You're Destroying Your Bones Without Knowing It, Here's the Fix | Mind Pump 2844

April 25, 2026 1h 47m
Summary published by 1% Better, updated May 18, 2026.
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Key Takeaway

Strength training once or twice a week, combined with adequate protein and calories, can reverse bone density loss—even in older adults. In one study, 65-year-old women who strength trained gained 3% bone density in 8 months, while inactive women lost 1.2%. This isn't about intense workouts—basic exercises like sit-to-stand movements and light dumbbell work can be life-changing. The key: pair resistance training with proper nutrition, especially if you've been chronically under-eating.
Episode Overview

This episode explores the powerful connection between strength training and bone density, revealing how simple resistance exercises can reverse osteoporosis and prevent age-related bone loss. The hosts discuss clinical studies showing dramatic improvements in bone health from minimal training, share inspiring client transformations, and emphasize the critical importance of adequate nutrition alongside exercise.
Main Insights

Bone Density Loss Is Reversible Through Strength Training

Women lose 30-50% of bone density over their lifetime, while men lose 20-30%. However, an 8-month study of 65-year-old women showed that those who strength trained gained 3% bone density while inactive women lost 1.2%. The reversal happened with basic exercises performed just once a week, proving that strength training is the direct antidote to bone density loss.
Nutrition Is Essential—Exercise Alone Isn't Enough

Many people, especially women who have yo-yo dieted, strength train consistently but still have poor bone density due to chronic under-eating. Building bone requires the same protocol as building muscle: adequate calories, high protein intake, and proper recovery. You cannot starve yourself into strong bones, regardless of how much you lift.
Strength Training Prevents Falls and Extends Healthspan

Falls in older adults are less about vestibular balance issues and more about weakness. When older people fall, they often can't catch themselves because they lack the strength to move quickly enough. One day per week of proper strength training can be miraculous; two days per week is optimal. This minimal investment dramatically reduces fall risk and maintains independence.
Hormone Replacement Shows Modest Benefits Compared to Lifting

While hormone replacement therapy for menopausal women does improve bone density, the effect is modest compared to strength training. Women going through menopause who lift weights and consume adequate protein can achieve significant bone density improvements even without ideal hormone profiles, making resistance training the most effective intervention.
Notable Quotes

"If bone density loss is poison, the direct antidote is lifting weights."

Sal Di Stefano
"Not only did it stop the 1% loss, this is only eight months you guys... They lost 1%. Not only did it stop it, it went in the opposite direction. They gained 3%."

Sal Di Stefano
"I reached up with my arm and I was able to close it."

Client (quoted by Sal)
"If you build muscle, you're going to improve bone density."

Sal Di Stefano
Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.
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Start Strength Training 1-2 Days Per Week
Begin with basic exercises appropriate for your fitness level—even simple movements like sit-to-stand from a bench, holding light dumbbells overhead, or bodyweight squats. Focus on progressive overload over time. One day per week shows miraculous results; two days is optimal for bone density improvement.
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Increase Your Protein and Calorie Intake
If you've been chronically under-eating (especially women eating around 1,400 calories daily), gradually increase your intake to at least 2,000 calories with emphasis on protein. Your body needs adequate nutrition to build both muscle and bone. Track your food for a week to understand your current baseline.
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Get a Baseline Bone Density Test
If you're over 50 or concerned about bone health, get a DEXA scan to establish your baseline bone density. Retest after 6-12 months of consistent strength training and proper nutrition to track your improvement. This provides concrete evidence of your progress beyond just feeling stronger.
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Focus on Full-Body Movements
Unlike running (which only improves lower body bone density modestly), strength training builds bone density throughout your entire body—spine, upper body, and lower body. Incorporate exercises that load your skeleton in multiple planes of movement for comprehensive bone health.
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On average throughout your life, ladies, On average throughout your life, ladies, you're going to lose between 30 to 50% you're going to lose between 30 to 50% you're going to lose between 30 to 50% of your bone density. And fellas, of your bone density. And fellas, of your bone density. And fellas, between 20 to 30% of your bone density. between 20 to 30% of your bone density. between 20 to 30% of your bone density. This is devastating. Here's the good This is devastating. Here's the good This is devastating. Here's the good news. There is a way to completely stop news. There is a way to completely stop news. There is a way to completely stop this process. In fact, many studies show this process. In fact, many studies show this process. In fact, many studies show reversal of bone density loss. We're reversal of bone density loss. We're reversal of bone density loss. We're going to talk about that right now. It's going to talk about that right now. It's going to talk about that right now. It's a simple formula. If you apply it, it a simple formula. If you apply it, it a simple formula. If you apply it, it will work. Let's go. This is uh will work. Let's go. This is uh will work. Let's go. This is uh &gt;&gt; whole lifetime. What's a &gt;&gt; whole lifetime. What's a &gt;&gt; whole lifetime. What's a &gt;&gt; whole lifetime? Now, now trip off this. &gt;&gt; whole lifetime? Now, now trip off this. &gt;&gt; whole lifetime? Now, now trip off this. For women, For women, For women, &gt;&gt; uh a woman can expect uh to lose about &gt;&gt; uh a woman can expect uh to lose about &gt;&gt; uh a woman can expect uh to lose about 20% of her bone density uh as she gets 20% of her bone density uh as she gets 20% of her bone density uh as she gets into menopause. It kicks up fast. into menopause. It kicks up fast. into menopause. It kicks up fast. Whereas for a man, it's a very slow Whereas for a man, it's a very slow Whereas for a man, it's a very slow process that speeds up towards the end. process that speeds up towards the end. process that speeds up towards the end. But this is a really big deal. This this But this is a really big deal. This this But this is a really big deal. This this is actually very strongly connected to is actually very strongly connected to is actually very strongly connected to uh mortality. uh mortality. uh mortality. &gt;&gt; Mhm. Um &gt;&gt; Mhm. Um &gt;&gt; Mhm. Um &gt;&gt; what's your what's your theory on the &gt;&gt; what's your what's your theory on the &gt;&gt; what's your what's your theory on the the menopause the menopause the menopause &gt;&gt; hormones? &gt;&gt; hormones? &gt;&gt; hormones? Yeah, the change in hormone uh levels um Yeah, the change in hormone uh levels um Yeah, the change in hormone uh levels um affects bone density for women. So affects bone density for women. So affects bone density for women. So hormones play a role, right? So if you hormones play a role, right? So if you hormones play a role, right? So if you put a woman on hormone replacement put a woman on hormone replacement put a woman on hormone replacement therapy, you tend to see an improvement therapy, you tend to see an improvement therapy, you tend to see an improvement in bone density. Not a huge improvement, in bone density. Not a huge improvement, in bone density. Not a huge improvement, but you'll see an improvement. But there but you'll see an improvement. But there but you'll see an improvement. But there is something that makes a huge is something that makes a huge is something that makes a huge improvement. improvement. improvement. &gt;&gt; Well, yeah, I know. That's why I was my &gt;&gt; Well, yeah, I know. That's why I was my &gt;&gt; Well, yeah, I know. That's why I was my follow-up question that is it'd be follow-up question that is it'd be follow-up question that is it'd be interesting to if you compared that uh interesting to if you compared that uh interesting to if you compared that uh to somebody who just simply lifted to somebody who just simply lifted to somebody who just simply lifted weights and hit protein um still weights and hit protein um still weights and hit protein um still hormonally all over the place going hormonally all over the place going hormonally all over the place going through and I would imagine that even through and I would imagine that even through and I would imagine that even even not with ideal hormone profile but even not with ideal hormone profile but even not with ideal hormone profile but lifting weights and hitting protein lifting weights and hitting protein lifting weights and hitting protein intake I would bet would still intake I would bet would still intake I would bet would still &gt;&gt; do fairly well &gt;&gt; do fairly well &gt;&gt; do fairly well &gt;&gt; very well. So I I got a study here. I &gt;&gt; very well. So I I got a study here. I &gt;&gt; very well. So I I got a study here. I pulled up a bunch of studies on how pulled up a bunch of studies on how pulled up a bunch of studies on how effective strength training is for bone effective strength training is for bone effective strength training is for bone density because there is nothing more density because there is nothing more density because there is nothing more effective. So uh movement exercise in effective. So uh movement exercise in effective. So uh movement exercise in general uh has a positive effect general uh has a positive effect general uh has a positive effect &gt;&gt; but it's modest uh at best. Um in fact &gt;&gt; but it's modest uh at best. Um in fact &gt;&gt; but it's modest uh at best. Um in fact in some cases like they'll use running in some cases like they'll use running in some cases like they'll use running as an example and you'll see a little as an example and you'll see a little as an example and you'll see a little bit of an improvement in the lower body bit of an improvement in the lower body bit of an improvement in the lower body but none in the upper body. So bone but none in the upper body. So bone but none in the upper body. So bone density loss continues to happen in the density loss continues to happen in the density loss continues to happen in the spine, upper body. Strength training is spine, upper body. Strength training is spine, upper body. Strength training is like the is the antidote antidote. So if like the is the antidote antidote. So if like the is the antidote antidote. So if bone density loss is poison, the direct bone density loss is poison, the direct bone density loss is poison, the direct antidote is lifting weights. antidote is lifting weights. antidote is lifting weights. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Or strength training. And so they did a &gt;&gt; Or strength training. And so they did a &gt;&gt; Or strength training. And so they did a study for eight months. This is one study for eight months. This is one study for eight months. This is one study. There's lots of studies, but this study. There's lots of studies, but this study. There's lots of studies, but this is a randomized control trial with women is a randomized control trial with women is a randomized control trial with women who were who were around 65 years old. who were who were around 65 years old. who were who were around 65 years old. &gt;&gt; Okay? So these women were already &gt;&gt; Okay? So these women were already &gt;&gt; Okay? So these women were already already 65 years old. Here's what they already 65 years old. Here's what they already 65 years old. Here's what they found in eight months. The women who did found in eight months. The women who did found in eight months. The women who did nothing saw their bone density go down nothing saw their bone density go down nothing saw their bone density go down in their lumbar spine by 1.2%. So in 8 in their lumbar spine by 1.2%. So in 8 in their lumbar spine by 1.2%. So in 8 months they were they already lost 1.2%. months they were they already lost 1.2%. months they were they already lost 1.2%. The ones that strength trained The ones that strength trained The ones that strength trained &gt;&gt; saw an increase of 3%. &gt;&gt; saw an increase of 3%. &gt;&gt; saw an increase of 3%. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; So not only did it stop &gt;&gt; So not only did it stop &gt;&gt; So not only did it stop &gt;&gt; more than 180 &gt;&gt; more than 180 &gt;&gt; more than 180 &gt;&gt; not only did it stop the 1% loss, this &gt;&gt; not only did it stop the 1% loss, this &gt;&gt; not only did it stop the 1% loss, this is only eight months you guys. This is is only eight months you guys. This is is only eight months you guys. This is not we're talking about, you know, 5 not we're talking about, you know, 5 not we're talking about, you know, 5 years, 10 years. This eight months they years, 10 years. This eight months they years, 10 years. This eight months they lost 1%. Not only did it stop it, it lost 1%. Not only did it stop it, it lost 1%. Not only did it stop it, it went in the opposite direction. They went in the opposite direction. They went in the opposite direction. They gained 3%. gained 3%. gained 3%. &gt;&gt; Hormones were shifting. Do they test &gt;&gt; Hormones were shifting. Do they test &gt;&gt; Hormones were shifting. Do they test their sleep and all that as well? And their sleep and all that as well? And their sleep and all that as well? And &gt;&gt; yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know. I &gt;&gt; yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know. I &gt;&gt; yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know. I haven't seen anything connected to that. haven't seen anything connected to that. haven't seen anything connected to that. But this study was were women with no no But this study was were women with no no But this study was were women with no no hormone intervention. I was going to say hormone intervention. I was going to say hormone intervention. I was going to say they didn't do anything with this is they didn't do anything with this is they didn't do anything with this is just a testament to what that does by just a testament to what that does by just a testament to what that does by itself, itself, itself, &gt;&gt; just lifting weight. I mean, this is &gt;&gt; just lifting weight. I mean, this is &gt;&gt; just lifting weight. I mean, this is also uh also uh also uh &gt;&gt; is what you've talked about. You tell &gt;&gt; is what you've talked about. You tell &gt;&gt; is what you've talked about. You tell the story many times uh about the the the story many times uh about the the the story many times uh about the the lady that you reversed osteoporosis lady that you reversed osteoporosis lady that you reversed osteoporosis with, right? with, right? with, right? &gt;&gt; Yes. I've had several I've had several &gt;&gt; Yes. I've had several I've had several &gt;&gt; Yes. I've had several I've had several clients that um I worked with. clients that um I worked with. clients that um I worked with. &gt;&gt; So much of the doctors were like, &gt;&gt; So much of the doctors were like, &gt;&gt; So much of the doctors were like, &gt;&gt; "Yes, &gt;&gt; "Yes, &gt;&gt; "Yes, &gt;&gt; oh my god, how is this possible?" &gt;&gt; oh my god, how is this possible?" &gt;&gt; oh my god, how is this possible?" &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I've had I've had several &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I've had I've had several &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I've had I've had several clients that um I've worked with uh was clients that um I've worked with uh was clients that um I've worked with uh was blessed to work to work with because blessed to work to work with because blessed to work to work with because they were referred to me by doctors and they were referred to me by doctors and they were referred to me by doctors and they were all um osteopenia and they were all um osteopenia and they were all um osteopenia and osteoporosis, the ones I'm referring to. osteoporosis, the ones I'm referring to. osteoporosis, the ones I'm referring to. And so, they were being tracked through And so, they were being tracked through And so, they were being tracked through this process, this process, this process, &gt;&gt; right? Imagine being the doctor who just &gt;&gt; right? Imagine being the doctor who just &gt;&gt; right? Imagine being the doctor who just did tracked saw that we lost 1% in the did tracked saw that we lost 1% in the did tracked saw that we lost 1% in the last 8 months or whatever like that and last 8 months or whatever like that and last 8 months or whatever like that and then all of a sudden their next checkup then all of a sudden their next checkup then all of a sudden their next checkup 6 months later. 6 months later. 6 months later. &gt;&gt; So one of them was active. She walked &gt;&gt; So one of them was active. She walked &gt;&gt; So one of them was active. She walked all the time. She hiked all the time. all the time. She hiked all the time. all the time. She hiked all the time. She didn't do any strength training. Um She didn't do any strength training. Um She didn't do any strength training. Um she ate a healthy diet. Her bone density she ate a healthy diet. Her bone density she ate a healthy diet. Her bone density loss was accelerating. And the doctor loss was accelerating. And the doctor loss was accelerating. And the doctor was like this is not like we got to do was like this is not like we got to do was like this is not like we got to do something about this. And they they put something about this. And they they put something about this. And they they put they put her on these really powerful they put her on these really powerful they put her on these really powerful drugs. I think Fosamax might be the the drugs. I think Fosamax might be the the drugs. I think Fosamax might be the the name of it. Maybe Doug, you could look name of it. Maybe Doug, you could look name of it. Maybe Doug, you could look it up. Uh, look up Fosamax. I think that it up. Uh, look up Fosamax. I think that it up. Uh, look up Fosamax. I think that was the one. I remember it was like a was the one. I remember it was like a was the one. I remember it was like a infrequent shot she would take that infrequent shot she would take that infrequent shot she would take that would knock her out for like a couple would knock her out for like a couple would knock her out for like a couple days. Like she felt like garbage after days. Like she felt like garbage after days. Like she felt like garbage after taking it. It was like an immune an taking it. It was like an immune an taking it. It was like an immune an immune drug. Um, and it just wasn't Is immune drug. Um, and it just wasn't Is immune drug. Um, and it just wasn't Is that it right there? that it right there? that it right there? &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; How was that used? I'm trying to I'm &gt;&gt; How was that used? I'm trying to I'm &gt;&gt; How was that used? I'm trying to I'm trying to think of uh is it a shot or is trying to think of uh is it a shot or is trying to think of uh is it a shot or is it like once a in a while? It might have it like once a in a while? It might have it like once a in a while? It might have been something else. I'm not sure, but I been something else. I'm not sure, but I been something else. I'm not sure, but I remember it made her feel like garbage. remember it made her feel like garbage. remember it made her feel like garbage. &gt;&gt; Yeah. um afterwards. &gt;&gt; Yeah. um afterwards. &gt;&gt; Yeah. um afterwards. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Includes heartburn, nausea, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Includes heartburn, nausea, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Includes heartburn, nausea, constipation. constipation. constipation. It might have been something else It might have been something else It might have been something else though. There was something strong. It though. There was something strong. It though. There was something strong. It was really strong. I don't I don't I was really strong. I don't I don't I was really strong. I don't I don't I don't know if it was Fosmax or something don't know if it was Fosmax or something don't know if it was Fosmax or something worse. But anyway, I can't remember. I worse. But anyway, I can't remember. I worse. But anyway, I can't remember. I wish I I wish I could, but anyhow, wish I I wish I could, but anyhow, wish I I wish I could, but anyhow, &gt;&gt; it her her bone loss uh was so was so &gt;&gt; it her her bone loss uh was so was so &gt;&gt; it her her bone loss uh was so was so fast that it was like um I mean it was fast that it was like um I mean it was fast that it was like um I mean it was scary. scary. scary. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like for her, she was like, I'm going to &gt;&gt; Like for her, she was like, I'm going to &gt;&gt; Like for her, she was like, I'm going to break if I can't figure this out. break if I can't figure this out. break if I can't figure this out. &gt;&gt; So, we started strength training once a &gt;&gt; So, we started strength training once a &gt;&gt; So, we started strength training once a week. I mean, that was it. She was a week. I mean, that was it. She was a week. I mean, that was it. She was a professor. wonderful woman and we just professor. wonderful woman and we just professor. wonderful woman and we just lifted weights once a week and it looked lifted weights once a week and it looked lifted weights once a week and it looked like this. Okay. Like three exercises. like this. Okay. Like three exercises. like this. Okay. Like three exercises. Yeah. Like and it started like this. Sit Yeah. Like and it started like this. Sit Yeah. Like and it started like this. Sit down, stand up off a bench. Uh you know, down, stand up off a bench. Uh you know, down, stand up off a bench. Uh you know, uh hold these 2 lb dumbbells straight up uh hold these 2 lb dumbbells straight up uh hold these 2 lb dumbbells straight up above your head and try to work on above your head and try to work on above your head and try to work on stability. Like it started super stability. Like it started super stability. Like it started super appropriate for her fitness and her and appropriate for her fitness and her and appropriate for her fitness and her and then we would slowly progress it, you then we would slowly progress it, you then we would slowly progress it, you know, over time. And when she went to know, over time. And when she went to know, over time. And when she went to get her bone density test, and it wasn't get her bone density test, and it wasn't get her bone density test, and it wasn't that much later after we started. It was that much later after we started. It was that much later after we started. It was like six months or something like that. like six months or something like that. like six months or something like that. The doctor is like, "We got to redo the The doctor is like, "We got to redo the The doctor is like, "We got to redo the test. This doesn't make any sense." Like test. This doesn't make any sense." Like test. This doesn't make any sense." Like your bone density didn't just slow down. your bone density didn't just slow down. your bone density didn't just slow down. It went up. It went up. It went up. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And he's like, "This must be wrong. &gt;&gt; And he's like, "This must be wrong. &gt;&gt; And he's like, "This must be wrong. Let's do another one." He did another Let's do another one." He did another Let's do another one." He did another one. It came back and he's like, "This one. It came back and he's like, "This one. It came back and he's like, "This is crazy. What are you doing?" And she's is crazy. What are you doing?" And she's is crazy. What are you doing?" And she's like, "Well, I'm I'm strength training." like, "Well, I'm I'm strength training." like, "Well, I'm I'm strength training." And I also worked on her diet, which And I also worked on her diet, which And I also worked on her diet, which we'll talk about. we'll talk about. we'll talk about. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, we always talk about muscles &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, we always talk about muscles &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, we always talk about muscles growing and tissue growing, but we don't growing and tissue growing, but we don't growing and tissue growing, but we don't really talk about bone growing as a really talk about bone growing as a really talk about bone growing as a result of that as well. It's the same result of that as well. It's the same result of that as well. It's the same process. It's process. It's process. It's &gt;&gt; I'm trying to remember if it's Dr. Andre &gt;&gt; I'm trying to remember if it's Dr. Andre &gt;&gt; I'm trying to remember if it's Dr. Andre Spina, he talked about like force being Spina, he talked about like force being Spina, he talked about like force being the communication of cells, the communication of cells, the communication of cells, &gt;&gt; that being the direct sort of impact uh &gt;&gt; that being the direct sort of impact uh &gt;&gt; that being the direct sort of impact uh based upon what we're communicating to based upon what we're communicating to based upon what we're communicating to either grow or not grow. either grow or not grow. either grow or not grow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, totally. Okay. That's I think &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, totally. Okay. That's I think &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, totally. Okay. That's I think that was a medication there, Doug. that was a medication there, Doug. that was a medication there, Doug. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Prolia, I believe it's called. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Prolia, I believe it's called. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Prolia, I believe it's called. &gt;&gt; What is it? &gt;&gt; What is it? &gt;&gt; What is it? &gt;&gt; Prolia. Prolia and yeah, that was like a &gt;&gt; Prolia. Prolia and yeah, that was like a &gt;&gt; Prolia. Prolia and yeah, that was like a once uh once uh once uh &gt;&gt; every six months or so. &gt;&gt; every six months or so. &gt;&gt; every six months or so. &gt;&gt; That's it. That's the one. &gt;&gt; That's it. That's the one. &gt;&gt; That's it. That's the one. &gt;&gt; And she would feel horrible. Look at the &gt;&gt; And she would feel horrible. Look at the &gt;&gt; And she would feel horrible. Look at the side effects. Yeah, the side effects. side effects. Yeah, the side effects. side effects. Yeah, the side effects. Back pain, bone pain, pain in the Back pain, bone pain, pain in the Back pain, bone pain, pain in the extremities. extremities. extremities. &gt;&gt; Um that was the one right there. So &gt;&gt; Um that was the one right there. So &gt;&gt; Um that was the one right there. So anyway, her the the improvement was so anyway, her the the improvement was so anyway, her the the improvement was so good that and then the doctor's like, good that and then the doctor's like, good that and then the doctor's like, "Oh, you're strength training. You must "Oh, you're strength training. You must "Oh, you're strength training. You must be like lifting weights all the time." be like lifting weights all the time." be like lifting weights all the time." She's like, "I go once a week. Sometimes She's like, "I go once a week. Sometimes She's like, "I go once a week. Sometimes I miss." I miss." I miss." &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So he gets on the phone with me and he's &gt;&gt; So he gets on the phone with me and he's &gt;&gt; So he gets on the phone with me and he's like, "Can I make I want to make this a like, "Can I make I want to make this a like, "Can I make I want to make this a case study because this is crazy to me." case study because this is crazy to me." case study because this is crazy to me." That's how effective strength training That's how effective strength training That's how effective strength training is. And that's by the way, it's is. And that's by the way, it's is. And that's by the way, it's consistent. So anybody listening right consistent. So anybody listening right consistent. So anybody listening right now now now &gt;&gt; who wants strong bones, &gt;&gt; who wants strong bones, &gt;&gt; who wants strong bones, &gt;&gt; the prescription of strength training &gt;&gt; the prescription of strength training &gt;&gt; the prescription of strength training properly properly properly &gt;&gt; and eating adequate and eating adequate &gt;&gt; and eating adequate and eating adequate &gt;&gt; and eating adequate and eating adequate nutrition. Yeah, nutrition. Yeah, nutrition. Yeah, &gt;&gt; okay. You got to do that &gt;&gt; okay. You got to do that &gt;&gt; okay. You got to do that &gt;&gt; is guaranteed to work. &gt;&gt; is guaranteed to work. &gt;&gt; is guaranteed to work. &gt;&gt; I that last bit I think you have to to &gt;&gt; I that last bit I think you have to to &gt;&gt; I that last bit I think you have to to reiterate because it I've seen cases reiterate because it I've seen cases reiterate because it I've seen cases with young women with young women with young women &gt;&gt; who strength train. &gt;&gt; who strength train. &gt;&gt; who strength train. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. consistently, &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. consistently, &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. consistently, &gt;&gt; but chronically under &gt;&gt; but chronically under &gt;&gt; but chronically under &gt;&gt; chronically undereat and bone density is &gt;&gt; chronically undereat and bone density is &gt;&gt; chronically undereat and bone density is really low. really low. really low. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; And so it's it's not just strength. In &gt;&gt; And so it's it's not just strength. In &gt;&gt; And so it's it's not just strength. In fact, it's the appropriate amount of fact, it's the appropriate amount of fact, it's the appropriate amount of strength training paired with strength training paired with strength training paired with &gt;&gt; you got to you got to give your body &gt;&gt; you got to you got to give your body &gt;&gt; you got to you got to give your body nutrients to build. nutrients to build. nutrients to build. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; It's which I think &gt;&gt; It's which I think &gt;&gt; It's which I think &gt;&gt; you could starve yourself into &gt;&gt; you could starve yourself into &gt;&gt; you could starve yourself into osteoporosis no matter what. osteoporosis no matter what. osteoporosis no matter what. &gt;&gt; Which this is both men and women, but I &gt;&gt; Which this is both men and women, but I &gt;&gt; Which this is both men and women, but I find this more common with my female find this more common with my female find this more common with my female clients. clients. clients. &gt;&gt; Yes. cuz I've I've actually worked with &gt;&gt; Yes. cuz I've I've actually worked with &gt;&gt; Yes. cuz I've I've actually worked with women like this where they were in their women like this where they were in their women like this where they were in their 60s and they worked out, bone density 60s and they worked out, bone density 60s and they worked out, bone density wasn't good, lifting weights, uh, and wasn't good, lifting weights, uh, and wasn't good, lifting weights, uh, and they're like, "Why is this happening?" they're like, "Why is this happening?" they're like, "Why is this happening?" But they were skinny and they their But they were skinny and they their But they were skinny and they their whole life whole life whole life &gt;&gt; supplementing with like calcium, but &gt;&gt; supplementing with like calcium, but &gt;&gt; supplementing with like calcium, but yeah. Their their calories are still yeah. Their their calories are still yeah. Their their calories are still super low. super low. super low. &gt;&gt; Yeah. This woman, there's one I can &gt;&gt; Yeah. This woman, there's one I can &gt;&gt; Yeah. This woman, there's one I can think of right now that I was just think of right now that I was just think of right now that I was just recently talking to and she's just she's recently talking to and she's just she's recently talking to and she's just she's one of those women that's always been one of those women that's always been one of those women that's always been afraid of eating too much. afraid of eating too much. afraid of eating too much. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; She's always dieted. Yeah. And I'm like, &gt;&gt; She's always dieted. Yeah. And I'm like, &gt;&gt; She's always dieted. Yeah. And I'm like, "Listen, you're doing everything right, "Listen, you're doing everything right, "Listen, you're doing everything right, but you're just not eating." She was I but you're just not eating." She was I but you're just not eating." She was I think she was eating like 1,400 calories think she was eating like 1,400 calories think she was eating like 1,400 calories a day. Yep. a day. Yep. a day. Yep. &gt;&gt; I'm like, you got to get it to like &gt;&gt; I'm like, you got to get it to like &gt;&gt; I'm like, you got to get it to like 2,000 different and then watch what 2,000 different and then watch what 2,000 different and then watch what happens. happens. happens. &gt;&gt; If you the things that that you do to &gt;&gt; If you the things that that you do to &gt;&gt; If you the things that that you do to build muscle or the protocol that builds build muscle or the protocol that builds build muscle or the protocol that builds muscle is the same protocol that builds muscle is the same protocol that builds muscle is the same protocol that builds bone. bone. bone. &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; like think of it that way. So if you're &gt;&gt; like think of it that way. So if you're &gt;&gt; like think of it that way. So if you're like I want to strengthen my bones, like I want to strengthen my bones, like I want to strengthen my bones, strengthen your muscles. How do I strengthen your muscles. How do I strengthen your muscles. How do I strengthen my muscles? High protein, strengthen my muscles? High protein, strengthen my muscles? High protein, adequate calories, don't undereat, adequate calories, don't undereat, adequate calories, don't undereat, &gt;&gt; lift weights. Yep. And then watch uh &gt;&gt; lift weights. Yep. And then watch uh &gt;&gt; lift weights. Yep. And then watch uh what happens. But this is it's it's so what happens. But this is it's it's so what happens. 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Is there any like stats or data in terms Is there any like stats or data in terms of like women um approaching of like women um approaching of like women um approaching parameopause and menopause like earlier parameopause and menopause like earlier parameopause and menopause like earlier than you know past like it just thinking than you know past like it just thinking than you know past like it just thinking in terms of like um you know how um uh in terms of like um you know how um uh in terms of like um you know how um uh like in terms of them like you know like in terms of them like you know like in terms of them like you know getting their period earlier and like getting their period earlier and like getting their period earlier and like the environment and stress and like I've the environment and stress and like I've the environment and stress and like I've just I've seen some some stats like some just I've seen some some stats like some just I've seen some some stats like some kind of stats where they're talking kind of stats where they're talking kind of stats where they're talking about like that's happening a bit about like that's happening a bit about like that's happening a bit earlier. earlier. earlier. &gt;&gt; So there's two things you're asking. So &gt;&gt; So there's two things you're asking. So &gt;&gt; So there's two things you're asking. So one, yes, um girls are getting their one, yes, um girls are getting their one, yes, um girls are getting their periods earlier than in the past. Part periods earlier than in the past. Part periods earlier than in the past. Part of it is uh that we're overeating. of it is uh that we're overeating. of it is uh that we're overeating. So um that's part of it. Um the other So um that's part of it. Um the other So um that's part of it. Um the other part of it, u is um father not being in part of it, u is um father not being in part of it, u is um father not being in the home. There seems to be a the home. There seems to be a the home. There seems to be a correlation with not having a male correlation with not having a male correlation with not having a male presence. presence. presence. &gt;&gt; Interesting. Really? Yeah. Well, there's &gt;&gt; Interesting. Really? Yeah. Well, there's &gt;&gt; Interesting. Really? Yeah. Well, there's an evolutionary explanation. I don't an evolutionary explanation. I don't an evolutionary explanation. I don't know if this is right but it's like know if this is right but it's like know if this is right but it's like uh you you are going to you uh get uh you you are going to you uh get uh you you are going to you uh get pregnant earlier so that you and you pregnant earlier so that you and you pregnant earlier so that you and you have these um you become sexual earlier have these um you become sexual earlier have these um you become sexual earlier because that's how you can maybe get because that's how you can maybe get because that's how you can maybe get procure some safety. Um, that's the procure some safety. Um, that's the procure some safety. Um, that's the evolutionary possible explanation, but evolutionary possible explanation, but evolutionary possible explanation, but there's a connection there. But it's there's a connection there. But it's there's a connection there. But it's some of it's diet, like they're some of it's diet, like they're some of it's diet, like they're overeating. And then early early overeating. And then early early overeating. And then early early menopause or parameopause is almost menopause or parameopause is almost menopause or parameopause is almost always connected to um uh poor like not always connected to um uh poor like not always connected to um uh poor like not eating enough and overstressed. eating enough and overstressed. eating enough and overstressed. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; So you'll see this like like women who &gt;&gt; So you'll see this like like women who &gt;&gt; So you'll see this like like women who overtrain or who work crazy jobs or who overtrain or who work crazy jobs or who overtrain or who work crazy jobs or who have like high stress life um plus have like high stress life um plus have like high stress life um plus undereating, poor sleep, and then you'll undereating, poor sleep, and then you'll undereating, poor sleep, and then you'll see the hormones fall off. I've just see the hormones fall off. I've just see the hormones fall off. I've just I've seen a trend of earlier like like I've seen a trend of earlier like like I've seen a trend of earlier like like 30s, you know, like like a lot earlier 30s, you know, like like a lot earlier 30s, you know, like like a lot earlier than I would have thought. Like it's the than I would have thought. Like it's the than I would have thought. Like it's the onset of it already. Is it possible to onset of it already. Is it possible to onset of it already. Is it possible to build muscle and not improve bone build muscle and not improve bone build muscle and not improve bone density? density? density? &gt;&gt; Uh &gt;&gt; Uh &gt;&gt; Uh you if real actual tensile like like you if real actual tensile like like you if real actual tensile like like muscle fiber, no, I think they're muscle fiber, no, I think they're muscle fiber, no, I think they're directly connected, directly connected, directly connected, &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; If there's more tension on the brain, &gt;&gt; If there's more tension on the brain, &gt;&gt; If there's more tension on the brain, &gt;&gt; right? If you build if you build muscle, &gt;&gt; right? If you build if you build muscle, &gt;&gt; right? If you build if you build muscle, you're going to improve bone you're going to improve bone you're going to improve bone &gt;&gt; density. I guess possible if we with &gt;&gt; density. I guess possible if we with &gt;&gt; density. I guess possible if we with maybe myostatin drugs where the muscle maybe myostatin drugs where the muscle maybe myostatin drugs where the muscle just grows, but I don't I don't know. just grows, but I don't I don't know. just grows, but I don't I don't know. &gt;&gt; That'd be problematic though, right? &gt;&gt; That'd be problematic though, right? &gt;&gt; That'd be problematic though, right? Like Like Like &gt;&gt; No, I don't think so. &gt;&gt; No, I don't think so. &gt;&gt; No, I don't think so. &gt;&gt; Imagine. The reason why I say that is &gt;&gt; Imagine. The reason why I say that is &gt;&gt; Imagine. The reason why I say that is because that's an easier thing for because that's an easier thing for because that's an easier thing for people to potentially focus on. people to potentially focus on. people to potentially focus on. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Right. Like uh &gt;&gt; Right. Like uh &gt;&gt; Right. Like uh &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Because you could you could &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Because you could you could &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Because you could you could lift weights and see that you're lift weights and see that you're lift weights and see that you're stronger. stronger. stronger. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's something that Exactly. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's something that Exactly. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's something that Exactly. They're getting like real-time feedback, They're getting like real-time feedback, They're getting like real-time feedback, you know? It's not you don't have to go you know? It's not you don't have to go you know? It's not you don't have to go to the doctor and get a you know, or go to the doctor and get a you know, or go to the doctor and get a you know, or go Yeah. Get a bone density test every Yeah. Get a bone density test every Yeah. Get a bone density test every three to six months just so you can find three to six months just so you can find three to six months just so you can find out, am I doing the right things? It's out, am I doing the right things? It's out, am I doing the right things? It's like if you are feeding your body like if you are feeding your body like if you are feeding your body properly, getting stronger in your properly, getting stronger in your properly, getting stronger in your workouts, you're more than likely going workouts, you're more than likely going workouts, you're more than likely going to be improving bone density. to be improving bone density. to be improving bone density. &gt;&gt; Yes. And you know the thing about this &gt;&gt; Yes. And you know the thing about this &gt;&gt; Yes. And you know the thing about this too is like when you look at causes of too is like when you look at causes of too is like when you look at causes of death, um like the major causes are you death, um like the major causes are you death, um like the major causes are you know heart disease and cancer, right? Um know heart disease and cancer, right? Um know heart disease and cancer, right? Um diabetes is up there because it leads to diabetes is up there because it leads to diabetes is up there because it leads to it can lead to both. But what we don't it can lead to both. But what we don't it can lead to both. But what we don't see are falls and breaks and injuries see are falls and breaks and injuries see are falls and breaks and injuries that then lead to those things. So that then lead to those things. So that then lead to those things. So there's a saying in medicine uh I there's a saying in medicine uh I there's a saying in medicine uh I remember I trained a lot of doctors and remember I trained a lot of doctors and remember I trained a lot of doctors and they said you know hip and they said you know hip and they said you know hip and &gt;&gt; die of pneumonia &gt;&gt; die of pneumonia &gt;&gt; die of pneumonia &gt;&gt; um you know if you break a bone and then &gt;&gt; um you know if you break a bone and then &gt;&gt; um you know if you break a bone and then you're incapacitated for a while uh and you're incapacitated for a while uh and you're incapacitated for a while uh and you're in your 70s your health uh it you're in your 70s your health uh it you're in your 70s your health uh it goes down a hill fast like very quickly goes down a hill fast like very quickly goes down a hill fast like very quickly and you see this uh this is it's well and you see this uh this is it's well and you see this uh this is it's well it's well observed well documented um so it's well observed well documented um so it's well observed well documented um so the last thing you want to do is fall the last thing you want to do is fall the last thing you want to do is fall down and break something and by the down and break something and by the down and break something and by the falling down and losing your balance is falling down and losing your balance is falling down and losing your balance is is less about your vestibular system. is less about your vestibular system. is less about your vestibular system. Like it's less about the the balance of Like it's less about the the balance of Like it's less about the the balance of the vestibular system and more about the vestibular system and more about the vestibular system and more about weakness. This is why people fall. So weakness. This is why people fall. So weakness. This is why people fall. So yes, you can also lose your balance yes, you can also lose your balance yes, you can also lose your balance because of vertigo or you know their because of vertigo or you know their because of vertigo or you know their vestibular system being a bit off. vestibular system being a bit off. vestibular system being a bit off. That's that that can definitely happen. That's that that can definitely happen. That's that that can definitely happen. But more often than not when people fall But more often than not when people fall But more often than not when people fall as they age, it's because they're weak. as they age, it's because they're weak. as they age, it's because they're weak. And weakness leads to instability and And weakness leads to instability and And weakness leads to instability and loss of balance. And so when you see loss of balance. And so when you see loss of balance. And so when you see someone who's older fall, it almost someone who's older fall, it almost someone who's older fall, it almost looks like they can't catch themselves looks like they can't catch themselves looks like they can't catch themselves and their body doesn't move fast enough and their body doesn't move fast enough and their body doesn't move fast enough and then they kind of tip over like a and then they kind of tip over like a and then they kind of tip over like a tree tree tree &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; and hit the ground. Um and that's just &gt;&gt; and hit the ground. Um and that's just &gt;&gt; and hit the ground. Um and that's just they're just not they just don't have they're just not they just don't have they're just not they just don't have the strength. the strength. the strength. &gt;&gt; And so strength training is like &gt;&gt; And so strength training is like &gt;&gt; And so strength training is like imperative when you when you look at all imperative when you when you look at all imperative when you when you look at all the factors uh that affect us as we age. the factors uh that affect us as we age. the factors uh that affect us as we age. Um like one day a week of strength Um like one day a week of strength Um like one day a week of strength training. This is what this is the best training. This is what this is the best training. This is what this is the best part about it. One day a week of proper part about it. One day a week of proper part about it. One day a week of proper strength training, miraculous. Two days strength training, miraculous. Two days strength training, miraculous. Two days a week, perfect. You're done. a week, perfect. You're done. a week, perfect. You're done. &gt;&gt; Well, wasn't wasn't you brought up a &gt;&gt; Well, wasn't wasn't you brought up a &gt;&gt; Well, wasn't wasn't you brought up a study before it's like once every two study before it's like once every two study before it's like once every two weeks just to to not lose muscle to just weeks just to to not lose muscle to just weeks just to to not lose muscle to just not lose muscle? I mean, it's very not lose muscle? I mean, it's very not lose muscle? I mean, it's very minimal to that you have to do to minimal to that you have to do to minimal to that you have to do to actually see you positive improvement. I actually see you positive improvement. I actually see you positive improvement. I I I can't stress though enough the I I can't stress though enough the I I can't stress though enough the paired with the nutrition because I just paired with the nutrition because I just paired with the nutrition because I just think that a lot of people think that a lot of people think that a lot of people &gt;&gt; um &gt;&gt; um &gt;&gt; um &gt;&gt; gets overlooked a lot. Yeah. &gt;&gt; gets overlooked a lot. Yeah. &gt;&gt; gets overlooked a lot. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. especially with my female clients &gt;&gt; Yeah. especially with my female clients &gt;&gt; Yeah. especially with my female clients that have either yo-yo dieted their that have either yo-yo dieted their that have either yo-yo dieted their whole life or kept their calorie intake whole life or kept their calorie intake whole life or kept their calorie intake so lowfight gaining weight. And so, so lowfight gaining weight. And so, so lowfight gaining weight. And so, &gt;&gt; um, and and that's been the challenge &gt;&gt; um, and and that's been the challenge &gt;&gt; um, and and that's been the challenge that I had as a trainer was like getting that I had as a trainer was like getting that I had as a trainer was like getting those clients to increase calories in those clients to increase calories in those clients to increase calories in conjunction with lifting weights. It's conjunction with lifting weights. It's conjunction with lifting weights. It's like, okay, we're doing the right things like, okay, we're doing the right things like, okay, we're doing the right things inside the gym. I know we are cuz I'm inside the gym. I know we are cuz I'm inside the gym. I know we are cuz I'm training you, but I also need you to go training you, but I also need you to go training you, but I also need you to go and go after those calories, go after and go after those calories, go after and go after those calories, go after that protein intake to make sure that we that protein intake to make sure that we that protein intake to make sure that we go build. go build. go build. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And so, that that's so important to this &gt;&gt; And so, that that's so important to this &gt;&gt; And so, that that's so important to this this process. this process. this process. &gt;&gt; Totally. This is why one of the reasons &gt;&gt; Totally. This is why one of the reasons &gt;&gt; Totally. This is why one of the reasons why I used to love training um people why I used to love training um people why I used to love training um people and you we used to classify an advanced and you we used to classify an advanced and you we used to classify an advanced age. age. age. &gt;&gt; Uh one of the &gt;&gt; Uh one of the &gt;&gt; Uh one of the &gt;&gt; We don't classify that anymore cuz &gt;&gt; We don't classify that anymore cuz &gt;&gt; We don't classify that anymore cuz you're in there. you're in there. you're in there. &gt;&gt; What was that? &gt;&gt; What was that? &gt;&gt; What was that? &gt;&gt; Advanced age for trainers was what 55 &gt;&gt; Advanced age for trainers was what 55 &gt;&gt; Advanced age for trainers was what 55 and older, right? and older, right? and older, right? &gt;&gt; I think that's what the the training &gt;&gt; I think that's what the the training &gt;&gt; I think that's what the the training manuals would say. And Doug, you're manuals would say. And Doug, you're manuals would say. And Doug, you're advanced age. advanced age. advanced age. &gt;&gt; What's that? The cotton top era. &gt;&gt; What's that? The cotton top era. &gt;&gt; What's that? The cotton top era. &gt;&gt; That's what we call them. &gt;&gt; That's what we call them. &gt;&gt; That's what we call them. &gt;&gt; Silver sneakers. &gt;&gt; Silver sneakers. &gt;&gt; Silver sneakers. &gt;&gt; Yeah. There you go. All the people &gt;&gt; Yeah. There you go. All the people &gt;&gt; Yeah. There you go. All the people listening right now just pissed up all listening right now just pissed up all listening right now just pissed up all now. Um, the one of the reason why I now. Um, the one of the reason why I now. Um, the one of the reason why I like to train people in their late like to train people in their late like to train people in their late 60s,7s and up, uh, was be, you know, 60s,7s and up, uh, was be, you know, 60s,7s and up, uh, was be, you know, it's so rewarding as a trainer to work it's so rewarding as a trainer to work it's so rewarding as a trainer to work with a client and to see them, you know, with a client and to see them, you know, with a client and to see them, you know, lose weight, uh, become, uh, healthier, lose weight, uh, become, uh, healthier, lose weight, uh, become, uh, healthier, more fit, you know, they they they like more fit, you know, they they they like more fit, you know, they they they like the way they look, like, it's so the way they look, like, it's so the way they look, like, it's so rewarding to hear that. But when I would rewarding to hear that. But when I would rewarding to hear that. But when I would train people in their late 60s and 70s, train people in their late 60s and 70s, train people in their late 60s and 70s, um, the stuff they would come back with um, the stuff they would come back with um, the stuff they would come back with was so life-changing. It wasn't like, I was so life-changing. It wasn't like, I was so life-changing. It wasn't like, I lost 30 pounds. Like, that's that could lost 30 pounds. Like, that's that could lost 30 pounds. Like, that's that could be life-changing, too. But it was like I be life-changing, too. But it was like I be life-changing, too. But it was like I can go up the stairs. can go up the stairs. can go up the stairs. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's the abilities that they &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's the abilities that they &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's the abilities that they regain. It's it's so encouraging. Yeah. regain. It's it's so encouraging. Yeah. regain. It's it's so encouraging. Yeah. They I've had old clients like that They I've had old clients like that They I've had old clients like that where it's like, you know, now I can I where it's like, you know, now I can I where it's like, you know, now I can I can lift this and I can be independent can lift this and I can be independent can lift this and I can be independent and and go to the grocery store and you and and go to the grocery store and you and and go to the grocery store and you know, they can do all these things now know, they can do all these things now know, they can do all these things now like and they're self-sufficient. like and they're self-sufficient. like and they're self-sufficient. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I've told you guys a story &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I've told you guys a story &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I've told you guys a story before. I'll never forget it. It was before. I'll never forget it. It was before. I'll never forget it. It was like almost got me uh emotional. I had a like almost got me uh emotional. I had a like almost got me uh emotional. I had a a woman that I trained in her 80s and um a woman that I trained in her 80s and um a woman that I trained in her 80s and um she walks in and she was deconditioned she walks in and she was deconditioned she walks in and she was deconditioned when she hired me. Her daughter hired me when she hired me. Her daughter hired me when she hired me. Her daughter hired me to train and we'd been working together to train and we'd been working together to train and we'd been working together at this point for I don't remember how at this point for I don't remember how at this point for I don't remember how long, like a couple years. Very basic long, like a couple years. Very basic long, like a couple years. Very basic stuff, right? And again, late I think stuff, right? And again, late I think stuff, right? And again, late I think mid to late 80s mid to late 80s mid to late 80s &gt;&gt; and she walks into my studio and it &gt;&gt; and she walks into my studio and it &gt;&gt; and she walks into my studio and it wasn't a time that we were training and wasn't a time that we were training and wasn't a time that we were training and I'm like, "Uhoh, did I mess up on the I'm like, "Uhoh, did I mess up on the I'm like, "Uhoh, did I mess up on the schedule?" Whatever. I say, "Hey, what schedule?" Whatever. I say, "Hey, what schedule?" Whatever. I say, "Hey, what are you what are you doing here?" She's are you what are you doing here?" She's are you what are you doing here?" She's like, "Oh, I was grocery shopping next like, "Oh, I was grocery shopping next like, "Oh, I was grocery shopping next door door door &gt;&gt; and I had to come in and tell you &gt;&gt; and I had to come in and tell you &gt;&gt; and I had to come in and tell you something." I'm like, "What is it?" She something." I'm like, "What is it?" She something." I'm like, "What is it?" She goes, goes, goes, &gt;&gt; "I closed the trunk of my car for the by &gt;&gt; "I closed the trunk of my car for the by &gt;&gt; "I closed the trunk of my car for the by myself for the first time." She goes, "I myself for the first time." She goes, "I myself for the first time." She goes, "I always have to ask the bagger always have to ask the bagger always have to ask the bagger &gt;&gt; to load it and close it." She's like, &gt;&gt; to load it and close it." She's like, &gt;&gt; to load it and close it." She's like, "But I reached up with my arm "But I reached up with my arm "But I reached up with my arm &gt;&gt; and I was able to close it." And she &gt;&gt; and I was able to close it." And she &gt;&gt; and I was able to close it." And she came in to tell me that. Yeah. came in to tell me that. Yeah. came in to tell me that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; And I remember we're like, and I had &gt;&gt; And I remember we're like, and I had &gt;&gt; And I remember we're like, and I had other trainers in there. We all kind of, other trainers in there. We all kind of, other trainers in there. We all kind of, you know, applauded and everything. But, you know, applauded and everything. But, you know, applauded and everything. But, you know, it's like so incredibly you know, it's like so incredibly you know, it's like so incredibly &gt;&gt; what's the saying? You don't you don't &gt;&gt; what's the saying? You don't you don't &gt;&gt; what's the saying? You don't you don't realize how much you appreciate realize how much you appreciate realize how much you appreciate something till you don't have it. You something till you don't have it. You something till you don't have it. You know, it's like one of those simple know, it's like one of those simple know, it's like one of those simple things. in life that we all probably things. in life that we all probably things. in life that we all probably take for granted until you don't have it take for granted until you don't have it take for granted until you don't have it and you can't do it anymore. and you can't do it anymore. and you can't do it anymore. &gt;&gt; Totally. &gt;&gt; Totally. &gt;&gt; Totally. &gt;&gt; And so super rewarding when you give it &gt;&gt; And so super rewarding when you give it &gt;&gt; And so super rewarding when you give it back to a client, you know. back to a client, you know. back to a client, you know. &gt;&gt; All right, speaking of health, Doug, &gt;&gt; All right, speaking of health, Doug, &gt;&gt; All right, speaking of health, Doug, bring up that study from Dose. bring up that study from Dose. bring up that study from Dose. &gt;&gt; This is really cool. Um, &gt;&gt; This is really cool. Um, &gt;&gt; This is really cool. Um, &gt;&gt; what is it on? &gt;&gt; what is it on? &gt;&gt; what is it on? &gt;&gt; So, so Dose, it's one of the companies &gt;&gt; So, so Dose, it's one of the companies &gt;&gt; So, so Dose, it's one of the companies we work with. Um, they have two main we work with. Um, they have two main we work with. Um, they have two main products. One products. One products. One &gt;&gt; is for liver health and the other one is &gt;&gt; is for liver health and the other one is &gt;&gt; is for liver health and the other one is for cholesterol. for cholesterol. for cholesterol. And what they did, and this is what I And what they did, and this is what I And what they did, and this is what I like about Dose. So, a lot of supplement like about Dose. So, a lot of supplement like about Dose. So, a lot of supplement companies will sell products for companies will sell products for companies will sell products for particular things. Dose actually uh particular things. Dose actually uh particular things. Dose actually uh invested in a study, like a legit invested in a study, like a legit invested in a study, like a legit clinical study. So, it's like, does it clinical study. So, it's like, does it clinical study. So, it's like, does it actually work? Here's what they found in actually work? Here's what they found in actually work? Here's what they found in their 90-day clinical study. Uh, read their 90-day clinical study. Uh, read their 90-day clinical study. Uh, read those results for me. those results for me. those results for me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, LDL, 95% of participants had &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, LDL, 95% of participants had &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, LDL, 95% of participants had an improvement. Triglycerides, 90% an an improvement. Triglycerides, 90% an an improvement. Triglycerides, 90% an improvement. And total cholesterol, 81%. improvement. And total cholesterol, 81%. improvement. And total cholesterol, 81%. &gt;&gt; 3 months. &gt;&gt; 3 months. &gt;&gt; 3 months. &gt;&gt; Yeah. 3 months of &gt;&gt; Yeah. 3 months of &gt;&gt; Yeah. 3 months of &gt;&gt; just by supplementing that &gt;&gt; just by supplementing that &gt;&gt; just by supplementing that &gt;&gt; with dose. It's all natural. Read the &gt;&gt; with dose. It's all natural. Read the &gt;&gt; with dose. It's all natural. Read the ingredients, Doug. So, you know, people ingredients, Doug. So, you know, people ingredients, Doug. So, you know, people will will go on a statin. They're do, will will go on a statin. They're do, will will go on a statin. They're do, you know, with all kinds of side effects you know, with all kinds of side effects you know, with all kinds of side effects and stuff like that. This is a natural and stuff like that. This is a natural and stuff like that. This is a natural product. Uh what are those ingredients product. Uh what are those ingredients product. Uh what are those ingredients that I feel? that I feel? that I feel? &gt;&gt; So, yes, it's uh amla fruit extract, &gt;&gt; So, yes, it's uh amla fruit extract, &gt;&gt; So, yes, it's uh amla fruit extract, pomegranate fruit extract, organic pomegranate fruit extract, organic pomegranate fruit extract, organic ginger, organic turmeric, co-enzyme uh ginger, organic turmeric, co-enzyme uh ginger, organic turmeric, co-enzyme uh co-enzyme Q10, lycopine, black pepper co-enzyme Q10, lycopine, black pepper co-enzyme Q10, lycopine, black pepper extract. extract. extract. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, and you just take like a like &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, and you just take like a like &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, and you just take like a like a few ounces of it, a few ounces of it, a few ounces of it, &gt;&gt; 2 o 2 ounces of it every single day &gt;&gt; 2 o 2 ounces of it every single day &gt;&gt; 2 o 2 ounces of it every single day &gt;&gt; and uh the odds the high odds are you'll &gt;&gt; and uh the odds the high odds are you'll &gt;&gt; and uh the odds the high odds are you'll see an improvement. see an improvement. see an improvement. &gt;&gt; There's also nascin and folate &gt;&gt; There's also nascin and folate &gt;&gt; There's also nascin and folate &gt;&gt; in all of those in all those numbers. &gt;&gt; in all of those in all those numbers. &gt;&gt; in all of those in all those numbers. &gt;&gt; High 90%. &gt;&gt; High 90%. &gt;&gt; High 90%. &gt;&gt; Isn't that great? &gt;&gt; Isn't that great? &gt;&gt; Isn't that great? &gt;&gt; That's a huge &gt;&gt; That's a huge &gt;&gt; That's a huge &gt;&gt; I love it when companies put out studies &gt;&gt; I love it when companies put out studies &gt;&gt; I love it when companies put out studies uh because then you're like, "All right, uh because then you're like, "All right, uh because then you're like, "All right, is this going to work?" It's like, is this going to work?" It's like, is this going to work?" It's like, "Yeah, dude. Here, 90 days. Give it a "Yeah, dude. Here, 90 days. Give it a "Yeah, dude. Here, 90 days. Give it a shot. shot. shot. &gt;&gt; Go get your your blood test. Watch what &gt;&gt; Go get your your blood test. Watch what &gt;&gt; Go get your your blood test. Watch what happens." That's great. happens." That's great. happens." That's great. &gt;&gt; I always think it's so cool when we have &gt;&gt; I always think it's so cool when we have &gt;&gt; I always think it's so cool when we have we have I mean, those are all things we have I mean, those are all things we have I mean, those are all things found in nature. found in nature. found in nature. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's is that's what it's &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's is that's what it's &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's is that's what it's awesome. awesome. awesome. &gt;&gt; I know. It's just ideal. &gt;&gt; I know. It's just ideal. &gt;&gt; I know. It's just ideal. &gt;&gt; Well, I think too when it comes to like &gt;&gt; Well, I think too when it comes to like &gt;&gt; Well, I think too when it comes to like um certain things uh like like bud um certain things uh like like bud um certain things uh like like bud tests, there's just skepticism around tests, there's just skepticism around tests, there's just skepticism around supplements. It's like, okay, yeah, I supplements. It's like, okay, yeah, I supplements. It's like, okay, yeah, I know that supplements are good, but I know that supplements are good, but I know that supplements are good, but I think I need a medication. think I need a medication. think I need a medication. &gt;&gt; My doctor says &gt;&gt; My doctor says &gt;&gt; My doctor says &gt;&gt; that's my point is just like we we &gt;&gt; that's my point is just like we we &gt;&gt; that's my point is just like we we normally you go to the doctor and normally you go to the doctor and normally you go to the doctor and &gt;&gt; or like a radical change in your &gt;&gt; or like a radical change in your &gt;&gt; or like a radical change in your lifestyle. Yeah. lifestyle. Yeah. lifestyle. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like this is just you take, you know, a &gt;&gt; Like this is just you take, you know, a &gt;&gt; Like this is just you take, you know, a few ounces of this a day. few ounces of this a day. few ounces of this a day. &gt;&gt; This gets downplayed all the time. You &gt;&gt; This gets downplayed all the time. You &gt;&gt; This gets downplayed all the time. You don't know the actual efficacy of it. don't know the actual efficacy of it. don't know the actual efficacy of it. Right. That's right. I mean, I wonder Right. That's right. I mean, I wonder Right. That's right. I mean, I wonder what that what those studies look like what that what those studies look like what that what those studies look like paired with some exercise. paired with some exercise. paired with some exercise. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's exactly what I was thinking. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's exactly what I was thinking. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's exactly what I was thinking. Do that with lifestyle change. Do that with lifestyle change. Do that with lifestyle change. &gt;&gt; It's like if that that's just by that's &gt;&gt; It's like if that that's just by that's &gt;&gt; It's like if that that's just by that's their study is just showing by adding their study is just showing by adding their study is just showing by adding that it's like what happens when you add that it's like what happens when you add that it's like what happens when you add one day or two days of strength training one day or two days of strength training one day or two days of strength training per week and a walk every other day or per week and a walk every other day or per week and a walk every other day or something like something like something like &gt;&gt; that person probably I mean that number &gt;&gt; that person probably I mean that number &gt;&gt; that person probably I mean that number has has has &gt;&gt; I mean I I mean of course truth be told &gt;&gt; I mean I I mean of course truth be told &gt;&gt; I mean I I mean of course truth be told I got people to improve their their I got people to improve their their I got people to improve their their blood lipids without supplements just blood lipids without supplements just blood lipids without supplements just exercise and diet. That's just a bigger exercise and diet. That's just a bigger exercise and diet. That's just a bigger thing to do. That's all lifestyle thing to do. That's all lifestyle thing to do. That's all lifestyle change. This is like super easy here. change. This is like super easy here. change. This is like super easy here. Drink a little bit of this every day. Drink a little bit of this every day. Drink a little bit of this every day. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And see what happens. So, yeah, pretty &gt;&gt; And see what happens. So, yeah, pretty &gt;&gt; And see what happens. So, yeah, pretty cool stuff. I got I read the coolest cool stuff. I got I read the coolest cool stuff. I got I read the coolest &gt;&gt; kind of sad but cool &gt;&gt; kind of sad but cool &gt;&gt; kind of sad but cool &gt;&gt; story uh today. Um so, I've been going &gt;&gt; story uh today. Um so, I've been going &gt;&gt; story uh today. Um so, I've been going through and reading, let's see, I wrote through and reading, let's see, I wrote through and reading, let's see, I wrote it down. Um I've been going through and it down. Um I've been going through and it down. Um I've been going through and reading about people that were deemed reading about people that were deemed reading about people that were deemed saints by like the traditional, you saints by like the traditional, you saints by like the traditional, you know, churches, Catholic and Orthodox know, churches, Catholic and Orthodox know, churches, Catholic and Orthodox Church. Mhm. Church. Mhm. Church. Mhm. &gt;&gt; And there's this uh one uh saint St. &gt;&gt; And there's this uh one uh saint St. &gt;&gt; And there's this uh one uh saint St. Vitalis of Gaza and his story is really Vitalis of Gaza and his story is really Vitalis of Gaza and his story is really wild. So this guy was a monk from a wild. So this guy was a monk from a wild. So this guy was a monk from a monastery near Gaza. So this is modern monastery near Gaza. So this is modern monastery near Gaza. So this is modern day uh Palestine. So this was a long day uh Palestine. So this was a long day uh Palestine. So this was a long time ago. In his old age, time ago. In his old age, time ago. In his old age, he uh worked as a day laborer and he he uh worked as a day laborer and he he uh worked as a day laborer and he would do really hard manual labor to would do really hard manual labor to would do really hard manual labor to earn wages. And every night he would earn wages. And every night he would earn wages. And every night he would take his money and he would go and visit take his money and he would go and visit take his money and he would go and visit different brothel and he would hire a different brothel and he would hire a different brothel and he would hire a prostitute every night. Okay, that's prostitute every night. Okay, that's prostitute every night. Okay, that's what he did. Everybody on the outside what he did. Everybody on the outside what he did. Everybody on the outside was like, "This is scandalous." was like, "This is scandalous." was like, "This is scandalous." &gt;&gt; Yeah, they're going to scoff at that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, they're going to scoff at that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, they're going to scoff at that. &gt;&gt; This is horrible. Who is this? How dare &gt;&gt; This is horrible. Who is this? How dare &gt;&gt; This is horrible. Who is this? How dare he be he be he be &gt;&gt; for her to do something else? &gt;&gt; for her to do something else? &gt;&gt; for her to do something else? &gt;&gt; So, he would go in and it was a &gt;&gt; So, he would go in and it was a &gt;&gt; So, he would go in and it was a different, you know, brothel night after different, you know, brothel night after different, you know, brothel night after night. He did it for for decade, for a night. He did it for for decade, for a night. He did it for for decade, for a long time. And eventually uh somebody long time. And eventually uh somebody long time. And eventually uh somebody killed him over it. So he got hit over killed him over it. So he got hit over killed him over it. So he got hit over the head and murdered cuz they thought the head and murdered cuz they thought the head and murdered cuz they thought he was a scandalous horrible person. In he was a scandalous horrible person. In he was a scandalous horrible person. In reality, what he was doing was when he reality, what he was doing was when he reality, what he was doing was when he would be alone with these women in the would be alone with these women in the would be alone with these women in the room, he would he would pay them. room, he would he would pay them. room, he would he would pay them. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; First he'd give them money. &gt;&gt; First he'd give them money. &gt;&gt; First he'd give them money. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And then he'd say, "I've paid for this &gt;&gt; And then he'd say, "I've paid for this &gt;&gt; And then he'd say, "I've paid for this night so you can spend it without sin." night so you can spend it without sin." night so you can spend it without sin." &gt;&gt; And then he would encourage them to &gt;&gt; And then he would encourage them to &gt;&gt; And then he would encourage them to sleep. And he would stay awake all night sleep. And he would stay awake all night sleep. And he would stay awake all night and pray and pray and pray &gt;&gt; over them. Wow. &gt;&gt; over them. Wow. &gt;&gt; over them. Wow. &gt;&gt; And he would do this every single night. &gt;&gt; And he would do this every single night. &gt;&gt; And he would do this every single night. And they didn't find out until his And they didn't find out until his And they didn't find out until his burial, his funeral when many of these burial, his funeral when many of these burial, his funeral when many of these women came forward publicly and say he women came forward publicly and say he women came forward publicly and say he saved me. I got married. I became a saved me. I got married. I became a saved me. I got married. I became a mother. I was able to leave the brothel. mother. I was able to leave the brothel. mother. I was able to leave the brothel. Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow. &gt;&gt; Because of this man. So he became this. &gt;&gt; Because of this man. So he became this. &gt;&gt; Because of this man. So he became this. But he lived his whole life. The whole But he lived his whole life. The whole But he lived his whole life. The whole town think town think town think &gt;&gt; he had that Yeah. stigma uh up until his &gt;&gt; he had that Yeah. stigma uh up until his &gt;&gt; he had that Yeah. stigma uh up until his death. People didn't know. death. People didn't know. death. People didn't know. &gt;&gt; So so wild that that somebody wouldn't &gt;&gt; So so wild that that somebody wouldn't &gt;&gt; So so wild that that somebody wouldn't have found out beforehand. It's so weird have found out beforehand. It's so weird have found out beforehand. It's so weird &gt;&gt; cuz they wanted to keep it quiet. He &gt;&gt; cuz they wanted to keep it quiet. He &gt;&gt; cuz they wanted to keep it quiet. He wanted to keep it quiet. You know, they wanted to keep it quiet. You know, they wanted to keep it quiet. You know, they were just like, uh, maybe they were were just like, uh, maybe they were were just like, uh, maybe they were afraid of the owners of the brothel. Who afraid of the owners of the brothel. Who afraid of the owners of the brothel. Who knows? knows? knows? &gt;&gt; Some of the backlash. &gt;&gt; Some of the backlash. &gt;&gt; Some of the backlash. &gt;&gt; What's Yeah. What's cool about this is &gt;&gt; What's Yeah. What's cool about this is &gt;&gt; What's Yeah. What's cool about this is he he cuz I'm sure he knew that he he cuz I'm sure he knew that he he cuz I'm sure he knew that everybody thought he was this horrible everybody thought he was this horrible everybody thought he was this horrible man, man, man, &gt;&gt; but without elevating himself and say, &gt;&gt; but without elevating himself and say, &gt;&gt; but without elevating himself and say, "You guys don't know what I'm doing. I'm "You guys don't know what I'm doing. I'm "You guys don't know what I'm doing. I'm trying to help these girls." He let trying to help these girls." He let trying to help these girls." He let himself be thought of as this piece of himself be thought of as this piece of himself be thought of as this piece of crap while protecting these women. crap while protecting these women. crap while protecting these women. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And interesting &gt;&gt; And interesting &gt;&gt; And interesting &gt;&gt; doing something like that ever since. &gt;&gt; doing something like that ever since. &gt;&gt; doing something like that ever since. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? &gt;&gt; That is crazy. &gt;&gt; That is crazy. &gt;&gt; That is crazy. &gt;&gt; I know. I read that story and I was &gt;&gt; I know. I read that story and I was &gt;&gt; I know. I read that story and I was like, man, like, man, like, man, &gt;&gt; this is cool. That's super rare to find. &gt;&gt; this is cool. That's super rare to find. &gt;&gt; this is cool. That's super rare to find. &gt;&gt; Super rare. Super super rare. &gt;&gt; Super rare. Super super rare. &gt;&gt; Super rare. Super super rare. &gt;&gt; Super interesting. &gt;&gt; Super interesting. &gt;&gt; Super interesting. &gt;&gt; Anyway, I got a Florida doctor study uh &gt;&gt; Anyway, I got a Florida doctor study uh &gt;&gt; Anyway, I got a Florida doctor study uh story. story. story. &gt;&gt; A Florida doctor. &gt;&gt; A Florida doctor. &gt;&gt; A Florida doctor. &gt;&gt; It always starts with Florida. &gt;&gt; It always starts with Florida. &gt;&gt; It always starts with Florida. &gt;&gt; I know that that what we did the other &gt;&gt; I know that that what we did the other &gt;&gt; I know that that what we did the other day was hilarious where we just pulled day was hilarious where we just pulled day was hilarious where we just pulled up the date up the date up the date &gt;&gt; Florida and your birthday. What was it? &gt;&gt; Florida and your birthday. What was it? &gt;&gt; Florida and your birthday. What was it? &gt;&gt; It probably has. Has it? It's been a &gt;&gt; It probably has. Has it? It's been a &gt;&gt; It probably has. Has it? It's been a while. while. while. &gt;&gt; We should do We should do Dylan's &gt;&gt; We should do We should do Dylan's &gt;&gt; We should do We should do Dylan's birthday. Let's see what Dylan comes up birthday. Let's see what Dylan comes up birthday. Let's see what Dylan comes up with. What was it? It was Florida, man. with. What was it? It was Florida, man. with. What was it? It was Florida, man. &gt;&gt; And then your birthday and your &gt;&gt; And then your birthday and your &gt;&gt; And then your birthday and your birthday. Yeah. birthday. Yeah. birthday. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Or just the date. The month and the day &gt;&gt; Or just the date. The month and the day &gt;&gt; Or just the date. The month and the day of the What's your month and day for of the What's your month and day for of the What's your month and day for your birthday? your birthday? your birthday? &gt;&gt; February 28th. &gt;&gt; February 28th. &gt;&gt; February 28th. &gt;&gt; So, February 28, Florida, man. Let's see &gt;&gt; So, February 28, Florida, man. Let's see &gt;&gt; So, February 28, Florida, man. Let's see what Let's see what Dylan I remember. what Let's see what Dylan I remember. what Let's see what Dylan I remember. Whose was the worst? Was yours, Justin? Whose was the worst? Was yours, Justin? Whose was the worst? Was yours, Justin? &gt;&gt; I'm pretty sure it was my &gt;&gt; I'm pretty sure it was my &gt;&gt; I'm pretty sure it was my &gt;&gt; You had a pretty bad piece of bread. &gt;&gt; You had a pretty bad piece of bread. &gt;&gt; You had a pretty bad piece of bread. &gt;&gt; I had some real doucheb &gt;&gt; I had some real doucheb &gt;&gt; I had some real doucheb Florida man ends a standoff for a slice Florida man ends a standoff for a slice Florida man ends a standoff for a slice of pizza. of pizza. of pizza. &gt;&gt; That's not bad, dude. &gt;&gt; That's not bad, dude. &gt;&gt; That's not bad, dude. &gt;&gt; That is &gt;&gt; That is &gt;&gt; That is &gt;&gt; uh So, there was a doctor in Florida who &gt;&gt; uh So, there was a doctor in Florida who &gt;&gt; uh So, there was a doctor in Florida who was supposed to I'll pull up just to was supposed to I'll pull up just to was supposed to I'll pull up just to make sure I get the right details. make sure I get the right details. make sure I get the right details. Uh he was supposed to remove um a Uh he was supposed to remove um a Uh he was supposed to remove um a person's spleen and instead removed his person's spleen and instead removed his person's spleen and instead removed his liver. liver. liver. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; And the guy died. &gt;&gt; And the guy died. &gt;&gt; And the guy died. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah, he How does that happen, &gt;&gt; Yeah, he How does that happen, &gt;&gt; Yeah, he How does that happen, &gt;&gt; dude? It's rare, but it happens. &gt;&gt; dude? It's rare, but it happens. &gt;&gt; dude? It's rare, but it happens. &gt;&gt; You know that happens too when people &gt;&gt; You know that happens too when people &gt;&gt; You know that happens too when people get amputate amputated limb. get amputate amputated limb. get amputate amputated limb. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah, they do the wrong &gt;&gt; Oh yeah, they do the wrong &gt;&gt; Oh yeah, they do the wrong &gt;&gt; I've actually heard people mark &gt;&gt; I've actually heard people mark &gt;&gt; I've actually heard people mark themselves before surgery because of themselves before surgery because of themselves before surgery because of that. that. that. &gt;&gt; They actually do that in surgery. So &gt;&gt; They actually do that in surgery. So &gt;&gt; They actually do that in surgery. So they'll they'll mark the they'll they'll they'll they'll mark the they'll they'll they'll they'll mark the they'll they'll have several people mark the right have several people mark the right have several people mark the right &gt;&gt; cut. &gt;&gt; cut. &gt;&gt; cut. This is a good one. This is a good one. This is a good one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Keep me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Keep me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Keep me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You imagine going in there, you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. You imagine going in there, you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. You imagine going in there, you're supposed to, you know, remove your right supposed to, you know, remove your right supposed to, you know, remove your right leg. You're like sad about it. leg. You're like sad about it. leg. You're like sad about it. &gt;&gt; Imagine you wrote &gt;&gt; Imagine you wrote &gt;&gt; Imagine you wrote &gt;&gt; how do you get the wrong organ, dude? &gt;&gt; how do you get the wrong organ, dude? &gt;&gt; how do you get the wrong organ, dude? Like Like Like &gt;&gt; that's a whole different thing. &gt;&gt; that's a whole different thing. &gt;&gt; that's a whole different thing. &gt;&gt; That's a whole different like the limb &gt;&gt; That's a whole different like the limb &gt;&gt; That's a whole different like the limb would almost make sense. would almost make sense. would almost make sense. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Does he refer to the charting was wrong &gt;&gt; Does he refer to the charting was wrong &gt;&gt; Does he refer to the charting was wrong or like like how does that or like like how does that or like like how does that &gt;&gt; I don't know, dude. That's messed up. &gt;&gt; I don't know, dude. That's messed up. &gt;&gt; I don't know, dude. That's messed up. That's That's That's &gt;&gt; Yeah, the limb makes sense because &gt;&gt; Yeah, the limb makes sense because &gt;&gt; Yeah, the limb makes sense because in the chart it says like right and in the chart it says like right and in the chart it says like right and you're like you're facing them and you you're like you're facing them and you you're like you're facing them and you think to your right or something like think to your right or something like think to your right or something like that or something silly. that or something silly. that or something silly. &gt;&gt; You got to lose your license for that. &gt;&gt; You got to lose your license for that. &gt;&gt; You got to lose your license for that. &gt;&gt; But like the wrong organ is like &gt;&gt; But like the wrong organ is like &gt;&gt; But like the wrong organ is like &gt;&gt; what are you doing? &gt;&gt; what are you doing? &gt;&gt; what are you doing? &gt;&gt; I don't know about you guys but if I &gt;&gt; I don't know about you guys but if I &gt;&gt; I don't know about you guys but if I take my car to the mechanic and they do take my car to the mechanic and they do take my car to the mechanic and they do something wrong I'm furious dude. something wrong I'm furious dude. something wrong I'm furious dude. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah like this bro. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah like this bro. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah like this bro. &gt;&gt; Well it's tough dude. I mean &gt;&gt; Well it's tough dude. I mean &gt;&gt; Well it's tough dude. I mean &gt;&gt; that just happened. &gt;&gt; that just happened. &gt;&gt; that just happened. &gt;&gt; Yeah it just happened. It's like a big &gt;&gt; Yeah it just happened. It's like a big &gt;&gt; Yeah it just happened. It's like a big deal. deal. deal. &gt;&gt; Is always risky man. There's always &gt;&gt; Is always risky man. There's always &gt;&gt; Is always risky man. There's always things like that happening. things like that happening. things like that happening. &gt;&gt; What do you say? I I actually feel I &gt;&gt; What do you say? I I actually feel I &gt;&gt; What do you say? I I actually feel I mean I know the doctor. mean I know the doctor. mean I know the doctor. &gt;&gt; How How old was the guy? Do you know? &gt;&gt; How How old was the guy? Do you know? &gt;&gt; How How old was the guy? Do you know? &gt;&gt; 70. &gt;&gt; 70. &gt;&gt; 70. &gt;&gt; I feel bad for the &gt;&gt; I feel bad for the &gt;&gt; I feel bad for the &gt;&gt; That's better, but I mean &gt;&gt; That's better, but I mean &gt;&gt; That's better, but I mean &gt;&gt; I know. Imagine the doctor like after he &gt;&gt; I know. Imagine the doctor like after he &gt;&gt; I know. Imagine the doctor like after he finds out. finds out. finds out. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, especially if it's obviously &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, especially if it's obviously &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, especially if it's obviously unintentional. unintentional. unintentional. &gt;&gt; You remember that feeling you got when &gt;&gt; You remember that feeling you got when &gt;&gt; You remember that feeling you got when you were a kid when you knew you got you were a kid when you knew you got you were a kid when you knew you got caught like your parents caught and caught like your parents caught and caught like your parents caught and you're like, "Oh my god, they found you're like, "Oh my god, they found you're like, "Oh my god, they found out." And that dread feeling out." And that dread feeling out." And that dread feeling &gt;&gt; multiply times a million. &gt;&gt; multiply times a million. &gt;&gt; multiply times a million. &gt;&gt; You're responsible for that. Oh man. &gt;&gt; You're responsible for that. Oh man. &gt;&gt; You're responsible for that. Oh man. &gt;&gt; This guy's like, "Uhoh, I just What do I &gt;&gt; This guy's like, "Uhoh, I just What do I &gt;&gt; This guy's like, "Uhoh, I just What do I do?" do?" do?" &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, well, you're fired right &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, well, you're fired right &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, well, you're fired right after that. after that. after that. &gt;&gt; You're done. &gt;&gt; You're done. &gt;&gt; You're done. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah, of course you're going to lose. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah, of course you're going to lose. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah, of course you're going to lose. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, I mean, and and also &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, I mean, and and also &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, I mean, and and also probably get mega sued, right? probably get mega sued, right? probably get mega sued, right? &gt;&gt; I mean, you got insurance and stuff that &gt;&gt; I mean, you got insurance and stuff that &gt;&gt; I mean, you got insurance and stuff that I think covers that, but I think covers that, but I think covers that, but &gt;&gt; doesn't it cover malpractice? &gt;&gt; doesn't it cover malpractice? &gt;&gt; doesn't it cover malpractice? &gt;&gt; Well, lot still has to be a lawsuit, I'm &gt;&gt; Well, lot still has to be a lawsuit, I'm &gt;&gt; Well, lot still has to be a lawsuit, I'm sure. sure. sure. &gt;&gt; Yeah, malpractice will cover that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, malpractice will cover that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, malpractice will cover that. &gt;&gt; But I I would just I mean, what do you &gt;&gt; But I I would just I mean, what do you &gt;&gt; But I I would just I mean, what do you do? I think a doctorally do? I think a doctorally do? I think a doctorally covered in a situation like that. covered in a situation like that. covered in a situation like that. &gt;&gt; They have malpractice insurance. &gt;&gt; They have malpractice insurance. &gt;&gt; They have malpractice insurance. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; they have to be insured. &gt;&gt; they have to be insured. &gt;&gt; they have to be insured. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; No, I get that to be insured, but I &gt;&gt; No, I get that to be insured, but I &gt;&gt; No, I get that to be insured, but I didn't realize like didn't realize like didn't realize like &gt;&gt; for for for mistakes, negligence. So &gt;&gt; for for for mistakes, negligence. So &gt;&gt; for for for mistakes, negligence. So malpractice is the main basically and malpractice is the main basically and malpractice is the main basically and and it okay and then it covers even like and it okay and then it covers even like and it okay and then it covers even like death. You make a mistake and kill death. You make a mistake and kill death. You make a mistake and kill somebody. somebody. somebody. &gt;&gt; Which do which uh medical practice has &gt;&gt; Which do which uh medical practice has &gt;&gt; Which do which uh medical practice has the highest malpractice? the highest malpractice? the highest malpractice? &gt;&gt; I I think in California it's obs. &gt;&gt; I I think in California it's obs. &gt;&gt; I I think in California it's obs. &gt;&gt; Oh really? &gt;&gt; Oh really? &gt;&gt; Oh really? &gt;&gt; Oh really? &gt;&gt; Oh really? &gt;&gt; Oh really? &gt;&gt; Yes. Cuz I think that they're &gt;&gt; Yes. Cuz I think that they're &gt;&gt; Yes. Cuz I think that they're &gt;&gt; You think it'd be cosmetic? &gt;&gt; You think it'd be cosmetic? &gt;&gt; You think it'd be cosmetic? &gt;&gt; No, I think it's obs because they're &gt;&gt; No, I think it's obs because they're &gt;&gt; No, I think it's obs because they're responsible for I think they're responsible for I think they're responsible for I think they're responsible up until the kid is 18 responsible up until the kid is 18 responsible up until the kid is 18 &gt;&gt; for things that could be tied back to &gt;&gt; for things that could be tied back to &gt;&gt; for things that could be tied back to the delivery. the delivery. the delivery. &gt;&gt; Oh, interesting. I think that's in &gt;&gt; Oh, interesting. I think that's in &gt;&gt; Oh, interesting. I think that's in California if I'm not mistaken. California if I'm not mistaken. California if I'm not mistaken. &gt;&gt; Interesting. &gt;&gt; Interesting. &gt;&gt; Interesting. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, but &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, but &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, but &gt;&gt; all the way up till 18, &gt;&gt; all the way up till 18, &gt;&gt; all the way up till 18, &gt;&gt; I believe. So, I trained an OB and I and &gt;&gt; I believe. So, I trained an OB and I and &gt;&gt; I believe. So, I trained an OB and I and I'm I'm I'm &gt;&gt; That's wild. &gt;&gt; That's wild. &gt;&gt; That's wild. &gt;&gt; And I think she told me that hers &gt;&gt; And I think she told me that hers &gt;&gt; And I think she told me that hers &gt;&gt; I wonder how often that is. Somebody &gt;&gt; I wonder how often that is. Somebody &gt;&gt; I wonder how often that is. Somebody comes back 17 years later and like, comes back 17 years later and like, comes back 17 years later and like, &gt;&gt; well, it looks like my autism was &gt;&gt; well, it looks like my autism was &gt;&gt; well, it looks like my autism was connected to what you did when I was connected to what you did when I was connected to what you did when I was born or something like that. born or something like that. born or something like that. &gt;&gt; Wow. They &gt;&gt; Wow. They &gt;&gt; Wow. They &gt;&gt; Wow, look at that. &gt;&gt; Wow, look at that. &gt;&gt; Wow, look at that. &gt;&gt; What is it? &gt;&gt; What is it? &gt;&gt; What is it? &gt;&gt; Neurosurgery and thoracic &gt;&gt; Neurosurgery and thoracic &gt;&gt; Neurosurgery and thoracic cardiovascular. cardiovascular. cardiovascular. Uh, highest annual malpractice claim Uh, highest annual malpractice claim Uh, highest annual malpractice claim rates. rates. rates. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. Wow. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. Wow. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. So, obes and general surgery al Okay. So, obes and general surgery al Okay. So, obes and general surgery al also have to hire surgery. also have to hire surgery. also have to hire surgery. &gt;&gt; Wow. Nearly 19% of these specialists &gt;&gt; Wow. Nearly 19% of these specialists &gt;&gt; Wow. Nearly 19% of these specialists facing claims yearly. Wow. facing claims yearly. Wow. facing claims yearly. Wow. &gt;&gt; That's rough. Well, I mean &gt;&gt; That's rough. Well, I mean &gt;&gt; That's rough. Well, I mean &gt;&gt; that's almost a almost a quarter of them &gt;&gt; that's almost a almost a quarter of them &gt;&gt; that's almost a almost a quarter of them are are yearly facing claims. are are yearly facing claims. are are yearly facing claims. &gt;&gt; Well, I mean that's think about what &gt;&gt; Well, I mean that's think about what &gt;&gt; Well, I mean that's think about what you're doing. you're doing. you're doing. &gt;&gt; Imagine the I Well, no, of course. It's &gt;&gt; Imagine the I Well, no, of course. It's &gt;&gt; Imagine the I Well, no, of course. It's one of the It's probably the Isn't that one of the It's probably the Isn't that one of the It's probably the Isn't that the most It is brain surgery. the most It is brain surgery. the most It is brain surgery. &gt;&gt; Risky. Risky surgery. &gt;&gt; Risky. Risky surgery. &gt;&gt; Risky. Risky surgery. &gt;&gt; Risky as it gets. &gt;&gt; Risky as it gets. &gt;&gt; Risky as it gets. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't know about you guys, but when I meet I don't know. when I meet I don't know. when I meet I don't know. &gt;&gt; You know, I know like uh it's I don't &gt;&gt; You know, I know like uh it's I don't &gt;&gt; You know, I know like uh it's I don't know. I think sometimes especially in know. I think sometimes especially in know. I think sometimes especially in our space, people talk about doctors our space, people talk about doctors our space, people talk about doctors particular way. When I meet doctors, particular way. When I meet doctors, particular way. When I meet doctors, especially surgeons, I'm like for me, especially surgeons, I'm like for me, especially surgeons, I'm like for me, it's like they're it's like a a it's like they're it's like a a it's like they're it's like a a celebrity. And I don't mean that like celebrity. And I don't mean that like celebrity. And I don't mean that like I'm like, "Oh, you're the I mean, it's I'm like, "Oh, you're the I mean, it's I'm like, "Oh, you're the I mean, it's like, man, you're doing like, man, you're doing like, man, you're doing &gt;&gt; No, it's incredible." Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; No, it's incredible." Yeah, dude. &gt;&gt; No, it's incredible." Yeah, dude. They're they're so skillful. They're they're so skillful. They're they're so skillful. &gt;&gt; I mean, autom for me personally, it's &gt;&gt; I mean, autom for me personally, it's &gt;&gt; I mean, autom for me personally, it's automatic respect. automatic respect. automatic respect. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Automatic respect. &gt;&gt; Automatic respect. &gt;&gt; Automatic respect. &gt;&gt; Well, isn't that what I mean? Surgeons &gt;&gt; Well, isn't that what I mean? Surgeons &gt;&gt; Well, isn't that what I mean? Surgeons are like the, you know, F1 drivers of of are like the, you know, F1 drivers of of are like the, you know, F1 drivers of of the medical field, right? when that I the medical field, right? when that I the medical field, right? when that I mean that when you like when you think mean that when you like when you think mean that when you like when you think of like F1 racing is like the pinnacle of like F1 racing is like the pinnacle of like F1 racing is like the pinnacle of racing is like there's only 20 in the of racing is like there's only 20 in the of racing is like there's only 20 in the world that make it to that level it's world that make it to that level it's world that make it to that level it's like that's would be surgeons for the like that's would be surgeons for the like that's would be surgeons for the medical field right I mean it doesn't medical field right I mean it doesn't medical field right I mean it doesn't get higher as far as the technical get higher as far as the technical get higher as far as the technical &gt;&gt; you know within surgeons this is going &gt;&gt; you know within surgeons this is going &gt;&gt; you know within surgeons this is going to get some heat within to get some heat within to get some heat within &gt;&gt; within them there's also different &gt;&gt; within them there's also different &gt;&gt; within them there's also different respect rankings among respect rankings among respect rankings among &gt;&gt; Yeah right I mean you talked about this &gt;&gt; Yeah right I mean you talked about this &gt;&gt; Yeah right I mean you talked about this before about what they say about like before about what they say about like before about what they say about like orthopedic orthopedic orthopedic &gt;&gt; I think orthops &gt;&gt; I think orthops &gt;&gt; I think orthops right like the bros right like the bros right like the bros &gt;&gt; I think they think they're like bros &gt;&gt; I think they think they're like bros &gt;&gt; I think they think they're like bros &gt;&gt; is that like on scrubs Now, bros, &gt;&gt; is that like on scrubs Now, bros, &gt;&gt; is that like on scrubs Now, bros, &gt;&gt; does that is that have to do with how &gt;&gt; does that is that have to do with how &gt;&gt; does that is that have to do with how low of risk in comparison low of risk in comparison low of risk in comparison &gt;&gt; if you're dealing with uh &gt;&gt; if you're dealing with uh &gt;&gt; if you're dealing with uh &gt;&gt; I don't know if it has to do with like &gt;&gt; I don't know if it has to do with like &gt;&gt; I don't know if it has to do with like &gt;&gt; I mean it makes sense for that. Like &gt;&gt; I mean it makes sense for that. Like &gt;&gt; I mean it makes sense for that. Like &gt;&gt; I think it's all &gt;&gt; I think it's all &gt;&gt; I think it's all &gt;&gt; vascular, brain, back. I mean these &gt;&gt; vascular, brain, back. I mean these &gt;&gt; vascular, brain, back. I mean these things like that's high risk, right? things like that's high risk, right? things like that's high risk, right? Organ stuff like if you're dealing with Organ stuff like if you're dealing with Organ stuff like if you're dealing with like knee, shoulder, ankle like knee, shoulder, ankle like knee, shoulder, ankle &gt;&gt; like you're this is not like uh &gt;&gt; like you're this is not like uh &gt;&gt; like you're this is not like uh &gt;&gt; I don't know. I don't know if it has to &gt;&gt; I don't know. I don't know if it has to &gt;&gt; I don't know. I don't know if it has to do with the complexity of the surgery or do with the complexity of the surgery or do with the complexity of the surgery or if it has to do with the fact that if it has to do with the fact that if it has to do with the fact that &gt;&gt; first I want to know why why why &gt;&gt; first I want to know why why why &gt;&gt; first I want to know why why why &gt;&gt; cuz I've known a lot of orthopods and &gt;&gt; cuz I've known a lot of orthopods and &gt;&gt; cuz I've known a lot of orthopods and they're all they're all workout people they're all they're all workout people they're all they're all workout people like they're all like they cycle they like they're all like they cycle they like they're all like they cycle they bike they lift bike they lift bike they lift &gt;&gt; kind of buff guys. &gt;&gt; kind of buff guys. &gt;&gt; kind of buff guys. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So I think maybe that's what it is &gt;&gt; Yeah. So I think maybe that's what it is &gt;&gt; Yeah. So I think maybe that's what it is cuz they got that reputation. cuz they got that reputation. cuz they got that reputation. &gt;&gt; I don't know if you not search that. &gt;&gt; I don't know if you not search that. &gt;&gt; I don't know if you not search that. What is it do you want specifically? What is it do you want specifically? What is it do you want specifically? &gt;&gt; Search wise, &gt;&gt; Search wise, &gt;&gt; Search wise, &gt;&gt; which surgeon has the least which &gt;&gt; which surgeon has the least which &gt;&gt; which surgeon has the least which &gt;&gt; No, no. Like like I mean you I think you &gt;&gt; No, no. Like like I mean you I think you &gt;&gt; No, no. Like like I mean you I think you already say like uh um how would you already say like uh um how would you already say like uh um how would you would Google this better than I would? would Google this better than I would? would Google this better than I would? Help Doug here like uh this is um Help Doug here like uh this is um Help Doug here like uh this is um &gt;&gt; among doctors which types of surgeons &gt;&gt; among doctors which types of surgeons &gt;&gt; among doctors which types of surgeons get the most and least respect. There get the most and least respect. There get the most and least respect. There you go. There you go. Put that up there. you go. There you go. Put that up there. you go. There you go. Put that up there. &gt;&gt; I just remember watching knee surgery &gt;&gt; I just remember watching knee surgery &gt;&gt; I just remember watching knee surgery and it looked like like Thanksgiving and it looked like like Thanksgiving and it looked like like Thanksgiving carpet. carpet. carpet. &gt;&gt; Oh, bro. I watched mine. I watched mine &gt;&gt; Oh, bro. I watched mine. I watched mine &gt;&gt; Oh, bro. I watched mine. I watched mine and I swear to God use this is the tool. and I swear to God use this is the tool. and I swear to God use this is the tool. I swear to God, I did not have I had 50% I swear to God, I did not have I had 50% I swear to God, I did not have I had 50% of the pain I had pre-watching the of the pain I had pre-watching the of the pain I had pre-watching the video. After I had the video, my pain video. After I had the video, my pain video. After I had the video, my pain increased because I saw how they went increased because I saw how they went increased because I saw how they went associated and you watched him just like associated and you watched him just like associated and you watched him just like jabbing away and everything like, "Oh." jabbing away and everything like, "Oh." jabbing away and everything like, "Oh." And then I remember my knee and this And then I remember my knee and this And then I remember my knee and this whole laparoscopic thing like, "Oh, whole laparoscopic thing like, "Oh, whole laparoscopic thing like, "Oh, we'll just send you home the next day." we'll just send you home the next day." we'll just send you home the next day." I remember getting that, you know, done I remember getting that, you know, done I remember getting that, you know, done when they removed my adrenal gland. It when they removed my adrenal gland. It when they removed my adrenal gland. It was like, yeah, no big deal. It was for was like, yeah, no big deal. It was for was like, yeah, no big deal. It was for them it was a no big deal. But then like them it was a no big deal. But then like them it was a no big deal. But then like oh man the next few weeks I was like oh man the next few weeks I was like oh man the next few weeks I was like &gt;&gt; all right so here's the surgeons this is &gt;&gt; all right so here's the surgeons this is &gt;&gt; all right so here's the surgeons this is according to what is this AI surgeons according to what is this AI surgeons according to what is this AI surgeons with the most respect or prestige uh with the most respect or prestige uh with the most respect or prestige uh neurosurgery cardiothoracic surgery neurosurgery cardiothoracic surgery neurosurgery cardiothoracic surgery &gt;&gt; plastic reconstructive surgery &gt;&gt; plastic reconstructive surgery &gt;&gt; plastic reconstructive surgery &gt;&gt; orthopedic over trauma &gt;&gt; orthopedic over trauma &gt;&gt; orthopedic over trauma &gt;&gt; orthopedic often seen as the jocks of &gt;&gt; orthopedic often seen as the jocks of &gt;&gt; orthopedic often seen as the jocks of the medical field technically demanding the medical field technically demanding the medical field technically demanding highpaying and very competitive to highpaying and very competitive to highpaying and very competitive to enter. Okay. Okay. enter. Okay. Okay. enter. Okay. Okay. &gt;&gt; Trauma surgery. Duh. And then with less &gt;&gt; Trauma surgery. Duh. And then with less &gt;&gt; Trauma surgery. Duh. And then with less perceived procedures, general surgery, perceived procedures, general surgery, perceived procedures, general surgery, uh, vascular surgery. uh, vascular surgery. uh, vascular surgery. &gt;&gt; Vascular surgery. &gt;&gt; Vascular surgery. &gt;&gt; Vascular surgery. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, they work with a lot of old &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, they work with a lot of old &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, they work with a lot of old like your your population. They work like your your population. They work like your your population. They work urology and ENT. Yeah. Interesting. urology and ENT. Yeah. Interesting. urology and ENT. Yeah. Interesting. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Interesting. I I would love to be &gt;&gt; Yeah. Interesting. I I would love to be &gt;&gt; Yeah. Interesting. I I would love to be in that space just cuz every space has in that space just cuz every space has in that space just cuz every space has their, you know, politics and their, you know, politics and their, you know, politics and &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. So interesting that that trauma &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. So interesting that that trauma &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. So interesting that that trauma was where it was at, but yet it's was where it was at, but yet it's was where it was at, but yet it's badassery factory surgery that requires badassery factory surgery that requires badassery factory surgery that requires high level skills at 3:00 a.m. It would high level skills at 3:00 a.m. It would high level skills at 3:00 a.m. It would be trauma emergency and so it doesn't be trauma emergency and so it doesn't be trauma emergency and so it doesn't get as much prestige. That's weird. get as much prestige. That's weird. get as much prestige. That's weird. &gt;&gt; No, that's holds high prestige. &gt;&gt; No, that's holds high prestige. &gt;&gt; No, that's holds high prestige. &gt;&gt; High high prestige. &gt;&gt; High high prestige. &gt;&gt; High high prestige. &gt;&gt; Badass refactor. &gt;&gt; Badass refactor. &gt;&gt; Badass refactor. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, &gt;&gt; bro. Yeah. Trauma to me is a trip. &gt;&gt; bro. Yeah. Trauma to me is a trip. &gt;&gt; bro. Yeah. Trauma to me is a trip. Imagine you're Imagine you're Imagine you're &gt;&gt; Well, that's what that that one show &gt;&gt; Well, that's what that that one show &gt;&gt; Well, that's what that that one show that one show that that one show that that one show that &gt;&gt; we got gunshot wound &gt;&gt; we got gunshot wound &gt;&gt; we got gunshot wound &gt;&gt; that they recommended to us to watch. I &gt;&gt; that they recommended to us to watch. I &gt;&gt; that they recommended to us to watch. I could only watch like a couple episodes could only watch like a couple episodes could only watch like a couple episodes and I couldn't watch anymore. and I couldn't watch anymore. and I couldn't watch anymore. &gt;&gt; Sorry. What was the name of that &gt;&gt; Sorry. What was the name of that &gt;&gt; Sorry. What was the name of that episode? It was uh episode? It was uh episode? It was uh &gt;&gt; it's highly stressful to watch. &gt;&gt; it's highly stressful to watch. &gt;&gt; it's highly stressful to watch. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's it's it's rated really high. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's it's it's rated really high. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's it's it's rated really high. It's and it is good, but it's tough. It's and it is good, but it's tough. It's and it is good, but it's tough. 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It just it was so stressful to watch. It just wasn't my thing. wasn't my thing. wasn't my thing. &gt;&gt; I felt the same way too. &gt;&gt; I felt the same way too. &gt;&gt; I felt the same way too. &gt;&gt; But people love it. &gt;&gt; But people love it. &gt;&gt; But people love it. &gt;&gt; I mean, it was good. It like it it was &gt;&gt; I mean, it was good. It like it it was &gt;&gt; I mean, it was good. It like it it was good enough to pull me in for a couple good enough to pull me in for a couple good enough to pull me in for a couple episodes and then I realized the same episodes and then I realized the same episodes and then I realized the same thing too. I couldn't calm down and thing too. I couldn't calm down and thing too. I couldn't calm down and sleep and so I can't watch it at night, sleep and so I can't watch it at night, sleep and so I can't watch it at night, which is when I watched would watch. which is when I watched would watch. which is when I watched would watch. &gt;&gt; You get affected by movies really easy. &gt;&gt; You get affected by movies really easy. &gt;&gt; You get affected by movies really easy. &gt;&gt; I do. &gt;&gt; I do. &gt;&gt; I do. &gt;&gt; I You can watch some I cannot watch &gt;&gt; I You can watch some I cannot watch &gt;&gt; I You can watch some I cannot watch &gt;&gt; Oh, bro. I can watch the most terri &gt;&gt; Oh, bro. I can watch the most terri &gt;&gt; Oh, bro. I can watch the most terri You've seen me do this. You've seen me do this. You've seen me do this. &gt;&gt; I can watch the most terrifying &gt;&gt; I can watch the most terrifying &gt;&gt; I can watch the most terrifying anxietyinducing thing. Turn it off. Go anxietyinducing thing. Turn it off. Go anxietyinducing thing. Turn it off. Go right to sleep. No problem. My wife right to sleep. No problem. My wife right to sleep. No problem. My wife thinks I think that makes you say I thinks I think that makes you say I thinks I think that makes you say I think that makes you more likely to be a think that makes you more likely to be a think that makes you more likely to be a serial killer than me. serial killer than me. serial killer than me. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Maybe. &gt;&gt; Maybe. &gt;&gt; Maybe. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. There's But you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. There's But you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. There's But you're left-handed. So is it that left-handed. So is it that left-handed. So is it that &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. What are the stats? What are &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. What are the stats? What are &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. What are the stats? What are the stats? Left-handedness. the stats? Left-handedness. the stats? 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You were a Justin was a bully though. You were a bully. Justin, you were a bully. bully. Justin, you were a bully. bully. Justin, you were a bully. &gt;&gt; I was a bully. &gt;&gt; I was a bully. &gt;&gt; I was a bully. &gt;&gt; That might make you &gt;&gt; That might make you &gt;&gt; That might make you &gt;&gt; But only because I got bullied, dude. I &gt;&gt; But only because I got bullied, dude. I &gt;&gt; But only because I got bullied, dude. I I And then I was bullying the bully. I And then I was bullying the bully. I And then I was bullying the bully. &gt;&gt; There's got to be a There's got to be a &gt;&gt; There's got to be a There's got to be a &gt;&gt; There's got to be a There's got to be a a quiz. There's got to be a quiz that we a quiz. There's got to be a quiz that we a quiz. There's got to be a quiz that we could all take that we could put in could all take that we could put in could all take that we could put in there. It would kick that. there. 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So, I never had I I never animal cruelty. I was not. cruelty. I was not. cruelty. I was not. &gt;&gt; Me either. &gt;&gt; Me either. &gt;&gt; Me either. &gt;&gt; Definitely. I didn't ever pee in my bed. &gt;&gt; Definitely. I didn't ever pee in my bed. &gt;&gt; Definitely. I didn't ever pee in my bed. Not once in my life. Not once in my life. Not once in my life. &gt;&gt; I like in your life, &gt;&gt; I like in your life, &gt;&gt; I like in your life, &gt;&gt; but I Isis set things on fire, dude. &gt;&gt; but I Isis set things on fire, dude. &gt;&gt; but I Isis set things on fire, dude. &gt;&gt; I think we all did. &gt;&gt; I think we all did. &gt;&gt; I think we all did. &gt;&gt; I think every boy likes &gt;&gt; I think every boy likes &gt;&gt; I think every boy likes &gt;&gt; I tortured um insects. &gt;&gt; I tortured um insects. &gt;&gt; I tortured um insects. &gt;&gt; What does that animal? &gt;&gt; What does that animal? &gt;&gt; What does that animal? &gt;&gt; That's different. Yeah, that's not an &gt;&gt; That's different. Yeah, that's not an &gt;&gt; That's different. Yeah, that's not an animal. animal. animal. &gt;&gt; Insects. Yeah. Used to everyone everyone &gt;&gt; Insects. Yeah. Used to everyone everyone &gt;&gt; Insects. Yeah. Used to everyone everyone used to burn ants with magnifying glass. used to burn ants with magnifying glass. used to burn ants with magnifying glass. If you didn't, you didn't. You're not a If you didn't, you didn't. You're not a If you didn't, you didn't. You're not a boy. boy. boy. &gt;&gt; They're not animals, dude. They don't &gt;&gt; They're not animals, dude. They don't &gt;&gt; They're not animals, dude. They don't have souls. I mean, it did the frogs, have souls. I mean, it did the frogs, have souls. I mean, it did the frogs, too. I felt a little bad. too. I felt a little bad. too. I felt a little bad. &gt;&gt; Frogs are closer to animals. &gt;&gt; Frogs are closer to animals. &gt;&gt; Frogs are closer to animals. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you are pushing. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you are pushing. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you are pushing. &gt;&gt; I wanted a rocket and lit it. &gt;&gt; I wanted a rocket and lit it. &gt;&gt; I wanted a rocket and lit it. &gt;&gt; Blew it up. &gt;&gt; Blew it up. &gt;&gt; Blew it up. &gt;&gt; Whoa, dude. &gt;&gt; Whoa, dude. &gt;&gt; Whoa, dude. &gt;&gt; Justin, these are things we should keep. &gt;&gt; Justin, these are things we should keep. &gt;&gt; Justin, these are things we should keep. &gt;&gt; We're not gaining any sympathy here. &gt;&gt; We're not gaining any sympathy here. &gt;&gt; We're not gaining any sympathy here. &gt;&gt; These are things. &gt;&gt; These are things. &gt;&gt; These are things. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. One time, my cousins and I, One time, my cousins and I, One time, my cousins and I, &gt;&gt; we were being watched by my great uncle. &gt;&gt; we were being watched by my great uncle. &gt;&gt; we were being watched by my great uncle. So, he's like really old at this point. So, he's like really old at this point. So, he's like really old at this point. So, he just sit in a chair, watch TV. So, he just sit in a chair, watch TV. So, he just sit in a chair, watch TV. And I don't know why the mom thought it And I don't know why the mom thought it And I don't know why the mom thought it was a good idea to leave us with him. was a good idea to leave us with him. was a good idea to leave us with him. And there was a bunch of us boys and we And there was a bunch of us boys and we And there was a bunch of us boys and we were not we were like rambunctious kids were not we were like rambunctious kids were not we were like rambunctious kids and we'd go in the backyard and we'd and we'd go in the backyard and we'd and we'd go in the backyard and we'd light things on fire while two or three light things on fire while two or three light things on fire while two or three of us held a hose and would put it out of us held a hose and would put it out of us held a hose and would put it out like firefighters and uh we just kept like firefighters and uh we just kept like firefighters and uh we just kept doing this and we made a big ass fire doing this and we made a big ass fire doing this and we made a big ass fire once and we we were like uh put it out. once and we we were like uh put it out. once and we we were like uh put it out. We were like real scared and then We were like real scared and then We were like real scared and then someone came up with the idea of hey go someone came up with the idea of hey go someone came up with the idea of hey go tell tell tell go tell uncle that there's a fire and go tell uncle that there's a fire and go tell uncle that there's a fire and just like let's just see what he does, just like let's just see what he does, just like let's just see what he does, right? So we call him and he runs out. right? So we call him and he runs out. right? So we call him and he runs out. He's old, dude. So he's like kind of He's old, dude. So he's like kind of He's old, dude. So he's like kind of coming out, whatever. And we just hosed coming out, whatever. And we just hosed coming out, whatever. And we just hosed him down, dude. With the hose. him down, dude. With the hose. him down, dude. With the hose. &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. We got beat, dude. That &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. We got beat, dude. That &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. We got beat, dude. That &gt;&gt; I bet you did. &gt;&gt; I bet you did. &gt;&gt; I bet you did. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. No, our moms came home. We're &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. No, our moms came home. We're &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. No, our moms came home. We're He was wet. He didn't get dressed cuz he He was wet. He didn't get dressed cuz he He was wet. He didn't get dressed cuz he was old. So he sat cold all day while we was old. So he sat cold all day while we was old. So he sat cold all day while we were outside realizing what we did. were outside realizing what we did. were outside realizing what we did. Like, uhoh, we're going to get in Like, uhoh, we're going to get in Like, uhoh, we're going to get in trouble. And our moms had us sit in trouble. And our moms had us sit in trouble. And our moms had us sit in chairs. So we had all the boys sitting. chairs. So we had all the boys sitting. chairs. So we had all the boys sitting. And then they they got they tied us And then they they got they tied us And then they they got they tied us together and they went around a circle together and they went around a circle together and they went around a circle and just hit us. and just hit us. and just hit us. &gt;&gt; They tied you together. &gt;&gt; They tied you together. &gt;&gt; They tied you together. &gt;&gt; We had to stay in the chairs. &gt;&gt; We had to stay in the chairs. &gt;&gt; We had to stay in the chairs. &gt;&gt; Why? Why? They had to tie that most &gt;&gt; Why? Why? They had to tie that most &gt;&gt; Why? Why? They had to tie that most young men gone have gone through a stage young men gone have gone through a stage young men gone have gone through a stage or a phase of their life where that was or a phase of their life where that was or a phase of their life where that was like a common thing where you like a common thing where you like a common thing where you &gt;&gt; setting things on fire. &gt;&gt; setting things on fire. &gt;&gt; setting things on fire. &gt;&gt; Well, not even just that. Just like &gt;&gt; Well, not even just that. Just like &gt;&gt; Well, not even just that. Just like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Being destructive or doing things &gt;&gt; Yeah. Being destructive or doing things &gt;&gt; Yeah. Being destructive or doing things that are just I think we we want to know that are just I think we we want to know that are just I think we we want to know the line and and like Yeah. It's it's an the line and and like Yeah. It's it's an the line and and like Yeah. It's it's an interesting thing cuz it's like violence interesting thing cuz it's like violence interesting thing cuz it's like violence is definitely in our nature, but it's is definitely in our nature, but it's is definitely in our nature, but it's like how do you control it, like how do you control it, like how do you control it, &gt;&gt; you know? And I think that's why it was &gt;&gt; you know? And I think that's why it was &gt;&gt; you know? And I think that's why it was good for me to have sports and it's good good for me to have sports and it's good good for me to have sports and it's good for me to have like high impact sports for me to have like high impact sports for me to have like high impact sports especially especially especially &gt;&gt; uh because I I leaned high on the &gt;&gt; uh because I I leaned high on the &gt;&gt; uh because I I leaned high on the violence side. I had to be able to violence side. I had to be able to violence side. I had to be able to channel that into something more healthy channel that into something more healthy channel that into something more healthy and productive for society. You know, and productive for society. You know, and productive for society. You know, it's like kept me out of jail. Well, I it's like kept me out of jail. Well, I it's like kept me out of jail. Well, I think that who is it that was I heard think that who is it that was I heard think that who is it that was I heard someone talk about this about for what's someone talk about this about for what's someone talk about this about for what's really important for young men like an really important for young men like an really important for young men like an important thing that they have to important thing that they have to important thing that they have to develop is discipline because a grown develop is discipline because a grown develop is discipline because a grown man with no discipline is hedonistic, man with no discipline is hedonistic, man with no discipline is hedonistic, violent, he has power that he utilizes violent, he has power that he utilizes violent, he has power that he utilizes to get people to do what he wants. Uh or to get people to do what he wants. Uh or to get people to do what he wants. Uh or he can be manipulative, but more likely he can be manipulative, but more likely he can be manipulative, but more likely not the other ones. So, a man, a boy not the other ones. So, a man, a boy not the other ones. So, a man, a boy that grows up that learns to control his that grows up that learns to control his that grows up that learns to control his outbursts, that learns to control his outbursts, that learns to control his outbursts, that learns to control his desires. Uh, that's what makes a boy desires. Uh, that's what makes a boy desires. Uh, that's what makes a boy into a man. Otherwise, you have a wild into a man. Otherwise, you have a wild into a man. Otherwise, you have a wild dude, which is not good for society at dude, which is not good for society at dude, which is not good for society at all. all. all. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Which I feel like there's a lot of &gt;&gt; Yeah. Which I feel like there's a lot of &gt;&gt; Yeah. Which I feel like there's a lot of teen like teenage boys is what happens, teen like teenage boys is what happens, teen like teenage boys is what happens, right? When they when you go through right? When they when you go through right? When they when you go through that rush of testosterone and everything that rush of testosterone and everything that rush of testosterone and everything else that's like hitting you all at the else that's like hitting you all at the else that's like hitting you all at the same time. same time. same time. &gt;&gt; Yeah. What's also, and by the way, men &gt;&gt; Yeah. What's also, and by the way, men &gt;&gt; Yeah. What's also, and by the way, men know this inherently. We know this as as know this inherently. We know this as as know this inherently. We know this as as grown men when we're around like have grown men when we're around like have grown men when we're around like have you guys ever been been around a dude you guys ever been been around a dude you guys ever been been around a dude that is legit like tough either a big that is legit like tough either a big that is legit like tough either a big guy athlete or you know a fighter and guy athlete or you know a fighter and guy athlete or you know a fighter and you've seen them be in a situation where you've seen them be in a situation where you've seen them be in a situation where they totally controlled themselves. They they totally controlled themselves. They they totally controlled themselves. They couldn't couldn't couldn't &gt;&gt; How much how much instant respect do &gt;&gt; How much how much instant respect do &gt;&gt; How much how much instant respect do they get from every guy? they get from every guy? they get from every guy? &gt;&gt; Yes. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yes. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yes. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Rather than lashing out and you know and &gt;&gt; Rather than lashing out and you know and &gt;&gt; Rather than lashing out and you know and &gt;&gt; the only ones to get respect &gt;&gt; the only ones to get respect &gt;&gt; the only ones to get respect &gt;&gt; they get Exactly. Yeah. Can you I'm I'm &gt;&gt; they get Exactly. Yeah. Can you I'm I'm &gt;&gt; they get Exactly. Yeah. Can you I'm I'm trying to take myself back to like trying to take myself back to like trying to take myself back to like teenage years when you were getting into teenage years when you were getting into teenage years when you were getting into trouble like that and seeking that trouble like that and seeking that trouble like that and seeking that stuff. Like what was going through your stuff. Like what was going through your stuff. Like what was going through your head? Like what was going through my head? Like what was going through my head? Like what was going through my head at that at that age? Like head at that at that age? Like head at that at that age? Like &gt;&gt; it's exciting. &gt;&gt; it's exciting. &gt;&gt; it's exciting. &gt;&gt; Is that what it is? &gt;&gt; Is that what it is? &gt;&gt; Is that what it is? &gt;&gt; Yeah. I think for me &gt;&gt; Yeah. I think for me &gt;&gt; Yeah. I think for me &gt;&gt; test your own test your own strength or &gt;&gt; test your own test your own strength or &gt;&gt; test your own test your own strength or whatever like what I mean what is it whatever like what I mean what is it whatever like what I mean what is it that that that &gt;&gt; frustration I think for me and just &gt;&gt; frustration I think for me and just &gt;&gt; frustration I think for me and just &gt;&gt; you had all the pent up anger. &gt;&gt; you had all the pent up anger. &gt;&gt; you had all the pent up anger. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Pent up I unleashed on people. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Pent up I unleashed on people. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Pent up I unleashed on people. &gt;&gt; He laughs. Yeah. I think justice was &gt;&gt; He laughs. Yeah. I think justice was &gt;&gt; He laughs. Yeah. I think justice was different. different. different. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, it was different. Well, I I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, it was different. Well, I I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, it was different. Well, I I learned how to like turn that more into learned how to like turn that more into learned how to like turn that more into like humor and like see more humor and like humor and like see more humor and like humor and like see more humor and things like uh instead of like uh turn things like uh instead of like uh turn things like uh instead of like uh turn into violence. But yeah, I think it's I into violence. But yeah, I think it's I into violence. But yeah, I think it's I think that's think that's think that's &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's just a formative time like &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's just a formative time like &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's just a formative time like you have to kind of work through a lot you have to kind of work through a lot you have to kind of work through a lot of this like uh big emotional of this like uh big emotional of this like uh big emotional uh you know surges and like how to how uh you know surges and like how to how uh you know surges and like how to how to like deal with it, how to get to a to like deal with it, how to get to a to like deal with it, how to get to a calm state. Like I think that varies calm state. Like I think that varies calm state. Like I think that varies from everybody. from everybody. from everybody. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I for me I was I did get in a lot &gt;&gt; Yeah, I for me I was I did get in a lot &gt;&gt; Yeah, I for me I was I did get in a lot of fights, but it was only because um I of fights, but it was only because um I of fights, but it was only because um I I really had this really deep sense of I really had this really deep sense of I really had this really deep sense of like if I saw something that I felt was like if I saw something that I felt was like if I saw something that I felt was like mean uh or like injustice. That's like mean uh or like injustice. That's like mean uh or like injustice. That's such a such a such a &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a thing for me. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a thing for me. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a thing for me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. If I saw someone getting picked on &gt;&gt; Yeah. If I saw someone getting picked on &gt;&gt; Yeah. If I saw someone getting picked on or I saw a guy like kind of just impose or I saw a guy like kind of just impose or I saw a guy like kind of just impose himself, himself, himself, &gt;&gt; then it was something inside of me that &gt;&gt; then it was something inside of me that &gt;&gt; then it was something inside of me that was like stir and it would burn and burn was like stir and it would burn and burn was like stir and it would burn and burn and burn and eventually I'd pick a fight and burn and eventually I'd pick a fight and burn and eventually I'd pick a fight with him. Mhm. with him. Mhm. with him. Mhm. &gt;&gt; And so that was that &gt;&gt; And so that was that &gt;&gt; And so that was that &gt;&gt; that would only bother me if it was like &gt;&gt; that would only bother me if it was like &gt;&gt; that would only bother me if it was like part of my my my part of my my my part of my my my circle. circle. circle. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Like I I connect a lot with uh uh &gt;&gt; Yeah. Like I I connect a lot with uh uh &gt;&gt; Yeah. Like I I connect a lot with uh uh your tribe. your tribe. your tribe. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know the what's the movie? &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know the what's the movie? &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know the what's the movie? Goodwill Hunting. Goodwill Hunting. Goodwill Hunting. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; With the the the the &gt;&gt; With the the the the &gt;&gt; With the the the the Yeah. Yeah. Like that I think and I Yeah. Yeah. Like that I think and I Yeah. Yeah. Like that I think and I think that has a lot to do with like think that has a lot to do with like think that has a lot to do with like seeking a family outside of like your seeking a family outside of like your seeking a family outside of like your family. family. family. &gt;&gt; Oh wow. &gt;&gt; Oh wow. &gt;&gt; Oh wow. &gt;&gt; Right. And so I think that's where that &gt;&gt; Right. And so I think that's where that &gt;&gt; Right. And so I think that's where that comes from. And so comes from. And so comes from. And so &gt;&gt; I think back to like the more I'm &gt;&gt; I think back to like the more I'm &gt;&gt; I think back to like the more I'm sitting here and like trying to ponder sitting here and like trying to ponder sitting here and like trying to ponder on like what is it that you know got me on like what is it that you know got me on like what is it that you know got me into that trouble and stuff like that. A into that trouble and stuff like that. A into that trouble and stuff like that. A lot of that was like uh standing up for lot of that was like uh standing up for lot of that was like uh standing up for your your quote unquote family that your your quote unquote family that your your quote unquote family that wasn't your family. wasn't your family. wasn't your family. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Most of the time it was like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Most of the time it was like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Most of the time it was like sticking up for somebody else and I'd sticking up for somebody else and I'd sticking up for somebody else and I'd get in those situations cuz otherwise I get in those situations cuz otherwise I get in those situations cuz otherwise I wouldn't really get in those situations, wouldn't really get in those situations, wouldn't really get in those situations, you know. It was like somebody would you know. It was like somebody would you know. It was like somebody would start something and it was like oh no start something and it was like oh no start something and it was like oh no you you you &gt;&gt; no for me it was there was always that &gt;&gt; no for me it was there was always that &gt;&gt; no for me it was there was always that but then there was always like I didn't but then there was always like I didn't but then there was always like I didn't even know the person. I would just see even know the person. I would just see even know the person. I would just see someone doing something and then I'd someone doing something and then I'd someone doing something and then I'd leave it cuz it's none of my business leave it cuz it's none of my business leave it cuz it's none of my business and then it would burn inside of me and and then it would burn inside of me and and then it would burn inside of me and then what I would do eventually is I then what I would do eventually is I then what I would do eventually is I would seek out a way to instigate would seek out a way to instigate would seek out a way to instigate something with that person. Yeah. So something with that person. Yeah. So something with that person. Yeah. So then they wouldn't even know why. But then they wouldn't even know why. But then they wouldn't even know why. But I'm starting something with you. I I'm starting something with you. I I'm starting something with you. I either shoulder bump you either shoulder bump you either shoulder bump you &gt;&gt; or I grab your drink and throw on the &gt;&gt; or I grab your drink and throw on the &gt;&gt; or I grab your drink and throw on the ground or ground or ground or &gt;&gt; throw the basketball at your face and &gt;&gt; throw the basketball at your face and &gt;&gt; throw the basketball at your face and I'd start something with you. In fact, I I'd start something with you. In fact, I I'd start something with you. In fact, I still have that feeling like if I'm still have that feeling like if I'm still have that feeling like if I'm driving, I don't do anything anymore. driving, I don't do anything anymore. driving, I don't do anything anymore. But if I see someone aggressively But if I see someone aggressively But if I see someone aggressively cutting people off, I get this feeling cutting people off, I get this feeling cutting people off, I get this feeling inside where I'm like, I'm going to go inside where I'm like, I'm going to go inside where I'm like, I'm going to go cut him off. cut him off. cut him off. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm going to go show him. And then &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm going to go show him. And then &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm going to go show him. And then I'm like in my head, I'm like, what am I I'm like in my head, I'm like, what am I I'm like in my head, I'm like, what am I doing? doing? doing? &gt;&gt; You think you are Batman, &gt;&gt; You think you are Batman, &gt;&gt; You think you are Batman, dude? dude? dude? &gt;&gt; I am Batman. &gt;&gt; I am Batman. &gt;&gt; I am Batman. &gt;&gt; Calm down, dude. &gt;&gt; Calm down, dude. &gt;&gt; Calm down, dude. &gt;&gt; Oh, speaking of Batman, do you guys know &gt;&gt; Oh, speaking of Batman, do you guys know &gt;&gt; Oh, speaking of Batman, do you guys know who that's based off of? I think I told who that's based off of? I think I told who that's based off of? I think I told you guys that. you guys that. you guys that. &gt;&gt; It's based Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; It's based Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; It's based Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; Teddy Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; Teddy Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; Teddy Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; Yeah, Batman is. &gt;&gt; Yeah, Batman is. &gt;&gt; Yeah, Batman is. &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; I did not know that. Yeah, he used to &gt;&gt; I did not know that. Yeah, he used to &gt;&gt; I did not know that. Yeah, he used to watch the show of the Billy Club uh at watch the show of the Billy Club uh at watch the show of the Billy Club uh at night. night. night. And like he'd he'd do it like like And like he'd he'd do it like like And like he'd he'd do it like like without anybody knowing and then without anybody knowing and then without anybody knowing and then obviously somebody like picked up on it. obviously somebody like picked up on it. obviously somebody like picked up on it. But yeah, he'd like go down to the But yeah, he'd like go down to the But yeah, he'd like go down to the streets and like fight crime. streets and like fight crime. streets and like fight crime. &gt;&gt; Dude, Teddy Roosevelt's got the craziest &gt;&gt; Dude, Teddy Roosevelt's got the craziest &gt;&gt; Dude, Teddy Roosevelt's got the craziest story. So he's the one that wrote that story. So he's the one that wrote that story. So he's the one that wrote that famous speech. Um famous speech. Um famous speech. Um &gt;&gt; what's in the arena? &gt;&gt; what's in the arena? &gt;&gt; what's in the arena? &gt;&gt; Uh man in the arena. &gt;&gt; Uh man in the arena. &gt;&gt; Uh man in the arena. &gt;&gt; Yeah. He was he was like this sickly kid &gt;&gt; Yeah. He was he was like this sickly kid &gt;&gt; Yeah. He was he was like this sickly kid uh had asthma and he basically exercised uh had asthma and he basically exercised uh had asthma and he basically exercised and worked out and himself out of it and and worked out and himself out of it and and worked out and himself out of it and then he would seek out uh crazy then he would seek out uh crazy then he would seek out uh crazy dangerous situations like he would he dangerous situations like he would he dangerous situations like he would he enrolled in the military to fight in a enrolled in the military to fight in a enrolled in the military to fight in a war. He put himself at the front line. war. He put himself at the front line. war. He put himself at the front line. He charged forward. Uh he learned judo. He charged forward. Uh he learned judo. He charged forward. Uh he learned judo. He would practice wrestling and judo in He would practice wrestling and judo in He would practice wrestling and judo in the White House and he'd invite people the White House and he'd invite people the White House and he'd invite people over to wrestle them. And then he when over to wrestle them. And then he when over to wrestle them. And then he when he was a police I think he was a police he was a police I think he was a police he was a police I think he was a police chief before he became president if I'm chief before he became president if I'm chief before he became president if I'm not mistaken. He would go out at night not mistaken. He would go out at night not mistaken. He would go out at night in a disguise in a disguise in a disguise &gt;&gt; and he'd fight try to fight crime. &gt;&gt; and he'd fight try to fight crime. &gt;&gt; and he'd fight try to fight crime. &gt;&gt; Is that what it is? Yeah. He worked with &gt;&gt; Is that what it is? Yeah. He worked with &gt;&gt; Is that what it is? Yeah. He worked with the to reform the police department. the to reform the police department. the to reform the police department. Yeah. Anyway, interesting interesting Yeah. Anyway, interesting interesting Yeah. Anyway, interesting interesting story about that. story about that. story about that. &gt;&gt; I didn't know that was I knew there was &gt;&gt; I didn't know that was I knew there was &gt;&gt; I didn't know that was I knew there was there there there &gt;&gt; he's the one that got shot right while &gt;&gt; he's the one that got shot right while &gt;&gt; he's the one that got shot right while he was giving a speech. he was giving a speech. he was giving a speech. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. And it didn't it didn't it &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. And it didn't it didn't it &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. And it didn't it didn't it hit like a notepad or something? hit like a notepad or something? hit like a notepad or something? &gt;&gt; No, it got in him and he finished the &gt;&gt; No, it got in him and he finished the &gt;&gt; No, it got in him and he finished the speech. speech. speech. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's what happened. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's what happened. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's what happened. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So according to this, the original &gt;&gt; Yeah. So according to this, the original &gt;&gt; Yeah. So according to this, the original 1939 Batman was inspired by figures like 1939 Batman was inspired by figures like 1939 Batman was inspired by figures like Zoro and Shadow. However, like Zoro and Shadow. However, like Zoro and Shadow. However, like Christopher Nolan took inspiration when Christopher Nolan took inspiration when Christopher Nolan took inspiration when he did the Dark Knight. he did the Dark Knight. he did the Dark Knight. &gt;&gt; Okay. So that's the condition from Teddy &gt;&gt; Okay. So that's the condition from Teddy &gt;&gt; Okay. So that's the condition from Teddy Roosevelt. Roosevelt. Roosevelt. &gt;&gt; Okay. And he was shot, right, while &gt;&gt; Okay. And he was shot, right, while &gt;&gt; Okay. And he was shot, right, while giving a speech. Is that the right guy? giving a speech. Is that the right guy? giving a speech. Is that the right guy? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Let me look. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Let me look. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Let me look. &gt;&gt; He like got shot and then he's like, I &gt;&gt; He like got shot and then he's like, I &gt;&gt; He like got shot and then he's like, I got to finish the speech before I go to got to finish the speech before I go to got to finish the speech before I go to the doctor. the doctor. the doctor. &gt;&gt; I thought it went into something. I &gt;&gt; I thought it went into something. I &gt;&gt; I thought it went into something. I thought it went into like a a notepad or thought it went into like a a notepad or thought it went into like a a notepad or like the bullet didn't fully like the bullet didn't fully like the bullet didn't fully &gt;&gt; Is that what happened? &gt;&gt; Is that what happened? &gt;&gt; Is that what happened? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I thought I don't know. Could be &gt;&gt; Yeah, I thought I don't know. Could be &gt;&gt; Yeah, I thought I don't know. Could be wrong. bullet speech. wrong. bullet speech. wrong. bullet speech. &gt;&gt; No, he was bleeding. Yeah, dude. Uh, it &gt;&gt; No, he was bleeding. Yeah, dude. Uh, it &gt;&gt; No, he was bleeding. Yeah, dude. Uh, it t Oh, yeah. And then he said this into t Oh, yeah. And then he said this into t Oh, yeah. And then he said this into the crowd, "It takes more than a bullet the crowd, "It takes more than a bullet the crowd, "It takes more than a bullet to kill a bull." to kill a bull." to kill a bull." &gt;&gt; A bull moose. &gt;&gt; A bull moose. &gt;&gt; A bull moose. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; They don't make them like that anymore, &gt;&gt; They don't make them like that anymore, &gt;&gt; They don't make them like that anymore, do they? do they? do they? &gt;&gt; No, they don't. &gt;&gt; No, they don't. &gt;&gt; No, they don't. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Kind of cool. Interesting. But &gt;&gt; Yeah. Kind of cool. Interesting. But &gt;&gt; Yeah. Kind of cool. Interesting. But anyway, anyway, anyway, &gt;&gt; I got a uh &gt;&gt; I got a uh &gt;&gt; I got a uh &gt;&gt; pre-corruption or &gt;&gt; pre-corruption or &gt;&gt; pre-corruption or &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got an interesting study for you &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got an interesting study for you &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got an interesting study for you guys. guys. guys. &gt;&gt; So, I don't know. I don't think you guys &gt;&gt; So, I don't know. I don't think you guys &gt;&gt; So, I don't know. I don't think you guys will be surprised. This might make will be surprised. This might make will be surprised. This might make people people people &gt;&gt; I I was surprised that we talked about &gt;&gt; I I was surprised that we talked about &gt;&gt; I I was surprised that we talked about the study that I sent over to I didn't the study that I sent over to I didn't the study that I sent over to I didn't realize that you brought that up. realize that you brought that up. realize that you brought that up. &gt;&gt; Yeah, we did. &gt;&gt; Yeah, we did. &gt;&gt; Yeah, we did. &gt;&gt; I didn't I didn't realize that. &gt;&gt; I didn't I didn't realize that. &gt;&gt; I didn't I didn't realize that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the one. &gt;&gt; Do you remember that, Justin? &gt;&gt; Do you remember that, Justin? &gt;&gt; Do you remember that, Justin? &gt;&gt; The Max Luger one. &gt;&gt; The Max Luger one. &gt;&gt; The Max Luger one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Were you eating the same thing &gt;&gt; Yeah. Were you eating the same thing &gt;&gt; Yeah. Were you eating the same thing every day? People every day? People every day? People &gt;&gt; I didn't know. I didn't know that was &gt;&gt; I didn't know. I didn't know that was &gt;&gt; I didn't know. I didn't know that was like Max brought that up. I didn't like Max brought that up. I didn't like Max brought that up. I didn't realize he realize he realize he &gt;&gt; Okay, now we got to talk about So, the &gt;&gt; Okay, now we got to talk about So, the &gt;&gt; Okay, now we got to talk about So, the study compared They followed a bunch of study compared They followed a bunch of study compared They followed a bunch of people people people &gt;&gt; and people who tend to eat the same &gt;&gt; and people who tend to eat the same &gt;&gt; and people who tend to eat the same thing every day lost uh more weight than thing every day lost uh more weight than thing every day lost uh more weight than people who didn't. people who didn't. people who didn't. &gt;&gt; 35% more. &gt;&gt; 35% more. &gt;&gt; 35% more. &gt;&gt; Yeah. But this is what you're doing with &gt;&gt; Yeah. But this is what you're doing with &gt;&gt; Yeah. But this is what you're doing with that is you're you're you're selecting that is you're you're you're selecting that is you're you're you're selecting people who prep. Oh, I thought it didn't people who prep. Oh, I thought it didn't people who prep. Oh, I thought it didn't tease that out. Like I thought it was tease that out. Like I thought it was tease that out. Like I thought it was like just pure like it te like you you like just pure like it te like you you like just pure like it te like you you could prep too, but you just prep could prep too, but you just prep could prep too, but you just prep different stuff versus people that different stuff versus people that different stuff versus people that actually just prep the same thing. actually just prep the same thing. actually just prep the same thing. &gt;&gt; People who tend to prep tend to prep the &gt;&gt; People who tend to prep tend to prep the &gt;&gt; People who tend to prep tend to prep the same stuff. Yeah. same stuff. Yeah. same stuff. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Also, eating the same thing over and &gt;&gt; Also, eating the same thing over and &gt;&gt; Also, eating the same thing over and over again. over again. over again. &gt;&gt; Uh it reduces palletability. &gt;&gt; Uh it reduces palletability. &gt;&gt; Uh it reduces palletability. &gt;&gt; So you're you're not going to have as &gt;&gt; So you're you're not going to have as &gt;&gt; So you're you're not going to have as much hunger and cravings. much hunger and cravings. much hunger and cravings. &gt;&gt; It also improves consistency, too. &gt;&gt; It also improves consistency, too. &gt;&gt; It also improves consistency, too. That's right. That's right. That's right. &gt;&gt; So it's like if I know that's 550 &gt;&gt; So it's like if I know that's 550 &gt;&gt; So it's like if I know that's 550 calories. I know that's 550 calories cuz calories. I know that's 550 calories cuz calories. I know that's 550 calories cuz I've you know what I'm saying? So I've you know what I'm saying? So I've you know what I'm saying? So &gt;&gt; this is why a whole food diet causes &gt;&gt; this is why a whole food diet causes &gt;&gt; this is why a whole food diet causes weight loss. It's got It's less weight loss. It's got It's less weight loss. It's got It's less palatable. palatable. palatable. &gt;&gt; Now, if you want to make it even more &gt;&gt; Now, if you want to make it even more &gt;&gt; Now, if you want to make it even more less palatable, here's what you do. Take less palatable, here's what you do. Take less palatable, here's what you do. Take a whole food diet, limit yourself to a whole food diet, limit yourself to a whole food diet, limit yourself to four foods, eat those only, and I four foods, eat those only, and I four foods, eat those only, and I guarantee your calories will drop cuz guarantee your calories will drop cuz guarantee your calories will drop cuz it's boring. it's boring. it's boring. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; You just eat less as a result. &gt;&gt; You just eat less as a result. &gt;&gt; You just eat less as a result. &gt;&gt; Well, when you go novelty, you get those &gt;&gt; Well, when you go novelty, you get those &gt;&gt; Well, when you go novelty, you get those fluctuations, too, that Yeah. kind of fluctuations, too, that Yeah. kind of fluctuations, too, that Yeah. kind of throw you all over the place versus throw you all over the place versus throw you all over the place versus Yeah. consistent calorie amount. Yeah. consistent calorie amount. Yeah. consistent calorie amount. &gt;&gt; Yep. All right. I got a study for you &gt;&gt; Yep. All right. I got a study for you &gt;&gt; Yep. All right. I got a study for you guys that might make people angry, but guys that might make people angry, but guys that might make people angry, but whatever. Okay. whatever. Okay. whatever. Okay. &gt;&gt; It's probably It's obvious. I think you &gt;&gt; It's probably It's obvious. I think you &gt;&gt; It's probably It's obvious. I think you guys might find this obvious. So, there guys might find this obvious. So, there guys might find this obvious. So, there was a study that was conducted. They was a study that was conducted. They was a study that was conducted. They analyzed more than 18,000 okaycid users analyzed more than 18,000 okaycid users analyzed more than 18,000 okaycid users &gt;&gt; and they discovered &gt;&gt; and they discovered &gt;&gt; and they discovered &gt;&gt; a dating site Cupid is a dating site. &gt;&gt; a dating site Cupid is a dating site. &gt;&gt; a dating site Cupid is a dating site. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I think. Right. Is that one of the &gt;&gt; Yeah, I think. Right. Is that one of the &gt;&gt; Yeah, I think. Right. Is that one of the ones you're on? ones you're on? ones you're on? &gt;&gt; No, I'm not on that one. &gt;&gt; No, I'm not on that one. &gt;&gt; No, I'm not on that one. &gt;&gt; He knew pretty fast right there. &gt;&gt; He knew pretty fast right there. &gt;&gt; He knew pretty fast right there. &gt;&gt; He was pretty quick to that answer. &gt;&gt; He was pretty quick to that answer. &gt;&gt; He was pretty quick to that answer. &gt;&gt; Yep. Yep. That's right. Google that. &gt;&gt; Yep. Yep. That's right. Google that. &gt;&gt; Yep. Yep. That's right. Google that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Don't look into it though. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Don't look into it though. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Don't look into it though. Don't search Dougy on there. Don't search Dougy on there. Don't search Dougy on there. &gt;&gt; Don't need to search that. He's got a &gt;&gt; Don't need to search that. He's got a &gt;&gt; Don't need to search that. He's got a He's got a secret name on there. He's got a secret name on there. He's got a secret name on there. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That was way too fast, dog. That was way too fast, dog. That was way too fast, dog. &gt;&gt; Hey, Doug. I've heard of these things. &gt;&gt; Hey, Doug. I've heard of these things. &gt;&gt; Hey, Doug. I've heard of these things. I've heard of match.com. Heard of Plenty I've heard of match.com. Heard of Plenty I've heard of match.com. Heard of Plenty of Fish. I've heard of Fish. I've heard of Fish. I've heard &gt;&gt; you knew that Cougar Bar was. I remember &gt;&gt; you knew that Cougar Bar was. I remember &gt;&gt; you knew that Cougar Bar was. I remember that. that. that. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; You knew right away. The Blue Feather. &gt;&gt; You knew right away. The Blue Feather. &gt;&gt; You knew right away. The Blue Feather. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. The cougar bar. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. The cougar bar. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. The cougar bar. Yeah, &gt;&gt; that's a good one. &gt;&gt; that's a good one. &gt;&gt; that's a good one. &gt;&gt; I did know where that one was. Yeah, &gt;&gt; I did know where that one was. Yeah, &gt;&gt; I did know where that one was. Yeah, &gt;&gt; they have a picture that one up there. &gt;&gt; they have a picture that one up there. &gt;&gt; they have a picture that one up there. &gt;&gt; All right. So, so, so is this what this &gt;&gt; All right. So, so, so is this what this &gt;&gt; All right. So, so, so is this what this study 18,000 people they discovered a study 18,000 people they discovered a study 18,000 people they discovered a correlation correlation correlation between unconventional hair colors and between unconventional hair colors and between unconventional hair colors and increased uh reported instances of increased uh reported instances of increased uh reported instances of depression. So, people who tend to dye depression. So, people who tend to dye depression. So, people who tend to dye their hair. their hair. their hair. &gt;&gt; Nice way of you saying blue hair. &gt;&gt; Nice way of you saying blue hair. &gt;&gt; Nice way of you saying blue hair. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You dye your hair. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You dye your hair. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You dye your hair. &gt;&gt; People who tend to dye their hair in &gt;&gt; People who tend to dye their hair in &gt;&gt; People who tend to dye their hair in bold colors, blue, pink, green, purple, bold colors, blue, pink, green, purple, bold colors, blue, pink, green, purple, uh, may be more likely to report mental uh, may be more likely to report mental uh, may be more likely to report mental health struggles. health struggles. health struggles. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, &gt;&gt; I took a study for that. That's a pretty &gt;&gt; I took a study for that. That's a pretty &gt;&gt; I took a study for that. That's a pretty funny thing. funny thing. funny thing. &gt;&gt; Some people offer &gt;&gt; Some people offer &gt;&gt; Some people offer &gt;&gt; I know. You ever seen the meme where &gt;&gt; I know. You ever seen the meme where &gt;&gt; I know. You ever seen the meme where &gt;&gt; is are those uh are those on the rise &gt;&gt; is are those uh are those on the rise &gt;&gt; is are those uh are those on the rise still or do you think they're on the still or do you think they're on the still or do you think they're on the decline? I think they're on the decline. decline? I think they're on the decline. decline? I think they're on the decline. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; Uh dating sites. &gt;&gt; Uh dating sites. &gt;&gt; Uh dating sites. &gt;&gt; Those dating sites. &gt;&gt; Those dating sites. &gt;&gt; Those dating sites. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; They were so popular and they exploded &gt;&gt; They were so popular and they exploded &gt;&gt; They were so popular and they exploded and I think they've slowed down. and I think they've slowed down. and I think they've slowed down. &gt;&gt; Let me see. &gt;&gt; Let me see. &gt;&gt; Let me see. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm looking at Doug cuz I'm like &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm looking at Doug cuz I'm like &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm looking at Doug cuz I'm like you you're the Google guy. you you're the Google guy. you you're the Google guy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; He's looking at now he's pretending like &gt;&gt; He's looking at now he's pretending like &gt;&gt; He's looking at now he's pretending like I don't know. Let me check. I don't know. Let me check. I don't know. Let me check. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. It's like, well, I've been using them It's like, well, I've been using them It's like, well, I've been using them more than ever. more than ever. more than ever. &gt;&gt; That's a great question, Adam. Let me &gt;&gt; That's a great question, Adam. Let me &gt;&gt; That's a great question, Adam. Let me let me Google that. let me Google that. let me Google that. &gt;&gt; He's got stars. &gt;&gt; He's got stars. &gt;&gt; He's got stars. &gt;&gt; Hold on. Let me swipe real quick, &gt;&gt; Hold on. Let me swipe real quick, &gt;&gt; Hold on. Let me swipe real quick, &gt;&gt; dude. &gt;&gt; dude. &gt;&gt; dude. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Are they on Are they becoming more &gt;&gt; Yeah. Are they on Are they becoming more &gt;&gt; Yeah. Are they on Are they becoming more or less popular? or less popular? or less popular? &gt;&gt; I think I think less popular. &gt;&gt; I think I think less popular. &gt;&gt; I think I think less popular. &gt;&gt; Let's see. Yes. &gt;&gt; Let's see. Yes. &gt;&gt; Let's see. Yes. &gt;&gt; Many sites have massive growth. &gt;&gt; Many sites have massive growth. &gt;&gt; Many sites have massive growth. &gt;&gt; Oh, in the past decade. Um, boy, &gt;&gt; Oh, in the past decade. Um, boy, &gt;&gt; Oh, in the past decade. Um, boy, recently. recently. recently. &gt;&gt; Long uh long-term growth grew nearly &gt;&gt; Long uh long-term growth grew nearly &gt;&gt; Long uh long-term growth grew nearly sixfold between 2010 and 2020. sixfold between 2010 and 2020. sixfold between 2010 and 2020. Um uh but there's a recent trend. Wait, Um uh but there's a recent trend. Wait, Um uh but there's a recent trend. Wait, scroll up a little bit. scroll up a little bit. scroll up a little bit. &gt;&gt; You don't like this one? Mhm. &gt;&gt; You don't like this one? Mhm. &gt;&gt; You don't like this one? Mhm. &gt;&gt; No, it says that there was a little &gt;&gt; No, it says that there was a little &gt;&gt; No, it says that there was a little burnout. Uh at the upper of the burnout. Uh at the upper of the burnout. Uh at the upper of the paragraph towards the top, Doug. paragraph towards the top, Doug. paragraph towards the top, Doug. &gt;&gt; Oh, okay. &gt;&gt; Oh, okay. &gt;&gt; Oh, okay. &gt;&gt; Right there it says uh while usage &gt;&gt; Right there it says uh while usage &gt;&gt; Right there it says uh while usage surged during the pandemic and remains surged during the pandemic and remains surged during the pandemic and remains high, recent trends in 2025 suggest high, recent trends in 2025 suggest high, recent trends in 2025 suggest potential user burnout. potential user burnout. potential user burnout. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And a growing desire for alternative &gt;&gt; And a growing desire for alternative &gt;&gt; And a growing desire for alternative inperson. inperson. inperson. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; You know what's happening with &gt;&gt; You know what's happening with &gt;&gt; You know what's happening with also what it's happening is a very small also what it's happening is a very small also what it's happening is a very small percentage of men are getting all the percentage of men are getting all the percentage of men are getting all the attention. Well, that was that I know attention. Well, that was that I know attention. Well, that was that I know we've talked about this already. Like so we've talked about this already. Like so we've talked about this already. Like so we've we've now it's becoming like we've we've now it's becoming like we've we've now it's becoming like polygamy. polygamy. polygamy. &gt;&gt; We've now figured this out that it's I &gt;&gt; We've now figured this out that it's I &gt;&gt; We've now figured this out that it's I forget. I wish that that stat's great. forget. I wish that that stat's great. forget. I wish that that stat's great. &gt;&gt; It's like a high value. &gt;&gt; It's like a high value. &gt;&gt; It's like a high value. &gt;&gt; The the stat on this is insane that I &gt;&gt; The the stat on this is insane that I &gt;&gt; The the stat on this is insane that I saw too, which is like a small saw too, which is like a small saw too, which is like a small percentage of the men get like 80% of percentage of the men get like 80% of percentage of the men get like 80% of the women. the women. the women. &gt;&gt; Well, check this out. So, and this is so &gt;&gt; Well, check this out. So, and this is so &gt;&gt; Well, check this out. So, and this is so when women say what they're looking for. when women say what they're looking for. when women say what they're looking for. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; See, watch this. Doug, look this up. &gt;&gt; See, watch this. Doug, look this up. &gt;&gt; See, watch this. Doug, look this up. What percentage of men just six foot to What percentage of men just six foot to What percentage of men just six foot to start start start &gt;&gt; six foot tall and make and makes make &gt;&gt; six foot tall and make and makes make &gt;&gt; six foot tall and make and makes make $100,000. $100,000. $100,000. &gt;&gt; It's less than 5% &gt;&gt; It's less than 5% &gt;&gt; It's less than 5% &gt;&gt; in America. Watch. &gt;&gt; in America. Watch. &gt;&gt; in America. Watch. &gt;&gt; It's I think it's 4%. &gt;&gt; It's I think it's 4%. &gt;&gt; It's I think it's 4%. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Just that right there. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Just that right there. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Just that right there. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Just that alone. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Just that alone. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Just that alone. &gt;&gt; And then if we add in like &gt;&gt; And then if we add in like &gt;&gt; And then if we add in like &gt;&gt; 15% body fat, you know, it gets down to &gt;&gt; 15% body fat, you know, it gets down to &gt;&gt; 15% body fat, you know, it gets down to like there's like five dudes. like there's like five dudes. like there's like five dudes. &gt;&gt; Let's see what this percentage is. &gt;&gt; Let's see what this percentage is. &gt;&gt; Let's see what this percentage is. &gt;&gt; Have good teeth. &gt;&gt; Have good teeth. &gt;&gt; Have good teeth. &gt;&gt; All right. We're getting an answer here. &gt;&gt; All right. We're getting an answer here. &gt;&gt; All right. We're getting an answer here. 3.6 to 4.5%. So women who are like he's 3.6 to 4.5%. So women who are like he's 3.6 to 4.5%. So women who are like he's got to be 6' tall and make 100 grand, got to be 6' tall and make 100 grand, got to be 6' tall and make 100 grand, you're you're looking at about 4% you're you're looking at about 4% you're you're looking at about 4% &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; of the men. &gt;&gt; of the men. &gt;&gt; of the men. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Which I think that I think that that it &gt;&gt; Which I think that I think that that it &gt;&gt; Which I think that I think that that it coincides with this stat that I was coincides with this stat that I was coincides with this stat that I was going to have Doug look, which is I going to have Doug look, which is I going to have Doug look, which is I think 5% of the men to like date 80% of think 5% of the men to like date 80% of think 5% of the men to like date 80% of the women. the women. the women. &gt;&gt; So top 10 to 20% of men receiving 80% to &gt;&gt; So top 10 to 20% of men receiving 80% to &gt;&gt; So top 10 to 20% of men receiving 80% to 90% of the likes on these type of sites. 90% of the likes on these type of sites. 90% of the likes on these type of sites. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Did I ever tell you guys the the the the &gt;&gt; Did I ever tell you guys the the the the &gt;&gt; Did I ever tell you guys the the the the fail that I did once to my wife cuz I fail that I did once to my wife cuz I fail that I did once to my wife cuz I thought it was going to be funny, but it thought it was going to be funny, but it thought it was going to be funny, but it totally just tanked. Did I tell you totally just tanked. Did I tell you totally just tanked. Did I tell you this? I listed all my stats. this? I listed all my stats. this? I listed all my stats. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; My high body fat, bro. And I said, "What &gt;&gt; My high body fat, bro. And I said, "What &gt;&gt; My high body fat, bro. And I said, "What are the odds?" Like, "Hey, are the odds?" Like, "Hey, are the odds?" Like, "Hey, I had I had layers to that, bro." So, I had I had layers to that, bro." So, I had I had layers to that, bro." So, last last night last last night last last night &gt;&gt; I came home and cooked dinner and then &gt;&gt; I came home and cooked dinner and then &gt;&gt; I came home and cooked dinner and then cleaned the house. Oh, dang. cleaned the house. Oh, dang. cleaned the house. Oh, dang. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Right after that. And then I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Right after that. And then I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Right after that. And then I add to that stat. add to that stat. add to that stat. &gt;&gt; How many guys make this much money this &gt;&gt; How many guys make this much money this &gt;&gt; How many guys make this much money this tall? Do this, cook for you, clean. And tall? Do this, cook for you, clean. And tall? Do this, cook for you, clean. And &gt;&gt; what was the percentage, Adam? Yeah, &gt;&gt; what was the percentage, Adam? Yeah, &gt;&gt; what was the percentage, Adam? Yeah, it's very low, Don. Very, very low. it's very low, Don. Very, very low. it's very low, Don. Very, very low. &gt;&gt; He's lucky. &gt;&gt; He's lucky. &gt;&gt; He's lucky. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you tell that. You're so blessed. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you tell that. You're so blessed. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you tell that. You're so blessed. &gt;&gt; You hit the lottery, man. &gt;&gt; You hit the lottery, man. &gt;&gt; You hit the lottery, man. &gt;&gt; That's how I presented it to you. I &gt;&gt; That's how I presented it to you. I &gt;&gt; That's how I presented it to you. I think I said you're so blessed. think I said you're so blessed. think I said you're so blessed. &gt;&gt; It didn't work, you guys. You didn't &gt;&gt; It didn't work, you guys. You didn't &gt;&gt; It didn't work, you guys. You didn't feel blessed when I said that. feel blessed when I said that. feel blessed when I said that. &gt;&gt; It doesn't work. It doesn't work. &gt;&gt; It doesn't work. It doesn't work. &gt;&gt; It doesn't work. It doesn't work. Anyway, so uh we're we're going to Anyway, so uh we're we're going to Anyway, so uh we're we're going to mention Crisp Power, which uh in the mention Crisp Power, which uh in the mention Crisp Power, which uh in the studio here is that it has to be the studio here is that it has to be the studio here is that it has to be the most commonly used product that we work most commonly used product that we work most commonly used product that we work with, right? I see everybody eating with, right? I see everybody eating with, right? I see everybody eating them. Uh, even amongst the staff, them. Uh, even amongst the staff, them. Uh, even amongst the staff, &gt;&gt; everybody. &gt;&gt; everybody. &gt;&gt; everybody. &gt;&gt; It's got to be Chris Power. &gt;&gt; It's got to be Chris Power. &gt;&gt; It's got to be Chris Power. &gt;&gt; Is that one Dylan eating them? Eli Doug &gt;&gt; Is that one Dylan eating them? Eli Doug &gt;&gt; Is that one Dylan eating them? Eli Doug eats them all the time. eats them all the time. eats them all the time. &gt;&gt; Snackwise. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Snackwise. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Snackwise. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Trainers eat them all the time. &gt;&gt; Trainers eat them all the time. &gt;&gt; Trainers eat them all the time. &gt;&gt; Does Eli eat them? I don't ever see Eli &gt;&gt; Does Eli eat them? I don't ever see Eli &gt;&gt; Does Eli eat them? I don't ever see Eli eat. Does he eat? eat. Does he eat? eat. Does he eat? &gt;&gt; He does eat, dude. &gt;&gt; He does eat, dude. &gt;&gt; He does eat, dude. &gt;&gt; Does he eat? You know, &gt;&gt; Does he eat? You know, &gt;&gt; Does he eat? You know, &gt;&gt; never see him eat. All I see him do is &gt;&gt; never see him eat. All I see him do is &gt;&gt; never see him eat. All I see him do is work. Doug just works very hard. work. Doug just works very hard. work. Doug just works very hard. &gt;&gt; We have to feed him. &gt;&gt; We have to feed him. &gt;&gt; We have to feed him. &gt;&gt; He's very hard working, but Adam will &gt;&gt; He's very hard working, but Adam will &gt;&gt; He's very hard working, but Adam will always make him feel like he needs to always make him feel like he needs to always make him feel like he needs to work hard. work hard. work hard. &gt;&gt; Eli, you work hard enough, bro. &gt;&gt; Eli, you work hard enough, bro. &gt;&gt; Eli, you work hard enough, bro. &gt;&gt; Uh, everybody crushes them &gt;&gt; Uh, everybody crushes them &gt;&gt; Uh, everybody crushes them &gt;&gt; all the time in here. Yeah. All the &gt;&gt; all the time in here. Yeah. All the &gt;&gt; all the time in here. Yeah. All the time. time. time. &gt;&gt; Do you have a favorite? &gt;&gt; Do you have a favorite? &gt;&gt; Do you have a favorite? &gt;&gt; Super convenient. &gt;&gt; Super convenient. &gt;&gt; Super convenient. &gt;&gt; The cheddar. &gt;&gt; The cheddar. &gt;&gt; The cheddar. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're a cheddar guy. Justin, &gt;&gt; Oh, you're a cheddar guy. Justin, &gt;&gt; Oh, you're a cheddar guy. Justin, &gt;&gt; I like cheddar, too. &gt;&gt; I like cheddar, too. &gt;&gt; I like cheddar, too. &gt;&gt; Big cheese guy. Big cheese. &gt;&gt; Big cheese guy. Big cheese. &gt;&gt; Big cheese guy. Big cheese. &gt;&gt; You're still the everything bagel? &gt;&gt; You're still the everything bagel? &gt;&gt; You're still the everything bagel? &gt;&gt; Every like a lot of them, though, dude. &gt;&gt; Every like a lot of them, though, dude. &gt;&gt; Every like a lot of them, though, dude. Uh everything. I like the the uh fire Uh everything. I like the the uh fire Uh everything. I like the the uh fire one. one. one. &gt;&gt; They're 25 to 28 grams of protein in a &gt;&gt; They're 25 to 28 grams of protein in a &gt;&gt; They're 25 to 28 grams of protein in a bag. It's like eating a bag of chips bag. It's like eating a bag of chips bag. It's like eating a bag of chips &gt;&gt; except it's hella protein. &gt;&gt; except it's hella protein. &gt;&gt; except it's hella protein. &gt;&gt; I I honestly I think there's only one &gt;&gt; I I honestly I think there's only one &gt;&gt; I I honestly I think there's only one flavor I don't care that the cinnamon flavor I don't care that the cinnamon flavor I don't care that the cinnamon one's not my favorite. one's not my favorite. one's not my favorite. &gt;&gt; Oh, cuz it's sweet. &gt;&gt; Oh, cuz it's sweet. &gt;&gt; Oh, cuz it's sweet. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it just doesn't to me. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it just doesn't to me. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it just doesn't to me. &gt;&gt; What if you add them to a bowl of milk? &gt;&gt; What if you add them to a bowl of milk? &gt;&gt; What if you add them to a bowl of milk? &gt;&gt; I I thought about that actually the &gt;&gt; I I thought about that actually the &gt;&gt; I I thought about that actually the other day. I thought about that. I other day. I thought about that. I other day. I thought about that. I thought about making a cereal out of it thought about making a cereal out of it thought about making a cereal out of it and seeing what it would taste like. and seeing what it would taste like. and seeing what it would taste like. &gt;&gt; Holy cow, that's delicious. &gt;&gt; Holy cow, that's delicious. &gt;&gt; Holy cow, that's delicious. &gt;&gt; Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. &gt;&gt; Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. &gt;&gt; Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. &gt;&gt; But then it might get soggy. &gt;&gt; But then it might get soggy. &gt;&gt; But then it might get soggy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if those That's a good idea for But I mean, those That's a good idea for But I mean, those That's a good idea for But I mean, considering that how many flavors they considering that how many flavors they considering that how many flavors they have and there's only one that I don't have and there's only one that I don't have and there's only one that I don't like is like is like is &gt;&gt; the flaming ones. I mean, if you go, &gt;&gt; the flaming ones. I mean, if you go, &gt;&gt; the flaming ones. I mean, if you go, they always had those cinnamon and sugar they always had those cinnamon and sugar they always had those cinnamon and sugar uh you know, pretzels. So, I guess that uh you know, pretzels. So, I guess that uh you know, pretzels. So, I guess that was what they were thinking with that was what they were thinking with that was what they were thinking with that one. one. one. &gt;&gt; Did you like it? Do you like the &gt;&gt; Did you like it? Do you like the &gt;&gt; Did you like it? Do you like the cinnamon one? cinnamon one? cinnamon one? &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't mind it. I mean, it's not &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't mind it. I mean, it's not &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't mind it. I mean, it's not not my top one. Definitely cheddar is my not my top one. Definitely cheddar is my not my top one. Definitely cheddar is my top one. I like them if I'm in the mood top one. I like them if I'm in the mood top one. I like them if I'm in the mood for something sweet. for something sweet. for something sweet. &gt;&gt; I know it's not a great commercial for &gt;&gt; I know it's not a great commercial for &gt;&gt; I know it's not a great commercial for them, but what's your least favorite? them, but what's your least favorite? them, but what's your least favorite? You know, like that's I know everything. You know, like that's I know everything. You know, like that's I know everything. &gt;&gt; I'm not a seed guy, so I'm not like the &gt;&gt; I'm not a seed guy, so I'm not like the &gt;&gt; I'm not a seed guy, so I'm not like the &gt;&gt; Oh, I like that. &gt;&gt; Oh, I like that. &gt;&gt; Oh, I like that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, the everything bagel, the cheddar, &gt;&gt; Yeah, the everything bagel, the cheddar, &gt;&gt; Yeah, the everything bagel, the cheddar, and the flaming are and the flaming are and the flaming are &gt;&gt; the sesame seed, too. Sesame is good. &gt;&gt; the sesame seed, too. Sesame is good. &gt;&gt; the sesame seed, too. Sesame is good. &gt;&gt; I like the sesame seed one. So, it's &gt;&gt; I like the sesame seed one. So, it's &gt;&gt; I like the sesame seed one. So, it's only the It's literally only the I think only the It's literally only the I think only the It's literally only the I think it's sesame seed one. it's sesame seed one. it's sesame seed one. &gt;&gt; I thought it was &gt;&gt; I thought it was &gt;&gt; I thought it was &gt;&gt; All right. So, here's a question. &gt;&gt; All right. So, here's a question. &gt;&gt; All right. So, here's a question. &gt;&gt; Here's a question then for you guys, cuz &gt;&gt; Here's a question then for you guys, cuz &gt;&gt; Here's a question then for you guys, cuz you guys eat them the most. you guys eat them the most. you guys eat them the most. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Because it's high in protein, does &gt;&gt; Yeah. Because it's high in protein, does &gt;&gt; Yeah. Because it's high in protein, does it produce more satiety than if you, it produce more satiety than if you, it produce more satiety than if you, let's say, ate a bag of Do you notice let's say, ate a bag of Do you notice let's say, ate a bag of Do you notice it? it? it? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; So, you eat it and you feel I've &gt;&gt; So, you eat it and you feel I've &gt;&gt; So, you eat it and you feel I've actually actually actually a bag I've actually tried eating two a bag I've actually tried eating two a bag I've actually tried eating two bags of it. I don't want to. bags of it. I don't want to. bags of it. I don't want to. &gt;&gt; So, it's because of the protein. &gt;&gt; So, it's because of the protein. &gt;&gt; So, it's because of the protein. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Oh, wow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Oh, wow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Oh, wow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. One's enough where you eat me &gt;&gt; Yeah. One's enough where you eat me &gt;&gt; Yeah. One's enough where you eat me regular pretzels. I could eat a bag regular pretzels. I could eat a bag regular pretzels. I could eat a bag twice that size. Easy. twice that size. Easy. twice that size. Easy. &gt;&gt; Oh, easily. Crush a few bags. &gt;&gt; Oh, easily. Crush a few bags. &gt;&gt; Oh, easily. Crush a few bags. &gt;&gt; What' you pull up there? &gt;&gt; What' you pull up there? &gt;&gt; What' you pull up there? &gt;&gt; Yeah, it is sesame. It is sesame. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it is sesame. It is sesame. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it is sesame. It is sesame. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where I got &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where I got &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I don't know where I got &gt;&gt; Yeah. And how's the fiber in those? &gt;&gt; Yeah. And how's the fiber in those? &gt;&gt; Yeah. And how's the fiber in those? They're pretty good. They're pretty good. They're pretty good. &gt;&gt; Oh, the fiber is uh actually good. is &gt;&gt; Oh, the fiber is uh actually good. is &gt;&gt; Oh, the fiber is uh actually good. is high fiber. It's also high fiber. high fiber. It's also high fiber. high fiber. It's also high fiber. &gt;&gt; They say it's I think I don't recall &gt;&gt; They say it's I think I don't recall &gt;&gt; They say it's I think I don't recall exactly 30% high protein, high fiber, exactly 30% high protein, high fiber, exactly 30% high protein, high fiber, and low carb. and low carb. and low carb. &gt;&gt; I think it's like 30% of your daily &gt;&gt; I think it's like 30% of your daily &gt;&gt; I think it's like 30% of your daily recommended. recommended. recommended. &gt;&gt; Where they're in Costco now, right? Are &gt;&gt; Where they're in Costco now, right? Are &gt;&gt; Where they're in Costco now, right? Are they? they? they? &gt;&gt; Uh yeah, I believe so. &gt;&gt; Uh yeah, I believe so. &gt;&gt; Uh yeah, I believe so. &gt;&gt; That company's crushing. &gt;&gt; That company's crushing. &gt;&gt; That company's crushing. &gt;&gt; Jeez. Oh, they they've blown up. &gt;&gt; Jeez. Oh, they they've blown up. &gt;&gt; Jeez. Oh, they they've blown up. &gt;&gt; They're ever since they they started &gt;&gt; They're ever since they they started &gt;&gt; They're ever since they they started doing commercials with us. doing commercials with us. doing commercials with us. &gt;&gt; That's what we tell them. The mind pump. &gt;&gt; That's what we tell them. The mind pump. &gt;&gt; That's what we tell them. The mind pump. &gt;&gt; 10 grams of fiber. &gt;&gt; 10 grams of fiber. &gt;&gt; 10 grams of fiber. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Of course, it's going to produce &gt;&gt; Of course, it's going to produce &gt;&gt; Of course, it's going to produce satiety. See, this is good because when satiety. See, this is good because when satiety. See, this is good because when you eat a tasty snack, what you don't you eat a tasty snack, what you don't you eat a tasty snack, what you don't want is also just to overeat the hell want is also just to overeat the hell want is also just to overeat the hell out of it. out of it. out of it. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's to increase your cravings. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's to increase your cravings. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's to increase your cravings. &gt;&gt; But this because it's protein and fiber, &gt;&gt; But this because it's protein and fiber, &gt;&gt; But this because it's protein and fiber, you get your protein. you get your protein. you get your protein. &gt;&gt; No, Justin said right. One bag, you're &gt;&gt; No, Justin said right. One bag, you're &gt;&gt; No, Justin said right. One bag, you're good with it. And I I intentionally have good with it. And I I intentionally have good with it. And I I intentionally have tried to eat two like one and I could I tried to eat two like one and I could I tried to eat two like one and I could I could do it if I like make myself do it, could do it if I like make myself do it, could do it if I like make myself do it, but I I don't crave it where other but I I don't crave it where other but I I don't crave it where other snacks like that like snacks like that like snacks like that like &gt;&gt; overeat. &gt;&gt; overeat. &gt;&gt; overeat. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Easily. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Easily. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Easily. &gt;&gt; Wow. That's great. &gt;&gt; Wow. That's great. &gt;&gt; Wow. That's great. &gt;&gt; Mhm. Good job. &gt;&gt; Mhm. Good job. &gt;&gt; Mhm. Good job. &gt;&gt; It's well done. &gt;&gt; It's well done. &gt;&gt; It's well done. 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Find out more at mindpunfitnesscoaching.com. &gt;&gt; Our first caller is Randy from Oklahoma. &gt;&gt; Our first caller is Randy from Oklahoma. &gt;&gt; What's up, Randy? &gt;&gt; What's up, Randy? &gt;&gt; What's up, Randy? &gt;&gt; What's happening? &gt;&gt; What's happening? &gt;&gt; What's happening? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Randy? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Randy? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Randy? &gt;&gt; Mind pump. How are you guys doing? &gt;&gt; Mind pump. How are you guys doing? &gt;&gt; Mind pump. How are you guys doing? &gt;&gt; Good, man. How you doing? &gt;&gt; Good, man. How you doing? &gt;&gt; Good, man. How you doing? &gt;&gt; Good. How can I help you? &gt;&gt; Good. How can I help you? &gt;&gt; Good. How can I help you? &gt;&gt; Good. Hey, I started a gratitude &gt;&gt; Good. Hey, I started a gratitude &gt;&gt; Good. Hey, I started a gratitude practice earlier this year and now I get practice earlier this year and now I get practice earlier this year and now I get a chance to thank you all in person. Uh, a chance to thank you all in person. Uh, a chance to thank you all in person. Uh, really privileged for that. I've been really privileged for that. I've been really privileged for that. I've been trying to lose fat since 2016, as in 10 trying to lose fat since 2016, as in 10 trying to lose fat since 2016, as in 10 years ago, 2016. And it seemed like no years ago, 2016. And it seemed like no years ago, 2016. And it seemed like no matter what I did, no matter who I matter what I did, no matter who I matter what I did, no matter who I followed, I always ended up right back followed, I always ended up right back followed, I always ended up right back where I started, which was just fat and where I started, which was just fat and where I started, which was just fat and weak and frustrated. And I had gotten to weak and frustrated. And I had gotten to weak and frustrated. And I had gotten to the point where I was about to decide the point where I was about to decide the point where I was about to decide that my body was just like impervious to that my body was just like impervious to that my body was just like impervious to exercise until my wife sent me a mind exercise until my wife sent me a mind exercise until my wife sent me a mind pump episode about eight months ago. And pump episode about eight months ago. And pump episode about eight months ago. And after that, I changed up my routine. I after that, I changed up my routine. I after that, I changed up my routine. I dropped the volume, added some rest dropped the volume, added some rest dropped the volume, added some rest periods. Um, I upped my calories by periods. Um, I upped my calories by periods. Um, I upped my calories by about a thousand over the course of like about a thousand over the course of like about a thousand over the course of like uh probably about two weeks. Um, and by uh probably about two weeks. Um, and by uh probably about two weeks. Um, and by week two, I was already seeing some week two, I was already seeing some week two, I was already seeing some changes in my body. Um, after 3 months, changes in my body. Um, after 3 months, changes in my body. Um, after 3 months, my big lifts were up by about 50%. And my big lifts were up by about 50%. And my big lifts were up by about 50%. And now everything is better post Mind Pump. now everything is better post Mind Pump. now everything is better post Mind Pump. So, energy is up, strength is up, I'm So, energy is up, strength is up, I'm So, energy is up, strength is up, I'm 46, and I'm seeing definition for the 46, and I'm seeing definition for the 46, and I'm seeing definition for the first time in my life. And I can't seem first time in my life. And I can't seem first time in my life. And I can't seem to gain weight, which is incredible. So to gain weight, which is incredible. So to gain weight, which is incredible. So that's great, man. Dude, that's great, man. Dude, that's great, man. Dude, &gt;&gt; thank you very much. &gt;&gt; thank you very much. &gt;&gt; thank you very much. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; You got it, dude. What's your question? &gt;&gt; You got it, dude. What's your question? &gt;&gt; You got it, dude. What's your question? How can we help you? How can we help you? How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, when I went through doing all &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, when I went through doing all &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, when I went through doing all these things, following your advice, I I these things, following your advice, I I these things, following your advice, I I figured if I actually buy a maps figured if I actually buy a maps figured if I actually buy a maps program, that, you know, I I'm going to program, that, you know, I I'm going to program, that, you know, I I'm going to start to see, you know, changes that are start to see, you know, changes that are start to see, you know, changes that are going to make me look like a Greek going to make me look like a Greek going to make me look like a Greek statue by the time all this is said and statue by the time all this is said and statue by the time all this is said and done. And so, I bought the MAPS super done. And so, I bought the MAPS super done. And so, I bought the MAPS super bundle uh back in November. I ran bundle uh back in November. I ran bundle uh back in November. I ran anabolic all the way through, uh, anabolic all the way through, uh, anabolic all the way through, uh, trigger sessions and all. And um I was a trigger sessions and all. And um I was a trigger sessions and all. And um I was a little disappointed when all was said little disappointed when all was said little disappointed when all was said and done because it seemed like those and done because it seemed like those and done because it seemed like those body changes stopped all through the body changes stopped all through the body changes stopped all through the program um I took it through and about program um I took it through and about program um I took it through and about halfway through phase three uh my wife halfway through phase three uh my wife halfway through phase three uh my wife was talking to me and she was like you was talking to me and she was like you was talking to me and she was like you know you seem like you were doing a know you seem like you were doing a know you seem like you were doing a little better before which I got to be little better before which I got to be little better before which I got to be honest with you that stung a little bit. honest with you that stung a little bit. honest with you that stung a little bit. Um, and so then after anabolic, I went Um, and so then after anabolic, I went Um, and so then after anabolic, I went back to what I was doing before, um, back to what I was doing before, um, back to what I was doing before, um, which was mostly 3x5 program, uh, six or which was mostly 3x5 program, uh, six or which was mostly 3x5 program, uh, six or seven compound lifts, and then throwing seven compound lifts, and then throwing seven compound lifts, and then throwing in a few like bicep curls, tricep, uh, in a few like bicep curls, tricep, uh, in a few like bicep curls, tricep, uh, tricep exercises, and all of a sudden, tricep exercises, and all of a sudden, tricep exercises, and all of a sudden, those strength gains just exploded those strength gains just exploded those strength gains just exploded again. Uh, body changes started back up again. Uh, body changes started back up again. Uh, body changes started back up again. So, my question for you is, what again. So, my question for you is, what again. So, my question for you is, what the hell? the hell? the hell? &gt;&gt; Yeah. So in your email it says uh you &gt;&gt; Yeah. So in your email it says uh you &gt;&gt; Yeah. So in your email it says uh you also increased your calories uh after also increased your calories uh after also increased your calories uh after following maps anabolic. following maps anabolic. following maps anabolic. &gt;&gt; I did. So I I increased my calories &gt;&gt; I did. So I I increased my calories &gt;&gt; I did. So I I increased my calories before anabolic. Um I was 2400 before I before anabolic. Um I was 2400 before I before anabolic. Um I was 2400 before I started anabolic. Uh by the time I got started anabolic. Uh by the time I got started anabolic. Uh by the time I got to anabolic I was up to about 3,400. Um to anabolic I was up to about 3,400. Um to anabolic I was up to about 3,400. Um and since anabolic I've bumped those and since anabolic I've bumped those and since anabolic I've bumped those calories again. Um at this point I'm calories again. Um at this point I'm calories again. Um at this point I'm actually up to about 4200. Um still actually up to about 4200. Um still actually up to about 4200. Um still can't seem to gain weight. Uh which is can't seem to gain weight. Uh which is can't seem to gain weight. Uh which is is kind of awesome to be honest with is kind of awesome to be honest with is kind of awesome to be honest with you. I I I don't mind that at all. Um you. I I I don't mind that at all. Um you. I I I don't mind that at all. Um and and I'm back to, you know, running and and I'm back to, you know, running and and I'm back to, you know, running those 3x5s. Um here about uh 3 or 4 those 3x5s. Um here about uh 3 or 4 those 3x5s. Um here about uh 3 or 4 weeks ago, I actually moved to um kind weeks ago, I actually moved to um kind weeks ago, I actually moved to um kind of a like a MAPS reverse performance of a like a MAPS reverse performance of a like a MAPS reverse performance anabolic 15. Just kind of something I anabolic 15. Just kind of something I anabolic 15. Just kind of something I put together from various exercises from put together from various exercises from put together from various exercises from your programs. Um and sticking to that your programs. Um and sticking to that your programs. Um and sticking to that 15 to 20 minutes a day. Um and that 15 to 20 minutes a day. Um and that 15 to 20 minutes a day. Um and that seems to to be working well for me as seems to to be working well for me as seems to to be working well for me as well. Um, so pretty much so far well. Um, so pretty much so far well. Um, so pretty much so far everything that I've gleaned from you everything that I've gleaned from you everything that I've gleaned from you except for maps anabolic has done except for maps anabolic has done except for maps anabolic has done wonders for me. wonders for me. wonders for me. &gt;&gt; And you did the I'm assuming you did the &gt;&gt; And you did the I'm assuming you did the &gt;&gt; And you did the I'm assuming you did the three day a week version of maps three day a week version of maps three day a week version of maps anabolic when you followed it. anabolic when you followed it. anabolic when you followed it. &gt;&gt; I did. &gt;&gt; I did. &gt;&gt; I did. &gt;&gt; Yeah. The volume is just too high for &gt;&gt; Yeah. The volume is just too high for &gt;&gt; Yeah. The volume is just too high for you. you. you. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So it sounds like &gt;&gt; So it sounds like &gt;&gt; So it sounds like &gt;&gt; Yeah. For a lot of people uh MAPS &gt;&gt; Yeah. For a lot of people uh MAPS &gt;&gt; Yeah. For a lot of people uh MAPS anabolic is going to be appropriate anabolic is going to be appropriate anabolic is going to be appropriate volume. Uh but sometimes it's too much volume. Uh but sometimes it's too much volume. Uh but sometimes it's too much especially when you get into phases two especially when you get into phases two especially when you get into phases two and three which is probably when you and three which is probably when you and three which is probably when you started to feel uh some of those started to feel uh some of those started to feel uh some of those effects. So phase three. effects. So phase three. effects. So phase three. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Phase three. So, so volume is sets &gt;&gt; Yeah. Phase three. So, so volume is sets &gt;&gt; Yeah. Phase three. So, so volume is sets and sets weight and reps. and sets weight and reps. and sets weight and reps. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, uh, three sets of 20 reps, uh, &gt;&gt; Okay. So, uh, three sets of 20 reps, uh, &gt;&gt; Okay. So, uh, three sets of 20 reps, uh, is typically going to register as more is typically going to register as more is typically going to register as more volume or damage or require more volume or damage or require more volume or damage or require more recovery than three sets of five. And recovery than three sets of five. And recovery than three sets of five. And so, often times, if the volume is too so, often times, if the volume is too so, often times, if the volume is too high, a person will go back down to high, a person will go back down to high, a person will go back down to lower reps, same sets, even though the lower reps, same sets, even though the lower reps, same sets, even though the weight is heavier, and they'll start weight is heavier, and they'll start weight is heavier, and they'll start responding better again. And so now responding better again. And so now responding better again. And so now you're doing something like a couple you're doing something like a couple you're doing something like a couple lifts a day is it sounds like. lifts a day is it sounds like. lifts a day is it sounds like. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So here um about for the last &gt;&gt; Yeah. So here um about for the last &gt;&gt; Yeah. So here um about for the last three weeks or so um I've been doing three weeks or so um I've been doing three weeks or so um I've been doing just a couple lifts a day, sometimes just a couple lifts a day, sometimes just a couple lifts a day, sometimes three um but really no more than 20 three um but really no more than 20 three um but really no more than 20 minutes at the gym and then plus you minutes at the gym and then plus you minutes at the gym and then plus you know doing some um I might step on the know doing some um I might step on the know doing some um I might step on the treadmill or something like that. treadmill or something like that. treadmill or something like that. &gt;&gt; Yep. So now it sounds like you're &gt;&gt; Yep. So now it sounds like you're &gt;&gt; Yep. So now it sounds like you're hitting about appropriate volume. Yeah. hitting about appropriate volume. Yeah. hitting about appropriate volume. Yeah. &gt;&gt; And and just you know I just want to &gt;&gt; And and just you know I just want to &gt;&gt; And and just you know I just want to highlight uh how easy it is highlight uh how easy it is highlight uh how easy it is &gt;&gt; uh to do more than is necessary uh for &gt;&gt; uh to do more than is necessary uh for &gt;&gt; uh to do more than is necessary uh for the body. So even though map's anabolic the body. So even though map's anabolic the body. So even though map's anabolic often times people follow it, love it. often times people follow it, love it. often times people follow it, love it. Um for in in many cases some cases Um for in in many cases some cases Um for in in many cases some cases you'll see especially as people get into you'll see especially as people get into you'll see especially as people get into middle age or if they have other middle age or if they have other middle age or if they have other stresses um like for example I'll have a stresses um like for example I'll have a stresses um like for example I'll have a woman call in and you know she's woman call in and you know she's woman call in and you know she's postpartum uh or somebody's calories are postpartum uh or somebody's calories are postpartum uh or somebody's calories are low or the sleep is a little off or they low or the sleep is a little off or they low or the sleep is a little off or they have other responsibilities we'll send have other responsibilities we'll send have other responsibilities we'll send in MAPS 15 um and they'll get better in MAPS 15 um and they'll get better in MAPS 15 um and they'll get better results. So results. So results. So &gt;&gt; just cur just curious of what the rest &gt;&gt; just cur just curious of what the rest &gt;&gt; just cur just curious of what the rest of your uh what's your day look like? of your uh what's your day look like? of your uh what's your day look like? Are you a pretty busy guy? What's the Are you a pretty busy guy? What's the Are you a pretty busy guy? What's the size? cuz uh the fact that you can eat size? cuz uh the fact that you can eat size? cuz uh the fact that you can eat 4,000 calories and uh train on that 4,000 calories and uh train on that 4,000 calories and uh train on that volume and not put bad weight on is volume and not put bad weight on is volume and not put bad weight on is actually impressive in itself. That's a actually impressive in itself. That's a actually impressive in itself. That's a really good sign. really good sign. really good sign. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I'm uh I'm 6' 237 right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I'm uh I'm 6' 237 right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I'm uh I'm 6' 237 right now. And um that weight has not fluctuated by And um that weight has not fluctuated by And um that weight has not fluctuated by more than about a pound and a half um more than about a pound and a half um more than about a pound and a half um since I I started listening to you all. since I I started listening to you all. since I I started listening to you all. Um, and it seems like I mean, you know, Um, and it seems like I mean, you know, Um, and it seems like I mean, you know, I just keep ramping up those calories up I just keep ramping up those calories up I just keep ramping up those calories up up and I keep thinking I'm going to hit up and I keep thinking I'm going to hit up and I keep thinking I'm going to hit that point where I get on the scale and that point where I get on the scale and that point where I get on the scale and I see the weight actually go up, but it I see the weight actually go up, but it I see the weight actually go up, but it just doesn't move. Um, just doesn't move. Um, just doesn't move. Um, &gt;&gt; I I do get my 220 grams of protein per &gt;&gt; I I do get my 220 grams of protein per &gt;&gt; I I do get my 220 grams of protein per day. Um, I I do creatine. Um, I take day. Um, I I do creatine. Um, I take day. Um, I I do creatine. Um, I take about 13,000 steps per day. Mostly about 13,000 steps per day. Mostly about 13,000 steps per day. Mostly that's that's not related to my work, as that's that's not related to my work, as that's that's not related to my work, as you can see. I'm I'm just in an office you can see. I'm I'm just in an office you can see. I'm I'm just in an office here. Um, but but I do try to get out here. Um, but but I do try to get out here. Um, but but I do try to get out pretty regularly and get those steps in. pretty regularly and get those steps in. pretty regularly and get those steps in. Um, and I get about seven hours of sleep Um, and I get about seven hours of sleep Um, and I get about seven hours of sleep a night. a night. a night. &gt;&gt; That's good. That's good, bro. That's &gt;&gt; That's good. That's good, bro. That's &gt;&gt; That's good. That's good, bro. That's really good. 13,000 steps is a good really good. 13,000 steps is a good really good. 13,000 steps is a good amount of move. You're moving good. amount of move. You're moving good. amount of move. You're moving good. That's good. You're active. The average That's good. You're active. The average That's good. You're active. The average American is only moving 4,000. So there American is only moving 4,000. So there American is only moving 4,000. So there it was like there's you got to be a big it was like there's you got to be a big it was like there's you got to be a big guy and you got to be moving quite a bit guy and you got to be moving quite a bit guy and you got to be moving quite a bit if you're eating 4,000 calories and you if you're eating 4,000 calories and you if you're eating 4,000 calories and you don't see that scale move. That's a don't see that scale move. That's a don't see that scale move. That's a really good sign. really good sign. really good sign. &gt;&gt; What are the lifts that you cuz you How &gt;&gt; What are the lifts that you cuz you How &gt;&gt; What are the lifts that you cuz you How long have you been doing uh like long have you been doing uh like long have you been doing uh like consistently strength training now where consistently strength training now where consistently strength training now where you're seeing like good progress and you're seeing like good progress and you're seeing like good progress and feel like you're doing things right? feel like you're doing things right? feel like you're doing things right? &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, uh, strength training as you &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, uh, strength training as you &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, uh, strength training as you would define it would be since I, um, would define it would be since I, um, would define it would be since I, um, started listening to Mind Pump in started listening to Mind Pump in started listening to Mind Pump in August. Um, so this has only been for August. Um, so this has only been for August. Um, so this has only been for for 8 months for me. for 8 months for me. for 8 months for me. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. &gt;&gt; Uh, before that, I I definitely did, um, &gt;&gt; Uh, before that, I I definitely did, um, &gt;&gt; Uh, before that, I I definitely did, um, you know, a lot of programs where I was you know, a lot of programs where I was you know, a lot of programs where I was lifting weights, uh, but never anything lifting weights, uh, but never anything lifting weights, uh, but never anything with more than um, 60 to 90 seconds of with more than um, 60 to 90 seconds of with more than um, 60 to 90 seconds of rest. rest. rest. &gt;&gt; And, you know, when I started to add &gt;&gt; And, you know, when I started to add &gt;&gt; And, you know, when I started to add that 3 minutes of rest, it it was like that 3 minutes of rest, it it was like that 3 minutes of rest, it it was like magic. It was just awesome. magic. It was just awesome. magic. It was just awesome. &gt;&gt; And it seems like anytime I go away from &gt;&gt; And it seems like anytime I go away from &gt;&gt; And it seems like anytime I go away from that 3 minutes, then, you know, things that 3 minutes, then, you know, things that 3 minutes, then, you know, things just don't quite work out. just don't quite work out. just don't quite work out. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. you building uh I mean &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. you building uh I mean &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. you building uh I mean you're building your metabolism. This is you're building your metabolism. This is you're building your metabolism. This is a great example of how that works. a great example of how that works. a great example of how that works. &gt;&gt; Um so the reason why I asked you that is &gt;&gt; Um so the reason why I asked you that is &gt;&gt; Um so the reason why I asked you that is and give me an idea of what your what and give me an idea of what your what and give me an idea of what your what your your lifts look like now. Uh like your your lifts look like now. Uh like your your lifts look like now. Uh like your squat, deadlift, and bench because your squat, deadlift, and bench because your squat, deadlift, and bench because I have some ideas for you. I have some ideas for you. I have some ideas for you. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So my um so I I don't really try &gt;&gt; Yeah. So my um so I I don't really try &gt;&gt; Yeah. So my um so I I don't really try to do PR for single rep, but um I I have to do PR for single rep, but um I I have to do PR for single rep, but um I I have tried to do um like some 3x5s and things tried to do um like some 3x5s and things tried to do um like some 3x5s and things like that to to check. U my deadlift I like that to to check. U my deadlift I like that to to check. U my deadlift I can do 285 on a 3x5. Um, my squat is, can do 285 on a 3x5. Um, my squat is, can do 285 on a 3x5. Um, my squat is, uh, I think up at 235, it's up to 255 uh, I think up at 235, it's up to 255 uh, I think up at 235, it's up to 255 now. now. now. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; And chest press at 180. Um, all those &gt;&gt; And chest press at 180. Um, all those &gt;&gt; And chest press at 180. Um, all those are the the 3x5s. are the the 3x5s. are the the 3x5s. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Good, &gt;&gt; Perfect. Good, &gt;&gt; Perfect. Good, &gt;&gt; bro. You're moving good weight, too. &gt;&gt; bro. You're moving good weight, too. &gt;&gt; bro. You're moving good weight, too. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, here's what I'm going to &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, here's what I'm going to &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, here's what I'm going to encourage you to do now. So, now you're encourage you to do now. So, now you're encourage you to do now. So, now you're going to start to get into soon uh going to start to get into soon uh going to start to get into soon uh you're going to get into a place where you're going to get into a place where you're going to get into a place where you start to notice a little bit of you start to notice a little bit of you start to notice a little bit of nagging uh inflammation or injury nagging uh inflammation or injury nagging uh inflammation or injury because the the you're getting so because the the you're getting so because the the you're getting so strong. You've been so consistent, but strong. You've been so consistent, but strong. You've been so consistent, but the movements that you're doing are very the movements that you're doing are very the movements that you're doing are very sagittal plane. sagittal plane. sagittal plane. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And so, be taxing. Yeah. And so what'll &gt;&gt; And so, be taxing. Yeah. And so what'll &gt;&gt; And so, be taxing. Yeah. And so what'll happen, you'll keep getting stronger, happen, you'll keep getting stronger, happen, you'll keep getting stronger, but you'll start to notice like, ah, but you'll start to notice like, ah, but you'll start to notice like, ah, this kind of hurts a little bit. Maybe I this kind of hurts a little bit. Maybe I this kind of hurts a little bit. Maybe I need to warm up more or something like need to warm up more or something like need to warm up more or something like that. So, it'd be really smart for you that. So, it'd be really smart for you that. So, it'd be really smart for you at this point to uh train different at this point to uh train different at this point to uh train different planes of movement. So like maps 15 planes of movement. So like maps 15 planes of movement. So like maps 15 performance would be a really good idea performance would be a really good idea performance would be a really good idea &gt;&gt; to follow to interrupt kind of what &gt;&gt; to follow to interrupt kind of what &gt;&gt; to follow to interrupt kind of what you're doing just to get ahead of you're doing just to get ahead of you're doing just to get ahead of because you're getting really strong and because you're getting really strong and because you're getting really strong and you're probably you're probably going to you're probably you're probably going to you're probably you're probably going to end up somewhere end up somewhere end up somewhere &gt;&gt; you know five reps you know deadlift 285 &gt;&gt; you know five reps you know deadlift 285 &gt;&gt; you know five reps you know deadlift 285 you're probably end up somewhere around you're probably end up somewhere around you're probably end up somewhere around 350 which is really strong but before 350 which is really strong but before 350 which is really strong but before you get there it's really important we you get there it's really important we you get there it's really important we work on rotation lateral stability work on rotation lateral stability work on rotation lateral stability because the stronger you get the greater because the stronger you get the greater because the stronger you get the greater the risk of injury when you move outside the risk of injury when you move outside the risk of injury when you move outside of perfect form even if it's just half a of perfect form even if it's just half a of perfect form even if it's just half a degree. Mhm. degree. Mhm. degree. Mhm. &gt;&gt; Uh so this is &gt;&gt; Uh so this is &gt;&gt; Uh so this is &gt;&gt; and I have tried to sorry I I have tried &gt;&gt; and I have tried to sorry I I have tried &gt;&gt; and I have tried to sorry I I have tried to pull in um some exercises from to pull in um some exercises from to pull in um some exercises from performance as well. So I've got uh some performance as well. So I've got uh some performance as well. So I've got uh some some chops in the routine um uh suitcase some chops in the routine um uh suitcase some chops in the routine um uh suitcase carries um windmills and and trying to carries um windmills and and trying to carries um windmills and and trying to you know add those additional things. Um you know add those additional things. Um you know add those additional things. Um I don't have access to a sled. So um I don't have access to a sled. So um I don't have access to a sled. So um that that's been unfortunate. Those that that's been unfortunate. Those that that's been unfortunate. Those those ones you just named are great those ones you just named are great those ones you just named are great movements for you to continue to do. movements for you to continue to do. movements for you to continue to do. &gt;&gt; And how often do you train those or how &gt;&gt; And how often do you train those or how &gt;&gt; And how often do you train those or how consistent are they in your routine? consistent are they in your routine? consistent are they in your routine? Uh I do them uh two days a week. So when Uh I do them uh two days a week. So when Uh I do them uh two days a week. So when I do the three exercises, um one of I do the three exercises, um one of I do the three exercises, um one of those is going to be one of those uh those is going to be one of those uh those is going to be one of those uh rotational rotational rotational &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's great. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's great. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's great. &gt;&gt; Okay, that's great. That's great. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Okay, that's great. That's great. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Okay, that's great. That's great. Yeah, you keep progressing that windmill and you keep progressing that windmill and you keep progressing that windmill and you keep doing those like that's you keep doing those like that's you keep doing those like that's &gt;&gt; Don't stop doing those. &gt;&gt; Don't stop doing those. &gt;&gt; Don't stop doing those. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, you're doing good, bro. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, you're doing good, bro. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, you're doing good, bro. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing really good. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing really good. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing really good. &gt;&gt; I like what you're doing. &gt;&gt; I like what you're doing. &gt;&gt; I like what you're doing. &gt;&gt; Stay on path and uh when you get up to a &gt;&gt; Stay on path and uh when you get up to a &gt;&gt; Stay on path and uh when you get up to a point where you're like, man, there's a point where you're like, man, there's a point where you're like, man, there's a lot of food. lot of food. lot of food. &gt;&gt; Uh you could try cutting and what you'll &gt;&gt; Uh you could try cutting and what you'll &gt;&gt; Uh you could try cutting and what you'll probably see is some really good fat probably see is some really good fat probably see is some really good fat loss. loss. loss. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm getting close. I I'm getting &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm getting close. I I'm getting &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm getting close. I I'm getting it's it's becoming a bit of a chore. Um it's it's becoming a bit of a chore. Um it's it's becoming a bit of a chore. Um at 4200 at 4200 at 4200 &gt;&gt; such a good place. That's the ideal &gt;&gt; such a good place. That's the ideal &gt;&gt; such a good place. That's the ideal place I want when I want to cut. I want place I want when I want to cut. I want place I want when I want to cut. I want Clyde to be like, I can't eat anymore, Clyde to be like, I can't eat anymore, Clyde to be like, I can't eat anymore, Adam. Cool. Adam. Cool. Adam. Cool. &gt;&gt; Go down to 3500 and just watch yourself &gt;&gt; Go down to 3500 and just watch yourself &gt;&gt; Go down to 3500 and just watch yourself lean out. lean out. lean out. &gt;&gt; Exactly. You get up to 4200 and you're &gt;&gt; Exactly. You get up to 4200 and you're &gt;&gt; Exactly. You get up to 4200 and you're like, "Okay, I'm good now." like, "Okay, I'm good now." like, "Okay, I'm good now." &gt;&gt; Drop to 3500 and watch fat just fall off &gt;&gt; Drop to 3500 and watch fat just fall off &gt;&gt; Drop to 3500 and watch fat just fall off your body. your body. your body. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Do you have I can't wait. &gt;&gt; Do you have I can't wait. &gt;&gt; Do you have I can't wait. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I feel like to Okay. Do you have &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I feel like to Okay. Do you have &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I feel like to Okay. Do you have our 15 program? I feel like we should our 15 program? I feel like we should our 15 program? I feel like we should give you a powerlift 15 and then and give you a powerlift 15 and then and give you a powerlift 15 and then and perform just so you can toggle between perform just so you can toggle between perform just so you can toggle between the two cuz you're kind of doing that on the two cuz you're kind of doing that on the two cuz you're kind of doing that on your own like intuitively. You're kind your own like intuitively. You're kind your own like intuitively. You're kind of mashing it together, but we've we've of mashing it together, but we've we've of mashing it together, but we've we've put that together almost exactly like put that together almost exactly like put that together almost exactly like you're describing. you're describing. you're describing. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I I would I think it'd be really &gt;&gt; Yeah, I I would I think it'd be really &gt;&gt; Yeah, I I would I think it'd be really smart to follow to follow. We'll send smart to follow to follow. We'll send smart to follow to follow. We'll send we'll send that to you. we'll send that to you. we'll send that to you. &gt;&gt; We'll send that to you. &gt;&gt; We'll send that to you. &gt;&gt; We'll send that to you. &gt;&gt; Send them both power lift. Send them &gt;&gt; Send them both power lift. Send them &gt;&gt; Send them both power lift. Send them both power lift 15 and then the both power lift 15 and then the both power lift 15 and then the performance 15. performance 15. performance 15. &gt;&gt; Be correct volume. And I think Yeah, &gt;&gt; Be correct volume. And I think Yeah, &gt;&gt; Be correct volume. And I think Yeah, it'll just keep you going strong here. it'll just keep you going strong here. it'll just keep you going strong here. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Power lift is really exciting &gt;&gt; Yeah. Power lift is really exciting &gt;&gt; Yeah. Power lift is really exciting because I I've gotten to where I'm, you because I I've gotten to where I'm, you because I I've gotten to where I'm, you know, I'm focused more on the the actual know, I'm focused more on the the actual know, I'm focused more on the the actual lifts and the numbers from the lifts and lifts and the numbers from the lifts and lifts and the numbers from the lifts and I really have gotten to where I just I really have gotten to where I just I really have gotten to where I just don't care about other things. I don't don't care about other things. I don't don't care about other things. I don't really care about the mirror, the scale. really care about the mirror, the scale. really care about the mirror, the scale. Um, that that has been a huge change for Um, that that has been a huge change for Um, that that has been a huge change for me and it's been great. So, powerlift is me and it's been great. So, powerlift is me and it's been great. So, powerlift is going to be awesome. going to be awesome. going to be awesome. &gt;&gt; That's awesome, man. You hit the sweet &gt;&gt; That's awesome, man. You hit the sweet &gt;&gt; That's awesome, man. You hit the sweet spot. spot. spot. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing great, bro. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing great, bro. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing great, bro. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. The only mistake you can &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. The only mistake you can &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. The only mistake you can make is if you do too much make is if you do too much make is if you do too much &gt;&gt; uh which your body, dude, &gt;&gt; uh which your body, dude, &gt;&gt; uh which your body, dude, &gt;&gt; keep it up, Randy. &gt;&gt; keep it up, Randy. &gt;&gt; keep it up, Randy. &gt;&gt; All right. Thanks, Jens. &gt;&gt; All right. Thanks, Jens. &gt;&gt; All right. Thanks, Jens. &gt;&gt; You got it, man. &gt;&gt; You got it, man. &gt;&gt; You got it, man. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's great. &gt;&gt; He's crushing it. &gt;&gt; He's crushing it. &gt;&gt; He's crushing it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's really great. Uh I mean it's &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's really great. Uh I mean it's &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's really great. Uh I mean it's a good conversation around volume a good conversation around volume a good conversation around volume because um when I was younger, I thought because um when I was younger, I thought because um when I was younger, I thought all I considered volume was sets. all I considered volume was sets. all I considered volume was sets. &gt;&gt; So if I'm doing three sets, if I'm doing &gt;&gt; So if I'm doing three sets, if I'm doing &gt;&gt; So if I'm doing three sets, if I'm doing three sets, I'm doing three sets, it's three sets, I'm doing three sets, it's three sets, I'm doing three sets, it's all the same volume. No, it's not. all the same volume. No, it's not. all the same volume. No, it's not. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I didn't factor in the load &gt;&gt; Yeah. I didn't factor in the load &gt;&gt; Yeah. I didn't factor in the load &gt;&gt; or the reps. Like you do three sets of &gt;&gt; or the reps. Like you do three sets of &gt;&gt; or the reps. Like you do three sets of at the same intensity, right? So we're at the same intensity, right? So we're at the same intensity, right? So we're talking about like within a few reps of talking about like within a few reps of talking about like within a few reps of failure. failure. failure. &gt;&gt; Three sets of five in squats or three &gt;&gt; Three sets of five in squats or three &gt;&gt; Three sets of five in squats or three sets of 20 at squats. Okay. the 20 way sets of 20 at squats. Okay. the 20 way sets of 20 at squats. Okay. the 20 way more damage uh on the body requires way more damage uh on the body requires way more damage uh on the body requires way more recovery. It's just very different more recovery. It's just very different more recovery. It's just very different &gt;&gt; uh because those reps count when it &gt;&gt; uh because those reps count when it &gt;&gt; uh because those reps count when it comes to volume. So um and MAP's comes to volume. So um and MAP's comes to volume. So um and MAP's anabolic phase three uh the r the volume anabolic phase three uh the r the volume anabolic phase three uh the r the volume actually is quite high for a lot of actually is quite high for a lot of actually is quite high for a lot of people. So sometimes people like man I people. So sometimes people like man I people. So sometimes people like man I love phase one phase two was great phase love phase one phase two was great phase love phase one phase two was great phase three I start to feel burnt out. three I start to feel burnt out. three I start to feel burnt out. &gt;&gt; Also in the context of where he was at &gt;&gt; Also in the context of where he was at &gt;&gt; Also in the context of where he was at calorie-wise it's obvious that he's a calorie-wise it's obvious that he's a calorie-wise it's obvious that he's a big guy. He moves a lot. 13,000 steps big guy. He moves a lot. 13,000 steps big guy. He moves a lot. 13,000 steps for a 6 foot2 230 pound guy is a lot of for a 6 foot2 230 pound guy is a lot of for a 6 foot2 230 pound guy is a lot of movement. movement. movement. &gt;&gt; So that's a lot that's a lot of movement &gt;&gt; So that's a lot that's a lot of movement &gt;&gt; So that's a lot that's a lot of movement and and his size that low of calorie and and his size that low of calorie and and his size that low of calorie just wasn't and that high of volume just wasn't and that high of volume just wasn't and that high of volume wasn't serving him whatsoever. So just wasn't serving him whatsoever. So just wasn't serving him whatsoever. So just cutting back down on the volume a tiny cutting back down on the volume a tiny cutting back down on the volume a tiny bit boosting calories and then boom all bit boosting calories and then boom all bit boosting calories and then boom all a sudden he sees a response he and to be a sudden he sees a response he and to be a sudden he sees a response he and to be able to be eating 4,000 calories not able to be eating 4,000 calories not able to be eating 4,000 calories not putting body fat on is a and freaking putting body fat on is a and freaking putting body fat on is a and freaking awesome. You know what's really awesome. You know what's really awesome. You know what's really interesting too? This is just a little interesting too? This is just a little interesting too? This is just a little side note here. Um there are some people side note here. Um there are some people side note here. Um there are some people that respond exceptionally well to that respond exceptionally well to that respond exceptionally well to really low volume. Like one of my really low volume. Like one of my really low volume. Like one of my favorite examples favorite examples favorite examples &gt;&gt; uh was six time Mr. Olympia Dorian Y. &gt;&gt; uh was six time Mr. Olympia Dorian Y. &gt;&gt; uh was six time Mr. Olympia Dorian Y. Here's a pro bodybuilder. Here's a pro bodybuilder. Here's a pro bodybuilder. &gt;&gt; He won to Mr. Olympia six times. He's &gt;&gt; He won to Mr. Olympia six times. He's &gt;&gt; He won to Mr. Olympia six times. He's also all uh on performance-enhancing also all uh on performance-enhancing also all uh on performance-enhancing drugs. And he goes from I don't remember drugs. And he goes from I don't remember drugs. And he goes from I don't remember what year it was 1998 maybe Mr. Olympia what year it was 1998 maybe Mr. Olympia what year it was 1998 maybe Mr. Olympia where he took second place Lee Haney. I where he took second place Lee Haney. I where he took second place Lee Haney. I think it was 98. and this and then he think it was 98. and this and then he think it was 98. and this and then he comes back 15 pounds heavier. What he comes back 15 pounds heavier. What he comes back 15 pounds heavier. What he changed and everybody thought he did changed and everybody thought he did changed and everybody thought he did this crazy drug cocktails. No, that's this crazy drug cocktails. No, that's this crazy drug cocktails. No, that's not what happened. What happened was he not what happened. What happened was he not what happened. What happened was he went from traditional strength training went from traditional strength training went from traditional strength training to one set to failure to one set to failure to one set to failure &gt;&gt; like the lowest volume you could &gt;&gt; like the lowest volume you could &gt;&gt; like the lowest volume you could possibly do and his body responded possibly do and his body responded possibly do and his body responded tremendously and there are people like tremendously and there are people like tremendously and there are people like this. Now this is most people aren't this. Now this is most people aren't this. Now this is most people aren't like this where they just go lower lower like this where they just go lower lower like this where they just go lower lower volume volume volume &gt;&gt; at some point you you need certain &gt;&gt; at some point you you need certain &gt;&gt; at some point you you need certain amount of volume but some people just do amount of volume but some people just do amount of volume but some people just do really well with the lower volume and really well with the lower volume and really well with the lower volume and it's it's really interesting that it's it's really interesting that it's it's really interesting that individ individual variance will always individ individual variance will always individ individual variance will always be a wrench. be a wrench. be a wrench. &gt;&gt; Yep. And what always a factor I would &gt;&gt; Yep. And what always a factor I would &gt;&gt; Yep. And what always a factor I would argue more people especially in the argue more people especially in the argue more people especially in the context of how rare it is that we all context of how rare it is that we all context of how rare it is that we all get perfect sleep how rare it is that get perfect sleep how rare it is that get perfect sleep how rare it is that like we have no sleep it's lower than like we have no sleep it's lower than like we have no sleep it's lower than they think they think they think &gt;&gt; it's lower than you think I think more &gt;&gt; it's lower than you think I think more &gt;&gt; it's lower than you think I think more people people people &gt;&gt; totally &gt;&gt; totally &gt;&gt; totally &gt;&gt; if you if you put more energy and effort &gt;&gt; if you if you put more energy and effort &gt;&gt; if you if you put more energy and effort on nutrition dial good sleep you could on nutrition dial good sleep you could on nutrition dial good sleep you could get away with very low volume of get away with very low volume of get away with very low volume of training and probably see incredible training and probably see incredible training and probably see incredible results. Our next callers are Melissa results. Our next callers are Melissa results. Our next callers are Melissa and Eastston from Minnesota. and Eastston from Minnesota. and Eastston from Minnesota. &gt;&gt; What's up guys? What's happening? &gt;&gt; What's up guys? What's happening? &gt;&gt; What's up guys? What's happening? Hello. Hello. Hello. &gt;&gt; How you doing? &gt;&gt; How you doing? &gt;&gt; How you doing? &gt;&gt; Uh, I'm just going to read uh and &gt;&gt; Uh, I'm just going to read uh and &gt;&gt; Uh, I'm just going to read uh and shorten this off because I'm shorten my shorten this off because I'm shorten my shorten this off because I'm shorten my uh email because I'm a little nervous. uh email because I'm a little nervous. uh email because I'm a little nervous. So, I'm just going to read it. So, I'm just going to read it. So, I'm just going to read it. &gt;&gt; No worries. &gt;&gt; No worries. &gt;&gt; No worries. &gt;&gt; Uh, first uh this is my son Eastston. &gt;&gt; Uh, first uh this is my son Eastston. &gt;&gt; Uh, first uh this is my son Eastston. He's 13. He's here with me. He's 13. He's here with me. He's 13. He's here with me. &gt;&gt; How you doing, E? &gt;&gt; How you doing, E? &gt;&gt; How you doing, E? &gt;&gt; Against his will. A little bit against &gt;&gt; Against his will. A little bit against &gt;&gt; Against his will. A little bit against his will, but his will, but his will, but &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Uh, first, I just want to thank you guys &gt;&gt; Uh, first, I just want to thank you guys &gt;&gt; Uh, first, I just want to thank you guys for all you do. Uh, you've changed how I for all you do. Uh, you've changed how I for all you do. Uh, you've changed how I think about my health and wellness, but think about my health and wellness, but think about my health and wellness, but I also love how you talk about family I also love how you talk about family I also love how you talk about family and friends and faith. And I love that and friends and faith. And I love that and friends and faith. And I love that my son can hear other positive my son can hear other positive my son can hear other positive influences besides his crazy parents influences besides his crazy parents influences besides his crazy parents about how he can live a an positive about how he can live a an positive about how he can live a an positive life. So, thank you guys very much. life. So, thank you guys very much. life. So, thank you guys very much. &gt;&gt; There you got it. All right. &gt;&gt; There you got it. All right. &gt;&gt; There you got it. All right. &gt;&gt; All right. So, I'm 44 and I'm looking &gt;&gt; All right. So, I'm 44 and I'm looking &gt;&gt; All right. So, I'm 44 and I'm looking for a program that we can do together for a program that we can do together for a program that we can do together this summer. Um, as a punishment for this summer. Um, as a punishment for this summer. Um, as a punishment for having his phone in his room, um, we having his phone in his room, um, we having his phone in his room, um, we decided to make Eastston do a decided to make Eastston do a decided to make Eastston do a weightlifting class at school, which weightlifting class at school, which weightlifting class at school, which turned out he loved and we kind of turned out he loved and we kind of turned out he loved and we kind of expected that he would love it. Um, he expected that he would love it. Um, he expected that he would love it. Um, he is now doing track and field and he is now doing track and field and he is now doing track and field and he misses lifting. He wishes he was still misses lifting. He wishes he was still misses lifting. He wishes he was still lifting. So, we're making plans for the lifting. So, we're making plans for the lifting. So, we're making plans for the summer. Um, he loves to come home after summer. Um, he loves to come home after summer. Um, he loves to come home after he was doing weightlifting and tell me he was doing weightlifting and tell me he was doing weightlifting and tell me how he would beat my PRs. Um, how he would beat my PRs. Um, how he would beat my PRs. Um, &gt;&gt; I maybe have a year of being stronger &gt;&gt; I maybe have a year of being stronger &gt;&gt; I maybe have a year of being stronger than him before he passes me and than him before he passes me and than him before he passes me and everything, but he's getting close. I'm everything, but he's getting close. I'm everything, but he's getting close. I'm a member of a cardio kickboxing gym that a member of a cardio kickboxing gym that a member of a cardio kickboxing gym that also does weightlifting, but after also does weightlifting, but after also does weightlifting, but after listening to you guys, I realized it's listening to you guys, I realized it's listening to you guys, I realized it's more circuit training with weights. And more circuit training with weights. And more circuit training with weights. And so I've been supplementing with real so I've been supplementing with real so I've been supplementing with real lifting according to you guys um at the lifting according to you guys um at the lifting according to you guys um at the big box gym for a few months and I just big box gym for a few months and I just big box gym for a few months and I just finished phase one of Matt's 15 which I finished phase one of Matt's 15 which I finished phase one of Matt's 15 which I love. Um I still go to the kickboxing love. Um I still go to the kickboxing love. Um I still go to the kickboxing gym but this summer I want to take a gym but this summer I want to take a gym but this summer I want to take a couple days where he and I go to go to couple days where he and I go to go to couple days where he and I go to go to the big box gym and um at least work out the big box gym and um at least work out the big box gym and um at least work out next to him because who works out with next to him because who works out with next to him because who works out with their mom? their mom? their mom? &gt;&gt; So do you have any recommendations for a &gt;&gt; So do you have any recommendations for a &gt;&gt; So do you have any recommendations for a program that we could do together? program that we could do together? program that we could do together? &gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. And you're so you're &gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. And you're so you're &gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. And you're so you're going to be going to a gym to do this going to be going to a gym to do this going to be going to a gym to do this and you want to go about two three days and you want to go about two three days and you want to go about two three days a week. a week. a week. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Is what you're look for if not more. &gt;&gt; Is what you're look for if not more. &gt;&gt; Is what you're look for if not more. &gt;&gt; If not more. &gt;&gt; If not more. &gt;&gt; If not more. &gt;&gt; Oh, you'll go more. Okay. &gt;&gt; Oh, you'll go more. Okay. &gt;&gt; Oh, you'll go more. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's good, man. And uh and just &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's good, man. And uh and just &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's good, man. And uh and just the East, Good job, dude. Working out the East, Good job, dude. Working out the East, Good job, dude. Working out with your mom, bro. with your mom, bro. with your mom, bro. &gt;&gt; That's great. Uh you're a good kid. &gt;&gt; That's great. Uh you're a good kid. &gt;&gt; That's great. Uh you're a good kid. Yeah. Good young man. Okay. So, Yeah. Good young man. Okay. So, Yeah. Good young man. Okay. So, &gt;&gt; uh you you guys now are you going to &gt;&gt; uh you you guys now are you going to &gt;&gt; uh you you guys now are you going to keep doing a bunch of cardio kickboxing keep doing a bunch of cardio kickboxing keep doing a bunch of cardio kickboxing stuff or are you going to focus on the stuff or are you going to focus on the stuff or are you going to focus on the strength training because I need to know strength training because I need to know strength training because I need to know what what the balance is going to be. what what the balance is going to be. what what the balance is going to be. &gt;&gt; I'm I'm in a contract at that gym &gt;&gt; I'm I'm in a contract at that gym &gt;&gt; I'm I'm in a contract at that gym through the end of the year. So, I still through the end of the year. So, I still through the end of the year. So, I still want to do that a couple three days a want to do that a couple three days a want to do that a couple three days a week maybe, but I I'm not sure whether week maybe, but I I'm not sure whether week maybe, but I I'm not sure whether to skip the kickboxing days or skip to skip the kickboxing days or skip to skip the kickboxing days or skip their weight training days when I go, their weight training days when I go, their weight training days when I go, but the priority will be um to go with but the priority will be um to go with but the priority will be um to go with him. him. him. &gt;&gt; Okay? Cuz that makes a big difference &gt;&gt; Okay? Cuz that makes a big difference &gt;&gt; Okay? Cuz that makes a big difference cuz uh I'd like to put you on a strength cuz uh I'd like to put you on a strength cuz uh I'd like to put you on a strength training program that's really going to training program that's really going to training program that's really going to make you guys strong, but I'm going to make you guys strong, but I'm going to make you guys strong, but I'm going to need you to not add a bunch of other need you to not add a bunch of other need you to not add a bunch of other intense stuff. So, it would be ideal if intense stuff. So, it would be ideal if intense stuff. So, it would be ideal if you skipped all of it, but I don't know you skipped all of it, but I don't know you skipped all of it, but I don't know what your community is like there, if it what your community is like there, if it what your community is like there, if it feeds your soul or if you just like the feeds your soul or if you just like the feeds your soul or if you just like the workouts or you don't want to waste the workouts or you don't want to waste the workouts or you don't want to waste the money. Uh, cuz that makes a big money. Uh, cuz that makes a big money. Uh, cuz that makes a big difference. difference. difference. &gt;&gt; I do go with a couple of my best &gt;&gt; I do go with a couple of my best &gt;&gt; I do go with a couple of my best friends. Um, it's a really really good friends. Um, it's a really really good friends. Um, it's a really really good community. I'm a stay-at-home mom, so it community. I'm a stay-at-home mom, so it community. I'm a stay-at-home mom, so it kind of feeds that too. kind of feeds that too. kind of feeds that too. &gt;&gt; Okay, that's good. &gt;&gt; Okay, that's good. &gt;&gt; Okay, that's good. &gt;&gt; Um, no, that's enough. That's enough. I &gt;&gt; Um, no, that's enough. That's enough. I &gt;&gt; Um, no, that's enough. That's enough. I like maps anabolic. like maps anabolic. like maps anabolic. &gt;&gt; Why? I like 15. &gt;&gt; Why? I like 15. &gt;&gt; Why? I like 15. &gt;&gt; Mass 15 is a lot in the gym. They're &gt;&gt; Mass 15 is a lot in the gym. They're &gt;&gt; Mass 15 is a lot in the gym. They're only going to go two days a week or only going to go two days a week or only going to go two days a week or three days a week. stack the days. three days a week. stack the days. three days a week. stack the days. &gt;&gt; I mean, you could do that, too. Very, &gt;&gt; I mean, you could do that, too. Very, &gt;&gt; I mean, you could do that, too. Very, it's very similar. it's very similar. it's very similar. &gt;&gt; Maps 15. What I like about maps 15 is if &gt;&gt; Maps 15. What I like about maps 15 is if &gt;&gt; Maps 15. What I like about maps 15 is if you go that more than three days like E you go that more than three days like E you go that more than three days like E says he might you follow it as it's laid says he might you follow it as it's laid says he might you follow it as it's laid out or if you only make it three days, out or if you only make it three days, out or if you only make it three days, you stack two of the days. And so, it's you stack two of the days. And so, it's you stack two of the days. And so, it's basically you either do two exercises or basically you either do two exercises or basically you either do two exercises or four exercises in the gym. And it's four exercises in the gym. And it's four exercises in the gym. And it's appropriate, it's a more appropriate appropriate, it's a more appropriate appropriate, it's a more appropriate volume paired with your kickboxing that volume paired with your kickboxing that volume paired with your kickboxing that you might be doing. So, I I think you might be doing. So, I I think you might be doing. So, I I think anabolic is too much with her kickboxing anabolic is too much with her kickboxing anabolic is too much with her kickboxing and stuff. Two days a week we might have and stuff. Two days a week we might have and stuff. Two days a week we might have be okay. But yeah, be okay. But yeah, be okay. But yeah, &gt;&gt; even one. &gt;&gt; even one. &gt;&gt; even one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; She's talking about she going three &gt;&gt; She's talking about she going three &gt;&gt; She's talking about she going three times a week kickboxing and times a week kickboxing and times a week kickboxing and &gt;&gt; that's a lot. Don't do the weight &gt;&gt; that's a lot. Don't do the weight &gt;&gt; that's a lot. Don't do the weight lifting in the class. You could skip lifting in the class. You could skip lifting in the class. You could skip that, right? that, right? that, right? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; So if you still have mass 15, you could &gt;&gt; So if you still have mass 15, you could &gt;&gt; So if you still have mass 15, you could do cuz you do have that. You could do do cuz you do have that. You could do do cuz you do have that. You could do that program and what Adam's saying that program and what Adam's saying that program and what Adam's saying would be good. would be good. would be good. &gt;&gt; The other alternative is if you skipped &gt;&gt; The other alternative is if you skipped &gt;&gt; The other alternative is if you skipped all the other stuff that you're doing all the other stuff that you're doing all the other stuff that you're doing would be a powerlift. And then you guys would be a powerlift. And then you guys would be a powerlift. And then you guys could both really focus on getting could both really focus on getting could both really focus on getting strong at deadlifting, squatting, and strong at deadlifting, squatting, and strong at deadlifting, squatting, and benching. I mean, that's what I'd love benching. I mean, that's what I'd love benching. I mean, that's what I'd love to see. to see. to see. &gt;&gt; We'll build that skill. It' be amazing. &gt;&gt; We'll build that skill. It' be amazing. &gt;&gt; We'll build that skill. It' be amazing. &gt;&gt; I mean, and you guys will hit some PRs &gt;&gt; I mean, and you guys will hit some PRs &gt;&gt; I mean, and you guys will hit some PRs by the end of that program for sure. by the end of that program for sure. by the end of that program for sure. &gt;&gt; I could I could skip for the summer. &gt;&gt; I could I could skip for the summer. &gt;&gt; I could I could skip for the summer. It's not going to It's not going to It's not going to &gt;&gt; I've been listening long enough to know &gt;&gt; I've been listening long enough to know &gt;&gt; I've been listening long enough to know that it might be what you said. &gt;&gt; It's, you know, I could always go back &gt;&gt; It's, you know, I could always go back to it in the fall. to it in the fall. to it in the fall. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Your body will benefit from the &gt;&gt; Yeah. Your body will benefit from the &gt;&gt; Yeah. Your body will benefit from the community. community. community. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, you you &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, you you &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, you you guys will hit some PRs like guys will hit some PRs like guys will hit some PRs like &gt;&gt; you just get way more results that way. &gt;&gt; you just get way more results that way. &gt;&gt; you just get way more results that way. If I if I if if you were hellbent on If I if I if if you were hellbent on If I if I if if you were hellbent on going to the class and and it was going to the class and and it was going to the class and and it was something really important on the something really important on the something really important on the community part, I'd still let you do it community part, I'd still let you do it community part, I'd still let you do it as my client. I would just I would just as my client. I would just I would just as my client. I would just I would just warn you that we you know the power warn you that we you know the power warn you that we you know the power we're not going to get the most out of we're not going to get the most out of we're not going to get the most out of the power lifting and if you're not the power lifting and if you're not the power lifting and if you're not seeing the results you want, that's part seeing the results you want, that's part seeing the results you want, that's part of the reason why. of the reason why. of the reason why. &gt;&gt; And so you'll get the most uh you'll &gt;&gt; And so you'll get the most uh you'll &gt;&gt; And so you'll get the most uh you'll feel the best, you'll get the strongest feel the best, you'll get the strongest feel the best, you'll get the strongest uh from running powerlift just straight uh from running powerlift just straight uh from running powerlift just straight up the way it is. up the way it is. up the way it is. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean expect Yeah, you guys will &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean expect Yeah, you guys will &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean expect Yeah, you guys will hit some PRs in the big the three big hit some PRs in the big the three big hit some PRs in the big the three big lifts. And now now with diet, here's the lifts. And now now with diet, here's the lifts. And now now with diet, here's the thing though. Uh and I'll speak to your thing though. Uh and I'll speak to your thing though. Uh and I'll speak to your son because this is difficult for son because this is difficult for son because this is difficult for teenagers. Uh you got to hit your you teenagers. Uh you got to hit your you teenagers. Uh you got to hit your you got to hit your protein intake. got to hit your protein intake. got to hit your protein intake. &gt;&gt; Uh which means don't skip breakfast. &gt;&gt; Uh which means don't skip breakfast. &gt;&gt; Uh which means don't skip breakfast. That's a big one. Uh so you want to hit That's a big one. Uh so you want to hit That's a big one. Uh so you want to hit your body weight plus maybe 10 20 grams your body weight plus maybe 10 20 grams your body weight plus maybe 10 20 grams of protein uh in grams every single day. of protein uh in grams every single day. of protein uh in grams every single day. Every single day. Cuz if you do that at Every single day. Cuz if you do that at Every single day. Cuz if you do that at your age plus follow a mass power lift, your age plus follow a mass power lift, your age plus follow a mass power lift, &gt;&gt; oh man, &gt;&gt; oh man, &gt;&gt; oh man, &gt;&gt; you'll go back to school. You'll go back &gt;&gt; you'll go back to school. You'll go back &gt;&gt; you'll go back to school. You'll go back to school after the summer and to school after the summer and to school after the summer and everyone's gonna look at you and be everyone's gonna look at you and be everyone's gonna look at you and be like, "What happened to you?" like, "What happened to you?" like, "What happened to you?" &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like that's &gt;&gt; Like that's &gt;&gt; Like that's &gt;&gt; that's exactly &gt;&gt; that's exactly &gt;&gt; that's exactly that's what'll happen. that's what'll happen. that's what'll happen. &gt;&gt; The key is that the key is going to be &gt;&gt; The key is that the key is going to be &gt;&gt; The key is that the key is going to be eating the protein that the protein. eating the protein that the protein. eating the protein that the protein. That's the hardest part. That's the hardest part. That's the hardest part. &gt;&gt; And the other one's sleep. So those are &gt;&gt; And the other one's sleep. So those are &gt;&gt; And the other one's sleep. So those are the two that teenagers mess up is sleep the two that teenagers mess up is sleep the two that teenagers mess up is sleep and and I'm telling you, it doesn't make and and I'm telling you, it doesn't make and and I'm telling you, it doesn't make a little difference. It makes a huge a little difference. It makes a huge a little difference. It makes a huge difference. So it's like turbocharging difference. So it's like turbocharging difference. So it's like turbocharging all your results. So you hit your all your results. So you hit your all your results. So you hit your protein, you go to bed and wake up at protein, you go to bed and wake up at protein, you go to bed and wake up at the same time every day. Follow maps the same time every day. Follow maps the same time every day. Follow maps powerlift with your mom. You'll be uh powerlift with your mom. You'll be uh powerlift with your mom. You'll be uh you'll blow people away. you'll blow people away. you'll blow people away. &gt;&gt; How how are we with breakfast right now? &gt;&gt; How how are we with breakfast right now? &gt;&gt; How how are we with breakfast right now? What's breakfast look like? What's breakfast look like? What's breakfast look like? &gt;&gt; Uh my school starts a little early, so &gt;&gt; Uh my school starts a little early, so &gt;&gt; Uh my school starts a little early, so normally it's just like microwaved normally it's just like microwaved normally it's just like microwaved something. something. something. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Just like corn dogs or something. &gt;&gt; Just like corn dogs or something. &gt;&gt; Just like corn dogs or something. &gt;&gt; So a decent investment, mom, would be &gt;&gt; So a decent investment, mom, would be &gt;&gt; So a decent investment, mom, would be like Magic Spoon cereal. Uh something like Magic Spoon cereal. Uh something like Magic Spoon cereal. Uh something that's got he can have 30 40 grams of that's got he can have 30 40 grams of that's got he can have 30 40 grams of protein that's quick and easy. Um protein that's quick and easy. Um protein that's quick and easy. Um something like that. That'll that cuz something like that. That'll that cuz something like that. That'll that cuz that the key is to stay ahead of the that the key is to stay ahead of the that the key is to stay ahead of the protein cuz you have if you get in you protein cuz you have if you get in you protein cuz you have if you get in you have a 8 g 10 g protein breakfast in the have a 8 g 10 g protein breakfast in the have a 8 g 10 g protein breakfast in the microwave real quick. Then you're microwave real quick. Then you're microwave real quick. Then you're playing catchup lunchtime you have some playing catchup lunchtime you have some playing catchup lunchtime you have some sort of a sandwich or something which is sort of a sandwich or something which is sort of a sandwich or something which is only another 15 20 grams of protein. only another 15 20 grams of protein. only another 15 20 grams of protein. Before you know it, you're way behind on Before you know it, you're way behind on Before you know it, you're way behind on protein. So hitting protein consistently protein. So hitting protein consistently protein. So hitting protein consistently day in and day out with the day in and day out with the day in and day out with the weightlifting will radically change weightlifting will radically change weightlifting will radically change strength and weight. You'll look totally strength and weight. You'll look totally strength and weight. You'll look totally different. different. different. &gt;&gt; Yeah. But because it's summer, you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. But because it's summer, you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. But because it's summer, you're you got access to, you know, more food. you got access to, you know, more food. you got access to, you know, more food. If you're not at school, this would this If you're not at school, this would this If you're not at school, this would this should be a little easier. But you do should be a little easier. But you do should be a little easier. But you do that plus sleep plus follow a powerlift that plus sleep plus follow a powerlift that plus sleep plus follow a powerlift together. And then mom, same thing for together. And then mom, same thing for together. And then mom, same thing for you. Hit your target body weight and you. Hit your target body weight and you. Hit your target body weight and grams of protein consistently. Get good grams of protein consistently. Get good grams of protein consistently. Get good sleep. Keep your steps up. You know, sleep. Keep your steps up. You know, sleep. Keep your steps up. You know, 10,000 steps a day is good. You're also 10,000 steps a day is good. You're also 10,000 steps a day is good. You're also going to see radical change. Uh, and going to see radical change. Uh, and going to see radical change. Uh, and especially if you skip by skipping all especially if you skip by skipping all especially if you skip by skipping all the cardio classes, you're going to see the cardio classes, you're going to see the cardio classes, you're going to see the sculpt, the shape, metabolism boost, the sculpt, the shape, metabolism boost, the sculpt, the shape, metabolism boost, the whole thing. So, this will be a lot the whole thing. So, this will be a lot the whole thing. So, this will be a lot of fun. You guys, in fact, I want you of fun. You guys, in fact, I want you of fun. You guys, in fact, I want you guys back on guys back on guys back on &gt;&gt; after the summer. I want to hear about &gt;&gt; after the summer. I want to hear about &gt;&gt; after the summer. I want to hear about what happened. Yep. what happened. Yep. what happened. Yep. &gt;&gt; That be fun. I uh they always, you know, &gt;&gt; That be fun. I uh they always, you know, &gt;&gt; That be fun. I uh they always, you know, turn their nose up at my Greek yogurt turn their nose up at my Greek yogurt turn their nose up at my Greek yogurt and cottage cheese. Here's it from you. and cottage cheese. Here's it from you. and cottage cheese. Here's it from you. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I'll tell you with the cottage &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I'll tell you with the cottage &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, I'll tell you with the cottage cheese, I'll tell you a secret that cheese, I'll tell you a secret that cheese, I'll tell you a secret that makes it taste better. Take some vanilla makes it taste better. Take some vanilla makes it taste better. Take some vanilla whey protein powder, put it in it, stir whey protein powder, put it in it, stir whey protein powder, put it in it, stir it up, and throw some pineapple in it. it up, and throw some pineapple in it. it up, and throw some pineapple in it. &gt;&gt; I'm not a big fan of cottage cheese by &gt;&gt; I'm not a big fan of cottage cheese by &gt;&gt; I'm not a big fan of cottage cheese by itself, but if you put some vanilla whey itself, but if you put some vanilla whey itself, but if you put some vanilla whey in there, it sweetens it up. And then in there, it sweetens it up. And then in there, it sweetens it up. And then with some pineapple, and it's got a real with some pineapple, and it's got a real with some pineapple, and it's got a real good taste to it. You're talking about good taste to it. You're talking about good taste to it. You're talking about 40 50 grams of protein too in one shot. 40 50 grams of protein too in one shot. 40 50 grams of protein too in one shot. &gt;&gt; And here's the thing, and I'll just, you &gt;&gt; And here's the thing, and I'll just, you &gt;&gt; And here's the thing, and I'll just, you know, again, I'll speak to Eastston. Uh know, again, I'll speak to Eastston. Uh know, again, I'll speak to Eastston. Uh uh separating yourself from your peers. uh separating yourself from your peers. uh separating yourself from your peers. So, you want to be stronger. You want to So, you want to be stronger. You want to So, you want to be stronger. You want to be more focused. You want to be more be more focused. You want to be more be more focused. You want to be more successful, more jacked, all that stuff. successful, more jacked, all that stuff. successful, more jacked, all that stuff. It means you're going to have to do It means you're going to have to do It means you're going to have to do things different than everybody. things different than everybody. things different than everybody. &gt;&gt; Uh and so food is is different than just &gt;&gt; Uh and so food is is different than just &gt;&gt; Uh and so food is is different than just what tastes good and what's convenient. what tastes good and what's convenient. what tastes good and what's convenient. It's like I'm fueling my body and I'm It's like I'm fueling my body and I'm It's like I'm fueling my body and I'm fueling these gains. And so that fueling these gains. And so that fueling these gains. And so that mentality, I'm going to tell you right mentality, I'm going to tell you right mentality, I'm going to tell you right now, at your age, cuz you're young, You now, at your age, cuz you're young, You now, at your age, cuz you're young, You get that mentality now, you start get that mentality now, you start get that mentality now, you start strength training now, bro. By the time strength training now, bro. By the time strength training now, bro. By the time you're 19, you're 19, you're 19, &gt;&gt; you're going to be in another universe. &gt;&gt; you're going to be in another universe. &gt;&gt; you're going to be in another universe. Uh, absolutely. So, this is a great time Uh, absolutely. So, this is a great time Uh, absolutely. So, this is a great time to start. &gt;&gt; What do you think? &gt;&gt; What do you think? &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, like three days. Is power lift &gt;&gt; Okay. So, like three days. Is power lift &gt;&gt; Okay. So, like three days. Is power lift a three day a week? a three day a week? a three day a week? &gt;&gt; Uh, three or four? &gt;&gt; Uh, three or four? &gt;&gt; Uh, three or four? &gt;&gt; Y. &gt;&gt; Y. &gt;&gt; Y. &gt;&gt; Three or four. Okay. Perfect. &gt;&gt; Three or four. Okay. Perfect. &gt;&gt; Three or four. Okay. Perfect. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Or we'll send that we'll send that over &gt;&gt; Or we'll send that we'll send that over &gt;&gt; Or we'll send that we'll send that over to you guys. to you guys. to you guys. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Let's get you back on in a few &gt;&gt; Yeah. Let's get you back on in a few &gt;&gt; Yeah. Let's get you back on in a few months. months. months. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Hit that protein. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Hit that protein. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Hit that protein. &gt;&gt; We appreciate you guys. &gt;&gt; We appreciate you guys. &gt;&gt; We appreciate you guys. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; You got it. &gt;&gt; You got it. &gt;&gt; You got it. &gt;&gt; Protein here. Okay, &gt;&gt; Protein here. Okay, &gt;&gt; Protein here. Okay, &gt;&gt; thank you guys so much. &gt;&gt; thank you guys so much. &gt;&gt; thank you guys so much. &gt;&gt; Good job, guys. &gt;&gt; Good job, guys. &gt;&gt; Good job, guys. &gt;&gt; All right, good luck. &gt;&gt; All right, good luck. &gt;&gt; All right, good luck. &gt;&gt; Thank you. &gt;&gt; Thank you. &gt;&gt; Thank you. &gt;&gt; I uh uh but I love like uh first of all, &gt;&gt; I uh uh but I love like uh first of all, &gt;&gt; I uh uh but I love like uh first of all, I think that's cool that he's working I think that's cool that he's working I think that's cool that he's working out with mom. out with mom. out with mom. &gt;&gt; Um and that mom is taking the time out &gt;&gt; Um and that mom is taking the time out &gt;&gt; Um and that mom is taking the time out to do this with her son. Such a great uh to do this with her son. Such a great uh to do this with her son. Such a great uh experience together. experience together. experience together. &gt;&gt; But you know, you start with the right &gt;&gt; But you know, you start with the right &gt;&gt; But you know, you start with the right kind of idea and discipline. This is the kind of idea and discipline. This is the kind of idea and discipline. This is the big one, especially for young men. big one, especially for young men. big one, especially for young men. Discipline is so important for young men Discipline is so important for young men Discipline is so important for young men because we're so it's so easy for us to because we're so it's so easy for us to because we're so it's so easy for us to be undisiplined. But you, you know, be undisiplined. But you, you know, be undisiplined. But you, you know, strength training, diet, like you figure strength training, diet, like you figure strength training, diet, like you figure out that discipline, especially now, it out that discipline, especially now, it out that discipline, especially now, it can go off the rails, but if you start can go off the rails, but if you start can go off the rails, but if you start to figure that out at 13, to figure that out at 13, to figure that out at 13, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; bro, you're so far ahead uh of your &gt;&gt; bro, you're so far ahead uh of your &gt;&gt; bro, you're so far ahead uh of your peers uh by the time you're 16, 17, 18, peers uh by the time you're 16, 17, 18, peers uh by the time you're 16, 17, 18, uh it's incredible. He's going to have uh it's incredible. He's going to have uh it's incredible. He's going to have some crazy gains this summer strength some crazy gains this summer strength some crazy gains this summer strength this summer. this summer. this summer. &gt;&gt; I hope they do it. I hope he does it. &gt;&gt; I hope they do it. I hope he does it. &gt;&gt; I hope they do it. I hope he does it. It'd be really cool to see if he if he It'd be really cool to see if he if he It'd be really cool to see if he if he sticks with it because Yeah, it'll he'll sticks with it because Yeah, it'll he'll sticks with it because Yeah, it'll he'll definitely he'll come back to school definitely he'll come back to school definitely he'll come back to school like radically different for sure. like radically different for sure. like radically different for sure. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Tiffany from Ontario. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Tiffany from Ontario. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Tiffany from Ontario. &gt;&gt; Hi, Tiffany. &gt;&gt; Hi, Tiffany. &gt;&gt; Hi, Tiffany. &gt;&gt; Hi, Tiffany. &gt;&gt; Hi, Tiffany. &gt;&gt; Hi, Tiffany. Hi, thank you very much. Uh, I'm excited Hi, thank you very much. Uh, I'm excited Hi, thank you very much. Uh, I'm excited to talk to you. Um, so my question is I to talk to you. Um, so my question is I to talk to you. Um, so my question is I have been training I'm 44. I've been have been training I'm 44. I've been have been training I'm 44. I've been training since grade nine. So I've loved training since grade nine. So I've loved training since grade nine. So I've loved fitness my whole life. Um, and when I fitness my whole life. Um, and when I fitness my whole life. Um, and when I started around 19 years old, I started started around 19 years old, I started started around 19 years old, I started trail running on top of lifting. And I trail running on top of lifting. And I trail running on top of lifting. And I noticed I was sore all the time in the noticed I was sore all the time in the noticed I was sore all the time in the hips. hips. hips. For the last 16 years, I've been seeing For the last 16 years, I've been seeing For the last 16 years, I've been seeing chiropractors and physios and everyone chiropractors and physios and everyone chiropractors and physios and everyone under the sun trying to figure out, you under the sun trying to figure out, you under the sun trying to figure out, you know, why I'm, you know, my one hip, know, why I'm, you know, my one hip, know, why I'm, you know, my one hip, especially my left hip was bothering me. especially my left hip was bothering me. especially my left hip was bothering me. Um, and because I'm a landscaper, Um, and because I'm a landscaper, Um, and because I'm a landscaper, everyone just kept saying, you know, everyone just kept saying, you know, everyone just kept saying, you know, it's your job and your exercise. And so it's your job and your exercise. And so it's your job and your exercise. And so I would do physio and I wake up every I would do physio and I wake up every I would do physio and I wake up every morning at 4:00 a.m. and I do physio. morning at 4:00 a.m. and I do physio. morning at 4:00 a.m. and I do physio. And then some nights I, you know, would And then some nights I, you know, would And then some nights I, you know, would come home limping. Some days I couldn't come home limping. Some days I couldn't come home limping. Some days I couldn't make it through work. Some days I go to make it through work. Some days I go to make it through work. Some days I go to the gym and I can lift and other days I the gym and I can lift and other days I the gym and I can lift and other days I can't. Um, so I found out I have hip can't. Um, so I found out I have hip can't. Um, so I found out I have hip dysplacia and because this has been dysplacia and because this has been dysplacia and because this has been going on for so long now I have going on for so long now I have going on for so long now I have arthritis and I have spurs in my hip and arthritis and I have spurs in my hip and arthritis and I have spurs in my hip and um, so my question is I do have some um, so my question is I do have some um, so my question is I do have some exercises that I've been finding are exercises that I've been finding are exercises that I've been finding are helpful. Um, but I'm having my hip helpful. Um, but I'm having my hip helpful. Um, but I'm having my hip replaced in 8 months and I want to know replaced in 8 months and I want to know replaced in 8 months and I want to know how I can kind of prepare for that so how I can kind of prepare for that so how I can kind of prepare for that so that I come out better than before. that I come out better than before. that I come out better than before. &gt;&gt; Yeah, good question. &gt;&gt; Yeah, good question. &gt;&gt; Yeah, good question. typically uh when I meet someone like typically uh when I meet someone like typically uh when I meet someone like you with chronic who exercises you with chronic who exercises you with chronic who exercises consistently but with chronic um pain consistently but with chronic um pain consistently but with chronic um pain and kind of like in like flare-ups of and kind of like in like flare-ups of and kind of like in like flare-ups of injury or arthritis. So we're not injury or arthritis. So we're not injury or arthritis. So we're not talking about seditary people. We're talking about seditary people. We're talking about seditary people. We're talking about someone who's active. talking about someone who's active. talking about someone who's active. There's usually a few culprits. Uh it's There's usually a few culprits. Uh it's There's usually a few culprits. Uh it's either overtraining, either overtraining, either overtraining, uh poor movement patterns, which they uh poor movement patterns, which they uh poor movement patterns, which they have a tough time correcting because have a tough time correcting because have a tough time correcting because they exercise so much that they continue they exercise so much that they continue they exercise so much that they continue to strengthen the poor recruitment to strengthen the poor recruitment to strengthen the poor recruitment pattern or nutrient deficiency or too pattern or nutrient deficiency or too pattern or nutrient deficiency or too low of caloric intake low of caloric intake low of caloric intake &gt;&gt; or all the above. Yep. &gt;&gt; or all the above. Yep. &gt;&gt; or all the above. Yep. &gt;&gt; Maybe possibly. &gt;&gt; Maybe possibly. &gt;&gt; Maybe possibly. &gt;&gt; Is that all of you said? What did you &gt;&gt; Is that all of you said? What did you &gt;&gt; Is that all of you said? What did you say? Sorry. say? Sorry. say? Sorry. &gt;&gt; I said probably all of those. &gt;&gt; I said probably all of those. &gt;&gt; I said probably all of those. &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. Yep. &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. Yep. &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. Yep. &gt;&gt; That makes sense. &gt;&gt; That makes sense. &gt;&gt; That makes sense. &gt;&gt; Now tell Okay, let's let's start with &gt;&gt; Now tell Okay, let's let's start with &gt;&gt; Now tell Okay, let's let's start with the last one that I said. Tell me about the last one that I said. Tell me about the last one that I said. Tell me about your food intake. Do you know how many your food intake. Do you know how many your food intake. Do you know how many calories you eat a day? You sound very calories you eat a day? You sound very calories you eat a day? You sound very active. So, active. So, active. So, &gt;&gt; yeah. So, when I'm offseason, because &gt;&gt; yeah. So, when I'm offseason, because &gt;&gt; yeah. So, when I'm offseason, because I'm in Canada, so I don't landscape over I'm in Canada, so I don't landscape over I'm in Canada, so I don't landscape over the winter. Um, in my offseason, I the winter. Um, in my offseason, I the winter. Um, in my offseason, I honestly I eat intuitively, but I do eat honestly I eat intuitively, but I do eat honestly I eat intuitively, but I do eat a lot of red meat. I eat a lot of a lot of red meat. I eat a lot of a lot of red meat. I eat a lot of carbohydrates that are whole foods. carbohydrates that are whole foods. carbohydrates that are whole foods. Like, I love plantain and rice and oats. Like, I love plantain and rice and oats. Like, I love plantain and rice and oats. So, I'm not I'm actually an eater. I So, I'm not I'm actually an eater. I So, I'm not I'm actually an eater. I would say I'm someone that eats, but I would say I'm someone that eats, but I would say I'm someone that eats, but I also have a lot of output. I'm a little also have a lot of output. I'm a little also have a lot of output. I'm a little bit of a hummingbird. So, I'm always on bit of a hummingbird. So, I'm always on bit of a hummingbird. So, I'm always on the go. And then in my working season, I the go. And then in my working season, I the go. And then in my working season, I struggle to eat maybe throughout the day struggle to eat maybe throughout the day struggle to eat maybe throughout the day because I'm so busy and I'm so active because I'm so busy and I'm so active because I'm so busy and I'm so active and then I come home and I crush like a and then I come home and I crush like a and then I come home and I crush like a big dinner. Okay, big dinner. Okay, big dinner. Okay, &gt;&gt; so I'm not if I'm undereating it might &gt;&gt; so I'm not if I'm undereating it might &gt;&gt; so I'm not if I'm undereating it might be not intentionally. Um but I am very be not intentionally. Um but I am very be not intentionally. Um but I am very restrictive with what I eat. I try to restrictive with what I eat. I try to restrictive with what I eat. I try to eat, you know, as close to nature as eat, you know, as close to nature as eat, you know, as close to nature as possible and um I don't I don't really possible and um I don't I don't really possible and um I don't I don't really have treat meals. I I feel like, you have treat meals. I I feel like, you have treat meals. I I feel like, you know, I have good digestion when I eat know, I have good digestion when I eat know, I have good digestion when I eat whole foods. So, I just eat, you know, a whole foods. So, I just eat, you know, a whole foods. So, I just eat, you know, a lot of the things that I love that are lot of the things that I love that are lot of the things that I love that are healthy for me. healthy for me. healthy for me. &gt;&gt; Okay. Let's So, let's back up. So, you &gt;&gt; Okay. Let's So, let's back up. So, you &gt;&gt; Okay. Let's So, let's back up. So, you So, you started exercising in the ninth So, you started exercising in the ninth So, you started exercising in the ninth grade. grade. grade. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; What was the motivation back then? &gt;&gt; What was the motivation back then? &gt;&gt; What was the motivation back then? &gt;&gt; I don't I you know what? My dad died &gt;&gt; I don't I you know what? My dad died &gt;&gt; I don't I you know what? My dad died young of diabetes. And so, I watched young of diabetes. And so, I watched young of diabetes. And so, I watched someone who could have helped themselves someone who could have helped themselves someone who could have helped themselves not help themselves. And but I think I not help themselves. And but I think I not help themselves. And but I think I just started just started just started loving that I could kind of be healthy loving that I could kind of be healthy loving that I could kind of be healthy based on how I lived. And my first job based on how I lived. And my first job based on how I lived. And my first job was a fitness instructor. Like I I was a fitness instructor. Like I I was a fitness instructor. Like I I taught aerobics when I was in grade taught aerobics when I was in grade taught aerobics when I was in grade nine. So I there was just something that nine. So I there was just something that nine. So I there was just something that I guess it was I like to be the opposite I guess it was I like to be the opposite I guess it was I like to be the opposite of what I was witnessing at home. of what I was witnessing at home. of what I was witnessing at home. &gt;&gt; Okay. It must have been scary to watch &gt;&gt; Okay. It must have been scary to watch &gt;&gt; Okay. It must have been scary to watch that your dad go through that. that your dad go through that. that your dad go through that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Maybe scary, but I'm a little &gt;&gt; Yeah. Maybe scary, but I'm a little &gt;&gt; Yeah. Maybe scary, but I'm a little stubborn. So to me, I just never stubborn. So to me, I just never stubborn. So to me, I just never understood the rationale behind being understood the rationale behind being understood the rationale behind being able to fix something and then not able to fix something and then not able to fix something and then not fixing it. fixing it. fixing it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I get it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I get it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I get it. &gt;&gt; I get that. Uh has anybody ever told you &gt;&gt; I get that. Uh has anybody ever told you &gt;&gt; I get that. Uh has anybody ever told you that you're too uh that you're too that you're too uh that you're too that you're too uh that you're too controlling with your diet or that controlling with your diet or that controlling with your diet or that you're it's too restrictive? you're it's too restrictive? you're it's too restrictive? &gt;&gt; Uh yeah, I definitely, but I would also &gt;&gt; Uh yeah, I definitely, but I would also &gt;&gt; Uh yeah, I definitely, but I would also say say say I don't know about quantity. Like people I don't know about quantity. Like people I don't know about quantity. Like people are always surprised how much food I can are always surprised how much food I can are always surprised how much food I can eat, but I'm not someone who deviates eat, but I'm not someone who deviates eat, but I'm not someone who deviates from from from the foods that I eat. For one, like I do the foods that I eat. For one, like I do the foods that I eat. For one, like I do do it from time to time. Like I love do it from time to time. Like I love do it from time to time. Like I love pizza and for my birthday I'll have cake pizza and for my birthday I'll have cake pizza and for my birthday I'll have cake and and I won't feel guilt about that. and and I won't feel guilt about that. and and I won't feel guilt about that. Um but I do find I just feel better the Um but I do find I just feel better the Um but I do find I just feel better the rest of the week when I stick close to rest of the week when I stick close to rest of the week when I stick close to like the foods that I know work for me. like the foods that I know work for me. like the foods that I know work for me. &gt;&gt; Okay, cool. Um and you've had bone &gt;&gt; Okay, cool. Um and you've had bone &gt;&gt; Okay, cool. Um and you've had bone density tested along with all of this? density tested along with all of this? density tested along with all of this? &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; Okay, you should. Yeah, I would get bone &gt;&gt; Okay, you should. Yeah, I would get bone &gt;&gt; Okay, you should. Yeah, I would get bone density tested along with all of this. density tested along with all of this. density tested along with all of this. Uh, and then let's talk about exercise. Uh, and then let's talk about exercise. Uh, and then let's talk about exercise. What is your like what does your daily What is your like what does your daily What is your like what does your daily activity look like and your workouts activity look like and your workouts activity look like and your workouts look like? look like? look like? &gt;&gt; So, when I'm working, um, I get up at 4, &gt;&gt; So, when I'm working, um, I get up at 4, &gt;&gt; So, when I'm working, um, I get up at 4, like I said, and I do my physio and I like I said, and I do my physio and I like I said, and I do my physio and I might do I'll call it a trigger session might do I'll call it a trigger session might do I'll call it a trigger session in the morning because I'm trying to in the morning because I'm trying to in the morning because I'm trying to maintain the muscle that I put in the maintain the muscle that I put in the maintain the muscle that I put in the winter. Um, and then I go to work and I winter. Um, and then I go to work and I winter. Um, and then I go to work and I put in a 10-hour day of labor. So, I put in a 10-hour day of labor. So, I put in a 10-hour day of labor. So, I have a very active eight months of year. have a very active eight months of year. have a very active eight months of year. Yeah. And the winter I I would say my Yeah. And the winter I I would say my Yeah. And the winter I I would say my activity is walking my dogs. I don't do activity is walking my dogs. I don't do activity is walking my dogs. I don't do cardio. I just walk my dogs for my my cardio. I just walk my dogs for my my cardio. I just walk my dogs for my my cardio and then I hit the gym for cardio and then I hit the gym for cardio and then I hit the gym for afternoon and then the rest of the day I afternoon and then the rest of the day I afternoon and then the rest of the day I kind of like because I'm so burnt out kind of like because I'm so burnt out kind of like because I'm so burnt out for eight months a year if I want to be for eight months a year if I want to be for eight months a year if I want to be a little lazy or if I want to clean the a little lazy or if I want to clean the a little lazy or if I want to clean the house like I don't put a lot of pressure house like I don't put a lot of pressure house like I don't put a lot of pressure on myself in the off season. on myself in the off season. on myself in the off season. &gt;&gt; Okay. And then what does your strength &gt;&gt; Okay. And then what does your strength &gt;&gt; Okay. And then what does your strength training look like? Um, I try to lift as training look like? Um, I try to lift as training look like? Um, I try to lift as heavy as possible. I take long rest heavy as possible. I take long rest heavy as possible. I take long rest periods. Um, my legs because of my hip periods. Um, my legs because of my hip periods. Um, my legs because of my hip dysplasia and which I didn't know it was dysplasia and which I didn't know it was dysplasia and which I didn't know it was hip dysplasia until this year, but I hip dysplasia until this year, but I hip dysplasia until this year, but I would lift what I felt I could do would lift what I felt I could do would lift what I felt I could do without the pain. without the pain. without the pain. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Some days it's body weight. Some days I &gt;&gt; Some days it's body weight. Some days I &gt;&gt; Some days it's body weight. Some days I start warming my hips up and I have to start warming my hips up and I have to start warming my hips up and I have to go to upper body because it's just too go to upper body because it's just too go to upper body because it's just too painful. But if I can lift, I might lift painful. But if I can lift, I might lift painful. But if I can lift, I might lift six to eight reps heavy. Okay? Um, but six to eight reps heavy. Okay? Um, but six to eight reps heavy. Okay? Um, but if it's a day where, you know, that if it's a day where, you know, that if it's a day where, you know, that doesn't feel good, then I'll drop the doesn't feel good, then I'll drop the doesn't feel good, then I'll drop the weights and I'll I'll lift to 10 to 15. weights and I'll I'll lift to 10 to 15. weights and I'll I'll lift to 10 to 15. It just I kind of like now that I'm It just I kind of like now that I'm It just I kind of like now that I'm older, I don't push through it like I older, I don't push through it like I older, I don't push through it like I used to. Okay. I try a little better. used to. Okay. I try a little better. used to. Okay. I try a little better. &gt;&gt; Okay, good. Okay, good. And then um and &gt;&gt; Okay, good. Okay, good. And then um and &gt;&gt; Okay, good. Okay, good. And then um and then if you don't mind me asking, height then if you don't mind me asking, height then if you don't mind me asking, height and weight. and weight. and weight. &gt;&gt; I'm 56 and I'm 103 lbs. &gt;&gt; I'm 56 and I'm 103 lbs. &gt;&gt; I'm 56 and I'm 103 lbs. &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. So, so what's going to help &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. So, so what's going to help &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. So, so what's going to help you the most? Uh, obviously continue you the most? Uh, obviously continue you the most? Uh, obviously continue moving, continue strength training. moving, continue strength training. moving, continue strength training. you're going to want to go into the you're going to want to go into the you're going to want to go into the surgery with more muscle and more body surgery with more muscle and more body surgery with more muscle and more body fat. fat. fat. &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; uh at your height and your weight uh and &gt;&gt; uh at your height and your weight uh and &gt;&gt; uh at your height and your weight uh and what you're describing. So, you're what you're describing. So, you're what you're describing. So, you're active. So, it's not like you're not active. So, it's not like you're not active. So, it's not like you're not active. You're doing some you're doing active. You're doing some you're doing active. You're doing some you're doing the exercises. You're doing the right the exercises. You're doing the right the exercises. You're doing the right ones. You do physio, so you're doing the ones. You do physio, so you're doing the ones. You do physio, so you're doing the correctional exercises. So, that's all correctional exercises. So, that's all correctional exercises. So, that's all good, good, good, &gt;&gt; but you're going to have a easier time &gt;&gt; but you're going to have a easier time &gt;&gt; but you're going to have a easier time recovering uh going into the surgery recovering uh going into the surgery recovering uh going into the surgery with more weight on your body. Yeah. Uh with more weight on your body. Yeah. Uh with more weight on your body. Yeah. Uh because you're going to be catabolic because you're going to be catabolic because you're going to be catabolic postsurgery. This is what happens. So, postsurgery. This is what happens. So, postsurgery. This is what happens. So, post surgery, you can't move much. And post surgery, you can't move much. And post surgery, you can't move much. And the name of what happens, this is just the name of what happens, this is just the name of what happens, this is just natural, is you're going to lose some natural, is you're going to lose some natural, is you're going to lose some muscle and you're going to lose some muscle and you're going to lose some muscle and you're going to lose some weight. Okay? This is what happens. And weight. Okay? This is what happens. And weight. Okay? This is what happens. And if you don't have a lot of weight to if you don't have a lot of weight to if you don't have a lot of weight to lose, this can be very detrimental. lose, this can be very detrimental. lose, this can be very detrimental. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; So, you So, uh, someone like you is &gt;&gt; So, you So, uh, someone like you is &gt;&gt; So, you So, uh, someone like you is going to want to go in. I'd like to And going to want to go in. I'd like to And going to want to go in. I'd like to And when is your surgery? when is your surgery? when is your surgery? &gt;&gt; November. &gt;&gt; November. &gt;&gt; November. &gt;&gt; Oh, you got time? Oh, good. &gt;&gt; Oh, you got time? Oh, good. &gt;&gt; Oh, you got time? Oh, good. &gt;&gt; I'd like to see you gain 15 to 20 &gt;&gt; I'd like to see you gain 15 to 20 &gt;&gt; I'd like to see you gain 15 to 20 pounds. Yeah. pounds. Yeah. pounds. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Even if it's body fat. So don't don't &gt;&gt; Even if it's body fat. So don't don't &gt;&gt; Even if it's body fat. So don't don't overthink the the what you're eating. overthink the the what you're eating. overthink the the what you're eating. It's like it's better that we put on It's like it's better that we put on It's like it's better that we put on body fat than we put on no way. body fat than we put on no way. body fat than we put on no way. &gt;&gt; If you could do it with healthy food, &gt;&gt; If you could do it with healthy food, &gt;&gt; If you could do it with healthy food, there's nothing. I think that's great. I there's nothing. I think that's great. I there's nothing. I think that's great. I think that's great. But you think that's great. But you think that's great. But you &gt;&gt; But if I had to choose you not not &gt;&gt; But if I had to choose you not not &gt;&gt; But if I had to choose you not not eating something or eating something eating something or eating something eating something or eating something with high calorie just eat you I want I with high calorie just eat you I want I with high calorie just eat you I want I want weight on going into that surgery. want weight on going into that surgery. want weight on going into that surgery. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You're going to want to go in a &gt;&gt; Yeah. You're going to want to go in a &gt;&gt; Yeah. You're going to want to go in a good 15 to 20 pounds heavier feeling good 15 to 20 pounds heavier feeling good 15 to 20 pounds heavier feeling strong. Uh and that's going to give you strong. Uh and that's going to give you strong. Uh and that's going to give you a nice buffer. Um, I would also suggest a nice buffer. Um, I would also suggest a nice buffer. Um, I would also suggest a uh bone density test. a uh bone density test. a uh bone density test. &gt;&gt; Dexus scan will do that. &gt;&gt; Dexus scan will do that. &gt;&gt; Dexus scan will do that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and just see where you're at. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and just see where you're at. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and just see where you're at. Uh, and and if your bone density with Uh, and and if your bone density with Uh, and and if your bone density with all the exercise you've been doing, if all the exercise you've been doing, if all the exercise you've been doing, if the test says that your bone density is the test says that your bone density is the test says that your bone density is in the lower range, for sure your your in the lower range, for sure your your in the lower range, for sure your your your caloric intake has been too low for your caloric intake has been too low for your caloric intake has been too low for too long. For sure. Because the only too long. For sure. Because the only too long. For sure. Because the only time you see that when people are active time you see that when people are active time you see that when people are active and they exercise, but they have low and they exercise, but they have low and they exercise, but they have low bone density, it's cuz they're not bone density, it's cuz they're not bone density, it's cuz they're not eating enough. Yeah. Because obviously eating enough. Yeah. Because obviously eating enough. Yeah. Because obviously activity, strength training sends a activity, strength training sends a activity, strength training sends a signal to strength and bone. It just signal to strength and bone. It just signal to strength and bone. It just does. But if you don't feed your body does. But if you don't feed your body does. But if you don't feed your body enough, you're going to lose bone enough, you're going to lose bone enough, you're going to lose bone density. So I I really suggest you do density. So I I really suggest you do density. So I I really suggest you do that. And if you were my client going that. And if you were my client going that. And if you were my client going into surgery and we're like, "Oh, we got into surgery and we're like, "Oh, we got into surgery and we're like, "Oh, we got till November. My goal with you is till November. My goal with you is till November. My goal with you is continue strength training, traditional continue strength training, traditional continue strength training, traditional strength training. Make sure you pick strength training. Make sure you pick strength training. Make sure you pick the right exercises, which it sounds the right exercises, which it sounds the right exercises, which it sounds like you're doing the right ones. Make like you're doing the right ones. Make like you're doing the right ones. Make sure you have good technique. And I'm sure you have good technique. And I'm sure you have good technique. And I'm going to have you gain weight. I want going to have you gain weight. I want going to have you gain weight. I want you to go in 15 pounds heavier at least. you to go in 15 pounds heavier at least. you to go in 15 pounds heavier at least. And that'll give us a nice buffer And that'll give us a nice buffer And that'll give us a nice buffer because if you go in at 103 pounds, because if you go in at 103 pounds, because if you go in at 103 pounds, &gt;&gt; uh you're going to after you're going to &gt;&gt; uh you're going to after you're going to &gt;&gt; uh you're going to after you're going to get down to 90 get down to 90 get down to 90 &gt;&gt; and you're going to feel not great &gt;&gt; and you're going to feel not great &gt;&gt; and you're going to feel not great because you just don't have much to lose because you just don't have much to lose because you just don't have much to lose there. there. there. &gt;&gt; Well, and it'll be all good weight &gt;&gt; Well, and it'll be all good weight &gt;&gt; Well, and it'll be all good weight you'll lose. And like if you go in with you'll lose. And like if you go in with you'll lose. And like if you go in with some body fat, at least we have some some body fat, at least we have some some body fat, at least we have some body fat for your body. body fat for your body. body fat for your body. &gt;&gt; Yeah, we want to gain muscle and body &gt;&gt; Yeah, we want to gain muscle and body &gt;&gt; Yeah, we want to gain muscle and body fat going into it. fat going into it. fat going into it. &gt;&gt; Yes, definitely. &gt;&gt; Yes, definitely. &gt;&gt; Yes, definitely. Um my other question is um and I don't Um my other question is um and I don't Um my other question is um and I don't know maybe this is a Justin question but know maybe this is a Justin question but know maybe this is a Justin question but like I don't move well uh laterally and like I don't move well uh laterally and like I don't move well uh laterally and I think because my hip is so um instable I think because my hip is so um instable I think because my hip is so um instable and I and I've been trying to like you and I and I've been trying to like you and I and I've been trying to like you know build muscle on my glutes and and know build muscle on my glutes and and know build muscle on my glutes and and stuff like that to like you know stuff like that to like you know stuff like that to like you know stabilize my hip but I'm I think I'm stabilize my hip but I'm I think I'm stabilize my hip but I'm I think I'm nervous now because I've hurt myself so nervous now because I've hurt myself so nervous now because I've hurt myself so many times and like I would try many times and like I would try many times and like I would try something and then I wouldn't sleep for something and then I wouldn't sleep for something and then I wouldn't sleep for the week because I was sore. the week because I was sore. the week because I was sore. But I I don't move well laterally and I But I I don't move well laterally and I But I I don't move well laterally and I don't move well with instability and I don't move well with instability and I don't move well with instability and I don't know is that something do I wait don't know is that something do I wait don't know is that something do I wait till after surgery that I work on or do till after surgery that I work on or do till after surgery that I work on or do I try to work on it now? I try to work on it now? I try to work on it now? &gt;&gt; Uh very gradually very progressively um &gt;&gt; Uh very gradually very progressively um &gt;&gt; Uh very gradually very progressively um you can make steps in that that you can make steps in that that you can make steps in that that direction. um something like a tube walk direction. um something like a tube walk direction. um something like a tube walk uh to to start in terms of like having uh to to start in terms of like having uh to to start in terms of like having you um slightly hip hinged or squatted you um slightly hip hinged or squatted you um slightly hip hinged or squatted and then kind of walking laterally uh to and then kind of walking laterally uh to and then kind of walking laterally uh to get some kind of resistance to that get some kind of resistance to that get some kind of resistance to that would start kind of help to build and would start kind of help to build and would start kind of help to build and develop develop develop &gt;&gt; isometrics that isometrics would be &gt;&gt; isometrics that isometrics would be &gt;&gt; isometrics that isometrics would be amazing. amazing. amazing. &gt;&gt; Yeah, 9090 9090 work in two walks would &gt;&gt; Yeah, 9090 9090 work in two walks would &gt;&gt; Yeah, 9090 9090 work in two walks would be awesome. Well, you got to be careful be awesome. Well, you got to be careful be awesome. Well, you got to be careful with the hip dysplasia with 9090, but I with the hip dysplasia with 9090, but I with the hip dysplasia with 9090, but I would go uh um isometrics would go uh um isometrics would go uh um isometrics &gt;&gt; uh and press against something like &gt;&gt; uh and press against something like &gt;&gt; uh and press against something like you're doing an abduction. Not fully you're doing an abduction. Not fully you're doing an abduction. Not fully abducted, abducted, abducted, &gt;&gt; but like halfway press into something &gt;&gt; but like halfway press into something &gt;&gt; but like halfway press into something really really hard for 15 to 20 seconds really really hard for 15 to 20 seconds really really hard for 15 to 20 seconds and rest. Very safe for people with and rest. Very safe for people with and rest. Very safe for people with joint instability and it still builds joint instability and it still builds joint instability and it still builds strength and it's actually a great way strength and it's actually a great way strength and it's actually a great way to like a yoga block against the wall. to like a yoga block against the wall. to like a yoga block against the wall. That would be ideal. Yep. That would be ideal. Yep. That would be ideal. Yep. &gt;&gt; Um &gt;&gt; Um &gt;&gt; Um &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I think too at some point if &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I think too at some point if &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I think too at some point if it feels comfortable just to um you know it feels comfortable just to um you know it feels comfortable just to um you know in a wide stance just you know bend one in a wide stance just you know bend one in a wide stance just you know bend one knee kind of shift your weight to one knee kind of shift your weight to one knee kind of shift your weight to one side come back. So it's not necessarily side come back. So it's not necessarily side come back. So it's not necessarily like a depth thing. It's just like a depth thing. It's just like a depth thing. It's just acclimating to that lateral stability. acclimating to that lateral stability. acclimating to that lateral stability. &gt;&gt; If you had like a suspension trainer to &gt;&gt; If you had like a suspension trainer to &gt;&gt; If you had like a suspension trainer to help support that while you do that help support that while you do that help support that while you do that would be great. So, I don't know if you would be great. So, I don't know if you would be great. So, I don't know if you have a suspension train or not, but have a suspension train or not, but have a suspension train or not, but anchoring that, holding that while you anchoring that, holding that while you anchoring that, holding that while you kind of do what Justin's saying, almost kind of do what Justin's saying, almost kind of do what Justin's saying, almost like a classic squat where you're going like a classic squat where you're going like a classic squat where you're going right to left, right to left, right to left, &gt;&gt; but don't go full range of motion with &gt;&gt; but don't go full range of motion with &gt;&gt; but don't go full range of motion with what you have. You're going to go what you have. You're going to go what you have. You're going to go shorter range of motion. shorter range of motion. shorter range of motion. &gt;&gt; And we're just gradually incrementally &gt;&gt; And we're just gradually incrementally &gt;&gt; And we're just gradually incrementally like inch by inch. like inch by inch. like inch by inch. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That in a calorie surplus would serve &gt;&gt; That in a calorie surplus would serve &gt;&gt; That in a calorie surplus would serve you really well. you really well. you really well. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; And did you guys ever have like people &gt;&gt; And did you guys ever have like people &gt;&gt; And did you guys ever have like people that recovered from hip surgery that that recovered from hip surgery that that recovered from hip surgery that like like am I going to be able to do uh like like am I going to be able to do uh like like am I going to be able to do uh different movements that I couldn't do different movements that I couldn't do different movements that I couldn't do before or is this kind of like same but before or is this kind of like same but before or is this kind of like same but no pain? No, you'll be fine. No. So, no pain? No, you'll be fine. No. So, no pain? No, you'll be fine. No. So, I've had great success, but it all it I've had great success, but it all it I've had great success, but it all it all hinges on how uh well you go into it all hinges on how uh well you go into it all hinges on how uh well you go into it &gt;&gt; corrective work &gt;&gt; corrective work &gt;&gt; corrective work &gt;&gt; and then after &gt;&gt; and then after &gt;&gt; and then after &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Okay. Now, your range of motion will be &gt;&gt; Okay. Now, your range of motion will be &gt;&gt; Okay. Now, your range of motion will be limited post with hip uh with hip limited post with hip uh with hip limited post with hip uh with hip replacement. Uh so, if you're really replacement. Uh so, if you're really replacement. Uh so, if you're really hyper mobile now, you're not going to hyper mobile now, you're not going to hyper mobile now, you're not going to have that same mobility, but you'll have have that same mobility, but you'll have have that same mobility, but you'll have good mobility. So, it's not like you good mobility. So, it's not like you good mobility. So, it's not like you have bad mobility. What the mistake have bad mobility. What the mistake have bad mobility. What the mistake people will often make with uh people will often make with uh people will often make with uh replacement is they they they start to replacement is they they they start to replacement is they they they start to go crazy. They try to really challenge go crazy. They try to really challenge go crazy. They try to really challenge and those joints, those replacement and those joints, those replacement and those joints, those replacement joints are not made to do that and so joints are not made to do that and so joints are not made to do that and so they cause problems. But if you get if they cause problems. But if you get if they cause problems. But if you get if you do good uh like you go into it you do good uh like you go into it you do good uh like you go into it strong and healthy and you come out of strong and healthy and you come out of strong and healthy and you come out of it and you're very diligent about your it and you're very diligent about your it and you're very diligent about your rehab and your strengthening, you'll be rehab and your strengthening, you'll be rehab and your strengthening, you'll be fine. fine. fine. &gt;&gt; Okay. Thank you guys very much. &gt;&gt; Okay. Thank you guys very much. &gt;&gt; Okay. Thank you guys very much. &gt;&gt; I have a question. Tiffany, would you be &gt;&gt; I have a question. Tiffany, would you be &gt;&gt; I have a question. Tiffany, would you be open to working with a coach between now open to working with a coach between now open to working with a coach between now and November to work on the things we and November to work on the things we and November to work on the things we talked about because I think it would be talked about because I think it would be talked about because I think it would be very helpful to have somebody uh work very helpful to have somebody uh work very helpful to have somebody uh work with you, especially with nutrition to with you, especially with nutrition to with you, especially with nutrition to get you to that point. Is that would you get you to that point. Is that would you get you to that point. Is that would you be open to that or be open to that or be open to that or &gt;&gt; Absolutely. Absolutely. For me, my &gt;&gt; Absolutely. Absolutely. For me, my &gt;&gt; Absolutely. Absolutely. For me, my biggest thing is I don't train as much biggest thing is I don't train as much biggest thing is I don't train as much like I my training sessions are closer like I my training sessions are closer like I my training sessions are closer to like the trigger set not trigger your to like the trigger set not trigger your to like the trigger set not trigger your 15 minutes or 30 minutes cuz I'm 15 minutes or 30 minutes cuz I'm 15 minutes or 30 minutes cuz I'm &gt;&gt; That's okay. Yeah, that's good. That's &gt;&gt; That's okay. Yeah, that's good. That's &gt;&gt; That's okay. Yeah, that's good. That's better. Yeah. better. Yeah. better. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's fine. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's fine. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that's fine. &gt;&gt; That's totally fine. &gt;&gt; That's totally fine. &gt;&gt; That's totally fine. &gt;&gt; Okay. I'm I'm going have a coach call &gt;&gt; Okay. I'm I'm going have a coach call &gt;&gt; Okay. I'm I'm going have a coach call you, Tiffany. you, Tiffany. you, Tiffany. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Thank you very much. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Thank you very much. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Thank you very much. &gt;&gt; You got it. Thank you. &gt;&gt; You got it. Thank you. &gt;&gt; You got it. Thank you. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, um I mean, I have my um &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, um I mean, I have my um &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, um I mean, I have my um uh I have my suspicions on what I think uh I have my suspicions on what I think uh I have my suspicions on what I think that the challenge is. Um uh that's why that the challenge is. Um uh that's why that the challenge is. Um uh that's why I asked for a bone a bone density test I asked for a bone a bone density test I asked for a bone a bone density test will tell us. will tell us. will tell us. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uhhuh. &gt;&gt; Uh right out the gates if if that's the &gt;&gt; Uh right out the gates if if that's the &gt;&gt; Uh right out the gates if if that's the case. But I'll tell you what, look, if case. But I'll tell you what, look, if case. But I'll tell you what, look, if you go into surgery, okay, if you have you go into surgery, okay, if you have you go into surgery, okay, if you have two people that work out, one person two people that work out, one person two people that work out, one person goes in overweight, remember they both goes in overweight, remember they both goes in overweight, remember they both work out, so they both they both work out, so they both they both work out, so they both they both exercise. One goes in overweight, one exercise. One goes in overweight, one exercise. One goes in overweight, one goes in underweight. Underweight, far goes in underweight. Underweight, far goes in underweight. Underweight, far worse recovery, worse recovery, worse recovery, &gt;&gt; of course, &gt;&gt; of course, &gt;&gt; of course, &gt;&gt; far worse recovery. Being underweight uh &gt;&gt; far worse recovery. Being underweight uh &gt;&gt; far worse recovery. Being underweight uh puts you at a high risk with any kind of puts you at a high risk with any kind of puts you at a high risk with any kind of illness or injury or surgery. illness or injury or surgery. illness or injury or surgery. &gt;&gt; You just cuz cat you're catabolic &gt;&gt; You just cuz cat you're catabolic &gt;&gt; You just cuz cat you're catabolic postsurgery. postsurgery. postsurgery. &gt;&gt; Well, and there's nothing to tap into. &gt;&gt; Well, and there's nothing to tap into. &gt;&gt; Well, and there's nothing to tap into. That's where that's what I mean. That's That's where that's what I mean. That's That's where that's what I mean. That's what my point was. Of course, going what my point was. Of course, going what my point was. Of course, going through Whole Foods, but I [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] she's through Whole Foods, but I [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] she's through Whole Foods, but I [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] she's allowed to have cake. She's allowed to allowed to have cake. She's allowed to allowed to have cake. She's allowed to eat. I want calories. eat. I want calories. eat. I want calories. &gt;&gt; She needs to put She needs to put &gt;&gt; She needs to put She needs to put &gt;&gt; She needs to put She needs to put calories. calories. calories. &gt;&gt; I'd like to see where they're at cuz &gt;&gt; I'd like to see where they're at cuz &gt;&gt; I'd like to see where they're at cuz she's saying she eats a lot, but I she's saying she eats a lot, but I she's saying she eats a lot, but I People are always People are always People are always &gt;&gt; Yeah, but that's No, who knows? &gt;&gt; Yeah, but that's No, who knows? &gt;&gt; Yeah, but that's No, who knows? &gt;&gt; You're not eating. You can't be possibly not. not. &gt;&gt; Yeah, exactly. I mean, you could be &gt;&gt; Yeah, exactly. I mean, you could be &gt;&gt; Yeah, exactly. I mean, you could be eating a lot of very low calorie foods eating a lot of very low calorie foods eating a lot of very low calorie foods that are not and she needs calories. And that are not and she needs calories. And that are not and she needs calories. And my and the reason why I asked her just my and the reason why I asked her just my and the reason why I asked her just for people listening like uh you know for people listening like uh you know for people listening like uh you know we've worked with enough people and when we've worked with enough people and when we've worked with enough people and when you when you go back to the initial you when you go back to the initial you when you go back to the initial motivation for why in ninth grade so motivation for why in ninth grade so motivation for why in ninth grade so that's a young age to really getting to that's a young age to really getting to that's a young age to really getting to work out getting into working out and if work out getting into working out and if work out getting into working out and if it's like I was really overweight or it's like I was really overweight or it's like I was really overweight or somebody died uh there's often this fear somebody died uh there's often this fear somebody died uh there's often this fear attached uh to uh what you're doing and attached uh to uh what you're doing and attached uh to uh what you're doing and that can lead you in a direction that is that can lead you in a direction that is that can lead you in a direction that is often not great. So often not great. So often not great. So &gt;&gt; well it could lead into the thing the &gt;&gt; well it could lead into the thing the &gt;&gt; well it could lead into the thing the very thing that you fear something very thing that you fear something very thing that you fear something unhealthy. That's right. unhealthy. That's right. unhealthy. That's right. &gt;&gt; Because if she gets that test back and &gt;&gt; Because if she gets that test back and &gt;&gt; Because if she gets that test back and her bone density is really bad, that's her bone density is really bad, that's her bone density is really bad, that's just as unhealthy, just in a different just as unhealthy, just in a different just as unhealthy, just in a different direction. Our next caller is Heather direction. Our next caller is Heather direction. Our next caller is Heather from Michigan. from Michigan. from Michigan. &gt;&gt; Hi, Heather. &gt;&gt; Hi, Heather. &gt;&gt; Hi, Heather. &gt;&gt; How you doing, Heather? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Heather? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Heather? &gt;&gt; Hey, guys. Um, very excited to be on the &gt;&gt; Hey, guys. Um, very excited to be on the &gt;&gt; Hey, guys. Um, very excited to be on the podcast. I've been listening to you for podcast. I've been listening to you for podcast. I've been listening to you for going on seven years, I think. Um, so going on seven years, I think. Um, so going on seven years, I think. Um, so yeah, you've been my source of yeah, you've been my source of yeah, you've been my source of entertainment, education for fitness for entertainment, education for fitness for entertainment, education for fitness for a long, long time. So, I really a long, long time. So, I really a long, long time. So, I really appreciate it. But appreciate it. But appreciate it. But &gt;&gt; Cool. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Cool. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Cool. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, like like most people, I'll &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, like like most people, I'll &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, like like most people, I'll just read my question. Um, I'm a just read my question. Um, I'm a just read my question. Um, I'm a 28-year-old female uh with an immense 28-year-old female uh with an immense 28-year-old female uh with an immense passion for health, fitness, and helping passion for health, fitness, and helping passion for health, fitness, and helping others. Throughout my life, I've played others. Throughout my life, I've played others. Throughout my life, I've played many sports, including running cross many sports, including running cross many sports, including running cross country and track at the collegiate country and track at the collegiate country and track at the collegiate level. However, now that I've graduated level. However, now that I've graduated level. However, now that I've graduated college, I have solely focused on college, I have solely focused on college, I have solely focused on staying active through resistance staying active through resistance staying active through resistance training and walking/hiking. I have a training and walking/hiking. I have a training and walking/hiking. I have a bachelor's degree in athletic training, bachelor's degree in athletic training, bachelor's degree in athletic training, and I've always been super interested in and I've always been super interested in and I've always been super interested in health and fitness. However, I don't health and fitness. However, I don't health and fitness. However, I don't have a personal training certificate. have a personal training certificate. have a personal training certificate. Um, I've been listening to Mind Pump for Um, I've been listening to Mind Pump for Um, I've been listening to Mind Pump for going on seven years now and I've going on seven years now and I've going on seven years now and I've learned so much from St. Adam and learned so much from St. Adam and learned so much from St. Adam and Justin. I even got the chance to meet Justin. I even got the chance to meet Justin. I even got the chance to meet you guys at the Olympia a few years ago. you guys at the Olympia a few years ago. you guys at the Olympia a few years ago. Um, so I'd love to know what's the best Um, so I'd love to know what's the best Um, so I'd love to know what's the best path for someone who doesn't have direct path for someone who doesn't have direct path for someone who doesn't have direct experience with training clients to experience with training clients to experience with training clients to become a Mind Pump certified personal become a Mind Pump certified personal become a Mind Pump certified personal trainer. Um, I just think fitness has trainer. Um, I just think fitness has trainer. Um, I just think fitness has always been a big passion of mine and always been a big passion of mine and always been a big passion of mine and I've been working in the supplement I've been working in the supplement I've been working in the supplement industry for for several years now and industry for for several years now and industry for for several years now and I'm just considering starting it either I'm just considering starting it either I'm just considering starting it either as like a side hustle or maybe even a a as like a side hustle or maybe even a a as like a side hustle or maybe even a a career change. But I'm just curious what career change. But I'm just curious what career change. But I'm just curious what your guys' thoughts are cuz I know a lot your guys' thoughts are cuz I know a lot your guys' thoughts are cuz I know a lot of people or a lot of companies they of people or a lot of companies they of people or a lot of companies they want someone with experience, right? I want someone with experience, right? I want someone with experience, right? I mean that's that's the biggest um thing mean that's that's the biggest um thing mean that's that's the biggest um thing that they're looking for. So, for me, that they're looking for. So, for me, that they're looking for. So, for me, um, beyond getting maybe some um, beyond getting maybe some um, beyond getting maybe some certifications through NASM or something certifications through NASM or something certifications through NASM or something like that, um, yeah, I'm just curious like that, um, yeah, I'm just curious like that, um, yeah, I'm just curious what you guys are your thoughts are on what you guys are your thoughts are on what you guys are your thoughts are on someone who's looking to get into someone who's looking to get into someone who's looking to get into personal training. personal training. personal training. &gt;&gt; Well, this is cool. &gt;&gt; Well, this is cool. &gt;&gt; Well, this is cool. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So, you want us to interview? We'll do a &gt;&gt; So, you want us to interview? We'll do a &gt;&gt; So, you want us to interview? We'll do a little pre let's do a little pre-in little pre let's do a little pre-in little pre let's do a little pre-in right now. right now. right now. &gt;&gt; So, okay. So, we've we've fully &gt;&gt; So, okay. So, we've we've fully &gt;&gt; So, okay. So, we've we've fully empowered Kyle, who runs our fitness empowered Kyle, who runs our fitness empowered Kyle, who runs our fitness department. So, he makes the decisions department. So, he makes the decisions department. So, he makes the decisions &gt;&gt; on who works here. Uh, but we could talk &gt;&gt; on who works here. Uh, but we could talk &gt;&gt; on who works here. Uh, but we could talk a little bit about the culture and what a little bit about the culture and what a little bit about the culture and what we're looking for with our coaches. Um, we're looking for with our coaches. Um, we're looking for with our coaches. Um, and we've said this before, um, we don't and we've said this before, um, we don't and we've said this before, um, we don't hire trainers, we make them. So, I'm far hire trainers, we make them. So, I'm far hire trainers, we make them. So, I'm far less interested in a trainer who's got less interested in a trainer who's got less interested in a trainer who's got all this pedigree, but if they don't all this pedigree, but if they don't all this pedigree, but if they don't have the right character, I I could care have the right character, I I could care have the right character, I I could care less. Um, uh, one of our, like who now less. Um, uh, one of our, like who now less. Um, uh, one of our, like who now runs our sales department, uh, who's runs our sales department, uh, who's runs our sales department, uh, who's excellent, does a great job. Marcelo, excellent, does a great job. Marcelo, excellent, does a great job. Marcelo, uh, less than a year ago, I think, still uh, less than a year ago, I think, still uh, less than a year ago, I think, still was a police officer. So, he had no, uh, was a police officer. So, he had no, uh, was a police officer. So, he had no, uh, experience. I mean, he worked out on his experience. I mean, he worked out on his experience. I mean, he worked out on his own, but he had no experience, and now own, but he had no experience, and now own, but he had no experience, and now he does a phenomenal job for us. So, he does a phenomenal job for us. So, he does a phenomenal job for us. So, we're looking for character more than we're looking for character more than we're looking for character more than anything. So, but I want to hear from anything. So, but I want to hear from anything. So, but I want to hear from you. What makes you want to work uh at you. What makes you want to work uh at you. What makes you want to work uh at Mind Pump? What makes you want to be a Mind Pump? What makes you want to be a Mind Pump? What makes you want to be a Mind Pump trainer or coach? Mind Pump trainer or coach? Mind Pump trainer or coach? &gt;&gt; I think it's it's mainly the message you &gt;&gt; I think it's it's mainly the message you &gt;&gt; I think it's it's mainly the message you guys put out. You know, obviously being guys put out. You know, obviously being guys put out. You know, obviously being a fitness fanatic, I've always went a fitness fanatic, I've always went a fitness fanatic, I've always went after like, you know, optimizing after like, you know, optimizing after like, you know, optimizing everything. And I think now that I've everything. And I think now that I've everything. And I think now that I've kind of gone through my own fitness kind of gone through my own fitness kind of gone through my own fitness journey and I'm getting older, I'm journey and I'm getting older, I'm journey and I'm getting older, I'm starting to realize how important it is starting to realize how important it is starting to realize how important it is to to to be like more simplified and have a more be like more simplified and have a more be like more simplified and have a more realistic approach to training. Like not realistic approach to training. Like not realistic approach to training. Like not everybody has time to train um or even everybody has time to train um or even everybody has time to train um or even wants to train, you know, five, six days wants to train, you know, five, six days wants to train, you know, five, six days a week. So, I love the message you guys a week. So, I love the message you guys a week. So, I love the message you guys preach in terms of sustainability and preach in terms of sustainability and preach in terms of sustainability and making these small changes that really making these small changes that really making these small changes that really impact people's lives. Like, and to me, impact people's lives. Like, and to me, impact people's lives. Like, and to me, I feel like beyond the paycheck, beyond I feel like beyond the paycheck, beyond I feel like beyond the paycheck, beyond all that, like that makes such a bigger all that, like that makes such a bigger all that, like that makes such a bigger impact. Um, it's like if I could use impact. Um, it's like if I could use impact. Um, it's like if I could use this knowledge I have that I've gained this knowledge I have that I've gained this knowledge I have that I've gained and also build upon that maybe from and also build upon that maybe from and also build upon that maybe from learning, you know, from you guys and learning, you know, from you guys and learning, you know, from you guys and the trainers and whatnot that I could the trainers and whatnot that I could the trainers and whatnot that I could help others. And I I mean, to me, it's help others. And I I mean, to me, it's help others. And I I mean, to me, it's like a win-win situation. So, I just like a win-win situation. So, I just like a win-win situation. So, I just love, like I said, the message you guys love, like I said, the message you guys love, like I said, the message you guys preach and all the things that I've preach and all the things that I've preach and all the things that I've learned and through experience through, learned and through experience through, learned and through experience through, like I said, my own journey, I've I've like I said, my own journey, I've I've like I said, my own journey, I've I've realized like, wow, this is um something realized like, wow, this is um something realized like, wow, this is um something where there's so many people out there where there's so many people out there where there's so many people out there that, you know, their lives could that, you know, their lives could that, you know, their lives could benefit from this. And I would just love benefit from this. And I would just love benefit from this. And I would just love to even just help some people. It to even just help some people. It to even just help some people. It doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't have to be like thousands of people, but have to be like thousands of people, but have to be like thousands of people, but um yeah, that's just where my true um yeah, that's just where my true um yeah, that's just where my true passion lies. I think I have experienced passion lies. I think I have experienced passion lies. I think I have experienced that through even my own career. I'm that through even my own career. I'm that through even my own career. I'm like, I really enjoy this. And if it's like, I really enjoy this. And if it's like, I really enjoy this. And if it's like if I could build a career through like if I could build a career through like if I could build a career through that, I mean, that would be a dream for that, I mean, that would be a dream for that, I mean, that would be a dream for me. me. me. &gt;&gt; What are you currently doing? Cool. What &gt;&gt; What are you currently doing? Cool. What &gt;&gt; What are you currently doing? Cool. What do you do right now? do you do right now? do you do right now? &gt;&gt; Um, I'm a uh regulatory analyst for a a &gt;&gt; Um, I'm a uh regulatory analyst for a a &gt;&gt; Um, I'm a uh regulatory analyst for a a supplement company. So, um, basically supplement company. So, um, basically supplement company. So, um, basically helping on project teams to uh develop helping on project teams to uh develop helping on project teams to uh develop different nutritional products to make different nutritional products to make different nutritional products to make sure they're compliant with like US and sure they're compliant with like US and sure they're compliant with like US and can uh Canada regulations. So, can uh Canada regulations. So, can uh Canada regulations. So, &gt;&gt; how long you been doing that for? &gt;&gt; how long you been doing that for? &gt;&gt; how long you been doing that for? um just a year because um previous to um just a year because um previous to um just a year because um previous to that I was working for some other that I was working for some other that I was working for some other supplement companies doing product supplement companies doing product supplement companies doing product development and formulation. Um but uh development and formulation. Um but uh development and formulation. Um but uh this company is located in Michigan and this company is located in Michigan and this company is located in Michigan and that's where my family's from. So I that's where my family's from. So I that's where my family's from. So I wanted to get back to being closer to wanted to get back to being closer to wanted to get back to being closer to family. It was very important to me. So family. It was very important to me. So family. It was very important to me. So I used to live in Pennsylvania and then I used to live in Pennsylvania and then I used to live in Pennsylvania and then I lived in Jersey and I worked for a I lived in Jersey and I worked for a I lived in Jersey and I worked for a couple different sports nutrition couple different sports nutrition couple different sports nutrition companies doing um yeah product companies doing um yeah product companies doing um yeah product formulation. So formulation. So formulation. So &gt;&gt; was it always the career that made you &gt;&gt; was it always the career that made you &gt;&gt; was it always the career that made you move? Was that how you left? I mean how move? Was that how you left? I mean how move? Was that how you left? I mean how did you Okay. Yeah, basically. But, you did you Okay. Yeah, basically. But, you did you Okay. Yeah, basically. But, you know, as you get older and your parents know, as you get older and your parents know, as you get older and your parents get older and, you know, all my siblings get older and, you know, all my siblings get older and, you know, all my siblings and whatnot, I was like, I don't want to and whatnot, I was like, I don't want to and whatnot, I was like, I don't want to miss out on that. I feel like, miss out on that. I feel like, miss out on that. I feel like, &gt;&gt; you know, I kind of did what I wanted to &gt;&gt; you know, I kind of did what I wanted to &gt;&gt; you know, I kind of did what I wanted to do and experienced leaving, you know, do and experienced leaving, you know, do and experienced leaving, you know, leaving my home state and everything um leaving my home state and everything um leaving my home state and everything um to do those things. And I was fortunate to do those things. And I was fortunate to do those things. And I was fortunate enough to to get those opportunities at enough to to get those opportunities at enough to to get those opportunities at a young age out of college. Um, it was a young age out of college. Um, it was a young age out of college. Um, it was kind of a non-traditional path for me kind of a non-traditional path for me kind of a non-traditional path for me because I had a like I said, I had a because I had a like I said, I had a because I had a like I said, I had a degree in athletic training, so nothing degree in athletic training, so nothing degree in athletic training, so nothing to do with supplements necessarily. So, to do with supplements necessarily. So, to do with supplements necessarily. So, it was all like self-taught and just it was all like self-taught and just it was all like self-taught and just worked my way up from there. worked my way up from there. worked my way up from there. &gt;&gt; Okay, that sounds good. I like that you &gt;&gt; Okay, that sounds good. I like that you &gt;&gt; Okay, that sounds good. I like that you want to be around family. The only want to be around family. The only want to be around family. The only challenge is uh what we're really challenge is uh what we're really challenge is uh what we're really interested in right now are people who interested in right now are people who interested in right now are people who live uh here um in California. Um live uh here um in California. Um live uh here um in California. Um because we're looking for we want we because we're looking for we want we because we're looking for we want we like the culture or I should I say we like the culture or I should I say we like the culture or I should I say we value the culture that we're building value the culture that we're building value the culture that we're building and uh we do have remote coaches uh but and uh we do have remote coaches uh but and uh we do have remote coaches uh but it's uh the culture that we have here is it's uh the culture that we have here is it's uh the culture that we have here is what we're most interested in. So, I what we're most interested in. So, I what we're most interested in. So, I don't know if that's even something don't know if that's even something don't know if that's even something that's uh plausible for you to move uh that's uh plausible for you to move uh that's uh plausible for you to move uh and live somewhere else. Um you know, and live somewhere else. Um you know, and live somewhere else. Um you know, like here in California. like here in California. like here in California. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I' I've visited California a &gt;&gt; Yeah, I' I've visited California a &gt;&gt; Yeah, I' I've visited California a handful of times. We actually had a handful of times. We actually had a handful of times. We actually had a manufacturer out there um we used to manufacturer out there um we used to manufacturer out there um we used to work with. So, I I've been out there. work with. So, I I've been out there. work with. So, I I've been out there. That's why I wanted to kind of chat with That's why I wanted to kind of chat with That's why I wanted to kind of chat with you guys if there was any opportunity you guys if there was any opportunity you guys if there was any opportunity for maybe whether it's maybe doing for maybe whether it's maybe doing for maybe whether it's maybe doing training in person and then eventually training in person and then eventually training in person and then eventually going remote. I don't know what that going remote. I don't know what that going remote. I don't know what that would look like, but I guess that was would look like, but I guess that was would look like, but I guess that was part of maybe this question as well. um part of maybe this question as well. um part of maybe this question as well. um if you guys are looking to if you guys are looking to if you guys are looking to &gt;&gt; because I like I said I I know based on &gt;&gt; because I like I said I I know based on &gt;&gt; because I like I said I I know based on my athletic training degree it's very my athletic training degree it's very my athletic training degree it's very valuable to get hands-on experience and valuable to get hands-on experience and valuable to get hands-on experience and to be there and you get the most out of to be there and you get the most out of to be there and you get the most out of any experience doing that. Um but I any experience doing that. Um but I any experience doing that. Um but I don't know if you guys like I wanted to don't know if you guys like I wanted to don't know if you guys like I wanted to get an understanding of your goal if get an understanding of your goal if get an understanding of your goal if it's like hey we want to be able to have it's like hey we want to be able to have it's like hey we want to be able to have trainers accessible across the US or or trainers accessible across the US or or trainers accessible across the US or or what that looked like. what that looked like. what that looked like. &gt;&gt; We have both we have so we have remote &gt;&gt; We have both we have so we have remote &gt;&gt; We have both we have so we have remote coaches too and uh and you would get a coaches too and uh and you would get a coaches too and uh and you would get a training you get a week here. Uh, so training you get a week here. Uh, so training you get a week here. Uh, so typically what Kyle does, if you pass typically what Kyle does, if you pass typically what Kyle does, if you pass the interview with him and uh, you want the interview with him and uh, you want the interview with him and uh, you want to live where you're at currently, then to live where you're at currently, then to live where you're at currently, then he'd have like a week where you would he'd have like a week where you would he'd have like a week where you would fly out here and you do in-person fly out here and you do in-person fly out here and you do in-person training with the team. You you'd meet training with the team. You you'd meet training with the team. You you'd meet all the trainers here. You'd meet us, all the trainers here. You'd meet us, all the trainers here. You'd meet us, work here for a week, uh, where you work here for a week, uh, where you work here for a week, uh, where you learn all the systems, and then he'd learn all the systems, and then he'd learn all the systems, and then he'd send you back home. And then and some of send you back home. And then and some of send you back home. And then and some of the some of the trainers, they're the some of the trainers, they're the some of the trainers, they're currently remote with the ultimate goal currently remote with the ultimate goal currently remote with the ultimate goal to move up in the company and then maybe to move up in the company and then maybe to move up in the company and then maybe come back this way. some of them want to come back this way. some of them want to come back this way. some of them want to stay remote and just be a remote coach stay remote and just be a remote coach stay remote and just be a remote coach for us. Uh, as far as career-wise, the for us. Uh, as far as career-wise, the for us. Uh, as far as career-wise, the there's way more money in coming back there's way more money in coming back there's way more money in coming back and and moving up. And so, it's kind of and and moving up. And so, it's kind of and and moving up. And so, it's kind of how the system we've built is we how the system we've built is we how the system we've built is we understand people have lives over there understand people have lives over there understand people have lives over there and they want to slowly scale, but and they want to slowly scale, but and they want to slowly scale, but ultimately if you wanted to make a ultimately if you wanted to make a ultimately if you wanted to make a career out of it, you'd want to work for career out of it, you'd want to work for career out of it, you'd want to work for the company where the company is at. the company where the company is at. the company where the company is at. &gt;&gt; That's where the opportunity &gt;&gt; That's where the opportunity &gt;&gt; That's where the opportunity &gt;&gt; that's where all the opportunity for &gt;&gt; that's where all the opportunity for &gt;&gt; that's where all the opportunity for growth and actual real income is at. But growth and actual real income is at. But growth and actual real income is at. But you can still uh make money by being a you can still uh make money by being a you can still uh make money by being a remote coach and and doing that. And we remote coach and and doing that. And we remote coach and and doing that. And we have quite a few of those. We have more have quite a few of those. We have more have quite a few of those. We have more remote coaches than we have personal remote coaches than we have personal remote coaches than we have personal coaches. We've only got about nine here coaches. We've only got about nine here coaches. We've only got about nine here and we have about 12 that are remote. and we have about 12 that are remote. and we have about 12 that are remote. And so that is a possibility. And that's And so that is a possibility. And that's And so that is a possibility. And that's what that pathway looks like. It would what that pathway looks like. It would what that pathway looks like. It would look like interviewing with Kyle. He look like interviewing with Kyle. He look like interviewing with Kyle. He thinks you're a great fit. Uh then he thinks you're a great fit. Uh then he thinks you're a great fit. Uh then he would schedule a week where you would would schedule a week where you would would schedule a week where you would come out here for a week and you you come out here for a week and you you come out here for a week and you you would work uh with us for a week and would work uh with us for a week and would work uh with us for a week and then send you with all our systems and then send you with all our systems and then send you with all our systems and how it works. And then they they'd slow how it works. And then they they'd slow how it works. And then they they'd slow you, scale you up with clients and then you, scale you up with clients and then you, scale you up with clients and then that's how you would do that. that's how you would do that. that's how you would do that. &gt;&gt; But just just if I you know just to give &gt;&gt; But just just if I you know just to give &gt;&gt; But just just if I you know just to give you an edge uh there's a higher you an edge uh there's a higher you an edge uh there's a higher consideration when someone's like I'll consideration when someone's like I'll consideration when someone's like I'll be willing to live here because that's be willing to live here because that's be willing to live here because that's what we're most interested in. Uh you what we're most interested in. Uh you what we're most interested in. Uh you know I don't I don't get face toface know I don't I don't get face toface know I don't I don't get face toface time with my remote coaches uh and time with my remote coaches uh and time with my remote coaches uh and neither does Kyle uh very often. But the neither does Kyle uh very often. But the neither does Kyle uh very often. But the coaches that are here uh this is these coaches that are here uh this is these coaches that are here uh this is these this is the family. this is what really this is the family. this is what really this is the family. this is what really now we all consider everybody family but now we all consider everybody family but now we all consider everybody family but when you're here when you're here when you're here &gt;&gt; uh this is this is where everything &gt;&gt; uh this is this is where everything &gt;&gt; uh this is this is where everything happens uh and so that's the edge so happens uh and so that's the edge so happens uh and so that's the edge so when someone's like I'm willing to move when someone's like I'm willing to move when someone's like I'm willing to move &gt;&gt; and I'll come intern for a month and &gt;&gt; and I'll come intern for a month and &gt;&gt; and I'll come intern for a month and learn and show you uh that I'm good and learn and show you uh that I'm good and learn and show you uh that I'm good and then I'll move here and make it happen then I'll move here and make it happen then I'll move here and make it happen uh that places you near the top of the uh that places you near the top of the uh that places you near the top of the list of uh people to consider. So just list of uh people to consider. So just list of uh people to consider. So just for you if you end up uh applying and for you if you end up uh applying and for you if you end up uh applying and talking to Kyle if that's an if that's talking to Kyle if that's an if that's talking to Kyle if that's an if that's something you're open to then I would something you're open to then I would something you're open to then I would communicate that. If not don't say it. communicate that. If not don't say it. communicate that. If not don't say it. Uh but it does give it does give you an Uh but it does give it does give you an Uh but it does give it does give you an edge. Are you in our certification edge. Are you in our certification edge. Are you in our certification course? course? course? &gt;&gt; Not yet. No. And so like ever since I &gt;&gt; Not yet. No. And so like ever since I &gt;&gt; Not yet. No. And so like ever since I started thinking about this and I started thinking about this and I started thinking about this and I submitted my question, I've been, you submitted my question, I've been, you submitted my question, I've been, you know, I've been considering this for a know, I've been considering this for a know, I've been considering this for a while, but I started to look, you know, while, but I started to look, you know, while, but I started to look, you know, more into obviously NASM and then your more into obviously NASM and then your more into obviously NASM and then your guys's um elite trainer course as well. guys's um elite trainer course as well. guys's um elite trainer course as well. Uh so I started to look into all those Uh so I started to look into all those Uh so I started to look into all those things and that's why I was like well things and that's why I was like well things and that's why I was like well I'd love to talk to them to kind of chat I'd love to talk to them to kind of chat I'd love to talk to them to kind of chat through what they recommend me maybe through what they recommend me maybe through what they recommend me maybe starting with or what based on my goal starting with or what based on my goal starting with or what based on my goal of you know becoming a personal trainer of you know becoming a personal trainer of you know becoming a personal trainer and like I said I wouldn't really want and like I said I wouldn't really want and like I said I wouldn't really want to learn from anybody else cuz I just I to learn from anybody else cuz I just I to learn from anybody else cuz I just I align with your guys' you know message align with your guys' you know message align with your guys' you know message or values and uh yeah that's what I or values and uh yeah that's what I or values and uh yeah that's what I would want to would want to would want to &gt;&gt; the what I my recommendation then would &gt;&gt; the what I my recommendation then would &gt;&gt; the what I my recommendation then would be to get into the lead trainer course be to get into the lead trainer course be to get into the lead trainer course for sure because then you're no matter for sure because then you're no matter for sure because then you're no matter what you're learning from us there are what you're learning from us there are what you're learning from us there are in there in there in there &gt;&gt; right and it's designed to help somebody &gt;&gt; right and it's designed to help somebody &gt;&gt; right and it's designed to help somebody from where you're at build a business. from where you're at build a business. from where you're at build a business. So whether you end up working for us So whether you end up working for us So whether you end up working for us directly or not, the next step I would directly or not, the next step I would directly or not, the next step I would go is go right into Elite Trainer go is go right into Elite Trainer go is go right into Elite Trainer Academy, get in there and then also Academy, get in there and then also Academy, get in there and then also apply with Kyle and and that's at apply with Kyle and and that's at apply with Kyle and and that's at mindpubjob.com. And so if you do that, mindpubjob.com. And so if you do that, mindpubjob.com. And so if you do that, that would be your first one and twostep that would be your first one and twostep that would be your first one and twostep no matter what. no matter what. no matter what. &gt;&gt; You already have a bachelor degree in &gt;&gt; You already have a bachelor degree in &gt;&gt; You already have a bachelor degree in athletic training. NASM would be like we athletic training. NASM would be like we athletic training. NASM would be like we would look at NASM like your degree. would look at NASM like your degree. would look at NASM like your degree. &gt;&gt; Uh but our our certification weighs much &gt;&gt; Uh but our our certification weighs much &gt;&gt; Uh but our our certification weighs much higher. Uh because it's it's again it's higher. Uh because it's it's again it's higher. Uh because it's it's again it's our philosophy. It's our culture. our philosophy. It's our culture. our philosophy. It's our culture. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. And we're teaching you the &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. And we're teaching you the &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. And we're teaching you the things we would teach you if you worked things we would teach you if you worked things we would teach you if you worked here in that course. here in that course. here in that course. &gt;&gt; And like even if I even if you didn't &gt;&gt; And like even if I even if you didn't &gt;&gt; And like even if I even if you didn't work for us and you it still would be work for us and you it still would be work for us and you it still would be the pathway because like Sal said, you the pathway because like Sal said, you the pathway because like Sal said, you already have a degree in the field and already have a degree in the field and already have a degree in the field and so in the field that's as weighted as an so in the field that's as weighted as an so in the field that's as weighted as an NASM is or anything else is. And so you NASM is or anything else is. And so you NASM is or anything else is. And so you already have some good formal education. already have some good formal education. already have some good formal education. Ours is more heavily on our philosophy Ours is more heavily on our philosophy Ours is more heavily on our philosophy and application and then the business and application and then the business and application and then the business side. And so which I think will serve side. And so which I think will serve side. And so which I think will serve you no matter what whether you're you no matter what whether you're you no matter what whether you're working with us or not. And so I I would working with us or not. And so I I would working with us or not. And so I I would get into that and then I would and then get into that and then I would and then get into that and then I would and then I'd reach out to Kyle by applying. I'd reach out to Kyle by applying. I'd reach out to Kyle by applying. &gt;&gt; Let me do this, Heather. Let me have my &gt;&gt; Let me do this, Heather. Let me have my &gt;&gt; Let me do this, Heather. Let me have my education director call you and talk to education director call you and talk to education director call you and talk to you about our course. Uh because she you about our course. Uh because she you about our course. Uh because she runs all of our education and then uh if runs all of our education and then uh if runs all of our education and then uh if this all sounds good, you apply at this all sounds good, you apply at this all sounds good, you apply at mindpunjob.com and you can say in there mindpunjob.com and you can say in there mindpunjob.com and you can say in there that you talked to us uh here on the that you talked to us uh here on the that you talked to us uh here on the podcast and we sent you there. podcast and we sent you there. podcast and we sent you there. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Okay. Awesome. I'm really looking &gt;&gt; Okay. Awesome. I'm really looking &gt;&gt; Okay. Awesome. I'm really looking forward to this. Like I said, this is forward to this. Like I said, this is forward to this. Like I said, this is surreal since I've been listening to you surreal since I've been listening to you surreal since I've been listening to you guys for so long and guys for so long and guys for so long and &gt;&gt; I've learned so much not only about like &gt;&gt; I've learned so much not only about like &gt;&gt; I've learned so much not only about like how people say this a lot, you know, how people say this a lot, you know, how people say this a lot, you know, fitness, but just life in general. So, I fitness, but just life in general. So, I fitness, but just life in general. So, I really appreciate all the, you know, all really appreciate all the, you know, all really appreciate all the, you know, all the value you guys provide beyond just the value you guys provide beyond just the value you guys provide beyond just fitness education. So, fitness education. So, fitness education. So, &gt;&gt; yeah. Thank you so much. &gt;&gt; yeah. Thank you so much. &gt;&gt; yeah. Thank you so much. &gt;&gt; Appreciate that. Hopefully, we'll see &gt;&gt; Appreciate that. Hopefully, we'll see &gt;&gt; Appreciate that. Hopefully, we'll see you. Yes. you. Yes. you. Yes. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'll I'll do that. I I'm I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'll I'll do that. I I'm I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'll I'll do that. I I'm I'm looking forward to connecting with them. looking forward to connecting with them. looking forward to connecting with them. So, So, So, &gt;&gt; thank you. And we'll call you. &gt;&gt; thank you. And we'll call you. &gt;&gt; thank you. And we'll call you. &gt;&gt; See you. &gt;&gt; See you. &gt;&gt; See you. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, um uh for anybody &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, um uh for anybody &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, um uh for anybody listening, that's going to give you an listening, that's going to give you an listening, that's going to give you an edge. and and and you know, you're edge. and and and you know, you're edge. and and and you know, you're willing to come intern for a month. willing to come intern for a month. willing to come intern for a month. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Um and show that you got what it takes. &gt;&gt; Um and show that you got what it takes. &gt;&gt; Um and show that you got what it takes. It's definitely a privilege uh to be a It's definitely a privilege uh to be a It's definitely a privilege uh to be a coach here. coach here. coach here. &gt;&gt; Um the uh the amount of um learning, &gt;&gt; Um the uh the amount of um learning, &gt;&gt; Um the uh the amount of um learning, exposure, training, exposure, training, exposure, training, &gt;&gt; leads, &gt;&gt; leads, &gt;&gt; leads, &gt;&gt; types of clients you get here. &gt;&gt; types of clients you get here. &gt;&gt; types of clients you get here. Obviously, we have the largest uh Obviously, we have the largest uh Obviously, we have the largest uh fitness podcast in the world. So, it's fitness podcast in the world. So, it's fitness podcast in the world. So, it's just a crazy amount of potential clients just a crazy amount of potential clients just a crazy amount of potential clients that come through. that come through. that come through. &gt;&gt; But you got to reflect us and our &gt;&gt; But you got to reflect us and our &gt;&gt; But you got to reflect us and our philosophy. philosophy. philosophy. &gt;&gt; That's it. And what we want is &gt;&gt; That's it. And what we want is &gt;&gt; That's it. And what we want is character. um more than anything else, character. um more than anything else, character. um more than anything else, more than more than education, even more more than more than education, even more more than more than education, even more than experience. Experience is good, but than experience. Experience is good, but than experience. Experience is good, but even more than that. even more than that. even more than that. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. 30% body If you did, check this one out. 30% body If you did, check this one out. 30% body fat. For men, this is way too high. This fat. For men, this is way too high. This fat. For men, this is way too high. This is actually a bit high for women as is actually a bit high for women as is actually a bit high for women as well. So, in today's episode, we're well. So, in today's episode, we're well. So, in today's episode, we're talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%? Yes, it's possible, but from 30 to 10%? Yes, it's possible, but from 30 to 10%? Yes, it's possible, but not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do that. today's episode. that. today's episode. that. today's episode. &gt;&gt; Now, there's a huge range, right, of &gt;&gt; Now, there's a huge range, right, of &gt;&gt; Now, there's a huge range, right, of like body types.