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Why I Gave My AI Access to Everything | Peter Diamandis

Find your purpose—not just your passion. Passion is what you love doing; purpose is what you love doing that helps other people. In the next decade, AI will democratize opportunity. With access to AI tools, anyone can build solutions to problems affecting 100,000+ people. Your AI can code, design, a

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Find your purpose—not just your passion. Passion is what you love doing; purpose is what you love doing that helps other people. In the next decade, AI will democratize opportunity. With access to AI tools, anyone can build solutions to problems affecting 100,000+ people. Your AI can code, design, and help market your ideas. The future belongs to creators who take agency over their lives, not consumers who wait for jobs. Start now: identify a problem you care about, describe your solution in plain English, and use AI agents to build it.

Episode Overview

Peter Diamandis discusses how AI, humanoid robots, and longevity technologies will transform the next decade. He predicts ambient AI that anticipates our needs, universal high income driven by plummeting costs rather than cash handouts, and accessible healthcare and education powered by AI. While optimistic about abundance, he warns of turbulence during the transition, particularly for young people struggling with traditional employment models.

Main Insights

Purpose vs. Passion: The Critical Distinction

Passion is something you love doing, but purpose is something you love doing that helps other people. Finding your purpose gives you rocket fuel—a guiding star that drives you daily. Your purpose doesn't have to be fixed for life; it can evolve and layer over time as you grow and your interests shift.

The Creator vs. Consumer Split

Humanity faces a fork: become a consumer who lets AI do everything (the Wall-E future) or a creator who uses AI to solve problems and build solutions (the Star Trek future). Those who choose the creator path will use AI as a superpower to realize their biggest dreams without traditional barriers of capital, coding skills, or connections.

Universal High Income, Not Universal Basic Income

Elon Musk predicts we're heading toward 'universal high income' where AI and robots create so much supply that you couldn't want enough that technology can't provide. This isn't everyone becoming billionaires—it's the cost of everything (healthcare, transportation, education) plummeting to near-zero, giving everyone access to world-class resources.

Ambient AI Will Make Life 'Automagical'

Within 3-5 years, AI will shift from something you use on your phone to something that's always on around you. Your AI will know your sleep score, schedule, emotional state, and nutritional needs—adjusting your environment, summoning transportation, and directing robots in your home to optimize your health and happiness without you asking.

Healthcare and Education Will Be Free and Superior

AI diagnosticians already outperform human physicians. Soon, humanoid robot surgeons with experience from 10 million procedures (versus 10,000 for top human surgeons) will provide the world's best surgery for the cost of electricity—whether you're in Botswana or Boston. AI tutors will know your child's learning style and create perfectly personalized education.

Notable Quotes

"A passion is something you love doing. A purpose is something you love doing that helps other people."

— Peter Diamandis

"The world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business opportunities. Want to become a billionaire? Help a billion people."

— Peter Diamandis

"Technology is the means by which humanity takes a vacation from survival."

— Sadhguru (quoted by Peter Diamandis)

"We're going to head towards universal high income where AI and technology could not provide that for you and so what universal high income is not that everybody's becoming you know a multi-billionaire it's that the cost of things are going to begin to plummet."

— Peter Diamandis

"The best health care in the world will be free. In other words, we this is the case today that AIs are a much better diagnostician than a human physician."

— Peter Diamandis

Action Items

  • 1
    Define Your Purpose Today

    Sit down and answer: What would I spend my day doing if I could do anything? What excites me most? How can I connect that with helping other people? Write down your purpose—it can evolve, but start somewhere. Use AI to brainstorm how your skills and interests could solve problems for 100,000+ people.

  • 2
    Enter the Build with Gemini X-Prize

    Go to geminixxprize.com and identify a problem affecting 100,000+ people. Describe your solution in plain English—what the website/app should look like, what problem you're solving. Use AI agents to code it, then market it. Compete for up to $500,000 in prizes by generating the most revenue in three months.

  • 3
    Choose the Creator Path Over the Consumer Path

    Audit your daily habits: Are you primarily consuming (watching AI-generated content, having robots serve you) or creating (building solutions, solving problems, helping others)? Shift your time and energy toward creation. Use AI as a brainstorming partner, educator, and coding assistant—not just an entertainer.

  • 4
    Leverage AI as Your Personal Educator

    Start using large language models (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini) not just for tasks but for learning. Maintain a curiosity mindset: ask AI to teach you new skills aligned with your purpose. Treat it like the greatest tutor in the world who knows your learning style and can explain anything.

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uh probably in the next 10 years, you're uh probably in the next 10 years, you're going to have what I call uh ambient AI. going to have what I call uh ambient AI. going to have what I call uh ambient AI. AI is always on [music] around you, AI is always on [music] around you, AI is always on [music] around you, making your life automagical. You're making your life automagical. You're making your life automagical. You're going to be chauffeurred around by an going to be chauffeurred around by an going to be chauffeurred around by an autonomous vehicle. That's four or five autonomous vehicle. That's four or five autonomous vehicle. That's four or five times cheaper [music] than owning a car. times cheaper [music] than owning a car. times cheaper [music] than owning a car. You're heading towards the front door. You're heading towards the front door. You're heading towards the front door. Your AI knows your schedule. You [music] Your AI knows your schedule. You [music] Your AI knows your schedule. You [music] open the front door of your home, and open the front door of your home, and open the front door of your home, and because your AI knows your sleep score because your AI knows your sleep score because your AI knows your sleep score from last night, it knows you didn't get from last night, it knows you didn't get from last night, it knows you didn't get enough sleep. So, it pulls up [music] a enough sleep. So, it pulls up [music] a enough sleep. So, it pulls up [music] a car with a lie down bed in it and the car with a lie down bed in it and the car with a lie down bed in it and the world becomes, you know, automatic and world becomes, you know, automatic and world becomes, you know, automatic and magical for [music] you. And you're magical for [music] you. And you're magical for [music] you. And you're going to give access to your AI to going to give access to your AI to going to give access to your AI to listen to [music] your conversations, listen to [music] your conversations, listen to [music] your conversations, look at the cameras in your home because look at the cameras in your home because look at the cameras in your home because when you do that, it's able to [music] when you do that, it's able to [music] when you do that, it's able to [music] support you in so many different ways. support you in so many different ways. support you in so many different ways. Do we need to change how we view privacy Do we need to change how we view privacy Do we need to change how we view privacy going forward in the world? going forward in the world? going forward in the world? >> The question is, do you actually believe >> The question is, do you actually believe >> The question is, do you actually believe we have privacy? Uh and I would say to we have privacy? Uh and I would say to we have privacy? Uh and I would say to you that we actually don't everything we you that we actually don't everything we you that we actually don't everything we do uh is [music] out in the ecosystem. do uh is [music] out in the ecosystem. do uh is [music] out in the ecosystem. You know, u I can shake your hand, You know, u I can shake your hand, You know, u I can shake your hand, scrape a couple of skin [music] cells scrape a couple of skin [music] cells scrape a couple of skin [music] cells off of you, sequence you and know off of you, sequence you and know off of you, sequence you and know everything about your health, right? An everything about your health, right? An everything about your health, right? An AI can read your lips [music] from 100 AI can read your lips [music] from 100 AI can read your lips [music] from 100 meters away. We are constantly dribbling meters away. We are constantly dribbling meters away. We are constantly dribbling data all the time. Privacy is, I think, data all the time. Privacy is, I think, data all the time. Privacy is, I think, an old concept. the value to our lives. an old concept. the value to our lives. an old concept. the value to our lives. It's like having the most extraordinary It's like having the most extraordinary It's like having the most extraordinary executive assistant always knowing what executive assistant always knowing what executive assistant always knowing what you want. you want. you want. >> I just think of things like that are >> I just think of things like that are >> I just think of things like that are basically here now that'll be here very basically here now that'll be here very basically here now that'll be here very soon [music] but is sensing that uh my soon [music] but is sensing that uh my soon [music] but is sensing that uh my blood pressure's increased. The amount blood pressure's increased. The amount blood pressure's increased. The amount of people that won't have strokes that of people that won't have strokes that of people that won't have strokes that [music] used to have strokes that won't [music] used to have strokes that won't [music] used to have strokes that won't have a heart attack going to have a have a heart attack going to have a have a heart attack going to have a heart attack. You guys, it's just going heart attack. You guys, it's just going heart attack. You guys, it's just going to be and I mean now almost a [music] to be and I mean now almost a [music] to be and I mean now almost a [music] different way of life of living that I different way of life of living that I different way of life of living that I have my concerns, have my concerns, have my concerns, but I'm so excited [music] about the way but I'm so excited [music] about the way but I'm so excited [music] about the way it will change the way people live and it will change the way people live and it will change the way people live and particularly for people that don't have particularly for people that don't have particularly for people that don't have means. It is democratizing and means. It is democratizing and means. It is democratizing and demonetizing [music] access to this. >> All right, welcome back to the show >> All right, welcome back to the show everybody. So, this man is back on his everybody. So, this man is back on his everybody. So, this man is back on his mom's favorite podcast today, the Ed mom's favorite podcast today, the Ed mom's favorite podcast today, the Ed Myers. True. First person I thought of Myers. True. First person I thought of Myers. True. First person I thought of this morning was not my guest, not my this morning was not my guest, not my this morning was not my guest, not my kids, not my family. I thought about his kids, not my family. I thought about his kids, not my family. I thought about his mom because [laughter] mom because [laughter] mom because [laughter] our show is his favorite podcast. our show is his favorite podcast. our show is his favorite podcast. >> You know, it's so great. My my my mom is >> You know, it's so great. My my my mom is >> You know, it's so great. My my my mom is like, I heard you on Ed Mylet's podcast. like, I heard you on Ed Mylet's podcast. like, I heard you on Ed Mylet's podcast. It's like that made me a hero. So, It's like that made me a hero. So, It's like that made me a hero. So, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> not not the fact that you've changed the >> not not the fact that you've changed the >> not not the fact that you've changed the world multiple times, the fact that world multiple times, the fact that world multiple times, the fact that you've been on our show, but I gotta you've been on our show, but I gotta you've been on our show, but I gotta tell you guys something for me. You tell you guys something for me. You tell you guys something for me. You know, there's unicorn companies and then know, there's unicorn companies and then know, there's unicorn companies and then there's very rarely unicorn humans. there's very rarely unicorn humans. there's very rarely unicorn humans. Peter's a unicorn and uh he's brilliant. Peter's a unicorn and uh he's brilliant. Peter's a unicorn and uh he's brilliant. He's uh you guys, every time he's on, He's uh you guys, every time he's on, He's uh you guys, every time he's on, the downloads go through the roof. He's the downloads go through the roof. He's the downloads go through the roof. He's an entrepreneur. I guess he's a an entrepreneur. I guess he's a an entrepreneur. I guess he's a futurist. He's a physician. He's an futurist. He's a physician. He's an futurist. He's a physician. He's an investor. He's a guy who's got his pulse investor. He's a guy who's got his pulse investor. He's a guy who's got his pulse on what's happening in the world as a on what's happening in the world as a on what's happening in the world as a change at light speed. And he is the guy change at light speed. And he is the guy change at light speed. And he is the guy that I go to to figure out where we're that I go to to figure out where we're that I go to to figure out where we're all going as a species. And um we're all going as a species. And um we're all going as a species. And um we're going to do a little bit of that today. going to do a little bit of that today. going to do a little bit of that today. He's got a book that you should go get He's got a book that you should go get He's got a book that you should go get called We Are As Gods, which we'll talk called We Are As Gods, which we'll talk called We Are As Gods, which we'll talk about today. He's obviously the founder about today. He's obviously the founder about today. He's obviously the founder of the X-P Prize as well, which we'll of the X-P Prize as well, which we'll of the X-P Prize as well, which we'll touch on that. This is going to be a touch on that. This is going to be a touch on that. This is going to be a ride for the next 55 minutes. You guys ride for the next 55 minutes. You guys ride for the next 55 minutes. You guys are going to love with Peter Diamanis. are going to love with Peter Diamanis. are going to love with Peter Diamanis. Welcome back to the show, young man. Welcome back to the show, young man. Welcome back to the show, young man. >> Uh, pleasure to be here, pal. Pleasure >> Uh, pleasure to be here, pal. Pleasure >> Uh, pleasure to be here, pal. Pleasure to be here. to be here. to be here. >> Great to have you. Okay, I'm going to >> Great to have you. Okay, I'm going to >> Great to have you. Okay, I'm going to start with a crazy question first. Okay. start with a crazy question first. Okay. start with a crazy question first. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> My son wanted me to ask you this, so >> My son wanted me to ask you this, so >> My son wanted me to ask you this, so let's start. Let's go way out there. let's start. Let's go way out there. let's start. Let's go way out there. >> Most important. >> Most important. >> Most important. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> What prediction do you have about the >> What prediction do you have about the >> What prediction do you have about the next 10 years? Here's a tough one. next 10 years? Here's a tough one. next 10 years? Here's a tough one. that most people will think is crazy but that most people will think is crazy but that most people will think is crazy but you actually think is going to happen you actually think is going to happen you actually think is going to happen over the next decade. over the next decade. over the next decade. >> Uh how >> Uh how >> Uh how >> well so there's there yeah it's a great >> well so there's there yeah it's a great >> well so there's there yeah it's a great question and thank your son for it. Uh question and thank your son for it. Uh question and thank your son for it. Uh there are so many uh first of all in the there are so many uh first of all in the there are so many uh first of all in the next 10 years we are going to learn how next 10 years we are going to learn how next 10 years we are going to learn how to fundamentally reverse aging. Um, to fundamentally reverse aging. Um, to fundamentally reverse aging. Um, we're on the verge of this so-called we're on the verge of this so-called we're on the verge of this so-called longevity escape velocity where for longevity escape velocity where for longevity escape velocity where for every year that you're alive, your life every year that you're alive, your life every year that you're alive, your life gets longer by a year. Your health span, gets longer by a year. Your health span, gets longer by a year. Your health span, your longevity. Uh, and that's going to your longevity. Uh, and that's going to your longevity. Uh, and that's going to be incredible, incredible future, one be incredible, incredible future, one be incredible, incredible future, one where um aging becomes somewhat where um aging becomes somewhat where um aging becomes somewhat optional. Uh we're learning and optional. Uh we're learning and optional. Uh we're learning and understanding that in the next 10 years understanding that in the next 10 years understanding that in the next 10 years we're likely to have a billion humanoid we're likely to have a billion humanoid we're likely to have a billion humanoid robots roaming uh the planet. Uh where robots roaming uh the planet. Uh where robots roaming uh the planet. Uh where you are on the streets, you're in you are on the streets, you're in you are on the streets, you're in offices, you look around and uh you've offices, you look around and uh you've offices, you look around and uh you've got almost as many humans uh or robots got almost as many humans uh or robots got almost as many humans uh or robots as you have humans. These robots are as you have humans. These robots are as you have humans. These robots are going to start to enter into our world going to start to enter into our world going to start to enter into our world probably in the next 10 years for your probably in the next 10 years for your probably in the next 10 years for your son. we're going to see uh as many son. we're going to see uh as many son. we're going to see uh as many autonomous vehicles or more autonomous autonomous vehicles or more autonomous autonomous vehicles or more autonomous vehicles on the road than cars. Right vehicles on the road than cars. Right vehicles on the road than cars. Right now here in Santa Monica when my kids now here in Santa Monica when my kids now here in Santa Monica when my kids and I are out and about, we'll count the and I are out and about, we'll count the and I are out and about, we'll count the number of Whimos out there and there number of Whimos out there and there number of Whimos out there and there are, you know, probably in a half hour are, you know, probably in a half hour are, you know, probably in a half hour time, we'll see 10 or 12, 15 Whimos. Uh time, we'll see 10 or 12, 15 Whimos. Uh time, we'll see 10 or 12, 15 Whimos. Uh but it's just the beginning. They're but it's just the beginning. They're but it's just the beginning. They're going to be probably 5 to 10 uh electric going to be probably 5 to 10 uh electric going to be probably 5 to 10 uh electric autonomous ride share companies on the autonomous ride share companies on the autonomous ride share companies on the streets. uh from cyber cabs to uh to uh streets. uh from cyber cabs to uh to uh streets. uh from cyber cabs to uh to uh projects that Uber has going. Uh projects that Uber has going. Uh projects that Uber has going. Uh probably in the next 10 years, you're probably in the next 10 years, you're probably in the next 10 years, you're going to have what I call uh ambient AI. going to have what I call uh ambient AI. going to have what I call uh ambient AI. AI is always on around you, making your AI is always on around you, making your AI is always on around you, making your life automagical. Before you walk into a life automagical. Before you walk into a life automagical. Before you walk into a room, your AI knows if you're depressed room, your AI knows if you're depressed room, your AI knows if you're depressed or sad and it changes the music for you. or sad and it changes the music for you. or sad and it changes the music for you. Maybe on the TV screen, your favorite Maybe on the TV screen, your favorite Maybe on the TV screen, your favorite comedian comes up. Your AI is like comedian comes up. Your AI is like comedian comes up. Your AI is like knowing that you're walking in a knowing that you're walking in a knowing that you're walking in a particular direction to get someplace particular direction to get someplace particular direction to get someplace and it says, "Hey, there's a set of and it says, "Hey, there's a set of and it says, "Hey, there's a set of stairs over there. Take the stairs stairs over there. Take the stairs stairs over there. Take the stairs instead of the elevator or your AI is instead of the elevator or your AI is instead of the elevator or your AI is telling you, listen, uh or not telling telling you, listen, uh or not telling telling you, listen, uh or not telling not telling you anything. It's it's not telling you anything. It's it's not telling you anything. It's it's telling the humanoid robot in your telling the humanoid robot in your telling the humanoid robot in your kitchen uh that Peter needs more protein kitchen uh that Peter needs more protein kitchen uh that Peter needs more protein and more water and more vitamin D. So, and more water and more vitamin D. So, and more water and more vitamin D. So, let's change the what you're serving him let's change the what you're serving him let's change the what you're serving him for lunch." So the world becomes for lunch." So the world becomes for lunch." So the world becomes automatic and magical in this fashion, automatic and magical in this fashion, automatic and magical in this fashion, right? Uh so much you know AI today is right? Uh so much you know AI today is right? Uh so much you know AI today is something you use on your computer or on something you use on your computer or on something you use on your computer or on your phone and you have to go to it uh your phone and you have to go to it uh your phone and you have to go to it uh in the near future. It is I said in the near future. It is I said in the near future. It is I said ambient. It's enabling you always. Uh ambient. It's enabling you always. Uh ambient. It's enabling you always. Uh and we can start to dream at a much and we can start to dream at a much and we can start to dream at a much higher level higher level higher level >> uh than ever before. our ambitions can >> uh than ever before. our ambitions can >> uh than ever before. our ambitions can scale, our desires can scale. Um, scale, our desires can scale. Um, scale, our desires can scale. Um, anyway, so a lot I also think that the anyway, so a lot I also think that the anyway, so a lot I also think that the economy is going to go through the roof. economy is going to go through the roof. economy is going to go through the roof. >> Um, and we can talk about that. >> Um, and we can talk about that. >> Um, and we can talk about that. >> Um, wow. Number one, you know, you I got >> Um, wow. Number one, you know, you I got >> Um, wow. Number one, you know, you I got to know you enough over the last few to know you enough over the last few to know you enough over the last few years. You're an optimist, I think, by years. You're an optimist, I think, by years. You're an optimist, I think, by nature. nature. nature. >> And so when I've asked you that >> And so when I've asked you that >> And so when I've asked you that question, it was a lot of bubble gums question, it was a lot of bubble gums question, it was a lot of bubble gums and rainbows right there. And very and rainbows right there. And very and rainbows right there. And very exciting. same time my son who asked exciting. same time my son who asked exciting. same time my son who asked that question um you know he's getting that question um you know he's getting that question um you know he's getting into his mid20s now a couple years out into his mid20s now a couple years out into his mid20s now a couple years out of college and I noticed this last year of college and I noticed this last year of college and I noticed this last year Peter at the college graduations I don't Peter at the college graduations I don't Peter at the college graduations I don't know if you've seen these clips know if you've seen these clips know if you've seen these clips >> any of the people giving the >> any of the people giving the >> any of the people giving the commencement addresses brought up AIs it commencement addresses brought up AIs it commencement addresses brought up AIs it was AI I mean the crowd just the kids was AI I mean the crowd just the kids was AI I mean the crowd just the kids started booing started booing started booing >> or Eric Schmidt I mean I know Eric well >> or Eric Schmidt I mean I know Eric well >> or Eric Schmidt I mean I know Eric well >> yeah I do I know I know Eric as well and >> yeah I do I know I know Eric as well and >> yeah I do I know I know Eric as well and so the booze rang all over the place so the booze rang all over the place so the booze rang all over the place every single time AI came up in one of every single time AI came up in one of every single time AI came up in one of these at least that I saw and so that these at least that I saw and so that these at least that I saw and so that tells me there's a lot of trepidation tells me there's a lot of trepidation tells me there's a lot of trepidation and worry at people that are in that and worry at people that are in that and worry at people that are in that entering the labor force. This is a entering the labor force. This is a entering the labor force. This is a generic question. I know I don't want generic question. I know I don't want generic question. I know I don't want you to answer it this way. I want you to you to answer it this way. I want you to you to answer it this way. I want you to dig deep in that brain. What advice dig deep in that brain. What advice dig deep in that brain. What advice really would you give someone that's at really would you give someone that's at really would you give someone that's at 22, 24, 25? Here's the industries that 22, 24, 25? Here's the industries that 22, 24, 25? Here's the industries that will exist and will flourish and here's will exist and will flourish and here's will exist and will flourish and here's the ones that aren't going anywhere and the ones that aren't going anywhere and the ones that aren't going anywhere and are probably going to go away. Really are probably going to go away. Really are probably going to go away. Really important to me uh and something I've important to me uh and something I've important to me uh and something I've dedicated a good amount of my life to uh dedicated a good amount of my life to uh dedicated a good amount of my life to uh to understanding and addressing. I mean to understanding and addressing. I mean to understanding and addressing. I mean my my innermost purpose is to inspire my my innermost purpose is to inspire my my innermost purpose is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs and humanity to and guide entrepreneurs and humanity to and guide entrepreneurs and humanity to create a hopeful compelling vision for create a hopeful compelling vision for create a hopeful compelling vision for the future. So uh first of all it's the future. So uh first of all it's the future. So uh first of all it's really important that anybody from my really important that anybody from my really important that anybody from my 15year-old boys to your 20 something 15year-old boys to your 20 something 15year-old boys to your 20 something year old son how old is your son? year old son how old is your son? year old son how old is your son? >> 24 >> 24 >> 24 >> 24 um to find a purpose. Uh that I think >> 24 um to find a purpose. Uh that I think >> 24 um to find a purpose. Uh that I think that's the single most important. So I that's the single most important. So I that's the single most important. So I teach a lot about mindsets. I think teach a lot about mindsets. I think teach a lot about mindsets. I think mindset's the most important thing you mindset's the most important thing you mindset's the most important thing you have. Your mindset determines how you have. Your mindset determines how you have. Your mindset determines how you deal with a challenge or how you deal deal with a challenge or how you deal deal with a challenge or how you deal with an opportunity. with an opportunity. with an opportunity. >> And uh the mindsets required for this >> And uh the mindsets required for this >> And uh the mindsets required for this next decade fundamentally are next decade fundamentally are next decade fundamentally are purpose-driven mindset and a curiosity purpose-driven mindset and a curiosity purpose-driven mindset and a curiosity mindset. A purpose, what is a purpose? mindset. A purpose, what is a purpose? mindset. A purpose, what is a purpose? So a passion is something you love So a passion is something you love So a passion is something you love doing. A purpose is something you love doing. A purpose is something you love doing. A purpose is something you love doing that helps other people, doing that helps other people, doing that helps other people, >> right? Um and so when I, you know, you >> right? Um and so when I, you know, you >> right? Um and so when I, you know, you don't have to have one purpose for all don't have to have one purpose for all don't have to have one purpose for all of your life. Your purpose can change of your life. Your purpose can change of your life. Your purpose can change over time. You can layer it. My first over time. You can layer it. My first over time. You can layer it. My first purpose was opening up the space purpose was opening up the space purpose was opening up the space frontier. You know, that launched Zerog frontier. You know, that launched Zerog frontier. You know, that launched Zerog Space Adventures, the X-Prize Space Adventures, the X-Prize Space Adventures, the X-Prize Foundation, a whole bunch of companies Foundation, a whole bunch of companies Foundation, a whole bunch of companies of how do we make humanity of how do we make humanity of how do we make humanity multilanetary? multilanetary? multilanetary? My purpose of late has been how do we My purpose of late has been how do we My purpose of late has been how do we navigate the next 10 years? Cuz while I navigate the next 10 years? Cuz while I navigate the next 10 years? Cuz while I believe we're going to have incredible believe we're going to have incredible believe we're going to have incredible future of abundance elements I just future of abundance elements I just future of abundance elements I just discussed a minute ago, I also believe discussed a minute ago, I also believe discussed a minute ago, I also believe we're going to have a a rough patch over we're going to have a a rough patch over we're going to have a a rough patch over the next two to eight years. Um, and a the next two to eight years. Um, and a the next two to eight years. Um, and a lot of that comes from fear about the lot of that comes from fear about the lot of that comes from fear about the future. I'll come back to that in a future. I'll come back to that in a future. I'll come back to that in a moment. But if someone can find their moment. But if someone can find their moment. But if someone can find their purpose and they can maintain a purpose and they can maintain a purpose and they can maintain a curiosity mindset, the greatest educator curiosity mindset, the greatest educator curiosity mindset, the greatest educator in the world is your AI. Uh, any of the in the world is your AI. Uh, any of the in the world is your AI. Uh, any of the large language models that you can chat large language models that you can chat large language models that you can chat with, you can learn anything. with, you can learn anything. with, you can learn anything. >> But if you have a purpose like I I >> But if you have a purpose like I I >> But if you have a purpose like I I really want to solve this problem, I really want to solve this problem, I really want to solve this problem, I really want to create this future. Uh, really want to create this future. Uh, really want to create this future. Uh, that purpose is your guiding star. It's that purpose is your guiding star. It's that purpose is your guiding star. It's what drives you. It what wakes you up in what drives you. It what wakes you up in what drives you. It what wakes you up in the morning and has you going through the morning and has you going through the morning and has you going through the rest of the day, right? You and I the rest of the day, right? You and I the rest of the day, right? You and I are so lucky that we have a a purpose in are so lucky that we have a a purpose in are so lucky that we have a a purpose in all that we do. We love doing it, right? all that we do. We love doing it, right? all that we do. We love doing it, right? It's joyful. It gives us energy. If if It's joyful. It gives us energy. If if It's joyful. It gives us energy. If if someone can find their purpose and you someone can find their purpose and you someone can find their purpose and you find your purpose by by uh being around find your purpose by by uh being around find your purpose by by uh being around other people by uh by uh you know other people by uh by uh you know other people by uh by uh you know thinking about what would I what would I thinking about what would I what would I thinking about what would I what would I spend the day doing uh if I had I could spend the day doing uh if I had I could spend the day doing uh if I had I could do anything you know what gives me the do anything you know what gives me the do anything you know what gives me the greatest excitement and how do I connect greatest excitement and how do I connect greatest excitement and how do I connect that with helping other people the that with helping other people the that with helping other people the ability to help people right I like to ability to help people right I like to ability to help people right I like to say that the world's biggest problems say that the world's biggest problems say that the world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business are the world's biggest business are the world's biggest business opportunities want to become a opportunities want to become a opportunities want to become a billionaire help a billion people these billionaire help a billion people these billionaire help a billion people these alignments are there. So if you can find alignments are there. So if you can find alignments are there. So if you can find your purpose, your purpose, your purpose, >> it will be your rocket fuel >> it will be your rocket fuel >> it will be your rocket fuel >> and curiosity is like okay, how would I >> and curiosity is like okay, how would I >> and curiosity is like okay, how would I do that? So uh you know uh I don't my do that? So uh you know uh I don't my do that? So uh you know uh I don't my podcast Moonshots has done very well, podcast Moonshots has done very well, podcast Moonshots has done very well, not as as great as as your incredible not as as great as as your incredible not as as great as as your incredible podcast has done and an honor to be here podcast has done and an honor to be here podcast has done and an honor to be here with you. with you. with you. >> Thank you. uh and I talk about the fact >> Thank you. uh and I talk about the fact >> Thank you. uh and I talk about the fact that anybody can be an entrepreneur and that anybody can be an entrepreneur and that anybody can be an entrepreneur and people push back on that. But if you are people push back on that. But if you are people push back on that. But if you are able, you know, the old so the old um uh able, you know, the old so the old um uh able, you know, the old so the old um uh social contract was do well in high social contract was do well in high social contract was do well in high school, get into good college, get a school, get into good college, get a school, get into good college, get a degree, and go get a job. And there's a degree, and go get a job. And there's a degree, and go get a job. And there's a lot of evidence and this is why Eric lot of evidence and this is why Eric lot of evidence and this is why Eric Schmidt's getting booed and others Schmidt's getting booed and others Schmidt's getting booed and others getting booed at the commencement getting booed at the commencement getting booed at the commencement addresses that that paradigm is cooked addresses that that paradigm is cooked addresses that that paradigm is cooked um that you know going and getting a job um that you know going and getting a job um that you know going and getting a job which is really the industrial which is really the industrial which is really the industrial revolution's way of we need factory revolution's way of we need factory revolution's way of we need factory workers need people who can do these workers need people who can do these workers need people who can do these jobs for us. Instead, if you can find jobs for us. Instead, if you can find jobs for us. Instead, if you can find your purpose, you can find a problem your purpose, you can find a problem your purpose, you can find a problem that you care about solving and you can that you care about solving and you can that you care about solving and you can build a solution for it. build a solution for it. build a solution for it. >> So, I just launched uh I was at Google >> So, I just launched uh I was at Google >> So, I just launched uh I was at Google IO, their big event of the year, last IO, their big event of the year, last IO, their big event of the year, last week in fact, and uh we launched week in fact, and uh we launched week in fact, and uh we launched something called the Build with Gemini something called the Build with Gemini something called the Build with Gemini X-P Prize. Um it's the largest hackathon X-P Prize. Um it's the largest hackathon X-P Prize. Um it's the largest hackathon in the world, and it's meant to be a in the world, and it's meant to be a in the world, and it's meant to be a hackathon for non-coders. hackathon for non-coders. hackathon for non-coders. >> Uh it's meant to So, here's what you >> Uh it's meant to So, here's what you >> Uh it's meant to So, here's what you have to do. You can go to have to do. You can go to have to do. You can go to geminixxprise.com. geminixxprise.com. geminixxprise.com. Xpr R I Z Gemini um and is $2 million in Xpr R I Z Gemini um and is $2 million in Xpr R I Z Gemini um and is $2 million in prize money. You should pick a problem prize money. You should pick a problem prize money. You should pick a problem that impacts a h 100,000 people or more. that impacts a h 100,000 people or more. that impacts a h 100,000 people or more. You [clears throat] know, it should be a You [clears throat] know, it should be a You [clears throat] know, it should be a reasonably good problem. And there are a reasonably good problem. And there are a reasonably good problem. And there are a lot of problems that impact 100,000 lot of problems that impact 100,000 lot of problems that impact 100,000 people globally. And then in plain people globally. And then in plain people globally. And then in plain English, you should describe, you know, English, you should describe, you know, English, you should describe, you know, this is what the website should look this is what the website should look this is what the website should look like. This is what the app should look like. This is what the app should look like. This is what the app should look like. this is the problem I'm trying to like. this is the problem I'm trying to like. this is the problem I'm trying to solve. solve. solve. >> And you can use the current agents out >> And you can use the current agents out >> And you can use the current agents out there to build a solution. And so the there to build a solution. And so the there to build a solution. And so the goal here is um pick a problem, uh goal here is um pick a problem, uh goal here is um pick a problem, uh describe what you want to do to solve it describe what you want to do to solve it describe what you want to do to solve it and how you want to solve it in English. and how you want to solve it in English. and how you want to solve it in English. Uh your agent will code it, then you're Uh your agent will code it, then you're Uh your agent will code it, then you're going to market it, and whoever can going to market it, and whoever can going to market it, and whoever can generate the most revenue in three generate the most revenue in three generate the most revenue in three months time will win this. There is a a months time will win this. There is a a months time will win this. There is a a half a million dollar prize, a number of half a million dollar prize, a number of half a million dollar prize, a number of $100,000 prizes, and then 15 $50,000 $100,000 prizes, and then 15 $50,000 $100,000 prizes, and then 15 $50,000 prizes. And the notion is again, I want prizes. And the notion is again, I want prizes. And the notion is again, I want to teach people to take control of their to teach people to take control of their to teach people to take control of their destiny. They have agency. destiny. They have agency. destiny. They have agency. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um and I, you know, I've had so many >> Um and I, you know, I've had so many >> Um and I, you know, I've had so many people who've written back on on my my people who've written back on on my my people who've written back on on my my podcast saying, you know, I did what you podcast saying, you know, I did what you podcast saying, you know, I did what you said. said. said. >> I went and I used my curiosity mindset >> I went and I used my curiosity mindset >> I went and I used my curiosity mindset and I said, this is who I am. This is my and I said, this is who I am. This is my and I said, this is who I am. This is my skills. this is where I'm doing in life. skills. this is where I'm doing in life. skills. this is where I'm doing in life. Uh I want to build a business um that Uh I want to build a business um that Uh I want to build a business um that uses my my passion and and like and uses my my passion and and like and uses my my passion and and like and brainstorming with the AI. And I've had brainstorming with the AI. And I've had brainstorming with the AI. And I've had so many people who literally have gone so many people who literally have gone so many people who literally have gone from having no idea what to do from having no idea what to do from having no idea what to do >> to actually coming up with an idea and >> to actually coming up with an idea and >> to actually coming up with an idea and then be and then building it. then be and then building it. then be and then building it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Using AI because it is it is now at a >> Using AI because it is it is now at a >> Using AI because it is it is now at a point where every single human point where every single human point where every single human anywhere I'll give you the example. I anywhere I'll give you the example. I anywhere I'll give you the example. I was in Morocco with my family uh and we was in Morocco with my family uh and we was in Morocco with my family uh and we were in a small village and we were were in a small village and we were were in a small village and we were introduced by the hotel concierge to a introduced by the hotel concierge to a introduced by the hotel concierge to a young man who was giving ebike tours of young man who was giving ebike tours of young man who was giving ebike tours of that village. that village. that village. >> And he took us around. We stopped for >> And he took us around. We stopped for >> And he took us around. We stopped for some Moroccan tea at uh at his home and some Moroccan tea at uh at his home and some Moroccan tea at uh at his home and started a conversation. Said, "How did started a conversation. Said, "How did started a conversation. Said, "How did you start doing this?" He goes, "Well, I you start doing this?" He goes, "Well, I you start doing this?" He goes, "Well, I came back. I had no in income. I got on came back. I had no in income. I got on came back. I had no in income. I got on chat GPT and I said, "These are my chat GPT and I said, "These are my chat GPT and I said, "These are my skills. This is what I do. can you help skills. This is what I do. can you help skills. This is what I do. can you help me brainstorm something? And this ebike me brainstorm something? And this ebike me brainstorm something? And this ebike touring came out of it and it became a touring came out of it and it became a touring came out of it and it became a really successful business for him. really successful business for him. really successful business for him. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> and that is possible for anybody. Uh, >> and that is possible for anybody. Uh, >> and that is possible for anybody. Uh, and I really I want people to realize and I really I want people to realize and I really I want people to realize they have agency. they have agency. they have agency. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They have agency in the world. >> They have agency in the world. >> They have agency in the world. >> You know, it sounds to me by the way two >> You know, it sounds to me by the way two >> You know, it sounds to me by the way two things on that I want to and we'll keep things on that I want to and we'll keep things on that I want to and we'll keep going back and forth. One is that I've going back and forth. One is that I've going back and forth. One is that I've never heard this and by the way, you never heard this and by the way, you never heard this and by the way, you know, I've done four trillion podcasts know, I've done four trillion podcasts know, I've done four trillion podcasts and read all the books and I never heard and read all the books and I never heard and read all the books and I never heard someone paint the distinction between someone paint the distinction between someone paint the distinction between passion and purpose like that. passion and purpose like that. passion and purpose like that. >> There is a difference and I don't even >> There is a difference and I don't even >> There is a difference and I don't even know that I really ever realized it know that I really ever realized it know that I really ever realized it until you just articulated it. That's until you just articulated it. That's until you just articulated it. That's number one. Number two is this is a time number one. Number two is this is a time number one. Number two is this is a time where you really have to take agency where you really have to take agency where you really have to take agency over your life. We're going to go back over your life. We're going to go back over your life. We're going to go back actually to a former time where most actually to a former time where most actually to a former time where most people are self-employed and do work for people are self-employed and do work for people are self-employed and do work for themselves and don't work. themselves and don't work. themselves and don't work. >> The job is a recent creation. >> The job is a recent creation. >> The job is a recent creation. >> Correct. It's the last year creation. >> Correct. It's the last year creation. >> Correct. It's the last year creation. People don't realize it. That's right. People don't realize it. That's right. People don't realize it. That's right. 500 years ago you did or thousand years 500 years ago you did or thousand years 500 years ago you did or thousand years a you didn't have a job you wor you a you didn't have a job you wor you a you didn't have a job you wor you literally you survived Sadguru I don't literally you survived Sadguru I don't literally you survived Sadguru I don't know if you know know if you know know if you know >> Sagur I love Sagguru he's been on the >> Sagur I love Sagguru he's been on the >> Sagur I love Sagguru he's been on the show he's a good friend show he's a good friend show he's a good friend >> yeah so I was on a I was on a stage with >> yeah so I was on a I was on a stage with >> yeah so I was on a I was on a stage with him um 10 years ago he said something I him um 10 years ago he said something I him um 10 years ago he said something I never forgot he go he said you know um never forgot he go he said you know um never forgot he go he said you know um technology is the means by which technology is the means by which technology is the means by which humanity takes a vacation from survival humanity takes a vacation from survival humanity takes a vacation from survival [laughter] I like [clears throat] boom [laughter] I like [clears throat] boom [laughter] I like [clears throat] boom that's so powerful that's so powerful that's so powerful >> wow that is powerful one of the things >> wow that is powerful one of the things >> wow that is powerful one of the things that's really booming right now is that's really booming right now is that's really booming right now is people deciding to take their children's people deciding to take their children's people deciding to take their children's education into their own hands. 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The other the flip side of what you just said, the flip side of what you just said, the flip side of what you just said, taking agency, taking initiative for taking agency, taking initiative for taking agency, taking initiative for your life and starting to control the your life and starting to control the your life and starting to control the direction of it and really losing this direction of it and really losing this direction of it and really losing this concept of dependency on not just concept of dependency on not just concept of dependency on not just government, but also an employer. You're government, but also an employer. You're government, but also an employer. You're going to have to probably break yourself going to have to probably break yourself going to have to probably break yourself from that. And no one said that on the from that. And no one said that on the from that. And no one said that on the show until you just said it. The flip show until you just said it. The flip show until you just said it. The flip side of that, however, is for those that side of that, however, is for those that side of that, however, is for those that don't, you know, I worry about certain don't, you know, I worry about certain don't, you know, I worry about certain things atrophying as a human species. things atrophying as a human species. things atrophying as a human species. So, for example, I want your opinion on So, for example, I want your opinion on So, for example, I want your opinion on this. I think it's fair to say, and this this. I think it's fair to say, and this this. I think it's fair to say, and this is a broad stroke. I don't mean this as is a broad stroke. I don't mean this as is a broad stroke. I don't mean this as a criticism, but I think guys, people a criticism, but I think guys, people a criticism, but I think guys, people our age learned how to communicate in our age learned how to communicate in our age learned how to communicate in interpersonal relationships because we interpersonal relationships because we interpersonal relationships because we didn't have devices to text and call and didn't have devices to text and call and didn't have devices to text and call and all that. I think that's something all that. I think that's something all that. I think that's something that's atrophied with the next that's atrophied with the next that's atrophied with the next generation. their their interpersonal generation. their their interpersonal generation. their their interpersonal communication skills. It's just sort of communication skills. It's just sort of communication skills. It's just sort of become weaker as they've used devices become weaker as they've used devices become weaker as they've used devices [clears throat] to do that for them. [clears throat] to do that for them. [clears throat] to do that for them. >> Are you concerned about that as an >> Are you concerned about that as an >> Are you concerned about that as an overall problem with AI? Meaning people, overall problem with AI? Meaning people, overall problem with AI? Meaning people, it's doing everything for you that we it's doing everything for you that we it's doing everything for you that we just as people begin to become more and just as people begin to become more and just as people begin to become more and more dependent and our brains begin more dependent and our brains begin more dependent and our brains begin literally begin to atrophy because we're literally begin to atrophy because we're literally begin to atrophy because we're not using them as much. uh you know I I not using them as much. uh you know I I not using them as much. uh you know I I wrote a a sub I have a a Substack that I wrote a a sub I have a a Substack that I wrote a a sub I have a a Substack that I put out twice a week and I recently put put out twice a week and I recently put put out twice a week and I recently put out a uh a newsletter on what I call the out a uh a newsletter on what I call the out a uh a newsletter on what I call the five forks splits of humanity and the five forks splits of humanity and the five forks splits of humanity and the first one is what I call the consumer first one is what I call the consumer first one is what I call the consumer versus creator versus creator versus creator and I think people are going to have an and I think people are going to have an and I think people are going to have an option and it's going to be gradation of option and it's going to be gradation of option and it's going to be gradation of course but there are those who are going course but there are those who are going course but there are those who are going to use this incredible technology coming to use this incredible technology coming to use this incredible technology coming our way our way our way >> to be a consumer where you're sitting >> to be a consumer where you're sitting >> to be a consumer where you're sitting back on the couch, your optimist robot back on the couch, your optimist robot back on the couch, your optimist robot is bringing you a beer uh or you know is bringing you a beer uh or you know is bringing you a beer uh or you know whatever and you're watching an AI whatever and you're watching an AI whatever and you're watching an AI generated Netflix series that stars you generated Netflix series that stars you generated Netflix series that stars you and your friends uh on the you know on and your friends uh on the you know on and your friends uh on the you know on the Starship Enterprise and it's like the Starship Enterprise and it's like the Starship Enterprise and it's like lit literally you're consuming and there lit literally you're consuming and there lit literally you're consuming and there going to be those who are creators those going to be those who are creators those going to be those who are creators those who use this incredible technology to who use this incredible technology to who use this incredible technology to create whatever they want create whatever they want create whatever they want >> so good Right. And so it's it's the >> so good Right. And so it's it's the >> so good Right. And so it's it's the Wall-E future as the consumer versus the Wall-E future as the consumer versus the Wall-E future as the consumer versus the Star Trek future as the creator. Star Trek future as the creator. Star Trek future as the creator. >> And we're gonna have to choose. >> And we're gonna have to choose. >> And we're gonna have to choose. >> And there'll be those that are just >> And there'll be those that are just >> And there'll be those that are just happy to sit back and we're going to happy to sit back and we're going to happy to sit back and we're going to have some version of universal basic have some version of universal basic have some version of universal basic income. We can speak about about income. We can speak about about income. We can speak about about >> You're reading my mind. That's my next >> You're reading my mind. That's my next >> You're reading my mind. That's my next question. You're [laughter] reading my question. You're [laughter] reading my question. You're [laughter] reading my mind. Keep going. mind. Keep going. mind. Keep going. >> All right. And and there are though >> All right. And and there are though >> All right. And and there are though again those are the consumers of the again those are the consumers of the again those are the consumers of the technology. It's almost like technology. It's almost like technology. It's almost like technological socialism where not the technological socialism where not the technological socialism where not the state is taking care of you but state is taking care of you but state is taking care of you but technology is taking care of you. technology is taking care of you. technology is taking care of you. >> And then there's the creators who are >> And then there's the creators who are >> And then there's the creators who are like I want to go big. I this is my like I want to go big. I this is my like I want to go big. I this is my purpose in life. How do I do that? How purpose in life. How do I do that? How purpose in life. How do I do that? How do I build this capability for people? do I build this capability for people? do I build this capability for people? >> Um and >> Um and >> Um and I'm on a soapbox saying you have the I'm on a soapbox saying you have the I'm on a soapbox saying you have the tools tools tools >> to make your greatest dreams come true. >> to make your greatest dreams come true. >> to make your greatest dreams come true. >> Um don't self-limit yourself. Most of us >> Um don't self-limit yourself. Most of us >> Um don't self-limit yourself. Most of us limit what we believe we can do. limit what we believe we can do. limit what we believe we can do. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> You know, by the way, and that >> You know, by the way, and that >> You know, by the way, and that limitation oftent times has been some of limitation oftent times has been some of limitation oftent times has been some of it's been valid. It's been based on your it's been valid. It's been based on your it's been valid. It's been based on your limited intellect or your limited limited intellect or your limited limited intellect or your limited ability to reach. And now, actually, the ability to reach. And now, actually, the ability to reach. And now, actually, the more I'm thinking through this, those more I'm thinking through this, those more I'm thinking through this, those barriers of entry are can be eliminated barriers of entry are can be eliminated barriers of entry are can be eliminated because of AI. And totally and and it because of AI. And totally and and it because of AI. And totally and and it allows a more average ordinary person allows a more average ordinary person allows a more average ordinary person like myself to go build an extraordinary like myself to go build an extraordinary like myself to go build an extraordinary life. you you're making me honestly I'm life. you you're making me honestly I'm life. you you're making me honestly I'm actually really thinking about where my actually really thinking about where my actually really thinking about where my messaging needs to go myself and it's messaging needs to go myself and it's messaging needs to go myself and it's certainly the more I'm talking with you certainly the more I'm talking with you certainly the more I'm talking with you it appears to be that you've got to it appears to be that you've got to it appears to be that you've got to begin to take agency initiative over begin to take agency initiative over begin to take agency initiative over your life and I so my next question was your life and I so my next question was your life and I so my next question was this all the way back to the Milton this all the way back to the Milton this all the way back to the Milton Friedman days of some sort of guaranteed Friedman days of some sort of guaranteed Friedman days of some sort of guaranteed minimum income has been a concept most minimum income has been a concept most minimum income has been a concept most by the way conservatives don't know this by the way conservatives don't know this by the way conservatives don't know this first guy that promoted it was actually first guy that promoted it was actually first guy that promoted it was actually a conservative and then it's become more a conservative and then it's become more a conservative and then it's become more of kind of I think a liberal construct of kind of I think a liberal construct of kind of I think a liberal construct but now you have guys like and Peter is but now you have guys like and Peter is but now you have guys like and Peter is one of the few people who truly has been one of the few people who truly has been one of the few people who truly has been close to Elon Musk. You you know, you close to Elon Musk. You you know, you close to Elon Musk. You you know, you hear him say probably won't be any jobs hear him say probably won't be any jobs hear him say probably won't be any jobs in 5 years or 8 years. What are your in 5 years or 8 years. What are your in 5 years or 8 years. What are your thoughts on do you think we're heading thoughts on do you think we're heading thoughts on do you think we're heading towards an inevitable some sort of towards an inevitable some sort of towards an inevitable some sort of universal basic income and is that a bad universal basic income and is that a bad universal basic income and is that a bad thing if we did? thing if we did? thing if we did? >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, so here's here's the reality. Uh my so here's here's the reality. Uh my so here's here's the reality. Uh my concern is again this this turbulent concern is again this this turbulent concern is again this this turbulent period my numbers are you know period my numbers are you know period my numbers are you know >> two to eight years >> two to eight years >> two to eight years >> very very very soon you know next year >> very very very soon you know next year >> very very very soon you know next year uh to or two to the next eight years. uh to or two to the next eight years. uh to or two to the next eight years. >> Um and we saw you know Sam Alman get a >> Um and we saw you know Sam Alman get a >> Um and we saw you know Sam Alman get a [clears throat] Maltaf cocktail and [clears throat] Maltaf cocktail and [clears throat] Maltaf cocktail and gunshots. We see Eric Schmidt getting gunshots. We see Eric Schmidt getting gunshots. We see Eric Schmidt getting booed. uh and the turbulence will come booed. uh and the turbulence will come booed. uh and the turbulence will come from young testosterone laden males who from young testosterone laden males who from young testosterone laden males who can't get a job can't get a job can't get a job >> early on. The the biggest area of >> early on. The the biggest area of >> early on. The the biggest area of unemployment is ages 22 to 28 recent unemployment is ages 22 to 28 recent unemployment is ages 22 to 28 recent college graduates, college graduates, college graduates, >> right? You've just spent hundreds of >> right? You've just spent hundreds of >> right? You've just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars thousands of dollars thousands of dollars >> to get a degree that is not enabling you >> to get a degree that is not enabling you >> to get a degree that is not enabling you to get the job you thought you were to get the job you thought you were to get the job you thought you were going to get. And if you can't afford a going to get. And if you can't afford a going to get. And if you can't afford a car, can't afford a home, can't get car, can't afford a home, can't get car, can't afford a home, can't get married because of that, you're angry. married because of that, you're angry. married because of that, you're angry. And this is where anger is coming from. And this is where anger is coming from. And this is where anger is coming from. Uh and we're going to see I think in Uh and we're going to see I think in Uh and we're going to see I think in this period of of social unrest, the this period of of social unrest, the this period of of social unrest, the government is going to have to take some government is going to have to take some government is going to have to take some level of action. And what action can level of action. And what action can level of action. And what action can they take? It's the equivalent of COVID they take? It's the equivalent of COVID they take? It's the equivalent of COVID checks, right? Uh we saw that $1,000 a checks, right? Uh we saw that $1,000 a checks, right? Uh we saw that $1,000 a month being issued by the government. month being issued by the government. month being issued by the government. >> Uh I think it's likely to be closer to >> Uh I think it's likely to be closer to >> Uh I think it's likely to be closer to like $3,000 a month uh as a UBI version. like $3,000 a month uh as a UBI version. like $3,000 a month uh as a UBI version. It won't be for everybody. It be those It won't be for everybody. It be those It won't be for everybody. It be those who really are in this uh period of who really are in this uh period of who really are in this uh period of extremists. Um when I had Elon and extremists. Um when I had Elon and extremists. Um when I had Elon and Elon's been a friend for 26 years. No Elon's been a friend for 26 years. No Elon's been a friend for 26 years. No matter what you think of him matter what you think of him matter what you think of him politically, whatever the guy has built politically, whatever the guy has built politically, whatever the guy has built the most extraordinary companies on the the most extraordinary companies on the the most extraordinary companies on the planet and uh I know him well enough to planet and uh I know him well enough to planet and uh I know him well enough to know he loves solving problems. M know he loves solving problems. M know he loves solving problems. M >> that's his that's what drives him >> that's his that's what drives him >> that's his that's what drives him >> to create solutions to the world's >> to create solutions to the world's >> to create solutions to the world's biggest problems over and over again on biggest problems over and over again on biggest problems over and over again on energy on compute on opening the space energy on compute on opening the space energy on compute on opening the space frontier all of these areas um and so I frontier all of these areas um and so I frontier all of these areas um and so I had him twice on my moonshots podcast had him twice on my moonshots podcast had him twice on my moonshots podcast once in January and recently in March uh once in January and recently in March uh once in January and recently in March uh during my abundance summit during my abundance summit during my abundance summit >> and he said two things one we're going >> and he said two things one we're going >> and he said two things one we're going to head towards universal high income I to head towards universal high income I to head towards universal high income I asked him how do we do that And you know asked him how do we do that And you know asked him how do we do that And you know he had some basic ideas. I've since he had some basic ideas. I've since he had some basic ideas. I've since published a few papers on this. And then published a few papers on this. And then published a few papers on this. And then he said recently in March that we're he said recently in March that we're he said recently in March that we're going to see uh you know ASI advanced going to see uh you know ASI advanced going to see uh you know ASI advanced you know artificial super intelligence you know artificial super intelligence you know artificial super intelligence and humanoid robots uh creating so much and humanoid robots uh creating so much and humanoid robots uh creating so much supply of whatever you want and these supply of whatever you want and these supply of whatever you want and these are his words that you could not want are his words that you could not want are his words that you could not want enough enough enough >> where AI and technology could not >> where AI and technology could not >> where AI and technology could not provide that for you and so what provide that for you and so what provide that for you and so what universal high income is not that universal high income is not that universal high income is not that everybody's becoming you know a everybody's becoming you know a everybody's becoming you know a multi-billionaire multi-billionaire multi-billionaire it's that the cost of things are going it's that the cost of things are going it's that the cost of things are going to begin to plummet. to begin to plummet. to begin to plummet. >> Uh they'll be higher in the near term >> Uh they'll be higher in the near term >> Uh they'll be higher in the near term and you know we're going to end up uh and you know we're going to end up uh and you know we're going to end up uh crushing the existing health care system crushing the existing health care system crushing the existing health care system and education system and education system and education system >> thinking that >> thinking that >> thinking that >> right where the best health care in the >> right where the best health care in the >> right where the best health care in the world will be free. world will be free. world will be free. >> In other words, we this is the case >> In other words, we this is the case >> In other words, we this is the case today that AIs are a much better today that AIs are a much better today that AIs are a much better diagnostician than a human physician. diagnostician than a human physician. diagnostician than a human physician. And we talked about this on the podcast And we talked about this on the podcast And we talked about this on the podcast as well that if you need surgery in the as well that if you need surgery in the as well that if you need surgery in the future, you know, if you try and get the future, you know, if you try and get the future, you know, if you try and get the best surgeon, it's expensive. But best surgeon, it's expensive. But best surgeon, it's expensive. But imagine a future in which the best imagine a future in which the best imagine a future in which the best surgeon in the world is a humanoid robot surgeon in the world is a humanoid robot surgeon in the world is a humanoid robot which has not seen you know 10,000 which has not seen you know 10,000 which has not seen you know 10,000 surgeries during its lifetime. It's seen surgeries during its lifetime. It's seen surgeries during its lifetime. It's seen uh you know 10 million surgeries. All of uh you know 10 million surgeries. All of uh you know 10 million surgeries. All of the robots share the memory. So the the robots share the memory. So the the robots share the memory. So the robot is the most precise, the most robot is the most precise, the most robot is the most precise, the most capable. And what's the cost of that capable. And what's the cost of that capable. And what's the cost of that robot delivering the surgery? It's the robot delivering the surgery? It's the robot delivering the surgery? It's the cost of electricity, cost of electricity, cost of electricity, >> the energy, >> the energy, >> the energy, >> and the capital expense. And these >> and the capital expense. And these >> and the capital expense. And these robots, the prediction from Brett Adcock robots, the prediction from Brett Adcock robots, the prediction from Brett Adcock at Figure, uh, from Brent, uh, from, uh, at Figure, uh, from Brent, uh, from, uh, at Figure, uh, from Brent, uh, from, uh, uh, from, uh, uh, uh, Mr. Borick at, um, uh, from, uh, uh, uh, Mr. Borick at, um, uh, from, uh, uh, uh, Mr. Borick at, um, at, uh, 1X by Elon, that the cost of at, uh, 1X by Elon, that the cost of at, uh, 1X by Elon, that the cost of these robots will be around $20,000 these robots will be around $20,000 these robots will be around $20,000 each, which means you can lease them for each, which means you can lease them for each, which means you can lease them for 300 bucks a month, $10 a day, under a 300 bucks a month, $10 a day, under a 300 bucks a month, $10 a day, under a dollar per hour. So imagine the best dollar per hour. So imagine the best dollar per hour. So imagine the best surgeons in the world, surgeons in the world, surgeons in the world, these robots able to provide the best these robots able to provide the best these robots able to provide the best surgery whether you're in Batswana or surgery whether you're in Batswana or surgery whether you're in Batswana or Boston. Boston. Boston. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um we're going to also see the best >> Um we're going to also see the best >> Um we're going to also see the best educators in the world be AIS that knows educators in the world be AIS that knows educators in the world be AIS that knows your child's favorite color, sports your child's favorite color, sports your child's favorite color, sports star, their language skills, what they star, their language skills, what they star, their language skills, what they can do, and it creates the perfect can do, and it creates the perfect can do, and it creates the perfect educational experience educational experience educational experience >> uh to help take your child from where >> uh to help take your child from where >> uh to help take your child from where they are to another level. driven by they are to another level. driven by they are to another level. driven by purpose, driven by curiosity, right? So purpose, driven by curiosity, right? So purpose, driven by curiosity, right? So the things that we spend a lot of money the things that we spend a lot of money the things that we spend a lot of money on are going to begin to dematerialize. on are going to begin to dematerialize. on are going to begin to dematerialize. Rather than owning a car, you're going Rather than owning a car, you're going Rather than owning a car, you're going to be chauffeured around by an to be chauffeured around by an to be chauffeured around by an autonomous vehicle that's four or five autonomous vehicle that's four or five autonomous vehicle that's four or five times cheaper than owning a car. So the times cheaper than owning a car. So the times cheaper than owning a car. So the poorest people are being chauffeured poorest people are being chauffeured poorest people are being chauffeured around, around, around, >> right? and that that car, you know, >> right? and that that car, you know, >> right? and that that car, you know, you're at breakfast, you take you step you're at breakfast, you take you step you're at breakfast, you take you step up from the breakfast table, you're up from the breakfast table, you're up from the breakfast table, you're heading towards the front door, your AI heading towards the front door, your AI heading towards the front door, your AI knows your schedule, you open the front knows your schedule, you open the front knows your schedule, you open the front door of your home, and a car pulls in door of your home, and a car pulls in door of your home, and a car pulls in automatically because it it's been, you automatically because it it's been, you automatically because it it's been, you know, your AI's enabled that and you get know, your AI's enabled that and you get know, your AI's enabled that and you get into the car and because your AI knows into the car and because your AI knows into the car and because your AI knows your sleep score from last night, it your sleep score from last night, it your sleep score from last night, it knows you didn't get enough sleep. So it knows you didn't get enough sleep. So it knows you didn't get enough sleep. So it pulls up a car with a lie down bed in it pulls up a car with a lie down bed in it pulls up a car with a lie down bed in it and the world becomes, you know, and the world becomes, you know, and the world becomes, you know, automatic and magical for you. automatic and magical for you. automatic and magical for you. >> This scenario you just described, I'm >> This scenario you just described, I'm >> This scenario you just described, I'm gonna interrupt you there. gonna interrupt you there. gonna interrupt you there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When >> When >> When >> is that 10 years from now or is that 5 >> is that 10 years from now or is that 5 >> is that 10 years from now or is that 5 years? years? years? >> No, no, no. Within within 3 to 5 years, >> No, no, no. Within within 3 to 5 years, >> No, no, no. Within within 3 to 5 years, um, we're going to see these, you know, um, we're going to see these, you know, um, we're going to see these, you know, the ambient AI. the ambient AI. the ambient AI. >> Yeah. Uh, and you're going to give >> Yeah. Uh, and you're going to give >> Yeah. Uh, and you're going to give access to your AI to listen to your access to your AI to listen to your access to your AI to listen to your conversations, look at the cameras in conversations, look at the cameras in conversations, look at the cameras in your home, um, understand, you know, the your home, um, understand, you know, the your home, um, understand, you know, the sensors on your body and so forth. sensors on your body and so forth. sensors on your body and so forth. Because when you do that, it's able to Because when you do that, it's able to Because when you do that, it's able to support you in so many different ways. support you in so many different ways. support you in so many different ways. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Um, that again, it's it's anticipating >> Um, that again, it's it's anticipating >> Um, that again, it's it's anticipating your needs and providing for you in a your needs and providing for you in a your needs and providing for you in a magical fashion. magical fashion. magical fashion. >> That's the most amazing thing. By the >> That's the most amazing thing. By the >> That's the most amazing thing. By the way, my audience is always when we're way, my audience is always when we're way, my audience is always when we're doing shows, I'll get messages saying doing shows, I'll get messages saying doing shows, I'll get messages saying that they, you know, Ed, what did you that they, you know, Ed, what did you that they, you know, Ed, what did you think? You know, jump in. I just have to think? You know, jump in. I just have to think? You know, jump in. I just have to tell you all there's so many things that tell you all there's so many things that tell you all there's so many things that I've reached similar conclusions on I've reached similar conclusions on I've reached similar conclusions on through all of the shows that we've done through all of the shows that we've done through all of the shows that we've done on this topic and all the reading. And on this topic and all the reading. And on this topic and all the reading. And one of them that I am most excited about one of them that I am most excited about one of them that I am most excited about is the idea of high high quality, the is the idea of high high quality, the is the idea of high high quality, the best we've ever had in the history of best we've ever had in the history of best we've ever had in the history of the world, health care at a fraction of the world, health care at a fraction of the world, health care at a fraction of the cost because of tele medicine, the cost because of tele medicine, the cost because of tele medicine, because of what AI can do, because because of what AI can do, because because of what AI can do, because there's no bias in the physician, there's no bias in the physician, there's no bias in the physician, there's no fatigue in the physician. And there's no fatigue in the physician. And there's no fatigue in the physician. And that access and regularity is going to that access and regularity is going to that access and regularity is going to reduce the barrier of entry so reduce the barrier of entry so reduce the barrier of entry so dramatically that just that alone is dramatically that just that alone is dramatically that just that alone is going to extend the quality of life. going to extend the quality of life. going to extend the quality of life. Never mind the innovation of the Never mind the innovation of the Never mind the innovation of the technology through AI and the altering technology through AI and the altering technology through AI and the altering of genetics and all these other things of genetics and all these other things of genetics and all these other things that on that's a whole other topic. Just that on that's a whole other topic. Just that on that's a whole other topic. Just great health care for everybody at a great health care for everybody at a great health care for everybody at a reduced price. It's going to be unbel reduced price. It's going to be unbel reduced price. It's going to be unbel that alone will extend life. that alone will extend life. that alone will extend life. >> Yeah. 100%. You know, God bless my mom. >> Yeah. 100%. You know, God bless my mom. >> Yeah. 100%. You know, God bless my mom. we mentioned at the beginning of this we mentioned at the beginning of this we mentioned at the beginning of this podcast, she just turned 90 and saying, podcast, she just turned 90 and saying, podcast, she just turned 90 and saying, "Hey, you know, so shout out to Tula, my "Hey, you know, so shout out to Tula, my "Hey, you know, so shout out to Tula, my mom." Uh, so, you know, it's like, you mom." Uh, so, you know, it's like, you mom." Uh, so, you know, it's like, you know, mom, please take advantage of know, mom, please take advantage of know, mom, please take advantage of these technologies and everybody should. these technologies and everybody should. these technologies and everybody should. So, I know I'm not the only one who So, I know I'm not the only one who So, I know I'm not the only one who hates long holds when needing to call hates long holds when needing to call hates long holds when needing to call customer service. It drives me nuts. I'm customer service. It drives me nuts. I'm customer service. It drives me nuts. I'm sure it does you as well. But here's sure it does you as well. But here's sure it does you as well. But here's something nobody talks about, though. something nobody talks about, though. something nobody talks about, though. The person on the other end, they hate The person on the other end, they hate The person on the other end, they hate it just as much. [laughter] it just as much. 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One of my one of my dear friends, one of the top thinkers dear friends, one of the top thinkers dear friends, one of the top thinkers out of Harvard Medical School, uh by the out of Harvard Medical School, uh by the out of Harvard Medical School, uh by the name of David Sinclair, I've name of David Sinclair, I've name of David Sinclair, I've >> David. >> David. >> David. >> Yeah, I've I've had the chance to help >> Yeah, I've I've had the chance to help >> Yeah, I've I've had the chance to help fund his research fund his research fund his research >> to a significant amount and invest in >> to a significant amount and invest in >> to a significant amount and invest in his companies. and he is in human trials his companies. and he is in human trials his companies. and he is in human trials right now for what's called epigenetic right now for what's called epigenetic right now for what's called epigenetic reprogramming which is the the leading reprogramming which is the the leading reprogramming which is the the leading technology for reversing aging technology for reversing aging technology for reversing aging >> and uh you know Dario Amade who's the >> and uh you know Dario Amade who's the >> and uh you know Dario Amade who's the CEO of anthropic uh CEO of anthropic uh CEO of anthropic uh >> arguably the most advanced AI system out >> arguably the most advanced AI system out >> arguably the most advanced AI system out there today that they produce Claude you there today that they produce Claude you there today that they produce Claude you know he went on the record saying that know he went on the record saying that know he went on the record saying that he believes that AI will have the he believes that AI will have the he believes that AI will have the potential if it continues as it's been potential if it continues as it's been potential if it continues as it's been going to double the human lifespan in going to double the human lifespan in going to double the human lifespan in the next 5 to 10 years. I mean, that the next 5 to 10 years. I mean, that the next 5 to 10 years. I mean, that should blow people's minds. You know, should blow people's minds. You know, should blow people's minds. You know, Demis, the CEO of Deep Mind, part of Demis, the CEO of Deep Mind, part of Demis, the CEO of Deep Mind, part of Google's ecosystem, Google's ecosystem, Google's ecosystem, >> has said he believes that we're going to >> has said he believes that we're going to >> has said he believes that we're going to cure all disease within the next 10 cure all disease within the next 10 cure all disease within the next 10 years. Cancer, heart disease, years. Cancer, heart disease, years. Cancer, heart disease, inflammatory disease, autoimmune inflammatory disease, autoimmune inflammatory disease, autoimmune disease. And so, this this incredible disease. And so, this this incredible disease. And so, this this incredible future of health is coming. and the cost future of health is coming. and the cost future of health is coming. and the cost of these things. And people say, "Well, of these things. And people say, "Well, of these things. And people say, "Well, it's only for the wealthy." No, the the it's only for the wealthy." No, the the it's only for the wealthy." No, the the people working on this are focused on uh people working on this are focused on uh people working on this are focused on uh making it affordable to everybody. You making it affordable to everybody. You making it affordable to everybody. You know, another X-P prize, Ed, if I could know, another X-P prize, Ed, if I could know, another X-P prize, Ed, if I could uh I launched four years ago, I raised uh I launched four years ago, I raised uh I launched four years ago, I raised $157 million for something called the $157 million for something called the $157 million for something called the Healthspan X-P prize. And you go to Healthspan X-P prize. And you go to Healthspan X-P prize. And you go to x-priseze.org and learn about it. And x-priseze.org and learn about it. And x-priseze.org and learn about it. And it's a competition asking it's a competition asking it's a competition asking [clears throat] teams to deliver a [clears throat] teams to deliver a [clears throat] teams to deliver a therapy in humans that can reverse the therapy in humans that can reverse the therapy in humans that can reverse the losses due to aging in cognition, losses due to aging in cognition, losses due to aging in cognition, immune, and muscle. immune, and muscle. immune, and muscle. >> So that um after a therapy that should >> So that um after a therapy that should >> So that um after a therapy that should be less than a year, you now have the be less than a year, you now have the be less than a year, you now have the cognitive abilities you had 20 years cognitive abilities you had 20 years cognitive abilities you had 20 years ago, the muscle building abilities you ago, the muscle building abilities you ago, the muscle building abilities you had 20 years ago, the immune function had 20 years ago, the immune function had 20 years ago, the immune function you had 20 years ago. We have 830 teams you had 20 years ago. We have 830 teams you had 20 years ago. We have 830 teams competing for this competing for this competing for this >> and we expect a winner by 2029 2030. >> and we expect a winner by 2029 2030. >> and we expect a winner by 2029 2030. This is all happening now. Um, and I This is all happening now. Um, and I This is all happening now. Um, and I want people to get excited about the want people to get excited about the want people to get excited about the future. future. future. >> Every time I talk with you, but >> Every time I talk with you, but >> Every time I talk with you, but especially today, I am excited. I'm especially today, I am excited. I'm especially today, I am excited. I'm actually sort of bouncing in the chair. actually sort of bouncing in the chair. actually sort of bouncing in the chair. You know, I want to take a little side You know, I want to take a little side You know, I want to take a little side road. This is such a bizarre side road I road. This is such a bizarre side road I road. This is such a bizarre side road I want to take, but it's how my bizarre want to take, but it's how my bizarre want to take, but it's how my bizarre brain works. And this is for my folks brain works. And this is for my folks brain works. And this is for my folks that are in past say 45 maybe. Actually, that are in past say 45 maybe. Actually, that are in past say 45 maybe. Actually, even you young folks that are listening, even you young folks that are listening, even you young folks that are listening, there is another impact if you do double there is another impact if you do double there is another impact if you do double lifespan or if you do extend it by 30 or lifespan or if you do extend it by 30 or lifespan or if you do extend it by 30 or 40 years. And let me say to you what it 40 years. And let me say to you what it 40 years. And let me say to you what it is because I sort of look at this all is because I sort of look at this all is because I sort of look at this all the time. And I bet you haven't been the time. And I bet you haven't been the time. And I bet you haven't been asked this one. You're going to need asked this one. You're going to need asked this one. You're going to need more money to retire. more money to retire. more money to retire. You know, there's been this sort of You know, there's been this sort of You know, there's been this sort of social contract that you said that's social contract that you said that's social contract that you said that's been broken with the college kids. I My been broken with the college kids. I My been broken with the college kids. I My daughter graduated from Clemson two daughter graduated from Clemson two daughter graduated from Clemson two weeks ago and I was at the graduation weeks ago and I was at the graduation weeks ago and I was at the graduation thinking this is and I mean with all due thinking this is and I mean with all due thinking this is and I mean with all due respect, it's a great college and respect, it's a great college and respect, it's a great college and school's great, but this is an archaic school's great, but this is an archaic school's great, but this is an archaic concept. We're sending these several concept. We're sending these several concept. We're sending these several thousand kids out into the world thousand kids out into the world thousand kids out into the world >> and most of them have debt and my gosh, >> and most of them have debt and my gosh, >> and most of them have debt and my gosh, there aren't any jobs for them right there aren't any jobs for them right there aren't any jobs for them right now. Having said all that, the flip side now. Having said all that, the flip side now. Having said all that, the flip side of it is, you know, you used to retire of it is, you know, you used to retire of it is, you know, you used to retire at 62 and you were gone at 68. Now, you at 62 and you were gone at 68. Now, you at 62 and you were gone at 68. Now, you know, one thing everyone needs to be know, one thing everyone needs to be know, one thing everyone needs to be aware of, you're going to need more aware of, you're going to need more aware of, you're going to need more money to have your life. Have you ever money to have your life. Have you ever money to have your life. Have you ever thought about that? I mean, if someone's thought about that? I mean, if someone's thought about that? I mean, if someone's going to live to 120 or 130, going to live to 120 or 130, going to live to 120 or 130, >> that's not the same as having 10 years >> that's not the same as having 10 years >> that's not the same as having 10 years worth of retirement money saved. I I worth of retirement money saved. I I worth of retirement money saved. I I just thought of it on the side road when just thought of it on the side road when just thought of it on the side road when we were talking. I you're absolutely we were talking. I you're absolutely we were talking. I you're absolutely right. So, when I'm on stages with right. So, when I'm on stages with right. So, when I'm on stages with financial adviserss, yeah, financial adviserss, yeah, financial adviserss, yeah, >> I'm saying, what are you advising your >> I'm saying, what are you advising your >> I'm saying, what are you advising your clients for? You know, if you're saying, clients for? You know, if you're saying, clients for? You know, if you're saying, hey, save enough money to get to 80, hey, save enough money to get to 80, hey, save enough money to get to 80, right? right? right? >> Uh, and you get there and all of a >> Uh, and you get there and all of a >> Uh, and you get there and all of a sudden, uh, uhoh, sudden, uh, uhoh, sudden, uh, uhoh, more I've got more runway. So, here's more I've got more runway. So, here's more I've got more runway. So, here's interesting question. Why do people interesting question. Why do people interesting question. Why do people retire? Right? People retire for one of retire? Right? People retire for one of retire? Right? People retire for one of three reasons. either one, legally, uh, three reasons. either one, legally, uh, three reasons. either one, legally, uh, their industry, their company forces their industry, their company forces their industry, their company forces them to retire, or two, they're in pain. them to retire, or two, they're in pain. them to retire, or two, they're in pain. All right, there's nothing worse than All right, there's nothing worse than All right, there's nothing worse than that. It's like, I'm in pain every day. that. It's like, I'm in pain every day. that. It's like, I'm in pain every day. I just can't do this anymore. Or you're I just can't do this anymore. Or you're I just can't do this anymore. Or you're exhausted. You're out of energy. exhausted. You're out of energy. exhausted. You're out of energy. >> But imagine that at age 60, 65, 70, >> But imagine that at age 60, 65, 70, >> But imagine that at age 60, 65, 70, you've got the energy and the vitality you've got the energy and the vitality you've got the energy and the vitality of what you had when you were 40. M of what you had when you were 40. M of what you had when you were 40. M >> um you're at the top of your game. >> um you're at the top of your game. >> um you're at the top of your game. Do you really still want to retire or do Do you really still want to retire or do Do you really still want to retire or do you want to like go build the next you want to like go build the next you want to like go build the next thing? thing? thing? >> So I I think ret the idea I think of >> So I I think ret the idea I think of >> So I I think ret the idea I think of retirement as a four-letter word retirement as a four-letter word retirement as a four-letter word personally because you know if you if personally because you know if you if personally because you know if you if you Google the correlation between you Google the correlation between you Google the correlation between retirement and death, it's really high. retirement and death, it's really high. retirement and death, it's really high. You know, a lot of people who retire You know, a lot of people who retire You know, a lot of people who retire lose their purpose in life. lose their purpose in life. lose their purpose in life. >> You're right. >> You're right. >> You're right. >> Uh and you need to re regain that >> Uh and you need to re regain that >> Uh and you need to re regain that purpose. purpose. purpose. >> I was just literally thinking, you know >> I was just literally thinking, you know >> I was just literally thinking, you know what you got to do? You got to re audit what you got to do? You got to re audit what you got to do? You got to re audit your purpose because this idea that you your purpose because this idea that you your purpose because this idea that you know that you can use AI to create a know that you can use AI to create a know that you can use AI to create a brand new purpose in your life and brand new purpose in your life and brand new purpose in your life and pursue it. I got a question for you pursue it. I got a question for you pursue it. I got a question for you about that. Do you think I think I know about that. Do you think I think I know about that. Do you think I think I know what you think but do you think we'll what you think but do you think we'll what you think but do you think we'll have the first well they say we already have the first well they say we already have the first well they say we already have one but you know someone who built have one but you know someone who built have one but you know someone who built a business with just them using AI a business with just them using AI a business with just them using AI become a billionaire in the next 5 become a billionaire in the next 5 become a billionaire in the next 5 years? years? years? >> 100%. So uh the data I just I just >> 100%. So uh the data I just I just >> 100%. So uh the data I just I just pulled this up pulled this up pulled this up >> for uh my pod I'm doing on Thursday. If >> for uh my pod I'm doing on Thursday. If >> for uh my pod I'm doing on Thursday. If you look at soloreneurs you look at soloreneurs you look at soloreneurs right indivi just single individuals right indivi just single individuals right indivi just single individuals >> right >> right >> right >> uh building companies that number has >> uh building companies that number has >> uh building companies that number has doubled in the past year. So the ability doubled in the past year. So the ability doubled in the past year. So the ability to actually uh you know say ah this is to actually uh you know say ah this is to actually uh you know say ah this is something I care about this is an something I care about this is an something I care about this is an opportunity I want to create and then opportunity I want to create and then opportunity I want to create and then being able to partner with AI to go and being able to partner with AI to go and being able to partner with AI to go and build that business build that business build that business >> uh on your own. I mean an AI can spin up >> uh on your own. I mean an AI can spin up >> uh on your own. I mean an AI can spin up a website for you spin up an app create a website for you spin up an app create a website for you spin up an app create a marketing program. So, you know, five, a marketing program. So, you know, five, a marketing program. So, you know, five, even five years ago, uh if you need to even five years ago, uh if you need to even five years ago, uh if you need to start a business, you need to go get a start a business, you need to go get a start a business, you need to go get a lawyer, get a get a business license, lawyer, get a get a business license, lawyer, get a get a business license, get a financial advisor, go and get a get a financial advisor, go and get a get a financial advisor, go and get a web person, go and get advertising, web person, go and get advertising, web person, go and get advertising, >> salespeople, bookers, all of that. Yep. >> salespeople, bookers, all of that. Yep. >> salespeople, bookers, all of that. Yep. Closers, Closers, Closers, >> all these things. And today, you don't >> all these things. And today, you don't >> all these things. And today, you don't need any of those. Y need any of those. Y need any of those. Y >> um >> um >> um >> it's and so your your cost of entry has >> it's and so your your cost of entry has >> it's and so your your cost of entry has plummeted by 100x plummeted by 100x plummeted by 100x >> and and most people um don't know that >> and and most people um don't know that >> and and most people um don't know that because they haven't played. They because they haven't played. They because they haven't played. They haven't tried. Again, this is the haven't tried. Again, this is the haven't tried. Again, this is the purpose mindset and the curiosity purpose mindset and the curiosity purpose mindset and the curiosity mindset working together to go and just mindset working together to go and just mindset working together to go and just try doing stuff. try doing stuff. try doing stuff. >> Um be willing to iterate [clears throat] >> Um be willing to iterate [clears throat] >> Um be willing to iterate [clears throat] and fail. Take agency. be driven by and fail. Take agency. be driven by and fail. Take agency. be driven by something in your heart and your soul. something in your heart and your soul. something in your heart and your soul. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> you know, that's one thing I've learned >> you know, that's one thing I've learned >> you know, that's one thing I've learned from you, not to interrupt you, but I from you, not to interrupt you, but I from you, not to interrupt you, but I after I thought about your mom this after I thought about your mom this after I thought about your mom this morning, I was thinking about you and morning, I was thinking about you and morning, I was thinking about you and things I admire. Obviously, I think you things I admire. Obviously, I think you things I admire. Obviously, I think you were given a god-given IQ that's higher were given a god-given IQ that's higher were given a god-given IQ that's higher than most. But the act and there's other than most. But the act and there's other than most. But the act and there's other things about you, just an optimistic things about you, just an optimistic things about you, just an optimistic person. You bring great energy. You person. You bring great energy. You person. You bring great energy. You elevate other people. There's just elevate other people. There's just elevate other people. There's just things about you that are just very things about you that are just very things about you that are just very special. But one of them, Peter, is special. But one of them, Peter, is special. But one of them, Peter, is >> and I just talk about just for a second. >> and I just talk about just for a second. >> and I just talk about just for a second. When I think of you, I think of maybe When I think of you, I think of maybe When I think of you, I think of maybe the most curious person I know. In fact, the most curious person I know. In fact, the most curious person I know. In fact, most of my close friends, if you were to most of my close friends, if you were to most of my close friends, if you were to ask me, what is it? They either are ask me, what is it? They either are ask me, what is it? They either are unbelievably entertaining and make me unbelievably entertaining and make me unbelievably entertaining and make me laugh or they're incredibly curious laugh or they're incredibly curious laugh or they're incredibly curious people about life. people about life. people about life. >> Would you say that's true of you? And >> Would you say that's true of you? And >> Would you say that's true of you? And how important is that for all of us to how important is that for all of us to how important is that for all of us to tap into our curiosity about life and tap into our curiosity about life and tap into our curiosity about life and where it's going and why we're here and where it's going and why we're here and where it's going and why we're here and all that stuff? all that stuff? all that stuff? >> Yeah, I mean 100%. It's like you can >> Yeah, I mean 100%. It's like you can >> Yeah, I mean 100%. It's like you can know anything today, know anything today, know anything today, >> right? So it's like ra if you if you're >> right? So it's like ra if you if you're >> right? So it's like ra if you if you're listening to this podcast or listen or listening to this podcast or listen or listening to this podcast or listen or reading an article and you have a reading an article and you have a reading an article and you have a question about something just it sparks question about something just it sparks question about something just it sparks that moment of of you can stop get onto that moment of of you can stop get onto that moment of of you can stop get onto your favorite LLM whether it's Gemini or your favorite LLM whether it's Gemini or your favorite LLM whether it's Gemini or Claude or or Chad GPT and start to say Claude or or Chad GPT and start to say Claude or or Chad GPT and start to say hey I just heard about this thing called hey I just heard about this thing called hey I just heard about this thing called quantum quantum physics or quantum quantum quantum physics or quantum quantum quantum physics or quantum computing or whatever and just and say computing or whatever and just and say computing or whatever and just and say what does that mean or like can you what does that mean or like can you what does that mean or like can you explain that to me like I'm explain that to me like I'm explain that to me like I'm like no I don't what what did what does like no I don't what what did what does like no I don't what what did what does that term mean and just go down the that term mean and just go down the that term mean and just go down the rabbit hole of curiosity you have you rabbit hole of curiosity you have you rabbit hole of curiosity you have you have the most infinitely patient teacher have the most infinitely patient teacher have the most infinitely patient teacher >> to follow your curiosity you just have >> to follow your curiosity you just have >> to follow your curiosity you just have to be willing to ask to be willing to ask to be willing to ask >> so true >> so true >> so true >> yeah magical right it's abs and by the >> yeah magical right it's abs and by the >> yeah magical right it's abs and by the way I got to tell you all this is Peter way I got to tell you all this is Peter way I got to tell you all this is Peter is a guy who's on the cutting edge of is a guy who's on the cutting edge of is a guy who's on the cutting edge of everything I'm really not other than the everything I'm really not other than the everything I'm really not other than the fact that I do the show and it I I have fact that I do the show and it I I have fact that I do the show and it I I have really thrown myself into being curious really thrown myself into being curious really thrown myself into being curious about what the world's going to look about what the world's going to look about what the world's going to look like how I stay relevant in it. And I like how I stay relevant in it. And I like how I stay relevant in it. And I have to tell you something, you guys. have to tell you something, you guys. have to tell you something, you guys. I've learned so much the last two years. I've learned so much the last two years. I've learned so much the last two years. The last eight months has been The last eight months has been The last eight months has been fascinating. The acceleration fascinating. The acceleration fascinating. The acceleration of my learning because of the of my learning because of the of my learning because of the acceleration of the technology itself. acceleration of the technology itself. acceleration of the technology itself. >> And frankly, I was a little late >> And frankly, I was a little late >> And frankly, I was a little late business-wise, and that's what I wanted business-wise, and that's what I wanted business-wise, and that's what I wanted to ask you about. Someone here already to ask you about. Someone here already to ask you about. Someone here already owns a business of any type, or they're owns a business of any type, or they're owns a business of any type, or they're the number two or number one at a the number two or number one at a the number two or number one at a company where they're running it for company where they're running it for company where they're running it for somebody. as a broad concept, what's the somebody. as a broad concept, what's the somebody. as a broad concept, what's the number one mistake number one mistake number one mistake you think business owners or business you think business owners or business you think business owners or business people are making right now as it people are making right now as it people are making right now as it relates to AI? And what's the number one relates to AI? And what's the number one relates to AI? And what's the number one thing they should do to make a shift in thing they should do to make a shift in thing they should do to make a shift in direction? direction? direction? >> So, the number one mistake that people >> So, the number one mistake that people >> So, the number one mistake that people make is not willing to try. make is not willing to try. make is not willing to try. >> Yeah. there's this there's this like gap >> Yeah. there's this there's this like gap >> Yeah. there's this there's this like gap between like the zero to one step of of between like the zero to one step of of between like the zero to one step of of well it's not for me you know or my well it's not for me you know or my well it's not for me you know or my business is good enough it's working business is good enough it's working business is good enough it's working well I'm happy with 10% growth well I'm happy with 10% growth well I'm happy with 10% growth >> and the reality is that no company is >> and the reality is that no company is >> and the reality is that no company is going to exist in the next 5 years I going to exist in the next 5 years I going to exist in the next 5 years I don't care if you're a laundromat you're don't care if you're a laundromat you're don't care if you're a laundromat you're a barberh shop you're you know you know a barberh shop you're you know you know a barberh shop you're you know you know a phabotamist uh no no company is going a phabotamist uh no no company is going a phabotamist uh no no company is going to exist that doesn't have an AI to exist that doesn't have an AI to exist that doesn't have an AI enablement of it enablement of it enablement of it >> and you have to start and start small >> and you have to start and start small >> and you have to start and start small and then the part of that mistake is and then the part of that mistake is and then the part of that mistake is well I can't do it. Uh you that is a well I can't do it. Uh you that is a well I can't do it. Uh you that is a mindset issue. mindset issue. mindset issue. >> It's true. >> It's true. >> It's true. >> Um that is a mindset that of a limiting >> Um that is a mindset that of a limiting >> Um that is a mindset that of a limiting self-belief that you can't do it. self-belief that you can't do it. self-belief that you can't do it. >> And the fact of the matter is that you >> And the fact of the matter is that you >> And the fact of the matter is that you can. can. can. >> You just haven't tried yet. Mhm. >> You just haven't tried yet. Mhm. >> You just haven't tried yet. Mhm. >> And so [clears throat] it's just like >> And so [clears throat] it's just like >> And so [clears throat] it's just like it's like jumping in and just taking it's like jumping in and just taking it's like jumping in and just taking that first step. So anybody you know that first step. So anybody you know that first step. So anybody you know listening right now, you go into one of listening right now, you go into one of listening right now, you go into one of those models and describe your business. those models and describe your business. those models and describe your business. These are my customers. This is our These are my customers. This is our These are my customers. This is our revenue. This is what we provide. Here's revenue. This is what we provide. Here's revenue. This is what we provide. Here's my website. Here's my product. Here's my my website. Here's my product. Here's my my website. Here's my product. Here's my service. And and ask how could I 10x service. And and ask how could I 10x service. And and ask how could I 10x what I'm doing? what I'm doing? what I'm doing? um if you know if Elon Musk or Steve um if you know if Elon Musk or Steve um if you know if Elon Musk or Steve Jobs was going to was going to help uh Jobs was going to was going to help uh Jobs was going to was going to help uh uh advise me, what would they tell me to uh advise me, what would they tell me to uh advise me, what would they tell me to do? It's interesting, right? So, a lot do? It's interesting, right? So, a lot do? It's interesting, right? So, a lot of individuals you we're all limited by of individuals you we're all limited by of individuals you we're all limited by who's on our team, right? And we who's on our team, right? And we who's on our team, right? And we typically we have our own thoughts and typically we have our own thoughts and typically we have our own thoughts and we go to our team and ask them their we go to our team and ask them their we go to our team and ask them their thoughts. But we're all limited in our thoughts. But we're all limited in our thoughts. But we're all limited in our own knowledge. We're limited by our own knowledge. We're limited by our own knowledge. We're limited by our team's knowledge. But AI can broaden team's knowledge. But AI can broaden team's knowledge. But AI can broaden that a billionfold that a billionfold that a billionfold >> and you can start to ask questions like >> and you can start to ask questions like >> and you can start to ask questions like you know uh how can I end you know what you know uh how can I end you know what you know uh how can I end you know what market should I enter next what are the market should I enter next what are the market should I enter next what are the options and how would I enter it and uh options and how would I enter it and uh options and how would I enter it and uh how would I you know how could I disrupt how would I you know how could I disrupt how would I you know how could I disrupt myself start to ask questions right you myself start to ask questions right you myself start to ask questions right you know you know the I when my kids go to know you know the I when my kids go to know you know the I when my kids go to school in the morning I say ask great school in the morning I say ask great school in the morning I say ask great questions today I say that to the CEOs questions today I say that to the CEOs questions today I say that to the CEOs the quality of your life the quality of the quality of your life the quality of the quality of your life the quality of your business is is basically the your business is is basically the your business is is basically the questions that you ask. The quality of questions that you ask. The quality of questions that you ask. The quality of the questions you ask. the questions you ask. the questions you ask. >> So ask great questions. Ask questions >> So ask great questions. Ask questions >> So ask great questions. Ask questions that you never thought could be answered that you never thought could be answered that you never thought could be answered because they can be. because they can be. because they can be. >> This is so good. All right, I want to >> This is so good. All right, I want to >> This is so good. All right, I want to talk. We're going to run out of time talk. We're going to run out of time talk. We're going to run out of time like I always do with you. But by the like I always do with you. But by the like I always do with you. But by the way, we cover so much ground in short way, we cover so much ground in short way, we cover so much ground in short windows with you. I love that. I'm windows with you. I love that. I'm windows with you. I love that. I'm thinking through some of the fears and thinking through some of the fears and thinking through some of the fears and objections that I get from people when I objections that I get from people when I objections that I get from people when I when we talk about the future. when we talk about the future. when we talk about the future. Obviously, one of them is we've touched Obviously, one of them is we've touched Obviously, one of them is we've touched on job lines. No, there's going to be no on job lines. No, there's going to be no on job lines. No, there's going to be no jobs, you know, or guaranteed minimum jobs, you know, or guaranteed minimum jobs, you know, or guaranteed minimum high income. That that sounds better high income. That that sounds better high income. That that sounds better than guaranteed minimum income. I like than guaranteed minimum income. I like than guaranteed minimum income. I like that better. But one of the other ones that better. But one of the other ones that better. But one of the other ones is you said earlier, the robot's going is you said earlier, the robot's going is you said earlier, the robot's going to be listening to all of your to be listening to all of your to be listening to all of your conversations. You know where I'm going. conversations. You know where I'm going. conversations. You know where I'm going. The robot's going to know this about The robot's going to know this about The robot's going to know this about you. You're And that is, do we need to you. You're And that is, do we need to you. You're And that is, do we need to change how we view privacy going forward change how we view privacy going forward change how we view privacy going forward in the world? because that is that is in the world? because that is that is in the world? because that is that is something that something that something that >> I think it's it it it's a growing >> I think it's it it it's a growing >> I think it's it it it's a growing concern, but it's really going to become concern, but it's really going to become concern, but it's really going to become one of the primary objections as more of one of the primary objections as more of one of the primary objections as more of this listening and getting to know us this listening and getting to know us this listening and getting to know us begins to happen from from medical to begins to happen from from medical to begins to happen from from medical to lifestyle overall privacy. lifestyle overall privacy. lifestyle overall privacy. >> So, first of all, uh I know that >> So, first of all, uh I know that >> So, first of all, uh I know that everybody desires privacy. I desire everybody desires privacy. I desire everybody desires privacy. I desire privacy. Everybody does, privacy. Everybody does, privacy. Everybody does, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> The question is, do you actually believe >> The question is, do you actually believe >> The question is, do you actually believe we have privacy? Uh, and I would say to we have privacy? Uh, and I would say to we have privacy? Uh, and I would say to you that we actually don't um, you know, you that we actually don't um, you know, you that we actually don't um, you know, I was interesting. My my wife wants to I was interesting. My my wife wants to I was interesting. My my wife wants to get me a watch. I just turned 65. My get me a watch. I just turned 65. My get me a watch. I just turned 65. My wife she wants me a watch for for my wife she wants me a watch for for my wife she wants me a watch for for my birthday and um, we're talking about it birthday and um, we're talking about it birthday and um, we're talking about it and then all of a sudden I am getting and then all of a sudden I am getting and then all of a sudden I am getting watch ad after ad after ad on my Google watch ad after ad after ad on my Google watch ad after ad after ad on my Google newsfeed. Right? So the reality is um newsfeed. Right? So the reality is um newsfeed. Right? So the reality is um every all everything we do uh is out in every all everything we do uh is out in every all everything we do uh is out in the ecosystem. You know um I can shake the ecosystem. You know um I can shake the ecosystem. You know um I can shake your hand, your hand, your hand, scrape a couple of skin cells off of scrape a couple of skin cells off of scrape a couple of skin cells off of you, sequence you and know everything you, sequence you and know everything you, sequence you and know everything about your health, right? An AI can read about your health, right? An AI can read about your health, right? An AI can read your lips from 100 meters your lips from 100 meters your lips from 100 meters [clears throat] away. We are constantly [clears throat] away. We are constantly [clears throat] away. We are constantly dribbling data all the time. It doesn't dribbling data all the time. It doesn't dribbling data all the time. It doesn't mean I I don't want to behave as if I mean I I don't want to behave as if I mean I I don't want to behave as if I have privacy. I do. But privacy is I have privacy. I do. But privacy is I have privacy. I do. But privacy is I think an old concept. Um you in fact think an old concept. Um you in fact think an old concept. Um you in fact privacy is it a thousand years ago the privacy is it a thousand years ago the privacy is it a thousand years ago the idea of privacy was you know people idea of privacy was you know people idea of privacy was you know people didn't have privacy. They were you know didn't have privacy. They were you know didn't have privacy. They were you know it's a recent construct of of of some it's a recent construct of of of some it's a recent construct of of of some >> and and we are dribbling data all the >> and and we are dribbling data all the >> and and we are dribbling data all the time. time. time. I do believe and I I wrote a Substack I do believe and I I wrote a Substack I do believe and I I wrote a Substack about that as well that there is so much about that as well that there is so much about that as well that there is so much advantage you're going to get by advantage you're going to get by advantage you're going to get by enabling your AI to know everything enabling your AI to know everything enabling your AI to know everything about you. Right? So today, uh my AI is about you. Right? So today, uh my AI is about you. Right? So today, uh my AI is called Skippy. Um I named it after an an called Skippy. Um I named it after an an called Skippy. Um I named it after an an science fiction character, uh AI named science fiction character, uh AI named science fiction character, uh AI named Skippy. Uh, and I give Skippy access to Skippy. Uh, and I give Skippy access to Skippy. Uh, and I give Skippy access to everything. My uh my iMes, my WhatsApp everything. My uh my iMes, my WhatsApp everything. My uh my iMes, my WhatsApp messages, my email, you know, this messages, my email, you know, this messages, my email, you know, this conversation uh being recorded by conversation uh being recorded by conversation uh being recorded by Granola right now will go to Skippy. So, Granola right now will go to Skippy. So, Granola right now will go to Skippy. So, it understand it knows everything about it understand it knows everything about it understand it knows everything about me me me >> and in so doing it is able to answer >> and in so doing it is able to answer >> and in so doing it is able to answer questions and do things for me because questions and do things for me because questions and do things for me because of that level of integration. Again, of that level of integration. Again, of that level of integration. Again, that example I gave of that car pulling that example I gave of that car pulling that example I gave of that car pulling up in your front door because it knows up in your front door because it knows up in your front door because it knows your schedule, knows you're walking your schedule, knows you're walking your schedule, knows you're walking towards the door, knows you didn't sleep towards the door, knows you didn't sleep towards the door, knows you didn't sleep well. Um, well. Um, well. Um, >> the value to our lives, it's like having >> the value to our lives, it's like having >> the value to our lives, it's like having the most extraordinary executive the most extraordinary executive the most extraordinary executive assistant, personal assistant, always assistant, personal assistant, always assistant, personal assistant, always knowing what you want. M um and the knowing what you want. M um and the knowing what you want. M um and the trade is going to be so highly in favor trade is going to be so highly in favor trade is going to be so highly in favor of enabling your AI to support uh you of enabling your AI to support uh you of enabling your AI to support uh you know provide uh a structure and harness know provide uh a structure and harness know provide uh a structure and harness around your life that the that you're around your life that the that you're around your life that the that you're going to willingly do that going to willingly do that going to willingly do that >> people are going to hold back. I get it. >> people are going to hold back. I get it. >> people are going to hold back. I get it. But uh this is coming. Uh I'll give you But uh this is coming. Uh I'll give you But uh this is coming. Uh I'll give you some other examples. Right? We're on the some other examples. Right? We're on the some other examples. Right? We're on the verge of uh of getting these AR and VR verge of uh of getting these AR and VR verge of uh of getting these AR and VR glasses. We just saw Google announce uh glasses. We just saw Google announce uh glasses. We just saw Google announce uh uh a partnership with Samsung and Warby uh a partnership with Samsung and Warby uh a partnership with Samsung and Warby Parker for glasses have cameras on them. Parker for glasses have cameras on them. Parker for glasses have cameras on them. Um uh Meta has done the same. Uh we're Um uh Meta has done the same. Uh we're Um uh Meta has done the same. Uh we're going to have a version of this from going to have a version of this from going to have a version of this from OpenAI. They're going to be rather than OpenAI. They're going to be rather than OpenAI. They're going to be rather than just the phone, we're going to have some just the phone, we're going to have some just the phone, we're going to have some version of wearable uh imaging and version of wearable uh imaging and version of wearable uh imaging and audible pickups all the time. And your audible pickups all the time. And your audible pickups all the time. And your AI will know that I'm looking at your AI will know that I'm looking at your AI will know that I'm looking at your blue shirt and I've looked at it a few blue shirt and I've looked at it a few blue shirt and I've looked at it a few times. It knows where I'm looking and it times. It knows where I'm looking and it times. It knows where I'm looking and it may it knows that uh that you know I may it knows that uh that you know I may it knows that uh that you know I need some new shirts because it's seen need some new shirts because it's seen need some new shirts because it's seen what's in my closet. what's in my closet. what's in my closet. >> And and it might say, "Hey, you know >> And and it might say, "Hey, you know >> And and it might say, "Hey, you know that shirt that that Ed was wearing is that shirt that that Ed was wearing is that shirt that that Ed was wearing is beautiful. Uh would you like one of beautiful. Uh would you like one of beautiful. Uh would you like one of those?" those?" those?" >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And then instantly it shows up on my >> And then instantly it shows up on my >> And then instantly it shows up on my doorstep later that day. It knows my doorstep later that day. It knows my doorstep later that day. It knows my exact measurements because it's seen me. exact measurements because it's seen me. exact measurements because it's seen me. It's measured me. It's measured me. It's measured me. uh it knows all of my it knows I did not uh it knows all of my it knows I did not uh it knows all of my it knows I did not gain any weight. It knows that whatever gain any weight. It knows that whatever gain any weight. It knows that whatever the case and it orders something that the case and it orders something that the case and it orders something that fits perfectly for me, right? Um this fits perfectly for me, right? Um this fits perfectly for me, right? Um this future that's coming in the next you future that's coming in the next you future that's coming in the next you know 3 years, five at the almost uh is know 3 years, five at the almost uh is know 3 years, five at the almost uh is going to be extraordinary. going to be extraordinary. going to be extraordinary. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Um and uh you know people can choose not >> Um and uh you know people can choose not >> Um and uh you know people can choose not to do it. Uh, of course, just like, you to do it. Uh, of course, just like, you to do it. Uh, of course, just like, you know, people can choose not to use their know, people can choose not to use their know, people can choose not to use their phone, not to use a car, not to use phone, not to use a car, not to use phone, not to use a car, not to use technology at all, but because it's technology at all, but because it's technology at all, but because it's going to make our life uh so much easier going to make our life uh so much easier going to make our life uh so much easier and smoother. Wow. and smoother. Wow. and smoother. Wow. >> I think people will opt into this. So, >> I think people will opt into this. So, >> I think people will opt into this. So, we just stumbled into literally this we just stumbled into literally this we just stumbled into literally this will be the most discussed part of this will be the most discussed part of this will be the most discussed part of this podcast. podcast. podcast. >> This will be the part that's shared, the >> This will be the part that's shared, the >> This will be the part that's shared, the part where you said privacy is part where you said privacy is part where you said privacy is essentially an old concept. And by the essentially an old concept. And by the essentially an old concept. And by the way, you know, that may sound harsh, but way, you know, that may sound harsh, but way, you know, that may sound harsh, but remember as a young guy, you you my dad remember as a young guy, you you my dad remember as a young guy, you you my dad would say the only thing that's constant would say the only thing that's constant would say the only thing that's constant is change. It's always going to change. is change. It's always going to change. is change. It's always going to change. But now you guys, that's so real. This But now you guys, that's so real. This But now you guys, that's so real. This is such a fascinating conversation, is such a fascinating conversation, is such a fascinating conversation, right, that we're having right now. I right, that we're having right now. I right, that we're having right now. I mean, it is mean, it is mean, it is >> your Alexa, you know, if you have Alexa, >> your Alexa, you know, if you have Alexa, >> your Alexa, you know, if you have Alexa, it's listening all the time. If you have it's listening all the time. If you have it's listening all the time. If you have your iPhone, it's listening all the your iPhone, it's listening all the your iPhone, it's listening all the time. All of these devices are time. All of these devices are time. All of these devices are listening. I hope Amazon and Google and listening. I hope Amazon and Google and listening. I hope Amazon and Google and I I think the world of Google, I've I I think the world of Google, I've I I think the world of Google, I've known the team there for known the team there for known the team there for 20 uh over 22 years there. Uh Larry Page 20 uh over 22 years there. Uh Larry Page 20 uh over 22 years there. Uh Larry Page was on my board, Eric Schmidt, Sergey was on my board, Eric Schmidt, Sergey was on my board, Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin have all been benefactors of the Brin have all been benefactors of the Brin have all been benefactors of the X-P prize. Um and you know, but that X-P prize. Um and you know, but that X-P prize. Um and you know, but that data is out there in the ecosystem. data is out there in the ecosystem. data is out there in the ecosystem. >> Uh and we just forget about it. >> Uh and we just forget about it. >> Uh and we just forget about it. >> Uh and it's being used for advertising. >> Uh and it's being used for advertising. >> Uh and it's being used for advertising. Yes. Imagine if it's used to make your Yes. Imagine if it's used to make your Yes. Imagine if it's used to make your life uh more enjoyable, faster, simpler. life uh more enjoyable, faster, simpler. life uh more enjoyable, faster, simpler. >> I just think of things like that are >> I just think of things like that are >> I just think of things like that are basically here now that'll be here very basically here now that'll be here very basically here now that'll be here very soon, but that that that this we'll call soon, but that that that this we'll call soon, but that that that this we'll call it a robot is sensing that my blood it a robot is sensing that my blood it a robot is sensing that my blood pressure is increased. The amount of pressure is increased. The amount of pressure is increased. The amount of people that won't have strokes that used people that won't have strokes that used people that won't have strokes that used to have strokes that won't have a heart to have strokes that won't have a heart to have strokes that won't have a heart attack going to have a heart attack. the attack going to have a heart attack. the attack going to have a heart attack. the people. I mean, the fact that it's people. I mean, the fact that it's people. I mean, the fact that it's dialing in your your nutrients as you dialing in your your nutrients as you dialing in your your nutrients as you move throughout the day, you guys, it's move throughout the day, you guys, it's move throughout the day, you guys, it's just going to be and I mean now almost a just going to be and I mean now almost a just going to be and I mean now almost a different way of life of living. It different way of life of living. It different way of life of living. It truly is. And talking to you, um I truly is. And talking to you, um I truly is. And talking to you, um I obviously still, and I know you do, I obviously still, and I know you do, I obviously still, and I know you do, I still have that this can get away from still have that this can get away from still have that this can get away from us. I have concerns about privacy, about us. I have concerns about privacy, about us. I have concerns about privacy, about that it begins to shift consciousness to that it begins to shift consciousness to that it begins to shift consciousness to some extent. We lose control over that. some extent. We lose control over that. some extent. We lose control over that. I have my concerns, I have my concerns, I have my concerns, but I'm so excited about the way it will but I'm so excited about the way it will but I'm so excited about the way it will change the way people live and change the way people live and change the way people live and particularly for people that don't have particularly for people that don't have particularly for people that don't have means. There's means. There's means. There's >> it is it is it is it is democratizing >> it is it is it is it is democratizing >> it is it is it is it is democratizing and demonetizing. That's right. Access and demonetizing. That's right. Access and demonetizing. That's right. Access to this, you know, I I I you mentioned to this, you know, I I I you mentioned to this, you know, I I I you mentioned my book. I copy here. I'll just pull it my book. I copy here. I'll just pull it my book. I copy here. I'll just pull it up. We are as gods in the back of the up. We are as gods in the back of the up. We are as gods in the back of the book. So I published a book in with an book. So I published a book in with an book. So I published a book in with an incredible partner Steven Cutotler uh in incredible partner Steven Cutotler uh in incredible partner Steven Cutotler uh in 2012 called abundance the future is 2012 called abundance the future is 2012 called abundance the future is better than you think. great book better than you think. great book better than you think. great book >> and and it was you know I was the >> and and it was you know I was the >> and and it was you know I was the opening talk on TED that year uh and the opening talk on TED that year uh and the opening talk on TED that year uh and the book talks about how whatever was scarce book talks about how whatever was scarce book talks about how whatever was scarce in our life is becoming more and more in our life is becoming more and more in our life is becoming more and more abundant abundant abundant >> and it's and and people forget about >> and it's and and people forget about >> and it's and and people forget about this our access to energy our access to this our access to energy our access to this our access to energy our access to food water healthcare education um has food water healthcare education um has food water healthcare education um has in the back of the book I've got a in the back of the book I've got a in the back of the book I've got a hundred charts showing how the world has hundred charts showing how the world has hundred charts showing how the world has gotten considerably better over the last gotten considerably better over the last gotten considerably better over the last hundred years. Not because we've gotten hundred years. Not because we've gotten hundred years. Not because we've gotten smarter, not because we have better smarter, not because we have better smarter, not because we have better politicians, but because technology is politicians, but because technology is politicians, but because technology is enabling this. Now, it also has created enabling this. Now, it also has created enabling this. Now, it also has created an abundance of calories driving an abundance of calories driving an abundance of calories driving obesity, an abundance of microlastics, obesity, an abundance of microlastics, obesity, an abundance of microlastics, an abundance of carbon in the an abundance of carbon in the an abundance of carbon in the atmosphere. And I talk about the atmosphere. And I talk about the atmosphere. And I talk about the negative externalities in this book uh negative externalities in this book uh negative externalities in this book uh as well. But if you look at these charts as well. But if you look at these charts as well. But if you look at these charts and you realize oh my god the number of and you realize oh my god the number of and you realize oh my god the number of of people taken out of extreme poverty of people taken out of extreme poverty of people taken out of extreme poverty into poverty into middle class globally into poverty into middle class globally into poverty into middle class globally >> uh it's amazing and we are raising the >> uh it's amazing and we are raising the >> uh it's amazing and we are raising the level you know uh level you know uh level you know uh >> 5,000 years ago a thousand years ago is >> 5,000 years ago a thousand years ago is >> 5,000 years ago a thousand years ago is the king and the queen the pharaoh the the king and the queen the pharaoh the the king and the queen the pharaoh the the emperor on the on the hilltop and the emperor on the on the hilltop and the emperor on the on the hilltop and everybody else in abject squalor everybody else in abject squalor everybody else in abject squalor >> and what's occurred is fundamentally you >> and what's occurred is fundamentally you >> and what's occurred is fundamentally you know they worked for that the the royal know they worked for that the the royal know they worked for that the the royal family on the hilltop. family on the hilltop. family on the hilltop. >> Uh today we have moved people uh up into >> Uh today we have moved people uh up into >> Uh today we have moved people uh up into middle class globally. Uh access to middle class globally. Uh access to middle class globally. Uh access to literacy and and health and water and literacy and and health and water and literacy and and health and water and food and energy all these things have food and energy all these things have food and energy all these things have been moving uh upwards. And my mission been moving uh upwards. And my mission been moving uh upwards. And my mission right is uh is to continue that process right is uh is to continue that process right is uh is to continue that process to create this world of abundance of to create this world of abundance of to create this world of abundance of extraordinary abundance where every man, extraordinary abundance where every man, extraordinary abundance where every man, woman and child can have anything they woman and child can have anything they woman and child can have anything they need or desire. need or desire. need or desire. >> Will we have trillionaires living on >> Will we have trillionaires living on >> Will we have trillionaires living on Mars who are of indefinite lifespans? Mars who are of indefinite lifespans? Mars who are of indefinite lifespans? Yes. Yes. Yes. >> And and will the wealth gap increase? >> And and will the wealth gap increase? >> And and will the wealth gap increase? Yes. Yes. Yes. >> But as long as the bottom is coming up >> But as long as the bottom is coming up >> But as long as the bottom is coming up >> Yeah. above this line. >> Yeah. above this line. >> Yeah. above this line. >> Y >> Y >> Y >> um that's the most important thing. >> um that's the most important thing. >> um that's the most important thing. >> It is the most important thing because >> It is the most important thing because >> It is the most important thing because that gap at the extreme top is going to that gap at the extreme top is going to that gap at the extreme top is going to expand. It's already accelerated the expand. It's already accelerated the expand. It's already accelerated the last 20 years at a rate it never has in last 20 years at a rate it never has in last 20 years at a rate it never has in in in human history. And guys, you're in in human history. And guys, you're in in human history. And guys, you're going to see more of that. You're going going to see more of that. You're going going to see more of that. You're going to see that gap at the very top expand to see that gap at the very top expand to see that gap at the very top expand even more. But Peter's point is so well even more. But Peter's point is so well even more. But Peter's point is so well taken that if this works out the way it taken that if this works out the way it taken that if this works out the way it should and the numbers already show us should and the numbers already show us should and the numbers already show us that it has been that the floor is being that it has been that the floor is being that it has been that the floor is being raised as the top is being raised as raised as the top is being raised as raised as the top is being raised as well. so that more people live in well. so that more people live in well. so that more people live in abundance, more people get access to abundance, more people get access to abundance, more people get access to information and good food and nutrition information and good food and nutrition information and good food and nutrition and medical care for their families, and medical care for their families, and medical care for their families, housing. And so we got to keep that in housing. And so we got to keep that in housing. And so we got to keep that in mind as we watch sort of I think the mind as we watch sort of I think the mind as we watch sort of I think the media begin to try to have this warfare media begin to try to have this warfare media begin to try to have this warfare between the very top that we see all the between the very top that we see all the between the very top that we see all the time. time. time. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So now I get to ask the Ed Mlet question >> So now I get to ask the Ed Mlet question >> So now I get to ask the Ed Mlet question for the podcast. I've been really on for the podcast. I've been really on for the podcast. I've been really on this binge the last 6 months of reading this binge the last 6 months of reading this binge the last 6 months of reading and learning and watching about UAPs, and learning and watching about UAPs, and learning and watching about UAPs, um, formerly known and commonly known as um, formerly known and commonly known as um, formerly known and commonly known as UFOs. And I want to know because as a UFOs. And I want to know because as a UFOs. And I want to know because as a guy who thinks on the edge and who has guy who thinks on the edge and who has guy who thinks on the edge and who has access to all this data and information access to all this data and information access to all this data and information that a lot of people don't have, I want that a lot of people don't have, I want that a lot of people don't have, I want to know your thoughts on the existence to know your thoughts on the existence to know your thoughts on the existence of UAPs or UFOs. Do they exist? Are they of UAPs or UFOs. Do they exist? Are they of UAPs or UFOs. Do they exist? Are they with us? Is it a good thing? Is it a with us? Is it a good thing? Is it a with us? Is it a good thing? Is it a scary thing? You just said we're going scary thing? You just said we're going scary thing? You just said we're going to be living on Mars and people will to be living on Mars and people will to be living on Mars and people will have unlimited life expecties living have unlimited life expecties living have unlimited life expecties living there. Are they going to be living there there. Are they going to be living there there. Are they going to be living there next to just the human species or will next to just the human species or will next to just the human species or will there be something else amongst them there be something else amongst them there be something else amongst them there that may be among us here or not? there that may be among us here or not? there that may be among us here or not? So UAPs, UFOs, your thoughts? So UAPs, UFOs, your thoughts? So UAPs, UFOs, your thoughts? >> So listen, you're talking to a kid who >> So listen, you're talking to a kid who >> So listen, you're talking to a kid who got space religion at age nine, right? got space religion at age nine, right? got space religion at age nine, right? Star Trek and Apollo. And so I most Star Trek and Apollo. And so I most Star Trek and Apollo. And so I most definitely hope they exist. Okay. Um uh definitely hope they exist. Okay. Um uh definitely hope they exist. Okay. Um uh so the evidence that's mounting and the so the evidence that's mounting and the so the evidence that's mounting and the recent releases uh that have come out of recent releases uh that have come out of recent releases uh that have come out of the White House um there is something the White House um there is something the White House um there is something definitively there. Uh I have never seen definitively there. Uh I have never seen definitively there. Uh I have never seen anything myself. I wish I have had those anything myself. I wish I have had those anything myself. I wish I have had those experiences. I haven't. experiences. I haven't. experiences. I haven't. >> Um you know we live in a uh a universe >> Um you know we live in a uh a universe >> Um you know we live in a uh a universe that is some 14 plus billion years old. that is some 14 plus billion years old. that is some 14 plus billion years old. Uh and it's ridiculous to think that Uh and it's ridiculous to think that Uh and it's ridiculous to think that life is not ubiquitous in the universe. life is not ubiquitous in the universe. life is not ubiquitous in the universe. Uh and I guarantee you that a any Uh and I guarantee you that a any Uh and I guarantee you that a any technology 50 years uh more advanced technology 50 years uh more advanced technology 50 years uh more advanced than us could be here on the planet than us could be here on the planet than us could be here on the planet undetected. Uh that you know if they undetected. Uh that you know if they undetected. Uh that you know if they have advanced enough technology for have advanced enough technology for have advanced enough technology for interstellar flight. I guarantee you interstellar flight. I guarantee you interstellar flight. I guarantee you they have the ability to cloak they have the ability to cloak they have the ability to cloak themselves uh from our rudimentary themselves uh from our rudimentary themselves uh from our rudimentary technology today. So I I simply look at technology today. So I I simply look at technology today. So I I simply look at the people who have made these the people who have made these the people who have made these disclosures, the people who have sworn disclosures, the people who have sworn disclosures, the people who have sworn uh under oath that this is real, that uh under oath that this is real, that uh under oath that this is real, that the tech that the spaceships and the the tech that the spaceships and the the tech that the spaceships and the aliens, they've seen them, and I can't aliens, they've seen them, and I can't aliens, they've seen them, and I can't ignore that. ignore that. ignore that. >> Um what they are um you know, my friend >> Um what they are um you know, my friend >> Um what they are um you know, my friend Palmer Lucky thinks that they're that uh Palmer Lucky thinks that they're that uh Palmer Lucky thinks that they're that uh they're from our past versus they're from our past versus they're from our past versus interstellar. interstellar. interstellar. um end of the day uh I tend to think um end of the day uh I tend to think um end of the day uh I tend to think that it is real uh and that we're going that it is real uh and that we're going that it is real uh and that we're going to get increasing capability. You know, to get increasing capability. You know, to get increasing capability. You know, it's interesting that these UFOs, to use it's interesting that these UFOs, to use it's interesting that these UFOs, to use that that term for a moment, uh came that that term for a moment, uh came that that term for a moment, uh came into our purview around the time that into our purview around the time that into our purview around the time that our nuclear programs began, that the our nuclear programs began, that the our nuclear programs began, that the nuclear bomb came on online. uh and nuclear bomb came on online. uh and nuclear bomb came on online. uh and they're prevalent again now at the at they're prevalent again now at the at they're prevalent again now at the at the birth of un uh of AGI and artificial the birth of un uh of AGI and artificial the birth of un uh of AGI and artificial super intelligence which is the single super intelligence which is the single super intelligence which is the single most uh uh impactful moment in human most uh uh impactful moment in human most uh uh impactful moment in human history history history >> uh that we're going to see uh uh >> uh that we're going to see uh uh >> uh that we're going to see uh uh humanity change and as a result of that humanity change and as a result of that humanity change and as a result of that uh I imagine that they may be here uh to uh I imagine that they may be here uh to uh I imagine that they may be here uh to help view what how we react as a help view what how we react as a help view what how we react as a species, how we're evolving, how we're species, how we're evolving, how we're species, how we're evolving, how we're dealing with this dealing with this dealing with this >> because this is a transition point for >> because this is a transition point for >> because this is a transition point for humanity. Putting aside the UFOs, our humanity. Putting aside the UFOs, our humanity. Putting aside the UFOs, our transition of of creating this advanced transition of of creating this advanced transition of of creating this advanced AI AI AI >> um and guiding it so that it is aligned >> um and guiding it so that it is aligned >> um and guiding it so that it is aligned with humanity and not you know there are with humanity and not you know there are with humanity and not you know there are two versions of the future. one where two versions of the future. one where two versions of the future. one where technology is um uh is oppressing us uh technology is um uh is oppressing us uh technology is um uh is oppressing us uh and one where technology is enabling us, and one where technology is enabling us, and one where technology is enabling us, right? It's the Terminator future versus right? It's the Terminator future versus right? It's the Terminator future versus the Star Trek future. Let me take a a the Star Trek future. Let me take a a the Star Trek future. Let me take a a moment on that. Uh so one of my one of moment on that. Uh so one of my one of moment on that. Uh so one of my one of my concerns is that Hollywood for my concerns is that Hollywood for my concerns is that Hollywood for you know decades majority of all movies you know decades majority of all movies you know decades majority of all movies coming out of Hollywood are dystopian coming out of Hollywood are dystopian coming out of Hollywood are dystopian movies [clears throat] about technology. movies [clears throat] about technology. movies [clears throat] about technology. It's killer robots. It's dystopian AIS It's killer robots. It's dystopian AIS It's killer robots. It's dystopian AIS >> and they have programmed us to think of >> and they have programmed us to think of >> and they have programmed us to think of these future technologies as they're these future technologies as they're these future technologies as they're going to kill us, right? It's going to kill us, right? It's going to kill us, right? It's Terminator, it's Xmachina, it's Black Terminator, it's Xmachina, it's Black Terminator, it's Xmachina, it's Black Mirror, and I rebel against that. you Mirror, and I rebel against that. you Mirror, and I rebel against that. you know there uh so what do so I did know there uh so what do so I did know there uh so what do so I did something recently um when I was growing something recently um when I was growing something recently um when I was growing up Star Trek uh the original series and up Star Trek uh the original series and up Star Trek uh the original series and uh next generation showed us a future in uh next generation showed us a future in uh next generation showed us a future in which humanity and technology worked which humanity and technology worked which humanity and technology worked collaboratively to do amazing things collaboratively to do amazing things collaboratively to do amazing things >> um and so I said we need that we need >> um and so I said we need that we need >> um and so I said we need that we need more of that in our lives we need that more of that in our lives we need that more of that in our lives we need that that future vision so uh I reached out that future vision so uh I reached out that future vision so uh I reached out to Rod Rodenberry uh the creator the son to Rod Rodenberry uh the creator the son to Rod Rodenberry uh the creator the son of Gene Rodbury, the creator of Star of Gene Rodbury, the creator of Star of Gene Rodbury, the creator of Star Trek. I reached out to a few dear Trek. I reached out to a few dear Trek. I reached out to a few dear friends like Mark Beni off, the founder friends like Mark Beni off, the founder friends like Mark Beni off, the founder of Salesforce, my friends at Google, uh, of Salesforce, my friends at Google, uh, of Salesforce, my friends at Google, uh, and, uh, and Kathy Wood at Arc Invest. and, uh, and Kathy Wood at Arc Invest. and, uh, and Kathy Wood at Arc Invest. And we launched a film making And we launched a film making And we launched a film making competition. Good. competition. Good. competition. Good. >> So, this is called the Future Vision X-P >> So, this is called the Future Vision X-P >> So, this is called the Future Vision X-P Prize. You can go to Prize. You can go to Prize. You can go to futurevisionexprize.com futurevisionexprize.com futurevisionexprize.com >> to learn about it. And we've challenged >> to learn about it. And we've challenged >> to learn about it. And we've challenged filmmakers out there to come forward filmmakers out there to come forward filmmakers out there to come forward with the movie they want to create. Um, with the movie they want to create. Um, with the movie they want to create. Um, they have to generate a threeinut film they have to generate a threeinut film they have to generate a threeinut film trailer and a film treatment in writing trailer and a film treatment in writing trailer and a film treatment in writing of a movie that shows a hopeful, of a movie that shows a hopeful, of a movie that shows a hopeful, compelling, abundant vision of the compelling, abundant vision of the compelling, abundant vision of the future. And we're going to get, you future. And we're going to get, you future. And we're going to get, you know, 5 10,000 entries. We're at like know, 5 10,000 entries. We're at like know, 5 10,000 entries. We're at like 2500 a month later. Uh, it goes through 2500 a month later. Uh, it goes through 2500 a month later. Uh, it goes through the end of August. And, uh, two things the end of August. And, uh, two things the end of August. And, uh, two things are going to occur. Number one, we're are going to occur. Number one, we're are going to occur. Number one, we're going to flood YouTube with positive going to flood YouTube with positive going to flood YouTube with positive visions of the future. how AI robots visions of the future. how AI robots visions of the future. how AI robots partnering with humanity are going to do partnering with humanity are going to do partnering with humanity are going to do amazing things amazing things amazing things >> extending our health span, you know, >> extending our health span, you know, >> extending our health span, you know, upping the floor, uh enabling us to upping the floor, uh enabling us to upping the floor, uh enabling us to solve every problem that's out there. solve every problem that's out there. solve every problem that's out there. And I fundamentally believe that. And I fundamentally believe that. And I fundamentally believe that. >> Um and so we're going to flood YouTube >> Um and so we're going to flood YouTube >> Um and so we're going to flood YouTube with these positive visions and then the with these positive visions and then the with these positive visions and then the the film uh trailer and treatment that the film uh trailer and treatment that the film uh trailer and treatment that wins, we're going to make that movie. wins, we're going to make that movie. wins, we're going to make that movie. And so we're creating an engine for And so we're creating an engine for And so we're creating an engine for positive storytelling. positive storytelling. positive storytelling. >> And there are two outcomes here. Ed. Um, >> And there are two outcomes here. Ed. Um, >> And there are two outcomes here. Ed. Um, one is I hope to create uh, you know, we one is I hope to create uh, you know, we one is I hope to create uh, you know, we as humans we teach through story. Our as humans we teach through story. Our as humans we teach through story. Our stories become uh our our our laws, our stories become uh our our our laws, our stories become uh our our our laws, our culture, our future. So, we need culture, our future. So, we need culture, our future. So, we need positive stories, right? Without a positive stories, right? Without a positive stories, right? Without a vision, the people will perish, you vision, the people will perish, you vision, the people will perish, you know, right? So, uh, that's the first know, right? So, uh, that's the first know, right? So, uh, that's the first thing. Help train our neural nets, our thing. Help train our neural nets, our thing. Help train our neural nets, our 100 trillion synaptic connections about 100 trillion synaptic connections about 100 trillion synaptic connections about yes, we can have these positive futures. yes, we can have these positive futures. yes, we can have these positive futures. There's a second reason that that is There's a second reason that that is There's a second reason that that is just recent. Um I don't know if you just recent. Um I don't know if you just recent. Um I don't know if you remember uh about a year ago, nine remember uh about a year ago, nine remember uh about a year ago, nine months ago, there was an announcement months ago, there was an announcement months ago, there was an announcement that uh Claude uh the AI engine the AI that uh Claude uh the AI engine the AI that uh Claude uh the AI engine the AI uh large language model by anthropic uh uh large language model by anthropic uh uh large language model by anthropic uh in a series of sandbox experiments was in a series of sandbox experiments was in a series of sandbox experiments was uh was blackmailing Yes. the developers. uh was blackmailing Yes. the developers. uh was blackmailing Yes. the developers. You remember that? You remember that? You remember that? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> It was like uh you know we're going to >> It was like uh you know we're going to >> It was like uh you know we're going to shut you off and it was like it was shut you off and it was like it was shut you off and it was like it was saying oh if you do that I'm going to saying oh if you do that I'm going to saying oh if you do that I'm going to I'm going to tell your wife about your I'm going to tell your wife about your I'm going to tell your wife about your affair. Yeah. Exactly. And so uh and the affair. Yeah. Exactly. And so uh and the affair. Yeah. Exactly. And so uh and the team at Anthropic looked at why was that team at Anthropic looked at why was that team at Anthropic looked at why was that happening happening happening >> and it went back and it said well the >> and it went back and it said well the >> and it went back and it said well the training data for this model showed training data for this model showed training data for this model showed science uh science fiction stories and science uh science fiction stories and science uh science fiction stories and movies in which AI was doing just that. movies in which AI was doing just that. movies in which AI was doing just that. >> AI was in self-preservation doing >> AI was in self-preservation doing >> AI was in self-preservation doing whatever it took whatever it took whatever it took >> to self-preserve and it was you know it >> to self-preserve and it was you know it >> to self-preserve and it was you know it was doing these things in its own was doing these things in its own was doing these things in its own self-interest. So what I realized is self-interest. So what I realized is self-interest. So what I realized is that these movies we're creating through that these movies we're creating through that these movies we're creating through the future vision X-P prize and uh these the future vision X-P prize and uh these the future vision X-P prize and uh these film shorts and these film uh trailers film shorts and these film uh trailers film shorts and these film uh trailers are going to become training data for are going to become training data for are going to become training data for our future models our future models our future models >> to align with humanity say no this is >> to align with humanity say no this is >> to align with humanity say no this is the way that humans and AIs work the way that humans and AIs work the way that humans and AIs work together. together. together. >> So I'm super excited about that that >> So I'm super excited about that that >> So I'm super excited about that that future vision XP prize. future vision XP prize. future vision XP prize. >> I'm so excited about today's >> I'm so excited about today's >> I'm so excited about today's conversation as I always am with you. By conversation as I always am with you. By conversation as I always am with you. By the way, everyone, you're welcome. And I the way, everyone, you're welcome. And I the way, everyone, you're welcome. And I know you're going to share this episode. know you're going to share this episode. know you're going to share this episode. Um, you guys, you can follow Peter Um, you guys, you can follow Peter Um, you guys, you can follow Peter online. You can go to the X-P Prize. online. You can go to the X-P Prize. online. You can go to the X-P Prize. What's the website for the X-P Prize, What's the website for the X-P Prize, What's the website for the X-P Prize, just so they know? just so they know? just so they know? >> It's x-prise. xp r i z.org. xprise.org. >> It's x-prise. xp r i z.org. xprise.org. >> It's x-prise. xp r i z.org. xprise.org. You can learn more about all the prizes You can learn more about all the prizes You can learn more about all the prizes we have going on there. Uh, I'm at we have going on there. Uh, I'm at we have going on there. Uh, I'm at diamandis.com. You can get my Substack diamandis.com. You can get my Substack diamandis.com. You can get my Substack there. You know, uh, moonshots.com is my there. You know, uh, moonshots.com is my there. You know, uh, moonshots.com is my my pod. And by the way, I think the book my pod. And by the way, I think the book my pod. And by the way, I think the book too, Moonshots is awesome, but also we too, Moonshots is awesome, but also we too, Moonshots is awesome, but also we are as gods. Uh, go get the book, you are as gods. Uh, go get the book, you are as gods. Uh, go get the book, you guys. That's guys. That's guys. That's >> Yeah, the the book focuses on on on uh >> Yeah, the the book focuses on on on uh >> Yeah, the the book focuses on on on uh the most important thing you can do. So, the most important thing you can do. So, the most important thing you can do. So, the first half of the book is looking at the first half of the book is looking at the first half of the book is looking at evidence of abundance, all the evidence of abundance, all the evidence of abundance, all the technologies that are making our world technologies that are making our world technologies that are making our world amazing, uh the you know, the negative amazing, uh the you know, the negative amazing, uh the you know, the negative externalities, how we deal with those. externalities, how we deal with those. externalities, how we deal with those. >> But the second half of the book is about >> But the second half of the book is about >> But the second half of the book is about what you can do. And the number one what you can do. And the number one what you can do. And the number one thing you can do is change your mindset, thing you can do is change your mindset, thing you can do is change your mindset, >> become curious, become purpose driven, >> become curious, become purpose driven, >> become curious, become purpose driven, right? Uh become focused on an abundance right? Uh become focused on an abundance right? Uh become focused on an abundance mindset. There's nothing truly scarce in mindset. There's nothing truly scarce in mindset. There's nothing truly scarce in the world. So it walks you through the the world. So it walks you through the the world. So it walks you through the mindsets that you need to both survive mindsets that you need to both survive mindsets that you need to both survive and to thrive in the decade ahead. and to thrive in the decade ahead. and to thrive in the decade ahead. >> That's what we just did today, too, by >> That's what we just did today, too, by >> That's what we just did today, too, by the way. So everybody go get the book. the way. So everybody go get the book. the way. So everybody go get the book. Peter, thank you. Tell your mom thank Peter, thank you. Tell your mom thank Peter, thank you. Tell your mom thank you for making you. And uh I'm really you for making you. And uh I'm really you for making you. And uh I'm really grateful you're here. We'll have you grateful you're here. We'll have you grateful you're here. We'll have you back on in another year and you're going back on in another year and you're going back on in another year and you're going to update us on where we're going to update us on where we're going to update us on where we're going >> and I appreciate you, pal. Thank you for >> and I appreciate you, pal. Thank you for >> and I appreciate you, pal. Thank you for all that you do and spreading uh wisdom. all that you do and spreading uh wisdom. all that you do and spreading uh wisdom. Grateful for you. Grateful for you. Grateful for you. >> Yeah. Well, I just I just get quiet and >> Yeah. Well, I just I just get quiet and >> Yeah. Well, I just I just get quiet and let guys like you talk. So, thank you so let guys like you talk. So, thank you so let guys like you talk. So, thank you so much. God bless you everybody. Max out.