The Truth About Insulin Sensitivity & Muscle Growth | Mind Pump 2822

Welcome to the show, Rhett. Welcome to the show, Rhett. >> Thanks for having me. >> Thanks for having me. >> Thanks for having me. >> Yeah. So, tell us a little bit about >> Yeah. So, tell us a little bit about >> Yeah. So, tell us a little bit about what you do, your background, um, so the what you do, your background, um, so the what you do, your background, um, so the audience can kind of know where you're audience can kind of know where you're audience can kind of know where you're coming from. coming from. coming from. >> Yeah. So, primarily I run a clinic in >> Yeah. So, primarily I run a clinic in >> Yeah. So, primarily I run a clinic in Houston, Texas. It's called Thrive Houston, Texas. It's called Thrive Houston, Texas. It's called Thrive Medicine. And we specialize in metabolic Medicine. And we specialize in metabolic Medicine. And we specialize in metabolic health, sexual health, you know, I'm health, sexual health, you know, I'm health, sexual health, you know, I'm boarded in anesthesia and pain medicine. boarded in anesthesia and pain medicine. boarded in anesthesia and pain medicine. That's my traditional training. That's my traditional training. That's my traditional training. >> Okay. And then I spent the last seven >> Okay. And then I spent the last seven >> Okay. And then I spent the last seven years after Dr. Training really learning years after Dr. Training really learning years after Dr. Training really learning how to actually, you know, make people how to actually, you know, make people how to actually, you know, make people well. well. well. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> explain metabolic health and what that >> explain metabolic health and what that >> explain metabolic health and what that cuz that's you hear that a lot now. Like cuz that's you hear that a lot now. Like cuz that's you hear that a lot now. Like this is like a big thing now in this is like a big thing now in this is like a big thing now in medicine or in treatment or in the medicine or in treatment or in the medicine or in treatment or in the wellness space like what is that wellness space like what is that wellness space like what is that exactly? exactly? exactly? >> Yeah. Yeah. So, when you go on this >> Yeah. Yeah. So, when you go on this >> Yeah. Yeah. So, when you go on this crusade to try to help people and you crusade to try to help people and you crusade to try to help people and you look at, let's just say, this large list look at, let's just say, this large list look at, let's just say, this large list of symptoms that people have, whether of symptoms that people have, whether of symptoms that people have, whether it's, you know, and I I break it down it's, you know, and I I break it down it's, you know, and I I break it down into like two large factions. There's into like two large factions. There's into like two large factions. There's sick people and there's people with sick people and there's people with sick people and there's people with problems that may not be determined as problems that may not be determined as problems that may not be determined as sick by the medical community, right? sick by the medical community, right? sick by the medical community, right? So, sick people could be like, hey, I So, sick people could be like, hey, I So, sick people could be like, hey, I have cancer, dementia, uh sexual have cancer, dementia, uh sexual have cancer, dementia, uh sexual dysfunction, cardiovascular disease, and dysfunction, cardiovascular disease, and dysfunction, cardiovascular disease, and then over here is this, you know, then over here is this, you know, then over here is this, you know, esoteric, not otherwise specified. I esoteric, not otherwise specified. I esoteric, not otherwise specified. I have fatigue, brain fog, have fatigue, brain fog, have fatigue, brain fog, >> um I have, you know, skin inflammation, >> um I have, you know, skin inflammation, >> um I have, you know, skin inflammation, uh sleep disorder, etc., mood liability. uh sleep disorder, etc., mood liability. uh sleep disorder, etc., mood liability. When you look at all of that stuff, the When you look at all of that stuff, the When you look at all of that stuff, the really at the bottom of that rabbit hole really at the bottom of that rabbit hole really at the bottom of that rabbit hole is the is the term metabolic is the is the term metabolic is the is the term metabolic dysfunction, right? And dysfunction, right? And dysfunction, right? And real simple definition of that is the real simple definition of that is the real simple definition of that is the physi the physiologic um processes in physi the physiologic um processes in physi the physiologic um processes in the body are not functioning properly the body are not functioning properly the body are not functioning properly right and it starts with looking at right and it starts with looking at right and it starts with looking at glucose glucose glucose looking at fat and then that translates looking at fat and then that translates looking at fat and then that translates into worse things like cardiovascular into worse things like cardiovascular into worse things like cardiovascular disease like we said sexual dysfunction disease like we said sexual dysfunction disease like we said sexual dysfunction issues with the brain so on and so issues with the brain so on and so issues with the brain so on and so forth. Okay. So, it's essentially the forth. Okay. So, it's essentially the forth. Okay. So, it's essentially the you're looking at taking you're looking at taking you're looking at taking um what you consume and turning it into um what you consume and turning it into um what you consume and turning it into energy in that process. Although I just energy in that process. Although I just energy in that process. Although I just simplified it, it's a very like complex simplified it, it's a very like complex simplified it, it's a very like complex process. We're talking about met the process. We're talking about met the process. We're talking about met the metabolism. There's a lot of things that metabolism. There's a lot of things that metabolism. There's a lot of things that are happening. are happening. are happening. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean, if I said to you like, >> Yeah. I mean, if I said to you like, >> Yeah. I mean, if I said to you like, "Hey, food is fuel." You'd say, "Okay, "Hey, food is fuel." You'd say, "Okay, "Hey, food is fuel." You'd say, "Okay, cool. Podcast, bro. Great." But cool. Podcast, bro. Great." But cool. Podcast, bro. Great." But >> but essentially, you know, that's what >> but essentially, you know, that's what >> but essentially, you know, that's what it is. We're talking about like it is. We're talking about like it is. We're talking about like exchanging oxygen to CO2. taking in exchanging oxygen to CO2. taking in exchanging oxygen to CO2. taking in stuff, stuff, stuff, um, having your body utilize that um, having your body utilize that um, having your body utilize that appropriately and making sure that that appropriately and making sure that that appropriately and making sure that that physiologic process is dialed in. physiologic process is dialed in. physiologic process is dialed in. >> How much can this really affect >> How much can this really affect >> How much can this really affect someone's ability to build muscle or someone's ability to build muscle or someone's ability to build muscle or burn body fat efficiently? I mean, in burn body fat efficiently? I mean, in burn body fat efficiently? I mean, in our experience training tons of people, our experience training tons of people, our experience training tons of people, uh, I've experienced this where, you uh, I've experienced this where, you uh, I've experienced this where, you know, you know, you've got them on a know, you know, you've got them on a know, you know, you've got them on a good diet, uh, you're exercising good diet, uh, you're exercising good diet, uh, you're exercising correctly and then their body is just correctly and then their body is just correctly and then their body is just not responding and it's not adding up. not responding and it's not adding up. not responding and it's not adding up. And many times there's other root And many times there's other root And many times there's other root causes. So, like how significantly can causes. So, like how significantly can causes. So, like how significantly can it impact that ability to build muscle it impact that ability to build muscle it impact that ability to build muscle or burn body fat? or burn body fat? or burn body fat? >> Yeah, I think I think it's it's a huge >> Yeah, I think I think it's it's a huge >> Yeah, I think I think it's it's a huge impact, right? So it has a very very impact, right? So it has a very very impact, right? So it has a very very large impact if you and and honestly you large impact if you and and honestly you large impact if you and and honestly you know bodybuilders get this right they know bodybuilders get this right they know bodybuilders get this right they utilize insulin also to put on muscle utilize insulin also to put on muscle utilize insulin also to put on muscle right and they also know like I even saw right and they also know like I even saw right and they also know like I even saw you know of course the algorithm has has you know of course the algorithm has has you know of course the algorithm has has control of me but I saw the other day control of me but I saw the other day control of me but I saw the other day one guy was touting he's like hey if one guy was touting he's like hey if one guy was touting he's like hey if you're if you're fat already or if you you're if you're fat already or if you you're if you're fat already or if you can't see your abs don't try to put on can't see your abs don't try to put on can't see your abs don't try to put on muscle so they're already catching on to muscle so they're already catching on to muscle so they're already catching on to the fact that it's not just calories in the fact that it's not just calories in the fact that it's not just calories in calories out you know that you know how calories out you know that you know how calories out you know that you know how much we eat and what we eat is really much we eat and what we eat is really much we eat and what we eat is really really important but when we look at really important but when we look at really important but when we look at what's going on underneath the surface. what's going on underneath the surface. what's going on underneath the surface. It has a huge effect on our performance, It has a huge effect on our performance, It has a huge effect on our performance, whether we're putting on holding on to whether we're putting on holding on to whether we're putting on holding on to fat or adding that to muscle and then fat or adding that to muscle and then fat or adding that to muscle and then all the other problems that come from all the other problems that come from all the other problems that come from that process not being dialed in. that process not being dialed in. that process not being dialed in. >> Now, doesn't exercise uh um applied >> Now, doesn't exercise uh um applied >> Now, doesn't exercise uh um applied appropriately and diet improve uh the appropriately and diet improve uh the appropriately and diet improve uh the metabolic um health of somebody? Like metabolic um health of somebody? Like metabolic um health of somebody? Like those are also methods that can help those are also methods that can help those are also methods that can help with that, right? with that, right? with that, right? >> Yeah, a thousand%. I mean even so I >> Yeah, a thousand%. I mean even so I >> Yeah, a thousand%. I mean even so I would say like that's I hate to get to would say like that's I hate to get to would say like that's I hate to get to the point but that's the overarching the point but that's the overarching the point but that's the overarching theme right um lifestyle modification theme right um lifestyle modification theme right um lifestyle modification and if you look at so you're going to and if you look at so you're going to and if you look at so you're going to hear me talk about these studies a lot hear me talk about these studies a lot hear me talk about these studies a lot but some of the really really large but some of the really really large but some of the really really large behavioral modification studies one of behavioral modification studies one of behavioral modification studies one of them was diabetes pre prevention program them was diabetes pre prevention program them was diabetes pre prevention program the look ahead trial those were the look ahead trial those were the look ahead trial those were behavioral modification those studies behavioral modification those studies behavioral modification those studies were RCTs right and uh we're talking were RCTs right and uh we're talking were RCTs right and uh we're talking 5,000 people showing that behavioral 5,000 people showing that behavioral 5,000 people showing that behavioral modification most likely beat out other modification most likely beat out other modification most likely beat out other interventions, right? And what was that? interventions, right? And what was that? interventions, right? And what was that? That was looking at calorie intake, That was looking at calorie intake, That was looking at calorie intake, >> looking at physical activity, right? And >> looking at physical activity, right? And >> looking at physical activity, right? And then the other major thing here, the then the other major thing here, the then the other major thing here, the major thing, especially when we're major thing, especially when we're major thing, especially when we're talking about CGMs or what we do in our talking about CGMs or what we do in our talking about CGMs or what we do in our clinic is they had a structured program. clinic is they had a structured program. clinic is they had a structured program. So they put these people through a So they put these people through a So they put these people through a structured program, right? You just structured program, right? You just structured program, right? You just can't give someone data or tell them can't give someone data or tell them can't give someone data or tell them like, "Hey, eat more, move less." Like like, "Hey, eat more, move less." Like like, "Hey, eat more, move less." Like cool. You have to spend time with these cool. You have to spend time with these cool. You have to spend time with these people and teach them and uh you know people and teach them and uh you know people and teach them and uh you know modify that as you go along. modify that as you go along. modify that as you go along. >> So what made you move from so you were >> So what made you move from so you were >> So what made you move from so you were you an anesthesiologist or trained as you an anesthesiologist or trained as you an anesthesiologist or trained as one? Did you practice? one? Did you practice? one? Did you practice? >> No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean I I still do >> No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean I I still do >> No. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean I I still do some anesthesia. some anesthesia. some anesthesia. >> Okay. So what made you move from there >> Okay. So what made you move from there >> Okay. So what made you move from there to to this space? is so different uh in to to this space? is so different uh in to to this space? is so different uh in in the sense that like you know in in the sense that like you know in in the sense that like you know in anesthesia uh you're you know you're anesthesia uh you're you know you're anesthesia uh you're you know you're titrating people's um anesthesia making titrating people's um anesthesia making titrating people's um anesthesia making sure everything's okay during surgery sure everything's okay during surgery sure everything's okay during surgery that's what you do now you're like cool that's what you do now you're like cool that's what you do now you're like cool let's look at your whole life let's look at your whole life let's look at your whole life >> let's look at your lifestyle let's look >> let's look at your lifestyle let's look >> let's look at your lifestyle let's look at your diet like what made you move at your diet like what made you move at your diet like what made you move into that space was there something that into that space was there something that into that space was there something that happened often times I talk to doctors happened often times I talk to doctors happened often times I talk to doctors who do that like they either had their who do that like they either had their who do that like they either had their own health issue or a family health is own health issue or a family health is own health issue or a family health is right was it something like that right was it something like that right was it something like that >> yeah I mean you know to answer the >> yeah I mean you know to answer the >> yeah I mean you know to answer the question first and then back up and tell question first and then back up and tell question first and then back up and tell the story. It was subtle and I think the story. It was subtle and I think the story. It was subtle and I think people relate to this. I thought I was people relate to this. I thought I was people relate to this. I thought I was healthy and felt bad and didn't know healthy and felt bad and didn't know healthy and felt bad and didn't know that, right? that, right? that, right? >> And you know, maybe you guys can relate. >> And you know, maybe you guys can relate. >> And you know, maybe you guys can relate. I was like, I was 90s fit, bro. Right? I was like, I was 90s fit, bro. Right? I was like, I was 90s fit, bro. Right? So, I was, this was prior to my So, I was, this was prior to my So, I was, this was prior to my awakening where awakening where awakening where >> I thought I was doing a bunch of stuff. >> I thought I was doing a bunch of stuff. >> I thought I was doing a bunch of stuff. was going to the gym twice a day, you was going to the gym twice a day, you was going to the gym twice a day, you know, and back in the day, maybe you can know, and back in the day, maybe you can know, and back in the day, maybe you can relate, was ino explode, muscle mill, relate, was ino explode, muscle mill, relate, was ino explode, muscle mill, >> good time, >> good time, >> good time, >> cell tech. >> cell tech. >> cell tech. >> Yeah, we're all the same age. >> Yeah, we're all the same age. >> Yeah, we're all the same age. >> I'm dating myself, right? >> I'm dating myself, right? >> I'm dating myself, right? >> We're all the same age. >> We're all the same age. >> We're all the same age. >> Uh, you know, Men's Health magazine was >> Uh, you know, Men's Health magazine was >> Uh, you know, Men's Health magazine was my bible my bible my bible >> and you know, at that time, don't judge >> and you know, at that time, don't judge >> and you know, at that time, don't judge me, this was like dialup, so checking me, this was like dialup, so checking me, this was like dialup, so checking the sources was not a thing, right? So, the sources was not a thing, right? So, the sources was not a thing, right? So, if Men's Health told me like, "Hey, if Men's Health told me like, "Hey, if Men's Health told me like, "Hey, tequila, tequila stimulates metabolism," tequila, tequila stimulates metabolism," tequila, tequila stimulates metabolism," like, "All right, cool." Like tequila, like, "All right, cool." Like tequila, like, "All right, cool." Like tequila, right? right? right? >> Um, you know, calming your nervous >> Um, you know, calming your nervous >> Um, you know, calming your nervous system or mental fitness was two drinks, system or mental fitness was two drinks, system or mental fitness was two drinks, lie in bed, negative feedback loop, lie in bed, negative feedback loop, lie in bed, negative feedback loop, right? Like, you suck, bro. right? Like, you suck, bro. right? Like, you suck, bro. Like, that's that's how I was taught. Like, that's that's how I was taught. Like, that's that's how I was taught. That's how we grew up. That's how we grew up. That's how we grew up. >> Um, and then, you know, choosing the >> Um, and then, you know, choosing the >> Um, and then, you know, choosing the wrong relationships, right? So it wasn't wrong relationships, right? So it wasn't wrong relationships, right? So it wasn't until and again, you know, let's just until and again, you know, let's just until and again, you know, let's just I'll stop joking just for a second. So I'll stop joking just for a second. So I'll stop joking just for a second. So going through doctor school and doctors going through doctor school and doctors going through doctor school and doctors get hazed a lot a lot about like, oh, get hazed a lot a lot about like, oh, get hazed a lot a lot about like, oh, it's not appropriate training or it's it's not appropriate training or it's it's not appropriate training or it's out of context and and I will totally out of context and and I will totally out of context and and I will totally say on this podcast that there's an say on this podcast that there's an say on this podcast that there's an indoctrination in every professional indoctrination in every professional indoctrination in every professional school, right? school, right? school, right? >> However, doctor school broke my ass to >> However, doctor school broke my ass to >> However, doctor school broke my ass to be a really, really badass doctor, be a really, really badass doctor, be a really, really badass doctor, right? Like it will turn you into a right? Like it will turn you into a right? Like it will turn you into a warrior. And when you do procedural warrior. And when you do procedural warrior. And when you do procedural medicine like anesthesia, you h you you medicine like anesthesia, you h you you medicine like anesthesia, you h you you have to you do one, you suck. You do have to you do one, you suck. You do have to you do one, you suck. You do 10,000, you're badass. Right? 10,000, you're badass. Right? 10,000, you're badass. Right? >> And I don't say that arrogantly, but you >> And I don't say that arrogantly, but you >> And I don't say that arrogantly, but you know, back to the story, like when I met know, back to the story, like when I met know, back to the story, like when I met my wife, she was like, "Hey, you know, my wife, she was like, "Hey, you know, my wife, she was like, "Hey, you know, are those dark circles under your eyes? are those dark circles under your eyes? are those dark circles under your eyes? Is that like a birthark?" And I was Is that like a birthark?" And I was Is that like a birthark?" And I was like, "No, that's probably something like, "No, that's probably something like, "No, that's probably something else that's really, really bad." Right? else that's really, really bad." Right? else that's really, really bad." Right? I was irritable, moody. Um, and because I was irritable, moody. Um, and because I was irritable, moody. Um, and because of Dr. school like I knew how to sleep 4 of Dr. school like I knew how to sleep 4 of Dr. school like I knew how to sleep 4 hours and get it all done, right? Drink hours and get it all done, right? Drink hours and get it all done, right? Drink late at night to help myself go to late at night to help myself go to late at night to help myself go to sleep. Wake up at 6:00 and I can handle sleep. Wake up at 6:00 and I can handle sleep. Wake up at 6:00 and I can handle it all, right? it all, right? it all, right? >> So, that was just a wakeup call, right? >> So, that was just a wakeup call, right? >> So, that was just a wakeup call, right? I was like, "Okay, I feel good. Um, but I was like, "Okay, I feel good. Um, but I was like, "Okay, I feel good. Um, but something else is going on." I was something else is going on." I was something else is going on." I was hitting the gym twice a day and I had I hitting the gym twice a day and I had I hitting the gym twice a day and I had I was puffy fit. was puffy fit. was puffy fit. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You guys probably can relate that to I >> You guys probably can relate that to I >> You guys probably can relate that to I was like puffy fit, right? was like puffy fit, right? was like puffy fit, right? >> And so, I knew I had to do something. I >> And so, I knew I had to do something. I >> And so, I knew I had to do something. I was like, "Okay, well, this isn't was like, "Okay, well, this isn't was like, "Okay, well, this isn't working." Um, Sarah, my wife, kind of working." Um, Sarah, my wife, kind of working." Um, Sarah, my wife, kind of jolted me into action like, "Hey, you jolted me into action like, "Hey, you jolted me into action like, "Hey, you don't look good either." I was like, don't look good either." I was like, don't look good either." I was like, "Well, I don't know. I'm hitting the gym "Well, I don't know. I'm hitting the gym "Well, I don't know. I'm hitting the gym twice a day. It's great." twice a day. It's great." twice a day. It's great." >> And I realized all my other friends who >> And I realized all my other friends who >> And I realized all my other friends who were doctors also had no idea how to were doctors also had no idea how to were doctors also had no idea how to take care of themselves, right? take care of themselves, right? take care of themselves, right? >> So, to put put it back into context with >> So, to put put it back into context with >> So, to put put it back into context with doctor school, like, you know, if your doctor school, like, you know, if your doctor school, like, you know, if your arm fell off, I was your guy. You know, arm fell off, I was your guy. You know, arm fell off, I was your guy. You know, if you got impaled by a fence, I'm your if you got impaled by a fence, I'm your if you got impaled by a fence, I'm your guy. Right? If you have an anaphylactic guy. Right? If you have an anaphylactic guy. Right? If you have an anaphylactic reaction, I can help you. Fatigue, my reaction, I can help you. Fatigue, my reaction, I can help you. Fatigue, my penis doesn't work. you know, hey, my penis doesn't work. you know, hey, my penis doesn't work. you know, hey, my have some skin inflammation and brain have some skin inflammation and brain have some skin inflammation and brain fog. No idea. fog. No idea. fog. No idea. >> So, that kind of took me on the course >> So, that kind of took me on the course >> So, that kind of took me on the course of like, okay, well, we need to figure of like, okay, well, we need to figure of like, okay, well, we need to figure this out, right? I've got to do this out, right? I've got to do this out, right? I've got to do something different because I spent all something different because I spent all something different because I spent all of my life trying to become this thing of my life trying to become this thing of my life trying to become this thing and we need great doctors and I can save and we need great doctors and I can save and we need great doctors and I can save a life for sure, but can I save a life a life for sure, but can I save a life a life for sure, but can I save a life on the other end? on the other end? on the other end? >> We have a brand new workout program >> We have a brand new workout program >> We have a brand new workout program bundle called the spring bundle. Map bundle called the spring bundle. Map bundle called the spring bundle. Map Symmetry, Maps Prime, and the Advanced Symmetry, Maps Prime, and the Advanced Symmetry, Maps Prime, and the Advanced Train Techniques Guide. All of that Train Techniques Guide. All of that Train Techniques Guide. 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You're trained to look at things in that way. And so when you get things in that way. And so when you get things in that way. And so when you get pointed in the right direction, um some pointed in the right direction, um some pointed in the right direction, um some of the best in my experience working of the best in my experience working of the best in my experience working with uh doctors doing what you do, uh with uh doctors doing what you do, uh with uh doctors doing what you do, uh some of the best results happen because some of the best results happen because some of the best results happen because you've got that training. Where was the you've got that training. Where was the you've got that training. Where was the first place you looked or what were the first place you looked or what were the first place you looked or what were the first things you did for yourself uh to first things you did for yourself uh to first things you did for yourself uh to kind of move things in a different kind of move things in a different kind of move things in a different direction? direction? direction? >> Yeah, for me it was, you know, just >> Yeah, for me it was, you know, just >> Yeah, for me it was, you know, just personal was it was sleep, right? So um personal was it was sleep, right? So um personal was it was sleep, right? So um sleep is a superpower. I thought that sleep is a superpower. I thought that sleep is a superpower. I thought that five hours of sleep was just what we five hours of sleep was just what we five hours of sleep was just what we did. did. did. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Right. And honestly, um after I decided >> Right. And honestly, um after I decided >> Right. And honestly, um after I decided like, hey, this is something I need to like, hey, this is something I need to like, hey, this is something I need to work on or at least give myself a sleep work on or at least give myself a sleep work on or at least give myself a sleep window, like it's all a sudden like my window, like it's all a sudden like my window, like it's all a sudden like my brain woke up. Um but the other thing brain woke up. Um but the other thing brain woke up. Um but the other thing that I started looking into is like, that I started looking into is like, that I started looking into is like, okay, well, what am I eating? You know, okay, well, what am I eating? You know, okay, well, what am I eating? You know, who are the people in my life? All of who are the people in my life? All of who are the people in my life? All of the things that seem really, really the things that seem really, really the things that seem really, really basic to, you know, if I said them on basic to, you know, if I said them on basic to, you know, if I said them on the podcast, they're like, "Yeah, of the podcast, they're like, "Yeah, of the podcast, they're like, "Yeah, of course." Like that's how you fix course." Like that's how you fix course." Like that's how you fix yourself. yourself. yourself. But you have to understand and apply But you have to understand and apply But you have to understand and apply into your life and then do it over a into your life and then do it over a into your life and then do it over a long period of time. long period of time. long period of time. >> Right? So at the time when I was this >> Right? So at the time when I was this >> Right? So at the time when I was this period of discovery, I was literally period of discovery, I was literally period of discovery, I was literally just looking at stuff and then I would just looking at stuff and then I would just looking at stuff and then I would dive back right in. That's how I got dive back right in. That's how I got dive back right in. That's how I got connected to Neutri Sense. Right? If you connected to Neutri Sense. Right? If you connected to Neutri Sense. Right? If you really want me to tell that story, I was really want me to tell that story, I was really want me to tell that story, I was at the time Neutriense was new. And now at the time Neutriense was new. And now at the time Neutriense was new. And now that I'm even telling the story, it was that I'm even telling the story, it was that I'm even telling the story, it was really new because I was like, "Hey, you really new because I was like, "Hey, you really new because I was like, "Hey, you know what are these CGMs?" And in fact, know what are these CGMs?" And in fact, know what are these CGMs?" And in fact, full disclosure, I was like, full disclosure, I was like, full disclosure, I was like, >> metabolic dysfunction was not taught to >> metabolic dysfunction was not taught to >> metabolic dysfunction was not taught to me in medical school, that term. me in medical school, that term. me in medical school, that term. >> And I don't even know. I mean, I've been >> And I don't even know. I mean, I've been >> And I don't even know. I mean, I've been through a lot of stuff, even war, so I'm through a lot of stuff, even war, so I'm through a lot of stuff, even war, so I'm not sure if even someone even said it. not sure if even someone even said it. not sure if even someone even said it. >> But at the time that I was trying to get >> But at the time that I was trying to get >> But at the time that I was trying to get healthy, it had just started to become healthy, it had just started to become healthy, it had just started to become popular, at least in my world. And so I popular, at least in my world. And so I popular, at least in my world. And so I was like, "Okay, well, you know, what is was like, "Okay, well, you know, what is was like, "Okay, well, you know, what is this CGM? You know, what is this company this CGM? You know, what is this company this CGM? You know, what is this company Neutriense?" So I called the company. Neutriense?" So I called the company. Neutriense?" So I called the company. >> Oh, so you called them. >> Oh, so you called them. >> Oh, so you called them. >> I called them. Oh, wow. And that's how I >> I called them. Oh, wow. And that's how I >> I called them. Oh, wow. And that's how I did everything else. house. I mean, did everything else. house. I mean, did everything else. house. I mean, that's how I learned about peptides and that's how I learned about peptides and that's how I learned about peptides and that's how I learned about I would just that's how I learned about I would just that's how I learned about I would just find something and call the person. find something and call the person. find something and call the person. Okay? Okay? Okay? >> And at the time it was new. So, usually >> And at the time it was new. So, usually >> And at the time it was new. So, usually uh I would get the person on the phone. uh I would get the person on the phone. uh I would get the person on the phone. So, when I called Neutra Sense, I was So, when I called Neutra Sense, I was So, when I called Neutra Sense, I was like, "Hey, I'm interested. I'm a doctor like, "Hey, I'm interested. I'm a doctor like, "Hey, I'm interested. I'm a doctor and this guy Dan jumped on. He talks and this guy Dan jumped on. He talks and this guy Dan jumped on. He talks faster than I do." And so, he's like, faster than I do." And so, he's like, faster than I do." And so, he's like, "Yeah, I own the company." I was like, "Yeah, I own the company." I was like, "Yeah, I own the company." I was like, "Well, where where do I get more "Well, where where do I get more "Well, where where do I get more information?" He's like, "I own the information?" He's like, "I own the information?" He's like, "I own the company." company." company." me. me. me. >> He's like, >> He's like, >> He's like, >> "Did you not hear what I said?" >> "Did you not hear what I said?" >> "Did you not hear what I said?" >> So, anyways, that's how and again, >> So, anyways, that's how and again, >> So, anyways, that's how and again, that's how I learned. I would just find that's how I learned. I would just find that's how I learned. I would just find something that I was interested in, something that I was interested in, something that I was interested in, figure out if it was going to have an figure out if it was going to have an figure out if it was going to have an impact in health, and then just dove impact in health, and then just dove impact in health, and then just dove right in. right in. right in. >> Well, tell me more about that process >> Well, tell me more about that process >> Well, tell me more about that process with Dan and like asking him. So, you with Dan and like asking him. So, you with Dan and like asking him. So, you you get him, you start asking questions. you get him, you start asking questions. you get him, you start asking questions. Are you instantly like, "Oh, I believe Are you instantly like, "Oh, I believe Are you instantly like, "Oh, I believe in this or it's like what starts what in this or it's like what starts what in this or it's like what starts what piqus your interest in it? Do you order piqus your interest in it? Do you order piqus your interest in it? Do you order one and start testing it yourself?" like one and start testing it yourself?" like one and start testing it yourself?" like tell me about the evolution of that and tell me about the evolution of that and tell me about the evolution of that and how that unfolds for you. how that unfolds for you. how that unfolds for you. >> Yeah. Well, even that first conversation >> Yeah. Well, even that first conversation >> Yeah. Well, even that first conversation was like an hour conversation of us just was like an hour conversation of us just was like an hour conversation of us just talking about, you know, whatever talking about, you know, whatever talking about, you know, whatever business life and how the CGM impacts business life and how the CGM impacts business life and how the CGM impacts people's lives. And you know, I'm going people's lives. And you know, I'm going people's lives. And you know, I'm going to be honest, when it first came out, to be honest, when it first came out, to be honest, when it first came out, there was a lot of heat like, oh yeah, there was a lot of heat like, oh yeah, there was a lot of heat like, oh yeah, it's just a gimmick and blah blah blah. it's just a gimmick and blah blah blah. it's just a gimmick and blah blah blah. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And so, of course, I was also trying to >> And so, of course, I was also trying to >> And so, of course, I was also trying to start my clinic. And mind you, this was start my clinic. And mind you, this was start my clinic. And mind you, this was I don't know, it was it was late 2019 I don't know, it was it was late 2019 I don't know, it was it was late 2019 and like right before COVID hit, so and like right before COVID hit, so and like right before COVID hit, so there's a lot of other stuff going on. there's a lot of other stuff going on. there's a lot of other stuff going on. But I started uh I was like, "Okay, let But I started uh I was like, "Okay, let But I started uh I was like, "Okay, let me order a few of these." I had a few me order a few of these." I had a few me order a few of these." I had a few clients, right? And I was like, "Oh, clients, right? And I was like, "Oh, clients, right? And I was like, "Oh, this is it. I'm going to put everybody this is it. I'm going to put everybody this is it. I'm going to put everybody on this CGM. We're going to start on this CGM. We're going to start on this CGM. We're going to start learning about metabolic health." And by learning about metabolic health." And by learning about metabolic health." And by the way, I'm also going to learn about the way, I'm also going to learn about the way, I'm also going to learn about metabolic health, right? metabolic health, right? metabolic health, right? >> So I started trying it. Um and the app >> So I started trying it. Um and the app >> So I started trying it. Um and the app was new. But the biggest difference even was new. But the biggest difference even was new. But the biggest difference even for me and I'll I have no problem saying for me and I'll I have no problem saying for me and I'll I have no problem saying this as a doctor is as I was learning as this as a doctor is as I was learning as this as a doctor is as I was learning as I went but also talking with the I went but also talking with the I went but also talking with the dietitians, right? And so and at the dietitians, right? And so and at the dietitians, right? And so and at the time my wife was my wife's a dietitian. time my wife was my wife's a dietitian. time my wife was my wife's a dietitian. So she was in her residency finishing So she was in her residency finishing So she was in her residency finishing dietetics. dietetics. dietetics. So just even getting on the even getting So just even getting on the even getting So just even getting on the even getting on the a call or a zoom with these on the a call or a zoom with these on the a call or a zoom with these dietitians and I was I was special. I dietitians and I was I was special. I dietitians and I was I was special. I like hey I want to talk to your like hey I want to talk to your like hey I want to talk to your dietitians. I was constantly wanting to dietitians. I was constantly wanting to dietitians. I was constantly wanting to talk to these people like teach me teach talk to these people like teach me teach talk to these people like teach me teach me what do you do here? What do you do me what do you do here? What do you do me what do you do here? What do you do here? What do you do there? So for me it here? What do you do there? So for me it here? What do you do there? So for me it was an awesome period of discovery and I was an awesome period of discovery and I was an awesome period of discovery and I could tell that that this was a could tell that that this was a could tell that that this was a different tool because it was helping me different tool because it was helping me different tool because it was helping me understand how to change my behavior. understand how to change my behavior. understand how to change my behavior. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, I love like some there's been >> Right. So, I love like some there's been >> Right. So, I love like some there's been some cool CGM stories like or CG when some cool CGM stories like or CG when some cool CGM stories like or CG when you do you remember the first like aha you do you remember the first like aha you do you remember the first like aha or like well that's weird because I've or like well that's weird because I've or like well that's weird because I've seen times where you see somebody who seen times where you see somebody who seen times where you see somebody who one person eats a food and they react a one person eats a food and they react a one person eats a food and they react a certain way and then another person eats certain way and then another person eats certain way and then another person eats that food reacts completely different. that food reacts completely different. that food reacts completely different. Do you remember the first time you had Do you remember the first time you had Do you remember the first time you had kind of like that for yourself or for a kind of like that for yourself or for a kind of like that for yourself or for a client? client? client? >> Yeah, absolutely. And again, like I >> Yeah, absolutely. And again, like I >> Yeah, absolutely. And again, like I said, we're just going to get raw on said, we're just going to get raw on said, we're just going to get raw on this podcast. around the time it was this podcast. around the time it was this podcast. around the time it was carnivore was really really popular, carnivore was really really popular, carnivore was really really popular, right? So, of course, I'm trying to right? So, of course, I'm trying to right? So, of course, I'm trying to learn. I'm like, "Oh, learn. I'm like, "Oh, learn. I'm like, "Oh, >> carnivore, this has to be it." Like, >> carnivore, this has to be it." Like, >> carnivore, this has to be it." Like, let's let's let's >> let's try this. And it was the same time >> let's try this. And it was the same time >> let's try this. And it was the same time that I was doing the CGM. that I was doing the CGM. that I was doing the CGM. >> So, you're eating just me and you put on >> So, you're eating just me and you put on >> So, you're eating just me and you put on a glucose monitor. a glucose monitor. a glucose monitor. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're expecting zero spike. >> And you're expecting zero spike. >> And you're expecting zero spike. >> Yeah. But I I mean, even me, like it's >> Yeah. But I I mean, even me, like it's >> Yeah. But I I mean, even me, like it's you know, my wife knows how extreme I you know, my wife knows how extreme I you know, my wife knows how extreme I am. I'm like, I'm going to be flat, am. I'm like, I'm going to be flat, am. I'm like, I'm going to be flat, dude. I'm just trying. We We want no dude. I'm just trying. We We want no dude. I'm just trying. We We want no glucose spikes, right? Let's be as flat glucose spikes, right? Let's be as flat glucose spikes, right? Let's be as flat as possible. as possible. as possible. >> Can we pause for a second? Your wife's >> Can we pause for a second? Your wife's >> Can we pause for a second? Your wife's in in residency as a dietitian and she in in residency as a dietitian and she in in residency as a dietitian and she knows you're just going to eat meat. knows you're just going to eat meat. knows you're just going to eat meat. They're like They're like They're like about carnivore diet. about carnivore diet. about carnivore diet. >> What was that? What was that like at >> What was that? What was that like at >> What was that? What was that like at home? home? home? >> I am dying cuz when she hears this, >> I am dying cuz when she hears this, >> I am dying cuz when she hears this, she's going to be like he he knows. He she's going to be like he he knows. He she's going to be like he he knows. He knows cuz I would be like, "No, no, knows cuz I would be like, "No, no, knows cuz I would be like, "No, no, nope. That's it." I would hear something nope. That's it." I would hear something nope. That's it." I would hear something be like that's it. Plants are going to be like that's it. Plants are going to be like that's it. Plants are going to kill you. She's like you're dumb. kill you. She's like you're dumb. kill you. She's like you're dumb. I'm not doing any plants. She's like I'm not doing any plants. She's like I'm not doing any plants. She's like dumb. And of course, it's fine for me dumb. And of course, it's fine for me dumb. And of course, it's fine for me telling that because you have to you telling that because you have to you telling that because you have to you have to do this stuff have to do this stuff have to do this stuff >> to figure it out, right? >> to figure it out, right? >> to figure it out, right? >> So, yes, I went through a carnivore >> So, yes, I went through a carnivore >> So, yes, I went through a carnivore phase and I was like, "Yeah, that was phase and I was like, "Yeah, that was phase and I was like, "Yeah, that was dumb." dumb." dumb." >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> but no, yeah, she I mean, >> but no, yeah, she I mean, >> but no, yeah, she I mean, >> but the expectation is I I I'm eating no >> but the expectation is I I I'm eating no >> but the expectation is I I I'm eating no gluc. I'm having no carbs, no sugars. gluc. I'm having no carbs, no sugars. gluc. I'm having no carbs, no sugars. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> No fiber, >> No fiber, >> No fiber, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And so, I should have flat >> And so, I should have flat >> And so, I should have flat >> Yeah. What you actually see though? >> Yeah. What you actually see though? >> Yeah. What you actually see though? >> Yeah. What you see is and the and the >> Yeah. What you see is and the and the >> Yeah. What you see is and the and the longer again, you know, I don't longer again, you know, I don't longer again, you know, I don't recommend carnivore. The longer you take recommend carnivore. The longer you take recommend carnivore. The longer you take it out, the more variability potentially it out, the more variability potentially it out, the more variability potentially you have. you have. you have. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> So, even eating protein, you're going to >> So, even eating protein, you're going to >> So, even eating protein, you're going to have an insulin response. have an insulin response. have an insulin response. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And so, of course, think about me. >> And so, of course, think about me. >> And so, of course, think about me. >> You know, I'm trying to teach people and >> You know, I'm trying to teach people and >> You know, I'm trying to teach people and learn and I'm like, "Okay, this is not learn and I'm like, "Okay, this is not learn and I'm like, "Okay, this is not making sense. making sense. making sense. >> Maybe I should eat some plants." And >> Maybe I should eat some plants." And >> Maybe I should eat some plants." And she's like, "Yeah, you're dumb." she's like, "Yeah, you're dumb." she's like, "Yeah, you're dumb." >> Yeah. So explain uh some because my >> Yeah. So explain uh some because my >> Yeah. So explain uh some because my favorite aspect of the of CGMs and now favorite aspect of the of CGMs and now favorite aspect of the of CGMs and now that they're more popular is just that they're more popular is just that they're more popular is just something that we noticed as trainers. something that we noticed as trainers. something that we noticed as trainers. Now we couldn't I couldn't put um I Now we couldn't I couldn't put um I Now we couldn't I couldn't put um I couldn't give you couldn't give you couldn't give you um you know a a blood marker or um you know a a blood marker or um you know a a blood marker or measurement, but I just trained enough measurement, but I just trained enough measurement, but I just trained enough people to know like everybody responds people to know like everybody responds people to know like everybody responds different. It's really weird. different. It's really weird. different. It's really weird. >> She could eat this for in the morning >> She could eat this for in the morning >> She could eat this for in the morning and then this guy eats the same thing and then this guy eats the same thing and then this guy eats the same thing >> and it's appropriate calories. macros >> and it's appropriate calories. macros >> and it's appropriate calories. macros are, you know, appropriate, but he just are, you know, appropriate, but he just are, you know, appropriate, but he just feels like crap when he eats the same feels like crap when he eats the same feels like crap when he eats the same thing that she does. And you just see thing that she does. And you just see thing that she does. And you just see this enough times as a trainer to go, this enough times as a trainer to go, this enough times as a trainer to go, there's a big individual variance. I there's a big individual variance. I there's a big individual variance. I can't explain it. can't explain it. can't explain it. >> I didn't even I didn't even know how to >> I didn't even I didn't even know how to >> I didn't even I didn't even know how to explain it uh back then, but then you explain it uh back then, but then you explain it uh back then, but then you get CGMs that confirm, oh yeah, like get CGMs that confirm, oh yeah, like get CGMs that confirm, oh yeah, like this guy eats a potato, she eats a this guy eats a potato, she eats a this guy eats a potato, she eats a potato, he has a crazy response, she potato, he has a crazy response, she potato, he has a crazy response, she seems to be okay. Explain why do we seems to be okay. Explain why do we seems to be okay. Explain why do we think that happens? Like what's going on think that happens? Like what's going on think that happens? Like what's going on there? there? there? >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean when you look at >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean when you look at >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean when you look at variability and you know when I'm variability and you know when I'm variability and you know when I'm working with clients the number one working with clients the number one working with clients the number one thing people do is they say okay well I thing people do is they say okay well I thing people do is they say okay well I had a potato and then I have this had a potato and then I have this had a potato and then I have this response or let's say they have a response or let's say they have a response or let's say they have a response like oh yeah it was definitely response like oh yeah it was definitely response like oh yeah it was definitely the potato and I was like well let's the potato and I was like well let's the potato and I was like well let's think about it let's look at all these think about it let's look at all these think about it let's look at all these data points because you're a human you data points because you're a human you data points because you're a human you have a you know complex uh complex have a you know complex uh complex have a you know complex uh complex question complex answer right so instead question complex answer right so instead question complex answer right so instead of just saying like hey you had the of just saying like hey you had the of just saying like hey you had the potato let's look at what happened the potato let's look at what happened the potato let's look at what happened the last five days last five days last five days >> was your sleep >> was your sleep >> was your sleep Did you get in a couple of arguments Did you get in a couple of arguments Did you get in a couple of arguments with your significant other? How was with your significant other? How was with your significant other? How was your hydration? your hydration? your hydration? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Did you work out that day? Right? So, >> Did you work out that day? Right? So, >> Did you work out that day? Right? So, even looking at lifestyle and also even looking at lifestyle and also even looking at lifestyle and also looking at the physiology of the human, looking at the physiology of the human, looking at the physiology of the human, right? How much fat are you carrying? right? How much fat are you carrying? right? How much fat are you carrying? Right? Um what what else are you eating Right? Um what what else are you eating Right? Um what what else are you eating with the potato around the time of the with the potato around the time of the with the potato around the time of the potato? potato? potato? >> So, it it it helps us kind of decipher >> So, it it it helps us kind of decipher >> So, it it it helps us kind of decipher what what else we're what what else we're what what else we're >> as individualized as it can get. And >> as individualized as it can get. And >> as individualized as it can get. And even more importantly, and I think the even more importantly, and I think the even more importantly, and I think the bigger conversation here is and that I bigger conversation here is and that I bigger conversation here is and that I remember unlocking this with clients was remember unlocking this with clients was remember unlocking this with clients was like cuz one might say, well, who cares? like cuz one might say, well, who cares? like cuz one might say, well, who cares? Who cares if it's got this risk? Who Who cares if it's got this risk? Who Who cares if it's got this risk? Who cares? cares? cares? >> It gets a little bit if it's the same >> It gets a little bit if it's the same >> It gets a little bit if it's the same amount of calories and I stay within my amount of calories and I stay within my amount of calories and I stay within my calories. calories. calories. >> But what I started to connect the dots >> But what I started to connect the dots >> But what I started to connect the dots to is when you see that how difficult it to is when you see that how difficult it to is when you see that how difficult it is for the client to fight off cravings is for the client to fight off cravings is for the client to fight off cravings and other things when when you see these and other things when when you see these and other things when when you see these huge swings. And that to me is the huge swings. And that to me is the huge swings. And that to me is the important conversation is that you know important conversation is that you know important conversation is that you know because that's where someone well if I because that's where someone well if I because that's where someone well if I just follow the calories who cares if just follow the calories who cares if just follow the calories who cares if these foods make me go up or down but these foods make me go up or down but these foods make me go up or down but when you talk about behavior when you talk about behavior when you talk about behavior modification and how important that is modification and how important that is modification and how important that is in this whole process if you didn't in this whole process if you didn't in this whole process if you didn't realize it that you have this reaction realize it that you have this reaction realize it that you have this reaction to a certain food it makes it that much to a certain food it makes it that much to a certain food it makes it that much more difficult for you to stay on track. more difficult for you to stay on track. more difficult for you to stay on track. So talk a little bit about that because So talk a little bit about that because So talk a little bit about that because I think that's the bigger conversation I think that's the bigger conversation I think that's the bigger conversation more so than the variability of a client more so than the variability of a client more so than the variability of a client spiking or not spiking. spiking or not spiking. spiking or not spiking. >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I I think >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I I think >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I I think honestly that that's the take-home honestly that that's the take-home honestly that that's the take-home message is when you are a good message is when you are a good message is when you are a good practitioner or trainer or doctor or practitioner or trainer or doctor or practitioner or trainer or doctor or whatever, if you want to make an impact whatever, if you want to make an impact whatever, if you want to make an impact in someone's life, it's going to be in someone's life, it's going to be in someone's life, it's going to be behavioral modification. And there's behavioral modification. And there's behavioral modification. And there's randomized control trials that show randomized control trials that show randomized control trials that show that, right? So, it's easy for me. This that, right? So, it's easy for me. This that, right? So, it's easy for me. This is an amazing tool because when someone is an amazing tool because when someone is an amazing tool because when someone looks at a glucose spike and they say, looks at a glucose spike and they say, looks at a glucose spike and they say, "Who cares?" For me, I can put it in "Who cares?" For me, I can put it in "Who cares?" For me, I can put it in context. I could say, okay, well, you context. I could say, okay, well, you context. I could say, okay, well, you know, you're a busy executive and we know, you're a busy executive and we know, you're a busy executive and we know that glucose variability is going know that glucose variability is going know that glucose variability is going to have an impact on uh cognitive to have an impact on uh cognitive to have an impact on uh cognitive function or executive function, right? function or executive function, right? function or executive function, right? When someone when a client comes to me When someone when a client comes to me When someone when a client comes to me and they're like, "Hey, uh when I say, and they're like, "Hey, uh when I say, and they're like, "Hey, uh when I say, "Okay, what are your goals?" They go, "I "Okay, what are your goals?" They go, "I "Okay, what are your goals?" They go, "I want to feel better." And I'm like, want to feel better." And I'm like, want to feel better." And I'm like, "Okay, well, when you unpack that, yeah, "Okay, well, when you unpack that, yeah, "Okay, well, when you unpack that, yeah, it's it's mental resiliency." So, cool. it's it's mental resiliency." So, cool. it's it's mental resiliency." So, cool. Like, you want to feel better in your Like, you want to feel better in your Like, you want to feel better in your body or no, you want to be James Bond, body or no, you want to be James Bond, body or no, you want to be James Bond, right? I want to I want to make a right? I want to I want to make a right? I want to I want to make a decision and then have a plan to kill decision and then have a plan to kill decision and then have a plan to kill everybody in the room. Right? everybody in the room. Right? everybody in the room. Right? >> So So that's executive function. If I >> So So that's executive function. If I >> So So that's executive function. If I said, "Hey, who cares?" But also when said, "Hey, who cares?" But also when said, "Hey, who cares?" But also when when you're having all these spikes all when you're having all these spikes all when you're having all these spikes all day, it's going to lower it's going to day, it's going to lower it's going to day, it's going to lower it's going to lower your executive function, your lower your executive function, your lower your executive function, your ability to make decisions, right? The ability to make decisions, right? The ability to make decisions, right? The highest form of thinking is thinking highest form of thinking is thinking highest form of thinking is thinking about what you're thinking. about what you're thinking. about what you're thinking. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cognition. >> Cognition. >> Cognition. >> Yeah. So it puts it in a different >> Yeah. So it puts it in a different >> Yeah. So it puts it in a different context for that client. And hopefully context for that client. And hopefully context for that client. And hopefully and again, you have to work on that over and again, you have to work on that over and again, you have to work on that over time. So, not just like having one time. So, not just like having one time. So, not just like having one instance with the client, let's work it instance with the client, let's work it instance with the client, let's work it work on it over 300 days or 600 days, work on it over 300 days or 600 days, work on it over 300 days or 600 days, right? right? right? >> How hard or easy was this transition for >> How hard or easy was this transition for >> How hard or easy was this transition for you? Because um coming from someone you? Because um coming from someone you? Because um coming from someone who's um a doctor, so you you you you're who's um a doctor, so you you you you're who's um a doctor, so you you you you're one of the you're probably the kind of one of the you're probably the kind of one of the you're probably the kind of guy that's like, I'm going to make a guy that's like, I'm going to make a guy that's like, I'm going to make a change. I'm just going to do it. I'm change. I'm just going to do it. I'm change. I'm just going to do it. I'm just going to decide. I'm just going to just going to decide. I'm just going to just going to decide. I'm just going to do it. do it. do it. >> Then you also work in the medical >> Then you also work in the medical >> Then you also work in the medical system, which is like uh you know, you system, which is like uh you know, you system, which is like uh you know, you show up, someone has something wrong, do show up, someone has something wrong, do show up, someone has something wrong, do this, do that, and you're gone. Now this, do that, and you're gone. Now this, do that, and you're gone. Now you're working with people on behavior you're working with people on behavior you're working with people on behavior change. Uh do you ever get frustrated change. Uh do you ever get frustrated change. Uh do you ever get frustrated because it's really hard to change because it's really hard to change because it's really hard to change behaviors? behaviors? behaviors? >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean what I would say is >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean what I would say is >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean what I would say is it wasn't as hard for me because that's it wasn't as hard for me because that's it wasn't as hard for me because that's what I like to do, right? That I mean I what I like to do, right? That I mean I what I like to do, right? That I mean I was in the military so if you tell me was in the military so if you tell me was in the military so if you tell me like hey you suck do more. I'm like okay like hey you suck do more. I'm like okay like hey you suck do more. I'm like okay sir yes sir. Like cool. sir yes sir. Like cool. sir yes sir. Like cool. >> That's how I respond right? I want >> That's how I respond right? I want >> That's how I respond right? I want someone to tell me and and again you someone to tell me and and again you someone to tell me and and again you know your circle is the collection of know your circle is the collection of know your circle is the collection of you are the collection of the five you are the collection of the five you are the collection of the five people you hang out with right so in in people you hang out with right so in in people you hang out with right so in in fact that's where I shine and and fact that's where I shine and and fact that's where I shine and and everybody at the end of the end of the everybody at the end of the end of the everybody at the end of the end of the day the best doctors they become a coach day the best doctors they become a coach day the best doctors they become a coach the good ones become a life coach the good ones become a life coach the good ones become a life coach >> on top of taking the data on top of >> on top of taking the data on top of >> on top of taking the data on top of prescribing the medicine right you sit prescribing the medicine right you sit prescribing the medicine right you sit down with the patient and you over and down with the patient and you over and down with the patient and you over and over again but it was awesome over again but it was awesome over again but it was awesome perspective cuz I would go over here and perspective cuz I would go over here and perspective cuz I would go over here and try to make someone well right and train try to make someone well right and train try to make someone well right and train them on doing XY XYZ and then go over them on doing XY XYZ and then go over them on doing XY XYZ and then go over here to conventional medicine where here to conventional medicine where here to conventional medicine where people are dying and yes save some people are dying and yes save some people are dying and yes save some lives. But having that dichotomy helped lives. But having that dichotomy helped lives. But having that dichotomy helped me understand like hey if you don't me understand like hey if you don't me understand like hey if you don't change you're going to get to this side change you're going to get to this side change you're going to get to this side of the of the of the >> I had uh I had some really interesting >> I had uh I had some really interesting >> I had uh I had some really interesting experiences early on as a trainer. uh experiences early on as a trainer. uh experiences early on as a trainer. uh that really just uh just defied my my that really just uh just defied my my that really just uh just defied my my knowledge of blood sugar and all that knowledge of blood sugar and all that knowledge of blood sugar and all that stuff just cuz you know I knew I had I stuff just cuz you know I knew I had I stuff just cuz you know I knew I had I understood very basic things but I understood very basic things but I understood very basic things but I remember once I had a client was remember once I had a client was remember once I had a client was pre-diabetic so we had to test his his pre-diabetic so we had to test his his pre-diabetic so we had to test his his blood sugar often and I'll never forget blood sugar often and I'll never forget blood sugar often and I'll never forget we had a really hard leg workout and his we had a really hard leg workout and his we had a really hard leg workout and his diet at this point was good because he diet at this point was good because he diet at this point was good because he was trying to get out of pre-diabetic was trying to get out of pre-diabetic was trying to get out of pre-diabetic diabetic stage and he went home and he diabetic stage and he went home and he diabetic stage and he went home and he calls me up like dude my blood sugar's calls me up like dude my blood sugar's calls me up like dude my blood sugar's through the roof I'm like we just worked through the roof I'm like we just worked through the roof I'm like we just worked out that doesn't make any sense it was out that doesn't make any sense it was out that doesn't make any sense it was the first time I understood how stress the first time I understood how stress the first time I understood how stress could cause a dramatic rise, just cause could cause a dramatic rise, just cause could cause a dramatic rise, just cause your liver to dump a bunch of, your liver to dump a bunch of, your liver to dump a bunch of, >> you know, glucose into your system. I >> you know, glucose into your system. I >> you know, glucose into your system. I remember when I first got that call, I remember when I first got that call, I remember when I first got that call, I can't be right. Test yourself again. can't be right. Test yourself again. can't be right. Test yourself again. He's like, "No, dude. It's real high." He's like, "No, dude. It's real high." He's like, "No, dude. It's real high." And I'm like, "Uhoh." Like, "What do we And I'm like, "Uhoh." Like, "What do we And I'm like, "Uhoh." Like, "What do we do wrong?" And I just had no idea that do wrong?" And I just had no idea that do wrong?" And I just had no idea that stress could cause that. stress could cause that. stress could cause that. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's um that's actually >> Yeah. Yeah. That's um that's actually >> Yeah. Yeah. That's um that's actually one of my platforms, you know? It's like one of my platforms, you know? It's like one of my platforms, you know? It's like 2026, right? You can't just be a 2026, right? You can't just be a 2026, right? You can't just be a husband, you can't be a father and have husband, you can't be a father and have husband, you can't be a father and have a 9 to5. You got to now have a 5 to9 a 9 to5. You got to now have a 5 to9 a 9 to5. You got to now have a 5 to9 like a 10 to two. You got to know how to like a 10 to two. You got to know how to like a 10 to two. You got to know how to day trade crypto. So like all day we are day trade crypto. So like all day we are day trade crypto. So like all day we are literally in fight or flight. Okay. So literally in fight or flight. Okay. So literally in fight or flight. Okay. So and everyone understands like that and everyone understands like that and everyone understands like that there's a reason there is a reason there's a reason there is a reason there's a reason there is a reason physiological reason for that. Right? physiological reason for that. Right? physiological reason for that. Right? Blue light hits your eyes, Blue light hits your eyes, Blue light hits your eyes, >> cortisol rises, you wake up and you hunt >> cortisol rises, you wake up and you hunt >> cortisol rises, you wake up and you hunt or gather, right? Again, that's a or gather, right? Again, that's a or gather, right? Again, that's a simplistic term. simplistic term. simplistic term. >> We it gets towards the night, lowers, >> We it gets towards the night, lowers, >> We it gets towards the night, lowers, you go to bed. Staying in that all day you go to bed. Staying in that all day you go to bed. Staying in that all day is a problem. and and teaching clients is a problem. and and teaching clients is a problem. and and teaching clients that like, hey, I can make your labs that like, hey, I can make your labs that like, hey, I can make your labs look beautiful. We can make your body look beautiful. We can make your body look beautiful. We can make your body composition look beautiful. And also, I composition look beautiful. And also, I composition look beautiful. And also, I would argue that that's going to help would argue that that's going to help would argue that that's going to help you be more resilient. But if you if you you be more resilient. But if you if you you be more resilient. But if you if you stay in this uh high nervous system stay in this uh high nervous system stay in this uh high nervous system activity state, it is going to kill you. activity state, it is going to kill you. activity state, it is going to kill you. Um, and we even see that in in glucose, Um, and we even see that in in glucose, Um, and we even see that in in glucose, right? One of the interesting studies right? One of the interesting studies right? One of the interesting studies that I like to talk about with the that I like to talk about with the that I like to talk about with the clients is like you might not see even clients is like you might not see even clients is like you might not see even with stress, you might not see that with stress, you might not see that with stress, you might not see that cortisol effect with fasting glucose. cortisol effect with fasting glucose. cortisol effect with fasting glucose. And when you go to a conventional And when you go to a conventional And when you go to a conventional doctor's office, they're going to check doctor's office, they're going to check doctor's office, they're going to check a fasting glucose, right? But we do see a fasting glucose, right? But we do see a fasting glucose, right? But we do see it in postprandial. So we see it after it in postprandial. So we see it after it in postprandial. So we see it after you eat. And I always reference this one you eat. And I always reference this one you eat. And I always reference this one study where they they artificially study where they they artificially study where they they artificially created like a stress test. It was like created like a stress test. It was like created like a stress test. It was like a social stress test cuz this is a social stress test cuz this is a social stress test cuz this is straight nightmare fuel and I'm saying straight nightmare fuel and I'm saying straight nightmare fuel and I'm saying this as I'm sitting in front of three this as I'm sitting in front of three this as I'm sitting in front of three people, but they would have you eat. So people, but they would have you eat. So people, but they would have you eat. So you eat your oatmeal and then within the you eat your oatmeal and then within the you eat your oatmeal and then within the hour you immediately go to another room hour you immediately go to another room hour you immediately go to another room and you have a mock panel job interview and you have a mock panel job interview and you have a mock panel job interview and so then they would measure like the and so then they would measure like the and so then they would measure like the glucose, right? Or the other option is glucose, right? Or the other option is glucose, right? Or the other option is you would eat and then you would go into you would eat and then you would go into you would eat and then you would go into a live audience and do math equations, a live audience and do math equations, a live audience and do math equations, right? If you messed up, you had to right? If you messed up, you had to right? If you messed up, you had to start over, start over, start over, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> So I mean and think about that, right? >> So I mean and think about that, right? >> So I mean and think about that, right? You might have, again, you got to close You might have, again, you got to close You might have, again, you got to close deals, right? It's business, but you're deals, right? It's business, but you're deals, right? It's business, but you're having your meal in a high stress having your meal in a high stress having your meal in a high stress situation. Not to mention all the other situation. Not to mention all the other situation. Not to mention all the other other stuff that we have to deal with in other stuff that we have to deal with in other stuff that we have to deal with in today's world. today's world. today's world. >> And I always tell her clients, I'm like, >> And I always tell her clients, I'm like, >> And I always tell her clients, I'm like, you get what you practice. And I'm not you get what you practice. And I'm not you get what you practice. And I'm not immune to this stuff, right? My my wife, immune to this stuff, right? My my wife, immune to this stuff, right? My my wife, the best thing she ever said to me was, the best thing she ever said to me was, the best thing she ever said to me was, uh, you love putting yourself in a uh, you love putting yourself in a uh, you love putting yourself in a constant state of [ __ ] your pants. constant state of [ __ ] your pants. constant state of [ __ ] your pants. And I was like, thank you. It's like And I was like, thank you. It's like And I was like, thank you. It's like despite your best efforts, that's despite your best efforts, that's despite your best efforts, that's something really cool. something really cool. something really cool. >> You know, I'm not immune to this stuff, >> You know, I'm not immune to this stuff, >> You know, I'm not immune to this stuff, like we I deal with stress all the time. like we I deal with stress all the time. like we I deal with stress all the time. I'm a business owner. It is like this I'm a business owner. It is like this I'm a business owner. It is like this all day. And then we're expected to come all day. And then we're expected to come all day. And then we're expected to come home and lower our nervous system. But home and lower our nervous system. But home and lower our nervous system. But that's slowly killing you, right? And so that's slowly killing you, right? And so that's slowly killing you, right? And so the CGM is a good way to show people the CGM is a good way to show people the CGM is a good way to show people like, hey, if you do this, this is not like, hey, if you do this, this is not like, hey, if you do this, this is not good. So, we need to do something to good. So, we need to do something to good. So, we need to do something to help. help. help. >> Along those lines, what are some of the >> Along those lines, what are some of the >> Along those lines, what are some of the practices you've you've applied with practices you've you've applied with practices you've you've applied with with clients to help them uh with that with clients to help them uh with that with clients to help them uh with that part of it? Yeah. part of it? Yeah. part of it? Yeah. >> By the way, this episode is brought to >> By the way, this episode is brought to >> By the way, this episode is brought to you by Neutra. So, they have continual you by Neutra. So, they have continual you by Neutra. 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I'm like, "No, no, no." which it's fine if music helps you, but which it's fine if music helps you, but which it's fine if music helps you, but what do you do to lower your nervous what do you do to lower your nervous what do you do to lower your nervous system activity? Lower your heart rate, system activity? Lower your heart rate, system activity? Lower your heart rate, lower the sympathetic activity, you lower the sympathetic activity, you lower the sympathetic activity, you know, uh, and know, uh, and know, uh, and one of the biggest takes takeaways I one of the biggest takes takeaways I one of the biggest takes takeaways I have for stress I learned while I was in have for stress I learned while I was in have for stress I learned while I was in the military, you know, I was deployed the military, you know, I was deployed the military, you know, I was deployed for a year in Afghanistan with special for a year in Afghanistan with special for a year in Afghanistan with special forces and you have that constant high forces and you have that constant high forces and you have that constant high level of stress of I don't know, level of stress of I don't know, level of stress of I don't know, whatever getting blown up and I learned whatever getting blown up and I learned whatever getting blown up and I learned it from special forces. So, you know, it from special forces. So, you know, it from special forces. So, you know, where's this coming from? Our lyic where's this coming from? Our lyic where's this coming from? Our lyic system, right? Lyic system wants us to system, right? Lyic system wants us to system, right? Lyic system wants us to be safe. Routine. A routine. Your brain be safe. Routine. A routine. Your brain be safe. Routine. A routine. Your brain notices routine as safe. notices routine as safe. notices routine as safe. >> Yeah. So, even in even in war, what do >> Yeah. So, even in even in war, what do >> Yeah. So, even in even in war, what do we do? We clean our weapon. We go get a we do? We clean our weapon. We go get a we do? We clean our weapon. We go get a haircut. We make our beds, right? We haircut. We make our beds, right? We haircut. We make our beds, right? We prepare whatever your the bullets, prepare whatever your the bullets, prepare whatever your the bullets, right? So, sticking to a routine will right? So, sticking to a routine will right? So, sticking to a routine will make your brain feel safe. And that's make your brain feel safe. And that's make your brain feel safe. And that's why some people think like, oh well why some people think like, oh well why some people think like, oh well that's a very boring lifestyle. But that's a very boring lifestyle. But that's a very boring lifestyle. But actually the brain does like routine. actually the brain does like routine. actually the brain does like routine. >> Was that strategically put in by the >> Was that strategically put in by the >> Was that strategically put in by the military military military >> for that reason? Absolutely. >> for that reason? Absolutely. >> for that reason? Absolutely. >> Did you know that while you were going >> Did you know that while you were going >> Did you know that while you were going through it? Like were you aware of that through it? Like were you aware of that through it? Like were you aware of that or is this you reflecting and knowing? or is this you reflecting and knowing? or is this you reflecting and knowing? >> No. No. I was like I told you I was just >> No. No. I was like I told you I was just >> No. No. I was like I told you I was just a fitness bro like okay cool. This is a fitness bro like okay cool. This is a fitness bro like okay cool. This is what we do you know. what we do you know. what we do you know. >> But also and I don't mean this to sound >> But also and I don't mean this to sound >> But also and I don't mean this to sound arrogant. I didn't my mind was not arrogant. I didn't my mind was not arrogant. I didn't my mind was not constantly on you know whether a rocket constantly on you know whether a rocket constantly on you know whether a rocket was going to come over and hit us was going to come over and hit us was going to come over and hit us especially when one of them hit your especially when one of them hit your especially when one of them hit your friend you know. Um, I was just, it was friend you know. Um, I was just, it was friend you know. Um, I was just, it was a very peaceful time surprisingly cuz we a very peaceful time surprisingly cuz we a very peaceful time surprisingly cuz we had one place to eat, one place to get a had one place to eat, one place to get a had one place to eat, one place to get a haircut. There was also just one haircut. There was also just one haircut. There was also just one haircut. You didn't have to tell them haircut. You didn't have to tell them haircut. You didn't have to tell them what haircut you're going to get. what haircut you're going to get. what haircut you're going to get. >> One place to work out, uh, you know, and >> One place to work out, uh, you know, and >> One place to work out, uh, you know, and one job to do. one job to do. one job to do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that routine, you know, I I would go >> So, that routine, you know, I I would go >> So, that routine, you know, I I would go as far as to say there's times where I'm as far as to say there's times where I'm as far as to say there's times where I'm experiencing more stress in this chaotic experiencing more stress in this chaotic experiencing more stress in this chaotic environment than I did on deployment. environment than I did on deployment. environment than I did on deployment. >> Interesting. What are some of the um the >> Interesting. What are some of the um the >> Interesting. What are some of the um the the practices that you've noticed that the practices that you've noticed that the practices that you've noticed that have the biggest impact on somebody's have the biggest impact on somebody's have the biggest impact on somebody's uh measurements variability? Yeah. Is it uh measurements variability? Yeah. Is it uh measurements variability? Yeah. Is it is it exercise? If so, what type of is it exercise? If so, what type of is it exercise? If so, what type of exercise? Is it the diet? exercise? Is it the diet? exercise? Is it the diet? >> Probably sleep routine, >> Probably sleep routine, >> Probably sleep routine, >> sleep, like what are the ones that you >> sleep, like what are the ones that you >> sleep, like what are the ones that you notice most? notice most? notice most? >> Yeah. I mean, the obvious ones uh are >> Yeah. I mean, the obvious ones uh are >> Yeah. I mean, the obvious ones uh are sleep, you know, sleep is a super sleep, you know, sleep is a super sleep, you know, sleep is a super superpower. We've I think you guys have superpower. We've I think you guys have superpower. We've I think you guys have talked about the studies on those, but talked about the studies on those, but talked about the studies on those, but even if you look at studies on sleep even if you look at studies on sleep even if you look at studies on sleep independent of obesity, independent of obesity, independent of obesity, >> having a regular sleep schedule is going >> having a regular sleep schedule is going >> having a regular sleep schedule is going to make your your glucose more stable, to make your your glucose more stable, to make your your glucose more stable, right? right? right? >> Going to bed at the same time, that's >> Going to bed at the same time, that's >> Going to bed at the same time, that's another one I had to learn, right? another one I had to learn, right? another one I had to learn, right? Because I don't know you guys, and my Because I don't know you guys, and my Because I don't know you guys, and my wife's probably going to kill me, but wife's probably going to kill me, but wife's probably going to kill me, but she goes to bed late. she goes to bed late. she goes to bed late. >> I go to bed. I'm Grandpa Langley, right? >> I go to bed. I'm Grandpa Langley, right? >> I go to bed. I'm Grandpa Langley, right? I go to I try to go to bed between 9 and I go to I try to go to bed between 9 and I go to I try to go to bed between 9 and 10. 10. 10. >> She's more after midnight. And so, of >> She's more after midnight. And so, of >> She's more after midnight. And so, of course, I want to spend time with her course, I want to spend time with her course, I want to spend time with her when I when that even if I get an 8 hour when I when that even if I get an 8 hour when I when that even if I get an 8 hour window and I try to go to bed at window and I try to go to bed at window and I try to go to bed at midnight or 1, I feel like [ __ ] the next midnight or 1, I feel like [ __ ] the next midnight or 1, I feel like [ __ ] the next day. day. day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> You jet lag yourself. >> You jet lag yourself. >> You jet lag yourself. >> Yeah. Um I mean obviously body >> Yeah. Um I mean obviously body >> Yeah. Um I mean obviously body composition. So what I what I tell my composition. So what I what I tell my composition. So what I what I tell my clients, clients, clients, I understand when they leave the clinic, I understand when they leave the clinic, I understand when they leave the clinic, you know, our our overlords have set up you know, our our overlords have set up you know, our our overlords have set up the a system that's going to attack you, the a system that's going to attack you, the a system that's going to attack you, right? Toxic people, toxic water, toxic right? Toxic people, toxic water, toxic right? Toxic people, toxic water, toxic air, toxic foods, etc. So we work on air, toxic foods, etc. So we work on air, toxic foods, etc. So we work on making the body more resilient and making the body more resilient and making the body more resilient and that's lean mass to fat mass. So that's lean mass to fat mass. So that's lean mass to fat mass. So obviously the lever there is resistance obviously the lever there is resistance obviously the lever there is resistance training. Yes, you should do some cardio training. Yes, you should do some cardio training. Yes, you should do some cardio but trying to get that fat level down, but trying to get that fat level down, but trying to get that fat level down, right? Change your body composition. right? Change your body composition. right? Change your body composition. >> I I love uh you know years ago I did >> I I love uh you know years ago I did >> I I love uh you know years ago I did research on um uh insulin sensitivity research on um uh insulin sensitivity research on um uh insulin sensitivity and and how exercise different modes of and and how exercise different modes of and and how exercise different modes of exercise affect insulin sensitivity. And exercise affect insulin sensitivity. And exercise affect insulin sensitivity. And um now this is what I thought I would um now this is what I thought I would um now this is what I thought I would see, but to see the studies back it up see, but to see the studies back it up see, but to see the studies back it up and and just how much it was pretty cool and and just how much it was pretty cool and and just how much it was pretty cool to see that uh strength training of all to see that uh strength training of all to see that uh strength training of all the forms of extra, you know, it's the forms of extra, you know, it's the forms of extra, you know, it's doesn't burn a ton of traditional doesn't burn a ton of traditional doesn't burn a ton of traditional strength training doesn't burn a ton of strength training doesn't burn a ton of strength training doesn't burn a ton of calories. You'll burn way more calories calories. You'll burn way more calories calories. You'll burn way more calories doing Zumba or running than you will doing Zumba or running than you will doing Zumba or running than you will lifting weights for the same time. But lifting weights for the same time. But lifting weights for the same time. But the the insulin sensitivity was like in the the insulin sensitivity was like in the the insulin sensitivity was like in gaining lean body mass was huge. I gaining lean body mass was huge. I gaining lean body mass was huge. I remember reading one study with obese remember reading one study with obese remember reading one study with obese individuals who lost no weight. They individuals who lost no weight. They individuals who lost no weight. They just gained a little bit of muscle. just gained a little bit of muscle. just gained a little bit of muscle. >> Yep. and they saw these huge >> Yep. and they saw these huge >> Yep. and they saw these huge improvements in insulin sensitivity. improvements in insulin sensitivity. improvements in insulin sensitivity. What's happening there? Why is it such a What's happening there? Why is it such a What's happening there? Why is it such a big uh gamecher? Why is it not just burn big uh gamecher? Why is it not just burn big uh gamecher? Why is it not just burn calories? What is it about building calories? What is it about building calories? What is it about building muscle that does this? muscle that does this? muscle that does this? >> Yeah. So, if you look at those studies, >> Yeah. So, if you look at those studies, >> Yeah. So, if you look at those studies, for every I think it was for every 4% in for every I think it was for every 4% in for every I think it was for every 4% in lean mass, it was a 4% decrease in lean mass, it was a 4% decrease in lean mass, it was a 4% decrease in hemoglobin A1C, which is obviously a hemoglobin A1C, which is obviously a hemoglobin A1C, which is obviously a conventional test they use to check conventional test they use to check conventional test they use to check blood sugar, then blood sugar, then blood sugar, then >> uh 6% decrease in fasting glucose. The >> uh 6% decrease in fasting glucose. The >> uh 6% decrease in fasting glucose. The idea is that muscle is your biggest sink idea is that muscle is your biggest sink idea is that muscle is your biggest sink for glucose, right? So 80% of that the for glucose, right? So 80% of that the for glucose, right? So 80% of that the glucose that's circulating is going to glucose that's circulating is going to glucose that's circulating is going to go into muscle and be stored as glycogen go into muscle and be stored as glycogen go into muscle and be stored as glycogen or be utilized, right? So that's step or be utilized, right? So that's step or be utilized, right? So that's step one. And then also muscle is a one. And then also muscle is a one. And then also muscle is a neuroindocrine organ. So it's going to neuroindocrine organ. So it's going to neuroindocrine organ. So it's going to also secrete u myoc brain power, right? Allowing you to make brain power, right? Allowing you to make better decisions um but also just make better decisions um but also just make better decisions um but also just make you feel better in general. you feel better in general. you feel better in general. >> Yeah. I there was one study I read out >> Yeah. I there was one study I read out >> Yeah. I there was one study I read out of I want to say it was Australia where of I want to say it was Australia where of I want to say it was Australia where they were looking at the impact of they were looking at the impact of they were looking at the impact of exercise on Alzheimer's uh and they were exercise on Alzheimer's uh and they were exercise on Alzheimer's uh and they were they were looking at the beta amalloid they were looking at the beta amalloid they were looking at the beta amalloid plaque and plaque and plaque and >> y >> y >> y >> and that strength training was the only >> and that strength training was the only >> and that strength training was the only intervention they found to halt the intervention they found to halt the intervention they found to halt the progression and might have even looked progression and might have even looked progression and might have even looked like it was starting to reverse um and like it was starting to reverse um and like it was starting to reverse um and they they compared it to other forms of they they compared it to other forms of they they compared it to other forms of exercise and um my theory is it had to exercise and um my theory is it had to exercise and um my theory is it had to do with the insulin sensitivity because do with the insulin sensitivity because do with the insulin sensitivity because um you know cognitive decline um you know cognitive decline um you know cognitive decline Alzheimer's dementia Some researchers Alzheimer's dementia Some researchers Alzheimer's dementia Some researchers will call it type three diabetes. will call it type three diabetes. will call it type three diabetes. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> So yeah. So talk about the brain health >> So yeah. So talk about the brain health >> So yeah. So talk about the brain health benefits of Yeah. benefits of Yeah. benefits of Yeah. >> having improve, you know, improved >> having improve, you know, improved >> having improve, you know, improved sensitivity to insulin. sensitivity to insulin. sensitivity to insulin. >> Yeah. Thousand%. We just talked about >> Yeah. Thousand%. We just talked about >> Yeah. Thousand%. We just talked about more time above range or let's say more time above range or let's say more time above range or let's say glucose variability, less executive glucose variability, less executive glucose variability, less executive functioning, but when you take that out functioning, but when you take that out functioning, but when you take that out over time, obviously over time, obviously over time, obviously Alzheimer's and or dementia has a Alzheimer's and or dementia has a Alzheimer's and or dementia has a metabolic component. And the other thing metabolic component. And the other thing metabolic component. And the other thing other association I'll make is when you other association I'll make is when you other association I'll make is when you have metabolic disease, you have have metabolic disease, you have have metabolic disease, you have vascular disease. vascular disease. vascular disease. >> So one of the issues with the brain is >> So one of the issues with the brain is >> So one of the issues with the brain is highly sensitive to changes in energy, highly sensitive to changes in energy, highly sensitive to changes in energy, right? Glucose requires a lot of energy, right? Glucose requires a lot of energy, right? Glucose requires a lot of energy, right? I think they're clocking the right? I think they're clocking the right? I think they're clocking the optic nerve as one of the one of the optic nerve as one of the one of the optic nerve as one of the one of the levels that requires the most oxygen. So levels that requires the most oxygen. So levels that requires the most oxygen. So requires a lot of oxygen and energy requires a lot of oxygen and energy requires a lot of oxygen and energy glucose very sensitive. Um if you look glucose very sensitive. Um if you look glucose very sensitive. Um if you look at people who have insulin resistance, at people who have insulin resistance, at people who have insulin resistance, you're going to increase your risk of you're going to increase your risk of you're going to increase your risk of dementia by almost 70%. And then dementia by almost 70%. And then dementia by almost 70%. And then vascular in dementia is higher than vascular in dementia is higher than vascular in dementia is higher than that, right? that, right? that, right? >> And for me, you know, this is my >> And for me, you know, this is my >> And for me, you know, this is my personal sentiment, but if you look at personal sentiment, but if you look at personal sentiment, but if you look at all these uh problems that humans have, all these uh problems that humans have, all these uh problems that humans have, one component is always going to be one component is always going to be one component is always going to be blood flow, right? That's how the body blood flow, right? That's how the body blood flow, right? That's how the body talks. That's how it brings in oxygen. talks. That's how it brings in oxygen. talks. That's how it brings in oxygen. That's how it brings in nutrients. And That's how it brings in nutrients. And That's how it brings in nutrients. And that's how it takes out toxins, you that's how it takes out toxins, you that's how it takes out toxins, you know? So dementia's on the rise, know? So dementia's on the rise, know? So dementia's on the rise, Alzheimer's on the d the rise and that Alzheimer's on the d the rise and that Alzheimer's on the d the rise and that pathophysiology is very very very pathophysiology is very very very pathophysiology is very very very similar. The whole point of this talk is similar. The whole point of this talk is similar. The whole point of this talk is like how can I take a look at someone like how can I take a look at someone like how can I take a look at someone who's sick who's sick who's sick >> and try to not do stuff to get to that >> and try to not do stuff to get to that >> and try to not do stuff to get to that point, point, point, >> right? So someone who has dementia, I >> right? So someone who has dementia, I >> right? So someone who has dementia, I mean that there's nothing worse than mean that there's nothing worse than mean that there's nothing worse than losing your mind, especially if you're losing your mind, especially if you're losing your mind, especially if you're able-bodied. able-bodied. able-bodied. >> So those are very very very um those >> So those are very very very um those >> So those are very very very um those correlate strongly. I always found it correlate strongly. I always found it correlate strongly. I always found it interesting when people would uh debate interesting when people would uh debate interesting when people would uh debate or question whether or not um cognitive or question whether or not um cognitive or question whether or not um cognitive decline decline decline uh was a result of metabolic dysfunction uh was a result of metabolic dysfunction uh was a result of metabolic dysfunction when we've had studies been around for a when we've had studies been around for a when we've had studies been around for a long time. We've known this for a long long time. We've known this for a long long time. We've known this for a long time that if you put a person with time that if you put a person with time that if you put a person with Alzheimer's or dementia on a ketogenic Alzheimer's or dementia on a ketogenic Alzheimer's or dementia on a ketogenic diet, diet, diet, >> we see improvements in cognitive >> we see improvements in cognitive >> we see improvements in cognitive function. Not that that's a cure, but function. Not that that's a cure, but function. Not that that's a cure, but obviously, obviously, obviously, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> something's going on there because we're >> something's going on there because we're >> something's going on there because we're switching energy sources and suddenly switching energy sources and suddenly switching energy sources and suddenly their scores their scores their scores uh move in the opposite direction of uh move in the opposite direction of uh move in the opposite direction of where they've been moving for the last, where they've been moving for the last, where they've been moving for the last, you know, 10 years. So, to me, that you know, 10 years. So, to me, that you know, 10 years. So, to me, that seems like a very obvious like there's seems like a very obvious like there's seems like a very obvious like there's something metabolically going on here. something metabolically going on here. something metabolically going on here. >> Yeah. And you see how also the how >> Yeah. And you see how also the how >> Yeah. And you see how also the how sensitive the brain is to sensitive the brain is to sensitive the brain is to neuroinflammation, right? Yeah. neuroinflammation, right? Yeah. neuroinflammation, right? Yeah. >> So when you have impaired glucose, you >> So when you have impaired glucose, you >> So when you have impaired glucose, you have impaired fat deposition and that have impaired fat deposition and that have impaired fat deposition and that those that sugar that's circ circulating those that sugar that's circ circulating those that sugar that's circ circulating around the brain is going to cause around the brain is going to cause around the brain is going to cause inflammatory products and you can even inflammatory products and you can even inflammatory products and you can even have acute cognitive changes while sugar have acute cognitive changes while sugar have acute cognitive changes while sugar is high. Well, I'm curious um to ask you is high. Well, I'm curious um to ask you is high. Well, I'm curious um to ask you about uh with the rise of GLP1s and like about uh with the rise of GLP1s and like about uh with the rise of GLP1s and like what you found uh you know in your own what you found uh you know in your own what you found uh you know in your own practice or if you prescribe or you know practice or if you prescribe or you know practice or if you prescribe or you know if you've combined that with um these if you've combined that with um these if you've combined that with um these glucose monitors and like what kind of glucose monitors and like what kind of glucose monitors and like what kind of data and results you've seen from that? data and results you've seen from that? data and results you've seen from that? Yeah, I uh you know, when something Yeah, I uh you know, when something Yeah, I uh you know, when something gains popularity, gains popularity, gains popularity, we all win because we everyone starts we all win because we everyone starts we all win because we everyone starts using it, especially if they can make using it, especially if they can make using it, especially if they can make money on it off of it, right? Then we money on it off of it, right? Then we money on it off of it, right? Then we all get all these studies and we see how all get all these studies and we see how all get all these studies and we see how safe it is and all the other stuff it safe it is and all the other stuff it safe it is and all the other stuff it can do. We use G J G J G J G J G J G J G can do. We use G J G J G J G J G J G J G can do. We use G J G J G J G J G J G J G J G J G J G J GLP ones and I was using J G J G J G J GLP ones and I was using J G J G J G J GLP ones and I was using JLP ones for a long time before it kind JLP ones for a long time before it kind JLP ones for a long time before it kind of got popular. Um and so I love them. I of got popular. Um and so I love them. I of got popular. Um and so I love them. I think they have profoundly positive think they have profoundly positive think they have profoundly positive effects and I'll tell you the context of effects and I'll tell you the context of effects and I'll tell you the context of how you need to use them. how you need to use them. how you need to use them. >> But it does two things. And I talked >> But it does two things. And I talked >> But it does two things. And I talked about those behavioral studies where about those behavioral studies where about those behavioral studies where people were watching what they ate and people were watching what they ate and people were watching what they ate and they had a structured program. So the they had a structured program. So the they had a structured program. So the way I look at GLP1s is it is chemical way I look at GLP1s is it is chemical way I look at GLP1s is it is chemical boot camp, right? So when you put this boot camp, right? So when you put this boot camp, right? So when you put this in your body, it's going to be really in your body, it's going to be really in your body, it's going to be really hard. And I tell the clients like it is hard. And I tell the clients like it is hard. And I tell the clients like it is really hard to eat poorly because you really hard to eat poorly because you really hard to eat poorly because you get really sick, right? That's what I've get really sick, right? That's what I've get really sick, right? That's what I've seen in my clinic, right? And what do I seen in my clinic, right? And what do I seen in my clinic, right? And what do I mean? mean? mean? >> Well, if you have two glasses of wine >> Well, if you have two glasses of wine >> Well, if you have two glasses of wine and a piece of pizza and some ice cream, and a piece of pizza and some ice cream, and a piece of pizza and some ice cream, you're going to have a bad night. Yeah. you're going to have a bad night. Yeah. you're going to have a bad night. Yeah. >> And so it becomes chemical boot camp, >> And so it becomes chemical boot camp, >> And so it becomes chemical boot camp, right? So even if I can't be with them right? So even if I can't be with them right? So even if I can't be with them there there there and I'll even tell them I'm like, "Hey, and I'll even tell them I'm like, "Hey, and I'll even tell them I'm like, "Hey, you're going to get sick. Not that I you're going to get sick. Not that I you're going to get sick. Not that I want you to get sick, but you won't do want you to get sick, but you won't do want you to get sick, but you won't do it again, right?" And so that medication it again, right?" And so that medication it again, right?" And so that medication has really really two b two large has really really two b two large has really really two b two large benefits. One, it's going to lower benefits. One, it's going to lower benefits. One, it's going to lower appetite and and lower gastric emptying. appetite and and lower gastric emptying. appetite and and lower gastric emptying. So people are going to eat less caloric So people are going to eat less caloric So people are going to eat less caloric restriction. And then boom, it's gonna restriction. And then boom, it's gonna restriction. And then boom, it's gonna fix insulin sensitivity or let's say fix insulin sensitivity or let's say fix insulin sensitivity or let's say enhance insulin sensitivity. And so you enhance insulin sensitivity. And so you enhance insulin sensitivity. And so you even see like the FDA has now approved even see like the FDA has now approved even see like the FDA has now approved it for cardiovascular risk, right? Less it for cardiovascular risk, right? Less it for cardiovascular risk, right? Less hospital admissions hospital admissions hospital admissions um lower cardiovascular events and then um lower cardiovascular events and then um lower cardiovascular events and then even kidney protection. So chronic even kidney protection. So chronic even kidney protection. So chronic kidney disease, they're using it's FDA kidney disease, they're using it's FDA kidney disease, they're using it's FDA approved. And kidney disease is a approved. And kidney disease is a approved. And kidney disease is a vascular disease. Right. vascular disease. Right. vascular disease. Right. >> Right. Those go hand in hand. Is this is >> Right. Those go hand in hand. Is this is >> Right. Those go hand in hand. Is this is are are we seeing uh improvements in are are we seeing uh improvements in are are we seeing uh improvements in insulin sensitivity from GLP-1s insulin sensitivity from GLP-1s insulin sensitivity from GLP-1s independent exclusively of the weight independent exclusively of the weight independent exclusively of the weight loss? Like are you like if like someone loss? Like are you like if like someone loss? Like are you like if like someone who has a CGM uses a GLP1 before they who has a CGM uses a GLP1 before they who has a CGM uses a GLP1 before they lose weight? lose weight? lose weight? >> How do you tease that out? >> How do you tease that out? >> How do you tease that out? >> How do you tease that out? >> How do you tease that out? >> How do you tease that out? >> You'd see it right away. I guess you >> You'd see it right away. I guess you >> You'd see it right away. I guess you would use it and you'd see would use it and you'd see would use it and you'd see >> Well, essentially you also Yeah, you can >> Well, essentially you also Yeah, you can >> Well, essentially you also Yeah, you can see that away right away in the CGM, but see that away right away in the CGM, but see that away right away in the CGM, but they have studied the medication. They they have studied the medication. They they have studied the medication. They know the mechanism of action, right? So know the mechanism of action, right? So know the mechanism of action, right? So even before we're again remember they're even before we're again remember they're even before we're again remember they're using this in diabetics using this in diabetics using this in diabetics >> before it got popular 20 plus years it's >> before it got popular 20 plus years it's >> before it got popular 20 plus years it's been around. been around. been around. >> So we already know that the it makes the >> So we already know that the it makes the >> So we already know that the it makes the periphery more sensitive to insulin or periphery more sensitive to insulin or periphery more sensitive to insulin or improves you know glucose control within improves you know glucose control within improves you know glucose control within the body. So side question, maybe you the body. So side question, maybe you the body. So side question, maybe you don't know the answer to this, but I'm don't know the answer to this, but I'm don't know the answer to this, but I'm I'm now seeing a lot of talk around PD5 I'm now seeing a lot of talk around PD5 I'm now seeing a lot of talk around PD5 inhibitors like Scialis. Uh not for what inhibitors like Scialis. Uh not for what inhibitors like Scialis. Uh not for what you typically would prescribe for, which you typically would prescribe for, which you typically would prescribe for, which is erectile dysfunction, but for is erectile dysfunction, but for is erectile dysfunction, but for longevity. Uh they're showing now that longevity. Uh they're showing now that longevity. Uh they're showing now that it's there's reductions in stroke and it's there's reductions in stroke and it's there's reductions in stroke and heart disease. Uh do you see any heart disease. Uh do you see any heart disease. Uh do you see any different when people use a CGM? Do you different when people use a CGM? Do you different when people use a CGM? Do you see a red do you see an improvement in see a red do you see an improvement in see a red do you see an improvement in insulin uh response or blood sugar insulin uh response or blood sugar insulin uh response or blood sugar response from it? response from it? response from it? >> S are you asking me for a script of >> S are you asking me for a script of >> S are you asking me for a script of Just subtle way. Just kidding. Just subtle way. Just kidding. Just subtle way. Just kidding. >> Yeah. And and honestly, that's how we >> Yeah. And and honestly, that's how we >> Yeah. And and honestly, that's how we use it, too. And you know, a lot of guys use it, too. And you know, a lot of guys use it, too. And you know, a lot of guys in the gym use it for in the gym use it for in the gym use it for >> performance. They've been doing that >> performance. They've been doing that >> performance. They've been doing that since we were all kids. since we were all kids. since we were all kids. >> Whether that helps for performance or >> Whether that helps for performance or >> Whether that helps for performance or not, that's what they're using it for. not, that's what they're using it for. not, that's what they're using it for. So, and I can easily relate this to So, and I can easily relate this to So, and I can easily relate this to stuff that kills you. So, the end stuff that kills you. So, the end stuff that kills you. So, the end product of phosphodiaserase inhibitor is product of phosphodiaserase inhibitor is product of phosphodiaserase inhibitor is nitric oxide. nitric oxide. nitric oxide. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Nitric oxide. Your body makes nitric >> Nitric oxide. Your body makes nitric >> Nitric oxide. Your body makes nitric oxide and you need nitric oxide for auto oxide and you need nitric oxide for auto oxide and you need nitric oxide for auto regulation which is just a fancy term regulation which is just a fancy term regulation which is just a fancy term for the blood vessels relaxing and for the blood vessels relaxing and for the blood vessels relaxing and squeezing squeezing squeezing >> in relation to the amount of oxygen you >> in relation to the amount of oxygen you >> in relation to the amount of oxygen you need right so yeah absolutely like we're need right so yeah absolutely like we're need right so yeah absolutely like we're they're using it on the regular to they're using it on the regular to they're using it on the regular to improve blood flow and as I told you improve blood flow and as I told you improve blood flow and as I told you like for me the whole discovery of me like for me the whole discovery of me like for me the whole discovery of me becoming this wellness doctor is becoming this wellness doctor is becoming this wellness doctor is realizing like I'm a blood flow doctor realizing like I'm a blood flow doctor realizing like I'm a blood flow doctor when organs died is blood flow and when organs died is blood flow and when organs died is blood flow and that's what people die of is that's what people die of is that's what people die of is cardiovascular heart attack and stroke, cardiovascular heart attack and stroke, cardiovascular heart attack and stroke, >> right? You don't die of diabetes. It's >> right? You don't die of diabetes. It's >> right? You don't die of diabetes. It's the same thing with sexual dysfunction, the same thing with sexual dysfunction, the same thing with sexual dysfunction, right? The same vessels in your penis or right? The same vessels in your penis or right? The same vessels in your penis or vagina are the same vessels in your vagina are the same vessels in your vagina are the same vessels in your heart and they work the same way. heart and they work the same way. heart and they work the same way. >> Yeah. And so we see if somebody uses a >> Yeah. And so we see if somebody uses a >> Yeah. And so we see if somebody uses a PD5 inhibitor, do we automatically are PD5 inhibitor, do we automatically are PD5 inhibitor, do we automatically are you seeing immediate like changes in you seeing immediate like changes in you seeing immediate like changes in their CGM readings? Is it is it showing their CGM readings? Is it is it showing their CGM readings? Is it is it showing up in that way or does it take longer? up in that way or does it take longer? up in that way or does it take longer? Yeah, the the context the Yeah, the Yeah, the the context the Yeah, the Yeah, the the context the Yeah, the context for me is more of uh blood flow. context for me is more of uh blood flow. context for me is more of uh blood flow. Okay. Right. So, it's more of improving Okay. Right. So, it's more of improving Okay. Right. So, it's more of improving blood flow to organs. Sure. Right. blood flow to organs. Sure. Right. blood flow to organs. Sure. Right. >> Okay. Yeah. Exercise is the essentially >> Okay. Yeah. Exercise is the essentially >> Okay. Yeah. Exercise is the essentially the vascular system relaxing, the vascular system relaxing, the vascular system relaxing, contracting, contracting, contracting, >> keeping the endothelial. >> keeping the endothelial. >> keeping the endothelial. >> Yes. Uh and and also when you have uh >> Yes. Uh and and also when you have uh >> Yes. Uh and and also when you have uh metabolic dysfunction, the biggest issue metabolic dysfunction, the biggest issue metabolic dysfunction, the biggest issue is vascular dysfunction, right? Vascular is vascular dysfunction, right? Vascular is vascular dysfunction, right? Vascular inflammation, right? that process, that inflammation, right? that process, that inflammation, right? that process, that cascade of you've heard that that term cascade of you've heard that that term cascade of you've heard that that term where I've heard a couple people say where I've heard a couple people say where I've heard a couple people say like the difference between a sick like the difference between a sick like the difference between a sick person and a healthy person is a person and a healthy person is a person and a healthy person is a teaspoon of sugar in your blood. teaspoon of sugar in your blood. teaspoon of sugar in your blood. >> The major insult is insult to the >> The major insult is insult to the >> The major insult is insult to the endothelium, the inner that glycoalix, endothelium, the inner that glycoalix, endothelium, the inner that glycoalix, that slimy layer of the vessel, right? that slimy layer of the vessel, right? that slimy layer of the vessel, right? And you know, even if you look at, let's And you know, even if you look at, let's And you know, even if you look at, let's just talk about like sexual dysfunction just talk about like sexual dysfunction just talk about like sexual dysfunction in men. Um, in men. Um, in men. Um, across the general population, it's like across the general population, it's like across the general population, it's like 25%, which I think is still kind of 25%, which I think is still kind of 25%, which I think is still kind of ridiculous, right? That's one in four. ridiculous, right? That's one in four. ridiculous, right? That's one in four. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When you look at someone with metabolic >> When you look at someone with metabolic >> When you look at someone with metabolic resistance, that jumps to like 50%. It's resistance, that jumps to like 50%. It's resistance, that jumps to like 50%. It's like half. like half. like half. >> So >> So >> So clearly that's a vascular issue. Clearly clearly that's a vascular issue. Clearly clearly that's a vascular issue. Clearly heart attack and stroke is a vascular heart attack and stroke is a vascular heart attack and stroke is a vascular issue, right? That's the problem. So, issue, right? That's the problem. So, issue, right? That's the problem. So, and and when you have hyper or diabetes, and and when you have hyper or diabetes, and and when you have hyper or diabetes, you have high blood pressure, right? The you have high blood pressure, right? The you have high blood pressure, right? The diabetes is causing the high blood diabetes is causing the high blood diabetes is causing the high blood pressure. pressure. pressure. >> What What percentage of your clients >> What What percentage of your clients >> What What percentage of your clients that you're helping uh battle with that you're helping uh battle with that you're helping uh battle with sexual dysfunction? sexual dysfunction? sexual dysfunction? >> I mean, anecdotally, like in my opinion, >> I mean, anecdotally, like in my opinion, >> I mean, anecdotally, like in my opinion, it's an epidemic. It's a lot. I mean, it's an epidemic. It's a lot. I mean, it's an epidemic. It's a lot. I mean, probably half of my clinic is sexual probably half of my clinic is sexual probably half of my clinic is sexual dysfunction. And this is also this is dysfunction. And this is also this is dysfunction. And this is also this is also jaw-dropping. This is this is this also jaw-dropping. This is this is this also jaw-dropping. This is this is this is going to rock your world. is going to rock your world. is going to rock your world. the people with metabolic res or excuse the people with metabolic res or excuse the people with metabolic res or excuse me when you have obesity up to a 13-fold me when you have obesity up to a 13-fold me when you have obesity up to a 13-fold increase in hypogonatism and I'm not increase in hypogonatism and I'm not increase in hypogonatism and I'm not saying sexual dysfunction is just saying sexual dysfunction is just saying sexual dysfunction is just testosterone testosterone testosterone >> right >> right >> right >> it's blood flow it's multiffactorial you >> it's blood flow it's multiffactorial you >> it's blood flow it's multiffactorial you know know know >> it's all connected >> it's all connected >> it's all connected >> yeah if a guy comes to me and he's like >> yeah if a guy comes to me and he's like >> yeah if a guy comes to me and he's like hey I hate my wife and you know she hey I hate my wife and you know she hey I hate my wife and you know she insults me and I don't get an erection insults me and I don't get an erection insults me and I don't get an erection I'm not going to say hey it's your I'm not going to say hey it's your I'm not going to say hey it's your metabolic health right our brain is our metabolic health right our brain is our metabolic health right our brain is our biggest sexual organ right biggest sexual organ right biggest sexual organ right >> so we're going to unpack that a little >> so we're going to unpack that a little >> so we're going to unpack that a little bit but I'm going to say like hey let's bit but I'm going to say like hey let's bit but I'm going to say like hey let's look at some labs look at some labs look at some labs Let's check the physiology. But I I Let's check the physiology. But I I Let's check the physiology. But I I think it is an epidemic. Like it is not think it is an epidemic. Like it is not think it is an epidemic. Like it is not only on the rise, but it's ridiculous. only on the rise, but it's ridiculous. only on the rise, but it's ridiculous. And the other thing I'll talk about real And the other thing I'll talk about real And the other thing I'll talk about real quick is women. quick is women. quick is women. The And this this shocked me. The The And this this shocked me. The The And this this shocked me. The percentage of women across the percentage of women across the percentage of women across the population that have sexual dysfunction population that have sexual dysfunction population that have sexual dysfunction is 43%. General population. is 43%. General population. is 43%. General population. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah. So that >> Yeah. So that >> Yeah. So that >> how do they measure sexual dysfunction >> how do they measure sexual dysfunction >> how do they measure sexual dysfunction for women? Because you're not measuring for women? Because you're not measuring for women? Because you're not measuring erectile. erectile. erectile. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and that that's a good >> Yeah. Yeah. And and that that's a good >> Yeah. Yeah. And and that that's a good question because question because question because >> yeah that's a good question because path >> yeah that's a good question because path >> yeah that's a good question because path pathophysiology is the same. It's still pathophysiology is the same. It's still pathophysiology is the same. It's still blood flow to the sexual organs. So blood flow to the sexual organs. So blood flow to the sexual organs. So desire, desire, desire, >> dryness, >> dryness, >> dryness, >> pain, right? Um libido, >> pain, right? Um libido, >> pain, right? Um libido, >> orgasm, right? Mhm. >> orgasm, right? Mhm. >> orgasm, right? Mhm. >> Um and then and one interesting >> Um and then and one interesting >> Um and then and one interesting connection I will make from that obser connection I will make from that obser connection I will make from that obser the behavioral modification the look the behavioral modification the look the behavioral modification the look ahead trial such a prolific trial that ahead trial such a prolific trial that ahead trial such a prolific trial that they had these spin-off studies and one they had these spin-off studies and one they had these spin-off studies and one of them was women's sexual dysfunction. of them was women's sexual dysfunction. of them was women's sexual dysfunction. And so in that trial of the people who And so in that trial of the people who And so in that trial of the people who had metabolic resistance or had obesity had metabolic resistance or had obesity had metabolic resistance or had obesity 50% had sexual dysfunction with the 50% had sexual dysfunction with the 50% had sexual dysfunction with the modification or this structured program modification or this structured program modification or this structured program 30% went into remission. So again, you 30% went into remission. So again, you 30% went into remission. So again, you know, that statistic is shocking. 43%. know, that statistic is shocking. 43%. know, that statistic is shocking. 43%. It's higher with people of in women, but It's higher with people of in women, but It's higher with people of in women, but it's, you know, we see a man, we're it's, you know, we see a man, we're it's, you know, we see a man, we're like, "Okay, I can't get an erection. like, "Okay, I can't get an erection. like, "Okay, I can't get an erection. It's obviously a vascular issue." Right. It's obviously a vascular issue." Right. It's obviously a vascular issue." Right. >> Right. But women struggle with this, >> Right. But women struggle with this, >> Right. But women struggle with this, too. too. too. >> Interesting. How How are CGMs being used >> Interesting. How How are CGMs being used >> Interesting. How How are CGMs being used now for behavioral modification? Because now for behavioral modification? Because now for behavioral modification? Because CGMs measure your glucose in real time. CGMs measure your glucose in real time. CGMs measure your glucose in real time. How do you combine that with uh coaching How do you combine that with uh coaching How do you combine that with uh coaching or you know behavior to like what are or you know behavior to like what are or you know behavior to like what are you looking at and how are you using you looking at and how are you using you looking at and how are you using that as a tool to help somebody? that as a tool to help somebody? that as a tool to help somebody? >> Yeah. I'd like you to take me through a >> Yeah. I'd like you to take me through a >> Yeah. I'd like you to take me through a week one I just signed up with you. I've week one I just signed up with you. I've week one I just signed up with you. I've got metabolic dysfunction. got metabolic dysfunction. got metabolic dysfunction. >> Yeah. What do you do you just let me eat >> Yeah. What do you do you just let me eat >> Yeah. What do you do you just let me eat what I normally eat and monitor me what I normally eat and monitor me what I normally eat and monitor me first? Do you give me stuff like tell me first? Do you give me stuff like tell me first? Do you give me stuff like tell me what a week looks like when we we get what a week looks like when we we get what a week looks like when we we get together. together. together. >> Yeah. Well, I also you know again I >> Yeah. Well, I also you know again I >> Yeah. Well, I also you know again I operate out of the out of the clinic operate out of the out of the clinic operate out of the out of the clinic too. So I have the benefit of taking too. So I have the benefit of taking too. So I have the benefit of taking comprehensive labs. comprehensive labs. comprehensive labs. >> So we it's even even more interesting >> So we it's even even more interesting >> So we it's even even more interesting when I can show them the labs and then when I can show them the labs and then when I can show them the labs and then show them the CGM which is this beatto show them the CGM which is this beatto show them the CGM which is this beatto beat look at their glucose beat look at their glucose beat look at their glucose >> and then give them the context of like >> and then give them the context of like >> and then give them the context of like hey if you don't do this these are the hey if you don't do this these are the hey if you don't do this these are the problems. But week one is really just problems. But week one is really just problems. But week one is really just what I want to do is I want to get their what I want to do is I want to get their what I want to do is I want to get their baseline baseline baseline >> right so do your thing. I'm like, don't >> right so do your thing. I'm like, don't >> right so do your thing. I'm like, don't because you know what people do. You because you know what people do. You because you know what people do. You guys are in the space, right? guys are in the space, right? guys are in the space, right? >> You know, and even when you ask that, >> You know, and even when you ask that, >> You know, and even when you ask that, you know, the 90% clean bros, you know, the 90% clean bros, you know, the 90% clean bros, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I eat 90% clean, right? >> I eat 90% clean, right? >> I eat 90% clean, right? >> I'm like, "Okay, well, let's like test >> I'm like, "Okay, well, let's like test >> I'm like, "Okay, well, let's like test it." And and and that's also like the it." And and and that's also like the it." And and and that's also like the biggest takeaway is I get clowned biggest takeaway is I get clowned biggest takeaway is I get clowned sometimes by clients. I'm like, "Hey, sometimes by clients. I'm like, "Hey, sometimes by clients. I'm like, "Hey, you should you should figure how's your you should you should figure how's your you should you should figure how's your sleep?" "Oh, sleep hygiene." They're sleep?" "Oh, sleep hygiene." They're sleep?" "Oh, sleep hygiene." They're like, "Yeah, don't even go. I know that. like, "Yeah, don't even go. I know that. like, "Yeah, don't even go. I know that. I do it." I'm like, "Okay, well, let's I do it." I'm like, "Okay, well, let's I do it." I'm like, "Okay, well, let's unpack that." Well, there's eight or unpack that." Well, there's eight or unpack that." Well, there's eight or nine steps to sleep hygiene. What you nine steps to sleep hygiene. What you nine steps to sleep hygiene. What you find out is they're maybe doing two 40% find out is they're maybe doing two 40% find out is they're maybe doing two 40% of the time and three 10% of the time, of the time and three 10% of the time, of the time and three 10% of the time, right? right? right? >> It's the same thing with all of the >> It's the same thing with all of the >> It's the same thing with all of the other lifestyle modifications. other lifestyle modifications. other lifestyle modifications. They're doing some of it, They're doing some of it, They're doing some of it, >> not all the time. >> not all the time. >> not all the time. >> So, week one, I'm like, don't change >> So, week one, I'm like, don't change >> So, week one, I'm like, don't change anything. And they still will, anything. And they still will, anything. And they still will, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I actually have to make it a point to >> I actually have to make it a point to >> I actually have to make it a point to like, listen, if you ever occasionally like, listen, if you ever occasionally like, listen, if you ever occasionally have a Snickers and let have that I want have a Snickers and let have that I want have a Snickers and let have that I want you to do that thing. Yeah. You got to you to do that thing. Yeah. You got to you to do that thing. Yeah. You got to be Give me a week. And that's that's be Give me a week. And that's that's be Give me a week. And that's that's also the problem with other companies also the problem with other companies also the problem with other companies that don't have that one-on-one that don't have that one-on-one that don't have that one-on-one dietitian contact or even in my clinic. dietitian contact or even in my clinic. dietitian contact or even in my clinic. If someone puts something just the bias If someone puts something just the bias If someone puts something just the bias of checking, you're going to be living a of checking, you're going to be living a of checking, you're going to be living a lot better than you normally do. Right. lot better than you normally do. Right. lot better than you normally do. Right. >> So, you're going to be like, "Oh, I'm >> So, you're going to be like, "Oh, I'm >> So, you're going to be like, "Oh, I'm good. Perfect. Take this thing off and good. Perfect. Take this thing off and good. Perfect. Take this thing off and go back to what I'm doing." go back to what I'm doing." go back to what I'm doing." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so, that's what I told you. The >> And so, that's what I told you. The >> And so, that's what I told you. The biggest impact is biggest impact is biggest impact is >> this stuff is if I told you, hey, move >> this stuff is if I told you, hey, move >> this stuff is if I told you, hey, move more, eat less. You're like, "Cool more, eat less. You're like, "Cool more, eat less. You're like, "Cool podcast, bro." But you need to do that podcast, bro." But you need to do that podcast, bro." But you need to do that over a long period of time, all of these over a long period of time, all of these over a long period of time, all of these little nuances that add up. little nuances that add up. little nuances that add up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How um have you gotten to the place >> How um have you gotten to the place >> How um have you gotten to the place where the more you look at the stuff you where the more you look at the stuff you where the more you look at the stuff you because I'm sure you get some of this because I'm sure you get some of this because I'm sure you get some of this push back like I got to plan my sleep. I push back like I got to plan my sleep. I push back like I got to plan my sleep. I got to do all these steps. I got to look got to do all these steps. I got to look got to do all these steps. I got to look at this that the other. at this that the other. at this that the other. >> Um it's Have you got to the place where >> Um it's Have you got to the place where >> Um it's Have you got to the place where you're like, well, I think the world is you're like, well, I think the world is you're like, well, I think the world is just designed to make us really just designed to make us really just designed to make us really unhealthy. So that's why we have to do unhealthy. So that's why we have to do unhealthy. So that's why we have to do all this because we weren't really all this because we weren't really all this because we weren't really supposed to. supposed to. supposed to. >> Wait though. I want to I want cuz I know >> Wait though. I want to I want cuz I know >> Wait though. I want to I want cuz I know it doesn't end where take me step by it doesn't end where take me step by it doesn't end where take me step by because it links to what you're going because it links to what you're going because it links to what you're going where you're going right now like okay where you're going right now like okay where you're going right now like okay so the client here's my week and I'm so the client here's my week and I'm so the client here's my week and I'm assuming he's got similar advice like assuming he's got similar advice like assuming he's got similar advice like how we take someone it's not like do all how we take someone it's not like do all how we take someone it's not like do all these things these things these things >> right cuz I'm sure you've already >> right cuz I'm sure you've already >> right cuz I'm sure you've already learned that that doesn't work very well learned that that doesn't work very well learned that that doesn't work very well either when you give them the all the either when you give them the all the either when you give them the all the answers answers answers >> so so I do this week and you you see all >> so so I do this week and you you see all >> so so I do this week and you you see all this [ __ ] that jumps out at you this [ __ ] that jumps out at you this [ __ ] that jumps out at you >> and we and we look and so what what does >> and we and we look and so what what does >> and we and we look and so what what does it look like? Do you choose one big it look like? Do you choose one big it look like? Do you choose one big rock? Do you like this is the first rock? Do you like this is the first rock? Do you like this is the first lever we're going to pull? Like how do lever we're going to pull? Like how do lever we're going to pull? Like how do you coach me through that after you get you coach me through that after you get you coach me through that after you get my [ __ ] labs and [ __ ] week that I give my [ __ ] labs and [ __ ] week that I give my [ __ ] labs and [ __ ] week that I give you? you? you? >> Because that's probably what it is for >> Because that's probably what it is for >> Because that's probably what it is for most people, right? Let's be honest. most people, right? Let's be honest. most people, right? Let's be honest. >> Yeah. Well, the first thing I do is set >> Yeah. Well, the first thing I do is set >> Yeah. Well, the first thing I do is set expectations. And I and I'll even say expectations. And I and I'll even say expectations. And I and I'll even say this, you know, I'm giving away all my this, you know, I'm giving away all my this, you know, I'm giving away all my little secrets, but I'll be like, "Look, little secrets, but I'll be like, "Look, little secrets, but I'll be like, "Look, you will know what I'm saying. Don't you will know what I'm saying. Don't you will know what I'm saying. Don't believe me. Well, you you believe it believe me. Well, you you believe it believe me. Well, you you believe it when you see it, but you'll know what when you see it, but you'll know what when you see it, but you'll know what I'm saying is true you when you feel I'm saying is true you when you feel I'm saying is true you when you feel better." But I was like, "This is not better." But I was like, "This is not better." But I was like, "This is not going to change in 30 or 60 days. It may going to change in 30 or 60 days. It may going to change in 30 or 60 days. It may change in 300 or 400 days. and we are change in 300 or 400 days. and we are change in 300 or 400 days. and we are going to work through it step by step, going to work through it step by step, going to work through it step by step, right? And I will give, you know, our right? And I will give, you know, our right? And I will give, you know, our slogan at Thrive is called empowering slogan at Thrive is called empowering slogan at Thrive is called empowering your health. So I'll tell the client your health. So I'll tell the client your health. So I'll tell the client like here's what I think the biggest like here's what I think the biggest like here's what I think the biggest levers are and I'll give them a choice. levers are and I'll give them a choice. levers are and I'll give them a choice. I'm like you should start with one of I'm like you should start with one of I'm like you should start with one of these three but only start with one at a these three but only start with one at a these three but only start with one at a time, right? because I want you to see time, right? because I want you to see time, right? because I want you to see on the CGM how what impact that has or on the CGM how what impact that has or on the CGM how what impact that has or the way you feel or you know the your the way you feel or you know the your the way you feel or you know the your behaviors you know inter and and that's behaviors you know inter and and that's behaviors you know inter and and that's also what the app will do is it gives also what the app will do is it gives also what the app will do is it gives you context when did you eat how are you you context when did you eat how are you you context when did you eat how are you feeling what did you do feeling what did you do feeling what did you do >> who did you talk to >> who did you talk to >> who did you talk to >> right cuz I told you people will >> right cuz I told you people will >> right cuz I told you people will automatically associate something I felt automatically associate something I felt automatically associate something I felt like [ __ ] today it's probably because I like [ __ ] today it's probably because I like [ __ ] today it's probably because I had the taco I was like well it's had the taco I was like well it's had the taco I was like well it's probably the taco and also the stress probably the taco and also the stress probably the taco and also the stress with your you know friend. I don't know. with your you know friend. I don't know. with your you know friend. I don't know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> You got to bring all that stuff into >> You got to bring all that stuff into >> You got to bring all that stuff into context. And what I also call it is your context. And what I also call it is your context. And what I also call it is your health circle. And again, I am not health circle. And again, I am not health circle. And again, I am not immune to this. As you say, like the the immune to this. As you say, like the the immune to this. As you say, like the the overlords have us all under this overlords have us all under this overlords have us all under this distraction and things that are killing distraction and things that are killing distraction and things that are killing us. So, I'm not immune to that. But when us. So, I'm not immune to that. But when us. So, I'm not immune to that. But when I'm feeling bad, I go and data check I'm feeling bad, I go and data check I'm feeling bad, I go and data check myself and go, "Oh, you know, I didn't myself and go, "Oh, you know, I didn't myself and go, "Oh, you know, I didn't take I didn't uh I was not on my sleep take I didn't uh I was not on my sleep take I didn't uh I was not on my sleep game, you know, or I changed my diet a game, you know, or I changed my diet a game, you know, or I changed my diet a little bit or something was off." And so little bit or something was off." And so little bit or something was off." And so then the client learns, put these pieces then the client learns, put these pieces then the client learns, put these pieces of the puzzle back into the place, they of the puzzle back into the place, they of the puzzle back into the place, they start feeling better. How do you discern start feeling better. How do you discern start feeling better. How do you discern between what you know is the three between what you know is the three between what you know is the three biggest levers and then also what you've biggest levers and then also what you've biggest levers and then also what you've probably pieced together as the easiest probably pieced together as the easiest probably pieced together as the easiest for adherence. So this is something that for adherence. So this is something that for adherence. So this is something that over decades of coaching people um I over decades of coaching people um I over decades of coaching people um I sure have the the math equation to get sure have the the math equation to get sure have the the math equation to get this person in the great best shape of this person in the great best shape of this person in the great best shape of their life. But I also know and I know their life. But I also know and I know their life. But I also know and I know that this is the biggest lever but I that this is the biggest lever but I that this is the biggest lever but I also know too that could be a big step also know too that could be a big step also know too that could be a big step for a lot of people. And so sometimes I for a lot of people. And so sometimes I for a lot of people. And so sometimes I don't always advise the biggest lever or don't always advise the biggest lever or don't always advise the biggest lever or the best thing. So how do you like first the best thing. So how do you like first the best thing. So how do you like first of all give me what those kind of levers of all give me what those kind of levers of all give me what those kind of levers are and then how do you discern where are and then how do you discern where are and then how do you discern where you go first with a client? Is it always you go first with a client? Is it always you go first with a client? Is it always the same or is do you notice based off the same or is do you notice based off the same or is do you notice based off of the the conversation like this guy's of the the conversation like this guy's of the the conversation like this guy's going to have struggle doing pulling going to have struggle doing pulling going to have struggle doing pulling this lever? this lever? this lever? >> Yeah. for well for me the biggest levers >> Yeah. for well for me the biggest levers >> Yeah. for well for me the biggest levers personally that I work with and clients personally that I work with and clients personally that I work with and clients are got to be they have to be resistance are got to be they have to be resistance are got to be they have to be resistance training followed by food right you know training followed by food right you know training followed by food right you know and specifically let's just say that you and specifically let's just say that you and specifically let's just say that you know for me I told you it's we want to know for me I told you it's we want to know for me I told you it's we want to make the body resilient make the body resilient make the body resilient >> right I want to get their body >> right I want to get their body >> right I want to get their body composition better to make them this composition better to make them this composition better to make them this welloiled machine and go out in the welloiled machine and go out in the welloiled machine and go out in the world and handle toxins whatever that is world and handle toxins whatever that is world and handle toxins whatever that is >> so we know that that's resistance >> so we know that that's resistance >> so we know that that's resistance training and also probably is going to training and also probably is going to training and also probably is going to be caloric deficit, which means we got be caloric deficit, which means we got be caloric deficit, which means we got to stick with protein. I understand that to stick with protein. I understand that to stick with protein. I understand that that's going to overwhelm them, but I that's going to overwhelm them, but I that's going to overwhelm them, but I try to stick to something that's going try to stick to something that's going try to stick to something that's going to build trust. And generally, when to build trust. And generally, when to build trust. And generally, when people start losing weight and they feel people start losing weight and they feel people start losing weight and they feel maybe they have a little bit better maybe they have a little bit better maybe they have a little bit better better body image so that it puts them better body image so that it puts them better body image so that it puts them in a positive state of mind. You know, in a positive state of mind. You know, in a positive state of mind. You know, the one of the ways the brain works is the one of the ways the brain works is the one of the ways the brain works is error correction. So, everyone thinks error correction. So, everyone thinks error correction. So, everyone thinks like, okay, cool. um you know dopamine like, okay, cool. um you know dopamine like, okay, cool. um you know dopamine is a reward molecule and it is and it's is a reward molecule and it is and it's is a reward molecule and it is and it's all about anticipation but it's error all about anticipation but it's error all about anticipation but it's error correction. So if you look at high correction. So if you look at high correction. So if you look at high performers, performers, performers, they are in this this range where it's they are in this this range where it's they are in this this range where it's not too hard and not too little, right? not too hard and not too little, right? not too hard and not too little, right? You don't want to make it too hard or You don't want to make it too hard or You don't want to make it too hard or too little, just right where you make a too little, just right where you make a too little, just right where you make a mistake, fix it, and the CGM can show mistake, fix it, and the CGM can show mistake, fix it, and the CGM can show you. you. you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like, hey, you you did great all week, >> Like, hey, you you did great all week, >> Like, hey, you you did great all week, and then Friday you just, I don't know, and then Friday you just, I don't know, and then Friday you just, I don't know, you [ __ ] the bed, and then boom, you you [ __ ] the bed, and then boom, you you [ __ ] the bed, and then boom, you feel bad. feel bad. feel bad. >> Correct. And get back. That that's you >> Correct. And get back. That that's you >> Correct. And get back. That that's you get dopamine in your brain. So that's get dopamine in your brain. So that's get dopamine in your brain. So that's that's how you actually rewrite your that's how you actually rewrite your that's how you actually rewrite your brain. It's so cool to hear you answer brain. It's so cool to hear you answer brain. It's so cool to hear you answer the in that that way coming from your the in that that way coming from your the in that that way coming from your profession and your angle because I feel profession and your angle because I feel profession and your angle because I feel like although we're in similar fields, like although we're in similar fields, like although we're in similar fields, we come at it at different angles. And we come at it at different angles. And we come at it at different angles. And those are the first two things that we those are the first two things that we those are the first two things that we tell people and it's it's get can I get tell people and it's it's get can I get tell people and it's it's get can I get them to the gym once or twice a week them to the gym once or twice a week them to the gym once or twice a week full body strength training routine and full body strength training routine and full body strength training routine and can I get them to eat high protein? can I get them to eat high protein? can I get them to eat high protein? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it and those two things are such big >> And it and those two things are such big >> And it and those two things are such big rocks and levers that it does tend to rocks and levers that it does tend to rocks and levers that it does tend to fix a lot of the other things. And if I fix a lot of the other things. And if I fix a lot of the other things. And if I can just get them to commit to that, can just get them to commit to that, can just get them to commit to that, then I could start to to build off of then I could start to to build off of then I could start to to build off of that. So to hear you say that from, you that. So to hear you say that from, you that. So to hear you say that from, you know, where you're standing and all the know, where you're standing and all the know, where you're standing and all the like that just shows how many people like that just shows how many people like that just shows how many people you've probably helped in your career you've probably helped in your career you've probably helped in your career because that's what we talk all about because that's what we talk all about because that's what we talk all about all the time. And people kind of mock or all the time. And people kind of mock or all the time. And people kind of mock or uh you know make fun of or scoff at uh you know make fun of or scoff at uh you know make fun of or scoff at that. That's like what we we simplified that. That's like what we we simplified that. That's like what we we simplified down to. But it's like, man, those are down to. But it's like, man, those are down to. But it's like, man, those are such big rocks that if someone such big rocks that if someone such big rocks that if someone consistently consistently consistently >> hits high protein intake, we know that >> hits high protein intake, we know that >> hits high protein intake, we know that it's going to naturally start to modify it's going to naturally start to modify it's going to naturally start to modify their cravings and and their calories. their cravings and and their calories. their cravings and and their calories. And if they just do two full body And if they just do two full body And if they just do two full body workouts a week, the amount of muscle workouts a week, the amount of muscle workouts a week, the amount of muscle and strength that they can build and and strength that they can build and and strength that they can build and what that will do metabolically for what that will do metabolically for what that will do metabolically for them, strengthwise for them, and a lot them, strengthwise for them, and a lot them, strengthwise for them, and a lot of times it even improves some sleep and of times it even improves some sleep and of times it even improves some sleep and energy. So, it's it's cool to hear that energy. So, it's it's cool to hear that energy. So, it's it's cool to hear that that that's what you distilled it down that that's what you distilled it down that that's what you distilled it down to. to. to. >> Yeah. And we've got the studies to prove >> Yeah. And we've got the studies to prove >> Yeah. And we've got the studies to prove that, right? You know, I I'll just to that, right? You know, I I'll just to that, right? You know, I I'll just to follow up on that. It's cool that you follow up on that. It's cool that you follow up on that. It's cool that you said that, too, because I think that said that, too, because I think that said that, too, because I think that having diagnostics and advanced medicine having diagnostics and advanced medicine having diagnostics and advanced medicine is great. It's awesome. You know, I is great. It's awesome. You know, I is great. It's awesome. You know, I studied in Texas Medical Center, MD studied in Texas Medical Center, MD studied in Texas Medical Center, MD Henderson, there's all this stuff, but I Henderson, there's all this stuff, but I Henderson, there's all this stuff, but I think what happens is we scoff at So, we think what happens is we scoff at So, we think what happens is we scoff at So, we have a bunch of advanced diagnostics and have a bunch of advanced diagnostics and have a bunch of advanced diagnostics and the treatment may still be very coarse, the treatment may still be very coarse, the treatment may still be very coarse, right? to make just tell the guy like right? to make just tell the guy like right? to make just tell the guy like the in the bottom of the boat like hey the in the bottom of the boat like hey the in the bottom of the boat like hey we need more coal you know or hey less we need more coal you know or hey less we need more coal you know or hey less coal less coal and people look at that coal less coal and people look at that coal less coal and people look at that and they're like it's basic dude like and they're like it's basic dude like and they're like it's basic dude like really that's what's going to change and really that's what's going to change and really that's what's going to change and it goes back to what I'm saying that if it goes back to what I'm saying that if it goes back to what I'm saying that if you did that and yes I'm not saying only you did that and yes I'm not saying only you did that and yes I'm not saying only that there are nuances for a long period that there are nuances for a long period that there are nuances for a long period of time you would win over time of time you would win over time of time you would win over time metabolically chronic illness etc metabolically chronic illness etc metabolically chronic illness etc >> what I find interesting about uh CGMs uh >> what I find interesting about uh CGMs uh >> what I find interesting about uh CGMs uh is that watching someone's glucose in is that watching someone's glucose in is that watching someone's glucose in real time, you can actually uh diagnose real time, you can actually uh diagnose real time, you can actually uh diagnose or at least it points you in a lot of or at least it points you in a lot of or at least it points you in a lot of different directions, not just food. For different directions, not just food. For different directions, not just food. For example, example, example, >> uh how many times have you seen >> uh how many times have you seen >> uh how many times have you seen someone's uh CGM spike in the middle of someone's uh CGM spike in the middle of someone's uh CGM spike in the middle of the night and say, "Ah, you might have the night and say, "Ah, you might have the night and say, "Ah, you might have sleep apnnea." sleep apnnea." sleep apnnea." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Let's look at your sleep and see if >> Let's look at your sleep and see if >> Let's look at your sleep and see if you're snoring or what the deal is. you're snoring or what the deal is. you're snoring or what the deal is. >> It's interesting. It points to a lot of >> It's interesting. It points to a lot of >> It's interesting. It points to a lot of different things because a lot of things different things because a lot of things different things because a lot of things can cause a spike. can cause a spike. can cause a spike. >> Yep. And that's the the uh benefit of >> Yep. And that's the the uh benefit of >> Yep. And that's the the uh benefit of continuous data because before that continuous data because before that continuous data because before that >> how would you know? >> how would you know? >> how would you know? >> Yeah. You wouldn't know of anything >> Yeah. You wouldn't know of anything >> Yeah. You wouldn't know of anything that's going on. And go ahead. that's going on. And go ahead. that's going on. And go ahead. >> How I was going to say how do you use >> How I was going to say how do you use >> How I was going to say how do you use this data then to to coach someone? Is this data then to to coach someone? Is this data then to to coach someone? Is it questions like hey we're noticing it questions like hey we're noticing it questions like hey we're noticing this and that. What's going on? What this and that. What's going on? What this and that. What's going on? What happened at that time? happened at that time? happened at that time? >> Yeah the I mean again the plat the >> Yeah the I mean again the plat the >> Yeah the I mean again the plat the platform that I like to use is let the platform that I like to use is let the platform that I like to use is let the client figure it out themsself with my client figure it out themsself with my client figure it out themsself with my guidance. Right. So it always starts guidance. Right. So it always starts guidance. Right. So it always starts with asking like hey you know one just with asking like hey you know one just with asking like hey you know one just the thought of them putting the CGM on the thought of them putting the CGM on the thought of them putting the CGM on they start taking more data points and they start taking more data points and they start taking more data points and you and check your own health journey you and check your own health journey you and check your own health journey like without the CGM you're maybe not like without the CGM you're maybe not like without the CGM you're maybe not thinking about like oh man I feel bad it thinking about like oh man I feel bad it thinking about like oh man I feel bad it must be you know again the this um you must be you know again the this um you must be you know again the this um you know whatever I ate in the morning it's know whatever I ate in the morning it's know whatever I ate in the morning it's probably a collection of stuff so with probably a collection of stuff so with probably a collection of stuff so with continuous data we can go back and look continuous data we can go back and look continuous data we can go back and look at it the other thing that Neutriense is at it the other thing that Neutriense is at it the other thing that Neutriense is doing right now is leveraging AI doing right now is leveraging AI doing right now is leveraging AI So they have this um Nora, right, that So they have this um Nora, right, that So they have this um Nora, right, that will put this stuff in front of your will put this stuff in front of your will put this stuff in front of your face. So again, we know the best way to face. So again, we know the best way to face. So again, we know the best way to win with a client is touch points, win with a client is touch points, win with a client is touch points, right? You honestly just flood them with right? You honestly just flood them with right? You honestly just flood them with interaction. And so Nora will bring up interaction. And so Nora will bring up interaction. And so Nora will bring up trends trends trends um and bring up data, even data that's um and bring up data, even data that's um and bring up data, even data that's that looks the same across weeks or like that looks the same across weeks or like that looks the same across weeks or like when you're putting in inputs, it'll when you're putting in inputs, it'll when you're putting in inputs, it'll show you outputs, right? So, it bridges show you outputs, right? So, it bridges show you outputs, right? So, it bridges the gap between your meetings with the gap between your meetings with the gap between your meetings with either the physician or the dietitian. either the physician or the dietitian. either the physician or the dietitian. >> Any supplements uh that actually make a >> Any supplements uh that actually make a >> Any supplements uh that actually make a difference with uh what you see on the C difference with uh what you see on the C difference with uh what you see on the C CGM like bourberine. I hear about CGM like bourberine. I hear about CGM like bourberine. I hear about bourberine all the time. bourberine all the time. bourberine all the time. >> Yeah, bourberine is great. Um there's >> Yeah, bourberine is great. Um there's >> Yeah, bourberine is great. Um there's bourberine, there's alpha lipoic acid uh bourberine, there's alpha lipoic acid uh bourberine, there's alpha lipoic acid uh >> and you'll actually see it. You'll be >> and you'll actually see it. You'll be >> and you'll actually see it. You'll be able to measure it. able to measure it. able to measure it. >> Yeah. The difference though is that just >> Yeah. The difference though is that just >> Yeah. The difference though is that just remember that the all in context. So, remember that the all in context. So, remember that the all in context. So, bourberine is not instantaneous, bourberine is not instantaneous, bourberine is not instantaneous, >> right? And that's because also >> right? And that's because also >> right? And that's because also bioavailability. So you need to take it bioavailability. So you need to take it bioavailability. So you need to take it over a long period of time. Um, another over a long period of time. Um, another over a long period of time. Um, another one is like myinositol. That one's one is like myinositol. That one's one is like myinositol. That one's awesome. So it's also used in like PCOS. awesome. So it's also used in like PCOS. awesome. So it's also used in like PCOS. So like, you know, that's a great one, So like, you know, that's a great one, So like, you know, that's a great one, but um or just working on basic but um or just working on basic but um or just working on basic deficiencies, iron, uh, vitamin D, deficiencies, iron, uh, vitamin D, deficiencies, iron, uh, vitamin D, magnesium, zinc. magnesium, zinc. magnesium, zinc. >> Um, but yes, I mean, you know, again, >> Um, but yes, I mean, you know, again, >> Um, but yes, I mean, you know, again, it's complex answers, complex questions, it's complex answers, complex questions, it's complex answers, complex questions, right? You got to take bourberine for a right? You got to take bourberine for a right? You got to take bourberine for a long time. It's are hard to just say, long time. It's are hard to just say, long time. It's are hard to just say, hey, I took bourberine and then I saw hey, I took bourberine and then I saw hey, I took bourberine and then I saw the effect. the effect. the effect. >> Got it. What about the the GMO product >> Got it. What about the the GMO product >> Got it. What about the the GMO product that Ziotic makes in you'd be a great that Ziotic makes in you'd be a great that Ziotic makes in you'd be a great person to ask that. person to ask that. person to ask that. >> Yeah. So, um they made a product that uh >> Yeah. So, um they made a product that uh >> Yeah. So, um they made a product that uh this bacteria is modified to convert this bacteria is modified to convert this bacteria is modified to convert unused sugar into fiber. unused sugar into fiber. unused sugar into fiber. >> Acromancia. >> Acromancia. >> Acromancia. >> Uh good question. I'm not sure. Uh but I >> Uh good question. I'm not sure. Uh but I >> Uh good question. I'm not sure. Uh but I know that they modified the bacteria so know that they modified the bacteria so know that they modified the bacteria so it's their own patented whatever. it's their own patented whatever. it's their own patented whatever. >> Um that theoretically should make a >> Um that theoretically should make a >> Um that theoretically should make a difference, right? Because it goes from difference, right? Because it goes from difference, right? Because it goes from >> thousand%. >> thousand%. >> thousand%. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. And I mean >> Yeah. And I mean >> Yeah. And I mean >> that' be a fun test then. Yeah. Be cool >> that' be a fun test then. Yeah. Be cool >> that' be a fun test then. Yeah. Be cool to give you something and see. to give you something and see. to give you something and see. >> Yeah. Yeah. And and again >> Yeah. Yeah. And and again >> Yeah. Yeah. And and again extend the study over time, right? Like extend the study over time, right? Like extend the study over time, right? Like you got to make it almost like a cut out you got to make it almost like a cut out you got to make it almost like a cut out all the other variables, same meals, all the other variables, same meals, all the other variables, same meals, same timing, same timing, same timing, >> course, >> course, >> course, >> but you know the gut also there neutrics >> but you know the gut also there neutrics >> but you know the gut also there neutrics they they do a gut microbiome test. So they they do a gut microbiome test. So they they do a gut microbiome test. So >> we're understanding that gut is very >> we're understanding that gut is very >> we're understanding that gut is very complex. It's a great way that food complex. It's a great way that food complex. It's a great way that food interacts with the world and when the interacts with the world and when the interacts with the world and when the bacteria are in proper alignment, they bacteria are in proper alignment, they bacteria are in proper alignment, they can help your glucose, right? It's can help your glucose, right? It's can help your glucose, right? It's interesting you brought up myinostol interesting you brought up myinostol interesting you brought up myinostol because that's been promoted forever as because that's been promoted forever as because that's been promoted forever as an anti-anxiety an anti-anxiety an anti-anxiety >> supplement and and I'm wondering now if >> supplement and and I'm wondering now if >> supplement and and I'm wondering now if the anti-anxiety effect is from a the anti-anxiety effect is from a the anti-anxiety effect is from a regulating of uh blood sugar. regulating of uh blood sugar. regulating of uh blood sugar. >> Yeah. Well, and one of the things it >> Yeah. Well, and one of the things it >> Yeah. Well, and one of the things it does is it helps cellular movement. So does is it helps cellular movement. So does is it helps cellular movement. So like storage to the end of the cell to like storage to the end of the cell to like storage to the end of the cell to the nucleus. So DNA basically enhances the nucleus. So DNA basically enhances the nucleus. So DNA basically enhances mitochondria. It's just like NAD mitochondria. It's just like NAD mitochondria. It's just like NAD anything anytime you enhance anything anytime you enhance anything anytime you enhance mitochondria you can have lower mitochondria you can have lower mitochondria you can have lower inflammation, lower anxiety, better inflammation, lower anxiety, better inflammation, lower anxiety, better sleep, etc. sleep, etc. sleep, etc. >> Creatine do you recommend >> Creatine do you recommend >> Creatine do you recommend creatine quite a bit? creatine quite a bit? creatine quite a bit? >> Million billion thousand% should be part >> Million billion thousand% should be part >> Million billion thousand% should be part of your daily stack um they even done of your daily stack um they even done of your daily stack um they even done have done studies that show so data that have done studies that show so data that have done studies that show so data that shows when paired with exercise shows when paired with exercise shows when paired with exercise uh can improve glucose sensitivity. uh can improve glucose sensitivity. uh can improve glucose sensitivity. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So and then of course we know now that >> So and then of course we know now that >> So and then of course we know now that we're stacking it for brain effect too, we're stacking it for brain effect too, we're stacking it for brain effect too, >> right? You just have to do more. I think >> right? You just have to do more. I think >> right? You just have to do more. I think brain absorption is a little less. brain absorption is a little less. brain absorption is a little less. >> So, pump your dose. >> So, pump your dose. >> So, pump your dose. >> Yeah. You uh brought up the alarming >> Yeah. You uh brought up the alarming >> Yeah. You uh brought up the alarming stat with women, the 43%. stat with women, the 43%. stat with women, the 43%. >> Anything else? And you're such a data >> Anything else? And you're such a data >> Anything else? And you're such a data driven guy. You got all this great all driven guy. You got all this great all driven guy. You got all this great all this great analytics that you can go this great analytics that you can go this great analytics that you can go back to. Anything else that was alarming back to. Anything else that was alarming back to. Anything else that was alarming to you like that you've come across that to you like that you've come across that to you like that you've come across that like surprised you or was like, man, like surprised you or was like, man, like surprised you or was like, man, >> in the data? >> in the data? >> in the data? >> Yeah. Yeah. just >> Yeah. Yeah. just >> Yeah. Yeah. just >> um yeah, there's another like another >> um yeah, there's another like another >> um yeah, there's another like another one that comes to mind and it's just one that comes to mind and it's just one that comes to mind and it's just deals with men. It's prostate. deals with men. It's prostate. deals with men. It's prostate. So, as we're aging, a lot of people are So, as we're aging, a lot of people are So, as we're aging, a lot of people are having prostate issues, right? And I I having prostate issues, right? And I I having prostate issues, right? And I I mean, again, even me going up through mean, again, even me going up through mean, again, even me going up through the medical community, it's like just the medical community, it's like just the medical community, it's like just something that old guys had, right? They something that old guys had, right? They something that old guys had, right? They just went to pee five times a night. just went to pee five times a night. just went to pee five times a night. >> And so, you see that. So, now we're also >> And so, you see that. So, now we're also >> And so, you see that. So, now we're also starting to learn that's also a starting to learn that's also a starting to learn that's also a metabolic component. So the data is now metabolic component. So the data is now metabolic component. So the data is now showing that um with insulin resistance showing that um with insulin resistance showing that um with insulin resistance and there may it may be a dose response. and there may it may be a dose response. and there may it may be a dose response. So the worse it is the larger the So the worse it is the larger the So the worse it is the larger the prostate. So it can increase your um prostate. So it can increase your um prostate. So it can increase your um risk of BPH hyper hypertrophy risk of BPH hyper hypertrophy risk of BPH hyper hypertrophy three-fold. three-fold. three-fold. So again if you talk about the impact on So again if you talk about the impact on So again if you talk about the impact on a man's life sleep if I'm having to get a man's life sleep if I'm having to get a man's life sleep if I'm having to get up five get up five or six times to up five get up five or six times to up five get up five or six times to sleep it's going to destroy everything sleep it's going to destroy everything sleep it's going to destroy everything else right else right else right >> effect. Yeah. So, we fix that in the >> effect. Yeah. So, we fix that in the >> effect. Yeah. So, we fix that in the clinic and it's life-changing. It's It's clinic and it's life-changing. It's It's clinic and it's life-changing. It's It's something that people overlook. I mean, something that people overlook. I mean, something that people overlook. I mean, a guy will come in and be like, "I'm a guy will come in and be like, "I'm a guy will come in and be like, "I'm only going to pee once a night." Changes only going to pee once a night." Changes only going to pee once a night." Changes his life. his life. his life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Not to mention improved blood flow and >> Not to mention improved blood flow and >> Not to mention improved blood flow and sexual functions. sexual functions. sexual functions. >> What about um so you hear a lot now a >> What about um so you hear a lot now a >> What about um so you hear a lot now a lot in regards to cancer that um one of lot in regards to cancer that um one of lot in regards to cancer that um one of the driving the driving the driving >> forces behind cancer is metabolic >> forces behind cancer is metabolic >> forces behind cancer is metabolic dysfunction. Um are you are you up to dysfunction. Um are you are you up to dysfunction. Um are you are you up to date with some of this research? I know date with some of this research? I know date with some of this research? I know cancer is very complex, but cancer is very complex, but cancer is very complex, but >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, and that brings up >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, and that brings up >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, and that brings up a good point. So when you talk about a good point. So when you talk about a good point. So when you talk about metabolic dysfunction, everyone metabolic dysfunction, everyone metabolic dysfunction, everyone understands glucose, but the other flip understands glucose, but the other flip understands glucose, but the other flip of that coin is fat deposition, right? of that coin is fat deposition, right? of that coin is fat deposition, right? So when you're when this system is So when you're when this system is So when you're when this system is impaired, you have a tendency to add fat impaired, you have a tendency to add fat impaired, you have a tendency to add fat and not just fat, it's bad fat, ectopic and not just fat, it's bad fat, ectopic and not just fat, it's bad fat, ectopic fat, visceral fat. That's the fat that fat, visceral fat. That's the fat that fat, visceral fat. That's the fat that kills us. And so if you look at the risk kills us. And so if you look at the risk kills us. And so if you look at the risk of someone having high visceral fat, it of someone having high visceral fat, it of someone having high visceral fat, it increases cancer risk by 44%. And I'm increases cancer risk by 44%. And I'm increases cancer risk by 44%. And I'm talking about talking about talking about >> colon cancer, pancreas cancer, like the >> colon cancer, pancreas cancer, like the >> colon cancer, pancreas cancer, like the stuff that can kill you, right? stuff that can kill you, right? stuff that can kill you, right? >> Um, and then the other really important >> Um, and then the other really important >> Um, and then the other really important statistic of just having visceral fat is statistic of just having visceral fat is statistic of just having visceral fat is increases your mortality twofold, right? increases your mortality twofold, right? increases your mortality twofold, right? So, so we know there's a con connection So, so we know there's a con connection So, so we know there's a con connection between metabolic resistance and cancer. between metabolic resistance and cancer. between metabolic resistance and cancer. >> And yes, glucose has an effect, but I >> And yes, glucose has an effect, but I >> And yes, glucose has an effect, but I just want to point out that abnormal fat just want to point out that abnormal fat just want to point out that abnormal fat deposition, which is killing people, deposition, which is killing people, deposition, which is killing people, right? It's a big big makes you big risk right? It's a big big makes you big risk right? It's a big big makes you big risk factor. factor. factor. >> Uh when you look at um just studies and >> Uh when you look at um just studies and >> Uh when you look at um just studies and surveys on people that lose weight and surveys on people that lose weight and surveys on people that lose weight and the fail rate is so high, right? Uh the fail rate is so high, right? Uh the fail rate is so high, right? Uh something like 85% or 90% gain the something like 85% or 90% gain the something like 85% or 90% gain the weight back type of deal. Do you see weight back type of deal. Do you see weight back type of deal. Do you see greater success rates when people lose greater success rates when people lose greater success rates when people lose weight through using a CGM and a coach weight through using a CGM and a coach weight through using a CGM and a coach versus doing it on their own? Uh what versus doing it on their own? Uh what versus doing it on their own? Uh what does that look like in comparison? does that look like in comparison? does that look like in comparison? >> Yeah. Um I wish I had some cool >> Yeah. Um I wish I had some cool >> Yeah. Um I wish I had some cool statistics on that. I can just tell you statistics on that. I can just tell you statistics on that. I can just tell you in reality and you guys are in the same in reality and you guys are in the same in reality and you guys are in the same space, right? space, right? space, right? >> And you know what I can point out is >> And you know what I can point out is >> And you know what I can point out is those the RCTs are those really really those the RCTs are those really really those the RCTs are those really really large trials as I told you of behavioral large trials as I told you of behavioral large trials as I told you of behavioral modification. modification. modification. >> What they were given was coaching. So >> What they were given was coaching. So >> What they were given was coaching. So they had behavioral groups. They were they had behavioral groups. They were they had behavioral groups. They were taught what macros are or they were taught what macros are or they were taught what macros are or they were taught and then they had followup and taught and then they had followup and taught and then they had followup and though and even the the effects of though and even the the effects of though and even the the effects of positive, you know, lowered depression, positive, you know, lowered depression, positive, you know, lowered depression, lowered anxiety and lowered anxiety and lowered anxiety and >> and how they thought they had a lower >> and how they thought they had a lower >> and how they thought they had a lower perceived stress of sticking to a plan. perceived stress of sticking to a plan. perceived stress of sticking to a plan. >> So that take-home message is like, cool, >> So that take-home message is like, cool, >> So that take-home message is like, cool, you can get a CGM. Cool. You know, you you can get a CGM. Cool. You know, you you can get a CGM. Cool. You know, you have these companies where you can just have these companies where you can just have these companies where you can just go like, hey, I can order my labs. go like, hey, I can order my labs. go like, hey, I can order my labs. >> It needs context. >> It needs context. >> It needs context. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It needs followup. And even like you >> It needs followup. And even like you >> It needs followup. And even like you know as a physician like I can't do do know as a physician like I can't do do know as a physician like I can't do do it all you know so a whole team and it all you know so a whole team and it all you know so a whole team and that's how we work in my clinic as well. that's how we work in my clinic as well. that's how we work in my clinic as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. No I would have guessed that >> Yeah. Yeah. No I would have guessed that >> Yeah. Yeah. No I would have guessed that for sure just from from my experience. I for sure just from from my experience. I for sure just from from my experience. I think uh behavior change is hard think uh behavior change is hard think uh behavior change is hard >> and it takes some time and you need a >> and it takes some time and you need a >> and it takes some time and you need a coach there and then you need some grace coach there and then you need some grace coach there and then you need some grace and you're going to screw up and then and you're going to screw up and then and you're going to screw up and then >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But over time uh far better success >> But over time uh far better success >> But over time uh far better success rate. rate. rate. >> Tell me a little bit more about the the >> Tell me a little bit more about the the >> Tell me a little bit more about the the AI that Neutriense is is using. I AI that Neutriense is is using. I AI that Neutriense is is using. I haven't I haven't played with that in a haven't I haven't played with that in a haven't I haven't played with that in a while. And so like is it is it giving me while. And so like is it is it giving me while. And so like is it is it giving me like it starts to pick up on my patterns like it starts to pick up on my patterns like it starts to pick up on my patterns of like Saturdays I tend to do these Oh of like Saturdays I tend to do these Oh of like Saturdays I tend to do these Oh wow. And does it give you like a wow. And does it give you like a wow. And does it give you like a notification or something or positive notification or something or positive notification or something or positive and negative kind of trends? and negative kind of trends? and negative kind of trends? >> Yes. It puts it in your face, right? >> Yes. It puts it in your face, right? >> Yes. It puts it in your face, right? That's kind of cool. And That's kind of cool. And That's kind of cool. And >> the other thing too is the more inputs, >> the other thing too is the more inputs, >> the other thing too is the more inputs, more outputs, right? more outputs, right? more outputs, right? >> So if you're saying, "Hey, I went to bed >> So if you're saying, "Hey, I went to bed >> So if you're saying, "Hey, I went to bed at this time. Hey, my day was stressful. at this time. Hey, my day was stressful. at this time. Hey, my day was stressful. Hey, I worked out. It's going to tell Hey, I worked out. It's going to tell Hey, I worked out. It's going to tell you last week you did this and this is you last week you did this and this is you last week you did this and this is what we saw. And so think about that what we saw. And so think about that what we saw. And so think about that when when when >> I can't sit there and harass you and >> I can't sit there and harass you and >> I can't sit there and harass you and it's it's, you know, harassing you to it's it's, you know, harassing you to it's it's, you know, harassing you to like think. like think. like think. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, what's so cool about that is one >> Well, what's so cool about that is one >> Well, what's so cool about that is one of the things that we I talk about a lot of the things that we I talk about a lot of the things that we I talk about a lot on the show is that on the show is that on the show is that >> a lot of what you do with good coaching >> a lot of what you do with good coaching >> a lot of what you do with good coaching is really just helping clients connect is really just helping clients connect is really just helping clients connect the dots. the dots. the dots. >> Totally. you know, h half the time, uh, >> Totally. you know, h half the time, uh, >> Totally. you know, h half the time, uh, I mean, and we're all probably all in I mean, and we're all probably all in I mean, and we're all probably all in this room guilty of this at one point in this room guilty of this at one point in this room guilty of this at one point in our lives, you know, eating foods that our lives, you know, eating foods that our lives, you know, eating foods that totally didn't agree with us and just totally didn't agree with us and just totally didn't agree with us and just thought that your stool was normal. thought that your stool was normal. thought that your stool was normal. That's just you have a bad day. It was That's just you have a bad day. It was That's just you have a bad day. It was like like not going like, no, that's like like not going like, no, that's like like not going like, no, that's actually because you ate this thing, actually because you ate this thing, actually because you ate this thing, >> you felt that way. Also, your sleep was >> you felt that way. Also, your sleep was >> you felt that way. Also, your sleep was it's like it's just there we're so it's it's like it's just there we're so it's it's like it's just there we're so it's amazing to me how disconnected amazing to me how disconnected amazing to me how disconnected >> we are to how food affects us and how >> we are to how food affects us and how >> we are to how food affects us and how and just so a lot of it's connected to and just so a lot of it's connected to and just so a lot of it's connected to us. So now having an AI tool that's us. So now having an AI tool that's us. So now having an AI tool that's monitoring you that's kind of giving you monitoring you that's kind of giving you monitoring you that's kind of giving you that feedback loop is incredible cuz that feedback loop is incredible cuz that feedback loop is incredible cuz it's like an ongoing coach who's just it's like an ongoing coach who's just it's like an ongoing coach who's just kind of reminding you like cuz then they kind of reminding you like cuz then they kind of reminding you like cuz then they start to connect it. I'm sure they go start to connect it. I'm sure they go start to connect it. I'm sure they go like oh [ __ ] that's the third time that like oh [ __ ] that's the third time that like oh [ __ ] that's the third time that I didn't get to bed at this time and I I didn't get to bed at this time and I I didn't get to bed at this time and I also know so one of my favorite things also know so one of my favorite things also know so one of my favorite things to talk about with uh the the glucose to talk about with uh the the glucose to talk about with uh the the glucose monitors that I noticed and it was that monitors that I noticed and it was that monitors that I noticed and it was that uh poor nights of sleep the cravings on uh poor nights of sleep the cravings on uh poor nights of sleep the cravings on the next day. the next day. the next day. >> Yeah. What? Like that was mind-blowing >> Yeah. What? Like that was mind-blowing >> Yeah. What? Like that was mind-blowing to me. And literally just becoming aware to me. And literally just becoming aware to me. And literally just becoming aware of that made helped me combat it in the of that made helped me combat it in the of that made helped me combat it in the daytime. So it was just like if I knew I daytime. So it was just like if I knew I daytime. So it was just like if I knew I got up and it was like damn that was a got up and it was like damn that was a got up and it was like damn that was a poor night I slept. I know what I was in poor night I slept. I know what I was in poor night I slept. I know what I was in for that day. for that day. for that day. >> And because I was aware of that, it made >> And because I was aware of that, it made >> And because I was aware of that, it made me it made it easier for me to resist me it made it easier for me to resist me it made it easier for me to resist that. It was like why all of a sudden that. It was like why all of a sudden that. It was like why all of a sudden I'm craving this crappy food. I' I've I'm craving this crappy food. I' I've I'm craving this crappy food. I' I've been on my diet. It's like oh that's been on my diet. It's like oh that's been on my diet. It's like oh that's right. I got that bad night of sleep. I right. I got that bad night of sleep. I right. I got that bad night of sleep. I think things like that, like people just think things like that, like people just think things like that, like people just don't realize how how much of what's don't realize how how much of what's don't realize how how much of what's going on with their sleep and their going on with their sleep and their going on with their sleep and their habits are connected to all these habits are connected to all these habits are connected to all these cravings and other in their moods and cravings and other in their moods and cravings and other in their moods and all this stuff. And so having an AI tool all this stuff. And so having an AI tool all this stuff. And so having an AI tool that is also giving you that feedback, that is also giving you that feedback, that is also giving you that feedback, that's that's rad. that's that's rad. that's that's rad. >> Yeah, it's huge. It's it's just like I >> Yeah, it's huge. It's it's just like I >> Yeah, it's huge. It's it's just like I talked about, you know, when when talked about, you know, when when talked about, you know, when when something happens, you correlate it with something happens, you correlate it with something happens, you correlate it with something that day or maybe the day something that day or maybe the day something that day or maybe the day before. What if it you know, complex before. What if it you know, complex before. What if it you know, complex questions, complex what if it was seven questions, complex what if it was seven questions, complex what if it was seven days before? What if it was 15 days days before? What if it was 15 days days before? What if it was 15 days before? So aggregating that data really before? So aggregating that data really before? So aggregating that data really expands like whoa it's very expands like whoa it's very expands like whoa it's very thoughtprovoking right thoughtprovoking right thoughtprovoking right >> and even if you know so hey >> and even if you know so hey >> and even if you know so hey >> I had a bad night of sleep I know when I >> I had a bad night of sleep I know when I >> I had a bad night of sleep I know when I have bad a night of sleep I have have bad a night of sleep I have have bad a night of sleep I have cravings stick to your routine right cravings stick to your routine right cravings stick to your routine right you're like I am not going to even go you're like I am not going to even go you're like I am not going to even go over there where the ice cream is or over there where the ice cream is or over there where the ice cream is or whatever it is is your right whatever it is is your right whatever it is is your right >> yep >> yep >> yep >> how how well or how quickly is uh >> how how well or how quickly is uh >> how how well or how quickly is uh neutriense growing because they're one neutriense growing because they're one neutriense growing because they're one of the best at combining kind of of the best at combining kind of of the best at combining kind of coaching with monitoring is it a growing coaching with monitoring is it a growing coaching with monitoring is it a growing field in general Um, and how's Neutri field in general Um, and how's Neutri field in general Um, and how's Neutri Sense doing with it? Sense doing with it? Sense doing with it? >> Yeah, Neutri Sense is is crushing it. I >> Yeah, Neutri Sense is is crushing it. I >> Yeah, Neutri Sense is is crushing it. I mean, you know, I don't I don't know of mean, you know, I don't I don't know of mean, you know, I don't I don't know of another company that utilizes coaching. another company that utilizes coaching. another company that utilizes coaching. And so, yeah, there are other CGM And so, yeah, there are other CGM And so, yeah, there are other CGM companies. companies. companies. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But the coaching is where it's at or the >> But the coaching is where it's at or the >> But the coaching is where it's at or the one-on-one with dietitians, with one-on-one with dietitians, with one-on-one with dietitians, with experts. experts. experts. >> And so, people want that, right? I mean, >> And so, people want that, right? I mean, >> And so, people want that, right? I mean, I have a bunch of clients that come to I have a bunch of clients that come to I have a bunch of clients that come to me that are fallout from, you know, hey, me that are fallout from, you know, hey, me that are fallout from, you know, hey, I got my labs, no one helped me, right? I got my labs, no one helped me, right? I got my labs, no one helped me, right? Putting it in context. So, Neutri Sense Putting it in context. So, Neutri Sense Putting it in context. So, Neutri Sense is is blowing up in that sense. Um, and is is blowing up in that sense. Um, and is is blowing up in that sense. Um, and so, yeah, it's really exciting. And then so, yeah, it's really exciting. And then so, yeah, it's really exciting. And then the other thing too is when, as I said, the other thing too is when, as I said, the other thing too is when, as I said, when something gains popularity, we get when something gains popularity, we get when something gains popularity, we get to study it. So, hopefully the the to study it. So, hopefully the the to study it. So, hopefully the the future forward is continuing to look at future forward is continuing to look at future forward is continuing to look at this data and then trying to get this data and then trying to get this data and then trying to get realworld stuff. for example, like realworld stuff. for example, like realworld stuff. for example, like they're looking at CGM and changes in they're looking at CGM and changes in they're looking at CGM and changes in arterial flow, which would lend itself arterial flow, which would lend itself arterial flow, which would lend itself to like, hey, what what's going to set to like, hey, what what's going to set to like, hey, what what's going to set you up for death? Cardiovascular you up for death? Cardiovascular you up for death? Cardiovascular disease, right? Right now, I can't say disease, right? Right now, I can't say disease, right? Right now, I can't say it's a diagnostic tool, but the more it's a diagnostic tool, but the more it's a diagnostic tool, but the more data, the more we can see. The whole data, the more we can see. The whole data, the more we can see. The whole point of the talk is how do I not end up point of the talk is how do I not end up point of the talk is how do I not end up over there? One, how do I feel better? over there? One, how do I feel better? over there? One, how do I feel better? And two, how do I not end up sick or And two, how do I not end up sick or And two, how do I not end up sick or dead? dead? dead? >> What do you do for Neutri Sense exactly >> What do you do for Neutri Sense exactly >> What do you do for Neutri Sense exactly or with Neutri Sense? Yeah. So, I am so or with Neutri Sense? Yeah. So, I am so or with Neutri Sense? Yeah. So, I am so currently I'm the medical director. Um, currently I'm the medical director. Um, currently I'm the medical director. Um, >> and you know, these CGMs are being >> and you know, these CGMs are being >> and you know, these CGMs are being offered commercially, but if you were to offered commercially, but if you were to offered commercially, but if you were to get a CGM back in the day, it would come get a CGM back in the day, it would come get a CGM back in the day, it would come through me. You might see my name on it. through me. You might see my name on it. through me. You might see my name on it. Yeah. I got a lot of phone calls in that Yeah. I got a lot of phone calls in that Yeah. I got a lot of phone calls in that day. Hey, Dr. Langley, I need another day. Hey, Dr. Langley, I need another day. Hey, Dr. Langley, I need another CGM. I was like, oh, talk to Neutriense. CGM. I was like, oh, talk to Neutriense. CGM. I was like, oh, talk to Neutriense. >> Um, but yeah, no, I mean, I work closely >> Um, but yeah, no, I mean, I work closely >> Um, but yeah, no, I mean, I work closely with the dietitians and the team at with the dietitians and the team at with the dietitians and the team at Neutriense. You know, my clinic handles Neutriense. You know, my clinic handles Neutriense. You know, my clinic handles stuff, complicated situations in a a stuff, complicated situations in a a stuff, complicated situations in a a much a larger conglomerate of stuff, but much a larger conglomerate of stuff, but much a larger conglomerate of stuff, but we work hand in hand. Our clinic, my we work hand in hand. Our clinic, my we work hand in hand. Our clinic, my clinic is very much like talking to clinic is very much like talking to clinic is very much like talking to people at Neutri Sense. We use the people at Neutri Sense. We use the people at Neutri Sense. We use the dietitians at Neutri Sense, etc. dietitians at Neutri Sense, etc. dietitians at Neutri Sense, etc. >> How did that how did that I mean, we you >> How did that how did that I mean, we you >> How did that how did that I mean, we you talked about how um that relationship talked about how um that relationship talked about how um that relationship started and you almost were like a started and you almost were like a started and you almost were like a customer first. Yeah. customer first. Yeah. customer first. Yeah. >> How did that develop into the >> How did that develop into the >> How did that develop into the relationship you have now with him? relationship you have now with him? relationship you have now with him? >> Yeah. Well, like I said, um, and Dan's >> Yeah. Well, like I said, um, and Dan's >> Yeah. Well, like I said, um, and Dan's probably going to kill me for telling probably going to kill me for telling probably going to kill me for telling this story, but you know, Dan and I this story, but you know, Dan and I this story, but you know, Dan and I built a relationship cuz I was just built a relationship cuz I was just built a relationship cuz I was just interested. I wanted to know everything. interested. I wanted to know everything. interested. I wanted to know everything. Hey, let me talk to your dietitians. Hey, let me talk to your dietitians. Hey, let me talk to your dietitians. And at the time, I was doing stuff And at the time, I was doing stuff And at the time, I was doing stuff across country, right? So, I had all of across country, right? So, I had all of across country, right? So, I had all of these medical licenses. And um, once we these medical licenses. And um, once we these medical licenses. And um, once we built a relationship, he was like, "Hey, built a relationship, he was like, "Hey, built a relationship, he was like, "Hey, uh, because we we were having trouble uh, because we we were having trouble uh, because we we were having trouble getting the CGMs out." He's like, "Hey, getting the CGMs out." He's like, "Hey, getting the CGMs out." He's like, "Hey, I need a doctor who's willing, who's I need a doctor who's willing, who's I need a doctor who's willing, who's excited, who talks really fast like me excited, who talks really fast like me excited, who talks really fast like me and has some medical licenses." And I and has some medical licenses." And I and has some medical licenses." And I was like, "Cool. I need a CEO that talks was like, "Cool. I need a CEO that talks was like, "Cool. I need a CEO that talks faster than me. Like, let's go." So, faster than me. Like, let's go." So, faster than me. Like, let's go." So, that's really it. Like, that really that's really it. Like, that really that's really it. Like, that really started the whole relationship. And started the whole relationship. And started the whole relationship. And >> a little bit of other truth here. I was >> a little bit of other truth here. I was >> a little bit of other truth here. I was more excited. I was like, "Hey, teach more excited. I was like, "Hey, teach more excited. I was like, "Hey, teach me. Let me use this stuff." And, you me. Let me use this stuff." And, you me. Let me use this stuff." And, you know, I'll be your medical director. No know, I'll be your medical director. No know, I'll be your medical director. No payment, nothing like that. That's so payment, nothing like that. That's so payment, nothing like that. That's so crazy. crazy. crazy. >> So that helped. But it did supercharge >> So that helped. But it did supercharge >> So that helped. But it did supercharge me into like building my own own clinic me into like building my own own clinic me into like building my own own clinic and learning more. and learning more. and learning more. >> Now, have you guys become friends or >> Now, have you guys become friends or >> Now, have you guys become friends or just business? I mean, what's it? Have just business? I mean, what's it? Have just business? I mean, what's it? Have you guys I mean, imagine you're you're you guys I mean, imagine you're you're you guys I mean, imagine you're you're you're bugging him that much. He brought you're bugging him that much. He brought you're bugging him that much. He brought you in. You guys probably built somewhat you in. You guys probably built somewhat you in. You guys probably built somewhat of a relationship even. of a relationship even. of a relationship even. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're bros. Um, we're bros. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're bros. Um, we're bros. >> Yeah. Yeah, we're bros. Um, we're bros. He's always trying to get me to hang out He's always trying to get me to hang out He's always trying to get me to hang out and and I was telling him like, "Dude, I and and I was telling him like, "Dude, I and and I was telling him like, "Dude, I have a lot to do, but yes. Yes, we'll go have a lot to do, but yes. Yes, we'll go have a lot to do, but yes. Yes, we'll go to Burning Man at some point. I'm not having a CGM on when we do that I'm not having a CGM on when we do that though. Okay. though. Okay. though. Okay. >> How are peptides uh um showing up on >> How are peptides uh um showing up on >> How are peptides uh um showing up on CGMs? Are you noticing any changes? I'm CGMs? Are you noticing any changes? I'm CGMs? Are you noticing any changes? I'm assuming the growth hormone releasing assuming the growth hormone releasing assuming the growth hormone releasing ones you'll probably see an impact. And ones you'll probably see an impact. And ones you'll probably see an impact. And are you seeing anything with like the are you seeing anything with like the are you seeing anything with like the like the BPC's and the like the BPC's and the like the BPC's and the >> Yeah, that's a good question. Um haven't >> Yeah, that's a good question. Um haven't >> Yeah, that's a good question. Um haven't specifically studied it, but you know, specifically studied it, but you know, specifically studied it, but you know, again, even with peptides, like in my again, even with peptides, like in my again, even with peptides, like in my opinion, very safe molecules. the longer opinion, very safe molecules. the longer opinion, very safe molecules. the longer you take them, the longer you have to you take them, the longer you have to you take them, the longer you have to understand what they do. So some of understand what they do. So some of understand what they do. So some of those growth hormone secrets, if you those growth hormone secrets, if you those growth hormone secrets, if you look at some of the studies, I think look at some of the studies, I think look at some of the studies, I think it's closer like a week 11 12 if you're it's closer like a week 11 12 if you're it's closer like a week 11 12 if you're on it, you may have some increase in on it, you may have some increase in on it, you may have some increase in IGF-1, which we know is going to change IGF-1, which we know is going to change IGF-1, which we know is going to change glucose a little bit. glucose a little bit. glucose a little bit. >> So that's a good question. I haven't >> So that's a good question. I haven't >> So that's a good question. I haven't really looked at that yet, but honestly, really looked at that yet, but honestly, really looked at that yet, but honestly, another tool in the toolbox to show another tool in the toolbox to show another tool in the toolbox to show people. people. people. >> What about um hormone therapy? How is >> What about um hormone therapy? How is >> What about um hormone therapy? How is that improve? How is that changing or that improve? How is that changing or that improve? How is that changing or improving? So a guy comes in low improving? So a guy comes in low improving? So a guy comes in low testosterone, doesn't get doesn't rise testosterone, doesn't get doesn't rise testosterone, doesn't get doesn't rise from improving behaviors, you put them from improving behaviors, you put them from improving behaviors, you put them on testosterone, what do you see on testosterone, what do you see on testosterone, what do you see typically typically typically >> in their overall health? >> in their overall health? >> in their overall health? >> No, in their CGMs. Do we notice anything >> No, in their CGMs. Do we notice anything >> No, in their CGMs. Do we notice anything with with improvements downstream? For with with improvements downstream? For with with improvements downstream? For sure, because then they build muscle and sure, because then they build muscle and sure, because then they build muscle and then you see it. then you see it. then you see it. >> Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. So, so again to me >> Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. So, so again to me >> Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. So, so again to me like having normal testosterone lowers like having normal testosterone lowers like having normal testosterone lowers cardiovascular risk. Why? We know it's cardiovascular risk. Why? We know it's cardiovascular risk. Why? We know it's going to burn visceral fat and that's going to burn visceral fat and that's going to burn visceral fat and that's the major killer. the major killer. the major killer. >> Two, it's going to help you add muscle. >> Two, it's going to help you add muscle. >> Two, it's going to help you add muscle. There's I've seen one study where it There's I've seen one study where it There's I've seen one study where it says it may may almost add up. Even says it may may almost add up. Even says it may may almost add up. Even without working out, you may have a without working out, you may have a without working out, you may have a change like seven to eight% really change like seven to eight% really change like seven to eight% really massive. That's wild. That's that's massive. That's wild. That's that's massive. That's wild. That's that's insane, right? I told you every 4% insane, right? I told you every 4% insane, right? I told you every 4% lowers your hemoglobin A1C like another lowers your hemoglobin A1C like another lowers your hemoglobin A1C like another 4%. So 4%. So 4%. So >> So you do see a downstream effect, >> So you do see a downstream effect, >> So you do see a downstream effect, right? Um and then again having right? Um and then again having right? Um and then again having metabolic resistance is going to metabolic resistance is going to metabolic resistance is going to increase your your uh risk of hypogonaz increase your your uh risk of hypogonaz increase your your uh risk of hypogonaz gonadism up to 9 to 13fold which is like gonadism up to 9 to 13fold which is like gonadism up to 9 to 13fold which is like ridiculous right so it's an epidemic and ridiculous right so it's an epidemic and ridiculous right so it's an epidemic and there are certain things you would want there are certain things you would want there are certain things you would want better sleep better mood um and better better sleep better mood um and better better sleep better mood um and better body composition fix your testosterone body composition fix your testosterone body composition fix your testosterone >> now I know you haven't you haven't had >> now I know you haven't you haven't had >> now I know you haven't you haven't had your clinic for decades but have you your clinic for decades but have you your clinic for decades but have you noticed even in the short time you have noticed even in the short time you have noticed even in the short time you have uh the rise in like young men with like uh the rise in like young men with like uh the rise in like young men with like >> epidemic. >> epidemic. >> epidemic. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Epidemic. And in fact, I forgot to say >> Epidemic. And in fact, I forgot to say >> Epidemic. And in fact, I forgot to say this, but so across the general this, but so across the general this, but so across the general population, let's say it's 24%. population, let's say it's 24%. population, let's say it's 24%. But a new study came out last year where But a new study came out last year where But a new study came out last year where they looked at 18 to 34 year olds and they looked at 18 to 34 year olds and they looked at 18 to 34 year olds and they gestured and this was a they gestured and this was a they gestured and this was a questionnaire questionnaire questionnaire 34% which is insane. And also I 34% which is insane. And also I 34% which is insane. And also I personally believe that it's under personally believe that it's under personally believe that it's under reportported, right? Because reportported, right? Because reportported, right? Because >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> you know, you you're not you don't >> you know, you you're not you don't >> you know, you you're not you don't really want to tell someone at that age really want to tell someone at that age really want to tell someone at that age maybe you have problems. maybe you have problems. maybe you have problems. >> I know it's under reportported because >> I know it's under reportported because >> I know it's under reportported because we get DMs and messages from young men we get DMs and messages from young men we get DMs and messages from young men all the time that haven't even gone and all the time that haven't even gone and all the time that haven't even gone and seen their doctor and talked about it. seen their doctor and talked about it. seen their doctor and talked about it. And so there's not not everybody's And so there's not not everybody's And so there's not not everybody's reporting it. reporting it. reporting it. >> Where it gets tricky is and you you know >> Where it gets tricky is and you you know >> Where it gets tricky is and you you know as a good clinician understands it's not as a good clinician understands it's not as a good clinician understands it's not an absolute number, right? You know, you an absolute number, right? You know, you an absolute number, right? You know, you may be low and not having symptoms. low may be low and not having symptoms. low may be low and not having symptoms. low or you may be normal and having or you may be normal and having or you may be normal and having symptoms, right? You have to look at the symptoms, right? You have to look at the symptoms, right? You have to look at the number bait and and talk to the client. number bait and and talk to the client. number bait and and talk to the client. >> Yeah. I would I would imagine that's due >> Yeah. I would I would imagine that's due >> Yeah. I would I would imagine that's due to poor health and probably pornography to poor health and probably pornography to poor health and probably pornography which is real common now in young men. which is real common now in young men. which is real common now in young men. >> A thousand%. >> A thousand%. >> A thousand%. >> Yeah. It's probably a good combination >> Yeah. It's probably a good combination >> Yeah. It's probably a good combination of the two cuz I mean historically you of the two cuz I mean historically you of the two cuz I mean historically you would not see any sexual dysfunction in would not see any sexual dysfunction in would not see any sexual dysfunction in that age group. That's like when you that age group. That's like when you that age group. That's like when you don't have any. don't have any. don't have any. >> Yeah. And that's the other thing to >> Yeah. And that's the other thing to >> Yeah. And that's the other thing to point out. It's not all like I said it's point out. It's not all like I said it's point out. It's not all like I said it's not all metabolic health. If a guy comes not all metabolic health. If a guy comes not all metabolic health. If a guy comes in and says, "Hey, I'm looking at porn in and says, "Hey, I'm looking at porn in and says, "Hey, I'm looking at porn and I'm masturbating like 37 times a I'm and I'm masturbating like 37 times a I'm and I'm masturbating like 37 times a I'm going to be like, "Hey, let's unpack going to be like, "Hey, let's unpack going to be like, "Hey, let's unpack that a little bit. That's probably not that a little bit. That's probably not that a little bit. That's probably not healthy." healthy." healthy." >> Too much. >> Too much. >> Too much. >> Jeez. >> Jeez. >> Jeez. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Justin 37 numbers, right? >> Justin 37 numbers, right? >> Justin 37 numbers, right? >> You're all getting sealis after the >> You're all getting sealis after the >> You're all getting sealis after the show. show. show. >> Well, good deal. >> Well, good deal. >> Well, good deal. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Well, this has been great, man. Thanks >> Well, this has been great, man. Thanks >> Well, this has been great, man. Thanks for coming on. I appreciate you coming. for coming on. I appreciate you coming. for coming on. I appreciate you coming. >> Thanks for having me. >> Thanks for having me. >> Thanks for having me. >> Kind of breaking this down. I think uh >> Kind of breaking this down. I think uh >> Kind of breaking this down. I think uh the future of the future of the future of uh I think far more people now are uh I think far more people now are uh I think far more people now are becoming aware of the value of coaching. becoming aware of the value of coaching. becoming aware of the value of coaching. I think that uh GLP1s or GLPs I think that uh GLP1s or GLPs I think that uh GLP1s or GLPs have increased the awareness around it have increased the awareness around it have increased the awareness around it because yeah, you lose weight but you because yeah, you lose weight but you because yeah, you lose weight but you also lose muscle. So now you know your also lose muscle. So now you know your also lose muscle. So now you know your typical doctor saying you might need to typical doctor saying you might need to typical doctor saying you might need to strength train. Um and so I think that strength train. Um and so I think that strength train. Um and so I think that this is all good. I think we're moving this is all good. I think we're moving this is all good. I think we're moving in a better direction in a better direction in a better direction um than we have in a long time. And you um than we have in a long time. And you um than we have in a long time. And you add a a you know a glucose monitor to add a a you know a glucose monitor to add a a you know a glucose monitor to that and you've got this wonder like that and you've got this wonder like that and you've got this wonder like we've never had tools like this like as we've never had tools like this like as we've never had tools like this like as a trainer a trainer a trainer >> it was just me and my client but if I >> it was just me and my client but if I >> it was just me and my client but if I had a you know glucose uh monitor and if had a you know glucose uh monitor and if had a you know glucose uh monitor and if I had a GLP1 working with some of my I had a GLP1 working with some of my I had a GLP1 working with some of my clients that stroke I think my success clients that stroke I think my success clients that stroke I think my success rate would have doubled for sure. rate would have doubled for sure. rate would have doubled for sure. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And we're going to see that >> Yeah. And we're going to see that >> Yeah. And we're going to see that >> for sure. >> for sure. >> for sure. >> We're going to see that. This is the >> We're going to see that. This is the >> We're going to see that. This is the future. future. future. >> Very close. I would just say, you know, >> Very close. I would just say, you know, >> Very close. I would just say, you know, if you're going to set up a clinic, if you're going to set up a clinic, if you're going to set up a clinic, you're going to have a program, you got you're going to have a program, you got you're going to have a program, you got to have good coaching. I don't care if to have good coaching. I don't care if to have good coaching. I don't care if you're a doctor, whatever you are. you're a doctor, whatever you are. you're a doctor, whatever you are. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. >> Agreed. >> You got to spend time with these people. >> You got to spend time with these people. >> You got to spend time with these people. >> Thanks for coming on, man. >> Thanks for coming on, man. >> Thanks for coming on, man. >> Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. >> Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. >> Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. Walking. If you did, check this one out. Walking. If you did, check this one out. Walking. It's one of the best things you could do It's one of the best things you could do It's one of the best things you could do for your health, bar none. But there's a for your health, bar none. But there's a for your health, bar none. But there's a better way to approach it. Yes, you can better way to approach it. Yes, you can better way to approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but if you follow the right just walk, but if you follow the right just walk, but if you follow the right protocol, effective. Let's talk about protocol, effective. Let's talk about protocol, effective. Let's talk about >> walking. I can't wait to hear your >> walking. I can't wait to hear your >> walking. I can't wait to hear your walking protocol. walking protocol. walking protocol. >> Well, there is well, there is a >> Well, there is well, there is a >> Well, there is well, there is a protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the first thing, right? Because just first first thing, right? Because just first first thing, right? Because just first off, uh let me start with this. One of off, uh let me start with this. One of off, uh let me start with this. One of the reasons why walking um is such a the reasons why walking um is such a the reasons why walking um is such a great form of just activity is because great form of just activity is because great form of just activity is because it's low risk of injury. Now some