This Food Item IS NOT As Healthy as You Think | Mind Pump 2811

If you have a fruit smoothie every If you have a fruit smoothie every morning for breakfast, it's probably morning for breakfast, it's probably morning for breakfast, it's probably going to make you fat. It's one of the going to make you fat. It's one of the going to make you fat. It's one of the worst things you can have. It's not a worst things you can have. It's not a worst things you can have. It's not a health food. We're going to talk about health food. We're going to talk about health food. We're going to talk about Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. >> Oh, that is a hot thing. Milkshake is >> Oh, that is a hot thing. Milkshake is >> Oh, that is a hot thing. Milkshake is >> I don't know if I agree with that. >> I don't know if I agree with that. >> I don't know if I agree with that. >> A fruit smoothie. >> A fruit smoothie. >> A fruit smoothie. >> Well, I mean, do I get to put protein >> Well, I mean, do I get to put protein >> Well, I mean, do I get to put protein powder in it? powder in it? powder in it? >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> See, here's the thing. I'll tell you why >> See, here's the thing. I'll tell you why >> See, here's the thing. I'll tell you why I'm bringing this up. I'm bringing this up. I'm bringing this up. >> Okay. I mean, that Jamba Juice for sure. >> Okay. I mean, that Jamba Juice for sure. >> Okay. I mean, that Jamba Juice for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I remember. Do you guys remember? Hey, I >> I remember. Do you guys remember? Hey, I >> I remember. Do you guys remember? Hey, I know we all had to go through this when know we all had to go through this when know we all had to go through this when it was new. Like I remember going and it was new. Like I remember going and it was new. Like I remember going and getting a peanut butter smoothie, a getting a peanut butter smoothie, a getting a peanut butter smoothie, a Jamba Juice almost every postworkout and Jamba Juice almost every postworkout and Jamba Juice almost every postworkout and then I remember when they actually then I remember when they actually then I remember when they actually started to put the the nutrition books started to put the the nutrition books started to put the the nutrition books in there and then read like in there and then read like in there and then read like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Of course it didn't stop me. >> Of course it didn't stop me. >> Of course it didn't stop me. >> Ice cream in it. Did you put ice cream >> Ice cream in it. Did you put ice cream >> Ice cream in it. Did you put ice cream in this? in this? in this? >> I didn't even know. >> I didn't even know. >> I didn't even know. >> Well, I'll tell you why so 180 grams of >> Well, I'll tell you why so 180 grams of >> Well, I'll tell you why so 180 grams of sugar in one shot. sugar in one shot. sugar in one shot. >> So here's why this came up. I was >> So here's why this came up. I was >> So here's why this came up. I was watching a show, watching a show, watching a show, >> okay? >> okay? >> okay? >> And the guy is in the morning. He's he's >> And the guy is in the morning. He's he's >> And the guy is in the morning. He's he's being depicted as like he's not a health being depicted as like he's not a health being depicted as like he's not a health and fitness guy, but he's he's obviously and fitness guy, but he's he's obviously and fitness guy, but he's he's obviously concerned about his health. He's a he's concerned about his health. He's a he's concerned about his health. He's a he's a health consscious person. a health consscious person. a health consscious person. >> And like a lot of people, he's has his >> And like a lot of people, he's has his >> And like a lot of people, he's has his breakfast in his hand and it's a cup, breakfast in his hand and it's a cup, breakfast in his hand and it's a cup, >> a clear cup, and it's a fruit smoothie. >> a clear cup, and it's a fruit smoothie. >> a clear cup, and it's a fruit smoothie. And a lot of people And a lot of people And a lot of people >> have been led to believe that this is >> have been led to believe that this is >> have been led to believe that this is like a wonderful health food. like a wonderful health food. like a wonderful health food. >> Now, I I want to be clear, fruit is not >> Now, I I want to be clear, fruit is not >> Now, I I want to be clear, fruit is not bad for you, but if you blend the hell bad for you, but if you blend the hell bad for you, but if you blend the hell out of it up and you add it all, first out of it up and you add it all, first out of it up and you add it all, first off, you can have way more fruit as a off, you can have way more fruit as a off, you can have way more fruit as a smoothie than you would ever eat. smoothie than you would ever eat. smoothie than you would ever eat. >> Yeah. Number two, when you blend it up, >> Yeah. Number two, when you blend it up, >> Yeah. Number two, when you blend it up, you've changed it. So now the glycemic you've changed it. So now the glycemic you've changed it. So now the glycemic index goes through the roof. So index goes through the roof. So index goes through the roof. So whatever, however slowly you digest it whatever, however slowly you digest it whatever, however slowly you digest it through eating it, you've blended it up through eating it, you've blended it up through eating it, you've blended it up and you've now made it essentially not and you've now made it essentially not and you've now made it essentially not the same. I know it's not like a a soda, the same. I know it's not like a a soda, the same. I know it's not like a a soda, but you've essentially made it a sugar but you've essentially made it a sugar but you've essentially made it a sugar bomb. Um, and it's typically very high bomb. Um, and it's typically very high bomb. Um, and it's typically very high calorie. Even if you add protein, you've calorie. Even if you add protein, you've calorie. Even if you add protein, you've got yourself this kind of really high got yourself this kind of really high got yourself this kind of really high calorie, low satiety producing calorie, low satiety producing calorie, low satiety producing >> um glycemic index bomb that you're going >> um glycemic index bomb that you're going >> um glycemic index bomb that you're going to have and you think it's a health food to have and you think it's a health food to have and you think it's a health food quick. Yeah. I mean, you're kind of quick. Yeah. I mean, you're kind of quick. Yeah. I mean, you're kind of bypassing that whole process your body bypassing that whole process your body bypassing that whole process your body has of like slowly digesting it and has of like slowly digesting it and has of like slowly digesting it and releasing it and timing wise so it just releasing it and timing wise so it just releasing it and timing wise so it just like immediately hits your bloodstream. like immediately hits your bloodstream. like immediately hits your bloodstream. >> Well, this juicers are really bad. There >> Well, this juicers are really bad. There >> Well, this juicers are really bad. There you go. Because if you the amount of you go. Because if you the amount of you go. Because if you the amount of like the amount of apples and like that like the amount of apples and like that like the amount of apples and like that you need to like make a like a cup of you need to like make a like a cup of you need to like make a like a cup of juice or like whatever fruit you're juice or like whatever fruit you're juice or like whatever fruit you're using in there uh is a is a lot. So that using in there uh is a is a lot. So that using in there uh is a is a lot. So that really concentrate like a juicer. really concentrate like a juicer. really concentrate like a juicer. >> A blended smoothie though like uh if if >> A blended smoothie though like uh if if >> A blended smoothie though like uh if if it's predominantly like almond milk or it's predominantly like almond milk or it's predominantly like almond milk or water and then you know and then like a water and then you know and then like a water and then you know and then like a fruit a piece of fruit in there or like fruit a piece of fruit in there or like fruit a piece of fruit in there or like >> who does that? I mean like I mean I uh a >> who does that? I mean like I mean I uh a >> who does that? I mean like I mean I uh a spinach, blueberry, banana smooth spinach, blueberry, banana smooth spinach, blueberry, banana smooth protein smoothie would be a very common protein smoothie would be a very common protein smoothie would be a very common smoothie I would do. smoothie I would do. smoothie I would do. >> So uh but I mean to your point uh I >> So uh but I mean to your point uh I >> So uh but I mean to your point uh I think everybody should at least one time think everybody should at least one time think everybody should at least one time in their life weigh the bananas they eat in their life weigh the bananas they eat in their life weigh the bananas they eat because uh the what what is considered a because uh the what what is considered a because uh the what what is considered a large banana in like the nutrition guide large banana in like the nutrition guide large banana in like the nutrition guide books are not the large bananas you get books are not the large bananas you get books are not the large bananas you get at the grocery store. So just the way it at the grocery store. So just the way it at the grocery store. So just the way it hits you, you know, when you blend food hits you, you know, when you blend food hits you, you know, when you blend food up, uh you you change its, uh surface, up, uh you you change its, uh surface, up, uh you you change its, uh surface, um the surface of it to the total um the surface of it to the total um the surface of it to the total volume, making it very quickly volume, making it very quickly volume, making it very quickly absorbing. And so, uh you know, if I ate absorbing. And so, uh you know, if I ate absorbing. And so, uh you know, if I ate an apple, it has a different impact on an apple, it has a different impact on an apple, it has a different impact on me than if I blended an apple, uh and me than if I blended an apple, uh and me than if I blended an apple, uh and drank it, has a different impact on my drank it, has a different impact on my drank it, has a different impact on my blood sugar. Not to mention the amount blood sugar. Not to mention the amount blood sugar. Not to mention the amount of fruit that you can consume in a short of fruit that you can consume in a short of fruit that you can consume in a short period of time through a smoothie. But period of time through a smoothie. But period of time through a smoothie. But that's not the danger. Here's the real that's not the danger. Here's the real that's not the danger. Here's the real danger is is that people think it's a danger is is that people think it's a danger is is that people think it's a health food. Like this is a healthy far health food. Like this is a healthy far health food. Like this is a healthy far better option. better option. better option. >> Here's where I'll defend what you're >> Here's where I'll defend what you're >> Here's where I'll defend what you're saying, I think, is because I definitely saying, I think, is because I definitely saying, I think, is because I definitely think I actually think it's a great think I actually think it's a great think I actually think it's a great option for somebody who's trying to option for somebody who's trying to option for somebody who's trying to build or bulk build or bulk build or bulk >> like you're not you can't get enough >> like you're not you can't get enough >> like you're not you can't get enough calories. Sure. calories. Sure. calories. Sure. >> Because uh the other the other point uh >> Because uh the other the other point uh >> Because uh the other the other point uh to your argument is that you have that to your argument is that you have that to your argument is that you have that and now you digest it really quick and and now you digest it really quick and and now you digest it really quick and then you're hungry again in like an hour then you're hungry again in like an hour then you're hungry again in like an hour or two. That's why I think it's terrible or two. That's why I think it's terrible or two. That's why I think it's terrible for for for >> So yeah, exactly. So So to your your >> So yeah, exactly. So So to your your >> So yeah, exactly. So So to your your point that I can get behind that, like point that I can get behind that, like point that I can get behind that, like if you're if you're doing a smoothie for if you're if you're doing a smoothie for if you're if you're doing a smoothie for breakfast and your goal is weight loss, breakfast and your goal is weight loss, breakfast and your goal is weight loss, I do agree that's a bad strategy. I I do agree that's a bad strategy. I I do agree that's a bad strategy. I think uh if you were at maintenance and think uh if you were at maintenance and think uh if you were at maintenance and you're happy with where your weight is you're happy with where your weight is you're happy with where your weight is at and it it works for your lifestyle, at and it it works for your lifestyle, at and it it works for your lifestyle, totally fine. But if your goal was totally fine. But if your goal was totally fine. But if your goal was weight loss and so I guess maybe that's weight loss and so I guess maybe that's weight loss and so I guess maybe that's how I would have would have positioned I how I would have would have positioned I how I would have would have positioned I like how you positioned it though. But I like how you positioned it though. But I like how you positioned it though. But I I I would have said something like it's I I would have said something like it's I I would have said something like it's different. encouraging me to get different. encouraging me to get different. encouraging me to get people's attention out people's attention out people's attention out trying to approach. trying to approach. trying to approach. >> I do. I like it. I appreciate that. I >> I do. I like it. I appreciate that. I >> I do. I like it. I appreciate that. I say I I appreciate that cuz it made me say I I appreciate that cuz it made me say I I appreciate that cuz it made me think about it like, okay, well, I mean, think about it like, okay, well, I mean, think about it like, okay, well, I mean, I totally think I I do that all the I totally think I I do that all the I totally think I I do that all the time. And I've had clients, but you're time. And I've had clients, but you're time. And I've had clients, but you're right. I would never tell a weight loss right. I would never tell a weight loss right. I would never tell a weight loss client client client >> who's trying to lose body fat, you >> who's trying to lose body fat, you >> who's trying to lose body fat, you should blend a fruit smoothie up in the should blend a fruit smoothie up in the should blend a fruit smoothie up in the morning. morning. morning. >> There's better options is really >> There's better options is really >> There's better options is really >> there's way there's way better options. >> there's way there's way better options. >> there's way there's way better options. >> Way better options. And one of the >> Way better options. And one of the >> Way better options. And one of the travesties with our diet uh is this myth travesties with our diet uh is this myth travesties with our diet uh is this myth or this belief or this belief or this belief >> uh or these beliefs around breakfast in >> uh or these beliefs around breakfast in >> uh or these beliefs around breakfast in particular. So we've been convinced particular. So we've been convinced particular. So we've been convinced >> uh that we should have no time for >> uh that we should have no time for >> uh that we should have no time for breakfast. So it's always this rush. So breakfast. So it's always this rush. So breakfast. So it's always this rush. So that's number one. that's number one. that's number one. >> Muffins aren't cake. >> Muffins aren't cake. >> Muffins aren't cake. >> That's right. Number two, because of >> That's right. Number two, because of >> That's right. Number two, because of that breakfast foods or foods we would that breakfast foods or foods we would that breakfast foods or foods we would label as breakfast foods in the context label as breakfast foods in the context label as breakfast foods in the context of I need it to be quick are all of I need it to be quick are all of I need it to be quick are all terrible. started with breakfast terrible. started with breakfast terrible. started with breakfast cereals, then you got bagels and muffins cereals, then you got bagels and muffins cereals, then you got bagels and muffins and, you know, pastries. And then the and, you know, pastries. And then the and, you know, pastries. And then the health side is like, oh, here, this is health side is like, oh, here, this is health side is like, oh, here, this is healthy. Blend up a bunch of fruit. Uh, healthy. Blend up a bunch of fruit. Uh, healthy. Blend up a bunch of fruit. Uh, and if you add protein, it's fine. Well, and if you add protein, it's fine. Well, and if you add protein, it's fine. Well, no. If you're trying to lose body fat, no. If you're trying to lose body fat, no. If you're trying to lose body fat, first of all, it's going to produce very first of all, it's going to produce very first of all, it's going to produce very little satiety. little satiety. little satiety. >> It's great for bulking, not good for >> It's great for bulking, not good for >> It's great for bulking, not good for losing body fat. losing body fat. losing body fat. >> Be hungry. >> Be hungry. >> Be hungry. >> You're going to get many people, not >> You're going to get many people, not >> You're going to get many people, not everybody, but you could test this with everybody, but you could test this with everybody, but you could test this with a a a >> a uh, you know, blood sugar regulator. >> a uh, you know, blood sugar regulator. >> a uh, you know, blood sugar regulator. you're going to get a spike in blood you're going to get a spike in blood you're going to get a spike in blood sugar that you wouldn't normally get, sugar that you wouldn't normally get, sugar that you wouldn't normally get, especially if you ate the fruit and ate especially if you ate the fruit and ate especially if you ate the fruit and ate the protein uh from a whole food source. the protein uh from a whole food source. the protein uh from a whole food source. It would be very different. Why don't It would be very different. Why don't It would be very different. Why don't you want or why are we avoiding these you want or why are we avoiding these you want or why are we avoiding these these sharp rises in blood sugar? We can these sharp rises in blood sugar? We can these sharp rises in blood sugar? We can make the metabolic argument it's not make the metabolic argument it's not make the metabolic argument it's not good for your body, could cause insulin good for your body, could cause insulin good for your body, could cause insulin resistance, blah blah blah. I'm not even resistance, blah blah blah. I'm not even resistance, blah blah blah. I'm not even going there. Sharp rises and drops in going there. Sharp rises and drops in going there. Sharp rises and drops in blood sugar just they just tend to blood sugar just they just tend to blood sugar just they just tend to encourage not great behaviors. You tend encourage not great behaviors. You tend encourage not great behaviors. You tend to feel not so good later. appetite to feel not so good later. appetite to feel not so good later. appetite starts starts to spike. Um, it it starts starts to spike. Um, it it starts starts to spike. Um, it it doesn't it doesn't bode well for doesn't it doesn't bode well for doesn't it doesn't bode well for long-term behaviors around eating in a long-term behaviors around eating in a long-term behaviors around eating in a way that's appropriate, especially for way that's appropriate, especially for way that's appropriate, especially for fat loss. fat loss. fat loss. >> You know what? I'm I don't subscribe to >> You know what? I'm I don't subscribe to >> You know what? I'm I don't subscribe to this. There's not a lot of great options this. There's not a lot of great options this. There's not a lot of great options for breakfast, for high protein anymore. for breakfast, for high protein anymore. for breakfast, for high protein anymore. So, I'm traveling. I was traveling this So, I'm traveling. I was traveling this So, I'm traveling. I was traveling this last weekend, right? And uh I went and last weekend, right? And uh I went and last weekend, right? And uh I went and stayed at a cabin with my my cousin and stayed at a cabin with my my cousin and stayed at a cabin with my my cousin and was kind of at the mercy of whatever she was kind of at the mercy of whatever she was kind of at the mercy of whatever she she was the one cooking for the weekend. she was the one cooking for the weekend. she was the one cooking for the weekend. And so, okay, it is what it is. Now And so, okay, it is what it is. Now And so, okay, it is what it is. Now she's health conscious. So she you my she's health conscious. So she you my she's health conscious. So she you my cousin Stephanie who you right love her. cousin Stephanie who you right love her. cousin Stephanie who you right love her. >> So uh she made for dinner the first >> So uh she made for dinner the first >> So uh she made for dinner the first night that we were there these like night that we were there these like night that we were there these like healthy ground turkey enchilada dish you healthy ground turkey enchilada dish you healthy ground turkey enchilada dish you know so it was it still enchiladas but know so it was it still enchiladas but know so it was it still enchiladas but it's like a healthier version and stuff it's like a healthier version and stuff it's like a healthier version and stuff like that and made with ground turkey like that and made with ground turkey like that and made with ground turkey and this like lactoseree cheese and it and this like lactoseree cheese and it and this like lactoseree cheese and it was it was really it was really good. was it was really it was really good. was it was really it was really good. >> Um and then she made a hu there was tons >> Um and then she made a hu there was tons >> Um and then she made a hu there was tons of us so tons of bulk and so there was of us so tons of bulk and so there was of us so tons of bulk and so there was leftovers leftovers leftovers >> man. Four eggs cracked over that in the >> man. Four eggs cracked over that in the >> man. Four eggs cracked over that in the morning. So amazing. Yeah. morning. So amazing. Yeah. morning. So amazing. Yeah. >> I most d I'm trying to think the last >> I most d I'm trying to think the last >> I most d I'm trying to think the last time I had a dinner where it's like time I had a dinner where it's like time I had a dinner where it's like cracking a couple eggs over it in the cracking a couple eggs over it in the cracking a couple eggs over it in the morning time reheated is not amazing. I morning time reheated is not amazing. I morning time reheated is not amazing. I think it's so good. think it's so good. think it's so good. >> It is. I >> It is. I >> It is. I >> It's just not what someone would >> It's just not what someone would >> It's just not what someone would consider a like breakfast. consider a like breakfast. consider a like breakfast. >> It's Well, exactly. It's just we That's >> It's Well, exactly. It's just we That's >> It's Well, exactly. It's just we That's all marketing though. We've been all marketing though. We've been all marketing though. We've been marketed to so well that breakfast is marketed to so well that breakfast is marketed to so well that breakfast is this waffle pancake which is cake. Cake this waffle pancake which is cake. Cake this waffle pancake which is cake. Cake and cereal for breakfast is like what and cereal for breakfast is like what and cereal for breakfast is like what staples and then just eggs. And we know staples and then just eggs. And we know staples and then just eggs. And we know that one or two eggs is not a lot of that one or two eggs is not a lot of that one or two eggs is not a lot of protein, but it's like you you crack protein, but it's like you you crack protein, but it's like you you crack four eggs over the top of a dinner dish four eggs over the top of a dinner dish four eggs over the top of a dinner dish for the night before and you got a for the night before and you got a for the night before and you got a really high really good tasting and really high really good tasting and really high really good tasting and makes me feel like I'm eating breakfast. makes me feel like I'm eating breakfast. makes me feel like I'm eating breakfast. >> Even to add to that, eggs, right? We >> Even to add to that, eggs, right? We >> Even to add to that, eggs, right? We think of it as for breakfast. Why can't think of it as for breakfast. Why can't think of it as for breakfast. Why can't you eat eggs for dinner or for lunch? you eat eggs for dinner or for lunch? you eat eggs for dinner or for lunch? Like it's so funny how we put foods in Like it's so funny how we put foods in Like it's so funny how we put foods in these weird categories. And so then these weird categories. And so then these weird categories. And so then people are like, "Oh, you want me to eat people are like, "Oh, you want me to eat people are like, "Oh, you want me to eat like some chicken and some rice for like some chicken and some rice for like some chicken and some rice for breakfast? That's not breakfast. Why breakfast? That's not breakfast. Why breakfast? That's not breakfast. Why not? Why isn't it breakfast? Yeah, not? Why isn't it breakfast? Yeah, not? Why isn't it breakfast? Yeah, >> eat it in the morning. And so that's my >> eat it in the morning. And so that's my >> eat it in the morning. And so that's my point with this is that the fruit point with this is that the fruit point with this is that the fruit smoothie has been uh so strongly sold as smoothie has been uh so strongly sold as smoothie has been uh so strongly sold as this healthy option in the morning and this healthy option in the morning and this healthy option in the morning and most people who are doing it are not most people who are doing it are not most people who are doing it are not doing it for bulking. Most people who doing it for bulking. Most people who doing it for bulking. Most people who are doing it are like, "Okay, I want to are doing it are like, "Okay, I want to are doing it are like, "Okay, I want to lose weight. I want to get healthy." And lose weight. I want to get healthy." And lose weight. I want to get healthy." And it's not going to be a great option for it's not going to be a great option for it's not going to be a great option for you. It's not going to help. you. It's not going to help. you. It's not going to help. >> You know what, S? You're making me think >> You know what, S? You're making me think >> You know what, S? You're making me think now. Okay. So, how how much of that the now. Okay. So, how how much of that the now. Okay. So, how how much of that the fact that that is a a fruit smoothie for fact that that is a a fruit smoothie for fact that that is a a fruit smoothie for breakfast is more wild uh wildly exa or breakfast is more wild uh wildly exa or breakfast is more wild uh wildly exa or more popular than uh cracking a couple more popular than uh cracking a couple more popular than uh cracking a couple eggs over dinner is eggs over dinner is eggs over dinner is >> and I wonder if it's because so much of >> and I wonder if it's because so much of >> and I wonder if it's because so much of what has been sold to us pancakes, what has been sold to us pancakes, what has been sold to us pancakes, waffles, cereal, pop-tarts as like the waffles, cereal, pop-tarts as like the waffles, cereal, pop-tarts as like the breakfast or donuts, right? These are breakfast or donuts, right? These are breakfast or donuts, right? These are what people eat for so high sugar that what people eat for so high sugar that what people eat for so high sugar that seems more like and because of the high seems more like and because of the high seems more like and because of the high sugar in the fruit sugar in the fruit sugar in the fruit >> cuz what is it that makes you go that >> cuz what is it that makes you go that >> cuz what is it that makes you go that that thing that you love for dinner you that thing that you love for dinner you that thing that you love for dinner you don't love for breakfast. don't love for breakfast. don't love for breakfast. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Think about that for a second. Because >> Think about that for a second. Because >> Think about that for a second. Because of the time of the day that that's of the time of the day that that's of the time of the day that that's that's all cravings and habit [ __ ] that that's all cravings and habit [ __ ] that that's all cravings and habit [ __ ] that has nothing to do even with what you has nothing to do even with what you has nothing to do even with what you like or not like cuz you liked it at 8 like or not like cuz you liked it at 8 like or not like cuz you liked it at 8 or 6 p.m. or 6 p.m. or 6 p.m. >> It's all marketing. It goes back to even >> It's all marketing. It goes back to even >> It's all marketing. It goes back to even the um the food pyramid, you know? It's the um the food pyramid, you know? It's the um the food pyramid, you know? It's like it it's in that category of like we like it it's in that category of like we like it it's in that category of like we got all the whole grains and balanced got all the whole grains and balanced got all the whole grains and balanced meal, you know, breakfast. It's all meal, you know, breakfast. It's all meal, you know, breakfast. It's all freaking carbs. It's like re recondition freaking carbs. It's like re recondition freaking carbs. It's like re recondition yourself to start eating the stuff that yourself to start eating the stuff that yourself to start eating the stuff that you already love for dinner. you already love for dinner. you already love for dinner. >> By the way, you know what this points to >> By the way, you know what this points to >> By the way, you know what this points to and this is a great um and this is a great um and this is a great um >> conversation is it points to the >> conversation is it points to the >> conversation is it points to the complexity around our relationship complexity around our relationship complexity around our relationship around food. We don't we're not even around food. We don't we're not even around food. We don't we're not even aware aware aware >> of half of these things. You know, if I >> of half of these things. You know, if I >> of half of these things. You know, if I if if I gave you a glass of orange juice if if I gave you a glass of orange juice if if I gave you a glass of orange juice with dinner, you'd be like, "Ew." with dinner, you'd be like, "Ew." with dinner, you'd be like, "Ew." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Breakfast. Oh yeah. Glass of orange >> Breakfast. Oh yeah. Glass of orange >> Breakfast. Oh yeah. Glass of orange juice works. juice works. juice works. >> I gave you turkey stuffing, you know, >> I gave you turkey stuffing, you know, >> I gave you turkey stuffing, you know, you're only eating it one day. you're only eating it one day. you're only eating it one day. >> That's right. A year. >> That's right. A year. >> That's right. A year. >> That's right. So, so, and this is a good >> That's right. So, so, and this is a good >> That's right. So, so, and this is a good thing to examine with yourself. Uh thing to examine with yourself. Uh thing to examine with yourself. Uh because it also goes further than that, because it also goes further than that, because it also goes further than that, right? There's foods that you tend to right? There's foods that you tend to right? There's foods that you tend to navigate towards uh when you're stressed navigate towards uh when you're stressed navigate towards uh when you're stressed out or when you're upset or when you're out or when you're upset or when you're out or when you're upset or when you're happy. Uh you know, a good example, by happy. Uh you know, a good example, by happy. Uh you know, a good example, by the way, I think pizza did a great job the way, I think pizza did a great job the way, I think pizza did a great job of marketing themselves as a breakfast of marketing themselves as a breakfast of marketing themselves as a breakfast food. It's just cold. food. It's just cold. food. It's just cold. >> Oh, yeah. People have cold slice of >> Oh, yeah. People have cold slice of >> Oh, yeah. People have cold slice of pizza in the morning because it was left pizza in the morning because it was left pizza in the morning because it was left over from the night before and that even over from the night before and that even over from the night before and that even became a thing. But it's a really good became a thing. But it's a really good became a thing. But it's a really good thing to examine with your diet because thing to examine with your diet because thing to examine with your diet because oftentimes with not this isn't the big oftentimes with not this isn't the big oftentimes with not this isn't the big thing that's holding you back, but it's thing that's holding you back, but it's thing that's holding you back, but it's part of it part of it part of it >> is like why can't I eat these foods at >> is like why can't I eat these foods at >> is like why can't I eat these foods at different times? What are my beliefs different times? What are my beliefs different times? What are my beliefs around food? What's my relationship like around food? What's my relationship like around food? What's my relationship like with certain meals to where when I think with certain meals to where when I think with certain meals to where when I think of breakfast because that's one of the of breakfast because that's one of the of breakfast because that's one of the most challenging meals for clients. most challenging meals for clients. most challenging meals for clients. Wouldn't you guys agree? Wouldn't you guys agree? Wouldn't you guys agree? >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> It's always breakfast, right? That's the >> It's always breakfast, right? That's the >> It's always breakfast, right? That's the most challenging one. And that and and most challenging one. And that and and most challenging one. And that and and the big challenge around it is exactly the big challenge around it is exactly the big challenge around it is exactly this. It's like what's a breakfast food? this. It's like what's a breakfast food? this. It's like what's a breakfast food? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And oh, and I don't have any time. >> And oh, and I don't have any time. >> And oh, and I don't have any time. >> Fit it in that category. >> Fit it in that category. >> Fit it in that category. >> My favorite one is I'm rushed in the >> My favorite one is I'm rushed in the >> My favorite one is I'm rushed in the morning. morning. morning. >> We also have a brand new maps bundle for >> We also have a brand new maps bundle for >> We also have a brand new maps bundle for the month. the month. the month. >> Maps Symmetry, Maps Prime, and the >> Maps Symmetry, Maps Prime, and the >> Maps Symmetry, Maps Prime, and the Advanced Training Techniques Guide. All Advanced Training Techniques Guide. All Advanced Training Techniques Guide. 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Enjoy the rest of the show. >> Uh, scrambling eggs takes a grand total >> Uh, scrambling eggs takes a grand total of 8 minutes of 8 minutes of 8 minutes >> if that. >> if that. >> if that. >> Maybe >> Maybe >> Maybe >> if that. >> if that. >> if that. >> But it's weird that we're like convinced >> But it's weird that we're like convinced >> But it's weird that we're like convinced that it's like, no, no, I got I have to that it's like, no, no, I got I have to that it's like, no, no, I got I have to eat while I'm running out. By the time eat while I'm running out. By the time eat while I'm running out. By the time this is what this is why it's said such this is what this is why it's said such this is what this is why it's said such BS that the the the thing the enchilada BS that the the the thing the enchilada BS that the the the thing the enchilada or the chicken and rice or the ground or the chicken and rice or the ground or the chicken and rice or the ground beef and rice whatever you had for beef and rice whatever you had for beef and rice whatever you had for dinner thing. By the time you and to dinner thing. By the time you and to dinner thing. By the time you and to make this easy too by the way I don't make this easy too by the way I don't make this easy too by the way I don't know if people do this or not but I make know if people do this or not but I make know if people do this or not but I make the big we make the big dinner and then the big we make the big dinner and then the big we make the big dinner and then I when I'm cleaning the kitchen I'm I when I'm cleaning the kitchen I'm I when I'm cleaning the kitchen I'm portioning it out in Tupperware. So portioning it out in Tupperware. So portioning it out in Tupperware. So fast. fast. fast. >> So it's already set. I literally throw >> So it's already set. I literally throw >> So it's already set. I literally throw it in my glass thing in the in the it in my glass thing in the in the it in my glass thing in the in the microwave. I hit 230. microwave. I hit 230. microwave. I hit 230. >> I crack the eggs over. By the time that >> I crack the eggs over. By the time that >> I crack the eggs over. By the time that thing is done microwaving, the eggs are thing is done microwaving, the eggs are thing is done microwaving, the eggs are ready to get thrown on top of that. It ready to get thrown on top of that. It ready to get thrown on top of that. It is not is not is not >> long at all. So that that idea, you >> long at all. So that that idea, you >> long at all. So that that idea, you know, a hack for somebody who can't wrap know, a hack for somebody who can't wrap know, a hack for somebody who can't wrap their brain around doing this or with a their brain around doing this or with a their brain around doing this or with a with a client, what I would do, this is with a client, what I would do, this is with a client, what I would do, this is another way I love to use this tool. You another way I love to use this tool. You another way I love to use this tool. You fast somebody for 24 to 48 hours and fast somebody for 24 to 48 hours and fast somebody for 24 to 48 hours and then they're you start to realize and then they're you start to realize and then they're you start to realize and then their first meal they get to have then their first meal they get to have then their first meal they get to have is is the breakfast dinner, you know, is is is the breakfast dinner, you know, is is is the breakfast dinner, you know, is the is the eggs over. Yeah. name that the is the eggs over. Yeah. name that the is the eggs over. Yeah. name that whatever it is, watch how good that whatever it is, watch how good that whatever it is, watch how good that tastes when you haven't had something tastes when you haven't had something tastes when you haven't had something for that long. And it's like you need to for that long. And it's like you need to for that long. And it's like you need to recondition that or change that recondition that or change that recondition that or change that relationship with food. There you go. relationship with food. There you go. relationship with food. There you go. That's how you start doing that is and That's how you start doing that is and That's how you start doing that is and if it that's so hard for you to to wrap if it that's so hard for you to to wrap if it that's so hard for you to to wrap your brain around. And then after you've your brain around. And then after you've your brain around. And then after you've you've conditioned yourself, which I've you've conditioned yourself, which I've you've conditioned yourself, which I've done been doing this long enough now, done been doing this long enough now, done been doing this long enough now, like I actually crave that. Like that like I actually crave that. Like that like I actually crave that. Like that sounds so much better than a bowl of sounds so much better than a bowl of sounds so much better than a bowl of cereal or waffles or pancake pancakes do cereal or waffles or pancake pancakes do cereal or waffles or pancake pancakes do for breakfast is having so having one of for breakfast is having so having one of for breakfast is having so having one of those dinners with some eggs cracked those dinners with some eggs cracked those dinners with some eggs cracked over the top. over the top. over the top. >> I'm just thinking of so many things are >> I'm just thinking of so many things are >> I'm just thinking of so many things are like toast like when would you eat toast like toast like when would you eat toast like toast like when would you eat toast aside from breakfast? aside from breakfast? aside from breakfast? >> Yeah. When would you have just >> Yeah. When would you have just >> Yeah. When would you have just >> a slice of toast with butter? And I mean >> a slice of toast with butter? And I mean >> a slice of toast with butter? And I mean it's it's really good thing to think it's it's really good thing to think it's it's really good thing to think about and understand because I think the about and understand because I think the about and understand because I think the key I know this the key to long-term key I know this the key to long-term key I know this the key to long-term success with diet uh is changing success with diet uh is changing success with diet uh is changing relationship to food. That's really what relationship to food. That's really what relationship to food. That's really what it boils down to. it boils down to. it boils down to. >> That's all this is. >> That's all this is. >> That's all this is. >> Cuz when you have a a first off, you >> Cuz when you have a a first off, you >> Cuz when you have a a first off, you have to have a complete relationship have to have a complete relationship have to have a complete relationship with food. What I mean by that is if you with food. What I mean by that is if you with food. What I mean by that is if you grew up in a modern society, which if grew up in a modern society, which if grew up in a modern society, which if you're listening to this podcast, the you're listening to this podcast, the you're listening to this podcast, the odds are you did. Your relationship with odds are you did. Your relationship with odds are you did. Your relationship with food is very narrow likely. It's it's food is very narrow likely. It's it's food is very narrow likely. It's it's likely this really narrow relationship likely this really narrow relationship likely this really narrow relationship where it really boils down to is it the where it really boils down to is it the where it really boils down to is it the right time to eat this food and is it right time to eat this food and is it right time to eat this food and is it palatable? That's it. It's really about palatable? That's it. It's really about palatable? That's it. It's really about it. That's how you judge what you need it. That's how you judge what you need it. That's how you judge what you need to eat for the most part is am I going to eat for the most part is am I going to eat for the most part is am I going to enjoy eating this thing. You don't to enjoy eating this thing. You don't to enjoy eating this thing. You don't have a complete relationship like how have a complete relationship like how have a complete relationship like how does this affect my digestion or does this affect my digestion or does this affect my digestion or athletic performance or energy. You athletic performance or energy. You athletic performance or energy. You don't have a complete relationship with don't have a complete relationship with don't have a complete relationship with it. And I know this because I've trained it. And I know this because I've trained it. And I know this because I've trained so many people that when I would have so many people that when I would have so many people that when I would have people start paying attention, they people start paying attention, they people start paying attention, they started to realize that certain foods started to realize that certain foods started to realize that certain foods that they ate all the time made them that they ate all the time made them that they ate all the time made them feel crummy. Yeah. feel crummy. Yeah. feel crummy. Yeah. >> Like I didn't even realize that the >> Like I didn't even realize that the >> Like I didn't even realize that the energy crash I had was because I had a energy crash I had was because I had a energy crash I had was because I had a bagel every morning. Once I took that bagel every morning. Once I took that bagel every morning. Once I took that out, I felt better. It's really I so one out, I felt better. It's really I so one out, I felt better. It's really I so one of my family members is doing this with of my family members is doing this with of my family members is doing this with diet and uh she has eliminated a lot of diet and uh she has eliminated a lot of diet and uh she has eliminated a lot of things out of her diet and then recently things out of her diet and then recently things out of her diet and then recently had an oat milk latte from Starbucks and had an oat milk latte from Starbucks and had an oat milk latte from Starbucks and she texted us and she's like this kills she texted us and she's like this kills she texted us and she's like this kills my stomach. She's like I didn't realize my stomach. She's like I didn't realize my stomach. She's like I didn't realize I always had stomach issues and it was I always had stomach issues and it was I always had stomach issues and it was probably this thing I had every day. I probably this thing I had every day. I probably this thing I had every day. I just had to take it out just had to take it out just had to take it out >> for 30 days before I I I realized it. >> for 30 days before I I I realized it. >> for 30 days before I I I realized it. But once you have a complete But once you have a complete But once you have a complete relationship here's the selling point relationship here's the selling point relationship here's the selling point now I'm going to sell to everybody. As now I'm going to sell to everybody. As now I'm going to sell to everybody. As your relationship with food becomes more your relationship with food becomes more your relationship with food becomes more complete, it gets easier to eat healthy. complete, it gets easier to eat healthy. complete, it gets easier to eat healthy. >> Way easier. >> Way easier. >> Way easier. >> It's It's not like this struggle all the >> It's It's not like this struggle all the >> It's It's not like this struggle all the time because you have this better time because you have this better time because you have this better relationship with it. relationship with it. relationship with it. >> I mean, I I think it's just I think it's >> I mean, I I think it's just I think it's >> I mean, I I think it's just I think it's hilarious that something that you admit hilarious that something that you admit hilarious that something that you admit that you like at 6 p.m. at night, you that you like at 6 p.m. at night, you that you like at 6 p.m. at night, you don't at at 7:00. Like that is should don't at at 7:00. Like that is should don't at at 7:00. Like that is should make you want to inspect that make you want to inspect that make you want to inspect that relationship. It's relationship. It's relationship. It's >> like >> like >> like >> that's strange. It's not It's not like >> that's strange. It's not It's not like >> that's strange. It's not It's not like I'm asking you to eat something that you I'm asking you to eat something that you I'm asking you to eat something that you don't like. I'm like, all I'm saying is don't like. I'm like, all I'm saying is don't like. I'm like, all I'm saying is the thing that you ate at 7:00 that you the thing that you ate at 7:00 that you the thing that you ate at 7:00 that you love to eat, throw four eggs over it in love to eat, throw four eggs over it in love to eat, throw four eggs over it in the morning time and it's lifechanging. the morning time and it's lifechanging. the morning time and it's lifechanging. And it's just like and then just do that And it's just like and then just do that And it's just like and then just do that for a while, recondition like how you for a while, recondition like how you for a while, recondition like how you what you eat in the morning like that what you eat in the morning like that what you eat in the morning like that and holy [ __ ] look at this. And it's and holy [ __ ] look at this. And it's and holy [ __ ] look at this. And it's like it's so timesaving cuz you're like it's so timesaving cuz you're like it's so timesaving cuz you're you're already making dinner is the one you're already making dinner is the one you're already making dinner is the one that I I feel like most people, not that I I feel like most people, not that I I feel like most people, not everybody, but most people consistently everybody, but most people consistently everybody, but most people consistently make, right? make, right? make, right? >> Yeah. If they're going to cook anything. >> Yeah. If they're going to cook anything. >> Yeah. If they're going to cook anything. >> If you're going to cook Yeah. If you're >> If you're going to cook Yeah. If you're >> If you're going to cook Yeah. If you're going to cook because you I mean going to cook because you I mean going to cook because you I mean obviously there's people out there like obviously there's people out there like obviously there's people out there like I don't cook anything. I get that too. I don't cook anything. I get that too. I don't cook anything. I get that too. But But But >> but the one meal you like >> but the one meal you like >> but the one meal you like >> but yeah the one meal you cook dinner. >> but yeah the one meal you cook dinner. >> but yeah the one meal you cook dinner. Okay. So stop cooking just for dinner Okay. So stop cooking just for dinner Okay. So stop cooking just for dinner and start double the recipe. Like double and start double the recipe. Like double and start double the recipe. Like double or triple the recipe and then while or triple the recipe and then while or triple the recipe and then while you're cleaning the kitchen up, which we you're cleaning the kitchen up, which we you're cleaning the kitchen up, which we all do, we have to do all do, we have to do all do, we have to do >> section it off in the the cup of rice, >> section it off in the the cup of rice, >> section it off in the the cup of rice, the 6 to8 ounces of meat in your the 6 to8 ounces of meat in your the 6 to8 ounces of meat in your Tupperware. Put it in the fridge. And Tupperware. Put it in the fridge. And Tupperware. Put it in the fridge. And then in the morning when you get up and then in the morning when you get up and then in the morning when you get up and you're in such a hurry, take the 2 you're in such a hurry, take the 2 you're in such a hurry, take the 2 minutes 30 seconds to put in the minutes 30 seconds to put in the minutes 30 seconds to put in the microwave and throw the four eggs on. microwave and throw the four eggs on. microwave and throw the four eggs on. And then And then And then >> it's so it's so funny. I was just having >> it's so it's so funny. I was just having >> it's so it's so funny. I was just having this conversation uh something like this conversation uh something like this conversation uh something like along those lines with my wife cuz I did along those lines with my wife cuz I did along those lines with my wife cuz I did uh I grilled a bunch of chicken thighs uh I grilled a bunch of chicken thighs uh I grilled a bunch of chicken thighs yesterday. So I did like meal prep yesterday. So I did like meal prep yesterday. So I did like meal prep sometimes. I make a bunch of chicken sometimes. I make a bunch of chicken sometimes. I make a bunch of chicken thighs so I have a bunch of ready meals thighs so I have a bunch of ready meals thighs so I have a bunch of ready meals that I can have, you know, when I come that I can have, you know, when I come that I can have, you know, when I come to work or whatever. And so she's to work or whatever. And so she's to work or whatever. And so she's putting them in in Tupper Wars for me putting them in in Tupper Wars for me putting them in in Tupper Wars for me and she's like, "You're going to eat the and she's like, "You're going to eat the and she's like, "You're going to eat the same thing like don't you get sick of same thing like don't you get sick of same thing like don't you get sick of this?" I said, "No." No. I said, first this?" I said, "No." No. I said, first this?" I said, "No." No. I said, first off, it it I like the taste. It's not off, it it I like the taste. It's not off, it it I like the taste. It's not bad. It's not like as good as like pizza bad. It's not like as good as like pizza bad. It's not like as good as like pizza or something like that, but it's not or something like that, but it's not or something like that, but it's not bad, but it makes me feel good to eat bad, but it makes me feel good to eat bad, but it makes me feel good to eat this way. So, I enjoy eating it. Now, this way. So, I enjoy eating it. Now, this way. So, I enjoy eating it. Now, it's not the only thing I eat. Uh I it's not the only thing I eat. Uh I it's not the only thing I eat. Uh I don't just eat these meals cuz she makes don't just eat these meals cuz she makes don't just eat these meals cuz she makes dinner, so I have something different dinner, so I have something different dinner, so I have something different for dinner. Uh sometimes I'll have for dinner. Uh sometimes I'll have for dinner. Uh sometimes I'll have something different for breakfast, but something different for breakfast, but something different for breakfast, but it's my relationship with it is it's it's my relationship with it is it's it's my relationship with it is it's enjoyable because it doesn't taste bad, enjoyable because it doesn't taste bad, enjoyable because it doesn't taste bad, but I like the way it makes me feel. but I like the way it makes me feel. but I like the way it makes me feel. that I was just came back from LA for a that I was just came back from LA for a that I was just came back from LA for a podcast circuit and I'm very aware I've podcast circuit and I'm very aware I've podcast circuit and I'm very aware I've I've been doing this uh for Mind Pump I've been doing this uh for Mind Pump I've been doing this uh for Mind Pump for a while now where I go and I'll fly for a while now where I go and I'll fly for a while now where I go and I'll fly somewhere and do like three or four somewhere and do like three or four somewhere and do like three or four shows in a day which requires a lot of shows in a day which requires a lot of shows in a day which requires a lot of energy not physical energy but you have energy not physical energy but you have energy not physical energy but you have to be mentally sharp and you go from one to be mentally sharp and you go from one to be mentally sharp and you go from one place to another get on you got to do place to another get on you got to do place to another get on you got to do your thing and you know so I'm really your thing and you know so I'm really your thing and you know so I'm really really conscious of how I feel mentally really conscious of how I feel mentally really conscious of how I feel mentally I'm very aware of which foods uh I I'm very aware of which foods uh I I'm very aware of which foods uh I should eat when I'm doing that and it should eat when I'm doing that and it should eat when I'm doing that and it typically looks like lower carb carb, typically looks like lower carb carb, typically looks like lower carb carb, higher protein, and I'll have some higher protein, and I'll have some higher protein, and I'll have some fiber. So, breakfast, normally what I fiber. So, breakfast, normally what I fiber. So, breakfast, normally what I would have, let's say steak, eggs, and would have, let's say steak, eggs, and would have, let's say steak, eggs, and potatoes. I'll have just some steak and potatoes. I'll have just some steak and potatoes. I'll have just some steak and some berries. And then for lunch, it's some berries. And then for lunch, it's some berries. And then for lunch, it's going to be like some kind of vegetable going to be like some kind of vegetable going to be like some kind of vegetable and some kind of protein. I don't and some kind of protein. I don't and some kind of protein. I don't normally eat like that regularly, but I normally eat like that regularly, but I normally eat like that regularly, but I know I feel more mentally sharp to be know I feel more mentally sharp to be know I feel more mentally sharp to be able to do four shows from 8:00 a.m. to, able to do four shows from 8:00 a.m. to, able to do four shows from 8:00 a.m. to, you know, 3:00 p.m. Yeah. you know, 3:00 p.m. Yeah. you know, 3:00 p.m. Yeah. >> And so, I'm just aware. And so, what >> And so, I'm just aware. And so, what >> And so, I'm just aware. And so, what does this mean? When I eat it, do I hate does this mean? When I eat it, do I hate does this mean? When I eat it, do I hate it? No. I enjoy it because I know what it? No. I enjoy it because I know what it? No. I enjoy it because I know what it's going to produce. So, the it's going to produce. So, the it's going to produce. So, the relationship with it is fine. doesn't relationship with it is fine. doesn't relationship with it is fine. doesn't bother me. Yeah. You know, bother me. Yeah. You know, bother me. Yeah. You know, >> I mean, I actually prefer it. I think >> I mean, I actually prefer it. I think >> I mean, I actually prefer it. I think it's great. I also think, too, uh I it's great. I also think, too, uh I it's great. I also think, too, uh I mean, you can't you you don't do dairy, mean, you can't you you don't do dairy, mean, you can't you you don't do dairy, right? right? right? >> But the the dishes that I'm I'm giving >> But the the dishes that I'm I'm giving >> But the the dishes that I'm I'm giving examples of, too, examples of, too, examples of, too, >> throw some cheese on. >> throw some cheese on. >> throw some cheese on. >> Throw some cheese on. One to two ounces >> Throw some cheese on. One to two ounces >> Throw some cheese on. One to two ounces of cheese on top of that, too. of cheese on top of that, too. of cheese on top of that, too. >> I mean, is >> I mean, is >> I mean, is >> you could throw that on anything >> you could throw that on anything >> you could throw that on anything >> is amazing. I do. >> is amazing. I do. >> is amazing. I do. >> And let me tell you, uh 1 to 2 ounces of >> And let me tell you, uh 1 to 2 ounces of >> And let me tell you, uh 1 to 2 ounces of cheese on on a dish like that is not cheese on on a dish like that is not cheese on on a dish like that is not what's keeping you fat or not fat. No. what's keeping you fat or not fat. No. what's keeping you fat or not fat. No. Like that. You're talking about a couple Like that. You're talking about a couple Like that. You're talking about a couple hundred calories in in the morning time hundred calories in in the morning time hundred calories in in the morning time over a healthy dish. That that's not the over a healthy dish. That that's not the over a healthy dish. That that's not the difference of you being in shape or not difference of you being in shape or not difference of you being in shape or not shape. So it doesn't have to be so it shape. So it doesn't have to be so it shape. So it doesn't have to be so it doesn't have to be dry chicken breast doesn't have to be dry chicken breast doesn't have to be dry chicken breast and white rice and pouring eggs. Like and white rice and pouring eggs. Like and white rice and pouring eggs. Like no, I'm I'm got cheese and salsa and no, I'm I'm got cheese and salsa and no, I'm I'm got cheese and salsa and like yo, it's it's like yo, it's it's like yo, it's it's >> salsa is another good one. >> salsa is another good one. >> salsa is another good one. >> Yeah, it's amazing. >> Yeah, it's amazing. >> Yeah, it's amazing. >> All right, I got to I got to bring this >> All right, I got to I got to bring this >> All right, I got to I got to bring this up. I can't hold it in any longer, up. I can't hold it in any longer, up. I can't hold it in any longer, Justin, because you're going to die, Justin, because you're going to die, Justin, because you're going to die, bro, over this. Remember how I brought bro, over this. Remember how I brought bro, over this. Remember how I brought up how um they've uh killer whales have up how um they've uh killer whales have up how um they've uh killer whales have been observed been observed been observed >> putting dead salmon on their heads and >> putting dead salmon on their heads and >> putting dead salmon on their heads and mocking the salmon and it's like a mocking the salmon and it's like a mocking the salmon and it's like a style. It's like they're showing off style. It's like they're showing off style. It's like they're showing off their new style. their new style. their new style. >> Did you know chimps are being observed >> Did you know chimps are being observed >> Did you know chimps are being observed putting blades of grass up their butt? putting blades of grass up their butt? putting blades of grass up their butt? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah, definitely. >> Yeah, definitely. >> Yeah, definitely. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> They'll walk around and they'll have >> They'll walk around and they'll have >> They'll walk around and they'll have long blades of grass sticking out of long blades of grass sticking out of long blades of grass sticking out of their butt. And to the best of the their butt. And to the best of the their butt. And to the best of the scientist's ability, they're like, "This scientist's ability, they're like, "This scientist's ability, they're like, "This I think it's a style I think it's a style I think it's a style >> or or they ate something that or they >> or or they ate something that or they >> or or they ate something that or they ate something that made their butt itch ate something that made their butt itch ate something that made their butt itch instead of trying to instead of trying to instead of trying to >> No, they they they're literally this is >> No, they they they're literally this is >> No, they they they're literally this is like a a phenomena that's been well like a a phenomena that's been well like a a phenomena that's been well observed. It's not like observed. It's not like observed. It's not like >> shaking it around. >> shaking it around. >> shaking it around. >> No, you got to see the pictures, dude. >> No, you got to see the pictures, dude. >> No, you got to see the pictures, dude. Let's see if Doug can find some of these Let's see if Doug can find some of these Let's see if Doug can find some of these pictures. They're walking around. It's pictures. They're walking around. It's pictures. They're walking around. It's like long grades of the like long grades of the like long grades of the >> long blades of brass. Wildlife. >> long blades of brass. Wildlife. >> long blades of brass. Wildlife. >> It's nonfunctional and pointless. A >> It's nonfunctional and pointless. A >> It's nonfunctional and pointless. A fashion trend of sticky. You got to find fashion trend of sticky. You got to find fashion trend of sticky. You got to find the pictures of it, though, because I the pictures of it, though, because I the pictures of it, though, because I was I was cracking up. There you go. was I was cracking up. There you go. was I was cracking up. There you go. Yeah. See, Yeah. See, Yeah. See, >> grassy >> grassy >> grassy >> butt. >> butt. >> butt. >> Yeah, look at that guy on the left. >> Yeah, look at that guy on the left. >> Yeah, look at that guy on the left. >> They're so They're so hot right now. >> They're so They're so hot right now. >> They're so They're so hot right now. >> Look at that, dude. But you know what it >> Look at that, dude. But you know what it >> Look at that, dude. But you know what it makes me think of, too? Like, we laugh makes me think of, too? Like, we laugh makes me think of, too? Like, we laugh at that. We think they're so ridiculous. at that. We think they're so ridiculous. at that. We think they're so ridiculous. Like, come on. Everything we wear is Like, come on. Everything we wear is Like, come on. Everything we wear is ridiculous. ridiculous. ridiculous. >> I was going to say this is them >> I was going to say this is them >> I was going to say this is them mimicking us. They see like women mimicking us. They see like women mimicking us. They see like women walking around skirts. They're like, walking around skirts. They're like, walking around skirts. They're like, "This is their version." "This is their version." "This is their version." >> Or super long, you know, super high >> Or super long, you know, super high >> Or super long, you know, super high heels that hurt your feet or whatever. heels that hurt your feet or whatever. heels that hurt your feet or whatever. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> The first chimp to do that was the cool. >> The first chimp to do that was the cool. >> The first chimp to do that was the cool. >> Nice little accessory. >> Nice little accessory. >> Nice little accessory. And then everybody decided And then everybody decided And then everybody decided >> he's the trend setter. >> he's the trend setter. >> he's the trend setter. >> Look, look at look how much grass he has >> Look, look at look how much grass he has >> Look, look at look how much grass he has up his butt. up his butt. up his butt. >> Hey, look at Dave, dude. He's got he's >> Hey, look at Dave, dude. He's got he's >> Hey, look at Dave, dude. He's got he's got something something shiny over here. got something something shiny over here. got something something shiny over here. As As As >> soon as the female chimps were attracted >> soon as the female chimps were attracted >> soon as the female chimps were attracted to it, all the other dudes were like, to it, all the other dudes were like, to it, all the other dudes were like, >> "That is so weird." >> "That is so weird." >> "That is so weird." >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Is it possible there's some sort of uh >> Is it possible there's some sort of uh >> Is it possible there's some sort of uh nutrient that's in the grass that is nutrient that's in the grass that is nutrient that's in the grass that is getting absorbed? getting absorbed? getting absorbed? >> I don't think. >> I don't think. >> I don't think. >> Or was this like a prank and they're >> Or was this like a prank and they're >> Or was this like a prank and they're like, you know, like farting it over one like, you know, like farting it over one like, you know, like farting it over one of them or something and then it just of them or something and then it just of them or something and then it just >> I mean, did you go did you go down the >> I mean, did you go did you go down the >> I mean, did you go did you go down the rabbit hole read some theories or they rabbit hole read some theories or they rabbit hole read some theories or they just go It literally trend the best. just go It literally trend the best. just go It literally trend the best. That's it. It's it's some kind of That's it. It's it's some kind of That's it. It's it's some kind of >> I mean as soon as as soon as Doug >> I mean as soon as as soon as Doug >> I mean as soon as as soon as Doug Googled it that was the first thing that Googled it that was the first thing that Googled it that was the first thing that came up was trend was fashion. came up was trend was fashion. came up was trend was fashion. >> One of them was like it just >> One of them was like it just >> One of them was like it just accidentally like you know was trying to accidentally like you know was trying to accidentally like you know was trying to like wipe or something and stuck it in like wipe or something and stuck it in like wipe or something and stuck it in there and it was just walking around. there and it was just walking around. there and it was just walking around. They're like They're like They're like >> oh man there's a on to something >> oh man there's a on to something >> oh man there's a on to something >> 12-year-old chimp named Juma who started >> 12-year-old chimp named Juma who started >> 12-year-old chimp named Juma who started it all it all it all >> in 2023. >> in 2023. >> in 2023. >> The origin. Yeah dude. >> The origin. Yeah dude. >> The origin. Yeah dude. >> Oh it's like this is a new >> Oh it's like this is a new >> Oh it's like this is a new >> Yeah. Hey you got those. >> Yeah. Hey you got those. >> Yeah. Hey you got those. >> And so once Juma did it. So once Juma >> And so once Juma did it. So once Juma >> And so once Juma did it. So once Juma did it, five five other chimps did the did it, five five other chimps did the did it, five five other chimps did the same thing within a few weeks. same thing within a few weeks. same thing within a few weeks. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> What? Yeah. >> What? Yeah. >> What? Yeah. >> Didn't they just like grab one and do >> Didn't they just like grab one and do >> Didn't they just like grab one and do that blade thing? that blade thing? that blade thing? >> Juma Juma is a trends setter, dude. >> Juma Juma is a trends setter, dude. >> Juma Juma is a trends setter, dude. >> Yeah. Jumas. >> Yeah. Jumas. >> Yeah. Jumas. >> You got you got them Jumas, dude. You >> You got you got them Jumas, dude. You >> You got you got them Jumas, dude. You got Jumas going on, dude. And I thought got Jumas going on, dude. And I thought got Jumas going on, dude. And I thought >> weird. >> weird. >> weird. >> Speaking of like Revelations and stuff. >> Speaking of like Revelations and stuff. >> Speaking of like Revelations and stuff. So I'm in LA, right? So I'm in LA, right? So I'm in LA, right? >> I got to share this because it's just, >> I got to share this because it's just, >> I got to share this because it's just, you know, for the aging dudes. you know, for the aging dudes. you know, for the aging dudes. >> For the aging dudes listening right now. >> For the aging dudes listening right now. >> For the aging dudes listening right now. So, I'm in the hotel and in the hotel So, I'm in the hotel and in the hotel So, I'm in the hotel and in the hotel room, the bathroom has your mirror, room, the bathroom has your mirror, room, the bathroom has your mirror, >> but then it has one of those side >> but then it has one of those side >> but then it has one of those side mirrors that kind of unfolds, kind of mirrors that kind of unfolds, kind of mirrors that kind of unfolds, kind of folds out, the little mirror. folds out, the little mirror. folds out, the little mirror. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And I wake up, you know, do my thing, >> And I wake up, you know, do my thing, >> And I wake up, you know, do my thing, take a shower. I'm trying to like get my take a shower. I'm trying to like get my take a shower. I'm trying to like get my hair to look, you know, halfway decent, hair to look, you know, halfway decent, hair to look, you know, halfway decent, whatever. whatever. whatever. >> So, I use the little mirror and I go >> So, I use the little mirror and I go >> So, I use the little mirror and I go like this. I see my head, bro, from this like this. I see my head, bro, from this like this. I see my head, bro, from this angle right here. Bro, angle right here. Bro, angle right here. Bro, >> I think every Hey, >> I think every Hey, >> I think every Hey, >> the hair loss is really fast. >> the hair loss is really fast. >> the hair loss is really fast. >> I think every every it's >> I think every every it's >> I think every every it's >> every man that went bald has that story >> every man that went bald has that story >> every man that went bald has that story >> that one time that I know >> that one time that I know >> that one time that I know >> that the the like like No, you were >> that the the like like No, you were >> that the the like like No, you were never in denial that you were fitting. I never in denial that you were fitting. I never in denial that you were fitting. I was never in denial, but there was the was never in denial, but there was the was never in denial, but there was the there's a there's there's a very clear there's a there's there's a very clear there's a there's there's a very clear moment in time and I remember when mine moment in time and I remember when mine moment in time and I remember when mine was. is it was when we were shooting was. is it was when we were shooting was. is it was when we were shooting content early days out in the front and content early days out in the front and content early days out in the front and uh Rachel still work for us and I think uh Rachel still work for us and I think uh Rachel still work for us and I think her and Drew were behind the camera back her and Drew were behind the camera back her and Drew were behind the camera back then and she's doing cuts, you know, and then and she's doing cuts, you know, and then and she's doing cuts, you know, and then she'd come over and she'd be like then she'd come over and she'd be like then she'd come over and she'd be like and between cuts I was down on my phone and between cuts I was down on my phone and between cuts I was down on my phone working and that was when we had all working and that was when we had all working and that was when we had all them soft lights up there bright lights them soft lights up there bright lights them soft lights up there bright lights and so so she's like you know what do and so so she's like you know what do and so so she's like you know what do you think of this edit? She's going you think of this edit? She's going you think of this edit? She's going through and then you see me put my head through and then you see me put my head through and then you see me put my head down and look and I'm like down and look and I'm like down and look and I'm like >> yeah yeah what's happening? Nobody told >> yeah yeah what's happening? Nobody told >> yeah yeah what's happening? Nobody told me it was like that bad, you know? It's me it was like that bad, you know? It's me it was like that bad, you know? It's like I knew of course I knew like but I like I knew of course I knew like but I like I knew of course I knew like but I didn't know like that like and I was didn't know like that like and I was didn't know like that like and I was just that was it. I l next day I sh I just that was it. I l next day I sh I just that was it. I l next day I sh I was shaved off, dude. And then I never was shaved off, dude. And then I never was shaved off, dude. And then I never looked back. I was like, looked back. I was like, looked back. I was like, >> "Well, so I'm like I'm not as brave as >> "Well, so I'm like I'm not as brave as >> "Well, so I'm like I'm not as brave as you are." So I was telling my wife cuz you are." So I was telling my wife cuz you are." So I was telling my wife cuz my wife's been slowly like encouraging my wife's been slowly like encouraging my wife's been slowly like encouraging me like, "Cut your hair shorter. Like me like, "Cut your hair shorter. Like me like, "Cut your hair shorter. Like let's slowly transition." let's slowly transition." let's slowly transition." >> So I I text her. I'm like, "Babe, I'm >> So I I text her. I'm like, "Babe, I'm >> So I I text her. I'm like, "Babe, I'm like it's really bad." She's like, "It's like it's really bad." She's like, "It's like it's really bad." She's like, "It's not I'm" I'm like, "Honey, you're short. not I'm" I'm like, "Honey, you're short. not I'm" I'm like, "Honey, you're short. You don't see the top." You don't see the top." You don't see the top." >> Like like you know cuz you see me from >> Like like you know cuz you see me from >> Like like you know cuz you see me from here. here. here. >> That's how I feel Katrina was Katrina's >> That's how I feel Katrina was Katrina's >> That's how I feel Katrina was Katrina's like oh it's fine. I'm like you don't like oh it's fine. I'm like you don't like oh it's fine. I'm like you don't see the top. Yeah. You don't see the see the top. Yeah. You don't see the see the top. Yeah. You don't see the angle. angle. angle. >> Yeah. So, so she's she's like, "This is >> Yeah. So, so she's she's like, "This is >> Yeah. So, so she's she's like, "This is what you're going to do." She goes, "Uh, what you're going to do." She goes, "Uh, what you're going to do." She goes, "Uh, when Vicki cuts your hair." So, so today when Vicki cuts your hair." So, so today when Vicki cuts your hair." So, so today it's shorter. it's shorter. it's shorter. >> Every week, get it a little shorter. A >> Every week, get it a little shorter. A >> Every week, get it a little shorter. A little shorter. And then eventually little shorter. And then eventually little shorter. And then eventually you'll be all the way down. Interesting you'll be all the way down. Interesting you'll be all the way down. Interesting strategy. I'm not against it. I think strategy. I'm not against it. I think strategy. I'm not against it. I think it's I think it's interesting. I'm more it's I think it's interesting. I'm more it's I think it's interesting. I'm more of a rip the band-aid off guy. of a rip the band-aid off guy. of a rip the band-aid off guy. >> So, you got like the crew cut going now. >> So, you got like the crew cut going now. >> So, you got like the crew cut going now. >> Cuz I'm trying to think if I like I'm >> Cuz I'm trying to think if I like I'm >> Cuz I'm trying to think if I like I'm looking at it right now and I'm like if looking at it right now and I'm like if looking at it right now and I'm like if I grew mine back out, I think I might be I grew mine back out, I think I might be I grew mine back out, I think I might be like like like >> Would it be like this? >> Would it be like this? >> Would it be like this? >> Well, who knows, though. It's been a >> Well, who knows, though. It's been a >> Well, who knows, though. It's been a while. You know what I'm saying? So I I while. You know what I'm saying? So I I while. You know what I'm saying? So I I like because I was I was already like because I was I was already like because I was I was already committed before that. Yeah. Yeah. committed before that. Yeah. Yeah. committed before that. Yeah. Yeah. You're thin enough now where I was I was You're thin enough now where I was I was You're thin enough now where I was I was that was enough for me. That was that that was enough for me. That was that that was enough for me. That was that the white light hitting like the the white light hitting like the the white light hitting like the experience you just had was enough for experience you just had was enough for experience you just had was enough for me to go like but I also you know cuz uh me to go like but I also you know cuz uh me to go like but I also you know cuz uh and you'll see watch when you get all and you'll see watch when you get all and you'll see watch when you get all these messages these messages these messages >> cuz there's a bunch of dudes. >> cuz there's a bunch of dudes. >> cuz there's a bunch of dudes. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I I mean I as a >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I I mean I as a >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. I I mean I as a kid we I shaved my head intentionally kid we I shaved my head intentionally kid we I shaved my head intentionally like all the time. like all the time. like all the time. >> So did I. >> So did I. >> So did I. >> Oh, you did? Okay. Oh, okay. So then it >> Oh, you did? Okay. Oh, okay. So then it >> Oh, you did? Okay. Oh, okay. So then it shouldn't be a big deal for you either. shouldn't be a big deal for you either. shouldn't be a big deal for you either. Yeah. That's how I feel like if you Yeah. That's how I feel like if you Yeah. That's how I feel like if you >> honestly if we weren't on camera all the >> honestly if we weren't on camera all the >> honestly if we weren't on camera all the time I wouldn't care less. I'd just time I wouldn't care less. I'd just time I wouldn't care less. I'd just shave it. But I just I'm waiting for the shave it. But I just I'm waiting for the shave it. But I just I'm waiting for the comments. You know what I mean? Like, comments. You know what I mean? Like, comments. You know what I mean? Like, oh, he shaved his head. Where'd it go? oh, he shaved his head. Where'd it go? oh, he shaved his head. Where'd it go? You know, You know, You know, >> maybe become a beanie guy. >> maybe become a beanie guy. >> maybe become a beanie guy. >> A beanie guy. >> A beanie guy. >> A beanie guy. >> You're not really a hat guy. >> You're not really a hat guy. >> You're not really a hat guy. >> No, you guys have good hat faces. I >> No, you guys have good hat faces. I >> No, you guys have good hat faces. I don't. The beak thing. don't. The beak thing. don't. The beak thing. >> Justin is Justin is the one that makes >> Justin is Justin is the one that makes >> Justin is Justin is the one that makes me the most angry. me the most angry. me the most angry. >> He has this gorgeous hair and he wears a >> He has this gorgeous hair and he wears a >> He has this gorgeous hair and he wears a hat all the time. It's like hat all the time. It's like hat all the time. It's like disrespectful. disrespectful. disrespectful. >> It's like disrespectful to guys that >> It's like disrespectful to guys that >> It's like disrespectful to guys that don't have hair. don't have hair. don't have hair. >> To see a guy wear a ball cap all the >> To see a guy wear a ball cap all the >> To see a guy wear a ball cap all the time. you, bro. time. you, bro. time. you, bro. >> I Dude, it's just not my thing, man. >> I Dude, it's just not my thing, man. >> I Dude, it's just not my thing, man. >> Yeah, whatever it is. Whatever, bro. >> Yeah, whatever it is. Whatever, bro. >> Yeah, whatever it is. Whatever, bro. >> Disrespectful. >> Disrespectful. >> Disrespectful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> You know, back in the day, bald heads >> You know, back in the day, bald heads >> You know, back in the day, bald heads were uh prized and would Yes. were uh prized and would Yes. were uh prized and would Yes. >> I love that you could always back up. >> I love that you could always back up. >> I love that you could always back up. >> Yes. And men used to shave their heads >> Yes. And men used to shave their heads >> Yes. And men used to shave their heads in different cultures. in different cultures. in different cultures. >> He never brought this up when I was when >> He never brought this up when I was when >> He never brought this up when I was when I was bald. I was bald. I was bald. >> I think that was because of syphilis. >> I think that was because of syphilis. >> I think that was because of syphilis. Soon as he's Hey, soon as he starts Soon as he's Hey, soon as he starts Soon as he's Hey, soon as he starts going bald, he starts fighting. Yeah. He going bald, he starts fighting. Yeah. He going bald, he starts fighting. Yeah. He comes out with the science to support comes out with the science to support comes out with the science to support why this makes him a superior man. why this makes him a superior man. why this makes him a superior man. >> See that? >> See that? >> See that? >> That was syphilis and they got wigs as a >> That was syphilis and they got wigs as a >> That was syphilis and they got wigs as a result. result. result. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Well, no, that there's other >> Well, no, that there's other >> Well, no, that there's other >> Is that how the is that how the wig >> Is that how the is that how the wig >> Is that how the is that how the wig thing started? thing started? thing started? >> Yeah. Yeah. Powdered wigs. They all had >> Yeah. Yeah. Powdered wigs. They all had >> Yeah. Yeah. Powdered wigs. They all had syphilis. Yeah. syphilis. Yeah. syphilis. Yeah. >> Wow. I didn't know. >> Wow. I didn't know. >> Wow. I didn't know. >> Like I know in Japanese culture, men >> Like I know in Japanese culture, men >> Like I know in Japanese culture, men would shave the top. I know that uh for would shave the top. I know that uh for would shave the top. I know that uh for a long time, not not recent, but a while a long time, not not recent, but a while a long time, not not recent, but a while ago, if you were gray or especially ago, if you were gray or especially ago, if you were gray or especially balding, it was considered uh like balding, it was considered uh like balding, it was considered uh like wisdom, you know, you were considered wisdom, you know, you were considered wisdom, you know, you were considered more wise. more wise. more wise. >> That's gray. I know that about bald. >> That's gray. I know that about bald. >> That's gray. I know that about bald. >> No, really. It was It was >> No, really. It was It was >> No, really. It was It was >> You had to have the really long, you >> You had to have the really long, you >> You had to have the really long, you know. know. know. >> No, not that. Yeah. Whatever, dude. >> No, not that. Yeah. Whatever, dude. >> No, not that. Yeah. Whatever, dude. >> Mustachio. Are you Are you searching for >> Mustachio. Are you Are you searching for >> Mustachio. Are you Are you searching for us, Doug? us, Doug? us, Doug? >> Yeah. So, in Egypt, apparently, it was a >> Yeah. So, in Egypt, apparently, it was a >> Yeah. So, in Egypt, apparently, it was a big thing. Bald heads. big thing. Bald heads. big thing. Bald heads. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Yeah, there you go. >> That's a long time ago, though. Egypt >> That's a long time ago, though. Egypt >> That's a long time ago, though. Egypt things have changed. Ule Brener look things have changed. Ule Brener look things have changed. Ule Brener look whatever dude. whatever dude. whatever dude. >> Well no fact check simplest thing I want >> Well no fact check simplest thing I want >> Well no fact check simplest thing I want to hear that to hear that to hear that >> oh yeah no I know I'm on point >> oh yeah no I know I'm on point >> oh yeah no I know I'm on point >> across various cultures shaving >> across various cultures shaving >> across various cultures shaving >> the hidden racist history of hair loss. >> the hidden racist history of hair loss. >> the hidden racist history of hair loss. >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Racist racist history. >> Racist racist history. >> Racist racist history. >> The hidden racist history. >> The hidden racist history. >> The hidden racist history. >> Come on bro. Everything's racist. That's >> Come on bro. Everything's racist. That's >> Come on bro. Everything's racist. That's so stupid. so stupid. so stupid. >> Racist. >> Racist. >> Racist. >> See right there in some What's that >> See right there in some What's that >> See right there in some What's that symbol of wisdom? Historically in some symbol of wisdom? Historically in some symbol of wisdom? Historically in some context baldness was associated with context baldness was associated with context baldness was associated with maturity wisdom and nurturing. And it maturity wisdom and nurturing. And it maturity wisdom and nurturing. And it was treated with neutrality in art was treated with neutrality in art was treated with neutrality in art rather than as a flaw. rather than as a flaw. rather than as a flaw. >> Yeah. just got powdered wigs and >> Yeah. just got powdered wigs and >> Yeah. just got powdered wigs and syphilis. syphilis. syphilis. >> Well, I feel like I feel like the wisdom >> Well, I feel like I feel like the wisdom >> Well, I feel like I feel like the wisdom part is that because it's just like if part is that because it's just like if part is that because it's just like if you like like for example, Doug with his you like like for example, Doug with his you like like for example, Doug with his all his hair and his good looks could all his hair and his good looks could all his hair and his good looks could pass as a very young man still. pass as a very young man still. pass as a very young man still. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There when you're bald, there's no >> There when you're bald, there's no >> There when you're bald, there's no passing as a like I soon as I became passing as a like I soon as I became passing as a like I soon as I became like fully bald, I never got carted like fully bald, I never got carted like fully bald, I never got carted again. again. again. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. Never. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Once that >> Yeah. Never. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Once that >> Yeah. Never. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Once that happened, it was just like happened, it was just like happened, it was just like >> it's not that like athletic, you know? >> it's not that like athletic, you know? >> it's not that like athletic, you know? >> There's no like pull off. Maybe he's 17. >> There's no like pull off. Maybe he's 17. >> There's no like pull off. Maybe he's 17. No, he's like he's for sure of age. We No, he's like he's for sure of age. We No, he's like he's for sure of age. We can see the top shelves or something. can see the top shelves or something. can see the top shelves or something. >> Yeah. See, look at that. Powdered wigs >> Yeah. See, look at that. Powdered wigs >> Yeah. See, look at that. Powdered wigs were heavily associated with the were heavily associated with the were heavily associated with the syphilis epidemic that plagued Europe syphilis epidemic that plagued Europe syphilis epidemic that plagued Europe starting. I knew that. starting. I knew that. starting. I knew that. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Wow. Popular, fashionable, a necessary >> Wow. Popular, fashionable, a necessary >> Wow. Popular, fashionable, a necessary way to conceal the symptoms of the way to conceal the symptoms of the way to conceal the symptoms of the disease. disease. disease. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which included patchy hair loss. >> Which included patchy hair loss. >> Which included patchy hair loss. >> This is like the big white ones like the >> This is like the big white ones like the >> This is like the big white ones like the judges and judges and judges and >> powdered wigs. That's what those are >> powdered wigs. That's what those are >> powdered wigs. That's what those are called called called too. What do you mean by that? What do too. What do you mean by that? What do too. What do you mean by that? What do you mean? They they would have a wig and you mean? They they would have a wig and you mean? They they would have a wig and I don't know if it was human hair or I don't know if it was human hair or I don't know if it was human hair or horseair. I think it was horsehair and horseair. I think it was horsehair and horseair. I think it was horsehair and they would powder them with white powder they would powder them with white powder they would powder them with white powder to make them white. to make them white. to make them white. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So they're called powdered wigs. >> So they're called powdered wigs. >> So they're called powdered wigs. >> Oh, so those aren't those would be >> Oh, so those aren't those would be >> Oh, so those aren't those would be colored normally with colored normally with colored normally with >> because horseair they would use >> because horseair they would use >> because horseair they would use horsehair. horsehair. horsehair. >> No kidding. Yeah. >> No kidding. Yeah. >> No kidding. Yeah. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> And they'd be braided or whatever. Have >> And they'd be braided or whatever. Have >> And they'd be braided or whatever. Have you ever seen pictures of like you ever seen pictures of like you ever seen pictures of like Parliament, English Parliament, and Parliament, English Parliament, and Parliament, English Parliament, and they'll wear them? they'll wear them? they'll wear them? >> I mean, I feel like I've seen that, but >> I mean, I feel like I've seen that, but >> I mean, I feel like I've seen that, but I didn't know that. I didn't realize I didn't know that. I didn't realize I didn't know that. I didn't realize they were powders. they were powders. they were powders. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I had no idea. >> I had no idea. >> I had no idea. >> Really weird that men were into that. >> Really weird that men were into that. >> Really weird that men were into that. >> You know what's weird though? If you had >> You know what's weird though? If you had >> You know what's weird though? If you had syphilis, you were just screwed. Huh? syphilis, you were just screwed. Huh? syphilis, you were just screwed. Huh? How did it go away back then? It didn't. How did it go away back then? It didn't. How did it go away back then? It didn't. >> I don't think it went away. Yeah, you >> I don't think it went away. Yeah, you >> I don't think it went away. Yeah, you like suffered through it until it like like suffered through it until it like like suffered through it until it like took you out. took you out. took you out. >> What does it say? >> What does it say? >> What does it say? >> Yeah. So, the wigs were made out of >> Yeah. So, the wigs were made out of >> Yeah. So, the wigs were made out of human hair, horse hair, and goat hair. human hair, horse hair, and goat hair. human hair, horse hair, and goat hair. >> Depending on how rich you were, >> Depending on how rich you were, >> Depending on how rich you were, >> I suppose. >> I suppose. >> I suppose. >> Yeah. Goat hair was was like cheap >> Yeah. Goat hair was was like cheap >> Yeah. Goat hair was was like cheap >> and horse hair probably yak hair. >> and horse hair probably yak hair. >> and horse hair probably yak hair. >> Yak hair. I don't know. >> Yak hair. I don't know. >> Yak hair. I don't know. >> And then they and then they put powder >> And then they and then they put powder >> And then they and then they put powder all over. It doesn't look like you had all over. It doesn't look like you had all over. It doesn't look like you had powder all over it. It looked like powder all over it. It looked like powder all over it. It looked like >> they look like they're white. Yeah. >> they look like they're white. Yeah. >> they look like they're white. Yeah. >> Yeah. But that's that's cuz they were >> Yeah. But that's that's cuz they were >> Yeah. But that's that's cuz they were paintings. They didn't have your paintings. They didn't have your paintings. They didn't have your pictures, but it was it was powder. I pictures, but it was it was powder. I pictures, but it was it was powder. I guess that's a good point. guess that's a good point. guess that's a good point. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You want to know what's a weird trend >> You want to know what's a weird trend >> You want to know what's a weird trend that they did in Japan? I think it's that they did in Japan? I think it's that they did in Japan? I think it's Japan. Uh the women would blacken their Japan. Uh the women would blacken their Japan. Uh the women would blacken their teeth. Did you guys? teeth. Did you guys? teeth. Did you guys? >> Oh, yeah. That's true. >> Oh, yeah. That's true. >> Oh, yeah. That's true. >> Why? >> Why? >> Why? >> With like charcoal or what? >> With like charcoal or what? >> With like charcoal or what? >> I don't know what they would use, but >> I don't know what they would use, but >> I don't know what they would use, but cuz you'll still see old paintings. cuz you'll still see old paintings. cuz you'll still see old paintings. >> They use charcoal to brush your teeth >> They use charcoal to brush your teeth >> They use charcoal to brush your teeth back in the day. back in the day. back in the day. >> No, no, no. This was like they would >> No, no, no. This was like they would >> No, no, no. This was like they would stain their teeth black and this is like stain their teeth black and this is like stain their teeth black and this is like wealthy women would do this. wealthy women would do this. wealthy women would do this. >> That is weird, dude. Like I I just >> That is weird, dude. Like I I just >> That is weird, dude. Like I I just picture it and I'm like that will look picture it and I'm like that will look picture it and I'm like that will look dysfunctional. dysfunctional. dysfunctional. >> Yeah. No. You can see old Japanese >> Yeah. No. You can see old Japanese >> Yeah. No. You can see old Japanese paintings with these. paintings with these. paintings with these. >> What? What? What was the theory on? >> What? What? What was the theory on? >> What? What? What was the theory on? >> I don't know exactly. So, >> I don't know exactly. So, >> I don't know exactly. So, >> other than to signal wealth, right? What >> other than to signal wealth, right? What >> other than to signal wealth, right? What was was was >> it? Was a jack. Okay. So, here we go. It >> it? Was a jack. Okay. So, here we go. It >> it? Was a jack. Okay. So, here we go. It was called How do you say that, Doug? was called How do you say that, Doug? was called How do you say that, Doug? >> Oh, guro. >> Oh, guro. >> Oh, guro. >> Okay. It was a Japanese cosmetic custom >> Okay. It was a Japanese cosmetic custom >> Okay. It was a Japanese cosmetic custom primarily practiced from the Han. primarily practiced from the Han. primarily practiced from the Han. >> That's a long time. It was practiced for >> That's a long time. It was practiced for >> That's a long time. It was practiced for >> so from 794 to 8. Wow. 1868 periods were >> so from 794 to 8. Wow. 1868 periods were >> so from 794 to 8. Wow. 1868 periods were women and some men dyed their teeth women and some men dyed their teeth women and some men dyed their teeth black using a solution of iron fillings black using a solution of iron fillings black using a solution of iron fillings and vinegar. It signified beauty, and vinegar. It signified beauty, and vinegar. It signified beauty, maturity, marital status, and social maturity, marital status, and social maturity, marital status, and social status. Also acting as a dental sealant status. Also acting as a dental sealant status. Also acting as a dental sealant to prevent tooth decay. Wow. Huh. to prevent tooth decay. Wow. Huh. to prevent tooth decay. Wow. Huh. >> Isn't it? Look at that. And uh you'll >> Isn't it? Look at that. And uh you'll >> Isn't it? Look at that. And uh you'll see pictures of or paintings. see pictures of or paintings. see pictures of or paintings. >> I've never heard of that. >> I've never heard of that. >> I've never heard of that. >> Black teeth, though. >> Black teeth, though. >> Black teeth, though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That doesn't look that good. >> That doesn't look that good. >> That doesn't look that good. >> Yeah. See, look. See right there? >> Yeah. See, look. See right there? >> Yeah. See, look. See right there? >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Looks like you don't have teeth. >> Looks like you don't have teeth. >> Looks like you don't have teeth. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Dude, people we've been People are >> Dude, people we've been People are >> Dude, people we've been People are weird, dude. So, blades of grass up your weird, dude. So, blades of grass up your weird, dude. So, blades of grass up your butt. It's not that big of a I butt. It's not that big of a I butt. It's not that big of a I apparently it's uh you know part for the apparently it's uh you know part for the apparently it's uh you know part for the course. That's kind of that's course. That's kind of that's course. That's kind of that's fascinating. I had no idea. Where did fascinating. I had no idea. Where did fascinating. I had no idea. Where did you come you come across that one? you come you come across that one? you come you come across that one? >> I read it a long time ago. Japanese >> I read it a long time ago. Japanese >> I read it a long time ago. Japanese culture to me has always been very culture to me has always been very culture to me has always been very interesting. That's what Doug and I have interesting. That's what Doug and I have interesting. That's what Doug and I have talked about this before. talked about this before. talked about this before. >> Did you know that one Doug? >> Did you know that one Doug? >> Did you know that one Doug? >> I'd heard it before. Yeah. >> I'd heard it before. Yeah. >> I'd heard it before. Yeah. >> Oh, so you did? Okay. >> Oh, so you did? Okay. >> Oh, so you did? Okay. >> So Doug and I have talked about this >> So Doug and I have talked about this >> So Doug and I have talked about this before cuz when we started Maps, which before cuz when we started Maps, which before cuz when we started Maps, which we still haven't done, we said there was we still haven't done, we said there was we still haven't done, we said there was a number. We said once we hit this a number. We said once we hit this a number. We said once we hit this number, we're going to go to [ __ ] We number, we're going to go to [ __ ] We number, we're going to go to [ __ ] We never did. We never went to Japan. But never did. We never went to Japan. But never did. We never went to Japan. But I've always wanted I've always wanted I've always wanted >> I'm sure you passed that number way >> I'm sure you passed that number way >> I'm sure you passed that number way past. past. past. >> Oh, yeah. A long time ago. >> Oh, yeah. A long time ago. >> Oh, yeah. A long time ago. >> Do you remember? Do you guys remember >> Do you remember? Do you guys remember >> Do you remember? Do you guys remember what the number was? what the number was? what the number was? >> Yeah, I do. I'll tell you off air. >> Yeah, I do. I'll tell you off air. >> Yeah, I do. I'll tell you off air. >> Oh no. Oh yeah. >> Oh no. Oh yeah. >> Oh no. Oh yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. We passed it >> Yeah. Yeah. We passed it >> Yeah. Yeah. We passed it >> of course month two. >> of course month two. >> of course month two. >> No. No. When we launched. >> No. No. When we launched. >> No. No. When we launched. >> That's hilarious. >> That's hilarious. >> That's hilarious. >> Yeah. But it but >> Yeah. But it but >> Yeah. But it but >> I'm still waiting. No. >> I'm still waiting. No. >> I'm still waiting. No. >> I want Japan has always been an >> I want Japan has always been an >> I want Japan has always been an interesting culture to me because I did interesting culture to me because I did interesting culture to me because I did judo. Uh I find it fascinating. I love judo. Uh I find it fascinating. I love judo. Uh I find it fascinating. I love the culture. I love how polite uh they the culture. I love how polite uh they the culture. I love how polite uh they are watch. are watch. are watch. >> I love the uh I think the food is >> I love the uh I think the food is >> I love the uh I think the food is interesting. I've always wanted to go to interesting. I've always wanted to go to interesting. I've always wanted to go to sumo match. I want to go to judo. You sumo match. I want to go to judo. You sumo match. I want to go to judo. You know know know >> you've done you. Did you you know the >> you've done you. Did you you know the >> you've done you. Did you you know the sumo match when they come over here is sumo match when they come over here is sumo match when they come over here is really cool. I know it's obviously not, really cool. I know it's obviously not, really cool. I know it's obviously not, you know, there or whatever like that, you know, there or whatever like that, you know, there or whatever like that, but it's that was like really cool. but it's that was like really cool. but it's that was like really cool. >> Sumo wrestlers over there are like >> Sumo wrestlers over there are like >> Sumo wrestlers over there are like >> a sumo match over here. >> a sumo match over here. >> a sumo match over here. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> Yeah, that's cool. >> Major celebrities, huh? >> Major celebrities, huh? >> Major celebrities, huh? >> They're major celebrities over there and >> They're major celebrities over there and >> They're major celebrities over there and I think they have like a big I think they have like a big I think they have like a big celebration. We turned 40 if I'm not celebration. We turned 40 if I'm not celebration. We turned 40 if I'm not mistaken. It's like a huge birthday. mistaken. It's like a huge birthday. mistaken. It's like a huge birthday. >> It's like crazy to watch the amount of >> It's like crazy to watch the amount of >> It's like crazy to watch the amount of food they can consume. Yeah. food they can consume. Yeah. food they can consume. Yeah. >> In one sitting. >> In one sitting. >> In one sitting. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Where'd you >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Where'd you >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Where'd you see that? see that? see that? >> I've seen the videos. I don't know. >> I've seen the videos. I don't know. >> I've seen the videos. I don't know. >> Yeah, that's a lot. That's awesome. >> Yeah, that's a lot. That's awesome. >> Yeah, that's a lot. That's awesome. Thanks a lot. What does it say about us Thanks a lot. What does it say about us Thanks a lot. What does it say about us every time we we we do this all the every time we we we do this all the every time we we we do this all the time? you know that you you and Doug time? you know that you you and Doug time? you know that you you and Doug started maybe it's your fault. started maybe it's your fault. started maybe it's your fault. >> Well, there are there's been a lot of >> Well, there are there's been a lot of >> Well, there are there's been a lot of milestones that we said we were going to milestones that we said we were going to milestones that we said we were going to do a thing. do a thing. do a thing. >> Oh, we just bypass a >> Oh, we just bypass a >> Oh, we just bypass a >> Yeah, I don't think we've ever followed >> Yeah, I don't think we've ever followed >> Yeah, I don't think we've ever followed through. through. through. >> I don't think I've written any of these >> I don't think I've written any of these >> I don't think I've written any of these down. down. down. >> I think some of them are good to skip. >> I think some of them are good to skip. >> I think some of them are good to skip. >> Well, there's a couple I'm glad we >> Well, there's a couple I'm glad we >> Well, there's a couple I'm glad we didn't go any further. Yeah, there's a didn't go any further. Yeah, there's a didn't go any further. Yeah, there's a couple crazy ones. We won't talk about couple crazy ones. We won't talk about couple crazy ones. We won't talk about it. Maybe that's probably why we didn't it. Maybe that's probably why we didn't it. Maybe that's probably why we didn't do those those two those. do those those two those. do those those two those. >> But there's been a lot there's been a >> But there's been a lot there's been a >> But there's been a lot there's been a lot of other ones beside that like of lot of other ones beside that like of lot of other ones beside that like of traveling somewhere or buy this thing or traveling somewhere or buy this thing or traveling somewhere or buy this thing or do a like we've we've set a lot of do a like we've we've set a lot of do a like we've we've set a lot of milestones and we've I don't think we've milestones and we've I don't think we've milestones and we've I don't think we've done any of them. None of them. So what done any of them. None of them. So what done any of them. None of them. So what does that say? does that say? does that say? >> We're busy. >> We're busy. >> We're busy. >> I think we're just we just keep going, >> I think we're just we just keep going, >> I think we're just we just keep going, keep moving. keep moving. keep moving. >> Yeah. A trip to Japan would take We'd >> Yeah. A trip to Japan would take We'd >> Yeah. A trip to Japan would take We'd have to go for at least two weeks. have to go for at least two weeks. have to go for at least two weeks. That's why That's why That's why >> I think 10 days you can do a lot. >> I think 10 days you can do a lot. >> I think 10 days you can do a lot. >> 10 days. See? >> 10 days. See? >> 10 days. See? >> Have you done that? >> Have you done that? >> Have you done that? >> I have. You've done Singapore. >> I have. You've done Singapore. >> I have. You've done Singapore. >> Long long time ago. >> Long long time ago. >> Long long time ago. >> You know, there's one of us in here that >> You know, there's one of us in here that >> You know, there's one of us in here that would stop the Japanese trip because it would stop the Japanese trip because it would stop the Japanese trip because it takes too long away from the business. takes too long away from the business. takes too long away from the business. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Pretty sure everybody else would be okay >> Pretty sure everybody else would be okay >> Pretty sure everybody else would be okay with that. with that. with that. >> I think we could work 10 days out. >> I think we could work 10 days out. >> I think we could work 10 days out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's one of us. >> There's one of us. >> There's one of us. >> One of us has a problem. >> One of us has a problem. >> One of us has a problem. >> Every time I take a day off, this guy, >> Every time I take a day off, this guy, >> Every time I take a day off, this guy, >> hey, speaking of eating a lot, dude, I >> hey, speaking of eating a lot, dude, I >> hey, speaking of eating a lot, dude, I had to go up a size in Vori pants. had to go up a size in Vori pants. had to go up a size in Vori pants. >> Oh, bro. So, are you up to XXL's now? >> Oh, bro. So, are you up to XXL's now? >> Oh, bro. So, are you up to XXL's now? >> No, the pants. Pants. So, I I wear the >> No, the pants. Pants. So, I I wear the >> No, the pants. Pants. So, I I wear the double XL. double XL. double XL. >> Not these. Not these. The um uh Which >> Not these. Not these. The um uh Which >> Not these. Not these. The um uh Which ones are the ones that look like slacks? ones are the ones that look like slacks? ones are the ones that look like slacks? Is that Is that what you're wearing? Is that Is that what you're wearing? Is that Is that what you're wearing? >> Meta. Meta. That's what I'm wearing. >> Meta. Meta. That's what I'm wearing. >> Meta. Meta. That's what I'm wearing. >> Love Meta. I usually wear 34 and it fits >> Love Meta. I usually wear 34 and it fits >> Love Meta. I usually wear 34 and it fits my waist, but um my wife's been making my waist, but um my wife's been making my waist, but um my wife's been making fun of me cuz they're too tight around fun of me cuz they're too tight around fun of me cuz they're too tight around my legs. my legs. my legs. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I went and got 36s. So, we'll see >> So, I went and got 36s. So, we'll see >> So, I went and got 36s. So, we'll see how they legs are a little tight how they legs are a little tight how they legs are a little tight before instead of shut before instead of shut before instead of shut >> get smaller. >> get smaller. >> get smaller. >> So, that cardio is really uh coming into >> So, that cardio is really uh coming into >> So, that cardio is really uh coming into >> Yes. How's those cardio weeks going? >> Yes. How's those cardio weeks going? >> Yes. How's those cardio weeks going? It's only Hey, I just started it, you It's only Hey, I just started it, you It's only Hey, I just started it, you guys. Give it some time. guys. Give it some time. guys. Give it some time. >> This is This is this week again, right? >> This is This is this week again, right? >> This is This is this week again, right? >> Yeah. So, last week, so I'll just be >> Yeah. So, last week, so I'll just be >> Yeah. So, last week, so I'll just be straight up. So, this is just it's it's straight up. So, this is just it's it's straight up. So, this is just it's it's a obviously a struggle. It's a small a obviously a struggle. It's a small a obviously a struggle. It's a small step forward for me, step forward for me, step forward for me, >> but there's, you know, on the cardio >> but there's, you know, on the cardio >> but there's, you know, on the cardio weeks, I'll still touch the weights a weeks, I'll still touch the weights a weeks, I'll still touch the weights a tiny bit because you still haven't done tiny bit because you still haven't done tiny bit because you still haven't done that. that. that. >> Just a tiny bit, just a tiny bit. >> Just a tiny bit, just a tiny bit. >> Just a tiny bit, just a tiny bit. >> Jessica, dude, come on. This guy, shame >> Jessica, dude, come on. This guy, shame >> Jessica, dude, come on. This guy, shame him way more. him way more. him way more. >> No, no, no, no. Listen, uh, >> No, no, no, no. Listen, uh, >> No, no, no, no. Listen, uh, >> you got like ankle weights. >> you got like ankle weights. >> you got like ankle weights. >> No, I'll do like a I'll do like a couple >> No, I'll do like a I'll do like a couple >> No, I'll do like a I'll do like a couple sets and hilarious. sets and hilarious. sets and hilarious. >> I know. I know. Okay. It sucks. But >> I know. I know. Okay. It sucks. But >> I know. I know. Okay. It sucks. But anyway, uh I'm I'm just uh just cardio. anyway, uh I'm I'm just uh just cardio. anyway, uh I'm I'm just uh just cardio. Just cardio. And then the other week is Just cardio. And then the other week is Just cardio. And then the other week is just uh strength training. It's actually just uh strength training. It's actually just uh strength training. It's actually making the strength train weeks really making the strength train weeks really making the strength train weeks really enjoyable cuz I miss it. enjoyable cuz I miss it. enjoyable cuz I miss it. >> And I don't not like walking on the >> And I don't not like walking on the >> And I don't not like walking on the treadmill. I love listening to books. treadmill. I love listening to books. treadmill. I love listening to books. Really enjoy listening to books. Really enjoy listening to books. Really enjoy listening to books. >> Well, the part to me that's interesting >> Well, the part to me that's interesting >> Well, the part to me that's interesting to me is that you allow yourself to to me is that you allow yourself to to me is that you allow yourself to still do this little thing where it's still do this little thing where it's still do this little thing where it's just like why not just rip the band-aid just like why not just rip the band-aid just like why not just rip the band-aid all the way off? Um, I'm not all the way off? Um, I'm not all the way off? Um, I'm not >> I mean, wouldn't that wouldn't that be >> I mean, wouldn't that wouldn't that be >> I mean, wouldn't that wouldn't that be the part that the part that the part that >> sounds so logical? >> sounds so logical? >> sounds so logical? >> I know. I know. But I mean, like that >> I know. I know. But I mean, like that >> I know. I know. But I mean, like that would wouldn't that be what you would at would wouldn't that be what you would at would wouldn't that be what you would at least uh least uh least uh >> coach someone to do? >> coach someone to do? >> coach someone to do? >> No, no, no, no. I know you >> No, no, no, no. I know you >> No, no, no, no. I know you >> I'll just keep I'll just keep >> I'll just keep I'll just keep >> I'll just keep I'll just keep >> But I mean like uh so how do you how do >> But I mean like uh so how do you how do >> But I mean like uh so how do you how do you do this? So when I I I set goals you do this? So when I I I set goals you do this? So when I I I set goals whether nutrition, exercise goals, whether nutrition, exercise goals, whether nutrition, exercise goals, whatever. Like, so in my in my head and whatever. Like, so in my in my head and whatever. Like, so in my in my head and and I'm just curious to how you frame it and I'm just curious to how you frame it and I'm just curious to how you frame it for yourself. Like it's not a successful for yourself. Like it's not a successful for yourself. Like it's not a successful weekend or week until I've done that. weekend or week until I've done that. weekend or week until I've done that. Until I've proven I can just do cardio, Until I've proven I can just do cardio, Until I've proven I can just do cardio, no weight, nothing like that. Do you say no weight, nothing like that. Do you say no weight, nothing like that. Do you say that to yourself or are you more like that to yourself or are you more like that to yourself or are you more like like this is I'm easing my way into this like this is I'm easing my way into this like this is I'm easing my way into this training? That's a good job. And like so training? That's a good job. And like so training? That's a good job. And like so is this like how do you what's the is this like how do you what's the is this like how do you what's the self-t talk self-t talk self-t talk >> through that process? I want I want to >> through that process? I want I want to >> through that process? I want I want to be able to uh do it in a way. I'm not be able to uh do it in a way. I'm not be able to uh do it in a way. I'm not listen here's I'm trying I'm I'm taking listen here's I'm trying I'm I'm taking listen here's I'm trying I'm I'm taking small steps because I think if I take small steps because I think if I take small steps because I think if I take too big which is actually still a big too big which is actually still a big too big which is actually still a big step for me. Okay. So step for me. Okay. So step for me. Okay. So >> well obviously >> well obviously >> well obviously >> just doing a few sets uh you know a few >> just doing a few sets uh you know a few >> just doing a few sets uh you know a few times a week. times a week. times a week. >> Has it been scaling down though? >> Has it been scaling down though? >> Has it been scaling down though? >> Way down because on the weeks I do >> Way down because on the weeks I do >> Way down because on the weeks I do cardio I'll do maybe for the whole week cardio I'll do maybe for the whole week cardio I'll do maybe for the whole week a grand total of a grand total of a grand total of >> six sets. That's that's not even one >> six sets. That's that's not even one >> six sets. That's that's not even one workout for me. That's like a quarter of workout for me. That's like a quarter of workout for me. That's like a quarter of a workout normally. So, it's still a big a workout normally. So, it's still a big a workout normally. So, it's still a big scale down and it's early. I'm early in scale down and it's early. I'm early in scale down and it's early. I'm early in it. it. it. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, I'm just taking it one little step >> So, I'm just taking it one little step >> So, I'm just taking it one little step at a time because um I think I know this at a time because um I think I know this at a time because um I think I know this I know this about myself. If I go too I know this about myself. If I go too I know this about myself. If I go too far, far, far, >> I'll I'll revert back and bounce back. >> I'll I'll revert back and bounce back. >> I'll I'll revert back and bounce back. >> So, I mean, so so again, so is that like >> So, I mean, so so again, so is that like >> So, I mean, so so again, so is that like the the goal? Like, okay, I'm I'm still the the goal? Like, okay, I'm I'm still the the goal? Like, okay, I'm I'm still progressing. Next week, maybe I'll try progressing. Next week, maybe I'll try progressing. Next week, maybe I'll try even less sets or no sets. Like, are you even less sets or no sets. Like, are you even less sets or no sets. Like, are you saying that to yourself? Yeah. What I'm saying that to yourself? Yeah. What I'm saying that to yourself? Yeah. What I'm trying what I'm doing is I'm actually uh trying what I'm doing is I'm actually uh trying what I'm doing is I'm actually uh uh really starting to enjoy the weeks uh really starting to enjoy the weeks uh really starting to enjoy the weeks that I don't lift that much and just that I don't lift that much and just that I don't lift that much and just listen to a book. And so I think the listen to a book. And so I think the listen to a book. And so I think the more I do that, the more I enjoy it, more I do that, the more I enjoy it, more I do that, the more I enjoy it, then the less I should be able to do is then the less I should be able to do is then the less I should be able to do is what I think. But we'll see, dude. We'll what I think. But we'll see, dude. We'll what I think. But we'll see, dude. We'll see. It's a It's a son of a gun, man. see. It's a It's a son of a gun, man. see. It's a It's a son of a gun, man. It's a It's a Everybody has their thing. It's a It's a Everybody has their thing. It's a It's a Everybody has their thing. This is mine. This is mine. This is mine. >> This is mine, dude. >> This is mine, dude. >> This is mine, dude. >> Yeah. No, >> Yeah. No, >> Yeah. No, >> it's really making me I'll tell you >> it's really making me I'll tell you >> it's really making me I'll tell you what, dude. It makes me so empathetic to what, dude. It makes me so empathetic to what, dude. It makes me so empathetic to when we have callers who have challenges when we have callers who have challenges when we have callers who have challenges around nutrition and workouts. It's around nutrition and workouts. It's around nutrition and workouts. It's like, man, I get it, dude. It's it's a like, man, I get it, dude. It's it's a like, man, I get it, dude. It's it's a weird strange Everybody has their thing. weird strange Everybody has their thing. weird strange Everybody has their thing. Some people it's, you know, things that Some people it's, you know, things that Some people it's, you know, things that like real obvious alcohol, drugs, like real obvious alcohol, drugs, like real obvious alcohol, drugs, whatever. Uh, you know, fitness is a whatever. Uh, you know, fitness is a whatever. Uh, you know, fitness is a good thing. So, it could be even harder good thing. So, it could be even harder good thing. So, it could be even harder to tackle because it's a it's supposed to tackle because it's a it's supposed to tackle because it's a it's supposed to be a good thing, right? Yeah. to be a good thing, right? Yeah. to be a good thing, right? Yeah. >> It's like a work addiction. Work is a >> It's like a work addiction. Work is a >> It's like a work addiction. Work is a good thing. What do you mean I should? good thing. What do you mean I should? good thing. What do you mean I should? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, but I totally get it. So when I talk >> So, but I totally get it. So when I talk >> So, but I totally get it. So when I talk to people, I'm like, "All right." Um, to people, I'm like, "All right." Um, to people, I'm like, "All right." Um, and I I've been coaching people like and I I've been coaching people like and I I've been coaching people like this for a long time, but we'll take one this for a long time, but we'll take one this for a long time, but we'll take one little step at a time little step at a time little step at a time >> because you push too hard, either >> because you push too hard, either >> because you push too hard, either yourself or someone else, you just go yourself or someone else, you just go yourself or someone else, you just go the opposite. the opposite. the opposite. >> Now, do you uh do you consider this um >> Now, do you uh do you consider this um >> Now, do you uh do you consider this um connected also with the nutrition piece? connected also with the nutrition piece? connected also with the nutrition piece? Are you are you handling those Are you are you handling those Are you are you handling those separately? Are you trying to handle separately? Are you trying to handle separately? Are you trying to handle those at the same time? Like, those at the same time? Like, those at the same time? Like, >> oh, you know, diet has never been a huge >> oh, you know, diet has never been a huge >> oh, you know, diet has never been a huge big thing. I don't I'm not stuff so I'm big thing. I don't I'm not stuff so I'm big thing. I don't I'm not stuff so I'm not stuffing myself. So I'm not like not stuffing myself. So I'm not like not stuffing myself. So I'm not like trying to eat a ton of food. I just have trying to eat a ton of food. I just have trying to eat a ton of food. I just have a high appetite. So that's not an issue. a high appetite. So that's not an issue. a high appetite. So that's not an issue. That's not going to be a problem uh for That's not going to be a problem uh for That's not going to be a problem uh for me. It's the workout. The the big thing me. It's the workout. The the big thing me. It's the workout. The the big thing is the workout. is the workout. is the workout. >> It's the lifting. You know, I got to go >> It's the lifting. You know, I got to go >> It's the lifting. You know, I got to go lift. I got to get a pump. lift. I got to get a pump. lift. I got to get a pump. >> Okay. So you're not trying to like, you >> Okay. So you're not trying to like, you >> Okay. So you're not trying to like, you know what, I need to really also know what, I need to really also know what, I need to really also probably cut back on some calories, too. probably cut back on some calories, too. probably cut back on some calories, too. >> No, I mean I not really that's not >> No, I mean I not really that's not >> No, I mean I not really that's not really a big thing for me. It's it's the really a big thing for me. It's it's the really a big thing for me. It's it's the workouts for sure. I could change the workouts for sure. I could change the workouts for sure. I could change the diet all day long. You know what'll diet all day long. You know what'll diet all day long. You know what'll happen if I change the diet? I'll just happen if I change the diet? I'll just happen if I change the diet? I'll just try to get shredded. try to get shredded. try to get shredded. >> Well, I mean, I almost feel like if you >> Well, I mean, I almost feel like if you >> Well, I mean, I almost feel like if you don't, you're you're just going to keep don't, you're you're just going to keep don't, you're you're just going to keep because this break, I don't think, is because this break, I don't think, is because this break, I don't think, is going to revert in any less muscle at going to revert in any less muscle at going to revert in any less muscle at all. I think you're going to just get all. I think you're going to just get all. I think you're going to just get more muscle if you keep your eating the more muscle if you keep your eating the more muscle if you keep your eating the way it's eating. You're eating right now way it's eating. You're eating right now way it's eating. You're eating right now and you scale back on that. You're just and you scale back on that. You're just and you scale back on that. You're just getting getting getting >> Well, here's the deal. If I do this to >> Well, here's the deal. If I do this to >> Well, here's the deal. If I do this to try to get smaller, try to get smaller, try to get smaller, >> it's not going to work. I have to I have >> it's not going to work. I have to I have >> it's not going to work. I have to I have to do this to to break the cycle and to do this to to break the cycle and to do this to to break the cycle and enjoy it. And then the side effect will enjoy it. And then the side effect will enjoy it. And then the side effect will probably be less muscle. But if I'm probably be less muscle. But if I'm probably be less muscle. But if I'm trying to force this result, uh I I trying to force this result, uh I I trying to force this result, uh I I could could could >> That's where I That's where I don't >> That's where I That's where I don't >> That's where I That's where I don't agree. I think you're gonna Well, it's I agree. I think you're gonna Well, it's I agree. I think you're gonna Well, it's I think you're gonna build more muscle. think you're gonna build more muscle. think you're gonna build more muscle. >> I mean, okay. So, it's like somebody uh >> I mean, okay. So, it's like somebody uh >> I mean, okay. So, it's like somebody uh who's like, um I really want to um who's like, um I really want to um who's like, um I really want to um >> you know, I really want to get in shape >> you know, I really want to get in shape >> you know, I really want to get in shape and what do we you know, I'm really and what do we you know, I'm really and what do we you know, I'm really concerned about the way I look and we concerned about the way I look and we concerned about the way I look and we just say, "Look, just just try to chase just say, "Look, just just try to chase just say, "Look, just just try to chase performance and then let's see how you performance and then let's see how you performance and then let's see how you look." look." look." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, if I just go and and try to kind of >> So, if I just go and and try to kind of >> So, if I just go and and try to kind of break the cycle, break the addiction a break the cycle, break the addiction a break the cycle, break the addiction a little bit, break the connection. little bit, break the connection. little bit, break the connection. >> Yeah. Then however I look is however I >> Yeah. Then however I look is however I >> Yeah. Then however I look is however I look. But if I'm like I'm going to make look. But if I'm like I'm going to make look. But if I'm like I'm going to make myself lose muscle, you know how easily myself lose muscle, you know how easily myself lose muscle, you know how easily I could twist that into getting I could twist that into getting I could twist that into getting shredded, shredded, shredded, >> then it becomes a like I'm going to get >> then it becomes a like I'm going to get >> then it becomes a like I'm going to get down to 4% body fat type of thing. Yeah. down to 4% body fat type of thing. Yeah. down to 4% body fat type of thing. Yeah. >> So, and I know myself. >> So, and I know myself. >> So, and I know myself. >> Yeah. It's interesting. >> Yeah. It's interesting. >> Yeah. It's interesting. >> I know. Pain in the butt. >> I know. Pain in the butt. >> I know. Pain in the butt. >> Well, we have uh today's a big day, too. >> Well, we have uh today's a big day, too. >> Well, we have uh today's a big day, too. I get uh I get Karen's DEXA scan since I get uh I get Karen's DEXA scan since I get uh I get Karen's DEXA scan since we started. So, yeah. Today. we started. So, yeah. Today. we started. So, yeah. Today. >> So, I'm really interested. >> So, I'm really interested. >> So, I'm really interested. >> What's your What's your What do you >> What's your What's your What do you >> What's your What's your What do you think? think? think? >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> her calories, she's increased them quite >> her calories, she's increased them quite >> her calories, she's increased them quite a bit. a bit. a bit. >> Oh, yeah. A lot. So, this is what's this >> Oh, yeah. A lot. So, this is what's this >> Oh, yeah. A lot. So, this is what's this is what will um I wish that I was out is what will um I wish that I was out is what will um I wish that I was out there with her right now because I'd there with her right now because I'd there with her right now because I'd want to communicate to her and so she'll want to communicate to her and so she'll want to communicate to her and so she'll get to listen to this afterwards no get to listen to this afterwards no get to listen to this afterwards no matter what is no matter what the matter what is no matter what the matter what is no matter what the results are, I'm I'm already happy with results are, I'm I'm already happy with results are, I'm I'm already happy with where we're at. where we're at. where we're at. >> So, I'm I'm I'm praying that they come >> So, I'm I'm I'm praying that they come >> So, I'm I'm I'm praying that they come back and they don't alarm her in any back and they don't alarm her in any back and they don't alarm her in any way, right? because um no matter what I way, right? because um no matter what I way, right? because um no matter what I I knew I wanted to to go here and uh cuz I knew I wanted to to go here and uh cuz I knew I wanted to to go here and uh cuz and and last week was a tough week uh and and last week was a tough week uh and and last week was a tough week uh heading into this week and you know one heading into this week and you know one heading into this week and you know one of the things that we you know we saw a of the things that we you know we saw a of the things that we you know we saw a new number on the scale again we that new number on the scale again we that new number on the scale again we that we've never seen and one of the things I we've never seen and one of the things I we've never seen and one of the things I I let her know I said hey just so you I let her know I said hey just so you I let her know I said hey just so you know um you know we're heading the DEXA know um you know we're heading the DEXA know um you know we're heading the DEXA I actually had already before when we I actually had already before when we I actually had already before when we first started this I had a number in my first started this I had a number in my first started this I had a number in my head I wanted to push you all the way up head I wanted to push you all the way up head I wanted to push you all the way up to and you're still under that and So, to and you're still under that and So, to and you're still under that and So, and she was like, "Oh, wow. Really?" And and she was like, "Oh, wow. Really?" And and she was like, "Oh, wow. Really?" And I'm like, "Yeah." I said, "So, you're I'm like, "Yeah." I said, "So, you're I'm like, "Yeah." I said, "So, you're doing great." Like, you're you're doing great." Like, you're you're doing great." Like, you're you're >> she's inspiring me, dude. >> she's inspiring me, dude. >> she's inspiring me, dude. >> Yeah. She's she's been very courageous. >> Yeah. She's she's been very courageous. >> Yeah. She's she's been very courageous. >> I you know, I've been so, you know, >> I you know, I've been so, you know, >> I you know, I've been so, you know, impressed with all the things that she's impressed with all the things that she's impressed with all the things that she's juggling right now, too. We have a she juggling right now, too. We have a she juggling right now, too. We have a she does a lot for the business and she's does a lot for the business and she's does a lot for the business and she's got a lot of stuff going on and and you got a lot of stuff going on and and you got a lot of stuff going on and and you know moving all the way across the know moving all the way across the know moving all the way across the country to be over here and then to also country to be over here and then to also country to be over here and then to also be doing this is just like she's very be doing this is just like she's very be doing this is just like she's very strong very very strong and tough and we strong very very strong and tough and we strong very very strong and tough and we have not I anticipated a lot more um have not I anticipated a lot more um have not I anticipated a lot more um hard conversations that we would have to hard conversations that we would have to hard conversations that we would have to have and kind of setbacks and like okay have and kind of setbacks and like okay have and kind of setbacks and like okay like let's get back on the horse type of like let's get back on the horse type of like let's get back on the horse type of >> she's been like whatever I tell her >> she's been like whatever I tell her >> she's been like whatever I tell her she's she's she's >> and I've really and I've continued like >> and I've really and I've continued like >> and I've really and I've continued like I just keep challenging her, challenging I just keep challenging her, challenging I just keep challenging her, challenging her and I keep waiting for her to like her and I keep waiting for her to like her and I keep waiting for her to like have that kind of like have that kind of like have that kind of like >> okay it's okay let's we'll go go but >> okay it's okay let's we'll go go but >> okay it's okay let's we'll go go but she's been she's been she's been >> she looks so healthy too >> she looks so healthy too >> she looks so healthy too >> she looks so good >> she looks so good >> she looks so good >> very fit very healthy >> very fit very healthy >> very fit very healthy >> she looks so good right now and >> she looks so good right now and >> she looks so good right now and everybody keeps coming up and telling me everybody keeps coming up and telling me everybody keeps coming up and telling me I'm like you should tell her that cuz I I'm like you should tell her that cuz I I'm like you should tell her that cuz I don't know if you guys are telling her don't know if you guys are telling her don't know if you guys are telling her that cuz I think so too that cuz I think so too that cuz I think so too >> she doesn't need to hear that >> she doesn't need to hear that >> she doesn't need to hear that >> I'm trying not to say anything about her >> I'm trying not to say anything about her >> I'm trying not to say anything about her appearance cuz I know other people are appearance cuz I know other people are appearance cuz I know other people are and I don't want to add more focus on and I don't want to add more focus on and I don't want to add more focus on you know how she looks but I see that you know how she looks but I see that you know how she looks but I see that she's strong she's strong she's strong >> that's you know it's >> that's you know it's >> that's you know it's >> and she's inspiring me that's what I'm >> and she's inspiring me that's what I'm >> and she's inspiring me that's what I'm communicating to her because really uh communicating to her because really uh communicating to her because really uh she was one of the you know there's a she was one of the you know there's a she was one of the you know there's a lot of things that have inspired me but lot of things that have inspired me but lot of things that have inspired me but to see her do that is like okay I got to to see her do that is like okay I got to to see her do that is like okay I got to I got to I got to tackle this. I got to I got to tackle this. I got to I got to tackle this. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm so I'm >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm so I'm >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm so I'm curious. So my my my guess is I mean I curious. So my my my guess is I mean I curious. So my my my guess is I mean I um you know I I hope we we put on a um you know I I hope we we put on a um you know I I hope we we put on a solid four maybe five pounds of muscle solid four maybe five pounds of muscle solid four maybe five pounds of muscle you know would be really would be really you know would be really would be really you know would be really would be really nice. nice. nice. >> How long? >> How long? >> How long? >> Uh it's been what what would you what >> Uh it's been what what would you what >> Uh it's been what what would you what would you say our last? would you say our last? would you say our last? >> I mean I'll know when I see the dates >> I mean I'll know when I see the dates >> I mean I'll know when I see the dates but I don't know. 45 days. but I don't know. 45 days. but I don't know. 45 days. >> Um, that sounds about right. >> Um, that sounds about right. >> Um, that sounds about right. >> Sounds about right. Right. >> Sounds about right. Right. >> Sounds about right. Right. >> It sounds we're we're around there. >> It sounds we're we're around there. >> It sounds we're we're around there. >> Man, that'd be great. >> Man, that'd be great. >> Man, that'd be great. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think uh I think so. I >> Yeah. Yeah, I think uh I think so. I >> Yeah. Yeah, I think uh I think so. I mean, you got to know right away that mean, you got to know right away that mean, you got to know right away that there's I mean, you jumped the calories there's I mean, you jumped the calories there's I mean, you jumped the calories we've jumped. Uh there's a lot of water we've jumped. Uh there's a lot of water we've jumped. Uh there's a lot of water going on right now, right? So, with with going on right now, right? So, with with going on right now, right? So, with with this actual scale, um but yeah, I I this actual scale, um but yeah, I I this actual scale, um but yeah, I I think I think we could have put four think I think we could have put four think I think we could have put four pounds of muscle on by. I mean, she's pounds of muscle on by. I mean, she's pounds of muscle on by. I mean, she's hit PR after PR after PR hit PR after PR after PR hit PR after PR after PR >> and so so and and you know, so this is >> and so so and and you know, so this is >> and so so and and you know, so this is good to talk about because good to talk about because good to talk about because >> you know what if it didn't come back >> you know what if it didn't come back >> you know what if it didn't come back that what if it doesn't come back? We've that what if it doesn't come back? We've that what if it doesn't come back? We've only put one pound of muscle on or only put one pound of muscle on or only put one pound of muscle on or something. something. something. >> She still has to go this direction. >> She still has to go this direction. >> She still has to go this direction. >> Right. Exactly. And we talk about this >> Right. Exactly. And we talk about this >> Right. Exactly. And we talk about this on the show a lot too cuz it it comes in on the show a lot too cuz it it comes in on the show a lot too cuz it it comes in these weird waves like sometimes uh it's these weird waves like sometimes uh it's these weird waves like sometimes uh it's then all of a sudden two weeks will go then all of a sudden two weeks will go then all of a sudden two weeks will go by and she'll put on four or five by and she'll put on four or five by and she'll put on four or five pounds. It's not like you add like this pounds. It's not like you add like this pounds. It's not like you add like this perfect there's this perfect perfect there's this perfect perfect there's this perfect mathematical equation of like being a mathematical equation of like being a mathematical equation of like being a calorie surplus per pound every 3 days calorie surplus per pound every 3 days calorie surplus per pound every 3 days or whatever it is. or whatever it is. or whatever it is. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and she but we know >> Yeah. Yeah. And and she but we know >> Yeah. Yeah. And and she but we know we're doing the right things cuz she's we're doing the right things cuz she's we're doing the right things cuz she's hitting PR. She's strong in her hitting PR. She's strong in her hitting PR. She's strong in her workouts. She's like muscle bellies are workouts. She's like muscle bellies are workouts. She's like muscle bellies are getting filled out. Like all is good. getting filled out. Like all is good. getting filled out. Like all is good. But I hope for the sake uh for the the But I hope for the sake uh for the the But I hope for the sake uh for the the the psychological part as she's going the psychological part as she's going the psychological part as she's going building and doing this that she gets to building and doing this that she gets to building and doing this that she gets to see great results. see great results. see great results. >> Did she get her hormones uh tested? I I >> Did she get her hormones uh tested? I I >> Did she get her hormones uh tested? I I would be surprised uh if her hormones would be surprised uh if her hormones would be surprised uh if her hormones didn't just get more optimized from didn't just get more optimized from didn't just get more optimized from feeding herself. feeding herself. feeding herself. >> You know what? I'll ask her the last >> You know what? I'll ask her the last >> You know what? I'll ask her the last time she did blood work. We didn't do time she did blood work. We didn't do time she did blood work. We didn't do blood work together. Um, so, but that blood work together. Um, so, but that blood work together. Um, so, but that God, I wish I uh God, I wish I uh God, I wish I uh >> because hormones are so strongly >> because hormones are so strongly >> because hormones are so strongly affected by uh if you're constantly affected by uh if you're constantly affected by uh if you're constantly trying to eat minimal or you know in in trying to eat minimal or you know in in trying to eat minimal or you know in in a deficit that'll make your hormones not a deficit that'll make your hormones not a deficit that'll make your hormones not look look look >> well even without seeing the blood work. >> well even without seeing the blood work. >> well even without seeing the blood work. I think that's a testament to why we're I think that's a testament to why we're I think that's a testament to why we're hitting PRs and everything right there. hitting PRs and everything right there. hitting PRs and everything right there. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> You know what I'm saying? >> You know what I'm saying? >> You know what I'm saying? >> That's part of it. >> That's part of it. >> That's part of it. >> Yeah. So part of it is like >> Yeah. So part of it is like >> Yeah. So part of it is like >> you ain't going to build a bunch of m >> you ain't going to build a bunch of m >> you ain't going to build a bunch of m get really strong and have your hormone get really strong and have your hormone get really strong and have your hormone profile get worse. It almost always is profile get worse. It almost always is profile get worse. It almost always is getting better. getting better. getting better. >> Which again back to circling back like >> Which again back to circling back like >> Which again back to circling back like what could happen is we don't see as what could happen is we don't see as what could happen is we don't see as much muscle as I would have liked of much muscle as I would have liked of much muscle as I would have liked of which would would mean that the scale is which would would mean that the scale is which would would mean that the scale is going to read higher body fat percentage going to read higher body fat percentage going to read higher body fat percentage and things like that that would would and things like that that would would and things like that that would would normally spin somebody out. And why I'm normally spin somebody out. And why I'm normally spin somebody out. And why I'm saying is like that still wouldn't even saying is like that still wouldn't even saying is like that still wouldn't even spin me out as a coach. It's that spin me out as a coach. It's that spin me out as a coach. It's that >> these things are starting to organize >> these things are starting to organize >> these things are starting to organize and get better. And the the even more and get better. And the the even more and get better. And the the even more positive results could end up piling on positive results could end up piling on positive results could end up piling on down the road. Which just highlights down the road. Which just highlights down the road. Which just highlights again how this happens to people again how this happens to people again how this happens to people sometimes where they can get really sometimes where they can get really sometimes where they can get really discouraged is like, you know, you're discouraged is like, you know, you're discouraged is like, you know, you're doing the work, you're putting it in, doing the work, you're putting it in, doing the work, you're putting it in, >> your your body's just starting to get >> your your body's just starting to get >> your your body's just starting to get healthy, and then you go test again to healthy, and then you go test again to healthy, and then you go test again to see where you're at, and then you don't see where you're at, and then you don't see where you're at, and then you don't see the results that you want, and see the results that you want, and see the results that you want, and you're like, oh, f this. It's not you're like, oh, f this. It's not you're like, oh, f this. It's not working. It's like, no, you were just working. It's like, no, you were just working. It's like, no, you were just starting to really. And so I and this is starting to really. And so I and this is starting to really. And so I and this is really common with especially my my really common with especially my my really common with especially my my female clients that I I've trained female clients that I I've trained female clients that I I've trained before is like, before is like, before is like, >> you know, we first have to really feed >> you know, we first have to really feed >> you know, we first have to really feed that body and and get healthy and then that body and and get healthy and then that body and and get healthy and then it'll start doing the things you want, it'll start doing the things you want, it'll start doing the things you want, i.e. burning body fat, building muscle, i.e. burning body fat, building muscle, i.e. burning body fat, building muscle, all Yeah. It gets becomes easier. And all Yeah. It gets becomes easier. And all Yeah. It gets becomes easier. And so, so, so, >> uh, you know, don't bail just because >> uh, you know, don't bail just because >> uh, you know, don't bail just because your first test isn't amazing or your first test isn't amazing or your first test isn't amazing or whatever like that. But I I I feel whatever like that. But I I I feel whatever like that. But I I I feel pretty good. But I think we're going to pretty good. But I think we're going to pretty good. But I think we're going to I mean from what I what I see from way I mean from what I what I see from way I mean from what I what I see from way she looks and the her what I'm seeing she looks and the her what I'm seeing she looks and the her what I'm seeing her do PR-wise her do PR-wise her do PR-wise >> and she's doing it right now the Dexa. >> and she's doing it right now the Dexa. >> and she's doing it right now the Dexa. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So we'll find out. >> So we'll find out. >> So we'll find out. >> Yeah. Literally. >> Yeah. Literally. >> Yeah. Literally. >> Yeah. We'll know. >> Yeah. We'll know. >> Yeah. We'll know. >> You should do a story about it. >> You should do a story about it. >> You should do a story about it. >> Yeah. I mean Well, we'll see. Like we'll >> Yeah. I mean Well, we'll see. Like we'll >> Yeah. I mean Well, we'll see. Like we'll No matter what, we'll obviously I'll No matter what, we'll obviously I'll No matter what, we'll obviously I'll talk about it and and I'm sure she'll talk about it and and I'm sure she'll talk about it and and I'm sure she'll talk about it. But uh I'm I'm excited to talk about it. But uh I'm I'm excited to talk about it. But uh I'm I'm excited to see what kind of progress. see what kind of progress. see what kind of progress. >> Speaking of hard work, Justin, I know >> Speaking of hard work, Justin, I know >> Speaking of hard work, Justin, I know you did something this weekend. you did something this weekend. you did something this weekend. >> What did you So what was that picture? >> What did you So what was that picture? >> What did you So what was that picture? >> You missed you missed the whole detail. >> You missed you missed the whole detail. >> You missed you missed the whole detail. >> Yeah. Well, I'm so I'm trying to list my >> Yeah. Well, I'm so I'm trying to list my >> Yeah. Well, I'm so I'm trying to list my house and um there's some things that I house and um there's some things that I house and um there's some things that I just uh was coerced into uh doing so just uh was coerced into uh doing so just uh was coerced into uh doing so that way too we could kind of maximize that way too we could kind of maximize that way too we could kind of maximize the potential and I could like you know the potential and I could like you know the potential and I could like you know get more profit out of this and and do get more profit out of this and and do get more profit out of this and and do some of the work myself. Uh some of the work myself. Uh some of the work myself. Uh >> so what are you doing >> so what are you doing >> so what are you doing >> dude? So so you know whenever you get >> dude? So so you know whenever you get >> dude? So so you know whenever you get your septic inspected you need to dig it your septic inspected you need to dig it your septic inspected you need to dig it out. Oh, I don't know. out. Oh, I don't know. out. Oh, I don't know. >> So, Okay. So, >> So, Okay. So, >> So, Okay. So, >> he doesn't know any of this stuff. >> he doesn't know any of this stuff. >> he doesn't know any of this stuff. >> Yeah. I'm gonna educate you here. Okay. >> Yeah. I'm gonna educate you here. Okay. >> Yeah. I'm gonna educate you here. Okay. >> That's where the poo goes, right? >> That's where the poo goes, right? >> That's where the poo goes, right? >> Yeah. The poo poo goes in the tanks. >> Yeah. The poo poo goes in the tanks. >> Yeah. The poo poo goes in the tanks. Okay. Um, so there's lids and then a lot Okay. Um, so there's lids and then a lot Okay. Um, so there's lids and then a lot like mine had like one was like 6t down, like mine had like one was like 6t down, like mine had like one was like 6t down, the other was like 4 foot. And the thing the other was like 4 foot. And the thing the other was like 4 foot. And the thing is is is >> you based this off of a plan which is >> you based this off of a plan which is >> you based this off of a plan which is like drawn up. It was like handdrawn. like drawn up. It was like handdrawn. like drawn up. It was like handdrawn. You can go to like city records, all You can go to like city records, all You can go to like city records, all this kind of stuff, and we're trying to this kind of stuff, and we're trying to this kind of stuff, and we're trying to find like better plans for this. And find like better plans for this. And find like better plans for this. And like there's literally just like a like there's literally just like a like there's literally just like a handdrawn like here's a box like handdrawn like here's a box like handdrawn like here's a box like arbitrary box here. There's no like um arbitrary box here. There's no like um arbitrary box here. There's no like um measurements to go off of based off of measurements to go off of based off of measurements to go off of based off of like where the house is in proximity to like where the house is in proximity to like where the house is in proximity to the drainage to this. the drainage to this. the drainage to this. >> So you're like a treasure hunt. Is that >> So you're like a treasure hunt. Is that >> So you're like a treasure hunt. Is that >> a treasure hunt is exactly what did you >> a treasure hunt is exactly what did you >> a treasure hunt is exactly what did you did you flip that in your head like that did you flip that in your head like that did you flip that in your head like that to make it pop? I didn't even think to make it pop? I didn't even think to make it pop? I didn't even think about that. about that. about that. >> I didn't think of treasure hunt was not >> I didn't think of treasure hunt was not >> I didn't think of treasure hunt was not didn't didn't didn't like you have a crappy map. We got to go like you have a crappy map. We got to go like you have a crappy map. We got to go find the treasure, dude. Yeah, X marks a find the treasure, dude. Yeah, X marks a find the treasure, dude. Yeah, X marks a spot. spot. spot. >> I bet I bet somebody wishes that they I >> I bet I bet somebody wishes that they I >> I bet I bet somebody wishes that they I bet he wishes that someone would have bet he wishes that someone would have bet he wishes that someone would have framed it that way for him. Like let's framed it that way for him. Like let's framed it that way for him. Like let's have some fun with this kid. have some fun with this kid. have some fun with this kid. >> And I'm like my whole thing before I >> And I'm like my whole thing before I >> And I'm like my whole thing before I even got started, I'm like these these even got started, I'm like these these even got started, I'm like these these these guys like obviously they're these guys like obviously they're these guys like obviously they're deferring because they charge like deferring because they charge like deferring because they charge like premiums to come dig. And I was like premiums to come dig. And I was like premiums to come dig. And I was like that's absurd how much money they're that's absurd how much money they're that's absurd how much money they're trying to charge to just dig this out. trying to charge to just dig this out. trying to charge to just dig this out. I'm like fine, you know, fine, we'll do I'm like fine, you know, fine, we'll do I'm like fine, you know, fine, we'll do it. Uh, and now I know why they charge it. Uh, and now I know why they charge it. Uh, and now I know why they charge like premiums like because it's you you like premiums like because it's you you like premiums like because it's you you don't know like and and I'm like they don't know like and and I'm like they don't know like and and I'm like they have to have some kind of like hack or have to have some kind of like hack or have to have some kind of like hack or whatever and I'm trying to like ask whatever and I'm trying to like ask whatever and I'm trying to like ask around. Nobody's helped me out. So we around. Nobody's helped me out. So we around. Nobody's helped me out. So we the first day we're just digging, you the first day we're just digging, you the first day we're just digging, you know, we're like, "Okay, based off of know, we're like, "Okay, based off of know, we're like, "Okay, based off of this." I'm like trying to this." I'm like trying to this." I'm like trying to >> you just start digging >> you just start digging >> you just start digging >> start digging and then I look I'm like a >> start digging and then I look I'm like a >> start digging and then I look I'm like a smart contractor would probably have smart contractor would probably have smart contractor would probably have like written like on the house somewhere like written like on the house somewhere like written like on the house somewhere like you know directionally like this like you know directionally like this like you know directionally like this distance away like or you know like so I distance away like or you know like so I distance away like or you know like so I was looking on you know the post that was looking on you know the post that was looking on you know the post that was like holding up our our deck and I'm was like holding up our our deck and I'm was like holding up our our deck and I'm like I saw some numbers on there. I'm like I saw some numbers on there. I'm like I saw some numbers on there. I'm like, "Oh, maybe this is it, you guys." like, "Oh, maybe this is it, you guys." like, "Oh, maybe this is it, you guys." And like we're going off of this theory. And like we're going off of this theory. And like we're going off of this theory. And it led us nowhere, you know, And it led us nowhere, you know, And it led us nowhere, you know, absolutely nowhere. And like I'll show absolutely nowhere. And like I'll show absolutely nowhere. And like I'll show you pics, but like we literally started you pics, but like we literally started you pics, but like we literally started in one place, had to go all the way over in one place, had to go all the way over in one place, had to go all the way over here, here, here, >> combined both of it, went deeper. Like I >> combined both of it, went deeper. Like I >> combined both of it, went deeper. Like I have there's layers. Um I hit all kinds have there's layers. Um I hit all kinds have there's layers. Um I hit all kinds of different like piping of different like piping of different like piping >> just shovels, bro. >> just shovels, bro. >> just shovels, bro. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> It's in our group thread. Have you seen >> It's in our group thread. Have you seen >> It's in our group thread. Have you seen our group thread? I saw the picture. our group thread? I saw the picture. our group thread? I saw the picture. >> So we don't So here's the thing. like it >> So we don't So here's the thing. like it >> So we don't So here's the thing. like it this was all low tech like everything this was all low tech like everything this was all low tech like everything cuz I can't fit heavy machinery in my cuz I can't fit heavy machinery in my cuz I can't fit heavy machinery in my backyard. There's like no real like backyard. There's like no real like backyard. There's like no real like access point like I would love to had access point like I would love to had access point like I would love to had like cats, you know, I could have rented like cats, you know, I could have rented like cats, you know, I could have rented and and and >> you know dug it out and had fun with it. >> you know dug it out and had fun with it. >> you know dug it out and had fun with it. >> Uh but no, so I was doing that. I >> Uh but no, so I was doing that. I >> Uh but no, so I was doing that. I literally felt like chain gain and we literally felt like chain gain and we literally felt like chain gain and we were like we were digging. I had like a were like we were digging. I had like a were like we were digging. I had like a little like headlamp on and and we were little like headlamp on and and we were little like headlamp on and and we were digging till it was like 8:00 at night digging till it was like 8:00 at night digging till it was like 8:00 at night the first day and I was like just the first day and I was like just the first day and I was like just completely beat. Uh, and it's weird, completely beat. Uh, and it's weird, completely beat. Uh, and it's weird, dude. Like I have this weird whenever my dude. Like I have this weird whenever my dude. Like I have this weird whenever my body gets like overworked, I switches body gets like overworked, I switches body gets like overworked, I switches into this like adrenaline response. And into this like adrenaline response. And into this like adrenaline response. And so I woke up just like energized, crazy, so I woke up just like energized, crazy, so I woke up just like energized, crazy, get back after it. We're digging again. get back after it. We're digging again. get back after it. We're digging again. And we have to then now we have to get And we have to then now we have to get And we have to then now we have to get rid of these like huge redwood stumps. rid of these like huge redwood stumps. rid of these like huge redwood stumps. And so I'm like, well, I have a guy I And so I'm like, well, I have a guy I And so I'm like, well, I have a guy I know that was like a friend of mine. know that was like a friend of mine. know that was like a friend of mine. He's uh he actually works at the wood He's uh he actually works at the wood He's uh he actually works at the wood shop. He teaches wood shop at the local shop. He teaches wood shop at the local shop. He teaches wood shop at the local high school and also used to be a high school and also used to be a high school and also used to be a lumberjack. And I'm like, "Well, this lumberjack. And I'm like, "Well, this lumberjack. And I'm like, "Well, this guy can help me out, you know." And so guy can help me out, you know." And so guy can help me out, you know." And so it it, you know, costs a bunch of it it, you know, costs a bunch of it it, you know, costs a bunch of thousands of dollars to get rid of all thousands of dollars to get rid of all thousands of dollars to get rid of all this stuff. And he's like, "Ah, dude, this stuff. And he's like, "Ah, dude, this stuff. And he's like, "Ah, dude, just give me a couple hundred bucks." just give me a couple hundred bucks." just give me a couple hundred bucks." I'm like, "Dude, Rad, come on." He comes I'm like, "Dude, Rad, come on." He comes I'm like, "Dude, Rad, come on." He comes down, he has this huge um chainsaw that down, he has this huge um chainsaw that down, he has this huge um chainsaw that was like from me to you, like like blade was like from me to you, like like blade was like from me to you, like like blade wise. And I'm helping him kind of like wise. And I'm helping him kind of like wise. And I'm helping him kind of like move these huge rounds uh and lift it. move these huge rounds uh and lift it. move these huge rounds uh and lift it. And we're like up uh substantial height, And we're like up uh substantial height, And we're like up uh substantial height, you know, like 10 12 feet up. And we're you know, like 10 12 feet up. And we're you know, like 10 12 feet up. And we're just we're sawing these like like just we're sawing these like like just we're sawing these like like hundreds of pounds rounds. And I'm hundreds of pounds rounds. And I'm hundreds of pounds rounds. And I'm trying to chuck it um so it doesn't roll trying to chuck it um so it doesn't roll trying to chuck it um so it doesn't roll all the way down the hill and like go all the way down the hill and like go all the way down the hill and like go into my my neighbor's like house. into my my neighbor's like house. into my my neighbor's like house. So we're trying to stabilize it and and So we're trying to stabilize it and and So we're trying to stabilize it and and anyways, like it was just it was anyways, like it was just it was anyways, like it was just it was madness. It was crazy like the work we madness. It was crazy like the work we madness. It was crazy like the work we were doing. And like I ended up like were doing. And like I ended up like were doing. And like I ended up like losing uh control of one of them and it losing uh control of one of them and it losing uh control of one of them and it like went over the side and actually like went over the side and actually like went over the side and actually smashed my fence and like broke the smashed my fence and like broke the smashed my fence and like broke the fence. So now I got to fix the fence. Um fence. So now I got to fix the fence. Um fence. So now I got to fix the fence. Um and so we we anyway he left. He had to and so we we anyway he left. He had to and so we we anyway he left. He had to go and so I had to get rid of these go and so I had to get rid of these go and so I had to get rid of these rounds. So the only thing I have was rounds. So the only thing I have was rounds. So the only thing I have was like a I had a mall like an axe mall. I like a I had a mall like an axe mall. I like a I had a mall like an axe mall. I don't have like a working chainsaw. I don't have like a working chainsaw. I don't have like a working chainsaw. I borrowed from my dad and I'm trying to borrowed from my dad and I'm trying to borrowed from my dad and I'm trying to like get through it and it he gives me like get through it and it he gives me like get through it and it he gives me one that's just like totally shot and one that's just like totally shot and one that's just like totally shot and I'm like trying to look how to fix it. I'm like trying to look how to fix it. I'm like trying to look how to fix it. I'm like the kids are like really I'm like the kids are like really I'm like the kids are like really involved digging and chopping and like involved digging and chopping and like involved digging and chopping and like moving and like hauling and so it the moving and like hauling and so it the moving and like hauling and so it the the benefit of all of this stuff and it the benefit of all of this stuff and it the benefit of all of this stuff and it just I could go on and on but it was just I could go on and on but it was just I could go on and on but it was like it was just mad crazy hard grueling like it was just mad crazy hard grueling like it was just mad crazy hard grueling work. I haven't done that in like I work. I haven't done that in like I work. I haven't done that in like I can't tell you how long it's been. Uh, can't tell you how long it's been. Uh, can't tell you how long it's been. Uh, and it just reminds you like, oh my god, and it just reminds you like, oh my god, and it just reminds you like, oh my god, this is like where I started. And then I this is like where I started. And then I this is like where I started. And then I just knew like I can't like sustain just knew like I can't like sustain just knew like I can't like sustain this. Like this is unsustainable, this. Like this is unsustainable, this. Like this is unsustainable, you know? And and the kids have never you know? And and the kids have never you know? And and the kids have never done anything that hard. So they were done anything that hard. So they were done anything that hard. So they were like, "Yeah." Like they're getting like like, "Yeah." Like they're getting like like, "Yeah." Like they're getting like amped about it. Take their shirts off. amped about it. Take their shirts off. amped about it. Take their shirts off. They're like, you know, hitting as hard They're like, you know, hitting as hard They're like, you know, hitting as hard as they can, getting nowhere, you know? as they can, getting nowhere, you know? as they can, getting nowhere, you know? Dad, look what I did. LIKE, YEAH, BUDDY. Dad, look what I did. LIKE, YEAH, BUDDY. Dad, look what I did. LIKE, YEAH, BUDDY. YEAH. Every now and they get one. And YEAH. Every now and they get one. And YEAH. Every now and they get one. And actually Ethan, he's got a little more actually Ethan, he's got a little more actually Ethan, he's got a little more mass. So he was like, you know, getting mass. So he was like, you know, getting mass. So he was like, you know, getting through and ever was getting frustrated through and ever was getting frustrated through and ever was getting frustrated cuz he's I'm like, "Dude, you're you're cuz he's I'm like, "Dude, you're you're cuz he's I'm like, "Dude, you're you're shredded. You don't have mass yet. You shredded. You don't have mass yet. You shredded. You don't have mass yet. You know, that's it's going to be different. know, that's it's going to be different. know, that's it's going to be different. Trust me." But he was doing a great job Trust me." But he was doing a great job Trust me." But he was doing a great job digging and and uh digging and and uh digging and and uh >> Did you find it? >> Did you find it? >> Did you find it? >> So we found one lid. We didn't find the >> So we found one lid. We didn't find the >> So we found one lid. We didn't find the other one. Uh so that's still, you know, other one. Uh so that's still, you know, other one. Uh so that's still, you know, up in the air. Uh I have like four up in the air. Uh I have like four up in the air. Uh I have like four rounds left. We split like uh 12 rounds rounds left. We split like uh 12 rounds rounds left. We split like uh 12 rounds or so. Bro, can I just say what a good or so. Bro, can I just say what a good or so. Bro, can I just say what a good friend you are? Because you didn't ask friend you are? Because you didn't ask friend you are? Because you didn't ask Adam, I or Doug to help you. Adam, I or Doug to help you. Adam, I or Doug to help you. >> I know better, dude. I know better. You >> I know better, dude. I know better. You >> I know better, dude. I know better. You know what I mean? I'd be like, "Oh, I know what I mean? I'd be like, "Oh, I know what I mean? I'd be like, "Oh, I got to go help Justin." But you didn't. got to go help Justin." But you didn't. got to go help Justin." But you didn't. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I mean? >> What a nice guy. >> What a nice guy. >> What a nice guy. >> Dude, the worst part is I go like I >> Dude, the worst part is I go like I >> Dude, the worst part is I go like I borrow things from people and it's just borrow things from people and it's just borrow things from people and it's just been the same process. Like I should been the same process. Like I should been the same process. Like I should just bought it. Like I end up getting just bought it. Like I end up getting just bought it. Like I end up getting like faulty things and then it like it like faulty things and then it like it like faulty things and then it like it takes away from like daylight. Like takes away from like daylight. Like takes away from like daylight. Like daylight is is the the currency. Like I daylight is is the the currency. Like I daylight is is the the currency. Like I needed more. I need one more day to needed more. I need one more day to needed more. I need one more day to really complete and finish. So, we're really complete and finish. So, we're really complete and finish. So, we're going to have to delay the pictures cuz going to have to delay the pictures cuz going to have to delay the pictures cuz the my backyard looks like a war zone, the my backyard looks like a war zone, the my backyard looks like a war zone, dude. It's just sawdust. Like, you guys dude. It's just sawdust. Like, you guys dude. It's just sawdust. Like, you guys would have died, dude. I was like would have died, dude. I was like would have died, dude. I was like stabilizing and my friend was cutting stabilizing and my friend was cutting stabilizing and my friend was cutting and like so because it's such a big saw and like so because it's such a big saw and like so because it's such a big saw like the amount of volume of of uh like the amount of volume of of uh like the amount of volume of of uh sawdust was just bukcocking my sawdust was just bukcocking my sawdust was just bukcocking my just like just it was insane, dude. I just like just it was insane, dude. I just like just it was insane, dude. I was so dirty and just like just was so dirty and just like just was so dirty and just like just >> and I loved it, dude. I this weird part >> and I loved it, dude. I this weird part >> and I loved it, dude. I this weird part of me I just loved it and back there. of me I just loved it and back there. of me I just loved it and back there. >> You're sadistic, bro. Yeah, >> You're sadistic, bro. Yeah, >> You're sadistic, bro. Yeah, >> but now I'm, you know, now I'm like, "Oh >> but now I'm, you know, now I'm like, "Oh >> but now I'm, you know, now I'm like, "Oh my god, I'm so exhausted." my god, I'm so exhausted." my god, I'm so exhausted." >> I would have I would have >> I would have I would have >> I would have I would have >> How much money did you save? >> How much money did you save? >> How much money did you save? >> Yeah. 10 grand. >> Yeah. 10 grand. >> Yeah. 10 grand. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It better be, it better be under the >> It better be, it better be under the >> It better be, it better be under the 2030 range. 2030 range. 2030 range. >> Oh, you think 2030? >> Oh, you think 2030? >> Oh, you think 2030? >> I think so. >> I think so. >> I think so. >> No, dude. Come on. >> No, dude. Come on. >> No, dude. Come on. >> Okay. So, >> Okay. So, >> Okay. So, >> I saw the work, but >> I saw the work, but >> I saw the work, but >> there's like probably 10 for just the >> there's like probably 10 for just the >> there's like probably 10 for just the removal of these huge trees. removal of these huge trees. removal of these huge trees. >> That's fair. >> That's fair. >> That's fair. >> Uh, and then it's at least five to six >> Uh, and then it's at least five to six >> Uh, and then it's at least five to six for like the digging part. for like the digging part. for like the digging part. Uh so yeah, you're right. It's probably Uh so yeah, you're right. It's probably Uh so yeah, you're right. It's probably less than I was hoping but less than I was hoping but less than I was hoping but >> worth it >> worth it >> worth it >> for the lesson to give I again I'm >> for the lesson to give I again I'm >> for the lesson to give I again I'm reframing this reframing this reframing this >> I have to reframe this like this is I >> I have to reframe this like this is I >> I have to reframe this like this is I wanted them to wanted them to wanted them to >> you know I'm look always looking for an >> you know I'm look always looking for an >> you know I'm look always looking for an opportunity for them opportunity for them opportunity for them >> having 100% having two boys even even I >> having 100% having two boys even even I >> having 100% having two boys even even I would probably consider something like would probably consider something like would probably consider something like this just for that have two teenage boys this just for that have two teenage boys this just for that have two teenage boys this is a good lesson I don't want to do this is a good lesson I don't want to do this is a good lesson I don't want to do this I could afford to go pay someone to this I could afford to go pay someone to this I could afford to go pay someone to do this but I'm going to go do this do this but I'm going to go do this do this but I'm going to go do this because it's a I think I could see my I because it's a I think I could see my I because it's a I think I could see my I would do that I would do that I would do that I And I I kind of did that as I was going And I I kind of did that as I was going And I I kind of did that as I was going cuz I was like very tempted to just like cuz I was like very tempted to just like cuz I was like very tempted to just like call some people. I'm just like, "Dude, call some people. I'm just like, "Dude, call some people. I'm just like, "Dude, we we need some reinforcement." And then we we need some reinforcement." And then we we need some reinforcement." And then if I didn't have or if I like if I had if I didn't have or if I like if I had if I didn't have or if I like if I had to do that like right now cuz my boy's to do that like right now cuz my boy's to do that like right now cuz my boy's too little to do that stuff like that. I too little to do that stuff like that. I too little to do that stuff like that. I would call you guys and I'd tell you, would call you guys and I'd tell you, would call you guys and I'd tell you, listen, this thing's going to cost me listen, this thing's going to cost me listen, this thing's going to cost me this much. I need you guys' help to come this much. I need you guys' help to come this much. I need you guys' help to come over here cuz then I know S would just over here cuz then I know S would just over here cuz then I know S would just cut a check. cut a check. cut a check. >> So fast. >> So fast. >> So fast. >> So fast. >> So fast. >> So fast. >> How much? How much is it? >> How much? How much is it? >> How much? How much is it? >> I'd be like, "Hey, I love you, bro. I >> I'd be like, "Hey, I love you, bro. I >> I'd be like, "Hey, I love you, bro. I love you. I'll pay for it." love you. I'll pay for it." love you. I'll pay for it." >> Yeah. Exactly. So that's how if you were >> Yeah. Exactly. So that's how if you were >> Yeah. Exactly. So that's how if you were smart you would have framed you been smart you would have framed you been smart you would have framed you been like hey guys trying to save about 10 like hey guys trying to save about 10 like hey guys trying to save about 10 grand I got yeah like I really need your grand I got yeah like I really need your grand I got yeah like I really need your help you know I never ask you anything help you know I never ask you anything help you know I never ask you anything like that so then salad would feel hella like that so then salad would feel hella like that so then salad would feel hella guilty they asked him he's like hey bro guilty they asked him he's like hey bro guilty they asked him he's like hey bro I tell you what you know what I I'll I tell you what you know what I I'll I tell you what you know what I I'll just just tell me how much it is I'm just just tell me how much it is I'm just just tell me how much it is I'm going to pay so going to pay so going to pay so >> 100% that's the move that's the move >> oh my god that's brutal dude you bet you >> oh my god that's brutal dude you bet you >> oh my god that's brutal dude you bet you were sore were sore were sore >> so sore uh but then I got up and I >> so sore uh but then I got up and I >> so sore uh but then I got up and I sprung it was so weird dude I I can't sprung it was so weird dude I I can't sprung it was so weird dude I I can't even like explain it completely cuz it even like explain it completely cuz it even like explain it completely cuz it was just like I I have this bolt of was just like I I have this bolt of was just like I I have this bolt of energy. Even right now I'm like very energy. Even right now I'm like very energy. Even right now I'm like very energetic. I wish energetic. I wish energetic. I wish >> I think it's all going to go away real >> I think it's all going to go away real >> I think it's all going to go away real quick. quick. quick. >> This is where I wish you wore like aura >> This is where I wish you wore like aura >> This is where I wish you wore like aura rings and things like that cuz it'd be rings and things like that cuz it'd be rings and things like that cuz it'd be kind of cool to like see one what you kind of cool to like see one what you kind of cool to like see one what you burned doing. I bet it's crazy how hard burned doing. I bet it's crazy how hard burned doing. I bet it's crazy how hard you slept because of that. I mean you you slept because of that. I mean you you slept because of that. I mean you felt it. felt it. felt it. >> I think that's why cuz I slept >> I think that's why cuz I slept >> I think that's why cuz I slept >> slept deep and hard. Yeah. Deep and >> slept deep and hard. Yeah. Deep and >> slept deep and hard. Yeah. Deep and hard. hard. hard. >> And and that's the other thing too. It's >> And and that's the other thing too. It's >> And and that's the other thing too. It's like you always make like I do have two like you always make like I do have two like you always make like I do have two modes, you know, and like modes, you know, and like modes, you know, and like >> I really like hard [ __ ] work. Like I >> I really like hard [ __ ] work. Like I >> I really like hard [ __ ] work. Like I want to do something really hard want to do something really hard want to do something really hard otherwise I'm like eh like you know the otherwise I'm like eh like you know the otherwise I'm like eh like you know the maintenance stuff is like so maintenance stuff is like so maintenance stuff is like so unmotivating. unmotivating. unmotivating. >> I'm you know part you know I've been on >> I'm you know part you know I've been on >> I'm you know part you know I've been on this like sleep journey thing. Uh part this like sleep journey thing. Uh part this like sleep journey thing. Uh part of my theory on like I know the sleep of my theory on like I know the sleep of my theory on like I know the sleep routine all the stuff like that. I the routine all the stuff like that. I the routine all the stuff like that. I the why I think it's become because it was why I think it's become because it was why I think it's become because it was it never felt like it was that important it never felt like it was that important it never felt like it was that important to me before and we've you know we've to me before and we've you know we've to me before and we've you know we've kind of gone back and forth is that just kind of gone back and forth is that just kind of gone back and forth is that just because we were young and resilient. I because we were young and resilient. I because we were young and resilient. I also think there's another layer to that also think there's another layer to that also think there's another layer to that and Justin's touching on it right now and Justin's touching on it right now and Justin's touching on it right now that that that >> the amount that I used to physically >> the amount that I used to physically >> the amount that I used to physically exhaust my body even like a good hard exhaust my body even like a good hard exhaust my body even like a good hard workout today is still nothing compared workout today is still nothing compared workout today is still nothing compared to what it was in my mid20s or even like to what it was in my mid20s or even like to what it was in my mid20s or even like Yeah. Like Yeah. Like Yeah. Like >> I would not only train hard, I was >> I would not only train hard, I was >> I would not only train hard, I was moving heavy stuff all day long like you moving heavy stuff all day long like you moving heavy stuff all day long like you even like you just even like you just even like you just >> and being in the sun. Yeah, physically >> and being in the sun. Yeah, physically >> and being in the sun. Yeah, physically exhausted myself exhausted myself exhausted myself >> on a more regular basis. And I think >> on a more regular basis. And I think >> on a more regular basis. And I think that has a lot to do cuz I've already that has a lot to do cuz I've already that has a lot to do cuz I've already connected already like man, I got to do connected already like man, I got to do connected already like man, I got to do at least that at least that at least that >> 8 10,000 steps and I need to get that >> 8 10,000 steps and I need to get that >> 8 10,000 steps and I need to get that good hard workout in to even think I'm good hard workout in to even think I'm good hard workout in to even think I'm going to get close to decent sleep if I going to get close to decent sleep if I going to get close to decent sleep if I don't do that. And so I think a lot has don't do that. And so I think a lot has don't do that. And so I think a lot has to be with like like that's part of why to be with like like that's part of why to be with like like that's part of why I'm not and is is tough to get it. And I I'm not and is is tough to get it. And I I'm not and is is tough to get it. And I bet you if I did something like that bet you if I did something like that bet you if I did something like that with you, I would be just, with you, I would be just, with you, I would be just, >> you know, you know what messes me up is >> you know, you know what messes me up is >> you know, you know what messes me up is planes. Planes. If I'm on a plane, even planes. Planes. If I'm on a plane, even planes. Planes. If I'm on a plane, even for an hour, oh, I just feel like crap. for an hour, oh, I just feel like crap. for an hour, oh, I just feel like crap. >> I don't know why, but what's his name? >> I don't know why, but what's his name? >> I don't know why, but what's his name? Scott. When we talked to Scott, he said, Scott. When we talked to Scott, he said, Scott. When we talked to Scott, he said, >> I guess the oxygen concentration on the >> I guess the oxygen concentration on the >> I guess the oxygen concentration on the planes is really low. planes is really low. planes is really low. >> And so, he explained that. But I don't >> And so, he explained that. But I don't >> And so, he explained that. But I don't know, man. know, man. know, man. >> I mean, I I hold I am still right now. >> I mean, I I hold I am still right now. >> I mean, I I hold I am still right now. Last night, I couldn't even get my aura Last night, I couldn't even get my aura Last night, I couldn't even get my aura ring off because of how much water I was ring off because of how much water I was ring off because of how much water I was holding from flying. When I when I fly, holding from flying. When I when I fly, holding from flying. When I when I fly, I definitely get all and that's how I I definitely get all and that's how I I definitely get all and that's how I can tell is my ring. can tell is my ring. can tell is my ring. >> Did you Did you try the compression >> Did you Did you try the compression >> Did you Did you try the compression socks? Where's your compression socks? >> Hey Doug, I got to ask you. You did you >> Hey Doug, I got to ask you. You did you were the first one out of us to do the were the first one out of us to do the were the first one out of us to do the appointment with uh Vita Bella. appointment with uh Vita Bella. appointment with uh Vita Bella. >> Oh, you did yours? >> Oh, you did yours? >> Oh, you did yours? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How'd it go? >> How'd it go? >> How'd it go? >> It went well. Yeah. I mean, I spoke to >> It went well. Yeah. I mean, I spoke to >> It went well. Yeah. I mean, I spoke to the uh medical professional and um the uh medical professional and um the uh medical professional and um basically I was just getting some of the basically I was just getting some of the basically I was just getting some of the things I already had. things I already had. things I already had. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh that was on I think the 19th is >> And uh that was on I think the 19th is >> And uh that was on I think the 19th is when I had that. So the reviews are when I had that. So the reviews are when I had that. So the reviews are coming in from from people who are going coming in from from people who are going coming in from from people who are going through them and uh they're all good through them and uh they're all good through them and uh they're all good reviews like super good service. So was reviews like super good service. So was reviews like super good service. So was it fast, easy? it fast, easy? it fast, easy? >> It was super fast. So I of course I kind >> It was super fast. So I of course I kind >> It was super fast. So I of course I kind of knew what I needed and wanted. I of knew what I needed and wanted. I of knew what I needed and wanted. I already had my labs and so it was 19th already had my labs and so it was 19th already had my labs and so it was 19th which was a Thursday and everything was which was a Thursday and everything was which was a Thursday and everything was shipped out right afterwards and arrived shipped out right afterwards and arrived shipped out right afterwards and arrived on Tuesday. on Tuesday. on Tuesday. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> That wow. >> That wow. >> That wow. >> By the way, that's a nice change. By the >> By the way, that's a nice change. By the >> By the way, that's a nice change. By the time this goes live, California should time this goes live, California should time this goes live, California should be all set now. be all set now. be all set now. >> Oh >> Oh >> Oh >> yeah. So you can go to mpormones.com and >> yeah. So you can go to mpormones.com and >> yeah. So you can go to mpormones.com and get set up and then you'll be able to do get set up and then you'll be able to do get set up and then you'll be able to do California. California. California. >> Yeah. So So California that I mean and >> Yeah. So So California that I mean and >> Yeah. So So California that I mean and by the way like he had to move you know by the way like he had to move you know by the way like he had to move you know heaven and earth to try and get get all heaven and earth to try and get get all heaven and earth to try and get get all the good get through all the red tape of the good get through all the red tape of the good get through all the red tape of California. I mean this is why obviously California. I mean this is why obviously California. I mean this is why obviously he did before but did it just because of he did before but did it just because of he did before but did it just because of our show and because we have such a our show and because we have such a our show and because we have such a large center base in California. large center base in California. large center base in California. >> So just for people to know what's the >> So just for people to know what's the >> So just for people to know what's the what is it monthly? It's likeund uh is what is it monthly? It's likeund uh is what is it monthly? It's likeund uh is it 29 147 it 29 147 it 29 147 >> 139 it's 139 includes >> 139 it's 139 includes >> 139 it's 139 includes >> that includes your testosterone whether >> that includes your testosterone whether >> that includes your testosterone whether you're a man or a woman so your you're a man or a woman so your you're a man or a woman so your testosterone replacement or in testosterone replacement or in testosterone replacement or in clomophene or B12 shots clomophene or B12 shots clomophene or B12 shots >> um and then if you prepay for the year >> um and then if you prepay for the year >> um and then if you prepay for the year you save you save you save >> 10% >> 10% >> 10% >> 10% and then they'll give you your first >> 10% and then they'll give you your first >> 10% and then they'll give you your first lab panel for up there and even if you lab panel for up there and even if you lab panel for up there and even if you if you don't do the prepay for the year if you don't do the prepay for the year if you don't do the prepay for the year so you prepay you save that money even so you prepay you save that money even so you prepay you save that money even if you just go to the monthly their if you just go to the monthly their if you just go to the monthly their blood panels are only 89 bucks That's blood panels are only 89 bucks That's blood panels are only 89 bucks That's it. it. it. >> Yeah. And if you have already done blood >> Yeah. And if you have already done blood >> Yeah. And if you have already done blood panels within the last 6 months, they panels within the last 6 months, they panels within the last 6 months, they can use those, can use those, can use those, >> right? So, >> right? So, >> right? So, >> you don't have to do new. >> you don't have to do new. >> you don't have to do new. >> No. Yeah. Super super super nice. >> No. Yeah. Super super super nice. >> No. Yeah. Super super super nice. >> Doug, are we going to get you on >> Doug, are we going to get you on >> Doug, are we going to get you on testosterone finally or you just keep testosterone finally or you just keep testosterone finally or you just keep sticking? sticking? sticking? >> I mean, I don't see a reason to do it >> I mean, I don't see a reason to do it >> I mean, I don't see a reason to do it unless you convince. That's true. You unless you convince. That's true. You unless you convince. That's true. You don't You're not curious about what 205 don't You're not curious about what 205 don't You're not curious about what 205 Doug looks like? Doug looks like? Doug looks like? >> I'm curious for sure. I mean, I I think >> I'm curious for sure. I mean, I I think >> I'm curious for sure. I mean, I I think I would love it, you know, but again, I would love it, you know, but again, I would love it, you know, but again, I'm also not wanting to interrupt my own I'm also not wanting to interrupt my own I'm also not wanting to interrupt my own production. He's got like he's got like production. He's got like he's got like production. He's got like he's got like high TRT natural levels. high TRT natural levels. high TRT natural levels. >> Now, have you told yourself um if and >> Now, have you told yourself um if and >> Now, have you told yourself um if and like let's say in the next 8 years it like let's say in the next 8 years it like let's say in the next 8 years it were to dip down, would you then? were to dip down, would you then? were to dip down, would you then? >> Yeah, totally consider >> Yeah, totally consider >> Yeah, totally consider >> for sure. So, >> for sure. So, >> for sure. So, >> he go down to half and he'd have high >> he go down to half and he'd have high >> he go down to half and he'd have high testosterone. testosterone. testosterone. >> I know. That's what I mean though. What >> I know. That's what I mean though. What >> I know. That's what I mean though. What if it cuz you know you've monitored now if it cuz you know you've monitored now if it cuz you know you've monitored now consistently for a long time. consistently for a long time. consistently for a long time. >> Half half would make if he went down >> Half half would make if he went down >> Half half would make if he went down half he would feel like lower. half he would feel like lower. half he would feel like lower. >> He would feel it. >> He would feel it. >> He would feel it. >> Yeah. I don't I don't know. I mean, last >> Yeah. I don't I don't know. I mean, last >> Yeah. I don't I don't know. I mean, last blood test was at like 1,600 and blood test was at like 1,600 and blood test was at like 1,600 and This is total, dude. This is total, dude. This is total, dude. >> And uh and my I can't remember what my >> And uh and my I can't remember what my >> And uh and my I can't remember what my free was too, right? free was too, right? free was too, right? >> My free was good, too. Yeah, that was my >> My free was good, too. Yeah, that was my >> My free was good, too. Yeah, that was my big concern. I was really working to get big concern. I was really working to get big concern. I was really working to get my free up. my free up. my free up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um and so as of now, I I do feel good. >> Um and so as of now, I I do feel good. >> Um and so as of now, I I do feel good. Uh I mean, I'm not getting as jacked Uh I mean, I'm not getting as jacked Uh I mean, I'm not getting as jacked maybe as I potentially could if I was maybe as I potentially could if I was maybe as I potentially could if I was taking taking taking >> Are you just horny all the time with >> Are you just horny all the time with >> Are you just horny all the time with that much testosterone? that much testosterone? that much testosterone? >> Do you really want to know? >> Do you really want to know? >> Do you really want to know? >> No, I can only imagine. >> No, I can only imagine. >> No, I can only imagine. >> That took a turn. >> That took a turn. >> That took a turn. >> Remember that time? Remember for his >> Remember that time? Remember for his >> Remember that time? Remember for his birthday? birthday? birthday? Everyone's talking nice things about Everyone's talking nice things about Everyone's talking nice things about Doug. Doug. Doug. >> He's such a great lover. >> He's such a great lover. >> He's such a great lover. >> His girlfriend. Everyone said such nice >> His girlfriend. Everyone said such nice >> His girlfriend. Everyone said such nice things about Doug. He's a great man. things about Doug. He's a great man. things about Doug. He's a great man. He's a good father. It gets to her. He's a good father. It gets to her. He's a good father. It gets to her. She's like, he's a great lover. She's like, he's a great lover. She's like, he's a great lover. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Could be worse things, I guess. >> Could be worse things, I guess. >> Could be worse things, I guess. >> Exactly. Worse things. I mean, if you're >> Exactly. Worse things. I mean, if you're >> Exactly. Worse things. 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I know you guys hear that all the time, know you guys hear that all the time, know you guys hear that all the time, but you know, there was kind of a but you know, there was kind of a but you know, there was kind of a screenshot of like in 2022, I was like screenshot of like in 2022, I was like screenshot of like in 2022, I was like in the throws of active addiction and in the throws of active addiction and in the throws of active addiction and alcoholism and uh and and God came and alcoholism and uh and and God came and alcoholism and uh and and God came and Jesus came and saved me out of that. And Jesus came and saved me out of that. And Jesus came and saved me out of that. And ever since then, my life has just gone ever since then, my life has just gone ever since then, my life has just gone in the right direction. And I appreciate in the right direction. And I appreciate in the right direction. And I appreciate you guys having Rock Recovery on and you guys having Rock Recovery on and you guys having Rock Recovery on and stuff like that because it ties together stuff like that because it ties together stuff like that because it ties together like this faith fellowship type of vibe like this faith fellowship type of vibe like this faith fellowship type of vibe that you guys have which I think that you guys have which I think that you guys have which I think separates you from you know any other separates you from you know any other separates you from you know any other you know podcast out there that that you know podcast out there that that you know podcast out there that that that speaks about fitness. So I really that speaks about fitness. So I really that speaks about fitness. So I really appreciate that. appreciate that. appreciate that. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. >> How can we help you brother? >> How can we help you brother? >> How can we help you brother? >> Awesome. So um so right now so I'm >> Awesome. So um so right now so I'm >> Awesome. So um so right now so I'm working out with uh he's actually the working out with uh he's actually the working out with uh he's actually the pastor of my uh of my church of my pastor of my uh of my church of my pastor of my uh of my church of my church. We work out at my house in the church. We work out at my house in the church. We work out at my house in the mornings. I have a little gym set up. I mornings. I have a little gym set up. I mornings. I have a little gym set up. I have a squat rack. I have a It's all have a squat rack. I have a It's all have a squat rack. I have a It's all Olympic like proper gear, a dip bar. Um Olympic like proper gear, a dip bar. Um Olympic like proper gear, a dip bar. Um anyway, so we're doing anyway, so we're doing anyway, so we're doing You gave me strong last time I was on, You gave me strong last time I was on, You gave me strong last time I was on, so I really appreciate that. So, we do so I really appreciate that. So, we do so I really appreciate that. So, we do strong in the winter time to bulk and strong in the winter time to bulk and strong in the winter time to bulk and then we do then we do then we do um anabolic in the fall and then we do um anabolic in the fall and then we do um anabolic in the fall and then we do aesthetic in the spring into the summer. aesthetic in the spring into the summer. aesthetic in the spring into the summer. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, my so my question is like where do I >> So, my so my question is like where do I >> So, my so my question is like where do I go to kind of fill in that gap between go to kind of fill in that gap between go to kind of fill in that gap between the three? Like there's kind of look at the three? Like there's kind of look at the three? Like there's kind of look at looking at it like almost quarterly like looking at it like almost quarterly like looking at it like almost quarterly like knock out run this program, run this knock out run this program, run this knock out run this program, run this program, run this program. Which one program, run this program. Which one program, run this program. Which one should I squeeze in there now to kind of should I squeeze in there now to kind of should I squeeze in there now to kind of fulfill like close the circle? fulfill like close the circle? fulfill like close the circle? >> Symmetry or performance. That's it. >> Symmetry or performance. That's it. >> Symmetry or performance. That's it. >> Symmetry or performance. Either one of >> Symmetry or performance. Either one of >> Symmetry or performance. Either one of those would be perfect. Perfect those would be perfect. Perfect those would be perfect. Perfect additions. They would be very additions. They would be very additions. They would be very complimentary. complimentary. complimentary. >> What you have with Strong Strong's got >> What you have with Strong Strong's got >> What you have with Strong Strong's got some uh some decent functionality. Uh some uh some decent functionality. Uh some uh some decent functionality. Uh but it is somewhat uh sagittal plane but it is somewhat uh sagittal plane but it is somewhat uh sagittal plane focused. focused. focused. >> Uh maps anabolic very sagittal plane. >> Uh maps anabolic very sagittal plane. >> Uh maps anabolic very sagittal plane. Aesthetic very bodybuilder focused. And Aesthetic very bodybuilder focused. And Aesthetic very bodybuilder focused. And so symmetry or performance would help so symmetry or performance would help so symmetry or performance would help fill the gaps. It would help with fill the gaps. It would help with fill the gaps. It would help with lateral stability, unilateral strength. lateral stability, unilateral strength. lateral stability, unilateral strength. It would really help uh bolster your It would really help uh bolster your It would really help uh bolster your joints. joints. joints. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> So if you if you want more of an >> So if you if you want more of an >> So if you if you want more of an athletic uh lean, you would go with athletic uh lean, you would go with athletic uh lean, you would go with performance. performance. performance. >> Uh if you want more >> Uh if you want more >> Uh if you want more still kind of that strength training, still kind of that strength training, still kind of that strength training, bodybuilding uh lean, then you would go bodybuilding uh lean, then you would go bodybuilding uh lean, then you would go symmetry. But either one of them would symmetry. But either one of them would symmetry. But either one of them would be a great addition. So you you pick. be a great addition. So you you pick. be a great addition. So you you pick. I'll send you which one you want, bro. I'll send you which one you want, bro. I'll send you which one you want, bro. >> Pick. Yeah. uh the symmetry would be >> Pick. Yeah. uh the symmetry would be >> Pick. Yeah. uh the symmetry would be awesome. I really appreciate that. Um awesome. I really appreciate that. Um awesome. I really appreciate that. Um yeah, you know, the the yeah, you know, the the yeah, you know, the the the whole the whole the whole um program like has really given me a um program like has really given me a um program like has really given me a lot of like in my life it's given me the lot of like in my life it's given me the lot of like in my life it's given me the structure that I was lacking and I feel structure that I was lacking and I feel structure that I was lacking and I feel like the the maps programs give that like the the maps programs give that like the the maps programs give that structure and that the videos and all structure and that the videos and all structure and that the videos and all those things. So, you know, you guys do those things. So, you know, you guys do those things. So, you know, you guys do a great job and I I truly appreciate all a great job and I I truly appreciate all a great job and I I truly appreciate all that you guys do. that you guys do. that you guys do. >> Yeah, Charles, I'm I'm reading in your >> Yeah, Charles, I'm I'm reading in your >> Yeah, Charles, I'm I'm reading in your question, too. Here it says you gained question, too. Here it says you gained question, too. Here it says you gained 15 pounds of muscle you using MAP 15 pounds of muscle you using MAP 15 pounds of muscle you using MAP strong. Tell me about that. strong. Tell me about that. strong. Tell me about that. >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, I went from uh so >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, I went from uh so >> Yeah. So, yeah. So, I went from uh so strong I I really bulked. Uh I was strong I I really bulked. Uh I was strong I I really bulked. Uh I was eating a lot of whole foods. Um tons of eating a lot of whole foods. Um tons of eating a lot of whole foods. Um tons of protein, tons of car uh carbs and protein, tons of car uh carbs and protein, tons of car uh carbs and protein and calories. And then I went protein and calories. And then I went protein and calories. And then I went from I was like on a bench like I was from I was like on a bench like I was from I was like on a bench like I was benching like I could do 225 like three benching like I could do 225 like three benching like I could do 225 like three times and then after strong I was times and then after strong I was times and then after strong I was knocking it out for like 10 or 12. knocking it out for like 10 or 12. knocking it out for like 10 or 12. That's great, dude. That's great, dude. That's great, dude. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> You know, yeah. It's like uh I used to >> You know, yeah. It's like uh I used to >> You know, yeah. It's like uh I used to always do the bro workout. So, like I'd always do the bro workout. So, like I'd always do the bro workout. So, like I'd go to the gym and they'd be like, "Let go to the gym and they'd be like, "Let go to the gym and they'd be like, "Let me guess, buys and and chest, you know." me guess, buys and and chest, you know." me guess, buys and and chest, you know." And uh and now because of like, you And uh and now because of like, you And uh and now because of like, you know, the programs I have really like know, the programs I have really like know, the programs I have really like wellrounded. It's wellrounded me like in wellrounded. It's wellrounded me like in wellrounded. It's wellrounded me like in my fitness journey. So, my fitness journey. So, my fitness journey. So, >> that's awesome. >> that's awesome. >> that's awesome. >> Yeah. So, Symmetry sounds great. >> Yeah. So, Symmetry sounds great. >> Yeah. So, Symmetry sounds great. >> That's like a bro that that year of >> That's like a bro that that year of >> That's like a bro that that year of programming is such a beautiful mix of programming is such a beautiful mix of programming is such a beautiful mix of training. You're set. training. You're set. training. You're set. >> Yeah. Yeah. You get really good results >> Yeah. Yeah. You get really good results >> Yeah. Yeah. You get really good results with that combination. with that combination. with that combination. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Awesome. Um, well, I appreciate you guys >> Awesome. Um, well, I appreciate you guys >> Awesome. Um, well, I appreciate you guys having me on. Um, thank you so much for having me on. Um, thank you so much for having me on. Um, thank you so much for everything you guys do again and uh I'll everything you guys do again and uh I'll everything you guys do again and uh I'll I'll get I'll look out for symmetry and I'll get I'll look out for symmetry and I'll get I'll look out for symmetry and then I'll get working on that and uh then I'll get working on that and uh then I'll get working on that and uh I'll let you know how it goes. I'll let you know how it goes. I'll let you know how it goes. >> You got it, man. Appreciate that, >> You got it, man. Appreciate that, >> You got it, man. Appreciate that, Charles. Charles. Charles. >> Yeah, I appreciate you calling in, >> Yeah, I appreciate you calling in, >> Yeah, I appreciate you calling in, brother. Thank you, dude. brother. Thank you, dude. brother. Thank you, dude. >> Awesome. Thanks, guys. >> Awesome. Thanks, guys. >> Awesome. Thanks, guys. >> That's great. Oh, that's a lot of >> That's great. Oh, that's a lot of >> That's great. Oh, that's a lot of strength and muscle, strength and muscle, strength and muscle, >> especially uh I mean he's not a a >> especially uh I mean he's not a a >> especially uh I mean he's not a a 20-year-old kid who just started 20-year-old kid who just started 20-year-old kid who just started lifting, you know, probably been lifting lifting, you know, probably been lifting lifting, you know, probably been lifting most of his life and to most of his life and to most of his life and to >> and by the way, when you I mean, he said >> and by the way, when you I mean, he said >> and by the way, when you I mean, he said a little bit on his question, but when I a little bit on his question, but when I a little bit on his question, but when I he sends in an email, so people send an he sends in an email, so people send an he sends in an email, so people send an email and you can read, you know, as I'm email and you can read, you know, as I'm email and you can read, you know, as I'm reading his email, I he's a recovering reading his email, I he's a recovering reading his email, I he's a recovering addict. addict. addict. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He had really bad um uh issues with >> He had really bad um uh issues with >> He had really bad um uh issues with alcohol and now here he is like working alcohol and now here he is like working alcohol and now here he is like working out, sober, out, sober, out, sober, >> turned it all around, >> turned it all around, >> turned it all around, >> you know, he's got a strong faith. Um >> you know, he's got a strong faith. Um >> you know, he's got a strong faith. Um just incredible transformation. just incredible transformation. just incredible transformation. Um and I just want to you know give you Um and I just want to you know give you Um and I just want to you know give you know fitness is such a great vehicle. know fitness is such a great vehicle. know fitness is such a great vehicle. >> Yeah. For growth >> Yeah. For growth >> Yeah. For growth >> for Yeah. It's so it's such a great way >> for Yeah. It's so it's such a great way >> for Yeah. It's so it's such a great way to get to help someone move away from to get to help someone move away from to get to help someone move away from some you know some of those unhealthy some you know some of those unhealthy some you know some of those unhealthy addictions. addictions. addictions. >> You could always do you know fitness >> You could always do you know fitness >> You could always do you know fitness wrong too wrong too wrong too >> but as a vehicle for improving your >> but as a vehicle for improving your >> but as a vehicle for improving your mental health uh for giving you mental health uh for giving you mental health uh for giving you discipline and structure your physical discipline and structure your physical discipline and structure your physical health. health. health. >> Oh it's the core of everything. >> Oh it's the core of everything. >> Oh it's the core of everything. >> That's amazing. >> That's amazing. >> That's amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Our next caller is Rob from New Jersey. >> Our next caller is Rob from New Jersey. >> Our next caller is Rob from New Jersey. >> What's up Rob? How you doing, Robin? And >> What's up Rob? How you doing, Robin? And >> What's up Rob? How you doing, Robin? And >> hey, hey guys. How's it going? >> hey, hey guys. How's it going? >> hey, hey guys. How's it going? >> Good, man. How you doing? How can we >> Good, man. How you doing? How can we >> Good, man. How you doing? How can we help you? help you? help you? >> Well, new location. I'm in Florida now. >> Well, new location. I'm in Florida now. >> Well, new location. I'm in Florida now. But uh anyway, thanks for taking the But uh anyway, thanks for taking the But uh anyway, thanks for taking the call and uh I appreciate it. I listen to call and uh I appreciate it. I listen to call and uh I appreciate it. I listen to you guys every week. Um more than once a you guys every week. Um more than once a you guys every week. Um more than once a week actually, probably every other day. week actually, probably every other day. week actually, probably every other day. But uh I just wanted to, you know, you But uh I just wanted to, you know, you But uh I just wanted to, you know, you guys are the experts in this and I know guys are the experts in this and I know guys are the experts in this and I know a couple of you guys did some physique a couple of you guys did some physique a couple of you guys did some physique competition. So I'll give you a little competition. So I'll give you a little competition. So I'll give you a little background on myself and then what what background on myself and then what what background on myself and then what what you know, I'm looking for some advice you know, I'm looking for some advice you know, I'm looking for some advice on. um always worked out my whole life on. um always worked out my whole life on. um always worked out my whole life except for like a three short year uh except for like a three short year uh except for like a three short year uh threeear span when my wife got pregnant. threeear span when my wife got pregnant. threeear span when my wife got pregnant. I decided to get pregnant with her about I decided to get pregnant with her about I decided to get pregnant with her about 20 year 23 years ago with my daughter. 20 year 23 years ago with my daughter. 20 year 23 years ago with my daughter. >> Uh so during that time it was the only >> Uh so during that time it was the only >> Uh so during that time it was the only time I was kind of a little out of shape time I was kind of a little out of shape time I was kind of a little out of shape but then got back into it again. I got but then got back into it again. I got but then got back into it again. I got heavily into uh triathlons, iron man heavily into uh triathlons, iron man heavily into uh triathlons, iron man distance. I did a bunch of uh Iron Man, distance. I did a bunch of uh Iron Man, distance. I did a bunch of uh Iron Man, bunch of half iron men, about 40 bunch of half iron men, about 40 bunch of half iron men, about 40 marathons. I don't know how many there marathons. I don't know how many there marathons. I don't know how many there were, but um I did all that kind of were, but um I did all that kind of were, but um I did all that kind of endurance uh sport activity until 2023 endurance uh sport activity until 2023 endurance uh sport activity until 2023 and um at that time I had a herniated and um at that time I had a herniated and um at that time I had a herniated disc. I went to get surgery and uh had disc. I went to get surgery and uh had disc. I went to get surgery and uh had some real major complications during some real major complications during some real major complications during surgery. Caused paralysis on my left surgery. Caused paralysis on my left surgery. Caused paralysis on my left leg, couldn't walk. Um I started to leg, couldn't walk. Um I started to leg, couldn't walk. Um I started to gain, you know, he heavy recovery and gain, you know, he heavy recovery and gain, you know, he heavy recovery and and a lot of rehab. worked my ass off of and a lot of rehab. worked my ass off of and a lot of rehab. worked my ass off of that and was able to get most of the that and was able to get most of the that and was able to get most of the function back in my leg and uh just have function back in my leg and uh just have function back in my leg and uh just have like weakness now in in like the um like weakness now in in like the um like weakness now in in like the um support muscles of the leg like the support muscles of the leg like the support muscles of the leg like the ankle area. So if I run and I'm on an ankle area. So if I run and I'm on an ankle area. So if I run and I'm on an uneven surface I could flow over. So I uneven surface I could flow over. So I uneven surface I could flow over. So I decided to obviously uh stop doing decided to obviously uh stop doing decided to obviously uh stop doing triathlon and marathons and got into triathlon and marathons and got into triathlon and marathons and got into physique um physique training uh for for physique um physique training uh for for physique um physique training uh for for you know shows and uh I also on the side you know shows and uh I also on the side you know shows and uh I also on the side do Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I know I I don't do Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I know I I don't do Brazilian jiu-jitsu. I know I I don't remember which one of you guys do it, remember which one of you guys do it, remember which one of you guys do it, but I know one of you guys do it. So, I but I know one of you guys do it. So, I but I know one of you guys do it. So, I do that as well. I've been doing that do that as well. I've been doing that do that as well. I've been doing that for 20 years. I'm uh should be a black for 20 years. I'm uh should be a black for 20 years. I'm uh should be a black belt by now, but with all my uh belt by now, but with all my uh belt by now, but with all my uh injuries, I stopped a couple of times, injuries, I stopped a couple of times, injuries, I stopped a couple of times, so I'm a a brown belt. And uh so I do so I'm a a brown belt. And uh so I do so I'm a a brown belt. And uh so I do that. Um and I I'm training for shows. I that. Um and I I'm training for shows. I that. Um and I I'm training for shows. I I did about six shows. And this is where I did about six shows. And this is where I did about six shows. And this is where my issue is. I am very tight on my uh my issue is. I am very tight on my uh my issue is. I am very tight on my uh diet, very very disciplined on my diet, very very disciplined on my diet, very very disciplined on my workouts. I don't miss a day. probably workouts. I don't miss a day. probably workouts. I don't miss a day. probably even I I don't follow my own uh guidance even I I don't follow my own uh guidance even I I don't follow my own uh guidance to people because I do some personal to people because I do some personal to people because I do some personal training and and coaching on the side training and and coaching on the side training and and coaching on the side myself. I never take any days off, but I myself. I never take any days off, but I myself. I never take any days off, but I I take muscle parts off, muscle groups I take muscle parts off, muscle groups I take muscle parts off, muscle groups off. Um my diet's really tight for the off. Um my diet's really tight for the off. Um my diet's really tight for the shows. Uh last show I went in with a shows. Uh last show I went in with a shows. Uh last show I went in with a really really good package. I was 2.8% really really good package. I was 2.8% really really good package. I was 2.8% body fat. I did it on three inbody body fat. I did it on three inbody body fat. I did it on three inbody machines. It was like 0.1 plus or minus machines. It was like 0.1 plus or minus machines. It was like 0.1 plus or minus and I was 168 lbs. Offseason I'm about and I was 168 lbs. Offseason I'm about and I was 168 lbs. Offseason I'm about 185. I have a coach. My coach um I I I 185. I have a coach. My coach um I I I 185. I have a coach. My coach um I I I had a coach in New Jersey when I was had a coach in New Jersey when I was had a coach in New Jersey when I was there. I'm trying to find a coach in in there. I'm trying to find a coach in in there. I'm trying to find a coach in in Florida, which I think I found one. He Florida, which I think I found one. He Florida, which I think I found one. He wants me to get up to like 200 lb and wants me to get up to like 200 lb and wants me to get up to like 200 lb and get to like 185 for my next show. But my get to like 185 for my next show. But my get to like 185 for my next show. But my issue is I can't get out away from issue is I can't get out away from issue is I can't get out away from second place. Um I'm 51 second place. Um I'm 51 second place. Um I'm 51 and I'm in the So I'm in the 50 and and I'm in the So I'm in the 50 and and I'm in the So I'm in the 50 and older group. I go down um in the 40 and older group. I go down um in the 40 and older group. I go down um in the 40 and older group, too. So, I do both and I do older group, too. So, I do both and I do older group, too. So, I do both and I do like usually a novice or an open or like usually a novice or an open or like usually a novice or an open or something like that. The last show I was something like that. The last show I was something like that. The last show I was in, I had a pretty stacked uh 40 and in, I had a pretty stacked uh 40 and in, I had a pretty stacked uh 40 and over group. It was like 15 guys in there over group. It was like 15 guys in there over group. It was like 15 guys in there and I came in second and then the 50 and and I came in second and then the 50 and and I came in second and then the 50 and older I came in second again. And the older I came in second again. And the older I came in second again. And the the shows I did before that I'm like the shows I did before that I'm like the shows I did before that I'm like like third, second, whatever, somewhere like third, second, whatever, somewhere like third, second, whatever, somewhere in that ballpark. My problem is I think in that ballpark. My problem is I think in that ballpark. My problem is I think I'm fit. I had the fitness that the show I'm fit. I had the fitness that the show I'm fit. I had the fitness that the show is requiring. Um, but I don't have the is requiring. Um, but I don't have the is requiring. Um, but I don't have the size and I'm I'm struggling with putting size and I'm I'm struggling with putting size and I'm I'm struggling with putting size on and I I have enough uh awareness size on and I I have enough uh awareness size on and I I have enough uh awareness to know that I have a little dysmorphia to know that I have a little dysmorphia to know that I have a little dysmorphia when it comes down to getting a little when it comes down to getting a little when it comes down to getting a little belly fat when you're trying to put on belly fat when you're trying to put on belly fat when you're trying to put on size. But I just wanted to get your guys size. But I just wanted to get your guys size. But I just wanted to get your guys input on, you know, maybe a maybe I input on, you know, maybe a maybe I input on, you know, maybe a maybe I should change up my program. I guess should change up my program. I guess should change up my program. I guess every coach needs a coach, right? So I every coach needs a coach, right? So I every coach needs a coach, right? So I maybe I should change my program. Maybe maybe I should change my program. Maybe maybe I should change my program. Maybe I I need to do something a little I I need to do something a little I I need to do something a little different with my diet. And I just different with my diet. And I just different with my diet. And I just wanted to get your insight on that. I wanted to get your insight on that. I wanted to get your insight on that. I have uh I have a lot of thoughts. Um have uh I have a lot of thoughts. Um have uh I have a lot of thoughts. Um first of all, taking second is first of all, taking second is first of all, taking second is incredible. Okay, so that's first and incredible. Okay, so that's first and incredible. Okay, so that's first and foremost amongst everything that you do, foremost amongst everything that you do, foremost amongst everything that you do, right? I mean, your full-time work, right? I mean, your full-time work, right? I mean, your full-time work, kicking ass, jiu-jitsu, and you still kicking ass, jiu-jitsu, and you still kicking ass, jiu-jitsu, and you still have the ability to get up on stage and have the ability to get up on stage and have the ability to get up on stage and finish in the top five is impressive as finish in the top five is impressive as finish in the top five is impressive as [ __ ] Second, um you have to know by [ __ ] Second, um you have to know by [ __ ] Second, um you have to know by now, if you've been doing this enough now, if you've been doing this enough now, if you've been doing this enough times, there's a lot of politics in times, there's a lot of politics in times, there's a lot of politics in shows, too. So, it's not always the best shows, too. So, it's not always the best shows, too. So, it's not always the best physique technically takes first place. physique technically takes first place. physique technically takes first place. A lot of times, it's the guy who's being A lot of times, it's the guy who's being A lot of times, it's the guy who's being coached by the guy who sponsors the show coached by the guy who sponsors the show coached by the guy who sponsors the show and gives the most money to make sure and gives the most money to make sure and gives the most money to make sure that show keeps operating. So, there's a that show keeps operating. So, there's a that show keeps operating. So, there's a lot of [ __ ] and politics in lot of [ __ ] and politics in lot of [ __ ] and politics in bodybuilding, as you probably know. If bodybuilding, as you probably know. If bodybuilding, as you probably know. If you don't know, there is. So, and if if you don't know, there is. So, and if if you don't know, there is. So, and if if you're not part of the click, it's tough you're not part of the click, it's tough you're not part of the click, it's tough to take first place no matter how great to take first place no matter how great to take first place no matter how great of a physique you present. So that all of a physique you present. So that all of a physique you present. So that all aside cuz uh I do agree with your coach. aside cuz uh I do agree with your coach. aside cuz uh I do agree with your coach. I tell what I tell always all of my I tell what I tell always all of my I tell what I tell always all of my competitors shows are won in the off competitors shows are won in the off competitors shows are won in the off season. What you bring to the the stage season. What you bring to the the stage season. What you bring to the the stage it's it isn't where it wins the show. it's it isn't where it wins the show. it's it isn't where it wins the show. That's what reveals the hard work from That's what reveals the hard work from That's what reveals the hard work from the off season. And so I do kind of the off season. And so I do kind of the off season. And so I do kind of agree with the whether the the poundage agree with the whether the the poundage agree with the whether the the poundage that he's saying is exactly right. But that he's saying is exactly right. But that he's saying is exactly right. But you got to gain. We got to we if we're you got to gain. We got to we if we're you got to gain. We got to we if we're going to show up with a bigger full going to show up with a bigger full going to show up with a bigger full especially if the judges that's their especially if the judges that's their especially if the judges that's their feedback is h you're a little smaller feedback is h you're a little smaller feedback is h you're a little smaller than the other guy and we need to put so than the other guy and we need to put so than the other guy and we need to put so and and that and that is all done in the and and that and that is all done in the and and that and that is all done in the offseason is can you put enough size on offseason is can you put enough size on offseason is can you put enough size on in the offseason that when we get ready in the offseason that when we get ready in the offseason that when we get ready to cut for the show we have the the to cut for the show we have the the to cut for the show we have the the biggest version of you to reveal. It's biggest version of you to reveal. It's biggest version of you to reveal. It's not done in it's not your cut. It's not not done in it's not your cut. It's not not done in it's not your cut. It's not a lack of your diet. It's not a lack of a lack of your diet. It's not a lack of a lack of your diet. It's not a lack of your discipline to get down to two 2 3% your discipline to get down to two 2 3% your discipline to get down to two 2 3% which you obviously can do all that. which you obviously can do all that. which you obviously can do all that. It's can you work through the mental It's can you work through the mental It's can you work through the mental part of putting on and you're going to part of putting on and you're going to part of putting on and you're going to have to carry a little bit of body fat have to carry a little bit of body fat have to carry a little bit of body fat to put on that kind of size. Like you to put on that kind of size. Like you to put on that kind of size. Like you could staying lean and putting 20 lbs of could staying lean and putting 20 lbs of could staying lean and putting 20 lbs of muscle on is nearly impossible. So muscle on is nearly impossible. So muscle on is nearly impossible. So you're going to have to eat to get big you're going to have to eat to get big you're going to have to eat to get big and most likely not move as much as you and most likely not move as much as you and most likely not move as much as you move in order to kind of put that size move in order to kind of put that size move in order to kind of put that size on. And it's that's where the show is on. And it's that's where the show is on. And it's that's where the show is one. The the show is one in what you can one. The the show is one in what you can one. The the show is one in what you can do in the offseason to get ready for the do in the offseason to get ready for the do in the offseason to get ready for the ne the next show or you kind of just ne the next show or you kind of just ne the next show or you kind of just keep kicking ass like you are too. I keep kicking ass like you are too. I keep kicking ass like you are too. I mean, if you're my client, you and I are mean, if you're my client, you and I are mean, if you're my client, you and I are having a little bit of this back and having a little bit of this back and having a little bit of this back and forth conversation and I'm going, Rob, forth conversation and I'm going, Rob, forth conversation and I'm going, Rob, like, is it that important to win first? like, is it that important to win first? like, is it that important to win first? Like, if you want to really win first Like, if you want to really win first Like, if you want to really win first above above all things, then then we above above all things, then then we above above all things, then then we start to shift your whole life around start to shift your whole life around start to shift your whole life around bodybuilding and it starts thinking that bodybuilding and it starts thinking that bodybuilding and it starts thinking that way. But it sounds like you're pretty way. But it sounds like you're pretty way. But it sounds like you're pretty goddamn impressive with everything that goddamn impressive with everything that goddamn impressive with everything that you that you already kind of do. And and you that you already kind of do. And and you that you already kind of do. And and that was kind of my attitude on that was kind of my attitude on that was kind of my attitude on competing was like, I'm competitive as competing was like, I'm competitive as competing was like, I'm competitive as [ __ ] Like getting to the pro level was [ __ ] Like getting to the pro level was [ __ ] Like getting to the pro level was a was the big major accomplishment for a was the big major accomplishment for a was the big major accomplishment for me. I never placed above sixth place at me. I never placed above sixth place at me. I never placed above sixth place at the pro level and I never cared enough the pro level and I never cared enough the pro level and I never cared enough because I have a career and it was because I have a career and it was because I have a career and it was always about building that and I have always about building that and I have always about building that and I have other things that were important to me other things that were important to me other things that were important to me and I and I proved to myself that I and I and I proved to myself that I and I and I proved to myself that I could I could show up with a better could I could show up with a better could I could show up with a better package every single show and I got a a package every single show and I got a a package every single show and I got a a handful of trophies to show that and handful of trophies to show that and handful of trophies to show that and it's cool but it's like if I really it's cool but it's like if I really it's cool but it's like if I really wanted to make a career out of this and wanted to make a career out of this and wanted to make a career out of this and try and make it to Olympia or be first try and make it to Olympia or be first try and make it to Olympia or be first place as a pro, man, it it's it's a lot place as a pro, man, it it's it's a lot place as a pro, man, it it's it's a lot of politics. It's a lot of sacrificing of politics. It's a lot of sacrificing of politics. It's a lot of sacrificing everything else in your life and I don't everything else in your life and I don't everything else in your life and I don't know. Sounds like you're kicking ass know. Sounds like you're kicking ass know. Sounds like you're kicking ass pretty good, dude. So, that's that's pretty good, dude. So, that's that's pretty good, dude. So, that's that's kind of all my thoughts. So, I'd like to kind of all my thoughts. So, I'd like to kind of all my thoughts. So, I'd like to hear what you think from hearing that. hear what you think from hearing that. hear what you think from hearing that. >> No, I appreciate that. I mean, look, I I >> No, I appreciate that. I mean, look, I I >> No, I appreciate that. I mean, look, I I I have a full-time job. This is I have a full-time job. This is I have a full-time job. This is definitely not my job. I'm an executive definitely not my job. I'm an executive definitely not my job. I'm an executive in a in a medtech company, so I'm in a in a medtech company, so I'm in a in a medtech company, so I'm traveling all over the place, and it's traveling all over the place, and it's traveling all over the place, and it's really tough, as you can imagine. I really tough, as you can imagine. I really tough, as you can imagine. I mean, you did shows, so you know what mean, you did shows, so you know what mean, you did shows, so you know what it's like prepping and being out in it's like prepping and being out in it's like prepping and being out in hotels like uh every week basically and hotels like uh every week basically and hotels like uh every week basically and eating eating out and and doing what you eating eating out and and doing what you eating eating out and and doing what you need to do. I'm weighing food in front need to do. I'm weighing food in front need to do. I'm weighing food in front of customers. is hysterical. But um it of customers. is hysterical. But um it of customers. is hysterical. But um it actually makes for good conversation, actually makes for good conversation, actually makes for good conversation, too. But uh nevertheless, um I I you too. But uh nevertheless, um I I you too. But uh nevertheless, um I I you know, my goal because I'm a very know, my goal because I'm a very know, my goal because I'm a very obviously a very competitive person. obviously a very competitive person. obviously a very competitive person. I've been in competitions my whole life. I've been in competitions my whole life. I've been in competitions my whole life. Um I'm looking to get first so I could Um I'm looking to get first so I could Um I'm looking to get first so I could get a pro card and I'm not going to get a pro card and I'm not going to get a pro card and I'm not going to Olympia and I'm not looking to even Olympia and I'm not looking to even Olympia and I'm not looking to even probably go into a pro show. I just want probably go into a pro show. I just want probably go into a pro show. I just want to, you know, get a pro card and that's to, you know, get a pro card and that's to, you know, get a pro card and that's my goal just like getting a black belt my goal just like getting a black belt my goal just like getting a black belt in jiu-jitsu is. The question that I in jiu-jitsu is. The question that I in jiu-jitsu is. The question that I have is, do you think there's a program have is, do you think there's a program have is, do you think there's a program that I should be doing um training that I should be doing um training that I should be doing um training differently that I'm training now? Uh I differently that I'm training now? Uh I differently that I'm training now? Uh I I guess I guess I guess >> foodwise. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, like >> foodwise. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, like >> foodwise. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, like what what just hearing kind of your what what just hearing kind of your what what just hearing kind of your breakdown of who you are like and breakdown of who you are like and breakdown of who you are like and obviously if we were coaching I would obviously if we were coaching I would obviously if we were coaching I would get even even more detail, but I I would get even even more detail, but I I would get even even more detail, but I I would probably have to scale back your amount probably have to scale back your amount probably have to scale back your amount of activity and volume and really feed of activity and volume and really feed of activity and volume and really feed you. So, it look more like an MAPS you. So, it look more like an MAPS you. So, it look more like an MAPS anabolic type of protocol. less days in anabolic type of protocol. less days in anabolic type of protocol. less days in the gym, hitting it hard and heavy when the gym, hitting it hard and heavy when the gym, hitting it hard and heavy when we do, trying to gain and build, and we do, trying to gain and build, and we do, trying to gain and build, and more food. So, I would I would I would more food. So, I would I would I would more food. So, I would I would I would push the calories, and I'd have you on a push the calories, and I'd have you on a push the calories, and I'd have you on a program like a maps anabolic type of a program like a maps anabolic type of a program like a maps anabolic type of a program, which I bet is way less volume program, which I bet is way less volume program, which I bet is way less volume and days in the gym than you. It's a and days in the gym than you. It's a and days in the gym than you. It's a three-day a week full body routine, and three-day a week full body routine, and three-day a week full body routine, and I bet you're more of a 5 to seven day a I bet you're more of a 5 to seven day a I bet you're more of a 5 to seven day a week type of guy who trains and probably week type of guy who trains and probably week type of guy who trains and probably hour and Yeah. So, and and that's going hour and Yeah. So, and and that's going hour and Yeah. So, and and that's going to seem counterintuitive because it's to seem counterintuitive because it's to seem counterintuitive because it's not a lack of you need to push more. You not a lack of you need to push more. You not a lack of you need to push more. You need to let your body grow. And in order need to let your body grow. And in order need to let your body grow. And in order to let your body grow, you probably got to let your body grow, you probably got to let your body grow, you probably got to pull back on the volume a little bit. to pull back on the volume a little bit. to pull back on the volume a little bit. Focus on getting strong with Maps Focus on getting strong with Maps Focus on getting strong with Maps Anabolic. Feed your body more food than Anabolic. Feed your body more food than Anabolic. Feed your body more food than it's ever been fed before. And that's it's ever been fed before. And that's it's ever been fed before. And that's that that is that's the the way we're that that is that's the the way we're that that is that's the the way we're going to get to the pro card. going to get to the pro card. going to get to the pro card. >> Rob, do you train naturally or are you >> Rob, do you train naturally or are you >> Rob, do you train naturally or are you enhanced or you train naturally? enhanced or you train naturally? enhanced or you train naturally? >> No, I'm natural. Yeah, I'm Well, that's >> No, I'm natural. Yeah, I'm Well, that's >> No, I'm natural. Yeah, I'm Well, that's the other problem I have. Um I I take uh the other problem I have. Um I I take uh the other problem I have. Um I I take uh I take Well, I I I wouldn't say natural I take Well, I I I wouldn't say natural I take Well, I I I wouldn't say natural totally. I'm I I had very very low totally. I'm I I had very very low totally. I'm I I had very very low testosterone levels um when I was doing testosterone levels um when I was doing testosterone levels um when I was doing triathlon because I was a fanatic about triathlon because I was a fanatic about triathlon because I was a fanatic about eating fats. So, I just ate a lot of eating fats. So, I just ate a lot of eating fats. So, I just ate a lot of carbs and protein and then I did a I carbs and protein and then I did a I carbs and protein and then I did a I mean 20 plus hours a week on a bike and mean 20 plus hours a week on a bike and mean 20 plus hours a week on a bike and I think it kind of damaged my my uh my I think it kind of damaged my my uh my I think it kind of damaged my my uh my goods down there a little bit and I had goods down there a little bit and I had goods down there a little bit and I had when I went to go and get my when I went to go and get my when I went to go and get my testosterone checked uh it was 160. testosterone checked uh it was 160. testosterone checked uh it was 160. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, so I was on I've been on TRT since I >> So, so I was on I've been on TRT since I >> So, so I was on I've been on TRT since I was 35. Okay. um at regular levels like was 35. Okay. um at regular levels like was 35. Okay. um at regular levels like I think I just got a test that I'm like I think I just got a test that I'm like I think I just got a test that I'm like 450 480 something like that. So it's not 450 480 something like that. So it's not 450 480 something like that. So it's not like I'm pumping in 1,200 on my my t my like I'm pumping in 1,200 on my my t my like I'm pumping in 1,200 on my my t my test but I go into these shows and these test but I go into these shows and these test but I go into these shows and these dudes are no question because I can't go dudes are no question because I can't go dudes are no question because I can't go into a natural show being on into a natural show being on into a natural show being on testosterone. These guys are definitely testosterone. These guys are definitely testosterone. These guys are definitely enhanced. Well, the reason why I ask you enhanced. Well, the reason why I ask you enhanced. Well, the reason why I ask you that, Rob, is uh gaining cuz you know, that, Rob, is uh gaining cuz you know, that, Rob, is uh gaining cuz you know, if you go from you you competed at 168 if you go from you you competed at 168 if you go from you you competed at 168 to come back at 182, to come back at 182, to come back at 182, >> uh that's a lot of lean body mass to >> uh that's a lot of lean body mass to >> uh that's a lot of lean body mass to gain. Um that which is tough to do with, gain. Um that which is tough to do with, gain. Um that which is tough to do with, you know, TRT levels of testosterone and you know, TRT levels of testosterone and you know, TRT levels of testosterone and your age and all that stuff. Now, I do your age and all that stuff. Now, I do your age and all that stuff. Now, I do agree with Adam, reducing the volume, uh agree with Adam, reducing the volume, uh agree with Adam, reducing the volume, uh increasing calories, that's the that's increasing calories, that's the that's increasing calories, that's the that's the protocol. Now, here's the other the protocol. Now, here's the other the protocol. Now, here's the other thing, though. you you're you probably thing, though. you you're you probably thing, though. you you're you probably have an incredible recovery ability and have an incredible recovery ability and have an incredible recovery ability and tolerance considering your background to tolerance considering your background to tolerance considering your background to be able to compete in as many iron mans be able to compete in as many iron mans be able to compete in as many iron mans and half marathon and and half iron mans and half marathon and and half iron mans and half marathon and and half iron mans for people aren't aware an Iron Man is a for people aren't aware an Iron Man is a for people aren't aware an Iron Man is a marathon plus plus a lot of a lot of marathon plus plus a lot of a lot of marathon plus plus a lot of a lot of cycling a lot of swimming so uh if to be cycling a lot of swimming so uh if to be cycling a lot of swimming so uh if to be able to do that as often as you did you able to do that as often as you did you able to do that as often as you did you probably have a really exceptional probably have a really exceptional probably have a really exceptional ability to recover so the program that I ability to recover so the program that I ability to recover so the program that I think would do that you would do well think would do that you would do well think would do that you would do well with would be MAPS anabolic advanced. with would be MAPS anabolic advanced. with would be MAPS anabolic advanced. So, it's higher than MAPS anabolic. So, it's higher than MAPS anabolic. So, it's higher than MAPS anabolic. You're in the gym about four days a You're in the gym about four days a You're in the gym about four days a week. Uh, it alternates high intensity, week. Uh, it alternates high intensity, week. Uh, it alternates high intensity, low volume with higher volume, lower low volume with higher volume, lower low volume with higher volume, lower intensity. And I think someone like you intensity. And I think someone like you intensity. And I think someone like you would probably respond well to that. And would probably respond well to that. And would probably respond well to that. And it's probably I I I can pretty much it's probably I I I can pretty much it's probably I I I can pretty much guarantee it's less volume than what guarantee it's less volume than what guarantee it's less volume than what you're currently doing. So, it's you're currently doing. So, it's you're currently doing. So, it's definitely going to cut the volume. It's definitely going to cut the volume. It's definitely going to cut the volume. It's not as low as a traditional MAPS not as low as a traditional MAPS not as low as a traditional MAPS anabolic, which might actually be too anabolic, which might actually be too anabolic, which might actually be too low of volume for someone like you. Uh, low of volume for someone like you. Uh, low of volume for someone like you. Uh, and and bump the calories. and you and and bump the calories. and you and and bump the calories. and you you'll know it's working cuz you're you'll know it's working cuz you're you'll know it's working cuz you're going to get stronger. going to get stronger. going to get stronger. >> But gaining 12 to 15 lbs of lean body >> But gaining 12 to 15 lbs of lean body >> But gaining 12 to 15 lbs of lean body mass at this stage, mass at this stage, mass at this stage, >> that's a that's a big that's a big >> that's a that's a big that's a big >> that's a that's a big that's a big that's a big one. I think we could put that's a big one. I think we could put that's a big one. I think we could put on 5 to six pounds of lean body mass by on 5 to six pounds of lean body mass by on 5 to six pounds of lean body mass by the time you hit stage. the time you hit stage. the time you hit stage. >> It's just going to take us some time. >> It's just going to take us some time. >> It's just going to take us some time. It's going to take it takes us what what It's going to take it takes us what what It's going to take it takes us what what you don't want to do and I don't know if you don't want to do and I don't know if you don't want to do and I don't know if you've already done this or not, but you've already done this or not, but you've already done this or not, but like I tell my competitors like we don't like I tell my competitors like we don't like I tell my competitors like we don't we don't pick a show yet. like we go in we don't pick a show yet. like we go in we don't pick a show yet. like we go in the off seasonason, let's go build, the off seasonason, let's go build, the off seasonason, let's go build, let's go, let's go focus because this let's go, let's go focus because this let's go, let's go focus because this could take three months, could take six could take three months, could take six could take three months, could take six months, could take nine months, but months, could take nine months, but months, could take nine months, but let's agree that we're going to go build let's agree that we're going to go build let's agree that we're going to go build and put some size on you that you've and put some size on you that you've and put some size on you that you've never seen before and then we're then never seen before and then we're then never seen before and then we're then we'll get then we'll then we'll nail we'll get then we'll then we'll nail we'll get then we'll then we'll nail down a show. What a mistake a lot of down a show. What a mistake a lot of down a show. What a mistake a lot of competitors do is they go, "Oh, this competitors do is they go, "Oh, this competitors do is they go, "Oh, this works in my calendar. I'm going to I'm works in my calendar. I'm going to I'm works in my calendar. I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to train. I'm going going to I'm going to train. I'm going going to I'm going to train. I'm going to take that show August 16th and then to take that show August 16th and then to take that show August 16th and then you start trying to put it all you start trying to put it all you start trying to put it all together." Now, it's like, "No, let's go together." Now, it's like, "No, let's go together." Now, it's like, "No, let's go focus on your off season. Let's go focus on your off season. Let's go focus on your off season. Let's go build." And that could, you know, build." And that could, you know, build." And that could, you know, depending on how well you can get them depending on how well you can get them depending on how well you can get them calories up, how well you respond to calories up, how well you respond to calories up, how well you respond to Map's anabolic advance, that will Map's anabolic advance, that will Map's anabolic advance, that will dictate if I was coaching you on when we dictate if I was coaching you on when we dictate if I was coaching you on when we decide to take a show to get cut. decide to take a show to get cut. decide to take a show to get cut. >> What's your what do your what do your >> What's your what do your what do your >> What's your what do your what do your calories look like in the offseason? calories look like in the offseason? calories look like in the offseason? >> So, I'm supposed to be at 3,300 a day >> So, I'm supposed to be at 3,300 a day >> So, I'm supposed to be at 3,300 a day right now and I'm barely getting in right now and I'm barely getting in right now and I'm barely getting in 2500. 2500. 2500. >> Yeah. No way. >> Yeah. No way. >> Yeah. No way. >> Just be just because my I'm just like >> Just be just because my I'm just like >> Just be just because my I'm just like all over the damn place. But I all over the damn place. But I all over the damn place. But I everything I eat is clean as a whistle. everything I eat is clean as a whistle. everything I eat is clean as a whistle. Like I don't change what I eat from prep Like I don't change what I eat from prep Like I don't change what I eat from prep to show. I mean from prep prep to offse to show. I mean from prep prep to offse to show. I mean from prep prep to offse rather. rather. rather. >> Um I I just eat more volume off season. >> Um I I just eat more volume off season. >> Um I I just eat more volume off season. >> Um maybe I'll throw in like a couple of >> Um maybe I'll throw in like a couple of >> Um maybe I'll throw in like a couple of pretzels here or there, but I don't I pretzels here or there, but I don't I pretzels here or there, but I don't I don't do anything like out of the don't do anything like out of the don't do anything like out of the ordinary. Um maybe I'm a little bit ordinary. Um maybe I'm a little bit ordinary. Um maybe I'm a little bit tighter on the condiments too during tighter on the condiments too during tighter on the condiments too during prep, but overall I'm just not getting prep, but overall I'm just not getting prep, but overall I'm just not getting enough calories in. And part of it is enough calories in. And part of it is enough calories in. And part of it is because you guys know how this is man. because you guys know how this is man. because you guys know how this is man. You like I get a little belly fat and I You like I get a little belly fat and I You like I get a little belly fat and I lose my mind. You know what I mean? And lose my mind. You know what I mean? And lose my mind. You know what I mean? And it's I'm trying to put on some some mass it's I'm trying to put on some some mass it's I'm trying to put on some some mass at the same time. And then I go to the at the same time. And then I go to the at the same time. And then I go to the gym and I'm like, "All right, well, gym and I'm like, "All right, well, gym and I'm like, "All right, well, maybe I'll do more 10 more minutes of maybe I'll do more 10 more minutes of maybe I'll do more 10 more minutes of stair mass just to make sure I don't put stair mass just to make sure I don't put stair mass just to make sure I don't put that belly fat on in addition to my my that belly fat on in addition to my my that belly fat on in addition to my my half hour that I did prior to my workout half hour that I did prior to my workout half hour that I did prior to my workout and cardio and then do my workout." And and cardio and then do my workout." And and cardio and then do my workout." And I do that every freaking day. So, I'm I do that every freaking day. So, I'm I do that every freaking day. So, I'm like battling this in my head. But mind like battling this in my head. But mind like battling this in my head. But mind you, when I give the advice like you're you, when I give the advice like you're you, when I give the advice like you're giving to clients, giving to clients, giving to clients, >> I say the exact thing that you're >> I say the exact thing that you're >> I say the exact thing that you're saying. So, saying. So, saying. So, >> well, you I mean, uh I mean, would you >> well, you I mean, uh I mean, would you >> well, you I mean, uh I mean, would you want a coach? I mean, it sounds like you want a coach? I mean, it sounds like you want a coach? I mean, it sounds like you have one over there. Uh we virtual coach have one over there. Uh we virtual coach have one over there. Uh we virtual coach over here. over here. over here. >> Uh if do you do you think that would >> Uh if do you do you think that would >> Uh if do you do you think that would help having somebody who's kind of just help having somebody who's kind of just help having somebody who's kind of just staying on top of the the diet and kind staying on top of the the diet and kind staying on top of the the diet and kind of steering it for you? I mean, of steering it for you? I mean, of steering it for you? I mean, >> yeah. I Yeah, I wouldn't mind. >> yeah. I Yeah, I wouldn't mind. >> yeah. I Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Especially somebody that's been doing Especially somebody that's been doing Especially somebody that's been doing this kind of stuff before that knows how this kind of stuff before that knows how this kind of stuff before that knows how to deal with, you know, somebody that to deal with, you know, somebody that to deal with, you know, somebody that has a little bit of a mental struggle has a little bit of a mental struggle has a little bit of a mental struggle like me with this. like me with this. like me with this. >> All right. All right. We'll have >> All right. All right. We'll have >> All right. All right. We'll have somebody call you. But, you know, MAPS somebody call you. But, you know, MAPS somebody call you. But, you know, MAPS anabolic advanced hit consistent uh anabolic advanced hit consistent uh anabolic advanced hit consistent uh calorie targets. You'll gain you'll gain calorie targets. You'll gain you'll gain calorie targets. You'll gain you'll gain muscle on that. Yeah, for sure. But I muscle on that. Yeah, for sure. But I muscle on that. Yeah, for sure. But I mean, 2500 calories, mean, 2500 calories, mean, 2500 calories, >> a guy like you, you're you're going to >> a guy like you, you're you're going to >> a guy like you, you're you're going to you're just going to maintain. you're just going to maintain. you're just going to maintain. >> The the hard part is going to be the >> The the hard part is going to be the >> The the hard part is going to be the mental part, Rob. I can tell already. mental part, Rob. I can tell already. mental part, Rob. I can tell already. You're disciplined guy. You have you You're disciplined guy. You have you You're disciplined guy. You have you have the work ethic and all that stuff have the work ethic and all that stuff have the work ethic and all that stuff like that. It's going to be uh letting like that. It's going to be uh letting like that. It's going to be uh letting go of the body fat percentage going up a go of the body fat percentage going up a go of the body fat percentage going up a little bit. You know, you have the tools little bit. You know, you have the tools little bit. You know, you have the tools to get it back anytime you want. So, to get it back anytime you want. So, to get it back anytime you want. So, you're not going to get fat, okay? you're not going to get fat, okay? you're not going to get fat, okay? You're going to go you're going to go up You're going to go you're going to go up You're going to go you're going to go up to 12, maybe 13, you know, percent body to 12, maybe 13, you know, percent body to 12, maybe 13, you know, percent body fat. That's not crazy. You can get right fat. That's not crazy. You can get right fat. That's not crazy. You can get right back down easily, but you it that will back down easily, but you it that will back down easily, but you it that will bode well with building. If you're too bode well with building. If you're too bode well with building. If you're too lean, it's really hard to put on just lean, it's really hard to put on just lean, it's really hard to put on just lean body mass. Like you're you're So lean body mass. Like you're you're So lean body mass. Like you're you're So you we you you got to let yourself you we you you got to let yourself you we you you got to let yourself soften up a little bit to put on some soften up a little bit to put on some soften up a little bit to put on some good size. good size. good size. >> Um and again, I don't know if I agreed >> Um and again, I don't know if I agreed >> Um and again, I don't know if I agreed exactly with the number the guy threw at exactly with the number the guy threw at exactly with the number the guy threw at you, but the show is one in the you, but the show is one in the you, but the show is one in the offseason. Can you and I go and go put offseason. Can you and I go and go put offseason. Can you and I go and go put on, you know, 20 pounds on the scale, be on, you know, 20 pounds on the scale, be on, you know, 20 pounds on the scale, be okay with a couple percent body fat okay with a couple percent body fat okay with a couple percent body fat going up, but then look at each other going up, but then look at each other going up, but then look at each other and go like, "Oh, yeah. You're eating and go like, "Oh, yeah. You're eating and go like, "Oh, yeah. You're eating 3,500 calories, you're strong, you you 3,500 calories, you're strong, you you 3,500 calories, you're strong, you you see PRs in the gym, you're hitting like, see PRs in the gym, you're hitting like, see PRs in the gym, you're hitting like, that's what I'm looking for before you that's what I'm looking for before you that's what I'm looking for before you and I go, let's get ready for a cut for and I go, let's get ready for a cut for and I go, let's get ready for a cut for for the show." for the show." for the show." >> So, >> So, >> So, >> okay. Yeah, that makes sense. >> okay. Yeah, that makes sense. >> okay. Yeah, that makes sense. >> Yeah. I I'll have someone call you and >> Yeah. I I'll have someone call you and >> Yeah. I I'll have someone call you and and see if we can help you out through and see if we can help you out through and see if we can help you out through this process. But and we'll also send this process. But and we'll also send this process. But and we'll also send over an anabolic advance for you, bro. over an anabolic advance for you, bro. over an anabolic advance for you, bro. >> That would be awesome, man. Thank you >> That would be awesome, man. Thank you >> That would be awesome, man. Thank you guys. You guys do great work. I guys. You guys do great work. I guys. You guys do great work. I appreciate it. Enjoy listening. appreciate it. Enjoy listening. appreciate it. Enjoy listening. >> Thanks, Rob. >> Thanks, Rob. >> Thanks, Rob. >> Take it easy. >> Take it easy. >> Take it easy. >> Do so for people listening cuz how many >> Do so for people listening cuz how many >> Do so for people listening cuz how many Iron Man's brother? Iron Man's brother? Iron Man's brother? >> He did five. He did five iron mans. I >> He did five. He did five iron mans. I >> He did five. He did five iron mans. I don't know. Have you guys ever trained don't know. Have you guys ever trained don't know. Have you guys ever trained Iron Man athlete? Iron Man athlete? Iron Man athlete? >> Yeah. Okay. He did five iron man's 15 >> Yeah. Okay. He did five iron man's 15 >> Yeah. Okay. He did five iron man's 15 half insane half insane half insane >> iron man. This is what an Iron Man >> iron man. This is what an Iron Man >> iron man. This is what an Iron Man competition is. I had to remember. I had competition is. I had to remember. I had competition is. I had to remember. I had to look it up just to be sure. to look it up just to be sure. to look it up just to be sure. >> It's a 2.4 4 mile swim >> It's a 2.4 4 mile swim >> It's a 2.4 4 mile swim >> plus a 112 112 mile bike ride and then >> plus a 112 112 mile bike ride and then >> plus a 112 112 mile bike ride and then you run a marathon you run a marathon you run a marathon >> and then you run a mar that's the >> and then you run a mar that's the >> and then you run a mar that's the competition competition competition >> lot of chiefing >> lot of chiefing >> lot of chiefing >> yeah so uh now in order to be able to do >> yeah so uh now in order to be able to do >> yeah so uh now in order to be able to do all that crazy training consistency diet all that crazy training consistency diet all that crazy training consistency diet there's a level of genetics there I I there's a level of genetics there I I there's a level of genetics there I I think the guy probably recovers really think the guy probably recovers really think the guy probably recovers really really well really well really well >> which is why I had him do uh yeah >> which is why I had him do uh yeah >> which is why I had him do uh yeah something with higher volume but I can something with higher volume but I can something with higher volume but I can guarantee you right now the amount of guarantee you right now the amount of guarantee you right now the amount of volume that he's probably training is volume that he's probably training is volume that he's probably training is probably insane probably insane probably insane >> oh I knew I knew right away I can I >> oh I knew I knew right away I can I >> oh I knew I knew right away I can I mean, this is a this is I mean, he's all mean, this is a this is I mean, he's all mean, this is a this is I mean, he's all I mean, he's also runs a what a I mean, he's also runs a what a I mean, he's also runs a what a Fortune50 company. He's a jiu-jitsu. Fortune50 company. He's a jiu-jitsu. Fortune50 company. He's a jiu-jitsu. >> He's a killer in business. He's a killer >> He's a killer in business. He's a killer >> He's a killer in business. He's a killer on the jiu-jitsu, mad. He's I mean, I on the jiu-jitsu, mad. He's I mean, I on the jiu-jitsu, mad. He's I mean, I without even see cuz I can't see him, without even see cuz I can't see him, without even see cuz I can't see him, right? I like we can't see a picture of right? I like we can't see a picture of right? I like we can't see a picture of what he looks like and stuff like that. what he looks like and stuff like that. what he looks like and stuff like that. I just know this dude is I just know this dude is I just know this dude is >> way overtrained, way overd does all of >> way overtrained, way overd does all of >> way overtrained, way overd does all of it. And that's going to be the hardest it. And that's going to be the hardest it. And that's going to be the hardest part for him. I mean, telling him to part for him. I mean, telling him to part for him. I mean, telling him to come down to a maps anabolic or even an come down to a maps anabolic or even an come down to a maps anabolic or even an anabolic advance is going to feel like a anabolic advance is going to feel like a anabolic advance is going to feel like a quarter of the workouts that he does quarter of the workouts that he does quarter of the workouts that he does then telling him that he's at 2500 then telling him that he's at 2500 then telling him that he's at 2500 calories, you need to be more like 3500 calories, you need to be more like 3500 calories, you need to be more like 3500 plus calories is going to feel so plus calories is going to feel so plus calories is going to feel so extreme and different, but it's the only extreme and different, but it's the only extreme and different, but it's the only path. And again, repeat what I said to path. And again, repeat what I said to path. And again, repeat what I said to him. Shows are one in the off season. him. Shows are one in the off season. him. Shows are one in the off season. >> It is not the prep. It is not the >> It is not the prep. It is not the >> It is not the prep. It is not the getting ready for stage like everybody getting ready for stage like everybody getting ready for stage like everybody thinks. It's what you build and what you thinks. It's what you build and what you thinks. It's what you build and what you do in the off season. All the getting do in the off season. All the getting do in the off season. All the getting the prep is is revealing the work. You the prep is is revealing the work. You the prep is is revealing the work. You don't build no muscle in prep. don't build no muscle in prep. don't build no muscle in prep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You literally just you carve away the >> You literally just you carve away the >> You literally just you carve away the body fat and you show what you did in body fat and you show what you did in body fat and you show what you did in the off season. And if you always keep the off season. And if you always keep the off season. And if you always keep your body fat percentage low and you your body fat percentage low and you your body fat percentage low and you stay training this high of volume and stay training this high of volume and stay training this high of volume and your calories that low, you aren't your calories that low, you aren't your calories that low, you aren't building anything. You're you're building anything. You're you're building anything. You're you're maintaining a strong fit ripped maintaining a strong fit ripped maintaining a strong fit ripped physique. So when you get into prep, you physique. So when you get into prep, you physique. So when you get into prep, you just get a little bit leaner and you just get a little bit leaner and you just get a little bit leaner and you present the same physique. This keeps present the same physique. This keeps present the same physique. This keeps showing up the same showing up the same showing up the same >> same way. Yeah. >> same way. Yeah. >> same way. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Our next caller is Lucy from Virginia. >> Our next caller is Lucy from Virginia. >> Our next caller is Lucy from Virginia. >> Hi, Lucy. >> Hi, Lucy. >> Hi, Lucy. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Thank Thank you guys so much for taking >> Thank Thank you guys so much for taking >> Thank Thank you guys so much for taking my call. I really appreciate it. Um, my call. I really appreciate it. Um, my call. I really appreciate it. Um, >> how can we help you? >> how can we help you? >> how can we help you? >> I think I have a programming question. >> I think I have a programming question. >> I think I have a programming question. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um, four months ago, November 2025, >> Um, four months ago, November 2025, >> Um, four months ago, November 2025, I had my third total hip replacement I had my third total hip replacement I had my third total hip replacement surgery. surgery. surgery. For reasons that are now very obvious to For reasons that are now very obvious to For reasons that are now very obvious to me, I was overdoing it with my yoga. and me, I was overdoing it with my yoga. and me, I was overdoing it with my yoga. and in May of 2025 almost dislocated and in May of 2025 almost dislocated and in May of 2025 almost dislocated and ultimately ended up cracking my hip ultimately ended up cracking my hip ultimately ended up cracking my hip replacement during yoga class. Because replacement during yoga class. Because replacement during yoga class. Because the surgery was a repair of an existing the surgery was a repair of an existing the surgery was a repair of an existing replacement, they had to use posterior replacement, they had to use posterior replacement, they had to use posterior entry rather than anterior, which my entry rather than anterior, which my entry rather than anterior, which my first two were anterior. first two were anterior. first two were anterior. And with a posterior approach, my And with a posterior approach, my And with a posterior approach, my surgeon has me on a one-year limitation surgeon has me on a one-year limitation surgeon has me on a one-year limitation of movement, which would include no more of movement, which would include no more of movement, which would include no more than 90° hip like um trunk to leg than 90° hip like um trunk to leg than 90° hip like um trunk to leg >> angle, no crossing my legs, and no >> angle, no crossing my legs, and no >> angle, no crossing my legs, and no picking up anything over 20 pounds. So, picking up anything over 20 pounds. So, picking up anything over 20 pounds. So, starting in December, I ran your MAPS starting in December, I ran your MAPS starting in December, I ran your MAPS band program all the way through and band program all the way through and band program all the way through and loved it. Uh I'm now running MAP loved it. Uh I'm now running MAP loved it. Uh I'm now running MAP suspension and also love that. Uh, those suspension and also love that. Uh, those suspension and also love that. Uh, those are both perfect because I don't have to are both perfect because I don't have to are both perfect because I don't have to pick up anything over 20 pounds, but I'm pick up anything over 20 pounds, but I'm pick up anything over 20 pounds, but I'm still getting great resistance. Um, I'm still getting great resistance. Um, I'm still getting great resistance. Um, I'm actually making progress. actually making progress. actually making progress. >> All right, great job. >> All right, great job. >> All right, great job. >> I'm sore >> I'm sore >> I'm sore >> from yesterday. Um, but my next my >> from yesterday. Um, but my next my >> from yesterday. Um, but my next my question is what's next? Um, I have question is what's next? Um, I have question is what's next? Um, I have until November, so about nine months of until November, so about nine months of until November, so about nine months of these limitations. these limitations. these limitations. Should I just cycle back and forth in Should I just cycle back and forth in Should I just cycle back and forth in between these two programs? Uh, is there between these two programs? Uh, is there between these two programs? Uh, is there another program or style of programming another program or style of programming another program or style of programming that you would recommend like isometrics that you would recommend like isometrics that you would recommend like isometrics or maybe run a traditional program like or maybe run a traditional program like or maybe run a traditional program like anabolic with lightweights? Uh, for anabolic with lightweights? Uh, for anabolic with lightweights? Uh, for context, I will be 50 years old later context, I will be 50 years old later context, I will be 50 years old later this year, 5' 3, 120 lbs, and a former this year, 5' 3, 120 lbs, and a former this year, 5' 3, 120 lbs, and a former uh professional ballerina, runner, and uh professional ballerina, runner, and uh professional ballerina, runner, and competitive yoga athlete. All of which competitive yoga athlete. All of which competitive yoga athlete. All of which led to the three total hip replacements. led to the three total hip replacements. led to the three total hip replacements. Uh, I promise I'm now off of all of Uh, I promise I'm now off of all of Uh, I promise I'm now off of all of that. Uh, because I can't do it anymore. that. Uh, because I can't do it anymore. that. Uh, because I can't do it anymore. Um, physically or mentally really. Uh, Um, physically or mentally really. Uh, Um, physically or mentally really. Uh, as you know, sometimes God whispers and as you know, sometimes God whispers and as you know, sometimes God whispers and sometimes she shouts. This was as loud sometimes she shouts. This was as loud sometimes she shouts. This was as loud of a shout as I possibly could have of a shout as I possibly could have of a shout as I possibly could have heard without doing any detrimental heard without doing any detrimental heard without doing any detrimental harm. So, I'm so thankful I was finally harm. So, I'm so thankful I was finally harm. So, I'm so thankful I was finally forced to listen. Any help would be forced to listen. Any help would be forced to listen. Any help would be great. You can shout at me now. great. You can shout at me now. great. You can shout at me now. >> Yeah. No, no shouting. >> Yeah. No, no shouting. >> Yeah. No, no shouting. >> I thought you were in your 20s, by the >> I thought you were in your 20s, by the >> I thought you were in your 20s, by the way. way. way. >> We're all tripping out on that, right? >> We're all tripping out on that, right? >> We're all tripping out on that, right? So, so Lucy, yeah. Um, so here's what's So, so Lucy, yeah. Um, so here's what's So, so Lucy, yeah. Um, so here's what's going to happen. Uh, if you do going to happen. Uh, if you do going to happen. Uh, if you do everything right, you're going to reach everything right, you're going to reach everything right, you're going to reach a point where you feel like you could a point where you feel like you could a point where you feel like you could start doing going way beyond and you're start doing going way beyond and you're start doing going way beyond and you're going to have to fight that uh because going to have to fight that uh because going to have to fight that uh because of the hip replacement. Keep your range of the hip replacement. Keep your range of the hip replacement. Keep your range of motion uh within the realms of what of motion uh within the realms of what of motion uh within the realms of what they recommend. And you can strengthen they recommend. And you can strengthen they recommend. And you can strengthen within there. within there. within there. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And don't push outside of that. You >> And don't push outside of that. You >> And don't push outside of that. You could totally strengthen within there. could totally strengthen within there. could totally strengthen within there. >> Uh I think MAP starter is a good >> Uh I think MAP starter is a good >> Uh I think MAP starter is a good program. program. program. >> Um and isometrics are also great. Uh our >> Um and isometrics are also great. Uh our >> Um and isometrics are also great. Uh our program map symmetry has two weeks of program map symmetry has two weeks of program map symmetry has two weeks of isometrics. isometrics. isometrics. >> The two weeks of isometrics I think >> The two weeks of isometrics I think >> The two weeks of isometrics I think would be beneficial um even right now would be beneficial um even right now would be beneficial um even right now but starter would be the next program but starter would be the next program but starter would be the next program that you could totally do. that you could totally do. that you could totally do. >> You can also sorry yes the starter has >> You can also sorry yes the starter has >> You can also sorry yes the starter has like reps to tension. So like really like reps to tension. So like really like reps to tension. So like really take advantage of that with the timing take advantage of that with the timing take advantage of that with the timing and the tempo and then emphasize those and the tempo and then emphasize those and the tempo and then emphasize those moments where you're squeezing at the moments where you're squeezing at the moments where you're squeezing at the top of the rep. Uh so you do can you can top of the rep. Uh so you do can you can top of the rep. Uh so you do can you can infuse a bit of more isometric focus in infuse a bit of more isometric focus in infuse a bit of more isometric focus in that program. uh because I know the that program. uh because I know the that program. uh because I know the weights are going to be a little lighter weights are going to be a little lighter weights are going to be a little lighter than you know cuz we got to keep it than you know cuz we got to keep it than you know cuz we got to keep it under control. under control. under control. >> That's the direction I was going to go >> That's the direction I was going to go >> That's the direction I was going to go actually with your original is should I actually with your original is should I actually with your original is should I just rotate to those two? You can start just rotate to those two? You can start just rotate to those two? You can start to uh create isometrics in those two pro to uh create isometrics in those two pro to uh create isometrics in those two pro in the bands in the suspension trainer in the bands in the suspension trainer in the bands in the suspension trainer too. too. too. >> So like nothing stops you from like hold >> So like nothing stops you from like hold >> So like nothing stops you from like hold like let's say you're doing a a like let's say you're doing a a like let's say you're doing a a suspension push-up uh holding at the suspension push-up uh holding at the suspension push-up uh holding at the bottom for two or three seconds or bottom for two or three seconds or bottom for two or three seconds or holding just with your elbows slightly holding just with your elbows slightly holding just with your elbows slightly bent for like so you can kind of create bent for like so you can kind of create bent for like so you can kind of create to create like a new stimulus because to create like a new stimulus because to create like a new stimulus because you've already ran through it. the next you've already ran through it. the next you've already ran through it. the next time you run through it, you can do time you run through it, you can do time you run through it, you can do things like that and that'll help build things like that and that'll help build things like that and that'll help build strength also. So, run it the way it's strength also. So, run it the way it's strength also. So, run it the way it's laid out, but then add an isometric laid out, but then add an isometric laid out, but then add an isometric component to each set, which would be a component to each set, which would be a component to each set, which would be a great way to kind of manipulate that great way to kind of manipulate that great way to kind of manipulate that program a little bit. So, that's also an program a little bit. So, that's also an program a little bit. So, that's also an option. So, you can play with the option. So, you can play with the option. So, you can play with the suspension and the bands. Also, I think suspension and the bands. Also, I think suspension and the bands. Also, I think starter is a great and like Sal said, starter is a great and like Sal said, starter is a great and like Sal said, that's the the biggest key is going to that's the the biggest key is going to that's the the biggest key is going to be because at one point you'll be be because at one point you'll be be because at one point you'll be cleared uh of like, hey, you're good to cleared uh of like, hey, you're good to cleared uh of like, hey, you're good to go. You're going to be tempted to want go. You're going to be tempted to want go. You're going to be tempted to want to do too much so long as you stay in to do too much so long as you stay in to do too much so long as you stay in that range of motion. And I've had that range of motion. And I've had that range of motion. And I've had clients where that we we we don't squat clients where that we we we don't squat clients where that we we we don't squat past 90°, but we've gotten really strong past 90°, but we've gotten really strong past 90°, but we've gotten really strong within that 90° uh and and built within that 90° uh and and built within that 90° uh and and built >> squats are great for >> squats are great for >> squats are great for >> built a lot of great lower body muscle >> built a lot of great lower body muscle >> built a lot of great lower body muscle and feel great. And so, uh yeah, no, and feel great. And so, uh yeah, no, and feel great. And so, uh yeah, no, you're you're on the right track. you're you're on the right track. you're you're on the right track. >> Yeah. When you look at the when you look >> Yeah. When you look at the when you look >> Yeah. When you look at the when you look at hip replacement, artificial hip, at hip replacement, artificial hip, at hip replacement, artificial hip, artificial joints, they're limited in artificial joints, they're limited in artificial joints, they're limited in the range of motion. So, it's different the range of motion. So, it's different the range of motion. So, it's different than your what your natural hip would than your what your natural hip would than your what your natural hip would be. And so you probably have really good be. And so you probably have really good be. And so you probably have really good extensibility through your yoga, ballet, extensibility through your yoga, ballet, extensibility through your yoga, ballet, and so your tendency is going to be to and so your tendency is going to be to and so your tendency is going to be to challenge ranges of motion because challenge ranges of motion because challenge ranges of motion because that's what you know, but these joints that's what you know, but these joints that's what you know, but these joints are not made to do that. What happens are not made to do that. What happens are not made to do that. What happens when you challenge the range of motion when you challenge the range of motion when you challenge the range of motion is now it rests on this artificial joint is now it rests on this artificial joint is now it rests on this artificial joint and they're just not made to be able to and they're just not made to be able to and they're just not made to be able to do that. And so you regardless of how do that. And so you regardless of how do that. And so you regardless of how you feel, stay within with when it comes you feel, stay within with when it comes you feel, stay within with when it comes to the lower body, stay within the range to the lower body, stay within the range to the lower body, stay within the range of motion and you'll do plenty great of motion and you'll do plenty great of motion and you'll do plenty great with that. You'll gain good strength. with that. You'll gain good strength. with that. You'll gain good strength. you'll feel good. You're not going to you'll feel good. You're not going to you'll feel good. You're not going to feel limited. But if you start to try to feel limited. But if you start to try to feel limited. But if you start to try to push the range of motion like you push the range of motion like you push the range of motion like you normally would, that's when you run into normally would, that's when you run into normally would, that's when you run into >> It's all about recruiting. So, just >> It's all about recruiting. So, just >> It's all about recruiting. So, just think about that slow and just recruit think about that slow and just recruit think about that slow and just recruit as much, you know, muscle fiber uh and as much, you know, muscle fiber uh and as much, you know, muscle fiber uh and infuse that as much as possible. infuse that as much as possible. infuse that as much as possible. >> Do you have starter? >> Do you have starter? >> Do you have starter? >> I don't. No, >> I don't. No, >> I don't. No, >> I'll send that to you. Y >> I'll send that to you. Y >> I'll send that to you. Y >> Thank you so much. I should say also I'm >> Thank you so much. I should say also I'm >> Thank you so much. I should say also I'm I'm um I'm um I'm um >> I'm working with Dr. Brink through all >> I'm working with Dr. Brink through all >> I'm working with Dr. Brink through all of this. of this. of this. >> Wonderful. Awesome. Well, you're good. >> Wonderful. Awesome. Well, you're good. >> Wonderful. Awesome. Well, you're good. You're good. like you said, for that You're good. like you said, for that You're good. like you said, for that very reason, because very reason, because very reason, because one year isn't some magical number, I one year isn't some magical number, I one year isn't some magical number, I assume. So, it's not like at one year assume. So, it's not like at one year assume. So, it's not like at one year I'm all of a sudden now I'm able to I'm all of a sudden now I'm able to I'm all of a sudden now I'm able to squat to the floor. So, I he's helping squat to the floor. So, I he's helping squat to the floor. So, I he's helping me kind of get the PT part. I was me kind of get the PT part. I was me kind of get the PT part. I was discharged. I was discharged from PT and discharged. I was discharged from PT and discharged. I was discharged from PT and I I just wasn't ready. I I just wasn't ready. I I just wasn't ready. >> Um so, I I wanted to work with him. Uh >> Um so, I I wanted to work with him. Uh >> Um so, I I wanted to work with him. Uh and he's just great. I want everyone to and he's just great. I want everyone to and he's just great. I want everyone to work with him. He's the best. You're in work with him. He's the best. You're in work with him. He's the best. You're in the best. I'm glad you are. the best. I'm glad you are. the best. I'm glad you are. >> Well, now that you're working with him, >> Well, now that you're working with him, >> Well, now that you're working with him, I'm like, just do what he tells Thanks. I'm like, just do what he tells Thanks. I'm like, just do what he tells Thanks. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, >> go ahead and step out. >> go ahead and step out. >> go ahead and step out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, no, no, >> Yeah. No, no, no, >> Yeah. No, no, no, >> he's the best. >> he's the best. >> he's the best. >> Not at all. No, I want all all of you on >> Not at all. No, I want all all of you on >> Not at all. No, I want all all of you on my team. my team. my team. >> Well, you got all of us. I mean that and >> Well, you got all of us. I mean that and >> Well, you got all of us. I mean that and he knows all the programs, too. So, if he knows all the programs, too. So, if he knows all the programs, too. So, if you tell him that the guys gave me you tell him that the guys gave me you tell him that the guys gave me starter and uh you use that with what starter and uh you use that with what starter and uh you use that with what he's doing with you, uh you're you're in he's doing with you, uh you're you're in he's doing with you, uh you're you're in the best hands you can be. So, in fact, the best hands you can be. So, in fact, the best hands you can be. So, in fact, I'd love to hear back from you a while I'd love to hear back from you a while I'd love to hear back from you a while down the check back in with us a few down the check back in with us a few down the check back in with us a few months down the road. I'd love to hear months down the road. I'd love to hear months down the road. I'd love to hear where you're at. where you're at. where you're at. >> I will. Thank you. Um, for the >> I will. Thank you. Um, for the >> I will. Thank you. Um, for the isometrics, I seem to remember you guys isometrics, I seem to remember you guys isometrics, I seem to remember you guys talking about that they stop working talking about that they stop working talking about that they stop working after like two or three weeks. Is that after like two or three weeks. Is that after like two or three weeks. Is that >> is there a reason to to do the two weeks >> is there a reason to to do the two weeks >> is there a reason to to do the two weeks and then come back to it? and then come back to it? and then come back to it? >> No, no, no. So, what when we talk about >> No, no, no. So, what when we talk about >> No, no, no. So, what when we talk about that, what we're talking about are the that, what we're talking about are the that, what we're talking about are the strength gains are really rapid in two strength gains are really rapid in two strength gains are really rapid in two weeks, but you continue to get results weeks, but you continue to get results weeks, but you continue to get results uh from isometrics, especially when you uh from isometrics, especially when you uh from isometrics, especially when you put them in a program that includes put them in a program that includes put them in a program that includes traditional repetitions. traditional repetitions. traditional repetitions. >> So, it's not like they're a waste of >> So, it's not like they're a waste of >> So, it's not like they're a waste of time. They're great. But when we look at time. They're great. But when we look at time. They're great. But when we look at the data, challenging for people to do the data, challenging for people to do the data, challenging for people to do them for a long period of time. I think them for a long period of time. I think them for a long period of time. I think for the most part. for the most part. for the most part. >> Yeah. But isometrics are wonderful for >> Yeah. But isometrics are wonderful for >> Yeah. But isometrics are wonderful for you. Will always be wonderful for you. you. Will always be wonderful for you. you. Will always be wonderful for you. >> Yeah. You can progressively get more >> Yeah. You can progressively get more >> Yeah. You can progressively get more strength, you know, by continuing it. strength, you know, by continuing it. strength, you know, by continuing it. For sure. For sure. For sure. >> Okay. Terrific. Well, I'm everything >> Okay. Terrific. Well, I'm everything >> Okay. Terrific. Well, I'm everything right now is wonderful. So, I'll do them right now is wonderful. So, I'll do them right now is wonderful. So, I'll do them I'll do them for the next nine months. I'll do them for the next nine months. I'll do them for the next nine months. So, as long as Yeah, this is a very I'm So, as long as Yeah, this is a very I'm So, as long as Yeah, this is a very I'm trying to rebuild physically and trying to rebuild physically and trying to rebuild physically and mentally from this injury. So, this is mentally from this injury. So, this is mentally from this injury. So, this is >> very very It's Yeah. So, I'll use the >> very very It's Yeah. So, I'll use the >> very very It's Yeah. So, I'll use the isometrics as long as they're in great isometrics as long as they're in great isometrics as long as they're in great hands. hands. hands. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Great hands. Yeah, you got it. >> Great hands. Yeah, you got it. >> Great hands. Yeah, you got it. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> See you. Byebye. >> See you. Byebye. >> See you. Byebye. >> I wish he opened with them with Brink. >> I wish he opened with them with Brink. >> I wish he opened with them with Brink. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> He's better than we are. >> He's better than we are. >> He's better than we are. >> Yeah, he's a champion. Yeah, we love >> Yeah, he's a champion. Yeah, we love >> Yeah, he's a champion. Yeah, we love >> Yeah, he's the best when it comes to >> Yeah, he's the best when it comes to >> Yeah, he's the best when it comes to this kind of stuff, but you know, I've this kind of stuff, but you know, I've this kind of stuff, but you know, I've worked with people with hip replacements worked with people with hip replacements worked with people with hip replacements and you have to you look at the actual and you have to you look at the actual and you have to you look at the actual >> uh product. It it's it is limited. >> uh product. It it's it is limited. >> uh product. It it's it is limited. >> Yeah, that's the limitation. And so you >> Yeah, that's the limitation. And so you >> Yeah, that's the limitation. And so you can't push beyond what it's made for can't push beyond what it's made for can't push beyond what it's made for like you would with a normal joint. like you would with a normal joint. like you would with a normal joint. >> Uh otherwise the the the product itself >> Uh otherwise the the the product itself >> Uh otherwise the the the product itself starts to become damaged and you start starts to become damaged and you start starts to become damaged and you start to get issues. to get issues. to get issues. >> Our next caller is Sarah from >> Our next caller is Sarah from >> Our next caller is Sarah from California. California. California. >> Hi Sarah. >> Hi Sarah. >> Hi Sarah. >> How you doing Sarah? >> How you doing Sarah? >> How you doing Sarah? >> Hi. Hi guys. Oh my god, I'm so pumped to >> Hi. Hi guys. Oh my god, I'm so pumped to >> Hi. Hi guys. Oh my god, I'm so pumped to be talking to you. This is crazy. Um I'm be talking to you. This is crazy. Um I'm be talking to you. This is crazy. Um I'm so inspired by everything you've been so inspired by everything you've been so inspired by everything you've been doing. Like it's so clear how much you doing. Like it's so clear how much you doing. Like it's so clear how much you want to help people. So you guys have want to help people. So you guys have want to help people. So you guys have actually inspired me to go through the actually inspired me to go through the actually inspired me to go through the NASM certification and consider like a NASM certification and consider like a NASM certification and consider like a career change or a side gig in personal career change or a side gig in personal career change or a side gig in personal training down the line. So thank you so training down the line. So thank you so training down the line. So thank you so much for everything you do. much for everything you do. much for everything you do. >> Yeah, thank you. How can we help you? >> Yeah, thank you. How can we help you? >> Yeah, thank you. How can we help you? >> Okay, so um my question, I'll just read >> Okay, so um my question, I'll just read >> Okay, so um my question, I'll just read it here. So I've been working out since it here. So I've been working out since it here. So I've been working out since I was 14 when I got my first gym gym I was 14 when I got my first gym gym I was 14 when I got my first gym gym membership at a 24-hour fitness here in membership at a 24-hour fitness here in membership at a 24-hour fitness here in the Bay. Um I'm 43 now. I know that I'm the Bay. Um I'm 43 now. I know that I'm the Bay. Um I'm 43 now. I know that I'm a bit orthorexic and I definitely have a bit orthorexic and I definitely have a bit orthorexic and I definitely have an addiction to exercise, but I both an addiction to exercise, but I both an addiction to exercise, but I both look and feel great. I look better, I look and feel great. I look better, I look and feel great. I look better, I think, now. Um, and I'm more fit now think, now. Um, and I'm more fit now think, now. Um, and I'm more fit now than when I was in my 20s or 30s. Um, than when I was in my 20s or 30s. Um, than when I was in my 20s or 30s. Um, and I just never have like felt like I and I just never have like felt like I and I just never have like felt like I looked the way that I do before. And I looked the way that I do before. And I looked the way that I do before. And I also just really love training and also just really love training and also just really love training and movement outside, running, cycling, movement outside, running, cycling, movement outside, running, cycling, hiking, walking, you name it. Um, but I hiking, walking, you name it. Um, but I hiking, walking, you name it. Um, but I definitely overdo it. Um, so my question definitely overdo it. Um, so my question definitely overdo it. Um, so my question is, is this going to for sure bite me in is, is this going to for sure bite me in is, is this going to for sure bite me in the ass? at some point or do you guys the ass? at some point or do you guys the ass? at some point or do you guys think that I continue as is as long as think that I continue as is as long as think that I continue as is as long as I'm feeling great? And I guess I should I'm feeling great? And I guess I should I'm feeling great? And I guess I should also mention that um I'm I've been using also mention that um I'm I've been using also mention that um I'm I've been using a variety of peptides for several years a variety of peptides for several years a variety of peptides for several years um which I know help me train better and um which I know help me train better and um which I know help me train better and recover better and faster. So I guess my recover better and faster. So I guess my recover better and faster. So I guess my hope is that the addition of these tools hope is that the addition of these tools hope is that the addition of these tools to my toolbox means I can do more and to my toolbox means I can do more and to my toolbox means I can do more and push a bit harder without the same push a bit harder without the same push a bit harder without the same repercussions. repercussions. repercussions. But um I'm curious what you guys think But um I'm curious what you guys think But um I'm curious what you guys think and I would love your thoughts. Let's and I would love your thoughts. Let's and I would love your thoughts. Let's let's peer a little into what the let's peer a little into what the let's peer a little into what the training in uh looks like. Like uh how training in uh looks like. Like uh how training in uh looks like. Like uh how how much training volume are you how much training volume are you how much training volume are you tracking steps? Like what's it look like tracking steps? Like what's it look like tracking steps? Like what's it look like for a week? for a week? for a week? >> Yeah, I mean it's like basically all of >> Yeah, I mean it's like basically all of >> Yeah, I mean it's like basically all of my free time I'm training or or you know my free time I'm training or or you know my free time I'm training or or you know a lot of it is outdoors, but five days a a lot of it is outdoors, but five days a a lot of it is outdoors, but five days a week I'm doing like an hour to an hour week I'm doing like an hour to an hour week I'm doing like an hour to an hour and a half of strength training is and a half of strength training is and a half of strength training is pretty intense. Um, and then like pretty intense. Um, and then like pretty intense. Um, and then like anywhere from three to five hours of anywhere from three to five hours of anywhere from three to five hours of just cycling or running or hiking. Like just cycling or running or hiking. Like just cycling or running or hiking. Like >> it's a lot. It's I mean when I say it >> it's a lot. It's I mean when I say it >> it's a lot. It's I mean when I say it out loud it actually sounds totally out loud it actually sounds totally out loud it actually sounds totally ridiculous, but like I love it too, you ridiculous, but like I love it too, you ridiculous, but like I love it too, you know? I just love being outdoors. And I know? I just love being outdoors. And I know? I just love being outdoors. And I just I think mentally it helps my mental just I think mentally it helps my mental just I think mentally it helps my mental health a lot too. And I just feel like I health a lot too. And I just feel like I health a lot too. And I just feel like I have a lot of my my best thoughts and have a lot of my my best thoughts and have a lot of my my best thoughts and ideas while I'm outside. So there's ideas while I'm outside. So there's ideas while I'm outside. So there's that. But there's also just a compulsion that. But there's also just a compulsion that. But there's also just a compulsion too, right? I mean, I love too, right? I mean, I love too, right? I mean, I love >> I I love uh walking and hiking outside. >> I I love uh walking and hiking outside. >> I I love uh walking and hiking outside. That's awesome. Uh cycling and running That's awesome. Uh cycling and running That's awesome. Uh cycling and running can be okay. Can get intense though can be okay. Can get intense though can be okay. Can get intense though really quickly. So, but hiking and really quickly. So, but hiking and really quickly. So, but hiking and walking outside for mental clarity being walking outside for mental clarity being walking outside for mental clarity being outside. I'm all pro that outside. I'm all pro that outside. I'm all pro that >> doing that. Uh >> doing that. Uh >> doing that. Uh >> strength training 5 days a week could be >> strength training 5 days a week could be >> strength training 5 days a week could be okay. Uh but if you say it's really okay. Uh but if you say it's really okay. Uh but if you say it's really intense in an hour and a half, that intense in an hour and a half, that intense in an hour and a half, that that's that's a lot. Yeah, that's that's that's a lot. Yeah, that's that's that's a lot. Yeah, that's overkill. Way overdoing it. I'm so overkill. Way overdoing it. I'm so overkill. Way overdoing it. I'm so by the way you answer this question will by the way you answer this question will by the way you answer this question will help me determine if I can help uh with help me determine if I can help uh with help me determine if I can help uh with this. So why do you think there's some this. So why do you think there's some this. So why do you think there's some orthorexia or compulsion? orthorexia or compulsion? orthorexia or compulsion? >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh because I can't remember the last day I because I can't remember the last day I because I can't remember the last day I didn't do like at least a few hours of didn't do like at least a few hours of didn't do like at least a few hours of activity activity activity >> and if I don't get that in um >> and if I don't get that in um >> and if I don't get that in um >> like I don't feel normal. >> like I don't feel normal. >> like I don't feel normal. >> Okay. How do and how do how do you feel >> Okay. How do and how do how do you feel >> Okay. How do and how do how do you feel about that? about that? about that? Um, I mean, right now I'm at a point in Um, I mean, right now I'm at a point in Um, I mean, right now I'm at a point in my life where it it's okay. Like, I'm my life where it it's okay. Like, I'm my life where it it's okay. Like, I'm single right now, so I don't have a single right now, so I don't have a single right now, so I don't have a partner I need to be giving time to. I partner I need to be giving time to. I partner I need to be giving time to. I don't have kids. Um, but like what if don't have kids. Um, but like what if don't have kids. Um, but like what if that, you know, what if that happens that, you know, what if that happens that, you know, what if that happens soon or I switch jobs and I just soon or I switch jobs and I just soon or I switch jobs and I just literally can't do it? I think I'm going literally can't do it? I think I'm going literally can't do it? I think I'm going to just feel awful and and to just feel awful and and to just feel awful and and >> like that's that's not healthy, you >> like that's that's not healthy, you >> like that's that's not healthy, you know, to like not feel good or be know, to like not feel good or be know, to like not feel good or be freaked out on a day where I, you know, freaked out on a day where I, you know, freaked out on a day where I, you know, don't work out a lot. Like that's just don't work out a lot. Like that's just don't work out a lot. Like that's just >> that's not healthy. Like that's >> that's not healthy. Like that's >> that's not healthy. Like that's dependence. dependence. dependence. >> Yeah. So you feel like it's controlling >> Yeah. So you feel like it's controlling >> Yeah. So you feel like it's controlling you? you? you? >> Yeah, a little bit. Okay. >> Yeah, a little bit. Okay. >> Yeah, a little bit. Okay. >> And I think for a long time I really >> And I think for a long time I really >> And I think for a long time I really convinced myself, no, it's just that I convinced myself, no, it's just that I convinced myself, no, it's just that I love it. But I'm like, especially love it. But I'm like, especially love it. But I'm like, especially actually since I've been listening to actually since I've been listening to actually since I've been listening to you guys, I've kind of been realizing, you guys, I've kind of been realizing, you guys, I've kind of been realizing, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> this isn't just that I love it. Yeah, >> this isn't just that I love it. Yeah, >> this isn't just that I love it. Yeah, >> there's a little bit more to it. >> there's a little bit more to it. >> there's a little bit more to it. >> Good for you. A lot of people do. That's >> Good for you. A lot of people do. That's >> Good for you. A lot of people do. That's what people continue to say. what people continue to say. what people continue to say. >> And look, I I just, you know, um forgive >> And look, I I just, you know, um forgive >> And look, I I just, you know, um forgive me for my brevity, but um alcoholics me for my brevity, but um alcoholics me for my brevity, but um alcoholics love their alcohol. love their alcohol. love their alcohol. >> Uh and so they they say they like it, >> Uh and so they they say they like it, >> Uh and so they they say they like it, they enjoy it. And uh I think you're they enjoy it. And uh I think you're they enjoy it. And uh I think you're getting a little bit of awareness that getting a little bit of awareness that getting a little bit of awareness that this thing is controlling you, but it this thing is controlling you, but it this thing is controlling you, but it doesn't sound like you're at the place doesn't sound like you're at the place doesn't sound like you're at the place where you could change it yet because where you could change it yet because where you could change it yet because you're also saying, "I love it. I like you're also saying, "I love it. I like you're also saying, "I love it. I like it. it. it. >> It's like my favorite thing. >> It's like my favorite thing. >> It's like my favorite thing. >> I look great. I feel great. >> I look great. I feel great. >> I look great. I feel great. >> I feel great." But then you're like, >> I feel great." But then you're like, >> I feel great." But then you're like, "It's controlling me. This might be an "It's controlling me. This might be an "It's controlling me. This might be an issue." issue." issue." >> So I mean, I could tell you from the >> So I mean, I could tell you from the >> So I mean, I could tell you from the outside it definitely is an issue and outside it definitely is an issue and outside it definitely is an issue and you're doing way too much. you're doing way too much. you're doing way too much. >> Uh the question is, can you change it? >> Uh the question is, can you change it? >> Uh the question is, can you change it? Do do you want to change it bad enough? Do do you want to change it bad enough? Do do you want to change it bad enough? >> Yeah. That's right. >> Yeah. That's right. >> Yeah. That's right. >> Because eventually how you started this >> Because eventually how you started this >> Because eventually how you started this question is right eventually you'll be question is right eventually you'll be question is right eventually you'll be forced to. forced to. forced to. >> It's going to bite you. >> It's going to bite you. >> It's going to bite you. >> Eventually hormonal bone stuff uh you >> Eventually hormonal bone stuff uh you >> Eventually hormonal bone stuff uh you you'll that that starts you'll that that starts you'll that that starts >> life is going to happen. >> life is going to happen. >> life is going to happen. >> Yeah. Yeah. And so the answer is yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. And so the answer is yes. >> Yeah. Yeah. And so the answer is yes. Eventually your body will force you to. Eventually your body will force you to. Eventually your body will force you to. It's a question of do you have the It's a question of do you have the It's a question of do you have the motivation to change it right now? motivation to change it right now? motivation to change it right now? Especially when you like the way you Especially when you like the way you Especially when you like the way you look, like the way you feel, and you and look, like the way you feel, and you and look, like the way you feel, and you and you say you enjoy all those things. That you say you enjoy all those things. That you say you enjoy all those things. That to Sal's point, that's really tough to to Sal's point, that's really tough to to Sal's point, that's really tough to >> It's It really sucks to be forced to >> It's It really sucks to be forced to >> It's It really sucks to be forced to change it when something happens. That change it when something happens. That change it when something happens. That sucks. sucks. sucks. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To change it ahead of time is hard, but >> To change it ahead of time is hard, but >> To change it ahead of time is hard, but is way better. is way better. is way better. >> Yeah. It's better. >> Yeah. It's better. >> Yeah. It's better. >> Yeah. Cuz what'll happen at some point >> Yeah. Cuz what'll happen at some point >> Yeah. Cuz what'll happen at some point is something's going to happen and you is something's going to happen and you is something's going to happen and you can't do all that stuff can't do all that stuff can't do all that stuff >> or something's going to happen >> or something's going to happen >> or something's going to happen physically or mentally and then you're physically or mentally and then you're physically or mentally and then you're going to be like, "Oh my god, going to be like, "Oh my god, going to be like, "Oh my god, >> I have to re yeah come out of it." But >> I have to re yeah come out of it." But >> I have to re yeah come out of it." But it could be a number of different it could be a number of different it could be a number of different things, but at some point this thing things, but at some point this thing things, but at some point this thing that's controlling you that you're kind that's controlling you that you're kind that's controlling you that you're kind of like, uhoh, I think it's controlling of like, uhoh, I think it's controlling of like, uhoh, I think it's controlling me. At some point it's you're going to me. At some point it's you're going to me. At some point it's you're going to be forced to have to make a decision. be forced to have to make a decision. be forced to have to make a decision. And then that's the wor that's the And then that's the wor that's the And then that's the wor that's the hardest. That's hard when it's like in hardest. That's hard when it's like in hardest. That's hard when it's like in your face. where you're at now is your face. where you're at now is your face. where you're at now is actually an easier place to to make actually an easier place to to make actually an easier place to to make those changes. So, it really is up to those changes. So, it really is up to those changes. So, it really is up to how and you really have to talk about it how and you really have to talk about it how and you really have to talk about it in a way to yourself that's honest in a way to yourself that's honest in a way to yourself that's honest because what I hear and I know I hear because what I hear and I know I hear because what I hear and I know I hear this cuz I talk this way. Okay. Cuz I this cuz I talk this way. Okay. Cuz I this cuz I talk this way. Okay. Cuz I know what you I know what you feel like. know what you I know what you feel like. know what you I know what you feel like. Okay. You are me. Okay. In this in this Okay. You are me. Okay. In this in this Okay. You are me. Okay. In this in this regard is regard is regard is >> I know I've heard a lot of Yeah. Yeah. >> I know I've heard a lot of Yeah. Yeah. >> I know I've heard a lot of Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. as it's coming out of your mouth, Yeah. as it's coming out of your mouth, Yeah. as it's coming out of your mouth, you're trying to uh give yourself you're trying to uh give yourself you're trying to uh give yourself escape. Like, oh, it's this thing that's escape. Like, oh, it's this thing that's escape. Like, oh, it's this thing that's controlling, but I love it. Oh, it might controlling, but I love it. Oh, it might controlling, but I love it. Oh, it might not be so good for me, but I can do it. not be so good for me, but I can do it. not be so good for me, but I can do it. Oo, I but I look good and I feel good. Oo, I but I look good and I feel good. Oo, I but I look good and I feel good. And so, it's like you're afraid to say And so, it's like you're afraid to say And so, it's like you're afraid to say to yourself, this is a problem and it to yourself, this is a problem and it to yourself, this is a problem and it needs to get fixed. Because if you say needs to get fixed. Because if you say needs to get fixed. Because if you say that, then you have to change it. So, that, then you have to change it. So, that, then you have to change it. So, you're like, maybe not. So, that's kind you're like, maybe not. So, that's kind you're like, maybe not. So, that's kind of where you're at uh with it right now. of where you're at uh with it right now. of where you're at uh with it right now. >> Well, are you at a place where you'd be >> Well, are you at a place where you'd be >> Well, are you at a place where you'd be open to even outsourcing it? In other open to even outsourcing it? In other open to even outsourcing it? In other words, hiring a coach to tell you what words, hiring a coach to tell you what words, hiring a coach to tell you what you need to do and then following it. you need to do and then following it. you need to do and then following it. >> Just doing what they tell you. >> Just doing what they tell you. >> Just doing what they tell you. >> Yeah. I mean, here's another thing. >> Yeah. I mean, here's another thing. >> Yeah. I mean, here's another thing. Like, so I haven't always been as fit Like, so I haven't always been as fit Like, so I haven't always been as fit and looked as good. And so, being at a and looked as good. And so, being at a and looked as good. And so, being at a point where I finally feel like I'm like point where I finally feel like I'm like point where I finally feel like I'm like I love my body now. And this was not I love my body now. And this was not I love my body now. And this was not always the case, you know, and so I've always the case, you know, and so I've always the case, you know, and so I've been through different iterations of my been through different iterations of my been through different iterations of my body. And so, you know, would I be body. And so, you know, would I be body. And so, you know, would I be willing to totally scale back on willing to totally scale back on willing to totally scale back on exercise? Yes. if I was able to like exercise? Yes. if I was able to like exercise? Yes. if I was able to like mostly keep the body that I now have. mostly keep the body that I now have. mostly keep the body that I now have. >> You absolutely can. You absolutely can. >> You absolutely can. You absolutely can. >> You absolutely can. You absolutely can. You absolutely can. You absolutely can. You absolutely can. >> You'll get youception. >> You'll get youception. >> You'll get youception. >> That would actually be So, if I was >> That would actually be So, if I was >> That would actually be So, if I was coaching, that's the easiest part. coaching, that's the easiest part. coaching, that's the easiest part. You've built the physique you like and You've built the physique you like and You've built the physique you like and you're like, Adam, I like the way I you're like, Adam, I like the way I you're like, Adam, I like the way I look. It's like, cool. Let me show you a look. It's like, cool. Let me show you a look. It's like, cool. Let me show you a way easier way to maintain that look, way easier way to maintain that look, way easier way to maintain that look, right? right? right? >> If anything, you'll improve. >> If anything, you'll improve. >> If anything, you'll improve. >> It will. You It It's >> It will. You It It's >> It will. You It It's 5 days, an hour and a half of training. 5 days, an hour and a half of training. 5 days, an hour and a half of training. >> Let me put it to you this way. you look >> Let me put it to you this way. you look >> Let me put it to you this way. you look as as fit as you do in spite of all the as as fit as you do in spite of all the as as fit as you do in spite of all the the wrong stuff that you're doing. the wrong stuff that you're doing. the wrong stuff that you're doing. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Right. Right. Right. >> And and you're putting a lot of peptide >> And and you're putting a lot of peptide >> And and you're putting a lot of peptide bandages and stuff like that on it to bandages and stuff like that on it to bandages and stuff like that on it to keep the ball rolling. keep the ball rolling. keep the ball rolling. >> Uh you'll actually look better. >> Uh you'll actually look better. >> Uh you'll actually look better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh so if that's what you're afraid of. >> Uh so if that's what you're afraid of. >> Uh so if that's what you're afraid of. Yeah. It's that it's don't worry. Yeah. It's that it's don't worry. Yeah. It's that it's don't worry. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, you >> Yeah. Yeah. No, you >> Yeah. Yeah. No, you >> that is what I'm afraid of for sure. >> that is what I'm afraid of for sure. >> that is what I'm afraid of for sure. Right. because like I've been 25 lbs Right. because like I've been 25 lbs Right. because like I've been 25 lbs heavier and like didn't get looks and or heavier and like didn't get looks and or heavier and like didn't get looks and or compliments and now I'm like I'm at the compliments and now I'm like I'm at the compliments and now I'm like I'm at the gym and I'm like that crazy chick who's gym and I'm like that crazy chick who's gym and I'm like that crazy chick who's like busting her ass but I get like busting her ass but I get like busting her ass but I get complimented, you know? I get women complimented, you know? I get women complimented, you know? I get women complimenting me on my arms which is complimenting me on my arms which is complimenting me on my arms which is awesome and I used to hate my arms. So awesome and I used to hate my arms. So awesome and I used to hate my arms. So like if I can keep all that and do way like if I can keep all that and do way like if I can keep all that and do way less. Yeah, I'm definitely like at a less. Yeah, I'm definitely like at a less. Yeah, I'm definitely like at a >> Sarah. Sarah, you're totally you're >> Sarah. Sarah, you're totally you're >> Sarah. Sarah, you're totally you're totally sarah. Sarah, listen to me. No, totally sarah. Sarah, listen to me. No, totally sarah. Sarah, listen to me. No, I don't do it for I don't do it for I I don't do it for I don't do it for I I don't do it for I don't do it for I get no callina get no callina get no callina Sarah. Sarah. Sarah. >> That's why he wears that wife beater in >> That's why he wears that wife beater in >> That's why he wears that wife beater in the the the >> Sarah. I thought wife it was like a >> Sarah. I thought wife it was like a >> Sarah. I thought wife it was like a wife. You changed the name of it wife. You changed the name of it wife. You changed the name of it recently. recently. recently. >> Yeah. Wife pleaser. The wife which >> Yeah. Wife pleaser. The wife which >> Yeah. Wife pleaser. The wife which sounds just as bad somehow. sounds just as bad somehow. sounds just as bad somehow. >> Sarah, you're you're you're you're >> Sarah, you're you're you're you're >> Sarah, you're you're you're you're already a valuable person. already a valuable person. already a valuable person. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're already worthwhile. >> You're already worthwhile. >> You're already worthwhile. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All that outside whatever is it's >> All that outside whatever is it's >> All that outside whatever is it's meaningless. meaningless. meaningless. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're you're already you're already >> You're you're already you're already >> You're you're already you're already worthwhile. you're already great and you worthwhile. you're already great and you worthwhile. you're already great and you don't need all that. don't need all that. don't need all that. >> You really don't. And in fact, it's it's >> You really don't. And in fact, it's it's >> You really don't. And in fact, it's it's keeping you trapped. keeping you trapped. keeping you trapped. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> But if if you want Look, here's the >> But if if you want Look, here's the >> But if if you want Look, here's the deal, okay? Because we'll answer your deal, okay? Because we'll answer your deal, okay? Because we'll answer your question. Are you going to like suddenly question. Are you going to like suddenly question. Are you going to like suddenly your body's going to change in a your body's going to change in a your body's going to change in a negative? No, it's not going to happen. negative? No, it's not going to happen. negative? No, it's not going to happen. >> Uh you you'll you'll get as great or >> Uh you you'll you'll get as great or >> Uh you you'll you'll get as great or better results with way less work. better results with way less work. better results with way less work. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um but I also don't want you to focus on >> Um but I also don't want you to focus on >> Um but I also don't want you to focus on that because that's also going to steer that because that's also going to steer that because that's also going to steer you in the wrong direction. you in the wrong direction. you in the wrong direction. So, uh, I mean, a coach would really be So, uh, I mean, a coach would really be So, uh, I mean, a coach would really be helpful, but you you've got to be in a helpful, but you you've got to be in a helpful, but you you've got to be in a place to where you're okay with that, place to where you're okay with that, place to where you're okay with that, where you where you're going to let go where you where you're going to let go where you where you're going to let go and be like, "Okay, this is really a and be like, "Okay, this is really a and be like, "Okay, this is really a problem I want to address." If you're problem I want to address." If you're problem I want to address." If you're not there yet, then it wouldn't help not there yet, then it wouldn't help not there yet, then it wouldn't help you. you. you. >> Yeah, I think I'm in that that >> Yeah, I think I'm in that that >> Yeah, I think I'm in that that contemplation stage of change still, contemplation stage of change still, contemplation stage of change still, >> but I'm um I feel like I'm getting >> but I'm um I feel like I'm getting >> but I'm um I feel like I'm getting closer to closer to closer to >> to having a mindset of of readiness. >> to having a mindset of of readiness. >> to having a mindset of of readiness. >> You know what you could do? Try this. >> You know what you could do? Try this. >> You know what you could do? Try this. This is what I'm doing right now. So, This is what I'm doing right now. So, This is what I'm doing right now. So, cuz I've been on and off with this cuz I've been on and off with this cuz I've been on and off with this forever. Sometimes better, sometimes forever. Sometimes better, sometimes forever. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. I So, I started doing where every worse. I So, I started doing where every worse. I So, I started doing where every other week, uh, I don't do any So, this other week, uh, I don't do any So, this other week, uh, I don't do any So, this is for me. This wouldn't look like it is for me. This wouldn't look like it is for me. This wouldn't look like it for you, but for me, every other week I for you, but for me, every other week I for you, but for me, every other week I do zero to no almost do zero to no almost do zero to no almost no strength training and I just do no strength training and I just do no strength training and I just do cardio because that's the thing for me cardio because that's the thing for me cardio because that's the thing for me is he should say he doesn't do cardio. is he should say he doesn't do cardio. is he should say he doesn't do cardio. >> I just do walking. >> I just do walking. >> I just do walking. >> Okay. So, maybe it looks like this for >> Okay. So, maybe it looks like this for >> Okay. So, maybe it looks like this for you. instead of what you do every single you. instead of what you do every single you. instead of what you do every single day, maybe it's like, okay, on Wednesday day, maybe it's like, okay, on Wednesday day, maybe it's like, okay, on Wednesday and Friday, I'm cutting it way down and and Friday, I'm cutting it way down and and Friday, I'm cutting it way down and then wait and then see what happens. And then wait and then see what happens. And then wait and then see what happens. And then slowly step ladder yourself towards then slowly step ladder yourself towards then slowly step ladder yourself towards uh doing less. Maybe it's one day. Maybe uh doing less. Maybe it's one day. Maybe uh doing less. Maybe it's one day. Maybe it could be like, "All right, Fridays it could be like, "All right, Fridays it could be like, "All right, Fridays instead of doing an hour and a half of instead of doing an hour and a half of instead of doing an hour and a half of strength training and all this cardio, strength training and all this cardio, strength training and all this cardio, maybe it's like I'm going to do nothing maybe it's like I'm going to do nothing maybe it's like I'm going to do nothing or I'm going to just go for a hike or or I'm going to just go for a hike or or I'm going to just go for a hike or something like that and keep it light something like that and keep it light something like that and keep it light because you could also turn that into, because you could also turn that into, because you could also turn that into, you know, crazy." And just step ladder you know, crazy." And just step ladder you know, crazy." And just step ladder yourself. For me, it's every other week yourself. For me, it's every other week yourself. For me, it's every other week because the that's that seems to be what because the that's that seems to be what because the that's that seems to be what I I can do right now. I I can do right now. I I can do right now. H H H >> how is your um thought process and your >> how is your um thought process and your >> how is your um thought process and your mental health as you go through this? mental health as you go through this? mental health as you go through this? >> He sucks at it. So, I don't know why >> He sucks at it. So, I don't know why >> He sucks at it. So, I don't know why he's talking about you needs a coach. he's talking about you needs a coach. he's talking about you needs a coach. You need a coach. That's that's all You need a coach. That's that's all You need a coach. That's that's all right. right. right. >> I just started it. And so, this is week >> I just started it. And so, this is week >> I just started it. And so, this is week uh two. So, I'm just I just got into it. uh two. So, I'm just I just got into it. uh two. So, I'm just I just got into it. >> But what helped me was on the week I'm >> But what helped me was on the week I'm >> But what helped me was on the week I'm not strength training. I'm uh listening not strength training. I'm uh listening not strength training. I'm uh listening to books that I'm really interested in. to books that I'm really interested in. to books that I'm really interested in. So, I look forward to that. So, I walk So, I look forward to that. So, I walk So, I look forward to that. So, I walk on the treadmill and I listen to a book on the treadmill and I listen to a book on the treadmill and I listen to a book because just doing nothing is too big of because just doing nothing is too big of because just doing nothing is too big of a bite for me. So I'm like, okay, so a bite for me. So I'm like, okay, so a bite for me. So I'm like, okay, so every other week I'm just So maybe every other week I'm just So maybe every other week I'm just So maybe there's something else that you're there's something else that you're there's something else that you're really interested in that you really really interested in that you really really interested in that you really like to do, whether it's a book or you like to do, whether it's a book or you like to do, whether it's a book or you go, I you know, it might it's just go, I you know, it might it's just go, I you know, it might it's just something that's not exercise. Uh and something that's not exercise. Uh and something that's not exercise. Uh and then because not doing something is then because not doing something is then because not doing something is hard, but doing something else in hard, but doing something else in hard, but doing something else in replace of it is easier. replace of it is easier. replace of it is easier. >> So maybe it's maybe it's yin yoga. Yin >> So maybe it's maybe it's yin yoga. Yin >> So maybe it's maybe it's yin yoga. Yin yoga would be great for someone. The yoga would be great for someone. The yoga would be great for someone. The hardest the hardest part, Sarah, if I hardest the hardest part, Sarah, if I hardest the hardest part, Sarah, if I was coaching you, the hardest part is was coaching you, the hardest part is was coaching you, the hardest part is I'm I'm going to tell you that I I'm I'm going to tell you that I I'm I'm going to tell you that I absolutely can keep the body or even absolutely can keep the body or even absolutely can keep the body or even better if you wanted, but I also better if you wanted, but I also better if you wanted, but I also simultaneously need you to let go of simultaneously need you to let go of simultaneously need you to let go of that at the same time. That's the hard that at the same time. That's the hard that at the same time. That's the hard part. So, it's like I can I can I could part. So, it's like I can I can I could part. So, it's like I can I can I could guarantee you as as the coach, I could guarantee you as as the coach, I could guarantee you as as the coach, I could say, "Hey, don't worry. I'll I'll keep say, "Hey, don't worry. I'll I'll keep say, "Hey, don't worry. I'll I'll keep this body the way it is or maybe even this body the way it is or maybe even this body the way it is or maybe even improve it, but I also need you to just improve it, but I also need you to just improve it, but I also need you to just trust me and let it go while we do trust me and let it go while we do trust me and let it go while we do this." And so that part, that letting go this." And so that part, that letting go this." And so that part, that letting go process, that's the hard part. And process, that's the hard part. And process, that's the hard part. And that's the part that you have to to that's the part that you have to to that's the part that you have to to separate from. That's what this guy is separate from. That's what this guy is separate from. That's what this guy is still struggling with is completely still struggling with is completely still struggling with is completely letting go of that and going a total letting go of that and going a total letting go of that and going a total different direction. He's easing himself different direction. He's easing himself different direction. He's easing himself in with the walking stuff. But so what in with the walking stuff. But so what in with the walking stuff. But so what my journey looked like years ago is like my journey looked like years ago is like my journey looked like years ago is like part of like getting into a whole part of like getting into a whole part of like getting into a whole different modality. Like let go of the different modality. Like let go of the different modality. Like let go of the jacked look. I look like I can go get jacked look. I look like I can go get jacked look. I look like I can go get that anytime I want. And you can too. that anytime I want. And you can too. that anytime I want. And you can too. You've look at you've already proven You've look at you've already proven You've look at you've already proven that. You've proven you have the ability that. You've proven you have the ability that. You've proven you have the ability to go get that. So now try and train to go get that. So now try and train to go get that. So now try and train yourself. Can I let it go? It doesn't yourself. Can I let it go? It doesn't yourself. Can I let it go? It doesn't mean be unhealthy and I'm saying get mean be unhealthy and I'm saying get mean be unhealthy and I'm saying get fat. I'm just saying let that focus go fat. I'm just saying let that focus go fat. I'm just saying let that focus go and focus something on something else and focus something on something else and focus something on something else for a while and know that you got that for a while and know that you got that for a while and know that you got that in your back pocket if you ever need to. in your back pocket if you ever need to. in your back pocket if you ever need to. That's the that's the growth part right That's the that's the growth part right That's the that's the growth part right here on your journey that you need to here on your journey that you need to here on your journey that you need to get through. And that on the other side get through. And that on the other side get through. And that on the other side of that is a healthier version of you, a of that is a healthier version of you, a of that is a healthier version of you, a fitter version of you and way less fitter version of you and way less fitter version of you and way less control and effort towards it. are control and effort towards it. are control and effort towards it. are Sarah, how's do you how's your social Sarah, how's do you how's your social Sarah, how's do you how's your social life with friendships and stuff or does life with friendships and stuff or does life with friendships and stuff or does all revolve around the gym? all revolve around the gym? all revolve around the gym? >> I mean, right now, yeah, it's there's >> I mean, right now, yeah, it's there's >> I mean, right now, yeah, it's there's not much. Um, but I just got back to the not much. Um, but I just got back to the not much. Um, but I just got back to the Bay after living abroad for a couple of Bay after living abroad for a couple of Bay after living abroad for a couple of years and also like I went to Burning years and also like I went to Burning years and also like I went to Burning Man for 10 years and so my previous life Man for 10 years and so my previous life Man for 10 years and so my previous life was like a bit of a partyier and all my was like a bit of a partyier and all my was like a bit of a partyier and all my friends love to party and I want nothing friends love to party and I want nothing friends love to party and I want nothing to do with that. So, I think I've just to do with that. So, I think I've just to do with that. So, I think I've just kind of shifted that all all my energy kind of shifted that all all my energy kind of shifted that all all my energy into like health and fitness, but now into like health and fitness, but now into like health and fitness, but now I've overdone it, I've overdone it, I've overdone it, >> you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, I mean that that that's that's >> Well, I mean that that that's that's >> Well, I mean that that that's that's that's another that's another thing that that's another that's another thing that that's another that's another thing that could help uh is seek out kind of social could help uh is seek out kind of social could help uh is seek out kind of social >> community. >> community. >> community. >> Yeah. Social community for me. It's my >> Yeah. Social community for me. It's my >> Yeah. Social community for me. It's my church. That's actually helped me quite church. That's actually helped me quite church. That's actually helped me quite a bit. Um and that's the other thing, a bit. Um and that's the other thing, a bit. Um and that's the other thing, too, because otherwise you have all this too, because otherwise you have all this too, because otherwise you have all this time on your hands time on your hands time on your hands >> and you're like, "Yeah, I'm gonna go to >> and you're like, "Yeah, I'm gonna go to >> and you're like, "Yeah, I'm gonna go to the gym because I like doing that." the gym because I like doing that." the gym because I like doing that." >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Yeah. that >> Yeah. that >> Yeah. that >> I'd love to see you get I love to see >> I'd love to see you get I love to see >> I'd love to see you get I love to see you get coached. I know you say you're you get coached. I know you say you're you get coached. I know you say you're contemplating right now, but a good contemplating right now, but a good contemplating right now, but a good coach coach coach >> for a good season. >> for a good season. >> for a good season. >> I'm getting closer. >> I'm getting closer. >> I'm getting closer. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. >> Well, if you ever if it's if you're >> Well, if you ever if it's if you're >> Well, if you ever if it's if you're like, "Okay, I'm ready to do that." You like, "Okay, I'm ready to do that." You like, "Okay, I'm ready to do that." You let us know. We got some great coaches let us know. We got some great coaches let us know. We got some great coaches here. You're not far from us either, by here. You're not far from us either, by here. You're not far from us either, by the way. So, you can you could even do the way. So, you can you could even do the way. So, you can you could even do uh personal training here on occasion. uh personal training here on occasion. uh personal training here on occasion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Like once a week or once every other >> Like once a week or once every other >> Like once a week or once every other week and actually come into the studio week and actually come into the studio week and actually come into the studio and work with one of our trainers. and work with one of our trainers. and work with one of our trainers. >> Oh, that'd be awesome. I would love >> Oh, that'd be awesome. I would love >> Oh, that'd be awesome. I would love that. that. that. >> Would you? You want somebody to call >> Would you? You want somebody to call >> Would you? You want somebody to call you? you? you? >> Yeah. You know, why not? Yes. >> Yeah. You know, why not? Yes. >> Yeah. You know, why not? Yes. >> All right, let's do that. And we'll see >> All right, let's do that. And we'll see >> All right, let's do that. And we'll see you cuz we're here. We're here. you cuz we're here. We're here. you cuz we're here. We're here. >> Get you down here, Sarah. >> Get you down here, Sarah. >> Get you down here, Sarah. >> Awesome. All right, guys. Well, thank >> Awesome. All right, guys. Well, thank >> Awesome. All right, guys. Well, thank you so much for your time and for you so much for your time and for you so much for your time and for everything you do. I appreciate it. everything you do. I appreciate it. everything you do. I appreciate it. >> You got it. Thanks. >> You got it. Thanks. >> You got it. Thanks. >> Okay, bye. Cheers. >> Okay, bye. Cheers. >> Okay, bye. Cheers. >> She also works for the enhanced games. >> She also works for the enhanced games. >> She also works for the enhanced games. Did you see that? Did you see that? Did you see that? >> I did see that. >> I did see that. >> I did see that. >> She does. She sees talent for the >> She does. She sees talent for the >> She does. She sees talent for the >> Shut up for the marketing. >> Shut up for the marketing. >> Shut up for the marketing. >> Oh, that's cool. She That's good. I hope >> Oh, that's cool. She That's good. I hope >> Oh, that's cool. She That's good. I hope she comes down here then. she comes down here then. she comes down here then. >> Which also makes it more difficult cuz >> Which also makes it more difficult cuz >> Which also makes it more difficult cuz you're working enhancement. you're working enhancement. you're working enhancement. >> It's kind of a skewed environment. >> It's kind of a skewed environment. >> It's kind of a skewed environment. >> I mean, she's >> I mean, she's >> I mean, she's >> I know. Listen, if I if I didn't have >> I know. Listen, if I if I didn't have >> I know. Listen, if I if I didn't have kids and a wife and all that stuff, I I kids and a wife and all that stuff, I I kids and a wife and all that stuff, I I mean that I I know exactly I that's what mean that I I know exactly I that's what mean that I I know exactly I that's what I would do all the time I would do all the time I would do all the time >> cuz you got to find other things that uh >> cuz you got to find other things that uh >> cuz you got to find other things that uh you can replace it with. What are you can replace it with. What are you can replace it with. What are >> you talking about? You still already do. >> you talking about? You still already do. >> you talking about? You still already do. >> I don't go I'm not 3 hours a day. >> I don't go I'm not 3 hours a day. >> I don't go I'm not 3 hours a day. >> Well, no. Okay. >> Well, no. Okay. >> Well, no. Okay. >> I'm saying if I had >> I'm saying if I had >> I'm saying if I had >> Yeah, but you never miss. >> Yeah, but you never miss. >> Yeah, but you never miss. >> Yeah, but it's my point is I'd be 3 >> Yeah, but it's my point is I'd be 3 >> Yeah, but it's my point is I'd be 3 hours a day if I had even worse. Even hours a day if I had even worse. Even hours a day if I had even worse. Even more even more crazy. more even more crazy. more even more crazy. >> That's right. I don't know. It's uh I >> That's right. I don't know. It's uh I >> That's right. I don't know. It's uh I mean still at that place where this is mean still at that place where this is mean still at that place where this is where it's hard when again and I think where it's hard when again and I think where it's hard when again and I think this is the exact same challenge that this is the exact same challenge that this is the exact same challenge that you feel with it is you're healthy, you feel with it is you're healthy, you feel with it is you're healthy, you're fit, you look good. You know what you're fit, you look good. You know what you're fit, you look good. You know what I'm saying? So it's it's really tough to I'm saying? So it's it's really tough to I'm saying? So it's it's really tough to tell somebody to break that when they tell somebody to break that when they tell somebody to break that when they have all these these positive things have all these these positive things have all these these positive things that they have felt from it and their that they have felt from it and their that they have felt from it and their body is not screaming at them. That's body is not screaming at them. That's body is not screaming at them. That's right. right. right. >> Um and and telling them they can't do >> Um and and telling them they can't do >> Um and and telling them they can't do that. But there's also other sides of that. But there's also other sides of that. But there's also other sides of this sometimes too. It's not just this sometimes too. It's not just this sometimes too. It's not just dysfunction on that side. you can become dysfunction on that side. you can become dysfunction on that side. you can become just functional in your social and your just functional in your social and your just functional in your social and your >> That's why I asked her. >> That's why I asked her. >> That's why I asked her. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> She probably doesn't have >> She probably doesn't have >> She probably doesn't have you can't work out that much and not you can't work out that much and not you can't work out that much and not have I mean and if you don't have that have I mean and if you don't have that have I mean and if you don't have that and you feel kind of lonely or and you feel kind of lonely or and you feel kind of lonely or >> and and what happens is that person ends >> and and what happens is that person ends >> and and what happens is that person ends up that type of person lots of friends up that type of person lots of friends up that type of person lots of friends and been close to like this. You either and been close to like this. You either and been close to like this. You either don't or you find another person with don't or you find another person with don't or you find another person with the same issue of course the same issue of course the same issue of course >> and then you both obsess over it >> and then you both obsess over it >> and then you both obsess over it together. And that's why we see so many together. And that's why we see so many together. And that's why we see so many people in the fitness space that are people in the fitness space that are people in the fitness space that are both bikini competitor and bodybuilder, both bikini competitor and bodybuilder, both bikini competitor and bodybuilder, you know, together because they they you know, together because they they you know, together because they they share this addiction together because share this addiction together because share this addiction together because they can't date anybody else that as at they can't date anybody else that as at they can't date anybody else that as at all balance because doesn't work. So all balance because doesn't work. So all balance because doesn't work. So they have and no idea and they tell they have and no idea and they tell they have and no idea and they tell themselves they're so in love and they themselves they're so in love and they themselves they're so in love and they have all this in common when it's like have all this in common when it's like have all this in common when it's like yeah, you have this unhealthy yeah, you have this unhealthy yeah, you have this unhealthy relationship with exercise that's in relationship with exercise that's in relationship with exercise that's in common. And so got to break free of that common. And so got to break free of that common. And so got to break free of that or you'll have a really hard time or you'll have a really hard time or you'll have a really hard time connecting to somebody who doesn't want connecting to somebody who doesn't want connecting to somebody who doesn't want to take 3 hours of walk a day and hour to take 3 hours of walk a day and hour to take 3 hours of walk a day and hour and a half training sessions every and a half training sessions every and a half training sessions every single day and measure every food they single day and measure every food they single day and measure every food they eat. eat. eat. >> Totally. All right, I know you like that >> Totally. All right, I know you like that >> Totally. All right, I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. episode. If you did, check this one out. episode. If you did, check this one out. 30% body fat for men. This is way too 30% body fat for men. This is way too 30% body fat for men. This is way too high. This is actually a bit high for high. This is actually a bit high for high. This is actually a bit high for women as well. So today's episode, we're women as well. So today's episode, we're women as well. So today's episode, we're talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%? Yes, it's possible. but from 30 to 10%? Yes, it's possible. but from 30 to 10%? Yes, it's possible. but not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do that in today's episode. that in today's episode. that in today's episode. >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little bit higher