US Hits Iranian Infrastructure. DSA Commits Treason? Spencer Pratt’s Bombshell Accusation

Key Takeaway

Only the paranoid survive in volatile markets. With the US striking 90+ targets in Iran, oil jumping 4.4% in a single day, and China potentially weaponizing instability to advance on Taiwan, this is not the time for complacency. Position yourself for the unknown, not the known. The world order is changing dramatically—diversification and defensive positioning matter more than ever when geopolitical tensions can shift market dynamics overnight.

Episode Overview

Tom Bilyeu discusses escalating tensions between the US and Iran following 90+ military strikes, the collapse of ceasefire negotiations, and rising oil prices. He analyzes China's strategic interest in prolonging the conflict to potentially move on Taiwan, warns about market volatility driven by geopolitical instability, and explores Rupert Lowe's controversial views on Muslim immigration in the UK using Lebanon's transformation as a cautionary example.

Full Transcript

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Another episode of the Tom Billu Show live. I'm so glad you guys are joining us. Ah, it has been quite the week as the US struck 90 different targets in Iran, including infrastructure. As talks stall out, Trump is saying that they're dead. There's no point negotiating. So, we are back to negotiating via force. Tyler Robinson's boyfriend's testimony is played during the preliminary hearing and it is damning both for Tyler and dare I say Candace Owens. You guys are going to want to hear that. Gary's economics also had a very rough time as tax experts absolutely batter his new documentary for being naive.

Some really interesting stuff going back and forth on X about that as well. Spencer Pratt gives up on his candidacy in a video detailing how the election was rigged. Rigged is an interesting word. You're going to want to hear it from him. We're going to go through that video in detail. Uh I think it's pretty damning, especially because um he's saying that it's not really widescale fraud that you have to worry about. So what is it? We're going to go through that. More DSA members admit on camera that they are actively trying to destroy the United States.

Not making that up. It's not hyperbole. Rupert Low reveal sayings on Rogan that will make you mad enough to chew glass, at least if you're wired like I am. And we're going deep on recent analysis, a recent analyst claim that AI as an industry is totally screwed. So, all of that and more coming out. Shout out, by the way, to our friends at Humble House. We used to have a whole lot more of these, but we have just been eating them so much. They are absolutely delicious and you can get 15% off some of the best sauces in the world at humblehousefoods.com.

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So, you guys are dope. We love your stuff. Uh all right, everybody. This is a wild time to be alive. I know it can be easy to get numb to what's going on in Iran, but the ceasefire really is as dead as disco right now. That is not a good thing if you like stability in the markets. Trump just said straight up at the NATO summit on Wednesday that this was done. He said further negotiation would be a waste of time. Now, listen, that's part of the negotiation.

I get it, but clearly things are not going well. Clearly theou uh was a market soothing device that neither side really thought was anything other than buying themselves time. Uh so cue the missiles and more fighter jets because Sentcom just absolutely hammered Iran with consecutive nights of strikes, hitting roughly 90 targets most recently, which was on top of the already massive first night of returning to strikes where there were 80 plus strikes. The target list is also beginning to look different. We had the familiar defensive systems, coastal surveillance, missile and drone storage, naval assets, that kind of stuff.

But now we're starting to get military logistics infrastructure logistics infrastructure logistics infrastructure along Iran's coastline. And in a supposed corridor that's been allowing China to help restock Iran. We're still avoiding the oil facilities, which is great. I would love to see us avoid that as long as possible. They do appear to really be trying to isolate Iran from China and anybody else that would be attempting to help rearm them. Overall goal, I hope for all of us, pretty obvious at this point. They want to destroy Iran's ability to shoot at the tankers going through the straight of Hormuse.

And that really is um as much as they want us to have all eyes on the nuclear side of this uh right now the big issue is the straight of hormuz. So through all of this the US is also being forced into heightened alert over assassination attempts on Trump and other members of our government. If you guys saw during the uh funeral for Kmeni, they had this gigantic sign that said, "We're going to kill Trump." Um, as Trump was leaving Turkey, Israel warned there were credible threats against him.

The Secret Service then convinced Trump to fly back on the old Air Force One instead of the new one that was gifted by Qatar. Nobody's saying that they don't trust Qar. They're just saying that, well, maybe that version of Air Force One is not as capable. maybe more drenched in gold, but it's not as defensively capable. So, he actually did end up heatinged that warning, which is probably wise. Uh, and came back on the old one. Now, Iran is obviously upset about all of this and they are continuing to lash out at US bases in Bahrain and Kuwait.

So far, heavy emphasis on so far, the damage has been pretty minimal, but Iran's parliament speaker remains completely defiant through all of this. And man, if you watch some of the videos, they definitely don't look like um they are interested in playing nice at all. And they're saying that the strait will only open on Iranian arrangements, not American threats. And now the threats are flying back and forth pretty openly. There was some hearing. I didn't get time to look up what the hearing was. uh but the delegate from Iran warned the US delegate to uh be polite I think was the word that he said and then of course US delegate failed to take uh that advice uh and was pushing back saying hey I'm not going to take this kind of talk from somebody that kills their own citizens so we can expect this to continue to be wild uh now as you would expect given all of the renewed uncertainty the markets are a moving WTI crude jumped 4.4% 4% Wednesday to $73 uh.52.

It's the biggest one-day move since early June. Uh we also had a 2-day gain of over 7%. And I suppose if you're betting on oil going up, you're happy. But if you're every human that doesn't want to see the price of oil go up because that's basically just inflation. Uh this is not great news. Brent has pushed back above $78. The Dow has dropped uh 577 points. The S&P fell by.3%, but to keep it all in perspective, so far we're not getting back to the unhinged levels where we were at about $126 back in April.

So, we're nowhere near that right now. Great news. The way to read this is probably the traders are pricing this as elevated risk, but not a return to full-scale war. We'll see as things play out. I don't take any one moment in the markets very seriously. Uh things could obviously get very um volatile again. We could see those prices go back up. It's going to really be determined by how much oil is the US able to keep going through the straight. Now, from what I've seen, we're in the double digits of ships transiting, but I imagine it's an absolutely small percentage of what was going through when the seem to be holding things a little bit more steady.

Uh and certainly a far cry from where we were before all of this kicked off. So, um yeah, I'd be if you're a day trader, yikes. I wouldn't want to be you, but I would be very careful assuming that this is anything approaching static. And so, you're going to have to live inside of your portfolio from minute to minute, which PS I do not advise people do, man. Unless this is your full-time job. Um, yeah, way too much volatility. I would position yourself for the unknown.

Uh, and not that you've got the readown, man. We are, yeah, moments away from things escalating, something weird happening, uh, the straight getting shut down, another ship getting hit, you know, whatever. Uh, the US putting their blockade up and just not letting anything go. So, we'll see exactly what happens, but this is certainly wild times, man. This is wild and this is not going anywhere uh anytime soon. We talked about that before. I really do think this is going to drag on for quite some time.

Will it be cataloged as a forever war? Yes, probably by pundits. um will it have the same cost structure? That's really what this is going to be about. We're going to get more into um inflation and debt and all of that good stuff, of course, as we go. And war is expensive. expensive. expensive. So, not a fun time. I'd much rather see all the stability in the world return, but that ain't going to happen anytime soon. soon. soon. Money printer go burr. Money printer go burr, Drew.

At all times. times. At all times. Yep. We're going to be here for a while. Get comfortable. Start practicing your Iranian with how with they speaking. Damn. Damn. Damn. Farsy. We're going there. What? Farsy. I'm going to need that was not what I expected Drew to say. Uh Drew, are you saying that we as diplomats we need to speak the language of the opponent or are you saying they got Jared Kushner out there, Tom? They might need to have to add you into the team. Maybe if we had some actual diplomats that would happen, but um um um uh uh uh yeah, we're trying Unfortunately, Eric, I don't know what's wrong with it, so I don't know how to fix it.

I think my earpiece looks ugly, everybody. Is Oh, I didn't put it down my back, Eric. Oh, my failure. I'm not used to it yet. I'm not used to it yet. So, forgive me if my earpiece looks trash this whole time because I have to thread it through my shirt, which I failed to do. Shame on me. me. me. We'll be okay. Um, a former C CIA operative has also said that the Kurds getting involved could be like, you know, adding some uh bit of a variable to the fire.

Maybe that can actually help us. Um, I don't know the likelihood of that or if this is just speculation, but do you think that we could have Well, at this point, it's definitely just speculation, but the whether it's going to go through. So, we had John Kiraakau, I believe, is his name. So, former CIA operative, I believe, is his official um former title. I don't believe he's still with the CIA. Uh, but he was saying basically that this is them getting involved is basically 100% certainty.

Now, he doesn't know that for sure, but when you look at the playbook, um that is most likely something that's going to happen. So, the Kurds, people expect them to come in and fight on the side of the US. Uh that the Middle East really is taking sides now. So, you've got the UAE that's all in with the US. Um you've got Saudi, uh Saudi Arabia, I think Qatar that are more like, we're going to wait and see how this all plays out. They're not necessarily overcommitting to Assad.

um Aman is going to be important in all of this because um people are hugging their coast and so if they end up siding with the US and creating like hey Iran you do your thing but if people stay on our side we're going to take that as a challenge to our sovereignty and you can [ __ ] off. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out. I'd be a little surprised if they were that bold but so anyway going back to the Kurds. So, they're a fighting force that can give you ground troops in Iran, um, that are Iranians, that are opposed to the regime that have been trying to take it down.

And at one point at the beginning of this, we tried to get them a bunch of weapons, and then Trump said that they were stolen and that they didn't get distributed appropriately. I don't know if it was stolen by the Kurds and they were supposed to go to the actual people of Iran. I'm not sure what their actual detailed plan was there, but it clearly did not go according to plan. So, if originally they had expected the Kurds to grab the weapons and actually fight, they didn't do that.

But now, um, John Curio is saying he expects them to work with the CIA to launch something official there on the ground. We'll see. I don't have uh enough detailed research on that yet to have any confidence myself. I can just say what he is saying. Uh, and we'll see if that ends up playing out. If that did work and the US could get ground troop support, but not have to supply it themselves, that would be better. As a reminder to everybody, we still have like 5,000 uh Marines stationed in the area that could be ready to go at a moment's notice.

Trump has said many times that he wants to take Car Island. Um, so we'll see if that ends up happening. I still think that would be an escalation. That would be so damaging to the American psyche. I think that that would be really problematic for him. And if you put people on the ground, they're now stationary targets that are much easier to hit. Your only hope would be that you can sort of hide around the infrastructure enough that Iran wouldn't want to strike their own island.

I think that's part of what they would bet on if they were doing that. But oo, that one is very unnerving. We talked about this briefly before, but Professor Gang believes that the only reason we don't have ground troops there now is because the weather in Iran, this is like the summer variant of you never send troops into Russia in the winter. Uh you never send troops into Iran in the summer because it's just so hot. Um and so he's expecting there to be troops uh at some point this year, which is crazy.

is crazy. is crazy. I mean, we do have a presence in Turkey. We have a presence with some of our military bases in the area. So, it's not like we're importing them from the US. You know, we're we're in the neighborhood. We're just not at the house yet. house yet. house yet. Yes. But US troops dying in this conflict would not go over well. So, it doesn't matter whether we station them in Turkey or the UAE. It that is not going to matter to Americans at all.

And ultimately, America being a democracy, you really are held accountable to the people in a way that Iran is not. Thank God, right? Because Iran literally, same way with China, if they think you're getting too uppidity, they shoot you in the face. And I know there are plenty of people that will have you believe that that's exactly how ISCAS, these people have no idea what they're talking about. So when you have a truly repressive regime that rolls up into Tianaan Square or on the streets of Iran and they'll happily roll up with tanks, whatever, and just open fire with live ammunition.

Um, that's a totally different scenario than, okay, wait, was the car being pulled forward or not, one person gets killed? Uh, it's a different scene. So I still don't think we have real numbers about how many people Iran has killed, but I don't think anybody's saying it was less than 2500. Most people I think put the number north of 5,000 and you hear reports all the way up to 40,000 plus. Uh so yeah, at that point it's in no way, shape or form to make light of the um people that have been killed in the ICE conflicts.

But if people think that there's some sort of equivalency, it's that's madness. So Trump has a problem to deal with politically that Iran does not. And so this could um get very dangerous for the people of Iran very quickly if the Kurds come in, try to do an uprising, they're you know, all hell breaks loose, we send troops into the ground. It just this is one of those things that um I think it's very difficult to know exactly what's going to happen. Uh as they say in war, the enemy always gets a say.

you can make all the plans in the world and have hey this really strategic plan for what you're going to do on Car Island and then they roll up and you know get 5 10 20 troops and America will spaz. Um going slightly off script because you brought it up. Did you hear about the ICE shooting that happened recently? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So another one added. Um I I I kind of said my piece on the Iran thing. We're going to be here for a while.

Get comfortable. It's a forever war. Uh anything else you feel like we need to add to this? does I mean this is so the the real context for me about what's going on in Iran is going to be America's going to have to decide what his foreign policy is. So the world order is changing. I still believe all eyes need to be on China. My ears always perk up when I hear, "Okay, now we're attacking infrastructure that we believe, at least as it's being reported right now, that we believe China was using to rearm Iran, which would mean that China is not being, if this is correct, and and I don't hone enough details on this yet, I think, to give you a real answer.

But certainly if you make that base assumption as to why they're hitting the bridges that they're hitting uh along the roads that lead up to um areas that people are saying that China is sending um equipment through. It certainly would make sense. Uh that's where I get okay. China is not as neutral in all of this or as handsoff in all of this as uh maybe we want to believe. If this is going to be a play where China and the US begin a proxy battle um in Iran that becomes a very different thing.

So there are a lot of people looking at this saying that this is really the US fighting a war on behalf of Israel. But is it is this that certainly there is a massive desire on the part of Israel to strike. Um Netanyahu recently said that if the US asks him to, he will re-enter uh the attacks on Iran joyfully, I'm sure. I think Trump is trying to make it clear that this is not a return to war. Obviously, there are political reasons why he doesn't want this being bu as a war.

I don't think you're going to hear him call it a war anymore. I think his advisers finally told him to knock that off. Uh because that certainly wasn't playing well for him politically. So, So, So, I don't think that's what this is. I don't think it was ever an Israel uh leading the US into something. Again, I've laid out my case for what exactly I think Trump is doing. If anybody in the chat wants to speedrun that, I'm happy to do it. But right now, I think focusing on, okay, what is the dynamic between the US and China, what's going on there, China having a massive incentive to get the US bogged down in a war in Iran so that they can then make their move on Taiwan, which is really where I think everybody's eyes need to be.

You can see we talked uh about the um what's going on China's move on gold and trying to get out from under the dollar. We've talked about what China is doing with AI trying to use the open source models to just absolutely crater the revenue potential of AI as the leader in the US stock market uh which is really everything right now in the US stock market is riding on the back of the technology play which is riding on the back of AI. So whether it's because chips are going up or it's directly the AI companies themselves, China's like, "Oh, word.

We're going to use uh the distillation method as a way to come in and crater the revenue potential which is already low uh in the US. We're going to talk about this later today. Man, we've got a deep dive on this. We're going to be talking, if you guys know, Ed Zitron uh is really bearish on AI. He's got some things you don't want to ignore. You're going to want to hear what he says about the AI industry. So if I'm China and I'm like, "Yo, I can drag you guys into this forever war in Iran.

Keep supplying them just enough to keep going, but be hands off, plausible, deniability enough. I'm not sending ships, but I'm letting you get sucked into all that. My real prize is to reunify with Taiwan, which by the way isn't just that we feel the desire to be reunified with Taiwan. It is that we want access to them chips, baby. Them chips. Good luck getting the controls uh the export controls on us when the largest chip manufacturer to the US which is driving so much of what Nvidia is doing is in Taiwan if we have physical control of that.

Uh those chips belong to us and good luck to you getting a hold of those chips and that would just completely flip the script. So it from a strategic standpoint on behalf of China it's pretty smart. Let us get bogged down. Let us just keep pouring money into Iran. Let it be a political distraction. Defang Trump. Make him do everything via executive order. Uh let him lose the will of his own party. Let him lose the midterms. Get a Republican president out in 2028. Get me a nice soft uh Democrat in there so we can get back to just running the table.

And it's a brilliant strategy. Obviously, I hate everything about it, but if you're Chinese, it's brilliant. And Xi, she she somebody in the comments uh is trying to help me, which I appreciate. Apparently, it's not Xi, it's she it's she it's she she. So, my Chinese is non-existent. It is. is. is. Uh so, I'll just assume that that's accurate. So, um, [snorts] yeah, that that is, uh, if you're she, it is a brilliant way to play out the very long-term strategy that you have that you've been running for a long time.

Now, we can easily fractal onto what's going on with she's uh, government and the housing crisis and all of that. Okay, I started all of this because the picture I'm trying to paint for people, especially if you're thinking about the markets, is the the world order is changing dramatically. All eyes on China, all eyes on the US market weakness right now. I'm always very hesitant to talk about what I'm doing because I'm so afraid a that I'm wrong and that people will just ape what I'm doing and then I get walloped, they get walloped.

I'm not looking for that. But by way of my mental model is I'm being more and more paranoid with every passing day that there's just way too much instability and that it's being knowingly egged on by China and that they're doing things specifically to try and weaken our markets. Uh so yeah, I I would this this is a time to be paranoid. So, you've heard me say this before, but in entrepreneur land, one thing that uh CEOs talk about all the time, investors talk about all the time is only the paranoid survive.

Uh, and so I'm certainly bringing that emmo to my approach to the markets despite just being up. Damn. Some clarification from the chat. Are you saying China is behind the war in Iran? Iran? Iran? No. No. No. Okay. They're just like a sponsor. No. No. Trump is behind the war in Iran. Trump was trying to get on Mount Rushmore. Trump was trying to secure all those investment dollars in the Middle East. Trump has long had beef with Iran. That's why, again, I don't think this is about Israel.

Trump has been banging on about Iran since the 80s, man. So, Trump is old enough that he remembers when Iran was Iran was Iran was um taking US people hostage, when we had the uh embassy takeover in Iran, when the Shaw fell. Like, that's all very real for Trump. And so in the 80s this was like way more in the public consciousness where they were hijacking airplanes, they were killing um US citizens. And so that really I think sticks in his mind. So part of it is he wants to be the one that finally has the balls to go in and do what every administration said they were going to do but never did which is stop them from having nuclear weapons.

And it unfortunately is a case of fafo in that yeah, you might be the strongest military in the world, but this stuff never goes according to plan. And so he's got a different kind of if this ends up being like a truly protracted forever war. I will give some credit to the world seems to have moved on from just throwing troops in the mix um and the US sort of being the pinnacle of that. But nonetheless, uh it will bleed you. So, what I'm saying in terms of China is, "Oh, I'm watching Trump and I can't remember.

It may have been in the Art of War, though I'm not entirely sure about that, but there's a very famous quote. This says, "Never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake." So, I think China is advantaged by what's going on in Iran as long as they can deal with their energy concerns. And they do, I think, have very real energy concerns because they were getting, I think, roughly 20% of their oil from Iran. But I'm sure they can find other ways around that, including, by the way, buying from the US, which is pretty wild.

But they like us being drugged into a massive distraction so that they can move on Taiwan. But in no uncertain terms, Trump made this mess for himself. That's a Napoleon quote, by the way. But there's no true primary source according to the internet. So it's one of those apocryphal things that it's a cool sentence, so we're going to keep repeating it. as Churchill said, as uh Sunzu said, as Napoleon said. Yeah. Yeah. Fair. It's still a very smart idea. All right, let's jump over to Rupert Low, who Low, who Low, who And thank you, by the way, for that fact check, Ryan.

Let U who was talking about Lebanon as an example of the I guess Muslimification of the West. Here's where I put my earpiece back in. All right, let's play it. When When When Oh, actually, wait, hold on. Let me set this up for people that don't know. Okay, so uh you got your boy here, Rupert Low. If you don't know who Rupert Low is, he is the head of the Restore Britain party in the UK and they are uh he absolutely despises when people call him uh far right, but that is certainly how uh people on the left see him is that there there's the original far right was um reform Britain.

So you had Nigel Farage reform and then uh Rupert Low was kicked out of that party and goes even farther again he doesn't like this characterization but he goes even farther right and so um he's made a ton of noise on the rape gang inquiry that he ran uh that estimates that 250,000 uh British girls were um uh trafficked and raped uh and that it was all covered up. So anyway, that's really how he comes to prominence. Um, he is I think you could pretty safely say that he's anti-Muslim immigration.

Uh, that he wants to um get I don't I I don't want to put words in his mouth, but the certainly and vibes are dangerous, but the vibe is basically get Muslims out of the country. And so that's how he's come to prominence. So Rogan has him on the show. And with all that, the one that we're going to talk about now is Are you doing the Lebanon one first? Okay. So, um, in this clip, he's talking about what happened in Lebanon. If you guys don't know, Lebanon used to be considered the Paris of the Middle East, but it was predominantly Christian.

Uh, it is no longer known as the Paris of the Middle East. And he's going to explain why. explain why. explain why. Its independence in in 1948. Uh, they were Christian country and they were a very confident country. They they were, you know, they had the best universities. They had a very open society. I never went to Beirut. I don't know if you you went to Beirut, but Beirut in the 60s was meant to be the best place on earth to be. Great wine, uh, freedom, uh, very very enlightened.

Uh, it was a great lots of people uh, uh, were there. The minute that the Muslim population went over about 15%, you started to get a problem with a civil war. You got the Drews and Marinite Christians in a in a Marinite Christians in a in a civil war with with the Muslims. Uh and now Lebanon is is is a Muslim country. Uh uh and Hezbollah backed by Iran is effectively running the show. It's pause for a sec. It it's over. Yay. Um so it is one thing that's pretty interesting is if you watch the um timeline of how Muslims spread out over the region.

It's pretty interesting. I mean listen, ultimately Christians did the same thing. So, if you were a pagan in the Roman Empire time, you might have been just as traumatized to see Christianity spread its way around the region. Uh, if you're Christian, you're probably traumatized to watch the timeline of um Islam take over. Uh, so this is one of those things, these things really do play out and it's just a a reality. So, now the UK obviously is dealing with that. uh in terms of the level of immigration that they have coming into uh the UK.

U to be honest, huge swas of Europe have this same uh issue to contend with. So obviously if you're Muslim, you're probably feeling pretty good about it. It's you see it as the truth. You see it as people's salvation and it's spreading. But the reality is that ideologies go to war uh with each other. Whether it is purely through um proilitizing and getting people to convert, whether it is through that plus birth rates, uh whatever the case may be, but this is going to be something that we have to confront over the next call it 10 to 15 years in just no uncertain terms.

And so it is not going away. Um, and [snorts] hearing about Lebanon, more research is definitely necessary. And, and I'm at the very beginning of my research into Lebanon and what happened there. If you guys know Gad Sad, he's actually Lebanese. He left during one of the civil wars that, uh, Rupert Low is talking about where both Jews and Christians were being chased out of the region. Uh, and so that's why he ends up immigrating to Canada. Um, so it is one of those where I get that there are going to be people on both sides of this and so fair enough.

But this is something that people are going to have to contend with. Culture matters more than basically anything. People will die for and kill for their value system in a way that they won't over most other things. Uh and so it all is going to be the the real question that's going to be asked is does Islam spread by the sword or are they just hey listen we go in um we are true to our faith we try to get people as a part of our faith we believe that it's the right way to live and hey if we end up having the better pitch and we have stronger family values and we have more kids then it is what it is and every country is going to have to ask themselves how like What is the method by which you push back against cultural change in your country?

Or do you push back or do you just let things play out naturally? Uhhuh. So that's where we're at. That's where we're at. And Lebanon, anyway, Lebanon's going to be a flash point. You're going to hear this more and more because Lebanon is one that you can point to modern history. I mean, for somebody my age, it feels like modern history in the '60s. You can see the footage. You can see the videos. because Lebanon looks amazing, beautiful, and now it looks like a war torn country with bullet holes everywhere.

holes everywhere. holes everywhere. One of the big debates around Lebanon is do the Lebanese people want the involvement of Hezbollah or not? Um given that Hezbollah is a they answer to Iran, they do not answer to the Lebanese, there's obviously a lot of debate about that. And this is one of those things that is very hard to ascertain. Same thing with Iran. How what percentage of the Iranian people support the IRGC and what percentage support getting out from under the IRGC? I think it's impossible to know.

Just like in the US, um if you try to paint the picture that we're all leaning to the left or you try to paint the picture that we're all leaning to the right, you're going to be wrong. It just isn't true. We are a nation divided. And so I think it's it is almost certainly far more accurate to say Lebanon is divided about uh what ties they want to Iran, that Iran is divided about the IRGC. Um and as an outsider, I mean even as an insider, trying to ascertain exactly what the split is is going to be difficult.

So um but yeah, expect expect massive propaganda in the coming years. like everybody is going to be fighting for their side. I I think when this what confuses me and I just need to set some base assumptions down is is Rupert Low saying country plus Muslim equals chaos every time every time every time country plus he I think so okay me putting words in his mouth is dangerous and there's plenty of him talking and we can start showing more clips of Rupert Low but Tom's uh interpretation of Rupert Low goes like this like this like this um um um over my dead body Britain has an identity it is very easy to identify who we are what we stand for and um it is Christian values.

We are a Christian nation and we are going to have to push back against people that would have you believe that we either don't have an identity and so why would we ever push back against another religion? We're not a Christian nation to begin with. So he's going to say hard pass. That's [ __ ] Total lie. I'm not going to stand for it. Uh he's also going to he beats the drum. Again, this is my interpretation. uh to really have this, we'd have to show more clips of him talking.

Uh but I think that I'll be vindicated uh that he is saying on a per capita basis that um immigrants full stop stop stop are they uh have crime rates that are much higher. Um and that the collision that's happening in the UK right now is specifically Islamic in nature. I don't know his how careful he is to separate Muslims from Islamists. I don't know if he goes out of his way to do that. Um I haven't seen enough of him to have a mental model there.

Um but the name of the party I think tells you everything. So restore Britain. Restore it to what? Um, I think he's probably gonna peg somewhere in the 60s to 90s when um, white Britons made up something like 78% of the population. I mean, it's just it is a truly overwhelming number and that number is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And when you start looking at the cities like London, then it really I don't know that white Britain's are a minority in London, but I would imagine that number has dropped significantly enough that they can point to stats.

I've seen it before, it just didn't stick in my um memory. Uh that it the drop is startling to be sure. Um and so of course because white gets thrown in there, everybody freaks out. Um, I don't that's not where I'm freaking out. I think I'm freaking out because I thought this was about like the welfare state, but then with the example of like Lebanon, he's saying once Muslim populations reach 15%, their country went to [ __ ] Like they had Christian presidents as far as recent as 1980s.

There's so many other things that leads to the instability of a country. And I'm speaking from experience with Haiti, as in it's this [ __ ] hole and everybody says it's a terrible country and then we remove all the foreign intervention that has happened for the last 100 years. So, it's one of those things. I can look at Saudi Arabia, that's a completely Muslim country that has been prospering and going in the positive direction. So, I think the base assumption that if there's more Muslims in my country, my country is going to [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Does it breaks that for me?

Cuz I can point to Muslim countries that are thriving in a way that other places are. Ray Dalio was chilling in the Middle East chasing capital, so he wouldn't do that if that was a [ __ ] hole nation. So, that's where I'm trying to figure out. Like, I thought it was a welfare state thing, but we're not talking about welfare in this clip. We're talking about just the presence of Muslims period. So, period. So, period. So, well, so in in the full interview, he definitely does talk about welfare.

There there's another clip on that that we should definitely play. But so, if what we're trying to do is okay, we want to lay out what is the full argument. Why are people twigging out about um Muslims entering a country? And if you look, there are Muslim countries where hey, it's beautiful. It's a beautiful people. Why are we tense about this? Um I would say there's two parts three parts of that. So one is the um immigrants what their draw is on the social welfare welfare system.

Um one is a changing of values. So it's in the interim period where the values are being they were one thing and now they're becoming something else and the people that were there that had the value set they're not going to be super thrilled about that. Um, and then you've got the crime problem specifically in Britain where you have two-tier policing. You have um the up to 250,000. What the real number is, the report claims that people say that that's overblown. So, what's the real number?

But by the time that 250,000 is even remotely plausible, you have a real problem. the Henry Noak of it all in terms of again two-tier policing that everybody's so afraid of being called a racist that we're just like letting all of this slide. So you start putting that together and it's it really does create problems if only that the the people a very substantive percentage of people will not want that kind of radical change. Humans don't like change like just full stop. So, this is part of the reason they rebel against AI.

It's part of the reason that they're going to rebel against um having immigrants come into your country. Now, on the Muslim versus Islamist, these are sort of new words that we're starting to use. So, people are careful to say um listen, the if you look at especially the New Testament, there's plenty the Old Testament, excuse me, there's plenty of things like stone gave people to death and all kinds of crazy [ __ ] And it's like Christians had to find a way to come to grips with that.

Um, obviously at one point people's interpretation of the Bible said go to um the Middle East and run the Crusades. And so if you were alive during that time, you'd be like, "What the [ __ ] is going on?" So we had to go through, not we, but Christians had to go through a reformation to chill the [ __ ] out. And they did that. And so right now on a global scale when you hear about acts of terrorism eh it's not predominantly Christian not by a long shot it's predominantly right now Islamists.

Uh so that is where people are going to raise their hand first and say no no no they're responsible for it's like 46,000 attacks over some not nearly long enough period of time. Uh and so people go all right clearly they're the violent ones. And then you talk to Muslims who are like, "Hold the [ __ ] phone, man." Like, "We are a religion of peace. You guys are out of your minds. The vast majority of Muslims are completely nonviolent. You painting us all with this brush is absolute insanity.

What are you doing?" And then that's where, and I'll say this is the Sam Harris read. He was one of the earliest people on this. Um Ion Hersia Ali, I I'm pretty close to her name. I think that's right. Uh she married to Neil Ferguson, the the guy that wrote the book that I'm obsessed with about the Rothschilds. Anyway, uh so she and he really were like trying to um bang a similar drum, which is Islam needs a reformation. So it doesn't make sense to try to villainize all of Islam.

It doesn't make sense to villainize Muslims, but it does need a reformation. And so, you need the just the same way that Christians had to police other Christians and tell them to chill the [ __ ] out and stop running crusades, you need the Muslims who are peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, loving, welcoming, incredible people. You need them to clamp down on the extremism. And the great irony is that some of the things that we we allow in the west, uh, things like the Muslim Brotherhood, which we have outlawed, but not everybody has, um, some of those things in the Middle East, they're like, "You guys are [ __ ] stupid." And there's that clip that I played uh, multiple times before, but there's a guy who I believe is Muslim.

He's certainly living in the Middle East, and he says, "I'm going to say the the next part in English, so there's no mistransation." He said in the future the biggest Muslim extremists will be born in Europe because you guys think you understand the mindset of people in the Middle East and you do not. And so you're not going the implication was you're going to tolerate things you absolutely should not tolerate and you're going to get hammered for doing so. and that now sort of plug Rupert into that and that's he's that um antibbody response in Britain to say no no no we're we're not going to tolerate this now the debate on Rupert is going to be well does he become the monster that he fears is he swinging so far in the other direction is he going to be so draconian that he ends up throwing the baby out with the bathwater and truly peaceful Muslims that have set up a good life in the UK that are wonderful additions to um the local community that they're all going to get tossed out or at a minimum just that the rhetoric he's putting out is so hateful that it just spills over and it becomes like um the Germans after World War II basically everywhere where everyone was just like [ __ ] you man because and they're like hold on I I'm American I I was never over there but you just have the wrong last name and so people now are turning against you.

So that's a lot of the discomfort that's going to play out. So you have a religion that at least from my opinion I buy into the they need a reformation. They need people to come up with ways to either ignore or translate the Quran and the Hadith in ways that minimize some of the strike them in the neck and like all that [ __ ] Um also killing people that want to leave the religion. Not ideal. uh obviously treating women like second-class citizens not ideal. So there's going to need to be some way that they find a path to I if they want to integrate into uh Western civilization.

So that's I don't know. I I I feel like Megan Kelly just went off and snapped on Haitians on her show and was like, "They're not assimilating. They're not doing this. They're not doing that." Haiti is a pim primarily Catholic uh state. Every Haitian I know is Christian. I met him through a church. The we also don't come through with hijabs and we don't treat women as secondass citizens, but in this banner of immigration, we caught the smoke, too. So, I think that while a lot of that stuff sounds good, I think it runs as a cover story of like, nah, we just don't want these people here.

And if it's like you don't want these people here, like say it with your chest. It's okay then. It's not bad. That's how you feel. Like, I don't feel. That's how you feel. Like, I don't judge people for their feelings. Tell me your feelings and I can understand if I want to operate with you or if I don't want to operate with you. But I think right now it's like we're playing gymnastic like, well, we don't like these kind of people because of this. And then the conversation shifts to we don't like these kind of people because of this.

And then before we know it, there's no Muslims there anymore. And it and the whole ethos of is like if you see somebody that doesn't look like you, you have a problem with them. You want them out of your country. Me and you both agree. I think this is an economic problem because the economics are tight. Now we're going to expel everybody that we don't like. So I'll say this one really does it it is fueled by the economics. This one isn't pure economics. Uh the reason being that people will fight and die for their values.

Now people look for a team to be on and somebody to point their anger at in a populist moment like we're in now. That is all economic. So think of it this way. It will be far easier to recruit um recruit um recruit um white nationalists in a time where the economy is shaky. Way easier. But nonetheless, no matter what, even in good economic times, you're going to find that there's going to be push back if there is a conflict of values that's playing out in policy.

So, for instance, you've got I forget if it was in Dearborn, Michigan, it was somewhere um here in the US where um the city council became either predominantly or entirely Muslim and they outlawed the LGBTQ flag. flag. flag. They didn't outlaw the flag. So they outlawed every flag except for like five specific ones. So it wasn't specifically a attack on queer people just for context. context. context. Okay. So Okay. So Okay. So you flagged you could fly the Michigan flag, you fly the US flag, you it was like like like right it was like it was still still an overstep.

Totally. But I think that story gets painted as anti-quer when it was really just they had a specific only these flags can be flown. Okay. So this is um this is a really interesting point that will show how different people parse the world. So this is um if you have my read of this is funny games. Uh I've talked about this before. Watch the movie Funny Games uh where they use social convention against people. You can find plenty of footage of, and I'm perfectly happy to accept that these are super fringe, radical characters way the [ __ ] out on the edge that Muslims would disavow with their full chest.

But you can find plenty of footage of people saying, "We are going to use your liberties against you. We are going to use your um your liberalism against you, but we are not a liberal religion, and when we get power, we are going to shut these things down." Uh, I'm sure you've heard the argument a thousand times about um, you've got queers for Palestine, but Palestine for queers is queers getting thrown off the roof. So, um, that's one where you might say, "No, no, it's never going to play out like that." All I'm trying to say, and I think that there are smart, well-intentioned people that will say, "No, it's not going to play out like that." If you want to know what then plays on a loop in my mind, is the guy in the Middle East going, "You guys think you understand it.

You're [ __ ] fools. You don't get it. if you don't like put strong limits on this, you're going to give birth to more radical uh Islamists than the Middle East is going to. And so that's my mental model. Now, we're going to see over time if that ends up being true or not, but yes, we're going to birth more terrorists in the West than we will in the Middle East. East. East. We just bombed a girl school and killed 300 girls. If that was my sister that got bombed, I wouldn't like America either.

So we keep waving away the the reason that there was mass immigration to the UK in the first place was because of the war on terror. We were in there 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. That's not true. Wait, what was the thing? I had to fact check. I was reading comments. The middle the reason that they were even claiming for refugee was because their countries were destabilized. They were coming from Pakistan. They were coming from Afghanistan. Why not go to a Middle Eastern country that's already majority Muslim?

because I feel like we're still, you know, invading those countries, still bombing those countries versus a more Saudi Arabia is super chill. We're not [ __ ] with Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia just got chilled because they finally kissed the ring for America. Saudi Arabia is going through the same thing in Asia. You were saying, wait, wait, wait. Earlier today you were saying that Saudi Arabia was like, yeah, it's a good place. Well, technically you said the Middle East, but you were talking about Ray Dallio. He's going to a Muslim country because everything's great.

So now you're telling me that these guys won't go somewhere that Ray Dallio will go. That doesn't make sense. Okay. So, let's let's start let's because we're we're playing clock like we're starting the clock today, then we're going to go to the 80s, then we're going to go to So, just like with Lebanon, why isn't Lebanon prosperous today? Are we not going to talk about the things that led to Lebanon where it is or they have to be good now? So, if we're talking about right now, then we can talk about right now.

I won't even bring up Muslim mass immigration. But what I'm going to say is from 10 years from now, the 300 people that we just killed that were little girls, that's going to have ramifications. Yeah, for sure. And that's going to create terrorists. But you the the claim that I responded to that's that has got this beat of the conversation going is that the reason that they came to the UK was because we destabilize our country. And I'm saying that is not true. The reason that they came to the UK is because the UK is a wealthy [ __ ] nation and has their doors wide open and will offer all kinds of um social programs to people that they're not going to get elsewhere.

That's why they've come to the West. I mean there also I mean I'll be really honest like we treat women better for sure. So there are a lot of reasons why they're going to come to the west and is if you said the reason that some people are fleeing their country is because we've destabiliz it. Okay. Yeah, I'll grant you that. But the question is how many Muslim countries did they have to travel through to finally get to Europe? And that's where it's like first of all I mean this this is really going to become its own conversation very very quickly.

Um quickly. Um quickly. Um an area to explore that I have not put enough time to research in. So I'm at the headline level right now. But when you look at the fact that places like Egypt and Jordan won't take in Palestinian refugees that tells you something. So there and then again the people in the Middle East warning if you guys think that you understand the way that radical Muslim manifests or radical Islam manifests you are mistaken and you're going to see that these guys get radicalized on your shore despite the fact that you are trying to welcome them despite the fact that you're giving them things.

It's not going to be met with cool we love it and we're now British or we're now German. Uh, so this is where I will point everybody back to when one of your earlier points which I think is great is there's going to be this emotional response that I just don't want these people here. And if you strip away all the pretty language, it comes down to I just don't want these people here. And so now it's okay, what becomes the read of I just don't want these people here.

If the read is this is just about race, then I think you'll be eternally confused by how things play out. If it is a read of this, these are people that don't share your values, then all of a sudden it's like, oh, that's why when the Irish came to America, you've they could get rejected just as fast. That's why Northern Ireland and Ireland proper can kill each other for hundreds of years despite the fact that they they look the same. They are genetically related. it it it doesn't matter.

They don't share values and they're willing to kill and die for that. So the I understand that it will also get muddied with people who are just legitimately racist. But also, man, if I could get everybody to remember it is so ingrained in the human animal to to do school of fish. We're always going to pot up with people that look like us. Trout, swim with trout. Uh, I wish I knew more fish. Salmon swim with salmon, yada yada yada. Like, they're all going to, you're going to find them all together swimming in their little pods.

And so, it is so ingrained with us. Macaks chill with macaks. Uh, the great apes chill with the great apes. It's just like, it's just the way that it is. Now, humans have invented value system transmission layers known as religion that allows us to ignore that and to pot up based on something else. And so I am still convinced that let's take black and white that a black person and a white person that share a religion, share similar family values, all of that are going to see themselves in the other person far more rapidly than two people that have the same skin color but have diametrically opposed religions.

So that to me just seems self-evident. self-evident. self-evident. But because it's so much easier to see the skin color, I think people get very very confused about what the real issue is. And that's the part that scares me. One, it scares me that people think that just because somebody doesn't want change that they're a bad person. I think that's already stupid. And then that when you see two people colliding over values that you try to make it about race and that just means you won't be able to solve the problem because again, you think it's about race.

So, this is where th this is going to be a very difficult thing for people to parse through. This is going to be one of the most um trying times. I think we'll get on the other side of it. I think all is going to be well, but it's going to be a trying time because [snorts] much like with economics, people confuse the actual root of the problem. In this case, they think it's racism. And by confusing the root of the problem, you will try to solve the problem in the wrong way.

And the way that we are going to have to solve the immigration problem in the US is to state this is what America stands for. Right? Remember when we founded the country, it was all about that. Who are we? What do we stand for? What are we willing to fight for? What are we willing to die for? Write it down. And so we've got to be able to articulate that. And we have completely lost the plot. Hopefully we'll have time later where I can show you the DSA in their own words saying they are trying to destroy America.

So we have we have just completely lost the plot as Americans about what we stand for. They're going through what Rupert Low is trying to point out is they're going through the same thing in the UK. They've lost a sense of what they stand for. A lot of this is an echo of postw World War II where it was like uh we can't like these nation states like this is a [ __ ] problem. We can't have another Hitler. We cannot have this sociopath rise to power telling people to be ultra-gerermans and to lean into their araness and now we're going to be an ethnational state and we're just going to [ __ ] up everybody and steal their land and all of that [ __ ] Uh we don't want that anymore.

We we have to elevate beyond that. We have to get to this global rule. The problem is like I get why people had that impulse especially after World War II but it is not in keeping with the human psyche. And so all of a sudden you realize, oh [ __ ] we have to use violence to get people to um stay under our big globalist thumb. So this is where it's like, man, I'll just keep it to the US for a second. We've got to decide what's our value system.

And then we should only bring in as many immigrants at bring them in at a rate that they assimilate. And if they assimilate into that value system, you will very rapidly find that you don't have a problem with race because everybody's getting on the same page with values. Of course, there are going to be some people that they just cannot get themselves out of a racial paradigm. So, they're always going to see uh life through the lens of race, but the actual underlying thing that will create the continued friction is becoming all these like little isolated groups that end up pulling in different directions.

different directions. different directions. That's when everything goes to [ __ ] So, you want people to draw the biggest circle around the country, whatever country you're in, and say, "I'm American. I'm uh Venezuelan, I'm Estonian, whatever the circle is, you want people to draw that as broadly as we can." Now, we found that people can't, unless we're being attacked by aliens, we're not going to draw something around the whole planet. It just doesn't work like that. Too many people have too many different value systems, too many different ideas about how things ought to be.

And again, people will fight and die over how things ought to be. Yeah. Y'all just don't want the people here. Just say that. We don't have to talk about spin. We don't got to talk about history. We don't got to talk about Muslim. You don't want them here. So, they shouldn't be here. They shouldn't come. Black immigration. Block everybody. Kick everybody out. That makes me sad. That's really um That's a takeaway though. Like that's your takeaway. You're very clear about that. But that is certainly not my takeaway.

Uh that feels like blunt force trauma. trauma. trauma. That's Rupert's takeaway. I was gonna say that's what saying that's Tommy's takeaway. takeaway. takeaway. That's what a lot of chat's saying. That's what Chad is saying. Chad is saying I don't want them here. Well, I'm hiding a lot. But it's a lot of no immigration. Uh Muslims can't be peaceful. I mean, it's America would be nice if it wasn't for [ __ ] hole countries. Everybody's ruining for us. So, that's fine. But that's the thing. If you say that, I understand it and I don't have it.

But it's the well it's because they did this thing in the '8s and if they didn't do this. It's like why are we going through this roller coaster ride of you trying to like finesse me into making it seem like oh logically this is why I don't you just don't want them here. It's like watching the Rupert Low thing. I watched the interview on Joe Rogan and I'm like dude just say you don't like Muslims. Like you don't need to give all this extra to try and and like you know what I I guess that's for a lot of here's where I think you guys are going to run into trouble with taking that stance.

stance. stance. If you don't understand why he is fed up, let's say if you don't understand why he's fed up and you try to brush it under the rug, then you're not going to actually be able to put a solution in place. So, even if you guys, let's just say that you're right and this is racism. You have one of two beliefs. Either racism is incurable and there's nothing we can do to dial it up or down. It just is what it is. Um or you believe that racism can be dialed up and down.

Now, if we believe that racism can be dialed up and down and this is a time where it's dialed up, we should be asking ourselves, what was the mechanism by which it got dialed up? If you think it's quantum randomness, then it just is what it is and nothing matters. If you believe that there's actually a string of cause and effect, then it's like, well, let's find out what are we doing that dialed up racism. Now, personally, I think racism is a uh skin suit that people wear because it gives them uh an easy way to navigate the world and just go, "Ah, if you don't look like me, [ __ ] you.

You're gone." gone." gone." Um, but again, I will just say that currently the idea that you guys are putting forward does not explain Ireland. And if you can't explain Ireland, then I would say you already have something that's invalidated your stance. So stance. So stance. So you you can't explain Ireland. Protestants don't want Catholics. Catholics don't want Protestants for the same reasons that we're talking about now. They're going to the same reason I'm talking about. It has nothing to do with you guys. They're going to point to something that I don't like how you do X because I don't like how you do.

So let's tease let's tease that apart because it's an interesting thing that you're putting on the table. Okay. I see this with Israel Palestine all the time where people are debating the finer points of what happened to who, when, what, where, and all of that. It it's a if people want to interface with it that way, it's fine. The problem is what you will see and I've seen so many of these debates. What ends up happening is if you present somebody with a bunch of information that invalidates their worldview, it doesn't matter.

they will ignore all of it because the only thing that matters is how they feel. So to me, that's like what we have to get to. Uh arguing about it, and I think you and I will agree with this. I'm not yet sure if we agree for the same reason, but we agree that the back and forth debate of all the historical context and all of that, none of that matters. You don't have to do that. The reason I don't think you have to do that is because it is so self-evidently to me a values collision that it's like you can just pick up with, hey, you've got two people that don't share values.

For instance, uh we dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and 40 years later they were um the most powerful economy in the world. And so I don't buy that. Well, but they're being attacked. They they're under a blockade. Doesn't matter. If somebody has like I'm just going to focus on the economy, they will pull themselves out of like dire straits. So literally in the buildup and then during World War II, Japanese people were trained to kill themselves in defense of the emperor. That was it. That was Japan.

They were imperialists to the [ __ ] core. Uh during the reformation of Japan, there were Japanese politicians. In fact, one of them was their president or prime minister, prime minister. Uh for years and he was like any fool who thinks that you can make Japan a democratic nation is fooling themselves. And lo and behold, Japan becomes a democratic nation. So there are you can get a a nation that seems like there's no way that they they're actually going to be able to move forward and they end up moving forward.

So what we have to figure out is what what was it in the psyche of the Japanese and the setup of um having lost a total war uh the way that the US approached helping them reform all of that to say ooh it has worked and people always say don't extrapolate from the Japanese that's lunacy anybody trying to say that is is just saying well the world's so random we could never know [ __ ] I get that Japan is like shocking it's so surprising But in that in the same way that people should be very surprised by the fact that two if you if racism is your paradigm that you can have the Irish fighting against each other just because they interpret a small part of a book differently is [ __ ] crazy.

But it's like just like with physics whatever math you put forward must describe the world that I actually see. Otherwise your math is wrong because I'm in the [ __ ] world. I can describe the world that you see and it has nothing to do with racism, has nothing to do with values. It's power and control. I don't like these people. So, I'm going to come up with a reason and a narrative to tell you why these people are bad. And once I come up with a good enough narrative, everybody's going to hate those people.

Cat Williams said it best. We weren't in Afghanistan killing little babies. Weren't in Afghanistan and killing men. We were killing insurgents. I don't know any insurgents. Y'all don't know any insurgents. I don't get any insurgent homies. We can kill all the insurgents. But if I said I went to Afghanistan and I killed a 45-year-old dad, all the 45-year-old dads are like, "Wait, should we have done it?" If I could say I went to Iran and I killed a bunch of girls, why are we killing a bunch of girls?

But if I say I went to Lebanon and killed a bunch of terrorists, I don't like terrorists either. Let's kill more terrorists. Let's kill all the terrorists. So whether it's the is Irish versus Irish, it's they are bad. They are bad Christians because they did ABCDe E. Muslims are bad people because they did ABCDE. The Japanese is good people because they did ABCDE. It's the same setup. And all you have to do is just change the ABCDE to who you're talking about. What country, what neighborhood, what territory, what religion, what ethno state, what race, what class.

It it's the same thing. All you have to do is say create a narrative, tell them why the other people are bad, call them something other than what their actual identity is, and then all of a sudden they're the bad guys. bad guys. bad guys. Where where I'm trying to get you is every time I try to go back down to what is the core um cause of the problem, you'll jump up to a true thing, but isn't the core problem. So people will use propaganda, bear with me, people will use propaganda to convince people that they're right.

Totally agree. But propaganda is not the cause. It's the it is a tool that people use to manipulate other people. Um the question becomes since we both agree that a bad economic time makes people easier to manipulate, then it's like, oh well then this isn't about the propaganda because there are times where the propaganda works and there's times where the propaganda doesn't work. So the question becomes why? What is that thing? And what I'm driving towards is that thing is a feeling. So now the question becomes what drives that feeling.

Now as I push down that road it my mental model of view is that you're going to default to race which is why I keep bringing up Ireland. I don't think that's that's I perfect. So I'll let that go. You're not worried about racism at all. Yes. So then it becomes well if propaganda is an echo. It's something that comes much later. It is a tool of power. If you're saying, "Look, the the core of the universe is just power dynamics." Um, I don't think that idea survives contact with Christianity.

First of all, and since I know that you're a Christian, I doubt very much that I disagree. There's power dynamics in the Bible. There's power dynamics in the So, let me build a mental model of it. So, at the bottom of everything is power dynamics. dynamics. dynamics. Yes. Yes. Yes. Observance. Observance. Observance. Um meaning in every human interaction it is will you do what I say or not can I get this person to do something and can yes exchange and it's transactional. Yes. I don't think that's how it should be.

Well hold on exchange and transaction is very different than uh power dynamics which is ultimately about domination. So what we see playing out in the Middle East negotiation through warfare that really is about imposing your will. But when a um husband is interacting with his wife, it is you're trying to protect the long-term stability of that relationship because that relationship is so advantageous to you that like I could overpower my wife every time. I could make her do everything that I want in the short term every time without fail.

However, I would destroy the relationship and she would either break as a human and just become subservient and be like a pet, in which case I no longer get what I want out of the relationship. Um, or she's going to leave. And so I am, even though I have a power move that I could use, I'm trying to build a relationship that is pure, that's equal. And because in that kind of dynamic there is something far more beautiful and useful which is in in the reformed version new testament Christristian Christian Christianity.

Um that's the dynamic that I see at play. You you are a flawed person. You are fallen and I'm going to sacrifice myself for you and I'm not asking for anything in return. Uh, I'm I'm going to do it for people that died long ago, for people that are alive now, for people that will exist in the future. And given that I think that's an allegory, I think that is man trying to understand this thing called love. Now, from an evolutionary lens, I get what that is.

Um, but we can you get what love is through evolutionary lens. What is love through evolutionary lens? evolutionary lens? evolutionary lens? It's cooperation. It's cooperation. It's cooperation. If I'm going to sum it up in a word, it's cooperation. So it makes sure that you cooperate with your um partner to raise a child. It's uh cooperation. Nature has to make sure that you look after your child even if it means sacrificing yourself. It's cooperation of the group because you're far safer in a part of group than you are on your own.

So I need given that we are an emotional creature first and foremost. I need you to feel something positive towards the group so that you will do that. I need you to feel something positive towards your child so that you will do that. And so given that that's baked into humans, they're looking at a world where they will murder somebody else that threatens the group, but they will also give their own life to protect their child. And they have to explain that to themselves. They have to explain why that compulsion is so strong, why they would ever do that.

And in that grasping, one of the explanations is Christianity. To be loved by the father so much that he would give his only begotten child, which is also himself, to you so that you may be forgiven for all of your flaws. It is like the perfect way to explain to yourself why you love your child so completely. And in that moment, you realize, oh [ __ ] I am both the parent and the child. [ __ ] This is the most amazing thing ever. And it's a religion. And the reason I really believe despite thinking it's an allegory, it is the greatest story ever told because it is the thing that taps into love, which is I think ultimately far more powerful than hate.

Though I'm going to give a speech for the advantages of hate here in a second. It it leans in and breathes life into this thing that sits inside of people, love, that will make them do the most incredible things, fight for the person next to them, raise their child, make all these sacrifices. Okay. Why is love more powerful than hate? The reason that um love is more powerful than hate, first you have to understand why hate is so useful. Anybody that doesn't understand the power of the dark side is is missing a trick.

When you are at your absolute lowest and you just cannot move forward another step, the thing that's going to make you rise up, I don't think is going to be love. It's going to be hatred. And in all of the times where I was just fatigued beyond all measure, I needed to fill myself with rage in order to get back up and to keep moving forward. You don't have to watch uh too much anime to see this play out over and over and over where you do what's known in anime as a limit break.

And so you hit this limit, you're broken, you couldn't go any further. And you could certainly say it's an act of love because the person is fighting for somebody else. But in that moment, the thing they're doing is training their rage on somebody and they get more angry and they light on fire and they do all that. And I think again, it's a phenomenal allegory for what it actually feels like. And in that moment, you need to take that person out. You fill your heart with rage and you go after them and you kill and you claw and you do whatever the [ __ ] it takes to win, including, you know, if you're you yourself are broken and you know you'll never be the same on the other side of this fight, you still do it.

And the reason that that is extremely powerful and people should know that they have that gear. But also recognize that it's not nearly as powerful as love is because it is costic. Meaning it hurts the person who wields it. And when you lean into that, it is going to take something from you. And so I always tell people, listen, understand that it's there. Make sure that you can reach for that when the moment calls for it, but also understand that it's going to hurt you also.

And so getting back to the love, which is expansive, which I mean, even if I were to break it down into biology, when you're angry and you're constricted and you're constantly in that mode, it's terrible for your blood pressure. When you do what's called loving meditation, where you imagine a bubble extending out beyond you, first to your family and then to your friends and then to the neighborhood and then to the world, it lowers your heart rate. lowers your blood pressure. It's actually physiologically better for you.

So, I'm not even saying this stuff in a woo woo sense. Anger is literally going to shorten your life, though it has its uses. Love is literally going to extend your life. And so, getting people to understand that power dynamics are so real and it's so easy for us to slip into in any exchange that this is really just about acquiring power. However, there is a thing called the infinite game where to play it well is to get the other person to want to play. And even like puppies and rats, if you watch the strongest one fight, it will intentionally lose.

Uh it's like 30% of the time or something, it will intentionally lose enough to make the other one want to come back and play. So even at times where you could just impose your will constantly at all times, it is unwise to do so because it makes so many enemies and it's just such a negative costic place. We got some super chats. Yes, we do. Three to go. Marushia Dark says, "I've noticed a lot of content creators and salespeople have high almost manic energy. Is this necessary for success?

And how does one go about learning this, particularly for things they're not passionate about?" Man, this is a hard right. Uh, okay. So, being outgoing is an easy way to capture the energy in a room and to get people to focus on you. Um, so I imagine that given all of us are, you know, a thousand different traits with, you know, 100 degrees of amplitude. Uh, that the people that end up doing well in sales tend to be athletes. They tend to be good-looking. uh they tend to be gregarious because it is a way to be the person that people are already looking at, to be somebody that people want to be, to be easy on the eyes, all of that stuff.

And so they're trained over time that the more they push their personality into the room, the more they can capture people's attention and walk them down a salesunnel of whatever, whether you're just trying to convince somebody of something to go on a date with you or whatever, or you're actually trying to sell a product. Now, if you're if you don't have that temperament, then it can be a bit grading uh when you see somebody that's quote unquote always on. Uh so, I certainly understand that hesitation, hesitation, hesitation, but that's probably why.

You don't have to be, but that's why they often are. Hunter Hunter and Emily Moore says, "I wonder if you have ever thought about debt versus assets. If everything got paid back, what who would own what? There were assets before the central bank started printing with interest. So, how did things shake out after? Uh, it's the how did things shake out after that? I'm not sure. So, um, you want a system where you can create new money, but in a way that is tied to something.

So, for instance, gold is inflationary, but it inflates by about 2% a year. And it has a natural limit on it which is uh the rate at which you can extract it from the ground and just the amount that actually has shown up here because keep in mind it comes from exploding stars that then rain down on the earth uh over extraordinarily long periods of time. Same thing if you're building a video game. You realize that you want players to feel like they're getting rich. Rich in what?

It could be if you're playing Minecraft, it could be rich in iron, could be rich in diamonds, whatever. But you want them to be able to inflate that supply so that they can find a way to get more of that thing. So it isn't that the idea of creating more of the thing is bad. It's that it can never be created at a rate that is higher than new goods and services coming into the field. And that's the part that people do they just don't understand.

And when you try to explain to them that money printing actually is fine, but you would have to keep it in perfect balance with new things that people want to buy. And that's next to impossible. And the government has no interest in doing that. They have they want to um promise you free things, make everything more expensive over time, even though things should actually get cheaper over time. Uh so that they can advantage themselves with a quest for power. um by leveraging people's economic ignorance against them.

Now whether that actually answered the question you precisely asked is uh I'm not entirely sure. But the think of it this way, gold was always inflationary, but the rate made life way better. better. better. Currency when you're a reserve currency, you can inflate it at a rate that's just hyperdestructive. Debt is awesome. Debt is how you have the modern world. Um it is only that people can't keep it in check. It's a bit like saying um processed food is amazing but if you eat too much of it you become obese and it kills you in a totally different way.

And so people have to have a healthy relationship with food. We need a healthy relationship with money and assets and that we do not have. Big Diglers says nationalism has only been seen in the negative form. Hitler's rage at the stranger. In seeking to never repeat this mistake, we assumed all nationalism equals bad, but forgot the good form, love of one's own. We need love of own. We do. Uh I think nation states are best understood as um when you get together in a group, you can fight back against nature and you can fight back against waring tribes.

I understand everybody wants to believe that the better angel of our nature will rule, but they do not. And so the way that you protect yourself from the um in-group outgroup tendencies of humans and the fact that we will go all the way to murdering people with no problem if we think that they're outgroup um is to have an ingroup. So while I don't love that we can't just be one big happy family, we can't be until we change our genetics. And so we have to address that reality.

And that's where I think people get delusional is they act as if um well just because it ought to be this way that it actually is that way. And so we're dealing with the world the way that we want it to be not the way that it actually is. Um, and so if we want to reanchor to where all of this started, which maybe we shouldn't, but if we brought it back to immigration, uh, Muslim immigration, it that's where this becomes a question of, okay, well, if you're a group, like for instance, if I went to Japan, would I actually force myself to become Japanese or would I secretly want Japan to become a little more American?

And that's the danger of immigration. immigration. immigration. um question about that because there's a lot of people in the chat saying white people aren't allowed to love white people. Why do you think white people aren't allowed to white like be proud to be white? be white? be white? We're just in a super weird place where Europeans were so successful, colonized so many places, cut off hands to get some extra gold, uh enslaved, imprisoned, imprisoned, imprisoned, all of that. And by the way, even though the transatlantic slave trade, I would argue, is not the um biggest slave trade that ever existed, people start getting weird about, okay, yeah, but it was the most brutal, blah, blah, blah.

So anyway, you can correct. And so you can get very deep into that, but I would say uh we certainly weren't the only ones that ran a slave trade. Um everybody did it always and forever. Um it might be it it's in competition with prostitution for uh the oldest thing that humans do. So we have enslaved long before we had the word slavery, it's it's just what you do anyway. Uh so the fact that when people of two just diametrically opposed skin tones do it, it's already just so easy to point at and so easy to look at.

But I do think this comes back to America. Stop teaching its values. stop saying what we stand for. It gave up on a positive myth mytholization. Good lord, I'm having a stroke. You get the word. Um, we should mythologize things in a way that makes people more um makes them happier, makes them more productive, uh, creates greater unity in my opinion. So, we stopped doing that. Uh, the schools got taken over. I hate when something breaks left, right, but truly uh the school system breaks left in a massive way.

Um and so you get all of this of this of this breakdown of mythology, a new mythology coming up that is very anti- European, anti-white, then the Nazis do not do you any favors uh by expressly making it about white, which is hilarious because European Jews are from where I'm sitting, they're [ __ ] white. Uh but nonetheless, you put all of that together and now you've got a problem where um even though on a global scale white people are a pretty small minority, uh they were just too [ __ ] successful.

So too successful and historically did things that truly are aborant. Uh you put that all together in a pot and it becomes okay to be racist against white people right now. Uh, and it becomes super weird as a white person to be like, I love white people. Um, and then also growing up in a white country that certainly in my neighborhood growing up I and I think truly America was predominantly white my entire youth. I not sure if we are in America still uh more than 50%.

So I'm going to have to Ryan would have to fact check that. Which thing? Sorry. Um, white people certainly are not the majority in Los Angeles, but I think around America, maybe we still are. Don't know. Anyway, um, that because white people account for 58 to 60% of the US population. Okay. So, um, I growing up had no sense of other white people are like me. That was it was just there were too many of them. They made up too much of the population. So you hear about black people giving the nod when they see another black person.

White people don't do that at all. Uh just because you're around it all the time. So you're constantly differentiating against other things. If I saw somebody had a one piece uh shirt on, they're getting a nod for me for I don't care what ethnicity. So that also leans into it. like when you're in an already majority country of that and you're that becomes part of your identity. I don't know, there's something unusual about that. Uh, and so you're probably grouping up around something else. Um, yeah.

Anyway, that's me thinking through that in real time, but it's something like that. like that. like that. And last super chat comes from Jeff aka Mike. Beautiful speech on hate and love, man. man. man. Thank you. Thank you. That's a first. And by the way, when people do a super chat to say nice things, that really is not lost on us. So, it's very kind. Appreciate it much. All right, moving on. Um, yeah. Um, somebody asked me, "How would I feel if there was a white entertainment television or if there was a white award show?" And I was like, "You just described Sundance and CMT." That's That's exactly what I'm talking about.

about. about. Oh, you didn't hear. Dang it. Oh, man. That's exactly what I'm talking about with when you grow up in a country that's predominantly that already, it there's something strange about it cuz you're already I really do think um representation matters. Maybe we shouldn't uh see anything self-reflective in just our um literal skin color, but we do. And so I understand why somebody loves seeing themselves in media. Um, so yeah, I've never had beef with like I grew up in the height of BET Network and all that stuff.

I don't have beef with that. Um, and I don't think for myself I see me reflected back to me all the time. Now I might feel differently in Japan. Like when you go to Japan, you watch commercials. Um, and it is there's just no quote unquote white representation, but I'm like, "Yeah, it's [ __ ] Japan. Why would I expect that?" Uh, so but I would get it like if you grew up as a kid and you were a minority in your country and you finally see somebody that you a character you think is cool and they look like you, I get why people be would think that's cool.

So, um, yeah, I don't I don't see the push back. All right, we talked about this earlier about the DSA talking about destroying America and capitalism from within. This is from a few of their members around the world. Let's around the country. Let's hear it from their own mouth. And you know we have a unique responsibility to act from the from the heart of empire the belly of the beast that the most important thing that we can do is is take that empire down from within.

within. within. Our role ultimately is to to facilitate our own empire's failure in ways that we can ultimately to overthrow our own empire. empire. empire. Imperialism is US imperialism is not a thing that can be reformed away. it it has to be uh overthrown through revolutionary struggle revolutionary struggle revolutionary struggle and to build a mass movement that can use the leverage of workers to hit the kill switch on American imperialism here within the American empire. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. And there's one more. We're not here to make the Democrats a little bit better.

We're not here to like get the little crumbs. We're here to actually enact socialism. And socialism is not just better capitalism. is overthrowing an entire the entire capitalist state. We're not here to We're here to overthrow the entire capitalist state. capitalist state. capitalist state. Yeah. Yeah. If you listen to the DSA in their own words, which is great because there's plenty of people now um going on these Zooms and stuff and getting these recordings, but it it's wild. They hate America. They want to see it torn down and they are playing funny games again.

At some point we're gonna have to show like a still or something from that movie. But um they're playing funny games using the Democratic Party as a skin suit to ape the words and to get people to think, "Oh, no, no, this is fine. They're just looking after the workers." There's no bigger enemy to the working class than the DSA. Uh just you you want something said from full chest, there it is. Uh the DSA is a um Marxist Leninist group that wants to see the American system torn down.

the the very system that has given you um the greatest reduction in poverty the world has ever seen. Like it's so wild. Somebody was tweeting on um X yesterday and could not help myself uh but chime in about communism and they were like basically oh here we go again. Somebody talking positively about capitalism but look at what China's done. That that one is so like tell me that you're [ __ ] without telling me you're [ __ ] If you talk about China using communism to help people, you are in all capital letters [ __ ] Get on the short bus immediately.

Never get off because they turned literally to America and said, "Hey, teach us about your banking system. Teach us about your VC system so that we can use it the same. Uh, China has more income inequality than the US." Uh, and if anybody wants to see because I said research it in the post and then somebody said I did research it and they showed me a graph that basically uh Xiinping himself uh made there's plenty of people that have debunked the way they under reportport everything at the high end trying to make their numbers look better.

uh the most respected voice in the globe of trying to figure out exactly uh what somebody's income inequality looks like has said many times you can't just take the world bank data on this because China under reports and the more likely number is I think 45 to 47 and he's quite conservative there are other people that push it up into the low 50s the US is 41.8 eight. So anyway, uh remember even China says we're communism with Chinese characteristics, which means we're communism in name, but we use free markets with authoritarian rule.

So, and it's like honestly what they do with the markets where they do like it's all competition using the free markets to compete to find out who the winners are, but they'll organize capital and point it at things. And when it works, it works very well. when it breaks, then you get what we're seeing in China right now, which is they are in the process of um destroying um destroying um destroying 20 trillion dollars of household wealth. It's [ __ ] insane. So, and of course people are going to say, "Well, hold on.

We've gone through all of these terrible periods and our economy is broken." Yes. And it's broken because of all the contraventions of true free market capitalism. It's not broken because of capitalism. The way capitalism breaks is somebody gets so good at it that if you don't have government to stop them from forming a monopoly, they end up monopolizing everything and then they abuse the customer. It has its pathologies. You can protect against them. But the way that you protect against that is not to go in the opposite direction and starve people to death.

And I know people want to meme it, but that's just what happens. You break the price signal. It becomes impossible to know what to make. You get a dumbass that tries to tell everybody where to put their time and energy, and you quite literally starve them to death because you can't figure out fast enough because it's not decentralized what crop should be planted, what people want, uh letting people do different things in different regions, letting everybody run different experiments. Once you break that, you're in an fragile position.

So, um, yeah, I'm not saying that faux communism with Chinese characteristics doesn't have its advantages. There are times where it's going to work much better, but it creates a vulnerability that I'm saying the reason that America has thrived as long as it has because until recently, we had managed to stay away from the worst abuses of being the uh, reserve currency. And now what you're seeing is that abuse is coming home to roost. But that is breaking the free markets, not leveraging the free markets. markets.

markets. The one thing that the DSA has to actually like come to Jesus with about is we need to talk about their foreign investment. I have a friend who's in a socialist uh collective. I don't know what they're called. I don't want to I don't want to outer coven. um coven. um coven. um the they had like a national meeting and there was a internal conflict because one side wants to call China a certain style of communism and call out their like racial injustices and stuff like that cuz you know there's the concentration camps and all the stuff we don't talk about that China does.

And then on the other side like the main uh leadership was like no China's capitalism or communism they're ally we can't like criticize China. So it's kind of like a a gag policy to Exactly. And I was just like, "How do y'all get funded?" And she's like, "Oh, oh well, I think there's some." And then like that's when the And I was like, "Oh, okay." So there are like we have to be very honest about this. Um while I love capitalism with a little bit of socialism sprinkled on top, the DSA is being foreign backed and we have to be honest about that.

Um also their policies are guaranteed to destroy America. Guaranteed. It's not a maybe. We've run this like a thousand times. I do not understand. People think that somehow the past is not predictive. You run an experiment for a reason. Failure is perfectly fine. Hey, I get it. It sounded like a great idea. So, we ran the experiment not once, not twice, not three times, four times, five, God knows how many times. We have run this experiment. It doesn't work ever at any time. So, that's where I'm just like, Jesus Christ.

Remember, when did China turn to free markets? After starving 45 million people to death. Okay, that's a pretty big wakeup call. Now, you might keep the name communism, but about the time you've starved 45 million people to death, I think we can officially say we're going to have to do something different. And who did they turn to? America. Free markets. Ah, it is maddening. Now, this is one of those things. This is why I beat to death that it matters that you identify the actual cause of the problem.

It is not enough to have something that feels like it's the cause of the problem, but really isn't. And with that, I want you to cue up Gary's economics. So, uh, I'm building a Mount Rushmore of my economic villains. Gary's economics is definitely on the Mount Rushmore of my, uh, my economic villains. Mom, Donnie is on that. Uh, the DSA in general just gets their own thing. But um I want to honor Gary first because I am so aware of Shod and Freuda where people like seeing bad things happen to um their rivals and I much prefer to think of Gary as a worthy rival because he is very good at capturing the spirit of what people feel.

And I'm willing to extend to Gary that he is, even though he is an economic villain truly, um, he's unintentionally an economic villain. I don't think he has anything but good intentions. I think Gary actually wants to help people. I just think that Gary processes the world emotionally and that's created a problem. But to give you the context, Gary's Economics dropped a new documentary. It's obviously on wealth tax. That's like his signature policy. But even the left-leaning Guardian called it an embarrassment. And I while I am glad that the documentary has um been panned even by the left, I really um I don't take joy in Gary going through something difficult.

I'm sure this will be very stressful for him. He's trying to do from his position. I bet he's trying to do something beautiful. Um so I get it. That's never fun to go through. However, for the health of the world, people have to understand why his ideas are absolutely terrible. All right, Gary Stevenson is his real name. If you guys don't know him, he's a YouTuber. He's a former City Bank trader. And as I was saying before, he's on my Mount Rushmore of unintentional economic super villains um for his unwitting crimes against the working class who are the very people he's trying to help.

and they are the people that will be hurt by his policies. Now, he's considered by many to be the UK left's favorite economist. He's actually advising the government, which is terrifying to me. And he just launched his 90minute uh Channel 4 prime time documentary to make the case for his signature policy, which is a 2% annual tax on wealth above $10 million. The reviews are gnarly. Now, I to be honest, I'm surprised by that because he's been saying this stuff for years. Um, if you guys didn't see the debate on DOAC between him and uh, Daniel Priestley, it is awesome.

And Daniel Priestley made all the arguments that you hear in the documentary. But nonetheless, Gary did not update his mental model because he really feels something and whatever he's going to say, it has to match the feeling, which is an absolutely abysmal way to go through life. Avoid it at all costs. Now, the doc somehow appears to have woken up even the people that were on his own side. The Guardian said, this is a quote. Uh, it's quote a faintly embarrassing waste of time. The Telegraph said he looked quote embarrassingly out of his depth.

Richard Murphy, who's a left-wing tax campaigner who has spent years arguing wealth should be taxed more, called the film deeply embarrassing. Again, that's a quote. and warned it may have set back the very cause it was made to advance. Uh the centerpiece everybody's looking at is Stephvenson's exchange with a guy named Dan Needle. I believe that's how it's pronounced. Um he's a labor, again, this is leftwing. He's a labor affiliated tax lawyer. So he's not a friend to conservatives. And Needle himself in the documentary right to Stephvenson's face calls the wealth trap uh sorry the wealth tax populace clap trap and that it would drive out the very foreign investment that Britain desperately needs.

Let's play that clip. Oh uh uh I'm just kidding. I had it. So my proposal is a 2% tax on world. So again, if you map Gary as somebody who's processing the world emotionally, but this feels so right, it feels like a thing that's going to help people instead of um trying to go, "Oh, this is a guy that's interfacing with cause and effect." It's just mapping him based on emotion, he'll always make sense. Mapping him based on somebody who really sees the truth of how this is always going how it's actually going to play out.

And then you start doing the research for yourself and you're like, "Hold on." Even the people closest to this problem are saying this isn't going to work. Even the people that are incentivized to get this done are like, "Yeah, just like a straight wealth tax isn't going to work." And there are more interviews in the documentary of people pushing back and saying, "Look, I this isn't going to work for this reason, that reason, whatever." Um, it just this is the one that really caught people's attention.

But again, uh, leaning into the shod and frea of it if you are like me and don't like Gary's message at all, uh, is a mistake. But really trying to get people to understand why I get why this feels good. I get why people are worried about um the inequality. But by the way, to be honest, in the UK, inequality isn't increasing. It's been static for I think more than a decade. So um the UK has a slightly different problem than the US. I've talked endlessly about what has happened to inequality in the US and exactly what you need to do to fix it.

Uh none of which is a wealth tax. Wealth tax is how you break the engine of prosperity. So if you uh have a car and the car is running fantastically and your um idea of how to fix the car is to shoot the driver, uh that doesn't make any sense. If your idea of how to fix the car is to blow a hole in the carburetor, that doesn't make any sense. It's like you you've got to say, okay, the car and the driver are exactly how we get to where we want to be.

And so what is it that we do to make this a smoother ride or whatever? uh not to torture the analogy, but you really have to look at we've got this thing that creates prosperity. Something is going wrong, but is the thing that's going wrong the actual engine of prosperity, or is it things that we're doing to the engine of prosperity that create the problem? And and even though I've said this a million times, just to not let this be in the abstract, the problem is that we do not balance our budget.

We have deficits. Those deficits must be paid for. The way that they are paid for is via money printing. That is what breaks the engine of prosperity because it means you can't save your money. It means you must buy assets which the vast majority of people do not understand well enough to either do well or do in any significant quantity. So right now 10% of people and 93% of the assets. So it's like you have to get to the underlying cause which is the inflation due to money printing.

It is debts and deficits that get out of control. And by the way, that flywheel goes so hard. You get to the point where as a government, you are spending so much money on the interest on that debt that all the very things that you want to do to help people, you can't do. And by the way, 47% of the US federal budget goes to social programs already right now today. What number are we trying to get to? That is [ __ ] crazy. We people do not have a realistic view.

We think we're some insane capitalist society that does not take care of its own people. We have doubled the budget in the last 10 years almost. We have 47% of our budget goes to social programs. This [ __ ] is wild. We if we actually want to help the working class, we've got to deal with disempowered workers, globalism, inflation. If you do that, the 85% of your problems are solved. Um, a lot of people in chat. This is not me. There's a lot of people. Yeah, cuz I'm next to you.

I heard this conversation from a thousand different directions. directions. directions. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. But a lot of people are like, "Of course Tom's going to be against it. It's going to directly impact him." They're seeing rich guy says no more taxes are bad. So they they they say as soon as you open your mouth, they're like, "Of course Tom doesn't like it. It's going to affect him." So all the things that you just said that were valid points, they completely wipe those all away. So like for the record, you're not against taxing.

you're not against like I want to make sure you set those uh base assumptions down so that way people can maybe they're still not going to believe me. I'm happy to to run through the exercise. They won't believe me uh because the wealth tax would affect me. Uh but I will say this, you don't have to believe me. Just follow the chain of logic. And so I welcome criticisms of my thinking because it gives me something to go explore and find out. Okay, am I wrong about this thing?

Let me adjust my thinking. Um, if you need to. So, that that would be the way to go through this. Forget that I'm the one saying it. Just follow the the logic chain, right, of why that would break the engine of prosperity. And if there's any part in my chain of logic that feels unclear or I'm making an unfair jump, let me know. I'll happily go through and further explain that area. um the real goal like even if you just need to believe the only thing that you can believe coming out of my mouth is something that's selfish then let me say it from a selfish perspective I sell to the middle class so I don't get anywhere if the middle class isn't thriving so I get way richer in an economy where the middle class is thriving and I get put into a really dicey situation when the middle class is hollowed out and people show up with pitchforks So even if you just want to like you you want to go to well what's his emotion so I know whether I can trust him because I've given you my chain of logic why it's bad for the working class but now just to the emotional part I want to live my entire life in America.

I want to make video games and uh comic books and tell stories and that's never going to work if there isn't a thriving middle class. And so I even though the vast majority of the time I'm not thinking about it from my perspective, I really to earn my own respect I need to do something positive for the group. Um I have not had kids so I didn't make that contribution. So I actually do feel a sense of moral obligation to do something that is advantageous for the group.

Uh whether it's good for me or not. Now it also happens to be good for me if I can get the worker reempowered. if I can get um the middle class actually making money, real money, real improvements in wealth, because I look back at the 50s and 60s and go, "Ah, that's an example of how you get out from under the debt, everybody feels awesome, the world feels fantastic because people are getting richer day after day." Uh so anyway, th those are the two ways you can follow my chain of logic or you can understand why it's actually better for me if the middle class is thriving.

Oh, hope that gets them. It won't. There it is. They have it. have it. have it. Uh, okay. There was something else that I wanted to get. Yes. By the way, hold really fast. If I sold yachts, I would understand why you guys were bitter. I sell a video game that will probably be $14.95. Okay. Uh, I sell a course to entrepreneurs that want to start a business that is [ __ ] dirt cheap. So, I It's not like I haven't heard the arguments, if you want to make money, sell to wealthy people.

I get it. I especially now that is a winning strategy that a lot of people have deployed and I don't do it for a reason. The reason that I walked you through. All right, we got the Spencer Pratt video queued up. Um I know this one's a bit longer though, so I didn't know if there was a specific section or you want to kind of stop started and just get it jumped off. jumped off. jumped off. Yeah, we we probably just won't go through through the whole thing.

But here, let me set it up really fast. Okay, so what you're going to hear is Spencer Pratt is admitting that he's giving up on his campaign. uh that people don't want him to. But he's like, "Look, there's a smart way to do this in a dumb way." And he's trying to reorient people to that maybe this isn't um that they're doing anything illegal. Maybe what this really is is that they've created a legal system that allows them to uh basically control the outcome of the election.

So whether it's illegal or not, it should be because ultimately the choice of who we elect has been taken away from us. All right, with that in judicial ethics, the mere appearance of potential fraud is disqualifying. Same goes here. Whether or not there is widespread fraud occurring, there certainly could be. And it doesn't matter how many times you scream there's no widespread fraud. A lot of people believe there is, and there's no way to actually validate it. This isn't just about whether or not fraud is swinging the election.

The appearance of fraud already is swinging the election. People rightly have zero faith in this janky, inefficient system. They feel like their vote isn't being counted. They feel like illegal ballots are being cast and they're not wrong to worry about it. There's literally no safeguards in place to prevent that from happening and way too many openings for it to occur on a massive scale. You all saw how I was neck andneck with Karen Bas on election night. Nearly double digits ahead of Nthia, just as the polling predicted.

Ramen fighting tears on election night, trailing Spencer Pratt by roughly 40,000 votes and about 10 percentage points. I dominated the in-person vote. I smashed Nthia on the mail in ballots, too. She was crying on election night. It was over. Then a few days later, suddenly Nithia started overperforming as they continued to accept ballots 7 days after the election. election. election. But days of county mail and ballots have changed the map. I'm so grateful. Ramen has now erased a 40,000 vote deficit and moved ahead of Pratt by roughly 3,000 votes.

A net swing of more than 43,000 votes. 43,000 votes, which just happens to be the exact number of homeless people on the streets in LA. They assured everyone that this that this that this that one that's probably not a direct link maybe, but that one feels like a bit of a stretch to me. But what is interesting is the fact that for a long time people have said, "Listen, there's uh what's known as a red mirage." So Republicans, for whatever reason, vote the day of or ahead of time.

Um and then what you get are all of these, sorry, Republicans vote the day of. Democrats vote ahead of time via mail and ballots and they take a long time for those to be counted. And so you can think that the Republicans are actually off to a lead, but they're not. This is just the way that the Democratic voters vote. And I always thought, why would that be true? That seems very strange. So, first of all, I'll call [ __ ] on that. I don't think that's actually accurate.

Uh, I have a feeling that it should advance both parties in exactly advantage both parties exactly the same. There's no like fundamental difference in personality between the Democrats and Republicans that would make them do that. But anyway, it becomes basically impossible to explain when, oh, it isn't just that Democratic voters uh vote more ahead of time by mailin ballot. It's that only Nithia Ramens are the third place candidate when they need to bump somebody else out. That's where this starts to get like very questionable. All right, let him continue.

Right, I just wanted to put this on the table for the context of the video for chat specifically. chat specifically. chat specifically. Pratt finished the LA race with 25.5% of the citywide vote. Trump got 26.5 in the 2024 election. I just think that's an important stat to lay out there because I feel like it disproves any form of fraud on this. But anyway, sorry, I don't understand that. How does it disprove fraud? Well, so a lot of what the news stories with this is well Pratt didn't get certain votes counted.

He didn't he's like all these different things like Robin cheated and all this stuff and it's like I understand wanting to be wary of voter fraud, but he he was basically onetoone with Trump's votes. Right. Well, so um Pratt will make the argument himself, but I'll tease a little bit. He's saying if you recount all the votes, what you're going to find is that they they've all been counted correctly. correctly. correctly. And so that isn't the problem. The problem is that you're creating all of these possible moments for ballots to be harvested, for um people to go to like the homeless and say, "Hey, I'll pay you $2," which they've been seen on camera doing.

Uh they've had people admit that this was done that they offer them a couple bucks to fill it out and then they tell them what candidate to put. Well, those were for ballot measures, the things you're talking about. No, no, he's talking specifically about Nithia Ramen. Anyway, we'll let him say it. Um but and I've seen the footage myself of people saying specifically they told me to vote for XYZ person. This is normal because for some reason that they can't explain, Democrats overwhelmingly vote by mail.

There's a historical phenomenon in national voting called the red mirage. The red mirage. what we were calling a red mirage. red mirage. red mirage. The red mirage. Red mirage. This this term was coined because as some swing states count votes, usually favoring Republicans early. Then it becomes an advantage for Democrats later in the evening and then into the next morning. You expect to see the Republican with a lead, but it's not really a lead. Democrats vote in higher numbers by a mail-in ballot. Historically, Democrats vote in higher numbers by mail and ballots.

ballots. ballots. But not all Democrats. Just the ones who were voting for the third place candidate, the one candidate who really needed the votes. Don't forget there were two Democrats in the race, but for some reason only the third place Democrat who needed the vote saw a disproportionate spike in votes several days after the election. Plus, multiple studies have shown that male voting doesn't provide an advantage to either party. It's a myth. The media will say that claims of fraud here are without evidence. Keep in mind, an anomalous statistical spike like this is evidence of fraud.

Ask any forensic accountant. It may not be necessarily proof of fraud, but it is certainly evidence of fraud. But forget the late ballots. Just because the vote swing coincidentally matched the specific Lassa count of homeless people on the streets. Just because NOS's that Nithia cuts checks to were hoarding ballots. Just because hundreds of thousands of dead people and ex- residents who've left California were still on the voter roles doesn't mean anyone is taking those loose ballots and filling them out. First off, it's against the law.

And we all know if it's against the law, it doesn't happen. Secondly, we have signature verification. Everyone has to sign their ballot and a computer checks your signature. Well, except some voters can't sign. So, they carved out a rule where you can just make a mark on the ballot. And a witness can sign on your behalf. It can be an X or a scribble or even a happy face as long as a witness signs off on it. Once they separate the ballot from the envelope, there's zero way to trace it back to the ballot to check if a sudden trunch of votes that swung predominantly to one candidate had come from a bunch of ballots with the happy faces in the signature box.

The DSA instructs their ballot harvesters to go doortodoor and tell them to vote for Nifty Ramen and even help them fill in the bubble for their preferred socialist candidates. This is explicitly illegal. A ballot harvester can't tell you how to vote and they certainly can't help you fill out the ballot. The laws don't matter if you have no mechanism in place to prevent the crime from occurring in the first place. There is this misnomer being parited even by staunch critics of California's rigged voting system saying there's nothing you can do because this is all legal in California.

It's not legal. Even by California's own ridiculous laws, all this stuff is still illegal. They've simply removed all the mechanisms to catch the fraud and prevent it from happening. It's like a bank heist. But California has made a law that you can't lock the bank vault. You're not allowed to have security cameras and you can't count the money inside the vault. Robbing a bank is still 100% illegal, but there's no way to stop it from happening. Now, here's the smoky backroom dealing. 5 days before my election, Gavin Newsome signed a ridiculous law that literally banned federal and independent authorities from investigating vote fraud or overseeing elections to monitor for fraud during the counting process.

That's why I'm moving forward with new legislation that would make it a felony to seize ballots before the vote has been certified by state and county officials. We will be the wall he cannot get past. That's like banning the bank from having security cameras. Now, the timing of this was deliberate. He knows this won't hold up in court, but he did it so close to the election day. He knew the courts wouldn't be able to overturn it in time for the election. It's truly like going up against the casino.

The deck is so stacked against you, you never really stand a chance. You can play if you choose, but the house will never lose. So now in California, you can loot $950 of merchandise. You can knowingly infect someone with HIV, but if you try to prevent vote fraud, you will be prosecuted. prosecuted. prosecuted. How can you secure the money if you can't lock the vault? How can you catch the robbers if you're not allowed to monitor the vault? And how can you even identify if the vault were even robbed in the first place if you can't even count the money?

This is what California has done with elections. Unsolicited ballots going into open mailboxes and NOS's and parking lots. Bank vault is wide open. No signature required. No ID required. No way to ID the robbers. And the beauty of their rig system is they can have all the pageantry of this public ballot counting center. Hey, come on down. It's open to the public. Anyone can come watch and can see just how kosher our system is. We are inside LA County's massive ballot processing center. When assistant United States attorney arrived on scene to observe the process and ask questions.

All the fraud that does occur happens long before the ballots even hit this building. People have been pushing me to demand a recount. Why? You could recount these anonymous ballots a 100 times. You'll get the same exact result. I have no doubt that they are doing a flawless job of accurately counting every single ballot in here with robotic precision. The fraud isn't here. It's here on Skid Row where homeless people are paid a couple of bucks for their ballots. ballots. ballots. They gave you two laws to vote.

Yeah, they'd be in the street if you showed something. something. something. Will they come down here and pay you to vote? vote? vote? Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. I told you who to vote for. I'm voting your way. Can I get a plate? You know what I mean? It's here where socialist street animals go doortodoor and violate the ballot harvesting laws. People bring up the old communist adage often attributed to Stalin saying, "It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes." No, this is the modern era fraud.

They've gotten wise. The modern communist agrees with the old communist, but just the first part. It doesn't matter who votes. It doesn't matter if it's a drug zombie being paid for their ballot. It doesn't matter if it's a DSA socialist street animal filling out your ballot. It doesn't matter if it's a blue-haired intern at a Nthia Ramen funded NGO filling out the ballots. The bank vault is wide open. The cameras have been removed and there's no way to count the money. Now, for those of you who wanted me to fight the election, for those of you who thought I was quitting or I was bought off to step aside and quietly disappear, I'll remind you there's a smart way to handle these things and a dumb way.

Evidence is not proof. I don't say things without proof. Now, anyone saying that there's no evidence of fraud is lying. There's tons of evidence and I was the one who got it. All those videos that you saw of homeless people admitting that they were paid for their vote, where do you think they came from? Immediately after the big spike of votes came in for Nick, I sent my how he got the uh information. All right. It we're going to see how all of this plays out.

I'll be interested to see if he continues to be um part of the political scene or not. But it is to me the fact that we don't do things to secure the election, that we don't uh make sure that people are signing their ballots, that we're not able to count them on time, that they're um the voter roles are not combed through and made sure that everybody I want to see everybody prove that they're a citizen. So that's where it's like to his point, you've got to find a way to close all of these open doors where fraud could take place.

Not that they've actually made fraud legal, but that they leave the door open for things like one person signing off on hundreds of ballots uh because the person that they're getting it from, they don't want to have to prove who they are. So, they just have them sign whatever uh or that fill it out and then they will sign on their behalf or to get somebody like a homeless person go in and sign the ballot but fill it out according to the way that they want it filled out and then ship it off.

It it is one of those things where let's assume for a second that they're actually not doing anything um untoward that this is all a big misunderstanding. There's still no reason to make it illegal to check ID. That kind of stuff is absolutely crazy. There are things that California can and should do to make sure that people feel confident that their vote is actually being counted in the right way. Um, and they're doing none of it. In fact, they're going in the exact opposite direction. It is nobody should want a one party state.

Nobody. I don't want it to be my party. I don't want it to be the other party. I want it to be an actual back and forth battle based on what people actually want based on the results that they're getting. But it's not where we're at right now. Um, do you remember the 2000 US presidential election controversy with Bush and Gore? Vaguely. I didn't pay attention to politics back then at all, but the Hanging Chad thing. Yeah. People were upset that Bush might have cheated on the election, yada yada yada.

So then Bush authored the Help America Vote Act, which is supposed to be a bipartisan conglomerate that was supposed to monitor the voting systems, make sure that the there's a commission to help federal elections um minimize election administration standards to kind of streamline it so that way there's not all these potentials for fraud and things like that back then. Um recently, Trump just dismissed the last three members that of the Election Assistance Commission, which was a direct result from that act. So now there is no federal commission body that is overseeing federal elections.

So I think this is the opposite move if that's somebody that's trying to fight voter fraud. I don't think there's a replacement that has been uh put out there yet. The SAVE act is now still in limbo with uh Mitch McConnell still having a weekend at Bernie's moment. Some were already losing votes in the like wrong direction. What do you think is going to happen in the future of our elections when Spencer Pratt has claims like this? when California is saying everything is fine and the overall fabric of our trust in the system is starting to deteriorate, we we're going to have to do something, I think, at the federal level to tighten up what can be done in terms of who can vote, how votes can be put in, processed, all of that needs to be um a system where all holes are filled.

Now, states can do things differently within a banded constraint, but right now, like some of the stuff that California is doing is insane. I want to see all the way to the voter roles have to be you have to show proof of citizenship. Um obviously that hasn't passed so we'll see what ends up coming of that. But if you really want to protect your elections and make sure that when you lose you know cool my the guy that I voted for lost fair and square um you've got to do things to shore this up so that there just aren't the opportunities to do this stuff.

Like I remember when um the media was freaking out because I can't remember if it was Tulsi Gabbard, but somebody was alone in a van with some of the records from the Georgia election, I believe, and people were like, "Oh my god." Like, imagine what could happen in that moment. It's like, are you joking? Like, the amount of places that false ballots could be put into the system in California is insane. Uh so if we're worried about that one person sitting in the back of a van for 10 minutes with something, we should be very worried about the rest.

Get people to vote in person. I love your idea. Make it a national holiday. Everybody gets a day off. Go vote. Uh, one place, one time. That's it. Show your ID. Game over. But yeah, we're we're a long way. If they did that, more people would vote, Tom. We don't want people to vote. Let's go. Hey, I'm here for it. Make them dumb. Make them here for it. And you can be in power forever. Yeah. Well, you uh you certainly are getting more states that are going a color and are trying to stay that way forever.

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