The Stress Expert: The Reason You Wake Up Tired Every Morning | David Ko, CEO of Calm

Key Takeaway

Start using a daily “battery check” instead of waiting for burnout. Rate your mental and physical energy from 0–100, then match your response to the number: at 50–75, schedule a recharge; at 25–50, take a real break; at 0–25, pause and identify what needs support. Today, choose one reliable charger—sleep, a walk, breathwork, exercise, nourishing food, or time with people you love—and use it before your battery is depleted.

Episode Overview

Jay Shetty speaks with David Ko, CEO of Calm and author of Recharge, about stress, burnout, sleep, mindfulness, and building healthier ways to restore energy. Ko presents the “battery” as an accessible language for mental health, explains how small restorative practices improve decision-making and productivity, and argues that leaders create stronger cultures when they make room for vulnerability and genuine connection.

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If you are 50 to 75 If you are on the Maybe in a place like this are where you to think that It is necessary that you How to recharge want to do . If you are 25 to 50 If you are on to take a break The time has come. you need to take a walk may be needed Is. call you need to keep Might be possible. Zoom call to you to a long queue of to stop may be needed It is, isn't it? and if You can rate yourself from 0 to 25.

But if you find This is for you one to say Real The indicator is, "Hey, Maybe something is right is not, and I really A strict step in Lifting and finding out to apply It is necessary that how do I Let me recharge. " and recharge many more different methods It can happen from. And so, I often about I have talked in that when I Access to the zone I go, then I just take a walk I am leaving. uh sometimes i I am going out.

I'm something deep breathes am. I do many jobs Will do. Sometimes- ever me workout key may be needed Is. Workout In fact Me Personal appearance recharge from help to Does. and every Someone a little different happens, and they Different of techniques Will use. And so, In the book, I book I have a lot of to things listed is what you do Can. you are one , two, three, four or All of them do Can. and they In fact This address for you to apply techniques that What for you It works.

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back from shoot at 10:00 PM Came. Yes. And I knew that I have tonight have dinner and I said," I am very sad Yes, I am not coming I will find it. "" It's good that you For. because I I knew that today My day is very stay busy Going to do. I Your interview Was taking. I another guest take interviews Had been. And I thought, " I of that day be present for I like. These really a lot It is important work. and then me to recharge need to, your words If I say, me this evening to recharge is needed.

And I always to recharge things for I keep changing And I get this Ideas a lot I like it because I It seems that when We comfort words If you listen then Sometimes we would feel guilty Is. We such Don’t want to do should, but we guilty feeling feel, Like, "I have to relax There is no time. " Yes. But when you for recharging think about If so, you can make it Again Define Tax have been and would have been thinking "Oh, I to recharge need to Because Otherwise, I will tomorrow own best How can I give it?

" 100%. 100% and you You know, this It's fun, Battery Cases You and I in are the same. I my battery also completely keeps charged with am. near me an electric There is also a car. I to those people be surprised to see I go which Own Electric to the car battery charge up to 5% Can. I don't do that Can. From this I would be stressed Is. when they me These stories says, "Oh, I took the battery Charged up to 5% . "So I stress I will come.

I think," Really? My What does it mean and They say, "Oh, It's okay." Yes. You know, and some people It works for It is, isn't it? My For, this work does not. I every night on that battery plugs in the I am and I am this ensure I am going to do that I can replace the battery Completely Let me charge it. Other people see it as greatly reduce Are. everyone's This is a little for which is different work for them Does. Yes. uh I've got my from some friends who asked it Very low charge they do and they They say, " Well, if I too much of it I charge, So I'm stressed It happens." For example, Oh, okay, other way around could work.

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And if someone says "I'm at five am. "And me emotional, mentally I am talking, their car or their phone's Not about it. what do you do to them Will you say? You from them How to communicate do? when you if at zero Some of these of the means How to use I will do it, I give them space I have learned to give so that we can actually appropriate in be able to talk . If you have any such a person met whose percentage very be less, and I from the person I ask, "How are you Are?

how are you feeling Are? "And they and Most of the time you Just want it "I'm good . "because then You just keep going want. And I have often commercial even in the world I have seen this. Only personal in the world itself No, rather commercial Even in the world. We are no feedback don't want to or sometimes We have this time to say It does not happen that , if he person from whom you ask questions have been saying "I'm fine," I am not. "" And I am not good I am doing.

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and I said, " I'll give it another In a proper way Let me explain. of your phone think about . And we are our phone check We do. And on your phone such things which are Others From the app More battery Finishes it. And they say, Yes, it is the same is like when you Let's go and Apple shows you that all your What is memory is finishing Or is taking it. " And when you are in them some things from delete the let start So what happens ?

or when you start to recognize do that so Why is this happening ? They say, Oh, my battery already work more Has been. "And me I say, "Yes, So your personal in life what is happening like this Is? "Yes. And we different things to compare trying to Are. and not so Yes, we are just Negativity only about Let's talk. We everyday in life different things with Similarities to pull trying to so that it so charged don't become a conversation , Isn't it? And this Recharge Concept Key It is the same as where We say, Let your Mental health talk about We do.

because many times Some people have their Mental health talk about Don’t want to do Want. But We are the battery conversation or to recharge talk about the way of Let's do this one different kind There is framing. And again, I It seems that this There is something that you are brilliantly and taking everyone along Let's go. And I'm here the same try to do Will do. Yes, I to you going to ask this It was because I've always have felt That you are always different -Different touch points remain present at whether we be at dinner, Be at the event, even when we travel and each other Let's look at, When you are this year In the beginning For the time in New York Were there for dinner.

You are always present live, and surprise me that you are a Busy CEO's as how it Can you do it? because I It seems that you absolutely right that when We would answer If so, the question asks, "You How are you? "We subconsciously hoping for that there is no bus Say, "I'm good am. "We are all one kind of question Asking and by receiving a reply already answered hoping for Are. You absolutely right Have been. this thing I am very I liked it. And The truth is that among us for most Life sometimes would have been very fast It is, isn't it?

Our Program One would be one after Are. We our's to the children leaving school, going to work, laundry, laundry, for etc. would have been running away It is, isn't it? Very something would be going on Is. you really In these conversations How to place for Do you make it? And This is too much present and being intentional Is part of. As a leader In, and now I As CEO to know from you too I would like to. haha . all of us Answers to questions hope to give Is performed.

Many types of us to make decisions is expected Is. HR from us role in to fulfill is expected but the company in the strategy of Too. And you You know, when You are one step behind If you move away, you Not every decision Can take it. and then always like this things happen Who unexpected Are there. Own the car analogy Just take it. So, when Your car was You were at 30%, so you perhaps someone's were together, but It's in your mind I was walking," I How to get home Will I reach?

where do I Need to charge? " And you probably best tax in a manner could, but Yet you that person or Your friends with those In conversation to be present wanted those whose You are with me. And I've found that many times we as leaders to make room for It falls. Hmm. Many times we as leaders But something like this had to show is who you are Absolutely Great ways You can do it from, such as them our weak showing favor and Your stories talk about to do.

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Because If I do this No conversation I will do it and I will say that this my own If the trip is they may feel that for them also talk openly not right to do Is. Correct? I just to know that I would like that As a CEO, you What do you do? I mean, You have so many all different There are businesses. You... Yourself employees How is this with We do? Yes, I think that this balance about making is in. so, weakness one Very good The issue is and I really appreciate it Will do Because I am I agree with the point that if you With your team experiences to share make room for If so, they to do the same permission is granted Is.

I think is that when we a month ago At Comcast A panel was , so I'm going to have a client's talking about which I was giving coaching which was a very elder of the Corporation is the CEO, and we by a change Had passed by. They were telling me "Jay, I'm fine feeling am. "And I said, "very Excellent, you your The team's journey About this Should be told. " And they said, "I how to them Should I tell you? " Correct. and I said," what about you it means?

"And He said, If I them I will tell you, then he I will think that I I am weak. "And I said," No, I am from you I promise that they will think that you are strong yes. " And I think that we still in the world renew strength and defined by Define Tax Have been. Me It appears that some of us People still bravery, Ego and to blind devotion as a force Let's see. And I think that it is changing Yes, but very At a slow pace.

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near you never really also stress-free Work Environment is not gonna happen Is. I agree. You know, We are always at work being stressed There are. We everyone's time There will be limitations. We all have such things those who will be We complete I would like to, but everything is like that should not be as it should You said it, 24/7, 365. because someone on point it having so much Gonna make you As a leader I feel will you Probably very efficient There are no. Your The employee might very skillfully not working are, together not a good job Are doing.

And possibly you in their lives Too much stress Has given birth. Worrying about this, like depression things would have been are and then physical diseases starts to happen because we know that your mental health and physical health There is a relationship between . And so it a very become a vicious circle goes, especially At the workplace. and much more than that More unproductiveness it occurs. I think that Our point Hearing many People Question I will do it," okay, Mindfulness or meditation In fact In burnout How does it help Is?

"Or this stress How to help in Does it? So this There is one more thing i mean that Lots of it on this There are sciences, But I It seems that right now There is a lot more too. So I I want you to Answer this . And secondly, Well, this is my productivity to How affected Does it? "Ok? like it really In the people he to work How to motivate does what I get them to do it I like? And Is it only distractions or slow them down work to do Doesn't it?

because I I know that very to organizations from It seems that this In theory it feels good then It is, but it How does it help Is? So, if we take this talk about do that Mindfulness and meditation, Exclusively on Calm Present program, Stress and For burnout How effective are they? Then, Productivity and performance How is this for Are they effective? Yes, I mean Yes, I think that I have These are both. I first second I will start with because this many times in front Comes.

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and so for me it is Continuous learning As it is. And what about us Some of these about things I talk to Are. And you You know, I It appears that In the workforce, it Not a bit different Is. I mean is, because people in the morning to the children Dropping out of school falls and You have breakfast It has to be made, You have to do all these things Have to do it. So, you should stay at night good sleep in need of it occurs.

And I think that Its beginning It comes from there . And then the day Break us in would have needed Is. people think that our of the brain The potential is endless . This is not true . Our capability is not infinite. You know, to our minds, Like everything else, recharge key There is a need. And if you to recharge finding ways to can, whether He gives you every day If you want to listen, then 600 more than For the episode Congrats. We our's Chief Purpose as an officer 50 million of the stream talking about were, whose I am very much for I am grateful because many times For me that's 7 minute, when I I hear you, Whether it's in the car to your children take to school if during 10 minutes into it It seems so.

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because I It is found that if I in a way I work and My battery is 50%, 25% remains less than and I just keep working tries to I live, so My work is very not good Would. Yes. I would say that Many times it shamefully gets worse . And any AI It better not Can make. Yes. Do you understand? absolutely so Not there. Yes. And then I got a step back falls and I have to say, Well, you're wrong going in the direction Are. Little Wait.

"And me One about this In the company and today many other existing of companies talks with am. And I am like this Lot's of employees I know the with whom I talk I do and they agree with this There are. Yes. You are right? Because they think that it is an endless Hamsters There is a wheel. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes, when you say were, I think It was that if Your mind is calm , then you really I quickly and Better decisions Can take it. And If your mind is stressed, So you really I slow down and bad decisions Let's take it.

Yes. And we think "Hey, if I to calm down time for If I remove it, I I will waste time . "But the fact In, if you to calm down time for If you remove it, then You save time will find because you Better decisions Will be able to take it. They More long term Will be. They haste and not random Will be. and they In fact Will be. you are one Better communicator Will be. I like this the whole thing sure if I am under stress I am, then I clearly not communicating with I could do it.

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And your From the book I Learned something, this by reading the statistics I really very I liked it. So, 61 % of people think that from them is expected that they stress Get over it. Yes. it is incredible that 61% of people It seems that from them is expected that they stress Get over it. Yes. Why so Is? when I was little and I had this I did not understand When I was 14 years old was, and I It seems that this younger than that Happened in.

I have used it for book about It is written in This is 14 years old Happened in. I really I think that This happened when I was small. I just need those times I don't remember. When I am very stressed or nervous It used to be and most of the times They take exams or speak or front of the class used to be. Me Just your chest tightness in to feel It seemed so. Me Sometimes breathing difficulty in taking It used to happen. My in the hands I used to sweat.

And I really not understanding was what would happen Used to be. And I my mother spoke to, and a very much traditional Korean Mom's Like, she used to say, Just endure it. " and I said," Okay, I just I will endure it, Isn't it? "But he I don't even know was what would happen Used to be. And me For this blame them Doesn't give. They Just understand at that moment Couldn't find it. You You know, when You are your mental health think about If so, the truth is that it About you No, you know, and It is at that moment about enduring I am not there.

for me it is Strength boost It is about. You know, And this is and battery right here repeatedly similes of Comes forward. Yes. and and me some of it Didn't understand. and then you cup and Then I have No vocabulary Was. Until I Health of service in the area Did not step in, Until then I understand I didn't come," hey wow, what are you going through a phase Were. you sometimes Some? unhealthy of behaviors through it able to manage Were. And now you keep it healthy of behaviors able to do it through yes.

But Vocabulary change Has been. Correct? And now you that On vocabulary Better grip You keep it. So, now U know that About this how to talk while I then did not know that about How do I talk Have to do it. Yes. And so, I It seems that today one of the population of large portion to overcome this think about Used to be. And me It seems that very C population and I I will say that Korea or Asia like In countries More, however Mental Health than ever before more accessible is, such as In America, There it really not accessible in Is.

Correct? And when I get home I go back So it makes me sad Does. My Parents Back to Korea They left, they were there live. I these things from them talk about I want to do And for them this talk about not easy to do It is, isn't it? Address Not for you How was it? Did you have a childhood I am about this from your children Had talked? This is very It is interesting that You are from your childhood of stress of experiences what about He was saying.

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I got them 24 Wearing for hours had to and when I go back If so, they would say were, "Hey, that's fine It is." And I She said, "But Mom, I'm fine I am not. Me feel something has been.""and no one for him There were no words. And so, I it well I can understand from . And then, my Not even to mother knew that it What was it? that help complete to do was trying . But we of this Couldn't find out Could. And so, I with it Moved ahead.

And I was always kept doing the same am. And then I was very grateful that after many years I Mindfulness and meditation learned what my key learnings Have been. And now, It is not that I stage or On podcasts before leaving not nervous It would have been. I still am I am, but I know that What is the plan. And so, my near me There is breathwork. Yes, I know that kisses me Pay attention to the Is. It's not like that that I now of emotions No experience I would do it.

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Yeah, and I just... I started rules in start breaking Had given. And me I am grateful that I did that, But now I realized that I am not the rule Was breaking it. I just my expressing trouble It was that when all something was not right Even then the face or Applying a mask Had to. And I think that For the people today making it happen It is difficult. I have another The data was read in which it was said that 33% of people everyday so stressed out remain troubled that further just think about Can't find it.

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We ask the right questions are or we as an example leadership on want to do . Yes. Correct? Such what was it which you gave them which was shared with To you challenging and felt uncomfortable and which allows you to Did you get success? Yes, last time When you were there, In my childhood, I to smoke talk about Had done. I Your obesity and insecurely about battling I also told . I have always about food There has been a struggle. I love French Fries a lot I like it.

I just going to do that I have been. Yes. I think that I tell everyone I am being that I lots of ice cream Like it. And I think that Sometimes, whether I am on diet In the case some also to do I will try if you in front of me have some fries If you give, then I eat them I will go. If you in front of me keep the ice cream give and my children eat ice cream have been, So I also him I will eat it.

And my children He says, "Papa, I thought that are you full Is. "" I am like that It was, "I am like that It was." Okay. So, I from this I struggle. I know that When I was a little would be under stress I am, so I a little bit Food and drink too I become accustomed to . I am healthy Habits developed try to do I do, with stay healthy Also ways of. And Therefore, I am very more exercise Will do. But among them from some things rid very difficult It happens.

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I think that Nowadays, many leader this problem struggling with As I weakness from you talk about did and you of weakness about which The story was told, That story bar- repeated several times She goes. Wow. You know, Weak leader ways of being Struggle with. And I think that this personal at the level It is generational. I think that the new leader going to emerge which is 20 are in age, They have no no prolem It is about to happen. Ok? Because When you are on social media today media and many more C.

Young Generation Let's look at, So they their mental stress and your mental health talk about they do and they About this very frank talk We do. Now, Again, they excessive use You can do it, or You know, but at least They are about it having a conversation in Have been. Me It seems, you You know, today When I am other Talk to leaders If I do, they That's all they say Hey, is this of your weakness like a sign Did you tell me? And Does it Use my carried out against Will you go?

Yes. Is there any of this about will write and I will say that I Am I very weak? what board this I will think that I As a leader Am I weak? And I think that it ultimately Corporate management also There is a failure Because them to your Mental of health also take care It happens, you Do you know? And So when I, You know, I'm on Calm's board to be in I am lucky today, but if I wouldn't be the CEO , so I'm going to tell that CEO asks, hey, How are you?

You How are you? Let go Today's numbers Does not talk. You know, When I asked the CEO I meet and they Some coaching If you ask for it, then I like this very much seems effective Yes, we are numbers talk about do not do. We of metrics talk about do not do. We just about life I talk to Are. And we later I'll get to that. . But I It seems that when We are a trustworthy Starting from the place do where We can understand that around you What is happening, So I advise Types of giving much more in be thoughtful I can.

But its It also means that that I like place to and making time will be. So every someone has this It's not, is it? And I think that right here In fact being intentional It is very important, Isn't it? in in conversations In fact purposeful Should be. I think that to recharge in us having trouble One reason for this is that when your phone battery ends up , then only one of a kind There is a charger . Well, we are in it are also bad.

the only ones of a kind having a charger Needed Now, I have seen that people in their Connecting the phone to a Mac from the charger Let's charge . You can use your phone ruin the You are, aren't you? You Her iPad charger charged from Let's see what happens. But the issue is that the charger There is only one. Yes. And I think that when it comes comes of life If so, sleep is a The charger is Meditation and mindfulness 100%. Eat There is a charger, Workout a Charger is, and gin from the people you Love you, good with them relationship to be a There is a charger.

And If all of you, when You are listening to this Yes, if you do this to find out that you most When more 1%, 5%, 10 %, felt at 20% do, and it to find out that you for that how much did you charge There is a need. You are right. Is No? I think that this is what we Should be done. like I am a gives examples Yes, I am the second Day One in the program I went, and I out of town I had to go and return to town Fell.

I in the morning Came back at 4:00 . Ouch. and the next day I exercised, And I very much feeling weak happened because I slept well Was not there. I ate properly Was not there. And Therefore, at that time, I am glad that I still Worked out because I It was needed, But I from your trainer said that I A little easier working out will happen because I am weak on feeling pressure on oneself do not put Wanted to have. But it is like this like you get this to find out a little for to make changes It is necessary that kiss you now need of something Is.

like mine busy week Stay, my Weekend Busy remained. This weekend, I know that of recharge What does it mean? I need some social of the plan No need . like this is Recharge Me Will do. And So, I I want that when You are listening to this and David's Book Recharge If you are reading, You write that when you're tired feel, When you're overwhelmed feel, When you burn out feel, So you are the most common what is experience do, and Your charger What is? So that You have that moment think about don't fall because When you are in that moment to find out trying to If so, you and more become overwhelmed Are.

like me I know that go on stage Before, I Always of breathwork practices am. If I some time ago Have done. nights I, I know that sleep is the only one like charge which makes it going to solve Is. Correct? This about while talking, because you something special of rituals talked about Yes, is there anything There are such things that you do every day do, like religion, every day Do you? Yes, I kind of I do the same from Which I call 80/20 I am telling you.

So like I know that week in seven days five days out of I workout Will do. Seven five days out of I am at 9:00 am Meditation before I apply it. And Then the remaining two days 9:00 a.m. After meditation I apply it. And I get this balance Like it. gratitude is one There is such a thing whose every Day practice Will do. And Yes, it is very is important . I think that we, our team something like that with which do I love. every Friday We are one Weekly Winnings do.

and every Share this with someone to do encouraged that it is done They celebrate their victory what do you believe . And sometimes this of the activity about amazing The thing is that do you think that It's always like this would be, "Oh, our Pass Podcast But so and so was "Or have we Awards won . or not so Is. Actually, this small things that people behind the curtain do it behind And this is from outside visible like a big win They do not happen. and they think that this is their There is success.

And I think that to each other This is a way to know The best way is because This lets you know It turns out that people to what consider success Are. And you understand find that people In your work to what valuable I understand. Whereas, we assume that take that if any big If it is a quarter, then to all to be excited Needed And what about us think, "okay Well, probably not.” because they make it your personal success and not contributing I believe. And so, on Friday Weekly Winnings working through with my team to do most favorite One of the works Is.

to do this in about 30 minutes It seems so. and every Someone, my main team, just your Weekly Winnings About this Tells. it A very big deal it occurs. I like this very much Like it. I sometimes weeks at the beginning of Your staff held a meeting beginning like this I do it from, " Your Weekend How was it? Us tell me something like this who is with me Personal appearance "You Do you know, I also did this It has been seen that many the times we see each other without knowing the every little thing gets down to business Are.

And I It has been seen that many Bar Teams not a good job Can do it. They with each other A little more private in this way mingling with Better Together can work . And this is necessary It is not that it Be very deep. It's just that Maybe, "Hey, what did you Did?" Some people He will say, "I Went on a hike. I, you know Yes, your children's games I went to or You know, I'm going somewhere had gone or someone The show is very viewed more It was, and we all think, "Who What show?

Yours Who is your favourite show? What is it? "or some As such. And we that of the person Something else about Know personal things We find it. And Then it's about this I am less," Oh, did you Did he submit the PRD? " Yes, yes, yes. This is the same thing, Isn't it? It just more personal Is. Yes. And I feel like that Is. And you every week your By winning, You know, I like this very much Like it. We Every On Purpose of the episode last five with questions Let's finish it.

to these questions Answer: Maximum one word or a give in a sentence It happens. So, To David, this your last There are five questions. The first question is, You have your in life now The best till Recharge Advice What have you heard? more present To live. I realized that I have many Been there once I am but really No. And so, You are in this job are very good where you just remain present, Whether it is a be a person or hundreds or Thousands. I have seen it.

I am your in the auditorium I have gone where you traveled and everyone Your presence Feels it. And so, presence. I have your answer Liked it. My Not about, you are very kind are, but because I I don't think we understand that when You do not exist If there are how tiring It is about to happen. And you had the first one a wonderful bit example was given when you have Too many tabs and the app would open Are. Yes. Then Our battery ends up .

Absolutely Correct. And so, we many of the People thinking that your battery are finishing up "I'm just David. I am with, But the fact in my mind There is, I and I will work. "And You really your battery are finishing up , so this is a Great answer Is. second question, recharge yourself about to do I have you so far the worst of What advice did you listen to? Is? Sorry, Mom, because he hears must have been and seen May have been. And My mother, I from your mother lots of love I do, so I am from the same going to start I have been.

And He me Many more gave good advice Are. But this probably in childhood given their most It was bad advice, which was constantly Keep working. And it continues keep working About this No, it is In fact Energy booster It is about. And he doesn't I knew you Do you know, But Mom, I It seems that this Energy booster About this Was not there. Question Number three, energy. to increase your Three favorites which methods Are? So, my close to you There are rituals. and my The routine is that as soon as I wake up in the morning I immediately my No phone Would see.

I I go down, makes coffee am. window I will open it. And I take a walk outside and three breaths I will take it. And this There is something that I deliberately Will do. If I travel I am, so I opening the window tries to Yes, whether it Wherever you are, Whether you are someone apartment be in or something And. it Process Focused me start doing Gives. Second work that I do Yes, I am very all the walking holds meetings am. And so, I those things to break the I will try which to me to recharge helps in Are.

So, people I have energy We give. I I would say that outside go, breathe , people me gives energy . And finally, I think that Just like you, Me too exercising I like it and I One for this steady Program in maintaining be much better I have gone. And Even someone asked me another Day said this, He said, Do something every day. "Right? And I'm like this was," very Excellent. I every Go do something for the day I have been. "And I on this seriously I will consider and continue it I will keep it.

Some? I go to the gym during the day I will go for a few days something at home I will do it. it Very early will be. But as well as Exercise also I will do it. I like this very much Like it. Question Number four, electricity to close Your three Preferred methods Which ones? I shut everything down I do it, Meaning Following. So, it's just put the phone on him do not turn over It will be because I don't think so that many times it It happens a lot.

I just this I will say, "Look What? my work Done. "I before you I wanted to ask, because I want to know Yes, if your May there be a day like this in which you Phone or social media of the media do not use If done, then he Day for you How was it? Those days are the most there would be good days Are. so much so It decreases. I really tried very hard Is. a thing which But I especially attention in a way given, that is When I and my Wife in the evening together for dinner happen and then If we do a show or look at something else have been, So both of them during chores of the phone do not use to do.

Because I myself It is often found that like dinner last while doing Emails and messages finish; And Then when you are someone were watching the show If so, your be distracted goes; and then You... Yourself to the partner get distracted Let's see, and Then you get distracted to be those would get angry at Are. But then, when they pick up their phone Keep it down, So you take your phone pick up and they to be distracted on you for would get angry Are. I thinks was," we here What are you doing ?

"and I saw that my attention to focus decrease the capacity of Has been. I last 12 months I already much more I have seen this, and I felt has done that its the reason only The pace of consumption is . So now like this It is not that we a lot of are consuming Yes, we are very at a high speed a lot of are consuming Are. and like this You are your mind everything for two seconds for Easy to remove Are making. And So I my Phone on the weekend completely from to keep free I will try, Because of the week In days I On your phone I keep working.

I also did this It has been found that when I am my team's I will be with you, If I were to laptop room I can keep , but my laptop From the messaging app not connect, And my phone too not in the room So, I am my with the team feel better Will do. So, I email I can, I on your laptop I can work , but this WhatsApp not connected to Yes, this text by message not connect . I get its No need .

And so, when I travel not doing I am, then I my phone with your hand to keep away I will try . If I work go out for I am or driving a car Yes, so obviously It is a matter of fact that I got my phone will be needed, But if I I am in the office, So I have a meeting in or meeting in the middle of your need a phone Not there. and this all such things on which I I am working, because I I find that Ups and downs with it- keep on rising Are.

times like these are when I There is a lot of it in I would be good . I am your point I also agree, I my phone to his bedroom I do not keep, as soon as I wake up in the morning first of all him I don't see. But, with me There would be days like this too are when I traveling Time to complete it break in kind I give, and Therefore, I am someone to realize this not provide I wish that I it well have learned from or I Correct!

learn the way I have gone because I Has not done this Is. And me It seems that this ups and downs As it is. Always Have a nice day and a bad week happens and a good week and a bad day It happens. Yes. Yes, it It's very good. This is fantastic. I like this . sincerely. Yes. David Coe fifth and last question, if You are such a rule can make which is followed all of the world people to do falls, then he What will happen?

5 days for children Gotta go to the gym and they know would that physical It is exercise. And It just makes them I understood it Is. We children For your Mental to health in a better way to understand Why some time? not remove Can? and them their mental health teach about Can. because we Know that this All very quickly begins to . just like that Like I did at 14 at the age of Had started. If I had 14 at the age of that vocabulary If it were, perhaps I am 14 years old at the same age better kind Healthy Behaviour able to develop And when I was young If it happened, I did that Did.

so, I spend some time like to remove I will do it. Every moment This should not happen Needed It is possible that week one, two or Three times we our From the children meet and their Mental Health or of their ability Learn about and question them Ask. I like this very much Like it. This is a very good a small effort whose Big on the world It will have an impact. This The name of the book is Recharge. Randall in this from the park By Macklemore of all There are interviews.

This is a fantastic The book is very Very interesting. I get this Format is very Like it. Me Its format Likes very much. Format is fantastic. Like, you Experts, rappers, rebels, Innovators, of thinkers sit together and You recharged This is the name beautiful book Written. David, I am very grateful I am that you have made it wrote. I am very I am grateful that we Connected. Yes, and I and me here to call Thank you. about the book to talk to Thanks for that. This is such a thing on which I Very proud.

I hope that people something from this will get. We many different talked to people . like you said , Randall that, you You know, you Also know, And there are many There are other people. Delilah. And He very C amazing about things I spoke. And I am from all of them really talking very impressed Happened. his Stories listening to me honored felt and From this I am a better person Made. This makes me your mental health Help with travel I got it and I It is hoped that something more than this Helping people too Will get it.

David, yours Too much Thank you. What There is something that I to you I didn't ask and you really talk about it Want to do it? your heart or something in mind It is something that you share Want? I I would like you to Share it. You never told me did not ask that my battery How are you? Your battery How is it? I will tell you I want that My battery is at 100% There is also more because I time with you opportunity to spend found.

Oh, you are very He is kind. And I to you Let me tell you that like this conversation with me Recharge and energetic Makes it. Me feels good that we sit together Are. Me feels good that I give you personal and professional was able to know am. I our friendship, your Guidance and enlightening for things I am very grateful . I know that you every day how many millions to the people influence Are. I mean that's 50 million More than people- Throughout Calm Employee Base But.

i you Cannot tell that you have on us personal and professional how much in terms of Has had an impact. So , Thanks. I ask you I want that Your battery How is it? Do you know what? I do this because I am not saying because you here and I really like that I am telling you. You My battery too recharged it Is. such as what conversation, I I will say that today since you came First, I was probably 60 But it was. Yes. the last few in weeks I have had many Social programs part in Have taken it.

As that we celebrated Diwali celebrated, which celebrated every year one to go Beautiful It's a festival. We have a lot There was something. and all good things Were. all of that things were in which I wanted to go. Yes. But I am completely year your sleep a lot about stay disciplined am. and year's At this time, I some rest Will do because I many wonderful programs called in goes. And So I a little more feel good I have been. And As soon as you came, You to me Easily 60 to 95 delivered to .

And to be honest, this conversation so it happened because it very real, Very authentic, It seemed very true . I thought, then than, you really were present. And I think that We don't understand this Get. when you with someone If so, you them too are charging while there are You are also charged would have been. And this is such a superpower that Often we think Hey, if I to someone else charging I am, so I losing energy am. But this Not true. If you to someone else to encourage If you are, you be excited too and they have been be excited too Have been.

And what about us Both of them did this today Felt it. And Today I really fell like . and honesty Calm is a Fabulous has been a partner . This is such a team with which I work every day I like to do, Whether the content Be a team, In the studio work with us team that does Yes, once a year frequent visitor Be a team, lead yes. everyone there on your point It runs and it too much for me is impressive because I it at the same moment felt when I kept calm Zoom with everyone and holding a meeting started and it is noted that you all what are doing and I am of the future to be a part of and wait for can't.

So, congratulations and This is just the beginning Is. I think that we are now getting started are, therefore I its appreciates am. Thank you, Victory. Me to invite thanks for . Too much Thank you. If This clip will give you seemed valuable And you something else want to see If yes, then this next Video of your to see of behavior specifically based on But for you has been chosen. I hope that you like it will come and if if you liked it then Please channel Subscribe so that we For you Great conversation Keep bringing it.

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