The State of the Hormone & Peptide Industry w/ Vita Bella Founder Phil Vella | Mind Pump 2802

You just found the most downloaded You just found the most downloaded fitness, health, and entertainment fitness, health, and entertainment fitness, health, and entertainment podcast. This is Mind Pump. Today we had podcast. This is Mind Pump. Today we had podcast. This is Mind Pump. Today we had on Phila. on Phila. on Phila. He runs a company, a hormone and peptide He runs a company, a hormone and peptide He runs a company, a hormone and peptide company called Vitabella, and he reveals company called Vitabella, and he reveals company called Vitabella, and he reveals the truth about that entire industry. the truth about that entire industry. the truth about that entire industry. It's going to blow your mind. The the It's going to blow your mind. The the It's going to blow your mind. The the overcharge that they do for peptides is overcharge that they do for peptides is overcharge that they do for peptides is wild. The quality control, terrible. wild. The quality control, terrible. wild. The quality control, terrible. This guy owns a company, breaks it down This guy owns a company, breaks it down This guy owns a company, breaks it down with full uh disclosure. He's honest with full uh disclosure. He's honest with full uh disclosure. He's honest about the whole thing. In fact, we about the whole thing. In fact, we about the whole thing. In fact, we partnered with him. That's how much we partnered with him. That's how much we partnered with him. That's how much we liked him. So, we know you're going to liked him. So, we know you're going to liked him. So, we know you're going to love this episode. It'll blow your mind. love this episode. It'll blow your mind. love this episode. It'll blow your mind. Anyway, if you're interested in hormone Anyway, if you're interested in hormone Anyway, if you're interested in hormone therapy, peptide therapy, you want the therapy, peptide therapy, you want the therapy, peptide therapy, you want the best prices, you don't want to work with best prices, you don't want to work with best prices, you don't want to work with sales people, you only want to work with sales people, you only want to work with sales people, you only want to work with doctors, go with them. Go to doctors, go with them. Go to doctors, go with them. Go to mpormones.com. That's where you get mpormones.com. That's where you get mpormones.com. That's where you get hooked up. hooked up. hooked up. >> Phil, I'm glad you're here, dude. >> Phil, I'm glad you're here, dude. >> Phil, I'm glad you're here, dude. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm glad we got you here, dude. >> I'm glad we got you here, dude. >> I'm glad we got you here, dude. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Awesome. How you doing? >> Awesome. How you doing? >> Awesome. How you doing? >> I'm doing good, man. >> I'm doing good, man. >> I'm doing good, man. >> Good. So, all right. Uh, short intro. >> Good. So, all right. Uh, short intro. >> Good. So, all right. Uh, short intro. Tell people who you are, what you do, Tell people who you are, what you do, Tell people who you are, what you do, cuz we we met I met you the first time. cuz we we met I met you the first time. cuz we we met I met you the first time. We're at the Peptide Congress. We're at the Peptide Congress. We're at the Peptide Congress. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's when we ran into each other. And, >> That's when we ran into each other. And, >> That's when we ran into each other. And, uh, you know, we hit it off a little uh, you know, we hit it off a little uh, you know, we hit it off a little bit. So, what do you do? bit. So, what do you do? bit. So, what do you do? >> So, I'm the CEO of Vitabella Health. >> So, I'm the CEO of Vitabella Health. >> So, I'm the CEO of Vitabella Health. We're a 40 state health and wellness We're a 40 state health and wellness We're a 40 state health and wellness company. Peptides, hormones, everything. company. Peptides, hormones, everything. company. Peptides, hormones, everything. We're the disruptor in the industry. Um, We're the disruptor in the industry. Um, We're the disruptor in the industry. Um, I've got a bunch of other businesses I've got a bunch of other businesses I've got a bunch of other businesses that I own, but by far, this is the that I own, but by far, this is the that I own, but by far, this is the sexiest and the funnest thing that I've sexiest and the funnest thing that I've sexiest and the funnest thing that I've ever done in my life. That's that's ever done in my life. That's that's ever done in my life. That's that's crazy for me to hear that because uh it crazy for me to hear that because uh it crazy for me to hear that because uh it reminds me a little bit of what it was reminds me a little bit of what it was reminds me a little bit of what it was like for medical marijuana days. I don't like for medical marijuana days. I don't like for medical marijuana days. I don't know if you remember when that hit. Uh I know if you remember when that hit. Uh I know if you remember when that hit. Uh I was a part of that was a part of that was a part of that >> and it's like uh every every week new >> and it's like uh every every week new >> and it's like uh every every week new legislation, different state laws, you legislation, different state laws, you legislation, different state laws, you got big pharma trying to lobby against got big pharma trying to lobby against got big pharma trying to lobby against you and so it feels like it would be a you and so it feels like it would be a you and so it feels like it would be a [ __ ] storm to try and run. So explain [ __ ] storm to try and run. So explain [ __ ] storm to try and run. So explain the the excitement or the attitude that the the excitement or the attitude that the the excitement or the attitude that you have towards that because it gave me you have towards that because it gave me you have towards that because it gave me a headache. a headache. a headache. >> Uh I'll just say it straight is if I >> Uh I'll just say it straight is if I >> Uh I'll just say it straight is if I could do any other business again, it could do any other business again, it could do any other business again, it wouldn't be this business. Okay. Okay. wouldn't be this business. Okay. Okay. wouldn't be this business. Okay. Okay. Let me be very clear. It wouldn't be Let me be very clear. It wouldn't be Let me be very clear. It wouldn't be this business. However, now that I've this business. However, now that I've this business. However, now that I've already done it and I'm in it and I've already done it and I'm in it and I've already done it and I'm in it and I've got all the licenses, the DEA, the got all the licenses, the DEA, the got all the licenses, the DEA, the stupid amount of paperwork, all the red stupid amount of paperwork, all the red stupid amount of paperwork, all the red tape to get through and be successful, tape to get through and be successful, tape to get through and be successful, >> it's that hard to do it. So, it's that >> it's that hard to do it. So, it's that >> it's that hard to do it. So, it's that easy to succeed once you've done it. easy to succeed once you've done it. easy to succeed once you've done it. >> Oh, I see. >> Oh, I see. >> Oh, I see. >> So, it's so hard to penetrate and >> So, it's so hard to penetrate and >> So, it's so hard to penetrate and understand all of these laws. It really understand all of these laws. It really understand all of these laws. It really is. It's And every day you're right, the is. It's And every day you're right, the is. It's And every day you're right, the peptide laws change and all of a sudden peptide laws change and all of a sudden peptide laws change and all of a sudden you're like, hey, you can't ship in you're like, hey, you can't ship in you're like, hey, you can't ship in Clomophane just to the state of Clomophane just to the state of Clomophane just to the state of Colorado. Now, it's this one. You're Colorado. Now, it's this one. You're Colorado. Now, it's this one. You're like, you can't advertise Viagra in like, you can't advertise Viagra in like, you can't advertise Viagra in South Carolina, but everything else is South Carolina, but everything else is South Carolina, but everything else is okay. okay. okay. >> And so, that the laws changed on a >> And so, that the laws changed on a >> And so, that the laws changed on a consistent basis. They're going to consistent basis. They're going to consistent basis. They're going to continue to change continue to change continue to change >> the Pharmacopia, everybody. But uh the >> the Pharmacopia, everybody. But uh the >> the Pharmacopia, everybody. But uh the excitement comes from tr truly the text excitement comes from tr truly the text excitement comes from tr truly the text messages that I get of people like dude messages that I get of people like dude messages that I get of people like dude you don't understand you don't you don't understand you don't you don't understand you don't understand she said yes dude you don't understand she said yes dude you don't understand she said yes dude you don't understand I got a promotion the energy understand I got a promotion the energy understand I got a promotion the energy my kids my parents like the feedback my kids my parents like the feedback my kids my parents like the feedback that I get from patient it's addict it that I get from patient it's addict it that I get from patient it's addict it is I I tell people this is I I tell people this is I I tell people this >> it's it's [ __ ] narcissism it is it's >> it's it's [ __ ] narcissism it is it's >> it's it's [ __ ] narcissism it is it's [ __ ] it's narcissism I'm just like I [ __ ] it's narcissism I'm just like I [ __ ] it's narcissism I'm just like I did that I did that his life would have did that I did that his life would have did that I did that his life would have never been the same. So like he's on a never been the same. So like he's on a never been the same. So like he's on a trajectory. He's 300 lb. All of a sudden trajectory. He's 300 lb. All of a sudden trajectory. He's 300 lb. All of a sudden >> he's 210 shredded. No girl ever talked >> he's 210 shredded. No girl ever talked >> he's 210 shredded. No girl ever talked to him in his life. Now the guy's to him in his life. Now the guy's to him in his life. Now the guy's walking out picking up girls. Has an walking out picking up girls. Has an walking out picking up girls. Has an amazing business. I mean I told the amazing business. I mean I told the amazing business. I mean I told the story the other day this one of our story the other day this one of our story the other day this one of our patients guy was broke. Couldn't afford patients guy was broke. Couldn't afford patients guy was broke. Couldn't afford his meds. Now he's making like 500 grand his meds. Now he's making like 500 grand his meds. Now he's making like 500 grand a month. a month. a month. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Killing the game. Guy's got a baby on >> Killing the game. Guy's got a baby on >> Killing the game. Guy's got a baby on the way. A fiance that it would have the way. A fiance that it would have the way. A fiance that it would have been impossible been impossible been impossible >> to get back in the day. But yeah, I mean >> to get back in the day. But yeah, I mean >> to get back in the day. But yeah, I mean it's so you're obviously a serial it's so you're obviously a serial it's so you're obviously a serial entrepreneur. Give me a little bit of a entrepreneur. Give me a little bit of a entrepreneur. Give me a little bit of a rundown of what what you did kind of rundown of what what you did kind of rundown of what what you did kind of before and then and then what got you to before and then and then what got you to before and then and then what got you to dip into this space. dip into this space. dip into this space. >> I've always been in tech, you know, >> I've always been in tech, you know, >> I've always been in tech, you know, welcome home in San Jose. I was the welcome home in San Jose. I was the welcome home in San Jose. I was the godfather of Cisco software division, godfather of Cisco software division, godfather of Cisco software division, employee number one. employee number one. employee number one. >> No way. Uh I was Yes. >> No way. Uh I was Yes. >> No way. Uh I was Yes. >> No kidding. >> No kidding. >> No kidding. >> Yeah. I went in um 0 and when I first >> Yeah. I went in um 0 and when I first >> Yeah. I went in um 0 and when I first started the division um and I left at started the division um and I left at started the division um and I left at about 5.5 billion in 2019. Today the about 5.5 billion in 2019. Today the about 5.5 billion in 2019. Today the division is doing about 22 billion. So division is doing about 22 billion. So division is doing about 22 billion. So that's where I first came up. I know that's where I first came up. I know that's where I first came up. I know everybody really well here. Chuck everybody really well here. Chuck everybody really well here. Chuck Robbins, who's the current CEO, he did Robbins, who's the current CEO, he did Robbins, who's the current CEO, he did my engagement. John Chambers did my my engagement. John Chambers did my my engagement. John Chambers did my engagement. I know all the the boys at engagement. I know all the the boys at engagement. I know all the the boys at Cisco. But yeah, I came up in tech and Cisco. But yeah, I came up in tech and Cisco. But yeah, I came up in tech and uh prior to that I had tech companies, uh prior to that I had tech companies, uh prior to that I had tech companies, but I came in through tech to Cisco but I came in through tech to Cisco but I came in through tech to Cisco through a WebEx acquisition in 2007. through a WebEx acquisition in 2007. through a WebEx acquisition in 2007. Crushed it at Cisco. 2019 became a Crushed it at Cisco. 2019 became a Crushed it at Cisco. 2019 became a full-time single dad and walked in, full-time single dad and walked in, full-time single dad and walked in, shucked my computer, and I'm like, I shucked my computer, and I'm like, I shucked my computer, and I'm like, I don't know what God has planned for me, don't know what God has planned for me, don't know what God has planned for me, but she's not gonna grow up with a but she's not gonna grow up with a but she's not gonna grow up with a nanny. nanny. nanny. >> And that's what happened. And so, and >> And that's what happened. And so, and >> And that's what happened. And so, and then my daughter sat me down one day. then my daughter sat me down one day. then my daughter sat me down one day. Her name's Mia Bella, my beautiful. And Her name's Mia Bella, my beautiful. And Her name's Mia Bella, my beautiful. And I said, "What's the greatest job in the I said, "What's the greatest job in the I said, "What's the greatest job in the world?" And she says, "It's a doctor, world?" And she says, "It's a doctor, world?" And she says, "It's a doctor, daddy." And I was like, "Well, the hell daddy." And I was like, "Well, the hell daddy." And I was like, "Well, the hell with me going to medical school, so with me going to medical school, so with me going to medical school, so that's not gonna happen." She goes, that's not gonna happen." She goes, that's not gonna happen." She goes, "They save lives." And I'm like, "Yeah, "They save lives." And I'm like, "Yeah, "They save lives." And I'm like, "Yeah, that that's great. We're not saving that that's great. We're not saving that that's great. We're not saving lives then. I don't know what you want lives then. I don't know what you want lives then. I don't know what you want me to tell you, but uh we went through me to tell you, but uh we went through me to tell you, but uh we went through and and and I thought to myself, I had and and and I thought to myself, I had and and and I thought to myself, I had double spinal fusion. The doctor said 12 double spinal fusion. The doctor said 12 double spinal fusion. The doctor said 12 months to recover. I needed to be back months to recover. I needed to be back months to recover. I needed to be back in 90 days, growth hormone, peptides, in 90 days, growth hormone, peptides, in 90 days, growth hormone, peptides, everything. He charged me crazy amounts everything. He charged me crazy amounts everything. He charged me crazy amounts of money. of money. of money. >> 22 grand, by the way, per month for the >> 22 grand, by the way, per month for the >> 22 grand, by the way, per month for the meds. Found out it was 2,200. And I'm meds. Found out it was 2,200. And I'm meds. Found out it was 2,200. And I'm like, like, like, "Fuck off. There's no way." And so I "Fuck off. There's no way." And so I "Fuck off. There's no way." And so I spent uh a lot of money putting that man spent uh a lot of money putting that man spent uh a lot of money putting that man out of business. So my daughter and me out of business. So my daughter and me out of business. So my daughter and me sat down one day and I was like, "Daddy sat down one day and I was like, "Daddy sat down one day and I was like, "Daddy wants to go wants to go wants to go have doctors work for him." have doctors work for him." have doctors work for him." >> And she goes, "That's even cooler. You >> And she goes, "That's even cooler. You >> And she goes, "That's even cooler. You mean to tell me we get to tell them who mean to tell me we get to tell them who mean to tell me we get to tell them who lives and who dies? lives and who dies? lives and who dies? >> This is amazing." I'm like, "Not >> This is amazing." I'm like, "Not >> This is amazing." I'm like, "Not exactly, but kind of." And she's like, exactly, but kind of." And she's like, exactly, but kind of." And she's like, "Let's do it." So Vabella means "Let's do it." So Vabella means "Let's do it." So Vabella means beautiful life, my beautiful. My beautiful life, my beautiful. My beautiful life, my beautiful. My daughter or beautiful life um life is daughter or beautiful life um life is daughter or beautiful life um life is beautiful. And my daughter's like, beautiful. And my daughter's like, beautiful. And my daughter's like, "Let's let's call it Vita Bella." And so "Let's let's call it Vita Bella." And so "Let's let's call it Vita Bella." And so that's how we got into this particular that's how we got into this particular that's how we got into this particular space. you're getting transitioning when space. you're getting transitioning when space. you're getting transitioning when you're at Cisco doing so many different you're at Cisco doing so many different you're at Cisco doing so many different businesses. I had so many different businesses. I had so many different businesses. I had so many different businesses to see and look at. Yeah. Um businesses to see and look at. Yeah. Um businesses to see and look at. Yeah. Um >> I got into restaurant industry. I got >> I got into restaurant industry. I got >> I got into restaurant industry. I got into AI industries. I got into software into AI industries. I got into software into AI industries. I got into software marketing automation industries as marketing automation industries as marketing automation industries as investors, operators. Then I realized I investors, operators. Then I realized I investors, operators. Then I realized I don't want to operate and do that. But don't want to operate and do that. But don't want to operate and do that. But this industry this industry this industry the reward is like psychotic. What what the reward is like psychotic. What what the reward is like psychotic. What what skills do you think that you picked up skills do you think that you picked up skills do you think that you picked up from the other businesses that are most from the other businesses that are most from the other businesses that are most applicable to this one? Like what it did applicable to this one? Like what it did applicable to this one? Like what it did like obviously like obviously like obviously Cisco you see all these different Cisco you see all these different Cisco you see all these different businesses. Uh lots of them probably businesses. Uh lots of them probably businesses. Uh lots of them probably look very different. Tech is you think look very different. Tech is you think look very different. Tech is you think is very different than peptide space but is very different than peptide space but is very different than peptide space but obviously you did you picked up enough obviously you did you picked up enough obviously you did you picked up enough to go do very well at this. What what to go do very well at this. What what to go do very well at this. What what skills do you think apply the most that skills do you think apply the most that skills do you think apply the most that you picked up? What were they? Well, the you picked up? What were they? Well, the you picked up? What were they? Well, the first thing is we we built the company first thing is we we built the company first thing is we we built the company 100% mimicked off of an enterprise 100% mimicked off of an enterprise 100% mimicked off of an enterprise license agreement in tech. license agreement in tech. license agreement in tech. >> Okay, explain that. >> Okay, explain that. >> Okay, explain that. >> Yeah, so enterprise license agreements >> Yeah, so enterprise license agreements >> Yeah, so enterprise license agreements is like Microsoft. They sell you OCS is like Microsoft. They sell you OCS is like Microsoft. They sell you OCS 365. So you get, you know, Word, you get 365. So you get, you know, Word, you get 365. So you get, you know, Word, you get your Excel, you get notes, you get your Excel, you get notes, you get your Excel, you get notes, you get everything that's included with OCS, everything that's included with OCS, everything that's included with OCS, email, all of it. email, all of it. email, all of it. >> So I thought to myself, how do I make >> So I thought to myself, how do I make >> So I thought to myself, how do I make like a SAS instead of HASS healthcare as like a SAS instead of HASS healthcare as like a SAS instead of HASS healthcare as a service company? And that's what a service company? And that's what a service company? And that's what Vabella is. It's a service. It's a Vabella is. It's a service. It's a Vabella is. It's a service. It's a membership driven company, very similar membership driven company, very similar membership driven company, very similar to like a software as a service company. to like a software as a service company. to like a software as a service company. You pay your monthly fee. You get access You pay your monthly fee. You get access You pay your monthly fee. You get access to your doctors. You get free injectable to your doctors. You get free injectable to your doctors. You get free injectable supplies. You get to treat all eight supplies. You get to treat all eight supplies. You get to treat all eight categories, hormones, all the way down categories, hormones, all the way down categories, hormones, all the way down to skin care. So, we have everything to skin care. So, we have everything to skin care. So, we have everything that there's nothing excluded. If it that there's nothing excluded. If it that there's nothing excluded. If it treats narcissism, confidence, treats narcissism, confidence, treats narcissism, confidence, self-esteem, or ego, we prescribe it. self-esteem, or ego, we prescribe it. self-esteem, or ego, we prescribe it. >> It's literally what it is. >> It's literally what it is. >> It's literally what it is. >> All things. >> All things. >> All things. >> If you have any sickness whatsoever, >> If you have any sickness whatsoever, >> If you have any sickness whatsoever, please find another company. Were you please find another company. Were you please find another company. Were you the first to do that in this space to the first to do that in this space to the first to do that in this space to disrupt it like that? Did you Did disrupt it like that? Did you Did disrupt it like that? Did you Did anybody was anybody else doing like a anybody was anybody else doing like a anybody was anybody else doing like a membership base like that? membership base like that? membership base like that? >> Hone did a membership base, but it was >> Hone did a membership base, but it was >> Hone did a membership base, but it was like testosterone and like one other like testosterone and like one other like testosterone and like one other thing. But thing. But thing. But >> to do everything, first of all, we're >> to do everything, first of all, we're >> to do everything, first of all, we're still the only company that does what we still the only company that does what we still the only company that does what we do. do. do. >> Eight categories of treatment. No one no >> Eight categories of treatment. No one no >> Eight categories of treatment. No one no one even has skinincare. one even has skinincare. one even has skinincare. >> Like you've got HIMS, hair loss, they've >> Like you've got HIMS, hair loss, they've >> Like you've got HIMS, hair loss, they've got, you know, sexual wellness. got, you know, sexual wellness. got, you know, sexual wellness. >> They focus on one little >> They focus on one little >> They focus on one little >> Yeah. And so I'm like, by the way, it's >> Yeah. And so I'm like, by the way, it's >> Yeah. And so I'm like, by the way, it's not the smartest thing to do. Let me be not the smartest thing to do. Let me be not the smartest thing to do. Let me be very clear for those who are thinking very clear for those who are thinking very clear for those who are thinking about this. It's not going this broad is about this. It's not going this broad is about this. It's not going this broad is very hard cuz you're you're a jack very hard cuz you're you're a jack very hard cuz you're you're a jack >> of of many trades instead of a master of >> of of many trades instead of a master of >> of of many trades instead of a master of one specifically. It's a little easier. one specifically. It's a little easier. one specifically. It's a little easier. But give people choice. Give people But give people choice. Give people But give people choice. Give people options. options. options. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What what's happened recently in this >> What what's happened recently in this >> What what's happened recently in this peptide space where the the gray market, peptide space where the the gray market, peptide space where the the gray market, the research chemicals, they're like the research chemicals, they're like the research chemicals, they're like they're selling out. They're trying to they're selling out. They're trying to they're selling out. They're trying to get out because something is coming get out because something is coming get out because something is coming along the pipelines that says you guys along the pipelines that says you guys along the pipelines that says you guys can't do that anymore. Has to be through can't do that anymore. Has to be through can't do that anymore. Has to be through prescription. What happened? The the FDA prescription. What happened? The the FDA prescription. What happened? The the FDA has patiently watched all of these has patiently watched all of these has patiently watched all of these companies market research grade peptides companies market research grade peptides companies market research grade peptides to humans for human consumption. So on to humans for human consumption. So on to humans for human consumption. So on the bottles it specifically says not for the bottles it specifically says not for the bottles it specifically says not for human consumption, human consumption, human consumption, >> but we know who they're selling. >> but we know who they're selling. >> but we know who they're selling. >> But we know who they're selling to. It >> But we know who they're selling to. It >> But we know who they're selling to. It literally says in the ads, the emails, literally says in the ads, the emails, literally says in the ads, the emails, the J Campbell, the peptide sciences, the J Campbell, the peptide sciences, the J Campbell, the peptide sciences, Swiss chem, you can see it all. It's Swiss chem, you can see it all. It's Swiss chem, you can see it all. It's black and white. black and white. black and white. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> The problem is is there's thousands of >> The problem is is there's thousands of >> The problem is is there's thousands of CDC cases of people getting very bad CDC cases of people getting very bad CDC cases of people getting very bad side effects. You're not under guidance. side effects. You're not under guidance. side effects. You're not under guidance. You have no medical. They're not looking You have no medical. They're not looking You have no medical. They're not looking at labs. You're looking at the at labs. You're looking at the at labs. You're looking at the catastrophic damage that's being done to catastrophic damage that's being done to catastrophic damage that's being done to specific individuals that do not know specific individuals that do not know specific individuals that do not know what these things do because quite what these things do because quite what these things do because quite frankly, they're uneducated in the frankly, they're uneducated in the frankly, they're uneducated in the market. Right? We've seen people come in market. Right? We've seen people come in market. Right? We've seen people come in that are using GHRH's and GHRPs with that are using GHRH's and GHRPs with that are using GHRH's and GHRPs with PSAs of 20. So this is these are those PSAs of 20. So this is these are those PSAs of 20. So this is these are those are growth hormone boosting peptides are growth hormone boosting peptides are growth hormone boosting peptides when they have a high they got prostate when they have a high they got prostate when they have a high they got prostate enlargement and stuff going on there enlargement and stuff going on there enlargement and stuff going on there which if you had a PSA of 20 it's like which if you had a PSA of 20 it's like which if you had a PSA of 20 it's like we got to check you for cancer we got to check you for cancer we got to check you for cancer >> correct >> correct >> correct >> the last thing you would do is boost >> the last thing you would do is boost >> the last thing you would do is boost growth hormone if you have cancer growth hormone if you have cancer growth hormone if you have cancer >> 100%. Yeah I mean so that you're you're >> 100%. Yeah I mean so that you're you're >> 100%. Yeah I mean so that you're you're prescribing medications to people and prescribing medications to people and prescribing medications to people and they're taking dosages that no one has they're taking dosages that no one has they're taking dosages that no one has any idea no one has any idea what any idea no one has any idea what any idea no one has any idea what they're actually taking and what the they're actually taking and what the they're actually taking and what the correct dose is. I mean, we've seen it's correct dose is. I mean, we've seen it's correct dose is. I mean, we've seen it's sick. Well, we've se it's sick. And I'm sick. Well, we've se it's sick. And I'm sick. Well, we've se it's sick. And I'm like, and the guy goes, you know, I'm like, and the guy goes, you know, I'm like, and the guy goes, you know, I'm feeling like a my stomach, like my feeling like a my stomach, like my feeling like a my stomach, like my stomach, I've got a six-pack, but now stomach, I've got a six-pack, but now stomach, I've got a six-pack, but now it's grow because your organs are it's grow because your organs are it's grow because your organs are growing, pal. growing, pal. growing, pal. >> Your organs are growing. You've got >> Your organs are growing. You've got >> Your organs are growing. You've got cardiomyopathy. cardiomyopathy. cardiomyopathy. You you're literally not under guidance. You you're literally not under guidance. You you're literally not under guidance. Like how, and I said this on every Like how, and I said this on every Like how, and I said this on every podcast I've been on, how can you podcast I've been on, how can you podcast I've been on, how can you literally look directly in somebody's literally look directly in somebody's literally look directly in somebody's face or get on the phone with them and face or get on the phone with them and face or get on the phone with them and tell them what they should be doing when tell them what they should be doing when tell them what they should be doing when you haven't seen their labs, you don't you haven't seen their labs, you don't you haven't seen their labs, you don't know their health history, and you know know their health history, and you know know their health history, and you know nothing about them? nothing about them? nothing about them? >> It's impossible. >> It's impossible. >> It's impossible. >> And by the way, how do you feel good >> And by the way, how do you feel good >> And by the way, how do you feel good about yourself? about yourself? about yourself? >> You you uh we you and I text each other >> You you uh we you and I text each other >> You you uh we you and I text each other every once in a while and you were like, every once in a while and you were like, every once in a while and you were like, "Just wait till I show you some of the "Just wait till I show you some of the "Just wait till I show you some of the test results of these trademark." So, test results of these trademark." So, test results of these trademark." So, I've been waiting. I didn't ask you. So I've been waiting. I didn't ask you. So I've been waiting. I didn't ask you. So what did you guys do? You guys go and what did you guys do? You guys go and what did you guys do? You guys go and grab a bunch of gray Marcus and test it. grab a bunch of gray Marcus and test it. grab a bunch of gray Marcus and test it. What' you find? What' you find? What' you find? >> So we took a whole bunch of peptides. >> So we took a whole bunch of peptides. >> So we took a whole bunch of peptides. And by the way, there's some good ones. And by the way, there's some good ones. And by the way, there's some good ones. I'm not going to lie. There's some good I'm not going to lie. There's some good I'm not going to lie. There's some good ones. What I'm realizing is what I'm ones. What I'm realizing is what I'm ones. What I'm realizing is what I'm realizing is these companies are getting realizing is these companies are getting realizing is these companies are getting it from the same source. So if Red Tide it from the same source. So if Red Tide it from the same source. So if Red Tide tests perfectly on one, it's going to tests perfectly on one, it's going to tests perfectly on one, it's going to test perfectly on most of them. test perfectly on most of them. test perfectly on most of them. >> Okay? >> Okay? >> Okay? >> However, there are certain meds that >> However, there are certain meds that >> However, there are certain meds that people mislabel. So because they're people mislabel. So because they're people mislabel. So because they're getting them in clear biles, so you have getting them in clear biles, so you have getting them in clear biles, so you have to label them. So now you don't have any to label them. So now you don't have any to label them. So now you don't have any QC quality control. Meaning like your QC quality control. Meaning like your QC quality control. Meaning like your BPC 157 could be KPV, could be CJC, you BPC 157 could be KPV, could be CJC, you BPC 157 could be KPV, could be CJC, you don't know because they're just wrapping don't know because they're just wrapping don't know because they're just wrapping a label on site. What if they mix the a label on site. What if they mix the a label on site. What if they mix the box? What if they take that box, put it box? What if they take that box, put it box? What if they take that box, put it on another area? on another area? on another area? >> So four of the peptides that we tested, >> So four of the peptides that we tested, >> So four of the peptides that we tested, we don't even know what it is inside of we don't even know what it is inside of we don't even know what it is inside of them. them. them. >> So it came back NK or uh yeah, NK not >> So it came back NK or uh yeah, NK not >> So it came back NK or uh yeah, NK not known. known. known. >> So So it said something you tested for >> So So it said something you tested for >> So So it said something you tested for that. that. that. >> We we don't even know what's inside. >> We we don't even know what's inside. >> We we don't even know what's inside. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah. And then the purities all over the >> Yeah. And then the purities all over the >> Yeah. And then the purities all over the map. NAD at 23%, 78%, map. NAD at 23%, 78%, map. NAD at 23%, 78%, 91%, all one of them 120% of what it 91%, all one of them 120% of what it 91%, all one of them 120% of what it said was supposed to be inside. So it's said was supposed to be inside. So it's said was supposed to be inside. So it's like 120 milligrams per and you're like like 120 milligrams per and you're like like 120 milligrams per and you're like what? what? what? >> Wow. in the and so listen >> Wow. in the and so listen >> Wow. in the and so listen the cost of quality peptides the cost of the cost of quality peptides the cost of the cost of quality peptides the cost of real real real pharmaceutical licensed pharmaceutical licensed pharmaceutical licensed inspectedarmacies that are prescribing inspectedarmacies that are prescribing inspectedarmacies that are prescribing that like Vabella they're not expensive that like Vabella they're not expensive that like Vabella they're not expensive we make them expensive because of greedy we make them expensive because of greedy we make them expensive because of greedy egotistical capitalist pig [ __ ] >> just like that so hold on a second so >> just like that so hold on a second so because the the the they're always because the the the they're always because the the the they're always saying, "Look, research chem, you know, saying, "Look, research chem, you know, saying, "Look, research chem, you know, research chemical grade peptides, you'll research chemical grade peptides, you'll research chemical grade peptides, you'll save money because the stuff that comes save money because the stuff that comes save money because the stuff that comes out of the FDA approved labs so out of the FDA approved labs so out of the FDA approved labs so expensive or or pharmaceut too expensive or or pharmaceut too expensive or or pharmaceut too expensive." And you're saying that's not expensive." And you're saying that's not expensive." And you're saying that's not true. They're just marking them up like true. They're just marking them up like true. They're just marking them up like crazy. crazy. crazy. >> What's it really cost? What's it cost to >> What's it really cost? What's it cost to >> What's it really cost? What's it cost to get Samorland direct to the consumer? get Samorland direct to the consumer? get Samorland direct to the consumer? So, I'll talk some prices here. Maybe it So, I'll talk some prices here. Maybe it So, I'll talk some prices here. Maybe it cost Samorland for a bottle 70 80 bucks cost Samorland for a bottle 70 80 bucks cost Samorland for a bottle 70 80 bucks direct from the pharmacy to me. To me, direct from the pharmacy to me. To me, direct from the pharmacy to me. To me, right? I'm I'm going to be very This is right? I'm I'm going to be very This is right? I'm I'm going to be very This is going to be the most transparent stuff. going to be the most transparent stuff. going to be the most transparent stuff. I don't know where these cameras are. I don't know where these cameras are. I don't know where these cameras are. It's the most transparent conversation It's the most transparent conversation It's the most transparent conversation you're going to have today. you're going to have today. you're going to have today. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Is let's say it cost me 70 bucks, 80 >> Is let's say it cost me 70 bucks, 80 >> Is let's say it cost me 70 bucks, 80 bucks, 90 bucks. bucks, 90 bucks. bucks, 90 bucks. >> I'll charge 190. >> I'll charge 190. >> I'll charge 190. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> 190 bucks. I'm making money. But then >> 190 bucks. I'm making money. But then >> 190 bucks. I'm making money. But then you go to other companies, which I know you go to other companies, which I know you go to other companies, which I know of. They're in Scottsdale. O, I want to of. They're in Scottsdale. O, I want to of. They're in Scottsdale. O, I want to call them out so bad. So you got other call them out so bad. So you got other call them out so bad. So you got other companies that are charging $1,100 for companies that are charging $1,100 for companies that are charging $1,100 for some more and then they're giving you by some more and then they're giving you by some more and then they're giving you by the way the way the way >> so their margin is 80 to $1,100 >> so their margin is 80 to $1,100 >> so their margin is 80 to $1,100 >> and by the way I'm talking about a 15 >> and by the way I'm talking about a 15 >> and by the way I'm talking about a 15 mgram vial of Samorland not two 15 mgram vial of Samorland not two 15 mgram vial of Samorland not two 15 >> yeah I'm selling 15 milligram vials cuz >> yeah I'm selling 15 milligram vials cuz >> yeah I'm selling 15 milligram vials cuz they're not that expensive and all those they're not that expensive and all those they're not that expensive and all those people that want to come and they're people that want to come and they're people that want to come and they're going to be like oh but you're still going to be like oh but you're still going to be like oh but you're still price gouging making money. How [ __ ] price gouging making money. How [ __ ] price gouging making money. How [ __ ] expensive do you think it is to be expensive do you think it is to be expensive do you think it is to be successful in this industry? I've got successful in this industry? I've got successful in this industry? I've got medical insurance, malpractice medical insurance, malpractice medical insurance, malpractice insurance. I've got EMR systems, insurance. I've got EMR systems, insurance. I've got EMR systems, portals, [ __ ] tons of documents, DEAS, portals, [ __ ] tons of documents, DEAS, portals, [ __ ] tons of documents, DEAS, licensing, medical licensing in every licensing, medical licensing in every licensing, medical licensing in every single state is horrifically expensive. single state is horrifically expensive. single state is horrifically expensive. Each one of my providers, if I want to Each one of my providers, if I want to Each one of my providers, if I want to get them licensed in every single state, get them licensed in every single state, get them licensed in every single state, all in, thank God we're getting a little all in, thank God we're getting a little all in, thank God we're getting a little DEA help right now because you only need DEA help right now because you only need DEA help right now because you only need one DEA right now. But when you needed one DEA right now. But when you needed one DEA right now. But when you needed all the DEAs, it's $888 per DEA per all the DEAs, it's $888 per DEA per all the DEAs, it's $888 per DEA per state for one single doctor or one state for one single doctor or one state for one single doctor or one single nurse practitioner. single nurse practitioner. single nurse practitioner. >> So hold on. So So that's 880 times 50. >> So hold on. So So that's 880 times 50. >> So hold on. So So that's 880 times 50. It's 40 grand It's 40 grand It's 40 grand >> per per person. >> per per person. >> per per person. >> Per person, >> Per person, >> Per person, >> right? That's what it used to be. Now >> right? That's what it used to be. Now >> right? That's what it used to be. Now it's just 8.88. But then you look at all it's just 8.88. But then you look at all it's just 8.88. But then you look at all the medical licensing, 30 to 40 grand the medical licensing, 30 to 40 grand the medical licensing, 30 to 40 grand per practitioner if they want to be per practitioner if they want to be per practitioner if they want to be licensed in every state. That's just licensed in every state. That's just licensed in every state. That's just licensing. licensing. licensing. >> And how many how many patients would one >> And how many how many patients would one >> And how many how many patients would one practitioner be able to work with? practitioner be able to work with? practitioner be able to work with? >> You figure if they can, you know, maybe >> You figure if they can, you know, maybe >> You figure if they can, you know, maybe a thousandish. a thousandish. a thousandish. >> Okay. So, you try to grow your company, >> Okay. So, you try to grow your company, >> Okay. So, you try to grow your company, you're going to have to add. you're going to have to add. you're going to have to add. >> I have a ton. I just hired another 20 >> I have a ton. I just hired another 20 >> I have a ton. I just hired another 20 due to the uh fund that I think we'll be due to the uh fund that I think we'll be due to the uh fund that I think we'll be talking about very shortly. talking about very shortly. talking about very shortly. >> All right, tell >> All right, tell >> All right, tell >> let's get the cat out of there. >> let's get the cat out of there. >> let's get the cat out of there. >> Let's go there for a second. So, what's >> Let's go there for a second. So, what's >> Let's go there for a second. So, what's going on? So, we worked with going on? So, we worked with going on? So, we worked with >> I've had so many of these conversations >> I've had so many of these conversations >> I've had so many of these conversations and everybody's been thanking us. So, and everybody's been thanking us. So, and everybody's been thanking us. So, >> so we so our uh we worked with Transcend >> so we so our uh we worked with Transcend >> so we so our uh we worked with Transcend for a little while. They were one of the for a little while. They were one of the for a little while. They were one of the larger providers of peptides and larger providers of peptides and larger providers of peptides and hormones. And uh I'm not going to go hormones. And uh I'm not going to go hormones. And uh I'm not going to go into details, but let's just say they into details, but let's just say they into details, but let's just say they owe us a lot of money and they owe owe us a lot of money and they owe owe us a lot of money and they owe everyone. everyone. everyone. >> They screwed they did they did some bad >> They screwed they did they did some bad >> They screwed they did they did some bad stuff. Some really bad stuff. Lots of stuff. Some really bad stuff. Lots of stuff. Some really bad stuff. 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They were a big company. Big vacuum. >> Transcend I think was one of the staples >> Transcend I think was one of the staples >> Transcend I think was one of the staples in the industry. They also were the in the industry. They also were the in the industry. They also were the largest overcharging company in the largest overcharging company in the largest overcharging company in the world. I've never seen prices like what world. I've never seen prices like what world. I've never seen prices like what they charge. They had salespeople that they charge. They had salespeople that they charge. They had salespeople that literally sold. We don't have even one literally sold. We don't have even one literally sold. We don't have even one salesperson in my company. Doesn't salesperson in my company. Doesn't salesperson in my company. Doesn't exist. It's you and the doctor. exist. It's you and the doctor. exist. It's you and the doctor. >> If you and the doctor don't decide on >> If you and the doctor don't decide on >> If you and the doctor don't decide on it, we're not pushing you. it, we're not pushing you. it, we're not pushing you. >> Period. It's you. So, what happened was >> Period. It's you. So, what happened was >> Period. It's you. So, what happened was is is a couple things. One, they screwed is is a couple things. One, they screwed is is a couple things. One, they screwed over their pharmacy. So, they lost over their pharmacy. So, they lost over their pharmacy. So, they lost Revive and some other things owing them Revive and some other things owing them Revive and some other things owing them millions of dollars. And the second millions of dollars. And the second millions of dollars. And the second thing is they lost their what's called thing is they lost their what's called thing is they lost their what's called the PC group owner. For people who don't the PC group owner. For people who don't the PC group owner. For people who don't understand, it's the the doctors, right? understand, it's the the doctors, right? understand, it's the the doctors, right? So, Transcend is an MSO, which is a a So, Transcend is an MSO, which is a a So, Transcend is an MSO, which is a a services organization, and then the services organization, and then the services organization, and then the medical group, the main doctor, won a medical group, the main doctor, won a medical group, the main doctor, won a lawsuit against Transcend, um, to where lawsuit against Transcend, um, to where lawsuit against Transcend, um, to where Transcend couldn't contact patients Transcend couldn't contact patients Transcend couldn't contact patients anymore or do anything like that. And by anymore or do anything like that. And by anymore or do anything like that. And by the way, this is all public knowledge. the way, this is all public knowledge. the way, this is all public knowledge. It's all out on the web. You guys can It's all out on the web. You guys can It's all out on the web. You guys can look up the cases. look up the cases. look up the cases. >> So, Transcend >> So, Transcend >> So, Transcend essentially can't even fulfill pharmacy. essentially can't even fulfill pharmacy. essentially can't even fulfill pharmacy. They can't refund. They can't do They can't refund. They can't do They can't refund. They can't do anything. They can't talk to people anything. They can't talk to people anything. They can't talk to people right now. So right now. So right now. So >> that's why they're ghosting everybody. >> that's why they're ghosting everybody. >> that's why they're ghosting everybody. >> That's why they're ghosting everybody. >> That's why they're ghosting everybody. >> That's why they're ghosting everybody. Correct. And so Correct. And so Correct. And so >> it is [ __ ] Christmas every day for >> it is [ __ ] Christmas every day for >> it is [ __ ] Christmas every day for people like us in this industry is is people like us in this industry is is people like us in this industry is is Transcend had so many patients. So many Transcend had so many patients. So many Transcend had so many patients. So many patients that didn't even know what they patients that didn't even know what they patients that didn't even know what they were paying by the way. And so I hired a were paying by the way. And so I hired a were paying by the way. And so I hired a number of the transcend people. We got number of the transcend people. We got number of the transcend people. We got them down in from from Michigan down to them down in from from Michigan down to them down in from from Michigan down to Arizona. And we are on boarding Arizona. And we are on boarding Arizona. And we are on boarding a number of patient. By the way, my a number of patient. By the way, my a number of patient. By the way, my company has grown 300% in the last few company has grown 300% in the last few company has grown 300% in the last few weeks. weeks. weeks. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I just And so we just >> I just And so we just >> I just And so we just >> No wonder you're smiling so bad. >> No wonder you're smiling so bad. >> No wonder you're smiling so bad. >> So we we are and and the patients are >> So we we are and and the patients are >> So we we are and and the patients are coming in and literally this is these coming in and literally this is these coming in and literally this is these are I have so many cool things. I'll are I have so many cool things. I'll are I have so many cool things. I'll give you guys some of this content so give you guys some of this content so give you guys some of this content so you guys can like post like these are you guys can like post like these are you guys can like post like these are like real text messages. We'll redact like real text messages. We'll redact like real text messages. We'll redact the names. And they're like, "Yeah, so the names. And they're like, "Yeah, so the names. And they're like, "Yeah, so I'm paying $5,000 a quarter for my Tesla I'm paying $5,000 a quarter for my Tesla I'm paying $5,000 a quarter for my Tesla Morland treatment." One more time. Three Morland treatment." One more time. Three Morland treatment." One more time. Three months of Tesla Morland is $5,000. Yeah. months of Tesla Morland is $5,000. Yeah. months of Tesla Morland is $5,000. Yeah. And he's like, "How much is it gonna be And he's like, "How much is it gonna be And he's like, "How much is it gonna be with you guys?" Because I don't want to with you guys?" Because I don't want to with you guys?" Because I don't want to I want to keep the pricing the same. I I want to keep the pricing the same. I I want to keep the pricing the same. I was like, "Unfortunately, it's 900. was like, "Unfortunately, it's 900. was like, "Unfortunately, it's 900. We're not going to be able to get to the We're not going to be able to get to the We're not going to be able to get to the $5,000 mark." $5,000 mark." $5,000 mark." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so, and by the way, I'm making money >> And so, and by the way, I'm making money >> And so, and by the way, I'm making money at 900. at 900. at 900. >> But, but why why do you need to >> But, but why why do you need to >> But, but why why do you need to overcharge? Why do you need to do these overcharge? Why do you need to do these overcharge? Why do you need to do these things? It was crazy. But the big things things? It was crazy. But the big things things? It was crazy. But the big things with Transcend is I think they had the with Transcend is I think they had the with Transcend is I think they had the best education group. I'm gonna give it best education group. I'm gonna give it best education group. I'm gonna give it to them. like the customers that come to to them. like the customers that come to to them. like the customers that come to us and patients, us and patients, us and patients, >> they're educated because the sales >> they're educated because the sales >> they're educated because the sales people. Yeah. people. Yeah. people. Yeah. >> Well, it's because they've been >> Well, it's because they've been >> Well, it's because they've been listening to a podcast for 10 years listening to a podcast for 10 years listening to a podcast for 10 years forever forever forever >> who's been teaching them all about >> who's been teaching them all about >> who's been teaching them all about peptides for a long time. So, they come peptides for a long time. So, they come peptides for a long time. So, they come in educated. in educated. in educated. >> So, literally, I just get on the phone >> So, literally, I just get on the phone >> So, literally, I just get on the phone and they're like, "Yeah, I'll take BPC. and they're like, "Yeah, I'll take BPC. and they're like, "Yeah, I'll take BPC. I'll take Tessa Morland. I'll take CJC. I'll take Tessa Morland. I'll take CJC. I'll take Tessa Morland. I'll take CJC. I want to do a trib blend. give me some I want to do a trib blend. give me some I want to do a trib blend. give me some different like and it's such and I'm different like and it's such and I'm different like and it's such and I'm like the average spend per patient is like the average spend per patient is like the average spend per patient is 220% up with new patients and and it's 220% up with new patients and and it's 220% up with new patients and and it's been been been >> the greatest thing that's ever happened >> the greatest thing that's ever happened >> the greatest thing that's ever happened to my company and um one I couldn't be to my company and um one I couldn't be to my company and um one I couldn't be more thankful to all of you guys um I more thankful to all of you guys um I more thankful to all of you guys um I know they owe you guys money I'm sure know they owe you guys money I'm sure know they owe you guys money I'm sure that we can figure out something for me that we can figure out something for me that we can figure out something for me to take over to take over to take over >> now we're more I think we're more uh >> now we're more I think we're more uh >> now we're more I think we're more uh >> I was waiting for this >> I was waiting for this >> I was waiting for this >> less about live negotiations by the way >> less about live negotiations by the way >> less about live negotiations by the way >> less less about the money and the thing >> less less about the money and the thing >> less less about the money and the thing that you know I've I've had I think I'm that you know I've I've had I think I'm that you know I've I've had I think I'm up to 13 or 14 calls with other up to 13 or 14 calls with other up to 13 or 14 calls with other companies that have all been in bidding companies that have all been in bidding companies that have all been in bidding wars and for me it's it's less than it's wars and for me it's it's less than it's wars and for me it's it's less than it's a black eye for us you know we built a black eye for us you know we built a black eye for us you know we built this uh not with the intent to uh sell this uh not with the intent to uh sell this uh not with the intent to uh sell peptides supplements or anything else peptides supplements or anything else peptides supplements or anything else like that like uh we're we're in the like that like uh we're we're in the like that like uh we're we're in the business of training clients helping business of training clients helping business of training clients helping them with nutrition getting them in good them with nutrition getting them in good them with nutrition getting them in good shape changing their behaviors healthy shape changing their behaviors healthy shape changing their behaviors healthy foods that type of stuff and yes we have foods that type of stuff and yes we have foods that type of stuff and yes we have a large audience that loves all those a large audience that loves all those a large audience that loves all those And so it made sense to look for a And so it made sense to look for a And so it made sense to look for a company to partner with. But man, we company to partner with. But man, we company to partner with. But man, we they all those people have been dumped they all those people have been dumped they all those people have been dumped onto our I got a forum that's got 20,000 onto our I got a forum that's got 20,000 onto our I got a forum that's got 20,000 peptide users in it of our people. peptide users in it of our people. peptide users in it of our people. 20,000 that they just left out hanging 20,000 that they just left out hanging 20,000 that they just left out hanging that are just that are furious at us, that are just that are furious at us, that are just that are furious at us, you know, and they have no idea how much you know, and they have no idea how much you know, and they have no idea how much money they owe us and how screwed we got money they owe us and how screwed we got money they owe us and how screwed we got out of the deal. And it's like I mean, out of the deal. And it's like I mean, out of the deal. And it's like I mean, I'd love to to refund all you people. I I'd love to to refund all you people. I I'd love to to refund all you people. I I'll go bankrupt refunding all of you I'll go bankrupt refunding all of you I'll go bankrupt refunding all of you guys on what they owe you. And so for guys on what they owe you. And so for guys on what they owe you. And so for me, it's like I'm so hesitant and I and me, it's like I'm so hesitant and I and me, it's like I'm so hesitant and I and I also come from the medical marijuana I also come from the medical marijuana I also come from the medical marijuana space. So I did that for 3 years and I space. So I did that for 3 years and I space. So I did that for 3 years and I know how difficult is. A lot of patients know how difficult is. A lot of patients know how difficult is. A lot of patients don't know. They don't know the stress don't know. They don't know the stress don't know. They don't know the stress that you have to go through when that you have to go through when that you have to go through when legislation changed or now you can't do legislation changed or now you can't do legislation changed or now you can't do this and it's like that delay sometimes this and it's like that delay sometimes this and it's like that delay sometimes prescriptions or so that and then people prescriptions or so that and then people prescriptions or so that and then people get and they don't get mad at you guys, get and they don't get mad at you guys, get and they don't get mad at you guys, they get mad at us because we're the they get mad at us because we're the they get mad at us because we're the ones who introduce that. And so that's ones who introduce that. And so that's ones who introduce that. And so that's it's been a a massive headache for us. it's been a a massive headache for us. it's been a a massive headache for us. And I go back and forth on do I even And I go back and forth on do I even And I go back and forth on do I even want to f with it? Because it's like uh want to f with it? Because it's like uh want to f with it? Because it's like uh to to risk another black eye on our to to risk another black eye on our to to risk another black eye on our company when that's not what we do. company when that's not what we do. company when that's not what we do. >> Uh although I recognize that there's a >> Uh although I recognize that there's a >> Uh although I recognize that there's a massive amount of people that it changes massive amount of people that it changes massive amount of people that it changes their lives. And I use hormone their lives. And I use hormone their lives. And I use hormone replacement therapy and have for 15 plus replacement therapy and have for 15 plus replacement therapy and have for 15 plus years and know what it's been for me. years and know what it's been for me. years and know what it's been for me. And so, yeah, it's like this uh it's an And so, yeah, it's like this uh it's an And so, yeah, it's like this uh it's an it's an unfortunate challenge and it's an unfortunate challenge and it's an unfortunate challenge and position that we've been put in and and position that we've been put in and and position that we've been put in and and I'm not sure how we solve it yet. And I'm not sure how we solve it yet. And I'm not sure how we solve it yet. And so, we've been really slow to decide on so, we've been really slow to decide on so, we've been really slow to decide on what we're going to do cuz there's not a what we're going to do cuz there's not a what we're going to do cuz there's not a lot lot lot >> I think you should hurry up. This is not >> I think you should hurry up. This is not >> I think you should hurry up. This is not this is not an IQ test. We're the right this is not an IQ test. We're the right this is not an IQ test. We're the right company. Um and uh very simple. No, I company. Um and uh very simple. No, I company. Um and uh very simple. No, I >> there's so many bad actors in the space, >> there's so many bad actors in the space, >> there's so many bad actors in the space, which that's also reminds me of and and which that's also reminds me of and and which that's also reminds me of and and can you agree or not agree? I mean, can you agree or not agree? I mean, can you agree or not agree? I mean, >> I think that's a bad actors. That's a >> I think that's a bad actors. That's a >> I think that's a bad actors. That's a very kind of you. Yeah, very kind of you. Yeah, very kind of you. Yeah, >> Bad Actors is very kind. I think there's >> Bad Actors is very kind. I think there's >> Bad Actors is very kind. I think there's [ __ ] pigs. [ __ ] pigs. [ __ ] pigs. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> they are. There's people that are more >> they are. There's people that are more >> they are. There's people that are more worried about money. That's the one worried about money. That's the one worried about money. That's the one thing that's cool is I don't give a [ __ ] thing that's cool is I don't give a [ __ ] thing that's cool is I don't give a [ __ ] about money. I'll wear $20 t-shirts and about money. I'll wear $20 t-shirts and about money. I'll wear $20 t-shirts and sweaters all day long. I made the money. sweaters all day long. I made the money. sweaters all day long. I made the money. >> I worked at Cisco. I did the I did the >> I worked at Cisco. I did the I did the >> I worked at Cisco. I did the I did the >> the thing and now it's like my legacy to >> the thing and now it's like my legacy to >> the thing and now it's like my legacy to give back. I think one of the cool give back. I think one of the cool give back. I think one of the cool things about Vitabella, and I'm going to things about Vitabella, and I'm going to things about Vitabella, and I'm going to screw myself by saying this live on here screw myself by saying this live on here screw myself by saying this live on here because I know some jag off Karen's because I know some jag off Karen's because I know some jag off Karen's going to ruin this for me, but since going to ruin this for me, but since going to ruin this for me, but since we've opened the company, since the we've opened the company, since the we've opened the company, since the founding of the company, we're a 100% founding of the company, we're a 100% founding of the company, we're a 100% fivestar reviewed company. We don't have fivestar reviewed company. We don't have fivestar reviewed company. We don't have a single fourstar review. a single fourstar review. a single fourstar review. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> One period fact. >> One period fact. >> One period fact. >> And so another thing is everybody is is >> And so another thing is everybody is is >> And so another thing is everybody is is quick to on board you, right? They want quick to on board you, right? They want quick to on board you, right? They want to just get your money. They want to to just get your money. They want to to just get your money. They want to sell you. They want to get you in front sell you. They want to get you in front sell you. They want to get you in front of a doctor and spend like 5 10 minutes of a doctor and spend like 5 10 minutes of a doctor and spend like 5 10 minutes with you and get you what you want with you and get you what you want with you and get you what you want because that's what they want. Order. because that's what they want. Order. because that's what they want. Order. And we force you to spend 45 minutes And we force you to spend 45 minutes And we force you to spend 45 minutes with a doc. Go through everything. with a doc. Go through everything. with a doc. Go through everything. Really understand everything about Really understand everything about Really understand everything about yourself so that when you leave that yourself so that when you leave that yourself so that when you leave that phone call, you leave that conversation phone call, you leave that conversation phone call, you leave that conversation that you're empowered. You you you truly that you're empowered. You you you truly that you're empowered. You you you truly understand what you're getting. And I understand what you're getting. And I understand what you're getting. And I think that's where we've lost medicine think that's where we've lost medicine think that's where we've lost medicine is one doctors have become so quick to is one doctors have become so quick to is one doctors have become so quick to prescribe [ __ ] medicine. And more prescribe [ __ ] medicine. And more prescribe [ __ ] medicine. And more importantly, how many times we asked importantly, how many times we asked importantly, how many times we asked that you don't even know why you're that you don't even know why you're that you don't even know why you're taking something. Yeah. taking something. Yeah. taking something. Yeah. >> So you don't you just take this I take >> So you don't you just take this I take >> So you don't you just take this I take this pill once a day, okay, and it'll this pill once a day, okay, and it'll this pill once a day, okay, and it'll make me feel better. No one no make me feel better. No one no make me feel better. No one no mechanism, no what it does, no mechanism, no what it does, no mechanism, no what it does, no explanation, no education, explanation, no education, explanation, no education, >> right? They don't have this for the >> right? They don't have this for the >> right? They don't have this for the normal when you're sick kind of group, normal when you're sick kind of group, normal when you're sick kind of group, right? There's no three guys sitting in right? There's no three guys sitting in right? There's no three guys sitting in a room. Let me tell you about what uh a room. Let me tell you about what uh a room. Let me tell you about what uh >> you know that a Zpack does. Like there's >> you know that a Zpack does. Like there's >> you know that a Zpack does. Like there's no one doing that. So it's there's bad no one doing that. So it's there's bad no one doing that. So it's there's bad actors everywhere. I think that actors everywhere. I think that actors everywhere. I think that >> there are a lot of good people though, >> there are a lot of good people though, >> there are a lot of good people though, too. too. too. >> Yeah. Did Did S tell you the story on >> Yeah. Did Did S tell you the story on >> Yeah. Did Did S tell you the story on how we got to transcend? How that how we got to transcend? How that how we got to transcend? How that happened? It didn't. happened? It didn't. happened? It didn't. >> So, we originally started uh with Dr. >> So, we originally started uh with Dr. >> So, we originally started uh with Dr. Rand and his team. Rand and his team. Rand and his team. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And a lot of respect for them. >> And a lot of respect for them. >> And a lot of respect for them. >> Regenerative. >> Regenerative. >> Regenerative. >> Yeah. Regenerative. And they're a brick >> Yeah. Regenerative. And they're a brick >> Yeah. Regenerative. And they're a brick and mortar though. and mortar though. and mortar though. >> They're a small brick and mortar. And uh >> They're a small brick and mortar. And uh >> They're a small brick and mortar. And uh that was the experience we had like the that was the experience we had like the that was the experience we had like the every patient saw a doctor and got a every patient saw a doctor and got a every patient saw a doctor and got a meeting. Excellent. meeting. Excellent. meeting. Excellent. >> The problem was that because they were a >> The problem was that because they were a >> The problem was that because they were a small brickandmortar operation, they small brickandmortar operation, they small brickandmortar operation, they couldn't handle our volume. So again, I couldn't handle our volume. So again, I couldn't handle our volume. So again, I was getting all these complaints of I was getting all these complaints of I was getting all these complaints of I can't get an appointment for 30 days. I can't get an appointment for 30 days. I can't get an appointment for 30 days. I you know, it's like and and but the you know, it's like and and but the you know, it's like and and but the service was amazing. Anyone who did get service was amazing. Anyone who did get service was amazing. Anyone who did get in was just like, "Oh my god, their team in was just like, "Oh my god, their team in was just like, "Oh my god, their team was so great. They walked me through was so great. They walked me through was so great. They walked me through everything. Feel really like they everything. Feel really like they everything. Feel really like they weren't getting oversold. It was just weren't getting oversold. It was just weren't getting oversold. It was just amazing." And so we the original problem amazing." And so we the original problem amazing." And so we the original problem we were trying to solve was not about we were trying to solve was not about we were trying to solve was not about the service side. It was now like who the service side. It was now like who the service side. It was now like who can handle our volume. Yeah. can handle our volume. Yeah. can handle our volume. Yeah. >> And so I began hunting for okay who who >> And so I began hunting for okay who who >> And so I began hunting for okay who who could handle our size. And at that time could handle our size. And at that time could handle our size. And at that time I didn't know anybody else besides I didn't know anybody else besides I didn't know anybody else besides transcend that could handle our sales transcend that could handle our sales transcend that could handle our sales volume. And so I was like, okay, let's volume. And so I was like, okay, let's volume. And so I was like, okay, let's do it. And it started off pretty good. do it. And it started off pretty good. do it. And it started off pretty good. We had a forum. We were we were making We had a forum. We were we were making We had a forum. We were we were making their doctor come in every single week their doctor come in every single week their doctor come in every single week and educate our audience that we were and educate our audience that we were and educate our audience that we were building and growing. And so for the building and growing. And so for the building and growing. And so for the first year or so uh when they were first year or so uh when they were first year or so uh when they were making hay and everything was great. It making hay and everything was great. It making hay and everything was great. It was not so bad. But then it quickly went was not so bad. But then it quickly went was not so bad. But then it quickly went downhill. It quickly turned into it downhill. It quickly turned into it downhill. It quickly turned into it looked like a a greedy thing of just looked like a a greedy thing of just looked like a a greedy thing of just selling them, no followup, no teaching selling them, no followup, no teaching selling them, no followup, no teaching them how to use it, no, it was just a a them how to use it, no, it was just a a them how to use it, no, it was just a a mill that they were turning. And so we mill that they were turning. And so we mill that they were turning. And so we got in this predicament of like we've got in this predicament of like we've got in this predicament of like we've had what amazing service is like and I had what amazing service is like and I had what amazing service is like and I know how important that is. But then know how important that is. But then know how important that is. But then we're also at this size where it's like we're also at this size where it's like we're also at this size where it's like we can't just go with a a manpaw who's we can't just go with a a manpaw who's we can't just go with a a manpaw who's going to handhold every single person or going to handhold every single person or going to handhold every single person or they need to be at a size where they can they need to be at a size where they can they need to be at a size where they can talk to that many patients. talk to that many patients. talk to that many patients. >> I think there's a blend where you can do >> I think there's a blend where you can do >> I think there's a blend where you can do both, right? And I don't even think I both, right? And I don't even think I both, right? And I don't even think I don't think you need to have VIP don't think you need to have VIP don't think you need to have VIP programs or any of that [ __ ] I think programs or any of that [ __ ] I think programs or any of that [ __ ] I think you want that. Go to Peteria. you want that. Go to Peteria. you want that. Go to Peteria. >> Go to one of those guys, right? pay your >> Go to one of those guys, right? pay your >> Go to one of those guys, right? pay your 100 grand, you want that type of 100 grand, you want that type of 100 grand, you want that type of service, pay for it. But if you're service, pay for it. But if you're service, pay for it. But if you're looking for really good service, really looking for really good service, really looking for really good service, really good prices. There's there's good good prices. There's there's good good prices. There's there's good companies out there that do it. I just companies out there that do it. I just companies out there that do it. I just think that they don't spend enough time think that they don't spend enough time think that they don't spend enough time actually caring about CS, right? Coming actually caring about CS, right? Coming actually caring about CS, right? Coming from Cisco, we were paid on CSI, from Cisco, we were paid on CSI, from Cisco, we were paid on CSI, customer success index. And so we need customer success index. And so we need customer success index. And so we need to make sure that people are happy. And to make sure that people are happy. And to make sure that people are happy. And and you guys, by the way, on any company and you guys, by the way, on any company and you guys, by the way, on any company you guys go to, that's how that's the you guys go to, that's how that's the you guys go to, that's how that's the true indication of success true indication of success true indication of success >> is are people happy? >> is are people happy? >> is are people happy? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And because they're not going to leave >> And because they're not going to leave >> And because they're not going to leave you, by the way, no one leaves you you, by the way, no one leaves you you, by the way, no one leaves you really for price. And if they do, let really for price. And if they do, let really for price. And if they do, let them go. them go. them go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. They leave you for two things. >> Right. They leave you for two things. >> Right. They leave you for two things. Results. Are they getting the results Results. Are they getting the results Results. Are they getting the results that they want? that they want? that they want? And when they call or email, do you pick And when they call or email, do you pick And when they call or email, do you pick up the phone? up the phone? up the phone? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> That's it. It's not hard to be >> That's it. It's not hard to be >> That's it. It's not hard to be successful. It's results and service. successful. It's results and service. successful. It's results and service. Are they getting their meds in a Are they getting their meds in a Are they getting their meds in a reasonable amount of time? We ship when reasonable amount of time? We ship when reasonable amount of time? We ship when the minute you get off the phone, our the minute you get off the phone, our the minute you get off the phone, our average ship time is 48 to 72 hours the average ship time is 48 to 72 hours the average ship time is 48 to 72 hours the front door. front door. front door. >> Wow. All 50 states. >> Wow. All 50 states. >> Wow. All 50 states. >> 40. >> 40. >> 40. >> 40 states. >> 40 states. >> 40 states. >> I can't do business in California. You I >> I can't do business in California. You I >> I can't do business in California. You I can't I can't really can't I can't really can't I can't really >> There's no I can't do it. >> There's no I can't do it. >> There's no I can't do it. >> This is the worst. >> This is the worst. >> This is the worst. >> It is the most We talk about laws. I'm >> It is the most We talk about laws. I'm >> It is the most We talk about laws. I'm out. I quit. It's in my bylaws. out. I quit. It's in my bylaws. out. I quit. It's in my bylaws. Someone's going to have to redo my Someone's going to have to redo my Someone's going to have to redo my entire operating agreement. entire operating agreement. entire operating agreement. >> Does that mean you don't service in >> Does that mean you don't service in >> Does that mean you don't service in California or they have to California or they have to California or they have to >> do service state of California? >> do service state of California? >> do service state of California? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I may turn it on. I've been very >> Yeah. I may turn it on. I've been very >> Yeah. I may turn it on. I've been very big ego of anti I have such bad big ego of anti I have such bad big ego of anti I have such bad experience with this state and it's just experience with this state and it's just experience with this state and it's just the legal system. Yeah. Right. You know, the legal system. Yeah. Right. You know, the legal system. Yeah. Right. You know, you show up and I always say every day, you show up and I always say every day, you show up and I always say every day, it's not an IQ test. It's an IQ test in it's not an IQ test. It's an IQ test in it's not an IQ test. It's an IQ test in California. California. California. >> It is. >> It is. >> It is. >> Well, it's a it's a smart it's a smart >> Well, it's a it's a smart it's a smart >> Well, it's a it's a smart it's a smart strategy uh on your part going back to strategy uh on your part going back to strategy uh on your part going back to if your metric is customer service and if your metric is customer service and if your metric is customer service and you know all the loopholes you have to you know all the loopholes you have to you know all the loopholes you have to go through in California and what a go through in California and what a go through in California and what a [ __ ] it is, you're going to and someone [ __ ] it is, you're going to and someone [ __ ] it is, you're going to and someone else might be going, "That's crazy. else might be going, "That's crazy. else might be going, "That's crazy. That's so much volume you're losing that That's so much volume you're losing that That's so much volume you're losing that it's like, yeah, but I'm going to have it's like, yeah, but I'm going to have it's like, yeah, but I'm going to have so many headaches so many headaches so many headaches >> and so many disgruntled patients that >> and so many disgruntled patients that >> and so many disgruntled patients that have no idea that it's not my fault and have no idea that it's not my fault and have no idea that it's not my fault and it's all this [ __ ] loopholes that I it's all this [ __ ] loopholes that I it's all this [ __ ] loopholes that I have to do. And so I it's probably have to do. And so I it's probably have to do. And so I it's probably >> Yeah, we had to get because we live in >> Yeah, we had to get because we live in >> Yeah, we had to get because we live in California obviously they would ship our California obviously they would ship our California obviously they would ship our stuff to a mailbox stuff to a mailbox stuff to a mailbox in Florida that would then we would in Florida that would then we would in Florida that would then we would forward all the way over here. forward all the way over here. forward all the way over here. >> Yeah. And and one illegal [ __ ] But >> Yeah. And and one illegal [ __ ] But >> Yeah. And and one illegal [ __ ] But anyways, it's um anyways, it's um anyways, it's um >> it's not that I I don't want to do >> it's not that I I don't want to do >> it's not that I I don't want to do business. I don't want to do that. business. I don't want to do that. business. I don't want to do that. >> I don't want to suffer. I don't want >> I don't want to suffer. I don't want >> I don't want to suffer. I don't want patients to suffer. Why do you need to patients to suffer. Why do you need to patients to suffer. Why do you need to go? And then you have to set up that go? And then you have to set up that go? And then you have to set up that mailbox. You have to do all of those mailbox. You have to do all of those mailbox. You have to do all of those additional loopholes. additional loopholes. additional loopholes. >> Why? There's so much damn business in >> Why? There's so much damn business in >> Why? There's so much damn business in this country. Let someone else deal with this country. Let someone else deal with this country. Let someone else deal with that headache. And they can specialize that headache. And they can specialize that headache. And they can specialize in headaches. in headaches. in headaches. >> And the people who specialize in >> And the people who specialize in >> And the people who specialize in headaches make good money. headaches make good money. headaches make good money. >> So what are the other ones? So you 40. >> So what are the other ones? So you 40. >> So what are the other ones? So you 40. So there's what are the other states So there's what are the other states So there's what are the other states besides California that are paying besides California that are paying besides California that are paying >> Hawaii, Alaska, New Jersey, Kansas, any >> Hawaii, Alaska, New Jersey, Kansas, any >> Hawaii, Alaska, New Jersey, Kansas, any you have CPOM where you need to have you have CPOM where you need to have you have CPOM where you need to have separate, you know, California requires separate, you know, California requires separate, you know, California requires a whole separate operating agreement, a whole separate operating agreement, a whole separate operating agreement, whole separate company. Same thing with whole separate company. Same thing with whole separate company. Same thing with New Jersey, whole separate company. Same New Jersey, whole separate company. Same New Jersey, whole separate company. Same thing with Kansas. thing with Kansas. thing with Kansas. >> So you have to start a whole another >> So you have to start a whole another >> So you have to start a whole another company over here. company over here. company over here. >> Just it needs to be an entirely separate >> Just it needs to be an entirely separate >> Just it needs to be an entirely separate company. There's three states that company. There's three states that company. There's three states that require that require that require that >> and then a couple of states that I'm >> and then a couple of states that I'm >> and then a couple of states that I'm just like the volume is not there. just like the volume is not there. just like the volume is not there. >> Okay. Yeah. And um >> Okay. Yeah. And um >> Okay. Yeah. And um >> this is probably the only one that you >> this is probably the only one that you >> this is probably the only one that you would consider maybe building an would consider maybe building an would consider maybe building an operation over here. operation over here. operation over here. >> It's the fourth largest economy in the >> It's the fourth largest economy in the >> It's the fourth largest economy in the world. I mean it's stupid of me to stay world. I mean it's stupid of me to stay world. I mean it's stupid of me to stay away from it. However, from an anxiety away from it. However, from an anxiety away from it. However, from an anxiety sleeping really good at night and sleeping really good at night and sleeping really good at night and feeling amazing like when I wake up in feeling amazing like when I wake up in feeling amazing like when I wake up in the morning, we still have California. the morning, we still have California. the morning, we still have California. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. >> I feel good about it. >> I feel good about it. >> I feel good about it. >> We run a business here. We know exactly. >> We run a business here. We know exactly. >> We run a business here. We know exactly. >> And so then the laws I mean it's it's >> And so then the laws I mean it's it's >> And so then the laws I mean it's it's crazy. So I I love by the way I did crazy. So I I love by the way I did crazy. So I I love by the way I did business here for the better half of my business here for the better half of my business here for the better half of my life life life >> and I I if I turned on California me >> and I I if I turned on California me >> and I I if I turned on California me being Cisco royalty from back I would being Cisco royalty from back I would being Cisco royalty from back I would have a triple I probably 10x the company have a triple I probably 10x the company have a triple I probably 10x the company >> but I'm not ready I'm not ready to deal >> but I'm not ready I'm not ready to deal >> but I'm not ready I'm not ready to deal with laws yet. I'm not ready to deal with laws yet. I'm not ready to deal with laws yet. I'm not ready to deal with California yet. with California yet. with California yet. >> I will literally open up a separate team >> I will literally open up a separate team >> I will literally open up a separate team >> to own and operate because I'm gonna >> to own and operate because I'm gonna >> to own and operate because I'm gonna need a separate pharmacy. So you can need a separate pharmacy. So you can need a separate pharmacy. So you can ship to California. You just need a ship to California. You just need a ship to California. You just need a separate pharmacy. that's in California. separate pharmacy. that's in California. separate pharmacy. that's in California. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Um you there's a lot of little things >> Um you there's a lot of little things >> Um you there's a lot of little things that you need to do and we've got it. that you need to do and we've got it. that you need to do and we've got it. I've got great guy. I was just on a I've got great guy. I was just on a I've got great guy. I was just on a podcast, Rick Nemi. Uh shout out for podcast, Rick Nemi. Uh shout out for podcast, Rick Nemi. Uh shout out for God's economy. Um and he he was uh he's God's economy. Um and he he was uh he's God's economy. Um and he he was uh he's got a pharmacy here and he's like, "What got a pharmacy here and he's like, "What got a pharmacy here and he's like, "What do you want me to do?" And I'm like, do you want me to do?" And I'm like, do you want me to do?" And I'm like, "I'm not ready, "I'm not ready, "I'm not ready, >> but when I'm ready, I will absolutely >> but when I'm ready, I will absolutely >> but when I'm ready, I will absolutely I'll absolutely turn it on." and and so I'll absolutely turn it on." and and so I'll absolutely turn it on." and and so I think and it's in discussion every day I think and it's in discussion every day I think and it's in discussion every day because it is it's a big economy for us because it is it's a big economy for us because it is it's a big economy for us but uh maybe in Q3 or Q4. but uh maybe in Q3 or Q4. but uh maybe in Q3 or Q4. >> So explain explain to me because I >> So explain explain to me because I >> So explain explain to me because I vaguely know the model. vaguely know the model. vaguely know the model. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um and I love that you're like a >> Um and I love that you're like a >> Um and I love that you're like a disruptor in the space because I think disruptor in the space because I think disruptor in the space because I think we think of ourselves as disruptors. we think of ourselves as disruptors. we think of ourselves as disruptors. >> Uh how does the how do the different >> Uh how does the how do the different >> Uh how does the how do the different tiers of memberships work and what comes tiers of memberships work and what comes tiers of memberships work and what comes with that? with that? with that? >> Yeah, it's a great question. One damn >> Yeah, it's a great question. One damn >> Yeah, it's a great question. One damn tier of membership. tier of membership. tier of membership. >> Oh, that's it. One 129 bucks a month. >> Oh, that's it. One 129 bucks a month. >> Oh, that's it. One 129 bucks a month. >> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. That can't >> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. That can't >> Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. That can't cover cover cover skin fit. skin fit. skin fit. >> Watch. Just watch. I got you. Okay, >> Watch. Just watch. I got you. Okay, >> Watch. Just watch. I got you. Okay, watch this. Here we go. 129 bucks a watch this. Here we go. 129 bucks a watch this. Here we go. 129 bucks a month. month. month. >> I'm right. Can't wait for this clothes. >> I'm right. Can't wait for this clothes. >> I'm right. Can't wait for this clothes. >> 129 bucks. I'm going to give it to you >> 129 bucks. I'm going to give it to you >> 129 bucks. I'm going to give it to you straight. Right, ladies and gentlemen. straight. Right, ladies and gentlemen. straight. Right, ladies and gentlemen. >> So 129 bucks a month. You only pay for >> So 129 bucks a month. You only pay for >> So 129 bucks a month. You only pay for your first doctor's visit, which is $99. your first doctor's visit, which is $99. your first doctor's visit, which is $99. 45minute consult. 15 minutes they review 45minute consult. 15 minutes they review 45minute consult. 15 minutes they review your labs. 15 minutes they go over your labs. 15 minutes they go over your labs. 15 minutes they go over health history and goals. Last 15 health history and goals. Last 15 health history and goals. Last 15 minutes they build a custom protocol. minutes they build a custom protocol. minutes they build a custom protocol. >> Okay. If you have labs in the last 6 >> Okay. If you have labs in the last 6 >> Okay. If you have labs in the last 6 months and they've got everything we months and they've got everything we months and they've got everything we need, we can use them. need, we can use them. need, we can use them. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> If you don't have labs, >> If you don't have labs, >> If you don't have labs, >> 250, >> 250, >> 250, >> get ready. No, we give you a full $1,100 >> get ready. No, we give you a full $1,100 >> get ready. No, we give you a full $1,100 Quest Diagnostics 34 biioarker panel for Quest Diagnostics 34 biioarker panel for Quest Diagnostics 34 biioarker panel for 89 bucks. Sh. 89 bucks. Sh. 89 bucks. Sh. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> If you want to upgrade to full >> If you want to upgrade to full >> If you want to upgrade to full comprehensive, $189. comprehensive, $189. comprehensive, $189. That's getting you everything from your That's getting you everything from your That's getting you everything from your IGF-1 levels, D, everything. IGF-1 levels, D, everything. IGF-1 levels, D, everything. >> Wow. So, you get that with us and then >> Wow. So, you get that with us and then >> Wow. So, you get that with us and then what do you get? $129 a month. You get what do you get? $129 a month. You get what do you get? $129 a month. You get all of your ongoing quarterly doctor's all of your ongoing quarterly doctor's all of your ongoing quarterly doctor's visits included. visits included. visits included. >> You get your choice included in the >> You get your choice included in the >> You get your choice included in the package for $129 bucks of injectable package for $129 bucks of injectable package for $129 bucks of injectable testosterone up to max dose incl. >> So, that comes with it. >> So, that comes with it. >> Comes with it for 129. You get your >> Comes with it for 129. You get your >> Comes with it for 129. You get your testosterone included 129. But here's testosterone included 129. But here's testosterone included 129. But here's where the clincher is. So, you get the where the clincher is. So, you get the where the clincher is. So, you get the testosterone, you get everything. And by testosterone, you get everything. And by testosterone, you get everything. And by the way, we just did this. We just the way, we just did this. We just the way, we just did this. We just started and added in the meds recently. started and added in the meds recently. started and added in the meds recently. Prior to that, no meds included. What do Prior to that, no meds included. What do Prior to that, no meds included. What do you get? You get your doc visits. And you get? You get your doc visits. And you get? You get your doc visits. And then you get access to our war chest of then you get access to our war chest of then you get access to our war chest of medication when you're on the phone with medication when you're on the phone with medication when you're on the phone with the docs at wholesale pricing. And you the docs at wholesale pricing. And you the docs at wholesale pricing. And you get to treat everything from weight get to treat everything from weight get to treat everything from weight loss, hormone therapy, peptide therapy, loss, hormone therapy, peptide therapy, loss, hormone therapy, peptide therapy, skin care, anti-aging, injury and skin care, anti-aging, injury and skin care, anti-aging, injury and recovery, hair loss, you name it. the recovery, hair loss, you name it. the recovery, hair loss, you name it. the plethora gambit of narcissism and plethora gambit of narcissism and plethora gambit of narcissism and self-esteem. self-esteem. self-esteem. >> Okay? >> Okay? >> Okay? >> And your meds get shipped to your front >> And your meds get shipped to your front >> And your meds get shipped to your front door 4872 hours, 24 hours a day, 6 day a door 4872 hours, 24 hours a day, 6 day a door 4872 hours, 24 hours a day, 6 day a week clinical care team at all times. week clinical care team at all times. week clinical care team at all times. We're online. Sunday is a day of God. He We're online. Sunday is a day of God. He We're online. Sunday is a day of God. He rested and so do we. rested and so do we. rested and so do we. >> So, okay. So, okay, let me get this >> So, okay. So, okay, let me get this >> So, okay. So, okay, let me get this clear then. So, 129 is it get takes care clear then. So, 129 is it get takes care clear then. So, 129 is it get takes care of like which is takes care of me. of like which is takes care of me. of like which is takes care of me. That's what I need to take. That's what I need to take. That's what I need to take. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But let let's say I decide that I want >> But let let's say I decide that I want >> But let let's say I decide that I want to uh I need BBC. I need something else. to uh I need BBC. I need something else. to uh I need BBC. I need something else. So then is it all a cart? Is that So then is it all a cart? Is that So then is it all a cart? Is that >> It's all a cart, non-subscription. You >> It's all a cart, non-subscription. You >> It's all a cart, non-subscription. You get to pick. We've got a patient portal. get to pick. We've got a patient portal. get to pick. We've got a patient portal. You can go on and click refill, click You can go on and click refill, click You can go on and click refill, click request meds. Very clean, very request meds. Very clean, very request meds. Very clean, very intuitive. intuitive. intuitive. >> Come from tech. It should be good. >> Come from tech. It should be good. >> Come from tech. It should be good. >> Um but yeah, you just go on and click >> Um but yeah, you just go on and click >> Um but yeah, you just go on and click what you want. We don't do BPC anymore. what you want. We don't do BPC anymore. what you want. We don't do BPC anymore. We moved over to PDA. We moved over to PDA. We moved over to PDA. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um but yeah, I mean there's uh it's very >> Um but yeah, I mean there's uh it's very >> Um but yeah, I mean there's uh it's very simple. simple. simple. >> It's just a precursor to that, right? >> It's just a precursor to that, right? >> It's just a precursor to that, right? >> No, >> No, >> No, >> PDA is great. This is great for the pod. >> PDA is great. This is great for the pod. >> PDA is great. This is great for the pod. So PDA, we replace BPCA So PDA, we replace BPCA So PDA, we replace BPCA originate. Yeah, right. originate. Yeah, right. originate. Yeah, right. >> No, it's the same thing. It's just >> No, it's the same thing. It's just >> No, it's the same thing. It's just attached to a different attached to a different attached to a different >> 15. Yeah, it's the same 15 chain amino >> 15. Yeah, it's the same 15 chain amino >> 15. Yeah, it's the same 15 chain amino acid except arginate at the end instead acid except arginate at the end instead acid except arginate at the end instead of acetate and all the studies have of acetate and all the studies have of acetate and all the studies have shown better absorption, better shown better absorption, better shown better absorption, better halflife, better everything. And uh halflife, better everything. And uh halflife, better everything. And uh patients have loved it. patients have loved it. patients have loved it. >> Yeah. Yeah, I've used I've used both. >> Yeah. Yeah, I've used I've used both. >> Yeah. Yeah, I've used I've used both. Yeah. Yeah, I have that. Wow, that Yeah. Yeah, I have that. Wow, that Yeah. Yeah, I have that. Wow, that sounds so what's cool about that because sounds so what's cool about that because sounds so what's cool about that because one of the things about this space is uh one of the things about this space is uh one of the things about this space is uh like what's going to happen in the like what's going to happen in the like what's going to happen in the future even though it's it's future even though it's it's future even though it's it's prescription peptides the FDA and big prescription peptides the FDA and big prescription peptides the FDA and big pharma seem to be they don't like the pharma seem to be they don't like the pharma seem to be they don't like the compoundies compoundies compoundies >> they don't like the compoundies because >> they don't like the compoundies because >> they don't like the compoundies because they want their brand name they want to they want their brand name they want to they want their brand name they want to be able to control things uh and this be able to control things uh and this be able to control things uh and this all of course with the popularity in my all of course with the popularity in my all of course with the popularity in my opinion with the popularity of GLP1s opinion with the popularity of GLP1s opinion with the popularity of GLP1s this really pissed them off that you this really pissed them off that you this really pissed them off that you know you go buy Ompic it costs this much know you go buy Ompic it costs this much know you go buy Ompic it costs this much but you can go get some aglutide uh from but you can go get some aglutide uh from but you can go get some aglutide uh from a compound pharmacy for much less. a compound pharmacy for much less. a compound pharmacy for much less. >> Uh but the way you've set up your >> Uh but the way you've set up your >> Uh but the way you've set up your company, it's very easy for you to sell company, it's very easy for you to sell company, it's very easy for you to sell this at some point because you've got this at some point because you've got this at some point because you've got monthly reoccurring revenue. monthly reoccurring revenue. monthly reoccurring revenue. >> Yeah. SASbased business. >> Yeah. SASbased business. >> Yeah. SASbased business. >> That's what I'm saying is that so so >> That's what I'm saying is that so so >> That's what I'm saying is that so so you've actually got an exit potentially you've actually got an exit potentially you've actually got an exit potentially whereas a lot of these other companies whereas a lot of these other companies whereas a lot of these other companies I'm like how are you guys going to move? I'm like how are you guys going to move? I'm like how are you guys going to move? >> What are you going to show? >> What are you going to show? >> What are you going to show? >> I'm a businessman. Okay. >> I'm a businessman. Okay. >> I'm a businessman. Okay. >> Absolutely. I'm a businessman at heart. >> Absolutely. I'm a businessman at heart. >> Absolutely. I'm a businessman at heart. >> Okay. and and it is absolutely built for >> Okay. and and it is absolutely built for >> Okay. and and it is absolutely built for you to show your IBIDA and for you to you to show your IBIDA and for you to you to show your IBIDA and for you to show your growth and for you to have show your growth and for you to have show your growth and for you to have predictable revenue. It also allows me predictable revenue. It also allows me predictable revenue. It also allows me to continue to offer our price points to continue to offer our price points to continue to offer our price points the way that we do the way that we do the way that we do >> is because I can predict revenue which >> is because I can predict revenue which >> is because I can predict revenue which allows me to predict on the operating allows me to predict on the operating allows me to predict on the operating expenses. I can grow. So I do not expenses. I can grow. So I do not expenses. I can grow. So I do not outgrow my membership just in basic outgrow my membership just in basic outgrow my membership just in basic opex. So I'll never have the problems opex. So I'll never have the problems opex. So I'll never have the problems that these other companies when they, that these other companies when they, that these other companies when they, you know, when you get slow seasons, you know, when you get slow seasons, you know, when you get slow seasons, when you go into summer, people aren't when you go into summer, people aren't when you go into summer, people aren't ordering enough, then you're going into ordering enough, then you're going into ordering enough, then you're going into like cuz you get seasons within this like cuz you get seasons within this like cuz you get seasons within this industry. industry. industry. >> Yours is consistent. >> Yours is consistent. >> Yours is consistent. >> I'm a consistent industry as far as the >> I'm a consistent industry as far as the >> I'm a consistent industry as far as the the membership is concerned. And then we the membership is concerned. And then we the membership is concerned. And then we offer the meds at crazy prices. I mean, offer the meds at crazy prices. I mean, offer the meds at crazy prices. I mean, it for pharmaceutical it for pharmaceutical it for pharmaceutical FDA licensed and approved medications, FDA licensed and approved medications, FDA licensed and approved medications, there's nothing like the pricing. It there's nothing like the pricing. It there's nothing like the pricing. It doesn't exist. doesn't exist. doesn't exist. >> Wow. And what do you think about the >> Wow. And what do you think about the >> Wow. And what do you think about the what I said about the future with the what I said about the future with the what I said about the future with the with big pharma trying to is that a with big pharma trying to is that a with big pharma trying to is that a constant battle? constant battle? constant battle? >> Are you able to are you still able to do >> Are you able to are you still able to do >> Are you able to are you still able to do compounded GLPs or those did they take compounded GLPs or those did they take compounded GLPs or those did they take those off? those off? those off? >> Everything that's currently available is >> Everything that's currently available is >> Everything that's currently available is still available. still available. still available. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> I should say let me rephrase that. >> I should say let me rephrase that. >> I should say let me rephrase that. Everything that was available is still Everything that was available is still Everything that was available is still currently available. currently available. currently available. >> So trappepite some. >> So trappepite some. >> So trappepite some. >> Oh, I didn't know that. I thought Eli >> Oh, I didn't know that. I thought Eli >> Oh, I didn't know that. I thought Eli Liy shut that down. They're trying. So Liy shut that down. They're trying. So Liy shut that down. They're trying. So this is great. We guys can put this up this is great. We guys can put this up this is great. We guys can put this up here. Put the put the readout up. Is here. Put the put the readout up. Is here. Put the put the readout up. Is strive strive strive sued Eli Liy. sued Eli Liy. sued Eli Liy. >> Strive pharmacy out of Arizona >> Strive pharmacy out of Arizona >> Strive pharmacy out of Arizona >> sued Eli Liy one. So, pardon me. Pause >> sued Eli Liy one. So, pardon me. Pause >> sued Eli Liy one. So, pardon me. Pause that. Eli Liy. Eli Liy and and the that. Eli Liy. Eli Liy and and the that. Eli Liy. Eli Liy and and the pharmaceutical companies sued Strive. pharmaceutical companies sued Strive. pharmaceutical companies sued Strive. Strive one. Now Strive is suing Eli Liy Strive one. Now Strive is suing Eli Liy Strive one. Now Strive is suing Eli Liy and the other pharmaceutical. They're and the other pharmaceutical. They're and the other pharmaceutical. They're going on the offense now. going on the offense now. going on the offense now. >> Whoa. Wow. >> Whoa. Wow. >> Whoa. Wow. >> Yeah. This is huge news by the way for >> Yeah. This is huge news by the way for >> Yeah. This is huge news by the way for our industry. our industry. our industry. >> This is massive. Yeah. >> This is massive. Yeah. >> This is massive. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's big news for our >> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's big news for our >> Yeah. Yeah. So, it's big news for our industry. They are actively suing big industry. They are actively suing big industry. They are actively suing big pharma for trying to mitigate the pharma for trying to mitigate the pharma for trying to mitigate the industry and trying to come down on industry and trying to come down on industry and trying to come down on compoundingies cuz there is a need there compoundingies cuz there is a need there compoundingies cuz there is a need there is a need for certain meds to be is a need for certain meds to be is a need for certain meds to be compounded and if you have the right compounded and if you have the right compounded and if you have the right prescription and you have the right use prescription and you have the right use prescription and you have the right use cases cases cases >> in particular GLP-1s in my opinion what >> in particular GLP-1s in my opinion what >> in particular GLP-1s in my opinion what what we have found with GLP1s is most what we have found with GLP1s is most what we have found with GLP1s is most these patients these patients these patients >> dosing >> dosing >> dosing >> our dosing is way too high. >> our dosing is way too high. >> our dosing is way too high. >> Yeah. you get almost every single we we >> Yeah. you get almost every single we we >> Yeah. you get almost every single we we did a thing last year where uh and it did a thing last year where uh and it did a thing last year where uh and it was just for us for educational was just for us for educational was just for us for educational purposes. We took on 50 GLP1 clients purposes. We took on 50 GLP1 clients purposes. We took on 50 GLP1 clients that the three of us met with them that the three of us met with them that the three of us met with them weekly and coach them through their weekly and coach them through their weekly and coach them through their their weight loss journey. Almost every their weight loss journey. Almost every their weight loss journey. Almost every single one of them their dosing was off. single one of them their dosing was off. single one of them their dosing was off. Too high. Too high. Too high. >> Too high. I can't eat. >> Too high. I can't eat. >> Too high. I can't eat. >> Yeah. Too high. And you wonder why they >> Yeah. Too high. And you wonder why they >> Yeah. Too high. And you wonder why they become skinny fat, become skinny fat, become skinny fat, >> right? And it's like you these people >> right? And it's like you these people >> right? And it's like you these people can't hit protein intake and lift can't hit protein intake and lift can't hit protein intake and lift weights like on these this like it's weights like on these this like it's weights like on these this like it's crazy. But they're getting these already crazy. But they're getting these already crazy. But they're getting these already preloaded. This is your dose or a doctor preloaded. This is your dose or a doctor preloaded. This is your dose or a doctor starting them off at this super do. So starting them off at this super do. So starting them off at this super do. So yeah, that it's uh it's interesting that yeah, that it's uh it's interesting that yeah, that it's uh it's interesting that there's there's uh that Eli Liy and them there's there's uh that Eli Liy and them there's there's uh that Eli Liy and them even have a case because you there's so even have a case because you there's so even have a case because you there's so many patients that we have seen that many patients that we have seen that many patients that we have seen that absolutely shouldn't even be at that absolutely shouldn't even be at that absolutely shouldn't even be at that dosage. And and by the way, the dosage. And and by the way, the dosage. And and by the way, the political climate cuz you know I I political climate cuz you know I I political climate cuz you know I I because I follow the space, you know, because I follow the space, you know, because I follow the space, you know, it's like one second it looks good this it's like one second it looks good this it's like one second it looks good this way, then it looks that way. But the way, then it looks that way. But the way, then it looks that way. But the political climate seems favorable for political climate seems favorable for political climate seems favorable for you guys with RFK. Uh cuz he's pro you guys with RFK. Uh cuz he's pro you guys with RFK. Uh cuz he's pro compoundies. compoundies. compoundies. >> I see RFK all the time. >> I see RFK all the time. >> I see RFK all the time. >> You do? >> You do? >> You do? >> I do. Yeah. He works out at my gym in >> I do. Yeah. He works out at my gym in >> I do. Yeah. He works out at my gym in Arizona. Arizona. Arizona. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So So he's he's pro like compoundies >> So So he's he's pro like compoundies >> So So he's he's pro like compoundies like this. like this. like this. >> He's pro compound pharmacy. He's pro >> He's pro compound pharmacy. He's pro >> He's pro compound pharmacy. He's pro mushroom. He's pro everything. Okay. Let mushroom. He's pro everything. Okay. Let mushroom. He's pro everything. Okay. Let me tell you. I I can tell that I bet you me tell you. I I can tell that I bet you me tell you. I I can tell that I bet you mushrooms mushrooms mushrooms >> get approval before any peptide or >> get approval before any peptide or >> get approval before any peptide or anything else. I think that's number one anything else. I think that's number one anything else. I think that's number one for for for >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen >> Sorry, RFK. >> Sorry, RFK. >> Sorry, RFK. >> Yeah. No, I've seen the studies on that >> Yeah. No, I've seen the studies on that >> Yeah. No, I've seen the studies on that with the with PTSD and all that stuff. with the with PTSD and all that stuff. with the with PTSD and all that stuff. >> I would go back to your GLP1 statement. >> I would go back to your GLP1 statement. >> I would go back to your GLP1 statement. I think it should be illegal to I think it should be illegal to I think it should be illegal to prescribe GLP-1s by themselves. prescribe GLP-1s by themselves. prescribe GLP-1s by themselves. >> I'm going to say what I said for >> I'm going to say what I said for >> I'm going to say what I said for everybody. It should be illegal to everybody. It should be illegal to everybody. It should be illegal to prescribe GLP-1s by themselves prescribe GLP-1s by themselves prescribe GLP-1s by themselves >> because one you're dosing so you're >> because one you're dosing so you're >> because one you're dosing so you're going to go catabolic any no matter what going to go catabolic any no matter what going to go catabolic any no matter what you do you're going to go catabolic you do you're going to go catabolic you do you're going to go catabolic period you guys know that you're going period you guys know that you're going period you guys know that you're going to go catabolic you have to put some to go catabolic you have to put some to go catabolic you have to put some sort of GHR and IGF something else to sort of GHR and IGF something else to sort of GHR and IGF something else to pair it you have to pair it you have to pair it you have to >> so you're putting some kind of an >> so you're putting some kind of an >> so you're putting some kind of an anabolic like peptide in combination anabolic like peptide in combination anabolic like peptide in combination with with with >> you have to if you're a man testosterone >> you have to if you're a man testosterone >> you have to if you're a man testosterone right if you're deficient if you're right if you're deficient if you're right if you're deficient if you're younger and clomophene if younger and clomophene if younger and clomophene if >> and you have to give them so how many >> and you have to give them so how many >> and you have to give them so how many people like all these companies, they people like all these companies, they people like all these companies, they just prescribe the GOP1. There's no just prescribe the GOP1. There's no just prescribe the GOP1. There's no nutrition, no like eat one gram, one nutrition, no like eat one gram, one nutrition, no like eat one gram, one gram of protein. There's nothing. gram of protein. There's nothing. gram of protein. There's nothing. There's no workout regimen. There's no There's no workout regimen. There's no There's no workout regimen. There's no What the [ __ ] do you think is going to What the [ __ ] do you think is going to What the [ __ ] do you think is going to happen to you when you're not eating happen to you when you're not eating happen to you when you're not eating food, you're not lifting weight, and food, you're not lifting weight, and food, you're not lifting weight, and you're not getting your protein? Now, you're not getting your protein? Now, you're not getting your protein? Now, you're and here's what happens is you you're and here's what happens is you you're and here's what happens is you guys know this is guys know this is guys know this is >> then they become skinny fat or they lose >> then they become skinny fat or they lose >> then they become skinny fat or they lose their muscle. So when they get you could their muscle. So when they get you could their muscle. So when they get you could never get off your GLP because you if never get off your GLP because you if never get off your GLP because you if you did fatter than you were than before you did fatter than you were than before you did fatter than you were than before you started because you're your MR is you started because you're your MR is you started because you're your MR is everything's gone. everything's gone. everything's gone. >> Phil people people are going on them and >> Phil people people are going on them and >> Phil people people are going on them and getting osteopenia. getting osteopenia. getting osteopenia. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Because of low calories. We worked with >> Because of low calories. We worked with >> Because of low calories. We worked with a group that we worked with Phil. I'm a group that we worked with Phil. I'm a group that we worked with Phil. I'm telling this is 100%. Uh there was one telling this is 100%. Uh there was one telling this is 100%. Uh there was one woman there was more than one but I woman there was more than one but I woman there was more than one but I remember this one woman who lost 80 remember this one woman who lost 80 remember this one woman who lost 80 pounds pounds pounds uh on a GLP1 super low calories. She had uh on a GLP1 super low calories. She had uh on a GLP1 super low calories. She had 50 more pounds to go. She was eating 50 more pounds to go. She was eating 50 more pounds to go. She was eating under 1,000 calories a day and couldn't under 1,000 calories a day and couldn't under 1,000 calories a day and couldn't lose any more weight. Her body had her lose any more weight. Her body had her lose any more weight. Her body had her metabolism had that's it. Plateau metabolism had that's it. Plateau metabolism had that's it. Plateau >> flatline. >> flatline. >> flatline. >> And she's like, "What do I do? Do I up >> And she's like, "What do I do? Do I up >> And she's like, "What do I do? Do I up my dose?" I'm like, "No." my dose?" I'm like, "No." my dose?" I'm like, "No." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We going to go down to 500 calories. >> We going to go down to 500 calories. >> We going to go down to 500 calories. >> So, we had to reverse diet her, which >> So, we had to reverse diet her, which >> So, we had to reverse diet her, which was very hard on the GLP1. And we tried was very hard on the GLP1. And we tried was very hard on the GLP1. And we tried to talk to her about working with to talk to her about working with to talk to her about working with getting on a compounded one so she could getting on a compounded one so she could getting on a compounded one so she could adjust the dosage because she plateaued. adjust the dosage because she plateaued. adjust the dosage because she plateaued. You're also seeing that. You're seeing You're also seeing that. You're seeing You're also seeing that. You're seeing people lose a bunch of weight then people lose a bunch of weight then people lose a bunch of weight then plateau because they lose so much muscle plateau because they lose so much muscle plateau because they lose so much muscle metabolism goes in the tank. Losing metabolism goes in the tank. Losing metabolism goes in the tank. Losing their hair like you got to strength their hair like you got to strength their hair like you got to strength train. You can't eat too little. And I train. You can't eat too little. And I train. You can't eat too little. And I love what you said about combining love what you said about combining love what you said about combining because you know that by the way the because you know that by the way the because you know that by the way the pharma industry agrees with you. So pharma industry agrees with you. So pharma industry agrees with you. So everybody listening right now. Phil's everybody listening right now. Phil's everybody listening right now. Phil's not like making some crazy statement. not like making some crazy statement. not like making some crazy statement. Right now the pharma industry is Right now the pharma industry is Right now the pharma industry is investing massive R&D in myostatin investing massive R&D in myostatin investing massive R&D in myostatin inhibiting drugs and compounds to inhibiting drugs and compounds to inhibiting drugs and compounds to prevent the muscle loss. prevent the muscle loss. prevent the muscle loss. 677. Burke right now just has it this 677. Burke right now just has it this 677. Burke right now just has it this clinical tube. clinical tube. clinical tube. >> Yeah, they know this. So what you just >> Yeah, they know this. So what you just >> Yeah, they know this. So what you just said isn't like like you didn't just said isn't like like you didn't just said isn't like like you didn't just invent like they know they're just not invent like they know they're just not invent like they know they're just not talking about it right now because they talking about it right now because they talking about it right now because they don't have their special drug yet ready don't have their special drug yet ready don't have their special drug yet ready to sell with the GLP1, but they know to sell with the GLP1, but they know to sell with the GLP1, but they know this is a problem. So I agree with you this is a problem. So I agree with you this is a problem. So I agree with you 100%. 100%. 100%. Now this episode is brought to you by Now this episode is brought to you by Now this episode is brought to you by our sponsor Keon. They make athletic our sponsor Keon. They make athletic our sponsor Keon. 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Go to get link, you'll get 20% off. Go to get keon.com/mindpump. keon.com/mindpump. keon.com/mindpump. That's gekio n.com/mindpump. >> I [ __ ] obsess on this industry every >> I [ __ ] obsess on this industry every single day. I wake up, my first 2, three single day. I wake up, my first 2, three single day. I wake up, my first 2, three hours of the day is reading. I just dive hours of the day is reading. I just dive hours of the day is reading. I just dive in and read and read and the GLP1 in and read and read and the GLP1 in and read and read and the GLP1 problem is massive. I the biggest thing problem is massive. I the biggest thing problem is massive. I the biggest thing no one's talking about is they stick to no one's talking about is they stick to no one's talking about is they stick to their titration schedule. Everyone their titration schedule. Everyone their titration schedule. Everyone sticks to their I'm going to go here. sticks to their I'm going to go here. sticks to their I'm going to go here. I'm going to go for I'm going to go for I'm going to go for >> if you are continuously losing [ __ ] >> if you are continuously losing [ __ ] >> if you are continuously losing [ __ ] weight. Why are you going up in your weight. Why are you going up in your weight. Why are you going up in your dose? dose? dose? >> If you're meeting your weight loss, why >> If you're meeting your weight loss, why >> If you're meeting your weight loss, why are you because your doctor said that's are you because your doctor said that's are you because your doctor said that's another thing is another thing is another thing is >> medicine's 50% art, 50% science. I just >> medicine's 50% art, 50% science. I just >> medicine's 50% art, 50% science. I just launched an amazing an amazing launched an amazing an amazing launched an amazing an amazing comparison on this. I have identical comparison on this. I have identical comparison on this. I have identical twins. That means the exact same [ __ ] twins. That means the exact same [ __ ] twins. That means the exact same [ __ ] DNA. DNA. DNA. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> they live together. They both play >> they live together. They both play >> they live together. They both play pickle ball. They do the exact same pickle ball. They do the exact same pickle ball. They do the exact same thing. They're in the exact same thing. They're in the exact same thing. They're in the exact same consulting line of work. The identical consulting line of work. The identical consulting line of work. The identical medication dose for both. You would medication dose for both. You would medication dose for both. You would assume same DNA, same lifestyle. It assume same DNA, same lifestyle. It assume same DNA, same lifestyle. It would work. Completely different. would work. Completely different. would work. Completely different. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Results. Wow. So if two identical twins >> Results. Wow. So if two identical twins >> Results. Wow. So if two identical twins get completely different results, what get completely different results, what get completely different results, what the [ __ ] is it going to be for you and the [ __ ] is it going to be for you and the [ __ ] is it going to be for you and me, me, me, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Like, and so medicine's 50% art, 50% >> Like, and so medicine's 50% art, 50% >> Like, and so medicine's 50% art, 50% science, even something could work science, even something could work science, even something could work amazing for you and different for you, amazing for you and different for you, amazing for you and different for you, cell. And and the reason why is is cell. And and the reason why is is cell. And and the reason why is is because all of our bodies are different. because all of our bodies are different. because all of our bodies are different. They react differently. And so it's even They react differently. And so it's even They react differently. And so it's even when we prescribe it, I'm like, it when we prescribe it, I'm like, it when we prescribe it, I'm like, it should work. Does it? And they're like, should work. Does it? And they're like, should work. Does it? And they're like, well, can you guarantee it works? No. well, can you guarantee it works? No. well, can you guarantee it works? No. But that's why we stick with you and But that's why we stick with you and But that's why we stick with you and that's why any provider, they should that's why any provider, they should that's why any provider, they should meet with you on a quarterly basis. You meet with you on a quarterly basis. You meet with you on a quarterly basis. You have to have check-ins so that way you have to have check-ins so that way you have to have check-ins so that way you can adjust. Maybe this doesn't work. can adjust. Maybe this doesn't work. can adjust. Maybe this doesn't work. Maybe you get a better reaction here. Maybe you get a better reaction here. Maybe you get a better reaction here. Maybe at this dose it's better for you. Maybe at this dose it's better for you. Maybe at this dose it's better for you. I don't know. Same thing with I don't know. Same thing with I don't know. Same thing with testosterone. We have guys that are like testosterone. We have guys that are like testosterone. We have guys that are like at 160 at 160 at 160 >> not not going well. They go to like 120 >> not not going well. They go to like 120 >> not not going well. They go to like 120 100. Not that I would ever personally go 100. Not that I would ever personally go 100. Not that I would ever personally go down, but um down, but um down, but um >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> they get better result. And he's like >> they get better result. And he's like >> they get better result. And he's like now I feel my libido is better. I'm like now I feel my libido is better. I'm like now I feel my libido is better. I'm like your li it could be your li it could be your li it could be but but but >> you're 100%. No, you're 100% with >> you're 100%. No, you're 100% with >> you're 100%. No, you're 100% with testosterone even. It's incredible the testosterone even. It's incredible the testosterone even. It's incredible the difference. I have a buddy, fitness guy. difference. I have a buddy, fitness guy. difference. I have a buddy, fitness guy. Yeah. Works out. Uh, and he wanted to Yeah. Works out. Uh, and he wanted to Yeah. Works out. Uh, and he wanted to try try try >> what was considered a somewhat of a >> what was considered a somewhat of a >> what was considered a somewhat of a micro dose of Tzepite. So, it wasn't the micro dose of Tzepite. So, it wasn't the micro dose of Tzepite. So, it wasn't the full dose at all. full dose at all. full dose at all. >> Wanted a micro dose. It vomited. >> Wanted a micro dose. It vomited. >> Wanted a micro dose. It vomited. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Vomited for days. That's how sensitive >> Vomited for days. That's how sensitive >> Vomited for days. That's how sensitive he was. Whereas other people, you would he was. Whereas other people, you would he was. Whereas other people, you would give that to them. give that to them. give that to them. >> That's what you happened to me too. >> That's what you happened to me too. >> That's what you happened to me too. >> Yeah. On a on a micro do >> Yeah. On a on a micro do >> Yeah. On a on a micro do >> did not sit well. >> did not sit well. >> did not sit well. >> No. Whereas other people will take a >> No. Whereas other people will take a >> No. Whereas other people will take a full dose and then uh maybe I need more full dose and then uh maybe I need more full dose and then uh maybe I need more or whatever. There's a radical uh or whatever. There's a radical uh or whatever. There's a radical uh difference uh in variance with the GLP difference uh in variance with the GLP difference uh in variance with the GLP ones. Radical. Radical. My wife, if I ones. Radical. Radical. My wife, if I ones. Radical. Radical. My wife, if I micro dose her, we're talking about five micro dose her, we're talking about five micro dose her, we're talking about five units. Five units on something where the units. Five units on something where the units. Five units on something where the nor the normal full do nor the normal full do nor the normal full do 150 units. 150 units. 150 units. >> That's right. And five units for her. >> That's right. And five units for her. >> That's right. And five units for her. Sometimes we got to go down to two Sometimes we got to go down to two Sometimes we got to go down to two because she'll get a little bit of because she'll get a little bit of because she'll get a little bit of indigestion and and nausea. indigestion and and nausea. indigestion and and nausea. >> Can barely see that on the needle. >> Can barely see that on the needle. >> Can barely see that on the needle. >> You're right. She's very sensitive >> You're right. She's very sensitive >> You're right. She's very sensitive whereas other people take more. So what whereas other people take more. So what whereas other people take more. So what you're saying is 100% correct. It it's you're saying is 100% correct. It it's you're saying is 100% correct. It it's it's a shame honestly. You know the bad it's a shame honestly. You know the bad it's a shame honestly. You know the bad actors where you talk about like actors where you talk about like actors where you talk about like customer service. I'm more I'm more customer service. I'm more I'm more customer service. I'm more I'm more concerned with bad actors that are concerned with bad actors that are concerned with bad actors that are giving bad guidance. giving bad guidance. giving bad guidance. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because that's what who gives a [ __ ] >> Because that's what who gives a [ __ ] >> Because that's what who gives a [ __ ] about our industry and making money. I about our industry and making money. I about our industry and making money. I care about hurting people. Like that's care about hurting people. Like that's care about hurting people. Like that's ideally what these individuals are doing ideally what these individuals are doing ideally what these individuals are doing during this cash grab that's currently during this cash grab that's currently during this cash grab that's currently going on right now. You got influencers going on right now. You got influencers going on right now. You got influencers that could give two [ __ ] about you. that could give two [ __ ] about you. that could give two [ __ ] about you. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> they could give two [ __ ] about you. All >> they could give two [ __ ] about you. All >> they could give two [ __ ] about you. All they want to do is clickbait you and let they want to do is clickbait you and let they want to do is clickbait you and let you run as the bill as high as possible you run as the bill as high as possible you run as the bill as high as possible with their [ __ ] user code. with their [ __ ] user code. with their [ __ ] user code. >> Well, you know what a lot of people are >> Well, you know what a lot of people are >> Well, you know what a lot of people are getting their education from on peptides getting their education from on peptides getting their education from on peptides are uh these uh fitness freaks who take are uh these uh fitness freaks who take are uh these uh fitness freaks who take crazy amounts of test steroids and like crazy amounts of test steroids and like crazy amounts of test steroids and like those are not the people you want to get those are not the people you want to get those are not the people you want to get advice from on peptides. They're taking advice from on peptides. They're taking advice from on peptides. They're taking grams of gear and other stuff. grams of gear and other stuff. grams of gear and other stuff. >> How can you You guys have had so many >> How can you You guys have had so many >> How can you You guys have had so many amazing people on this show so this is amazing people on this show so this is amazing people on this show so this is going to be [ __ ] horrible for me going to be [ __ ] horrible for me going to be [ __ ] horrible for me talking [ __ ] about them. How can the talking [ __ ] about them. How can the talking [ __ ] about them. How can the guys that come on here guys that come on here guys that come on here >> that are on nine other things >> that are on nine other things >> that are on nine other things >> be like this is the one this is the one >> be like this is the one this is the one >> be like this is the one this is the one thing that changed thing that changed thing that changed >> the my whole like when I took that >> the my whole like when I took that >> the my whole like when I took that everything ch it it's not the everything ch it it's not the everything ch it it's not the combination of the other nine things combination of the other nine things combination of the other nine things >> plus this one thing together that had >> plus this one thing together that had >> plus this one thing together that had the synergistic effect you're going to the synergistic effect you're going to the synergistic effect you're going to narrow it down that that's why I look at narrow it down that that's why I look at narrow it down that that's why I look at like uh Johnson and he's like yeah like uh Johnson and he's like yeah like uh Johnson and he's like yeah rapamiasin you know I took it out dude rapamiasin you know I took it out dude rapamiasin you know I took it out dude you're on 200 meditation you're on 200 meditation you're on 200 meditation >> you're talking about that guy that says >> you're talking about that guy that says >> you're talking about that guy that says he wants to live he wants to live he wants to live >> you're 200. >> you're 200. >> you're 200. Listen, I'm good at math. Listen, I'm good at math. Listen, I'm good at math. >> I'm good at math, pal. There's no way in >> I'm good at math, pal. There's no way in >> I'm good at math, pal. There's no way in my right mind. He's like, "Yeah, we my right mind. He's like, "Yeah, we my right mind. He's like, "Yeah, we narrowed it down to that one pill." You narrowed it down to that one pill." You narrowed it down to that one pill." You narrowed it down. narrowed it down. narrowed it down. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Out of 200 medications to one pill. >> Out of 200 medications to one pill. >> Out of 200 medications to one pill. >> What do you think about the future of >> What do you think about the future of >> What do you think about the future of your industry? Is it because of the bad your industry? Is it because of the bad your industry? Is it because of the bad actors? You know what it reminds me of? actors? You know what it reminds me of? actors? You know what it reminds me of? The supplement industry does this to The supplement industry does this to The supplement industry does this to themselves all the time where you'll get themselves all the time where you'll get themselves all the time where you'll get some third party whatever investigative, some third party whatever investigative, some third party whatever investigative, you know, investigative, you know, re you know, investigative, you know, re you know, investigative, you know, re company will go out and take third party company will go out and take third party company will go out and take third party test supplements. They always come back test supplements. They always come back test supplements. They always come back the same. Eight out of 10 of them didn't the same. Eight out of 10 of them didn't the same. Eight out of 10 of them didn't have what they said or had other stuff have what they said or had other stuff have what they said or had other stuff in them. And I always I'm always like, in them. And I always I'm always like, in them. And I always I'm always like, you guys are going to you're going to you guys are going to you're going to you guys are going to you're going to make yourself get regulated. Uh, you make yourself get regulated. Uh, you make yourself get regulated. Uh, you know, it pisses me off. know, it pisses me off. know, it pisses me off. >> We are regulated, by the way. >> We are regulated, by the way. >> We are regulated, by the way. >> You are, but >> You are, but >> You are, but >> research ain't. But we are. >> research ain't. But we are. >> research ain't. But we are. >> Yes, you are regulated. But could you >> Yes, you are regulated. But could you >> Yes, you are regulated. But could you could you with these bad actors, could could you with these bad actors, could could you with these bad actors, could you see how they could bring up bring you see how they could bring up bring you see how they could bring up bring about the other regulation that makes it about the other regulation that makes it about the other regulation that makes it like no more compounding, no more like no more compounding, no more like no more compounding, no more >> I think there's no way. So I I >> I think there's no way. So I I >> I think there's no way. So I I personally think there's no way our personally think there's no way our personally think there's no way our industry gets destroyed. And the reason industry gets destroyed. And the reason industry gets destroyed. And the reason why is there will be a revolution like why is there will be a revolution like why is there will be a revolution like we've never seen before. There's too we've never seen before. There's too we've never seen before. There's too many people. many people. many people. >> It's the first time ever >> It's the first time ever >> It's the first time ever >> that people have control of their >> that people have control of their >> that people have control of their health. Think about this. It's the first health. Think about this. It's the first health. Think about this. It's the first time ever that people have preventative time ever that people have preventative time ever that people have preventative control of their health to where control of their health to where control of their health to where >> you know PDA, BPC, like actually going >> you know PDA, BPC, like actually going >> you know PDA, BPC, like actually going in and seeing if it can happen naturally in and seeing if it can happen naturally in and seeing if it can happen naturally instead of forcing surgery. It's the instead of forcing surgery. It's the instead of forcing surgery. It's the first time that you can gain muscle and first time that you can gain muscle and first time that you can gain muscle and you can, you know, you can, you know, you can, you know, >> you know, TB4, TB1. There's so many >> you know, TB4, TB1. There's so many >> you know, TB4, TB1. There's so many different things that help out with different things that help out with different things that help out with immunity. And for you to come in and immunity. And for you to come in and immunity. And for you to come in and take that away, I think it won't get take that away, I think it won't get take that away, I think it won't get more regulated. I think big pharma is more regulated. I think big pharma is more regulated. I think big pharma is going to get more aggressive in creating going to get more aggressive in creating going to get more aggressive in creating their own lines. their own lines. their own lines. >> Oh, I see. >> Oh, I see. >> Oh, I see. >> Cuz you know why? They're missing out on >> Cuz you know why? They're missing out on >> Cuz you know why? They're missing out on the revenue. the revenue. the revenue. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and they'll find a way to make this >> And and they'll find a way to make this >> And and they'll find a way to make this truly I think they're going to not only truly I think they're going to not only truly I think they're going to not only find their own lines, they're going to find their own lines, they're going to find their own lines, they're going to find a way to make this find a way to make this find a way to make this >> insurable. By the way, reimbursements >> insurable. By the way, reimbursements >> insurable. By the way, reimbursements >> for people listening right now, just so >> for people listening right now, just so >> for people listening right now, just so I remember I asked this question. I I remember I asked this question. I I remember I asked this question. I asked Dr. Seeds this question. He's I asked Dr. Seeds this question. He's I asked Dr. Seeds this question. He's I love him and he he really explained it love him and he he really explained it love him and he he really explained it well. well. well. >> The difference between a drug and a >> The difference between a drug and a >> The difference between a drug and a peptide is a peptide your body already peptide is a peptide your body already peptide is a peptide your body already produces. Your body knows what to do produces. Your body knows what to do produces. Your body knows what to do with it. with it. with it. uh it it recognizes it. A pharmaceutical uh it it recognizes it. A pharmaceutical uh it it recognizes it. A pharmaceutical drug uh is basically shoehorning a drug uh is basically shoehorning a drug uh is basically shoehorning a chemical to attach to receptors and your chemical to attach to receptors and your chemical to attach to receptors and your body doesn't recognize it and we hope it body doesn't recognize it and we hope it body doesn't recognize it and we hope it does this and not all this other stuff. does this and not all this other stuff. does this and not all this other stuff. When you take BPC When you take BPC When you take BPC >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> or TB, you know, your body makes it >> or TB, you know, your body makes it >> or TB, you know, your body makes it already. already. already. >> So what you're doing >> So what you're doing >> So what you're doing >> on some of them, but yes, on some of >> on some of them, but yes, on some of >> on some of them, but yes, on some of them, yes. So there's 7,000 peptides in them, yes. So there's 7,000 peptides in them, yes. So there's 7,000 peptides in the human body. the human body. the human body. >> 7,000. Peptides are nothing more than >> 7,000. Peptides are nothing more than >> 7,000. Peptides are nothing more than short chains of amino acids less than short chains of amino acids less than short chains of amino acids less than 50. More than 50, it's called a protein. 50. More than 50, it's called a protein. 50. More than 50, it's called a protein. >> Okay. Very simply, the great part about >> Okay. Very simply, the great part about >> Okay. Very simply, the great part about peptides is imagine you look at a US peptides is imagine you look at a US peptides is imagine you look at a US map. All the highways go somewhere. You map. All the highways go somewhere. You map. All the highways go somewhere. You want to go to LA, take this highway. You want to go to LA, take this highway. You want to go to LA, take this highway. You want to go through Arizona, you take the want to go through Arizona, you take the want to go through Arizona, you take the 10. Take the 17. Peptides are nothing 10. Take the 17. Peptides are nothing 10. Take the 17. Peptides are nothing more than messengers for the body. It more than messengers for the body. It more than messengers for the body. It tells you it's like like shooting a text tells you it's like like shooting a text tells you it's like like shooting a text message. Click, click. Here. Okay. message. Click, click. Here. Okay. message. Click, click. Here. Okay. >> Slow down my digestion. Click click. >> Slow down my digestion. Click click. >> Slow down my digestion. Click click. Statiate me. Click click. Send a text Statiate me. Click click. Send a text Statiate me. Click click. Send a text message. Pituitary gland. Release growth message. Pituitary gland. Release growth message. Pituitary gland. Release growth hormone. They're they're they're natural hormone. They're they're they're natural hormone. They're they're they're natural to the body. A lot of them are natural, to the body. A lot of them are natural, to the body. A lot of them are natural, right, to the body. But peptides because right, to the body. But peptides because right, to the body. But peptides because you're getting synthetic peptides a lot you're getting synthetic peptides a lot you're getting synthetic peptides a lot of times. But BPC, no, but BPC is of times. But BPC, no, but BPC is of times. But BPC, no, but BPC is amazing. There, by the way, shout out to amazing. There, by the way, shout out to amazing. There, by the way, shout out to everybody that's taken BPC and taken everybody that's taken BPC and taken everybody that's taken BPC and taken PDA. There's 7,000 peptides. It's the PDA. There's 7,000 peptides. It's the PDA. There's 7,000 peptides. It's the only one you can't replicate. only one you can't replicate. only one you can't replicate. >> That 15 chain amino, there's so many >> That 15 chain amino, there's so many >> That 15 chain amino, there's so many GHRs. There's so many different ones. GHRs. There's so many different ones. GHRs. There's so many different ones. It's the only one. That's why PDA, god It's the only one. That's why PDA, god It's the only one. That's why PDA, god forbid, like we get that taken away from forbid, like we get that taken away from forbid, like we get that taken away from us, we're going to be in big trouble. us, we're going to be in big trouble. us, we're going to be in big trouble. But there's so many amazing peptides But there's so many amazing peptides But there's so many amazing peptides that can do amazing things, but they're that can do amazing things, but they're that can do amazing things, but they're just messengers. And people are afraid. just messengers. And people are afraid. just messengers. And people are afraid. Like it's it's cool to talk about, but Like it's it's cool to talk about, but Like it's it's cool to talk about, but they go peptides still new. Is it? they go peptides still new. Is it? they go peptides still new. Is it? >> What's the first peptide? Insulin. >> What's the first peptide? Insulin. >> What's the first peptide? Insulin. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Save what? Millions, if not tens, >> Save what? Millions, if not tens, >> Save what? Millions, if not tens, hundreds of millions of lives. It's a hundreds of millions of lives. It's a hundreds of millions of lives. It's a hundred years ago. A hundred years ago, hundred years ago. A hundred years ago, hundred years ago. A hundred years ago, we brought insulin to market. But like we brought insulin to market. But like we brought insulin to market. But like peptides are still new. peptides are still new. peptides are still new. >> You have to be careful. You know what we >> You have to be careful. You know what we >> You have to be careful. You know what we need to be careful of is taking need to be careful of is taking need to be careful of is taking chemicals and putting chemicals in our chemicals and putting chemicals in our chemicals and putting chemicals in our body that we have no absolute no idea body that we have no absolute no idea body that we have no absolute no idea what it's going to happen for you. Like what it's going to happen for you. Like what it's going to happen for you. Like giving yourself something that your body giving yourself something that your body giving yourself something that your body has and more of it. has and more of it. has and more of it. >> That's that that's considered amazing. >> That's that that's considered amazing. >> That's that that's considered amazing. >> Well, what worries me cuz I remember >> Well, what worries me cuz I remember >> Well, what worries me cuz I remember when this happened and maybe it's when this happened and maybe it's when this happened and maybe it's different now. Maybe maybe what you're different now. Maybe maybe what you're different now. Maybe maybe what you're saying is I I agree with you so it might saying is I I agree with you so it might saying is I I agree with you so it might be different but I remember in in be different but I remember in in be different but I remember in in remember 2020 remember the craziness remember 2020 remember the craziness remember 2020 remember the craziness that happened there. I remember uh that happened there. I remember uh that happened there. I remember uh during the COVID time there was data during the COVID time there was data during the COVID time there was data showing that thyus alpha showing that thyus alpha showing that thyus alpha uh might actually help with COVID and uh might actually help with COVID and uh might actually help with COVID and suddenly you couldn't get thyus and suddenly you couldn't get thyus and suddenly you couldn't get thyus and alpha they made it you could not sell alpha they made it you could not sell alpha they made it you could not sell it. So there's always a part of me it. So there's always a part of me it. So there's always a part of me that's a little bit like oh man you know that's a little bit like oh man you know that's a little bit like oh man you know when there's enough money they'll find a when there's enough money they'll find a when there's enough money they'll find a way to but you're you're saying the way to but you're you're saying the way to but you're you're saying the opposite there's so much money the way opposite there's so much money the way opposite there's so much money the way it is now they're going to try and it is now they're going to try and it is now they're going to try and figure out how to get into the business. figure out how to get into the business. figure out how to get into the business. you you're you you're you you're there's an inflection point and this is there's an inflection point and this is there's an inflection point and this is great. There's an inflection point. This great. There's an inflection point. This great. There's an inflection point. This is the Kodak Blockbuster inflection is the Kodak Blockbuster inflection is the Kodak Blockbuster inflection point is the world's changing. point is the world's changing. point is the world's changing. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> the world is changing right now and >> the world is changing right now and >> the world is changing right now and those who get behind it will flourish those who get behind it will flourish those who get behind it will flourish now. They're going to figure out dosing now. They're going to figure out dosing now. They're going to figure out dosing mechanisms cuz like Ozmpic and these mechanisms cuz like Ozmpic and these mechanisms cuz like Ozmpic and these these these peptides, these these peptides, these these peptides, >> they're patenting the dosing. >> they're patenting the dosing. >> they're patenting the dosing. They're patenting the route of injection They're patenting the route of injection They're patenting the route of injection patent. They're patenting certain things patent. They're patenting certain things patent. They're patenting certain things that make it easier and that they can that make it easier and that they can that make it easier and that they can actually maintain a patent on so that actually maintain a patent on so that actually maintain a patent on so that they can make money. They're going to they can make money. They're going to they can make money. They're going to innovate at a speed that they never have innovate at a speed that they never have innovate at a speed that they never have before in this market. They're going to before in this market. They're going to before in this market. They're going to make compounds with phes that actually make compounds with phes that actually make compounds with phes that actually can bind and bend together so that they can bind and bend together so that they can bind and bend together so that they can be injected to the body. The glows can be injected to the body. The glows can be injected to the body. The glows and everything else that everybody's and everything else that everybody's and everything else that everybody's using. They're going to find a way to do using. They're going to find a way to do using. They're going to find a way to do this fast. like MK and all these. It's this fast. like MK and all these. It's this fast. like MK and all these. It's amazing that when MK went on the amazing that when MK went on the amazing that when MK went on the scheduled tour, the the category 2 MK677 scheduled tour, the the category 2 MK677 scheduled tour, the the category 2 MK677 in Maryland. in Maryland. in Maryland. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, >> So, >> So, >> so that went schedule. >> so that went schedule. >> so that went schedule. >> Yeah. Just wait. >> Yeah. Just wait. >> Yeah. Just wait. >> Is that why I can't get that? >> Is that why I can't get that? >> Is that why I can't get that? >> Just wait. >> Just wait. >> Just wait. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> But yet Merc, I believe it's Merc, don't >> But yet Merc, I believe it's Merc, don't >> But yet Merc, I believe it's Merc, don't quote me, all of a sudden came out with quote me, all of a sudden came out with quote me, all of a sudden came out with a Yeah, no problem. We can move forward a Yeah, no problem. We can move forward a Yeah, no problem. We can move forward to clinical. We can move forward to to clinical. We can move forward to to clinical. We can move forward to phase two. A week later, not like you phase two. A week later, not like you phase two. A week later, not like you didn't even mask it. It went on the didn't even mask it. It went on the didn't even mask it. It went on the category 2 and then all of a sudden, category 2 and then all of a sudden, category 2 and then all of a sudden, yeah, don't worry about it. It's yeah, don't worry about it. It's yeah, don't worry about it. It's everything was good, no problem. So, in everything was good, no problem. So, in everything was good, no problem. So, in one hand, it's dangerous for you and we one hand, it's dangerous for you and we one hand, it's dangerous for you and we don't have enough studies. But in the don't have enough studies. But in the don't have enough studies. But in the other hand, there were no problems with other hand, there were no problems with other hand, there were no problems with the study. Let's proceed to the advanced the study. Let's proceed to the advanced the study. Let's proceed to the advanced clinical phase. Like, think about that. clinical phase. Like, think about that. clinical phase. Like, think about that. >> By the way, that was some strong stuff, >> By the way, that was some strong stuff, >> By the way, that was some strong stuff, man. That I would take that and I would man. That I would take that and I would man. That I would take that and I would just get strong on that stuff. How did just get strong on that stuff. How did just get strong on that stuff. How did uh who was it that you said sued Eli uh who was it that you said sued Eli uh who was it that you said sued Eli >> Strive Pharmacy? >> Strive Pharmacy? >> Strive Pharmacy? >> Okay. So, how are they able to do that? >> Okay. So, how are they able to do that? >> Okay. So, how are they able to do that? Is it is because I know like with Is it is because I know like with Is it is because I know like with certain compounds you can't patent certain compounds you can't patent certain compounds you can't patent because they're naturally occurring with because they're naturally occurring with because they're naturally occurring with the How is that with How are they doing the How is that with How are they doing the How is that with How are they doing that? Is there like a counter suit that? Is there like a counter suit that? Is there like a counter suit because they lost revenue when Lily because they lost revenue when Lily because they lost revenue when Lily tried to sue? tried to sue? tried to sue? >> The counters suit that they're doing >> The counters suit that they're doing >> The counters suit that they're doing right now has to do with and I and again right now has to do with and I and again right now has to do with and I and again I'm not pulling up the studies here, but I'm not pulling up the studies here, but I'm not pulling up the studies here, but there's I believe it has something to do there's I believe it has something to do there's I believe it has something to do with the oppression that they're pushing with the oppression that they're pushing with the oppression that they're pushing down on compoundingies and trying to down on compoundingies and trying to down on compoundingies and trying to make it hard to do business, make it hard to do business, make it hard to do business, >> right? You're hurting my business. So >> right? You're hurting my business. So >> right? You're hurting my business. So like that's the point they're tried to like that's the point they're tried to like that's the point they're tried to that Lily tried to sue first, lost, and that Lily tried to sue first, lost, and that Lily tried to sue first, lost, and then that's them coming back and being then that's them coming back and being then that's them coming back and being like, "Now we're getting you for all the like, "Now we're getting you for all the like, "Now we're getting you for all the lost revenue for tarnishing our name." lost revenue for tarnishing our name." lost revenue for tarnishing our name." How did they win the lawsuit in the How did they win the lawsuit in the How did they win the lawsuit in the first place? Is it that you can't patent first place? Is it that you can't patent first place? Is it that you can't patent peptides because they're naturally peptides because they're naturally peptides because they're naturally occurring? occurring? occurring? >> It's not it's not that they couldn't >> It's not it's not that they couldn't >> It's not it's not that they couldn't patent. They said that they they patent. They said that they they patent. They said that they they couldn't prescribe like trappepide and couldn't prescribe like trappepide and couldn't prescribe like trappepide and semiglut. I forget what the med was, but semiglut. I forget what the med was, but semiglut. I forget what the med was, but they couldn't prescribe one of them. And they couldn't prescribe one of them. And they couldn't prescribe one of them. And uh and they went to court and they said uh and they went to court and they said uh and they went to court and they said you can't stop them. And I believe you you can't stop them. And I believe you you can't stop them. And I believe you guys got to look at the quote. Please guys got to look at the quote. Please guys got to look at the quote. Please God put the quote up on this damn video God put the quote up on this damn video God put the quote up on this damn video when you guys do it. The judge says, when you guys do it. The judge says, when you guys do it. The judge says, "Thank God for compoundingies." "Thank God for compoundingies." "Thank God for compoundingies." >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> It was it was like it was one of the >> It was it was like it was one of the >> It was it was like it was one of the most amazing most amazing most amazing >> Wow. That was the >> Wow. That was the >> Wow. That was the >> Yeah, it was one of the most amazing >> Yeah, it was one of the most amazing >> Yeah, it was one of the most amazing quotes that I've seen out there. quotes that I've seen out there. quotes that I've seen out there. >> But yeah, it it definitely was something >> But yeah, it it definitely was something >> But yeah, it it definitely was something to um to um to um >> Well, to your point that we've reached >> Well, to your point that we've reached >> Well, to your point that we've reached this point where I I we we can't put the this point where I I we we can't put the this point where I I we we can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. toothpaste back in the tube. toothpaste back in the tube. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Because we what for the first time in >> Because we what for the first time in >> Because we what for the first time in decades, we've actually slowed down the decades, we've actually slowed down the decades, we've actually slowed down the rate of obesity. We're actually rate of obesity. We're actually rate of obesity. We're actually reversing. reversing. reversing. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> I mean, that's we've been on the rise >> I mean, that's we've been on the rise >> I mean, that's we've been on the rise for for for >> Well, this is the first >> Well, this is the first >> Well, this is the first >> How many years? 50 plus years. >> How many years? 50 plus years. >> How many years? 50 plus years. >> This is the first time in medical >> This is the first time in medical >> This is the first time in medical intervention. Mhm. intervention. Mhm. intervention. Mhm. >> Uh for obesity used properly, all right, >> Uh for obesity used properly, all right, >> Uh for obesity used properly, all right, especially if you work with a trainer especially if you work with a trainer especially if you work with a trainer and you're eating protein, right, and you're eating protein, right, and you're eating protein, right, dosing, this is the first time a medical dosing, this is the first time a medical dosing, this is the first time a medical intervention is actually can make a big intervention is actually can make a big intervention is actually can make a big difference difference difference >> without also killing you. >> without also killing you. >> without also killing you. >> Almost it's borderline guaranteed. You >> Almost it's borderline guaranteed. You >> Almost it's borderline guaranteed. You can't you can't stop it from working. can't you can't stop it from working. can't you can't stop it from working. >> Have you guys have you seen that uh >> Have you guys have you seen that uh >> Have you guys have you seen that uh snack food companies are reporting snack food companies are reporting snack food companies are reporting losses? airlines are going to start losses? airlines are going to start losses? airlines are going to start cutting prices because the people are cutting prices because the people are cutting prices because the people are not as heavy. They're talking about not as heavy. They're talking about not as heavy. They're talking about their local their local their local >> Well, you even see uh you see the big >> Well, you even see uh you see the big >> Well, you even see uh you see the big shift. I told I've been talking about shift. I told I've been talking about shift. I told I've been talking about this on the show. Uh yeah, because we this on the show. Uh yeah, because we this on the show. Uh yeah, because we know how important protein is. You're know how important protein is. You're know how important protein is. You're seeing fast food restaurants with whole seeing fast food restaurants with whole seeing fast food restaurants with whole new new new >> high protein menu and they're pushing >> high protein menu and they're pushing >> high protein menu and they're pushing that cuz they know that everybody's that cuz they know that everybody's that cuz they know that everybody's going to be on a GLP1. you you have going to be on a GLP1. you you have going to be on a GLP1. you you have Hershey's and a couple of these Hershey's and a couple of these Hershey's and a couple of these companies that have hired doctors, companies that have hired doctors, companies that have hired doctors, functional medicine doctors to lead them functional medicine doctors to lead them functional medicine doctors to lead them into the into the next phase. I know into the into the next phase. I know into the into the next phase. I know some of them um that have just been some of them um that have just been some of them um that have just been hired getting paid half a million hired getting paid half a million hired getting paid half a million million dollars a year to lead million dollars a year to lead million dollars a year to lead >> them into the next phase. I think the >> them into the next phase. I think the >> them into the next phase. I think the scary part and and uh you know this is scary part and and uh you know this is scary part and and uh you know this is really the scary part for me is this is really the scary part for me is this is really the scary part for me is this is going to end up bankrupting the country going to end up bankrupting the country going to end up bankrupting the country and I'm going to walk you through this and I'm going to walk you through this and I'm going to walk you through this is Ozmpic Introspite is going to end up is Ozmpic Introspite is going to end up is Ozmpic Introspite is going to end up bankrupting the United States. That's a bankrupting the United States. That's a bankrupting the United States. That's a crazy statement. How is because the crazy statement. How is because the crazy statement. How is because the biggest issue we have with our funding biggest issue we have with our funding biggest issue we have with our funding right now is social security. M right now is social security. M right now is social security. M >> people are going to live longer than >> people are going to live longer than >> people are going to live longer than they ever have in their life. They are they ever have in their life. They are they ever have in their life. They are is because you're managing their is because you're managing their is because you're managing their glucose. You're managing their sugar, glucose. You're managing their sugar, glucose. You're managing their sugar, insulin resistance. People are going to insulin resistance. People are going to insulin resistance. People are going to fundamentally live way longer than they fundamentally live way longer than they fundamentally live way longer than they ever have. Heart disease going down, ever have. Heart disease going down, ever have. Heart disease going down, diabetes going down, diabetes going down, diabetes going down, >> everything obesity related and and and >> everything obesity related and and and >> everything obesity related and and and blood sugar related. And what's going to blood sugar related. And what's going to blood sugar related. And what's going to happen when all the sudden the social happen when all the sudden the social happen when all the sudden the social security bill click click click click security bill click click click click security bill click click click click click? You're not We're already on the click? You're not We're already on the click? You're not We're already on the verge, right? We're verge, right? We're verge, right? We're >> 40 billion. I mean, it's going to >> 40 billion. I mean, it's going to >> 40 billion. I mean, it's going to bankrupt the country as we continue down bankrupt the country as we continue down bankrupt the country as we continue down this line. So, they're going to figure this line. So, they're going to figure this line. So, they're going to figure that out. that out. that out. >> They're going to have to. >> They're going to have to. >> They're going to have to. >> You also have entire industries that um >> You also have entire industries that um >> You also have entire industries that um are are losing money because they um are are are losing money because they um are are are losing money because they um are there to treat um all of the nasty side there to treat um all of the nasty side there to treat um all of the nasty side effects of obesity and poor health. all effects of obesity and poor health. all effects of obesity and poor health. all the medications and then again snack the medications and then again snack the medications and then again snack food companies are reporting losses. food companies are reporting losses. food companies are reporting losses. >> Uh clothing companies are changing how >> Uh clothing companies are changing how >> Uh clothing companies are changing how they purchase and make sizes and so they purchase and make sizes and so they purchase and make sizes and so we're already seeing this being reported we're already seeing this being reported we're already seeing this being reported and we only have I think the last time and we only have I think the last time and we only have I think the last time we looked how many what percentage of we looked how many what percentage of we looked how many what percentage of Americans were on a geop like 20%. Americans were on a geop like 20%. Americans were on a geop like 20%. That's going to go up to probably 3/4. That's going to go up to probably 3/4. That's going to go up to probably 3/4. Well, where are they right now too with Well, where are they right now too with Well, where are they right now too with the oral options? Because I know that the oral options? Because I know that the oral options? Because I know that for sure is going to like that's the for sure is going to like that's the for sure is going to like that's the last sort of barrier I see with, you last sort of barrier I see with, you last sort of barrier I see with, you know, know, know, >> they've got them. Yeah, we've got oral >> they've got them. Yeah, we've got oral >> they've got them. Yeah, we've got oral options. I mean, there's oral options options. I mean, there's oral options options. I mean, there's oral options available. The downside is is our available. The downside is is our available. The downside is is our stomachs are so damn acidic. stomachs are so damn acidic. stomachs are so damn acidic. >> Like, it breaks it down. So, you got to >> Like, it breaks it down. So, you got to >> Like, it breaks it down. So, you got to take I believe it's like a twopoint Dr. take I believe it's like a twopoint Dr. take I believe it's like a twopoint Dr. Dan is is our our main guy on this. I Dan is is our our main guy on this. I Dan is is our our main guy on this. I think it's like a 2.8% bioavailability think it's like a 2.8% bioavailability think it's like a 2.8% bioavailability on the pill. So, you've got to take like on the pill. So, you've got to take like on the pill. So, you've got to take like 30 times the dose to get the absorption. 30 times the dose to get the absorption. 30 times the dose to get the absorption. Um it works but Um it works but Um it works but >> it's does it work as well when you get >> it's does it work as well when you get >> it's does it work as well when you get report when people report back or they report when people report back or they report when people report back or they >> People have reported back I'm not the >> People have reported back I'm not the >> People have reported back I'm not the the keen on this one but uh people have the keen on this one but uh people have the keen on this one but uh people have reported back good I just think that the reported back good I just think that the reported back good I just think that the there's nothing like injectable anything there's nothing like injectable anything there's nothing like injectable anything like our stomachs are the na the like I like our stomachs are the na the like I like our stomachs are the na the like I use nasal I use you know the troies use nasal I use you know the troies use nasal I use you know the troies listen listen listen >> there's nothing better than injectable >> there's nothing better than injectable >> there's nothing better than injectable the bioavailability is just so high and the bioavailability is just so high and the bioavailability is just so high and so yeah I mean I uh I think that it's so yeah I mean I uh I think that it's so yeah I mean I uh I think that it's going to it's going to be a big it's going to it's going to be a big it's going to it's going to be a big it's going to going to going to the games. But we don't even talk about the games. But we don't even talk about the games. But we don't even talk about the real side effects of these products. the real side effects of these products. the real side effects of these products. We talk about side effects all the times We talk about side effects all the times We talk about side effects all the times of GLP ones and like oh the blindness to of GLP ones and like oh the blindness to of GLP ones and like oh the blindness to this. this. this. >> What about like evisceration of heart >> What about like evisceration of heart >> What about like evisceration of heart disease, diabetes, cancers, I mean all disease, diabetes, cancers, I mean all disease, diabetes, cancers, I mean all of this of this of this >> the stuff you mentioned is so low even >> the stuff you mentioned is so low even >> the stuff you mentioned is so low even in the data is so low. The risk of these in the data is so low. The risk of these in the data is so low. The risk of these things is so I'm not taking it away. things is so I'm not taking it away. things is so I'm not taking it away. >> You're right. The the biggest risk is uh >> You're right. The the biggest risk is uh >> You're right. The the biggest risk is uh you if you don't if you just do it and you if you don't if you just do it and you if you don't if you just do it and don't monitor protein and strength don't monitor protein and strength don't monitor protein and strength training, you lose a bunch of muscle. training, you lose a bunch of muscle. training, you lose a bunch of muscle. That's the risk That's the risk That's the risk >> 100%. >> 100%. >> 100%. >> That's the big risk that everybody's >> That's the big risk that everybody's >> That's the big risk that everybody's going to run into unless you approve. going to run into unless you approve. going to run into unless you approve. >> And and most of these people that are >> And and most of these people that are >> And and most of these people that are taking it, they don't have any taking it, they don't have any taking it, they don't have any discipline. So, they need trainers. discipline. So, they need trainers. discipline. So, they need trainers. >> Like we tell them all the time, we >> Like we tell them all the time, we >> Like we tell them all the time, we launched an app to like give them launched an app to like give them launched an app to like give them training, but I'm still like, please training, but I'm still like, please training, but I'm still like, please God, get a trainer. God, get a trainer. God, get a trainer. >> Like, do something. You need an >> Like, do something. You need an >> Like, do something. You need an accountability buddy. accountability buddy. accountability buddy. >> That's what you need. Like, everybody >> That's what you need. Like, everybody >> That's what you need. Like, everybody needs an accountability. I need an needs an accountability. I need an needs an accountability. I need an accountability buddy on the basic daily accountability buddy on the basic daily accountability buddy on the basic daily [ __ ] that I do. Like, Phil, did you get [ __ ] that I do. Like, Phil, did you get [ __ ] that I do. Like, Phil, did you get that meeting? [ __ ] I missed the that meeting? [ __ ] I missed the that meeting? [ __ ] I missed the meeting. meeting. meeting. >> But you need someone to help you, you >> But you need someone to help you, you >> But you need someone to help you, you know, along your pathway. It's not just know, along your pathway. It's not just know, along your pathway. It's not just having a person there to tell you what having a person there to tell you what having a person there to tell you what to do. It's just holding you accountable to do. It's just holding you accountable to do. It's just holding you accountable for doing what you said you were going for doing what you said you were going for doing what you said you were going to do. You obviously got fat and weren't to do. You obviously got fat and weren't to do. You obviously got fat and weren't in shape and all this other stuff. Now in shape and all this other stuff. Now in shape and all this other stuff. Now you have a cheat code. It is you have a cheat code. It is you have a cheat code. It is >> ompic and and and all these are all >> ompic and and and all these are all >> ompic and and and all these are all cheat they're a cheat code guaranteed cheat they're a cheat code guaranteed cheat they're a cheat code guaranteed insurance policy. insurance policy. insurance policy. >> But if you get a trainer on top of it, >> But if you get a trainer on top of it, >> But if you get a trainer on top of it, >> trainer should give a good amount of >> trainer should give a good amount of >> trainer should give a good amount of nutritional data to you, right? nutritional data to you, right? nutritional data to you, right? >> We've had a lot of success. We've had >> We've had a lot of success. We've had >> We've had a lot of success. We've had some great success so far, Phil, with some great success so far, Phil, with some great success so far, Phil, with people who've worked with our coaches people who've worked with our coaches people who've worked with our coaches >> who've been on a GLP1 who were able to >> who've been on a GLP1 who were able to >> who've been on a GLP1 who were able to come off the GLP1, come off the GLP1, come off the GLP1, >> create new >> create new >> create new >> with an with a, you know, scale down >> with an with a, you know, scale down >> with an with a, you know, scale down kind of process, develop new behaviors, kind of process, develop new behaviors, kind of process, develop new behaviors, new disciplines, new ways to approach new disciplines, new ways to approach new disciplines, new ways to approach when the hunger comes back. when the hunger comes back. when the hunger comes back. >> Dr. Seeds communicated this really well, >> Dr. Seeds communicated this really well, >> Dr. Seeds communicated this really well, too. All the neural pathways that you uh too. All the neural pathways that you uh too. All the neural pathways that you uh had developed around certain behaviors, had developed around certain behaviors, had developed around certain behaviors, they start to weaken after you're on a they start to weaken after you're on a they start to weaken after you're on a GLP1 for 6 months or a year because GLP1 for 6 months or a year because GLP1 for 6 months or a year because you're not strengthening them. We've had you're not strengthening them. We've had you're not strengthening them. We've had good success when people come off and good success when people come off and good success when people come off and and the ones that are like, "Uh oh, I and the ones that are like, "Uh oh, I and the ones that are like, "Uh oh, I think I need to go back on." They go on think I need to go back on." They go on think I need to go back on." They go on a little bit and they come back off, a little bit and they come back off, a little bit and they come back off, which I think is great because I think which I think is great because I think which I think is great because I think the the concept of having to stay on the the concept of having to stay on the the concept of having to stay on something forever, I think that turns something forever, I think that turns something forever, I think that turns off a lot of people. But I think if you off a lot of people. But I think if you off a lot of people. But I think if you do it right, uh this is the best tool do it right, uh this is the best tool do it right, uh this is the best tool I've ever seen as a trainer ever. I've I've ever seen as a trainer ever. I've I've ever seen as a trainer ever. I've never seen a tool as effective as if I never seen a tool as effective as if I never seen a tool as effective as if I had this 15 years ago. had this 15 years ago. had this 15 years ago. >> I'm just kidding. >> I'm just kidding. >> I'm just kidding. >> Trying to get back. >> Trying to get back. >> Trying to get back. That's good. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. >> So you guys are the are you guys the uh >> So you guys are the are you guys the uh >> So you guys are the are you guys the uh you and another company are the only you and another company are the only you and another company are the only ones kind of doing monthly membership? ones kind of doing monthly membership? ones kind of doing monthly membership? >> You know, there's a few that have come >> You know, there's a few that have come >> You know, there's a few that have come out over the over the time period from out over the over the time period from out over the over the time period from an end to end holistic from an end to an end to end holistic from an end to an end to end holistic from an end to end like literally from front to back. end like literally from front to back. end like literally from front to back. Anything to do with health, anything to Anything to do with health, anything to Anything to do with health, anything to do with your body, your look, how you do with your body, your look, how you do with your body, your look, how you feel, how you show up every day. We're feel, how you show up every day. We're feel, how you show up every day. We're the only one that offers offers it end the only one that offers offers it end the only one that offers offers it end to end. There's a couple that come out to end. There's a couple that come out to end. There's a couple that come out and they offer a number of different and they offer a number of different and they offer a number of different products, but the good part is is great, products, but the good part is is great, products, but the good part is is great, but then you still have to pay crazy but then you still have to pay crazy but then you still have to pay crazy money. So, not only you doing a money. So, not only you doing a money. So, not only you doing a membership, but now you're still membership, but now you're still membership, but now you're still charging stupid money for meds. The charging stupid money for meds. The charging stupid money for meds. The reason why we did our membership is just reason why we did our membership is just reason why we did our membership is just to control opex, to control opex, to control opex, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And I lose money on the business. Like, >> And I lose money on the business. Like, >> And I lose money on the business. Like, people don't get this. They're like, people don't get this. They're like, people don't get this. They're like, "You're printing cash." No, because I "You're printing cash." No, because I "You're printing cash." No, because I don't give a [ __ ] I didn't build this don't give a [ __ ] I didn't build this don't give a [ __ ] I didn't build this business for money. I built it for a business for money. I built it for a business for money. I built it for a legacy. I built it to change people's legacy. I built it to change people's legacy. I built it to change people's lives. That's the difference is you've lives. That's the difference is you've lives. That's the difference is you've got people that are trying to make it got people that are trying to make it got people that are trying to make it make their money, make all this return make their money, make all this return make their money, make all this return of investment. I don't give a [ __ ] of investment. I don't give a [ __ ] of investment. I don't give a [ __ ] There's nothing I want to buy. There's There's nothing I want to buy. There's There's nothing I want to buy. There's nothing I want to invest in. There's no nothing I want to invest in. There's no nothing I want to invest in. There's no north star of a dollar figure. I'm like, north star of a dollar figure. I'm like, north star of a dollar figure. I'm like, if I just had this much money, I have if I just had this much money, I have if I just had this much money, I have enough money for me to be happy. And so enough money for me to be happy. And so enough money for me to be happy. And so now it's my time to give people the now it's my time to give people the now it's my time to give people the opportunity to literally unlock the best opportunity to literally unlock the best opportunity to literally unlock the best version of themselves. But and and so we version of themselves. But and and so we version of themselves. But and and so we are we are the membership pieces. We're are we are the membership pieces. We're are we are the membership pieces. We're the best of the memberships. There's the best of the memberships. There's the best of the memberships. There's probably by now 10 15 different probably by now 10 15 different probably by now 10 15 different companies of the bigs. Hone is really companies of the bigs. Hone is really companies of the bigs. Hone is really the only one that has a membership. And the only one that has a membership. And the only one that has a membership. And then you've got the ones that are just then you've got the ones that are just then you've got the ones that are just one product memberships, just GLP-1 one product memberships, just GLP-1 one product memberships, just GLP-1 membership or just testosterone. What do membership or just testosterone. What do membership or just testosterone. What do you got? Peter MD, you got all these you got? Peter MD, you got all these you got? Peter MD, you got all these other, other, other, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Who who they just suffer on quality of >> Who who they just suffer on quality of >> Who who they just suffer on quality of care. And maybe one day we do suffer on care. And maybe one day we do suffer on care. And maybe one day we do suffer on quality of care. And guess what? I will quality of care. And guess what? I will quality of care. And guess what? I will slam the pause button on the company slam the pause button on the company slam the pause button on the company because I can. because I can. because I can. >> Nobody can do that. Like that's the >> Nobody can do that. Like that's the >> Nobody can do that. Like that's the difference. No one No one's willing. No difference. No one No one's willing. No difference. No one No one's willing. No one can lose money. one can lose money. one can lose money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No one can lose money. And so >> No one can lose money. And so >> No one can lose money. And so >> I shared a clip with these guys the >> I shared a clip with these guys the >> I shared a clip with these guys the other day. I was actually really other day. I was actually really other day. I was actually really surprised to hear this. I think it was surprised to hear this. I think it was surprised to hear this. I think it was on 60 Minutes with Peter Atia on 60 Minutes with Peter Atia on 60 Minutes with Peter Atia >> and she she did like a rapid fire thing >> and she she did like a rapid fire thing >> and she she did like a rapid fire thing with him and she asked him with him and she asked him with him and she asked him >> most overrated. >> most overrated. >> most overrated. >> Yeah. Most overrated thing in the >> Yeah. Most overrated thing in the >> Yeah. Most overrated thing in the fitness space right now and he said fitness space right now and he said fitness space right now and he said peptides peptides peptides >> and I he round about it though. Did you >> and I he round about it though. Did you >> and I he round about it though. Did you show him the rest of the clip? show him the rest of the clip? show him the rest of the clip? >> So what? No. So what else? >> So what? No. So what else? >> So what? No. So what else? >> He he talked he specifically. So he I >> He he talked he specifically. So he I >> He he talked he specifically. So he I saw the same thing. The rest of the clip saw the same thing. The rest of the clip saw the same thing. The rest of the clip I'm going to give a shout out to Peter. I'm going to give a shout out to Peter. I'm going to give a shout out to Peter. He said because it's research you don't He said because it's research you don't He said because it's research you don't know where they're coming from. He goes, know where they're coming from. He goes, know where they're coming from. He goes, "You need to get them from." So, it's a "You need to get them from." So, it's a "You need to get them from." So, it's a manipulated clip. manipulated clip. manipulated clip. >> You need to get the You need to get the >> You need to get the You need to get the >> You need to get the You need to get the whole clip. It's a manipulated clip. whole clip. It's a manipulated clip. whole clip. It's a manipulated clip. >> Yeah. It's a manipulated. >> Yeah. It's a manipulated. >> Yeah. It's a manipulated. >> I was so surprised. I shared with this >> I was so surprised. I shared with this >> I was so surprised. I shared with this guy cuz I was like, you know, a lot of guy cuz I was like, you know, a lot of guy cuz I was like, you know, a lot of what Peter says aligns with a lot of what Peter says aligns with a lot of what Peter says aligns with a lot of things that we talk about. And I was things that we talk about. And I was things that we talk about. And I was like, "Wow, I'm really surprised that like, "Wow, I'm really surprised that like, "Wow, I'm really surprised that he's he's he's 100% in on peptides. He's 100 He says 100% in on peptides. He's 100 He says 100% in on peptides. He's 100 He says peptides." And then he goes, peptides." And then he goes, peptides." And then he goes, "Specifically research peptides." And "Specifically research peptides." And "Specifically research peptides." And then he goes through and he goes, "You then he goes through and he goes, "You then he goes through and he goes, "You don't know where they're coming from. don't know where they're coming from. don't know where they're coming from. They're not from a lab. They're not from They're not from a lab. They're not from They're not from a lab. They're not from here. They're not QC." So, people here. They're not QC." So, people here. They're not QC." So, people manipulated that. I posted it on our own manipulated that. I posted it on our own manipulated that. I posted it on our own wall and people didn't finish watching wall and people didn't finish watching wall and people didn't finish watching and they're like, "Well, what the [ __ ] and they're like, "Well, what the [ __ ] and they're like, "Well, what the [ __ ] Why am I taking I immediately took it Why am I taking I immediately took it Why am I taking I immediately took it down because I'm like, "Shit, this is down because I'm like, "Shit, this is down because I'm like, "Shit, this is going to cause me a nightmare." And going to cause me a nightmare." And going to cause me a nightmare." And because people didn't want to watch. because people didn't want to watch. because people didn't want to watch. They're like, "Peptides." And then they They're like, "Peptides." And then they They're like, "Peptides." And then they just ended it and immediately sent us a just ended it and immediately sent us a just ended it and immediately sent us a support email. support email. support email. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> And they're like, >> And they're like, >> And they're like, >> "How dare you do that and put Peter and" >> "How dare you do that and put Peter and" >> "How dare you do that and put Peter and" and I'm like, "Oh god, these people and I'm like, "Oh god, these people and I'm like, "Oh god, these people don't want to watch the whole clip." don't want to watch the whole clip." don't want to watch the whole clip." >> Like there's there's 60 seconds up. You >> Like there's there's 60 seconds up. You >> Like there's there's 60 seconds up. You watched eight. watched eight. watched eight. >> Yeah. Well, people have been chopping it >> Yeah. Well, people have been chopping it >> Yeah. Well, people have been chopping it like that. It's chopped to just him like that. It's chopped to just him like that. It's chopped to just him saying that manipulation. Well, that saying that manipulation. Well, that saying that manipulation. Well, that makes sense. Now, it all makes sense. makes sense. Now, it all makes sense. makes sense. Now, it all makes sense. >> He's He's, by the way, I I love the guy. >> He's He's, by the way, I I love the guy. >> He's He's, by the way, I I love the guy. I think he's great. He's a wealth of I think he's great. He's a wealth of I think he's great. He's a wealth of knowledge. I just hate how he knowledge. I just hate how he knowledge. I just hate how he flip-flops. But that's also a good flip-flops. But that's also a good flip-flops. But that's also a good thing. He's one of the only doctors thing. He's one of the only doctors thing. He's one of the only doctors >> that come out, he'll say, "I changed my >> that come out, he'll say, "I changed my >> that come out, he'll say, "I changed my mind." mind." mind." >> Strong on one product, and when he gets >> Strong on one product, and when he gets >> Strong on one product, and when he gets enough research, enough research, enough research, >> he'll change his mind. And the level of >> he'll change his mind. And the level of >> he'll change his mind. And the level of respect that you have to have for respect that you have to have for respect that you have to have for somebody like that is hard because they somebody like that is hard because they somebody like that is hard because they he goes hard. When he believes in he goes hard. When he believes in he goes hard. When he believes in something, he goes hard. something, he goes hard. something, he goes hard. >> Yeah. I feel like we're like that. Yeah, >> Yeah. I feel like we're like that. Yeah, >> Yeah. I feel like we're like that. Yeah, I mean we're I mean we're I mean we're >> lane's like that. Lane's done that. >> lane's like that. Lane's done that. >> lane's like that. Lane's done that. >> I think we we we we'll be staunch about >> I think we we we we'll be staunch about >> I think we we we we'll be staunch about something until the research comes out something until the research comes out something until the research comes out and we're proved otherwise. But be the and we're proved otherwise. But be the and we're proved otherwise. But be the first ones to admit it though when when first ones to admit it though when when first ones to admit it though when when it does. I mean we were that way on EAS. it does. I mean we were that way on EAS. it does. I mean we were that way on EAS. Remember how we were on EAS? Remember how we were on EAS? Remember how we were on EAS? >> We talked a lot of [ __ ] about it for a >> We talked a lot of [ __ ] about it for a >> We talked a lot of [ __ ] about it for a very long time and then uh was blown very long time and then uh was blown very long time and then uh was blown away by some of the research and studies away by some of the research and studies away by some of the research and studies and said, "Okay, it makes sense for this and said, "Okay, it makes sense for this and said, "Okay, it makes sense for this person in this situation." Like I get person in this situation." Like I get person in this situation." Like I get it. it. it. >> What do you guys think about like some >> What do you guys think about like some >> What do you guys think about like some of these new drugs that are coming? I of these new drugs that are coming? I of these new drugs that are coming? I say new newer, right? All right, the say new newer, right? All right, the say new newer, right? All right, the Samorland, not Samorland. All that's Samorland, not Samorland. All that's Samorland, not Samorland. All that's been around for a while, but Sloop and been around for a while, but Sloop and been around for a while, but Sloop and Mati and all these other products that Mati and all these other products that Mati and all these other products that people are coming out with, which by the people are coming out with, which by the people are coming out with, which by the way, I just jumped on them right now. way, I just jumped on them right now. way, I just jumped on them right now. So, before I get So, before I get So, before I get >> SH's taking them all taking them all, I >> SH's taking them all taking them all, I >> SH's taking them all taking them all, I I have my like the BPC and um what's the I have my like the BPC and um what's the I have my like the BPC and um what's the replacement of that right now? replacement of that right now? replacement of that right now? >> Yeah, PDA. >> Yeah, PDA. >> Yeah, PDA. >> Uh I think between those and GLP-1, >> Uh I think between those and GLP-1, >> Uh I think between those and GLP-1, everything else pales in comparison in everything else pales in comparison in everything else pales in comparison in my opinion my opinion my opinion >> and I've tried a lot I've tried a lot of >> and I've tried a lot I've tried a lot of >> and I've tried a lot I've tried a lot of them. Uh, but I I've been injured a lot them. Uh, but I I've been injured a lot them. Uh, but I I've been injured a lot of times, played sports and stuff like of times, played sports and stuff like of times, played sports and stuff like that, and I've know what it's like to that, and I've know what it's like to that, and I've know what it's like to recover from an injury without BPC. And recover from an injury without BPC. And recover from an injury without BPC. And then with it, it is it's literally 50% then with it, it is it's literally 50% then with it, it is it's literally 50% of their recovery time. I like half. So, of their recovery time. I like half. So, of their recovery time. I like half. So, if you're something that whatever injury if you're something that whatever injury if you're something that whatever injury you have, it should take 16 weeks, you have, it should take 16 weeks, you have, it should take 16 weeks, whatever, half the recovery time. That's whatever, half the recovery time. That's whatever, half the recovery time. That's that's miraculous to me. that's miraculous to me. that's miraculous to me. >> I throw in so we throw in a I throw in >> I throw in so we throw in a I throw in >> I throw in so we throw in a I throw in nelone all the time when we do this. nelone all the time when we do this. nelone all the time when we do this. Nangelone is a fantastic product. Nangelone is a fantastic product. Nangelone is a fantastic product. >> And I would say thyus beta with that, >> And I would say thyus beta with that, >> And I would say thyus beta with that, right? also. So, right? also. So, right? also. So, >> so yeah, bodybuilder, >> so yeah, bodybuilder, >> so yeah, bodybuilder, >> it's a it's a 500% increase in collagen. >> it's a it's a 500% increase in collagen. >> it's a it's a 500% increase in collagen. It's the only one that has that type of It's the only one that has that type of It's the only one that has that type of in low doses, it's good. You still got a in low doses, it's good. You still got a in low doses, it's good. You still got a problem down there. problem down there. problem down there. >> Yeah, we know how good all that stuff >> Yeah, we know how good all that stuff >> Yeah, we know how good all that stuff works. That's But as far as the OG, we works. That's But as far as the OG, we works. That's But as far as the OG, we know how good all that stuff works. know how good all that stuff works. know how good all that stuff works. >> Welcome to the OG network. >> Welcome to the OG network. >> Welcome to the OG network. >> But from the peptide space, I've been >> But from the peptide space, I've been >> But from the peptide space, I've been most impressed with those. Those are the most impressed with those. Those are the most impressed with those. Those are the ones that I think uh and we've we've ones that I think uh and we've we've ones that I think uh and we've we've tried a lot. Matsi, Cmax, tried the and tried a lot. Matsi, Cmax, tried the and tried a lot. Matsi, Cmax, tried the and he's messed with everything. he's messed with everything. he's messed with everything. >> I think I think Sloop's interesting. >> I think I think Sloop's interesting. >> I think I think Sloop's interesting. I've seen the reviews and some people I've seen the reviews and some people I've seen the reviews and some people rave about it. I tried Sloop. That's rave about it. I tried Sloop. That's rave about it. I tried Sloop. That's right. right. right. >> Won't say who recommended it to me or >> Won't say who recommended it to me or >> Won't say who recommended it to me or the dose they recommended. Let's just the dose they recommended. Let's just the dose they recommended. Let's just say it's a buddy of mine that gets a say it's a buddy of mine that gets a say it's a buddy of mine that gets a little overzealous. little overzealous. little overzealous. >> And he and I was taking a such a crazy I >> And he and I was taking a such a crazy I >> And he and I was taking a such a crazy I didn't know it was a crazy dose, but didn't know it was a crazy dose, but didn't know it was a crazy dose, but he's like, "No, no, try this. You'll he's like, "No, no, try this. You'll he's like, "No, no, try this. You'll love it." Couldn't sleep. I felt love it." Couldn't sleep. I felt love it." Couldn't sleep. I felt terrible. It was like too much. So, I terrible. It was like too much. So, I terrible. It was like too much. So, I haven't touched it since. Matzi, haven't touched it since. Matzi, haven't touched it since. Matzi, amazing. I felt so good. And some people amazing. I felt so good. And some people amazing. I felt so good. And some people take it, they don't notice anything. take it, they don't notice anything. take it, they don't notice anything. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. >> I just I >> I just I >> I just I >> I just had our docs build the protocol >> I just had our docs build the protocol >> I just had our docs build the protocol on Mi and I'm like all right guys, you on Mi and I'm like all right guys, you on Mi and I'm like all right guys, you know, build the protocol on Mati. They know, build the protocol on Mati. They know, build the protocol on Mati. They come back to me in like 3 hours fully come back to me in like 3 hours fully come back to me in like 3 hours fully done. And I'm like, really? And he goes, done. And I'm like, really? And he goes, done. And I'm like, really? And he goes, Phil, there was more research that we Phil, there was more research that we Phil, there was more research that we found on Matsi than some of the stuff found on Matsi than some of the stuff found on Matsi than some of the stuff that we've had around for forever. He that we've had around for forever. He that we've had around for forever. He goes, cuz we pulled 15 studies in a goes, cuz we pulled 15 studies in a goes, cuz we pulled 15 studies in a matter of 20 minutes. We fully matter of 20 minutes. We fully matter of 20 minutes. We fully protocolled it out. We got it built. And protocolled it out. We got it built. And protocolled it out. We got it built. And I'm like, there's no way. And he goes, I'm like, there's no way. And he goes, I'm like, there's no way. And he goes, this is amazing. this is amazing. this is amazing. >> It's one of my favorites. It's one of my >> It's one of my favorites. It's one of my >> It's one of my favorites. It's one of my favorites. Yeah. I took it and I just favorites. Yeah. I took it and I just favorites. Yeah. I took it and I just had this incredible difference in energy had this incredible difference in energy had this incredible difference in energy and well-being. I know Justin had a good and well-being. I know Justin had a good and well-being. I know Justin had a good experience from it. experience from it. experience from it. >> It's good energy. >> It's good energy. >> It's good energy. >> You take glutathione. >> You take glutathione. >> You take glutathione. >> Uh glutathione I'll use occasionally. >> Uh glutathione I'll use occasionally. >> Uh glutathione I'll use occasionally. You know, when I use glutathione, I'll You know, when I use glutathione, I'll You know, when I use glutathione, I'll use injectable glutathione if I drink. use injectable glutathione if I drink. use injectable glutathione if I drink. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Then I'll use it. Or if I'm getting >> Then I'll use it. Or if I'm getting >> Then I'll use it. Or if I'm getting sick, sick, sick, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> then I'll use it. Uh my wife has a >> then I'll use it. Uh my wife has a >> then I'll use it. Uh my wife has a really bad reaction from alcohol. If she really bad reaction from alcohol. If she really bad reaction from alcohol. If she drinks sometimes she'll wake up in the drinks sometimes she'll wake up in the drinks sometimes she'll wake up in the middle of night, sweat, won't feel good. middle of night, sweat, won't feel good. middle of night, sweat, won't feel good. If I give her glutathione, then she that If I give her glutathione, then she that If I give her glutathione, then she that doesn't happen to her. So that's that's doesn't happen to her. So that's that's doesn't happen to her. So that's that's the other one. Glutathione, NAD are the other one. Glutathione, NAD are the other one. Glutathione, NAD are solid, especially for situations like solid, especially for situations like solid, especially for situations like that. that. that. >> Yeah. Um, so NAD, >> Yeah. Um, so NAD, >> Yeah. Um, so NAD, >> we've got a little under 100 meds, and >> we've got a little under 100 meds, and >> we've got a little under 100 meds, and NAD represents almost 40% NAD represents almost 40% NAD represents almost 40% entire company's revenue. entire company's revenue. entire company's revenue. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Really? I told >> Really? I told >> Really? I told >> I told these guys, we've done we've done >> I told these guys, we've done we've done >> I told these guys, we've done we've done every we've done everything from the every we've done everything from the every we've done everything from the patch, the IV, all the stuff, patch, the IV, all the stuff, patch, the IV, all the stuff, liposomaal, whatever. Um, and I went liposomaal, whatever. Um, and I went liposomaal, whatever. Um, and I went through something I shared on the show a through something I shared on the show a through something I shared on the show a couple months back where I came off couple months back where I came off couple months back where I came off ofratom. I had a catratom addiction. ofratom. I had a catratom addiction. ofratom. I had a catratom addiction. Came off of it, had some of the worst Came off of it, had some of the worst Came off of it, had some of the worst opiate withdrawals I' ever had in my opiate withdrawals I' ever had in my opiate withdrawals I' ever had in my life. And uh, went and got a NAD drip life. And uh, went and got a NAD drip life. And uh, went and got a NAD drip and it was like crazy what a difference and it was like crazy what a difference and it was like crazy what a difference I felt like. And that was what sold me. I felt like. And that was what sold me. I felt like. And that was what sold me. Like I'd already messed with it enough Like I'd already messed with it enough Like I'd already messed with it enough times like, "Oh, I think I feel a little times like, "Oh, I think I feel a little times like, "Oh, I think I feel a little bit better." Take your crash your body bit better." Take your crash your body bit better." Take your crash your body and your health really, really bad and and your health really, really bad and and your health really, really bad and then take it and you can feel a night then take it and you can feel a night then take it and you can feel a night and day difference. that was enough for and day difference. that was enough for and day difference. that was enough for me to be sold on like okay this is this me to be sold on like okay this is this me to be sold on like okay this is this is definitely working especially in a is definitely working especially in a is definitely working especially in a situation like that so I'm sold on NAD I situation like that so I'm sold on NAD I situation like that so I'm sold on NAD I use glutathione so there's a lot of them use glutathione so there's a lot of them use glutathione so there's a lot of them out there I think there's a lot though out there I think there's a lot though out there I think there's a lot though that like I didn't I didn't feel much that like I didn't I didn't feel much that like I didn't I didn't feel much from tessamoran ibutamorin felt the from tessamoran ibutamorin felt the from tessamoran ibutamorin felt the appetite increase and I felt my sleep so appetite increase and I felt my sleep so appetite increase and I felt my sleep so I did like that so I felt the I felt I did like that so I felt the I felt I did like that so I felt the I felt >> combined the BPC and uh thymus and beta >> combined the BPC and uh thymus and beta >> combined the BPC and uh thymus and beta or or TV500 and that's like amazing or or TV500 and that's like amazing or or TV500 and that's like amazing >> well yeah >> well yeah >> well yeah >> that's I mean you get performance >> that's I mean you get performance >> that's I mean you get performance enhancement uh effects from that at enhancement uh effects from that at enhancement uh effects from that at least I in the gym. So that's a good least I in the gym. So that's a good least I in the gym. So that's a good >> recovery. Yes. Wolverine snack. That's >> recovery. Yes. Wolverine snack. That's >> recovery. Yes. Wolverine snack. That's >> amazing. I think I think all the GHRPS >> amazing. I think I think all the GHRPS >> amazing. I think I think all the GHRPS have been fantastic. I just think you have been fantastic. I just think you have been fantastic. I just think you got to get the right dose, right? got to get the right dose, right? got to get the right dose, right? Samorland, Tessimorland, impor CJC, Samorland, Tessimorland, impor CJC, Samorland, Tessimorland, impor CJC, implan I think probably the best one cuz implan I think probably the best one cuz implan I think probably the best one cuz 500 synergistic. 500 synergistic. 500 synergistic. >> Part of me feels like I'm jaded because >> Part of me feels like I'm jaded because >> Part of me feels like I'm jaded because I've taken regular human growth. Real I've taken regular human growth. Real I've taken regular human growth. Real growth. Yeah, real growth for a long growth. Yeah, real growth for a long growth. Yeah, real growth for a long time. So, and I if so, if you compare to time. So, and I if so, if you compare to time. So, and I if so, if you compare to that, I just I feel like it's hard. that, I just I feel like it's hard. that, I just I feel like it's hard. >> I mean, you're talking about a scooter >> I mean, you're talking about a scooter >> I mean, you're talking about a scooter and a crotch rocket. and a crotch rocket. and a crotch rocket. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that's >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that's >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So that's >> I mean these are >> I mean these are >> I mean these are >> that's probably why I'm I'm I feel that >> that's probably why I'm I'm I feel that >> that's probably why I'm I'm I feel that way about it cuz I'm just like yeah way about it cuz I'm just like yeah way about it cuz I'm just like yeah >> I mean there's nothing like that. I >> I mean there's nothing like that. I >> I mean there's nothing like that. I think that but I also think that like think that but I also think that like think that but I also think that like there's little things that you can do there's little things that you can do there's little things that you can do like with certain peptides even with like with certain peptides even with like with certain peptides even with testosterone basic stuff like people testosterone basic stuff like people testosterone basic stuff like people they're on cipinate cypionate their they're on cipinate cypionate their they're on cipinate cypionate their whole their whole life. And I was like whole their whole life. And I was like whole their whole life. And I was like have you tried tribl have you done like have you tried tribl have you done like have you tried tribl have you done like propionate and antinate and cipionate propionate and antinate and cipionate propionate and antinate and cipionate together? And they're like what's that? together? And they're like what's that? together? And they're like what's that? And you're like And you're like And you're like >> it it's really good on the days you >> it it's really good on the days you >> it it's really good on the days you inject inject inject >> and like just doing different things. I >> and like just doing different things. I >> and like just doing different things. I mean that's what we've been playing mean that's what we've been playing mean that's what we've been playing with. Oh, so you guys still you guys with. Oh, so you guys still you guys with. Oh, so you guys still you guys will sell those? will sell those? will sell those? >> Oh, yeah. We have every we have every >> Oh, yeah. We have every we have every >> Oh, yeah. We have every we have every one of them. Interesting. And we've got one of them. Interesting. And we've got one of them. Interesting. And we've got them separated. We've got them them separated. We've got them them separated. We've got them connected. We got them together. A connected. We got them together. A connected. We got them together. A >> lot of people don't know this either. >> lot of people don't know this either. >> lot of people don't know this either. The Esther will actually lower the The Esther will actually lower the The Esther will actually lower the amount of testosterone that's available. amount of testosterone that's available. amount of testosterone that's available. So like testosterone propriate at 100 So like testosterone propriate at 100 So like testosterone propriate at 100 milligrams is more than 100 milligrams milligrams is more than 100 milligrams milligrams is more than 100 milligrams at anate because some of it's locked up. at anate because some of it's locked up. at anate because some of it's locked up. And And And >> and what's crazier is you got these >> and what's crazier is you got these >> and what's crazier is you got these clinics that are doing one injection a clinics that are doing one injection a clinics that are doing one injection a week. I think that's criminal. Yeah. week. I think that's criminal. Yeah. week. I think that's criminal. Yeah. >> Like what's wrong? And then they're >> Like what's wrong? And then they're >> Like what's wrong? And then they're like, "Yeah, my Listen, first of all, like, "Yeah, my Listen, first of all, like, "Yeah, my Listen, first of all, minimum twice a week. Minimum. I don't minimum twice a week. Minimum. I don't minimum twice a week. Minimum. I don't care what anybody I've got enough labs care what anybody I've got enough labs care what anybody I've got enough labs because there's a lot of people that are because there's a lot of people that are because there's a lot of people that are smart. They've got a lot of knowledge, a smart. They've got a lot of knowledge, a smart. They've got a lot of knowledge, a lot of studying. I've got applied lot of studying. I've got applied lot of studying. I've got applied knowledge. It's completely different. I knowledge. It's completely different. I knowledge. It's completely different. I get to see the labs on a daily basis. I get to see the labs on a daily basis. I get to see the labs on a daily basis. I get to watch humans like a Monday, get to watch humans like a Monday, get to watch humans like a Monday, Thursday Thursday Thursday >> is absolutely fantastic, right? Just cuz >> is absolutely fantastic, right? Just cuz >> is absolutely fantastic, right? Just cuz you you get a you get a more of a you you get a you get a more of a you you get a you get a more of a baseline and then you do three different baseline and then you do three different baseline and then you do three different Esther and then so now you get a really Esther and then so now you get a really Esther and then so now you get a really cool little map on that and and I'm cool little map on that and and I'm cool little map on that and and I'm lucky enough I can take my labs on a lucky enough I can take my labs on a lucky enough I can take my labs on a daily basis if I wanted to or weekly daily basis if I wanted to or weekly daily basis if I wanted to or weekly basis. And so then you've got other cool basis. And so then you've got other cool basis. And so then you've got other cool things that we've also introduced is we things that we've also introduced is we things that we've also introduced is we now mix the anestroyl in with the now mix the anestroyl in with the now mix the anestroyl in with the testosterone oil because I got tired of testosterone oil because I got tired of testosterone oil because I got tired of the men. Men are dumb. We're just the men. Men are dumb. We're just the men. Men are dumb. We're just stupid. We're ego. We're forget. You get stupid. We're ego. We're forget. You get stupid. We're ego. We're forget. You get your testosterone shut. You're gone. I your testosterone shut. You're gone. I your testosterone shut. You're gone. I forgot. But wow, I forgot what happened. forgot. But wow, I forgot what happened. forgot. But wow, I forgot what happened. >> So you're putting it in the >> So you're putting it in the >> So you're putting it in the testosterone. testosterone. testosterone. >> Yeah. So we mix it within the oils. We >> Yeah. So we mix it within the oils. We >> Yeah. So we mix it within the oils. We put the herbex inside of the oil. put the herbex inside of the oil. put the herbex inside of the oil. >> Oh, interesting. >> Oh, interesting. >> Oh, interesting. >> Well, that's kind of smart. >> Well, that's kind of smart. >> Well, that's kind of smart. >> That way you don't forget it. And so I >> That way you don't forget it. And so I >> That way you don't forget it. And so I got tired of the support emails and got tired of the support emails and got tired of the support emails and calls and they're like, "Hey, you know, calls and they're like, "Hey, you know, calls and they're like, "Hey, you know, my nipples hurt." And I'm like, "Listen, my nipples hurt." And I'm like, "Listen, my nipples hurt." And I'm like, "Listen, did you?" He's like, "Oh, I forgot." So did you?" He's like, "Oh, I forgot." So did you?" He's like, "Oh, I forgot." So now we just removed now we just removed now we just removed >> interesting >> interesting >> interesting >> all of that. You put 0.25 or 0.5 in with >> all of that. You put 0.25 or 0.5 in with >> all of that. You put 0.25 or 0.5 in with the oil so that way when they get their the oil so that way when they get their the oil so that way when they get their shot. shot. shot. >> That's smart. >> That's smart. >> That's smart. >> It automatically hits the body. And then >> It automatically hits the body. And then >> It automatically hits the body. And then I ran a ton of studies recently on I ran a ton of studies recently on I ran a ton of studies recently on oxangelone because we got everybody just oxangelone because we got everybody just oxangelone because we got everybody just hits us up every day for this. hits us up every day for this. hits us up every day for this. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> that's Anavar. >> that's Anavar. >> that's Anavar. >> Yeah, Anavar. And so like the guys like >> Yeah, Anavar. And so like the guys like >> Yeah, Anavar. And so like the guys like I want 50 milligrams. I was like, you I want 50 milligrams. I was like, you I want 50 milligrams. I was like, you realize if you took like 10 in the realize if you took like 10 in the realize if you took like 10 in the morning, 10 at night, that would crush morning, 10 at night, that would crush morning, 10 at night, that would crush 50 in the morning. 50 in the morning. 50 in the morning. >> Wow. And so when you watch it on the >> Wow. And so when you watch it on the >> Wow. And so when you watch it on the graph and you see the levels and you see graph and you see the levels and you see graph and you see the levels and you see like the exper like this the little tiny like the exper like this the little tiny like the exper like this the little tiny things that we do that is different from things that we do that is different from things that we do that is different from some of these other companies. Same some of these other companies. Same some of these other companies. Same thing with our injury recovery thing with our injury recovery thing with our injury recovery protocols, adding Nangelone and BPC. protocols, adding Nangelone and BPC. protocols, adding Nangelone and BPC. Like Like Like >> these are great products, but when you >> these are great products, but when you >> these are great products, but when you pair them and you stack them together, pair them and you stack them together, pair them and you stack them together, >> like the synergistic effects. >> like the synergistic effects. >> like the synergistic effects. >> Well, just to echo what you're saying, >> Well, just to echo what you're saying, >> Well, just to echo what you're saying, you know, I I've I've been getting my you know, I I've I've been getting my you know, I I've I've been getting my testosterone through a clinic for, like testosterone through a clinic for, like testosterone through a clinic for, like I said, over a decade now. And I've had I said, over a decade now. And I've had I said, over a decade now. And I've had now now now three, four different doctors that have three, four different doctors that have three, four different doctors that have done it. And they all were on the one done it. And they all were on the one done it. And they all were on the one shot a week thing for me. And I also shot a week thing for me. And I also shot a week thing for me. And I also like I don't know what the term is but like I don't know what the term is but like I don't know what the term is but like my body like so I would spike like my body like so I would spike like my body like so I would spike really hard by day seven I was like really hard by day seven I was like really hard by day seven I was like below what I think oh yeah I was 200 and below what I think oh yeah I was 200 and below what I think oh yeah I was 200 and something something something >> and so then they moved it to like uh a >> and so then they moved it to like uh a >> and so then they moved it to like uh a little bit higher dose still same little bit higher dose still same little bit higher dose still same problem then they went to day six still problem then they went to day six still problem then they went to day six still still a problem day so it end up being still a problem day so it end up being still a problem day so it end up being like every four to five days is what I like every four to five days is what I like every four to five days is what I need to keep that from that huge crash need to keep that from that huge crash need to keep that from that huge crash and so and so and so >> the natural pulsatile release of the >> the natural pulsatile release of the >> the natural pulsatile release of the body is every 3 three and a half days. body is every 3 three and a half days. body is every 3 three and a half days. >> That's the natural pulsatile release of >> That's the natural pulsatile release of >> That's the natural pulsatile release of the body. the body. the body. >> And so if you can stick close to that, >> And so if you can stick close to that, >> And so if you can stick close to that, >> you'll keep a lot better and then you >> you'll keep a lot better and then you >> you'll keep a lot better and then you won't get the big estrogen spikes. You won't get the big estrogen spikes. You won't get the big estrogen spikes. You know, know, know, >> some people are going to subq or doing >> some people are going to subq or doing >> some people are going to subq or doing testosterone subcq. testosterone subcq. testosterone subcq. >> I've heard a lot about this. My brain >> I've heard a lot about this. My brain >> I've heard a lot about this. My brain can't get around it. I just can't pull can't get around it. I just can't pull can't get around it. I just can't pull the oil for three and a half hours the oil for three and a half hours the oil for three and a half hours sitting there like watch watching this sitting there like watch watching this sitting there like watch watching this going through the damn needle. going through the damn needle. going through the damn needle. >> I'm like just sitting there. I feel like >> I'm like just sitting there. I feel like >> I'm like just sitting there. I feel like a Jeopardy song needs to come on. a Jeopardy song needs to come on. a Jeopardy song needs to come on. Just sitting there waiting for the oil Just sitting there waiting for the oil Just sitting there waiting for the oil to come in. to come in. to come in. >> All right. So, Phil, I want to do I got >> All right. So, Phil, I want to do I got >> All right. So, Phil, I want to do I got I'm going to ask you nine rapid fire I'm going to ask you nine rapid fire I'm going to ask you nine rapid fire questions. You're just going to give me questions. You're just going to give me questions. You're just going to give me the best peptide for each of them. the best peptide for each of them. the best peptide for each of them. >> Say it again. >> Say it again. >> Say it again. >> Are you going to give me the best >> Are you going to give me the best >> Are you going to give me the best peptides or whatever for each of the peptides or whatever for each of the peptides or whatever for each of the things that I things that I things that I >> All right. I'll give you your your best. >> All right. I'll give you your your best. >> All right. I'll give you your your best. >> It's got to be It's not a conversation. >> It's got to be It's not a conversation. >> It's got to be It's not a conversation. Just boom. All right. Just boom. All right. Just boom. All right. >> You ready? Gut healing. >> You ready? Gut healing. >> You ready? Gut healing. >> BPC PDA. >> BPC PDA. >> BPC PDA. >> All right. Joint pain and inflammation >> probably >> probably same. Add in glutathione. same. Add in glutathione. same. Add in glutathione. >> All right. uh fat loss, >> All right. uh fat loss, >> All right. uh fat loss, >> true appetite, >> true appetite, >> true appetite, >> muscle recovery, >> muscle strength recovery, muscle >> muscle strength recovery, muscle recovery, I'd probably go CJC in for recovery, I'd probably go CJC in for recovery, I'd probably go CJC in for best effects. best effects. best effects. >> Uh sleep quality, >> Uh sleep quality, >> Uh sleep quality, >> sleep dissip, >> sleep dissip, >> sleep dissip, >> uh anxiety and stress, >> uh anxiety and stress, >> uh anxiety and stress, >> a good woman. >> You guys sell those two. Uh skin, hair, >> You guys sell those two. Uh skin, hair, anti-aging. skin, hair, and anti-aging. anti-aging. skin, hair, and anti-aging. anti-aging. skin, hair, and anti-aging. Uh, GHKCU. You guys could do the glow Uh, GHKCU. You guys could do the glow Uh, GHKCU. You guys could do the glow stacks, but GHKCU is great for skin, stacks, but GHKCU is great for skin, stacks, but GHKCU is great for skin, hair. hair. hair. >> All right. Uh, libido. >> All right. Uh, libido. >> All right. Uh, libido. >> He got PT-141. And we also brought a new >> He got PT-141. And we also brought a new >> He got PT-141. And we also brought a new drug to market, which we'll talk. I want drug to market, which we'll talk. I want drug to market, which we'll talk. I want to definitely get to that, but uh, blood to definitely get to that, but uh, blood to definitely get to that, but uh, blood pump. pump. pump. >> Okay. Uh, brain focus and cognition. >> Okay. Uh, brain focus and cognition. >> Okay. Uh, brain focus and cognition. >> Brain focus and cognition. Let's see >> Brain focus and cognition. Let's see >> Brain focus and cognition. Let's see what's that going through the I like what's that going through the I like what's that going through the I like NAD. It's obviously co-enzyme brain NAD. It's obviously co-enzyme brain NAD. It's obviously co-enzyme brain focus. focus. focus. >> You guys do Cmax >> You guys do Cmax >> You guys do Cmax >> five am five amino MQ I like I like uh >> five am five amino MQ I like I like uh >> five am five amino MQ I like I like uh CMAX Lank I like um SS31 I mean there's CMAX Lank I like um SS31 I mean there's CMAX Lank I like um SS31 I mean there's a ton of stuff there. a ton of stuff there. a ton of stuff there. >> Uh and then injury repair >> Uh and then injury repair >> Uh and then injury repair >> by far PDA uh TB500 and then stack it >> by far PDA uh TB500 and then stack it >> by far PDA uh TB500 and then stack it with some dandelone and some with some dandelone and some with some dandelone and some testosterone on top of it. testosterone on top of it. testosterone on top of it. >> Oh, that'll do it. >> Oh, that'll do it. >> Oh, that'll do it. >> Well, bro, this has been a good time. >> Well, bro, this has been a good time. >> Well, bro, this has been a good time. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. Thanks for coming on the show. >> Yeah. Thanks for coming on the show. >> Yeah. Thanks for coming on the show. It's a lot of fun. I appreciate someone It's a lot of fun. I appreciate someone It's a lot of fun. I appreciate someone like you uh in the space and we'll see like you uh in the space and we'll see like you uh in the space and we'll see what happens. what happens. what happens. >> This has been fun, man. Thank you again. >> This has been fun, man. Thank you again. >> This has been fun, man. Thank you again. >> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. >> All right, I know you like that episode. >> All right, I know you like that episode. >> All right, I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. So, If you did, check this one out. So, If you did, check this one out. So, let's say you decide to do 100 squats let's say you decide to do 100 squats let's say you decide to do 100 squats every single day. What happens to your every single day. What happens to your every single day. What happens to your body? Some pretty cool stuff. body? Some pretty cool stuff. body? Some pretty cool stuff. >> How about this? >> How about this? >> How about this? >> You get stronger if somebody Hey, >> You get stronger if somebody Hey, >> You get stronger if somebody Hey, thanks. You give away the first one for thanks. You give away the first one for thanks. You give away the first one for sure. Actually, you know, uh a lot of sure. Actually, you know, uh a lot of sure. Actually, you know, uh a lot of people um it sounds obvious, but then people um it sounds obvious, but then people um it sounds obvious, but then you have a lot of people like, well, you you have a lot of people like, well, you you have a lot of people like, well, you can't do that every day type of deal. can't do that every day type of deal. can't do that every day type of deal. Uh, you have to do them the right way, Uh, you have to do them the right way, Uh, you have to do them the right way, right?