You Won't Believe This Update On The Iran War & The WNBA Is About To Have A Reckoning

Good morning everybody. Welcome to Good morning everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Tom Billy Show another episode of the Tom Billy Show another episode of the Tom Billy Show live. Man, it was quite the weekend boys live. Man, it was quite the weekend boys live. Man, it was quite the weekend boys and girls. I hope that you guys were and girls. I hope that you guys were and girls. I hope that you guys were staying sane as there's plenty of news staying sane as there's plenty of news staying sane as there's plenty of news coming out that the world is entering a coming out that the world is entering a coming out that the world is entering a phase transition the likes of which we phase transition the likes of which we phase transition the likes of which we have never seen before. And one of those have never seen before. And one of those have never seen before. And one of those transitions is happening to the WNBA. transitions is happening to the WNBA. transitions is happening to the WNBA. Two former firstround NBA draft picks Two former firstround NBA draft picks Two former firstround NBA draft picks are planning to join the WNBA as are planning to join the WNBA as are planning to join the WNBA as players. as players. Transgenderism in players. as players. Transgenderism in players. as players. Transgenderism in sports is about to get its first real sports is about to get its first real sports is about to get its first real test. We're going to talk all about test. We're going to talk all about test. We're going to talk all about that. The Trump admin is trying out new that. The Trump admin is trying out new that. The Trump admin is trying out new propaganda as the war in Iran grows more propaganda as the war in Iran grows more propaganda as the war in Iran grows more impossible to win. That one's going to impossible to win. That one's going to impossible to win. That one's going to get weird. Locked and Rathon are worried get weird. Locked and Rathon are worried get weird. Locked and Rathon are worried Ukraine will improve Patriot missiles Ukraine will improve Patriot missiles Ukraine will improve Patriot missiles and produce them more cheaply. That is and produce them more cheaply. That is and produce them more cheaply. That is all but a guarantee. We're going to dive all but a guarantee. We're going to dive all but a guarantee. We're going to dive into why into why into why El Say the Senate uh Democrat front El Say the Senate uh Democrat front El Say the Senate uh Democrat front runner, he won the primary. He's coming runner, he won the primary. He's coming runner, he won the primary. He's coming in hot. He admits that for socialist in hot. He admits that for socialist in hot. He admits that for socialist policies to work, the middle class must policies to work, the middle class must policies to work, the middle class must pay more in taxes. I will say that I'm pay more in taxes. I will say that I'm pay more in taxes. I will say that I'm very happy that they're finally just very happy that they're finally just very happy that they're finally just saying the quiet part out loud now. saying the quiet part out loud now. saying the quiet part out loud now. We're going to go into that. Top We're going to go into that. Top We're going to go into that. Top longevity scientist says AI did 160 longevity scientist says AI did 160 longevity scientist says AI did 160 years of research in just a couple of years of research in just a couple of years of research in just a couple of months. As we debate whether AI is real months. As we debate whether AI is real months. As we debate whether AI is real or not, which I still can't believe or not, which I still can't believe or not, which I still can't believe people think it's a fad, uh we're going people think it's a fad, uh we're going people think it's a fad, uh we're going to talk about some of the areas that are to talk about some of the areas that are to talk about some of the areas that are being swept under the rug that are the being swept under the rug that are the being swept under the rug that are the real uh places of innovation. Chinese real uh places of innovation. Chinese real uh places of innovation. Chinese military hardware sold to the British military hardware sold to the British military hardware sold to the British Navy was secretly spying on the Navy and Navy was secretly spying on the Navy and Navy was secretly spying on the Navy and sending data back to China. Definitely sending data back to China. Definitely sending data back to China. Definitely going to talk about that. All eyes on going to talk about that. All eyes on going to talk about that. All eyes on China. And speaking of all eyes on China. And speaking of all eyes on China. And speaking of all eyes on China, China's central bank bought 20 China, China's central bank bought 20 China, China's central bank bought 20 more tons of gold in July and dumped more tons of gold in July and dumped more tons of gold in July and dumped even more US treasuries as they continue even more US treasuries as they continue even more US treasuries as they continue to race to get out from under the to race to get out from under the to race to get out from under the current dollar system. All right, current dollar system. All right, current dollar system. All right, everybody. This one blew me away. Two everybody. This one blew me away. Two everybody. This one blew me away. Two former NBA first round draft picks say former NBA first round draft picks say former NBA first round draft picks say that they are entering the 2027 WNBA that they are entering the 2027 WNBA that they are entering the 2027 WNBA draft. Now, they've made themselves draft. Now, they've made themselves draft. Now, they've made themselves eligible for the draft. We've got to eligible for the draft. We've got to eligible for the draft. We've got to make sure that we keep everything clear. make sure that we keep everything clear. make sure that we keep everything clear. It's not like they're already on a team It's not like they're already on a team It's not like they're already on a team and they're going to be playing, but it and they're going to be playing, but it and they're going to be playing, but it is very much causing a scramble. So, is very much causing a scramble. So, is very much causing a scramble. So, Andis Caner Freedom, third overall in Andis Caner Freedom, third overall in Andis Caner Freedom, third overall in the 2011 draft. He's 6 foot10. And Royce the 2011 draft. He's 6 foot10. And Royce the 2011 draft. He's 6 foot10. And Royce White, who uh I believe is calling White, who uh I believe is calling White, who uh I believe is calling himself Royia White now, was 16th himself Royia White now, was 16th himself Royia White now, was 16th overall in the 2012 draft, 6'8. Both overall in the 2012 draft, 6'8. Both overall in the 2012 draft, 6'8. Both declared on Friday. Both say they now declared on Friday. Both say they now declared on Friday. Both say they now identify as women. I think it is pretty identify as women. I think it is pretty identify as women. I think it is pretty clear that these two are trolling and clear that these two are trolling and clear that these two are trolling and they are forcing the WNBA to uh make a they are forcing the WNBA to uh make a they are forcing the WNBA to uh make a ruling and ultimately that's what's ruling and ultimately that's what's ruling and ultimately that's what's going to cover this. Neither of them are going to cover this. Neither of them are going to cover this. Neither of them are making out like this is sincere. Caner making out like this is sincere. Caner making out like this is sincere. Caner Freedom said that his team examined the Freedom said that his team examined the Freedom said that his team examined the league's eligibility criteria and that league's eligibility criteria and that league's eligibility criteria and that if declaring who you are is all that's if declaring who you are is all that's if declaring who you are is all that's needed to meet that requirement, then he needed to meet that requirement, then he needed to meet that requirement, then he meets the requirement and he signed off meets the requirement and he signed off meets the requirement and he signed off with see you at training camp. Now, with see you at training camp. Now, with see you at training camp. Now, again, I do not think that this is going again, I do not think that this is going again, I do not think that this is going to go all the way. And I believe that to go all the way. And I believe that to go all the way. And I believe that Royce is actually running for office. Royce is actually running for office. Royce is actually running for office. Drew, can you confirm? Is he running for Drew, can you confirm? Is he running for Drew, can you confirm? Is he running for Senate? So, I think he's doing this. I Senate? So, I think he's doing this. I Senate? So, I think he's doing this. I think he's trying to get attention think he's trying to get attention think he's trying to get attention basically for his campaign, and this is basically for his campaign, and this is basically for his campaign, and this is certainly an extraordinary way to do it. certainly an extraordinary way to do it. certainly an extraordinary way to do it. It would be absolutely hysterical if It would be absolutely hysterical if It would be absolutely hysterical if this went all the way to the WNBA, but this went all the way to the WNBA, but this went all the way to the WNBA, but let's hope that they maintain the uh let's hope that they maintain the uh let's hope that they maintain the uh sobriety that is needed to realize a sobriety that is needed to realize a sobriety that is needed to realize a very simple definition. very simple definition. very simple definition. will sort all of this out. As you guys will sort all of this out. As you guys will sort all of this out. As you guys know, I've got absolutely no beef with know, I've got absolutely no beef with know, I've got absolutely no beef with people being transgender. So, when it people being transgender. So, when it people being transgender. So, when it comes to sports, you simply have to say, comes to sports, you simply have to say, comes to sports, you simply have to say, listen, this is about people that are listen, this is about people that are listen, this is about people that are biologically born a certain way. That biologically born a certain way. That biologically born a certain way. That when physicality is a part of what's when physicality is a part of what's when physicality is a part of what's going on, that there is a reason that we going on, that there is a reason that we going on, that there is a reason that we have historically divided all of this have historically divided all of this have historically divided all of this stuff. Uh because if what you want to stuff. Uh because if what you want to stuff. Uh because if what you want to see is a subset like, okay, what do men see is a subset like, okay, what do men see is a subset like, okay, what do men look like when they play? And if you look like when they play? And if you look like when they play? And if you know you you start seeing that at the know you you start seeing that at the know you you start seeing that at the extreme edges of anything that minor extreme edges of anything that minor extreme edges of anything that minor differences in body composition in differences in body composition in differences in body composition in genetics are going to make a huge genetics are going to make a huge genetics are going to make a huge difference. So one of the stats that I difference. So one of the stats that I difference. So one of the stats that I find most fascinating is out of the top find most fascinating is out of the top find most fascinating is out of the top 100 um marathon runners something like 100 um marathon runners something like 100 um marathon runners something like 90% it might be a little bit higher but 90% it might be a little bit higher but 90% it might be a little bit higher but at least 90% of the top 100 are all of at least 90% of the top 100 are all of at least 90% of the top 100 are all of East African descent. Not that they are East African descent. Not that they are East African descent. Not that they are East a they live in East African East a they live in East African East a they live in East African nations, but they are all of East nations, but they are all of East nations, but they are all of East African descent. Similar ballpark, African descent. Similar ballpark, African descent. Similar ballpark, although I think it was slightly under although I think it was slightly under although I think it was slightly under 90% of Olympic sprinters, the top 100 90% of Olympic sprinters, the top 100 90% of Olympic sprinters, the top 100 Olympic sprinters are all of West Olympic sprinters are all of West Olympic sprinters are all of West African descent. Now, when you're sort African descent. Now, when you're sort African descent. Now, when you're sort of looking at the general populace, of looking at the general populace, of looking at the general populace, you're going to find plenty of fast you're going to find plenty of fast you're going to find plenty of fast people from all over the world, every people from all over the world, every people from all over the world, every ethnicity. But when you start pushing it ethnicity. But when you start pushing it ethnicity. But when you start pushing it out into the extremes of the best of the out into the extremes of the best of the out into the extremes of the best of the best of the best, then things really you best of the best, then things really you best of the best, then things really you start seeing the impacts of uh what start seeing the impacts of uh what start seeing the impacts of uh what might be relatively minor genetic might be relatively minor genetic might be relatively minor genetic differences, but nonetheless those differences, but nonetheless those differences, but nonetheless those played out on the extremes of the bell played out on the extremes of the bell played out on the extremes of the bell curve start creating something very curve start creating something very curve start creating something very different. And this is what in sports we different. And this is what in sports we different. And this is what in sports we need to recognize. We need to accept we need to recognize. We need to accept we need to recognize. We need to accept we are having a biological experience. I'm are having a biological experience. I'm are having a biological experience. I'm perfectly willing to accept that in the perfectly willing to accept that in the perfectly willing to accept that in the brain the sense of identity can be is a brain the sense of identity can be is a brain the sense of identity can be is a different region of the brain that plays different region of the brain that plays different region of the brain that plays out very differently from the physiology out very differently from the physiology out very differently from the physiology that you have. But to pretend that there that you have. But to pretend that there that you have. But to pretend that there aren't going to be averages where we are aren't going to be averages where we are aren't going to be averages where we are wildly more likely to line up with the wildly more likely to line up with the wildly more likely to line up with the biology that we have that all of those biology that we have that all of those biology that we have that all of those things will work in concert. That's things will work in concert. That's things will work in concert. That's where all of this stuff starts to where all of this stuff starts to where all of this stuff starts to derange. And if you think that somebody derange. And if you think that somebody derange. And if you think that somebody who is whatever 68 610 isn't going to who is whatever 68 610 isn't going to who is whatever 68 610 isn't going to have uh an advantage over somebody who have uh an advantage over somebody who have uh an advantage over somebody who is much much shorter than them with much is much much shorter than them with much is much much shorter than them with much less fast twitch much muscle fiber which less fast twitch much muscle fiber which less fast twitch much muscle fiber which tends to be one of the key tends to be one of the key tends to be one of the key differentiators between men and women. differentiators between men and women. differentiators between men and women. Men have far more upper body strength Men have far more upper body strength Men have far more upper body strength than women. Uh you start putting it all than women. Uh you start putting it all than women. Uh you start putting it all together and you have somebody that has together and you have somebody that has together and you have somebody that has far more explosive power which on the far more explosive power which on the far more explosive power which on the basketball court is going to make a basketball court is going to make a basketball court is going to make a massive difference. uh they are much massive difference. uh they are much massive difference. uh they are much farther uh with the first move, much farther uh with the first move, much farther uh with the first move, much more dynamic in terms of being able to more dynamic in terms of being able to more dynamic in terms of being able to reach elevations and dunk etc etc. And reach elevations and dunk etc etc. And reach elevations and dunk etc etc. And when this argument is had at the level when this argument is had at the level when this argument is had at the level where it makes sense, like is there a where it makes sense, like is there a where it makes sense, like is there a separate region of the brain that separate region of the brain that separate region of the brain that determines one's sense of identity? How determines one's sense of identity? How determines one's sense of identity? How much is that influenced by culture? How much is that influenced by culture? How much is that influenced by culture? How much of that is influenced by the way much of that is influenced by the way much of that is influenced by the way that you were raised? I think all of that you were raised? I think all of that you were raised? I think all of that in the fullness of time will prove that in the fullness of time will prove that in the fullness of time will prove to be true. We can get into all the to be true. We can get into all the to be true. We can get into all the crazy about how does Athens end up crazy about how does Athens end up crazy about how does Athens end up uh having a view on homosexuality that uh having a view on homosexuality that uh having a view on homosexuality that today we would find very unexpected. Um today we would find very unexpected. Um today we would find very unexpected. Um all of those things I think we will all of those things I think we will all of those things I think we will especially with AI we will begin to especially with AI we will begin to especially with AI we will begin to realize the different areas that end up realize the different areas that end up realize the different areas that end up creating these um creating these um creating these um states these brain states neurochemical states these brain states neurochemical states these brain states neurochemical states etc. a sense of perception, all states etc. a sense of perception, all states etc. a sense of perception, all of that. I think we'll finally over time of that. I think we'll finally over time of that. I think we'll finally over time be able to map all of this stuff out and be able to map all of this stuff out and be able to map all of this stuff out and see that it is very complicated. But see that it is very complicated. But see that it is very complicated. But what isn't complicated is when you get what isn't complicated is when you get what isn't complicated is when you get to the extremes of performance, are men to the extremes of performance, are men to the extremes of performance, are men and women going to be able to perform and women going to be able to perform and women going to be able to perform the same? And when we're talking about the same? And when we're talking about the same? And when we're talking about basketball, it becomes self-evident that basketball, it becomes self-evident that basketball, it becomes self-evident that it's never going to be the same. So, if it's never going to be the same. So, if it's never going to be the same. So, if you would like to see uh a league that you would like to see uh a league that you would like to see uh a league that is almost exclusively um transgender is almost exclusively um transgender is almost exclusively um transgender males playing uh in the women's league, males playing uh in the women's league, males playing uh in the women's league, then by all means, keep going down this then by all means, keep going down this then by all means, keep going down this path. And that is precisely what you're path. And that is precisely what you're path. And that is precisely what you're going to end up seeing uh because of going to end up seeing uh because of going to end up seeing uh because of those biological differences playing out those biological differences playing out those biological differences playing out at the extremes. If however you want to at the extremes. If however you want to at the extremes. If however you want to maintain the categories so that we can maintain the categories so that we can maintain the categories so that we can see what does it look like when the best see what does it look like when the best see what does it look like when the best female players play against each other female players play against each other female players play against each other then you're going to have to separate then you're going to have to separate then you're going to have to separate them. If you don't believe me in uh in them. If you don't believe me in uh in them. If you don't believe me in uh in the realm of basketball, let's talk the realm of basketball, let's talk the realm of basketball, let's talk about mixed martial arts. Imagine in MMA about mixed martial arts. Imagine in MMA about mixed martial arts. Imagine in MMA the same thing where the explosiveness the same thing where the explosiveness the same thing where the explosiveness of upper body strength going male versus of upper body strength going male versus of upper body strength going male versus female is going to play out in the female is going to play out in the female is going to play out in the ability to um generate head trauma for ability to um generate head trauma for ability to um generate head trauma for instance. So all of this stuff is instance. So all of this stuff is instance. So all of this stuff is completely crazy to me when we try to completely crazy to me when we try to completely crazy to me when we try to completely eliminate the reality that we completely eliminate the reality that we completely eliminate the reality that we are all um prisoners of our biology. We are all um prisoners of our biology. We are all um prisoners of our biology. We are all having a biological experience. are all having a biological experience. are all having a biological experience. We are all trapped inside of our bodies. We are all trapped inside of our bodies. We are all trapped inside of our bodies. Everything is born of that. Now, Everything is born of that. Now, Everything is born of that. Now, longtime viewers will know that I longtime viewers will know that I longtime viewers will know that I believe that u free will is an illusion. believe that u free will is an illusion. believe that u free will is an illusion. And so you can carry it from every And so you can carry it from every And so you can carry it from every single thought that we have is generated single thought that we have is generated single thought that we have is generated by biology. And certainly all of our by biology. And certainly all of our by biology. And certainly all of our strength, all of our speed, it's all strength, all of our speed, it's all strength, all of our speed, it's all downstream of our biology. And so downstream of our biology. And so downstream of our biology. And so pretending that we can lather something pretending that we can lather something pretending that we can lather something on at the last minute, even if that is on at the last minute, even if that is on at the last minute, even if that is hormones taken uh very early, there is hormones taken uh very early, there is hormones taken uh very early, there is still going to be a difference. Now, I'm still going to be a difference. Now, I'm still going to be a difference. Now, I'm sure that you can mute and block a lot sure that you can mute and block a lot sure that you can mute and block a lot of that difference by messing up of that difference by messing up of that difference by messing up somebody's puberty. Um, but woo buddy, somebody's puberty. Um, but woo buddy, somebody's puberty. Um, but woo buddy, is that an experiment I think we should is that an experiment I think we should is that an experiment I think we should really avoid running, but nonetheless, really avoid running, but nonetheless, really avoid running, but nonetheless, this one is going to get interesting. this one is going to get interesting. this one is going to get interesting. So, the basketball association, the So, the basketball association, the So, the basketball association, the WNBA, uh, has realized that they are WNBA, uh, has realized that they are WNBA, uh, has realized that they are going to have to have an emergency going to have to have an emergency going to have to have an emergency meeting and come up with some sort of meeting and come up with some sort of meeting and come up with some sort of definition that stops their league definition that stops their league definition that stops their league essentially from being completely essentially from being completely essentially from being completely disrupted. Um, as you will inevitably disrupted. Um, as you will inevitably disrupted. Um, as you will inevitably get people that either they're a college get people that either they're a college get people that either they're a college athlete and they realize they're never athlete and they realize they're never athlete and they realize they're never going to make it into the NBA and so, going to make it into the NBA and so, going to make it into the NBA and so, hey, they're going to declare uh that hey, they're going to declare uh that hey, they're going to declare uh that they're transgender and find their way they're transgender and find their way they're transgender and find their way into the sport. Anytime you have an into the sport. Anytime you have an into the sport. Anytime you have an incentive system, that incentive system incentive system, that incentive system incentive system, that incentive system will be abused. This is why you need will be abused. This is why you need will be abused. This is why you need checks and balances. This feels like one checks and balances. This feels like one checks and balances. This feels like one of the great arguments of our time is um of the great arguments of our time is um of the great arguments of our time is um a world view coming largely from people a world view coming largely from people a world view coming largely from people that find themselves radically far out that find themselves radically far out that find themselves radically far out on the left end of the spectrum. Um on the left end of the spectrum. Um on the left end of the spectrum. Um not being honest about not wanting to not being honest about not wanting to not being honest about not wanting to recognize or just outright being recognize or just outright being recognize or just outright being paristatized by people who are fully paristatized by people who are fully paristatized by people who are fully aware of what's going to happen. Wanting aware of what's going to happen. Wanting aware of what's going to happen. Wanting to take advantage of the fact that they to take advantage of the fact that they to take advantage of the fact that they don't want to put in limits or don't want to put in limits or don't want to put in limits or restrictions because they don't feel restrictions because they don't feel restrictions because they don't feel good. they feel disenfranchising to some good. they feel disenfranchising to some good. they feel disenfranchising to some people. Uh which by the way they are. Um people. Uh which by the way they are. Um people. Uh which by the way they are. Um so if we don't learn and embrace the so if we don't learn and embrace the so if we don't learn and embrace the need for constructive discrimination and need for constructive discrimination and need for constructive discrimination and I will use that word precisely because I I will use that word precisely because I I will use that word precisely because I know that it triggers some people but know that it triggers some people but know that it triggers some people but that is what we want to look at is that is what we want to look at is that is what we want to look at is boundaries are discriminatory by nature. boundaries are discriminatory by nature. boundaries are discriminatory by nature. They are also necessary. Therefore, They are also necessary. Therefore, They are also necessary. Therefore, discrimination at a certain level is discrimination at a certain level is discrimination at a certain level is necessary. And like all things, necessary. And like all things, necessary. And like all things, discrimination when taken to a discrimination when taken to a discrimination when taken to a pathological level, whether on the we pathological level, whether on the we pathological level, whether on the we don't discriminate at all, that becomes don't discriminate at all, that becomes don't discriminate at all, that becomes pathology, or we discriminate far too pathology, or we discriminate far too pathology, or we discriminate far too much, becomes pathology. It's always much, becomes pathology. It's always much, becomes pathology. It's always forcing humans to find that delicate forcing humans to find that delicate forcing humans to find that delicate balance that is excruciatingly difficult balance that is excruciatingly difficult balance that is excruciatingly difficult to maintain, but is nonetheless to maintain, but is nonetheless to maintain, but is nonetheless incredibly necessary if you want to incredibly necessary if you want to incredibly necessary if you want to maintain the integrity of a system like maintain the integrity of a system like maintain the integrity of a system like the WNBA. the WNBA. the WNBA. Without it, you will see all of this Without it, you will see all of this Without it, you will see all of this stuff devolve into madness. stuff devolve into madness. stuff devolve into madness. >> I mean, if it was an open league, I >> I mean, if it was an open league, I >> I mean, if it was an open league, I would say yes, this makes sense. But would say yes, this makes sense. But would say yes, this makes sense. But there's a league of owners. There's a there's a league of owners. There's a there's a league of owners. There's a integrity of the game. There's a lot of integrity of the game. There's a lot of integrity of the game. There's a lot of collusion just within the owners collusion just within the owners collusion just within the owners themselves. They're all It's a boys themselves. They're all It's a boys themselves. They're all It's a boys club. So, I feel like club. So, I feel like club. So, I feel like this isn't going to be a thing. Um this isn't going to be a thing. Um this isn't going to be a thing. Um >> meaning it will get stopped. >> meaning it will get stopped. >> meaning it will get stopped. >> Yes, they're not going to get drafted. >> Yes, they're not going to get drafted. >> Yes, they're not going to get drafted. There's no chance. I I will put $1,000 There's no chance. I I will put $1,000 There's no chance. I I will put $1,000 on Koshi. Um they don't they're not on Koshi. Um they don't they're not on Koshi. Um they don't they're not sponsoring us no more. Don't do that. Um sponsoring us no more. Don't do that. Um sponsoring us no more. Don't do that. Um but I'm just saying like it it's not a but I'm just saying like it it's not a but I'm just saying like it it's not a it's not a thing. There's no transgender it's not a thing. There's no transgender it's not a thing. There's no transgender sports. There's no transgender people sports. There's no transgender people sports. There's no transgender people eligible in NCAA. So for the eligible in NCAA. So for the eligible in NCAA. So for the >> cuz they've already ruled against it. >> cuz they've already ruled against it. >> cuz they've already ruled against it. >> There there's just none that they don't >> There there's just none that they don't >> There there's just none that they don't play. They they haven't crossed that play. They they haven't crossed that play. They they haven't crossed that threshold. There's not one WNBA or woman threshold. There's not one WNBA or woman threshold. There's not one WNBA or woman basketball player in the NCA that basketball player in the NCA that basketball player in the NCA that identifies as trans. Not near one. identifies as trans. Not near one. identifies as trans. Not near one. There's nobody in the WNBA. There's a There's nobody in the WNBA. There's a There's nobody in the WNBA. There's a lot of lesbos in the WNBA. A lot of lot of lesbos in the WNBA. A lot of lot of lesbos in the WNBA. A lot of studs, a lot of butch ones, a lot of studs, a lot of butch ones, a lot of studs, a lot of butch ones, a lot of carpet munching, but there is there is carpet munching, but there is there is carpet munching, but there is there is no trans people. no trans people. no trans people. >> I would like to acknowledge that uh >> I would like to acknowledge that uh >> I would like to acknowledge that uh Drew's views are Drews alone. Drew's views are Drews alone. Drew's views are Drews alone. >> Come on. The WNBA is mad gay girls. They >> Come on. The WNBA is mad gay girls. They >> Come on. The WNBA is mad gay girls. They know that. Um so, but that's what I know that. Um so, but that's what I know that. Um so, but that's what I mean. like they're already like you're mean. like they're already like you're mean. like they're already like you're trying to infiltrate the community that trying to infiltrate the community that trying to infiltrate the community that is the community. So it's I I just is the community. So it's I I just is the community. So it's I I just >> I didn't understand that statement. >> I didn't understand that statement. >> I didn't understand that statement. You're trying to infiltrate the You're trying to infiltrate the You're trying to infiltrate the community that is the community. community that is the community. community that is the community. >> You're forcing a bunch of people who >> You're forcing a bunch of people who >> You're forcing a bunch of people who identify LGBTQ to condemn the T in the identify LGBTQ to condemn the T in the identify LGBTQ to condemn the T in the LGBTQ LGBTQ LGBTQ when they don't have a problem with when they don't have a problem with when they don't have a problem with that. that. that. >> You think condemn >> You think condemn >> You think condemn >> because they want to come out this is >> because they want to come out this is >> because they want to come out this is only for women only. only for women only. only for women only. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Who who are we saying that to? Who who's >> Who who are we saying that to? Who who's >> Who who are we saying that to? Who who's the audience for that? And the audience the audience for that? And the audience the audience for that? And the audience is a bunch of like men who are outside is a bunch of like men who are outside is a bunch of like men who are outside the league who want them to say, "Yeah, the league who want them to say, "Yeah, the league who want them to say, "Yeah, say women only." And it's like, what are say women only." And it's like, what are say women only." And it's like, what are we? we? we? >> This is interesting. I'm so glad. This >> This is interesting. I'm so glad. This >> This is interesting. I'm so glad. This is why I love that you and I view the is why I love that you and I view the is why I love that you and I view the world uh just differently enough. Okay. world uh just differently enough. Okay. world uh just differently enough. Okay. So, here's why I think that this issue So, here's why I think that this issue So, here's why I think that this issue simply will not go away. simply will not go away. simply will not go away. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um I'm I have read this book >> Okay. Um I'm I have read this book >> Okay. Um I'm I have read this book before, but it was a long time ago and I before, but it was a long time ago and I before, but it was a long time ago and I don't remember it super well, but um don't remember it super well, but um don't remember it super well, but um Height Steven height, no, that is not Height Steven height, no, that is not Height Steven height, no, that is not correct. Jonathan height correct. Jonathan height correct. Jonathan height >> Jonathan height thank you wrote a book >> Jonathan height thank you wrote a book >> Jonathan height thank you wrote a book about this topic oh god I'm forgetting about this topic oh god I'm forgetting about this topic oh god I'm forgetting the name where he's talking about the the name where he's talking about the the name where he's talking about the difference in how the left and the right difference in how the left and the right difference in how the left and the right perceive the world perceive the world perceive the world >> and um basically the left pe okay >> and um basically the left pe okay >> and um basically the left pe okay remember I'm talking from a biological remember I'm talking from a biological remember I'm talking from a biological perspective I do not mean this in a perspective I do not mean this in a perspective I do not mean this in a political perspective though they do political perspective though they do political perspective though they do overlap a lot so when I say people on overlap a lot so when I say people on overlap a lot so when I say people on the left I'm talking people that lean the left I'm talking people that lean the left I'm talking people that lean left from a temperament perspective left from a temperament perspective left from a temperament perspective which I believe is an echo of evolution which I believe is an echo of evolution which I believe is an echo of evolution trying to figure out how do I get these trying to figure out how do I get these trying to figure out how do I get these these very large groups of people to these very large groups of people to these very large groups of people to cooperate together flexibly and I cooperate together flexibly and I cooperate together flexibly and I evolution ahead of time don't know what evolution ahead of time don't know what evolution ahead of time don't know what kind of environment you're going to be kind of environment you're going to be kind of environment you're going to be in. So I don't know if I need people in. So I don't know if I need people in. So I don't know if I need people that are really going to be focused on that are really going to be focused on that are really going to be focused on caretaking and fairness to keep caretaking and fairness to keep caretaking and fairness to keep stability in the group or if I'm going stability in the group or if I'm going stability in the group or if I'm going to need to lean on people that are going to need to lean on people that are going to need to lean on people that are going to make sure that there are rules that to make sure that there are rules that to make sure that there are rules that there are disciplined and that we can there are disciplined and that we can there are disciplined and that we can survive a winter. So, I'm going to give survive a winter. So, I'm going to give survive a winter. So, I'm going to give you both and I'm going to hold them in you both and I'm going to hold them in you both and I'm going to hold them in dynamic tension and I'm going to dynamic tension and I'm going to dynamic tension and I'm going to ballpark. I'm going to roughly swag it ballpark. I'm going to roughly swag it ballpark. I'm going to roughly swag it to women are going to lean more left to women are going to lean more left to women are going to lean more left because they need to be far more focused because they need to be far more focused because they need to be far more focused on caretaking of children. They're going on caretaking of children. They're going on caretaking of children. They're going to be focused on group dynamics, to be focused on group dynamics, to be focused on group dynamics, cohesion, relationship building. men are cohesion, relationship building. men are cohesion, relationship building. men are going to be on the other side. Far more, going to be on the other side. Far more, going to be on the other side. Far more, these are just averages, but far more these are just averages, but far more these are just averages, but far more disciplinarian, far more focused on disciplinarian, far more focused on disciplinarian, far more focused on rules, regulations, um focused on making rules, regulations, um focused on making rules, regulations, um focused on making sure that things are getting done, sure that things are getting done, sure that things are getting done, making sure that people are not abusing making sure that people are not abusing making sure that people are not abusing the system. And then I'm going to make the system. And then I'm going to make the system. And then I'm going to make sure that for uh that the men have an sure that for uh that the men have an sure that for uh that the men have an extraordinary desire for sexual access extraordinary desire for sexual access extraordinary desire for sexual access to the females and that the females will to the females and that the females will to the females and that the females will be the sexual gatekeepers. So females be the sexual gatekeepers. So females be the sexual gatekeepers. So females will say, "Hey, listen. If you're an will say, "Hey, listen. If you're an will say, "Hey, listen. If you're an you're not going to get sexual you're not going to get sexual you're not going to get sexual access." this and the guys are like, access." this and the guys are like, access." this and the guys are like, "Okay, well, I'm going to be an "Okay, well, I'm going to be an "Okay, well, I'm going to be an to a certain point because we've got to to a certain point because we've got to to a certain point because we've got to take care of business, but at the same take care of business, but at the same take care of business, but at the same time, yes, I do want to please you and time, yes, I do want to please you and time, yes, I do want to please you and yes, I do want to make sure that you're yes, I do want to make sure that you're yes, I do want to make sure that you're happy and it's just way, way, way easier happy and it's just way, way, way easier happy and it's just way, way, way easier if we're good standpoint, which will if we're good standpoint, which will if we're good standpoint, which will make you likely to rebel or to go make you likely to rebel or to go make you likely to rebel or to go underground and to fight me in ways that underground and to fight me in ways that underground and to fight me in ways that are not physical, but are relational, are not physical, but are relational, are not physical, but are relational, which is exactly what women do. Women which is exactly what women do. Women which is exactly what women do. Women are incredibly formidable, but they use are incredibly formidable, but they use are incredibly formidable, but they use a very different strategy of just to use a very different strategy of just to use a very different strategy of just to use the language I love so much. Uh they the language I love so much. Uh they the language I love so much. Uh they they will wage war in a very different they will wage war in a very different they will wage war in a very different way than men will wage war. For men, it way than men will wage war. For men, it way than men will wage war. For men, it is all very direct conflict. It is very is all very direct conflict. It is very is all very direct conflict. It is very um just in-your-face. I'm going to um just in-your-face. I'm going to um just in-your-face. I'm going to defeat you in this argument or I'm going defeat you in this argument or I'm going defeat you in this argument or I'm going to literally beat the life out of you. to literally beat the life out of you. to literally beat the life out of you. Uh whereas women will go back channel. Uh whereas women will go back channel. Uh whereas women will go back channel. They will use subtrauge. They will use They will use subtrauge. They will use They will use subtrauge. They will use confusion. uh a whole very potent confusion. uh a whole very potent confusion. uh a whole very potent strategy that boy are we glad that we strategy that boy are we glad that we strategy that boy are we glad that we have people that know how to wield that have people that know how to wield that have people that know how to wield that and we hold each other in this dynamic and we hold each other in this dynamic and we hold each other in this dynamic tension and it is only when one group tension and it is only when one group tension and it is only when one group becomes unmed by the other that they becomes unmed by the other that they becomes unmed by the other that they spiral off into pathology. So that's spiral off into pathology. So that's spiral off into pathology. So that's evolution. So when I say that somebody evolution. So when I say that somebody evolution. So when I say that somebody is leaning to the left that's what I'm is leaning to the left that's what I'm is leaning to the left that's what I'm talking about this product of evolution. talking about this product of evolution. talking about this product of evolution. Okay. So you get people that are leaning Okay. So you get people that are leaning Okay. So you get people that are leaning to the left as a product of evolution. to the left as a product of evolution. to the left as a product of evolution. They are focused really strongly on They are focused really strongly on They are focused really strongly on fairness fairness fairness um on making sure that everybody has uh um on making sure that everybody has uh um on making sure that everybody has uh care that they are seen as whole and care that they are seen as whole and care that they are seen as whole and complete and worthy of love which complete and worthy of love which complete and worthy of love which awesome and we should be so glad that awesome and we should be so glad that awesome and we should be so glad that that's there. But as that pushes out that's there. But as that pushes out that's there. But as that pushes out into the extremes, now you get people into the extremes, now you get people into the extremes, now you get people that don't recognize this is that don't recognize this is that don't recognize this is Chesterton's fence, that these rules and Chesterton's fence, that these rules and Chesterton's fence, that these rules and regulations and discriminatory regulations and discriminatory regulations and discriminatory boundaries, they have a purpose. And boundaries, they have a purpose. And boundaries, they have a purpose. And when we have had safety and security for when we have had safety and security for when we have had safety and security for as long as we've had, we really start as long as we've had, we really start as long as we've had, we really start forgetting as a society why these forgetting as a society why these forgetting as a society why these discriminatory boundaries exist. And so discriminatory boundaries exist. And so discriminatory boundaries exist. And so if care and fairness is the way in which if care and fairness is the way in which if care and fairness is the way in which you reason through the world, remember you reason through the world, remember you reason through the world, remember this is Jonathan Height's work. He's this is Jonathan Height's work. He's this is Jonathan Height's work. He's gone through, he's looked at the gone through, he's looked at the gone through, he's looked at the research, he's studied how people, and I research, he's studied how people, and I research, he's studied how people, and I think he was looking at it on a think he was looking at it on a think he was looking at it on a political spectrum, how people on the political spectrum, how people on the political spectrum, how people on the left and the right reason through the left and the right reason through the left and the right reason through the world. world. world. >> And so on that side, it it is literally >> And so on that side, it it is literally >> And so on that side, it it is literally those two things, care and fairness. And those two things, care and fairness. And those two things, care and fairness. And through the lens of care and fairness, through the lens of care and fairness, through the lens of care and fairness, you understand how they pull in that you understand how they pull in that you understand how they pull in that direction. But when there aren't checks direction. But when there aren't checks direction. But when there aren't checks and balances, they pull way too far and and balances, they pull way too far and and balances, they pull way too far and they start treading on the reasons that they start treading on the reasons that they start treading on the reasons that these boundaries existed in the first these boundaries existed in the first these boundaries existed in the first place. And this is why the argument will place. And this is why the argument will place. And this is why the argument will not go away. You're going to keep seeing not go away. You're going to keep seeing not go away. You're going to keep seeing this. Now, the more that I engage in the this. Now, the more that I engage in the this. Now, the more that I engage in the world of politics, the more that I world of politics, the more that I world of politics, the more that I engage in trying to make sure that engage in trying to make sure that engage in trying to make sure that America is going in the right direction, America is going in the right direction, America is going in the right direction, the more I realize I'm I'm hitting up the more I realize I'm I'm hitting up the more I realize I'm I'm hitting up against this exact thing. Now, I think against this exact thing. Now, I think against this exact thing. Now, I think people are grabbing for this intuitively people are grabbing for this intuitively people are grabbing for this intuitively when they want to argue about um when they want to argue about um when they want to argue about um transgenderism and where this all goes. transgenderism and where this all goes. transgenderism and where this all goes. There many people approach this from a There many people approach this from a There many people approach this from a place that is um deeply uncomfortable place that is um deeply uncomfortable place that is um deeply uncomfortable for somebody like me who wants to see uh for somebody like me who wants to see uh for somebody like me who wants to see uh care and fairness play out. You want to care and fairness play out. You want to care and fairness play out. You want to see these people be able to live see these people be able to live see these people be able to live whatever dignified life that they want, whatever dignified life that they want, whatever dignified life that they want, but maintain the boundaries that we have but maintain the boundaries that we have but maintain the boundaries that we have put in place for a reason. So this is put in place for a reason. So this is put in place for a reason. So this is not me defending the way that a lot of not me defending the way that a lot of not me defending the way that a lot of people grope for this, but I keep coming people grope for this, but I keep coming people grope for this, but I keep coming up against this reality of the world has up against this reality of the world has up against this reality of the world has been so the west, America specifically, been so the west, America specifically, been so the west, America specifically, has been so safe and so prosperous for has been so safe and so prosperous for has been so safe and so prosperous for so long that people legitimately so long that people legitimately so long that people legitimately don't realize that these boundaries don't realize that these boundaries don't realize that these boundaries exist for very protective mechanisms for exist for very protective mechanisms for exist for very protective mechanisms for groups that need that protection. And so groups that need that protection. And so groups that need that protection. And so we just tread upon them. So I look at we just tread upon them. So I look at we just tread upon them. So I look at this stuff and I'm like, hold on. Like this stuff and I'm like, hold on. Like this stuff and I'm like, hold on. Like you've got to get people to understand you've got to get people to understand you've got to get people to understand that the boundaries exist for a reason. that the boundaries exist for a reason. that the boundaries exist for a reason. The fact that we're talking about the The fact that we're talking about the The fact that we're talking about the WNBA to me is irrelevant. This isn't WNBA to me is irrelevant. This isn't WNBA to me is irrelevant. This isn't about the WNBA. This is about people about the WNBA. This is about people about the WNBA. This is about people understanding these boundaries exist for understanding these boundaries exist for understanding these boundaries exist for a reason. And so you get people making a reason. And so you get people making a reason. And so you get people making these extravagantly large um trolls in these extravagantly large um trolls in these extravagantly large um trolls in the public sphere like this. You can the public sphere like this. You can the public sphere like this. You can find, in fact, we should play it. You find, in fact, we should play it. You find, in fact, we should play it. You can see um Royce White, I believe is his can see um Royce White, I believe is his can see um Royce White, I believe is his name. name. name. >> Uhhuh. And he is running for Senate. >> Uhhuh. And he is running for Senate. >> Uhhuh. And he is running for Senate. >> Okay, perfect. So, you can see him >> Okay, perfect. So, you can see him >> Okay, perfect. So, you can see him making these grand trolling overtures. making these grand trolling overtures. making these grand trolling overtures. He was on Alex Jones, uh wearing a wig, He was on Alex Jones, uh wearing a wig, He was on Alex Jones, uh wearing a wig, talking about um he's never received talking about um he's never received talking about um he's never received more hate. Uh you know, he's like, in more hate. Uh you know, he's like, in more hate. Uh you know, he's like, in fact, just play the clip. That's not I fact, just play the clip. That's not I fact, just play the clip. That's not I don't think that's the clip. It's the don't think that's the clip. It's the don't think that's the clip. It's the one on Jones. There we go. So, just play one on Jones. There we go. So, just play one on Jones. There we go. So, just play from the beginning of this. from the beginning of this. from the beginning of this. >> The ship the ship is going down. The fat >> The ship the ship is going down. The fat >> The ship the ship is going down. The fat lady's getting lady's getting lady's getting makes me nervous. you know, the band's makes me nervous. you know, the band's makes me nervous. you know, the band's playing and and there aren't enough playing and and there aren't enough playing and and there aren't enough lifeboats for everybody. So, I thought lifeboats for everybody. So, I thought lifeboats for everybody. So, I thought to myself, you know, if America's to myself, you know, if America's to myself, you know, if America's headed, you know, down the down the headed, you know, down the down the headed, you know, down the down the drain, why not experience drain, why not experience drain, why not experience what it's like to be a woman? I mean, what it's like to be a woman? I mean, what it's like to be a woman? I mean, why would I go my entire life why would I go my entire life why would I go my entire life in a man's body to to to be a woman in a man's body to to to be a woman in a man's body to to to be a woman trapped in a man's body? The torture, trapped in a man's body? The torture, trapped in a man's body? The torture, the anguish, the anguish of it. the anguish, the anguish of it. the anguish, the anguish of it. >> Obviously joking. >> Obviously joking. >> Obviously joking. >> I can't even describe it to you. You >> I can't even describe it to you. You >> I can't even describe it to you. You know, it's it's been a revelation. It's know, it's it's been a revelation. It's know, it's it's been a revelation. It's like, you can do this, dude. You can do like, you can do this, dude. You can do like, you can do this, dude. You can do this. You can you can become the best this. You can you can become the best this. You can you can become the best WNBA basketball player the world has WNBA basketball player the world has WNBA basketball player the world has ever seen. ever seen. ever seen. >> And he would be. >> And he would be. >> And he would be. >> You can go to the WNBA and elevate the >> You can go to the WNBA and elevate the >> You can go to the WNBA and elevate the entire game. You can draw more eyes. You entire game. You can draw more eyes. You entire game. You can draw more eyes. You think Caitlyn Clark's drawing eyeballs think Caitlyn Clark's drawing eyeballs think Caitlyn Clark's drawing eyeballs to the the women's game? Wait till me to the the women's game? Wait till me to the the women's game? Wait till me and Enis Caner get there. Wait until the and Enis Caner get there. Wait until the and Enis Caner get there. Wait until the LeBron Jameses of the world show up. LeBron Jameses of the world show up. LeBron Jameses of the world show up. Wait until your young high school Wait until your young high school Wait until your young high school athletes decide, you know what? Why athletes decide, you know what? Why athletes decide, you know what? Why would I want to go hang around with a would I want to go hang around with a would I want to go hang around with a bunch of other sweaty men in a hyper bunch of other sweaty men in a hyper bunch of other sweaty men in a hyper competitive setting? just go on over competitive setting? just go on over competitive setting? just go on over here to the WNBA and and you experience here to the WNBA and and you experience here to the WNBA and and you experience being a woman because we all should get being a woman because we all should get being a woman because we all should get the opportunity to experience being the the opportunity to experience being the the opportunity to experience being the the the other sex because it's just a the the other sex because it's just a the the other sex because it's just a construct anyway. Just a construct. construct anyway. Just a construct. construct anyway. Just a construct. There's nothing to it. There's no There's nothing to it. There's no There's nothing to it. There's no difference. But there's no real difference. But there's no real difference. But there's no real difference. Come on. Come on. difference. Come on. Come on. difference. Come on. Come on. >> There's no real difference between men >> There's no real difference between men >> There's no real difference between men and women. And we all know that if you and women. And we all know that if you and women. And we all know that if you search, if you dig deep, if you if you search, if you dig deep, if you if you search, if you dig deep, if you if you search your heart, you know, I mean, let search your heart, you know, I mean, let search your heart, you know, I mean, let me look at you straight on here. me look at you straight on here. me look at you straight on here. If you search your heart, If you search your heart, If you search your heart, >> just a hair flip for me tonight >> just a hair flip for me tonight >> just a hair flip for me tonight >> and take some time beard. Yeah. >> and take some time beard. Yeah. >> and take some time beard. Yeah. >> You look in the mirror and you search >> You look in the mirror and you search >> You look in the mirror and you search you you search do some deep deep diving. you you search do some deep deep diving. you you search do some deep deep diving. >> We all know there's no real difference >> We all know there's no real difference >> We all know there's no real difference between We know that. We all know. between We know that. We all know. between We know that. We all know. >> I feel like we get it. >> I feel like we get it. >> I feel like we get it. >> What a farce. Okay. So, he he goes on to >> What a farce. Okay. So, he he goes on to >> What a farce. Okay. So, he he goes on to talk about like um I've never talk about like um I've never talk about like um I've never experienced more hate. Uh there was one experienced more hate. Uh there was one experienced more hate. Uh there was one person he claims that that person is person he claims that that person is person he claims that that person is transgender. I don't know. I I didn't um transgender. I don't know. I I didn't um transgender. I don't know. I I didn't um dig into it, but he said that a dig into it, but he said that a dig into it, but he said that a transgender person said, "I'm going to transgender person said, "I'm going to transgender person said, "I'm going to find you and I'm going to pistol whip find you and I'm going to pistol whip find you and I'm going to pistol whip the piss out of you." And then he says, the piss out of you." And then he says, the piss out of you." And then he says, "Oo, you must be real big if you think "Oo, you must be real big if you think "Oo, you must be real big if you think you can roll up on me at whatever 68 610 you can roll up on me at whatever 68 610 you can roll up on me at whatever 68 610 uh and pistol whip me and there isn't uh and pistol whip me and there isn't uh and pistol whip me and there isn't going to be a problem." Uh so going to be a problem." Uh so going to be a problem." Uh so that's the spectacle. That's where this that's the spectacle. That's where this that's the spectacle. That's where this argument is at risk of being had is in argument is at risk of being had is in argument is at risk of being had is in the spectacle rather than going, okay, the spectacle rather than going, okay, the spectacle rather than going, okay, why won't this go away? Why won't either why won't this go away? Why won't either why won't this go away? Why won't either side let go of this? I think it's side let go of this? I think it's side let go of this? I think it's because if you've got somebody on the because if you've got somebody on the because if you've got somebody on the left and they really their their left and they really their their left and they really their their worldview is coming from a place I I worldview is coming from a place I I worldview is coming from a place I I think there's really two things going think there's really two things going think there's really two things going on. There are people that understand on. There are people that understand on. There are people that understand that they can um take advantage of this. that they can um take advantage of this. that they can um take advantage of this. So they know how to weaponize this to So they know how to weaponize this to So they know how to weaponize this to silence other people etc. Uh with claims silence other people etc. Uh with claims silence other people etc. Uh with claims of bigot and you know the like. We saw of bigot and you know the like. We saw of bigot and you know the like. We saw how powerful that was in 2020. And then how powerful that was in 2020. And then how powerful that was in 2020. And then I think there are sincere people that I think there are sincere people that I think there are sincere people that are are are recognizing that when you put boundaries recognizing that when you put boundaries recognizing that when you put boundaries up that there are people that are up that there are people that are up that there are people that are excluded and it doesn't feel good. And excluded and it doesn't feel good. And excluded and it doesn't feel good. And there are people that really do get there are people that really do get there are people that really do get marginalized because there they are part marginalized because there they are part marginalized because there they are part of a group that has no uh political of a group that has no uh political of a group that has no uh political power. There are so few of them that power. There are so few of them that power. There are so few of them that there just isn't enough energy behind there just isn't enough energy behind there just isn't enough energy behind them. And so they want to speak up for them. And so they want to speak up for them. And so they want to speak up for that person. This is why the narrative that person. This is why the narrative that person. This is why the narrative center of Marxism is all about oppressed center of Marxism is all about oppressed center of Marxism is all about oppressed and oppressor. And that dynamic really and oppressor. And that dynamic really and oppressor. And that dynamic really speaks to people that have a speaks to people that have a speaks to people that have a left-leaning personality. And so if left-leaning personality. And so if left-leaning personality. And so if you're somebody who's trying to wield you're somebody who's trying to wield you're somebody who's trying to wield power, you can weapon weaponize that to power, you can weapon weaponize that to power, you can weapon weaponize that to get those people to be like, "Oh my god, get those people to be like, "Oh my god, get those people to be like, "Oh my god, this is actually true." Now, if you this is actually true." Now, if you this is actually true." Now, if you think about the fact that they're not think about the fact that they're not think about the fact that they're not recognizing that it's true from a recognizing that it's true from a recognizing that it's true from a rational place, they are feeling their rational place, they are feeling their rational place, they are feeling their way through it. They're emoting through way through it. They're emoting through way through it. They're emoting through it. And that's another part of Jonathan it. And that's another part of Jonathan it. And that's another part of Jonathan Height's work is that people on the left Height's work is that people on the left Height's work is that people on the left are um first are um first are um first intuiting something their their intuiting something their their intuiting something their their morality. They're intuiting their morality. They're intuiting their morality. They're intuiting their morality by the way that things feel. morality by the way that things feel. morality by the way that things feel. And that feels desperately unfair. And And that feels desperately unfair. And And that feels desperately unfair. And it is quite frankly desperately unfair. it is quite frankly desperately unfair. it is quite frankly desperately unfair. Uh if you take it just at a purely Uh if you take it just at a purely Uh if you take it just at a purely biological level, right? I'm never going biological level, right? I'm never going biological level, right? I'm never going to succeed in the NBA. I'm too awkward. to succeed in the NBA. I'm too awkward. to succeed in the NBA. I'm too awkward. I don't have enough um like of a a base I don't have enough um like of a a base I don't have enough um like of a a base of uh fast twitch fiber such that even of uh fast twitch fiber such that even of uh fast twitch fiber such that even with a lot of training and coordination with a lot of training and coordination with a lot of training and coordination for that matter because I know I tried I for that matter because I know I tried I for that matter because I know I tried I played basketball for years uh and am played basketball for years uh and am played basketball for years uh and am just unbelievably uncoordinated, just unbelievably uncoordinated, just unbelievably uncoordinated, ungifted at it. And so while I could get ungifted at it. And so while I could get ungifted at it. And so while I could get a 100 times better, as all of us can get a 100 times better, as all of us can get a 100 times better, as all of us can get 100 times better at something, as you 100 times better at something, as you 100 times better at something, as you get into the elite realm, I'm just never get into the elite realm, I'm just never get into the elite realm, I'm just never going to be good at that. And so there going to be good at that. And so there going to be good at that. And so there is something desperately unfair about is something desperately unfair about is something desperately unfair about the genetic lottery that we all get. So, the genetic lottery that we all get. So, the genetic lottery that we all get. So, but whatever. It is what it is. And so but whatever. It is what it is. And so but whatever. It is what it is. And so when you reason your way to a morality when you reason your way to a morality when you reason your way to a morality through what feels right and you're through what feels right and you're through what feels right and you're somebody who wants to weaponize that to somebody who wants to weaponize that to somebody who wants to weaponize that to gain power, you can get a mass of people gain power, you can get a mass of people gain power, you can get a mass of people who feel like that and you start moving who feel like that and you start moving who feel like that and you start moving down a path. Okay. So now you've you get down a path. Okay. So now you've you get down a path. Okay. So now you've you get that going as both a weapon and as that going as both a weapon and as that going as both a weapon and as somebody who's reasoning their way to somebody who's reasoning their way to somebody who's reasoning their way to that from the framework of prolonged that from the framework of prolonged that from the framework of prolonged safety. And so they're going to go hard safety. And so they're going to go hard safety. And so they're going to go hard in the paint for that, not realizing the in the paint for that, not realizing the in the paint for that, not realizing the kinds of things that will break down the kinds of things that will break down the kinds of things that will break down the line. And when I come back to like how line. And when I come back to like how line. And when I come back to like how on earth is Marxism the world's most on earth is Marxism the world's most on earth is Marxism the world's most failed um political ideology of all failed um political ideology of all failed um political ideology of all time, the most murderous political time, the most murderous political time, the most murderous political ideology of all time, the most ideology of all time, the most ideology of all time, the most ineffective economic ideology of all ineffective economic ideology of all ineffective economic ideology of all time, how is it making a resurgence? And time, how is it making a resurgence? And time, how is it making a resurgence? And why is it always resurging on the back why is it always resurging on the back why is it always resurging on the back of prolonged periods of success where of prolonged periods of success where of prolonged periods of success where you overproduce elites? And that's why you overproduce elites? And that's why you overproduce elites? And that's why this argument is this argument is going this argument is this argument is going this argument is this argument is going to be had. It is going to keep being had to be had. It is going to keep being had to be had. It is going to keep being had until we finally return to some sanity until we finally return to some sanity until we finally return to some sanity back in the middle. Now, it seems to me back in the middle. Now, it seems to me back in the middle. Now, it seems to me from a historical lens that you really from a historical lens that you really from a historical lens that you really do have to have a tremendous amount of do have to have a tremendous amount of do have to have a tremendous amount of suffering to the point where people are suffering to the point where people are suffering to the point where people are eager to reimpose boundaries and rules eager to reimpose boundaries and rules eager to reimpose boundaries and rules because it's the only way to actually because it's the only way to actually because it's the only way to actually generate the momentum that we need. generate the momentum that we need. generate the momentum that we need. Okay? Period. Hopefully, everybody's Okay? Period. Hopefully, everybody's Okay? Period. Hopefully, everybody's with me so far. Now, I want you guys to with me so far. Now, I want you guys to with me so far. Now, I want you guys to really step back and look at what it really step back and look at what it really step back and look at what it would take to get America going in the would take to get America going in the would take to get America going in the right direction again. It's going to right direction again. It's going to right direction again. It's going to take fiscal discipline. Okay? So now take fiscal discipline. Okay? So now take fiscal discipline. Okay? So now we're again we're pulling to the right. we're again we're pulling to the right. we're again we're pulling to the right. It is going to take the kind of It is going to take the kind of It is going to take the kind of understanding that everything is a understanding that everything is a understanding that everything is a trade-off that you can't emotion your trade-off that you can't emotion your trade-off that you can't emotion your way can't intuitit your way um to the way can't intuitit your way um to the way can't intuitit your way um to the right set of principles because it's not right set of principles because it's not right set of principles because it's not going to feel good. It's going to feel going to feel good. It's going to feel going to feel good. It's going to feel like discrimination. It's going to like discrimination. It's going to like discrimination. It's going to meaning uh I'm speaking very meaning uh I'm speaking very meaning uh I'm speaking very specifically of immigration. It's going specifically of immigration. It's going specifically of immigration. It's going to feel like yeah, we have to say we're to feel like yeah, we have to say we're to feel like yeah, we have to say we're going to take care of the people within going to take care of the people within going to take care of the people within our borders, the people that are our borders, the people that are our borders, the people that are citizens because money is finite, citizens because money is finite, citizens because money is finite, because uh prosperity is something that because uh prosperity is something that because uh prosperity is something that actually has to come from making real actually has to come from making real actually has to come from making real things, innovating, getting more things, innovating, getting more things, innovating, getting more efficient over time. So, you look at efficient over time. So, you look at efficient over time. So, you look at China, and I'm certainly happy to have China, and I'm certainly happy to have China, and I'm certainly happy to have what is the argument about what China's what is the argument about what China's what is the argument about what China's actual economic policies are because actual economic policies are because actual economic policies are because people are going to say, "But wait, people are going to say, "But wait, people are going to say, "But wait, that's a Marxist uh system." It is not. that's a Marxist uh system." It is not. that's a Marxist uh system." It is not. Very aggressively, very provably not. Uh Very aggressively, very provably not. Uh Very aggressively, very provably not. Uh but for now, let's just know that I but for now, let's just know that I but for now, let's just know that I don't believe that it is. So, you've got don't believe that it is. So, you've got don't believe that it is. So, you've got China over here that is proving to be China over here that is proving to be China over here that is proving to be the world's most successful country from the world's most successful country from the world's most successful country from a manufacturing standpoint, actually a manufacturing standpoint, actually a manufacturing standpoint, actually making things, focused on innovation. making things, focused on innovation. making things, focused on innovation. You've got the US, which is doing the You've got the US, which is doing the You've got the US, which is doing the traditional empire thing, which is traditional empire thing, which is traditional empire thing, which is financializing everything and making financializing everything and making financializing everything and making easy money just to round it to easy money just to round it to easy money just to round it to something, not having to do the hard something, not having to do the hard something, not having to do the hard work of actually building and innovating work of actually building and innovating work of actually building and innovating and employing and focusing on the middle and employing and focusing on the middle and employing and focusing on the middle class and all that. We don't have to do class and all that. We don't have to do class and all that. We don't have to do any of that because we've been any of that because we've been any of that because we've been prosperous for so long that we could prosperous for so long that we could prosperous for so long that we could just outsource everything to everybody just outsource everything to everybody just outsource everything to everybody else. Disguise our declining economy by else. Disguise our declining economy by else. Disguise our declining economy by getting everything cheaper, by importing getting everything cheaper, by importing getting everything cheaper, by importing cheap labor, by outsourcing things to cheap labor, by outsourcing things to cheap labor, by outsourcing things to the rest of the world and getting cheap the rest of the world and getting cheap the rest of the world and getting cheap goods back. Okay, that that is the goods back. Okay, that that is the goods back. Okay, that that is the playbook that every empire ends up playbook that every empire ends up playbook that every empire ends up running because you can promise a lot of running because you can promise a lot of running because you can promise a lot of free stuff to people and you get elected free stuff to people and you get elected free stuff to people and you get elected by doing that. Okay, that because humans by doing that. Okay, that because humans by doing that. Okay, that because humans are a certain way. We have a nature as a are a certain way. We have a nature as a are a certain way. We have a nature as a as a big collective. We have a nature. as a big collective. We have a nature. as a big collective. We have a nature. It is very knowable and this is It is very knowable and this is It is very knowable and this is precisely why history rhymes. And so in precisely why history rhymes. And so in precisely why history rhymes. And so in the time where that is happening for us the time where that is happening for us the time where that is happening for us to fight our way back, we have to go in to fight our way back, we have to go in to fight our way back, we have to go in the opposite direction. We have to do the opposite direction. We have to do the opposite direction. We have to do the hard work of building in the the hard work of building in the the hard work of building in the country. We have to do the emotionally country. We have to do the emotionally country. We have to do the emotionally taxing thing of saying our borders are taxing thing of saying our borders are taxing thing of saying our borders are strong and protected and that means that strong and protected and that means that strong and protected and that means that people that aren't in our country are people that aren't in our country are people that aren't in our country are going to suffer because they're not able going to suffer because they're not able going to suffer because they're not able to get into the wealthiest nation on to get into the wealthiest nation on to get into the wealthiest nation on planet earth. But we have to answer the planet earth. But we have to answer the planet earth. But we have to answer the question of how we became the wealthiest question of how we became the wealthiest question of how we became the wealthiest country on planet earth. And that is country on planet earth. And that is country on planet earth. And that is through having these boundaries, having through having these boundaries, having through having these boundaries, having the discipline, focusing on doing the the discipline, focusing on doing the the discipline, focusing on doing the blocking and tackling of preparing for blocking and tackling of preparing for blocking and tackling of preparing for an economic winter, so on and so forth, an economic winter, so on and so forth, an economic winter, so on and so forth, preparing to defend our nation, etc., preparing to defend our nation, etc., preparing to defend our nation, etc., etc. And so the spectacle of this debate etc. And so the spectacle of this debate etc. And so the spectacle of this debate is all about two guys that are clearly is all about two guys that are clearly is all about two guys that are clearly trolling trying to get into the WNBA. Uh trolling trying to get into the WNBA. Uh trolling trying to get into the WNBA. Uh but the real argument is one of but the real argument is one of but the real argument is one of discriminatory borders having a very discriminatory borders having a very discriminatory borders having a very important role in creating um important role in creating um important role in creating um protections and people very rarely are protections and people very rarely are protections and people very rarely are able to have the argument at that layer able to have the argument at that layer able to have the argument at that layer which is the only productive layer. which is the only productive layer. which is the only productive layer. Instead, they're going to scream and Instead, they're going to scream and Instead, they're going to scream and shout about care and fairness, etc. Or shout about care and fairness, etc. Or shout about care and fairness, etc. Or on the other side where you've got the on the other side where you've got the on the other side where you've got the right that are trolling, just trying to right that are trolling, just trying to right that are trolling, just trying to get everybody to accept you guys are get everybody to accept you guys are get everybody to accept you guys are stupid. You can't even define what a stupid. You can't even define what a stupid. You can't even define what a woman is. That it really isn't that. woman is. That it really isn't that. woman is. That it really isn't that. Like imagine somebody instead with a Like imagine somebody instead with a Like imagine somebody instead with a real sincere heart trying to say woman real sincere heart trying to say woman real sincere heart trying to say woman is an exclusionary category. If somebody is an exclusionary category. If somebody is an exclusionary category. If somebody has the even if you want to say that has the even if you want to say that has the even if you want to say that it's mental illness, but they have this it's mental illness, but they have this it's mental illness, but they have this feeling that they're completely divorced feeling that they're completely divorced feeling that they're completely divorced from their own body. It doesn't feel from their own body. It doesn't feel from their own body. It doesn't feel right. Now, as a parenthetical around right. Now, as a parenthetical around right. Now, as a parenthetical around that, there are people that get parts of that, there are people that get parts of that, there are people that get parts of their body amputated because a part of their body amputated because a part of their body amputated because a part of their brain does not, this is a real their brain does not, this is a real their brain does not, this is a real thing, a part of their brain is unable thing, a part of their brain is unable thing, a part of their brain is unable to recognize a leg or an arm as part of to recognize a leg or an arm as part of to recognize a leg or an arm as part of their own body. So they feel that an their own body. So they feel that an their own body. So they feel that an alien limb has been grafted onto them alien limb has been grafted onto them alien limb has been grafted onto them and they they are just freaking out and they they are just freaking out and they they are just freaking out because they have this alien thing because they have this alien thing because they have this alien thing that's a part of their body and they that's a part of their body and they that's a part of their body and they know that their life would be better if know that their life would be better if know that their life would be better if they got rid of it. Again, you could you they got rid of it. Again, you could you they got rid of it. Again, you could you can sum it up as mental illness and just can sum it up as mental illness and just can sum it up as mental illness and just wipe that person away or you can wipe that person away or you can wipe that person away or you can remember that that would suck and there remember that that would suck and there remember that that would suck and there but for the grace of God you right that but for the grace of God you right that but for the grace of God you right that could have happened to you. And if could have happened to you. And if could have happened to you. And if somebody is in that position and they're somebody is in that position and they're somebody is in that position and they're being excluded from an artificial being excluded from an artificial being excluded from an artificial category of woman, then why don't we category of woman, then why don't we category of woman, then why don't we just break those walls down and let just break those walls down and let just break those walls down and let people come in? Now, there is a reason people come in? Now, there is a reason people come in? Now, there is a reason and it's an extraordinarily profoundly and it's an extraordinarily profoundly and it's an extraordinarily profoundly important reason and we must do it. But important reason and we must do it. But important reason and we must do it. But if you see somebody that is legitimately if you see somebody that is legitimately if you see somebody that is legitimately like, "But that sucks and I don't want like, "But that sucks and I don't want like, "But that sucks and I don't want to see this person that I love and care to see this person that I love and care to see this person that I love and care about or just knowing that there are about or just knowing that there are about or just knowing that there are people I don't even know them, but just people I don't even know them, but just people I don't even know them, but just knowing that they're suffering in that knowing that they're suffering in that knowing that they're suffering in that way and we can simply break down these way and we can simply break down these way and we can simply break down these borders and they would feel loved and borders and they would feel loved and borders and they would feel loved and included like why won't we do that, included like why won't we do that, included like why won't we do that, right? That becomes the the argument if right? That becomes the the argument if right? That becomes the the argument if you can take that on board." And so you can take that on board." And so you can take that on board." And so again, you can't give into it. you've again, you can't give into it. you've again, you can't give into it. you've got to put up these borders because got to put up these borders because got to put up these borders because there are all these insane knock-on there are all these insane knock-on there are all these insane knock-on effects that become wildly problematic effects that become wildly problematic effects that become wildly problematic that absolutely disintegrate your that absolutely disintegrate your that absolutely disintegrate your society, your society devolves into society, your society devolves into society, your society devolves into madness. But if you can't at least madness. But if you can't at least madness. But if you can't at least understand how a sincere person could understand how a sincere person could understand how a sincere person could end up there, um then it just becomes we end up there, um then it just becomes we end up there, um then it just becomes we argue at the level of spectacle always argue at the level of spectacle always argue at the level of spectacle always and forever. And by not reorienting and forever. And by not reorienting and forever. And by not reorienting ourselves and grounding in what's really ourselves and grounding in what's really ourselves and grounding in what's really happening, um, happening, um, happening, um, then we don't put in the solves. And then we don't put in the solves. And then we don't put in the solves. And without the solutions, we might have a without the solutions, we might have a without the solutions, we might have a great time at the level of theater. We great time at the level of theater. We great time at the level of theater. We might have a great time calling the might have a great time calling the might have a great time calling the other side stupid. That might be other side stupid. That might be other side stupid. That might be wonderful or evil. Um, it isn't going to wonderful or evil. Um, it isn't going to wonderful or evil. Um, it isn't going to solve the problem. And so the empire solve the problem. And so the empire solve the problem. And so the empire does crumble. And then we find ourselves does crumble. And then we find ourselves does crumble. And then we find ourselves in so much pain and suffering that we in so much pain and suffering that we in so much pain and suffering that we will once again embrace the very will once again embrace the very will once again embrace the very difficult things. But boy do I hope that difficult things. But boy do I hope that difficult things. But boy do I hope that we can get out of this and not need to we can get out of this and not need to we can get out of this and not need to go to that level of suffering. go to that level of suffering. go to that level of suffering. >> Understood. I want to move on to the >> Understood. I want to move on to the >> Understood. I want to move on to the round war. round war. round war. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Um there's been a lot of speculation >> Um there's been a lot of speculation >> Um there's been a lot of speculation about what's going on right now, but about what's going on right now, but about what's going on right now, but this is from the Kobayashi letter this is from the Kobayashi letter this is from the Kobayashi letter breaking. President Trump has been breaking. President Trump has been breaking. President Trump has been floating the idea privately to senior floating the idea privately to senior floating the idea privately to senior aids that he's willing to walk away from aids that he's willing to walk away from aids that he's willing to walk away from the Iran war without a nuclear deal the Iran war without a nuclear deal the Iran war without a nuclear deal should Iran fully reopen the straight of should Iran fully reopen the straight of should Iran fully reopen the straight of hermoose per the Wall Street Journal. hermoose per the Wall Street Journal. hermoose per the Wall Street Journal. Details include this objective Details include this objective Details include this objective reportedly became more difficult reportedly became more difficult reportedly became more difficult yesterday when Iran insisted on its yesterday when Iran insisted on its yesterday when Iran insisted on its highest price yet for reopening the highest price yet for reopening the highest price yet for reopening the straight of Hermoose. Two, Iran is now straight of Hermoose. Two, Iran is now straight of Hermoose. Two, Iran is now seeking billions of dollars in US seeking billions of dollars in US seeking billions of dollars in US payments, the removal of US troops from payments, the removal of US troops from payments, the removal of US troops from the region, among other things to reopen the region, among other things to reopen the region, among other things to reopen Hermoose. Three, US officials said Trump Hermoose. Three, US officials said Trump Hermoose. Three, US officials said Trump is patient and expected to write out the is patient and expected to write out the is patient and expected to write out the latest developments as long as gas latest developments as long as gas latest developments as long as gas prices remain where they are. for Trump prices remain where they are. for Trump prices remain where they are. for Trump has reportedly told senior aids that has reportedly told senior aids that has reportedly told senior aids that Iran is likely unable to revive its Iran is likely unable to revive its Iran is likely unable to revive its nuclear work during his presidency. The nuclear work during his presidency. The nuclear work during his presidency. The Iran war negotiations are becoming Iran war negotiations are becoming Iran war negotiations are becoming increasingly complicated. increasingly complicated. increasingly complicated. Yeah. So to me, none of this is new. Yeah. So to me, none of this is new. Yeah. So to me, none of this is new. This is basically the Trump This is basically the Trump This is basically the Trump administration uh floating new administration uh floating new administration uh floating new propaganda to see how people respond. Um propaganda to see how people respond. Um propaganda to see how people respond. Um so as Drew was just saying, reports are so as Drew was just saying, reports are so as Drew was just saying, reports are that privately Trump is admitting that that privately Trump is admitting that that privately Trump is admitting that he can't win the war in Iran. Uh and now he can't win the war in Iran. Uh and now he can't win the war in Iran. Uh and now he's just looking for an exit ramp. This he's just looking for an exit ramp. This he's just looking for an exit ramp. This is something we've been talking about is something we've been talking about is something we've been talking about for a long time. It is self-evident that for a long time. It is self-evident that for a long time. It is self-evident that this was going to be the case. Uh he was this was going to be the case. Uh he was this was going to be the case. Uh he was trying to do these very fast strikes trying to do these very fast strikes trying to do these very fast strikes that were reminiscent of what he did in that were reminiscent of what he did in that were reminiscent of what he did in Venezuela. It didn't work. And once Venezuela. It didn't work. And once Venezuela. It didn't work. And once you're running up against uh a public you're running up against uh a public you're running up against uh a public that is unwilling to support this and that is unwilling to support this and that is unwilling to support this and you can't make the weaponry fast enough you can't make the weaponry fast enough you can't make the weaponry fast enough and the new um way of using asymmetrical and the new um way of using asymmetrical and the new um way of using asymmetrical warfare, largely using cheap drones that warfare, largely using cheap drones that warfare, largely using cheap drones that have to be defended against with far have to be defended against with far have to be defended against with far more expensive ordinances, you were more expensive ordinances, you were more expensive ordinances, you were going to end up in this situation. Now, going to end up in this situation. Now, going to end up in this situation. Now, the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday the Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that Trump is privately talking to his that Trump is privately talking to his that Trump is privately talking to his senior aids and letting them know that senior aids and letting them know that senior aids and letting them know that he might be willing to end the campaign he might be willing to end the campaign he might be willing to end the campaign even without a nuclear deal. Now, I even without a nuclear deal. Now, I even without a nuclear deal. Now, I think what he's saying here that they're think what he's saying here that they're think what he's saying here that they're not going to be able to build their not going to be able to build their not going to be able to build their rebuild their nuclear program is rebuild their nuclear program is rebuild their nuclear program is propaganda. I think the real answer is propaganda. I think the real answer is propaganda. I think the real answer is they probably won't be able to rebuild they probably won't be able to rebuild they probably won't be able to rebuild it while he's in office. Uh but this it while he's in office. Uh but this it while he's in office. Uh but this either was a problem or it wasn't. And either was a problem or it wasn't. And either was a problem or it wasn't. And if we haven't broken their will to if we haven't broken their will to if we haven't broken their will to pursue it, then we know that they are pursue it, then we know that they are pursue it, then we know that they are going to pursue it. Now, good sense going to pursue it. Now, good sense going to pursue it. Now, good sense still may be that you've just got to still may be that you've just got to still may be that you've just got to eject out of this. So, I'm not saying eject out of this. So, I'm not saying eject out of this. So, I'm not saying that um that means that he's got to keep that um that means that he's got to keep that um that means that he's got to keep going. I think that if he doesn't if he going. I think that if he doesn't if he going. I think that if he doesn't if he is unable to because I actually don't is unable to because I actually don't is unable to because I actually don't think that we're in an unwilling I think think that we're in an unwilling I think think that we're in an unwilling I think he really is unable I think that we have he really is unable I think that we have he really is unable I think that we have made so many foolish decisions over the made so many foolish decisions over the made so many foolish decisions over the last 30 years about manufacturing that last 30 years about manufacturing that last 30 years about manufacturing that we really are in a position where we're we really are in a position where we're we really are in a position where we're not going to be able to make these and not going to be able to make these and not going to be able to make these and we'll talk more about this when we get we'll talk more about this when we get we'll talk more about this when we get to the um Ukraine war and selling them to the um Ukraine war and selling them to the um Ukraine war and selling them munitions and not being willing to let munitions and not being willing to let munitions and not being willing to let them build them themselves. But the fact them build them themselves. But the fact them build them themselves. But the fact that we're not able to make our own that we're not able to make our own that we're not able to make our own munitions, you're you're just now you munitions, you're you're just now you munitions, you're you're just now you are actually stuck. You're not going to are actually stuck. You're not going to are actually stuck. You're not going to be able to put enough force on Iran that be able to put enough force on Iran that be able to put enough force on Iran that they're going to break and then give you they're going to break and then give you they're going to break and then give you the concessions that they want. And the concessions that they want. And the concessions that they want. And being the the way that our government being the the way that our government being the the way that our government works with the election cycles, works with the election cycles, works with the election cycles, democracy, um we are not going to just democracy, um we are not going to just democracy, um we are not going to just be able to push through all of this and be able to push through all of this and be able to push through all of this and make our people deal with whatever make our people deal with whatever make our people deal with whatever happens economically. They're just going happens economically. They're just going happens economically. They're just going to vote the Republicans out of power. to vote the Republicans out of power. to vote the Republicans out of power. And so Trump knows that. So now he's And so Trump knows that. So now he's And so Trump knows that. So now he's floating this new propaganda to see how floating this new propaganda to see how floating this new propaganda to see how people respond and he's going to test people respond and he's going to test people respond and he's going to test out the language of okay, they won't be out the language of okay, they won't be out the language of okay, they won't be able to rebuild their nuclear program. able to rebuild their nuclear program. able to rebuild their nuclear program. And if people go, yeah, yeah, word, And if people go, yeah, yeah, word, And if people go, yeah, yeah, word, they're not going to be able to rebuild they're not going to be able to rebuild they're not going to be able to rebuild their nuclear program, then he's going their nuclear program, then he's going their nuclear program, then he's going to take that exit ramp. If people go, to take that exit ramp. If people go, to take that exit ramp. If people go, hey, hold on. You kept saying that this hey, hold on. You kept saying that this hey, hold on. You kept saying that this is why you were pushing it. What is why you were pushing it. What is why you were pushing it. What changed? Nothing changed. So the fact changed? Nothing changed. So the fact changed? Nothing changed. So the fact that nothing has changed other than that that nothing has changed other than that that nothing has changed other than that you can see that you're not going to be you can see that you're not going to be you can see that you're not going to be able to get a deal. um then this was all able to get a deal. um then this was all able to get a deal. um then this was all for not. You never should have gone in for not. You never should have gone in for not. You never should have gone in in the first place. You didn't have the in the first place. You didn't have the in the first place. You didn't have the will or you didn't have the ability to will or you didn't have the ability to will or you didn't have the ability to see this all the way through. You assess see this all the way through. You assess see this all the way through. You assess this situation very poorly. If that's this situation very poorly. If that's this situation very poorly. If that's the response that he gets, now he's back the response that he gets, now he's back the response that he gets, now he's back in a difficult situation. Now, I think in a difficult situation. Now, I think in a difficult situation. Now, I think the reality is he's going to get some of the reality is he's going to get some of the reality is he's going to get some of all of the above. His most like hardcore all of the above. His most like hardcore all of the above. His most like hardcore supporters are going to say, "Yeah, supporters are going to say, "Yeah, supporters are going to say, "Yeah, cool. Yes, they're never going to be cool. Yes, they're never going to be cool. Yes, they're never going to be able to rebuild it. Got it. Great." And able to rebuild it. Got it. Great." And able to rebuild it. Got it. Great." And they'll have the words that they'll be they'll have the words that they'll be they'll have the words that they'll be able to say for the next 18 months. Um, able to say for the next 18 months. Um, able to say for the next 18 months. Um, but people that are in the center or on but people that are in the center or on but people that are in the center or on the left, they're all going to say the left, they're all going to say the left, they're all going to say that's He obviously overplayed that's He obviously overplayed that's He obviously overplayed his hand. He did not have all the cards his hand. He did not have all the cards his hand. He did not have all the cards as he wanted us to believe. Um, and we as he wanted us to believe. Um, and we as he wanted us to believe. Um, and we never should have gone into this war in never should have gone into this war in never should have gone into this war in the first place. And the great irony the first place. And the great irony the first place. And the great irony that the only thing that's allowing him that the only thing that's allowing him that the only thing that's allowing him to buy more time is that we're probably to buy more time is that we're probably to buy more time is that we're probably uh in the middle of a global recession uh in the middle of a global recession uh in the middle of a global recession that is far darker than anybody wants to that is far darker than anybody wants to that is far darker than anybody wants to admit, led by China. And given that the admit, led by China. And given that the admit, led by China. And given that the oil demand has been being destroyed for oil demand has been being destroyed for oil demand has been being destroyed for quite some time and China was just quite some time and China was just quite some time and China was just masking that by building up this masking that by building up this masking that by building up this absolutely gigantic historic stockpile absolutely gigantic historic stockpile absolutely gigantic historic stockpile of oil instead of earlier before the of oil instead of earlier before the of oil instead of earlier before the Iran war beginning to back off which Iran war beginning to back off which Iran war beginning to back off which would have signaled to the world that would have signaled to the world that would have signaled to the world that their economy was not as good as they their economy was not as good as they their economy was not as good as they were claiming it was. Um that that's the were claiming it was. Um that that's the were claiming it was. Um that that's the only thing that's going to allow gas only thing that's going to allow gas only thing that's going to allow gas prices to stay as muted as they are and prices to stay as muted as they are and prices to stay as muted as they are and buys him more time. But knowing if he if buys him more time. But knowing if he if buys him more time. But knowing if he if anybody is telling this guy the truth anybody is telling this guy the truth anybody is telling this guy the truth and is making it clear that we basically and is making it clear that we basically and is making it clear that we basically never rebounded from the 2008 financial never rebounded from the 2008 financial never rebounded from the 2008 financial crisis. We're still in the aftermath of crisis. We're still in the aftermath of crisis. We're still in the aftermath of that. We've just been masking it with that. We've just been masking it with that. We've just been masking it with more cheap labor, more cheap goods, uh more cheap labor, more cheap goods, uh more cheap labor, more cheap goods, uh and massive inflation. and massive inflation. and massive inflation. That that is not the out that you want. That that is not the out that you want. That that is not the out that you want. that is not the thing that you want that is not the thing that you want that is not the thing that you want buying you time because then it buys you buying you time because then it buys you buying you time because then it buys you time to get out from under uh the Iran time to get out from under uh the Iran time to get out from under uh the Iran war, but it's not going to give you the war, but it's not going to give you the war, but it's not going to give you the growth that you need in order to growth that you need in order to growth that you need in order to maintain uh Republican control. And so maintain uh Republican control. And so maintain uh Republican control. And so if the economy is going downhill, then if the economy is going downhill, then if the economy is going downhill, then whether they lose at the midterms or whether they lose at the midterms or whether they lose at the midterms or not, the odds they lose in uh 2028 go not, the odds they lose in uh 2028 go not, the odds they lose in uh 2028 go way up. And so then you get the only way up. And so then you get the only way up. And so then you get the only other saving grace is are we now so far other saving grace is are we now so far other saving grace is are we now so far to the left? Has the Democratic Party to the left? Has the Democratic Party to the left? Has the Democratic Party been so captured by the far-left uh been so captured by the far-left uh been so captured by the far-left uh communists? And oh god, this is one of communists? And oh god, this is one of communists? And oh god, this is one of those things they really are communist. those things they really are communist. those things they really are communist. They're they're provably communist in They're they're provably communist in They're they're provably communist in their own words. So I don't mean that as their own words. So I don't mean that as their own words. So I don't mean that as a buzzword. I don't mean that as like a buzzword. I don't mean that as like a buzzword. I don't mean that as like somebody who's got a closet full of mega somebody who's got a closet full of mega somebody who's got a closet full of mega hats. Uh I mean that as literally they hats. Uh I mean that as literally they hats. Uh I mean that as literally they are communist in policy. um if they are communist in policy. um if they are communist in policy. um if they become so far captured, it's possible become so far captured, it's possible become so far captured, it's possible that they have shot themselves in the that they have shot themselves in the that they have shot themselves in the foot. But god, is that where we want to foot. But god, is that where we want to foot. But god, is that where we want to be? Do we want more bad economic policy be? Do we want more bad economic policy be? Do we want more bad economic policy on the right to win because the bad on the right to win because the bad on the right to win because the bad economic policy on the left is just that economic policy on the left is just that economic policy on the left is just that much worse? much worse? much worse? Let's not let that happen. Boys and Let's not let that happen. Boys and Let's not let that happen. Boys and girls, if you are a part of this girls, if you are a part of this girls, if you are a part of this community, let's really focus on the community, let's really focus on the community, let's really focus on the things that we would need to do. We will things that we would need to do. We will things that we would need to do. We will certainly spend our time lamenting the certainly spend our time lamenting the certainly spend our time lamenting the things that don't make sense. We will things that don't make sense. We will things that don't make sense. We will certainly spend our time directly certainly spend our time directly certainly spend our time directly contradicting communist policies and contradicting communist policies and contradicting communist policies and explaining why they don't work. But explaining why they don't work. But explaining why they don't work. But let's also remember that being proud of let's also remember that being proud of let's also remember that being proud of your country, whether that's the US or your country, whether that's the US or your country, whether that's the US or whatever country you're part of, is a whatever country you're part of, is a whatever country you're part of, is a very wise idea. Finding your way back to very wise idea. Finding your way back to very wise idea. Finding your way back to the middle to love the people that see the middle to love the people that see the middle to love the people that see the world differently than you, is very the world differently than you, is very the world differently than you, is very wise. You need to battle their ideas. wise. You need to battle their ideas. wise. You need to battle their ideas. There's no doubt about that. But boy, do There's no doubt about that. But boy, do There's no doubt about that. But boy, do you want to recognize that yes, there you want to recognize that yes, there you want to recognize that yes, there are some people, this is a naked power are some people, this is a naked power are some people, this is a naked power grab and they are evil and they are bad grab and they are evil and they are bad grab and they are evil and they are bad and we will need to talk about them, and we will need to talk about them, and we will need to talk about them, isolate them, point to the things that isolate them, point to the things that isolate them, point to the things that they're doing that are that. But we also they're doing that are that. But we also they're doing that are that. But we also need to remember that there are people need to remember that there are people need to remember that there are people that are diametrically opposed to our that are diametrically opposed to our that are diametrically opposed to our our ideas, but they are sincere people our ideas, but they are sincere people our ideas, but they are sincere people and they really want something good. And and they really want something good. And and they really want something good. And you have to find a way to march together you have to find a way to march together you have to find a way to march together and marching together means and marching together means and marching together means understanding what are the things that understanding what are the things that understanding what are the things that they need as well. You you've got to they need as well. You you've got to they need as well. You you've got to want that dynamic tension. Um, so we'll want that dynamic tension. Um, so we'll want that dynamic tension. Um, so we'll spend an inordinate amount of time on spend an inordinate amount of time on spend an inordinate amount of time on this channel talking about those things. this channel talking about those things. this channel talking about those things. So I want to see America do well. I want So I want to see America do well. I want So I want to see America do well. I want to see America work for the middle to see America work for the middle to see America work for the middle class. And I want to see an America that class. And I want to see an America that class. And I want to see an America that finds its way back to the middle that finds its way back to the middle that finds its way back to the middle that doesn't spend its time, certainly not doesn't spend its time, certainly not doesn't spend its time, certainly not exclusively, dunking on the other side exclusively, dunking on the other side exclusively, dunking on the other side and saying how stupid they are. We need and saying how stupid they are. We need and saying how stupid they are. We need to find a path to get back together. to find a path to get back together. to find a path to get back together. >> Uh, I'm trying >> Uh, I'm trying >> Uh, I'm trying >> What was that? What was that button? >> What was that? What was that button? >> What was that? What was that button? >> Yeah, we got a new button. >> Yeah, we got a new button. >> Yeah, we got a new button. I love democracy. I love democracy. I love democracy. >> Oh, okay. Um, >> Oh, okay. Um, >> Oh, okay. Um, >> well, democracy is going to be debated. >> well, democracy is going to be debated. >> well, democracy is going to be debated. I'll just tell you that that's going to I'll just tell you that that's going to I'll just tell you that that's going to get get get >> uh I'm I'm verifying this, but there was >> uh I'm I'm verifying this, but there was >> uh I'm I'm verifying this, but there was a lot of um Iranian script and I can't a lot of um Iranian script and I can't a lot of um Iranian script and I can't read. So, I'm sorry, guys. But the read. So, I'm sorry, guys. But the read. So, I'm sorry, guys. But the Hermoose report is now reporting that Hermoose report is now reporting that Hermoose report is now reporting that Iran has completely wrote out any future Iran has completely wrote out any future Iran has completely wrote out any future negotiations with the Trump negotiations with the Trump negotiations with the Trump administration, declaring it will wait administration, declaring it will wait administration, declaring it will wait out Donald Trump's term until January out Donald Trump's term until January out Donald Trump's term until January 2029. 2029. 2029. >> Yeah. And why not? Like, if they know >> Yeah. And why not? Like, if they know >> Yeah. And why not? Like, if they know So, okay, listen. Um, we're being So, okay, listen. Um, we're being So, okay, listen. Um, we're being propagandized by Iran. We're being propagandized by Iran. We're being propagandized by Iran. We're being propagandized by the Trump propagandized by the Trump propagandized by the Trump administration. We're being administration. We're being administration. We're being propagandized by the mainstream media. propagandized by the mainstream media. propagandized by the mainstream media. Anytime anybody uses a word, they are Anytime anybody uses a word, they are Anytime anybody uses a word, they are propagandizing you. Myself included. You propagandizing you. Myself included. You propagandizing you. Myself included. You can't speak without trying to pull can't speak without trying to pull can't speak without trying to pull people into your frame of reference. people into your frame of reference. people into your frame of reference. Now, some people do it cynically. Uh, Now, some people do it cynically. Uh, Now, some people do it cynically. Uh, mainstream media is cynical. Um, anybody mainstream media is cynical. Um, anybody mainstream media is cynical. Um, anybody who's partisan is cynical. So, for sure who's partisan is cynical. So, for sure who's partisan is cynical. So, for sure the Trump administration is cynical. Uh, the Trump administration is cynical. Uh, the Trump administration is cynical. Uh, Iran for sure is cynical. So, you have Iran for sure is cynical. So, you have Iran for sure is cynical. So, you have to like filter through all of that. Um, to like filter through all of that. Um, to like filter through all of that. Um, it's entirely possible that the economic it's entirely possible that the economic it's entirely possible that the economic situation in Iran is worse than they're situation in Iran is worse than they're situation in Iran is worse than they're letting on. It would almost have to be letting on. It would almost have to be letting on. It would almost have to be uh one of their primary GDP generators uh one of their primary GDP generators uh one of their primary GDP generators is energy and that has certainly been is energy and that has certainly been is energy and that has certainly been wildly disrupted. But can they outweigh wildly disrupted. But can they outweigh wildly disrupted. But can they outweigh us? Yes, of course they can. Any country us? Yes, of course they can. Any country us? Yes, of course they can. Any country that's willing to make its people suffer that's willing to make its people suffer that's willing to make its people suffer uh is going to be able to wait for a uh is going to be able to wait for a uh is going to be able to wait for a very very very long time. It's not like very very very long time. It's not like very very very long time. It's not like Iran is going to fall into the sea. Iran is going to fall into the sea. Iran is going to fall into the sea. >> Um, so that's what people need to >> Um, so that's what people need to >> Um, so that's what people need to understand. Now, are they going to have understand. Now, are they going to have understand. Now, are they going to have some sort of Soviet collapse style? some sort of Soviet collapse style? some sort of Soviet collapse style? Almost certainly not. Uh, so you've got Almost certainly not. Uh, so you've got Almost certainly not. Uh, so you've got a theocratic regime. They are still in a theocratic regime. They are still in a theocratic regime. They are still in control unless they have their own control unless they have their own control unless they have their own internal civil war. And members of the internal civil war. And members of the internal civil war. And members of the IRGC specifically are so divided that IRGC specifically are so divided that IRGC specifically are so divided that they end up uh in a bad place. That that they end up uh in a bad place. That that they end up uh in a bad place. That that is the only way that you could hope that is the only way that you could hope that is the only way that you could hope that they become so internally they become so internally they become so internally discombobulated that you can just sort discombobulated that you can just sort discombobulated that you can just sort of ignore them, unite the rest of the of ignore them, unite the rest of the of ignore them, unite the rest of the GCC countries. They become so GCC countries. They become so GCC countries. They become so dysfunctional that they can't really do dysfunctional that they can't really do dysfunctional that they can't really do anything. Um but it's going to take the anything. Um but it's going to take the anything. Um but it's going to take the the only way to do that is to bury the the only way to do that is to bury the the only way to do that is to bury the pipelines. They're working on it now. pipelines. They're working on it now. pipelines. They're working on it now. Meaning the other countries work around Meaning the other countries work around Meaning the other countries work around the straight of Hormuz. This is a big the straight of Hormuz. This is a big the straight of Hormuz. This is a big part of the cynical in my opinion part of the cynical in my opinion part of the cynical in my opinion propaganda coming out of the Trump propaganda coming out of the Trump propaganda coming out of the Trump administration. Uh is you've got Bessant administration. Uh is you've got Bessant administration. Uh is you've got Bessant saying, "Oh, we're just going to make saying, "Oh, we're just going to make saying, "Oh, we're just going to make the straight of Hormuz irrelevant. the straight of Hormuz irrelevant. the straight of Hormuz irrelevant. You're going to hear Trump talk a lot. You're going to hear Trump talk a lot. You're going to hear Trump talk a lot. He's already said this. You're going to He's already said this. You're going to He's already said this. You're going to hear more of it. Uh we don't even need hear more of it. Uh we don't even need hear more of it. Uh we don't even need the straight. So we're just going to let the straight. So we're just going to let the straight. So we're just going to let the other countries come and deal with the other countries come and deal with the other countries come and deal with this themselves." But the reality Yeah. this themselves." But the reality Yeah. this themselves." But the reality Yeah. If you want to play that clip, If you want to play that clip, If you want to play that clip, >> who've speculated the straight will >> who've speculated the straight will >> who've speculated the straight will never go back to being the way it was never go back to being the way it was never go back to being the way it was before. What would you say? before. What would you say? before. What would you say? >> I I would say I would take I think >> I I would say I would take I think >> I I would say I would take I think they're saying that in a a doomsday sort they're saying that in a a doomsday sort they're saying that in a a doomsday sort of way. I I would say it in another way. of way. I I would say it in another way. of way. I I would say it in another way. The straight is never going back to the The straight is never going back to the The straight is never going back to the way it was because the Iranians have way it was because the Iranians have way it was because the Iranians have used or tried to use it as a choke used or tried to use it as a choke used or tried to use it as a choke point. What we are going to see over the point. What we are going to see over the point. What we are going to see over the next two years, the strait's going to next two years, the strait's going to next two years, the strait's going to become irrelevant. It is going to become become irrelevant. It is going to become become irrelevant. It is going to become just another body of water and I would just another body of water and I would just another body of water and I would say that more than 50 or 70% of the say that more than 50 or 70% of the say that more than 50 or 70% of the energy that moves through the straight energy that moves through the straight energy that moves through the straight now is going to go through underground now is going to go through underground now is going to go through underground pipelines. pipelines. pipelines. >> Okay. So that is almost certainly true >> Okay. So that is almost certainly true >> Okay. So that is almost certainly true but that is going to take a very long but that is going to take a very long but that is going to take a very long time to pull off. Uh in the meantime time to pull off. Uh in the meantime time to pull off. Uh in the meantime people are also going to be people are also going to be people are also going to be transitioning over to solar. That is transitioning over to solar. That is transitioning over to solar. That is certainly true. Look at what's happening certainly true. Look at what's happening certainly true. Look at what's happening in China. But the west largely is just in China. But the west largely is just in China. But the west largely is just completely out of their minds. They're completely out of their minds. They're completely out of their minds. They're dysfunctional. There's so much dysfunctional. There's so much dysfunctional. There's so much infighting in so many places in the infighting in so many places in the infighting in so many places in the West. Um that this paints a picture that West. Um that this paints a picture that West. Um that this paints a picture that makes it sound like this is going to be makes it sound like this is going to be makes it sound like this is going to be easy. This is not going to be easy. And easy. This is not going to be easy. And easy. This is not going to be easy. And we're going to have to start fixing a we're going to have to start fixing a we're going to have to start fixing a lot of our economic problems if we want lot of our economic problems if we want lot of our economic problems if we want to not just get out from under the war to not just get out from under the war to not just get out from under the war in Iran, but we actually want to get in Iran, but we actually want to get in Iran, but we actually want to get things trending in the right direction. things trending in the right direction. things trending in the right direction. Europe is an absolute mess. They are Europe is an absolute mess. They are Europe is an absolute mess. They are acting like uh the US is going to take acting like uh the US is going to take acting like uh the US is going to take care of them forever. They're acting care of them forever. They're acting care of them forever. They're acting like they don't have to innovate. like they don't have to innovate. like they don't have to innovate. They're acting like they don't have to They're acting like they don't have to They're acting like they don't have to make any trade-offs. Remember, these are make any trade-offs. Remember, these are make any trade-offs. Remember, these are countries that won't even let their countries that won't even let their countries that won't even let their citizens have AC, man. Like, this is so citizens have AC, man. Like, this is so citizens have AC, man. Like, this is so wild. They are killing far Yes, they are wild. They are killing far Yes, they are wild. They are killing far Yes, they are killing far more people from heat stroke killing far more people from heat stroke killing far more people from heat stroke than um are dying from anything related than um are dying from anything related than um are dying from anything related to um atmospheric admission uh to um atmospheric admission uh to um atmospheric admission uh emissions. So, it's like this is like emissions. So, it's like this is like emissions. So, it's like this is like it's wild. So, anyway, we're going to it's wild. So, anyway, we're going to it's wild. So, anyway, we're going to have to get out from under all of that. have to get out from under all of that. have to get out from under all of that. We're going to have to get things moving We're going to have to get things moving We're going to have to get things moving in the right direction. That is going to in the right direction. That is going to in the right direction. That is going to be a absolutely massive mountain to be a absolutely massive mountain to be a absolutely massive mountain to climb. This is propaganda. So, it it's climb. This is propaganda. So, it it's climb. This is propaganda. So, it it's one of those it's both true and being one of those it's both true and being one of those it's both true and being framed in a way that is propagandistic framed in a way that is propagandistic framed in a way that is propagandistic because they're making it sound so easy. because they're making it sound so easy. because they're making it sound so easy. So, don't buy into any of that stuff. So, don't buy into any of that stuff. So, don't buy into any of that stuff. Okay. All of that to say, Iran is Okay. All of that to say, Iran is Okay. All of that to say, Iran is probably in much bigger trouble than probably in much bigger trouble than probably in much bigger trouble than they want to let on, but they'll be able they want to let on, but they'll be able they want to let on, but they'll be able to wait out the the thing they'll be to wait out the the thing they'll be to wait out the the thing they'll be able to wait out the Trump able to wait out the Trump able to wait out the Trump administration. The thing that should be administration. The thing that should be administration. The thing that should be on everybody's um list of questions to on everybody's um list of questions to on everybody's um list of questions to get answered is what is going to happen get answered is what is going to happen get answered is what is going to happen between a Democratic party that is being between a Democratic party that is being between a Democratic party that is being pulled farther and farther left and when pulled farther and farther left and when pulled farther and farther left and when they meet uh Republicans in uh not a they meet uh Republicans in uh not a they meet uh Republicans in uh not a primary but an actual open election and primary but an actual open election and primary but an actual open election and that remains a huge question mark and so that remains a huge question mark and so that remains a huge question mark and so we don't have that answer. Now if they we don't have that answer. Now if they we don't have that answer. Now if they actually start winning and you can have actually start winning and you can have actually start winning and you can have like the one for me is Franchesca Hong. like the one for me is Franchesca Hong. like the one for me is Franchesca Hong. She first of all is not intellectually She first of all is not intellectually She first of all is not intellectually um powerful at all. You look at somebody um powerful at all. You look at somebody um powerful at all. You look at somebody like mom Donnie, he's smart. He's super like mom Donnie, he's smart. He's super like mom Donnie, he's smart. He's super eloquent. His smile is so warm and eloquent. His smile is so warm and eloquent. His smile is so warm and inviting. And you you uh dismiss that at inviting. And you you uh dismiss that at inviting. And you you uh dismiss that at your peril. And so you've got somebody your peril. And so you've got somebody your peril. And so you've got somebody who knows how to play the game. You've who knows how to play the game. You've who knows how to play the game. You've got somebody who's got real star power. got somebody who's got real star power. got somebody who's got real star power. People want to be around him. Franchesca People want to be around him. Franchesca People want to be around him. Franchesca Hong is unimpressive in every way. Um Hong is unimpressive in every way. Um Hong is unimpressive in every way. Um she is not eloquent. She's not powerful. she is not eloquent. She's not powerful. she is not eloquent. She's not powerful. She just says the party line. So if She just says the party line. So if She just says the party line. So if somebody who simply recites the party somebody who simply recites the party somebody who simply recites the party line uh goes from saying that line uh goes from saying that line uh goes from saying that Thanksgiving is problematic and we Thanksgiving is problematic and we Thanksgiving is problematic and we should have gotten rid of it back in should have gotten rid of it back in should have gotten rid of it back in 1621 or whatever date she gave uh and is 1621 or whatever date she gave uh and is 1621 or whatever date she gave uh and is now saying it it is my favorite and I now saying it it is my favorite and I now saying it it is my favorite and I quote my favorite holiday. Uh I don't quote my favorite holiday. Uh I don't quote my favorite holiday. Uh I don't want to cancel it. And by the way saying want to cancel it. And by the way saying want to cancel it. And by the way saying it like she is I don't want to be it like she is I don't want to be it like she is I don't want to be unkind. She's saying it like she's unkind. She's saying it like she's unkind. She's saying it like she's tired. You could certainly read that as tired. You could certainly read that as tired. You could certainly read that as um the SSRI eyes. I hate to say it. um the SSRI eyes. I hate to say it. um the SSRI eyes. I hate to say it. That's probably uncharitable and shame That's probably uncharitable and shame That's probably uncharitable and shame on me. But nonetheless, at a minimum, on me. But nonetheless, at a minimum, on me. But nonetheless, at a minimum, she seems fatigued and uninspiring. So she seems fatigued and uninspiring. So she seems fatigued and uninspiring. So on that, I would say if she wins, yikes, on that, I would say if she wins, yikes, on that, I would say if she wins, yikes, you've got a real problem. if she beats you've got a real problem. if she beats you've got a real problem. if she beats a cogent um non-farright candidate who's a cogent um non-farright candidate who's a cogent um non-farright candidate who's just listen this is uh what would have just listen this is uh what would have just listen this is uh what would have been a mainstream Democratic position been a mainstream Democratic position been a mainstream Democratic position back in the '90s. Uh if she beats that, back in the '90s. Uh if she beats that, back in the '90s. Uh if she beats that, we got problems, man. We got real we got problems, man. We got real we got problems, man. We got real problems. Um, speaking of your favorite problems. Um, speaking of your favorite problems. Um, speaking of your favorite political party, the DSA, um, Michigan political party, the DSA, um, Michigan political party, the DSA, um, Michigan Senate candidate, um, Elsa has said that Senate candidate, um, Elsa has said that Senate candidate, um, Elsa has said that middle class prices will middle class middle class prices will middle class middle class prices will middle class taxes will rise in order to taxes will rise in order to taxes will rise in order to enact all of his, um, healthcare enact all of his, um, healthcare enact all of his, um, healthcare programs. programs. programs. >> Okay, one, thank you for setting me up >> Okay, one, thank you for setting me up >> Okay, one, thank you for setting me up like that because uh, boys and girls, like that because uh, boys and girls, like that because uh, boys and girls, you've just been propagandized by the you've just been propagandized by the you've just been propagandized by the Tom Dilly Show. That's going to get Tom Dilly Show. That's going to get Tom Dilly Show. That's going to get clipped. Uh, okay. So, the truth is that clipped. Uh, okay. So, the truth is that clipped. Uh, okay. So, the truth is that Elsa is not a member of the DSA. He has Elsa is not a member of the DSA. He has Elsa is not a member of the DSA. He has been very careful to distance himself been very careful to distance himself been very careful to distance himself from it, but all of his talking points from it, but all of his talking points from it, but all of his talking points are identical. Uh, so he is to me are identical. Uh, so he is to me are identical. Uh, so he is to me spouting the same stuff, but he is spouting the same stuff, but he is spouting the same stuff, but he is officially not a member of the DSA. Just officially not a member of the DSA. Just officially not a member of the DSA. Just to be clear, DSA called him a longtime to be clear, DSA called him a longtime to be clear, DSA called him a longtime ally. Uh, and then also, if you listen ally. Uh, and then also, if you listen ally. Uh, and then also, if you listen to the clip, which we will do, he isn't to the clip, which we will do, he isn't to the clip, which we will do, he isn't saying exactly that. He's saying that saying exactly that. He's saying that saying exactly that. He's saying that basically your taxes are going to basically your taxes are going to basically your taxes are going to replace uh the way that you pay for replace uh the way that you pay for replace uh the way that you pay for healthcare. though he never admits that healthcare. though he never admits that healthcare. though he never admits that taxes are going to go up. It is true. Um taxes are going to go up. It is true. Um taxes are going to go up. It is true. Um but just in trying to absolutely but just in trying to absolutely but just in trying to absolutely minimize the amount that I propagandize minimize the amount that I propagandize minimize the amount that I propagandize people, that that is the reality. But people, that that is the reality. But people, that that is the reality. But let's play the clip and then we're going let's play the clip and then we're going let's play the clip and then we're going to talk about why um I think this guy is to talk about why um I think this guy is to talk about why um I think this guy is deeply troubling. deeply troubling. deeply troubling. >> Make Medicare free and universal if you >> Make Medicare free and universal if you >> Make Medicare free and universal if you increase taxes. So if you are elected increase taxes. So if you are elected increase taxes. So if you are elected and make this push, would you need to and make this push, would you need to and make this push, would you need to increase taxes? increase taxes? increase taxes? As I've said across uh this campaign, I As I've said across uh this campaign, I As I've said across uh this campaign, I am for taxing billionaires their wealth. am for taxing billionaires their wealth. am for taxing billionaires their wealth. >> What about people who make less than a >> What about people who make less than a >> What about people who make less than a billion less than a million dollars billion less than a million dollars billion less than a million dollars though, Dr. Alsad? What about people though, Dr. Alsad? What about people though, Dr. Alsad? What about people making less than a million dollars? making less than a million dollars? making less than a million dollars? >> So for the average person and you look >> So for the average person and you look >> So for the average person and you look at your W2, if you're a if you're an at your W2, if you're a if you're an at your W2, if you're a if you're an employee who gets paid every two weeks employee who gets paid every two weeks employee who gets paid every two weeks or four weeks after you pay your taxes, or four weeks after you pay your taxes, or four weeks after you pay your taxes, the next biggest check that comes off the next biggest check that comes off the next biggest check that comes off the top of your uh your your payub is to the top of your uh your your payub is to the top of your uh your your payub is to your health insurance company. So your health insurance company. So your health insurance company. So imagine instead of paying that to your imagine instead of paying that to your imagine instead of paying that to your health insurance company whose CEO makes health insurance company whose CEO makes health insurance company whose CEO makes $20 million a year, instead you you paid $20 million a year, instead you you paid $20 million a year, instead you you paid a little bit more in taxes for healthare a little bit more in taxes for healthare a little bit more in taxes for healthare that you wouldn't lose if you lost your that you wouldn't lose if you lost your that you wouldn't lose if you lost your job or turned 26 or got married or got job or turned 26 or got married or got job or turned 26 or got married or got divorced. I think all of us would be a divorced. I think all of us would be a divorced. I think all of us would be a lot more interested in that kind of a lot more interested in that kind of a lot more interested in that kind of a system if we knew that our health care system if we knew that our health care system if we knew that our health care would be free at the point of care and would be free at the point of care and would be free at the point of care and would be free uh without having to worry would be free uh without having to worry would be free uh without having to worry about losing it uh in general. So, about losing it uh in general. So, about losing it uh in general. So, there's an opportunity here, I think, to there's an opportunity here, I think, to there's an opportunity here, I think, to trade what we give to a big corporation trade what we give to a big corporation trade what we give to a big corporation who gets to decide who we get to see and who gets to decide who we get to see and who gets to decide who we get to see and who we don't for a little bit more uh who we don't for a little bit more uh who we don't for a little bit more uh paid into FICA. And I I think that's a paid into FICA. And I I think that's a paid into FICA. And I I think that's a trade that's worth making. I think the trade that's worth making. I think the trade that's worth making. I think the broader public understands that that's a broader public understands that that's a broader public understands that that's a trade worth making considering how many trade worth making considering how many trade worth making considering how many people are holding medical debt. A third people are holding medical debt. A third people are holding medical debt. A third of all Michigan households uh right now. of all Michigan households uh right now. of all Michigan households uh right now. >> Just to be very clear, you're describing >> Just to be very clear, you're describing >> Just to be very clear, you're describing this trade-off. You are effectively this trade-off. You are effectively this trade-off. You are effectively acknowledging that people making less acknowledging that people making less acknowledging that people making less than a million dollars could see their than a million dollars could see their than a million dollars could see their taxes go up. I just want to be very taxes go up. I just want to be very taxes go up. I just want to be very clear. Is that a yes? clear. Is that a yes? clear. Is that a yes? >> I'm saying that we'd be paying for >> I'm saying that we'd be paying for >> I'm saying that we'd be paying for healthcare in a different way. Uh healthcare in a different way. Uh healthcare in a different way. Uh instead of uh paying a health insurance instead of uh paying a health insurance instead of uh paying a health insurance company whose CEO makes $20 million, I company whose CEO makes $20 million, I company whose CEO makes $20 million, I would much rather pay for durable would much rather pay for durable would much rather pay for durable healthare into a government, which of healthare into a government, which of healthare into a government, which of course uh we all know provides health course uh we all know provides health course uh we all know provides health care uh for seniors who need healthcare care uh for seniors who need healthcare care uh for seniors who need healthcare the most. So if I'm trading paying a CEO the most. So if I'm trading paying a CEO the most. So if I'm trading paying a CEO to make more money or paying uh to make more money or paying uh to make more money or paying uh government to guarantee me healthcare, government to guarantee me healthcare, government to guarantee me healthcare, >> okay, so uh this is where this stuff >> okay, so uh this is where this stuff >> okay, so uh this is where this stuff gets high risk. This guy is very good at gets high risk. This guy is very good at gets high risk. This guy is very good at talking points. He's very good at talking points. He's very good at talking points. He's very good at avoiding questions as so many avoiding questions as so many avoiding questions as so many politicians are on both sides of the politicians are on both sides of the politicians are on both sides of the aisle. It is something I despise aisle. It is something I despise aisle. It is something I despise regardless of political affiliation. Um regardless of political affiliation. Um regardless of political affiliation. Um but Elsa is is very good at this. And but Elsa is is very good at this. And but Elsa is is very good at this. And what he doesn't say, so he had an what he doesn't say, so he had an what he doesn't say, so he had an opportunity to say, "Listen, this isn't opportunity to say, "Listen, this isn't opportunity to say, "Listen, this isn't going to cost you more money. In fact, going to cost you more money. In fact, going to cost you more money. In fact, this is going to be something that is this is going to be something that is this is going to be something that is picked up by the billionaires. They're picked up by the billionaires. They're picked up by the billionaires. They're going to cover all of this." And the going to cover all of this." And the going to cover all of this." And the reason that he doesn't do it, knowing reason that he doesn't do it, knowing reason that he doesn't do it, knowing how good he is, is because he knows that how good he is, is because he knows that how good he is, is because he knows that that isn't true. And he knows at the end that isn't true. And he knows at the end that isn't true. And he knows at the end of the day that if you want to create of the day that if you want to create of the day that if you want to create the kind of uh the kind of uh the kind of uh social democracy, it's always so hard to social democracy, it's always so hard to social democracy, it's always so hard to separate the DSA from what's going on in separate the DSA from what's going on in separate the DSA from what's going on in the Nordic countries. If you want social the Nordic countries. If you want social the Nordic countries. If you want social democracy, which the DSA tries to democracy, which the DSA tries to democracy, which the DSA tries to confuse you and get you to think that confuse you and get you to think that confuse you and get you to think that they are one and the same, they are they are one and the same, they are they are one and the same, they are aggressively not the same. But if you aggressively not the same. But if you aggressively not the same. But if you want social democracy, want social democracy, want social democracy, you can absolutely have it, but it you can absolutely have it, but it you can absolutely have it, but it requires you to have an absolutely requires you to have an absolutely requires you to have an absolutely massive broad tax base. So people think massive broad tax base. So people think massive broad tax base. So people think that billionaires could pick up the tab. that billionaires could pick up the tab. that billionaires could pick up the tab. they just refuse to do so. Even if you they just refuse to do so. Even if you they just refuse to do so. Even if you tax them at 100%, you're not going to tax them at 100%, you're not going to tax them at 100%, you're not going to get even if you tax their wealth at get even if you tax their wealth at get even if you tax their wealth at 100%, which would be destructive in the 100%, which would be destructive in the 100%, which would be destructive in the economy in ways that would be absolutely economy in ways that would be absolutely economy in ways that would be absolutely impossible to comprehend. It would be uh impossible to comprehend. It would be uh impossible to comprehend. It would be uh an economic meteorite the size that an economic meteorite the size that an economic meteorite the size that killed the dinosaurs. Okay? It would it killed the dinosaurs. Okay? It would it killed the dinosaurs. Okay? It would it would it would destroy your economy. would it would destroy your economy. would it would destroy your economy. Okay? So, nobody's putting that forward. Okay? So, nobody's putting that forward. Okay? So, nobody's putting that forward. Even though the one that they're putting Even though the one that they're putting Even though the one that they're putting forward will be very destructive, more forward will be very destructive, more forward will be very destructive, more slow, but it will be very disruptive uh slow, but it will be very disruptive uh slow, but it will be very disruptive uh destructive. But the reason he doesn't destructive. But the reason he doesn't destructive. But the reason he doesn't take that opportunity is he understands take that opportunity is he understands take that opportunity is he understands that what this is going to be is a that what this is going to be is a that what this is going to be is a broad-based tax that applies to broad-based tax that applies to broad-based tax that applies to everybody out of necessity. It's going everybody out of necessity. It's going everybody out of necessity. It's going to be the only way to pay for it. Now, to be the only way to pay for it. Now, to be the only way to pay for it. Now, also very important things to understand also very important things to understand also very important things to understand um is that right now American firms um is that right now American firms um is that right now American firms account for 55% of global global account for 55% of global global account for 55% of global global pharmaceutical R&D. So pharmaceutical R&D. So pharmaceutical R&D. So when you look at the American um system, when you look at the American um system, when you look at the American um system, we have to acknowledge that part of the we have to acknowledge that part of the we have to acknowledge that part of the reason that the American system is the reason that the American system is the reason that the American system is the way that it is right now is we are the way that it is right now is we are the way that it is right now is we are the only place in the world where innovation only place in the world where innovation only place in the world where innovation is happening. It's not like there are is happening. It's not like there are is happening. It's not like there are these deep R&D pipelines the world over. these deep R&D pipelines the world over. these deep R&D pipelines the world over. The rest of the world has the systems The rest of the world has the systems The rest of the world has the systems they have because America has the system they have because America has the system they have because America has the system it has, meaning it has more free it has, meaning it has more free it has, meaning it has more free markets. Our system is an absolute mess. markets. Our system is an absolute mess. markets. Our system is an absolute mess. This is not me um going to bat for our This is not me um going to bat for our This is not me um going to bat for our system. The reason that corporations pay system. The reason that corporations pay system. The reason that corporations pay for it instead of the government goes for it instead of the government goes for it instead of the government goes back to something in the 1940s uh a tax back to something in the 1940s uh a tax back to something in the 1940s uh a tax policy that was put forward. Anyway, set policy that was put forward. Anyway, set policy that was put forward. Anyway, set that aside. What you have to contend that aside. What you have to contend that aside. What you have to contend with is right now people all over the with is right now people all over the with is right now people all over the world will come to America to get like world will come to America to get like world will come to America to get like the highest quality uh care that they the highest quality uh care that they the highest quality uh care that they can get. They all get our can get. They all get our can get. They all get our pharmaceuticals. they all get the pharmaceuticals. they all get the pharmaceuticals. they all get the innovations that we do in medical innovations that we do in medical innovations that we do in medical devices um shipped to them because the devices um shipped to them because the devices um shipped to them because the industry that we have actually uses some industry that we have actually uses some industry that we have actually uses some although wildly bastardized free market although wildly bastardized free market although wildly bastardized free market systems. If we still want there to be systems. If we still want there to be systems. If we still want there to be innovation in healthcare either the innovation in healthcare either the innovation in healthcare either the entire world is going to have to realize entire world is going to have to realize entire world is going to have to realize that they've been riding on our that they've been riding on our that they've been riding on our coattails and start sharing in the coattails and start sharing in the coattails and start sharing in the burden of innovation or the US is going burden of innovation or the US is going burden of innovation or the US is going to have to decide okay the thing that we to have to decide okay the thing that we to have to decide okay the thing that we want to pay for is healthcare. That's want to pay for is healthcare. That's want to pay for is healthcare. That's going to be the thing that we make this going to be the thing that we make this going to be the thing that we make this trade-off for. We're going to go trade-off for. We're going to go trade-off for. We're going to go broad-based, but we still have to find a broad-based, but we still have to find a broad-based, but we still have to find a way to make sure that there's enough way to make sure that there's enough way to make sure that there's enough free market incentives. And if you want free market incentives. And if you want free market incentives. And if you want to go with a full China model, great. to go with a full China model, great. to go with a full China model, great. And you say, "Listen, healthcare is the And you say, "Listen, healthcare is the And you say, "Listen, healthcare is the thing that we're going to put federal thing that we're going to put federal thing that we're going to put federal dollars behind. We're going to make sure dollars behind. We're going to make sure dollars behind. We're going to make sure that the infrastructure is there. We're that the infrastructure is there. We're that the infrastructure is there. We're going to make sure that we pick up the going to make sure that we pick up the going to make sure that we pick up the tab as taxpayers for anything that there tab as taxpayers for anything that there tab as taxpayers for anything that there isn't free market incentives to build, isn't free market incentives to build, isn't free market incentives to build, but we are then going to make these but we are then going to make these but we are then going to make these companies compete with each other. And companies compete with each other. And companies compete with each other. And so they are all going to compete to so they are all going to compete to so they are all going to compete to provide the best cheapest service to provide the best cheapest service to provide the best cheapest service to this government-run healthcare thing. this government-run healthcare thing. this government-run healthcare thing. Okay, that is like if you the Chinese Okay, that is like if you the Chinese Okay, that is like if you the Chinese system does some things very brilliantly system does some things very brilliantly system does some things very brilliantly and this would be one of them. So if you and this would be one of them. So if you and this would be one of them. So if you want to adopt something like that and want to adopt something like that and want to adopt something like that and force these free market competitions force these free market competitions force these free market competitions within a protected industry, great. But within a protected industry, great. But within a protected industry, great. But that's not what we're talking about. that's not what we're talking about. that's not what we're talking about. What we're talking about right now is What we're talking about right now is What we're talking about right now is these guys are making out like there's these guys are making out like there's these guys are making out like there's some fairy tale land where you just tax some fairy tale land where you just tax some fairy tale land where you just tax billionaires more and suddenly you get billionaires more and suddenly you get billionaires more and suddenly you get this amazing system that PS does not this amazing system that PS does not this amazing system that PS does not exist anywhere else in the world because exist anywhere else in the world because exist anywhere else in the world because it's all downstream of American it's all downstream of American it's all downstream of American innovation. And so this is once again us innovation. And so this is once again us innovation. And so this is once again us not being honest about what's really not being honest about what's really not being honest about what's really going on. So we've got to say we can going on. So we've got to say we can going on. So we've got to say we can have anything we want but not everything have anything we want but not everything have anything we want but not everything we want. And we have to start putting we want. And we have to start putting we want. And we have to start putting the mile markers in of what is it the mile markers in of what is it the mile markers in of what is it exactly that we want. So he talks about exactly that we want. So he talks about exactly that we want. So he talks about the buzzword is free at the point of the buzzword is free at the point of the buzzword is free at the point of care. Now he's careful to say that care. Now he's careful to say that care. Now he's careful to say that because you're going to pay for it in a because you're going to pay for it in a because you're going to pay for it in a thousand other ways. You're going to pay thousand other ways. You're going to pay thousand other ways. You're going to pay for it with something like a VAT tax. for it with something like a VAT tax. for it with something like a VAT tax. You're going to pay for it with You're going to pay for it with You're going to pay for it with increased income tax. You're going to increased income tax. You're going to increased income tax. You're going to pay for it by trying to get more uh by pay for it by trying to get more uh by pay for it by trying to get more uh by taxing billionaire wealth. That's a taxing billionaire wealth. That's a taxing billionaire wealth. That's a whole separate fractal I'm not going to whole separate fractal I'm not going to whole separate fractal I'm not going to go into now, but will not be as go into now, but will not be as go into now, but will not be as lucrative as people think it is. lucrative as people think it is. lucrative as people think it is. >> Fractal. >> Fractal. >> Fractal. >> Thank you. So that is where um we if >> Thank you. So that is where um we if >> Thank you. So that is where um we if we're going to have the conversation, we we're going to have the conversation, we we're going to have the conversation, we have to have the real conversation. have to have the real conversation. have to have the real conversation. These are talking points. This is part These are talking points. This is part These are talking points. This is part of what is pushing us more and more to of what is pushing us more and more to of what is pushing us more and more to the left is it is easy to sell something the left is it is easy to sell something the left is it is easy to sell something that isn't real uh but sounds awesome that isn't real uh but sounds awesome that isn't real uh but sounds awesome than it is to actually back it up with than it is to actually back it up with than it is to actually back it up with policy. policy. policy. >> Let's let's go point by point because I >> Let's let's go point by point because I >> Let's let's go point by point because I think we need to like kill this animal think we need to like kill this animal think we need to like kill this animal and like put it to bed once and for all. and like put it to bed once and for all. and like put it to bed once and for all. >> What's this animal? >> What's this animal? >> What's this animal? >> The health insurance like conversation >> The health insurance like conversation >> The health insurance like conversation cuz I do think on one side you have a cuz I do think on one side you have a cuz I do think on one side you have a point that American pharmaceuticals are point that American pharmaceuticals are point that American pharmaceuticals are the most innovative. Um we currently the most innovative. Um we currently the most innovative. Um we currently don't subsidi subsidize that at all don't subsidi subsidize that at all don't subsidi subsidize that at all unless it's for old people cuz Medicare unless it's for old people cuz Medicare unless it's for old people cuz Medicare there is a discounted pharmaceutical there is a discounted pharmaceutical there is a discounted pharmaceutical program. We subsidize the life out of program. We subsidize the life out of program. We subsidize the life out of it. What are you talking about? it. What are you talking about? it. What are you talking about? >> Our federal tax dollars don't go to >> Our federal tax dollars don't go to >> Our federal tax dollars don't go to pharmaceutical companies directly. They pharmaceutical companies directly. They pharmaceutical companies directly. They go through through Medicare. go through through Medicare. go through through Medicare. >> True. But the way that we So, right now, >> True. But the way that we So, right now, >> True. But the way that we So, right now, the big problem that we have in the way the big problem that we have in the way the big problem that we have in the way that our healthcare works is the that our healthcare works is the that our healthcare works is the government is paying for um Medicare for government is paying for um Medicare for government is paying for um Medicare for sure. You've got more people going into sure. You've got more people going into sure. You've got more people going into that every day. Uh you've got Medicaid, that every day. Uh you've got Medicaid, that every day. Uh you've got Medicaid, you've got basically forced health you've got basically forced health you've got basically forced health insurance compliance and uh with insurance compliance and uh with insurance compliance and uh with Obamacare and it creates Obamacare and it creates Obamacare and it creates >> different those are three different >> different those are three different >> different those are three different levels. Yes. That are all causing levels. Yes. That are all causing levels. Yes. That are all causing distortions in the marketplace. Yeah. distortions in the marketplace. Yeah. distortions in the marketplace. Yeah. Because what ends up happening is um we Because what ends up happening is um we Because what ends up happening is um we have created a system where have created a system where have created a system where >> the hospitals knowingly charge you more >> the hospitals knowingly charge you more >> the hospitals knowingly charge you more money if you have insurance than they do money if you have insurance than they do money if you have insurance than they do if you don't have insurance. So they're if you don't have insurance. So they're if you don't have insurance. So they're creating a system where it's like, well, creating a system where it's like, well, creating a system where it's like, well, we're going to take care of people. we're going to take care of people. we're going to take care of people. We're going to try to wipe out as much We're going to try to wipe out as much We're going to try to wipe out as much of their debt as we can by just reducing of their debt as we can by just reducing of their debt as we can by just reducing the cost of this thing. So, you've got the cost of this thing. So, you've got the cost of this thing. So, you've got two-tier pricing, insurance, no two-tier pricing, insurance, no two-tier pricing, insurance, no insurance, which is already insane and insurance, which is already insane and insurance, which is already insane and honestly should be illegal, but you've honestly should be illegal, but you've honestly should be illegal, but you've got that and then you've got them got that and then you've got them got that and then you've got them knowing because of the way that the knowing because of the way that the knowing because of the way that the system works, people are going to have system works, people are going to have system works, people are going to have to have health insurance. So, it creates to have health insurance. So, it creates to have health insurance. So, it creates then this burden on um then this burden on um then this burden on um >> I mean, you're you're going to pick up >> I mean, you're you're going to pick up >> I mean, you're you're going to pick up the tab somewhere. Remember, you you the tab somewhere. Remember, you you the tab somewhere. Remember, you you can't remove the cost of something. You can't remove the cost of something. You can't remove the cost of something. You can only shift it. So, we've shifted it can only shift it. So, we've shifted it can only shift it. So, we've shifted it to companies. So, now you've got to companies. So, now you've got to companies. So, now you've got companies, they're forced to pay into companies, they're forced to pay into companies, they're forced to pay into it. employees are forced to pay into it it. employees are forced to pay into it it. employees are forced to pay into it and the hospitals and uh care providers and the hospitals and uh care providers and the hospitals and uh care providers know that you're going to have know that you're going to have know that you're going to have insurance. So, they're going to rake insurance. So, they're going to rake insurance. So, they're going to rake those rates up as high as they can, those rates up as high as they can, those rates up as high as they can, basically artificially inflating those basically artificially inflating those basically artificially inflating those numbers because they know that they're numbers because they know that they're numbers because they know that they're going to be paid no matter what. going to be paid no matter what. going to be paid no matter what. >> If you had a system where they only know >> If you had a system where they only know >> If you had a system where they only know they're going to get paid for services they're going to get paid for services they're going to get paid for services that people actually agree are worth the that people actually agree are worth the that people actually agree are worth the money, now all of a sudden people start money, now all of a sudden people start money, now all of a sudden people start going, "Well, I want to win the race to going, "Well, I want to win the race to going, "Well, I want to win the race to make the best band-aid at the lowest make the best band-aid at the lowest make the best band-aid at the lowest cost." forget like CT scanners and cost." forget like CT scanners and cost." forget like CT scanners and like that, emergency care, cancer, all like that, emergency care, cancer, all like that, emergency care, cancer, all that. Like, set the life-threatening that. Like, set the life-threatening that. Like, set the life-threatening stuff aside. stuff aside. stuff aside. >> I agree that we have to we don't want >> I agree that we have to we don't want >> I agree that we have to we don't want people getting crushed under medical people getting crushed under medical people getting crushed under medical debt. Okay, we're going to set that debt. Okay, we're going to set that debt. Okay, we're going to set that aside for a second. Just look at the aside for a second. Just look at the aside for a second. Just look at the perverse incentives when you know that perverse incentives when you know that perverse incentives when you know that bill is going to be picked up. bill is going to be picked up. bill is going to be picked up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now, there's no price signal. So, there >> Now, there's no price signal. So, there >> Now, there's no price signal. So, there was a guy named Ludwig von Ms. Some was a guy named Ludwig von Ms. Some was a guy named Ludwig von Ms. Some people pronounce it Mises, whatever. uh people pronounce it Mises, whatever. uh people pronounce it Mises, whatever. uh famous I believe he was an Austrian famous I believe he was an Austrian famous I believe he was an Austrian economist part of the Austrian school of economist part of the Austrian school of economist part of the Austrian school of economics and he wrote this paper that economics and he wrote this paper that economics and he wrote this paper that ended up explaining why communism ended up explaining why communism ended up explaining why communism doesn't fail why communism doesn't work doesn't fail why communism doesn't work doesn't fail why communism doesn't work why it always fails and the answer was why it always fails and the answer was why it always fails and the answer was you lose the price signal the price you lose the price signal the price you lose the price signal the price signal tells you where you have to put signal tells you where you have to put signal tells you where you have to put energy to make something better price energy to make something better price energy to make something better price signal tells you where something doesn't signal tells you where something doesn't signal tells you where something doesn't matter and so now people will look at matter and so now people will look at matter and so now people will look at their hospital bills and they'll be a their hospital bills and they'll be a their hospital bills and they'll be a gas because it'll be like I paid $32 for gas because it'll be like I paid $32 for gas because it'll be like I paid $32 for a band-aid and you're like what like in a band-aid and you're like what like in a band-aid and you're like what like in what universe is a band-aid which I what universe is a band-aid which I what universe is a band-aid which I could go to CVS and I can get a hundred could go to CVS and I can get a hundred could go to CVS and I can get a hundred band-aids for, you know, $12. It's like band-aids for, you know, $12. It's like band-aids for, you know, $12. It's like just patently absurd. just patently absurd. just patently absurd. >> And so they do that because they know >> And so they do that because they know >> And so they do that because they know they have a guaranteed payer because of they have a guaranteed payer because of they have a guaranteed payer because of the way that our system is. And so the way that our system is. And so the way that our system is. And so unfortunately getting Obamacare and unfortunately getting Obamacare and unfortunately getting Obamacare and saying you have to have insurance now saying you have to have insurance now saying you have to have insurance now creates a situation where less people creates a situation where less people creates a situation where less people are uncovered, which is directionally are uncovered, which is directionally are uncovered, which is directionally good, but now where it's like, well, we good, but now where it's like, well, we good, but now where it's like, well, we can just throw these costs up. And so can just throw these costs up. And so can just throw these costs up. And so those costs go into the employer. Then those costs go into the employer. Then those costs go into the employer. Then the employer goes, "Well, I've got to the employer goes, "Well, I've got to the employer goes, "Well, I've got to charge more for my goods because my charge more for my goods because my charge more for my goods because my costs go up." Also gives them an costs go up." Also gives them an costs go up." Also gives them an incentive to go find cheap labor incentive to go find cheap labor incentive to go find cheap labor elsewhere because they've got to make up elsewhere because they've got to make up elsewhere because they've got to make up for the extra money that they're paying for the extra money that they're paying for the extra money that they're paying for in healthcare. And so it just like for in healthcare. And so it just like for in healthcare. And so it just like becomes this snowball of like it becomes this snowball of like it becomes this snowball of like it companies are going to get a certain companies are going to get a certain companies are going to get a certain profit margin. profit margin. profit margin. >> They're going to try they're going to >> They're going to try they're going to >> They're going to try they're going to try for that profit margin because 94% try for that profit margin because 94% try for that profit margin because 94% of all businesses fail to make $10 of all businesses fail to make $10 of all businesses fail to make $10 million in revenue. So going into million in revenue. So going into million in revenue. So going into business is essentially an admission business is essentially an admission business is essentially an admission that I'm going to work really hard to go that I'm going to work really hard to go that I'm going to work really hard to go broke. And once you understand that's broke. And once you understand that's broke. And once you understand that's the truth of being an entrepreneur, you the truth of being an entrepreneur, you the truth of being an entrepreneur, you suddenly realize, okay, this the reason suddenly realize, okay, this the reason suddenly realize, okay, this the reason they started doing this was to offer it they started doing this was to offer it they started doing this was to offer it as a perk to try to get employees. And as a perk to try to get employees. And as a perk to try to get employees. And then it became a mandate that they have then it became a mandate that they have then it became a mandate that they have to do it. So now it's no longer well I to do it. So now it's no longer well I to do it. So now it's no longer well I offered this extra thing to try to get offered this extra thing to try to get offered this extra thing to try to get people. And it became that's just where people. And it became that's just where people. And it became that's just where we do it and now everybody has to have we do it and now everybody has to have we do it and now everybody has to have it and employers have to offer it and it and employers have to offer it and it and employers have to offer it and it's getting more expensive because of it's getting more expensive because of it's getting more expensive because of the things that I just said. And so it the things that I just said. And so it the things that I just said. And so it devolves into like this incredibly devolves into like this incredibly devolves into like this incredibly insane thing because as Ludwig von insane thing because as Ludwig von insane thing because as Ludwig von Misses tried to tell us, you absolutely Misses tried to tell us, you absolutely Misses tried to tell us, you absolutely cannot get rid of the price signal. The cannot get rid of the price signal. The cannot get rid of the price signal. The price signal has to be a legitimate price signal has to be a legitimate price signal has to be a legitimate thing born of the market where people thing born of the market where people thing born of the market where people go, I'm not going to pay $32 go, I'm not going to pay $32 go, I'm not going to pay $32 dollars for a band-aid. I'm going to dollars for a band-aid. I'm going to dollars for a band-aid. I'm going to send my wife out to get some and bring send my wife out to get some and bring send my wife out to get some and bring them in and I'll put it on. But them in and I'll put it on. But them in and I'll put it on. But they make all of that impossible. All of they make all of that impossible. All of they make all of that impossible. All of that disappears. And if I'm a band-aid that disappears. And if I'm a band-aid that disappears. And if I'm a band-aid maker, I don't go, "Oh, I want to make maker, I don't go, "Oh, I want to make maker, I don't go, "Oh, I want to make my band-aids as cheap as possible." I my band-aids as cheap as possible." I my band-aids as cheap as possible." I become a gigantic conglomeration. and I become a gigantic conglomeration. and I become a gigantic conglomeration. and I buy up all the other band-aid companies buy up all the other band-aid companies buy up all the other band-aid companies and now it's J&J as far as the I can and now it's J&J as far as the I can and now it's J&J as far as the I can see. I charge whatever the I want see. I charge whatever the I want see. I charge whatever the I want and I know that this is going to be paid and I know that this is going to be paid and I know that this is going to be paid for because everybody's forced to have for because everybody's forced to have for because everybody's forced to have insurance. And so it's it is the um I'm insurance. And so it's it is the um I'm insurance. And so it's it is the um I'm going to use a fancy word. It is the going to use a fancy word. It is the going to use a fancy word. It is the pertabbations that that setup enters pertabbations that that setup enters pertabbations that that setup enters into the pricing that creates the into the pricing that creates the into the pricing that creates the madness that we see. And then we get mad madness that we see. And then we get mad madness that we see. And then we get mad and we go well this is just greedy and we go well this is just greedy and we go well this is just greedy corporations. It's like hell corporations. It's like hell corporations. It's like hell this is not that. Like identify the this is not that. Like identify the this is not that. Like identify the problem. You've done a good job of that. problem. You've done a good job of that. problem. You've done a good job of that. Healthcare is too expensive. People are Healthcare is too expensive. People are Healthcare is too expensive. People are getting crushed under the debt. getting crushed under the debt. getting crushed under the debt. >> There are monopolies. There are people >> There are monopolies. There are people >> There are monopolies. There are people who are price gouging. There are who are price gouging. There are who are price gouging. There are hospitals that aren't transparent with hospitals that aren't transparent with hospitals that aren't transparent with their pricing. So we all that's on the their pricing. So we all that's on the their pricing. So we all that's on the table. Yes. table. Yes. table. Yes. >> And so now solve those problems. Solve >> And so now solve those problems. Solve >> And so now solve those problems. Solve those problems and a lot of this will go those problems and a lot of this will go those problems and a lot of this will go away. But if you pretend that all you away. But if you pretend that all you away. But if you pretend that all you have to do is create a single payer in have to do is create a single payer in have to do is create a single payer in the government and this goes away the government and this goes away the government and this goes away >> that that is acting as if we are not >> that that is acting as if we are not >> that that is acting as if we are not nested in a system that is in because nested in a system that is in because nested in a system that is in because we're looking at the Nordic countries we're looking at the Nordic countries we're looking at the Nordic countries just as an example. We're saying but just as an example. We're saying but just as an example. We're saying but look they do it. look they do it. look they do it. >> They do it because of what we do. And so >> They do it because of what we do. And so >> They do it because of what we do. And so it's like, okay, we can take the it's like, okay, we can take the it's like, okay, we can take the trade-off of there's no more innovation. trade-off of there's no more innovation. trade-off of there's no more innovation. Certainly not at the level that there Certainly not at the level that there Certainly not at the level that there was before and do that. Or we can say, was before and do that. Or we can say, was before and do that. Or we can say, no, no, no, innovation is what we're no, no, no, innovation is what we're no, no, no, innovation is what we're going to point our tax dollars at, and going to point our tax dollars at, and going to point our tax dollars at, and we're going to make sure that we're we're going to make sure that we're we're going to make sure that we're driving the cost driving the cost driving the cost >> innovation in the healthcare market >> innovation in the healthcare market >> innovation in the healthcare market because I don't think because I don't think because I don't think >> in medical supplies, >> in medical supplies, >> in medical supplies, >> there's other there's there's literally >> there's other there's there's literally >> there's other there's there's literally medical tourism. People go to other medical tourism. People go to other medical tourism. People go to other countries now to get procedures because countries now to get procedures because countries now to get procedures because it's cheaper and more cost effective it's cheaper and more cost effective it's cheaper and more cost effective than to do it in the US. But the US is than to do it in the US. But the US is than to do it in the US. But the US is no longer no longer no longer >> This is where I would have to really do >> This is where I would have to really do >> This is where I would have to really do a deep dive and so I don't want to be a deep dive and so I don't want to be a deep dive and so I don't want to be flippant. Um, but if you look at like so flippant. Um, but if you look at like so flippant. Um, but if you look at like so because I'm married to a Brit, I I am because I'm married to a Brit, I I am because I'm married to a Brit, I I am intimately familiar with how their intimately familiar with how their intimately familiar with how their system works. And so all of them, not system works. And so all of them, not system works. And so all of them, not all of them, anyone who can afford it all of them, anyone who can afford it all of them, anyone who can afford it has two kinds of um insurance. They do has two kinds of um insurance. They do has two kinds of um insurance. They do the NHS, which they pay into is not the NHS, which they pay into is not the NHS, which they pay into is not free. They are taxed to death for it. free. They are taxed to death for it. free. They are taxed to death for it. Yep. Yep. Yep. >> So they are forced to pay into the NHS >> So they are forced to pay into the NHS >> So they are forced to pay into the NHS and then if they can afford it, they and then if they can afford it, they and then if they can afford it, they also carry private insurance. So you also carry private insurance. So you also carry private insurance. So you should just assume the same thing will should just assume the same thing will should just assume the same thing will happen here. Now, if you're a smart happen here. Now, if you're a smart happen here. Now, if you're a smart shopper, you go, "Okay, I want to get shopper, you go, "Okay, I want to get shopper, you go, "Okay, I want to get this procedure done. Am I better off this procedure done. Am I better off this procedure done. Am I better off going to Turkey to get my hair plugs? Do going to Turkey to get my hair plugs? Do going to Turkey to get my hair plugs? Do I go to Mexico for my lasic? Like, and I go to Mexico for my lasic? Like, and I go to Mexico for my lasic? Like, and you figure out who's like got the best you figure out who's like got the best you figure out who's like got the best whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Uh the ones that are like really >> Uh the ones that are like really >> Uh the ones that are like really high-end tend to be you come to America high-end tend to be you come to America high-end tend to be you come to America for the like the best of the best. If for the like the best of the best. If for the like the best of the best. If you're like, I really got to survive you're like, I really got to survive you're like, I really got to survive this or I'm an NBA athlete, it's like this or I'm an NBA athlete, it's like this or I'm an NBA athlete, it's like you're going to odds are come here. you're going to odds are come here. you're going to odds are come here. Unless we've made it illegal. like we've Unless we've made it illegal. like we've Unless we've made it illegal. like we've pushed things like stem cells off to pushed things like stem cells off to pushed things like stem cells off to other places, but because we've made it other places, but because we've made it other places, but because we've made it illegal, but if it isn't illegal here, illegal, but if it isn't illegal here, illegal, but if it isn't illegal here, you're going to find again, I haven't you're going to find again, I haven't you're going to find again, I haven't gone deep enough. I may myself be gone deep enough. I may myself be gone deep enough. I may myself be surprised. Oh, it's not as much as I surprised. Oh, it's not as much as I surprised. Oh, it's not as much as I thought. thought. thought. >> But, uh, looking at this stuff there, >> But, uh, looking at this stuff there, >> But, uh, looking at this stuff there, there is a lot that people come to there is a lot that people come to there is a lot that people come to America for. America for. America for. >> Um, okay. So, let let's break it down >> Um, okay. So, let let's break it down >> Um, okay. So, let let's break it down because I I get the the rundown. I'm because I I get the the rundown. I'm because I I get the the rundown. I'm looking at it from a lot of people look looking at it from a lot of people look looking at it from a lot of people look at their W2 paycheck breakdown. Right at their W2 paycheck breakdown. Right at their W2 paycheck breakdown. Right now, we all pay into Medicare. We all now, we all pay into Medicare. We all now, we all pay into Medicare. We all pay into Medicaid, whether we're 65 or pay into Medicaid, whether we're 65 or pay into Medicaid, whether we're 65 or whether we're not. So, if you're 17, you whether we're not. So, if you're 17, you whether we're not. So, if you're 17, you get your first check, you throw into get your first check, you throw into get your first check, you throw into that pool. that pool. that pool. >> I think that's the part that is the >> I think that's the part that is the >> I think that's the part that is the frustration is that we're already frustration is that we're already frustration is that we're already subsidizing somebody else's health subsidizing somebody else's health subsidizing somebody else's health insurance. insurance. insurance. So, if I were to hypothetically double So, if I were to hypothetically double So, if I were to hypothetically double that number, I then or to's point, I that number, I then or to's point, I that number, I then or to's point, I take away the health insurance premium take away the health insurance premium take away the health insurance premium that I'm paying to United directly that I'm paying to United directly that I'm paying to United directly through my employer. I put it into that through my employer. I put it into that through my employer. I put it into that same Medicare bucket that I'm paying for same Medicare bucket that I'm paying for same Medicare bucket that I'm paying for and then now I have singlepayer things and then now I have singlepayer things and then now I have singlepayer things like that. To your point, there's always like that. To your point, there's always like that. To your point, there's always going to be a two-tier system. People going to be a two-tier system. People going to be a two-tier system. People who go with the private uh public, who go with the private uh public, who go with the private uh public, people who go with private. I don't people who go with private. I don't people who go with private. I don't think we're going to eliminate that think we're going to eliminate that think we're going to eliminate that here. I also don't think that we're here. I also don't think that we're here. I also don't think that we're going to be able to flip a switch and going to be able to flip a switch and going to be able to flip a switch and intertwine all these things. We do have intertwine all these things. We do have intertwine all these things. We do have Obamacare. We do have um private Obamacare. We do have um private Obamacare. We do have um private insurance. We do have Medicaid. We do insurance. We do have Medicaid. We do insurance. We do have Medicaid. We do have state uh Medicare. So, there's have state uh Medicare. So, there's have state uh Medicare. So, there's definitely some things that we'll have definitely some things that we'll have definitely some things that we'll have to unwind in order to make singlepayer to unwind in order to make singlepayer to unwind in order to make singlepayer trans uh parent. We also have to do uh trans uh parent. We also have to do uh trans uh parent. We also have to do uh we have to take an honest look at the we have to take an honest look at the we have to take an honest look at the monopolies. We have to take an honest monopolies. We have to take an honest monopolies. We have to take an honest look at the PBMs, what Mark Cuban has look at the PBMs, what Mark Cuban has look at the PBMs, what Mark Cuban has been banging the drum about. So, there's been banging the drum about. So, there's been banging the drum about. So, there's definitely different layers of the definitely different layers of the definitely different layers of the things in healthcare that we do need to things in healthcare that we do need to things in healthcare that we do need to unwind. unwind. unwind. However, if we were to step into the However, if we were to step into the However, if we were to step into the ought of it all, would you think it's ought of it all, would you think it's ought of it all, would you think it's better that we don't subsidize anything better that we don't subsidize anything better that we don't subsidize anything and then everybody so the 65 year olds and then everybody so the 65 year olds and then everybody so the 65 year olds who can't afford it, they'll just have who can't afford it, they'll just have who can't afford it, they'll just have to figure it out, but nobody gets to figure it out, but nobody gets to figure it out, but nobody gets anything taken out of their check or is anything taken out of their check or is anything taken out of their check or is it we all pay hypothetically speaking an it we all pay hypothetically speaking an it we all pay hypothetically speaking an extra $200 and then now it's you we extra $200 and then now it's you we extra $200 and then now it's you we everybody gets level six shitty everybody gets level six shitty everybody gets level six shitty healthcare and then you just pay for healthcare and then you just pay for healthcare and then you just pay for level 10 if you really need it. Like do level 10 if you really need it. Like do level 10 if you really need it. Like do you think that's a better solution or do you think that's a better solution or do you think that's a better solution or do you think it could just be independently you think it could just be independently you think it could just be independently private every like no money is private every like no money is private every like no money is subsidized at all and we completely get subsidized at all and we completely get subsidized at all and we completely get out of the health care system from a out of the health care system from a out of the health care system from a federal government level. federal government level. federal government level. >> Okay. Do do you want uh Tom Billu's >> Okay. Do do you want uh Tom Billu's >> Okay. Do do you want uh Tom Billu's aught of it all? aught of it all? aught of it all? >> Yeah. Yeah. We're in a we're not in is >> Yeah. Yeah. We're in a we're not in is >> Yeah. Yeah. We're in a we're not in is we're in a we can we're in a we can we're in a we can >> Okay. Unpopular. Uh here is Tom Bill's >> Okay. Unpopular. Uh here is Tom Bill's >> Okay. Unpopular. Uh here is Tom Bill's uh um there's no universe in which you uh um there's no universe in which you uh um there's no universe in which you can um rightly ask people to pay um an can um rightly ask people to pay um an can um rightly ask people to pay um an equal amount for care that is so equal amount for care that is so equal amount for care that is so dependent on lifestyle choices. dependent on lifestyle choices. dependent on lifestyle choices. >> So already from um what is the right way >> So already from um what is the right way >> So already from um what is the right way to do this there would have to be some to do this there would have to be some to do this there would have to be some reflection of what are your lifestyle reflection of what are your lifestyle reflection of what are your lifestyle choices and so your contributions should choices and so your contributions should choices and so your contributions should be higher or lower. bless you be higher or lower. bless you be higher or lower. bless you >> based on um whether you are living a >> based on um whether you are living a >> based on um whether you are living a lifestyle that is from an actuarial lifestyle that is from an actuarial lifestyle that is from an actuarial table cuz it's always going to be odds table cuz it's always going to be odds table cuz it's always going to be odds cuz cuz cuz >> God only knows you're living near a >> God only knows you're living near a >> God only knows you're living near a radon deposit you don't realize and radon deposit you don't realize and radon deposit you don't realize and you're you get lung cancer even though you're you get lung cancer even though you're you get lung cancer even though you're you know really taking care of you're you know really taking care of you're you know really taking care of your health and you're doing your best your health and you're doing your best your health and you're doing your best and all that and all that and all that >> there you could have a genetic >> there you could have a genetic >> there you could have a genetic predisposition and not know like there's predisposition and not know like there's predisposition and not know like there's all kinds of just bum deals. Um, but you all kinds of just bum deals. Um, but you all kinds of just bum deals. Um, but you look at things on an actuarial table and look at things on an actuarial table and look at things on an actuarial table and you say, "Okay, you fall into one of you say, "Okay, you fall into one of you say, "Okay, you fall into one of these categories." And so already people these categories." And so already people these categories." And so already people should be at a minimum, even if we're should be at a minimum, even if we're should be at a minimum, even if we're not going to punish people for bad not going to punish people for bad not going to punish people for bad health choices, we should definitely be health choices, we should definitely be health choices, we should definitely be rewarding people for good health rewarding people for good health rewarding people for good health choices. So that would be one thing that choices. So that would be one thing that choices. So that would be one thing that I would really like to see. Uh, and then I would really like to see. Uh, and then I would really like to see. Uh, and then also, oh man, um, I don't think people also, oh man, um, I don't think people also, oh man, um, I don't think people should be able to vote for things that should be able to vote for things that should be able to vote for things that influence their tax dollars if they influence their tax dollars if they influence their tax dollars if they don't pay tax. Like if you're not a net don't pay tax. Like if you're not a net don't pay tax. Like if you're not a net contributor, like you don't get a say in contributor, like you don't get a say in contributor, like you don't get a say in this in my opinion. Like that's crazy. this in my opinion. Like that's crazy. this in my opinion. Like that's crazy. people are just going to vote for people are just going to vote for people are just going to vote for whatever gives them the most free whatever gives them the most free whatever gives them the most free because they're not paying into it because they're not paying into it because they're not paying into it anyway. Uh and then on top of that, we anyway. Uh and then on top of that, we anyway. Uh and then on top of that, we want to have the free market as active want to have the free market as active want to have the free market as active as humanly possible so that we're as humanly possible so that we're as humanly possible so that we're incentivizing innovation because what I incentivizing innovation because what I incentivizing innovation because what I want to see is my life expectancy going want to see is my life expectancy going want to see is my life expectancy going up. And so I want to see that we are um up. And so I want to see that we are um up. And so I want to see that we are um stepping one more very important brick. stepping one more very important brick. stepping one more very important brick. M M M >> um I think that right now >> um I think that right now >> um I think that right now it is it feels great to say one of the it is it feels great to say one of the it is it feels great to say one of the things that we're really going to focus things that we're really going to focus things that we're really going to focus on making sure that people have access on making sure that people have access on making sure that people have access to is healthare. I love that. Um that's to is healthare. I love that. Um that's to is healthare. I love that. Um that's one of those things where I'd be like, one of those things where I'd be like, one of those things where I'd be like, "Yeah, I have no problem paying taxes "Yeah, I have no problem paying taxes "Yeah, I have no problem paying taxes for that." Um same with anything that for that." Um same with anything that for that." Um same with anything that goes to help make our kids the highest goes to help make our kids the highest goes to help make our kids the highest performing kids the planet over. performing kids the planet over. performing kids the planet over. Taxpayer dollars all day for that. I Taxpayer dollars all day for that. I Taxpayer dollars all day for that. I would love that. Um now a key part of would love that. Um now a key part of would love that. Um now a key part of this becomes this becomes this becomes uh we can have that if we want it from a uh we can have that if we want it from a uh we can have that if we want it from a tax perspective but we have to balance tax perspective but we have to balance tax perspective but we have to balance the budget. So if we balance the budget the budget. So if we balance the budget the budget. So if we balance the budget and then say well the thing that we and then say well the thing that we and then say well the thing that we really want to pay for is to make sure really want to pay for is to make sure really want to pay for is to make sure that everybody has healthcare and that that everybody has healthcare and that that everybody has healthcare and that we're looking at life expectancy and we're looking at life expectancy and we're looking at life expectancy and we're looking at percentage of people we're looking at percentage of people we're looking at percentage of people being crippled by debt. Um, yeah, those being crippled by debt. Um, yeah, those being crippled by debt. Um, yeah, those feel like really smart things to look feel like really smart things to look feel like really smart things to look at, but all of that has to be predicated at, but all of that has to be predicated at, but all of that has to be predicated on a balanced budget. on a balanced budget. on a balanced budget. >> If so, facto that that lets us know >> If so, facto that that lets us know >> If so, facto that that lets us know where we stand. Um, because you talked where we stand. Um, because you talked where we stand. Um, because you talked about it, uh, I wanted to hit the about it, uh, I wanted to hit the about it, uh, I wanted to hit the education thing real quick. Um, if I can education thing real quick. Um, if I can education thing real quick. Um, if I can find the about how our education system find the about how our education system find the about how our education system is a joke and how we've been spending is a joke and how we've been spending is a joke and how we've been spending upwards of $40,000 40k. Yes. Um, a tweet upwards of $40,000 40k. Yes. Um, a tweet upwards of $40,000 40k. Yes. Um, a tweet 40k per pupil and most students can't 40k per pupil and most students can't 40k per pupil and most students can't read properly. For the record, we could read properly. For the record, we could read properly. For the record, we could spend 100% on the budget on education spend 100% on the budget on education spend 100% on the budget on education and won't pursue the situation one iota. and won't pursue the situation one iota. and won't pursue the situation one iota. Spending isn't the problem. The problem Spending isn't the problem. The problem Spending isn't the problem. The problem is a corrupt and politicized education is a corrupt and politicized education is a corrupt and politicized education system that has mostly given up on system that has mostly given up on system that has mostly given up on teaching and importantly the discipline teaching and importantly the discipline teaching and importantly the discipline required to ensure students must required to ensure students must required to ensure students must actually learn. Decline is a choice and actually learn. Decline is a choice and actually learn. Decline is a choice and the collapse of public education was a the collapse of public education was a the collapse of public education was a choice by progressive quote unquote choice by progressive quote unquote choice by progressive quote unquote experts, bureaucrats, and teachers experts, bureaucrats, and teachers experts, bureaucrats, and teachers union. More than this is based on a union. More than this is based on a union. More than this is based on a report that more than half of NY third report that more than half of NY third report that more than half of NY third to fifth graders fail reading to fifth graders fail reading to fifth graders fail reading proficiency tests. proficiency tests. proficiency tests. >> Damn, that that is so brutal. Uh so >> Damn, that that is so brutal. Uh so >> Damn, that that is so brutal. Uh so yeah, to me that one is a no-brainer. we yeah, to me that one is a no-brainer. we yeah, to me that one is a no-brainer. we should be looking at our students and should be looking at our students and should be looking at our students and figuring out what is what does figuring out what is what does figuring out what is what does excellence look like and are we excellence look like and are we excellence look like and are we achieving it and the reality is that um achieving it and the reality is that um achieving it and the reality is that um this goes back to what I was talking this goes back to what I was talking this goes back to what I was talking about before you've got people on the about before you've got people on the about before you've got people on the left that do not want exclusionary left that do not want exclusionary left that do not want exclusionary boundaries so for instance uh I tried boundaries so for instance uh I tried boundaries so for instance uh I tried and failed to get into um the like and failed to get into um the like and failed to get into um the like gifted classes for I got in for math gifted classes for I got in for math gifted classes for I got in for math which is ridiculous uh mom I'm looking which is ridiculous uh mom I'm looking which is ridiculous uh mom I'm looking at you I think my mom campaigned for at you I think my mom campaigned for at you I think my mom campaigned for that one uh but I wasn't able to get in that one uh but I wasn't able to get in that one uh but I wasn't able to get in on like English and all that. So, most on like English and all that. So, most on like English and all that. So, most of my friends were all in like the they of my friends were all in like the they of my friends were all in like the they went to the gifted schools and they had went to the gifted schools and they had went to the gifted schools and they had um AP placements and all that and I um AP placements and all that and I um AP placements and all that and I wasn't able to get into that program. Uh wasn't able to get into that program. Uh wasn't able to get into that program. Uh at least not in middle school. I think at least not in middle school. I think at least not in middle school. I think in high school I got into a couple AP in high school I got into a couple AP in high school I got into a couple AP classes. But um that meant that I was on classes. But um that meant that I was on classes. But um that meant that I was on the outside and that I knew I was on the the outside and that I knew I was on the the outside and that I knew I was on the outside because I specifically went and outside because I specifically went and outside because I specifically went and took the testing and couldn't get in. took the testing and couldn't get in. took the testing and couldn't get in. And so that is as it should be. The fact And so that is as it should be. The fact And so that is as it should be. The fact that I wasn't able to get in, that's a that I wasn't able to get in, that's a that I wasn't able to get in, that's a me problem. So that isn't, oh, we don't me problem. So that isn't, oh, we don't me problem. So that isn't, oh, we don't want Tom to feel bad. We want to make want Tom to feel bad. We want to make want Tom to feel bad. We want to make sure that everybody is able to be in the sure that everybody is able to be in the sure that everybody is able to be in the same program. That's stupid. You are same program. That's stupid. You are same program. That's stupid. You are competing on an international stage. And competing on an international stage. And competing on an international stage. And unfortunately for all of us, youth unfortunately for all of us, youth unfortunately for all of us, youth matters a lot. And when you train kids matters a lot. And when you train kids matters a lot. And when you train kids to really be extraordinary, high to really be extraordinary, high to really be extraordinary, high performers, you find the kids that one performers, you find the kids that one performers, you find the kids that one want to do it, you encourage, you want to do it, you encourage, you want to do it, you encourage, you incentivize, you give them a structure incentivize, you give them a structure incentivize, you give them a structure in which they can shine and grow and get in which they can shine and grow and get in which they can shine and grow and get great. you should be celebrating your great. you should be celebrating your great. you should be celebrating your math Olympiads as hard as you celebrate math Olympiads as hard as you celebrate math Olympiads as hard as you celebrate your track and field stars. And we have your track and field stars. And we have your track and field stars. And we have just completely lost the plot on a just completely lost the plot on a just completely lost the plot on a willingness to say some kids are going willingness to say some kids are going willingness to say some kids are going to be more talented than others in a to be more talented than others in a to be more talented than others in a whole host of different areas. We should whole host of different areas. We should whole host of different areas. We should want that. We should nurture that want that. We should nurture that want that. We should nurture that talent. We should grow that talent. And talent. We should grow that talent. And talent. We should grow that talent. And the fact that it's going to leave people the fact that it's going to leave people the fact that it's going to leave people aside like myself is just tough titties. aside like myself is just tough titties. aside like myself is just tough titties. Like that is crazy to me that we're um Like that is crazy to me that we're um Like that is crazy to me that we're um not recognizing that excellence is also not recognizing that excellence is also not recognizing that excellence is also a choice and that we can steer kids down a choice and that we can steer kids down a choice and that we can steer kids down these paths of becoming extraordinary. these paths of becoming extraordinary. these paths of becoming extraordinary. Now, if at the end that kid is like, I'm Now, if at the end that kid is like, I'm Now, if at the end that kid is like, I'm burning out. I don't want to do this burning out. I don't want to do this burning out. I don't want to do this anymore. Fine, so be it. But you're anymore. Fine, so be it. But you're anymore. Fine, so be it. But you're going up against China, man. And China going up against China, man. And China going up against China, man. And China is making sure if you've got potential, is making sure if you've got potential, is making sure if you've got potential, that that potential is actually turned that that potential is actually turned that that potential is actually turned into skills. And if you don't have into skills. And if you don't have into skills. And if you don't have potential, you are ejected out of the potential, you are ejected out of the potential, you are ejected out of the system. You are put on a different system. You are put on a different system. You are put on a different track. you are not going to hold those track. you are not going to hold those track. you are not going to hold those other kids back. And I think that that other kids back. And I think that that other kids back. And I think that that is unfortunately just the hard reality is unfortunately just the hard reality is unfortunately just the hard reality of the fact that God has decided that we of the fact that God has decided that we of the fact that God has decided that we are all going to have different talents. are all going to have different talents. are all going to have different talents. But to try to like milk toast everybody But to try to like milk toast everybody But to try to like milk toast everybody to stop somebody from feeling bad is to stop somebody from feeling bad is to stop somebody from feeling bad is insanity. insanity. insanity. It's self-destructive. It's self-destructive. It's self-destructive. >> You're with the Asian model. We should >> You're with the Asian model. We should >> You're with the Asian model. We should like the Asian model. We should have like the Asian model. We should have like the Asian model. We should have >> Asian tiger moms would be embarrassed by >> Asian tiger moms would be embarrassed by >> Asian tiger moms would be embarrassed by how hardcore I am. That that is real how hardcore I am. That that is real how hardcore I am. That that is real talk. So yeah, I want to see Listen, I'm talk. So yeah, I want to see Listen, I'm talk. So yeah, I want to see Listen, I'm obviously being tongue-in-cheek. I would obviously being tongue-in-cheek. I would obviously being tongue-in-cheek. I would want my kid to be emotionally stable. I want my kid to be emotionally stable. I want my kid to be emotionally stable. I would want them to love their life and would want them to love their life and would want them to love their life and all of that, but yes, there would be an all of that, but yes, there would be an all of that, but yes, there would be an extreme expectation in my household as extreme expectation in my household as extreme expectation in my household as there was with me uh in the Billou there was with me uh in the Billou there was with me uh in the Billou household if you didn't get an A, you household if you didn't get an A, you household if you didn't get an A, you had explaining to do. And that level of had explaining to do. And that level of had explaining to do. And that level of high expectation, discipline was high expectation, discipline was high expectation, discipline was critical to the success that I've had critical to the success that I've had critical to the success that I've had because it was just beat into me that I because it was just beat into me that I because it was just beat into me that I had to be good. Now listen, in high had to be good. Now listen, in high had to be good. Now listen, in high school I cheated a lot, but I didn't school I cheated a lot, but I didn't school I cheated a lot, but I didn't cheat at all in college. And I did cheat at all in college. And I did cheat at all in college. And I did better in college than I did in high better in college than I did in high better in college than I did in high school. And so it ended up being this school. And so it ended up being this school. And so it ended up being this incredibly powerful thing. And the incredibly powerful thing. And the incredibly powerful thing. And the reason that I didn't cheat in college reason that I didn't cheat in college reason that I didn't cheat in college was I was like, my excuse for cheating was I was like, my excuse for cheating was I was like, my excuse for cheating in high school was always, you're making in high school was always, you're making in high school was always, you're making me learn things that I don't care about, me learn things that I don't care about, me learn things that I don't care about, but I've been able to choose what but I've been able to choose what but I've been able to choose what college I go to and what I'm studying. college I go to and what I'm studying. college I go to and what I'm studying. So why on earth would I cheat? I'm going So why on earth would I cheat? I'm going So why on earth would I cheat? I'm going to go out into the real world and to go out into the real world and to go out into the real world and actually need these skills. So let me actually need these skills. So let me actually need these skills. So let me actually acquire the skills. Now, you actually acquire the skills. Now, you actually acquire the skills. Now, you can say and I would say my parents did can say and I would say my parents did can say and I would say my parents did not do a good job because they didn't not do a good job because they didn't not do a good job because they didn't understand it. They didn't do a good job understand it. They didn't do a good job understand it. They didn't do a good job of explaining to me why I would need of explaining to me why I would need of explaining to me why I would need some of the things that I was learning. some of the things that I was learning. some of the things that I was learning. And because of that, I didn't understand And because of that, I didn't understand And because of that, I didn't understand the value of the education. Now, the value of the education. Now, the value of the education. Now, thankfully, once I got to college, I thankfully, once I got to college, I thankfully, once I got to college, I switched just completely flipped a switched just completely flipped a switched just completely flipped a switch and and studied. But that was switch and and studied. But that was switch and and studied. But that was where I realized, oh, if you put time where I realized, oh, if you put time where I realized, oh, if you put time and energy into getting better, you will and energy into getting better, you will and energy into getting better, you will actually get better. And so if we have a actually get better. And so if we have a actually get better. And so if we have a nation of kids that understand if I put nation of kids that understand if I put nation of kids that understand if I put time and energy into getting better at time and energy into getting better at time and energy into getting better at this thing, I will actually get better this thing, I will actually get better this thing, I will actually get better at this thing and I am celebrated and at this thing and I am celebrated and at this thing and I am celebrated and encouraged as I get better at that encouraged as I get better at that encouraged as I get better at that thing. Now my parents were also very thing. Now my parents were also very thing. Now my parents were also very smart. They made me feel loved even when smart. They made me feel loved even when smart. They made me feel loved even when I failed. But it was very clear, hey, I failed. But it was very clear, hey, I failed. But it was very clear, hey, there is this expectation and what the there is this expectation and what the there is this expectation and what the words they didn't have that I now have words they didn't have that I now have words they didn't have that I now have are what we value you for is the sincere are what we value you for is the sincere are what we value you for is the sincere pursuit of this. And so if you're pursuit of this. And so if you're pursuit of this. And so if you're actually working and doing your homework actually working and doing your homework actually working and doing your homework and you get bad grades, fair enough. You and you get bad grades, fair enough. You and you get bad grades, fair enough. You you don't have the aptitude for that you don't have the aptitude for that you don't have the aptitude for that thing, that's fine. This one's going to thing, that's fine. This one's going to thing, that's fine. This one's going to be harder for you. But if you're not be harder for you. But if you're not be harder for you. But if you're not putting in the time and energy, then putting in the time and energy, then putting in the time and energy, then that's a problem. And so that was always that's a problem. And so that was always that's a problem. And so that was always where my parents met me was you needed where my parents met me was you needed where my parents met me was you needed to explain yourself, but it's not like to explain yourself, but it's not like to explain yourself, but it's not like they didn't love me if I didn't do well. they didn't love me if I didn't do well. they didn't love me if I didn't do well. It was just, hey, you're not putting in It was just, hey, you're not putting in It was just, hey, you're not putting in the work. We know you can do better than the work. We know you can do better than the work. We know you can do better than this, and so we expect you to go do that this, and so we expect you to go do that this, and so we expect you to go do that thing. Um, and then if I did that thing thing. Um, and then if I did that thing thing. Um, and then if I did that thing and still failed, it was like, hey, you and still failed, it was like, hey, you and still failed, it was like, hey, you tried and we love you for that. And it tried and we love you for that. And it tried and we love you for that. And it doesn't matter when you whether you win doesn't matter when you whether you win doesn't matter when you whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game. I or lose, it's how you play the game. I or lose, it's how you play the game. I don't know if you guys hear that don't know if you guys hear that don't know if you guys hear that anymore, but that was certainly beaten anymore, but that was certainly beaten anymore, but that was certainly beaten into us as kids. And so, um, that is the into us as kids. And so, um, that is the into us as kids. And so, um, that is the kind of energy that people need to kind of energy that people need to kind of energy that people need to bring. That potential is expected to be bring. That potential is expected to be bring. That potential is expected to be turned into skills. We all have turned into skills. We all have turned into skills. We all have different levels of potential. Like I different levels of potential. Like I different levels of potential. Like I was talking about with basketball, I do was talking about with basketball, I do was talking about with basketball, I do not have potential in basketball, but my not have potential in basketball, but my not have potential in basketball, but my parents expected me to practice. So, if parents expected me to practice. So, if parents expected me to practice. So, if you think about, okay, you're going to you think about, okay, you're going to you think about, okay, you're going to do this thing. Well, then the do this thing. Well, then the do this thing. Well, then the expectation is that you're on a path to expectation is that you're on a path to expectation is that you're on a path to get 100 times better. That's a fake get 100 times better. That's a fake get 100 times better. That's a fake number. But just thinking about number. But just thinking about number. But just thinking about maximizing your potential, going hard maximizing your potential, going hard maximizing your potential, going hard and working very hard to transform and working very hard to transform and working very hard to transform potential into actual usable skills. potential into actual usable skills. potential into actual usable skills. That should be the mandate. And this is That should be the mandate. And this is That should be the mandate. And this is where I come back to talking about where I come back to talking about where I come back to talking about education, school unions becoming a education, school unions becoming a education, school unions becoming a weapon that is used to protect the weapon that is used to protect the weapon that is used to protect the teachers and not elevate the kids. And teachers and not elevate the kids. And teachers and not elevate the kids. And when you think of unions not as a thing when you think of unions not as a thing when you think of unions not as a thing that is necessarily good for the outcome that is necessarily good for the outcome that is necessarily good for the outcome that you're trying to get, but instead a that you're trying to get, but instead a that you're trying to get, but instead a political body that will grow at all political body that will grow at all political body that will grow at all costs, grow in political power, grow in costs, grow in political power, grow in costs, grow in political power, grow in uh dollars and cents, and it's not uh dollars and cents, and it's not uh dollars and cents, and it's not necessarily good for the organism as a necessarily good for the organism as a necessarily good for the organism as a whole. And that's why uh at a minimum whole. And that's why uh at a minimum whole. And that's why uh at a minimum there has to be tension there. there has to be tension there. there has to be tension there. >> Yeah, I'm I'm conflicted at the >> Yeah, I'm I'm conflicted at the >> Yeah, I'm I'm conflicted at the education level because I do think education level because I do think education level because I do think parenting is very important. Um, I love parenting is very important. Um, I love parenting is very important. Um, I love you guys, but a lot of you guys have bad you guys, but a lot of you guys have bad you guys, but a lot of you guys have bad parents, and that's why you're a crap parents, and that's why you're a crap parents, and that's why you're a crap human being now as an adult. And I'm human being now as an adult. And I'm human being now as an adult. And I'm sorry about that. sorry about that. sorry about that. >> True. >> True. >> True. >> But so it's like, I can give you >> But so it's like, I can give you >> But so it's like, I can give you standardized tests every day from first standardized tests every day from first standardized tests every day from first grade to sixth grade, but if a parent is grade to sixth grade, but if a parent is grade to sixth grade, but if a parent is just a bad parent, that kid's going to just a bad parent, that kid's going to just a bad parent, that kid's going to fail. And it's unfortunate, but that is fail. And it's unfortunate, but that is fail. And it's unfortunate, but that is the one missing piece that no the one missing piece that no the one missing piece that no government, no money, no check can government, no money, no check can government, no money, no check can facilitate for. So, I don't know. It's facilitate for. So, I don't know. It's facilitate for. So, I don't know. It's it's I feel a little bit conflicted when it's I feel a little bit conflicted when it's I feel a little bit conflicted when it comes to the education thing. it comes to the education thing. it comes to the education thing. >> Here's the thing. I don't be conflicted >> Here's the thing. I don't be conflicted >> Here's the thing. I don't be conflicted at all. That's an incredibly important at all. That's an incredibly important at all. That's an incredibly important thing thing thing >> um to remember. This is why I believe so >> um to remember. This is why I believe so >> um to remember. This is why I believe so firmly that um firmly that um firmly that um >> parents should be the we need a better >> parents should be the we need a better >> parents should be the we need a better word for this, but parents own the kids, word for this, but parents own the kids, word for this, but parents own the kids, not the government. I don't trust the not the government. I don't trust the not the government. I don't trust the government to be good at anything. And I government to be good at anything. And I government to be good at anything. And I get that there are going to be horrific get that there are going to be horrific get that there are going to be horrific parents, uh but part of that right now parents, uh but part of that right now parents, uh but part of that right now is cultural. They are teaching their is cultural. They are teaching their is cultural. They are teaching their kids what they think is best. If you kids what they think is best. If you kids what they think is best. If you think of parents that are, for instance, think of parents that are, for instance, think of parents that are, for instance, telling their kids, um, hey, you might telling their kids, um, hey, you might telling their kids, um, hey, you might be transgender and like, that's okay and be transgender and like, that's okay and be transgender and like, that's okay and we love you anyway, and if you're gay, we love you anyway, and if you're gay, we love you anyway, and if you're gay, that's fine. Like, if you look at that that's fine. Like, if you look at that that's fine. Like, if you look at that and go, oh my god, this is an unhinged and go, oh my god, this is an unhinged and go, oh my god, this is an unhinged leftist. Um, you're going to miss that. leftist. Um, you're going to miss that. leftist. Um, you're going to miss that. That's a parent who really has seen That's a parent who really has seen That's a parent who really has seen people suffer and have to stay hidden people suffer and have to stay hidden people suffer and have to stay hidden for years. And so, they just want to let for years. And so, they just want to let for years. And so, they just want to let people know, hey, it doesn't matter. people know, hey, it doesn't matter. people know, hey, it doesn't matter. Like, you're worthy of love and you're Like, you're worthy of love and you're Like, you're worthy of love and you're just as good as anybody else. Now, it's just as good as anybody else. Now, it's just as good as anybody else. Now, it's possible that that actually does nudge possible that that actually does nudge possible that that actually does nudge kids in a direction and that not having kids in a direction and that not having kids in a direction and that not having um boundaries that have proven um boundaries that have proven um boundaries that have proven themselves in the fullness of time to be themselves in the fullness of time to be themselves in the fullness of time to be high utility boundaries over, you know, high utility boundaries over, you know, high utility boundaries over, you know, centuries. Uh it's possible, but again, centuries. Uh it's possible, but again, centuries. Uh it's possible, but again, just sort of like dismissing that as just sort of like dismissing that as just sort of like dismissing that as somebody who isn't like really with love somebody who isn't like really with love somebody who isn't like really with love in their heart being like, I've seen in their heart being like, I've seen in their heart being like, I've seen people suffer. I don't want my kid to people suffer. I don't want my kid to people suffer. I don't want my kid to suffer. They're not um they're trying to suffer. They're not um they're trying to suffer. They're not um they're trying to do something good and wonderful. And so do something good and wonderful. And so do something good and wonderful. And so this is where we have to have the debate this is where we have to have the debate this is where we have to have the debate and the open conversation and not tell and the open conversation and not tell and the open conversation and not tell people to just shut up because they're a people to just shut up because they're a people to just shut up because they're a bigot. It's like no, we've really got to bigot. It's like no, we've really got to bigot. It's like no, we've really got to talk about these things and then you let talk about these things and then you let talk about these things and then you let parents run the individual experiments parents run the individual experiments parents run the individual experiments and then we see in the fullness of time and then we see in the fullness of time and then we see in the fullness of time what ends up working. what ends up working. what ends up working. >> That's the only way to do this. But when >> That's the only way to do this. But when >> That's the only way to do this. But when you force it down on people uh either you force it down on people uh either you force it down on people uh either culturally or worse from the government culturally or worse from the government culturally or worse from the government level, uh you start running into level, uh you start running into level, uh you start running into trouble. trouble. trouble. >> Speaking of Chinese excellence, um >> Speaking of Chinese excellence, um >> Speaking of Chinese excellence, um they're taking over the British milit uh they're taking over the British milit uh they're taking over the British milit uh navy slowly but surely. That's one way navy slowly but surely. That's one way navy slowly but surely. That's one way to look at this. to look at this. to look at this. >> Um, so Royal Navy spy drones used by >> Um, so Royal Navy spy drones used by >> Um, so Royal Navy spy drones used by British elite forces were secretly British elite forces were secretly British elite forces were secretly sending data to China. sending data to China. sending data to China. >> Yeah, boys and girls, this one, please >> Yeah, boys and girls, this one, please >> Yeah, boys and girls, this one, please wake up. Uh, this is going to be one of wake up. Uh, this is going to be one of wake up. Uh, this is going to be one of the most important things we talk about the most important things we talk about the most important things we talk about today. Recent revelations have shocked today. Recent revelations have shocked today. Recent revelations have shocked the UK military because Chinese-built the UK military because Chinese-built the UK military because Chinese-built military parts have been secretly military parts have been secretly military parts have been secretly communicating back to Chinese servers, communicating back to Chinese servers, communicating back to Chinese servers, reminding the entire world that supply reminding the entire world that supply reminding the entire world that supply chains that run through China create chains that run through China create chains that run through China create critical security vulnerabilities. critical security vulnerabilities. critical security vulnerabilities. We are in a cold war with China. Iran We are in a cold war with China. Iran We are in a cold war with China. Iran has been a massive distraction from what has been a massive distraction from what has been a massive distraction from what is really going to govern our lives for is really going to govern our lives for is really going to govern our lives for the next 10 to 20 years. And the British the next 10 to 20 years. And the British the next 10 to 20 years. And the British Navy has found out the hard way. They Navy has found out the hard way. They Navy has found out the hard way. They had 20 autonomous attack boats that were had 20 autonomous attack boats that were had 20 autonomous attack boats that were Britishes, Britishes, Britishes, Britishbuilt, Britishbuilt, Britishbuilt, and fitted with cameras sold as NDAA and fitted with cameras sold as NDAA and fitted with cameras sold as NDAA compliant. If you've never heard of the compliant. If you've never heard of the compliant. If you've never heard of the NDAA, it exists specifically to NDAA, it exists specifically to NDAA, it exists specifically to guarantee that there's nothing Chinese guarantee that there's nothing Chinese guarantee that there's nothing Chinese hiding inside of your military hiding inside of your military hiding inside of your military equipment. But yet the cameras were equipment. But yet the cameras were equipment. But yet the cameras were talking to China. Anyway, now this is talking to China. Anyway, now this is talking to China. Anyway, now this is where I'm going to remind everybody of where I'm going to remind everybody of where I'm going to remind everybody of Stuckset. Now, nobody knows who created Stuckset. Now, nobody knows who created Stuckset. Now, nobody knows who created the Stuckset virus, but the Stuckset the Stuckset virus, but the Stuckset the Stuckset virus, but the Stuckset virus embedded itself so deeply in like virus embedded itself so deeply in like virus embedded itself so deeply in like chips and things like that that it was chips and things like that that it was chips and things like that that it was like in every part of technology at one like in every part of technology at one like in every part of technology at one point. And its sole job was to figure point. And its sole job was to figure point. And its sole job was to figure out am I an Iranian nuclear centuge? And out am I an Iranian nuclear centuge? And out am I an Iranian nuclear centuge? And if I am, start kicking off all this if I am, start kicking off all this if I am, start kicking off all this crazy data so that they can't get them crazy data so that they can't get them crazy data so that they can't get them to work properly. This is how well when to work properly. This is how well when to work properly. This is how well when somebody has access to a chip that is uh somebody has access to a chip that is uh somebody has access to a chip that is uh manufactured very early, some part of it manufactured very early, some part of it manufactured very early, some part of it that goes through China and you don't that goes through China and you don't that goes through China and you don't realize and as you're, you know, doing realize and as you're, you know, doing realize and as you're, you know, doing these audits that you don't even catch these audits that you don't even catch these audits that you don't even catch it. This is where it becomes problematic it. This is where it becomes problematic it. This is where it becomes problematic not to control your supply chains. As not to control your supply chains. As not to control your supply chains. As reported by the Telegraph, cameras on reported by the Telegraph, cameras on reported by the Telegraph, cameras on the Royal Navy's K3 scout drone boats the Royal Navy's K3 scout drone boats the Royal Navy's K3 scout drone boats were sending a heartbeat signal, which were sending a heartbeat signal, which were sending a heartbeat signal, which is like a ping confirming that the is like a ping confirming that the is like a ping confirming that the device is online to an IP address in device is online to an IP address in device is online to an IP address in China. the the Royal Marines had been uh China. the the Royal Marines had been uh China. the the Royal Marines had been uh running these for months and the running these for months and the running these for months and the Ministry of Defense was running like a Ministry of Defense was running like a Ministry of Defense was running like a basic cyber assessment and they saw that basic cyber assessment and they saw that basic cyber assessment and they saw that it was doing this. Now, the Ministry of it was doing this. Now, the Ministry of it was doing this. Now, the Ministry of Defense is probably right that there's Defense is probably right that there's Defense is probably right that there's nothing sensitive that went out. It's nothing sensitive that went out. It's nothing sensitive that went out. It's not the claim, but ultimately what not the claim, but ultimately what not the claim, but ultimately what matters is that when you're talking matters is that when you're talking matters is that when you're talking about modern manufacturing, all roads about modern manufacturing, all roads about modern manufacturing, all roads lead through Beijing. Okay, this is this lead through Beijing. Okay, this is this lead through Beijing. Okay, this is this is a grand part of the West is a grand part of the West is a grand part of the West financializing everything, disguising financializing everything, disguising financializing everything, disguising their lack of um blocking and tackling their lack of um blocking and tackling their lack of um blocking and tackling from an economic standpoint of making from an economic standpoint of making from an economic standpoint of making things yourselves and trying to hide the things yourselves and trying to hide the things yourselves and trying to hide the fact that you were declining by getting fact that you were declining by getting fact that you were declining by getting things cheaper and cheaper elsewhere by things cheaper and cheaper elsewhere by things cheaper and cheaper elsewhere by outsourcing manufacturing, by outsourcing manufacturing, by outsourcing manufacturing, by outsourcing the knowledge, by outsourcing the knowledge, by outsourcing the knowledge, by outsourcing the workforce. All of that outsourcing the workforce. All of that outsourcing the workforce. All of that ended up going to Beijing because they ended up going to Beijing because they ended up going to Beijing because they understood something very simple. understood something very simple. understood something very simple. America was dominant going into World America was dominant going into World America was dominant going into World War II and after World War II precisely War II and after World War II precisely War II and after World War II precisely because they had become the world's because they had become the world's because they had become the world's manufacturing hub that they were doing manufacturing hub that they were doing manufacturing hub that they were doing some ungodly percentage of the world's some ungodly percentage of the world's some ungodly percentage of the world's manufacturing. So they were like, "Yeah, manufacturing. So they were like, "Yeah, manufacturing. So they were like, "Yeah, word. We're going to do that now." And word. We're going to do that now." And word. We're going to do that now." And they did it. It was brilliant. It is they did it. It was brilliant. It is they did it. It was brilliant. It is exactly what America should be doing. exactly what America should be doing. exactly what America should be doing. It's exactly what the British should be It's exactly what the British should be It's exactly what the British should be doing. People should be developing a doing. People should be developing a doing. People should be developing a massive amount of self-reliance because massive amount of self-reliance because massive amount of self-reliance because we are speaking now as America. We are we are speaking now as America. We are we are speaking now as America. We are very aggressively in a cold war with very aggressively in a cold war with very aggressively in a cold war with China and it is going to get hotter China and it is going to get hotter China and it is going to get hotter before it cools off. That is for sure. before it cools off. That is for sure. before it cools off. That is for sure. Hopefully it never goes to a kinetic Hopefully it never goes to a kinetic Hopefully it never goes to a kinetic war. But boy oh boy, we don't want all war. But boy oh boy, we don't want all war. But boy oh boy, we don't want all of our military equipment to be running of our military equipment to be running of our military equipment to be running through Beijing. And when you've got uh through Beijing. And when you've got uh through Beijing. And when you've got uh the British defense startup that were the British defense startup that were the British defense startup that were supplying these devices uh being a supplying these devices uh being a supplying these devices uh being a company in Hampshire in England and company in Hampshire in England and company in Hampshire in England and building what is meant to be sovereign building what is meant to be sovereign building what is meant to be sovereign military gear specifically for the Royal military gear specifically for the Royal military gear specifically for the Royal Navy, but they're buying from a supplier Navy, but they're buying from a supplier Navy, but they're buying from a supplier that even though it has certifications that even though it has certifications that even though it has certifications that they're clean of Chinese tech, that they're clean of Chinese tech, that they're clean of Chinese tech, they're not. Somehow Chinese components they're not. Somehow Chinese components they're not. Somehow Chinese components are in there somewhere. You have a are in there somewhere. You have a are in there somewhere. You have a global supply chain problem. global supply chain problem. global supply chain problem. China builds 70 to 80% of the world's China builds 70 to 80% of the world's China builds 70 to 80% of the world's commercial drones commercial drones commercial drones and warfare is going to be a drone game. and warfare is going to be a drone game. and warfare is going to be a drone game. So, we have got to have a solve for So, we have got to have a solve for So, we have got to have a solve for this. So, this while this isn't some this. So, this while this isn't some this. So, this while this isn't some major breach and they now have maps of major breach and they now have maps of major breach and they now have maps of everything inside of their equipment. everything inside of their equipment. everything inside of their equipment. Boy oh boy is it a potent reminder that Boy oh boy is it a potent reminder that Boy oh boy is it a potent reminder that even the stuff that we think is totally even the stuff that we think is totally even the stuff that we think is totally clear of all this stuff is not clear of clear of all this stuff is not clear of clear of all this stuff is not clear of all this stuff because of the way that all this stuff because of the way that all this stuff because of the way that supply chains work. And I know it's supply chains work. And I know it's supply chains work. And I know it's going to be difficult. I know it's going going to be difficult. I know it's going going to be difficult. I know it's going to make things more expensive, but we've to make things more expensive, but we've to make things more expensive, but we've got to find a way temporarily more got to find a way temporarily more got to find a way temporarily more expensive. We've got to find a way to expensive. We've got to find a way to expensive. We've got to find a way to bring things back into our countries. We bring things back into our countries. We bring things back into our countries. We have to be able to control our destiny. have to be able to control our destiny. have to be able to control our destiny. You can't allow manufacturing itself, You can't allow manufacturing itself, You can't allow manufacturing itself, rare earth magnets, rare earth magnet rare earth magnets, rare earth magnet rare earth magnets, rare earth magnet processing. You cannot allow that stuff processing. You cannot allow that stuff processing. You cannot allow that stuff to be a choke point far more profound to be a choke point far more profound to be a choke point far more profound than the straight of four moves. It's than the straight of four moves. It's than the straight of four moves. It's just suicide. just suicide. just suicide. >> We just banned the um what are the >> We just banned the um what are the >> We just banned the um what are the camera called? the DJ DJI's camera called? the DJ DJI's camera called? the DJ DJI's >> DJI >> DJI >> DJI >> DJI DJ drone. >> DJI DJ drone. >> DJI DJ drone. >> Yeah, I remember we banned the drones >> Yeah, I remember we banned the drones >> Yeah, I remember we banned the drones for the same reason the Huawei for the same reason the Huawei for the same reason the Huawei electronics were banned um electronics were banned um electronics were banned um >> because they were Yeah, >> because they were Yeah, >> because they were Yeah, >> they'll also flood your market. They'll >> they'll also flood your market. They'll >> they'll also flood your market. They'll make it financially impossible for you make it financially impossible for you make it financially impossible for you to build. That's what they're doing to build. That's what they're doing to build. That's what they're doing right now to Europe in car right now to Europe in car right now to Europe in car manufacturing. manufacturing. manufacturing. >> Now, if you've got Paul Mlucky telling >> Now, if you've got Paul Mlucky telling >> Now, if you've got Paul Mlucky telling you, "Hey, I'm making this thing you, "Hey, I'm making this thing you, "Hey, I'm making this thing >> and it could be manufactured on >> and it could be manufactured on >> and it could be manufactured on automotive manufacturing lines um and automotive manufacturing lines um and automotive manufacturing lines um and you're China. you're China. you're China. What industry would you really like to What industry would you really like to What industry would you really like to hollow out in any country that will let hollow out in any country that will let hollow out in any country that will let you? you? you? >> Automotive manufacturing, boys and >> Automotive manufacturing, boys and >> Automotive manufacturing, boys and girls. So, keep your eye on the prize. girls. So, keep your eye on the prize. girls. So, keep your eye on the prize. Keep your eye on the prize. You've got Keep your eye on the prize. You've got Keep your eye on the prize. You've got to be able to manufacture in your own to be able to manufacture in your own to be able to manufacture in your own country. And by the way, if you're country. And by the way, if you're country. And by the way, if you're China, man, you guys are killing the China, man, you guys are killing the China, man, you guys are killing the game. That's exactly people should be game. That's exactly people should be game. That's exactly people should be taking that model. So, this is not me taking that model. So, this is not me taking that model. So, this is not me going, "Oh, China's the bad guy." going, "Oh, China's the bad guy." going, "Oh, China's the bad guy." China's smart. That's smart. Do that. China's smart. That's smart. Do that. China's smart. That's smart. Do that. Control the world via manufacturing if Control the world via manufacturing if Control the world via manufacturing if you can. This is exactly how America got you can. This is exactly how America got you can. This is exactly how America got as powerful as it did. And then we as powerful as it did. And then we as powerful as it did. And then we forgot the lesson because that's what forgot the lesson because that's what forgot the lesson because that's what happens. you really do get complacent. happens. you really do get complacent. happens. you really do get complacent. Things go so well for so long, you Things go so well for so long, you Things go so well for so long, you think, well, no one is going to take think, well, no one is going to take think, well, no one is going to take advantage of this and in the short term advantage of this and in the short term advantage of this and in the short term they can't. But in the long term, they they can't. But in the long term, they they can't. But in the long term, they aggressively can. And so we've now all aggressively can. And so we've now all aggressively can. And so we've now all got to start playing much longer term got to start playing much longer term got to start playing much longer term games. games. games. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Is this only in retribution to a future Is this only in retribution to a future Is this only in retribution to a future kinetic war kinetic war kinetic war >> or is this just healthy country 101? >> or is this just healthy country 101? >> or is this just healthy country 101? >> This is healthy country 101. America has >> This is healthy country 101. America has >> This is healthy country 101. America has become so hyperfinancialized that um I become so hyperfinancialized that um I become so hyperfinancialized that um I mean listen we talk about this all the mean listen we talk about this all the mean listen we talk about this all the time but looming in the background is a time but looming in the background is a time but looming in the background is a global economic catastrophe. You have global economic catastrophe. You have global economic catastrophe. You have all the settings. It doesn't mean it's all the settings. It doesn't mean it's all the settings. It doesn't mean it's going to happen and that becomes the going to happen and that becomes the going to happen and that becomes the impossibility of this and it doesn't impossibility of this and it doesn't impossibility of this and it doesn't mean that you get the timing right even mean that you get the timing right even mean that you get the timing right even if it does happen. But the reality is if it does happen. But the reality is if it does happen. But the reality is when you look at like what undergirds when you look at like what undergirds when you look at like what undergirds our actual financial industry. If you our actual financial industry. If you our actual financial industry. If you guys remember a couple weeks ago there guys remember a couple weeks ago there guys remember a couple weeks ago there was a building in New York that started was a building in New York that started was a building in New York that started collapsing under its own weight. Uh collapsing under its own weight. Uh collapsing under its own weight. Uh that's what our economy looks like when that's what our economy looks like when that's what our economy looks like when you really look at the fact that the you really look at the fact that the you really look at the fact that the world is making one bet and that bet is world is making one bet and that bet is world is making one bet and that bet is on AI and that China is showing you that on AI and that China is showing you that on AI and that China is showing you that AI can be done far cheaper. Uh and but AI can be done far cheaper. Uh and but AI can be done far cheaper. Uh and but all this debt already exists. All this all this debt already exists. All this all this debt already exists. All this debt has already been packaged and sold debt has already been packaged and sold debt has already been packaged and sold out into the broader economy. Something out into the broader economy. Something out into the broader economy. Something like 40% of the gains in the S&P 500 are like 40% of the gains in the S&P 500 are like 40% of the gains in the S&P 500 are all AI of those bets. It's essentially all AI of those bets. It's essentially all AI of those bets. It's essentially two companies that control it all. I two companies that control it all. I two companies that control it all. I mean it's really really rickety out mean it's really really rickety out mean it's really really rickety out here. And so um yeah, people need to be here. And so um yeah, people need to be here. And so um yeah, people need to be very careful. This is just what I'm very careful. This is just what I'm very careful. This is just what I'm doing. You should assume that um I don't doing. You should assume that um I don't doing. You should assume that um I don't know what's going to happen and that I know what's going to happen and that I know what's going to happen and that I could be making massive mistakes. That could be making massive mistakes. That could be making massive mistakes. That is very important. Unfortunately, you is very important. Unfortunately, you is very important. Unfortunately, you must think through this for yourself. Uh must think through this for yourself. Uh must think through this for yourself. Uh but I am reducing my exposure to but I am reducing my exposure to but I am reducing my exposure to equities precisely because I look at equities precisely because I look at equities precisely because I look at that and I go, it could still be years that and I go, it could still be years that and I go, it could still be years more that this everything is fine, but more that this everything is fine, but more that this everything is fine, but I'd rather not be as uh extended into I'd rather not be as uh extended into I'd rather not be as uh extended into that market as I am now. that market as I am now. that market as I am now. >> Take that for what you will. I'm going >> Take that for what you will. I'm going >> Take that for what you will. I'm going to say a curse word. I don't hope I to say a curse word. I don't hope I to say a curse word. I don't hope I don't offend you, Tom. But I think we don't offend you, Tom. But I think we don't offend you, Tom. But I think we might need government intervention might need government intervention might need government intervention >> in what? >> in what? >> in what? >> The financialization of America. And >> The financialization of America. And >> The financialization of America. And maybe we need to start spending on maybe we need to start spending on maybe we need to start spending on infrastructure and infrastructure and infrastructure and >> Well, okay. So, that's an interesting >> Well, okay. So, that's an interesting >> Well, okay. So, that's an interesting way to look at um way to look at um way to look at um >> cuz to your point, we need >> cuz to your point, we need >> cuz to your point, we need manufacturing. manufacturing. manufacturing. >> Do you want regulation? Is that what >> Do you want regulation? Is that what >> Do you want regulation? Is that what you're looking for? you're looking for? you're looking for? >> No. Um, somebody needs to flip the >> No. Um, somebody needs to flip the >> No. Um, somebody needs to flip the switch to manufacturing in-house. switch to manufacturing in-house. switch to manufacturing in-house. >> Yes. No, I agree. >> Yes. No, I agree. >> Yes. No, I agree. >> We need to give subsidies to Ford so >> We need to give subsidies to Ford so >> We need to give subsidies to Ford so that way they're building cars here. We that way they're building cars here. We that way they're building cars here. We need to give subsidies to Teslas. So need to give subsidies to Teslas. So need to give subsidies to Teslas. So they're building cars here. We need to they're building cars here. We need to they're building cars here. We need to give subsid give subsid give subsid >> maybe. >> maybe. >> maybe. >> That's what I mean. >> That's what I mean. >> That's what I mean. >> Probably don't want to do subsidies >> Probably don't want to do subsidies >> Probably don't want to do subsidies quite like that. quite like that. quite like that. >> But to your point, right now, everybody >> But to your point, right now, everybody >> But to your point, right now, everybody just wants to put all their money into just wants to put all their money into just wants to put all their money into stock buybacks into the uh financial stock buybacks into the uh financial stock buybacks into the uh financial market so number can go up. We need some market so number can go up. We need some market so number can go up. We need some of those dollars, some of those profits of those dollars, some of those profits of those dollars, some of those profits to go into actual atoms in the world so to go into actual atoms in the world so to go into actual atoms in the world so that way we can keep making stuff here. that way we can keep making stuff here. that way we can keep making stuff here. >> Healthy country 101. Yep. Cuz I feel >> Healthy country 101. Yep. Cuz I feel >> Healthy country 101. Yep. Cuz I feel like if I'm a financialized company, I'm like if I'm a financialized company, I'm like if I'm a financialized company, I'm not going to put myself in the hole for not going to put myself in the hole for not going to put myself in the hole for the betterment of America. Old school the betterment of America. Old school the betterment of America. Old school CEOs might cuz they were more patriotic. CEOs might cuz they were more patriotic. CEOs might cuz they were more patriotic. But new school CEOs, I'm here for seven But new school CEOs, I'm here for seven But new school CEOs, I'm here for seven years. I got to get my exit like my years. I got to get my exit like my years. I got to get my exit like my exit. I need to make number go up so I exit. I need to make number go up so I exit. I need to make number go up so I can retire. Y like that's the CEO path can retire. Y like that's the CEO path can retire. Y like that's the CEO path right now. So I think the incentive right now. So I think the incentive right now. So I think the incentive system isn't there for the companies. So system isn't there for the companies. So system isn't there for the companies. So somebody needs to put their finger on somebody needs to put their finger on somebody needs to put their finger on the scale even if it's just a little bit the scale even if it's just a little bit the scale even if it's just a little bit to flood it in there. to flood it in there. to flood it in there. >> Yeah. No, I totally agree. So this is >> Yeah. No, I totally agree. So this is >> Yeah. No, I totally agree. So this is what I've been talking about with the what I've been talking about with the what I've been talking about with the tariffs. Everybody had a stroke when tariffs. Everybody had a stroke when tariffs. Everybody had a stroke when Trump started doing it. Um, that's why Trump started doing it. Um, that's why Trump started doing it. Um, that's why the right way to talk about it is the right way to talk about it is the right way to talk about it is Hamilton. Hamilton. Hamilton. >> The fact that Trump is running the >> The fact that Trump is running the >> The fact that Trump is running the Hamilton playbook, it's just easier to Hamilton playbook, it's just easier to Hamilton playbook, it's just easier to talk about that this is literally talk about that this is literally talk about that this is literally Alexander Hamilton telling you exactly Alexander Hamilton telling you exactly Alexander Hamilton telling you exactly how to run an economy when you want to how to run an economy when you want to how to run an economy when you want to become the strongest nation in the become the strongest nation in the become the strongest nation in the world. You have to be protectionist. world. You have to be protectionist. world. You have to be protectionist. You've got to focus on denying people You've got to focus on denying people You've got to focus on denying people from bringing in their cheap goods. from bringing in their cheap goods. from bringing in their cheap goods. China, I'm looking at you. And you've China, I'm looking at you. And you've China, I'm looking at you. And you've got to incentivize the companies to got to incentivize the companies to got to incentivize the companies to build internally. Uh, and you have to build internally. Uh, and you have to build internally. Uh, and you have to use debt in a smart way. and we are use debt in a smart way. and we are use debt in a smart way. and we are doing none of those. And Trump's every doing none of those. And Trump's every doing none of those. And Trump's every attempt to try to do any of that is met attempt to try to do any of that is met attempt to try to do any of that is met with such profound backlash uh that with such profound backlash uh that with such profound backlash uh that people just cannot see through to what people just cannot see through to what people just cannot see through to what he's trying to do. Um and it is he's trying to do. Um and it is he's trying to do. Um and it is unfortunately what we must do because unfortunately what we must do because unfortunately what we must do because we've got to manufacture things here. we've got to manufacture things here. we've got to manufacture things here. You cannot have your rival um have a a You cannot have your rival um have a a You cannot have your rival um have a a strangle hold on your military strangle hold on your military strangle hold on your military equipment. It's just completely insane. equipment. It's just completely insane. equipment. It's just completely insane. Um, England has let China have a Um, England has let China have a Um, England has let China have a chokeold on their entire steel industry. chokeold on their entire steel industry. chokeold on their entire steel industry. So, they can't even make steel So, they can't even make steel So, they can't even make steel themselves. That's crazy. So, yeah, it themselves. That's crazy. So, yeah, it themselves. That's crazy. So, yeah, it it it is at a level of absurd that's it it is at a level of absurd that's it it is at a level of absurd that's like it's not 1990 anymore. So, but like it's not 1990 anymore. So, but like it's not 1990 anymore. So, but people are acting like this is 1990. people are acting like this is 1990. people are acting like this is 1990. It's not like you've got to do different It's not like you've got to do different It's not like you've got to do different things. You've got to now be able to things. You've got to now be able to things. You've got to now be able to manufacture in your home country or with manufacture in your home country or with manufacture in your home country or with your tightest allies. and the days of your tightest allies. and the days of your tightest allies. and the days of it's one big world like that's over. it's one big world like that's over. it's one big world like that's over. >> This goes to the next story. These >> This goes to the next story. These >> This goes to the next story. These stories are lining up perfectly. Um I stories are lining up perfectly. Um I stories are lining up perfectly. Um I would call this unpatriotic but US would call this unpatriotic but US would call this unpatriotic but US defense giants LED and Rathon are defense giants LED and Rathon are defense giants LED and Rathon are reportedly resistant to licensing out reportedly resistant to licensing out reportedly resistant to licensing out the Patriot missile production in the Patriot missile production in the Patriot missile production in Ukraine because they fear that the Ukraine because they fear that the Ukraine because they fear that the Ukrainian manufacturers will be able to Ukrainian manufacturers will be able to Ukrainian manufacturers will be able to improve the Patriot. Um I'm not going to improve the Patriot. Um I'm not going to improve the Patriot. Um I'm not going to slander capitalism. I promise I'm not. slander capitalism. I promise I'm not. slander capitalism. I promise I'm not. I'm not going to be called a comedy this I'm not going to be called a comedy this I'm not going to be called a comedy this episode. I'm trying to make it through. episode. I'm trying to make it through. episode. I'm trying to make it through. I got 30 more minutes. I can almost do I got 30 more minutes. I can almost do I got 30 more minutes. I can almost do it. But if I don't want to help these it. But if I don't want to help these it. But if I don't want to help these people in war because I don't want to people in war because I don't want to people in war because I don't want to touch my IP. touch my IP. touch my IP. I feel like that's a little bit dirt I feel like that's a little bit dirt I feel like that's a little bit dirt like that's a little cronyism. like that's a little cronyism. like that's a little cronyism. >> Well, it's interesting. I don't view >> Well, it's interesting. I don't view >> Well, it's interesting. I don't view this one as cronyism. I view this as um this one as cronyism. I view this as um this one as cronyism. I view this as um stupid on their part. So, what I would stupid on their part. So, what I would stupid on their part. So, what I would do is I would say, "Oh we've got do is I would say, "Oh we've got do is I would say, "Oh we've got an opportunity for these guys to be an an opportunity for these guys to be an an opportunity for these guys to be an R&D wing of our companies. This is R&D wing of our companies. This is R&D wing of our companies. This is insane." And I would say, "Hey insane." And I would say, "Hey insane." And I would say, "Hey guys, cool. we're going to let you guys, cool. we're going to let you guys, cool. we're going to let you manufacture this stuff. All the manufacture this stuff. All the manufacture this stuff. All the innovations that you do belong to us. innovations that you do belong to us. innovations that you do belong to us. And now all of a sudden, you've got uh And now all of a sudden, you've got uh And now all of a sudden, you've got uh necessities, the mother of invention. necessities, the mother of invention. necessities, the mother of invention. You've got people who guaranteed will You've got people who guaranteed will You've got people who guaranteed will make it better because they are so make it better because they are so make it better because they are so desperate to make it better. And if they desperate to make it better. And if they desperate to make it better. And if they don't make it better, then you're not don't make it better, then you're not don't make it better, then you're not out anything. You got paid the whole out anything. You got paid the whole out anything. You got paid the whole time. Thude, this is where time. Thude, this is where time. Thude, this is where entrepreneurs need to be beaten with a entrepreneurs need to be beaten with a entrepreneurs need to be beaten with a baseball bat by the market. And the baseball bat by the market. And the baseball bat by the market. And the market will be like, "Fuck you. You're market will be like, "Fuck you. You're market will be like, "Fuck you. You're dumb." And so when you look at somebody dumb." And so when you look at somebody dumb." And so when you look at somebody like uh a Palmer Lucky, this is exactly like uh a Palmer Lucky, this is exactly like uh a Palmer Lucky, this is exactly how he ends up taking these guys over how he ends up taking these guys over how he ends up taking these guys over and 20 years from now we're all like, and 20 years from now we're all like, and 20 years from now we're all like, "Who's Loheed Martin? I've never even "Who's Loheed Martin? I've never even "Who's Loheed Martin? I've never even heard of them." You're like, "Oh my god, heard of them." You're like, "Oh my god, heard of them." You're like, "Oh my god, they were like Androl, but like back in they were like Androl, but like back in they were like Androl, but like back in the day." Oh, what ended up happening? the day." Oh, what ended up happening? the day." Oh, what ended up happening? Oh, they had this opportunity to partner Oh, they had this opportunity to partner Oh, they had this opportunity to partner with a company or a country that was with a company or a country that was with a company or a country that was actually at war that would have actually at war that would have actually at war that would have innovated and they could have owned all innovated and they could have owned all innovated and they could have owned all that IP. And they were so they were so that IP. And they were so they were so that IP. And they were so they were so afraid to look stupid. And they were so afraid to look stupid. And they were so afraid to look stupid. And they were so afraid that the cost of their would afraid that the cost of their would afraid that the cost of their would go down instead of realizing the US go down instead of realizing the US go down instead of realizing the US government is standing with the biggest government is standing with the biggest government is standing with the biggest checkbook in the universe. They want to checkbook in the universe. They want to checkbook in the universe. They want to just wipe Iran off the map. If just wipe Iran off the map. If just wipe Iran off the map. If you could do this faster, you'd be you could do this faster, you'd be you could do this faster, you'd be making money hand over fist. But making money hand over fist. But making money hand over fist. But because you're so slow and you're so because you're so slow and you're so because you're so slow and you're so expensive and you do not expensive and you do not expensive and you do not understand, war has already left you understand, war has already left you understand, war has already left you behind that you're going to behind that you're going to behind that you're going to cling to your RP, dude. Okay, listen. cling to your RP, dude. Okay, listen. cling to your RP, dude. Okay, listen. Entrepreneurs out there, this is why Entrepreneurs out there, this is why Entrepreneurs out there, this is why you're going to win. Quest came out of you're going to win. Quest came out of you're going to win. Quest came out of nowhere to beat companies tens of nowhere to beat companies tens of nowhere to beat companies tens of thousands uh percent bigger than us and thousands uh percent bigger than us and thousands uh percent bigger than us and we absolutely mopped the floor with them we absolutely mopped the floor with them we absolutely mopped the floor with them because they were so protective of the because they were so protective of the because they were so protective of the way that they were doing things that way that they were doing things that way that they were doing things that they would literally laugh us out of the they would literally laugh us out of the they would literally laugh us out of the room. And we were just like, "Okay, but room. And we were just like, "Okay, but room. And we were just like, "Okay, but if we're right, you guys are all if we're right, you guys are all if we're right, you guys are all fucked." And guess what? They were all fucked." And guess what? They were all fucked." And guess what? They were all because we came in and innovated because we came in and innovated because we came in and innovated because we had to if we were going to because we had to if we were going to because we had to if we were going to make a name for ourselves quite frankly make a name for ourselves quite frankly make a name for ourselves quite frankly if we wanted the product to exist at all if we wanted the product to exist at all if we wanted the product to exist at all we had to innovate and so we did the we had to innovate and so we did the we had to innovate and so we did the thing and then what ends up happening I thing and then what ends up happening I thing and then what ends up happening I remember this conversation at Quest remember this conversation at Quest remember this conversation at Quest going we were like fighting for every going we were like fighting for every going we were like fighting for every dollar and we were like there's going to dollar and we were like there's going to dollar and we were like there's going to come a day where we're going to have a come a day where we're going to have a come a day where we're going to have a $10 million opportunity and we're going $10 million opportunity and we're going $10 million opportunity and we're going to ignore it because it's too small for to ignore it because it's too small for to ignore it because it's too small for us to deal with. And I remember laughing us to deal with. And I remember laughing us to deal with. And I remember laughing thinking, there's no way, man. That's so thinking, there's no way, man. That's so thinking, there's no way, man. That's so crazy. Why would anybody ever do that? crazy. Why would anybody ever do that? crazy. Why would anybody ever do that? And then you make 20 plus million in a And then you make 20 plus million in a And then you make 20 plus million in a single day and somebody goes, "Hey, I've single day and somebody goes, "Hey, I've single day and somebody goes, "Hey, I've got this $10 million opportunity." got this $10 million opportunity." got this $10 million opportunity." You're like, "I can't even think about You're like, "I can't even think about You're like, "I can't even think about that." And this is why the young guy that." And this is why the young guy that." And this is why the young guy always ends up winning because you look always ends up winning because you look always ends up winning because you look at that $10 million as the greatest at that $10 million as the greatest at that $10 million as the greatest opportunity ever. You innovate to get opportunity ever. You innovate to get opportunity ever. You innovate to get those $10 million. You get the energy those $10 million. You get the energy those $10 million. You get the energy behind you. Now people start looking at behind you. Now people start looking at behind you. Now people start looking at you. You're the cool new kid on the you. You're the cool new kid on the you. You're the cool new kid on the block. And now you go crazy. And block. And now you go crazy. And block. And now you go crazy. And eventually you calcify into the old eventually you calcify into the old eventually you calcify into the old dumbass, which is the very thing with my dumbass, which is the very thing with my dumbass, which is the very thing with my life I'm trying to find out if you can life I'm trying to find out if you can life I'm trying to find out if you can avoid doing. And you need to reinvent. avoid doing. And you need to reinvent. avoid doing. And you need to reinvent. You need to always be hungry. You need You need to always be hungry. You need You need to always be hungry. You need to always have that pirate spirit. This to always have that pirate spirit. This to always have that pirate spirit. This is one of the things that made Steve is one of the things that made Steve is one of the things that made Steve Jobs as extraordinary as he was at the Jobs as extraordinary as he was at the Jobs as extraordinary as he was at the height of Apple's success before he got height of Apple's success before he got height of Apple's success before he got kicked out. At the height of Apple kicked out. At the height of Apple kicked out. At the height of Apple success, he literally took a group like success, he literally took a group like success, he literally took a group like a skunks work group off to a separate a skunks work group off to a separate a skunks work group off to a separate building. They hung a pirate flag above building. They hung a pirate flag above building. They hung a pirate flag above the company and were like, "We're going the company and were like, "We're going the company and were like, "We're going to do things totally differently. You've to do things totally differently. You've to do things totally differently. You've got to somehow be able to capture that got to somehow be able to capture that got to somehow be able to capture that spirit." And Loheed Martin and Rathon spirit." And Loheed Martin and Rathon spirit." And Loheed Martin and Rathon just can't do it. These guys are just can't do it. These guys are just can't do it. These guys are stupid. And according to The Atlantic, stupid. And according to The Atlantic, stupid. And according to The Atlantic, they reported over the weekend that they reported over the weekend that they reported over the weekend that these guys, Loheed Martin and Rathon, uh these guys, Loheed Martin and Rathon, uh these guys, Loheed Martin and Rathon, uh they they're just flat telling Ukraine they they're just flat telling Ukraine they they're just flat telling Ukraine that we're not going to um use what you that we're not going to um use what you that we're not going to um use what you guys are doing. are resisting Ukraine's guys are doing. are resisting Ukraine's guys are doing. are resisting Ukraine's request just for a license to build request just for a license to build request just for a license to build Patriot interceptors. And this is all Patriot interceptors. And this is all Patriot interceptors. And this is all absolutely stupid. They have an absolutely stupid. They have an absolutely stupid. They have an opportunity to do something so opportunity to do something so opportunity to do something so extraordinary to use the innovations extraordinary to use the innovations extraordinary to use the innovations that inevitably come out of a war to that inevitably come out of a war to that inevitably come out of a war to make their company better, their IP make their company better, their IP make their company better, their IP better. But yes, they would have to sell better. But yes, they would have to sell better. But yes, they would have to sell these things for less than they're worth these things for less than they're worth these things for less than they're worth now. Yes, they would have to accept that now. Yes, they would have to accept that now. Yes, they would have to accept that their engineers did not innovate as their engineers did not innovate as their engineers did not innovate as quickly as the guys that are actually quickly as the guys that are actually quickly as the guys that are actually being blown up every night because being blown up every night because being blown up every night because that's how life works. that's how life works. that's how life works. One last thing and then I will get off One last thing and then I will get off One last thing and then I will get off my soap box. As an entrepreneur, I beg my soap box. As an entrepreneur, I beg my soap box. As an entrepreneur, I beg you guys, your ego is going to be your you guys, your ego is going to be your you guys, your ego is going to be your enemy. You're going to want every idea enemy. You're going to want every idea enemy. You're going to want every idea to be yours. Part of the way that I run to be yours. Part of the way that I run to be yours. Part of the way that I run my companies is to make sure other my companies is to make sure other my companies is to make sure other people get credit for their ideas, to people get credit for their ideas, to people get credit for their ideas, to not take credit for their stuff, to even not take credit for their stuff, to even not take credit for their stuff, to even sometimes give them credit for something sometimes give them credit for something sometimes give them credit for something that I started because I don't scale. that I started because I don't scale. that I started because I don't scale. I'm I'm only ever going to have a I'm I'm only ever going to have a I'm I'm only ever going to have a fraction of the good ideas. And if I fraction of the good ideas. And if I fraction of the good ideas. And if I want to get these great ideas and be want to get these great ideas and be want to get these great ideas and be able to use them to make my company able to use them to make my company able to use them to make my company bigger and better, I've got to realize bigger and better, I've got to realize bigger and better, I've got to realize that having the right answer matters a that having the right answer matters a that having the right answer matters a lot more than being the one to think of lot more than being the one to think of lot more than being the one to think of the right answer. But I see this all the the right answer. But I see this all the the right answer. But I see this all the time. People feel threatened by the time. People feel threatened by the time. People feel threatened by the people who can create the idea. Don't people who can create the idea. Don't people who can create the idea. Don't need to create the idea. Be the one that need to create the idea. Be the one that need to create the idea. Be the one that puts the energy behind the good idea. puts the energy behind the good idea. puts the energy behind the good idea. When you're the one who controls the When you're the one who controls the When you're the one who controls the company, that's only to your advantage. company, that's only to your advantage. company, that's only to your advantage. And all you have to do is celebrate And all you have to do is celebrate And all you have to do is celebrate people, reward people, pay those people people, reward people, pay those people people, reward people, pay those people well, tie them into this success. But well, tie them into this success. But well, tie them into this success. But most people can't do it because they most people can't do it because they most people can't do it because they can't get the out of their own like can't get the out of their own like can't get the out of their own like egotistical way. It is crazy. Value egotistical way. It is crazy. Value egotistical way. It is crazy. Value yourself for identifying the right yourself for identifying the right yourself for identifying the right answer rather than being the one to come answer rather than being the one to come answer rather than being the one to come up with it. But most people can't. up with it. But most people can't. up with it. But most people can't. >> Man, pride comes before the fall. >> Man, pride comes before the fall. >> Man, pride comes before the fall. >> Facts. Some things are just classic. Uh, >> Facts. Some things are just classic. Uh, >> Facts. Some things are just classic. Uh, China again winning again. Their central China again winning again. Their central China again winning again. Their central bank just added 20 tons of gold in July, bank just added 20 tons of gold in July, bank just added 20 tons of gold in July, its largest purchase since October 2023. its largest purchase since October 2023. its largest purchase since October 2023. So, not only are they building beating So, not only are they building beating So, not only are they building beating us on the atoms physical space, they're us on the atoms physical space, they're us on the atoms physical space, they're now out financialization us because now out financialization us because now out financialization us because they're now preparing for the other side they're now preparing for the other side they're now preparing for the other side of the eventual crash. of the eventual crash. of the eventual crash. >> Here's what I love about what they're >> Here's what I love about what they're >> Here's what I love about what they're doing right now. China is actually doing right now. China is actually doing right now. China is actually saying, "We don't want part of this saying, "We don't want part of this saying, "We don't want part of this financialization." That's all financialization." That's all financialization." That's all I want even my money to be about I want even my money to be about I want even my money to be about electrons. I want to move heavy things electrons. I want to move heavy things electrons. I want to move heavy things from place to place. And so these guys from place to place. And so these guys from place to place. And so these guys audited the world and they said, "Okay, audited the world and they said, "Okay, audited the world and they said, "Okay, we need to manufacture all the physical we need to manufacture all the physical we need to manufacture all the physical stuff and ship it around. Cool. We're stuff and ship it around. Cool. We're stuff and ship it around. Cool. We're going to get the best at that. Second, going to get the best at that. Second, going to get the best at that. Second, we're watching what the US is doing. we're watching what the US is doing. we're watching what the US is doing. They're financializing everything. This They're financializing everything. This They're financializing everything. This is classic late empire. These guys are is classic late empire. These guys are is classic late empire. These guys are idiots. So what we're going to idiots. So what we're going to idiots. So what we're going to do is we're going to get out from under do is we're going to get out from under do is we're going to get out from under that system. We'll use it while it's that system. We'll use it while it's that system. We'll use it while it's beneficial, but then we're going to get beneficial, but then we're going to get beneficial, but then we're going to get out." And they started getting out by out." And they started getting out by out." And they started getting out by buying gold, physical heavy gold, making buying gold, physical heavy gold, making buying gold, physical heavy gold, making it illegal to trade paper gold, so that it illegal to trade paper gold, so that it illegal to trade paper gold, so that people can't artificially influence the people can't artificially influence the people can't artificially influence the price. And more importantly, because price. And more importantly, because price. And more importantly, because they know the smartest among them in the they know the smartest among them in the they know the smartest among them in the civil uh the civilian population are civil uh the civilian population are civil uh the civilian population are looking out at the world going, "Yo, looking out at the world going, "Yo, looking out at the world going, "Yo, this is all predicated on one big AI bet this is all predicated on one big AI bet this is all predicated on one big AI bet in the US. that. I want to buy in the US. that. I want to buy in the US. that. I want to buy gold. Sorry, can't do it on paper. Damn. gold. Sorry, can't do it on paper. Damn. gold. Sorry, can't do it on paper. Damn. I guess I'll have to do physical gold." I guess I'll have to do physical gold." I guess I'll have to do physical gold." So now they're buying physical gold as So now they're buying physical gold as So now they're buying physical gold as America proved in whatever 1934. Uh once America proved in whatever 1934. Uh once America proved in whatever 1934. Uh once the gold is in your country, baby, you the gold is in your country, baby, you the gold is in your country, baby, you can do whatever you want with it. So the can do whatever you want with it. So the can do whatever you want with it. So the Chinese government is like, "Yeah, baby, Chinese government is like, "Yeah, baby, Chinese government is like, "Yeah, baby, import all that physical gold, boys and import all that physical gold, boys and import all that physical gold, boys and girls. We'll store it for you all as girls. We'll store it for you all as girls. We'll store it for you all as well." If they ever need to, they will well." If they ever need to, they will well." If they ever need to, they will just say, "Sorry, can't sell your just say, "Sorry, can't sell your just say, "Sorry, can't sell your physical gold." Or the US made it physical gold." Or the US made it physical gold." Or the US made it illegal for decades to own physical illegal for decades to own physical illegal for decades to own physical gold. That is crazy, man. And so gold. That is crazy, man. And so gold. That is crazy, man. And so that allowed the US to devalue the that allowed the US to devalue the that allowed the US to devalue the dollar overnight. Nothing you could do dollar overnight. Nothing you could do dollar overnight. Nothing you could do about it because they forced you to sell about it because they forced you to sell about it because they forced you to sell them all their gold at the low at the them all their gold at the low at the them all their gold at the low at the low price and then they jacked the price low price and then they jacked the price low price and then they jacked the price of gold up and said, "Okay, you can buy of gold up and said, "Okay, you can buy of gold up and said, "Okay, you can buy gold now." So crazy, man. gold now." So crazy, man. gold now." So crazy, man. >> So anyway, China knows they could do >> So anyway, China knows they could do >> So anyway, China knows they could do that. So they are doing two things right that. So they are doing two things right that. So they are doing two things right now. They're selling US debt in massive now. They're selling US debt in massive now. They're selling US debt in massive quantities, their lowest level since quantities, their lowest level since quantities, their lowest level since like 2008. Selling US debt like crazy. like 2008. Selling US debt like crazy. like 2008. Selling US debt like crazy. 20 Why does 2008 matter? because we were 20 Why does 2008 matter? because we were 20 Why does 2008 matter? because we were a fiscal mess. And so we are China is a fiscal mess. And so we are China is a fiscal mess. And so we are China is saying, "You guys are the same level of saying, "You guys are the same level of saying, "You guys are the same level of fiscal mess in 2026 that you were in fiscal mess in 2026 that you were in fiscal mess in 2026 that you were in 2008. Let that one sink in." And they're 2008. Let that one sink in." And they're 2008. Let that one sink in." And they're migrating over to physical gold. So migrating over to physical gold. So migrating over to physical gold. So these are guys that are saying, "Yeah, these are guys that are saying, "Yeah, these are guys that are saying, "Yeah, we we know what this looks like when an we we know what this looks like when an we we know what this looks like when an empire makes this mistake and we're empire makes this mistake and we're empire makes this mistake and we're going to do the exact opposite of all of going to do the exact opposite of all of going to do the exact opposite of all of that." Man, it's going to be interesting that." Man, it's going to be interesting that." Man, it's going to be interesting to see too because everybody has the to see too because everybody has the to see too because everybody has the same feeling that the market is about to same feeling that the market is about to same feeling that the market is about to crash, but nobody knows exactly what crash, but nobody knows exactly what crash, but nobody knows exactly what that means, what industry will go first, that means, what industry will go first, that means, what industry will go first, who will get build out, where it's going who will get build out, where it's going who will get build out, where it's going to be subsidized, what's going to be too to be subsidized, what's going to be too to be subsidized, what's going to be too big to fail, what's not going to be. big to fail, what's not going to be. big to fail, what's not going to be. >> You ready for something really >> You ready for something really >> You ready for something really unnerving? unnerving? unnerving? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Okay, so everybody knows 2008. >> Okay, so everybody knows 2008. >> Okay, so everybody knows 2008. >> But 2008 was just when people panicked. >> But 2008 was just when people panicked. >> But 2008 was just when people panicked. 2006 was when people really started 2006 was when people really started 2006 was when people really started realizing, wait a second, the structure realizing, wait a second, the structure realizing, wait a second, the structure of all of this debt no longer makes of all of this debt no longer makes of all of this debt no longer makes sense because what what happened was sense because what what happened was sense because what what happened was people were buying the 2 and 28 thing. people were buying the 2 and 28 thing. people were buying the 2 and 28 thing. >> So you would buy a loan and you would >> So you would buy a loan and you would >> So you would buy a loan and you would pay like a really small amount for two pay like a really small amount for two pay like a really small amount for two years and then if you kept that loan you years and then if you kept that loan you years and then if you kept that loan you pay a huge amount for 28 years and pay a huge amount for 28 years and pay a huge amount for 28 years and obviously it was nonsensical. Everybody obviously it was nonsensical. Everybody obviously it was nonsensical. Everybody was going to get foreclosed upon. The was going to get foreclosed upon. The was going to get foreclosed upon. The reason that they were able to do that reason that they were able to do that reason that they were able to do that was housing prices were going up so fast was housing prices were going up so fast was housing prices were going up so fast that you could buy a house and then two that you could buy a house and then two that you could buy a house and then two years later be worth so much more that years later be worth so much more that years later be worth so much more that just the gap in the equity that you now just the gap in the equity that you now just the gap in the equity that you now had in the property would allow you to had in the property would allow you to had in the property would allow you to get a new loan and you'd be able to pay get a new loan and you'd be able to pay get a new loan and you'd be able to pay off the old loan and the fees and now off the old loan and the fees and now off the old loan and the fees and now you could have a reasonable mortgage. you could have a reasonable mortgage. you could have a reasonable mortgage. But you needed those two years for the But you needed those two years for the But you needed those two years for the property to go up in value. property to go up in value. property to go up in value. And in 2008, properties were like at And in 2008, properties were like at And in 2008, properties were like at all-time highs. Certainly were all-time all-time highs. Certainly were all-time all-time highs. Certainly were all-time highs in 2006. And so you couldn't look highs in 2006. And so you couldn't look highs in 2006. And so you couldn't look at the value just like you can't look at at the value just like you can't look at at the value just like you can't look at the value of today's stocks and go, we the value of today's stocks and go, we the value of today's stocks and go, we have a problem. have a problem. have a problem. >> What you have to look at is the rate at >> What you have to look at is the rate at >> What you have to look at is the rate at the increase in property values started the increase in property values started the increase in property values started going down. And by 2006ish, going down. And by 2006ish, going down. And by 2006ish, they were no longer able to get these they were no longer able to get these they were no longer able to get these big new loans. So in 2006, you start big new loans. So in 2006, you start big new loans. So in 2006, you start seeing people defaulting. So, all-time seeing people defaulting. So, all-time seeing people defaulting. So, all-time highs, everybody like you're hearing highs, everybody like you're hearing highs, everybody like you're hearing like, "Hey, this is all good." And I like, "Hey, this is all good." And I like, "Hey, this is all good." And I remember in 2007 remember in 2007 remember in 2007 being like, "Uh, because my wife was being like, "Uh, because my wife was being like, "Uh, because my wife was like, "But property value only goes up like, "But property value only goes up like, "But property value only goes up and we should buy." And I'm like, "I and we should buy." And I'm like, "I and we should buy." And I'm like, "I don't know. Like, something feels really don't know. Like, something feels really don't know. Like, something feels really off to me." Now, I didn't understand the off to me." Now, I didn't understand the off to me." Now, I didn't understand the economy well enough to have anything economy well enough to have anything economy well enough to have anything other than intuition, other than intuition, other than intuition, but I certainly had the intuition that but I certainly had the intuition that but I certainly had the intuition that something was wrong. And so, we ended up something was wrong. And so, we ended up something was wrong. And so, we ended up buying a residence, but we were going to buying a residence, but we were going to buying a residence, but we were going to buy an investment property, and I said, buy an investment property, and I said, buy an investment property, and I said, "No, no, no. I don't want to do this." "No, no, no. I don't want to do this." "No, no, no. I don't want to do this." And so we end up backing out in 2007, And so we end up backing out in 2007, And so we end up backing out in 2007, not moving forward with doing uh not moving forward with doing uh not moving forward with doing uh property as investments. Thank God, property as investments. Thank God, property as investments. Thank God, obviously, because of what happens in obviously, because of what happens in obviously, because of what happens in 2008. But that was like what I was 2008. But that was like what I was 2008. But that was like what I was picking up on was, oh, these are still picking up on was, oh, these are still picking up on was, oh, these are still all-time high numbers, which is what my all-time high numbers, which is what my all-time high numbers, which is what my wife was going off of. Yo, like they're wife was going off of. Yo, like they're wife was going off of. Yo, like they're worth more and more every month, worth more and more every month, worth more and more every month, >> but they were worth more and more at a >> but they were worth more and more at a >> but they were worth more and more at a decreasing rate. And that decreasing decreasing rate. And that decreasing decreasing rate. And that decreasing rate tells you something. And so if you rate tells you something. And so if you rate tells you something. And so if you look at AI, that becomes a question. Is look at AI, that becomes a question. Is look at AI, that becomes a question. Is this uh are the valuations going up at this uh are the valuations going up at this uh are the valuations going up at the same rate? are they starting to slow the same rate? are they starting to slow the same rate? are they starting to slow down? Um, looking for the person who down? Um, looking for the person who down? Um, looking for the person who gets rewarded, meaning they pull out of gets rewarded, meaning they pull out of gets rewarded, meaning they pull out of a major data center build and their a major data center build and their a major data center build and their stock price goes up. If you see that, stock price goes up. If you see that, stock price goes up. If you see that, that's probably a pretty important that's probably a pretty important that's probably a pretty important moment where that's telling you public moment where that's telling you public moment where that's telling you public sentiment is beginning to shift. I don't sentiment is beginning to shift. I don't sentiment is beginning to shift. I don't think we've seen that yet. Uh, but I'd think we've seen that yet. Uh, but I'd think we've seen that yet. Uh, but I'd be surprised if we don't see that in the be surprised if we don't see that in the be surprised if we don't see that in the coming 12 to 36 months. coming 12 to 36 months. coming 12 to 36 months. >> Uh, we can't talk about the economy >> Uh, we can't talk about the economy >> Uh, we can't talk about the economy without the generational run that Trump without the generational run that Trump without the generational run that Trump is on right now. Uh, I'm not a I told is on right now. Uh, I'm not a I told is on right now. Uh, I'm not a I told you so type person. That's not my ethos. you so type person. That's not my ethos. you so type person. That's not my ethos. I'm not bringing this up to say that. I'm not bringing this up to say that. I'm not bringing this up to say that. >> But we started this election that Trump >> But we started this election that Trump >> But we started this election that Trump was going to be better for the deficit. was going to be better for the deficit. was going to be better for the deficit. >> But there is now a 35% chance that the >> But there is now a 35% chance that the >> But there is now a 35% chance that the national debt could hit 50 trillion by national debt could hit 50 trillion by national debt could hit 50 trillion by 2028 before the end of Trump's current 2028 before the end of Trump's current 2028 before the end of Trump's current term. term. term. >> If that happens, Trump will solely be >> If that happens, Trump will solely be >> If that happens, Trump will solely be responsible for adding approximately 43% responsible for adding approximately 43% responsible for adding approximately 43% of the total US debt across these two of the total US debt across these two of the total US debt across these two terms. I don't know how he got the terms. I don't know how he got the terms. I don't know how he got the moniker that he's going to be better for moniker that he's going to be better for moniker that he's going to be better for the deficit, but Trump one was, oh, it the deficit, but Trump one was, oh, it the deficit, but Trump one was, oh, it was CO, but I would have been fiscally was CO, but I would have been fiscally was CO, but I would have been fiscally responsible. But CO messed it up. Yeah. responsible. But CO messed it up. Yeah. responsible. But CO messed it up. Yeah. >> And now Trump, too, it's like print, >> And now Trump, too, it's like print, >> And now Trump, too, it's like print, baby, print. baby, print. baby, print. >> Here's the bad news. Everybody's going >> Here's the bad news. Everybody's going >> Here's the bad news. Everybody's going to be print baby print. No one is going to be print baby print. No one is going to be print baby print. No one is going to um actually be fiscally responsible. to um actually be fiscally responsible. to um actually be fiscally responsible. Um Um Um >> rates of acceleration don't matter as as >> rates of acceleration don't matter as as >> rates of acceleration don't matter as as long as you're going over the limit. long as you're going over the limit. long as you're going over the limit. Bat, it doesn't matter if you're going Bat, it doesn't matter if you're going Bat, it doesn't matter if you're going over the limit at twice the rate. over the limit at twice the rate. over the limit at twice the rate. >> No. If you're slowing down, that's >> No. If you're slowing down, that's >> No. If you're slowing down, that's certainly better. And if you're speeding certainly better. And if you're speeding certainly better. And if you're speeding up, that's certainly worse. Um, but we up, that's certainly worse. Um, but we up, that's certainly worse. Um, but we are in a populist moment and nobody is are in a populist moment and nobody is are in a populist moment and nobody is going to say that we're going to spend going to say that we're going to spend going to say that we're going to spend less. Um, your only hope is that less. Um, your only hope is that less. Um, your only hope is that something breaks that's painful enough something breaks that's painful enough something breaks that's painful enough that people are hurting enough, but you that people are hurting enough, but you that people are hurting enough, but you haven't had total collapse yet that they haven't had total collapse yet that they haven't had total collapse yet that they say, "Okay, no, for real, now we're say, "Okay, no, for real, now we're say, "Okay, no, for real, now we're going to vote somebody in that's going to vote somebody in that's going to vote somebody in that's actually going to balance the budget." actually going to balance the budget." actually going to balance the budget." Um, but that's going to be a tough cell. Um, but that's going to be a tough cell. Um, but that's going to be a tough cell. Uh, that cell is certainly not going to Uh, that cell is certainly not going to Uh, that cell is certainly not going to be Trump at this point. So, also he be Trump at this point. So, also he be Trump at this point. So, also he tried doing things that were fiscally tried doing things that were fiscally tried doing things that were fiscally irresponsible and it didn't work. irresponsible and it didn't work. irresponsible and it didn't work. Meaning that um he comes in, starts Meaning that um he comes in, starts Meaning that um he comes in, starts doing Doge, Tesla dealerships are doing Doge, Tesla dealerships are doing Doge, Tesla dealerships are getting firebombed, it's becoming just a getting firebombed, it's becoming just a getting firebombed, it's becoming just a an absolute political liability. Then he an absolute political liability. Then he an absolute political liability. Then he realizes, okay, hold on a second. Um I realizes, okay, hold on a second. Um I realizes, okay, hold on a second. Um I can promise free things as well. can promise free things as well. can promise free things as well. Increase the likelihood that I get Increase the likelihood that I get Increase the likelihood that I get elected. And so all the things that I elected. And so all the things that I elected. And so all the things that I want, I'm going to put in the big want, I'm going to put in the big want, I'm going to put in the big beautiful bill and I'm just going to beautiful bill and I'm just going to beautiful bill and I'm just going to say, well, these dummies won't reduce say, well, these dummies won't reduce say, well, these dummies won't reduce the spending on the bad things. And so the spending on the bad things. And so the spending on the bad things. And so it's like, yeah, you can expect that to it's like, yeah, you can expect that to it's like, yeah, you can expect that to be the thing. Like the stuff I'm be the thing. Like the stuff I'm be the thing. Like the stuff I'm spending money on, whether I'm the one spending money on, whether I'm the one spending money on, whether I'm the one that's going for health care or preK or that's going for health care or preK or that's going for health care or preK or whatever for everybody, that's the right whatever for everybody, that's the right whatever for everybody, that's the right thing. It's just the military's dumb. Or thing. It's just the military's dumb. Or thing. It's just the military's dumb. Or the military that makes sense. Like the military that makes sense. Like the military that makes sense. Like we're at war. We're we've got this we're at war. We're we've got this we're at war. We're we've got this whole thing with China, but like uh all whole thing with China, but like uh all whole thing with China, but like uh all of the the fraud and stuff, that's the of the the fraud and stuff, that's the of the the fraud and stuff, that's the dumb like we got to stop doing dumb like we got to stop doing dumb like we got to stop doing that. And it's like no, no, no. The that. And it's like no, no, no. The that. And it's like no, no, no. The fraud is dumb. Um overspending on fraud is dumb. Um overspending on fraud is dumb. Um overspending on military is dumb. Like we've got to military is dumb. Like we've got to military is dumb. Like we've got to balance the budget and then say balance the budget and then say balance the budget and then say what are the important things that what are the important things that what are the important things that within that budget we're actually going within that budget we're actually going within that budget we're actually going to pay for. Um instead of my to pay for. Um instead of my to pay for. Um instead of my constituents are going to get their free constituents are going to get their free constituents are going to get their free Uh just not your constituents. Uh just not your constituents. Uh just not your constituents. >> Unfortunately, that's where it seems we >> Unfortunately, that's where it seems we >> Unfortunately, that's where it seems we are at. are at. are at. >> That is where we're at. The only >> That is where we're at. The only >> That is where we're at. The only question is what happens in 2028. How question is what happens in 2028. How question is what happens in 2028. How much economic pain and suffering will much economic pain and suffering will much economic pain and suffering will there be between now and then such that there be between now and then such that there be between now and then such that people change their minds? That's why I people change their minds? That's why I people change their minds? That's why I need to see what happens at the need to see what happens at the need to see what happens at the midterms. If we start seeing Franchesca midterms. If we start seeing Franchesca midterms. If we start seeing Franchesca Hong getting elected, if uh when these Hong getting elected, if uh when these Hong getting elected, if uh when these guys that have won their primaries guys that have won their primaries guys that have won their primaries actually go up against Republicans and actually go up against Republicans and actually go up against Republicans and they win, like if the DSA actually gets they win, like if the DSA actually gets they win, like if the DSA actually gets elected, dude, that is really terrifying elected, dude, that is really terrifying elected, dude, that is really terrifying because you want to talk about an because you want to talk about an because you want to talk about an accelerating rate of bad, that is way accelerating rate of bad, that is way accelerating rate of bad, that is way worse than what we have now. Yeah. Um, worse than what we have now. Yeah. Um, worse than what we have now. Yeah. Um, in positive news, David Sinclair said AI in positive news, David Sinclair said AI in positive news, David Sinclair said AI is making massive gains in the terms of is making massive gains in the terms of is making massive gains in the terms of biological work that it can do. This was biological work that it can do. This was biological work that it can do. This was him on Rogan. him on Rogan. him on Rogan. >> Look at what it's done with mathematics. >> Look at what it's done with mathematics. >> Look at what it's done with mathematics. Like just over the last couple weeks, Like just over the last couple weeks, Like just over the last couple weeks, they've solved more than 50 program or they've solved more than 50 program or they've solved more than 50 program or 50 mathematical equations that they have 50 mathematical equations that they have 50 mathematical equations that they have struggled for decade upon decade to try struggled for decade upon decade to try struggled for decade upon decade to try to solve. And AI is like, "Oh, I got to solve. And AI is like, "Oh, I got to solve. And AI is like, "Oh, I got it." it." it." >> Yeah. Well, biology is a little bit more >> Yeah. Well, biology is a little bit more >> Yeah. Well, biology is a little bit more complicated, but already AI is doing a complicated, but already AI is doing a complicated, but already AI is doing a lot of the science that we used to do in lot of the science that we used to do in lot of the science that we used to do in my lab. Uh, in fact, what we just my lab. Uh, in fact, what we just my lab. Uh, in fact, what we just recently did it in a couple of months recently did it in a couple of months recently did it in a couple of months would have taken about 160 years to would have taken about 160 years to would have taken about 160 years to complete. complete. complete. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> And it's only getting faster. >> And it's only getting faster. >> And it's only getting faster. Eventually, someone can make a drug on Eventually, someone can make a drug on Eventually, someone can make a drug on their phone. their phone. their phone. >> Say that again. >> Say that again. >> Say that again. >> 2 months instead of 160 years. >> 2 months instead of 160 years. >> 2 months instead of 160 years. >> Well, what exactly was it that you had >> Well, what exactly was it that you had >> Well, what exactly was it that you had to do? to do? to do? >> Oh, so this drink and the the pill that >> Oh, so this drink and the the pill that >> Oh, so this drink and the the pill that we're looking for, that's not easy, we're looking for, that's not easy, we're looking for, that's not easy, right? So, we have some candidate right? So, we have some candidate right? So, we have some candidate molecules. We have a cocktail that molecules. We have a cocktail that molecules. We have a cocktail that works, but we want to see works, but we want to see works, but we want to see >> you taking this stuff. >> you taking this stuff. >> you taking this stuff. >> Not yet. >> Not yet. >> Not yet. >> You're thinking about it. >> You're thinking about it. >> You're thinking about it. >> It's probably wise. >> It's probably wise. >> It's probably wise. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No one could stop you. >> No one could stop you. >> No one could stop you. >> I might. Well, that is true. >> I might. Well, that is true. >> I might. Well, that is true. >> But it' be a bad look if I died. So >> But it' be a bad look if I died. So >> But it' be a bad look if I died. So maybe I'll maybe I'll maybe I'll >> You're not going to die. >> You're not going to die. >> You're not going to die. >> I don't think so. We've done a lot of >> I don't think so. We've done a lot of >> I don't think so. We've done a lot of safety tests and it looks really safe. safety tests and it looks really safe. safety tests and it looks really safe. >> But I I'm not going to publicly do >> But I I'm not going to publicly do >> But I I'm not going to publicly do anything against the law. anything against the law. anything against the law. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> So here's the thing. I've got to I'm not >> So here's the thing. I've got to I'm not >> So here's the thing. I've got to I'm not going to publicly do anything against going to publicly do anything against going to publicly do anything against the law. That's a hilarious caveat. Uh I the law. That's a hilarious caveat. Uh I the law. That's a hilarious caveat. Uh I have to say David Sinclair in person have to say David Sinclair in person have to say David Sinclair in person looks young as hell. Like it it is looks young as hell. Like it it is looks young as hell. Like it it is startling. Yeah. How old he actually is. startling. Yeah. How old he actually is. startling. Yeah. How old he actually is. Um so Um so Um so this is there is a fascinating thing this is there is a fascinating thing this is there is a fascinating thing happening in the world of AI. People are happening in the world of AI. People are happening in the world of AI. People are afraid of it and for reasons I afraid of it and for reasons I afraid of it and for reasons I completely understand but people are completely understand but people are completely understand but people are afraid of it and therefore they try to afraid of it and therefore they try to afraid of it and therefore they try to pretend like it well it hasn't really pretend like it well it hasn't really pretend like it well it hasn't really done anything and AI's just stalled out done anything and AI's just stalled out done anything and AI's just stalled out and I don't know uh why people are and I don't know uh why people are and I don't know uh why people are overhyping this. You have to separate overhyping this. You have to separate overhyping this. You have to separate the financial side of this from the the financial side of this from the the financial side of this from the future benefit to humanity. The future benefit to humanity. The future benefit to humanity. The financial side is they're in real financial side is they're in real financial side is they're in real trouble. We're making this huge bet. Um trouble. We're making this huge bet. Um trouble. We're making this huge bet. Um AI can probably be done a lot cheaper AI can probably be done a lot cheaper AI can probably be done a lot cheaper than some of the massive investments than some of the massive investments than some of the massive investments that we're making. Revenues coming into that we're making. Revenues coming into that we're making. Revenues coming into these companies a lot more slowly than these companies a lot more slowly than these companies a lot more slowly than they expected it. But AI is doing they expected it. But AI is doing they expected it. But AI is doing extraordinary things. And this is one of extraordinary things. And this is one of extraordinary things. And this is one of the just understanding the rate at which the just understanding the rate at which the just understanding the rate at which AI can process data and the fact that AI can process data and the fact that AI can process data and the fact that you can replicate it over and over and you can replicate it over and over and you can replicate it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. So part of the reason that it's over. So part of the reason that it's over. So part of the reason that it's doing 160 years in a couple of months doing 160 years in a couple of months doing 160 years in a couple of months isn't that it's necessarily a better isn't that it's necessarily a better isn't that it's necessarily a better thinker. It's that you can create so thinker. It's that you can create so thinker. It's that you can create so many copies of it. So if your lab can many copies of it. So if your lab can many copies of it. So if your lab can afford to replicate um an AI brain, afford to replicate um an AI brain, afford to replicate um an AI brain, let's say a thousand times over, but you let's say a thousand times over, but you let's say a thousand times over, but you can only have 20 people um in the lab, can only have 20 people um in the lab, can only have 20 people um in the lab, even if AI is slightly slower at the even if AI is slightly slower at the even if AI is slightly slower at the thinking, it's going to run 24/7. It's thinking, it's going to run 24/7. It's thinking, it's going to run 24/7. It's going to uh be able to detect patterns going to uh be able to detect patterns going to uh be able to detect patterns that otherwise you wouldn't be able to that otherwise you wouldn't be able to that otherwise you wouldn't be able to detect because it can hold so much more detect because it can hold so much more detect because it can hold so much more information in its head. It's educated information in its head. It's educated information in its head. It's educated on everything that's ever been um on everything that's ever been um on everything that's ever been um learned and put on the internet by learned and put on the internet by learned and put on the internet by humans. Uh and when one of it learns humans. Uh and when one of it learns humans. Uh and when one of it learns something, it can teach the others. And something, it can teach the others. And something, it can teach the others. And so now the rate at which it learns so now the rate at which it learns so now the rate at which it learns becomes accelerated so massively. And I becomes accelerated so massively. And I becomes accelerated so massively. And I think health is really going to be the think health is really going to be the think health is really going to be the area where people start having their area where people start having their area where people start having their mind blown in such a profound way mind blown in such a profound way mind blown in such a profound way because remember years ago it was able because remember years ago it was able because remember years ago it was able to solve the protein folding problem. to solve the protein folding problem. to solve the protein folding problem. And so it's able to predict uh this And so it's able to predict uh this And so it's able to predict uh this novel folding of the protein will yield novel folding of the protein will yield novel folding of the protein will yield this outcome and just helping with drug this outcome and just helping with drug this outcome and just helping with drug discovery um synthetic testing things discovery um synthetic testing things discovery um synthetic testing things like that is going to be absolutely like that is going to be absolutely like that is going to be absolutely massive and so over the next 5 to 10 massive and so over the next 5 to 10 massive and so over the next 5 to 10 years you can expect this stuff to start years you can expect this stuff to start years you can expect this stuff to start coming out on mass and so wildly coming out on mass and so wildly coming out on mass and so wildly accelerating the rate at which we get accelerating the rate at which we get accelerating the rate at which we get these biological breakthroughs and the these biological breakthroughs and the these biological breakthroughs and the fact it's interesting hearing Sinclair fact it's interesting hearing Sinclair fact it's interesting hearing Sinclair sort of temper Joe by saying biology is sort of temper Joe by saying biology is sort of temper Joe by saying biology is a lot more complicated but that's why AI a lot more complicated but that's why AI a lot more complicated but that's why AI interfacing with biology is going to be interfacing with biology is going to be interfacing with biology is going to be far more interesting than um just it far more interesting than um just it far more interesting than um just it being able to um do things in being able to um do things in being able to um do things in mathematics. So I think there are going mathematics. So I think there are going mathematics. So I think there are going to be some pretty profound things that to be some pretty profound things that to be some pretty profound things that come out of these um long-standing math come out of these um long-standing math come out of these um long-standing math problems being able to be solved. It'll problems being able to be solved. It'll problems being able to be solved. It'll have implications in algorithms and have implications in algorithms and have implications in algorithms and things like that which will be uh I things like that which will be uh I things like that which will be uh I think very transformative. think very transformative. think very transformative. But what you're going to see in the But what you're going to see in the But what you're going to see in the ability to recognize patterns, pull them ability to recognize patterns, pull them ability to recognize patterns, pull them together, draw conclusions that become a together, draw conclusions that become a together, draw conclusions that become a tangible thing, either a process, a tangible thing, either a process, a tangible thing, either a process, a drug, um a procedure, things like that drug, um a procedure, things like that drug, um a procedure, things like that in medicine, I think is going to be very in medicine, I think is going to be very in medicine, I think is going to be very profound because right now a lot of profound because right now a lot of profound because right now a lot of things that we have work, but we don't things that we have work, but we don't things that we have work, but we don't know why it works. And so now imagine AI know why it works. And so now imagine AI know why it works. And so now imagine AI being able to tell you it's the being able to tell you it's the being able to tell you it's the interaction of these nine genes with interaction of these nine genes with interaction of these nine genes with these three um drugs in this particular these three um drugs in this particular these three um drugs in this particular sequence. it will be able to find those sequence. it will be able to find those sequence. it will be able to find those patterns. We have vast stores of data. patterns. We have vast stores of data. patterns. We have vast stores of data. And so if on the medical side we can get And so if on the medical side we can get And so if on the medical side we can get all of that freed up uh so that the AIs all of that freed up uh so that the AIs all of that freed up uh so that the AIs can train on it, I think more and more can train on it, I think more and more can train on it, I think more and more people will say, "Yes, use my data. I people will say, "Yes, use my data. I people will say, "Yes, use my data. I want the AI to get smarter." And so all want the AI to get smarter." And so all want the AI to get smarter." And so all of that stuff is going to start to allow of that stuff is going to start to allow of that stuff is going to start to allow us to have breakthroughs at a rate that us to have breakthroughs at a rate that us to have breakthroughs at a rate that that we're just not used to. And even if that we're just not used to. And even if that we're just not used to. And even if that doesn't happen and it's only that doesn't happen and it's only that doesn't happen and it's only relegated to the labs, you're seeing relegated to the labs, you're seeing relegated to the labs, you're seeing that the labs are able to um do in two that the labs are able to um do in two that the labs are able to um do in two months what they have historically it months what they have historically it months what they have historically it would have taken them you know 100 plus would have taken them you know 100 plus would have taken them you know 100 plus years. It's like that stuff starts to years. It's like that stuff starts to years. It's like that stuff starts to compound because it's not one lab, it's compound because it's not one lab, it's compound because it's not one lab, it's thousands of labs. And so you start thousands of labs. And so you start thousands of labs. And so you start going okay a thousand labs can do in two going okay a thousand labs can do in two going okay a thousand labs can do in two months what it would have taken them 160 months what it would have taken them 160 months what it would have taken them 160 years to do previously. Now all of a years to do previously. Now all of a years to do previously. Now all of a sudden it's like it the compounding sudden it's like it the compounding sudden it's like it the compounding acceleration is staggering. acceleration is staggering. acceleration is staggering. >> This was always supposed to be the >> This was always supposed to be the >> This was always supposed to be the promise of AI though. The 24hour humans promise of AI though. The 24hour humans promise of AI though. The 24hour humans that don't sleep, don't need rest, are that don't sleep, don't need rest, are that don't sleep, don't need rest, are constantly researching, constantly constantly researching, constantly constantly researching, constantly scanning the internet, constantly scanning the internet, constantly scanning the internet, constantly looking through things. So where a human looking through things. So where a human looking through things. So where a human can do eight hours on a good day of can do eight hours on a good day of can do eight hours on a good day of straight up researching, this thing can straight up researching, this thing can straight up researching, this thing can do 24 hours 247 and you can stack at do 24 hours 247 and you can stack at do 24 hours 247 and you can stack at times 75. Not to mention tie other times 75. Not to mention tie other times 75. Not to mention tie other models or use other uh Frontier models models or use other uh Frontier models models or use other uh Frontier models against each other then stack it on top against each other then stack it on top against each other then stack it on top of that. So of that. So of that. So >> yes, dude, it's so crazy because I use >> yes, dude, it's so crazy because I use >> yes, dude, it's so crazy because I use this in a gaming context. I'm so every this in a gaming context. I'm so every this in a gaming context. I'm so every day I'm confronted with the new thing day I'm confronted with the new thing day I'm confronted with the new thing that we were able to do. Um so for that we were able to do. Um so for that we were able to do. Um so for instance, I the guy that's doing our instance, I the guy that's doing our instance, I the guy that's doing our procedural world generation, he has no procedural world generation, he has no procedural world generation, he has no 3D talent whatsoever and he has no um 3D talent whatsoever and he has no um 3D talent whatsoever and he has no um programming ability. So, he's very good programming ability. So, he's very good programming ability. So, he's very good at there's certain software that allows at there's certain software that allows at there's certain software that allows you to go in and adjust all these you to go in and adjust all these you to go in and adjust all these variables and he's incredibly good at variables and he's incredibly good at variables and he's incredibly good at mapping that out and how do you turn mapping that out and how do you turn mapping that out and how do you turn that into a world? What he's done is that into a world? What he's done is that into a world? What he's done is extraordinary. I love this kid. Uh, but extraordinary. I love this kid. Uh, but extraordinary. I love this kid. Uh, but the other day he was like, "Oh, hey, um, the other day he was like, "Oh, hey, um, the other day he was like, "Oh, hey, um, I needed to create some 3D assets, so I I needed to create some 3D assets, so I I needed to create some 3D assets, so I built a 3D pipeline, uh, and now I can built a 3D pipeline, uh, and now I can built a 3D pipeline, uh, and now I can output my own 3D assets." And so, I'm output my own 3D assets." And so, I'm output my own 3D assets." And so, I'm just doing all this like procedural just doing all this like procedural just doing all this like procedural generation of world asset, all this. And generation of world asset, all this. And generation of world asset, all this. And he showed me what he did, and I was he showed me what he did, and I was he showed me what he did, and I was like, it was literally just him. we have like, it was literally just him. we have like, it was literally just him. we have a 3D department, but he knew that they a 3D department, but he knew that they a 3D department, but he knew that they were tasked with other things, so he were tasked with other things, so he were tasked with other things, so he wasn't going to be able to assign it to wasn't going to be able to assign it to wasn't going to be able to assign it to them, but he needed something to explain them, but he needed something to explain them, but he needed something to explain the vision of what he's trying to build. the vision of what he's trying to build. the vision of what he's trying to build. I was like, "Holy I was like, "Holy I was like, "Holy >> insane." And then he can't program, but >> insane." And then he can't program, but >> insane." And then he can't program, but I wanted a particular look for our lava. I wanted a particular look for our lava. I wanted a particular look for our lava. And so he's like, "Oh, hey, I had Claude And so he's like, "Oh, hey, I had Claude And so he's like, "Oh, hey, I had Claude code the lava." And I was like, "What code the lava." And I was like, "What code the lava." And I was like, "What the?" So this is a guy that does not the?" So this is a guy that does not the?" So this is a guy that does not know how to code. So he just describes, know how to code. So he just describes, know how to code. So he just describes, "I want the lava to look like this, to "I want the lava to look like this, to "I want the lava to look like this, to flow like this, to act like this." And flow like this, to act like this." And flow like this, to act like this." And it's just like, "Yeah, say less, fam." it's just like, "Yeah, say less, fam." it's just like, "Yeah, say less, fam." and it just goes and does that while and it just goes and does that while and it just goes and does that while he's overworking on something else. he's overworking on something else. he's overworking on something else. Dude, it's so wild. And so the only Dude, it's so wild. And so the only Dude, it's so wild. And so the only people that are really trying to like people that are really trying to like people that are really trying to like dismiss this are getting caught up in dismiss this are getting caught up in dismiss this are getting caught up in these dumb debates about whether these dumb debates about whether these dumb debates about whether somebody that uses AI for scripting has somebody that uses AI for scripting has somebody that uses AI for scripting has the like AI verbal ticks and all that, the like AI verbal ticks and all that, the like AI verbal ticks and all that, but it's like does the person understand but it's like does the person understand but it's like does the person understand the thing that they're learning, verbal the thing that they're learning, verbal the thing that they're learning, verbal ticks or not, if they now understand ticks or not, if they now understand ticks or not, if they now understand something they wouldn't have been able something they wouldn't have been able something they wouldn't have been able to understand because AI acts like the to understand because AI acts like the to understand because AI acts like the smartest friend you've ever had that you smartest friend you've ever had that you smartest friend you've ever had that you can talk to at any time with any can talk to at any time with any can talk to at any time with any question and they have an answer is question and they have an answer is question and they have an answer is insane. and then all of the other places insane. and then all of the other places insane. and then all of the other places that it's being used. And so if people that it's being used. And so if people that it's being used. And so if people are anti- AI, they're going to gravitate are anti- AI, they're going to gravitate are anti- AI, they're going to gravitate to where the AI falls down. And AI does to where the AI falls down. And AI does to where the AI falls down. And AI does fall down and there are things it can't fall down and there are things it can't fall down and there are things it can't do. And there's more things that it do. And there's more things that it do. And there's more things that it sucks at than it's good at. But the sucks at than it's good at. But the sucks at than it's good at. But the things that it's good at, it gives you things that it's good at, it gives you things that it's good at, it gives you that ability. Like you instantly can that ability. Like you instantly can that ability. Like you instantly can code the things that it can code. And code the things that it can code. And code the things that it can code. And that is insane. We've never seen that is insane. We've never seen that is insane. We've never seen anything like this before. anything like this before. anything like this before. >> Yeah. It's wild to me. I'm very sad for >> Yeah. It's wild to me. I'm very sad for >> Yeah. It's wild to me. I'm very sad for people that want to dismiss it. I'm people that want to dismiss it. I'm people that want to dismiss it. I'm like, listen, embrace it. Use it. find like, listen, embrace it. Use it. find like, listen, embrace it. Use it. find out what it's good at, what it will out what it's good at, what it will out what it's good at, what it will accelerate you because it will make accelerate you because it will make accelerate you because it will make things possible for you that as of right things possible for you that as of right things possible for you that as of right now, if you're not using AI, it's just now, if you're not using AI, it's just now, if you're not using AI, it's just not possible. So, it it's like, let's not possible. So, it it's like, let's not possible. So, it it's like, let's say it's a low-level superhero say it's a low-level superhero say it's a low-level superhero experience. You go from I don't have experience. You go from I don't have experience. You go from I don't have this power to code a website, just to this power to code a website, just to this power to code a website, just to make it really stupid. make it really stupid. make it really stupid. >> I don't have the ability to code a >> I don't have the ability to code a >> I don't have the ability to code a website. If I want a website, I must pay website. If I want a website, I must pay website. If I want a website, I must pay someone or buy one off the rack to I can someone or buy one off the rack to I can someone or buy one off the rack to I can code a website. Now, that might be code a website. Now, that might be code a website. Now, that might be low-level superhero but that's low-level superhero but that's low-level superhero but that's still like being jacked into the Matrix still like being jacked into the Matrix still like being jacked into the Matrix and being like, I now know kung fu. I and being like, I now know kung fu. I and being like, I now know kung fu. I now know web coding. I can now code, in now know web coding. I can now code, in now know web coding. I can now code, in our case, Lava. I can make 3D objects. our case, Lava. I can make 3D objects. our case, Lava. I can make 3D objects. Like, you now have that ability. It is Like, you now have that ability. It is Like, you now have that ability. It is crazy, man. crazy, man. crazy, man. >> It's I would say cuz uh Zorans, I think >> It's I would say cuz uh Zorans, I think >> It's I would say cuz uh Zorans, I think I pronounced your name right in the I pronounced your name right in the I pronounced your name right in the chat. He kind of flagged it. I think chat. He kind of flagged it. I think chat. He kind of flagged it. I think what what the problem with AI is the what what the problem with AI is the what what the problem with AI is the initial promises um it was Elon Money's initial promises um it was Elon Money's initial promises um it was Elon Money's going to be abundant. We're going to going to be abundant. We're going to going to be abundant. We're going to have robots everywhere. There's going to have robots everywhere. There's going to have robots everywhere. There's going to be more robots and cell phones. be more robots and cell phones. be more robots and cell phones. Everybody's going to be robbotting and Everybody's going to be robbotting and Everybody's going to be robbotting and and they they eat the sun for free. and they they eat the sun for free. and they they eat the sun for free. That's the promises. So people kind of That's the promises. So people kind of That's the promises. So people kind of skipped over the LLMs. But when you to skipped over the LLMs. But when you to skipped over the LLMs. But when you to your point of just go to work right now, your point of just go to work right now, your point of just go to work right now, what do you do every day that sucks? what do you do every day that sucks? what do you do every day that sucks? What is the one problem that you have? What is the one problem that you have? What is the one problem that you have? Feed that into the LLM and then it can Feed that into the LLM and then it can Feed that into the LLM and then it can make you twice as productive. You know, make you twice as productive. You know, make you twice as productive. You know, it's the everyday smaller things that I it's the everyday smaller things that I it's the everyday smaller things that I think we skipped over because we wanted think we skipped over because we wanted think we skipped over because we wanted robot AI iroot future so bad that we're robot AI iroot future so bad that we're robot AI iroot future so bad that we're now discrediting these small incremental now discrediting these small incremental now discrediting these small incremental things that actually make a big things that actually make a big things that actually make a big difference when you like stack it up difference when you like stack it up difference when you like stack it up over a long period of time. over a long period of time. over a long period of time. >> Here you've got your finger on a really >> Here you've got your finger on a really >> Here you've got your finger on a really important problem of communicators and important problem of communicators and important problem of communicators and people that are being communicated to. people that are being communicated to. people that are being communicated to. >> Um I learned this lesson with um talking >> Um I learned this lesson with um talking >> Um I learned this lesson with um talking about Kaizen in the early days. So, in about Kaizen in the early days. So, in about Kaizen in the early days. So, in the early days, it was all vision. And the early days, it was all vision. And the early days, it was all vision. And so, I'd say, "Okay, here's ultimately so, I'd say, "Okay, here's ultimately so, I'd say, "Okay, here's ultimately where I want to take it." And I would be where I want to take it." And I would be where I want to take it." And I would be very careful and I would say, "This is very careful and I would say, "This is very careful and I would say, "This is not where we're at today. We're a long not where we're at today. We're a long not where we're at today. We're a long way from this, but this is like the way from this, but this is like the way from this, but this is like the 10-year vision. It will only happen in 10-year vision. It will only happen in 10-year vision. It will only happen in success, yada yada, but that's where I success, yada yada, but that's where I success, yada yada, but that's where I want to go." And people were like, "Oh, want to go." And people were like, "Oh, want to go." And people were like, "Oh, let me play it." And they expected my let me play it." And they expected my let me play it." And they expected my 10-year vision now. And I was like, but 10-year vision now. And I was like, but 10-year vision now. And I was like, but I said very clearly, that's 10 years I said very clearly, that's 10 years I said very clearly, that's 10 years from now. It's not where we're at today. from now. It's not where we're at today. from now. It's not where we're at today. So, I've now had to learn you have to So, I've now had to learn you have to So, I've now had to learn you have to communicate what you have now communicate what you have now communicate what you have now >> for people to like make contact with it >> for people to like make contact with it >> for people to like make contact with it and say, "Oh, it's good at this now and and say, "Oh, it's good at this now and and say, "Oh, it's good at this now and it sucks at this now." And yes, like if it sucks at this now." And yes, like if it sucks at this now." And yes, like if I put on my sci-fi hat writer, I can see I put on my sci-fi hat writer, I can see I put on my sci-fi hat writer, I can see where this is going and it is likely to where this is going and it is likely to where this is going and it is likely to be something like this and that will be be something like this and that will be be something like this and that will be very exciting. We will get there. But very exciting. We will get there. But very exciting. We will get there. But you might have to say, "Okay, those you might have to say, "Okay, those you might have to say, "Okay, those things that people talked about things that people talked about things that people talked about happening in three years, it's possible happening in three years, it's possible happening in three years, it's possible that's more like 30 years." But in 30 that's more like 30 years." But in 30 that's more like 30 years." But in 30 years, you're probably still going to be years, you're probably still going to be years, you're probably still going to be alive. So that means that crazy ass alive. So that means that crazy ass alive. So that means that crazy ass future that you're hearing about, it's future that you're hearing about, it's future that you're hearing about, it's going to happen in your lifetime. And by going to happen in your lifetime. And by going to happen in your lifetime. And by the way, it's not going to be nothing, the way, it's not going to be nothing, the way, it's not going to be nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, the nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, the nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, the 30-year mark. It's going to be every 30-year mark. It's going to be every 30-year mark. It's going to be every year, year, year, >> we're stepping closer and closer to >> we're stepping closer and closer to >> we're stepping closer and closer to that. Like most people don't think about that. Like most people don't think about that. Like most people don't think about the fact if I leave my house right now, the fact if I leave my house right now, the fact if I leave my house right now, I am guaranteed to encounter multiple I am guaranteed to encounter multiple I am guaranteed to encounter multiple robots out on the street. Multiple robots out on the street. Multiple robots out on the street. Multiple robots. So why is everybody saying that robots. So why is everybody saying that robots. So why is everybody saying that that robot future doesn't exist? I'm that robot future doesn't exist? I'm that robot future doesn't exist? I'm going to see those little delivery bots going to see those little delivery bots going to see those little delivery bots driving around guaranteed. For sure. You driving around guaranteed. For sure. You driving around guaranteed. For sure. You in West Hollywood, you see them all over in West Hollywood, you see them all over in West Hollywood, you see them all over the place. And then I'm going to see the place. And then I'm going to see the place. And then I'm going to see Whimos for sure. Those are both embodied Whimos for sure. Those are both embodied Whimos for sure. Those are both embodied robots right now. Now, how many people robots right now. Now, how many people robots right now. Now, how many people are going to see a drone as they go are going to see a drone as they go are going to see a drone as they go about their day? Probably a lot, about their day? Probably a lot, about their day? Probably a lot, especially in fire season, right? You're especially in fire season, right? You're especially in fire season, right? You're going to see the drones patrolling and going to see the drones patrolling and going to see the drones patrolling and stuff. Drones now patrol cities and look stuff. Drones now patrol cities and look stuff. Drones now patrol cities and look for crime and So, it's like kids, for crime and So, it's like kids, for crime and So, it's like kids, you're already living it. You just you're already living it. You just you're already living it. You just >> you're always projecting. Yeah. Yeah. >> you're always projecting. Yeah. Yeah. >> you're always projecting. Yeah. Yeah. the thing I have that's boring. Like I the thing I have that's boring. Like I the thing I have that's boring. Like I want to go to the crazy thing. Like I want to go to the crazy thing. Like I want to go to the crazy thing. Like I remember when um remember when um remember when um >> Amazon first started talking about we're >> Amazon first started talking about we're >> Amazon first started talking about we're going to deliver do deliveries by going to deliver do deliveries by going to deliver do deliveries by drones. That sounded so stupid to me. I drones. That sounded so stupid to me. I drones. That sounded so stupid to me. I was like bro come on. Like you guys have was like bro come on. Like you guys have was like bro come on. Like you guys have that much money that you're now talking that much money that you're now talking that much money that you're now talking about doing deliveries by drone. That's about doing deliveries by drone. That's about doing deliveries by drone. That's never going to happen. Of course now it never going to happen. Of course now it never going to happen. Of course now it happens. So it's you just step deeper happens. So it's you just step deeper happens. So it's you just step deeper into that water every day. A little bit into that water every day. A little bit into that water every day. A little bit a little bit. A little bit more. And so, a little bit. A little bit more. And so, a little bit. A little bit more. And so, um, brushing it off as if because we're um, brushing it off as if because we're um, brushing it off as if because we're not all the way there today, that it is not all the way there today, that it is not all the way there today, that it is not the future that is racing towards not the future that is racing towards not the future that is racing towards you like a supersonic train in Tokyo is you like a supersonic train in Tokyo is you like a supersonic train in Tokyo is dumb. It is racing towards you like a dumb. It is racing towards you like a dumb. It is racing towards you like a supersonic train. It will happen so fast supersonic train. It will happen so fast supersonic train. It will happen so fast that people's heads are going to spin. that people's heads are going to spin. that people's heads are going to spin. And so, yeah, be an early adopter. Get And so, yeah, be an early adopter. Get And so, yeah, be an early adopter. Get in, find where the edges are. Um, it in, find where the edges are. Um, it in, find where the edges are. Um, it does far less than you want it to and does far less than you want it to and does far less than you want it to and far more than most people realize. far more than most people realize. far more than most people realize. >> Yeah. Uh, cool. We got some super chats. >> Yeah. Uh, cool. We got some super chats. >> Yeah. Uh, cool. We got some super chats. >> Yes, we do. First up, Patrick Wrightson >> Yes, we do. First up, Patrick Wrightson >> Yes, we do. First up, Patrick Wrightson with a $50 super chat saying, with a $50 super chat saying, with a $50 super chat saying, >> "Oh, damn. Coming in hot." >> "Oh, damn. Coming in hot." >> "Oh, damn. Coming in hot." >> $50 super chat, Patrick. Good morning, >> $50 super chat, Patrick. Good morning, >> $50 super chat, Patrick. Good morning, fellas. Tom, not sure if you've seen fellas. Tom, not sure if you've seen fellas. Tom, not sure if you've seen some of the IRA noises coming out of some of the IRA noises coming out of some of the IRA noises coming out of Ireland, but it looks like whether you Ireland, but it looks like whether you Ireland, but it looks like whether you want to ascribe it to Christianity, the want to ascribe it to Christianity, the want to ascribe it to Christianity, the West, etc. Looks like that scary gear West, etc. Looks like that scary gear West, etc. Looks like that scary gear does indeed exist deep in there. does indeed exist deep in there. does indeed exist deep in there. >> Yeah. So, I didn't cover it today. it >> Yeah. So, I didn't cover it today. it >> Yeah. So, I didn't cover it today. it was on the list, but the more research I was on the list, but the more research I was on the list, but the more research I did, it's right now very hotly contested did, it's right now very hotly contested did, it's right now very hotly contested whether the new IRA actually made the whether the new IRA actually made the whether the new IRA actually made the claims that are being um attributed to claims that are being um attributed to claims that are being um attributed to it. But the claims that I've not been it. But the claims that I've not been it. But the claims that I've not been able to verify um are that the IRA has able to verify um are that the IRA has able to verify um are that the IRA has made a statement to the government made a statement to the government made a statement to the government saying if you don't get immigrants out saying if you don't get immigrants out saying if you don't get immigrants out of our country, we will start a civil of our country, we will start a civil of our country, we will start a civil war. Now, again, um that feels like war. Now, again, um that feels like war. Now, again, um that feels like hyperbole. We if we can get that backed hyperbole. We if we can get that backed hyperbole. We if we can get that backed up. I grew up during the IRA era so I up. I grew up during the IRA era so I up. I grew up during the IRA era so I know how often they were blowing things know how often they were blowing things know how often they were blowing things up. Uh so certainly the IRA of old was up. Uh so certainly the IRA of old was up. Uh so certainly the IRA of old was capable of that. Will the new IRA do capable of that. Will the new IRA do capable of that. Will the new IRA do that? I certainly hope not. Um but it is that? I certainly hope not. Um but it is that? I certainly hope not. Um but it is very possible. Now you want to talk very possible. Now you want to talk very possible. Now you want to talk about something that we may not be there about something that we may not be there about something that we may not be there yet but looking out into the future. yet but looking out into the future. yet but looking out into the future. um if you start researching the spread um if you start researching the spread um if you start researching the spread of Islam, you're going to run into um of Islam, you're going to run into um of Islam, you're going to run into um the Crusades, you're going to run into the Crusades, you're going to run into the Crusades, you're going to run into violent conquest. You're going to run violent conquest. You're going to run violent conquest. You're going to run into violent push back. Uh when you look into violent push back. Uh when you look into violent push back. Uh when you look at Spain's very interesting, uh you get at Spain's very interesting, uh you get at Spain's very interesting, uh you get two-way slaughtering. So, first the um two-way slaughtering. So, first the um two-way slaughtering. So, first the um the Muslims come in, they slaughter, the Muslims come in, they slaughter, the Muslims come in, they slaughter, they win, the Spaniards go up into the they win, the Spaniards go up into the they win, the Spaniards go up into the mountains, they spend hundreds of years mountains, they spend hundreds of years mountains, they spend hundreds of years repopulating, they come back down, they repopulating, they come back down, they repopulating, they come back down, they slaughter. uh and then there's sort of slaughter. uh and then there's sort of slaughter. uh and then there's sort of this brief equilibrium and then they this brief equilibrium and then they this brief equilibrium and then they realize that there's going to just be realize that there's going to just be realize that there's going to just be constant warfare. So they finally boot constant warfare. So they finally boot constant warfare. So they finally boot all Muslims out and look at what you all Muslims out and look at what you all Muslims out and look at what you know how um Islam spread initially and know how um Islam spread initially and know how um Islam spread initially and so ah like I would not expect whatever so ah like I would not expect whatever so ah like I would not expect whatever moment we live through um it's going to moment we live through um it's going to moment we live through um it's going to be on a continuum and religions tend not be on a continuum and religions tend not be on a continuum and religions tend not to go quietly and so yes you will have to go quietly and so yes you will have to go quietly and so yes you will have even if um Islam does end up becoming even if um Islam does end up becoming even if um Islam does end up becoming the dominant uh global religion and it's the dominant uh global religion and it's the dominant uh global religion and it's got strongholds in every country, which got strongholds in every country, which got strongholds in every country, which the more I look at it, the more I think the more I look at it, the more I think the more I look at it, the more I think that um Muslims are running a very that um Muslims are running a very that um Muslims are running a very brilliant strategy. If like imagine for brilliant strategy. If like imagine for brilliant strategy. If like imagine for a second that you really believe you a second that you really believe you a second that you really believe you represent the will of God and you love represent the will of God and you love represent the will of God and you love everybody and you want to see them all everybody and you want to see them all everybody and you want to see them all find their way into heaven, well, you've find their way into heaven, well, you've find their way into heaven, well, you've got to spread and you've got to go got to spread and you've got to go got to spread and you've got to go everywhere just as Christian everywhere just as Christian everywhere just as Christian missionaries went all over the place. missionaries went all over the place. missionaries went all over the place. And if you got in your back pocket that, And if you got in your back pocket that, And if you got in your back pocket that, hey, we try to do this in a really hey, we try to do this in a really hey, we try to do this in a really positive way. Um, but if you don't go positive way. Um, but if you don't go positive way. Um, but if you don't go for the positive, then we've got a few for the positive, then we've got a few for the positive, then we've got a few more tools in our toolkit. Um, it's a more tools in our toolkit. Um, it's a more tools in our toolkit. Um, it's a brilliant strategy. But I do fear that brilliant strategy. But I do fear that brilliant strategy. But I do fear that it is going to be met with violence. So, it is going to be met with violence. So, it is going to be met with violence. So, um, strap in. I don't know if it's us, um, strap in. I don't know if it's us, um, strap in. I don't know if it's us, if it's our kids, if it's our grandkids. if it's our kids, if it's our grandkids. if it's our kids, if it's our grandkids. Um, but yeah, Um, but yeah, Um, but yeah, things tend not to go quite History says things tend not to go quite History says things tend not to go quite History says there will be violence. I will just say there will be violence. I will just say there will be violence. I will just say it like that. So, we'll see what part of it like that. So, we'll see what part of it like that. So, we'll see what part of the continuum we're on. And the IRA may the continuum we're on. And the IRA may the continuum we're on. And the IRA may be the tip of the sword uh to answering be the tip of the sword uh to answering be the tip of the sword uh to answering that question. We'll see. I hope not. that question. We'll see. I hope not. that question. We'll see. I hope not. Boy, I don't want to see violence. So, Boy, I don't want to see violence. So, Boy, I don't want to see violence. So, we'll see. we'll see. we'll see. >> Dennis Brle says, "Hi, Tom and team. >> Dennis Brle says, "Hi, Tom and team. >> Dennis Brle says, "Hi, Tom and team. Thank you for the time, energy you're Thank you for the time, energy you're Thank you for the time, energy you're investing, following since day one of investing, following since day one of investing, following since day one of your lives. I feel deeply grateful for your lives. I feel deeply grateful for your lives. I feel deeply grateful for you guys helping me building my views of you guys helping me building my views of you guys helping me building my views of the world, mankind, and myself. the world, mankind, and myself. the world, mankind, and myself. >> Thank you, Dennis. Means a lot. >> Thank you, Dennis. Means a lot. >> Thank you, Dennis. Means a lot. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. >> Shout out to the day ones. We out here. >> Shout out to the day ones. We out here. >> Shout out to the day ones. We out here. >> No doubt. >> No doubt. >> No doubt. >> Next up. >> Next up. >> Next up. >> Oh, damn. That was I was like waiting >> Oh, damn. That was I was like waiting >> Oh, damn. That was I was like waiting then for the hard question. then for the hard question. then for the hard question. >> Uh as always, we are extraordinarily >> Uh as always, we are extraordinarily >> Uh as always, we are extraordinarily grateful for people who donate to uh grateful for people who donate to uh grateful for people who donate to uh this cause this cause this cause just to say something nice. Very just to say something nice. Very just to say something nice. Very generous. generous. generous. >> Voodoo Priest says, "This is as much for >> Voodoo Priest says, "This is as much for >> Voodoo Priest says, "This is as much for Drew and his crusade for housing. You Drew and his crusade for housing. You Drew and his crusade for housing. You need to check out Mitchell Vexler. The need to check out Mitchell Vexler. The need to check out Mitchell Vexler. The fraud in school systems colluding with fraud in school systems colluding with fraud in school systems colluding with property appraisers is uh to increase property appraisers is uh to increase property appraisers is uh to increase property taxes to issue new bonds property taxes to issue new bonds property taxes to issue new bonds against our homes. against our homes. against our homes. >> A I'm really going to hate that. >> A I'm really going to hate that. >> A I'm really going to hate that. >> Voodoo Priest again with 20. Thank you >> Voodoo Priest again with 20. Thank you >> Voodoo Priest again with 20. Thank you for the 40 total. for the 40 total. for the 40 total. >> Thank you, Voodoo Priest. >> Thank you, Voodoo Priest. >> Thank you, Voodoo Priest. >> Thank you, sir. Tom, I used AI to build >> Thank you, sir. Tom, I used AI to build >> Thank you, sir. Tom, I used AI to build an educational tool that stress tests an educational tool that stress tests an educational tool that stress tests your assets assets against 150 years of your assets assets against 150 years of your assets assets against 150 years of financial downturn. financial downturn. financial downturn. >> I know there is a market for this kind >> I know there is a market for this kind >> I know there is a market for this kind of tool. How do I get this in front of of tool. How do I get this in front of of tool. How do I get this in front of people? people? people? >> Okay, unfortunately the answer to this >> Okay, unfortunately the answer to this >> Okay, unfortunately the answer to this kind of thing is always social media. kind of thing is always social media. kind of thing is always social media. So, uh, social media is a version of the So, uh, social media is a version of the So, uh, social media is a version of the public square. Back in the day, you public square. Back in the day, you public square. Back in the day, you would go into the public square, you'd would go into the public square, you'd would go into the public square, you'd go to the marketplace, and you would go to the marketplace, and you would go to the marketplace, and you would literally hawk your wares. You would literally hawk your wares. You would literally hawk your wares. You would stand out front, you would carnival stand out front, you would carnival stand out front, you would carnival bark, you would get people in. Now, bark, you would get people in. Now, bark, you would get people in. Now, you've got to do it in social media. Uh, you've got to do it in social media. Uh, you've got to do it in social media. Uh, this is, by the way, exactly what I this is, by the way, exactly what I this is, by the way, exactly what I teach people how to do in Zero to teach people how to do in Zero to teach people how to do in Zero to Founder. Uh, but you're going to put out Founder. Uh, but you're going to put out Founder. Uh, but you're going to put out content that adds value to people's content that adds value to people's content that adds value to people's lives. Okay? So, you're going to tell lives. Okay? So, you're going to tell lives. Okay? So, you're going to tell them about it. Here's what my AI says, them about it. Here's what my AI says, them about it. Here's what my AI says, by the way. So, you're going to show by the way. So, you're going to show by the way. So, you're going to show them. They're going to be like, "Oh my them. They're going to be like, "Oh my them. They're going to be like, "Oh my god, that's insane." Then you're going god, that's insane." Then you're going god, that's insane." Then you're going to say, "You can go here. You can to say, "You can go here. You can to say, "You can go here. You can download it. you know, get a free trial, download it. you know, get a free trial, download it. you know, get a free trial, whatever. Uh, get people using it. They whatever. Uh, get people using it. They whatever. Uh, get people using it. They will see, holy hell, this is incredible. will see, holy hell, this is incredible. will see, holy hell, this is incredible. If you look at Steve Keen, he does this, If you look at Steve Keen, he does this, If you look at Steve Keen, he does this, right? He does all of his content right? He does all of his content right? He does all of his content telling people what to worry about, how telling people what to worry about, how telling people what to worry about, how the economy really works. And he's the economy really works. And he's the economy really works. And he's constantly showing you, here's my constantly showing you, here's my constantly showing you, here's my software. This is how it works. This is software. This is how it works. This is software. This is how it works. This is how it reveals what's really going on. how it reveals what's really going on. how it reveals what's really going on. By the way, um, you guys can get access By the way, um, you guys can get access By the way, um, you guys can get access to this. Go here, sign up. So, you just to this. Go here, sign up. So, you just to this. Go here, sign up. So, you just do that. You want to show people that it do that. You want to show people that it do that. You want to show people that it really works. You want to add value to really works. You want to add value to really works. You want to add value to their life and free content. And then their life and free content. And then their life and free content. And then the call to action at the end of the the call to action at the end of the the call to action at the end of the free content is the thing. This is free content is the thing. This is free content is the thing. This is exactly what we do. The live show is me exactly what we do. The live show is me exactly what we do. The live show is me showing you here's how I think through showing you here's how I think through showing you here's how I think through hard problems. And then we end like we hard problems. And then we end like we hard problems. And then we end like we will today by talking about the next AI will today by talking about the next AI will today by talking about the next AI master class. I'm going to walk you master class. I'm going to walk you master class. I'm going to walk you through how to do this. I'm going to through how to do this. I'm going to through how to do this. I'm going to teach people how to be entrepreneurs. teach people how to be entrepreneurs. teach people how to be entrepreneurs. And then you go, well, he is good at And then you go, well, he is good at And then you go, well, he is good at explaining all those things. Maybe he's explaining all those things. Maybe he's explaining all those things. Maybe he's just as good at explaining this. Now, if just as good at explaining this. Now, if just as good at explaining this. Now, if I were really trying to optimize for I were really trying to optimize for I were really trying to optimize for dollars, which is precisely what I dollars, which is precisely what I dollars, which is precisely what I recommend you do, the content that I recommend you do, the content that I recommend you do, the content that I would do would be just business. I find would do would be just business. I find would do would be just business. I find it very boring. Uh I don't want to just it very boring. Uh I don't want to just it very boring. Uh I don't want to just talk about that endlessly. So I want to talk about that endlessly. So I want to talk about that endlessly. So I want to talk about like really consequential talk about like really consequential talk about like really consequential issues in far broader set of topics. Um issues in far broader set of topics. Um issues in far broader set of topics. Um so I have what's called a broken line. so I have what's called a broken line. so I have what's called a broken line. You want to do a straight line of You want to do a straight line of You want to do a straight line of marketing. Uh that's a tangent for marketing. Uh that's a tangent for marketing. Uh that's a tangent for another day. Uh but just add value in another day. Uh but just add value in another day. Uh but just add value in the same way that you plan to sell the the same way that you plan to sell the the same way that you plan to sell the value later. value later. value later. >> Question. Right. Last week we were >> Question. Right. Last week we were >> Question. Right. Last week we were talking about physical products and you talking about physical products and you talking about physical products and you were saying you should always do a were saying you should always do a were saying you should always do a product market fit versus try to market product market fit versus try to market product market fit versus try to market cool So what's that line between I cool So what's that line between I cool So what's that line between I have this cool thing that I'm not have this cool thing that I'm not have this cool thing that I'm not necessarily sure the market wanted necessarily sure the market wanted necessarily sure the market wanted versus this is the way to straight like versus this is the way to straight like versus this is the way to straight like this is the way this is the way this is the way >> okay so product market fit is about um >> okay so product market fit is about um >> okay so product market fit is about um I'm selling something to people that I'm selling something to people that I'm selling something to people that already know they have the problem and already know they have the problem and already know they have the problem and they are desperate for a solution and so they are desperate for a solution and so they are desperate for a solution and so all I have to do is say hey I've solved all I have to do is say hey I've solved all I have to do is say hey I've solved that problem for you Imagine somebody that problem for you Imagine somebody that problem for you Imagine somebody goes oh I have health care it's the best goes oh I have health care it's the best goes oh I have health care it's the best health care on planet earth it's a$1.99 health care on planet earth it's a$1.99 health care on planet earth it's a$1.99 a year and you get access to literally a year and you get access to literally a year and you get access to literally the top stuff. We've had 40,000 people the top stuff. We've had 40,000 people the top stuff. We've had 40,000 people go through it. Not a single one of them go through it. Not a single one of them go through it. Not a single one of them has a dollar of debt and their average has a dollar of debt and their average has a dollar of debt and their average life expectancy has gone up by 5 years. life expectancy has gone up by 5 years. life expectancy has gone up by 5 years. You'd be like, "Bro, I need that. I'm You'd be like, "Bro, I need that. I'm You'd be like, "Bro, I need that. I'm going to sign up immediately." Now, going to sign up immediately." Now, going to sign up immediately." Now, that's obviously not a promise anyone that's obviously not a promise anyone that's obviously not a promise anyone can make, but that's an example of a can make, but that's an example of a can make, but that's an example of a problem people know they have. My problem people know they have. My problem people know they have. My healthcare sucks. I'm terrified of going healthcare sucks. I'm terrified of going healthcare sucks. I'm terrified of going into debt. Maybe I've got kids and I into debt. Maybe I've got kids and I into debt. Maybe I've got kids and I don't know what to do and I'm scared. don't know what to do and I'm scared. don't know what to do and I'm scared. And so, it's like, I've solved that And so, it's like, I've solved that And so, it's like, I've solved that problem and it's very cheap and I've got problem and it's very cheap and I've got problem and it's very cheap and I've got social proof, right? And so, it's like I social proof, right? And so, it's like I social proof, right? And so, it's like I just need to make people aware of it. just need to make people aware of it. just need to make people aware of it. So, you want to be in that position of So, you want to be in that position of So, you want to be in that position of it's too good to be true. That was where it's too good to be true. That was where it's too good to be true. That was where we were with Quest in the beginning. I we were with Quest in the beginning. I we were with Quest in the beginning. I could not give away a Quest bar for free could not give away a Quest bar for free could not give away a Quest bar for free to a bodybuilder when we first started to a bodybuilder when we first started to a bodybuilder when we first started because they all had all these beliefs because they all had all these beliefs because they all had all these beliefs about protein bars. So, they're like, about protein bars. So, they're like, about protein bars. So, they're like, "There's no way. I guarantee you guys "There's no way. I guarantee you guys "There's no way. I guarantee you guys are lying about something for sure are lying about something for sure are lying about something for sure because they'd been burned so many because they'd been burned so many because they'd been burned so many times." And so, it was really us being times." And so, it was really us being times." And so, it was really us being like, "Dude, take a bite of this. Take a like, "Dude, take a bite of this. Take a like, "Dude, take a bite of this. Take a glucose monitor and just look at the glucose monitor and just look at the glucose monitor and just look at the results. That's all you have to do. What results. That's all you have to do. What results. That's all you have to do. What does it taste like? What's your glucose does it taste like? What's your glucose does it taste like? What's your glucose response? Period. End of story. And so, response? Period. End of story. And so, response? Period. End of story. And so, but it took time to build that up. So, but it took time to build that up. So, but it took time to build that up. So, you want to be in that position. You you want to be in that position. You you want to be in that position. You know you have product market fit when know you have product market fit when know you have product market fit when people are like, "Yeah, right. That's people are like, "Yeah, right. That's people are like, "Yeah, right. That's too good to be true." And then you just too good to be true." And then you just too good to be true." And then you just have to be consistent, get it out there. have to be consistent, get it out there. have to be consistent, get it out there. When you don't have product market fit, When you don't have product market fit, When you don't have product market fit, like take Kaizen. Kaizen's a video game. like take Kaizen. Kaizen's a video game. like take Kaizen. Kaizen's a video game. There's so many video games out there. There's so many video games out there. There's so many video games out there. Nobody's like, "You know what I need, Nobody's like, "You know what I need, Nobody's like, "You know what I need, bro? I need a video game. There's just bro? I need a video game. There's just bro? I need a video game. There's just none." none." none." >> You might be able to say, "Oh, that kind >> You might be able to say, "Oh, that kind >> You might be able to say, "Oh, that kind of video game that you like, you've of video game that you like, you've of video game that you like, you've played through all of them. I'm the next played through all of them. I'm the next played through all of them. I'm the next one that you can play." but then they're one that you can play." but then they're one that you can play." but then they're going to play and move on. So, it's like going to play and move on. So, it's like going to play and move on. So, it's like entertainment is so hard because the entertainment is so hard because the entertainment is so hard because the problem you solve is boredom. They have problem you solve is boredom. They have problem you solve is boredom. They have endless opportunities to solve for endless opportunities to solve for endless opportunities to solve for boredom and so far more difficult. I'm boredom and so far more difficult. I'm boredom and so far more difficult. I'm at a point in my career where I can do at a point in my career where I can do at a point in my career where I can do this because I've been successful in an this because I've been successful in an this because I've been successful in an area where it was like find product area where it was like find product area where it was like find product market fit. People wanted something market fit. People wanted something market fit. People wanted something convenient that tasted like it had sugar convenient that tasted like it had sugar convenient that tasted like it had sugar but didn't. And so, we had to do the but didn't. And so, we had to do the but didn't. And so, we had to do the hard behind-the-scenes work to solve hard behind-the-scenes work to solve hard behind-the-scenes work to solve that problem in manufacturing. And so, that problem in manufacturing. And so, that problem in manufacturing. And so, when people realized, wait, this bar when people realized, wait, this bar when people realized, wait, this bar tastes like it has sugar. Yes. But it tastes like it has sugar. Yes. But it tastes like it has sugar. Yes. But it doesn't have sugar. No. And it's doesn't have sugar. No. And it's doesn't have sugar. No. And it's convenient. Yes. And so it was like, convenient. Yes. And so it was like, convenient. Yes. And so it was like, okay. So now I gave them essentially a okay. So now I gave them essentially a okay. So now I gave them essentially a cookie they could carry in their pocket, cookie they could carry in their pocket, cookie they could carry in their pocket, but it gave them the protein they were but it gave them the protein they were but it gave them the protein they were looking for and tasted awesome. So then looking for and tasted awesome. So then looking for and tasted awesome. So then people were like, "Oh, you solved a people were like, "Oh, you solved a people were like, "Oh, you solved a problem that I actually knew I had. problem that I actually knew I had. problem that I actually knew I had. Wanted somebody to solve, but all the Wanted somebody to solve, but all the Wanted somebody to solve, but all the protein bars that were on the market protein bars that were on the market protein bars that were on the market were terrible for me and so they didn't were terrible for me and so they didn't were terrible for me and so they didn't eat them." Uh, so anyway, Lucker Palmer eat them." Uh, so anyway, Lucker Palmer eat them." Uh, so anyway, Lucker Palmer Lucky is sol Lucky Palmer. Lucky Palmer. Lucky is sol Lucky Palmer. Lucky Palmer. Lucky is sol Lucky Palmer. Lucky Palmer. Palmer Lucky. There we go. Final answer. Palmer Lucky. There we go. Final answer. Palmer Lucky. There we go. Final answer. Palmer Lucky uh is solving a problem the Palmer Lucky uh is solving a problem the Palmer Lucky uh is solving a problem the military knows it has. They need cheap military knows it has. They need cheap military knows it has. They need cheap and effective missiles. Gotcha. And so and effective missiles. Gotcha. And so and effective missiles. Gotcha. And so now it will be easy for him to sell that now it will be easy for him to sell that now it will be easy for him to sell that in because it's product market fit. in because it's product market fit. in because it's product market fit. >> Got it. Big diglers re on the straight >> Got it. Big diglers re on the straight >> Got it. Big diglers re on the straight of Hormuse. One wonders if one angle is of Hormuse. One wonders if one angle is of Hormuse. One wonders if one angle is the US trying to play for time to allow the US trying to play for time to allow the US trying to play for time to allow alternatives to come online with minimal alternatives to come online with minimal alternatives to come online with minimal market disruption. Tom, did you reach market disruption. Tom, did you reach market disruption. Tom, did you reach out to Brent Johnson and George Gam out to Brent Johnson and George Gam out to Brent Johnson and George Gam Gaiman on par with Snyder? Gaiman on par with Snyder? Gaiman on par with Snyder? >> I haven't reached out to them. No, but I >> I haven't reached out to them. No, but I >> I haven't reached out to them. No, but I started looking into I think it was started looking into I think it was started looking into I think it was George Gammon. Yeah. Uh I haven't gone George Gammon. Yeah. Uh I haven't gone George Gammon. Yeah. Uh I haven't gone deep enough on them to have a deep enough on them to have a deep enough on them to have a fullyfledged thing, but they are on our fullyfledged thing, but they are on our fullyfledged thing, but they are on our list of two considers. list of two considers. list of two considers. >> Um and then in terms of do I think that >> Um and then in terms of do I think that >> Um and then in terms of do I think that they're just playing for time? I do not. they're just playing for time? I do not. they're just playing for time? I do not. I think that they'll have enough time I think that they'll have enough time I think that they'll have enough time that if other opportunities present that if other opportunities present that if other opportunities present themselves, they would take it, but I themselves, they would take it, but I themselves, they would take it, but I think we have a manufacturing problem. think we have a manufacturing problem. think we have a manufacturing problem. We just can't make the munitions fast We just can't make the munitions fast We just can't make the munitions fast enough and that you're not going to enough and that you're not going to enough and that you're not going to solve that in the next 18 months. solve that in the next 18 months. solve that in the next 18 months. Swirling Dragon Mist says, Swirling Dragon Mist says, Swirling Dragon Mist says, "Affordability is not price reduction. "Affordability is not price reduction. "Affordability is not price reduction. It's subsidy of higher prices. It's subsidy of higher prices. It's subsidy of higher prices. Affordability lines pockets, balloon Affordability lines pockets, balloon Affordability lines pockets, balloon balloons costs, and calls it an balloons costs, and calls it an balloons costs, and calls it an improvement." improvement." improvement." >> That's true. Those are facts. Also, >> That's true. Those are facts. Also, >> That's true. Those are facts. Also, affordability is just a marketing affordability is just a marketing affordability is just a marketing message. It is not affordable. If you message. It is not affordable. If you message. It is not affordable. If you really want something to be affordable, really want something to be affordable, really want something to be affordable, you have to solve the root cause. If you you have to solve the root cause. If you you have to solve the root cause. If you take housing, make more houses, make take housing, make more houses, make take housing, make more houses, make more houses. It's supply and demand. If more houses. It's supply and demand. If more houses. It's supply and demand. If you make more houses, then the value of you make more houses, then the value of you make more houses, then the value of the houses that already exist will go the houses that already exist will go the houses that already exist will go down. And that's the problem and that's down. And that's the problem and that's down. And that's the problem and that's why they don't do it. But that is why they don't do it. But that is why they don't do it. But that is self-evidently self-evidently self-evidently what you need to do to solve the what you need to do to solve the what you need to do to solve the problem. Everything else is a gimmick. problem. Everything else is a gimmick. problem. Everything else is a gimmick. It will not work. Not long-term. It will It will not work. Not long-term. It will It will not work. Not long-term. It will simply move the cost or the pain simply move the cost or the pain simply move the cost or the pain somewhere else. Like there is I I'm somewhere else. Like there is I I'm somewhere else. Like there is I I'm triggered by this person at a purely triggered by this person at a purely triggered by this person at a purely like aesthetic level. Hearing them talk like aesthetic level. Hearing them talk like aesthetic level. Hearing them talk makes me go crazy. So I know that they makes me go crazy. So I know that they makes me go crazy. So I know that they fall into this mom dummy bucket for me. fall into this mom dummy bucket for me. fall into this mom dummy bucket for me. But uh there's this new woman. I forget But uh there's this new woman. I forget But uh there's this new woman. I forget her name. her name. her name. >> New woman. She just dropped. She >> New woman. She just dropped. She >> New woman. She just dropped. She basically, yeah, uh she's a DSA person basically, yeah, uh she's a DSA person basically, yeah, uh she's a DSA person and uh she her dad is like a four-time and uh she her dad is like a four-time and uh she her dad is like a four-time Grammy winner. You should be able to Grammy winner. You should be able to Grammy winner. You should be able to find her pretty easily. She's a housing find her pretty easily. She's a housing find her pretty easily. She's a housing chick. Um basically never paid rent. chick. Um basically never paid rent. chick. Um basically never paid rent. She's been on rent strike for like three She's been on rent strike for like three She's been on rent strike for like three years or something. Uh owes like years or something. Uh owes like years or something. Uh owes like $108,000 in rent and believes that we $108,000 in rent and believes that we $108,000 in rent and believes that we should abolish rent. There it is. She should abolish rent. There it is. She should abolish rent. There it is. She wrote a book called Abolish Rent. And so wrote a book called Abolish Rent. And so wrote a book called Abolish Rent. And so the the the building that she's in, the the the building that she's in, the the the building that she's in, uh she refuses to pay rent. Now look, uh she refuses to pay rent. Now look, uh she refuses to pay rent. Now look, it's possible that guy is evil, but she it's possible that guy is evil, but she it's possible that guy is evil, but she refuses to pay rent. He's an immigrant refuses to pay rent. He's an immigrant refuses to pay rent. He's an immigrant trying to like get by, not a trust fund trying to like get by, not a trust fund trying to like get by, not a trust fund baby, like an entrepreneur, like really baby, like an entrepreneur, like really baby, like an entrepreneur, like really trying to make it happen. People forget trying to make it happen. People forget trying to make it happen. People forget that businesses are buildings. Sorry, that businesses are buildings. Sorry, that businesses are buildings. Sorry, buildings are businesses. And so by buildings are businesses. And so by buildings are businesses. And so by taking the product and not paying for taking the product and not paying for taking the product and not paying for it, he ends up losing the building. He it, he ends up losing the building. He it, he ends up losing the building. He literally lost the building. So she puts literally lost the building. So she puts literally lost the building. So she puts this guy into foreclosure and is now this guy into foreclosure and is now this guy into foreclosure and is now trying to teach more people how to like trying to teach more people how to like trying to teach more people how to like over immigrants. Like it's so over immigrants. Like it's so over immigrants. Like it's so crazy. So, this kind of thing drives me crazy. So, this kind of thing drives me crazy. So, this kind of thing drives me absolutely up a wall. Uh, this is absolutely up a wall. Uh, this is absolutely up a wall. Uh, this is precisely why I stopped being a precisely why I stopped being a precisely why I stopped being a landlord, by the way. I was just like, landlord, by the way. I was just like, landlord, by the way. I was just like, it is such an attack vector. Like, it is such an attack vector. Like, it is such an attack vector. Like, people can literally hold you hostage people can literally hold you hostage people can literally hold you hostage for rent. I went through one thing with for rent. I went through one thing with for rent. I went through one thing with a tenant where the judge goes, I want to a tenant where the judge goes, I want to a tenant where the judge goes, I want to be honest. You're being legally be honest. You're being legally be honest. You're being legally extorted, but you have to deal with extorted, but you have to deal with extorted, but you have to deal with this. And I was like, yep, I'm selling this. And I was like, yep, I'm selling this. And I was like, yep, I'm selling all my real estate. And so, anyway, sold all my real estate. And so, anyway, sold all my real estate. And so, anyway, sold our real estate. But that's like, good our real estate. But that's like, good our real estate. But that's like, good luck. like when everybody's like, "I luck. like when everybody's like, "I luck. like when everybody's like, "I don't want to be a landlord." Good luck don't want to be a landlord." Good luck don't want to be a landlord." Good luck getting increased supply. getting increased supply. getting increased supply. >> And it's crazy that she's a trust fund >> And it's crazy that she's a trust fund >> And it's crazy that she's a trust fund baby and she put like the immigrant out baby and she put like the immigrant out baby and she put like the immigrant out of business. of business. of business. >> Correct. Because she doesn't even have a >> Correct. Because she doesn't even have a >> Correct. Because she doesn't even have a frame of reference for what it's like to frame of reference for what it's like to frame of reference for what it's like to struggle and try to make something struggle and try to make something struggle and try to make something happen when she grew up in like a I happen when she grew up in like a I happen when she grew up in like a I mean, not that this is super important, mean, not that this is super important, mean, not that this is super important, but it's a fact. She grew up in a $ 1.7 but it's a fact. She grew up in a $ 1.7 but it's a fact. She grew up in a $ 1.7 million apartment, which when she was a million apartment, which when she was a million apartment, which when she was a kid, that would have really been kid, that would have really been kid, that would have really been something. Uh so yeah, anyway, you're something. Uh so yeah, anyway, you're something. Uh so yeah, anyway, you're going to see more and more of this. This going to see more and more of this. This going to see more and more of this. This is the overp production of elites. This is the overp production of elites. This is the overp production of elites. This is kids that grew up safe and sound with is kids that grew up safe and sound with is kids that grew up safe and sound with plenty of money now telling people plenty of money now telling people plenty of money now telling people who've had to fight for every dollar who've had to fight for every dollar who've had to fight for every dollar that uh hey, we've got a solution and that uh hey, we've got a solution and that uh hey, we've got a solution and that solution is communism. It's that solution is communism. It's that solution is communism. It's This is so irritating. They This is so irritating. They This is so irritating. They hate workers. They hate workers. I want hate workers. They hate workers. I want hate workers. They hate workers. I want to be very clear about that. Which is to be very clear about that. Which is to be very clear about that. Which is why, remember, the only people they hate why, remember, the only people they hate why, remember, the only people they hate more than workers are the billionaires, more than workers are the billionaires, more than workers are the billionaires, the wealthy class. They've done the wealthy class. They've done the wealthy class. They've done cross-cultural studies. People like this cross-cultural studies. People like this cross-cultural studies. People like this will vote for policies that hurt the will vote for policies that hurt the will vote for policies that hurt the poor as long as it hurts the wealthy. poor as long as it hurts the wealthy. poor as long as it hurts the wealthy. And they will not vote for a policy that And they will not vote for a policy that And they will not vote for a policy that helps the poor if it also helps the helps the poor if it also helps the helps the poor if it also helps the wealthy. Okay, hear me again. wealthy. Okay, hear me again. wealthy. Okay, hear me again. Cross-cultural studies, meaning it Cross-cultural studies, meaning it Cross-cultural studies, meaning it doesn't matter what country you run this doesn't matter what country you run this doesn't matter what country you run this test in. This is just how humans are. test in. This is just how humans are. test in. This is just how humans are. People will vote for policies that hurt People will vote for policies that hurt People will vote for policies that hurt the poor if that's what's required to the poor if that's what's required to the poor if that's what's required to hurt the rich. And they will not vote hurt the rich. And they will not vote hurt the rich. And they will not vote for policies that help the poor if it for policies that help the poor if it for policies that help the poor if it also helps the rich. That that's evil. also helps the rich. That that's evil. also helps the rich. That that's evil. That is literally evil. That is literally evil. That is literally evil. All right. Next up, chaos ballads. All right. Next up, chaos ballads. All right. Next up, chaos ballads. There's also a consideration of what There's also a consideration of what There's also a consideration of what environment you're in as far as health environment you're in as far as health environment you're in as far as health goes. My sister recently concluded that goes. My sister recently concluded that goes. My sister recently concluded that leukemia she had when she was 10 to 12 leukemia she had when she was 10 to 12 leukemia she had when she was 10 to 12 was a result of her father's and was a result of her father's and was a result of her father's and stepmother's constant smoking. stepmother's constant smoking. stepmother's constant smoking. >> I hate how true that is. Now, I don't >> I hate how true that is. Now, I don't >> I hate how true that is. Now, I don't know that smoking has ever uh led to know that smoking has ever uh led to know that smoking has ever uh led to leukemia. It's certainly possible. Um, leukemia. It's certainly possible. Um, leukemia. It's certainly possible. Um, environment matters tremendously. That's environment matters tremendously. That's environment matters tremendously. That's why I use the example of radon. It's why I use the example of radon. It's why I use the example of radon. It's something that can cause lung cancer. something that can cause lung cancer. something that can cause lung cancer. People know that it causes lung cancer People know that it causes lung cancer People know that it causes lung cancer and yet you can find yourself around it, and yet you can find yourself around it, and yet you can find yourself around it, not realize you're around it. That's not realize you're around it. That's not realize you're around it. That's rough to never smoke a day in your life rough to never smoke a day in your life rough to never smoke a day in your life and die of lung cancer. me. Uh, and and die of lung cancer. me. Uh, and and die of lung cancer. me. Uh, and by the way, it just comes from the by the way, it just comes from the by the way, it just comes from the earth. It is something that rocks uh earth. It is something that rocks uh earth. It is something that rocks uh emit. It just is what it is, man. Uh, so emit. It just is what it is, man. Uh, so emit. It just is what it is, man. Uh, so yeah, that's real yeah, that's real yeah, that's real >> Big dick. Big dicklers with another 20. >> Big dick. Big dicklers with another 20. >> Big dick. Big dicklers with another 20. So, thank you for the 40 total. So, thank you for the 40 total. So, thank you for the 40 total. >> Yeah, big today. Thank you, >> Yeah, big today. Thank you, >> Yeah, big today. Thank you, >> Drew. The vector you need to win Tom >> Drew. The vector you need to win Tom >> Drew. The vector you need to win Tom over the Hamiltonian system. The US over the Hamiltonian system. The US over the Hamiltonian system. The US extends credit and strategic tariffs to extends credit and strategic tariffs to extends credit and strategic tariffs to US innovators to foster critical US innovators to foster critical US innovators to foster critical industries. Consider the DO's Department industries. Consider the DO's Department industries. Consider the DO's Department of Strategic Capital as an example. of Strategic Capital as an example. of Strategic Capital as an example. >> Yeah, that's yes, correct. That is how >> Yeah, that's yes, correct. That is how >> Yeah, that's yes, correct. That is how you would win me over. Well said. T- you would win me over. Well said. T- you would win me over. Well said. T- Money says, "Interesting how Ryan will Money says, "Interesting how Ryan will Money says, "Interesting how Ryan will defend while calling uh while defend while calling uh while defend while calling uh while lialously calling Fuentes a Nazi, even lialously calling Fuentes a Nazi, even lialously calling Fuentes a Nazi, even though is espousing a more deadly though is espousing a more deadly though is espousing a more deadly ideology and uses more violent rhetoric ideology and uses more violent rhetoric ideology and uses more violent rhetoric on the regular." Tom, you're great. Keep on the regular." Tom, you're great. Keep on the regular." Tom, you're great. Keep being you being you being you >> eating popcorn. Waiting for Ryan's >> eating popcorn. Waiting for Ryan's >> eating popcorn. Waiting for Ryan's reaction. Thank you. my reaction. reaction. Thank you. my reaction. reaction. Thank you. my reaction. >> Well, so hold on. Is he referring to >> Well, so hold on. Is he referring to >> Well, so hold on. Is he referring to He's He's He's >> a Nazi. >> a Nazi. >> a Nazi. >> Hold on, hold on. I need I need context. >> Hold on, hold on. I need I need context. >> Hold on, hold on. I need I need context. Is this from something you said Is this from something you said Is this from something you said previously or were you in chat? previously or were you in chat? previously or were you in chat? >> I think he's talking from like an >> I think he's talking from like an >> I think he's talking from like an episode or two ago, which like my episode or two ago, which like my episode or two ago, which like my argument is still the same from last argument is still the same from last argument is still the same from last time. But the bigger thing here is time. But the bigger thing here is time. But the bigger thing here is Fuentes went on the record saying Adolf Fuentes went on the record saying Adolf Fuentes went on the record saying Adolf Hitler's pretty cool and called Hitler's pretty cool and called Hitler's pretty cool and called himself a modern neo-Nazi and went and himself a modern neo-Nazi and went and himself a modern neo-Nazi and went and denied the Holocaust live in front of an denied the Holocaust live in front of an denied the Holocaust live in front of an audience of Jewish folks. So like audience of Jewish folks. So like audience of Jewish folks. So like >> all horrific. He's a Nazi, >> all horrific. He's a Nazi, >> all horrific. He's a Nazi, >> but at least he's not a Mauist who was >> but at least he's not a Mauist who was >> but at least he's not a Mauist who was far. You guys see? See this? This is far. You guys see? See this? This is far. You guys see? See this? This is what hurts my soul. That's funny. But what hurts my soul. That's funny. But what hurts my soul. That's funny. But Mao killed far more people than Hitler Mao killed far more people than Hitler Mao killed far more people than Hitler by a lot. by a lot. by a lot. >> He's a human being. I don't want to get >> He's a human being. I don't want to get >> He's a human being. I don't want to get in a policy walk. I'll be quiet. I'll be in a policy walk. I'll be quiet. I'll be in a policy walk. I'll be quiet. I'll be I'll is crazy. You should have a I'll is crazy. You should have a I'll is crazy. You should have a wild aversion to Hitler. wild aversion to Hitler. wild aversion to Hitler. >> JG O Bro says that doesn't make him a >> JG O Bro says that doesn't make him a >> JG O Bro says that doesn't make him a Nazi. Bro's a Nazi. He said he's a Nazi. Nazi. Bro's a Nazi. He said he's a Nazi. Nazi. Bro's a Nazi. He said he's a Nazi. He said he's a Nazi. chatter. That He said he's a Nazi. chatter. That He said he's a Nazi. chatter. That doesn't make him a Nazi cuz he says he's doesn't make him a Nazi cuz he says he's doesn't make him a Nazi cuz he says he's a Nazi. a Nazi. a Nazi. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> cut you off, Tom. The chatter's going >> cut you off, Tom. The chatter's going >> cut you off, Tom. The chatter's going crazy and I'm just like, crazy and I'm just like, crazy and I'm just like, >> if somebody says they're a Nazi, I think >> if somebody says they're a Nazi, I think >> if somebody says they're a Nazi, I think pretty officially that pretty officially that pretty officially that >> that's all it takes to make up a Nazi, >> that's all it takes to make up a Nazi, >> that's all it takes to make up a Nazi, right? Take us on out of this whole right? Take us on out of this whole right? Take us on out of this whole conversation. Fuentes says he's a Nazi. conversation. Fuentes says he's a Nazi. conversation. Fuentes says he's a Nazi. Like that's not me making Like that's not me making Like that's not me making >> that's good enough for me. Yeah, you you >> that's good enough for me. Yeah, you you >> that's good enough for me. Yeah, you you will hear me say many times, if somebody will hear me say many times, if somebody will hear me say many times, if somebody tells you who they are, believe them. So tells you who they are, believe them. So tells you who they are, believe them. So if Nick is telling you straight up, I'm if Nick is telling you straight up, I'm if Nick is telling you straight up, I'm a Nazi. Well, a Nazi. Well, a Nazi. Well, >> okay. You have to You're not being >> okay. You have to You're not being >> okay. You have to You're not being honest if you're calling DSA closer to honest if you're calling DSA closer to honest if you're calling DSA closer to Mauism than the Nordic model. Mauism than the Nordic model. Mauism than the Nordic model. >> Uh, are you for real? >> Uh, are you for real? >> Uh, are you for real? >> I got to give you that. >> I got to give you that. >> I got to give you that. >> Am I being trolled right now? >> Am I being trolled right now? >> Am I being trolled right now? >> No, you have to you have to answer that >> No, you have to you have to answer that >> No, you have to you have to answer that cuz that that up a lot. cuz that that up a lot. cuz that that up a lot. >> Let's go. Ready? So, look at what they >> Let's go. Ready? So, look at what they >> Let's go. Ready? So, look at what they actually say. You guys are unfortunately actually say. You guys are unfortunately actually say. You guys are unfortunately in the bad position of I've now been in the bad position of I've now been in the bad position of I've now been triggered. So, I am keeping a document triggered. So, I am keeping a document triggered. So, I am keeping a document with the DSA in their own words. Uh with the DSA in their own words. Uh with the DSA in their own words. Uh there's video footage of uh Hassan there's video footage of uh Hassan there's video footage of uh Hassan being given the little red book of being given the little red book of being given the little red book of communism from Mao, written by Mao, the communism from Mao, written by Mao, the communism from Mao, written by Mao, the most murderous person since Genghaskhan. most murderous person since Genghaskhan. most murderous person since Genghaskhan. Uh and being like, "Oh my god." and Uh and being like, "Oh my god." and Uh and being like, "Oh my god." and celebrating it and being so excited. And celebrating it and being so excited. And celebrating it and being so excited. And the guy uh on his team is like, "Some the guy uh on his team is like, "Some the guy uh on his team is like, "Some people say that this is more important people say that this is more important people say that this is more important than the Bible." And he was saying it as than the Bible." And he was saying it as than the Bible." And he was saying it as a way of like trying to say, "Hey, I'm a way of like trying to say, "Hey, I'm a way of like trying to say, "Hey, I'm one of those people that says that this one of those people that says that this one of those people that says that this is more important than the Bible." Uh I is more important than the Bible." Uh I is more important than the Bible." Uh I could stop there. There is more on I' could stop there. There is more on I' could stop there. There is more on I' I've got like I don't know 15 to 20 of I've got like I don't know 15 to 20 of I've got like I don't know 15 to 20 of them now and I collect more every single them now and I collect more every single them now and I collect more every single day. They talk about things like day. They talk about things like day. They talk about things like abolishing the rent. They talk about abolishing the rent. They talk about abolishing the rent. They talk about rent controls. Uh they talk about rent controls. Uh they talk about rent controls. Uh they talk about abolishing the uh borders. They talk abolishing the uh borders. They talk abolishing the uh borders. They talk about amnesty for immigrants. They talk about amnesty for immigrants. They talk about amnesty for immigrants. They talk about getting rid of police. They talk about getting rid of police. They talk about getting rid of police. They talk about getting rid of prisons. Are you about getting rid of prisons. Are you about getting rid of prisons. Are you I cannot believe that I cannot believe that I cannot believe that you hear all of that noise and think you hear all of that noise and think you hear all of that noise and think that they're espousing a Nordic model. that they're espousing a Nordic model. that they're espousing a Nordic model. The Nordic model is broad tax base for The Nordic model is broad tax base for The Nordic model is broad tax base for everyone everyone everyone and then a big social safety net. That and then a big social safety net. That and then a big social safety net. That is very different than no borders. is very different than no borders. is very different than no borders. That's very different than no police. That's very different than no police. That's very different than no police. That's very different than abolishing That's very different than abolishing That's very different than abolishing rent. That's very different than all the rent. That's very different than all the rent. That's very different than all the dumbass pro murderous mau policies that dumbass pro murderous mau policies that dumbass pro murderous mau policies that these guys put forward. They actively these guys put forward. They actively these guys put forward. They actively campaign on Marxist principles. They campaign on Marxist principles. They campaign on Marxist principles. They talk about Marxism. They talk about talk about Marxism. They talk about talk about Marxism. They talk about Leninism. Dude, you are out of your mind Leninism. Dude, you are out of your mind Leninism. Dude, you are out of your mind if you think these guys are espousing a if you think these guys are espousing a if you think these guys are espousing a Nordic model. That is so naive and so Nordic model. That is so naive and so Nordic model. That is so naive and so crazy or so propagandistic that you are crazy or so propagandistic that you are crazy or so propagandistic that you are not to be trusted either because you not to be trusted either because you not to be trusted either because you cannot parse reality or because you have cannot parse reality or because you have cannot parse reality or because you have accurately parsed reality and you are accurately parsed reality and you are accurately parsed reality and you are trying to bamboozle people. So that's trying to bamboozle people. So that's trying to bamboozle people. So that's some wild some wild some wild >> that that shall not stand on this show. >> that that shall not stand on this show. >> that that shall not stand on this show. that. that. that. >> One more super chat. Anthony Thompson >> One more super chat. Anthony Thompson >> One more super chat. Anthony Thompson says, "What if they make houses in bad says, "What if they make houses in bad says, "What if they make houses in bad and poor neighborhoods where the and poor neighborhoods where the and poor neighborhoods where the property value is already low due to property value is already low due to property value is already low due to crime and then install community crime and then install community crime and then install community security in those neighborhoods? Would security in those neighborhoods? Would security in those neighborhoods? Would that solve things?" that solve things?" that solve things?" >> You just explained gentrification. >> You just explained gentrification. >> You just explained gentrification. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, so recreating gentrification first >> Well, so recreating gentrification first >> Well, so recreating gentrification first principles. >> That's funny. >> That's funny. >> Drew, that was good. >> Drew, that was good. >> Drew, that was good. >> Uh, yeah. So, this is unfortunately a >> Uh, yeah. So, this is unfortunately a >> Uh, yeah. So, this is unfortunately a largely true statement. You might get largely true statement. You might get largely true statement. You might get closer to what you're looking for. If closer to what you're looking for. If closer to what you're looking for. If they were to um build enough housing they were to um build enough housing they were to um build enough housing that housing prices stabilize at that housing prices stabilize at that housing prices stabilize at something that's reasonable, you don't something that's reasonable, you don't something that's reasonable, you don't want them to keep going down over time want them to keep going down over time want them to keep going down over time because then it will just become an because then it will just become an because then it will just become an impoverished neighborhood. But you want impoverished neighborhood. But you want impoverished neighborhood. But you want them to stabilize at something that's them to stabilize at something that's them to stabilize at something that's reasonable. let's call it uh a middle reasonable. let's call it uh a middle reasonable. let's call it uh a middle income being able to afford the average income being able to afford the average income being able to afford the average house on a single income. Like if you house on a single income. Like if you house on a single income. Like if you make that the thing you're aiming at, make that the thing you're aiming at, make that the thing you're aiming at, then it becomes really about policing. then it becomes really about policing. then it becomes really about policing. The problem is that you've really got to The problem is that you've really got to The problem is that you've really got to overpol the areas that are likely to be overpol the areas that are likely to be overpol the areas that are likely to be lower income because you need law and lower income because you need law and lower income because you need law and order for businesses to come in. When order for businesses to come in. When order for businesses to come in. When businesses leave, that's when you you businesses leave, that's when you you businesses leave, that's when you you get into this death spiral. So, you want get into this death spiral. So, you want get into this death spiral. So, you want to be able to have nice sort of budget to be able to have nice sort of budget to be able to have nice sort of budget nice things. So, if you think about this nice things. So, if you think about this nice things. So, if you think about this was one of the things that made Target was one of the things that made Target was one of the things that made Target so exceptional in the beginning was they so exceptional in the beginning was they so exceptional in the beginning was they had people they would do collaborations had people they would do collaborations had people they would do collaborations with high-end people like a Martha with high-end people like a Martha with high-end people like a Martha Stewart and they would make something Stewart and they would make something Stewart and they would make something really nice, but it could be bought on a really nice, but it could be bought on a really nice, but it could be bought on a budget. And so if you've got areas like budget. And so if you've got areas like budget. And so if you've got areas like that where listen, it's not going to be that where listen, it's not going to be that where listen, it's not going to be um something fancy that you would find um something fancy that you would find um something fancy that you would find in a Manhattan penthouse, but it's in a Manhattan penthouse, but it's in a Manhattan penthouse, but it's something that's affordable, they're something that's affordable, they're something that's affordable, they're nice, it's something that somebody can nice, it's something that somebody can nice, it's something that somebody can take pride in, you want to focus on take pride in, you want to focus on take pride in, you want to focus on getting them ownership. This is where I getting them ownership. This is where I getting them ownership. This is where I threatened to do a deep dive on uh Lee threatened to do a deep dive on uh Lee threatened to do a deep dive on uh Lee Kuanu a while ago because I have a Kuanu a while ago because I have a Kuanu a while ago because I have a feeling there's a lot to learn, feeling there's a lot to learn, feeling there's a lot to learn, especially because he told the especially because he told the especially because he told the communists that he would literally fight communists that he would literally fight communists that he would literally fight them. I can't remember if he said to the them. I can't remember if he said to the them. I can't remember if he said to the death, but he said literally fight them. death, but he said literally fight them. death, but he said literally fight them. like I will be violent towards like I will be violent towards like I will be violent towards communists. So you had me at hello. Um communists. So you had me at hello. Um communists. So you had me at hello. Um but his whole thing and and I'm early but his whole thing and and I'm early but his whole thing and and I'm early enough that I could be giving him too enough that I could be giving him too enough that I could be giving him too much credit, but I don't think so. I much credit, but I don't think so. I much credit, but I don't think so. I think his thing was I lieu want to be think his thing was I lieu want to be think his thing was I lieu want to be wealthy, but I'm going to hold myself wealthy, but I'm going to hold myself wealthy, but I'm going to hold myself accountable to only getting well as accountable to only getting well as accountable to only getting well as wealthy as the people in my country. And wealthy as the people in my country. And wealthy as the people in my country. And so if I want them if I want to have AC, so if I want them if I want to have AC, so if I want them if I want to have AC, the people in my country have to have the people in my country have to have the people in my country have to have AC. If I want to have a house, the AC. If I want to have a house, the AC. If I want to have a house, the people in my country have to have a people in my country have to have a people in my country have to have a house. It's a pretty gangster way to uh house. It's a pretty gangster way to uh house. It's a pretty gangster way to uh both get extraordinarily popular and both get extraordinarily popular and both get extraordinarily popular and build a dope system because you're build a dope system because you're build a dope system because you're saying, "I want to be rich. I saying, "I want to be rich. I saying, "I want to be rich. I don't want to be like some lame ass who don't want to be like some lame ass who don't want to be like some lame ass who doesn't have a house and I don't want to doesn't have a house and I don't want to doesn't have a house and I don't want to be a lame ass who doesn't have AC. Like, be a lame ass who doesn't have AC. Like, be a lame ass who doesn't have AC. Like, I want a dope country." If you I want a dope country." If you I want a dope country." If you guys don't know, he's the guy that built guys don't know, he's the guy that built guys don't know, he's the guy that built um Singapore out of a literal swamp. Uh um Singapore out of a literal swamp. Uh um Singapore out of a literal swamp. Uh so so so that to me is awesome. But you have to that to me is awesome. But you have to that to me is awesome. But you have to have people that are willing to do that. have people that are willing to do that. have people that are willing to do that. And this is a it's a form of leadership And this is a it's a form of leadership And this is a it's a form of leadership that you don't get in latestage empires. that you don't get in latestage empires. that you don't get in latestage empires. You get that kind of and he was a little You get that kind of and he was a little You get that kind of and he was a little bit gangster. He was like union busting bit gangster. He was like union busting bit gangster. He was like union busting and telling the um communists and telling the um communists and telling the um communists that they could off and like I'm that they could off and like I'm that they could off and like I'm here to fight you. H that that's a here to fight you. H that that's a here to fight you. H that that's a hardcore guy. And so man, they don't hardcore guy. And so man, they don't hardcore guy. And so man, they don't come along very often. But when they do, come along very often. But when they do, come along very often. But when they do, this is your uh George Washingtons, this is your uh George Washingtons, this is your uh George Washingtons, right? the guy in the front line of the right? the guy in the front line of the right? the guy in the front line of the war that's like, "All right, well, if war that's like, "All right, well, if war that's like, "All right, well, if we're going to become a country, I'm we're going to become a country, I'm we're going to become a country, I'm going to get shot at as much as the next going to get shot at as much as the next going to get shot at as much as the next person. I'm going to be the last one to person. I'm going to be the last one to person. I'm going to be the last one to cross back over into safety when we're cross back over into safety when we're cross back over into safety when we're getting attacked." Yeah. It's just getting attacked." Yeah. It's just getting attacked." Yeah. It's just tough, man. It's tough to find people tough, man. It's tough to find people tough, man. It's tough to find people that hardcore that are both truly big of that hardcore that are both truly big of that hardcore that are both truly big of heart, actually want good things for heart, actually want good things for heart, actually want good things for you, but like Washington, murdered in you, but like Washington, murdered in you, but like Washington, murdered in cold blood traders. cold blood traders. cold blood traders. >> All right, we're good. People don't love >> All right, we're good. People don't love >> All right, we're good. People don't love that. But you you got to be willing to that. But you you got to be willing to that. But you you got to be willing to do both. We're what? do both. We're what? do both. We're what? >> I said, "Are we good? I have to pee." We >> I said, "Are we good? I have to pee." We >> I said, "Are we good? I have to pee." We >> Oh, Drew doesn't like Drew doesn't like >> Oh, Drew doesn't like Drew doesn't like >> Oh, Drew doesn't like Drew doesn't like where we're going, boys and girls. That where we're going, boys and girls. That where we're going, boys and girls. That was an eject button. I've needed to pee was an eject button. I've needed to pee was an eject button. I've needed to pee for quite some time. But hey, for quite some time. But hey, for quite some time. But hey, >> you didn't hear me bitching about it. >> you didn't hear me bitching about it. >> you didn't hear me bitching about it. >> Like I'm I'm done with this >> Like I'm I'm done with this >> Like I'm I'm done with this >> All right. Did we get all the uh super >> All right. Did we get all the uh super >> All right. Did we get all the uh super chats? chats? chats? >> Yeah, that was the list. >> Yeah, that was the list. >> Yeah, that was the list. >> We We are admittedly 21 minutes over. I >> We We are admittedly 21 minutes over. I >> We We are admittedly 21 minutes over. I got pretty pretty excited here. got pretty pretty excited here. got pretty pretty excited here. >> The leg shake it. >> The leg shake it. >> The leg shake it. >> All right. You guys are dope. Thank you >> All right. You guys are dope. Thank you >> All right. You guys are dope. Thank you for joining us. Uh, the next ITU AI for joining us. Uh, the next ITU AI for joining us. Uh, the next ITU AI message. message. message. >> Oh, wait. We got another super chat. >> Oh, wait. We got another super chat. >> Oh, wait. We got another super chat. You're like, I can spend $20 to make You're like, I can spend $20 to make You're like, I can spend $20 to make Drew wet himself. Drew wet himself. Drew wet himself. >> Oh, no. Uh, it's the Okay, T- Money, >> Oh, no. Uh, it's the Okay, T- Money, >> Oh, no. Uh, it's the Okay, T- Money, guys. Thank you for the 40 total. T- guys. Thank you for the 40 total. T- guys. Thank you for the 40 total. T- Money says, "Fente does not and has Money says, "Fente does not and has Money says, "Fente does not and has never claimed to be a Nazi. His Hitler never claimed to be a Nazi. His Hitler never claimed to be a Nazi. His Hitler is cool statement we use was used to is cool statement we use was used to is cool statement we use was used to shift the Overton window because it is shift the Overton window because it is shift the Overton window because it is sacrilege to the anti-ist movement that sacrilege to the anti-ist movement that sacrilege to the anti-ist movement that leftists use to control conversation." leftists use to control conversation." leftists use to control conversation." >> Were we being propagandized by Ryan and >> Were we being propagandized by Ryan and >> Were we being propagandized by Ryan and we all fell for it? 40 chess. 40 chess. we all fell for it? 40 chess. 40 chess. we all fell for it? 40 chess. 40 chess. Ryan, you don't get it. It is Ryan, you don't get it. It is Ryan, you don't get it. It is unbelievable that he said I'm a Nazi. unbelievable that he said I'm a Nazi. unbelievable that he said I'm a Nazi. >> He said on his show before that >> He said on his show before that >> He said on his show before that >> bring I'm not a Nazi. I'm a neo-Nazi. >> bring I'm not a Nazi. I'm a neo-Nazi. >> bring I'm not a Nazi. I'm a neo-Nazi. He's also said Hitler was cool. He's also said Hitler was cool. He's also said Hitler was cool. >> He's also said the Holocaust wasn't >> He's also said the Holocaust wasn't >> He's also said the Holocaust wasn't real. Like real. Like real. Like >> bring them. Bring them. Bring them. We >> bring them. Bring them. Bring them. We >> bring them. Bring them. Bring them. We will shut them down next time. But let's will shut them down next time. But let's will shut them down next time. But let's let's have the receipts. let's have the receipts. let's have the receipts. >> Okay. I'll bring them next time if you >> Okay. I'll bring them next time if you >> Okay. I'll bring them next time if you want. want. want. >> I love it. Let's find out who's who's >> I love it. Let's find out who's who's >> I love it. Let's find out who's who's right. Oh Drew's engaged now. right. Oh Drew's engaged now. right. Oh Drew's engaged now. >> Now all of a sudden his bladder got me. >> Now all of a sudden his bladder got me. >> Now all of a sudden his bladder got me. All right, let's see what we got. All right, let's see what we got. All right, let's see what we got. >> I think there's some things that's like >> I think there's some things that's like >> I think there's some things that's like it's not worth arguing over someone like it's not worth arguing over someone like it's not worth arguing over someone like Nick Fuentes. You know what I mean? Nick Fuentes. You know what I mean? Nick Fuentes. You know what I mean? >> I don't know, man. Let's go. This is uh >> I don't know, man. Let's go. This is uh >> I don't know, man. Let's go. This is uh this is good TV. Let's see what he said. this is good TV. Let's see what he said. this is good TV. Let's see what he said. >> I'm a Nazi. This is the closest one I >> I'm a Nazi. This is the closest one I >> I'm a Nazi. This is the closest one I can see. can see. can see. >> Does he actually say it? Play it. >> Does he actually say it? Play it. >> Does he actually say it? Play it. >> And we all see what's going on here. >> And we all see what's going on here. >> And we all see what's going on here. Look at the coordinated attack on social Look at the coordinated attack on social Look at the coordinated attack on social media from everywhere, from all sides. media from everywhere, from all sides. media from everywhere, from all sides. Look at all the bad clips he's he's ever Look at all the bad clips he's he's ever Look at all the bad clips he's he's ever said. He's a Hitler worshipper. He's a said. He's a Hitler worshipper. He's a said. He's a Hitler worshipper. He's a Nazi. He's a monster. He's terrible. No Nazi. He's a monster. He's terrible. No Nazi. He's a monster. He's terrible. No one should be his friend. No one should one should be his friend. No one should one should be his friend. No one should talk to him. >> Dramatic pause. >> Dramatic pause. >> We're not stupid. We see what's going >> We're not stupid. We see what's going >> We're not stupid. We see what's going on. It's obvious. on. It's obvious. on. It's obvious. These are the same smear tactics, the These are the same smear tactics, the These are the same smear tactics, the same bullying, intimidation, harassment, same bullying, intimidation, harassment, same bullying, intimidation, harassment, the same psycho berserker tactics the same psycho berserker tactics the same psycho berserker tactics they've used for years. And everybody is they've used for years. And everybody is they've used for years. And everybody is sick of it. And news flash, it's not sick of it. And news flash, it's not sick of it. And news flash, it's not working. I'm more popular than ever. working. I'm more popular than ever. working. I'm more popular than ever. Nobody knows who Mark Leavvin is that's Nobody knows who Mark Leavvin is that's Nobody knows who Mark Leavvin is that's under the age of 50. Mark Levin who? under the age of 50. Mark Levin who? under the age of 50. Mark Levin who? >> Probably true. Yeah, that's a good >> Probably true. Yeah, that's a good >> Probably true. Yeah, that's a good point. point. point. >> Nobody watches hero anymore. People are >> Nobody watches hero anymore. People are >> Nobody watches hero anymore. People are watching Candace Owens. watching Candace Owens. watching Candace Owens. My clips are going viral. I have My clips are going viral. I have My clips are going viral. I have millions of followers. I have millions millions of followers. I have millions millions of followers. I have millions of views because people agree with me. of views because people agree with me. of views because people agree with me. You can call me a Nazi. You better be You can call me a Nazi. You better be You can call me a Nazi. You better be careful because if I'm a Nazi then careful because if I'm a Nazi then careful because if I'm a Nazi then there's millions of young people that there's millions of young people that there's millions of young people that are following a Nazi. So you are following a Nazi. So you are following a Nazi. So you better be careful about those. better be careful about those. better be careful about those. >> So that's not him claiming he's a Nazi >> So that's not him claiming he's a Nazi >> So that's not him claiming he's a Nazi though. Ryan, you're going to have to though. Ryan, you're going to have to though. Ryan, you're going to have to find it. find it. find it. >> I If you want me to go down the rabbit >> I If you want me to go down the rabbit >> I If you want me to go down the rabbit hole, here's the thing. Nick Fuentes has hole, here's the thing. Nick Fuentes has hole, here's the thing. Nick Fuentes has been on the scene for longer than when been on the scene for longer than when been on the scene for longer than when he blew up. You got to like he's in my he blew up. You got to like he's in my he blew up. You got to like he's in my age group. Like these he there are clips age group. Like these he there are clips age group. Like these he there are clips of him the same way there's clips of of him the same way there's clips of of him the same way there's clips of Assad and the same way there's clips of Assad and the same way there's clips of Assad and the same way there's clips of Asmin Gold. and he has said on a clip, Asmin Gold. and he has said on a clip, Asmin Gold. and he has said on a clip, "I'm a Nazi." And also, he has said the "I'm a Nazi." And also, he has said the "I'm a Nazi." And also, he has said the the Hitler thing. So, it's like, you the Hitler thing. So, it's like, you the Hitler thing. So, it's like, you know, again, what is this chatter even know, again, what is this chatter even know, again, what is this chatter even trying to argue? Cuz none of us care trying to argue? Cuz none of us care trying to argue? Cuz none of us care about Nick Fuentes. He's irrelevant to about Nick Fuentes. He's irrelevant to about Nick Fuentes. He's irrelevant to all three of us. I all three of us. I all three of us. I >> I He's definitely not irrelevant. This >> I He's definitely not irrelevant. This >> I He's definitely not irrelevant. This he's not somebody I cover very often he's not somebody I cover very often he's not somebody I cover very often because he makes me deeply because he makes me deeply because he makes me deeply uncomfortable, but uh he definitely has uncomfortable, but uh he definitely has uncomfortable, but uh he definitely has the ear of a lot of people. So, I would the ear of a lot of people. So, I would the ear of a lot of people. So, I would not dismiss him in that way. I think not dismiss him in that way. I think not dismiss him in that way. I think that is it is very unwise to dismiss a that is it is very unwise to dismiss a that is it is very unwise to dismiss a political opponent uh simply because you political opponent uh simply because you political opponent uh simply because you think they're outside the Overton think they're outside the Overton think they're outside the Overton window. Nick Fuentes, if nobody else window. Nick Fuentes, if nobody else window. Nick Fuentes, if nobody else proves that that's true because he just proves that that's true because he just proves that that's true because he just gained and gained and gained in gained and gained and gained in gained and gained and gained in popularity because he was the guy that popularity because he was the guy that popularity because he was the guy that nobody could listen to. It was just like nobody could listen to. It was just like nobody could listen to. It was just like you were autoexiled and that that you were autoexiled and that that you were autoexiled and that that was sailed, man. People don't go for was sailed, man. People don't go for was sailed, man. People don't go for that. that. that. >> I have a direct quote from him if you >> I have a direct quote from him if you >> I have a direct quote from him if you want. Why is Hitler cool? I'll tell you want. Why is Hitler cool? I'll tell you want. Why is Hitler cool? I'll tell you why very simply. Because what Hitler why very simply. Because what Hitler why very simply. Because what Hitler represents is if white people didn't represents is if white people didn't represents is if white people didn't give a give a give a Okay, that's not him saying he's a Nazi, Okay, that's not him saying he's a Nazi, Okay, that's not him saying he's a Nazi, but that is him going to bat for a Nazi but that is him going to bat for a Nazi but that is him going to bat for a Nazi never said he's a mauist, but he bat for never said he's a mauist, but he bat for never said he's a mauist, but he bat for it then in that argu like then on the it then in that argu like then on the it then in that argu like then on the same page we should hold that saying same page we should hold that saying same page we should hold that saying that that that >> Hassan isn't a mauist because he doesn't >> Hassan isn't a mauist because he doesn't >> Hassan isn't a mauist because he doesn't say he's a mauist. say he's a mauist. say he's a mauist. >> Just keep in mind you're arguing with >> Just keep in mind you're arguing with >> Just keep in mind you're arguing with the chatter, not with me. the chatter, not with me. the chatter, not with me. >> No, I know. I'm just saying that feels >> No, I know. I'm just saying that feels >> No, I know. I'm just saying that feels that to me is a uh a very damning that to me is a uh a very damning that to me is a uh a very damning statement which would be if that was the statement which would be if that was the statement which would be if that was the first thing I ever heard from him, I'd first thing I ever heard from him, I'd first thing I ever heard from him, I'd be like cool that guy's disqualified be like cool that guy's disqualified be like cool that guy's disqualified from me in terms of people that I would from me in terms of people that I would from me in terms of people that I would want somebody to listen to because want somebody to listen to because want somebody to listen to because that's full But uh we do want to that's full But uh we do want to that's full But uh we do want to be careful on this show if nowhere else be careful on this show if nowhere else be careful on this show if nowhere else that that that >> for instance take mom Donnie. I I think >> for instance take mom Donnie. I I think >> for instance take mom Donnie. I I think I'm sometimes in danger of underelling I'm sometimes in danger of underelling I'm sometimes in danger of underelling what mom Donnie is trying to do because what mom Donnie is trying to do because what mom Donnie is trying to do because I'm so paranoid about putting words in I'm so paranoid about putting words in I'm so paranoid about putting words in his mouth that he didn't say. There was his mouth that he didn't say. There was his mouth that he didn't say. There was the other day I said, "Okay, well, he the other day I said, "Okay, well, he the other day I said, "Okay, well, he didn't technically say this and he's didn't technically say this and he's didn't technically say this and he's doing this." And then later in the day I doing this." And then later in the day I doing this." And then later in the day I was like, I know what he's doing. And I was like, I know what he's doing. And I was like, I know what he's doing. And I went too hard like giving him grace, but went too hard like giving him grace, but went too hard like giving him grace, but I would rather find myself in that I would rather find myself in that I would rather find myself in that situation. So anyway, uh the things he situation. So anyway, uh the things he situation. So anyway, uh the things he says sound bad enough that you don't says sound bad enough that you don't says sound bad enough that you don't have to push all the way to him saying have to push all the way to him saying have to push all the way to him saying I'm a Nazi. If he did say it, grab the I'm a Nazi. If he did say it, grab the I'm a Nazi. If he did say it, grab the clip and we'll play. It was on some some clip and we'll play. It was on some some clip and we'll play. It was on some some thing he did a while back at a thing he did a while back at a thing he did a while back at a conference and he was like, "My parents conference and he was like, "My parents conference and he was like, "My parents are telling me my parents are telling me are telling me my parents are telling me are telling me my parents are telling me not to say this stuff, but I don't care not to say this stuff, but I don't care not to say this stuff, but I don't care because I'm right." And then he just because I'm right." And then he just because I'm right." And then he just went on a really big anti-semitic tirade went on a really big anti-semitic tirade went on a really big anti-semitic tirade for 20 minutes. for 20 minutes. for 20 minutes. >> Oh, I don't have any trouble believing >> Oh, I don't have any trouble believing >> Oh, I don't have any trouble believing this guy's anti-semitic. this guy's anti-semitic. this guy's anti-semitic. >> I can't find it. He had one of the >> I can't find it. He had one of the >> I can't find it. He had one of the hardest uh Tik Tok edits, though, when hardest uh Tik Tok edits, though, when hardest uh Tik Tok edits, though, when he was like, "I'm the only one with he was like, "I'm the only one with he was like, "I'm the only one with emotion. None of these conservative emotion. None of these conservative emotion. None of these conservative guy." Y'all don't remember that one? guy." Y'all don't remember that one? guy." Y'all don't remember that one? >> I do remember that. It went all over >> I do remember that. It went all over >> I do remember that. It went all over Twitter. Twitter. Twitter. >> That was a hard edit. I can't find that. >> That was a hard edit. I can't find that. >> That was a hard edit. I can't find that. >> I've seen precious little of Nick Fus. >> I've seen precious little of Nick Fus. >> I've seen precious little of Nick Fus. >> Yeah, he had a hard edit. >> Yeah, he had a hard edit. >> Yeah, he had a hard edit. >> You've saved yourself from the weirdos. >> You've saved yourself from the weirdos. >> You've saved yourself from the weirdos. >> No, it was crazy. It was cuz he was >> No, it was crazy. It was cuz he was >> No, it was crazy. It was cuz he was like, "Forget Candace." Like, I'm like, like, "Forget Candace." Like, I'm like, like, "Forget Candace." Like, I'm like, he it was a good I can't find it, he it was a good I can't find it, he it was a good I can't find it, though. though. though. >> His fans have a name for themselves. >> His fans have a name for themselves. >> His fans have a name for themselves. They call themselves the Gropers. They call themselves the Gropers. They call themselves the Gropers. >> Gropers. >> Gropers. >> Gropers. >> Where does that word come from? >> Where does that word come from? >> Where does that word come from? >> Them. They made it. >> Them. They made it. >> Them. They made it. >> What What does Groper >> What What does Groper >> What What does Groper >> I just remember the green the green uh >> I just remember the green the green uh >> I just remember the green the green uh frog figure? Like the meme green? Was frog figure? Like the meme green? Was frog figure? Like the meme green? Was that aer? that aer? that aer? >> That's a griper, I'm guessing. It's just >> That's a griper, I'm guessing. It's just >> That's a griper, I'm guessing. It's just a meme term uh made for the far-right a meme term uh made for the far-right a meme term uh made for the far-right white supremist political commentator white supremist political commentator white supremist political commentator Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes. >> But that word has an etmology and I need >> But that word has an etmology and I need >> But that word has an etmology and I need to to to >> It comes from the Pepe the Frog cartoon >> It comes from the Pepe the Frog cartoon >> It comes from the Pepe the Frog cartoon that you're talking about. that you're talking about. that you're talking about. >> It sounds like Roper. That's why I was >> It sounds like Roper. That's why I was >> It sounds like Roper. That's why I was always like, "Wait, what? always like, "Wait, what? always like, "Wait, what? >> I have no clue that that's quite >> I have no clue that that's quite >> I have no clue that that's quite literally you'd probably have to dig to literally you'd probably have to dig to literally you'd probably have to dig to the depths of Reddit to find that." the depths of Reddit to find that." the depths of Reddit to find that." >> Make what? I doubt I want the answer to >> Make what? I doubt I want the answer to >> Make what? I doubt I want the answer to this, but what is NG AF? Make NGF great this, but what is NG AF? Make NGF great this, but what is NG AF? Make NGF great again. Somebody in chat just said that. again. Somebody in chat just said that. again. Somebody in chat just said that. I have a feeling. Yeah. So, I get that I have a feeling. Yeah. So, I get that I have a feeling. Yeah. So, I get that it's the frog. I'm saying why why is it's the frog. I'm saying why why is it's the frog. I'm saying why why is that frog called a groper? that frog called a groper? that frog called a groper? >> I I don't think it's the frogs. I think >> I I don't think it's the frogs. I think >> I I don't think it's the frogs. I think it just originates from the meme. Like it just originates from the meme. Like it just originates from the meme. Like it's just like the meme is there it's just like the meme is there it's just like the meme is there something with the creator. I mean I I something with the creator. I mean I I something with the creator. I mean I I think it's just it's such a weird group think it's just it's such a weird group think it's just it's such a weird group of people that people just kind of stay of people that people just kind of stay of people that people just kind of stay away from it and no one really knows. away from it and no one really knows. away from it and no one really knows. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Someone said it's a play on on I >> Someone said it's a play on on I >> Someone said it's a play on on I don't know what that is though. don't know what that is though. don't know what that is though. >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> really >> really >> really >> the gropers around you as an internet >> the gropers around you as an internet >> the gropers around you as an internet meme on image boards like for depicts meme on image boards like for depicts meme on image boards like for depicts fat fat fat gaper army. Yeah. Linguistic tries to be gaper army. Yeah. Linguistic tries to be gaper army. Yeah. Linguistic tries to be a blend of and griper. a blend of and griper. a blend of and griper. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> There we go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Got it. So, they're a griper. >> Got it. So, they're a griper. >> Got it. So, they're a griper. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Griper. Okay. Well, now we know. Thank >> Griper. Okay. Well, now we know. Thank >> Griper. Okay. Well, now we know. Thank you. That was the etmology I was looking you. That was the etmology I was looking you. That was the etmology I was looking for. All right. Well, this has certainly for. All right. Well, this has certainly for. All right. Well, this has certainly been a very strange last 10 minutes. I been a very strange last 10 minutes. I been a very strange last 10 minutes. I loved it. I hope you guys did as well. loved it. 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