The Silent Muscle Loss Crisis Nobody Is Talking About | Mind Pump 2878

All right, we're going to talk about a All right, we're going to talk about a big problem that's happening right now. big problem that's happening right now. big problem that's happening right now. The muscle paradox. The muscle paradox. The muscle paradox. Why you're losing muscle while you're Why you're losing muscle while you're Why you're losing muscle while you're trying to lose fat. And we're going to trying to lose fat. And we're going to trying to lose fat. And we're going to talk about how you can fix this. Let's talk about how you can fix this. Let's talk about how you can fix this. Let's talk about it now. talk about it now. talk about it now. >> It's paradoxical. Does feel like this is >> It's paradoxical. Does feel like this is >> It's paradoxical. Does feel like this is going to be the theme for the next like going to be the theme for the next like going to be the theme for the next like uh 5 10 years with the rise of GLP1s. uh 5 10 years with the rise of GLP1s. uh 5 10 years with the rise of GLP1s. Totally like this is going to be an Totally like this is going to be an Totally like this is going to be an ongoing conversation. ongoing conversation. ongoing conversation. >> This is there is a silent Yep. muscle >> This is there is a silent Yep. muscle >> This is there is a silent Yep. muscle loss crisis. that's happening. Now, I loss crisis. that's happening. Now, I loss crisis. that's happening. Now, I want to be clear, uh, this was a crisis want to be clear, uh, this was a crisis want to be clear, uh, this was a crisis before, too. It was just overshadowed by before, too. It was just overshadowed by before, too. It was just overshadowed by the obesity epidemic. Like, we referred the obesity epidemic. Like, we referred the obesity epidemic. Like, we referred to the to the to the >> poor health epidemic. It should have >> poor health epidemic. It should have >> poor health epidemic. It should have been renamed the poor health epidemic, been renamed the poor health epidemic, been renamed the poor health epidemic, but obesity is the but obesity is the but obesity is the >> the clear outward sign of it, right? >> the clear outward sign of it, right? >> the clear outward sign of it, right? It's easy to see when somebody's really It's easy to see when somebody's really It's easy to see when somebody's really overweight. Um, but really, uh, having overweight. Um, but really, uh, having overweight. Um, but really, uh, having too little muscle or too little strength too little muscle or too little strength too little muscle or too little strength or too little quality muscle was a big or too little quality muscle was a big or too little quality muscle was a big part of this problem. And you can see part of this problem. And you can see part of this problem. And you can see this uh in the data. A significant this uh in the data. A significant this uh in the data. A significant percentage of people who get heart percentage of people who get heart percentage of people who get heart disease uh or cancer or chronic disease disease uh or cancer or chronic disease disease uh or cancer or chronic disease are not overweight. Now, the majority are not overweight. Now, the majority are not overweight. Now, the majority are overweight, but there's a are overweight, but there's a are overweight, but there's a significant percentage of people that significant percentage of people that significant percentage of people that are not overweight that get those are not overweight that get those are not overweight that get those problems as well, including diabetes. problems as well, including diabetes. problems as well, including diabetes. Significant to the point where you're Significant to the point where you're Significant to the point where you're talking about millions and millions and talking about millions and millions and talking about millions and millions and millions of people. And when you look at millions of people. And when you look at millions of people. And when you look at people who fall in the category of people who fall in the category of people who fall in the category of obese, what you also see alongside of obese, what you also see alongside of obese, what you also see alongside of it, much more often than not, vast it, much more often than not, vast it, much more often than not, vast majority of the time, is something majority of the time, is something majority of the time, is something called sarcopenia, which is low muscle called sarcopenia, which is low muscle called sarcopenia, which is low muscle mass and weakness. Um, and I'll add to mass and weakness. Um, and I'll add to mass and weakness. Um, and I'll add to this, uh, a better predictor of all this, uh, a better predictor of all this, uh, a better predictor of all cause mortality than simply being cause mortality than simply being cause mortality than simply being overweight, because that's also a overweight, because that's also a overweight, because that's also a predictor, is how weak you are. It's predictor, is how weak you are. It's predictor, is how weak you are. It's actually one, it's actually a better actually one, it's actually a better actually one, it's actually a better predictor. So, this crisis has been predictor. So, this crisis has been predictor. So, this crisis has been happening for a while, but now it's happening for a while, but now it's happening for a while, but now it's going to amp the heck up because now going to amp the heck up because now going to amp the heck up because now what you have is a very powerful medical what you have is a very powerful medical what you have is a very powerful medical intervention the likes of which we've intervention the likes of which we've intervention the likes of which we've never seen, we've never seen anything as never seen, we've never seen anything as never seen, we've never seen anything as effective as a GLP to for weight loss. effective as a GLP to for weight loss. effective as a GLP to for weight loss. uh uh and what this causes if not uh uh and what this causes if not uh uh and what this causes if not handled appropriately is significant handled appropriately is significant handled appropriately is significant muscle loss to the tune of 40% 38 35 to muscle loss to the tune of 40% 38 35 to muscle loss to the tune of 40% 38 35 to 40% of the weight that people are losing 40% of the weight that people are losing 40% of the weight that people are losing right now this is almost half is coming right now this is almost half is coming right now this is almost half is coming from muscle. So it's only going to from muscle. So it's only going to from muscle. So it's only going to amplify uh this problem even more. Well, amplify uh this problem even more. Well, amplify uh this problem even more. Well, it's interesting, too, because um there it's interesting, too, because um there it's interesting, too, because um there was a common thought that obesity or was a common thought that obesity or was a common thought that obesity or people that were obese actually had a people that were obese actually had a people that were obese actually had a little bit more lean muscle to be able little bit more lean muscle to be able little bit more lean muscle to be able to uh withhold this this body mass, to uh withhold this this body mass, to uh withhold this this body mass, which when they did those MRI scans, I which when they did those MRI scans, I which when they did those MRI scans, I mean, they started to show actually mean, they started to show actually mean, they started to show actually sarcopenia was pretty prevalent amongst sarcopenia was pretty prevalent amongst sarcopenia was pretty prevalent amongst a lot of like uh o overweight and and a lot of like uh o overweight and and a lot of like uh o overweight and and obese people as well obese people as well obese people as well >> in a society that um in a culture where >> in a society that um in a culture where >> in a society that um in a culture where activity and hard labor is the norm. So activity and hard labor is the norm. So activity and hard labor is the norm. So let's think 100 years ago that might let's think 100 years ago that might let's think 100 years ago that might have been true. So if you were uh and have been true. So if you were uh and have been true. So if you were uh and this was unlikely back then, but let's this was unlikely back then, but let's this was unlikely back then, but let's say you were overweight, but you also say you were overweight, but you also say you were overweight, but you also worked a physical job, you probably did worked a physical job, you probably did worked a physical job, you probably did have more muscle because you were moving have more muscle because you were moving have more muscle because you were moving more more body weight. But today, um more more body weight. But today, um more more body weight. But today, um obesity is uh closely connected to being obesity is uh closely connected to being obesity is uh closely connected to being seditary. seditary. seditary. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So you're also eat you're not just >> So you're also eat you're not just >> So you're also eat you're not just eating poorly, eating poorly, eating poorly, >> but you're also very seditary. And we're >> but you're also very seditary. And we're >> but you're also very seditary. And we're all seditary like uh just as a all seditary like uh just as a all seditary like uh just as a >> you're not building muscle sitting here. >> you're not building muscle sitting here. >> you're not building muscle sitting here. >> So yeah. So sarcopenia is right along >> So yeah. So sarcopenia is right along >> So yeah. So sarcopenia is right along with it. Uh in fact it's you can bet on with it. Uh in fact it's you can bet on with it. Uh in fact it's you can bet on it if you see if if you yourself are it if you see if if you yourself are it if you see if if you yourself are struggling with being obese or you pick struggling with being obese or you pick struggling with being obese or you pick a hundred people who fall in that a hundred people who fall in that a hundred people who fall in that category and then you test them with an category and then you test them with an category and then you test them with an MRI. Uh like Justin said uh what you're MRI. Uh like Justin said uh what you're MRI. Uh like Justin said uh what you're going to see is also low muscle mass. So going to see is also low muscle mass. So going to see is also low muscle mass. So it's actually both and and low muscle it's actually both and and low muscle it's actually both and and low muscle mass or weak muscles um contribute to mass or weak muscles um contribute to mass or weak muscles um contribute to all kinds of terrible all kinds of terrible all kinds of terrible >> oh lots of problems. >> oh lots of problems. >> oh lots of problems. >> Yes. In fact, an overweight or obese >> Yes. In fact, an overweight or obese >> Yes. In fact, an overweight or obese person who has good quality muscle who person who has good quality muscle who person who has good quality muscle who is strong has better uh mortality is strong has better uh mortality is strong has better uh mortality outcomes than someone who is underweight outcomes than someone who is underweight outcomes than someone who is underweight >> uh with low muscle mass. So, just to go >> uh with low muscle mass. So, just to go >> uh with low muscle mass. So, just to go to show you how big of a a problem this to show you how big of a a problem this to show you how big of a a problem this is or how much it contributes to to poor is or how much it contributes to to poor is or how much it contributes to to poor health. health. health. >> What percentage of GLP1 users do you >> What percentage of GLP1 users do you >> What percentage of GLP1 users do you guys think um are aware of this? Like I guys think um are aware of this? Like I guys think um are aware of this? Like I I believe that they fall in like two I believe that they fall in like two I believe that they fall in like two categories. the GLP1 users, you are categories. the GLP1 users, you are categories. the GLP1 users, you are either completely naive to this and you either completely naive to this and you either completely naive to this and you just you're and you're fixated on the just you're and you're fixated on the just you're and you're fixated on the weight and and not very aware that as weight and and not very aware that as weight and and not very aware that as you lose this weight, you're probably lo you lose this weight, you're probably lo you lose this weight, you're probably lo losing just as much muscle. And then I losing just as much muscle. And then I losing just as much muscle. And then I find there's and it seems that this is a find there's and it seems that this is a find there's and it seems that this is a rising group of G are aware of it rising group of G are aware of it rising group of G are aware of it because there's a lot of people like because there's a lot of people like because there's a lot of people like ourselves that are kind of screaming ourselves that are kind of screaming ourselves that are kind of screaming this from the rooftop that are aware of this from the rooftop that are aware of this from the rooftop that are aware of it that are excited for reat or already it that are excited for reat or already it that are excited for reat or already getting it on the gray market because of getting it on the gray market because of getting it on the gray market because of the what it says about building muscle. the what it says about building muscle. the what it says about building muscle. Yeah. Muscle preservation and even Yeah. Muscle preservation and even Yeah. Muscle preservation and even building muscle in a calorie deficit. building muscle in a calorie deficit. building muscle in a calorie deficit. And so they think it's going to be this And so they think it's going to be this And so they think it's going to be this miracle drug that's going to solve this miracle drug that's going to solve this miracle drug that's going to solve this problem that we're talking about right problem that we're talking about right problem that we're talking about right now. the phase three trials on now. the phase three trials on now. the phase three trials on reddatride actually showed more muscle reddatride actually showed more muscle reddatride actually showed more muscle loss um than tzepide. Uh loss um than tzepide. Uh loss um than tzepide. Uh >> really? >> really? >> really? >> Yes. And now now here's why. Um and so >> Yes. And now now here's why. Um and so >> Yes. And now now here's why. Um and so without getting too deep in the weeds without getting too deep in the weeds without getting too deep in the weeds because people get confused over this um because people get confused over this um because people get confused over this um and I often hear and I often hear and I often hear >> peptide you know social media >> peptide you know social media >> peptide you know social media influencers communicate this uh it these influencers communicate this uh it these influencers communicate this uh it these GLPs do increase or improve insulin GLPs do increase or improve insulin GLPs do increase or improve insulin sensitivity through their mechanisms. sensitivity through their mechanisms. sensitivity through their mechanisms. And insulin sensitivity is good for And insulin sensitivity is good for And insulin sensitivity is good for muscle preservation. But here's what muscle preservation. But here's what muscle preservation. But here's what happens. Redatide is so much more happens. Redatide is so much more happens. Redatide is so much more powerful powerful powerful uh of a appetite suppressor and it also uh of a appetite suppressor and it also uh of a appetite suppressor and it also has a a has a a has a a metabolic boosting effect, a slight one metabolic boosting effect, a slight one metabolic boosting effect, a slight one um that these people are just in a um that these people are just in a um that these people are just in a larger deficit. So I don't care I don't larger deficit. So I don't care I don't larger deficit. So I don't care I don't care uh how many signals you send your care uh how many signals you send your care uh how many signals you send your body to preserve muscle from a chemical body to preserve muscle from a chemical body to preserve muscle from a chemical standpoint. If your calories are super standpoint. If your calories are super standpoint. If your calories are super low and you're not strength training low and you're not strength training low and you're not strength training material, material, material, >> you're going to lose a ton of muscle. >> you're going to lose a ton of muscle. >> you're going to lose a ton of muscle. >> That's just what happens. and you'll >> That's just what happens. and you'll >> That's just what happens. and you'll lose bone mass. Uh, which is what's lose bone mass. Uh, which is what's lose bone mass. Uh, which is what's going to happen. But I think what's going to happen. But I think what's going to happen. But I think what's happening, Adam, is people are blinded happening, Adam, is people are blinded happening, Adam, is people are blinded because they see the scale moving down because they see the scale moving down because they see the scale moving down >> and they're being encouraged by their >> and they're being encouraged by their >> and they're being encouraged by their health care practitioner that health care practitioner that health care practitioner that >> keep going, >> keep going, >> keep going, >> we're moving in the right direction. >> we're moving in the right direction. >> we're moving in the right direction. >> Yeah, that's I think there's two that's >> Yeah, that's I think there's two that's >> Yeah, that's I think there's two that's why I said I think there's really two why I said I think there's really two why I said I think there's really two camps here. Um, I think there's the camps here. Um, I think there's the camps here. Um, I think there's the there's the naive person who's probably there's the naive person who's probably there's the naive person who's probably just taking advice from their medical just taking advice from their medical just taking advice from their medical practitioner who's like, "Awesome, we're practitioner who's like, "Awesome, we're practitioner who's like, "Awesome, we're down another 10. Keep it going." or the down another 10. Keep it going." or the down another 10. Keep it going." or the plateau hits, hey, ramp up the dose. You plateau hits, hey, ramp up the dose. You plateau hits, hey, ramp up the dose. You know, I think that's uh definitely one know, I think that's uh definitely one know, I think that's uh definitely one GLP1 user, but and and of course, I'm in GLP1 user, but and and of course, I'm in GLP1 user, but and and of course, I'm in a different circle of people that I a different circle of people that I a different circle of people that I think are a little more aware and privy think are a little more aware and privy think are a little more aware and privy to peptides, but I've been sharing to peptides, but I've been sharing to peptides, but I've been sharing recently with how surprised I am with recently with how surprised I am with recently with how surprised I am with the amount of like average people around the amount of like average people around the amount of like average people around me that are talking about GLP-1s. me that are talking about GLP-1s. me that are talking about GLP-1s. >> And right now, the big conversation is >> And right now, the big conversation is >> And right now, the big conversation is Rea. I mean, everybody is just hyped on Rea. I mean, everybody is just hyped on Rea. I mean, everybody is just hyped on it because it because it because >> you can build muscle and you and you >> you can build muscle and you and you >> you can build muscle and you and you don't lose muscle. Like so they they don't lose muscle. Like so they they don't lose muscle. Like so they they have this idea that this new GLP1 is have this idea that this new GLP1 is have this idea that this new GLP1 is going to save them from all this muscle going to save them from all this muscle going to save them from all this muscle loss and it's just like loss and it's just like loss and it's just like >> I don't think people and and I >> I don't think people and and I >> I don't think people and and I understand what the original studies understand what the original studies understand what the original studies came out and showed it was wow this is came out and showed it was wow this is came out and showed it was wow this is so crazy that it's it's helping that and so crazy that it's it's helping that and so crazy that it's it's helping that and it's but if you're still in a massive it's but if you're still in a massive it's but if you're still in a massive calorie deficit like you said it doesn't calorie deficit like you said it doesn't calorie deficit like you said it doesn't matter. matter. matter. >> No Doug if you could pull up phase three >> No Doug if you could pull up phase three >> No Doug if you could pull up phase three trial read a true tide muscle loss let's trial read a true tide muscle loss let's trial read a true tide muscle loss let's get the exact number. So uh get the exact number. So uh get the exact number. So uh >> when did this come? So because the last >> when did this come? So because the last >> when did this come? So because the last time I had heard huh time I had heard huh time I had heard huh >> this was a phase three trial in humans. >> this was a phase three trial in humans. >> this was a phase three trial in humans. >> So through the mechanisms and through >> So through the mechanisms and through >> So through the mechanisms and through some other ways they were like this some other ways they were like this some other ways they were like this might be more this should be more muscle might be more this should be more muscle might be more this should be more muscle preserving. preserving. preserving. >> Uh but it's not that easy. It's not that >> Uh but it's not that easy. It's not that >> Uh but it's not that easy. It's not that easy to easy to easy to >> No. This is why Okay. So remember when >> No. This is why Okay. So remember when >> No. This is why Okay. So remember when remember when the first the first stuff remember when the first the first stuff remember when the first the first stuff came out and it obviously it was in in came out and it obviously it was in in came out and it obviously it was in in probably what chimps when they did it probably what chimps when they did it probably what chimps when they did it originally? originally? originally? >> Uh animals and Yes. and and also the >> Uh animals and Yes. and and also the >> Uh animals and Yes. and and also the mechanisms because they're looking at mechanisms because they're looking at mechanisms because they're looking at the receptors that it's attaching to and the receptors that it's attaching to and the receptors that it's attaching to and it should do this and it should do that it should do this and it should do that it should do this and it should do that kind of thing. kind of thing. kind of thing. >> So, I remember when we first saw that we >> So, I remember when we first saw that we >> So, I remember when we first saw that we were like, whoa, this is crazy that it's were like, whoa, this is crazy that it's were like, whoa, this is crazy that it's it's showing this in the studies, right? it's showing this in the studies, right? it's showing this in the studies, right? >> And so, now you're saying that they've >> And so, now you're saying that they've >> And so, now you're saying that they've done more stuff on the on it with humans done more stuff on the on it with humans done more stuff on the on it with humans and it's not as promising as what the and it's not as promising as what the and it's not as promising as what the original thought was. original thought was. original thought was. >> So, what they're looking at is the ratio >> So, what they're looking at is the ratio >> So, what they're looking at is the ratio of fat to muscle, but you're also of fat to muscle, but you're also of fat to muscle, but you're also looking at more total weight loss and so looking at more total weight loss and so looking at more total weight loss and so more muscle loss. So the ratio is great, more muscle loss. So the ratio is great, more muscle loss. So the ratio is great, >> but it doesn't matter if you're losing >> but it doesn't matter if you're losing >> but it doesn't matter if you're losing more muscle. more muscle. more muscle. >> It's a it's so by the way >> It's a it's so by the way >> It's a it's so by the way >> when we say GLP1 uh what we're really >> when we say GLP1 uh what we're really >> when we say GLP1 uh what we're really referring to are the the the first phase referring to are the the the first phase referring to are the the the first phase of GLPS uh some glutide of GLPS uh some glutide of GLPS uh some glutide >> then you had GLP2s which acted on two >> then you had GLP2s which acted on two >> then you had GLP2s which acted on two receptors and redutide is a GLP3 receptors and redutide is a GLP3 receptors and redutide is a GLP3 >> which acts on three receptors. Um, but >> which acts on three receptors. Um, but >> which acts on three receptors. Um, but again, I think that this muscle loss again, I think that this muscle loss again, I think that this muscle loss crisis was already there, but it's crisis was already there, but it's crisis was already there, but it's getting worse because now you're getting getting worse because now you're getting getting worse because now you're getting people who are using these very powerful people who are using these very powerful people who are using these very powerful peptides and not the first peptides and not the first peptides and not the first consideration, the number one consideration, the number one consideration, the number one consideration consideration consideration uh when it comes to weight loss or fat uh when it comes to weight loss or fat uh when it comes to weight loss or fat loss uh is muscle preservation. That's loss uh is muscle preservation. That's loss uh is muscle preservation. That's the most important thing to consider the most important thing to consider the most important thing to consider when you're losing body fat. when you're losing body fat. when you're losing body fat. >> Yes. Because muscle loss sabotages fat >> Yes. Because muscle loss sabotages fat >> Yes. Because muscle loss sabotages fat loss. Muscle loss sabotages health. It loss. Muscle loss sabotages health. It loss. Muscle loss sabotages health. It sabotages hormone health. It sabotages sabotages hormone health. It sabotages sabotages hormone health. It sabotages quality of life. And it will happen quality of life. And it will happen quality of life. And it will happen predictably predictably predictably when you're in a calorie deficit unless when you're in a calorie deficit unless when you're in a calorie deficit unless you take all the precautions. So to keep you take all the precautions. So to keep you take all the precautions. So to keep muscle. So if you're trying to lose muscle. So if you're trying to lose muscle. So if you're trying to lose weight, the number one thing you need to weight, the number one thing you need to weight, the number one thing you need to focus on perhaps number two, maybe focus on perhaps number two, maybe focus on perhaps number two, maybe number one is how do I do this number one is how do I do this number one is how do I do this sustainably, but number one in terms of sustainably, but number one in terms of sustainably, but number one in terms of physiologically and and the steps like physiologically and and the steps like physiologically and and the steps like how do I keep muscle while losing this how do I keep muscle while losing this how do I keep muscle while losing this body fat? Because if you lose muscle, body fat? Because if you lose muscle, body fat? Because if you lose muscle, your your metabolic adaptation moves your your metabolic adaptation moves your your metabolic adaptation moves faster downward, meaning you're going to faster downward, meaning you're going to faster downward, meaning you're going to make it so that it's harder for you to make it so that it's harder for you to make it so that it's harder for you to maintain the the weight loss. you're maintain the the weight loss. you're maintain the the weight loss. you're going to lose strength, lose mobility, going to lose strength, lose mobility, going to lose strength, lose mobility, become more frail, insulin sensitivity become more frail, insulin sensitivity become more frail, insulin sensitivity gets worse because you just have less gets worse because you just have less gets worse because you just have less muscle. Um, and you potentially and muscle. Um, and you potentially and muscle. Um, and you potentially and oftentimes do hit a plateau that will oftentimes do hit a plateau that will oftentimes do hit a plateau that will require you to drop your calories even require you to drop your calories even require you to drop your calories even lower. lower. lower. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And now you're you're you're living on >> And now you're you're you're living on >> And now you're you're you're living on very little calories and nutrients. Um, very little calories and nutrients. Um, very little calories and nutrients. Um, which makes stress harder to handle. You which makes stress harder to handle. You which makes stress harder to handle. You know, when your calories are really low, know, when your calories are really low, know, when your calories are really low, this is this is one of the ways that you this is this is one of the ways that you this is this is one of the ways that you get your body helps and handles itself get your body helps and handles itself get your body helps and handles itself with stress is it's got nutrients. you with stress is it's got nutrients. you with stress is it's got nutrients. you got really low calories, you handle poor got really low calories, you handle poor got really low calories, you handle poor sleep worse, you handle exercise worse, sleep worse, you handle exercise worse, sleep worse, you handle exercise worse, you handle all stress situations worse, you handle all stress situations worse, you handle all stress situations worse, libido drops, um quality of life drops. libido drops, um quality of life drops. libido drops, um quality of life drops. But again, I think a lot of people But again, I think a lot of people But again, I think a lot of people ignore this because they see the scale ignore this because they see the scale ignore this because they see the scale move moving down and and you're hearing move moving down and and you're hearing move moving down and and you're hearing reports of this, by the way. People are reports of this, by the way. People are reports of this, by the way. People are saying things and you see that, oh, it saying things and you see that, oh, it saying things and you see that, oh, it killed my libido. That's not what killed killed my libido. That's not what killed killed my libido. That's not what killed your libido. What killed your libido your libido. What killed your libido your libido. What killed your libido >> under calorie >> under calorie >> under calorie >> way too low. Yeah. back to the um the >> way too low. Yeah. back to the um the >> way too low. Yeah. back to the um the educated user like the the GLP-1 type educated user like the the GLP-1 type educated user like the the GLP-1 type users are they under the impression like users are they under the impression like users are they under the impression like this Reddit 2 tri like they're they're this Reddit 2 tri like they're they're this Reddit 2 tri like they're they're they don't need to address like the they don't need to address like the they don't need to address like the training aspect the protein like it's training aspect the protein like it's training aspect the protein like it's still going to just save their muscle still going to just save their muscle still going to just save their muscle just by taking the chemical. What I just by taking the chemical. What I just by taking the chemical. What I think has happened is that uh again I think has happened is that uh again I think has happened is that uh again I think there we have a very clear divide think there we have a very clear divide think there we have a very clear divide in the GLP1 user GLP1 2 or three users in the GLP1 user GLP1 2 or three users in the GLP1 user GLP1 2 or three users right is that you have people that are right is that you have people that are right is that you have people that are you know obese going straight to the you know obese going straight to the you know obese going straight to the doctor doctors giving them their doctor doctors giving them their doctor doctors giving them their prescription all their monitoring really prescription all their monitoring really prescription all their monitoring really is they're they're monitoring their is they're they're monitoring their is they're they're monitoring their blood markers and seeing things like blood markers and seeing things like blood markers and seeing things like cholesterol blood pressure go down cholesterol blood pressure go down cholesterol blood pressure go down they're monitoring their scale weight they're monitoring their scale weight they're monitoring their scale weight and so long as all those are going down and so long as all those are going down and so long as all those are going down it's a thumbs up keep going it's a thumbs up keep going it's a thumbs up keep going >> nobody's monitoring strength >> nobody's monitoring strength >> nobody's monitoring strength >> right we just ramp up And if if they hit >> right we just ramp up And if if they hit >> right we just ramp up And if if they hit a plateau, it's double the dose up and a plateau, it's double the dose up and a plateau, it's double the dose up and just keep and so there's definitely that just keep and so there's definitely that just keep and so there's definitely that group of people. And I'm not sure what group of people. And I'm not sure what group of people. And I'm not sure what that percentage is. That's why I asked that percentage is. That's why I asked that percentage is. That's why I asked you guys speculative, right? you guys speculative, right? you guys speculative, right? >> I I would have assumed that it was a >> I I would have assumed that it was a >> I I would have assumed that it was a larger percentage originally, larger percentage originally, larger percentage originally, >> but just from personal experience in the >> but just from personal experience in the >> but just from personal experience in the circles that I've been around and I've circles that I've been around and I've circles that I've been around and I've been sharing with you guys like how been sharing with you guys like how been sharing with you guys like how crazy it is that how many people just crazy it is that how many people just crazy it is that how many people just average people are talking about that average people are talking about that average people are talking about that are selling it on the side now. Uh I are selling it on the side now. Uh I are selling it on the side now. Uh I think they have heard fitness people think they have heard fitness people think they have heard fitness people like us talking about hey you got to be like us talking about hey you got to be like us talking about hey you got to be really careful in these GLP1s. People really careful in these GLP1s. People really careful in these GLP1s. People are losing tons of muscle and now are losing tons of muscle and now are losing tons of muscle and now there's this big talk about reetta. there's this big talk about reetta. there's this big talk about reetta. Reetta is the one that keeps the muscle. Reetta is the one that keeps the muscle. Reetta is the one that keeps the muscle. >> Yeah. Keeps muscle and you lose the fat. >> Yeah. Keeps muscle and you lose the fat. >> Yeah. Keeps muscle and you lose the fat. That's what's so like so there's this That's what's so like so there's this That's what's so like so there's this hype around just how amazing it is in hype around just how amazing it is in hype around just how amazing it is in comparison comparison comparison >> and I don't think they realize just how >> and I don't think they realize just how >> and I don't think they realize just how closely similar they really are. I mean closely similar they really are. I mean closely similar they really are. I mean that anybody who's experienced uh that anybody who's experienced uh that anybody who's experienced uh semiglutide to trace to reetta it's semiglutide to trace to reetta it's semiglutide to trace to reetta it's they're all very very similar what the they're all very very similar what the they're all very very similar what the the mechanism at which they they they the mechanism at which they they they the mechanism at which they they they work right they they crush the appetite work right they they crush the appetite work right they they crush the appetite and they make you eat less they quiet and they make you eat less they quiet and they make you eat less they quiet the noise and yes they've gotten better the noise and yes they've gotten better the noise and yes they've gotten better uh at like maybe preserving a little bit uh at like maybe preserving a little bit uh at like maybe preserving a little bit the percentage of muscle but you're the percentage of muscle but you're the percentage of muscle but you're still if you're going to eat a th00and still if you're going to eat a th00and still if you're going to eat a th00and 200,000 calorie deficits every single 200,000 calorie deficits every single 200,000 calorie deficits every single day and not strength train properly ly day and not strength train properly ly day and not strength train properly ly and not hit protein intake, you're going and not hit protein intake, you're going and not hit protein intake, you're going to lose. to lose. to lose. >> You're going to lose Yeah. >> You're going to lose Yeah. >> You're going to lose Yeah. >> a ton of muscle >> a ton of muscle >> a ton of muscle >> physiologically. Yeah. It's impossible. >> physiologically. Yeah. It's impossible. >> physiologically. Yeah. It's impossible. >> I'll go extreme. I'll I'll paint an >> I'll go extreme. I'll I'll paint an >> I'll go extreme. I'll I'll paint an extreme scenario that happens all the extreme scenario that happens all the extreme scenario that happens all the time. Do you know who else loses muscle time. Do you know who else loses muscle time. Do you know who else loses muscle in a severe calorie deficit? And we see in a severe calorie deficit? And we see in a severe calorie deficit? And we see this all the time. Pro bodybuilders. this all the time. Pro bodybuilders. this all the time. Pro bodybuilders. These are people, men and women, with These are people, men and women, with These are people, men and women, with first off, genetics that build muscle first off, genetics that build muscle first off, genetics that build muscle like you wouldn't believe. Okay? These like you wouldn't believe. Okay? These like you wouldn't believe. Okay? These are the equivalent of seven foot tall are the equivalent of seven foot tall are the equivalent of seven foot tall people. That's how rare their muscle people. That's how rare their muscle people. That's how rare their muscle building genetics are. On top of it, building genetics are. On top of it, building genetics are. On top of it, they take copious anabolic hormones. they take copious anabolic hormones. they take copious anabolic hormones. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Steroids and testosterone and growth >> Steroids and testosterone and growth >> Steroids and testosterone and growth hormone. Uh they'll take steroids that hormone. Uh they'll take steroids that hormone. Uh they'll take steroids that are designed for cattle uh that are are designed for cattle uh that are are designed for cattle uh that are banned for human use that are so banned for human use that are so banned for human use that are so powerful they could cause psychiatric powerful they could cause psychiatric powerful they could cause psychiatric conditions like trenolone. Very conditions like trenolone. Very conditions like trenolone. Very powerful. 500 times stronger on the powerful. 500 times stronger on the powerful. 500 times stronger on the anabolic and androgenic uh um markers anabolic and androgenic uh um markers anabolic and androgenic uh um markers than testosterone for example. They're than testosterone for example. They're than testosterone for example. They're on these crazy drugs. They've got crazy on these crazy drugs. They've got crazy on these crazy drugs. They've got crazy insane genetics. They hit protein, but insane genetics. They hit protein, but insane genetics. They hit protein, but they're in a calorie deficit they're in a calorie deficit they're in a calorie deficit pre-contest. And guess what happens to pre-contest. And guess what happens to pre-contest. And guess what happens to them? They lose muscle, too. them? They lose muscle, too. them? They lose muscle, too. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you're telling me Mrs. Johnson who's >> So, you're telling me Mrs. Johnson who's >> So, you're telling me Mrs. Johnson who's on red tide, who is just eating way on red tide, who is just eating way on red tide, who is just eating way less, who's not doing any of those less, who's not doing any of those less, who's not doing any of those things, things, things, >> oh, the red is going to keep my muscle. >> oh, the red is going to keep my muscle. >> oh, the red is going to keep my muscle. >> Not going to happen. The data shows it. >> Not going to happen. The data shows it. >> Not going to happen. The data shows it. So, and by and and by the way, this So, and by and and by the way, this So, and by and and by the way, this isn't just true for people who are on isn't just true for people who are on isn't just true for people who are on >> This is problematic, dude. >> This is problematic, dude. >> This is problematic, dude. >> This is not a pro. This is not just an >> This is not a pro. This is not just an >> This is not a pro. This is not just an issue for people on GLPs. By the way, I issue for people on GLPs. By the way, I issue for people on GLPs. By the way, I want to be clear. The GLPs are not want to be clear. The GLPs are not want to be clear. The GLPs are not causing the muscle. causing the muscle. causing the muscle. >> No, this was a pro. Okay, we've been >> No, this was a pro. Okay, we've been >> No, this was a pro. Okay, we've been saying since day one on this podcast saying since day one on this podcast saying since day one on this podcast that one of the number one issues I had that one of the number one issues I had that one of the number one issues I had with all of my clients was undereating with all of my clients was undereating with all of my clients was undereating protein. protein. protein. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And not proper strength training and >> And not proper strength training and >> And not proper strength training and overabusing cardio. That's like that's overabusing cardio. That's like that's overabusing cardio. That's like that's been that's been around forever. That's been that's been around forever. That's been that's been around forever. That's right. right. right. >> Way before these GLP1s got popular, that >> Way before these GLP1s got popular, that >> Way before these GLP1s got popular, that was already a problem. So, you now take was already a problem. So, you now take was already a problem. So, you now take that and you add this new drug that that and you add this new drug that that and you add this new drug that makes them eat even less. makes them eat even less. makes them eat even less. >> All this false confidence. Yes. >> All this false confidence. Yes. >> All this false confidence. Yes. >> Yep. 100%. So, so this is a problem >> Yep. 100%. So, so this is a problem >> Yep. 100%. So, so this is a problem anytime uh that somebody goes in a anytime uh that somebody goes in a anytime uh that somebody goes in a subcalorie diet to lose body fat. So, subcalorie diet to lose body fat. So, subcalorie diet to lose body fat. So, this is the number one thing you need to this is the number one thing you need to this is the number one thing you need to manage is muscle. And there's a few manage is muscle. And there's a few manage is muscle. And there's a few things, Adam just mentioned them, so things, Adam just mentioned them, so things, Adam just mentioned them, so we'll break them down a little bit. we'll break them down a little bit. we'll break them down a little bit. Number one is inadequate protein intake. Number one is inadequate protein intake. Number one is inadequate protein intake. So, when you look at the data on uh So, when you look at the data on uh So, when you look at the data on uh subcalorie subcalorie subcalorie diets or what are called calorie deficit diets or what are called calorie deficit diets or what are called calorie deficit diets, in other words, you're eating diets, in other words, you're eating diets, in other words, you're eating less calories than you're burning, less calories than you're burning, less calories than you're burning, right? because you're trying to lose right? because you're trying to lose right? because you're trying to lose body fat when protein is high. And when body fat when protein is high. And when body fat when protein is high. And when I say high, I don't mean what the RDA I say high, I don't mean what the RDA I say high, I don't mean what the RDA considers high. What I mean is what uh considers high. What I mean is what uh considers high. What I mean is what uh what fitness coaches and what the data what fitness coaches and what the data what fitness coaches and what the data shows as being high. The upper limit of shows as being high. The upper limit of shows as being high. The upper limit of where you're going to get benefit, which where you're going to get benefit, which where you're going to get benefit, which is closer to a gram of protein per pound is closer to a gram of protein per pound is closer to a gram of protein per pound of target body weight. So, it's way more of target body weight. So, it's way more of target body weight. So, it's way more than what you would read the RDA saying than what you would read the RDA saying than what you would read the RDA saying as being high. Okay? Now, I'm as being high. Okay? Now, I'm as being high. Okay? Now, I'm overshooting it a little bit, but in in overshooting it a little bit, but in in overshooting it a little bit, but in in coaching c circles, it's just even more coaching c circles, it's just even more coaching c circles, it's just even more beneficial. But the data will show it's beneficial. But the data will show it's beneficial. But the data will show it's closer to that. It's like 08 gram per closer to that. It's like 08 gram per closer to that. It's like 08 gram per pound of target body weight or something pound of target body weight or something pound of target body weight or something like that. So 1 g per pound of target like that. So 1 g per pound of target like that. So 1 g per pound of target body weight. What the data shows when body weight. What the data shows when body weight. What the data shows when you look in those at those areas is even you look in those at those areas is even you look in those at those areas is even without strength training, it has a without strength training, it has a without strength training, it has a muscle preserving effect. When you add muscle preserving effect. When you add muscle preserving effect. When you add strength training, it's even more strength training, it's even more strength training, it's even more powerful. So, inadequate protein intake powerful. So, inadequate protein intake powerful. So, inadequate protein intake as defined by not hitting these super as defined by not hitting these super as defined by not hitting these super high targets that we're talking about is high targets that we're talking about is high targets that we're talking about is a you're essentially shooting yourself a you're essentially shooting yourself a you're essentially shooting yourself in the foot and you're going to make in the foot and you're going to make in the foot and you're going to make muscle loss uh much more uh prevalent muscle loss uh much more uh prevalent muscle loss uh much more uh prevalent with your weight loss journey. The with your weight loss journey. The with your weight loss journey. The second thing is poor strength training second thing is poor strength training second thing is poor strength training or resistance training programming. So, or resistance training programming. So, or resistance training programming. So, I think a lot of people know by now if I think a lot of people know by now if I think a lot of people know by now if they want to keep muscle, especially if they want to keep muscle, especially if they want to keep muscle, especially if they want to build muscle, they need to they want to build muscle, they need to they want to build muscle, they need to do strength training. do strength training. do strength training. >> But I don't think a lot of people know >> But I don't think a lot of people know >> But I don't think a lot of people know what that looks like. No, especially in what that looks like. No, especially in what that looks like. No, especially in a calorie calorie defic because a calorie calorie defic because a calorie calorie defic because appropriate strength training is appropriate strength training is appropriate strength training is important here too. Not just oh like oh important here too. Not just oh like oh important here too. Not just oh like oh I do the right movements the right I do the right movements the right I do the right movements the right movements with overapplied intensity and movements with overapplied intensity and movements with overapplied intensity and volume um it can be just as detrimental. volume um it can be just as detrimental. volume um it can be just as detrimental. You're not going to die. You're not going to die. You're not going to die. >> And I think that's the part that's >> And I think that's the part that's >> And I think that's the part that's really screwing a lot of people is they really screwing a lot of people is they really screwing a lot of people is they they're like I'm still pushing in the they're like I'm still pushing in the they're like I'm still pushing in the gym doing my thing. It's just like yeah gym doing my thing. It's just like yeah gym doing my thing. It's just like yeah but you're doing way too much for how but you're doing way too much for how but you're doing way too much for how little you're feeding yourself. You're little you're feeding yourself. You're little you're feeding yourself. You're really exacerbating the problem. really exacerbating the problem. really exacerbating the problem. >> That's right. So, the first problem I >> That's right. So, the first problem I >> That's right. So, the first problem I see with poor resistance training see with poor resistance training see with poor resistance training programming is that people think if you programming is that people think if you programming is that people think if you use a dumbbell or a barbell or machines, use a dumbbell or a barbell or machines, use a dumbbell or a barbell or machines, it automatically qualifies as strength it automatically qualifies as strength it automatically qualifies as strength training. That's not strength training. training. That's not strength training. training. That's not strength training. Not necessarily. It's the rest periods Not necessarily. It's the rest periods Not necessarily. It's the rest periods that make it strength training. So, if I that make it strength training. So, if I that make it strength training. So, if I use dumbbells, barbells, and machines in use dumbbells, barbells, and machines in use dumbbells, barbells, and machines in a way that looks like cardio. If I'm a way that looks like cardio. If I'm a way that looks like cardio. If I'm doing circuits, if I'm doing exercise doing circuits, if I'm doing exercise doing circuits, if I'm doing exercise after exercise after exercise with no after exercise after exercise with no after exercise after exercise with no rest to try to sweat, to try to get out rest to try to sweat, to try to get out rest to try to sweat, to try to get out of breath, then I'm essentially uh I of breath, then I'm essentially uh I of breath, then I'm essentially uh I might as well be running on a treadmill. might as well be running on a treadmill. might as well be running on a treadmill. uh I'm not doing strength training. uh I'm not doing strength training. uh I'm not doing strength training. Strength training that builds muscle or Strength training that builds muscle or Strength training that builds muscle or that preserves muscle is known as that preserves muscle is known as that preserves muscle is known as traditional resistance training or traditional resistance training or traditional resistance training or strength training. I do a set maybe 8 to strength training. I do a set maybe 8 to strength training. I do a set maybe 8 to 10 reps relatively high intensity. Then 10 reps relatively high intensity. Then 10 reps relatively high intensity. Then I rest for two to four minutes and then I rest for two to four minutes and then I rest for two to four minutes and then I do another set. And then to what I do another set. And then to what I do another set. And then to what Adam's saying, uh it's really important Adam's saying, uh it's really important Adam's saying, uh it's really important to consider your ability to recover and to consider your ability to recover and to consider your ability to recover and adapt. And that consideration is even adapt. And that consideration is even adapt. And that consideration is even more important when your calories are more important when your calories are more important when your calories are low. Mhm. low. Mhm. low. Mhm. >> So if if I have a tendency to overdo it >> So if if I have a tendency to overdo it >> So if if I have a tendency to overdo it at 3,000 calories, at 3,000 calories, at 3,000 calories, >> my tendency to overdo it multiplies when >> my tendency to overdo it multiplies when >> my tendency to overdo it multiplies when I go down to 1500 calories because I I go down to 1500 calories because I I go down to 1500 calories because I have just less nutrients, less food, have just less nutrients, less food, have just less nutrients, less food, less calories, less calories, less calories, >> less recovery agents >> less recovery agents >> less recovery agents >> to recover. So strength training needs >> to recover. So strength training needs >> to recover. So strength training needs to be appropriate. And what it typically to be appropriate. And what it typically to be appropriate. And what it typically looks like with somebody who's in a looks like with somebody who's in a looks like with somebody who's in a subcalorie diet is less. Yeah. Than what subcalorie diet is less. Yeah. Than what subcalorie diet is less. Yeah. Than what it looks like when somebody is in a it looks like when somebody is in a it looks like when somebody is in a maintenance caloric diet or uh or a a maintenance caloric diet or uh or a a maintenance caloric diet or uh or a a diet where they're trying to b build. diet where they're trying to b build. diet where they're trying to b build. >> You brought up uh the bodybuilders and >> You brought up uh the bodybuilders and >> You brought up uh the bodybuilders and the copious amount of drugs they're the copious amount of drugs they're the copious amount of drugs they're taking and their genetics and their you taking and their genetics and their you taking and their genetics and their you know training. This was uh this was know training. This was uh this was know training. This was uh this was common with them. Uh I remember watching common with them. Uh I remember watching common with them. Uh I remember watching uh and and you would see them lose uh and and you would see them lose uh and and you would see them lose muscle muscle muscle >> is they would ramp up intensity as they >> is they would ramp up intensity as they >> is they would ramp up intensity as they get into these severe calorie deficits get into these severe calorie deficits get into these severe calorie deficits for 6 to 8 weeks going into showtime. for 6 to 8 weeks going into showtime. for 6 to 8 weeks going into showtime. >> Sometimes 12 to 16 weeks. >> Sometimes 12 to 16 weeks. >> Sometimes 12 to 16 weeks. >> Yeah. And so and and what what ends up >> Yeah. And so and and what what ends up >> Yeah. And so and and what what ends up happening and the average person doesn't happening and the average person doesn't happening and the average person doesn't know any better because they see know any better because they see know any better because they see somebody who just gets shredded and they somebody who just gets shredded and they somebody who just gets shredded and they get up on stage and they have abs. Oh my get up on stage and they have abs. Oh my get up on stage and they have abs. Oh my god, they look amazing. god, they look amazing. god, they look amazing. >> But they lost 10 pounds of muscle. Yeah, >> But they lost 10 pounds of muscle. Yeah, >> But they lost 10 pounds of muscle. Yeah, but I'm I'm behind the scenes with a lot but I'm I'm behind the scenes with a lot but I'm I'm behind the scenes with a lot of these cuz they're my peers and we're of these cuz they're my peers and we're of these cuz they're my peers and we're all checking body fat and doing DEXA all checking body fat and doing DEXA all checking body fat and doing DEXA scans and we're monitoring how much lean scans and we're monitoring how much lean scans and we're monitoring how much lean body mass we have going into this and body mass we have going into this and body mass we have going into this and out and they're showing up every time to out and they're showing up every time to out and they're showing up every time to the stage with the same amount of lean the stage with the same amount of lean the stage with the same amount of lean body mass or less than they did on the body mass or less than they did on the body mass or less than they did on the previous show. They just they go through previous show. They just they go through previous show. They just they go through this off season of bulking up 30 40 this off season of bulking up 30 40 this off season of bulking up 30 40 pounds and trying to build to go this pounds and trying to build to go this pounds and trying to build to go this crazy cut to show up this exactly the crazy cut to show up this exactly the crazy cut to show up this exactly the same as what they were at the last one. same as what they were at the last one. same as what they were at the last one. And why that is is because they go on And why that is is because they go on And why that is is because they go on these severe cuts and they also ramp up these severe cuts and they also ramp up these severe cuts and they also ramp up intensity and training. And you're intensity and training. And you're intensity and training. And you're talking about people that others would talking about people that others would talking about people that others would look at and go like, "Oh, they know what look at and go like, "Oh, they know what look at and go like, "Oh, they know what they're doing. They got good form, they're doing. They got good form, they're doing. They got good form, technique, they're training, they're technique, they're training, they're technique, they're training, they're strength training, they're doing all the strength training, they're doing all the strength training, they're doing all the right things." right things." right things." >> But that's just and they're on all those >> But that's just and they're on all those >> But that's just and they're on all those drugs and yet still happens to them. So drugs and yet still happens to them. So drugs and yet still happens to them. So again, using your point, again, using your point, again, using your point, >> it's an extreme analogy, but it just >> it's an extreme analogy, but it just >> it's an extreme analogy, but it just shows. shows. shows. >> Yeah, exactly. That's the point of >> Yeah, exactly. That's the point of >> Yeah, exactly. That's the point of bringing this point of bringing this up bringing this point of bringing this up bringing this point of bringing this up is not uh to to lose the audience and go is not uh to to lose the audience and go is not uh to to lose the audience and go like, "Well, I'm not a pro bodybuilder. like, "Well, I'm not a pro bodybuilder. like, "Well, I'm not a pro bodybuilder. I'm not taking drugs. Why am I? No, it's I'm not taking drugs. Why am I? No, it's I'm not taking drugs. Why am I? No, it's an extreme analogy of even these people an extreme analogy of even these people an extreme analogy of even these people with great genetics, taking all the with great genetics, taking all the with great genetics, taking all the drugs, know how to resistance train, drugs, know how to resistance train, drugs, know how to resistance train, lose muscle, lose muscle, lose muscle, >> still do this inappropriately by ramping >> still do this inappropriately by ramping >> still do this inappropriately by ramping up intensity while being in a calorie up intensity while being in a calorie up intensity while being in a calorie deficit, while doing cardio and and low deficit, while doing cardio and and low deficit, while doing cardio and and low cal. It's like cal. It's like cal. It's like >> is a recipe for losing muscle. That's >> is a recipe for losing muscle. That's >> is a recipe for losing muscle. That's right. And you bet your ass if you're right. And you bet your ass if you're right. And you bet your ass if you're just, you know, Jane or Joe on a GLP1 just, you know, Jane or Joe on a GLP1 just, you know, Jane or Joe on a GLP1 and you're not taking all those drugs and you're not taking all those drugs and you're not taking all those drugs and you're not a genetic freak and and you're not a genetic freak and and you're not a genetic freak and you're doing those things, you will. and you're doing those things, you will. and you're doing those things, you will. and you'll lose just as much as you lose you'll lose just as much as you lose you'll lose just as much as you lose fat, which puts you in a in a worse fat, which puts you in a in a worse fat, which puts you in a in a worse situation than when you were 40 pounds situation than when you were 40 pounds situation than when you were 40 pounds overweight, overweight, overweight, >> 100%. So, what strength training would >> 100%. So, what strength training would >> 100%. So, what strength training would typically look like in a subcalorie diet typically look like in a subcalorie diet typically look like in a subcalorie diet for the average person, uh, is not every for the average person, uh, is not every for the average person, uh, is not every day hitting the gym, hammering myself, day hitting the gym, hammering myself, day hitting the gym, hammering myself, it's traditional strength training, it's traditional strength training, it's traditional strength training, probably two full body workouts a week probably two full body workouts a week probably two full body workouts a week or one to two exercises every single or one to two exercises every single or one to two exercises every single day. this is probably what would be day. this is probably what would be day. this is probably what would be appropriate for this individual and to appropriate for this individual and to appropriate for this individual and to carefully manage intensity. And how do carefully manage intensity. And how do carefully manage intensity. And how do you know if this is going the right way? you know if this is going the right way? you know if this is going the right way? You're getting stronger. It's the best You're getting stronger. It's the best You're getting stronger. It's the best measure of moving in the right direction measure of moving in the right direction measure of moving in the right direction is I'm actually getting stronger is I'm actually getting stronger is I'm actually getting stronger >> at the very least maintaining. >> at the very least maintaining. >> at the very least maintaining. >> If you get weaker, you're going the >> If you get weaker, you're going the >> If you get weaker, you're going the opposite direction opposite direction opposite direction >> because you're you'll almost certainly >> because you're you'll almost certainly >> because you're you'll almost certainly get weaker. Most people get weaker. You get weaker. Most people get weaker. You get weaker. Most people get weaker. You start cutting you start cutting and start cutting you start cutting and start cutting you start cutting and reducing calories and losing lots of reducing calories and losing lots of reducing calories and losing lots of weight. Most people see a significant weight. Most people see a significant weight. Most people see a significant drop in strength. And so bare minimum drop in strength. And so bare minimum drop in strength. And so bare minimum you should be maintaining. And if you're you should be maintaining. And if you're you should be maintaining. And if you're doing a really good job, doing a really good job, doing a really good job, >> you're getting a little stronger. >> you're getting a little stronger. >> you're getting a little stronger. >> Yeah. You found a way to get stronger >> Yeah. You found a way to get stronger >> Yeah. You found a way to get stronger during this, which means you probably during this, which means you probably during this, which means you probably have a really good balance. have a really good balance. have a really good balance. >> Now, the last uh big issue is improper >> Now, the last uh big issue is improper >> Now, the last uh big issue is improper uh exercise focus, in particular, cardio uh exercise focus, in particular, cardio uh exercise focus, in particular, cardio focus. So there all different versions focus. So there all different versions focus. So there all different versions or forms of exercise have specific types or forms of exercise have specific types or forms of exercise have specific types of value. In the case of weight loss, of value. In the case of weight loss, of value. In the case of weight loss, the number one consideration is the number one consideration is the number one consideration is preserving muscle. The only form of preserving muscle. The only form of preserving muscle. The only form of exercise you should focus on or the one exercise you should focus on or the one exercise you should focus on or the one that does that is strength training. All that does that is strength training. All that does that is strength training. All the other ones don't do this. In fact, the other ones don't do this. In fact, the other ones don't do this. In fact, all the other ones may actually all the other ones may actually all the other ones may actually contribute to the muscle loss in contribute to the muscle loss in contribute to the muscle loss in particular cardiovascular focus. Now, particular cardiovascular focus. Now, particular cardiovascular focus. Now, the problem is is cardio has been the problem is is cardio has been the problem is is cardio has been labeled incorrectly as the fat loss form labeled incorrectly as the fat loss form labeled incorrectly as the fat loss form of exercise. By the way, we have studies of exercise. By the way, we have studies of exercise. By the way, we have studies that compare strength training to cardio that compare strength training to cardio that compare strength training to cardio in a lowc calorie diet, head-to-head. in a lowc calorie diet, head-to-head. in a lowc calorie diet, head-to-head. And guess which one wins at pure fat And guess which one wins at pure fat And guess which one wins at pure fat loss? Strength training. So strength loss? Strength training. So strength loss? Strength training. So strength training is properly should properly be training is properly should properly be training is properly should properly be labeled not just as the form of exercise labeled not just as the form of exercise labeled not just as the form of exercise to build muscle but also as the best to build muscle but also as the best to build muscle but also as the best form of exercise for pure fat loss. So form of exercise for pure fat loss. So form of exercise for pure fat loss. So your focus should be strength training. your focus should be strength training. your focus should be strength training. It should not be on other forms of It should not be on other forms of It should not be on other forms of exercise and definitely not on cardio. exercise and definitely not on cardio. exercise and definitely not on cardio. And if you're in a low calorie diet uh And if you're in a low calorie diet uh And if you're in a low calorie diet uh and you're on a GLP in particular or and you're on a GLP in particular or and you're on a GLP in particular or you're just eating really low calories you're just eating really low calories you're just eating really low calories and you have limited recovery, limited and you have limited recovery, limited and you have limited recovery, limited ability to handle counterproductive, ability to handle counterproductive, ability to handle counterproductive, >> don't throw a bunch of forms of exercise >> don't throw a bunch of forms of exercise >> don't throw a bunch of forms of exercise at yourself. focus on strength training, at yourself. focus on strength training, at yourself. focus on strength training, don't worry about the rest. don't worry about the rest. don't worry about the rest. >> Cardio outside volume >> Cardio outside volume >> Cardio outside volume >> cardio outside of the health benefits >> cardio outside of the health benefits >> cardio outside of the health benefits that it provides and utilizing it for that it provides and utilizing it for that it provides and utilizing it for body composition, the main value of it body composition, the main value of it body composition, the main value of it is to create a a deficit. And if you're is to create a a deficit. And if you're is to create a a deficit. And if you're already using a GLP-1 to create a already using a GLP-1 to create a already using a GLP-1 to create a massive deficit, it it's it's you don't massive deficit, it it's it's you don't massive deficit, it it's it's you don't want to do that. You don't want to want to do that. You don't want to want to do that. You don't want to create an even bigger deficit because create an even bigger deficit because create an even bigger deficit because the bigger the deficit does not mean the the bigger the deficit does not mean the the bigger the deficit does not mean the faster or the more fat you lose. faster or the more fat you lose. faster or the more fat you lose. >> So the more weight you lose and it's >> So the more weight you lose and it's >> So the more weight you lose and it's muscle. muscle. muscle. >> That's right. And there's there's a >> That's right. And there's there's a >> That's right. And there's there's a there's an amount of fat that your body there's an amount of fat that your body there's an amount of fat that your body is going to allow you to utilize and to is going to allow you to utilize and to is going to allow you to utilize and to lose at a certain rate. And genetically, lose at a certain rate. And genetically, lose at a certain rate. And genetically, it's different from every person, but it's different from every person, but it's different from every person, but creating a bigger deficit and ramping up creating a bigger deficit and ramping up creating a bigger deficit and ramping up cardio and expenditure is not going to cardio and expenditure is not going to cardio and expenditure is not going to accelerate the fat loss. What it'll end accelerate the fat loss. What it'll end accelerate the fat loss. What it'll end up doing is accelerating the muscle up doing is accelerating the muscle up doing is accelerating the muscle loss. And so, yes, cardio is a great loss. And so, yes, cardio is a great loss. And so, yes, cardio is a great tool for health and heart health, but in tool for health and heart health, but in tool for health and heart health, but in the game of body composition, the only the game of body composition, the only the game of body composition, the only thing that it serves is creating a thing that it serves is creating a thing that it serves is creating a deficit. And when you're on a GLP1, deficit. And when you're on a GLP1, deficit. And when you're on a GLP1, you're already creating that deficit you're already creating that deficit you're already creating that deficit through food. And it's not sending a through food. And it's not sending a through food. And it's not sending a signal to maintain. signal to maintain. signal to maintain. >> Absolutely. It's opposite. It's >> Absolutely. It's opposite. It's >> Absolutely. It's opposite. It's catabolic. catabolic. catabolic. >> That's right. I I predict over the last >> That's right. I I predict over the last >> That's right. I I predict over the last the next excuse me decade or two. So the the next excuse me decade or two. So the the next excuse me decade or two. So the next 10 to 20 years that the next 10 to 20 years that the next 10 to 20 years that the conversation is going to shift from the conversation is going to shift from the conversation is going to shift from the obesity epidemic to the muscle loss obesity epidemic to the muscle loss obesity epidemic to the muscle loss epidemic. And you're going to see this epidemic. And you're going to see this epidemic. And you're going to see this muscle in the future. So I'm just muscle in the future. So I'm just muscle in the future. So I'm just encouraging people right now, do this encouraging people right now, do this encouraging people right now, do this the right way. Uh because otherwise the right way. Uh because otherwise the right way. Uh because otherwise you're going to, you know, rob Peter to you're going to, you know, rob Peter to you're going to, you know, rob Peter to pay. I I do want to make it clear though pay. I I do want to make it clear though pay. I I do want to make it clear though and I'll do my best every time we go on and I'll do my best every time we go on and I'll do my best every time we go on these rants with this is this isn't um these rants with this is this isn't um these rants with this is this isn't um this isn't us like railing on GLP ones. this isn't us like railing on GLP ones. this isn't us like railing on GLP ones. >> Yeah, we're not shaming or not >> Yeah, we're not shaming or not >> Yeah, we're not shaming or not >> changing because there with a coach >> changing because there with a coach >> changing because there with a coach >> they're amazing. >> they're amazing. >> they're amazing. >> I mean it's it's unbelievable >> I mean it's it's unbelievable >> I mean it's it's unbelievable >> if you do if you do it right with a good >> if you do if you do it right with a good >> if you do if you do it right with a good coach who understands this and coaches coach who understands this and coaches coach who understands this and coaches you through this game changer. you through this game changer. you through this game changer. >> Yeah. If you do this without a coach, >> Yeah. If you do this without a coach, >> Yeah. If you do this without a coach, you're going to run into the problems we you're going to run into the problems we you're going to run into the problems we just just just >> somebody who understands everything that >> somebody who understands everything that >> somebody who understands everything that we communicated we communicated we communicated that has struggled with obesity most of that has struggled with obesity most of that has struggled with obesity most of their life and utilizes a GLP1 with a their life and utilizes a GLP1 with a their life and utilizes a GLP1 with a coach that helps them through this coach that helps them through this coach that helps them through this process. process. process. This can be This can be This can be >> what's what's our link for our coaches, >> what's what's our link for our coaches, >> what's what's our link for our coaches, Doug? We have coaches here that have Doug? We have coaches here that have Doug? We have coaches here that have been specifically trained to work with been specifically trained to work with been specifically trained to work with people on GLPs. Um, and it's very people on GLPs. Um, and it's very people on GLPs. Um, and it's very limited, which is why we don't ever limited, which is why we don't ever limited, which is why we don't ever point people in this direction. Um, but point people in this direction. Um, but point people in this direction. Um, but what's the link that people what's the link that people what's the link that people >> uh, if you go to mindpump >> uh, if you go to mindpump >> uh, if you go to mindpump personalraining.com, you can request personalraining.com, you can request personalraining.com, you can request >> you can request to talk to to a coach or >> you can request to talk to to a coach or >> you can request to talk to to a coach or whatever. All right. Um, I got to tell whatever. All right. Um, I got to tell whatever. All right. Um, I got to tell you guys about something very you guys about something very you guys about something very interesting about testosterone in both interesting about testosterone in both interesting about testosterone in both men and women, but this is especially men and women, but this is especially men and women, but this is especially true for women that I I I guess I kind true for women that I I I guess I kind true for women that I I I guess I kind of knew was true, but I didn't really of knew was true, but I didn't really of knew was true, but I didn't really think about it uh, until I had a think about it uh, until I had a think about it uh, until I had a conversation with our friend uh, Dr. conversation with our friend uh, Dr. conversation with our friend uh, Dr. Fitz. Dr. Fitzgerald. Fitz. Dr. Fitzgerald. Fitz. Dr. Fitzgerald. >> Oh, yeah. Uhhuh. So, typically when a >> Oh, yeah. Uhhuh. So, typically when a >> Oh, yeah. Uhhuh. So, typically when a woman's testosterone goes up, either woman's testosterone goes up, either woman's testosterone goes up, either through hormone um therapy or just through hormone um therapy or just through hormone um therapy or just naturally, you'll typically see an naturally, you'll typically see an naturally, you'll typically see an increase in libido, increase in libido, increase in libido, >> right? That's testosterone helps with >> right? That's testosterone helps with >> right? That's testosterone helps with libido. It also helps with muscle and libido. It also helps with muscle and libido. It also helps with muscle and all that stuff. all that stuff. all that stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But, and I knew this, I just didn't >> But, and I knew this, I just didn't >> But, and I knew this, I just didn't really think about it. It's a U-shaped really think about it. It's a U-shaped really think about it. It's a U-shaped curve. If testosterone in women gets too curve. If testosterone in women gets too curve. If testosterone in women gets too high, it kills her libido. Hm. But it, high, it kills her libido. Hm. But it, high, it kills her libido. Hm. But it, by the way, this will happen with men, by the way, this will happen with men, by the way, this will happen with men, too, because it throws everything off too, because it throws everything off too, because it throws everything off and you just feel like crap. and you just feel like crap. and you just feel like crap. >> And so I looked up and so we were >> And so I looked up and so we were >> And so I looked up and so we were talking about this and I looked up the talking about this and I looked up the talking about this and I looked up the data on women who naturally have high data on women who naturally have high data on women who naturally have high testosterone, like women with uh PCOS testosterone, like women with uh PCOS testosterone, like women with uh PCOS where they just produce more where they just produce more where they just produce more testosterone than they should, testosterone than they should, testosterone than they should, >> they typically suffer from lower libido. >> they typically suffer from lower libido. >> they typically suffer from lower libido. So it's not like this straight shot. So So it's not like this straight shot. So So it's not like this straight shot. So when I was talking to her, she's like when I was talking to her, she's like when I was talking to her, she's like >> interesting. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> She's like, there's a sweet spot for >> She's like, there's a sweet spot for >> She's like, there's a sweet spot for testosterone for women for all of the testosterone for women for all of the testosterone for women for all of the benefits. If we overshoot it, benefits. If we overshoot it, benefits. If we overshoot it, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> they'll feel worse. They won't have >> they'll feel worse. They won't have >> they'll feel worse. They won't have higher libido. It often times they'll go higher libido. It often times they'll go higher libido. It often times they'll go down and they'll feel like garbage. down and they'll feel like garbage. down and they'll feel like garbage. >> Oh, I imagine that same that same thing >> Oh, I imagine that same that same thing >> Oh, I imagine that same that same thing applies for men, too. applies for men, too. applies for men, too. >> It does. It does. >> It does. It does. >> It does. It does. >> Yeah. I mean, so this is just >> Yeah. I mean, so this is just >> Yeah. I mean, so this is just >> you'll hear bodybuilders, they'll be on >> you'll hear bodybuilders, they'll be on >> you'll hear bodybuilders, they'll be on high doses of gear and they'll lose high doses of gear and they'll lose high doses of gear and they'll lose >> I mean this is this is anecdotal, but >> I mean this is this is anecdotal, but >> I mean this is this is anecdotal, but and I and I wonder if this is the and I and I wonder if this is the and I and I wonder if this is the mechanism in which this this is mechanism in which this this is mechanism in which this this is happening. happening. happening. >> So, uh many times in the last uh you >> So, uh many times in the last uh you >> So, uh many times in the last uh you know, [ __ ] it's been at least seven know, [ __ ] it's been at least seven know, [ __ ] it's been at least seven seven eight years, right? Right before seven eight years, right? Right before seven eight years, right? Right before Max, um I utilize HCG. Oh, right. Max, um I utilize HCG. Oh, right. Max, um I utilize HCG. Oh, right. >> On and off. Like uh like it was like >> On and off. Like uh like it was like >> On and off. Like uh like it was like when we were trying to get pregnant, I when we were trying to get pregnant, I when we were trying to get pregnant, I was very consistent with it. was very consistent with it. was very consistent with it. >> Sperm production. >> Sperm production. >> Sperm production. >> And so the point of me sharing this is >> And so the point of me sharing this is >> And so the point of me sharing this is that over the last seven, eight years, that over the last seven, eight years, that over the last seven, eight years, there's been many times where I've been there's been many times where I've been there's been many times where I've been consistent for months, then off for consistent for months, then off for consistent for months, then off for months, consistent for months. And so months, consistent for months. And so months, consistent for months. And so I've I've and there is a direct I've I've and there is a direct I've I've and there is a direct correlation to my sex drive and libido correlation to my sex drive and libido correlation to my sex drive and libido to when I'm taking hCG. to when I'm taking hCG. to when I'm taking hCG. >> It definitely kicks up the something >> It definitely kicks up the something >> It definitely kicks up the something naturally that I wasn't that has naturally that I wasn't that has naturally that I wasn't that has probably been suppressed a little bit. probably been suppressed a little bit. probably been suppressed a little bit. Even though you're on testosterone also, Even though you're on testosterone also, Even though you're on testosterone also, you already have. you already have. you already have. >> Yeah, exactly. So, it's like uh and I I >> Yeah, exactly. So, it's like uh and I I >> Yeah, exactly. So, it's like uh and I I I feel great on testosterone like I I feel great on testosterone like I I feel great on testosterone like I think I would consider it normal libido. think I would consider it normal libido. think I would consider it normal libido. I feel fine like we have our our sex all I feel fine like we have our our sex all I feel fine like we have our our sex all the things like that is the frequency the things like that is the frequency the things like that is the frequency seems some all of a sudden I'll take seems some all of a sudden I'll take seems some all of a sudden I'll take start taking HCG and I haven't been on start taking HCG and I haven't been on start taking HCG and I haven't been on one and I can feel a significant ramp up one and I can feel a significant ramp up one and I can feel a significant ramp up in libido and it's it's very clear in libido and it's it's very clear in libido and it's it's very clear because I've done it enough times that because I've done it enough times that because I've done it enough times that it's just like like clockwork the next it's just like like clockwork the next it's just like like clockwork the next day after I I take a a shot of of the day after I I take a a shot of of the day after I I take a a shot of of the hCG I feel feel it right away. It's not hCG I feel feel it right away. It's not hCG I feel feel it right away. It's not the uptick too of like estrogen because the uptick too of like estrogen because the uptick too of like estrogen because that will ramp up with higher that will ramp up with higher that will ramp up with higher testosterone in men. That could be part testosterone in men. That could be part testosterone in men. That could be part of the reason. Part of it. of the reason. Part of it. of the reason. Part of it. >> Yeah. Part of the reason is estrogen, >> Yeah. Part of the reason is estrogen, >> Yeah. Part of the reason is estrogen, but there's also uh but there's also uh but there's also uh >> well, what is it with the hCG that's >> well, what is it with the hCG that's >> well, what is it with the hCG that's doing? Because it's producing more. doing? Because it's producing more. doing? Because it's producing more. >> There's a downstream effect. It's not >> There's a downstream effect. It's not >> There's a downstream effect. It's not just boosting testosterone. There other just boosting testosterone. There other just boosting testosterone. There other hormones along with it that start to hormones along with it that start to hormones along with it that start to boost. So, it probably a more of a boost. So, it probably a more of a boost. So, it probably a more of a hormone balancing thing. hormone balancing thing. hormone balancing thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's the thing with hormones. More >> And that's the thing with hormones. More >> And that's the thing with hormones. More isn't better. isn't better. isn't better. >> Well, kicks up your your sperm count, >> Well, kicks up your your sperm count, >> Well, kicks up your your sperm count, doesn't it? doesn't it? doesn't it? >> It does, but so it's simulating hCG acts >> It does, but so it's simulating hCG acts >> It does, but so it's simulating hCG acts like luteinizing hormone. Uh, and then like luteinizing hormone. Uh, and then like luteinizing hormone. Uh, and then that boosts testosterone. But I think that boosts testosterone. But I think that boosts testosterone. But I think there's other down there's other there's other down there's other there's other down there's other hormones that it could also increase hormones that it could also increase hormones that it could also increase things like that. things like that. things like that. >> Well, it just seems logical that if my >> Well, it just seems logical that if my >> Well, it just seems logical that if my body all sudden naturally starts body all sudden naturally starts body all sudden naturally starts producing more sperm that it seems that producing more sperm that it seems that producing more sperm that it seems that >> makes sense, right? >> makes sense, right? >> makes sense, right? >> Makes sense. But there's some there's >> Makes sense. But there's some there's >> Makes sense. But there's some there's some mechanisms that are happening. some mechanisms that are happening. some mechanisms that are happening. >> Right. Right. Like I don't know the I >> Right. Right. Like I don't know the I >> Right. Right. Like I don't know the I don't know how to to to explain that don't know how to to to explain that don't know how to to to explain that more scientifically, but it just seems more scientifically, but it just seems more scientifically, but it just seems logical to me that if all a sudden my logical to me that if all a sudden my logical to me that if all a sudden my body says, "Hey, let's start producing body says, "Hey, let's start producing body says, "Hey, let's start producing more sperm." That my body would also say more sperm." That my body would also say more sperm." That my body would also say like, "Hey, we should have more sex or like, "Hey, we should have more sex or like, "Hey, we should have more sex or try and reproduce." Right? It just seems try and reproduce." Right? It just seems try and reproduce." Right? It just seems >> it's interesting to me too cuz I I know >> it's interesting to me too cuz I I know >> it's interesting to me too cuz I I know people right I know being in the space people right I know being in the space people right I know being in the space for as long as I have. for as long as I have. for as long as I have. >> We all know guys uh that have been on >> We all know guys uh that have been on >> We all know guys uh that have been on lots of anabolics high high hormones um lots of anabolics high high hormones um lots of anabolics high high hormones um you know anabolic steroids plus high you know anabolic steroids plus high you know anabolic steroids plus high doses of testosterone e either doses of testosterone e either doses of testosterone e either bodybuilders or gym rats or whatever. bodybuilders or gym rats or whatever. bodybuilders or gym rats or whatever. And one of the more common things you'll And one of the more common things you'll And one of the more common things you'll hear from them you'll also hear super hear from them you'll also hear super hear from them you'll also hear super high libido but then you'll also hear I high libido but then you'll also hear I high libido but then you'll also hear I lose I have no libido like it crushed my lose I have no libido like it crushed my lose I have no libido like it crushed my libido. Yeah. and you'll test their libido. Yeah. and you'll test their libido. Yeah. and you'll test their blood and be like, "Dude, you got the blood and be like, "Dude, you got the blood and be like, "Dude, you got the testosterone of like five horses." testosterone of like five horses." testosterone of like five horses." >> And yet your your So, it's like this >> And yet your your So, it's like this >> And yet your your So, it's like this U-shaped effect when it comes to uh I U-shaped effect when it comes to uh I U-shaped effect when it comes to uh I think all hormones. So, it's like more think all hormones. So, it's like more think all hormones. So, it's like more is not better. There is a sweet spot. is not better. There is a sweet spot. is not better. There is a sweet spot. >> I mean, it seems to me Justin's point, >> I mean, it seems to me Justin's point, >> I mean, it seems to me Justin's point, because I agree, the the rise of because I agree, the the rise of because I agree, the the rise of testosterone naturally brings up. So, testosterone naturally brings up. So, testosterone naturally brings up. So, estrogen coming up, sperm count going estrogen coming up, sperm count going estrogen coming up, sperm count going down would make me think that that would down would make me think that that would down would make me think that that would directly affect libido. And then the the directly affect libido. And then the the directly affect libido. And then the the other opposite is true. If you kept other opposite is true. If you kept other opposite is true. If you kept estrogen at bay and you increased sperm estrogen at bay and you increased sperm estrogen at bay and you increased sperm count, I would think libido would just count, I would think libido would just count, I would think libido would just drive up. drive up. drive up. >> I think so as well. But it is >> I think so as well. But it is >> I think so as well. But it is interesting like I said like you look at interesting like I said like you look at interesting like I said like you look at like with women I I I went deep into like with women I I I went deep into like with women I I I went deep into this over the weekend because I was like this over the weekend because I was like this over the weekend because I was like oh my gosh that's cuz I'm like oh more oh my gosh that's cuz I'm like oh more oh my gosh that's cuz I'm like oh more testosterone is going to make I think I testosterone is going to make I think I testosterone is going to make I think I assume that. assume that. assume that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I looked up this data. I'm like oh >> But I looked up this data. I'm like oh >> But I looked up this data. I'm like oh my god it's common among because women my god it's common among because women my god it's common among because women who have PCOS often times will produce who have PCOS often times will produce who have PCOS often times will produce tons of testosterone. They start to get tons of testosterone. They start to get tons of testosterone. They start to get like all these masculinizing effects. like all these masculinizing effects. like all these masculinizing effects. >> Yeah. And one of the their complaints is >> Yeah. And one of the their complaints is >> Yeah. And one of the their complaints is uh low libido even though the uh low libido even though the uh low libido even though the testosterone is like triple testosterone is like triple testosterone is like triple >> Yeah. what it should be. I know. >> Yeah. what it should be. I know. >> Yeah. what it should be. I know. Interesting, right? Interesting, right? Interesting, right? >> Yeah. That is that is interesting. >> Yeah. That is that is interesting. >> Yeah. That is that is interesting. >> Anyway, I'm uh um just started kind of >> Anyway, I'm uh um just started kind of >> Anyway, I'm uh um just started kind of preparing for the the talk I'll be doing preparing for the the talk I'll be doing preparing for the the talk I'll be doing at the world uh peptide congress. at the world uh peptide congress. at the world uh peptide congress. >> Yeah, it's coming that direction you're >> Yeah, it's coming that direction you're >> Yeah, it's coming that direction you're going to go. going to go. going to go. >> Yeah, just a couple weeks out. >> Yeah, just a couple weeks out. >> Yeah, just a couple weeks out. >> Yeah, we're we're we're right around the >> Yeah, we're we're we're right around the >> Yeah, we're we're we're right around the corner from that. corner from that. corner from that. >> I was talking to my friend about it >> I was talking to my friend about it >> I was talking to my friend about it because I invited my friend to come. So because I invited my friend to come. So because I invited my friend to come. So what for people aren't familiar the what for people aren't familiar the what for people aren't familiar the world world peptide congress this is world world peptide congress this is world world peptide congress this is like the this is like the the the best like the this is like the the the best like the this is like the the the best gathering of uh researchers and health gathering of uh researchers and health gathering of uh researchers and health practitioners uh and a lot of the talks practitioners uh and a lot of the talks practitioners uh and a lot of the talks and conversations and education is going and conversations and education is going and conversations and education is going to be centered around health but then to be centered around health but then to be centered around health but then you know um you know if we go down a you know um you know if we go down a you know um you know if we go down a little more granular peptide science so little more granular peptide science so little more granular peptide science so like you want to learn like you want to learn like you want to learn uh like what's cutting edge with uh like what's cutting edge with uh like what's cutting edge with peptides how to use them how to peptides how to use them how to peptides how to use them how to administer them if you're a practitioner administer them if you're a practitioner administer them if you're a practitioner like this is the place to be. Uh Dr. like this is the place to be. Uh Dr. like this is the place to be. Uh Dr. seeds puts it together. He's like the seeds puts it together. He's like the seeds puts it together. He's like the world's premier authority on peptides. I world's premier authority on peptides. I world's premier authority on peptides. I think think think >> I would think this this has got to be >> I would think this this has got to be >> I would think this this has got to be the the largest in the world. the the largest in the world. the the largest in the world. >> It's the largest and it's the it's like >> It's the largest and it's the it's like >> It's the largest and it's the it's like this is where you want to go. This is this is where you want to go. This is this is where you want to go. This is like the medical like the medical like the medical >> you got the research and literature and >> you got the research and literature and >> you got the research and literature and and data. This isn't like and data. This isn't like and data. This isn't like >> this isn't like influencers. >> this isn't like influencers. >> this isn't like influencers. >> No, dude. This >> No, dude. This >> No, dude. This I feel like fish out of water when we're I feel like fish out of water when we're I feel like fish out of water when we're there. I feel we are the bros. there. I feel we are the bros. there. I feel we are the bros. >> We're the bros. We're representing the >> We're the bros. We're representing the >> We're the bros. We're representing the bros. bros. bros. >> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. >> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. >> Yeah. Yeah. 100%. >> Like you guys are the smartest bros. >> Like you guys are the smartest bros. >> Like you guys are the smartest bros. It's mostly all doctors and scientists It's mostly all doctors and scientists It's mostly all doctors and scientists that are there. That's pretty much going that are there. That's pretty much going that are there. That's pretty much going to get you lab coat. to get you lab coat. to get you lab coat. >> Well, I was talking to my my friend >> Well, I was talking to my my friend >> Well, I was talking to my my friend about this cuz I invited my friend to about this cuz I invited my friend to about this cuz I invited my friend to come cuz his wife is a um she's a doctor come cuz his wife is a um she's a doctor come cuz his wife is a um she's a doctor and she started a private practice and and she started a private practice and and she started a private practice and she's going to start using peptides and she's going to start using peptides and she's going to start using peptides and stuff. I'm like, "Oh, you should totally stuff. I'm like, "Oh, you should totally stuff. I'm like, "Oh, you should totally come and make it." But he was asking me, come and make it." But he was asking me, come and make it." But he was asking me, so my his her husband, my friend, uh is so my his her husband, my friend, uh is so my his her husband, my friend, uh is a pastor and he's just a great public a pastor and he's just a great public a pastor and he's just a great public speaker. If you're a p I think I think speaker. If you're a p I think I think speaker. If you're a p I think I think pastors are the best public speakers. pastors are the best public speakers. pastors are the best public speakers. >> Yeah. They the most practice. >> Yeah. They the most practice. >> Yeah. They the most practice. >> They just practice all the time. you're >> They just practice all the time. you're >> They just practice all the time. you're talking to a large, you know, group of talking to a large, you know, group of talking to a large, you know, group of people, you know, people, you know, people, you know, >> every week, multiple times, >> every week, multiple times, >> every week, multiple times, >> three times on Sunday, another time on >> three times on Sunday, another time on >> three times on Sunday, another time on Wednesday or whatever, like every week, Wednesday or whatever, like every week, Wednesday or whatever, like every week, you know, it was just super practiced. you know, it was just super practiced. you know, it was just super practiced. >> So, I was talking to him and asking him >> So, I was talking to him and asking him >> So, I was talking to him and asking him his advice and stuff like that. And he's his advice and stuff like that. And he's his advice and stuff like that. And he's like, "Oh, you should be totally like, "Oh, you should be totally like, "Oh, you should be totally comfortable, right? You do this." And comfortable, right? You do this." And comfortable, right? You do this." And I'm like, "So different." I'm like, "So different." I'm like, "So different." >> Yeah, it is different. >> Yeah, it is different. >> Yeah, it is different. >> Talking on a camera, I have no, you guys >> Talking on a camera, I have no, you guys >> Talking on a camera, I have no, you guys know I I'm comfortable. I was know I I'm comfortable. I was know I I'm comfortable. I was comfortable early on. No big deal. Put comfortable early on. No big deal. Put comfortable early on. No big deal. Put me in front of a a group, a large group me in front of a a group, a large group me in front of a a group, a large group of people. I get nervous, dude. Is that of people. I get nervous, dude. Is that of people. I get nervous, dude. Is that the evolution of Sal speeches? Is going the evolution of Sal speeches? Is going the evolution of Sal speeches? Is going to be like very like a reverend when he to be like very like a reverend when he to be like very like a reverend when he gets up there. No. And so let ME TELL gets up there. No. And so let ME TELL gets up there. No. And so let ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOU ABOUT YOU ABOUT >> That's not my style. >> That's not my style. >> That's not my style. >> Listen up here all you fat people. Fire >> Listen up here all you fat people. Fire >> Listen up here all you fat people. Fire and brimstone. and brimstone. and brimstone. >> I'm here to save you. Save you from your >> I'm here to save you. Save you from your >> I'm here to save you. Save you from your transgressions. transgressions. transgressions. >> No, dude. >> No, dude. >> No, dude. >> No, but I love it. That would be >> No, but I love it. That would be >> No, but I love it. That would be hilarious. hilarious. hilarious. >> But I do. Dude, I get nervous. It's so >> But I do. Dude, I get nervous. It's so >> But I do. Dude, I get nervous. It's so funny. I like funny. I like funny. I like >> throw some passion in there. >> throw some passion in there. >> throw some passion in there. >> You don't You definitely don't come off >> You don't You definitely don't come off >> You don't You definitely don't come off like you are. I feel like I can tell like you are. I feel like I can tell like you are. I feel like I can tell like you ever you ever watch when some like you ever you ever watch when some like you ever you ever watch when some people do speeches or shows or stand up people do speeches or shows or stand up people do speeches or shows or stand up or and you get nervous for them because or and you get nervous for them because or and you get nervous for them because you can feel their nervous energy. You you can feel their nervous energy. You you can feel their nervous energy. You don't put any of that on. don't put any of that on. don't put any of that on. >> Well, I appreciate that. I can hide it >> Well, I appreciate that. I can hide it >> Well, I appreciate that. I can hide it pretty well, I think. pretty well, I think. pretty well, I think. >> But yeah, I got a little So, I think >> But yeah, I got a little So, I think >> But yeah, I got a little So, I think what I'm going to talk about I'm I'm not what I'm going to talk about I'm I'm not what I'm going to talk about I'm I'm not I'm going to stick to my wheelhouse. I'm I'm going to stick to my wheelhouse. I'm I'm going to stick to my wheelhouse. I'm not going to get up and speak to a bunch not going to get up and speak to a bunch not going to get up and speak to a bunch of doctors about peptides. of doctors about peptides. of doctors about peptides. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Let me teach you about stuff that >> Yeah. Let me teach you about stuff that >> Yeah. Let me teach you about stuff that you know more than I do. I'm gonna uh you know more than I do. I'm gonna uh you know more than I do. I'm gonna uh talk about you know my expertise which talk about you know my expertise which talk about you know my expertise which is uh how you can coach because all is uh how you can coach because all is uh how you can coach because all these practitioners use peptides but these practitioners use peptides but these practitioners use peptides but they t they use them in a longevity they t they use them in a longevity they t they use them in a longevity typically longevity clinics typically longevity clinics typically longevity clinics >> okay >> okay >> okay >> and so and they're they're very forward >> and so and they're they're very forward >> and so and they're they're very forward thinking so the these are good these are thinking so the these are good these are thinking so the these are good these are typically practitioners typically practitioners typically practitioners >> that are using peptides but also helping >> that are using peptides but also helping >> that are using peptides but also helping uh advise and coach on lifestyle uh advise and coach on lifestyle uh advise and coach on lifestyle >> so because they know that they know >> so because they know that they know >> so because they know that they know >> there there's that there and there's >> there there's that there and there's >> there there's that there and there's also those practitioners that I think also those practitioners that I think also those practitioners that I think they're aware of what's going on with they're aware of what's going on with they're aware of what's going on with the muscle loss and they want to learn the muscle loss and they want to learn the muscle loss and they want to learn >> that's right >> that's right >> that's right >> and they want They they they they are >> and they want They they they they are >> and they want They they they they are not experts in the fitness strength not experts in the fitness strength not experts in the fitness strength training side and so training side and so training side and so >> so what I think is going to be really >> so what I think is going to be really >> so what I think is going to be really >> that's why you become so popular at that >> that's why you become so popular at that >> that's why you become so popular at that thing and why he wants you to be one of thing and why he wants you to be one of thing and why he wants you to be one of the main speakers. the main speakers. the main speakers. >> Well, you know what it is, dude? Cuz I >> Well, you know what it is, dude? Cuz I >> Well, you know what it is, dude? Cuz I was thinking about this. This will be was thinking about this. This will be was thinking about this. This will be the third time and I've heard I've heard the third time and I've heard I've heard the third time and I've heard I've heard some of their talks. They've got some of their talks. They've got some of their talks. They've got brilliant speakers uh that that go brilliant speakers uh that that go brilliant speakers uh that that go there, there, there, >> but a lot of them come from uh a data >> but a lot of them come from uh a data >> but a lot of them come from uh a data medical literature standpoint, medical literature standpoint, medical literature standpoint, >> working in clinics >> working in clinics >> working in clinics >> and um and there's a coaching standpoint >> and um and there's a coaching standpoint >> and um and there's a coaching standpoint that I think is so important to that I think is so important to that I think is so important to communicate communicate communicate >> because there's what the literature says >> because there's what the literature says >> because there's what the literature says and then there's what how this works in and then there's what how this works in and then there's what how this works in real life. real life. real life. >> Well, there you'll hear them. I've heard >> Well, there you'll hear them. I've heard >> Well, there you'll hear them. I've heard them communicate it before and it's like them communicate it before and it's like them communicate it before and it's like and they'll say the same stuff like uh and they'll say the same stuff like uh and they'll say the same stuff like uh Yeah. And so make sure you just hit your Yeah. And so make sure you just hit your Yeah. And so make sure you just hit your protein and do it's just like it's like protein and do it's just like it's like protein and do it's just like it's like >> how do you coach do that? >> how do you coach do that? >> how do you coach do that? >> Yeah, exactly. It's just like but we >> Yeah, exactly. It's just like but we >> Yeah, exactly. It's just like but we know the average person struggles with know the average person struggles with know the average person struggles with that. You throw that person on and it's that. You throw that person on and it's that. You throw that person on and it's like you know how difficult that is for like you know how difficult that is for like you know how difficult that is for that person or they'll say things like that person or they'll say things like that person or they'll say things like and you need a strength train. It's just and you need a strength train. It's just and you need a strength train. It's just like well the proper amount is important like well the proper amount is important like well the proper amount is important and like so I think a lot of them and like so I think a lot of them and like so I think a lot of them understand from a scientific standpoint understand from a scientific standpoint understand from a scientific standpoint what they're supposed to do. I think the what they're supposed to do. I think the what they're supposed to do. I think the coaching coaching coaching >> application of it yeah really need help >> application of it yeah really need help >> application of it yeah really need help >> and people is what you you bring to >> and people is what you you bring to >> and people is what you you bring to that. that. that. >> Yeah. So that's what I'm going to focus >> Yeah. So that's what I'm going to focus >> Yeah. So that's what I'm going to focus on uh talking about while I'm up there on uh talking about while I'm up there on uh talking about while I'm up there and so that's good. Yeah, it'll be cool. and so that's good. Yeah, it'll be cool. and so that's good. Yeah, it'll be cool. And I'm speaking if any if anyone And I'm speaking if any if anyone And I'm speaking if any if anyone listening is going to attend. I'm at listening is going to attend. I'm at listening is going to attend. I'm at 10:30 on Saturday. 10:30 on Saturday. 10:30 on Saturday. >> Saturday. Okay. >> Saturday. Okay. >> Saturday. Okay. >> Is the day that I'll be >> Is the day that I'll be >> Is the day that I'll be >> What's the name of the place where it's >> What's the name of the place where it's >> What's the name of the place where it's actually at? actually at? actually at? >> It's at the Built Bill, Arizona. >> It's at the Built Bill, Arizona. >> It's at the Built Bill, Arizona. >> They rented like a like I know that he >> They rented like a like I know that he >> They rented like a like I know that he outgrew the Vegas outgrew the Vegas outgrew the Vegas >> halls which is was huge already. Like we >> halls which is was huge already. Like we >> halls which is was huge already. Like we were last well we were in the Bellagio, were last well we were in the Bellagio, were last well we were in the Bellagio, the Venetian last year. I don't remember the Venetian last year. I don't remember the Venetian last year. I don't remember which one we were. which one we were. which one we were. >> I think >> I think >> I think >> this is in Arizona. I think am I saying >> this is in Arizona. I think am I saying >> this is in Arizona. I think am I saying it right? Is it the Belmore? it right? Is it the Belmore? it right? Is it the Belmore? >> I believe it's the Builtmore. Yeah. Let >> I believe it's the Builtmore. Yeah. Let >> I believe it's the Builtmore. Yeah. Let me I'm just looking that up right now. me I'm just looking that up right now. me I'm just looking that up right now. >> Thanks. Thanks, Doug. So anyway, it'll >> Thanks. Thanks, Doug. So anyway, it'll >> Thanks. Thanks, Doug. So anyway, it'll be it'll be a good time. It's I'll I'll be it'll be a good time. It's I'll I'll be it'll be a good time. It's I'll I'll enjoy I I enjoy it afterwards, but when enjoy I I enjoy it afterwards, but when enjoy I I enjoy it afterwards, but when I like the day leading up to it, I mean, I like the day leading up to it, I mean, I like the day leading up to it, I mean, I get So, I get So, I get So, >> do you get uh after do you have an >> do you get uh after do you have an >> do you get uh after do you have an adrenaline rush? Do you get like a a adrenaline rush? Do you get like a a adrenaline rush? Do you get like a a high from it? high from it? high from it? >> Um I I feel uh if you guys like So now >> Um I I feel uh if you guys like So now >> Um I I feel uh if you guys like So now I'm going to put a little too much out I'm going to put a little too much out I'm going to put a little too much out there because now I'm put pressure on there because now I'm put pressure on there because now I'm put pressure on you guys. When you guys tell me I did a you guys. When you guys tell me I did a you guys. When you guys tell me I did a good job, I feel very good cuz I good job, I feel very good cuz I good job, I feel very good cuz I actually want it. It's I want to do a actually want it. It's I want to do a actually want it. It's I want to do a good job for you guys more than I do good job for you guys more than I do good job for you guys more than I do >> for the rest. So going to [ __ ] with you. >> for the rest. So going to [ __ ] with you. >> for the rest. So going to [ __ ] with you. >> So we have to be honest. I know. I say, >> So we have to be honest. I know. I say, >> So we have to be honest. I know. I say, >> bro, that was bad, dude. That was really >> bro, that was bad, dude. That was really >> bro, that was bad, dude. That was really >> What about if we heckle you in the >> What about if we heckle you in the >> What about if we heckle you in the audience? I thought that helped that one audience? I thought that helped that one audience? I thought that helped that one time. time. time. >> It did. It does. If you guys Yeah. >> It did. It does. If you guys Yeah. >> It did. It does. If you guys Yeah. Listen to me up. You know what's going Listen to me up. You know what's going Listen to me up. You know what's going to be cool about this time is Jessica's to be cool about this time is Jessica's to be cool about this time is Jessica's coming, so she'll be able to watch. So, coming, so she'll be able to watch. So, coming, so she'll be able to watch. So, she hasn't seen me do a talk. she hasn't seen me do a talk. she hasn't seen me do a talk. >> Does that make you more or less nervous? >> Does that make you more or less nervous? >> Does that make you more or less nervous? >> Oh. Uh, not more nervous. I feel uh more >> Oh. Uh, not more nervous. I feel uh more >> Oh. Uh, not more nervous. I feel uh more confident, I think, cuz I want my wife confident, I think, cuz I want my wife confident, I think, cuz I want my wife to see to see to see >> do my thing, you know. >> do my thing, you know. >> do my thing, you know. >> And she saw me once speak publicly, and >> And she saw me once speak publicly, and >> And she saw me once speak publicly, and it was when I did the thing here in it was when I did the thing here in it was when I did the thing here in front of all the trainers. front of all the trainers. front of all the trainers. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> And I'm She'd be so mad. I said this >> And I'm She'd be so mad. I said this >> And I'm She'd be so mad. I said this after I was done. She walked up to me, after I was done. She walked up to me, after I was done. She walked up to me, whispered in my ear, and she's like, whispered in my ear, and she's like, whispered in my ear, and she's like, "You just turned me on so much." "You just turned me on so much." "You just turned me on so much." >> So, >> So, >> So, >> oh, now we know why he's wearing that. >> oh, now we know why he's wearing that. >> oh, now we know why he's wearing that. >> There's a real motivation. >> There's a real motivation. >> There's a real motivation. >> Belt, your wife can see you, do >> Belt, your wife can see you, do >> Belt, your wife can see you, do something. something. something. >> I would agree with that. I think I think >> I would agree with that. I think I think >> I would agree with that. I think I think like I think of moments where I've had like I think of moments where I've had like I think of moments where I've had Katrina like it makes me Katrina like it makes me Katrina like it makes me >> Oh, let me let me guess when you're >> Oh, let me let me guess when you're >> Oh, let me let me guess when you're negotiating a big deal, negotiating a big deal, negotiating a big deal, >> bro. I feel like that about you when >> bro. I feel like that about you when >> bro. I feel like that about you when you're you're you're >> I look at massage. >> I look at massage. >> I look at massage. >> Yeah. I look at you and I'm like, I'm >> Yeah. I look at you and I'm like, I'm >> Yeah. I look at you and I'm like, I'm kind of turned on this guy's stupid. kind of turned on this guy's stupid. kind of turned on this guy's stupid. Damn, bro. He's I can't even believe we Damn, bro. He's I can't even believe we Damn, bro. He's I can't even believe we negotiated that. negotiated that. negotiated that. >> Yeah, I know. I think you would think >> Yeah, I know. I think you would think >> Yeah, I know. I think you would think that you would be maybe more nervous, that you would be maybe more nervous, that you would be maybe more nervous, but I I think you're right. I think but I I think you're right. I think but I I think you're right. I think there's something about having your there's something about having your there's something about having your partner there that makes you feel, you partner there that makes you feel, you partner there that makes you feel, you know, more confident. know, more confident. know, more confident. >> 100%. 100%. >> 100%. 100%. >> 100%. 100%. >> Yes. And it is the Builtmore. >> Yes. And it is the Builtmore. >> Yes. And it is the Builtmore. >> It is the Builtmore. Okay. That'll be >> It is the Builtmore. Okay. That'll be >> It is the Builtmore. Okay. That'll be That'll be fun. It's going to be a good That'll be fun. It's going to be a good That'll be fun. It's going to be a good time. time. time. >> Yeah. You know, we were talking about >> Yeah. You know, we were talking about >> Yeah. You know, we were talking about protein earlier. Um and I just because protein earlier. Um and I just because protein earlier. Um and I just because people will often say, "Well, how do I people will often say, "Well, how do I people will often say, "Well, how do I hit that?" Protein powder is typically hit that?" Protein powder is typically hit that?" Protein powder is typically what people will use. But, uh, the Paleo what people will use. But, uh, the Paleo what people will use. But, uh, the Paleo Valley meat sticks are a really, really Valley meat sticks are a really, really Valley meat sticks are a really, really easy and delicious way to help hit. easy and delicious way to help hit. easy and delicious way to help hit. >> I feel like we haven't talked about it. >> I feel like we haven't talked about it. >> I feel like we haven't talked about it. It's like the best snack that I I always It's like the best snack that I I always It's like the best snack that I I always go for. go for. go for. >> What are they Are they eight grams of >> What are they Are they eight grams of >> What are they Are they eight grams of protein? protein? protein? >> They're eight each. >> They're eight each. >> They're eight each. >> Eight each. So, I So, I I'll typically >> Eight each. So, I So, I I'll typically >> Eight each. So, I So, I I'll typically eat three a day. eat three a day. eat three a day. >> Yeah. Say two or three. I'll have them. >> Yeah. Say two or three. I'll have them. >> Yeah. Say two or three. I'll have them. >> So, that's like, you know, that's like >> So, that's like, you know, that's like >> So, that's like, you know, that's like 27 30 grams of protein. 27 30 grams of protein. 27 30 grams of protein. >> Just my lunch is delayed. It's like, oh >> Just my lunch is delayed. It's like, oh >> Just my lunch is delayed. It's like, oh my god. Saves me. my god. Saves me. my god. Saves me. >> They're better. They're better than I'm >> They're better. They're better than I'm >> They're better. They're better than I'm going to say by any beef jerk by far. going to say by any beef jerk by far. going to say by any beef jerk by far. >> It's because it's fermented. >> It's because it's fermented. >> It's because it's fermented. >> So, it's it's kind of broken down >> So, it's it's kind of broken down >> So, it's it's kind of broken down already and it's it's like not dry. It already and it's it's like not dry. It already and it's it's like not dry. It tastes it's delicious. tastes it's delicious. tastes it's delicious. >> Even when I'm in a in a pinch and I have >> Even when I'm in a in a pinch and I have >> Even when I'm in a in a pinch and I have to pull it cuz I think beef jerky for as to pull it cuz I think beef jerky for as to pull it cuz I think beef jerky for as long as all of us have been trainers has long as all of us have been trainers has long as all of us have been trainers has been a a gas station snack, right? been a a gas station snack, right? been a a gas station snack, right? >> And uh forever that's been like if I'm >> And uh forever that's been like if I'm >> And uh forever that's been like if I'm on a long drive and I don't have on a long drive and I don't have on a long drive and I don't have anything, I'll pull in a gas station anything, I'll pull in a gas station anything, I'll pull in a gas station real quick and grab some beef jerky or a real quick and grab some beef jerky or a real quick and grab some beef jerky or a protein bar or something. And man, the I protein bar or something. And man, the I protein bar or something. And man, the I it's Paleo Valley's beef jerky has it's Paleo Valley's beef jerky has it's Paleo Valley's beef jerky has ruined the other beef jerky for me ruined the other beef jerky for me ruined the other beef jerky for me >> by far. It's not even close. >> by far. It's not even close. >> by far. It's not even close. >> This is why we signed with them. It was >> This is why we signed with them. It was >> This is why we signed with them. It was their meat sticks. their meat sticks. their meat sticks. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> we we tasted and we're like, "Yeah." But >> we we tasted and we're like, "Yeah." But >> we we tasted and we're like, "Yeah." But it's an easy way to boost your protein. it's an easy way to boost your protein. it's an easy way to boost your protein. So, if you eat your meal and you want to So, if you eat your meal and you want to So, if you eat your meal and you want to add another eight gram or 16 g, eat a add another eight gram or 16 g, eat a add another eight gram or 16 g, eat a couple meat sticks. couple meat sticks. couple meat sticks. >> And they have long shelf life because >> And they have long shelf life because >> And they have long shelf life because they're in a package. So, you can store they're in a package. So, you can store they're in a package. So, you can store them. And they're good for kids, too. I them. And they're good for kids, too. I them. And they're good for kids, too. I love giving stuff like that to my kids. love giving stuff like that to my kids. love giving stuff like that to my kids. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I'm so excited to see >> Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I'm so excited to see >> Yeah. Yeah. I I'm I'm so excited to see uh as my son grows up because it's such uh as my son grows up because it's such uh as my son grows up because it's such a different house a different house a different house >> with food with food in particular. You >> with food with food in particular. You >> with food with food in particular. You know, it's funny. I don't know if I've know, it's funny. I don't know if I've know, it's funny. I don't know if I've shared this with you guys and I just he shared this with you guys and I just he shared this with you guys and I just he got the Nora virus, right? So, boy, that got the Nora virus, right? So, boy, that got the Nora virus, right? So, boy, that like ran through our house really. like ran through our house really. like ran through our house really. >> I'm so So, by the way, you got nothing. >> I'm so So, by the way, you got nothing. >> I'm so So, by the way, you got nothing. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> So contagious. You came out with >> So contagious. You came out with >> So contagious. You came out with nothing. nothing. nothing. >> I >> I >> I >> I was lowkey like he's going to get it. >> I was lowkey like he's going to get it. >> I was lowkey like he's going to get it. >> Like he's going to get nothing. you I >> Like he's going to get nothing. you I >> Like he's going to get nothing. you I said like I Katrina and I were getting said like I Katrina and I were getting said like I Katrina and I were getting into it while we were up in Reno because into it while we were up in Reno because into it while we were up in Reno because I'm like we're this is going to run I'm like we're this is going to run I'm like we're this is going to run through all of us through all of us through all of us >> and I'm not and like I'm not going to be >> and I'm not and like I'm not going to be >> and I'm not and like I'm not going to be able to drive us home like like we have able to drive us home like like we have able to drive us home like like we have to go now. It was like a a fight because to go now. It was like a a fight because to go now. It was like a a fight because she's like I'm not driving with my son she's like I'm not driving with my son she's like I'm not driving with my son like this. There's no way we're taking like this. There's no way we're taking like this. There's no way we're taking him in the car. He can't hold any down. him in the car. He can't hold any down. him in the car. He can't hold any down. I'm like as soon as he shows that he can I'm like as soon as he shows that he can I'm like as soon as he shows that he can hold something down for 4 hours and not hold something down for 4 hours and not hold something down for 4 hours and not throw up or, you know, go to the throw up or, you know, go to the throw up or, you know, go to the bathroom. I'm like we're going. We have bathroom. I'm like we're going. We have bathroom. I'm like we're going. We have to. Cuz my sister would like she first to. Cuz my sister would like she first to. Cuz my sister would like she first he got it really bad. Then I watched my he got it really bad. Then I watched my he got it really bad. Then I watched my sister start to come down and I'm like, sister start to come down and I'm like, sister start to come down and I'm like, it's we're in this little house. It's it's we're in this little house. It's it's we're in this little house. It's only a matter of time before I get it. only a matter of time before I get it. only a matter of time before I get it. God, God, God, >> I'm like the only person I thought >> I'm like the only person I thought >> I'm like the only person I thought actually might survive was Katrina, but actually might survive was Katrina, but actually might survive was Katrina, but she got it. That was a That's the worst she got it. That was a That's the worst she got it. That was a That's the worst I've seen her since Mexico. I've seen her since Mexico. I've seen her since Mexico. >> Um, but I tell you, >> Um, but I tell you, >> Um, but I tell you, >> I swear up and down by the the sauna >> I swear up and down by the the sauna >> I swear up and down by the the sauna training. I I have again, you talk about training. I I have again, you talk about training. I I have again, you talk about things that I've been really consistent things that I've been really consistent things that I've been really consistent and inconsistent. and inconsistent. and inconsistent. >> You're like daily. >> You're like daily. >> You're like daily. >> Oh, every day. >> Oh, every day. >> Oh, every day. >> Every day I do. And I was explaining >> Every day I do. And I was explaining >> Every day I do. And I was explaining this to Katrina and maybe you can this to Katrina and maybe you can this to Katrina and maybe you can explain the science better because uh explain the science better because uh explain the science better because uh she was she was getting in with me and she was she was getting in with me and she was she was getting in with me and she doesn't like it as hot as I like it. she doesn't like it as hot as I like it. she doesn't like it as hot as I like it. So she got in and she she didn't tell So she got in and she she didn't tell So she got in and she she didn't tell me. She turned it down and I'm sitting me. She turned it down and I'm sitting me. She turned it down and I'm sitting there. I was like, "Man, I this why is there. I was like, "Man, I this why is there. I was like, "Man, I this why is this not did you turn this on off?" She this not did you turn this on off?" She this not did you turn this on off?" She goes, "Yeah, you keep it way too hot." I goes, "Yeah, you keep it way too hot." I goes, "Yeah, you keep it way too hot." I said, "Honey, you have to work your way said, "Honey, you have to work your way said, "Honey, you have to work your way up. You can't just keep it the same up. You can't just keep it the same up. You can't just keep it the same thing." She goes, "Why? I I don't get thing." She goes, "Why? I I don't get thing." She goes, "Why? I I don't get the benefits from it." I'm like, "Think the benefits from it." I'm like, "Think the benefits from it." I'm like, "Think of it like this. It's like you're using of it like this. It's like you're using of it like this. It's like you're using 5 lb dumbbells all the time. You get 5 lb dumbbells all the time. You get 5 lb dumbbells all the time. You get some benefits from that. Like if you some benefits from that. Like if you some benefits from that. Like if you didn't strength train at all and you use didn't strength train at all and you use didn't strength train at all and you use 5 lb dumbbells, 5 lb dumbbells, 5 lb dumbbells, >> like you you'll build a little bit of >> like you you'll build a little bit of >> like you you'll build a little bit of muscle and then you're going to stay the muscle and then you're going to stay the muscle and then you're going to stay the same. But if you want to get that immune same. But if you want to get that immune same. But if you want to get that immune system to get stronger and better, we system to get stronger and better, we system to get stronger and better, we got you got to you got to push it up and got you got to you got to push it up and got you got to you got to push it up and adapt and just go slowly like that. So I adapt and just go slowly like that. So I adapt and just go slowly like that. So I was trying to explain that to her that was trying to explain that to her that was trying to explain that to her that that's like if you just do a little bit that's like if you just do a little bit that's like if you just do a little bit and you do it like real easy and your and you do it like real easy and your and you do it like real easy and your body and you're comfortable body and you're comfortable body and you're comfortable >> and you do get better at tolerating it. >> and you do get better at tolerating it. >> and you do get better at tolerating it. >> You do. Oh, I've like when So when I >> You do. Oh, I've like when So when I >> You do. Oh, I've like when So when I first started it like 180 was like whoa. first started it like 180 was like whoa. first started it like 180 was like whoa. >> Which is hot. Yeah, it was hot. >> Which is hot. Yeah, it was hot. >> Which is hot. Yeah, it was hot. >> Because the gym I go to, they'll they'll >> Because the gym I go to, they'll they'll >> Because the gym I go to, they'll they'll it'll be between 160 to 200. I don't it'll be between 160 to 200. I don't it'll be between 160 to 200. I don't know how the hell know how the hell know how the hell >> they determine that. There's a big >> they determine that. There's a big >> they determine that. There's a big difference. difference. difference. >> Oh, huge. >> Oh, huge. >> Oh, huge. >> Like 160 I chill, man. 200 I'm like, >> Like 160 I chill, man. 200 I'm like, >> Like 160 I chill, man. 200 I'm like, whoa, dude. whoa, dude. whoa, dude. >> So, I I'm at I started at 180. So, I'm >> So, I I'm at I started at 180. So, I'm >> So, I I'm at I started at 180. So, I'm pushing 230 now. pushing 230 now. pushing 230 now. >> 230? >> 230? >> 230? >> Oh, yeah. 230 is hard. >> Oh, yeah. 230 is hard. >> Oh, yeah. 230 is hard. >> Is that the highest it goes? >> Is that the highest it goes? >> Is that the highest it goes? >> Yeah, 230 is where it peaks. >> Yeah, 230 is where it peaks. >> Yeah, 230 is where it peaks. >> I don't think I've ever been. >> I don't think I've ever been. >> I don't think I've ever been. >> But I worked at that. It was 180 to 190 >> But I worked at that. It was 180 to 190 >> But I worked at that. It was 180 to 190 and then 200. Then I got to the point and then 200. Then I got to the point and then 200. Then I got to the point where like I can sit in there at 200 where like I can sit in there at 200 where like I can sit in there at 200 like no problem. And now 230 cooks me. like no problem. And now 230 cooks me. like no problem. And now 230 cooks me. 2:30 I'm like at the 20 minute mark I'm 2:30 I'm like at the 20 minute mark I'm 2:30 I'm like at the 20 minute mark I'm like I get out I'm like that was tough like I get out I'm like that was tough like I get out I'm like that was tough dang dang dang >> but I I can I can do that and I've >> but I I can I can do that and I've >> but I I can I can do that and I've explained to her that that just like explained to her that that just like explained to her that that just like lifting weights like the body will adapt lifting weights like the body will adapt lifting weights like the body will adapt and then you'll and I said you don't you and then you'll and I said you don't you and then you'll and I said you don't you don't need to go from zero to 230 right don't need to go from zero to 230 right don't need to go from zero to 230 right out the gates. I'm like but try and make out the gates. I'm like but try and make out the gates. I'm like but try and make it challenging you she wants it to be it challenging you she wants it to be it challenging you she wants it to be like so relaxing. She's like I could like so relaxing. She's like I could like so relaxing. She's like I could hang out here for an hour. I was like no hang out here for an hour. I was like no hang out here for an hour. I was like no you're like it's just like the strength you're like it's just like the strength you're like it's just like the strength training thing. And I explained that to training thing. And I explained that to training thing. And I explained that to her but anyways I've I've been very her but anyways I've I've been very her but anyways I've I've been very systematic and consistent literally systematic and consistent literally systematic and consistent literally every night. I don't miss. That's my every night. I don't miss. That's my every night. I don't miss. That's my routine. And I've worked up to where I'm routine. And I've worked up to where I'm routine. And I've worked up to where I'm 20 minutes over over 220. 20 minutes over over 220. 20 minutes over over 220. >> I'm not super familiar with sauna use >> I'm not super familiar with sauna use >> I'm not super familiar with sauna use and immune system. Maybe Doug, and immune system. Maybe Doug, and immune system. Maybe Doug, >> you there has to be. >> you there has to be. >> you there has to be. >> Oh, I already I went down the rabbit >> Oh, I already I went down the rabbit >> Oh, I already I went down the rabbit hole because I'm so it's 100% immune hole because I'm so it's 100% immune hole because I'm so it's 100% immune boosting. That's boosting. That's boosting. That's >> so it it so it makes sense because uh >> so it it so it makes sense because uh >> so it it so it makes sense because uh when you get a fever, your body when you get a fever, your body when you get a fever, your body temperature goes up and part of that is temperature goes up and part of that is temperature goes up and part of that is your immune system kicking up. Yeah. So your immune system kicking up. Yeah. So your immune system kicking up. Yeah. So I'm wondering if it simulates it's a I'm wondering if it simulates it's a I'm wondering if it simulates it's a mild hermetic stressor mild hermetic stressor mild hermetic stressor >> triggering an artificial fever state >> triggering an artificial fever state >> triggering an artificial fever state immune system. So the intense heat immune system. So the intense heat immune system. So the intense heat mobilizes frontline defenses temporarily mobilizes frontline defenses temporarily mobilizes frontline defenses temporarily increasing circulating white blood cells increasing circulating white blood cells increasing circulating white blood cells >> and promoting the production of >> and promoting the production of >> and promoting the production of protective heat shock proteins. Okay. protective heat shock proteins. Okay. protective heat shock proteins. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So you're doing like an artificial fever >> So you're doing like an artificial fever >> So you're doing like an artificial fever every night. every night. every night. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> And I and I think that this is what and >> And I and I think that this is what and >> And I and I think that this is what and I've when I've been when I like you I've when I've been when I like you I've when I've been when I like you we've all talked about this before how we've all talked about this before how we've all talked about this before how weak my immune system is. I have a very weak my immune system is. I have a very weak my immune system is. I have a very weak immune system and if someone gets I weak immune system and if someone gets I weak immune system and if someone gets I hear one of you coffee I'm like I'm next hear one of you coffee I'm like I'm next hear one of you coffee I'm like I'm next you know it's just it's I'm done you know it's just it's I'm done you know it's just it's I'm done >> and the only times that I haven't been >> and the only times that I haven't been >> and the only times that I haven't been done is when I'm really consistent with done is when I'm really consistent with done is when I'm really consistent with this when I'm really really good about this when I'm really really good about this when I'm really really good about about doing it and I I'm like that every about doing it and I I'm like that every about doing it and I I'm like that every Katrina's had a couple of our her Katrina's had a couple of our her Katrina's had a couple of our her friends that caught the norvice iris and friends that caught the norvice iris and friends that caught the norvice iris and she's like it wrecked everybody's whole she's like it wrecked everybody's whole she's like it wrecked everybody's whole family everybody that they know that family everybody that they know that family everybody that they know that have had it and they're like Adam didn't have had it and they're like Adam didn't have had it and they're like Adam didn't get sick and I'm like no and I was and I get sick and I'm like no and I was and I get sick and I'm like no and I was and I swear where it was at. swear where it was at. swear where it was at. >> They're reporting it as like flying >> They're reporting it as like flying >> They're reporting it as like flying through Northern California. Doug, did through Northern California. Doug, did through Northern California. Doug, did you did you know that? Look up stomach you did you know that? Look up stomach you did you know that? Look up stomach bug Northern California. Click on um bug Northern California. Click on um bug Northern California. Click on um news articles. They're like writing news articles. They're like writing news articles. They're like writing articles about it cuz I guess it's like articles about it cuz I guess it's like articles about it cuz I guess it's like flying through our area. flying through our area. flying through our area. >> I I haven't seen >> I I haven't seen >> I I haven't seen >> I do not want it. It's the worst. I It >> I do not want it. It's the worst. I It >> I do not want it. It's the worst. I It doesn't It's It takes a lot for me to I doesn't It's It takes a lot for me to I doesn't It's It takes a lot for me to I don't And I obviously I don't let don't And I obviously I don't let don't And I obviously I don't let Katrina see this or feel this from me, Katrina see this or feel this from me, Katrina see this or feel this from me, >> but I was scared for Max >> but I was scared for Max >> but I was scared for Max >> like that. There there there came a >> like that. There there there came a >> like that. There there there came a point where like you like he's like point where like you like he's like point where like you like he's like non-responsive and like non-responsive and like non-responsive and like >> you know what I'm saying? And seeing him >> you know what I'm saying? And seeing him >> you know what I'm saying? And seeing him that that that >> out of it and sick and like and then >> out of it and sick and like and then >> out of it and sick and like and then knowing that like I should take him to knowing that like I should take him to knowing that like I should take him to the hospital and I'm like oh my god I'm the hospital and I'm like oh my god I'm the hospital and I'm like oh my god I'm going to take him to the hospital and going to take him to the hospital and going to take him to the hospital and they're going to put an IV in them and they're going to put an IV in them and they're going to put an IV in them and that's going to be traumatic like oh that's going to be traumatic like oh that's going to be traumatic like oh being on the fence. being on the fence. being on the fence. >> Look how they test it. They test the the >> Look how they test it. They test the the >> Look how they test it. They test the the wastewater data. So they test it for the wastewater data. So they test it for the wastewater data. So they test it for the stomach viruses and it says that there's stomach viruses and it says that there's stomach viruses and it says that there's a a high amount in San Jose, Fremont, a a high amount in San Jose, Fremont, a a high amount in San Jose, Fremont, San Francisco, Redwood City, and San Francisco, Redwood City, and San Francisco, Redwood City, and PaloAlto right now. PaloAlto right now. PaloAlto right now. >> Oh our whole area. Yeah. Oh, awesome. >> Oh our whole area. Yeah. Oh, awesome. >> Oh our whole area. Yeah. Oh, awesome. >> So, it's like a whole wave of >> So, it's like a whole wave of >> So, it's like a whole wave of >> Wa, dude. >> Wa, dude. >> Wa, dude. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I don't want that. >> I don't want that. >> I don't want that. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> that's the worst. I I think the only >> that's the worst. I I think the only >> that's the worst. I I think the only thing that I would say is that on par thing that I would say is that on par thing that I would say is that on par with that is like when you have a really with that is like when you have a really with that is like when you have a really bad flu that lasts like a week and a bad flu that lasts like a week and a bad flu that lasts like a week and a half. half. half. >> Like they're pretty close. >> Like they're pretty close. >> Like they're pretty close. >> I mean, that took it took us We went We >> I mean, that took it took us We went We >> I mean, that took it took us We went We all left for a little break there all left for a little break there all left for a little break there Wednesday to Tuesday. 6 days Wednesday to Tuesday. 6 days Wednesday to Tuesday. 6 days >> of my whole house being just tore up. >> of my whole house being just tore up. >> of my whole house being just tore up. Dude, Dude, Dude, >> the worst time I ever got anything >> the worst time I ever got anything >> the worst time I ever got anything stomach-wise. Do you guys remember when stomach-wise. Do you guys remember when stomach-wise. Do you guys remember when I went to Thailand? Yeah, I went to Thailand? Yeah, I went to Thailand? Yeah, >> when I first started food poisoning, >> when I first started food poisoning, >> when I first started food poisoning, >> dude, that was >> dude, that was >> dude, that was >> food poisoning. >> food poisoning. >> food poisoning. >> That's what the norice watching them go >> That's what the norice watching them go >> That's what the norice watching them go through it, it reminds me of food through it, it reminds me of food through it, it reminds me of food poisoning. But food poisoning at least poisoning. But food poisoning at least poisoning. But food poisoning at least is normally out 24 or 48 hours. is normally out 24 or 48 hours. is normally out 24 or 48 hours. >> 24 48 hours you normally it's it's a >> 24 48 hours you normally it's it's a >> 24 48 hours you normally it's it's a hard 24 48 hours. But then once you kind hard 24 48 hours. But then once you kind hard 24 48 hours. But then once you kind of get all the way you can you can start of get all the way you can you can start of get all the way you can you can start to hold water down and food like you're to hold water down and food like you're to hold water down and food like you're kind of you're out of it where they were kind of you're out of it where they were kind of you're out of it where they were they were bad for me. they were bad for me. they were bad for me. >> That trip was so funny because it was >> That trip was so funny because it was >> That trip was so funny because it was when I first started dating Jessica. So when I first started dating Jessica. So when I first started dating Jessica. So I'm like, you know, you know, you first I'm like, you know, you know, you first I'm like, you know, you know, you first start dating a girl and you really like start dating a girl and you really like start dating a girl and you really like her, you're like, "Yeah, I'll do her, you're like, "Yeah, I'll do her, you're like, "Yeah, I'll do whatever you want." She's like, "We're whatever you want." She's like, "We're whatever you want." She's like, "We're going to go to Thailand. We're testing going to go to Thailand. We're testing going to go to Thailand. We're testing you." And I'm like, "You know, you guys you." And I'm like, "You know, you guys you." And I'm like, "You know, you guys know me and that kind of stuff." All know me and that kind of stuff." All know me and that kind of stuff." All right, cool. You know, I'll do that. right, cool. You know, I'll do that. right, cool. You know, I'll do that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The guy doesn't leave his block. >> The guy doesn't leave his block. >> The guy doesn't leave his block. >> That was like that one window of >> That was like that one window of >> That was like that one window of adventurous south. I remember that, adventurous south. I remember that, adventurous south. I remember that, dude. And I was like, whoa, you're doing dude. And I was like, whoa, you're doing dude. And I was like, whoa, you're doing that, that, that, >> dude. And we get there and we we we land >> dude. And we get there and we we we land >> dude. And we get there and we we we land in Bangkok first and I'm like in my in Bangkok first and I'm like in my in Bangkok first and I'm like in my mind, I'm like, you know what? I'm going mind, I'm like, you know what? I'm going mind, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to be more adventurous. Like this is a to be more adventurous. Like this is a to be more adventurous. Like this is a new cell, right? So, I eat street food new cell, right? So, I eat street food new cell, right? So, I eat street food in Bangkok, which is not a good idea. in Bangkok, which is not a good idea. in Bangkok, which is not a good idea. But guess what? Didn't get anything. So, But guess what? Didn't get anything. So, But guess what? Didn't get anything. So, my confidence exploded. I'm my confidence exploded. I'm my confidence exploded. I'm >> like, maybe I'm just scared of nothing. >> like, maybe I'm just scared of nothing. >> like, maybe I'm just scared of nothing. Like, I'm totally fine. Then, we go to Like, I'm totally fine. Then, we go to Like, I'm totally fine. Then, we go to resort issues already. resort issues already. resort issues already. >> We go to a resort in in Cop. And so, we >> We go to a resort in in Cop. And so, we >> We go to a resort in in Cop. And so, we take a boat there. The whole deal. It's take a boat there. The whole deal. It's take a boat there. The whole deal. It's an actual resort. And they made me a an actual resort. And they made me a an actual resort. And they made me a mixed drink with a sliced banana in mixed drink with a sliced banana in mixed drink with a sliced banana in there. And the skin, that's where I there. And the skin, that's where I there. And the skin, that's where I think I got it was in the drink. think I got it was in the drink. think I got it was in the drink. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> And I drank the drink. >> And I drank the drink. >> And I drank the drink. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That night went to bed, dude. and it >> That night went to bed, dude. and it >> That night went to bed, dude. and it started hitting me and I got so bad I started hitting me and I got so bad I started hitting me and I got so bad I had a fever that was like 104 or five had a fever that was like 104 or five had a fever that was like 104 or five and I started hallucinating. You ever and I started hallucinating. You ever and I started hallucinating. You ever hallucinate as an adult? hallucinate as an adult? hallucinate as an adult? >> Not a good not a good deal. >> Not a good not a good deal. >> Not a good not a good deal. >> There's definitely levels of food >> There's definitely levels of food >> There's definitely levels of food poisoning because I've I've had it three poisoning because I've I've had it three poisoning because I've I've had it three times and I've had a you know very mild times and I've had a you know very mild times and I've had a you know very mild a pretty bad and then I called my mom a pretty bad and then I called my mom a pretty bad and then I called my mom as an adult as a grown ass dad like I as an adult as a grown ass dad like I as an adult as a grown ass dad like I don't feel like you going to come here don't feel like you going to come here don't feel like you going to come here like scared bro like scared as an adult like scared bro like scared as an adult like scared bro like scared as an adult like rub my back. It was so I remember like rub my back. It was so I remember like rub my back. It was so I remember it was so bad that you you cannot you it was so bad that you you cannot you it was so bad that you you cannot you can't even hold water down. It's coming can't even hold water down. It's coming can't even hold water down. It's coming out both ends. And then you do that for out both ends. And then you do that for out both ends. And then you do that for so long that you can't even lay on a bed so long that you can't even lay on a bed so long that you can't even lay on a bed cuz your body aches. cuz your body aches. cuz your body aches. >> Yes. So >> Yes. So >> Yes. So >> I was seeing things I did. I was >> I was seeing things I did. I was >> I was seeing things I did. I was terrible. And then poor Jessica, we're terrible. And then poor Jessica, we're terrible. And then poor Jessica, we're in Thailand and I'm like I need a doctor in Thailand and I'm like I need a doctor in Thailand and I'm like I need a doctor and I can't go anywhere. I literally and I can't go anywhere. I literally and I can't go anywhere. I literally can't move. So she poor girl finds some can't move. So she poor girl finds some can't move. So she poor girl finds some random dude to take her on a motorcycle random dude to take her on a motorcycle random dude to take her on a motorcycle to a place which thank God that worked to a place which thank God that worked to a place which thank God that worked out to find these doctors that would out to find these doctors that would out to find these doctors that would come to your room. I mean, when they come to your room. I mean, when they come to your room. I mean, when they came to my room, they hooked me up with came to my room, they hooked me up with came to my room, they hooked me up with IVs. IVs. IVs. >> To be in another country and go through >> To be in another country and go through >> To be in another country and go through that is crazy. that is crazy. that is crazy. >> I mean, that like I didn't I was mad >> I mean, that like I didn't I was mad >> I mean, that like I didn't I was mad that I told Patrina like I want to get that I told Patrina like I want to get that I told Patrina like I want to get to our city. I didn't even like being to our city. I didn't even like being to our city. I didn't even like being out of our little city knowing where out of our little city knowing where out of our little city knowing where family and our doctors are. So, to be in family and our doctors are. So, to be in family and our doctors are. So, to be in another country is like another country is like another country is like >> she just hopped on the back of some >> she just hopped on the back of some >> she just hopped on the back of some motorbike, dude. motorbike, dude. motorbike, dude. And they showed up by my room and they And they showed up by my room and they And they showed up by my room and they were kind of dressed in like normal were kind of dressed in like normal were kind of dressed in like normal clothes and I'm like, I really hope clothes and I'm like, I really hope clothes and I'm like, I really hope they're real. they're real. they're real. >> They're like, which procedure are we >> They're like, which procedure are we >> They're like, which procedure are we doing here? doing here? doing here? >> Yeah, dude. I'm like And then they >> Yeah, dude. I'm like And then they >> Yeah, dude. I'm like And then they hooked up. You're still the same J. hooked up. You're still the same J. hooked up. You're still the same J. >> And then I got this like crazy >> And then I got this like crazy >> And then I got this like crazy >> some like random shaman or something >> some like random shaman or something >> some like random shaman or something like that. like that. like that. >> I know >> I know >> I know they're going to burn some some bad. they're going to burn some some bad. they're going to burn some some bad. >> But no, I obviously worked and then the >> But no, I obviously worked and then the >> But no, I obviously worked and then the rest of the trip I was on these rest of the trip I was on these rest of the trip I was on these antibiotics that made me sensitive to antibiotics that made me sensitive to antibiotics that made me sensitive to the sun. So we're in Thailand and I the sun. So we're in Thailand and I the sun. So we're in Thailand and I couldn't even go in the sun cuz I get couldn't even go in the sun cuz I get couldn't even go in the sun cuz I get like a rash. Oh man, it was a it was a like a rash. Oh man, it was a it was a like a rash. Oh man, it was a it was a bonding. bonding. bonding. >> What day? What day was it early in the >> What day? What day was it early in the >> What day? What day was it early in the trip? trip? trip? >> Oh yeah, it was like the second or the >> Oh yeah, it was like the second or the >> Oh yeah, it was like the second or the second day or something. second day or something. second day or something. >> Oh, that sucks. >> Oh, that sucks. >> Oh, that sucks. >> Yeah, cuz we were in Bangkok one night >> Yeah, cuz we were in Bangkok one night >> Yeah, cuz we were in Bangkok one night then the second day and then it was that then the second day and then it was that then the second day and then it was that night and then I was like totally messed night and then I was like totally messed night and then I was like totally messed up. up. up. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then the rest of the >> Yeah. Yeah. And then the rest of the >> Yeah. Yeah. And then the rest of the trip I was I was just I couldn't be in trip I was I was just I couldn't be in trip I was I was just I couldn't be in that sun that long and that sun that long and that sun that long and >> it was just it was it was terrible. >> it was just it was it was terrible. >> it was just it was it was terrible. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> But it was a nice like test for early >> But it was a nice like test for early >> But it was a nice like test for early relationship like how you handle relationship like how you handle relationship like how you handle >> how you going to handle all this >> how you going to handle all this >> how you going to handle all this stripes. stripes. stripes. >> You know, you you you were bringing up >> You know, you you you were bringing up >> You know, you you you were bringing up snacks that people love the I think the snacks that people love the I think the snacks that people love the I think the one of the other hottest ones that we we one of the other hottest ones that we we one of the other hottest ones that we we haven't brought up on the on the podcast haven't brought up on the on the podcast haven't brought up on the on the podcast is the Rice Krispy Legion bars. is the Rice Krispy Legion bars. is the Rice Krispy Legion bars. >> I don't eat those because they're dairy, >> I don't eat those because they're dairy, >> I don't eat those because they're dairy, but you guys love them. but you guys love them. but you guys love them. >> Those are always gone, dude. It's you >> Those are always gone, dude. It's you >> Those are always gone, dude. It's you and the staff. and the staff. and the staff. >> I trained the team when they come in. >> I trained the team when they come in. >> I trained the team when they come in. And I you have a bunch of macros on. I And I you have a bunch of macros on. I And I you have a bunch of macros on. I remember asking for that and they were remember asking for that and they were remember asking for that and they were gone. gone. gone. >> Like I want to say they're >> Like I want to say they're >> Like I want to say they're >> there's 15 I think >> there's 15 I think >> there's 15 I think >> they're only like 15 grams but small >> they're only like 15 grams but small >> they're only like 15 grams but small calories like 190 calories. Really? calories like 190 calories. Really? calories like 190 calories. Really? >> Yeah. 190 calories and uh protein is >> Yeah. 190 calories and uh protein is >> Yeah. 190 calories and uh protein is where am I? Oh uh 15. Yeah. where am I? Oh uh 15. Yeah. where am I? Oh uh 15. Yeah. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. But they taste like a Rice >> Yeah. But they taste like a Rice >> Yeah. But they taste like a Rice Krispie. Krispie. Krispie. >> Like an actual Rice Krispie. >> Like an actual Rice Krispie. >> Like an actual Rice Krispie. >> Yes, dude. They're they're >> Yes, dude. They're they're >> Yes, dude. They're they're >> Cuz I see you eating them all the time. >> Cuz I see you eating them all the time. >> Cuz I see you eating them all the time. >> I eat them all the time. It's like my my >> I eat them all the time. It's like my my >> I eat them all the time. It's like my my little morning snack that I have. But little morning snack that I have. But little morning snack that I have. But and they go so fast. Wow. and they go so fast. Wow. and they go so fast. Wow. >> Yeah. To the point where I hide a I hide >> Yeah. To the point where I hide a I hide >> Yeah. To the point where I hide a I hide a box in a box in a box in >> I just saw you pull out. You know what's >> I just saw you pull out. You know what's >> I just saw you pull out. You know what's great you know what's crazy is that um great you know what's crazy is that um great you know what's crazy is that um because we're kind of in our bubble and because we're kind of in our bubble and because we're kind of in our bubble and um I don't I feel like everybody um I don't I feel like everybody um I don't I feel like everybody speaking of supplements I feel like speaking of supplements I feel like speaking of supplements I feel like everybody by now knows the benefits of everybody by now knows the benefits of everybody by now knows the benefits of creatine. And I was at um I was at a creatine. And I was at um I was at a creatine. And I was at um I was at a thing last night and I'm in this group thing last night and I'm in this group thing last night and I'm in this group um and there's a woman next to me and um and there's a woman next to me and um and there's a woman next to me and we're talking and she's asking me about we're talking and she's asking me about we're talking and she's asking me about like supplements and should I take like supplements and should I take like supplements and should I take protein powder? She's a vegan and so I protein powder? She's a vegan and so I protein powder? She's a vegan and so I mentioned creatine and she's like, "How mentioned creatine and she's like, "How mentioned creatine and she's like, "How do you spell that?" I'm like, "Do you do you spell that?" I'm like, "Do you do you spell that?" I'm like, "Do you don't know what creatine is?" She's don't know what creatine is?" She's don't know what creatine is?" She's like, "No." So I'm like telling her all like, "No." So I'm like telling her all like, "No." So I'm like telling her all about it about it about it >> and she had no idea. Uh and I'm like I'm >> and she had no idea. Uh and I'm like I'm >> and she had no idea. Uh and I'm like I'm listing the benefits for women. I'm like listing the benefits for women. I'm like listing the benefits for women. I'm like >> and vegan she's going to have all kinds >> and vegan she's going to have all kinds >> and vegan she's going to have all kinds of benefit. of benefit. of benefit. >> That's what I told her. I said the data >> That's what I told her. I said the data >> That's what I told her. I said the data shows well first of all creatine shows well first of all creatine shows well first of all creatine benefits everybody but if especially if benefits everybody but if especially if benefits everybody but if especially if you're a vegan you'll get a boost in IQ. you're a vegan you'll get a boost in IQ. you're a vegan you'll get a boost in IQ. >> You'll actually get a boost in IQ from >> You'll actually get a boost in IQ from >> You'll actually get a boost in IQ from supplementing. She's like where do I get supplementing. She's like where do I get supplementing. She's like where do I get it from? animal, you know, meat, but you it from? animal, you know, meat, but you it from? animal, you know, meat, but you don't eat that, but you could take it um don't eat that, but you could take it um don't eat that, but you could take it um in supplement form and it's vegan. in supplement form and it's vegan. in supplement form and it's vegan. >> So, I was talking about it's like a >> So, I was talking about it's like a >> So, I was talking about it's like a reduces anxiety, increases motivation, reduces anxiety, increases motivation, reduces anxiety, increases motivation, it's going to help you with your it's going to help you with your it's going to help you with your strength, it's going to help you with strength, it's going to help you with strength, it's going to help you with your cognitive function. So, I cannot your cognitive function. So, I cannot your cognitive function. So, I cannot wait to hear from her. wait to hear from her. wait to hear from her. >> Yeah. After she takes know what it was. >> Yeah. After she takes know what it was. >> Yeah. After she takes know what it was. >> Yeah, that's wild. >> Yeah, that's wild. >> Yeah, that's wild. >> That is weird. >> That is weird. >> That is weird. >> Yeah. So, I I point I pointed her to >> Yeah. So, I I point I pointed her to >> Yeah. So, I I point I pointed her to Legion as well because they also have Legion as well because they also have Legion as well because they also have really really good source to really really good source to really really good source to >> Dude, I got I actually have some snack >> Dude, I got I actually have some snack >> Dude, I got I actually have some snack information, too, since you guys keep information, too, since you guys keep information, too, since you guys keep bringing it up. Um, so this is uh bringing it up. Um, so this is uh bringing it up. Um, so this is uh revolving around uh an animal. It's a revolving around uh an animal. It's a revolving around uh an animal. It's a shriek bird. You ever heard of a shriek shriek bird. You ever heard of a shriek shriek bird. You ever heard of a shriek bird? bird? bird? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Your animal knowledge. I I have to bring >> Your animal knowledge. I I have to bring >> Your animal knowledge. I I have to bring >> I saw your notes and I thought it said >> I saw your notes and I thought it said >> I saw your notes and I thought it said Shrek bird like the cartoon. Shrek bird like the cartoon. Shrek bird like the cartoon. >> Oh no, it's not a Shrek. It's it's >> Oh no, it's not a Shrek. It's it's >> Oh no, it's not a Shrek. It's it's Shriek. Um but it it has this like Shriek. Um but it it has this like Shriek. Um but it it has this like unique bill. So it's like a hooked bill unique bill. So it's like a hooked bill unique bill. So it's like a hooked bill and it can't like and it can't like and it can't like >> it can't kill uh prey easy. So it it had >> it can't kill uh prey easy. So it it had >> it can't kill uh prey easy. So it it had to come up with like this like solution to come up with like this like solution to come up with like this like solution which is pretty brilliant. Um, it it which is pretty brilliant. Um, it it which is pretty brilliant. Um, it it actually lives like in these thorny kind actually lives like in these thorny kind actually lives like in these thorny kind of bushes like a I don't know if it's of bushes like a I don't know if it's of bushes like a I don't know if it's like it's like this crazy long thorns like it's like this crazy long thorns like it's like this crazy long thorns some trees. some trees. some trees. >> Yeah, it's a picture of it right there. >> Yeah, it's a picture of it right there. >> Yeah, it's a picture of it right there. Doug has it right there. Doug has it right there. Doug has it right there. >> Yeah. So, what it does is it in it takes >> Yeah. So, what it does is it in it takes >> Yeah. So, what it does is it in it takes the prey and then it impales them. the prey and then it impales them. the prey and then it impales them. >> Oh, that's that's what that is right >> Oh, that's that's what that is right >> Oh, that's that's what that is right there. He's stuck he stuck another bird there. He's stuck he stuck another bird there. He's stuck he stuck another bird through the thing through the thing through the thing >> through Yeah. through theorn fish. >> through Yeah. through theorn fish. >> through Yeah. through theorn fish. >> It's a bird. >> It's a bird. >> It's a bird. >> So, it'll do that with all kinds of >> So, it'll do that with all kinds of >> So, it'll do that with all kinds of stuff like rodents with insects like big stuff like rodents with insects like big stuff like rodents with insects like big insects. It just skewers them. So you'll insects. It just skewers them. So you'll insects. It just skewers them. So you'll see some of these bushes with like just, see some of these bushes with like just, see some of these bushes with like just, you know, carcasses all over the place you know, carcasses all over the place you know, carcasses all over the place and they snack on them and they just and they snack on them and they just and they snack on them and they just like, you know, eat take pieces of them like, you know, eat take pieces of them like, you know, eat take pieces of them off. off. off. >> Of course you like this. >> Of course you like this. >> Of course you like this. >> I just Well, it's brilliant bird. >> I just Well, it's brilliant bird. >> I just Well, it's brilliant bird. >> It's like a This bird's metal. >> It's like a This bird's metal. >> It's like a This bird's metal. >> Yeah. What are you What are you reading >> Yeah. What are you What are you reading >> Yeah. What are you What are you reading or watching for this to pop up? or watching for this to pop up? or watching for this to pop up? >> Well, them, dude. He likes this stuff. >> Well, them, dude. He likes this stuff. >> Well, them, dude. He likes this stuff. >> Yeah. No, did it pop up on the on your >> Yeah. No, did it pop up on the on your >> Yeah. No, did it pop up on the on your >> I actually got to give credit. Somebody >> I actually got to give credit. Somebody >> I actually got to give credit. Somebody DM'd me this one and I was like, "Wow, DM'd me this one and I was like, "Wow, DM'd me this one and I was like, "Wow, this is cool." Yeah, they they know me, this is cool." Yeah, they they know me, this is cool." Yeah, they they know me, I think, pretty well at this point. I think, pretty well at this point. I think, pretty well at this point. >> I mean, I like this stuff, too. I mean, >> I mean, I like this stuff, too. I mean, >> I mean, I like this stuff, too. I mean, that that that I love that Nature's that that that I love that Nature's that that that I love that Nature's Metal Metal Metal >> I love that. >> I love that. >> I love that. >> Have you guys ever seen that? There's a >> Have you guys ever seen that? There's a >> Have you guys ever seen that? There's a fish that has its eyeballs inside of its fish that has its eyeballs inside of its fish that has its eyeballs inside of its head, but its skin is translucent. So, head, but its skin is translucent. So, head, but its skin is translucent. So, have you seen this? have you seen this? have you seen this? >> I think I see that. Yeah. >> I think I see that. Yeah. >> I think I see that. Yeah. >> Weird. >> Weird. >> Weird. >> Super weird. >> Super weird. >> Super weird. >> And then there's a fish with human >> And then there's a fish with human >> And then there's a fish with human teeth. That one's my favorite. teeth. That one's my favorite. teeth. That one's my favorite. >> Yeah. Look at that. His eyes are inside >> Yeah. Look at that. His eyes are inside >> Yeah. Look at that. His eyes are inside his head, his head, his head, >> but it's the barrel fish. Uh but why why >> but it's the barrel fish. Uh but why why >> but it's the barrel fish. Uh but why why is it is it is it >> Yeah. And it's all like transparent. >> Yeah. And it's all like transparent. >> Yeah. And it's all like transparent. >> It protects. What is it about? And I >> It protects. What is it about? And I >> It protects. What is it about? And I know you guys are all we're all we all know you guys are all we're all we all know you guys are all we're all we all have this in common. This is one of one have this in common. This is one of one have this in common. This is one of one of the few things that we all share in of the few things that we all share in of the few things that we all share in common. Like we could all watch common. Like we could all watch common. Like we could all watch >> like the Discovery Channel and just like >> like the Discovery Channel and just like >> like the Discovery Channel and just like zone out on like zone out on like zone out on like >> I geek out on nature. Yeah. >> I geek out on nature. Yeah. >> I geek out on nature. Yeah. >> Yeah. I could watch that for Katrina >> Yeah. I could watch that for Katrina >> Yeah. I could watch that for Katrina makes fun of me all the time about that. makes fun of me all the time about that. makes fun of me all the time about that. Like I cannot How can you just watch Like I cannot How can you just watch Like I cannot How can you just watch that? I'm like what do you how could you that? I'm like what do you how could you that? I'm like what do you how could you not? not? not? >> What do you mean? How could you not? >> What do you mean? How could you not? >> What do you mean? How could you not? It's so interesting. It's so interesting. It's so interesting. >> It's interesting. They have like the >> It's interesting. They have like the >> It's interesting. They have like the right music playing behind it. Nar and right music playing behind it. Nar and right music playing behind it. Nar and then David. then David. then David. >> Oh man, just I like I melt through my >> Oh man, just I like I melt through my >> Oh man, just I like I melt through my bed watching it. bed watching it. bed watching it. >> It's like hypnosis, dude. I swear like >> It's like hypnosis, dude. I swear like >> It's like hypnosis, dude. I swear like I'll sit there and I'll watch like Yeah. I'll sit there and I'll watch like Yeah. I'll sit there and I'll watch like Yeah. It's like beautiful nature and then it's It's like beautiful nature and then it's It's like beautiful nature and then it's like, you know, you'll see some predator like, you know, you'll see some predator like, you know, you'll see some predator coming out of nowhere and just like coming out of nowhere and just like coming out of nowhere and just like >> I mean I feel like it's the closest >> I mean I feel like it's the closest >> I mean I feel like it's the closest thing uh to you actually because nothing thing uh to you actually because nothing thing uh to you actually because nothing trumps you being out in that, right? trumps you being out in that, right? trumps you being out in that, right? Like nothing like sitting on the sand Like nothing like sitting on the sand Like nothing like sitting on the sand and the waves crashing in the beach in and the waves crashing in the beach in and the waves crashing in the beach in front of you or being in a rainforest or front of you or being in a rainforest or front of you or being in a rainforest or something like that. There's nothing something like that. There's nothing something like that. There's nothing like that experience in person. That's like that experience in person. That's like that experience in person. That's the next closest thing. the next closest thing. the next closest thing. >> Would you guys ever want to do like a >> Would you guys ever want to do like a >> Would you guys ever want to do like a safari? safari? safari? >> Oh, I totally do that. >> Oh, I totally do that. >> Oh, I totally do that. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> That would be so crazy to like watch a >> That would be so crazy to like watch a >> That would be so crazy to like watch a lion. lion. lion. >> Would love that. >> Would love that. >> Would love that. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> take down a gazelle or something like >> take down a gazelle or something like >> take down a gazelle or something like that. that. that. >> You ever seen the videos of safaris >> You ever seen the videos of safaris >> You ever seen the videos of safaris where where where >> the the lion or the tiger looks like >> the the lion or the tiger looks like >> the the lion or the tiger looks like it's coming after the the vehicle and it's coming after the the vehicle and it's coming after the the vehicle and they try and take off? There's one video they try and take off? There's one video they try and take off? There's one video of this like safari and I think I don't of this like safari and I think I don't of this like safari and I think I don't know where it's at, but it's it's a know where it's at, but it's it's a know where it's at, but it's it's a tiger, so it's got to be India or tiger, so it's got to be India or tiger, so it's got to be India or somewhere else like that. They're somewhere else like that. They're somewhere else like that. They're driving away and the tiger runs and driving away and the tiger runs and driving away and the tiger runs and jumps jumps jumps >> and jumps them in >> and jumps them in >> and jumps them in >> almost like almost like they can leap so >> almost like almost like they can leap so >> almost like almost like they can leap so far far far >> and it's jump and it's like a frozen >> and it's jump and it's like a frozen >> and it's jump and it's like a frozen picture of it like claws coming out like picture of it like claws coming out like picture of it like claws coming out like I'm like oh my god dude if I was at like I'm like oh my god dude if I was at like I'm like oh my god dude if I was at like the San Francisco Zoo that huge gap the San Francisco Zoo that huge gap the San Francisco Zoo that huge gap between um you know where the their um between um you know where the their um between um you know where the their um where people are like watching from the where people are like watching from the where people are like watching from the fence like it's being able to cross jump fence like it's being able to cross jump fence like it's being able to cross jump over that over that over that >> and actually like make it it killed >> and actually like make it it killed >> and actually like make it it killed somebody somebody somebody >> dude. Yeah. >> dude. Yeah. >> dude. Yeah. >> What? Yes. >> What? Yes. >> What? Yes. >> Look at that. See, it just jumps up and >> Look at that. See, it just jumps up and >> Look at that. See, it just jumps up and just there. just there. just there. >> That's happened before. Yeah. I forget. >> That's happened before. Yeah. I forget. >> That's happened before. Yeah. I forget. It was like somebody was taunting. It was like somebody was taunting. It was like somebody was taunting. >> There was this one video, >> There was this one video, >> There was this one video, >> the tiger, and it jumped up. >> the tiger, and it jumped up. >> the tiger, and it jumped up. >> There was this one video. >> There was this one video. >> There was this one video. >> Yeah, there's all kinds of videos of >> Yeah, there's all kinds of videos of >> Yeah, there's all kinds of videos of tigers jumping on cars. Dude, tigers jumping on cars. Dude, tigers jumping on cars. Dude, >> tigers are monsters for sure. >> tigers are monsters for sure. >> tigers are monsters for sure. >> Yeah, they hunt. They in certain areas >> Yeah, they hunt. They in certain areas >> Yeah, they hunt. They in certain areas they become manhunters where they they become manhunters where they they become manhunters where they actually get the taste of human blood. actually get the taste of human blood. actually get the taste of human blood. >> Well, isn't that movie based off of a >> Well, isn't that movie based off of a >> Well, isn't that movie based off of a true story? true story? true story? >> Oh, I know what you're talking about. >> Oh, I know what you're talking about. >> Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yes. It's called It's called uh Yes. It's called It's called uh Yes. It's called It's called uh >> like this famous tiger that was like so >> like this famous tiger that was like so >> like this famous tiger that was like so many people. many people. many people. >> Ghost in the darkness. >> Ghost in the darkness. >> Ghost in the darkness. >> That was about lions. >> That was about lions. >> That was about lions. >> Oh, that was a lion. It was a lion. >> Oh, that was a lion. It was a lion. >> Oh, that was a lion. It was a lion. Okay. But that's that was based on a Okay. But that's that was based on a Okay. But that's that was based on a true story, wasn't it? true story, wasn't it? true story, wasn't it? >> Yes, I believe so. Yeah. >> Yes, I believe so. Yeah. >> Yes, I believe so. Yeah. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> And it was for to what you just said, >> And it was for to what you just said, >> And it was for to what you just said, like he got the smell or the taste of it like he got the smell or the taste of it like he got the smell or the taste of it and then all a sudden it and then all a sudden it and then all a sudden it >> There's one predator that will almost >> There's one predator that will almost >> There's one predator that will almost always hunt a human if he sees it, which always hunt a human if he sees it, which always hunt a human if he sees it, which a polar bear. a polar bear. a polar bear. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you see >> If you see >> If you see >> I know they're one of the most >> I know they're one of the most >> I know they're one of the most dangerous. I didn't know that they will dangerous. I didn't know that they will dangerous. I didn't know that they will actually go hunt a human. actually go hunt a human. actually go hunt a human. >> If you see a grizzly, uh it doesn't >> If you see a grizzly, uh it doesn't >> If you see a grizzly, uh it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to come hunt necessarily mean he's going to come hunt necessarily mean he's going to come hunt you and kill you. Yeah. you and kill you. Yeah. you and kill you. Yeah. >> When they say you see a polar bear, oh, >> When they say you see a polar bear, oh, >> When they say you see a polar bear, oh, he's he's he's >> Oh, you're done. Sorry. >> Oh, you're done. Sorry. >> Oh, you're done. Sorry. >> He's going to track you. He's going to >> He's going to track you. He's going to >> He's going to track you. He's going to come after food's so scarce. It's It's a come after food's so scarce. It's It's a come after food's so scarce. It's It's a survival thing for survival thing for survival thing for >> There you go. Polar bears are one of the >> There you go. Polar bears are one of the >> There you go. Polar bears are one of the very few animals that will actively hunt very few animals that will actively hunt very few animals that will actively hunt humans for food. humans for food. humans for food. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So, like if you see a polar bear, >> So, like if you see a polar bear, >> So, like if you see a polar bear, >> get the [ __ ] out. >> get the [ __ ] out. >> get the [ __ ] out. >> Well, you got you you got to be ready. >> Well, you got you you got to be ready. >> Well, you got you you got to be ready. Like, homeboy is going to come. He's Like, homeboy is going to come. He's Like, homeboy is going to come. He's coming. coming. coming. >> Yeah, he's coming. You better. >> Yeah, he's coming. You better. >> Yeah, he's coming. You better. >> Terrifying. >> Terrifying. >> Terrifying. >> I did not know that. >> I did not know that. >> I did not know that. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You better. >> You better. >> You better. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> You want to know what's even more >> You want to know what's even more >> You want to know what's even more terrifying? M terrifying? M terrifying? M >> do you know how so like if a lion or a >> do you know how so like if a lion or a >> do you know how so like if a lion or a tiger attacks you, it'll bite your neck tiger attacks you, it'll bite your neck tiger attacks you, it'll bite your neck and kill you. and kill you. and kill you. >> If a polar bear attacks you, it just >> If a polar bear attacks you, it just >> If a polar bear attacks you, it just starts eating you. starts eating you. starts eating you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> It doesn't kill you. It just starts >> It doesn't kill you. It just starts >> It doesn't kill you. It just starts eating you eating you eating you >> for like your stomach inside. >> for like your stomach inside. >> for like your stomach inside. >> It just start eating your leg and just >> It just start eating your leg and just >> It just start eating your leg and just start it'll just start eating you, dude. start it'll just start eating you, dude. start it'll just start eating you, dude. >> What is it? Hyenas that eat your ass >> What is it? Hyenas that eat your ass >> What is it? Hyenas that eat your ass first. first. first. >> Is that true? >> Is that true? >> Is that true? >> I think so. >> I think so. >> I think so. Eat all your like insides and everything Eat all your like insides and everything Eat all your like insides and everything like Oh god. like Oh god. like Oh god. >> I you know I I think hyenas are one of >> I you know I I think hyenas are one of >> I you know I I think hyenas are one of the more uh unassuming animals until you the more uh unassuming animals until you the more uh unassuming animals until you see one in person. Like when you see a see one in person. Like when you see a see one in person. Like when you see a hyena, they're They're big. hyena, they're They're big. hyena, they're They're big. >> It'll beat the crap out of when you see >> It'll beat the crap out of when you see >> It'll beat the crap out of when you see all the videos, but when you see you see all the videos, but when you see you see all the videos, but when you see you see them on TV, they look so frail. They them on TV, they look so frail. They them on TV, they look so frail. They look skinny and little, but when you see look skinny and little, but when you see look skinny and little, but when you see them in person, they are them in person, they are them in person, they are >> This is the Disney version. Yeah. >> This is the Disney version. Yeah. >> This is the Disney version. Yeah. >> Yeah. They're big. >> Yeah. They're big. >> Yeah. They're big. >> You ever seen those like uh like those >> You ever seen those like uh like those >> You ever seen those like uh like those African gang members that uh so you know African gang members that uh so you know African gang members that uh so you know how like we have gang members here with how like we have gang members here with how like we have gang members here with like pit bulls? like pit bulls? like pit bulls? >> They have like spike collars on them. >> They have like spike collars on them. >> They have like spike collars on them. >> They have hyenas. >> They have hyenas. >> They have hyenas. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they roam around with a hyena. Uh >> And they roam around with a hyena. Uh >> And they roam around with a hyena. Uh >> ultimate flesh. >> ultimate flesh. >> ultimate flesh. >> So Justin, you're correct. They do start >> So Justin, you're correct. They do start >> So Justin, you're correct. They do start with the butt first. Yeah. with the butt first. Yeah. with the butt first. Yeah. >> This >> This >> This >> what? >> what? >> what? >> Yeah. So, it says the skin around the >> Yeah. So, it says the skin around the >> Yeah. So, it says the skin around the anus and genitals is the thinnest and anus and genitals is the thinnest and anus and genitals is the thinnest and easiest area to tear through. easiest area to tear through. easiest area to tear through. >> That's nice. >> That's nice. >> That's nice. >> Oh, so nice. >> Oh, so nice. >> Oh, so nice. >> You know what sucks about that? If it >> You know what sucks about that? If it >> You know what sucks about that? 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Here comes the show. >> First question is from Karan Singh 19. >> First question is from Karan Singh 19. >> First question is from Karan Singh 19. How do you add cardio after 2 to three How do you add cardio after 2 to three How do you add cardio after 2 to three years of just focusing on strength years of just focusing on strength years of just focusing on strength training? training? training? >> You know, this is a good question, but I >> You know, this is a good question, but I >> You know, this is a good question, but I feel like we would want more context. feel like we would want more context. feel like we would want more context. Yeah. Uh to go motivation. Yeah. Uh to go motivation. Yeah. Uh to go motivation. >> Yeah. Exactly. Because there's uh >> Yeah. Exactly. Because there's uh >> Yeah. Exactly. Because there's uh there's definitely different ways I'm there's definitely different ways I'm there's definitely different ways I'm going to apply this. like is is this going to apply this. like is is this going to apply this. like is is this person looking for um you know in person looking for um you know in person looking for um you know in cardiovascular endurance? Uh do they cardiovascular endurance? Uh do they cardiovascular endurance? Uh do they want to just be able to uh get up and want to just be able to uh get up and want to just be able to uh get up and run? Do they uh have a sports? run? Do they uh have a sports? run? Do they uh have a sports? >> Is there or is this just for heart >> Is there or is this just for heart >> Is there or is this just for heart health? And so there's a lot of health? And so there's a lot of health? And so there's a lot of different reasons or ways I would go different reasons or ways I would go different reasons or ways I would go about this. Right. about this. Right. about this. Right. >> 100%. I would say if you're looking for >> 100%. I would say if you're looking for >> 100%. I would say if you're looking for athletic performance and stamina um and athletic performance and stamina um and athletic performance and stamina um and you're fit, you're already relatively you're fit, you're already relatively you're fit, you're already relatively fit, a couple uh sessions of HIT cardio, fit, a couple uh sessions of HIT cardio, fit, a couple uh sessions of HIT cardio, >> 12 minutes, uh would totally do that. >> 12 minutes, uh would totally do that. >> 12 minutes, uh would totally do that. Hit cardio is like where you go all out Hit cardio is like where you go all out Hit cardio is like where you go all out for 30 seconds and then you slow down for 30 seconds and then you slow down for 30 seconds and then you slow down till your heart rate comes down and then till your heart rate comes down and then till your heart rate comes down and then repeat it. That'll build that stamina repeat it. That'll build that stamina repeat it. That'll build that stamina endurance is very short. If you just endurance is very short. If you just endurance is very short. If you just want just overall health, you're not want just overall health, you're not want just overall health, you're not looking to beat yourself up, 30 minutes looking to beat yourself up, 30 minutes looking to beat yourself up, 30 minutes on an elliptical is totally totally on an elliptical is totally totally on an elliptical is totally totally fine, fine, fine, >> right? steady state. >> right? steady state. >> right? steady state. >> Great steady state. If you're looking >> Great steady state. If you're looking >> Great steady state. If you're looking for like to get good at something like for like to get good at something like for like to get good at something like running, well then you need to take some running, well then you need to take some running, well then you need to take some time to focus on your technique and time to focus on your technique and time to focus on your technique and skill and you'll probably have to take skill and you'll probably have to take skill and you'll probably have to take away some strength training away some strength training away some strength training >> to make room for something like that. >> to make room for something like that. >> to make room for something like that. But I'll say this, I'll add this. But I'll say this, I'll add this. But I'll say this, I'll add this. >> A good routine overall fitness routine >> A good routine overall fitness routine >> A good routine overall fitness routine will involve some cardiovascular will involve some cardiovascular will involve some cardiovascular training. So I know a lot of times we training. So I know a lot of times we training. So I know a lot of times we talk about, you know, be careful when talk about, you know, be careful when talk about, you know, be careful when you do too much or whatever, but if you do too much or whatever, but if you do too much or whatever, but if you're looking at like a perfect you're looking at like a perfect you're looking at like a perfect routine, you're going to have a routine, you're going to have a routine, you're going to have a cardiovascular component cardiovascular component cardiovascular component >> uh because it's good to to A generic >> uh because it's good to to A generic >> uh because it's good to to A generic answer based on what you said because it answer based on what you said because it answer based on what you said because it aligns with how I would approach this is aligns with how I would approach this is aligns with how I would approach this is I love a I love a I love a >> post-workout 12minut hit like on cardio >> post-workout 12minut hit like on cardio >> post-workout 12minut hit like on cardio some like just right after you workout some like just right after you workout some like just right after you workout 12 minutes I do the intense followed by 12 minutes I do the intense followed by 12 minutes I do the intense followed by walking or hill incline or elliptical walking or hill incline or elliptical walking or hill incline or elliptical for 30 minutes. for 30 minutes. for 30 minutes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so you kind of get the best of both >> And so you kind of get the best of both >> And so you kind of get the best of both worlds. You get a little bit of that and worlds. You get a little bit of that and worlds. You get a little bit of that and that's three times a week. that's three times a week. that's three times a week. >> Three times a week. uh 12 minutes of the >> Three times a week. uh 12 minutes of the >> Three times a week. uh 12 minutes of the intervals followed by a walking or hill intervals followed by a walking or hill intervals followed by a walking or hill hill or something like low steady state hill or something like low steady state hill or something like low steady state for 30 minutes for 30 minutes for 30 minutes >> and perfect. >> and perfect. >> and perfect. >> Yeah, I think well yeah I totally agree >> Yeah, I think well yeah I totally agree >> Yeah, I think well yeah I totally agree with you guys for that from a with you guys for that from a with you guys for that from a programming perspective but I think I programming perspective but I think I programming perspective but I think I think cardio is stupid to do in the gym. think cardio is stupid to do in the gym. think cardio is stupid to do in the gym. >> I really think it's like ridiculous. >> I really think it's like ridiculous. >> I really think it's like ridiculous. >> You're an athlete that's why. >> You're an athlete that's why. >> You're an athlete that's why. >> Yeah, but like go do something fun. >> Yeah, but like go do something fun. >> Yeah, but like go do something fun. good. You know, you this is your good. You know, you this is your good. You know, you this is your opportunity to uh go swim or like hike opportunity to uh go swim or like hike opportunity to uh go swim or like hike or, you know, like throw the frisbee or or, you know, like throw the frisbee or or, you know, like throw the frisbee or points. points. points. >> Well, no, you're right. Basketball. >> Well, no, you're right. Basketball. >> Well, no, you're right. Basketball. >> In a perfect world, you you it actually >> In a perfect world, you you it actually >> In a perfect world, you you it actually wouldn't be programmed in the gym. It wouldn't be programmed in the gym. It wouldn't be programmed in the gym. It wouldn't uh I say that because wouldn't uh I say that because wouldn't uh I say that because >> why be monotonous about it? >> why be monotonous about it? >> why be monotonous about it? >> Yeah. No, I say that because uh this is >> Yeah. No, I say that because uh this is >> Yeah. No, I say that because uh this is I think of the person who gets to the I think of the person who gets to the I think of the person who gets to the gym just three times a week and that's gym just three times a week and that's gym just three times a week and that's all their exercise. all their exercise. all their exercise. >> Yeah, they're maximizing. I know. >> Yeah, they're maximizing. I know. >> Yeah, they're maximizing. I know. >> So, it's like you're already there, so >> So, it's like you're already there, so >> So, it's like you're already there, so that's how I'd put it on. But if I had a that's how I'd put it on. But if I had a that's how I'd put it on. But if I had a client who was totally open to they love client who was totally open to they love client who was totally open to they love to swim or they like to pick up the ball to swim or they like to pick up the ball to swim or they like to pick up the ball and shoot or they love hikes like oh man and shoot or they love hikes like oh man and shoot or they love hikes like oh man I would totally encourage I would totally encourage I would totally encourage >> there's more there's more benefits than >> there's more there's more benefits than >> there's more there's more benefits than just fitness there. You're actually just fitness there. You're actually just fitness there. You're actually enjoying yourself outside. You're enjoying yourself outside. You're enjoying yourself outside. You're probably doing it with other people. I probably doing it with other people. I probably doing it with other people. I had this the other day. had this the other day. had this the other day. >> So I I agree with that Justin. >> So I I agree with that Justin. >> So I I agree with that Justin. >> It's like such a formula. I don't know. >> It's like such a formula. I don't know. >> It's like such a formula. I don't know. I get that's just me, you know. I I get I get that's just me, you know. I I get I get that's just me, you know. I I get like stuck in this whole like well we like stuck in this whole like well we like stuck in this whole like well we got to program and then we got to do got to program and then we got to do got to program and then we got to do this. this. this. >> Well no you're right. This is this is >> Well no you're right. This is this is >> Well no you're right. This is this is how I go about it. I don't do formal how I go about it. I don't do formal how I go about it. I don't do formal cardio right now. I'm swimming in my cardio right now. I'm swimming in my cardio right now. I'm swimming in my pool like crazy or Katrina and I go for pool like crazy or Katrina and I go for pool like crazy or Katrina and I go for hikes in our in our backyard. We'll go hikes in our in our backyard. We'll go hikes in our in our backyard. We'll go on a 30-minute walk. Like, so that's how on a 30-minute walk. Like, so that's how on a 30-minute walk. Like, so that's how I do it. Um, and I think if you can do I do it. Um, and I think if you can do I do it. Um, and I think if you can do it, if you can build it into your it, if you can build it into your it, if you can build it into your lifestyle where you're doing physical lifestyle where you're doing physical lifestyle where you're doing physical activities outside the gym, that is the activities outside the gym, that is the activities outside the gym, that is the best idea. best idea. best idea. >> I just did this the other day. Uh, I >> I just did this the other day. Uh, I >> I just did this the other day. Uh, I took my kids to the park to try to fly a took my kids to the park to try to fly a took my kids to the park to try to fly a kite. The wind wasn't cooperating, so I kite. The wind wasn't cooperating, so I kite. The wind wasn't cooperating, so I was running all over the place trying to was running all over the place trying to was running all over the place trying to get this kite to take off. And I'm get this kite to take off. And I'm get this kite to take off. And I'm getting winded. I'm running. I'm doing getting winded. I'm running. I'm doing getting winded. I'm running. I'm doing it and I'm I'm like, "Oh, this is it and I'm I'm like, "Oh, this is it and I'm I'm like, "Oh, this is great." Like, I'm having fun with the great." Like, I'm having fun with the great." Like, I'm having fun with the kids. They're laughing. kids. They're laughing. kids. They're laughing. >> I was getting frustrated cuz it wouldn't >> I was getting frustrated cuz it wouldn't >> I was getting frustrated cuz it wouldn't go up, but it's like this is way better go up, but it's like this is way better go up, but it's like this is way better than getting on, you know? I was There than getting on, you know? I was There than getting on, you know? I was There was another dad there, by the way, that was another dad there, by the way, that was another dad there, by the way, that was also I didn't feel so bad cuz I'm was also I didn't feel so bad cuz I'm was also I didn't feel so bad cuz I'm like, "Dude, am I the only guy?" Then like, "Dude, am I the only guy?" Then like, "Dude, am I the only guy?" Then there was a dad with a kai who couldn't there was a dad with a kai who couldn't there was a dad with a kai who couldn't make it happen either. So, I'm like, make it happen either. So, I'm like, make it happen either. So, I'm like, "All right, it's not just me." "All right, it's not just me." "All right, it's not just me." >> Next question is from Maine Fit Chick. >> Next question is from Maine Fit Chick. >> Next question is from Maine Fit Chick. If you undereat and therefore don't get If you undereat and therefore don't get If you undereat and therefore don't get enough protein and also lift heavy and enough protein and also lift heavy and enough protein and also lift heavy and get stronger in your lifts, what is get stronger in your lifts, what is get stronger in your lifts, what is actually happening in your body? Are you actually happening in your body? Are you actually happening in your body? Are you building any muscle or is something else building any muscle or is something else building any muscle or is something else going on? going on? going on? >> First off, if you're getting stronger, >> First off, if you're getting stronger, >> First off, if you're getting stronger, okay, so let's address that first. okay, so let's address that first. okay, so let's address that first. >> Very good sign. >> Very good sign. >> Very good sign. >> If you're getting stronger, then you're >> If you're getting stronger, then you're >> If you're getting stronger, then you're probably not losing muscle. Um, and if probably not losing muscle. Um, and if probably not losing muscle. Um, and if you consistently get stronger, it it you consistently get stronger, it it you consistently get stronger, it it typically correlates for the most part, typically correlates for the most part, typically correlates for the most part, almost always, with more muscle. Now, if almost always, with more muscle. Now, if almost always, with more muscle. Now, if you're just lifting and you're not you're just lifting and you're not you're just lifting and you're not getting stronger, but you're pushing getting stronger, but you're pushing getting stronger, but you're pushing yourself and you're undereating, you'll yourself and you're undereating, you'll yourself and you're undereating, you'll still lose muscle. And if you do it long still lose muscle. And if you do it long still lose muscle. And if you do it long enough, you can even have um bone loss. enough, you can even have um bone loss. enough, you can even have um bone loss. You can even have osteopenia. I've seen You can even have osteopenia. I've seen You can even have osteopenia. I've seen this in fitness uh women. Yes. Who this in fitness uh women. Yes. Who this in fitness uh women. Yes. Who strength train consistently, good strength train consistently, good strength train consistently, good program, they just undereat all the program, they just undereat all the program, they just undereat all the time, get a DEXA scan, osteopenia. So, time, get a DEXA scan, osteopenia. So, time, get a DEXA scan, osteopenia. So, uh you're you're you're not doing much uh you're you're you're not doing much uh you're you're you're not doing much if that's the case. But if you're if that's the case. But if you're if that's the case. But if you're getting stronger, that's a very very getting stronger, that's a very very getting stronger, that's a very very good sign. good sign. good sign. >> Yeah. No, if you're getting stronger, >> Yeah. No, if you're getting stronger, >> Yeah. No, if you're getting stronger, that is a really good sign. But to your that is a really good sign. But to your that is a really good sign. But to your point, um, you absolutely could see point, um, you absolutely could see point, um, you absolutely could see signs like this and still see like bone signs like this and still see like bone signs like this and still see like bone density go down because you are density go down because you are density go down because you are consistently undereating calories and consistently undereating calories and consistently undereating calories and protein. Totally. And you've and and protein. Totally. And you've and and protein. Totally. And you've and and what what this points to, by the way, what what this points to, by the way, what what this points to, by the way, and we talk about this uh the central and we talk about this uh the central and we talk about this uh the central nervous system adaptation. So, there's a nervous system adaptation. So, there's a nervous system adaptation. So, there's a form there's a part of exercise and form there's a part of exercise and form there's a part of exercise and lifting weights that is skill. And we lifting weights that is skill. And we lifting weights that is skill. And we talk about how it's a skill. talk about how it's a skill. talk about how it's a skill. >> You get better at lifting. And so even >> You get better at lifting. And so even >> You get better at lifting. And so even though you may not be building a bunch though you may not be building a bunch though you may not be building a bunch of muscle, uh you're getting better at of muscle, uh you're getting better at of muscle, uh you're getting better at lifting technique-wise, central nervous lifting technique-wise, central nervous lifting technique-wise, central nervous system wise, being able to recruit more, system wise, being able to recruit more, system wise, being able to recruit more, like that can all happen in a calorie like that can all happen in a calorie like that can all happen in a calorie deficit. And so that could be what's deficit. And so that could be what's deficit. And so that could be what's going on here is like you are getting going on here is like you are getting going on here is like you are getting better at lifting. Therefore, you're better at lifting. Therefore, you're better at lifting. Therefore, you're seeing strength go up, but you are seeing strength go up, but you are seeing strength go up, but you are consistently undereating on any protein. consistently undereating on any protein. consistently undereating on any protein. You are not building any muscle and you You are not building any muscle and you You are not building any muscle and you are potentially even like losing bone are potentially even like losing bone are potentially even like losing bone density. But if you're consistently density. But if you're consistently density. But if you're consistently getting stronger over time and you getting stronger over time and you getting stronger over time and you consist eventually muscle builds through consist eventually muscle builds through consist eventually muscle builds through that process. that process. that process. >> Next question is from the gut check. >> Next question is from the gut check. >> Next question is from the gut check. What do you believe the physical What do you believe the physical What do you believe the physical standards or requirement should be for standards or requirement should be for standards or requirement should be for your average man and woman in their late your average man and woman in their late your average man and woman in their late 30s to early 40s? 30s to early 40s? 30s to early 40s? >> Oh, that's a good that's a really good >> Oh, that's a good that's a really good >> Oh, that's a good that's a really good question. question. question. >> Yeah, I picked this because I figured it >> Yeah, I picked this because I figured it >> Yeah, I picked this because I figured it would be just a great discussion because would be just a great discussion because would be just a great discussion because I don't think we have a a set clear what I don't think we have a a set clear what I don't think we have a a set clear what I think it what you should be able to I think it what you should be able to I think it what you should be able to do. Um, I think I think I I'll say this do. Um, I think I think I I'll say this do. Um, I think I think I I'll say this and I I say this now because I see this and I I say this now because I see this and I I say this now because I see this in myself because I work out all the in myself because I work out all the in myself because I work out all the time and I I eat, you know, pretty time and I I eat, you know, pretty time and I I eat, you know, pretty healthy all the time. But I've generally healthy all the time. But I've generally healthy all the time. But I've generally lost the skill of running because I lost the skill of running because I lost the skill of running because I never run. And I know this because then never run. And I know this because then never run. And I know this because then I go run and I feel like I don't know I go run and I feel like I don't know I go run and I feel like I don't know what I'm doing. And so I think on there what I'm doing. And so I think on there what I'm doing. And so I think on there is the the ability to just run, the is the the ability to just run, the is the the ability to just run, the ability to take off and run, the ability ability to take off and run, the ability ability to take off and run, the ability to run without feeling pain. It's a to run without feeling pain. It's a to run without feeling pain. It's a skill that you'll lose over time. And um skill that you'll lose over time. And um skill that you'll lose over time. And um I'm experiencing that right now. And so I'm experiencing that right now. And so I'm experiencing that right now. And so I think being able to run is important. I think being able to run is important. I think being able to run is important. I think being able to squat is I think being able to squat is I think being able to squat is important. Be able to lift something important. Be able to lift something important. Be able to lift something overhead, being able to hip hinge is overhead, being able to hip hinge is overhead, being able to hip hinge is important. Um I think being able to uh important. Um I think being able to uh important. Um I think being able to uh press and row with good technique is press and row with good technique is press and row with good technique is important. Now, how strong should you important. Now, how strong should you important. Now, how strong should you be? That's a much more nuanced uh be? That's a much more nuanced uh be? That's a much more nuanced uh question, but I think the ability to do question, but I think the ability to do question, but I think the ability to do those things is probably a good place to those things is probably a good place to those things is probably a good place to start, I would say. start, I would say. start, I would say. >> Yeah. I'm going to address your run >> Yeah. I'm going to address your run >> Yeah. I'm going to address your run thing because I think that's an area thing because I think that's an area thing because I think that's an area that we we could all admit, especially that we we could all admit, especially that we we could all admit, especially you and I would admit that we could be you and I would admit that we could be you and I would admit that we could be better at that. I would I would be below better at that. I would I would be below better at that. I would I would be below my own standards on what I would want my own standards on what I would want my own standards on what I would want somebody who was who was trying to somebody who was who was trying to somebody who was who was trying to achieve this, right? And I've thought achieve this, right? And I've thought achieve this, right? And I've thought about this a lot. I think being in your about this a lot. I think being in your about this a lot. I think being in your 30s and 40s and being able to run a sub 30s and 40s and being able to run a sub 30s and 40s and being able to run a sub eight mile good is a good standard. eight mile good is a good standard. eight mile good is a good standard. >> Sub eight sub eight and with good form >> Sub eight sub eight and with good form >> Sub eight sub eight and with good form and technique. So, it's not like I could and technique. So, it's not like I could and technique. So, it's not like I could probably go do it right now and look probably go do it right now and look probably go do it right now and look really like I'm dying and dead and like really like I'm dying and dead and like really like I'm dying and dead and like not like that wouldn't be good. not like that wouldn't be good. not like that wouldn't be good. >> Like the lizard that runs on water like >> Like the lizard that runs on water like >> Like the lizard that runs on water like >> to be able to run a sub 8 minute mile I >> to be able to run a sub 8 minute mile I >> to be able to run a sub 8 minute mile I think is a pretty and and and I think think is a pretty and and and I think think is a pretty and and and I think and why I say that because I know it's and why I say that because I know it's and why I say that because I know it's like a generic number and that's only 8 like a generic number and that's only 8 like a generic number and that's only 8 minutes of cardiovascular but being able minutes of cardiovascular but being able minutes of cardiovascular but being able to run a mile in that amount of time you to run a mile in that amount of time you to run a mile in that amount of time you could you could probably run two. could you could probably run two. could you could probably run two. >> It's a decent test. >> It's a decent test. >> It's a decent test. >> Yeah, it's and it's and it's a decent >> Yeah, it's and it's and it's a decent >> Yeah, it's and it's and it's a decent test. It's not you. It doesn't impede test. It's not you. It doesn't impede test. It's not you. It doesn't impede running one mile like that won't impede running one mile like that won't impede running one mile like that won't impede in your muscle strength, all the things in your muscle strength, all the things in your muscle strength, all the things you're doing. And I think if you're you're doing. And I think if you're you're doing. And I think if you're capable of that and then to your point, capable of that and then to your point, capable of that and then to your point, I can squat, deadlift, overhel primal I can squat, deadlift, overhel primal I can squat, deadlift, overhel primal patterns like you know you're strong in patterns like you know you're strong in patterns like you know you're strong in all those like hip hinging and squatting all those like hip hinging and squatting all those like hip hinging and squatting and picking things up off the ground and and picking things up off the ground and and picking things up off the ground and uh getting up off the ground especially uh getting up off the ground especially uh getting up off the ground especially too like uh that was a skill that too like uh that was a skill that too like uh that was a skill that >> it's interesting that uh you start you >> it's interesting that uh you start you >> it's interesting that uh you start you know putting clients down on the ground know putting clients down on the ground know putting clients down on the ground and okay now get up and like you start and okay now get up and like you start and okay now get up and like you start figuring out how they can organize their figuring out how they can organize their figuring out how they can organize their body to make that happen. And um and I body to make that happen. And um and I body to make that happen. And um and I think just like definitely lifting think just like definitely lifting think just like definitely lifting things over your head is is a skill things over your head is is a skill things over your head is is a skill people lose a lot as well. And so you people lose a lot as well. And so you people lose a lot as well. And so you have to intentionally do that. have to intentionally do that. have to intentionally do that. >> Uh otherwise you get into problems with >> Uh otherwise you get into problems with >> Uh otherwise you get into problems with that. that. that. >> Uh and then running and then even I mean >> Uh and then running and then even I mean >> Uh and then running and then even I mean I would throw jumping in there. But I would throw jumping in there. But I would throw jumping in there. But that's me because you know my athletic that's me because you know my athletic that's me because you know my athletic background. I think like just moving background. I think like just moving background. I think like just moving fast with acceleration decelerating fast with acceleration decelerating fast with acceleration decelerating >> you know prevents a lot of problems in >> you know prevents a lot of problems in >> you know prevents a lot of problems in and injury potentially. Uh but also too and injury potentially. Uh but also too and injury potentially. Uh but also too like it's just something that you're like it's just something that you're like it's just something that you're gonna have to react um quickly. Yeah. Uh gonna have to react um quickly. Yeah. Uh gonna have to react um quickly. Yeah. Uh at some point, you know, outside you at some point, you know, outside you at some point, you know, outside you might slip on something or, you know, might slip on something or, you know, might slip on something or, you know, something you might throw off balance something you might throw off balance something you might throw off balance >> or your kid runs out into the street. >> or your kid runs out into the street. >> or your kid runs out into the street. You got to grab them or You got to grab them or You got to grab them or >> something. You got to react and you got >> something. You got to react and you got >> something. You got to react and you got to still have that ability. No, I love to still have that ability. No, I love to still have that ability. No, I love that you brought up get up off the floor that you brought up get up off the floor that you brought up get up off the floor because that sounds so silly and because that sounds so silly and because that sounds so silly and ridiculous, but you'd be surprised how ridiculous, but you'd be surprised how ridiculous, but you'd be surprised how many people lose with no hands, right? many people lose with no hands, right? many people lose with no hands, right? So, literally get up off the ground So, literally get up off the ground So, literally get up off the ground without using your hands without using your hands without using your hands >> is a skill that a lot of people by the >> is a skill that a lot of people by the >> is a skill that a lot of people by the time they're in their 40s lose the time they're in their 40s lose the time they're in their 40s lose the ability to do that. So, I think you ability to do that. So, I think you ability to do that. So, I think you should do that. I think a simple, again, should do that. I think a simple, again, should do that. I think a simple, again, I'll put like numbers to what you guys I'll put like numbers to what you guys I'll put like numbers to what you guys are saying. Like, I think being able to are saying. Like, I think being able to are saying. Like, I think being able to do 10 jump boxes where you jump up and do 10 jump boxes where you jump up and do 10 jump boxes where you jump up and jump off the box without your knees jump off the box without your knees jump off the box without your knees exploding, I think is probably a really exploding, I think is probably a really exploding, I think is probably a really good uh ability to do that. I think the good uh ability to do that. I think the good uh ability to do that. I think the the uh 8minute mile will cover your the uh 8minute mile will cover your the uh 8minute mile will cover your ability to take off and and run and do ability to take off and and run and do ability to take off and and run and do something like that. If you can run a something like that. If you can run a something like that. If you can run a sub 8 minute mile, um, you're probably sub 8 minute mile, um, you're probably sub 8 minute mile, um, you're probably pretty reactive. You That's not like a pretty reactive. You That's not like a pretty reactive. You That's not like a all out hard sprint, but that's that's all out hard sprint, but that's that's all out hard sprint, but that's that's fast. You know, it's fast enough to be fast. You know, it's fast enough to be fast. You know, it's fast enough to be healthy to go take off after your kid or healthy to go take off after your kid or healthy to go take off after your kid or do something like that. do something like that. do something like that. >> I'll add throwing on onto this. I uh >> I'll add throwing on onto this. I uh >> I'll add throwing on onto this. I uh because uh it's it is a a basic human because uh it's it is a a basic human because uh it's it is a a basic human movement and you also lose that skill. movement and you also lose that skill. movement and you also lose that skill. Um I mean, when I was a kid, I could Um I mean, when I was a kid, I could Um I mean, when I was a kid, I could throw hard without an issue. If I throw throw hard without an issue. If I throw throw hard without an issue. If I throw hard now, uh I'm afraid I'm going to hard now, uh I'm afraid I'm going to hard now, uh I'm afraid I'm going to blow something out. blow something out. blow something out. >> Yeah. I'm going to hurt my shoulder. And >> Yeah. I'm going to hurt my shoulder. And >> Yeah. I'm going to hurt my shoulder. And it is a skill that you can lose. I mean, it is a skill that you can lose. I mean, it is a skill that you can lose. I mean, I guess in life you don't necessarily I guess in life you don't necessarily I guess in life you don't necessarily need it like we did, you know, a need it like we did, you know, a need it like we did, you know, a thousand years ago, but the ability to thousand years ago, but the ability to thousand years ago, but the ability to throw without hurting yourself has lots throw without hurting yourself has lots throw without hurting yourself has lots of carryover to shoulder health um uh of carryover to shoulder health um uh of carryover to shoulder health um uh and wrist health and stuff like that. and wrist health and stuff like that. and wrist health and stuff like that. So, So, So, >> next question is from Lulu Williams 15. >> next question is from Lulu Williams 15. >> next question is from Lulu Williams 15. Should I be doing warm-up sets for every Should I be doing warm-up sets for every Should I be doing warm-up sets for every exercise and or does it depend on the exercise and or does it depend on the exercise and or does it depend on the level of training or the load or level of training or the load or level of training or the load or intensity for each specific exercise? intensity for each specific exercise? intensity for each specific exercise? I've worked with trainers and used I've worked with trainers and used I've worked with trainers and used online workouts who haven't programmed online workouts who haven't programmed online workouts who haven't programmed them, so not sure what the deal is. a them, so not sure what the deal is. a them, so not sure what the deal is. a warm-up should the the goal of a warm-up should the the goal of a warm-up should the the goal of a warm-up. The bar of the of the bottom warm-up. The bar of the of the bottom warm-up. The bar of the of the bottom bar is to prevent injury, but if you go bar is to prevent injury, but if you go bar is to prevent injury, but if you go up a level higher, a warm-up should up a level higher, a warm-up should up a level higher, a warm-up should allow you to perform the exercise you're allow you to perform the exercise you're allow you to perform the exercise you're going to do uh smooth, going to do uh smooth, going to do uh smooth, >> good mobility, connection, strength, >> good mobility, connection, strength, >> good mobility, connection, strength, like get into it. like get into it. like get into it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If I'm doing similar exercises >> If I'm doing similar exercises >> If I'm doing similar exercises uh back to back, I I don't need to keep uh back to back, I I don't need to keep uh back to back, I I don't need to keep warming up. In other words, if I'm going warming up. In other words, if I'm going warming up. In other words, if I'm going to work out my legs and my first to work out my legs and my first to work out my legs and my first exercise is squats, I'm going to need to exercise is squats, I'm going to need to exercise is squats, I'm going to need to do some priming to get myself set up to do some priming to get myself set up to do some priming to get myself set up to be able to squat properly. But after be able to squat properly. But after be able to squat properly. But after that, I can go into lunges and I can go that, I can go into lunges and I can go that, I can go into lunges and I can go into Bulgarians without having to do a into Bulgarians without having to do a into Bulgarians without having to do a warm-up each time. But if I'm doing warm-up each time. But if I'm doing warm-up each time. But if I'm doing totally different exercises, like if I'm totally different exercises, like if I'm totally different exercises, like if I'm doing squats and then the next exercise, doing squats and then the next exercise, doing squats and then the next exercise, uh let's say is an overhead press, I may uh let's say is an overhead press, I may uh let's say is an overhead press, I may need to do some priming uh for for that need to do some priming uh for for that need to do some priming uh for for that movement pattern. I would say um the movement pattern. I would say um the movement pattern. I would say um the level of priming and warm up that you level of priming and warm up that you level of priming and warm up that you need to do depends on the individual. need to do depends on the individual. need to do depends on the individual. Really skilled lifters, people who um Really skilled lifters, people who um Really skilled lifters, people who um have good technique and form, have been have good technique and form, have been have good technique and form, have been working out a while, often times can working out a while, often times can working out a while, often times can warm up by doing a set or two of the warm up by doing a set or two of the warm up by doing a set or two of the exercise they're about to do. exercise they're about to do. exercise they're about to do. >> Yeah. Because they know >> Yeah. Because they know >> Yeah. Because they know >> micro adjustments as >> micro adjustments as >> micro adjustments as >> they know how to adjust. They know what >> they know how to adjust. They know what >> they know how to adjust. They know what to squeeze and how to tighten and get to squeeze and how to tighten and get to squeeze and how to tighten and get into position. Uh but uh oftentimes with into position. Uh but uh oftentimes with into position. Uh but uh oftentimes with people who don't have a lot of people who don't have a lot of people who don't have a lot of experience have to do different priming experience have to do different priming experience have to do different priming exercises because you know they don't exercises because you know they don't exercises because you know they don't know how to pull their shoulders back on know how to pull their shoulders back on know how to pull their shoulders back on the bench press properly. So we got to the bench press properly. So we got to the bench press properly. So we got to do something that does that first or do something that does that first or do something that does that first or they don't know how to get the ankle they don't know how to get the ankle they don't know how to get the ankle mobility right uh on a squat with the mobility right uh on a squat with the mobility right uh on a squat with the warm-up with just a squat. So I have to warm-up with just a squat. So I have to warm-up with just a squat. So I have to do other exercises. So a lot of this do other exercises. So a lot of this do other exercises. So a lot of this depend this is why we created maps depend this is why we created maps depend this is why we created maps prime. So maps prime, we have a program prime. So maps prime, we have a program prime. So maps prime, we have a program that you go in, you take a few tests, that you go in, you take a few tests, that you go in, you take a few tests, and then it points based off of off of and then it points based off of off of and then it points based off of off of how you do the test. It points you in how you do the test. It points you in how you do the test. It points you in directions that individualize what your directions that individualize what your directions that individualize what your priming looks like. So once you have priming looks like. So once you have priming looks like. So once you have that, now you've got your individual that, now you've got your individual that, now you've got your individual warm-up for your workouts. Um, and it's warm-up for your workouts. Um, and it's warm-up for your workouts. Um, and it's the best online way of doing it short of the best online way of doing it short of the best online way of doing it short of actually working with a trainer in front actually working with a trainer in front actually working with a trainer in front of you who can see these things. of you who can see these things. of you who can see these things. >> Warming up is very individualized. Uh, >> Warming up is very individualized. Uh, >> Warming up is very individualized. Uh, this answer can vary for every single this answer can vary for every single this answer can vary for every single person to I'm glad you brought up Prime person to I'm glad you brought up Prime person to I'm glad you brought up Prime because because because >> uh there are certain exercises that I do >> uh there are certain exercises that I do >> uh there are certain exercises that I do that I do no warm-up. Yeah, I don't need that I do no warm-up. Yeah, I don't need that I do no warm-up. Yeah, I don't need one. I don't need to go to go do a one. I don't need to go to go do a one. I don't need to go to go do a barbell row. I don't need a warmup. Go barbell row. I don't need a warmup. Go barbell row. I don't need a warmup. Go right into a barbell row. No problem. To right into a barbell row. No problem. To right into a barbell row. No problem. To get into a barbell back squat, I get into a barbell back squat, I get into a barbell back squat, I absolutely have to warm up, prime, and absolutely have to warm up, prime, and absolutely have to warm up, prime, and and I have to spend I have to spend and I have to spend I have to spend and I have to spend I have to spend probably more extended time than maybe probably more extended time than maybe probably more extended time than maybe Justin has to to get into a barbell uh Justin has to to get into a barbell uh Justin has to to get into a barbell uh back squat. Uh if I do uh a seated row, back squat. Uh if I do uh a seated row, back squat. Uh if I do uh a seated row, a lat pull down, don't eat it. If I do a a lat pull down, don't eat it. If I do a a lat pull down, don't eat it. If I do a dumbbell chest press, I need to. So dumbbell chest press, I need to. So dumbbell chest press, I need to. So there's there's certain movements um and there's there's certain movements um and there's there's certain movements um and that prime is designed to show you we that prime is designed to show you we that prime is designed to show you we broke we try to simplify it for the broke we try to simplify it for the broke we try to simplify it for the average person to just break the body up average person to just break the body up average person to just break the body up in three zones. And if you fail that in three zones. And if you fail that in three zones. And if you fail that zone, any movements that you do within zone, any movements that you do within zone, any movements that you do within that zone, you should will help by that zone, you should will help by that zone, you should will help by priming before you do that. If you don't priming before you do that. If you don't priming before you do that. If you don't fail that zone and you actually pass it fail that zone and you actually pass it fail that zone and you actually pass it really good, you could probably get away really good, you could probably get away really good, you could probably get away with doing movements in that zone and with doing movements in that zone and with doing movements in that zone and not have to prime and and feel okay. But not have to prime and and feel okay. But not have to prime and and feel okay. But this is very in in fact I remember uh at this is very in in fact I remember uh at this is very in in fact I remember uh at one point as a trainer like you using one point as a trainer like you using one point as a trainer like you using the uh like the saying that you know the uh like the saying that you know the uh like the saying that you know learn to stretch with purpose. uh for learn to stretch with purpose. uh for learn to stretch with purpose. uh for the first half of my training career um the first half of my training career um the first half of my training career um we you know we did these you know foam we you know we did these you know foam we you know we did these you know foam roll and random you know stretches that roll and random you know stretches that roll and random you know stretches that everybody just did that were generic you everybody just did that were generic you everybody just did that were generic you know to warm them up before it was like know to warm them up before it was like know to warm them up before it was like general general general >> warm yeah that's the problem that's been >> warm yeah that's the problem that's been >> warm yeah that's the problem that's been that it's so general forever and it's that it's so general forever and it's that it's so general forever and it's yeah hasn't been real individualized and yeah hasn't been real individualized and yeah hasn't been real individualized and specific to your joint needs specific to your joint needs specific to your joint needs >> yeah and that's not necessarily bad for >> yeah and that's not necessarily bad for >> yeah and that's not necessarily bad for you yeah it's better than nothing but you yeah it's better than nothing but you yeah it's better than nothing but it's it's close to a waste of time so it's it's close to a waste of time so it's it's close to a waste of time so it's it would be far better to it's it would be far better to it's it would be far better to understand understand understand >> blood pumping I suppose your movement >> blood pumping I suppose your movement >> blood pumping I suppose your movement patterns, what you need to work on, and patterns, what you need to work on, and patterns, what you need to work on, and really focus uh on those things. In really focus uh on those things. In really focus uh on those things. In fact, when I know my ankles and hips are fact, when I know my ankles and hips are fact, when I know my ankles and hips are such issues that maybe even when I'm not such issues that maybe even when I'm not such issues that maybe even when I'm not squatting, I still might do ankle and squatting, I still might do ankle and squatting, I still might do ankle and hip stuff to continue to improve the the hip stuff to continue to improve the the hip stuff to continue to improve the the mobility, stability, and strength in mobility, stability, and strength in mobility, stability, and strength in those in those muscles and joints. And those in those muscles and joints. And those in those muscles and joints. And so, it really is the individual and and so, it really is the individual and and so, it really is the individual and and where they need the work. where they need the work. where they need the work. >> 100%. Like if you're listening and you >> 100%. Like if you're listening and you >> 100%. Like if you're listening and you want to minimize injury, maximize want to minimize injury, maximize want to minimize injury, maximize connection to the exercises, you don't connection to the exercises, you don't connection to the exercises, you don't have a trainer in front of you, uh, have a trainer in front of you, uh, have a trainer in front of you, uh, that's going to be able to do this for that's going to be able to do this for that's going to be able to do this for you, um, MAPS Prime is incredibly val. you, um, MAPS Prime is incredibly val. you, um, MAPS Prime is incredibly val. It's not a workout program. It sets you It's not a workout program. It sets you It's not a workout program. It sets you up for your workout program. Um, and I up for your workout program. Um, and I up for your workout program. Um, and I believe it's, uh, the summer sale believe it's, uh, the summer sale believe it's, uh, the summer sale applies to MAPS Prime, so it's 40% off. applies to MAPS Prime, so it's 40% off. applies to MAPS Prime, so it's 40% off. So, if you go to So, if you go to So, if you go to mapsfitnessproducts.com, use the code mapsfitnessproducts.com, use the code mapsfitnessproducts.com, use the code summer40, you can get Maps Prime at 40% summer40, you can get Maps Prime at 40% summer40, you can get Maps Prime at 40% off. And then literally just take the off. And then literally just take the off. And then literally just take the test and it'll point you uh in the right test and it'll point you uh in the right test and it'll point you uh in the right direction. Look, if you like the show, direction. Look, if you like the show, direction. Look, if you like the show, you can find us also on Instagram. It's you can find us also on Instagram. It's you can find us also on Instagram. It's Mindput Media. We'll see you there. All Mindput Media. We'll see you there. All Mindput Media. We'll see you there. All right, I know you like that episode. If right, I know you like that episode. If right, I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. Walking. you did, check this one out. Walking. you did, check this one out. Walking. It's one of the best things you can do It's one of the best things you can do It's one of the best things you can do for your health, bar none. But there's a for your health, bar none. But there's a for your health, bar none. But there's a better way to approach it. Yes, you can better way to approach it. Yes, you can better way to approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but if you follow the right just walk, but if you follow the right just walk, but if you follow the right protocol, it's far more effective. Let's protocol, it's far more effective. Let's protocol, it's far more effective. Let's talk about talk about talk about >> walking. I can't wait to hear a walking >> walking. I can't wait to hear a walking >> walking. I can't wait to hear a walking protocol. protocol. protocol. >> Well, there is Well, there is a >> Well, there is Well, there is a >> Well, there is Well, there is a protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the first thing, right? Cuz just first off, first thing, right? Cuz just first off, first thing, right? Cuz just first off, uh let me start with this. One of the uh let me start with this. One of the uh let me start with this. One of the reasons why walking um is such a great reasons why walking um is such a great reasons why walking um is such a great form of just activity is because it's form of just activity is because it's form of just activity is because it's low risk of injury. Now,