You’re Not Depressed, You’re Living The Wrong Life - Jimmy Carr
Today, pick one small promise you can keep before the day ends: send the difficult message, take a 20-minute walk with someone, write one page, or book the appointment you have delayed. Make it specific and low-friction, then complete it without renegotiating. Carr’s point is that confidence is not
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Key Takeaway
Today, pick one small promise you can keep before the day ends: send the difficult message, take a 20-minute walk with someone, write one page, or book the appointment you have delayed. Make it specific and low-friction, then complete it without renegotiating. Carr’s point is that confidence is not built by declaring big intentions; it is built through repeated evidence that you do what you say you will do. Small kept promises compound into self-trust.
Episode Overview
Jimmy Carr and Chris Williamson explore anxiety, flow, self-trust, connection, technology, creativity, and why modern life can feel psychologically misaligned. Carr argues that people need better problems, more real-world community, fewer performative desires, and small repeatable actions that create momentum rather than more abstract planning.
Key Insights
Simplify your life instead of trying to make it lighter
Carr distinguishes genuine difficulty from needless complication. A demanding life can be energizing when its demands point in one clear direction; scattered priorities, conflicting identities, and too many options can create the confusion often experienced as anxiety or depression.
Use action to interrupt anxiety
Carr describes anxiety as uncontrolled thoughts, while flow is control without thoughts. When his mind races, giving it a concrete task—such as writing a joke—turns nervous energy into productive attention and creates evidence of agency.
Build confidence by keeping tiny promises
Confidence is framed as the accumulated proof that you show up for yourself. Repeatedly failing to follow through damages trust in your own plans, while small completed commitments compound into a more reliable identity.
Choose better problems, not a problem-free life
The conversation rejects the fantasy that life will eventually become free of obstacles. Problems are presented as signals that something needs attention; progress means graduating to more meaningful and demanding problems rather than waiting for ideal conditions.
Connection is an antidote to atomization
Both speakers argue that individual optimization can become isolating when it replaces shared activity. In-person rituals—walking with friends, attending events, working around others, laughing in a room together—restore belonging and reduce the pull of solitary, screen-based habits.
Frameworks or Models
Overton Window
The Overton Window describes the range of ideas considered acceptable to discuss publicly. Carr applies it to comedy: comedians can widen the conversational range around controversial subjects, and the speakers add an emotional version of the model—expanding how sincere, vulnerable, or serious people are willing to be in public.
Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs
The speakers refer to Maslow’s model as a hierarchy in which basic needs such as food, shelter, safety, and belonging support higher-order self-actualization. Their critique is that many people are pushed to pursue self-actualization while lacking stable housing, friendship, or security.
Notable Quotes
"anxiety is thoughts without control. Your thoughts are just uncontrollable. And the state flow—this is control without thoughts."
"Problems are, so to speak, to say, a feature, not a flaw. Problem simply means that something needs your help attention."
"Favorable conditions never come."
Action Items
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Complete one overdue small task
Identify an uncomfortable task that takes fewer than 20 minutes: send a message, make a call, schedule an appointment, or resolve a minor admin issue. Do it today to prevent a small problem from compounding.
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Create a kept-promise list
For the next seven days, make only one small daily commitment that is fully under your control. Record completion each evening; prioritize consistency over ambition.
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Replace solo optimization with shared time
Turn one individual habit into a social one this week: invite a friend for a walk, attend a class, work from a café, join a run club, or go to a live event.
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Give your mind a useful problem
When you notice rumination, redirect attention to a bounded task with a visible next action. Write the first paragraph, outline three options, clean one area, or make the first call rather than continuing to mentally rehearse the issue.
Full Transcript
Transcript of You’re Not Depressed, You’re Living The Wrong Life - Jimmy Carr from Modern Wisdom. Auto-generated from episode audio; may contain minor errors.
How many shows are you spent the past year? Oh, maybe, oh my god, I I don't know, 250, 300, something like that. This is it. exactly, that two shows in a row evening, this increases number, and it was big innovation in my on tour, like, yes. There is no limit, I think he said that. B.B. King. I am speaking. free. Me pay for travel. And I feel exactly the same. Yes. It seems to me that The road is a hassle. AND Performance is joy. So we're doing the show at 7:00 , and then at 9:30 a.m.
most places. So it feels like one for me, one for the tax office, right? One goes to the tax authorities, The rest is all mine. Yes, in our days are almost like this . Yes. Yes, exactly after so thorough checks. What do you have? relationship with anxiety? Do you feel overload? It quite tense schedule. Oh, no. Not that I I think that if does something, then reduces the level stress, so number of shows does you are less nervous because it's like being a pilot airlines. It's like number of hours in sky.
So if you spend so much time on stage, and You know, I'm all right now. I'm taking it off. So often you like inside the show, and you never have boring, because you know, a good third of this— this is that very evening, that very show, and it is constant is changing. This is interesting. . I used to be a lot thought about jealousy and envy. For example, about how they are different. One thing I don't want, so that this person has it was the same.
And this very dark energy, truth? And there is envy, which tells you, What do you want? You you see that someone has there is something, and you say: "Oh, wow. "I want that too." AND I remember watching. on Matt Reef and Andrew Schultz, their video content in networks, they became popular, and I thought: "I should to do it. Worth it to take someone on a tour, take it off and just, you know, copy this methodology". And I did this, and I like it I really liked it.
It really changed that how I work on stage. Why is it that you don't... I mean, I was with you behind the scenes before leaving, and after a few minutes to how you have to go on stage, you snack on an apple, not too much worrying, and then come out and performing in front of 7,000 people. It's simple. experience, thanks to which Are your nerves gone? I think it's also because what it's like to be a comedian of this level—this peculiar natural selection; if I I perform in a club, people just came watch a comedy, but I'm not in the industry entertainment.
I am not in comedy business. I'm in the business of name Jimmy Carr. And people came look at mine show. So they approximately know, on What to expect. If someone is offended by this moment, it's like buy tickets for horror movie and to complain that you terrible. It's just... Well, fools. It's like...it's just not It matters. It also about those moments that can to share with the crowd, because they saw it online and they know that you you do. They are expecting this. Is everything okay?
Oh, wow. Got coffee. I don't believe it. to your happiness. Thank you. The service is simple fantastic. There is one the phrase that made make me think about intensity level with whom you may encounter during tours. Your life is not must be lighter. It should be simpler. Your the system is designed for in order to cope with stress and challenges, but not with complications. You, probably good cope with heavy things, but feel depression when everything becomes confusing. Don't write it off. the difficulty is that can be explained confusion.
It seems, what if you are you touring, focused on tours, live performances, get there on time next show, are you in good mood and perform well—this everything seems to be one whole line, unlike attempts to combine this with something second, third , fourth or fifth. Well, I think it's still and in the fact that it is not just repetition. You you ask: how much there were concerts last year? You you answer: well, 250 or 300, and it sounds a bit boring, like this the same thing again and again again.
And in fact it is not so; this is never there is repetition, it is iteration. So you barely noticeable each time change this. You You change jokes, you trying new jokes at every performance, on each individual show. At the end of the show you always try something new. So this is it, that's enough, that's a lot, um, intellectually stimulates, when, when you are writing. Why do you think? people get stuck in excessive thinking? Um, well, come on, come on let's think about it, this will be...It's like to try to decide cocaine problem, sniffing it.
It's just like Right. How, how, considering that, What exactly are you asking? The king of reflections. Um, I I don't know. I think this is, this, this is anxiety, I guess , that's what it is. Excessive thinking in, in, in a broader sense. And my view on this such: anxiety is thoughts without control. Your thoughts are just uncontrollable. And the state flow—this is control without thoughts. And therefore on the scene you are in flow state. You, you You know what you're doing. You Do you know what they will be?
jokes. They simply, you don't even need to think about it. It next step. AND then people say with you, and you just You remain yourself. You you just feel free. So it becomes, it's like a state of flow. You are not worried, no. about what. So find something where you can do it to do—that is what it is secret ingredient . Find what you need like to do, where can you be at in this state of flow. Thoughts without control— this is interesting observation. I I think this is helplessness.
Many people have feeling like I can't to embody one's will in world. I can't to guarantee that this thing, uh, will behave like this, as I want. But if I am enough I think about it, it's like the same as prepare for this. I, I, I, I wonder if we, um, Mark Fisher wrote about it beautifully: about privatization anxiety and stress, and the idea that we we accuse individual in trouble with mental health. When, if look at the numbers now, if look at statistics of that how many people suffer from depression and anxiety, I think I have to.
to conclude that this is public problem. We are not we arrange our society so that this, uh, contributed good mental health health. People incredibly tense uh, in the world, and this the problem of collective actions. It's not what you are. you can decide alone. If you are depressed young man, you you can't solve this problem on your own. IN you are scattered identity. If Do you want to be happy? go and make them happy other people. But it's a vicious circle, isn't that right? Because that, what you need is to rely on others people.
But considering that you are among the smaller number of people than ever before, in you are not like that level of cohesion, which would be several thousands of years ago. Look, just look what we are did. Now everything only for the individual, Yes? So what once was a game of football in Wednesday evening, now became personal a record in the gym. Well, it's isolating. And the thought about what you do every day you count your steps, instead of go for a walk with friend—it is very isolates.
So me I had to think. about, you know, about manosphere. Um, you know, talked a lot about this is the last 6 months after the brilliant documentary Louis Theroux film. And you? you look at this and you think: well, that's it wrong medicine for the right problem. There is definitely something here. problem. So I have to I mean, what kind of gang am I, for drinking, for gambling. Mhm. Allow me, allow me to show me argument, okay? Therefore, for gangs—where they have to be men? Together.
Men are very good know how to control other men. IN bad gang reputation, because some of They shoot people. and trade drugs. OK, but it is very small interest. Mainly these are guys with others guys, you know, they hang out, control one one, and it could be extremely positive force. And I very much support booze. I mean, at Scott Galloway's the best phrase about this. Risk for liver nothing compared to risk social isolation. Therefore, I believe that we it is worth lowering the threshold alcohol consumption.
I created such youth clubs in all over the world. There is jukeboxes, billiard tables, and they watch sports on the big one TV. This is very fun. They are called pubs, and They are everywhere, right? And to us should just accept this is what to say: youth clubs already exist. They are called pubs. We should lower the age alcohol consumption before 16, because if you Do you think that 16-year-olds don't drink, then you live in damn fairy tale. At least in the Great Britain. I don't know.
how much Do people in the US drink at 16? Quite a few. Very many. Yes. Yes. People drink at 16. Here's what to do. Legalize use alcohol from the age of 16. But not for individuals persons. You need to come. with three friends. So that it could be possible to get drunk in company, and not alone. Yes. Can I have a drink? Well, you won't get drunk nonsense. There are four of you. You will to control one thing one. Watch out for that. so that you don't get kicked out pub.
Sometimes I...I have there are friends in a group of people. It can be worse. Yes. But maybe I I'd better know that they are together in in a room with others people of all ages and adults around. Better this way than them They will drink in the park. I think that now a huge problem with gambling, when people play online, do sports betting. It like an attempt to beat system, because you don't Do you see another way out? Yes? We need to involve young generation. I I think it's gambling.
games are more global things. This is a risk for the sake of yourself, the risk of choosing career. This is a big one. risk when you you declare yours intentions and show that You are ambitious. I don't know. Me seems young generation needs the support they They don't have it now. You know what hope is? buy a house and create family? It's not that they don't want to, they just don't create for this conditions. I I think that for people under 30 years old should not be taxed.
Saw Rory Sutherland's idea that the first 250 thousands of pounds have be tax-free? This is a great idea. Yes. So, you just you get these 250,000 pounds. Without taxes, and then they are accrued. This is a great idea. It great idea. I have on mind you, up to 30 years old—this the period when you just trying take your place. So Bill Perkins offers to give children inherit at 30 years, because if... The book "Die with Zero" —this is simply brilliant . This is much more, than just about money.
It's about what and when worth doing in life. Right. So the idea that young people feel anxious... Yes. Perfectly. So, we wrong arranged our society. It's like we turned it upside down. pyramid of needs Maslow. You know, that one pyramid, where originally food, shelter and security, and we are trying to self-actualize without friends or own home. Yes. So, 200 years that's why people were afraid hunger, but proud in your name, and now they, you know, caloric secured, but alarming. This, this, this is not very good situation.
It's like, I suppose, immediately leads to thoughts about Buddhism, because I believe that happiness is time machine. I think Depression is thinking about the past, but anxiety —this is a concern about future. Mm. At the moment you usually feel good. But, you know, in people have no feeling, that they can do it can do, they can just to be in the moment. Curious about the condition flow, because, at least in my experience, when you are in the deepest in a state of flow, you actually not much Do you remember that?
happened. When you look back and you think about what did at the time, I think , it could be the same. At least when I performed, we gave show with an interval of a few days in Sydney, in Darling Harbour, a few months ago. And when you dive in on the show, someone says, "How "Did you pass that part?" Or "How was that...? And I have no idea what happened." Yes. You were in the moment. Yes. Because you cleaned up. yourself out of the equation. And this, I don't know.
It is interesting that we say as if we want more memories, right? We we want time expanded so that we could look back back. But the most pleasant way to spend the present moment is the one that we won't be able to remember in the future. It so strange paradox. Yes. It interesting. Yes, sweet. But, I mean, The worst thing is to say: "Oh, well, I definitely I remember what happened. but I remember that I It wasn't there. I remember that worried about what will continue, or was afraid something, or was distracted.
I actually wasn't there moment." It seems in the worst way to spend Isn't that... It's like... Eckhart Tolle, right? You know, that story about how he was terribly depressed in his 20s years. I mean, really, well, I was thinking about to end it everyone. And he sat on park bench, park bench. AND then thought: "I don't I can live with myself. "by yourself". And saying this, he asked: well, who is "I" "and who is "I myself"? Stop- but. And I just realized, what can be done somehow to separate these two things , to go beyond their limits, and there is a certain balance in so that sometimes to separate oneself from your thoughts.
I really think so. all this anxiety— about control, right? It strange, because none Anxiety won't change of what is to happen. But control is, you know, an illusion from from the very beginning. I already I said this before. I think I blame Plato and the people of Zarathustra for that, that they came up with the idea paradise and perfection. There is no paradise and perfection. That's all. ...I am on the side of nature in on this issue. Need accept chaos: you are not you can control what is happening, just how you react to it you react.
So everything is very quickly becomes Stoicism, because you you just say, "Well, I I am only responsible for your reaction to these things." I definitely I think that a lot people are being accused himself. And to some extent I I understand why, because I want to feel that you have influence over that what is happening. I want to be that one. a person who is everything controls. Not I want to hang out. from someone else. But it is worth putting good for you question: I am in depression or my life Depressing, huh?
For example, I Is it worrying or mine? life is a continuous anxiety? Is it depression or just sorrow? You know, if this is caused circumstances, then I I think it's sadness. I think much it is more acceptable to say "I am depressed" than " I am sad. Mhm. But if it's because of circumstances and you can to do something about it, that's great. I lately about I was thinking something. Okay. I am not I believe in generations. And you you won't find more fan of Neil Howe than I am , well, that guy who coined the term " millennials", but I don't I really believe in generations.
. In my opinion, to push a whole group people in one box —that's about it as absurd as horoscopes. So you you see, the idea is because there are people who have the right to everything, and are ambitious in every group. I mean, Donald Trump and Joe Biden—one generation. They are very different freaks, right? ? So you see: there are actually young people people who have the right for everything, and there is very ambitious people. AND the difference will be in because where you are now and where do you want to get in.
If you Do you want something with this? do, you are ambitious. AND if you want to someone else something from did this, if this theirs responsibility, then it's a feeling confidence in own righteousness. This is pretty good. working definition. THERE ARE a lot, you know meet young people people who just wonderful, and all of them rowing together a comb with this nonsense about " millennials". But it has there must be some kind of limit. And I I really think that with sometimes occur some changes, right?
? In groups, from ancient times times until today, Changes are happening. AND if you just put these random boundaries to divide them, doesn't that make sense? I don't think so. helps. I don't think so. that it is useful. Um, me too I think that, well, Listen, I'm like I contradict myself, saying that we should to do something for the young generation. I I think we need change the approach, because, according to Essentially, what did we do? We have raised the age graduation from school in Great Britain under 21 year, because now it's a must you need to have a diploma.
Yes. Everyone, you know, goes to university, and university diploma is a subject luxury. It's like handbag from Louis Vuitton, Yes? This is exactly what he is. And if he is in everyone, his value, of course, decreases. So, we we approach that, What is Peter talking about? Turchin—about the end civilizations. He brilliant, you know Peter Turchin, right? You probably had it. at the show. So, he says, that there are two reasons why society is destroyed: one is wealth inequality , which we almost reinforced now through social media, because everyone sees everything constantly.
And then he speaks about overproduction of elites . So, when you you create too much elites, and they are not they get what they want promised. So, if you working hard at school, you get diploma in good standing university, and then you say: "Well, where is mine?" house with four bedrooms?" "Where is my wife and family?" "Why "Didn't that work?" Then this elite, which feels cheated system and what it has silently promised, becomes a counter-elite. And this counter-elite fights against systems and tries it to destroy.
Therefore I I think that's why we we are currently at the beginning of the revolution. I I think this is one of reasons why in America culture victims more more common than say, in the Great Britain. And this is because, what if you grow up in Great Britain, you really don't they say you can to be anyone. This type of thinking " blue sky", panoramic vision, I I don't think so. characteristic of the British . Likewise, if you deviate from way, this works "high altitude syndrome" "poppy" and you trying to quickly to cut down Whereas in the USA , despite the fact that it horrible, misogynistic, judgmental, xenophobic country, who tries everything to suppress, American dream still perceived.
This is part of the structure society, I think, in which majority believes. And this means, what if you did everything right, and then grew up and became an adult , and the world did not give you what was promised in childhood, you are completely rightly you feel indignant, type: gay, Well, I think, where is mine? I I think this is Great Britain, I don't I think it has you want it to be some kind of social mobility. Do you want? to be, you want, by essentially, so that your children achieved more than you in life.
You, that's it, What do you want? But in fact, I I suppose this is and the children also want to achieve more than you. Yes. Of course. I think I I think that regarding that, you know, from political point sight, I am less I care about equality. You know, Peter Tour is very worries about the presence of equality. I I'm more worried. abundance. You know what? preparing for the future? It will be, um, "Starry "Star Wars" or "Star Wars" "way" in 50 years? And I would really like to believe, what could it be" Star Trek.
I would wanted to believe that there is abundance. Although, even if he will be, we will get used to it, because the world in which we live now if you showed your life great-grandfather, he would I thought you were emperor. Habit is another one drug. Yes. You just you get used to these things, Yes? So, but you know, rich and poor—this always relative, and such and such; we, you know, but the idea is that everyone's needs secured, because actually people think they want more money, but In fact, money is what gives you that, what are we really we want: good medicine, good education and, uh, the required quantity calories, and, you know, something else.
until you start add status here, Yes? Because one of the main reasons why do you want to have money —is to have more of them, than the neighbor's. Yes. Well, I think so. someone's security physical needs in in society—this the problem of collective actions. Make sure that there is insurance that does not turns into hammock. But you don't can you satisfy metaphysical needs people. Mhm. So the difference was b, say, between a Casio watch, which keeps time perfectly, and a shiny Rolex, which shows that, hey, you achieved something or something such, —this additional the value you you get from that What does this mean to you?
and not because...well, you know, you you get into such a the trap where we full of mimetic desires. We don't know. What do we want? And skills not to impress others people—this is real superpower. Yes. This is what really affects quality of your life. If you you know what you want, you don't need make an impression on others. This is really simplifies life. That would be great. gift. I don't know, How the hell, to give it to people, but the gift of opportunity to say that you don't need anyone to impress, to free many from false desires, from distractions, which they really are not want to do, but only do for appearance.
This is about hidden and visible indicators that we are talking about with George all the time we are talking. Well, that's interesting. Getting things is fun. Having things is not fun. Get things—it's fun. Mhm. And this is a strange lesson. You're talking about these 2D and 3D lessons, right? This is a real 3D lesson. You have to feel it. from my own experience. Right. You seem to pass... Perkins was mine. the first major 2D-3D lesson. I read the book, and then invited him to the show.
It was 2D, and then, maybe 2.5 D lesson: sit down with him and discuss ideas about how to structure your life, as to focus on entertainment and spending money wisely, so to get closer to other people. And then we finished. episode, and he asked: "What will you do?" now?" And I said: " I'll probably go home, I will write notes to this episode, I will download the file and I will send it to the editor. he says: "Do you want to go to do something wakesurfing?" Well, Of course I do.
Let's go, let's go down. On The driver was waiting for us. We got on the boat to captain who was in swimming trunks and a towel. Then we all do it did, and after went to his house on the lake— the most expensive house , sold in Austin. And then we did something else. And on the way to the airport where he is from flew on his jet , his driver threw me home. I thought: "Oh, that was lesson in 3D format. « It could be read the book 50 times and not to get the same tangible, real experience." Of course.
More precisely than this . What should be done, yes this...Yes. What you need worth doing now— although it is difficult to comprehend. I think for young people it is not easy. I think it seems like ... as if the restrictions are very are being released. Right. That's right. When you decide, What do you want to do? What will you do with it? Who to be, life becomes very simple, because you stop thinking about how to live, and you start simply live. Well, yes. Apparently, an analogy might be a boat in the middle of the ocean: if you just row with all your might and you know the direction, in Whichever way you move, it's...
Yes, probably. This is a quote from Mark. Aurelia, right? If you don't know, Where are you going, none? there will be no wind passing. Oh, well, yes. Yes. Not too different, but I suppose that if you also have to do it yourself choose the path, you lost in thought: "I swam five miles in that direction, but, maybe it was worth it turn a little right". So yes, David's new book Epstein is about exactly that. It's about strength. limitations and how they stimulate creativity. And so, people think that want to have in life as much as possible options.
Hormozi is good about this. says. I met with Hormozi for the first time in days, but the feeling was it's like we're old friends. I can't imagine. two people who would be more in nature different than you Alex. Yes, we probably had a bit strange looking dinner. Um, yes, that's it. It was very interesting. It it was really interesting, because his main idea in that the options too many choices, and if you never have them use, then What's the point of this? I like it to get, you know, MBA, Master's degree, and then a PhD in business.
It's like: no, just start your own business. It doesn't matter if he burn out, start another. The map is not territory. Come out and Do the work. Yes. I think this is another one. a challenge for young people. For everyone. Damn it youth, this applies anyone in this world: your ability to speak, unlike from actions, now developed as never before. You are what you are. do, not what you say. And, unfortunately, conversations about the same thing right compete for the same resources, right? You need to distribute them correctly.
Yes. Not tell me about your priorities. Show me yours. diary for the past week. Yes. This is what you actually did. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I I think if the prospect of what you can just to speak or to declare publicly or privately, by yourself to myself: "I will compose this plan". I can handle it. It one of the problems excessive obsessions productivity: it becomes the goal, not means for achieving the goal. This a kind of " productive masturbation » continues, and they rushed. Yes. They ran away.
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Before that time as an insult is finally formed , most people already forget what started at all conversation. And I think that the same applies cases where we do not we stick to our own promises. When do you have was this plan, you made an agreement with himself yourself a long time ago. You are not Do you remember this at all? but arises hidden distrust to what you will do promised, and no one the other does not know about it. It's just you. This is yours.
relationship with oneself yourself. I said that I will do it, but not appeared, and again not appeared. Through for a while you you start to be indignant at that part of yourself that makes plans, because believe that they will be realized. Yes. Well, I suppose it's like the presence of The press does not give cubes you confidence. Confidence is given by that you come every day to the gym. This is the one you who care about myself. I think this is that's it. Yes. It very interesting, I think, what is really all depends on compound interest, because compound interest on money—it's a miracle.
When you look at Buffett and his wealth, most of them was built thanks to time—it a factor that people don't take into account; he very smart investor, but actually Time was crucial. 90% of his wealth was accumulated after 60 years. That's right, exactly. But compound interest for your skills—this something incredible. If you repeat actions, if you work, then results over time are impressive. But this brings me back again to the idea that your goals always will lose to yours systems. Everyone has great goals. Everyone big ambitions, but What are you going to do?
to do tomorrow? What is that? a small matter, which can be distinguished, which is manageable and which can be to do today? Why I love what I do am I doing? You know, in these are mostly jokes, and write them comparatively easy, because you can just sit down and write one. And then you test its. There is no point. discuss this. There is no point. to arrange a meeting where you disassemble him with friends. Just get out, find an audience and Tell me. They they will tell you, it's funny this or not.
A wonderful cycle feedback. I think the problem is most others projects in that they are not can you do it so fast update the product and get feedback from audience. You are not can you find out if worth releasing t-shirt design, having made only one small step. Go through the whole creation process t-shirt design, print it, see how much people will want it to buy. Well, let's go. let's update this again. Iterative nature This is pretty cool. Yes, this, this, this more difficult. This is difficult.
I I mean, I'm very happy, as far as I'm concerned, to be in a business where if the public has it I like them. they tell you right away. Mhm. And they can't not to tell you either . Even if people can you to dislike, but if you tell me funny enough joke, I think, reaction It just works. Well, even if that's the case , my favorite sound in comedies—it's still the one laughter from cognitive dissonance when there is laughter, followed by deep where are they shocked by themselves because what you just did.
No, I think you You're laughing because you're... laughter that seems betrays you. I think you will laugh. It as if a deeper level you. I guess I really am I can a little to be wrong here. If you really, really like someone I don't like you either. you decide to sit in third row from with crossed arms, and You say: "Come on, "Funny man." " Make me laugh. I I think you can. to force oneself or to convince oneself not to to love someone who doing well with his business in comedies.
I don't think so. that's the same as much the same is true for music. I think that a real hit pierces yours protect even stronger than comedy . I think something less strong is conversation, Yes? Conversation between two people on stage or some kind of performance, or something like that. It was not even that interesting. I didn't think so. fascinating. Comedy deeper, and the music is still deeper. It's like art and artist. And is it possible, or Can you separate them? Can someone who did a terrible thing, and you know what they are did a terrible thing, can they still to be funny?
Or can they still to be musical gifted? I think you probably can you differentiate it? I think this is probably normally. Peter Kronn has question. Who could you be? to be absent your worries? It made me to think about this, this, this is real Okay, right? Like, this, this... Who could you be? in the absence of their own worries? There is one wonderful phrase, which I often think about: "You can do anything, "Whatever you want." You just will have to to encounter consequences. M it's like, it's real powerful, because it's about that you have absolute freedom, but you have to carry for her responsibility, as with freedom of speech— There is freedom, but There are consequences too.
And I often remember Saint Lawrence. Do you know the story about Saint Lawrence? No . He is the patron saint comedy, and the Holy Lavrenty, uh, his burned, it seems, emperor with very strange name. Something on like voldemort this emperor burned him alive on fire, and when it burned, Lawrence said: " Turn me over. This "The side is ready." And this makes me think about courage, right? It very bold to say this is terrible moment, but we we remember him just because he is said. You think: in this is a certain part courage.
Like, yes, no, say it. Say it. Good luck. Ugh. Some people don't will like it. All It will be okay. Who could you be? if I had thrown away my worries? We are from George constantly we are talking about that many people restrains marriage confidence, not lack of competence. Their belief in themselves is the biggest limiter of what they can achieve. Yes. But I have to meaning that confidence comes—as he said Mozi: confidence comes when you you give to the world irrefutable evidence of who you are.
So the point is that find something small, what can you do with with what you have, where you are you are. You may regret it. about the first two things. " If only I had other", "If only I were in another place". But acceptance of reality of where you are and work with this it seems very powerful because you you just start, and you you don't choose where begin; you choose just where to end. What is your relationship with gratitude? I practice a lot. gratitude, and, I think this is Mr.
Eckhart said that if you had read just one prayer, and that would be "thank you", this would be enough. I think it's in the apple itself. I believe this is the only one option, because attitude more important than position. Where are you located? in the world—has no value. Your Attitude is everything. AND the only thing that can to change one's attitude— this feeling gratitude. So in time and spacious for us lucky to be here and now, and us lucky to have friends that we have. We are lucky to live in the world in which we we live.
It extraordinary that we we occupy such privileged position. And I think, what to admit it constantly—wonderful. Can you do it? find time for celebration when Are you moving so fast? Yes. I think that celebration and gratitude somehow interconnected. In my opinion, if do it right, celebration is gratitude in action. How do you arrange it? party, you are invited everyone, celebrate, and in there is something to this beautiful—this connection with others people and common pastime I am not I think it is possible to real to celebrate alone.
I think, I feel gratitude together with others are also very good . You know, sit down and to talk to someone about how wonderful it is. This is really nice. Many people find it difficult, especially in the hottest periods, to break away from things to think about about them and realize, how lucky they were to be in such a situation situations. Yes. Something like Chairman Mao, right? You won't smell the scent. roses, jumping on horses. I think I should. collect quotes Chairman Mao. It would be worth publishing such a book.
I am just I thought about it. Assemble the book is incredible wise things, said terrible people. That would be nice. collection of quotes in the style of: "Well, I guess it's broken too." the clock shows the right time twice per day. It would be nice: quote on one page, and the author is on the next one. Yes. Oh, peace before face of fluidity being. Wow. Hitler. AT, devil. Devil. Yes. Devil. He ruined it. I have this impression. Yes. But although he is not like that said.
It doesn't matter. This is really interesting. challenge, right? When everything is going well, you busy and not pay special attention attention—at this very time gratitude, probably the most accessible, but you so loaded, calendar crowded, you move forward and excited about the future. So find time for thoughts about the present is enough hard. And when the pace slows down and things are going a bit well worse, then you regret not having that gratitude earlier, which we could to lean on, and trying to remember its hindsight. It's also about perception.
In how You think about everything. As about problems, right? Problems are, so to speak, to say, a feature, not a flaw. Problem simply means that something needs your help attention. And I think people have a crazy opinion, if they will think that one day their the problems will end . They are with everything they will cope, and that's it will be ready. But this, Of course not. You just go to new level. Everything that you do—this you climb on level above, where more difficult tasks. If you can to solve very complex problems, in Are you okay?
this world. You know, Elon Musk— trillionaire. Why? Because he solved some very complicated problems, and on this you can earn money, right? So, the problems are feature, not blemish. They are wonderful. It simply means that something needs your help attention. You must be grateful for that. To someone I need your time. Someone needs to you answered this call. You need to deal with this matter. Boredom, I I think it's... boredom—it's underrated peace. You are just staying. in a moment of calm. Nothing. is happening. Perfectly. It happens infrequently.
I can achieve that. What are they getting at? Tibetan monks, in waiting room Detroit airport. Nothing. is happening. If only you don't get yours phone. Yes, that's normal. Simply, yes. Well, this one the thing is that we we carry it with us everywhere phone now. It's like mobile labor tracking camp our every mood. Mhm. Madness. I was in the gym couple months ago. Of course, there was. Look at you. Yes. And one of mine told friends to me, as a wife constantly complaining, what does he use by phone at night, constantly sends message, something organizes, leads business or something else.
AND he invented a lot successful, but, in my opinion opinion, philosophically quite interesting excuse: "I have a mind that loves to solve problems. I just I try to give "He has good tasks." I think many people's brain tuned to problem solving. Yes. But only for some there are great problems, which they are going to solve this. Well, that's what I'm talking about. I think about anxiety. My the mind often works on full speed. I I wake up often... from the fact that you, probably would be called panic attack, somewhere at 4 or 5 in the morning.
I I wake up, and my the mind just works. I am starting. to be concerned with different things, and this is often counterfactual thoughts: I'm worried about that. something will go wrong, that someone will get hurt. You just starting to think about crazy things. AND if I say, like, "Oh, no, we need write a joke about Starmer or Andy Burnham or something like that ", you're like, "Okay, "Okay," and you give matter. so using the action as an antidote for anxiety. Yes, I like it. this idea is not bad heals.
Very difficult to worry about the future when you you feel that You move towards him. AND yes, this moment from a brain that solves problems, interesting, because I think how much people themselves they are cheating because they have a brain that loves to solve problems, but good ones problems for There is no solution. So they focus on politics, porn, former or on situation that is beyond their control in some distant one the country they are going to are not related. Well, isn't the news... about this?
If you tried to create something to cause mental disorders, you would force a person see the problem and would deprive her possibilities of something change, right? AND that's what it means read about the Middle East, right? You you just think that it is complete chaos and nothing nothing good luck dealing with this what can we do about this do. We do nothing. we can, you don't care You can do something about it. Yes. Because I don't know whether would it be better or worse, if you knew that really nothing you can do— for example, to Earth An asteroid is flying.
Nobody can do anything. to do with this. It the illusion that someone can fix it, but not you. Yes. We are not in this game. This...yes, I think so. what is the question agencies—there is the broader problem: we, perhaps we discover empathy for people who we like, and provide subjectivity to those who we don't like it. Imagine, there are two marches. : one is far-right guys, skinheads in army boots . We attribute them subjectivity. If they throw bricks out the window, we say: " Yes, lock them up and throw away the key, right?".
And then another march—people advocate social justice, right? And they also throw a brick in the window. We we say: "Well, you know, this is the language of the streets, the voice those who are not heard." Here it is: one we give empathy, and others— subjectivity. AND actually, it's worth it to give both. Everyone needs it freedom of action and empathy. For example, the idea is to to believe that people will cope, and that each of us has, well, your role. Of course you you are responsible for what did you do, but you is also part of situation that you brought this.
For example, motives that you are there led. But yes, it is question of problems. I I really think so. I wonder how many people only need best problems for solution. Everything they eat need—this to focus your time and attention to something more valuable. AND yes, regarding the situation abroad, I passed returned from a week ago meditation retreat. I spent 7 days without a phone, almost all the time in silence. I returned, I flew from San Francisco and entered the terminal departure. One of the tips, which we were given— to dress sunglasses and headphones, because you actually a week spent in silence, without screens and anything another.
This is too much. many incentives to go from zero to one hundred. I sat down in some airport restaurant. I looked at the screens, and there are forest fires are raging in Europe. It was the first thing I saw on the screen after the retreat, and I I remember this strangely. feeling of compression within. I am like this: I need to get the hose. Why? Yes. What the hell? Do they show this at all? Is this newsworthy? Well, as if so. But what is this? gives?
This creates the illusion that we are aware events, but in reality this is just mind-blowing our nervous system and makes you worry through everything in a row. Amazingly. And yet I want to be informed about what is happening in world. It seems I, probably dependent on this. Me I like to know that is happening. Me I like to think. about what they can be a solution. Mhm. But I think you, You know, you can talk about it. to talk, but you really can't to influence what is happening.
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It timeline.com/modernwisdom and the code modernwisdom during payment . Regarding gratitude, in Michael Smocks has this phrase: "It's hard for me" to celebrate their achievement, because in In my opinion, I believe that was obliged to them achieve". Many people who achieve high results, have a feeling that the taller you are you rise, the more It hurts more to fall. IN as you you are getting better, your standards constantly are growing, so you "you will always be" "loser" compared to the way you think, you must act. It good, because it continues to push you work harder, to improve, but it also means, that success is not an excuse for celebration.
It just minimal acceptable level productivity, and all , which is less than success, becomes a failure. Yes. Well, I think so. then you need to be in a state of well, let's say, syndrome an impostor once in 18 months or two years. Needed constantly evolve, to find oneself in a situation, when you think, "Wow, I can't believe that I did it, it was good". Uh, like, a little bit to push oneself, try to do something different. Is it difficult when you already close to the top of its skills?
Well, it depends. of what "game" you are in participate. You you can change games, you can do a little bit of everything otherwise, therefore this, you know, I mean , my business...I work in the service sector, right? I I create what people need; I I make them happy. and no one seems to remembers none my joke, but they remember which ones I have emotions in them. called. AND today's show is nothing more than an advertisement my next one performance. I at least I started to perceive it that way.
. And now you trying to find these moments. By the last few years the show has changed, and now in everyone the speeches are as follows moments. Sometimes, someone asks something, you you start communicate, and this becomes a little more sincere, although it's always the same sweeten the pill laughter. Why did you change it? I, I , I think it's... I even I don't know what happened. I I don't know what's there. happened, but I suddenly started communicating with the audience in the hall, and we started to install The connection is a little different.
It was really perfectly. And people...I think... comedy is…me like this one expression: this is the shortest distance between two people. I often do. I think I already did. told you about this, that your best friend— this is the person you are with you have the least filters. Yes. So, if you meet someone on the plane and you say, "Wow, I'm watching World Championship. "Good game, right?" Nothing, right? Surface level. AND if you say: "God my, you must see this hemorrhoid. "This is incredible." It like...you know, it's already another level of communication, you're just acting like this person without no filters.
It your best friend in world. And if you you treat the audience as well, it comes back to you tenfold. People feel, "Oh, okay, he treats us like adults." He says what he thinks funny, and between us a real one arises connection. And now everything more often people don't talking about things in media, in mainstream media. So there is gap, so that to talk about what is happening in the world. Isn't it interesting that you are you trying to do through comedy —to voice what, perhaps many thinks, or not even realized that thinks, and to say it with to some extent fearlessness, that makes you human, which pushes the boundaries in in this regard?
Well, I I think that window Overton, about which people speak in politics—this is the idea of that there is a certain the border of the leftmost and most right-wing views that are still acceptable to express at dinner, right? This is the Overton window. for conversations, right? And in politics in recent times it's been a few years has expanded significantly both left and right , for better or for worse. I think comedy does the same for communion. I think, the real benefit of going to a comedy show the show is not necessarily in those two hours that you spend, laughing at jokes.
These are the conversations you you are driving along the road home when your " conversation window Overton" became wider. I don't think so. people are so open talked about sex and politics before George appeared Carlin and Richard Pryor. I think they expanded this window, and, you know, someone on like Chappelle now expanding the boundaries of what can be said and what can't be said speak. So, you have there are these, well, I don't even I know what to call it— hot topics, insights, which may be somewhat controversial, flammable or the limits of what people usually ready discuss.
But there is also another dimension, this certain level sincerity, seriousness, emotionality and, perhaps the depths; unforgiving, self-deprecating, sometimes naked look at that that moves people, that moves you, or how someone in the hall relates to something. And it's almost like another type of window Overton, who separated from the first. Not everything it should be, you know, just talking about extremely controversial things. I very happy to talk on "explosive" topics and try to joke about them. But I also very happy to be serious and sincere in this.
There is a certain level of seriousness, which usually perceived society, but there is also level of seriousness and depth, which goes far beyond these boundaries. I am a little obsessed with the idea that people are desperate strive authenticity, but at the same time have allergy to sincerity. People like it the idea that someone just remains itself and speaks openly your truth. But when you see your father, who burst into tears because left him wife, many users the internet arises some kind of allergy reaction, despite the fact that we supposedly want to people showed their true essence.
I think if you are you going to do something that at least a little bit out of place within the usual framework, you better turn it off comments section. Other people's opinion about me—it's not mine case. just do it your business, you have their audience, they are coming, enjoy, and we having a good time, great, like someone, you know, trying to cast a shadow on this and says: well, how is it possible to talk about serious things if he tells offensive jokes? Okay, well, I have to meaning that we all consist of many facets.
You understand what I'm talking about. me, right? is classic "Overton window", and there is still this emotional " "Overton window", that is, how deep are you ready to go on air how sharp could be yours jokes. and how sincere could be yours conversations, and there is a limit here, not even a limit, but certain expected the bar that people follow really annoying ears, pay attention and react to it much livelier. And I I think that one of areas where you can to delve deeper, this is: " wow, he really dared to say about it." Or when you sit with Are you a friend?
talking to a friend for dinner, and she, you know , fluctuates between normal level emotionality and turns into that which does not occur like that often. Think about it. you are the one trying to decide in comedy show? Laughter —this is the main indicator for comedy, right? Do you want to so that there are three loud laughs a minute, and Do you want to have one? frequency of jokes, but also silence. Don't be afraid. silence. For example, silence, when is it coming a touching moment, and each a little is thinking.
Good. Perfectly. This can also be. But it's nice that everything changes because it makes the process very fascinating for me. that you don't do one thing the same thing again. This is not it looks like you you show the same thing the show itself. that we have like different shades. Certainly. you too you strive to some extent optimize memorability, so that people say: "Yes, I really liked that feeling", instead of to ask: "And What were you doing? How is this? was going to go look at this artist of the past year?
And you're like: "But I ", damn it, I don't remember" . Well, memorability important because if someone chooses to come and to see you live —this is a big deal, truth? But in reality , I think people want to go to festivals, listen to music, want to watch performances, but also as we were going to meet earlier around the fire and talked, right? AND then we were going around the radio. and we talked, and then they gathered around the TV and talked, and even something like " Royal Family", Do you remember that one?
sitcom in the Big Britain, right? It's like a distant memory, like people watched TV like this, because now we have phones and people themselves by itself. They They are watching something of their own. They are watching. own stream. Even if they are in in one living room together, every person looking at his screen , which no one else doesn't look. And I I guess: "Hey, you "Did you see that?" but yes, you did. right. "Royal" family", which Americans definitely not will understand, but people sat around TV together as family, and you watched shows that you don't necessarily liked them because loved mom.
So you you say: "Oh, I guess we "let's see" Desperate housewives ", or What was there? There is only one TV, not five televisions on room. I recently I was thinking about this, about the idea. social networks and problems around them, the big picture. When I was at school, there was a time when people said that Native American peoples had faith that if someone will take a picture of them, that's steal their soul. Yes? And I remember how thought: "Oh, this madness. "This pointless. They think that their photo steal their soul.
AND now I think so, probably not one photo, but a thousand a day— it will do. That's right. will do it. It will tear you away from that , who are you? You will become alienated from oneself. And then I even thought about language this. This is not hiding. These are the networks and webs. Internet. How is that? It's a spider's web, right? M-hm. This is the internet. What they make nets and cobwebs? They catch people. That he does. I think Huxley was right. regarding this.
Our He will not take power from us. some ruler. I think , we will give it to her ourselves for cheap dopamine, and Aldous Huxley said, what is "soma", that is a pill, right, and he even had it here radio. It's simple. another type of pill. So there is no equivalent to that dealing with people like slaves forced them not working properly persistently, as I wish they would rebelled, and sometimes were lazy. But if you will succeed create a system where people themselves want to work for you like this as persistently as you wish that, stimulating them in the final result , then you will force them continue to exhaust oneself, working harder more.
I think here similar situation, but concerning distraction, voluntary transfer of your information and your attention. You don't need to demand this from people. You just need align incentives so that so that they themselves wanted this for you pay. Yes, I mean that this is really interesting time. I think we haven't yet. absolutely...it's very new technology. These new technology appear. We must somehow integrate them into our society. I think that in the end the trajectory will be ascending and everything will be better, but we need learn to work with these things.
I have on mind you, AI is another the thing that everyone is talking about they say. You know, we are not quite there yet understood what it was. I think AI is like instrument: everyone can sit down piano and make a sound , but it takes time, attention and practice to direct this to creating a symphony, isn't that right? This, this, this is like tool. We will use this tool, but how exactly? And at this moment he is very early stages. The thing is because my opinion about AI is like this: I am not religious person.
I I don't think we were. created in the image God's. But I think that we wanted so much, for God to exist. What created it for in his own image. He omniscient, almighty, can works miracles and lives in cloud. Well, what am I talking about? I think that's exactly right. It Hegel's idea and nature that arose hundreds of years ago. The idea that God was not during Big bang, but The universe is a device for the creation of God. AND that we are the Universe, who knows himself himself.
Everyone is very amazed by AI because they forgot, What are we ourselves? We are significantly impressed by AI. AI is very good at left-hemisphere things. Very good at left-brained things . But right-brained things...left hemisphere perceives, and the right— comprehends. These are all ideas. Ian McGilchrist, the idea that Gestalt, integrity, complicated things are those that what he can't do. However, he is wonderful. copes with complicated. So, in in a certain sense, maybe this will save us everyday routine and will allow to be more humane, to engage in more creative, meaningful and interesting things that force us to feel bigger connection.
This is the dream. Yes, that's exactly my dream. They offer it to us. I think many people so forgotten about side of yours existence, related with communication that if it appears threat that routine will take away—and that's completely doesn't mean that it the only thing that will happen is isn't that right? Quite maybe it will take and everything else too. Well, yes, but we see only those works that will be lost, therefore that they already exist. We don't see those of the works that will appear, because by definition they does not exist yet.
Mhm. So it's like this situation:" Well, we are now in "predicament" , but that's it It happened before. It not the first time. Industrial revolution in fact did physical force outdated. You I don't need this anymore. for tillage or to create things. You don't physical is required power. Machines do all this for us. And now it's taking away part of the routine in office work. But, we hope, creativity will remain something purely human. Favorable conditions never come. There are always a lot of things that distract us from work.
We always Will we fall in love? we quarrel, we search work or are we afraid of it lose, get sick or we are recovering, we are watching public affairs . If you can afford it, we will always wait, until it ends some kind of distraction, before we can to really get down to business for the case. The only ones who achieves a lot— these are those who strive knowledge so much strongly looking for them even when conditions are unfavorable. Favorable conditions never come. Yes, it really is.
apt, right? But there is this feeling that in the future my problems will disappear, and I will finally be able to to take on the real one the matter, instead of to think that this is it the life I live. I will always be to encounter problems. Never The time will come when they will not be. How to pass video game and get to level, where more there are no enemies. M, this is it There is life. Yes. Well, you you want people to have some idea about the future so that they wanted to create families so that they wanted to live a full life life.
You know, there is shocking statistics regarding the abortion rate in Great Britain. Have you heard about this? I don't know. So, it seems that every third viable pregnancy in Velikaya Britain now ends in abortion , if discarded a question of morality. Hmm, this is It's none of my business. But the very thought: what is this does it really mean? What people feel that can't start life, they cannot to start a family, not can, you know, to settle, not feel capable on this because of that, you know, the climate, which we have now.
Yes, favorable conditions never come. Yes, favorable conditions —I want people to felt that they can, you know, that life will be better for their children, the best for themselves. Wouldn't it be great, if it seemed that favorable conditions already here, even when it's not Yes? This is the world in which which one do you want to people lived, right? Abundance thinking on counter to thinking deficit. Belief in that what to expect favorable conditions in in the future, for the definition is scarcity thinking. Now it's not enough, but in the future maybe be better if I I can build the world is like this specific way.
It really seems that we live in a very unique time. I have I mean, I suppose, that everyone is always like this think, but whether Did they think like that in the 90s? In the 90s nothing was happening. It happened, I have to I mean, you yourself lived in That time, tell me. Yes, relatively quietly. Indeed, from time to time The end of the "Pax Americana" and, in fact, since when has this The stage of history has begun. somewhere in 89-91. Berlin Wall falls, Soviet The Union is gone, and suddenly you move from bipolar world to unipolar, and no one didn't notice this during, you know, 30 years.
But when American Navy began to shrink, Somali pirates became, so to speak, "canary in the "coal mine." I would never do that. happened when the US Navy were at their peak power, with the enemy in the form of Russia, which you know, that would be indifferent, without any problems. Safe navigation. Yes, they would they were taught a lesson, and then suddenly it all started collapse. Suddenly everyone appeared these are different things. We we live in multipolar world now, and it's very confused. This, you know, on the geopolitical equal, this is very strange time.
And you see how this revolution continues. And if we consider revolution as a replacement elites, then, for example, mainstream media are now being replaced. Ahem , academic circles, there crisis reproducibility, and they lost a lot trust. Um, politics now—big parties in Great Britain, maybe never won't win anymore election. Those who were in us the last hundred years . This is really yours. kind of split of ours systems. Apparently, this takes us back to Robert Frost and thoughts about what civilization is A clearing in the forest.
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As Do you think there will be people in their 50s, in their 30s years to look at 2026 year and say: "Those were "good old days"? And nostalgia, which many people feel in the 90s. I...I don't know. I think there is something in...how it sounds and great quote? Strong people create good times, good times create weak people, weak people create hard times, Hard times create strong people, and so further. I think we are now we live in a very turbulent times. For example, technology is hard times.
Yes. Yes. I think that this These are difficult times. I think people now very difficult. AND... I think it feels lack of leadership, you see how they manage countries. Yes, it's obvious that these are difficult times. Do you know the concept of " "kayfabe", right? The same from WWE, where everything rests on metagame, on external effect, it... everything is unreal and surreal. AND definitely, if to look back, well, was that analysis debates between Obama and, I don't remember, against whom he spoke, somewhere in 2012 or 2008.
AND before they start just wanted to say: I just wanted to tell my opponent, I really like him I respect and appreciate this thing, and... and then you are transported to time before this a real WWE event, where personal sounds are heard insults, swearing and disputes, and you you think: I...I don't know if there is state behavior superfluous figure arrogance. This is some kind of such a mannered gloss and ceremonies that are not needed, was it something, if not lost, then converted to caricature, on an exhibition of yourself?
Such a nonsense role-playing game. All laugh at who they should be, and that's it this has been brought to extremes. Now this really felt very extreme. I I mean, really. it feels, but I I don't think so. impossible to fix. I think we were in worse situations in past. You know, Apparently there were people in 1943 year, who said: "This is... we are in the middle of the world war. Is this bad? wrong? " This is bad. What will it happen? How do we do it?
Can we manage? I think about it a lot. I'm thinking about how kinetically and literally the situation was much worse almost every period of human history as far as until now. But I I wonder if there were things are so bad metaphysically and symbolically. Interesting , are we experiencing now the most confusing times, even if it's not the most dangerous in kinetically period. Yes. I don't know. I have on mind you, I think that solutions exist, and I I think this is a question...I I believe that the state A doer is truly what what do we need IN times like these are necessary great leadership.
Someone is needed who thinks about the future on 20 years ahead, not about the election cycle. What now? takes place in Great Britain? I I haven't been home for a long time. Great Britain not in the best of times right now situation, and I think Andy Burnham will take leadership on oneself, I wish him success, but I don't know what will change. I think this is requires a certain radical realism. You know, if you were going to to rectify the situation in Great Britain, which Would you do it?
I think the basics are that the nation must become more competitive . And what makes a nation? competitive ? Well, 2% tax on income in one way or another side or changes in stamp duty laws gathering. This is all nothing. It just a rearrangement sun loungers on the "Titanic." Them need someone who will come and actually will take on a real problem. THERE ARE four things that affect competitiveness countries. I think this is currency, exchange rate. This is the cost of energy. This is the number, well, how you call it, bureaucratic red tape.
Uh, and, well, Wait, I'll drink. Culture. Oh, no. Uh, sorry, I'll repeat that. again. So, you have currency. Do you have energy cost, bureaucracy and taxes. And you can change all these four factors to make the country more competitive . And in fact Britain needs be competitive on the world stage. We, you know when we left Europe, on for better or worse, people voted for this. But we do this. we didn't do it, and we never really competed. So, if I were in charge, if...if I were the main thing is at least a day, I would devalue currency.
I would devalued the pound. I think a pound overrated, and you Do you know why pint? costs 7.50 in London? Well, because he overrated as currency. The idea that what should be lowered the value of a pound—people are talking about redistribution wealth to the north; we are holding it high through the City in London. And, honestly saying, I don't really is concerned that because of your exchange rate vacation in France will cost more within two weeks per year. More than me other 50 are concerned weeks a year when you working.
We must to be net- exporter of goods. So our products have to be cheaper. And so that to do this, we should reduce the value of the currency that to do relatively light. People say that Great Britain- seventh economy in world, but that's not the case. This is the seventh largest city in the world, surrounded by very poor country. Yes. And you want to it was redistributed. You you want, you know, factories were built as far away as possible from London. Yes. It doesn't seem like it.
was that wealth City of London reached Newcastle or Middlesbrough from Stockton. No. And we have the most expensive energy in the world. I think she once in a while four higher than yours . This is madness. We, you know, and this systematically, well, I I mean, it's all because of the "New "green course"? It ago? Well, partly, but I I mean, I'm completely I support the "New "green course". Simply give me enough time. Give me 25 years, and I will provide zero level emissions. Not 2030.
But I want to achieve the same technological level like France in the 70s years, if you can Imagine that. Therefore, France in the 1970s built 56 nuclear power plants power plants. They have the cheapest energy in Europe. They don't care what he says. Russia or what? takes place on The Middle East, because they decided their energy issues. Do this. Do it. And this is very long-term prospect. Whoever said that he could fix the energy in two months—he lives in a dream world. It the problem is very long term.
AND then regulation, bureaucracy, all these regulations. Simply cancel all this. Cancel all this. We now how, you know, how during the breakup Soviet Union. How many regulations needed to do at least something in Britain now. They could clean up this pile bureaucracy and to free people to they were more enterprising. To everyone I like the idea. to live in a country with glorious history. She is so respected. How long it is exists. It turns out man. He has mace, he takes off hat, and around trees everywhere.
All, his mother, with mahogany. You you say, "Yeah, that's great" ". But you too accumulate a pile [ __ ] on this road, a lot of bureaucracy and obstacles through which you have to jump, like, for example, a question about taxes. This is very A topic close to my heart. But regarding taxes: if you look at Estonia after Soviet era, they said: "We need something" to do", they didn't have a lot of time on reflections, and in them only one tax form. In Estonia, one tax return .
There is a law in Estonia that which the government cannot to ask you one and the same information twice. So if you gave their address doctor, they assume that the tax office knows too your address, like everyone else others, because everything is united into the system, truth? So, the tax form —this is one page, in them the only rate tax, and they collect a lot taxes. I am not interested in equality. I am interested abundance. What could to force everyone to live in Britain? We just we have to compete with other countries to people were coming to us, opened a business and wanted to live here.
We have the same amount universities in the top 10 , how many in America, but we release in five times less entrepreneurs. I think we are entrepreneurs we produce the same amount, but they end up elsewhere. They are not in Great Britain. Brain drain. Yes, they are all somewhere in somewhere else. But I I think it's possible. change. Listen, this is what I would do with Great Britain. I would lower taxes and energy prices. 20 year old needed energy plan and regulation in Great Britain. Reduce the pile all, to introduce single tax bet, look, will this work, and if so no—change.
I think this is would be positive step by step. And about America, I think I could would fix it with two steps. Good. OK. I would introduced open primaries. For Congress, Senate, presidents—everything has to be open. Then politicians would have to to focus on center. They would appealed not only to of their electorate. They would appeal to center. 90% of people Agree on 90% of the questions. Mhm. And I would also limit terms of stay in positions in the Senate and Congress, because I don't I accuse Trump of his influence.
I the blame system deterrence and the counterbalance is that It is not working. They do not perform your work. American The Constitution is incredible mechanism . But with her you have to work. She is not works by itself. It active process. Bernie Sanders was in me on the show, he's in government longer than me I live in the world. Yes. Therefore. This is, well... Quite seriously. Yes. That's all. Me it seems the idea of 20 years sounds quite reasonably. Are there any restrictions? terms in the Great Britain?
Hmm, no. Of course. But there are no restrictions. was, wasn't before limit for presidents. It seems that this introduced by Roosevelt, right? Right. Roosevelt, it seems, elected three times. He tried to go to third term. Yes. Yes. In short, yes we unleashed on the world problems. Everything was fixed. Yes. It very...Have you heard the phrase David Ogilvy: "No" can save souls in "empty church"? I heard it a few times. weeks ago and since then she doesn't go out out of my head. This is an idea that if you are in believe something, you have moral obligation spread it message, and many people protect themselves from meetings with reality, justifying: "this too elegant and difficult." That's why it could not become quite popular .
This is how it is underground a band whose music— Well, you know, she's very virtuoso. This would be It is very difficult for you. for...the proletariat. They wouldn't be able to understand how much elegant things we we do. But yes, no can save souls in empty church. As on me, it puts everyone's duty who believes in something, find a way to convey this message and analyze everything that you are concerned about: climate, youth, suicides, birth rate, damn art, taxes or anything other. So this is yours.
duty—to find way to do it. I...I don't know. Yes, I am. I completely agree. Yes, I am. I think that the idea to talk about those" forbidden topics "and to express one's opinion— this is really good. It, probably the hardest, but simultaneously the most beautiful part of my show now where am I talking about suicide and I say people the terrible truth: suicide is not works. People do suicide, because want to get rid of pain, but it impossible to get rid of. Everything you can to hope—this to translate this pain on people who you loved.
And this is an important point. It's like...you know, in there is always an audience at least a few people, who suffer and understand: "Oh, really "." Oh, this... this is my burden, which I have to carry." This is a difficult thing, but...it is quite interesting— to talk about such things. It is interesting to have such a platform and to feel that, okay, I I can say that. This is terrible. awareness. Yes. Yes. This...this is very importantly. But if at least one person will listen to this and say:" Oh, exactly "." Okay "." Yes "." This means that I I can't "." "Great." There is the data you provided me George from Tinmen: I think that 90% of men who shortened their lives, applied for assistance from specialists from the mental health before that.
So, the idea that we just need, so that people open up and talked to professionals. It, doesn't seem to be working just as we expected. Yes. This, this is real. yes, right? Feel everything. Beauty and horror. No feelings is not final. Yes. Well, unfortunately, it is it can become like this, if people decide make this decision. Yes. I, uh...there's something. similar to Blake Burgh. One of the best advice that I ever received. If you Do you want something calmer? life, you need to solve small problems problems while they still small.
Cost problem solving rarely becomes smaller than sometimes. Delay transforms uncomfortable things are inevitable. IN basically, as with clothes: if he doesn't fits, finally- the ends of his wearing will hurt. Yes, I think so. really, this is it again still the same compound interest. Yes. In positive things, you know, if you save money— it works if you you gain skills— it works, but also, if you have problems and you don't solve them, over time they will worsen. So, the solution to this and driving heavy conversations—I think quality of life can to track down such indicator: how many awkward conversations you ready to lead, or in how you feel comfortable, right?
WITH how many people around you you can to speak without filters? And there is another one side of this: with whom you can sit in silence and not feeling her needs fill in? It the best way determine who your a true friend. Yes. Write down horrible damn podcast. Yes. Yes. But that would be great for emotional regulation of two guests who were there. Just don't post it. these records. Publish the ones where you talk without any filters. Yes. But yeah, this is, uh... I don't know.
I really am I feel that we are on on the threshold of something, when, okay, we have these new ones technologies, they atomize people and distract them, and then everyone starts to be a little aware the fact that, perhaps, they are dangerous, or, maybe they force us to live like this that it is maladaptive and , although instantly brings pleasure, after all becomes destructive. AND now we are almost there came to that the moment when people think: me, probably need to use some very serious measures, to try get rid of this of your life.
Me must register in running club. Me I need to start walking. for performances. Me you have to force yourself go to a coffee shop. I I don't want anymore. work from home. Well, these are voluntary gatherings at home. I I'm going to come back. to the office. I am going to spend time among people. I, you know, I'll try to adjust. rifle scope, to take into account the wind, who blows on me, so that start hitting the target , which I want to to transform your life.
But yes, people's ability adapt to new technologies developing much faster than our habits. It means that during for a long time, the last one decades or one and a half, people only felt the consequences this. And now, I think, people start understand: "Okay, I..." I mean that It is also important to know, who we are. This is the famous quote about paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions and divine technology. Well, let's go. let's take a risk and Let's see what happens. will work out. This looks madness, and I think further there will only be worse, now with the advent of AI, this new technology that appeared—as she will change the world?
So this is shaky ground. I I just think that people...we need connection, and in this is my business model: gather people at the performances so that they sat in the same room and laughed. They had to wear trousers. This is quite a event. Yes. But I really think that people lack this —to go out somewhere and to be together Them not necessarily even to know other people, simple enough to be there. It's like yours. kind of church. They seem to be gathering. together and find something in common.
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AND that's why, yes, small changes eventually accumulate. It also the reason why it seems like this unfair. People can look at the one who is at the top of its industry, and ask: why all achievements they get this one to a person? The answer is in because they are complex interest rates work on their benefit, and, on sorry, the same takes place in in the opposite direction, when people find themselves in a spiral of failure. I I worry about art, about, let's say so, oligarchy in art.
Now in art reigns supreme oligarchy, especially in cinema where everything based on existing intellectual property, sequels or prequels. They dominate, truly dominate; there are only five big ones films per year, which take about 90% box office collections, and in music is an oligarchy with five huge stars that dominate the world. Yes. You know, it used to be 100 or 200 artists who everyone is not bad were sold. WITH books the same. You know, books are that exactly. I hope so. comedy enough wide so that people could choose what they like it, and so that she was not too monopolized big names, because I want her to enjoyed many different people.
Probably my main the mover in what I am I want to interest you. more people to do comedy, and not just walking on to watch her. I, actually, I wrote this a book about jokes about with my friends Abby Grant and Amanda Baker, and she, by essentially, about how to become comedian. In essence, as write jokes. Can everyone become funny? I think so. Yes, I am. I think so. I I think everyone has some story that It's worth telling. AND if you think about it, what is stand-up, truth?
It organizing your thoughts, writing them down and finding your own authentic voice. It seems to me so. extremely valuable a worthwhile activity to teach in schools. Yes, this is probably more useful, than studying music. Music is also very valuable. , but eighth grade the piano is not you will need it for time for a friendship speech on weddings, presentations at work or in conversation with a partner. And the skill to write down your thoughts and find outlook on life is, actually, what it does comedy. She is very knows us well awaken.
Think about what it is Just kidding, right? This is something on like Kahneman. It about "Fast thinking" "and slow"? Kahneman. Okay. Therefore, thinking first and second order. The setup for the joke is thinking first order. You What do you think he will say? man, and then The punchline seems to be forcing you: oh, I really do I had to mention this. think. AT, of course. So, this is idea about brain function . The brain is created so as not to think. Your brain is made in order to...yes.
It Your brain is a big language model. Yes. This is recognition patterns. That's right, that's it. large language model. You are right. Therefore, comedy makes you to say, "Oh, oh, okay." I think I have look at this from new. People really has to think about it. It as if forcing you awake. I think that's quite childish , because children really think, and adults, how usually, after of a certain age...You just working on recognition patterns. You are all done. They saw it. Ago comedians have ability to- real to make sense of things.
It very attractive way of being. I think what to teach this—this Okay, I would like to more people joined in on this. I think they would be more interesting to watch comedy if they knew a little about her more. And yet, the idea in because there is such a thing many wonderful...This a fairly new genre, comedy. It exists. not as long as music. You know what...Um, wait. I'll have a little drink. I I will tell you. history. Heard about Gregorian chants ? Yes. Good. You know, why did you hear about Gregorian chants ?
I'll tell you now, no worry. Good. Therefore, Pope Gregory, well, no I know, a thousand years. therefore, walks by the Vatican, goes into local churches, and they sing everywhere songs differently, and he says, "Well, this is some kind of nonsense "." I want, so that everyone sings everywhere the same "." Ahem, record music ". A those, bishops or who they're there, they say: "But The thing is, it's not can be written music, because it's like ethereal "." She seems to be from another, um, dimension, it is about the soul, about mood, and what are they "Still, to hell, they said." And he replied:" Listen here: I am the Pope, write down ".
And they recorded music, and now we know that this is Gregorian chorales. It is interesting that 400 years after that's why Bach appeared, Mozart, Beethoven, who could not exist without musical notation. Same with recording. comedies. In my field too much magic thinking. Too much this: "oh, that one" the boy is born sense of humor, "or" he just goes out and does his ", or" he just improvising "." He's just funny." No, that's a joke. It just kidding. Knowledge how they work jokes, does not reduce pleasure from them.
I think that...and what less magical thinking, especially people can say: "Yes, can I?" learn to be funny? ""Yes, Kushka"" "Kushka". Do you have the story that needs to be told tell me, and you have your voice. Majority people live in a quiet despair and go to grave with an unsung song . I don't want this. happened. I'm joking. Exactly. So, you're like you claim that on unlike music, acting skills or literature, in comedy never been a shared dictionary, and it can be created. You created it.
How are you? Do you think? Well, I guess it's about so that everything systematize. I I mean, you you stand on shoulders giants. You seem to be didn't invent anything. You just noticed that What happened? Just like a musical score does not create a record music. He describes music that already exists. Yes. And then can you it is deconstructed and see if it works it? So, I work. over...I wrote a book, which comes out in October , or rather, we wrote a book. It Abby, Amanda and me.
Um, and we are working on by creating your own type of course, interactive course , where you can...exist such wonderful methods learning, especially with using AI as teaching method. It really, really I wonder what can be done. to achieve with the help of this? That is, can it to grow it corn? Can I, can I create comedian with the help of this? If I can, then perfectly. You say you have first scientific theory of what actually makes jokes work. Well, I don't know if it's scientific theory.
You know, we have...this everything is there. This is a bit highly specialized topic, but the thing is that there are different ways jokes work, and, generally speaking, this something like using recognition images and reversal him to wake him up mind, sudden discovery previously hidden fact. That's right, that's right simplified, but this The trick is simply wonderful. Have you ever felt guilty for what was revealed secret? What do you think? other comedians will to be annoyed with you for what you demystify this? No , it's like...it's like everywhere there was a guild, right?
Everyone has was...secret company. It's like the magic circle of comedy. I think most comedians I know, actually don't know, how they write jokes. They seem to find them on stage, or to them something comes to mind, and they write it down, remember, but they don't have how... they are virtuoso musicians, but not know the music diplomas. Yes. They wouldn't be able to teach this because they never thought about it's like this. Perfectly. Well, they doing their job, and they are all well it turns out. Perfectly.
But I think the idea is to be more systematic in this—it really is positive idea. And I I would like to have opportunity...I would like to make such a gift to people to to be able to throw them rope and say:" Come on, we can all do it. "to do it." Write harder than performing? I think that writing is ...yes, writing is what it is work. And writing is self-task. You you have to sit down, and no one will never tell you. In the career of a comedian there is no such moment, when the manager sits down and says: "Okay, you must write ".
People just accept it as it should be. Well, and you know, that's what it is preparation. That's why you can say, Are you successful? you will fail. You should this realize. How do you feel about that comedians have authors or buy jokes from other comedians ? Well, I think if you Are you writing for a TV show or something like that, this absolute norm. For, for example, in "Taskmaster", "Last One Laughing" or whatever what other shows where I I participate, we have team of authors, and they just brilliant.
Absolutely brilliant. And some people are great at it write. Some people they write beautifully, but not really want speak. So this is seems quite acceptable. Yes, there is probably a comedian, which, in your opinion, embodies everything that is why the book teaches, as well as someone, who, on your behalf opinion, wonderful, despite that which rejects many rules. Well, I I think you understand, What kind of people are you with? you are dealing with comedians. I have on meaning that knowledge rules—this is the first step, and then them violation is...
Who, in your opinion, What upsets them the most? Uh, about comedy, I I'm trying to remember. someone funny, maybe it's someone on like Bob Mortimer. Although, I think Vic and Bob may be a little incomprehensible to your American audience, but this really surrealistic comedians, somewhat absurd . I can't be sure. to say why this is funny, but this actually very ridiculously. And it caught me off guard. suddenly, completely unexpectedly. Are these less cliché? things? Is it a little more like jazz improvisation virtuoso? This is less more formulaic than...
I think so. Although, Age and Bob also likes jokes. . So, this is...Yes. And no. It what you want to it was. They are very unique. Me too I think they are fall under that if everything is done That's right, you are learning. write jokes, and then You invest yourself in them. So in comedy you don't want to be the best. Do you want to be one in one's own kind. There is no comedy the concept of "best". There is no such thing as: "Oh, he "the best comedian." Top -10 lists are pointless, because it all depends on of what makes to laugh at you.
What Do you like it? AND the more someone remains the same on the stage, especially people to him stretches. So the thought about what it is not competition...It's like...no it matters how much people reach success. It's simple. makes the pie bigger. Let's say you have six months to try to teach absolutely not funny to be a person as funny as possible. Where would you start? teaching? I think first after all, it is necessary to recognize, you know, their story, what exactly do they want to say?
What can they do? to say something like that no one could another? What is theirs? history? What is theirs? outlook on life? Maybe they want to tell a personal story history. Perhaps, they want to talk about politics. Perhaps, they are interested sports. What would they be about? didn't want to talk, you appreciate it, and then—well, how are we? Is it to go deeper? As to make it so It was interesting and enjoyable. listen? Mm. That's good, because I think that everyone...I think, in everyone has feelings humor.
It's like...you say " "unfunny person", but everyone has their own humor. How much is it? gloomy, sarcastic Is it ironic? another, and that which Do you like it, maybe? differ. It's like with flavors: your taste in comedy similar to your tastes in food or sexy. Someone likes spicy food, someone—normal. It perfectly. What about timing? IN why the secret comedic timing ? It seems there is a certain regularity in rhythm. This is approximate. development speed: if we talk about 92 beats per minute, in at this pace, this works well not only for comedy, but also for speeches or political speeches.
People enter this rhythm, and you see how audience for this reacts. So if you are do it, it seems almost like magic. Although I I don't think so. I think it's some kind of language barrier. cadence, which allows the audience to tune in to what are you saying, and concentrate. Some are in a hurry, and that sounds a bit indistinctly, as if they are confused. And this doesn't mean to speak quickly or slowly. It's about where you are. Do you emphasize where? put emphasis. So I think that rhythm extremely important .
"I have a dream" is 92 ? Yes. And it seems that in Winston Churchill also. Obama—he's 92. And he, he speaks quite slowly, but he, he holds this rhythm, and it's wonderful orator. What do you think, which one? joke template preserved the longest? Which is the most classic? The most classic, apparently there is a trick " suspension", you know, like in comics: Are you looking at something? one and then the camera is leaving, and It turns out that he is in on the bus. You know, this thing, it seems, works universally at all times, and still a game words.
I think that, you know, jokes—"ha-ha" " and "yeah"—very similar. They are often some kind of insights into something, when people do something realize. Me it seems, The oldest joke is, Well, there is such a book " "A lover of laughter." It old Roman book jokes, and there is a joke in it, which still works as on me: man comes to the hairdresser to get a haircut, and He asks: "How are you?" "cut your hair?" AND The man replies: " Silently". He almost 4000 years. It a real joke.
I wouldn't started with him performance, but yes. What changed after that how did you start more to work with audience and post it online ? Because now we see This is a lot. I think that did it all. a little bigger. IN in terms of audience, You know, it's growing. I think now a larger one appeared connection with people. Previously, about 5 years ago, people came up and said, "I saw the show, "Thank you for the photo," and now they want about something to talk about.
This is very nice. This deepens the connection. . Yes, I think so. I I'm trying somehow... good. I had my own. stand-up image on a scene with jokes, and then this one appeared podcast format, and they merge. And I am very happy with this. enthusiastic. I like it. I really like it. I like it the idea that it will be...not panic. The show will have 90 minutes of accuracy jokes, but also half hours like this conversations about life and all sorts of different things. Perfectly. To what extent is this influenced you?
For, Of course, you have already been. quite famous thanks to your jokes. And yet, although you read a lot, finished university and everything it seems to me that that a certain thing happened fracture; and, fortunately, we are George was able to to be a part of this, to make friends and spend time together. How much world of podcasts about wisdom influenced it? I think it worked. huge impact. It also the question of What are you interested in? speak, you understand? This shouldn't be. monotonous, as when you see the band on a stage where every song —it's just energetic dance track, but sometimes I want to slow down a little.
Need to add a couple ballad So nice to have variety in the program when you you say, "Okay, I know , you can go out and 20 minutes to tell just kidding," is perfectly. But then I want some to chat with people and see, Where will the evening take us? . And create a feeling, what is happening here and now, in this room, and more never will happen again. This instantaneity indeed attractive. The idea in because it is happening right now now and then the moment passes.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I thought a lot about it. how much we are they relied on the boys in attempts to convey a number of basic principles. And I came across a quote Nabila Qureshi: « The damn fact of it the world in that the most important things in life the hardest lessons to convey to others, because they always sound like a cliché." Yes. And I understand why. constant repetition the same ones, or would seem similar to those banal truths, like "imitate" success, so far you will reach it", but in which ones should be believed in advance.
Is this trivial? I am so I don't think so. I think this is the same feeling, when you say: But this is also the one the case when you read comments, and someone He writes arrogantly: " "Fool." Oh, oh, systems are better than goals. Well, it doesn't matter. Yes. Good. And what? Did you do it? Well, here it definitely appears question: if you so smart, why you still haven't done anything reached? For example, if you are bored to hear about the cold, darkness and silence for sleep.
Yes. OK. Why is your dream still horrible? Yes. This, this too normally. It okay—to pass because of this. I think early twenties— the best time for in order to be cynical and criticize everything around. Perfectly. Do you think it's coming? the moment when you say: "Yes, what can I do?" make?" What exactly? For there are two different ways to study. Some lessons you have to go through it yourself. I wrote a book about jokes, because I felt that cut his way through machete through the jungle, to become a comedian.
I think this is was not repeated path. You have. somehow get there, right? Go there and ask. : "How do you write this?" AND: “How to organize a show? » And: «How to do this "What's the matter?" And, okay, performances of two shows each evening—I created it for myself I feel this career, What is mine now? duty to help and to say: "Well, what?" As? Look, just do it. this, do this. It it will help, that's for sure will push you forward, it will not be a waste of time.
If you want to do that exactly like me—that's how write jokes, great, Now go and do your thing. But I think the idea is not to repeat things because "people are "already heard"...Well, maybe, but I think, how is it? sounds great quote about... In the works of geniuses we we see our own discarded thoughts. Yes. So the idea is that we we constantly hear that We already know. Unlikely I will say something like this, after which people They will say, "Oh, wow." "It something completely new." But they can say: "Oh, I somehow "I forgot it." I think if this is something completely new, people are most likely will simply reject it.
Because there is no point supports. Must be incredibly brave and have a huge trust in someone you listen to change the whole worldview through what was said before I didn't even hear. But I I don't know how critical it is. the masses need to hear the idea that she should convinced. But I know, what is usually this one is not enough once. Having this on I mean, I really I like to try. to convey apt ideas, which are compressed so that they could have been to remember Because I have not a very good memory.
Therefore for me synthesize or to compress a big idea in an apt aphorism or mantra—it's like something that remains, right? Let's say you are reading a 500-page book. You remember just one small one a quote from it. Well, this is and there is what remains . This is the same thing that you just can't think away. She sat there. forever. She just there, and you think, "Well, this is a kind of brilliant. This is great. This is the same treasure, which you were looking for." And then you go with it , and if it's even a little changes the way you interact with the world, then this fantasy.
Or your opinion has changed about the trajectory and position, considering that your trajectory continues to grow, I I think, to the level, apparently, the largest performances in the world, or something that you did last year, was it the biggest world tour for number of units sold comedy tickets? Something like this. I'm having a hard time finding it. someone who would like it interesting. But yes, I am I think the trajectory very good She, you know, nice is developing. And I I think it's more important. for this: when people happy?
When they become something better. Mhm. I believe that competence is a very important thing for people to become somehow a master. It doesn't matter what exactly. And feel that they are also getting better. Remember the children, children are learning many things. They learn, for example, how to ride bicycle, right? You are not were able, then tried, and in the end were able. This is very fun—learning to do different things, truth? And then some people are getting better at this, they can do tricks, playing or something whatever.
In comedy there is infinite number tricks. So you just continue to become a little better all over time. I really like it. I like it. Um, this is " "Kaizen"? Me it seems so is this called Japanese concept. For example, British cycling does it very good Receiving very small improvements, gradual improvements over time brings a huge pleasure. Me it seems that the idea constant movement very fascinating, and I I'm trying to get out. out of the comfort zone every 18 months— organize larger tours, to perform at new sites or to do everything differently, to feel light discomfort.
Perhaps, try to add to speech pauses and silence, that is something to me new. You know what else? interesting in this in the development process and accumulation of experience, when do you become bolder in attempts something new, having bigger than the shoulders baggage of skills? Me it seems that people's sensitivity to cynicism holds them back place, and because they don't do nothing, except that the minimum they have now, their fear before cynicism does not disappear anywhere. You must be able to to step over this, because always