Trump Isn't Confused, He's Doing This on Purpose | Andrew Bustamante

Iran being a threat to the Middle East Iran being a threat to the Middle East is a good thing for the United States. is a good thing for the United States. is a good thing for the United States. What? So economically, you want a little What? So economically, you want a little What? So economically, you want a little bit of uncertainty in the Middle East bit of uncertainty in the Middle East bit of uncertainty in the Middle East because it drives the American because it drives the American because it drives the American military-industrial engine because we military-industrial engine because we military-industrial engine because we keep providing weapons to Israel and keep providing weapons to Israel and keep providing weapons to Israel and Saudi and UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and Saudi and UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and Saudi and UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and all the other major parties out there all the other major parties out there all the other major parties out there that have a problem with their own. Even that have a problem with their own. Even that have a problem with their own. Even the Trump administration is having a the Trump administration is having a the Trump administration is having a hard time hard time hard time helping us understand why we're doing helping us understand why we're doing helping us understand why we're doing it. Instead, they seem to keep target it. Instead, they seem to keep target it. Instead, they seem to keep target hopping and the current target now is hopping and the current target now is hopping and the current target now is Cuba. How do you begin to predict what Cuba. How do you begin to predict what Cuba. How do you begin to predict what the future's going to look like? Trump just said that Iran was totally Trump just said that Iran was totally destroyed. That is a quote. And then destroyed. That is a quote. And then destroyed. That is a quote. And then they shot down an Apache helicopter. they shot down an Apache helicopter. they shot down an Apache helicopter. >> Isn't that amazing? Just think about >> Isn't that amazing? Just think about >> Isn't that amazing? Just think about that for a second. that for a second. that for a second. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Obliterated military, but it still has >> Obliterated military, but it still has >> Obliterated military, but it still has the ability to shoot down a modern-day the ability to shoot down a modern-day the ability to shoot down a modern-day Apache. Apache. Apache. >> Yeah. I feel like maybe I'm being lied >> Yeah. I feel like maybe I'm being lied >> Yeah. I feel like maybe I'm being lied to about how far we've gone. So, we just to about how far we've gone. So, we just to about how far we've gone. So, we just get attacked. We're in the middle of get attacked. We're in the middle of get attacked. We're in the middle of peace talks. There's a smart response peace talks. There's a smart response peace talks. There's a smart response that Trump could take and there's a dumb that Trump could take and there's a dumb that Trump could take and there's a dumb response that Trump could take. What are response that Trump could take. What are response that Trump could take. What are each? each? each? >> So, there's so much here that we're not >> So, there's so much here that we're not >> So, there's so much here that we're not allowed to know and frankly that people allowed to know and frankly that people allowed to know and frankly that people just don't know, right? The Apache just don't know, right? The Apache just don't know, right? The Apache helicopter was on a uh a watch type of helicopter was on a uh a watch type of helicopter was on a uh a watch type of routine uh mission. It was shot down. It routine uh mission. It was shot down. It routine uh mission. It was shot down. It was shot down in a way where both pilots was shot down in a way where both pilots was shot down in a way where both pilots survived. It's kind of difficult to survived. It's kind of difficult to survived. It's kind of difficult to imagine a rocket hitting a helicopter, imagine a rocket hitting a helicopter, imagine a rocket hitting a helicopter, right? The speed difference between a right? The speed difference between a right? The speed difference between a rocket and a helicopter is significant. rocket and a helicopter is significant. rocket and a helicopter is significant. And then the helicopter being able to And then the helicopter being able to And then the helicopter being able to not only identify that the missile was not only identify that the missile was not only identify that the missile was coming, but also successfully eject. coming, but also successfully eject. coming, but also successfully eject. There's so many difficult things to put There's so many difficult things to put There's so many difficult things to put together here to understand how this together here to understand how this together here to understand how this could have been could have been could have been an intentional an intentional an intentional >> smell a rat. Like, do you think this is >> smell a rat. Like, do you think this is >> smell a rat. Like, do you think this is a fake story? a fake story? a fake story? >> It doesn't. No, not a fake story. It >> It doesn't. No, not a fake story. It >> It doesn't. No, not a fake story. It doesn't smell like an intentional doesn't smell like an intentional doesn't smell like an intentional attack. It doesn't sound like Iran was attack. It doesn't sound like Iran was attack. It doesn't sound like Iran was hiding in in the tall grass waiting for hiding in in the tall grass waiting for hiding in in the tall grass waiting for an Apache helicopter so it could an Apache helicopter so it could an Apache helicopter so it could surprise attack and shoot it down. It surprise attack and shoot it down. It surprise attack and shoot it down. It sounds like maybe it was a mistake. sounds like maybe it was a mistake. sounds like maybe it was a mistake. Maybe they sent warning. Maybe they Maybe they sent warning. Maybe they Maybe they sent warning. Maybe they thought it was an Israeli aircraft. thought it was an Israeli aircraft. thought it was an Israeli aircraft. Something like that may have happened. Something like that may have happened. Something like that may have happened. So, the Apache had time to gain So, the Apache had time to gain So, the Apache had time to gain distance, take maneuvers, prepare to distance, take maneuvers, prepare to distance, take maneuvers, prepare to evacuate, and then they were able to evacuate, and then they were able to evacuate, and then they were able to successfully rescue the pilots with successfully rescue the pilots with successfully rescue the pilots with unmanned uh drone boats, and then bring unmanned uh drone boats, and then bring unmanned uh drone boats, and then bring them to another place where they could them to another place where they could them to another place where they could be evacuated by a helicopter that wasn't be evacuated by a helicopter that wasn't be evacuated by a helicopter that wasn't shot down. So, there's multiple pieces shot down. So, there's multiple pieces shot down. So, there's multiple pieces here at play that here at play that here at play that >> doesn't make it sound like Iran was >> doesn't make it sound like Iran was >> doesn't make it sound like Iran was trying to violate a ceasefire or violate trying to violate a ceasefire or violate trying to violate a ceasefire or violate American soldiers in the battlefield, American soldiers in the battlefield, American soldiers in the battlefield, but Trump is certainly taking that but Trump is certainly taking that but Trump is certainly taking that approach. it when he says it cannot be approach. it when he says it cannot be approach. it when he says it cannot be unresponded to. It cannot be unanswered unresponded to. It cannot be unanswered unresponded to. It cannot be unanswered to. to. to. >> I think as of right now he's already >> I think as of right now he's already >> I think as of right now he's already begun the response. At least that's the begun the response. At least that's the begun the response. At least that's the early words. Um so one is that part of early words. Um so one is that part of early words. Um so one is that part of the smart response or the dumb response the smart response or the dumb response the smart response or the dumb response if you're actually trying to get a peace if you're actually trying to get a peace if you're actually trying to get a peace deal. What's the play here? deal. What's the play here? deal. What's the play here? >> I don't think Trump wants a peace deal. >> I don't think Trump wants a peace deal. >> I don't think Trump wants a peace deal. So I think that's really important to So I think that's really important to So I think that's really important to understand. understand. understand. >> Of all the people involved, I thought >> Of all the people involved, I thought >> Of all the people involved, I thought he's the one person actually does want he's the one person actually does want he's the one person actually does want peace. peace. peace. >> So I don't think he wants peace. I think >> So I don't think he wants peace. I think >> So I don't think he wants peace. I think he wants leverage. And that's an he wants leverage. And that's an he wants leverage. And that's an important thing when you when you look important thing when you when you look important thing when you when you look at the Iran conflict. such a unique at the Iran conflict. such a unique at the Iran conflict. such a unique conflict compared to the uh conflict compared to the uh conflict compared to the uh naroterrorism war that we were fighting naroterrorism war that we were fighting naroterrorism war that we were fighting against Maduro and in Mexico. It's very against Maduro and in Mexico. It's very against Maduro and in Mexico. It's very very different than the Ukraine conflict very different than the Ukraine conflict very different than the Ukraine conflict with Russia. It's it's categorically with Russia. It's it's categorically with Russia. It's it's categorically different in so many ways because you've different in so many ways because you've different in so many ways because you've got Iran involved. You've got Lebanon got Iran involved. You've got Lebanon got Iran involved. You've got Lebanon involved. You have the various proxies involved. You have the various proxies involved. You have the various proxies related to Iran. And then this Iran related to Iran. And then this Iran related to Iran. And then this Iran conflict has been multiple years in the conflict has been multiple years in the conflict has been multiple years in the making. If you just look at modern making. If you just look at modern making. If you just look at modern history, it's three years in the making. history, it's three years in the making. history, it's three years in the making. If you look at longer history, it's, you If you look at longer history, it's, you If you look at longer history, it's, you know, 30 years in the making. So at the know, 30 years in the making. So at the know, 30 years in the making. So at the end of the day, what we realize is Iran end of the day, what we realize is Iran end of the day, what we realize is Iran has made a full of the largest economy has made a full of the largest economy has made a full of the largest economy and the largest military, modern and the largest military, modern and the largest military, modern military in the world. We went in to military in the world. We went in to military in the world. We went in to assassinate Ayatollah Kamani and we came assassinate Ayatollah Kamani and we came assassinate Ayatollah Kamani and we came out with out with out with a new Ayatollah Kamani. a new Ayatollah Kamani. a new Ayatollah Kamani. >> That's the son of the the hardliner son >> That's the son of the the hardliner son >> That's the son of the the hardliner son is now the Ayatollah. So we don't we is now the Ayatollah. So we don't we is now the Ayatollah. So we don't we can't even claim credit in terms of can't even claim credit in terms of can't even claim credit in terms of title for actually assassinating their title for actually assassinating their title for actually assassinating their leader, let alone destroying the Islamic leader, let alone destroying the Islamic leader, let alone destroying the Islamic revolution. We we just we can't. So what revolution. We we just we can't. So what revolution. We we just we can't. So what was it all for? In addition to that, the was it all for? In addition to that, the was it all for? In addition to that, the Straits of Hormuz have now become the Straits of Hormuz have now become the Straits of Hormuz have now become the property essentially of Iran. We don't property essentially of Iran. We don't property essentially of Iran. We don't know whether or not Oman is going to know whether or not Oman is going to know whether or not Oman is going to take exercise their right over the other take exercise their right over the other take exercise their right over the other side of the Straits of Hormuz, side of the Straits of Hormuz, side of the Straits of Hormuz, >> which is putting global oil in a tail >> which is putting global oil in a tail >> which is putting global oil in a tail spin. And global oil is separate from spin. And global oil is separate from spin. And global oil is separate from American oil, but still kind of the same American oil, but still kind of the same American oil, but still kind of the same because it's all one global marketplace. because it's all one global marketplace. because it's all one global marketplace. So even the efforts that we took to So even the efforts that we took to So even the efforts that we took to secure oil in Venezuela by capturing secure oil in Venezuela by capturing secure oil in Venezuela by capturing Maduro doesn't really quite work in our Maduro doesn't really quite work in our Maduro doesn't really quite work in our advantage with what's going on in Iran. advantage with what's going on in Iran. advantage with what's going on in Iran. And at the end of the day, Iran being a And at the end of the day, Iran being a And at the end of the day, Iran being a threat to the Middle East is a good threat to the Middle East is a good threat to the Middle East is a good thing for the United States. thing for the United States. thing for the United States. >> What? Because you have all of the other >> What? Because you have all of the other >> What? Because you have all of the other Sunni American allies in the region that Sunni American allies in the region that Sunni American allies in the region that like Saudis and UAE that are buying like Saudis and UAE that are buying like Saudis and UAE that are buying American weapons, invest in American American weapons, invest in American American weapons, invest in American tech, and aren't capable of fully tech, and aren't capable of fully tech, and aren't capable of fully defending themselves. And who are they defending themselves. And who are they defending themselves. And who are they going to lean on? They're going to lean going to lean on? They're going to lean going to lean on? They're going to lean on the United States to help defend on the United States to help defend on the United States to help defend them. So economically, you want a little them. So economically, you want a little them. So economically, you want a little bit of uncertainty in the Middle East bit of uncertainty in the Middle East bit of uncertainty in the Middle East because it drives the American because it drives the American because it drives the American military-industrial engine because we military-industrial engine because we military-industrial engine because we keep providing weapons to Israel and keep providing weapons to Israel and keep providing weapons to Israel and Saudi and UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and Saudi and UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and Saudi and UAE and Qatar and Bahrain and all the other major parties out there all the other major parties out there all the other major parties out there that have a problem with Iran. Okay. So that have a problem with Iran. Okay. So that have a problem with Iran. Okay. So the last time we talked about this and I the last time we talked about this and I the last time we talked about this and I said, "What do you think Trump is said, "What do you think Trump is said, "What do you think Trump is doing?" You said, "I think he's doing?" You said, "I think he's doing?" You said, "I think he's protecting Trump's legacy. Forget protecting Trump's legacy. Forget protecting Trump's legacy. Forget America for a second. Somebody who just America for a second. Somebody who just America for a second. Somebody who just wants to project power, look strong." If wants to project power, look strong." If wants to project power, look strong." If we take that framing, it's not my we take that framing, it's not my we take that framing, it's not my framing, but if we take that framing, framing, but if we take that framing, framing, but if we take that framing, what why would he read that situation so what why would he read that situation so what why would he read that situation so differently? Like if you're saying that differently? Like if you're saying that differently? Like if you're saying that actually is a good thing, why would he actually is a good thing, why would he actually is a good thing, why would he target them? Why wouldn't he go I mean, target them? Why wouldn't he go I mean, target them? Why wouldn't he go I mean, he had just come off such an incredible he had just come off such an incredible he had just come off such an incredible win in Venezuela, why take the huge win in Venezuela, why take the huge win in Venezuela, why take the huge gamble in the Middle East? Because I gamble in the Middle East? Because I gamble in the Middle East? Because I always saw it as Trump is trying to always saw it as Trump is trying to always saw it as Trump is trying to secure the $2 trillion of promised secure the $2 trillion of promised secure the $2 trillion of promised investment. He sees Iran as a investment. He sees Iran as a investment. He sees Iran as a destabilizing force. He wants to make destabilizing force. He wants to make destabilizing force. He wants to make sure that, you know, we can get the sure that, you know, we can get the sure that, you know, we can get the money into the US basically into AI money into the US basically into AI money into the US basically into AI infrastructure, protect America, which infrastructure, protect America, which infrastructure, protect America, which has just become a financialized hub. Um, has just become a financialized hub. Um, has just become a financialized hub. Um, but if we would have been better off but if we would have been better off but if we would have been better off with instability there, why would Trump with instability there, why would Trump with instability there, why would Trump move in? move in? move in? >> It's not that I think we would have been >> It's not that I think we would have been >> It's not that I think we would have been better off with instability, the the better off with instability, the the better off with instability, the the when I when I when I >> Is that what you just said or did I >> Is that what you just said or did I >> Is that what you just said or did I >> No, no. What I'm trying to say is the >> No, no. What I'm trying to say is the >> No, no. What I'm trying to say is the United States when it goes into any area United States when it goes into any area United States when it goes into any area of active conflict, it's weighing of active conflict, it's weighing of active conflict, it's weighing against two opposing outcomes. There's against two opposing outcomes. There's against two opposing outcomes. There's one outcome that is your preferred one outcome that is your preferred one outcome that is your preferred outcome, but then you always go in with outcome, but then you always go in with outcome, but then you always go in with a plan B. What happens if my preferred a plan B. What happens if my preferred a plan B. What happens if my preferred outcome isn't met? outcome isn't met? outcome isn't met? >> How do [clears throat] I change the >> How do [clears throat] I change the >> How do [clears throat] I change the narrative? How do I spin the story? How narrative? How do I spin the story? How narrative? How do I spin the story? How do I capitalize on the momentum that's do I capitalize on the momentum that's do I capitalize on the momentum that's going to be gained from what I didn't going to be gained from what I didn't going to be gained from what I didn't want to have happen? So we have so if want to have happen? So we have so if want to have happen? So we have so if you look at it if you look at it through you look at it if you look at it through you look at it if you look at it through this lens Donald Trump talks to his this lens Donald Trump talks to his this lens Donald Trump talks to his panel of adviserss whether his panel panel of adviserss whether his panel panel of adviserss whether his panel panel of advisers pander to Donald Trump panel of advisers pander to Donald Trump panel of advisers pander to Donald Trump or whether they actually give him their or whether they actually give him their or whether they actually give him their honest opinion none of us know but they honest opinion none of us know but they honest opinion none of us know but they come off of this Maduro raid with like come off of this Maduro raid with like come off of this Maduro raid with like you said great success. Look at how you said great success. Look at how you said great success. Look at how powerful the United States is. It powerful the United States is. It powerful the United States is. It carries out this almost perfect mission carries out this almost perfect mission carries out this almost perfect mission uh capturing a world leader changing the uh capturing a world leader changing the uh capturing a world leader changing the course of of the future for the Western course of of the future for the Western course of of the future for the Western Hemisphere. It's hard not to have Hemisphere. It's hard not to have Hemisphere. It's hard not to have bravado coming out of that and say, "You bravado coming out of that and say, "You bravado coming out of that and say, "You know what? Let's do it again. Let's do know what? Let's do it again. Let's do know what? Let's do it again. Let's do it again." Because through Donald it again." Because through Donald it again." Because through Donald Trump's eyes, he could be the president Trump's eyes, he could be the president Trump's eyes, he could be the president that didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, that didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, that didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize, the president who was never supposed to the president who was never supposed to the president who was never supposed to be the forever war president, and he be the forever war president, and he be the forever war president, and he could just decisively carry out these could just decisively carry out these could just decisively carry out these limited, what's called limited war limited, what's called limited war limited, what's called limited war actions in different countries. And he actions in different countries. And he actions in different countries. And he could essentially topple the four major could essentially topple the four major could essentially topple the four major thorns in America's side, Venezuela, thorns in America's side, Venezuela, thorns in America's side, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, Iran eventually. Like Cuba, North Korea, Iran eventually. Like Cuba, North Korea, Iran eventually. Like he could just topple them all in one he could just topple them all in one he could just topple them all in one presidential streak and that would presidential streak and that would presidential streak and that would cement the Trump legacy forever. Whether cement the Trump legacy forever. Whether cement the Trump legacy forever. Whether you like him or not, whether you like you like him or not, whether you like you like him or not, whether you like the name or not, whether you agree with the name or not, whether you agree with the name or not, whether you agree with him or not, him or not, him or not, >> he did something that decades of other >> he did something that decades of other >> he did something that decades of other presidents couldn't do in one term, presidents couldn't do in one term, presidents couldn't do in one term, potentially in two years, right? If he's potentially in two years, right? If he's potentially in two years, right? If he's trying to beat it, race it in before the trying to beat it, race it in before the trying to beat it, race it in before the midterm, midterm, midterm, >> right? So, that's plan A. Plan A is, >> right? So, that's plan A. Plan A is, >> right? So, that's plan A. Plan A is, hey, let's take advantage of this thing hey, let's take advantage of this thing hey, let's take advantage of this thing and let's let's do what we're going to and let's let's do what we're going to and let's let's do what we're going to do. Iran is like foaming at the mouth to do. Iran is like foaming at the mouth to do. Iran is like foaming at the mouth to to uh destroy the the Islamic Republic to uh destroy the the Islamic Republic to uh destroy the the Islamic Republic or the Islamic Revolution. He's excited or the Islamic Revolution. He's excited or the Islamic Revolution. He's excited to come in and do this. They've got to come in and do this. They've got to come in and do this. They've got outstanding intelligence. They've been outstanding intelligence. They've been outstanding intelligence. They've been they've been preparing for it their they've been preparing for it their they've been preparing for it their whole existence. They are truly Iran was whole existence. They are truly Iran was whole existence. They are truly Iran was only ever an existential threat against only ever an existential threat against only ever an existential threat against Israel. Israel. Israel. Even our own national intelligence. Even our own national intelligence. Even our own national intelligence. >> So sorry you said Iran wanted to uh >> So sorry you said Iran wanted to uh >> So sorry you said Iran wanted to uh overturn. Did you mean Israel or did you overturn. Did you mean Israel or did you overturn. Did you mean Israel or did you mean the people of Iran? mean the people of Iran? mean the people of Iran? >> Israel wanted take you destroy. Yes. >> Israel wanted take you destroy. Yes. >> Israel wanted take you destroy. Yes. Destroy Iran because Iran is an Destroy Iran because Iran is an Destroy Iran because Iran is an existential threat to Israel even though existential threat to Israel even though existential threat to Israel even though Isra has been presented to us as an Isra has been presented to us as an Isra has been presented to us as an existential threat to the United States. existential threat to the United States. existential threat to the United States. >> Incorrect terminology but they were in >> Incorrect terminology but they were in >> Incorrect terminology but they were in fact that kind of that level of a threat fact that kind of that level of a threat fact that kind of that level of a threat to to Israel. So, Israel's close closely to to Israel. So, Israel's close closely to to Israel. So, Israel's close closely supporting us. They have all the intel. supporting us. They have all the intel. supporting us. They have all the intel. They have the weapons, the firepower, They have the weapons, the firepower, They have the weapons, the firepower, everything they need and plans on the everything they need and plans on the everything they need and plans on the shelf for how they would eradicate the shelf for how they would eradicate the shelf for how they would eradicate the Iranian leadership. So, Donald Trump is Iranian leadership. So, Donald Trump is Iranian leadership. So, Donald Trump is like, "Yeah, let's let's pull this off. like, "Yeah, let's let's pull this off. like, "Yeah, let's let's pull this off. Let's do this." Best case scenario, we Let's do this." Best case scenario, we Let's do this." Best case scenario, we completely obliterate Iranian completely obliterate Iranian completely obliterate Iranian leadership. Iran rises up. They need leadership. Iran rises up. They need leadership. Iran rises up. They need someone to guide them. It will fall to someone to guide them. It will fall to someone to guide them. It will fall to our Sunni neighbors to help rebuild our Sunni neighbors to help rebuild our Sunni neighbors to help rebuild Iran. everything's in our best interest. Iran. everything's in our best interest. Iran. everything's in our best interest. What if that doesn't work? Well, if that What if that doesn't work? Well, if that What if that doesn't work? Well, if that doesn't work, Iran perseveres and doesn't work, Iran perseveres and doesn't work, Iran perseveres and becomes a greater threat in the near becomes a greater threat in the near becomes a greater threat in the near term in the region, which then means term in the region, which then means term in the region, which then means that our partners in the region need us that our partners in the region need us that our partners in the region need us more than ever because now it goes from more than ever because now it goes from more than ever because now it goes from being a theoretical threat to a clear being a theoretical threat to a clear being a theoretical threat to a clear and present danger. And even if they're and present danger. And even if they're and present danger. And even if they're pissed about the fact that they're pissed about the fact that they're pissed about the fact that they're getting bombed because of us, they will getting bombed because of us, they will getting bombed because of us, they will still turn to us to be their ally. This still turn to us to be their ally. This still turn to us to be their ally. This is actually documented in the Department is actually documented in the Department is actually documented in the Department of Wars 2026 strategy doctrine where of Wars 2026 strategy doctrine where of Wars 2026 strategy doctrine where it's called burden sharing where it's called burden sharing where it's called burden sharing where anything the United States does our anything the United States does our anything the United States does our allies should understand that they have allies should understand that they have allies should understand that they have to share part of the burden whatever to share part of the burden whatever to share part of the burden whatever that burden is whether it's cost or that burden is whether it's cost or that burden is whether it's cost or lives. Okay. So has that actually lives. Okay. So has that actually lives. Okay. So has that actually happened? Because the at least the happened? Because the at least the happened? Because the at least the propaganda that I'm falling for I guess propaganda that I'm falling for I guess propaganda that I'm falling for I guess is that uh it hasn't driven them into is that uh it hasn't driven them into is that uh it hasn't driven them into our arms. It has made them realize that our arms. It has made them realize that our arms. It has made them realize that we are not strong enough to protect we are not strong enough to protect we are not strong enough to protect them. That, as you said, Iran has made a them. That, as you said, Iran has made a them. That, as you said, Iran has made a fool of us. And so those guys, they're fool of us. And so those guys, they're fool of us. And so those guys, they're not looking at us going, "Okay, I'm mad not looking at us going, "Okay, I'm mad not looking at us going, "Okay, I'm mad at you that you got us into it, but at you that you got us into it, but at you that you got us into it, but you're the strong guy, so we're still you're the strong guy, so we're still you're the strong guy, so we're still going to align with you." Feels more going to align with you." Feels more going to align with you." Feels more like they're kind of pulling back and like they're kind of pulling back and like they're kind of pulling back and saying, "Yeah, I'm not sure you're going saying, "Yeah, I'm not sure you're going saying, "Yeah, I'm not sure you're going to be the future solution here." I I to be the future solution here." I I to be the future solution here." I I agree with you. And I think and you're agree with you. And I think and you're agree with you. And I think and you're seeing that especially with the UAE seeing that especially with the UAE seeing that especially with the UAE leaving. I think they left OPEC. leaving. I think they left OPEC. leaving. I think they left OPEC. >> Yep. Um Saudi Arabia is is engaging but >> Yep. Um Saudi Arabia is is engaging but >> Yep. Um Saudi Arabia is is engaging but not engaging to the extent the United not engaging to the extent the United not engaging to the extent the United States hoped that they would. Is Israel States hoped that they would. Is Israel States hoped that they would. Is Israel continues to press on or wants to press continues to press on or wants to press continues to press on or wants to press on. This whole conflict in Lebanon is on. This whole conflict in Lebanon is on. This whole conflict in Lebanon is kicked off. So what what we're seeing is kicked off. So what what we're seeing is kicked off. So what what we're seeing is something that the intelligence world something that the intelligence world something that the intelligence world calls overshoot. Overshoot is when you calls overshoot. Overshoot is when you calls overshoot. Overshoot is when you commit more resources than you actually commit more resources than you actually commit more resources than you actually have access to. And we're overshooting have access to. And we're overshooting have access to. And we're overshooting on a limited war campaign, which is kind on a limited war campaign, which is kind on a limited war campaign, which is kind of a double doctrinal violation for us of a double doctrinal violation for us of a double doctrinal violation for us because even I when I went through because even I when I went through because even I when I went through officer candidate school, you learned officer candidate school, you learned officer candidate school, you learned very early on you don't engage in very early on you don't engage in very early on you don't engage in limited war because we learned in limited war because we learned in limited war because we learned in Vietnam that limited war doesn't work. Vietnam that limited war doesn't work. Vietnam that limited war doesn't work. And yet when we learned again in And yet when we learned again in And yet when we learned again in Afghanistan that limited war doesn't Afghanistan that limited war doesn't Afghanistan that limited war doesn't work, but we continue to execute these work, but we continue to execute these work, but we continue to execute these limited wars and then we overshoot, limited wars and then we overshoot, limited wars and then we overshoot, meaning we commit more resources than we meaning we commit more resources than we meaning we commit more resources than we currently have access to to that effort. currently have access to to that effort. currently have access to to that effort. So now you run the risk of failing to So now you run the risk of failing to So now you run the risk of failing to meet your objectives and burning through meet your objectives and burning through meet your objectives and burning through what resources you need that you don't what resources you need that you don't what resources you need that you don't actually have access to. So actually have access to. So actually have access to. So Donald Trump is in this sticky position Donald Trump is in this sticky position Donald Trump is in this sticky position now and the United States because we are now and the United States because we are now and the United States because we are following the Trump doctrine. We're all following the Trump doctrine. We're all following the Trump doctrine. We're all in this sticky situation where we have in this sticky situation where we have in this sticky situation where we have we have shown that we can't be trusted we have shown that we can't be trusted we have shown that we can't be trusted not only by our allies in the Middle not only by our allies in the Middle not only by our allies in the Middle East, but our allies in the Far East and East, but our allies in the Far East and East, but our allies in the Far East and our allies in the Western Hemisphere. our allies in the Western Hemisphere. our allies in the Western Hemisphere. Nobody really knows what we're going to Nobody really knows what we're going to Nobody really knows what we're going to do next. And none of our promises are do next. And none of our promises are do next. And none of our promises are really worth much salt anymore because really worth much salt anymore because really worth much salt anymore because because the United States could do because the United States could do because the United States could do anything it wants. We unlocked, we anything it wants. We unlocked, we anything it wants. We unlocked, we opened Pandora's box on the idea of opened Pandora's box on the idea of opened Pandora's box on the idea of cutting the head off of leadership, cutting the head off of leadership, cutting the head off of leadership, assassinations and renditions which we assassinations and renditions which we assassinations and renditions which we have already deemed to be illegal from have already deemed to be illegal from have already deemed to be illegal from our own war on terror. A rendition is our own war on terror. A rendition is our own war on terror. A rendition is what we did of Nicholas Maduro. So we've what we did of Nicholas Maduro. So we've what we did of Nicholas Maduro. So we've done two we violated two different forms done two we violated two different forms done two we violated two different forms of international law that we ourselves of international law that we ourselves of international law that we ourselves set in motion. So what does that mean set in motion. So what does that mean set in motion. So what does that mean for the future? There's a the for the future? There's a the for the future? There's a the instability is greater than it's been in instability is greater than it's been in instability is greater than it's been in the past and even the Trump the past and even the Trump the past and even the Trump administration is having a hard time administration is having a hard time administration is having a hard time helping us understand why we're doing helping us understand why we're doing helping us understand why we're doing it. Instead, they seem to keep target it. 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Um is that the smart play? done that. Um is that the smart play? Should he have just gone, listen, wars Should he have just gone, listen, wars Should he have just gone, listen, wars wild. This is crazy. Like you said, I'm wild. This is crazy. Like you said, I'm wild. This is crazy. Like you said, I'm not even sure this was intentional. Uh not even sure this was intentional. Uh not even sure this was intentional. Uh should he go limited war doesn't work. should he go limited war doesn't work. should he go limited war doesn't work. We're going all the way in. We're We're going all the way in. We're We're going all the way in. We're blowing everything up. I've told you I blowing everything up. I've told you I blowing everything up. I've told you I was going to do it. You shot down the was going to do it. You shot down the was going to do it. You shot down the helicopter. This is the cover story I helicopter. This is the cover story I helicopter. This is the cover story I need. I'm going in. You guys are [ __ ] need. I'm going in. You guys are [ __ ] need. I'm going in. You guys are [ __ ] >> Uh or something else. >> Uh or something else. >> Uh or something else. I think the big question there is what's I think the big question there is what's I think the big question there is what's the outcome that we're looking for? If the outcome that we're looking for? If the outcome that we're looking for? If we believe that the outcome Donald Trump we believe that the outcome Donald Trump we believe that the outcome Donald Trump is looking for is to follow through on is looking for is to follow through on is looking for is to follow through on the objectives that they've stated for the objectives that they've stated for the objectives that they've stated for Iran, which is to end the role of the Iran, which is to end the role of the Iran, which is to end the role of the Ayatollah and to overthrow the the Ayatollah and to overthrow the the Ayatollah and to overthrow the the government of Iran. He has government of Iran. He has government of Iran. He has >> well he's banged on recently about >> well he's banged on recently about >> well he's banged on recently about nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear nuclear >> for sure but nuclear is is a nonsensical >> for sure but nuclear is is a nonsensical >> for sure but nuclear is is a nonsensical argument. It is if anybody still argument. It is if anybody still argument. It is if anybody still believes that there is a nuclear threat believes that there is a nuclear threat believes that there is a nuclear threat from Iran we have we have completely let from Iran we have we have completely let from Iran we have we have completely let go of of actual factual information. go of of actual factual information. go of of actual factual information. >> So that is just pure propaganda. >> So that is just pure propaganda. >> So that is just pure propaganda. >> That is pure propaganda. The the nuclear >> That is pure propaganda. The the nuclear >> That is pure propaganda. The the nuclear threat from Iran is pure propaganda. And threat from Iran is pure propaganda. And threat from Iran is pure propaganda. And you can literally read the public you can literally read the public you can literally read the public documentation going back multiple years documentation going back multiple years documentation going back multiple years from the DNI, from CIA, from the nuclear from the DNI, from CIA, from the nuclear from the DNI, from CIA, from the nuclear watchd dogss themselves talking about watchd dogss themselves talking about watchd dogss themselves talking about how Iran has enriched uranium to 60%. how Iran has enriched uranium to 60%. how Iran has enriched uranium to 60%. That is true. 60% is not weapons grade That is true. 60% is not weapons grade That is true. 60% is not weapons grade uranium. No, but it's on the path like uranium. No, but it's on the path like uranium. No, but it's on the path like you don't need anything over whatever you don't need anything over whatever you don't need anything over whatever 16% I forget what the real number is. 16% I forget what the real number is. 16% I forget what the real number is. It's and you said this last time, but my It's and you said this last time, but my It's and you said this last time, but my real question is that you you have Iran real question is that you you have Iran real question is that you you have Iran going down that path clearly trying to going down that path clearly trying to going down that path clearly trying to do something. And then you've also said do something. And then you've also said do something. And then you've also said Iran is a black box. America doesn't Iran is a black box. America doesn't Iran is a black box. America doesn't have good intel there. And so I start have good intel there. And so I start have good intel there. And so I start putting those together and I go, I don't putting those together and I go, I don't putting those together and I go, I don't know that. In fact, you started by know that. In fact, you started by know that. In fact, you started by saying there's a lot of this that we're saying there's a lot of this that we're saying there's a lot of this that we're not even allowed to know. So not even allowed to know. So not even allowed to know. So given that, given that, given that, do you look at the actions of the US? Do do you look at the actions of the US? Do do you look at the actions of the US? Do you look at the actions of Iran and go, you look at the actions of Iran and go, you look at the actions of Iran and go, "Yeah, clearly forget the documents "Yeah, clearly forget the documents "Yeah, clearly forget the documents because again, blackbox, maybe we just because again, blackbox, maybe we just because again, blackbox, maybe we just don't know." don't know." don't know." Do you get the feeling based on the Do you get the feeling based on the Do you get the feeling based on the actions that you can see now that the actions that you can see now that the actions that you can see now that the nuclear threat is fake? I get the nuclear threat is fake? I get the nuclear threat is fake? I get the feeling based on the actions that we see feeling based on the actions that we see feeling based on the actions that we see now that the nuclear threat is now that the nuclear threat is now that the nuclear threat is misunderstood. misunderstood. misunderstood. we eradicated their nuclear program in we eradicated their nuclear program in we eradicated their nuclear program in July of 2025 according to July of 2025 according to July of 2025 according to >> certainly we were told to believe so >> certainly we were told to believe so >> certainly we were told to believe so >> according to some people right uh and >> according to some people right uh and >> according to some people right uh and then we are told now that all they have then we are told now that all they have then we are told now that all they have is nuclear dust is nuclear dust is nuclear dust but they seem to have more than nuclear but they seem to have more than nuclear but they seem to have more than nuclear dust the the challenge here is also if dust the the challenge here is also if dust the the challenge here is also if Iran really wanted access to nuclear Iran really wanted access to nuclear Iran really wanted access to nuclear weapons weapons weapons their indigenous program is just one of their indigenous program is just one of their indigenous program is just one of several avenues that they would take several avenues that they would take several avenues that they would take especially if they're close allies with especially if they're close allies with especially if they're close allies with both Russia and China, right? And a a both Russia and China, right? And a a both Russia and China, right? And a a nuclear threat, a nuclear weapon threat nuclear threat, a nuclear weapon threat nuclear threat, a nuclear weapon threat requires both a bomb and a delivery requires both a bomb and a delivery requires both a bomb and a delivery vehicle. And the science required for vehicle. And the science required for vehicle. And the science required for both of those is incredibly complicated. both of those is incredibly complicated. both of those is incredibly complicated. It's why North Korea has the explosive It's why North Korea has the explosive It's why North Korea has the explosive bomb, but they fail to have the delivery bomb, but they fail to have the delivery bomb, but they fail to have the delivery vehicle even years after they've vehicle even years after they've vehicle even years after they've demonstrated that they can detonate a demonstrated that they can detonate a demonstrated that they can detonate a nuclear device. So, when we're told that nuclear device. So, when we're told that nuclear device. So, when we're told that there's a nuclear threat from Iran, what there's a nuclear threat from Iran, what there's a nuclear threat from Iran, what does that mean? Does it mean that does that mean? Does it mean that does that mean? Does it mean that they're close to having uranium? Does it they're close to having uranium? Does it they're close to having uranium? Does it mean that they're close to having mean that they're close to having mean that they're close to having detonatable uranium, aka a nuclear bomb? detonatable uranium, aka a nuclear bomb? detonatable uranium, aka a nuclear bomb? Or does it mean that they have a Or does it mean that they have a Or does it mean that they have a detonatable uranium attached to a detonatable uranium attached to a detonatable uranium attached to a targetable delivery system that can also targetable delivery system that can also targetable delivery system that can also reach the United States? Those are three reach the United States? Those are three reach the United States? Those are three very different storylines, but they're very different storylines, but they're very different storylines, but they're all being wrapped together in a way that all being wrapped together in a way that all being wrapped together in a way that is in congruent with the message that is in congruent with the message that is in congruent with the message that we've already been told. because as of we've already been told. because as of we've already been told. because as of July of 2025, it was completely July of 2025, it was completely July of 2025, it was completely eradicated. If you go to the White eradicated. If you go to the White eradicated. If you go to the White House's web page still today, it says House's web page still today, it says House's web page still today, it says even though the program was eradicated even though the program was eradicated even though the program was eradicated in July of 2025, we're still going in to in July of 2025, we're still going in to in July of 2025, we're still going in to make sure something I don't even know make sure something I don't even know make sure something I don't even know how they're spinning it right now. how they're spinning it right now. how they're spinning it right now. >> Make sure something something. >> Make sure something something. >> Make sure something something. >> But it's nonsensical. It's nonsensical. >> But it's nonsensical. It's nonsensical. >> But it's nonsensical. It's nonsensical. And it's to an intelligent American, And it's to an intelligent American, And it's to an intelligent American, it's kind of insulting to be told things it's kind of insulting to be told things it's kind of insulting to be told things that are so diametrically opposed. Two that are so diametrically opposed. Two that are so diametrically opposed. Two things that can't exist at the same things that can't exist at the same things that can't exist at the same time. a program can't be eradicated but time. a program can't be eradicated but time. a program can't be eradicated but also be an imminent threat. It doesn't also be an imminent threat. It doesn't also be an imminent threat. It doesn't make sense. If there's an imminent make sense. If there's an imminent make sense. If there's an imminent threat, it's not coming from Iran. It's threat, it's not coming from Iran. It's threat, it's not coming from Iran. It's coming through Iran. So, if it's the coming through Iran. So, if it's the coming through Iran. So, if it's the Chinese that are giving Iran missile Chinese that are giving Iran missile Chinese that are giving Iran missile technology that's nuclear capable, let's technology that's nuclear capable, let's technology that's nuclear capable, let's talk about that. Don't just tell us that talk about that. Don't just tell us that talk about that. Don't just tell us that Iran has a nuclear program that was Iran has a nuclear program that was Iran has a nuclear program that was supposedly obliterated and is apparently supposedly obliterated and is apparently supposedly obliterated and is apparently still alive. And this is what's the still alive. And this is what's the still alive. And this is what's the black box. The United States may have black box. The United States may have black box. The United States may have little to no intel on Iran, but that little to no intel on Iran, but that little to no intel on Iran, but that doesn't mean that Israel is blind to it. doesn't mean that Israel is blind to it. doesn't mean that Israel is blind to it. It also doesn't mean that some of Iran's It also doesn't mean that some of Iran's It also doesn't mean that some of Iran's quote unquote allies or even countries quote unquote allies or even countries quote unquote allies or even countries like Turkey or Japan don't have intel on like Turkey or Japan don't have intel on like Turkey or Japan don't have intel on it, right? And they could share that it, right? And they could share that it, right? And they could share that intel with the United States. It just intel with the United States. It just intel with the United States. It just means that our own native means that our own native means that our own native um original intel is lacking. if we're um original intel is lacking. if we're um original intel is lacking. if we're trying to identify what the outcome is trying to identify what the outcome is trying to identify what the outcome is that we want so we can determine what's that we want so we can determine what's that we want so we can determine what's a smart play, what's a dumb play, you're a smart play, what's a dumb play, you're a smart play, what's a dumb play, you're taking the nuclear thing off the table. taking the nuclear thing off the table. taking the nuclear thing off the table. So if it's not that, are you do you have So if it's not that, are you do you have So if it's not that, are you do you have any guesses based on the behaviors that any guesses based on the behaviors that any guesses based on the behaviors that you can see or the things that you know you can see or the things that you know you can see or the things that you know from your training that tell you this is from your training that tell you this is from your training that tell you this is the one or two or three most likely the one or two or three most likely the one or two or three most likely outcomes that they're attempting to outcomes that they're attempting to outcomes that they're attempting to achieve? Right now, I think the the most achieve? Right now, I think the the most achieve? Right now, I think the the most likely outcome that that the presidency likely outcome that that the presidency likely outcome that that the presidency that the Trump administration is trying that the Trump administration is trying that the Trump administration is trying to achieve is they're trying to find a to achieve is they're trying to find a to achieve is they're trying to find a way to end active hostilities with Iran way to end active hostilities with Iran way to end active hostilities with Iran because we have overshot. because we have overshot. because we have overshot. We have broken our own doctrine. We We have broken our own doctrine. We We have broken our own doctrine. We don't have an endgame. We don't have an don't have an endgame. We don't have an don't have an endgame. We don't have an exit plan. And we failed to meet the exit plan. And we failed to meet the exit plan. And we failed to meet the majority of our stated objectives. So, majority of our stated objectives. So, majority of our stated objectives. So, how do we how do we how do we end this in a way where essentially the end this in a way where essentially the end this in a way where essentially the press moves on to something else, the press moves on to something else, the press moves on to something else, the American people move on to something American people move on to something American people move on to something else, the public focuses on something else, the public focuses on something else, the public focuses on something else, and especially they focus on else, and especially they focus on else, and especially they focus on something that's a good news story something that's a good news story something that's a good news story because the longer we focus on Iran, because the longer we focus on Iran, because the longer we focus on Iran, it's just a confusing bad news story. it's just a confusing bad news story. it's just a confusing bad news story. So, that's what they're looking for. And So, that's what they're looking for. And So, that's what they're looking for. And they know they can't do that as long as they know they can't do that as long as they know they can't do that as long as there's constant hostilities happening. there's constant hostilities happening. there's constant hostilities happening. But at the same time, Donald Trump has But at the same time, Donald Trump has But at the same time, Donald Trump has this this make America great again uh this this make America great again uh this this make America great again uh mantra that he has to feed. And he has mantra that he has to feed. And he has mantra that he has to feed. And he has this very radicalized base that believe this very radicalized base that believe this very radicalized base that believe in Donald Trump even more than they in Donald Trump even more than they in Donald Trump even more than they believe in the United States, even more believe in the United States, even more believe in the United States, even more than they believe in like democracy and than they believe in like democracy and than they believe in like democracy and the purpose of the United States. They the purpose of the United States. They the purpose of the United States. They believe in Donald Trump. So he has to believe in Donald Trump. So he has to believe in Donald Trump. So he has to meet their needs, too. And how do you meet their needs, too. And how do you meet their needs, too. And how do you make America great again if you look the make America great again if you look the make America great again if you look the other way when there's a battlefield other way when there's a battlefield other way when there's a battlefield accident? If he were to take that accident? If he were to take that accident? If he were to take that approach, if he were to be able to say approach, if he were to be able to say approach, if he were to be able to say that consistently, I think people would that consistently, I think people would that consistently, I think people would follow him. If he were to say right out follow him. If he were to say right out follow him. If he were to say right out of the gates, hey, there was a there was of the gates, hey, there was a there was of the gates, hey, there was a there was a shooting or an aircraft got shot down. a shooting or an aircraft got shot down. a shooting or an aircraft got shot down. We don't know the details yet. We're We don't know the details yet. We're We don't know the details yet. We're digging into it, but our American troops digging into it, but our American troops digging into it, but our American troops are safe. Later on, he might be able to are safe. Later on, he might be able to are safe. Later on, he might be able to come back and say, you know, it was an come back and say, you know, it was an come back and say, you know, it was an accidental shooting. We don't believe accidental shooting. We don't believe accidental shooting. We don't believe that this was intended to be an attack that this was intended to be an attack that this was intended to be an attack on American troops, you know, and we're on American troops, you know, and we're on American troops, you know, and we're telling Iran sternly that we're keeping telling Iran sternly that we're keeping telling Iran sternly that we're keeping an eye out for our people. You can do an eye out for our people. You can do an eye out for our people. You can do that, but that's not how it starts. that, but that's not how it starts. that, but that's not how it starts. Instead, it starts with some radical Instead, it starts with some radical Instead, it starts with some radical tweet or some kind of crazy accusation tweet or some kind of crazy accusation tweet or some kind of crazy accusation and you can't walk that back. Okay. So, and you can't walk that back. Okay. So, and you can't walk that back. Okay. So, in that scenario, if he So, you've said in that scenario, if he So, you've said in that scenario, if he So, you've said two sort of motivational things for two sort of motivational things for two sort of motivational things for Trump. So, one is he wants leverage, not Trump. So, one is he wants leverage, not Trump. So, one is he wants leverage, not necessarily peace, but he wants leverage necessarily peace, but he wants leverage necessarily peace, but he wants leverage and he wants an end to the hostilities. and he wants an end to the hostilities. and he wants an end to the hostilities. So, if those are the sort of merged So, if those are the sort of merged So, if those are the sort of merged outcome that we want, an end to outcome that we want, an end to outcome that we want, an end to hostilities that puts us in a highly hostilities that puts us in a highly hostilities that puts us in a highly leveraged position, um what's the play leveraged position, um what's the play leveraged position, um what's the play here? What should he do? here? What should he do? here? What should he do? There's two ways to gain that leverage, There's two ways to gain that leverage, There's two ways to gain that leverage, right? One way of gaining that leverage right? One way of gaining that leverage right? One way of gaining that leverage is to create a peace outcome, a is to create a peace outcome, a is to create a peace outcome, a ceasefire outcome, an ongoing protective ceasefire outcome, an ongoing protective ceasefire outcome, an ongoing protective outcome where Iran is dependent on the outcome where Iran is dependent on the outcome where Iran is dependent on the United States to kind of protect them as United States to kind of protect them as United States to kind of protect them as they rebuild, protect them from Israel. they rebuild, protect them from Israel. they rebuild, protect them from Israel. Right? So that's what you're seeing as Right? So that's what you're seeing as Right? So that's what you're seeing as he tries to tell Netanyahu to back off he tries to tell Netanyahu to back off he tries to tell Netanyahu to back off even as Turkey and Pakistan and other even as Turkey and Pakistan and other even as Turkey and Pakistan and other countries tell Netanyahu, "Hey, don't countries tell Netanyahu, "Hey, don't countries tell Netanyahu, "Hey, don't attack Lebanon. Don't attack. don't attack Lebanon. Don't attack. don't attack Lebanon. Don't attack. don't attack Iran. Israel doesn't listen to attack Iran. Israel doesn't listen to attack Iran. Israel doesn't listen to them. But once Donald Trump and the them. But once Donald Trump and the them. But once Donald Trump and the United States step in now Netanyahu United States step in now Netanyahu United States step in now Netanyahu temporarily is kind of gagged, right? So temporarily is kind of gagged, right? So temporarily is kind of gagged, right? So that's demonstrating to Iran, hey, you that's demonstrating to Iran, hey, you that's demonstrating to Iran, hey, you want to negotiate with the United States want to negotiate with the United States want to negotiate with the United States because we can keep the dog on your because we can keep the dog on your because we can keep the dog on your doorstep out of your yard. That's one doorstep out of your yard. That's one doorstep out of your yard. That's one way of gaining leverage through peace. way of gaining leverage through peace. way of gaining leverage through peace. But Donald Trump has demonstrated But Donald Trump has demonstrated But Donald Trump has demonstrated multiple times that he likes to offer multiple times that he likes to offer multiple times that he likes to offer the white flag, but then in reality the white flag, but then in reality the white flag, but then in reality allow some sort of unannounced or allow some sort of unannounced or allow some sort of unannounced or unexpected attack to happen, something unexpected attack to happen, something unexpected attack to happen, something some stick that accompanies the carrot, some stick that accompanies the carrot, some stick that accompanies the carrot, right? Some secondary attack like what right? Some secondary attack like what right? Some secondary attack like what we saw with uh with the Maduro takedown. we saw with uh with the Maduro takedown. we saw with uh with the Maduro takedown. So what that means is that countries So what that means is that countries So what that means is that countries never know if they can actually trust never know if they can actually trust never know if they can actually trust the outstretched hand. So Iran has to the outstretched hand. So Iran has to the outstretched hand. So Iran has to play the game themselves where they play the game themselves where they play the game themselves where they somehow both accept the peace deal, somehow both accept the peace deal, somehow both accept the peace deal, accept the ceasefire, but also have to accept the ceasefire, but also have to accept the ceasefire, but also have to prepare for when that promise is prepare for when that promise is prepare for when that promise is violated because it's almost certainly violated because it's almost certainly violated because it's almost certainly guaranteed that it will be violated. guaranteed that it will be violated. guaranteed that it will be violated. We've been watching this with Donald We've been watching this with Donald We've been watching this with Donald Trump ever since Elon Musk ran the uh Trump ever since Elon Musk ran the uh Trump ever since Elon Musk ran the uh ran just I already lost it. The ran just I already lost it. The ran just I already lost it. The efficiency office Doge, right? Elon Musk efficiency office Doge, right? Elon Musk efficiency office Doge, right? Elon Musk and Donald Trump were close partners in and Donald Trump were close partners in and Donald Trump were close partners in the whole gaining efficiency of the whole gaining efficiency of the whole gaining efficiency of government employees and Doge cut all government employees and Doge cut all government employees and Doge cut all sorts of jobs and all sorts of expense sorts of jobs and all sorts of expense sorts of jobs and all sorts of expense out of the government and then if we out of the government and then if we out of the government and then if we recall right the two ended up fighting recall right the two ended up fighting recall right the two ended up fighting on Twitter publicly debating and arguing on Twitter publicly debating and arguing on Twitter publicly debating and arguing about everything and and Elon Musk about everything and and Elon Musk about everything and and Elon Musk didn't get the contracts he was probably didn't get the contracts he was probably didn't get the contracts he was probably expecting to get. But you could see expecting to get. But you could see expecting to get. But you could see Donald Trump doesn't really have Donald Trump doesn't really have Donald Trump doesn't really have loyalties. He has outcomes that he's loyalties. He has outcomes that he's loyalties. He has outcomes that he's aiming for that other people seem to not aiming for that other people seem to not aiming for that other people seem to not understand. [snorts] understand. [snorts] understand. [snorts] Okay. So, is this an eternal quagmire Okay. So, is this an eternal quagmire Okay. So, is this an eternal quagmire that we are stuck in for the foreseeable that we are stuck in for the foreseeable that we are stuck in for the foreseeable future? future? future? >> Absolutely. And that's I've been saying >> Absolutely. And that's I've been saying >> Absolutely. And that's I've been saying that since the beginning of the Iran that since the beginning of the Iran that since the beginning of the Iran conflict, there is no graceful exit for conflict, there is no graceful exit for conflict, there is no graceful exit for the United States from the Iran the United States from the Iran the United States from the Iran conflict. we can turn our back on it and conflict. we can turn our back on it and conflict. we can turn our back on it and we can let it do its own thing, which we can let it do its own thing, which we can let it do its own thing, which abandons our allies in the Middle East abandons our allies in the Middle East abandons our allies in the Middle East and gives Iran the credibility of being and gives Iran the credibility of being and gives Iran the credibility of being able to say, "Hey, look, Iranian people, able to say, "Hey, look, Iranian people, able to say, "Hey, look, Iranian people, everything we've ever told you about the everything we've ever told you about the everything we've ever told you about the Western devil is true." And despite Western devil is true." And despite Western devil is true." And despite their superior technology and their superior technology and their superior technology and outstanding information and their outstanding information and their outstanding information and their alliance with the great devil, Israel, alliance with the great devil, Israel, alliance with the great devil, Israel, we are still here. That radicalizes a we are still here. That radicalizes a we are still here. That radicalizes a whole another generation. A whole whole another generation. A whole whole another generation. A whole another generation. And then when you another generation. And then when you another generation. And then when you look at that paired with what Israel has look at that paired with what Israel has look at that paired with what Israel has done in Gaza, radicalize another done in Gaza, radicalize another done in Gaza, radicalize another generation of Hezbollah. You're talking generation of Hezbollah. You're talking generation of Hezbollah. You're talking about all we've done is is gift wrapped about all we've done is is gift wrapped about all we've done is is gift wrapped a whole another two lifetimes for our a whole another two lifetimes for our a whole another two lifetimes for our children and our children's children children and our children's children children and our children's children fighting this radical Islamic threat fighting this radical Islamic threat fighting this radical Islamic threat because Hezbollah is going to come back because Hezbollah is going to come back because Hezbollah is going to come back and the Iranian the radical Shia Islam and the Iranian the radical Shia Islam and the Iranian the radical Shia Islam is going to come back again and all is going to come back again and all is going to come back again and all we've done is cement make real their we've done is cement make real their we've done is cement make real their accusations for the last decades that we accusations for the last decades that we accusations for the last decades that we really are just out to undermine them, really are just out to undermine them, really are just out to undermine them, kill them, destroy them, hold them kill them, destroy them, hold them kill them, destroy them, hold them Okay. And also I think they have Israel Okay. And also I think they have Israel Okay. And also I think they have Israel has managed to radicalize an entire has managed to radicalize an entire has managed to radicalize an entire generation of people in the west as well generation of people in the west as well generation of people in the west as well which you see that animosity growing by which you see that animosity growing by which you see that animosity growing by the day the day the day >> uh mixed with a very healthy dose of >> uh mixed with a very healthy dose of >> uh mixed with a very healthy dose of what I'll consider conspiracy theory. what I'll consider conspiracy theory. what I'll consider conspiracy theory. But not everybody will agree that But not everybody will agree that But not everybody will agree that they're overstepping. But that seems uh they're overstepping. But that seems uh they're overstepping. But that seems uh pretty clear to me. But um when you put pretty clear to me. But um when you put pretty clear to me. But um when you put all of that together, is this just the all of that together, is this just the all of that together, is this just the obvious and predictable misstep of a obvious and predictable misstep of a obvious and predictable misstep of a declining empire? Like how do we make declining empire? Like how do we make declining empire? Like how do we make sense of this moment? And for anybody sense of this moment? And for anybody sense of this moment? And for anybody that's trying to step into the future, that's trying to step into the future, that's trying to step into the future, um even if just from a purely economic um even if just from a purely economic um even if just from a purely economic standpoint, how do you begin to predict standpoint, how do you begin to predict standpoint, how do you begin to predict what the future's going to look like? We what the future's going to look like? We what the future's going to look like? We live in a difficult time for prediction live in a difficult time for prediction live in a difficult time for prediction in large part because we are developing in large part because we are developing in large part because we are developing in multiple fronts at a pace and a in multiple fronts at a pace and a in multiple fronts at a pace and a volume faster than we've ever developed volume faster than we've ever developed volume faster than we've ever developed before. before. before. >> Develop what? >> Develop what? >> Develop what? >> Devel. So when we talk about uh one of >> Devel. So when we talk about uh one of >> Devel. So when we talk about uh one of the things that CIA tries to focus its the things that CIA tries to focus its the things that CIA tries to focus its officers to to understand is is speed officers to to understand is is speed officers to to understand is is speed and volume. Speed is the is the pace at and volume. Speed is the is the pace at and volume. Speed is the is the pace at which something moves forward. Volume is which something moves forward. Volume is which something moves forward. Volume is the mass at which something moves the mass at which something moves the mass at which something moves forward. In our history, if you go back forward. In our history, if you go back forward. In our history, if you go back to World War II, if you go back to the to World War II, if you go back to the to World War II, if you go back to the industrial revolution, if you even go industrial revolution, if you even go industrial revolution, if you even go back to the 1990s, right, under under back to the 1990s, right, under under back to the 1990s, right, under under President Clinton, President Clinton, President Clinton, pace and volume were slower and smaller. pace and volume were slower and smaller. pace and volume were slower and smaller. We didn't have tech breakthroughs as We didn't have tech breakthroughs as We didn't have tech breakthroughs as large as the tech breakthroughs are we large as the tech breakthroughs are we large as the tech breakthroughs are we have now, and we didn't develop those have now, and we didn't develop those have now, and we didn't develop those breakthroughs at the pace that we breakthroughs at the pace that we breakthroughs at the pace that we develop those breakthroughs now. develop those breakthroughs now. develop those breakthroughs now. >> So, the world has always been simpler >> So, the world has always been simpler >> So, the world has always been simpler than it is currently. than it is currently. than it is currently. On top of that lack of simplicity that On top of that lack of simplicity that On top of that lack of simplicity that we used to have that we now have we used to have that we now have we used to have that we now have complexity. On top of that, we also have complexity. On top of that, we also have complexity. On top of that, we also have this thing called systemic this thing called systemic this thing called systemic interdependence. interdependence. interdependence. Our systems are no longer able to Our systems are no longer able to Our systems are no longer able to survive on their own. They're survive on their own. They're survive on their own. They're interdependent with other systems. So AI interdependent with other systems. So AI interdependent with other systems. So AI is inherently bound to energy and they is inherently bound to energy and they is inherently bound to energy and they are both inherently bound to labor are both inherently bound to labor are both inherently bound to labor because you need human beings to still because you need human beings to still because you need human beings to still code part of code part of code part of AI development and you still need human AI development and you still need human AI development and you still need human beings to develop the foundation for the beings to develop the foundation for the beings to develop the foundation for the energy sector that's needed for the AI energy sector that's needed for the AI energy sector that's needed for the AI sector. So now in the past if any one of sector. So now in the past if any one of sector. So now in the past if any one of those three sectors failed the other two those three sectors failed the other two those three sectors failed the other two sectors would be insulated. But we live sectors would be insulated. But we live sectors would be insulated. But we live in a world now where if one of those in a world now where if one of those in a world now where if one of those three sectors fails the other two fail three sectors fails the other two fail three sectors fails the other two fail along with it which is why you see so along with it which is why you see so along with it which is why you see so many issues with the hiring freezes in many issues with the hiring freezes in many issues with the hiring freezes in big tech and the development of the big tech and the development of the big tech and the development of the advancement of our AI and the advancement of our AI and the advancement of our AI and the advancement of our energy sectors. So advancement of our energy sectors. So advancement of our energy sectors. So because we have this complex system that because we have this complex system that because we have this complex system that is systemically interdependent right is systemically interdependent right is systemically interdependent right now, it's very difficult for any of us now, it's very difficult for any of us now, it's very difficult for any of us to know what will happen in the future to know what will happen in the future to know what will happen in the future because we don't know what failure looks because we don't know what failure looks because we don't know what failure looks like anymore. We don't know what are the like anymore. We don't know what are the like anymore. We don't know what are the telltale signs of collapse right now. So telltale signs of collapse right now. So telltale signs of collapse right now. So when you look at it through that lens, when you look at it through that lens, when you look at it through that lens, we look very similar to the Soviet Union we look very similar to the Soviet Union we look very similar to the Soviet Union in 91 and the Ottoman Empire and the and in 91 and the Ottoman Empire and the and in 91 and the Ottoman Empire and the and the fall of Rome because they were all the fall of Rome because they were all the fall of Rome because they were all on the precipice of multiple advances in on the precipice of multiple advances in on the precipice of multiple advances in multiple fields before suddenly it all multiple fields before suddenly it all multiple fields before suddenly it all came crashing down. But that doesn't came crashing down. But that doesn't came crashing down. But that doesn't mean that that's what's going to happen mean that that's what's going to happen mean that that's what's going to happen to us. If there's anything I would say, to us. If there's anything I would say, to us. If there's anything I would say, I would say that we're living in a world I would say that we're living in a world I would say that we're living in a world now that that demonstrates that the now that that demonstrates that the now that that demonstrates that the primary messaging that we're receiving primary messaging that we're receiving primary messaging that we're receiving is inaccurate and it's in intentionally is inaccurate and it's in intentionally is inaccurate and it's in intentionally inaccurate, which is something that inaccurate, which is something that inaccurate, which is something that we've never been able to see so clearly we've never been able to see so clearly we've never been able to see so clearly in the past in large part because of the in the past in large part because of the in the past in large part because of the pace and volume of development, of pace and volume of development, of pace and volume of development, of technology, of education, of access to technology, of education, of access to technology, of education, of access to information. We're able to see now that information. We're able to see now that information. We're able to see now that we're being lied to within hours, we're being lied to within hours, we're being lied to within hours, whereas in the past it might have taken whereas in the past it might have taken whereas in the past it might have taken weeks. weeks. weeks. >> Okay. So, um that's terrifying to >> Okay. So, um that's terrifying to >> Okay. So, um that's terrifying to anybody that's old enough to understand anybody that's old enough to understand anybody that's old enough to understand the weight of you saying that we're like the weight of you saying that we're like the weight of you saying that we're like the Soviet Empire in ' 91. the Soviet Empire in ' 91. the Soviet Empire in ' 91. >> Uh that's pretty wild. That is the >> Uh that's pretty wild. That is the >> Uh that's pretty wild. That is the precipice of complete and total precipice of complete and total precipice of complete and total collapse. Um, I do think from an collapse. Um, I do think from an collapse. Um, I do think from an economic standpoint, we're on a 10-year economic standpoint, we're on a 10-year economic standpoint, we're on a 10-year clock, probably closer to nine years clock, probably closer to nine years clock, probably closer to nine years now, in terms of our debt ratcheting up now, in terms of our debt ratcheting up now, in terms of our debt ratcheting up and it just becomes literally fiscally and it just becomes literally fiscally and it just becomes literally fiscally impossible because you will have to impossible because you will have to impossible because you will have to inflate the money supply so aggressively inflate the money supply so aggressively inflate the money supply so aggressively to get your 39 trillion down to to get your 39 trillion down to to get your 39 trillion down to something manageable. That that alone something manageable. That that alone something manageable. That that alone will be insane. So all of that forces me will be insane. So all of that forces me will be insane. So all of that forces me to ask a question that is is am I to ask a question that is is am I to ask a question that is is am I looking at the real show when I look at looking at the real show when I look at looking at the real show when I look at Donald Trump Netanyahu versus the IRGC Donald Trump Netanyahu versus the IRGC Donald Trump Netanyahu versus the IRGC or is that sort of the puppet layer of or is that sort of the puppet layer of or is that sort of the puppet layer of the show and there's really a higher the show and there's really a higher the show and there's really a higher level of call it international money and level of call it international money and level of call it international money and um the globalists who were like all um the globalists who were like all um the globalists who were like all right cool America's had its moment and right cool America's had its moment and right cool America's had its moment and now we're going to begin essentially now we're going to begin essentially now we're going to begin essentially migrating our financial assets to migrating our financial assets to migrating our financial assets to whatever the next play is going to be. whatever the next play is going to be. whatever the next play is going to be. Whether that's China, whether that's Whether that's China, whether that's Whether that's China, whether that's just no longer in any one place. It's just no longer in any one place. It's just no longer in any one place. It's going to be, you know, something that's going to be, you know, something that's going to be, you know, something that's spread out across the globe. I'm going spread out across the globe. I'm going spread out across the globe. I'm going to answer this with a little bit of a to answer this with a little bit of a to answer this with a little bit of a like a story, right? Because I I've like a story, right? Because I I've like a story, right? Because I I've always thought that I was intelligent. always thought that I was intelligent. always thought that I was intelligent. I've never thought that I was the I've never thought that I was the I've never thought that I was the smartest guy in the room. I don't think smartest guy in the room. I don't think smartest guy in the room. I don't think I'm the most intelligent person, but I'm the most intelligent person, but I'm the most intelligent person, but I've never thought of myself as dumb. I've never thought of myself as dumb. I've never thought of myself as dumb. And there are these humbling moments, And there are these humbling moments, And there are these humbling moments, especially in the last three or five especially in the last three or five especially in the last three or five years, where I realize how completely years, where I realize how completely years, where I realize how completely ignorant I was about something that's ignorant I was about something that's ignorant I was about something that's been around for a long time. And most of been around for a long time. And most of been around for a long time. And most of those lessons surround themselves are those lessons surround themselves are those lessons surround themselves are are based on the idea of wealth. And I are based on the idea of wealth. And I are based on the idea of wealth. And I didn't I didn't come from a wealthy didn't I didn't come from a wealthy didn't I didn't come from a wealthy family. I'm not a wealthy individual family. I'm not a wealthy individual family. I'm not a wealthy individual now, but I I am the first millionaire in now, but I I am the first millionaire in now, but I I am the first millionaire in my family. my family. my family. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Which is very exciting. And also >> Which is very exciting. And also >> Which is very exciting. And also shocking if you're a millionaire and shocking if you're a millionaire and shocking if you're a millionaire and don't consider yourself wealthy. That's don't consider yourself wealthy. That's don't consider yourself wealthy. That's [laughter] wild. Uh [laughter] wild. Uh [laughter] wild. Uh >> okay. >> okay. >> okay. >> But uh but the people that the people >> But uh but the people that the people >> But uh but the people that the people that I have to surround myself with now that I have to surround myself with now that I have to surround myself with now financially financially financially know so much more than I ever even know so much more than I ever even know so much more than I ever even realized existed, right? how realized existed, right? how realized existed, right? how millionaires protect their wealth, how millionaires protect their wealth, how millionaires protect their wealth, how they grow their wealth, how they uh they grow their wealth, how they uh they grow their wealth, how they uh invest in ways that don't hide from invest in ways that don't hide from invest in ways that don't hide from taxes, but are incentivized by having taxes, but are incentivized by having taxes, but are incentivized by having reduced taxes. And I didn't know any of reduced taxes. And I didn't know any of reduced taxes. And I didn't know any of this even existed, right? this even existed, right? this even existed, right? So I say that because what I'm realizing So I say that because what I'm realizing So I say that because what I'm realizing now is that the global monetary market, now is that the global monetary market, now is that the global monetary market, wealthy people, the wealthier they get, wealthy people, the wealthier they get, wealthy people, the wealthier they get, they seem to decouple themselves from they seem to decouple themselves from they seem to decouple themselves from things like national identity and uh and things like national identity and uh and things like national identity and uh and ethnic identity and religious zealatry ethnic identity and religious zealatry ethnic identity and religious zealatry because they realize that if they're because they realize that if they're because they realize that if they're going to truly protect the asset that going to truly protect the asset that going to truly protect the asset that they've built, they have to constantly they've built, they have to constantly they've built, they have to constantly diversify. and that their diversify. and that their diversify. and that their diversification is tied to empirical diversification is tied to empirical diversification is tied to empirical evidence, not ideological promises. So, evidence, not ideological promises. So, evidence, not ideological promises. So, I say that because I was recently having I say that because I was recently having I say that because I was recently having a conversation with my own investment a conversation with my own investment a conversation with my own investment banker. And my investment banker was banker. And my investment banker was banker. And my investment banker was saying, "Hey, this is what we're going saying, "Hey, this is what we're going saying, "Hey, this is what we're going to do. This is what I recommend we do to do. This is what I recommend we do to do. This is what I recommend we do with your portfolio. We put 30% of it with your portfolio. We put 30% of it with your portfolio. We put 30% of it into China." into China." into China." And I was like, "Dude, you realize I was And I was like, "Dude, you realize I was And I was like, "Dude, you realize I was almost a prisoner in China." And he was almost a prisoner in China." And he was almost a prisoner in China." And he was like, "Yeah, I read your book, but like like, "Yeah, I read your book, but like like, "Yeah, I read your book, but like all the numbers show that the Asian all the numbers show that the Asian all the numbers show that the Asian market is is strong, stronger, growing market is is strong, stronger, growing market is is strong, stronger, growing faster than the United States market." faster than the United States market." faster than the United States market." And that's what I would recommend we do. And that's what I would recommend we do. And that's what I would recommend we do. We diversify you in that direction. Not We diversify you in that direction. Not We diversify you in that direction. Not too much and not in anything that we too much and not in anything that we too much and not in anything that we can't pull out very quickly. And there's can't pull out very quickly. And there's can't pull out very quickly. And there's all sorts of other tricks in the all sorts of other tricks in the all sorts of other tricks in the financial market about harvesting losses financial market about harvesting losses financial market about harvesting losses and all this other stuff. And and all this other stuff. And and all this other stuff. And >> and I was just but I was stunned because >> and I was just but I was stunned because >> and I was just but I was stunned because I couldn't say no to that. I couldn't say no to that. I couldn't say no to that. I have every ideological reason to say I have every ideological reason to say I have every ideological reason to say [ __ ] the Chinese. I have every personal [ __ ] the Chinese. I have every personal [ __ ] the Chinese. I have every personal patriotic reason to say I'm not going to patriotic reason to say I'm not going to patriotic reason to say I'm not going to do anything that's going to boost the do anything that's going to boost the do anything that's going to boost the Chinese economy. But when it comes to Chinese economy. But when it comes to Chinese economy. But when it comes to the bottom line of ensuring a legacy for the bottom line of ensuring a legacy for the bottom line of ensuring a legacy for my children, my children's children, and my children, my children's children, and my children, my children's children, and the opportunity that maybe part of that the opportunity that maybe part of that the opportunity that maybe part of that legacy is built on the back of temporary legacy is built on the back of temporary legacy is built on the back of temporary Chinese growth. Chinese growth. Chinese growth. Like I say all of that because I think Like I say all of that because I think Like I say all of that because I think we have to we have to separate. I'm we have to we have to separate. I'm we have to we have to separate. I'm learning that we have to separate the learning that we have to separate the learning that we have to separate the puppet show of politics from the puppet show of politics from the puppet show of politics from the financial reality that is d that is financial reality that is d that is financial reality that is d that is based in objective and empirical based in objective and empirical based in objective and empirical evidence because the one only sometimes evidence because the one only sometimes evidence because the one only sometimes is aligned with the other. And the is aligned with the other. And the is aligned with the other. And the challenge that politicians have is that challenge that politicians have is that challenge that politicians have is that they have to find a way to get people to they have to find a way to get people to they have to find a way to get people to take certain financial actions based off take certain financial actions based off take certain financial actions based off of promises that may or may never be of promises that may or may never be of promises that may or may never be delivered. Meanwhile, the wealthiest delivered. Meanwhile, the wealthiest delivered. Meanwhile, the wealthiest people out there at most will only people out there at most will only people out there at most will only partially invest in the promises to partially invest in the promises to partially invest in the promises to diversify against something else. And diversify against something else. And diversify against something else. And that's what I would say in response to that's what I would say in response to that's what I would say in response to what are we actually seeing? What we're what are we actually seeing? What we're what are we actually seeing? What we're seeing is Donald Trump has to radicalize seeing is Donald Trump has to radicalize seeing is Donald Trump has to radicalize a base of people that are not always a base of people that are not always a base of people that are not always super wealthy while recognizing that the super wealthy while recognizing that the super wealthy while recognizing that the superw wealthy supporters he has really superw wealthy supporters he has really superw wealthy supporters he has really only need one thing to happen for them only need one thing to happen for them only need one thing to happen for them to continue supporting him. They need to continue supporting him. They need to continue supporting him. They need the stock market to go up and their the stock market to go up and their the stock market to go up and their investments to grow. And in all of this investments to grow. And in all of this investments to grow. And in all of this chaos, guess what's happened? Since chaos, guess what's happened? Since chaos, guess what's happened? Since April, the stock market has grown. With April, the stock market has grown. With April, the stock market has grown. With a failed embarrassment in Iran, the a failed embarrassment in Iran, the a failed embarrassment in Iran, the stock market has grown. The energy index stock market has grown. The energy index stock market has grown. The energy index is healthy and going up. Gold has gone is healthy and going up. Gold has gone is healthy and going up. Gold has gone down as a as a reserve currency, but down as a as a reserve currency, but down as a as a reserve currency, but gold as a asset that's being held in gold as a asset that's being held in gold as a asset that's being held in international banks has gone up. So international banks has gone up. So international banks has gone up. So wealthy people aren't losing, especially wealthy people aren't losing, especially wealthy people aren't losing, especially not wealthy people who are properly not wealthy people who are properly not wealthy people who are properly diversified. So there's two very diversified. So there's two very diversified. So there's two very different. different. different. It's like a magic. It's like a magic It's like a magic. It's like a magic It's like a magic. It's like a magic trick, right? There's a hat. There's a trick, right? There's a hat. There's a trick, right? There's a hat. 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And now, let's get back to the show. >> The bad news is I think a lot of the >> The bad news is I think a lot of the >> The bad news is I think a lot of the stuff that people think is behind the stuff that people think is behind the stuff that people think is behind the curtain is not as behind the curtain as curtain is not as behind the curtain as curtain is not as behind the curtain as they think. they think. they think. >> Um, do you know who Simon Dixon is? >> Um, do you know who Simon Dixon is? >> Um, do you know who Simon Dixon is? >> I've heard the name, but I don't know >> I've heard the name, but I don't know >> I've heard the name, but I don't know why. why. why. >> Enjoy that rabbit hole. So, um, he's got >> Enjoy that rabbit hole. So, um, he's got >> Enjoy that rabbit hole. So, um, he's got a really fascinating hypothesis. a really fascinating hypothesis. a really fascinating hypothesis. Um, I'm not yet sure how much of it's Um, I'm not yet sure how much of it's Um, I'm not yet sure how much of it's true, but I think it's somebody who can true, but I think it's somebody who can true, but I think it's somebody who can feel, uh, an object inside of a black feel, uh, an object inside of a black feel, uh, an object inside of a black bag. And so, he's got a pretty good bag. And so, he's got a pretty good bag. And so, he's got a pretty good sense of how hard it is, how big it is. sense of how hard it is, how big it is. sense of how hard it is, how big it is. Um, and so he talks about this idea of Um, and so he talks about this idea of Um, and so he talks about this idea of the mick, fick, and tick. Yes, the mick, the mick, fick, and tick. Yes, the mick, the mick, fick, and tick. Yes, the mick, fick, and tick. So, military-industrial fick, and tick. So, military-industrial fick, and tick. So, military-industrial complex, financial industrial complex, complex, financial industrial complex, complex, financial industrial complex, and technological industrial complex. and technological industrial complex. and technological industrial complex. and he talks about this being like this and he talks about this being like this and he talks about this being like this sort of supra thing that sits over sort of supra thing that sits over sort of supra thing that sits over everything else and they're these are everything else and they're these are everything else and they're these are very much my words and so he may not very much my words and so he may not very much my words and so he may not recognize my full um explanation of his recognize my full um explanation of his recognize my full um explanation of his own thing so people should definitely go own thing so people should definitely go own thing so people should definitely go check him out. I did an interview with check him out. I did an interview with check him out. I did an interview with him which you can see here I'll I'll him which you can see here I'll I'll him which you can see here I'll I'll point up. [laughter] Uh so the idea point up. [laughter] Uh so the idea point up. [laughter] Uh so the idea being that they basically people do not being that they basically people do not being that they basically people do not understand how financialized the world understand how financialized the world understand how financialized the world is. people really don't understand how is. people really don't understand how is. people really don't understand how financialized London and New York are financialized London and New York are financialized London and New York are once you begin to really understand that once you begin to really understand that once you begin to really understand that uh to your point this is global money uh to your point this is global money uh to your point this is global money that's just going to the money is going that's just going to the money is going that's just going to the money is going to go wherever it's going to be treated to go wherever it's going to be treated to go wherever it's going to be treated best best best >> and they essentially move like a locust >> and they essentially move like a locust >> and they essentially move like a locust from one empire to the next draining you from one empire to the next draining you from one empire to the next draining you know everything they can of its know everything they can of its know everything they can of its resources and as a country this really resources and as a country this really resources and as a country this really is heavy Simon Dixon here as a country is heavy Simon Dixon here as a country is heavy Simon Dixon here as a country gets to the end of its empire stage, you gets to the end of its empire stage, you gets to the end of its empire stage, you get into like this hyper kleptocratic get into like this hyper kleptocratic get into like this hyper kleptocratic just strip everything that you can just strip everything that you can just strip everything that you can because you know you're about to move on because you know you're about to move on because you know you're about to move on to the next one. Now, I'm not entirely to the next one. Now, I'm not entirely to the next one. Now, I'm not entirely sure that it that it would be possible sure that it that it would be possible sure that it that it would be possible to coordinate at that level. There are to coordinate at that level. There are to coordinate at that level. There are just too many variables that can go just too many variables that can go just too many variables that can go wrong like what's happening in Iran, wrong like what's happening in Iran, wrong like what's happening in Iran, like even thinking that you can control like even thinking that you can control like even thinking that you can control Trump even if you're one of his mega Trump even if you're one of his mega Trump even if you're one of his mega donors. There's just too many variables, donors. There's just too many variables, donors. There's just too many variables, too many things that could go wrong. But too many things that could go wrong. But too many things that could go wrong. But you certainly get closer to what's you certainly get closer to what's you certainly get closer to what's actually happening when you understand actually happening when you understand actually happening when you understand how easily a hyper financialized market how easily a hyper financialized market how easily a hyper financialized market is to manipulate that you can manipulate is to manipulate that you can manipulate is to manipulate that you can manipulate the price up or down with a single the price up or down with a single the price up or down with a single tweet. Uh that you know I mean if the tweet. Uh that you know I mean if the tweet. Uh that you know I mean if the numbers can be believed Trump has made numbers can be believed Trump has made numbers can be believed Trump has made billions of dollars since he's been in billions of dollars since he's been in billions of dollars since he's been in office because he knows office because he knows office because he knows >> a little faster than everybody else when >> a little faster than everybody else when >> a little faster than everybody else when something is about to happen. He's just something is about to happen. He's just something is about to happen. He's just trading like a fiend. And so that kind trading like a fiend. And so that kind trading like a fiend. And so that kind of stuff really I think begins to reveal of stuff really I think begins to reveal of stuff really I think begins to reveal the game. And the game is you will not the game. And the game is you will not the game. And the game is you will not win in this environment if you do not win in this environment if you do not win in this environment if you do not own assets. Now I hear people call it own assets. Now I hear people call it own assets. Now I hear people call it latestage capitalism all the time. That latestage capitalism all the time. That latestage capitalism all the time. That [ __ ] drives me crazy because it it [ __ ] drives me crazy because it it [ __ ] drives me crazy because it it isn't. Capitalism is not your problem. isn't. Capitalism is not your problem. isn't. Capitalism is not your problem. Capitalism is the thing that will save Capitalism is the thing that will save Capitalism is the thing that will save you. We do not have a capitalist system. you. We do not have a capitalist system. you. We do not have a capitalist system. Capitalism is bad. It does bad things. Capitalism is bad. It does bad things. Capitalism is bad. It does bad things. It's just way better than everything It's just way better than everything It's just way better than everything else. Far less murderous. Uh so this is else. Far less murderous. Uh so this is else. Far less murderous. Uh so this is not me saying that capitalism is not me saying that capitalism is not me saying that capitalism is flawless. It is just by far the best flawless. It is just by far the best flawless. It is just by far the best system we've seen for pulling people out system we've seen for pulling people out system we've seen for pulling people out of poverty. All right, setting that of poverty. All right, setting that of poverty. All right, setting that aside for a second. The system that you aside for a second. The system that you aside for a second. The system that you actually have is not that. The system actually have is not that. The system actually have is not that. The system that you actually have is a layer of that you actually have is a layer of that you actually have is a layer of people who are incredibly savvy with all people who are incredibly savvy with all people who are incredibly savvy with all the financial instruments and they the financial instruments and they the financial instruments and they understand how to, like you're saying, understand how to, like you're saying, understand how to, like you're saying, you go into the different places where you go into the different places where you go into the different places where there's something happening. A really there's something happening. A really there's something happening. A really easy example for people is the yen carry easy example for people is the yen carry easy example for people is the yen carry trade. Now, as I have learned more and trade. Now, as I have learned more and trade. Now, as I have learned more and more about Japan's actual history post more about Japan's actual history post more about Japan's actual history post World War II, it is utterly fascinating. World War II, it is utterly fascinating. World War II, it is utterly fascinating. It is one of manipulating a culture to It is one of manipulating a culture to It is one of manipulating a culture to tremendous economic effect only to have tremendous economic effect only to have tremendous economic effect only to have that because it was the US manipulating that because it was the US manipulating that because it was the US manipulating their culture. They then start taking their culture. They then start taking their culture. They then start taking off economically because we did a little off economically because we did a little off economically because we did a little too good of a job of teaching them how too good of a job of teaching them how too good of a job of teaching them how to be extraordinary at it. Uh we end up to be extraordinary at it. Uh we end up to be extraordinary at it. Uh we end up doing the same thing with China, which doing the same thing with China, which doing the same thing with China, which we'll get to in a second. But so you we'll get to in a second. But so you we'll get to in a second. But so you teach Japan all these incredible tricks teach Japan all these incredible tricks teach Japan all these incredible tricks to help them grow back out of World War to help them grow back out of World War to help them grow back out of World War II because you need them as a bull work II because you need them as a bull work II because you need them as a bull work against what was at the time Mao against what was at the time Mao against what was at the time Mao controlled China. So they're as red as controlled China. So they're as red as controlled China. So they're as red as you can get, as communist as you can you can get, as communist as you can you can get, as communist as you can get, as aligned with Russia, which was get, as aligned with Russia, which was get, as aligned with Russia, which was our big threat as you can get. So it's our big threat as you can get. So it's our big threat as you can get. So it's like, cool, we need these guys to be like, cool, we need these guys to be like, cool, we need these guys to be capitalists. We need them to be capitalists. We need them to be capitalists. We need them to be democratic. More or less took to the democratic. More or less took to the democratic. More or less took to the democratic part, but definitely took to democratic part, but definitely took to democratic part, but definitely took to the capitalist part. They go shooting the capitalist part. They go shooting the capitalist part. They go shooting off like a rocket. In the 80s, we off like a rocket. In the 80s, we off like a rocket. In the 80s, we realize, uh oh, like at one point they realize, uh oh, like at one point they realize, uh oh, like at one point they had something like half the world's had something like half the world's had something like half the world's wealth. It's it's a figure so staggering wealth. It's it's a figure so staggering wealth. It's it's a figure so staggering that every time I encounter it, I'm that every time I encounter it, I'm that every time I encounter it, I'm like, I must be misremembering this. like, I must be misremembering this. like, I must be misremembering this. It's just absolutely insane. And so we It's just absolutely insane. And so we It's just absolutely insane. And so we go, well, we can't have that anymore. We go, well, we can't have that anymore. We go, well, we can't have that anymore. We start doing protectionist stuff and we start doing protectionist stuff and we start doing protectionist stuff and we sort of backwater them. But they end up sort of backwater them. But they end up sort of backwater them. But they end up the Bank of Japan through the very the Bank of Japan through the very the Bank of Japan through the very unique culture that they have, they end unique culture that they have, they end unique culture that they have, they end up being this place that literally after up being this place that literally after up being this place that literally after the bubble bursts in '89, they can't the bubble bursts in '89, they can't the bubble bursts in '89, they can't can't get inflation to start. So like no can't get inflation to start. So like no can't get inflation to start. So like no matter how much cheap money they try to matter how much cheap money they try to matter how much cheap money they try to flood the market with, people just won't flood the market with, people just won't flood the market with, people just won't spend it. spend it. spend it. >> They're so traumatized by the bubble >> They're so traumatized by the bubble >> They're so traumatized by the bubble bursting that they just save save save. bursting that they just save save save. bursting that they just save save save. And they have this like we're all in it And they have this like we're all in it And they have this like we're all in it together mentality. And so they just together mentality. And so they just together mentality. And so they just start making money as cheap as you can. start making money as cheap as you can. start making money as cheap as you can. So the rest of the world goes, "Oh, I So the rest of the world goes, "Oh, I So the rest of the world goes, "Oh, I get what we do here." They go to Japan, get what we do here." They go to Japan, get what we do here." They go to Japan, start borrowing money like crazy because start borrowing money like crazy because start borrowing money like crazy because they can get it effectively at zero they can get it effectively at zero they can get it effectively at zero interest. Buy into the US stock market. interest. Buy into the US stock market. interest. Buy into the US stock market. The US stock market is everything for The US stock market is everything for The US stock market is everything for the reasons that you just laid out. All the reasons that you just laid out. All the reasons that you just laid out. All the big donors and all of them need the the big donors and all of them need the the big donors and all of them need the stock market to keep going. It also stock market to keep going. It also stock market to keep going. It also fuels our economy. So even the average fuels our economy. So even the average fuels our economy. So even the average worker who's not invested in the stock worker who's not invested in the stock worker who's not invested in the stock market needs the stock market to keep market needs the stock market to keep market needs the stock market to keep going. And so taking money from the Bank going. And so taking money from the Bank going. And so taking money from the Bank of Japan at effectively zero interest of Japan at effectively zero interest of Japan at effectively zero interest rates, pouring it into the US stock rates, pouring it into the US stock rates, pouring it into the US stock market largely into the tax sector, it market largely into the tax sector, it market largely into the tax sector, it just goes absolutely parabolic and you just goes absolutely parabolic and you just goes absolutely parabolic and you realize, oh cool, if you don't realize, oh cool, if you don't realize, oh cool, if you don't understand something like the yen carry understand something like the yen carry understand something like the yen carry trade, like if right now you are trade, like if right now you are trade, like if right now you are thinking about clicking off of this thinking about clicking off of this thinking about clicking off of this video because you're everything I'm video because you're everything I'm video because you're everything I'm saying is like some big mystery to you, saying is like some big mystery to you, saying is like some big mystery to you, then that's why you're going to get then that's why you're going to get then that's why you're going to get gobbled up by the current system. It is gobbled up by the current system. It is gobbled up by the current system. It is latestage something, latestage latestage something, latestage latestage something, latestage financialization, financialization, financialization, latestage mathematical abstraction, latestage mathematical abstraction, latestage mathematical abstraction, latestage gambling, like all of those latestage gambling, like all of those latestage gambling, like all of those would make sense to me. Latestage would make sense to me. Latestage would make sense to me. Latestage capitalism does not make sense. It it is capitalism does not make sense. It it is capitalism does not make sense. It it is the layer of people betting on those the layer of people betting on those the layer of people betting on those things of using financial instruments. things of using financial instruments. things of using financial instruments. Like most people don't even understand Like most people don't even understand Like most people don't even understand uh how a central bank works or why it is uh how a central bank works or why it is uh how a central bank works or why it is the single most evil thing on planet the single most evil thing on planet the single most evil thing on planet earth. All of that to them is just earth. All of that to them is just earth. All of that to them is just completely confusing. And that is now completely confusing. And that is now completely confusing. And that is now we've sort of long ago I think Simon we've sort of long ago I think Simon we've sort of long ago I think Simon Dixon would agree with most of the Dixon would agree with most of the Dixon would agree with most of the things I just said, but we're now deeply things I just said, but we're now deeply things I just said, but we're now deeply in my worldview of that is the game. in my worldview of that is the game. in my worldview of that is the game. That's the game of manipulation. So when That's the game of manipulation. So when That's the game of manipulation. So when I'm watching Trump and Iran, I'm like, I'm watching Trump and Iran, I'm like, I'm watching Trump and Iran, I'm like, "Okay, how does this make sense at the "Okay, how does this make sense at the "Okay, how does this make sense at the level of the people who understand the level of the people who understand the level of the people who understand the financial world, what are they financial world, what are they financial world, what are they thinking?" Now, the really bad news is I thinking?" Now, the really bad news is I thinking?" Now, the really bad news is I think they think he's a buffoon. think they think he's a buffoon. think they think he's a buffoon. >> And I think they go, >> And I think they go, >> And I think they go, >> "Nice try. Shame about the execution." >> "Nice try. Shame about the execution." >> "Nice try. Shame about the execution." And I think this was all about getting And I think this was all about getting And I think this was all about getting the dollars that the GCC had done the the dollars that the GCC had done the the dollars that the GCC had done the most phenomenal job of transitioning off most phenomenal job of transitioning off most phenomenal job of transitioning off of oil into investments largely into of oil into investments largely into of oil into investments largely into technology. technology. technology. >> And now all of a sudden Trump in maybe >> And now all of a sudden Trump in maybe >> And now all of a sudden Trump in maybe trying to secure that money has just trying to secure that money has just trying to secure that money has just completely [ __ ] it up. completely [ __ ] it up. completely [ __ ] it up. >> Uh I am so aware that the words I'm >> Uh I am so aware that the words I'm >> Uh I am so aware that the words I'm about to say are never going to come out about to say are never going to come out about to say are never going to come out the way that I think they will. So, I the way that I think they will. So, I the way that I think they will. So, I know that. So, people don't need to know that. So, people don't need to know that. So, people don't need to waste time clipping this in six months waste time clipping this in six months waste time clipping this in six months and saying, "See, I told you so." I will and saying, "See, I told you so." I will and saying, "See, I told you so." I will simply update my thinking. But as of simply update my thinking. But as of simply update my thinking. But as of right now, today, the way that this right now, today, the way that this right now, today, the way that this looks like it's going to play out is looks like it's going to play out is looks like it's going to play out is you've got Iran going, "Okay, cool. Uh, you've got Iran going, "Okay, cool. Uh, you've got Iran going, "Okay, cool. Uh, these dumb asses have had to learn yet these dumb asses have had to learn yet these dumb asses have had to learn yet again, if you're not willing to do total again, if you're not willing to do total again, if you're not willing to do total war, then the little guy can [ __ ] you up war, then the little guy can [ __ ] you up war, then the little guy can [ __ ] you up forever. forever. forever. >> We're now going to charge a toll on the >> We're now going to charge a toll on the >> We're now going to charge a toll on the straight of Hormuz. We'll push all the straight of Hormuz. We'll push all the straight of Hormuz. We'll push all the way to Oman. They might end up having way to Oman. They might end up having way to Oman. They might end up having beef with Oman who wants to like control beef with Oman who wants to like control beef with Oman who wants to like control their half, but maybe they work their half, but maybe they work their half, but maybe they work something out, but they're going to something out, but they're going to something out, but they're going to clamp down on that waterway. The Houthis clamp down on that waterway. The Houthis clamp down on that waterway. The Houthis have already said they're going to clamp have already said they're going to clamp have already said they're going to clamp down on the Red Sea. And so now you've down on the Red Sea. And so now you've down on the Red Sea. And so now you've got two waterways that are being clamped got two waterways that are being clamped got two waterways that are being clamped down on. I don't think people go quietly down on. I don't think people go quietly down on. I don't think people go quietly into that good night. I think the global into that good night. I think the global into that good night. I think the global uh community goes hold the [ __ ] uh community goes hold the [ __ ] uh community goes hold the [ __ ] phone. The one thing you can't do is phone. The one thing you can't do is phone. The one thing you can't do is something that messes with energy. to something that messes with energy. to something that messes with energy. to your earlier point about we're all tied your earlier point about we're all tied your earlier point about we're all tied to energy. And so it it creates this to energy. And so it it creates this to energy. And so it it creates this level of destabilization that is this level of destabilization that is this level of destabilization that is this insane knock-on from what is almost insane knock-on from what is almost insane knock-on from what is almost certainly latestage financialization certainly latestage financialization certainly latestage financialization debt problems on behalf of the US that debt problems on behalf of the US that debt problems on behalf of the US that created populism that created a demon created populism that created a demon created populism that created a demon summoning circle which we we will pull summoning circle which we we will pull summoning circle which we we will pull forth a right-leaning demon in the form forth a right-leaning demon in the form forth a right-leaning demon in the form of Trump but we'll also pull forth a of Trump but we'll also pull forth a of Trump but we'll also pull forth a leftleing leaning demon in the form of leftleing leaning demon in the form of leftleing leaning demon in the form of Bernie or mom Donnie. And so it's like Bernie or mom Donnie. And so it's like Bernie or mom Donnie. And so it's like pick your flavor of demon. But they're pick your flavor of demon. But they're pick your flavor of demon. But they're both results of what I'm for at least both results of what I'm for at least both results of what I'm for at least this interview calling latestage this interview calling latestage this interview calling latestage financialization. And so you've got that financialization. And so you've got that financialization. And so you've got that madness which is sort of being madness which is sort of being madness which is sort of being controlled by the public strings, but controlled by the public strings, but controlled by the public strings, but >> only in as much as you have hyper >> only in as much as you have hyper >> only in as much as you have hyper sophisticated people like Larry Frink at sophisticated people like Larry Frink at sophisticated people like Larry Frink at Black Rockck or the guys that run Jane Black Rockck or the guys that run Jane Black Rockck or the guys that run Jane Street who know how to [ __ ] Street who know how to [ __ ] Street who know how to [ __ ] manipulate these markets and make manipulate these markets and make manipulate these markets and make unimaginable amounts of money off of unimaginable amounts of money off of unimaginable amounts of money off of this stuff. And I think that Trump just this stuff. And I think that Trump just this stuff. And I think that Trump just somehow became the fly in the ointment. somehow became the fly in the ointment. somehow became the fly in the ointment. I mean, we'll see. I'm sure they also I mean, we'll see. I'm sure they also I mean, we'll see. I'm sure they also have their plans where it's like, "All have their plans where it's like, "All have their plans where it's like, "All right, if we get Trump into office and right, if we get Trump into office and right, if we get Trump into office and he does something dumb, what how do we he does something dumb, what how do we he does something dumb, what how do we make uh lemonade out of those lemons?" make uh lemonade out of those lemons?" make uh lemonade out of those lemons?" But oo buddy, like none of this feels But oo buddy, like none of this feels But oo buddy, like none of this feels like anybody could possibly be going, like anybody could possibly be going, like anybody could possibly be going, "Yeah, this is exactly what I hoped "Yeah, this is exactly what I hoped "Yeah, this is exactly what I hoped would happen." would happen." would happen." >> I agree with that. I agree. and and I >> I agree with that. I agree. and and I >> I agree with that. I agree. and and I that was such a strong that was such a strong that was such a strong and extended case, but one that was and extended case, but one that was and extended case, but one that was relevant and powerful for where we stand relevant and powerful for where we stand relevant and powerful for where we stand today. Because essentially what we're today. Because essentially what we're today. Because essentially what we're saying is there there is a reality that saying is there there is a reality that saying is there there is a reality that has been there that is coming to four has been there that is coming to four has been there that is coming to four that people are starting to realize and that people are starting to realize and that people are starting to realize and it's not an encouraging reality. Whether it's not an encouraging reality. Whether it's not an encouraging reality. Whether it's the reality that the American it's the reality that the American it's the reality that the American president that was reelected president that was reelected president that was reelected by the by the American people is a by the by the American people is a by the by the American people is a buffoon. whether that's the reality buffoon. whether that's the reality buffoon. whether that's the reality that's coming to for a reality that many that's coming to for a reality that many that's coming to for a reality that many people thought to be true other people people thought to be true other people people thought to be true other people thought couldn't possibly be true and I thought couldn't possibly be true and I thought couldn't possibly be true and I believe that what we will see in believe that what we will see in believe that what we will see in November is a huge what I call a blue November is a huge what I call a blue November is a huge what I call a blue slap where people will vote blue not slap where people will vote blue not slap where people will vote blue not because they believe in blue but just because they believe in blue but just because they believe in blue but just because they want to put a cap on what because they want to put a cap on what because they want to put a cap on what the president can do by controlling both the president can do by controlling both the president can do by controlling both the Senate and the House the Senate and the House the Senate and the House >> because they've come to the conclusion >> because they've come to the conclusion >> because they've come to the conclusion that the president isn't working in the that the president isn't working in the that the president isn't working in the best interest of the United best interest of the United best interest of the United maybe doesn't know how to run a country maybe doesn't know how to run a country maybe doesn't know how to run a country and maybe is in fact out for his own and maybe is in fact out for his own and maybe is in fact out for his own legacy more so than legacy more so than legacy more so than the American dream, the American the American dream, the American the American dream, the American promise, the American ideals, if there promise, the American ideals, if there promise, the American ideals, if there are still Americans who even believe in are still Americans who even believe in are still Americans who even believe in those ideas. There are so many Americans those ideas. There are so many Americans those ideas. There are so many Americans right now that are just trying to right now that are just trying to right now that are just trying to survive. And when you're when you're up survive. And when you're when you're up survive. And when you're when you're up against not being able to feed your kids against not being able to feed your kids against not being able to feed your kids versus pariting the American promise, versus pariting the American promise, versus pariting the American promise, the American dream, you're going to the American dream, you're going to the American dream, you're going to default to feeding your own kids, even default to feeding your own kids, even default to feeding your own kids, even if it means stealing bread from your if it means stealing bread from your if it means stealing bread from your neighbor, right? So, we're in a very neighbor, right? So, we're in a very neighbor, right? So, we're in a very real place right now. It's fascinating real place right now. It's fascinating real place right now. It's fascinating to me that earlier in the conversation, to me that earlier in the conversation, to me that earlier in the conversation, you said that you're anticipating I'm you said that you're anticipating I'm you said that you're anticipating I'm I'm gonna I'm not going to use the I'm gonna I'm not going to use the I'm gonna I'm not going to use the correct words, but 10 years before we correct words, but 10 years before we correct words, but 10 years before we kind of unfuck this mess. kind of unfuck this mess. kind of unfuck this mess. >> No, no, no. before we implode. >> No, no, no. before we implode. >> No, no, no. before we implode. >> Before we implode, >> Before we implode, >> Before we implode, >> the debt will blow up. >> the debt will blow up. >> the debt will blow up. >> So, you've given us this 10-year >> So, you've given us this 10-year >> So, you've given us this 10-year timeline, and what I find fascinating is timeline, and what I find fascinating is timeline, and what I find fascinating is completely separate from this completely separate from this completely separate from this conversation, conversation, conversation, I've been talking about the United I've been talking about the United I've been talking about the United States going through 10 very difficult States going through 10 very difficult States going through 10 very difficult years. And I've been talking about it years. And I've been talking about it years. And I've been talking about it for maybe two years now, because of our for maybe two years now, because of our for maybe two years now, because of our ideological ideological ideological kind of fits right now, our ideological kind of fits right now, our ideological kind of fits right now, our ideological convulsions right now. we convulsions right now. we convulsions right now. we >> between the left and the right, >> between the left and the right, >> between the left and the right, >> between ourselves, between what we all >> between ourselves, between what we all >> between ourselves, between what we all believe to be true about America, believe to be true about America, believe to be true about America, separate of politics, but what we separate of politics, but what we separate of politics, but what we believe to be true about justice and believe to be true about justice and believe to be true about justice and checks and balances and democracy and checks and balances and democracy and checks and balances and democracy and freedom of you name it, freedom of the freedom of you name it, freedom of the freedom of you name it, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, uh the right press, freedom of speech, uh the right press, freedom of speech, uh the right to bear arms, uh trial in front of a to bear arms, uh trial in front of a to bear arms, uh trial in front of a panel of your peers. Everything we've panel of your peers. Everything we've panel of your peers. Everything we've ever believed about America has ever believed about America has ever believed about America has essentially been challenged and proven essentially been challenged and proven essentially been challenged and proven that there's a way around it in just the that there's a way around it in just the that there's a way around it in just the last two to four years. And the rise of last two to four years. And the rise of last two to four years. And the rise of the populist politician isn't something the populist politician isn't something the populist politician isn't something that we have to attribute to Donald that we have to attribute to Donald that we have to attribute to Donald Trump. It goes all the way back to Trump. It goes all the way back to Trump. It goes all the way back to Barack Obama. So, we have these just Barack Obama. So, we have these just Barack Obama. So, we have these just like you were saying, we've spawned a like you were saying, we've spawned a like you were saying, we've spawned a demon of the left and we've spawned a demon of the left and we've spawned a demon of the left and we've spawned a demon of the right. And the question is, demon of the right. And the question is, demon of the right. And the question is, how do we get back to a a world where we how do we get back to a a world where we how do we get back to a a world where we aren't spawning demons? We don't have to aren't spawning demons? We don't have to aren't spawning demons? We don't have to spawn angels, but how do we get to a spawn angels, but how do we get to a spawn angels, but how do we get to a place where we're not pulling forth the place where we're not pulling forth the place where we're not pulling forth the most aggressive damnation, you know, uh most aggressive damnation, you know, uh most aggressive damnation, you know, uh conflict oriented, manipulative forces? conflict oriented, manipulative forces? conflict oriented, manipulative forces? How do we find a way back to checks and How do we find a way back to checks and How do we find a way back to checks and balances? How do we find a way back to balances? How do we find a way back to balances? How do we find a way back to inviting cordial conversation with inviting cordial conversation with inviting cordial conversation with different points of view? not just in different points of view? not just in different points of view? not just in front of a camera like this, but in front of a camera like this, but in front of a camera like this, but in front of or like actually at the front of or like actually at the front of or like actually at the congressional floor. How do we get back congressional floor. How do we get back congressional floor. How do we get back to that? How do we stop encouraging to that? How do we stop encouraging to that? How do we stop encouraging extreme activity? because we have spent extreme activity? because we have spent extreme activity? because we have spent we spent 20 years fighting extremists we spent 20 years fighting extremists we spent 20 years fighting extremists only to now essentially be radicalizing only to now essentially be radicalizing only to now essentially be radicalizing ourselves and and that's not in our best ourselves and and that's not in our best ourselves and and that's not in our best interest if we plan on maintaining our interest if we plan on maintaining our interest if we plan on maintaining our position as the world's wealthiest position as the world's wealthiest position as the world's wealthiest country and kind of the global leader. country and kind of the global leader. country and kind of the global leader. If we plan on giving up that role, we If we plan on giving up that role, we If we plan on giving up that role, we can do whatever the [ __ ] we want. But if can do whatever the [ __ ] we want. But if can do whatever the [ __ ] we want. But if you want to keep that role, we have to you want to keep that role, we have to you want to keep that role, we have to make some very rapid corrections. make some very rapid corrections. make some very rapid corrections. Because to my earlier point about money Because to my earlier point about money Because to my earlier point about money goes where money goes, wealthy people goes where money goes, wealthy people goes where money goes, wealthy people follow their money. And where they follow their money. And where they follow their money. And where they diversify their wealth, they also start diversify their wealth, they also start diversify their wealth, they also start to diversify their own security and to diversify their own security and to diversify their own security and their own safety. And one of the things their own safety. And one of the things their own safety. And one of the things that makes America so powerful is not that makes America so powerful is not that makes America so powerful is not just our wealthy indigenous Americans. just our wealthy indigenous Americans. just our wealthy indigenous Americans. It's all the wealth around the world It's all the wealth around the world It's all the wealth around the world that chooses to come here and invest in that chooses to come here and invest in that chooses to come here and invest in this economy and invest in this place, this economy and invest in this place, this economy and invest in this place, this property, this system. And if if this property, this system. And if if this property, this system. And if if I'm a wealthy Malaysian, I'm a wealthy Malaysian, I'm a wealthy Malaysian, I'm looking at some other options right I'm looking at some other options right I'm looking at some other options right now besides just the United States to now besides just the United States to now besides just the United States to put my wealthy money. Okay, you've asked put my wealthy money. Okay, you've asked put my wealthy money. Okay, you've asked the right question. Now, no vagaries. the right question. Now, no vagaries. the right question. Now, no vagaries. How do we get back into that place? I How do we get back into that place? I How do we get back into that place? I don't know that America really wants to don't know that America really wants to don't know that America really wants to be back in that place. I am a little I'm be back in that place. I am a little I'm be back in that place. I am a little I'm frankly concerned that the vast majority frankly concerned that the vast majority frankly concerned that the vast majority of Americans have become so complacent of Americans have become so complacent of Americans have become so complacent and ignorant that they won't take the and ignorant that they won't take the and ignorant that they won't take the responsibility for the actions that they responsibility for the actions that they responsibility for the actions that they have to take. They won't seek peace with have to take. They won't seek peace with have to take. They won't seek peace with their neighbors. They won't let go of their neighbors. They won't let go of their neighbors. They won't let go of their political leanings. They won't their political leanings. They won't their political leanings. They won't take the time to research who's on the v take the time to research who's on the v take the time to research who's on the v on the ballot before they vote. They on the ballot before they vote. They on the ballot before they vote. They won't change what they watch, whether won't change what they watch, whether won't change what they watch, whether it's Fox News or CNN. They are so it's Fox News or CNN. They are so it's Fox News or CNN. They are so ingrained in their behaviors that ingrained in their behaviors that ingrained in their behaviors that they're not going to change, which they're not going to change, which they're not going to change, which leaves all the change that we need to leaves all the change that we need to leaves all the change that we need to the younger generations. And younger the younger generations. And younger the younger generations. And younger generations historically generations historically generations historically lean very progressive. They lean to the lean very progressive. They lean to the lean very progressive. They lean to the left. They have big dreams and big left. They have big dreams and big left. They have big dreams and big ideologies and they haven't had enough ideologies and they haven't had enough ideologies and they haven't had enough life experience to understand real risk. life experience to understand real risk. life experience to understand real risk. So what that what that means is that we So what that what that means is that we So what that what that means is that we will not have the grassroots change that will not have the grassroots change that will not have the grassroots change that we need and what grassroots change does we need and what grassroots change does we need and what grassroots change does happen will be very progressive very happen will be very progressive very happen will be very progressive very left-leaning because it will be led by left-leaning because it will be led by left-leaning because it will be led by people who don't have a financial stake people who don't have a financial stake people who don't have a financial stake in the future of their own country and in the future of their own country and in the future of their own country and then that's just going to spawn another then that's just going to spawn another then that's just going to spawn another counter effort to to counter the left counter effort to to counter the left counter effort to to counter the left and then we're right back in the same and then we're right back in the same and then we're right back in the same cycle where we are now. I would love to cycle where we are now. I would love to cycle where we are now. I would love to have an optimistic idea of the future of have an optimistic idea of the future of have an optimistic idea of the future of the United States. I just don't have it. the United States. I just don't have it. the United States. I just don't have it. I think the United States is going to go I think the United States is going to go I think the United States is going to go through a full generation of confusion through a full generation of confusion through a full generation of confusion and disarray and it will a solution will and disarray and it will a solution will and disarray and it will a solution will either present itself that I can't either present itself that I can't either present itself that I can't imagine right now or no solution will imagine right now or no solution will imagine right now or no solution will present itself and we will we will present itself and we will we will present itself and we will we will decline as our competitors continue to decline as our competitors continue to decline as our competitors continue to grow. grow. grow. That's very clear. Now, step into the That's very clear. Now, step into the That's very clear. Now, step into the theoretical for me for a second and theoretical for me for a second and theoretical for me for a second and assume that people will do the things, assume that people will do the things, assume that people will do the things, but they just need you to tell them what but they just need you to tell them what but they just need you to tell them what things to do. things to do. things to do. >> Okay? >> Okay? >> Okay? >> How would we with a willing populace, >> How would we with a willing populace, >> How would we with a willing populace, how would we get ourselves out of this how would we get ourselves out of this how would we get ourselves out of this mess? So, there's a midterm election coming up So, there's a midterm election coming up that we would need to see record level that we would need to see record level that we would need to see record level voting on, especially because there's voting on, especially because there's voting on, especially because there's been so much political gerrymandering. been so much political gerrymandering. been so much political gerrymandering. >> But what would you point them at? What >> But what would you point them at? What >> But what would you point them at? What should they vote for? should they vote for? should they vote for? >> They should vote for the the candidate >> They should vote for the the candidate >> They should vote for the the candidate that represents what they want for the that represents what they want for the that represents what they want for the future of the United States. But you future of the United States. But you future of the United States. But you already laid out the world's most already laid out the world's most already laid out the world's most compelling argument for what I'll say is compelling argument for what I'll say is compelling argument for what I'll say is populism. populism. populism. >> People are thinking emotionally. They're >> People are thinking emotionally. They're >> People are thinking emotionally. They're on a team. So if we send them in to vote on a team. So if we send them in to vote on a team. So if we send them in to vote and just say vote your conscience as of and just say vote your conscience as of and just say vote your conscience as of right now today even if they're willing right now today even if they're willing right now today even if they're willing >> if they're pointed at just vote for what >> if they're pointed at just vote for what >> if they're pointed at just vote for what you think is right they'll just be split you think is right they'll just be split you think is right they'll just be split right right right >> so that's and that's why I'm not saying >> so that's and that's why I'm not saying >> so that's and that's why I'm not saying vote your conscience okay I'm saying vote your conscience okay I'm saying vote your conscience okay I'm saying vote for the vision of the future that vote for the vision of the future that vote for the vision of the future that you want to see and I say that because you want to see and I say that because you want to see and I say that because what what what >> how's that different >> how's that different >> how's that different >> because the only certain politicians >> because the only certain politicians >> because the only certain politicians >> talk about a vision for the future most >> talk about a vision for the future most >> talk about a vision for the future most of them talk about what they're of them talk about what they're of them talk about what they're dissatisfied with right Now, even if you dissatisfied with right Now, even if you dissatisfied with right Now, even if you look at hate ads or or attack ads, look at hate ads or or attack ads, look at hate ads or or attack ads, right? Attack ads are very focused on right? Attack ads are very focused on right? Attack ads are very focused on right now, look what's happened. This right now, look what's happened. This right now, look what's happened. This person isn't doing what you prom isn't person isn't doing what you prom isn't person isn't doing what you prom isn't doing what they promised and and doesn't doing what they promised and and doesn't doing what they promised and and doesn't believe in, you know, freedom or believe in, you know, freedom or believe in, you know, freedom or democracy or whatever else. They're democracy or whatever else. They're democracy or whatever else. They're anti-immigration. They're pro whatever anti-immigration. They're pro whatever anti-immigration. They're pro whatever else. Like the the list goes on and on else. Like the the list goes on and on else. Like the the list goes on and on about the the here and the now. It's about the the here and the now. It's about the the here and the now. It's very rare that you come across somebody very rare that you come across somebody very rare that you come across somebody who is vision casting. Here's where I who is vision casting. Here's where I who is vision casting. Here's where I want us to go. I want us to find a way want us to go. I want us to find a way want us to go. I want us to find a way to work across the aisle. I want us to to work across the aisle. I want us to to work across the aisle. I want us to find a way to re reinstate checks and find a way to re reinstate checks and find a way to re reinstate checks and balances. I want to find a way to make balances. I want to find a way to make balances. I want to find a way to make the Fed independent again. You don't the Fed independent again. You don't the Fed independent again. You don't hear people talk about that. If you find hear people talk about that. If you find hear people talk about that. If you find someone who is talking about that, it's someone who is talking about that, it's someone who is talking about that, it's almost guaranteed that they're not almost guaranteed that they're not almost guaranteed that they're not backed by big money because the big backed by big money because the big backed by big money because the big money essentially forces them to back a money essentially forces them to back a money essentially forces them to back a certain horse or tow a certain party certain horse or tow a certain party certain horse or tow a certain party line. They're trying to pander to the line. They're trying to pander to the line. They're trying to pander to the the the the religious voter. They're trying to religious voter. They're trying to religious voter. They're trying to pander to the social security voter. pander to the social security voter. pander to the social security voter. trying to pander to the healthcare trying to pander to the healthcare trying to pander to the healthcare voter. They're trying to pander to the voter. They're trying to pander to the voter. They're trying to pander to the LGBTQ voter. And it's it's very focused LGBTQ voter. And it's it's very focused LGBTQ voter. And it's it's very focused on emotion, not focused on issue and on emotion, not focused on issue and on emotion, not focused on issue and vision. So, if you just focus on vision vision. So, if you just focus on vision vision. So, if you just focus on vision casting, 80% of the politicians that are casting, 80% of the politicians that are casting, 80% of the politicians that are out there are not going to be viable out there are not going to be viable out there are not going to be viable because they're not casting a vision. because they're not casting a vision. because they're not casting a vision. They're just backing a horse. But you They're just backing a horse. But you They're just backing a horse. But you have to actually research before you do have to actually research before you do have to actually research before you do that. You have to that. You have to that. You have to >> can can I name a candidate that I think >> can can I name a candidate that I think >> can can I name a candidate that I think I hear you describing and you tell me if I hear you describing and you tell me if I hear you describing and you tell me if I'm on I'm on I'm on >> if I know them please. >> if I know them please. >> if I know them please. >> Are we talking about JFK? >> Are we talking about JFK? >> Are we talking about JFK? >> Somebody who's like we're going to go to >> Somebody who's like we're going to go to >> Somebody who's like we're going to go to the moon not because it is easy but the moon not because it is easy but the moon not because it is easy but because it is hard and that's not what because it is hard and that's not what because it is hard and that's not what your country can do for you but what you your country can do for you but what you your country can do for you but what you could do. Are you talking about that could do. Are you talking about that could do. Are you talking about that kind of thing? kind of thing? kind of thing? >> So I don't disagree with that. I think >> So I don't disagree with that. I think >> So I don't disagree with that. I think what we're seeing with those kinds of what we're seeing with those kinds of what we're seeing with those kinds of vision casting are he was already the vision casting are he was already the vision casting are he was already the president and he was getting public president and he was getting public president and he was getting public support for where he wanted us to go in support for where he wanted us to go in support for where he wanted us to go in terms of our public spending. Um I don't terms of our public spending. Um I don't terms of our public spending. Um I don't I I don't have a good politician that I I don't have a good politician that I I don't have a good politician that comes to mind that casts a vision right comes to mind that casts a vision right comes to mind that casts a vision right now and I haven't seen one for a very now and I haven't seen one for a very now and I haven't seen one for a very long time at any level of government. long time at any level of government. long time at any level of government. But since we're going into a theoretical But since we're going into a theoretical But since we're going into a theoretical conversation, that's where I would say conversation, that's where I would say conversation, that's where I would say we would have to start. And if we're we would have to start. And if we're we would have to start. And if we're going if you're talking about people going if you're talking about people going if you're talking about people truly doing their civic duty, then when truly doing their civic duty, then when truly doing their civic duty, then when they don't find a candidate that speaks they don't find a candidate that speaks they don't find a candidate that speaks to the vision that needs to be cast, to the vision that needs to be cast, to the vision that needs to be cast, then they write to the candidate and then they write to the candidate and then they write to the candidate and they ask the candidate what their vision they ask the candidate what their vision they ask the candidate what their vision is. It used to be a very common thing is. It used to be a very common thing is. It used to be a very common thing for people to write their congressmen, for people to write their congressmen, for people to write their congressmen, write their senators, write their their write their senators, write their their write their senators, write their their people who were running. They would go people who were running. They would go people who were running. They would go to town halls. They would ask questions to town halls. They would ask questions to town halls. They would ask questions of the incumbent that were meaningful of the incumbent that were meaningful of the incumbent that were meaningful and important to them. That time has and important to them. That time has and important to them. That time has changed. Now, town halls are more of a changed. Now, town halls are more of a changed. Now, town halls are more of a political rally than anything else, but political rally than anything else, but political rally than anything else, but we have a chance to go back to that if we have a chance to go back to that if we have a chance to go back to that if we're willing to. Democracy was always we're willing to. Democracy was always we're willing to. Democracy was always meant to happen slowly. meant to happen slowly. meant to happen slowly. The fact that we've been able to take The fact that we've been able to take The fact that we've been able to take such rapid action like capturing Maduro such rapid action like capturing Maduro such rapid action like capturing Maduro in January and then uh killing narotists in January and then uh killing narotists in January and then uh killing narotists in in Mexico in February and then of in in Mexico in February and then of in in Mexico in February and then of attacking Iran in March. The reason we attacking Iran in March. The reason we attacking Iran in March. The reason we can move so fast is because we've can move so fast is because we've can move so fast is because we've shortcut a lot of those democratic shortcut a lot of those democratic shortcut a lot of those democratic processes and we have to find our way processes and we have to find our way processes and we have to find our way back to moving slow if we're going to back to moving slow if we're going to back to moving slow if we're going to trust democracy. If you don't want to trust democracy. If you don't want to trust democracy. If you don't want to trust democracy, that's fine. Don't trust democracy, that's fine. Don't trust democracy, that's fine. Don't trust it. But don't try to say that you trust it. But don't try to say that you trust it. But don't try to say that you trust it or that you believe in it if trust it or that you believe in it if trust it or that you believe in it if you're willing to let it be bypassed. you're willing to let it be bypassed. you're willing to let it be bypassed. Okay. So, um, we've got vision casting. Okay. So, um, we've got vision casting. Okay. So, um, we've got vision casting. So, somebody that has a clear vision for So, somebody that has a clear vision for So, somebody that has a clear vision for the future and can tell us how that the future and can tell us how that the future and can tell us how that we're going to get there. Is there any we're going to get there. Is there any we're going to get there. Is there any other sort of major tentpole of how we other sort of major tentpole of how we other sort of major tentpole of how we get out of this? get out of this? get out of this? >> What a good question. I'm sure that >> What a good question. I'm sure that >> What a good question. I'm sure that there have got to be there have got to be there have got to be >> there is >> there is >> there is >> a small handful. I just don't know what >> a small handful. I just don't know what >> a small handful. I just don't know what they are. they are. they are. >> Weep. >> Weep. >> Weep. >> I don't know that many people will say >> I don't know that many people will say >> I don't know that many people will say the only answer that I think is actually the only answer that I think is actually the only answer that I think is actually true. And that's you have to fix the true. And that's you have to fix the true. And that's you have to fix the economy. economy. economy. >> And [clears throat] so I just wrote a >> And [clears throat] so I just wrote a >> And [clears throat] so I just wrote a deep dive on this. Populism is by my deep dive on this. Populism is by my deep dive on this. Populism is by my definition and I I don't think anybody definition and I I don't think anybody definition and I I don't think anybody will give me a better one but populism will give me a better one but populism will give me a better one but populism is when people begin reasoning via is when people begin reasoning via is when people begin reasoning via emotion which is what humans do anyway emotion which is what humans do anyway emotion which is what humans do anyway [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> um but it ratchets up so the economy >> um but it ratchets up so the economy >> um but it ratchets up so the economy breaks people become fearful in the breaks people become fearful in the breaks people become fearful in the extreme they're worried about where extreme they're worried about where extreme they're worried about where their next meal comes from uh and that their next meal comes from uh and that their next meal comes from uh and that forces them to seek safety safety and forces them to seek safety safety and forces them to seek safety safety and numbers so they join a team then they numbers so they join a team then they numbers so they join a team then they summon forth the strong man who tells summon forth the strong man who tells summon forth the strong man who tells them everything is going to be Okay? them everything is going to be Okay? them everything is going to be Okay? Gives them an enemy to focus on. And Gives them an enemy to focus on. And Gives them an enemy to focus on. And that sense of safety makes people do that sense of safety makes people do that sense of safety makes people do murderous things. murderous things. murderous things. >> And the utterly fascinating thing about >> And the utterly fascinating thing about >> And the utterly fascinating thing about the most famous rise of that kind is of the most famous rise of that kind is of the most famous rise of that kind is of course Hitler. course Hitler. course Hitler. >> And Hitler when he came to power he >> And Hitler when he came to power he >> And Hitler when he came to power he ironically I used to think that he came ironically I used to think that he came ironically I used to think that he came to power because of the Treaty of to power because of the Treaty of to power because of the Treaty of Versailles and the loss of World War I. Versailles and the loss of World War I. Versailles and the loss of World War I. He actually didn't. So he started He actually didn't. So he started He actually didn't. So he started gaining in popularity during the gaining in popularity during the gaining in popularity during the whatever 1923 hyperinflation. And so he whatever 1923 hyperinflation. And so he whatever 1923 hyperinflation. And so he got up to like six% or six and a half% got up to like six% or six and a half% got up to like six% or six and a half% of the vote, but he was still like a of the vote, but he was still like a of the vote, but he was still like a super fringe character. It wasn't until super fringe character. It wasn't until super fringe character. It wasn't until the Great Depression. So he actually the Great Depression. So he actually the Great Depression. So he actually goes up to like 6% 6 and a half% goes up to like 6% 6 and a half% goes up to like 6% 6 and a half% popularity, then falls back down in 1928 popularity, then falls back down in 1928 popularity, then falls back down in 1928 to 2 and a.5%. So it's like, oh, he's to 2 and a.5%. So it's like, oh, he's to 2 and a.5%. So it's like, oh, he's kind of this washed up guy, right? And kind of this washed up guy, right? And kind of this washed up guy, right? And then the then the then the Great Depression hits and he goes from Great Depression hits and he goes from Great Depression hits and he goes from two and a half% popularity to like 37% two and a half% popularity to like 37% two and a half% popularity to like 37% in five years because [snorts] like what in five years because [snorts] like what in five years because [snorts] like what 50% of youth was unemployed, one in 50% of youth was unemployed, one in 50% of youth was unemployed, one in three Germans were unemployed full stop. three Germans were unemployed full stop. three Germans were unemployed full stop. I mean it was just like complete I mean it was just like complete I mean it was just like complete pandemonium. And so then when you've got pandemonium. And so then when you've got pandemonium. And so then when you've got a guy who's like not only do I know how a guy who's like not only do I know how a guy who's like not only do I know how to fix this, I know who the problem is. to fix this, I know who the problem is. to fix this, I know who the problem is. >> And so that's populism. So, we're in a >> And so that's populism. So, we're in a >> And so that's populism. So, we're in a populist moment and everybody's being populist moment and everybody's being populist moment and everybody's being very clear. If you're on the left, the very clear. If you're on the left, the very clear. If you're on the left, the right is the problem. If you're on the right is the problem. If you're on the right is the problem. If you're on the right, the left is the problem. Right right, the left is the problem. Right right, the left is the problem. Right now, 40% of Americans believe that uh now, 40% of Americans believe that uh now, 40% of Americans believe that uh the other side is morally bad. More than the other side is morally bad. More than the other side is morally bad. More than 50% of Americans think that their other 50% of Americans think that their other 50% of Americans think that their other fellow Americans are a threat to fellow Americans are a threat to fellow Americans are a threat to democracy or to the nation itself. I democracy or to the nation itself. I democracy or to the nation itself. I mean, it's like the stats are insane. mean, it's like the stats are insane. mean, it's like the stats are insane. And so we're in this populous moment, And so we're in this populous moment, And so we're in this populous moment, but everybody wants to treat the but everybody wants to treat the but everybody wants to treat the symptoms and not the cause. And the symptoms and not the cause. And the symptoms and not the cause. And the cause is the economic uncertainty. And cause is the economic uncertainty. And cause is the economic uncertainty. And even if you go back and look at Mao, even if you go back and look at Mao, even if you go back and look at Mao, same thing. Mao, economic uncertainty. same thing. Mao, economic uncertainty. same thing. Mao, economic uncertainty. Japan goes in and just completely [ __ ] Japan goes in and just completely [ __ ] Japan goes in and just completely [ __ ] up China. Uh Mao rises to power by up China. Uh Mao rises to power by up China. Uh Mao rises to power by winning the civil war. Everybody's winning the civil war. Everybody's winning the civil war. Everybody's economically uncertain. He's like, economically uncertain. He's like, economically uncertain. He's like, "Don't worry, I got you." Proceeds to "Don't worry, I got you." Proceeds to "Don't worry, I got you." Proceeds to kill 45 million of them. Uh but they kill 45 million of them. Uh but they kill 45 million of them. Uh but they keep following him partly just because keep following him partly just because keep following him partly just because of the sheer tyranny. Um but he comes to of the sheer tyranny. Um but he comes to of the sheer tyranny. Um but he comes to power as a strong man. Um same thing power as a strong man. Um same thing power as a strong man. Um same thing with Lenin. Same thing with um what's with Lenin. Same thing with um what's with Lenin. Same thing with um what's his face that followed Lenin? I cannot his face that followed Lenin? I cannot his face that followed Lenin? I cannot believe I'm blanking on his name. One of believe I'm blanking on his name. One of believe I'm blanking on his name. One of the most evil people to ever walk the the most evil people to ever walk the the most evil people to ever walk the earth. Uh so Stalin. earth. Uh so Stalin. earth. Uh so Stalin. >> Stalin. Thank you. So it's the first of >> Stalin. Thank you. So it's the first of >> Stalin. Thank you. So it's the first of all they come in left and right flavors. all they come in left and right flavors. all they come in left and right flavors. And so everybody is going to bang the And so everybody is going to bang the And so everybody is going to bang the drum about Trump and that's drum about Trump and that's drum about Trump and that's understandable because he's in power understandable because he's in power understandable because he's in power now. But if what we do is reject Trump now. But if what we do is reject Trump now. But if what we do is reject Trump and go to a Bernie figure, Manny AOC, and go to a Bernie figure, Manny AOC, and go to a Bernie figure, Manny AOC, >> it's one my particular bent is that that >> it's one my particular bent is that that >> it's one my particular bent is that that is economically even worse. You've got is economically even worse. You've got is economically even worse. You've got sort of kleptocrats over here, but at sort of kleptocrats over here, but at sort of kleptocrats over here, but at least they create an opportunity for you least they create an opportunity for you least they create an opportunity for you to get rich while they steal from you. to get rich while they steal from you. to get rich while they steal from you. You won't take advantage of the You won't take advantage of the You won't take advantage of the opportunity, but it's there. The other opportunity, but it's there. The other opportunity, but it's there. The other side just steals from you. You don't side just steals from you. You don't side just steals from you. You don't have an opportunity to get ahead. You have an opportunity to get ahead. You have an opportunity to get ahead. You get breadlines. Um, so look, they're get breadlines. Um, so look, they're get breadlines. Um, so look, they're both bad. I just think one is slightly both bad. I just think one is slightly both bad. I just think one is slightly worse than the other. But you worse than the other. But you worse than the other. But you definitely, if you cannot solve the definitely, if you cannot solve the definitely, if you cannot solve the economic problem, you will simply economic problem, you will simply economic problem, you will simply in a ever escalating drama swing from in a ever escalating drama swing from in a ever escalating drama swing from left to right and back again. left to right and back again. left to right and back again. >> But I would argue that the average >> But I would argue that the average >> But I would argue that the average person can't fix the economic issues. person can't fix the economic issues. person can't fix the economic issues. >> No, the average person can't fix the >> No, the average person can't fix the >> No, the average person can't fix the economic issues at all. So then yeah, economic issues at all. So then yeah, economic issues at all. So then yeah, how do the how does that how does the how do the how does that how does the how do the how does that how does the average person then participate in average person then participate in average person then participate in >> you electing Margaret Thatcher? >> you electing Margaret Thatcher? >> you electing Margaret Thatcher? >> So the >> So the >> So the >> so we're both going back to the root of >> so we're both going back to the root of >> so we're both going back to the root of of participating intelligently in the of participating intelligently in the of participating intelligently in the electoral process. electoral process. electoral process. >> Correct. The the only thing you can do >> Correct. The the only thing you can do >> Correct. The the only thing you can do is get the obvious thing that people is get the obvious thing that people is get the obvious thing that people should be banging pots and pans about is should be banging pots and pans about is should be banging pots and pans about is Thomas Massie, the only guy wearing a Thomas Massie, the only guy wearing a Thomas Massie, the only guy wearing a debt clock pin uh just got outed by debt clock pin uh just got outed by debt clock pin uh just got outed by Apac, Apac, Apac, >> which kids, your reputation is so bad. >> which kids, your reputation is so bad. >> which kids, your reputation is so bad. you are getting savaged. Yeah. you are getting savaged. Yeah. you are getting savaged. Yeah. >> Uh it's not like a small handful of >> Uh it's not like a small handful of >> Uh it's not like a small handful of people have turned against you. An people have turned against you. An people have turned against you. An entire generation or more has turned entire generation or more has turned entire generation or more has turned against you and you go and do that against you and you go and do that against you and you go and do that [ __ ] insanity. [ __ ] insanity. [ __ ] insanity. But anyway, they did it. Uh and so But anyway, they did it. Uh and so But anyway, they did it. Uh and so we have to get candidates who are we have to get candidates who are we have to get candidates who are economically literate and then elect economically literate and then elect economically literate and then elect them and then we have to deal with the them and then we have to deal with the them and then we have to deal with the fact that we're going to go through what fact that we're going to go through what fact that we're going to go through what Britain went through when Margaret Britain went through when Margaret Britain went through when Margaret Thatcher came into office. Uh but she Thatcher came into office. Uh but she Thatcher came into office. Uh but she ended up pulling them through getting to ended up pulling them through getting to ended up pulling them through getting to the other side and getting things back the other side and getting things back the other side and getting things back on track. Going from we're the on track. Going from we're the on track. Going from we're the wealthiest nation in the world to wealthiest nation in the world to wealthiest nation in the world to begging the IMF for a bailout only to begging the IMF for a bailout only to begging the IMF for a bailout only to actually rebuild and reestablish their actually rebuild and reestablish their actually rebuild and reestablish their wealth is I mean it's an incredible wealth is I mean it's an incredible wealth is I mean it's an incredible journey. Now they're not obviously what journey. Now they're not obviously what journey. Now they're not obviously what they used to be but they got on the they used to be but they got on the they used to be but they got on the other side at least briefly uh with other side at least briefly uh with other side at least briefly uh with Margaret Thatcher. So we would have to Margaret Thatcher. So we would have to Margaret Thatcher. So we would have to go through something like that so that go through something like that so that go through something like that so that we can start making the economy work for we can start making the economy work for we can start making the economy work for the average person again. But the thing the average person again. But the thing the average person again. But the thing that drives me mad mad is that the very that drives me mad mad is that the very that drives me mad mad is that the very thing that people vote for, which is thing that people vote for, which is thing that people vote for, which is more free stuff or bigger military or more free stuff or bigger military or more free stuff or bigger military or whatever it is that they're voting for whatever it is that they're voting for whatever it is that they're voting for that causes deficit spending, that causes deficit spending, that causes deficit spending, >> it will be stolen from you in the form >> it will be stolen from you in the form >> it will be stolen from you in the form of inflation of inflation of inflation >> and the fact that people just it it's >> and the fact that people just it it's >> and the fact that people just it it's just a bridge too far. You're never just a bridge too far. You're never just a bridge too far. You're never going to get people to understand that. going to get people to understand that. going to get people to understand that. I worry. I really hope I can, but um I I worry. I really hope I can, but um I I worry. I really hope I can, but um I certainly worry that that's just people certainly worry that that's just people certainly worry that that's just people are too busy trying to stay afloat. are too busy trying to stay afloat. are too busy trying to stay afloat. >> I hesitate to bring this up >> I hesitate to bring this up >> I hesitate to bring this up >> in large part because there's cameras on >> in large part because there's cameras on >> in large part because there's cameras on us, right? But also because it's just us, right? But also because it's just us, right? But also because it's just fraught with people misinterpreting it, fraught with people misinterpreting it, fraught with people misinterpreting it, right? But I have very seriously right? But I have very seriously right? But I have very seriously considered considered considered whether or not it's better to just whether or not it's better to just whether or not it's better to just give up on all the people who have give up on all the people who have give up on all the people who have already kind of given up on already kind of given up on already kind of given up on self-improvement, give up on people who self-improvement, give up on people who self-improvement, give up on people who have given up on learning, give up on have given up on learning, give up on have given up on learning, give up on people who it's a bridge too far to people who it's a bridge too far to people who it's a bridge too far to understand the impact of inflation. understand the impact of inflation. understand the impact of inflation. >> How do you give up? What does it look >> How do you give up? What does it look >> How do you give up? What does it look like? you just stop trying to educate like? you just stop trying to educate like? you just stop trying to educate them and instead you focus on the much them and instead you focus on the much them and instead you focus on the much smaller population which according to smaller population which according to smaller population which according to the 8020 rule is 20% of the population the 8020 rule is 20% of the population the 8020 rule is 20% of the population that actually has the capacity the that actually has the capacity the that actually has the capacity the interest the the ability to change their interest the the ability to change their interest the the ability to change their ways. Because if you give up on the 80% ways. Because if you give up on the 80% ways. Because if you give up on the 80% and you focus on the 20%, you're and you focus on the 20%, you're and you focus on the 20%, you're essentially accepting that the process essentially accepting that the process essentially accepting that the process of democracy, the majority rules idea, of democracy, the majority rules idea, of democracy, the majority rules idea, is no longer relevant. And instead, you is no longer relevant. And instead, you is no longer relevant. And instead, you kind of lean into the reality of the kind of lean into the reality of the kind of lean into the reality of the fact that a small group of people carry fact that a small group of people carry fact that a small group of people carry an outsized impact to the economy and to an outsized impact to the economy and to an outsized impact to the economy and to the world. And I say that because the world. And I say that because the world. And I say that because like even if you just look at one of the like even if you just look at one of the like even if you just look at one of the this is a me problem, not a not a you this is a me problem, not a not a you this is a me problem, not a not a you problem. Maybe it is a U problem that problem. Maybe it is a U problem that problem. Maybe it is a U problem that we've never talked about before, but we've never talked about before, but we've never talked about before, but I would love to educate I would love to educate I would love to educate spy skills that break barriers. The spy skills that break barriers. The spy skills that break barriers. The 22year-old 22year-old 22year-old who didn't go to college who's, you who didn't go to college who's, you who didn't go to college who's, you know, trying to figure out how to make know, trying to figure out how to make know, trying to figure out how to make life work in the same hometown where he life work in the same hometown where he life work in the same hometown where he went to high school. Just as much as I went to high school. Just as much as I went to high school. Just as much as I would like to educate the 35year-old would like to educate the 35year-old would like to educate the 35year-old who's already moved twice and who has an who's already moved twice and who has an who's already moved twice and who has an advanced degree and who's rising in his advanced degree and who's rising in his advanced degree and who's rising in his company, I would love to help them both. company, I would love to help them both. company, I would love to help them both. But the problem is they have very But the problem is they have very But the problem is they have very different lifestyles. They have very different lifestyles. They have very different lifestyles. They have very different challenges. They have very different challenges. They have very different challenges. They have very different priorities. Right? The different priorities. Right? The different priorities. Right? The 22-year-old probably doesn't have kids, 22-year-old probably doesn't have kids, 22-year-old probably doesn't have kids, isn't married, you know, still living in isn't married, you know, still living in isn't married, you know, still living in his hometown, doesn't have a perspective his hometown, doesn't have a perspective his hometown, doesn't have a perspective even outside of his state, where the even outside of his state, where the even outside of his state, where the 35-year-old who's moved multiple times, 35-year-old who's moved multiple times, 35-year-old who's moved multiple times, might be married, might have their first might be married, might have their first might be married, might have their first child already, and certainly knows what child already, and certainly knows what child already, and certainly knows what it's like to kind of suck eggs a little it's like to kind of suck eggs a little it's like to kind of suck eggs a little bit to succeed in a career. This person bit to succeed in a career. This person bit to succeed in a career. This person I can exponentially help in a just a I can exponentially help in a just a I can exponentially help in a just a short period of time, where this person short period of time, where this person short period of time, where this person takes convincing before I can ever takes convincing before I can ever takes convincing before I can ever actually help them. So when I choose how actually help them. So when I choose how actually help them. So when I choose how to spend my three hours of recording to spend my three hours of recording to spend my three hours of recording content today, content today, content today, isn't it more efficient for me to focus isn't it more efficient for me to focus isn't it more efficient for me to focus on this person who I can change more in on this person who I can change more in on this person who I can change more in a shorter period of time rather than a shorter period of time rather than a shorter period of time rather than spend part of my creat my my education spend part of my creat my my education spend part of my creat my my education and training time on this other person? and training time on this other person? and training time on this other person? And I say that And I say that And I say that in a in a in a in a in a in a true place of of difficulty because I've true place of of difficulty because I've true place of of difficulty because I've always been a public servant. when I was always been a public servant. when I was always been a public servant. when I was in the military, when I was at CIA, our in the military, when I was at CIA, our in the military, when I was at CIA, our our job is to protect even the least of our job is to protect even the least of our job is to protect even the least of us. us. us. But now that I've learned a little bit But now that I've learned a little bit But now that I've learned a little bit about how the economy actually works and about how the economy actually works and about how the economy actually works and I've been able to break through a I've been able to break through a I've been able to break through a financial barrier of my own that nobody financial barrier of my own that nobody financial barrier of my own that nobody in my family could ever break through, I in my family could ever break through, I in my family could ever break through, I have certainly seen the financial have certainly seen the financial have certainly seen the financial benefit of not focusing on a losing benefit of not focusing on a losing benefit of not focusing on a losing horse, but betting on a winning horse. horse, but betting on a winning horse. horse, but betting on a winning horse. And if we all did that though, And if we all did that though, And if we all did that though, we'd be taken for a ride, right? like we we'd be taken for a ride, right? like we we'd be taken for a ride, right? like we would essentially be reinforcing the would essentially be reinforcing the would essentially be reinforcing the system that already exists. It it may system that already exists. It it may system that already exists. It it may just be as simple as the civil servant just be as simple as the civil servant just be as simple as the civil servant thing, but I thought there was going to thing, but I thought there was going to thing, but I thought there was going to be something lurking in there that was be something lurking in there that was be something lurking in there that was bad. So, anything that all the things bad. So, anything that all the things bad. So, anything that all the things that you just said do not seem strange that you just said do not seem strange that you just said do not seem strange to me at all. Now, it may be because uh to me at all. Now, it may be because uh to me at all. Now, it may be because uh people think my lens on the world is so people think my lens on the world is so people think my lens on the world is so bizarre that I can't see anything, but bizarre that I can't see anything, but bizarre that I can't see anything, but yeah, that just makes sense. Um now like yeah, that just makes sense. Um now like yeah, that just makes sense. Um now like you I went on a journey. I used to get you I went on a journey. I used to get you I went on a journey. I used to get made fun of uh for trying to help made fun of uh for trying to help made fun of uh for trying to help everybody and everybody and everybody and uh people were like you do realize that uh people were like you do realize that uh people were like you do realize that some people are never going to change. some people are never going to change. some people are never going to change. There's nothing you could do. And I There's nothing you could do. And I There's nothing you could do. And I really thought I could get good enough really thought I could get good enough really thought I could get good enough that I could string together a magic that I could string together a magic that I could string together a magic sequence of words sequence of words sequence of words >> that would somehow reach inside people's >> that would somehow reach inside people's >> that would somehow reach inside people's soul and get them to change course. And soul and get them to change course. And soul and get them to change course. And part of the reason I stopped doing part of the reason I stopped doing part of the reason I stopped doing mindset content was because I realized mindset content was because I realized mindset content was because I realized 2% of people do something with it. M 2% of people do something with it. M 2% of people do something with it. M >> 98% don't. And the 2% will self- select. >> 98% don't. And the 2% will self- select. >> 98% don't. And the 2% will self- select. And so I guess in that sense I think I'm And so I guess in that sense I think I'm And so I guess in that sense I think I'm only ever speaking to the people that only ever speaking to the people that only ever speaking to the people that are going to make change. However, and are going to make change. However, and are going to make change. However, and maybe this helps you in some way. I maybe this helps you in some way. I maybe this helps you in some way. I think that ultimately all of us have an think that ultimately all of us have an think that ultimately all of us have an obligation to build a world that's obligation to build a world that's obligation to build a world that's awesome for the people that are either awesome for the people that are either awesome for the people that are either too busy. Um, they are the backbone of too busy. Um, they are the backbone of too busy. Um, they are the backbone of our current society, just [ __ ] hands our current society, just [ __ ] hands our current society, just [ __ ] hands dirty, putting things together, making dirty, putting things together, making dirty, putting things together, making it work. Um, I think people at least it work. Um, I think people at least it work. Um, I think people at least trying to capture some of the even if trying to capture some of the even if trying to capture some of the even if it's the mythological energy and it it's the mythological energy and it it's the mythological energy and it wasn't real, but the the story we were wasn't real, but the the story we were wasn't real, but the the story we were told about the founding fathers trying told about the founding fathers trying told about the founding fathers trying to build something that would last well to build something that would last well to build something that would last well beyond them that would be good for the beyond them that would be good for the beyond them that would be good for the masses that had this um foundation that masses that had this um foundation that masses that had this um foundation that over time I mean for a long time was over time I mean for a long time was over time I mean for a long time was really just curing the ills of society really just curing the ills of society really just curing the ills of society finally end slavery and all that. I mean finally end slavery and all that. I mean finally end slavery and all that. I mean just like a really incredible foundation just like a really incredible foundation just like a really incredible foundation that we built on for the last 250 years. that we built on for the last 250 years. that we built on for the last 250 years. And so there is a sense of like no I And so there is a sense of like no I And so there is a sense of like no I have an obligation to do something that have an obligation to do something that have an obligation to do something that um might not be optimized for me but is um might not be optimized for me but is um might not be optimized for me but is going to be good for the masses. And going to be good for the masses. And going to be good for the masses. And this is why I say my northstar is a this is why I say my northstar is a this is why I say my northstar is a thriving middle class as an orienting thriving middle class as an orienting thriving middle class as an orienting mechanism to just be like it's the the mechanism to just be like it's the the mechanism to just be like it's the the bulk of the bell curve. And so, um, I bulk of the bell curve. And so, um, I bulk of the bell curve. And so, um, I think you don't get there by spending think you don't get there by spending think you don't get there by spending all of your time on the person that is all of your time on the person that is all of your time on the person that is just not going to change. But I think just not going to change. But I think just not going to change. But I think that it, with my worldview, you have a that it, with my worldview, you have a that it, with my worldview, you have a moral obligation to think of them, not moral obligation to think of them, not moral obligation to think of them, not exclusively, but to put them in in the exclusively, but to put them in in the exclusively, but to put them in in the like pole position of like who are we like pole position of like who are we like pole position of like who are we trying to optimize for? Um, now having trying to optimize for? Um, now having trying to optimize for? Um, now having said all of that, as I really think said all of that, as I really think said all of that, as I really think through the problem of through the problem of through the problem of what we have done, this is a uniquely what we have done, this is a uniquely what we have done, this is a uniquely sort of American thing because of the sort of American thing because of the sort of American thing because of the debt, but we have to get to the point debt, but we have to get to the point debt, but we have to get to the point where the people that where the people that where the people that vote are voting for something that is in vote are voting for something that is in vote are voting for something that is in the middle class's best interest. And the middle class's best interest. And the middle class's best interest. And right now, at least on the left, the right now, at least on the left, the right now, at least on the left, the trend is towards voting for more free trend is towards voting for more free trend is towards voting for more free [ __ ] which just means stealing from you [ __ ] which just means stealing from you [ __ ] which just means stealing from you in another way. And obviously the right in another way. And obviously the right in another way. And obviously the right is doing kleptocratic [ __ ] right now. So is doing kleptocratic [ __ ] right now. So is doing kleptocratic [ __ ] right now. So that isn't helping for sure. Um, so if that isn't helping for sure. Um, so if that isn't helping for sure. Um, so if we're going to put something in place we're going to put something in place we're going to put something in place that will actually get people to vote that will actually get people to vote that will actually get people to vote for their best interest, you somehow for their best interest, you somehow for their best interest, you somehow have to align their interests either by have to align their interests either by have to align their interests either by reducing make everything means tested so reducing make everything means tested so reducing make everything means tested so nothing is handed out to people. Um, nothing is handed out to people. Um, nothing is handed out to people. Um, unless it's like for real, for real, unless it's like for real, for real, unless it's like for real, for real, like this person cannot work. They are like this person cannot work. They are like this person cannot work. They are not able-bodied. Um, up the age of not able-bodied. Um, up the age of not able-bodied. Um, up the age of retirement, I know people are going to retirement, I know people are going to retirement, I know people are going to hate that, but it's like well if we have hate that, but it's like well if we have hate that, but it's like well if we have an aging population, we don't have an aging population, we don't have an aging population, we don't have enough people to take care of them. You enough people to take care of them. You enough people to take care of them. You can't just deficit spend because you're can't just deficit spend because you're can't just deficit spend because you're stealing from everybody, especially the stealing from everybody, especially the stealing from everybody, especially the young. Uh, and so young. Uh, and so young. Uh, and so when you start looking at those when you start looking at those when you start looking at those solutions, that's where it gets hard. solutions, that's where it gets hard. solutions, that's where it gets hard. That's where it's like, I'm aware that That's where it's like, I'm aware that That's where it's like, I'm aware that there are cameras on me and what there are cameras on me and what there are cameras on me and what solutions am I really prepared to put solutions am I really prepared to put solutions am I really prepared to put forward? Um, but we have to find a way forward? Um, but we have to find a way forward? Um, but we have to find a way to get people to vote in a way that is to get people to vote in a way that is to get people to vote in a way that is mechanistically not intentional. Like, I mechanistically not intentional. Like, I mechanistically not intentional. Like, I don't care about your intentions. I'm don't care about your intentions. I'm don't care about your intentions. I'm sure a lot of people that vote for sure a lot of people that vote for sure a lot of people that vote for communism have good intentions. communism have good intentions. communism have good intentions. Mechanistically, it's evil. And so, it's Mechanistically, it's evil. And so, it's Mechanistically, it's evil. And so, it's one of those it's documentably evil. one of those it's documentably evil. one of those it's documentably evil. Like, you need to show people this is Like, you need to show people this is Like, you need to show people this is how it works out every time. And you can how it works out every time. And you can how it works out every time. And you can show them the mechanism as to why it's show them the mechanism as to why it's show them the mechanism as to why it's going to work out like that every time going to work out like that every time going to work out like that every time you try it. No matter what, it's a you try it. No matter what, it's a you try it. No matter what, it's a mechanism. mechanism. mechanism. >> Uh, so how we get there, the only thing >> Uh, so how we get there, the only thing >> Uh, so how we get there, the only thing I can think is you have to align the I can think is you have to align the I can think is you have to align the voters selfish interests with what is voters selfish interests with what is voters selfish interests with what is actually good for the economy. And that actually good for the economy. And that actually good for the economy. And that is not going to be easy. is not going to be easy. is not going to be easy. >> So, we've got >> So, we've got >> So, we've got 10 years before we implode. 10 years before we implode. 10 years before we implode. >> Unfortunately, nine at this point, I >> Unfortunately, nine at this point, I >> Unfortunately, nine at this point, I think roughly. think roughly. think roughly. >> Is there a way to avoid it? >> Is there a way to avoid it? >> Is there a way to avoid it? >> Yes. Uh, dude, you could avoid it. Uh, >> Yes. Uh, dude, you could avoid it. Uh, >> Yes. Uh, dude, you could avoid it. Uh, what is it? Rand Paul has the dumbest, what is it? Rand Paul has the dumbest, what is it? Rand Paul has the dumbest, easiest, most straightforward. He calls easiest, most straightforward. He calls easiest, most straightforward. He calls it like the six cent rule or something. it like the six cent rule or something. it like the six cent rule or something. It's like you reduce the budget by 6% It's like you reduce the budget by 6% It's like you reduce the budget by 6% every year for five years. And that's every year for five years. And that's every year for five years. And that's literally all it takes. And you do it literally all it takes. And you do it literally all it takes. And you do it across everything. So so that nobody can across everything. So so that nobody can across everything. So so that nobody can say anybody's pay playing political say anybody's pay playing political say anybody's pay playing political favorites, you literally just the entire favorites, you literally just the entire favorites, you literally just the entire budget equally is reduced by 6%. So I it budget equally is reduced by 6%. So I it budget equally is reduced by 6%. So I it sounds like there's a mechanism that sounds like there's a mechanism that sounds like there's a mechanism that could work. could work. could work. >> Don't deficit spend. >> Don't deficit spend. >> Don't deficit spend. >> But the the only group of people that >> But the the only group of people that >> But the the only group of people that can execute that are not everyday can execute that are not everyday can execute that are not everyday people. They're at the top of the food people. They're at the top of the food people. They're at the top of the food chain. chain. chain. >> Yes. And then there's a there's a time >> Yes. And then there's a there's a time >> Yes. And then there's a there's a time constraint because to get the person constraint because to get the person constraint because to get the person that's going to make that decision into that's going to make that decision into that's going to make that decision into office is going to take time. office is going to take time. office is going to take time. >> Is >> Is >> Is >> I can taste the black on the capsule of >> I can taste the black on the capsule of >> I can taste the black on the capsule of this pill that you're going to ask me to this pill that you're going to ask me to this pill that you're going to ask me to embibe. [laughter] Thank you. embibe. [laughter] Thank you. embibe. [laughter] Thank you. Do we have the time to find our Margaret Do we have the time to find our Margaret Do we have the time to find our Margaret Thatcher? Do we have the time to get Thatcher? Do we have the time to get Thatcher? Do we have the time to get that person in there so that they can that person in there so that they can that person in there so that they can implement the mechanism so that we can implement the mechanism so that we can implement the mechanism so that we can turn it around? turn it around? turn it around? >> It's just will we is the exact question. >> It's just will we is the exact question. >> It's just will we is the exact question. Now the great news is when I say that we Now the great news is when I say that we Now the great news is when I say that we have nine years that assumes nothing have nine years that assumes nothing have nine years that assumes nothing changes. The good or bad news is Scott changes. The good or bad news is Scott changes. The good or bad news is Scott Besson understands this so well he is Besson understands this so well he is Besson understands this so well he is going to weaken the dollar. Uh, I have going to weaken the dollar. Uh, I have going to weaken the dollar. Uh, I have to imagine they got Kevin W in there to imagine they got Kevin W in there to imagine they got Kevin W in there because behind the scenes, and I don't because behind the scenes, and I don't because behind the scenes, and I don't know, so I'm not trying to defame him, know, so I'm not trying to defame him, know, so I'm not trying to defame him, but I imagine behind the scenes there's but I imagine behind the scenes there's but I imagine behind the scenes there's no universe in which they put him in no universe in which they put him in no universe in which they put him in because Besson is so sharp. There's no because Besson is so sharp. There's no because Besson is so sharp. There's no way they put him in position if he way they put him in position if he way they put him in position if he wasn't like, "Yeah, I get it. I I wasn't like, "Yeah, I get it. I I wasn't like, "Yeah, I get it. I I [clears throat] know what the deal is, [clears throat] know what the deal is, [clears throat] know what the deal is, and I'm going to try to reduce the Fed's and I'm going to try to reduce the Fed's and I'm going to try to reduce the Fed's balance sheet. Um, but boy oh boy, do I balance sheet. Um, but boy oh boy, do I balance sheet. Um, but boy oh boy, do I understand that if we have to inflate so understand that if we have to inflate so understand that if we have to inflate so that the debt is easier to pay back, that the debt is easier to pay back, that the debt is easier to pay back, then that's what we're going to do. then that's what we're going to do. then that's what we're going to do. So they will they actually let us So they will they actually let us So they will they actually let us implode? Probably not. But if they don't implode? Probably not. But if they don't implode? Probably not. But if they don't let us implode, it will hasten the let us implode, it will hasten the let us implode, it will hasten the Kshape. It will make violent revolution Kshape. It will make violent revolution Kshape. It will make violent revolution that much more likely. And so they'll that much more likely. And so they'll that much more likely. And so they'll have to walk a really fine line. Um, do have to walk a really fine line. Um, do have to walk a really fine line. Um, do I think they can pull it off? Maybe. I think they can pull it off? Maybe. I think they can pull it off? Maybe. We'll see. There there are other We'll see. There there are other We'll see. There there are other options, I guess, is the punch line options, I guess, is the punch line options, I guess, is the punch line there. They're not good and I wish we there. They're not good and I wish we there. They're not good and I wish we wouldn't do them. But it isn't a binary wouldn't do them. But it isn't a binary wouldn't do them. But it isn't a binary choice between elect Thomas Massie as choice between elect Thomas Massie as choice between elect Thomas Massie as president or we end up in revolution or president or we end up in revolution or president or we end up in revolution or defaulting on our debt. We're not going defaulting on our debt. We're not going defaulting on our debt. We're not going to default on our debt. The certainly to default on our debt. The certainly to default on our debt. The certainly right now the people in power are so right now the people in power are so right now the people in power are so [ __ ] savvy financially. Um it's just [ __ ] savvy financially. Um it's just [ __ ] savvy financially. Um it's just a really shitty solution. a really shitty solution. a really shitty solution. your shitty solution is still somehow your shitty solution is still somehow your shitty solution is still somehow comforting to what I generally think comforting to what I generally think comforting to what I generally think about because I really very much I have about because I really very much I have about because I really very much I have become become become hyperfocused on just kind of creating hyperfocused on just kind of creating hyperfocused on just kind of creating the best future for my own kids the best future for my own kids the best future for my own kids >> and when you talk about >> and when you talk about >> and when you talk about man it was inspiring if anybody anybody man it was inspiring if anybody anybody man it was inspiring if anybody anybody who heard what you had to say and wasn't who heard what you had to say and wasn't who heard what you had to say and wasn't inspired is coming from a different inspired is coming from a different inspired is coming from a different planet than I come from right but when planet than I come from right but when planet than I come from right but when you talk about protecting the that you talk about protecting the that you talk about protecting the that working class that makes it all happen. working class that makes it all happen. working class that makes it all happen. The person with the with the dirt on The person with the with the dirt on The person with the with the dirt on their arms. There's construction going their arms. There's construction going their arms. There's construction going on in the road in front of my house. on in the road in front of my house. on in the road in front of my house. When when my wife and I moved, we moved When when my wife and I moved, we moved When when my wife and I moved, we moved last fee or this February. And the only last fee or this February. And the only last fee or this February. And the only complaint that she had about the complaint that she had about the complaint that she had about the neighborhood that we were moving into neighborhood that we were moving into neighborhood that we were moving into was the road. was the road. was the road. >> The road to the neighborhood and then >> The road to the neighborhood and then >> The road to the neighborhood and then the road through our neighborhood right the road through our neighborhood right the road through our neighborhood right by our house was horrible. Like not like by our house was horrible. Like not like by our house was horrible. Like not like abandoned third world kind of roads, abandoned third world kind of roads, abandoned third world kind of roads, right? But like modern day American right? But like modern day American right? But like modern day American roads, this was horrible by all roads, this was horrible by all roads, this was horrible by all definitions. It had the big like waves definitions. It had the big like waves definitions. It had the big like waves in it where you could very clearly see in it where you could very clearly see in it where you could very clearly see like here's a sewage drain because the like here's a sewage drain because the like here's a sewage drain because the road goes up and then you pass the road goes up and then you pass the road goes up and then you pass the sewage drain and the road dips again and sewage drain and the road dips again and sewage drain and the road dips again and there's huge potholes and cracks and there's huge potholes and cracks and there's huge potholes and cracks and overgrowing on the sides and just a overgrowing on the sides and just a overgrowing on the sides and just a Colorado road in disarray. Colorado road in disarray. Colorado road in disarray. So maybe four weeks ago, three weeks So maybe four weeks ago, three weeks So maybe four weeks ago, three weeks ago, um Colorado Springs comes in and ago, um Colorado Springs comes in and ago, um Colorado Springs comes in and starts tearing up the road and they're starts tearing up the road and they're starts tearing up the road and they're relaying the entire road. They're trying relaying the entire road. They're trying relaying the entire road. They're trying to hit 200 feet a day, to hit 200 feet a day, to hit 200 feet a day, >> but the road itself is probably 3/4 of a >> but the road itself is probably 3/4 of a >> but the road itself is probably 3/4 of a mile long, right? So, every day from 7 mile long, right? So, every day from 7 mile long, right? So, every day from 7 o'clock in the morning till 7 o'clock at o'clock in the morning till 7 o'clock at o'clock in the morning till 7 o'clock at night, I see the same 12ish night, I see the same 12ish night, I see the same 12ish construction workers out there driving construction workers out there driving construction workers out there driving heavy machinery, breaking through heavy machinery, breaking through heavy machinery, breaking through asphalt, laying and pushing dirt every asphalt, laying and pushing dirt every asphalt, laying and pushing dirt every day. And I never thought about the life day. And I never thought about the life day. And I never thought about the life of a construction worker until the of a construction worker until the of a construction worker until the [ __ ] were in front of my house every [ __ ] were in front of my house every [ __ ] were in front of my house every single day sweating their tails off. single day sweating their tails off. single day sweating their tails off. >> Filthy. Like that's backbreaking work. >> Filthy. Like that's backbreaking work. >> Filthy. Like that's backbreaking work. >> They might be driving a giant bulldozer, >> They might be driving a giant bulldozer, >> They might be driving a giant bulldozer, but that's a giant multi-tonon vehicle but that's a giant multi-tonon vehicle but that's a giant multi-tonon vehicle and they're one small turn away from and they're one small turn away from and they're one small turn away from tearing up a a sidewalk or, you know, tearing up a a sidewalk or, you know, tearing up a a sidewalk or, you know, destroying a car or hurting a person, destroying a car or hurting a person, destroying a car or hurting a person, right? Meanwhile, the whole neighborhood right? Meanwhile, the whole neighborhood right? Meanwhile, the whole neighborhood still lives in the neighborhood. So, still lives in the neighborhood. So, still lives in the neighborhood. So, there's people walking dogs, kids there's people walking dogs, kids there's people walking dogs, kids playing with each other, bicycles going playing with each other, bicycles going playing with each other, bicycles going on. People are trying to be respectful on. People are trying to be respectful on. People are trying to be respectful of the workers. But I have never put of the workers. But I have never put of the workers. But I have never put myself in their shoes like I did until I myself in their shoes like I did until I myself in their shoes like I did until I started seeing them every day. started seeing them every day. started seeing them every day. >> And about five or seven days into it, I >> And about five or seven days into it, I >> And about five or seven days into it, I was like, I feel compelled to bring them was like, I feel compelled to bring them was like, I feel compelled to bring them pizza for dinner. Like just go buy seven pizza for dinner. Like just go buy seven pizza for dinner. Like just go buy seven large pizzas and bring because I know large pizzas and bring because I know large pizzas and bring because I know they're going to wrap up at 7 p.m. they're going to wrap up at 7 p.m. they're going to wrap up at 7 p.m. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. But until you stop to realize how But until you stop to realize how But until you stop to realize how fundamentally important that working fundamentally important that working fundamentally important that working person really is and the fact that person really is and the fact that person really is and the fact that they're like not a single one of them is they're like not a single one of them is they're like not a single one of them is over the age of 50 over the age of 50 over the age of 50 >> because that's backbreaking work, right? >> because that's backbreaking work, right? >> because that's backbreaking work, right? >> But my point with all of that is just >> But my point with all of that is just >> But my point with all of that is just when you talked about how there's a when you talked about how there's a when you talked about how there's a moral obligation that we all have to moral obligation that we all have to moral obligation that we all have to support that support that support that fundamental workforce and you weren't fundamental workforce and you weren't fundamental workforce and you weren't talking about construction workers only. talking about construction workers only. talking about construction workers only. There's there's accountants and there's There's there's accountants and there's There's there's accountants and there's uh teachers and there's a whole slew of uh teachers and there's a whole slew of uh teachers and there's a whole slew of trades that are required to build the trades that are required to build the trades that are required to build the country. I mean that was a is a damned country. I mean that was a is a damned country. I mean that was a is a damned good point that makes me feel like I good point that makes me feel like I good point that makes me feel like I need to rethink the idea of I just I need to rethink the idea of I just I need to rethink the idea of I just I need to protect my children by need to protect my children by need to protect my children by protecting my children protecting my children protecting my children >> to I need to protect my children by >> to I need to protect my children by >> to I need to protect my children by protecting the middle class that makes protecting the middle class that makes protecting the middle class that makes the future for my children possible. the future for my children possible. the future for my children possible. >> Yeah, that's a dope way to say it. And I >> Yeah, that's a dope way to say it. And I >> Yeah, that's a dope way to say it. And I mean, you can also just step into being mean, you can also just step into being mean, you can also just step into being a selfish capitalist and saying, "I need a selfish capitalist and saying, "I need a selfish capitalist and saying, "I need a thriving country that has disposable a thriving country that has disposable a thriving country that has disposable income, that's optimistic and hopeful income, that's optimistic and hopeful income, that's optimistic and hopeful about their future, that has kids. Uh, I about their future, that has kids. Uh, I about their future, that has kids. Uh, I need people to have kids because I'm need people to have kids because I'm need people to have kids because I'm trying to make children's entertainment. trying to make children's entertainment. trying to make children's entertainment. [laughter] So it's like I I need [laughter] So it's like I I need [laughter] So it's like I I need healthy, happy kids with loving families healthy, happy kids with loving families healthy, happy kids with loving families to um you know to to um you know to to um you know to create things for that gives me meaning create things for that gives me meaning create things for that gives me meaning and purpose. Um, and then also just once and purpose. Um, and then also just once and purpose. Um, and then also just once you understand the raw mechanisms of the you understand the raw mechanisms of the you understand the raw mechanisms of the economy, you're like, "Oh, wow. It's economy, you're like, "Oh, wow. It's economy, you're like, "Oh, wow. It's interesting that the economic forces interesting that the economic forces interesting that the economic forces have this constant impulse to um create have this constant impulse to um create have this constant impulse to um create these financialized games so that they these financialized games so that they these financialized games so that they can win at the extreme can win at the extreme can win at the extreme and at some point they start losing and at some point they start losing and at some point they start losing touch with the Warren Buffett of it all touch with the Warren Buffett of it all touch with the Warren Buffett of it all where it's like value investing. What where it's like value investing. What where it's like value investing. What are the good companies? What are the are the good companies? What are the are the good companies? What are the people that are really making core people that are really making core people that are really making core products that make this country what it products that make this country what it products that make this country what it is or whatever, fill in the country, is or whatever, fill in the country, is or whatever, fill in the country, Peru, China, Japan, whatever. But the Peru, China, Japan, whatever. But the Peru, China, Japan, whatever. But the people in this country that are trying people in this country that are trying people in this country that are trying to build something, that are trying to to build something, that are trying to to build something, that are trying to innovate, that are trying to make their innovate, that are trying to make their innovate, that are trying to make their lives better and their kids' lives lives better and their kids' lives lives better and their kids' lives better. That impulse is awesome and we better. That impulse is awesome and we better. That impulse is awesome and we want to fuel that with investing. I've want to fuel that with investing. I've want to fuel that with investing. I've said many, many, many times, the stock said many, many, many times, the stock said many, many, many times, the stock market is a modern miracle. But you also market is a modern miracle. But you also market is a modern miracle. But you also get into this version where you have get into this version where you have get into this version where you have these people that are so good at the these people that are so good at the these people that are so good at the gambling portion of it. People hate it gambling portion of it. People hate it gambling portion of it. People hate it when I call it that, but I'll stand 10 when I call it that, but I'll stand 10 when I call it that, but I'll stand 10 toes down on that. And so you get that toes down on that. And so you get that toes down on that. And so you get that at the extremes, it makes it complicated at the extremes, it makes it complicated at the extremes, it makes it complicated enough that people get fearful to get enough that people get fearful to get enough that people get fearful to get in. We don't teach people about how to in. We don't teach people about how to in. We don't teach people about how to invest for the long term. Um, and so invest for the long term. Um, and so invest for the long term. Um, and so once you understand the mechanisms of once you understand the mechanisms of once you understand the mechanisms of that whole machinery, you're like, "Oh, that whole machinery, you're like, "Oh, that whole machinery, you're like, "Oh, got it." Like things have to you you got it." Like things have to you you got it." Like things have to you you need real companies selling to real need real companies selling to real need real companies selling to real people, innovating for real people. You people, innovating for real people. You people, innovating for real people. You need the masses to have disposable need the masses to have disposable need the masses to have disposable income. You need velocity of money. Like income. You need velocity of money. Like income. You need velocity of money. Like there are all these things that are there are all these things that are there are all these things that are mechanistic and they require a giant mechanistic and they require a giant mechanistic and they require a giant middle class. And when you have that middle class. And when you have that middle class. And when you have that giant middle class and they're healthy giant middle class and they're healthy giant middle class and they're healthy and they're optimistic and they're and they're optimistic and they're and they're optimistic and they're growing and they've got the ability to growing and they've got the ability to growing and they've got the ability to go up or down, that's important because go up or down, that's important because go up or down, that's important because right now you can go up, you can go down right now you can go up, you can go down right now you can go up, you can go down and then you're stuck. And so it's like and then you're stuck. And so it's like and then you're stuck. And so it's like you don't want people to be able to be you don't want people to be able to be you don't want people to be able to be rich forever unless they're just that rich forever unless they're just that rich forever unless they're just that good. Hey, if they're that good and good. Hey, if they're that good and good. Hey, if they're that good and they're winning all the time, fantastic. they're winning all the time, fantastic. they're winning all the time, fantastic. >> Um but you want mobility. And mobility >> Um but you want mobility. And mobility >> Um but you want mobility. And mobility means that you can't do the um socialism means that you can't do the um socialism means that you can't do the um socialism for the wealthy. So if a bank goes for the wealthy. So if a bank goes for the wealthy. So if a bank goes under, a bank goes under. It is what it under, a bank goes under. It is what it under, a bank goes under. It is what it is. is. is. >> Uh if a company goes under, it goes >> Uh if a company goes under, it goes >> Uh if a company goes under, it goes under. It is what it is, man. Like under. It is what it is, man. Like under. It is what it is, man. Like you've got to let those companies die. you've got to let those companies die. you've got to let those companies die. Uh so if if you like it's almost no Uh so if if you like it's almost no Uh so if if you like it's almost no matter what angle you come at it, I have matter what angle you come at it, I have matter what angle you come at it, I have a moral responsibility to do it. It's a a moral responsibility to do it. It's a a moral responsibility to do it. It's a beautiful thing to protect the people beautiful thing to protect the people beautiful thing to protect the people who are going to build the world for my who are going to build the world for my who are going to build the world for my kids. Um as a capitalist, uh just filthy kids. Um as a capitalist, uh just filthy kids. Um as a capitalist, uh just filthy capitalist, I need people that are happy capitalist, I need people that are happy capitalist, I need people that are happy and optimistic to sell to. Um, so and optimistic to sell to. Um, so and optimistic to sell to. Um, so almost no, no matter what angle you come almost no, no matter what angle you come almost no, no matter what angle you come at it from, unless you are in a purely at it from, unless you are in a purely at it from, unless you are in a purely extractive, short-term mindset, you extractive, short-term mindset, you extractive, short-term mindset, you realize, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we realize, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we realize, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we we can't eat the seeds that we're going we can't eat the seeds that we're going we can't eat the seeds that we're going to plant next year. We got to [ __ ] to plant next year. We got to [ __ ] to plant next year. We got to [ __ ] wait. We got to plant the crops. We've wait. We got to plant the crops. We've wait. We got to plant the crops. We've got to let them grow. got to let them grow. got to let them grow. >> And somewhere we lost that on the right >> And somewhere we lost that on the right >> And somewhere we lost that on the right and the left. And so that's why like and the left. And so that's why like and the left. And so that's why like when I say I'm enraged when I see Mom when I say I'm enraged when I see Mom when I say I'm enraged when I see Mom Donnie and AOC and Bernie just doing Donnie and AOC and Bernie just doing Donnie and AOC and Bernie just doing their best to break the economy. Um their best to break the economy. Um their best to break the economy. Um yeah, don't love it. And then when I see yeah, don't love it. And then when I see yeah, don't love it. And then when I see the wealthy like when I hear Donald the wealthy like when I hear Donald the wealthy like when I hear Donald Trump banging on about, bro, but the the Trump banging on about, bro, but the the Trump banging on about, bro, but the the uh the stock market's great. What are uh the stock market's great. What are uh the stock market's great. What are you guys complaining about, [ __ ] 10% you guys complaining about, [ __ ] 10% you guys complaining about, [ __ ] 10% of Americans own 93% of the assets. of Americans own 93% of the assets. of Americans own 93% of the assets. That's what the [ __ ] I'm complaining That's what the [ __ ] I'm complaining That's what the [ __ ] I'm complaining about. So it's wild. It's wild. It's a about. So it's wild. It's wild. It's a about. So it's wild. It's wild. It's a leadership problem which is both a good leadership problem which is both a good leadership problem which is both a good and bad discovery because that's a slow and bad discovery because that's a slow and bad discovery because that's a slow problem. That's a slow boat to shift. problem. That's a slow boat to shift. problem. That's a slow boat to shift. And we live in a country where the And we live in a country where the And we live in a country where the populace the popul the the populace not populace the popul the the populace not populace the popul the the populace not the populist but the populace determines the populist but the populace determines the populist but the populace determines the leadership. the leadership. the leadership. >> And now it goes back to what my concern >> And now it goes back to what my concern >> And now it goes back to what my concern was is that the vast majority of people was is that the vast majority of people was is that the vast majority of people are just too ignorant and complacent to are just too ignorant and complacent to are just too ignorant and complacent to change. And now you're combining a a change. And now you're combining a a change. And now you're combining a a time constraint, time constraint, time constraint, right? Nine years before implosion, a right? Nine years before implosion, a right? Nine years before implosion, a time constraint with a baseline starting time constraint with a baseline starting time constraint with a baseline starting place. And let's just say that my place. And let's just say that my place. And let's just say that my baseline starting place of the majority baseline starting place of the majority baseline starting place of the majority of Americans are too ignorant and of Americans are too ignorant and of Americans are too ignorant and complacent. Let's just say that that's complacent. Let's just say that that's complacent. Let's just say that that's an overstretch. Let's just say I'm only an overstretch. Let's just say I'm only an overstretch. Let's just say I'm only 50% correct. The baseline is still only 50% correct. The baseline is still only 50% correct. The baseline is still only 50% better. M like to hear us kind of both agree that like to hear us kind of both agree that there's so little that the average there's so little that the average there's so little that the average person can do person can do person can do that triggers survival instinct in that triggers survival instinct in that triggers survival instinct in people people people and they have to they have to decide if and they have to they have to decide if and they have to they have to decide if I'm going to put my resources into I'm going to put my resources into I'm going to put my resources into something am I going to put my resources something am I going to put my resources something am I going to put my resources into the public into the public into the public good or the individual good am I going good or the individual good am I going good or the individual good am I going to help the country survive I'm going to to help the country survive I'm going to to help the country survive I'm going to help the family survive Am I going to help the family survive Am I going to help the family survive Am I going to take care of my neighbor? Am I going to take care of my neighbor? Am I going to take care of my neighbor? Am I going to take care of myself? And once you put take care of myself? And once you put take care of myself? And once you put people into that position, the paleo the people into that position, the paleo the people into that position, the paleo the the paleomian brain of all of us is like the paleomian brain of all of us is like the paleomian brain of all of us is like maybe I'll do both, but I'm I'm more maybe I'll do both, but I'm I'm more maybe I'll do both, but I'm I'm more invested in the self than the group. invested in the self than the group. invested in the self than the group. >> In American culture, it's the opposite >> In American culture, it's the opposite >> In American culture, it's the opposite in Japanese culture like you were in Japanese culture like you were in Japanese culture like you were talking about, right? That collective talking about, right? That collective talking about, right? That collective culture believes that you sacrifice culture believes that you sacrifice culture believes that you sacrifice always. But that's not how Americans always. But that's not how Americans always. But that's not how Americans think. That's not how we think anymore think. That's not how we think anymore think. That's not how we think anymore for sure. So, for sure. So, for sure. So, I love hearing what you have to say. It I love hearing what you have to say. It I love hearing what you have to say. It makes me feel like there is a path makes me feel like there is a path makes me feel like there is a path forward, but there's these if then forward, but there's these if then forward, but there's these if then statements before the actual path statements before the actual path statements before the actual path forward is forward is forward is achievable. And I really hope that we achievable. And I really hope that we achievable. And I really hope that we can figure out those if then statements. can figure out those if then statements. can figure out those if then statements. Yeah, history says that we will have to Yeah, history says that we will have to Yeah, history says that we will have to suffer a tremendous amount before we do. suffer a tremendous amount before we do. suffer a tremendous amount before we do. I take some solace in the fact that I take some solace in the fact that I take some solace in the fact that Margaret Thatcher comes rapidly to power Margaret Thatcher comes rapidly to power Margaret Thatcher comes rapidly to power as they um really hit a financial snag as they um really hit a financial snag as they um really hit a financial snag >> and I think something similar will >> and I think something similar will >> and I think something similar will happen in the US. I just really hope it happen in the US. I just really hope it happen in the US. I just really hope it does not follow the following trend. does not follow the following trend. does not follow the following trend. >> Didn't you also say Hitler had a rapid >> Didn't you also say Hitler had a rapid >> Didn't you also say Hitler had a rapid rise to power because of a financial rise to power because of a financial rise to power because of a financial issue too. Mhm. It populist leaders, issue too. Mhm. It populist leaders, issue too. Mhm. It populist leaders, that's exactly how they are born, is you that's exactly how they are born, is you that's exactly how they are born, is you have some sort of tremendous economic have some sort of tremendous economic have some sort of tremendous economic disruption that causes people to disruption that causes people to disruption that causes people to essentially panic essentially panic essentially panic >> and then they just like a dazed fighter >> and then they just like a dazed fighter >> and then they just like a dazed fighter in the middle of the ring, they grab at in the middle of the ring, they grab at in the middle of the ring, they grab at the legs of the strong man and just say, the legs of the strong man and just say, the legs of the strong man and just say, "Keep me safe." "Keep me safe." "Keep me safe." >> So it Yeah, it gets wild really fast. >> So it Yeah, it gets wild really fast. >> So it Yeah, it gets wild really fast. The the weird position that we're in is The the weird position that we're in is The the weird position that we're in is half the country hates the other half of half the country hates the other half of half the country hates the other half of the country. the country. the country. >> And so we have to find some way back to >> And so we have to find some way back to >> And so we have to find some way back to the middle. Um, the middle. Um, the middle. Um, AI could be that if you want another AI could be that if you want another AI could be that if you want another white pill. Um, AI really is poised to white pill. Um, AI really is poised to white pill. Um, AI really is poised to it will disrupt a lot of jobs. There's it will disrupt a lot of jobs. There's it will disrupt a lot of jobs. There's no doubt. But the more time I spend with no doubt. But the more time I spend with no doubt. But the more time I spend with it, the more what it looks like is it's it, the more what it looks like is it's it, the more what it looks like is it's going to follow the trend of every going to follow the trend of every going to follow the trend of every technological revolution that came technological revolution that came technological revolution that came before it, which follows a pretty before it, which follows a pretty before it, which follows a pretty fascinating path. So, anybody investing, fascinating path. So, anybody investing, fascinating path. So, anybody investing, pay attention. Uh, so what ends up pay attention. Uh, so what ends up pay attention. Uh, so what ends up happening is you bring on this new happening is you bring on this new happening is you bring on this new technology. It has an insane amount of technology. It has an insane amount of technology. It has an insane amount of hype around it. It requires a massive hype around it. It requires a massive hype around it. It requires a massive economic buildout for the economic buildout for the economic buildout for the infrastructure. You get a wave of infrastructure. You get a wave of infrastructure. You get a wave of investors that go in on the first bit of investors that go in on the first bit of investors that go in on the first bit of infrastructure and then they basically infrastructure and then they basically infrastructure and then they basically all go broke because the delay between all go broke because the delay between all go broke because the delay between when you have to spend the money usually when you have to spend the money usually when you have to spend the money usually on debt to build out the infrastructure on debt to build out the infrastructure on debt to build out the infrastructure and when the revenue actually starts and when the revenue actually starts and when the revenue actually starts coming in, the gap is just too long. And coming in, the gap is just too long. And coming in, the gap is just too long. And so that first group gets wiped out. And so that first group gets wiped out. And so that first group gets wiped out. And so we're seeing now businesses pull away so we're seeing now businesses pull away so we're seeing now businesses pull away from AI. Anybody who reads that as AI from AI. Anybody who reads that as AI from AI. Anybody who reads that as AI was just all hype, it's nothing. Just was just all hype, it's nothing. Just was just all hype, it's nothing. Just follow the trend. This is what happens follow the trend. This is what happens follow the trend. This is what happens every time. And then over time, people every time. And then over time, people every time. And then over time, people get better at using the technology and get better at using the technology and get better at using the technology and all that. And then it ends up paying all that. And then it ends up paying all that. And then it ends up paying off. But it can take, you know, say 5 10 off. But it can take, you know, say 5 10 off. But it can take, you know, say 5 10 years longer than the debt was going to years longer than the debt was going to years longer than the debt was going to last before that blew up in people's last before that blew up in people's last before that blew up in people's faces. So that first wave is likely to faces. So that first wave is likely to faces. So that first wave is likely to get in trouble. Now we're doing the get in trouble. Now we're doing the get in trouble. Now we're doing the SpaceX IPO. I worry [snorts] that the SpaceX IPO. I worry [snorts] that the SpaceX IPO. I worry [snorts] that the normal market is just exit liquidity for normal market is just exit liquidity for normal market is just exit liquidity for that first wave of investors. So, we're that first wave of investors. So, we're that first wave of investors. So, we're going to have like a slightly different going to have like a slightly different going to have like a slightly different thing where the the like 1.5 wave of thing where the the like 1.5 wave of thing where the the like 1.5 wave of investors gets mowed over. There's a lot investors gets mowed over. There's a lot investors gets mowed over. There's a lot of stuff there that I don't like about of stuff there that I don't like about of stuff there that I don't like about how that's playing out, but it is what how that's playing out, but it is what how that's playing out, but it is what it is. It's people's own money. If they it is. It's people's own money. If they it is. It's people's own money. If they choose to invest without paying choose to invest without paying choose to invest without paying attention, that's on them. attention, that's on them. attention, that's on them. >> Uh, but so that's going to happen most >> Uh, but so that's going to happen most >> Uh, but so that's going to happen most likely. But the technology will become likely. But the technology will become likely. But the technology will become >> what people expect it to become. I mean, >> what people expect it to become. I mean, >> what people expect it to become. I mean, I'm seeing it already in my own I'm seeing it already in my own I'm seeing it already in my own business. It's extraordinary. It's business. It's extraordinary. It's business. It's extraordinary. It's completely transformational. It's completely transformational. It's completely transformational. It's amazing. Um, and so that is going to amazing. Um, and so that is going to amazing. Um, and so that is going to drive cost down. And while it will drive cost down. And while it will drive cost down. And while it will disrupt a bunch of jobs, it will create disrupt a bunch of jobs, it will create disrupt a bunch of jobs, it will create more jobs than it destroys. They're just more jobs than it destroys. They're just more jobs than it destroys. They're just jobs we can't predict right now. jobs we can't predict right now. jobs we can't predict right now. >> Um, the fact that you've become a >> Um, the fact that you've become a >> Um, the fact that you've become a millionaire off of a job description millionaire off of a job description millionaire off of a job description that didn't exist 20 years ago is that didn't exist 20 years ago is that didn't exist 20 years ago is already wild. already wild. already wild. >> And so that kind of thing is really >> And so that kind of thing is really >> And so that kind of thing is really fascinating. So AI is going to do fascinating. So AI is going to do fascinating. So AI is going to do similar things like that. It'll be similar things like that. It'll be similar things like that. It'll be things that we can't anticipate. Um but things that we can't anticipate. Um but things that we can't anticipate. Um but it's likely to create more opportunity it's likely to create more opportunity it's likely to create more opportunity than it erases until at which point you than it erases until at which point you than it erases until at which point you get artificial super intelligence. It's get artificial super intelligence. It's get artificial super intelligence. It's better than us at everything. But at better than us at everything. But at better than us at everything. But at that point you're probably looking at an that point you're probably looking at an that point you're probably looking at an age of abundance. age of abundance. age of abundance. >> And so now it's what Elon calls >> And so now it's what Elon calls >> And so now it's what Elon calls universal high income. Now I don't think universal high income. Now I don't think universal high income. Now I don't think that will change life very much in terms that will change life very much in terms that will change life very much in terms of the things that stress humans out. We of the things that stress humans out. We of the things that stress humans out. We will still play status games. we will will still play status games. we will will still play status games. we will still want more than the next person. We still want more than the next person. We still want more than the next person. We will want to be the ones that live uh on will want to be the ones that live uh on will want to be the ones that live uh on the hill overlooking the ocean. It's the hill overlooking the ocean. It's the hill overlooking the ocean. It's like it's just that's what humans want like it's just that's what humans want like it's just that's what humans want and there's always going to be a limited and there's always going to be a limited and there's always going to be a limited amount of that. And so people will come amount of that. And so people will come amount of that. And so people will come up with some new currency like thing up with some new currency like thing up with some new currency like thing that it's like I have more that it's like I have more that it's like I have more >> Pokemon cards, whatever. And so I get to >> Pokemon cards, whatever. And so I get to >> Pokemon cards, whatever. And so I get to buy the house in the hill overlooking buy the house in the hill overlooking buy the house in the hill overlooking the ocean, whatever. But it will um it the ocean, whatever. But it will um it the ocean, whatever. But it will um it has a shot of getting you there. And has a shot of getting you there. And has a shot of getting you there. And once you going back to the mechanisms of once you going back to the mechanisms of once you going back to the mechanisms of the economy, the way the economy works the economy, the way the economy works the economy, the way the economy works is that you can truly grow your way out is that you can truly grow your way out is that you can truly grow your way out of the debt problem. But to do that, you of the debt problem. But to do that, you of the debt problem. But to do that, you need more efficiencies. And this is why need more efficiencies. And this is why need more efficiencies. And this is why innovation is so important and why innovation is so important and why innovation is so important and why anybody that shits on innovation is just anybody that shits on innovation is just anybody that shits on innovation is just going to be number one on my hit list. going to be number one on my hit list. going to be number one on my hit list. You want people to innovate so that you You want people to innovate so that you You want people to innovate so that you can grow past some of this debts. But can grow past some of this debts. But can grow past some of this debts. But right now, for every dollar, new dollar right now, for every dollar, new dollar right now, for every dollar, new dollar that we raise in taxes, we spend an that we raise in taxes, we spend an that we raise in taxes, we spend an additional $1.58. M additional $1.58. M additional $1.58. M >> so as long as that ratio stays true, >> so as long as that ratio stays true, >> so as long as that ratio stays true, you'll never be able to grow out of the you'll never be able to grow out of the you'll never be able to grow out of the problem. And so we have a weird mental problem. And so we have a weird mental problem. And so we have a weird mental setup that people now expect to be taken setup that people now expect to be taken setup that people now expect to be taken care of by the state and that's suicide. care of by the state and that's suicide. care of by the state and that's suicide. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] >> If we implode in nine years, what are >> If we implode in nine years, what are >> If we implode in nine years, what are you going to do? >> Sips tea. [laughter] Uh I if it really >> Sips tea. [laughter] Uh I if it really gets dire, I will leave. my number one gets dire, I will leave. my number one gets dire, I will leave. my number one objective is to protect my wife. Um so objective is to protect my wife. Um so objective is to protect my wife. Um so while I really hope it doesn't come to while I really hope it doesn't come to while I really hope it doesn't come to that and I really hope that um I can be that and I really hope that um I can be that and I really hope that um I can be some small voice among a hopefully some small voice among a hopefully some small voice among a hopefully growing cadre of voices that are trying growing cadre of voices that are trying growing cadre of voices that are trying to make the machinery of economics to make the machinery of economics to make the machinery of economics >> um something people can make contact >> um something people can make contact >> um something people can make contact with and do something about. But if I with and do something about. But if I with and do something about. But if I can't pull that off or be useful in that can't pull that off or be useful in that can't pull that off or be useful in that way, uh then yeah, I'm thankfully way, uh then yeah, I'm thankfully way, uh then yeah, I'm thankfully wealthy and so I will pack up and catch wealthy and so I will pack up and catch wealthy and so I will pack up and catch that private flight out of Hanoi and be that private flight out of Hanoi and be that private flight out of Hanoi and be off somewhere nice where no mosquitoes off somewhere nice where no mosquitoes off somewhere nice where no mosquitoes at. And it makes me feel better. Wow, at. And it makes me feel better. Wow, at. And it makes me feel better. Wow, that's a second thing that makes me feel that's a second thing that makes me feel that's a second thing that makes me feel better about I have a very similar plan better about I have a very similar plan better about I have a very similar plan like bail and bail to a place with no like bail and bail to a place with no like bail and bail to a place with no mosquitoes. That's awesome. It's just uh mosquitoes. That's awesome. It's just uh mosquitoes. That's awesome. It's just uh it's it's encouraging to hear you say it's it's encouraging to hear you say it's it's encouraging to hear you say that because it's it's where I spend that because it's it's where I spend that because it's it's where I spend probably 30% of my thoughts right now. probably 30% of my thoughts right now. probably 30% of my thoughts right now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is in this whole do I stay, do I? Well, >> Is in this whole do I stay, do I? Well, >> Is in this whole do I stay, do I? Well, not do I stay, do I go? How and when not do I stay, do I go? How and when not do I stay, do I go? How and when >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> do I go? That's where my brain lives. >> do I go? That's where my brain lives. >> do I go? That's where my brain lives. And in a in a like shocking twist, And in a in a like shocking twist, And in a in a like shocking twist, the capture of Maduro changed the the capture of Maduro changed the the capture of Maduro changed the Venezuelan national relationship with Venezuelan national relationship with Venezuelan national relationship with the United States, which creates the United States, which creates the United States, which creates multiple opportunities in my universe multiple opportunities in my universe multiple opportunities in my universe that I never thought would have existed, that I never thought would have existed, that I never thought would have existed, right? So it it almost accelerates the right? So it it almost accelerates the right? So it it almost accelerates the whole plan about how to leave. whole plan about how to leave. whole plan about how to leave. But then as I look at leaving the United But then as I look at leaving the United But then as I look at leaving the United States, especially leaving the United States, especially leaving the United States, especially leaving the United States now that I have more wealth than States now that I have more wealth than States now that I have more wealth than my family had before me, it becomes a my family had before me, it becomes a my family had before me, it becomes a very difficult proposition because there very difficult proposition because there very difficult proposition because there are very real financial implications are very real financial implications are very real financial implications whether you find efficient ways to whether you find efficient ways to whether you find efficient ways to protect your wealth or not. So, it's protect your wealth or not. So, it's protect your wealth or not. So, it's just just just it sounds ludicrous to have wealthy it sounds ludicrous to have wealthy it sounds ludicrous to have wealthy people problems and so few people people problems and so few people people problems and so few people understand wealthy people problems and understand wealthy people problems and understand wealthy people problems and to even talk about wealthy people to even talk about wealthy people to even talk about wealthy people problems becomes like a you sound like problems becomes like a you sound like problems becomes like a you sound like an [ __ ] doing it, right? an [ __ ] doing it, right? an [ __ ] doing it, right? >> But the reality is the only way to >> But the reality is the only way to >> But the reality is the only way to really assure your own future is to really assure your own future is to really assure your own future is to become a person who can build wealth. become a person who can build wealth. become a person who can build wealth. And then the depressing fact is even And then the depressing fact is even And then the depressing fact is even when you build the wealth, you just open when you build the wealth, you just open when you build the wealth, you just open up a whole new set of problems. up a whole new set of problems. up a whole new set of problems. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's something I remember reading >> And it's something I remember reading >> And it's something I remember reading about when I was trying to build a about when I was trying to build a about when I was trying to build a business and now I'm there and it's business and now I'm there and it's business and now I'm there and it's still just as real as when I read about still just as real as when I read about still just as real as when I read about it. it. it. >> Yeah. Yeah. The thing that I'm really >> Yeah. Yeah. The thing that I'm really >> Yeah. Yeah. The thing that I'm really trying to get people to understand is trying to get people to understand is trying to get people to understand is the game of wealth is available to the game of wealth is available to the game of wealth is available to everybody. everybody. everybody. >> And I get that it's a scary game. >> And I get that it's a scary game. >> And I get that it's a scary game. There's a way to play it that's sort of There's a way to play it that's sort of There's a way to play it that's sort of the basic [ __ ] way. And if you just get the basic [ __ ] way. And if you just get the basic [ __ ] way. And if you just get in the market for 20, 30, 40 years, in the market for 20, 30, 40 years, in the market for 20, 30, 40 years, you're going to do very well. Caleb you're going to do very well. Caleb you're going to do very well. Caleb Hammer, who's a fascinating voice, if Hammer, who's a fascinating voice, if Hammer, who's a fascinating voice, if you don't know him yet, definitely look you don't know him yet, definitely look you don't know him yet, definitely look him up. Um, he was on Rogan and he was him up. Um, he was on Rogan and he was him up. Um, he was on Rogan and he was talking about how if you had invested in talking about how if you had invested in talking about how if you had invested in like 1990, um, so the average salary was like 1990, um, so the average salary was like 1990, um, so the average salary was like 20 grand. If you had invested, I like 20 grand. If you had invested, I like 20 grand. If you had invested, I forget what percentage, like 10% or forget what percentage, like 10% or forget what percentage, like 10% or something of your salary every time, um, something of your salary every time, um, something of your salary every time, um, you would now have like $2 and half you would now have like $2 and half you would now have like $2 and half million dollars or something. And so million dollars or something. And so million dollars or something. And so it's like, I get it, that's slow, you it's like, I get it, that's slow, you it's like, I get it, that's slow, you know, that's whatever 35, 36 years, but know, that's whatever 35, 36 years, but know, that's whatever 35, 36 years, but it's like you'd be a multi-millionaire. it's like you'd be a multi-millionaire. it's like you'd be a multi-millionaire. So, um, and you're only shaving off 10% So, um, and you're only shaving off 10% So, um, and you're only shaving off 10% of your income. So, people just have of your income. So, people just have of your income. So, people just have this like mental block. I did for years. this like mental block. I did for years. this like mental block. I did for years. My only retirement strategy was to get My only retirement strategy was to get My only retirement strategy was to get rich. rich. rich. >> Yeah, that was my retirement strategy, >> Yeah, that was my retirement strategy, >> Yeah, that was my retirement strategy, too. too. too. >> People used to make fun of me all the >> People used to make fun of me all the >> People used to make fun of me all the time, and I was like, "Bro, I do not time, and I was like, "Bro, I do not time, and I was like, "Bro, I do not understand the investing stuff. I don't understand the investing stuff. I don't understand the investing stuff. I don't want to think about the stock market. I want to think about the stock market. I want to think about the stock market. I don't don't don't >> I may not live that long. too slow. I >> I may not live that long. too slow. I >> I may not live that long. too slow. I had all those above. Yeah. [laughter] had all those above. Yeah. [laughter] had all those above. Yeah. [laughter] >> So, it was just like, well, I'm just >> So, it was just like, well, I'm just >> So, it was just like, well, I'm just going to get rich and that'll be that. going to get rich and that'll be that. going to get rich and that'll be that. And um And um And um >> now that I see, again, just going back >> now that I see, again, just going back >> now that I see, again, just going back to the mechanisms of how this stuff to the mechanisms of how this stuff to the mechanisms of how this stuff works, it's like I didn't realize that I works, it's like I didn't realize that I works, it's like I didn't realize that I was being inflated away. I thought was being inflated away. I thought was being inflated away. I thought inflation was a law of nature. I didn't inflation was a law of nature. I didn't inflation was a law of nature. I didn't realize that it was a thing that doesn't realize that it was a thing that doesn't realize that it was a thing that doesn't have to happen, that it's completely have to happen, that it's completely have to happen, that it's completely man-made. man-made. man-made. >> Um, so getting people to understand >> Um, so getting people to understand >> Um, so getting people to understand that, join the game of wealth now. Like that, join the game of wealth now. Like that, join the game of wealth now. Like if you hear us talking and we sound just if you hear us talking and we sound just if you hear us talking and we sound just like absolute douchebags, come join the like absolute douchebags, come join the like absolute douchebags, come join the douchery. It's much nicer on this side douchery. It's much nicer on this side douchery. It's much nicer on this side of the fence. of the fence. of the fence. >> You have more options. You have >> You have more options. You have >> You have more options. You have problems, but they're different problems, but they're different problems, but they're different problems. They're somehow more expensive problems. They're somehow more expensive problems. They're somehow more expensive problems, but they're fewer in number. problems, but they're fewer in number. problems, but they're fewer in number. >> Yeah. Also, once money isn't the driving >> Yeah. Also, once money isn't the driving >> Yeah. Also, once money isn't the driving like paranoia in your life, like paranoia in your life, like paranoia in your life, >> it it just there's a level of anxiety >> it it just there's a level of anxiety >> it it just there's a level of anxiety that falls away. And for if anybody is that falls away. And for if anybody is that falls away. And for if anybody is listening to this and you're meeting me listening to this and you're meeting me listening to this and you're meeting me for the first time, uh I have spent much for the first time, uh I have spent much for the first time, uh I have spent much more of my life not wealthy than I've more of my life not wealthy than I've more of my life not wealthy than I've spent wealthy. So I know what it's like spent wealthy. So I know what it's like spent wealthy. So I know what it's like intimately on the other side of the intimately on the other side of the intimately on the other side of the fence having to juggle different bills, fence having to juggle different bills, fence having to juggle different bills, pay some some month, some another month. pay some some month, some another month. pay some some month, some another month. Uh I know that all too well. So it is Uh I know that all too well. So it is Uh I know that all too well. So it is fascinating because that is 100% a fascinating because that is 100% a fascinating because that is 100% a mantra that I am trying to communicate mantra that I am trying to communicate mantra that I am trying to communicate with everyone is is you can become with everyone is is you can become with everyone is is you can become wealthy. It doesn't it's not rocket wealthy. It doesn't it's not rocket wealthy. It doesn't it's not rocket science. It is one of the few things science. It is one of the few things science. It is one of the few things that you can literally start doing that you can literally start doing that you can literally start doing today. You don't have to wait until the today. You don't have to wait until the today. You don't have to wait until the gym opens tomorrow. You don't have to gym opens tomorrow. You don't have to gym opens tomorrow. You don't have to wait until the paycheck comes in. Like, wait until the paycheck comes in. Like, wait until the paycheck comes in. Like, you can really start taking steps to to you can really start taking steps to to you can really start taking steps to to transform your wealth future transform your wealth future transform your wealth future immediately. And immediately. And immediately. And I don't see any way that you can build a I don't see any way that you can build a I don't see any way that you can build a more secure future for yourself than if more secure future for yourself than if more secure future for yourself than if you do it yourself. Because waiting for you do it yourself. Because waiting for you do it yourself. Because waiting for a future government leader is going to a future government leader is going to a future government leader is going to take a while. and waiting for a take a while. and waiting for a take a while. and waiting for a community of people that believe in the community of people that believe in the community of people that believe in the middle class is going to take a while. middle class is going to take a while. middle class is going to take a while. And you're gambling. You're you're And you're gambling. You're you're And you're gambling. You're you're risking your own future on other risking your own future on other risking your own future on other people's decisions and other people's people's decisions and other people's people's decisions and other people's actions if you do anything other than actions if you do anything other than actions if you do anything other than start building your wealth right now. start building your wealth right now. start building your wealth right now. >> Start learning. Start practicing. Start >> Start learning. Start practicing. Start >> Start learning. Start practicing. Start spend $113 and get an LLC in Florida. spend $113 and get an LLC in Florida. spend $113 and get an LLC in Florida. spend I think it's $85 to get an LLC in spend I think it's $85 to get an LLC in spend I think it's $85 to get an LLC in Florida. I don't know. Like there's so Florida. I don't know. Like there's so Florida. I don't know. 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If Trump were to leave the Middle East, basically were to leave the Middle East, basically were to leave the Middle East, basically the American empire would collapse. It's the American empire would collapse. It's the American empire would collapse. It's very risky to use military force to very risky to use military force to very risky to use military force to resolve an economic issue. It isn't resolve an economic issue. It isn't resolve an economic issue. It isn't enough.