These 5 Exercises Are Almost Never Done Right (And It's Hurting Your Progress) | Mind Pump 2884

June 20, 2026 1h 47m
Summary published by 1% Better, updated July 9, 2026.
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Key Takeaway

Stop wasting time on exercises done wrong. Most gym-goers perform jump boxes, hip abduction machines, circuits, renegade rows, and ultra-high rep sets incorrectly—using them for fatigue rather than their intended purpose. Jump boxes should build explosive power with full rest between reps, not cardio endurance. Hip abduction machines work best as priming or corrective tools, not primary glute builders. Focus on technique over exhaustion, and choose exercises that match your actual goals.
Episode Overview

The hosts critique five commonly misused exercises in gyms, explaining why most people perform them incorrectly and suggesting better alternatives. They discuss how exercises like jump boxes, hip abduction machines, circuits, renegade rows, and ultra-high rep sets are often used for fatigue rather than their intended purposes, and share personal stories about their own training mistakes.
Main Insights

Jump Boxes Are About Power, Not Cardio

Jump boxes should train explosive power and muscle coordination, not stamina. Proper execution means jumping with maximum effort, stepping down, and resting fully between reps—never doing them to fatigue. Most people incorrectly use them as a cardio exercise, which defeats the purpose and increases injury risk, especially for middle-aged individuals.
Hip Abduction Machines Are Priming Tools, Not Glute Builders

Hip abduction machines have value for correctional work and muscle priming before main lifts, but they're ineffective as primary glute-building exercises. Better alternatives include lateral movements like sled drags, tube walking, and cossack squats, which provide both aesthetic benefits and functional carryover to real-world movement patterns.
Circuits Prioritize Fatigue Over Technique

Most people perform circuits with the goal of exhaustion rather than skill development or proper form. While circuits can be useful for building stamina or when time is limited, they're often misapplied. Proper circuit training maintains technique throughout, never letting form break down for the sake of completing more reps.
The Guilty Trainer's Dilemma

Many trainers knowingly program suboptimal workouts because they cater to client expectations rather than delivering what would actually produce the best results. Boot camps and circuit classes succeed because of community and shared struggle, not because they're the most effective training methods for most people's goals.
Ultra-High Reps Turn Strength Training Into Cardio

Performing 30-40+ reps of any exercise shifts the limiting factor from muscular failure to cardiovascular endurance. While high-rep training to failure can build muscle, once cardiovascular capacity becomes the bottleneck, you're essentially doing cardio with weights—and safer, more effective cardio options exist.
Notable Quotes

"Look, if you want to make progress, stop doing these five exercises. They're wasting your time. They're sending you backwards. And it's mostly about how you do them, you guys. The exercises themselves are okay. You just do them wrong. Everybody does them wrong."

Sal
"The guilt comes from I knew better and I still did. That's where the guilt comes from."

Adam
"I was training boot camps. I had them all over the Bay Area. I had always classes anywhere between 15 to 30 people. The business side of it I was doing very well. But I knew this is not the best way to get them there, but also knowing that this was affordable for them to do."

Justin
"The hardest part about this conversation for me is the guilt that I carry over stuff like this. And I did all the shins."

Sal
"You know what they really loved, Adam, was the community that they built and the shared struggle. Because they were together. They were going hard and that actually builds bonds and that's why they showed up."

Sal
Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.
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Use Jump Boxes for Power, Not Cardio
If you do jump boxes, perform them with maximum explosive effort, step down (never jump down), and rest 30-60 seconds between reps. Do only 3-5 reps per set. If you're doing them until exhausted, you're training the wrong energy system.
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Replace Hip Abduction Machines with Functional Lateral Movements
Instead of using hip abduction machines as a primary glute exercise, incorporate lateral lunges, cossack squats, or sled drags into your routine. These provide better functional carryover while still targeting the glute medius.
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Prioritize Technique Over Fatigue in Circuits
If you use circuits, never sacrifice form for speed or exhaustion. Stop a set when your technique breaks down, regardless of how many reps remain. Better yet, consider replacing circuits with focused practice on 1-2 fundamental movements like squats and overhead presses.
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Keep Hypertrophy Training Below 30 Reps
If your goal is building muscle, keep your rep ranges below 30 per set. Beyond this point, cardiovascular endurance becomes the limiting factor, not muscular failure, making the exercise essentially cardio with weights.
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Look, if you want to make progress, stop Look, if you want to make progress, stop doing these five exercises. They're doing these five exercises. They're doing these five exercises. They're wasting your time. They're sending you wasting your time. They're sending you wasting your time. They're sending you back around uh backwards. And it's uh back around uh backwards. And it's uh back around uh backwards. And it's uh it's mostly about how you do them, you it's mostly about how you do them, you it's mostly about how you do them, you guys. The exercises themselves are okay. guys. The exercises themselves are okay. guys. The exercises themselves are okay. You just do them wrong. Everybody does You just do them wrong. Everybody does You just do them wrong. Everybody does them wrong. them wrong. them wrong. &gt;&gt; Let's talk about them. &gt;&gt; Let's talk about them. &gt;&gt; Let's talk about them. &gt;&gt; Let's piss some people off. &gt;&gt; Let's piss some people off. &gt;&gt; Let's piss some people off. &gt;&gt; Yes. So, the things that I listed aren't &gt;&gt; Yes. So, the things that I listed aren't &gt;&gt; Yes. So, the things that I listed aren't necessarily bad. Well, you you've we you necessarily bad. Well, you you've we you necessarily bad. Well, you you've we you could preface this with something that could preface this with something that could preface this with something that we've said many times on the show that we've said many times on the show that we've said many times on the show that any exercise performed correctly and any exercise performed correctly and any exercise performed correctly and safely safely safely &gt;&gt; for the right reason, right? &gt;&gt; for the right reason, right? &gt;&gt; for the right reason, right? &gt;&gt; It's great. &gt;&gt; It's great. &gt;&gt; It's great. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; The ones I'm listing here are almost &gt;&gt; The ones I'm listing here are almost &gt;&gt; The ones I'm listing here are almost never done. never done. never done. &gt;&gt; Misused exercises. Yes. &gt;&gt; Misused exercises. Yes. &gt;&gt; Misused exercises. Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. And this came to me today uh &gt;&gt; Yes. And this came to me today uh &gt;&gt; Yes. And this came to me today uh working out uh in the gym. I was this working out uh in the gym. I was this working out uh in the gym. I was this morning I went to the gym working out. morning I went to the gym working out. morning I went to the gym working out. I'm doing real light uh stuff this week I'm doing real light uh stuff this week I'm doing real light uh stuff this week cuz I was sick earlier. But I'm in there cuz I was sick earlier. But I'm in there cuz I was sick earlier. But I'm in there and I always, you know, I can see what and I always, you know, I can see what and I always, you know, I can see what people are doing and um you know, my people are doing and um you know, my people are doing and um you know, my trainer brain is always on and I see, trainer brain is always on and I see, trainer brain is always on and I see, you know, sure enough, a couple women uh you know, sure enough, a couple women uh you know, sure enough, a couple women uh older women and I'd say middle-aged um older women and I'd say middle-aged um older women and I'd say middle-aged um doing jump boxes. doing jump boxes. doing jump boxes. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; And I never I've never I'm trying to &gt;&gt; And I never I've never I'm trying to &gt;&gt; And I never I've never I'm trying to think right now. Have I ever seen think right now. Have I ever seen think right now. Have I ever seen anybody do a jump box the right way? anybody do a jump box the right way? anybody do a jump box the right way? &gt;&gt; I have very rarely. &gt;&gt; I have very rarely. &gt;&gt; I have very rarely. &gt;&gt; Maybe once. &gt;&gt; Maybe once. &gt;&gt; Maybe once. &gt;&gt; I get actually I get excited when I see &gt;&gt; I get actually I get excited when I see &gt;&gt; I get actually I get excited when I see it. it. it. Oh, this person knows what they're Oh, this person knows what they're Oh, this person knows what they're doing. doing. doing. &gt;&gt; Either they are a trainer or they've had &gt;&gt; Either they are a trainer or they've had &gt;&gt; Either they are a trainer or they've had a really good a really good a really good &gt;&gt; a trainer gym is usually where I've seen &gt;&gt; a trainer gym is usually where I've seen &gt;&gt; a trainer gym is usually where I've seen it. it. it. &gt;&gt; So, jump boxes or jumping on a box. The &gt;&gt; So, jump boxes or jumping on a box. The &gt;&gt; So, jump boxes or jumping on a box. The the purpose of this exercise is to the purpose of this exercise is to the purpose of this exercise is to improve your power. improve your power. improve your power. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Your explosive power. &gt;&gt; Your explosive power. &gt;&gt; Your explosive power. &gt;&gt; Uh what you're doing is you're &gt;&gt; Uh what you're doing is you're &gt;&gt; Uh what you're doing is you're practicing and training your body to practicing and training your body to practicing and training your body to organize its muscles in a way to exert organize its muscles in a way to exert organize its muscles in a way to exert strength quickly. Okay? In other words, strength quickly. Okay? In other words, strength quickly. Okay? In other words, if you do a jump box the right way, it if you do a jump box the right way, it if you do a jump box the right way, it it's not with fatigue because I'm not it's not with fatigue because I'm not it's not with fatigue because I'm not training stamina. I'm training skill, training stamina. I'm training skill, training stamina. I'm training skill, technique, and the ability to generate technique, and the ability to generate technique, and the ability to generate force quickly. And what it looks like is force quickly. And what it looks like is force quickly. And what it looks like is I prepare myself. I jump as hard as I I prepare myself. I jump as hard as I I prepare myself. I jump as hard as I can. I step down, actually wait a little can. I step down, actually wait a little can. I step down, actually wait a little bit. I wait, wait for a while, and then bit. I wait, wait for a while, and then bit. I wait, wait for a while, and then I try it again. Never doing it to I try it again. Never doing it to I try it again. Never doing it to fatigue. Nobody does it that way. fatigue. Nobody does it that way. fatigue. Nobody does it that way. &gt;&gt; Everybody does it like this. Jump, jump, &gt;&gt; Everybody does it like this. Jump, jump, &gt;&gt; Everybody does it like this. Jump, jump, jump until they get real tired. jump until they get real tired. jump until they get real tired. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, somewhere around um I don't &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, somewhere around um I don't &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, somewhere around um I don't know if it was boot camps or like know if it was boot camps or like know if it was boot camps or like circuit train where like trainers would circuit train where like trainers would circuit train where like trainers would find exercises that would just exhaust find exercises that would just exhaust find exercises that would just exhaust people. And so um anytime you jump, you people. And so um anytime you jump, you people. And so um anytime you jump, you know, it's like physically exhausting, know, it's like physically exhausting, know, it's like physically exhausting, but uh it defeats the purpose of what but uh it defeats the purpose of what but uh it defeats the purpose of what you're actually trying to work on with you're actually trying to work on with you're actually trying to work on with this particular exercise. And it it does this particular exercise. And it it does this particular exercise. And it it does it gets under my skin cuz it's like a it gets under my skin cuz it's like a it gets under my skin cuz it's like a very valuable um skill to learn and to very valuable um skill to learn and to very valuable um skill to learn and to ma maintain uh especially as you age ma maintain uh especially as you age ma maintain uh especially as you age like but at the same time if you're not like but at the same time if you're not like but at the same time if you're not applying it correctly now we're not applying it correctly now we're not applying it correctly now we're not gaining the benefits from it. We're gaining the benefits from it. We're gaining the benefits from it. We're teaching ourselves just bad behaviors. teaching ourselves just bad behaviors. teaching ourselves just bad behaviors. &gt;&gt; The hardest part about this conversation &gt;&gt; The hardest part about this conversation &gt;&gt; The hardest part about this conversation for me is the guilt that I carry over for me is the guilt that I carry over for me is the guilt that I carry over stuff like this. stuff like this. stuff like this. &gt;&gt; Oh god. &gt;&gt; Oh god. &gt;&gt; Oh god. &gt;&gt; And I did all the shins. &gt;&gt; And I did all the shins. &gt;&gt; And I did all the shins. &gt;&gt; Exactly what Justin said is what I did. &gt;&gt; Exactly what Justin said is what I did. &gt;&gt; Exactly what Justin said is what I did. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and so and what what the guilt &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and so and what what the guilt &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and so and what what the guilt it come because I don't I wouldn't have it come because I don't I wouldn't have it come because I don't I wouldn't have guilt if uh I didn't know better and I guilt if uh I didn't know better and I guilt if uh I didn't know better and I was naive. The guilt comes from I knew was naive. The guilt comes from I knew was naive. The guilt comes from I knew better and I still did. better and I still did. better and I still did. &gt;&gt; Oh, &gt;&gt; Oh, &gt;&gt; Oh, &gt;&gt; that that's where the guilt comes from. &gt;&gt; that that's where the guilt comes from. &gt;&gt; that that's where the guilt comes from. The guilt goes from The guilt goes from The guilt goes from &gt;&gt; I don't know if I did it that bad. &gt;&gt; I don't know if I did it that bad. &gt;&gt; I don't know if I did it that bad. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I definitely did. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I definitely did. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I definitely did. &gt;&gt; Uh worse than we are. I [laughter] &gt;&gt; Uh worse than we are. I [laughter] &gt;&gt; Uh worse than we are. I [laughter] successful, successful, successful, &gt;&gt; you know, and I off air one the other &gt;&gt; you know, and I off air one the other &gt;&gt; you know, and I off air one the other day, I think we kind of talked a a day, I think we kind of talked a a day, I think we kind of talked a a little bit about this, that, you know, little bit about this, that, you know, little bit about this, that, you know, there there came a period of time where there there came a period of time where there there came a period of time where um I was training boot camps. I I had um I was training boot camps. I I had um I was training boot camps. I I had them all all over the Bay Area and um I them all all over the Bay Area and um I them all all over the Bay Area and um I had always classes anywhere between 15 had always classes anywhere between 15 had always classes anywhere between 15 to 30 people. It's a good size. to 30 people. It's a good size. to 30 people. It's a good size. &gt;&gt; You had a burgeoning business. &gt;&gt; You had a burgeoning business. &gt;&gt; You had a burgeoning business. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Know, it was good. It was very &gt;&gt; Yeah. Know, it was good. It was very &gt;&gt; Yeah. Know, it was good. It was very successful business. I had I had trainer successful business. I had I had trainer successful business. I had I had trainer multiple trainers underneath me. I had multiple trainers underneath me. I had multiple trainers underneath me. I had camps running at multiple parks at a camps running at multiple parks at a camps running at multiple parks at a time and so uh it was doing and I think time and so uh it was doing and I think time and so uh it was doing and I think this is the part that I think where the this is the part that I think where the this is the part that I think where the guilt comes from guilt comes from guilt comes from &gt;&gt; like the business side of it I was doing &gt;&gt; like the business side of it I was doing &gt;&gt; like the business side of it I was doing very well. very well. very well. &gt;&gt; Um but I I knew this is again this is &gt;&gt; Um but I I knew this is again this is &gt;&gt; Um but I I knew this is again this is also what led the beauty of this story also what led the beauty of this story also what led the beauty of this story is that it's what connected us and why is that it's what connected us and why is that it's what connected us and why maps anabolic was so special to me when maps anabolic was so special to me when maps anabolic was so special to me when you sent it to me is because I'm at this you sent it to me is because I'm at this you sent it to me is because I'm at this place in my life already where I know place in my life already where I know place in my life already where I know like this is how I should be training like this is how I should be training like this is how I should be training most of my clients. Um, and that's what most of my clients. Um, and that's what most of my clients. Um, and that's what gets them real long-term results. Yet, I gets them real long-term results. Yet, I gets them real long-term results. Yet, I have all these camp these successful have all these camp these successful have all these camp these successful camps that have got just array of people camps that have got just array of people camps that have got just array of people from ages 20 to 65, you know, uh, mostly from ages 20 to 65, you know, uh, mostly from ages 20 to 65, you know, uh, mostly trying to lose weight or get in shape, trying to lose weight or get in shape, trying to lose weight or get in shape, and I'm running them through these and I'm running them through these and I'm running them through these circuit-based workouts circuit-based workouts circuit-based workouts &gt;&gt; and knowing that this is not the best &gt;&gt; and knowing that this is not the best &gt;&gt; and knowing that this is not the best way to get to them, but also knowing way to get to them, but also knowing way to get to them, but also knowing that this was affordable for them to do. that this was affordable for them to do. that this was affordable for them to do. And so the justification is, well, this And so the justification is, well, this And so the justification is, well, this is better than nothing. They're moving. is better than nothing. They're moving. is better than nothing. They're moving. You know what I'm saying? They Exactly. You know what I'm saying? They Exactly. You know what I'm saying? They Exactly. They Oh, they loved it. I mean, that was They Oh, they loved it. I mean, that was They Oh, they loved it. I mean, that was the other part, too, is that they're the other part, too, is that they're the other part, too, is that they're they're loving, high-fing, and you know, they're loving, high-fing, and you know, they're loving, high-fing, and you know, celebrating what an awesome coach I am celebrating what an awesome coach I am celebrating what an awesome coach I am and all that, but inside of me, I'm and all that, but inside of me, I'm and all that, but inside of me, I'm going I'm not helping any of these going I'm not helping any of these going I'm not helping any of these people really. And so I that so when we people really. And so I that so when we people really. And so I that so when we talk about this stuff it's tough for me talk about this stuff it's tough for me talk about this stuff it's tough for me because I knew about and so I wonder how because I knew about and so I wonder how because I knew about and so I wonder how many trainers cuz we talk about how we many trainers cuz we talk about how we many trainers cuz we talk about how we see this stuff and it's like you never see this stuff and it's like you never see this stuff and it's like you never see it done appropriately cuz we have see it done appropriately cuz we have see it done appropriately cuz we have that many dumb trainers out there. Is that many dumb trainers out there. Is that many dumb trainers out there. Is there that many bad train or is there a there that many bad train or is there a there that many bad train or is there a lot of them that might have be in the lot of them that might have be in the lot of them that might have be in the same spot as me? It's just like this same spot as me? It's just like this same spot as me? It's just like this keeps them busy. keeps them busy. keeps them busy. &gt;&gt; There may be that conundrum where &gt;&gt; There may be that conundrum where &gt;&gt; There may be that conundrum where they're feeding them what they want you they're feeding them what they want you they're feeding them what they want you know. know. know. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and a lot of times, yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and a lot of times, yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and a lot of times, yeah, trainers, new trainers especially, will trainers, new trainers especially, will trainers, new trainers especially, will fall into that trap of of really trying fall into that trap of of really trying fall into that trap of of really trying to um cater to uh the expectation that to um cater to uh the expectation that to um cater to uh the expectation that the client's already coming in with. And the client's already coming in with. And the client's already coming in with. And so they want like something super hard so they want like something super hard so they want like something super hard and and fatiguing and and you know, get and and fatiguing and and you know, get and and fatiguing and and you know, get the sweat and the sore and all that kind the sweat and the sore and all that kind the sweat and the sore and all that kind of stuff and it leads into these bad of stuff and it leads into these bad of stuff and it leads into these bad practices. I I just got to I just got to practices. I I just got to I just got to practices. I I just got to I just got to uh just back you up a little bit, Adam, uh just back you up a little bit, Adam, uh just back you up a little bit, Adam, because uh although you did that, what because uh although you did that, what because uh although you did that, what people don't know is that Adam uh people don't know is that Adam uh people don't know is that Adam uh stopped those classes and then offered stopped those classes and then offered stopped those classes and then offered mobility, free mobility classes for mobility, free mobility classes for mobility, free mobility classes for years, years, years, &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; Okay. So, we had Mind Pump going on for &gt;&gt; Okay. So, we had Mind Pump going on for &gt;&gt; Okay. So, we had Mind Pump going on for a long time. [laughter] a long time. [laughter] a long time. [laughter] &gt;&gt; He invited everybody here for mobility &gt;&gt; He invited everybody here for mobility &gt;&gt; He invited everybody here for mobility classes for free for years and years. It classes for free for years and years. It classes for free for years and years. It will come in on a Saturday to do it. So, will come in on a Saturday to do it. So, will come in on a Saturday to do it. So, you're not all bad. you're not all bad. you're not all bad. guilt is a powerful guilt [laughter] is guilt is a powerful guilt [laughter] is guilt is a powerful guilt [laughter] is a powerful motivator. a powerful motivator. a powerful motivator. &gt;&gt; So, &gt;&gt; So, &gt;&gt; So, &gt;&gt; but you know, jump boxes if you do them &gt;&gt; but you know, jump boxes if you do them &gt;&gt; but you know, jump boxes if you do them to fatigue, you're just training to fatigue, you're just training to fatigue, you're just training stamina, in which case you could do stamina, in which case you could do stamina, in which case you could do anything. Uh you can run in place, you anything. Uh you can run in place, you anything. Uh you can run in place, you can do jumping jacks, you you could do can do jumping jacks, you you could do can do jumping jacks, you you could do safer movements. Yeah, safer movements. Yeah, safer movements. Yeah, &gt;&gt; jump boxes [snorts] actually are quite &gt;&gt; jump boxes [snorts] actually are quite &gt;&gt; jump boxes [snorts] actually are quite high risk uh to fatigue, especially when high risk uh to fatigue, especially when high risk uh to fatigue, especially when you're taking a middle-aged person. you're taking a middle-aged person. you're taking a middle-aged person. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Who's trying to jump on something? You &gt;&gt; Who's trying to jump on something? You &gt;&gt; Who's trying to jump on something? You know, how many times you see someone know, how many times you see someone know, how many times you see someone trip over the box and fall? Like my trip over the box and fall? Like my trip over the box and fall? Like my biggest Yeah, biggest Yeah, biggest Yeah, &gt;&gt; the shin eating is is brutal. &gt;&gt; the shin eating is is brutal. &gt;&gt; the shin eating is is brutal. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I so I was doing these I had &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I so I was doing these I had &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I so I was doing these I had some boot camp classes early on. The some boot camp classes early on. The some boot camp classes early on. The reason why I stopped them wasn't for the reason why I stopped them wasn't for the reason why I stopped them wasn't for the same reasons, Adam was cuz I hated same reasons, Adam was cuz I hated same reasons, Adam was cuz I hated teaching them. So I was like, I'm not teaching them. So I was like, I'm not teaching them. So I was like, I'm not doing this anymore. Later I learned uh doing this anymore. Later I learned uh doing this anymore. Later I learned uh you know how to actually do explosive you know how to actually do explosive you know how to actually do explosive training properly. training properly. training properly. &gt;&gt; The reason why I put them on my classes &gt;&gt; The reason why I put them on my classes &gt;&gt; The reason why I put them on my classes was because I was trying to make them was because I was trying to make them was because I was trying to make them entertaining. entertaining. entertaining. &gt;&gt; It was like I'm putting a bunch of &gt;&gt; It was like I'm putting a bunch of &gt;&gt; It was like I'm putting a bunch of exercises together. Let me pick a bunch exercises together. Let me pick a bunch exercises together. Let me pick a bunch of movements that seem fun of movements that seem fun of movements that seem fun &gt;&gt; and different. Every class had to be &gt;&gt; and different. Every class had to be &gt;&gt; and different. Every class had to be different, you know, type of deal. I different, you know, type of deal. I different, you know, type of deal. I used to well I mean I used to do used to well I mean I used to do used to well I mean I used to do something cringe too when when uh you something cringe too when when uh you something cringe too when when uh you know you're trying to make it exciting know you're trying to make it exciting know you're trying to make it exciting and all that. So I would like hold pads and all that. So I would like hold pads and all that. So I would like hold pads you know and there [laughter] so you know and there [laughter] so you know and there [laughter] so irrelevant you know other people punch. irrelevant you know other people punch. irrelevant you know other people punch. &gt;&gt; It's the worst punches you've ever seen &gt;&gt; It's the worst punches you've ever seen &gt;&gt; It's the worst punches you've ever seen is rabbit punching and like [laughter] is rabbit punching and like [laughter] is rabbit punching and like [laughter] and I'm just like sitting there like oh and I'm just like sitting there like oh and I'm just like sitting there like oh my god I hope no like real MMA right my god I hope no like real MMA right my god I hope no like real MMA right now. now. now. &gt;&gt; You remember when we remember when we we &gt;&gt; You remember when we remember when we we &gt;&gt; You remember when we remember when we we became friends with Tony Jeff and he became friends with Tony Jeff and he became friends with Tony Jeff and he came on the show a long time ago. That came on the show a long time ago. That came on the show a long time ago. That was like his he was a you know exactual was like his he was a you know exactual was like his he was a you know exactual gold medalist teach him technique. gold medalist teach him technique. gold medalist teach him technique. And so that was like his thing that And so that was like his thing that And so that was like his thing that drove him crazy. He was watching all drove him crazy. He was watching all drove him crazy. He was watching all these trainers and I'm I remember when these trainers and I'm I remember when these trainers and I'm I remember when we first was like, "Oh yeah, I was one we first was like, "Oh yeah, I was one we first was like, "Oh yeah, I was one of those trainers who was holding pads of those trainers who was holding pads of those trainers who was holding pads with no boxing skills." with no boxing skills." with no boxing skills." &gt;&gt; Nobody leaves one of those classes being &gt;&gt; Nobody leaves one of those classes being &gt;&gt; Nobody leaves one of those classes being like, "I can fight." like, "I can fight." like, "I can fight." &gt;&gt; No, actually the guilt of that made me &gt;&gt; No, actually the guilt of that made me &gt;&gt; No, actually the guilt of that made me go get training, you know, and like go get training, you know, and like go get training, you know, and like learn the skill of it more thoroughly. learn the skill of it more thoroughly. learn the skill of it more thoroughly. But like I was just like, "Oh god, it's But like I was just like, "Oh god, it's But like I was just like, "Oh god, it's cringe." cringe." cringe." &gt;&gt; Jump boxes done right have a lot of &gt;&gt; Jump boxes done right have a lot of &gt;&gt; Jump boxes done right have a lot of value. Uh but nobody does them right. value. Uh but nobody does them right. value. Uh but nobody does them right. And so most people listening right now, And so most people listening right now, And so most people listening right now, if you're doing them, you're probably if you're doing them, you're probably if you're doing them, you're probably doing them for the reasons I said doing them for the reasons I said doing them for the reasons I said earlier, which is just a fatigue. in earlier, which is just a fatigue. in earlier, which is just a fatigue. in which case you're you're you're wasting which case you're you're you're wasting which case you're you're you're wasting your time and or worse, you're your time and or worse, you're your time and or worse, you're compromising your body's ability to compromising your body's ability to compromising your body's ability to recover and adapt from the stuff that recover and adapt from the stuff that recover and adapt from the stuff that matters that you're doing like your matters that you're doing like your matters that you're doing like your traditional lifts. traditional lifts. traditional lifts. &gt;&gt; Uh next up, hip abduction machines. &gt;&gt; Uh next up, hip abduction machines. &gt;&gt; Uh next up, hip abduction machines. We're going to get flame for this. Yeah, We're going to get flame for this. Yeah, We're going to get flame for this. Yeah, &gt;&gt; everybody does them. Uh everybody does &gt;&gt; everybody does them. Uh everybody does &gt;&gt; everybody does them. Uh everybody does them for the wrong reasons. Look, guys, them for the wrong reasons. Look, guys, them for the wrong reasons. Look, guys, hip abduction. These are the machines hip abduction. These are the machines hip abduction. These are the machines where you you you open your legs, right? where you you you open your legs, right? where you you you open your legs, right? You push against pads and open your You push against pads and open your You push against pads and open your legs. And I know why people do them. legs. And I know why people do them. legs. And I know why people do them. Women in particular do them uh to build Women in particular do them uh to build Women in particular do them uh to build uh their butt. Okay. Now, hip abduction uh their butt. Okay. Now, hip abduction uh their butt. Okay. Now, hip abduction has a lot of value for correctional has a lot of value for correctional has a lot of value for correctional purposes. Okay. So, there's value there. purposes. Okay. So, there's value there. purposes. Okay. So, there's value there. Sometimes you need to strengthen the Sometimes you need to strengthen the Sometimes you need to strengthen the ability to abduct or stabilize in that ability to abduct or stabilize in that ability to abduct or stabilize in that way so you can perform the the the real way so you can perform the the the real way so you can perform the the the real big movers, your deadlifts and your your big movers, your deadlifts and your your big movers, your deadlifts and your your squats to give you more stability. The squats to give you more stability. The squats to give you more stability. The other reason why you would do these, and other reason why you would do these, and other reason why you would do these, and I have a hip abduction machine in my I have a hip abduction machine in my I have a hip abduction machine in my garage, and the reason why I bought them garage, and the reason why I bought them garage, and the reason why I bought them was so that my wife could do them to was so that my wife could do them to was so that my wife could do them to prime this part of her glutes so that prime this part of her glutes so that prime this part of her glutes so that when she does her hip thrust, when she does her hip thrust, when she does her hip thrust, &gt;&gt; she can she knows where to feel the &gt;&gt; she can she knows where to feel the &gt;&gt; she can she knows where to feel the movement correctly. Yeah. Cuz sometimes movement correctly. Yeah. Cuz sometimes movement correctly. Yeah. Cuz sometimes she has issues with feeling the movement she has issues with feeling the movement she has issues with feeling the movement in the right areas. And so as a priming in the right areas. And so as a priming in the right areas. And so as a priming movement or as a correctional exercise movement or as a correctional exercise movement or as a correctional exercise movement is great, but as a as a like movement is great, but as a as a like movement is great, but as a as a like primary exercise, as like a this is one primary exercise, as like a this is one primary exercise, as like a this is one of the main exercise I use to build my of the main exercise I use to build my of the main exercise I use to build my glute meat or whatever, glute meat or whatever, glute meat or whatever, &gt;&gt; uh you're wasting your time. It's it's &gt;&gt; uh you're wasting your time. It's it's &gt;&gt; uh you're wasting your time. It's it's it's not a very effective exercise at it's not a very effective exercise at it's not a very effective exercise at doing that. But if you do it for the doing that. But if you do it for the doing that. But if you do it for the right reasons, it could be great at right reasons, it could be great at right reasons, it could be great at amplifying the effectiveness amplifying the effectiveness amplifying the effectiveness &gt;&gt; of the better exercise. &gt;&gt; of the better exercise. &gt;&gt; of the better exercise. &gt;&gt; It's almost like Yeah, it I mean you &gt;&gt; It's almost like Yeah, it I mean you &gt;&gt; It's almost like Yeah, it I mean you just lateral movement in general is just lateral movement in general is just lateral movement in general is super neglected. There's so many better super neglected. There's so many better super neglected. There's so many better uh you know types of exercises like uh you know types of exercises like uh you know types of exercises like lateral lunges, costic squats, you know, lateral lunges, costic squats, you know, lateral lunges, costic squats, you know, you kind of go down that rabbit hole. you kind of go down that rabbit hole. you kind of go down that rabbit hole. There's just we don't move laterally There's just we don't move laterally There's just we don't move laterally enough and so I think that's just like a enough and so I think that's just like a enough and so I think that's just like a weak little band-aid compensation for weak little band-aid compensation for weak little band-aid compensation for that. A lot of times people are trying that. A lot of times people are trying that. A lot of times people are trying but they're trying to build for the but they're trying to build for the but they're trying to build for the wrong reasons too though. 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Enjoy the rest of the show. &gt;&gt; [snorts] &gt;&gt; [snorts] &gt;&gt; So would you guys put it in this same &gt;&gt; So would you guys put it in this same &gt;&gt; So would you guys put it in this same category or do you do you think these category or do you do you think these category or do you do you think these are similar are similar are similar comparing uh the the abductor like so comparing uh the the abductor like so comparing uh the the abductor like so the hip adductor machine to like a the hip adductor machine to like a the hip adductor machine to like a lateral raise. So what what the so lateral raise. So what what the so lateral raise. So what what the so you're working on the you know lateral you're working on the you know lateral you're working on the you know lateral head of the the shoulder similarly head of the the shoulder similarly head of the the shoulder similarly you're working on the glute me so like you're working on the glute me so like you're working on the glute me so like the side butt another way to say that the side butt another way to say that the side butt another way to say that small muscle small part of the butt or small muscle small part of the butt or small muscle small part of the butt or small small of the of the glute uh would small small of the of the glute uh would small small of the of the glute uh would you put it in that same category? you put it in that same category? you put it in that same category? &gt;&gt; No I think you'll get more hypertrophy &gt;&gt; No I think you'll get more hypertrophy &gt;&gt; No I think you'll get more hypertrophy out of a lateral out of a lateral out of a lateral &gt;&gt; Okay. So that's why I wanted to hear you &gt;&gt; Okay. So that's why I wanted to hear you &gt;&gt; Okay. So that's why I wanted to hear you articulate. articulate. articulate. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You'll get more muscle hypertrophy &gt;&gt; Yeah. You'll get more muscle hypertrophy &gt;&gt; Yeah. You'll get more muscle hypertrophy from a lateral than you will from hip from a lateral than you will from hip from a lateral than you will from hip abduction. And then back to what you to abduction. And then back to what you to abduction. And then back to what you to Justin's point which is he made a very Justin's point which is he made a very Justin's point which is he made a very good point. If you want lateral good point. If you want lateral good point. If you want lateral stability, uh, some of the best ways to stability, uh, some of the best ways to stability, uh, some of the best ways to do it are through lateral movement. The do it are through lateral movement. The do it are through lateral movement. The reason why sometimes hip abduction is reason why sometimes hip abduction is reason why sometimes hip abduction is better is it's low skill. better is it's low skill. better is it's low skill. &gt;&gt; So, I could take almost anybody and have &gt;&gt; So, I could take almost anybody and have &gt;&gt; So, I could take almost anybody and have them do hip abduction machine. Uh, them do hip abduction machine. Uh, them do hip abduction machine. Uh, lateral movement, there's more skill lateral movement, there's more skill lateral movement, there's more skill involved in the movement with walking involved in the movement with walking involved in the movement with walking and dragging things or whatever uh and dragging things or whatever uh and dragging things or whatever uh sometimes makes it uh more difficult uh sometimes makes it uh more difficult uh sometimes makes it uh more difficult uh to do and it requires a little bit more to do and it requires a little bit more to do and it requires a little bit more space and blah blah blah. So that that space and blah blah blah. So that that space and blah blah blah. So that that the argument that I that that I would the argument that I that that I would the argument that I that that I would always make for this is why it's always make for this is why it's always make for this is why it's terrible is that there's there's far terrible is that there's there's far terrible is that there's there's far better exercises to Justin's point that better exercises to Justin's point that better exercises to Justin's point that you could do that benefit you so much you could do that benefit you so much you could do that benefit you so much more. Yeah. more. Yeah. more. Yeah. &gt;&gt; For that like do just doing a a lateral &gt;&gt; For that like do just doing a a lateral &gt;&gt; For that like do just doing a a lateral sled sled drag even tube walking. sled sled drag even tube walking. sled sled drag even tube walking. &gt;&gt; Yeah. two walking is great &gt;&gt; Yeah. two walking is great &gt;&gt; Yeah. two walking is great &gt;&gt; I would argue is better and and because &gt;&gt; I would argue is better and and because &gt;&gt; I would argue is better and and because we neglect so much in that plane we neglect so much in that plane we neglect so much in that plane &gt;&gt; um so learning to do that getting good &gt;&gt; um so learning to do that getting good &gt;&gt; um so learning to do that getting good at movements costics yeah getting good at movements costics yeah getting good at movements costics yeah getting good at those movements it's so neglected if at those movements it's so neglected if at those movements it's so neglected if I'm already going to want to work on my I'm already going to want to work on my I'm already going to want to work on my glute me so for aesthetic reasons may as glute me so for aesthetic reasons may as glute me so for aesthetic reasons may as well also do a movement well also do a movement well also do a movement &gt;&gt; that is going to have other carryover &gt;&gt; that is going to have other carryover &gt;&gt; that is going to have other carryover too that's going to too that's going to too that's going to &gt;&gt; functionality &gt;&gt; functionality &gt;&gt; functionality &gt;&gt; yeah way more fun and and still give you &gt;&gt; yeah way more fun and and still give you &gt;&gt; yeah way more fun and and still give you the benefit you want right you want to the benefit you want right you want to the benefit you want right you want to build the part of your butt you and you build the part of your butt you and you build the part of your butt you and you want to get better connected to that want to get better connected to that want to get better connected to that &gt;&gt; why How do I get better connected, build &gt;&gt; why How do I get better connected, build &gt;&gt; why How do I get better connected, build it, and also do a movement that is got it, and also do a movement that is got it, and also do a movement that is got far more carryover to like human far more carryover to like human far more carryover to like human movement? movement? movement? &gt;&gt; And so, I mean, I would even argue like &gt;&gt; And so, I mean, I would even argue like &gt;&gt; And so, I mean, I would even argue like a, you know, like a side step up. You a, you know, like a side step up. You a, you know, like a side step up. You could do with a rotation in there. could do with a rotation in there. could do with a rotation in there. There's so I can think of I could There's so I can think of I could There's so I can think of I could probably list like uh probably list like uh probably list like uh &gt;&gt; there's at least 10 or 12, &gt;&gt; there's at least 10 or 12, &gt;&gt; there's at least 10 or 12, &gt;&gt; which by the way would be fun for us to &gt;&gt; which by the way would be fun for us to &gt;&gt; which by the way would be fun for us to I just saw something. I was watching one I just saw something. I was watching one I just saw something. I was watching one of my uh basketball um podcast stuff, of my uh basketball um podcast stuff, of my uh basketball um podcast stuff, okay? okay? okay? &gt;&gt; And they and this would be a fun &gt;&gt; And they and this would be a fun &gt;&gt; And they and this would be a fun exercise to do sometime with each other exercise to do sometime with each other exercise to do sometime with each other &gt;&gt; and this it just popped in my head right &gt;&gt; and this it just popped in my head right &gt;&gt; and this it just popped in my head right now. So the this hang in there with this now. So the this hang in there with this now. So the this hang in there with this analogy. So the guy goes I can name the analogy. So the guy goes I can name the analogy. So the guy goes I can name the first guy goes I can name one more guard first guy goes I can name one more guard first guy goes I can name one more guard better than SGA. And the next guy go oh better than SGA. And the next guy go oh better than SGA. And the next guy go oh I can name three guards better. Then he I can name three guards better. Then he I can name three guards better. Then he goes oh I can go five more. And they goes oh I can go five more. And they goes oh I can go five more. And they keep going around till Yeah. And then I keep going around till Yeah. And then I keep going around till Yeah. And then I go I nine. And then the other guys go oh go I nine. And then the other guys go oh go I nine. And then the other guys go oh I can't name nine. You got to give me I can't name nine. You got to give me I can't name nine. You got to give me nine. And so then now he's got a list. nine. And so then now he's got a list. nine. And so then now he's got a list. &gt;&gt; So I can name five exercises better. &gt;&gt; So I can name five exercises better. &gt;&gt; So I can name five exercises better. &gt;&gt; And so that just came so what came to &gt;&gt; And so that just came so what came to &gt;&gt; And so that just came so what came to mind is like I could I can name at least mind is like I could I can name at least mind is like I could I can name at least three exercises better than that. And three exercises better than that. And three exercises better than that. And then if you can up me, up me and then then if you can up me, up me and then then if you can up me, up me and then we'll keep going until somebody can't. we'll keep going until somebody can't. we'll keep going until somebody can't. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. I You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. I You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. I just I just saw it literally right just I just saw it literally right just I just saw it literally right before we got on. I'm like, "Oh, that'd before we got on. I'm like, "Oh, that'd before we got on. I'm like, "Oh, that'd be fun to do with the guys when we talk be fun to do with the guys when we talk be fun to do with the guys when we talk about movements like this cuz you know about movements like this cuz you know about movements like this cuz you know there's somebody on there screaming on there's somebody on there screaming on there's somebody on there screaming on the other side going like the other side going like the other side going like &gt;&gt; I think it's the best." &gt;&gt; I think it's the best." &gt;&gt; I think it's the best." &gt;&gt; Well, so here's here's another value and &gt;&gt; Well, so here's here's another value and &gt;&gt; Well, so here's here's another value and I'm not going to lie. This is a real I'm not going to lie. This is a real I'm not going to lie. This is a real value. Hip abduction. If you have a value. Hip abduction. If you have a value. Hip abduction. If you have a machine, it's easy and people are likely machine, it's easy and people are likely machine, it's easy and people are likely to do it. So when I say classic squats, to do it. So when I say classic squats, to do it. So when I say classic squats, side steps, drag a sled, that's a lot of side steps, drag a sled, that's a lot of side steps, drag a sled, that's a lot of work. And you take the average person, work. And you take the average person, work. And you take the average person, go do this. They're not with a trainer. go do this. They're not with a trainer. go do this. They're not with a trainer. &gt;&gt; A lot of them aren't even going to do &gt;&gt; A lot of them aren't even going to do &gt;&gt; A lot of them aren't even going to do it. They're not even going to try. But it. They're not even going to try. But it. They're not even going to try. But you tell them, get on the machine and, you tell them, get on the machine and, you tell them, get on the machine and, you know, do two sets of 15 rep. Okay. you know, do two sets of 15 rep. Okay. you know, do two sets of 15 rep. Okay. Sure, no problem. And so they're just Sure, no problem. And so they're just Sure, no problem. And so they're just more likely to do it. Uh, which is more likely to do it. Uh, which is more likely to do it. Uh, which is another value. But again, the way most another value. But again, the way most another value. But again, the way most people are using hip abduction machines, people are using hip abduction machines, people are using hip abduction machines, waste of time. Uh, next we have waste of time. Uh, next we have waste of time. Uh, next we have circuits. Uh, circuits, uh, are to build circuits. Uh, circuits, uh, are to build circuits. Uh, circuits, uh, are to build stamina. Nobody does them right. People stamina. Nobody does them right. People stamina. Nobody does them right. People pick exercises, throw them together, pick exercises, throw them together, pick exercises, throw them together, form goes out the window window, and form goes out the window window, and form goes out the window window, and it's like, let's just get as exhausted it's like, let's just get as exhausted it's like, let's just get as exhausted as possible. as possible. as possible. &gt;&gt; I can only name one value for it. &gt;&gt; I can only name one value for it. &gt;&gt; I can only name one value for it. &gt;&gt; Stamina. Stamina. Stamina. That's &gt;&gt; Stamina. Stamina. Stamina. That's &gt;&gt; Stamina. Stamina. Stamina. That's &gt;&gt; Well, okay. No, I can name two then. &gt;&gt; Well, okay. No, I can name two then. &gt;&gt; Well, okay. No, I can name two then. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; Okay. Uh, short on time. &gt;&gt; Okay. Uh, short on time. &gt;&gt; Okay. Uh, short on time. &gt;&gt; So, like if if I had a time where like &gt;&gt; So, like if if I had a time where like &gt;&gt; So, like if if I had a time where like &gt;&gt; it was like this and this is where I &gt;&gt; it was like this and this is where I &gt;&gt; it was like this and this is where I like to use I think you know triceps or like to use I think you know triceps or like to use I think you know triceps or &gt;&gt; would a tricep consider would you &gt;&gt; would a tricep consider would you &gt;&gt; would a tricep consider would you consider that a circuit? consider that a circuit? consider that a circuit? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would I would throw a tricep. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would I would throw a tricep. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would I would throw a tricep. Three or more? Three or more? Three or more? &gt;&gt; Yeah, three or more I would I mean I &gt;&gt; Yeah, three or more I would I mean I &gt;&gt; Yeah, three or more I would I mean I mean we're getting this is semantics mean we're getting this is semantics mean we're getting this is semantics &gt;&gt; with it. Sure, &gt;&gt; with it. Sure, &gt;&gt; with it. Sure, &gt;&gt; but I I I would I would argue three &gt;&gt; but I I I would I would argue three &gt;&gt; but I I I would I would argue three exercises or more with no rest periods exercises or more with no rest periods exercises or more with no rest periods in between would be considered like a in between would be considered like a in between would be considered like a circuit. circuit. circuit. &gt;&gt; And so where would I utilize and I would &gt;&gt; And so where would I utilize and I would &gt;&gt; And so where would I utilize and I would also lump HIT style workouts in this also lump HIT style workouts in this also lump HIT style workouts in this category. category. category. &gt;&gt; And so where would I utilize HIT or &gt;&gt; And so where would I utilize HIT or &gt;&gt; And so where would I utilize HIT or circuits uh aside from just trying to circuits uh aside from just trying to circuits uh aside from just trying to build uh you know muscle stamina uh build uh you know muscle stamina uh build uh you know muscle stamina uh would be short on time. would be short on time. would be short on time. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; And the novelty of it. It's like, "Oh &gt;&gt; And the novelty of it. It's like, "Oh &gt;&gt; And the novelty of it. It's like, "Oh man, that meeting ran late." Cut into my man, that meeting ran late." Cut into my man, that meeting ran late." Cut into my hour workout. I've literally only got 15 hour workout. I've literally only got 15 hour workout. I've literally only got 15 minutes. I haven't done a circuit in minutes. I haven't done a circuit in minutes. I haven't done a circuit in forever, so I'm going to get a little forever, so I'm going to get a little forever, so I'm going to get a little bit of, you know what I'm saying? So, I bit of, you know what I'm saying? So, I bit of, you know what I'm saying? So, I can see value periodically. can see value periodically. can see value periodically. &gt;&gt; You know, you know what the issue with &gt;&gt; You know, you know what the issue with &gt;&gt; You know, you know what the issue with circuits is? Is that when people do circuits is? Is that when people do circuits is? Is that when people do them, the fatigue is the answer. It's them, the fatigue is the answer. It's them, the fatigue is the answer. It's the goal. the goal. the goal. &gt;&gt; It's not about technique or form. It's &gt;&gt; It's not about technique or form. It's &gt;&gt; It's not about technique or form. It's do as many as possible. do as many as possible. do as many as possible. &gt;&gt; It's get through it. &gt;&gt; It's get through it. &gt;&gt; It's get through it. &gt;&gt; A proper circuit, like you're saying, &gt;&gt; A proper circuit, like you're saying, &gt;&gt; A proper circuit, like you're saying, technique is the most important thing. technique is the most important thing. technique is the most important thing. Like it's fatiguing, but you're not Like it's fatiguing, but you're not Like it's fatiguing, but you're not letting your form break down. letting your form break down. letting your form break down. &gt;&gt; Whereas when you see people do circuits, &gt;&gt; Whereas when you see people do circuits, &gt;&gt; Whereas when you see people do circuits, it's like go go go. it's like go go go. it's like go go go. &gt;&gt; What do they call it? A gauntlet. It's &gt;&gt; What do they call it? A gauntlet. It's &gt;&gt; What do they call it? A gauntlet. It's just like that's the mentality is like I just like that's the mentality is like I just like that's the mentality is like I have to get through this like obstacle have to get through this like obstacle have to get through this like obstacle course of movements. course of movements. course of movements. &gt;&gt; Well, the hard part the hard part to &gt;&gt; Well, the hard part the hard part to &gt;&gt; Well, the hard part the hard part to justify it like I'm saying is that I can justify it like I'm saying is that I can justify it like I'm saying is that I can also play devil's advocate or argue it also play devil's advocate or argue it also play devil's advocate or argue it on the other side that that's a terrible on the other side that that's a terrible on the other side that that's a terrible idea. For examp fewer sets, idea. For examp fewer sets, idea. For examp fewer sets, &gt;&gt; right? So, I'm I'm working out in my gym &gt;&gt; right? So, I'm I'm working out in my gym &gt;&gt; right? So, I'm I'm working out in my gym just the other day and you know they've just the other day and you know they've just the other day and you know they've got this class going on of you know nine got this class going on of you know nine got this class going on of you know nine people in a circuit and I'm watching people in a circuit and I'm watching people in a circuit and I'm watching them go through and they're literally them go through and they're literally them go through and they're literally doing like I think eight or nine doing like I think eight or nine doing like I think eight or nine stations for a half hour you know just stations for a half hour you know just stations for a half hour you know just they're just going around just the whole they're just going around just the whole they're just going around just the whole time non-stop right yeah time non-stop right yeah time non-stop right yeah &gt;&gt; yeah with I think every once in a while &gt;&gt; yeah with I think every once in a while &gt;&gt; yeah with I think every once in a while every five minutes they get like a water every five minutes they get like a water every five minutes they get like a water break and then they're right back to it break and then they're right back to it break and then they're right back to it or something like that and I'm watching or something like that and I'm watching or something like that and I'm watching I'm going like god everybody in this I'm going like god everybody in this I'm going like god everybody in this that's doing that right now would be far that's doing that right now would be far that's doing that right now would be far better doing like one or two like they better doing like one or two like they better doing like one or two like they they just barbell back squat for five they just barbell back squat for five they just barbell back squat for five sets. sets. sets. &gt;&gt; We're going to do squats and overhead &gt;&gt; We're going to do squats and overhead &gt;&gt; We're going to do squats and overhead presses today practice. presses today practice. presses today practice. &gt;&gt; That's it. We only got 30 minutes &gt;&gt; That's it. We only got 30 minutes &gt;&gt; That's it. We only got 30 minutes together or we got whatever minutes you together or we got whatever minutes you together or we got whatever minutes you have together. We're going to spend that have together. We're going to spend that have together. We're going to spend that entire time just getting good at the entire time just getting good at the entire time just getting good at the barbells and like and I would argue that barbells and like and I would argue that barbells and like and I would argue that most people that would be far more. Now, most people that would be far more. Now, most people that would be far more. Now, when I think of myself who does a lot of when I think of myself who does a lot of when I think of myself who does a lot of that already, that already, that already, &gt;&gt; who also knows technique and form, &gt;&gt; who also knows technique and form, &gt;&gt; who also knows technique and form, &gt;&gt; right? And I go where could I would I &gt;&gt; right? And I go where could I would I &gt;&gt; right? And I go where could I would I ever use a circuit? Well, I could see ever use a circuit? Well, I could see ever use a circuit? Well, I could see like, man, I haven't I don't train like, man, I haven't I don't train like, man, I haven't I don't train enough stamina as it is. I only got 20 enough stamina as it is. I only got 20 enough stamina as it is. I only got 20 minutes today. Let me let me let me let minutes today. Let me let me let me let minutes today. Let me let me let me let me push through a workout like that me push through a workout like that me push through a workout like that where I'm not where I'm not where I'm not &gt;&gt; I know I getting a bunch of strength &gt;&gt; I know I getting a bunch of strength &gt;&gt; I know I getting a bunch of strength gains from that at all, but it's like gains from that at all, but it's like gains from that at all, but it's like I'm limited on time. Let me try and hit I'm limited on time. Let me try and hit I'm limited on time. Let me try and hit a full body little circuit and get out a full body little circuit and get out a full body little circuit and get out of here. of here. of here. &gt;&gt; I think too it really feeds into the &gt;&gt; I think too it really feeds into the &gt;&gt; I think too it really feeds into the burning calorie mentality. I need to burning calorie mentality. I need to burning calorie mentality. I need to burn, you know, highest burn you burn, you know, highest burn you burn, you know, highest burn you circuit. So yeah, it's like circuit. So yeah, it's like circuit. So yeah, it's like &gt;&gt; and again the value of it is is just the &gt;&gt; and again the value of it is is just the &gt;&gt; and again the value of it is is just the endurance of it. I mean, you know, when endurance of it. I mean, you know, when endurance of it. I mean, you know, when you talk to someone, it's like, oh, you you talk to someone, it's like, oh, you you talk to someone, it's like, oh, you like circuits? Yeah, it's a great like circuits? Yeah, it's a great like circuits? Yeah, it's a great workout. What do you mean? Oh my god, I workout. What do you mean? Oh my god, I workout. What do you mean? Oh my god, I get so tired and sweaty. That's why it's get so tired and sweaty. That's why it's get so tired and sweaty. That's why it's a great a great a great &gt;&gt; Well, I mean, that was a trap I fell in &gt;&gt; Well, I mean, that was a trap I fell in &gt;&gt; Well, I mean, that was a trap I fell in with that boot camp, right? Part of why with that boot camp, right? Part of why with that boot camp, right? Part of why what kept me doing is that is the what kept me doing is that is the what kept me doing is that is the feedback is that every I mean, the ones feedback is that every I mean, the ones feedback is that every I mean, the ones they loved the most were the ones where they loved the most were the ones where they loved the most were the ones where they were falling over at the end, they were falling over at the end, they were falling over at the end, exhausted. exhausted. exhausted. &gt;&gt; You know what they really loved, not to &gt;&gt; You know what they really loved, not to &gt;&gt; You know what they really loved, not to go off on a tangent or or a side street go off on a tangent or or a side street go off on a tangent or or a side street here, but you know what they really here, but you know what they really here, but you know what they really loved, Adam, was the community that they loved, Adam, was the community that they loved, Adam, was the community that they built and the shared struggle. built and the shared struggle. built and the shared struggle. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Because they were together. They were &gt;&gt; Because they were together. They were &gt;&gt; Because they were together. They were going hard and that actually builds going hard and that actually builds going hard and that actually builds bonds and that's why they showed up. bonds and that's why they showed up. bonds and that's why they showed up. That's why they showed up and that's why That's why they showed up and that's why That's why they showed up and that's why &gt;&gt; CrossFit got big because it &gt;&gt; CrossFit got big because it &gt;&gt; CrossFit got big because it &gt;&gt; by the way the same people showed up to &gt;&gt; by the way the same people showed up to &gt;&gt; by the way the same people showed up to your free mobility class. They would your free mobility class. They would your free mobility class. They would come as friends and it was that come as friends and it was that come as friends and it was that community that it built [clears throat] community that it built [clears throat] community that it built [clears throat] which you know that's very valuable. which you know that's very valuable. which you know that's very valuable. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Next uh renegade rows. &gt;&gt; Next uh renegade rows. &gt;&gt; Next uh renegade rows. &gt;&gt; Renegade rows look cool. This is the &gt;&gt; Renegade rows look cool. This is the &gt;&gt; Renegade rows look cool. This is the only reason why people do them. Do you only reason why people do them. Do you only reason why people do them. Do you know what a renegade row is for? know what a renegade row is for? know what a renegade row is for? Anti-rotation. Anti-rotation. Anti-rotation. &gt;&gt; Anti-rotation. It's for anti-rotation &gt;&gt; Anti-rotation. It's for anti-rotation &gt;&gt; Anti-rotation. It's for anti-rotation everybody. But somehow people put it in everybody. But somehow people put it in everybody. But somehow people put it in their back workout. their back workout. their back workout. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like because it says row uh because it &gt;&gt; Like because it says row uh because it &gt;&gt; Like because it says row uh because it looks hard. It's an anti- It's a very looks hard. It's an anti- It's a very looks hard. It's an anti- It's a very specific application. It's to strengthen specific application. It's to strengthen specific application. It's to strengthen something called anti-rotation. And I something called anti-rotation. And I something called anti-rotation. And I almost never see anybody doing it who's almost never see anybody doing it who's almost never see anybody doing it who's working on anti-rotation. What I almost working on anti-rotation. What I almost working on anti-rotation. What I almost always see is someone picking a cool always see is someone picking a cool always see is someone picking a cool looking exercise and I'm working my back looking exercise and I'm working my back looking exercise and I'm working my back and so now I'm going to do this. and so now I'm going to do this. and so now I'm going to do this. &gt;&gt; Yeah, this is another just fatiguing &gt;&gt; Yeah, this is another just fatiguing &gt;&gt; Yeah, this is another just fatiguing exercise. It's really I mean you want exercise. It's really I mean you want exercise. It's really I mean you want you talk about jump boxes and this is up you talk about jump boxes and this is up you talk about jump boxes and this is up there with the the I mean this is like there with the the I mean this is like there with the the I mean this is like uh when you would see the uh when you would see the uh when you would see the &gt;&gt; squat curl presses, you know, or like &gt;&gt; squat curl presses, you know, or like &gt;&gt; squat curl presses, you know, or like you know [laughter] step up step up step you know [laughter] step up step up step you know [laughter] step up step up step up curl press, you know what I'm saying? up curl press, you know what I'm saying? up curl press, you know what I'm saying? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's that's what that's what this is. This is that's what this is. This is that's what this is. This is &gt;&gt; press the back lunge. &gt;&gt; press the back lunge. &gt;&gt; press the back lunge. &gt;&gt; Yeah. [laughter] &gt;&gt; Yeah. [laughter] &gt;&gt; Yeah. [laughter] That's what that's what this is is just That's what that's what this is is just That's what that's what this is is just like this is get that heart rate going. like this is get that heart rate going. like this is get that heart rate going. I mean, renegade rows. Uh cuz you're I mean, renegade rows. Uh cuz you're I mean, renegade rows. Uh cuz you're you're planking, rowing, you know what you're planking, rowing, you know what you're planking, rowing, you know what I'm saying? You're that's a lot. And so, I'm saying? You're that's a lot. And so, I'm saying? You're that's a lot. And so, it's just an exhausting exercise to it's just an exhausting exercise to it's just an exhausting exercise to throw in a in a circuit. throw in a in a circuit. throw in a in a circuit. &gt;&gt; Totally. And then lastly, we have ultra &gt;&gt; Totally. And then lastly, we have ultra &gt;&gt; Totally. And then lastly, we have ultra high rep anything. What do I mean ultra high rep anything. What do I mean ultra high rep anything. What do I mean ultra rep? High rep. Like 30 40 plus reps. rep? High rep. Like 30 40 plus reps. rep? High rep. Like 30 40 plus reps. &gt;&gt; At this point, it's cardio. &gt;&gt; At this point, it's cardio. &gt;&gt; At this point, it's cardio. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, &gt;&gt; you're doing cardio with weights, uh, in &gt;&gt; you're doing cardio with weights, uh, in &gt;&gt; you're doing cardio with weights, uh, in which case you could do something else, which case you could do something else, which case you could do something else, uh, that's going to be safer. uh, that's going to be safer. uh, that's going to be safer. &gt;&gt; Hard, &gt;&gt; Hard, &gt;&gt; Hard, &gt;&gt; uh, and you're not, you've lost the &gt;&gt; uh, and you're not, you've lost the &gt;&gt; uh, and you're not, you've lost the hypertrophy benefit. Now, I know what hypertrophy benefit. Now, I know what hypertrophy benefit. Now, I know what the studies show that high reps, taking the studies show that high reps, taking the studies show that high reps, taking a failure, uh, will build hypertrophy a failure, uh, will build hypertrophy a failure, uh, will build hypertrophy like lower reps, which is true, but like lower reps, which is true, but like lower reps, which is true, but there's a caveat there. Um, there's a caveat there. Um, there's a caveat there. Um, cardiovascular uh, when cardiovascular cardiovascular uh, when cardiovascular cardiovascular uh, when cardiovascular endurance uh, becomes the limiting endurance uh, becomes the limiting endurance uh, becomes the limiting factor, which it does when you're going factor, which it does when you're going factor, which it does when you're going 40, 50 reps, it's no longer hypertrophy, 40, 50 reps, it's no longer hypertrophy, 40, 50 reps, it's no longer hypertrophy, it's just stamina. So, if that's what it's just stamina. So, if that's what it's just stamina. So, if that's what you want, you want lots of stamina, you want, you want lots of stamina, you want, you want lots of stamina, there's better ways to do it, if you there's better ways to do it, if you there's better ways to do it, if you want to build muscle, uh you probably want to build muscle, uh you probably want to build muscle, uh you probably are better off keeping the reps uh below are better off keeping the reps uh below are better off keeping the reps uh below 30, I would say, is probably the limit. 30, I would say, is probably the limit. 30, I would say, is probably the limit. &gt;&gt; I think I think that to to close the &gt;&gt; I think I think that to to close the &gt;&gt; I think I think that to to close the loop on this, cuz again, you we always loop on this, cuz again, you we always loop on this, cuz again, you we always get like a knee-jerk reaction when we get like a knee-jerk reaction when we get like a knee-jerk reaction when we when we hammer because there's always when we hammer because there's always when we hammer because there's always guilt that comes with that. Somebody who guilt that comes with that. Somebody who guilt that comes with that. Somebody who was doing that in their workout today, was doing that in their workout today, was doing that in their workout today, right, as somebody's listening right now right, as somebody's listening right now right, as somebody's listening right now doing jump boxes, doing jump boxes, doing jump boxes, &gt;&gt; especially trainers like what? &gt;&gt; especially trainers like what? &gt;&gt; especially trainers like what? &gt;&gt; Right. Right. Especially trainers who &gt;&gt; Right. Right. Especially trainers who &gt;&gt; Right. Right. Especially trainers who have clients that listen to the podcast. have clients that listen to the podcast. have clients that listen to the podcast. Oh, yeah. They're just like, you know, Oh, yeah. They're just like, you know, Oh, yeah. They're just like, you know, yesterday they told me this [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] yesterday they told me this [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] yesterday they told me this [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] You have me dead. You have me dead. You have me dead. &gt;&gt; You said this is stupid. &gt;&gt; You said this is stupid. &gt;&gt; You said this is stupid. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. So, all listen, all of them, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. So, all listen, all of them, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. So, all listen, all of them, all of them are tools. Uh the problem is all of them are tools. Uh the problem is all of them are tools. Uh the problem is that that that &gt;&gt; most people are using these tools for &gt;&gt; most people are using these tools for &gt;&gt; most people are using these tools for the wrong job. the wrong job. the wrong job. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. &gt;&gt; And so, &gt;&gt; And so, &gt;&gt; And so, &gt;&gt; it's like hammering nails in with a &gt;&gt; it's like hammering nails in with a &gt;&gt; it's like hammering nails in with a screwdriver. screwdriver. screwdriver. &gt;&gt; That's right. So, it's it's not that I &gt;&gt; That's right. So, it's it's not that I &gt;&gt; That's right. So, it's it's not that I can't make a case for doing all of these can't make a case for doing all of these can't make a case for doing all of these somewhere. I can make a case for that. somewhere. I can make a case for that. somewhere. I can make a case for that. So can I. So can I. So can I. &gt;&gt; Um it's just that most people that come &gt;&gt; Um it's just that most people that come &gt;&gt; Um it's just that most people that come hire a trainer or go to the gym, work hire a trainer or go to the gym, work hire a trainer or go to the gym, work out, 90% of them are like body out, 90% of them are like body out, 90% of them are like body composition change or they want to get composition change or they want to get composition change or they want to get strength or like name the top three strength or like name the top three strength or like name the top three goals. goals. goals. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And most of these don't align with that. &gt;&gt; And most of these don't align with that. &gt;&gt; And most of these don't align with that. &gt;&gt; Doesn't match with it. &gt;&gt; Doesn't match with it. &gt;&gt; Doesn't match with it. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And so you're you're using a &gt;&gt; Yeah. And so you're you're using a &gt;&gt; Yeah. And so you're you're using a terrible tool for the job. Um and then terrible tool for the job. Um and then terrible tool for the job. Um and then and and try and Oh, you know what you and and try and Oh, you know what you and and try and Oh, you know what you didn't put in here that I would add to didn't put in here that I would add to didn't put in here that I would add to this list 100%. I can't believe you this list 100%. I can't believe you this list 100%. I can't believe you didn't make the list. Burpees. didn't make the list. Burpees. didn't make the list. Burpees. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, that's right there. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, that's right there. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, that's right there. How? How did burpees not? How? How did burpees not? How? How did burpees not? &gt;&gt; It's like a mix between jump box and &gt;&gt; It's like a mix between jump box and &gt;&gt; It's like a mix between jump box and renegade. renegade. renegade. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I was going to say, [laughter] but &gt;&gt; Yeah, I was going to say, [laughter] but &gt;&gt; Yeah, I was going to say, [laughter] but that burpees should have made this. that burpees should have made this. that burpees should have made this. &gt;&gt; It's a great way to get tired. &gt;&gt; It's a great way to get tired. &gt;&gt; It's a great way to get tired. &gt;&gt; Should have made this list cuz you see &gt;&gt; Should have made this list cuz you see &gt;&gt; Should have made this list cuz you see those still all the time. those still all the time. those still all the time. &gt;&gt; Have you ever seen &gt;&gt; Have you ever seen &gt;&gt; Have you ever seen &gt;&gt; that's the the you're punished and you &gt;&gt; that's the the you're punished and you &gt;&gt; that's the the you're punished and you go do burp. go do burp. go do burp. &gt;&gt; Have you ever seen the prison? There's &gt;&gt; Have you ever seen the prison? There's &gt;&gt; Have you ever seen the prison? There's some dudes on social media that that some dudes on social media that that some dudes on social media that that have these workouts that they did in have these workouts that they did in have these workouts that they did in prison. Yes. And they always involve prison. Yes. And they always involve prison. Yes. And they always involve like uh push-ups and burpees and they like uh push-ups and burpees and they like uh push-ups and burpees and they have this specific technique. There was have this specific technique. There was have this specific technique. There was this one dude I was watching. I mean, this one dude I was watching. I mean, this one dude I was watching. I mean, he's straight up. I mean, you could see he's straight up. I mean, you could see he's straight up. I mean, you could see this guy's got he's [snorts] got his this guy's got he's [snorts] got his this guy's got he's [snorts] got his dickies on. and he's tatted and he's dickies on. and he's tatted and he's dickies on. and he's tatted and he's doing these burpees and these push-ups doing these burpees and these push-ups doing these burpees and these push-ups and it's like he's breathing. You could and it's like he's breathing. You could and it's like he's breathing. You could tell he's done these. He must have been tell he's done these. He must have been tell he's done these. He must have been locked up for a long time. Forever. locked up for a long time. Forever. locked up for a long time. Forever. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] &gt;&gt; That's Wes Watson, &gt;&gt; That's Wes Watson, &gt;&gt; That's Wes Watson, &gt;&gt; bro. He's just &gt;&gt; bro. He's just &gt;&gt; bro. He's just &gt;&gt; That's who that is. &gt;&gt; That's who that is. &gt;&gt; That's who that is. &gt;&gt; He's going through like I'm watching TV &gt;&gt; He's going through like I'm watching TV &gt;&gt; He's going through like I'm watching TV and I'm like that's impressive, bro. and I'm like that's impressive, bro. and I'm like that's impressive, bro. This guy's really good. This guy's really good. This guy's really good. &gt;&gt; Oh, no. That's his He has a That's uh &gt;&gt; Oh, no. That's his He has a That's uh &gt;&gt; Oh, no. That's his He has a That's uh That's the W I I think he's going to That's the W I I think he's going to That's the W I I think he's going to jail right now. He's got two big jail right now. He's got two big jail right now. He's got two big &gt;&gt; He's going back to jail. &gt;&gt; He's going back to jail. &gt;&gt; He's going back to jail. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got two big cases &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got two big cases &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's got two big cases [laughter] on his car getting Oh no. [laughter] on his car getting Oh no. [laughter] on his car getting Oh no. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. my butt. I I I peek in on &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. my butt. I I I peek in on &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. my butt. I I I peek in on him every once in a while because I had him every once in a while because I had him every once in a while because I had a I had a close friend of mine who was a I had a close friend of mine who was a I had a close friend of mine who was like super into all his stuff and was like super into all his stuff and was like super into all his stuff and was like swore by his his content. I'm like, like swore by his his content. I'm like, like swore by his his content. I'm like, "Bro, this is a grifter, dude. Don't "Bro, this is a grifter, dude. Don't "Bro, this is a grifter, dude. Don't fall for all this stuff." And like and fall for all this stuff." And like and fall for all this stuff." And like and so I would check in every once in a so I would check in every once in a so I would check in every once in a while. I'd send him stuff like listen. while. I'd send him stuff like listen. while. I'd send him stuff like listen. And I try to convince him. He finally And I try to convince him. He finally And I try to convince him. He finally came around and realized that he was came around and realized that he was came around and realized that he was just a big froster. But what he just a big froster. But what he just a big froster. But what he impressive is if you watch him do his impressive is if you watch him do his impressive is if you watch him do his his his burpee workouts. I mean, the his his burpee workouts. I mean, the his his burpee workouts. I mean, the guy's definitely worked out a lot. guy's definitely worked out a lot. guy's definitely worked out a lot. [laughter] Listen, [laughter] Listen, [laughter] Listen, &gt;&gt; I did a lot of burp. &gt;&gt; I did a lot of burp. &gt;&gt; I did a lot of burp. &gt;&gt; If I had nothing better to do, might be &gt;&gt; If I had nothing better to do, might be &gt;&gt; If I had nothing better to do, might be an expert on burpees, too, dude. an expert on burpees, too, dude. an expert on burpees, too, dude. &gt;&gt; For real. &gt;&gt; For real. &gt;&gt; For real. &gt;&gt; Anyway, I was um so you guys have I &gt;&gt; Anyway, I was um so you guys have I &gt;&gt; Anyway, I was um so you guys have I noticed you guys have been using a lot noticed you guys have been using a lot noticed you guys have been using a lot of the key ketone IQ now. Okay. of the key ketone IQ now. Okay. of the key ketone IQ now. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Love the way it makes me feel. And I I &gt;&gt; Love the way it makes me feel. And I I &gt;&gt; Love the way it makes me feel. And I I brought up uh some of the science as to brought up uh some of the science as to brought up uh some of the science as to how it's exactly working. So, uh ketone how it's exactly working. So, uh ketone how it's exactly working. So, uh ketone IQ is exogenous ketones. Okay. So, IQ is exogenous ketones. Okay. So, IQ is exogenous ketones. Okay. So, &gt;&gt; you take a supplement and instantly you &gt;&gt; you take a supplement and instantly you &gt;&gt; you take a supplement and instantly you have ketones that cross the blood brain have ketones that cross the blood brain have ketones that cross the blood brain barrier and now your brain is operating barrier and now your brain is operating barrier and now your brain is operating off of ketones. This is what happens off of ketones. This is what happens off of ketones. This is what happens when you're a ketogenic diet. So, when when you're a ketogenic diet. So, when when you're a ketogenic diet. So, when people cut carbs completely, sometimes people cut carbs completely, sometimes people cut carbs completely, sometimes what you'll hear or often times what you what you'll hear or often times what you what you'll hear or often times what you hear is people say, "Man, I've got so hear is people say, "Man, I've got so hear is people say, "Man, I've got so much mental clarity. Like, what's going much mental clarity. Like, what's going much mental clarity. Like, what's going on?" on?" on?" &gt;&gt; It's just sharper. &gt;&gt; It's just sharper. &gt;&gt; It's just sharper. &gt;&gt; Okay, so here's why it's so why it &gt;&gt; Okay, so here's why it's so why it &gt;&gt; Okay, so here's why it's so why it produces this. First off, unlike glucose produces this. First off, unlike glucose produces this. First off, unlike glucose metabolism, uh ketone utilization metabolism, uh ketone utilization metabolism, uh ketone utilization requires no insulin. So, no insulin is requires no insulin. So, no insulin is requires no insulin. So, no insulin is required to get this to uh give you required to get this to uh give you required to get this to uh give you energy. It leads to steady ATP uh energy. It leads to steady ATP uh energy. It leads to steady ATP uh productions. By the way, when you take productions. By the way, when you take productions. By the way, when you take Ketone IQ, within 30 60 minutes, you've Ketone IQ, within 30 60 minutes, you've Ketone IQ, within 30 60 minutes, you've got uh the ketones going to the brain. got uh the ketones going to the brain. got uh the ketones going to the brain. It improves mitochondrial efficiency. It It improves mitochondrial efficiency. It It improves mitochondrial efficiency. It boosts ATP output while lowering boosts ATP output while lowering boosts ATP output while lowering reactive oxygen species. In other words, reactive oxygen species. In other words, reactive oxygen species. In other words, it's like this really clean, efficient it's like this really clean, efficient it's like this really clean, efficient source of energy. They also upregulates source of energy. They also upregulates source of energy. They also upregulates BDNF. You guys remember BDNF? Brain BDNF. You guys remember BDNF? Brain BDNF. You guys remember BDNF? Brain derived neurotropic factor. derived neurotropic factor. derived neurotropic factor. &gt;&gt; They call this uh like miracle miracle &gt;&gt; They call this uh like miracle miracle &gt;&gt; They call this uh like miracle miracle growth for the brain. Mhm. growth for the brain. Mhm. growth for the brain. Mhm. &gt;&gt; Um, and then it's got anti-inflammatory &gt;&gt; Um, and then it's got anti-inflammatory &gt;&gt; Um, and then it's got anti-inflammatory and neuro protective effects, so it it and neuro protective effects, so it it and neuro protective effects, so it it downregulates certain inflammatory downregulates certain inflammatory downregulates certain inflammatory pathways. So, that's just a lot of the pathways. So, that's just a lot of the pathways. So, that's just a lot of the science as to why like when people take science as to why like when people take science as to why like when people take uh exogenous ketones like ketone IQ uh exogenous ketones like ketone IQ uh exogenous ketones like ketone IQ &gt;&gt; and they're like, it feels like the &gt;&gt; and they're like, it feels like the &gt;&gt; and they're like, it feels like the lights were turned on. Like, why do I lights were turned on. Like, why do I lights were turned on. Like, why do I feel so sharp? It's not a stimulant like feel so sharp? It's not a stimulant like feel so sharp? It's not a stimulant like caffeine. You can take it before bed. caffeine. You can take it before bed. caffeine. You can take it before bed. Uh, but that's what's happening. Uh, but that's what's happening. Uh, but that's what's happening. &gt;&gt; It's such a hack cuz yeah, that you'd &gt;&gt; It's such a hack cuz yeah, that you'd &gt;&gt; It's such a hack cuz yeah, that you'd have to like Yeah. really restrict have to like Yeah. really restrict have to like Yeah. really restrict eating and to get in that ketogenic eating and to get in that ketogenic eating and to get in that ketogenic state where you feel those effects and state where you feel those effects and state where you feel those effects and it's like man to just be able to take it's like man to just be able to take it's like man to just be able to take that exogenous. that exogenous. that exogenous. &gt;&gt; I love it. You really have it's one of &gt;&gt; I love it. You really have it's one of &gt;&gt; I love it. You really have it's one of those supplements that you really have those supplements that you really have those supplements that you really have to try for yourself cuz trying to to try for yourself cuz trying to to try for yourself cuz trying to explain it to somebody is difficult. explain it to somebody is difficult. explain it to somebody is difficult. &gt;&gt; It is &gt;&gt; It is &gt;&gt; It is &gt;&gt; cuz it's not caffeine. It's not like &gt;&gt; cuz it's not caffeine. It's not like &gt;&gt; cuz it's not caffeine. It's not like that but you do get this energy clear that but you do get this energy clear that but you do get this energy clear feeling that you get which is similar to feeling that you get which is similar to feeling that you get which is similar to kind of like caffeine like but you don't kind of like caffeine like but you don't kind of like caffeine like but you don't get you know what I noticed the most any get you know what I noticed the most any get you know what I noticed the most any fog is gone. That's it. I noticed the fog is gone. That's it. I noticed the fog is gone. That's it. I noticed the most is I uh I can recall uh what I want most is I uh I can recall uh what I want most is I uh I can recall uh what I want to say sharp and quick. to say sharp and quick. to say sharp and quick. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like I feel sharp and quick is how I &gt;&gt; Like I feel sharp and quick is how I &gt;&gt; Like I feel sharp and quick is how I feel. feel. feel. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I feel like anybody who who takes &gt;&gt; Yeah. I feel like anybody who who takes &gt;&gt; Yeah. I feel like anybody who who takes it can feel it. It's one of the it's a it can feel it. It's one of the it's a it can feel it. It's one of the it's a supplement that you don't need like you supplement that you don't need like you supplement that you don't need like you you can take it. There's a lot of you can take it. There's a lot of you can take it. There's a lot of supplements that we take that we know supplements that we take that we know supplements that we take that we know are good for us. For example, like I are good for us. For example, like I are good for us. For example, like I know I need vitamin D. I have results know I need vitamin D. I have results know I need vitamin D. I have results that show it. that show it. that show it. &gt;&gt; You don't notice until vitamin D is real &gt;&gt; You don't notice until vitamin D is real &gt;&gt; You don't notice until vitamin D is real low. low. low. &gt;&gt; That's right. Like exactly. You have to &gt;&gt; That's right. Like exactly. You have to &gt;&gt; That's right. Like exactly. You have to be really deficient to notice. Uh, it's be really deficient to notice. Uh, it's be really deficient to notice. Uh, it's not like one of those things you take it not like one of those things you take it not like one of those things you take it and you're like, "Oh, yeah. I feel and you're like, "Oh, yeah. I feel and you're like, "Oh, yeah. I feel that." that." that." &gt;&gt; Oh, you'll feel this. &gt;&gt; Oh, you'll feel this. &gt;&gt; Oh, you'll feel this. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You You actually feel it when you &gt;&gt; Yeah. You You actually feel it when you &gt;&gt; Yeah. You You actually feel it when you use it. use it. use it. &gt;&gt; Speaking of feeling things to do, I made &gt;&gt; Speaking of feeling things to do, I made &gt;&gt; Speaking of feeling things to do, I made a huge just a bad husband mistake. Oh, a huge just a bad husband mistake. Oh, a huge just a bad husband mistake. Oh, boy. boy. boy. &gt;&gt; Just a bad, you know, I'm supposed to be &gt;&gt; Just a bad, you know, I'm supposed to be &gt;&gt; Just a bad, you know, I'm supposed to be I'm supposed to be like the leader of my I'm supposed to be like the leader of my I'm supposed to be like the leader of my family. I'm supposed to protect my wife. family. I'm supposed to protect my wife. family. I'm supposed to protect my wife. &gt;&gt; Confessions. &gt;&gt; Confessions. &gt;&gt; Confessions. &gt;&gt; And I just did such a bad job. So, &gt;&gt; And I just did such a bad job. So, &gt;&gt; And I just did such a bad job. So, there's a movie out called Obsession. there's a movie out called Obsession. there's a movie out called Obsession. &gt;&gt; Oh, you went and saw that? &gt;&gt; Oh, you went and saw that? &gt;&gt; Oh, you went and saw that? &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. So, &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. So, &gt;&gt; Yeah, dude. So, &gt;&gt; you were talking about going to see that &gt;&gt; you were talking about going to see that &gt;&gt; you were talking about going to see that the other So, I I I I did a I saw a the other So, I I I I did a I saw a the other So, I I I I did a I saw a trailer and I saw the reviews. First of trailer and I saw the reviews. First of trailer and I saw the reviews. First of all, 94% Rotten Tomatoes. Like, how all, 94% Rotten Tomatoes. Like, how all, 94% Rotten Tomatoes. Like, how often do you see often do you see often do you see &gt;&gt; I heard really good things about it. &gt;&gt; I heard really good things about it. &gt;&gt; I heard really good things about it. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, super high rated. And I &gt;&gt; Okay. So, super high rated. And I &gt;&gt; Okay. So, super high rated. And I watched the trailer. watched the trailer. watched the trailer. &gt;&gt; Traumatizing though. &gt;&gt; Traumatizing though. &gt;&gt; Traumatizing though. &gt;&gt; And I watched the trailer and first of &gt;&gt; And I watched the trailer and first of &gt;&gt; And I watched the trailer and first of all, I read about it. It's a super all, I read about it. It's a super all, I read about it. It's a super lowbudget lowbudget lowbudget &gt;&gt; horror/ &gt;&gt; horror/ &gt;&gt; horror/ suspense movie. Okay. Low low budget. suspense movie. Okay. Low low budget. suspense movie. Okay. Low low budget. So, it's a million dollars to make. It's So, it's a million dollars to make. It's So, it's a million dollars to make. It's already grossed over $250 million. It's already grossed over $250 million. It's already grossed over $250 million. It's like one of the craziest like one of the craziest like one of the craziest &gt;&gt; Yeah. most profitable movies of all &gt;&gt; Yeah. most profitable movies of all &gt;&gt; Yeah. most profitable movies of all time. time. time. &gt;&gt; No, no, no. &gt;&gt; No, no, no. &gt;&gt; No, no, no. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; No. No. No. No. No. No. No. NO. DON'T DO &gt;&gt; No. No. No. No. No. No. No. NO. DON'T DO &gt;&gt; No. No. No. No. No. No. No. NO. DON'T DO THAT. THAT. THAT. &gt;&gt; I thought we were having a nice day. &gt;&gt; I thought we were having a nice day. &gt;&gt; I thought we were having a nice day. &gt;&gt; We are. We are. &gt;&gt; We are. We are. &gt;&gt; We are. We are. &gt;&gt; Why does it matter? I thought we were &gt;&gt; Why does it matter? I thought we were &gt;&gt; Why does it matter? I thought we were having a nice day. having a nice day. having a nice day. &gt;&gt; We are. We are. We are. &gt;&gt; We are. We are. We are. &gt;&gt; We are. We are. We are. &gt;&gt; It's okay. Now I I see the trailer and &gt;&gt; It's okay. Now I I see the trailer and &gt;&gt; It's okay. Now I I see the trailer and I'm like, "Oh, this looks like it's very I'm like, "Oh, this looks like it's very I'm like, "Oh, this looks like it's very suspenseful and it's low budget, which suspenseful and it's low budget, which suspenseful and it's low budget, which means it's probably not hyper gory, means it's probably not hyper gory, means it's probably not hyper gory, hyper it's probably like more of the hyper it's probably like more of the hyper it's probably like more of the kind of mental like you know those kind kind of mental like you know those kind kind of mental like you know those kind of scary movies that you're like, "Oh of scary movies that you're like, "Oh of scary movies that you're like, "Oh man, this is really man, this is really man, this is really &gt;&gt; psychological thriller." &gt;&gt; psychological thriller." &gt;&gt; psychological thriller." &gt;&gt; It is that, but it's also way worse. So &gt;&gt; It is that, but it's also way worse. So &gt;&gt; It is that, but it's also way worse. So I take my wife who's very sensitive to I take my wife who's very sensitive to I take my wife who's very sensitive to scary movies and I I'm like, "Listen, I scary movies and I I'm like, "Listen, I scary movies and I I'm like, "Listen, I really want to watch this movie. It got really want to watch this movie. It got really want to watch this movie. It got high reviews. Uh, I think it's more high reviews. Uh, I think it's more high reviews. Uh, I think it's more suspense than anything. And so my poor suspense than anything. And so my poor suspense than anything. And so my poor wife trusts me [laughter] and she's wife trusts me [laughter] and she's wife trusts me [laughter] and she's like, "Let's go watch it." And dude, let like, "Let's go watch it." And dude, let like, "Let's go watch it." And dude, let me tell you, me tell you, me tell you, &gt;&gt; this movie, oh my I mean it was, if you &gt;&gt; this movie, oh my I mean it was, if you &gt;&gt; this movie, oh my I mean it was, if you like scary movies, it's one of the best like scary movies, it's one of the best like scary movies, it's one of the best ones I've ever seen. ones I've ever seen. ones I've ever seen. &gt;&gt; Really? &gt;&gt; Really? &gt;&gt; Really? &gt;&gt; It Yes, dude. It's one of the best ones &gt;&gt; It Yes, dude. It's one of the best ones &gt;&gt; It Yes, dude. It's one of the best ones I've ever seen. I've ever seen. I've ever seen. &gt;&gt; It It'll get you, bro. It's one of those &gt;&gt; It It'll get you, bro. It's one of those &gt;&gt; It It'll get you, bro. It's one of those ones that you're done and you walk out ones that you're done and you walk out ones that you're done and you walk out the theater, you're not talking for like the theater, you're not talking for like the theater, you're not talking for like 30 minutes. 30 minutes. 30 minutes. &gt;&gt; Nobody's talking, &gt;&gt; Nobody's talking, &gt;&gt; Nobody's talking, &gt;&gt; bro. It was &gt;&gt; bro. It was &gt;&gt; bro. It was &gt;&gt; Were you worried about how you're going &gt;&gt; Were you worried about how you're going &gt;&gt; Were you worried about how you're going to sleep? to sleep? to sleep? &gt;&gt; I don't I can watch a movie like that. &gt;&gt; I don't I can watch a movie like that. &gt;&gt; I don't I can watch a movie like that. Fall right asleep. My wife was affected. Fall right asleep. My wife was affected. Fall right asleep. My wife was affected. Like really affected, dude. Like I could Like really affected, dude. Like I could Like really affected, dude. Like I could see it in her face five times while see it in her face five times while see it in her face five times while we're watching it. I I rub her leg we're watching it. I I rub her leg we're watching it. I I rub her leg stuff's happening. stuff's happening. stuff's happening. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And I'm like, "Oh, this is this is not &gt;&gt; And I'm like, "Oh, this is this is not &gt;&gt; And I'm like, "Oh, this is this is not good, dude." I look at her. good, dude." I look at her. good, dude." I look at her. &gt;&gt; So without giving it away, but it wasn't &gt;&gt; So without giving it away, but it wasn't &gt;&gt; So without giving it away, but it wasn't like jump scare stuff. It was just like like jump scare stuff. It was just like like jump scare stuff. It was just like &gt;&gt; No, there's jump scare, too. &gt;&gt; No, there's jump scare, too. &gt;&gt; No, there's jump scare, too. &gt;&gt; I don't like torment, &gt;&gt; I don't like torment, &gt;&gt; I don't like torment, &gt;&gt; but it's so well made. It's like I'll &gt;&gt; but it's so well made. It's like I'll &gt;&gt; but it's so well made. It's like I'll give you the premise cuz this is give you the premise cuz this is give you the premise cuz this is &gt;&gt; So I I read I was curious about it &gt;&gt; So I I read I was curious about it &gt;&gt; So I I read I was curious about it because there's a show that I did get because there's a show that I did get because there's a show that I did get into for a while. Although after a few into for a while. Although after a few into for a while. Although after a few seasons it was it got repetitive like seasons it was it got repetitive like seasons it was it got repetitive like most shows do and it's like okay same most shows do and it's like okay same most shows do and it's like okay same same trick, right? So I'm over it. But same trick, right? So I'm over it. But same trick, right? So I'm over it. But the first two seasons I really loved and the first two seasons I really loved and the first two seasons I really loved and Katrina and I got into it. Did you ever Katrina and I got into it. Did you ever Katrina and I got into it. Did you ever watch you? watch you? watch you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Okay. So when I read about it, &gt;&gt; Okay. So when I read about it, &gt;&gt; Okay. So when I read about it, &gt;&gt; yeah, we liked it. &gt;&gt; yeah, we liked it. &gt;&gt; yeah, we liked it. &gt;&gt; It read kind of like that. It read kind &gt;&gt; It read kind of like that. It read kind &gt;&gt; It read kind of like that. It read kind of like this like and it really gets of like this like and it really gets of like this like and it really gets your brain going like, "Oh my god, your brain going like, "Oh my god, your brain going like, "Oh my god, people can get like people can get like people can get like &gt;&gt; No, bro. This this will twist your &gt;&gt; No, bro. This this will twist your &gt;&gt; No, bro. This this will twist your psychological Yeah, this will twist you psychological Yeah, this will twist you psychological Yeah, this will twist you hard." hard." hard." &gt;&gt; And it does. There is gore in there, but &gt;&gt; And it does. There is gore in there, but &gt;&gt; And it does. There is gore in there, but they use it the right, you know, when they use it the right, you know, when they use it the right, you know, when they use gore the right way where it's they use gore the right way where it's they use gore the right way where it's shocking. Okay. shocking. Okay. shocking. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So, here's the premise because it's not &gt;&gt; So, here's the premise because it's not &gt;&gt; So, here's the premise because it's not going to ruin the movie. going to ruin the movie. going to ruin the movie. &gt;&gt; This dude has he's got a crush on this &gt;&gt; This dude has he's got a crush on this &gt;&gt; This dude has he's got a crush on this girl. He goes to one of these like, you girl. He goes to one of these like, you girl. He goes to one of these like, you know, like spiritual stores and there's know, like spiritual stores and there's know, like spiritual stores and there's this thing that there's like this one this thing that there's like this one this thing that there's like this one wish something that you can get. You wish something that you can get. You wish something that you can get. You make a wish and it comes true. So, he make a wish and it comes true. So, he make a wish and it comes true. So, he wishes that this girl will love him more wishes that this girl will love him more wishes that this girl will love him more than anyone in the world. So, she than anyone in the world. So, she than anyone in the world. So, she becomes obsessed with him. And that's becomes obsessed with him. And that's becomes obsessed with him. And that's all I'm going to tell you, [laughter] all I'm going to tell you, [laughter] all I'm going to tell you, [laughter] bro. It's, bro. And the way it ended. bro. It's, bro. And the way it ended. bro. It's, bro. And the way it ended. OH. [groaning] OH MY GOD, DUDE. It was OH. [groaning] OH MY GOD, DUDE. It was OH. [groaning] OH MY GOD, DUDE. It was bad, dude. And I'm telling you, I'm bad, dude. And I'm telling you, I'm bad, dude. And I'm telling you, I'm looking at my wife. looking at my wife. looking at my wife. &gt;&gt; See, that sounds kind of like you cuz &gt;&gt; See, that sounds kind of like you cuz &gt;&gt; See, that sounds kind of like you cuz that's what the premise of you is. Is that's what the premise of you is. Is that's what the premise of you is. Is this guy this guy this guy &gt;&gt; he something happens. He locks eyes. You &gt;&gt; he something happens. He locks eyes. You &gt;&gt; he something happens. He locks eyes. You can't watch this. can't watch this. can't watch this. &gt;&gt; And he becomes obsessed. &gt;&gt; And he becomes obsessed. &gt;&gt; And he becomes obsessed. &gt;&gt; I know you're sensitive. It will ruin &gt;&gt; I know you're sensitive. It will ruin &gt;&gt; I know you're sensitive. It will ruin you. you. you. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you already said &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you already said &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you already said Gore and Jumpy is I that I don't like Gore and Jumpy is I that I don't like Gore and Jumpy is I that I don't like that, that, that, &gt;&gt; dude. I I I kept looking. &gt;&gt; dude. I I I kept looking. &gt;&gt; dude. I I I kept looking. &gt;&gt; I like a good story. &gt;&gt; I like a good story. &gt;&gt; I like a good story. &gt;&gt; I kept looking at her and going, "Let's &gt;&gt; I kept looking at her and going, "Let's &gt;&gt; I kept looking at her and going, "Let's go, honey. Let's go." She was like, "No, go, honey. Let's go." She was like, "No, go, honey. Let's go." She was like, "No, no, no. We have." And then at one point, no, no. We have." And then at one point, no, no. We have." And then at one point, it got real bad. I'm like I'm like, "No, it got real bad. I'm like I'm like, "No, it got real bad. I'm like I'm like, "No, we're leaving right now." She's like, "I we're leaving right now." She's like, "I we're leaving right now." She's like, "I have to finish it now." I'm like, "Oh, have to finish it now." I'm like, "Oh, have to finish it now." I'm like, "Oh, man. She's sucked in. Poor kid. She's man. She's sucked in. Poor kid. She's man. She's sucked in. Poor kid. She's [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] &gt;&gt; gotta ride it out, dude." &gt;&gt; gotta ride it out, dude." &gt;&gt; gotta ride it out, dude." &gt;&gt; Dude. And then we we come out and then, &gt;&gt; Dude. And then we we come out and then, &gt;&gt; Dude. And then we we come out and then, you know, she goes to the bathroom and I you know, she goes to the bathroom and I you know, she goes to the bathroom and I guess some some of the some women that guess some some of the some women that guess some some of the some women that had watched it went to the bathroom and had watched it went to the bathroom and had watched it went to the bathroom and they were all talking about it and they were all talking about it and they were all talking about it and they're like, "I I I was too scared to they're like, "I I I was too scared to they're like, "I I I was too scared to scream. I want to scream, but [laughter] scream. I want to scream, but [laughter] scream. I want to scream, but [laughter] scream, bro. Too scared." scream, bro. Too scared." scream, bro. Too scared." &gt;&gt; Listen, you got to watch it, Dustin. I &gt;&gt; Listen, you got to watch it, Dustin. I &gt;&gt; Listen, you got to watch it, Dustin. I know you will. I appreciate it. know you will. I appreciate it. know you will. I appreciate it. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. That is going to be a classic. &gt;&gt; Wow. That is going to be a classic. &gt;&gt; Wow. That is going to be a classic. Okay. Yeah, dude. Wow, Okay. Yeah, dude. Wow, Okay. Yeah, dude. Wow, &gt;&gt; it was horrible. [laughter] &gt;&gt; it was horrible. [laughter] &gt;&gt; it was horrible. [laughter] &gt;&gt; Did it just Did it just come out? Has it &gt;&gt; Did it just Did it just come out? Has it &gt;&gt; Did it just Did it just come out? Has it been out long? been out long? been out long? &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's been out for a little while. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's been out for a little while. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's been out for a little while. I could see how much it's grossing right I could see how much it's grossing right I could see how much it's grossing right now. now. now. &gt;&gt; I know you said that, but I hadn't even &gt;&gt; I know you said that, but I hadn't even &gt;&gt; I know you said that, but I hadn't even really seen any previews or anything for really seen any previews or anything for really seen any previews or anything for it. I don't think I saw a preview for it. I don't think I saw a preview for it. I don't think I saw a preview for &gt;&gt; I'm so [laughter] disappointed. &gt;&gt; I'm so [laughter] disappointed. &gt;&gt; I'm so [laughter] disappointed. Mandalorian, dude. Mandalorian, dude. Mandalorian, dude. &gt;&gt; That was stupid. &gt;&gt; That was stupid. &gt;&gt; That was stupid. &gt;&gt; Terrible. Terrible. That was dumb. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Terrible. Terrible. That was dumb. Yeah, &gt;&gt; Terrible. Terrible. That was dumb. Yeah, you know, that's going on record. No you know, that's going on record. No you know, that's going on record. No story. The story was story. The story was story. The story was &gt;&gt; I I hate that part. They they they do &gt;&gt; I I hate that part. They they they do &gt;&gt; I I hate that part. They they they do that, man. Where they take advantage of that, man. Where they take advantage of that, man. Where they take advantage of that a cult following thing like that, that a cult following thing like that, that a cult following thing like that, just milk it dry. just milk it dry. just milk it dry. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, no, no creativity in it or no &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, no, no creativity in it or no &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, no, no creativity in it or no no new anything. It's just that, oh, we no new anything. It's just that, oh, we no new anything. It's just that, oh, we know there's built-in audience. know there's built-in audience. know there's built-in audience. &gt;&gt; Well, yeah. It also annoys me that they &gt;&gt; Well, yeah. It also annoys me that they &gt;&gt; Well, yeah. It also annoys me that they tie in a lot of like cartoon uh content tie in a lot of like cartoon uh content tie in a lot of like cartoon uh content that they put out before and you're that they put out before and you're that they put out before and you're supposed to like already know about all supposed to like already know about all supposed to like already know about all these like characters that have been in these like characters that have been in these like characters that have been in these other, you know, stories and and these other, you know, stories and and these other, you know, stories and and and two, it's just like and two, it's just like and two, it's just like &gt;&gt; for me it was just so weak cuz like you &gt;&gt; for me it was just so weak cuz like you &gt;&gt; for me it was just so weak cuz like you have this opportunity to to make a big have this opportunity to to make a big have this opportunity to to make a big movie. Yeah. you know, and you make it movie. Yeah. you know, and you make it movie. Yeah. you know, and you make it like a tiny oneoff episode, but you just like a tiny oneoff episode, but you just like a tiny oneoff episode, but you just expand on it and it's like expand on it and it's like expand on it and it's like &gt;&gt; I'll give you oneame I'll give you one &gt;&gt; I'll give you oneame I'll give you one &gt;&gt; I'll give you oneame I'll give you one scene from the movie. It doesn't give it scene from the movie. It doesn't give it scene from the movie. It doesn't give it away. One scene where it's like she's away. One scene where it's like she's away. One scene where it's like she's living with him at this point, right? living with him at this point, right? living with him at this point, right? Cuz she's obsessed with him or whatever. Cuz she's obsessed with him or whatever. Cuz she's obsessed with him or whatever. &gt;&gt; And she's acting erratic and weird in &gt;&gt; And she's acting erratic and weird in &gt;&gt; And she's acting erratic and weird in very creepy ways. And so he's like, "Hey very creepy ways. And so he's like, "Hey very creepy ways. And so he's like, "Hey honey, you know, I'm going to go to honey, you know, I'm going to go to honey, you know, I'm going to go to work." And she's like, "Okay, you know, work." And she's like, "Okay, you know, work." And she's like, "Okay, you know, you can go to work and I'll I'll just you can go to work and I'll I'll just you can go to work and I'll I'll just wait for you." So, she stands by the wait for you." So, she stands by the wait for you." So, she stands by the door, which which there's more to it, door, which which there's more to it, door, which which there's more to it, but he goes and he leaves and she's but he goes and he leaves and she's but he goes and he leaves and she's standing there looking at him smiling standing there looking at him smiling standing there looking at him smiling and not moving. And he closes the door and not moving. And he closes the door and not moving. And he closes the door and then he comes home from work, bro. and then he comes home from work, bro. and then he comes home from work, bro. &gt;&gt; She's still standing there. &gt;&gt; She's still standing there. &gt;&gt; She's still standing there. &gt;&gt; She's still standing there. She's soiled &gt;&gt; She's still standing there. She's soiled &gt;&gt; She's still standing there. She's soiled herself. She's peed herself. She's herself. She's peed herself. She's herself. She's peed herself. She's [laughter] like vomited. And she's like, [laughter] like vomited. And she's like, [laughter] like vomited. And she's like, "Oh, you're home. I've been waiting for "Oh, you're home. I've been waiting for "Oh, you're home. I've been waiting for bro." And you're just like, "What bro." And you're just like, "What bro." And you're just like, "What [laughter] is going on, bro? [laughter] is going on, bro? [laughter] is going on, bro? &gt;&gt; How I mean, how &gt;&gt; How I mean, how &gt;&gt; How I mean, how &gt;&gt; it's so bad. How how how long until his &gt;&gt; it's so bad. How how how long until his &gt;&gt; it's so bad. How how how long until his does he does it t because obviously when does he does it t because obviously when does he does it t because obviously when he he wishes for that the initial he he wishes for that the initial he he wishes for that the initial &gt;&gt; initially it's weird right off the &gt;&gt; initially it's weird right off the &gt;&gt; initially it's weird right off the gates. gates. gates. &gt;&gt; Right out the gates it's &gt;&gt; Right out the gates it's &gt;&gt; Right out the gates it's &gt;&gt; but then he likes her and then he's kind &gt;&gt; but then he likes her and then he's kind &gt;&gt; but then he likes her and then he's kind of like okay of like okay of like okay &gt;&gt; I'm going to figure this out. &gt;&gt; I'm going to figure this out. &gt;&gt; I'm going to figure this out. &gt;&gt; Oh dude, [laughter] it's bad bro. It was &gt;&gt; Oh dude, [laughter] it's bad bro. It was &gt;&gt; Oh dude, [laughter] it's bad bro. It was good though. It was really bad. good though. It was really bad. good though. It was really bad. &gt;&gt; It was really bad. Anyway, I just uh I &gt;&gt; It was really bad. Anyway, I just uh I &gt;&gt; It was really bad. Anyway, I just uh I just read some stuff about SpaceX, Adam. just read some stuff about SpaceX, Adam. just read some stuff about SpaceX, Adam. &gt;&gt; Oh, let's hear it. Oh god. Let's hear &gt;&gt; Oh, let's hear it. Oh god. Let's hear &gt;&gt; Oh, let's hear it. Oh god. Let's hear Let's hear it now. Let's hear it now. Let's hear it now. &gt;&gt; This is crazy. And and so I got some &gt;&gt; This is crazy. And and so I got some &gt;&gt; This is crazy. And and so I got some some questions. I think some some there some questions. I think some some there some questions. I think some some there might be some investment opportunities, might be some investment opportunities, might be some investment opportunities, but not what I think, not what we were but not what I think, not what we were but not what I think, not what we were thinking. thinking. thinking. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Do you know how many millionaires their &gt;&gt; Do you know how many millionaires their &gt;&gt; Do you know how many millionaires their IPO is uh expected to create IPO is uh expected to create IPO is uh expected to create &gt;&gt; that work at SpaceX? Do you know how &gt;&gt; that work at SpaceX? Do you know how &gt;&gt; that work at SpaceX? Do you know how many millionaires? many millionaires? many millionaires? &gt;&gt; How many people work there? &gt;&gt; How many people work there? &gt;&gt; How many people work there? &gt;&gt; 4,000. &gt;&gt; 4,000. &gt;&gt; 4,000. &gt;&gt; Whoa. &gt;&gt; Whoa. &gt;&gt; Whoa. &gt;&gt; Their IPO is going to make 4,000 people &gt;&gt; Their IPO is going to make 4,000 people &gt;&gt; Their IPO is going to make 4,000 people millionaires. And not like a million, millionaires. And not like a million, millionaires. And not like a million, probably like more than like millions of probably like more than like millions of probably like more than like millions of dollars. dollars. dollars. &gt;&gt; Well, I I read that &gt;&gt; Well, I I read that &gt;&gt; Well, I I read that &gt;&gt; 4,000 millionaires. I read that uh 3 I &gt;&gt; 4,000 millionaires. I read that uh 3 I &gt;&gt; 4,000 millionaires. I read that uh 3 I want to say 3.7 so 3 point something want to say 3.7 so 3 point something want to say 3.7 so 3 point something billion dollars is uh basically billion dollars is uh basically billion dollars is uh basically partitioned out partitioned out partitioned out &gt;&gt; for Elon yeah friends family and I think &gt;&gt; for Elon yeah friends family and I think &gt;&gt; for Elon yeah friends family and I think what is in included in that is investors what is in included in that is investors what is in included in that is investors in Twitter and his other companies in Twitter and his other companies in Twitter and his other companies &gt;&gt; that they do not have uh a period a &gt;&gt; that they do not have uh a period a &gt;&gt; that they do not have uh a period a vested period time where they before vested period time where they before vested period time where they before because most time when you have an IPO because most time when you have an IPO because most time when you have an IPO like this and you're already if you were like this and you're already if you were like this and you're already if you were preipo you have to wait until a certain preipo you have to wait until a certain preipo you have to wait until a certain amount of time and I I don't know what amount of time and I I don't know what amount of time and I I don't know what the average is. This is I'm speaking out the average is. This is I'm speaking out the average is. This is I'm speaking out of turn here. Uh but I know there's a of turn here. Uh but I know there's a of turn here. Uh but I know there's a time that you have to wait before you time that you have to wait before you time that you have to wait before you can cash out and it's normally be beyond can cash out and it's normally be beyond can cash out and it's normally be beyond 6 months or whatever like that, right? 6 months or whatever like that, right? 6 months or whatever like that, right? And they don't have that. So in other And they don't have that. So in other And they don't have that. So in other words, as soon as this thing hits and it words, as soon as this thing hits and it words, as soon as this thing hits and it goes to the moon right away, whether goes to the moon right away, whether goes to the moon right away, whether that's 10% 30%, they automatically can that's 10% 30%, they automatically can that's 10% 30%, they automatically can cash out, which makes them like instant cash out, which makes them like instant cash out, which makes them like instant millionaires or centaillionaires right millionaires or centaillionaires right millionaires or centaillionaires right away, which then appeases them if away, which then appeases them if away, which then appeases them if they've been investors in these they've been investors in these they've been investors in these companies that haven't haven't paid them companies that haven't haven't paid them companies that haven't haven't paid them back yet. And so it feels very Ponzi back yet. And so it feels very Ponzi back yet. And so it feels very Ponzi scheme to me. scheme to me. scheme to me. &gt;&gt; I you know, &gt;&gt; I you know, &gt;&gt; I you know, &gt;&gt; legal Ponzi scheme because I know he's &gt;&gt; legal Ponzi scheme because I know he's &gt;&gt; legal Ponzi scheme because I know he's everything he's doing is everything he's doing is everything he's doing is &gt;&gt; is he going to be hooking up his his &gt;&gt; is he going to be hooking up his his &gt;&gt; is he going to be hooking up his his homies is legal. I will say this, he's homies is legal. I will say this, he's homies is legal. I will say this, he's highly scrutinized uh because of his highly scrutinized uh because of his highly scrutinized uh because of his political positions and stuff like they political positions and stuff like they political positions and stuff like they want nothing more than to take him down. want nothing more than to take him down. want nothing more than to take him down. So So So &gt;&gt; he has to, you know, cross his tees and &gt;&gt; he has to, you know, cross his tees and &gt;&gt; he has to, you know, cross his tees and dot his eyes, dot his eyes, dot his eyes, &gt;&gt; but some people are saying that he the &gt;&gt; but some people are saying that he the &gt;&gt; but some people are saying that he the IPO is an exit for a lot of people. Like IPO is an exit for a lot of people. Like IPO is an exit for a lot of people. Like that's why they're doing this is to get that's why they're doing this is to get that's why they're doing this is to get all these people to exit. Well, check all these people to exit. Well, check all these people to exit. Well, check this out when I tell you, Adam. So 4,000 this out when I tell you, Adam. So 4,000 this out when I tell you, Adam. So 4,000 new millionaires right out the gates. Do new millionaires right out the gates. Do new millionaires right out the gates. Do you know where the vast majority of his you know where the vast majority of his you know where the vast majority of his employees live? LA. Uh, employees live? LA. Uh, employees live? LA. Uh, &gt;&gt; I wonder what that would do to the &gt;&gt; I wonder what that would do to the &gt;&gt; I wonder what that would do to the property values out in LA. property values out in LA. property values out in LA. &gt;&gt; Well, definitely the &gt;&gt; Well, definitely the &gt;&gt; Well, definitely the &gt;&gt; It'll probably cause a spike, right? &gt;&gt; It'll probably cause a spike, right? &gt;&gt; It'll probably cause a spike, right? &gt;&gt; It'll definitely cause a spike in the &gt;&gt; It'll definitely cause a spike in the &gt;&gt; It'll definitely cause a spike in the higher the higher, which you don't higher the higher, which you don't higher the higher, which you don't normally see, right? So, properties in normally see, right? So, properties in normally see, right? So, properties in the three. the three. the three. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Properties in the the two three I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Properties in the the two three I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Properties in the the two three I think it's like 2.5 is what they say or think it's like 2.5 is what they say or think it's like 2.5 is what they say or something like that. At least in our something like that. At least in our something like that. At least in our area area area &gt;&gt; is like a slower moving market, smaller &gt;&gt; is like a slower moving market, smaller &gt;&gt; is like a slower moving market, smaller percentage of people. percentage of people. percentage of people. &gt;&gt; So, I'm sure of the the high-end homes &gt;&gt; So, I'm sure of the the high-end homes &gt;&gt; So, I'm sure of the the high-end homes uh I mean probably uh I mean probably uh I mean probably &gt;&gt; because that's got to affect that area. &gt;&gt; because that's got to affect that area. &gt;&gt; because that's got to affect that area. &gt;&gt; Yeah. If if a thousand of those people &gt;&gt; Yeah. If if a thousand of those people &gt;&gt; Yeah. If if a thousand of those people are in LA or 2,000 people, are in LA or 2,000 people, are in LA or 2,000 people, &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; that's going to affect the home prices &gt;&gt; that's going to affect the home prices &gt;&gt; that's going to affect the home prices out there cuz they don't have like a ton out there cuz they don't have like a ton out there cuz they don't have like a ton of it's like it's like this area like of it's like it's like this area like of it's like it's like this area like one of the reasons why social one of the reasons why social one of the reasons why social &gt;&gt; Yeah. There's probably definitely not &gt;&gt; Yeah. There's probably definitely not &gt;&gt; Yeah. There's probably definitely not 500 uh 500 uh 500 uh &gt;&gt; 5 million plus dollar homes available &gt;&gt; 5 million plus dollar homes available &gt;&gt; 5 million plus dollar homes available right now. So it would probably impact right now. So it would probably impact right now. So it would probably impact that that now becomes a competitive that that now becomes a competitive that that now becomes a competitive market or what like what my buddy does market or what like what my buddy does market or what like what my buddy does which he does that over here right where which he does that over here right where which he does that over here right where he buys he buys he buys &gt;&gt; 2 to4 million properties dumps two to &gt;&gt; 2 to4 million properties dumps two to &gt;&gt; 2 to4 million properties dumps two to four million in it and sells it for 15 four million in it and sells it for 15 four million in it and sells it for 15 million like so good time to be someone million like so good time to be someone million like so good time to be someone like that like that like that &gt;&gt; somebody who buys high-end properties &gt;&gt; somebody who buys high-end properties &gt;&gt; somebody who buys high-end properties that need like love to them and then and that need like love to them and then and that need like love to them and then and then put it after relocating I actually then put it after relocating I actually then put it after relocating I actually was watching a thing uh I follow a bunch was watching a thing uh I follow a bunch was watching a thing uh I follow a bunch of like real estate uh influencer people of like real estate uh influencer people of like real estate uh influencer people so I thought I thought was interesting I so I thought I thought was interesting I so I thought I thought was interesting I think I sent to Doug think I sent to Doug think I sent to Doug of uh uh stuff that is uh in vogue now of uh uh stuff that is uh in vogue now of uh uh stuff that is uh in vogue now for houses. They're trying to say that for houses. They're trying to say that for houses. They're trying to say that the uh there's a there's a case that the uh there's a there's a case that the uh there's a there's a case that we're going to go away from the big open we're going to go away from the big open we're going to go away from the big open space and back to partitioning like we space and back to partitioning like we space and back to partitioning like we were in the back in the days. were in the back in the days. were in the back in the days. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've heard a lot about that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've heard a lot about that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've heard a lot about that. &gt;&gt; You have I was wondering that's why I &gt;&gt; You have I was wondering that's why I &gt;&gt; You have I was wondering that's why I sent it to you. I was curious if you had sent it to you. I was curious if you had sent it to you. I was curious if you had heard that too. heard that too. heard that too. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, I've heard that. Um &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, I've heard that. Um &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, I've heard that. Um &gt;&gt; that's weird to me. &gt;&gt; that's weird to me. &gt;&gt; that's weird to me. &gt;&gt; That's dumb. Why would you want that? &gt;&gt; That's dumb. Why would you want that? &gt;&gt; That's dumb. Why would you want that? &gt;&gt; I agree with that. &gt;&gt; I agree with that. &gt;&gt; I agree with that. &gt;&gt; I think there's this people are going &gt;&gt; I think there's this people are going &gt;&gt; I think there's this people are going back to more cozy type of uh back to more cozy type of uh back to more cozy type of uh &gt;&gt; environments. I'll give you an example. &gt;&gt; environments. I'll give you an example. &gt;&gt; environments. I'll give you an example. Think about our place in Truckucky. Think about our place in Truckucky. Think about our place in Truckucky. &gt;&gt; Do you remember the houses we looked at &gt;&gt; Do you remember the houses we looked at &gt;&gt; Do you remember the houses we looked at in Truckucky that they the same square in Truckucky that they the same square in Truckucky that they the same square footage, but they were big and open and footage, but they were big and open and footage, but they were big and open and then our house and there's space our then our house and there's space our then our house and there's space our place. It's got a lot but it feels cozy. place. It's got a lot but it feels cozy. place. It's got a lot but it feels cozy. &gt;&gt; So that I that's the part I don't like &gt;&gt; So that I that's the part I don't like &gt;&gt; So that I that's the part I don't like about about about &gt;&gt; you want more open. So I still think &gt;&gt; you want more open. So I still think &gt;&gt; you want more open. So I still think back of the house that we were on the back of the house that we were on the back of the house that we were on the fence and then we went to that one. fence and then we went to that one. fence and then we went to that one. &gt;&gt; I know what you're talking about. &gt;&gt; I know what you're talking about. &gt;&gt; I know what you're talking about. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I love that open concept. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I love that open concept. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I love that open concept. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And but maybe but I think you would too &gt;&gt; And but maybe but I think you would too &gt;&gt; And but maybe but I think you would too cuz you're a big family guy. There's cuz you're a big family guy. There's cuz you're a big family guy. There's like you you if when my whole family is like you you if when my whole family is like you you if when my whole family is up at Truckucky, we're crammed in that up at Truckucky, we're crammed in that up at Truckucky, we're crammed in that little living room. We're in fact it little living room. We're in fact it little living room. We're in fact it separates everybody. Half my family's in separates everybody. Half my family's in separates everybody. Half my family's in the kitchen, half my family's in the the kitchen, half my family's in the the kitchen, half my family's in the dining room, half my family's in inside dining room, half my family's in inside dining room, half my family's in inside the living room, half my family's the living room, half my family's the living room, half my family's outside. But like when you come to my outside. But like when you come to my outside. But like when you come to my house, cuz I have an open concept, house, cuz I have an open concept, house, cuz I have an open concept, everybody feels everybody feels everybody feels &gt;&gt; that's what I like about if I now if I &gt;&gt; that's what I like about if I now if I &gt;&gt; that's what I like about if I now if I was if I was uh and this is why I'm was if I was uh and this is why I'm was if I was uh and this is why I'm curious and is it because families are curious and is it because families are curious and is it because families are shrinking and and that and so if it's shrinking and and that and so if it's shrinking and and that and so if it's just doing more roommates? just doing more roommates? just doing more roommates? &gt;&gt; Yeah. If it was just me and Katrina, &gt;&gt; Yeah. If it was just me and Katrina, &gt;&gt; Yeah. If it was just me and Katrina, &gt;&gt; you're You know what? You're right. It's &gt;&gt; you're You know what? You're right. It's &gt;&gt; you're You know what? You're right. It's probably cuz families are frequent. probably cuz families are frequent. probably cuz families are frequent. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Because if it's just me and Katrina, I &gt;&gt; Because if it's just me and Katrina, I &gt;&gt; Because if it's just me and Katrina, I would like a little part. I would like would like a little part. I would like would like a little part. I would like when we're in the movie room, I feel when we're in the movie room, I feel when we're in the movie room, I feel like I'm in the movie room. When we're like I'm in the movie room. When we're like I'm in the movie room. When we're in our living room, we have a cozy in our living room, we have a cozy in our living room, we have a cozy living room. But we have so much family living room. But we have so much family living room. But we have so much family and so and and I like and so and and I like and so and and I like &gt;&gt; for hosting it's Yeah. Right. &gt;&gt; for hosting it's Yeah. Right. &gt;&gt; for hosting it's Yeah. Right. &gt;&gt; I think it's also just friends, you &gt;&gt; I think it's also just friends, you &gt;&gt; I think it's also just friends, you know, things come, things go. know, things come, things go. know, things come, things go. &gt;&gt; But I think the open concept is great if &gt;&gt; But I think the open concept is great if &gt;&gt; But I think the open concept is great if you entertain a lot. you entertain a lot. you entertain a lot. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Of course. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Of course. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Of course. &gt;&gt; Yes. You want to You know what else is &gt;&gt; Yes. You want to You know what else is &gt;&gt; Yes. You want to You know what else is trending? And I think that's that's trending? And I think that's that's trending? And I think that's that's falling out of favor, right? Like we're falling out of favor, right? Like we're falling out of favor, right? Like we're we're we're losing community. we're we're losing community. we're we're losing community. &gt;&gt; Actually, yeah. I've been hearing lately &gt;&gt; Actually, yeah. I've been hearing lately &gt;&gt; Actually, yeah. I've been hearing lately though that, you know, the new thing is though that, you know, the new thing is though that, you know, the new thing is not to go to restaurants to entertain not to go to restaurants to entertain not to go to restaurants to entertain people, but to bring people to your home people, but to bring people to your home people, but to bring people to your home and entertain. So, I think that might be and entertain. So, I think that might be and entertain. So, I think that might be a trend. a trend. a trend. &gt;&gt; I hope that's true as well. &gt;&gt; I hope that's true as well. &gt;&gt; I hope that's true as well. &gt;&gt; You know, you know what else is &gt;&gt; You know, you know what else is &gt;&gt; You know, you know what else is trending, which is interesting? You was trending, which is interesting? You was trending, which is interesting? You was it you that sent us the video of the 24 it you that sent us the video of the 24 it you that sent us the video of the 24 on Hillsdale, the remodel? on Hillsdale, the remodel? on Hillsdale, the remodel? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; They're getting rid of the basketball &gt;&gt; They're getting rid of the basketball &gt;&gt; They're getting rid of the basketball court court court &gt;&gt; completely &gt;&gt; completely &gt;&gt; completely &gt;&gt; and putting more weights. &gt;&gt; and putting more weights. &gt;&gt; and putting more weights. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I wanted to go stop in since &gt;&gt; Yeah. I wanted to go stop in since &gt;&gt; Yeah. I wanted to go stop in since that's a old stomping ground for all that's a old stomping ground for all that's a old stomping ground for all three of us. three of us. three of us. &gt;&gt; We should go together. &gt;&gt; We should go together. &gt;&gt; We should go together. &gt;&gt; I'll go with you guys. &gt;&gt; I'll go with you guys. &gt;&gt; I'll go with you guys. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would love to stop. So the it &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would love to stop. So the it &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would love to stop. So the it looks totally different. looks totally different. looks totally different. &gt;&gt; The gym trends in general are going &gt;&gt; The gym trends in general are going &gt;&gt; The gym trends in general are going towards weights. towards weights. towards weights. &gt;&gt; They're taking all the square footage &gt;&gt; They're taking all the square footage &gt;&gt; They're taking all the square footage away from all this other stuff and away from all this other stuff and away from all this other stuff and moving it towards weights. Weights. moving it towards weights. Weights. moving it towards weights. Weights. &gt;&gt; I mean, it's always made sense because &gt;&gt; I mean, it's always made sense because &gt;&gt; I mean, it's always made sense because even I remember we we talked to um uh even I remember we we talked to um uh even I remember we we talked to um uh Mastro about this. The the wet area and Mastro about this. The the wet area and Mastro about this. The the wet area and the basketball court always the least the basketball court always the least the basketball court always the least profitable. profitable. profitable. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Per square footage. It costs them so &gt;&gt; Per square footage. It costs them so &gt;&gt; Per square footage. It costs them so much. so much and it doesn't return very much. so much and it doesn't return very much. so much and it doesn't return very much. It was just like an amenity you much. It was just like an amenity you much. It was just like an amenity you like to have and it's like like to have and it's like like to have and it's like &gt;&gt; and if you look at some of the one of &gt;&gt; and if you look at some of the one of &gt;&gt; and if you look at some of the one of the turnoffs uh if you have been a the turnoffs uh if you have been a the turnoffs uh if you have been a longtime member of 24 has been how longtime member of 24 has been how longtime member of 24 has been how overpop populated the weight room areas overpop populated the weight room areas overpop populated the weight room areas like I the la I tell you what the last like I the la I tell you what the last like I the la I tell you what the last memory I have of going to 24 to actually memory I have of going to 24 to actually memory I have of going to 24 to actually work out. I walked out and I walked out work out. I walked out and I walked out work out. I walked out and I walked out because I was there at a prime hours. I because I was there at a prime hours. I because I was there at a prime hours. I walked in the in the freeway area. I kid walked in the in the freeway area. I kid walked in the in the freeway area. I kid you not, this is not an exaggeration. I you not, this is not an exaggeration. I you not, this is not an exaggeration. I never in my total career of being in never in my total career of being in never in my total career of being in gyms. I never seen this. gyms. I never seen this. gyms. I never seen this. &gt;&gt; Every [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] dumbbell was off the rack. &gt;&gt; Every [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] dumbbell was off the rack. &gt;&gt; Every [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] dumbbell was off the rack. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] &gt;&gt; Oh man. &gt;&gt; Oh man. &gt;&gt; Oh man. &gt;&gt; I've never seen that. I have never seen &gt;&gt; I've never seen that. I have never seen &gt;&gt; I've never seen that. I have never seen a 24. And it there I I was so like my a 24. And it there I I was so like my a 24. And it there I I was so like my jaw dropped. I went whoa. jaw dropped. I went whoa. jaw dropped. I went whoa. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Every every dumbbell was out the rack. I &gt;&gt; Every every dumbbell was out the rack. I &gt;&gt; Every every dumbbell was out the rack. I mean either people were using it or they mean either people were using it or they mean either people were using it or they were on the floor. I went, "Oh my god." were on the floor. I went, "Oh my god." were on the floor. I went, "Oh my god." And I just turned right around. I walked And I just turned right around. I walked And I just turned right around. I walked out. Think about too if you're out. Think about too if you're out. Think about too if you're eliminating the basketball court, how eliminating the basketball court, how eliminating the basketball court, how much drama you just eliminated, you much drama you just eliminated, you much drama you just eliminated, you know, like all the like liability of know, like all the like liability of know, like all the like liability of that. Yeah. And just the fights and con that. Yeah. And just the fights and con that. Yeah. And just the fights and con that's a constant that's a big space too that's a constant that's a big space too that's a constant that's a big space too for I mean you you could add freaking for I mean you you could add freaking for I mean you you could add freaking tons. tons. tons. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. A whole bigger and I like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. A whole bigger and I like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. A whole bigger and I like basketball court. basketball court. basketball court. &gt;&gt; Listen, you manage a gym with a &gt;&gt; Listen, you manage a gym with a &gt;&gt; Listen, you manage a gym with a basketball court 100% there's going to basketball court 100% there's going to basketball court 100% there's going to be a fight once a week. I'm sorry. Once be a fight once a week. I'm sorry. Once be a fight once a week. I'm sorry. Once a month. Once a month. So where all the a month. Once a month. So where all the a month. Once a month. So where all the free people are coming in that was I free people are coming in that was I free people are coming in that was I mean I used to have to stop people from mean I used to have to stop people from mean I used to have to stop people from letting people in the back door letting people in the back door letting people in the back door &gt;&gt; to get them get them inside the &gt;&gt; to get them get them inside the &gt;&gt; to get them get them inside the basketball court. basketball court. basketball court. &gt;&gt; Now did you guys experience this as &gt;&gt; Now did you guys experience this as &gt;&gt; Now did you guys experience this as well? Cuz I'm I I I regrind open that well? Cuz I'm I I I regrind open that well? Cuz I'm I I I regrind open that one, right? And when I had the one, right? And when I had the one, right? And when I had the basketball they warned me. So there was basketball they warned me. So there was basketball they warned me. So there was going to be fights. I'm like whatever going to be fights. I'm like whatever going to be fights. I'm like whatever we'll break them up. we'll break them up. we'll break them up. &gt;&gt; It was the middle-aged dudes that would &gt;&gt; It was the middle-aged dudes that would &gt;&gt; It was the middle-aged dudes that would have all the fights. Did you guys see have all the fights. Did you guys see have all the fights. Did you guys see that too? that too? that too? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; I expected like kids you know like &gt;&gt; I expected like kids you know like &gt;&gt; I expected like kids you know like teenagers coming in. teenagers coming in. teenagers coming in. &gt;&gt; It's the same thing you see in little &gt;&gt; It's the same thing you see in little &gt;&gt; It's the same thing you see in little league. league. league. &gt;&gt; It's a bunch of 40ome year old dad. I &gt;&gt; It's a bunch of 40ome year old dad. I &gt;&gt; It's a bunch of 40ome year old dad. I lost one of my I lost one of my best lost one of my I lost one of my best lost one of my I lost one of my best trainers with from a fight inside the trainers with from a fight inside the trainers with from a fight inside the basketball court. basketball court. basketball court. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Cuz you broke up a fight. &gt;&gt; Cuz you broke up a fight. &gt;&gt; Cuz you broke up a fight. &gt;&gt; He No, he got into a fight with But it &gt;&gt; He No, he got into a fight with But it &gt;&gt; He No, he got into a fight with But it it was like he was it was like he was it was like he was &gt;&gt; He didn't start it. &gt;&gt; He didn't start it. &gt;&gt; He didn't start it. &gt;&gt; He didn't start a fight. It was like &gt;&gt; He didn't start a fight. It was like &gt;&gt; He didn't start a fight. It was like like you said, middle-aged dude punking like you said, middle-aged dude punking like you said, middle-aged dude punking him and stuff like that and threw swung him and stuff like that and threw swung him and stuff like that and threw swung on him. on him. on him. &gt;&gt; Yeah. He defended himself and he got &gt;&gt; Yeah. He defended himself and he got &gt;&gt; Yeah. He defended himself and he got fired. fired. fired. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Cuz all how &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Cuz all how &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You know why? Cuz all how the person who reported the person who reported the person who reported &gt;&gt; it. I remember that. that I also got, &gt;&gt; it. I remember that. that I also got, &gt;&gt; it. I remember that. that I also got, this is one of the the handful of times this is one of the the handful of times this is one of the the handful of times that I was put on leave and almost that I was put on leave and almost that I was put on leave and almost fired. So, I got so angry because at fired. So, I got so angry because at fired. So, I got so angry because at that time my operations manager was out that time my operations manager was out that time my operations manager was out of town and she was out on leave for of town and she was out on leave for of town and she was out on leave for like a week and so the assistant like a week and so the assistant like a week and so the assistant operation manager was put in charge. operation manager was put in charge. operation manager was put in charge. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; She had it out for this trainer. she &gt;&gt; She had it out for this trainer. she &gt;&gt; She had it out for this trainer. she didn't like him. didn't like him. didn't like him. &gt;&gt; And so she &gt;&gt; And so she &gt;&gt; And so she &gt;&gt; stepped in and took control of the &gt;&gt; stepped in and took control of the &gt;&gt; stepped in and took control of the situation and she wrote the report up situation and she wrote the report up situation and she wrote the report up &gt;&gt; and wrote it up in a way that totally &gt;&gt; and wrote it up in a way that totally &gt;&gt; and wrote it up in a way that totally made my trainer look like the antagonist made my trainer look like the antagonist made my trainer look like the antagonist and I got so angry I went in the office and I got so angry I went in the office and I got so angry I went in the office and called her out on it and I made the and called her out on it and I made the and called her out on it and I made the mistake of going in the office alone mistake of going in the office alone mistake of going in the office alone with her. with her. with her. &gt;&gt; Oh, you can't. &gt;&gt; Oh, you can't. &gt;&gt; Oh, you can't. &gt;&gt; And then she reported me cornering her &gt;&gt; And then she reported me cornering her &gt;&gt; And then she reported me cornering her in the office and like and then again in the office and like and then again in the office and like and then again like they totally exaggerated the like they totally exaggerated the like they totally exaggerated the situation. And you're not exactly soft situation. And you're not exactly soft situation. And you're not exactly soft and gentle when you [laughter] &gt;&gt; I'm sure there was a little &gt;&gt; I'm sure there was a little &gt;&gt; anger. Yeah, I was I was sent home and I &gt;&gt; anger. Yeah, I was I was sent home and I &gt;&gt; anger. Yeah, I was I was sent home and I was fired for that one, too. So, a lot was fired for that one, too. So, a lot was fired for that one, too. So, a lot of lot of lessons. of lot of lessons. of lot of lessons. &gt;&gt; I I I one time I mean this not one &gt;&gt; I I I one time I mean this not one &gt;&gt; I I I one time I mean this not one there's many times this happened, but there's many times this happened, but there's many times this happened, but one time a dude runs out, bloody lip, one time a dude runs out, bloody lip, one time a dude runs out, bloody lip, there's a fight in the basketball. So, I there's a fight in the basketball. So, I there's a fight in the basketball. So, I used to go, you know, attention used to go, you know, attention used to go, you know, attention trainers, you know, basketball course. trainers, you know, basketball course. trainers, you know, basketball course. We'd all run in there at the same time. We'd all run in there at the same time. We'd all run in there at the same time. It would always stop everything. You'd It would always stop everything. You'd It would always stop everything. You'd see a bunch of [laughter] jack dudes see a bunch of [laughter] jack dudes see a bunch of [laughter] jack dudes come in there and it would just the come in there and it would just the come in there and it would just the fight would. It was always middle-aged fight would. It was always middle-aged fight would. It was always middle-aged dudes that just like what are you guys dudes that just like what are you guys dudes that just like what are you guys doing? doing? doing? &gt;&gt; Go back to your families. I was just &gt;&gt; Go back to your families. I was just &gt;&gt; Go back to your families. I was just watching. [laughter] watching. [laughter] watching. [laughter] &gt;&gt; I have so many memories like uh you &gt;&gt; I have so many memories like uh you &gt;&gt; I have so many memories like uh you remember that movie Along came Paulie? remember that movie Along came Paulie? remember that movie Along came Paulie? &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; And where he's covering the basketball &gt;&gt; And where he's covering the basketball &gt;&gt; And where he's covering the basketball court and the guy has his shirt off. court and the guy has his shirt off. court and the guy has his shirt off. He's got like bald head and he's got He's got like bald head and he's got He's got like bald head and he's got like just a hairy matted body sweating. like just a hairy matted body sweating. like just a hairy matted body sweating. And I remember having to always cover And I remember having to always cover And I remember having to always cover that guy [laughter] that guy [laughter] that guy [laughter] &gt;&gt; every time. And it was like they didn't &gt;&gt; every time. And it was like they didn't &gt;&gt; every time. And it was like they didn't just sweat like drops of sweat or it was just sweat like drops of sweat or it was just sweat like drops of sweat or it was like slime. Oh, like slime. Oh, like slime. Oh, &gt;&gt; you know what I'm saying? Like I dude &gt;&gt; you know what I'm saying? Like I dude &gt;&gt; you know what I'm saying? Like I dude and it was always shirts off and it was always shirts off and it was always shirts off immediately. He takes his shirt immediately. He takes his shirt immediately. He takes his shirt [laughter] off and I'm like, "Oh god, [laughter] off and I'm like, "Oh god, [laughter] off and I'm like, "Oh god, &gt;&gt; you know, you know that guy knows that &gt;&gt; you know, you know that guy knows that &gt;&gt; you know, you know that guy knows that like that's like part of his strategy. like that's like part of his strategy. like that's like part of his strategy. His His His &gt;&gt; back hairs on your face." &gt;&gt; back hairs on your face." &gt;&gt; back hairs on your face." &gt;&gt; Such an old man move, dude. &gt;&gt; Such an old man move, dude. &gt;&gt; Such an old man move, dude. &gt;&gt; Dude, &gt;&gt; Dude, &gt;&gt; Dude, I had something to ask you. So I uh I I had something to ask you. So I uh I I had something to ask you. So I uh I almost every night I um I make tea. Like almost every night I um I make tea. Like almost every night I um I make tea. Like chamomile tea is like my my go-to move. chamomile tea is like my my go-to move. chamomile tea is like my my go-to move. And you know, ever since we've been And you know, ever since we've been And you know, ever since we've been working with uh Monakura, did I say it working with uh Monakura, did I say it working with uh Monakura, did I say it right? right? right? &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, uh, I use that honey. So, it's &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, uh, I use that honey. So, it's &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, uh, I use that honey. So, it's always the honey now that I put in there always the honey now that I put in there always the honey now that I put in there because of all the medicinal benefits because of all the medicinal benefits because of all the medicinal benefits and everything like that that come with and everything like that that come with and everything like that that come with it. it. it. &gt;&gt; And I like it. Tastes really good. And &gt;&gt; And I like it. Tastes really good. And &gt;&gt; And I like it. Tastes really good. And someone DM' me cuz I happened to I I someone DM' me cuz I happened to I I someone DM' me cuz I happened to I I don't know if I talked about it or I don't know if I talked about it or I don't know if I talked about it or I showed it on video or something like showed it on video or something like showed it on video or something like that and they DM' me and they said, "You that and they DM' me and they said, "You that and they DM' me and they said, "You know that it loses its medicinal know that it loses its medicinal know that it loses its medicinal benefits if I mix it in my tea." benefits if I mix it in my tea." benefits if I mix it in my tea." &gt;&gt; Oh, &gt;&gt; Oh, &gt;&gt; Oh, &gt;&gt; I didn't Is that true? Do you know that? &gt;&gt; I didn't Is that true? Do you know that? &gt;&gt; I didn't Is that true? Do you know that? &gt;&gt; Not really. &gt;&gt; Not really. &gt;&gt; Not really. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No. So the so the medicinal the &gt;&gt; Yeah. No. So the so the medicinal the &gt;&gt; Yeah. No. So the so the medicinal the compound in Manuka honey uh which is compound in Manuka honey uh which is compound in Manuka honey uh which is what monocora is and monoora is is a a what monocora is and monoora is is a a what monocora is and monoora is is a a brand that has the highest amount of brand that has the highest amount of brand that has the highest amount of this medicinal compound called MGO. So this medicinal compound called MGO. So this medicinal compound called MGO. So it's MGO is what you're looking for. MGO it's MGO is what you're looking for. MGO it's MGO is what you're looking for. MGO antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral. antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral. antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral. This is what you'll you know people will This is what you'll you know people will This is what you'll you know people will use. use. use. &gt;&gt; Put on wounds, right? &gt;&gt; Put on wounds, right? &gt;&gt; Put on wounds, right? &gt;&gt; You could put it on wounds. It heals &gt;&gt; You could put it on wounds. It heals &gt;&gt; You could put it on wounds. It heals this is all data. Okay. It heals wounds. this is all data. Okay. It heals wounds. this is all data. Okay. It heals wounds. You could use it in your mouth for You could use it in your mouth for You could use it in your mouth for gingivitis. gingivitis. gingivitis. &gt;&gt; You eat it. It it breaks down bofilms in &gt;&gt; You eat it. It it breaks down bofilms in &gt;&gt; You eat it. It it breaks down bofilms in the gut. So if you have bacterial issues the gut. So if you have bacterial issues the gut. So if you have bacterial issues uh like SIBO or whatever, sometimes uh like SIBO or whatever, sometimes uh like SIBO or whatever, sometimes bacteria create what are called bofilms. bacteria create what are called bofilms. bacteria create what are called bofilms. So nothing can penetrate them, So nothing can penetrate them, So nothing can penetrate them, &gt;&gt; right? It protects them &gt;&gt; right? It protects them &gt;&gt; right? It protects them &gt;&gt; and and MGO breaks down biohilms. &gt;&gt; and and MGO breaks down biohilms. &gt;&gt; and and MGO breaks down biohilms. Anyway, if you put MGO in really really Anyway, if you put MGO in really really Anyway, if you put MGO in really really hot water, boiling water, and leave it hot water, boiling water, and leave it hot water, boiling water, and leave it in there for a while, it will degrade in there for a while, it will degrade in there for a while, it will degrade it. But you'd have to like put it in it. But you'd have to like put it in it. But you'd have to like put it in your scalding hot tea, mix it in, and your scalding hot tea, mix it in, and your scalding hot tea, mix it in, and leave it in there for like 15 20 leave it in there for like 15 20 leave it in there for like 15 20 minutes. So, the way to do it would be minutes. So, the way to do it would be minutes. So, the way to do it would be make your tea, you know, keep it hot, make your tea, you know, keep it hot, make your tea, you know, keep it hot, mix it in, and then start drinking it, mix it in, and then start drinking it, mix it in, and then start drinking it, and you're you're not losing much of it. and you're you're not losing much of it. and you're you're not losing much of it. &gt;&gt; Okay. Cuz that's how So, first of all, I &gt;&gt; Okay. Cuz that's how So, first of all, I &gt;&gt; Okay. Cuz that's how So, first of all, I like boil it. like boil it. like boil it. &gt;&gt; I don't even So, I don't So, I have a um &gt;&gt; I don't even So, I don't So, I have a um &gt;&gt; I don't even So, I don't So, I have a um I have one of those u automatic hot I have one of those u automatic hot I have one of those u automatic hot water things. Have you ever water things. Have you ever water things. Have you ever &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, it squirts out hot water right &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, it squirts out hot water right &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, it squirts out hot water right away. away. away. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And it squirts it out at the &gt;&gt; Yeah. And it squirts it out at the &gt;&gt; Yeah. And it squirts it out at the perfect temperature. So, it's before it perfect temperature. So, it's before it perfect temperature. So, it's before it hits boiling. It's right where you can hits boiling. It's right where you can hits boiling. It's right where you can drink it. Yeah. And so, so I use that drink it. Yeah. And so, so I use that drink it. Yeah. And so, so I use that and then I steep my tea for I don't know and then I steep my tea for I don't know and then I steep my tea for I don't know how, 5 minutes before. So, wait till how, 5 minutes before. So, wait till how, 5 minutes before. So, wait till it's steeped and then add it after. it's steeped and then add it after. it's steeped and then add it after. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And then then that's where I add &gt;&gt; Yeah. And then then that's where I add &gt;&gt; Yeah. And then then that's where I add my honey. Okay. So, I'm okay. my honey. Okay. So, I'm okay. my honey. Okay. So, I'm okay. &gt;&gt; You're totally fine. &gt;&gt; You're totally fine. &gt;&gt; You're totally fine. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I was like, "Oh, man. She made me &gt;&gt; Yeah. I was like, "Oh, man. She made me &gt;&gt; Yeah. I was like, "Oh, man. She made me feel stupid." I was like, "This whole feel stupid." I was like, "This whole feel stupid." I was like, "This whole time I'm I'm using We got such a nice time I'm I'm using We got such a nice time I'm I'm using We got such a nice hack." hack." hack." &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, yeah. We got this good honey &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, yeah. We got this good honey &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, yeah. We got this good honey that that I'm like wasting if it's I'm that that I'm like wasting if it's I'm that that I'm like wasting if it's I'm degrading. That's the whole point. degrading. That's the whole point. degrading. That's the whole point. &gt;&gt; You should see though the the the &gt;&gt; You should see though the the the &gt;&gt; You should see though the the the studies on uh Manuka. studies on uh Manuka. studies on uh Manuka. &gt;&gt; It's crazy on Burns. &gt;&gt; It's crazy on Burns. &gt;&gt; It's crazy on Burns. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; On burns. It's wild. Well, I wonder too &gt;&gt; On burns. It's wild. Well, I wonder too &gt;&gt; On burns. It's wild. Well, I wonder too like and I know I used to train this like and I know I used to train this like and I know I used to train this lady that's like a worldrenowned opera lady that's like a worldrenowned opera lady that's like a worldrenowned opera singer and she had like a whole, you singer and she had like a whole, you singer and she had like a whole, you know, process before to keep her, you know, process before to keep her, you know, process before to keep her, you know, vocal cords and everything all know, vocal cords and everything all know, vocal cords and everything all nice and ready and u and then she would, nice and ready and u and then she would, nice and ready and u and then she would, you know, do all kinds of stuff with you know, do all kinds of stuff with you know, do all kinds of stuff with like hot water, lemon, and, you know, like hot water, lemon, and, you know, like hot water, lemon, and, you know, some honey. I wonder if that would, you some honey. I wonder if that would, you some honey. I wonder if that would, you know, even using the Monora honey would know, even using the Monora honey would know, even using the Monora honey would &gt;&gt; So I I'll use it too when I sort of &gt;&gt; So I I'll use it too when I sort of &gt;&gt; So I I'll use it too when I sort of notice I sort of have like a little bit notice I sort of have like a little bit notice I sort of have like a little bit of a scratchy throat or what I'll just of a scratchy throat or what I'll just of a scratchy throat or what I'll just go take a tablespoon of it. go take a tablespoon of it. go take a tablespoon of it. &gt;&gt; That's right. That's when I do it all. &gt;&gt; That's right. That's when I do it all. &gt;&gt; That's right. That's when I do it all. It's so much thicker and better than It's so much thicker and better than It's so much thicker and better than regular honey, too. Even regular honey, regular honey, too. Even regular honey, regular honey, too. Even regular honey, I would I would do something like that. I would I would do something like that. I would I would do something like that. Now, with the with my like local honey Now, with the with my like local honey Now, with the with my like local honey with this, it's so thick. It coats it. with this, it's so thick. It coats it. with this, it's so thick. It coats it. It feels so good right afterwards. It feels so good right afterwards. It feels so good right afterwards. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Opera singers, like legit ones, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Opera singers, like legit ones, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Opera singers, like legit ones, they have they make a good living. they have they make a good living. they have they make a good living. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; That's a really hard skill. &gt;&gt; That's a really hard skill. &gt;&gt; That's a really hard skill. &gt;&gt; It is &gt;&gt; It is &gt;&gt; It is &gt;&gt; to do. Have you guys &gt;&gt; to do. Have you guys &gt;&gt; to do. Have you guys opera? opera? opera? &gt;&gt; Well, I mean, if you're in Italy, Yeah. &gt;&gt; Well, I mean, if you're in Italy, Yeah. &gt;&gt; Well, I mean, if you're in Italy, Yeah. And uh I think Well, I I mean, And uh I think Well, I I mean, And uh I think Well, I I mean, &gt;&gt; it's a very specific skill. &gt;&gt; it's a very specific skill. &gt;&gt; it's a very specific skill. &gt;&gt; It's very specific. Yeah. Yeah. She she &gt;&gt; It's very specific. Yeah. Yeah. She she &gt;&gt; It's very specific. Yeah. Yeah. She she definitely gets uh a lot of like big, definitely gets uh a lot of like big, definitely gets uh a lot of like big, you know, like gigs like in Europe and you know, like gigs like in Europe and you know, like gigs like in Europe and whatnot, but um whatnot, but um whatnot, but um &gt;&gt; you guys Okay. &gt;&gt; you guys Okay. &gt;&gt; you guys Okay. &gt;&gt; I know I know uh composers make a bunch &gt;&gt; I know I know uh composers make a bunch &gt;&gt; I know I know uh composers make a bunch of money. That for sure. of money. That for sure. of money. That for sure. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; I'm going to go see one in the end of &gt;&gt; I'm going to go see one in the end of &gt;&gt; I'm going to go see one in the end of this year. And I like the tickets. I was this year. And I like the tickets. I was this year. And I like the tickets. I was like, like, like, &gt;&gt; really? &gt;&gt; really? &gt;&gt; really? &gt;&gt; Whoa. &gt;&gt; Whoa. &gt;&gt; Whoa. &gt;&gt; Composers or conductors? &gt;&gt; Composers or conductors? &gt;&gt; Composers or conductors? &gt;&gt; Is isn't a composer who does the &gt;&gt; Is isn't a composer who does the &gt;&gt; Is isn't a composer who does the &gt;&gt; conductor? Composer conductor that &gt;&gt; conductor? Composer conductor that &gt;&gt; conductor? Composer conductor that writes writes writes &gt;&gt; conductor is the one at the front with &gt;&gt; conductor is the one at the front with &gt;&gt; conductor is the one at the front with the stick. the stick. the stick. &gt;&gt; Yeah, exactly. And then so what's a &gt;&gt; Yeah, exactly. And then so what's a &gt;&gt; Yeah, exactly. And then so what's a composer? composer? composer? &gt;&gt; The guy that writes the music or the &gt;&gt; The guy that writes the music or the &gt;&gt; The guy that writes the music or the person that writes can't you be both? person that writes can't you be both? person that writes can't you be both? No. No. No. &gt;&gt; So if a guy So if a guy So the guy that &gt;&gt; So if a guy So if a guy So the guy that &gt;&gt; So if a guy So if a guy So the guy that I'm going to go see I I'll I'll I'll I'm going to go see I I'll I'll I'll I'm going to go see I I'll I'll I'll share the next podcast I'll share is share the next podcast I'll share is share the next podcast I'll share is like I have to show these guys. He's like I have to show these guys. He's like I have to show these guys. He's he's badass. he's badass. he's badass. &gt;&gt; What's making you go to this? That's &gt;&gt; What's making you go to this? That's &gt;&gt; What's making you go to this? That's interesting. interesting. interesting. &gt;&gt; I like just stuff like that. I love So &gt;&gt; I like just stuff like that. I love So &gt;&gt; I like just stuff like that. I love So uh like I I listen to all music. uh like I I listen to all music. uh like I I listen to all music. &gt;&gt; I am into talented people. &gt;&gt; I am into talented people. &gt;&gt; I am into talented people. &gt;&gt; I I have like such an appreciation like &gt;&gt; I I have like such an appreciation like &gt;&gt; I I have like such an appreciation like I don't I'm not very uh I don't I'm not very uh I don't I'm not very uh &gt;&gt; like you know how people get like I'm &gt;&gt; like you know how people get like I'm &gt;&gt; like you know how people get like I'm only rock or I'm only country or I'm only rock or I'm only country or I'm only rock or I'm only country or I'm only this. Like I can pretty much only this. Like I can pretty much only this. Like I can pretty much listen, watch go I mean I went I went listen, watch go I mean I went I went listen, watch go I mean I went I went &gt;&gt; I went what two weeks ago to go watch a &gt;&gt; I went what two weeks ago to go watch a &gt;&gt; I went what two weeks ago to go watch a a play with my wife like all I which was a play with my wife like all I which was a play with my wife like all I which was a whatchamacallit aal? a whatchamacallit aal? a whatchamacallit aal? &gt;&gt; Yeah musical. &gt;&gt; Yeah musical. &gt;&gt; Yeah musical. &gt;&gt; You did? &gt;&gt; You did? &gt;&gt; You did? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; What did you watch? &gt;&gt; What did you watch? &gt;&gt; What did you watch? &gt;&gt; Uh it was um the one on Alicia Keys. &gt;&gt; Uh it was um the one on Alicia Keys. &gt;&gt; Uh it was um the one on Alicia Keys. &gt;&gt; Did you like it? &gt;&gt; Did you like it? &gt;&gt; Did you like it? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. You did tell us about it. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. You did tell us about it. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. You did tell us about it. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I went and saw Hell's &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I went and saw Hell's &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. I went and saw Hell's Kitchen. It was good. It was based it Kitchen. It was good. It was based it Kitchen. It was good. It was based it was a it was based off of her her her was a it was based off of her her her was a it was based off of her her her whole whole whole &gt;&gt; I love I love musicals. It's very &gt;&gt; I love I love musicals. It's very &gt;&gt; I love I love musicals. It's very interesting. Again, if you are talented interesting. Again, if you are talented interesting. Again, if you are talented in in in your craft, I'm interested. I in in in your craft, I'm interested. I in in in your craft, I'm interested. I just I find watching people like that just I find watching people like that just I find watching people like that are at peak and this and this guy who's are at peak and this and this guy who's are at peak and this and this guy who's a conductor, but I I would call him a a conductor, but I I would call him a a conductor, but I I would call him a conductor and a composer because one of conductor and a composer because one of conductor and a composer because one of the things he does that's sick is the things he does that's sick is the things he does that's sick is &gt;&gt; live in on stage, he builds a song in &gt;&gt; live in on stage, he builds a song in &gt;&gt; live in on stage, he builds a song in front of you front of you front of you &gt;&gt; and so and he lit he does it by his ear. &gt;&gt; and so and he lit he does it by his ear. &gt;&gt; and so and he lit he does it by his ear. And so he has he has his entire And so he has he has his entire And so he has he has his entire orchestra and he'll be like, "Okay, give orchestra and he'll be like, "Okay, give orchestra and he'll be like, "Okay, give me and" and he coaches him, "Give me a C me and" and he coaches him, "Give me a C me and" and he coaches him, "Give me a C minor." and he'll no no a little higher minor." and he'll no no a little higher minor." and he'll no no a little higher there. Okay, hold that. there. Okay, hold that. there. Okay, hold that. &gt;&gt; And then he'll go to the next group and &gt;&gt; And then he'll go to the next group and &gt;&gt; And then he'll go to the next group and then and then you get to watch then and then you get to watch then and then you get to watch &gt;&gt; him and he'll do it first time ever. &gt;&gt; him and he'll do it first time ever. &gt;&gt; him and he'll do it first time ever. It's not like it's he's rehearsed it or It's not like it's he's rehearsed it or It's not like it's he's rehearsed it or they they the people the orchestra that they they the people the orchestra that they they the people the orchestra that he's working has never rehearsed any of he's working has never rehearsed any of he's working has never rehearsed any of it. it. it. &gt;&gt; He's literally coaching each instrument &gt;&gt; He's literally coaching each instrument &gt;&gt; He's literally coaching each instrument up and then it comes together this in up and then it comes together this in up and then it comes together this in this cool this cool this cool &gt;&gt; and you get to watch it. I was like, "Oh &gt;&gt; and you get to watch it. I was like, "Oh &gt;&gt; and you get to watch it. I was like, "Oh my god." I I went down the rabbit hole my god." I I went down the rabbit hole my god." I I went down the rabbit hole watching him on YouTube watching him on YouTube watching him on YouTube &gt;&gt; and he's just unbelievably talented. &gt;&gt; and he's just unbelievably talented. &gt;&gt; and he's just unbelievably talented. What's his name? What's his name? What's his name? &gt;&gt; Uh, yeah. I'll I'll I'll find it. I &gt;&gt; Uh, yeah. I'll I'll I'll find it. I &gt;&gt; Uh, yeah. I'll I'll I'll find it. I know. I apologize for bringing this up. know. I apologize for bringing this up. know. I apologize for bringing this up. I wasn't planning on talking about it, I wasn't planning on talking about it, I wasn't planning on talking about it, but but but &gt;&gt; there's this one guy on Instagram, &gt;&gt; there's this one guy on Instagram, &gt;&gt; there's this one guy on Instagram, Justin knows him. I don't know what his Justin knows him. I don't know what his Justin knows him. I don't know what his name is. He's a drummer. name is. He's a drummer. name is. He's a drummer. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; And he does things with his with with so &gt;&gt; And he does things with his with with so &gt;&gt; And he does things with his with with so fast with with sticks. fast with with sticks. fast with with sticks. &gt;&gt; This is going to piss me off. Yeah. &gt;&gt; This is going to piss me off. Yeah. &gt;&gt; This is going to piss me off. Yeah. &gt;&gt; What? I have I can't even believe he &gt;&gt; What? I have I can't even believe he &gt;&gt; What? I have I can't even believe he does half the stuff. does half the stuff. does half the stuff. &gt;&gt; I know. Yeah. I I'm He trying to &gt;&gt; I know. Yeah. I I'm He trying to &gt;&gt; I know. Yeah. I I'm He trying to remember his name. remember his name. remember his name. &gt;&gt; He'll use the back of the stick. He'll &gt;&gt; He'll use the back of the stick. He'll &gt;&gt; He'll use the back of the stick. He'll flip it. He'll He'll use a base. He'll flip it. He'll He'll use a base. He'll flip it. He'll He'll use a base. He'll even um put a stick on top like balanced even um put a stick on top like balanced even um put a stick on top like balanced over a symbol and just you know shake it over a symbol and just you know shake it over a symbol and just you know shake it just enough so so it'll it'll like hit just enough so so it'll it'll like hit just enough so so it'll it'll like hit all these like really like complicated all these like really like complicated all these like really like complicated piec how talented piec how talented piec how talented &gt;&gt; Jacob Collier. &gt;&gt; Jacob Collier. &gt;&gt; Jacob Collier. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; So he comes to San Francisco in I &gt;&gt; So he comes to San Francisco in I &gt;&gt; So he comes to San Francisco in I believe either October, November when believe either October, November when believe either October, November when we're going. we're going. we're going. &gt;&gt; But I I mean I'd never gone to something &gt;&gt; But I I mean I'd never gone to something &gt;&gt; But I I mean I'd never gone to something like this. So I look at Katrina I'm like like this. So I look at Katrina I'm like like this. So I look at Katrina I'm like and she's like well where do you want to and she's like well where do you want to and she's like well where do you want to sit? I'm like I want good seats so sit sit? I'm like I want good seats so sit sit? I'm like I want good seats so sit close. And then she comes back, she's close. And then she comes back, she's close. And then she comes back, she's like, "You know how much we're paying to like, "You know how much we're paying to like, "You know how much we're paying to go see that close?" Holy [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] I was go see that close?" Holy [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] I was go see that close?" Holy [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] I was like, "Well, I didn't think it would be like, "Well, I didn't think it would be like, "Well, I didn't think it would be like that." But I mean, obviously he's like that." But I mean, obviously he's like that." But I mean, obviously he's wildly talented and I'm sure makes good wildly talented and I'm sure makes good wildly talented and I'm sure makes good money. money. money. &gt;&gt; His name is El Estapario &gt;&gt; His name is El Estapario &gt;&gt; His name is El Estapario Sabariano. Sabariano. Sabariano. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; But yeah, he used to go by a different &gt;&gt; But yeah, he used to go by a different &gt;&gt; But yeah, he used to go by a different like handle. He's so good. He's so like handle. He's so good. He's so like handle. He's so good. He's so YouTube Jacob Collier and watch him do YouTube Jacob Collier and watch him do YouTube Jacob Collier and watch him do this. this. this. &gt;&gt; Okay. Uh like again you can you don't &gt;&gt; Okay. Uh like again you can you don't &gt;&gt; Okay. Uh like again you can you don't even have to be into this stuff and you even have to be into this stuff and you even have to be into this stuff and you go like that. go like that. go like that. &gt;&gt; I find it so impressive when people can &gt;&gt; I find it so impressive when people can &gt;&gt; I find it so impressive when people can do stuff like the like the the worship do stuff like the like the the worship do stuff like the like the the worship leader at our church uh Charlie. You met leader at our church uh Charlie. You met leader at our church uh Charlie. You met Charlie? He gets this haircut here Charlie? He gets this haircut here Charlie? He gets this haircut here sometimes. He's come in here a couple sometimes. He's come in here a couple sometimes. He's come in here a couple times. times. times. &gt;&gt; So he sings and he plays the guitar and &gt;&gt; So he sings and he plays the guitar and &gt;&gt; So he sings and he plays the guitar and the other day we're at church and he's the other day we're at church and he's the other day we're at church and he's doing the drums and I'm like you can doing the drums and I'm like you can doing the drums and I'm like you can play the drums too. So afterwards I'm play the drums too. So afterwards I'm play the drums too. So afterwards I'm like what else can you do? He's like oh like what else can you do? He's like oh like what else can you do? He's like oh I also play the trumpet. Like what I also play the trumpet. Like what I also play the trumpet. Like what instrument? instrument? instrument? &gt;&gt; Like they get bored you know like you &gt;&gt; Like they get bored you know like you &gt;&gt; Like they get bored you know like you get like the top tier of like an get like the top tier of like an get like the top tier of like an instrument and then it's like well what instrument and then it's like well what instrument and then it's like well what do I want to learn next? you get into do I want to learn next? you get into do I want to learn next? you get into the recording of it and you're like the recording of it and you're like the recording of it and you're like sometimes you don't want to rely on sometimes you don't want to rely on sometimes you don't want to rely on everybody else to to create your end everybody else to to create your end everybody else to to create your end result vision and result vision and result vision and &gt;&gt; he plays like five instruments. I'm like &gt;&gt; he plays like five instruments. I'm like &gt;&gt; he plays like five instruments. I'm like what do you not play like piano? I know what do you not play like piano? I know what do you not play like piano? I know people like I know a lot of people like people like I know a lot of people like people like I know a lot of people like that. that. that. &gt;&gt; That's crazy. &gt;&gt; That's crazy. &gt;&gt; That's crazy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; I think [clears throat] I think I'm into &gt;&gt; I think [clears throat] I think I'm into &gt;&gt; I think [clears throat] I think I'm into that stuff so much because it's like I'm that stuff so much because it's like I'm that stuff so much because it's like I'm so terrible. Like I have no talent in my so terrible. Like I have no talent in my so terrible. Like I have no talent in my bone whatsoever. Like I [laughter] bone whatsoever. Like I [laughter] bone whatsoever. Like I [laughter] can't. It's like so it's like so far can't. It's like so it's like so far can't. It's like so it's like so far beyond me. beyond me. beyond me. &gt;&gt; It wors for me cuz like I I have like &gt;&gt; It wors for me cuz like I I have like &gt;&gt; It wors for me cuz like I I have like this much talent and then like I'm this much talent and then like I'm this much talent and then like I'm around people that have like this much around people that have like this much around people that have like this much talent and you're just like I suck. talent and you're just like I suck. talent and you're just like I suck. &gt;&gt; It's it's crazy cuz I mean and there's a &gt;&gt; It's it's crazy cuz I mean and there's a &gt;&gt; It's it's crazy cuz I mean and there's a I guess a part of me too I like uh you I guess a part of me too I like uh you I guess a part of me too I like uh you know neuroscience and neurosychology and know neuroscience and neurosychology and know neuroscience and neurosychology and so there's a part of me that's like so there's a part of me that's like so there's a part of me that's like what's going on in that person's brain what's going on in that person's brain what's going on in that person's brain that is so different than mine that he that is so different than mine that he that is so different than mine that he could do that that he could just hear could do that that he could just hear could do that that he could just hear and go no no no and go no no no and go no no no &gt;&gt; it's wired different [clears throat] &gt;&gt; it's wired different [clears throat] &gt;&gt; it's wired different [clears throat] &gt;&gt; just totally wired different. It has to &gt;&gt; just totally wired different. It has to &gt;&gt; just totally wired different. It has to be operating on a whole different be operating on a whole different be operating on a whole different operating system than mine could fire on operating system than mine could fire on operating system than mine could fire on because I'm like, I can't I can't pick because I'm like, I can't I can't pick because I'm like, I can't I can't pick any of that up. But then you see it all any of that up. But then you see it all any of that up. But then you see it all come together and you're like, whoa, come together and you're like, whoa, come together and you're like, whoa, that's so cool. All right. I want to that's so cool. All right. I want to that's so cool. All right. 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Thank you so much for taking my &gt;&gt; Good. Thank you so much for taking my call. So, I'll just jump into my call. So, I'll just jump into my call. So, I'll just jump into my question and I'll provide a little question and I'll provide a little question and I'll provide a little background, but feel free to poke and background, but feel free to poke and background, but feel free to poke and prod and follow follow up with any prod and follow follow up with any prod and follow follow up with any questions. questions. questions. &gt;&gt; No worries. Thank you. &gt;&gt; No worries. Thank you. &gt;&gt; No worries. Thank you. &gt;&gt; So, my question is, what should my &gt;&gt; So, my question is, what should my &gt;&gt; So, my question is, what should my programming look like during a programming look like during a programming look like during a high-risisk pregnancy when I've been high-risisk pregnancy when I've been high-risisk pregnancy when I've been advised no heavy lifting or intense advised no heavy lifting or intense advised no heavy lifting or intense activity? So, my background is I'm a activity? So, my background is I'm a activity? So, my background is I'm a huge fan and longtime listener. I've huge fan and longtime listener. I've huge fan and longtime listener. I've been listening since 2017. been listening since 2017. been listening since 2017. &gt;&gt; I feel like we are longtime friends &gt;&gt; I feel like we are longtime friends &gt;&gt; I feel like we are longtime friends considering I've spent hundreds of hours considering I've spent hundreds of hours considering I've spent hundreds of hours listening to you guys. listening to you guys. listening to you guys. &gt;&gt; The content and programs have changed &gt;&gt; The content and programs have changed &gt;&gt; The content and programs have changed the way I view fitness, faith, and the way I view fitness, faith, and the way I view fitness, faith, and family. I'm forever thankful for family. I'm forever thankful for family. I'm forever thankful for stumbling upon this podcast nearly 10 stumbling upon this podcast nearly 10 stumbling upon this podcast nearly 10 years ago. So, I'm a 30-year-old female years ago. So, I'm a 30-year-old female years ago. So, I'm a 30-year-old female who has been working out consistently who has been working out consistently who has been working out consistently since I was about 16. I have followed since I was about 16. I have followed since I was about 16. I have followed MEAP's programs exclusively for the last MEAP's programs exclusively for the last MEAP's programs exclusively for the last 6 years. Being that my husband and I 6 years. Being that my husband and I 6 years. Being that my husband and I wanted to prioritize having children wanted to prioritize having children wanted to prioritize having children with some infertility struggles in the with some infertility struggles in the with some infertility struggles in the mix, I listened to your advice and took mix, I listened to your advice and took mix, I listened to your advice and took several steps to prepare my body for several steps to prepare my body for several steps to prepare my body for pregnancy. I was 115 lbs and I put on pregnancy. I was 115 lbs and I put on pregnancy. I was 115 lbs and I put on approximately 20 lbs, some muscle, some approximately 20 lbs, some muscle, some approximately 20 lbs, some muscle, some fat in the last 2 years. I also dialed fat in the last 2 years. I also dialed fat in the last 2 years. I also dialed back my training to Map's 15 programs back my training to Map's 15 programs back my training to Map's 15 programs plus daily walking to ensure I wasn't plus daily walking to ensure I wasn't plus daily walking to ensure I wasn't overdoing my training. In September overdoing my training. In September overdoing my training. In September 2025, I started IVF. I continued with 2025, I started IVF. I continued with 2025, I started IVF. I continued with MAPS 15, but with retrievals, transfers, MAPS 15, but with retrievals, transfers, MAPS 15, but with retrievals, transfers, and just overall side effects, I will and just overall side effects, I will and just overall side effects, I will admit that my training was not always admit that my training was not always admit that my training was not always consistent. Fast forward to January consistent. Fast forward to January consistent. Fast forward to January 2026, I got pregnant. 2026, I got pregnant. 2026, I got pregnant. &gt;&gt; Um, because of a history of miscarriages &gt;&gt; Um, because of a history of miscarriages &gt;&gt; Um, because of a history of miscarriages and an IVF pregnancy, I was put in the and an IVF pregnancy, I was put in the and an IVF pregnancy, I was put in the higher risk category from the start. At higher risk category from the start. At higher risk category from the start. At six weeks, I had a subcorionic hematoma six weeks, I had a subcorionic hematoma six weeks, I had a subcorionic hematoma or SCH and actually um experienced or SCH and actually um experienced or SCH and actually um experienced bleeding until about nine weeks. At this bleeding until about nine weeks. At this bleeding until about nine weeks. At this point, I was advised no lifting, no point, I was advised no lifting, no point, I was advised no lifting, no activity. Thankfully, that passed and activity. Thankfully, that passed and activity. Thankfully, that passed and the baby was all right. During that the baby was all right. During that the baby was all right. During that time, I was only walking, doing time, I was only walking, doing time, I was only walking, doing mobility, but no strength training. mobility, but no strength training. mobility, but no strength training. After that, I started to incorporate After that, I started to incorporate After that, I started to incorporate lifting back in. But between first lifting back in. But between first lifting back in. But between first trimester symptoms and just fear of trimester symptoms and just fear of trimester symptoms and just fear of compromising the pregnancy, it was compromising the pregnancy, it was compromising the pregnancy, it was mostly body weight, some bands, mostly body weight, some bands, mostly body weight, some bands, squatting, no more than the bar. Nothing squatting, no more than the bar. Nothing squatting, no more than the bar. Nothing was intense, nothing structured. At my was intense, nothing structured. At my was intense, nothing structured. At my 20we appointment, I was diagnosed with a 20we appointment, I was diagnosed with a 20we appointment, I was diagnosed with a pretty severe placenta privia and was pretty severe placenta privia and was pretty severe placenta privia and was told again no heavy lifting or intense told again no heavy lifting or intense told again no heavy lifting or intense activity. I'm currently 24 weeks activity. I'm currently 24 weeks activity. I'm currently 24 weeks pregnant and just feel like I'm spinning pregnant and just feel like I'm spinning pregnant and just feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I haven't done any structured my wheels. I haven't done any structured my wheels. I haven't done any structured lifting or programs throughout the lifting or programs throughout the lifting or programs throughout the pregnancy. I want to finish the back pregnancy. I want to finish the back pregnancy. I want to finish the back half of my pregnancy healthy and prepare half of my pregnancy healthy and prepare half of my pregnancy healthy and prepare for this baby's arrival. I also just for this baby's arrival. I also just for this baby's arrival. I also just enjoy movement in my daily workouts for enjoy movement in my daily workouts for enjoy movement in my daily workouts for my mental health. I had pictured myself my mental health. I had pictured myself my mental health. I had pictured myself being the fit pregnant lady still being the fit pregnant lady still being the fit pregnant lady still squatting and deadlifting until day of squatting and deadlifting until day of squatting and deadlifting until day of delivery, but that has not been the delivery, but that has not been the delivery, but that has not been the case, which is a shame because I've case, which is a shame because I've case, which is a shame because I've actually felt pretty good throughout the actually felt pretty good throughout the actually felt pretty good throughout the pregnancy despite these complications. pregnancy despite these complications. pregnancy despite these complications. Any suggestions on programming or safe Any suggestions on programming or safe Any suggestions on programming or safe exercises I can be doing. I had exercises I can be doing. I had exercises I can be doing. I had considered MAP starter since you guys considered MAP starter since you guys considered MAP starter since you guys talk about this post pregnancy, but I'm talk about this post pregnancy, but I'm talk about this post pregnancy, but I'm not sure if this would even be not sure if this would even be not sure if this would even be considered too much with my high-risisk considered too much with my high-risisk considered too much with my high-risisk diagnosis. diagnosis. diagnosis. &gt;&gt; Yeah, thanks for calling in, Katie. I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah, thanks for calling in, Katie. I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah, thanks for calling in, Katie. I'm so glad you're so glad you're so glad you're &gt;&gt; you made it. &gt;&gt; you made it. &gt;&gt; you made it. &gt;&gt; You're pregnant. This is great. And &gt;&gt; You're pregnant. This is great. And &gt;&gt; You're pregnant. This is great. And you've gone this far. So, that's uh you've gone this far. So, that's uh you've gone this far. So, that's uh phenomenal. So, let me just encourage phenomenal. So, let me just encourage phenomenal. So, let me just encourage you uh for a second. Okay, you have a you uh for a second. Okay, you have a you uh for a second. Okay, you have a history of strength training. history of strength training. history of strength training. &gt;&gt; And if you did no strength training, you &gt;&gt; And if you did no strength training, you &gt;&gt; And if you did no strength training, you did none for a year, not even nine did none for a year, not even nine did none for a year, not even nine months, you did nothing for a year. when months, you did nothing for a year. when months, you did nothing for a year. when you finally get back into it, you're you finally get back into it, you're you finally get back into it, you're your your body is gonna get you're going your your body is gonna get you're going your your body is gonna get you're going to get strong very quick. The muscle to get strong very quick. The muscle to get strong very quick. The muscle memory is a real thing. So, I just want memory is a real thing. So, I just want memory is a real thing. So, I just want to encourage you with that. Don't have a to encourage you with that. Don't have a to encourage you with that. Don't have a fear because maybe you have a fear of fear because maybe you have a fear of fear because maybe you have a fear of like, "Oh my god, I'm going to lose like, "Oh my god, I'm going to lose like, "Oh my god, I'm going to lose everything." Um, and then what am I everything." Um, and then what am I everything." Um, and then what am I going to do afterwards? You you it'll be going to do afterwards? You you it'll be going to do afterwards? You you it'll be okay. It'll totally be okay. My advice okay. It'll totally be okay. My advice okay. It'll totally be okay. My advice to you um is to walk. to you um is to walk. to you um is to walk. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Uh yeah. I don't I don't want you to do &gt;&gt; Uh yeah. I don't I don't want you to do &gt;&gt; Uh yeah. I don't I don't want you to do any strength training because of the the any strength training because of the the any strength training because of the the the risk that you're at because of the the risk that you're at because of the the risk that you're at because of the uh hematoma. uh hematoma. uh hematoma. um and some of the other issues that you um and some of the other issues that you um and some of the other issues that you had brought up. Uh I think uh lifting had brought up. Uh I think uh lifting had brought up. Uh I think uh lifting weights as too high weights as too high weights as too high &gt;&gt; of a risk uh for what is going on right &gt;&gt; of a risk uh for what is going on right &gt;&gt; of a risk uh for what is going on right now. I also want to um just add that now. I also want to um just add that now. I also want to um just add that pregnancy is really hard, especially for pregnancy is really hard, especially for pregnancy is really hard, especially for women who have a history of fitness. women who have a history of fitness. women who have a history of fitness. Now, I don't mean that because it's Now, I don't mean that because it's Now, I don't mean that because it's harder for them in the sense that harder for them in the sense that harder for them in the sense that they're not fit and their bodies can't they're not fit and their bodies can't they're not fit and their bodies can't handle it. It's harder because you're handle it. It's harder because you're handle it. It's harder because you're probably so used to your body doing what probably so used to your body doing what probably so used to your body doing what you want and knowing what you do, what you want and knowing what you do, what you want and knowing what you do, what you can do to change how you move and you can do to change how you move and you can do to change how you move and your strength and your fitness that your strength and your fitness that your strength and your fitness that suddenly it feels like it's not your suddenly it feels like it's not your suddenly it feels like it's not your body anymore. Suddenly it's like I can't body anymore. Suddenly it's like I can't body anymore. Suddenly it's like I can't like what's going on here? I'm at the like what's going on here? I'm at the like what's going on here? I'm at the mercy of whatever the heck my body wants mercy of whatever the heck my body wants mercy of whatever the heck my body wants to do. That's really really tough. I've to do. That's really really tough. I've to do. That's really really tough. I've worked with a lot of women uh before, worked with a lot of women uh before, worked with a lot of women uh before, during, and after pregnancy who were during, and after pregnancy who were during, and after pregnancy who were athletes uh or really into fitness and athletes uh or really into fitness and athletes uh or really into fitness and this was always a big struggle for them. this was always a big struggle for them. this was always a big struggle for them. It was and they would always tell me It was and they would always tell me It was and they would always tell me like this that doesn't feel like my body like this that doesn't feel like my body like this that doesn't feel like my body &gt;&gt; like I don't know what's going on. This &gt;&gt; like I don't know what's going on. This &gt;&gt; like I don't know what's going on. This is really hard. Who am I? It's like your is really hard. Who am I? It's like your is really hard. Who am I? It's like your identity. You have kind of this identity identity. You have kind of this identity identity. You have kind of this identity crisis which I think happens anyway uh crisis which I think happens anyway uh crisis which I think happens anyway uh through becoming a parent. Uh but it's through becoming a parent. Uh but it's through becoming a parent. Uh but it's especially for people who are used to especially for people who are used to especially for people who are used to knowing their bodies. Uh which is one of knowing their bodies. Uh which is one of knowing their bodies. Uh which is one of the plus uh pluses of fitness is you you the plus uh pluses of fitness is you you the plus uh pluses of fitness is you you really know your body. You know how to really know your body. You know how to really know your body. You know how to move. You know how to train muscles. You move. You know how to train muscles. You move. You know how to train muscles. You know what to do, how to make yourself know what to do, how to make yourself know what to do, how to make yourself stronger. And now you're in this stronger. And now you're in this stronger. And now you're in this position where you're almost forced and position where you're almost forced and position where you're almost forced and nobody likes to be forced. But I again nobody likes to be forced. But I again nobody likes to be forced. But I again I'm just going to tell you uh as a I'm just going to tell you uh as a I'm just going to tell you uh as a trainer uh I don't think you should do trainer uh I don't think you should do trainer uh I don't think you should do any strength training but I do think you any strength training but I do think you any strength training but I do think you should walk. And I also think you can should walk. And I also think you can should walk. And I also think you can overdo walking. So because the risk with overdo walking. So because the risk with overdo walking. So because the risk with someone like you who's walking is like someone like you who's walking is like someone like you who's walking is like fine I can't lift weights. I'm going to fine I can't lift weights. I'm going to fine I can't lift weights. I'm going to walk the hell out of myself. walk the hell out of myself. walk the hell out of myself. &gt;&gt; And you'll go walking uphill and you'll &gt;&gt; And you'll go walking uphill and you'll &gt;&gt; And you'll go walking uphill and you'll go on crazy hikes and you're going to go on crazy hikes and you're going to go on crazy hikes and you're going to try and turn the walks into workouts. try and turn the walks into workouts. try and turn the walks into workouts. So, I'm going to just go a little So, I'm going to just go a little So, I'm going to just go a little deeper. Uh, I don't think you should deeper. Uh, I don't think you should deeper. Uh, I don't think you should work out at all. work out at all. work out at all. &gt;&gt; I do think you should move, but none of &gt;&gt; I do think you should move, but none of &gt;&gt; I do think you should move, but none of it should feel like a workout because of it should feel like a workout because of it should feel like a workout because of the uh the situation that you're in. But the uh the situation that you're in. But the uh the situation that you're in. But again, after you have your baby and again, after you have your baby and again, after you have your baby and you're cleared to exercise, take it you're cleared to exercise, take it you're cleared to exercise, take it easy. Don't overdo it. I think MAP easy. Don't overdo it. I think MAP easy. Don't overdo it. I think MAP starter would be a great way to exercise starter would be a great way to exercise starter would be a great way to exercise post post post &gt;&gt; pardom and then be very gentle with &gt;&gt; pardom and then be very gentle with &gt;&gt; pardom and then be very gentle with yourself because your body knows what to yourself because your body knows what to yourself because your body knows what to do. You've got lots of muscle memory. do. You've got lots of muscle memory. do. You've got lots of muscle memory. Your body's worked out before, so you'll Your body's worked out before, so you'll Your body's worked out before, so you'll you'll you'll do a lot better than you'll you'll do a lot better than you'll you'll do a lot better than somebody who has never exercised. That's somebody who has never exercised. That's somebody who has never exercised. That's for sure. for sure. for sure. &gt;&gt; By the way, you look amazing. &gt;&gt; By the way, you look amazing. &gt;&gt; By the way, you look amazing. &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; you look you look Yeah, you look healthy &gt;&gt; you look you look Yeah, you look healthy &gt;&gt; you look you look Yeah, you look healthy and fit. So, you're going to be fine. and fit. So, you're going to be fine. and fit. So, you're going to be fine. You're going to do great. Let's have You're going to do great. Let's have You're going to do great. Let's have Let's go have a healthy baby and then Let's go have a healthy baby and then Let's go have a healthy baby and then we'll talk about what strength training we'll talk about what strength training we'll talk about what strength training and everything looks on the other side. and everything looks on the other side. and everything looks on the other side. You look great. You look great. You look great. &gt;&gt; So, there's I wouldn't I wouldn't want &gt;&gt; So, there's I wouldn't I wouldn't want &gt;&gt; So, there's I wouldn't I wouldn't want you [clears throat] doing anymore. It's you [clears throat] doing anymore. It's you [clears throat] doing anymore. It's It's all about taking care of that other It's all about taking care of that other It's all about taking care of that other life and making sure they're healthy. life and making sure they're healthy. life and making sure they're healthy. everything's your checkups are great everything's your checkups are great everything's your checkups are great &gt;&gt; and we'll worry about you will be you'll &gt;&gt; and we'll worry about you will be you'll &gt;&gt; and we'll worry about you will be you'll get in shape so easy and fast. get in shape so easy and fast. get in shape so easy and fast. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And it's also it's also like &gt;&gt; Yeah. And it's also it's also like &gt;&gt; Yeah. And it's also it's also like definitely about baby but it's also definitely about baby but it's also definitely about baby but it's also about mom. So if you train your body about mom. So if you train your body about mom. So if you train your body when it's doesn't when it's not going to when it's doesn't when it's not going to when it's doesn't when it's not going to respond well to stress which is probably respond well to stress which is probably respond well to stress which is probably the situation you're in uh you can make the situation you're in uh you can make the situation you're in uh you can make it harder for yourself later. it harder for yourself later. it harder for yourself later. So the recovery would be much harder So the recovery would be much harder So the recovery would be much harder later uh if you overcame your body. And later uh if you overcame your body. And later uh if you overcame your body. And don't judge this whole process like why don't judge this whole process like why don't judge this whole process like why can't I do this or whatever. It's like can't I do this or whatever. It's like can't I do this or whatever. It's like this is okay. This is where I'm at. I'm this is okay. This is where I'm at. I'm this is okay. This is where I'm at. I'm just going to just going to chill. My just going to just going to chill. My just going to just going to chill. My sister uh had to she had she had to be sister uh had to she had she had to be sister uh had to she had she had to be in bed for pretty much the entire last in bed for pretty much the entire last in bed for pretty much the entire last trimester of one of her pregnancies. trimester of one of her pregnancies. trimester of one of her pregnancies. They said you have to stay in bed, which They said you have to stay in bed, which They said you have to stay in bed, which for my sister is like she's like a she's for my sister is like she's like a she's for my sister is like she's like a she's a machine. She's always moving, always a machine. She's always moving, always a machine. She's always moving, always working, always doing things. It was working, always doing things. It was working, always doing things. It was very difficult, but you know, now her very difficult, but you know, now her very difficult, but you know, now her kid now that the the kid I'm talking kid now that the the kid I'm talking kid now that the the kid I'm talking about now is 10 and she's doing uh about now is 10 and she's doing uh about now is 10 and she's doing uh phenomenal. So, so yeah, I'm maybe not phenomenal. So, so yeah, I'm maybe not phenomenal. So, so yeah, I'm maybe not the answer you wanted from us. Uh but uh the answer you wanted from us. Uh but uh the answer you wanted from us. Uh but uh definitely I strongly strongly believe definitely I strongly strongly believe definitely I strongly strongly believe this that what we're saying is what you this that what we're saying is what you this that what we're saying is what you need to do. need to do. need to do. &gt;&gt; No, and I appreciate that and that's &gt;&gt; No, and I appreciate that and that's &gt;&gt; No, and I appreciate that and that's largely what I've been doing. Um two largely what I've been doing. Um two largely what I've been doing. Um two quick follow-up questions. Is there a quick follow-up questions. Is there a quick follow-up questions. Is there a step count that I should be kind of step count that I should be kind of step count that I should be kind of aiming for? I mean just the usual 8 to aiming for? I mean just the usual 8 to aiming for? I mean just the usual 8 to 10 um or um you know, do you have 10 um or um you know, do you have 10 um or um you know, do you have another suggestion with that? another suggestion with that? another suggestion with that? &gt;&gt; Uh with you this is different. &gt;&gt; Uh with you this is different. &gt;&gt; Uh with you this is different. &gt;&gt; Yep. I'm going to give &gt;&gt; Yep. I'm going to give &gt;&gt; Yep. I'm going to give &gt;&gt; that's how you feel. &gt;&gt; that's how you feel. &gt;&gt; that's how you feel. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm going to give you two answers. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm going to give you two answers. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm going to give you two answers. Uh, so, um, I would like you to just to Uh, so, um, I would like you to just to Uh, so, um, I would like you to just to walk to just to enjoy the walk. walk to just to enjoy the walk. walk to just to enjoy the walk. &gt;&gt; Pay attention. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Pay attention. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Pay attention. Yeah. &gt;&gt; It's not going to be a workout. If you &gt;&gt; It's not going to be a workout. If you &gt;&gt; It's not going to be a workout. If you start to feel a little tired, like you start to feel a little tired, like you start to feel a little tired, like you went too far. went too far. went too far. &gt;&gt; Um, what are you averaging now in your &gt;&gt; Um, what are you averaging now in your &gt;&gt; Um, what are you averaging now in your steps? steps? steps? &gt;&gt; About 8,000, but that's a lot of work &gt;&gt; About 8,000, but that's a lot of work &gt;&gt; About 8,000, but that's a lot of work just because of my job and I'm pretty just because of my job and I'm pretty just because of my job and I'm pretty sedentary. So, I mean, that's putting sedentary. So, I mean, that's putting sedentary. So, I mean, that's putting in, you know, extra walks with the dogs, in, you know, extra walks with the dogs, in, you know, extra walks with the dogs, extra steps, um, just, you know, around extra steps, um, just, you know, around extra steps, um, just, you know, around my meal times and whatnot. my meal times and whatnot. my meal times and whatnot. &gt;&gt; Thank you so much for your honesty. So, &gt;&gt; Thank you so much for your honesty. So, &gt;&gt; Thank you so much for your honesty. So, I'll give you a number that you can't go I'll give you a number that you can't go I'll give you a number that you can't go above 6,000. That's your max. above 6,000. That's your max. above 6,000. That's your max. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Like that's the limit. You're not &gt;&gt; Like that's the limit. You're not &gt;&gt; Like that's the limit. You're not allowed to go above 6,000. allowed to go above 6,000. allowed to go above 6,000. &gt;&gt; Yeah. [clears throat] &gt;&gt; Yeah. [clears throat] &gt;&gt; Yeah. [clears throat] &gt;&gt; And some days that's all I get anyway. &gt;&gt; And some days that's all I get anyway. &gt;&gt; And some days that's all I get anyway. So, So, So, &gt;&gt; and that's that's your that's your max. &gt;&gt; and that's that's your that's your max. &gt;&gt; and that's that's your that's your max. That's your speed limit right there. That's your speed limit right there. That's your speed limit right there. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Okay. All right. &gt;&gt; Okay. All right. &gt;&gt; Okay. All right. &gt;&gt; I can handle that. And then my other &gt;&gt; I can handle that. And then my other &gt;&gt; I can handle that. And then my other question is just like mobility. You question is just like mobility. You question is just like mobility. You know, I see a lot of like I don't want know, I see a lot of like I don't want know, I see a lot of like I don't want to say the Tik Toks, but you know, to say the Tik Toks, but you know, to say the Tik Toks, but you know, pelvic floor therapists talking about pelvic floor therapists talking about pelvic floor therapists talking about just like hip opening exercises and just like hip opening exercises and just like hip opening exercises and things like that. Is there anything that things like that. Is there anything that things like that. Is there anything that I could be doing like stretching wise? I could be doing like stretching wise? I could be doing like stretching wise? Um, again, not a workout. We're not Um, again, not a workout. We're not Um, again, not a workout. We're not overdoing any of that, but just overdoing any of that, but just overdoing any of that, but just preparing for labor. preparing for labor. preparing for labor. &gt;&gt; You have to be careful with stretching &gt;&gt; You have to be careful with stretching &gt;&gt; You have to be careful with stretching when you're pregnant. Uh, because you're when you're pregnant. Uh, because you're when you're pregnant. Uh, because you're um you're much more flexible at least um you're much more flexible at least um you're much more flexible at least your ligaments elastic. Yeah. your ligaments elastic. Yeah. your ligaments elastic. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Especially sort towards the end. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Especially sort towards the end. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Especially sort towards the end. In fact, stretching can cause problems In fact, stretching can cause problems In fact, stretching can cause problems later on uh with um you know, pelvic uh later on uh with um you know, pelvic uh later on uh with um you know, pelvic uh floor issues and pain. So, um no floor issues and pain. So, um no floor issues and pain. So, um no stretching. Um, but if you start to feel stretching. Um, but if you start to feel stretching. Um, but if you start to feel pain, then I would suggest you talk to a pain, then I would suggest you talk to a pain, then I would suggest you talk to a specialist and then they can give you specialist and then they can give you specialist and then they can give you some movements to help you. So, some movements to help you. So, some movements to help you. So, sometimes women will have pain in their sometimes women will have pain in their sometimes women will have pain in their pelvis. Uh, or they'll feel that kind of pelvis. Uh, or they'll feel that kind of pelvis. Uh, or they'll feel that kind of lightning shooting pain that comes maybe lightning shooting pain that comes maybe lightning shooting pain that comes maybe towards the third trimester as things towards the third trimester as things towards the third trimester as things are starting to loosen up. In which are starting to loosen up. In which are starting to loosen up. In which case, I would refer back to your your case, I would refer back to your your case, I would refer back to your your medical professional say, "Okay, what medical professional say, "Okay, what medical professional say, "Okay, what are some things I can do because I'm are some things I can do because I'm are some things I can do because I'm starting to hurt?" Uh, but until then, I starting to hurt?" Uh, but until then, I starting to hurt?" Uh, but until then, I would like nothing like don't don't try would like nothing like don't don't try would like nothing like don't don't try to go chase uh anything with mobility. to go chase uh anything with mobility. to go chase uh anything with mobility. just, you know, walk limit it to 6,000 just, you know, walk limit it to 6,000 just, you know, walk limit it to 6,000 steps. Um, and um, yeah, and enjoy this steps. Um, and um, yeah, and enjoy this steps. Um, and um, yeah, and enjoy this little break. little break. little break. &gt;&gt; Okay. Well, it's definitely been a &gt;&gt; Okay. Well, it's definitely been a &gt;&gt; Okay. Well, it's definitely been a break. Um, you guys have come out with break. Um, you guys have come out with break. Um, you guys have come out with so many programs during this time. I so many programs during this time. I so many programs during this time. I [laughter] can't wait to try them all [laughter] can't wait to try them all [laughter] can't wait to try them all once um, baby's here and everybody's once um, baby's here and everybody's once um, baby's here and everybody's healthy. healthy. healthy. &gt;&gt; Awesome. I'd love to hear back from you &gt;&gt; Awesome. I'd love to hear back from you &gt;&gt; Awesome. I'd love to hear back from you when the baby's back. when the baby's back. when the baby's back. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would, too. Final trimester. We &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would, too. Final trimester. We &gt;&gt; Yeah, I would, too. Final trimester. We got this. got this. got this. &gt;&gt; Okay. Thank you guys, Ky. &gt;&gt; Okay. Thank you guys, Ky. &gt;&gt; Okay. Thank you guys, Ky. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. She's She's like, "Oh, I want you." I She's She's like, "Oh, I want you." I She's She's like, "Oh, I want you." I mean, she look she's heading into her mean, she look she's heading into her mean, she look she's heading into her third trimester. She looks great. She third trimester. She looks great. She third trimester. She looks great. She does look great. does look great. does look great. &gt;&gt; Pregnancy is so hard. Could you imagine &gt;&gt; Pregnancy is so hard. Could you imagine &gt;&gt; Pregnancy is so hard. Could you imagine like lo like what's one of my like lo like what's one of my like lo like what's one of my &gt;&gt; It's like releasing control like you &gt;&gt; It's like releasing control like you &gt;&gt; It's like releasing control like you said. It's so hard cuz like especially said. It's so hard cuz like especially said. It's so hard cuz like especially for fit people that have that ability to for fit people that have that ability to for fit people that have that ability to show up and you know like improve their show up and you know like improve their show up and you know like improve their body and body and body and &gt;&gt; and then I hate listen I hate social &gt;&gt; and then I hate listen I hate social &gt;&gt; and then I hate listen I hate social media for a lot of different reason media for a lot of different reason media for a lot of different reason things. I really hate it for pregnancy things. I really hate it for pregnancy things. I really hate it for pregnancy because what you end up seeing because what you end up seeing because what you end up seeing highlighted are women doing CrossFit and highlighted are women doing CrossFit and highlighted are women doing CrossFit and marathons and you know, hey, I had my marathons and you know, hey, I had my marathons and you know, hey, I had my baby two months ago, I have abs. And so baby two months ago, I have abs. And so baby two months ago, I have abs. And so then women look at this, they're like, then women look at this, they're like, then women look at this, they're like, what's going on? What's wrong with what's going on? What's wrong with what's going on? What's wrong with what's wrong with me? what's wrong with me? what's wrong with me? &gt;&gt; And it's like that is not that's just &gt;&gt; And it's like that is not that's just &gt;&gt; And it's like that is not that's just insane. insane. insane. &gt;&gt; Nothing to do with you. &gt;&gt; Nothing to do with you. &gt;&gt; Nothing to do with you. &gt;&gt; I mean, uh, also add the fact so you &gt;&gt; I mean, uh, also add the fact so you &gt;&gt; I mean, uh, also add the fact so you remember how she started this, you know, remember how she started this, you know, remember how she started this, you know, she's been listening for a long time. she's been listening for a long time. she's been listening for a long time. She took all the advice on she She took all the advice on she She took all the advice on she intentionally put on intentionally put on intentionally put on &gt;&gt; I know almost 30 pounds in order to get &gt;&gt; I know almost 30 pounds in order to get &gt;&gt; I know almost 30 pounds in order to get pregnant. pregnant. pregnant. &gt;&gt; In order to get pregnant, right? And so &gt;&gt; In order to get pregnant, right? And so &gt;&gt; In order to get pregnant, right? And so uh you imagine coming from 30 lbs uh uh you imagine coming from 30 lbs uh uh you imagine coming from 30 lbs uh lighter fit, you had to put on that body lighter fit, you had to put on that body lighter fit, you had to put on that body fat so you could get have a baby. Then fat so you could get have a baby. Then fat so you could get have a baby. Then you have a baby and then you're starting you have a baby and then you're starting you have a baby and then you're starting to grow a baby. So then you So her body to grow a baby. So then you So her body to grow a baby. So then you So her body in the last year has radically changed in the last year has radically changed in the last year has radically changed for her transformation. for her transformation. for her transformation. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So she actually's got really I &gt;&gt; Yeah. So she actually's got really I &gt;&gt; Yeah. So she actually's got really I think she's got good self-awareness. think she's got good self-awareness. think she's got good self-awareness. She's totally open about what she's I She's totally open about what she's I She's totally open about what she's I think she's going to be good. She think she's going to be good. She think she's going to be good. She &gt;&gt; you know even when she asked how many &gt;&gt; you know even when she asked how many &gt;&gt; you know even when she asked how many steps she'll rebound steps she'll rebound steps she'll rebound &gt;&gt; I had I knew I had to ask her how many &gt;&gt; I had I knew I had to ask her how many &gt;&gt; I had I knew I had to ask her how many she was currently taking because I'm she was currently taking because I'm she was currently taking because I'm like I'm gonna I'm not going to give you like I'm gonna I'm not going to give you like I'm gonna I'm not going to give you a number. I want to know what you're a number. I want to know what you're a number. I want to know what you're trying to hit right now. trying to hit right now. trying to hit right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And [clears throat] uh and let's scale &gt;&gt; And [clears throat] uh and let's scale &gt;&gt; And [clears throat] uh and let's scale it down for it down for it down for &gt;&gt; I know that sounds so different because &gt;&gt; I know that sounds so different because &gt;&gt; I know that sounds so different because we have and this is I mean this is what we have and this is I mean this is what we have and this is I mean this is what um real coaching looks like is like the um real coaching looks like is like the um real coaching looks like is like the that was different advice than we give that was different advice than we give that was different advice than we give to a lot of their people but to a lot of their people but to a lot of their people but &gt;&gt; her situation um that is risk assessment &gt;&gt; her situation um that is risk assessment &gt;&gt; her situation um that is risk assessment right now. right now. right now. &gt;&gt; I had I had a woman I train &gt;&gt; I had I had a woman I train &gt;&gt; I had I had a woman I train &gt;&gt; and in her first trimester she couldn't &gt;&gt; and in her first trimester she couldn't &gt;&gt; and in her first trimester she couldn't come to her sessions. She would show up come to her sessions. She would show up come to her sessions. She would show up like one out of three appointments cuz like one out of three appointments cuz like one out of three appointments cuz she was so nauseous. Second trimester she was so nauseous. Second trimester she was so nauseous. Second trimester she'd show up we do a little exercise. she'd show up we do a little exercise. she'd show up we do a little exercise. third trimester, she'd show up and I'd third trimester, she'd show up and I'd third trimester, she'd show up and I'd massage her. massage her. massage her. &gt;&gt; I'd work on her traps and then we might &gt;&gt; I'd work on her traps and then we might &gt;&gt; I'd work on her traps and then we might deal with something or sometimes it was deal with something or sometimes it was deal with something or sometimes it was nothing and it was just it was good for nothing and it was just it was good for nothing and it was just it was good for her just to show up and this was an her just to show up and this was an her just to show up and this was an exathlete and of course baby was healthy exathlete and of course baby was healthy exathlete and of course baby was healthy afterwards and we got to exercise after afterwards and we got to exercise after afterwards and we got to exercise after and it was it was amazing but it was and it was it was amazing but it was and it was it was amazing but it was really challenging for her. really challenging for her. really challenging for her. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Karen from the UK. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Karen from the UK. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Karen from the UK. &gt;&gt; How you doing? &gt;&gt; How you doing? &gt;&gt; How you doing? &gt;&gt; Hi guys. Thanks for having me back on. &gt;&gt; Hi guys. Thanks for having me back on. &gt;&gt; Hi guys. Thanks for having me back on. Nice to see you again. Nice to see you again. Nice to see you again. &gt;&gt; Yeah, if I recall you you were like a &gt;&gt; Yeah, if I recall you you were like a &gt;&gt; Yeah, if I recall you you were like a performer, right? Like you sang on stage performer, right? Like you sang on stage performer, right? Like you sang on stage and That's right. Spot on. Yes. and That's right. Spot on. Yes. and That's right. Spot on. Yes. &gt;&gt; Wonderful. Yeah. Welcome back. All &gt;&gt; Wonderful. Yeah. Welcome back. All &gt;&gt; Wonderful. Yeah. Welcome back. All right. Cool. So, let us know what's right. Cool. So, let us know what's right. Cool. So, let us know what's going on. going on. going on. &gt;&gt; Right. Okay. I'm just going to read it &gt;&gt; Right. Okay. I'm just going to read it &gt;&gt; Right. Okay. I'm just going to read it up here again. up here again. up here again. &gt;&gt; Right. Um Okay. So, um so I increased &gt;&gt; Right. Um Okay. So, um so I increased &gt;&gt; Right. Um Okay. So, um so I increased back up to 2,600 like you advised cuz back up to 2,600 like you advised cuz back up to 2,600 like you advised cuz when I'm told to do something and I'm do when I'm told to do something and I'm do when I'm told to do something and I'm do it. So, I got straight back on it. I it. So, I got straight back on it. I it. So, I got straight back on it. I went and moved to Matt Strong. Got to went and moved to Matt Strong. Got to went and moved to Matt Strong. Got to say by far of all the programs I've done say by far of all the programs I've done say by far of all the programs I've done of yours, love it. Absolutely love Matt of yours, love it. Absolutely love Matt of yours, love it. Absolutely love Matt Strong. So, so got through phase one, Strong. So, so got through phase one, Strong. So, so got through phase one, uh, fine. Didn't really see anything uh, fine. Didn't really see anything uh, fine. Didn't really see anything massively change. It wasn't until I got massively change. It wasn't until I got massively change. It wasn't until I got to about phase two that I started to see to about phase two that I started to see to about phase two that I started to see things clicking into place a little bit. things clicking into place a little bit. things clicking into place a little bit. Like the 8 to 10 rep range, started to Like the 8 to 10 rep range, started to Like the 8 to 10 rep range, started to feel noticeably stronger. My lifts began feel noticeably stronger. My lifts began feel noticeably stronger. My lifts began increasing. I started to feel more increasing. I started to feel more increasing. I started to feel more confident. I kind of I kind of decided confident. I kind of I kind of decided confident. I kind of I kind of decided just to think, well, sod what everybody just to think, well, sod what everybody just to think, well, sod what everybody else is saying. I'm just going to focus else is saying. I'm just going to focus else is saying. I'm just going to focus on how I feel and what my strength is on how I feel and what my strength is on how I feel and what my strength is like and not worry about anything else. like and not worry about anything else. like and not worry about anything else. So, yeah. you know, you know, screw So, yeah. you know, you know, screw So, yeah. you know, you know, screw everybody's opinions. So, which was everybody's opinions. So, which was everybody's opinions. So, which was quite freeing really. Um, quite freeing really. Um, quite freeing really. Um, generally my clothes were fitting about generally my clothes were fitting about generally my clothes were fitting about the same. So, I was thinking, well, the same. So, I was thinking, well, the same. So, I was thinking, well, that's what I expected. I have not that's what I expected. I have not that's what I expected. I have not weighed myself until literally just weighed myself until literally just weighed myself until literally just before speaking to you again. I've not before speaking to you again. I've not before speaking to you again. I've not weighed myself at all. Um, so I haven't weighed myself at all. Um, so I haven't weighed myself at all. Um, so I haven't and I've got the inbody, so I've not and I've got the inbody, so I've not and I've got the inbody, so I've not been on it at all. So, it's been quite been on it at all. So, it's been quite been on it at all. So, it's been quite freeing really not to have to do that in freeing really not to have to do that in freeing really not to have to do that in a sense. So, that's been good. Um, I hit a sense. So, that's been good. Um, I hit a sense. So, that's been good. Um, I hit a bit of a setback. Couple of weeks into a bit of a setback. Couple of weeks into a bit of a setback. Couple of weeks into phase two, I got gastric flu. phase two, I got gastric flu. phase two, I got gastric flu. &gt;&gt; Pretty horrendous. Um, and I usually eat &gt;&gt; Pretty horrendous. Um, and I usually eat &gt;&gt; Pretty horrendous. Um, and I usually eat through anything. Nothing stops me through anything. Nothing stops me through anything. Nothing stops me eating, but I couldn't physically eating, but I couldn't physically eating, but I couldn't physically couldn't eat hardly. So, my calorie couldn't eat hardly. So, my calorie couldn't eat hardly. So, my calorie dropped to about 900 and it was all dropped to about 900 and it was all dropped to about 900 and it was all beige. Yeah. beige. Yeah. beige. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Um, literally carbs cuz I couldn't eat &gt;&gt; Um, literally carbs cuz I couldn't eat &gt;&gt; Um, literally carbs cuz I couldn't eat any protein or anything. And I'd tried, any protein or anything. And I'd tried, any protein or anything. And I'd tried, but it's made me more unwell. Um, so it but it's made me more unwell. Um, so it but it's made me more unwell. Um, so it took me a couple of weeks to get back up took me a couple of weeks to get back up took me a couple of weeks to get back up again, but I've pushed myself back up to again, but I've pushed myself back up to again, but I've pushed myself back up to 26 again. had to stop training for a 26 again. had to stop training for a 26 again. had to stop training for a week. Didn't didn't think it was right week. Didn't didn't think it was right week. Didn't didn't think it was right to do anything. Um, and then eased to do anything. Um, and then eased to do anything. Um, and then eased myself back in the following week going myself back in the following week going myself back in the following week going lighter and concentrating on form more lighter and concentrating on form more lighter and concentrating on form more than pushing the weight too much. So, it than pushing the weight too much. So, it than pushing the weight too much. So, it took me I did an extra couple of weeks took me I did an extra couple of weeks took me I did an extra couple of weeks of phase two because I knew phase three of phase two because I knew phase three of phase two because I knew phase three was going to hit a lot harder for me, was going to hit a lot harder for me, was going to hit a lot harder for me, even though favorite phase really is the even though favorite phase really is the even though favorite phase really is the pushing as hard as I can for, you know, pushing as hard as I can for, you know, pushing as hard as I can for, you know, less reps. So, um I thought I was less reps. So, um I thought I was less reps. So, um I thought I was recovering really well and I went into recovering really well and I went into recovering really well and I went into phase three really excited about it. Um phase three really excited about it. Um phase three really excited about it. Um and then I developed so sort of like a and then I developed so sort of like a and then I developed so sort of like a shoulder issue. It started to hurt. Um shoulder issue. It started to hurt. Um shoulder issue. It started to hurt. Um and I was like, "Oh god, what have I and I was like, "Oh god, what have I and I was like, "Oh god, what have I done?" Um so I decided to sort of adjust done?" Um so I decided to sort of adjust done?" Um so I decided to sort of adjust my training. I sort of took anything out my training. I sort of took anything out my training. I sort of took anything out that involved pressing above my head cuz that involved pressing above my head cuz that involved pressing above my head cuz it because of the discomfort and just it because of the discomfort and just it because of the discomfort and just focused more on rows and curls and focused more on rows and curls and focused more on rows and curls and things which didn't hurt me cuz I didn't things which didn't hurt me cuz I didn't things which didn't hurt me cuz I didn't know what else to do about it. and I know what else to do about it. and I know what else to do about it. and I just maybe focused a bit more on the just maybe focused a bit more on the just maybe focused a bit more on the bottom of my body. Um, so I did get bottom of my body. Um, so I did get bottom of my body. Um, so I did get through the whole of strong, but I felt through the whole of strong, but I felt through the whole of strong, but I felt like it hindered me slightly and I I I like it hindered me slightly and I I I like it hindered me slightly and I I I hadn't been able to do it exactly as set hadn't been able to do it exactly as set hadn't been able to do it exactly as set out. I just to try to see myself through out. I just to try to see myself through out. I just to try to see myself through as best as possible really because I as best as possible really because I as best as possible really because I didn't want to give up on it after how didn't want to give up on it after how didn't want to give up on it after how far I've come. Um, my my improvements far I've come. Um, my my improvements far I've come. Um, my my improvements and my positives from all this. Um, my and my positives from all this. Um, my and my positives from all this. Um, my squat went up about 8 lb, bench press up squat went up about 8 lb, bench press up squat went up about 8 lb, bench press up about 22, which is what's really about 22, which is what's really about 22, which is what's really annoying. So, I felt like I really annoying. So, I felt like I really annoying. So, I felt like I really really did well with that one. Hip really did well with that one. Hip really did well with that one. Hip thrust up about 33. So, I you know, I'm thrust up about 33. So, I you know, I'm thrust up about 33. So, I you know, I'm doing it all from home. It's quite hard doing it all from home. It's quite hard doing it all from home. It's quite hard to get up with, you know, when I'm just to get up with, you know, when I'm just to get up with, you know, when I'm just trying to push it up myself. It's it's trying to push it up myself. It's it's trying to push it up myself. It's it's quite hard to push that amount of weight quite hard to push that amount of weight quite hard to push that amount of weight on my own sort of without machines or on my own sort of without machines or on my own sort of without machines or anything, I think. But, I'm really anything, I think. But, I'm really anything, I think. But, I'm really pleased with that one. And my deadlifts pleased with that one. And my deadlifts pleased with that one. And my deadlifts up about 11 pounds as well. So, I feel up about 11 pounds as well. So, I feel up about 11 pounds as well. So, I feel like strength wise, I've done really like strength wise, I've done really like strength wise, I've done really well. Um, I can see some more muscle well. Um, I can see some more muscle well. Um, I can see some more muscle definition. I can definitely see it in definition. I can definitely see it in definition. I can definitely see it in my arms. I can feel it. Um, so that's my arms. I can feel it. Um, so that's my arms. I can feel it. Um, so that's really good. Um, weight wise I've popped really good. Um, weight wise I've popped really good. Um, weight wise I've popped up a little bit. Muscle's about the up a little bit. Muscle's about the up a little bit. Muscle's about the same. Fat's up a little bit. Um, but I same. Fat's up a little bit. Um, but I same. Fat's up a little bit. Um, but I don't know whether that's because of don't know whether that's because of don't know whether that's because of what's happened in between all of it what's happened in between all of it what's happened in between all of it really that it's pushed me back a little really that it's pushed me back a little really that it's pushed me back a little bit. Um, but I'm just really pleased bit. Um, but I'm just really pleased bit. Um, but I'm just really pleased that I didn't track my weight. I stopped that I didn't track my weight. I stopped that I didn't track my weight. I stopped tracking my sleep as well cuz I actually tracking my sleep as well cuz I actually tracking my sleep as well cuz I actually found doing that put me more stressed found doing that put me more stressed found doing that put me more stressed about my sleep. I'm now sleeping really about my sleep. I'm now sleeping really about my sleep. I'm now sleeping really well. Um, my progesterone is continuous. well. Um, my progesterone is continuous. well. Um, my progesterone is continuous. All of that has leveled out massively. All of that has leveled out massively. All of that has leveled out massively. So, hormonally, I'm in a really good So, hormonally, I'm in a really good So, hormonally, I'm in a really good place. Um, I just feel like I just I place. Um, I just feel like I just I place. Um, I just feel like I just I feel a LOT BETTER IN MY CONFIDENCE, feel a LOT BETTER IN MY CONFIDENCE, feel a LOT BETTER IN MY CONFIDENCE, which is what I was aiming for is to which is what I was aiming for is to which is what I was aiming for is to stop worrying about everything so much. stop worrying about everything so much. stop worrying about everything so much. But, um, I just think that I do feel But, um, I just think that I do feel But, um, I just think that I do feel like I'm ready for a cut. I I have got like I'm ready for a cut. I I have got like I'm ready for a cut. I I have got to that sort of point where I feel like to that sort of point where I feel like to that sort of point where I feel like I need a break. I don't know if it's the I need a break. I don't know if it's the I need a break. I don't know if it's the injury. Clothes are really been a injury. Clothes are really been a injury. Clothes are really been a struggle. I um I do a wartime show and I struggle. I um I do a wartime show and I struggle. I um I do a wartime show and I have to wear a war like army uniform and have to wear a war like army uniform and have to wear a war like army uniform and I've got one that I've had for years and I've got one that I've had for years and I've got one that I've had for years and I put it on and I was like, "Oh Jesus, I put it on and I was like, "Oh Jesus, I put it on and I was like, "Oh Jesus, this is like the skirt is like maybe a this is like the skirt is like maybe a this is like the skirt is like maybe a bit too short." Now bit too short." Now bit too short." Now &gt;&gt; I went into a care home and well, okay, &gt;&gt; I went into a care home and well, okay, &gt;&gt; I went into a care home and well, okay, I couldn't bend over to put all my I couldn't bend over to put all my I couldn't bend over to put all my cables in cuz I was a bit worried about cables in cuz I was a bit worried about cables in cuz I was a bit worried about giving everybody a heart attack. giving everybody a heart attack. giving everybody a heart attack. &gt;&gt; [laughter] &gt;&gt; [laughter] &gt;&gt; [laughter] &gt;&gt; Um and and one fell on the way out &gt;&gt; Um and and one fell on the way out &gt;&gt; Um and and one fell on the way out though said to me, "I like your skirt." though said to me, "I like your skirt." though said to me, "I like your skirt." He said, "But next time it needs to be a He said, "But next time it needs to be a He said, "But next time it needs to be a bit shorter." And I was like, "Yeah, bit shorter." And I was like, "Yeah, bit shorter." And I was like, "Yeah, [laughter] &gt;&gt; you got to love these residents. They've &gt;&gt; you got to love these residents. They've got great." So, got great." So, got great." So, &gt;&gt; it sort of got to the point where I've &gt;&gt; it sort of got to the point where I've &gt;&gt; it sort of got to the point where I've loved this whole process. I've really loved this whole process. I've really loved this whole process. I've really embraced it and I knew I had to come embraced it and I knew I had to come embraced it and I knew I had to come back and speak to you again, but the back and speak to you again, but the back and speak to you again, but the body fat has gone up a little bit and I body fat has gone up a little bit and I body fat has gone up a little bit and I think if you can see in my photographs, think if you can see in my photographs, think if you can see in my photographs, I feel like I'm fuller. I definitely I feel like I'm fuller. I definitely I feel like I'm fuller. I definitely feel stronger, but it's not shown in my feel stronger, but it's not shown in my feel stronger, but it's not shown in my inbody results. inbody results. inbody results. But I I feel like I need that break um But I I feel like I need that break um But I I feel like I need that break um just to try and shave off some body fat just to try and shave off some body fat just to try and shave off some body fat for a little bit because I'm going into for a little bit because I'm going into for a little bit because I'm going into summer and I'm I'm wearing the same two summer and I'm I'm wearing the same two summer and I'm I'm wearing the same two outfits all the time and I I just need outfits all the time and I I just need outfits all the time and I I just need that break really. Um I was planning to that break really. Um I was planning to that break really. Um I was planning to go to 21 from 26 with 130 grams of go to 21 from 26 with 130 grams of go to 21 from 26 with 130 grams of protein, 75 grams of fat and make the protein, 75 grams of fat and make the protein, 75 grams of fat and make the rest up with carbs. I was going to I rest up with carbs. I was going to I rest up with carbs. I was going to I want to go on to Muscle Mommy 15 because want to go on to Muscle Mommy 15 because want to go on to Muscle Mommy 15 because um of my studying I'm going to start um of my studying I'm going to start um of my studying I'm going to start doing. Well, I've already started doing doing. Well, I've already started doing doing. Well, I've already started doing it. It just allows me more time to it. It just allows me more time to it. It just allows me more time to because the strong takes up quite a lot because the strong takes up quite a lot because the strong takes up quite a lot of my time. Um because it's five days of my time. Um because it's five days of my time. Um because it's five days really, isn't it? And I love it, but really, isn't it? And I love it, but really, isn't it? And I love it, but it's sort of I need more time to be able it's sort of I need more time to be able it's sort of I need more time to be able to study. Um and I just want to do a cut to study. Um and I just want to do a cut to study. Um and I just want to do a cut over the summer, but I do plan then to over the summer, but I do plan then to over the summer, but I do plan then to reverse diet back after the 3 months reverse diet back after the 3 months reverse diet back after the 3 months back up again. And I just wanted your back up again. And I just wanted your back up again. And I just wanted your advice and whether you thought that advice and whether you thought that advice and whether you thought that sounded okay and what you would sort of sounded okay and what you would sort of sounded okay and what you would sort of suggest programwise that I go into to suggest programwise that I go into to suggest programwise that I go into to reverse back diet cuz I love strong. So reverse back diet cuz I love strong. So reverse back diet cuz I love strong. So that sort of program whether something that sort of program whether something that sort of program whether something along those lines would be right for me. along those lines would be right for me. along those lines would be right for me. But um I also want to say thank you But um I also want to say thank you But um I also want to say thank you because I've obviously I just done my because I've obviously I just done my because I've obviously I just done my another nutrition exam that I wanted to another nutrition exam that I wanted to another nutrition exam that I wanted to get my level five. But after everything get my level five. But after everything get my level five. But after everything I discussed with you, I love my singing, I discussed with you, I love my singing, I discussed with you, I love my singing, but I've realized that longterm I don't but I've realized that longterm I don't but I've realized that longterm I don't want to do it forever. Um and I then want to do it forever. Um and I then want to do it forever. Um and I then decided to sign up to become a personal decided to sign up to become a personal decided to sign up to become a personal trainer. trainer. trainer. &gt;&gt; [gasps] &gt;&gt; [gasps] &gt;&gt; [gasps] &gt;&gt; So, I feel like it's what's missing &gt;&gt; So, I feel like it's what's missing &gt;&gt; So, I feel like it's what's missing because I advise people day in day out because I advise people day in day out because I advise people day in day out about their food intake and their about their food intake and their about their food intake and their nutrition, their health, and I'm telling nutrition, their health, and I'm telling nutrition, their health, and I'm telling them what they should be doing exercise them what they should be doing exercise them what they should be doing exercise exercise wise, but I can't physically do exercise wise, but I can't physically do exercise wise, but I can't physically do it with them, and that's what I feel is it with them, and that's what I feel is it with them, and that's what I feel is missing. I want to actually be able to missing. I want to actually be able to missing. I want to actually be able to help them with that. So, you know, help them with that. So, you know, help them with that. So, you know, that's what I've decided to do. So, now that's what I've decided to do. So, now that's what I've decided to do. So, now I've started training to be a PT. That's I've started training to be a PT. That's I've started training to be a PT. That's my next thing. So, I just appreciate my next thing. So, I just appreciate my next thing. So, I just appreciate your advice um on what I've said. your advice um on what I've said. your advice um on what I've said. Basically, I think that's Basically, I think that's Basically, I think that's &gt;&gt; You did a great job. Yeah, I definitely &gt;&gt; You did a great job. Yeah, I definitely &gt;&gt; You did a great job. Yeah, I definitely think your in body is a little off. I'm think your in body is a little off. I'm think your in body is a little off. I'm looking at your pictures right now. Uh I looking at your pictures right now. Uh I looking at your pictures right now. Uh I mean, you I can only imagine you you can mean, you I can only imagine you you can mean, you I can only imagine you you can see that and feel that, right? I mean, see that and feel that, right? I mean, see that and feel that, right? I mean, I'm I'm I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah, I can feel it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I can feel it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I can feel it. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I can see it. Your back Your back &gt;&gt; Yeah, I can see it. Your back Your back &gt;&gt; Yeah, I can see it. Your back Your back looks looks looks &gt;&gt; You look like you built muscle and you &gt;&gt; You look like you built muscle and you &gt;&gt; You look like you built muscle and you look smaller. There's one picture. look smaller. There's one picture. look smaller. There's one picture. &gt;&gt; Your eyes getting bigger. &gt;&gt; Your eyes getting bigger. &gt;&gt; Your eyes getting bigger. &gt;&gt; No, no, no, no, no. There's a picture &gt;&gt; No, no, no, no, no. There's a picture &gt;&gt; No, no, no, no, no. There's a picture you sent. The one on the left is before, you sent. The one on the left is before, you sent. The one on the left is before, right? That's the before, right? That's the before, right? That's the before, &gt;&gt; Doug. No, no, that's after. &gt;&gt; Doug. No, no, that's after. &gt;&gt; Doug. No, no, that's after. &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. So, you you did build a &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. So, you you did build a &gt;&gt; Okay. Okay. So, you you did build a little bit of muscle. You might have little bit of muscle. You might have little bit of muscle. You might have gained a little. So, I think what you're gained a little. So, I think what you're gained a little. So, I think what you're going is perfect with the cut. I think going is perfect with the cut. I think going is perfect with the cut. I think 2100 calories is absolutely perfect with 2100 calories is absolutely perfect with 2100 calories is absolutely perfect with the cut. No problem. I would like to see the cut. No problem. I would like to see the cut. No problem. I would like to see you do Maps 15 symmetry because of your you do Maps 15 symmetry because of your you do Maps 15 symmetry because of your shoulder pain. shoulder pain. shoulder pain. &gt;&gt; Right. I did wonder if you might say &gt;&gt; Right. I did wonder if you might say &gt;&gt; Right. I did wonder if you might say that. I've got symmetry program. I just that. I've got symmetry program. I just that. I've got symmetry program. I just don't have the 15. don't have the 15. don't have the 15. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; I don't know if I can cut it up at all. &gt;&gt; I don't know if I can cut it up at all. &gt;&gt; I don't know if I can cut it up at all. Um, Um, Um, &gt;&gt; so maps 15 symmetry. We actually have a &gt;&gt; so maps 15 symmetry. We actually have a &gt;&gt; so maps 15 symmetry. We actually have a 15 version of symmetry. 15 version of symmetry. 15 version of symmetry. &gt;&gt; Ah, right. Okay. &gt;&gt; Ah, right. Okay. &gt;&gt; Ah, right. Okay. &gt;&gt; And I think that'll be good for your &gt;&gt; And I think that'll be good for your &gt;&gt; And I think that'll be good for your shoulder. I think it'll be good. that shoulder. I think it'll be good. that shoulder. I think it'll be good. that your strength gains are exceptional. Ex your strength gains are exceptional. Ex your strength gains are exceptional. Ex the 33 lb up on the hip thrust, the 11 the 33 lb up on the hip thrust, the 11 the 33 lb up on the hip thrust, the 11 lb on the deadlift, like everything's lb on the deadlift, like everything's lb on the deadlift, like everything's stronger. I think it's I think that's stronger. I think it's I think that's stronger. I think it's I think that's phenomenal. phenomenal. phenomenal. &gt;&gt; I also want you to know too, a lot of &gt;&gt; I also want you to know too, a lot of &gt;&gt; I also want you to know too, a lot of times [clears throat] what happens with times [clears throat] what happens with times [clears throat] what happens with what you just went through too is the what you just went through too is the what you just went through too is the strength happens and then muscle tends strength happens and then muscle tends strength happens and then muscle tends to follow. to follow. to follow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Muscle strength. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Muscle strength. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Muscle strength. &gt;&gt; So, it's not always like this direct &gt;&gt; So, it's not always like this direct &gt;&gt; So, it's not always like this direct correlation of like, oh, I got stronger, correlation of like, oh, I got stronger, correlation of like, oh, I got stronger, therefore I should have this much therefore I should have this much therefore I should have this much muscle. I feel like you're just like muscle. I feel like you're just like muscle. I feel like you're just like after getting sick like you did, and after getting sick like you did, and after getting sick like you did, and then getting back in the rhythm and then then getting back in the rhythm and then then getting back in the rhythm and then the shoulder thing a little bit. I think the shoulder thing a little bit. I think the shoulder thing a little bit. I think you're actually in a really nice rhythm. you're actually in a really nice rhythm. you're actually in a really nice rhythm. Now, I understand trying to lean out Now, I understand trying to lean out Now, I understand trying to lean out because of we got work and stuff like because of we got work and stuff like because of we got work and stuff like that. That's in summer. I get that. that. That's in summer. I get that. that. That's in summer. I get that. &gt;&gt; But in a perfect world, I would probably &gt;&gt; But in a perfect world, I would probably &gt;&gt; But in a perfect world, I would probably only give you a break for a couple weeks only give you a break for a couple weeks only give you a break for a couple weeks and then push you right back up because and then push you right back up because and then push you right back up because I think I think I think &gt;&gt; cuz I think you're primed to build more &gt;&gt; cuz I think you're primed to build more &gt;&gt; cuz I think you're primed to build more muscle. I think you you really are. I muscle. I think you you really are. I muscle. I think you you really are. I think we're heading the right path think we're heading the right path think we're heading the right path &gt;&gt; now. Now, the reduction in training &gt;&gt; now. Now, the reduction in training &gt;&gt; now. Now, the reduction in training volume because 15 symmetry from strong volume because 15 symmetry from strong volume because 15 symmetry from strong is a reduction of volume is a good place is a reduction of volume is a good place is a reduction of volume is a good place to go to go to go &gt;&gt; with a 500 calorie cut. &gt;&gt; with a 500 calorie cut. &gt;&gt; with a 500 calorie cut. &gt;&gt; Yeah. and symmetry I think is going to &gt;&gt; Yeah. and symmetry I think is going to &gt;&gt; Yeah. and symmetry I think is going to help your shoulder quite a bit. help your shoulder quite a bit. help your shoulder quite a bit. &gt;&gt; I think I think you have the right &gt;&gt; I think I think you have the right &gt;&gt; I think I think you have the right attitude. Uh uh everything you're saying attitude. Uh uh everything you're saying attitude. Uh uh everything you're saying like spot on. The way you handled like spot on. The way you handled like spot on. The way you handled getting sick I think was spot on and the getting sick I think was spot on and the getting sick I think was spot on and the modifications you did because of the modifications you did because of the modifications you did because of the shoulder pain spot on. I do think then shoulder pain spot on. I do think then shoulder pain spot on. I do think then now what I will caution you is when you now what I will caution you is when you now what I will caution you is when you go on the cut to not weigh yourself so go on the cut to not weigh yourself so go on the cut to not weigh yourself so often. often. often. &gt;&gt; No, I'm not going to miss this. &gt;&gt; No, I'm not going to miss this. &gt;&gt; No, I'm not going to miss this. &gt;&gt; Okay, good. I think you're I think 2100 &gt;&gt; Okay, good. I think you're I think 2100 &gt;&gt; Okay, good. I think you're I think 2100 calories with 15 symmetry is totally calories with 15 symmetry is totally calories with 15 symmetry is totally fine. Where where what where are you fine. Where where what where are you fine. Where where what where are you averaging steps right now too? averaging steps right now too? averaging steps right now too? &gt;&gt; I'm back so my activity obviously ramped &gt;&gt; I'm back so my activity obviously ramped &gt;&gt; I'm back so my activity obviously ramped up after like I said to you originally up after like I said to you originally up after like I said to you originally in January it gets a bit quiet. I'm I'm in January it gets a bit quiet. I'm I'm in January it gets a bit quiet. I'm I'm around 10 to 12,000 steps a day. around 10 to 12,000 steps a day. around 10 to 12,000 steps a day. &gt;&gt; Okay, you're good by gig. I'm 15,000 if &gt;&gt; Okay, you're good by gig. I'm 15,000 if &gt;&gt; Okay, you're good by gig. I'm 15,000 if I gig cuz I move around a lot. I gig cuz I move around a lot. I gig cuz I move around a lot. &gt;&gt; Okay. No, you're good. No, you're &gt;&gt; Okay. No, you're good. No, you're &gt;&gt; Okay. No, you're good. No, you're perfect. Perfect. Let's go. Go for it. perfect. Perfect. Let's go. Go for it. perfect. Perfect. Let's go. Go for it. 21. Now what Adam said if I was your 21. Now what Adam said if I was your 21. Now what Adam said if I was your coach, I would probably try and coach, I would probably try and coach, I would probably try and encourage you to do what Adam said encourage you to do what Adam said encourage you to do what Adam said &gt;&gt; cuz what he's saying is 100% true. uh &gt;&gt; cuz what he's saying is 100% true. uh &gt;&gt; cuz what he's saying is 100% true. uh you it's it's almost like clockwork. You you it's it's almost like clockwork. You you it's it's almost like clockwork. You get stronger stronger stronger muscle. get stronger stronger stronger muscle. get stronger stronger stronger muscle. It's it's almost never stronger muscle It's it's almost never stronger muscle It's it's almost never stronger muscle strong. It's never it's almost never at strong. It's never it's almost never at strong. It's never it's almost never at the same time. the same time. the same time. &gt;&gt; But nonetheless, there's nothing wrong &gt;&gt; But nonetheless, there's nothing wrong &gt;&gt; But nonetheless, there's nothing wrong with with going in a cut, especially if with with going in a cut, especially if with with going in a cut, especially if you need the break. you need the break. you need the break. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You're in a healthy place. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You're in a healthy place. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You're in a healthy place. &gt;&gt; You're in a healthy place. &gt;&gt; You're in a healthy place. &gt;&gt; You're in a healthy place. &gt;&gt; Maps 15 symmetries, lower volume, uh a &gt;&gt; Maps 15 symmetries, lower volume, uh a &gt;&gt; Maps 15 symmetries, lower volume, uh a lot of unilateral work, which is going lot of unilateral work, which is going lot of unilateral work, which is going to help your shoulder. I I see nothing I to help your shoulder. I I see nothing I to help your shoulder. I I see nothing I see nothing wrong with doing that. see nothing wrong with doing that. see nothing wrong with doing that. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's I did cuz I've done symmetry &gt;&gt; Oh, that's I did cuz I've done symmetry &gt;&gt; Oh, that's I did cuz I've done symmetry and I and I did think oh I wonder if and I and I did think oh I wonder if and I and I did think oh I wonder if they'll say that actually cuz I've also they'll say that actually cuz I've also they'll say that actually cuz I've also got your prime as well. So I did I got your prime as well. So I did I got your prime as well. So I did I started to look through that see if started to look through that see if started to look through that see if there's anything to count me with with there's anything to count me with with there's anything to count me with with that and prime. that and prime. that and prime. &gt;&gt; Well there is something. Okay. So what &gt;&gt; Well there is something. Okay. So what &gt;&gt; Well there is something. Okay. So what my suggestion to you before you do any my suggestion to you before you do any my suggestion to you before you do any working out especially upper body stuff working out especially upper body stuff working out especially upper body stuff &gt;&gt; just do that zone one test where you're &gt;&gt; just do that zone one test where you're &gt;&gt; just do that zone one test where you're supposed to put your arms on the wall. supposed to put your arms on the wall. supposed to put your arms on the wall. &gt;&gt; Yes. Just do that four or five times &gt;&gt; Yes. Just do that four or five times &gt;&gt; Yes. Just do that four or five times before you get into a workout. That'll before you get into a workout. That'll before you get into a workout. That'll help set you up in a good place. help set you up in a good place. help set you up in a good place. &gt;&gt; Plus Yeah. And plus because of your &gt;&gt; Plus Yeah. And plus because of your &gt;&gt; Plus Yeah. And plus because of your schedule, I guess you're doing some schedule, I guess you're doing some schedule, I guess you're doing some more. You're going to be going into a more. You're going to be going into a more. You're going to be going into a season where you're a little busier. 15 season where you're a little busier. 15 season where you're a little busier. 15 symmetry is perfect. Yeah. symmetry is perfect. Yeah. symmetry is perfect. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay, that's great. That's And &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay, that's great. That's And &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay, that's great. That's And when I go back into sort of reversing when I go back into sort of reversing when I go back into sort of reversing upwards again, what sort of program was upwards again, what sort of program was upwards again, what sort of program was you now? Done strong and I loved it. you now? Done strong and I loved it. you now? Done strong and I loved it. &gt;&gt; Do it again. Do it again because you DO &gt;&gt; Do it again. Do it again because you DO &gt;&gt; Do it again. Do it again because you DO IT AGAIN. OH, GREAT. THAT'S GOOD. Then IT AGAIN. OH, GREAT. THAT'S GOOD. Then IT AGAIN. OH, GREAT. THAT'S GOOD. Then &gt;&gt; yeah, you had two hiccups in there, &gt;&gt; yeah, you had two hiccups in there, &gt;&gt; yeah, you had two hiccups in there, right? We had we got we got sick. We had right? We had we got we got sick. We had right? We had we got we got sick. We had the shoulder thing. the shoulder thing. the shoulder thing. &gt;&gt; Uh you're going to come back off volume. &gt;&gt; Uh you're going to come back off volume. &gt;&gt; Uh you're going to come back off volume. Maybe Maybe Maybe &gt;&gt; you could also go muscle mommy. Do you &gt;&gt; you could also go muscle mommy. Do you &gt;&gt; you could also go muscle mommy. Do you have that program? have that program? have that program? &gt;&gt; Okay, I've got that. Yeah, muscle mommy. &gt;&gt; Okay, I've got that. Yeah, muscle mommy. &gt;&gt; Okay, I've got that. Yeah, muscle mommy. Yeah, if you want to do something Yeah, if you want to do something Yeah, if you want to do something different, you can go muscle mommy with different, you can go muscle mommy with different, you can go muscle mommy with the reverse. the reverse. the reverse. &gt;&gt; She just did. She loves strong. Do &gt;&gt; She just did. She loves strong. Do &gt;&gt; She just did. She loves strong. Do strong again. strong again. strong again. &gt;&gt; There's nothing wrong with it. &gt;&gt; There's nothing wrong with it. &gt;&gt; There's nothing wrong with it. &gt;&gt; It's so It was so It's so amazing. It's &gt;&gt; It's so It was so It's so amazing. It's &gt;&gt; It's so It was so It's so amazing. It's so novel, too, right? So different than so novel, too, right? So different than so novel, too, right? So different than anything else. And so you got to anything else. And so you got to anything else. And so you got to experience it. Yeah, you got to experience it. Yeah, you got to experience it. Yeah, you got to experience it when you go run it again. experience it when you go run it again. experience it when you go run it again. You'll be fine. You You'll be fine. You You'll be fine. You &gt;&gt; such a good program, guys. I was getting &gt;&gt; such a good program, guys. I was getting &gt;&gt; such a good program, guys. I was getting into it thinking, "This is amazing." I into it thinking, "This is amazing." I into it thinking, "This is amazing." I felt so great when I got to phase two. I felt so great when I got to phase two. I felt so great when I got to phase two. I just felt like I was sailing. I was so just felt like I was sailing. I was so just felt like I was sailing. I was so gutted when I got that gastric flu gutted when I got that gastric flu gutted when I got that gastric flu &gt;&gt; cuz it was just it depressed the hell &gt;&gt; cuz it was just it depressed the hell &gt;&gt; cuz it was just it depressed the hell out of me. out of me. out of me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'd love to see what it feels like &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'd love to see what it feels like &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'd love to see what it feels like for you to make it all the way through for you to make it all the way through for you to make it all the way through that program feeling good. I bet I bet that program feeling good. I bet I bet that program feeling good. I bet I bet you see even more increases and feel you see even more increases and feel you see even more increases and feel great. great. great. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's good. Okay. I've got A PLAN. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's good. Okay. I've got A PLAN. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's good. Okay. I've got A PLAN. BRILLIANT. CAN I JUST SAY AS WELL LIKE BRILLIANT. CAN I JUST SAY AS WELL LIKE BRILLIANT. CAN I JUST SAY AS WELL LIKE WITH um going forward like with studying WITH um going forward like with studying WITH um going forward like with studying and everything. I just want to say I and everything. I just want to say I and everything. I just want to say I listened to an episode of yours today listened to an episode of yours today listened to an episode of yours today when I was walking the dog and it really when I was walking the dog and it really when I was walking the dog and it really actually made me cry a little bit actually made me cry a little bit actually made me cry a little bit because you were speaking to a guy because you were speaking to a guy because you were speaking to a guy called Nikki. called Nikki. called Nikki. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And if you know Nikki Yeah. And I tell &gt;&gt; And if you know Nikki Yeah. And I tell &gt;&gt; And if you know Nikki Yeah. And I tell you what, you guys, I know this is a you what, you guys, I know this is a you what, you guys, I know this is a business view as well, but that really business view as well, but that really business view as well, but that really was pretty epic to be honest with you was pretty epic to be honest with you was pretty epic to be honest with you because I coming from an eating disorder because I coming from an eating disorder because I coming from an eating disorder background and that's what I'm trying to background and that's what I'm trying to background and that's what I'm trying to do with this. You see, I I want it to be do with this. You see, I I want it to be do with this. You see, I I want it to be a business, but number one, I really a business, but number one, I really a business, but number one, I really care about people and I want to help care about people and I want to help care about people and I want to help people. Wherever I can offer it, I will people. Wherever I can offer it, I will people. Wherever I can offer it, I will offer my services for free for people to offer my services for free for people to offer my services for free for people to try and help them if they really need try and help them if they really need try and help them if they really need help. Something like Nikki. And I just I help. Something like Nikki. And I just I help. Something like Nikki. And I just I just want to say that because it really just want to say that because it really just want to say that because it really hit me hard today when I listened to you hit me hard today when I listened to you hit me hard today when I listened to you chat with that guy. Um, and I thought chat with that guy. Um, and I thought chat with that guy. Um, and I thought what you offered and everything was what you offered and everything was what you offered and everything was exceptional. I just want to say thank exceptional. I just want to say thank exceptional. I just want to say thank you cuz you really do help people so you cuz you really do help people so you cuz you really do help people so much and all of your advice I just use much and all of your advice I just use much and all of your advice I just use it with my clients um and you give so it with my clients um and you give so it with my clients um and you give so much insight and experience behind much insight and experience behind much insight and experience behind that's why I think you've inspired me to that's why I think you've inspired me to that's why I think you've inspired me to go forward what I'm trying to do so go forward what I'm trying to do so go forward what I'm trying to do so &gt;&gt; you know I really appreciate everything &gt;&gt; you know I really appreciate everything &gt;&gt; you know I really appreciate everything you do thank you so much you do thank you so much you do thank you so much &gt;&gt; thank you so much for helping me &gt;&gt; thank you so much for helping me &gt;&gt; thank you so much for helping me &gt;&gt; yeah you're such a lovely you're such a &gt;&gt; yeah you're such a lovely you're such a &gt;&gt; yeah you're such a lovely you're such a lovely person lovely person lovely person &gt;&gt; yeah stay in touch &gt;&gt; yeah stay in touch &gt;&gt; yeah stay in touch &gt;&gt; so are you guys &gt;&gt; so are you guys &gt;&gt; so are you guys &gt;&gt; stay in touch with us Karen let us know &gt;&gt; stay in touch with us Karen let us know &gt;&gt; stay in touch with us Karen let us know how it goes okay how it goes okay how it goes okay &gt;&gt; I will do yeah you take care &gt;&gt; I will do yeah you take care &gt;&gt; I will do yeah you take care &gt;&gt; thank Okay. Bye. &gt;&gt; thank Okay. Bye. &gt;&gt; thank Okay. Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; What a what a what a bubbly wonderful &gt;&gt; What a what a what a bubbly wonderful &gt;&gt; What a what a what a bubbly wonderful she has so much good energy. She be a she has so much good energy. She be a she has so much good energy. She be a great great great &gt;&gt; her getting so her getting sick with the &gt;&gt; her getting so her getting sick with the &gt;&gt; her getting so her getting sick with the gastric flu. That's like like vomiting. gastric flu. That's like like vomiting. gastric flu. That's like like vomiting. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; That's the worst. &gt;&gt; That's the worst. &gt;&gt; That's the worst. &gt;&gt; So no doubt she lost &gt;&gt; So no doubt she lost &gt;&gt; So no doubt she lost &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. Yeah. No, she she lost momentum &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. Yeah. No, she she lost momentum &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. Yeah. No, she she lost momentum and progress. She lost some muscle and progress. She lost some muscle and progress. She lost some muscle during that time. Um and then to be during that time. Um and then to be during that time. Um and then to be hindered by shoulder. That's why I hindered by shoulder. That's why I hindered by shoulder. That's why I wanted her to run it again cuz I think wanted her to run it again cuz I think wanted her to run it again cuz I think and she love cuz she loved it. She loved and she love cuz she loved it. She loved and she love cuz she loved it. She loved it so much. It is such a unique program it so much. It is such a unique program it so much. It is such a unique program too. There's so I bet you there's too. There's so I bet you there's too. There's so I bet you there's movements that she was doing for the movements that she was doing for the movements that she was doing for the first time. So, I mean, I bet the second first time. So, I mean, I bet the second first time. So, I mean, I bet the second time around she'll get But in in a time around she'll get But in in a time around she'll get But in in a perfect world, okay, if I had her as a perfect world, okay, if I had her as a perfect world, okay, if I had her as a client client client &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. No, 100%. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. No, 100%. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. No, 100%. &gt;&gt; And she asked for a diet break, I would &gt;&gt; And she asked for a diet break, I would &gt;&gt; And she asked for a diet break, I would totally respect that. I mean, 2 weeks, totally respect that. I mean, 2 weeks, totally respect that. I mean, 2 weeks, we go down to 21 and then right back up we go down to 21 and then right back up we go down to 21 and then right back up because I think she's primed right now because I think she's primed right now because I think she's primed right now to just to just to just &gt;&gt; No, 100%. No, you're 100% right. No, no, &gt;&gt; No, 100%. No, you're 100% right. No, no, &gt;&gt; No, 100%. No, you're 100% right. No, no, totally. I love to the story the story totally. I love to the story the story totally. I love to the story the story of the guy in the care home. of the guy in the care home. of the guy in the care home. &gt;&gt; Just picture this 89y old man. &gt;&gt; Just picture this 89y old man. &gt;&gt; Just picture this 89y old man. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] &gt;&gt; I know, right? &gt;&gt; I know, right? &gt;&gt; I know, right? &gt;&gt; You can totally see that. &gt;&gt; You can totally see that. &gt;&gt; You can totally see that. &gt;&gt; He's a creepy old guy. Next caller is &gt;&gt; He's a creepy old guy. Next caller is &gt;&gt; He's a creepy old guy. Next caller is Bianca from Texas. Bianca from Texas. Bianca from Texas. &gt;&gt; Hi Bianca. &gt;&gt; Hi Bianca. &gt;&gt; Hi Bianca. &gt;&gt; How you doing Bianca? &gt;&gt; How you doing Bianca? &gt;&gt; How you doing Bianca? &gt;&gt; Hi guys. I'm so excited to meet y'all &gt;&gt; Hi guys. I'm so excited to meet y'all &gt;&gt; Hi guys. I'm so excited to meet y'all first of all. first of all. first of all. &gt;&gt; Right on. &gt;&gt; Right on. &gt;&gt; Right on. &gt;&gt; Yeah. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; So my question is I've sort of been on a &gt;&gt; So my question is I've sort of been on a &gt;&gt; So my question is I've sort of been on a long fitness journey. I'm sure like most long fitness journey. I'm sure like most long fitness journey. I'm sure like most people. Um my question is um so what do people. Um my question is um so what do people. Um my question is um so what do you do when consistency fails you? you do when consistency fails you? you do when consistency fails you? &gt;&gt; Because I feel like everyone preaches &gt;&gt; Because I feel like everyone preaches &gt;&gt; Because I feel like everyone preaches consistency. And so, um, I was consistency. And so, um, I was consistency. And so, um, I was consistent with a plan that a consistent with a plan that a consistent with a plan that a nutritionist had put in place and I lost nutritionist had put in place and I lost nutritionist had put in place and I lost 36 lbs. But eventually I sort of hit a 36 lbs. But eventually I sort of hit a 36 lbs. But eventually I sort of hit a wall and then um, like a year later and wall and then um, like a year later and wall and then um, like a year later and wouldn't go below 199. And then when I wouldn't go below 199. And then when I wouldn't go below 199. And then when I started strength training again and started strength training again and started strength training again and being more active, I started like having being more active, I started like having being more active, I started like having energy crashes and um, it sort of energy crashes and um, it sort of energy crashes and um, it sort of stalled me. And then I started trying stalled me. And then I started trying stalled me. And then I started trying different things and now I'm sort of different things and now I'm sort of different things and now I'm sort of afraid to be consistent per se, like in afraid to be consistent per se, like in afraid to be consistent per se, like in the wrong thing. Um, the wrong thing. Um, the wrong thing. Um, &gt;&gt; so I don't know if that's the right &gt;&gt; so I don't know if that's the right &gt;&gt; so I don't know if that's the right question, but what do you do when you're question, but what do you do when you're question, but what do you do when you're consistent, but that doesn't quite work consistent, but that doesn't quite work consistent, but that doesn't quite work out for you? out for you? out for you? &gt;&gt; That's wonderful. &gt;&gt; That's wonderful. &gt;&gt; That's wonderful. &gt;&gt; Do you have uh more quite follow-up &gt;&gt; Do you have uh more quite follow-up &gt;&gt; Do you have uh more quite follow-up question that do you have more question that do you have more question that do you have more challenges with the consistency around challenges with the consistency around challenges with the consistency around the exercise and working out or more the exercise and working out or more the exercise and working out or more challenges with the diet or both? challenges with the diet or both? challenges with the diet or both? I think definitely with the working out I think definitely with the working out I think definitely with the working out because I'm a teacher and my nervous because I'm a teacher and my nervous because I'm a teacher and my nervous system is sort of burnt out at the end system is sort of burnt out at the end system is sort of burnt out at the end of the day. So, and I love strength of the day. So, and I love strength of the day. So, and I love strength training. training. training. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; So, it is a little hard to be consistent &gt;&gt; So, it is a little hard to be consistent &gt;&gt; So, it is a little hard to be consistent there. there. there. &gt;&gt; Okay. Good. Good. That's why. Okay. So, &gt;&gt; Okay. Good. Good. That's why. Okay. So, &gt;&gt; Okay. Good. Good. That's why. Okay. So, for me, uh the advice looks like setting for me, uh the advice looks like setting for me, uh the advice looks like setting uh more realistic goals for yourself. uh more realistic goals for yourself. uh more realistic goals for yourself. So, stuff that you set small easy wins. So, stuff that you set small easy wins. So, stuff that you set small easy wins. What that might look like for somebody, What that might look like for somebody, What that might look like for somebody, and this is about this is all about and this is about this is all about and this is about this is all about meeting you where you're at. Okay. So, meeting you where you're at. Okay. So, meeting you where you're at. Okay. So, this could be any uh it could be you this could be any uh it could be you this could be any uh it could be you recognize that you really don't even recognize that you really don't even recognize that you really don't even step that much and you consistently only step that much and you consistently only step that much and you consistently only get about 4,000 steps. And so, my goal get about 4,000 steps. And so, my goal get about 4,000 steps. And so, my goal with you would be something like, "Hey, with you would be something like, "Hey, with you would be something like, "Hey, let's just make 6,000 steps a day." let's just make 6,000 steps a day." let's just make 6,000 steps a day." That's a thing that you always do now. That's a thing that you always do now. That's a thing that you always do now. Like that. Now, we'll build training. Like that. Now, we'll build training. Like that. Now, we'll build training. We'll do other stuff, too. But like, We'll do other stuff, too. But like, We'll do other stuff, too. But like, that's the one thing that we're just that's the one thing that we're just that's the one thing that we're just going to change that about your life. going to change that about your life. going to change that about your life. You never become a person who steps less You never become a person who steps less You never become a person who steps less than 6,000. It's an easy thing. I can go than 6,000. It's an easy thing. I can go than 6,000. It's an easy thing. I can go for a walk for 20 minutes every extra for a walk for 20 minutes every extra for a walk for 20 minutes every extra day. Whatever that is, right? Maybe day. Whatever that is, right? Maybe day. Whatever that is, right? Maybe that's really easy for you. So maybe it that's really easy for you. So maybe it that's really easy for you. So maybe it looks like let's just commit to like a looks like let's just commit to like a looks like let's just commit to like a program like grade 8 where it's one program like grade 8 where it's one program like grade 8 where it's one exercise a day, exercise a day, exercise a day, &gt;&gt; just one lift. Let's just let's be a &gt;&gt; just one lift. Let's just let's be a &gt;&gt; just one lift. Let's just let's be a person that just gets that one lift in a person that just gets that one lift in a person that just gets that one lift in a day. And so find we need to find a place day. And so find we need to find a place day. And so find we need to find a place that is seems very realistic like you that is seems very realistic like you that is seems very realistic like you know what I know I can commit to that know what I know I can commit to that know what I know I can commit to that and then build build on that versus like and then build build on that versus like and then build build on that versus like I'm on or off which is so common for I'm on or off which is so common for I'm on or off which is so common for people that have been in it's like okay people that have been in it's like okay people that have been in it's like okay I'm going to do this thing. I got my I'm going to do this thing. I got my I'm going to do this thing. I got my nutrition lined up and I've got my meals nutrition lined up and I've got my meals nutrition lined up and I've got my meals planned and I got this program that planned and I got this program that planned and I got this program that says, you know, this workout three or says, you know, this workout three or says, you know, this workout three or four times a week for an hour and then four times a week for an hour and then four times a week for an hour and then it's like you do it good for a week or it's like you do it good for a week or it's like you do it good for a week or two, then a stressful week at work two, then a stressful week at work two, then a stressful week at work happens and then it's just like then it happens and then it's just like then it happens and then it's just like then it all falls apart. It's like start baby all falls apart. It's like start baby all falls apart. It's like start baby steps with things that you know you can steps with things that you know you can steps with things that you know you can commit to and you can know you can win commit to and you can know you can win commit to and you can know you can win and go win at it for at least a month and go win at it for at least a month and go win at it for at least a month and then we build on it and then build and then we build on it and then build and then we build on it and then build on it like that. That's that's what I on it like that. That's that's what I on it like that. That's that's what I would do with you. Bianca, I have a few would do with you. Bianca, I have a few would do with you. Bianca, I have a few uh ideas and assumptions that I'll have uh ideas and assumptions that I'll have uh ideas and assumptions that I'll have to ask more questions, dig a little to ask more questions, dig a little to ask more questions, dig a little deeper, deeper, deeper, &gt;&gt; but I do I want to start by speaking &gt;&gt; but I do I want to start by speaking &gt;&gt; but I do I want to start by speaking kind of broadly. I want to take like a kind of broadly. I want to take like a kind of broadly. I want to take like a thousand foot view thousand foot view thousand foot view &gt;&gt; uh on on your question. So, first off, &gt;&gt; uh on on your question. So, first off, &gt;&gt; uh on on your question. So, first off, consistency is the challenge with consistency is the challenge with consistency is the challenge with everyone. everyone. everyone. &gt;&gt; So, it's [snorts] not just you. &gt;&gt; So, it's [snorts] not just you. &gt;&gt; So, it's [snorts] not just you. &gt;&gt; So, when you look at the data, &gt;&gt; So, when you look at the data, &gt;&gt; So, when you look at the data, &gt;&gt; uh weight loss is not challenging, for &gt;&gt; uh weight loss is not challenging, for &gt;&gt; uh weight loss is not challenging, for example. Keeping it off is challenging. example. Keeping it off is challenging. example. Keeping it off is challenging. &gt;&gt; Working out is not hard. Continuing to &gt;&gt; Working out is not hard. Continuing to &gt;&gt; Working out is not hard. Continuing to work out is hard. So always consistency. work out is hard. So always consistency. work out is hard. So always consistency. &gt;&gt; So the that's the big thing we need to &gt;&gt; So the that's the big thing we need to &gt;&gt; So the that's the big thing we need to tackle is what is it that that when tackle is what is it that that when tackle is what is it that that when people do this right, people do this right, people do this right, &gt;&gt; why do they keep doing it? And the easy &gt;&gt; why do they keep doing it? And the easy &gt;&gt; why do they keep doing it? And the easy simple answer is because they love it. simple answer is because they love it. simple answer is because they love it. So number one, you need to find a form So number one, you need to find a form So number one, you need to find a form of exercise or a way to approach this of exercise or a way to approach this of exercise or a way to approach this where you enjoy it. Because if you don't where you enjoy it. Because if you don't where you enjoy it. Because if you don't enjoy it, then you're going to be it's enjoy it, then you're going to be it's enjoy it, then you're going to be it's going to be a battle of wills. It's going to be a battle of wills. It's going to be a battle of wills. It's going to be a grind. So what you had going to be a grind. So what you had going to be a grind. So what you had what you had talked about in the past what you had talked about in the past what you had talked about in the past was I did it but then I had energy was I did it but then I had energy was I did it but then I had energy crashes. Well yeah of course you're crashes. Well yeah of course you're crashes. Well yeah of course you're going to stop. You're not liking it. You going to stop. You're not liking it. You going to stop. You're not liking it. You hate it. So we need to do something that hate it. So we need to do something that hate it. So we need to do something that you actually genuinely like and enjoy you actually genuinely like and enjoy you actually genuinely like and enjoy and look forward to. And what that going and look forward to. And what that going and look forward to. And what that going to feel like is it makes me feel better to feel like is it makes me feel better to feel like is it makes me feel better right now. It's something I enjoy doing. right now. It's something I enjoy doing. right now. It's something I enjoy doing. Uh I feel better later because I'm uh Uh I feel better later because I'm uh Uh I feel better later because I'm uh doing it. Not it makes me feel terrible. doing it. Not it makes me feel terrible. doing it. Not it makes me feel terrible. it makes me feel more tired or it takes it makes me feel more tired or it takes it makes me feel more tired or it takes away my energy for my work the following away my energy for my work the following away my energy for my work the following day and I feel like I can't perform day and I feel like I can't perform day and I feel like I can't perform because all of those are like for sure because all of those are like for sure because all of those are like for sure you're gonna totally stop. Now I do have you're gonna totally stop. Now I do have you're gonna totally stop. Now I do have some questions. So like well now we'll some questions. So like well now we'll some questions. So like well now we'll get back to you know a close-up view of get back to you know a close-up view of get back to you know a close-up view of of kind of what's going on. You were of kind of what's going on. You were of kind of what's going on. You were following a diet from nutritionist and following a diet from nutritionist and following a diet from nutritionist and then you started working out and you then you started working out and you then you started working out and you started energy crashing. started energy crashing. started energy crashing. &gt;&gt; My guess and I'd love some details is &gt;&gt; My guess and I'd love some details is &gt;&gt; My guess and I'd love some details is that your calories were way too low. that your calories were way too low. that your calories were way too low. &gt;&gt; They were at 1,400. &gt;&gt; They were at 1,400. &gt;&gt; They were at 1,400. &gt;&gt; Okay. Of course you're going to crash. &gt;&gt; Okay. Of course you're going to crash. &gt;&gt; Okay. Of course you're going to crash. Way too low. Of course you're Way too low. Of course you're Way too low. Of course you're depression. depression. depression. &gt;&gt; Sorry. I do get between 10 and 13,000 &gt;&gt; Sorry. I do get between 10 and 13,000 &gt;&gt; Sorry. I do get between 10 and 13,000 steps a day, by the way. steps a day, by the way. steps a day, by the way. &gt;&gt; Just naturally. &gt;&gt; Just naturally. &gt;&gt; Just naturally. &gt;&gt; So that's very low. You're going to lie. &gt;&gt; So that's very low. You're going to lie. &gt;&gt; So that's very low. You're going to lie. You're eating. You're eating. You're eating. &gt;&gt; Everybody would crash. &gt;&gt; Everybody would crash. &gt;&gt; Everybody would crash. &gt;&gt; It's amazing you weren't crashing just &gt;&gt; It's amazing you weren't crashing just &gt;&gt; It's amazing you weren't crashing just from that. And much less the workouts. from that. And much less the workouts. from that. And much less the workouts. You slap on workouts on top of that. And You slap on workouts on top of that. And You slap on workouts on top of that. And &gt;&gt; are you Do you know what you're eating &gt;&gt; are you Do you know what you're eating &gt;&gt; are you Do you know what you're eating now? Uh any ideas? now? Uh any ideas? now? Uh any ideas? &gt;&gt; Yes. So, right now I'm at 1750 calories &gt;&gt; Yes. So, right now I'm at 1750 calories &gt;&gt; Yes. So, right now I'm at 1750 calories and then um I'm working again with a and then um I'm working again with a and then um I'm working again with a nutritionist, but I think she believed nutritionist, but I think she believed nutritionist, but I think she believed me now that I'm a little more active me now that I'm a little more active me now that I'm a little more active than she thought I was. Um and um but I than she thought I was. Um and um but I than she thought I was. Um and um but I my protein is set at like 120 right now. my protein is set at like 120 right now. my protein is set at like 120 right now. So, I don't know if that's enough. So, I don't know if that's enough. So, I don't know if that's enough. &gt;&gt; And and Okay. And you're now tell me a &gt;&gt; And and Okay. And you're now tell me a &gt;&gt; And and Okay. And you're now tell me a little bit about uh the workout little bit about uh the workout little bit about uh the workout situation. Is it a home gym? Do you have situation. Is it a home gym? Do you have situation. Is it a home gym? Do you have to go to a gym? What does it what does to go to a gym? What does it what does to go to a gym? What does it what does that look like? So, I prefer working out that look like? So, I prefer working out that look like? So, I prefer working out at home because I do have a home gym. at home because I do have a home gym. at home because I do have a home gym. Okay. Um, so it's just very practical Okay. Um, so it's just very practical Okay. Um, so it's just very practical and I'm more likely to work out at home. and I'm more likely to work out at home. and I'm more likely to work out at home. &gt;&gt; Wonderful. Good. &gt;&gt; Wonderful. Good. &gt;&gt; Wonderful. Good. &gt;&gt; Grade eight, dude. &gt;&gt; Grade eight, dude. &gt;&gt; Grade eight, dude. &gt;&gt; Now, tell me about your day. Uh, &gt;&gt; Now, tell me about your day. Uh, &gt;&gt; Now, tell me about your day. Uh, &gt;&gt; I bought the grade eight, by the way. &gt;&gt; I bought the grade eight, by the way. &gt;&gt; I bought the grade eight, by the way. So, I do have it. So, I do have it. So, I do have it. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Okay. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Okay. &gt;&gt; Perfect. Okay. &gt;&gt; So, now tell me about your day. Uh, what &gt;&gt; So, now tell me about your day. Uh, what &gt;&gt; So, now tell me about your day. Uh, what does your workday look like? What do does your workday look like? What do does your workday look like? What do what grade do you teach? And what time what grade do you teach? And what time what grade do you teach? And what time do you wake up? What does that all look do you wake up? What does that all look do you wake up? What does that all look like? So, I teach third grade right now like? So, I teach third grade right now like? So, I teach third grade right now and I come in to work at 7:00 a.m. I'm and I come in to work at 7:00 a.m. I'm and I come in to work at 7:00 a.m. I'm home by about 4, but I come home to home by about 4, but I come home to home by about 4, but I come home to prepare dinner um and just take care of prepare dinner um and just take care of prepare dinner um and just take care of some things around the house. I am a some things around the house. I am a some things around the house. I am a mom. I have well I have one 13-year-old. mom. I have well I have one 13-year-old. mom. I have well I have one 13-year-old. Um and then in the evenings, like after Um and then in the evenings, like after Um and then in the evenings, like after dinner, I'm pretty energyless. So, dinner, I'm pretty energyless. So, dinner, I'm pretty energyless. So, that's been my struggle. And then it's that's been my struggle. And then it's that's been my struggle. And then it's either I go to sleep earlier and wake up either I go to sleep earlier and wake up either I go to sleep earlier and wake up early, like at 5:00 a.m. to work out, or early, like at 5:00 a.m. to work out, or early, like at 5:00 a.m. to work out, or I figure out how to have energy in the I figure out how to have energy in the I figure out how to have energy in the evenings to work out. And honestly, evenings to work out. And honestly, evenings to work out. And honestly, that's been like my biggest struggle. that's been like my biggest struggle. that's been like my biggest struggle. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, uh, all day long you're &gt;&gt; Okay. So, uh, all day long you're &gt;&gt; Okay. So, uh, all day long you're working with, how old are third year old working with, how old are third year old working with, how old are third year old uh third graders? What are they? Eight, uh third graders? What are they? Eight, uh third graders? What are they? Eight, seven, seven, seven, &gt;&gt; eight, and nine. &gt;&gt; eight, and nine. &gt;&gt; eight, and nine. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, a bunch of eight, nine year &gt;&gt; Okay. So, a bunch of eight, nine year &gt;&gt; Okay. So, a bunch of eight, nine year olds. And then you got a teenager at olds. And then you got a teenager at olds. And then you got a teenager at home. I have one, too. So, I know what home. I have one, too. So, I know what home. I have one, too. So, I know what that's like. that's like. that's like. &gt;&gt; Uh, and you're eating, 1750 calories. &gt;&gt; Uh, and you're eating, 1750 calories. &gt;&gt; Uh, and you're eating, 1750 calories. Uh, so Uh, so Uh, so &gt;&gt; yeah. &gt;&gt; yeah. &gt;&gt; yeah. &gt;&gt; Are you is this a nutritionist you're &gt;&gt; Are you is this a nutritionist you're &gt;&gt; Are you is this a nutritionist you're paying monthly? paying monthly? paying monthly? &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Okay. May can I make a suggestion? &gt;&gt; Okay. May can I make a suggestion? &gt;&gt; Okay. May can I make a suggestion? &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Okay. I would you like to work with one &gt;&gt; Okay. I would you like to work with one &gt;&gt; Okay. I would you like to work with one of our coaches? of our coaches? of our coaches? &gt;&gt; Because I mean Absolutely. &gt;&gt; Because I mean Absolutely. &gt;&gt; Because I mean Absolutely. &gt;&gt; Because 1750 calories is also too low. &gt;&gt; Because 1750 calories is also too low. &gt;&gt; Because 1750 calories is also too low. &gt;&gt; And now how do I know that? How do I &gt;&gt; And now how do I know that? How do I &gt;&gt; And now how do I know that? How do I know that? know that? know that? &gt;&gt; You feel you you feel no energy at the &gt;&gt; You feel you you feel no energy at the &gt;&gt; You feel you you feel no energy at the end of the day. Yeah. and and and end of the day. Yeah. and and and end of the day. Yeah. and and and working out, you're probably like, "Oh working out, you're probably like, "Oh working out, you're probably like, "Oh my god, I got to fit this other thing in my god, I got to fit this other thing in my god, I got to fit this other thing in and I don't have the energy to do it and and I don't have the energy to do it and and I don't have the energy to do it and I'm tired." I'm tired." I'm tired." &gt;&gt; That tells me your energy is too low. &gt;&gt; That tells me your energy is too low. &gt;&gt; That tells me your energy is too low. &gt;&gt; You're an active person. We need you're &gt;&gt; You're an active person. We need you're &gt;&gt; You're an active person. We need you're an active person. an active person. an active person. &gt;&gt; 1750 calories would be the lowest that &gt;&gt; 1750 calories would be the lowest that &gt;&gt; 1750 calories would be the lowest that would put you after a reverse diet. would put you after a reverse diet. would put you after a reverse diet. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; We need to know that &gt;&gt; We need to know that &gt;&gt; We need to know that &gt;&gt; we need to build you &gt;&gt; we need to build you &gt;&gt; we need to build you &gt;&gt; into the body that you want, not cut you &gt;&gt; into the body that you want, not cut you &gt;&gt; into the body that you want, not cut you into the body. It's already too low. into the body. It's already too low. into the body. It's already too low. &gt;&gt; So much better. Yeah. &gt;&gt; So much better. Yeah. &gt;&gt; So much better. Yeah. &gt;&gt; It's already too low. So phase one would &gt;&gt; It's already too low. So phase one would &gt;&gt; It's already too low. So phase one would look like this with one of our coaches. look like this with one of our coaches. look like this with one of our coaches. A reverse diet. You're probably going to A reverse diet. You're probably going to A reverse diet. You're probably going to follow a 15 maps 15 or maps grade eight follow a 15 maps 15 or maps grade eight follow a 15 maps 15 or maps grade eight style program. And here's what we're style program. And here's what we're style program. And here's what we're looking for. How's your energy? How's looking for. How's your energy? How's looking for. How's your energy? How's your strength? How's your mood? You're your strength? How's your mood? You're your strength? How's your mood? You're like, man, I feel good and I'm getting like, man, I feel good and I'm getting like, man, I feel good and I'm getting stronger, but I'm not losing any weight. stronger, but I'm not losing any weight. stronger, but I'm not losing any weight. I don't care right now. I want you to I don't care right now. I want you to I don't care right now. I want you to feel good and let's get stronger. And feel good and let's get stronger. And feel good and let's get stronger. And we're going to do that for a little we're going to do that for a little we're going to do that for a little while. We're going to do that for a while. We're going to do that for a while. We're going to do that for a little while. We're going to stay in a little while. We're going to stay in a little while. We're going to stay in a season of feel good. I want you to be season of feel good. I want you to be season of feel good. I want you to be like Bianca energy. amazing, uh, like Bianca energy. amazing, uh, like Bianca energy. amazing, uh, creative. I look forward to my workouts. creative. I look forward to my workouts. creative. I look forward to my workouts. I got energy for my family. And then I got energy for my family. And then I got energy for my family. And then when we reverse diet you to a point when we reverse diet you to a point when we reverse diet you to a point where like, cool, we got some runway and where like, cool, we got some runway and where like, cool, we got some runway and you're feeling great. Now, let's do a you're feeling great. Now, let's do a you're feeling great. Now, let's do a cut. cut. cut. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And then what the cut's going to feel &gt;&gt; And then what the cut's going to feel &gt;&gt; And then what the cut's going to feel like is you're losing body fat, but you like is you're losing body fat, but you like is you're losing body fat, but you still feel good. still feel good. still feel good. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And you you'll be higher calories &gt;&gt; Yeah. And you you'll be higher calories &gt;&gt; Yeah. And you you'll be higher calories than what you're at now. than what you're at now. than what you're at now. &gt;&gt; That's that's that's that's &gt;&gt; That's that's that's that's &gt;&gt; That's that's that's that's &gt;&gt; be awesome. &gt;&gt; be awesome. &gt;&gt; be awesome. &gt;&gt; That's where we need to go. That's where &gt;&gt; That's where we need to go. That's where &gt;&gt; That's where we need to go. That's where you need to go. you need to go. you need to go. &gt;&gt; That's where you need to go. &gt;&gt; That's where you need to go. &gt;&gt; That's where you need to go. &gt;&gt; And then two suggestions around the &gt;&gt; And then two suggestions around the &gt;&gt; And then two suggestions around the workout. Uh, and you could take either workout. Uh, and you could take either workout. Uh, and you could take either approach based off of who you are. Um, approach based off of who you are. Um, approach based off of who you are. Um, you know, S is the guy who gets up at you know, S is the guy who gets up at you know, S is the guy who gets up at 5:00 in the morning and works works out 5:00 in the morning and works works out 5:00 in the morning and works works out before he goes to the gym. I cannot do before he goes to the gym. I cannot do before he goes to the gym. I cannot do that. It's just I mean, I of course I that. It's just I mean, I of course I that. It's just I mean, I of course I can, right? I'm s But can, right? I'm s But can, right? I'm s But &gt;&gt; go to bed early. &gt;&gt; go to bed early. &gt;&gt; go to bed early. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Just that's not my that's not my &gt;&gt; Yeah. Just that's not my that's not my &gt;&gt; Yeah. Just that's not my that's not my thing. Now, I also remember when I was thing. Now, I also remember when I was thing. Now, I also remember when I was having to commute and drive all the way having to commute and drive all the way having to commute and drive all the way back over to uh my place over in Marina back over to uh my place over in Marina back over to uh my place over in Marina and I would uh h like I get home, it's and I would uh h like I get home, it's and I would uh h like I get home, it's like 4 4:30 and it's like right get like 4 4:30 and it's like right get like 4 4:30 and it's like right get right before that. It's getting ready right before that. It's getting ready right before that. It's getting ready for dinner, play with my son, do my for dinner, play with my son, do my for dinner, play with my son, do my thing. And so what I found I had to do thing. And so what I found I had to do thing. And so what I found I had to do was like literally as soon as I pulled was like literally as soon as I pulled was like literally as soon as I pulled up to the driveway, I was like, I go do up to the driveway, I was like, I go do up to the driveway, I was like, I go do my two two exercises. And so my my two two exercises. And so my my two two exercises. And so my suggestion would be to you instead of suggestion would be to you instead of suggestion would be to you instead of like waiting till you kind of get home like waiting till you kind of get home like waiting till you kind of get home and you take off and you take off and you take off &gt;&gt; before you prep for dinner. &gt;&gt; before you prep for dinner. &gt;&gt; before you prep for dinner. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Before you prep dinner and you &gt;&gt; Yeah. Before you prep dinner and you &gt;&gt; Yeah. Before you prep dinner and you kind of wind down and then think you're kind of wind down and then think you're kind of wind down and then think you're going to go in the garage and go get a going to go in the garage and go get a going to go in the garage and go get a workout. I'd be like, as soon as I get workout. I'd be like, as soon as I get workout. I'd be like, as soon as I get home, as soon as I get home, I'm going home, as soon as I get home, I'm going home, as soon as I get home, I'm going to just get those two exercises in. If to just get those two exercises in. If to just get those two exercises in. If you're doing a maps 15 or the one you're doing a maps 15 or the one you're doing a maps 15 or the one exercise in if you're doing grade eight, exercise in if you're doing grade eight, exercise in if you're doing grade eight, get it done right then and there and get it done right then and there and get it done right then and there and then allow yourself to wind down for the then allow yourself to wind down for the then allow yourself to wind down for the night. That would be my suggestion. If night. That would be my suggestion. If night. That would be my suggestion. If you do the later one, you do the later one, you do the later one, &gt;&gt; if you go earlier like S, then just like &gt;&gt; if you go earlier like S, then just like &gt;&gt; if you go earlier like S, then just like you said, you said, you said, &gt;&gt; there really is no wrong answer. But but &gt;&gt; there really is no wrong answer. But but &gt;&gt; there really is no wrong answer. But but here's what's going to happen with a here's what's going to happen with a here's what's going to happen with a good reverse diet. You'll have energy good reverse diet. You'll have energy good reverse diet. You'll have energy for either one. for either one. for either one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Cuz right now, what you're probably &gt;&gt; Cuz right now, what you're probably &gt;&gt; Cuz right now, what you're probably juggling is I got to wake up early and juggling is I got to wake up early and juggling is I got to wake up early and I'm going to be tired. Or I got to do it I'm going to be tired. Or I got to do it I'm going to be tired. Or I got to do it after work and I'm tired. after work and I'm tired. after work and I'm tired. &gt;&gt; And and so how would it feel to have &gt;&gt; And and so how would it feel to have &gt;&gt; And and so how would it feel to have energy in the morning and energy at energy in the morning and energy at energy in the morning and energy at night? Right now you can do your night? Right now you can do your night? Right now you can do your workout. Now we can build some muscle. workout. Now we can build some muscle. workout. Now we can build some muscle. Now we can speed up your metabolism. how Now we can speed up your metabolism. how Now we can speed up your metabolism. how we can make your body encourage your we can make your body encourage your we can make your body encourage your body to burn more calories on its own. body to burn more calories on its own. body to burn more calories on its own. That sets us up for the cut later on. That sets us up for the cut later on. That sets us up for the cut later on. But I'm going to I would want you in a But I'm going to I would want you in a But I'm going to I would want you in a season of feel good, of energy, of season of feel good, of energy, of season of feel good, of energy, of getting stronger, and then later we'll getting stronger, and then later we'll getting stronger, and then later we'll we'll worry about the cut cuz right now we'll worry about the cut cuz right now we'll worry about the cut cuz right now you're not in a position to cut. All you're not in a position to cut. All you're not in a position to cut. All you're going to do is fry yourself. You you're going to do is fry yourself. You you're going to do is fry yourself. You said something that was like such said something that was like such said something that was like such an important thing that you said. I feel an important thing that you said. I feel an important thing that you said. I feel like my central nervous system is fried. like my central nervous system is fried. like my central nervous system is fried. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Cuz you got a lot of stimulus coming at &gt;&gt; Cuz you got a lot of stimulus coming at &gt;&gt; Cuz you got a lot of stimulus coming at you all the time. Yeah, you all the time. Yeah, you all the time. Yeah, &gt;&gt; your calories are low and you're &gt;&gt; your calories are low and you're &gt;&gt; your calories are low and you're actually walking and moving a lot. It's actually walking and moving a lot. It's actually walking and moving a lot. It's just not enough. just not enough. just not enough. &gt;&gt; You're That's a spot-on assessment. It &gt;&gt; You're That's a spot-on assessment. It &gt;&gt; You're That's a spot-on assessment. It is fried. That's That's a lot. That's a is fried. That's That's a lot. That's a is fried. That's That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot to be taking in to be lot. That's a lot to be taking in to be lot. That's a lot to be taking in to be moving all day long and then also try moving all day long and then also try moving all day long and then also try and pile on exercise and to only be and pile on exercise and to only be and pile on exercise and to only be eating that. That's low. eating that. That's low. eating that. That's low. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I got to tell you, if you work &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I got to tell you, if you work &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I got to tell you, if you work with a coach or nutritionist that you with a coach or nutritionist that you with a coach or nutritionist that you feel like you have to convince that feel like you have to convince that feel like you have to convince that [snorts] you need to eat more, they're [snorts] you need to eat more, they're [snorts] you need to eat more, they're probably not good. probably not good. probably not good. &gt;&gt; Wow. Okay. Yeah. That's pretty eye &gt;&gt; Wow. Okay. Yeah. That's pretty eye &gt;&gt; Wow. Okay. Yeah. That's pretty eye opening. I I do feel like one workout opening. I I do feel like one workout opening. I I do feel like one workout and then it's like I'm depleted after. and then it's like I'm depleted after. and then it's like I'm depleted after. It's not even about being sore. I'm just It's not even about being sore. I'm just It's not even about being sore. I'm just depleted the next day. depleted the next day. depleted the next day. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, no, &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, no, &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, no, &gt;&gt; you should not feel like that after a &gt;&gt; you should not feel like that after a &gt;&gt; you should not feel like that after a workout. You should feel energized. workout. You should feel energized. workout. You should feel energized. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So, Wow. And and you're lifting weights. &gt;&gt; So, Wow. And and you're lifting weights. &gt;&gt; So, Wow. And and you're lifting weights. And the primary focus when we're lifting And the primary focus when we're lifting And the primary focus when we're lifting weights is to build muscle. You will not weights is to build muscle. You will not weights is to build muscle. You will not build muscle on 1,700 calories, moving build muscle on 1,700 calories, moving build muscle on 1,700 calories, moving 10,000 steps and feeling like that. 10,000 steps and feeling like that. 10,000 steps and feeling like that. There's just you won't you also all There's just you won't you also all There's just you won't you also all you're really doing is moving. And so, you're really doing is moving. And so, you're really doing is moving. And so, it's like you're just moving more. all it's like you're just moving more. all it's like you're just moving more. all that work that you're putting into the that work that you're putting into the that work that you're putting into the weights is not giving you the return you weights is not giving you the return you weights is not giving you the return you deserve for it. That we have to feed the deserve for it. That we have to feed the deserve for it. That we have to feed the body in order for you to build the body in order for you to build the body in order for you to build the muscle from it. And so that's the focus muscle from it. And so that's the focus muscle from it. And so that's the focus like Sal. So the next like 6 months I'm like Sal. So the next like 6 months I'm like Sal. So the next like 6 months I'm thinking we're slowly inching those thinking we're slowly inching those thinking we're slowly inching those calories up. We're focused on getting calories up. We're focused on getting calories up. We're focused on getting stronger. That's all I stronger, feel stronger. That's all I stronger, feel stronger. That's all I stronger, feel better, sleep better, more energy. better, sleep better, more energy. better, sleep better, more energy. That's all we're thinking about for the That's all we're thinking about for the That's all we're thinking about for the next 6 months. And then we go the other next 6 months. And then we go the other next 6 months. And then we go the other way. And then watch watch the weight way. And then watch watch the weight way. And then watch watch the weight come down and you and you feel good come down and you and you feel good come down and you and you feel good while it's happening. And then it's while it's happening. And then it's while it's happening. And then it's easier to keep off because your easier to keep off because your easier to keep off because your metabolism is faster. You feel good. metabolism is faster. You feel good. metabolism is faster. You feel good. &gt;&gt; Uh cuz right now at that point, yeah, &gt;&gt; Uh cuz right now at that point, yeah, &gt;&gt; Uh cuz right now at that point, yeah, right now it feels like you're hitting a right now it feels like you're hitting a right now it feels like you're hitting a wall because you are you're you're wall because you are you're you're wall because you are you're you're running straight into a wall. So, running straight into a wall. So, running straight into a wall. So, &gt;&gt; uh and by the way, that what our coaches &gt;&gt; uh and by the way, that what our coaches &gt;&gt; uh and by the way, that what our coaches will also do is because they're also will also do is because they're also will also do is because they're also trained with exercise, not just trained with exercise, not just trained with exercise, not just nutrition, nutrition, nutrition, &gt;&gt; is they'll be able to take MAPS, you &gt;&gt; is they'll be able to take MAPS, you &gt;&gt; is they'll be able to take MAPS, you know, uh 15, maps grade 8, and they'll know, uh 15, maps grade 8, and they'll know, uh 15, maps grade 8, and they'll turn it into MAPS. So, it's going to be turn it into MAPS. So, it's going to be turn it into MAPS. So, it's going to be very individualized for you. very individualized for you. very individualized for you. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That'd be awesome. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That'd be awesome. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That'd be awesome. &gt;&gt; Okay. I'm going to have somebody reach &gt;&gt; Okay. I'm going to have somebody reach &gt;&gt; Okay. I'm going to have somebody reach out to you. Uh, and I'm we're we're out to you. Uh, and I'm we're we're out to you. Uh, and I'm we're we're probably looking at six to nine months probably looking at six to nine months probably looking at six to nine months uh of of a process to get us all the way uh of of a process to get us all the way uh of of a process to get us all the way through. through. through. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that sounds great. Anything that &gt;&gt; Yeah, that sounds great. Anything that &gt;&gt; Yeah, that sounds great. Anything that will help me feel better is great. will help me feel better is great. will help me feel better is great. &gt;&gt; You got it. &gt;&gt; You got it. &gt;&gt; You got it. &gt;&gt; All right, Bianca. &gt;&gt; All right, Bianca. &gt;&gt; All right, Bianca. &gt;&gt; You got it. Thanks, Bianca. &gt;&gt; You got it. Thanks, Bianca. &gt;&gt; You got it. Thanks, Bianca. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. Thank you guys. Bye. &gt;&gt; All right. Thank you guys. Bye. &gt;&gt; All right. Thank you guys. Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; I can't believe um &gt;&gt; I can't believe um &gt;&gt; I can't believe um &gt;&gt; the nutritionist put her on that low of &gt;&gt; the nutritionist put her on that low of &gt;&gt; the nutritionist put her on that low of calories. calories. calories. &gt;&gt; A nutritionist. &gt;&gt; A nutritionist. &gt;&gt; A nutritionist. &gt;&gt; 1400. Yeah. A nutritionist though. 1400. &gt;&gt; 1400. Yeah. A nutritionist though. 1400. &gt;&gt; 1400. Yeah. A nutritionist though. 1400. &gt;&gt; Nutritionist will go as low as &gt;&gt; Nutritionist will go as low as &gt;&gt; Nutritionist will go as low as completely different. completely different. completely different. &gt;&gt; They'll go as low as 1,200. &gt;&gt; They'll go as low as 1,200. &gt;&gt; They'll go as low as 1,200. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's the that's their guideline. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's the that's their guideline. &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's the that's their guideline. Here's what it is. Hi, I want to lose Here's what it is. Hi, I want to lose Here's what it is. Hi, I want to lose weight. Okay, cool. We'll cut your weight. Okay, cool. We'll cut your weight. Okay, cool. We'll cut your calories. calories. calories. &gt;&gt; That's the thing is cut calories. Yeah, &gt;&gt; That's the thing is cut calories. Yeah, &gt;&gt; That's the thing is cut calories. Yeah, &gt;&gt; we'll cut your calories. And and the &gt;&gt; we'll cut your calories. And and the &gt;&gt; we'll cut your calories. And and the person's like, I don't feel energy. I person's like, I don't feel energy. I person's like, I don't feel energy. I don't don't don't &gt;&gt; And even if I'm telling you I'm going to &gt;&gt; And even if I'm telling you I'm going to &gt;&gt; And even if I'm telling you I'm going to be strength training. be strength training. be strength training. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Yep. Oh, but I don't feel good. I have &gt;&gt; Yep. Oh, but I don't feel good. I have &gt;&gt; Yep. Oh, but I don't feel good. I have no energy. I've fried or whatever. Wow. no energy. I've fried or whatever. Wow. no energy. I've fried or whatever. Wow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay, we'll go up to &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay, we'll go up to &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay, we'll go up to &gt;&gt; 200. Yeah. No. &gt;&gt; 200. Yeah. No. &gt;&gt; 200. Yeah. No. &gt;&gt; No. It's too low, dude. It's too low. Of &gt;&gt; No. It's too low, dude. It's too low. Of &gt;&gt; No. It's too low, dude. It's too low. Of course, you feel like Here's the deal. course, you feel like Here's the deal. course, you feel like Here's the deal. If you're in a cut and you and you can't If you're in a cut and you and you can't If you're in a cut and you and you can't do your day do your day do your day &gt;&gt; and you can't do a single workout &gt;&gt; and you can't do a single workout &gt;&gt; and you can't do a single workout properly, properly, properly, &gt;&gt; you're not eating enough or you have a &gt;&gt; you're not eating enough or you have a &gt;&gt; you're not eating enough or you have a nutrient deficiency. It's one of the nutrient deficiency. It's one of the nutrient deficiency. It's one of the &gt;&gt; you're not recovering. &gt;&gt; you're not recovering. &gt;&gt; you're not recovering. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, she she's moving like crazy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, she she's moving like crazy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, she she's moving like crazy. She's trying to work out. She's not a She's trying to work out. She's not a She's trying to work out. She's not a high stress job with kids all day long. high stress job with kids all day long. high stress job with kids all day long. Has a kid she has come home to. She's Has a kid she has come home to. She's Has a kid she has come home to. She's not tiny and petite either. That her her not tiny and petite either. That her her not tiny and petite either. That her her body type needs more calories than where body type needs more calories than where body type needs more calories than where it's at. The combination of all that way it's at. The combination of all that way it's at. The combination of all that way under eating for where she's at. No under eating for where she's at. No under eating for where she's at. No wonder she feels like she can't be wonder she feels like she can't be wonder she feels like she can't be consistent. Our next caller is Alyssa consistent. Our next caller is Alyssa consistent. Our next caller is Alyssa from Michigan. from Michigan. from Michigan. &gt;&gt; Hi, Alyssa. &gt;&gt; Hi, Alyssa. &gt;&gt; Hi, Alyssa. &gt;&gt; How you doing, Alyssa? How you doing? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Alyssa? How you doing? &gt;&gt; How you doing, Alyssa? How you doing? &gt;&gt; Good to see you again. &gt;&gt; Good to see you again. &gt;&gt; Good to see you again. &gt;&gt; Welcome back. &gt;&gt; Welcome back. &gt;&gt; Welcome back. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Oh, you remember? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Oh, you remember? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Oh, you remember? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I remember. You were like the &gt;&gt; Yeah, I remember. You were like the &gt;&gt; Yeah, I remember. You were like the machine. You worked out all the time. machine. You worked out all the time. machine. You worked out all the time. Cut your cat. We had to We kind of Cut your cat. We had to We kind of Cut your cat. We had to We kind of reverse dieted you, right? Cut down on reverse dieted you, right? Cut down on reverse dieted you, right? Cut down on some of the exercise and stuff. some of the exercise and stuff. some of the exercise and stuff. &gt;&gt; Yes. Yeah. So, I'll read the email I &gt;&gt; Yes. Yeah. So, I'll read the email I &gt;&gt; Yes. Yeah. So, I'll read the email I sent in April. sent in April. sent in April. &gt;&gt; Tell us. &gt;&gt; Tell us. &gt;&gt; Tell us. &gt;&gt; Um, so in our prior call, you guys &gt;&gt; Um, so in our prior call, you guys &gt;&gt; Um, so in our prior call, you guys suggested I cut back my training as suggested I cut back my training as suggested I cut back my training as well, up my calories in order to regain well, up my calories in order to regain well, up my calories in order to regain my period. Since that call, I did my period. Since that call, I did my period. Since that call, I did exactly that, following mass 15, which exactly that, following mass 15, which exactly that, following mass 15, which you gave me thankfully, and focusing on you gave me thankfully, and focusing on you gave me thankfully, and focusing on walking 10,000 steps a day, no running. walking 10,000 steps a day, no running. walking 10,000 steps a day, no running. About a week or two after our call, I About a week or two after our call, I About a week or two after our call, I did have a doctor's appointment did have a doctor's appointment did have a doctor's appointment regarding my period. They agreed that my regarding my period. They agreed that my regarding my period. They agreed that my period loss is most likely due to mental period loss is most likely due to mental period loss is most likely due to mental and physical stress. However, worried and physical stress. However, worried and physical stress. However, worried that at that point, it had been over 4 that at that point, it had been over 4 that at that point, it had been over 4 months since my last period. They were months since my last period. They were months since my last period. They were adamant that I go back on birth control adamant that I go back on birth control adamant that I go back on birth control since it had already proven to work for since it had already proven to work for since it had already proven to work for me. As you know, I was not still am not me. As you know, I was not still am not me. As you know, I was not still am not the biggest fan of it, but I put my the biggest fan of it, but I put my the biggest fan of it, but I put my feelings aside and have had one normal feelings aside and have had one normal feelings aside and have had one normal period since then. I'm about to have my period since then. I'm about to have my period since then. I'm about to have my second one in like 5 days, maybe. Um, second one in like 5 days, maybe. Um, second one in like 5 days, maybe. Um, thanks to my first call with you, I have thanks to my first call with you, I have thanks to my first call with you, I have felt incredibly better, lowering my felt incredibly better, lowering my felt incredibly better, lowering my training and eating more. I have gained training and eating more. I have gained training and eating more. I have gained about 5 lbs and focus on my strength in about 5 lbs and focus on my strength in about 5 lbs and focus on my strength in the gym. I'm hoping the birth control is the gym. I'm hoping the birth control is the gym. I'm hoping the birth control is a temporary fix. And after some more a temporary fix. And after some more a temporary fix. And after some more time taking the right steps, I will time taking the right steps, I will time taking the right steps, I will naturally have periods again. Um, I do naturally have periods again. Um, I do naturally have periods again. Um, I do have a question though. Will I ever be have a question though. Will I ever be have a question though. Will I ever be able to get back to what I was doing able to get back to what I was doing able to get back to what I was doing previously, running about 25 miles a previously, running about 25 miles a previously, running about 25 miles a week and training in the gym 3 to four week and training in the gym 3 to four week and training in the gym 3 to four times a week since my period is taken times a week since my period is taken times a week since my period is taken care of? care of? care of? &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, remind me remind me of the &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, remind me remind me of the &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, remind me remind me of the desired outcome of the running 25 miles desired outcome of the running 25 miles desired outcome of the running 25 miles a week. Are you training for something a week. Are you training for something a week. Are you training for something or you just like to run for 25 miles? or you just like to run for 25 miles? or you just like to run for 25 miles? &gt;&gt; It just uh felt good. It was fun for me. &gt;&gt; It just uh felt good. It was fun for me. &gt;&gt; It just uh felt good. It was fun for me. I like sweating. I like sweating. I like sweating. &gt;&gt; So, a couple things. Um, &gt;&gt; So, a couple things. Um, &gt;&gt; So, a couple things. Um, &gt;&gt; can we dive into that a little bit? &gt;&gt; can we dive into that a little bit? &gt;&gt; can we dive into that a little bit? Yeah, there's I there's very Yeah, there's I there's very Yeah, there's I there's very Let's I'm going to make it a general Let's I'm going to make it a general Let's I'm going to make it a general question. Can anybody run 25 miles a question. Can anybody run 25 miles a question. Can anybody run 25 miles a week and lift weights three days a week week and lift weights three days a week week and lift weights three days a week long term and and and be okay with that long term and and and be okay with that long term and and and be okay with that and feel good with that and not get and feel good with that and not get and feel good with that and not get burnt out? burnt out? burnt out? &gt;&gt; No, not really. That's a lot. Yeah, &gt;&gt; No, not really. That's a lot. Yeah, &gt;&gt; No, not really. That's a lot. Yeah, &gt;&gt; that's a lot. Could you do it for like a &gt;&gt; that's a lot. Could you do it for like a &gt;&gt; that's a lot. Could you do it for like a season like you're training for season like you're training for season like you're training for something? Perhaps. [clears throat] something? Perhaps. [clears throat] something? Perhaps. [clears throat] &gt;&gt; Could you always do that? Probably not. &gt;&gt; Could you always do that? Probably not. &gt;&gt; Could you always do that? Probably not. Uh, unless you were like that was your Uh, unless you were like that was your Uh, unless you were like that was your life. Like you you you you slept, you life. Like you you you you slept, you life. Like you you you you slept, you took naps, all you did was eat and train took naps, all you did was eat and train took naps, all you did was eat and train and relax in between workouts and that's and relax in between workouts and that's and relax in between workouts and that's just super unreasonable. just super unreasonable. just super unreasonable. &gt;&gt; Those are responsibilities. &gt;&gt; Those are responsibilities. &gt;&gt; Those are responsibilities. &gt;&gt; I I also want I also want to dive into I &gt;&gt; I I also want I also want to dive into I &gt;&gt; I I also want I also want to dive into I feel good. No, you don't. feel good. No, you don't. feel good. No, you don't. &gt;&gt; Like you mean temporary in the moment &gt;&gt; Like you mean temporary in the moment &gt;&gt; Like you mean temporary in the moment when you finish the run and you get the when you finish the run and you get the when you finish the run and you get the cortisol spike and the I just completed cortisol spike and the I just completed cortisol spike and the I just completed that big run. Like is that what you that big run. Like is that what you that big run. Like is that what you mean? Because all the other [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] the mean? Because all the other [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] the mean? Because all the other [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] the rest of your day you don't feel good. rest of your day you don't feel good. rest of your day you don't feel good. You don't feel better. You don't have a You don't feel better. You don't have a You don't feel better. You don't have a normal period. It's not. So when we when normal period. It's not. So when we when normal period. It's not. So when we when we train a client, one of the first we train a client, one of the first we train a client, one of the first things that we have to do is deconstruct things that we have to do is deconstruct things that we have to do is deconstruct that and help them attach uh like what that and help them attach uh like what that and help them attach uh like what working out properly, feeding their body working out properly, feeding their body working out properly, feeding their body properly, what it results in and connect properly, what it results in and connect properly, what it results in and connect the dots. So many times with a client the dots. So many times with a client the dots. So many times with a client like you, I'd have to like now that like you, I'd have to like now that like you, I'd have to like now that we're feeding more be like, "Hey, how do we're feeding more be like, "Hey, how do we're feeding more be like, "Hey, how do you feel?" And you'd be like, "Oh, I I you feel?" And you'd be like, "Oh, I I you feel?" And you'd be like, "Oh, I I feel all right. I feel better." I'm feel all right. I feel better." I'm feel all right. I feel better." I'm like, "Well, how are you sleeping?" like, "Well, how are you sleeping?" like, "Well, how are you sleeping?" You're like, "Oh, well, I am sleeping You're like, "Oh, well, I am sleeping You're like, "Oh, well, I am sleeping better." And I'm like, "Well, how's your better." And I'm like, "Well, how's your better." And I'm like, "Well, how's your energy throughout work?" "Well, yeah, energy throughout work?" "Well, yeah, energy throughout work?" "Well, yeah, actually I do have good energy actually I do have good energy actually I do have good energy throughout the work and I do feel throughout the work and I do feel throughout the work and I do feel strong." I said, and I so we have to strong." I said, and I so we have to strong." I said, and I so we have to like help you connect the dots to when like help you connect the dots to when like help you connect the dots to when you take care of your body, all these you take care of your body, all these you take care of your body, all these other markers that make you feel good. other markers that make you feel good. other markers that make you feel good. But what happens is a lot of times we're But what happens is a lot of times we're But what happens is a lot of times we're addicted to this one thing, this addicted to this one thing, this addicted to this one thing, this cortisol spike or this feeling of cortisol spike or this feeling of cortisol spike or this feeling of completion or what some people it's completion or what some people it's completion or what some people it's punishing themselves for an hour, punishing themselves for an hour, punishing themselves for an hour, whatever it is, but they've attached whatever it is, but they've attached whatever it is, but they've attached that I feel really good with that. It's that I feel really good with that. It's that I feel really good with that. It's like do you really though in that moment like do you really though in that moment like do you really though in that moment you might but then the other 23 hours a you might but then the other 23 hours a you might but then the other 23 hours a day your body does not feel good but day your body does not feel good but day your body does not feel good but you're not you're so disconnected from you're not you're so disconnected from you're not you're so disconnected from all those other things and you're all those other things and you're all those other things and you're focused on that one thing and so I have focused on that one thing and so I have focused on that one thing and so I have to help my client reconnect to all the to help my client reconnect to all the to help my client reconnect to all the other things that makes them feel good other things that makes them feel good other things that makes them feel good when they take care of themselves. when they take care of themselves. when they take care of themselves. &gt;&gt; What you're describing with 3 4 days a &gt;&gt; What you're describing with 3 4 days a &gt;&gt; What you're describing with 3 4 days a week of strength training plus 25 miles week of strength training plus 25 miles week of strength training plus 25 miles a week would be elite athlete. This is a a week would be elite athlete. This is a a week would be elite athlete. This is a professional. This is all they do and professional. This is all they do and professional. This is all they do and it's for a season. So I've trained it's for a season. So I've trained it's for a season. So I've trained people like this and they did not do people like this and they did not do people like this and they did not do this all the time. It was like for a this all the time. It was like for a this all the time. It was like for a block of time and then there was a block of time and then there was a block of time and then there was a recovery period and it was very recovery period and it was very recovery period and it was very dedicated. dedicated. dedicated. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it was a sport &gt;&gt; Yeah, it was a sport &gt;&gt; Yeah, it was a sport &gt;&gt; and everything was perfect and even then &gt;&gt; and everything was perfect and even then &gt;&gt; and everything was perfect and even then the strength training was not three to the strength training was not three to the strength training was not three to four days a week. Yeah. With 25 miles of four days a week. Yeah. With 25 miles of four days a week. Yeah. With 25 miles of running, it was one day a week of running, it was one day a week of running, it was one day a week of strength training strength training strength training &gt;&gt; uh with the people that I uh that I &gt;&gt; uh with the people that I uh that I &gt;&gt; uh with the people that I uh that I worked with. But okay, remind me of what worked with. But okay, remind me of what worked with. But okay, remind me of what you do besides working out and all that you do besides working out and all that you do besides working out and all that stuff. Were you in school? Like what are stuff. Were you in school? Like what are stuff. Were you in school? Like what are you doing in in life? What's going on? you doing in in life? What's going on? you doing in in life? What's going on? &gt;&gt; Yeah, so I'm an intern like right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah, so I'm an intern like right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah, so I'm an intern like right now. I'm at my job three days a week like I'm at my job three days a week like I'm at my job three days a week like eight hours. It's It's a desk job, so I eight hours. It's It's a desk job, so I eight hours. It's It's a desk job, so I just sit. But every morning on these just sit. But every morning on these just sit. But every morning on these days, three days a week, I wake up and days, three days a week, I wake up and days, three days a week, I wake up and walk on the treadmill 30 minutes. walk on the treadmill 30 minutes. walk on the treadmill 30 minutes. &gt;&gt; I used to run. So, &gt;&gt; I used to run. So, &gt;&gt; I used to run. So, &gt;&gt; are you Yeah. No, you're doing great. &gt;&gt; are you Yeah. No, you're doing great. &gt;&gt; are you Yeah. No, you're doing great. &gt;&gt; I'm in school as well, studying &gt;&gt; I'm in school as well, studying &gt;&gt; I'm in school as well, studying construction. construction. construction. &gt;&gt; Um, my other two days I really just, you &gt;&gt; Um, my other two days I really just, you &gt;&gt; Um, my other two days I really just, you know, do whatever I want. Try to see my know, do whatever I want. Try to see my know, do whatever I want. Try to see my friends or friends or friends or &gt;&gt; good walks. &gt;&gt; good walks. &gt;&gt; good walks. &gt;&gt; Alyssa, would you would your friends and &gt;&gt; Alyssa, would you would your friends and &gt;&gt; Alyssa, would you would your friends and family say that you're an overachiever? family say that you're an overachiever? family say that you're an overachiever? Maybe in terms of exercise. Yeah. Maybe in terms of exercise. Yeah. Maybe in terms of exercise. Yeah. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] &gt;&gt; So, you you might just like the feeling &gt;&gt; So, you you might just like the feeling &gt;&gt; So, you you might just like the feeling of accomplishment and the fact that I of accomplishment and the fact that I of accomplishment and the fact that I could do hard things, right? could do hard things, right? could do hard things, right? &gt;&gt; Which I totally get. Y &gt;&gt; Which I totally get. Y &gt;&gt; Which I totally get. Y &gt;&gt; uh but yeah, that's a lot, hun. Uh long &gt;&gt; uh but yeah, that's a lot, hun. Uh long &gt;&gt; uh but yeah, that's a lot, hun. Uh long term, what running and strength training term, what running and strength training term, what running and strength training looks like for most people, uh is if you looks like for most people, uh is if you looks like for most people, uh is if you want to run a lot, let's say 15 miles a want to run a lot, let's say 15 miles a want to run a lot, let's say 15 miles a week, uh then strength training is about week, uh then strength training is about week, uh then strength training is about one day a week. If you want to combine one day a week. If you want to combine one day a week. If you want to combine the two, it could be 20 miles one week, the two, it could be 20 miles one week, the two, it could be 20 miles one week, then the next week it's just strength then the next week it's just strength then the next week it's just strength training. So you alternate something training. So you alternate something training. So you alternate something like that with something like that with like that with something like that with like that with something like that with good nutrition. Okay. good nutrition. Okay. good nutrition. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've heard you talk about that the &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've heard you talk about that the &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've heard you talk about that the flipping off. flipping off. flipping off. &gt;&gt; Exactly. And then and then as far as the &gt;&gt; Exactly. And then and then as far as the &gt;&gt; Exactly. And then and then as far as the birth control is concerned, um you I birth control is concerned, um you I birth control is concerned, um you I would talk to your doctor or find a would talk to your doctor or find a would talk to your doctor or find a hormone specialist and say, "Look, my hormone specialist and say, "Look, my hormone specialist and say, "Look, my goal is to not have to take this. What goal is to not have to take this. What goal is to not have to take this. What do I need to do? What can we do?" And do I need to do? What can we do?" And do I need to do? What can we do?" And and I I'm okay with giving it some time. and I I'm okay with giving it some time. and I I'm okay with giving it some time. &gt;&gt; Uh because I agree with you. I think &gt;&gt; Uh because I agree with you. I think &gt;&gt; Uh because I agree with you. I think four months without a period. I mean, four months without a period. I mean, four months without a period. I mean, I've worked with clients who didn't have I've worked with clients who didn't have I've worked with clients who didn't have a period for two years, three years, a period for two years, three years, a period for two years, three years, four years. four years. four years. &gt;&gt; So, um, it takes a little time. I mean, &gt;&gt; So, um, it takes a little time. I mean, &gt;&gt; So, um, it takes a little time. I mean, I had one I remember I had one client, I had one I remember I had one client, I had one I remember I had one client, she didn't have a period for years. We she didn't have a period for years. We she didn't have a period for years. We did the reverse diet, the whole deal, did the reverse diet, the whole deal, did the reverse diet, the whole deal, and I think she got her per it was like and I think she got her per it was like and I think she got her per it was like six, seven months later, and then she six, seven months later, and then she six, seven months later, and then she ended up getting pregnant. So, it could ended up getting pregnant. So, it could ended up getting pregnant. So, it could take a little while, especially if you take a little while, especially if you take a little while, especially if you if you were on it for so long. Um, so if you were on it for so long. Um, so if you were on it for so long. Um, so you can definitely work with them, and you can definitely work with them, and you can definitely work with them, and uh, I'm hopeful for that, especially cuz uh, I'm hopeful for that, especially cuz uh, I'm hopeful for that, especially cuz you're young. But with exercise, I mean, you're young. But with exercise, I mean, you're young. But with exercise, I mean, you can ramp it up, but 25 miles a week you can ramp it up, but 25 miles a week you can ramp it up, but 25 miles a week with three to four days a week, like with three to four days a week, like with three to four days a week, like that's not going to that's never going that's not going to that's never going that's not going to that's never going to be a regular thing. That just doesn't to be a regular thing. That just doesn't to be a regular thing. That just doesn't happen. happen. happen. &gt;&gt; Sorry. &gt;&gt; Sorry. &gt;&gt; Sorry. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; No, I understand. &gt;&gt; No, I understand. &gt;&gt; No, I understand. &gt;&gt; Does that make you sad? &gt;&gt; Does that make you sad? &gt;&gt; Does that make you sad? &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, &gt;&gt; a little bit. I just I don't know. I did &gt;&gt; a little bit. I just I don't know. I did &gt;&gt; a little bit. I just I don't know. I did feel like I could take over the world feel like I could take over the world feel like I could take over the world when I was doing all of this. when I was doing all of this. when I was doing all of this. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Until your body. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Until your body. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Until your body. &gt;&gt; Until your body gave you the middle &gt;&gt; Until your body gave you the middle &gt;&gt; Until your body gave you the middle finger. finger. finger. &gt;&gt; Can you do what if you did running one &gt;&gt; Can you do what if you did running one &gt;&gt; Can you do what if you did running one week and strength training the other week and strength training the other week and strength training the other week? Would that be week? Would that be week? Would that be &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've never done that. I would like &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've never done that. I would like &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've never done that. I would like I mean yeah I could try it I mean yeah I could try it I mean yeah I could try it &gt;&gt; if you it's a great approach. It's a &gt;&gt; if you it's a great approach. It's a &gt;&gt; if you it's a great approach. It's a really great approach for people who really great approach for people who really great approach for people who like both. like both. like both. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So I've already had a few people now &gt;&gt; So I've already had a few people now &gt;&gt; So I've already had a few people now call in and explain their experience call in and explain their experience call in and explain their experience doing that and they've gotten better at doing that and they've gotten better at doing that and they've gotten better at the running and the strength training. the running and the strength training. the running and the strength training. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; By doing both. &gt;&gt; By doing both. &gt;&gt; By doing both. &gt;&gt; You stronger, more resilient, you get &gt;&gt; You stronger, more resilient, you get &gt;&gt; You stronger, more resilient, you get recovery, you know, it's it's just a recovery, you know, it's it's just a recovery, you know, it's it's just a better approach, you know, long term for better approach, you know, long term for better approach, you know, long term for that. that. that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; You could even try that now. I think if &gt;&gt; You could even try that now. I think if &gt;&gt; You could even try that now. I think if you're bumping your calories. you're bumping your calories. you're bumping your calories. &gt;&gt; Where are calories at again? Where we at &gt;&gt; Where are calories at again? Where we at &gt;&gt; Where are calories at again? Where we at right now? right now? right now? &gt;&gt; Well, previously in our first call, I &gt;&gt; Well, previously in our first call, I &gt;&gt; Well, previously in our first call, I was probably like 1,900 to 21,100. Now was probably like 1,900 to 21,100. Now was probably like 1,900 to 21,100. Now I'm probably eating like 2,800 I'm probably eating like 2,800 I'm probably eating like 2,800 sometimes. sometimes. sometimes. &gt;&gt; I mean, I still have days where I eat &gt;&gt; I mean, I still have days where I eat &gt;&gt; I mean, I still have days where I eat probably 4,000 calories. Like I just probably 4,000 calories. Like I just probably 4,000 calories. Like I just [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] &gt;&gt; I don't know, maybe I'm going to make &gt;&gt; I don't know, maybe I'm going to make &gt;&gt; I don't know, maybe I'm going to make pasta or something. pasta or something. pasta or something. &gt;&gt; Yeah. If you want to try if you want to &gt;&gt; Yeah. If you want to try if you want to &gt;&gt; Yeah. If you want to try if you want to try running and strength training, you try running and strength training, you try running and strength training, you could slowly ramp up your running, but could slowly ramp up your running, but could slowly ramp up your running, but it would be uh every other week. So it' it would be uh every other week. So it' it would be uh every other week. So it' be running one week. So, when you do be running one week. So, when you do be running one week. So, when you do your workout, it's a run and then the your workout, it's a run and then the your workout, it's a run and then the next week it would be strength training next week it would be strength training next week it would be strength training and then see how you feel. and then see how you feel. and then see how you feel. &gt;&gt; Can we back up though and just kind of &gt;&gt; Can we back up though and just kind of &gt;&gt; Can we back up though and just kind of celebrate some of the really positive celebrate some of the really positive celebrate some of the really positive stuff that's happened right now? Um, 60 stuff that's happened right now? Um, 60 stuff that's happened right now? Um, 60 days you've gone from like uh 1,900 days you've gone from like uh 1,900 days you've gone from like uh 1,900 21,100 calories to 2,800 plus calories. 21,100 calories to 2,800 plus calories. 21,100 calories to 2,800 plus calories. You only put 5 lbs on. We reduced the You only put 5 lbs on. We reduced the You only put 5 lbs on. We reduced the volume of training, strength training, volume of training, strength training, volume of training, strength training, and reduced your running. And and reduced your running. And and reduced your running. And &gt;&gt; that's crazy. &gt;&gt; that's crazy. &gt;&gt; that's crazy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Do you feel strong? Do you feel stronger &gt;&gt; Do you feel strong? Do you feel stronger &gt;&gt; Do you feel strong? Do you feel stronger in your lifts? in your lifts? in your lifts? &gt;&gt; Yeah. I so like maybe months ago when I &gt;&gt; Yeah. I so like maybe months ago when I &gt;&gt; Yeah. I so like maybe months ago when I was running a lot and everything, I was was running a lot and everything, I was was running a lot and everything, I was like I I had been able to bench press I like I I had been able to bench press I like I I had been able to bench press I think my one rep max one rep max was 165 think my one rep max one rep max was 165 think my one rep max one rep max was 165 for one and then I was able to do 135 for one and then I was able to do 135 for one and then I was able to do 135 for two like my the running totally for two like my the running totally for two like my the running totally decreased that and now I can do 135 for decreased that and now I can do 135 for decreased that and now I can do 135 for six for three sets of six. six for three sets of six. six for three sets of six. &gt;&gt; Wow. So &gt;&gt; Wow. So &gt;&gt; Wow. So &gt;&gt; that's really strong, right Alissa? You &gt;&gt; that's really strong, right Alissa? You &gt;&gt; that's really strong, right Alissa? You know that's a really strong know that's a really strong know that's a really strong &gt;&gt; bench press. Yeah, you you are strong. &gt;&gt; bench press. Yeah, you you are strong. &gt;&gt; bench press. Yeah, you you are strong. You are doing great. You are doing great. You are doing great. &gt;&gt; Uh 5 lbs on the scale 60 days reducing &gt;&gt; Uh 5 lbs on the scale 60 days reducing &gt;&gt; Uh 5 lbs on the scale 60 days reducing all that volume and intensity and all that volume and intensity and all that volume and intensity and increasing those cal like uh you are on increasing those cal like uh you are on increasing those cal like uh you are on a perfect path right now. a perfect path right now. a perfect path right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; I I don't want to I don't want to mess &gt;&gt; I I don't want to I don't want to mess &gt;&gt; I I don't want to I don't want to mess with and honestly the big gauge for me with and honestly the big gauge for me with and honestly the big gauge for me would be like let's just continue down would be like let's just continue down would be like let's just continue down this path and let's focus on getting off this path and let's focus on getting off this path and let's focus on getting off the birth control because I think that's the birth control because I think that's the birth control because I think that's in your future. I think feeding yourself in your future. I think feeding yourself in your future. I think feeding yourself like this, training at this volume, uh, like this, training at this volume, uh, like this, training at this volume, uh, the way you are, just let's get strong. the way you are, just let's get strong. the way you are, just let's get strong. Yeah. And and keep doing what you're Yeah. And and keep doing what you're Yeah. And and keep doing what you're doing right now. doing right now. doing right now. &gt;&gt; If we could tip you into the strong, uh, &gt;&gt; If we could tip you into the strong, uh, &gt;&gt; If we could tip you into the strong, uh, side of things a little bit more, you side of things a little bit more, you side of things a little bit more, you know, eventually, uh, you know, it's know, eventually, uh, you know, it's know, eventually, uh, you know, it's going to benefit your body a lot more. I going to benefit your body a lot more. I going to benefit your body a lot more. I don't know if that's interest. Yeah. don't know if that's interest. Yeah. don't know if that's interest. Yeah. Like some kind of like strong pursuit as Like some kind of like strong pursuit as Like some kind of like strong pursuit as I know like, you know, it's an I know like, you know, it's an I know like, you know, it's an accomplishment thing that's kind of accomplishment thing that's kind of accomplishment thing that's kind of driving you with this this running. Uh, driving you with this this running. Uh, driving you with this this running. Uh, you know, if you could kind of redirect you know, if you could kind of redirect you know, if you could kind of redirect that a bit for a while. I I was 15 that a bit for a while. I I was 15 that a bit for a while. I I was 15 strong or 15 powerlifting. strong or 15 powerlifting. strong or 15 powerlifting. &gt;&gt; Powerlift. Have you ever done a Have you &gt;&gt; Powerlift. Have you ever done a Have you &gt;&gt; Powerlift. Have you ever done a Have you ever tried be awesome? ever tried be awesome? ever tried be awesome? &gt;&gt; You ever tried powerlifting style &gt;&gt; You ever tried powerlifting style &gt;&gt; You ever tried powerlifting style training? training? training? &gt;&gt; No, I have. My brother actually did &gt;&gt; No, I have. My brother actually did &gt;&gt; No, I have. My brother actually did powerlifting. He's in high school and so powerlifting. He's in high school and so powerlifting. He's in high school and so that was like my first time even seeing that was like my first time even seeing that was like my first time even seeing it. But I think it's cool. I would I it. But I think it's cool. I would I it. But I think it's cool. I would I think I'd enjoy it. think I'd enjoy it. think I'd enjoy it. &gt;&gt; You would be really good at it. &gt;&gt; You would be really good at it. &gt;&gt; You would be really good at it. &gt;&gt; I bet you could be competitive. Just so &gt;&gt; I bet you could be competitive. Just so &gt;&gt; I bet you could be competitive. Just so you know, a female who could bench press you know, a female who could bench press you know, a female who could bench press 135 for six is exceptionally strong. 135 for six is exceptionally strong. 135 for six is exceptionally strong. &gt;&gt; A fe a female that can bench 135 for one &gt;&gt; A fe a female that can bench 135 for one &gt;&gt; A fe a female that can bench 135 for one is really strong. So, you're strong and is really strong. So, you're strong and is really strong. So, you're strong and you have a lot of potential then. you have a lot of potential then. you have a lot of potential then. &gt;&gt; Got a whole new flex there for sure for &gt;&gt; Got a whole new flex there for sure for &gt;&gt; Got a whole new flex there for sure for you. you. you. &gt;&gt; You want to try that? &gt;&gt; You want to try that? &gt;&gt; You want to try that? &gt;&gt; I I I mean I I have thought about &gt;&gt; I I I mean I I have thought about &gt;&gt; I I I mean I I have thought about competing. I mean, I don't know much competing. I mean, I don't know much competing. I mean, I don't know much about it, but I always think if I'm about it, but I always think if I'm about it, but I always think if I'm going to compete like I want to win. going to compete like I want to win. going to compete like I want to win. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, and I would love and we &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, and I would love and we &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, and I would love and we would we would all love to see you would we would all love to see you would we would all love to see you compete in that. That would be that compete in that. That would be that compete in that. That would be that would serve you and your body. would serve you and your body. would serve you and your body. &gt;&gt; Your body would do a lot better with &gt;&gt; Your body would do a lot better with &gt;&gt; Your body would do a lot better with that. that. that. &gt;&gt; Let's do let's do 15 powerlift. I'll &gt;&gt; Let's do let's do 15 powerlift. I'll &gt;&gt; Let's do let's do 15 powerlift. I'll have Doug send it over to you. Um, and have Doug send it over to you. Um, and have Doug send it over to you. Um, and then stay on this course and I'd love to then stay on this course and I'd love to then stay on this course and I'd love to hear back from you again. I think you're hear back from you again. I think you're hear back from you again. I think you're doing I think you're doing phenomenal. doing I think you're doing phenomenal. doing I think you're doing phenomenal. &gt;&gt; I'd be uh competing. [laughter] &gt;&gt; I'd be uh competing. [laughter] &gt;&gt; I'd be uh competing. [laughter] &gt;&gt; That would be rad. &gt;&gt; That would be rad. &gt;&gt; That would be rad. &gt;&gt; I think you I think you'd win. I mean &gt;&gt; I think you I think you'd win. I mean &gt;&gt; I think you I think you'd win. I mean &gt;&gt; Yeah. I want to I want to hear you. I &gt;&gt; Yeah. I want to I want to hear you. I &gt;&gt; Yeah. I want to I want to hear you. I want to hear your numbers after you go want to hear your numbers after you go want to hear your numbers after you go through 15 powerlift. I just want to through 15 powerlift. I just want to through 15 powerlift. I just want to hear where you're at. hear where you're at. hear where you're at. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You want to get back on in a few &gt;&gt; Yeah. You want to get back on in a few &gt;&gt; Yeah. You want to get back on in a few months? months? months? &gt;&gt; Sure. Thank you for this challenge. And &gt;&gt; Sure. Thank you for this challenge. And &gt;&gt; Sure. Thank you for this challenge. And it's not like running focus. it's not like running focus. it's not like running focus. &gt;&gt; Totally. Let's go. Let's go. Great. &gt;&gt; Totally. Let's go. Let's go. Great. &gt;&gt; Totally. Let's go. Let's go. Great. Change. 15 powerlift. And let's see Change. 15 powerlift. And let's see Change. 15 powerlift. And let's see those lifts. I want to I want to I want those lifts. I want to I want to I want those lifts. I want to I want to I want to check back in with you. to check back in with you. to check back in with you. &gt;&gt; Oh man. Okay. Thank you. This is so &gt;&gt; Oh man. Okay. Thank you. This is so &gt;&gt; Oh man. Okay. Thank you. This is so exciting. I I really have to thank you exciting. I I really have to thank you exciting. I I really have to thank you guys. You've changed my whole body and guys. You've changed my whole body and guys. You've changed my whole body and like my brain. like my brain. like my brain. I really thank you. I really thank you. I really thank you. &gt;&gt; You're doing great. You're doing great. &gt;&gt; You're doing great. You're doing great. &gt;&gt; You're doing great. You're doing great. Awesome. Yeah. I can't wait to check Awesome. Yeah. I can't wait to check Awesome. Yeah. I can't wait to check back in with you. back in with you. back in with you. &gt;&gt; Making a lot of progress for sure. &gt;&gt; Making a lot of progress for sure. &gt;&gt; Making a lot of progress for sure. &gt;&gt; Thank you. You give great advice. You're &gt;&gt; Thank you. You give great advice. You're &gt;&gt; Thank you. You give great advice. You're like dads to me. So like dads to me. So like dads to me. So &gt;&gt; Oh, thank you. &gt;&gt; Oh, thank you. &gt;&gt; Oh, thank you. &gt;&gt; All right, Elissa. We'll see you soon. &gt;&gt; All right, Elissa. We'll see you soon. &gt;&gt; All right, Elissa. We'll see you soon. &gt;&gt; We'll see you soon. &gt;&gt; We'll see you soon. &gt;&gt; We'll see you soon. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; Thank you so much. &gt;&gt; Thank you so much. &gt;&gt; Thank you so much. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; Good job, Justin. Justin nailed it. He &gt;&gt; Good job, Justin. Justin nailed it. He &gt;&gt; Good job, Justin. Justin nailed it. He he he sensed the competitive that's what he he sensed the competitive that's what he he sensed the competitive that's what she likes. she likes. she likes. &gt;&gt; She's got the spirit. &gt;&gt; She's got the spirit. &gt;&gt; She's got the spirit. &gt;&gt; And as soon as we told her, you know, &gt;&gt; And as soon as we told her, you know, &gt;&gt; And as soon as we told her, you know, pushed her in a competitive direction pushed her in a competitive direction pushed her in a competitive direction that was better. Her face lit up like that was better. Her face lit up like that was better. Her face lit up like really good job picking that up. really good job picking that up. really good job picking that up. &gt;&gt; Yeah. But &gt;&gt; Yeah. But &gt;&gt; Yeah. But &gt;&gt; yeah. No, that she's going to do great. &gt;&gt; yeah. No, that she's going to do great. &gt;&gt; yeah. No, that she's going to do great. &gt;&gt; I'll tell you what's frustrating &gt;&gt; I'll tell you what's frustrating &gt;&gt; I'll tell you what's frustrating &gt;&gt; that she's young and after 4 months of &gt;&gt; that she's young and after 4 months of &gt;&gt; that she's young and after 4 months of no period, doctor's like, "Birth no period, doctor's like, "Birth no period, doctor's like, "Birth control." control." control." &gt;&gt; Yeah. Why? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Why? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Why? &gt;&gt; I know. &gt;&gt; I know. &gt;&gt; I know. &gt;&gt; Especially since &gt;&gt; Especially since &gt;&gt; Especially since &gt;&gt; you got to give it time, dude. &gt;&gt; you got to give it time, dude. &gt;&gt; you got to give it time, dude. &gt;&gt; Especially since they recognized that it &gt;&gt; Especially since they recognized that it &gt;&gt; Especially since they recognized that it was a stress thing, undereating type of was a stress thing, undereating type of was a stress thing, undereating type of deal. And then we've got her eating deal. And then we've got her eating deal. And then we've got her eating more. more. more. &gt;&gt; I don't understand it. There may be more &gt;&gt; I don't understand it. There may be more &gt;&gt; I don't understand it. There may be more stuff that we don't know. So, I want to stuff that we don't know. So, I want to stuff that we don't know. So, I want to be very careful. But if this is all of be very careful. But if this is all of be very careful. But if this is all of the information, if it really was that the information, if it really was that the information, if it really was that the doctor's like, "It was stress and the doctor's like, "It was stress and the doctor's like, "It was stress and overtraining and they're like, "But, you overtraining and they're like, "But, you overtraining and they're like, "But, you know, 4 months without a period, let's know, 4 months without a period, let's know, 4 months without a period, let's throw in birth control." Like, I don't throw in birth control." Like, I don't throw in birth control." Like, I don't know if that's a good idea. know if that's a good idea. know if that's a good idea. &gt;&gt; No, no, &gt;&gt; No, no, &gt;&gt; No, no, &gt;&gt; no, dude. Not this. It sucks, too, &gt;&gt; no, dude. Not this. It sucks, too, &gt;&gt; no, dude. Not this. It sucks, too, because I bet you she's she was right because I bet you she's she was right because I bet you she's she was right around the corner from that coming back. around the corner from that coming back. around the corner from that coming back. &gt;&gt; Dude, it could take a while. &gt;&gt; Dude, it could take a while. &gt;&gt; Dude, it could take a while. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. One of If you did, check this one out. One of If you did, check this one out. One of the keys to fat loss is protein. [music] the keys to fat loss is protein. [music] the keys to fat loss is protein. [music] It's true. True. If you're not eating a It's true. True. If you're not eating a It's true. True. 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I think it was probably almost 10 years in when I started to almost 10 years in when I started to almost 10 years in when I started to just focus [music] on this with clients. just focus [music] on this with clients. just focus [music] on this with clients. &gt;&gt; I knew it was important, but I don't &gt;&gt; I knew it was important, but I don't &gt;&gt; I knew it was important, but I don't know how important. know how important. know how important. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I also did I knew what was &gt;&gt; Yeah. I also did I knew what was &gt;&gt; Yeah. I also did I knew what was important and but I also