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Thomas Massie Continues The Fight For Transparency Around The Epstein Files

In the age of overwhelming information and corruption revelations like the Epstein Files, the path forward isn't cynicism—it's skill acquisition. Use AI to map cause and effect in finance, business, and systems you don't understand. Ask 'why,' not just 'what.' The greatest time to be alive requires

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Impact Theory

Key Takeaway

In the age of overwhelming information and corruption revelations like the Epstein Files, the path forward isn't cynicism—it's skill acquisition. Use AI to map cause and effect in finance, business, and systems you don't understand. Ask 'why,' not just 'what.' The greatest time to be alive requires you to get better at understanding how things actually work, then master the current system while working to change it.

Episode Overview

This Tom Bilyeu Show episode dissects the social and psychological fallout from the Epstein Files release, examining how transparency overload can either paralyze or empower young generations. The hosts discuss Thomas Massie's efforts to force DOJ accountability, international political consequences (UK, Norway), and the broader threat to civic engagement when corruption appears unpunished. The conversation pivots to actionable optimism: leveraging AI for skill acquisition, understanding financial systems (asset ownership vs. saving), and the imperative to master current structures while advocating for reform. Key themes include combating cynicism, teaching youth agency despite systemic dysfunction, and using tools like Claude/AI to compress learning timelines 100-fold.

Main Insights

Transparency Without Accountability Breeds Generational Cynicism

Exposing corruption (like the Epstein Files) without prosecutions risks teaching young people that the system is irreparably broken, leading them to disengage rather than reform. This creates a dangerous 'mental model update' where youth lose faith in institutions and agency, making society vulnerable to competitors who maintain civic optimism and drive.

AI as a 100x Learning Accelerator

Using AI to map cause-and-effect relationships (not just get answers) compresses mastery timelines dramatically. Tom went from zero knowledge of Visual Studio to functional understanding in 50 minutes by iteratively asking 'why' and testing predictions. This applies to finance, coding, or any domain—AI removes gatekeepers if you focus on understanding systems.

Master the System Before You Change It

Complaining about the K-shaped economy or Federal Reserve without understanding asset ownership is performative. Learn how the current financial system works (like Wall Street Trapper did in prison), build wealth within it, then use that position and knowledge to advocate for reform. Moral high ground without strategic competence accomplishes nothing.

The Speech or Debate Clause as Democratic Leverage

The U.S. Constitution's Speech or Debate Clause grants Congress immunity from prosecution when disclosing classified info during legislative activity. Thomas Massie is weaponizing this to force DOJ transparency on Epstein Files, crowdsourcing which documents to review. This mechanism exists to check executive power—citizens should know how to mobilize it.

Falling Literacy Levels Signal Democratic Fragility

State of the Union addresses have declined from PhD-level language (1920s-30s) to 5th-6th grade level today. This isn't just dumbing down—it reflects actual comprehension capacity of the electorate. If citizens can't parse complex policy, they're vulnerable to manipulation via confusion (like Federal Reserve mechanics) rather than informed consent.

Notable Quotes

"You cannot raise kids on a steady diet if everything is fake. They're all liars. It's all everything top to bottom is all a hoax. and oh by the way sorry just take it like there's no sense of accountability. There's no sense of like and a bad thing is going to happen to these people who've done this."

Drew (co-host)

"The other option is we constantly drag everything out. Everybody stares at it and young people just go, 'Oh, everybody's bad. It's all corrupt everywhere and I'm not going to engage in a system that is beyond repair.'"

Tom Bilyeu

"We have to encourage the youth. We have to make them feel agency. We have to make them um long to be the untouchables that can untouchable the movie where it's like people who are beyond corruption and get a generation of people who have honor and integrity and as cheesy as that may sound to cynical ears. Like we we have to build that in."

Tom Bilyeu

"If you put time and energy into getting better at something, you will get better. And that matters because skills have utility."

Tom Bilyeu

"This is accessible, but people write it off. They want to protest. They want to [complain] instead of saying this is the system, so I'm going to go get good at this system."

Tom Bilyeu

Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.

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    Use AI to Map Cause-and-Effect, Not Just Get Answers

    When stuck on a problem (finance, coding, systems), screenshot or describe it to an AI like Claude. Don't ask 'What should I do?'—ask 'Why does this work this way?' Then test predictions iteratively to build genuine understanding. This approach compresses learning timelines 100x compared to traditional research.

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    Learn Asset Ownership Basics This Week

    The top 10% own 90% of assets, and the system is designed to compound their advantage. Spend 3 hours this week using AI or resources like Wall Street Trapper's channel to understand stocks, real estate, or other asset classes. The goal isn't to become rich overnight—it's to join the 10% that won't be left behind by inflation and monetary policy.

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    Practice 'Radical Optimism' Conversations with Youth

    When discussing Epstein Files or corruption with kids/teens, balance transparency with agency. Frame it as: 'Yes, this is broken. That's why YOUR generation needs to be the untouchables—people who understand systems, can't be corrupted, and have the skills to fix what's broken.' Don't let black pills win.

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    Crowdsource Transparency Like Massie

    If you care about an issue (Epstein Files, corporate corruption, etc.), study how Thomas Massie is using constitutional tools (Speech or Debate Clause) and public crowdsourcing (X polls) to force accountability. Citizens can amplify specific documents/questions to lawmakers who have subpoena power or investigative access.

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Good morning everybody. Welcome to the Good morning everybody. Welcome to the Tom Billier Show live. It is Monday and Tom Billier Show live. It is Monday and Tom Billier Show live. It is Monday and if you guys were anywhere near social if you guys were anywhere near social if you guys were anywhere near social media this weekend, I'm sorry. Uh man, media this weekend, I'm sorry. Uh man, media this weekend, I'm sorry. Uh man, in the Epstein file saga, Thomas Massie in the Epstein file saga, Thomas Massie in the Epstein file saga, Thomas Massie is threatening the DOJ with the nuclear is threatening the DOJ with the nuclear is threatening the DOJ with the nuclear option of revealing classified option of revealing classified option of revealing classified information if they do not unredact some information if they do not unredact some information if they do not unredact some of the most damning emails. Big tech is of the most damning emails. Big tech is of the most damning emails. Big tech is being taken to court over knowingly being taken to court over knowingly being taken to court over knowingly damaging the mental health of their damaging the mental health of their damaging the mental health of their users. Japan's prime minister's gambit users. Japan's prime minister's gambit users. Japan's prime minister's gambit to swing Japan to the right has paid off to swing Japan to the right has paid off to swing Japan to the right has paid off big time. Her party snatched up 75% big time. Her party snatched up 75% big time. Her party snatched up 75% of the seats in their parliament. And of the seats in their parliament. And of the seats in their parliament. And videos are coming out now of what they videos are coming out now of what they videos are coming out now of what they are calling the sushification of Japan are calling the sushification of Japan are calling the sushification of Japan where they will literally wrap up a where they will literally wrap up a where they will literally wrap up a foreigner that they think is behaving foreigner that they think is behaving foreigner that they think is behaving inappropriately and supposedly deporting inappropriately and supposedly deporting inappropriately and supposedly deporting them. More on that later. China has them. More on that later. China has them. More on that later. China has report China has reportedly told their report China has reportedly told their report China has reportedly told their banks to start reducing their exposure banks to start reducing their exposure banks to start reducing their exposure to US debt. This is another shot fired to US debt. This is another shot fired to US debt. This is another shot fired in the China US cold war and it will in the China US cold war and it will in the China US cold war and it will only further drive to dd dollararize the only further drive to dd dollararize the only further drive to dd dollararize the world. I know there's plenty of debate world. I know there's plenty of debate world. I know there's plenty of debate on that. We'll have some of it here on that. We'll have some of it here on that. We'll have some of it here today. A slew of cancer cures, this is today. A slew of cancer cures, this is today. A slew of cancer cures, this is the new uh conspiracy, are reportedly the new uh conspiracy, are reportedly the new uh conspiracy, are reportedly flooding the market now that the US has flooding the market now that the US has flooding the market now that the US has left the WHO and the long arm of big left the WHO and the long arm of big left the WHO and the long arm of big pharma is no longer able to stifle pharma is no longer able to stifle pharma is no longer able to stifle reports of this incredible cancer reports of this incredible cancer reports of this incredible cancer innovation. I've got a full breakdown on innovation. I've got a full breakdown on innovation. I've got a full breakdown on that and what I think is actually that and what I think is actually that and what I think is actually happening, which is definitely not as it happening, which is definitely not as it happening, which is definitely not as it is being represented. Huge breakthroughs is being represented. Huge breakthroughs is being represented. Huge breakthroughs are pouring out on the AI video front if are pouring out on the AI video front if are pouring out on the AI video front if you guys saw any of that. It was a very you guys saw any of that. It was a very you guys saw any of that. It was a very bright spot on a very strange weekend on bright spot on a very strange weekend on bright spot on a very strange weekend on social media. Uh, incredible. Definitely social media. Uh, incredible. Definitely social media. Uh, incredible. Definitely nerve-wracking for somebody like me, nerve-wracking for somebody like me, nerve-wracking for somebody like me, though that's in the creative field. Uh, though that's in the creative field. Uh, though that's in the creative field. Uh, but we've got some examples of that that but we've got some examples of that that but we've got some examples of that that I want you guys to see. Progress I want you guys to see. Progress I want you guys to see. Progress certainly has not slowed down. And Elon certainly has not slowed down. And Elon certainly has not slowed down. And Elon switches his focus from Mars to the switches his focus from Mars to the switches his focus from Mars to the moon, saying that given how much closer moon, saying that given how much closer moon, saying that given how much closer it is, he can iterate on a moon base it is, he can iterate on a moon base it is, he can iterate on a moon base much faster than he could iterate on a much faster than he could iterate on a much faster than he could iterate on a Mars base. But I have a feeling that Mars base. But I have a feeling that Mars base. But I have a feeling that quantum computing and energy regulations quantum computing and energy regulations quantum computing and energy regulations are the real reason that he's doing the are the real reason that he's doing the are the real reason that he's doing the switch. We're gonna get into all of that switch. We're gonna get into all of that switch. We're gonna get into all of that and more on today's episode. Drew, and more on today's episode. Drew, and more on today's episode. Drew, it was a wild one. Uh, the Epstein files it was a wild one. Uh, the Epstein files it was a wild one. Uh, the Epstein files have just completely consumed the entire have just completely consumed the entire have just completely consumed the entire world, literally world at this point. world, literally world at this point. world, literally world at this point. Uh, there was no way to escape it. Uh, there was no way to escape it. Uh, there was no way to escape it. Thomas Massie somehow managing, not Thomas Massie somehow managing, not Thomas Massie somehow managing, not somehow, like he's the guy that's somehow, like he's the guy that's somehow, like he's the guy that's driving all of this stuff. It's pretty driving all of this stuff. It's pretty driving all of this stuff. It's pretty crazy, but uh, put himself at the center crazy, but uh, put himself at the center crazy, but uh, put himself at the center of this. AI fakes, deep fakes flying of this. AI fakes, deep fakes flying of this. AI fakes, deep fakes flying everywhere. I was ready to go on one everywhere. I was ready to go on one everywhere. I was ready to go on one today. you were like, "Ah, wait. Uh, today. you were like, "Ah, wait. Uh, today. you were like, "Ah, wait. Uh, that one's not real." I couldn't believe that one's not real." I couldn't believe that one's not real." I couldn't believe it. So, uh, it's it is certainly getting it. So, uh, it's it is certainly getting it. So, uh, it's it is certainly getting crazy out there with the narratives that crazy out there with the narratives that crazy out there with the narratives that people are spinning up using AI. It is people are spinning up using AI. It is people are spinning up using AI. It is only going to get worse given some of only going to get worse given some of only going to get worse given some of the updates that we'll show people, but the updates that we'll show people, but the updates that we'll show people, but >> Oh, buddy. >> Oh, buddy. >> Oh, buddy. >> I was um grilling wings, drinking a >> I was um grilling wings, drinking a >> I was um grilling wings, drinking a Michelob watching um the Seahawks Michelob watching um the Seahawks Michelob watching um the Seahawks trounce the Patriots. trounce the Patriots. trounce the Patriots. >> Yeah, buddy. >> Yeah, buddy. >> Yeah, buddy. >> And my 14-year-old daughter was like, >> And my 14-year-old daughter was like, >> And my 14-year-old daughter was like, "Hey, Dad, have you guys talked about "Hey, Dad, have you guys talked about "Hey, Dad, have you guys talked about the Epstein Files?" the Epstein Files?" the Epstein Files?" >> Are you serious? >> Are you serious? >> Are you serious? >> I was like, "Yeah, yeah, we have." She's >> I was like, "Yeah, yeah, we have." She's >> I was like, "Yeah, yeah, we have." She's like, "Did you see the one about Donald like, "Did you see the one about Donald like, "Did you see the one about Donald Trump?" And I was like, "Yes." And then Trump?" And I was like, "Yes." And then Trump?" And I was like, "Yes." And then she started to talk about, "Yeah." And she started to talk about, "Yeah." And she started to talk about, "Yeah." And like, "What's happening? How come like, "What's happening? How come like, "What's happening? How come nobody's going to jail? Like, what's nobody's going to jail? Like, what's nobody's going to jail? Like, what's >> And I was just like in that moment, I >> And I was just like in that moment, I >> And I was just like in that moment, I felt very very small because I've really felt very very small because I've really felt very very small because I've really had no like I had no I had nothing to had no like I had no I had nothing to had no like I had no I had nothing to tell her. Like, yes, tell her. Like, yes, tell her. Like, yes, >> we should be doing something." And it it >> we should be doing something." And it it >> we should be doing something." And it it is bad. But so, God bless. is bad. But so, God bless. is bad. But so, God bless. >> We talked about this. >> We talked about this. >> We talked about this. >> Yeah. this framing what you're talking >> Yeah. this framing what you're talking >> Yeah. this framing what you're talking about now is my like I'm gonna give about now is my like I'm gonna give about now is my like I'm gonna give everybody a rundown of the facts. But everybody a rundown of the facts. But everybody a rundown of the facts. But that's where I think we pick up the that's where I think we pick up the that's where I think we pick up the conversation once we get on the other conversation once we get on the other conversation once we get on the other side of that there. This is going to side of that there. This is going to side of that there. This is going to disrupt the mental model of young people disrupt the mental model of young people disrupt the mental model of young people in a way that I don't think anybody in a way that I don't think anybody in a way that I don't think anybody understands how it's going to echo for understands how it's going to echo for understands how it's going to echo for decades to come. decades to come. decades to come. >> You cannot raise kids on a steady diet >> You cannot raise kids on a steady diet >> You cannot raise kids on a steady diet if everything is fake. They're all if everything is fake. They're all if everything is fake. They're all liars. It's all everything top to bottom liars. It's all everything top to bottom liars. It's all everything top to bottom is all a hoax. and oh by the way sorry is all a hoax. and oh by the way sorry is all a hoax. and oh by the way sorry just take it like there's no sense of just take it like there's no sense of just take it like there's no sense of accountability. There's no sense of like accountability. There's no sense of like accountability. There's no sense of like and a bad thing is going to happen to and a bad thing is going to happen to and a bad thing is going to happen to these people who've done this. It's like these people who've done this. It's like these people who've done this. It's like the cockroaches scattering and once the cockroaches scattering and once the cockroaches scattering and once they're out of sight are we really all they're out of sight are we really all they're out of sight are we really all just going to walk on? We're th this is just going to walk on? We're th this is just going to walk on? We're th this is really a dangerous moment and it's really a dangerous moment and it's really a dangerous moment and it's dangerous no matter how it plays out dangerous no matter how it plays out dangerous no matter how it plays out because if it plays out that because if it plays out that because if it plays out that >> we let the cockroaches scurry back under >> we let the cockroaches scurry back under >> we let the cockroaches scurry back under and then we fool ourselves into thinking and then we fool ourselves into thinking and then we fool ourselves into thinking that whatever the architecture of the that whatever the architecture of the that whatever the architecture of the human mind is that leads to that human mind is that leads to that human mind is that leads to that >> um we're going to get blindsided again >> um we're going to get blindsided again >> um we're going to get blindsided again and we will just go back to sleep and we will just go back to sleep and we will just go back to sleep despite being in an information overload despite being in an information overload despite being in an information overload era. Uh and I do worry that some era. Uh and I do worry that some era. Uh and I do worry that some people's response to having visibility people's response to having visibility people's response to having visibility into virtually everything is going to be into virtually everything is going to be into virtually everything is going to be I'm just not going to look. I'm just not going to look. I'm just not going to look. >> Uh and so that means that we are going >> Uh and so that means that we are going >> Uh and so that means that we are going to be um to be um to be um predated on by just the information predated on by just the information predated on by just the information overload. overload. overload. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The other option is we constantly drag >> The other option is we constantly drag >> The other option is we constantly drag everything out. Everybody stares at it everything out. Everybody stares at it everything out. Everybody stares at it and young people just go, "Oh, and young people just go, "Oh, and young people just go, "Oh, everybody's bad. It's all corrupt everybody's bad. It's all corrupt everybody's bad. It's all corrupt everywhere and I'm not going to engage everywhere and I'm not going to engage everywhere and I'm not going to engage in a system that is beyond repair. And in a system that is beyond repair. And in a system that is beyond repair. And if we get to the I'm not going to engage if we get to the I'm not going to engage if we get to the I'm not going to engage in a system that is beyond repair in a system that is beyond repair in a system that is beyond repair moment, um that is that is devastating moment, um that is that is devastating moment, um that is that is devastating for a country that is in economic woes. for a country that is in economic woes. for a country that is in economic woes. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> And so yeah, this becomes interesting >> And so yeah, this becomes interesting >> And so yeah, this becomes interesting and it it it is a fascinating and it it it is a fascinating and it it it is a fascinating moment for me as I try to model what's moment for me as I try to model what's moment for me as I try to model what's going to happen between us and China, going to happen between us and China, going to happen between us and China, what's happening with us in debt, like what's happening with us in debt, like what's happening with us in debt, like all the demographic problems that we all the demographic problems that we all the demographic problems that we have that China has, have that China has, have that China has, >> the way that immigration plugs into >> the way that immigration plugs into >> the way that immigration plugs into this, and then if we disempower an this, and then if we disempower an this, and then if we disempower an entire generation by saying either don't entire generation by saying either don't entire generation by saying either don't pay attention to this, it's too icky. pay attention to this, it's too icky. pay attention to this, it's too icky. It's too overwhelming. or like uh A It's too overwhelming. or like uh A It's too overwhelming. or like uh A Clockwork Orange where we hold their Clockwork Orange where we hold their Clockwork Orange where we hold their eyes open and we force them to watch it eyes open and we force them to watch it eyes open and we force them to watch it until they vomit. That's not going to until they vomit. That's not going to until they vomit. That's not going to inspire them to engage. And so there inspire them to engage. And so there inspire them to engage. And so there will be a malaise will be a malaise will be a malaise uh that will make us vulnerable to uh that will make us vulnerable to uh that will make us vulnerable to whatever country is able to maintain a whatever country is able to maintain a whatever country is able to maintain a sense of agency and we can do this and sense of agency and we can do this and sense of agency and we can do this and we can be the best. That's the thing we can be the best. That's the thing we can be the best. That's the thing that as I was looking at it, it's like that as I was looking at it, it's like that as I was looking at it, it's like yes, the surface of the Epstein is yes, the surface of the Epstein is yes, the surface of the Epstein is critical. We have to get it right. critical. We have to get it right. critical. We have to get it right. People have to be prosecuted. They have People have to be prosecuted. They have People have to be prosecuted. They have to go to prison. to go to prison. to go to prison. But there's another part of this where But there's another part of this where But there's another part of this where we have to encourage the youth. We have we have to encourage the youth. We have we have to encourage the youth. We have to make them feel agency. We have to to make them feel agency. We have to to make them feel agency. We have to make them um long to be the untouchables make them um long to be the untouchables make them um long to be the untouchables that can untouchable the movie where that can untouchable the movie where that can untouchable the movie where it's like people who are beyond it's like people who are beyond it's like people who are beyond corruption corruption corruption >> and get a generation of people who have >> and get a generation of people who have >> and get a generation of people who have honor and integrity and as cheesy as honor and integrity and as cheesy as honor and integrity and as cheesy as that may sound to cynical ears. Like we that may sound to cynical ears. Like we that may sound to cynical ears. Like we we have to build that in. We have to fan we have to build that in. We have to fan we have to build that in. We have to fan those flames. And I worry that we're those flames. And I worry that we're those flames. And I worry that we're just going to let this generation be just going to let this generation be just going to let this generation be written off. written off. written off. >> Um, so very grateful for people like >> Um, so very grateful for people like >> Um, so very grateful for people like you, parents that are engaging directly you, parents that are engaging directly you, parents that are engaging directly with their kids and understand like the with their kids and understand like the with their kids and understand like the mental framework of like, hm, I need you mental framework of like, hm, I need you mental framework of like, hm, I need you to be optimistic and to be optimistic and to be optimistic and >> really go after your dreams, etc., etc. >> really go after your dreams, etc., etc. >> really go after your dreams, etc., etc. Okay. Anyway, I was originally going to Okay. Anyway, I was originally going to Okay. Anyway, I was originally going to go through the facts first, but go through the facts first, but go through the facts first, but >> No. Yeah. No, that that's good, though. >> No. Yeah. No, that that's good, though. >> No. Yeah. No, that that's good, though. But that sets us up to what you're about But that sets us up to what you're about But that sets us up to what you're about to go to, cuz I'm grateful for somebody to go to, cuz I'm grateful for somebody to go to, cuz I'm grateful for somebody like Thomas Massie that at least he's like Thomas Massie that at least he's like Thomas Massie that at least he's like, "This isn't going away. we do need like, "This isn't going away. we do need like, "This isn't going away. we do need to talk about this. You release 3 to talk about this. You release 3 to talk about this. You release 3 million. There's still stuff um that million. There's still stuff um that million. There's still stuff um that hasn't been released. Let's let's finish hasn't been released. Let's let's finish hasn't been released. Let's let's finish this. Let's not give me 30% and then this. Let's not give me 30% and then this. Let's not give me 30% and then think I'm going to be okay with it. So, think I'm going to be okay with it. So, think I'm going to be okay with it. So, >> at least somebody's trying to stand up >> at least somebody's trying to stand up >> at least somebody's trying to stand up and like rattle the cages, you know, and like rattle the cages, you know, and like rattle the cages, you know, >> for sure and >> for sure and >> for sure and >> is apparently not going away [laughter] >> is apparently not going away [laughter] >> is apparently not going away [laughter] though they want him to. Uh but it's though they want him to. Uh but it's though they want him to. Uh but it's wild some of the stuff that's being wild some of the stuff that's being wild some of the stuff that's being unredacted. If you guys aren't paying unredacted. If you guys aren't paying unredacted. If you guys aren't paying attention to this whole thing, it it is attention to this whole thing, it it is attention to this whole thing, it it is really lunacy. It is the answer to the really lunacy. It is the answer to the really lunacy. It is the answer to the question of what happens in the social question of what happens in the social question of what happens in the social media age when we have some just media age when we have some just media age when we have some just absolutely astronomical revelation. absolutely astronomical revelation. absolutely astronomical revelation. Can we silence the masses simply by Can we silence the masses simply by Can we silence the masses simply by overwhelming them? And Thomas Massie is overwhelming them? And Thomas Massie is overwhelming them? And Thomas Massie is not going to let that game be played. not going to let that game be played. not going to let that game be played. And he potentially is about to blow the And he potentially is about to blow the And he potentially is about to blow the lid off the Epstein Files in a way that lid off the Epstein Files in a way that lid off the Epstein Files in a way that pushes things even further. the Kentucky pushes things even further. the Kentucky pushes things even further. the Kentucky congressman, if you guys don't know who congressman, if you guys don't know who congressman, if you guys don't know who he is, he co-authored the Epstein Files he is, he co-authored the Epstein Files he is, he co-authored the Epstein Files Transparency Act. He plans to personally Transparency Act. He plans to personally Transparency Act. He plans to personally walk into the Department of Justice walk into the Department of Justice walk into the Department of Justice today to review unredacted files. Please today to review unredacted files. Please today to review unredacted files. Please ignore the uh deep fake that showed him ignore the uh deep fake that showed him ignore the uh deep fake that showed him saying that people had sent him the saying that people had sent him the saying that people had sent him the unredacted files. There's a community unredacted files. There's a community unredacted files. There's a community note on that post now that does appear note on that post now that does appear note on that post now that does appear to be entirely fake. But he is going to to be entirely fake. But he is going to to be entirely fake. But he is going to the DOJ today and he's threatening to the DOJ today and he's threatening to the DOJ today and he's threatening to execute what he's calling the nuclear execute what he's calling the nuclear execute what he's calling the nuclear option of reading the names out loud option of reading the names out loud option of reading the names out loud himself on the floor of Congress if the himself on the floor of Congress if the himself on the floor of Congress if the DOJ doesn't unredact some of the names DOJ doesn't unredact some of the names DOJ doesn't unredact some of the names that they're actively hiding right now that they're actively hiding right now that they're actively hiding right now in some of the most grotesque emails. in some of the most grotesque emails. in some of the most grotesque emails. Emails, these were the two most Emails, these were the two most Emails, these were the two most horrifying examples for me. uh emails horrifying examples for me. uh emails horrifying examples for me. uh emails that just said there's an image or video that just said there's an image or video that just said there's an image or video file attached and it said um age 10, age file attached and it said um age 10, age file attached and it said um age 10, age 11, the two different um emails. Why 11, the two different um emails. Why 11, the two different um emails. Why would you redact the name on that? would you redact the name on that? would you redact the name on that? Presumably that's not being sent by a Presumably that's not being sent by a Presumably that's not being sent by a victim, that's being sent by a victim, that's being sent by a victim, that's being sent by a perpetrator. So things like that feel um perpetrator. So things like that feel um perpetrator. So things like that feel um they throw into question entirely what they throw into question entirely what they throw into question entirely what process they are using to redact these process they are using to redact these process they are using to redact these names. Uh now all of this is possible names. Uh now all of this is possible names. Uh now all of this is possible because of the fact that Massie can go because of the fact that Massie can go because of the fact that Massie can go potentially reveal classified potentially reveal classified potentially reveal classified information is possible because of information is possible because of information is possible because of what's known as the speech or debate what's known as the speech or debate what's known as the speech or debate clause in the US Constitution. It clause in the US Constitution. It clause in the US Constitution. It provides members of Congress with provides members of Congress with provides members of Congress with immunity from prosecution for revealing immunity from prosecution for revealing immunity from prosecution for revealing classified info if the disclosure occurs classified info if the disclosure occurs classified info if the disclosure occurs as part of legitimate legislative as part of legitimate legislative as part of legitimate legislative activity such as speeches or debates on activity such as speeches or debates on activity such as speeches or debates on the floor of the House or Senate or in the floor of the House or Senate or in the floor of the House or Senate or in committee proceedings and hearings. Um, committee proceedings and hearings. Um, committee proceedings and hearings. Um, now given how many documents there are now given how many documents there are now given how many documents there are for Massie to load up as ammunition to for Massie to load up as ammunition to for Massie to load up as ammunition to go and read on the floor, Massiey's go and read on the floor, Massiey's go and read on the floor, Massiey's actually crowdsourcing his followers on actually crowdsourcing his followers on actually crowdsourcing his followers on X for which files he should look at when X for which files he should look at when X for which files he should look at when he gets to the DOJ. So people were he gets to the DOJ. So people were he gets to the DOJ. So people were Candace Owens got in the mix like people Candace Owens got in the mix like people Candace Owens got in the mix like people were throwing things and saying, "All were throwing things and saying, "All were throwing things and saying, "All right, these are the whatever top 10, right, these are the whatever top 10, right, these are the whatever top 10, top 20 things that we want to see people top 20 things that we want to see people top 20 things that we want to see people look at." And he said he's just going to look at." And he said he's just going to look at." And he said he's just going to go off of what gets upvoted the most. So go off of what gets upvoted the most. So go off of what gets upvoted the most. So we'll see which ones he zeros in on. But we'll see which ones he zeros in on. But we'll see which ones he zeros in on. But yeah, some of the ones that were getting yeah, some of the ones that were getting yeah, some of the ones that were getting upvoted are the ones. So, this is going upvoted are the ones. So, this is going upvoted are the ones. So, this is going to get uh dramatic before it settles to get uh dramatic before it settles to get uh dramatic before it settles down. Now, needless to say, in the down. Now, needless to say, in the down. Now, needless to say, in the middle of all this, the Trump admin, middle of all this, the Trump admin, middle of all this, the Trump admin, which has repeatedly tried to make the which has repeatedly tried to make the which has repeatedly tried to make the Epstein files just quietly go away. Epstein files just quietly go away. Epstein files just quietly go away. There's nothing to see here, uh they are There's nothing to see here, uh they are There's nothing to see here, uh they are enraged about Thomas Massie and enraged about Thomas Massie and enraged about Thomas Massie and everything that he's doing. And everything that he's doing. And everything that he's doing. And according to Massie himself, and I can't according to Massie himself, and I can't according to Massie himself, and I can't believe this, actually, I can now I can believe this, actually, I can now I can believe this, actually, I can now I can I can believe this is true. He claims I can believe this is true. He claims I can believe this is true. He claims someone from Cash Patel's FBI threatened someone from Cash Patel's FBI threatened someone from Cash Patel's FBI threatened to run a fraud investigation on one of to run a fraud investigation on one of to run a fraud investigation on one of Thomas Massiey's staffers if Massie Thomas Massiey's staffers if Massie Thomas Massiey's staffers if Massie didn't start to, in Massiey's words, didn't start to, in Massiey's words, didn't start to, in Massiey's words, play ball. Uh the Trump actually himself play ball. Uh the Trump actually himself play ball. Uh the Trump actually himself recently called Massie a [ __ ] at the recently called Massie a [ __ ] at the recently called Massie a [ __ ] at the National Prayer Breakfast. And on Friday National Prayer Breakfast. And on Friday National Prayer Breakfast. And on Friday night, if you guys haven't seen this night, if you guys haven't seen this night, if you guys haven't seen this video, check it out. Uh it's it was at a video, check it out. Uh it's it was at a video, check it out. Uh it's it was at a Kentucky GOP dinner. the state house Kentucky GOP dinner. the state house Kentucky GOP dinner. the state house speaker and another woman who I didn't speaker and another woman who I didn't speaker and another woman who I didn't uh do enough research to find out who uh do enough research to find out who uh do enough research to find out who she was, but they were standing next to she was, but they were standing next to she was, but they were standing next to Massie. Look at the video. They're Massie. Look at the video. They're Massie. Look at the video. They're literally just flanking him literally just flanking him literally just flanking him uncomfortably close, obviously trying to uncomfortably close, obviously trying to uncomfortably close, obviously trying to sweat him hard enough that he'll just sweat him hard enough that he'll just sweat him hard enough that he'll just end his speech. And Massie was telling end his speech. And Massie was telling end his speech. And Massie was telling people, "Listen, I work for you. I don't people, "Listen, I work for you. I don't people, "Listen, I work for you. I don't work for the president. I work for you." work for the president. I work for you." work for the president. I work for you." Uh and then finally, he had to walk off Uh and then finally, he had to walk off Uh and then finally, he had to walk off because they were uh pestering him so because they were uh pestering him so because they were uh pestering him so much. Now, they did not physically take much. Now, they did not physically take much. Now, they did not physically take the microphone away from him as many the microphone away from him as many the microphone away from him as many people have reported. Uh but it is very people have reported. Uh but it is very people have reported. Uh but it is very clear that they did not like what he was clear that they did not like what he was clear that they did not like what he was saying and they wanted him to wrap up saying and they wanted him to wrap up saying and they wanted him to wrap up immediately. Video of the incident went immediately. Video of the incident went immediately. Video of the incident went viral and Trump's political machine went viral and Trump's political machine went viral and Trump's political machine went into overdrive. Uh they started into overdrive. Uh they started into overdrive. Uh they started endorsing Massiey's primary challenger endorsing Massiey's primary challenger endorsing Massiey's primary challenger with millions in campaign support. But with millions in campaign support. But with millions in campaign support. But Massie is not backing down. On CNN he Massie is not backing down. On CNN he Massie is not backing down. On CNN he called on Commerce Secretary Howard called on Commerce Secretary Howard called on Commerce Secretary Howard Letic to resign. Now, if you guys Letic to resign. Now, if you guys Letic to resign. Now, if you guys haven't looked at the Epstein files, haven't looked at the Epstein files, haven't looked at the Epstein files, Lutnik is all over that damn thing. Uh, Lutnik is all over that damn thing. Uh, Lutnik is all over that damn thing. Uh, and while he told uh people on a and while he told uh people on a and while he told uh people on a podcast, I think it was last year, that podcast, I think it was last year, that podcast, I think it was last year, that he had cut ties with Epstein in 2005, he had cut ties with Epstein in 2005, he had cut ties with Epstein in 2005, the Files, they say otherwise. A New the Files, they say otherwise. A New the Files, they say otherwise. A New York Times analysis shows they were in York Times analysis shows they were in York Times analysis shows they were in touch for years after uh the conviction. touch for years after uh the conviction. touch for years after uh the conviction. Um, drinks in 2011, boat coordinates to Um, drinks in 2011, boat coordinates to Um, drinks in 2011, boat coordinates to Epstein's Island in 2012, a joint Epstein's Island in 2012, a joint Epstein's Island in 2012, a joint business investment, correspondence as business investment, correspondence as business investment, correspondence as late as 2018. Now, Massiey's take was, late as 2018. Now, Massiey's take was, late as 2018. Now, Massiey's take was, "Hey, Howard Lutnik, clearly you went to "Hey, Howard Lutnik, clearly you went to "Hey, Howard Lutnik, clearly you went to the island." He was in business with the island." He was in business with the island." He was in business with Epstein uh many years after Epstein was Epstein uh many years after Epstein was Epstein uh many years after Epstein was convicted, and he wants Howard Lutnik to convicted, and he wants Howard Lutnik to convicted, and he wants Howard Lutnik to just make life easier on the president just make life easier on the president just make life easier on the president and just resign. Now, he's right that if and just resign. Now, he's right that if and just resign. Now, he's right that if this were Great Britain, he'd already be this were Great Britain, he'd already be this were Great Britain, he'd already be gone. And I have to admit, the Great gone. And I have to admit, the Great gone. And I have to admit, the Great Britain comparison is a very good one. Britain comparison is a very good one. Britain comparison is a very good one. The international fallout from the The international fallout from the The international fallout from the Epstein files has been staggering, which Epstein files has been staggering, which Epstein files has been staggering, which begs the question, why is it not here in begs the question, why is it not here in begs the question, why is it not here in America? But take Peter Mendelson, uh, America? But take Peter Mendelson, uh, America? But take Peter Mendelson, uh, the now former UK cabinet minister and the now former UK cabinet minister and the now former UK cabinet minister and until recently Britain's ambassador to until recently Britain's ambassador to until recently Britain's ambassador to the United States. He's resigned from the United States. He's resigned from the United States. He's resigned from the Labor Party, resigned from the House the Labor Party, resigned from the House the Labor Party, resigned from the House of Lords, and recently had two of his of Lords, and recently had two of his of Lords, and recently had two of his properties raided by police. He's under properties raided by police. He's under properties raided by police. He's under criminal investigation for allegedly criminal investigation for allegedly criminal investigation for allegedly leaking classified government documents leaking classified government documents leaking classified government documents to Epstein during the 2008 financial to Epstein during the 2008 financial to Epstein during the 2008 financial crisis, tipping him off to a 500 billion crisis, tipping him off to a 500 billion crisis, tipping him off to a 500 billion euro bank bailout, forwarding internal euro bank bailout, forwarding internal euro bank bailout, forwarding internal memos, and emailing Epste the day the memos, and emailing Epste the day the memos, and emailing Epste the day the prime minister resigned. Bank records prime minister resigned. Bank records prime minister resigned. Bank records suggest Epste paid $75,000 suggest Epste paid $75,000 suggest Epste paid $75,000 into a Mandlesson linked account or into a Mandlesson linked account or into a Mandlesson linked account or multiple accounts. The maximum sentence, multiple accounts. The maximum sentence, multiple accounts. The maximum sentence, if he's convicted of this, is life in if he's convicted of this, is life in if he's convicted of this, is life in prison. Wow. Yeah. Norway is also in prison. Wow. Yeah. Norway is also in prison. Wow. Yeah. Norway is also in full crisis. The crown princess, you full crisis. The crown princess, you full crisis. The crown princess, you know, the future queen. Well, she's know, the future queen. Well, she's know, the future queen. Well, she's mentioned over a thousand times in the mentioned over a thousand times in the mentioned over a thousand times in the files. She called Epstein sweetheart in files. She called Epstein sweetheart in files. She called Epstein sweetheart in 2012 emails. And listen, calling a 2012 emails. And listen, calling a 2012 emails. And listen, calling a scumbag uh endearing names does not mean scumbag uh endearing names does not mean scumbag uh endearing names does not mean that you know what he did or that you that you know what he did or that you that you know what he did or that you were involved. But damn, four years were involved. But damn, four years were involved. But damn, four years after his sex crime conviction, she was after his sex crime conviction, she was after his sex crime conviction, she was still saying this stuff. Nearly half of still saying this stuff. Nearly half of still saying this stuff. Nearly half of Norwegians now say she should not be Norwegians now say she should not be Norwegians now say she should not be allowed to become queen. Former Prime allowed to become queen. Former Prime allowed to become queen. Former Prime Minister Thorn Thorbjorn Jagland is also Minister Thorn Thorbjorn Jagland is also Minister Thorn Thorbjorn Jagland is also under criminal investigation for under criminal investigation for under criminal investigation for corruption linked to Epstein. The CEO of corruption linked to Epstein. The CEO of corruption linked to Epstein. The CEO of the World Economic Forum is also under the World Economic Forum is also under the World Economic Forum is also under internal review. All across Europe, internal review. All across Europe, internal review. All across Europe, officials are falling, but in the US, officials are falling, but in the US, officials are falling, but in the US, nothing yet. Now, there's still a lot nothing yet. Now, there's still a lot nothing yet. Now, there's still a lot more files to come, so fingers crossed. more files to come, so fingers crossed. more files to come, so fingers crossed. We can always hope. But so far, Cash We can always hope. But so far, Cash We can always hope. But so far, Cash Patel, I had to look this up because I Patel, I had to look this up because I Patel, I had to look this up because I had really hoped that this was like P had really hoped that this was like P had really hoped that this was like P and that we'd moved on from this. But and that we'd moved on from this. But and that we'd moved on from this. But Cash Patel told us, as you guys know, a Cash Patel told us, as you guys know, a Cash Patel told us, as you guys know, a while ago, that the FBI's internal while ago, that the FBI's internal while ago, that the FBI's internal review found no trafficking ring uh review found no trafficking ring uh review found no trafficking ring uh serving elites, and they're standing by serving elites, and they're standing by serving elites, and they're standing by it. No client list. Uh-huh. Deputy AG it. No client list. Uh-huh. Deputy AG it. No client list. Uh-huh. Deputy AG Blanch says, uh, new charges are Blanch says, uh, new charges are Blanch says, uh, new charges are unlikely. The DOJ has released only half unlikely. The DOJ has released only half unlikely. The DOJ has released only half the documents roughly I think we're at the documents roughly I think we're at the documents roughly I think we're at 3.3 million something like that out of 3.3 million something like that out of 3.3 million something like that out of six million total reported and the pages six million total reported and the pages six million total reported and the pages they did release were so badly handled they did release were so badly handled they did release were so badly handled that victim names were left exposed that victim names were left exposed that victim names were left exposed while the names of powerful men were while the names of powerful men were while the names of powerful men were blacked out. Survivors and average blacked out. Survivors and average blacked out. Survivors and average people alike are obviously furious about people alike are obviously furious about people alike are obviously furious about this. Now coming up Maxwell Gain is this. Now coming up Maxwell Gain is this. Now coming up Maxwell Gain is going to be testifying again but is going to be testifying again but is going to be testifying again but is expected to just plead the fifth all expected to just plead the fifth all expected to just plead the fifth all day. So don't expect to get a whole lot day. So don't expect to get a whole lot day. So don't expect to get a whole lot out of her. The Clintons are scheduled out of her. The Clintons are scheduled out of her. The Clintons are scheduled for sworn film depositions on February for sworn film depositions on February for sworn film depositions on February 26th and 27th. Uh they caved after 26th and 27th. Uh they caved after 26th and 27th. Uh they caved after bipartisan contempt proceedings, but bipartisan contempt proceedings, but bipartisan contempt proceedings, but there's something weird going on. I've there's something weird going on. I've there's something weird going on. I've talked about that before. The fact that talked about that before. The fact that talked about that before. The fact that they now want this all public, they've they now want this all public, they've they now want this all public, they've got a game plan of some kind. Now, got a game plan of some kind. Now, got a game plan of some kind. Now, again, I don't know that they're guilty again, I don't know that they're guilty again, I don't know that they're guilty of anything, but oo man, of anything, but oo man, of anything, but oo man, this feels like political coverup. So, this feels like political coverup. So, this feels like political coverup. So, I'll be very, very curious to see how I'll be very, very curious to see how I'll be very, very curious to see how that plays out. Uh, Attorney General Pam that plays out. Uh, Attorney General Pam that plays out. Uh, Attorney General Pam Bondi testifies before the House Bondi testifies before the House Bondi testifies before the House Judiciary Committee next Wednesday. Judiciary Committee next Wednesday. Judiciary Committee next Wednesday. She's doing it then to give lawmakers She's doing it then to give lawmakers She's doing it then to give lawmakers plenty of time. They'll have had several plenty of time. They'll have had several plenty of time. They'll have had several days with the unredacted material. So, days with the unredacted material. So, days with the unredacted material. So, we'll see what they ask her. Now, it is we'll see what they ask her. Now, it is we'll see what they ask her. Now, it is truly impossible to know what's actually truly impossible to know what's actually truly impossible to know what's actually happening. And I hope everybody happening. And I hope everybody happening. And I hope everybody approaches these things with the approaches these things with the approaches these things with the appropriate level of humility and appropriate level of humility and appropriate level of humility and certainly that is where I'm at. Uh, and certainly that is where I'm at. Uh, and certainly that is where I'm at. Uh, and as I will repeat often, I don't have any as I will repeat often, I don't have any as I will repeat often, I don't have any inside information, nor am I accusing inside information, nor am I accusing inside information, nor am I accusing anyone of anything, but hot damn. It anyone of anything, but hot damn. It anyone of anything, but hot damn. It will be a devastating blow to our will be a devastating blow to our will be a devastating blow to our national psyche if no one goes to prison national psyche if no one goes to prison national psyche if no one goes to prison over this stuff. It is wild. It needs to over this stuff. It is wild. It needs to over this stuff. It is wild. It needs to be investigated. It needs to go through be investigated. It needs to go through be investigated. It needs to go through the courts 100%. And only if somebody is the courts 100%. And only if somebody is the courts 100%. And only if somebody is provably guilty, should they be uh provably guilty, should they be uh provably guilty, should they be uh prosecuted, but or should they be prosecuted, but or should they be prosecuted, but or should they be convicted. But man, we've got to run the convicted. But man, we've got to run the convicted. But man, we've got to run the procedure. like you cannot let this procedure. like you cannot let this procedure. like you cannot let this stuff go uncontested. It It is just too stuff go uncontested. It It is just too stuff go uncontested. It It is just too insane. Now, it may take years to fully insane. Now, it may take years to fully insane. Now, it may take years to fully manifest, but I assure you, like we were manifest, but I assure you, like we were manifest, but I assure you, like we were talking about just a minute ago, just as talking about just a minute ago, just as talking about just a minute ago, just as CO forced a lot of people, myself CO forced a lot of people, myself CO forced a lot of people, myself included, to update their mental model included, to update their mental model included, to update their mental model of how the world works, the Epstein of how the world works, the Epstein of how the world works, the Epstein files are going to do the same. This files are going to do the same. This files are going to do the same. This will be something that you can plot on a will be something that you can plot on a will be something that you can plot on a graph of the American psyche. Where we graph of the American psyche. Where we graph of the American psyche. Where we are headed, how we grapple with our own are headed, how we grapple with our own are headed, how we grapple with our own internal um internal um internal um just a cold civil war is I think the just a cold civil war is I think the just a cold civil war is I think the most accurate way to look at it. This is most accurate way to look at it. This is most accurate way to look at it. This is not going to help. It may cause young not going to help. It may cause young not going to help. It may cause young generations to throw their hands up. We generations to throw their hands up. We generations to throw their hands up. We all have to do something to um push back all have to do something to um push back all have to do something to um push back against that. Now to um I guess insert against that. Now to um I guess insert against that. Now to um I guess insert myself into the story a little bit here myself into the story a little bit here myself into the story a little bit here because I am thinking about Kaizen and because I am thinking about Kaizen and because I am thinking about Kaizen and I'm thinking all the time about okay I'm thinking all the time about okay I'm thinking all the time about okay like what message am I really trying to like what message am I really trying to like what message am I really trying to get across to kids? Stuff like this um get across to kids? Stuff like this um get across to kids? Stuff like this um really makes me want kids to remember really makes me want kids to remember really makes me want kids to remember that having a dream is a good thing. Uh that having a dream is a good thing. Uh that having a dream is a good thing. Uh being sincere is a good thing. Not being being sincere is a good thing. Not being being sincere is a good thing. Not being cynical. um being able to face things cynical. um being able to face things cynical. um being able to face things like this head-on but without losing like this head-on but without losing like this head-on but without losing your sense of joy and wonder is going to your sense of joy and wonder is going to your sense of joy and wonder is going to be critically important. Um so yeah, be critically important. Um so yeah, be critically important. Um so yeah, keep that in mind. Like just shoving keep that in mind. Like just shoving keep that in mind. Like just shoving bottle after bottle of black pill down bottle after bottle of black pill down bottle after bottle of black pill down somebody's throat is a bad idea. They somebody's throat is a bad idea. They somebody's throat is a bad idea. They are going to get plenty of black pills are going to get plenty of black pills are going to get plenty of black pills on the way to uh whatever truth and on the way to uh whatever truth and on the way to uh whatever truth and reconciliation we are going to have with reconciliation we are going to have with reconciliation we are going to have with how global power actually works, which I how global power actually works, which I how global power actually works, which I have a video coming out on tomorrow. have a video coming out on tomorrow. have a video coming out on tomorrow. Watch that. It it is the web of Watch that. It it is the web of Watch that. It it is the web of interconnections that needs to freak interconnections that needs to freak interconnections that needs to freak people out. What's being revealed in the people out. What's being revealed in the people out. What's being revealed in the Epstein files isn't just the horrifying Epstein files isn't just the horrifying Epstein files isn't just the horrifying nature of child predatory behavior, nature of child predatory behavior, nature of child predatory behavior, sexual abuse, trafficking, all that, sexual abuse, trafficking, all that, sexual abuse, trafficking, all that, which is bad enough on its own, but it which is bad enough on its own, but it which is bad enough on its own, but it is how interconnected they are, how much is how interconnected they are, how much is how interconnected they are, how much um insider information is being passed um insider information is being passed um insider information is being passed back and forth rapidly. Um how they back and forth rapidly. Um how they back and forth rapidly. Um how they leverage things like NOS's, like um tax leverage things like NOS's, like um tax leverage things like NOS's, like um tax shelters, like corporate veils. I mean, shelters, like corporate veils. I mean, shelters, like corporate veils. I mean, just on and on and on and on and on to just on and on and on and on and on to just on and on and on and on and on to do a lot of questionable stuff at an do a lot of questionable stuff at an do a lot of questionable stuff at an absolute minimum that we're going to absolute minimum that we're going to absolute minimum that we're going to want to continue to comb through until want to continue to comb through until want to continue to comb through until we actually map how this stuff works we actually map how this stuff works we actually map how this stuff works because it is brutal. because it is brutal. because it is brutal. Brutal. I think it's a a bit damning Brutal. I think it's a a bit damning Brutal. I think it's a a bit damning that we're seeing such swift action on that we're seeing such swift action on that we're seeing such swift action on the international front and I want to the international front and I want to the international front and I want to say it took a week before the major news say it took a week before the major news say it took a week before the major news articles even put out a release. Now, of articles even put out a release. Now, of articles even put out a release. Now, of course, Wall Street Journal released course, Wall Street Journal released course, Wall Street Journal released something. New York Times released something. New York Times released something. New York Times released something. Um, but they're getting a something. Um, but they're getting a something. Um, but they're getting a slide, too, because everybody's kind of slide, too, because everybody's kind of slide, too, because everybody's kind of cutting out the slice of the Epstein cutting out the slice of the Epstein cutting out the slice of the Epstein files they're comfortable with. files they're comfortable with. files they're comfortable with. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Dude, God, you you just gave me chills. >> Dude, God, you you just gave me chills. >> Dude, God, you you just gave me chills. That that is so important for people to That that is so important for people to That that is so important for people to understand. Everybody grabs the part understand. Everybody grabs the part understand. Everybody grabs the part that's convenient for them that's convenient for them that's convenient for them >> and you cut around the parts that don't >> and you cut around the parts that don't >> and you cut around the parts that don't look good for your team. Like, people look good for your team. Like, people look good for your team. Like, people still can't help themselves, but play still can't help themselves, but play still can't help themselves, but play team ball. Yeah, team ball. Yeah, team ball. Yeah, >> it's like unfortunately we have to let >> it's like unfortunately we have to let >> it's like unfortunately we have to let this one land where it lands. Otherwise, this one land where it lands. Otherwise, this one land where it lands. Otherwise, you just go back to letting the system you just go back to letting the system you just go back to letting the system be corrupt. So, if I'm going to put on be corrupt. So, if I'm going to put on be corrupt. So, if I'm going to put on my optimistic hat for a second, my optimistic hat for a second, my optimistic hat for a second, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh, okay. In the age of just all >> Uh, okay. In the age of just all >> Uh, okay. In the age of just all transparency all the time, we can transparency all the time, we can transparency all the time, we can actually have a conversation about actually have a conversation about actually have a conversation about things like um things like um things like um we the Federal Reserve created a we the Federal Reserve created a we the Federal Reserve created a monetary system by using confusion and monetary system by using confusion and monetary system by using confusion and intentional mystery to um trick the intentional mystery to um trick the intentional mystery to um trick the public into agreeing something that is public into agreeing something that is public into agreeing something that is not in their best interest that has not in their best interest that has not in their best interest that has created the K-shaped economy globally, created the K-shaped economy globally, created the K-shaped economy globally, not just here in the US. Uh it allows not just here in the US. Uh it allows not just here in the US. Uh it allows people with a higher degree of financial people with a higher degree of financial people with a higher degree of financial sophistication to rob blind the average sophistication to rob blind the average sophistication to rob blind the average person uh and make them feel like person uh and make them feel like person uh and make them feel like they're being protected while they do they're being protected while they do they're being protected while they do it. Um and so for the first time it it. Um and so for the first time it it. Um and so for the first time it feels like hey maybe in talking about feels like hey maybe in talking about feels like hey maybe in talking about this stuff all the time maybe people this stuff all the time maybe people this stuff all the time maybe people aren't going to um map it all accurately aren't going to um map it all accurately aren't going to um map it all accurately in their own life such that they would in their own life such that they would in their own life such that they would be the person we would turn to to create be the person we would turn to to create be the person we would turn to to create policy but they're going to have a policy but they're going to have a policy but they're going to have a sufficient level of paranoia. They're sufficient level of paranoia. They're sufficient level of paranoia. They're going to have a sufficient level of going to have a sufficient level of going to have a sufficient level of distrust um such that they want to get distrust um such that they want to get distrust um such that they want to get educated. I'm going to I'm going to educated. I'm going to I'm going to educated. I'm going to I'm going to introduce a new idea here. We've never introduce a new idea here. We've never introduce a new idea here. We've never talked about this before, but I found talked about this before, but I found talked about this before, but I found this really interesting. Um, if you look this really interesting. Um, if you look this really interesting. Um, if you look at I think it was the State of the Union at I think it was the State of the Union at I think it was the State of the Union speeches that they were looking at. If speeches that they were looking at. If speeches that they were looking at. If you look at the the State of the Union, you look at the the State of the Union, you look at the the State of the Union, if you will grant me that the State of if you will grant me that the State of if you will grant me that the State of the Union is meant to be the thing that the Union is meant to be the thing that the Union is meant to be the thing that you aim at the widest number of you aim at the widest number of you aim at the widest number of Americans. Now, if that if you won't Americans. Now, if that if you won't Americans. Now, if that if you won't give me that and if you say, "Look, back give me that and if you say, "Look, back give me that and if you say, "Look, back in the day, just it was only people that in the day, just it was only people that in the day, just it was only people that read the newspaper that already self- read the newspaper that already self- read the newspaper that already self- selected and so it doesn't work." And selected and so it doesn't work." And selected and so it doesn't work." And admittedly, it's a fragility in in my admittedly, it's a fragility in in my admittedly, it's a fragility in in my own argument. But if you will grant me own argument. But if you will grant me own argument. But if you will grant me that that that >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> what you then say is okay what's the >> what you then say is okay what's the >> what you then say is okay what's the level of speech that they provide level of speech that they provide level of speech that they provide knowing that this is for the widest knowing that this is for the widest knowing that this is for the widest audience like it's the widest audience audience like it's the widest audience audience like it's the widest audience speech they will give in the year maybe speech they will give in the year maybe speech they will give in the year maybe I can get people that far so it's the I can get people that far so it's the I can get people that far so it's the widest audience speech maybe it's still widest audience speech maybe it's still widest audience speech maybe it's still only to a a more narrow band of humanity only to a a more narrow band of humanity only to a a more narrow band of humanity but it's the widest one that you're but it's the widest one that you're but it's the widest one that you're going to do and so it's indicative of going to do and so it's indicative of going to do and so it's indicative of the widest number of people that you the widest number of people that you the widest number of people that you believe are paying attention what level believe are paying attention what level believe are paying attention what level their education is. And we've gone from their education is. And we've gone from their education is. And we've gone from what today would be clocked at a PhD what today would be clocked at a PhD what today would be clocked at a PhD level back in like the 20s or 30s now level back in like the 20s or 30s now level back in like the 20s or 30s now down to like a fifth or sixth grade down to like a fifth or sixth grade down to like a fifth or sixth grade level. I don't mean that figuratively. I level. I don't mean that figuratively. I level. I don't mean that figuratively. I mean literally a fifth or sixth grade mean literally a fifth or sixth grade mean literally a fifth or sixth grade level. And so here's the bad news. It it level. And so here's the bad news. It it level. And so here's the bad news. It it it kind of stung me a little bit. I it kind of stung me a little bit. I it kind of stung me a little bit. I intentionally when I'm working with AI intentionally when I'm working with AI intentionally when I'm working with AI give it the instruction write this at a give it the instruction write this at a give it the instruction write this at a sixth grade level. Like I actually say sixth grade level. Like I actually say sixth grade level. Like I actually say that explicitly that explicitly that explicitly >> because that's what I feel I can count >> because that's what I feel I can count >> because that's what I feel I can count on. That's I'll say it another way. When on. That's I'll say it another way. When on. That's I'll say it another way. When I write explicitly at a sixth grade I write explicitly at a sixth grade I write explicitly at a sixth grade level, it performs better. level, it performs better. level, it performs better. >> Youch. >> Youch. >> Youch. So uh this is my impromptu invitation or So uh this is my impromptu invitation or So uh this is my impromptu invitation or hope that what getting paranoid causes hope that what getting paranoid causes hope that what getting paranoid causes people to do is educate themselves. Now, people to do is educate themselves. Now, people to do is educate themselves. Now, I know there's a lot of drama around AI I know there's a lot of drama around AI I know there's a lot of drama around AI and is it causing people's brain matter and is it causing people's brain matter and is it causing people's brain matter to shrink, to shrink, to shrink, >> but from firthand experience, >> but from firthand experience, >> but from firthand experience, it's all in how you use AI. So, if you it's all in how you use AI. So, if you it's all in how you use AI. So, if you use AI to teach you something, you use AI to teach you something, you use AI to teach you something, you really can grasp the subject much faster really can grasp the subject much faster really can grasp the subject much faster because you can just but I don't because you can just but I don't because you can just but I don't understand this, I don't understand understand this, I don't understand understand this, I don't understand this, I don't understand this, and then this, I don't understand this, and then this, I don't understand this, and then you keep pushing until you can you keep pushing until you can you keep pushing until you can articulate, okay, here's the cause and articulate, okay, here's the cause and articulate, okay, here's the cause and effect. And if people just take that, effect. And if people just take that, effect. And if people just take that, I'm not here to get an answer. I'm here I'm not here to get an answer. I'm here I'm not here to get an answer. I'm here to map cause and effect. AI is is the to map cause and effect. AI is is the to map cause and effect. AI is is the greatest boon to civilization ever. And greatest boon to civilization ever. And greatest boon to civilization ever. And so if people can go in and say, "Okay, so if people can go in and say, "Okay, so if people can go in and say, "Okay, I'm going to use AI to map cause and I'm going to use AI to map cause and I'm going to use AI to map cause and effect. I know that AI is biased." effect. I know that AI is biased." effect. I know that AI is biased." Again, this is my whole video coming out Again, this is my whole video coming out Again, this is my whole video coming out on Tuesday is about it's actually about on Tuesday is about it's actually about on Tuesday is about it's actually about AI, but it it maps the web of AI, but it it maps the web of AI, but it it maps the web of >> uh elites in the same video. >> uh elites in the same video. >> uh elites in the same video. So, I'm going to use AI knowing that it So, I'm going to use AI knowing that it So, I'm going to use AI knowing that it has biases to map out cause and effect. has biases to map out cause and effect. has biases to map out cause and effect. And by getting a wider, it's never going And by getting a wider, it's never going And by getting a wider, it's never going to be everybody, but by getting a wider to be everybody, but by getting a wider to be everybody, but by getting a wider swath of people to start thinking up swath of people to start thinking up swath of people to start thinking up from cause and effect, it feels like the from cause and effect, it feels like the from cause and effect, it feels like the only way out of this. Or at a minimum, only way out of this. Or at a minimum, only way out of this. Or at a minimum, it's like I only vote for people. like it's like I only vote for people. like it's like I only vote for people. like you've got to be able to walk me through you've got to be able to walk me through you've got to be able to walk me through cause and effect in a way that I can cause and effect in a way that I can cause and effect in a way that I can understand so that I know you're talking understand so that I know you're talking understand so that I know you're talking mechanistic and you're not talking um mechanistic and you're not talking um mechanistic and you're not talking um you're not trying to use mystery and big you're not trying to use mystery and big you're not trying to use mystery and big words in the way that like the legal words in the way that like the legal words in the way that like the legal profession does or the finance industry profession does or the finance industry profession does or the finance industry does does does >> you and confuse you. >> you and confuse you. >> you and confuse you. >> Correct. So that I'm just like I don't >> Correct. So that I'm just like I don't >> Correct. So that I'm just like I don't want to think about this. want to think about this. want to think about this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, that might be being a little >> So anyway, that might be being a little >> So anyway, that might be being a little deeoeyed but um that would be my hope. I deeoeyed but um that would be my hope. I deeoeyed but um that would be my hope. I I I think we need to go back to that I I think we need to go back to that I I think we need to go back to that though in this moment. There's though in this moment. There's though in this moment. There's turbulence on all sides. I feel like turbulence on all sides. I feel like turbulence on all sides. I feel like we're in the middle of a submarine and we're in the middle of a submarine and we're in the middle of a submarine and the surface is on fire. We have two the surface is on fire. We have two the surface is on fire. We have two nukes that are headed right to us and we nukes that are headed right to us and we nukes that are headed right to us and we have a leak in the hole. have a leak in the hole. have a leak in the hole. >> You talking about Iran or we talking >> You talking about Iran or we talking >> You talking about Iran or we talking about Epstein? about Epstein? about Epstein? >> I'm just talking about in society in >> I'm just talking about in society in >> I'm just talking about in society in general. I feel like we're getting hit general. I feel like we're getting hit general. I feel like we're getting hit on all sides cuz going back to like my on all sides cuz going back to like my on all sides cuz going back to like my daughter's generation daughter's generation daughter's generation there, this is an active attack on there, this is an active attack on there, this is an active attack on morality. What should we do in this morality. What should we do in this morality. What should we do in this moment? How should we do it? Do bad guys moment? How should we do it? Do bad guys moment? How should we do it? Do bad guys go get put up or do bad guys get away go get put up or do bad guys get away go get put up or do bad guys get away with it? On the flip side, I have no with it? On the flip side, I have no with it? On the flip side, I have no meaning and purpose because AI is going meaning and purpose because AI is going meaning and purpose because AI is going to take all the jobs. So, I either need to take all the jobs. So, I either need to take all the jobs. So, I either need to learn how to work a wrench or I'm to learn how to work a wrench or I'm to learn how to work a wrench or I'm just going to be a slave to the uh just going to be a slave to the uh just going to be a slave to the uh Skynet. Skynet. Skynet. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then financially, >> And then financially, >> And then financially, K-shaped economy. If my parents aren't K-shaped economy. If my parents aren't K-shaped economy. If my parents aren't rich, it's pretty likely I'm going to rich, it's pretty likely I'm going to rich, it's pretty likely I'm going to stay in the same economic bracket. It's stay in the same economic bracket. It's stay in the same economic bracket. It's only going to get wider and wider and only going to get wider and wider and only going to get wider and wider and wider. 10 years from now, I might have wider. 10 years from now, I might have wider. 10 years from now, I might have to scrape and have a roommate for the to scrape and have a roommate for the to scrape and have a roommate for the foreseeable future of my life. foreseeable future of my life. foreseeable future of my life. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> it it seems like this is a bleak time. >> it it seems like this is a bleak time. >> it it seems like this is a bleak time. Is there something that we should be Is there something that we should be Is there something that we should be focusing on? Is there somewhere we can focusing on? Is there somewhere we can focusing on? Is there somewhere we can kind of move the spotlight to something kind of move the spotlight to something kind of move the spotlight to something that can invigorate America, get us that can invigorate America, get us that can invigorate America, get us excited again? excited again? excited again? >> Yes. But okay, so yes, I'll give that >> Yes. But okay, so yes, I'll give that >> Yes. But okay, so yes, I'll give that speech. Yeah. speech. Yeah. speech. Yeah. >> My great fear is that the the answer is >> My great fear is that the the answer is >> My great fear is that the the answer is right there. It's so obvious. Uh it's right there. It's so obvious. Uh it's right there. It's so obvious. Uh it's just that people don't do it. And this just that people don't do it. And this just that people don't do it. And this is why is why is why um I weep that I'm scared because I know um I weep that I'm scared because I know um I weep that I'm scared because I know I can save myself. I know I can save my I can save myself. I know I can save my I can save myself. I know I can save my family. And that is true of anybody that family. And that is true of anybody that family. And that is true of anybody that can hear my voice right now. You can can hear my voice right now. You can can hear my voice right now. You can save yourself. You can save your family. save yourself. You can save your family. save yourself. You can save your family. That's easy. That's easy. That's easy. >> It's just a question of can you can we >> It's just a question of can you can we >> It's just a question of can you can we collectively nudge society into a better collectively nudge society into a better collectively nudge society into a better direction. direction. direction. >> That's the part that scares me. So let >> That's the part that scares me. So let >> That's the part that scares me. So let me give you the individual speech. Okay, me give you the individual speech. Okay, me give you the individual speech. Okay, so the individual speech is [ __ ] so the individual speech is [ __ ] so the individual speech is [ __ ] easy. This is the greatest time to be easy. This is the greatest time to be easy. This is the greatest time to be alive. literally ever. Uh the tools that alive. literally ever. Uh the tools that alive. literally ever. Uh the tools that are being put in your hands mean there are being put in your hands mean there are being put in your hands mean there are literally no gatekeepers. And so now are literally no gatekeepers. And so now are literally no gatekeepers. And so now it's a question of how good are you it's a question of how good are you it's a question of how good are you willing to get. So I have been willing to get. So I have been willing to get. So I have been frustrated for the last couple of years frustrated for the last couple of years frustrated for the last couple of years if I'm honest at the rate of progress if I'm honest at the rate of progress if I'm honest at the rate of progress that we were making on Kaizen. Uh and so that we were making on Kaizen. Uh and so that we were making on Kaizen. Uh and so I decide I'm going to start spending my I decide I'm going to start spending my I decide I'm going to start spending my entire weekends. All of my work focus is entire weekends. All of my work focus is entire weekends. All of my work focus is going to go into Kaizen. So we boom, we going to go into Kaizen. So we boom, we going to go into Kaizen. So we boom, we start going much faster. Amazing. Uh I'm start going much faster. Amazing. Uh I'm start going much faster. Amazing. Uh I'm an impatient person. So, I find myself, an impatient person. So, I find myself, an impatient person. So, I find myself, it's happened multiple times. it's happened multiple times. it's happened multiple times. >> I'll get to the weekend, I'm trying to >> I'll get to the weekend, I'm trying to >> I'll get to the weekend, I'm trying to play test and I'll encounter a play test and I'll encounter a play test and I'll encounter a game-breaking bug. And so, then it kills game-breaking bug. And so, then it kills game-breaking bug. And so, then it kills the whole weekend. And so, now as a the whole weekend. And so, now as a the whole weekend. And so, now as a obsessive over progress and all that, obsessive over progress and all that, obsessive over progress and all that, I'm freaking out. So, finally, I go, I'm freaking out. So, finally, I go, I'm freaking out. So, finally, I go, "Okay, wait. I'm going to start learning "Okay, wait. I'm going to start learning "Okay, wait. I'm going to start learning the tools." And so, I start having our the tools." And so, I start having our the tools." And so, I start having our team no, teach me how to do it so that I team no, teach me how to do it so that I team no, teach me how to do it so that I don't have to wait for you. Cool. Do don't have to wait for you. Cool. Do don't have to wait for you. Cool. Do that. This weekend I go to play the game that. This weekend I go to play the game that. This weekend I go to play the game and it's just it's it won't even load. and it's just it's it won't even load. and it's just it's it won't even load. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> It just goes, "Sorry, these files are >> It just goes, "Sorry, these files are >> It just goes, "Sorry, these files are missing or whatever." And so I'm like, missing or whatever." And so I'm like, missing or whatever." And so I'm like, "Oh, dear God." And I'm like, "No, wait. "Oh, dear God." And I'm like, "No, wait. "Oh, dear God." And I'm like, "No, wait. I can solve this." I took a screenshot I can solve this." I took a screenshot I can solve this." I took a screenshot of it, dropped it into um Claude. I was of it, dropped it into um Claude. I was of it, dropped it into um Claude. I was like, "Claude, I'm stuck. This is what's like, "Claude, I'm stuck. This is what's like, "Claude, I'm stuck. This is what's happening. Please tell me what to do." happening. Please tell me what to do." happening. Please tell me what to do." It walked me step by step through It walked me step by step through It walked me step by step through exactly what I do, and I now understand exactly what I do, and I now understand exactly what I do, and I now understand Visual Studio. I understand how to link Visual Studio. I understand how to link Visual Studio. I understand how to link broken files. And I was like, because broken files. And I was like, because broken files. And I was like, because I'm not just like monkey press button I'm not just like monkey press button I'm not just like monkey press button because red light flashes. It's like I'm because red light flashes. It's like I'm because red light flashes. It's like I'm actually trying to understand what this actually trying to understand what this actually trying to understand what this is so I can get better at it. And so I'm is so I can get better at it. And so I'm is so I can get better at it. And so I'm just like damn. Like just like damn. Like just like damn. Like >> the number of times life has taught me >> the number of times life has taught me >> the number of times life has taught me one simple thing. If you put time and one simple thing. If you put time and one simple thing. If you put time and energy into getting better at something, energy into getting better at something, energy into getting better at something, you will get better. And that matters you will get better. And that matters you will get better. And that matters because skills have utility. So I don't because skills have utility. So I don't because skills have utility. So I don't want people to think that I fancy myself want people to think that I fancy myself want people to think that I fancy myself a programmer. I am not. But dude, a programmer. I am not. But dude, a programmer. I am not. But dude, honestly, by the time the game launches, honestly, by the time the game launches, honestly, by the time the game launches, I'll be surprised if I'm not using AI to I'll be surprised if I'm not using AI to I'll be surprised if I'm not using AI to code in C++ because you just start code in C++ because you just start code in C++ because you just start realizing that like even like all the realizing that like even like all the realizing that like even like all the complexity of how to build a video game, complexity of how to build a video game, complexity of how to build a video game, you start getting into it and you first you start getting into it and you first you start getting into it and you first you understand one little piece and then you understand one little piece and then you understand one little piece and then you start asking, well, how does that you start asking, well, how does that you start asking, well, how does that piece actually connect to that piece piece actually connect to that piece piece actually connect to that piece from cause and effect? And you start from cause and effect? And you start from cause and effect? And you start mapping this. Oh, I get how this works. mapping this. Oh, I get how this works. mapping this. Oh, I get how this works. Now, once you get how it works, you can Now, once you get how it works, you can Now, once you get how it works, you can make predictions like, "Oh, I bet then make predictions like, "Oh, I bet then make predictions like, "Oh, I bet then if I change that, it would have this if I change that, it would have this if I change that, it would have this effect." You go try it and you break effect." You go try it and you break effect." You go try it and you break something and then you realize, "Okay, something and then you realize, "Okay, something and then you realize, "Okay, wait. I hadn't quite mapped it." But if wait. I hadn't quite mapped it." But if wait. I hadn't quite mapped it." But if you just keep doing that, you just get you just keep doing that, you just get you just keep doing that, you just get better. When I say that AI speeds that better. When I say that AI speeds that better. When I say that AI speeds that journey up, I'm going to guess 100fold journey up, I'm going to guess 100fold journey up, I'm going to guess 100fold at least. at least. at least. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> It it may be more, but when you think of >> It it may be more, but when you think of >> It it may be more, but when you think of the amount of time that you would have the amount of time that you would have the amount of time that you would have to spend going and trying to map like, to spend going and trying to map like, to spend going and trying to map like, okay, who actually knows what they're okay, who actually knows what they're okay, who actually knows what they're talking about in this industry? what talking about in this industry? what talking about in this industry? what Discords do I have to be in like now. Discords do I have to be in like now. Discords do I have to be in like now. You just go, "Uh, screenshot. Here's You just go, "Uh, screenshot. Here's You just go, "Uh, screenshot. Here's where I'm at. Explain that to me. I where I'm at. Explain that to me. I where I'm at. Explain that to me. I don't understand why that would work. don't understand why that would work. don't understand why that would work. You need to tell me why, not just what." You need to tell me why, not just what." You need to tell me why, not just what." And it's like, it took me, I think, like And it's like, it took me, I think, like And it's like, it took me, I think, like 50ish minutes to go from I am completely 50ish minutes to go from I am completely 50ish minutes to go from I am completely dead. I have no idea what to do, how to dead. I have no idea what to do, how to dead. I have no idea what to do, how to fix these. I didn't even know there was fix these. I didn't even know there was fix these. I didn't even know there was a thing called Visual Studio. I didn't a thing called Visual Studio. I didn't a thing called Visual Studio. I didn't know that concept existed. Uh, and so know that concept existed. Uh, and so know that concept existed. Uh, and so all of it in 50 minutes. Now I'm like, all of it in 50 minutes. Now I'm like, all of it in 50 minutes. Now I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I got myself back up and "Oh [ __ ] I got myself back up and "Oh [ __ ] I got myself back up and running and the weekend ended up being running and the weekend ended up being running and the weekend ended up being insanely productive." So if we can insanely productive." So if we can insanely productive." So if we can instill that in America around even just instill that in America around even just instill that in America around even just finances, like, "Oh, wait. I can go finances, like, "Oh, wait. I can go finances, like, "Oh, wait. I can go learn the cause and effect of finances." learn the cause and effect of finances." learn the cause and effect of finances." Yes. Oh, cool. So 10% of the world right Yes. Oh, cool. So 10% of the world right Yes. Oh, cool. So 10% of the world right now owns 90% of the assets. And the way now owns 90% of the assets. And the way now owns 90% of the assets. And the way that the system is set up, people with that the system is set up, people with that the system is set up, people with assets are just going to get richer and assets are just going to get richer and assets are just going to get richer and richer and richer. Yes. So wait, you're richer and richer. Yes. So wait, you're richer and richer. Yes. So wait, you're telling me all I have to do is get into telling me all I have to do is get into telling me all I have to do is get into that 10% of people that own assets? Yes, that 10% of people that own assets? Yes, that 10% of people that own assets? Yes, that's correct. Cool. Done. Like, and that's correct. Cool. Done. Like, and that's correct. Cool. Done. Like, and anybody that wants to be like, uh, this anybody that wants to be like, uh, this anybody that wants to be like, uh, this is impossible, is impossible, is impossible, >> go look at Wall Street Trappers channel. >> go look at Wall Street Trappers channel. >> go look at Wall Street Trappers channel. Okay. Wall Street Trapper, amazing human Okay. Wall Street Trapper, amazing human Okay. Wall Street Trapper, amazing human being. Please, Jesus, don't end up in being. Please, Jesus, don't end up in being. Please, Jesus, don't end up in the Epstein Files or some [ __ ] I'm so the Epstein Files or some [ __ ] I'm so the Epstein Files or some [ __ ] I'm so paranoid now about saying that I like paranoid now about saying that I like paranoid now about saying that I like somebody. Uh, Wall Street Trapper goes somebody. Uh, Wall Street Trapper goes somebody. Uh, Wall Street Trapper goes to prison. Okay. Was not a boy scout and to prison. Okay. Was not a boy scout and to prison. Okay. Was not a boy scout and I don't think he denies that he did the I don't think he denies that he did the I don't think he denies that he did the thing. I don't remember what it was, but thing. I don't remember what it was, but thing. I don't remember what it was, but he rightfully I believe in his own mind he rightfully I believe in his own mind he rightfully I believe in his own mind goes to prison, but he has um a guy in goes to prison, but he has um a guy in goes to prison, but he has um a guy in jail that was like a finance year and jail that was like a finance year and jail that was like a finance year and that happens to be his s. And so he sees that happens to be his s. And so he sees that happens to be his s. And so he sees Wall Street like getting in fights or Wall Street like getting in fights or Wall Street like getting in fights or doing something stupid and he's like, doing something stupid and he's like, doing something stupid and he's like, "You guys are all dumb. You need to "You guys are all dumb. You need to "You guys are all dumb. You need to understand the game that's actually understand the game that's actually understand the game that's actually being played." And he teaches them about being played." And he teaches them about being played." And he teaches them about asset ownership. Now, Wall Street asset ownership. Now, Wall Street asset ownership. Now, Wall Street Trapper, he is bright, but when you hear Trapper, he is bright, but when you hear Trapper, he is bright, but when you hear him talk, he sounds like a street kid. him talk, he sounds like a street kid. him talk, he sounds like a street kid. >> And so, this is not somebody that you >> And so, this is not somebody that you >> And so, this is not somebody that you would run into and go, "Oh, this guy would run into and go, "Oh, this guy would run into and go, "Oh, this guy made a million dollars on a single made a million dollars on a single made a million dollars on a single trade," which he did. You don't go, "Oh, trade," which he did. You don't go, "Oh, trade," which he did. You don't go, "Oh, this is a guy that owns like this entire this is a guy that owns like this entire this is a guy that owns like this entire building to help educate kids," which he building to help educate kids," which he building to help educate kids," which he does. You go, "Uh, this is like a nins does. You go, "Uh, this is like a nins does. You go, "Uh, this is like a nins street kid." No. street kid." No. street kid." No. >> What was the difference? He had somebody >> What was the difference? He had somebody >> What was the difference? He had somebody sit him down and go, "This is how the sit him down and go, "This is how the sit him down and go, "This is how the game of finance works. That's it." And game of finance works. That's it." And game of finance works. That's it." And then he got in and he invested time into then he got in and he invested time into then he got in and he invested time into getting better, but then he got better. getting better, but then he got better. getting better, but then he got better. And so it's like, "This is accessible, And so it's like, "This is accessible, And so it's like, "This is accessible, but people write it off. They want to but people write it off. They want to but people write it off. They want to protest. They want to [ __ ] instead of protest. They want to [ __ ] instead of protest. They want to [ __ ] instead of saying this is the system, so I'm going saying this is the system, so I'm going saying this is the system, so I'm going to go get good at this system." Now, if to go get good at this system." Now, if to go get good at this system." Now, if on Saturdays you want to make money and on Saturdays you want to make money and on Saturdays you want to make money and Sundays you want to [ __ ] and like I Sundays you want to [ __ ] and like I Sundays you want to [ __ ] and like I come on this [ __ ] mic and I tell come on this [ __ ] mic and I tell come on this [ __ ] mic and I tell everybody how the game works, I'm everybody how the game works, I'm everybody how the game works, I'm already [ __ ] rich. I can go do already [ __ ] rich. I can go do already [ __ ] rich. I can go do whatever the [ __ ] I want. And for the whatever the [ __ ] I want. And for the whatever the [ __ ] I want. And for the literally, for the first time, I was literally, for the first time, I was literally, for the first time, I was like, "Wait, why run businesses? I can like, "Wait, why run businesses? I can like, "Wait, why run businesses? I can make so much money now that I understand make so much money now that I understand make so much money now that I understand finance." finance." finance." Like, you want to talk about a backup Like, you want to talk about a backup Like, you want to talk about a backup career plan? Holy Jesus. day trades. career plan? Holy Jesus. day trades. career plan? Holy Jesus. day trades. >> And so I'm like, listen, I want to see >> And so I'm like, listen, I want to see >> And so I'm like, listen, I want to see this system replaced by something where this system replaced by something where this system replaced by something where people can just save their way to people can just save their way to people can just save their way to success. But that is not today. So success. But that is not today. So success. But that is not today. So today, I'm going to say all this [ __ ] today, I'm going to say all this [ __ ] today, I'm going to say all this [ __ ] about we need to change the system and about we need to change the system and about we need to change the system and I'm going to go [ __ ] trade stocks. I'm going to go [ __ ] trade stocks. I'm going to go [ __ ] trade stocks. And I'm not a day trader. I invest for And I'm not a day trader. I invest for And I'm not a day trader. I invest for the long run. But you get it. I'm going the long run. But you get it. I'm going the long run. But you get it. I'm going to make a lot of money. So everybody to make a lot of money. So everybody to make a lot of money. So everybody learn the [ __ ] game. Put some energy learn the [ __ ] game. Put some energy learn the [ __ ] game. Put some energy into changing it. Yes, please. But don't into changing it. Yes, please. But don't into changing it. Yes, please. But don't be so high and mighty that you're not be so high and mighty that you're not be so high and mighty that you're not going to recognize that is the system going to recognize that is the system going to recognize that is the system you have now and you need to win at that you have now and you need to win at that you have now and you need to win at that system in order to survive long enough system in order to survive long enough system in order to survive long enough to change it. Also, to change it without to change it. Also, to change it without to change it. Also, to change it without understanding it first would be stupid understanding it first would be stupid understanding it first would be stupid and to understand it without taking and to understand it without taking and to understand it without taking action is even dumber. So, we'll see. action is even dumber. So, we'll see. action is even dumber. So, we'll see. >> Boom. Um, I know we got a couple super >> Boom. Um, I know we got a couple super >> Boom. Um, I know we got a couple super chats. chats. chats. >> We do. Uh, first up from Sequoia Hall. >> We do. Uh, first up from Sequoia Hall. >> We do. Uh, first up from Sequoia Hall. Why did we not believe so many victims? Why did we not believe so many victims? Why did we not believe so many victims? Why did it have to get this decrepit for Why did it have to get this decrepit for Why did it have to get this decrepit for so long? Also, like we need to have a so long? Also, like we need to have a so long? Also, like we need to have a belief in institutions as a base of belief in institutions as a base of belief in institutions as a base of society. >> Yes. How about this? Society is better >> Yes. How about this? Society is better if you trust your institutions, but if you trust your institutions, but if you trust your institutions, but institutions have to earn your trust. Uh institutions have to earn your trust. Uh institutions have to earn your trust. Uh same with victims. You can't just same with victims. You can't just same with victims. You can't just believe all women or believe all believe all women or believe all believe all women or believe all victims. It doesn't work like that victims. It doesn't work like that victims. It doesn't work like that because you're creating a system where because you're creating a system where because you're creating a system where now you have uh an angle that can be now you have uh an angle that can be now you have uh an angle that can be exploited. And remember, any system that exploited. And remember, any system that exploited. And remember, any system that can be exploited will be exploited. And can be exploited will be exploited. And can be exploited will be exploited. And so if somebody knows, oh, if I claim to so if somebody knows, oh, if I claim to so if somebody knows, oh, if I claim to be a victim, they're going to believe be a victim, they're going to believe be a victim, they're going to believe everything I say, then people will use everything I say, then people will use everything I say, then people will use that. So you can't do it. Unfortunately, that. So you can't do it. Unfortunately, that. So you can't do it. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work. Now, the real it just doesn't work. Now, the real it just doesn't work. Now, the real reason that I think even if it was reason that I think even if it was reason that I think even if it was people that prove their credibility and people that prove their credibility and people that prove their credibility and all that stuff, it it is so much to all that stuff, it it is so much to all that stuff, it it is so much to metabolize. Like if you said um metabolize. Like if you said um metabolize. Like if you said um not that I'm making any accusations, but not that I'm making any accusations, but not that I'm making any accusations, but if you said Nancy Pelosi was just if you said Nancy Pelosi was just if you said Nancy Pelosi was just violently insider trading, people can violently insider trading, people can violently insider trading, people can get their head around that. When you get their head around that. When you get their head around that. When you start talking that slicing pizza is code start talking that slicing pizza is code start talking that slicing pizza is code for slicing up babies and eating them, for slicing up babies and eating them, for slicing up babies and eating them, people go, "Yeah, no, I'm I'm not people go, "Yeah, no, I'm I'm not people go, "Yeah, no, I'm I'm not willing to believe that." Uh I'm still willing to believe that." Uh I'm still willing to believe that." Uh I'm still not even sure that's true because that not even sure that's true because that not even sure that's true because that just seems impossible. So I'm almost just seems impossible. So I'm almost just seems impossible. So I'm almost holding out hope that it's something holding out hope that it's something holding out hope that it's something more mundane than that. So you run into more mundane than that. So you run into more mundane than that. So you run into the gap between the world that people the gap between the world that people the gap between the world that people believe they live in and the one you are believe they live in and the one you are believe they live in and the one you are asking them to believe that they asking them to believe that they asking them to believe that they actually live in are so different they actually live in are so different they actually live in are so different they can't wrap their head around it. The can't wrap their head around it. The can't wrap their head around it. The only reason that I'm even mildly pulled only reason that I'm even mildly pulled only reason that I'm even mildly pulled in the direction of maybe it really goes in the direction of maybe it really goes in the direction of maybe it really goes farther than I think is history. And if farther than I think is history. And if farther than I think is history. And if you read enough history, like if you you read enough history, like if you you read enough history, like if you read how the guy known as Dracula, like read how the guy known as Dracula, like read how the guy known as Dracula, like the real guy, if you know how he becomes the real guy, if you know how he becomes the real guy, if you know how he becomes known as Vlad the Impaler, you suddenly known as Vlad the Impaler, you suddenly known as Vlad the Impaler, you suddenly go, "Oh, maybe humans are capable of a go, "Oh, maybe humans are capable of a go, "Oh, maybe humans are capable of a level of horror that I just didn't think level of horror that I just didn't think level of horror that I just didn't think we were capable of." Or go do a tour in we were capable of." Or go do a tour in we were capable of." Or go do a tour in London where they walk you through some London where they walk you through some London where they walk you through some of the medieval um torture that they of the medieval um torture that they of the medieval um torture that they applied to people. It's crazy. Uh so applied to people. It's crazy. Uh so applied to people. It's crazy. Uh so yeah, humans are capable of some pretty yeah, humans are capable of some pretty yeah, humans are capable of some pretty atrocious things, but we live in an era atrocious things, but we live in an era atrocious things, but we live in an era where all of those impulses are forced where all of those impulses are forced where all of those impulses are forced underground. And that was not always the underground. And that was not always the underground. And that was not always the case. And so I think that we're h I case. And so I think that we're h I case. And so I think that we're h I think that we're caught off guard. We're think that we're caught off guard. We're think that we're caught off guard. We're taken by surprise, all of that. And it's taken by surprise, all of that. And it's taken by surprise, all of that. And it's just so hard to wrap our heads around. just so hard to wrap our heads around. just so hard to wrap our heads around. Second super chat from Marushia Dark. Second super chat from Marushia Dark. Second super chat from Marushia Dark. There's a book on Amazon simply called There's a book on Amazon simply called There's a book on Amazon simply called the book, a handbook for rebuilding the book, a handbook for rebuilding the book, a handbook for rebuilding civilization when the power goes out. civilization when the power goes out. civilization when the power goes out. also been watching Dr. Dr. Stone also been watching Dr. Dr. Stone also been watching Dr. Dr. Stone recently, which is the anime version of recently, which is the anime version of recently, which is the anime version of the same. Highly recommend both. the same. Highly recommend both. the same. Highly recommend both. >> You make me want to see Dr. Stone. Um, >> You make me want to see Dr. Stone. Um, >> You make me want to see Dr. Stone. Um, yeah, I could do Diet Tribes on anime. yeah, I could do Diet Tribes on anime. yeah, I could do Diet Tribes on anime. There's something so right about anime. There's something so right about anime. There's something so right about anime. There's something Look, if if your only There's something Look, if if your only There's something Look, if if your only uh interaction with it is the uh uh interaction with it is the uh uh interaction with it is the uh terrifying stuff that I imagine uh terrifying stuff that I imagine uh terrifying stuff that I imagine uh Jeffrey Epste has on speed dial. I get Jeffrey Epste has on speed dial. I get Jeffrey Epste has on speed dial. I get it. Uh but anime, there's something it. Uh but anime, there's something it. Uh but anime, there's something about Japanese storytelling. That's a about Japanese storytelling. That's a about Japanese storytelling. That's a easier way to talk about it. There's easier way to talk about it. There's easier way to talk about it. There's something about Japanese storytelling something about Japanese storytelling something about Japanese storytelling where either because their lives are where either because their lives are where either because their lives are more repressed and so they have to find more repressed and so they have to find more repressed and so they have to find a way to talk about like human emotion a way to talk about like human emotion a way to talk about like human emotion at the level of archetype. There's at the level of archetype. There's at the level of archetype. There's something there, man. There's something something there, man. There's something something there, man. There's something there. Yeah, there's a reason that they there. Yeah, there's a reason that they there. Yeah, there's a reason that they are so dominant in children's are so dominant in children's are so dominant in children's entertainment. There's a reason. entertainment. There's a reason. entertainment. There's a reason. >> I just want to shout out Allan Satoshi >> I just want to shout out Allan Satoshi >> I just want to shout out Allan Satoshi Greenspan because every chat he says the Greenspan because every chat he says the Greenspan because every chat he says the same four things. And at first I was same four things. And at first I was same four things. And at first I was like, "Oh, this dude's crazy. Oh, this like, "Oh, this dude's crazy. Oh, this like, "Oh, this dude's crazy. Oh, this dude has like a tick. He's the He's the dude has like a tick. He's the He's the dude has like a tick. He's the He's the only one that's like batting 100 right only one that's like batting 100 right only one that's like batting 100 right now. He's saying collect cows and now. He's saying collect cows and now. He's saying collect cows and chickens, mandatory medals, gold and chickens, mandatory medals, gold and chickens, mandatory medals, gold and silver. He's on a crazy run right now. silver. He's on a crazy run right now. silver. He's on a crazy run right now. Grow gardens and stack seeds and Grow gardens and stack seeds and Grow gardens and stack seeds and >> stack seeds. >> stack seeds. >> stack seeds. >> Seeds like seeds for the garden. >> Seeds like seeds for the garden. >> Seeds like seeds for the garden. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So that way you can continue. >> So that way you can continue. >> So that way you can continue. >> Oh, no. I get it. >> Oh, no. I get it. >> Oh, no. I get it. >> That's what I'm saying. It was like, uh, >> That's what I'm saying. It was like, uh, >> That's what I'm saying. It was like, uh, I was talking junk Satoshi cuz you use a I was talking junk Satoshi cuz you use a I was talking junk Satoshi cuz you use a lot of emojis, but you're on a he's on a lot of emojis, but you're on a he's on a lot of emojis, but you're on a he's on a generational run right now, so I have to generational run right now, so I have to generational run right now, so I have to I have to shout him out. I have to shout him out. I have to shout him out. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'd be a little careful with >> Yeah. Yeah. I'd be a little careful with >> Yeah. Yeah. I'd be a little careful with that in terms of [laughter] like real that in terms of [laughter] like real that in terms of [laughter] like real advice that uh will last. Here's why. advice that uh will last. Here's why. advice that uh will last. Here's why. Remember, civilization exists for a Remember, civilization exists for a Remember, civilization exists for a reason. We move in that direction for a reason. We move in that direction for a reason. We move in that direction for a reason. Uh and so even if you were to reason. Uh and so even if you were to reason. Uh and so even if you were to reset, like if you drop just every nuke reset, like if you drop just every nuke reset, like if you drop just every nuke ever, you'll reend up here. It'll take a ever, you'll reend up here. It'll take a ever, you'll reend up here. It'll take a very long time, but you'll get back very long time, but you'll get back very long time, but you'll get back here. Uh remember, I think it's the cape here. Uh remember, I think it's the cape here. Uh remember, I think it's the cape of hope. Uh it is believed that human of hope. Uh it is believed that human of hope. Uh it is believed that human civilization was reduced down to like civilization was reduced down to like civilization was reduced down to like 6,000 people, 3,000 to 6,000 people at 6,000 people, 3,000 to 6,000 people at 6,000 people, 3,000 to 6,000 people at one point. meteor, volcano, something. one point. meteor, volcano, something. one point. meteor, volcano, something. Uh, and then we just balloon back up. Uh, and then we just balloon back up. Uh, and then we just balloon back up. And so, society, And so, society, And so, society, life really is this. This, and I'm not life really is this. This, and I'm not life really is this. This, and I'm not kidding, this is why Project Kaizen is kidding, this is why Project Kaizen is kidding, this is why Project Kaizen is an openw world survival crafting game. an openw world survival crafting game. an openw world survival crafting game. I'm secretly I'm never going to market I'm secretly I'm never going to market I'm secretly I'm never going to market this, but I am secretly trying to build this, but I am secretly trying to build this, but I am secretly trying to build a life simulator. It will just take me a a life simulator. It will just take me a a life simulator. It will just take me a very long time to put in all the very long time to put in all the very long time to put in all the technical stuff to actually make that technical stuff to actually make that technical stuff to actually make that plausible and fun. Uh that's why it's an plausible and fun. Uh that's why it's an plausible and fun. Uh that's why it's an openw world survival crafting game. openw world survival crafting game. openw world survival crafting game. That's what life is. And so in an open That's what life is. And so in an open That's what life is. And so in an open world survival crafting game, you are world survival crafting game, you are world survival crafting game, you are trying to get momentum. You're trying to trying to get momentum. You're trying to trying to get momentum. You're trying to accumulate more resources than you need. accumulate more resources than you need. accumulate more resources than you need. And you start going, how do I build And you start going, how do I build And you start going, how do I build protections around this? And that's protections around this? And that's protections around this? And that's society. And so one of the first things society. And so one of the first things society. And so one of the first things you do is we're stronger together than you do is we're stronger together than you do is we're stronger together than we are apart. And so you try to get we are apart. And so you try to get we are apart. And so you try to get people drawn in. And this is why there people drawn in. And this is why there people drawn in. And this is why there is a God-shaped hole in all of us is a God-shaped hole in all of us is a God-shaped hole in all of us because religion is the the most because religion is the the most because religion is the the most flexible way for extraordinarily flexible way for extraordinarily flexible way for extraordinarily extraordinarily large groups of people extraordinarily large groups of people extraordinarily large groups of people to come together and work together. They to come together and work together. They to come together and work together. They don't have to know you. They don't have don't have to know you. They don't have don't have to know you. They don't have to look like you. They don't have to be to look like you. They don't have to be to look like you. They don't have to be from the same place. If you've got the from the same place. If you've got the from the same place. If you've got the same symbols, you're like, "Oh, we're on same symbols, you're like, "Oh, we're on same symbols, you're like, "Oh, we're on the same team." It it is it is truly the same team." It it is it is truly the same team." It it is it is truly extraordinary. So anyway, uh the extraordinary. So anyway, uh the extraordinary. So anyway, uh the chickens and cows and all of that may chickens and cows and all of that may chickens and cows and all of that may help you in a short-term crisis, but help you in a short-term crisis, but help you in a short-term crisis, but know that society will just consolidate know that society will just consolidate know that society will just consolidate again behind you, around you. Watch the again behind you, around you. Watch the again behind you, around you. Watch the show alone. Surviving on your own is show alone. Surviving on your own is show alone. Surviving on your own is basically a one-way ticket to starving basically a one-way ticket to starving basically a one-way ticket to starving to death. And the second you start to death. And the second you start to death. And the second you start regrouping up with other people, you run regrouping up with other people, you run regrouping up with other people, you run into the freeloader problem, yada yada into the freeloader problem, yada yada into the freeloader problem, yada yada yada, and you will find yourself right yada, and you will find yourself right yada, and you will find yourself right back here. Um, okay. We we got to move back here. Um, okay. We we got to move back here. Um, okay. We we got to move on topics, but there's a couple things on topics, but there's a couple things on topics, but there's a couple things we haven't hit, um, regarding the Epste we haven't hit, um, regarding the Epste we haven't hit, um, regarding the Epste stuff. So, I want to do a couple quick stuff. So, I want to do a couple quick stuff. So, I want to do a couple quick hits on this. Um, the first one, uh, hits on this. Um, the first one, uh, hits on this. Um, the first one, uh, conspiracy corner disclaimer allegedly. conspiracy corner disclaimer allegedly. conspiracy corner disclaimer allegedly. Um, don't sue us. Um, Um, don't sue us. Um, Um, don't sue us. Um, I know you heard about this one. Steve I know you heard about this one. Steve I know you heard about this one. Steve Bannon laundering money through World of Bannon laundering money through World of Bannon laundering money through World of Warcraft. Warcraft. Warcraft. >> Yo, >> Yo, >> Yo, the Steve Bannon stuff is already scary. the Steve Bannon stuff is already scary. the Steve Bannon stuff is already scary. Uh, like that one I don't think goes Uh, like that one I don't think goes Uh, like that one I don't think goes away. At a minimum, it feels like a bus away. At a minimum, it feels like a bus away. At a minimum, it feels like a bus is headed towards that guy, even if it's is headed towards that guy, even if it's is headed towards that guy, even if it's only in the court of public opinion, but only in the court of public opinion, but only in the court of public opinion, but the World of Warcraft stuff is crazy. the World of Warcraft stuff is crazy. the World of Warcraft stuff is crazy. So, Drew, this So, Drew, this So, Drew, this if screaming would help, I would scream. if screaming would help, I would scream. if screaming would help, I would scream. It might make the clip go viral. If I It might make the clip go viral. If I It might make the clip go viral. If I look [laughter] like a total maniac, but look [laughter] like a total maniac, but look [laughter] like a total maniac, but it it will it will not help my it it will it will not help my it it will it will not help my credibility. This is what I'm saying. If credibility. This is what I'm saying. If credibility. This is what I'm saying. If you have a system that can be exploited, you have a system that can be exploited, you have a system that can be exploited, it will be exploited. This is why uh it will be exploited. This is why uh it will be exploited. This is why uh Kaizen is now a single player game. Kaizen is now a single player game. Kaizen is now a single player game. Originally I was going to do like Originally I was going to do like Originally I was going to do like multiplayer and then I realized you have multiplayer and then I realized you have multiplayer and then I realized you have to be so good technically to block like to be so good technically to block like to be so good technically to block like predators and stuff from coming in the predators and stuff from coming in the predators and stuff from coming in the game to exploit kids. So I was like, game to exploit kids. So I was like, game to exploit kids. So I was like, "Yep, nope. We're not ready for that." "Yep, nope. We're not ready for that." "Yep, nope. We're not ready for that." Like maybe years down the road we'll Like maybe years down the road we'll Like maybe years down the road we'll have the funding and all that that we have the funding and all that that we have the funding and all that that we need to to really take that on. But like need to to really take that on. But like need to to really take that on. But like if people can find a way to you you if people can find a way to you you if people can find a way to you you couldn't even transact with real money couldn't even transact with real money couldn't even transact with real money inside of World of Warcraft. So now inside of World of Warcraft. So now inside of World of Warcraft. So now you've got to build an account up, you've got to build an account up, you've got to build an account up, collect all the gold, take the account, collect all the gold, take the account, collect all the gold, take the account, username, password, and go sell it on username, password, and go sell it on username, password, and go sell it on like eBay and [ __ ] And it's like if like eBay and [ __ ] And it's like if like eBay and [ __ ] And it's like if people will go that hard and you can people will go that hard and you can people will go that hard and you can create a secondary economy there when create a secondary economy there when create a secondary economy there when the game is actively trying to stop it, the game is actively trying to stop it, the game is actively trying to stop it, it's like any system that can be it's like any system that can be it's like any system that can be exploited will be exploited. So yeah, exploited will be exploited. So yeah, exploited will be exploited. So yeah, they're in video games, they're using they're in video games, they're using they're in video games, they're using chats, they're using People were like, chats, they're using People were like, chats, they're using People were like, "Why does he send emails to himself?" I "Why does he send emails to himself?" I "Why does he send emails to himself?" I don't know that he sent an email to don't know that he sent an email to don't know that he sent an email to himself, but he certainly was using himself, but he certainly was using himself, but he certainly was using saved drafts because you save a draft, saved drafts because you save a draft, saved drafts because you save a draft, you give somebody else access to it, and you give somebody else access to it, and you give somebody else access to it, and now it's never been sent and so it now it's never been sent and so it now it's never been sent and so it becomes that much more private. It becomes that much more private. It becomes that much more private. It becomes difficult for interception to becomes difficult for interception to becomes difficult for interception to happen, things like that. People get happen, things like that. People get happen, things like that. People get very clever. very clever. very clever. >> Um, next quick hit. The statement that >> Um, next quick hit. The statement that >> Um, next quick hit. The statement that announced Jeffrey Epstein's death announced Jeffrey Epstein's death announced Jeffrey Epstein's death emerged from the files, but it was a day emerged from the files, but it was a day emerged from the files, but it was a day before he allegedly killed himself. before he allegedly killed himself. before he allegedly killed himself. Yeah. I mean, look, I can spin up a Yeah. I mean, look, I can spin up a Yeah. I mean, look, I can spin up a explanation for that where it's just the explanation for that where it's just the explanation for that where it's just the letter head has the wrong date on it. letter head has the wrong date on it. letter head has the wrong date on it. So, it doesn't take a lot to be like, So, it doesn't take a lot to be like, So, it doesn't take a lot to be like, it's legit, but like [ __ ] what a dumb it's legit, but like [ __ ] what a dumb it's legit, but like [ __ ] what a dumb mistake. Like, it's going to now people mistake. Like, it's going to now people mistake. Like, it's going to now people are going to run with it. are going to run with it. are going to run with it. >> Turn just to hit six instead of a seven >> Turn just to hit six instead of a seven >> Turn just to hit six instead of a seven type thing. But type thing. But type thing. But >> now, confession. >> now, confession. >> now, confession. I really want to believe this one. I really want to believe this one. I really want to believe this one. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Like this one, the one where the >> Like this one, the one where the >> Like this one, the one where the government's like, uh, I saw a meme. In government's like, uh, I saw a meme. In government's like, uh, I saw a meme. In fact, I pulled it I think for the Friday fact, I pulled it I think for the Friday fact, I pulled it I think for the Friday episode, but we didn't show it. And the episode, but we didn't show it. And the episode, but we didn't show it. And the meme was like, um, condolences are meme was like, um, condolences are meme was like, um, condolences are pouring in to Gla Maxwell who will pass pouring in to Gla Maxwell who will pass pouring in to Gla Maxwell who will pass away tomorrow. [laughter] away tomorrow. [laughter] away tomorrow. [laughter] And I was in hysterics. That's very And I was in hysterics. That's very And I was in hysterics. That's very funny. Um, but yeah, so that one could funny. Um, but yeah, so that one could funny. Um, but yeah, so that one could be it's way too easy for that one to be be it's way too easy for that one to be be it's way too easy for that one to be an innocent mistake for me to get too up an innocent mistake for me to get too up an innocent mistake for me to get too up in arms. But that is one of the most in arms. But that is one of the most in arms. But that is one of the most >> the ones that I'm like most drawn >> the ones that I'm like most drawn >> the ones that I'm like most drawn towards where I secretly want. towards where I secretly want. towards where I secretly want. >> Yeah, that one tickles me in some weird >> Yeah, that one tickles me in some weird >> Yeah, that one tickles me in some weird way. way. way. >> Um, claims that there were bodies found >> Um, claims that there were bodies found >> Um, claims that there were bodies found on Epstein Island. Um, at least with on Epstein Island. Um, at least with on Epstein Island. Um, at least with this one, this to me this is like where this one, this to me this is like where this one, this to me this is like where there's smoke. What does excavation there's smoke. What does excavation there's smoke. What does excavation cost? How much do we spend on gold cost? How much do we spend on gold cost? How much do we spend on gold chairs in the White House? We can at chairs in the White House? We can at chairs in the White House? We can at least, you know, just like you said, get least, you know, just like you said, get least, you know, just like you said, get a scanner somewhere at least just just a scanner somewhere at least just just a scanner somewhere at least just just to calm the people a little bit to calm the people a little bit to calm the people a little bit >> with with the radar, LAR, whatever. I'm >> with with the radar, LAR, whatever. I'm >> with with the radar, LAR, whatever. I'm getting the tech wrong. getting the tech wrong. getting the tech wrong. Yeah, you can find something. Yeah, you can find something. Yeah, you can find something. >> I think you can even do it from >> I think you can even do it from >> I think you can even do it from satellites. So, I don't want to hear satellites. So, I don't want to hear satellites. So, I don't want to hear some [ __ ] about we can't do it or some [ __ ] about we can't do it or some [ __ ] about we can't do it or whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Uh, yeah. If if Okay. >> Uh, yeah. If if Okay. >> Uh, yeah. If if Okay. what they've done with the pyramids what they've done with the pyramids what they've done with the pyramids >> shows it's possible. So if we don't do >> shows it's possible. So if we don't do >> shows it's possible. So if we don't do it, it is a lack of will. it, it is a lack of will. it, it is a lack of will. >> Now, do I think that the government has >> Now, do I think that the government has >> Now, do I think that the government has a lack of will? Yes, very aggressively. a lack of will? Yes, very aggressively. a lack of will? Yes, very aggressively. But this is one that we could find out But this is one that we could find out But this is one that we could find out pretty quickly. Also, if I'm not pretty quickly. Also, if I'm not pretty quickly. Also, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know how long it mistaken, I don't know how long it mistaken, I don't know how long it lasts, but there are dogs that can smell lasts, but there are dogs that can smell lasts, but there are dogs that can smell decomposition. Now maybe it's like well decomposition. Now maybe it's like well decomposition. Now maybe it's like well it works for the first couple months and it works for the first couple months and it works for the first couple months and then after that it doesn't work but I then after that it doesn't work but I then after that it doesn't work but I don't know this this one feels like we don't know this this one feels like we don't know this this one feels like we could do a lot of things could do a lot of things could do a lot of things >> from a first principal perspective it >> from a first principal perspective it >> from a first principal perspective it could be solved. could be solved. could be solved. >> You don't you don't have to go and like >> You don't you don't have to go and like >> You don't you don't have to go and like excavate uh you know six feet across the excavate uh you know six feet across the excavate uh you know six feet across the entire island like this is one where entire island like this is one where entire island like this is one where almost certain this is one where for almost certain this is one where for almost certain this is one where for sure the technology exists. Now whether sure the technology exists. Now whether sure the technology exists. Now whether we're we have the will to spend the we're we have the will to spend the we're we have the will to spend the money is another question. money is another question. money is another question. Um, Fortnite community noted the fake Um, Fortnite community noted the fake Um, Fortnite community noted the fake Epstein thing, so we can put that one to Epstein thing, so we can put that one to Epstein thing, so we can put that one to bed. Um, I know we talked about that bed. Um, I know we talked about that bed. Um, I know we talked about that last week. So, they said that a username last week. So, they said that a username last week. So, they said that a username just switched it once they found out just switched it once they found out just switched it once they found out about his YouTube account. So, about his YouTube account. So, about his YouTube account. So, >> there there's there's some drama there. >> there there's there's some drama there. >> there there's there's some drama there. I don't know all the ins and outs. I I don't know all the ins and outs. I I don't know all the ins and outs. I didn't do a full deep dive on that one, didn't do a full deep dive on that one, didn't do a full deep dive on that one, but it was like first of all, uh, but it was like first of all, uh, but it was like first of all, uh, Fortnite was like this is like nothing Fortnite was like this is like nothing Fortnite was like this is like nothing burger everybody. And then people were burger everybody. And then people were burger everybody. And then people were like, "Fuck you. There's so much data. like, "Fuck you. There's so much data. like, "Fuck you. There's so much data. We can just track all this stuff back." We can just track all this stuff back." We can just track all this stuff back." And so they went and looked at like I And so they went and looked at like I And so they went and looked at like I guess they do a yearly recap that shows guess they do a yearly recap that shows guess they do a yearly recap that shows who the players are that play the most who the players are that play the most who the players are that play the most and it must go down thousands of people. and it must go down thousands of people. and it must go down thousands of people. >> Uh and so they found that in 2025, long >> Uh and so they found that in 2025, long >> Uh and so they found that in 2025, long before the files started coming out, before the files started coming out, before the files started coming out, this person that account was active. this person that account was active. this person that account was active. >> Now my thing with this is it just seems >> Now my thing with this is it just seems >> Now my thing with this is it just seems impossible that he's such a criminal impossible that he's such a criminal impossible that he's such a criminal mastermind and then is dumb enough to mastermind and then is dumb enough to mastermind and then is dumb enough to play the same account. I mean it doesn't play the same account. I mean it doesn't play the same account. I mean it doesn't violate the laws of physics, but oo violate the laws of physics, but oo violate the laws of physics, but oo buddy. Like that just seems buddy. Like that just seems buddy. Like that just seems >> But who really thinks Jeffrey Epstein is >> But who really thinks Jeffrey Epstein is >> But who really thinks Jeffrey Epstein is playing Fortnite? That wasn't on my playing Fortnite? That wasn't on my playing Fortnite? That wasn't on my bingo card. bingo card. bingo card. >> Oh, he really does seem to be a gamer. >> Oh, he really does seem to be a gamer. >> Oh, he really does seem to be a gamer. He was playing Call of Duty. Got kicked He was playing Call of Duty. Got kicked He was playing Call of Duty. Got kicked out of Call of Duty for being, I guess, out of Call of Duty for being, I guess, out of Call of Duty for being, I guess, just absolutely horrible in lobbies. So, just absolutely horrible in lobbies. So, just absolutely horrible in lobbies. So, here's here's the thing. Okay, you want here's here's the thing. Okay, you want here's here's the thing. Okay, you want like a really mundane thing. like a really mundane thing. like a really mundane thing. We all have to fill our waking hours We all have to fill our waking hours We all have to fill our waking hours with something. with something. with something. >> That's what I like. He can't do >> That's what I like. He can't do >> That's what I like. He can't do anything. He can't call nobody. He can't anything. He can't call nobody. He can't anything. He can't call nobody. He can't touch girls anymore. He could Fortnite. touch girls anymore. He could Fortnite. touch girls anymore. He could Fortnite. That seems the most plausible out of all That seems the most plausible out of all That seems the most plausible out of all the things. So, it's like you can only the things. So, it's like you can only the things. So, it's like you can only have so many unhinged satanic parties, have so many unhinged satanic parties, have so many unhinged satanic parties, bro, before you like just got to jump in bro, before you like just got to jump in bro, before you like just got to jump in that cod lobby. So, that cod lobby. So, that cod lobby. So, >> um >> um >> um >> yeah, it's wild. >> yeah, it's wild. >> yeah, it's wild. >> Okay, then last thing on this. Um should >> Okay, then last thing on this. Um should >> Okay, then last thing on this. Um should we borrow the European model, should we borrow the European model, should we borrow the European model, should Lutnik at least have to step aside, take Lutnik at least have to step aside, take Lutnik at least have to step aside, take a leave of absence? Something because I a leave of absence? Something because I a leave of absence? Something because I just because he's this close to the just because he's this close to the just because he's this close to the administration and the rumors are administration and the rumors are administration and the rumors are swirling this hard. swirling this hard. swirling this hard. >> Dude, I don't see how he survives this. >> Dude, I don't see how he survives this. >> Dude, I don't see how he survives this. But the bad news is I think he's going But the bad news is I think he's going But the bad news is I think he's going to to to >> Yeah. I I don't I don't know like what there's I I don't I don't know like what there's um [snorts] I think it goes something um [snorts] I think it goes something um [snorts] I think it goes something like this. [laughter] like this. [laughter] like this. [laughter] So I have a really bad feeling. So I have a really bad feeling. So I have a really bad feeling. >> It's like that Spongebob meme where >> It's like that Spongebob meme where >> It's like that Spongebob meme where you're just kind of breathing on the you're just kind of breathing on the you're just kind of breathing on the side. side. side. >> Oh well [laughter] I think this is this >> Oh well [laughter] I think this is this >> Oh well [laughter] I think this is this is uh if you're Trump is uh if you're Trump is uh if you're Trump >> and you're like I'm in the files >> and you're like I'm in the files >> and you're like I'm in the files >> I can't remember if he's number one but >> I can't remember if he's number one but >> I can't remember if he's number one but if he's not number one he's like real if he's not number one he's like real if he's not number one he's like real real close in terms of number of real close in terms of number of real close in terms of number of mentions. mentions. mentions. Um, if I say that Lutnik merely knowing Um, if I say that Lutnik merely knowing Um, if I say that Lutnik merely knowing this guy means he has to resign, then this guy means he has to resign, then this guy means he has to resign, then that means it's a bad thing on me. And that means it's a bad thing on me. And that means it's a bad thing on me. And so I think there would have to be a so I think there would have to be a so I think there would have to be a tremendous amount of pressure, like tremendous amount of pressure, like tremendous amount of pressure, like ungodly amounts of pressure to get rid ungodly amounts of pressure to get rid ungodly amounts of pressure to get rid of him before he would get rid of him. I of him before he would get rid of him. I of him before he would get rid of him. I think the thing that Trump prizes above think the thing that Trump prizes above think the thing that Trump prizes above all is loyalty. And if Lutnik is loyal all is loyalty. And if Lutnik is loyal all is loyalty. And if Lutnik is loyal to Trump but happens to have a bunch of to Trump but happens to have a bunch of to Trump but happens to have a bunch of kids buried under his swimming pool, me kids buried under his swimming pool, me kids buried under his swimming pool, me it's like as long as he's loyal. So I it's like as long as he's loyal. So I it's like as long as he's loyal. So I fear it goes something like that. And fear it goes something like that. And fear it goes something like that. And that was all hyperbole lest somebody that was all hyperbole lest somebody that was all hyperbole lest somebody thinks I'm actually accusing him of thinks I'm actually accusing him of thinks I'm actually accusing him of that. I am very much not. that. I am very much not. that. I am very much not. >> Um and I'm not feeling suicidal just as >> Um and I'm not feeling suicidal just as >> Um and I'm not feeling suicidal just as a nice constant reminder. a nice constant reminder. a nice constant reminder. >> Um so yeah. Uh, okay. Let's jump over to >> Um so yeah. Uh, okay. Let's jump over to >> Um so yeah. Uh, okay. Let's jump over to there's been some speculation. Um, I there's been some speculation. Um, I there's been some speculation. Um, I don't know if you realized, um, the last don't know if you realized, um, the last don't know if you realized, um, the last like two or three weeks there's been a like two or three weeks there's been a like two or three weeks there's been a lot of breakthroughs in a whole bunch of lot of breakthroughs in a whole bunch of lot of breakthroughs in a whole bunch of different medicines and stuff like that. different medicines and stuff like that. different medicines and stuff like that. People are saying that allegedly once People are saying that allegedly once People are saying that allegedly once the US left the WHO, the US left the WHO, the US left the WHO, >> they were kind of big farmer was holding >> they were kind of big farmer was holding >> they were kind of big farmer was holding the the floodgates and now that we're the the floodgates and now that we're the the floodgates and now that we're gone, all these cancer cures have just gone, all these cancer cures have just gone, all these cancer cures have just popped out. Um, popped out. Um, popped out. Um, >> this this is my concern that we become >> this this is my concern that we become >> this this is my concern that we become conspiracyrained. conspiracyrained. conspiracyrained. >> Yeah. And uh listen there we obviously >> Yeah. And uh listen there we obviously >> Yeah. And uh listen there we obviously weren't conspiracyrained enough so fair weren't conspiracyrained enough so fair weren't conspiracyrained enough so fair enough. Uh Bill Maher said where does enough. Uh Bill Maher said where does enough. Uh Bill Maher said where does QAnon go for their apology? I [laughter] QAnon go for their apology? I [laughter] QAnon go for their apology? I [laughter] think it's a you know it's an think it's a you know it's an think it's a you know it's an interesting question but we run the risk interesting question but we run the risk interesting question but we run the risk of the second something comes out that of the second something comes out that of the second something comes out that when somebody says this is all fake that when somebody says this is all fake that when somebody says this is all fake that we just go yeah everything is fake and we just go yeah everything is fake and we just go yeah everything is fake and now we can't just as dumb as it is to now we can't just as dumb as it is to now we can't just as dumb as it is to say nothing is fake saying everything is say nothing is fake saying everything is say nothing is fake saying everything is fake is equally um low utility fake is equally um low utility fake is equally um low utility >> so we've got to be a little bit careful >> so we've got to be a little bit careful >> so we've got to be a little bit careful so in looking at this um yeah I think so in looking at this um yeah I think so in looking at this um yeah I think that things are very different than that things are very different than that things are very different than what's being portrayed there's a what's being portrayed there's a what's being portrayed there's a narrative that's picking up steam narrative that's picking up steam narrative that's picking up steam online. Uh, basically big pharma is online. Uh, basically big pharma is online. Uh, basically big pharma is burying cancer cures because they're bad burying cancer cures because they're bad burying cancer cures because they're bad for the business. Now, listen, in all for the business. Now, listen, in all for the business. Now, listen, in all honesty, I'm sure there are plenty of honesty, I'm sure there are plenty of honesty, I'm sure there are plenty of people in big pharma that have said will people in big pharma that have said will people in big pharma that have said will continue to say things like, um, we continue to say things like, um, we continue to say things like, um, we discover industries or business models. discover industries or business models. discover industries or business models. We're not necessarily in the business of We're not necessarily in the business of We're not necessarily in the business of coming up with a cure, but coming up with a cure, but coming up with a cure, but people think of legacy often before people think of legacy often before people think of legacy often before anything else. And the pressure to not anything else. And the pressure to not anything else. And the pressure to not pressure, the the victory that would be pressure, the the victory that would be pressure, the the victory that would be to be the one to cure cancer is so to be the one to cure cancer is so to be the one to cure cancer is so extreme that I think that assuming that extreme that I think that assuming that extreme that I think that assuming that that can be shut down by big pharma is a that can be shut down by big pharma is a that can be shut down by big pharma is a mistake. But the rumor that's mistake. But the rumor that's mistake. But the rumor that's circulating goes like this. The US circulating goes like this. The US circulating goes like this. The US pulled out of the World Health pulled out of the World Health pulled out of the World Health Organization uh because of that big Organization uh because of that big Organization uh because of that big pharma lost its enforcement arm and now pharma lost its enforcement arm and now pharma lost its enforcement arm and now suddenly all these cancer cures are suddenly all these cancer cures are suddenly all these cancer cures are pouring out because they can't be pouring out because they can't be pouring out because they can't be suppressed anymore. Now, from looking at suppressed anymore. Now, from looking at suppressed anymore. Now, from looking at it, the breakthroughs actually appear to it, the breakthroughs actually appear to it, the breakthroughs actually appear to be real. That part people really are be real. That part people really are be real. That part people really are getting right. Like, all of a sudden, getting right. Like, all of a sudden, getting right. Like, all of a sudden, we're getting a lot of really exciting we're getting a lot of really exciting we're getting a lot of really exciting breakthroughs. 2025 was a landmark year breakthroughs. 2025 was a landmark year breakthroughs. 2025 was a landmark year for cancer treatment. The FDA actually for cancer treatment. The FDA actually for cancer treatment. The FDA actually issued 52 cancer drug approval issued 52 cancer drug approval issued 52 cancer drug approval announcements, but the important part is announcements, but the important part is announcements, but the important part is that over 70% of them were that over 70% of them were that over 70% of them were amunotherapies and targeted therapies, amunotherapies and targeted therapies, amunotherapies and targeted therapies, the very thing that people are saying the very thing that people are saying the very thing that people are saying they're never going to let through. So, they're never going to let through. So, they're never going to let through. So, a ton were coming out in 25. a ton were a ton were coming out in 25. a ton were a ton were coming out in 25. a ton were being approved by the FDA, which is being approved by the FDA, which is being approved by the FDA, which is actually what matters. So again, like it actually what matters. So again, like it actually what matters. So again, like it doesn't square with what people are doesn't square with what people are doesn't square with what people are saying about the WHO. Uh the things that saying about the WHO. Uh the things that saying about the WHO. Uh the things that are coming, we're talking about are coming, we're talking about are coming, we're talking about personalized mRNA cancer vaccines that personalized mRNA cancer vaccines that personalized mRNA cancer vaccines that train your immune system to attack your train your immune system to attack your train your immune system to attack your specific tumor. So these are CARTT cell specific tumor. So these are CARTT cell specific tumor. So these are CARTT cell therapies that are now moving into therapies that are now moving into therapies that are now moving into outpatient clinics. You've also got outpatient clinics. You've also got outpatient clinics. You've also got crass inhibitors which are drugs that crass inhibitors which are drugs that crass inhibitors which are drugs that target a gene mutation responsible for a target a gene mutation responsible for a target a gene mutation responsible for a quarter of all cancerous tumors that quarter of all cancerous tumors that quarter of all cancerous tumors that scientists spending undruggable. scientists spending undruggable. scientists spending undruggable. Okay, so these are all the things that Okay, so these are all the things that Okay, so these are all the things that we've been hoping and wanting for but we've been hoping and wanting for but we've been hoping and wanting for but they've been going on for a long time they've been going on for a long time they've been going on for a long time coming out largely in 25 long before coming out largely in 25 long before coming out largely in 25 long before what Trump just did. Now in January the what Trump just did. Now in January the what Trump just did. Now in January the FDA granted breakthrough therapy FDA granted breakthrough therapy FDA granted breakthrough therapy designation to the first drug ever to designation to the first drug ever to designation to the first drug ever to specifically target one of those specifically target one of those specifically target one of those mutations. It's a blood test uh that can mutations. It's a blood test uh that can mutations. It's a blood test uh that can detect multiple cancers before symptoms detect multiple cancers before symptoms detect multiple cancers before symptoms even appear. Those are also entering uh even appear. Those are also entering uh even appear. Those are also entering uh clinical use. None of that's hype. This clinical use. None of that's hype. This clinical use. None of that's hype. This is all genuine acceleration in cancer is all genuine acceleration in cancer is all genuine acceleration in cancer science. But where the narrative that science. But where the narrative that science. But where the narrative that this is all part of the US pulling out a this is all part of the US pulling out a this is all part of the US pulling out a who and that big pharma was able to so who and that big pharma was able to so who and that big pharma was able to so successfully pin all this down. Where successfully pin all this down. Where successfully pin all this down. Where that falls apart is that none of this that falls apart is that none of this that falls apart is that none of this has anything to do with the WHO. I'm not has anything to do with the WHO. I'm not has anything to do with the WHO. I'm not going to bat for the WHO. Just assume going to bat for the WHO. Just assume going to bat for the WHO. Just assume the WHO is terrible. But the WHO uh the the WHO is terrible. But the WHO uh the the WHO is terrible. But the WHO uh the World Health Organization, they don't World Health Organization, they don't World Health Organization, they don't approve drugs. So they don't regulate approve drugs. So they don't regulate approve drugs. So they don't regulate what treatments American patients can what treatments American patients can what treatments American patients can access. Has zero authority over the FDA, access. Has zero authority over the FDA, access. Has zero authority over the FDA, which does control what Americans can which does control what Americans can which does control what Americans can access. The WHO role is recommending access. The WHO role is recommending access. The WHO role is recommending international health standards, international health standards, international health standards, coordinating disease surveillance, and coordinating disease surveillance, and coordinating disease surveillance, and helping developing countries build helping developing countries build helping developing countries build health infrastructure. It's not and has health infrastructure. It's not and has health infrastructure. It's not and has never been the gatekeeper standing never been the gatekeeper standing never been the gatekeeper standing between any of us here in the US and between any of us here in the US and between any of us here in the US and cancer treatments. So the US form cancer treatments. So the US form cancer treatments. So the US form formally exiting the WHO on January 22nd formally exiting the WHO on January 22nd formally exiting the WHO on January 22nd of this year seems very unlikely to be of this year seems very unlikely to be of this year seems very unlikely to be the thing that is leading to these the thing that is leading to these the thing that is leading to these breakthroughs coming out now. Um the breakthroughs coming out now. Um the breakthroughs coming out now. Um the crass research that produced these new crass research that produced these new crass research that produced these new drugs started way back in 2013. The M uh drugs started way back in 2013. The M uh drugs started way back in 2013. The M uh mRNA cancer vaccine platform was built mRNA cancer vaccine platform was built mRNA cancer vaccine platform was built on technology developed during COVID. Um on technology developed during COVID. Um on technology developed during COVID. Um menin inhibitors for leukemia went menin inhibitors for leukemia went menin inhibitors for leukemia went through over a decade of clinical through over a decade of clinical through over a decade of clinical trials. So these aren't things that were trials. So these aren't things that were trials. So these aren't things that were just sitting waiting for policy change. just sitting waiting for policy change. just sitting waiting for policy change. And again, the WHO is not responsible And again, the WHO is not responsible And again, the WHO is not responsible for the policy change that would impact for the policy change that would impact for the policy change that would impact this. So they are the output of this. So they are the output of this. So they are the output of thousands of researchers working for thousands of researchers working for thousands of researchers working for years across universities, hospitals, years across universities, hospitals, years across universities, hospitals, biotech startups, and yes, of course, biotech startups, and yes, of course, biotech startups, and yes, of course, pharmaceutical companies who I trust pharmaceutical companies who I trust pharmaceutical companies who I trust about as far as I can throw them. about as far as I can throw them. about as far as I can throw them. >> And so for that reason, because again, >> And so for that reason, because again, >> And so for that reason, because again, I'm not going to bat for any of these I'm not going to bat for any of these I'm not going to bat for any of these institutions. I understand the instinct institutions. I understand the instinct institutions. I understand the instinct behind people distrusting them and behind people distrusting them and behind people distrusting them and thinking that there must be something thinking that there must be something thinking that there must be something funny going on and that the timing is funny going on and that the timing is funny going on and that the timing is really um controversial. My goal would really um controversial. My goal would really um controversial. My goal would be to get people to focus on the real be to get people to focus on the real be to get people to focus on the real thing which is FDA. Man, FDA is a thing which is FDA. Man, FDA is a thing which is FDA. Man, FDA is a problem. Like if you want to bang on problem. Like if you want to bang on problem. Like if you want to bang on somebody's doorstep, bang on the FDA's somebody's doorstep, bang on the FDA's somebody's doorstep, bang on the FDA's doorstep. Now, people obviously have doorstep. Now, people obviously have doorstep. Now, people obviously have reasons to not trust big pharma largely reasons to not trust big pharma largely reasons to not trust big pharma largely because the incentive structure in because the incentive structure in because the incentive structure in healthcare is terrible. It is genuinely healthcare is terrible. It is genuinely healthcare is terrible. It is genuinely misaligned in ways that absolutely hurt misaligned in ways that absolutely hurt misaligned in ways that absolutely hurt all of us as patients. But the specific all of us as patients. But the specific all of us as patients. But the specific claim that a cure for cancer existed and claim that a cure for cancer existed and claim that a cure for cancer existed and was being hidden doesn't really survive was being hidden doesn't really survive was being hidden doesn't really survive contact with basic math. A researcher at contact with basic math. A researcher at contact with basic math. A researcher at Oxford actually ran the math and Oxford actually ran the math and Oxford actually ran the math and estimated that suppressing a single estimated that suppressing a single estimated that suppressing a single cancer cure would require at least cancer cure would require at least cancer cure would require at least 714,000 714,000 714,000 people across the major pharmaceutical people across the major pharmaceutical people across the major pharmaceutical companies and it would require them to companies and it would require them to companies and it would require them to stay silent. If I remember right, he stay silent. If I remember right, he stay silent. If I remember right, he said that the math would it would like said that the math would it would like said that the math would it would like crumble in four years. didn't quite crumble in four years. didn't quite crumble in four years. didn't quite understand why he said four years, but understand why he said four years, but understand why he said four years, but anyway, he claims to have run the math. anyway, he claims to have run the math. anyway, he claims to have run the math. That doesn't include even academic That doesn't include even academic That doesn't include even academic scientists, the FDA, again, where your scientists, the FDA, again, where your scientists, the FDA, again, where your focus should be, health journalists, focus should be, health journalists, focus should be, health journalists, things like that. So, the conspiracy things like that. So, the conspiracy things like that. So, the conspiracy would collapse just based on the sheer would collapse just based on the sheer would collapse just based on the sheer number of people that would have to be number of people that would have to be number of people that would have to be in on it. And if the um if we've learned in on it. And if the um if we've learned in on it. And if the um if we've learned anything from the Epstein files, it's anything from the Epstein files, it's anything from the Epstein files, it's that it's a distressingly small group of that it's a distressingly small group of that it's a distressingly small group of people that can keep these things moving people that can keep these things moving people that can keep these things moving behind the scenes. But a cancer behind the scenes. But a cancer behind the scenes. But a cancer breakthrough when it's controlled by the breakthrough when it's controlled by the breakthrough when it's controlled by the FDA and not the who us pulling out of FDA and not the who us pulling out of FDA and not the who us pulling out of the hoop, I I don't track that. So if we the hoop, I I don't track that. So if we the hoop, I I don't track that. So if we want to say that the FDA was doing want to say that the FDA was doing want to say that the FDA was doing something, hey, I'm glad to look at that something, hey, I'm glad to look at that something, hey, I'm glad to look at that because as somebody formerly from the because as somebody formerly from the because as somebody formerly from the food industry, I do not trust the FDA. I food industry, I do not trust the FDA. I food industry, I do not trust the FDA. I certainly don't trust them to think certainly don't trust them to think certainly don't trust them to think clearly. And if you've watched any of clearly. And if you've watched any of clearly. And if you've watched any of the stuff on oxy uh oxycodone cotton, the stuff on oxy uh oxycodone cotton, the stuff on oxy uh oxycodone cotton, oxycottton, oxycontton, oxycottton, oxycontton, oxycottton, oxycontton, >> uh sus sus. I don't know if that if >> uh sus sus. I don't know if that if >> uh sus sus. I don't know if that if anybody was ever charged, but man, some anybody was ever charged, but man, some anybody was ever charged, but man, some of those documentaries pretty damning in of those documentaries pretty damning in of those documentaries pretty damning in terms of the FDA's involvement. So, terms of the FDA's involvement. So, terms of the FDA's involvement. So, that's how I'd see it. that's how I'd see it. that's how I'd see it. >> That's been wild. Um, I'm not going to >> That's been wild. Um, I'm not going to >> That's been wild. Um, I'm not going to lie, when this first came out, I thought lie, when this first came out, I thought lie, when this first came out, I thought this was part of the Peter Dendez this was part of the Peter Dendez this was part of the Peter Dendez longevity AI is going to start rapidly longevity AI is going to start rapidly longevity AI is going to start rapidly increasing the rate of breakthroughs. increasing the rate of breakthroughs. increasing the rate of breakthroughs. So, I was excited that a lot of these So, I was excited that a lot of these So, I was excited that a lot of these things were coming. Um, things were coming. Um, things were coming. Um, >> that really may be true. By the way, I >> that really may be true. By the way, I >> that really may be true. By the way, I don't know how much of that is tied to don't know how much of that is tied to don't know how much of that is tied to why all of a sudden so many so fast why all of a sudden so many so fast why all of a sudden so many so fast >> people in the medical industry the more >> people in the medical industry the more >> people in the medical industry the more like when we had David Sinclair on like when we had David Sinclair on like when we had David Sinclair on episode coming soon I think episode coming soon I think episode coming soon I think >> um he was saying >> um he was saying >> um he was saying >> the the amount that AI speeds them up >> the the amount that AI speeds them up >> the the amount that AI speeds them up cannot be overstated. It it's radical. cannot be overstated. It it's radical. cannot be overstated. It it's radical. Radical. And given how much it speeds me Radical. And given how much it speeds me Radical. And given how much it speeds me up and like normal stuff, I would not be up and like normal stuff, I would not be up and like normal stuff, I would not be shocked. shocked. shocked. >> Yeah. Um, it'll be nice, but I I do >> Yeah. Um, it'll be nice, but I I do >> Yeah. Um, it'll be nice, but I I do think we have to have a reckoning about think we have to have a reckoning about think we have to have a reckoning about incentives because there is incentives because there is incentives because there is right now pharmaceutical companies are right now pharmaceutical companies are right now pharmaceutical companies are incentivized to have diseases. They're incentivized to have diseases. They're incentivized to have diseases. They're not incentivized for cures. not incentivized for cures. not incentivized for cures. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, there is something that when all >> So, there is something that when all >> So, there is something that when all these cures do rapidly break, is it these cures do rapidly break, is it these cures do rapidly break, is it going to be okay, you can cure cancer, going to be okay, you can cure cancer, going to be okay, you can cure cancer, but it's a $10,000 shot now because they but it's a $10,000 shot now because they but it's a $10,000 shot now because they have to front in all their profits or have to front in all their profits or have to front in all their profits or you know what I mean? And I know we you know what I mean? And I know we you know what I mean? And I know we don't like talking about the the sword don't like talking about the the sword don't like talking about the the sword and we don't like when government gets and we don't like when government gets and we don't like when government gets involved with certain things. involved with certain things. involved with certain things. >> What's the s word? >> What's the s word? >> What's the s word? >> Socialism. >> Socialism. >> Socialism. So, you know, I just feel like there is So, you know, I just feel like there is So, you know, I just feel like there is >> Well, hold on. If you're saying, hey, >> Well, hold on. If you're saying, hey, >> Well, hold on. If you're saying, hey, there might be some things that the there might be some things that the there might be some things that the government should pay for and we should government should pay for and we should government should pay for and we should all want our tax dollars to go to 100%. all want our tax dollars to go to 100%. all want our tax dollars to go to 100%. Let's remember socialism is confiscation Let's remember socialism is confiscation Let's remember socialism is confiscation of the means of production. That's evil. of the means of production. That's evil. of the means of production. That's evil. That's bad. Uh trying to make everything That's bad. Uh trying to make everything That's bad. Uh trying to make everything free, that's evil. That's bad just free, that's evil. That's bad just free, that's evil. That's bad just because of the outcomes. But us all because of the outcomes. But us all because of the outcomes. But us all saying collectively, hey, you know those saying collectively, hey, you know those saying collectively, hey, you know those tax dollars of mine that you're taking, tax dollars of mine that you're taking, tax dollars of mine that you're taking, balance the budget, but now that the balance the budget, but now that the balance the budget, but now that the budget's balanced, here's where I would budget's balanced, here's where I would budget's balanced, here's where I would like to allocate some of my money. I like to allocate some of my money. I like to allocate some of my money. I would like it to go to things that the would like it to go to things that the would like it to go to things that the private sector is not equipped to do private sector is not equipped to do private sector is not equipped to do well, and this would be one of them. So, well, and this would be one of them. So, well, and this would be one of them. So, find a cure where it's like there's find a cure where it's like there's find a cure where it's like there's going to be a ton of money going into it going to be a ton of money going into it going to be a ton of money going into it and then no money that comes out of it and then no money that comes out of it and then no money that comes out of it because it just makes the thing go away. because it just makes the thing go away. because it just makes the thing go away. It's a great use of money. Um, I wasn't It's a great use of money. Um, I wasn't It's a great use of money. Um, I wasn't alive at the time, but I love that I alive at the time, but I love that I alive at the time, but I love that I grew up in the afterlow of the US grew up in the afterlow of the US grew up in the afterlow of the US government, uh, JFK giving a speech government, uh, JFK giving a speech government, uh, JFK giving a speech saying, "We're going to the moon not saying, "We're going to the moon not saying, "We're going to the moon not because it's easy, but because it's because it's easy, but because it's because it's easy, but because it's hard." Doing it because we want to dunk hard." Doing it because we want to dunk hard." Doing it because we want to dunk on Russia. That's dope. Like, people on Russia. That's dope. Like, people on Russia. That's dope. Like, people don't understand those things are dope. don't understand those things are dope. don't understand those things are dope. They are good. You want to rile your They are good. You want to rile your They are good. You want to rile your team up. You want your team to believe team up. You want your team to believe team up. You want your team to believe in you, what you're about, and that you in you, what you're about, and that you in you, what you're about, and that you guys are going to be the best on the guys are going to be the best on the guys are going to be the best on the block. Russia should be saying the same block. Russia should be saying the same block. Russia should be saying the same thing. Earjan should be saying everybody thing. Earjan should be saying everybody thing. Earjan should be saying everybody should like be going to bat for their should like be going to bat for their should like be going to bat for their team. We want to live in a world where team. We want to live in a world where team. We want to live in a world where people play fair. We don't want war, but people play fair. We don't want war, but people play fair. We don't want war, but you want people like doing the radish you want people like doing the radish you want people like doing the radish [ __ ] ever because they want to show that [ __ ] ever because they want to show that [ __ ] ever because they want to show that they're the best. And so us putting they're the best. And so us putting they're the best. And so us putting dollars behind the space program. Hell dollars behind the space program. Hell dollars behind the space program. Hell yeah. Like let's go to uh excite to yeah. Like let's go to uh excite to yeah. Like let's go to uh excite to thrill whatever. Like there there are thrill whatever. Like there there are thrill whatever. Like there there are very good reasons even beyond the very good reasons even beyond the very good reasons even beyond the science of all that to do that. uh you science of all that to do that. uh you science of all that to do that. uh you can obviously get into the military can obviously get into the military can obviously get into the military aspect of you don't want your biggest aspect of you don't want your biggest aspect of you don't want your biggest rival to own space but even without that rival to own space but even without that rival to own space but even without that I think that there are incredible I think that there are incredible I think that there are incredible reasons to do it. So I for one as the reasons to do it. So I for one as the reasons to do it. So I for one as the most aggressively antisocialism most aggressively antisocialism most aggressively antisocialism recognize that 52ish% of my dollars are recognize that 52ish% of my dollars are recognize that 52ish% of my dollars are being taken. So I would just like them being taken. So I would just like them being taken. So I would just like them to go to something that actually makes to go to something that actually makes to go to something that actually makes sense. Uh and that would be one of them. sense. Uh and that would be one of them. sense. Uh and that would be one of them. >> Yeah. Um, so it's it's just going to be >> Yeah. Um, so it's it's just going to be >> Yeah. Um, so it's it's just going to be interesting to see how that incentive interesting to see how that incentive interesting to see how that incentive reckoning happens across industries. Um, reckoning happens across industries. Um, reckoning happens across industries. Um, because it's going to start happening. because it's going to start happening. because it's going to start happening. >> It won't it will happen poorly. We I >> It won't it will happen poorly. We I >> It won't it will happen poorly. We I mean, look, maybe all of this mean, look, maybe all of this mean, look, maybe all of this >> are like the um the final death throws >> are like the um the final death throws >> are like the um the final death throws of a system that needed to be of a system that needed to be of a system that needed to be dramatically overhauled. And maybe dramatically overhauled. And maybe dramatically overhauled. And maybe something beautiful and wonderful comes something beautiful and wonderful comes something beautiful and wonderful comes out the other side. And maybe we really out the other side. And maybe we really out the other side. And maybe we really do uh get rid of the Fed uh or at least do uh get rid of the Fed uh or at least do uh get rid of the Fed uh or at least dramatically alter the way that it works dramatically alter the way that it works dramatically alter the way that it works as we unwind it slowly over time. Um as we unwind it slowly over time. Um as we unwind it slowly over time. Um maybe we really do get to a point where maybe we really do get to a point where maybe we really do get to a point where we can balance the budget and people we can balance the budget and people we can balance the budget and people accept a certain level of austerity. accept a certain level of austerity. accept a certain level of austerity. Maybe AI really does grow so much, make Maybe AI really does grow so much, make Maybe AI really does grow so much, make so many things possible and yet remain so many things possible and yet remain so many things possible and yet remain in our control that like we're able to in our control that like we're able to in our control that like we're able to grow our way out of the big problems and grow our way out of the big problems and grow our way out of the big problems and there really is enough for everybody and there really is enough for everybody and there really is enough for everybody and uh enough people can understand how uh enough people can understand how uh enough people can understand how assets work that it's just not a good assets work that it's just not a good assets work that it's just not a good way to take advantage of people anymore way to take advantage of people anymore way to take advantage of people anymore because if once people understand because if once people understand because if once people understand finance they can't be abused by it. Mhm. finance they can't be abused by it. Mhm. finance they can't be abused by it. Mhm. >> So, uh, you know, those are all the >> So, uh, you know, those are all the >> So, uh, you know, those are all the things that we can hope, but there right things that we can hope, but there right things that we can hope, but there right now we do not show any inclination that now we do not show any inclination that now we do not show any inclination that we're going to shut the, um, the we're going to shut the, um, the we're going to shut the, um, the perverse incentives down. perverse incentives down. perverse incentives down. >> Well, something else is on the cusp of >> Well, something else is on the cusp of >> Well, something else is on the cusp of getting shut down. Um, a landmark big getting shut down. Um, a landmark big getting shut down. Um, a landmark big tech case is coming to America. Um it tech case is coming to America. Um it tech case is coming to America. Um it already played out in Europe and it already played out in Europe and it already played out in Europe and it played out in Australia where they have played out in Australia where they have played out in Australia where they have social media bans at 16 now. Um there social media bans at 16 now. Um there social media bans at 16 now. Um there are two simultaneous lawsuits happening are two simultaneous lawsuits happening are two simultaneous lawsuits happening in California and New Mexico and opening in California and New Mexico and opening in California and New Mexico and opening argument started today. Today opening argument started today. Today opening argument started today. Today opening statement set to begin in the landmark statement set to begin in the landmark statement set to begin in the landmark social media trial against the world's social media trial against the world's social media trial against the world's biggest tech companies accused of biggest tech companies accused of biggest tech companies accused of harming children and fueling addiction. harming children and fueling addiction. harming children and fueling addiction. Top CEOs like Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg Top CEOs like Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg Top CEOs like Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg expected to testify, but his company is expected to testify, but his company is expected to testify, but his company is already playing defense, releasing this already playing defense, releasing this already playing defense, releasing this statement. Quote, "We strongly disagree statement. Quote, "We strongly disagree statement. Quote, "We strongly disagree with these allegations and are confident with these allegations and are confident with these allegations and are confident the evidence will show our long-standing the evidence will show our long-standing the evidence will show our long-standing commitment to supporting young people. commitment to supporting young people. commitment to supporting young people. For over a decade, we've listened to For over a decade, we've listened to For over a decade, we've listened to parents, worked with experts and law parents, worked with experts and law parents, worked with experts and law enforcement, and conducted indepth enforcement, and conducted indepth enforcement, and conducted indepth research to understand the issues that research to understand the issues that research to understand the issues that matter most." Here to break it all down matter most." Here to break it all down matter most." Here to break it all down for us, attorney and MRC vice president for us, attorney and MRC vice president for us, attorney and MRC vice president for free speech for a sec. This is where for free speech for a sec. This is where for free speech for a sec. This is where um um um the incentives really become a problem. the incentives really become a problem. the incentives really become a problem. So if you have a model where uh you want So if you have a model where uh you want So if you have a model where uh you want people to spend as much time as humanly people to spend as much time as humanly people to spend as much time as humanly possible on your platform and you see possible on your platform and you see possible on your platform and you see that data is coming out that says that data is coming out that says that data is coming out that says spending extraordinary amounts of time spending extraordinary amounts of time spending extraordinary amounts of time on your platform are causing cognitive on your platform are causing cognitive on your platform are causing cognitive issues. issues. issues. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> you're in a bad spot because you really >> you're in a bad spot because you really >> you're in a bad spot because you really can't from a public company. This is can't from a public company. This is can't from a public company. This is another reason I don't want to be a another reason I don't want to be a another reason I don't want to be a public company. You've got so much public company. You've got so much public company. You've got so much pressure from investors to do that thing pressure from investors to do that thing pressure from investors to do that thing uh that it's good luck getting a man to uh that it's good luck getting a man to uh that it's good luck getting a man to understand something that which is understand something that which is understand something that which is paycheck insists he does not understand. paycheck insists he does not understand. paycheck insists he does not understand. Right? So um it's I'm not going to buy Right? So um it's I'm not going to buy Right? So um it's I'm not going to buy anything that Meta says. You're you're anything that Meta says. You're you're anything that Meta says. You're you're in a position of you've got motivated in a position of you've got motivated in a position of you've got motivated reasoning if nothing else. reasoning if nothing else. reasoning if nothing else. >> Um if I were a parent I would not let my >> Um if I were a parent I would not let my >> Um if I were a parent I would not let my kids on social media until they're 16. kids on social media until they're 16. kids on social media until they're 16. if I could push it 18 25 like it's if I could push it 18 25 like it's if I could push it 18 25 like it's >> it is at a headline level it does not >> it is at a headline level it does not >> it is at a headline level it does not appear to be good for the brain. The appear to be good for the brain. The appear to be good for the brain. The brain is what I'm worried about even brain is what I'm worried about even brain is what I'm worried about even more than I'm worried about like the more than I'm worried about like the more than I'm worried about like the psychological impact. I'm worried about psychological impact. I'm worried about psychological impact. I'm worried about when your brain is developing when your brain is developing when your brain is developing it is going to adjust down different it is going to adjust down different it is going to adjust down different pathing depending on the environment pathing depending on the environment pathing depending on the environment that it grows up in. And if you're in an that it grows up in. And if you're in an that it grows up in. And if you're in an environment where you're just constantly environment where you're just constantly environment where you're just constantly scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, like get these hyper rapid scrolling, like get these hyper rapid scrolling, like get these hyper rapid dopamine hits, your brain adjusts to dopamine hits, your brain adjusts to dopamine hits, your brain adjusts to that. And so now you get to the point that. And so now you get to the point that. And so now you get to the point where your brain is designed to work in where your brain is designed to work in where your brain is designed to work in a way where you're getting that constant a way where you're getting that constant a way where you're getting that constant stimulus. And when you don't get it, stimulus. And when you don't get it, stimulus. And when you don't get it, then it's not operating as usual, it's then it's not operating as usual, it's then it's not operating as usual, it's going to squawk. And that's kids getting going to squawk. And that's kids getting going to squawk. And that's kids getting agitated, irritated, freaking out, got agitated, irritated, freaking out, got agitated, irritated, freaking out, got to have it, throwing tantrums, kicking, to have it, throwing tantrums, kicking, to have it, throwing tantrums, kicking, breaking, breaking, breaking, >> um, all that stuff. And so the bad news >> um, all that stuff. And so the bad news >> um, all that stuff. And so the bad news about brain development is as you get about brain development is as you get about brain development is as you get older you can change your you can create older you can change your you can create older you can change your you can create new neurons until the day you die. All new neurons until the day you die. All new neurons until the day you die. All of that stuff is very real. The problem of that stuff is very real. The problem of that stuff is very real. The problem is that the period of hyperbrain is that the period of hyperbrain is that the period of hyperbrain plasticity is like up through 11 and plasticity is like up through 11 and plasticity is like up through 11 and then every day after that it gets less. then every day after that it gets less. then every day after that it gets less. And so what changes would have been easy And so what changes would have been easy And so what changes would have been easy until you're 11 become a little bit until you're 11 become a little bit until you're 11 become a little bit harder. And by the time you're 18 you're harder. And by the time you're 18 you're harder. And by the time you're 18 you're kind of baked. By the time you're 25 kind of baked. By the time you're 25 kind of baked. By the time you're 25 it's really game over. And you can it's really game over. And you can it's really game over. And you can adjust behaviors and things like that, adjust behaviors and things like that, adjust behaviors and things like that, but like the fundamental wiring of your but like the fundamental wiring of your but like the fundamental wiring of your brain is forever set. And the difference brain is forever set. And the difference brain is forever set. And the difference of people who uh you know go one way, of people who uh you know go one way, of people who uh you know go one way, let's say get addicted to um drugs and let's say get addicted to um drugs and let's say get addicted to um drugs and alcohol just to make something really alcohol just to make something really alcohol just to make something really easy. easy. easy. >> It's not like, oh, when they're 30 >> It's not like, oh, when they're 30 >> It's not like, oh, when they're 30 completely normal because they started completely normal because they started completely normal because they started working on themselves in their 20s. It working on themselves in their 20s. It working on themselves in their 20s. It doesn't work like that. They're going to doesn't work like that. They're going to doesn't work like that. They're going to have behavioral problems forever. have behavioral problems forever. have behavioral problems forever. >> There are studies that show that if a >> There are studies that show that if a >> There are studies that show that if a kid isn't socialized properly, meaning kid isn't socialized properly, meaning kid isn't socialized properly, meaning knowing how to cooperate, give and take, knowing how to cooperate, give and take, knowing how to cooperate, give and take, by the time they're four, they're going by the time they're four, they're going by the time they're four, they're going to be a behavioral problem forever. They to be a behavioral problem forever. They to be a behavioral problem forever. They never back out of that by three or four. never back out of that by three or four. never back out of that by three or four. So, that kind of stuff terrifies me. So, that kind of stuff terrifies me. So, that kind of stuff terrifies me. >> And I mean, shout out to any parent who >> And I mean, shout out to any parent who >> And I mean, shout out to any parent who grew up with I wouldn't have expected grew up with I wouldn't have expected grew up with I wouldn't have expected this. And so I would have if I had had this. And so I would have if I had had this. And so I would have if I had had kids I would have like given them an kids I would have like given them an kids I would have like given them an iPad because it makes them quiet. iPad because it makes them quiet. iPad because it makes them quiet. >> So and then I probably wouldn't have >> So and then I probably wouldn't have >> So and then I probably wouldn't have watched a lot of Coco Melon. So I watched a lot of Coco Melon. So I watched a lot of Coco Melon. So I wouldn't have realized that the way that wouldn't have realized that the way that wouldn't have realized that the way that it displays is like like just constantly it displays is like like just constantly it displays is like like just constantly trying to gauge engage re-engage trying to gauge engage re-engage trying to gauge engage re-engage re-engage re-engage. Um so that kids are re-engage re-engage. Um so that kids are re-engage re-engage. Um so that kids are never meant to like engage themselves. never meant to like engage themselves. never meant to like engage themselves. So when you think about um So when you think about um So when you think about um this is just my frame of reference. I'm this is just my frame of reference. I'm this is just my frame of reference. I'm going to bring it up all the time. When going to bring it up all the time. When going to bring it up all the time. When you think about why I think Minecraft is you think about why I think Minecraft is you think about why I think Minecraft is the greatest video game of all time, the greatest video game of all time, the greatest video game of all time, it's because it's entrepreneurial. It it's because it's entrepreneurial. It it's because it's entrepreneurial. It doesn't tell you what to do. You just doesn't tell you what to do. You just doesn't tell you what to do. You just get dropped in. get dropped in. get dropped in. You're in a rules-based world. Have fun You're in a rules-based world. Have fun You're in a rules-based world. Have fun and that's it. And the game steps back. and that's it. And the game steps back. and that's it. And the game steps back. And And And it will be hard for me to put into it will be hard for me to put into it will be hard for me to put into words, but the first time I played it, I words, but the first time I played it, I words, but the first time I played it, I almost rage quit. I wanted to throw my almost rage quit. I wanted to throw my almost rage quit. I wanted to throw my controller through the TV screen because controller through the TV screen because controller through the TV screen because I didn't understand what they wanted me I didn't understand what they wanted me I didn't understand what they wanted me to do. And I was so angry. And I was to do. And I was so angry. And I was to do. And I was so angry. And I was like, they expect a 14-year-old, a 12, like, they expect a 14-year-old, a 12, like, they expect a 14-year-old, a 12, 11 year old to be able to figure this 11 year old to be able to figure this 11 year old to be able to figure this out. As a 40 whatever year old, bro, out. As a 40 whatever year old, bro, out. As a 40 whatever year old, bro, I've got to be able to figure this out. I've got to be able to figure this out. I've got to be able to figure this out. And I was like, I'm never playing that And I was like, I'm never playing that And I was like, I'm never playing that again. And then the next day, I was again. And then the next day, I was again. And then the next day, I was like, I want to figure it out. Like like, I want to figure it out. Like like, I want to figure it out. Like there's so And so it stuck with me. And there's so And so it stuck with me. And there's so And so it stuck with me. And then once I got in, it was like, oh, I then once I got in, it was like, oh, I then once I got in, it was like, oh, I get to set my own goals and all this get to set my own goals and all this get to set my own goals and all this stuff. It was [ __ ] awesome. So kids stuff. It was [ __ ] awesome. So kids stuff. It was [ __ ] awesome. So kids need that. The brain needs that. And if need that. The brain needs that. And if need that. The brain needs that. And if you don't give the brain that, you're you don't give the brain that, you're you don't give the brain that, you're going to be in trouble. And so we're going to be in trouble. And so we're going to be in trouble. And so we're things like this have to happen. We've things like this have to happen. We've things like this have to happen. We've got to at a minimum because if we want got to at a minimum because if we want got to at a minimum because if we want to let Meta exist, fine. But at a to let Meta exist, fine. But at a to let Meta exist, fine. But at a minimum, we've got to bang the drum. minimum, we've got to bang the drum. minimum, we've got to bang the drum. Like no universe in which schools are Like no universe in which schools are Like no universe in which schools are allowed to let kids [ __ ] around on their allowed to let kids [ __ ] around on their allowed to let kids [ __ ] around on their phones. So just like at school, hard phones. So just like at school, hard phones. So just like at school, hard pass, no way. And if that means that pass, no way. And if that means that pass, no way. And if that means that kids have withdrawal symptoms, then they kids have withdrawal symptoms, then they kids have withdrawal symptoms, then they have withdrawal symptoms. Like you you have withdrawal symptoms. Like you you have withdrawal symptoms. Like you you have to address that. You can't just have to address that. You can't just have to address that. You can't just give in and let them be little give in and let them be little give in and let them be little psychopaths. like we've got to educate psychopaths. like we've got to educate psychopaths. like we've got to educate our nation. our nation. our nation. >> Um, okay. I'm I'm split. And there was >> Um, okay. I'm I'm split. And there was >> Um, okay. I'm I'm split. And there was somebody in the chat that mentioned it somebody in the chat that mentioned it somebody in the chat that mentioned it out, so I kind of want to like see what out, so I kind of want to like see what out, so I kind of want to like see what they say. Um, no one worth mentioning. they say. Um, no one worth mentioning. they say. Um, no one worth mentioning. Um, I'm not seeing their comment, but Um, I'm not seeing their comment, but Um, I'm not seeing their comment, but they basically said on one side, I do they basically said on one side, I do they basically said on one side, I do understand that this is doing harm. So, understand that this is doing harm. So, understand that this is doing harm. So, let's call it this is the cigarettes of let's call it this is the cigarettes of let's call it this is the cigarettes of our time. Should doctors be smoking in our time. Should doctors be smoking in our time. Should doctors be smoking in the exam room? Should we be smoking the exam room? Should we be smoking the exam room? Should we be smoking inside? All these other things. And then inside? All these other things. And then inside? All these other things. And then on the other side, it's the on the other side, it's the on the other side, it's the individual rights. the government individual rights. the government individual rights. the government shouldn't tell me what to do with my shouldn't tell me what to do with my shouldn't tell me what to do with my kid. It's my kid. I could do what they kid. It's my kid. I could do what they kid. It's my kid. I could do what they want. Right. want. Right. want. Right. >> Where do you see that line is >> Where do you see that line is >> Where do you see that line is specifically in this lifetime with specifically in this lifetime with specifically in this lifetime with social media? Is this something that the social media? Is this something that the social media? Is this something that the government should step in on? government should step in on? government should step in on? >> I think the government should leave it >> I think the government should leave it >> I think the government should leave it out of government things. The government out of government things. The government out of government things. The government shouldn't be funding it. The government shouldn't be funding it. The government shouldn't be funding it. The government shouldn't be allowing it in schools. shouldn't be allowing it in schools. shouldn't be allowing it in schools. Like all of that, like 100%. But you Like all of that, like 100%. But you Like all of that, like 100%. But you don't want the government in your house. don't want the government in your house. don't want the government in your house. Full stop. Period. End of story. Full stop. Period. End of story. Full stop. Period. End of story. >> Um barring like abuse. >> Um barring like abuse. >> Um barring like abuse. You don't want the government. They're You don't want the government. They're You don't want the government. They're too [ __ ] stupid. too [ __ ] stupid. too [ __ ] stupid. >> Like I I will reiterate for people >> Like I I will reiterate for people >> Like I I will reiterate for people >> for decades they told us sugar was fine >> for decades they told us sugar was fine >> for decades they told us sugar was fine that it was at the top of the food that it was at the top of the food that it was at the top of the food pyramid. Um you should eat the assend pyramid. Um you should eat the assend pyramid. Um you should eat the assend out of they they won't say sugary out of they they won't say sugary out of they they won't say sugary cereals but breads and all that stuff to cereals but breads and all that stuff to cereals but breads and all that stuff to your body it's just sugar. So they were your body it's just sugar. So they were your body it's just sugar. So they were like yeah this stuff is good for you. Oh like yeah this stuff is good for you. Oh like yeah this stuff is good for you. Oh and by the way you know what's bad for and by the way you know what's bad for and by the way you know what's bad for you? Fat. That is 100% the opposite of you? Fat. That is 100% the opposite of you? Fat. That is 100% the opposite of what is true. Mhm. what is true. Mhm. what is true. Mhm. >> And they didn't do it for a little >> And they didn't do it for a little >> And they didn't do it for a little while. They did it for decades. And they while. They did it for decades. And they while. They did it for decades. And they did it in the face of people getting did it in the face of people getting did it in the face of people getting sicker and sicker and sicker by the day. sicker and sicker and sicker by the day. sicker and sicker and sicker by the day. Chronic obesity, like crazy [ __ ] And Chronic obesity, like crazy [ __ ] And Chronic obesity, like crazy [ __ ] And they didn't adjust course. So there's no they didn't adjust course. So there's no they didn't adjust course. So there's no world in which I want them telling me world in which I want them telling me world in which I want them telling me what we can and can't do. Like they're what we can and can't do. Like they're what we can and can't do. Like they're already [ __ ] with AI. And that's already [ __ ] with AI. And that's already [ __ ] with AI. And that's where I'm like, "Yeah, no, that hard where I'm like, "Yeah, no, that hard where I'm like, "Yeah, no, that hard pass." pass." pass." >> So I am not for that. But at the same >> So I am not for that. But at the same >> So I am not for that. But at the same time, there are things where even if time, there are things where even if time, there are things where even if it's like just a question mark where it's like just a question mark where it's like just a question mark where they're like, "We're not going to engage they're like, "We're not going to engage they're like, "We're not going to engage with this." Perfect. Uh don't buy fast with this." Perfect. Uh don't buy fast with this." Perfect. Uh don't buy fast food and put it in the schools. Love it. food and put it in the schools. Love it. food and put it in the schools. Love it. >> Um don't uh don't let social media exist >> Um don't uh don't let social media exist >> Um don't uh don't let social media exist in school. Full stop. Don't let kids in school. Full stop. Don't let kids in school. Full stop. Don't let kids bring phones full stop. Let them bring a bring phones full stop. Let them bring a bring phones full stop. Let them bring a flip phone but not a smartphone. Great. flip phone but not a smartphone. Great. flip phone but not a smartphone. Great. All that stuff. Wonderful. That way if All that stuff. Wonderful. That way if All that stuff. Wonderful. That way if parents are like, "They've got to be parents are like, "They've got to be parents are like, "They've got to be able to reach me." Cool. But yeah, we're able to reach me." Cool. But yeah, we're able to reach me." Cool. But yeah, we're we're not going to let people engage we're not going to let people engage we're not going to let people engage with that. But then the government with that. But then the government with that. But then the government telling parents, you can't let your kid telling parents, you can't let your kid telling parents, you can't let your kid have a social media account. No way. have a social media account. No way. have a social media account. No way. Like imagine for a second that you have Like imagine for a second that you have Like imagine for a second that you have a kid and you're like, uh, your kid is a kid and you're like, uh, your kid is a kid and you're like, uh, your kid is is advanced. And so you're I want you to is advanced. And so you're I want you to is advanced. And so you're I want you to be able to go and engage with like I had be able to go and engage with like I had be able to go and engage with like I had a kid on the show who at like 13 or 14 a kid on the show who at like 13 or 14 a kid on the show who at like 13 or 14 built a nuclear reactor in his garage. built a nuclear reactor in his garage. built a nuclear reactor in his garage. >> Like to the point where he was >> Like to the point where he was >> Like to the point where he was collecting uranium himself, plutonium, collecting uranium himself, plutonium, collecting uranium himself, plutonium, one of the two. one of the two. one of the two. >> He would walk in the mountains because >> He would walk in the mountains because >> He would walk in the mountains because he knew where you could find it. he he knew where you could find it. he he knew where you could find it. he would take it back home. It's crazy. So, would take it back home. It's crazy. So, would take it back home. It's crazy. So, I don't want and that is what one of a I don't want and that is what one of a I don't want and that is what one of a million examples that you could make of million examples that you could make of million examples that you could make of like your average kid. You do not need like your average kid. You do not need like your average kid. You do not need this just for super geniuses, but like this just for super geniuses, but like this just for super geniuses, but like you want people like that to be able to you want people like that to be able to you want people like that to be able to engage with the community of other engage with the community of other engage with the community of other thinkers and be able to tap into all thinkers and be able to tap into all thinkers and be able to tap into all that stuff and social media is one of that stuff and social media is one of that stuff and social media is one of the easiest ways to do it. the easiest ways to do it. the easiest ways to do it. >> Um, some people are definitely pushing >> Um, some people are definitely pushing >> Um, some people are definitely pushing back saying like we don't allow our kid back saying like we don't allow our kid back saying like we don't allow our kid to drink, we don't allow them to smoke. to drink, we don't allow them to smoke. to drink, we don't allow them to smoke. Social media is that thing. Um, should Social media is that thing. Um, should Social media is that thing. Um, should there at least be guardrails? For there at least be guardrails? For there at least be guardrails? For example, Australia, you can't do I think example, Australia, you can't do I think example, Australia, you can't do I think YouTube was on that list, but let's take YouTube was on that list, but let's take YouTube was on that list, but let's take YouTube off for a second, but you can't YouTube off for a second, but you can't YouTube off for a second, but you can't do Snapchat, you can't do Facebook, you do Snapchat, you can't do Facebook, you do Snapchat, you can't do Facebook, you can't can't do Instagram, but YouTube is can't can't do Instagram, but YouTube is can't can't do Instagram, but YouTube is okay or something like that. Like, is okay or something like that. Like, is okay or something like that. Like, is there a way we can kind of there a way we can kind of there a way we can kind of >> I don't trust the government at all to >> I don't trust the government at all to >> I don't trust the government at all to do that. I think parents should do it. do that. I think parents should do it. do that. I think parents should do it. This comes down to a base assumption. Do This comes down to a base assumption. Do This comes down to a base assumption. Do governments run your kids or do you own governments run your kids or do you own governments run your kids or do you own is maybe a more accurate word. Does the is maybe a more accurate word. Does the is maybe a more accurate word. Does the government own your kids or do you own government own your kids or do you own government own your kids or do you own your kids? your kids? your kids? >> I believe you decentralize that. And >> I believe you decentralize that. And >> I believe you decentralize that. And there's no doubt that they're going to there's no doubt that they're going to there's no doubt that they're going to be bad parents and kids will suffer be bad parents and kids will suffer be bad parents and kids will suffer because of that. But I trust the parents because of that. But I trust the parents because of that. But I trust the parents infinitely more to know what's right for infinitely more to know what's right for infinitely more to know what's right for their kids than I trust the government. their kids than I trust the government. their kids than I trust the government. That's one of those base assumptions. If That's one of those base assumptions. If That's one of those base assumptions. If you think the government is an agent of you think the government is an agent of you think the government is an agent of good, then you're going to think I'm good, then you're going to think I'm good, then you're going to think I'm crazy. crazy. crazy. >> If you think the government is an agent >> If you think the government is an agent >> If you think the government is an agent of good, I think you're out of your of good, I think you're out of your of good, I think you're out of your [ __ ] mind. And for you to look at [ __ ] mind. And for you to look at [ __ ] mind. And for you to look at what's going on with all the things that what's going on with all the things that what's going on with all the things that they've gotten wrong, including the they've gotten wrong, including the they've gotten wrong, including the Epstein files, and you still think they Epstein files, and you still think they Epstein files, and you still think they have your best interest heart, [ __ ] you. have your best interest heart, [ __ ] you. have your best interest heart, [ __ ] you. That's so [ __ ] That's full [ __ ] That's so [ __ ] That's full [ __ ] That's so [ __ ] That's full [ __ ] That is short bus. That is you need That is short bus. That is you need That is short bus. That is you need medication. No way. So yeah, I don't medication. No way. So yeah, I don't medication. No way. So yeah, I don't trust them. I'm not saying all parents trust them. I'm not saying all parents trust them. I'm not saying all parents are good. They're not. There's going to are good. They're not. There's going to are good. They're not. There's going to be horrific parents. But boy oh boy, do be horrific parents. But boy oh boy, do be horrific parents. But boy oh boy, do I from a law of averages. I trust the I from a law of averages. I trust the I from a law of averages. I trust the parents to understand their children. parents to understand their children. parents to understand their children. And how many times do I have to hear And how many times do I have to hear And how many times do I have to hear from parents with multiple kids, what from parents with multiple kids, what from parents with multiple kids, what works with one kid doesn't work with the works with one kid doesn't work with the works with one kid doesn't work with the other. And so the government's going to other. And so the government's going to other. And so the government's going to do blanket [ __ ] policies. It's like do blanket [ __ ] policies. It's like do blanket [ __ ] policies. It's like at the parent level, they should be at the parent level, they should be at the parent level, they should be deciding yes or no for their kids. Like deciding yes or no for their kids. Like deciding yes or no for their kids. Like there are some households, hey, say what there are some households, hey, say what there are some households, hey, say what you will. There are some households like you will. There are some households like you will. There are some households like I was allowed to have a sip of my dad's I was allowed to have a sip of my dad's I was allowed to have a sip of my dad's beer. That was it. Should my dad be in beer. That was it. Should my dad be in beer. That was it. Should my dad be in trouble for that, trouble for that, trouble for that, right? I didn't grow up to drink. I right? I didn't grow up to drink. I right? I didn't grow up to drink. I didn't have my first like proper drink didn't have my first like proper drink didn't have my first like proper drink till I was 26 because it was um I saw till I was 26 because it was um I saw till I was 26 because it was um I saw what alcoholics look like. It did not what alcoholics look like. It did not what alcoholics look like. It did not look fun. And then my parents let me look fun. And then my parents let me look fun. And then my parents let me taste it. Tasted like ass. So it was taste it. Tasted like ass. So it was taste it. Tasted like ass. So it was like me. It just wasn't like some big like me. It just wasn't like some big like me. It just wasn't like some big thing. Um same with my wife. Grew up in thing. Um same with my wife. Grew up in thing. Um same with my wife. Grew up in a culture where drinking by the age of a culture where drinking by the age of a culture where drinking by the age of 18 was fine. And so by the time they're 18 was fine. And so by the time they're 18 was fine. And so by the time they're 16, they're drinking. Wife's doing okay. 16, they're drinking. Wife's doing okay. 16, they're drinking. Wife's doing okay. So, um, yeah, I don't want the So, um, yeah, I don't want the So, um, yeah, I don't want the government I want to limit the government I want to limit the government I want to limit the government's involvement as much as is government's involvement as much as is government's involvement as much as is wise. wise. wise. >> Now, are we going to agree on where it's >> Now, are we going to agree on where it's >> Now, are we going to agree on where it's wise? No. But, oo, buddy, I do not trust wise? No. But, oo, buddy, I do not trust wise? No. But, oo, buddy, I do not trust them. them. them. >> No, that makes sense. And it's actually >> No, that makes sense. And it's actually >> No, that makes sense. And it's actually interesting, too, cuz I lucked out um interesting, too, cuz I lucked out um interesting, too, cuz I lucked out um growing up raising Lynn because when she growing up raising Lynn because when she growing up raising Lynn because when she was two, she had an iPad, and this was was two, she had an iPad, and this was was two, she had an iPad, and this was back in 2012 when iPads were still like back in 2012 when iPads were still like back in 2012 when iPads were still like 400 bucks. And she was playing Tom the 400 bucks. And she was playing Tom the 400 bucks. And she was playing Tom the cat. That's a cat that used to pull his cat. That's a cat that used to pull his cat. That's a cat that used to pull his belly, used to make the noise and all belly, used to make the noise and all belly, used to make the noise and all that. And she like rage quit and like that. And she like rage quit and like that. And she like rage quit and like tossed the iPad and it like dropped. I tossed the iPad and it like dropped. I tossed the iPad and it like dropped. I didn't have a case or nothing on it. It didn't have a case or nothing on it. It didn't have a case or nothing on it. It dropped and shattered and me like dropped and shattered and me like dropped and shattered and me like getting triggered from my parents like, getting triggered from my parents like, getting triggered from my parents like, "Oh, you broke it. I'm not buying you "Oh, you broke it. I'm not buying you "Oh, you broke it. I'm not buying you another one. You're going to learn your another one. You're going to learn your another one. You're going to learn your lesson." I never bought her iPad again. lesson." I never bought her iPad again. lesson." I never bought her iPad again. So, she never got back on an iPad. So, she never got back on an iPad. So, she never got back on an iPad. >> Thank God. >> Thank God. >> Thank God. >> And the whole That's what I'm saying. I >> And the whole That's what I'm saying. I >> And the whole That's what I'm saying. I was like, "God works in mysterious was like, "God works in mysterious was like, "God works in mysterious ways." Cuz this whole time now I'm ways." Cuz this whole time now I'm ways." Cuz this whole time now I'm seeing like iPad kids and addiction and seeing like iPad kids and addiction and seeing like iPad kids and addiction and all that. all that. all that. >> Haitian culture one, [laughter] >> Haitian culture one, [laughter] >> Haitian culture one, [laughter] >> iPad sinister zero. >> iPad sinister zero. >> iPad sinister zero. >> Definitely would have been iPad baby. >> Definitely would have been iPad baby. >> Definitely would have been iPad baby. But because she broke, I was like, But because she broke, I was like, But because she broke, I was like, "You're never getting an iPad again." "You're never getting an iPad again." "You're never getting an iPad again." And she was two. So she was like, okay, And she was two. So she was like, okay, And she was two. So she was like, okay, she was mad for that afternoon and then she was mad for that afternoon and then she was mad for that afternoon and then I was like, all right, read me a book. I was like, all right, read me a book. I was like, all right, read me a book. Or I remember there was one day where we Or I remember there was one day where we Or I remember there was one day where we she was just climbing up and down the she was just climbing up and down the she was just climbing up and down the stairs for like 3 hours and it was like, stairs for like 3 hours and it was like, stairs for like 3 hours and it was like, >> all right, you're entertaining yourself >> all right, you're entertaining yourself >> all right, you're entertaining yourself and it didn't cost me money and cool. and it didn't cost me money and cool. and it didn't cost me money and cool. And that's just what it is. So, it's And that's just what it is. So, it's And that's just what it is. So, it's interesting how sometimes interesting how sometimes interesting how sometimes specifically I can understand how specifically I can understand how specifically I can understand how directionally you want to intervene cuz directionally you want to intervene cuz directionally you want to intervene cuz social media is there's a a bunch of social media is there's a a bunch of social media is there's a a bunch of suicides. There's unrealistic beauty suicides. There's unrealistic beauty suicides. There's unrealistic beauty standards and especially having a standards and especially having a standards and especially having a daughter, she's a little bit more daughter, she's a little bit more daughter, she's a little bit more sensitive to I need to have makeup and I sensitive to I need to have makeup and I sensitive to I need to have makeup and I need to get this beauty product and need to get this beauty product and need to get this beauty product and there's certain things that as a young there's certain things that as a young there's certain things that as a young man I didn't have to go through. But I man I didn't have to go through. But I man I didn't have to go through. But I do agree like it's just a slippery slope do agree like it's just a slippery slope do agree like it's just a slippery slope of saying your kids can't do this, your of saying your kids can't do this, your of saying your kids can't do this, your kids can't do this. What else are they kids can't do this. What else are they kids can't do this. What else are they going to tell my kids they can and can't going to tell my kids they can and can't going to tell my kids they can and can't do? So now I love parents telling their do? So now I love parents telling their do? So now I love parents telling their kids, "You can't do that. You can't have kids, "You can't do that. You can't have kids, "You can't do that. You can't have an iPad. You can't have a Nope. Be as an iPad. You can't have a Nope. Be as an iPad. You can't have a Nope. Be as draconian as you want to be." And some draconian as you want to be." And some draconian as you want to be." And some parents will run the experiment of like parents will run the experiment of like parents will run the experiment of like absolutely no sugar. Never get to touch absolutely no sugar. Never get to touch absolutely no sugar. Never get to touch an iPad. All that stuff. And those kids an iPad. All that stuff. And those kids an iPad. All that stuff. And those kids will go on to be like the most sugar will go on to be like the most sugar will go on to be like the most sugar eating, the most iPad using eating, the most iPad using eating, the most iPad using 20-year-olds. It is what it is. But 20-year-olds. It is what it is. But 20-year-olds. It is what it is. But yeah, I at the level of government yeah, I at the level of government yeah, I at the level of government policy, it has proven over time to be policy, it has proven over time to be policy, it has proven over time to be terrible. The worst person to solve your terrible. The worst person to solve your terrible. The worst person to solve your problems is the government. problems is the government. problems is the government. >> Yeah, it's it's wild. Um, there was that >> Yeah, it's it's wild. Um, there was that >> Yeah, it's it's wild. Um, there was that study though, I didn't pull it up, that study though, I didn't pull it up, that study though, I didn't pull it up, that generation Z is a first generation that generation Z is a first generation that generation Z is a first generation that technically is like dumber putting air technically is like dumber putting air technically is like dumber putting air quotes than the millennials. quotes than the millennials. quotes than the millennials. >> They're blaming social media. They're >> They're blaming social media. They're >> They're blaming social media. They're blaming iPads. They're blaming, you blaming iPads. They're blaming, you blaming iPads. They're blaming, you know, AI and all these things. know, AI and all these things. know, AI and all these things. >> Are we going to see in like 20 years? >> Are we going to see in like 20 years? >> Are we going to see in like 20 years? I'm like, okay, holy crap, you can't I'm like, okay, holy crap, you can't I'm like, okay, holy crap, you can't touch a screen until you're 10. Like, is touch a screen until you're 10. Like, is touch a screen until you're 10. Like, is there going to there has to be some there going to there has to be some there going to there has to be some >> now? Yeah. >> now? Yeah. >> now? Yeah. >> Now. So, we tried to find a way. Um, >> Now. So, we tried to find a way. Um, >> Now. So, we tried to find a way. Um, shout out to Jonathan Height, shout out to Jonathan Height, shout out to Jonathan Height, >> who just doesn't fit the channel >> who just doesn't fit the channel >> who just doesn't fit the channel anymore, but love his work. Love that anymore, but love his work. Love that anymore, but love his work. Love that he's banging this drum. he's banging this drum. he's banging this drum. >> And uh, yeah, I think that more and more >> And uh, yeah, I think that more and more >> And uh, yeah, I think that more and more schools are going to outlaw it. I think schools are going to outlaw it. I think schools are going to outlaw it. I think that more and more parents are going to that more and more parents are going to that more and more parents are going to put the kibos on it. put the kibos on it. put the kibos on it. >> And this goes back to at the individual >> And this goes back to at the individual >> And this goes back to at the individual level, you guys don't have to worry. You level, you guys don't have to worry. You level, you guys don't have to worry. You can educate your kids. You can make sure can educate your kids. You can make sure can educate your kids. You can make sure that your genzer is as sharp as any that your genzer is as sharp as any that your genzer is as sharp as any generation has ever been. At the generation has ever been. At the generation has ever been. At the individual level, this is an easy individual level, this is an easy individual level, this is an easy problem to solve. problem to solve. problem to solve. As you zoom back out, it becomes more As you zoom back out, it becomes more As you zoom back out, it becomes more and more scary. But I people always and more scary. But I people always and more scary. But I people always react. The pendulum always swings. And react. The pendulum always swings. And react. The pendulum always swings. And if people see this is a problem, also if people see this is a problem, also if people see this is a problem, also remember anything that offers an remember anything that offers an remember anything that offers an advantage will be pursued. So, and advantage will be pursued. So, and advantage will be pursued. So, and that's game theory. So, any parent who that's game theory. So, any parent who that's game theory. So, any parent who realizes, oh, my kid can be guaranteed realizes, oh, my kid can be guaranteed realizes, oh, my kid can be guaranteed life success if I adopt a more Chinese life success if I adopt a more Chinese life success if I adopt a more Chinese model. I get them studying all the time. model. I get them studying all the time. model. I get them studying all the time. I don't let them play too many video I don't let them play too many video I don't let them play too many video games. I don't let them engage with games. I don't let them engage with games. I don't let them engage with their iPad too much. Yep, cool. I'm on. their iPad too much. Yep, cool. I'm on. their iPad too much. Yep, cool. I'm on. And so, you're going to get American And so, you're going to get American And so, you're going to get American parents that are going to do that same parents that are going to do that same parents that are going to do that same exact thing. So, China wasn't like this exact thing. So, China wasn't like this exact thing. So, China wasn't like this for a hundred years. They were getting for a hundred years. They were getting for a hundred years. They were getting their ass handed to them because their ass handed to them because their ass handed to them because culturally they weren't sharp. They culturally they weren't sharp. They culturally they weren't sharp. They weren't like thinking in the right ways. weren't like thinking in the right ways. weren't like thinking in the right ways. And so, then they're like, "All right, And so, then they're like, "All right, And so, then they're like, "All right, cool. We're going to run a new cool. We're going to run a new cool. We're going to run a new playbook." Dingo turns everything around playbook." Dingo turns everything around playbook." Dingo turns everything around in the 70s and boom, you've got the in the 70s and boom, you've got the in the 70s and boom, you've got the modern era China. modern era China. modern era China. >> So, uh, yep. expect it'll start in >> So, uh, yep. expect it'll start in >> So, uh, yep. expect it'll start in pockets and then over time it will pockets and then over time it will pockets and then over time it will spread to culture broadly speaking. spread to culture broadly speaking. spread to culture broadly speaking. >> Yeah. Um yeah, this is opening >> Yeah. Um yeah, this is opening >> Yeah. Um yeah, this is opening arguments. We'll see. But this is arguments. We'll see. But this is arguments. We'll see. But this is definitely one of those legislation definitely one of those legislation definitely one of those legislation legislative defining court cases because legislative defining court cases because legislative defining court cases because it's happening both in California and it's happening both in California and it's happening both in California and New Mexico. Um so depending on how that New Mexico. Um so depending on how that New Mexico. Um so depending on how that turn what ramifications that will happen turn what ramifications that will happen turn what ramifications that will happen with Meta, they're not just going to do with Meta, they're not just going to do with Meta, they're not just going to do in that one state. It's going to end up in that one state. It's going to end up in that one state. It's going to end up being a blanket policy. So we'll see being a blanket policy. So we'll see being a blanket policy. So we'll see what their second and third order what their second and third order what their second and third order consequences are. Um because you brought consequences are. Um because you brought consequences are. Um because you brought up China, let's go across the seas for a up China, let's go across the seas for a up China, let's go across the seas for a second. Um there's two stories that are second. Um there's two stories that are second. Um there's two stories that are kind of interesting cuz on one side, kind of interesting cuz on one side, kind of interesting cuz on one side, China is limiting its exposure to US China is limiting its exposure to US China is limiting its exposure to US debt. Um there's been some reports about debt. Um there's been some reports about debt. Um there's been some reports about that. I we've heard so many conflicting that. I we've heard so many conflicting that. I we've heard so many conflicting like reports about China. I don't even like reports about China. I don't even like reports about China. I don't even know what to believe anymore now. So know what to believe anymore now. So know what to believe anymore now. So kind of frame what does this actually kind of frame what does this actually kind of frame what does this actually mean? How can this affect the US markets mean? How can this affect the US markets mean? How can this affect the US markets and what do you think the implications and what do you think the implications and what do you think the implications will be? So the way that I am thinking will be? So the way that I am thinking will be? So the way that I am thinking through this is you've got two countries through this is you've got two countries through this is you've got two countries that are both in trouble to varying that are both in trouble to varying that are both in trouble to varying degrees and in different ways. You've degrees and in different ways. You've degrees and in different ways. You've got China that has a massive demography got China that has a massive demography got China that has a massive demography problem. So they had the one child problem. So they had the one child problem. So they had the one child policy for so long that their population policy for so long that their population policy for so long that their population is dramatically declining. Uh you also is dramatically declining. Uh you also is dramatically declining. Uh you also have an incentive structure in China have an incentive structure in China have an incentive structure in China where they're going to lie and a lot of where they're going to lie and a lot of where they're going to lie and a lot of their dollars come from um basically their dollars come from um basically their dollars come from um basically self-reporting things. And so the number self-reporting things. And so the number self-reporting things. And so the number of injections that you give to kids, for of injections that you give to kids, for of injections that you give to kids, for instance, is how a doctor gets paid. So instance, is how a doctor gets paid. So instance, is how a doctor gets paid. So you're going to inflate the numbers of you're going to inflate the numbers of you're going to inflate the numbers of the injections that you give to people. the injections that you give to people. the injections that you give to people. So because of the incentive structure, So because of the incentive structure, So because of the incentive structure, they don't have like good reporting. And they don't have like good reporting. And they don't have like good reporting. And Xi is now purging everybody. So all he's Xi is now purging everybody. So all he's Xi is now purging everybody. So all he's getting is propaganda on propaganda on getting is propaganda on propaganda on getting is propaganda on propaganda on propaganda. However, they are the propaganda. However, they are the propaganda. However, they are the world's manufacturing hub. Full stop. world's manufacturing hub. Full stop. world's manufacturing hub. Full stop. End of story. Nobody disputes that. And End of story. Nobody disputes that. And End of story. Nobody disputes that. And while it does look like they've dropped while it does look like they've dropped while it does look like they've dropped back down in terms of total exports uh back down in terms of total exports uh back down in terms of total exports uh because of all the trade battle between because of all the trade battle between because of all the trade battle between the US and China, um they're still the the US and China, um they're still the the US and China, um they're still the place that you go for manufacturing. So place that you go for manufacturing. So place that you go for manufacturing. So they've got a huge leg up and they are a they've got a huge leg up and they are a they've got a huge leg up and they are a gigantic economy regardless of whether gigantic economy regardless of whether gigantic economy regardless of whether their um numbers are being inflated. their um numbers are being inflated. their um numbers are being inflated. Some people are saying somewhere in fact Some people are saying somewhere in fact Some people are saying somewhere in fact China is openly discussing are our China is openly discussing are our China is openly discussing are our population uh numbers inflated by 100 population uh numbers inflated by 100 population uh numbers inflated by 100 million or 300 million. So they're million or 300 million. So they're million or 300 million. So they're saying it's a range somewhere in there. saying it's a range somewhere in there. saying it's a range somewhere in there. So it's this massive range they've got So it's this massive range they've got So it's this massive range they've got the demography thing looming but the demography thing looming but the demography thing looming but economically economically economically uh because they are the world's uh because they are the world's uh because they are the world's manufacturing hub uh they've got ongoing manufacturing hub uh they've got ongoing manufacturing hub uh they've got ongoing revenue that they can count on. The US revenue that they can count on. The US revenue that they can count on. The US on the other hand has an economy that's on the other hand has an economy that's on the other hand has an economy that's essentially 70% predicated on debt. So essentially 70% predicated on debt. So essentially 70% predicated on debt. So our GDP is 70% our GDP is 70% our GDP is 70% spending money. It's wild. How are we spending money. It's wild. How are we spending money. It's wild. How are we able to spend money? Because we are the able to spend money? Because we are the able to spend money? Because we are the world's reserve currency. So we can world's reserve currency. So we can world's reserve currency. So we can export a lot of our inflation. So that export a lot of our inflation. So that export a lot of our inflation. So that allows us to run these deficits, which allows us to run these deficits, which allows us to run these deficits, which is crazy. Uh and we basically have some is crazy. Uh and we basically have some is crazy. Uh and we basically have some absurd percentage of the American absurd percentage of the American absurd percentage of the American populace on the dole. It's wild. I populace on the dole. It's wild. I populace on the dole. It's wild. I forget the exact number, but it's forget the exact number, but it's forget the exact number, but it's massive. And so China knows that we're massive. And so China knows that we're massive. And so China knows that we're in a debt trap. And so if China wants to in a debt trap. And so if China wants to in a debt trap. And so if China wants to win, then they've got to focus on the win, then they've got to focus on the win, then they've got to focus on the areas where they're strong, areas where they're strong, areas where they're strong, manufacturing, uh lessen their reliance manufacturing, uh lessen their reliance manufacturing, uh lessen their reliance on US debt, begin to back away. And on US debt, begin to back away. And on US debt, begin to back away. And while everyone will tell you that the while everyone will tell you that the while everyone will tell you that the digital or the yuan is never going to be digital or the yuan is never going to be digital or the yuan is never going to be the world's reserve currency, gold the world's reserve currency, gold the world's reserve currency, gold already is held by more central banks already is held by more central banks already is held by more central banks than US dollars. That's a change. That than US dollars. That's a change. That than US dollars. That's a change. That is a radical change that is happening is a radical change that is happening is a radical change that is happening before our eyes. And if China can pull before our eyes. And if China can pull before our eyes. And if China can pull off actually backing the yuan with gold off actually backing the yuan with gold off actually backing the yuan with gold in a way where they're working with some in a way where they're working with some in a way where they're working with some other country that holds the physical other country that holds the physical other country that holds the physical gold, a country that's large enough and gold, a country that's large enough and gold, a country that's large enough and that's trusted enough, then they really that's trusted enough, then they really that's trusted enough, then they really could back the digital yuan knowing that could back the digital yuan knowing that could back the digital yuan knowing that it's redeemable for gold and that again it's redeemable for gold and that again it's redeemable for gold and that again as long as China doesn't control it and as long as China doesn't control it and as long as China doesn't control it and people have faith in that like you could people have faith in that like you could people have faith in that like you could see that really happen and China is see that really happen and China is see that really happen and China is making strides in that direction. Now making strides in that direction. Now making strides in that direction. Now people are going to tell you that this people are going to tell you that this people are going to tell you that this is impossible. They're going to tell you is impossible. They're going to tell you is impossible. They're going to tell you like Peter Zion, I loved my time with like Peter Zion, I loved my time with like Peter Zion, I loved my time with Peter Zion. There are few people that Peter Zion. There are few people that Peter Zion. There are few people that will directly refute uh my beliefs with will directly refute uh my beliefs with will directly refute uh my beliefs with the succinctness with the data than the succinctness with the data than the succinctness with the data than Peter. He's very gracious. He's very Peter. He's very gracious. He's very Peter. He's very gracious. He's very intelligent. He's very well educated. It intelligent. He's very well educated. It intelligent. He's very well educated. It was absolutely wonderful. But it was absolutely wonderful. But it was absolutely wonderful. But it basically comes down to what are the basically comes down to what are the basically comes down to what are the base assumptions that you believe? One base assumptions that you believe? One base assumptions that you believe? One of my base assumptions is that China got of my base assumptions is that China got of my base assumptions is that China got to where they are for very good reasons. to where they are for very good reasons. to where they are for very good reasons. It is a country full of extraordinarily It is a country full of extraordinarily It is a country full of extraordinarily intelligent people. That they are a intelligent people. That they are a intelligent people. That they are a gigantic nation. Even if they're only a gigantic nation. Even if they're only a gigantic nation. Even if they're only a billion people and not the 1.4 that billion people and not the 1.4 that billion people and not the 1.4 that we've been told, that's still massive. we've been told, that's still massive. we've been told, that's still massive. Massive. And when you get a country as Massive. And when you get a country as Massive. And when you get a country as focused as they are on education and focused as they are on education and focused as they are on education and winning, homie, you turn a blind eye to winning, homie, you turn a blind eye to winning, homie, you turn a blind eye to that at your peril. They are on the that at your peril. They are on the that at your peril. They are on the comeup. and Xi can be ousted if the comeup. and Xi can be ousted if the comeup. and Xi can be ousted if the country is going in a bad direction. So, country is going in a bad direction. So, country is going in a bad direction. So, this is one of those where as we extend this is one of those where as we extend this is one of those where as we extend life, yes. Are they having a demographic life, yes. Are they having a demographic life, yes. Are they having a demographic problem that is spilling over? Yes. Is problem that is spilling over? Yes. Is problem that is spilling over? Yes. Is robotics proving to be advantageous in robotics proving to be advantageous in robotics proving to be advantageous in Japan? Yes. Do I see any reason why Japan? Yes. Do I see any reason why Japan? Yes. Do I see any reason why China that outmanufactures everybody China that outmanufactures everybody China that outmanufactures everybody couldn't spin up their own robotics couldn't spin up their own robotics couldn't spin up their own robotics factory? No, I do not. Who is the second factory? No, I do not. Who is the second factory? No, I do not. Who is the second biggest player in AI? China. So, who's biggest player in AI? China. So, who's biggest player in AI? China. So, who's spinning up more energy than anybody on spinning up more energy than anybody on spinning up more energy than anybody on the planet? China. So, uh, whenever the planet? China. So, uh, whenever the planet? China. So, uh, whenever somebody's like, "Matt, China's like somebody's like, "Matt, China's like somebody's like, "Matt, China's like over and done with." We just don't share over and done with." We just don't share over and done with." We just don't share a base assumption. Okay? It's not that I a base assumption. Okay? It's not that I a base assumption. Okay? It's not that I don't understand the argumentation. It's don't understand the argumentation. It's don't understand the argumentation. It's not even that I don't understand the not even that I don't understand the not even that I don't understand the data that they're looking at. It's just data that they're looking at. It's just data that they're looking at. It's just it all rides on the back of what base it all rides on the back of what base it all rides on the back of what base assumptions do you believe? And I have a assumptions do you believe? And I have a assumptions do you believe? And I have a huge base assumption around AI, huge base assumption around AI, huge base assumption around AI, robotics, that some of these advanced robotics, that some of these advanced robotics, that some of these advanced nations are going to be able to deal nations are going to be able to deal nations are going to be able to deal with their productivity problem, which with their productivity problem, which with their productivity problem, which is what it is, using AI and robotics. We is what it is, using AI and robotics. We is what it is, using AI and robotics. We all I don't hear anybody disagreeing all I don't hear anybody disagreeing all I don't hear anybody disagreeing with that in Japan, but I hear somehow with that in Japan, but I hear somehow with that in Japan, but I hear somehow people disagreeing with that in China people disagreeing with that in China people disagreeing with that in China where they've proven that they adapt where they've proven that they adapt where they've proven that they adapt very quickly. Even if by stealing the very quickly. Even if by stealing the very quickly. Even if by stealing the tech, they still adapt very quickly. So, tech, they still adapt very quickly. So, tech, they still adapt very quickly. So, I don't write those guys off. I think I don't write those guys off. I think I don't write those guys off. I think it's very serious. Now, one thing Peter it's very serious. Now, one thing Peter it's very serious. Now, one thing Peter has convinced me of is that they're not has convinced me of is that they're not has convinced me of is that they're not as um militarily flexible as I thought. as um militarily flexible as I thought. as um militarily flexible as I thought. I thought they had broader reach. That's I thought they had broader reach. That's I thought they had broader reach. That's something that he's made me reconsider. something that he's made me reconsider. something that he's made me reconsider. So the spheres of influence thing takes So the spheres of influence thing takes So the spheres of influence thing takes on greater importance, but it does say on greater importance, but it does say on greater importance, but it does say that US is going to have a hard choice that US is going to have a hard choice that US is going to have a hard choice as to whether we want to go sweat them as to whether we want to go sweat them as to whether we want to go sweat them in their own backyard where they can in their own backyard where they can in their own backyard where they can [ __ ] with us militarily or whether we [ __ ] with us militarily or whether we [ __ ] with us militarily or whether we want to say um you know what, we're just want to say um you know what, we're just want to say um you know what, we're just going to say here, you guys take Asia. going to say here, you guys take Asia. going to say here, you guys take Asia. That that is a big that would be an That that is a big that would be an That that is a big that would be an earthquake felt around the world if the earthquake felt around the world if the earthquake felt around the world if the US just writes them off. So that means US just writes them off. So that means US just writes them off. So that means that there is a chance that we actually that there is a chance that we actually that there is a chance that we actually do force a military conflict in their do force a military conflict in their do force a military conflict in their backyard. So, I don't think we're out of backyard. So, I don't think we're out of backyard. So, I don't think we're out of the woods with Ducidity's trap. Watch the woods with Ducidity's trap. Watch the woods with Ducidity's trap. Watch the episode with Peter coming up. That's the episode with Peter coming up. That's the episode with Peter coming up. That's his pitch is that no, no, no. You don't his pitch is that no, no, no. You don't his pitch is that no, no, no. You don't understand. These guys can't go far understand. These guys can't go far understand. These guys can't go far enough. We'll see. enough. We'll see. enough. We'll see. >> This trap's on Thursday. That's going to >> This trap's on Thursday. That's going to >> This trap's on Thursday. That's going to be that's going to be a banger. That's be that's going to be a banger. That's be that's going to be a banger. That's going to be a good one. going to be a good one. going to be a good one. >> Yeah, that was awesome. We both were >> Yeah, that was awesome. We both were >> Yeah, that was awesome. We both were when we finished that were like, "Oh, when we finished that were like, "Oh, when we finished that were like, "Oh, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> That that was good." >> That that was good." >> That that was good." >> Um, and then in Asian news continuing, >> Um, and then in Asian news continuing, >> Um, and then in Asian news continuing, um, new right-wing PM um, PM Taka Taki, um, new right-wing PM um, PM Taka Taki, um, new right-wing PM um, PM Taka Taki, >> I think it's said exactly like that. >> I think it's said exactly like that. >> I think it's said exactly like that. Well said. um just won a landslide in Well said. um just won a landslide in Well said. um just won a landslide in their parliamentarily our their parliamentarily our their parliamentarily our parliamentarily election parliamentarily election parliamentarily election uh words. She's anti- illegal immigrant, uh words. She's anti- illegal immigrant, uh words. She's anti- illegal immigrant, wants to maintain Japanese coral culture wants to maintain Japanese coral culture wants to maintain Japanese coral culture and is a China hawk. Japan has gave her and is a China hawk. Japan has gave her and is a China hawk. Japan has gave her a sweeping mandate. a sweeping mandate. a sweeping mandate. >> Dude, look at if you guys aren't looking >> Dude, look at if you guys aren't looking >> Dude, look at if you guys aren't looking at your phones, look at your phones. Uh at your phones, look at your phones. Uh at your phones, look at your phones. Uh all the green is her party. It's a all the green is her party. It's a all the green is her party. It's a graph, like a a visual graph of how many graph, like a a visual graph of how many graph, like a a visual graph of how many of the seats they've gobbled up gobbled of the seats they've gobbled up gobbled of the seats they've gobbled up gobbled up. 75%. That is wild. This ushers a up. 75%. That is wild. This ushers a up. 75%. That is wild. This ushers a massive tax cut that she's been wanting massive tax cut that she's been wanting massive tax cut that she's been wanting to push through and this vote is the way to push through and this vote is the way to push through and this vote is the way to solidify that. to solidify that. to solidify that. >> This for anybody that wants to compare >> This for anybody that wants to compare >> This for anybody that wants to compare this to the US, this is as if the US had this to the US, this is as if the US had this to the US, this is as if the US had a supermajority either Republican or a supermajority either Republican or a supermajority either Republican or Democrat. Well, I mean it's like having Democrat. Well, I mean it's like having Democrat. Well, I mean it's like having a Republican supermajority. So there is a Republican supermajority. So there is a Republican supermajority. So there is nothing filibuster or otherwise there is nothing filibuster or otherwise there is nothing filibuster or otherwise there is nothing the other side can stop you from nothing the other side can stop you from nothing the other side can stop you from running through. That's wild. So expect running through. That's wild. So expect running through. That's wild. So expect rapid change in Japan. Uh, so this is rapid change in Japan. Uh, so this is rapid change in Japan. Uh, so this is going to be very interesting to see my going to be very interesting to see my going to be very interesting to see my So when I was a kid, So when I was a kid, So when I was a kid, >> Japan was like, look at Die Hard. Who's >> Japan was like, look at Die Hard. Who's >> Japan was like, look at Die Hard. Who's the boss? the boss? the boss? >> Japan. >> Japan. >> Japan. >> Correct. Look at um Back to the Future, >> Correct. Look at um Back to the Future, >> Correct. Look at um Back to the Future, Japan. It's just like in the 80s, it was Japan. It's just like in the 80s, it was Japan. It's just like in the 80s, it was like, oh, Japan's about to take it all. like, oh, Japan's about to take it all. like, oh, Japan's about to take it all. Like they were the future. Like they were the future. Like they were the future. >> The whole concept of Neotokyo and all >> The whole concept of Neotokyo and all >> The whole concept of Neotokyo and all that that they were just so much more that that they were just so much more that that they were just so much more advanced than we were in the West. And advanced than we were in the West. And advanced than we were in the West. And we used economic games to shut them we used economic games to shut them we used economic games to shut them down. And so they've been held in like down. And so they've been held in like down. And so they've been held in like stasis for 40 years. stasis for 40 years. stasis for 40 years. >> And so now this is them going, "Fuck all >> And so now this is them going, "Fuck all >> And so now this is them going, "Fuck all that." Like we're coming back with a that." Like we're coming back with a that." Like we're coming back with a vengeance. We can feel China breathing vengeance. We can feel China breathing vengeance. We can feel China breathing down our neck. We have like centuries down our neck. We have like centuries down our neck. We have like centuries long hostility with China. And so we long hostility with China. And so we long hostility with China. And so we know if we're not able to defend know if we're not able to defend know if we're not able to defend ourselves, we've got a problem. We also ourselves, we've got a problem. We also ourselves, we've got a problem. We also know that we have a demographic problem. know that we have a demographic problem. know that we have a demographic problem. And so we've got to deal with that. They And so we've got to deal with that. They And so we've got to deal with that. They spent I don't know like three years spent I don't know like three years spent I don't know like three years importing foreigners only to be like importing foreigners only to be like importing foreigners only to be like hard pass. They they they do not play. hard pass. They they they do not play. hard pass. They they they do not play. They want Japan to be Japanese. And so They want Japan to be Japanese. And so They want Japan to be Japanese. And so uh I don't know how real this is, but uh I don't know how real this is, but uh I don't know how real this is, but what I was saying at the top of the show what I was saying at the top of the show what I was saying at the top of the show is the sushification of Japan where they is the sushification of Japan where they is the sushification of Japan where they are wrapping up uh migrants that are are wrapping up uh migrants that are are wrapping up uh migrants that are acting a fool. Yep, there's one right acting a fool. Yep, there's one right acting a fool. Yep, there's one right there. They literally swaddle them and there. They literally swaddle them and there. They literally swaddle them and then just load them up. Gotta go. This then just load them up. Gotta go. This then just load them up. Gotta go. This is wild. This is the most Japanese [ __ ] is wild. This is the most Japanese [ __ ] is wild. This is the most Japanese [ __ ] I've ever seen in my life. Okay, I took I've ever seen in my life. Okay, I took I've ever seen in my life. Okay, I took my mom to Japan. First of all, Japan is my mom to Japan. First of all, Japan is my mom to Japan. First of all, Japan is the dopest ever. You have to go. Are the dopest ever. You have to go. Are the dopest ever. You have to go. Are they racist? 100%. But like my mom and I they racist? 100%. But like my mom and I they racist? 100%. But like my mom and I were there and my mom smokes and they were there and my mom smokes and they were there and my mom smokes and they don't play. Like you can't even smoke don't play. Like you can't even smoke don't play. Like you can't even smoke outside. They're like, they're outside. They're like, they're outside. They're like, they're designated smoking areas and they have designated smoking areas and they have designated smoking areas and they have people wandering around with like little people wandering around with like little people wandering around with like little pouches to make you give them your pouches to make you give them your pouches to make you give them your cigarette. They put it out and then like cigarette. They put it out and then like cigarette. They put it out and then like tell you to like there are only certain tell you to like there are only certain tell you to like there are only certain areas. So like in a hotel where my mom areas. So like in a hotel where my mom areas. So like in a hotel where my mom and I were saying my mom smokes and so and I were saying my mom smokes and so and I were saying my mom smokes and so we had to go into this tiny like you we had to go into this tiny like you we had to go into this tiny like you shorten your life every time you go in shorten your life every time you go in shorten your life every time you go in this little room [laughter] a thousand%. this little room [laughter] a thousand%. this little room [laughter] a thousand%. It was the craziest [ __ ] I've ever seen. It was the craziest [ __ ] I've ever seen. It was the craziest [ __ ] I've ever seen. >> It's a thick gray cloud >> It's a thick gray cloud >> It's a thick gray cloud >> because you can't go outside. Imagine >> because you can't go outside. Imagine >> because you can't go outside. Imagine that. Japan so does not play. You can't that. Japan so does not play. You can't that. Japan so does not play. You can't go outside to smoke. You have to go in go outside to smoke. You have to go in go outside to smoke. You have to go in the tiny ass little death box inside the the tiny ass little death box inside the the tiny ass little death box inside the hotel to smoke. That's where Japan's at. hotel to smoke. That's where Japan's at. hotel to smoke. That's where Japan's at. They like if you don't abide by their They like if you don't abide by their They like if you don't abide by their culture, they don't have garbage cans culture, they don't have garbage cans culture, they don't have garbage cans like you if you eat something or like you if you eat something or like you if you eat something or whatever you have a package left in your whatever you have a package left in your whatever you have a package left in your going to carry it for hours going to carry it for hours going to carry it for hours because there's no trash cans. And in because there's no trash cans. And in because there's no trash cans. And in Japanese culture, I I would have thought Japanese culture, I I would have thought Japanese culture, I I would have thought no trash cans. Garbage is going to be on no trash cans. Garbage is going to be on no trash cans. Garbage is going to be on the floor everywhere. Nope. the floor everywhere. Nope. the floor everywhere. Nope. >> Japanese don't play. you drop trash, you >> Japanese don't play. you drop trash, you >> Japanese don't play. you drop trash, you you don't have to wait for the you don't have to wait for the you don't have to wait for the authorities. People are gonna shame you. authorities. People are gonna shame you. authorities. People are gonna shame you. >> Like they're they don't play, man. So, >> Like they're they don't play, man. So, >> Like they're they don't play, man. So, listen, it it is a wonderful place. I listen, it it is a wonderful place. I listen, it it is a wonderful place. I highly encourage people to visit it, but highly encourage people to visit it, but highly encourage people to visit it, but it is Japanese. Like, that is not like it is Japanese. Like, that is not like it is Japanese. Like, that is not like they're not trying to uh homogenize with they're not trying to uh homogenize with they're not trying to uh homogenize with the world. the world. the world. >> Um, also going back to the PM, I think >> Um, also going back to the PM, I think >> Um, also going back to the PM, I think it's hilarious and very telling of just it's hilarious and very telling of just it's hilarious and very telling of just America in general that she's the leader America in general that she's the leader America in general that she's the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party and of the Liberal Democratic Party and of the Liberal Democratic Party and she's the one who's anti-immigrant. This she's the one who's anti-immigrant. This she's the one who's anti-immigrant. This is their liberal. is their liberal. is their liberal. >> This is their This is their >> This is their This is their >> This is their This is their >> That is the wildest [ __ ] ever. >> That is the wildest [ __ ] ever. >> That is the wildest [ __ ] ever. >> This just to level set us. It's not all >> This just to level set us. It's not all >> This just to level set us. It's not all about America. Uh about America. Uh about America. Uh >> liberal in Japan is [laughter] a whole >> liberal in Japan is [laughter] a whole >> liberal in Japan is [laughter] a whole different scene. different scene. different scene. >> It's a whole different meeting. So >> It's a whole different meeting. So >> It's a whole different meeting. So >> that's hilarious. >> that's hilarious. >> that's hilarious. >> That's crazy. Um all right. AI has been >> That's crazy. Um all right. AI has been >> That's crazy. Um all right. AI has been going crazy. I don't know if we want to going crazy. I don't know if we want to going crazy. I don't know if we want to start with the moon. I don't know if we start with the moon. I don't know if we start with the moon. I don't know if we want to start with these AI film making want to start with these AI film making want to start with these AI film making things. Uh this Dragon Ball Z anime was things. Uh this Dragon Ball Z anime was things. Uh this Dragon Ball Z anime was kind of crazy. kind of crazy. kind of crazy. >> Yeah, I think so. Uh >> Yeah, I think so. Uh >> Yeah, I think so. Uh let's start with the AI videos. Um, let's start with the AI videos. Um, let's start with the AI videos. Um, let's set the stage with how rapidly let's set the stage with how rapidly let's set the stage with how rapidly this is evolving. Okay, so we recently this is evolving. Okay, so we recently this is evolving. Okay, so we recently had somebody on the show who uh and I'm had somebody on the show who uh and I'm had somebody on the show who uh and I'm ashamed of myself because in the video I ashamed of myself because in the video I ashamed of myself because in the video I did not push back hard enough, but they did not push back hard enough, but they did not push back hard enough, but they were saying basically that when was the were saying basically that when was the were saying basically that when was the last time the AI really made a big last time the AI really made a big last time the AI really made a big advance? And I was like, okay, yeah, advance? And I was like, okay, yeah, advance? And I was like, okay, yeah, admittedly four to five on chat wasn't admittedly four to five on chat wasn't admittedly four to five on chat wasn't that great. Um, and that great. Um, and that great. Um, and then the very next day I experienced then the very next day I experienced then the very next day I experienced chat like prop pro chat like prop pro chat like prop pro >> and was completely blown away. Uh, I've >> and was completely blown away. Uh, I've >> and was completely blown away. Uh, I've since migrated mostly to Claude and that since migrated mostly to Claude and that since migrated mostly to Claude and that has blown me away. has blown me away. has blown me away. >> Eric, toss this up. >> Eric, toss this up. >> Eric, toss this up. >> Um, and >> Um, and >> Um, and >> I realized like there um, so what's his >> I realized like there um, so what's his >> I realized like there um, so what's his name? Yan Lun. So Yan Lun sort of got name? Yan Lun. So Yan Lun sort of got name? Yan Lun. So Yan Lun sort of got chased out of AI circles because he kept chased out of AI circles because he kept chased out of AI circles because he kept saying like this stuff just isn't that saying like this stuff just isn't that saying like this stuff just isn't that good and large language models are never good and large language models are never good and large language models are never going to get us there. Uh it's just not going to get us there. Uh it's just not going to get us there. Uh it's just not the right technology. And so um by the the right technology. And so um by the the right technology. And so um by the time he would say that in the podcast time he would say that in the podcast time he would say that in the podcast would come out, somebody would do would come out, somebody would do would come out, somebody would do something that would just break that. something that would just break that. something that would just break that. Same for me, right? So since doing that Same for me, right? So since doing that Same for me, right? So since doing that podcast multiple times now, I've been podcast multiple times now, I've been podcast multiple times now, I've been completely blown away by some new AI completely blown away by some new AI completely blown away by some new AI thing. Um, and so with that in mind, I thing. Um, and so with that in mind, I thing. Um, and so with that in mind, I just don't see where we're running into just don't see where we're running into just don't see where we're running into a wall. Like even as regulators, and a wall. Like even as regulators, and a wall. Like even as regulators, and we'll get into this more with the trip we'll get into this more with the trip we'll get into this more with the trip to the moon, as regulators try to curb to the moon, as regulators try to curb to the moon, as regulators try to curb data centers and things like that, data centers and things like that, data centers and things like that, people are finding ways around it. So, people are finding ways around it. So, people are finding ways around it. So, um, while it seems like every technology um, while it seems like every technology um, while it seems like every technology does eventually hit some sort of wall, does eventually hit some sort of wall, does eventually hit some sort of wall, it doesn't feel like AI is anywhere near it doesn't feel like AI is anywhere near it doesn't feel like AI is anywhere near that. And even just fully integrating that. And even just fully integrating that. And even just fully integrating what already exists in AI would take what already exists in AI would take what already exists in AI would take years. years. years. >> So, [clears throat] >> So, [clears throat] >> So, [clears throat] um, with that, look at this Will Smith um, with that, look at this Will Smith um, with that, look at this Will Smith eating spaghetti progression over the eating spaghetti progression over the eating spaghetti progression over the years starting in 2023. years starting in 2023. years starting in 2023. >> I had this playing over in the >> I had this playing over in the >> I had this playing over in the background. background. background. >> Oh, cool. So, anybody that was looking >> Oh, cool. So, anybody that was looking >> Oh, cool. So, anybody that was looking at their phone, um, so you can see by at their phone, um, so you can see by at their phone, um, so you can see by the end that it it just it looks the end that it it just it looks the end that it it just it looks completely natural. It's not 100% there, completely natural. It's not 100% there, completely natural. It's not 100% there, and you can tell in the voice more than and you can tell in the voice more than and you can tell in the voice more than the visuals. But look at this. This the visuals. But look at this. This the visuals. But look at this. This battle uh is Dragon Ball Z but done in battle uh is Dragon Ball Z but done in battle uh is Dragon Ball Z but done in like an old kung fu movie style. like an old kung fu movie style. like an old kung fu movie style. >> And so >> And so >> And so >> the mental gymnastics you have to get to >> the mental gymnastics you have to get to >> the mental gymnastics you have to get to to represent to represent to represent anime characters as humans but in a anime characters as humans but in a anime characters as humans but in a particular style from you know an era of particular style from you know an era of particular style from you know an era of film making is crazy. And my brain just film making is crazy. And my brain just film making is crazy. And my brain just refuses to accept that those aren't refuses to accept that those aren't refuses to accept that those aren't actual humans actually doing this. actual humans actually doing this. actual humans actually doing this. That's how real the musculature is real. That's how real the musculature is real. That's how real the musculature is real. The movements are real. The dust kicking The movements are real. The dust kicking The movements are real. The dust kicking up on the ground is real. It's crazy. up on the ground is real. It's crazy. up on the ground is real. It's crazy. All right. There's another one. Um. Yes. All right. There's another one. Um. Yes. All right. There's another one. Um. Yes. So there Sea Dance, which I believe is So there Sea Dance, which I believe is So there Sea Dance, which I believe is uh an offshoot of Bite Dance, which did uh an offshoot of Bite Dance, which did uh an offshoot of Bite Dance, which did Tik Tok. So, this is out of China and Tik Tok. So, this is out of China and Tik Tok. So, this is out of China and supposedly they're not letting people supposedly they're not letting people supposedly they're not letting people outside of China use it, but you're able outside of China use it, but you're able outside of China use it, but you're able to prompt like scenes off of a single to prompt like scenes off of a single to prompt like scenes off of a single image and make edits and changes, swap image and make edits and changes, swap image and make edits and changes, swap characters, swap camera angles. And when characters, swap camera angles. And when characters, swap camera angles. And when I say that, this is getting I say that, this is getting I say that, this is getting extraordinarily good. If you're not extraordinarily good. If you're not extraordinarily good. If you're not looking at your computer or your uh looking at your computer or your uh looking at your computer or your uh phone, this is incredible. Like this is phone, this is incredible. Like this is phone, this is incredible. Like this is filmworthy, CGI, like absolutely filmworthy, CGI, like absolutely filmworthy, CGI, like absolutely bananas. Now, at the edges, of course, bananas. Now, at the edges, of course, bananas. Now, at the edges, of course, you can see like, okay, one shot might you can see like, okay, one shot might you can see like, okay, one shot might be a little weird or whatever, but this be a little weird or whatever, but this be a little weird or whatever, but this is unbelievable. Now, from a game is unbelievable. Now, from a game is unbelievable. Now, from a game perspective, I'm like, okay, like this perspective, I'm like, okay, like this perspective, I'm like, okay, like this is getting now. So, uh, Kaizen will is getting now. So, uh, Kaizen will is getting now. So, uh, Kaizen will start doing what I think will be limited start doing what I think will be limited start doing what I think will be limited cut sequences, but in about a year, but cut sequences, but in about a year, but cut sequences, but in about a year, but when I think, well, how far is this when I think, well, how far is this when I think, well, how far is this going to be in a year? Like, it might going to be in a year? Like, it might going to be in a year? Like, it might not be as limited as I think. So the not be as limited as I think. So the not be as limited as I think. So the rate at which this is getting better in rate at which this is getting better in rate at which this is getting better in three years is insane. What does this three years is insane. What does this three years is insane. What does this look like in another three years? look like in another three years? look like in another three years? Because what people have to remember is Because what people have to remember is Because what people have to remember is a lot of the improvement isn't just a lot of the improvement isn't just a lot of the improvement isn't just going to be uh more and bigger data sets going to be uh more and bigger data sets going to be uh more and bigger data sets and training and all that because people and training and all that because people and training and all that because people are going to say, well, you're going to are going to say, well, you're going to are going to say, well, you're going to run into a data problem, which we're run into a data problem, which we're run into a data problem, which we're really already at. really already at. really already at. >> But even just giving it feedback and >> But even just giving it feedback and >> But even just giving it feedback and saying, okay, this one's better than saying, okay, this one's better than saying, okay, this one's better than this one. You need to make this change. this one. You need to make this change. this one. You need to make this change. creating better interfaces so that you creating better interfaces so that you creating better interfaces so that you can edit different elements and not have can edit different elements and not have can edit different elements and not have to, you know, just one whole shot at a to, you know, just one whole shot at a to, you know, just one whole shot at a time. Uh being able to get consistency time. Uh being able to get consistency time. Uh being able to get consistency of characters, things that will propel of characters, things that will propel of characters, things that will propel this forward dramatically. You don't this forward dramatically. You don't this forward dramatically. You don't need more advancements in AI, you need need more advancements in AI, you need need more advancements in AI, you need advancements in UI. So just getting the advancements in UI. So just getting the advancements in UI. So just getting the user interface better, giving people user interface better, giving people user interface better, giving people more control. So it's like if all AI more control. So it's like if all AI more control. So it's like if all AI progress stopped right now, I would say progress stopped right now, I would say progress stopped right now, I would say within five years, within five years, within five years, 25% of the content you watch is AI 25% of the content you watch is AI 25% of the content you watch is AI generated and you don't think about it. generated and you don't think about it. generated and you don't think about it. You don't discern. You're just like, You don't discern. You're just like, You don't discern. You're just like, "Yeah, dope." "Yeah, dope." "Yeah, dope." >> And I'm going to be honest, this like >> And I'm going to be honest, this like >> And I'm going to be honest, this like these latest breakthroughs were the these latest breakthroughs were the these latest breakthroughs were the first time I'll be like, "Okay, that is first time I'll be like, "Okay, that is first time I'll be like, "Okay, that is kind of cool. I can see stories that I kind of cool. I can see stories that I kind of cool. I can see stories that I had buried in here that just were too had buried in here that just were too had buried in here that just were too expensive, can't make it happen, all expensive, can't make it happen, all expensive, can't make it happen, all these other things that I would love to these other things that I would love to these other things that I would love to prompt." But to your point, I think UI, prompt." But to your point, I think UI, prompt." But to your point, I think UI, there needs to be a shift between, hey, there needs to be a shift between, hey, there needs to be a shift between, hey, make a cool fight scene like Dragon Ball make a cool fight scene like Dragon Ball make a cool fight scene like Dragon Ball Z. Enter. And instead, this is my Z. Enter. And instead, this is my Z. Enter. And instead, this is my script. This is the scenes. These are script. This is the scenes. These are script. This is the scenes. These are the characters. Let me upload it. Okay, the characters. Let me upload it. Okay, the characters. Let me upload it. Okay, this character does this move. And that this character does this move. And that this character does this move. And that that control. So, it's almost like, you that control. So, it's almost like, you that control. So, it's almost like, you know, when you're growing up and you know, when you're growing up and you know, when you're growing up and you have little action figures and you're have little action figures and you're have little action figures and you're modeling scenes. If there is something modeling scenes. If there is something modeling scenes. If there is something that had that level of control where that had that level of control where that had that level of control where character one does this, character B character one does this, character B character one does this, character B responds like this, and you can get to responds like this, and you can get to responds like this, and you can get to that level of it, that where I think that level of it, that where I think that level of it, that where I think we'll really see a takeoff. like the we'll really see a takeoff. like the we'll really see a takeoff. like the prompt thing. It's easy. I get it. It's prompt thing. It's easy. I get it. It's prompt thing. It's easy. I get it. It's cool. But I would like to see that cool. But I would like to see that cool. But I would like to see that second layer of control somewhere. So, second layer of control somewhere. So, second layer of control somewhere. So, I'm waiting for whatever system to kind I'm waiting for whatever system to kind I'm waiting for whatever system to kind of lean into that first. of lean into that first. of lean into that first. >> So, there is So, that stuff is coming. >> So, there is So, that stuff is coming. >> So, there is So, that stuff is coming. There's a movie coming out, I think, in There's a movie coming out, I think, in There's a movie coming out, I think, in roughly 14 or 15 months. At the time roughly 14 or 15 months. At the time roughly 14 or 15 months. At the time they made the announcement, I believe it they made the announcement, I believe it they made the announcement, I believe it was 18 months. Open AAI is a part of it was 18 months. Open AAI is a part of it was 18 months. Open AAI is a part of it and it's going to be, I believe, and it's going to be, I believe, and it's going to be, I believe, entirely done with AI, but with like a entirely done with AI, but with like a entirely done with AI, but with like a real film crew behind it. real film crew behind it. real film crew behind it. >> So, you've got a film crew using AI to >> So, you've got a film crew using AI to >> So, you've got a film crew using AI to do concept art. you've got a film crew do concept art. you've got a film crew do concept art. you've got a film crew behind it doing cinematics or behind it doing cinematics or behind it doing cinematics or cinematography and all that stuff. And cinematography and all that stuff. And cinematography and all that stuff. And so, um, it will still take them, like I so, um, it will still take them, like I so, um, it will still take them, like I said, roughly 18 months to do, but I'm said, roughly 18 months to do, but I'm said, roughly 18 months to do, but I'm sure it's going to be a much smaller sure it's going to be a much smaller sure it's going to be a much smaller team. So, when you start talking about, team. So, when you start talking about, team. So, when you start talking about, okay, it's still like a Hollywood okay, it's still like a Hollywood okay, it's still like a Hollywood system. It still requires like very system. It still requires like very system. It still requires like very talented writers. It still requires talented writers. It still requires talented writers. It still requires people that have incredible taste to people that have incredible taste to people that have incredible taste to really get something that works, but really get something that works, but really get something that works, but like imagine if you can reduce the cost like imagine if you can reduce the cost like imagine if you can reduce the cost of a film by 80%. So, it's still of a film by 80%. So, it's still of a film by 80%. So, it's still millions of dollars, but a blockbuster millions of dollars, but a blockbuster millions of dollars, but a blockbuster instead of being $300 million, let's instead of being $300 million, let's instead of being $300 million, let's say, is $30 million. Bro, that is say, is $30 million. Bro, that is say, is $30 million. Bro, that is gigantic. [clears throat] gigantic. [clears throat] gigantic. [clears throat] >> So, um that's where I expect the sort of >> So, um that's where I expect the sort of >> So, um that's where I expect the sort of next call it three to five years to play next call it three to five years to play next call it three to five years to play out where we've just so dramatically out where we've just so dramatically out where we've just so dramatically reduced the budgets and then north of reduced the budgets and then north of reduced the budgets and then north of five years, I think it starts to really five years, I think it starts to really five years, I think it starts to really just be what you're talking about, which just be what you're talking about, which just be what you're talking about, which is h people can make their own stuff. So is h people can make their own stuff. So is h people can make their own stuff. So now there's just such a flood that I now there's just such a flood that I now there's just such a flood that I worry what people are telling us is that worry what people are telling us is that worry what people are telling us is that when there's that much content, you just when there's that much content, you just when there's that much content, you just always want a TLDDR. Make me make me a always want a TLDDR. Make me make me a always want a TLDDR. Make me make me a real of Dragon Ball Z. Don't make me real of Dragon Ball Z. Don't make me real of Dragon Ball Z. Don't make me watch like the whole thing. And so it's watch like the whole thing. And so it's watch like the whole thing. And so it's just reals and reels and reels and just reals and reels and reels and just reals and reels and reels and reels. reels. reels. >> I'm an old fddy duddy when it comes to >> I'm an old fddy duddy when it comes to >> I'm an old fddy duddy when it comes to that. Like that makes me sad. Like the that. Like that makes me sad. Like the that. Like that makes me sad. Like the emotional depth that you can get on a emotional depth that you can get on a emotional depth that you can get on a long series is just incredible. But if long series is just incredible. But if long series is just incredible. But if your brain wasn't developed to think of your brain wasn't developed to think of your brain wasn't developed to think of that, to respond to that, you don't have that, to respond to that, you don't have that, to respond to that, you don't have any context for it. You don't seek it any context for it. You don't seek it any context for it. You don't seek it out because I'm sure there are people out because I'm sure there are people out because I'm sure there are people who are like, um, sitting with a fiction who are like, um, sitting with a fiction who are like, um, sitting with a fiction book, which I never do once a year, uh, book, which I never do once a year, uh, book, which I never do once a year, uh, is so amazing. Anybody's life who is so amazing. Anybody's life who is so amazing. Anybody's life who doesn't have that every, you know, doesn't have that every, you know, doesn't have that every, you know, weekend or whatever is just like I weep weekend or whatever is just like I weep weekend or whatever is just like I weep for them, for them, for them, but I don't miss it. It's like I've got but I don't miss it. It's like I've got but I don't miss it. It's like I've got so many other things that I find so many other things that I find so many other things that I find engaging. Um, so the world just moves engaging. Um, so the world just moves engaging. Um, so the world just moves on. So anyway, that's one that'll make on. So anyway, that's one that'll make on. So anyway, that's one that'll make me sad. And me sad. And me sad. And >> it's interesting that you brought that >> it's interesting that you brought that >> it's interesting that you brought that Dragon Ball Z point up cuz somebody on Dragon Ball Z point up cuz somebody on Dragon Ball Z point up cuz somebody on Twitter did a super cut of like all of Twitter did a super cut of like all of Twitter did a super cut of like all of Goku's like Super Saiyans. Goku's like Super Saiyans. Goku's like Super Saiyans. >> And I remember growing up, it literally >> And I remember growing up, it literally >> And I remember growing up, it literally took years for him to get Super Saiyan took years for him to get Super Saiyan took years for him to get Super Saiyan 1. Like that was like a 2year arc. And 1. Like that was like a 2year arc. And 1. Like that was like a 2year arc. And just now kids are like, "Oh yeah, 1 2 3 just now kids are like, "Oh yeah, 1 2 3 just now kids are like, "Oh yeah, 1 2 3 4 5 6. Oh, and then now he's eight. And 4 5 6. Oh, and then now he's eight. And 4 5 6. Oh, and then now he's eight. And now that there's blue hair, now he's god now that there's blue hair, now he's god now that there's blue hair, now he's god mode." And it's just like you just mode." And it's just like you just mode." And it's just like you just skipped all of the tomorrow's the skipped all of the tomorrow's the skipped all of the tomorrow's the episode where he finally like all that episode where he finally like all that episode where he finally like all that anticipation just kind of gone. So I do anticipation just kind of gone. So I do anticipation just kind of gone. So I do also kind of reminisce with that. But I also kind of reminisce with that. But I also kind of reminisce with that. But I mean it's just now there has to be mean it's just now there has to be mean it's just now there has to be something on the other side. Um something on the other side. Um something on the other side. Um >> I do think that we will eventually run >> I do think that we will eventually run >> I do think that we will eventually run into a problem with the way that the into a problem with the way that the into a problem with the way that the human mind works. human mind works. human mind works. >> Um there are just certain things that >> Um there are just certain things that >> Um there are just certain things that the mind is architected to expect to the mind is architected to expect to the mind is architected to expect to want to thrive in that environment want to thrive in that environment want to thrive in that environment >> and um progress is a foundational pillar >> and um progress is a foundational pillar >> and um progress is a foundational pillar of human happiness. So, I think we have of human happiness. So, I think we have of human happiness. So, I think we have an algorithm in our brain that wants an algorithm in our brain that wants an algorithm in our brain that wants struggle to equal I got better and that struggle to equal I got better and that struggle to equal I got better and that getting better at this thing matters and getting better at this thing matters and getting better at this thing matters and that I do a thing that makes people that I do a thing that makes people that I do a thing that makes people praise me. I think that's effectively praise me. I think that's effectively praise me. I think that's effectively the loop. the loop. the loop. >> And so, if you don't have that and >> And so, if you don't have that and >> And so, if you don't have that and you're always shortcutting to the end, you're always shortcutting to the end, you're always shortcutting to the end, you'll get there faster and you'll get you'll get there faster and you'll get you'll get there faster and you'll get that brief dopamine uh hit, but you'll that brief dopamine uh hit, but you'll that brief dopamine uh hit, but you'll never get the substantive like progress. never get the substantive like progress. never get the substantive like progress. This is why people get addicted to drugs This is why people get addicted to drugs This is why people get addicted to drugs because all of life I am convinced is because all of life I am convinced is because all of life I am convinced is about neurochemical manipulation. Like about neurochemical manipulation. Like about neurochemical manipulation. Like we are just trying to manipulate our we are just trying to manipulate our we are just trying to manipulate our neurochemistry. Whether that's sex, neurochemistry. Whether that's sex, neurochemistry. Whether that's sex, whether that's progress, whether it's whether that's progress, whether it's whether that's progress, whether it's food, whether it's drugs and alcohol. food, whether it's drugs and alcohol. food, whether it's drugs and alcohol. We're just trying to manipulate our We're just trying to manipulate our We're just trying to manipulate our brain chemistry. And when it's done in brain chemistry. And when it's done in brain chemistry. And when it's done in the context of a full human life, it the context of a full human life, it the context of a full human life, it feels awesome. But when you short feels awesome. But when you short feels awesome. But when you short circuit that to drugs and just give me circuit that to drugs and just give me circuit that to drugs and just give me the drug, then all of a sudden people the drug, then all of a sudden people the drug, then all of a sudden people spiral and their life becomes addiction. spiral and their life becomes addiction. spiral and their life becomes addiction. And like we know the outcome there. Like And like we know the outcome there. Like And like we know the outcome there. Like when all the other things, the hard when all the other things, the hard when all the other things, the hard work, the just being plugged into the work, the just being plugged into the work, the just being plugged into the way that society is structured, like all way that society is structured, like all way that society is structured, like all of that stuff assumes you're working of that stuff assumes you're working of that stuff assumes you're working hard to progress over time, hard to progress over time, hard to progress over time, >> uh to, you know, get the money and to >> uh to, you know, get the money and to >> uh to, you know, get the money and to get the accolades from your community. get the accolades from your community. get the accolades from your community. Like that's what everything is built Like that's what everything is built Like that's what everything is built for. When you eject out of that to get for. When you eject out of that to get for. When you eject out of that to get it super quick, it leads to devastation. it super quick, it leads to devastation. it super quick, it leads to devastation. like it actually tears your life apart. like it actually tears your life apart. like it actually tears your life apart. And so I think we have to remind And so I think we have to remind And so I think we have to remind ourselves that addiction does not only ourselves that addiction does not only ourselves that addiction does not only come in the form of an exogenous come in the form of an exogenous come in the form of an exogenous chemical that you take. It can be many chemical that you take. It can be many chemical that you take. It can be many things. And if one of those addictions things. And if one of those addictions things. And if one of those addictions is skip to the punchline really really is skip to the punchline really really is skip to the punchline really really fast so I can pull the dopamine to right fast so I can pull the dopamine to right fast so I can pull the dopamine to right now now now >> that doesn't stack in the way that your >> that doesn't stack in the way that your >> that doesn't stack in the way that your brain expects it to. So you might get brain expects it to. So you might get brain expects it to. So you might get the dopamine hit, but it will erode your the dopamine hit, but it will erode your the dopamine hit, but it will erode your life in the same way that a drug life in the same way that a drug life in the same way that a drug addiction erodess your life. addiction erodess your life. addiction erodess your life. >> Yeah. Um, it's interesting and I'm >> Yeah. Um, it's interesting and I'm >> Yeah. Um, it's interesting and I'm queuing up the hard mode uh thing with queuing up the hard mode uh thing with queuing up the hard mode uh thing with the SpaceX colony. But this weekend I the SpaceX colony. But this weekend I the SpaceX colony. But this weekend I had a volunteer event that I got roped had a volunteer event that I got roped had a volunteer event that I got roped into with my daughter's like step team into with my daughter's like step team into with my daughter's like step team and it was like oh we're volunteering at and it was like oh we're volunteering at and it was like oh we're volunteering at the Supercross thing. We're going to do the Supercross thing. We're going to do the Supercross thing. We're going to do like a concession stand. like a concession stand. like a concession stand. >> Supercross motorcycles. >> Supercross motorcycles. >> Supercross motorcycles. >> Yes. So So me I'm like concession stand. >> Yes. So So me I'm like concession stand. >> Yes. So So me I'm like concession stand. I'm thinking high school. I'm thinking I'm thinking high school. I'm thinking I'm thinking high school. I'm thinking it's going to be like a small booth but it's going to be like a small booth but it's going to be like a small booth but no we were like inside the stadium like no we were like inside the stadium like no we were like inside the stadium like in one of those like actual things like in one of those like actual things like in one of those like actual things like I did like a 9-h hour shift like they I did like a 9-h hour shift like they I did like a 9-h hour shift like they roped me into like working. Yes. I I was roped me into like working. Yes. I I was roped me into like working. Yes. I I was a little bit frustrated than that. But a little bit frustrated than that. But a little bit frustrated than that. But the interesting thing was like I was on the interesting thing was like I was on the interesting thing was like I was on the cash register. Lim was behind me. the cash register. Lim was behind me. the cash register. Lim was behind me. She was like the runner. So I like they She was like the runner. So I like they She was like the runner. So I like they need nachos. She'll go get the nachos, need nachos. She'll go get the nachos, need nachos. She'll go get the nachos, fill it up with cheese, give it to the fill it up with cheese, give it to the fill it up with cheese, give it to the customer or whatever like that. But then customer or whatever like that. But then customer or whatever like that. But then we got so swamped. I guess it was we got so swamped. I guess it was we got so swamped. I guess it was halftime for Supercross. I didn't know halftime for Supercross. I didn't know halftime for Supercross. I didn't know like whenever it was just a bunch of like whenever it was just a bunch of like whenever it was just a bunch of lines. We opened up all the other lines. lines. We opened up all the other lines. lines. We opened up all the other lines. We started running out of food. So the We started running out of food. So the We started running out of food. So the guy next to me had to go in the back to guy next to me had to go in the back to guy next to me had to go in the back to start making food. And then was like, start making food. And then was like, start making food. And then was like, "Dad, teach me how to work the "Dad, teach me how to work the "Dad, teach me how to work the register." So I like taught her real register." So I like taught her real register." So I like taught her real quick. And then she started to like hold quick. And then she started to like hold quick. And then she started to like hold her own and was taking customers and her own and was taking customers and her own and was taking customers and stuff like that. And when I tell you I stuff like that. And when I tell you I stuff like that. And when I tell you I had to drag her out the bed that had to drag her out the bed that had to drag her out the bed that morning. She didn't want to go. This is morning. She didn't want to go. This is morning. She didn't want to go. This is stupid. I don't want to do it. I hate I stupid. I don't want to do it. I hate I stupid. I don't want to do it. I hate I hate it. I hate it. And then by the end hate it. I hate it. And then by the end hate it. I hate it. And then by the end of the day, she's like, "Yo, I was kind of the day, she's like, "Yo, I was kind of the day, she's like, "Yo, I was kind of killing it. I like being so there is of killing it. I like being so there is of killing it. I like being so there is that thing that like we need we need to that thing that like we need we need to that thing that like we need we need to have this like approval feedback loop. have this like approval feedback loop. have this like approval feedback loop. Like it it is fundamental." And a lot of Like it it is fundamental." And a lot of Like it it is fundamental." And a lot of that is on the other side of things we that is on the other side of things we that is on the other side of things we don't want. So now I'm queuing up this don't want. So now I'm queuing up this don't want. So now I'm queuing up this Elon thing because when I first heard Elon thing because when I first heard Elon thing because when I first heard like we're there's going to be a growing like we're there's going to be a growing like we're there's going to be a growing city on the moon like hard mode I guess. city on the moon like hard mode I guess. city on the moon like hard mode I guess. But there is going to be a portion of But there is going to be a portion of But there is going to be a portion of people that are like computers easy, people that are like computers easy, people that are like computers easy, this is easy, I can't do sports. All this is easy, I can't do sports. All this is easy, I can't do sports. All right. I need to just go blow something right. I need to just go blow something right. I need to just go blow something up. I need to hit a rock really hard and up. I need to hit a rock really hard and up. I need to hit a rock really hard and break it into two and that way I could break it into two and that way I could break it into two and that way I could feel like I I accomplished something feel like I I accomplished something feel like I I accomplished something today. So it's like today. So it's like today. So it's like >> that hard mode thing is starting to >> that hard mode thing is starting to >> that hard mode thing is starting to actually like come I think into fruition actually like come I think into fruition actually like come I think into fruition especially once that meaningless crisis especially once that meaningless crisis especially once that meaningless crisis happen when AI does hit that like happen when AI does hit that like happen when AI does hit that like asotope. It just kind of goes crazy. asotope. It just kind of goes crazy. asotope. It just kind of goes crazy. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yeah. This this one is for me this is >> Yeah. This this one is for me this is >> Yeah. This this one is for me this is thrilling. The fact that we're going to thrilling. The fact that we're going to thrilling. The fact that we're going to build a colony on the moon is one of the build a colony on the moon is one of the build a colony on the moon is one of the most exciting things that I can think most exciting things that I can think most exciting things that I can think about actually happening in my lifetime. about actually happening in my lifetime. about actually happening in my lifetime. And when you really break down what the And when you really break down what the And when you really break down what the motivations are, I think that this is motivations are, I think that this is motivations are, I think that this is economic. And the reason I bring that up economic. And the reason I bring that up economic. And the reason I bring that up is you can trust that it's actually is you can trust that it's actually is you can trust that it's actually going to happen. Like once you know, oh, going to happen. Like once you know, oh, going to happen. Like once you know, oh, I'm just aligning myself to somebody's I'm just aligning myself to somebody's I'm just aligning myself to somebody's selfish desires. Perfect. I think Elon selfish desires. Perfect. I think Elon selfish desires. Perfect. I think Elon is looking at the moon. Well, first he's is looking at the moon. Well, first he's is looking at the moon. Well, first he's looking at Mars and he's saying, okay, I looking at Mars and he's saying, okay, I looking at Mars and he's saying, okay, I want to make us multilanetary. I built want to make us multilanetary. I built want to make us multilanetary. I built this incredible business um doing that, this incredible business um doing that, this incredible business um doing that, launching things into space. I want to launching things into space. I want to launching things into space. I want to get us there. But he realizes that given get us there. But he realizes that given get us there. But he realizes that given how it's like an 18-month trip, uh given how it's like an 18-month trip, uh given how it's like an 18-month trip, uh given that it is um narrow windows where you that it is um narrow windows where you that it is um narrow windows where you can actually get there in the first can actually get there in the first can actually get there in the first place, that iterating on things that place, that iterating on things that place, that iterating on things that happen on Mars is going to be a very happen on Mars is going to be a very happen on Mars is going to be a very slow process. And so uh you know, he's slow process. And so uh you know, he's slow process. And so uh you know, he's not a spring chicken. Obviously, we all not a spring chicken. Obviously, we all not a spring chicken. Obviously, we all have limits. And so I imagine he looks have limits. And so I imagine he looks have limits. And so I imagine he looks at that and goes, "Hm, I'm not sure how at that and goes, "Hm, I'm not sure how at that and goes, "Hm, I'm not sure how quickly we're going to be able to do quickly we're going to be able to do quickly we're going to be able to do that." He maps out what is happening that." He maps out what is happening that." He maps out what is happening from a regulatory standpoint here with from a regulatory standpoint here with from a regulatory standpoint here with AI. He obviously understands whoever AI. He obviously understands whoever AI. He obviously understands whoever wins AI wins full stop. So he's in that wins AI wins full stop. So he's in that wins AI wins full stop. So he's in that race. He knows that he's faster from an race. He knows that he's faster from an race. He knows that he's faster from an engineering perspective, from a buildout engineering perspective, from a buildout engineering perspective, from a buildout perspective than literally any human perspective than literally any human perspective than literally any human alive. And he goes, "Okay, wait a alive. And he goes, "Okay, wait a alive. And he goes, "Okay, wait a second. We've got two big beats. We've second. We've got two big beats. We've second. We've got two big beats. We've got cooling needs." And so being able to got cooling needs." And so being able to got cooling needs." And so being able to get the power that we need to a data get the power that we need to a data get the power that we need to a data center is becoming increasingly center is becoming increasingly center is becoming increasingly difficult given regulatory problems. Uh difficult given regulatory problems. Uh difficult given regulatory problems. Uh but space is effectively infinitely but space is effectively infinitely but space is effectively infinitely cold. And so we can go into space, no cold. And so we can go into space, no cold. And so we can go into space, no problem. And then the other is quantum problem. And then the other is quantum problem. And then the other is quantum compute, which also requires things to compute, which also requires things to compute, which also requires things to be really, really cold. And he's talking be really, really cold. And he's talking be really, really cold. And he's talking about putting them inside of craters on about putting them inside of craters on about putting them inside of craters on Mars where there's effectively no Mars where there's effectively no Mars where there's effectively no weather. Um, I don't know if it's if you weather. Um, I don't know if it's if you weather. Um, I don't know if it's if you protect yourself from the dust particles protect yourself from the dust particles protect yourself from the dust particles there or not. That may or may not be there or not. That may or may not be there or not. That may or may not be part of this, but basically uh you don't part of this, but basically uh you don't part of this, but basically uh you don't have to deal with sunlight. You don't have to deal with sunlight. You don't have to deal with sunlight. You don't have to deal uh with having to cool have to deal uh with having to cool have to deal uh with having to cool these things. And so now for effectively these things. And so now for effectively these things. And so now for effectively free, I mean let's put that in quotes free, I mean let's put that in quotes free, I mean let's put that in quotes because you have to go to the moon. Uh because you have to go to the moon. Uh because you have to go to the moon. Uh they can build out quantum centers, data they can build out quantum centers, data they can build out quantum centers, data centers either in orbit or on the moon centers either in orbit or on the moon centers either in orbit or on the moon itself while practicing for Mars. Now he itself while practicing for Mars. Now he itself while practicing for Mars. Now he has said we're not going to the moon has said we're not going to the moon has said we're not going to the moon because we want to build a base and then because we want to build a base and then because we want to build a base and then launch things from there. We're still launch things from there. We're still launch things from there. We're still going to launch from Earth. So he's going to launch from Earth. So he's going to launch from Earth. So he's doing something else. And I think it's doing something else. And I think it's doing something else. And I think it's those two things. I think it's doing the those two things. I think it's doing the those two things. I think it's doing the dry run, being able to iterate much dry run, being able to iterate much dry run, being able to iterate much faster. It's a three-day trip. You can faster. It's a three-day trip. You can faster. It's a three-day trip. You can go anytime you want. Well, I think go anytime you want. Well, I think go anytime you want. Well, I think there's like there's like there's like >> uh I forget how long, but it's a very >> uh I forget how long, but it's a very >> uh I forget how long, but it's a very very limited amount of time. Oh, very limited amount of time. Oh, very limited amount of time. Oh, perfect. perfect. perfect. >> For those unaware, SpaceX has already >> For those unaware, SpaceX has already >> For those unaware, SpaceX has already shifted focus to building a self-growing shifted focus to building a self-growing shifted focus to building a self-growing city on the moon as we potentially city on the moon as we potentially city on the moon as we potentially achieve that in less than 10 years, achieve that in less than 10 years, achieve that in less than 10 years, whereas Mars will take 20 plus. The whereas Mars will take 20 plus. The whereas Mars will take 20 plus. The mission of SpaceX remains the same, mission of SpaceX remains the same, mission of SpaceX remains the same, extending consciousness and life as we extending consciousness and life as we extending consciousness and life as we know it to the stars. It is only know it to the stars. It is only know it to the stars. It is only possible to travel to Mars where the possible to travel to Mars where the possible to travel to Mars where the planets align every 26 months and it's a planets align every 26 months and it's a planets align every 26 months and it's a six-month trip time, whereas we can six-month trip time, whereas we can six-month trip time, whereas we can launch to the moon every 10 days. It's a launch to the moon every 10 days. It's a launch to the moon every 10 days. It's a two-day trip time. This means we can two-day trip time. This means we can two-day trip time. This means we can iterate much faster to complete a moon iterate much faster to complete a moon iterate much faster to complete a moon city than a Mars city. That said, SpaceX city than a Mars city. That said, SpaceX city than a Mars city. That said, SpaceX will also strive to build a Mars city will also strive to build a Mars city will also strive to build a Mars city and begin doing so in about 5 to seven and begin doing so in about 5 to seven and begin doing so in about 5 to seven years, but the overriding priority is years, but the overriding priority is years, but the overriding priority is securing the future of civil securing the future of civil securing the future of civil civilization. And the moon is faster. civilization. And the moon is faster. civilization. And the moon is faster. >> Yeah, very interesting. So, it's a 12 >> Yeah, very interesting. So, it's a 12 >> Yeah, very interesting. So, it's a 12 month trip to Mars, not 18. My month trip to Mars, not 18. My month trip to Mars, not 18. My apologies. Um, yes, that is that all apologies. Um, yes, that is that all apologies. Um, yes, that is that all makes sense to me. Um, so the Mars thing makes sense to me. Um, so the Mars thing makes sense to me. Um, so the Mars thing always felt a little more like I'm always felt a little more like I'm always felt a little more like I'm excited, like it's really gonna happen, excited, like it's really gonna happen, excited, like it's really gonna happen, but it always felt kind of far away. The but it always felt kind of far away. The but it always felt kind of far away. The moon feels like something I think he's moon feels like something I think he's moon feels like something I think he's talking about in 2027. talking about in 2027. talking about in 2027. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh, so that would be incredible because >> Uh, so that would be incredible because >> Uh, so that would be incredible because just landing somebody on the moon or just landing somebody on the moon or just landing somebody on the moon or just landing them on Mars is not the just landing them on Mars is not the just landing them on Mars is not the exciting thing I want to see. I want to exciting thing I want to see. I want to exciting thing I want to see. I want to see like the domes being built and like see like the domes being built and like see like the domes being built and like actual people living on the moon. actual people living on the moon. actual people living on the moon. >> That would be so wild. Like that really >> That would be so wild. Like that really >> That would be so wild. Like that really gets me excited. gets me excited. gets me excited. >> I I just I need to figure out the power >> I I just I need to figure out the power >> I I just I need to figure out the power dynamics like how we're connecting dynamics like how we're connecting dynamics like how we're connecting everything because I know it's dumb like everything because I know it's dumb like everything because I know it's dumb like we don't have outlets but like how are we don't have outlets but like how are we don't have outlets but like how are you going to have all these data centers you going to have all these data centers you going to have all these data centers connected to that to beam into a connected to that to beam into a connected to that to beam into a satellite like satellite like satellite like >> let me tell you. >> let me tell you. >> let me tell you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So you're in outer space which means >> So you're in outer space which means >> So you're in outer space which means there's no atmosphere stopping the sun there's no atmosphere stopping the sun there's no atmosphere stopping the sun from being captured. And so as solar from being captured. And so as solar from being captured. And so as solar cells get better and better you'll I cells get better and better you'll I cells get better and better you'll I mean you'll already be able to do mean you'll already be able to do mean you'll already be able to do everything you need to do just from everything you need to do just from everything you need to do just from sunlight. But what people I don't think sunlight. But what people I don't think sunlight. But what people I don't think understand is um in our galaxy the sun understand is um in our galaxy the sun understand is um in our galaxy the sun is like 99.99% is like 99.99% is like 99.99% of all the energy. So you could of all the energy. So you could of all the energy. So you could literally burn every fossil fuel ever. literally burn every fossil fuel ever. literally burn every fossil fuel ever. It's a rounding like it's a rounding It's a rounding like it's a rounding It's a rounding like it's a rounding error on the rounding error on the error on the rounding error on the error on the rounding error on the rounding error of the amount of energy rounding error of the amount of energy rounding error of the amount of energy that's being kicked off by the sun. So that's being kicked off by the sun. So that's being kicked off by the sun. So we're confusing a current difficult time we're confusing a current difficult time we're confusing a current difficult time with harnessing that energy with the with harnessing that energy with the with harnessing that energy with the energy not being present. So even energy not being present. So even energy not being present. So even nuclear, we're like, why are we thinking nuclear, we're like, why are we thinking nuclear, we're like, why are we thinking about solar? That's so dumb. We should about solar? That's so dumb. We should about solar? That's so dumb. We should be thinking about nuclear. Nuclear again be thinking about nuclear. Nuclear again be thinking about nuclear. Nuclear again is a rounding error and a rounding error is a rounding error and a rounding error is a rounding error and a rounding error and a rounding error of what you can get and a rounding error of what you can get and a rounding error of what you can get if you just harness the amount of energy if you just harness the amount of energy if you just harness the amount of energy that's already coming from the sun. And that's already coming from the sun. And that's already coming from the sun. And so being outside of our atmosphere so being outside of our atmosphere so being outside of our atmosphere already allows you to capture a lot already allows you to capture a lot already allows you to capture a lot more. Now it's a 24-hour cycle. There's more. Now it's a 24-hour cycle. There's more. Now it's a 24-hour cycle. There's not only does weather not matter, but not only does weather not matter, but not only does weather not matter, but you know, positioning in terms of the you know, positioning in terms of the you know, positioning in terms of the Earth being at night and being faced Earth being at night and being faced Earth being at night and being faced away from the sun doesn't matter. So you away from the sun doesn't matter. So you away from the sun doesn't matter. So you can just capture it around the clock. can just capture it around the clock. can just capture it around the clock. And then um the amount of energy being And then um the amount of energy being And then um the amount of energy being captured by uh solar is going up. It's captured by uh solar is going up. It's captured by uh solar is going up. It's not like a vertical line, but it's going not like a vertical line, but it's going not like a vertical line, but it's going up up up up. Like if you look at China, up up up up. Like if you look at China, up up up up. Like if you look at China, it's crazy. So um if Elon is right, and it's crazy. So um if Elon is right, and it's crazy. So um if Elon is right, and I don't see any reason why he isn't, I don't see any reason why he isn't, I don't see any reason why he isn't, >> if the sun is like the whole game, then >> if the sun is like the whole game, then >> if the sun is like the whole game, then yeah, get outside of the atmosphere, yeah, get outside of the atmosphere, yeah, get outside of the atmosphere, capture from the sun, and you can have capture from the sun, and you can have capture from the sun, and you can have all the outlets you want uh effectively all the outlets you want uh effectively all the outlets you want uh effectively for free. for free. for free. >> Gotcha. Um, and then this is reminding >> Gotcha. Um, and then this is reminding >> Gotcha. Um, and then this is reminding me of that movie Allesium with Matt me of that movie Allesium with Matt me of that movie Allesium with Matt Damon. Yeah. Where they kind of built Damon. Yeah. Where they kind of built Damon. Yeah. Where they kind of built like this whole like space colony and like this whole like space colony and like this whole like space colony and stuff like that. stuff like that. stuff like that. >> Is that a viable future for >> Is that a viable future for >> Is that a viable future for civilization? I'm not even going to say civilization? I'm not even going to say civilization? I'm not even going to say for America, for America, for America, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But do you think that that's something >> But do you think that that's something >> But do you think that that's something that we should strive for? Um, that we should strive for? Um, that we should strive for? Um, >> should strive for is uh I think that >> should strive for is uh I think that >> should strive for is uh I think that being multilanetary is wise given that being multilanetary is wise given that being multilanetary is wise given that we are prone to self-destruction. we are prone to self-destruction. we are prone to self-destruction. Um, the thing that always makes me Um, the thing that always makes me Um, the thing that always makes me hesitate is I don't know I don't know hesitate is I don't know I don't know hesitate is I don't know I don't know enough of the engineering to know if enough of the engineering to know if enough of the engineering to know if we're better off on the surface of a we're better off on the surface of a we're better off on the surface of a moon or Mars or if we're better off moon or Mars or if we're better off moon or Mars or if we're better off building like these big I think there's building like these big I think there's building like these big I think there's a name for them but like these big a name for them but like these big a name for them but like these big floating um space shuttles space station floating um space shuttles space station floating um space shuttles space station type thing. type thing. type thing. >> Yeah. I don't just from an engineering >> Yeah. I don't just from an engineering >> Yeah. I don't just from an engineering perspective I don't know what's more perspective I don't know what's more perspective I don't know what's more viable. viable. viable. >> Um so I'd have to do some research on >> Um so I'd have to do some research on >> Um so I'd have to do some research on that but getting off of just planet that but getting off of just planet that but getting off of just planet Earth. Yes. Gotcha. Um, this is going to Earth. Yes. Gotcha. Um, this is going to Earth. Yes. Gotcha. Um, this is going to be it's it's I'm curious to see how this be it's it's I'm curious to see how this be it's it's I'm curious to see how this all plays out because all plays out because all plays out because >> there is going to be that >> there is going to be that >> there is going to be that I don't want to say crash test done, but I don't want to say crash test done, but I don't want to say crash test done, but like there is going to be that like there is going to be that like there is going to be that experimentation. There's experimentation. There's experimentation. There's >> people are going to die. >> people are going to die. >> people are going to die. >> Yes, >> Yes, >> Yes, >> that's like a super easy way to put it. >> that's like a super easy way to put it. >> that's like a super easy way to put it. And how many That's why uh this is And how many That's why uh this is And how many That's why uh this is beware of corporations as as much as beware of corporations as as much as beware of corporations as as much as you're wary of the government. But I you're wary of the government. But I you're wary of the government. But I would rather see this in the hands of a would rather see this in the hands of a would rather see this in the hands of a corporation that I know if there's corporation that I know if there's corporation that I know if there's actually an advantage, they're going to actually an advantage, they're going to actually an advantage, they're going to press it press it press it >> and so they'll keep doing it. Um, now as >> and so they'll keep doing it. Um, now as >> and so they'll keep doing it. Um, now as long as they're open and transparent long as they're open and transparent long as they're open and transparent about the risks and all that, it just about the risks and all that, it just about the risks and all that, it just makes me think of Shackleton. So for makes me think of Shackleton. So for makes me think of Shackleton. So for people that don't know, uh, Ernest people that don't know, uh, Ernest people that don't know, uh, Ernest Shackleton wanted to be the first to I Shackleton wanted to be the first to I Shackleton wanted to be the first to I don't remember if it was like cross the don't remember if it was like cross the don't remember if it was like cross the Antarctic or what circumnavigate it Antarctic or what circumnavigate it Antarctic or what circumnavigate it whatever he was going to the Antarctic whatever he was going to the Antarctic whatever he was going to the Antarctic and or the Arctic, one of the two. I and or the Arctic, one of the two. I and or the Arctic, one of the two. I don't know if it's north or south. And don't know if it's north or south. And don't know if it's north or south. And he put out this ad that was like, um, he put out this ad that was like, um, he put out this ad that was like, um, hey, extremely dangerous mission for hey, extremely dangerous mission for hey, extremely dangerous mission for like tough ass men. In fact, can pull it like tough ass men. In fact, can pull it like tough ass men. In fact, can pull it up. Put Shackleton newspaper up. Put Shackleton newspaper up. Put Shackleton newspaper uh request for men. Um, yep. Here we go. uh request for men. Um, yep. Here we go. uh request for men. Um, yep. Here we go. Zoom in. Let me read this bad boy. This Zoom in. Let me read this bad boy. This Zoom in. Let me read this bad boy. This This is extraordinary. Okay, so it says This is extraordinary. Okay, so it says This is extraordinary. Okay, so it says men wanted for hazardous journey, small men wanted for hazardous journey, small men wanted for hazardous journey, small wages, bitter cold, long months of wages, bitter cold, long months of wages, bitter cold, long months of complete darkness, constant danger, safe complete darkness, constant danger, safe complete darkness, constant danger, safe return, doubtful, honor and recognition return, doubtful, honor and recognition return, doubtful, honor and recognition in event [laughter] in event [laughter] in event [laughter] uh in event of success. Okay, that's a uh in event of success. Okay, that's a uh in event of success. Okay, that's a real ad that actually got people to do real ad that actually got people to do real ad that actually got people to do it. And it's like, I get it. Some people it. And it's like, I get it. Some people it. And it's like, I get it. Some people are going to say, "That's crazy, Tom. are going to say, "That's crazy, Tom. are going to say, "That's crazy, Tom. [ __ ] you." Like, we don't want that. I [ __ ] you." Like, we don't want that. I [ __ ] you." Like, we don't want that. I want this. I want more energy like this. want this. I want more energy like this. want this. I want more energy like this. Where do people go that would respond to Where do people go that would respond to Where do people go that would respond to some [ __ ] like this? Like I want these some [ __ ] like this? Like I want these some [ __ ] like this? Like I want these like hard ass guys that are like, "Yeah, like hard ass guys that are like, "Yeah, like hard ass guys that are like, "Yeah, I want to go to the moon. [ __ ] yeah." I want to go to the moon. [ __ ] yeah." I want to go to the moon. [ __ ] yeah." And do I get that we might die on the And do I get that we might die on the And do I get that we might die on the moon? Yes, 100%. But this dude, if we moon? Yes, 100%. But this dude, if we moon? Yes, 100%. But this dude, if we pull this off, like we are going to be pull this off, like we are going to be pull this off, like we are going to be remembered forever. I love that [ __ ] remembered forever. I love that [ __ ] remembered forever. I love that [ __ ] That adventurous spirit, the men who had That adventurous spirit, the men who had That adventurous spirit, the men who had set sail on the ocean, not knowing, set sail on the ocean, not knowing, set sail on the ocean, not knowing, dude, they didn't know if they were just dude, they didn't know if they were just dude, they didn't know if they were just going to fall off the edge or if they going to fall off the edge or if they going to fall off the edge or if they were going to get eaten by sea demons. were going to get eaten by sea demons. were going to get eaten by sea demons. and they still did it. Like there's and they still did it. Like there's and they still did it. Like there's something in the human spirit like that something in the human spirit like that something in the human spirit like that that I find so like motivational. that I find so like motivational. that I find so like motivational. >> Jenz is not biting for this. They're >> Jenz is not biting for this. They're >> Jenz is not biting for this. They're like hazardous journey small wages. Nah, like hazardous journey small wages. Nah, like hazardous journey small wages. Nah, >> I know. I'm with you. >> I know. I'm with you. >> I know. I'm with you. >> No cell phone service. >> No cell phone service. >> No cell phone service. >> Here's the thing. Read it. The the book >> Here's the thing. Read it. The the book >> Here's the thing. Read it. The the book [laughter] is called Endurance, I [laughter] is called Endurance, I [laughter] is called Endurance, I believe. And uh it is so good when you believe. And uh it is so good when you believe. And uh it is so good when you read How Long These Guys Were Trapped. read How Long These Guys Were Trapped. read How Long These Guys Were Trapped. Spoiler alert for anybody who plans to Spoiler alert for anybody who plans to Spoiler alert for anybody who plans to read it. So Shackleton read it. So Shackleton read it. So Shackleton >> gets every one of these [ __ ] >> gets every one of these [ __ ] >> gets every one of these [ __ ] back alive. back alive. back alive. >> Nice, >> Nice, >> Nice, >> dude. There I think it was two years. >> dude. There I think it was two years. >> dude. There I think it was two years. Two years trapped on the ice. Two years trapped on the ice. Two years trapped on the ice. >> Imagine that. Two years. And he had to >> Imagine that. Two years. And he had to >> Imagine that. Two years. And he had to like find ways basically to keep them like find ways basically to keep them like find ways basically to keep them from killing each other and to keep him from killing each other and to keep him from killing each other and to keep him fed and eventually they like have to fed and eventually they like have to fed and eventually they like have to split up. So you've got to now leave the split up. So you've got to now leave the split up. So you've got to now leave the team behind to make sure they don't kill team behind to make sure they don't kill team behind to make sure they don't kill each other. And of course you always each other. And of course you always each other. And of course you always have some [ __ ] right? So, there was have some [ __ ] right? So, there was have some [ __ ] right? So, there was this guy in the group everybody [ __ ] this guy in the group everybody [ __ ] this guy in the group everybody [ __ ] hated. And so, it's like, how do you get hated. And so, it's like, how do you get hated. And so, it's like, how do you get them all back safely? It is this them all back safely? It is this them all back safely? It is this incredible tale of leadership and incredible tale of leadership and incredible tale of leadership and endurance and people just like gutting endurance and people just like gutting endurance and people just like gutting it out. Oh my god, it's such a good it out. Oh my god, it's such a good it out. Oh my god, it's such a good story, man. It is such a good story. story, man. It is such a good story. story, man. It is such a good story. People need to read it. And it is People need to read it. And it is People need to read it. And it is nonfiction. This actually happened. It's nonfiction. This actually happened. It's nonfiction. This actually happened. It's wild. wild. wild. >> Somebody said, "Would you rather do the >> Somebody said, "Would you rather do the >> Somebody said, "Would you rather do the Shackleton experiment or go die in Shackleton experiment or go die in Shackleton experiment or go die in Flanders?" which were the two choices Flanders?" which were the two choices Flanders?" which were the two choices back there. And Fainus 2 is like a World back there. And Fainus 2 is like a World back there. And Fainus 2 is like a World War I poem. War I poem. War I poem. >> A Yeah. I mean, what would I rather do? >> A Yeah. I mean, what would I rather do? >> A Yeah. I mean, what would I rather do? I'd probably rather do Shackleton Sang, I'd probably rather do Shackleton Sang, I'd probably rather do Shackleton Sang, but but but >> they were both rough. Rough. Now, >> they were both rough. Rough. Now, >> they were both rough. Rough. Now, watching your friends get their heads watching your friends get their heads watching your friends get their heads blown off. That one probably leaves a blown off. That one probably leaves a blown off. That one probably leaves a bit more trauma, but I just can't bit more trauma, but I just can't bit more trauma, but I just can't imagine the desolation you would feel imagine the desolation you would feel imagine the desolation you would feel never knowing if you're going to make never knowing if you're going to make never knowing if you're going to make it. a level of cold none of us it. a level of cold none of us it. a level of cold none of us understand. Yeah. understand. Yeah. understand. Yeah. >> That if you got wet, it was basically >> That if you got wet, it was basically >> That if you got wet, it was basically you were going to die. Yeah. Because you were going to die. Yeah. Because you were going to die. Yeah. Because there's there's no drying you off. Like there's there's no drying you off. Like there's there's no drying you off. Like they spent effectively two years like they spent effectively two years like they spent effectively two years like slightly damp. And so yeah, it Oh god, slightly damp. And so yeah, it Oh god, slightly damp. And so yeah, it Oh god, the book is so good. the book is so good. the book is so good. >> You gota you got to read it. That one >> You gota you got to read it. That one >> You gota you got to read it. That one will make you go, "Oh, I've never done will make you go, "Oh, I've never done will make you go, "Oh, I've never done anything hard in my life." Got it. anything hard in my life." Got it. anything hard in my life." Got it. [laughter] Got it. Heard. [laughter] Got it. Heard. [laughter] Got it. Heard. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Grappy. Uh all right. I know we got a >> Grappy. Uh all right. I know we got a >> Grappy. Uh all right. I know we got a couple super chats lingering. couple super chats lingering. couple super chats lingering. >> Let's do it. Uh, first from DP5431, >> Let's do it. Uh, first from DP5431, >> Let's do it. Uh, first from DP5431, >> Attack on Titan is the greatest anime. >> Attack on Titan is the greatest anime. >> Attack on Titan is the greatest anime. >> Attack on Titan is so good. It's not the >> Attack on Titan is so good. It's not the >> Attack on Titan is so good. It's not the greatest anime, but it shows the horrors greatest anime, but it shows the horrors greatest anime, but it shows the horrors of war in a way that is breathtaking. of war in a way that is breathtaking. of war in a way that is breathtaking. I'm talking you've watched um I'm talking you've watched um I'm talking you've watched um uh Saving Private Ryan. You know the uh Saving Private Ryan. You know the uh Saving Private Ryan. You know the genre and you're like, "Yo, there's some genre and you're like, "Yo, there's some genre and you're like, "Yo, there's some classics. Tom doesn't know what he's classics. Tom doesn't know what he's classics. Tom doesn't know what he's talking about." And then you watch a talking about." And then you watch a talking about." And then you watch a cartoon and you'll be like, "Oh, damn." cartoon and you'll be like, "Oh, damn." cartoon and you'll be like, "Oh, damn." As far as the horrors of war, losing As far as the horrors of war, losing As far as the horrors of war, losing people you love, facing, being injured, people you love, facing, being injured, people you love, facing, being injured, like all of it in in in a cartoon about like all of it in in in a cartoon about like all of it in in in a cartoon about giant monsters. It's unbelievable. giant monsters. It's unbelievable. giant monsters. It's unbelievable. >> Did you watch Game of Thrones? >> Did you watch Game of Thrones? >> Did you watch Game of Thrones? >> Yeah. Like season one, episode one, two >> Yeah. Like season one, episode one, two >> Yeah. Like season one, episode one, two of Game of Thrones, Attack on Titan, I of Game of Thrones, Attack on Titan, I of Game of Thrones, Attack on Titan, I both was like audibly like, "Oh, I love both was like audibly like, "Oh, I love both was like audibly like, "Oh, I love that person and they're dead now." Like, that person and they're dead now." Like, that person and they're dead now." Like, "Okay, I like this person, But Attack on "Okay, I like this person, But Attack on "Okay, I like this person, But Attack on Titan was like, "Okay, that was the Titan was like, "Okay, that was the Titan was like, "Okay, that was the first 20 minutes." And then the next 20 first 20 minutes." And then the next 20 first 20 minutes." And then the next 20 minutes, somebody else dies. And then minutes, somebody else dies. And then minutes, somebody else dies. And then I'm like, "Okay, we got we landed on the I'm like, "Okay, we got we landed on the I'm like, "Okay, we got we landed on the character we like." Now episode two, character we like." Now episode two, character we like." Now episode two, that person dies. And I'm just like, I that person dies. And I'm just like, I that person dies. And I'm just like, I don't know. Everybody's dying like this. don't know. Everybody's dying like this. don't know. Everybody's dying like this. Like you couldn't even attach to Like you couldn't even attach to Like you couldn't even attach to somebody because it was just so somebody because it was just so somebody because it was just so >> chaotic. Like good. It's so It really is >> chaotic. Like good. It's so It really is >> chaotic. Like good. It's so It really is good. good. good. >> And the rest of this one says, "Thoughts >> And the rest of this one says, "Thoughts >> And the rest of this one says, "Thoughts on privacy cryptocurrencies like Zcash on privacy cryptocurrencies like Zcash on privacy cryptocurrencies like Zcash being what is ultimately required to being what is ultimately required to being what is ultimately required to flip the system? Trump admin is okay flip the system? Trump admin is okay flip the system? Trump admin is okay with trackable crypto but still goes with trackable crypto but still goes with trackable crypto but still goes after privacy crypto devs?" I don't know after privacy crypto devs?" I don't know after privacy crypto devs?" I don't know enough about Zcash. I'll have to dig enough about Zcash. I'll have to dig enough about Zcash. I'll have to dig into that before I can meaningfully into that before I can meaningfully into that before I can meaningfully answer. answer. answer. Um, Um, Um, >> I thought, >> I thought, >> I thought, >> yeah, that is the the privacy debate is >> yeah, that is the the privacy debate is >> yeah, that is the the privacy debate is a good one. People that think that a good one. People that think that a good one. People that think that Bitcoin is private are crazy. Uh, you Bitcoin is private are crazy. Uh, you Bitcoin is private are crazy. Uh, you can track every Satoshi that's ever been can track every Satoshi that's ever been can track every Satoshi that's ever been moved, ever know right where it's at. moved, ever know right where it's at. moved, ever know right where it's at. Now, you don't know who owns the wallet. Now, you don't know who owns the wallet. Now, you don't know who owns the wallet. Fair enough. But you can watch the money Fair enough. But you can watch the money Fair enough. But you can watch the money move. So once you figure out who the move. So once you figure out who the move. So once you figure out who the wallet belongs to, everything's clear. wallet belongs to, everything's clear. wallet belongs to, everything's clear. >> Next up from Marushia Dark, since you >> Next up from Marushia Dark, since you >> Next up from Marushia Dark, since you mentioned Minecraft, have you seen the mentioned Minecraft, have you seen the mentioned Minecraft, have you seen the backlash to their good trouble DLC? It's backlash to their good trouble DLC? It's backlash to their good trouble DLC? It's wild. Also, have you looked into wild. Also, have you looked into wild. Also, have you looked into Hightail? It's like Minecraft 2.0. Also, Hightail? It's like Minecraft 2.0. Also, Hightail? It's like Minecraft 2.0. Also, have you seen 4D in Minecraft? Uh, uses have you seen 4D in Minecraft? Uh, uses have you seen 4D in Minecraft? Uh, uses hyperspace engineering. hyperspace engineering. hyperspace engineering. >> I haven't heard of 4D in Minecraft. >> I haven't heard of 4D in Minecraft. >> I haven't heard of 4D in Minecraft. That's interesting. I'm not even sure That's interesting. I'm not even sure That's interesting. I'm not even sure what that would look like. Uh, so I'll what that would look like. Uh, so I'll what that would look like. Uh, so I'll need to look that up. Um, the I've need to look that up. Um, the I've need to look that up. Um, the I've played Hightail. Hightail is fantastic. played Hightail. Hightail is fantastic. played Hightail. Hightail is fantastic. There are things that they do that I There are things that they do that I There are things that they do that I think will always make it a shadow of think will always make it a shadow of think will always make it a shadow of Minecraft. So, I'll be interested to see Minecraft. So, I'll be interested to see Minecraft. So, I'll be interested to see what happens to the player base and if what happens to the player base and if what happens to the player base and if that is like I grew up on Minecraft and that is like I grew up on Minecraft and that is like I grew up on Minecraft and now I want something that's more now I want something that's more now I want something that's more structured. That's possible. Um, we'll structured. That's possible. Um, we'll structured. That's possible. Um, we'll see. But no, I didn't see the backlash. see. But no, I didn't see the backlash. see. But no, I didn't see the backlash. Though the recent updates to Minecraft, Though the recent updates to Minecraft, Though the recent updates to Minecraft, at least that I saw as a one individual at least that I saw as a one individual at least that I saw as a one individual player were pretty great. So, um, don't player were pretty great. So, um, don't player were pretty great. So, um, don't know. Have to look into it. know. Have to look into it. know. Have to look into it. >> Last one. Uh, we have a guest coming on >> Last one. Uh, we have a guest coming on >> Last one. Uh, we have a guest coming on Wednesday, do we not? Wednesday, do we not? Wednesday, do we not? >> Uh, a guest that we've already filmed. >> Uh, a guest that we've already filmed. >> Uh, a guest that we've already filmed. >> Oh, on the show. >> Oh, on the show. >> Oh, on the show. >> Yeah. On the live. >> Yeah. On the live. >> Yeah. On the live. >> She texted me to say, "Hey, we should >> She texted me to say, "Hey, we should >> She texted me to say, "Hey, we should promote that." So, this is me doing. promote that." So, this is me doing. promote that." So, this is me doing. >> Who's coming? >> Who's coming? >> Who's coming? >> Your wife. >> Your wife. >> Your wife. >> Oh. Oh, [laughter] >> Oh. Oh, [laughter] >> Oh. Oh, [laughter] that's right. that's right. that's right. >> Oh, that's awesome. Okay. So, uh, here's >> Oh, that's awesome. Okay. So, uh, here's >> Oh, that's awesome. Okay. So, uh, here's what happened. So, Lisa and I did a, uh, what happened. So, Lisa and I did a, uh, what happened. So, Lisa and I did a, uh, she interviewed me for her show. I think she interviewed me for her show. I think she interviewed me for her show. I think it is Channel Suicide. I don't know what it is Channel Suicide. I don't know what it is Channel Suicide. I don't know what she was thinking. she was thinking. she was thinking. >> I I was surprised y'all went through >> I I was surprised y'all went through >> I I was surprised y'all went through that. that. that. >> People are going to lose their minds. >> People are going to lose their minds. >> People are going to lose their minds. Here's my wife off camera. So, uh it's Here's my wife off camera. So, uh it's Here's my wife off camera. So, uh it's basically how could you be married to basically how could you be married to basically how could you be married to somebody who voted for Trump? Her somebody who voted for Trump? Her somebody who voted for Trump? Her audience is going to hate me. So, if you audience is going to hate me. So, if you audience is going to hate me. So, if you guys want to see uh what that looks guys want to see uh what that looks guys want to see uh what that looks like, make sure you check out that like, make sure you check out that like, make sure you check out that episode. It was dope. She was like episode. It was dope. She was like episode. It was dope. She was like really sweating me. Uh it was fun. I really sweating me. Uh it was fun. I really sweating me. Uh it was fun. I really enjoyed it. But I really think uh really enjoyed it. But I really think uh really enjoyed it. But I really think uh her channel is going to her channel is going to her channel is going to >> have a problem. I think I think they're >> have a problem. I think I think they're >> have a problem. I think I think they're gonna trip out. She's anxious about it gonna trip out. She's anxious about it gonna trip out. She's anxious about it as well. Uh as well. Uh as well. Uh >> channel suicide. I'm like in the hot >> channel suicide. I'm like in the hot >> channel suicide. I'm like in the hot sweats. sweats. sweats. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be bold, >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be bold, >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to be bold, boys and girls. You have to be bold. So boys and girls. You have to be bold. So boys and girls. You have to be bold. So it it was really good. And Wednesday, it it was really good. And Wednesday, it it was really good. And Wednesday, we're going to dive into it. We'll talk we're going to dive into it. We'll talk we're going to dive into it. We'll talk about some of the specifics without about some of the specifics without about some of the specifics without giving no more spoilers. Um but just I giving no more spoilers. Um but just I giving no more spoilers. Um but just I was working in the office. I had like was working in the office. I had like was working in the office. I had like one earphone on just so I can kind of one earphone on just so I can kind of one earphone on just so I can kind of know my surroundings. I was surprised know my surroundings. I was surprised know my surroundings. I was surprised that you guys went where you went with that you guys went where you went with that you guys went where you went with it. I was like, "Oh, oh, [laughter] it. I was like, "Oh, oh, [laughter] it. I was like, "Oh, oh, [laughter] okay." Like, so I appreciate you guys okay." Like, so I appreciate you guys okay." Like, so I appreciate you guys are like 100%. It's it's spicy. So, are like 100%. It's it's spicy. So, are like 100%. It's it's spicy. So, we'll talk about it more on Wednesday. we'll talk about it more on Wednesday. we'll talk about it more on Wednesday. Lisa is going to pop in. Um, and you if Lisa is going to pop in. Um, and you if Lisa is going to pop in. Um, and you if you guys want, we'll we'll give her some you guys want, we'll we'll give her some you guys want, we'll we'll give her some hot seat questions and return to f. So, hot seat questions and return to f. So, hot seat questions and return to f. So, yeah, we'll have a little bit of Q&A in yeah, we'll have a little bit of Q&A in yeah, we'll have a little bit of Q&A in the chat. It'll be fun on Wednesday. So, the chat. It'll be fun on Wednesday. So, the chat. It'll be fun on Wednesday. So, you know, we'll get her [clears throat] you know, we'll get her [clears throat] you know, we'll get her [clears throat] we'll get her back. And somebody's we'll get her back. And somebody's we'll get her back. And somebody's asking her channel's called Women of asking her channel's called Women of asking her channel's called Women of Impact. Impact. Impact. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um, definitely check it out. >> Um, definitely check it out. >> Um, definitely check it out. >> Women of Impact. Uh, although your >> Women of Impact. Uh, although your >> Women of Impact. Uh, although your channel's Lisa Bill. channel's Lisa Bill. channel's Lisa Bill. >> Oh, the channel. >> Oh, the channel. >> Oh, the channel. >> Yeah. Yeah. Lisa show is women of >> Yeah. Yeah. Lisa show is women of >> Yeah. Yeah. Lisa show is women of >> show is called women back. >> show is called women back. >> show is called women back. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Be sure to check it out. Lisa Billy is >> Be sure to check it out. Lisa Billy is >> Be sure to check it out. Lisa Billy is actually funny says truth Devon. She is actually funny says truth Devon. She is actually funny says truth Devon. She is funny. My wife is a lot of fun funny. My wife is a lot of fun funny. My wife is a lot of fun >> in real life even more than you are on >> in real life even more than you are on >> in real life even more than you are on camera. camera. camera. >> Um cool. Um I left this for the very >> Um cool. Um I left this for the very >> Um cool. Um I left this for the very very very very end. Um I know you're not very very very end. Um I know you're not very very very end. Um I know you're not a big sports person. Did you have any a big sports person. Did you have any a big sports person. Did you have any comment on comment on comment on >> So I watch Oh yes. So the Seahawks won. >> So I watch Oh yes. So the Seahawks won. >> So I watch Oh yes. So the Seahawks won. So my family was very happy. That's very So my family was very happy. That's very So my family was very happy. That's very exciting. M exciting. M exciting. M >> um I didn't watch it at all, but um I am >> um I didn't watch it at all, but um I am >> um I didn't watch it at all, but um I am excited that other people had fun. I was excited that other people had fun. I was excited that other people had fun. I was preparing for this episode right here preparing for this episode right here preparing for this episode right here instead of watching the show. Uh and the instead of watching the show. Uh and the instead of watching the show. Uh and the I saw a little bit of the Bad Bunny I saw a little bit of the Bad Bunny I saw a little bit of the Bad Bunny thing and I am aware of the sort of Bad thing and I am aware of the sort of Bad thing and I am aware of the sort of Bad Bunny v um Bunny v um Bunny v um >> Turning Point >> Turning Point >> Turning Point >> Turning Point USA halftime show. So, but >> Turning Point USA halftime show. So, but >> Turning Point USA halftime show. So, but I don't know what the general vibe of I don't know what the general vibe of I don't know what the general vibe of like what people are saying. I saw a like what people are saying. I saw a like what people are saying. I saw a little bit of the Bad Bunny thing. little bit of the Bad Bunny thing. little bit of the Bad Bunny thing. Obviously, all ice all the time. So, Obviously, all ice all the time. So, Obviously, all ice all the time. So, it's in terms of being controversial and it's in terms of being controversial and it's in terms of being controversial and getting attention. Great play. I'm getting attention. Great play. I'm getting attention. Great play. I'm curious to know how fans of the NFL curious to know how fans of the NFL curious to know how fans of the NFL responded. It doesn't feel like they're responded. It doesn't feel like they're responded. It doesn't feel like they're demo. So, I can't figure out if they demo. So, I can't figure out if they demo. So, I can't figure out if they just have the demographic information just have the demographic information just have the demographic information that I don't and so they know that they that I don't and so they know that they that I don't and so they know that they actually have a huge contingency of actually have a huge contingency of actually have a huge contingency of people that are really into that people that are really into that people that are really into that messaging and so they loved it or if messaging and so they loved it or if messaging and so they loved it or if they're trying to push in that they're trying to push in that they're trying to push in that direction. I that I don't know. That's a direction. I that I don't know. That's a direction. I that I don't know. That's a pure demographics question because pure demographics question because pure demographics question because they're going to pander to their they're going to pander to their they're going to pander to their audience. So, anybody who thinks that audience. So, anybody who thinks that audience. So, anybody who thinks that they ought not like they're either going they ought not like they're either going they ought not like they're either going to pander to the audience they want and to pander to the audience they want and to pander to the audience they want and that's how they're going to draw them in that's how they're going to draw them in that's how they're going to draw them in uh or they're going to pander to the uh or they're going to pander to the uh or they're going to pander to the audience that they have. These are not audience that they have. These are not audience that they have. These are not like people who have some strong stance. like people who have some strong stance. like people who have some strong stance. I promise you. I promise you. I promise you. >> Um an interesting thing that happened >> Um an interesting thing that happened >> Um an interesting thing that happened though was the Epstein survivors uh they though was the Epstein survivors uh they though was the Epstein survivors uh they released an ad during the Super Bowl released an ad during the Super Bowl released an ad during the Super Bowl calling for full transparency of the calling for full transparency of the calling for full transparency of the files. files. files. >> I saw this ad. >> I saw this ad. >> I saw this ad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> On November 9th, the Epstein Files >> On November 9th, the Epstein Files >> On November 9th, the Epstein Files Transparency Act was signed into law. Transparency Act was signed into law. Transparency Act was signed into law. [music] 3 million files still not have not been 3 million files still not have not been released. released. released. >> And they're showing real victims here. >> And they're showing real victims here. >> And they're showing real victims here. [music] [music] [music] >> After years of being kept apart, >> After years of being kept apart, >> After years of being kept apart, we're standing together. we're standing together. we're standing together. >> Standing. >> Standing. >> Standing. >> Standing together >> Standing together >> Standing together >> because this girl deserves the truth. >> because this girl deserves the truth. >> because this girl deserves the truth. >> Because she deserves [music] the truth. >> Because she deserves [music] the truth. >> Because she deserves [music] the truth. >> Because we all deserve the truth. what >> Because we all deserve the truth. what >> Because we all deserve the truth. what they look like back then they look like back then they look like back then >> so that you remember like these are >> so that you remember like these are >> so that you remember like these are young girls, man. young girls, man. young girls, man. >> Uh yeah, getting together is super >> Uh yeah, getting together is super >> Uh yeah, getting together is super smart. Um so we'll see. This is like smart. Um so we'll see. This is like smart. Um so we'll see. This is like when all the women started coming when all the women started coming when all the women started coming together for Cosby, I was like, "Bro, together for Cosby, I was like, "Bro, together for Cosby, I was like, "Bro, he's in trouble." Like when you see he's in trouble." Like when you see he's in trouble." Like when you see >> the like uh bleachers full and >> the like uh bleachers full and >> the like uh bleachers full and [laughter] they've got like, you know, [laughter] they've got like, you know, [laughter] they've got like, you know, however many 50 people or whatever. Uh however many 50 people or whatever. Uh however many 50 people or whatever. Uh that was jarring to see. You're like, that was jarring to see. You're like, that was jarring to see. You're like, "That's going to be tough." So, yeah. "That's going to be tough." So, yeah. "That's going to be tough." So, yeah. Very smart. Very smart. Very smart. Very smart. Very smart. Very smart. >> All right. Well, >> All right. Well, >> All right. Well, >> did you watch the whole thing? >> did you watch the whole thing? >> did you watch the whole thing? >> I did. I was locked in. Um, >> I did. I was locked in. Um, >> I did. I was locked in. Um, >> what did you think of the Bad Bunny >> what did you think of the Bad Bunny >> what did you think of the Bad Bunny thing? thing? thing? >> Uh, Bad Bunny thing was dope. I think >> Uh, Bad Bunny thing was dope. I think >> Uh, Bad Bunny thing was dope. I think that how he chronicled one like it was that how he chronicled one like it was that how he chronicled one like it was like a love letter to Puerto Rico, which like a love letter to Puerto Rico, which like a love letter to Puerto Rico, which I thought was just very specific. And I thought was just very specific. And I thought was just very specific. And how he chronicled all like the how he chronicled all like the how he chronicled all like the immigration jobs kind of like slide immigration jobs kind of like slide immigration jobs kind of like slide starting in a like a crop field to a starting in a like a crop field to a starting in a like a crop field to a taco stand to a bodega. um had Pedro taco stand to a bodega. um had Pedro taco stand to a bodega. um had Pedro Pascal and all these like Latinx and Pascal and all these like Latinx and Pascal and all these like Latinx and then when he shouted out all the Latin then when he shouted out all the Latin then when he shouted out all the Latin countries and then he said God bless countries and then he said God bless countries and then he said God bless America and named every country in America and named every country in America and named every country in America, Central America, South America America, Central America, South America America, Central America, South America and North America. So I kind of like the and North America. So I kind of like the and North America. So I kind of like the unifying aspect of it. unifying aspect of it. unifying aspect of it. >> What's the internet's response? >> What's the internet's response? >> What's the internet's response? >> Um numbers don't lie. 155 million >> Um numbers don't lie. 155 million >> Um numbers don't lie. 155 million watched it. 5 million watched Turning watched it. 5 million watched Turning watched it. 5 million watched Turning Point USA. Um people who love Turning Point USA. Um people who love Turning Point USA. Um people who love Turning Point loved it. People who love Bad Point loved it. People who love Bad Point loved it. People who love Bad Bunny loved it. Um I like two Bad Bunny Bunny loved it. Um I like two Bad Bunny Bunny loved it. Um I like two Bad Bunny songs. He played the two songs I like. songs. He played the two songs I like. songs. He played the two songs I like. So, hey, I was doing. So, that's it. So, hey, I was doing. So, that's it. So, hey, I was doing. So, that's it. >> Nice. Awesome. [laughter] Well, there it >> Nice. Awesome. [laughter] Well, there it >> Nice. Awesome. [laughter] Well, there it is, everybody. Let us know in the is, everybody. Let us know in the is, everybody. Let us know in the comments. I'm very curious to know what comments. I'm very curious to know what comments. I'm very curious to know what people thought. I would love to get a people thought. I would love to get a people thought. I would love to get a sense of what this audience thinks about sense of what this audience thinks about sense of what this audience thinks about that. Uh, yeah, that'll be very telling. that. Uh, yeah, that'll be very telling. that. Uh, yeah, that'll be very telling. So, we shall see. All right, everybody. So, we shall see. All right, everybody. So, we shall see. All right, everybody. Thank you for joining us and uh I cannot Thank you for joining us and uh I cannot Thank you for joining us and uh I cannot wait to see you again on Wednesday. wait to see you again on Wednesday. wait to see you again on Wednesday. Until then, my friends, be legendary. Until then, my friends, be legendary. Until then, my friends, be legendary. Take care. Peace.