Trump Walked Into a Trap He Can't Get Out Of — And Nobody's Explaining Why

The president of the United States of The president of the United States of America has enormous power. Mocking America has enormous power. Mocking America has enormous power. Mocking Allah on Easter as you announce total Allah on Easter as you announce total Allah on Easter as you announce total war against the civilian population war against the civilian population war against the civilian population seems like a dangerous game to me. seems like a dangerous game to me. seems like a dangerous game to me. >> What do you see as a relationship >> What do you see as a relationship >> What do you see as a relationship between the Jewish lobby and the between the Jewish lobby and the between the Jewish lobby and the military-industrial complex? military-industrial complex? military-industrial complex? >> Israel is an expansionist state. War is >> Israel is an expansionist state. War is >> Israel is an expansionist state. War is big business. Behind this door is big business. Behind this door is big business. Behind this door is forever war. There's huge money to be forever war. There's huge money to be forever war. There's huge money to be made here. and and that's what we've made here. and and that's what we've made here. and and that's what we've been pursuing this whole time. been pursuing this whole time. been pursuing this whole time. >> If someone wanted to predict Trump's >> If someone wanted to predict Trump's >> If someone wanted to predict Trump's next move in the Middle East, what do next move in the Middle East, what do next move in the Middle East, what do you think is the most important variable you think is the most important variable you think is the most important variable that they should be tracking? Is it that they should be tracking? Is it that they should be tracking? Is it Israel's goals or is it something else? Israel's goals or is it something else? Israel's goals or is it something else? essentially the neoconservatives and the essentially the neoconservatives and the essentially the neoconservatives and the lood uh party and the Israel lobby more lood uh party and the Israel lobby more lood uh party and the Israel lobby more broadly speaking for at least 30 years broadly speaking for at least 30 years broadly speaking for at least 30 years they're openly their goal has been to they're openly their goal has been to they're openly their goal has been to remake the Middle East like since the remake the Middle East like since the remake the Middle East like since the clean break strategy their goal was like clean break strategy their goal was like clean break strategy their goal was like no we're not doing Oslo we're not doing no we're not doing Oslo we're not doing no we're not doing Oslo we're not doing a two-state solution we're going to a two-state solution we're going to a two-state solution we're going to remake the surrounding Arab uh nations remake the surrounding Arab uh nations remake the surrounding Arab uh nations um not just Arab nations but you know um not just Arab nations but you know um not just Arab nations but you know Persian the Middle East northern Africa Persian the Middle East northern Africa Persian the Middle East northern Africa and we're going to remake them and take and we're going to remake them and take and we're going to remake them and take down the ones that are are supporting down the ones that are are supporting down the ones that are are supporting the Palestinian resistance or supporting the Palestinian resistance or supporting the Palestinian resistance or supporting Hezblah. And Donald Trump's goal was to Hezblah. And Donald Trump's goal was to Hezblah. And Donald Trump's goal was to get out of stupid regime change wars in get out of stupid regime change wars in get out of stupid regime change wars in the Middle East. And both of them were the Middle East. And both of them were the Middle East. And both of them were very explicit about what their goals very explicit about what their goals very explicit about what their goals were. And yet here we find ourselves in were. And yet here we find ourselves in were. And yet here we find ourselves in uh a regime change war, a regime uh a regime change war, a regime uh a regime change war, a regime collapse war that is clearly not in collapse war that is clearly not in collapse war that is clearly not in America's interest, clearly not in the America's interest, clearly not in the America's interest, clearly not in the region's interest, but it sure did allow region's interest, but it sure did allow region's interest, but it sure did allow Israel to take southern Lebanon in the Israel to take southern Lebanon in the Israel to take southern Lebanon in the last few weeks. And so it seems to me last few weeks. And so it seems to me last few weeks. And so it seems to me that yeah, what the lobby wants, what that yeah, what the lobby wants, what that yeah, what the lobby wants, what the Israeli government wants seems to the Israeli government wants seems to the Israeli government wants seems to have at least for the last 30 years been have at least for the last 30 years been have at least for the last 30 years been the best predictor of the out of the best predictor of the out of the best predictor of the out of outcomes. But look, there's other things outcomes. But look, there's other things outcomes. But look, there's other things in there, too. I mean, look, the fact is in there, too. I mean, look, the fact is in there, too. I mean, look, the fact is part of the reason why the um the part of the reason why the um the part of the reason why the um the neoconservatives, cuz you know, if you neoconservatives, cuz you know, if you neoconservatives, cuz you know, if you remember, I think we might have even remember, I think we might have even remember, I think we might have even talked about this last time I was on, talked about this last time I was on, talked about this last time I was on, but the neoconservatives, I mean, the but the neoconservatives, I mean, the but the neoconservatives, I mean, the selfidentified neoonservatives from the selfidentified neoonservatives from the selfidentified neoonservatives from the Reagan uh uh Bush senior and George W. Reagan uh uh Bush senior and George W. Reagan uh uh Bush senior and George W. Bush administration, they weren't old Bush administration, they weren't old Bush administration, they weren't old money guys. They they weren't guys from money guys. They they weren't guys from money guys. They they weren't guys from the Council on Foreign Relation. They the Council on Foreign Relation. They the Council on Foreign Relation. They weren't the the Rockefellers guys. They weren't the the Rockefellers guys. They weren't the the Rockefellers guys. They they weren't in that world at all. They they weren't in that world at all. They they weren't in that world at all. They were middle class kids who went to city were middle class kids who went to city were middle class kids who went to city college in in New York City. Like they, college in in New York City. Like they, college in in New York City. Like they, you know, but they made their you know, but they made their you know, but they made their relationships with the relationships with the relationships with the military-industrial complex on their military-industrial complex on their military-industrial complex on their own. And so, of course, war is big own. And so, of course, war is big own. And so, of course, war is big business. And, you know, whenever you business. And, you know, whenever you business. And, you know, whenever you get on the side of that, you're always get on the side of that, you're always get on the side of that, you're always going to be, you know, sailing with the going to be, you know, sailing with the going to be, you know, sailing with the wind at your back in in DC. wind at your back in in DC. wind at your back in in DC. >> Okay. And how do you see the >> Okay. And how do you see the >> Okay. And how do you see the relationship being between the Jewish relationship being between the Jewish relationship being between the Jewish lobby, which we're probably going to lobby, which we're probably going to lobby, which we're probably going to have to take a second to define, but have to take a second to define, but have to take a second to define, but we'll get to that in a minute. What do we'll get to that in a minute. What do we'll get to that in a minute. What do you see as a relationship between the you see as a relationship between the you see as a relationship between the Jewish lobby and the military-industrial Jewish lobby and the military-industrial Jewish lobby and the military-industrial complex? Well, I mean, you could say, so complex? Well, I mean, you could say, so complex? Well, I mean, you could say, so if you look at like um uh you know, like if you look at like um uh you know, like if you look at like um uh you know, like the guys like Bill Crystal, the the the guys like Bill Crystal, the the the guys like Bill Crystal, the the neoonservatives who always had like a neoonservatives who always had like a neoonservatives who always had like a bunch of different think tanks in bunch of different think tanks in bunch of different think tanks in Washington DC. I mean, you can go look Washington DC. I mean, you can go look Washington DC. I mean, you can go look at who funds them. This is all public at who funds them. This is all public at who funds them. This is all public information. It's like all the weapons information. It's like all the weapons information. It's like all the weapons companies up and down funding the they companies up and down funding the they companies up and down funding the they just happen to think like oh yeah these just happen to think like oh yeah these just happen to think like oh yeah these neoonservatives who want to fight seven neoonservatives who want to fight seven neoonservatives who want to fight seven wars have some really good arguments to wars have some really good arguments to wars have some really good arguments to make or whatever or like maybe there's a make or whatever or like maybe there's a make or whatever or like maybe there's a little bit of um uh perverse incentive little bit of um uh perverse incentive little bit of um uh perverse incentive structure there. Um but so I think that structure there. Um but so I think that structure there. Um but so I think that look in general in Washington DC if look in general in Washington DC if look in general in Washington DC if you're advocating that we fight a whole you're advocating that we fight a whole you're advocating that we fight a whole bunch of wars you're going to find bunch of wars you're going to find bunch of wars you're going to find weapons companies that are quite happy weapons companies that are quite happy weapons companies that are quite happy to to fund your endeavors. Um, and I to to fund your endeavors. Um, and I to to fund your endeavors. Um, and I think that's true that if you're think that's true that if you're think that's true that if you're advocating for say vaccine mandates, advocating for say vaccine mandates, advocating for say vaccine mandates, you're going to find a lot of big you're going to find a lot of big you're going to find a lot of big pharmaceutical companies who want to pharmaceutical companies who want to pharmaceutical companies who want to support uh what you're doing. So to me, support uh what you're doing. So to me, support uh what you're doing. So to me, I mean, I I think there obviously I mean, I I think there obviously I mean, I I think there obviously there's always like ideological there's always like ideological there's always like ideological components to these things, but I really components to these things, but I really components to these things, but I really do think that business is what runs the do think that business is what runs the do think that business is what runs the world at the end of the day and that world at the end of the day and that world at the end of the day and that there's huge money to be made here. you there's huge money to be made here. you there's huge money to be made here. you know this uh if you look at you know know this uh if you look at you know know this uh if you look at you know whatever the numbers are like since the whatever the numbers are like since the whatever the numbers are like since the fall of the Soviet Union we spent like fall of the Soviet Union we spent like fall of the Soviet Union we spent like over 20 trillion dollars on on defense over 20 trillion dollars on on defense over 20 trillion dollars on on defense and empire and wars of aggression you and empire and wars of aggression you and empire and wars of aggression you know there's trillions of dollars that know there's trillions of dollars that know there's trillions of dollars that people are making off of that it's an people are making off of that it's an people are making off of that it's an unreal amount of money I mean it's unreal amount of money I mean it's unreal amount of money I mean it's literally it makes Elon Musk look poor literally it makes Elon Musk look poor literally it makes Elon Musk look poor how much money has been you know uh how much money has been you know uh how much money has been you know uh exchanged around in Washington DC so you exchanged around in Washington DC so you exchanged around in Washington DC so you know I think all of that's all of these know I think all of that's all of these know I think all of that's all of these things are components it's hard to things are components it's hard to things are components it's hard to exactly say how much each factor is. But exactly say how much each factor is. But exactly say how much each factor is. But also, one of the things that's kind of also, one of the things that's kind of also, one of the things that's kind of unique about Donald Trump is that the unique about Donald Trump is that the unique about Donald Trump is that the guy just has no filter at all, unlike guy just has no filter at all, unlike guy just has no filter at all, unlike all previous presidents. Then, and all previous presidents. Then, and all previous presidents. Then, and that's a gift and a curse. You know, that's a gift and a curse. You know, that's a gift and a curse. You know, there's things about that that are nice there's things about that that are nice there's things about that that are nice and there's things about that that are and there's things about that that are and there's things about that that are really terrible. But, you know, I mean, really terrible. But, you know, I mean, really terrible. But, you know, I mean, look, if somebody had just said to you look, if somebody had just said to you look, if somebody had just said to you like, "The Adlessons give the president like, "The Adlessons give the president like, "The Adlessons give the president hundreds of millions of dollars and all hundreds of millions of dollars and all hundreds of millions of dollars and all they care about is Israel and they love they care about is Israel and they love they care about is Israel and they love Israel more than they love America." And Israel more than they love America." And Israel more than they love America." And every day they'd go demand things on every day they'd go demand things on every day they'd go demand things on behalf of of Israel because that's who behalf of of Israel because that's who behalf of of Israel because that's who they identify with. You know, you cannot they identify with. You know, you cannot they identify with. You know, you cannot these these billionaire Jews living in these these billionaire Jews living in these these billionaire Jews living in America are actually essentially Israeli America are actually essentially Israeli America are actually essentially Israeli spies. You'd be like, "Ah, what was spies. You'd be like, "Ah, what was spies. You'd be like, "Ah, what was that?" Like a Nick Fuentes, you know, that?" Like a Nick Fuentes, you know, that?" Like a Nick Fuentes, you know, clip or something that went viral. Like, clip or something that went viral. Like, clip or something that went viral. Like, no, that was the president of the United no, that was the president of the United no, that was the president of the United States of America, the one who's doing States of America, the one who's doing States of America, the one who's doing it right now, just openly says this. it right now, just openly says this. it right now, just openly says this. Just openly acknowledges that. So then Just openly acknowledges that. So then Just openly acknowledges that. So then it's kind of hard to like, you know, and it's kind of hard to like, you know, and it's kind of hard to like, you know, and people still go like, "Oh, you're people still go like, "Oh, you're people still go like, "Oh, you're blaming the Israel lobby for blaming the Israel lobby for blaming the Israel lobby for everything." You're like, "What?" I everything." You're like, "What?" I everything." You're like, "What?" I mean, I don't know. The guy who's doing mean, I don't know. The guy who's doing mean, I don't know. The guy who's doing it is saying in his own words that it is saying in his own words that it is saying in his own words that that's what's going on here. that's what's going on here. that's what's going on here. >> It's interesting. So here's why this >> It's interesting. So here's why this >> It's interesting. So here's why this feels important enough to like really feels important enough to like really feels important enough to like really press down the path. So um what you just press down the path. So um what you just press down the path. So um what you just said as part of it is there's a whole said as part of it is there's a whole said as part of it is there's a whole bunch of influences. Hard to know which bunch of influences. Hard to know which bunch of influences. Hard to know which one is the leading one that if we just one is the leading one that if we just one is the leading one that if we just made that statement I'd be like I agree made that statement I'd be like I agree made that statement I'd be like I agree wholeheartedly. Um you also said that we wholeheartedly. Um you also said that we wholeheartedly. Um you also said that we have um economics basically runs the have um economics basically runs the have um economics basically runs the world or money runs the world. can't world or money runs the world. can't world or money runs the world. can't remember what exact word you used, but remember what exact word you used, but remember what exact word you used, but basically like, hey, money is the real basically like, hey, money is the real basically like, hey, money is the real player here. Uh, if you just said that, player here. Uh, if you just said that, player here. Uh, if you just said that, I would agree totally because that's my I would agree totally because that's my I would agree totally because that's my punchline is if you want to understand punchline is if you want to understand punchline is if you want to understand what's happening right now, there's only what's happening right now, there's only what's happening right now, there's only two things you need to understand. And two things you need to understand. And two things you need to understand. And that is Trump wants to end up on Mount that is Trump wants to end up on Mount that is Trump wants to end up on Mount Rushmore completely unironically, like Rushmore completely unironically, like Rushmore completely unironically, like he wants to be the fifth head carved he wants to be the fifth head carved he wants to be the fifth head carved into Mount Rushmore. And then he's going into Mount Rushmore. And then he's going into Mount Rushmore. And then he's going to get there by outpacing the um to get there by outpacing the um to get there by outpacing the um inflationary spiral that we're in inflationary spiral that we're in inflationary spiral that we're in because nobody, not Republicans, not because nobody, not Republicans, not because nobody, not Republicans, not Democrats, nobody is going to reduce the Democrats, nobody is going to reduce the Democrats, nobody is going to reduce the budget. So budget. So budget. So >> for me, what I'll be attempting to do is >> for me, what I'll be attempting to do is >> for me, what I'll be attempting to do is basically sharpen that idea or get rid basically sharpen that idea or get rid basically sharpen that idea or get rid of it based on our time together because of it based on our time together because of it based on our time together because I think you're super insightful on this I think you're super insightful on this I think you're super insightful on this stuff. But the where I come down is when stuff. But the where I come down is when stuff. But the where I come down is when I look at the way that that every time I look at the way that that every time I look at the way that that every time the world breaks economically, the world breaks economically, the world breaks economically, there's a pogram. Now, is it one for there's a pogram. Now, is it one for there's a pogram. Now, is it one for one? Maybe it's not quite one for one, one? Maybe it's not quite one for one, one? Maybe it's not quite one for one, but woo buddy, it gets real close. And but woo buddy, it gets real close. And but woo buddy, it gets real close. And so I look at that and I go, okay, why so I look at that and I go, okay, why so I look at that and I go, okay, why when economics starts to fall apart do when economics starts to fall apart do when economics starts to fall apart do people turn against the Jews? and so people turn against the Jews? and so people turn against the Jews? and so reliably throughout history. Now, I've reliably throughout history. Now, I've reliably throughout history. Now, I've got my explanation which I'll speedrun got my explanation which I'll speedrun got my explanation which I'll speedrun um and then I want to bring it back to um and then I want to bring it back to um and then I want to bring it back to this moment in America and how we begin this moment in America and how we begin this moment in America and how we begin teasing out, okay, there's all these teasing out, okay, there's all these teasing out, okay, there's all these influences, but what are the ones that influences, but what are the ones that influences, but what are the ones that we really need to pay attention to? So, we really need to pay attention to? So, we really need to pay attention to? So, the speedrun for me as to why Jews get the speedrun for me as to why Jews get the speedrun for me as to why Jews get themselves in trouble historically, themselves in trouble historically, themselves in trouble historically, reliably over and over and over. Um, I reliably over and over and over. Um, I reliably over and over and over. Um, I do subscribe to the It just really makes do subscribe to the It just really makes do subscribe to the It just really makes a lot of sense if Ashkanazi Jews have a a lot of sense if Ashkanazi Jews have a a lot of sense if Ashkanazi Jews have a slightly higher IQ than the average. slightly higher IQ than the average. slightly higher IQ than the average. That certainly makes my following That certainly makes my following That certainly makes my following argument that much easier to swallow. argument that much easier to swallow. argument that much easier to swallow. So, I do subscribe to that. And then if So, I do subscribe to that. And then if So, I do subscribe to that. And then if you're smart, one of the first things you're smart, one of the first things you're smart, one of the first things you realize is that economics is you realize is that economics is you realize is that economics is basically the whole game. And so if you basically the whole game. And so if you basically the whole game. And so if you can go in and um if you're trying to can go in and um if you're trying to can go in and um if you're trying to make things better for you, your family, make things better for you, your family, make things better for you, your family, and you're just being shrewd, I I'm not and you're just being shrewd, I I'm not and you're just being shrewd, I I'm not even I won't even go all the way to even I won't even go all the way to even I won't even go all the way to selfish. You're just being wise, uh selfish. You're just being wise, uh selfish. You're just being wise, uh you're going to master economics. I you're going to master economics. I you're going to master economics. I would say that to me, I would say that would say that to me, I would say that would say that to me, I would say that to you. I'd say it to anybody who will to you. I'd say it to anybody who will to you. I'd say it to anybody who will listen to me. Go get good at finance. listen to me. Go get good at finance. listen to me. Go get good at finance. Cool. So they put themselves at the Cool. So they put themselves at the Cool. So they put themselves at the center of that. You've talked very center of that. You've talked very center of that. You've talked very eloquently about the whole idea of eloquently about the whole idea of eloquently about the whole idea of usery. It's like if American Christians usery. It's like if American Christians usery. It's like if American Christians or Christians in general don't believe or Christians in general don't believe or Christians in general don't believe that they can charge interest, but you that they can charge interest, but you that they can charge interest, but you have a group over here that's like, have a group over here that's like, have a group over here that's like, "Yeah, why wouldn't you? You facilitate "Yeah, why wouldn't you? You facilitate "Yeah, why wouldn't you? You facilitate modern economics, which has given us modern economics, which has given us modern economics, which has given us unbelievable prosperity. So, it's a unbelievable prosperity. So, it's a unbelievable prosperity. So, it's a great idea. No matter how angry you get great idea. No matter how angry you get great idea. No matter how angry you get about the rates that they charge or about the rates that they charge or about the rates that they charge or whatever, like it is a modern miracle whatever, like it is a modern miracle whatever, like it is a modern miracle that somebody figured out debt, that that somebody figured out debt, that that somebody figured out debt, that they figured out interest. Absolutely they figured out interest. Absolutely they figured out interest. Absolutely incredible. But when you run that system incredible. But when you run that system incredible. But when you run that system for too long, it tends to bump into for too long, it tends to bump into for too long, it tends to bump into weaknesses and you're ultimately going weaknesses and you're ultimately going weaknesses and you're ultimately going to get a K-shaped economy as we have to get a K-shaped economy as we have to get a K-shaped economy as we have seen over and over and over certainly seen over and over and over certainly seen over and over and over certainly for the last 500 plus years. And so at for the last 500 plus years. And so at for the last 500 plus years. And so at that moment when that breaks down and that moment when that breaks down and that moment when that breaks down and people feel like they're being held down people feel like they're being held down people feel like they're being held down by bankers, if you look up and you go, by bankers, if you look up and you go, by bankers, if you look up and you go, "Oh, the bankers are all Jewish." Then "Oh, the bankers are all Jewish." Then "Oh, the bankers are all Jewish." Then you confuse a K-shaped economy which as you confuse a K-shaped economy which as you confuse a K-shaped economy which as we are learning now can be done by Jew we are learning now can be done by Jew we are learning now can be done by Jew or Gentile alike and they are conflating or Gentile alike and they are conflating or Gentile alike and they are conflating two things which are a K-shaped economy two things which are a K-shaped economy two things which are a K-shaped economy is devastating and it's killed every is devastating and it's killed every is devastating and it's killed every empire that's ever been foolish enough empire that's ever been foolish enough empire that's ever been foolish enough to create one and because Jewish people to create one and because Jewish people to create one and because Jewish people are so good at identifying like where are so good at identifying like where are so good at identifying like where the positions of power actually are and the positions of power actually are and the positions of power actually are and they go there and they are tremendously they go there and they are tremendously they go there and they are tremendously successful then we go oh it must be successful then we go oh it must be successful then we go oh it must be their fault. their fault. their fault. And that is from where I'm sitting as And that is from where I'm sitting as And that is from where I'm sitting as somebody who's really come to all of somebody who's really come to all of somebody who's really come to all of this late. I came up as an entrepreneur. this late. I came up as an entrepreneur. this late. I came up as an entrepreneur. That's my whole background. And so That's my whole background. And so That's my whole background. And so getting into the economics of it all, getting into the economics of it all, getting into the economics of it all, the polit political nature of it all has the polit political nature of it all has the polit political nature of it all has been very um I've had to orient and been very um I've had to orient and been very um I've had to orient and build a new map. So I'm looking at that build a new map. So I'm looking at that build a new map. So I'm looking at that going, hold on. I can feel this racing going, hold on. I can feel this racing going, hold on. I can feel this racing now towards anti-semitism. people are no now towards anti-semitism. people are no now towards anti-semitism. people are no longer making contact with the economic longer making contact with the economic longer making contact with the economic arguments and they're going to something arguments and they're going to something arguments and they're going to something that feels like conspiracy that feels like conspiracy that feels like conspiracy and that's where it begins to break and that's where it begins to break and that's where it begins to break down. And so while the initial down. And so while the initial down. And so while the initial assumption from where I'm sitting is assumption from where I'm sitting is assumption from where I'm sitting is maybe only 7° off, you start taking that maybe only 7° off, you start taking that maybe only 7° off, you start taking that down the road far enough and it goes down the road far enough and it goes down the road far enough and it goes from um pro-Israel from um pro-Israel from um pro-Israel Americans, which is how I'll Americans, which is how I'll Americans, which is how I'll map the Jewish diaspora here in the US, map the Jewish diaspora here in the US, map the Jewish diaspora here in the US, are exceedingly good at being a lobbying are exceedingly good at being a lobbying are exceedingly good at being a lobbying organization and finding the alignment organization and finding the alignment organization and finding the alignment with American citizens. and they're now with American citizens. and they're now with American citizens. and they're now conflating that with the conspiracy of conflating that with the conspiracy of conflating that with the conspiracy of Jews rule the world. And I worry that Jews rule the world. And I worry that Jews rule the world. And I worry that that then just goes into this that then just goes into this that then just goes into this self-fulfilling prophecy of Jews are self-fulfilling prophecy of Jews are self-fulfilling prophecy of Jews are bad, got to get rid of them, and we end bad, got to get rid of them, and we end bad, got to get rid of them, and we end up back in a super dark place. up back in a super dark place. up back in a super dark place. >> You know, I think a lot of um a lot of >> You know, I think a lot of um a lot of >> You know, I think a lot of um a lot of the almost like the solution to all of the almost like the solution to all of the almost like the solution to all of this is individualism rather than this is individualism rather than this is individualism rather than collectivism. And you know even when you collectivism. And you know even when you collectivism. And you know even when you talk about like say the Jewish diaspora talk about like say the Jewish diaspora talk about like say the Jewish diaspora in the United States of America, the in the United States of America, the in the United States of America, the fact is that I I mean I saw one poll uh fact is that I I mean I saw one poll uh fact is that I I mean I saw one poll uh that recently where it was like I think that recently where it was like I think that recently where it was like I think it was a super majority of Jewish people it was a super majority of Jewish people it was a super majority of Jewish people in America were against this war. Jewish in America were against this war. Jewish in America were against this war. Jewish people I know uh for a fact in America people I know uh for a fact in America people I know uh for a fact in America were I believe the biggest critic like were I believe the biggest critic like were I believe the biggest critic like as a demographic the most against the as a demographic the most against the as a demographic the most against the Iraq war. like they were like 10 points Iraq war. like they were like 10 points Iraq war. like they were like 10 points higher against the Iraq war than they higher against the Iraq war than they higher against the Iraq war than they than the general population was. And so than the general population was. And so than the general population was. And so already you say like hey look if you're already you say like hey look if you're already you say like hey look if you're like the majority of now this might be like the majority of now this might be like the majority of now this might be cuz a lot of them are are leftists and cuz a lot of them are are leftists and cuz a lot of them are are leftists and I'm not a leftist but the point is I'm not a leftist but the point is I'm not a leftist but the point is they're not on board with Netanyahu in they're not on board with Netanyahu in they're not on board with Netanyahu in the Israel lobby's game here. that the Israel lobby's game here. that the Israel lobby's game here. that certainly the idea that like like Barry certainly the idea that like like Barry certainly the idea that like like Barry Horowitz, the Jewish accountant down the Horowitz, the Jewish accountant down the Horowitz, the Jewish accountant down the street, has anything to do with any of street, has anything to do with any of street, has anything to do with any of this is just kind of silly. And that is this is just kind of silly. And that is this is just kind of silly. And that is just like uh the baseline of why bigotry just like uh the baseline of why bigotry just like uh the baseline of why bigotry always gets it wrong. Like even if it is always gets it wrong. Like even if it is always gets it wrong. Like even if it is true that whatever like if black people true that whatever like if black people true that whatever like if black people commit a higher percentage of violent commit a higher percentage of violent commit a higher percentage of violent crime than Asian people, that doesn't crime than Asian people, that doesn't crime than Asian people, that doesn't mean that like this guy Earl, some black mean that like this guy Earl, some black mean that like this guy Earl, some black guy down the street has anything to do guy down the street has anything to do guy down the street has anything to do with that. He might be the most peaceful with that. He might be the most peaceful with that. He might be the most peaceful person in his neighborhood. I think person in his neighborhood. I think person in his neighborhood. I think there's no question that Ashkanazi Jews there's no question that Ashkanazi Jews there's no question that Ashkanazi Jews are like a standard deviation IQ higher are like a standard deviation IQ higher are like a standard deviation IQ higher than the the general uh um than than than the the general uh um than than than the the general uh um than than well I guess it depends on what group well I guess it depends on what group well I guess it depends on what group you're comparing them to, but as many you're comparing them to, but as many you're comparing them to, but as many people have pointed out, right? Even people have pointed out, right? Even people have pointed out, right? Even just like one standard deviation on the just like one standard deviation on the just like one standard deviation on the average IQ means that at the far end of average IQ means that at the far end of average IQ means that at the far end of geniuses, you're going to produce a lot geniuses, you're going to produce a lot geniuses, you're going to produce a lot more geniuses than you otherwise would. more geniuses than you otherwise would. more geniuses than you otherwise would. So that's an aspect of it too. Also, it So that's an aspect of it too. Also, it So that's an aspect of it too. Also, it is undeniably true. I think this is um is undeniably true. I think this is um is undeniably true. I think this is um less true in my generation, but it was less true in my generation, but it was less true in my generation, but it was certainly true of my father's generation certainly true of my father's generation certainly true of my father's generation that there's a lot of uh you know, that there's a lot of uh you know, that there's a lot of uh you know, nepotism or whatever you might call it. nepotism or whatever you might call it. nepotism or whatever you might call it. And I I think some of that is somewhat And I I think some of that is somewhat And I I think some of that is somewhat understandable. you know, if you're if understandable. you know, if you're if understandable. you know, if you're if you identify with a group who's kind of you identify with a group who's kind of you identify with a group who's kind of been persecuted and beat up on, and been persecuted and beat up on, and been persecuted and beat up on, and particularly post World War II, I think particularly post World War II, I think particularly post World War II, I think there was a sense amongst Jews that there was a sense amongst Jews that there was a sense amongst Jews that like, hey, if you can help out another like, hey, if you can help out another like, hey, if you can help out another Jew, you do that cuz no one else is Jew, you do that cuz no one else is Jew, you do that cuz no one else is going to is going to do that. So that's going to is going to do that. So that's going to is going to do that. So that's kind of on you. Um, and then of course kind of on you. Um, and then of course kind of on you. Um, and then of course there were just cultural forces like there were just cultural forces like there were just cultural forces like Jews focus a lot on intellectualism and Jews focus a lot on intellectualism and Jews focus a lot on intellectualism and family and hard work. And I think all of family and hard work. And I think all of family and hard work. And I think all of these things are great and all are all these things are great and all are all these things are great and all are all part of the reason why Jews get ahead. part of the reason why Jews get ahead. part of the reason why Jews get ahead. Also to your point, you know, I heard um Also to your point, you know, I heard um Also to your point, you know, I heard um uh Nicholas Wade, who's uh he he wrote uh Nicholas Wade, who's uh he he wrote uh Nicholas Wade, who's uh he he wrote this book, very interesting book that I this book, very interesting book that I this book, very interesting book that I read like 20 years ago. Uh it was called read like 20 years ago. Uh it was called read like 20 years ago. Uh it was called uh Before the Dawn or Beyond the Dawn. uh Before the Dawn or Beyond the Dawn. uh Before the Dawn or Beyond the Dawn. Anyway, Nicholas Wade, if you don't Anyway, Nicholas Wade, if you don't Anyway, Nicholas Wade, if you don't know, he was the New York Times science know, he was the New York Times science know, he was the New York Times science editor and he was the editor of of editor and he was the editor of of editor and he was the editor of of Nature for a while. Very accredited uh Nature for a while. Very accredited uh Nature for a while. Very accredited uh guy who got totally um drumed out of guy who got totally um drumed out of guy who got totally um drumed out of polite society because he told the truth polite society because he told the truth polite society because he told the truth about lockdowns. Um but anyway, but he about lockdowns. Um but anyway, but he about lockdowns. Um but anyway, but he wrote this book and he basically argued wrote this book and he basically argued wrote this book and he basically argued in it. There was one chapter on it where in it. There was one chapter on it where in it. There was one chapter on it where he was basically saying for 900 years he was basically saying for 900 years he was basically saying for 900 years only Jews were allowed to lend it only Jews were allowed to lend it only Jews were allowed to lend it interest and that there's actually like interest and that there's actually like interest and that there's actually like an evolutionary argument that that's a an evolutionary argument that that's a an evolutionary argument that that's a long enough period of time for there to long enough period of time for there to long enough period of time for there to actually like Jews basically evolved to actually like Jews basically evolved to actually like Jews basically evolved to be better at finance. I don't know this be better at finance. I don't know this be better at finance. I don't know this is a little bit above my pay grade but is a little bit above my pay grade but is a little bit above my pay grade but just saying a real a real accredited just saying a real a real accredited just saying a real a real accredited smart scientist did make that argument smart scientist did make that argument smart scientist did make that argument and that that might be true. Now, I and that that might be true. Now, I and that that might be true. Now, I would argue, and maybe we don't have would argue, and maybe we don't have would argue, and maybe we don't have time to get into all of this, but yeah, time to get into all of this, but yeah, time to get into all of this, but yeah, like lending it interest isn't just like lending it interest isn't just like lending it interest isn't just important. It's the only way to have important. It's the only way to have important. It's the only way to have anything resembling a modern economy. anything resembling a modern economy. anything resembling a modern economy. However, once you get into central However, once you get into central However, once you get into central banking and using the power of the state banking and using the power of the state banking and using the power of the state to shield to to, you know, give banks to shield to to, you know, give banks to shield to to, you know, give banks essentially government-like powers, then essentially government-like powers, then essentially government-like powers, then it becomes a thing that leads to that it becomes a thing that leads to that it becomes a thing that leads to that K-shaped economy that you're talking K-shaped economy that you're talking K-shaped economy that you're talking about and becomes exploit, you know, about and becomes exploit, you know, about and becomes exploit, you know, exploitative by nature. Um, now that exploitative by nature. Um, now that exploitative by nature. Um, now that being said, all of that is true and also being said, all of that is true and also being said, all of that is true and also it's true that the Israeli intelligence it's true that the Israeli intelligence it's true that the Israeli intelligence and the is Israeli government and the and the is Israeli government and the and the is Israeli government and the Israel lobby all kind of use a lot of Israel lobby all kind of use a lot of Israel lobby all kind of use a lot of those dynamic. So they use the fact that those dynamic. So they use the fact that those dynamic. 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If you look at some of those polls where it you look at some of those polls where it you look at some of those polls where it really is like amazing how much support really is like amazing how much support really is like amazing how much support for Israel has collapsed, it's been for Israel has collapsed, it's been for Israel has collapsed, it's been since the destruction of Gaza. And so I since the destruction of Gaza. And so I since the destruction of Gaza. And so I just do think it becomes a very just do think it becomes a very just do think it becomes a very convenient excuse for a lot of convenient excuse for a lot of convenient excuse for a lot of pro-Israel people to say that um oh this pro-Israel people to say that um oh this pro-Israel people to say that um oh this is just like all those other prog like is just like all those other prog like is just like all those other prog like it has nothing to do with the genocide it has nothing to do with the genocide it has nothing to do with the genocide in 4K that we you you are forced against in 4K that we you you are forced against in 4K that we you you are forced against your will to fund and watch like that. I your will to fund and watch like that. I your will to fund and watch like that. I mean, that seems to overwhelmingly be mean, that seems to overwhelmingly be mean, that seems to overwhelmingly be the obvious like, you know, prime driver the obvious like, you know, prime driver the obvious like, you know, prime driver of what's at least happened over the of what's at least happened over the of what's at least happened over the last couple of years. And then there's last couple of years. And then there's last couple of years. And then there's also just a lot of other factors. Like, also just a lot of other factors. Like, also just a lot of other factors. Like, look, this is I'm I'm not a person who look, this is I'm I'm not a person who look, this is I'm I'm not a person who like blames the Jews for everything. And like blames the Jews for everything. And like blames the Jews for everything. And I've always been a guy who's like, "No, I've always been a guy who's like, "No, I've always been a guy who's like, "No, what happens is essentially what happens is essentially what happens is essentially America created a world empire. We America created a world empire. We America created a world empire. We created a central bank and an income tax created a central bank and an income tax created a central bank and an income tax and a regulatory state and a and a regulatory state and a and a regulatory state and a military-industrial complex and this military-industrial complex and this military-industrial complex and this huge mess. And it was it was ripe to be huge mess. And it was it was ripe to be huge mess. And it was it was ripe to be taken over by someone some everyone's taken over by someone some everyone's taken over by someone some everyone's always jockeying for position. I mean, always jockeying for position. I mean, always jockeying for position. I mean, when the government when you have a when the government when you have a when the government when you have a government that spends over $7 trillion government that spends over $7 trillion government that spends over $7 trillion every year, it's the biggest every year, it's the biggest every year, it's the biggest organization in the history of the organization in the history of the organization in the history of the world. Of course, everybody's going to world. Of course, everybody's going to world. Of course, everybody's going to be competing over who gets the levers of be competing over who gets the levers of be competing over who gets the levers of power there. Now, Israel, honestly, power there. Now, Israel, honestly, power there. Now, Israel, honestly, Israel was a creation of Europe. It was Israel was a creation of Europe. It was Israel was a creation of Europe. It was a creation of um European empires and a creation of um European empires and a creation of um European empires and big bankers and all of that. But that big bankers and all of that. But that big bankers and all of that. But that doesn't mean there weren't some people doesn't mean there weren't some people doesn't mean there weren't some people who really ideologically believed in it. who really ideologically believed in it. who really ideologically believed in it. And so, again, you have all of these And so, again, you have all of these And so, again, you have all of these things going on at once. And then the things going on at once. And then the things going on at once. And then the the other fact is just that in this the other fact is just that in this the other fact is just that in this game, which Israel did not invent, game, which Israel did not invent, game, which Israel did not invent, Israel was only created in 1948. you Israel was only created in 1948. you Israel was only created in 1948. you know th this has been going on for a know th this has been going on for a know th this has been going on for a very long time. But in this game of very long time. But in this game of very long time. But in this game of intelligence agencies and central banks intelligence agencies and central banks intelligence agencies and central banks and all types of, you know, the Epstein and all types of, you know, the Epstein and all types of, you know, the Epstein class, whatever exactly all of that is. class, whatever exactly all of that is. class, whatever exactly all of that is. Um, you know, I do think that the MSAD Um, you know, I do think that the MSAD Um, you know, I do think that the MSAD had a tremendous advantage that other had a tremendous advantage that other had a tremendous advantage that other intelligence agencies would have intelligence agencies would have intelligence agencies would have exploited if they had had that exploited if they had had that exploited if they had had that advantage. But you you had uh a diaspora advantage. But you you had uh a diaspora advantage. But you you had uh a diaspora of Jews, like not a ton of Jews, but of Jews, like not a ton of Jews, but of Jews, like not a ton of Jews, but there's some in like all these different there's some in like all these different there's some in like all these different places. And the collective self-identity places. And the collective self-identity places. And the collective self-identity of Jewish people was that like look, of Jewish people was that like look, of Jewish people was that like look, they tried to exterminate us in World they tried to exterminate us in World they tried to exterminate us in World War II. That is why we have Israel. War II. That is why we have Israel. War II. That is why we have Israel. Israel is the not but for them, we would Israel is the not but for them, we would Israel is the not but for them, we would be in another holocaust. This is be in another holocaust. This is be in another holocaust. This is something that people really genuinely something that people really genuinely something that people really genuinely believe. And I think that made it very believe. And I think that made it very believe. And I think that made it very easy for MSAD. I mean, imagine if anyone easy for MSAD. I mean, imagine if anyone easy for MSAD. I mean, imagine if anyone else, imagine if British intelligence or else, imagine if British intelligence or else, imagine if British intelligence or American intelligence had an advantage American intelligence had an advantage American intelligence had an advantage like that. Do you think we, you know, like that. Do you think we, you know, like that. Do you think we, you know, like if there were a bunch of Americans like if there were a bunch of Americans like if there were a bunch of Americans in Iran right now who it was that easy in Iran right now who it was that easy in Iran right now who it was that easy for the CIA to just call up and go, for the CIA to just call up and go, for the CIA to just call up and go, "Hey, you want to serve your country? "Hey, you want to serve your country? "Hey, you want to serve your country? You know, you want to help your people? You know, you want to help your people? You know, you want to help your people? You think we wouldn't be taking You think we wouldn't be taking You think we wouldn't be taking advantage of that?" And so I I think advantage of that?" And so I I think advantage of that?" And so I I think this is, you know, all of this is kind this is, you know, all of this is kind this is, you know, all of this is kind of part of the very complicated story of of part of the very complicated story of of part of the very complicated story of how we got here. Um, and I'll just say how we got here. Um, and I'll just say how we got here. Um, and I'll just say real quickly to to your point before, real quickly to to your point before, real quickly to to your point before, right? Like there are if you look at right? Like there are if you look at right? Like there are if you look at like uh like someone like John Rolls or like uh like someone like John Rolls or like uh like someone like John Rolls or um or uh Kanes, right? Uh John Maynard um or uh Kanes, right? Uh John Maynard um or uh Kanes, right? Uh John Maynard Kanes there, these were intellectuals Kanes there, these were intellectuals Kanes there, these were intellectuals who made arguments. I would say both who made arguments. I would say both who made arguments. I would say both very flawed arguments, but they were very flawed arguments, but they were very flawed arguments, but they were intellectuals who made arguments. And intellectuals who made arguments. And intellectuals who made arguments. And then there were real people who really then there were real people who really then there were real people who really agree with them and read their books and agree with them and read their books and agree with them and read their books and were persuaded by them and believe in were persuaded by them and believe in were persuaded by them and believe in this thing. But that's not why they took this thing. But that's not why they took this thing. But that's not why they took over politics. You know what I mean? over politics. You know what I mean? over politics. You know what I mean? Like it's not like it's not like the Like it's not like it's not like the Like it's not like it's not like the government was sitting there and going, government was sitting there and going, government was sitting there and going, you know, we've weighed the arguments of you know, we've weighed the arguments of you know, we've weighed the arguments of FA Hayek verse John Maynard Kanes and we FA Hayek verse John Maynard Kanes and we FA Hayek verse John Maynard Kanes and we are more persuaded by Keynesian econ. are more persuaded by Keynesian econ. are more persuaded by Keynesian econ. It's just that well Keynesian economics It's just that well Keynesian economics It's just that well Keynesian economics says the government gets a lot more says the government gets a lot more says the government gets a lot more power and FAK economics says they get power and FAK economics says they get power and FAK economics says they get like basically no power. So obviously like basically no power. So obviously like basically no power. So obviously the government's like, "Hey, we like the government's like, "Hey, we like the government's like, "Hey, we like this guy." So then there's this thing this guy." So then there's this thing this guy." So then there's this thing where there are ideologues, there are where there are ideologues, there are where there are ideologues, there are people who believe in things, but then people who believe in things, but then people who believe in things, but then they're also used in a way that it's they're also used in a way that it's they're also used in a way that it's like like I don't believe that Lheed like like I don't believe that Lheed like like I don't believe that Lheed Martin is really committed to greater Martin is really committed to greater Martin is really committed to greater Israel. You know what I'm saying? Like I Israel. You know what I'm saying? Like I Israel. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't think that's part of their don't think that's part of their don't think that's part of their thinking. It's just like, oh, they like thinking. It's just like, oh, they like thinking. It's just like, oh, they like those guys cuz those guys say we should those guys cuz those guys say we should those guys cuz those guys say we should have a $ 1.5 trillion defense budget have a $ 1.5 trillion defense budget have a $ 1.5 trillion defense budget next year. Uh or at least they don't next year. Uh or at least they don't next year. Uh or at least they don't call it that anymore. A war budget, call it that anymore. A war budget, call it that anymore. A war budget, which is a better term for it. But which is a better term for it. But which is a better term for it. But anyway, so if that makes sense, I think anyway, so if that makes sense, I think anyway, so if that makes sense, I think there's all of these things are there's all of these things are there's all of these things are happening at once. happening at once. happening at once. >> Yeah, all of that makes sense to me. The >> Yeah, all of that makes sense to me. The >> Yeah, all of that makes sense to me. The thing that I'm very specifically zoomed thing that I'm very specifically zoomed thing that I'm very specifically zoomed in on is I have uh at least for some in on is I have uh at least for some in on is I have uh at least for some stretch of my career, I have decided to stretch of my career, I have decided to stretch of my career, I have decided to try and convince people that it is in try and convince people that it is in try and convince people that it is in their best interest to understand their best interest to understand their best interest to understand uh all of the pain and suffering that uh all of the pain and suffering that uh all of the pain and suffering that they're going through right now is they're going through right now is they're going through right now is because of economics and that it feels because of economics and that it feels because of economics and that it feels to me, not feels to me, it is to me, not feels to me, it is to me, not feels to me, it is mathematically certain that America is mathematically certain that America is mathematically certain that America is going to drive itself off of a cliff uh going to drive itself off of a cliff uh going to drive itself off of a cliff uh fiscally and that that will have fiscally and that that will have fiscally and that that will have devastating consequences. And as I yell devastating consequences. And as I yell devastating consequences. And as I yell into a mic in a similar fashion to you, into a mic in a similar fashion to you, into a mic in a similar fashion to you, trying to get people to pay attention to trying to get people to pay attention to trying to get people to pay attention to economics, uh, they keep wanting to talk economics, uh, they keep wanting to talk economics, uh, they keep wanting to talk about the Jews. And I'm just like, for about the Jews. And I'm just like, for about the Jews. And I'm just like, for sake. Like, this is one of those sake. Like, this is one of those sake. Like, this is one of those where, again, I'm not denying in any where, again, I'm not denying in any where, again, I'm not denying in any way, shape, or form. In fact, I think I way, shape, or form. In fact, I think I way, shape, or form. In fact, I think I can make a very compelling argument for can make a very compelling argument for can make a very compelling argument for why the Jewish lobby is so grotesqually why the Jewish lobby is so grotesqually why the Jewish lobby is so grotesqually powerful and has to be paid attention to powerful and has to be paid attention to powerful and has to be paid attention to better than most people who will tell better than most people who will tell better than most people who will tell you that the Jews are the problem, which you that the Jews are the problem, which you that the Jews are the problem, which I'll I'll do very fast. I'll I'll do very fast. I'll I'll do very fast. Uh when you look at the Jewish lobby, Uh when you look at the Jewish lobby, Uh when you look at the Jewish lobby, the first of all, it's very important to the first of all, it's very important to the first of all, it's very important to understand that I mean the Jewish lobby understand that I mean the Jewish lobby understand that I mean the Jewish lobby in the way that John Mirshimer means the in the way that John Mirshimer means the in the way that John Mirshimer means the Jewish lobby a far broader thing. It is Jewish lobby a far broader thing. It is Jewish lobby a far broader thing. It is not just APEC. It is it is a much bigger not just APEC. It is it is a much bigger not just APEC. It is it is a much bigger thing. And when you look at what makes thing. And when you look at what makes thing. And when you look at what makes them so effective, it isn't the money them so effective, it isn't the money them so effective, it isn't the money that they spend. It is the influence per that they spend. It is the influence per that they spend. It is the influence per dollar. And their influence per dollar dollar. And their influence per dollar dollar. And their influence per dollar is unparalleled. is unparalleled. is unparalleled. Maybe in human history, certainly right Maybe in human history, certainly right Maybe in human history, certainly right now, nobody gets the effectiveness. If now, nobody gets the effectiveness. If now, nobody gets the effectiveness. If you want to understand the mechanism by you want to understand the mechanism by you want to understand the mechanism by which they get that effectiveness, it is which they get that effectiveness, it is which they get that effectiveness, it is to what you were saying before. You have to what you were saying before. You have to what you were saying before. You have a Jewish diaspora. that diaspora feels a a Jewish diaspora. that diaspora feels a a Jewish diaspora. that diaspora feels a deep some percentage feels a deep deep some percentage feels a deep deep some percentage feels a deep allegiance to having their own nation. allegiance to having their own nation. allegiance to having their own nation. Cool. Now they apply a a selective Cool. Now they apply a a selective Cool. Now they apply a a selective pressure and I mean from an evolutionary pressure and I mean from an evolutionary pressure and I mean from an evolutionary lens they they apply a selective lens they they apply a selective lens they they apply a selective pressure on members of Congress and the pressure on members of Congress and the pressure on members of Congress and the Senate. It is absolutely brilliant. It Senate. It is absolutely brilliant. It Senate. It is absolutely brilliant. It has been going on for a very long time. has been going on for a very long time. has been going on for a very long time. And they will find these people when And they will find these people when And they will find these people when they're like at the city council level they're like at the city council level they're like at the city council level and they will work with them for decades and they will work with them for decades and they will work with them for decades as they climb the political ladder, as they climb the political ladder, as they climb the political ladder, investing in them when they're cheap, investing in them when they're cheap, investing in them when they're cheap, making sure that the only people that making sure that the only people that making sure that the only people that successfully climb the political ladder successfully climb the political ladder successfully climb the political ladder in America are people that believe in in America are people that believe in in America are people that believe in the pro-Israel cause. Okay, that should the pro-Israel cause. Okay, that should the pro-Israel cause. Okay, that should be terrifying to anybody. It's so be terrifying to anybody. It's so be terrifying to anybody. It's so brilliant and people should look at that brilliant and people should look at that brilliant and people should look at that and go, "Hey, this is a thing that we and go, "Hey, this is a thing that we and go, "Hey, this is a thing that we should all be looking at." But huh, it's should all be looking at." But huh, it's should all be looking at." But huh, it's interesting. It starts breaking down in interesting. It starts breaking down in interesting. It starts breaking down in terms of its predictive validity as we terms of its predictive validity as we terms of its predictive validity as we get to what for instance Trump is going get to what for instance Trump is going get to what for instance Trump is going to do next in Iran or what Obama was to do next in Iran or what Obama was to do next in Iran or what Obama was going to do next in Iran, which is to me going to do next in Iran, which is to me going to do next in Iran, which is to me Obama and the nuclear deal is like the Obama and the nuclear deal is like the Obama and the nuclear deal is like the smoking gun for America is not a puppet smoking gun for America is not a puppet smoking gun for America is not a puppet to Israel. uh and that if the drum beat to Israel. uh and that if the drum beat to Israel. uh and that if the drum beat that you're banging is that every bad that you're banging is that every bad that you're banging is that every bad thing that we see playing out right now thing that we see playing out right now thing that we see playing out right now is because Israel is dragging us into is because Israel is dragging us into is because Israel is dragging us into another foreign war, then I'm just like, another foreign war, then I'm just like, another foreign war, then I'm just like, "Oh my god, I'm not able to get people "Oh my god, I'm not able to get people "Oh my god, I'm not able to get people to pay attention." Even though I have to pay attention." Even though I have to pay attention." Even though I have just I hope articulated very clearly how just I hope articulated very clearly how just I hope articulated very clearly how much influence they have, it still much influence they have, it still much influence they have, it still breaks down in the face of economics. breaks down in the face of economics. breaks down in the face of economics. And when you economics is physics, And when you economics is physics, And when you economics is physics, economics is the way that money works economics is the way that money works economics is the way that money works collides with human nature and the way collides with human nature and the way collides with human nature and the way that it works and it produces an that it works and it produces an that it works and it produces an outcome. A K-shaped economy to your outcome. A K-shaped economy to your outcome. A K-shaped economy to your point has very knowable causes and they point has very knowable causes and they point has very knowable causes and they are Keynesian economics or modern are Keynesian economics or modern are Keynesian economics or modern monetary theory. You need a central monetary theory. You need a central monetary theory. You need a central bank. You need the ability to print bank. You need the ability to print bank. You need the ability to print money. It works a thousandfold more for money. It works a thousandfold more for money. It works a thousandfold more for whatever country is the reserve currency whatever country is the reserve currency whatever country is the reserve currency because they can dilute the inflation because they can dilute the inflation because they can dilute the inflation across everybody that holds it. And so across everybody that holds it. And so across everybody that holds it. And so the the deranging moment that we live in the the deranging moment that we live in the the deranging moment that we live in is nothing is entirely one thing but if is nothing is entirely one thing but if is nothing is entirely one thing but if you want to talk about something that is you want to talk about something that is you want to talk about something that is north of 51% it would be our banking north of 51% it would be our banking north of 51% it would be our banking economic structure is creating this economic structure is creating this economic structure is creating this madness and again I know I'm repeating madness and again I know I'm repeating madness and again I know I'm repeating myself but to every time that I go to myself but to every time that I go to myself but to every time that I go to talk about that thing it's like this uh talk about that thing it's like this uh talk about that thing it's like this uh the Jews are dragging us into another the Jews are dragging us into another the Jews are dragging us into another war is the thing that's getting all the war is the thing that's getting all the war is the thing that's getting all the attention and And it it is stopping attention and And it it is stopping attention and And it it is stopping people from actually solving the people from actually solving the people from actually solving the problem. And for my money, if you look problem. And for my money, if you look problem. And for my money, if you look at Trump and go, "Oh, this guy sees I at Trump and go, "Oh, this guy sees I at Trump and go, "Oh, this guy sees I have to grow my way out of this problem. have to grow my way out of this problem. have to grow my way out of this problem. I'm not going to spend less money." He I'm not going to spend less money." He I'm not going to spend less money." He literally said it out loud to your literally said it out loud to your literally said it out loud to your point. He's like, "Hey, I know a lot of point. He's like, "Hey, I know a lot of point. He's like, "Hey, I know a lot of you guys want to be fiscally you guys want to be fiscally you guys want to be fiscally conservative, but we have to get conservative, but we have to get conservative, but we have to get reelected." And so I was just like, "Oh, reelected." And so I was just like, "Oh, reelected." And so I was just like, "Oh, there is no hope." And so he there is no hope." And so he there is no hope." And so he understands, okay, I've got to deal with understands, okay, I've got to deal with understands, okay, I've got to deal with China because, and this gets into the China because, and this gets into the China because, and this gets into the complexities of there's more here, but complexities of there's more here, but complexities of there's more here, but for America to be in a good position as for America to be in a good position as for America to be in a good position as we go into a multipolar world, we've got we go into a multipolar world, we've got we go into a multipolar world, we've got to diminish China as much as we can. to diminish China as much as we can. to diminish China as much as we can. Like the and I'll be interested to see Like the and I'll be interested to see Like the and I'll be interested to see if you disagree with this. The Jewish if you disagree with this. The Jewish if you disagree with this. The Jewish lobby to me, no matter how powerful, lobby to me, no matter how powerful, lobby to me, no matter how powerful, Israel, no matter how powerful, does not Israel, no matter how powerful, does not Israel, no matter how powerful, does not explain Venezuela. And when you look at explain Venezuela. And when you look at explain Venezuela. And when you look at Venezuela, it's like, "Oh, this is Trump Venezuela, it's like, "Oh, this is Trump Venezuela, it's like, "Oh, this is Trump going, I want to control that oil going, I want to control that oil going, I want to control that oil because that's economically because that's economically because that's economically advantageous. It also helps me control advantageous. It also helps me control advantageous. It also helps me control China. I like that." And then if you China. I like that." And then if you China. I like that." And then if you look at Iran and go, yes, I get it. The look at Iran and go, yes, I get it. The look at Iran and go, yes, I get it. The Israel lobby is desperate for us to go Israel lobby is desperate for us to go Israel lobby is desperate for us to go into Iran, but if you're Trump, you've into Iran, but if you're Trump, you've into Iran, but if you're Trump, you've got to make sure that you secure those got to make sure that you secure those got to make sure that you secure those dollars from the GCC countries to invest dollars from the GCC countries to invest dollars from the GCC countries to invest in America again as a way to diversify in America again as a way to diversify in America again as a way to diversify against China, to build things here in against China, to build things here in against China, to build things here in America. America. America. And so now all of a sudden I'm like I And so now all of a sudden I'm like I And so now all of a sudden I'm like I don't even need to think about the fact don't even need to think about the fact don't even need to think about the fact that it's that we have an alignment with that it's that we have an alignment with that it's that we have an alignment with Israel for us to be in Iran. Especially Israel for us to be in Iran. Especially Israel for us to be in Iran. Especially the lunatic way that he's doing it where the lunatic way that he's doing it where the lunatic way that he's doing it where it's like uh you're not going to leave it's like uh you're not going to leave it's like uh you're not going to leave this better for Israel when you leave this better for Israel when you leave this better for Israel when you leave PS. And so I cannot imagine Israel's PS. And so I cannot imagine Israel's PS. And so I cannot imagine Israel's like yeah this is great. He's going to like yeah this is great. He's going to like yeah this is great. He's going to pull out leave them completely holding pull out leave them completely holding pull out leave them completely holding the bag. They're going to have to keep the bag. They're going to have to keep the bag. They're going to have to keep dealing with a now really pissed off dealing with a now really pissed off dealing with a now really pissed off Iran. So, but the economic argument of Iran. So, but the economic argument of Iran. So, but the economic argument of well, if I can get control of this, I'm well, if I can get control of this, I'm well, if I can get control of this, I'm in a better position. If I can't get in a better position. If I can't get in a better position. If I can't get control of it, I'm still in a better control of it, I'm still in a better control of it, I'm still in a better position because now the world's going position because now the world's going position because now the world's going to come to us for oil. So, it's like to come to us for oil. So, it's like to come to us for oil. So, it's like again going back to this analogy of when again going back to this analogy of when again going back to this analogy of when I think that Israel is controlling the I think that Israel is controlling the I think that Israel is controlling the world, I feel like I'm groping on an world, I feel like I'm groping on an world, I feel like I'm groping on an object with mittens. It's hey, I can object with mittens. It's hey, I can object with mittens. It's hey, I can feel the general shape. I get why we're feel the general shape. I get why we're feel the general shape. I get why we're in the region, but when I go, "Oh, this in the region, but when I go, "Oh, this in the region, but when I go, "Oh, this is economics for a president who has is economics for a president who has is economics for a president who has mapped for me to end up on Mount mapped for me to end up on Mount mapped for me to end up on Mount Rushmore. I've got to grow my way out of Rushmore. I've got to grow my way out of Rushmore. I've got to grow my way out of this insane deficit. I've got to like this insane deficit. I've got to like this insane deficit. I've got to like push China down and then all of the push China down and then all of the push China down and then all of the sudden gloves are off and I can start sudden gloves are off and I can start sudden gloves are off and I can start feeling the intricacies of what's feeling the intricacies of what's feeling the intricacies of what's happening." happening." happening." >> Yeah. Okay. So, it's all very >> Yeah. Okay. So, it's all very >> Yeah. Okay. So, it's all very interesting and you know, I do think um interesting and you know, I do think um interesting and you know, I do think um look to to your point because there's a look to to your point because there's a look to to your point because there's a lot there. I'll just start with this, lot there. I'll just start with this, lot there. I'll just start with this, but yeah, look, I do think like I don't but yeah, look, I do think like I don't but yeah, look, I do think like I don't think the Israel lobby opposed the think the Israel lobby opposed the think the Israel lobby opposed the Venezuela strike, but it certainly Venezuela strike, but it certainly Venezuela strike, but it certainly wasn't the main driving factor of it. wasn't the main driving factor of it. wasn't the main driving factor of it. And for that matter, you know, the And for that matter, you know, the And for that matter, you know, the Israel lobby really wasn't the main Israel lobby really wasn't the main Israel lobby really wasn't the main driving factor in Afghanistan. They driving factor in Afghanistan. They driving factor in Afghanistan. They didn't really particularly care about uh didn't really particularly care about uh didn't really particularly care about uh the Taliban ruling Afghanistan. Um, and the Taliban ruling Afghanistan. Um, and the Taliban ruling Afghanistan. Um, and I also don't think that uh backing the I also don't think that uh backing the I also don't think that uh backing the Saudi war in uh Yemen was largely driven Saudi war in uh Yemen was largely driven Saudi war in uh Yemen was largely driven by the Israel lobby. I mean, I've read a by the Israel lobby. I mean, I've read a by the Israel lobby. I mean, I've read a lot about it and I know this now people lot about it and I know this now people lot about it and I know this now people suspect that that one might have been, suspect that that one might have been, suspect that that one might have been, but really Israel's issue with the but really Israel's issue with the but really Israel's issue with the Houthis kind of came after all of that Houthis kind of came after all of that Houthis kind of came after all of that and from everything I've read about it, and from everything I've read about it, and from everything I've read about it, it was really our relationship with it was really our relationship with it was really our relationship with Saudi Arabia was really what pushed uh Saudi Arabia was really what pushed uh Saudi Arabia was really what pushed uh the Obama administration to start back the Obama administration to start back the Obama administration to start back in that. You know, Saudi Arabia was in that. You know, Saudi Arabia was in that. You know, Saudi Arabia was upset um also, I mean, Israel was too, upset um also, I mean, Israel was too, upset um also, I mean, Israel was too, but they were also very upset about the but they were also very upset about the but they were also very upset about the Iran deal and they were also very upset Iran deal and they were also very upset Iran deal and they were also very upset after uh toppling Iraq had basically after uh toppling Iraq had basically after uh toppling Iraq had basically just given Iran the entire region. Um just given Iran the entire region. Um just given Iran the entire region. Um and so you know like yes there are other and so you know like yes there are other and so you know like yes there are other factors that that play into this too. factors that that play into this too. factors that that play into this too. It's also you know if your starting It's also you know if your starting It's also you know if your starting point is that Israel is the puppet point is that Israel is the puppet point is that Israel is the puppet master and has full control over the US master and has full control over the US master and has full control over the US then yes I think something like the Iran then yes I think something like the Iran then yes I think something like the Iran deal is going to kind of blow up that deal is going to kind of blow up that deal is going to kind of blow up that position cuz well if that's true how position cuz well if that's true how position cuz well if that's true how come there was this thing they really come there was this thing they really come there was this thing they really didn't want but they still got it didn't want but they still got it didn't want but they still got it anyway. But if your starting point is anyway. But if your starting point is anyway. But if your starting point is just like they have way too much just like they have way too much just like they have way too much influence then the exception kind of influence then the exception kind of influence then the exception kind of becomes the exception that proves the becomes the exception that proves the becomes the exception that proves the rule. I mean, you could I could point to rule. I mean, you could I could point to rule. I mean, you could I could point to some example of where I did something some example of where I did something some example of where I did something that my wife really didn't want me to that my wife really didn't want me to that my wife really didn't want me to do, but the conclusion from that do, but the conclusion from that do, but the conclusion from that wouldn't be that she has no influence on wouldn't be that she has no influence on wouldn't be that she has no influence on me. It would just be that in that one me. It would just be that in that one me. It would just be that in that one case, I didn't go along with the case, I didn't go along with the case, I didn't go along with the pressure she was putting on me cuz we pressure she was putting on me cuz we pressure she was putting on me cuz we had a disagreement or whatever. Um, now had a disagreement or whatever. Um, now had a disagreement or whatever. Um, now to your point, you know, I also think, to your point, you know, I also think, to your point, you know, I also think, and this is totally speculating, but I and this is totally speculating, but I and this is totally speculating, but I do think um, you know, there are the do think um, you know, there are the do think um, you know, there are the political incentives and that's part of political incentives and that's part of political incentives and that's part of this reality here. And I I think that, this reality here. And I I think that, this reality here. And I I think that, you know, Donald Trump you know, Donald Trump you know, Donald Trump really and and maybe part of this is really and and maybe part of this is really and and maybe part of this is like a miscalculation on my part, but like a miscalculation on my part, but like a miscalculation on my part, but last summer when Donald Trump hit us last summer when Donald Trump hit us last summer when Donald Trump hit us with the onetwo punch of uh covering up with the onetwo punch of uh covering up with the onetwo punch of uh covering up the Epstein scandal and launching the the Epstein scandal and launching the the Epstein scandal and launching the 12-day war, a lot of people like me were 12-day war, a lot of people like me were 12-day war, a lot of people like me were like, "Well, screw you. We're done with like, "Well, screw you. We're done with like, "Well, screw you. We're done with you." like not like these weren't you." like not like these weren't you." like not like these weren't offenses that were like, "Hey, I really offenses that were like, "Hey, I really offenses that were like, "Hey, I really don't like that he did this, but if he don't like that he did this, but if he don't like that he did this, but if he does this and this, he could get me back does this and this, he could get me back does this and this, he could get me back on board." It was like, "We're done. on board." It was like, "We're done. on board." It was like, "We're done. Screw you. You've betrayed all of us. Screw you. You've betrayed all of us. Screw you. You've betrayed all of us. You're Bush and Obama to us now." And I You're Bush and Obama to us now." And I You're Bush and Obama to us now." And I think in some I think there were enough think in some I think there were enough think in some I think there were enough people like that that it kind of changed people like that that it kind of changed people like that that it kind of changed the political incentive a little bit. the political incentive a little bit. the political incentive a little bit. It's like, "Okay, well, I already lost It's like, "Okay, well, I already lost It's like, "Okay, well, I already lost those guys. you know, I've already those guys. you know, I've already those guys. you know, I've already tried. You know, he's he's if he ever tried. You know, he's he's if he ever tried. You know, he's he's if he ever was trying to drain the swamp at some was trying to drain the swamp at some was trying to drain the swamp at some point. I think at a certain point you point. I think at a certain point you point. I think at a certain point you realize that's just not that's actually realize that's just not that's actually realize that's just not that's actually not possible from the current position not possible from the current position not possible from the current position of president of the United States of of president of the United States of of president of the United States of America. Again, you kind of in America. Again, you kind of in America. Again, you kind of in Washington DC, you kind you can't really Washington DC, you kind you can't really Washington DC, you kind you can't really swim against the current, but you could swim against the current, but you could swim against the current, but you could swim with the current all you want to. swim with the current all you want to. swim with the current all you want to. So like the president of the United So like the president of the United So like the president of the United States of America has enormous power, States of America has enormous power, States of America has enormous power, more power than any king or monarch or more power than any king or monarch or more power than any king or monarch or dictator throughout human history had dictator throughout human history had dictator throughout human history had when it comes to offensive military when it comes to offensive military when it comes to offensive military engagements, right? You have the biggest engagements, right? You have the biggest engagements, right? You have the biggest most powerful army in the history of the most powerful army in the history of the most powerful army in the history of the world. You can literally drone bomb a world. You can literally drone bomb a world. You can literally drone bomb a wedding in Yemen tomorrow if you want wedding in Yemen tomorrow if you want wedding in Yemen tomorrow if you want to. Like you you want to do and you to. Like you you want to do and you to. Like you you want to do and you don't need approval from Congress. You don't need approval from Congress. You don't need approval from Congress. You know, whatever they'll say about the know, whatever they'll say about the know, whatever they'll say about the Constitution or the War Powers Act. In Constitution or the War Powers Act. In Constitution or the War Powers Act. In effect, none of it exists. The president effect, none of it exists. The president effect, none of it exists. The president can do whatever he wants to as is can do whatever he wants to as is can do whatever he wants to as is demonstrated by Donald Trump just this demonstrated by Donald Trump just this demonstrated by Donald Trump just this morning announced it's the end of morning announced it's the end of morning announced it's the end of civilization in Iran tonight evidently. civilization in Iran tonight evidently. civilization in Iran tonight evidently. You know this one man can do that. But You know this one man can do that. But You know this one man can do that. But he has zero power to roll back the he has zero power to roll back the he has zero power to roll back the military-industrial complex. Try it. military-industrial complex. Try it. military-industrial complex. Try it. Good luck. You'll be compromised, taken Good luck. You'll be compromised, taken Good luck. You'll be compromised, taken out, framed, something. And so at a out, framed, something. And so at a out, framed, something. And so at a certain point now we're in Donald certain point now we're in Donald certain point now we're in Donald Trump's, you know, sixth year of being Trump's, you know, sixth year of being Trump's, you know, sixth year of being president. I think perhaps he kind of president. I think perhaps he kind of president. I think perhaps he kind of concluded that there's no being the concluded that there's no being the concluded that there's no being the greatest president ever going that way, greatest president ever going that way, greatest president ever going that way, but I could be the greatest president but I could be the greatest president but I could be the greatest president ever going this way. I could go topple ever going this way. I could go topple ever going this way. I could go topple all of these regimes and then he's got all of these regimes and then he's got all of these regimes and then he's got the war hawks in his ear convincing him the war hawks in his ear convincing him the war hawks in his ear convincing him that, you know, this will work out great that, you know, this will work out great that, you know, this will work out great if if you go and do it. And Venezuela if if you go and do it. And Venezuela if if you go and do it. And Venezuela being I wouldn't say it worked out being I wouldn't say it worked out being I wouldn't say it worked out great, but it wasn't a catastrophe. And great, but it wasn't a catastrophe. And great, but it wasn't a catastrophe. And that probably really pushed him in this that probably really pushed him in this that probably really pushed him in this direction as well. But to your broader direction as well. But to your broader direction as well. But to your broader point that you were making, um, point that you were making, um, point that you were making, um, you know, dude, this is always the you know, dude, this is always the you know, dude, this is always the battle that we're up against is that, battle that we're up against is that, battle that we're up against is that, you know, racialism is like catnip to you know, racialism is like catnip to you know, racialism is like catnip to the plebs. You know, people love it. It the plebs. You know, people love it. It the plebs. You know, people love it. It it plays on something. And look, I even it plays on something. And look, I even it plays on something. And look, I even find myself being guilty about this, find myself being guilty about this, find myself being guilty about this, right? Because I'll I'll be somebody who right? Because I'll I'll be somebody who right? Because I'll I'll be somebody who completely agrees with all of your completely agrees with all of your completely agrees with all of your assessments there that we should really assessments there that we should really assessments there that we should really be focused on economics that really this be focused on economics that really this be focused on economics that really this is the only reason why there's even a is the only reason why there's even a is the only reason why there's even a thing to hijack is because we created thing to hijack is because we created thing to hijack is because we created this, you know, like horrific system of this, you know, like horrific system of this, you know, like horrific system of central banking and giant um giant central banking and giant um giant central banking and giant um giant governments and huge, you know, governments and huge, you know, governments and huge, you know, regulatory capture games where regulatory capture games where regulatory capture games where essentially the whole economy is essentially the whole economy is essentially the whole economy is cartilized and and rigged on behalf of cartilized and and rigged on behalf of cartilized and and rigged on behalf of the powerful against the the regular, the powerful against the the regular, the powerful against the the regular, you know, working person. Um, but all you know, working person. Um, but all you know, working person. Um, but all throughout throughout American history, throughout throughout American history, throughout throughout American history, I know the the pivot to the culture war I know the the pivot to the culture war I know the the pivot to the culture war stuff always gets more attention. You stuff always gets more attention. You stuff always gets more attention. You know, it was always the if if you look know, it was always the if if you look know, it was always the if if you look back at the old right, what Murray back at the old right, what Murray back at the old right, what Murray Rothbart called the old right, which was Rothbart called the old right, which was Rothbart called the old right, which was really sabotaged by the new right. Now, really sabotaged by the new right. Now, really sabotaged by the new right. Now, these terms have flipped a little bit these terms have flipped a little bit these terms have flipped a little bit because he was talking about Bill because he was talking about Bill because he was talking about Bill Buckley and the neoconservatives being Buckley and the neoconservatives being Buckley and the neoconservatives being the new right. And he was talking about the new right. And he was talking about the new right. And he was talking about the old right being guys like Garrett the old right being guys like Garrett the old right being guys like Garrett Garrett and um you know uh Robert Taft Garrett and um you know uh Robert Taft Garrett and um you know uh Robert Taft and and guys like this but the old right and and guys like this but the old right and and guys like this but the old right they were always about uh sound money they were always about uh sound money they were always about uh sound money non-interventionist foreign policy non-interventionist foreign policy non-interventionist foreign policy limited government um you know they also limited government um you know they also limited government um you know they also had some stuff immigration controls and had some stuff immigration controls and had some stuff immigration controls and stuff like this and then after World War stuff like this and then after World War stuff like this and then after World War II when the military-industrial complex II when the military-industrial complex II when the military-industrial complex was really created and national review was really created and national review was really created and national review became this huge publication their whole became this huge publication their whole became this huge publication their whole they started purging all the members of they started purging all the members of they started purging all the members of the old right out. And then their whole the old right out. And then their whole the old right out. And then their whole line was, "No, you know what line was, "No, you know what line was, "No, you know what conservatism is?" Now, I know you conservatism is?" Now, I know you conservatism is?" Now, I know you thought conservatism was like sound thought conservatism was like sound thought conservatism was like sound money and restrained government, but no, money and restrained government, but no, money and restrained government, but no, listen, there's these homos. There's listen, there's these homos. There's listen, there's these homos. There's these homos out there and they're these homos out there and they're these homos out there and they're kissing each other and they're all, you kissing each other and they're all, you kissing each other and they're all, you know, and like they made it all like know, and like they made it all like know, and like they made it all like this culture war slop. This was like the this culture war slop. This was like the this culture war slop. This was like the original. And dude, it caught on like original. And dude, it caught on like original. And dude, it caught on like wildfire because who wants to talk wildfire because who wants to talk wildfire because who wants to talk about, you know, and look, I'll I'll be about, you know, and look, I'll I'll be about, you know, and look, I'll I'll be even myself, I've found myself in even myself, I've found myself in even myself, I've found myself in moments like through the Biden years, moments like through the Biden years, moments like through the Biden years, through the craziestness of like wokeism through the craziestness of like wokeism through the craziestness of like wokeism where I'm sitting here and I'm going, where I'm sitting here and I'm going, where I'm sitting here and I'm going, "Guys, we are burying ourselves under a "Guys, we are burying ourselves under a "Guys, we are burying ourselves under a mountain of debt and we're debasing our mountain of debt and we're debasing our mountain of debt and we're debasing our currency and it's ruining the American currency and it's ruining the American currency and it's ruining the American dream for the whole next generation." dream for the whole next generation." dream for the whole next generation." Like, look at it. They've destroyed this Like, look at it. They've destroyed this Like, look at it. They've destroyed this whole thing where like now you got these whole thing where like now you got these whole thing where like now you got these kids who are who are making 70k a year kids who are who are making 70k a year kids who are who are making 70k a year but they got 200 grand in student loan but they got 200 grand in student loan but they got 200 grand in student loan debt and the average house goes for debt and the average house goes for debt and the average house goes for $800,000 and they're like I don't know $800,000 and they're like I don't know $800,000 and they're like I don't know we the firsttime home buyer is 40 now in we the firsttime home buyer is 40 now in we the firsttime home buyer is 40 now in America like that that means you know if America like that that means you know if America like that that means you know if do you have conservative family values do you have conservative family values do you have conservative family values well that like there's no difference well that like there's no difference well that like there's no difference between economics and social issues it's between economics and social issues it's between economics and social issues it's all one thing if you can't buy a house all one thing if you can't buy a house all one thing if you can't buy a house till you're 40 then there goes the till you're 40 then there goes the till you're 40 then there goes the American dream there goes starting American dream there goes starting American dream there goes starting families young you Like it's all but families young you Like it's all but families young you Like it's all but then I got to say even as I'd be making then I got to say even as I'd be making then I got to say even as I'd be making that point, you see a video on libs of that point, you see a video on libs of that point, you see a video on libs of Tik Tok of some giving a lap Tik Tok of some giving a lap Tik Tok of some giving a lap dance to a seven-year-old and you're dance to a seven-year-old and you're dance to a seven-year-old and you're just like, "Yo, I want to I'm like ready just like, "Yo, I want to I'm like ready just like, "Yo, I want to I'm like ready to shoot someone like this is I've never to shoot someone like this is I've never to shoot someone like this is I've never been so angered in my life because you been so angered in my life because you been so angered in my life because you could feel it. It does it just plays on could feel it. It does it just plays on could feel it. It does it just plays on this tribal thing like it's us verse the this tribal thing like it's us verse the this tribal thing like it's us verse the other tribe who's coming trying to other tribe who's coming trying to other tribe who's coming trying to slaughter our children." And so again, slaughter our children." And so again, slaughter our children." And so again, like as and you've seen this look, it's like as and you've seen this look, it's like as and you've seen this look, it's through all of wokeism. Look how much through all of wokeism. Look how much through all of wokeism. Look how much racialism just like took over and racialism just like took over and racialism just like took over and destroyed the left in America. Like it. destroyed the left in America. Like it. destroyed the left in America. Like it. And look, I do think you're seeing a lot And look, I do think you're seeing a lot And look, I do think you're seeing a lot of that stuff with the with the low IQ of that stuff with the with the low IQ of that stuff with the with the low IQ anti-Jew kind of nonsense. Like even anti-Jew kind of nonsense. Like even anti-Jew kind of nonsense. Like even I've seen even Nick Fuentes I've seen on I've seen even Nick Fuentes I've seen on I've seen even Nick Fuentes I've seen on his show like ranting against how dumb his show like ranting against how dumb his show like ranting against how dumb some of the like open blame the Jews for some of the like open blame the Jews for some of the like open blame the Jews for everything is. So, you know, again, like everything is. So, you know, again, like everything is. So, you know, again, like all of these things are going on at all of these things are going on at all of these things are going on at once. My my best take on how to deal once. My my best take on how to deal once. My my best take on how to deal with that is, you know, I learned with that is, you know, I learned with that is, you know, I learned everything I know from Ron Paul. It's everything I know from Ron Paul. It's everything I know from Ron Paul. It's like you just tell the truth. You plant like you just tell the truth. You plant like you just tell the truth. You plant your flag here. You go, "No, no, no, your flag here. You go, "No, no, no, your flag here. You go, "No, no, no, guys. The problem isn't this group of guys. The problem isn't this group of guys. The problem isn't this group of people or this group of people. It's not people or this group of people. It's not people or this group of people. It's not any immutable characteristic or anyone's any immutable characteristic or anyone's any immutable characteristic or anyone's religious view." um that. Okay, so all religious view." um that. Okay, so all religious view." um that. Okay, so all of that being said, I'm against all the of that being said, I'm against all the of that being said, I'm against all the bigotry of all of this stuff, but I also bigotry of all of this stuff, but I also bigotry of all of this stuff, but I also will say that I think there's something will say that I think there's something will say that I think there's something that becomes a little bit messed up when that becomes a little bit messed up when that becomes a little bit messed up when there's there's so much focus on like there's there's so much focus on like there's there's so much focus on like the anti- anti-Jewish bigotry, which the anti- anti-Jewish bigotry, which the anti- anti-Jewish bigotry, which certainly I see in Twitter replies and certainly I see in Twitter replies and certainly I see in Twitter replies and YouTube comments and stuff like that, YouTube comments and stuff like that, YouTube comments and stuff like that, but then there's just like look, I don't but then there's just like look, I don't but then there's just like look, I don't know, it pales in comparison like I Over know, it pales in comparison like I Over know, it pales in comparison like I Over the last 15, 20 years, the anti-white the last 15, 20 years, the anti-white the last 15, 20 years, the anti-white bigotry has been orders of magnitude bigotry has been orders of magnitude bigotry has been orders of magnitude bigger than this and way more bigger than this and way more bigger than this and way more institutionalized. Like, you know, and institutionalized. Like, you know, and institutionalized. Like, you know, and part of this may be, as you said, the part of this may be, as you said, the part of this may be, as you said, the power of the Israel lobby, but then power of the Israel lobby, but then power of the Israel lobby, but then there's also like the anti-Muslim there's also like the anti-Muslim there's also like the anti-Muslim bigotry, which is just like outrageous bigotry, which is just like outrageous bigotry, which is just like outrageous and so much more accepted. like it in. and so much more accepted. like it in. and so much more accepted. like it in. So, for example, right, Nick Fuentes, uh So, for example, right, Nick Fuentes, uh So, for example, right, Nick Fuentes, uh I guess Kanye West had dinner with I guess Kanye West had dinner with I guess Kanye West had dinner with Donald Trump a few years ago and he Donald Trump a few years ago and he Donald Trump a few years ago and he brought Nick Fuentes along. This ended brought Nick Fuentes along. This ended brought Nick Fuentes along. This ended up being a huge controversy. up being a huge controversy. up being a huge controversy. >> Yes. Well, yeah. I mean, we'd all be >> Yes. Well, yeah. I mean, we'd all be >> Yes. Well, yeah. I mean, we'd all be interested to be at that dinner. Let's interested to be at that dinner. Let's interested to be at that dinner. Let's get real. Whoever you agree with. Um but get real. Whoever you agree with. Um but get real. Whoever you agree with. Um but this this was a huge controversy. Trump this this was a huge controversy. Trump this this was a huge controversy. Trump had to come out and denounce Fuentes. I had to come out and denounce Fuentes. I had to come out and denounce Fuentes. I didn't know who he was. He just ended up didn't know who he was. He just ended up didn't know who he was. He just ended up here. Blah blah blah. Laura Loomer has here. Blah blah blah. Laura Loomer has here. Blah blah blah. Laura Loomer has been working with the Trump campaign been working with the Trump campaign been working with the Trump campaign this whole time. And there's just no this whole time. And there's just no this whole time. And there's just no type like now there might be some people type like now there might be some people type like now there might be some people like me who point that out but there's like me who point that out but there's like me who point that out but there's no type of like the institutional no type of like the institutional no type of like the institutional pressure like he doesn't have to come pressure like he doesn't have to come pressure like he doesn't have to come out and go yo I'm so sorry that I have out and go yo I'm so sorry that I have out and go yo I'm so sorry that I have this clear anti-Muslim bigot working for this clear anti-Muslim bigot working for this clear anti-Muslim bigot working for me I and and the thing is she's so much me I and and the thing is she's so much me I and and the thing is she's so much worse than Fuentes like what she says worse than Fuentes like what she says worse than Fuentes like what she says about Muslims is so much worse than what about Muslims is so much worse than what about Muslims is so much worse than what he says about Jews and it's just accept he says about Jews and it's just accept he says about Jews and it's just accept I've done debates where people have I've done debates where people have I've done debates where people have argued to me on more than one occasion argued to me on more than one occasion argued to me on more than one occasion including Laura Loomer have argued to me including Laura Loomer have argued to me including Laura Loomer have argued to me that Palestinians don't have rights. that Palestinians don't have rights. that Palestinians don't have rights. >> They just straight up don't have rights >> They just straight up don't have rights >> They just straight up don't have rights >> or what? >> or what? >> or what? >> No, like there's no innocence. There's >> No, like there's no innocence. There's >> No, like there's no innocence. There's no in uh one of them was an objectivist no in uh one of them was an objectivist no in uh one of them was an objectivist actor, uh he argued that um because actor, uh he argued that um because actor, uh he argued that um because Hamas is the government there and Hamas is the government there and Hamas is the government there and because Hamas rejects the idea of because Hamas rejects the idea of because Hamas rejects the idea of natural rights, therefore the people natural rights, therefore the people natural rights, therefore the people there don't have natural rights. And there don't have natural rights. And there don't have natural rights. And Laura Loomer argued that there's no Laura Loomer argued that there's no Laura Loomer argued that there's no innocence there because Islam is so innocence there because Islam is so innocence there because Islam is so perverted. It's such a perverted belief perverted. It's such a perverted belief perverted. It's such a perverted belief system that you're already an aggressor system that you're already an aggressor system that you're already an aggressor just by believing in it. This is like just by believing in it. This is like just by believing in it. This is like the actual Now, I'm just saying and I the actual Now, I'm just saying and I the actual Now, I'm just saying and I know maybe you could find some crazy know maybe you could find some crazy know maybe you could find some crazy neo-Nazis on Twitter who would say the neo-Nazis on Twitter who would say the neo-Nazis on Twitter who would say the same thing about Jewish people. But I've same thing about Jewish people. But I've same thing about Jewish people. But I've never heard anyone even the people and I never heard anyone even the people and I never heard anyone even the people and I know some of the guys who are in kind of know some of the guys who are in kind of know some of the guys who are in kind of what would be considered that camp. I've what would be considered that camp. I've what would be considered that camp. I've never heard any of them say anything never heard any of them say anything never heard any of them say anything like that. Like Jews just don't have like that. Like Jews just don't have like that. Like Jews just don't have rights or sort of something like that. rights or sort of something like that. rights or sort of something like that. Um so anyway, I just I guess yeah, I Um so anyway, I just I guess yeah, I Um so anyway, I just I guess yeah, I don't like any of it. I don't like any don't like any of it. I don't like any don't like any of it. I don't like any of the the racialism or the the bigotry, of the the racialism or the the bigotry, of the the racialism or the the bigotry, any of that stuff. There might be some any of that stuff. There might be some any of that stuff. There might be some anti-Jewish bigotry, but also like anti-Jewish bigotry, but also like anti-Jewish bigotry, but also like broadly speaking, Jews are doing okay. broadly speaking, Jews are doing okay. broadly speaking, Jews are doing okay. We're kind of fine. Um whereas like the We're kind of fine. Um whereas like the We're kind of fine. Um whereas like the anti-Muslim bigotry is done at a time anti-Muslim bigotry is done at a time anti-Muslim bigotry is done at a time where Muslims are being slaughtered in where Muslims are being slaughtered in where Muslims are being slaughtered in huge numbers. And so I guess maybe I am huge numbers. And so I guess maybe I am huge numbers. And so I guess maybe I am a little bit more sensitive to that. Uh a little bit more sensitive to that. Uh a little bit more sensitive to that. Uh even though I'm Jewish, but yeah, I do I even though I'm Jewish, but yeah, I do I even though I'm Jewish, but yeah, I do I do agree with you that like I think we do agree with you that like I think we do agree with you that like I think we would all be better off if man if people would all be better off if man if people would all be better off if man if people were as interested in talking about were as interested in talking about were as interested in talking about sound economics as they were in sound economics as they were in sound economics as they were in racialism. We'd live in a better world, racialism. We'd live in a better world, racialism. We'd live in a better world, I believe. But that's not the world we I believe. But that's not the world we I believe. But that's not the world we live in. We'll be right back to the live in. We'll be right back to the live in. 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And there's just enough complexity in it And there's just enough complexity in it And there's just enough complexity in it that even when you go to explain it that even when you go to explain it that even when you go to explain it simply, there's going to be words that simply, there's going to be words that simply, there's going to be words that people don't understand or they've got a people don't understand or they've got a people don't understand or they've got a ton of baggage around something like ton of baggage around something like ton of baggage around something like inflation that they think they inflation that they think they inflation that they think they understand, but they probably don't. And understand, but they probably don't. And understand, but they probably don't. And so now you spiral into madness. And this so now you spiral into madness. And this so now you spiral into madness. And this is why people can't ever really get a is why people can't ever really get a is why people can't ever really get a hold of it. They're just too busy. hold of it. They're just too busy. hold of it. They're just too busy. They've got too much going on. They're They've got too much going on. They're They've got too much going on. They're being abused by the economic system so being abused by the economic system so being abused by the economic system so lavishly that they just can't even pick lavishly that they just can't even pick lavishly that they just can't even pick their head up long enough to figure out their head up long enough to figure out their head up long enough to figure out all the nuance. Now, the one thing all the nuance. Now, the one thing all the nuance. Now, the one thing though that I I do worry that you and I though that I I do worry that you and I though that I I do worry that you and I might be two ships passing in the night might be two ships passing in the night might be two ships passing in the night on is um all of the uh bigotry that on is um all of the uh bigotry that on is um all of the uh bigotry that you're talking about, whether it's Jews, you're talking about, whether it's Jews, you're talking about, whether it's Jews, Muslims, white people, all of that. One, Muslims, white people, all of that. One, Muslims, white people, all of that. One, I agree with you. Um, and at the same I agree with you. Um, and at the same I agree with you. Um, and at the same time, at least for the drum that I'm time, at least for the drum that I'm time, at least for the drum that I'm trying to bang, is a nonsequittor. What trying to bang, is a nonsequittor. What trying to bang, is a nonsequittor. What I worry about is that there there is a I worry about is that there there is a I worry about is that there there is a and I I've avoided using this phrase up and I I've avoided using this phrase up and I I've avoided using this phrase up until now because I don't I don't mean until now because I don't I don't mean until now because I don't I don't mean to be derogatory, to be derogatory, to be derogatory, but there's like conspiracy brain rot but there's like conspiracy brain rot but there's like conspiracy brain rot that people fall into and it becomes that people fall into and it becomes that people fall into and it becomes this groove that history has shown us this groove that history has shown us this groove that history has shown us people will slide into that groove and people will slide into that groove and people will slide into that groove and it has really horrific consequences. And it has really horrific consequences. And it has really horrific consequences. And that could be Jews. They are certainly that could be Jews. They are certainly that could be Jews. They are certainly not the only people that have been not the only people that have been not the only people that have been persecuted throughout history. I mean, persecuted throughout history. I mean, persecuted throughout history. I mean, right now you can make an argument that right now you can make an argument that right now you can make an argument that Christians are being persecuted um in Christians are being persecuted um in Christians are being persecuted um in the in other parts of the world. And so the in other parts of the world. And so the in other parts of the world. And so it's like, yep, all of those things are it's like, yep, all of those things are it's like, yep, all of those things are real. What I'm specifically trying to real. What I'm specifically trying to real. What I'm specifically trying to push against is as I So I get routinely push against is as I So I get routinely push against is as I So I get routinely called by my own community, by the way, called by my own community, by the way, called by my own community, by the way, uh as oh, he's just paid for by Apac. uh as oh, he's just paid for by Apac. uh as oh, he's just paid for by Apac. And I'm like, what's happening right And I'm like, what's happening right And I'm like, what's happening right now? So, uh, I'm just like, wait, hold now? So, uh, I'm just like, wait, hold now? So, uh, I'm just like, wait, hold on. Yes, Israel lobby very effective. on. Yes, Israel lobby very effective. on. Yes, Israel lobby very effective. And we can talk about mechanisms. That's And we can talk about mechanisms. That's And we can talk about mechanisms. That's my whole thing. What's the mechanism? I my whole thing. What's the mechanism? I my whole thing. What's the mechanism? I can walk you through the mechanisms of can walk you through the mechanisms of can walk you through the mechanisms of exactly what they're doing, how they're exactly what they're doing, how they're exactly what they're doing, how they're doing it. I did the speedrun earlier, so doing it. I did the speedrun earlier, so doing it. I did the speedrun earlier, so I won't repeat, but it's like that's a I won't repeat, but it's like that's a I won't repeat, but it's like that's a knowable thing and I get why people are knowable thing and I get why people are knowable thing and I get why people are worried about it. What I'm saying is worried about it. What I'm saying is worried about it. What I'm saying is don't let it become this greased shoot don't let it become this greased shoot don't let it become this greased shoot by which you then interpret everything by which you then interpret everything by which you then interpret everything that's happening through the lens of that's happening through the lens of that's happening through the lens of America is a puppet to Israel. America America is a puppet to Israel. America America is a puppet to Israel. America is a puppet to Israel is the thing I'm is a puppet to Israel is the thing I'm is a puppet to Israel is the thing I'm pushing back on. That's the part that pushing back on. That's the part that pushing back on. That's the part that I'm like, hold on. There are times where I'm like, hold on. There are times where I'm like, hold on. There are times where we're aligned. There's times where we're aligned. There's times where we're aligned. There's times where Israel is trying to pull us in a Israel is trying to pull us in a Israel is trying to pull us in a direction. Some leaders may be more um direction. Some leaders may be more um direction. Some leaders may be more um like easier to pull in that direction. like easier to pull in that direction. like easier to pull in that direction. So, even think of somebody like Mike So, even think of somebody like Mike So, even think of somebody like Mike Huckabe who had me clutching my pearls Huckabe who had me clutching my pearls Huckabe who had me clutching my pearls hard when he was like, "Well, God is hard when he was like, "Well, God is hard when he was like, "Well, God is just cool with uh Israel taking all of just cool with uh Israel taking all of just cool with uh Israel taking all of basically the Middle East." And I was basically the Middle East." And I was basically the Middle East." And I was like, "What?" So any as a representative like, "What?" So any as a representative like, "What?" So any as a representative of America, Mike Huckabe, you can't say of America, Mike Huckabe, you can't say of America, Mike Huckabe, you can't say that. Like if you would like to go that. Like if you would like to go that. Like if you would like to go privately believe that and talk about in privately believe that and talk about in privately believe that and talk about in confession, like that's your thing. confession, like that's your thing. confession, like that's your thing. >> Uh so that was wild. So somebody like >> Uh so that was wild. So somebody like >> Uh so that was wild. So somebody like him, it's going to be very easy. Is if him, it's going to be very easy. Is if him, it's going to be very easy. Is if he were to get more and more powerful, he were to get more and more powerful, he were to get more and more powerful, you can understand how that's going to you can understand how that's going to you can understand how that's going to the them lobbying will meet somebody who the them lobbying will meet somebody who the them lobbying will meet somebody who already believes it and now they're already believes it and now they're already believes it and now they're really going to run at pace. And so what really going to run at pace. And so what really going to run at pace. And so what I'm saying is I really want people to I'm saying is I really want people to I'm saying is I really want people to understand Mike Huckabe for his own understand Mike Huckabe for his own understand Mike Huckabe for his own reasons almost certainly pertaining to reasons almost certainly pertaining to reasons almost certainly pertaining to Christianity. He's like primed to Christianity. He's like primed to Christianity. He's like primed to believe it. And so getting people to believe it. And so getting people to believe it. And so getting people to understand that the the low resolution understand that the the low resolution understand that the the low resolution is Israel just throws around a bunch of is Israel just throws around a bunch of is Israel just throws around a bunch of money, blackmail, they got you America money, blackmail, they got you America money, blackmail, they got you America puppets and we just do it. I'm like, puppets and we just do it. I'm like, puppets and we just do it. I'm like, okay, that's that's going to get you to okay, that's that's going to get you to okay, that's that's going to get you to think poorly through the situation. So think poorly through the situation. So think poorly through the situation. So we we've established that stuff. So we we've established that stuff. So we we've established that stuff. So anyway, I I will leave that there. If anyway, I I will leave that there. If anyway, I I will leave that there. If you want the final word on that topic, you want the final word on that topic, you want the final word on that topic, I'm specifically just trying to get I'm specifically just trying to get I'm specifically just trying to get people to understand America's not a people to understand America's not a people to understand America's not a puppet puppet puppet >> of Israel. I I certainly agree with you >> of Israel. I I certainly agree with you >> of Israel. I I certainly agree with you that I think that if you have any of that I think that if you have any of that I think that if you have any of these kind of like black and white um these kind of like black and white um these kind of like black and white um kind of simple narratives, uh they're kind of simple narratives, uh they're kind of simple narratives, uh they're going to lead you into mistakes. Um going to lead you into mistakes. Um going to lead you into mistakes. Um because the world isn't simple like that because the world isn't simple like that because the world isn't simple like that and it's very complex. And even between, and it's very complex. And even between, and it's very complex. And even between, you know, it was very interesting the you know, it was very interesting the you know, it was very interesting the two interviews on Tucker but with Mike two interviews on Tucker but with Mike two interviews on Tucker but with Mike Huckabe and Ted Cruz. You can see now Huckabe and Ted Cruz. You can see now Huckabe and Ted Cruz. You can see now again this is just my uh you know my again this is just my uh you know my again this is just my uh you know my kind of best guess as to how I think kind of best guess as to how I think kind of best guess as to how I think about these guys speculating about their about these guys speculating about their about these guys speculating about their own motives, but to me it seems like own motives, but to me it seems like own motives, but to me it seems like Huckabe is a true believer in this Huckabe is a true believer in this Huckabe is a true believer in this craziness. The idea that God gave Iraq craziness. The idea that God gave Iraq craziness. The idea that God gave Iraq to Netanyahu or something like that. Um to Netanyahu or something like that. Um to Netanyahu or something like that. Um Ted Cruz I don't think believes that at Ted Cruz I don't think believes that at Ted Cruz I don't think believes that at all. I think Ted Cruz has just decided all. I think Ted Cruz has just decided all. I think Ted Cruz has just decided that like this is the track in that like this is the track in that like this is the track in Washington that I'm going to take and Washington that I'm going to take and Washington that I'm going to take and this will help me for the rest of my this will help me for the rest of my this will help me for the rest of my political career to be like I am apex political career to be like I am apex political career to be like I am apex guy. I am for you know and so there's guy. I am for you know and so there's guy. I am for you know and so there's and then again they're both not Jews. and then again they're both not Jews. and then again they're both not Jews. They're both Christians. And so again They're both Christians. And so again They're both Christians. And so again it's it's just more complicated than any it's it's just more complicated than any it's it's just more complicated than any of that. But I I will say that and and of that. But I I will say that and and of that. But I I will say that and and to some degree, right, like like I was to some degree, right, like like I was to some degree, right, like like I was talking about the kind of tribalism talking about the kind of tribalism talking about the kind of tribalism being hardwired into our DNA. Um but being hardwired into our DNA. Um but being hardwired into our DNA. Um but there is something where however exactly there is something where however exactly there is something where however exactly we got here, we are in a place where you we got here, we are in a place where you we got here, we are in a place where you actually do have a US ambassador to actually do have a US ambassador to actually do have a US ambassador to Israel whose deeply held view is that Israel whose deeply held view is that Israel whose deeply held view is that God has this relationship with Israel. God has this relationship with Israel. God has this relationship with Israel. And therefore, man, that's more And therefore, man, that's more And therefore, man, that's more important than your own national views important than your own national views important than your own national views of anything. Cuz if you're saying God of anything. Cuz if you're saying God of anything. Cuz if you're saying God believes it, well, there's no one above believes it, well, there's no one above believes it, well, there's no one above that in Mike Huckabe's hierarchy of that in Mike Huckabe's hierarchy of that in Mike Huckabe's hierarchy of values, right? And so, and you have values, right? And so, and you have values, right? And so, and you have things like Tammy Bruce saying that things like Tammy Bruce saying that things like Tammy Bruce saying that Israel is the greatest country in the Israel is the greatest country in the Israel is the greatest country in the world. We're number two. Ted Cruz saying world. We're number two. Ted Cruz saying world. We're number two. Ted Cruz saying he ran for Senate to be the greatest he ran for Senate to be the greatest he ran for Senate to be the greatest defender of Israel. And anyway, our defender of Israel. And anyway, our defender of Israel. And anyway, our government, these are just examples I'm government, these are just examples I'm government, these are just examples I'm pulling out. We could do a whole show on pulling out. We could do a whole show on pulling out. We could do a whole show on examples like this. our government is examples like this. our government is examples like this. our government is permeated by people who have this type permeated by people who have this type permeated by people who have this type of loyalty to a foreign government and of loyalty to a foreign government and of loyalty to a foreign government and then we've also fought several wars that then we've also fought several wars that then we've also fought several wars that are not in America's interest and are not in America's interest and are not in America's interest and certainly those people who have that certainly those people who have that certainly those people who have that view about Israel have strong feelings view about Israel have strong feelings view about Israel have strong feelings about fighting these wars and it's not about fighting these wars and it's not about fighting these wars and it's not unrelated to how they feel about Israel unrelated to how they feel about Israel unrelated to how they feel about Israel and so I would just say that look just and so I would just say that look just and so I would just say that look just having that situation is like having that situation is like having that situation is like intolerable to most humans and intolerable to most humans and intolerable to most humans and understandably so. I mean, if if there understandably so. I mean, if if there understandably so. I mean, if if there was any type of loyalty to any other was any type of loyalty to any other was any type of loyalty to any other government like this that was pervasive government like this that was pervasive government like this that was pervasive in our own government, we would all in our own government, we would all in our own government, we would all stand up and go like, "Hey, look, like stand up and go like, "Hey, look, like stand up and go like, "Hey, look, like that's great if you are from Sweden or that's great if you are from Sweden or that's great if you are from Sweden or you, I don't know, are not from Sweden, you, I don't know, are not from Sweden, you, I don't know, are not from Sweden, but have some biblical connection to but have some biblical connection to but have some biblical connection to them, but you can start making US policy them, but you can start making US policy them, but you can start making US policy based on what's best for the Swedes, cuz based on what's best for the Swedes, cuz based on what's best for the Swedes, cuz that's just too crazy." Um, and then the that's just too crazy." Um, and then the that's just too crazy." Um, and then the only other thing that I would add in only other thing that I would add in only other thing that I would add in there is to just go like look in the there is to just go like look in the there is to just go like look in the same way the same dynamic is going on same way the same dynamic is going on same way the same dynamic is going on with Israel that goes on in all uh with Israel that goes on in all uh with Israel that goes on in all uh countries under that live under countries under that live under countries under that live under governments which are all of them for governments which are all of them for governments which are all of them for the most part. Um, is that this isn't the most part. Um, is that this isn't the most part. Um, is that this isn't it's not about what's in Israel's it's not about what's in Israel's it's not about what's in Israel's interest. It's about what's in powerful interest. It's about what's in powerful interest. It's about what's in powerful people in Israel's interest. And in the people in Israel's interest. And in the people in Israel's interest. And in the same way, you know, the basic public same way, you know, the basic public same way, you know, the basic public choice theory, but in the same way that choice theory, but in the same way that choice theory, but in the same way that we the same dynamic we have here. It's we the same dynamic we have here. It's we the same dynamic we have here. It's not like the DC class makes decisions not like the DC class makes decisions not like the DC class makes decisions based on what's best for the American based on what's best for the American based on what's best for the American people. And in some cases, powerful people. And in some cases, powerful people. And in some cases, powerful people don't even make decisions based people don't even make decisions based people don't even make decisions based off what's best for powerful people. off what's best for powerful people. off what's best for powerful people. They make decisions based off what's They make decisions based off what's They make decisions based off what's best for them. Think about Joe Biden best for them. Think about Joe Biden best for them. Think about Joe Biden being unwilling to drop out of the race being unwilling to drop out of the race being unwilling to drop out of the race until he was strongarmed into it. That until he was strongarmed into it. That until he was strongarmed into it. That wasn't even what was best for like the wasn't even what was best for like the wasn't even what was best for like the progressive Democratic establishment. progressive Democratic establishment. progressive Democratic establishment. that was just what was best for Joe that was just what was best for Joe that was just what was best for Joe Biden and his wife and his son and his Biden and his wife and his son and his Biden and his wife and his son and his chief of staff. And so, no, I I I would chief of staff. And so, no, I I I would chief of staff. And so, no, I I I would completely agree and I think it's completely agree and I think it's completely agree and I think it's important to emphasize that this whole important to emphasize that this whole important to emphasize that this whole Greater Israel project that Benjamin Greater Israel project that Benjamin Greater Israel project that Benjamin Netanyahu has been pursuing for all of Netanyahu has been pursuing for all of Netanyahu has been pursuing for all of these years, is still actively pursuing, these years, is still actively pursuing, these years, is still actively pursuing, this is the worst thing in the world for this is the worst thing in the world for this is the worst thing in the world for average Israeli Jews. and they they've average Israeli Jews. and they they've average Israeli Jews. and they they've put themselves in a situation where they put themselves in a situation where they put themselves in a situation where they are more hated and more of a pariah and are more hated and more of a pariah and are more hated and more of a pariah and in more danger than they've ever been in in more danger than they've ever been in in more danger than they've ever been in my lifetime. So, you know, this I don't my lifetime. So, you know, this I don't my lifetime. So, you know, this I don't think this is good for the people of any think this is good for the people of any think this is good for the people of any of these countries. Um, least of all the of these countries. Um, least of all the of these countries. Um, least of all the Iranians or the um, you know, people of Iranians or the um, you know, people of Iranians or the um, you know, people of Lebanon or something like that, but it's Lebanon or something like that, but it's Lebanon or something like that, but it's not good for the Israelis and definitely not good for the Israelis and definitely not good for the Israelis and definitely not good for the Americans either. not good for the Americans either. not good for the Americans either. >> All makes sense. So now moving to the >> All makes sense. So now moving to the >> All makes sense. So now moving to the next related topic when I try to think next related topic when I try to think next related topic when I try to think my way through okay how do we get out of my way through okay how do we get out of my way through okay how do we get out of this has been this intractable problem I this has been this intractable problem I this has been this intractable problem I come back to well I think the thing that come back to well I think the thing that come back to well I think the thing that we really are puppets to is the economy we really are puppets to is the economy we really are puppets to is the economy so what is it that we could leverage so what is it that we could leverage so what is it that we could leverage from an economic standpoint to make from an economic standpoint to make from an economic standpoint to make progress and for me the oversimplified progress and for me the oversimplified progress and for me the oversimplified version I've always given people is um version I've always given people is um version I've always given people is um the Israel Palestine problem is never the Israel Palestine problem is never the Israel Palestine problem is never going to resolve itself until um going to resolve itself until um going to resolve itself until um everyone on board is thinking about kids everyone on board is thinking about kids everyone on board is thinking about kids having the ability to progress in their having the ability to progress in their having the ability to progress in their lives and here on earth by the way and lives and here on earth by the way and lives and here on earth by the way and so until we're able to get to that I so until we're able to get to that I so until we're able to get to that I think we're always going to struggle and think we're always going to struggle and think we're always going to struggle and so one I'd be curious do you agree that so one I'd be curious do you agree that so one I'd be curious do you agree that this has that element of people have to this has that element of people have to this has that element of people have to feel like they're making progress feel like they're making progress feel like they're making progress economics basically is the way in which economics basically is the way in which economics basically is the way in which we measure progress so that there it it we measure progress so that there it it we measure progress so that there it it will only ever be an economic solution. will only ever be an economic solution. will only ever be an economic solution. And then when you think about if you And then when you think about if you And then when you think about if you agree with that, then how do we get to agree with that, then how do we get to agree with that, then how do we get to an economic solution? And are the an economic solution? And are the an economic solution? And are the Abraham Accords a first step or a total Abraham Accords a first step or a total Abraham Accords a first step or a total misfire? misfire? misfire? >> Oh, I'm well. Okay. So, I think the >> Oh, I'm well. Okay. So, I think the >> Oh, I'm well. Okay. So, I think the Abraham Accords were a disaster. And I Abraham Accords were a disaster. And I Abraham Accords were a disaster. And I really think they set the stage for for really think they set the stage for for really think they set the stage for for October 7th. And you know, Donald Trump October 7th. And you know, Donald Trump October 7th. And you know, Donald Trump and Jared Kushner and all them would and Jared Kushner and all them would and Jared Kushner and all them would brag about how it was this historic brag about how it was this historic brag about how it was this historic peace deal. But as you may have noticed, peace deal. But as you may have noticed, peace deal. But as you may have noticed, you know, none of the countries were at you know, none of the countries were at you know, none of the countries were at war before they signed the Abraham war before they signed the Abraham war before they signed the Abraham Accords. It's not as if there was like a Accords. It's not as if there was like a Accords. It's not as if there was like a conflict. They treated this like it was conflict. They treated this like it was conflict. They treated this like it was like Camp David between Egypt and and like Camp David between Egypt and and like Camp David between Egypt and and Israel or something like that. Like they Israel or something like that. Like they Israel or something like that. Like they just keep going to war with each other, just keep going to war with each other, just keep going to war with each other, but then we finally made this deal and but then we finally made this deal and but then we finally made this deal and now they're going to stop going to war. now they're going to stop going to war. now they're going to stop going to war. It was basically essentially a bunch of It was basically essentially a bunch of It was basically essentially a bunch of US sock puppets got bribed with US US sock puppets got bribed with US US sock puppets got bribed with US military hardware to officially military hardware to officially military hardware to officially normalize relations with Israel. But normalize relations with Israel. But normalize relations with Israel. But what was the whole beef about there, what was the whole beef about there, what was the whole beef about there, right? Like what was the whole reason right? Like what was the whole reason right? Like what was the whole reason why those Arab countries wouldn't why those Arab countries wouldn't why those Arab countries wouldn't normalize relations with Israel normalize relations with Israel normalize relations with Israel officially, even though they really had officially, even though they really had officially, even though they really had normal relations with them for decades normal relations with them for decades normal relations with them for decades before that? But the reason was because before that? But the reason was because before that? But the reason was because all of their people are opposed to what all of their people are opposed to what all of their people are opposed to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. And Israel is doing to the Palestinians. And Israel is doing to the Palestinians. And so they at least had to publicly say so they at least had to publicly say so they at least had to publicly say like, "No, no, no. not going to like, "No, no, no. not going to like, "No, no, no. not going to normalize relations until they give the normalize relations until they give the normalize relations until they give the Palestinians their own state, until they Palestinians their own state, until they Palestinians their own state, until they end the occupation and the the blockade end the occupation and the the blockade end the occupation and the the blockade of Gaza. And this had been, you know, of Gaza. And this had been, you know, of Gaza. And this had been, you know, from the very beginning of the creation from the very beginning of the creation from the very beginning of the creation of of the state of Israel. And forget of of the state of Israel. And forget of of the state of Israel. And forget even like who you want to blame for all even like who you want to blame for all even like who you want to blame for all of this, like who you hold responsible of this, like who you hold responsible of this, like who you hold responsible for the 47 civil war or the 48 war or for the 47 civil war or the 48 war or for the 47 civil war or the 48 war or anything like that. But the reality of anything like that. But the reality of anything like that. But the reality of the situation is is that the the situation is is that the the situation is is that the Palestinians um got in effect ethnically Palestinians um got in effect ethnically Palestinians um got in effect ethnically cleansed out of historic Palestine. Um cleansed out of historic Palestine. Um cleansed out of historic Palestine. Um in 1948, a bunch of surrounding Arab in 1948, a bunch of surrounding Arab in 1948, a bunch of surrounding Arab countries invaded and were defeated by countries invaded and were defeated by countries invaded and were defeated by the new Zionist entity that then the new Zionist entity that then the new Zionist entity that then declared itself the state of Israel at declared itself the state of Israel at declared itself the state of Israel at the end of that war. And then of course the end of that war. And then of course the end of that war. And then of course there were wars with other Arab states there were wars with other Arab states there were wars with other Arab states in the ' 50s, in the ' 67 war, and the in the ' 50s, in the ' 67 war, and the in the ' 50s, in the ' 67 war, and the Yamapour war. And from the Palestinian Yamapour war. And from the Palestinian Yamapour war. And from the Palestinian perspective, they've always been their perspective, they've always been their perspective, they've always been their desperate hope was always that, oh, some desperate hope was always that, oh, some desperate hope was always that, oh, some of these other states are going to have of these other states are going to have of these other states are going to have our back that at some point that'll put our back that at some point that'll put our back that at some point that'll put enough pressure on them. And then you enough pressure on them. And then you enough pressure on them. And then you got to remember, right, that this this got to remember, right, that this this got to remember, right, that this this is essentially the entire Netanyahu is essentially the entire Netanyahu is essentially the entire Netanyahu doctrine for his entire political doctrine for his entire political doctrine for his entire political career. If people don't believe me, go career. If people don't believe me, go career. If people don't believe me, go read his book, Fighting Terrorism, that read his book, Fighting Terrorism, that read his book, Fighting Terrorism, that he put out in 1995 or 96. Um, and it's a he put out in 1995 or 96. Um, and it's a he put out in 1995 or 96. Um, and it's a very easy read. It's very short book. very easy read. It's very short book. very easy read. It's very short book. You can read it in one sitting. And um You can read it in one sitting. And um You can read it in one sitting. And um it's listen you look at the clean break it's listen you look at the clean break it's listen you look at the clean break strategy coping with crumbling states strategy coping with crumbling states strategy coping with crumbling states every document put out the project for a every document put out the project for a every document put out the project for a new American century I mean in their own new American century I mean in their own new American century I mean in their own words they the Netanyahu doctrine was words they the Netanyahu doctrine was words they the Netanyahu doctrine was always so Yeetszak Rabin was um the always so Yeetszak Rabin was um the always so Yeetszak Rabin was um the prime minister of of Israel in the early prime minister of of Israel in the early prime minister of of Israel in the early '9s and he is a little more complicated '9s and he is a little more complicated '9s and he is a little more complicated than this but at least publicly the the than this but at least publicly the the than this but at least publicly the the Rabine doctrine which is what led to the Rabine doctrine which is what led to the Rabine doctrine which is what led to the Oslo Accords and the the beginning of Oslo Accords and the the beginning of Oslo Accords and the the beginning of the peace process supposedly intended the peace process supposedly intended the peace process supposedly intended did on on finding a two-state solution did on on finding a two-state solution did on on finding a two-state solution was essentially Rabbin was saying, was essentially Rabbin was saying, was essentially Rabbin was saying, "Look, we're never going to be able to "Look, we're never going to be able to "Look, we're never going to be able to normalize relations with the Arab the normalize relations with the Arab the normalize relations with the Arab the broader Arab world unless we solve the broader Arab world unless we solve the broader Arab world unless we solve the Palestinian conflict." Cuz that's what Palestinian conflict." Cuz that's what Palestinian conflict." Cuz that's what the whole thing's over. it's over the the whole thing's over. it's over the the whole thing's over. it's over the fact that after again whoever you want fact that after again whoever you want fact that after again whoever you want to blame for all of this and there's to blame for all of this and there's to blame for all of this and there's blame on all sides so I'm not like blame on all sides so I'm not like blame on all sides so I'm not like saying it's as black and white as Israel saying it's as black and white as Israel saying it's as black and white as Israel was always wrong and they did a lot of was always wrong and they did a lot of was always wrong and they did a lot of wrong stuff but regardless at the end of wrong stuff but regardless at the end of wrong stuff but regardless at the end of the 67 war um the at the end of the six- the 67 war um the at the end of the six- the 67 war um the at the end of the six- day war Israel took control of uh Gaza day war Israel took control of uh Gaza day war Israel took control of uh Gaza um East Jerusalem the West Bank and um East Jerusalem the West Bank and um East Jerusalem the West Bank and they've had it ever since and this they've had it ever since and this they've had it ever since and this became starting to be a real big problem became starting to be a real big problem became starting to be a real big problem like hey what are you going to do here like hey what are you going to do here like hey what are you going to do here look it is one thing just again removing look it is one thing just again removing look it is one thing just again removing morality and just talking about like the morality and just talking about like the morality and just talking about like the logistics of history. It is one thing to logistics of history. It is one thing to logistics of history. It is one thing to ethnically cleanse a group. It's another ethnically cleanse a group. It's another ethnically cleanse a group. It's another thing to claim them and occupy them thing to claim them and occupy them thing to claim them and occupy them indefinitely. And that's especially very indefinitely. And that's especially very indefinitely. And that's especially very hard to do in the modern world when like hard to do in the modern world when like hard to do in the modern world when like everyone on this side of the everyone on this side of the everyone on this side of the enlightenment the standard is like well enlightenment the standard is like well enlightenment the standard is like well I mean can't just keep a bunch of people I mean can't just keep a bunch of people I mean can't just keep a bunch of people that don't have citizenship and voting that don't have citizenship and voting that don't have citizenship and voting rights and you know natural rights at rights and you know natural rights at rights and you know natural rights at all. like that doesn't and so eventually all. like that doesn't and so eventually all. like that doesn't and so eventually by the '9s now we're like almost 30 by the '9s now we're like almost 30 by the '9s now we're like almost 30 years 25 years into the occupation is years 25 years into the occupation is years 25 years into the occupation is like yo we got to do something about like yo we got to do something about like yo we got to do something about this man like we got to come to some this man like we got to come to some this man like we got to come to some solution or the rest of the world is solution or the rest of the world is solution or the rest of the world is looking at us as occupiers and we're not looking at us as occupiers and we're not looking at us as occupiers and we're not going to be able to normalize relations going to be able to normalize relations going to be able to normalize relations with the Arab world now Benjamin with the Arab world now Benjamin with the Arab world now Benjamin Netanyahu Netanyahu Netanyahu Rabin's wife I believe still to this day Rabin's wife I believe still to this day Rabin's wife I believe still to this day if she's still alive blames him for her if she's still alive blames him for her if she's still alive blames him for her death for for his death um Benjamin death for for his death um Benjamin death for for his death um Benjamin Netanyahu was railing against this and Netanyahu was railing against this and Netanyahu was railing against this and how this is a betrayal to the the Jewish how this is a betrayal to the the Jewish how this is a betrayal to the the Jewish people and they had like he had like all people and they had like he had like all people and they had like he had like all these like rallies where they would hold these like rallies where they would hold these like rallies where they would hold coffins with Yeetsakrabin's name on it. coffins with Yeetsakrabin's name on it. coffins with Yeetsakrabin's name on it. This before he was killed and then a This before he was killed and then a This before he was killed and then a Netanyahu fan murdered Yeetsakrain. So Netanyahu fan murdered Yeetsakrain. So Netanyahu fan murdered Yeetsakrain. So then Netanyahu comes in a few years then Netanyahu comes in a few years then Netanyahu comes in a few years later in 1996 and the whole Netanyahu later in 1996 and the whole Netanyahu later in 1996 and the whole Netanyahu doctrine the clean break to the Oslo doctrine the clean break to the Oslo doctrine the clean break to the Oslo Accords to all of this was always that Accords to all of this was always that Accords to all of this was always that he goes no no no Yeetakin had it all he goes no no no Yeetakin had it all he goes no no no Yeetakin had it all wrong. He said, "You got to normalize wrong. He said, "You got to normalize wrong. He said, "You got to normalize relations with or he said you got to relations with or he said you got to relations with or he said you got to give the Palestinians a two-state give the Palestinians a two-state give the Palestinians a two-state solution so you can normalize relations solution so you can normalize relations solution so you can normalize relations with the broader Arab world." But what with the broader Arab world." But what with the broader Arab world." But what we're just going to do, right, is use we're just going to do, right, is use we're just going to do, right, is use the US to topple the regimes we don't the US to topple the regimes we don't the US to topple the regimes we don't like in the broader world. Like, oh, we like in the broader world. Like, oh, we like in the broader world. Like, oh, we can't normalize relations with Saddam can't normalize relations with Saddam can't normalize relations with Saddam Hussein and Mar Gaddafi and Bashar Hussein and Mar Gaddafi and Bashar Hussein and Mar Gaddafi and Bashar al-Assad. Well, guess what? None of them al-Assad. Well, guess what? None of them al-Assad. Well, guess what? None of them exist anymore. I mean, Bashar al-Assad exist anymore. I mean, Bashar al-Assad exist anymore. I mean, Bashar al-Assad does, but not in power. Um, and the does, but not in power. Um, and the does, but not in power. Um, and the other two are not on this earth anymore. other two are not on this earth anymore. other two are not on this earth anymore. So, hey, problem solved, right? And so, So, hey, problem solved, right? And so, So, hey, problem solved, right? And so, like the the um the uh excuse me, the like the the um the uh excuse me, the like the the um the uh excuse me, the Abraham Accords were in many ways like Abraham Accords were in many ways like Abraham Accords were in many ways like the culmination of that strategy. It was the culmination of that strategy. It was the culmination of that strategy. It was letting the Palestinians know, listen, letting the Palestinians know, listen, letting the Palestinians know, listen, there is no Oslo. There is no We're not there is no Oslo. There is no We're not there is no Oslo. There is no We're not even saying like, hey, maybe in 5 to 10 even saying like, hey, maybe in 5 to 10 even saying like, hey, maybe in 5 to 10 years you can have your own state. Maybe years you can have your own state. Maybe years you can have your own state. Maybe in 20 years you can have your own state. in 20 years you can have your own state. in 20 years you can have your own state. Maybe your grandkids can. They're going, Maybe your grandkids can. They're going, Maybe your grandkids can. They're going, no, it's over. You lose, we win. the the no, it's over. You lose, we win. the the no, it's over. You lose, we win. the the solution here is that you will be solution here is that you will be solution here is that you will be subjugated in perpetuity forever subjugated in perpetuity forever subjugated in perpetuity forever and then we got October 7th and you know and then we got October 7th and you know and then we got October 7th and you know in the same way that if you if you chart in the same way that if you if you chart in the same way that if you if you chart this thing out and there's always been a this thing out and there's always been a this thing out and there's always been a big terrorism problem in the Middle East big terrorism problem in the Middle East big terrorism problem in the Middle East since since you know wherever you want since since you know wherever you want since since you know wherever you want to start it but from the Zionist to start it but from the Zionist to start it but from the Zionist settlers or from the resistance to the settlers or from the resistance to the settlers or from the resistance to the Zionist settlers there's been a Zionist settlers there's been a Zionist settlers there's been a terrorism problem there but listen the terrorism problem there but listen the terrorism problem there but listen the second Antifa kicked off after the peace second Antifa kicked off after the peace second Antifa kicked off after the peace process fell apart. That's when things process fell apart. That's when things process fell apart. That's when things get their most violent. That's when, you get their most violent. That's when, you get their most violent. That's when, you know, if you could look at Hamas's uh uh know, if you could look at Hamas's uh uh know, if you could look at Hamas's uh uh popularity in Gaza and during the peace popularity in Gaza and during the peace popularity in Gaza and during the peace process, it was way down. After the process, it was way down. After the process, it was way down. After the peace process fell apart, it shoots way peace process fell apart, it shoots way peace process fell apart, it shoots way up. You know, this is the way these up. You know, this is the way these up. You know, this is the way these things work. You can listen, you can be things work. You can listen, you can be things work. You can listen, you can be for a one-state solution where everybody for a one-state solution where everybody for a one-state solution where everybody gets, you know, citizenship and voting gets, you know, citizenship and voting gets, you know, citizenship and voting rights. You can be for a two-state rights. You can be for a two-state rights. You can be for a two-state solution where the Palestinians get to solution where the Palestinians get to solution where the Palestinians get to have their own country and they can do have their own country and they can do have their own country and they can do with it what they want. But the Israelis with it what they want. But the Israelis with it what they want. But the Israelis get to keep Israel as a Jewish state, get to keep Israel as a Jewish state, get to keep Israel as a Jewish state, like 67 borders or whatever you want to like 67 borders or whatever you want to like 67 borders or whatever you want to talk. But if you if you're saying, "No, talk. But if you if you're saying, "No, talk. But if you if you're saying, "No, I'm not for either of those," which is I'm not for either of those," which is I'm not for either of those," which is kind of the status quo. essentially kind of the status quo. essentially kind of the status quo. essentially saying, "No, it's all Israel. Israel saying, "No, it's all Israel. Israel saying, "No, it's all Israel. Israel controls all of it, and those controls all of it, and those controls all of it, and those Palestinians just don't get citizenship Palestinians just don't get citizenship Palestinians just don't get citizenship or representation in their government or or representation in their government or or representation in their government or due process rights or property rights or due process rights or property rights or due process rights or property rights or travel rights or any of the basic human travel rights or any of the basic human travel rights or any of the basic human rights that we would all consider to be rights that we would all consider to be rights that we would all consider to be natural god-given rights. If you're natural god-given rights. If you're natural god-given rights. If you're saying no, they get none of that, I saying no, they get none of that, I saying no, they get none of that, I don't see how you can really even argue don't see how you can really even argue don't see how you can really even argue against October 7th type events as against October 7th type events as against October 7th type events as horrific as they are. You you you can't horrific as they are. You you you can't horrific as they are. You you you can't just say to a group of people, you have just say to a group of people, you have just say to a group of people, you have to live in subjugation forever. And so to live in subjugation forever. And so to live in subjugation forever. And so to me, listen, as bad as the history is, to me, listen, as bad as the history is, to me, listen, as bad as the history is, and maybe this is just me wanting to be and maybe this is just me wanting to be and maybe this is just me wanting to be like a naive optimist, but I do think like a naive optimist, but I do think like a naive optimist, but I do think there's historical precedent for this. there's historical precedent for this. there's historical precedent for this. As bad as you may think it is, like yo, As bad as you may think it is, like yo, As bad as you may think it is, like yo, what are you telling me that there could what are you telling me that there could what are you telling me that there could ever be a time where the Palestinians in ever be a time where the Palestinians in ever be a time where the Palestinians in Gaza live side by side with the Jews in Gaza live side by side with the Jews in Gaza live side by side with the Jews in Israel and everything's just fine? I Israel and everything's just fine? I Israel and everything's just fine? I mean, Ireland and England are right next mean, Ireland and England are right next mean, Ireland and England are right next to each other. France and Germany are to each other. France and Germany are to each other. France and Germany are right next to each other. You know, right next to each other. You know, right next to each other. You know, Poland and Russia are pretty darn close Poland and Russia are pretty darn close Poland and Russia are pretty darn close to each other. These are countries that to each other. These are countries that to each other. These are countries that had the bloodiest feuds for for had the bloodiest feuds for for had the bloodiest feuds for for centuries and and had some fought some centuries and and had some fought some centuries and and had some fought some of the bloodiest wars in the history of of the bloodiest wars in the history of of the bloodiest wars in the history of the world. And once again, even take the the world. And once again, even take the the world. And once again, even take the example of Egypt. And okay, you know, example of Egypt. And okay, you know, example of Egypt. And okay, you know, it's also true that Americans bribed it's also true that Americans bribed it's also true that Americans bribed them off and that was part of the deal. them off and that was part of the deal. them off and that was part of the deal. But Egypt and Israel went to war four But Egypt and Israel went to war four But Egypt and Israel went to war four times in like 25 years. Uh they were times in like 25 years. Uh they were times in like 25 years. Uh they were mortal enemies and then they made a land mortal enemies and then they made a land mortal enemies and then they made a land for peace deal and they've been at peace for peace deal and they've been at peace for peace deal and they've been at peace ever since. And you know, like it's not ever since. And you know, like it's not ever since. And you know, like it's not it's not that they don't have a radical it's not that they don't have a radical it's not that they don't have a radical Islam problem in Egypt, you know, like Islam problem in Egypt, you know, like Islam problem in Egypt, you know, like that's not the the factor here isn't that's not the the factor here isn't that's not the the factor here isn't Islam. It the factor here is that human Islam. It the factor here is that human Islam. It the factor here is that human beings beings beings can actually really swallow a really can actually really swallow a really can actually really swallow a really bloody, really tragic past. You know, bloody, really tragic past. You know, bloody, really tragic past. You know, I'm I'm Jewish and I, you know, I've met I'm I'm Jewish and I, you know, I've met I'm I'm Jewish and I, you know, I've met Germans and stuff and we're just cool Germans and stuff and we're just cool Germans and stuff and we're just cool now. It's really not that long ago that now. It's really not that long ago that now. It's really not that long ago that we really really weren't, you know, but we really really weren't, you know, but we really really weren't, you know, but things like that can happen. And this is things like that can happen. And this is things like that can happen. And this is just like one or two generations later. just like one or two generations later. just like one or two generations later. I could grab a beer with a German guy I could grab a beer with a German guy I could grab a beer with a German guy and it's not even kind of a weird thing, and it's not even kind of a weird thing, and it's not even kind of a weird thing, you know. Now, I know it's complicated you know. Now, I know it's complicated you know. Now, I know it's complicated and there's a lot more to that, but I and there's a lot more to that, but I and there's a lot more to that, but I guess what I am saying is that at the guess what I am saying is that at the guess what I am saying is that at the heart of this is the occupation. That's heart of this is the occupation. That's heart of this is the occupation. That's really the major problem. And the only really the major problem. And the only really the major problem. And the only reason why the occupation could exist at reason why the occupation could exist at reason why the occupation could exist at all, let alone persist for nearly 60 all, let alone persist for nearly 60 all, let alone persist for nearly 60 years is longer than the Soviet Union years is longer than the Soviet Union years is longer than the Soviet Union occupied Eastern Europe. Israel has occupied Eastern Europe. Israel has occupied Eastern Europe. Israel has occupied Gaza and the West Bank and the occupied Gaza and the West Bank and the occupied Gaza and the West Bank and the Golan Heights and East Jerusalem. And Golan Heights and East Jerusalem. And Golan Heights and East Jerusalem. And that only happens because the most that only happens because the most that only happens because the most powerful country in the history of the powerful country in the history of the powerful country in the history of the world gives it its blessing. There's no world gives it its blessing. There's no world gives it its blessing. There's no question. There's no way they could question. There's no way they could question. There's no way they could sustain this without us. And without us, sustain this without us. And without us, sustain this without us. And without us, I mean, things have gotten very messy I mean, things have gotten very messy I mean, things have gotten very messy over the last few years, but Israel has over the last few years, but Israel has over the last few years, but Israel has the most powerful military in the the most powerful military in the the most powerful military in the region. Israel, although they won't region. Israel, although they won't region. Israel, although they won't admit it, has a whole lot of nuclear admit it, has a whole lot of nuclear admit it, has a whole lot of nuclear weapons. Israel is more than capable of weapons. Israel is more than capable of weapons. Israel is more than capable of defending itself, of continuing to defending itself, of continuing to defending itself, of continuing to exist, as they always insist they have exist, as they always insist they have exist, as they always insist they have the right to. Um, they're not capable of the right to. Um, they're not capable of the right to. Um, they're not capable of toppling regimes in the region without toppling regimes in the region without toppling regimes in the region without us. They're not capable of uh making the us. They're not capable of uh making the us. They're not capable of uh making the Greater Israel project happen without Greater Israel project happen without Greater Israel project happen without us. But I do think that in the same way, us. But I do think that in the same way, us. But I do think that in the same way, right, if you wanted to look at it in right, if you wanted to look at it in right, if you wanted to look at it in like economic terms or something like like economic terms or something like like economic terms or something like that, if you think about like moral that, if you think about like moral that, if you think about like moral hazard, right, like what's really the hazard, right, like what's really the hazard, right, like what's really the problem with say g the government problem with say g the government problem with say g the government guaranteeing big banks uh you know risky guaranteeing big banks uh you know risky guaranteeing big banks uh you know risky uh investments, it's like well they get uh investments, it's like well they get uh investments, it's like well they get a lot riskier then if you're going to a lot riskier then if you're going to a lot riskier then if you're going to give them this artificial insurance and give them this artificial insurance and give them this artificial insurance and in the same way I think both with in the same way I think both with in the same way I think both with Ukraine and with Israel, there's this Ukraine and with Israel, there's this Ukraine and with Israel, there's this tremendous like moral hazard that comes tremendous like moral hazard that comes tremendous like moral hazard that comes along with unconditional US support. All along with unconditional US support. All along with unconditional US support. All of a sudden, you're going to fight a lot of a sudden, you're going to fight a lot of a sudden, you're going to fight a lot of fights that you wouldn't have of fights that you wouldn't have of fights that you wouldn't have otherwise fought. It's like Mike Tyson otherwise fought. It's like Mike Tyson otherwise fought. It's like Mike Tyson goes out to the bar with you and says, goes out to the bar with you and says, goes out to the bar with you and says, "Anyone messes with you, I'm beating the "Anyone messes with you, I'm beating the "Anyone messes with you, I'm beating the crap out of them." Well, you're you're crap out of them." Well, you're you're crap out of them." Well, you're you're now taking a lot less lip than you now taking a lot less lip than you now taking a lot less lip than you otherwise would have at that night out. otherwise would have at that night out. otherwise would have at that night out. And so, to me, that's at the center of And so, to me, that's at the center of And so, to me, that's at the center of it. And people try to make it about a it. And people try to make it about a it. And people try to make it about a lot of different things about a lot of different things about a lot of different things about a religious war, about a clash of religious war, about a clash of religious war, about a clash of civilization. civilization. civilization. You know, I've argued this with people You know, I've argued this with people You know, I've argued this with people before, but you know, it's a very human before, but you know, it's a very human before, but you know, it's a very human thing to not very much like being thing to not very much like being thing to not very much like being subjugated. And there's, you know, the subjugated. And there's, you know, the subjugated. And there's, you know, the Irish violently resisted the British and Irish violently resisted the British and Irish violently resisted the British and the Algerians violently resisted the the Algerians violently resisted the the Algerians violently resisted the French and the Native Americans French and the Native Americans French and the Native Americans violently resisted the early American violently resisted the early American violently resisted the early American settlers. And this is fairly normal settlers. And this is fairly normal settlers. And this is fairly normal thing about human history. And I'm not thing about human history. And I'm not thing about human history. And I'm not saying like maybe it is true that if you saying like maybe it is true that if you saying like maybe it is true that if you occupied a group of Buddhists for 60 occupied a group of Buddhists for 60 occupied a group of Buddhists for 60 years like they wouldn't jihad fight years like they wouldn't jihad fight years like they wouldn't jihad fight back in exactly the same way that a back in exactly the same way that a back in exactly the same way that a group of Muslims will. I just I think group of Muslims will. I just I think group of Muslims will. I just I think that's you know you think about it like that's you know you think about it like that's you know you think about it like this like we've never given that a this like we've never given that a this like we've never given that a chance in all of this time since 1967. chance in all of this time since 1967. chance in all of this time since 1967. You've never said like well maybe the You've never said like well maybe the You've never said like well maybe the thing here is like if you don't want thing here is like if you don't want thing here is like if you don't want slave rebellions you should abolish slave rebellions you should abolish slave rebellions you should abolish slavery. Maybe the thing here is that if slavery. Maybe the thing here is that if slavery. Maybe the thing here is that if you don't want this violent terrorism, you don't want this violent terrorism, you don't want this violent terrorism, you should abolish the occupation and you should abolish the occupation and you should abolish the occupation and give that a shot. And now, of course, give that a shot. And now, of course, give that a shot. And now, of course, the the Israelis will fall back to like, the the Israelis will fall back to like, the the Israelis will fall back to like, you know, the old uh what was it? The you know, the old uh what was it? The you know, the old uh what was it? The old Thomas Jefferson quote about slavery old Thomas Jefferson quote about slavery old Thomas Jefferson quote about slavery where you say, "We've got the wolf by where you say, "We've got the wolf by where you say, "We've got the wolf by the ear and we can neither afford to let the ear and we can neither afford to let the ear and we can neither afford to let it go nor safely hang on to it." Uh it go nor safely hang on to it." Uh it go nor safely hang on to it." Uh they're concerned like, "Yo, if we gave they're concerned like, "Yo, if we gave they're concerned like, "Yo, if we gave them their own state, then they would them their own state, then they would them their own state, then they would attack us." attack us." attack us." And you know, I always say to that, I'm And you know, I always say to that, I'm And you know, I always say to that, I'm like, well, if things were different, like, well, if things were different, like, well, if things were different, we'd be having a different conversation, we'd be having a different conversation, we'd be having a different conversation, but they're not different. They're like but they're not different. They're like but they're not different. They're like this. And so I, you know, it's like you this. And so I, you know, it's like you this. And so I, you know, it's like you just much like with Thomas Jefferson as just much like with Thomas Jefferson as just much like with Thomas Jefferson as we now look back back on that now, like, we now look back back on that now, like, we now look back back on that now, like, hey, that was a very eloquent quote. hey, that was a very eloquent quote. hey, that was a very eloquent quote. Great point. Abolish slavery. Sorry. Great point. Abolish slavery. Sorry. Great point. Abolish slavery. Sorry. Like the like that very nice quote, but Like the like that very nice quote, but Like the like that very nice quote, but that's not an argument for slavery. You that's not an argument for slavery. You that's not an argument for slavery. You can't enslave other human beings. You can't enslave other human beings. You can't enslave other human beings. You don't get to do that. You don't have the don't get to do that. You don't have the don't get to do that. You don't have the moral right to do that. No matter what moral right to do that. No matter what moral right to do that. No matter what you think the outcome of this will be, I you think the outcome of this will be, I you think the outcome of this will be, I feel the same way about the occupation, feel the same way about the occupation, feel the same way about the occupation, they have to end it. And I I do I'm they have to end it. And I I do I'm they have to end it. And I I do I'm somewhat cautiously optimistic that that somewhat cautiously optimistic that that somewhat cautiously optimistic that that could make the situation a lot better. could make the situation a lot better. could make the situation a lot better. >> Okay. So, let me start building uh my >> Okay. So, let me start building uh my >> Okay. So, let me start building uh my understanding of exactly what you're understanding of exactly what you're understanding of exactly what you're saying. So, um you talked about Egypt saying. So, um you talked about Egypt saying. So, um you talked about Egypt doing a land swap for peace and that doing a land swap for peace and that doing a land swap for peace and that that worked. So, you say that like um that worked. So, you say that like um that worked. So, you say that like um you've made the whole point, but I'm you've made the whole point, but I'm you've made the whole point, but I'm actually not sure what the implication actually not sure what the implication actually not sure what the implication is. Are you saying that um if Israel is. Are you saying that um if Israel is. Are you saying that um if Israel were to give back Golden Heights, were to give back Golden Heights, were to give back Golden Heights, Palestine, East Jerusalem, uh and just Palestine, East Jerusalem, uh and just Palestine, East Jerusalem, uh and just say, "Hey, listen. This is a trade for say, "Hey, listen. This is a trade for say, "Hey, listen. This is a trade for peace, you've got it now. No more peace, you've got it now. No more peace, you've got it now. No more blockade. Do what you're going to do." blockade. Do what you're going to do." blockade. Do what you're going to do." Um is that what you mean by, "Hey, it Um is that what you mean by, "Hey, it Um is that what you mean by, "Hey, it worked with Egypt. It could work here." worked with Egypt. It could work here." worked with Egypt. It could work here." >> Yeah. essentially that it's, you know, >> Yeah. essentially that it's, you know, >> Yeah. essentially that it's, you know, they they for for 25 years the Israeli they they for for 25 years the Israeli they they for for 25 years the Israeli propaganda was that the reason that propaganda was that the reason that propaganda was that the reason that Egypt kept attacking them was because Egypt kept attacking them was because Egypt kept attacking them was because they were crazy radical Muslims and they they were crazy radical Muslims and they they were crazy radical Muslims and they just hated Jews and wanted to drive all just hated Jews and wanted to drive all just hated Jews and wanted to drive all the Jews into the river and so they the Jews into the river and so they the Jews into the river and so they would never stop. But then America would never stop. But then America would never stop. But then America forced them to make a deal and the, you forced them to make a deal and the, you forced them to make a deal and the, you know, the lobby was not as powerful in know, the lobby was not as powerful in know, the lobby was not as powerful in those days. Um, and they made one and it those days. Um, and they made one and it those days. Um, and they made one and it led to peace. I'm not saying it's a led to peace. I'm not saying it's a led to peace. I'm not saying it's a guarantee that any of that could happen, guarantee that any of that could happen, guarantee that any of that could happen, but it is like it's not beyond belief but it is like it's not beyond belief but it is like it's not beyond belief that like yeah, if you just ended the that like yeah, if you just ended the that like yeah, if you just ended the occupation, you know, occupation, you know, occupation, you know, human beings are interesting creatures, human beings are interesting creatures, human beings are interesting creatures, you know, like we have our economic you know, like we have our economic you know, like we have our economic incentives. We have uh kind of a incentives. We have uh kind of a incentives. We have uh kind of a universal desire universal desire universal desire um for for um comfort and shelter and um for for um comfort and shelter and um for for um comfort and shelter and prosperity. Um but we also have our prosperity. Um but we also have our prosperity. Um but we also have our pride and some irrational you know pride and some irrational you know pride and some irrational you know tendencies and then some rational tendencies and then some rational tendencies and then some rational irrational tendencies. And what I mean irrational tendencies. And what I mean irrational tendencies. And what I mean by that is like so at the um and this is by that is like so at the um and this is by that is like so at the um and this is still true to this day but less so than still true to this day but less so than still true to this day but less so than it used to be. But you know when um it used to be. But you know when um it used to be. But you know when um there were Palestinians who were getting there were Palestinians who were getting there were Palestinians who were getting who were who got ethnically cleansed out who were who got ethnically cleansed out who were who got ethnically cleansed out of Israel before Israel was even a state of Israel before Israel was even a state of Israel before Israel was even a state um uh for decades uh slowly and then um uh for decades uh slowly and then um uh for decades uh slowly and then much more at once in 1947 1948. So in much more at once in 1947 1948. So in much more at once in 1947 1948. So in many cases there, right, it would be the many cases there, right, it would be the many cases there, right, it would be the house that the Israeli was living in was house that the Israeli was living in was house that the Israeli was living in was the Palestinians house. Like it's not the Palestinians house. Like it's not the Palestinians house. Like it's not like they just tore down their villages like they just tore down their villages like they just tore down their villages and then built up highrises. That did and then built up highrises. That did and then built up highrises. That did happen years later in many parts of happen years later in many parts of happen years later in many parts of Israel. Not everywhere. Um but in many Israel. Not everywhere. Um but in many Israel. Not everywhere. Um but in many cases it would be like your house that cases it would be like your house that cases it would be like your house that your grandfather built and you had the your grandfather built and you had the your grandfather built and you had the locks changed on you and were kicked out locks changed on you and were kicked out locks changed on you and were kicked out and a soldier pointed a gun at you and and a soldier pointed a gun at you and and a soldier pointed a gun at you and said march that way. But now you're said march that way. But now you're said march that way. But now you're living that way, like 10 miles that way, living that way, like 10 miles that way, living that way, like 10 miles that way, not flown halfway across the world. not flown halfway across the world. not flown halfway across the world. You're in Gaza, you know what I mean? You're in Gaza, you know what I mean? You're in Gaza, you know what I mean? You're looking at the house that your You're looking at the house that your You're looking at the house that your grandfather built. And then you're in grandfather built. And then you're in grandfather built. And then you're in some makeshift refugee, you know, uh um some makeshift refugee, you know, uh um some makeshift refugee, you know, uh um camp and you're watch. And so you, this camp and you're watch. And so you, this camp and you're watch. And so you, this is how Daryl Cooper put it, which I is how Daryl Cooper put it, which I is how Daryl Cooper put it, which I always thought was very uh very always thought was very uh very always thought was very uh very articulate. Um, he goes, "Now you, if articulate. Um, he goes, "Now you, if articulate. Um, he goes, "Now you, if you were some Palestinian 17-year-old at you were some Palestinian 17-year-old at you were some Palestinian 17-year-old at that time, you had no no way of giving that time, you had no no way of giving that time, you had no no way of giving your grandmother back her house, right? your grandmother back her house, right? your grandmother back her house, right? But you could burn that house to the But you could burn that house to the But you could burn that house to the ground while the new family was inside ground while the new family was inside ground while the new family was inside it." Now, that may seem irrational, it." Now, that may seem irrational, it." Now, that may seem irrational, but actually, I think it's kind of but actually, I think it's kind of but actually, I think it's kind of rational on a human level. Most human rational on a human level. Most human rational on a human level. Most human beings, most human beings are like that. beings, most human beings are like that. beings, most human beings are like that. We will not tolerate that level of We will not tolerate that level of We will not tolerate that level of humiliation without doing something humiliation without doing something humiliation without doing something violent. Like there is a point where violent. Like there is a point where violent. Like there is a point where like I will cut off my nose to spite my like I will cut off my nose to spite my like I will cut off my nose to spite my face. Like I would, you know what I'm face. Like I would, you know what I'm face. Like I would, you know what I'm saying? Like people are like that. And I saying? Like people are like that. And I saying? Like people are like that. And I think that think that think that once you at least give a little bit of once you at least give a little bit of once you at least give a little bit of like, hey, listen, we're not humiliating like, hey, listen, we're not humiliating like, hey, listen, we're not humiliating you here. We're not saying that. You you here. We're not saying that. You you here. We're not saying that. You know, if you just look at the the know, if you just look at the the know, if you just look at the the indignities that Palestinians face on a indignities that Palestinians face on a indignities that Palestinians face on a daily basis, a daily, and I'm not even daily basis, a daily, and I'm not even daily basis, a daily, and I'm not even saying like the worst things that even saying like the worst things that even saying like the worst things that even make the news, like, oh, you know, these make the news, like, oh, you know, these make the news, like, oh, you know, these IDF soldiers went into the West Bank and IDF soldiers went into the West Bank and IDF soldiers went into the West Bank and shot guys as they were surrendering and shot guys as they were surrendering and shot guys as they were surrendering and it's on video and we can all just watch it's on video and we can all just watch it's on video and we can all just watch it. Just one story from this last year, it. Just one story from this last year, it. Just one story from this last year, but how many different stories there are but how many different stories there are but how many different stories there are of them just pointing a gun at an old of them just pointing a gun at an old of them just pointing a gun at an old lady's face and pushing her over while lady's face and pushing her over while lady's face and pushing her over while her family watches. And like again, her family watches. And like again, her family watches. And like again, maybe it's because I'm immature enough maybe it's because I'm immature enough maybe it's because I'm immature enough and angry enough and I'm in my own, you and angry enough and I'm in my own, you and angry enough and I'm in my own, you know, I'm I never got a job. I just do know, I'm I never got a job. I just do know, I'm I never got a job. I just do standup comedy and podcast, so I'm in my standup comedy and podcast, so I'm in my standup comedy and podcast, so I'm in my own state of arrested development or own state of arrested development or own state of arrested development or whatever. But man, it's very easy for me whatever. But man, it's very easy for me whatever. But man, it's very easy for me to get in the mindset of like, yo, you to get in the mindset of like, yo, you to get in the mindset of like, yo, you point a gun at my grandmother and push point a gun at my grandmother and push point a gun at my grandmother and push her over. Like, okay, I'm taking out as her over. Like, okay, I'm taking out as her over. Like, okay, I'm taking out as many of you as I can before you kill me, many of you as I can before you kill me, many of you as I can before you kill me, and I don't really care that you're and I don't really care that you're and I don't really care that you're going to. And yeah, I think if you were going to. And yeah, I think if you were going to. And yeah, I think if you were to publicly admit that this was wrong, to publicly admit that this was wrong, to publicly admit that this was wrong, it shouldn't have happened this way. it shouldn't have happened this way. it shouldn't have happened this way. we're returning your land. There's no we're returning your land. There's no we're returning your land. There's no more military occupation on your land. more military occupation on your land. more military occupation on your land. Then yes, you give a much better chance Then yes, you give a much better chance Then yes, you give a much better chance for those positive human incentives to for those positive human incentives to for those positive human incentives to to flourish and go, okay, we actually to flourish and go, okay, we actually to flourish and go, okay, we actually would like our kids to not be would like our kids to not be would like our kids to not be slaughtered. So, I'm hopeful that you slaughtered. So, I'm hopeful that you slaughtered. So, I'm hopeful that you could do that and things could get a lot could do that and things could get a lot could do that and things could get a lot better. And I think really it's the only better. And I think really it's the only better. And I think really it's the only thing we can choose. It's like that or thing we can choose. It's like that or thing we can choose. It's like that or genocide are our options at this point. genocide are our options at this point. genocide are our options at this point. >> Well, I'll put one more option on the >> Well, I'll put one more option on the >> Well, I'll put one more option on the table. And I'm going to be talking right table. And I'm going to be talking right table. And I'm going to be talking right now about what is, not what ought to be. now about what is, not what ought to be. now about what is, not what ought to be. I um we can certainly touch on what I um we can certainly touch on what I um we can certainly touch on what ought to be in a second, but in terms of ought to be in a second, but in terms of ought to be in a second, but in terms of what is, you can ethnically cleanse, what is, you can ethnically cleanse, what is, you can ethnically cleanse, which seems to be the actual path that which seems to be the actual path that which seems to be the actual path that they're taking. Um going in, and I'll they're taking. Um going in, and I'll they're taking. Um going in, and I'll define eth ethnically cleansing really define eth ethnically cleansing really define eth ethnically cleansing really fast, driving out people of a given fast, driving out people of a given fast, driving out people of a given ethnicity from the place. You don't ethnicity from the place. You don't ethnicity from the place. You don't necessarily have to kill them, though necessarily have to kill them, though necessarily have to kill them, though that is often kill a few of them and that is often kill a few of them and that is often kill a few of them and then the rest scatter. Uh and I would then the rest scatter. Uh and I would then the rest scatter. Uh and I would put that in the same camp. So obviously put that in the same camp. So obviously put that in the same camp. So obviously Israel's killed tons uh post October 7th Israel's killed tons uh post October 7th Israel's killed tons uh post October 7th and so that gives you plenty of impetus and so that gives you plenty of impetus and so that gives you plenty of impetus to flee the area if they had someplace to flee the area if they had someplace to flee the area if they had someplace to go. So that's what when I hear the to go. So that's what when I hear the to go. So that's what when I hear the Riviera um idea that there'll be the Riviera um idea that there'll be the Riviera um idea that there'll be the Riviera of the Middle East, I'm just Riviera of the Middle East, I'm just Riviera of the Middle East, I'm just like, "Okay, that's the ethnic cleansing like, "Okay, that's the ethnic cleansing like, "Okay, that's the ethnic cleansing option. It'll be done under the guise of option. It'll be done under the guise of option. It'll be done under the guise of we're going to build something that's we're going to build something that's we're going to build something that's better for you. You're going to love it. better for you. You're going to love it. better for you. You're going to love it. It's going to be amazing. We just have It's going to be amazing. We just have It's going to be amazing. We just have to displace you for four or five years." to displace you for four or five years." to displace you for four or five years." And so that's that strat. The other And so that's that strat. The other And so that's that strat. The other strategy is what I think the Egypt strategy is what I think the Egypt strategy is what I think the Egypt strategy that you laid out is, which strategy that you laid out is, which strategy that you laid out is, which would be, okay, there's those three would be, okay, there's those three would be, okay, there's those three parcels of land back. I don't know if parcels of land back. I don't know if parcels of land back. I don't know if that's what people mean when they say that's what people mean when they say that's what people mean when they say the 67 borders or whatever. Uh, but the 67 borders or whatever. Uh, but the 67 borders or whatever. Uh, but cool, here we go. You guys rejected it cool, here we go. You guys rejected it cool, here we go. You guys rejected it at one point when um, oh god, Clinton at one point when um, oh god, Clinton at one point when um, oh god, Clinton was in office, but hey, the past is the was in office, but hey, the past is the was in office, but hey, the past is the past. Like, there it is. New lines for past. Like, there it is. New lines for past. Like, there it is. New lines for you to do what you will with. Um, that you to do what you will with. Um, that you to do what you will with. Um, that one, of course, the argument is going to one, of course, the argument is going to one, of course, the argument is going to be that, well, hold on. There's be that, well, hold on. There's be that, well, hold on. There's something different about the something different about the something different about the Palestinians, which is they have not Palestinians, which is they have not Palestinians, which is they have not only the you just took my grandfather's only the you just took my grandfather's only the you just took my grandfather's house that he built with his bare hands, house that he built with his bare hands, house that he built with his bare hands, pointed a gun at my grandmother, um, but pointed a gun at my grandmother, um, but pointed a gun at my grandmother, um, but there are plenty of other places. My there are plenty of other places. My there are plenty of other places. My wife is criate and so I'm very close to wife is criate and so I'm very close to wife is criate and so I'm very close to people that literally had a gun pointed people that literally had a gun pointed people that literally had a gun pointed at them and they were told to march in at them and they were told to march in at them and they were told to march in that direction. The island got split in that direction. The island got split in that direction. The island got split in half between the Turks and the Greeks. half between the Turks and the Greeks. half between the Turks and the Greeks. And so I know intimately what that looks And so I know intimately what that looks And so I know intimately what that looks like. And they have let go of trying to like. And they have let go of trying to like. And they have let go of trying to they still want to pursue political they still want to pursue political they still want to pursue political means, but nobody's talking about means, but nobody's talking about means, but nobody's talking about invading. They're not bombing. Like invading. They're not bombing. Like invading. They're not bombing. Like there's a a cold um you know standoff there's a a cold um you know standoff there's a a cold um you know standoff there. And so you look at other places there. And so you look at other places there. And so you look at other places in the world where this kind of bad in the world where this kind of bad in the world where this kind of bad thing because to me I've talked so thing because to me I've talked so thing because to me I've talked so endlessly about this to my audience but endlessly about this to my audience but endlessly about this to my audience but um the strategy that now who we would um the strategy that now who we would um the strategy that now who we would call Israelis ran to take over the area call Israelis ran to take over the area call Israelis ran to take over the area um is it's a brilliant strategy. It's um is it's a brilliant strategy. It's um is it's a brilliant strategy. It's been used by others before. It's being been used by others before. It's being been used by others before. It's being used and I don't know this may be an used and I don't know this may be an used and I don't know this may be an area of conflict for us but for me this area of conflict for us but for me this area of conflict for us but for me this is the exact strategy that's being run is the exact strategy that's being run is the exact strategy that's being run in Europe by Muslims. and you go in, you in Europe by Muslims. and you go in, you in Europe by Muslims. and you go in, you become politically important, you become become politically important, you become become politically important, you become economically important, and then you get economically important, and then you get economically important, and then you get things your way. And that's exactly the things your way. And that's exactly the things your way. And that's exactly the strategy that Israel ran. So, if strategy that Israel ran. So, if strategy that Israel ran. So, if somebody was like, I hate that Israel somebody was like, I hate that Israel somebody was like, I hate that Israel did it, and I don't like that Muslims did it, and I don't like that Muslims did it, and I don't like that Muslims are doing it to Europe, I'm like, that's are doing it to Europe, I'm like, that's are doing it to Europe, I'm like, that's consistent. But anyway, in this consistent. But anyway, in this consistent. But anyway, in this instance, there seems to be a kicker, instance, there seems to be a kicker, instance, there seems to be a kicker, which is a religious element of it is an which is a religious element of it is an which is a religious element of it is an embarrassment that I'm not willing to embarrassment that I'm not willing to embarrassment that I'm not willing to tolerate that specifically Jews have tolerate that specifically Jews have tolerate that specifically Jews have taken land from us. Now, maybe we're taken land from us. Now, maybe we're taken land from us. Now, maybe we're right, maybe we're not. But if you end right, maybe we're not. But if you end right, maybe we're not. But if you end the argument there, which is what most the argument there, which is what most the argument there, which is what most people do, and they bicker about whether people do, and they bicker about whether people do, and they bicker about whether that's going to be true or not, it's that's going to be true or not, it's that's going to be true or not, it's you're guessing about the future, which you're guessing about the future, which you're guessing about the future, which I think is uh less useful than playing I think is uh less useful than playing I think is uh less useful than playing out what are the different scenarios. out what are the different scenarios. out what are the different scenarios. So, a scenario that you painted is it So, a scenario that you painted is it So, a scenario that you painted is it looks like Egypt, we have peace. It will looks like Egypt, we have peace. It will looks like Egypt, we have peace. It will clearly have been the right answer if clearly have been the right answer if clearly have been the right answer if they do that and that's the result that they do that and that's the result that they do that and that's the result that they get. the other option that seems they get. the other option that seems they get. the other option that seems more likely to me, which is that they do more likely to me, which is that they do more likely to me, which is that they do that and then um instead of building up that and then um instead of building up that and then um instead of building up civilian infrastructure and making life civilian infrastructure and making life civilian infrastructure and making life great and just looking forward and great and just looking forward and great and just looking forward and trying to make things economically trying to make things economically trying to make things economically better for their kids, I think they do better for their kids, I think they do better for their kids, I think they do um versions of building military tunnels um versions of building military tunnels um versions of building military tunnels 2.0, whatever that actually ends up 2.0, whatever that actually ends up 2.0, whatever that actually ends up looking like. And then from a position looking like. And then from a position looking like. And then from a position of power, they launch an attack on of power, they launch an attack on of power, they launch an attack on Israel. And so given that, I may be Israel. And so given that, I may be Israel. And so given that, I may be wrong about that, but that certainly is wrong about that, but that certainly is wrong about that, but that certainly is a plausible scenario. Um, the question a plausible scenario. Um, the question a plausible scenario. Um, the question becomes, okay, how do we let things play becomes, okay, how do we let things play becomes, okay, how do we let things play out at that moment? Like, what would out at that moment? Like, what would out at that moment? Like, what would Dave Smith, Tom Bill, you would say, if Dave Smith, Tom Bill, you would say, if Dave Smith, Tom Bill, you would say, if you guys do that and you attack Israel, you guys do that and you attack Israel, you guys do that and you attack Israel, I would expect Israel to go in and I would expect Israel to go in and I would expect Israel to go in and defeat you to the point where you just defeat you to the point where you just defeat you to the point where you just have no fight left in you. Period. End have no fight left in you. Period. End have no fight left in you. Period. End of story. It is what it is. You're of story. It is what it is. You're of story. It is what it is. You're broken. We take all the territory. broken. We take all the territory. broken. We take all the territory. you. You had your chance. You blew it. you. You had your chance. You blew it. you. You had your chance. You blew it. and now I'm pushing all the way to every and now I'm pushing all the way to every and now I'm pushing all the way to every border. This is all mine now. Um, and I border. This is all mine now. Um, and I border. This is all mine now. Um, and I would be like, "Yeah, like at some would be like, "Yeah, like at some would be like, "Yeah, like at some point, like if if Canada kept invading point, like if if Canada kept invading point, like if if Canada kept invading us, I would do exactly that." And I'd be us, I would do exactly that." And I'd be us, I would do exactly that." And I'd be like, "Nope, sorry." So, um, I don't like, "Nope, sorry." So, um, I don't like, "Nope, sorry." So, um, I don't expect that to be a popular uh opinion, expect that to be a popular uh opinion, expect that to be a popular uh opinion, but nonetheless, it is an opinion. So, but nonetheless, it is an opinion. So, but nonetheless, it is an opinion. So, what I'd love to hear is in your what I'd love to hear is in your what I'd love to hear is in your thinking, obviously, you're hoping for, thinking, obviously, you're hoping for, thinking, obviously, you're hoping for, and I love the optimism. Lord knows I and I love the optimism. Lord knows I and I love the optimism. Lord knows I hope that's what would happen as well. hope that's what would happen as well. hope that's what would happen as well. Egypt, stale conflict, we just get Egypt, stale conflict, we just get Egypt, stale conflict, we just get along. But if along. But if along. But if Palestinians Palestinians Palestinians were to take the next five or 10 years were to take the next five or 10 years were to take the next five or 10 years to build up real strength and then to build up real strength and then to build up real strength and then attack Israel, what would you consider a attack Israel, what would you consider a attack Israel, what would you consider a reasonable reaction on behalf of Israel? reasonable reaction on behalf of Israel? reasonable reaction on behalf of Israel? Well, I think that like even when you Well, I think that like even when you Well, I think that like even when you say like, you know, hey, if Canada kept say like, you know, hey, if Canada kept say like, you know, hey, if Canada kept attacking us over and over again, um attacking us over and over again, um attacking us over and over again, um then but again, like it's just that's then but again, like it's just that's then but again, like it's just that's not the the apples to apples comparison. not the the apples to apples comparison. not the the apples to apples comparison. >> Really fast and let me put it in your >> Really fast and let me put it in your >> Really fast and let me put it in your language. So, you know, I do understand language. So, you know, I do understand language. So, you know, I do understand it was just oversimplifying. it was just oversimplifying. it was just oversimplifying. >> No, no, no, no. I understand. I just say >> No, no, no, no. I understand. I just say >> No, no, no, no. I understand. I just say I I'll just say real fast. It's the I I'll just say real fast. It's the I I'll just say real fast. It's the Native Americans on a Native American Native Americans on a Native American Native Americans on a Native American reservation except we don't let them reservation except we don't let them reservation except we don't let them leave the reservation. they're they're leave the reservation. they're they're leave the reservation. they're they're trapped in the reservation and also we trapped in the reservation and also we trapped in the reservation and also we never gave them citizenship or we never never gave them citizenship or we never never gave them citizenship or we never gave them anything and so there's still gave them anything and so there's still gave them anything and so there's still and then also every now and then uh when and then also every now and then uh when and then also every now and then uh when they attack we go in there and just mow they attack we go in there and just mow they attack we go in there and just mow the lawn and kill a whole bunch of them the lawn and kill a whole bunch of them the lawn and kill a whole bunch of them right and so like like this is more the right and so like like this is more the right and so like like this is more the dynamic now if you're saying if they dynamic now if you're saying if they dynamic now if you're saying if they were to give them their own state and if were to give them their own state and if were to give them their own state and if they were to end the military occupation they were to end the military occupation they were to end the military occupation and then it was more a situation of and then it was more a situation of and then it was more a situation of Canada attacking America over the fact Canada attacking America over the fact Canada attacking America over the fact that look we had done that to them that look we had done that to them that look we had done that to them forever like let's say they just don't forever like let's say they just don't forever like let's say they just don't let that go in the same way that like if let that go in the same way that like if let that go in the same way that like if there were black people in 1890 who were there were black people in 1890 who were there were black people in 1890 who were still just attacking random white people still just attacking random white people still just attacking random white people and going, "Hey, you enslaved us all and going, "Hey, you enslaved us all and going, "Hey, you enslaved us all this time." Well, okay. In the context this time." Well, okay. In the context this time." Well, okay. In the context of that, like it depends. Are we talking of that, like it depends. Are we talking of that, like it depends. Are we talking in a one-state solution? Are we talking in a one-state solution? Are we talking in a one-state solution? Are we talking in a two-state solution? If it's a in a two-state solution? If it's a in a two-state solution? If it's a one-state solution, well, then the one-state solution, well, then the one-state solution, well, then the answer is that that's a police matter answer is that that's a police matter answer is that that's a police matter and you arrest those people and you and you arrest those people and you and you arrest those people and you prosecute them. Yes. Sorry. You're still prosecute them. Yes. Sorry. You're still prosecute them. Yes. Sorry. You're still you're not allowed to be violent just you're not allowed to be violent just you're not allowed to be violent just because there was violence done in the because there was violence done in the because there was violence done in the past to you and otherwise there's no way past to you and otherwise there's no way past to you and otherwise there's no way to move forward from this. But if you're to move forward from this. But if you're to move forward from this. But if you're asking me what, no, I wouldn't say that asking me what, no, I wouldn't say that asking me what, no, I wouldn't say that then Israel should go annex all of the then Israel should go annex all of the then Israel should go annex all of the land or ethnically cleanse all of the land or ethnically cleanse all of the land or ethnically cleanse all of the people. No, I would say you'd still have people. No, I would say you'd still have people. No, I would say you'd still have to operate under some type of just war to operate under some type of just war to operate under some type of just war of Christianity or some type of of Christianity or some type of of Christianity or some type of constitutional process or something constitutional process or something constitutional process or something where it would be like, hey, if you were where it would be like, hey, if you were where it would be like, hey, if you were attacked, you kind of have the right to attacked, you kind of have the right to attacked, you kind of have the right to defend yourself. You have the right to a defend yourself. You have the right to a defend yourself. You have the right to a proportional response. You have to try proportional response. You have to try proportional response. You have to try to take out the people who were the to take out the people who were the to take out the people who were the aggressors in that situation. But no, I aggressors in that situation. But no, I aggressors in that situation. But no, I wouldn't say you get to just go on some wouldn't say you get to just go on some wouldn't say you get to just go on some like medieval type conquest or something like medieval type conquest or something like medieval type conquest or something like that. Um, but again, if you want to like that. Um, but again, if you want to like that. Um, but again, if you want to talk about the situation as it is, I talk about the situation as it is, I talk about the situation as it is, I mean, the situation as it is is mean, the situation as it is is mean, the situation as it is is evidently uh according to uh Katz, the evidently uh according to uh Katz, the evidently uh according to uh Katz, the defense minister in Israel, he just defense minister in Israel, he just defense minister in Israel, he just announced a few days ago that they're announced a few days ago that they're announced a few days ago that they're doing a massive ethnic cleansing doing a massive ethnic cleansing doing a massive ethnic cleansing campaign in southern Lebanon. And campaign in southern Lebanon. And campaign in southern Lebanon. And there's been something like 600,000 there's been something like 600,000 there's been something like 600,000 people have fled southern Lebanon to the people have fled southern Lebanon to the people have fled southern Lebanon to the north uh because Israel's been attacking north uh because Israel's been attacking north uh because Israel's been attacking the area uh pretty viciously for for um the area uh pretty viciously for for um the area uh pretty viciously for for um well intensely for weeks now but for well intensely for weeks now but for well intensely for weeks now but for months and years and they just announced months and years and they just announced months and years and they just announced none of them can come back. So like none of them can come back. So like none of them can come back. So like what's actually going on here is that what's actually going on here is that what's actually going on here is that Israel is an expansionist state that is Israel is an expansionist state that is Israel is an expansionist state that is looking to take over these territories. looking to take over these territories. looking to take over these territories. And you know there there is this dynamic And you know there there is this dynamic And you know there there is this dynamic where like even as the thing is that we where like even as the thing is that we where like even as the thing is that we live in a liberal world order and there live in a liberal world order and there live in a liberal world order and there it even I don't mean liberal just in the it even I don't mean liberal just in the it even I don't mean liberal just in the way that people think of liberal verse way that people think of liberal verse way that people think of liberal verse conservative but there is a very um conservative but there is a very um conservative but there is a very um inherently leftwing idea about the inherently leftwing idea about the inherently leftwing idea about the global world order. the idea of global world order. the idea of global world order. the idea of international law and democracy and international law and democracy and international law and democracy and equality and all of these things. And equality and all of these things. And equality and all of these things. And Israel plays on that. They go, "We're Israel plays on that. They go, "We're Israel plays on that. They go, "We're the only democracy in the Middle East." the only democracy in the Middle East." the only democracy in the Middle East." You know, like they say, "Hey, look, You know, like they say, "Hey, look, You know, like they say, "Hey, look, we're just like you. We're one of the we're just like you. We're one of the we're just like you. We're one of the Western nations here." But the thing is, Western nations here." But the thing is, Western nations here." But the thing is, if you want to be a democracy, then you if you want to be a democracy, then you if you want to be a democracy, then you can't have control of like 7 million can't have control of like 7 million can't have control of like 7 million people who don't have citizenship or people who don't have citizenship or people who don't have citizenship or voting rights cuz that's not what any of voting rights cuz that's not what any of voting rights cuz that's not what any of us consider democracy to be. If you us consider democracy to be. If you us consider democracy to be. If you wanted to be a decent liberal country, wanted to be a decent liberal country, wanted to be a decent liberal country, then you'd have to either have a then you'd have to either have a then you'd have to either have a one-state solution where everyone was one-state solution where everyone was one-state solution where everyone was given citizenship or you could have a given citizenship or you could have a given citizenship or you could have a two-state solution. They don't want to two-state solution. They don't want to two-state solution. They don't want to do either of those things. But I will do either of those things. But I will do either of those things. But I will say because I'm not a left-winger, um say because I'm not a left-winger, um say because I'm not a left-winger, um there's also a way that Israel could be there's also a way that Israel could be there's also a way that Israel could be like kind of an honorable right-wing like kind of an honorable right-wing like kind of an honorable right-wing country if they wanted to do that. That country if they wanted to do that. That country if they wanted to do that. That to me would look something like because to me would look something like because to me would look something like because essentially what Israel argues is like essentially what Israel argues is like essentially what Israel argues is like we can't give them their own state we can't give them their own state we can't give them their own state because then they could build up their because then they could build up their because then they could build up their own military and then they could use own military and then they could use own military and then they could use that to attack us. And we can't have a that to attack us. And we can't have a that to attack us. And we can't have a one-state democratic solution because one-state democratic solution because one-state democratic solution because then we don't have the votes to keep then we don't have the votes to keep then we don't have the votes to keep this as a Jewish state. We essentially this as a Jewish state. We essentially this as a Jewish state. We essentially lose the state because there's there's lose the state because there's there's lose the state because there's there's as many non-Jews as there are Jews here as many non-Jews as there are Jews here as many non-Jews as there are Jews here and they're out breeding us. So, pretty and they're out breeding us. So, pretty and they're out breeding us. So, pretty soon we're not going to be But there is soon we're not going to be But there is soon we're not going to be But there is a right-wing solution that would offend a right-wing solution that would offend a right-wing solution that would offend the entire global liberal sensibilities. the entire global liberal sensibilities. the entire global liberal sensibilities. But that would just be like, okay, it's But that would just be like, okay, it's But that would just be like, okay, it's all one state. It's Israel. It's staying all one state. It's Israel. It's staying all one state. It's Israel. It's staying a Jewish state. You guys don't have a Jewish state. You guys don't have a Jewish state. You guys don't have voting rights. You are citizens though voting rights. You are citizens though voting rights. You are citizens though and that means you do have property and that means you do have property and that means you do have property rights and you do have the right to a rights and you do have the right to a rights and you do have the right to a fair trial with a jury of your peers. fair trial with a jury of your peers. fair trial with a jury of your peers. Not these military tribunals which the Not these military tribunals which the Not these military tribunals which the Palestinians are lucky to get which is Palestinians are lucky to get which is Palestinians are lucky to get which is like a 98% conviction rate or something like a 98% conviction rate or something like a 98% conviction rate or something like that. Um they just were pouring like that. Um they just were pouring like that. Um they just were pouring champagne about introducing the death champagne about introducing the death champagne about introducing the death penalty for those people who don't even penalty for those people who don't even penalty for those people who don't even get fair trials. Um, but like yeah, you get fair trials. Um, but like yeah, you get fair trials. Um, but like yeah, you have property rights and the right to have property rights and the right to have property rights and the right to travel and the right to a fair trial and travel and the right to a fair trial and travel and the right to a fair trial and the right like you have every bit equal the right like you have every bit equal the right like you have every bit equal rights, but this is a Jewish state that rights, but this is a Jewish state that rights, but this is a Jewish state that you live under and there's one you live under and there's one you live under and there's one government here and you guys can't build government here and you guys can't build government here and you guys can't build your own military. I think that would your own military. I think that would your own military. I think that would also be like a reason. But again, if also be like a reason. But again, if also be like a reason. But again, if you're saying like let's not have the you're saying like let's not have the you're saying like let's not have the conversation about what could be, let's conversation about what could be, let's conversation about what could be, let's have the conversation about what is, have the conversation about what is, have the conversation about what is, what is is none of those things. And I what is is none of those things. And I what is is none of those things. And I think you are certainly right that you think you are certainly right that you think you are certainly right that you know they've been floating out ethnic know they've been floating out ethnic know they've been floating out ethnic cleansing plans of Gaza since the war cleansing plans of Gaza since the war cleansing plans of Gaza since the war started really since since right after started really since since right after started really since since right after October 7th. You heard uh talk of this October 7th. You heard uh talk of this October 7th. You heard uh talk of this um backed by the president of the United um backed by the president of the United um backed by the president of the United States who in fact announced that we're States who in fact announced that we're States who in fact announced that we're doing it. Never has but announced that doing it. Never has but announced that doing it. Never has but announced that we are taking control of it. Um and now we are taking control of it. Um and now we are taking control of it. Um and now they're taking over uh southern Lebanon. they're taking over uh southern Lebanon. they're taking over uh southern Lebanon. They've expanded their territory in They've expanded their territory in They've expanded their territory in Syria in the last few years and they Syria in the last few years and they Syria in the last few years and they recently very intentionally while JD recently very intentionally while JD recently very intentionally while JD Vance was in Israel they had a vote in Vance was in Israel they had a vote in Vance was in Israel they had a vote in the Knesscent to formally annex the West the Knesscent to formally annex the West the Knesscent to formally annex the West Bank and so it seems to me that Israel Bank and so it seems to me that Israel Bank and so it seems to me that Israel the the highest levels of Israeli the the highest levels of Israeli the the highest levels of Israeli leadership have made a calculation and leadership have made a calculation and leadership have made a calculation and it's not that irrational of a it's not that irrational of a it's not that irrational of a calculation. It's certainly immoral, but calculation. It's certainly immoral, but calculation. It's certainly immoral, but I don't think it's that irrational from I don't think it's that irrational from I don't think it's that irrational from their perspective. And it's basically their perspective. And it's basically their perspective. And it's basically this. this. this. They have um They have um They have um uh global opinion has been turned uh global opinion has been turned uh global opinion has been turned against Israel in a profound way in in against Israel in a profound way in in against Israel in a profound way in in the last few years, but American the last few years, but American the last few years, but American opinions about Israel have drastically opinions about Israel have drastically opinions about Israel have drastically changed. And there's all types of polls changed. And there's all types of polls changed. And there's all types of polls you can you can look at on this, but it you can you can look at on this, but it you can you can look at on this, but it is unbelievable. I mean, like it is like is unbelievable. I mean, like it is like is unbelievable. I mean, like it is like 50 and under do not support Israel in 50 and under do not support Israel in 50 and under do not support Israel in this country anymore. And the Israelis this country anymore. And the Israelis this country anymore. And the Israelis are not stupid. Um, we talked about that are not stupid. Um, we talked about that are not stupid. Um, we talked about that Ashkenazi IQ before. They're they see Ashkenazi IQ before. They're they see Ashkenazi IQ before. They're they see that too. And so you've got a dynamic that too. And so you've got a dynamic that too. And so you've got a dynamic where um Benjamin Netanyahu has just where um Benjamin Netanyahu has just where um Benjamin Netanyahu has just been the biggest thing he's ever done been the biggest thing he's ever done been the biggest thing he's ever done that Israel's ever done. Um really there that Israel's ever done. Um really there that Israel's ever done. Um really there was in the whole Israel Palestine was in the whole Israel Palestine was in the whole Israel Palestine conflict. There was never a terrorist conflict. There was never a terrorist conflict. There was never a terrorist attack as big as October 7th and there attack as big as October 7th and there attack as big as October 7th and there was never uh an Israeli attack as big as was never uh an Israeli attack as big as was never uh an Israeli attack as big as the destruction of Gaza. This is the the destruction of Gaza. This is the the destruction of Gaza. This is the biggest thing ever. and he's got uh this biggest thing ever. and he's got uh this biggest thing ever. and he's got uh this country that is totally dependent on country that is totally dependent on country that is totally dependent on America having their back. He's got the America having their back. He's got the America having their back. He's got the most pro-Israel administration in most pro-Israel administration in most pro-Israel administration in American history in there right now. But American history in there right now. But American history in there right now. But it's over for the future. And so if it's over for the future. And so if it's over for the future. And so if you're them, you go, we got to do it you're them, you go, we got to do it you're them, you go, we got to do it right now. Right now is obviously the right now. Right now is obviously the right now. Right now is obviously the time to strike. And so this is what time to strike. And so this is what time to strike. And so this is what we're doing right now. And in this we're doing right now. And in this we're doing right now. And in this context, we have, by the way, I mean, context, we have, by the way, I mean, context, we have, by the way, I mean, we'll see. Donald Trump is a madman and we'll see. Donald Trump is a madman and we'll see. Donald Trump is a madman and also a buffoon. So, who knows if he's also a buffoon. So, who knows if he's also a buffoon. So, who knows if he's going to fight, but he just posted today going to fight, but he just posted today going to fight, but he just posted today that we're about to end Iranian that we're about to end Iranian that we're about to end Iranian civilization and said the deadline is civilization and said the deadline is civilization and said the deadline is 8:00 p.m. tonight. And but the the uh 8:00 p.m. tonight. And but the the uh 8:00 p.m. tonight. And but the the uh Iranian foreign minister just said he's Iranian foreign minister just said he's Iranian foreign minister just said he's canled all talks. Like they're not canled all talks. Like they're not canled all talks. Like they're not agreeing to a deal unless some magical agreeing to a deal unless some magical agreeing to a deal unless some magical rabbit comes out of a hat in the next rabbit comes out of a hat in the next rabbit comes out of a hat in the next few hours here. The president has few hours here. The president has few hours here. The president has promised like they're calling his bluff promised like they're calling his bluff promised like they're calling his bluff and we'll see what happens. But this to and we'll see what happens. But this to and we'll see what happens. But this to me seems to be the perspective of the me seems to be the perspective of the me seems to be the perspective of the Israelis. Forget any of that. We're not Israelis. Forget any of that. We're not Israelis. Forget any of that. We're not going to be an honorable right-wing going to be an honorable right-wing going to be an honorable right-wing society and we're certainly not going to society and we're certainly not going to society and we're certainly not going to be a liberal or a left-wing society. We be a liberal or a left-wing society. We be a liberal or a left-wing society. We are going to conquer this region and we are going to conquer this region and we are going to conquer this region and we will see what the reaction to that is, will see what the reaction to that is, will see what the reaction to that is, man. But I do I I mean I just think man. But I do I I mean I just think man. But I do I I mean I just think there's nothing but disaster behind that there's nothing but disaster behind that there's nothing but disaster behind that door. So there might be people who who door. So there might be people who who door. So there might be people who who want to say, "Oh, Dave's being naive to want to say, "Oh, Dave's being naive to want to say, "Oh, Dave's being naive to think that it could be like Germany and think that it could be like Germany and think that it could be like Germany and France just living right next to each France just living right next to each France just living right next to each other and being fine, or they could be other and being fine, or they could be other and being fine, or they could be like Ireland and England." By the way, like Ireland and England." By the way, like Ireland and England." By the way, those same people would have called me those same people would have called me those same people would have called me naive if I had suggested back then that naive if I had suggested back then that naive if I had suggested back then that it, you know, that it could have been it, you know, that it could have been it, you know, that it could have been like this with those countries. But you like this with those countries. But you like this with those countries. But you want, you know, you want to see what's want, you know, you want to see what's want, you know, you want to see what's behind door number two. behind door number two. behind door number two. I mean, it is quite possible that the I mean, it is quite possible that the I mean, it is quite possible that the Iranian respon says he's going to take Iranian respon says he's going to take Iranian respon says he's going to take out every bridge and every power plant out every bridge and every power plant out every bridge and every power plant in the country. I don't see why they in the country. I don't see why they in the country. I don't see why they wouldn't take out some of those wouldn't take out some of those wouldn't take out some of those desalination plants. I'm sure you've desalination plants. I'm sure you've desalination plants. I'm sure you've read some of those numbers there, which read some of those numbers there, which read some of those numbers there, which that, you know, turns out desalination that, you know, turns out desalination that, you know, turns out desalination is really important in the desert. Um, is really important in the desert. Um, is really important in the desert. Um, and uh there's like there's like in a and uh there's like there's like in a and uh there's like there's like in a bunch of these different countries like bunch of these different countries like bunch of these different countries like 98% of the drinking water in the UAE in 98% of the drinking water in the UAE in 98% of the drinking water in the UAE in Oman are like come from desalinization Oman are like come from desalinization Oman are like come from desalinization and there's all types of major energy and there's all types of major energy and there's all types of major energy targets that Iran has not hit yet. So targets that Iran has not hit yet. So targets that Iran has not hit yet. So I'm just saying like already in this I'm just saying like already in this I'm just saying like already in this thing you can see where this is going. thing you can see where this is going. thing you can see where this is going. And what do you think like you know you And what do you think like you know you And what do you think like you know you think that the the in southern Lebanon think that the the in southern Lebanon think that the the in southern Lebanon now you just ethnically cleanse 600,000 now you just ethnically cleanse 600,000 now you just ethnically cleanse 600,000 more people. Is that going to help more people. Is that going to help more people. Is that going to help Hezbollah's recruitment efforts or hurt Hezbollah's recruitment efforts or hurt Hezbollah's recruitment efforts or hurt Hezbollah's recruitment efforts? And Hezbollah's recruitment efforts? And Hezbollah's recruitment efforts? And this is this behind this door is forever this is this behind this door is forever this is this behind this door is forever war. war. war. And and that's what we've been pursuing And and that's what we've been pursuing And and that's what we've been pursuing this whole time. And so it's like, you this whole time. And so it's like, you this whole time. And so it's like, you know, the reality of the situation is it know, the reality of the situation is it know, the reality of the situation is it seems to be that the argument amongst seems to be that the argument amongst seems to be that the argument amongst the American people has been won by the the American people has been won by the the American people has been won by the critics of Israel and this critics of Israel and this critics of Israel and this neoonservative foreign policy. And yet neoonservative foreign policy. And yet neoonservative foreign policy. And yet the policy is going to be the policy is going to be the policy is going to be I mean pushing the accelerator down to I mean pushing the accelerator down to I mean pushing the accelerator down to the floor and seeing how much Netanyahu the floor and seeing how much Netanyahu the floor and seeing how much Netanyahu can take right now. can take right now. can take right now. >> When you say how much he can take, what >> When you say how much he can take, what >> When you say how much he can take, what do you mean? Oh. Oh. how much land he do you mean? Oh. Oh. how much land he do you mean? Oh. Oh. how much land he can take. can take. can take. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, look, look, it's >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, look, look, it's >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, look, look, it's right in front of Look, he said himself right in front of Look, he said himself right in front of Look, he said himself that the Greater Israel Project is near that the Greater Israel Project is near that the Greater Israel Project is near and dear to his heart when he was asked and dear to his heart when he was asked and dear to his heart when he was asked about this like 6 months ago. He's look, about this like 6 months ago. He's look, about this like 6 months ago. He's look, when Bashar al-Assad immediately fell, when Bashar al-Assad immediately fell, when Bashar al-Assad immediately fell, they went and took a bunch of territory they went and took a bunch of territory they went and took a bunch of territory in Syria. in Syria. in Syria. >> Does the Greater Israel project have >> Does the Greater Israel project have >> Does the Greater Israel project have specific borders that they're trying to specific borders that they're trying to specific borders that they're trying to achieve? achieve? achieve? >> Well, you know, I think it's essentially >> Well, you know, I think it's essentially >> Well, you know, I think it's essentially what Mike Huckabe said, right? It's for what Mike Huckabe said, right? It's for what Mike Huckabe said, right? It's for it's there all of this land. So it would it's there all of this land. So it would it's there all of this land. So it would include um big chunks of Saudi Arabia, include um big chunks of Saudi Arabia, include um big chunks of Saudi Arabia, chunks of Lebanon, chunks of Iraq, chunks of Lebanon, chunks of Iraq, chunks of Lebanon, chunks of Iraq, obviously all of the West Bank, all of obviously all of the West Bank, all of obviously all of the West Bank, all of Gaza, um big chunks of Syria. Um and and Gaza, um big chunks of Syria. Um and and Gaza, um big chunks of Syria. Um and and and look, I mean again, this isn't like and look, I mean again, this isn't like and look, I mean again, this isn't like I'm not like putting together dots on a I'm not like putting together dots on a I'm not like putting together dots on a chalkboard of like a conspiracy. I'm chalkboard of like a conspiracy. I'm chalkboard of like a conspiracy. I'm just saying like literally they're just saying like literally they're just saying like literally they're talking about nicely cleansing Gaza and talking about nicely cleansing Gaza and talking about nicely cleansing Gaza and taking it over. They're expanding taking it over. They're expanding taking it over. They're expanding settlements in the West Bank and and at settlements in the West Bank and and at settlements in the West Bank and and at least formerly in the Knessetence saying least formerly in the Knessetence saying least formerly in the Knessetence saying that they're going to annex the thing. that they're going to annex the thing. that they're going to annex the thing. They just ex took a bunch of territory They just ex took a bunch of territory They just ex took a bunch of territory in Syria. They just took a bunch of in Syria. They just took a bunch of in Syria. They just took a bunch of territory in Lebanon. This is an territory in Lebanon. This is an territory in Lebanon. This is an expansionist regime. Like there's no, expansionist regime. Like there's no, expansionist regime. Like there's no, you know, like they may call it, they you know, like they may call it, they you know, like they may call it, they don't call it Lebanon's realm. They call don't call it Lebanon's realm. They call don't call it Lebanon's realm. They call it a security buffer. But okay, would it a security buffer. But okay, would it a security buffer. But okay, would that have been okay if Hitler had just that have been okay if Hitler had just that have been okay if Hitler had just called it something else? This is what called it something else? This is what called it something else? This is what they're doing. They're taking more they're doing. They're taking more they're doing. They're taking more territory and they're openly territory and they're openly territory and they're openly acknowledging it. acknowledging it. acknowledging it. >> Okay. So, um, we're certainly going to >> Okay. So, um, we're certainly going to >> Okay. So, um, we're certainly going to get to see how it plays out. But if I get to see how it plays out. But if I get to see how it plays out. But if I just try to map your mental model of, just try to map your mental model of, just try to map your mental model of, um, how this is going. Uh, Israel is um, how this is going. Uh, Israel is um, how this is going. Uh, Israel is using the destabilized nature of the using the destabilized nature of the using the destabilized nature of the region right now precisely because they region right now precisely because they region right now precisely because they have the most pro-Israeli have the most pro-Israeli have the most pro-Israeli um, US government in a long time. Uh, um, US government in a long time. Uh, um, US government in a long time. Uh, they are gobbling up territory right now they are gobbling up territory right now they are gobbling up territory right now in Lebanon and Syria. um calling it a in Lebanon and Syria. um calling it a in Lebanon and Syria. um calling it a security buffer, but obviously security buffer, but obviously security buffer, but obviously territorial acquisition by any other territorial acquisition by any other territorial acquisition by any other name is still territory acquisition. Um name is still territory acquisition. Um name is still territory acquisition. Um do do do when I think about them having to when I think about them having to when I think about them having to prosecute those regions, prosecute those regions, prosecute those regions, Lebanon would have to have a reason not Lebanon would have to have a reason not Lebanon would have to have a reason not to attack and that could just be that to attack and that could just be that to attack and that could just be that they think they'll lose. Uh it could be they think they'll lose. Uh it could be they think they'll lose. Uh it could be that they think that the Americans will that they think that the Americans will that they think that the Americans will get involved. Same with Syria. Do you get involved. Same with Syria. Do you get involved. Same with Syria. Do you have a sense of what the calculation is have a sense of what the calculation is have a sense of what the calculation is coming out of Lebanon or Syria around coming out of Lebanon or Syria around coming out of Lebanon or Syria around this issue? this issue? this issue? >> Um, no. I, you know, I I don't know. I >> Um, no. I, you know, I I don't know. I >> Um, no. I, you know, I I don't know. I mean, uh, I think that Hezbollah really mean, uh, I think that Hezbollah really mean, uh, I think that Hezbollah really was um greatly um set back by um by the was um greatly um set back by um by the was um greatly um set back by um by the MSAD uh pager attack and a bunch of MSAD uh pager attack and a bunch of MSAD uh pager attack and a bunch of different bombing campaigns in Lebanon different bombing campaigns in Lebanon different bombing campaigns in Lebanon over the last two years. And they really over the last two years. And they really over the last two years. And they really they Israel had dealt with less trouble they Israel had dealt with less trouble they Israel had dealt with less trouble from Hezbollah than they have in decades from Hezbollah than they have in decades from Hezbollah than they have in decades over the last uh year and a half or so. over the last uh year and a half or so. over the last uh year and a half or so. But then Hezbollah they were taking some But then Hezbollah they were taking some But then Hezbollah they were taking some rockets uh when the after the war in rockets uh when the after the war in rockets uh when the after the war in Iran kicked off. Now I don't know will Iran kicked off. Now I don't know will Iran kicked off. Now I don't know will America get involved there. I know America get involved there. I know America get involved there. I know Lindsey Graham was urging Donald Trump Lindsey Graham was urging Donald Trump Lindsey Graham was urging Donald Trump to get in on the fighting in in Lebanon. to get in on the fighting in in Lebanon. to get in on the fighting in in Lebanon. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know, I mean, like I I would have You know, I mean, like I I would have You know, I mean, like I I would have said even a year ago that I think Donald said even a year ago that I think Donald said even a year ago that I think Donald Trump's pretty hesitant to get more Trump's pretty hesitant to get more Trump's pretty hesitant to get more bogged down in conflicts like that, but bogged down in conflicts like that, but bogged down in conflicts like that, but I really am just not sure where his I really am just not sure where his I really am just not sure where his mentality is at this point. Um, mentality is at this point. Um, mentality is at this point. Um, >> so really fast because this I think is >> so really fast because this I think is >> so really fast because this I think is bringing into sharp uh contrast maybe bringing into sharp uh contrast maybe bringing into sharp uh contrast maybe the different worldviews that you and I the different worldviews that you and I the different worldviews that you and I have and so we can both make a have and so we can both make a have and so we can both make a prediction because I think the way you prediction because I think the way you prediction because I think the way you see things makes one prediction. The way see things makes one prediction. The way see things makes one prediction. The way I see things makes another. uh you've I see things makes another. uh you've I see things makes another. uh you've been very clear that you know that this been very clear that you know that this been very clear that you know that this is complicated and so there's many is complicated and so there's many is complicated and so there's many forces pulling so you may um effectively forces pulling so you may um effectively forces pulling so you may um effectively hedge at this moment. I'm not going to hedge at this moment. I'm not going to hedge at this moment. I'm not going to hedge partly because I just want to test hedge partly because I just want to test hedge partly because I just want to test my own thesis. So um because I believe my own thesis. So um because I believe my own thesis. So um because I believe that Donald Trump is I'm trying to get that Donald Trump is I'm trying to get that Donald Trump is I'm trying to get on Mount Rushmore. I know that I do it on Mount Rushmore. I know that I do it on Mount Rushmore. I know that I do it by growing. This is an economic question by growing. This is an economic question by growing. This is an economic question purely. I'm thinking about China and purely. I'm thinking about China and purely. I'm thinking about China and financial growth for America. Period. financial growth for America. Period. financial growth for America. Period. Full stop. That that is my mental map. Full stop. That that is my mental map. Full stop. That that is my mental map. So he will not get involved in uh So he will not get involved in uh So he will not get involved in uh Lebanon. He's not going to get involved Lebanon. He's not going to get involved Lebanon. He's not going to get involved in Syria. He would sell weapons because in Syria. He would sell weapons because in Syria. He would sell weapons because that's good economically. So he'll that's good economically. So he'll that's good economically. So he'll support with all weapons all the time um support with all weapons all the time um support with all weapons all the time um anything that rings the cash register anything that rings the cash register anything that rings the cash register from that point. So would he do air from that point. So would he do air from that point. So would he do air campaigns? Probably not. I I would say campaigns? Probably not. I I would say campaigns? Probably not. I I would say I'd give that less than a 10% chance I'd give that less than a 10% chance I'd give that less than a 10% chance even though um that gives him a way to even though um that gives him a way to even though um that gives him a way to feed the military-industrial complex feed the military-industrial complex feed the military-industrial complex back home. I think if that money um at a back home. I think if that money um at a back home. I think if that money um at a minimum isn't coming back to us as minimum isn't coming back to us as minimum isn't coming back to us as vouchers that we gave to the Israelis, I vouchers that we gave to the Israelis, I vouchers that we gave to the Israelis, I don't I my prediction just to keep don't I my prediction just to keep don't I my prediction just to keep myself uh accountable is that he will myself uh accountable is that he will myself uh accountable is that he will not get involved in that. Sell weapons? not get involved in that. Sell weapons? not get involved in that. Sell weapons? Yes. Actively targeting? No. Iran. Yes. Actively targeting? No. Iran. Yes. Actively targeting? No. Iran. >> No, I think Go ahead. >> No, I think Go ahead. >> No, I think Go ahead. >> So, no, no, I'm sorry. No, I don't think >> So, no, no, I'm sorry. No, I don't think >> So, no, no, I'm sorry. No, I don't think necessar, you know, I I I have a tough necessar, you know, I I I have a tough necessar, you know, I I I have a tough time with these predictions, making time with these predictions, making time with these predictions, making predictions like this because there are predictions like this because there are predictions like this because there are just so many factors and variables to just so many factors and variables to just so many factors and variables to them. But I don't necessarily uh them. But I don't necessarily uh them. But I don't necessarily uh disagree with with that. I mean, I think disagree with with that. I mean, I think disagree with with that. I mean, I think that it seems pretty clear to me and that it seems pretty clear to me and that it seems pretty clear to me and there's a lot of reporting to back this there's a lot of reporting to back this there's a lot of reporting to back this up that Donald Trump got convinced he up that Donald Trump got convinced he up that Donald Trump got convinced he was he was convinced and particularly was he was convinced and particularly was he was convinced and particularly after the Venezuela strike and with after the Venezuela strike and with after the Venezuela strike and with these huge protests in Iran that he these huge protests in Iran that he these huge protests in Iran that he could decapitate the regime with an air could decapitate the regime with an air could decapitate the regime with an air campaign. um and that he would go in the campaign. um and that he would go in the campaign. um and that he would go in the day one where they killed Solommani. day one where they killed Solommani. day one where they killed Solommani. They clearly had some good intelligence They clearly had some good intelligence They clearly had some good intelligence on where he was going to be. Um although on where he was going to be. Um although on where he was going to be. Um although there's reports that he knew that and there's reports that he knew that and there's reports that he knew that and just was not going to go into hiding. just was not going to go into hiding. just was not going to go into hiding. Who knows if that's true or not. Um but Who knows if that's true or not. Um but Who knows if that's true or not. Um but they decap I mean Donald Trump announces they decap I mean Donald Trump announces they decap I mean Donald Trump announces on the first day that to for the Iranian on the first day that to for the Iranian on the first day that to for the Iranian people stay inside tonight but then people stay inside tonight but then people stay inside tonight but then you're going to take over this you're going to take over this you're going to take over this government. You know like this was kind government. You know like this was kind government. You know like this was kind of the plan and then clearly it didn't of the plan and then clearly it didn't of the plan and then clearly it didn't go that way. And I do think that Donald go that way. And I do think that Donald go that way. And I do think that Donald Trump's been looking for an off-ramp Trump's been looking for an off-ramp Trump's been looking for an off-ramp much like he was in the 12-day war. I much like he was in the 12-day war. I much like he was in the 12-day war. I think the problem is that there is this think the problem is that there is this think the problem is that there is this escalation trap at this point that he escalation trap at this point that he escalation trap at this point that he may not be able to get himself out of. may not be able to get himself out of. may not be able to get himself out of. Um, and the escalation trap part of it Um, and the escalation trap part of it Um, and the escalation trap part of it is that Donald Trump goes like, "Okay, is that Donald Trump goes like, "Okay, is that Donald Trump goes like, "Okay, I'm going to talk crazy tough to bring I'm going to talk crazy tough to bring I'm going to talk crazy tough to bring you guys to the negotiating table." And you guys to the negotiating table." And you guys to the negotiating table." And if that doesn't work, the only speed he if that doesn't work, the only speed he if that doesn't work, the only speed he has is I've got to go even tougher to has is I've got to go even tougher to has is I've got to go even tougher to bring you to the negotiating table. And bring you to the negotiating table. And bring you to the negotiating table. And that's a very difficult game. So, I that's a very difficult game. So, I that's a very difficult game. So, I think it's quite possible that you're think it's quite possible that you're think it's quite possible that you're right. Um, I'm praying that somehow right. Um, I'm praying that somehow right. Um, I'm praying that somehow Donald Trump is able to just call it Donald Trump is able to just call it Donald Trump is able to just call it quits and declare victory and then we'll quits and declare victory and then we'll quits and declare victory and then we'll see what happens uh from there. Um, but see what happens uh from there. Um, but see what happens uh from there. Um, but I I think you're right that I think when I I think you're right that I think when I I think you're right that I think when Donald Trump it it may not maybe where I Donald Trump it it may not maybe where I Donald Trump it it may not maybe where I would differ with you is I don't think would differ with you is I don't think would differ with you is I don't think it's just economic. I think that Donald it's just economic. I think that Donald it's just economic. I think that Donald Trump it he feels like, you know, Trump it he feels like, you know, Trump it he feels like, you know, Rubio's got this whole bankshot strategy Rubio's got this whole bankshot strategy Rubio's got this whole bankshot strategy that he loves, which is Venezuela, and that he loves, which is Venezuela, and that he loves, which is Venezuela, and then you get a regime change in Cuba. I then you get a regime change in Cuba. I then you get a regime change in Cuba. I think Donald Trump saw that like, hey, think Donald Trump saw that like, hey, think Donald Trump saw that like, hey, if he was the guy who like liberated or if he was the guy who like liberated or if he was the guy who like liberated or and maybe that meant business for and maybe that meant business for and maybe that meant business for America also, you know, but if he this America also, you know, but if he this America also, you know, but if he this was a Mount Rushmore type accomplishment was a Mount Rushmore type accomplishment was a Mount Rushmore type accomplishment to be like, I freed Venezuela, Cuba, and to be like, I freed Venezuela, Cuba, and to be like, I freed Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran. These were all the places that Iran. These were all the places that Iran. These were all the places that were given America problems all these were given America problems all these were given America problems all these years. None of these presidents could years. None of these presidents could years. None of these presidents could figure it out, but I came in here figure it out, but I came in here figure it out, but I came in here because I was so smart and figured it because I was so smart and figured it because I was so smart and figured it all out. So, I do think there's there's, all out. So, I do think there's there's, all out. So, I do think there's there's, you know, that's a big part of of the you know, that's a big part of of the you know, that's a big part of of the motivation. I think it's pretty motivation. I think it's pretty motivation. I think it's pretty reasonable to conclude that Donald reasonable to conclude that Donald reasonable to conclude that Donald Trump's sense of himself is his main Trump's sense of himself is his main Trump's sense of himself is his main motivator in life always. Um, him motivator in life always. Um, him motivator in life always. Um, him winning and being tremendous is always winning and being tremendous is always winning and being tremendous is always the most important thing. And he makes the most important thing. And he makes the most important thing. And he makes that very clear at every turn that that very clear at every turn that that very clear at every turn that that's the the lesson you have to take that's the the lesson you have to take that's the the lesson you have to take away from this. So, I don't know that away from this. So, I don't know that away from this. So, I don't know that might that like that might be the case. might that like that might be the case. might that like that might be the case. However, what I worry about, and I However, what I worry about, and I However, what I worry about, and I wouldn't make a prediction here, but wouldn't make a prediction here, but wouldn't make a prediction here, but what I worry about is like whatever the what I worry about is like whatever the what I worry about is like whatever the next Iranian response is to this might next Iranian response is to this might next Iranian response is to this might put him in a situation where he feel, put him in a situation where he feel, put him in a situation where he feel, you know, like Donald Trump, I think, is you know, like Donald Trump, I think, is you know, like Donald Trump, I think, is very capable of uh feeling that he has very capable of uh feeling that he has very capable of uh feeling that he has to show everybody that he's got the to show everybody that he's got the to show everybody that he's got the biggest junk in the land. And if you if biggest junk in the land. And if you if biggest junk in the land. And if you if you slap him in the face, that's a you slap him in the face, that's a you slap him in the face, that's a dangerous game. And I will say again, dangerous game. And I will say again, dangerous game. And I will say again, this Donald Trump, I try not to take this Donald Trump, I try not to take this Donald Trump, I try not to take anything with you try to take everything anything with you try to take everything anything with you try to take everything with a grain of salt because he speaks with a grain of salt because he speaks with a grain of salt because he speaks in a different way than normal people in a different way than normal people in a different way than normal people do. But we've simply never had a sitting do. But we've simply never had a sitting do. But we've simply never had a sitting US commander-in-chief talking about US commander-in-chief talking about US commander-in-chief talking about doing to a country what he's talking doing to a country what he's talking doing to a country what he's talking about doing to them right now. Even in about doing to them right now. Even in about doing to them right now. Even in World War II, the the they may have done World War II, the the they may have done World War II, the the they may have done it, but they didn't like have this type it, but they didn't like have this type it, but they didn't like have this type of bravado where they were saying and of bravado where they were saying and of bravado where they were saying and even, you know, what what we saw Tucker even, you know, what what we saw Tucker even, you know, what what we saw Tucker Carlson flip out on Trump for last Carlson flip out on Trump for last Carlson flip out on Trump for last night, which I think was totally uh he night, which I think was totally uh he night, which I think was totally uh he was totally right to do, but it's like, was totally right to do, but it's like, was totally right to do, but it's like, dude, the like mocking Allah on Easter dude, the like mocking Allah on Easter dude, the like mocking Allah on Easter as you announce that you're sending like as you announce that you're sending like as you announce that you're sending like as you announce like total war against a as you announce like total war against a as you announce like total war against a civilian population. Like geez, man. civilian population. Like geez, man. civilian population. Like geez, man. What are you trying? You're just you're What are you trying? You're just you're What are you trying? You're just you're just really kicking this hornets nests just really kicking this hornets nests just really kicking this hornets nests and then talking to the hornets and then talking to the hornets and then talking to the hornets hornets while you do it. It's seems like hornets while you do it. It's seems like hornets while you do it. It's seems like a dangerous game to me. Yeah, that that a dangerous game to me. Yeah, that that a dangerous game to me. Yeah, that that is the perfect conclusion. Dave, always is the perfect conclusion. Dave, always is the perfect conclusion. Dave, always really enjoy talking to you. Really really enjoy talking to you. Really really enjoy talking to you. 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It's the American empire would collapse. It's the American empire would collapse. It's very risky to use military force to very risky to use military force to very risky to use military force to resolve an economic issue. It isn't resolve an economic issue. It isn't resolve an economic issue. It isn't enough.