Trump Kills Housing Bill To Stop "Commies" & The Supreme Court's 4 MASSIVE Judgments

Good morning everybody. Welcome to Good morning everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Tom Bilyeu show another episode of the Tom Bilyeu show another episode of the Tom Bilyeu show live. I am so glad you guys are joining live. I am so glad you guys are joining live. I am so glad you guys are joining us. Uh, this is going to be a wild one us. Uh, this is going to be a wild one us. Uh, this is going to be a wild one as you would expect in the world the way as you would expect in the world the way as you would expect in the world the way that it is. that it is. that it is. We're all trying to make things more We're all trying to make things more We're all trying to make things more affordable and yet Trump refuses to sign affordable and yet Trump refuses to sign affordable and yet Trump refuses to sign the wildly bipartisan affordable housing the wildly bipartisan affordable housing the wildly bipartisan affordable housing bill as a way to get the Save America bill as a way to get the Save America bill as a way to get the Save America Act passed. Act passed. Act passed. Drew and I are definitely going to be Drew and I are definitely going to be Drew and I are definitely going to be fighting about that. It'll be an fighting about that. It'll be an fighting about that. It'll be an interesting time. The Supreme Court interesting time. The Supreme Court interesting time. 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A Singapore ship was struck by what's Singapore ship was struck by what's Singapore ship was struck by what's rumored to be a drone while attempting rumored to be a drone while attempting rumored to be a drone while attempting to transit the Strait of Hormuz and that to transit the Strait of Hormuz and that to transit the Strait of Hormuz and that is not closed the strait, but it is not closed the strait, but it is not closed the strait, but it certainly diminished traffic greatly. certainly diminished traffic greatly. certainly diminished traffic greatly. Thomas Massie calls out Trump for Thomas Massie calls out Trump for Thomas Massie calls out Trump for communism communism communism and I'm going to say he's got a point. I and I'm going to say he's got a point. I and I'm going to say he's got a point. 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Boys and girls, the biggest housing affordability in decades, bill housing affordability in decades, bill housing affordability in decades, bill that is, that is, that is, actually cleared Congress and not just actually cleared Congress and not just actually cleared Congress and not just cleared Congress, but it has massive cleared Congress, but it has massive cleared Congress, but it has massive bipartisan support. That is going to be bipartisan support. That is going to be bipartisan support. That is going to be a very important part of this story. a very important part of this story. a very important part of this story. This is beloved by people on both sides This is beloved by people on both sides This is beloved by people on both sides of the aisle. These are warring of the aisle. These are warring of the aisle. These are warring factions. That is the right way to think factions. That is the right way to think factions. That is the right way to think about what Congress and quite frankly about what Congress and quite frankly about what Congress and quite frankly the Senate look like and everybody, not the Senate look like and everybody, not the Senate look like and everybody, not everybody, but the vast majority of everybody, but the vast majority of everybody, but the vast majority of people on both sides of the aisle are people on both sides of the aisle are people on both sides of the aisle are supporting this thing supporting this thing supporting this thing and Trump is refusing to sign it. and Trump is refusing to sign it. and Trump is refusing to sign it. Now, before I tell you why he's refusing Now, before I tell you why he's refusing Now, before I tell you why he's refusing to sign it, I want you to understand to sign it, I want you to understand to sign it, I want you to understand what it actually is. So, first of all, what it actually is. So, first of all, what it actually is. So, first of all, the private equity cap is like the big the private equity cap is like the big the private equity cap is like the big part of this. So, the bill bars large part of this. So, the bill bars large part of this. So, the bill bars large institutional investors from owning more institutional investors from owning more institutional investors from owning more than 350 single-family homes. Now, that than 350 single-family homes. Now, that than 350 single-family homes. Now, that might still seem a little bit traumatic, might still seem a little bit traumatic, might still seem a little bit traumatic, uh but uh but uh but at least it's the first federal limit. at least it's the first federal limit. at least it's the first federal limit. So, previously, the PE firms could just So, previously, the PE firms could just So, previously, the PE firms could just go crazy. They could gobble everything go crazy. They could gobble everything go crazy. They could gobble everything up, make things far less affordable. up, make things far less affordable. up, make things far less affordable. Now, the reality is that they don't Now, the reality is that they don't Now, the reality is that they don't actually own a lot of American actually own a lot of American actually own a lot of American single-family homes like something like single-family homes like something like single-family homes like something like 0.34% 0.34% 0.34% but they're purchased in really but they're purchased in really but they're purchased in really strategic areas and therefore they can strategic areas and therefore they can strategic areas and therefore they can in a given place make that make the in a given place make that make the in a given place make that make the prices there go up. prices there go up. prices there go up. Also, I just think it's a terrible Also, I just think it's a terrible Also, I just think it's a terrible precedent in a time where we are precedent in a time where we are precedent in a time where we are struggling so desperately with struggling so desperately with struggling so desperately with affordability when it comes to homes. affordability when it comes to homes. affordability when it comes to homes. Now, the thing that I love about what's Now, the thing that I love about what's Now, the thing that I love about what's happening here is that there's actually happening here is that there's actually happening here is that there's actually a lot of incentives to get people a lot of incentives to get people a lot of incentives to get people buying. And so, you can get carve-outs buying. And so, you can get carve-outs buying. And so, you can get carve-outs for new builds. So, if you're doing a for new builds. So, if you're doing a for new builds. So, if you're doing a new build, which is one of the things I new build, which is one of the things I new build, which is one of the things I think the bill is going to be most think the bill is going to be most think the bill is going to be most effective at spurring, effective at spurring, effective at spurring, um is okay, if I'm a PE guy and I want um is okay, if I'm a PE guy and I want um is okay, if I'm a PE guy and I want to put my money to work in real estate to put my money to work in real estate to put my money to work in real estate and I can't do it with homes that and I can't do it with homes that and I can't do it with homes that already exist, cool. Then, if I want to already exist, cool. Then, if I want to already exist, cool. Then, if I want to gobble up more, I'm going to have to gobble up more, I'm going to have to gobble up more, I'm going to have to build more. Now, still may not be ideal, build more. Now, still may not be ideal, build more. Now, still may not be ideal, but boy oh boy, is this a step in the but boy oh boy, is this a step in the but boy oh boy, is this a step in the right direction, which is precisely why right direction, which is precisely why right direction, which is precisely why you're getting this bipartisan support. you're getting this bipartisan support. you're getting this bipartisan support. So, if you can trigger private equity's So, if you can trigger private equity's So, if you can trigger private equity's greed, and I know everybody hates that greed, and I know everybody hates that greed, and I know everybody hates that this is how the human animal actually this is how the human animal actually this is how the human animal actually works, and I know everybody is spiraling works, and I know everybody is spiraling works, and I know everybody is spiraling right now thinking that right now thinking that right now thinking that we've somehow got to legislate our way we've somehow got to legislate our way we've somehow got to legislate our way around greed. It won't work. What you around greed. It won't work. What you around greed. It won't work. What you end up with is resentment versus greed. end up with is resentment versus greed. end up with is resentment versus greed. This is a terrible battle to play out. This is a terrible battle to play out. This is a terrible battle to play out. We're going to talk more about that We're going to talk more about that We're going to talk more about that later today. We've got something special later today. We've got something special later today. We've got something special for you guys at the end of the show for for you guys at the end of the show for for you guys at the end of the show for people that want to stay late with us people that want to stay late with us people that want to stay late with us today. We're actually going to uh bleed today. We're actually going to uh bleed today. We're actually going to uh bleed into a third hour. I'm going to be doing into a third hour. I'm going to be doing into a third hour. I'm going to be doing a full-blown reacts to the DSA sweep, uh a full-blown reacts to the DSA sweep, uh a full-blown reacts to the DSA sweep, uh Chevalier, who I think is really Chevalier, who I think is really Chevalier, who I think is really representative of that, but that stick representative of that, but that stick representative of that, but that stick with us in the uh in the extra hours, if with us in the uh in the extra hours, if with us in the uh in the extra hours, if you will, uh if you want to be a part of you will, uh if you want to be a part of you will, uh if you want to be a part of that. But that. But that. But if you really want to make things more if you really want to make things more if you really want to make things more affordable, you've got to build more. affordable, you've got to build more. affordable, you've got to build more. And so, anything that's focused on And so, anything that's focused on And so, anything that's focused on putting regulation in place that's going putting regulation in place that's going putting regulation in place that's going to inspire people to build, I'm here for to inspire people to build, I'm here for to inspire people to build, I'm here for it. Now, is it triggering a um desire to it. Now, is it triggering a um desire to it. Now, is it triggering a um desire to be greedy and go in and make money? Yes. be greedy and go in and make money? Yes. be greedy and go in and make money? Yes. Is that how humans work? Yes. So, is Is that how humans work? Yes. So, is Is that how humans work? Yes. So, is that how we drive costs down? Yes. Is that how we drive costs down? Yes. Is that how we drive costs down? Yes. Is that how we innovate? Yes. Is that how that how we innovate? Yes. Is that how that how we innovate? Yes. Is that how we actually solve the affordability we actually solve the affordability we actually solve the affordability problem? Yes. So, getting problem? Yes. So, getting problem? Yes. So, getting more people building new things has to more people building new things has to more people building new things has to be the end goal and that's what this be the end goal and that's what this be the end goal and that's what this bill's about. Okay, so there it is, it's bill's about. Okay, so there it is, it's bill's about. Okay, so there it is, it's sitting out there. This is a thing. It's sitting out there. This is a thing. It's sitting out there. This is a thing. It's certainly not perfect, but there's a certainly not perfect, but there's a certainly not perfect, but there's a reason that it has this kind of reason that it has this kind of reason that it has this kind of unprecedented, at least in today's unprecedented, at least in today's unprecedented, at least in today's environment, bipartisan support is environment, bipartisan support is environment, bipartisan support is precisely because people can actually precisely because people can actually precisely because people can actually see from a cause and effect perspective see from a cause and effect perspective see from a cause and effect perspective how this is actually going to be good how this is actually going to be good how this is actually going to be good for people who are struggling with for people who are struggling with for people who are struggling with affordable housing. affordable housing. affordable housing. With that looming in the air, With that looming in the air, With that looming in the air, you've got Trump saying, "I'm not going you've got Trump saying, "I'm not going you've got Trump saying, "I'm not going to sign this." And so, the question to sign this." And so, the question to sign this." And so, the question becomes, why on Earth is he not going to becomes, why on Earth is he not going to becomes, why on Earth is he not going to sign this? This is where I hope we can sign this? This is where I hope we can sign this? This is where I hope we can all share in an absolute hatred for all share in an absolute hatred for all share in an absolute hatred for politics. But, step down from the politics. But, step down from the politics. But, step down from the emotional reasoning of I just hate emotional reasoning of I just hate emotional reasoning of I just hate politics. This is something I find politics. This is something I find politics. This is something I find people have a hard time tracking with people have a hard time tracking with people have a hard time tracking with me. I will often say things in a very me. I will often say things in a very me. I will often say things in a very passionate way, a very big way, a very passionate way, a very big way, a very passionate way, a very big way, a very animated way, a very emotional way, but animated way, a very emotional way, but animated way, a very emotional way, but the actual words coming out of my mouth the actual words coming out of my mouth the actual words coming out of my mouth are chains of logic. And so, I want are chains of logic. And so, I want are chains of logic. And so, I want people to separate emotional reasoning people to separate emotional reasoning people to separate emotional reasoning from an emotional presentation of from an emotional presentation of from an emotional presentation of logical steps that you can follow from logical steps that you can follow from logical steps that you can follow from cause and effect. cause and effect. cause and effect. Okay. So, when you look at the way the Okay. So, when you look at the way the Okay. So, when you look at the way the politics actually work, part of what politics actually work, part of what politics actually work, part of what makes this so grotesque is it is a game makes this so grotesque is it is a game makes this so grotesque is it is a game of convincing people to take the of convincing people to take the of convincing people to take the electoral electoral electoral action that they want them to take. So, action that they want them to take. So, action that they want them to take. So, they've got to convince voters to they've got to convince voters to they've got to convince voters to actually vote for them. And then, within actually vote for them. And then, within actually vote for them. And then, within the structure of the actual rules of the the structure of the actual rules of the the structure of the actual rules of the way that Congress and the Senate work, way that Congress and the Senate work, way that Congress and the Senate work, and all of the procedural things, that and all of the procedural things, that and all of the procedural things, that there are ways that they all go about there are ways that they all go about there are ways that they all go about bullying each other. And so, all of that bullying each other. And so, all of that bullying each other. And so, all of that is hideous, all of that is grotesque. I is hideous, all of that is grotesque. I is hideous, all of that is grotesque. I don't know a way around it. This is from don't know a way around it. This is from don't know a way around it. This is from time immemorial. This is just how this time immemorial. This is just how this time immemorial. This is just how this stuff works. So, we're now in the belly stuff works. So, we're now in the belly stuff works. So, we're now in the belly of the beast. This is exactly how the of the beast. This is exactly how the of the beast. This is exactly how the sausage is made. Trump is saying, "I sausage is made. Trump is saying, "I sausage is made. Trump is saying, "I need to get the Save America Act need to get the Save America Act need to get the Save America Act passed." Now, I think what you're going passed." Now, I think what you're going passed." Now, I think what you're going to see, at least between Drew and I, I to see, at least between Drew and I, I to see, at least between Drew and I, I don't know actually, we'll see, but um I don't know actually, we'll see, but um I don't know actually, we'll see, but um I think we see that part of it very think we see that part of it very think we see that part of it very differently. So, I'm like, the differently. So, I'm like, the differently. So, I'm like, the affordability housing bill needs to get affordability housing bill needs to get affordability housing bill needs to get passed. It must get passed. I think it passed. It must get passed. I think it passed. It must get passed. I think it will get passed because there is so much will get passed because there is so much will get passed because there is so much bipartisan support. bipartisan support. bipartisan support. But, in a very temporary fashion, I But, in a very temporary fashion, I But, in a very temporary fashion, I think Trump is using it to get the Save think Trump is using it to get the Save think Trump is using it to get the Save America Act passed. So, now you can America Act passed. So, now you can America Act passed. So, now you can obviously begin to tease all these obviously begin to tease all these obviously begin to tease all these different things out. Should um different things out. Should um different things out. Should um legislation work this way? legislation work this way? legislation work this way? Okay, I would say no, but the reality is Okay, I would say no, but the reality is Okay, I would say no, but the reality is it just interfaces with the human mind it just interfaces with the human mind it just interfaces with the human mind and this is how you leverage to get and this is how you leverage to get and this is how you leverage to get things that you want done. This is done things that you want done. This is done things that you want done. This is done on both sides of the aisle, again, for on both sides of the aisle, again, for on both sides of the aisle, again, for all of human history, at least as long all of human history, at least as long all of human history, at least as long as this kind of government has existed. as this kind of government has existed. as this kind of government has existed. So, I don't think we're going to back So, I don't think we're going to back So, I don't think we're going to back our way out of that one with any our way out of that one with any our way out of that one with any realistic thing. realistic thing. realistic thing. So, now it becomes, okay, should Save So, now it becomes, okay, should Save So, now it becomes, okay, should Save America, the act as it stands, be a America, the act as it stands, be a America, the act as it stands, be a thing that we're fighting for? That's a thing that we're fighting for? That's a thing that we're fighting for? That's a very different question, and we will very different question, and we will very different question, and we will certainly talk about that as well. And certainly talk about that as well. And certainly talk about that as well. And then, what should we uh how should we then, what should we uh how should we then, what should we uh how should we react when a politician is holding react when a politician is holding react when a politician is holding something that has this kind of popular something that has this kind of popular something that has this kind of popular support, when they're holding it support, when they're holding it support, when they're holding it hostage, how should we react? And I hostage, how should we react? And I hostage, how should we react? And I think most people are going to say, think most people are going to say, think most people are going to say, "Well, if I want that thing to get "Well, if I want that thing to get "Well, if I want that thing to get passed, I'm going to be really annoyed passed, I'm going to be really annoyed passed, I'm going to be really annoyed about it. If I don't want it passed, about it. If I don't want it passed, about it. If I don't want it passed, then I'm going to care a lot less then I'm going to care a lot less then I'm going to care a lot less because, yeah, [ __ ] it." So, right now, because, yeah, [ __ ] it." So, right now, because, yeah, [ __ ] it." So, right now, to at least give the cause and effect, to at least give the cause and effect, to at least give the cause and effect, know what goal you have. So, rather than know what goal you have. So, rather than know what goal you have. So, rather than walking through what my take is, know walking through what my take is, know walking through what my take is, know what goal you have, and then figure out what goal you have, and then figure out what goal you have, and then figure out which path is going to get you there. which path is going to get you there. which path is going to get you there. So, if you're looking at the end state So, if you're looking at the end state So, if you're looking at the end state of immigration, and you're saying we of immigration, and you're saying we of immigration, and you're saying we absolutely must put constraints on um absolutely must put constraints on um absolutely must put constraints on um immigration because immigration because immigration because you get this you get this you get this tearing apart of the social fabric of tearing apart of the social fabric of tearing apart of the social fabric of your country because people are not your country because people are not your country because people are not assimilating and you have a side that is assimilating and you have a side that is assimilating and you have a side that is running an immigration strategy to get running an immigration strategy to get running an immigration strategy to get what and this is my presentation to get what and this is my presentation to get what and this is my presentation to get illegal voters in the country to illegal voters in the country to illegal voters in the country to increase your body count which helps you increase your body count which helps you increase your body count which helps you on the census which then drives your on the census which then drives your on the census which then drives your power in Congress but also they're power in Congress but also they're power in Congress but also they're clearly certainly in California pushing clearly certainly in California pushing clearly certainly in California pushing for um expansion of voter rights to for um expansion of voter rights to for um expansion of voter rights to extend into people that are um currently extend into people that are um currently extend into people that are um currently have a legal status and are not able to have a legal status and are not able to have a legal status and are not able to vote. Now, I think that's also being run vote. Now, I think that's also being run vote. Now, I think that's also being run at a federal level. So, that's why I'm at a federal level. So, that's why I'm at a federal level. So, that's why I'm gung-ho to see gung-ho to see gung-ho to see Save America get passed. I want to see Save America get passed. I want to see Save America get passed. I want to see people have to prove that they're a people have to prove that they're a people have to prove that they're a citizen before they vote. citizen before they vote. citizen before they vote. Okay, but you have to fill in what's Okay, but you have to fill in what's Okay, but you have to fill in what's your end goal there, right? So, that's your end goal there, right? So, that's your end goal there, right? So, that's mine but what's yours? Now, what are the mine but what's yours? Now, what are the mine but what's yours? Now, what are the actions that need to be taken in order actions that need to be taken in order actions that need to be taken in order to get across the finish line there? And to get across the finish line there? And to get across the finish line there? And so, that's where all of this is now so, that's where all of this is now so, that's where all of this is now going to play out within the body going to play out within the body going to play out within the body politic where they're going to try to politic where they're going to try to politic where they're going to try to take that thing, hey, I know everybody take that thing, hey, I know everybody take that thing, hey, I know everybody wants this. Cool, you want this? I'll wants this. Cool, you want this? I'll wants this. Cool, you want this? I'll give it to you but you've got to give me give it to you but you've got to give me give it to you but you've got to give me this thing. And so, that is politics. this thing. And so, that is politics. this thing. And so, that is politics. Now, I don't think there's any way that Now, I don't think there's any way that Now, I don't think there's any way that Trump is going to be able to stop this Trump is going to be able to stop this Trump is going to be able to stop this from going through. I think that it from going through. I think that it from going through. I think that it would be too politically damaging but I would be too politically damaging but I would be too politically damaging but I think that he can leverage it to at a think that he can leverage it to at a think that he can leverage it to at a minimum force the Save Act to a vote. minimum force the Save Act to a vote. minimum force the Save Act to a vote. And so, that is um And so, that is um And so, that is um the way that everybody has to think the way that everybody has to think the way that everybody has to think about this. Right now, it isn't that about this. Right now, it isn't that about this. Right now, it isn't that Trump is saying that he doesn't want Trump is saying that he doesn't want Trump is saying that he doesn't want that bill to get passed. He's saying I that bill to get passed. He's saying I that bill to get passed. He's saying I see how popular this is and I'm going to see how popular this is and I'm going to see how popular this is and I'm going to use it as leverage. And so, that's the use it as leverage. And so, that's the use it as leverage. And so, that's the moment that we're stuck in. moment that we're stuck in. moment that we're stuck in. All right. All right. All right. Drew. >> I feel like you've been teasing me up >> I feel like you've been teasing me up like me and Drew are going to clash like me and Drew are going to clash like me and Drew are going to clash about this. about this. about this. >> it's interesting. I When when you and I >> it's interesting. I When when you and I >> it's interesting. I When when you and I talked about it at the surface level, I talked about it at the surface level, I talked about it at the surface level, I thought that um thought that um thought that um you you you This is where we have to look at what of This is where we have to look at what of This is where we have to look at what of the three things are we talking about. the three things are we talking about. the three things are we talking about. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So, if anybody said I don't like that >> So, if anybody said I don't like that >> So, if anybody said I don't like that this is being used as leverage, I'm this is being used as leverage, I'm this is being used as leverage, I'm going to be Yeah, me either. So, that going to be Yeah, me either. So, that going to be Yeah, me either. So, that one's easy. I wish that we didn't live one's easy. I wish that we didn't live one's easy. I wish that we didn't live in that political reality. I wish that in that political reality. I wish that in that political reality. I wish that humans weren't like that. I find humans weren't like that. I find humans weren't like that. I find politics disgusting. This is one of the politics disgusting. This is one of the politics disgusting. This is one of the many, many reasons I will never be a many, many reasons I will never be a many, many reasons I will never be a politician. There's nothing about this politician. There's nothing about this politician. There's nothing about this that I like. that I like. that I like. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh it's all posing, posturing, bullying, >> Uh it's all posing, posturing, bullying, >> Uh it's all posing, posturing, bullying, all that [ __ ] I just despise it. So, all that [ __ ] I just despise it. So, all that [ __ ] I just despise it. So, that one's like an easy give. But, when that one's like an easy give. But, when that one's like an easy give. But, when you get to Okay, should we be trying to you get to Okay, should we be trying to you get to Okay, should we be trying to push forward the Save America Act, which push forward the Save America Act, which push forward the Save America Act, which is what this is about to me. This to me is what this is about to me. This to me is what this is about to me. This to me isn't about the housing affordability. isn't about the housing affordability. isn't about the housing affordability. The housing affordability, I think is a The housing affordability, I think is a The housing affordability, I think is a yes on virtually everybody, including yes on virtually everybody, including yes on virtually everybody, including Trump. So, it's like that is going to go Trump. So, it's like that is going to go Trump. So, it's like that is going to go through. It just becomes a question of through. It just becomes a question of through. It just becomes a question of do we use it in this moment? I've do we use it in this moment? I've do we use it in this moment? I've already addressed my thoughts on that. already addressed my thoughts on that. already addressed my thoughts on that. So, now we get to is Save America a So, now we get to is Save America a So, now we get to is Save America a thing that we actually want to see thing that we actually want to see thing that we actually want to see pushed through? pushed through? pushed through? Now, Now, Now, >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> I was going to say, can we throw this up >> I was going to say, can we throw this up >> I was going to say, can we throw this up on the screen? These are the on the screen? These are the on the screen? These are the >> three paths that can happen with the >> three paths that can happen with the >> three paths that can happen with the bill. So, Trump had the first option. He bill. So, Trump had the first option. He bill. So, Trump had the first option. He can sign the bill into law and make it can sign the bill into law and make it can sign the bill into law and make it law. The second thing, he could veto the law. The second thing, he could veto the law. The second thing, he could veto the bill back and send it back to Congress. bill back and send it back to Congress. bill back and send it back to Congress. He could do number three, take no He could do number three, take no He could do number three, take no action. This is the thing that people action. This is the thing that people action. This is the thing that people are getting wrong. While as he's taking are getting wrong. While as he's taking are getting wrong. While as he's taking no action, there's a 10-day clock. 10 no action, there's a 10-day clock. 10 no action, there's a 10-day clock. 10 days from now, if Congress is in days from now, if Congress is in days from now, if Congress is in session, the bill will become law session, the bill will become law session, the bill will become law without Trump's signature. But, if without Trump's signature. But, if without Trump's signature. But, if Congress is adjourned, I don't know, for Congress is adjourned, I don't know, for Congress is adjourned, I don't know, for maybe a holiday recess that's happening maybe a holiday recess that's happening maybe a holiday recess that's happening next week for somebody's 250th birthday, next week for somebody's 250th birthday, next week for somebody's 250th birthday, >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> then the bill will then be sent will be >> then the bill will then be sent will be >> then the bill will then be sent will be pocket vetoed and sent back to Congress pocket vetoed and sent back to Congress pocket vetoed and sent back to Congress and they have to start all over again. and they have to start all over again. and they have to start all over again. So, while yes, Trump can take use this So, while yes, Trump can take use this So, while yes, Trump can take use this housing bill to take hostage, I'm just housing bill to take hostage, I'm just housing bill to take hostage, I'm just going to point out that we all slapped going to point out that we all slapped going to point out that we all slapped our Democrats around and called them our Democrats around and called them our Democrats around and called them told them that they don't care about told them that they don't care about told them that they don't care about country or America when they were trying country or America when they were trying country or America when they were trying to stall um the budget bill because they to stall um the budget bill because they to stall um the budget bill because they wanted to defund ICE after ICE got the wanted to defund ICE after ICE got the wanted to defund ICE after ICE got the raise in in funding. So, it's one of raise in in funding. So, it's one of raise in in funding. So, it's one of those things where I'm going to be mad those things where I'm going to be mad those things where I'm going to be mad when you do the tactic and then I'm when you do the tactic and then I'm when you do the tactic and then I'm going to do the tactic and now going to do the tactic and now going to do the tactic and now everybody's mad at me. It's that's everybody's mad at me. It's that's everybody's mad at me. It's that's completely fine. If we're now we're completely fine. If we're now we're completely fine. If we're now we're realizing that we're going to take for realizing that we're going to take for realizing that we're going to take for tat. So, to your point, if we're going tat. So, to your point, if we're going tat. So, to your point, if we're going to talk about that, we both agree tit to talk about that, we both agree tit to talk about that, we both agree tit for tat is wack. That's a bad way to run for tat is wack. That's a bad way to run for tat is wack. That's a bad way to run the government. Cool, we can put that to the government. Cool, we can put that to the government. Cool, we can put that to the side. Save America Act. We talk the side. Save America Act. We talk the side. Save America Act. We talk about the Save America Act in nauseam to about the Save America Act in nauseam to about the Save America Act in nauseam to me. I think that this is something that me. I think that this is something that me. I think that this is something that we want to be correct, so we're finding we want to be correct, so we're finding we want to be correct, so we're finding evidence and things that we're putting evidence and things that we're putting evidence and things that we're putting in there to try to justify it. But there in there to try to justify it. But there in there to try to justify it. But there has been federal lawsuits. Dominion has been federal lawsuits. Dominion has been federal lawsuits. Dominion Voting has got paid out by two different Voting has got paid out by two different Voting has got paid out by two different people, Fox News and the MyPillow guy. people, Fox News and the MyPillow guy. people, Fox News and the MyPillow guy. Um Um Um >> No, they dropped the lawsuit against >> No, they dropped the lawsuit against >> No, they dropped the lawsuit against MyPillow. MyPillow. MyPillow. >> It was settled. >> It was settled. >> It was settled. It wasn't a drop, it was settled. It wasn't a drop, it was settled. It wasn't a drop, it was settled. >> Interesting. How much did they pay him? >> Interesting. How much did they pay him? >> Interesting. How much did they pay him? >> It's undisclosed amount. >> It's undisclosed amount. >> It's undisclosed amount. >> Ah. >> Ah. >> Ah. >> You love when it's undisclosed amount. >> You love when it's undisclosed amount. >> You love when it's undisclosed amount. And then MyPillow guy is now talking And then MyPillow guy is now talking And then MyPillow guy is now talking about I'm I'm running out of money going about I'm I'm running out of money going about I'm I'm running out of money going for bankruptcy. He was trying to clear for bankruptcy. He was trying to clear for bankruptcy. He was trying to clear out that pipeline cuz he's running for out that pipeline cuz he's running for out that pipeline cuz he's running for governor. So it's one of these things governor. So it's one of these things governor. So it's one of these things where when we're fighting it in the where when we're fighting it in the where when we're fighting it in the court of public opinion on X, everybody court of public opinion on X, everybody court of public opinion on X, everybody sees thousands of voter fraud sees thousands of voter fraud sees thousands of voter fraud everywhere. When it's time to get it to everywhere. When it's time to get it to everywhere. When it's time to get it to the court from the Georgia mail the court from the Georgia mail the court from the Georgia mail drop where Tulsi Gabbard drop where Tulsi Gabbard drop where Tulsi Gabbard Tulsi Gabbard was in the I was about to Tulsi Gabbard was in the I was about to Tulsi Gabbard was in the I was about to say DNI. Tulsi Gabbard, say DNI. Tulsi Gabbard, say DNI. Tulsi Gabbard, she was in the back of the SUV with all she was in the back of the SUV with all she was in the back of the SUV with all the boxes and they stole them at the the boxes and they stole them at the the boxes and they stole them at the middle of the night and the governor um middle of the night and the governor um middle of the night and the governor um the overseer of the voters in Gov in the overseer of the voters in Gov in the overseer of the voters in Gov in Georgia was all mad like, "Hey guys, I Georgia was all mad like, "Hey guys, I Georgia was all mad like, "Hey guys, I want my votes back." And they had them want my votes back." And they had them want my votes back." And they had them and it's been 6 months and nothing and it's been 6 months and nothing and it's been 6 months and nothing happened from that. So again, I want happened from that. So again, I want happened from that. So again, I want this to be a fair and safe election. I this to be a fair and safe election. I this to be a fair and safe election. I want everybody to have a good election. want everybody to have a good election. want everybody to have a good election. I think gerrymandering is a way bigger I think gerrymandering is a way bigger I think gerrymandering is a way bigger problem than a voter fraud cuz we're problem than a voter fraud cuz we're problem than a voter fraud cuz we're actually seeing the results of that. actually seeing the results of that. actually seeing the results of that. We're actually seeing people lose their We're actually seeing people lose their We're actually seeing people lose their seats. We're actually seeing people lose seats. We're actually seeing people lose seats. We're actually seeing people lose primaries. We're actually seeing the primaries. We're actually seeing the primaries. We're actually seeing the fabric of the Senate and the House being fabric of the Senate and the House being fabric of the Senate and the House being changed based off gerrymandering laws. changed based off gerrymandering laws. changed based off gerrymandering laws. Whereas with voter fraud, as much as we Whereas with voter fraud, as much as we Whereas with voter fraud, as much as we want this to be a thing, all it's been want this to be a thing, all it's been want this to be a thing, all it's been so far is vibes and emotion. so far is vibes and emotion. so far is vibes and emotion. >> Okay, so just to make sure that we're >> Okay, so just to make sure that we're >> Okay, so just to make sure that we're tying it back to the Save America Act. tying it back to the Save America Act. tying it back to the Save America Act. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Um are you saying, "Hey, one, I hate >> Um are you saying, "Hey, one, I hate >> Um are you saying, "Hey, one, I hate that we're using this political process, that we're using this political process, that we're using this political process, this gamesmanship of leveraging again this gamesmanship of leveraging again this gamesmanship of leveraging again something that basically everybody something that basically everybody something that basically everybody wants. We're holding that hostage. I wants. We're holding that hostage. I wants. We're holding that hostage. I hate that. And the very thing that hate that. And the very thing that hate that. And the very thing that they're holding a hostage for, I think they're holding a hostage for, I think they're holding a hostage for, I think is garbage anyway and we shouldn't be is garbage anyway and we shouldn't be is garbage anyway and we shouldn't be doing it. The thing that we think we're doing it. The thing that we think we're doing it. The thing that we think we're solving, the commie takeover, solving, the commie takeover, solving, the commie takeover, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> would be directly >> would be directly >> would be directly like extinguished if more people can like extinguished if more people can like extinguished if more people can afford housing. The reason there's so afford housing. The reason there's so afford housing. The reason there's so many socialists going on right now many socialists going on right now many socialists going on right now >> on cuz you're fractaling. So, we and >> on cuz you're fractaling. So, we and >> on cuz you're fractaling. So, we and >> That's a very valid point. We'll get to >> That's a very valid point. We'll get to >> That's a very valid point. We'll get to that. that. that. >> Copy. >> Copy. >> Copy. >> But I want to walk people through if >> But I want to walk people through if >> But I want to walk people through if anybody's trying to figure out how they anybody's trying to figure out how they anybody's trying to figure out how they think through this. This is and this is think through this. This is and this is think through this. This is and this is something I find that people do a lot is something I find that people do a lot is something I find that people do a lot is um they won't resolve one issue before um they won't resolve one issue before um they won't resolve one issue before they move on to the next. they move on to the next. they move on to the next. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, we we have like real agreement on >> So, we we have like real agreement on >> So, we we have like real agreement on the political process sucks, but we're the political process sucks, but we're the political process sucks, but we're we're trapped, and so here we are. Then we're trapped, and so here we are. Then we're trapped, and so here we are. Then we've got Save America Act, yes or no, we've got Save America Act, yes or no, we've got Save America Act, yes or no, because that to me, this whole thing is because that to me, this whole thing is because that to me, this whole thing is about Save America. about Save America. about Save America. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Now, you have another very valid point, >> Now, you have another very valid point, >> Now, you have another very valid point, which is gerrymandering is a bigger which is gerrymandering is a bigger which is gerrymandering is a bigger problem, but this battle isn't about problem, but this battle isn't about problem, but this battle isn't about gerrymandering. gerrymandering. gerrymandering. >> Even if you address specifically, Save >> Even if you address specifically, Save >> Even if you address specifically, Save America specifically. America specifically. America specifically. >> Even in the Save America Act, we have >> Even in the Save America Act, we have >> Even in the Save America Act, we have wins in men and women's sports, we have wins in men and women's sports, we have wins in men and women's sports, we have transgender mutilization. So, if a very transgender mutilization. So, if a very transgender mutilization. So, if a very smart Democratic person can take that smart Democratic person can take that smart Democratic person can take that and say, is transgender mutil- and say, is transgender mutil- and say, is transgender mutil- mutilization, child surgeries more mutilization, child surgeries more mutilization, child surgeries more important and a bigger issue than the important and a bigger issue than the important and a bigger issue than the housing uh unaffordability crisis? housing uh unaffordability crisis? housing uh unaffordability crisis? I can name 10, five people of major I can name 10, five people of major I can name 10, five people of major cases that are children who are being um cases that are children who are being um cases that are children who are being um affected by this. I can name 5 million affected by this. I can name 5 million affected by this. I can name 5 million people who can't afford housing. So, people who can't afford housing. So, people who can't afford housing. So, again, Save America, if we want to just again, Save America, if we want to just again, Save America, if we want to just say the act versus the housing say the act versus the housing say the act versus the housing affordability, I think the housing affordability, I think the housing affordability, I think the housing affordability is more important than the affordability is more important than the affordability is more important than the Save America Act, yes. I think if we go Save America Act, yes. I think if we go Save America Act, yes. I think if we go through the Save America Act itself, I through the Save America Act itself, I through the Save America Act itself, I like that you need to be a citizen to like that you need to be a citizen to like that you need to be a citizen to vote, absolutely. And I'm just I have vote, absolutely. And I'm just I have vote, absolutely. And I'm just I have morals and I have principles that I am morals and I have principles that I am morals and I have principles that I am not illegal, I vote. I don't know any not illegal, I vote. I don't know any not illegal, I vote. I don't know any illegals that vote. If I see an illegal illegals that vote. If I see an illegal illegals that vote. If I see an illegal voting, I would say something. I don't voting, I would say something. I don't voting, I would say something. I don't see it, I don't experience it, I don't see it, I don't experience it, I don't see it, I don't experience it, I don't know. know. know. But to just act like the Save America But to just act like the Save America But to just act like the Save America Act is only about election when it's Act is only about election when it's Act is only about election when it's already a pork bill with other things already a pork bill with other things already a pork bill with other things that aren't necessarily important, I that aren't necessarily important, I that aren't necessarily important, I think Trump is using this as a talking think Trump is using this as a talking think Trump is using this as a talking point, and I think the Save America Act point, and I think the Save America Act point, and I think the Save America Act is similar to the Iran War. He's about is similar to the Iran War. He's about is similar to the Iran War. He's about to start a He's creating a problem, and to start a He's creating a problem, and to start a He's creating a problem, and then he's going to try to fix a problem then he's going to try to fix a problem then he's going to try to fix a problem that wasn't really a problem in the that wasn't really a problem in the that wasn't really a problem in the first place. first place. first place. >> Okay, so just to summarize, obviously a >> Okay, so just to summarize, obviously a >> Okay, so just to summarize, obviously a lot of very valid points in terms of the lot of very valid points in terms of the lot of very valid points in terms of the way that people shove things into random way that people shove things into random way that people shove things into random ass bills, that I'll put back in the ass bills, that I'll put back in the ass bills, that I'll put back in the bucket of the political process itself bucket of the political process itself bucket of the political process itself is deeply flawed. I don't see a way to is deeply flawed. I don't see a way to is deeply flawed. I don't see a way to fix it personally, and maybe we can have fix it personally, and maybe we can have fix it personally, and maybe we can have that debate another day. Uh but setting that debate another day. Uh but setting that debate another day. Uh but setting that part aside, now looking at just that part aside, now looking at just that part aside, now looking at just Save America, you're saying I have a Save America, you're saying I have a Save America, you're saying I have a priority, and my priority goes like priority, and my priority goes like priority, and my priority goes like this. Uh housing affordability is so this. Uh housing affordability is so this. Uh housing affordability is so much more important than the Save much more important than the Save much more important than the Save America Act. I literally don't give a America Act. I literally don't give a America Act. I literally don't give a [ __ ] I'm not even going to think about [ __ ] I'm not even going to think about [ __ ] I'm not even going to think about Save America. I don't see this as a Save America. I don't see this as a Save America. I don't see this as a problem, so [ __ ] it. I'm not going to problem, so [ __ ] it. I'm not going to problem, so [ __ ] it. I'm not going to think through it. It's just not a big think through it. It's just not a big think through it. It's just not a big enough problem. So, [ __ ] you, Trump. enough problem. So, [ __ ] you, Trump. enough problem. So, [ __ ] you, Trump. Put this thing through. Put this thing through. Put this thing through. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, uh that's very clear. My take >> Okay. So, uh that's very clear. My take >> Okay. So, uh that's very clear. My take on this is very different. So, um on this is very different. So, um on this is very different. So, um housing affordability is critical. It's housing affordability is critical. It's housing affordability is critical. It's one of the single most important one of the single most important one of the single most important problems that we have to solve as a problems that we have to solve as a problems that we have to solve as a nation, but one of the things that I nation, but one of the things that I nation, but one of the things that I found certainly in the realm of business found certainly in the realm of business found certainly in the realm of business is if you get the prioritization wrong, is if you get the prioritization wrong, is if you get the prioritization wrong, then you're really in trouble. And one then you're really in trouble. And one then you're really in trouble. And one of the things every entrepreneur has to of the things every entrepreneur has to of the things every entrepreneur has to get good at, and I think of legislators get good at, and I think of legislators get good at, and I think of legislators largely as a board of a company, and largely as a board of a company, and largely as a board of a company, and that company is United States of that company is United States of that company is United States of America, and basically the policy that America, and basically the policy that America, and basically the policy that they're trying to put in place, they've they're trying to put in place, they've they're trying to put in place, they've got the prioritization wrong. So, if you got the prioritization wrong. So, if you got the prioritization wrong. So, if you essentially keep marching towards either essentially keep marching towards either essentially keep marching towards either something that is directly something that is directly something that is directly um socialist, which is what I believe um socialist, which is what I believe um socialist, which is what I believe will happen if you don't make sure that will happen if you don't make sure that will happen if you don't make sure that the only people that are voting are the only people that are voting are the only people that are voting are citizens of the country citizens of the country citizens of the country for incentive structure reasons that we for incentive structure reasons that we for incentive structure reasons that we can talk about, but I'll say let's set can talk about, but I'll say let's set can talk about, but I'll say let's set aside for a second. Um if you keep going aside for a second. Um if you keep going aside for a second. Um if you keep going down that road, I think that is far more down that road, I think that is far more down that road, I think that is far more foundational and will have much bigger foundational and will have much bigger foundational and will have much bigger impacts even on housing affordability. impacts even on housing affordability. impacts even on housing affordability. So, you can just look at what's So, you can just look at what's So, you can just look at what's happening in New York. So, for me, happening in New York. So, for me, happening in New York. So, for me, without trying to convince you guys to without trying to convince you guys to without trying to convince you guys to adopt my way of thinking, I'm trying to adopt my way of thinking, I'm trying to adopt my way of thinking, I'm trying to show you how I think through the show you how I think through the show you how I think through the problem. Subtle difference, but it's problem. Subtle difference, but it's problem. Subtle difference, but it's very meaningful. So, um when I think very meaningful. So, um when I think very meaningful. So, um when I think about this, I'm trying to think, okay, about this, I'm trying to think, okay, about this, I'm trying to think, okay, what's the right priority for these to what's the right priority for these to what's the right priority for these to fall into? Which one is more fall into? Which one is more fall into? Which one is more foundational? Who votes in your foundational? Who votes in your foundational? Who votes in your elections is more foundational than elections is more foundational than elections is more foundational than housing. Housing is actually going to be housing. Housing is actually going to be housing. Housing is actually going to be downstream of that. So, the people that downstream of that. So, the people that downstream of that. So, the people that are voting are going to set the are voting are going to set the are voting are going to set the policies, the policies are going to set policies, the policies are going to set policies, the policies are going to set whether or not housing ends up becoming whether or not housing ends up becoming whether or not housing ends up becoming affordable or not. And so, that for me affordable or not. And so, that for me affordable or not. And so, that for me is why you've got to solve that problem is why you've got to solve that problem is why you've got to solve that problem first. Now, yep. first. Now, yep. first. Now, yep. >> People voting in our elections are a >> People voting in our elections are a >> People voting in our elections are a bigger problem than people affording bigger problem than people affording bigger problem than people affording houses. houses. houses. Accurate representation of what you just Accurate representation of what you just Accurate representation of what you just said? said? said? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Pe- pe- >> Pe- pe- >> Pe- pe- uh uh uh verifying that citizens are the only verifying that citizens are the only verifying that citizens are the only people voting in your elections are more people voting in your elections are more people voting in your elections are more important than housing affordability. important than housing affordability. important than housing affordability. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> I thought this is what you just said. >> I thought this is what you just said. >> I thought this is what you just said. I'm going to say I'm going to say I'm going to say >> No. So, I'll I'll say it um with no >> No. So, I'll I'll say it um with no >> No. So, I'll I'll say it um with no words around it. words around it. words around it. Starting now. Starting now. Starting now. Who votes in your elections controls Who votes in your elections controls Who votes in your elections controls housing affordability. Therefore, you housing affordability. Therefore, you housing affordability. Therefore, you must address voting first, or it will be must address voting first, or it will be must address voting first, or it will be fruitless what you decide on fruitless what you decide on fruitless what you decide on affordability today, cuz it will get affordability today, cuz it will get affordability today, cuz it will get wiped out. wiped out. wiped out. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um people voting in your election. Um people voting in your election. Um people voting in your election. Let's double click onto that, cuz I can Let's double click onto that, cuz I can Let's double click onto that, cuz I can I have data that shows who needs a I have data that shows who needs a I have data that shows who needs a house. I have data that how this housing house. I have data that how this housing house. I have data that how this housing bill can help people get a house. I have bill can help people get a house. I have bill can help people get a house. I have data even that when more people own data even that when more people own data even that when more people own houses, they become less socialist. houses, they become less socialist. houses, they become less socialist. But I don't have data on illegals voting But I don't have data on illegals voting But I don't have data on illegals voting in the election. So, how do we do that in the election. So, how do we do that in the election. So, how do we do that part? part? part? >> I do have some data, and this isn't >> I do have some data, and this isn't >> I do have some data, and this isn't necessarily on illegals, but this is on necessarily on illegals, but this is on necessarily on illegals, but this is on people who are typically lumped into the people who are typically lumped into the people who are typically lumped into the illegals group voting in favor of Trump, illegals group voting in favor of Trump, illegals group voting in favor of Trump, primarily. I do have those if y'all want primarily. I do have those if y'all want primarily. I do have those if y'all want those numbers. those numbers. those numbers. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> So, um this is specifically border >> So, um this is specifically border >> So, um this is specifically border towns. So, Starr County, Maverick towns. So, Starr County, Maverick towns. So, Starr County, Maverick County, Webb County, and Zapata County, County, Webb County, and Zapata County, County, Webb County, and Zapata County, which all covers Rio Grande City, Eagle which all covers Rio Grande City, Eagle which all covers Rio Grande City, Eagle Pass, Laredo, and Zapata, all ranging Pass, Laredo, and Zapata, all ranging Pass, Laredo, and Zapata, all ranging from 95% to 100% Hispanic. Let's just from 95% to 100% Hispanic. Let's just from 95% to 100% Hispanic. Let's just say for the sake of the argument that say for the sake of the argument that say for the sake of the argument that illegals are voting in this. Uh illegals are voting in this. Uh illegals are voting in this. Uh predominantly, Trump won by a large predominantly, Trump won by a large predominantly, Trump won by a large margin in all of those counties, but margin in all of those counties, but margin in all of those counties, but they're all border towns. So even then, they're all border towns. So even then, they're all border towns. So even then, if illegals are voting, they're if illegals are voting, they're if illegals are voting, they're predominantly voting Republican. predominantly voting Republican. predominantly voting Republican. >> Okay, this is so fascinating. So I think >> Okay, this is so fascinating. So I think >> Okay, this is so fascinating. So I think the your read, your analysis on the data the your read, your analysis on the data the your read, your analysis on the data doesn't make sense. And so the to me the doesn't make sense. And so the to me the doesn't make sense. And so the to me the data is going to look something more data is going to look something more data is going to look something more like this. In border towns, those are like this. In border towns, those are like this. In border towns, those are people that are going to feel most people that are going to feel most people that are going to feel most strongly that you need to close the strongly that you need to close the strongly that you need to close the border. So the great irony is that in border. So the great irony is that in border. So the great irony is that in those towns, especially the people that those towns, especially the people that those towns, especially the people that they're likely to be able to pull to get they're likely to be able to pull to get they're likely to be able to pull to get these numbers or in the actual these numbers or in the actual these numbers or in the actual elections, are going to be predominantly elections, are going to be predominantly elections, are going to be predominantly the people that can vote because I agree the people that can vote because I agree the people that can vote because I agree with Drew. I don't think that right now with Drew. I don't think that right now with Drew. I don't think that right now we have like some insane massive amount we have like some insane massive amount we have like some insane massive amount of voter fraud. What I see is of voter fraud. What I see is of voter fraud. What I see is terraforming to make sure that we can terraforming to make sure that we can terraforming to make sure that we can actually do some sort of amnesty actually do some sort of amnesty actually do some sort of amnesty program. So the people that have come program. So the people that have come program. So the people that have come across the border for reasons that we'll across the border for reasons that we'll across the border for reasons that we'll get into in a minute that really inform get into in a minute that really inform get into in a minute that really inform my decision-making, so that they will be my decision-making, so that they will be my decision-making, so that they will be able to vote. Now I think what's able to vote. Now I think what's able to vote. Now I think what's happening in California is ballot happening in California is ballot happening in California is ballot harvesting and things that ought to be harvesting and things that ought to be harvesting and things that ought to be illegal but actually aren't illegal. So illegal but actually aren't illegal. So illegal but actually aren't illegal. So let's tease that out. But what I see us let's tease that out. But what I see us let's tease that out. But what I see us doing is moving ever more towards the doing is moving ever more towards the doing is moving ever more towards the first of all, illegal aliens count in first of all, illegal aliens count in first of all, illegal aliens count in the census, so that is going to change the census, so that is going to change the census, so that is going to change the power dynamic already. Nobody the power dynamic already. Nobody the power dynamic already. Nobody debates that. Nobody argues whether debates that. Nobody argues whether debates that. Nobody argues whether illegal aliens count towards the census illegal aliens count towards the census illegal aliens count towards the census or not. So full stop. or not. So full stop. or not. So full stop. The fact that a border town is going to The fact that a border town is going to The fact that a border town is going to be more likely to feel the effects of be more likely to feel the effects of be more likely to feel the effects of illegal immigration is well documented. illegal immigration is well documented. illegal immigration is well documented. So you're going to get some of your So you're going to get some of your So you're going to get some of your biggest pushback there. So it doesn't biggest pushback there. So it doesn't biggest pushback there. So it doesn't surprise me that border towns are voting surprise me that border towns are voting surprise me that border towns are voting for Trump because he was the guy saying, for Trump because he was the guy saying, for Trump because he was the guy saying, "I'm going to stop people from coming "I'm going to stop people from coming "I'm going to stop people from coming in." It also does not surprise in." It also does not surprise in." It also does not surprise >> Hispanic, though? >> Hispanic, though? >> Hispanic, though? >> Yes. Hispanics are like the most hold >> Yes. Hispanics are like the most hold >> Yes. Hispanics are like the most hold the [ __ ] on. Like I came here legally, the [ __ ] on. Like I came here legally, the [ __ ] on. Like I came here legally, you got to like chill this out. you got to like chill this out. you got to like chill this out. >> Well, but for the the sake of the >> Well, but for the the sake of the >> Well, but for the the sake of the argument with illegals and I mean these argument with illegals and I mean these argument with illegals and I mean these are border towns, right? So if if there are border towns, right? So if if there are border towns, right? So if if there are illegal immigrants in these border are illegal immigrants in these border are illegal immigrants in these border towns, most of those people probably towns, most of those people probably towns, most of those people probably have birthright citizenship if we're have birthright citizenship if we're have birthright citizenship if we're going the Hispanics legally voting, going the Hispanics legally voting, going the Hispanics legally voting, right? right? right? >> Well, so hold on. Now you're talking >> Well, so hold on. Now you're talking >> Well, so hold on. Now you're talking about legal voters because right now if about legal voters because right now if about legal voters because right now if you have a baby in the United States, you have a baby in the United States, you have a baby in the United States, they are immediately a citizen. So if they are immediately a citizen. So if they are immediately a citizen. So if you're talking about somebody that's, you're talking about somebody that's, you're talking about somebody that's, you know, whatever 18 years down the you know, whatever 18 years down the you know, whatever 18 years down the road, they're not illegal. So this is road, they're not illegal. So this is road, they're not illegal. So this is where we really have to get specific where we really have to get specific where we really have to get specific about what exactly we're saying. about what exactly we're saying. about what exactly we're saying. But when you start looking at the data, But when you start looking at the data, But when you start looking at the data, and I don't want this to be the the full and I don't want this to be the the full and I don't want this to be the the full derail cuz I think we can address this derail cuz I think we can address this derail cuz I think we can address this at the level of thought experiment at the level of thought experiment at the level of thought experiment rather than getting lost in the weeds, rather than getting lost in the weeds, rather than getting lost in the weeds, but just to close the loop, when you but just to close the loop, when you but just to close the loop, when you start looking at the data there, that start looking at the data there, that start looking at the data there, that the people who come here legally resent the people who come here legally resent the people who come here legally resent the people that are coming illegally. the people that are coming illegally. the people that are coming illegally. And so the border towns are often wildly And so the border towns are often wildly And so the border towns are often wildly Hispanic in population, but they're Hispanic in population, but they're Hispanic in population, but they're wildly Hispanic, they've come, they've wildly Hispanic, they've come, they've wildly Hispanic, they've come, they've integrated to some extent. Uh if they're integrated to some extent. Uh if they're integrated to some extent. Uh if they're the ones picking up the phone and the ones picking up the phone and the ones picking up the phone and actually answering the poll questions, actually answering the poll questions, actually answering the poll questions, they are likely to be legal at that they are likely to be legal at that they are likely to be legal at that point, have legal status of some kind. point, have legal status of some kind. point, have legal status of some kind. Otherwise, they're dodging those [ __ ] Otherwise, they're dodging those [ __ ] Otherwise, they're dodging those [ __ ] calls. They don't even want you to know calls. They don't even want you to know calls. They don't even want you to know that they exist. And so that they exist. And so that they exist. And so the fact that that creates this the fact that that creates this the fact that that creates this appearance that, "Oh, immigrants lean appearance that, "Oh, immigrants lean appearance that, "Oh, immigrants lean Trump." is going to give you a very Trump." is going to give you a very Trump." is going to give you a very different picture than people that came different picture than people that came different picture than people that came over the border over the last four years over the border over the last four years over the border over the last four years because they see that we have good because they see that we have good because they see that we have good services that in places like California services that in places like California services that in places like California apply even to illegal immigrants. And apply even to illegal immigrants. And apply even to illegal immigrants. And the governor of California is making the governor of California is making the governor of California is making mouth noises as aggressively as he can mouth noises as aggressively as he can mouth noises as aggressively as he can to say, "Not only like we're going to to say, "Not only like we're going to to say, "Not only like we're going to fight for your rights, we're going to fight for your rights, we're going to fight for your rights, we're going to make sure that you get what you need." make sure that you get what you need." make sure that you get what you need." You've got the same thing coming out of You've got the same thing coming out of You've got the same thing coming out of the DSA in New York. to fight for the DSA in New York. to fight for the DSA in New York. to fight for illegals, whether you're temporary illegals, whether you're temporary illegals, whether you're temporary protected status or not. We're going to protected status or not. We're going to protected status or not. We're going to make sure that we protect you from the make sure that we protect you from the make sure that we protect you from the recent immigration recent immigration recent immigration um Supreme Court decisions like the So um Supreme Court decisions like the So um Supreme Court decisions like the So there's there's there's a complex issue at play. Now, pull back a complex issue at play. Now, pull back a complex issue at play. Now, pull back out to the just what are the likely out to the just what are the likely out to the just what are the likely um um um motivational factors. Like show me the motivational factors. Like show me the motivational factors. Like show me the incentives, I'll show you the outcome. incentives, I'll show you the outcome. incentives, I'll show you the outcome. So, if you have a country that has So, if you have a country that has So, if you have a country that has incredible incredible incredible services for people and you just need to services for people and you just need to services for people and you just need to qualify for those services, of course, qualify for those services, of course, qualify for those services, of course, if somebody says, "Hey, the wealthiest if somebody says, "Hey, the wealthiest if somebody says, "Hey, the wealthiest nation on planet Earth has open borders, nation on planet Earth has open borders, nation on planet Earth has open borders, come on in." You're going to get a lot come on in." You're going to get a lot come on in." You're going to get a lot of people coming in. We know that of people coming in. We know that of people coming in. We know that millions of people crossed the border in millions of people crossed the border in millions of people crossed the border in the last 4 years alone. And then you the last 4 years alone. And then you the last 4 years alone. And then you >> What is it? Closed for the last 2 years? >> What is it? Closed for the last 2 years? >> What is it? Closed for the last 2 years? >> The border's been closed for the last 18 >> The border's been closed for the last 18 >> The border's been closed for the last 18 months, I'll grant you that. I certainly months, I'll grant you that. I certainly months, I'll grant you that. I certainly won't give you the last 2 years. won't give you the last 2 years. won't give you the last 2 years. >> it's been closed >> it's been closed >> it's been closed >> hold on, hold on, hold on. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. Ask yourself, "What?" Ask yourself, "What?" Ask yourself, "What?" >> I It's not It hasn't been closed since >> I It's not It hasn't been closed since >> I It's not It hasn't been closed since the 2000. That's the wildest thing I've the 2000. That's the wildest thing I've the 2000. That's the wildest thing I've ever heard. That's crazy. ever heard. That's crazy. ever heard. That's crazy. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Wait, it hasn't been closed since 2000? >> Wait, it hasn't been closed since 2000? >> Wait, it hasn't been closed since 2000? under Biden. That is true. But acting as under Biden. That is true. But acting as under Biden. That is true. But acting as though they completely stopped is a though they completely stopped is a though they completely stopped is a little It was a little like misleading. little It was a little like misleading. little It was a little like misleading. >> I just want everybody to know I just >> I just want everybody to know I just >> I just want everybody to know I just want Hold on. I want everybody to know want Hold on. I want everybody to know want Hold on. I want everybody to know we got here because I asked Tom, "What we got here because I asked Tom, "What we got here because I asked Tom, "What data do we have on voter fraud?" data do we have on voter fraud?" data do we have on voter fraud?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, we didn't. That's not why we're >> No, we didn't. That's not why we're >> No, we didn't. That's not why we're here. What's happening right now? here. What's happening right now? here. What's happening right now? >> That That was the last thing I said. I >> That That was the last thing I said. I >> That That was the last thing I said. I said, "We have data on how many people said, "We have data on how many people said, "We have data on how many people can afford housing. We don't have data can afford housing. We don't have data can afford housing. We don't have data on how many illegals are voting." on how many illegals are voting." on how many illegals are voting." >> Yes. And the thing that I'm trying to >> Yes. And the thing that I'm trying to >> Yes. And the thing that I'm trying to make abundantly clear for everybody is make abundantly clear for everybody is make abundantly clear for everybody is you have to tease all of these into you have to tease all of these into you have to tease all of these into separate things you can talk about. And separate things you can talk about. And separate things you can talk about. And I said, "I don't think that we have a I said, "I don't think that we have a I said, "I don't think that we have a major illegal voter problem. That's not major illegal voter problem. That's not major illegal voter problem. That's not what I'm worried about. What I'm worried what I'm worried about. What I'm worried what I'm worried about. What I'm worried about is the incentive structure, which about is the incentive structure, which about is the incentive structure, which is what I'm walking people through now." is what I'm walking people through now." is what I'm walking people through now." So, this is So, this is So, this is we have to take these things one at a we have to take these things one at a we have to take these things one at a time. time. time. >> Let's take them one at a time. >> Let's take them one at a time. >> Let's take them one at a time. >> And what ends up happening in all of >> And what ends up happening in all of >> And what ends up happening in all of these debates is people start conflating these debates is people start conflating these debates is people start conflating everything. They get lost in the [ __ ] everything. They get lost in the [ __ ] everything. They get lost in the [ __ ] weeds and they debate [ __ ] rather than weeds and they debate [ __ ] rather than weeds and they debate [ __ ] rather than pulling up and going, "What is the pulling up and going, "What is the pulling up and going, "What is the incentive structure? What's the incentive structure? What's the incentive structure? What's the principle at play here?" And what I'm principle at play here?" And what I'm principle at play here?" And what I'm saying is, from an incentive structure, saying is, from an incentive structure, saying is, from an incentive structure, and I'm going to say this as a fact, I'm and I'm going to say this as a fact, I'm and I'm going to say this as a fact, I'm not looking for feedback. As a statement not looking for feedback. As a statement not looking for feedback. As a statement of fact, at least in my universe, of fact, at least in my universe, of fact, at least in my universe, if you give services away for free and if you give services away for free and if you give services away for free and you tell people who live in countries you tell people who live in countries you tell people who live in countries that cannot get access to services like that cannot get access to services like that cannot get access to services like that, that live in a country that is that, that live in a country that is that, that live in a country that is falling apart, that has been torn apart falling apart, that has been torn apart falling apart, that has been torn apart by by by uh drug lords or by uh drug lords or by uh drug lords or by socialism itself. I mean, think about socialism itself. I mean, think about socialism itself. I mean, think about people people people that have fled here from countries that that have fled here from countries that that have fled here from countries that legitimately their currency is legitimately their currency is legitimately their currency is collapsing, things like that, okay? collapsing, things like that, okay? collapsing, things like that, okay? They're coming in and it is a They're coming in and it is a They're coming in and it is a legitimately better life. Now, the legitimately better life. Now, the legitimately better life. Now, the problem is that when you do that, problem is that when you do that, problem is that when you do that, you have this thing called the census. you have this thing called the census. you have this thing called the census. The census drives your representation in The census drives your representation in The census drives your representation in Congress and that census does not ask Congress and that census does not ask Congress and that census does not ask whether you are here on vacation, whether you are here on vacation, whether you are here on vacation, whether you're here legally, whether whether you're here legally, whether whether you're here legally, whether you're here illegally. Just says how you're here illegally. Just says how you're here illegally. Just says how many bodies are in the state. That many bodies are in the state. That many bodies are in the state. That determines that state's representation determines that state's representation determines that state's representation at the national level. So, now you have at the national level. So, now you have at the national level. So, now you have an incentive structure for people to an incentive structure for people to an incentive structure for people to come here to get the free things and come here to get the free things and come here to get the free things and they are going to vote for whoever it is they are going to vote for whoever it is they are going to vote for whoever it is that's going to give them the free that's going to give them the free that's going to give them the free things that they came for and you have things that they came for and you have things that they came for and you have one party that is beating the drum that, one party that is beating the drum that, one party that is beating the drum that, "Hey, we're going to give you that." So, "Hey, we're going to give you that." So, "Hey, we're going to give you that." So, we've seen this play out in California. we've seen this play out in California. we've seen this play out in California. You can look at the litany of credible You can look at the litany of credible You can look at the litany of credible scholars that say the big mistake in scholars that say the big mistake in scholars that say the big mistake in California in terms of it becoming a California in terms of it becoming a California in terms of it becoming a one-party state was when Reagan gave one-party state was when Reagan gave one-party state was when Reagan gave amnesty to all of the immigrants that amnesty to all of the immigrants that amnesty to all of the immigrants that had come before. And so, they all had come before. And so, they all had come before. And so, they all started voting blue because those were started voting blue because those were started voting blue because those were the policies that made the government the policies that made the government the policies that made the government bigger, made social services bigger, and bigger, made social services bigger, and bigger, made social services bigger, and got them a lot of free stuff. got them a lot of free stuff. got them a lot of free stuff. So, now it's like not only do we have So, now it's like not only do we have So, now it's like not only do we have historical evidence that that's exactly historical evidence that that's exactly historical evidence that that's exactly how people end up voting, but we can how people end up voting, but we can how people end up voting, but we can follow that chain of logic. And so, what follow that chain of logic. And so, what follow that chain of logic. And so, what I'm saying is as you look at the beats I'm saying is as you look at the beats I'm saying is as you look at the beats of that chain of logic, you've created of that chain of logic, you've created of that chain of logic, you've created an incentive structure where California an incentive structure where California an incentive structure where California grows more powerful at the national grows more powerful at the national grows more powerful at the national level the more people that they can get level the more people that they can get level the more people that they can get into the state. And that the people that into the state. And that the people that into the state. And that the people that get into the state to grant them that get into the state to grant them that get into the state to grant them that power are incentivized to continue to power are incentivized to continue to power are incentivized to continue to vote for them because of the policies vote for them because of the policies vote for them because of the policies that they're running, which is more tax that they're running, which is more tax that they're running, which is more tax dollars, more free things regardless of dollars, more free things regardless of dollars, more free things regardless of status. And so, if you have any concern status. And so, if you have any concern status. And so, if you have any concern at all about this country becoming a at all about this country becoming a at all about this country becoming a one-party state, which I would have one-party state, which I would have one-party state, which I would have tremendous fears left or right. I do not tremendous fears left or right. I do not tremendous fears left or right. I do not want a one-party state country. That is want a one-party state country. That is want a one-party state country. That is exactly how you devolve into madness. exactly how you devolve into madness. exactly how you devolve into madness. So, we have a grease shoot pipeline that So, we have a grease shoot pipeline that So, we have a grease shoot pipeline that we watched over the last 4 years we watched over the last 4 years we watched over the last 4 years pre-Trump. So, it's not exactly the last pre-Trump. So, it's not exactly the last pre-Trump. So, it's not exactly the last 4 years, whatever, going back 4 years, whatever, going back 4 years, whatever, going back a year and a half, the 4 years before. a year and a half, the 4 years before. a year and a half, the 4 years before. So, during that period, we had I don't So, during that period, we had I don't So, during that period, we had I don't think anybody's contesting this, think anybody's contesting this, think anybody's contesting this, millions of people except for maybe millions of people except for maybe millions of people except for maybe Ryan, millions of people came across the Ryan, millions of people came across the Ryan, millions of people came across the border with that incentive structure. border with that incentive structure. border with that incentive structure. So, now I'm just saying, "Hey, So, now I'm just saying, "Hey, So, now I'm just saying, "Hey, given that we know given that we know given that we know that you have that you have that you have places like California that are saying, places like California that are saying, places like California that are saying, "We want to get these people legal so "We want to get these people legal so "We want to get these people legal so that they can vote." We have places like that they can vote." We have places like that they can vote." We have places like Minnesota saying the same thing. You've Minnesota saying the same thing. You've Minnesota saying the same thing. You've got got got a national opportunity to say only a national opportunity to say only a national opportunity to say only citizens can vote. That's how it already citizens can vote. That's how it already citizens can vote. That's how it already is. Let's just formalize that. Let's is. Let's just formalize that. Let's is. Let's just formalize that. Let's make people prove that they're actually make people prove that they're actually make people prove that they're actually a citizen. a citizen. a citizen. And that to me is exactly what you need And that to me is exactly what you need And that to me is exactly what you need in order to avoid becoming a one-party in order to avoid becoming a one-party in order to avoid becoming a one-party country, which would be, in my opinion, country, which would be, in my opinion, country, which would be, in my opinion, an absolute catastrophic disaster. an absolute catastrophic disaster. an absolute catastrophic disaster. Okay. Okay. Okay. That is the cause and effect sequence of That is the cause and effect sequence of That is the cause and effect sequence of like like like logic. Now, if there's a beat of that logic. Now, if there's a beat of that logic. Now, if there's a beat of that logic, not that there's something more logic, not that there's something more logic, not that there's something more important or whatever, which we can important or whatever, which we can important or whatever, which we can absolutely talk about after that, but if absolutely talk about after that, but if absolutely talk about after that, but if there is a beat in that logic where it's there is a beat in that logic where it's there is a beat in that logic where it's like, "No, that is a fundamentally wrong like, "No, that is a fundamentally wrong like, "No, that is a fundamentally wrong assumption." Hit me. assumption." Hit me. assumption." Hit me. >> A fundamentally wrong assumption. TPS >> A fundamentally wrong assumption. TPS >> A fundamentally wrong assumption. TPS status was just ended from the Supreme status was just ended from the Supreme status was just ended from the Supreme Court. Birthright citizen is is going to Court. Birthright citizen is is going to Court. Birthright citizen is is going to be ended under Trump. be ended under Trump. be ended under Trump. Um the border Um the border Um the border >> But I didn't talk about any of that. So, >> But I didn't talk about any of that. So, >> But I didn't talk about any of that. So, what do you mean? what do you mean? what do you mean? >> You're just saying that a million 2 >> You're just saying that a million 2 >> You're just saying that a million 2 million people came over the border million people came over the border million people came over the border illegally. They're going to get amnesty illegally. They're going to get amnesty illegally. They're going to get amnesty from like a Reagan from like a Reagan from like a Reagan legislation, and that's going to turn legislation, and that's going to turn legislation, and that's going to turn them into citizens. What I'm saying is them into citizens. What I'm saying is them into citizens. What I'm saying is that people the that people the that people the >> Not citizens, but >> Not citizens, but >> Not citizens, but >> People who can vote. >> People who can vote. >> People who can vote. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> The people who are now here, who would >> The people who are now here, who would >> The people who are now here, who would be eligible for that? TPS, the TPS be eligible for that? TPS, the TPS be eligible for that? TPS, the TPS temporary protected status. temporary protected status. temporary protected status. >> Some. That's like the people that are on >> Some. That's like the people that are on >> Some. That's like the people that are on the radar officially. the radar officially. the radar officially. >> a fraction of those people. Yes. Those >> a fraction of those people. Yes. Those >> a fraction of those people. Yes. Those people are not able to get those get people are not able to get those get people are not able to get those get amnesties. Birthright citizenship. The amnesties. Birthright citizenship. The amnesties. Birthright citizenship. The second wave of people who are illegals second wave of people who are illegals second wave of people who are illegals who come over the border who have babies who come over the border who have babies who come over the border who have babies and they're now those kids are citizens. and they're now those kids are citizens. and they're now those kids are citizens. They can then vote 18 years from now. They can then vote 18 years from now. They can then vote 18 years from now. Even though the housing bill would help Even though the housing bill would help Even though the housing bill would help people today, people today, people today, um we're talking about 18-year problem. um we're talking about 18-year problem. um we're talking about 18-year problem. I just want everybody to know that. Um I just want everybody to know that. Um I just want everybody to know that. Um so that the birthright citizen thing, so that the birthright citizen thing, so that the birthright citizen thing, that's going to get overturned by Trump that's going to get overturned by Trump that's going to get overturned by Trump as well. as well. as well. >> Maybe. We'll see. That hasn't happened >> Maybe. We'll see. That hasn't happened >> Maybe. We'll see. That hasn't happened yet. yet. yet. >> He's four for four on the immigration >> He's four for four on the immigration >> He's four for four on the immigration with the Supreme Court and the Supreme with the Supreme Court and the Supreme with the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court is mostly conservative. It's a Court is mostly conservative. It's a Court is mostly conservative. It's a conservative take. conservative take. conservative take. >> Okay, so wait. Let me What I hear you >> Okay, so wait. Let me What I hear you >> Okay, so wait. Let me What I hear you saying, correct me if I'm headed in the saying, correct me if I'm headed in the saying, correct me if I'm headed in the wrong direction, is that hey, what's wrong direction, is that hey, what's wrong direction, is that hey, what's really going on here is we're solving really going on here is we're solving really going on here is we're solving the problem by other means. So why put the problem by other means. So why put the problem by other means. So why put >> the the amnesty issue fear that you >> the the amnesty issue fear that you >> the the amnesty issue fear that you have, that rate that was true in the have, that rate that was true in the have, that rate that was true in the '80s under Reagan or '70s, '80s under Reagan or '70s, '80s under Reagan or '70s, um is not true currently because the um is not true currently because the um is not true currently because the Supreme Court leans right and the right Supreme Court leans right and the right Supreme Court leans right and the right policy that is leading that Supreme policy that is leading that Supreme policy that is leading that Supreme Court Court Court >> Was my summation incorrect in some way? >> Was my summation incorrect in some way? >> Was my summation incorrect in some way? >> Yes, because your fear of the his of the >> Yes, because your fear of the his of the >> Yes, because your fear of the his of the his history repeating is not repeating his history repeating is not repeating his history repeating is not repeating cuz we're breaking those things that cuz we're breaking those things that cuz we're breaking those things that would allow would allow would allow >> That's what I just said. So here's what >> That's what I just said. So here's what >> That's what I just said. So here's what I hear you saying. I hear you saying. I hear you saying. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> That Tommy, you don't need to worry >> That Tommy, you don't need to worry >> That Tommy, you don't need to worry about this because the problem is being about this because the problem is being about this because the problem is being solved by another method. solved by another method. solved by another method. >> Yeah, and I was listing those methods, >> Yeah, and I was listing those methods, >> Yeah, and I was listing those methods, yeah. yeah. yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying there's >> Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying there's >> Yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with what I hear you nothing wrong with what I hear you nothing wrong with what I hear you saying, correct? That is what you're saying, correct? That is what you're saying, correct? That is what you're saying. So I don't believe in any way, saying. So I don't believe in any way, saying. So I don't believe in any way, shape or form that that is going to shape or form that that is going to shape or form that that is going to clean up everything. clean up everything. clean up everything. And I don't see why we wouldn't just And I don't see why we wouldn't just And I don't see why we wouldn't just say, hey, given that say, hey, given that say, hey, given that you it's already the law that only you it's already the law that only you it's already the law that only citizens can vote, why would we not want citizens can vote, why would we not want citizens can vote, why would we not want people to prove that they are in fact a people to prove that they are in fact a people to prove that they are in fact a citizen? citizen? citizen? >> This is now we're moving to a second >> This is now we're moving to a second >> This is now we're moving to a second point cuz we finished our first point. point cuz we finished our first point. point cuz we finished our first point. >> That That's That's my whole point. >> That That's That's my whole point. >> That That's That's my whole point. >> Your initial fear was that the illegals >> Your initial fear was that the illegals >> Your initial fear was that the illegals that crossed the border will get amnesty that crossed the border will get amnesty that crossed the border will get amnesty and then they will do that. and then they will do that. and then they will do that. >> Yeah, that is that is >> Yeah, that is that is >> Yeah, that is that is >> So we just solved that that's not going >> So we just solved that that's not going >> So we just solved that that's not going to happen. to happen. to happen. >> that we're trying No, no, we didn't. >> that we're trying No, no, we didn't. >> that we're trying No, no, we didn't. What I'm saying is I hear you saying What I'm saying is I hear you saying What I'm saying is I hear you saying that and I'm saying it won't be that and I'm saying it won't be that and I'm saying it won't be effective. So let's say that that mops effective. So let's say that that mops effective. So let's say that that mops up up up some percentage. It's unknown. I could some percentage. It's unknown. I could some percentage. It's unknown. I could give you an answer, but it would be give you an answer, but it would be give you an answer, but it would be completely made up. But, it seems like completely made up. But, it seems like completely made up. But, it seems like the um the um the um in your mind, the base assumption that in your mind, the base assumption that in your mind, the base assumption that you're running is that these new Supreme you're running is that these new Supreme you're running is that these new Supreme Court decisions clean up 100% of that Court decisions clean up 100% of that Court decisions clean up 100% of that problem. And my belief is not only is problem. And my belief is not only is problem. And my belief is not only is that not true, that I don't even think that not true, that I don't even think that not true, that I don't even think that the government has any sense of that the government has any sense of that the government has any sense of exactly how many people have come in. exactly how many people have come in. exactly how many people have come in. So, people that have a formal status So, people that have a formal status So, people that have a formal status like temporary protective services, um like temporary protective services, um like temporary protective services, um yeah, those are status. Those people are yeah, those are status. Those people are yeah, those are status. Those people are recognized. And if you were saying, recognized. And if you were saying, recognized. And if you were saying, "Man, I really hate that the people who "Man, I really hate that the people who "Man, I really hate that the people who did the right thing by actually coming did the right thing by actually coming did the right thing by actually coming in and saying, 'Oh, you have this TPS in and saying, 'Oh, you have this TPS in and saying, 'Oh, you have this TPS thing. I would like to take advantage of thing. I would like to take advantage of thing. I would like to take advantage of that.'" Um and those are the ones that that.'" Um and those are the ones that that.'" Um and those are the ones that we're booting out first, I get why that we're booting out first, I get why that we're booting out first, I get why that would rub you the wrong way. would rub you the wrong way. would rub you the wrong way. >> But, for the Supreme Court, they also >> But, for the Supreme Court, they also >> But, for the Supreme Court, they also got asylum seekers, people who came in got asylum seekers, people who came in got asylum seekers, people who came in through the border, who came over the through the border, who came over the through the border, who came over the border, who then said, "Now, we just border, who then said, "Now, we just border, who then said, "Now, we just came in over border. Now, we're seeking came in over border. Now, we're seeking came in over border. Now, we're seeking asylum. We're in these attention asylum. We're in these attention asylum. We're in these attention centers." Those also high profile centers." Those also high profile centers." Those also high profile >> So, but for you, what percentage of all >> So, but for you, what percentage of all >> So, but for you, what percentage of all the people that have come across the the people that have come across the the people that have come across the border border border uh for decades, what percentage do you uh for decades, what percentage do you uh for decades, what percentage do you think get cleaned up by that? think get cleaned up by that? think get cleaned up by that? >> It's the same answer that you just said. >> It's the same answer that you just said. >> It's the same answer that you just said. I can't give you an answer cuz it'll be I can't give you an answer cuz it'll be I can't give you an answer cuz it'll be arbitrary. arbitrary. arbitrary. >> Sure, but if if at least we understand >> Sure, but if if at least we understand >> Sure, but if if at least we understand that you think that percentage, the way that you think that percentage, the way that you think that percentage, the way you're looking at me is as if you think you're looking at me is as if you think you're looking at me is as if you think that percentage is like dangerously that percentage is like dangerously that percentage is like dangerously close to 100%. close to 100%. close to 100%. >> Cuz I'm looking at you because you said >> Cuz I'm looking at you because you said >> Cuz I'm looking at you because you said you your biggest fear at the start of you your biggest fear at the start of you your biggest fear at the start of this conversation, part the part three this conversation, part the part three this conversation, part the part three of the conversation, was that amnesty of the conversation, was that amnesty of the conversation, was that amnesty for asylum seekers that then converted for asylum seekers that then converted for asylum seekers that then converted into voting members of the populace. into voting members of the populace. into voting members of the populace. That was your biggest fear. And I'm That was your biggest fear. And I'm That was your biggest fear. And I'm saying there are Supreme Court decisions saying there are Supreme Court decisions saying there are Supreme Court decisions that are happening now that are happening now that are happening now >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> that are making sure asylum seekers are >> that are making sure asylum seekers are >> that are making sure asylum seekers are sent back. sent back. sent back. >> we got to that part. So, where where you >> we got to that part. So, where where you >> we got to that part. So, where where you and I are disconnecting is on our base and I are disconnecting is on our base and I are disconnecting is on our base assumption about what percentage of the assumption about what percentage of the assumption about what percentage of the problem that cleans up. I'm getting to problem that cleans up. I'm getting to problem that cleans up. I'm getting to that. that. that. >> you're only saying 10% of that cleans >> you're only saying 10% of that cleans >> you're only saying 10% of that cleans up. There's still 90% of people that to up. There's still 90% of people that to up. There's still 90% of people that to be be be >> Yeah, that's ballpark. I don't have the >> Yeah, that's ballpark. I don't have the >> Yeah, that's ballpark. I don't have the data, but data, but data, but >> So then those 90 people are now coming >> So then those 90 people are now coming >> So then those 90 people are now coming in illegally. They didn't get any in illegally. They didn't get any in illegally. They didn't get any government services cuz if you got to government services cuz if you got to government services cuz if you got to government services, you'll be on one of government services, you'll be on one of government services, you'll be on one of these logs. these logs. these logs. >> They do get government services >> They do get government services >> They do get government services depending on what state they're depending on what state they're depending on what state they're >> But they'll they'll have to be on those >> But they'll they'll have to be on those >> But they'll they'll have to be on those logs though. So that's what I'm saying. logs though. So that's what I'm saying. logs though. So that's what I'm saying. So you So you So you >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> What do you mean? >> On one hand, you can't say that they're >> On one hand, you can't say that they're >> On one hand, you can't say that they're getting government services, but the getting government services, but the getting government services, but the government doesn't know who they are. If government doesn't know who they are. If government doesn't know who they are. If they're getting government services, they're getting government services, they're getting government services, they have to register as they have to register as they have to register as illegal. And then if they're registering illegal. And then if they're registering illegal. And then if they're registering as an illegal, then they are then being as an illegal, then they are then being as an illegal, then they are then being identified identified identified >> we've just encountered another base >> we've just encountered another base >> we've just encountered another base assumption. So one, I think there's assumption. So one, I think there's assumption. So one, I think there's going to be plenty of identity theft going to be plenty of identity theft going to be plenty of identity theft that exists in that. that exists in that. that exists in that. Uh where people are using social Uh where people are using social Uh where people are using social security numbers that don't belong to security numbers that don't belong to security numbers that don't belong to them. And then two, you've got um people them. And then two, you've got um people them. And then two, you've got um people that like in a in California or that like in a in California or that like in a in California or Minnesota or increasingly New York where Minnesota or increasingly New York where Minnesota or increasingly New York where they are actively trying to make they are actively trying to make they are actively trying to make services available to people that don't services available to people that don't services available to people that don't have any kind of documentation at all. have any kind of documentation at all. have any kind of documentation at all. So now So now So now uh we run the risk of now fractaling uh we run the risk of now fractaling uh we run the risk of now fractaling over into another problem which is over into another problem which is over into another problem which is are illegal immigrants actually are illegal immigrants actually are illegal immigrants actually contributing more than they take and all contributing more than they take and all contributing more than they take and all that stuff which we can't talk about. that stuff which we can't talk about. that stuff which we can't talk about. I've done a whole video on, but is all I've done a whole video on, but is all I've done a whole video on, but is all of that stuff we don't need to litigate of that stuff we don't need to litigate of that stuff we don't need to litigate each one of those points when the each one of those points when the each one of those points when the reality is we can find the terminal reality is we can find the terminal reality is we can find the terminal thing that we disagree on which is you thing that we disagree on which is you thing that we disagree on which is you think either the problem isn't a big think either the problem isn't a big think either the problem isn't a big deal or maybe it's even just that people deal or maybe it's even just that people deal or maybe it's even just that people should be able to come here. Um or the should be able to come here. Um or the should be able to come here. Um or the problem is already cleaned up by these problem is already cleaned up by these problem is already cleaned up by these Supreme Court decisions. And so if our Supreme Court decisions. And so if our Supreme Court decisions. And so if our terminal collision where we go, "Okay, terminal collision where we go, "Okay, terminal collision where we go, "Okay, cool. I understand your position. I cool. I understand your position. I cool. I understand your position. I disagree which is perfectly fine. I'm disagree which is perfectly fine. I'm disagree which is perfectly fine. I'm actually not trying to convince you. I'm actually not trying to convince you. I'm actually not trying to convince you. I'm just trying to tell you what my position just trying to tell you what my position just trying to tell you what my position is." So if you're like, "I think this is." So if you're like, "I think this is." So if you're like, "I think this cleans up the vast majority of something cleans up the vast majority of something cleans up the vast majority of something that already isn't really a big that already isn't really a big that already isn't really a big problem." That's what I hear you saying. problem." That's what I hear you saying. problem." That's what I hear you saying. And so that to me, if I'm doing theory And so that to me, if I'm doing theory And so that to me, if I'm doing theory of mind, I'm like, "Oh, I understand why of mind, I'm like, "Oh, I understand why of mind, I'm like, "Oh, I understand why you think what you think." Because I you think what you think." Because I you think what you think." Because I think your argument goes like this. think your argument goes like this. think your argument goes like this. They're holding up affordability, They're holding up affordability, They're holding up affordability, housing affordability which is a far housing affordability which is a far housing affordability which is a far more important issue, and it's immediate more important issue, and it's immediate more important issue, and it's immediate because you were like, this other thing because you were like, this other thing because you were like, this other thing is like an 18-year project. Like, what is like an 18-year project. Like, what is like an 18-year project. Like, what the [ __ ] are we even talking about? So, the [ __ ] are we even talking about? So, the [ __ ] are we even talking about? So, you've got this immediate thing that you've got this immediate thing that you've got this immediate thing that could alleviate a real pain point. could alleviate a real pain point. could alleviate a real pain point. And so, I don't even know why Tom is And so, I don't even know why Tom is And so, I don't even know why Tom is making me [ __ ] talk about this. This making me [ __ ] talk about this. This making me [ __ ] talk about this. This is ridiculous. And so, it's a is ridiculous. And so, it's a is ridiculous. And so, it's a non-problem to start, and it's already non-problem to start, and it's already non-problem to start, and it's already being cleaned up by this other thing. being cleaned up by this other thing. being cleaned up by this other thing. And so, that's like, cool. I can lay out And so, that's like, cool. I can lay out And so, that's like, cool. I can lay out your string of logic. It has internal your string of logic. It has internal your string of logic. It has internal consistency. I just disagree with consistency. I just disagree with consistency. I just disagree with multiple base assumptions that you have. multiple base assumptions that you have. multiple base assumptions that you have. >> That it will get cleaned up. That the >> That it will get cleaned up. That the >> That it will get cleaned up. That the Supreme Court is going to do his job. Supreme Court is going to do his job. Supreme Court is going to do his job. That the That the That the >> I don't think those things will have the >> I don't think those things will have the >> I don't think those things will have the impact that you think they will have. impact that you think they will have. impact that you think they will have. And so, if you were to map me, just as I And so, if you were to map me, just as I And so, if you were to map me, just as I can't point at you and go, "Oh, that's can't point at you and go, "Oh, that's can't point at you and go, "Oh, that's an inconsistent string of logic." an inconsistent string of logic." an inconsistent string of logic." You, I don't think, can point at me and You, I don't think, can point at me and You, I don't think, can point at me and go, "That's inconsistent." I'm not being go, "That's inconsistent." I'm not being go, "That's inconsistent." I'm not being inconsistent. You just don't agree with inconsistent. You just don't agree with inconsistent. You just don't agree with the base assumptions that my argument the base assumptions that my argument the base assumptions that my argument rides on top of. rides on top of. rides on top of. >> Got it. Okay, that's fair. >> Got it. Okay, that's fair. >> Got it. Okay, that's fair. >> And so, at that point, we go, "Cool. We >> And so, at that point, we go, "Cool. We >> And so, at that point, we go, "Cool. We understand each other, and we don't understand each other, and we don't understand each other, and we don't agree." And that's perfectly fine. To agree." And that's perfectly fine. To agree." And that's perfectly fine. To me, that's what people should be trying me, that's what people should be trying me, that's what people should be trying to do is say, "What does that person to do is say, "What does that person to do is say, "What does that person actually think?" And this will be for actually think?" And this will be for actually think?" And this will be for people that stay with us into the extra people that stay with us into the extra people that stay with us into the extra innings today, one of the things I'm innings today, one of the things I'm innings today, one of the things I'm going to be talking about with Chevalier going to be talking about with Chevalier going to be talking about with Chevalier is that she will not tell you her actual is that she will not tell you her actual is that she will not tell you her actual string of logic. She's a brilliant string of logic. She's a brilliant string of logic. She's a brilliant politician. Holy Jesus. But, she's not politician. Holy Jesus. But, she's not politician. Holy Jesus. But, she's not going to actually tell you the string of going to actually tell you the string of going to actually tell you the string of logic. And so, you're going to have a logic. And so, you're going to have a logic. And so, you're going to have a very hard time following her on purpose very hard time following her on purpose very hard time following her on purpose so that she can keep you in the realm of so that she can keep you in the realm of so that she can keep you in the realm of emotional reasoning rather than go, emotional reasoning rather than go, emotional reasoning rather than go, "Wait a second. Now that I know what "Wait a second. Now that I know what "Wait a second. Now that I know what your base assumption is, I can say I your base assumption is, I can say I your base assumption is, I can say I disagree with that wholeheartedly." So, disagree with that wholeheartedly." So, disagree with that wholeheartedly." So, when you understand somebody, and you when you understand somebody, and you when you understand somebody, and you can identify like what the base can identify like what the base can identify like what the base assumption is that you disagree on, then assumption is that you disagree on, then assumption is that you disagree on, then you can like drill into that, and then you can like drill into that, and then you can like drill into that, and then you can have a debate. you can have a debate. you can have a debate. So, what I hope we have effectively done So, what I hope we have effectively done So, what I hope we have effectively done here is lay out why we each think the here is lay out why we each think the here is lay out why we each think the other person is crazy, but I don't think other person is crazy, but I don't think other person is crazy, but I don't think that you're inconsistent. Your argument that you're inconsistent. Your argument that you're inconsistent. Your argument has internal logic. I can follow it. You has internal logic. I can follow it. You has internal logic. I can follow it. You were able to articulate it. I can say it were able to articulate it. I can say it were able to articulate it. I can say it back to you in a way that you recognize. back to you in a way that you recognize. back to you in a way that you recognize. And so it's like, yeah, cool. I We just And so it's like, yeah, cool. I We just And so it's like, yeah, cool. I We just disagree. That's where now the debate disagree. That's where now the debate disagree. That's where now the debate could live somewhere fruitful. I think could live somewhere fruitful. I think could live somewhere fruitful. I think it would be bad TV, and I'm sure we'll it would be bad TV, and I'm sure we'll it would be bad TV, and I'm sure we'll do it another day, but it's like now you do it another day, but it's like now you do it another day, but it's like now you can get into, okay, cool. That's what we can get into, okay, cool. That's what we can get into, okay, cool. That's what we have to argue. We have to get into what have to argue. We have to get into what have to argue. We have to get into what is the Supreme Court decision actually is the Supreme Court decision actually is the Supreme Court decision actually going to do? How many people are going to do? How many people are going to do? How many people are actually here? Are they getting access actually here? Are they getting access actually here? Are they getting access to these things at home worries about or to these things at home worries about or to these things at home worries about or not? Will they actually be able to vote not? Will they actually be able to vote not? Will they actually be able to vote or is this [ __ ] or is this [ __ ] or is this [ __ ] >> No, I'm not I'm not disputing that >> No, I'm not I'm not disputing that >> No, I'm not I'm not disputing that they're getting access to, so I'm not I they're getting access to, so I'm not I they're getting access to, so I'm not I think think think >> I'm just saying, now we know where the >> I'm just saying, now we know where the >> I'm just saying, now we know where the point of real conflict is and we can go point of real conflict is and we can go point of real conflict is and we can go ham on that stuff because now we're down ham on that stuff because now we're down ham on that stuff because now we're down into values, we're into cause and into values, we're into cause and into values, we're into cause and effect. Once you're at values and cause effect. Once you're at values and cause effect. Once you're at values and cause and effect, great. Part of what I think and effect, great. Part of what I think and effect, great. Part of what I think is valuable about this show is that you is valuable about this show is that you is valuable about this show is that you and I we overlap on values enough that and I we overlap on values enough that and I we overlap on values enough that um and I'll only speak for myself, I um and I'll only speak for myself, I um and I'll only speak for myself, I have tremendous respect for you. So, I have tremendous respect for you. So, I have tremendous respect for you. So, I like hearing the things that you think like hearing the things that you think like hearing the things that you think I'm wrong about. It helps me sharpen my I'm wrong about. It helps me sharpen my I'm wrong about. It helps me sharpen my own thinking. I'm never trying to own thinking. I'm never trying to own thinking. I'm never trying to convert you over to my value system convert you over to my value system convert you over to my value system because I think that you're an because I think that you're an because I think that you're an intelligent, well-intentioned person intelligent, well-intentioned person intelligent, well-intentioned person who's close enough to the middle that who's close enough to the middle that who's close enough to the middle that I'm like, yeah, if we had to hand over I'm like, yeah, if we had to hand over I'm like, yeah, if we had to hand over the country to you, you would 10 years the country to you, you would 10 years the country to you, you would 10 years from now, I would still recognize the from now, I would still recognize the from now, I would still recognize the country, still be stoked to live here. country, still be stoked to live here. country, still be stoked to live here. So, like that's the perfect kind of So, like that's the perfect kind of So, like that's the perfect kind of person that I want to debate with. person that I want to debate with. person that I want to debate with. Uh so, Uh so, Uh so, if as a if as a show we can bring that if as a if as a show we can bring that if as a if as a show we can bring that to people and show people, look, find to people and show people, look, find to people and show people, look, find out their base assumptions, figure out out their base assumptions, figure out out their base assumptions, figure out what they are. Do they have internal what they are. Do they have internal what they are. Do they have internal logic that coheres or not? If not, then logic that coheres or not? If not, then logic that coheres or not? If not, then you can say you're not making any sense. you can say you're not making any sense. you can say you're not making any sense. If yes, then it's like pull forward the If yes, then it's like pull forward the If yes, then it's like pull forward the base assumption where you collide and base assumption where you collide and base assumption where you collide and say, is this values or is this cause and say, is this values or is this cause and say, is this values or is this cause and effect? If it's cause and effect, then effect? If it's cause and effect, then effect? If it's cause and effect, then we can do a historical essay essentially we can do a historical essay essentially we can do a historical essay essentially and look backwards and go, okay, what and look backwards and go, okay, what and look backwards and go, okay, what would a historical audit of that belief would a historical audit of that belief would a historical audit of that belief tell us, right? Which is exactly what tell us, right? Which is exactly what tell us, right? Which is exactly what I'll do when we talk about Chevalier and I'll do when we talk about Chevalier and I'll do when we talk about Chevalier and Hassan. It's like, I'm just going to run Hassan. It's like, I'm just going to run Hassan. It's like, I'm just going to run a historical audit of their belief a historical audit of their belief a historical audit of their belief system and go, "Well, how does this system and go, "Well, how does this system and go, "Well, how does this [ __ ] play out?" And so, that's super [ __ ] play out?" And so, that's super [ __ ] play out?" And so, that's super fruitful. Everybody can make progress. fruitful. Everybody can make progress. fruitful. Everybody can make progress. You can find your way forward. So, from You can find your way forward. So, from You can find your way forward. So, from that perspective, this to me is a great that perspective, this to me is a great that perspective, this to me is a great example of you set out the base example of you set out the base example of you set out the base assumptions, and now you can go deep assumptions, and now you can go deep assumptions, and now you can go deep into those. With how long we've already into those. With how long we've already into those. With how long we've already talked about this, we won't be doing talked about this, we won't be doing talked about this, we won't be doing that today, but that today, but that today, but that I think is very that I think is very that I think is very >> thing I'm contractually obligated to >> thing I'm contractually obligated to >> thing I'm contractually obligated to say. say. say. Martin Luther King wasn't killed because Martin Luther King wasn't killed because Martin Luther King wasn't killed because he set black people free or gave them he set black people free or gave them he set black people free or gave them voting rights. Martin Luther King was voting rights. Martin Luther King was voting rights. Martin Luther King was killed because he started to talk about killed because he started to talk about killed because he started to talk about poor white people, poor gays, poor black poor white people, poor gays, poor black poor white people, poor gays, poor black people, and how we're all fighting the people, and how we're all fighting the people, and how we're all fighting the same thing. same thing. same thing. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Right now, we are talking about illegals >> Right now, we are talking about illegals >> Right now, we are talking about illegals that are quite possibly here. We don't that are quite possibly here. We don't that are quite possibly here. We don't have a number, we don't have a percent, have a number, we don't have a percent, have a number, we don't have a percent, we don't have data, we don't have we don't have data, we don't have we don't have data, we don't have anything to actually show it. All we anything to actually show it. All we anything to actually show it. All we have is Elon Musk retweets, we have have is Elon Musk retweets, we have have is Elon Musk retweets, we have boxes in the back of a van, and we have boxes in the back of a van, and we have boxes in the back of a van, and we have California and we have Spencer Pratt California and we have Spencer Pratt California and we have Spencer Pratt bitching on Twitter. bitching on Twitter. bitching on Twitter. >> So, here's >> So, here's >> So, here's >> actual people who can't afford houses. >> actual people who can't afford houses. >> actual people who can't afford houses. We have actual people who are on the We have actual people who are on the We have actual people who are on the streets. We have actual people who are streets. We have actual people who are streets. We have actual people who are working middle class. You work You have working middle class. You work You have working middle class. You work You have You and your girl both working, you got You and your girl both working, you got You and your girl both working, you got two kids, but you're stuck in an two kids, but you're stuck in an two kids, but you're stuck in an apartment. This bill will get you into a apartment. This bill will get you into a apartment. This bill will get you into a house. But no, because we have to stop house. But no, because we have to stop house. But no, because we have to stop this thing that we can't quantify, point this thing that we can't quantify, point this thing that we can't quantify, point out, talk about, or present. So, as much out, talk about, or present. So, as much out, talk about, or present. So, as much as I I am with everybody, I want as I I am with everybody, I want as I I am with everybody, I want everybody to thrive, I want everybody to everybody to thrive, I want everybody to everybody to thrive, I want everybody to have a good life, but please don't have a good life, but please don't have a good life, but please don't sacrifice your opportunity and your good sacrifice your opportunity and your good sacrifice your opportunity and your good life for the boogeyman that somebody life for the boogeyman that somebody life for the boogeyman that somebody else is telling you is coming and it's else is telling you is coming and it's else is telling you is coming and it's on its way and it's coming to take your on its way and it's coming to take your on its way and it's coming to take your stuff. Cuz you don't have stuff now. So, stuff. Cuz you don't have stuff now. So, stuff. Cuz you don't have stuff now. So, don't fall for the fact that they're don't fall for the fact that they're don't fall for the fact that they're coming to take your stuff. You don't coming to take your stuff. You don't coming to take your stuff. You don't have the stuff now. have the stuff now. have the stuff now. >> Okay. I'm contractually obligated to say >> Okay. I'm contractually obligated to say >> Okay. I'm contractually obligated to say the following. the following. the following. Please understand that your ability to Please understand that your ability to Please understand that your ability to accumulate wealth is on the other side accumulate wealth is on the other side accumulate wealth is on the other side of making sure that only citizens vote. of making sure that only citizens vote. of making sure that only citizens vote. And if you make the mistake of following And if you make the mistake of following And if you make the mistake of following allowing people that have an incentive allowing people that have an incentive allowing people that have an incentive structure to pillage your economy, you structure to pillage your economy, you structure to pillage your economy, you will find yourself being unable to will find yourself being unable to will find yourself being unable to afford anything. And so, if you want to afford anything. And so, if you want to afford anything. And so, if you want to see it all go to hell in a handbasket, see it all go to hell in a handbasket, see it all go to hell in a handbasket, then then then feel that because the economy is broken feel that because the economy is broken feel that because the economy is broken for a reason that has nothing to do with for a reason that has nothing to do with for a reason that has nothing to do with what we're talking about right now, what we're talking about right now, what we're talking about right now, uh that you're going to vote to let more uh that you're going to vote to let more uh that you're going to vote to let more people in, not understanding exactly how people in, not understanding exactly how people in, not understanding exactly how this going to play out from a cause and this going to play out from a cause and this going to play out from a cause and effect. Now, everything that you want, effect. Now, everything that you want, effect. Now, everything that you want, including affordable housing, is including affordable housing, is including affordable housing, is downstream of who you let vote and what downstream of who you let vote and what downstream of who you let vote and what their incentive uh for what they vote their incentive uh for what they vote their incentive uh for what they vote for, for, for, uh all of that is going to be determined uh all of that is going to be determined uh all of that is going to be determined by who ends up being able to cast a by who ends up being able to cast a by who ends up being able to cast a ballot. Okay. Uh with that, now to talk ballot. Okay. Uh with that, now to talk ballot. Okay. Uh with that, now to talk directly about affordable housing, I directly about affordable housing, I directly about affordable housing, I will say this, you have to fix will say this, you have to fix will say this, you have to fix affordable housing. If you don't, you're affordable housing. If you don't, you're affordable housing. If you don't, you're dead in the water. And so, if Trump is dead in the water. And so, if Trump is dead in the water. And so, if Trump is dumb enough to actually let this bill dumb enough to actually let this bill dumb enough to actually let this bill die, die, die, uh yeah, he's There's no universe in uh yeah, he's There's no universe in uh yeah, he's There's no universe in which he or anybody that's ever known which he or anybody that's ever known which he or anybody that's ever known him uh is going to get reelected. So, him uh is going to get reelected. So, him uh is going to get reelected. So, you have one of the biggest problems you have one of the biggest problems you have one of the biggest problems that you have right now is you have that you have right now is you have that you have right now is you have through through through banking and politicians deficit banking and politicians deficit banking and politicians deficit spending, you know the drill, you have spending, you know the drill, you have spending, you know the drill, you have made houses unaffordable because houses made houses unaffordable because houses made houses unaffordable because houses are an asset and they inflate like mad are an asset and they inflate like mad are an asset and they inflate like mad as you run the inflationary uh regime as you run the inflationary uh regime as you run the inflationary uh regime that we are running right now. But, that that we are running right now. But, that that we are running right now. But, that is a banker-politician problem. So, is a banker-politician problem. So, is a banker-politician problem. So, bankers-politicians have created a bankers-politicians have created a bankers-politicians have created a wealth siphon wealth siphon wealth siphon through which they steal wealth from through which they steal wealth from through which they steal wealth from everybody, the rich, the poor alike, but everybody, the rich, the poor alike, but everybody, the rich, the poor alike, but they only give back in a way that they only give back in a way that they only give back in a way that benefits people who understand assets. benefits people who understand assets. benefits people who understand assets. So, those people just get richer and So, those people just get richer and So, those people just get richer and richer. richer. richer. Okay. So, given that, what do you have Okay. So, given that, what do you have Okay. So, given that, what do you have to do to solve the housing affordability to do to solve the housing affordability to do to solve the housing affordability problem? Is it that you freeze rents problem? Is it that you freeze rents problem? Is it that you freeze rents like they have done in New York? And I like they have done in New York? And I like they have done in New York? And I will say, if that's your hypothesis, will say, if that's your hypothesis, will say, if that's your hypothesis, every hypothesis makes a prediction. So, every hypothesis makes a prediction. So, every hypothesis makes a prediction. So, if you think freezing rents is actually if you think freezing rents is actually if you think freezing rents is actually going to make rents cheaper, then I going to make rents cheaper, then I going to make rents cheaper, then I would say, do a historical survey and would say, do a historical survey and would say, do a historical survey and see if that ended up being true. Where see if that ended up being true. Where see if that ended up being true. Where rents were frozen, did rents get cheaper rents were frozen, did rents get cheaper rents were frozen, did rents get cheaper or did they go up? And the answer is, or did they go up? And the answer is, or did they go up? And the answer is, this experiment was actually run in New this experiment was actually run in New this experiment was actually run in New York in the '60s and '70s. And what York in the '60s and '70s. And what York in the '60s and '70s. And what ended up happening was the Bronx turned ended up happening was the Bronx turned ended up happening was the Bronx turned into a third world country where the into a third world country where the into a third world country where the building owners building owners building owners burned the buildings down because it was burned the buildings down because it was burned the buildings down because it was easier to get the insurance money than easier to get the insurance money than easier to get the insurance money than to try to upkeep the building because to try to upkeep the building because to try to upkeep the building because buildings are a business. And once you buildings are a business. And once you buildings are a business. And once you try to control prices, remember the try to control prices, remember the try to control prices, remember the president of Cuba just admitted trying president of Cuba just admitted trying president of Cuba just admitted trying to control prices from the top doesn't to control prices from the top doesn't to control prices from the top doesn't work. It's ends up creating shortages, work. It's ends up creating shortages, work. It's ends up creating shortages, okay? Somehow people think because okay? Somehow people think because okay? Somehow people think because housing is a {quote} {unquote} right housing is a {quote} {unquote} right housing is a {quote} {unquote} right right, which is already absurd, but they right, which is already absurd, but they right, which is already absurd, but they think that it's not a business somehow. think that it's not a business somehow. think that it's not a business somehow. It is a business. And so it requires all It is a business. And so it requires all It is a business. And so it requires all kinds of upkeep, which costs all kinds kinds of upkeep, which costs all kinds kinds of upkeep, which costs all kinds of money because nobody works for free of money because nobody works for free of money because nobody works for free and you're just as impacted by inflation and you're just as impacted by inflation and you're just as impacted by inflation and things like that as anybody else. So and things like that as anybody else. So and things like that as anybody else. So as you're running your business of as you're running your business of as you're running your business of owning a building, you've got to be able owning a building, you've got to be able owning a building, you've got to be able to do what you think is right to keep to do what you think is right to keep to do what you think is right to keep that business afloat. And if you're not that business afloat. And if you're not that business afloat. And if you're not good at the business of running the good at the business of running the good at the business of running the building, then you will go broke, you building, then you will go broke, you building, then you will go broke, you will lose the building, and somebody will lose the building, and somebody will lose the building, and somebody else will get it. So else will get it. So else will get it. So when we ran this experiment in the very when we ran this experiment in the very when we ran this experiment in the very city that's trying to run it now, the city that's trying to run it now, the city that's trying to run it now, the the result was so catastrophic the result was so catastrophic the result was so catastrophic that whatever 20 years later, they that whatever 20 years later, they that whatever 20 years later, they unwound virtually all of it. unwound virtually all of it. unwound virtually all of it. So we see this play out time and time So we see this play out time and time So we see this play out time and time again. Freezing rents is stupid. It is again. Freezing rents is stupid. It is again. Freezing rents is stupid. It is exactly the same as trying to control exactly the same as trying to control exactly the same as trying to control the prices at the grocery store or as the prices at the grocery store or as the prices at the grocery store or as Trump is trying to do now at the gas Trump is trying to do now at the gas Trump is trying to do now at the gas pump. It's completely asinine. It pump. It's completely asinine. It pump. It's completely asinine. It doesn't work. History is abundantly doesn't work. History is abundantly doesn't work. History is abundantly clear on this. What you do need to do is clear on this. What you do need to do is clear on this. What you do need to do is build. Now, that's why I'm excited about build. Now, that's why I'm excited about build. Now, that's why I'm excited about the very imperfect the very imperfect the very imperfect bill that's being put forward that is bill that's being put forward that is bill that's being put forward that is far far far better than what we have far far far better than what we have far far far better than what we have now. So if you really want to help now. So if you really want to help now. So if you really want to help people and you really want to make people and you really want to make people and you really want to make housing affordable, the only question housing affordable, the only question housing affordable, the only question you have to ask is you have to ask is you have to ask is do you let landlords charge whatever do you let landlords charge whatever do you let landlords charge whatever they think is right so that we're not they think is right so that we're not they think is right so that we're not freezing rents and making things worse. freezing rents and making things worse. freezing rents and making things worse. And do you let people build build build And do you let people build build build And do you let people build build build build build because what you need is build build because what you need is build build because what you need is more inventory. Once you have more more inventory. Once you have more more inventory. Once you have more inventory, then all of the sudden the inventory, then all of the sudden the inventory, then all of the sudden the prices come down. It really is, I know prices come down. It really is, I know prices come down. It really is, I know that this is one of those things that's that this is one of those things that's that this is one of those things that's so simple that people lose sight of it. so simple that people lose sight of it. so simple that people lose sight of it. It is just supply and demand. And so, if It is just supply and demand. And so, if It is just supply and demand. And so, if you artificially limit supply, which you you artificially limit supply, which you you artificially limit supply, which you do through rent freezes, rent controls, do through rent freezes, rent controls, do through rent freezes, rent controls, et cetera, et cetera, the prices don't et cetera, et cetera, the prices don't et cetera, et cetera, the prices don't go down, they go up. Fewer people can go down, they go up. Fewer people can go down, they go up. Fewer people can actually cuz you can just keep the actually cuz you can just keep the actually cuz you can just keep the price. Let's say you just keep the price. Let's say you just keep the price. Let's say you just keep the price. Cool. Then you create a black price. Cool. Then you create a black price. Cool. Then you create a black market, and so people will start market, and so people will start market, and so people will start subletting and things like that to try subletting and things like that to try subletting and things like that to try to turn a profit. They're not supposed to turn a profit. They're not supposed to turn a profit. They're not supposed to, it's illegal, but they'll do it to, it's illegal, but they'll do it to, it's illegal, but they'll do it anyway, which we see over and over and anyway, which we see over and over and anyway, which we see over and over and over, because that property becomes so over, because that property becomes so over, because that property becomes so much more valuable because the supply is much more valuable because the supply is much more valuable because the supply is artificially constrained because the artificially constrained because the artificially constrained because the business owners can't make money and or business owners can't make money and or business owners can't make money and or they're not even allowed to build. And they're not even allowed to build. And they're not even allowed to build. And so, now you're in a position where so, now you're in a position where so, now you're in a position where you've disincentivized investment you've disincentivized investment you've disincentivized investment because they know that you'll put them because they know that you'll put them because they know that you'll put them in a trap where they can't afford to run in a trap where they can't afford to run in a trap where they can't afford to run that business of owning the building. that business of owning the building. that business of owning the building. And you put them in a position where And you put them in a position where And you put them in a position where uh they don't want to build because they uh they don't want to build because they uh they don't want to build because they don't want to end up in that state. If don't want to end up in that state. If don't want to end up in that state. If they do end up in that state, they can't they do end up in that state, they can't they do end up in that state, they can't take care of the building anyway. And in take care of the building anyway. And in take care of the building anyway. And in New York right now, they're threatening New York right now, they're threatening New York right now, they're threatening to confiscate the buildings if people to confiscate the buildings if people to confiscate the buildings if people can't uh upkeep them to the level that can't uh upkeep them to the level that can't uh upkeep them to the level that they decide. So, it's complete and utter they decide. So, it's complete and utter they decide. So, it's complete and utter madness. madness. madness. And that's why I'm saying all of this And that's why I'm saying all of this And that's why I'm saying all of this stuff is downstream of what you vote stuff is downstream of what you vote stuff is downstream of what you vote for. for. for. So, be very careful what you vote for. So, be very careful what you vote for. So, be very careful what you vote for. >> Can I also clarify so my chat my ass >> Can I also clarify so my chat my ass >> Can I also clarify so my chat my ass doesn't get eaten up in the comments, my doesn't get eaten up in the comments, my doesn't get eaten up in the comments, my stance? I was including title 42 stance? I was including title 42 stance? I was including title 42 expulsions, chat. expulsions, chat. expulsions, chat. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> In in my argument. If we're just talking >> In in my argument. If we're just talking >> In in my argument. If we're just talking pure deportation with actual legal pure deportation with actual legal pure deportation with actual legal crime, like yes, that Biden era is crime, like yes, that Biden era is crime, like yes, that Biden era is lower. But I included title 42 because lower. But I included title 42 because lower. But I included title 42 because Trump enacted it and Biden carried it on Trump enacted it and Biden carried it on Trump enacted it and Biden carried it on until he had to rerun and wanted to look until he had to rerun and wanted to look until he had to rerun and wanted to look better for the left. better for the left. better for the left. That was my claim. That was my claim. That was my claim. But just to clarify for the chat. Are we But just to clarify for the chat. Are we But just to clarify for the chat. Are we hitting the Supreme Court or is that hitting the Supreme Court or is that hitting the Supreme Court or is that getting cut for time and we can move on? getting cut for time and we can move on? getting cut for time and we can move on? >> Nah, let's go. >> Nah, let's go. >> Nah, let's go. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Uh all right. >> Uh all right. >> Uh all right. >> No, do you You to do super chats first >> No, do you You to do super chats first >> No, do you You to do super chats first or what? or what? or what? >> Um I'll come back to super chat. Super >> Um I'll come back to super chat. Super >> Um I'll come back to super chat. Super chats, I love you guys. We'll be here chats, I love you guys. We'll be here chats, I love you guys. We'll be here for a third hour. Hang out. for a third hour. Hang out. for a third hour. Hang out. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Uh, okay, there has been um, four >> Uh, okay, there has been um, four >> Uh, okay, there has been um, four Supreme Court decisions that have been Supreme Court decisions that have been Supreme Court decisions that have been passed down. Um, this is from The Midas passed down. Um, this is from The Midas passed down. Um, this is from The Midas Touch. They just listed them all out one Touch. They just listed them all out one Touch. They just listed them all out one by one. Um, by one. Um, by one. Um, number one, Monsanto versus Donnell. The number one, Monsanto versus Donnell. The number one, Monsanto versus Donnell. The court ruled that Monsanto was shielded court ruled that Monsanto was shielded court ruled that Monsanto was shielded from cancer victims suing over Roundup. from cancer victims suing over Roundup. from cancer victims suing over Roundup. Federal pesticide laws block states from Federal pesticide laws block states from Federal pesticide laws block states from requiring cancer warnings on label. requiring cancer warnings on label. requiring cancer warnings on label. Uh, number two, Wilford versus Lopez. Uh, number two, Wilford versus Lopez. Uh, number two, Wilford versus Lopez. The court struck down Hawaii's law The court struck down Hawaii's law The court struck down Hawaii's law requiring permission to bring guns into requiring permission to bring guns into requiring permission to bring guns into private property that is open to the private property that is open to the private property that is open to the public like stores, restaurants, and public like stores, restaurants, and public like stores, restaurants, and hotels. Number three, Mullen versus Al hotels. Number three, Mullen versus Al hotels. Number three, Mullen versus Al Otro Lado. Asylum seekers stopped at the Otro Lado. Asylum seekers stopped at the Otro Lado. Asylum seekers stopped at the border are turned back in Mexico. The border are turned back in Mexico. The border are turned back in Mexico. The court says you haven't arrived in court says you haven't arrived in court says you haven't arrived in America yet, so no right to apply for America yet, so no right to apply for America yet, so no right to apply for asylum. This was the thing I was talking asylum. This was the thing I was talking asylum. This was the thing I was talking about earlier. And number four, Mullen about earlier. And number four, Mullen about earlier. And number four, Mullen versus Doe. The conservative majority versus Doe. The conservative majority versus Doe. The conservative majority ruled that the Trump administration can ruled that the Trump administration can ruled that the Trump administration can end temporary protected statuses for end temporary protected statuses for end temporary protected statuses for migrants fleeing violence and natural migrants fleeing violence and natural migrants fleeing violence and natural disasters in Haiti and Syria. These were disasters in Haiti and Syria. These were disasters in Haiti and Syria. These were the people that had that downloaded the the people that had that downloaded the the people that had that downloaded the app that wanted to come over. app that wanted to come over. app that wanted to come over. >> And you're saying they it's unfair that >> And you're saying they it's unfair that >> And you're saying they it's unfair that they get grabbed when they did things they get grabbed when they did things they get grabbed when they did things the right way. the right way. the right way. >> I did I did not say that. No. >> I did I did not say that. No. >> I did I did not say that. No. >> No, no. So, what do you mean by these >> No, no. So, what do you mean by these >> No, no. So, what do you mean by these are the guys that downloaded the app? are the guys that downloaded the app? are the guys that downloaded the app? >> The TPS status is connected to the app >> The TPS status is connected to the app >> The TPS status is connected to the app when they were when they were when they were >> Then why bring up the app? There's a >> Then why bring up the app? There's a >> Then why bring up the app? There's a reason you made those sounds. reason you made those sounds. reason you made those sounds. >> The app is to people that to deduce >> The app is to people that to deduce >> The app is to people that to deduce between who's an illegal alien who between who's an illegal alien who between who's an illegal alien who crossed the border and what this crossed the border and what this crossed the border and what this temporary protected status means. temporary protected status means. temporary protected status means. Cuz for temporary protected status, you Cuz for temporary protected status, you Cuz for temporary protected status, you have to apply, you download the app. have to apply, you download the app. have to apply, you download the app. Those are the people that came over. No, Those are the people that came over. No, Those are the people that came over. No, it all is it all is it all is >> I'm just uh, uh, >> I'm just uh, uh, >> I'm just uh, uh, my base assumption is that you brought my base assumption is that you brought my base assumption is that you brought that up for a specific reason to make a that up for a specific reason to make a that up for a specific reason to make a point that these guys are in a different point that these guys are in a different point that these guys are in a different class. If it was purely meant as class. If it was purely meant as class. If it was purely meant as >> Um, trust me, Brian. I'm not trying to >> Um, trust me, Brian. I'm not trying to >> Um, trust me, Brian. I'm not trying to get you. get you. get you. >> No, no. I don't think that's any of me >> No, no. I don't think that's any of me >> No, no. I don't think that's any of me at all. at all. at all. >> yeah. I wasn't trying to yeah. >> yeah. I wasn't trying to yeah. >> yeah. I wasn't trying to yeah. >> So, it I I have a base assumption. >> So, it I I have a base assumption. >> So, it I I have a base assumption. People make sounds with their mouth People make sounds with their mouth People make sounds with their mouth specifically to communicate something. I specifically to communicate something. I specifically to communicate something. I find that they sometimes don't know why find that they sometimes don't know why find that they sometimes don't know why they're making those sounds to they're making those sounds to they're making those sounds to communicate it. communicate it. communicate it. Um, it's entirely possible that I'm Um, it's entirely possible that I'm Um, it's entirely possible that I'm reading you wrong, but here's um reading you wrong, but here's um reading you wrong, but here's um doesn't matter. Cool. Misunderstood. doesn't matter. Cool. Misunderstood. doesn't matter. Cool. Misunderstood. Here here is um what I will say about Here here is um what I will say about Here here is um what I will say about temporary protected status is obviously temporary protected status is obviously temporary protected status is obviously it is inherently temporary. So, if it it is inherently temporary. So, if it it is inherently temporary. So, if it was meant to be a this is temporary was meant to be a this is temporary was meant to be a this is temporary because we expect 100% of you to be because we expect 100% of you to be because we expect 100% of you to be migrated over to full-time status, migrated over to full-time status, migrated over to full-time status, then I would get why people feel then I would get why people feel then I would get why people feel betrayed. I don't know enough about the betrayed. I don't know enough about the betrayed. I don't know enough about the actual definition of what TPS is actual definition of what TPS is actual definition of what TPS is designed for, designed for, designed for, um but clearly it is not meant to be a um but clearly it is not meant to be a um but clearly it is not meant to be a permanent status. So, if this is the permanent status. So, if this is the permanent status. So, if this is the Supreme Court ruling that hey, Supreme Court ruling that hey, Supreme Court ruling that hey, regardless of what you originally wanted regardless of what you originally wanted regardless of what you originally wanted TPS to be, this is something that should TPS to be, this is something that should TPS to be, this is something that should be given back to the executive branch. be given back to the executive branch. be given back to the executive branch. It is meant to be temporary and so It is meant to be temporary and so It is meant to be temporary and so anybody that comes in on TPS, they're anybody that comes in on TPS, they're anybody that comes in on TPS, they're going to be eventually handed to the going to be eventually handed to the going to be eventually handed to the executive branch for them to make a executive branch for them to make a executive branch for them to make a decision about. Cool. That is exactly decision about. Cool. That is exactly decision about. Cool. That is exactly what we put the uh Supreme Court in what we put the uh Supreme Court in what we put the uh Supreme Court in place to do. Um so, that one I have no place to do. Um so, that one I have no place to do. Um so, that one I have no beef with. Now, the Monsanto one is beef with. Now, the Monsanto one is beef with. Now, the Monsanto one is horrifying. And so, I yeah, I think this horrifying. And so, I yeah, I think this horrifying. And so, I yeah, I think this is bad. And what's crazy is I think the is bad. And what's crazy is I think the is bad. And what's crazy is I think the Trump administration uh under uh Kennedy Trump administration uh under uh Kennedy Trump administration uh under uh Kennedy would be the first to admit that you would be the first to admit that you would be the first to admit that you want vaccine makers to be able to be want vaccine makers to be able to be want vaccine makers to be able to be sued for creating health problems. So, sued for creating health problems. So, sued for creating health problems. So, why the actual [ __ ] would you not be why the actual [ __ ] would you not be why the actual [ __ ] would you not be consistent and say, "Yeah, you can't consistent and say, "Yeah, you can't consistent and say, "Yeah, you can't have people using chemicals that have people using chemicals that have people using chemicals that knowingly cause cancer." And if you're knowingly cause cancer." And if you're knowingly cause cancer." And if you're saying like let's be the most charitable saying like let's be the most charitable saying like let's be the most charitable that we can be. I do not think this is that we can be. I do not think this is that we can be. I do not think this is true, but just being psychotically true, but just being psychotically true, but just being psychotically charitable. If you're like, "We won't be charitable. If you're like, "We won't be charitable. If you're like, "We won't be able to produce enough food to have able to produce enough food to have able to produce enough food to have caloric security for our population caloric security for our population caloric security for our population unless we use this thing that is a slow, unless we use this thing that is a slow, unless we use this thing that is a slow, long-term carcinogenic." long-term carcinogenic." long-term carcinogenic." Uh so, yeah, we just can't have people Uh so, yeah, we just can't have people Uh so, yeah, we just can't have people suing because this is the only way to suing because this is the only way to suing because this is the only way to support this population. That would be support this population. That would be support this population. That would be like the only plausible argument. But like the only plausible argument. But like the only plausible argument. But even then, I think you have a moral even then, I think you have a moral even then, I think you have a moral obligation to say, "Hey, we're going to obligation to say, "Hey, we're going to obligation to say, "Hey, we're going to use it, but the cancer uh warning is use it, but the cancer uh warning is use it, but the cancer uh warning is like the biggest thing on the bag." Much like the biggest thing on the bag." Much like the biggest thing on the bag." Much like with smoking, where you can't look like with smoking, where you can't look like with smoking, where you can't look at a [ __ ] pack of smokes without at a [ __ ] pack of smokes without at a [ __ ] pack of smokes without seeing like a black lung, right? So, seeing like a black lung, right? So, seeing like a black lung, right? So, yes, because I don't want somebody who's yes, because I don't want somebody who's yes, because I don't want somebody who's working on a farm to not realize that working on a farm to not realize that working on a farm to not realize that this thing is cancer-causing. I want this thing is cancer-causing. I want this thing is cancer-causing. I want them to be able to take all kinds of them to be able to take all kinds of them to be able to take all kinds of precautions, up to and including going precautions, up to and including going precautions, up to and including going to their employer and saying, "If you to their employer and saying, "If you to their employer and saying, "If you don't give me one of those radioactive don't give me one of those radioactive don't give me one of those radioactive jump suits every time I'm out in the jump suits every time I'm out in the jump suits every time I'm out in the field, you can [ __ ] right off." Yeah, field, you can [ __ ] right off." Yeah, field, you can [ __ ] right off." Yeah, I'd be all for that. Dope, love it. So, I'd be all for that. Dope, love it. So, I'd be all for that. Dope, love it. So, um on this, I think it's crazy. You um on this, I think it's crazy. You um on this, I think it's crazy. You should be able to sue, because again, should be able to sue, because again, should be able to sue, because again, that was me being obscenely charitable. that was me being obscenely charitable. that was me being obscenely charitable. I think the reality is this is just the I think the reality is this is just the I think the reality is this is just the uh big ag or whatever we're going to uh big ag or whatever we're going to uh big ag or whatever we're going to call Monsanto call Monsanto call Monsanto having the political capital and dollars having the political capital and dollars having the political capital and dollars to be able to get people to go, "Yeah, to be able to get people to go, "Yeah, to be able to get people to go, "Yeah, no, that makes sense. Cool. Don't tell no, that makes sense. Cool. Don't tell no, that makes sense. Cool. Don't tell anybody that this is anybody that this is anybody that this is uh a carcinogen. Just keep putting it on uh a carcinogen. Just keep putting it on uh a carcinogen. Just keep putting it on everything." Uh I think it's a terrible everything." Uh I think it's a terrible everything." Uh I think it's a terrible [ __ ] idea. And it's stuff like this. [ __ ] idea. And it's stuff like this. [ __ ] idea. And it's stuff like this. I I just There's no way that Kennedy uh I I just There's no way that Kennedy uh I I just There's no way that Kennedy uh is on board with this. So, I'd be very is on board with this. So, I'd be very is on board with this. So, I'd be very curious to hear the internal curious to hear the internal curious to hear the internal uh machinations of like what that's uh machinations of like what that's uh machinations of like what that's like. But anyway, that one seems stupid. like. But anyway, that one seems stupid. like. But anyway, that one seems stupid. I don't know what the um the actual I don't know what the um the actual I don't know what the um the actual angle. I'd have to read the Supreme angle. I'd have to read the Supreme angle. I'd have to read the Supreme Court decision to see what they're Court decision to see what they're Court decision to see what they're queuing off of. queuing off of. queuing off of. Uh but yeah, on that one, I think people Uh but yeah, on that one, I think people Uh but yeah, on that one, I think people should be able to sue. should be able to sue. should be able to sue. >> This is from Thomas Massie. Uh this is >> This is from Thomas Massie. Uh this is >> This is from Thomas Massie. Uh this is correct. I attended the Supreme Court correct. I attended the Supreme Court correct. I attended the Supreme Court arguments. Trump's DOJ argued alongside arguments. Trump's DOJ argued alongside arguments. Trump's DOJ argued alongside Bayer and Monsanto that because the EPA Bayer and Monsanto that because the EPA Bayer and Monsanto that because the EPA has already blessed gl- gl- glyphosate has already blessed gl- gl- glyphosate has already blessed gl- gl- glyphosate glyphosate, no state government could glyphosate, no state government could glyphosate, no state government could require labels disclosing cancer risk. require labels disclosing cancer risk. require labels disclosing cancer risk. The EPA and DOJ in this instance was The EPA and DOJ in this instance was The EPA and DOJ in this instance was only there to protect Bayer. only there to protect Bayer. only there to protect Bayer. And they He retweeted somebody that was And they He retweeted somebody that was And they He retweeted somebody that was MW4 Liberty. "Today's ruling in favor of MW4 Liberty. "Today's ruling in favor of MW4 Liberty. "Today's ruling in favor of Monsanto proves that I what I've said Monsanto proves that I what I've said Monsanto proves that I what I've said for a long time. Government agencies for a long time. Government agencies for a long time. Government agencies don't protect citizens from large don't protect citizens from large don't protect citizens from large corporations, rather they protect large corporations, rather they protect large corporations, rather they protect large corporations from citizens. Our corporations from citizens. Our corporations from citizens. Our government is illegitimate, and no, your government is illegitimate, and no, your government is illegitimate, and no, your side is not going to fix it. side is not going to fix it. side is not going to fix it. >> I definitely agree with their lessons. >> I definitely agree with their lessons. >> I definitely agree with their lessons. So, here here is the bad news. So, here here is the bad news. So, here here is the bad news. Government itself is Government itself is Government itself is I mean this as an analogy I mean this as an analogy I mean this as an analogy that by its truth will be an indictment, that by its truth will be an indictment, that by its truth will be an indictment, but the out of context phrase I'm about but the out of context phrase I'm about but the out of context phrase I'm about to say is going to seem like I'm trying to say is going to seem like I'm trying to say is going to seem like I'm trying to be provocative. I'm not trying to be to be provocative. I'm not trying to be to be provocative. I'm not trying to be provocative with what I'm about to say. provocative with what I'm about to say. provocative with what I'm about to say. I'm trying to draw parallel to something I'm trying to draw parallel to something I'm trying to draw parallel to something else that behaves in a similar fashion. else that behaves in a similar fashion. else that behaves in a similar fashion. The government is like a cancer. The government is like a cancer. The government is like a cancer. The cancer The cancer The cancer quickly realizes it needs to pull all quickly realizes it needs to pull all quickly realizes it needs to pull all resources to itself. This is how cancer resources to itself. This is how cancer resources to itself. This is how cancer actually works. actually works. actually works. And then it tries to wall itself off And then it tries to wall itself off And then it tries to wall itself off through literal molecular signaling to through literal molecular signaling to through literal molecular signaling to tell the immune system, you dear voters, tell the immune system, you dear voters, tell the immune system, you dear voters, "I'm not the problem. Ignore me, move on "I'm not the problem. Ignore me, move on "I'm not the problem. Ignore me, move on to the next guy." to the next guy." to the next guy." And then it will often like build a And then it will often like build a And then it will often like build a capsule around itself so that the immune capsule around itself so that the immune capsule around itself so that the immune system can't get in and kill it, which system can't get in and kill it, which system can't get in and kill it, which is precisely what it's meant to do. So, is precisely what it's meant to do. So, is precisely what it's meant to do. So, the cancer pulls blood vessels to it, the cancer pulls blood vessels to it, the cancer pulls blood vessels to it, encapsulates itself, signals that encapsulates itself, signals that encapsulates itself, signals that everything is fine, and tries to grow as everything is fine, and tries to grow as everything is fine, and tries to grow as big as it can. And the very mechanism big as it can. And the very mechanism big as it can. And the very mechanism that makes it cancer is that the cells that makes it cancer is that the cells that makes it cancer is that the cells no longer have a self-destruct no longer have a self-destruct no longer have a self-destruct mechanism. So, every cancerous cell mechanism. So, every cancerous cell mechanism. So, every cancerous cell should detect, "Oh [ __ ] I'm cancer." should detect, "Oh [ __ ] I'm cancer." should detect, "Oh [ __ ] I'm cancer." and self-destruct, blow apart. That's and self-destruct, blow apart. That's and self-destruct, blow apart. That's how it's programmed. This is how you how it's programmed. This is how you how it's programmed. This is how you live and, you know, for as many times as live and, you know, for as many times as live and, you know, for as many times as your cells divide, your cells divide, your cells divide, most people don't get cancer until most people don't get cancer until most people don't get cancer until they're very, very old. So, it's really they're very, very old. So, it's really they're very, very old. So, it's really the body has extraordinary ways of the body has extraordinary ways of the body has extraordinary ways of dealing with this. And one of the scary, dealing with this. And one of the scary, dealing with this. And one of the scary, but sort of fascinating things about but sort of fascinating things about but sort of fascinating things about human biology is all of us have a tiny human biology is all of us have a tiny human biology is all of us have a tiny bit of cancer in us all the time. But bit of cancer in us all the time. But bit of cancer in us all the time. But the immune system tracks it down and the immune system tracks it down and the immune system tracks it down and kills it. So, kills it. So, kills it. So, when the cancer gets to the point where when the cancer gets to the point where when the cancer gets to the point where it no longer has a self-regulating it no longer has a self-regulating it no longer has a self-regulating mechanism mechanism mechanism to stay small, and it hides and to stay small, and it hides and to stay small, and it hides and obfuscates and lies to the immune obfuscates and lies to the immune obfuscates and lies to the immune system, pulls resources to itself and system, pulls resources to itself and system, pulls resources to itself and grows and grows and grows, that's when grows and grows and grows, that's when grows and grows and grows, that's when it becomes a problem. We are officially it becomes a problem. We are officially it becomes a problem. We are officially in that stage where the government is in that stage where the government is in that stage where the government is simply trying to get as big as it can simply trying to get as big as it can simply trying to get as big as it can for the sake of getting bigger, where for the sake of getting bigger, where for the sake of getting bigger, where you had Biden presenting all the jobs you had Biden presenting all the jobs you had Biden presenting all the jobs that they had hired people into the that they had hired people into the that they had hired people into the government for as if that was somehow a government for as if that was somehow a government for as if that was somehow a win, even though the government um does win, even though the government um does win, even though the government um does not generate revenue, it only spends. not generate revenue, it only spends. not generate revenue, it only spends. But the wild thing is the dumb way that But the wild thing is the dumb way that But the wild thing is the dumb way that we count GDP, that actually gets we count GDP, that actually gets we count GDP, that actually gets counted. not. counted. not. counted. not. But nonetheless, so we're that's where But nonetheless, so we're that's where But nonetheless, so we're that's where we're at. Now, my whole thesis is people we're at. Now, my whole thesis is people we're at. Now, my whole thesis is people are confusing this moment where the are confusing this moment where the are confusing this moment where the government has truly become government has truly become government has truly become definitionally cancerous. Again, not definitionally cancerous. Again, not definitionally cancerous. Again, not trying to be provocative, trying to use trying to be provocative, trying to use trying to be provocative, trying to use an analogy of what it's doing. It has an analogy of what it's doing. It has an analogy of what it's doing. It has become cancerous where it's grow at all become cancerous where it's grow at all become cancerous where it's grow at all costs, get as big as you can, pull as costs, get as big as you can, pull as costs, get as big as you can, pull as many resources in as you can. There's many resources in as you can. There's many resources in as you can. There's never too much tax dollars, just more, never too much tax dollars, just more, never too much tax dollars, just more, more, more. more, more. more, more. Uh and we're confusing that with Uh and we're confusing that with Uh and we're confusing that with free market capitalism is broken. free market capitalism is broken. free market capitalism is broken. But you've got Trump breaking free But you've got Trump breaking free But you've got Trump breaking free market capitalism in his way. Thomas market capitalism in his way. Thomas market capitalism in his way. Thomas Massie had another banger uh accusing Massie had another banger uh accusing Massie had another banger uh accusing Trump of communism. Trump of communism. Trump of communism. >> Suited up. >> Suited up. >> Suited up. >> Very accurate. That's the terrifying >> Very accurate. That's the terrifying >> Very accurate. That's the terrifying part. Uh so, if we cannot recognize that part. Uh so, if we cannot recognize that part. Uh so, if we cannot recognize that the government behaves in the same way the government behaves in the same way the government behaves in the same way that a cancer behaves, and that's why that a cancer behaves, and that's why that a cancer behaves, and that's why when people vote for bigger government, when people vote for bigger government, when people vote for bigger government, more services, I'm going to have a more services, I'm going to have a more services, I'm going to have a knee-jerk reaction that it's a terrible knee-jerk reaction that it's a terrible knee-jerk reaction that it's a terrible idea. I don't care if it's coming from idea. I don't care if it's coming from idea. I don't care if it's coming from the right or from the left. Because the the right or from the left. Because the the right or from the left. Because the very thing that America is getting sick very thing that America is getting sick very thing that America is getting sick from is that cancer. So, we're confusing from is that cancer. So, we're confusing from is that cancer. So, we're confusing it with something else as people often it with something else as people often it with something else as people often do. They don't realize that the thing do. They don't realize that the thing do. They don't realize that the thing that's making their back hurt is that's making their back hurt is that's making their back hurt is actually lung cancer. Um they're actually lung cancer. Um they're actually lung cancer. Um they're completely confused by it until it's far completely confused by it until it's far completely confused by it until it's far too late. And so, that's the phase of too late. And so, that's the phase of too late. And so, that's the phase of America that we're in. Now, there are America that we're in. Now, there are America that we're in. Now, there are treatments that can cure us from that treatments that can cure us from that treatments that can cure us from that cancer, but boy, oh boy, people instead cancer, but boy, oh boy, people instead cancer, but boy, oh boy, people instead want to drink apple juice like my man want to drink apple juice like my man want to drink apple juice like my man Steve Jobs and they just [ __ ] die. Steve Jobs and they just [ __ ] die. Steve Jobs and they just [ __ ] die. So, So, So, unfortunately, that's the path that unfortunately, that's the path that unfortunately, that's the path that we're choosing to take right now. We we're choosing to take right now. We we're choosing to take right now. We don't have to and hopefully there's don't have to and hopefully there's don't have to and hopefully there's intervention, there's plenty of time and intervention, there's plenty of time and intervention, there's plenty of time and we can all back us off. we can all back us off. we can all back us off. Uh but currently we're not. So, with Uh but currently we're not. So, with Uh but currently we're not. So, with that Thomas Massie, take it away. that Thomas Massie, take it away. that Thomas Massie, take it away. >> Republicans decrying communist >> Republicans decrying communist >> Republicans decrying communist involvement in the Democratic Party just involvement in the Democratic Party just involvement in the Democratic Party just look the other way when this look the other way when this look the other way when this administration nationalized ownership of administration nationalized ownership of administration nationalized ownership of these private companies. Intel 10%, MP these private companies. Intel 10%, MP these private companies. Intel 10%, MP Materials 15%, Lithium Americas 5%, Materials 15%, Lithium Americas 5%, Materials 15%, Lithium Americas 5%, Trilogy Metals 10%, and US D.O. {quote} Trilogy Metals 10%, and US D.O. {quote} Trilogy Metals 10%, and US D.O. {quote} "golden share". "golden share". "golden share". >> Yep, this is all obscene. >> Yep, this is all obscene. >> Yep, this is all obscene. Now, here's where this one gets super Now, here's where this one gets super Now, here's where this one gets super [ __ ] weird. So, let me be very clear. [ __ ] weird. So, let me be very clear. [ __ ] weird. So, let me be very clear. This is obscene. This is obscene. This is obscene. Trump should not do this. Trump should not do this. Trump should not do this. This is This is This is the American economy with Chinese the American economy with Chinese the American economy with Chinese characteristics. characteristics. characteristics. And I say that a little tongue-in-cheek, And I say that a little tongue-in-cheek, And I say that a little tongue-in-cheek, but it's literally but it's literally but it's literally the American economy with Chinese the American economy with Chinese the American economy with Chinese characteristics. Uh this is Trump characteristics. Uh this is Trump characteristics. Uh this is Trump saying, saying, saying, "You know what? The government should "You know what? The government should "You know what? The government should really be involved uh with keeping these really be involved uh with keeping these really be involved uh with keeping these companies going. And you know, let's companies going. And you know, let's companies going. And you know, let's make sure that the American people make sure that the American people make sure that the American people benefit from it." benefit from it." benefit from it." And so we're going to give them a piece. And so we're going to give them a piece. And so we're going to give them a piece. Now, at a high level, that sounds Now, at a high level, that sounds Now, at a high level, that sounds lovely. The American people should lovely. The American people should lovely. The American people should benefit from the companies that we're benefit from the companies that we're benefit from the companies that we're building, building, building, uh especially in a time where people are uh especially in a time where people are uh especially in a time where people are not able to make ends meet because of not able to make ends meet because of not able to make ends meet because of the hideous banking and politician um the hideous banking and politician um the hideous banking and politician um cabal that is here to destroy middle cabal that is here to destroy middle cabal that is here to destroy middle America um and anybody that doesn't own America um and anybody that doesn't own America um and anybody that doesn't own assets. So, assets. So, assets. So, all of that is just patently ridiculous. all of that is just patently ridiculous. all of that is just patently ridiculous. We should not want him to do that. We should not want him to do that. We should not want him to do that. We should vote him out of office for We should vote him out of office for We should vote him out of office for doing it. We should not elect people doing it. We should not elect people doing it. We should not elect people that want to do it. that want to do it. that want to do it. Now, having said all of that, there's a Now, having said all of that, there's a Now, having said all of that, there's a difference between China now and Cuba. difference between China now and Cuba. difference between China now and Cuba. And oh god, And oh god, And oh god, if we keep going in this direction, the if we keep going in this direction, the if we keep going in this direction, the thought that in 2028 we're going to be thought that in 2028 we're going to be thought that in 2028 we're going to be voting for it, do we want to be more voting for it, do we want to be more voting for it, do we want to be more like China or more like Cuba? That is like China or more like Cuba? That is like China or more like Cuba? That is [ __ ] wild. We should want to be more [ __ ] wild. We should want to be more [ __ ] wild. We should want to be more like America. Unfortunately though, like America. Unfortunately though, like America. Unfortunately though, there's a really big difference between there's a really big difference between there's a really big difference between China and Cuba. China and Cuba. China and Cuba. And so, this is where I know no one is And so, this is where I know no one is And so, this is where I know no one is going to understand my take on this, but going to understand my take on this, but going to understand my take on this, but it looks like this. it looks like this. it looks like this. This is corrupt. This is horrible. This is corrupt. This is horrible. This is corrupt. This is horrible. It's not corrupt. He does corrupt It's not corrupt. He does corrupt It's not corrupt. He does corrupt things. This just isn't one of them. things. This just isn't one of them. things. This just isn't one of them. This is um self-defeating. It robs us This is um self-defeating. It robs us This is um self-defeating. It robs us even farther of the free market. Um it even farther of the free market. Um it even farther of the free market. Um it is is is just just just Here's what's running in Trump's mind. Here's what's running in Trump's mind. Here's what's running in Trump's mind. I'm mind reading, which means that I'm I'm mind reading, which means that I'm I'm mind reading, which means that I'm not going to be 100% correct, but the not going to be 100% correct, but the not going to be 100% correct, but the reason that I say this is the US economy reason that I say this is the US economy reason that I say this is the US economy with Chinese characteristics is Xi is with Chinese characteristics is Xi is with Chinese characteristics is Xi is he understands he understands he understands because of what China went through that because of what China went through that because of what China went through that you can't do Cuba. Cuba kills people. you can't do Cuba. Cuba kills people. you can't do Cuba. Cuba kills people. So, you've got to do something So, you've got to do something So, you've got to do something different. He looked at America and different. He looked at America and different. He looked at America and said, said, said, "Whatever you guys are doing is working. "Whatever you guys are doing is working. "Whatever you guys are doing is working. We want to do some of that." Technically We want to do some of that." Technically We want to do some of that." Technically it was Deng Xiaoping. Anyway, Xi's the it was Deng Xiaoping. Anyway, Xi's the it was Deng Xiaoping. Anyway, Xi's the keeper of the sepulcher now or the keeper of the sepulcher now or the keeper of the sepulcher now or the scepter now. So, he says, "We're going scepter now. So, he says, "We're going scepter now. So, he says, "We're going to keep doing this. We need free market to keep doing this. We need free market to keep doing this. We need free market capitalism. We need people to be able to capitalism. We need people to be able to capitalism. We need people to be able to get wealthy." Remember, remember, China get wealthy." Remember, remember, China get wealthy." Remember, remember, China has more inequality than America. has more inequality than America. has more inequality than America. So, So, So, we're going to allow people to get we're going to allow people to get we're going to allow people to get wealthy so that we can pull people out wealthy so that we can pull people out wealthy so that we can pull people out of poverty. And everybody, rightly, says of poverty. And everybody, rightly, says of poverty. And everybody, rightly, says that China has pulled more people out of that China has pulled more people out of that China has pulled more people out of poverty than any other country in poverty than any other country in poverty than any other country in history. It's extraordinary. What China history. It's extraordinary. What China history. It's extraordinary. What China did is patently extraordinary. did is patently extraordinary. did is patently extraordinary. And And And the bad news is the bad news is the bad news is that they didn't give up the that they didn't give up the that they didn't give up the authoritarian rule to do it. authoritarian rule to do it. authoritarian rule to do it. So, they've built this way of So, they've built this way of So, they've built this way of negotiating against the rest of the negotiating against the rest of the negotiating against the rest of the world for dominance. world for dominance. world for dominance. And in doing so, they've created And in doing so, they've created And in doing so, they've created basically a new kind of economy that we basically a new kind of economy that we basically a new kind of economy that we call communism with Chinese call communism with Chinese call communism with Chinese characteristics. characteristics. characteristics. Now, Now, Now, it's ironically the reverse of the it's ironically the reverse of the it's ironically the reverse of the American economy with Chinese American economy with Chinese American economy with Chinese characteristics. So, China is trying to characteristics. So, China is trying to characteristics. So, China is trying to run it like a communist dictatorship, run it like a communist dictatorship, run it like a communist dictatorship, very light on communism, very heavy on very light on communism, very heavy on very light on communism, very heavy on dictatorship, dictatorship, dictatorship, uh very pro free markets. The US is the uh very pro free markets. The US is the uh very pro free markets. The US is the opposite. Our base state is a free opposite. Our base state is a free opposite. Our base state is a free market, and now we're layering some of market, and now we're layering some of market, and now we're layering some of the communism dictatorship on top, where the communism dictatorship on top, where the communism dictatorship on top, where we're saying, "No, we we are going to we're saying, "No, we we are going to we're saying, "No, we we are going to start from the top down saying what start from the top down saying what start from the top down saying what companies live and what companies die." companies live and what companies die." companies live and what companies die." Because make no mistake, if you own 10% Because make no mistake, if you own 10% Because make no mistake, if you own 10% of Intel and Intel's in trouble, then of Intel and Intel's in trouble, then of Intel and Intel's in trouble, then you're going to make sure that they get you're going to make sure that they get you're going to make sure that they get the loans or the bailout or whatever the loans or the bailout or whatever the loans or the bailout or whatever they need. Uh because the American they need. Uh because the American they need. Uh because the American people are tied up in it, and that will people are tied up in it, and that will people are tied up in it, and that will be the excuse, and that will be how you be the excuse, and that will be how you be the excuse, and that will be how you get Americans to be like, "Yeah, I own get Americans to be like, "Yeah, I own get Americans to be like, "Yeah, I own 10% of that." Uh because that's 10% of that." Uh because that's 10% of that." Uh because that's effectively part of our national effectively part of our national effectively part of our national uh our sovereign wealth fund. So, uh our sovereign wealth fund. So, uh our sovereign wealth fund. So, people will actually now think that people will actually now think that people will actually now think that they're able to pick winners and losers, they're able to pick winners and losers, they're able to pick winners and losers, and slowly over time you will lose and slowly over time you will lose and slowly over time you will lose competition, and your once beautiful competition, and your once beautiful competition, and your once beautiful free market capitalism calcifies into free market capitalism calcifies into free market capitalism calcifies into [ __ ] and you just can't understand [ __ ] and you just can't understand [ __ ] and you just can't understand how you're now uh failing in the world. how you're now uh failing in the world. how you're now uh failing in the world. But that's how it's going to play out. But that's how it's going to play out. But that's how it's going to play out. Okay, but we really do have to Okay, but we really do have to Okay, but we really do have to differentiate between differentiate between differentiate between what China learned and how they pulled what China learned and how they pulled what China learned and how they pulled themselves out of unimaginable grinding themselves out of unimaginable grinding themselves out of unimaginable grinding poverty, killing 45 million of their own poverty, killing 45 million of their own poverty, killing 45 million of their own people by starving them to death. people by starving them to death. people by starving them to death. That's the Cuba model. That's the Cuba model. That's the Cuba model. And the model where they realize, "Okay, And the model where they realize, "Okay, And the model where they realize, "Okay, we have to have free market capitalism. we have to have free market capitalism. we have to have free market capitalism. We have to let inequality grow because We have to let inequality grow because We have to let inequality grow because some people are just more talented at some people are just more talented at some people are just more talented at making money than other people. Uh but making money than other people. Uh but making money than other people. Uh but we're going to keep control of it, so we're going to keep control of it, so we're going to keep control of it, so that we can get everybody to work in a that we can get everybody to work in a that we can get everybody to work in a coordinated fashion, which is why it coordinated fashion, which is why it coordinated fashion, which is why it works so effectively on the world stage. works so effectively on the world stage. works so effectively on the world stage. So, it is far better than what the DSA So, it is far better than what the DSA So, it is far better than what the DSA is clamoring for. So, I will continue to is clamoring for. So, I will continue to is clamoring for. So, I will continue to draw a line between what draw a line between what draw a line between what the DSA is calling for and the the DSA is calling for and the the DSA is calling for and the Cuba-style danger that that is because Cuba-style danger that that is because Cuba-style danger that that is because it will break the engine of prosperity it will break the engine of prosperity it will break the engine of prosperity for reasons we'll go into later for reasons we'll go into later for reasons we'll go into later versus this where China's showing you versus this where China's showing you versus this where China's showing you you create a very fragile style of you create a very fragile style of you create a very fragile style of government because once they're wrong, government because once they're wrong, government because once they're wrong, oh [ __ ] all hell can break loose. oh [ __ ] all hell can break loose. oh [ __ ] all hell can break loose. But you do realize that you have to let But you do realize that you have to let But you do realize that you have to let people get wealthy, you have to foster people get wealthy, you have to foster people get wealthy, you have to foster innovation, you have to scale your innovation, you have to scale your innovation, you have to scale your economy, you have to grow your way out economy, you have to grow your way out economy, you have to grow your way out of problems. And once they realize that, of problems. And once they realize that, of problems. And once they realize that, they became a behemoth. So, now I would they became a behemoth. So, now I would they became a behemoth. So, now I would much rather see us be American. Lean much rather see us be American. Lean much rather see us be American. Lean into the things that make America great. into the things that make America great. into the things that make America great. Actual freedoms, freedom of speech, Actual freedoms, freedom of speech, Actual freedoms, freedom of speech, freedom for people to make a decision on freedom for people to make a decision on freedom for people to make a decision on what company they want to run. Let what company they want to run. Let what company they want to run. Let people vote with their own dollars and people vote with their own dollars and people vote with their own dollars and their own feet versus the government their own feet versus the government their own feet versus the government trying to create a sovereign wealth fund trying to create a sovereign wealth fund trying to create a sovereign wealth fund out of companies. What they should be out of companies. What they should be out of companies. What they should be doing is creating, hey, you're born, doing is creating, hey, you're born, doing is creating, hey, you're born, awesome. You're now invested in the US awesome. You're now invested in the US awesome. You're now invested in the US stock market as a whole. Like an S&P 500 stock market as a whole. Like an S&P 500 stock market as a whole. Like an S&P 500 where you qualify and you're on the where you qualify and you're on the where you qualify and you're on the list. If you don't qualify, you're off list. If you don't qualify, you're off list. If you don't qualify, you're off the list and that's just constantly the list and that's just constantly the list and that's just constantly being updated being updated being updated and every American is invested in the and every American is invested in the and every American is invested in the American stock market. That would American stock market. That would American stock market. That would suddenly make people care very much suddenly make people care very much suddenly make people care very much about the about the about the whether the US economy is thriving and whether the US economy is thriving and whether the US economy is thriving and growing, but they won't care about any growing, but they won't care about any growing, but they won't care about any one company and that is precisely where one company and that is precisely where one company and that is precisely where you want them to be. >> Um that reminds me of a Peter Thiel >> Um that reminds me of a Peter Thiel three tweet or email that he sent out three tweet or email that he sent out three tweet or email that he sent out Mark Zuckerberg into the like Facebook Mark Zuckerberg into the like Facebook Mark Zuckerberg into the like Facebook team. team. team. >> Years ago. >> Years ago. >> Years ago. >> Uh Nick, I certainly would not suggest >> Uh Nick, I certainly would not suggest >> Uh Nick, I certainly would not suggest that our policy should be to embrace that our policy should be to embrace that our policy should be to embrace millennial attitudes unreflectively. I millennial attitudes unreflectively. I millennial attitudes unreflectively. I would be the last person to advocate for would be the last person to advocate for would be the last person to advocate for socialism, but when 70% of millennials socialism, but when 70% of millennials socialism, but when 70% of millennials say they are pro-socialist, we need to say they are pro-socialist, we need to say they are pro-socialist, we need to do better than simply dismiss them by do better than simply dismiss them by do better than simply dismiss them by saying they are stupid or entitled or saying they are stupid or entitled or saying they are stupid or entitled or brainwashed. We should try and brainwashed. We should try and brainwashed. We should try and understand why. And from that and from understand why. And from that and from understand why. And from that and from the perspective of a broken generational the perspective of a broken generational the perspective of a broken generational compact, there seems to be a pretty compact, there seems to be a pretty compact, there seems to be a pretty straightforward answer to me. Namely, straightforward answer to me. Namely, straightforward answer to me. Namely, that when one has too much student debt that when one has too much student debt that when one has too much student debt or if housing is too unaffordable, then or if housing is too unaffordable, then or if housing is too unaffordable, then one will have a negative capital for a one will have a negative capital for a one will have a negative capital for a long time or find it very hard to start long time or find it very hard to start long time or find it very hard to start accumulating capital in form of in the accumulating capital in form of in the accumulating capital in form of in the form of real estate. And if one has no form of real estate. And if one has no form of real estate. And if one has no stake in the capitalist system, then one stake in the capitalist system, then one stake in the capitalist system, then one may well turn against it. And I feel may well turn against it. And I feel may well turn against it. And I feel like we keep thinking that these commies like we keep thinking that these commies like we keep thinking that these commies are coming out of the ground and they're are coming out of the ground and they're are coming out of the ground and they're like, "Ooh." Like they're the boogeyman. like, "Ooh." Like they're the boogeyman. like, "Ooh." Like they're the boogeyman. So, it is all cause and effect. A wise So, it is all cause and effect. A wise So, it is all cause and effect. A wise man once told me that. So, if enough man once told me that. So, if enough man once told me that. So, if enough people don't get stuck get starved out people don't get stuck get starved out people don't get stuck get starved out when too many people get hungry, they when too many people get hungry, they when too many people get hungry, they start to get a little bit anxious. start to get a little bit anxious. start to get a little bit anxious. Um and last thing about that, the Um and last thing about that, the Um and last thing about that, the American dream American dream American dream was not in the Constitution. Founding was not in the Constitution. Founding was not in the Constitution. Founding fathers didn't say it. It was a mortgage fathers didn't say it. It was a mortgage fathers didn't say it. It was a mortgage marketing campaign started in the '60s. marketing campaign started in the '60s. marketing campaign started in the '60s. So, the reason it caught fire was So, the reason it caught fire was So, the reason it caught fire was because now you're part of the American because now you're part of the American because now you're part of the American dream, you're bought in, you got a piece dream, you're bought in, you got a piece dream, you're bought in, you got a piece of America, you are now team America, of America, you are now team America, of America, you are now team America, and that immediately stopped the wave of and that immediately stopped the wave of and that immediately stopped the wave of like communism. It's It's because I when like communism. It's It's because I when like communism. It's It's because I when I'm a part of the system, I care about I'm a part of the system, I care about I'm a part of the system, I care about the system. When I'm not a part of the the system. When I'm not a part of the the system. When I'm not a part of the system I don't care about the system. system I don't care about the system. system I don't care about the system. So, I think we need to stop just there's So, I think we need to stop just there's So, I think we need to stop just there's other mechanisms that we can do that I other mechanisms that we can do that I other mechanisms that we can do that I think will directly tie to the result of think will directly tie to the result of think will directly tie to the result of this. this. this. >> Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. So, it's >> Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. So, it's >> Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. So, it's interesting to see somebody who is so interesting to see somebody who is so interesting to see somebody who is so hated um say what is one of countless hated um say what is one of countless hated um say what is one of countless things that he said that are absolutely things that he said that are absolutely things that he said that are absolutely brilliant. And this is why I'm saying, brilliant. And this is why I'm saying, brilliant. And this is why I'm saying, yeah, this is all cause and effect. We yeah, this is all cause and effect. We yeah, this is all cause and effect. We have to be able to map it out. The have to be able to map it out. The have to be able to map it out. The problem is the energy on the left is the problem is the energy on the left is the problem is the energy on the left is the DSA, which is literally a suicide pact DSA, which is literally a suicide pact DSA, which is literally a suicide pact economically. Um and economically. Um and economically. Um and if we go in that direction, we will make if we go in that direction, we will make if we go in that direction, we will make this worse. Now, this is where I just this worse. Now, this is where I just this worse. Now, this is where I just wish I could get people to read about wish I could get people to read about wish I could get people to read about history. Um read about the French history. Um read about the French history. Um read about the French Revolution. It It is the most Revolution. It It is the most Revolution. It It is the most eye-opening thing in the world. Because eye-opening thing in the world. Because eye-opening thing in the world. Because guess who doesn't rise up? guess who doesn't rise up? guess who doesn't rise up? The working class that is supposedly The working class that is supposedly The working class that is supposedly being the most abused. Guess who does being the most abused. Guess who does being the most abused. Guess who does rise up? Overproduction of elites. The rise up? Overproduction of elites. The rise up? Overproduction of elites. The people who grew up believing, "I'm going people who grew up believing, "I'm going people who grew up believing, "I'm going to be part of the elite class. I should to be part of the elite class. I should to be part of the elite class. I should be rich. I should be powerful. And I'm be rich. I should be powerful. And I'm be rich. I should be powerful. And I'm not. I'm on the outside of the system. not. I'm on the outside of the system. not. I'm on the outside of the system. And so I'm going to take it down. And so I'm going to take it down. And so I'm going to take it down. Once you realize that, oh, this is the Once you realize that, oh, this is the Once you realize that, oh, this is the overeducated person that cannot find overeducated person that cannot find overeducated person that cannot find that power or position that they thought that power or position that they thought that power or position that they thought they were going to have because we have they were going to have because we have they were going to have because we have so many people falling into that class. so many people falling into that class. so many people falling into that class. And revolutions tend to start not at the And revolutions tend to start not at the And revolutions tend to start not at the moment where things are the worst. They moment where things are the worst. They moment where things are the worst. They tend to start as things start getting tend to start as things start getting tend to start as things start getting better, but the people still don't feel better, but the people still don't feel better, but the people still don't feel like we have met their expectations. And like we have met their expectations. And like we have met their expectations. And when you hear their expectations, which when you hear their expectations, which when you hear their expectations, which are patently absurd, I'm talking are patently absurd, I'm talking are patently absurd, I'm talking specifically about the DSA, um that's specifically about the DSA, um that's specifically about the DSA, um that's when you realize, oh, yeah, they're when you realize, oh, yeah, they're when you realize, oh, yeah, they're going to come for your necks. The going to come for your necks. The going to come for your necks. The problem is, just like in France, they problem is, just like in France, they problem is, just like in France, they don't end up building something don't end up building something don't end up building something beautiful on the back of that. They end beautiful on the back of that. They end beautiful on the back of that. They end up waging a war all across Europe up waging a war all across Europe up waging a war all across Europe because they were just killing each because they were just killing each because they were just killing each other so much that the crazy strong man other so much that the crazy strong man other so much that the crazy strong man known as Napoleon comes in and is like, known as Napoleon comes in and is like, known as Napoleon comes in and is like, oh, I know what to do with these guys. oh, I know what to do with these guys. oh, I know what to do with these guys. And he points them at Europe and tries And he points them at Europe and tries And he points them at Europe and tries to confiscate all of Europe's land and to confiscate all of Europe's land and to confiscate all of Europe's land and wealth because once people turn wealth because once people turn wealth because once people turn murderous, man, it is hard to turn off. murderous, man, it is hard to turn off. murderous, man, it is hard to turn off. So, because it is born of resentment, it So, because it is born of resentment, it So, because it is born of resentment, it is a such a negative like is a such a negative like is a such a negative like constructive way of viewing the world. constructive way of viewing the world. constructive way of viewing the world. And so it's wild hearing people like And so it's wild hearing people like And so it's wild hearing people like Chevalier talk about we need something Chevalier talk about we need something Chevalier talk about we need something of hope and promise. It's like, that's of hope and promise. It's like, that's of hope and promise. It's like, that's not what's on offer. So, not what's on offer. So, not what's on offer. So, we have to be very cognizant of what we have to be very cognizant of what we have to be very cognizant of what actually causes people to feel iced out. actually causes people to feel iced out. actually causes people to feel iced out. The baseline answer is they don't own The baseline answer is they don't own The baseline answer is they don't own assets. And whenever you're running an assets. And whenever you're running an assets. And whenever you're running an inflationary regime, if people do not inflationary regime, if people do not inflationary regime, if people do not own assets, they will get poorer. own assets, they will get poorer. own assets, they will get poorer. And that is what people are responding And that is what people are responding And that is what people are responding to. Now, why houses become a thing is to. Now, why houses become a thing is to. Now, why houses become a thing is not because they're an asset per se. not because they're an asset per se. not because they're an asset per se. It's because it is the only asset that It's because it is the only asset that It's because it is the only asset that when a man and a woman are doing the when a man and a woman are doing the when a man and a woman are doing the mating dance, that the woman is going to mating dance, that the woman is going to mating dance, that the woman is going to pressure the man to buy a house and both pressure the man to buy a house and both pressure the man to buy a house and both of them completely understand it as this of them completely understand it as this of them completely understand it as this is a valuable thing and it's a valuable is a valuable thing and it's a valuable is a valuable thing and it's a valuable thing that I really want. Now, the great thing that I really want. Now, the great thing that I really want. Now, the great irony is the reason that Pokémon cards irony is the reason that Pokémon cards irony is the reason that Pokémon cards have performed so incredibly well as an have performed so incredibly well as an have performed so incredibly well as an asset class is it is a thing that people asset class is it is a thing that people asset class is it is a thing that people have an emotion pulled towards because have an emotion pulled towards because have an emotion pulled towards because of nostalgia and they know that it's of nostalgia and they know that it's of nostalgia and they know that it's valuable and it goes up in value and valuable and it goes up in value and valuable and it goes up in value and they can buy it for cheap. If houses they can buy it for cheap. If houses they can buy it for cheap. If houses were working as they should, Pokémon were working as they should, Pokémon were working as they should, Pokémon would cease to exist. That is where would cease to exist. That is where would cease to exist. That is where people go when they want a thing that people go when they want a thing that people go when they want a thing that they have an emotional response to that they have an emotional response to that they have an emotional response to that they can buy that happens to become an they can buy that happens to become an they can buy that happens to become an investment. investment. investment. Humans are emotional creatures. You buy Humans are emotional creatures. You buy Humans are emotional creatures. You buy a Pokémon card because you have an a Pokémon card because you have an a Pokémon card because you have an emotional response to it and it can make emotional response to it and it can make emotional response to it and it can make you wealthy. You buy a house because you you wealthy. You buy a house because you you wealthy. You buy a house because you have an emotional response to it and it have an emotional response to it and it have an emotional response to it and it can make you wealthy or at least allow can make you wealthy or at least allow can make you wealthy or at least allow you to store money. you to store money. you to store money. It is the one asset you cannot break. It is the one asset you cannot break. It is the one asset you cannot break. You cannot break houses. Houses cannot You cannot break houses. Houses cannot You cannot break houses. Houses cannot become unaffordable. Now, I don't think become unaffordable. Now, I don't think become unaffordable. Now, I don't think people understand what happened after people understand what happened after people understand what happened after World War and so people will often bring World War and so people will often bring World War and so people will often bring it up as like, "Look, we got everything it up as like, "Look, we got everything it up as like, "Look, we got everything right and now we're a bunch of morons." right and now we're a bunch of morons." right and now we're a bunch of morons." It is it was a very different time. It It is it was a very different time. It It is it was a very different time. It is a great way to test to see what would is a great way to test to see what would is a great way to test to see what would your philosophy have looked like back your philosophy have looked like back your philosophy have looked like back then and to ask, "Do you have the same then and to ask, "Do you have the same then and to ask, "Do you have the same setup that we had after World War II?" setup that we had after World War II?" setup that we had after World War II?" Uh but people are really going to have Uh but people are really going to have Uh but people are really going to have to get deft like if we actually want to to get deft like if we actually want to to get deft like if we actually want to cause and effect our way out of these cause and effect our way out of these cause and effect our way out of these problems, you have to understand why problems, you have to understand why problems, you have to understand why things worked so well in the '50s and things worked so well in the '50s and things worked so well in the '50s and '60s and why this moment is not like the '60s and why this moment is not like the '60s and why this moment is not like the '50s and '60s. We have a different '50s and '60s. We have a different '50s and '60s. We have a different problem, but we can learn a lot by why problem, but we can learn a lot by why problem, but we can learn a lot by why things felt so good. Namely, that people things felt so good. Namely, that people things felt so good. Namely, that people were getting in real terms, they were were getting in real terms, they were were getting in real terms, they were getting wealthier. getting wealthier. getting wealthier. It is not because we had a 91 It is not because we had a 91 It is not because we had a 91 percent top tax rate, which is what percent top tax rate, which is what percent top tax rate, which is what people will tell you. And I will just people will tell you. And I will just people will tell you. And I will just remind people on a per taxpayer basis, remind people on a per taxpayer basis, remind people on a per taxpayer basis, on a per taxpayer basis, on a per taxpayer basis, on a per taxpayer basis, we collect more money now by a lot than we collect more money now by a lot than we collect more money now by a lot than we did with the 91% top top tax rate. we did with the 91% top top tax rate. we did with the 91% top top tax rate. So, you're going to have to [ __ ] So, you're going to have to [ __ ] So, you're going to have to [ __ ] contend with that if you're going to try contend with that if you're going to try contend with that if you're going to try to say this is a tax problem. This is to say this is a tax problem. This is to say this is a tax problem. This is not a [ __ ] tax problem. This is a not a [ __ ] tax problem. This is a not a [ __ ] tax problem. This is a spending to revenue problem. It's spending to revenue problem. It's spending to revenue problem. It's spending problem. It's spending problem. spending problem. It's spending problem. spending problem. It's spending problem. You've doubled the amount that you spend You've doubled the amount that you spend You've doubled the amount that you spend at the federal level almost like 94% in at the federal level almost like 94% in at the federal level almost like 94% in the last 10 years, and it's not making the last 10 years, and it's not making the last 10 years, and it's not making things better. It's making things worse. things better. It's making things worse. things better. It's making things worse. So, anyway, uh So, anyway, uh So, anyway, uh we can go down why the '50s and '60s we can go down why the '50s and '60s we can go down why the '50s and '60s were so dope, and they were dope, and we were so dope, and they were dope, and we were so dope, and they were dope, and we should try to mimic as many of those should try to mimic as many of those should try to mimic as many of those things as we can, but right now let's things as we can, but right now let's things as we can, but right now let's just stay focused on the housing. just stay focused on the housing. just stay focused on the housing. It becomes the American dream not It becomes the American dream not It becomes the American dream not because it has a good marketing because it has a good marketing because it has a good marketing campaign. The marketing campaign worked campaign. The marketing campaign worked campaign. The marketing campaign worked because you have a real thing. You have because you have a real thing. You have because you have a real thing. You have an emotional pull to buy that asset. I an emotional pull to buy that asset. I an emotional pull to buy that asset. I lived through this myself. I did not lived through this myself. I did not lived through this myself. I did not want to buy an apartment. want to buy an apartment. want to buy an apartment. But, my wife really wanted one, and I But, my wife really wanted one, and I But, my wife really wanted one, and I wanted to get laid. And so, I ended up wanted to get laid. And so, I ended up wanted to get laid. And so, I ended up putting myself out way over my skis, putting myself out way over my skis, putting myself out way over my skis, getting one of those adjustable rate getting one of those adjustable rate getting one of those adjustable rate mortgages, all of that [ __ ] dangerous mortgages, all of that [ __ ] dangerous mortgages, all of that [ __ ] dangerous as the day is long, but I did it because as the day is long, but I did it because as the day is long, but I did it because I wanted to impress my wife. And so, I wanted to impress my wife. And so, I wanted to impress my wife. And so, that dynamic is insanely powerful that dynamic is insanely powerful that dynamic is insanely powerful because it accidentally puts you into because it accidentally puts you into because it accidentally puts you into assets, and right now that's what we're assets, and right now that's what we're assets, and right now that's what we're lacking. >> Cool. >> Cool. Um moving on, the Strait of Hormuz that Um moving on, the Strait of Hormuz that Um moving on, the Strait of Hormuz that was wide open, um just shut down a boat. was wide open, um just shut down a boat. was wide open, um just shut down a boat. Um the plan to get thousands of stranded Um the plan to get thousands of stranded Um the plan to get thousands of stranded sailors out of the Strait of Hormuz sailors out of the Strait of Hormuz sailors out of the Strait of Hormuz Hormuz got frozen after a cargo ship was Hormuz got frozen after a cargo ship was Hormuz got frozen after a cargo ship was hit near Oman. The IMO has spent days hit near Oman. The IMO has spent days hit near Oman. The IMO has spent days working on it out a safe corridor along working on it out a safe corridor along working on it out a safe corridor along the Omani coast for the hundreds of the Omani coast for the hundreds of the Omani coast for the hundreds of ships stuck in the Gulf since February. ships stuck in the Gulf since February. ships stuck in the Gulf since February. Then the Singapore-flagged Ever Lovely Then the Singapore-flagged Ever Lovely Then the Singapore-flagged Ever Lovely got struck 7.5 nautical miles off of the got struck 7.5 nautical miles off of the got struck 7.5 nautical miles off of the heat, and the whole thing was paused heat, and the whole thing was paused heat, and the whole thing was paused until further notice. The heat came until further notice. The heat came until further notice. The heat came hours after Tehran told ships to stay hours after Tehran told ships to stay hours after Tehran told ships to stay off any route it hasn't signed off on. off any route it hasn't signed off on. off any route it hasn't signed off on. Over 100 days stuck in the Gulf, and the Over 100 days stuck in the Gulf, and the Over 100 days stuck in the Gulf, and the wait out lasted no more than a few. wait out lasted no more than a few. wait out lasted no more than a few. And then these are some of the And then these are some of the And then these are some of the threats that potential vessels have to threats that potential vessels have to threats that potential vessels have to worry about. Unmanned aerial vessels, worry about. Unmanned aerial vessels, worry about. Unmanned aerial vessels, naval mines, shore-based anti-ship naval mines, shore-based anti-ship naval mines, shore-based anti-ship missiles, and then unmanned surface missiles, and then unmanned surface missiles, and then unmanned surface vessels. They got drone boats, which is vessels. They got drone boats, which is vessels. They got drone boats, which is crazy. crazy. crazy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, so here's the bad news. The Strait Yeah, so here's the bad news. The Strait Yeah, so here's the bad news. The Strait of Hormuz is going to open and close, of Hormuz is going to open and close, of Hormuz is going to open and close, open and close open and close open and close for the foreseeable future. Um for the foreseeable future. Um for the foreseeable future. Um everything that I see in the MOU, everything that I see in the MOU, everything that I see in the MOU, everything that I hear coming directly everything that I hear coming directly everything that I hear coming directly from the Iranians, tells me we are not from the Iranians, tells me we are not from the Iranians, tells me we are not going to get to the end of the 60 days going to get to the end of the 60 days going to get to the end of the 60 days and have an agreement, and everything's and have an agreement, and everything's and have an agreement, and everything's going to be hunky-dory. going to be hunky-dory. going to be hunky-dory. I don't even think we're going to get to I don't even think we're going to get to I don't even think we're going to get to the end of the 60 days with everything the end of the 60 days with everything the end of the 60 days with everything negotiated, not by a long stretch. negotiated, not by a long stretch. negotiated, not by a long stretch. Again, I think they are just trying to Again, I think they are just trying to Again, I think they are just trying to uh defang Trump by getting him to the uh defang Trump by getting him to the uh defang Trump by getting him to the midterms, making sure that he loses the midterms, making sure that he loses the midterms, making sure that he loses the Senate and or the Senate and Congress, Senate and or the Senate and Congress, Senate and or the Senate and Congress, uh and then they'll know that he'll be uh and then they'll know that he'll be uh and then they'll know that he'll be impeached and that he's just going to impeached and that he's just going to impeached and that he's just going to have a much harder time getting any have a much harder time getting any have a much harder time getting any legislation done, that Republicans who legislation done, that Republicans who legislation done, that Republicans who want to get elected in 2028 are going to want to get elected in 2028 are going to want to get elected in 2028 are going to start pushing away from him. So, he'll start pushing away from him. So, he'll start pushing away from him. So, he'll end up being a lame duck for the last 2 end up being a lame duck for the last 2 end up being a lame duck for the last 2 years. That's, in my opinion, obviously, years. That's, in my opinion, obviously, years. That's, in my opinion, obviously, the playbook that they're running. Uh the playbook that they're running. Uh the playbook that they're running. Uh they are just blatantly saying Trump is they are just blatantly saying Trump is they are just blatantly saying Trump is saying things that just simply aren't saying things that just simply aren't saying things that just simply aren't true. Trump isn't saying, they're saying true. Trump isn't saying, they're saying true. Trump isn't saying, they're saying things that just simply aren't true. But things that just simply aren't true. But things that just simply aren't true. But what I see, the evidence is, America is what I see, the evidence is, America is what I see, the evidence is, America is negotiating from a place of weakness. If negotiating from a place of weakness. If negotiating from a place of weakness. If for no other reason than through for no other reason than through for no other reason than through asymmetrical warfare, they can shut down asymmetrical warfare, they can shut down asymmetrical warfare, they can shut down the strait at any time, and they now the strait at any time, and they now the strait at any time, and they now have the um have the um have the um the balls, just the willingness to do the balls, just the willingness to do the balls, just the willingness to do it. Historically, there's always been it. Historically, there's always been it. Historically, there's always been enough international pressure where Iran enough international pressure where Iran enough international pressure where Iran didn't do it, nobody else was doing it didn't do it, nobody else was doing it didn't do it, nobody else was doing it cuz there are several of these straits. cuz there are several of these straits. cuz there are several of these straits. And so, now it's like Iran is going, And so, now it's like Iran is going, And so, now it's like Iran is going, "Hey, Oman, listen, you control your "Hey, Oman, listen, you control your "Hey, Oman, listen, you control your side, we'll control our side. We got side, we'll control our side. We got side, we'll control our side. We got this whole thing, we're the most narrow this whole thing, we're the most narrow this whole thing, we're the most narrow part. Uh and so we'll will able to part. Uh and so we'll will able to part. Uh and so we'll will able to patrol the entire strait. patrol the entire strait. patrol the entire strait. Oh, and by the way, dear Gulf countries, Oh, and by the way, dear Gulf countries, Oh, and by the way, dear Gulf countries, if you guys want in on this, get in on if you guys want in on this, get in on if you guys want in on this, get in on it. We'll give you a taste. They want to it. We'll give you a taste. They want to it. We'll give you a taste. They want to make sure that they control it. Why do make sure that they control it. Why do make sure that they control it. Why do they want to control it? They want the they want to control it? They want the they want to control it? They want the US out of the region. So, they want to US out of the region. So, they want to US out of the region. So, they want to isolate Israel. They want to become the isolate Israel. They want to become the isolate Israel. They want to become the ones running the area. And guess who, by ones running the area. And guess who, by ones running the area. And guess who, by the way, they put in charge of this the way, they put in charge of this the way, they put in charge of this growing coalition? The Pakistanis. Why growing coalition? The Pakistanis. Why growing coalition? The Pakistanis. Why the Pakistanis? They are both Islamic the Pakistanis? They are both Islamic the Pakistanis? They are both Islamic and nuclear-armed. So, now it's like, and nuclear-armed. So, now it's like, and nuclear-armed. So, now it's like, what do you think the Iranians are going what do you think the Iranians are going what do you think the Iranians are going to do if they can actually get the US to do if they can actually get the US to do if they can actually get the US out? They're going to rebuild their out? They're going to rebuild their out? They're going to rebuild their nuclear program. And so, this will all nuclear program. And so, this will all nuclear program. And so, this will all have been for naught. I mean, maybe we have been for naught. I mean, maybe we have been for naught. I mean, maybe we pushed back their nuclear ambition by a pushed back their nuclear ambition by a pushed back their nuclear ambition by a few years. But, yeah, these guys are few years. But, yeah, these guys are few years. But, yeah, these guys are going to do their thing. And if the US going to do their thing. And if the US going to do their thing. And if the US actually ends up backing out of the actually ends up backing out of the actually ends up backing out of the region, region, region, ooh, buddy. Uh this will obviously have ooh, buddy. Uh this will obviously have ooh, buddy. Uh this will obviously have been just an absolutely catastrophic been just an absolutely catastrophic been just an absolutely catastrophic failure of untold proportions. It failure of untold proportions. It failure of untold proportions. It becomes our Suez Canal moment. We become becomes our Suez Canal moment. We become becomes our Suez Canal moment. We become a regional power in our hemisphere, and a regional power in our hemisphere, and a regional power in our hemisphere, and that's sort of that. And you're done and that's sort of that. And you're done and that's sort of that. And you're done and dusted. So, that is certainly the track dusted. So, that is certainly the track dusted. So, that is certainly the track that we're on right now. that we're on right now. that we're on right now. >> Um resident black pilled er, Pat black >> Um resident black pilled er, Pat black >> Um resident black pilled er, Pat black pilled er, and friend of the show, Simon pilled er, and friend of the show, Simon pilled er, and friend of the show, Simon Dixon, said the real fight we just was Dixon, said the real fight we just was Dixon, said the real fight we just was played by the GCC and Iran. They were played by the GCC and Iran. They were played by the GCC and Iran. They were working toward the same regional end working toward the same regional end working toward the same regional end game all along, enabled by the Saudi game all along, enabled by the Saudi game all along, enabled by the Saudi Iran normalization brokered by China and Iran normalization brokered by China and Iran normalization brokered by China and reinforced by the broader BRICS sent uh reinforced by the broader BRICS sent uh reinforced by the broader BRICS sent uh transition. The war was the theater. The transition. The war was the theater. The transition. The war was the theater. The regional realignment was the strategy. regional realignment was the strategy. regional realignment was the strategy. My followers have watched this thesis My followers have watched this thesis My followers have watched this thesis unfold in 2023. Follow the money. And unfold in 2023. Follow the money. And unfold in 2023. Follow the money. And this is to your point, going back to the this is to your point, going back to the this is to your point, going back to the Iran and the Gulf states are set to hold Iran and the Gulf states are set to hold Iran and the Gulf states are set to hold talks. talks. talks. Um Um Um conspiracy theory, disclaimer, conspiracy theory, disclaimer, conspiracy theory, disclaimer, disclaimer, stuff like that. But, I do disclaimer, stuff like that. But, I do disclaimer, stuff like that. But, I do kind of see think that there is kind of see think that there is kind of see think that there is something to Iran saying, something to Iran saying, something to Iran saying, "America is on its back foot. We have "America is on its back foot. We have "America is on its back foot. We have leverage right now. What if we just cut leverage right now. What if we just cut leverage right now. What if we just cut the middleman out cuz our initial thing the middleman out cuz our initial thing the middleman out cuz our initial thing was Trump is doing all this for the was Trump is doing all this for the was Trump is doing all this for the GCC." And maybe Iran is like, "Hey guys, GCC." And maybe Iran is like, "Hey guys, GCC." And maybe Iran is like, "Hey guys, we don't need it, you know, we don't we don't need it, you know, we don't we don't need it, you know, we don't need America in the middle. Let me just need America in the middle. Let me just need America in the middle. Let me just go straight to the source and negotiate go straight to the source and negotiate go straight to the source and negotiate a better deal." Like, could we get cut a better deal." Like, could we get cut a better deal." Like, could we get cut out? Do you see a possibility of that out? Do you see a possibility of that out? Do you see a possibility of that like actually happening or is this just like actually happening or is this just like actually happening or is this just speculation in your opinion? speculation in your opinion? speculation in your opinion? >> Let's use this um let's use game theory >> Let's use this um let's use game theory >> Let's use this um let's use game theory as an analogy. So, um John Nash does as an analogy. So, um John Nash does as an analogy. So, um John Nash does this really famous breakdown that ends this really famous breakdown that ends this really famous breakdown that ends up becoming game theory, which is all up becoming game theory, which is all up becoming game theory, which is all right, you're at a bar and you see a right, you're at a bar and you see a right, you're at a bar and you see a bunch of attractive women, which one do bunch of attractive women, which one do bunch of attractive women, which one do you go for? Do you go for the most you go for? Do you go for the most you go for? Do you go for the most attractive knowing everybody's going to attractive knowing everybody's going to attractive knowing everybody's going to go after or do you go for one of the go after or do you go for one of the go after or do you go for one of the other women? And it ends up being wiser other women? And it ends up being wiser other women? And it ends up being wiser for you to go to one of the women who for you to go to one of the women who for you to go to one of the women who are less attractive that you're more are less attractive that you're more are less attractive that you're more likely to be the only one to go after. likely to be the only one to go after. likely to be the only one to go after. The reason that that analogy is so The reason that that analogy is so The reason that that analogy is so useful here is that you're looking at useful here is that you're looking at useful here is that you're looking at your options and you're thinking your options and you're thinking your options and you're thinking strategically through, okay, what strategically through, okay, what strategically through, okay, what happens if I make this move? What happens if I make this move? What happens if I make this move? What happens if I make that move? happens if I make that move? happens if I make that move? If you think of the GCC nations as I'm If you think of the GCC nations as I'm If you think of the GCC nations as I'm just trying to get laid and it's like it just trying to get laid and it's like it just trying to get laid and it's like it can be the US, it can be Iran in a can be the US, it can be Iran in a can be the US, it can be Iran in a regional thing here, doesn't really regional thing here, doesn't really regional thing here, doesn't really matter. So, if the US had come in and matter. So, if the US had come in and matter. So, if the US had come in and shot their shot and won, back to Iran shot their shot and won, back to Iran shot their shot and won, back to Iran down, regime change, take it over, it's down, regime change, take it over, it's down, regime change, take it over, it's the next Venezuela, then the GCC would the next Venezuela, then the GCC would the next Venezuela, then the GCC would have been like, "We love America the have been like, "We love America the have been like, "We love America the most. You guys are so dope. Like, this most. You guys are so dope. Like, this most. You guys are so dope. Like, this is rad. Normalize relationships with is rad. Normalize relationships with is rad. Normalize relationships with Israel. Cool, we're good. We'll move Israel. Cool, we're good. We'll move Israel. Cool, we're good. We'll move forward with that." forward with that." forward with that." If on the other hand, America comes in, If on the other hand, America comes in, If on the other hand, America comes in, shoots your shot, you [ __ ] up, Iran now shoots your shot, you [ __ ] up, Iran now shoots your shot, you [ __ ] up, Iran now takes over, that's why midstream they takes over, that's why midstream they takes over, that's why midstream they went from, "Yeah, we can take off went from, "Yeah, we can take off went from, "Yeah, we can take off whenever we wanted to." No, no, no, you whenever we wanted to." No, no, no, you whenever we wanted to." No, no, no, you can't take off. Okay, well, yes, you can't take off. Okay, well, yes, you can't take off. Okay, well, yes, you can. Because they're like, "Fuck, who's can. Because they're like, "Fuck, who's can. Because they're like, "Fuck, who's more likely to win? I don't know." But, more likely to win? I don't know." But, more likely to win? I don't know." But, they're they're going to have a plan A they're they're going to have a plan A they're they're going to have a plan A for America wins, they're going to have for America wins, they're going to have for America wins, they're going to have a plan B for Iran wins. They just want a plan B for Iran wins. They just want a plan B for Iran wins. They just want to make sure that they're on the side of to make sure that they're on the side of to make sure that they're on the side of whoever wins. And so, once you whoever wins. And so, once you whoever wins. And so, once you understand how utilitarian all of understand how utilitarian all of understand how utilitarian all of politics is, all of these great wars politics is, all of these great wars politics is, all of these great wars are, are, are, not that this is a great war, but a war. not that this is a great war, but a war. not that this is a great war, but a war. So, it at the end, people are just like, So, it at the end, people are just like, So, it at the end, people are just like, "Okay, this is a new world order. Cool, "Okay, this is a new world order. Cool, "Okay, this is a new world order. Cool, then I'm going to go do that thing." So, then I'm going to go do that thing." So, then I'm going to go do that thing." So, I think ultimately everybody's agnostic. I think ultimately everybody's agnostic. I think ultimately everybody's agnostic. Just like the US has a backup plan. All Just like the US has a backup plan. All Just like the US has a backup plan. All right, cool. We tried to reestablish right, cool. We tried to reestablish right, cool. We tried to reestablish ourselves in a much wider part of the ourselves in a much wider part of the ourselves in a much wider part of the world. We tried to isolate China. Didn't world. We tried to isolate China. Didn't world. We tried to isolate China. Didn't work. Uh so, now we're going to go back work. Uh so, now we're going to go back work. Uh so, now we're going to go back to being a regional power, but by the to being a regional power, but by the to being a regional power, but by the way, we're going to be wealthier than we way, we're going to be wealthier than we way, we're going to be wealthier than we were when we went into this. We're going were when we went into this. We're going were when we went into this. We're going to scale back our empire, which would be to scale back our empire, which would be to scale back our empire, which would be really good from a capital perspective. really good from a capital perspective. really good from a capital perspective. It'd be [ __ ] incredible. It'd be [ __ ] incredible. It'd be [ __ ] incredible. Um Um Um I think there are complexities with I think there are complexities with I think there are complexities with Israel, but even that like I think it's Israel, but even that like I think it's Israel, but even that like I think it's going to be tough for Israel to hold on going to be tough for Israel to hold on going to be tough for Israel to hold on to a to a to a an America that's pro-Israel for much an America that's pro-Israel for much an America that's pro-Israel for much longer. So, now it's like, "Yeah, [ __ ] longer. So, now it's like, "Yeah, [ __ ] longer. So, now it's like, "Yeah, [ __ ] them. Like it plays out how it plays them. Like it plays out how it plays them. Like it plays out how it plays out. We keep our whatever $3 billion a out. We keep our whatever $3 billion a out. We keep our whatever $3 billion a year. Not worried about those guys. Not year. Not worried about those guys. Not year. Not worried about those guys. Not worried about the GCC. We worried about the GCC. We worried about the GCC. We produce more oil than Saudi Arabia and produce more oil than Saudi Arabia and produce more oil than Saudi Arabia and Russia combined. Who the [ __ ] cares?" Russia combined. Who the [ __ ] cares?" Russia combined. Who the [ __ ] cares?" And so, we're just going to double down, And so, we're just going to double down, And so, we're just going to double down, do our thing. China's going to be its do our thing. China's going to be its do our thing. China's going to be its thing. We'll tell them, "You've got to thing. We'll tell them, "You've got to thing. We'll tell them, "You've got to stay the [ __ ] out of uh the larger North stay the [ __ ] out of uh the larger North stay the [ __ ] out of uh the larger North America, which technically goes all the America, which technically goes all the America, which technically goes all the way down South America. But like you're way down South America. But like you're way down South America. But like you're going to stay out of our part of the going to stay out of our part of the going to stay out of our part of the hemisphere. Uh Europe can do its own hemisphere. Uh Europe can do its own hemisphere. Uh Europe can do its own thing. We're the [ __ ] out of NATO. But thing. We're the [ __ ] out of NATO. But thing. We're the [ __ ] out of NATO. But like like like people are going to be real confused if people are going to be real confused if people are going to be real confused if they don't understand even if America they don't understand even if America they don't understand even if America scales back, we are still a gigantic scales back, we are still a gigantic scales back, we are still a gigantic economy. And by the way, and this is economy. And by the way, and this is economy. And by the way, and this is something I don't think people something I don't think people something I don't think people understand. understand. understand. China's economy is from a GDP China's economy is from a GDP China's economy is from a GDP perspective, you could say it might be perspective, you could say it might be perspective, you could say it might be bigger than the US's. Who the [ __ ] bigger than the US's. Who the [ __ ] bigger than the US's. Who the [ __ ] cares? They sell a bunch of stuff. We cares? They sell a bunch of stuff. We cares? They sell a bunch of stuff. We buy a bunch of stuff. So, everybody's buy a bunch of stuff. So, everybody's buy a bunch of stuff. So, everybody's going to dick ride America. That's just going to dick ride America. That's just going to dick ride America. That's just how it is because you need our money. how it is because you need our money. how it is because you need our money. And whoever is going to be in charge of And whoever is going to be in charge of And whoever is going to be in charge of America, if they understand that, we're America, if they understand that, we're America, if they understand that, we're not an empire anymore, we've got our not an empire anymore, we've got our not an empire anymore, we've got our little neighborhood, but holy [ __ ] our little neighborhood, but holy [ __ ] our little neighborhood, but holy [ __ ] our neighborhood is the wealthiest neighborhood is the wealthiest neighborhood is the wealthiest neighborhood in the world. Everybody neighborhood in the world. Everybody neighborhood in the world. Everybody wants to do business with us. And wants to do business with us. And wants to do business with us. And literally, look at the charts of foreign literally, look at the charts of foreign literally, look at the charts of foreign investments pouring into the US, which I investments pouring into the US, which I investments pouring into the US, which I have a feeling, this is just a feeling, have a feeling, this is just a feeling, have a feeling, this is just a feeling, but I have a feeling you can track the but I have a feeling you can track the but I have a feeling you can track the amount of money pouring into the the amount of money pouring into the the amount of money pouring into the the on a chart with the housing crisis in on a chart with the housing crisis in on a chart with the housing crisis in China that people are like, "Woo, there China that people are like, "Woo, there China that people are like, "Woo, there is nowhere else for me to put my money is nowhere else for me to put my money is nowhere else for me to put my money other than the US." And so you've got other than the US." And so you've got other than the US." And so you've got what the US is doing in AI, we're what the US is doing in AI, we're what the US is doing in AI, we're currently the leaders though we may try currently the leaders though we may try currently the leaders though we may try to really [ __ ] that up, but we're to really [ __ ] that up, but we're to really [ __ ] that up, but we're currently the leaders in AI currently the leaders in AI currently the leaders in AI which is the hottest technology on which is the hottest technology on which is the hottest technology on planet Earth. planet Earth. planet Earth. Uh everybody is doing uh money printing, Uh everybody is doing uh money printing, Uh everybody is doing uh money printing, so it's like, "Yeah, yeah, [ __ ] I'd so it's like, "Yeah, yeah, [ __ ] I'd so it's like, "Yeah, yeah, [ __ ] I'd still rather be on the US side of this still rather be on the US side of this still rather be on the US side of this for now." And so uh as Japan for now." And so uh as Japan for now." And so uh as Japan destabilizes, China destabilizes, Europe destabilizes, China destabilizes, Europe destabilizes, China destabilizes, Europe destabilizes, the GCC destabilizes, destabilizes, the GCC destabilizes, destabilizes, the GCC destabilizes, America will have to retreat back to its America will have to retreat back to its America will have to retreat back to its own little space, but America retreated own little space, but America retreated own little space, but America retreated back to its own little space will still back to its own little space will still back to its own little space will still be ridiculously wealthy. And by the way, be ridiculously wealthy. And by the way, be ridiculously wealthy. And by the way, if we actually stop being dumbasses that if we actually stop being dumbasses that if we actually stop being dumbasses that outsource everything to China and we outsource everything to China and we outsource everything to China and we start manufacturing in America, now we start manufacturing in America, now we start manufacturing in America, now we can get back to a thriving middle class, can get back to a thriving middle class, can get back to a thriving middle class, that's an oversimplification, but it that's an oversimplification, but it that's an oversimplification, but it gets you directionally correct, you can gets you directionally correct, you can gets you directionally correct, you can look at the data. What weakened the look at the data. What weakened the look at the data. What weakened the power of the American worker is largely, power of the American worker is largely, power of the American worker is largely, it's like 34% just straight-up it's like 34% just straight-up it's like 34% just straight-up globalization. globalization. globalization. >> But there's something to that though, >> But there's something to that though, >> But there's something to that though, because I think when we look at this because I think when we look at this because I think when we look at this chart of uh international investment, chart of uh international investment, chart of uh international investment, we're high-fiving each other like, "Yes, we're high-fiving each other like, "Yes, we're high-fiving each other like, "Yes, we have a bunch of capital inflows, the we have a bunch of capital inflows, the we have a bunch of capital inflows, the stock market's at all-time highs" and stock market's at all-time highs" and stock market's at all-time highs" and things like that. But is this just the things like that. But is this just the things like that. But is this just the same phenomenon, but instead of China same phenomenon, but instead of China same phenomenon, but instead of China taking our jobs, now they're taking our taking our jobs, now they're taking our taking our jobs, now they're taking our capital? Like, I'm not saying taking our capital? Like, I'm not saying taking our capital? Like, I'm not saying taking our capital, but they're capital, but they're capital, but they're >> It's literally the opposite. >> It's literally the opposite. >> It's literally the opposite. >> They're they're icing Americans out of >> They're they're icing Americans out of >> They're they're icing Americans out of the stock market because it's the stock market because it's the stock market because it's overpriced? overpriced? overpriced? >> It's not how the stock market works. So, >> It's not how the stock market works. So, >> It's not how the stock market works. So, the what they're doing is they are the what they're doing is they are the what they're doing is they are funding companies, those companies, if funding companies, those companies, if funding companies, those companies, if they are smart and we don't do dumb [ __ ] they are smart and we don't do dumb [ __ ] they are smart and we don't do dumb [ __ ] like taking stakes in companies and then like taking stakes in companies and then like taking stakes in companies and then telling them what the [ __ ] to do and telling them what the [ __ ] to do and telling them what the [ __ ] to do and what company to work. The way that the what company to work. The way that the what company to work. The way that the stock market works is yes, it's a stock market works is yes, it's a stock market works is yes, it's a vehicle for everybody to get wealthy, vehicle for everybody to get wealthy, vehicle for everybody to get wealthy, but it's also a way for the smartest but it's also a way for the smartest but it's also a way for the smartest people in the [ __ ] world when it people in the [ __ ] world when it people in the [ __ ] world when it comes to being entrepreneurs to comes to being entrepreneurs to comes to being entrepreneurs to aggregate capital and build new [ __ ] aggregate capital and build new [ __ ] aggregate capital and build new [ __ ] So, the only reason that Elon Musk has So, the only reason that Elon Musk has So, the only reason that Elon Musk has been able to do what he does is because been able to do what he does is because been able to do what he does is because of his access to capital. Now, we have of his access to capital. Now, we have of his access to capital. Now, we have been going in a private capital been going in a private capital been going in a private capital direction for way too long. That's direction for way too long. That's direction for way too long. That's terrible. I don't like to see it. I'd terrible. I don't like to see it. I'd terrible. I don't like to see it. I'd much rather see us in the public phase much rather see us in the public phase much rather see us in the public phase so that broader spectrum America can so that broader spectrum America can so that broader spectrum America can participate in this more. participate in this more. participate in this more. But just setting that aside, when you're But just setting that aside, when you're But just setting that aside, when you're taking in the capital, yes, there's taking in the capital, yes, there's taking in the capital, yes, there's going to be inflation of assets. There's going to be inflation of assets. There's going to be inflation of assets. There's no doubt about that. But if you get new no doubt about that. But if you get new no doubt about that. But if you get new companies being formed all the time companies being formed all the time companies being formed all the time because you've got a dynamic ecosystem because you've got a dynamic ecosystem because you've got a dynamic ecosystem where some companies go out of business, where some companies go out of business, where some companies go out of business, you're super Hawkeye you're super Hawkeye you're super Hawkeye watching for monopolies that have unjust watching for monopolies that have unjust watching for monopolies that have unjust motes. If you're avoiding regulatory motes. If you're avoiding regulatory motes. If you're avoiding regulatory capture like the plague, now you'll have capture like the plague, now you'll have capture like the plague, now you'll have a very dynamic industry. And you want as a very dynamic industry. And you want as a very dynamic industry. And you want as much money flowing into that as you can much money flowing into that as you can much money flowing into that as you can possibly get, especially given that we, possibly get, especially given that we, possibly get, especially given that we, like our thing, America's thing, is like our thing, America's thing, is like our thing, America's thing, is financializing everything. And so the financializing everything. And so the financializing everything. And so the big problem that we have isn't big problem that we have isn't big problem that we have isn't necessarily that we financialize necessarily that we financialize necessarily that we financialize everything, though I desperately want us everything, though I desperately want us everything, though I desperately want us to get back into manufacturing in a big, to get back into manufacturing in a big, to get back into manufacturing in a big, big, big, aggressive, huge way. But the big, big, aggressive, huge way. But the big, big, aggressive, huge way. But the big problem we have is we're not big problem we have is we're not big problem we have is we're not teaching people to get into that part of teaching people to get into that part of teaching people to get into that part of the economy. We love, by we I mean the the economy. We love, by we I mean the the economy. We love, by we I mean the [ __ ] elites, the politicians who are [ __ ] elites, the politicians who are [ __ ] elites, the politicians who are either too dumb or too sinister to either too dumb or too sinister to either too dumb or too sinister to understand what's going on. For sure the understand what's going on. For sure the understand what's going on. For sure the bankers know exactly what the [ __ ] is bankers know exactly what the [ __ ] is bankers know exactly what the [ __ ] is going on. But once we get out of deficit going on. But once we get out of deficit going on. But once we get out of deficit spending and doing the death spiral of spending and doing the death spiral of spending and doing the death spiral of money printing and using inflation and money printing and using inflation and money printing and using inflation and siphoning the wealth from everybody and siphoning the wealth from everybody and siphoning the wealth from everybody and feeding it back only into asset holders, feeding it back only into asset holders, feeding it back only into asset holders, if we either stop doing that or we make if we either stop doing that or we make if we either stop doing that or we make everybody asset holders, then you're in everybody asset holders, then you're in everybody asset holders, then you're in a much better position. So much of this a much better position. So much of this a much better position. So much of this problem goes away. Like let me just problem goes away. Like let me just problem goes away. Like let me just paint a picture of Japan for you for a paint a picture of Japan for you for a paint a picture of Japan for you for a second. Okay, everybody? We dropped two second. Okay, everybody? We dropped two second. Okay, everybody? We dropped two nuclear bombs nuclear bombs nuclear bombs on Japan. Okay? on Japan. Okay? on Japan. Okay? 40 years later, 40 years later, 40 years later, they were the richest country on Earth. they were the richest country on Earth. they were the richest country on Earth. 40 years later. 40 years later. 40 years later. And that wealth was spread across Japan And that wealth was spread across Japan And that wealth was spread across Japan so widely, so widely, so widely, they they were just balling, dude. they they were just balling, dude. they they were just balling, dude. >> Mhm. They were [ __ ] traveling >> Mhm. They were [ __ ] traveling >> Mhm. They were [ __ ] traveling everywhere in the '80s. If people didn't everywhere in the '80s. If people didn't everywhere in the '80s. If people didn't grow up in the '80s, they don't grow up in the '80s, they don't grow up in the '80s, they don't understand. Like, there There is a song understand. Like, there There is a song understand. Like, there There is a song God damn it, I forget which song it was. God damn it, I forget which song it was. God damn it, I forget which song it was. California Girls, I think, by Van Halen. California Girls, I think, by Van Halen. California Girls, I think, by Van Halen. And uh there's a the video opens with a And uh there's a the video opens with a And uh there's a the video opens with a bunch of Japanese tourists taking bunch of Japanese tourists taking bunch of Japanese tourists taking pictures of everything. That was like pictures of everything. That was like pictures of everything. That was like memes before there were memes was memes before there were memes was memes before there were memes was Japanese tourists just taking pictures Japanese tourists just taking pictures Japanese tourists just taking pictures of America because we were just like a of America because we were just like a of America because we were just like a destination for this country that was destination for this country that was destination for this country that was just radically outpacing us. Anyway, so just radically outpacing us. Anyway, so just radically outpacing us. Anyway, so that's what it looks like when you that's what it looks like when you that's what it looks like when you really get people involved in the really get people involved in the really get people involved in the like the boom, if you will. Now, their like the boom, if you will. Now, their like the boom, if you will. Now, their boom wasn't stock market, but when you boom wasn't stock market, but when you boom wasn't stock market, but when you get people involved in that boom, which get people involved in that boom, which get people involved in that boom, which if we're going to financialize if we're going to financialize if we're going to financialize everything, you've got to get people everything, you've got to get people everything, you've got to get people involved in that boom. When you spread involved in that boom. When you spread involved in that boom. When you spread it around, it's just good times. it around, it's just good times. it around, it's just good times. >> To your point though, the politicians, >> To your point though, the politicians, >> To your point though, the politicians, the elites, and things like that, the the elites, and things like that, the the elites, and things like that, the people that are shaping policy in the people that are shaping policy in the people that are shaping policy in the country, are they conflating cuz every country, are they conflating cuz every country, are they conflating cuz every time we talk about the stock market, we time we talk about the stock market, we time we talk about the stock market, we talk about it as a proxy for the US talk about it as a proxy for the US talk about it as a proxy for the US economy. The US economy's booming, stock economy. The US economy's booming, stock economy. The US economy's booming, stock market's new high, things have never market's new high, things have never market's new high, things have never been as higher. But when foreign been as higher. But when foreign been as higher. But when foreign investment is investment is investment is 10x, 8x what it was 10, 20 years ago, 10x, 8x what it was 10, 20 years ago, 10x, 8x what it was 10, 20 years ago, that inflates those numbers and that that inflates those numbers and that that inflates those numbers and that shows a success metric that might not shows a success metric that might not shows a success metric that might not actually be there. And then that's where actually be there. And then that's where actually be there. And then that's where the the the I'm just saying it like can we be I'm just saying it like can we be I'm just saying it like can we be blinded by the fact that stock market's blinded by the fact that stock market's blinded by the fact that stock market's hit a new high that we're not addressing hit a new high that we're not addressing hit a new high that we're not addressing actual things that Americans need actual things that Americans need actual things that Americans need because the foreign investment in the because the foreign investment in the because the foreign investment in the stock market pushing those assets higher stock market pushing those assets higher stock market pushing those assets higher are being clouded? are being clouded? are being clouded? >> Sort of. So, you're You can feel a thing >> Sort of. So, you're You can feel a thing >> Sort of. So, you're You can feel a thing that you know is a problem, that you know is a problem, that you know is a problem, uh and so when you look at that number, uh and so when you look at that number, uh and so when you look at that number, you don't get excited. But the problem you don't get excited. But the problem you don't get excited. But the problem isn't that the foreign dollars are isn't that the foreign dollars are isn't that the foreign dollars are coming in and inflating the asset coming in and inflating the asset coming in and inflating the asset prices. The problem is that people don't prices. The problem is that people don't prices. The problem is that people don't have access to that because they don't have access to that because they don't have access to that because they don't understand it. So, it just drives more understand it. So, it just drives more understand it. So, it just drives more wealth inequality. So, if you look at wealth inequality. So, if you look at wealth inequality. So, if you look at this chart and you go, "Okay, cool. Hey, this chart and you go, "Okay, cool. Hey, this chart and you go, "Okay, cool. Hey, one side of the [ __ ] equation is one side of the [ __ ] equation is one side of the [ __ ] equation is working, but the other is the working, but the other is the working, but the other is the discrepancy between productivity and discrepancy between productivity and discrepancy between productivity and what the average worker is capturing." what the average worker is capturing." what the average worker is capturing." So, until I think it was So, until I think it was So, until I think it was in the '70s or '80s, in the '70s or '80s, in the '70s or '80s, uh you start getting a break between uh you start getting a break between uh you start getting a break between what the I don't think it maps to '71 what the I don't think it maps to '71 what the I don't think it maps to '71 like that, but you do start getting this like that, but you do start getting this like that, but you do start getting this break between the productivity that a break between the productivity that a break between the productivity that a company is able to generate and then the company is able to generate and then the company is able to generate and then the average worker, how much of that average worker, how much of that average worker, how much of that productivity are they able to capture? productivity are they able to capture? productivity are they able to capture? And so, you've got to get back to a And so, you've got to get back to a And so, you've got to get back to a place and you can't do it from the top place and you can't do it from the top place and you can't do it from the top down. This is what drives me nuts. down. This is what drives me nuts. down. This is what drives me nuts. People will often get the problem right, People will often get the problem right, People will often get the problem right, but they get the solution wrong. And so, but they get the solution wrong. And so, but they get the solution wrong. And so, you've got to create an environment you've got to create an environment you've got to create an environment where um the workers in a stronger where um the workers in a stronger where um the workers in a stronger position. The single biggest thing that position. The single biggest thing that position. The single biggest thing that you can do, it's not unions. You can you can do, it's not unions. You can you can do, it's not unions. You can look at the [ __ ] numbers. It's not look at the [ __ ] numbers. It's not look at the [ __ ] numbers. It's not unions. The single biggest thing that unions. The single biggest thing that unions. The single biggest thing that you can do is to deglobalize so that you can do is to deglobalize so that you can do is to deglobalize so that there is, whether it's tariffs or there is, whether it's tariffs or there is, whether it's tariffs or something far more brilliant, but you've something far more brilliant, but you've something far more brilliant, but you've got a reason why the companies need to got a reason why the companies need to got a reason why the companies need to be here. They need to make [ __ ] here be here. They need to make [ __ ] here be here. They need to make [ __ ] here because you want to put workers in a because you want to put workers in a because you want to put workers in a position where they are able to build position where they are able to build position where they are able to build their skill set up. You can actually their skill set up. You can actually their skill set up. You can actually track this. track this. track this. Uh industry calls for more talented Uh industry calls for more talented Uh industry calls for more talented workers, but at what rate? And so, if workers, but at what rate? And so, if workers, but at what rate? And so, if you get people getting educated faster you get people getting educated faster you get people getting educated faster than the corporations call for talent, than the corporations call for talent, than the corporations call for talent, then they find themselves you get an then they find themselves you get an then they find themselves you get an overproduction. So, they become cheap. overproduction. So, they become cheap. overproduction. So, they become cheap. But if you get the other way, like But if you get the other way, like But if you get the other way, like industry really needs talented people, industry really needs talented people, industry really needs talented people, but they're just not able to get as many but they're just not able to get as many but they're just not able to get as many as they need. Now, they're all fighting as they need. Now, they're all fighting as they need. Now, they're all fighting for the ones that are awesome. And so, for the ones that are awesome. And so, for the ones that are awesome. And so, that's start putting workers in a better that's start putting workers in a better that's start putting workers in a better position. But we've we've got to get position. But we've we've got to get position. But we've we've got to get back to a workforce that is more back to a workforce that is more back to a workforce that is more powerful. But all the things that we put powerful. But all the things that we put powerful. But all the things that we put forward are born of resentment, and so forward are born of resentment, and so forward are born of resentment, and so all those ideas come from the left and all those ideas come from the left and all those ideas come from the left and they're universally stupid and they will they're universally stupid and they will they're universally stupid and they will end up breaking the actual engine of end up breaking the actual engine of end up breaking the actual engine of prosperity. That's the problem. So, it's prosperity. That's the problem. So, it's prosperity. That's the problem. So, it's like, what are the things that we can do like, what are the things that we can do like, what are the things that we can do to make sure that the economy's to make sure that the economy's to make sure that the economy's functioning, that new companies are functioning, that new companies are functioning, that new companies are starting all the time, that we have starting all the time, that we have starting all the time, that we have people starting uh small companies that people starting uh small companies that people starting uh small companies that are going to like have access to, you are going to like have access to, you are going to like have access to, you know, that broad spectrum of people. And know, that broad spectrum of people. And know, that broad spectrum of people. And so, that like that's where we've got to so, that like that's where we've got to so, that like that's where we've got to get people focusing. Now, everyone knows get people focusing. Now, everyone knows get people focusing. Now, everyone knows my preference. I would rather they just my preference. I would rather they just my preference. I would rather they just stop stealing from people that save stop stealing from people that save stop stealing from people that save money, but if we could do that plus get money, but if we could do that plus get money, but if we could do that plus get people into assets plus people into assets plus people into assets plus make sure that we recognize that workers make sure that we recognize that workers make sure that we recognize that workers have to be in a better position or we have to be in a better position or we have to be in a better position or we are [ __ ] are [ __ ] are [ __ ] >> You started this by saying it's an >> You started this by saying it's an >> You started this by saying it's an education problem. education problem. education problem. If we educated, you said when we were If we educated, you said when we were If we educated, you said when we were talking about the inflows and the talking about the inflows and the talking about the inflows and the K-shaped economy, people not capturing K-shaped economy, people not capturing K-shaped economy, people not capturing into the into the into the >> They don't know about assets. Yes, >> They don't know about assets. Yes, >> They don't know about assets. Yes, education on assets. Correct. education on assets. Correct. education on assets. Correct. >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh is this something that if we just is this something that if we just is this something that if we just started started started a education tour, we showed people how a education tour, we showed people how a education tour, we showed people how to invest, we matched them $10 for every to invest, we matched them $10 for every to invest, we matched them $10 for every $10 they put in. I'm being facetious, $10 they put in. I'm being facetious, $10 they put in. I'm being facetious, but like if we actually educated the but like if we actually educated the but like if we actually educated the masses and more people got into the masses and more people got into the masses and more people got into the stock market, do you think that would stock market, do you think that would stock market, do you think that would solve the inequality process? solve the inequality process? solve the inequality process? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> It It >> It It >> It It >> Mechanically, it would solve the >> Mechanically, it would solve the >> Mechanically, it would solve the problem. problem. problem. >> Copy. >> Copy. >> Copy. >> So, it's the same It's actually better >> So, it's the same It's actually better >> So, it's the same It's actually better than owning a house because owning a than owning a house because owning a than owning a house because owning a house takes so much upkeep, but if you house takes so much upkeep, but if you house takes so much upkeep, but if you if if from the second you were born, if if from the second you were born, if if from the second you were born, you were getting money put into the you were getting money put into the you were getting money put into the instead of like Social Security, you instead of like Social Security, you instead of like Social Security, you were getting it put into something like were getting it put into something like were getting it put into something like the S&P 500. the S&P 500. the S&P 500. And that's just compounding in the And that's just compounding in the And that's just compounding in the background. It's growing and growing and background. It's growing and growing and background. It's growing and growing and growing and growing, and the government growing and growing, and the government growing and growing, and the government in is just in is just in is just pulling something out of your paycheck pulling something out of your paycheck pulling something out of your paycheck and putting it right into that like they and putting it right into that like they and putting it right into that like they do with Social Security. And now that do with Social Security. And now that do with Social Security. And now that it's going to go up and down as stock it's going to go up and down as stock it's going to go up and down as stock markets will, but because you're markets will, but because you're markets will, but because you're effectively forcing them to save for effectively forcing them to save for effectively forcing them to save for almost two decades before they're going almost two decades before they're going almost two decades before they're going to touch it, there has never been a to touch it, there has never been a to touch it, there has never been a 20-year period where somebody wasn't 20-year period where somebody wasn't 20-year period where somebody wasn't better off than where they started. Net better off than where they started. Net better off than where they started. Net literally, not since the stock market literally, not since the stock market literally, not since the stock market came into existence. came into existence. came into existence. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. >> So, it's like that is where Oh my god, >> So, it's like that is where Oh my god, >> So, it's like that is where Oh my god, that would be a win. Like I can imagine that would be a win. Like I can imagine that would be a win. Like I can imagine parents I mean, think about you with parents I mean, think about you with parents I mean, think about you with your daughter. your daughter. your daughter. Imagine when Trump's like banging on Imagine when Trump's like banging on Imagine when Trump's like banging on about the stock market is at all-time about the stock market is at all-time about the stock market is at all-time highs, you know that in 4 years your highs, you know that in 4 years your highs, you know that in 4 years your daughter will be able to start drawing daughter will be able to start drawing daughter will be able to start drawing some of that money. some of that money. some of that money. You'll be like, "Fuck yeah. Like, keep You'll be like, "Fuck yeah. Like, keep You'll be like, "Fuck yeah. Like, keep going. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Drive going. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Drive going. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Drive that higher. Go, go, go." Because you're that higher. Go, go, go." Because you're that higher. Go, go, go." Because you're participating in it, your daughter's participating in it, your daughter's participating in it, your daughter's participating in it. Now it's not a participating in it. Now it's not a participating in it. Now it's not a thing that happens to somebody else. thing that happens to somebody else. thing that happens to somebody else. It's a thing you directly benefit from. It's a thing you directly benefit from. It's a thing you directly benefit from. And then I would like to think people And then I would like to think people And then I would like to think people would get paranoid about, "Hey, don't as would get paranoid about, "Hey, don't as would get paranoid about, "Hey, don't as the government, you're [ __ ] dumb, the government, you're [ __ ] dumb, the government, you're [ __ ] dumb, don't as the government decide what don't as the government decide what don't as the government decide what companies are going to succeed or fail. companies are going to succeed or fail. companies are going to succeed or fail. I don't care. I'm invested in an index, I don't care. I'm invested in an index, I don't care. I'm invested in an index, so I don't care which company is so I don't care which company is so I don't care which company is successful. I just need a company to be successful. I just need a company to be successful. I just need a company to be successful. In fact, I don't want you successful. In fact, I don't want you successful. In fact, I don't want you putting me into individual companies putting me into individual companies putting me into individual companies because I don't know if they're going to because I don't know if they're going to because I don't know if they're going to survive. Because OpenAI, Anthropic, they survive. Because OpenAI, Anthropic, they survive. Because OpenAI, Anthropic, they may legitimately not survive what's may legitimately not survive what's may legitimately not survive what's happening in AI right now, which is why happening in AI right now, which is why happening in AI right now, which is why both of them are going for regulatory both of them are going for regulatory both of them are going for regulatory capture. Because they're like, "Uh-oh, capture. Because they're like, "Uh-oh, capture. Because they're like, "Uh-oh, the government is slowing us down now the government is slowing us down now the government is slowing us down now because our models are getting so because our models are getting so because our models are getting so powerful that they're actually scary." powerful that they're actually scary." powerful that they're actually scary." And so, uh, that's slowing down. And And so, uh, that's slowing down. And And so, uh, that's slowing down. And corporations are like, "Hey, this corporations are like, "Hey, this corporations are like, "Hey, this doesn't do all of the things that we doesn't do all of the things that we doesn't do all of the things that we needed to do yet or at least the cost needed to do yet or at least the cost needed to do yet or at least the cost structure isn't there." So, now they're structure isn't there." So, now they're structure isn't there." So, now they're pulling back. So, now you've got this pulling back. So, now you've got this pulling back. So, now you've got this insane debt that continues to grow. insane debt that continues to grow. insane debt that continues to grow. Plus, you have interest rate payments Plus, you have interest rate payments Plus, you have interest rate payments you have to make. And you're getting a you have to make. And you're getting a you have to make. And you're getting a slowing down, a double whammy of slowing down, a double whammy of slowing down, a double whammy of government is slowing you down, plus government is slowing you down, plus government is slowing you down, plus you're getting the slow down of just you're getting the slow down of just you're getting the slow down of just corporations being like, "Uh, corporations being like, "Uh, corporations being like, "Uh, like, we got a little out over our skis like, we got a little out over our skis like, we got a little out over our skis here. We're going to back off." Now here. We're going to back off." Now here. We're going to back off." Now you're like, "Fuck, I don't know if you're like, "Fuck, I don't know if you're like, "Fuck, I don't know if we're going to survive." And so, even we're going to survive." And so, even we're going to survive." And so, even though you may have built all the though you may have built all the though you may have built all the infrastructure and done all that, it infrastructure and done all that, it infrastructure and done all that, it might be the next run of companies that might be the next run of companies that might be the next run of companies that are going to take advantage of that. We are going to take advantage of that. We are going to take advantage of that. We want to make sure that kids are in on it want to make sure that kids are in on it want to make sure that kids are in on it and that they don't care if it's them or and that they don't care if it's them or and that they don't care if it's them or the next person. If you roll off and the the next person. If you roll off and the the next person. If you roll off and the next person comes in, great, so be it. next person comes in, great, so be it. next person comes in, great, so be it. Now listen, trauma like that will take a Now listen, trauma like that will take a Now listen, trauma like that will take a very long time to recover from. So, very long time to recover from. So, very long time to recover from. So, people need to be very honest. Getting people need to be very honest. Getting people need to be very honest. Getting in the stock market does not mean you in the stock market does not mean you in the stock market does not mean you don't need a job. And it doesn't mean don't need a job. And it doesn't mean don't need a job. And it doesn't mean you should be thinking you're retiring you should be thinking you're retiring you should be thinking you're retiring at 18. It should be you continuing to at 18. It should be you continuing to at 18. It should be you continuing to put money away in that. Uh but you have put money away in that. Uh but you have put money away in that. Uh but you have that emergency fund if you need it. that emergency fund if you need it. that emergency fund if you need it. Ideally, you let it ride until you Ideally, you let it ride until you Ideally, you let it ride until you retire because by then, god damn. We ran retire because by then, god damn. We ran retire because by then, god damn. We ran the math. Caleb uh Hammer did something the math. Caleb uh Hammer did something the math. Caleb uh Hammer did something on this where it was like if you had put on this where it was like if you had put on this where it was like if you had put I forget how much, 10% I think of each I forget how much, 10% I think of each I forget how much, 10% I think of each of your paychecks based on a real of your paychecks based on a real of your paychecks based on a real paycheck from like 1990, paycheck from like 1990, paycheck from like 1990, um in 2025 or 2026 it was worth $2.5 um in 2025 or 2026 it was worth $2.5 um in 2025 or 2026 it was worth $2.5 million. million. million. So, it's like So, it's like So, it's like That's exactly what we're trying to do, That's exactly what we're trying to do, That's exactly what we're trying to do, invite people into. invite people into. invite people into. >> Um cool. Speaking of the AI boom, um >> Um cool. Speaking of the AI boom, um >> Um cool. Speaking of the AI boom, um Bill Gurley, friend of the show, said Bill Gurley, friend of the show, said Bill Gurley, friend of the show, said this is why Anthropic is causing is this is why Anthropic is causing is this is why Anthropic is causing is aggressively begging for government aggressively begging for government aggressively begging for government protection. See below, customers are protection. See below, customers are protection. See below, customers are finding cheaper alternatives, keeping finding cheaper alternatives, keeping finding cheaper alternatives, keeping the employees require keeping employees the employees require keeping employees the employees require keeping employees requires continuing ultra-rich requires continuing ultra-rich requires continuing ultra-rich secondaries that are dependent on secondaries that are dependent on secondaries that are dependent on revenue growth. When you can't win on revenue growth. When you can't win on revenue growth. When you can't win on the field, go to DC. And this is after the field, go to DC. And this is after the field, go to DC. And this is after UBS Group found that 60% of companies UBS Group found that 60% of companies UBS Group found that 60% of companies now are watching their AI budgets and now are watching their AI budgets and now are watching their AI budgets and are moving to cheaper models and the are moving to cheaper models and the are moving to cheaper models and the open source Chinese models. China open source Chinese models. China open source Chinese models. China strikes again. strikes again. strikes again. Seems like we should just stop trading Seems like we should just stop trading Seems like we should just stop trading them up and giving them access to our them up and giving them access to our them up and giving them access to our infrastructure and they just keep infrastructure and they just keep infrastructure and they just keep winning. winning. winning. >> Listen, there there is a lot of truth to >> Listen, there there is a lot of truth to >> Listen, there there is a lot of truth to that, but we also need to recognize that that, but we also need to recognize that that, but we also need to recognize that this is how revolutionary new this is how revolutionary new this is how revolutionary new technologies go. This is why I did a technologies go. This is why I did a technologies go. This is why I did a whole deep dive about um whole deep dive about um whole deep dive about um every time if you look back in history, every time if you look back in history, every time if you look back in history, go back to the railroads, go back to the railroads, go back to the railroads, when a revolutionary technology comes when a revolutionary technology comes when a revolutionary technology comes into existence, what ends up happening into existence, what ends up happening into existence, what ends up happening is usually the first wave of investors is usually the first wave of investors is usually the first wave of investors get wiped out. get wiped out. get wiped out. There's just too big of a gap between There's just too big of a gap between There's just too big of a gap between when you have to make the really when you have to make the really when you have to make the really expensive investments and when the money expensive investments and when the money expensive investments and when the money actually starts flowing in and people actually starts flowing in and people actually starts flowing in and people usually do it on debt and so the debt usually do it on debt and so the debt usually do it on debt and so the debt comes due before the revenues come in. comes due before the revenues come in. comes due before the revenues come in. They get stuck, they get liquidated. They get stuck, they get liquidated. They get stuck, they get liquidated. That's just a tale as old as time. But That's just a tale as old as time. But That's just a tale as old as time. But the infrastructure's there and so the the infrastructure's there and so the the infrastructure's there and so the next company comes along and takes next company comes along and takes next company comes along and takes advantage of that. So, Google didn't advantage of that. So, Google didn't advantage of that. So, Google didn't have to lay the fiber optic cable, the have to lay the fiber optic cable, the have to lay the fiber optic cable, the companies that did went out of business, companies that did went out of business, companies that did went out of business, but Google was was to build one of the but Google was was to build one of the but Google was was to build one of the most um profitable companies the world most um profitable companies the world most um profitable companies the world has ever seen on the back of somebody has ever seen on the back of somebody has ever seen on the back of somebody else's catastrophic failure. So, we want else's catastrophic failure. So, we want else's catastrophic failure. So, we want to be in a position where I mean, us as to be in a position where I mean, us as to be in a position where I mean, us as individuals just don't care whether it's individuals just don't care whether it's individuals just don't care whether it's Open AI, whether it's Anthropic, whether Open AI, whether it's Anthropic, whether Open AI, whether it's Anthropic, whether it's X.ai, I don't care. As long as it's X.ai, I don't care. As long as it's X.ai, I don't care. As long as somebody is able to get this over the somebody is able to get this over the somebody is able to get this over the finish line and we get access to that finish line and we get access to that finish line and we get access to that incredible technology. So, incredible technology. So, incredible technology. So, yeah. This this is exactly what you're yeah. This this is exactly what you're yeah. This this is exactly what you're up against. Right now, they want to get up against. Right now, they want to get up against. Right now, they want to get glued to the government. They want the glued to the government. They want the glued to the government. They want the government to come in and use regulatory government to come in and use regulatory government to come in and use regulatory capture. So, the government cares very capture. So, the government cares very capture. So, the government cares very much that they end up making it and will much that they end up making it and will much that they end up making it and will support them and create laws to keep support them and create laws to keep support them and create laws to keep other people out. other people out. other people out. It is a terrible idea that greatly It is a terrible idea that greatly It is a terrible idea that greatly diminishes diminishes diminishes people's ability to compete. people's ability to compete. people's ability to compete. And then we all lose. And then we all lose. And then we all lose. >> Um >> Um >> Um We talked about this a couple shows ago. We talked about this a couple shows ago. We talked about this a couple shows ago. I feel like AI is going to be go similar I feel like AI is going to be go similar I feel like AI is going to be go similar in the way that the internet did. When in the way that the internet did. When in the way that the internet did. When the internet dropped, it was Netscape, the internet dropped, it was Netscape, the internet dropped, it was Netscape, it was AOL, it was it was AOL, it was it was AOL, it was Net Zero, all these internet providers. Net Zero, all these internet providers. Net Zero, all these internet providers. These were the These are the internet These were the These are the internet These were the These are the internet companies. This is the future dot com companies. This is the future dot com companies. This is the future dot com bubble. All those companies are gone and bubble. All those companies are gone and bubble. All those companies are gone and instead we have Chrome, we got instead we have Chrome, we got instead we have Chrome, we got Gmail, like we have these other entities Gmail, like we have these other entities Gmail, like we have these other entities that are built on the internet that is that are built on the internet that is that are built on the internet that is actually thriving. We have PayPal, we actually thriving. We have PayPal, we actually thriving. We have PayPal, we have eBay, all these other companies. have eBay, all these other companies. have eBay, all these other companies. And I feel like unfortunately for AI, And I feel like unfortunately for AI, And I feel like unfortunately for AI, they have footed the bills for data they have footed the bills for data they have footed the bills for data centers and all these things. And I just centers and all these things. And I just centers and all these things. And I just think at this point the value that they think at this point the value that they think at this point the value that they bring doesn't justify the revenues that bring doesn't justify the revenues that bring doesn't justify the revenues that they are trading against. Um even Yann they are trading against. Um even Yann they are trading against. Um even Yann LeCun is being highly critical of X.ai LeCun is being highly critical of X.ai LeCun is being highly critical of X.ai and Tesla. And he's saying they're now and Tesla. And he's saying they're now and Tesla. And he's saying they're now going to renting out their data spaces going to renting out their data spaces going to renting out their data spaces because they cannot afford to build because they cannot afford to build because they cannot afford to build internally. They don't have the talent. internally. They don't have the talent. internally. They don't have the talent. It's too competitive. The The market's It's too competitive. The The market's It's too competitive. The The market's too saturated. There's open source free too saturated. There's open source free too saturated. There's open source free models competing with models that have a models competing with models that have a models competing with models that have a $400 billion $400 billion $400 billion uh uh uh uh infrastructure cost before they even uh infrastructure cost before they even uh infrastructure cost before they even release it. So, it's like you either release it. So, it's like you either release it. So, it's like you either getting like it's going to be an uphill getting like it's going to be an uphill getting like it's going to be an uphill battle for them. I thought there would battle for them. I thought there would battle for them. I thought there would probably like the five will turn into probably like the five will turn into probably like the five will turn into two, so two, so two, so cursor already kind of fizzled away. cursor already kind of fizzled away. cursor already kind of fizzled away. He's going to get rolled over to XAI. I He's going to get rolled over to XAI. I He's going to get rolled over to XAI. I feel like that consolidation is going to feel like that consolidation is going to feel like that consolidation is going to happen again and we'll probably have one happen again and we'll probably have one happen again and we'll probably have one or two and then everybody else is going or two and then everybody else is going or two and then everybody else is going to go out of business. to go out of business. to go out of business. >> Yeah, and then the next wave will come >> Yeah, and then the next wave will come >> Yeah, and then the next wave will come in and they'll innovate and they'll make in and they'll innovate and they'll make in and they'll innovate and they'll make the things that we all go, "Oh my god, the things that we all go, "Oh my god, the things that we all go, "Oh my god, this is amazing." And then as many this is amazing." And then as many this is amazing." And then as many people have predicted, the the people have predicted, the the people have predicted, the the foundational model becomes foundational model becomes foundational model becomes um a commodity. And it's like, "Yeah, um a commodity. And it's like, "Yeah, um a commodity. And it's like, "Yeah, okay, cool. Like that's those are the okay, cool. Like that's those are the okay, cool. Like that's those are the models. Those guys do their thing, but models. Those guys do their thing, but models. Those guys do their thing, but the real money is the company that the real money is the company that the real money is the company that builds something that leverages the builds something that leverages the builds something that leverages the foundational intelligence to foundational intelligence to foundational intelligence to do like the actual like, "Oh, I'm trying do like the actual like, "Oh, I'm trying do like the actual like, "Oh, I'm trying to, for instance, somebody please, for to, for instance, somebody please, for to, for instance, somebody please, for the love of God, make a pipeline for the love of God, make a pipeline for the love of God, make a pipeline for games that's just easy peasy, so I'm not games that's just easy peasy, so I'm not games that's just easy peasy, so I'm not having to cobble different things having to cobble different things having to cobble different things together." Like that would be insanely together." Like that would be insanely together." Like that would be insanely beneficial. beneficial. beneficial. >> uh >> uh >> uh what is it? Um what is it? Um what is it? Um the engine Unreal Engine released the the engine Unreal Engine released the the engine Unreal Engine released the MCP server or whatever. They like to MCP server or whatever. They like to MCP server or whatever. They like to >> Um yes, true. I'm very impressed. No, I >> Um yes, true. I'm very impressed. No, I >> Um yes, true. I'm very impressed. No, I love that. Let's go. love that. Let's go. love that. Let's go. >> is like a big deal. That is >> is like a big deal. That is >> is like a big deal. That is >> Well, it will be a big deal. It's not >> Well, it will be a big deal. It's not >> Well, it will be a big deal. It's not quite yet. quite yet. quite yet. Um but yes, that that is a sign that Um but yes, that that is a sign that Um but yes, that that is a sign that they're going in the right direction and they're going in the right direction and they're going in the right direction and that's going to get better and better that's going to get better and better that's going to get better and better and it's going to be absolutely and it's going to be absolutely and it's going to be absolutely incredible. And their big prediction is incredible. And their big prediction is incredible. And their big prediction is when we drop six, basically, like it's when we drop six, basically, like it's when we drop six, basically, like it's all just going to be completely all just going to be completely all just going to be completely integrated. AI will do a ton of the integrated. AI will do a ton of the integrated. AI will do a ton of the coding for you. Uh but it can coding for you. Uh but it can coding for you. Uh but it can theoretically now allow you to update theoretically now allow you to update theoretically now allow you to update blueprints. It's a little shaky for now, blueprints. It's a little shaky for now, blueprints. It's a little shaky for now, but I expect that to get better over but I expect that to get better over but I expect that to get better over time. And I think ultimately AI will time. And I think ultimately AI will time. And I think ultimately AI will make game development effectively make game development effectively make game development effectively trivial uh from the technical side, trivial uh from the technical side, trivial uh from the technical side, which is phenomenal, but we're not there which is phenomenal, but we're not there which is phenomenal, but we're not there yet. But anyway, it'll be people that do yet. But anyway, it'll be people that do yet. But anyway, it'll be people that do things like that. They build an things like that. They build an things like that. They build an interface layer where you don't have to interface layer where you don't have to interface layer where you don't have to even know or think about um what are the even know or think about um what are the even know or think about um what are the control weights and all that kind of control weights and all that kind of control weights and all that kind of [ __ ] It's like they make this kind of [ __ ] It's like they make this kind of [ __ ] It's like they make this kind of thing just like really seamless for the thing just like really seamless for the thing just like really seamless for the user. You tell it what you want and it user. You tell it what you want and it user. You tell it what you want and it gives it to you. And when we do that, gives it to you. And when we do that, gives it to you. And when we do that, which will probably be on the back of a which will probably be on the back of a which will probably be on the back of a lot of people losing a lot of money lot of people losing a lot of money lot of people losing a lot of money because that debt will just go bad, because that debt will just go bad, because that debt will just go bad, that's where it gets scary because of that's where it gets scary because of that's where it gets scary because of 2008 practices. I don't want to drag us 2008 practices. I don't want to drag us 2008 practices. I don't want to drag us down that rabbit hole, but just know down that rabbit hole, but just know down that rabbit hole, but just know there's a rabbit hole there. there's a rabbit hole there. there's a rabbit hole there. Um but that's where this will all, I Um but that's where this will all, I Um but that's where this will all, I think, play out wonderfully, but it's think, play out wonderfully, but it's think, play out wonderfully, but it's not going to be an only up phenomenon. not going to be an only up phenomenon. not going to be an only up phenomenon. Like there's going to be brutality Like there's going to be brutality Like there's going to be brutality between here and there. Which is why between here and there. Which is why between here and there. Which is why don't over index on any one company. don't over index on any one company. don't over index on any one company. Don't over index on any one industry. Don't over index on any one industry. Don't over index on any one industry. Like make sure that you are well Like make sure that you are well Like make sure that you are well diversified. I know that's not sexy, but diversified. I know that's not sexy, but diversified. I know that's not sexy, but ooh, buddy. Uh getting the timing wrong ooh, buddy. Uh getting the timing wrong ooh, buddy. Uh getting the timing wrong is the same as being wrong. So, be is the same as being wrong. So, be is the same as being wrong. So, be careful. careful. careful. >> Here's the line uh the Yann LeCun uh >> Here's the line uh the Yann LeCun uh >> Here's the line uh the Yann LeCun uh quote. quote. quote. >> XAI is kind of a failure. >> XAI is kind of a failure. >> XAI is kind of a failure. Frankly, because the the founding team Frankly, because the the founding team Frankly, because the the founding team has left. has left. has left. Uh Uh Uh or was fired. There's some uncertainty or was fired. There's some uncertainty or was fired. There's some uncertainty about this. about this. about this. Uh and Elon is not in a position that is Uh and Elon is not in a position that is Uh and Elon is not in a position that is very, very difficult for him to kind of very, very difficult for him to kind of very, very difficult for him to kind of find hire top people in AI because find hire top people in AI because find hire top people in AI because um because he's kind of um because he's kind of um because he's kind of you know, you know, you know, not behaved in sort of very good good not behaved in sort of very good good not behaved in sort of very good good ways toward the the current the previous ways toward the the current the previous ways toward the the current the previous team. team. team. Um Um Um so, now he's got this huge so, now he's got this huge so, now he's got this huge infrastructure infrastructure infrastructure which he rents to other people. which he rents to other people. which he rents to other people. Because that's the only way he can uh Because that's the only way he can uh Because that's the only way he can uh recoup the the cost. So, recoup the the cost. So, recoup the the cost. So, >> Now, these two have clashed on cuz if >> Now, these two have clashed on cuz if >> Now, these two have clashed on cuz if you guys couldn't hear the beginning of you guys couldn't hear the beginning of you guys couldn't hear the beginning of that, he was saying XAI is kind of a that, he was saying XAI is kind of a that, he was saying XAI is kind of a failure. failure. failure. Um so, these guys have clashed on X Um so, these guys have clashed on X Um so, these guys have clashed on X before. So, I imagine he's maybe a before. So, I imagine he's maybe a before. So, I imagine he's maybe a little too eager to see Elon fail. little too eager to see Elon fail. little too eager to see Elon fail. Uh and maybe Uh and maybe Uh and maybe um um um unwise at this stage to bet against unwise at this stage to bet against unwise at this stage to bet against Elon. Elon. Elon. Uh so, I'd be a little bit careful with Uh so, I'd be a little bit careful with Uh so, I'd be a little bit careful with prognostications that he's not going to prognostications that he's not going to prognostications that he's not going to be able to do something. Elon approaches be able to do something. Elon approaches be able to do something. Elon approaches things like an engineer um and things like an engineer um and things like an engineer um and he'll, I think, be able to attract he'll, I think, be able to attract he'll, I think, be able to attract talent. So, he's that they built the talent. So, he's that they built the talent. So, he's that they built the infrastructure the wrong way from the infrastructure the wrong way from the infrastructure the wrong way from the team perspective. Uh so, he didn't get team perspective. Uh so, he didn't get team perspective. Uh so, he didn't get what he thought he needed out of the what he thought he needed out of the what he thought he needed out of the team. He's shown before, whether it's team. He's shown before, whether it's team. He's shown before, whether it's with X, whether it's with Tesla, both with X, whether it's with Tesla, both with X, whether it's with Tesla, both places he did the same thing, and then places he did the same thing, and then places he did the same thing, and then he rebuilt them better than ever. So, he rebuilt them better than ever. So, he rebuilt them better than ever. So, anyway, remember, Elon only gets paid if anyway, remember, Elon only gets paid if anyway, remember, Elon only gets paid if he pulls off effectively the impossible. he pulls off effectively the impossible. he pulls off effectively the impossible. Um so, I doubt very much this is a guy Um so, I doubt very much this is a guy Um so, I doubt very much this is a guy that's just going to sit on his laurels, that's just going to sit on his laurels, that's just going to sit on his laurels, and his track record is quite frankly and his track record is quite frankly and his track record is quite frankly unparalleled in human history. So, unparalleled in human history. So, unparalleled in human history. So, anyway, I'm not one to bet against him anyway, I'm not one to bet against him anyway, I'm not one to bet against him yet. yet. yet. >> Um okay, I'm looking to pull the actual >> Um okay, I'm looking to pull the actual >> Um okay, I'm looking to pull the actual footage, but it hasn't been released footage, but it hasn't been released footage, but it hasn't been released from the manufacturers of GTA 6. from the manufacturers of GTA 6. from the manufacturers of GTA 6. But, um allegedly, GTA 6 has surpassed But, um allegedly, GTA 6 has surpassed But, um allegedly, GTA 6 has surpassed 39 million copies in pre-order. It comes 39 million copies in pre-order. It comes 39 million copies in pre-order. It comes out in November, 5 months before it out in November, 5 months before it out in November, 5 months before it drops, and it's generated over 3 billion drops, and it's generated over 3 billion drops, and it's generated over 3 billion in revenue. The estimated ticket was 1.5 in revenue. The estimated ticket was 1.5 in revenue. The estimated ticket was 1.5 to 2 billion to cost, so they already to 2 billion to cost, so they already to 2 billion to cost, so they already made their money back, and it hasn't made their money back, and it hasn't made their money back, and it hasn't even dropped. No DLCs, no pay-to-play, even dropped. No DLCs, no pay-to-play, even dropped. No DLCs, no pay-to-play, nothing. Sheesh. nothing. Sheesh. nothing. Sheesh. >> Two tack-ons to that. So, the source was >> Two tack-ons to that. So, the source was >> Two tack-ons to that. So, the source was a French retailer, which is where that a French retailer, which is where that a French retailer, which is where that number comes from for context. And the number comes from for context. And the number comes from for context. And the other thing is, it's probably higher other thing is, it's probably higher other thing is, it's probably higher than 3 billion, because there was a than 3 billion, because there was a than 3 billion, because there was a independent gaming group that a lot of independent gaming group that a lot of independent gaming group that a lot of the gaming community follows online, and the gaming community follows online, and the gaming community follows online, and they did a poll of which version of the they did a poll of which version of the they did a poll of which version of the game are you buying, cuz there's the $80 game are you buying, cuz there's the $80 game are you buying, cuz there's the $80 version and the $100 version. And version and the $100 version. And version and the $100 version. And overwhelmingly, I think it was like overwhelmingly, I think it was like overwhelmingly, I think it was like 40,000 people voted, and it was 80% 40,000 people voted, and it was 80% 40,000 people voted, and it was 80% $100. $100. $100. >> Woah. >> Woah. >> Woah. >> Everybody thought it was going to cost >> Everybody thought it was going to cost >> Everybody thought it was going to cost $100, so I was like That's the theory $100, so I was like That's the theory $100, so I was like That's the theory right now, is that the $100 version was right now, is that the $100 version was right now, is that the $100 version was the original game, but they were worried the original game, but they were worried the original game, but they were worried about the backlash to $100, so they about the backlash to $100, so they about the backlash to $100, so they locked some of the content behind a locked some of the content behind a locked some of the content behind a wall, put it in the ultimate edition, wall, put it in the ultimate edition, wall, put it in the ultimate edition, and then made the $80 version. So, and then made the $80 version. So, and then made the $80 version. So, that's the working theory right now that that's the working theory right now that that's the working theory right now that the community is working off of. the community is working off of. the community is working off of. >> Did you pre-order? >> Did you pre-order? >> Did you pre-order? >> Uh so, I'm waiting because it's only >> Uh so, I'm waiting because it's only >> Uh so, I'm waiting because it's only digital. So, that's a whole 'nother digital. So, that's a whole 'nother digital. So, that's a whole 'nother conversation with it is, I'm just going conversation with it is, I'm just going conversation with it is, I'm just going to buy it the night before. to buy it the night before. to buy it the night before. >> They said they are going to do a >> They said they are going to do a >> They said they are going to do a physical game. It just won't come out, I physical game. It just won't come out, I physical game. It just won't come out, I think, until after release. think, until after release. think, until after release. >> Which they haven't confirmed it, so that >> Which they haven't confirmed it, so that >> Which they haven't confirmed it, so that physical thing could still just be physical thing could still just be physical thing could still just be talking about like physical collector's talking about like physical collector's talking about like physical collector's editions with the code. So, we still editions with the code. So, we still editions with the code. So, we still don't know, but I'm hoping it is the don't know, but I'm hoping it is the don't know, but I'm hoping it is the disc because disc because disc because I'm going to buy it at launch just cuz I I'm going to buy it at launch just cuz I I'm going to buy it at launch just cuz I don't want to wait. I've waited 13 don't want to wait. I've waited 13 don't want to wait. I've waited 13 freaking years. But, um freaking years. But, um freaking years. But, um you know, it's just crazy. you know, it's just crazy. you know, it's just crazy. >> It's very interesting. What's really >> It's very interesting. What's really >> It's very interesting. What's really fascinating is that their stock price fascinating is that their stock price fascinating is that their stock price dropped. So, on the back of rumored $3 dropped. So, on the back of rumored $3 dropped. So, on the back of rumored $3 billion already profitable, billion already profitable, billion already profitable, uh and people are saying that the reason uh and people are saying that the reason uh and people are saying that the reason that the stock price dropped was because that the stock price dropped was because that the stock price dropped was because the they expected the base game to be the they expected the base game to be the they expected the base game to be $100 and they felt like they were $100 and they felt like they were $100 and they felt like they were leaving a ton of revenue leaving a ton of revenue leaving a ton of revenue on the [clears throat] table. on the [clears throat] table. on the [clears throat] table. So, it's very weird to me. You've got a So, it's very weird to me. You've got a So, it's very weird to me. You've got a company doing that well. People are that company doing that well. People are that company doing that well. People are that excited about it. It made that much excited about it. It made that much excited about it. It made that much money already 5 months out. It's so money already 5 months out. It's so money already 5 months out. It's so crazy. But, nonetheless, people crazy. But, nonetheless, people crazy. But, nonetheless, people apparently had already priced in that it apparently had already priced in that it apparently had already priced in that it was going to be a $100 game and when it was going to be a $100 game and when it was going to be a $100 game and when it wasn't they were not happy about it and wasn't they were not happy about it and wasn't they were not happy about it and so the stock dropped. Uh it'll be very so the stock dropped. Uh it'll be very so the stock dropped. Uh it'll be very interesting to watch to see what happens interesting to watch to see what happens interesting to watch to see what happens there. There's so much turmoil in the there. There's so much turmoil in the there. There's so much turmoil in the gaming industry right now because costs gaming industry right now because costs gaming industry right now because costs are absolutely outrageous. If we have are absolutely outrageous. If we have are absolutely outrageous. If we have any fellow Destiny uh players in the any fellow Destiny uh players in the any fellow Destiny uh players in the crowd, uh I played Destiny 1 and Destiny crowd, uh I played Destiny 1 and Destiny crowd, uh I played Destiny 1 and Destiny 2, but uh Bungie just basically lost the 2, but uh Bungie just basically lost the 2, but uh Bungie just basically lost the plot and so they lost all of their plot and so they lost all of their plot and so they lost all of their player base, but now Destiny announced player base, but now Destiny announced player base, but now Destiny announced today that they're doing a bunch of today that they're doing a bunch of today that they're doing a bunch of layoffs and there are people behind the layoffs and there are people behind the layoffs and there are people behind the scenes saying, uh "Hey, listen, I'm a scenes saying, uh "Hey, listen, I'm a scenes saying, uh "Hey, listen, I'm a Sony insider and I'm telling you right Sony insider and I'm telling you right Sony insider and I'm telling you right now that they are going to make Destiny now that they are going to make Destiny now that they are going to make Destiny 3, but they've got to get their cost 3, but they've got to get their cost 3, but they've got to get their cost structure in order and so this is all structure in order and so this is all structure in order and so this is all rumor, all rumor, but supposedly they're rumor, all rumor, but supposedly they're rumor, all rumor, but supposedly they're going to reduce their costs, build an AI going to reduce their costs, build an AI going to reduce their costs, build an AI pipeline, and then start down the road pipeline, and then start down the road pipeline, and then start down the road of doing the game that theoretically of doing the game that theoretically of doing the game that theoretically everybody wants them to do, which is everybody wants them to do, which is everybody wants them to do, which is Destiny 3. So, it'll be very interesting Destiny 3. So, it'll be very interesting Destiny 3. So, it'll be very interesting to see, obviously, what comes of the to see, obviously, what comes of the to see, obviously, what comes of the games industry right now. There are so games industry right now. There are so games industry right now. There are so many people in the industry that are many people in the industry that are many people in the industry that are just violently opposed to AI. It's just violently opposed to AI. It's just violently opposed to AI. It's pretty wild. Uh and yet it is so obvious pretty wild. Uh and yet it is so obvious pretty wild. Uh and yet it is so obvious that AI is the future of gaming. I just that AI is the future of gaming. I just that AI is the future of gaming. I just cannot stress this enough. Somebody was cannot stress this enough. Somebody was cannot stress this enough. Somebody was asking me um cuz I So, I did a post and asking me um cuz I So, I did a post and asking me um cuz I So, I did a post and I said, "I've built uh these mega um I said, "I've built uh these mega um I said, "I've built uh these mega um factories, built them out, and factories, built them out, and factories, built them out, and I've also built a video game. And I've also built a video game. And I've also built a video game. And building the video game was harder than building the video game was harder than building the video game was harder than building out the manufacturing sites." building out the manufacturing sites." building out the manufacturing sites." And so, people are like super weird, And so, people are like super weird, And so, people are like super weird, like, "What the fuck?" And the reality like, "What the fuck?" And the reality like, "What the fuck?" And the reality is um when somebody asked me, "Okay, why is um when somebody asked me, "Okay, why is um when somebody asked me, "Okay, why is it so hard?" is it so hard?" is it so hard?" If I just explained to you just the If I just explained to you just the If I just explained to you just the animation, which is like really animation, which is like really animation, which is like really ultimately a pretty small part of the ultimately a pretty small part of the ultimately a pretty small part of the game, just the animation, you've got uh game, just the animation, you've got uh game, just the animation, you've got uh the concept art, the 3D model of the the concept art, the 3D model of the the concept art, the 3D model of the character, the rigging of the character. character, the rigging of the character. character, the rigging of the character. By the way, those are all three By the way, those are all three By the way, those are all three different people. Um you've got different people. Um you've got different people. Um you've got topology, you've got so the total number topology, you've got so the total number topology, you've got so the total number of polygons, the triangles as people of polygons, the triangles as people of polygons, the triangles as people often say. often say. often say. Um you've got like the human artistry Um you've got like the human artistry Um you've got like the human artistry side of just making it look interesting. side of just making it look interesting. side of just making it look interesting. You've got um whatever tech art you're You've got um whatever tech art you're You've got um whatever tech art you're going to do to actually make this thing going to do to actually make this thing going to do to actually make this thing work on a computer that has limited GPU work on a computer that has limited GPU work on a computer that has limited GPU budgets. You've got timing of the budgets. You've got timing of the budgets. You've got timing of the animation. Can the animation be animation. Can the animation be animation. Can the animation be interrupted? The I mean, interrupted? The I mean, interrupted? The I mean, and many more things. That's just the and many more things. That's just the and many more things. That's just the animation. It is animation. It is animation. It is game development is so technical. It is game development is so technical. It is game development is so technical. It is far more technical than most people far more technical than most people far more technical than most people realize. And so, yes, it is just realize. And so, yes, it is just realize. And so, yes, it is just extremely, extremely difficult. And so, extremely, extremely difficult. And so, extremely, extremely difficult. And so, if AI can come in and simplify some of if AI can come in and simplify some of if AI can come in and simplify some of these things, which it already is, and these things, which it already is, and these things, which it already is, and if it can keep doing that, oh my god, if it can keep doing that, oh my god, if it can keep doing that, oh my god, the industry will be unrecognizable. So, the industry will be unrecognizable. So, the industry will be unrecognizable. So, I'll be very curious to see how quickly I'll be very curious to see how quickly I'll be very curious to see how quickly the gamers who are staunchly opposed to the gamers who are staunchly opposed to the gamers who are staunchly opposed to AI actually end up embracing it. I think AI actually end up embracing it. I think AI actually end up embracing it. I think it's going to be pretty fast. Now, I it's going to be pretty fast. Now, I it's going to be pretty fast. Now, I don't know how many um don't know how many um don't know how many um super chats have built up, but we should super chats have built up, but we should super chats have built up, but we should leave ourselves time cuz I want to make leave ourselves time cuz I want to make leave ourselves time cuz I want to make sure at the hour we can switch over to sure at the hour we can switch over to sure at the hour we can switch over to the the the uh uh uh reacts. reacts. reacts. >> I've got quite a bit. We'll start from >> I've got quite a bit. We'll start from >> I've got quite a bit. We'll start from the top. Quirk says, "What did you think the top. Quirk says, "What did you think the top. Quirk says, "What did you think of Mark Carney saying Canada is a of Mark Carney saying Canada is a of Mark Carney saying Canada is a mosaic, not a melting pot?" mosaic, not a melting pot?" mosaic, not a melting pot?" >> Um >> Um >> Um it's suicidal. That's so stupid. He is it's suicidal. That's so stupid. He is it's suicidal. That's so stupid. He is somebody that prescribes to the idea somebody that prescribes to the idea somebody that prescribes to the idea that that that diversity is our strength, which is diversity is our strength, which is diversity is our strength, which is dumb. dumb. dumb. Diversity is very much not your Diversity is very much not your Diversity is very much not your strength. You have to find a way to strength. You have to find a way to strength. You have to find a way to overcome the diversity in order to move overcome the diversity in order to move overcome the diversity in order to move forward in any sort of coordinated forward in any sort of coordinated forward in any sort of coordinated fashion. I do not know how people get to fashion. I do not know how people get to fashion. I do not know how people get to the level that he's at without a the level that he's at without a the level that he's at without a fundamental understanding of fundamental understanding of fundamental understanding of the mechanisms that make a country work. the mechanisms that make a country work. the mechanisms that make a country work. Like that is ridiculous. It's Like that is ridiculous. It's Like that is ridiculous. It's ridiculous. So, you want a team of ridiculous. So, you want a team of ridiculous. So, you want a team of rivals in the rivals in the rivals in the Lincoln sense Lincoln sense Lincoln sense where there are people who think where there are people who think where there are people who think differently than you, but if you do not differently than you, but if you do not differently than you, but if you do not have shared goals, if you do not have a have shared goals, if you do not have a have shared goals, if you do not have a shared value system, shared value system, shared value system, if you don't have a shared sense of if you don't have a shared sense of if you don't have a shared sense of identity, you're toast. You're toast, identity, you're toast. You're toast, identity, you're toast. You're toast, man. So, yeah, I don't get it. Look at man. So, yeah, I don't get it. Look at man. So, yeah, I don't get it. Look at India and Pakistan. Look at Israel and India and Pakistan. Look at Israel and India and Pakistan. Look at Israel and Palestine. Palestine. Palestine. These are diverse, man. Boy, oh boy. These are diverse, man. Boy, oh boy. These are diverse, man. Boy, oh boy. And they kill each other dead. So, I And they kill each other dead. So, I And they kill each other dead. So, I don't know what the [ __ ] people think don't know what the [ __ ] people think don't know what the [ __ ] people think with stuff like that. It's It's with stuff like that. It's It's with stuff like that. It's It's completely asinine. completely asinine. completely asinine. >> J W Mann says, "Love the show and it >> J W Mann says, "Love the show and it >> J W Mann says, "Love the show and it wouldn't be the same without Drew and wouldn't be the same without Drew and wouldn't be the same without Drew and Ryan as in parentheses mostly winky face Ryan as in parentheses mostly winky face Ryan as in parentheses mostly winky face thoughtful foils. Do you think the thoughtful foils. Do you think the thoughtful foils. Do you think the videos of World Cup fans experience in videos of World Cup fans experience in videos of World Cup fans experience in the US will help some of the DSA folks the US will help some of the DSA folks the US will help some of the DSA folks realize how blessed we are to live in realize how blessed we are to live in realize how blessed we are to live in the US at this time?" the US at this time?" the US at this time?" >> Nope, not even a little bit. Once you >> Nope, not even a little bit. Once you >> Nope, not even a little bit. Once you understand that um understand that um understand that um Marxism, Leninism, socialism, communism, Marxism, Leninism, socialism, communism, Marxism, Leninism, socialism, communism, whatever word you want to use for it, whatever word you want to use for it, whatever word you want to use for it, that is it requires resentment. And so, that is it requires resentment. And so, that is it requires resentment. And so, to push that agenda, no matter what to push that agenda, no matter what to push that agenda, no matter what words come out of their face, it it is a words come out of their face, it it is a words come out of their face, it it is a an ideology born of resentment. It is an ideology born of resentment. It is an ideology born of resentment. It is about confiscation. It is about about confiscation. It is about about confiscation. It is about breaking. It is about tearing down. Um breaking. It is about tearing down. Um breaking. It is about tearing down. Um it they have no love for America. Uh it they have no love for America. Uh it they have no love for America. Uh you're going to see that more and more you're going to see that more and more you're going to see that more and more and more. And and more. And and more. And unfortunately, all the evidence in the unfortunately, all the evidence in the unfortunately, all the evidence in the world presented to an elite who feels world presented to an elite who feels world presented to an elite who feels like they have not been given their just like they have not been given their just like they have not been given their just desserts, they're not going to have it. desserts, they're not going to have it. desserts, they're not going to have it. And they're going to keep moving in that And they're going to keep moving in that And they're going to keep moving in that direction. Um some of them are doing it direction. Um some of them are doing it direction. Um some of them are doing it knowingly, and others of them really are knowingly, and others of them really are knowingly, and others of them really are just lost in the emotion of it all. And just lost in the emotion of it all. And just lost in the emotion of it all. And so they say words make them feel better. so they say words make them feel better. so they say words make them feel better. They say words that make them feel like They say words that make them feel like They say words that make them feel like they're fighting for the small person. they're fighting for the small person. they're fighting for the small person. Uh but in reality, it is confiscatory. Uh but in reality, it is confiscatory. Uh but in reality, it is confiscatory. They always turn on each other. And um They always turn on each other. And um They always turn on each other. And um yeah, you can look at um whatever flavor yeah, you can look at um whatever flavor yeah, you can look at um whatever flavor you want to look at. You can uh see how you want to look at. You can uh see how you want to look at. You can uh see how when um it was run in the Soviet Union, when um it was run in the Soviet Union, when um it was run in the Soviet Union, how all the left-leaning people that how all the left-leaning people that how all the left-leaning people that brought it into power were then just brought it into power were then just brought it into power were then just sum- summarily killed uh because they sum- summarily killed uh because they sum- summarily killed uh because they were no longer useful. They were were no longer useful. They were were no longer useful. They were agitators. [ __ ] those kids. Like, we're agitators. [ __ ] those kids. Like, we're agitators. [ __ ] those kids. Like, we're in power now. We can't have people um in power now. We can't have people um in power now. We can't have people um saying anything against the party. saying anything against the party. saying anything against the party. You're dead. Um you can see the same You're dead. Um you can see the same You're dead. Um you can see the same thing in Iran, by the way. When they the thing in Iran, by the way. When they the thing in Iran, by the way. When they the left ended up helping um left ended up helping um left ended up helping um Khomeini get into power, and then he Khomeini get into power, and then he Khomeini get into power, and then he killed them all. I mean, it's just like killed them all. I mean, it's just like killed them all. I mean, it's just like this just happens over and over and over this just happens over and over and over this just happens over and over and over and over. It is an ideology of and over. It is an ideology of and over. It is an ideology of resentment. It requires total rule. Uh resentment. It requires total rule. Uh resentment. It requires total rule. Uh it is not somebody who's trying to it is not somebody who's trying to it is not somebody who's trying to interface with the world as it actually interface with the world as it actually interface with the world as it actually is. It is somebody who's hungry for is. It is somebody who's hungry for is. It is somebody who's hungry for power. power. power. Uh and once they get it, they will use Uh and once they get it, they will use Uh and once they get it, they will use it. And they will clamp down on it. And they will clamp down on it. And they will clamp down on everything. But because um it is not everything. But because um it is not everything. But because um it is not something that acknowledges uh humans something that acknowledges uh humans something that acknowledges uh humans are selfish. And we need to create space are selfish. And we need to create space are selfish. And we need to create space for them to innovate, for them to for them to innovate, for them to for them to innovate, for them to succeed, for them to reap the rewards of succeed, for them to reap the rewards of succeed, for them to reap the rewards of their success. Um their success. Um their success. Um if you can't do that, you end up doing if you can't do that, you end up doing if you can't do that, you end up doing what the Russians did. This is really what the Russians did. This is really what the Russians did. This is really fun. Uh so, they capture all of that fun. Uh so, they capture all of that fun. Uh so, they capture all of that resentment by saying um to Drew's point resentment by saying um to Drew's point resentment by saying um to Drew's point that this isn't about race. that this isn't about race. that this isn't about race. This is about class. And so you need to This is about class. And so you need to This is about class. And so you need to um really grab your identity as I'm um really grab your identity as I'm um really grab your identity as I'm oppressed. However you manage to find oppressed. However you manage to find oppressed. However you manage to find your way to that, great. And so, in your way to that, great. And so, in your way to that, great. And so, in Russia, Russia, Russia, um it was if that guy has more cows than um it was if that guy has more cows than um it was if that guy has more cows than you, you're being oppressed by him you, you're being oppressed by him you, you're being oppressed by him because that's an unequal outcome. In because that's an unequal outcome. In because that's an unequal outcome. In Cambodia, it was that person has Cambodia, it was that person has Cambodia, it was that person has glasses. They're more educated than you. glasses. They're more educated than you. glasses. They're more educated than you. So, Cambodia, we kill people glasses. So, Cambodia, we kill people glasses. So, Cambodia, we kill people glasses. And in Russia, they literally And in Russia, they literally And in Russia, they literally killed the Kulaks, uh the ones that were killed the Kulaks, uh the ones that were killed the Kulaks, uh the ones that were better at farming, and then they starved better at farming, and then they starved better at farming, and then they starved to death. to death. to death. That was the outcome. But, that's what That was the outcome. But, that's what That was the outcome. But, that's what happens when you have that kind of happens when you have that kind of happens when you have that kind of ideology. So, I wish that some reels on ideology. So, I wish that some reels on ideology. So, I wish that some reels on Tik Tok or Instagram were going to Tik Tok or Instagram were going to Tik Tok or Instagram were going to convince them that no, come on, look how convince them that no, come on, look how convince them that no, come on, look how really wonderful and beautiful this really wonderful and beautiful this really wonderful and beautiful this place is. Um it's way too late for that. place is. Um it's way too late for that. place is. Um it's way too late for that. That's not what that ideology is about. That's not what that ideology is about. That's not what that ideology is about. >> And Boomba with a $100 super chat. Damn. >> And Boomba with a $100 super chat. Damn. >> And Boomba with a $100 super chat. Damn. Thank [cheering] you. >> [applause] >> [applause] >> Hi Tom, the theory of constraints, >> Hi Tom, the theory of constraints, >> Hi Tom, the theory of constraints, logical thinking tools are used for logical thinking tools are used for logical thinking tools are used for building cause-effect logic maps in a building cause-effect logic maps in a building cause-effect logic maps in a way assumptions can be surfaced and way assumptions can be surfaced and way assumptions can be surfaced and challenged. Do it or not, ZTF alumni and challenged. Do it or not, ZTF alumni and challenged. Do it or not, ZTF alumni and founder, community member 18 months. I founder, community member 18 months. I founder, community member 18 months. I appreciate you, your team, and appreciate you, your team, and appreciate you, your team, and community. community. community. >> Wow, thank you, man. Thank you for being >> Wow, thank you, man. Thank you for being >> Wow, thank you, man. Thank you for being a part of it. Uh that means a lot to me. a part of it. Uh that means a lot to me. a part of it. Uh that means a lot to me. You know how fiendish I am about You know how fiendish I am about You know how fiendish I am about creating an entire generation of creating an entire generation of creating an entire generation of founders. Um so, I am always super founders. Um so, I am always super founders. Um so, I am always super honored honored honored uh that people take that program and uh that people take that program and uh that people take that program and give me a chance to help in some small give me a chance to help in some small give me a chance to help in some small way. Ultimately, obviously, you guys do way. Ultimately, obviously, you guys do way. Ultimately, obviously, you guys do all the work, uh but I'm very honored. all the work, uh but I'm very honored. all the work, uh but I'm very honored. So, thank you. So, thank you. So, thank you. >> Uh Justin Pollan says, "Shout out to my >> Uh Justin Pollan says, "Shout out to my >> Uh Justin Pollan says, "Shout out to my daughter Isabella. We are traveling to daughter Isabella. We are traveling to daughter Isabella. We are traveling to San Antonio next week for high school San Antonio next week for high school San Antonio next week for high school FBLA Nationals. She placed first in FBLA Nationals. She placed first in FBLA Nationals. She placed first in Arkansas a few months back. If you could Arkansas a few months back. If you could Arkansas a few months back. If you could wish her luck next week, that would be wish her luck next week, that would be wish her luck next week, that would be amazing. Love you all." amazing. Love you all." amazing. Love you all." >> Oh my god. So, first of all, I think >> Oh my god. So, first of all, I think >> Oh my god. So, first of all, I think this is the first time that somebody has this is the first time that somebody has this is the first time that somebody has used uh the live as a way to send a used uh the live as a way to send a used uh the live as a way to send a message to uh their kid who presumably message to uh their kid who presumably message to uh their kid who presumably is also watching. That's incredible. So, is also watching. That's incredible. So, is also watching. That's incredible. So, yes, best of luck. Uh very excited for yes, best of luck. Uh very excited for yes, best of luck. Uh very excited for you. That's [cheering] incredible. I you. That's [cheering] incredible. I you. That's [cheering] incredible. I hope it goes very, very well. hope it goes very, very well. hope it goes very, very well. Uh and thank you for being a part of the Uh and thank you for being a part of the Uh and thank you for being a part of the crew. crew. crew. >> Next up, Luke Adam Miller says, "Tom >> Next up, Luke Adam Miller says, "Tom >> Next up, Luke Adam Miller says, "Tom usually critiques socialist policies in usually critiques socialist policies in usually critiques socialist policies in terms of incentives to produce and terms of incentives to produce and terms of incentives to produce and innovate. Friedrich Hayek's uh, innovate. Friedrich Hayek's uh, innovate. Friedrich Hayek's uh, Friedrich Hayek's uh, 1945 essay, The Friedrich Hayek's uh, 1945 essay, The Friedrich Hayek's uh, 1945 essay, The Use of Knowledge in Society, explains Use of Knowledge in Society, explains Use of Knowledge in Society, explains markets as necessary systems of markets as necessary systems of markets as necessary systems of epistemic epistemic epistemic epistemic production. Deep dive?" epistemic production. Deep dive?" epistemic production. Deep dive?" >> Um, I that deep dive would fail, but >> Um, I that deep dive would fail, but >> Um, I that deep dive would fail, but that's really interesting to me that's really interesting to me that's really interesting to me personally. Drew knows all too well, personally. Drew knows all too well, personally. Drew knows all too well, like I don't know how you package that like I don't know how you package that like I don't know how you package that one up. Uh, but yeah, that's very, very one up. Uh, but yeah, that's very, very one up. Uh, but yeah, that's very, very interesting. That it is a factory for interesting. That it is a factory for interesting. That it is a factory for truth. truth. truth. That makes sense. I mean, you're making That makes sense. I mean, you're making That makes sense. I mean, you're making ground truth. That is why top-down price ground truth. That is why top-down price ground truth. That is why top-down price controls don't work because you lose the controls don't work because you lose the controls don't work because you lose the truth signal from the market that says truth signal from the market that says truth signal from the market that says this is what this is actually worth. this is what this is actually worth. this is what this is actually worth. Now, what you think it's worth what the Now, what you think it's worth what the Now, what you think it's worth what the market on mass is telling you it's market on mass is telling you it's market on mass is telling you it's actually worth. Um, actually worth. Um, actually worth. Um, yeah, never quite thought of it like yeah, never quite thought of it like yeah, never quite thought of it like that, but that's very interesting. that, but that's very interesting. that, but that's very interesting. >> Bruce Lugo says, "How exactly does >> Bruce Lugo says, "How exactly does >> Bruce Lugo says, "How exactly does deglobalization, things becoming more deglobalization, things becoming more deglobalization, things becoming more expensive, less uh, US companies selling expensive, less uh, US companies selling expensive, less uh, US companies selling product globally, lower profits, lead to product globally, lower profits, lead to product globally, lower profits, lead to higher wages? How wouldn't that just higher wages? How wouldn't that just higher wages? How wouldn't that just lead to destruction of the US economy?" lead to destruction of the US economy?" lead to destruction of the US economy?" >> Okay, so um, one you would never do it >> Okay, so um, one you would never do it >> Okay, so um, one you would never do it like a light switch where uh, we're like a light switch where uh, we're like a light switch where uh, we're doing everything globally and now doing everything globally and now doing everything globally and now everything is internal. You would create everything is internal. You would create everything is internal. You would create the incentive structure that will get the incentive structure that will get the incentive structure that will get people to invest and bring their people to invest and bring their people to invest and bring their companies back here. And so, it will companies back here. And so, it will companies back here. And so, it will start and we can use tariffs just start and we can use tariffs just start and we can use tariffs just because we're doing it and we can sort because we're doing it and we can sort because we're doing it and we can sort of see, but imagine a world in which the of see, but imagine a world in which the of see, but imagine a world in which the Supreme Court doesn't uh, reject it. You Supreme Court doesn't uh, reject it. You Supreme Court doesn't uh, reject it. You saw companies literally saying, like, saw companies literally saying, like, saw companies literally saying, like, "Yeah, we're going to start building a "Yeah, we're going to start building a "Yeah, we're going to start building a factory in the US because we don't want factory in the US because we don't want factory in the US because we don't want to pay those fees." So, you have to pay those fees." So, you have to pay those fees." So, you have well-established car companies for well-established car companies for well-established car companies for instance, instead of manufacturing instance, instead of manufacturing instance, instead of manufacturing somewhere else, like maybe some of this somewhere else, like maybe some of this somewhere else, like maybe some of this is being done in Canada or Mexico or is being done in Canada or Mexico or is being done in Canada or Mexico or whatever, they start bringing it here whatever, they start bringing it here whatever, they start bringing it here uh, into the US. Um, if you look at um, uh, into the US. Um, if you look at um, uh, into the US. Um, if you look at um, the UK, the UK, the UK, you see BYD everywhere. And so, stopping you see BYD everywhere. And so, stopping you see BYD everywhere. And so, stopping people from or China very specifically people from or China very specifically people from or China very specifically from flooding your market with um, um from flooding your market with um, um from flooding your market with um, um government-subsidized things so that government-subsidized things so that government-subsidized things so that they can artificially destroy your they can artificially destroy your they can artificially destroy your market so that you can afford to produce market so that you can afford to produce market so that you can afford to produce it because it's not profitable and so it it because it's not profitable and so it it because it's not profitable and so it all goes there. Um you start hollowing all goes there. Um you start hollowing all goes there. Um you start hollowing out the jobs. So if you reverse that, out the jobs. So if you reverse that, out the jobs. So if you reverse that, you keep those out by making them just you keep those out by making them just you keep those out by making them just too expensive for them to bring in, you too expensive for them to bring in, you too expensive for them to bring in, you incentivize companies that already exist incentivize companies that already exist incentivize companies that already exist to start building here, and then new to start building here, and then new to start building here, and then new companies to be like, "Well, I might as companies to be like, "Well, I might as companies to be like, "Well, I might as well found things here." This is like well found things here." This is like well found things here." This is like exactly what we did when I was looking exactly what we did when I was looking exactly what we did when I was looking for people to help me build Kaizen. I for people to help me build Kaizen. I for people to help me build Kaizen. I didn't care if they were in America. I didn't care if they were in America. I didn't care if they were in America. I just needed it to be as cheap as humanly just needed it to be as cheap as humanly just needed it to be as cheap as humanly possible. And so you want to build an possible. And so you want to build an possible. And so you want to build an incentive structure where it's people incentive structure where it's people incentive structure where it's people just go, "Oh, cool. Yeah, then I'm going just go, "Oh, cool. Yeah, then I'm going just go, "Oh, cool. Yeah, then I'm going to do it here because it's actually to do it here because it's actually to do it here because it's actually cheaper than if I go somewhere else." cheaper than if I go somewhere else." cheaper than if I go somewhere else." Now, if you do it all at once, you could Now, if you do it all at once, you could Now, if you do it all at once, you could definitely create massive problems. But definitely create massive problems. But definitely create massive problems. But what you're triggering is the same what you're triggering is the same what you're triggering is the same innovation cycle that ended up making innovation cycle that ended up making innovation cycle that ended up making China the best, you're just forcing it China the best, you're just forcing it China the best, you're just forcing it to happen on your soil. So it's not an to happen on your soil. So it's not an to happen on your soil. So it's not an overnight fix by any stretch of the overnight fix by any stretch of the overnight fix by any stretch of the imagination, but you have to start imagination, but you have to start imagination, but you have to start walking that journey at some point. Like walking that journey at some point. Like walking that journey at some point. Like if you don't do it now, then you're if you don't do it now, then you're if you don't do it now, then you're going to be, you know, a year from now going to be, you know, a year from now going to be, you know, a year from now wishing that you would started it. So wishing that you would started it. So wishing that you would started it. So whatever that phrase is, what's the best whatever that phrase is, what's the best whatever that phrase is, what's the best time to plant a tree? 40 years ago. time to plant a tree? 40 years ago. time to plant a tree? 40 years ago. What's the second best time? Today. What's the second best time? Today. What's the second best time? Today. Uh so yes, would have been better if we Uh so yes, would have been better if we Uh so yes, would have been better if we had started this or just never let it had started this or just never let it had started this or just never let it happen in the first place, but we didn't happen in the first place, but we didn't happen in the first place, but we didn't and so here we are. So today becomes the and so here we are. So today becomes the and so here we are. So today becomes the second best time to start. second best time to start. second best time to start. >> And last but not least, lol420 says, >> And last but not least, lol420 says, >> And last but not least, lol420 says, "Great discussion as always. Tom, do you "Great discussion as always. Tom, do you "Great discussion as always. Tom, do you practice any martial arts like BJJ? Lots practice any martial arts like BJJ? Lots practice any martial arts like BJJ? Lots of benefits, but I think the biggest is of benefits, but I think the biggest is of benefits, but I think the biggest is you get real feedback in the form of you get real feedback in the form of you get real feedback in the form of someone trying to choke you." someone trying to choke you." someone trying to choke you." >> Yeah, that's really interesting. So um I >> Yeah, that's really interesting. So um I >> Yeah, that's really interesting. So um I did a very long time ago, did a very long time ago, did a very long time ago, um but it was probably too fake of a um but it was probably too fake of a um but it was probably too fake of a martial art for me to have really gotten martial art for me to have really gotten martial art for me to have really gotten too much out of it. Um too much out of it. Um too much out of it. Um and I did it at a time where one, I did and I did it at a time where one, I did and I did it at a time where one, I did not have all of my mental not have all of my mental not have all of my mental um um um aggression, fortitude, etc., etc. in aggression, fortitude, etc., etc. in aggression, fortitude, etc., etc. in place, and so it was competing with me place, and so it was competing with me place, and so it was competing with me doing well in college, and I was really doing well in college, and I was really doing well in college, and I was really trying to get into film school, and it trying to get into film school, and it trying to get into film school, and it just felt like I had to pick one or the just felt like I had to pick one or the just felt like I had to pick one or the other plus I'd gotten injured and so I other plus I'd gotten injured and so I other plus I'd gotten injured and so I was like, "Oh god, getting injured over was like, "Oh god, getting injured over was like, "Oh god, getting injured over here. It's pulling me away from what I here. It's pulling me away from what I here. It's pulling me away from what I really want, which is film school." really want, which is film school." really want, which is film school." Um so, ended up not doing it. Do though Um so, ended up not doing it. Do though Um so, ended up not doing it. Do though wish in my youth uh that I had. Now, wish in my youth uh that I had. Now, wish in my youth uh that I had. Now, listen, I could make it a focus and do listen, I could make it a focus and do listen, I could make it a focus and do it now and I think it'd be it now and I think it'd be it now and I think it'd be extraordinarily extraordinarily extraordinarily beneficial for the reasons you were beneficial for the reasons you were beneficial for the reasons you were saying. Weird thing is I was just saying. Weird thing is I was just saying. Weird thing is I was just thinking about this the other day. thinking about this the other day. thinking about this the other day. Knowing how to fight is like an Knowing how to fight is like an Knowing how to fight is like an insurance policy, but the problem is insurance policy, but the problem is insurance policy, but the problem is it's an insurance policy. I've spent the it's an insurance policy. I've spent the it's an insurance policy. I've spent the vast majority of my adult life not vast majority of my adult life not vast majority of my adult life not having any physical confrontations having any physical confrontations having any physical confrontations whatsoever and so putting time and whatsoever and so putting time and whatsoever and so putting time and energy into my mind uh has felt far more energy into my mind uh has felt far more energy into my mind uh has felt far more useful. And then if I'm honest, uh useful. And then if I'm honest, uh useful. And then if I'm honest, uh it has been a much shorter path to it has been a much shorter path to it has been a much shorter path to getting good with a gun getting good with a gun getting good with a gun uh than putting all that time into BJJ. uh than putting all that time into BJJ. uh than putting all that time into BJJ. But I agree with you, man. It It's one But I agree with you, man. It It's one But I agree with you, man. It It's one of those where um of those where um of those where um I really do wish I really do wish I really do wish that that that I had either done it back in the day or I had either done it back in the day or I had either done it back in the day or that um I wasn't worried about getting that um I wasn't worried about getting that um I wasn't worried about getting injured or just wasn't being lazy cuz injured or just wasn't being lazy cuz injured or just wasn't being lazy cuz ultimately if I made time for it, it ultimately if I made time for it, it ultimately if I made time for it, it could happen and if I was willing to could happen and if I was willing to could happen and if I was willing to deal with the injuries and all that deal with the injuries and all that deal with the injuries and all that stuff, uh I would learn something stuff, uh I would learn something stuff, uh I would learn something incredibly beneficial. And I don't want incredibly beneficial. And I don't want incredibly beneficial. And I don't want to put this person on blast, so I will to put this person on blast, so I will to put this person on blast, so I will just say this. just say this. just say this. Uh a well-known um martial arts a BJJ Uh a well-known um martial arts a BJJ Uh a well-known um martial arts a BJJ coach gave me exactly one session. It coach gave me exactly one session. It coach gave me exactly one session. It was extraordinary. He's such a good guy. was extraordinary. He's such a good guy. was extraordinary. He's such a good guy. Now though, I think he is not a very big Now though, I think he is not a very big Now though, I think he is not a very big Tom Bilyeu fan for reasons Tom Bilyeu fan for reasons Tom Bilyeu fan for reasons uh that are outside the scope of this uh that are outside the scope of this uh that are outside the scope of this conversation, but um conversation, but um conversation, but um that was cool. I did get injured though that was cool. I did get injured though that was cool. I did get injured though in that one session. Uh and so was just in that one session. Uh and so was just in that one session. Uh and so was just like, okay, yeah. I would I would really like, okay, yeah. I would I would really like, okay, yeah. I would I would really have to like figure out how to deal with have to like figure out how to deal with have to like figure out how to deal with the injuries. Too many words on that the injuries. Too many words on that the injuries. Too many words on that answer, so I'll stop there. answer, so I'll stop there. answer, so I'll stop there. >> Um you got Dan G 470. He responded in >> Um you got Dan G 470. He responded in >> Um you got Dan G 470. He responded in the chat. I have it pulled up. Oh, you the chat. I have it pulled up. Oh, you the chat. I have it pulled up. Oh, you have it? Go for it. have it? Go for it. have it? Go for it. >> Drew just pointed out um this is from >> Drew just pointed out um this is from >> Drew just pointed out um this is from our super chat from earlier. Drew just our super chat from earlier. Drew just our super chat from earlier. Drew just pointed out why Trump is holding the pointed out why Trump is holding the pointed out why Trump is holding the housing affordability hostage. He's housing affordability hostage. He's housing affordability hostage. He's betting on the emotional response from betting on the emotional response from betting on the emotional response from constituents that will drive constituents that will drive constituents that will drive representatives to get behind the Save representatives to get behind the Save representatives to get behind the Save America Act. America Act. America Act. >> Hmm. >> Hmm. >> Hmm. That was not my read of Drew's That was not my read of Drew's That was not my read of Drew's uh take on things. My read and obviously uh take on things. My read and obviously uh take on things. My read and obviously you're hearing it's always weird when you're hearing it's always weird when you're hearing it's always weird when I'm answering on your behalf, but I'll I'm answering on your behalf, but I'll I'm answering on your behalf, but I'll I'll finish the I'll finish the I'll finish the >> using that as leverage, yes. That's the >> using that as leverage, yes. That's the >> using that as leverage, yes. That's the difference. difference. difference. >> So, um to me it goes something like >> So, um to me it goes something like >> So, um to me it goes something like this. this. this. Drew recognizes Drew recognizes Drew recognizes the housing problem as not a little the housing problem as not a little the housing problem as not a little bigger, not a little more important, a bigger, not a little more important, a bigger, not a little more important, a lot more important. And so, lot more important. And so, lot more important. And so, holding the far far far far far more holding the far far far far far more holding the far far far far far more important thing hostage for this thing important thing hostage for this thing important thing hostage for this thing that is largely already solved by that is largely already solved by that is largely already solved by something else. It's like, what the [ __ ] something else. It's like, what the [ __ ] something else. It's like, what the [ __ ] are we doing? This is political are we doing? This is political are we doing? This is political buffoonery. Given how easy it is to buffoonery. Given how easy it is to buffoonery. Given how easy it is to track his logic, if you share his base track his logic, if you share his base track his logic, if you share his base assumptions, it actually makes a lot of assumptions, it actually makes a lot of assumptions, it actually makes a lot of sense. So, it's only when you disagree sense. So, it's only when you disagree sense. So, it's only when you disagree with his base assumptions that it's with his base assumptions that it's with his base assumptions that it's like, well, I think there's something to like, well, I think there's something to like, well, I think there's something to argue about here. So, that's where I go. argue about here. So, that's where I go. argue about here. So, that's where I go. If somebody like, okay, for instance, If somebody like, okay, for instance, If somebody like, okay, for instance, Gary's economics. The number of people Gary's economics. The number of people Gary's economics. The number of people that come to Gary's aid, I will just that come to Gary's aid, I will just that come to Gary's aid, I will just never understand. Uh if you have a video never understand. Uh if you have a video never understand. Uh if you have a video that you want to link me to where he that you want to link me to where he that you want to link me to where he actually walks through the logic, I'd actually walks through the logic, I'd actually walks through the logic, I'd love to see it. But what Gary does is in love to see it. But what Gary does is in love to see it. But what Gary does is in in the majority of his content. Maybe in the majority of his content. Maybe in the majority of his content. Maybe there really is good stuff and I just there really is good stuff and I just there really is good stuff and I just haven't seen it. I'm super open to that. haven't seen it. I'm super open to that. haven't seen it. I'm super open to that. But in all the stuff that I see, Gary But in all the stuff that I see, Gary But in all the stuff that I see, Gary terminates in terminates in terminates in cuz he'll give you a couple beats, but cuz he'll give you a couple beats, but cuz he'll give you a couple beats, but when you point out, hey, that logic when you point out, hey, that logic when you point out, hey, that logic doesn't make sense and it you break doesn't make sense and it you break doesn't make sense and it you break cause and effect for this reason, which cause and effect for this reason, which cause and effect for this reason, which Daniel Priestley did extraordinarily Daniel Priestley did extraordinarily Daniel Priestley did extraordinarily well when the two of them went well when the two of them went well when the two of them went head-to-head on Diary of a CEO. This is head-to-head on Diary of a CEO. This is head-to-head on Diary of a CEO. This is not me guessing. This is me having not me guessing. This is me having not me guessing. This is me having watched it play out. And Gary would just watched it play out. And Gary would just watched it play out. And Gary would just hit the eject button every time uh hit the eject button every time uh hit the eject button every time uh Daniel was like, but it doesn't work Daniel was like, but it doesn't work Daniel was like, but it doesn't work like that. And Gary would go, fine. like that. And Gary would go, fine. like that. And Gary would go, fine. Yeah, man. Sure, sure, sure, bro. Just Yeah, man. Sure, sure, sure, bro. Just Yeah, man. Sure, sure, sure, bro. Just uh keep doing that and see what happens. uh keep doing that and see what happens. uh keep doing that and see what happens. And it's like, that is emotion. That's And it's like, that is emotion. That's And it's like, that is emotion. That's not a sequence of logic. So, what I want not a sequence of logic. So, what I want not a sequence of logic. So, what I want to hear from Gary is, hey, he just to hear from Gary is, hey, he just to hear from Gary is, hey, he just brought up a point. So, what's your brought up a point. So, what's your brought up a point. So, what's your takedown of that point? So, for takedown of that point? So, for takedown of that point? So, for instance, I couldn't refind it, but um instance, I couldn't refind it, but um instance, I couldn't refind it, but um somebody in so we did a reacts video, somebody in so we did a reacts video, somebody in so we did a reacts video, which is great because it ends up which is great because it ends up which is great because it ends up attracting people that aren't already in attracting people that aren't already in attracting people that aren't already in our audience, but that means that they our audience, but that means that they our audience, but that means that they hate [snorts] everything that I'm hate [snorts] everything that I'm hate [snorts] everything that I'm saying, which means that when I have saying, which means that when I have saying, which means that when I have time I can go in and like find out, do I time I can go in and like find out, do I time I can go in and like find out, do I actually have a rebuttal for this actually have a rebuttal for this actually have a rebuttal for this argument? Some I'm going to, some I argument? Some I'm going to, some I argument? Some I'm going to, some I won't, which gives me a great jumping won't, which gives me a great jumping won't, which gives me a great jumping off point to go, oh, am I wrong about off point to go, oh, am I wrong about off point to go, oh, am I wrong about that? Let me go look it up. Anyway, one that? Let me go look it up. Anyway, one that? Let me go look it up. Anyway, one of them was about they said, uh, "Tommy, of them was about they said, uh, "Tommy, of them was about they said, uh, "Tommy, you're never going to address why things you're never going to address why things you're never going to address why things were better in the '50s and '60s." were better in the '50s and '60s." were better in the '50s and '60s." Uh, which he was using as like a gotcha. Uh, which he was using as like a gotcha. Uh, which he was using as like a gotcha. Um, so you're not addressing the real Um, so you're not addressing the real Um, so you're not addressing the real problem. You guys know my arguments. problem. You guys know my arguments. problem. You guys know my arguments. Tommy, you're not addressing the real Tommy, you're not addressing the real Tommy, you're not addressing the real problem. I know because the top tax rate problem. I know because the top tax rate problem. I know because the top tax rate in the '50s and '60s was 91% and so in the '50s and '60s was 91% and so in the '50s and '60s was 91% and so haha. haha. haha. Uh, you won't address it because you Uh, you won't address it because you Uh, you won't address it because you can't. Now, here's the problem. It's can't. Now, here's the problem. It's can't. Now, here's the problem. It's very easy to address and I'll address it very easy to address and I'll address it very easy to address and I'll address it now, but I want to nest it in now, but I want to nest it in now, but I want to nest it in This is the what I'm about to do is This is the what I'm about to do is This is the what I'm about to do is exactly what I want to see Gary do and I exactly what I want to see Gary do and I exactly what I want to see Gary do and I don't see Gary do, which is, okay, cool. don't see Gary do, which is, okay, cool. don't see Gary do, which is, okay, cool. You've pointed something out. There was You've pointed something out. There was You've pointed something out. There was a top tax rate in the '50s and '60s when a top tax rate in the '50s and '60s when a top tax rate in the '50s and '60s when the economy really was booming and so the economy really was booming and so the economy really was booming and so now the question becomes was that now the question becomes was that now the question becomes was that causative? Was the economy booming causative? Was the economy booming causative? Was the economy booming because we had a 91% top tax rate? because we had a 91% top tax rate? because we had a 91% top tax rate? And, uh, that can be verified. And so And, uh, that can be verified. And so And, uh, that can be verified. And so you just go back and look and the you just go back and look and the you just go back and look and the reality is top tax rate was 91. Uh, reality is top tax rate was 91. Uh, reality is top tax rate was 91. Uh, however, we were taking in much, much, however, we were taking in much, much, however, we were taking in much, much, much, much less tax per person than we much, much less tax per person than we much, much less tax per person than we take in now. Now, that's largely a take in now. Now, that's largely a take in now. Now, that's largely a function of the economy growing and not function of the economy growing and not function of the economy growing and not necessarily because you have a 91% tax necessarily because you have a 91% tax necessarily because you have a 91% tax rate, but the question becomes as you rate, but the question becomes as you rate, but the question becomes as you abandon that tax rate, does that free abandon that tax rate, does that free abandon that tax rate, does that free the market up to grow? The obvious the market up to grow? The obvious the market up to grow? The obvious answer is yes because we did and the answer is yes because we did and the answer is yes because we did and the economy these decades later is just economy these decades later is just economy these decades later is just boom, boom, booming. Now, what was going boom, boom, booming. Now, what was going boom, boom, booming. Now, what was going on in the '50s and '60s that was on in the '50s and '60s that was on in the '50s and '60s that was extraordinarily powerful? One, we were extraordinarily powerful? One, we were extraordinarily powerful? One, we were inflating our debt away, right? inflating our debt away, right? inflating our debt away, right? Something you would think I would just Something you would think I would just Something you would think I would just be radically opposed to, but it's part be radically opposed to, but it's part be radically opposed to, but it's part of a beautiful deleveraging and when you of a beautiful deleveraging and when you of a beautiful deleveraging and when you do it well, it works just fine. So, they do it well, it works just fine. So, they do it well, it works just fine. So, they used yield curve control, known as used yield curve control, known as used yield curve control, known as financial repression, and they financial repression, and they financial repression, and they actually inflated their way out from actually inflated their way out from actually inflated their way out from that whatever 125% that whatever 125% that whatever 125% debt to GDP ratio. Now, the reason they debt to GDP ratio. Now, the reason they debt to GDP ratio. Now, the reason they could do it now, and the reason we could do it now, and the reason we could do it now, and the reason we wouldn't be able to do it today, is that wouldn't be able to do it today, is that wouldn't be able to do it today, is that the economy was naturally growing. We the economy was naturally growing. We the economy was naturally growing. We were just coming out of World War II. We were just coming out of World War II. We were just coming out of World War II. We were the only ones that were untouched. were the only ones that were untouched. were the only ones that were untouched. The whole world was turning to us to be The whole world was turning to us to be The whole world was turning to us to be this manufacturing marvel. We were sort this manufacturing marvel. We were sort this manufacturing marvel. We were sort of the China of that day. So, you're of the China of that day. So, you're of the China of that day. So, you're financially repressing people, you're financially repressing people, you're financially repressing people, you're inflating the [ __ ] out of them, but the inflating the [ __ ] out of them, but the inflating the [ __ ] out of them, but the economy is actually growing more than economy is actually growing more than economy is actually growing more than you're stealing in the inflation. So, in you're stealing in the inflation. So, in you're stealing in the inflation. So, in real terms, the average workers' wages real terms, the average workers' wages real terms, the average workers' wages are going up. So, this is not a because are going up. So, this is not a because are going up. So, this is not a because you're taxing at 91% that wasn't the you're taxing at 91% that wasn't the you're taxing at 91% that wasn't the causative reason for the economy to be causative reason for the economy to be causative reason for the economy to be booming. So, there were other things booming. So, there were other things booming. So, there were other things were happening, and one the one that I were happening, and one the one that I were happening, and one the one that I just want to see people really pay just want to see people really pay just want to see people really pay attention to is the worker was more attention to is the worker was more attention to is the worker was more empowered. They could negotiate better. empowered. They could negotiate better. empowered. They could negotiate better. They could get better pay. And so, we They could get better pay. And so, we They could get better pay. And so, we want to look at that. Now, everybody want to look at that. Now, everybody want to look at that. Now, everybody dead ends at the brain dead just get dead ends at the brain dead just get dead ends at the brain dead just get unions back in. Unions are like a unions back in. Unions are like a unions back in. Unions are like a government, they'll turn cancerous very government, they'll turn cancerous very government, they'll turn cancerous very quickly. It also doesn't have a very big quickly. It also doesn't have a very big quickly. It also doesn't have a very big impact. So, for my money, that's not the impact. So, for my money, that's not the impact. So, for my money, that's not the place to start, but at least that's an place to start, but at least that's an place to start, but at least that's an argument that's like, "Okay, we've got argument that's like, "Okay, we've got argument that's like, "Okay, we've got to make the worker more empowered so to make the worker more empowered so to make the worker more empowered so that they can capture more of that that they can capture more of that that they can capture more of that increase in productivity." Which is like increase in productivity." Which is like increase in productivity." Which is like the other part of the problem that we the other part of the problem that we the other part of the problem that we have to solve for. Okay, so that's the have to solve for. Okay, so that's the have to solve for. Okay, so that's the kind of thing that I want to see Gary kind of thing that I want to see Gary kind of thing that I want to see Gary do. Now, then the next layer might be do. Now, then the next layer might be do. Now, then the next layer might be Gary goes, "Okay, well, wait a second. I Gary goes, "Okay, well, wait a second. I Gary goes, "Okay, well, wait a second. I don't think that you're clocking the don't think that you're clocking the don't think that you're clocking the data right on the unions." And I do data right on the unions." And I do data right on the unions." And I do think it's unions. Okay, Gary, cool. think it's unions. Okay, Gary, cool. think it's unions. Okay, Gary, cool. Let's go through it. There's two camps. Let's go through it. There's two camps. Let's go through it. There's two camps. Camp number one says it has had a bigger Camp number one says it has had a bigger Camp number one says it has had a bigger impact. Camp number two says it it comes impact. Camp number two says it it comes impact. Camp number two says it it comes out to about 1 or 2%. Now, you can out to about 1 or 2%. Now, you can out to about 1 or 2%. Now, you can debate it. You're in the weeds. It's debate it. You're in the weeds. It's debate it. You're in the weeds. It's probably not going to be super useful, probably not going to be super useful, probably not going to be super useful, but like at least we know what we but like at least we know what we but like at least we know what we disagree on. And now we're back to, disagree on. And now we're back to, disagree on. And now we're back to, "Hey, we agree about the philosophy of "Hey, we agree about the philosophy of "Hey, we agree about the philosophy of we have to empower the worker. We just we have to empower the worker. We just we have to empower the worker. We just disagree about how to get there." You're disagree about how to get there." You're disagree about how to get there." You're you're going to end in places like that you're going to end in places like that you're going to end in places like that where people are reading the data in where people are reading the data in where people are reading the data in different ways, they have different base different ways, they have different base different ways, they have different base assumptions, yada yada. That's perfectly assumptions, yada yada. That's perfectly assumptions, yada yada. That's perfectly fine. That's super fruitful. Here's the fine. That's super fruitful. Here's the fine. That's super fruitful. Here's the base assumption, you believe this. base assumption, you believe this. base assumption, you believe this. Here's my base assumption, I believe Here's my base assumption, I believe Here's my base assumption, I believe that. Now the audience gets to make up that. Now the audience gets to make up that. Now the audience gets to make up their own mind. But when somebody taps their own mind. But when somebody taps their own mind. But when somebody taps out and they start appealing to uh it's out and they start appealing to uh it's out and they start appealing to uh it's no longer about cause and effect and no longer about cause and effect and no longer about cause and effect and it's just an emotional appeal, which it's just an emotional appeal, which it's just an emotional appeal, which again, I will ask you guys all to be again, I will ask you guys all to be again, I will ask you guys all to be clear in your mind, someone can clear in your mind, someone can clear in your mind, someone can emotionally present cause and effect, emotionally present cause and effect, emotionally present cause and effect, that's not the same thing as reasoning that's not the same thing as reasoning that's not the same thing as reasoning from emotion. Okay, what I'm saying is from emotion. Okay, what I'm saying is from emotion. Okay, what I'm saying is Gary reasons from emotion. This thing is Gary reasons from emotion. This thing is Gary reasons from emotion. This thing is the right thing to do because it feels the right thing to do because it feels the right thing to do because it feels right. It seems self-evident. This is right. It seems self-evident. This is right. It seems self-evident. This is what people want. I don't give a [ __ ] if what people want. I don't give a [ __ ] if what people want. I don't give a [ __ ] if it's what they want. What works? I know it's what they want. What works? I know it's what they want. What works? I know where they're trying to get to. Is it where they're trying to get to. Is it where they're trying to get to. Is it actually going to take them there? Is it actually going to take them there? Is it actually going to take them there? Is it actually going to make their life actually going to make their life actually going to make their life economically better? Will they feel, not economically better? Will they feel, not economically better? Will they feel, not feel, sorry, will they actually be able feel, sorry, will they actually be able feel, sorry, will they actually be able to afford a home? Will they be making to afford a home? Will they be making to afford a home? Will they be making more money in a year than they are now? more money in a year than they are now? more money in a year than they are now? Will their kids likely make more money Will their kids likely make more money Will their kids likely make more money than them, you know, 20 years from now? than them, you know, 20 years from now? than them, you know, 20 years from now? Those are the things that are real, Those are the things that are real, Those are the things that are real, tangible, and measurable. tangible, and measurable. tangible, and measurable. And I'm saying he routinely ejects out And I'm saying he routinely ejects out And I'm saying he routinely ejects out of that. And that's where, man, we're of that. And that's where, man, we're of that. And that's where, man, we're going to talk about uh Chevalier and the going to talk about uh Chevalier and the going to talk about uh Chevalier and the DSA uh in minutes. So, that's where I'm DSA uh in minutes. So, that's where I'm DSA uh in minutes. So, that's where I'm like, they just [ __ ] tap out. They like, they just [ __ ] tap out. They like, they just [ __ ] tap out. They just say words that are emotional, just say words that are emotional, just say words that are emotional, meaning meaning meaning uh it's about hope. We want to do cool uh it's about hope. We want to do cool uh it's about hope. We want to do cool things. We've got to protect the things. We've got to protect the things. We've got to protect the integrity of people. What the [ __ ] What integrity of people. What the [ __ ] What integrity of people. What the [ __ ] What does that mean? What are you going to do does that mean? What are you going to do does that mean? What are you going to do as a matter of policy? We're going to as a matter of policy? We're going to as a matter of policy? We're going to freeze rents. Okay, cool. Now you've freeze rents. Okay, cool. Now you've freeze rents. Okay, cool. Now you've given me something where I can walk given me something where I can walk given me something where I can walk through cause and effect. I can do a through cause and effect. I can do a through cause and effect. I can do a historical analysis and say, "Hey, has historical analysis and say, "Hey, has historical analysis and say, "Hey, has anybody tried this kind of thing in the anybody tried this kind of thing in the anybody tried this kind of thing in the past and does it work?" All right. I past and does it work?" All right. I past and does it work?" All right. I should probably stop there. should probably stop there. should probably stop there. >> I got one more super chat. Um Drew, on >> I got one more super chat. Um Drew, on >> I got one more super chat. Um Drew, on your end does it show a message because your end does it show a message because your end does it show a message because someone replied like there was, but on someone replied like there was, but on someone replied like there was, but on my end it just says the amount. my end it just says the amount. my end it just says the amount. >> Yeah, yeah. Uh same. This is Caleb T357. >> Yeah, yeah. Uh same. This is Caleb T357. >> Yeah, yeah. Uh same. This is Caleb T357. Thank you for the $100 super chat on a Thank you for the $100 super chat on a Thank you for the $100 super chat on a Friday. Uh Friday. Uh Friday. Uh >> [applause] >> [applause] >> [applause] >> Any advice on how to help a young >> Any advice on how to help a young >> Any advice on how to help a young teenage daughter navigate the world teenage daughter navigate the world teenage daughter navigate the world effectively? Drew, I'm looking at you. effectively? Drew, I'm looking at you. effectively? Drew, I'm looking at you. Tom, please weigh in as well. I respect Tom, please weigh in as well. I respect Tom, please weigh in as well. I respect and appreciate everything you all do. and appreciate everything you all do. and appreciate everything you all do. >> Let's go, Drew. You've got one. >> Let's go, Drew. You've got one. >> Let's go, Drew. You've got one. >> Uh the best parenting advice I had was >> Uh the best parenting advice I had was >> Uh the best parenting advice I had was that you're not supposed to that you're not supposed to that you're not supposed to you're not supposed to tell your you're not supposed to tell your you're not supposed to tell your daughter or your your child how to walk. daughter or your your child how to walk. daughter or your your child how to walk. You're supposed to walk with them along You're supposed to walk with them along You're supposed to walk with them along the path and you're supposed to guide the path and you're supposed to guide the path and you're supposed to guide them and give them principles that way them and give them principles that way them and give them principles that way they make their best decisions going they make their best decisions going they make their best decisions going forward. So, forward. So, forward. So, I know when teenage, it the I know when teenage, it the I know when teenage, it the switch flips and it gets a lot worse and switch flips and it gets a lot worse and switch flips and it gets a lot worse and it's a lot more um intense in the way of it's a lot more um intense in the way of it's a lot more um intense in the way of the pushback and the self um the pushback and the self um the pushback and the self um the independent philosophy and the the independent philosophy and the the independent philosophy and the argumentative and stuff like that, argumentative and stuff like that, argumentative and stuff like that, especially with young uh women. Um but especially with young uh women. Um but especially with young uh women. Um but it's still grounded in when she was it's still grounded in when she was it's still grounded in when she was eight, she was in um eight, she was in um eight, she was in um martial arts for 2 years, so that's how martial arts for 2 years, so that's how martial arts for 2 years, so that's how she learned respect and discipline. So, she learned respect and discipline. So, she learned respect and discipline. So, the things that we did as she was the things that we did as she was the things that we did as she was growing up reinforced things. So, now growing up reinforced things. So, now growing up reinforced things. So, now when she's going through her uh when she's going through her uh when she's going through her uh independent um independent um independent um spurts, we can kind of use those spurts, we can kind of use those spurts, we can kind of use those historical examples to kind of calm her historical examples to kind of calm her historical examples to kind of calm her down and walk her against the edge. Um I down and walk her against the edge. Um I down and walk her against the edge. Um I I will say though, I will say though, I will say though, my daughter specifically, she has my daughter specifically, she has my daughter specifically, she has told me off, not like cursed me out or told me off, not like cursed me out or told me off, not like cursed me out or something like that, but she has something like that, but she has something like that, but she has forcefully voiced her concerns about forcefully voiced her concerns about forcefully voiced her concerns about something that I have I did. something that I have I did. something that I have I did. Um she's made jokes about me that made Um she's made jokes about me that made Um she's made jokes about me that made me like open my mouth and the group me like open my mouth and the group me like open my mouth and the group laugh and the table like riot. Um and laugh and the table like riot. Um and laugh and the table like riot. Um and she has over performed in everything she has over performed in everything she has over performed in everything that she puts her mind to. So, it's one that she puts her mind to. So, it's one that she puts her mind to. So, it's one of those things where you can't get mad of those things where you can't get mad of those things where you can't get mad when she's overly expressive, when she when she's overly expressive, when she when she's overly expressive, when she has an attitude, and then not be has an attitude, and then not be has an attitude, and then not be uh happy that she's also making an uh happy that she's also making an uh happy that she's also making an off-color joke that nobody prompted her off-color joke that nobody prompted her off-color joke that nobody prompted her to. So, I allow her to have that space to. So, I allow her to have that space to. So, I allow her to have that space and that playground to play, but at the and that playground to play, but at the and that playground to play, but at the edges of those fences are those edges of those fences are those edges of those fences are those principles and those morals that we principles and those morals that we principles and those morals that we built earlier in her life. So, yes, built earlier in her life. So, yes, built earlier in her life. So, yes, she's going to go to the edge of that she's going to go to the edge of that she's going to go to the edge of that gate, and yes, she's going to say gate, and yes, she's going to say gate, and yes, she's going to say something or do something that you might something or do something that you might something or do something that you might be the butt of the joke, or she might be the butt of the joke, or she might be the butt of the joke, or she might lash out at you, and then you start to lash out at you, and then you start to lash out at you, and then you start to go a couple levels deeper and you go a couple levels deeper and you go a couple levels deeper and you realize, "Oh, it's not that she's mad at realize, "Oh, it's not that she's mad at realize, "Oh, it's not that she's mad at she What she's saying isn't the thing. she What she's saying isn't the thing. she What she's saying isn't the thing. You have to look at the subcontext." And You have to look at the subcontext." And You have to look at the subcontext." And this is something that I think is this is something that I think is this is something that I think is applicable to a lot of women applicable to a lot of women applicable to a lot of women just in life is the lash out often times just in life is the lash out often times just in life is the lash out often times is a sub-context under that of like, is a sub-context under that of like, is a sub-context under that of like, "Oh, what I'm really saying is I don't "Oh, what I'm really saying is I don't "Oh, what I'm really saying is I don't feel safe." Or, "Oh, what I'm really feel safe." Or, "Oh, what I'm really feel safe." Or, "Oh, what I'm really saying is I miss you." Or, "Oh, what I'm saying is I miss you." Or, "Oh, what I'm saying is I miss you." Or, "Oh, what I'm really saying is you weren't there for really saying is you weren't there for really saying is you weren't there for me and I needed you to support me in me and I needed you to support me in me and I needed you to support me in that thing." So, don't think about the that thing." So, don't think about the that thing." So, don't think about the words that are coming out of her mouth. words that are coming out of her mouth. words that are coming out of her mouth. What's the context that comes under it? What's the context that comes under it? What's the context that comes under it? >> Can I jump in from a recent teen >> Can I jump in from a recent teen >> Can I jump in from a recent teen perspective? perspective? perspective? >> There it is. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> Uh so, you said something 4 weeks ago >> Uh so, you said something 4 weeks ago >> Uh so, you said something 4 weeks ago that stuck with me that my parents also that stuck with me that my parents also that stuck with me that my parents also did, which um I don't know your exact did, which um I don't know your exact did, which um I don't know your exact phrasing, so correct me if I'm wrong, phrasing, so correct me if I'm wrong, phrasing, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it was hear them out even if you but it was hear them out even if you but it was hear them out even if you disagree and validate that these are the disagree and validate that these are the disagree and validate that these are the things they're feeling. And I think too things they're feeling. And I think too things they're feeling. And I think too many parents don't do that. And like you many parents don't do that. And like you many parents don't do that. And like you said you do that, my parents do that to said you do that, my parents do that to said you do that, my parents do that to me. It's like that is so helpful as a me. It's like that is so helpful as a me. It's like that is so helpful as a teenager for developing your worldview teenager for developing your worldview teenager for developing your worldview is because you're not going to always is because you're not going to always is because you're not going to always agree with your parents just like you agree with your parents just like you agree with your parents just like you said now. Um so, I don't know. I just I said now. Um so, I don't know. I just I said now. Um so, I don't know. I just I like when you said like when you said like when you said >> about that like to other people cuz when >> about that like to other people cuz when >> about that like to other people cuz when me and Lynn get into it, I immediately I me and Lynn get into it, I immediately I me and Lynn get into it, I immediately I have a bunch of female friends. I really have a bunch of female friends. I really have a bunch of female friends. I really call them like, "Am I tripping right call them like, "Am I tripping right call them like, "Am I tripping right now?" Like I don't I don't I want to now?" Like I don't I don't I want to now?" Like I don't I don't I want to just make sure I didn't And it just make sure I didn't And it just make sure I didn't And it every time they have the conversations, every time they have the conversations, every time they have the conversations, they're like, "Oh, the argument is they're like, "Oh, the argument is they're like, "Oh, the argument is good." Like the fact that she's bringing good." Like the fact that she's bringing good." Like the fact that she's bringing her feelings to you, you're talking her feelings to you, you're talking her feelings to you, you're talking through things, you're working through through things, you're working through through things, you're working through it. You want that. You don't want her to it. You want that. You don't want her to it. You want that. You don't want her to just be quiet and ice you out. That's a just be quiet and ice you out. That's a just be quiet and ice you out. That's a way worse position. Your relationship is way worse position. Your relationship is way worse position. Your relationship is strained. At least now she's actively strained. At least now she's actively strained. At least now she's actively trying asking for more because she trying asking for more because she trying asking for more because she there's something there's a deficit there's something there's a deficit there's something there's a deficit there. So, that's where I started to there. So, that's where I started to there. So, that's where I started to kind of change the perspective on it to kind of change the perspective on it to kind of change the perspective on it to Ryan's point of like Ryan's point of like Ryan's point of like you feel how you feel. I hear you. Thank you feel how you feel. I hear you. Thank you feel how you feel. I hear you. Thank you for bringing your emotions. Thank you for bringing your emotions. Thank you for bringing your emotions. Thank you for being vulnerable with me. I you for being vulnerable with me. I you for being vulnerable with me. I don't see it that way, but thank you for don't see it that way, but thank you for don't see it that way, but thank you for saying it. You hungry? And then we I try saying it. You hungry? And then we I try saying it. You hungry? And then we I try to like lead it into something else. to like lead it into something else. to like lead it into something else. >> And that's exactly how my parents were >> And that's exactly how my parents were >> And that's exactly how my parents were as a teen. [laughter] So, as a teen. [laughter] So, as a teen. [laughter] So, >> For real, thank you for your service, >> For real, thank you for your service, >> For real, thank you for your service, man. man. man. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh that that is banger advice. The only >> Uh that that is banger advice. The only >> Uh that that is banger advice. The only thing that I would add to that is get thing that I would add to that is get thing that I would add to that is get your child addicted to the only belief your child addicted to the only belief your child addicted to the only belief that matters, which is that if they put that matters, which is that if they put that matters, which is that if they put time and energy into getting better, time and energy into getting better, time and energy into getting better, they will get better. AKA give them a they will get better. AKA give them a they will get better. AKA give them a growth mindset. Everything after that, growth mindset. Everything after that, growth mindset. Everything after that, you're not going to be able to walk with you're not going to be able to walk with you're not going to be able to walk with them forever. Um and they are going to them forever. Um and they are going to them forever. Um and they are going to meet the real world and they are going meet the real world and they are going meet the real world and they are going to have to figure out how to navigate to have to figure out how to navigate to have to figure out how to navigate it, and the real world is going to break it, and the real world is going to break it, and the real world is going to break them. It's going to scar them in some them. It's going to scar them in some them. It's going to scar them in some way, and if they don't have the way, and if they don't have the way, and if they don't have the emotional resilience to get back up and emotional resilience to get back up and emotional resilience to get back up and keep going, then all hope will be lost. keep going, then all hope will be lost. keep going, then all hope will be lost. Um, so that would be Um, so that would be Um, so that would be if if I were going to try to impart if if I were going to try to impart if if I were going to try to impart wisdom onto a kid, it would be that. wisdom onto a kid, it would be that. wisdom onto a kid, it would be that. That's literally what I'm trying to get That's literally what I'm trying to get That's literally what I'm trying to get across, whether it's in a video game or across, whether it's in a video game or across, whether it's in a video game or a story, when I'm thinking about kids a story, when I'm thinking about kids a story, when I'm thinking about kids that I'm right there with that. that I'm right there with that. that I'm right there with that. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> That's it. You guys, thank you so much >> That's it. You guys, thank you so much >> That's it. 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