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You want to just move the bass, you can You want to just move the bass, you can just pick it up. just pick it up. just pick it up. You can also pick the whole thing up if You can also pick the whole thing up if You can also pick the whole thing up if you want to. you want to. you want to. It's the smallest micro change I've ever It's the smallest micro change I've ever It's the smallest micro change I've ever seen in my life. That was amazing. Okay, seen in my life. That was amazing. Okay, seen in my life. That was amazing. Okay, ready? ready? ready? >> Oh, wait. Wait. So, we're rolling. >> Oh, wait. Wait. So, we're rolling. >> Oh, wait. Wait. So, we're rolling. >> Yeah, rolling. Okay. Three, two, one. >> Yeah, rolling. Okay. Three, two, one. >> Yeah, rolling. Okay. Three, two, one. [bell] >> Feels actually really good. >> Feels actually really good. >> I feel like my bowl is a little smaller >> I feel like my bowl is a little smaller >> I feel like my bowl is a little smaller than yours. That's always That's always than yours. That's always That's always than yours. That's always That's always been the case. [laughter] been the case. [laughter] been the case. [laughter] You want to kick it off? You want to kick it off? You want to kick it off? >> Hello friends and family, colleagues. >> Hello friends and family, colleagues. >> Hello friends and family, colleagues. Uh, Uh, Uh, >> that was amazing. >> that was amazing. >> that was amazing. >> Very prominent ejaculation. >> Very prominent ejaculation. >> Very prominent ejaculation. >> Welcome to Random Show. >> Welcome to Random Show. >> Welcome to Random Show. >> Welcome [snorts] folks to another >> Welcome [snorts] folks to another >> Welcome [snorts] folks to another episode of the random show. episode of the random show. episode of the random show. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Couch audition edition. >> Couch audition edition. >> Couch audition edition. >> That's right. ADU back of my place >> That's right. ADU back of my place >> That's right. ADU back of my place edition. edition. edition. >> Why do we have these fancy balls? >> Why do we have these fancy balls? >> Why do we have these fancy balls? >> So this is for people not looking. These >> So this is for people not looking. These >> So this is for people not looking. These are meditation balls. Yeah. are meditation balls. Yeah. are meditation balls. Yeah. >> Got a bunch of script. Presumably that's >> Got a bunch of script. Presumably that's >> Got a bunch of script. Presumably that's Tibetan or Sanskrit or something. Tibetan or Sanskrit or something. Tibetan or Sanskrit or something. >> And you have a little corner, but that's >> And you have a little corner, but that's >> And you have a little corner, but that's not the bad corner. That's the Zen not the bad corner. That's the Zen not the bad corner. That's the Zen corner. corner. corner. >> Yeah, that's the Zen corner. Would you >> Yeah, that's the Zen corner. Would you >> Yeah, that's the Zen corner. Would you say bad corner? say bad corner? say bad corner? >> Yeah. You know, you put kids in the bad >> Yeah. You know, you put kids in the bad >> Yeah. You know, you put kids in the bad corner. corner. corner. >> You like stand Did you have to do that >> You like stand Did you have to do that >> You like stand Did you have to do that as a kid? as a kid? as a kid? >> In school, I got sent to like the bad >> In school, I got sent to like the bad >> In school, I got sent to like the bad table all the time. table all the time. table all the time. >> Oh, there was a table. >> Oh, there was a table. >> Oh, there was a table. >> Oh, yeah. And then the teacher in >> Oh, yeah. And then the teacher in >> Oh, yeah. And then the teacher in kindergarten sent me to the bad table kindergarten sent me to the bad table kindergarten sent me to the bad table with a bunch of other kids who were with a bunch of other kids who were with a bunch of other kids who were really bad and then forgot that she had really bad and then forgot that she had really bad and then forgot that she had decided it was the bad table and just decided it was the bad table and just decided it was the bad table and just left us at the bad table for like the left us at the bad table for like the left us at the bad table for like the entire year. And entire year. And entire year. And >> so she's explain a lot of psychological >> so she's explain a lot of psychological >> so she's explain a lot of psychological issues issues issues >> that I've carried [laughter] with me. >> that I've carried [laughter] with me. >> that I've carried [laughter] with me. >> This is not the bad table. This is the >> This is not the bad table. This is the >> This is not the bad table. This is the This is the meditation area. And I have This is the meditation area. And I have This is the meditation area. And I have bowls over here that I just use. I I bowls over here that I just use. I I bowls over here that I just use. I I just like the sound of a good I mean, just like the sound of a good I mean, just like the sound of a good I mean, you heard that. Hopefully, it came you heard that. Hopefully, it came you heard that. Hopefully, it came through and didn't distort the mic. But through and didn't distort the mic. But through and didn't distort the mic. But a well-rung bowl a well-rung bowl a well-rung bowl is just it kind of sets it sets the tone is just it kind of sets it sets the tone is just it kind of sets it sets the tone for the beginning of the meditation, for the beginning of the meditation, for the beginning of the meditation, then also at the very end. It's also then also at the very end. It's also then also at the very end. It's also just perfect for a podcast in Southern just perfect for a podcast in Southern just perfect for a podcast in Southern California. California. California. >> Yeah, exactly. Nice to be in person. >> Yeah, exactly. Nice to be in person. >> Yeah, exactly. Nice to be in person. plays well in the the whole Yeah. SoCal plays well in the the whole Yeah. SoCal plays well in the the whole Yeah. SoCal environment. There's bowls per capita environment. There's bowls per capita environment. There's bowls per capita out here and crystal shops are very out here and crystal shops are very out here and crystal shops are very high. high. high. >> High density. High density, man. >> High density. High density, man. >> High density. High density, man. >> Yeah. Another beautiful day in SoCal. >> Yeah. Another beautiful day in SoCal. >> Yeah. Another beautiful day in SoCal. >> Beautiful day. >> Beautiful day. >> Beautiful day. >> Doing a lot of walk-in. >> Doing a lot of walk-in. >> Doing a lot of walk-in. >> Where should we start off, man? We got >> Where should we start off, man? We got >> Where should we start off, man? We got tons. We just came back from our tons. We just came back from our tons. We just came back from our retreat. retreat. retreat. >> We did. We did. You want to describe the >> We did. We did. You want to describe the >> We did. We did. You want to describe the the format? the format? the format? >> Yeah. So, we've done a couple of these >> Yeah. So, we've done a couple of these >> Yeah. So, we've done a couple of these retreats. This is the second one where retreats. This is the second one where retreats. This is the second one where it's just a small group of people that it's just a small group of people that it's just a small group of people that are interested in meditation and that are interested in meditation and that are interested in meditation and that want to go a little bit deeper in the want to go a little bit deeper in the want to go a little bit deeper in the world of Zen. You know, you and I both world of Zen. You know, you and I both world of Zen. You know, you and I both talked about the way and Henry Shookman talked about the way and Henry Shookman talked about the way and Henry Shookman a ton. The Way being his app. And a ton. The Way being his app. And a ton. The Way being his app. And Henry's just a great leader, great Zen Henry's just a great leader, great Zen Henry's just a great leader, great Zen master, and was accompanied by Valerie, master, and was accompanied by Valerie, master, and was accompanied by Valerie, another Zen mastercloud another Zen mastercloud another Zen mastercloud >> at Mountaincloud Zen Center, >> at Mountaincloud Zen Center, >> at Mountaincloud Zen Center, >> New Mexico. So, we flew out there, small >> New Mexico. So, we flew out there, small >> New Mexico. So, we flew out there, small group, got together, and it's kind of group, got together, and it's kind of group, got together, and it's kind of like if if a if a proper Zen retreat is like if if a if a proper Zen retreat is like if if a if a proper Zen retreat is like 5:30 cushion in the morning and like 5:30 cushion in the morning and like 5:30 cushion in the morning and then you're off at 7:00 p.m. and it's then you're off at 7:00 p.m. and it's then you're off at 7:00 p.m. and it's hardcore, like no talking, shitty food. hardcore, like no talking, shitty food. hardcore, like no talking, shitty food. This was not that [laughter] like this This was not that [laughter] like this This was not that [laughter] like this was we had a good good chef that was was we had a good good chef that was was we had a good good chef that was there and we were allowed to ask there and we were allowed to ask there and we were allowed to ask questions in between sits. The sits were questions in between sits. The sits were questions in between sits. The sits were purposely kind of time bound to call it purposely kind of time bound to call it purposely kind of time bound to call it maximum of 25 minutes and then a walking maximum of 25 minutes and then a walking maximum of 25 minutes and then a walking meditation then another 25 minutes. That meditation then another 25 minutes. That meditation then another 25 minutes. That was like kind of the max. was like kind of the max. was like kind of the max. >> Yeah. Let me let me interject just so we >> Yeah. Let me let me interject just so we >> Yeah. Let me let me interject just so we don't get into hyper bougie territory don't get into hyper bougie territory don't get into hyper bougie territory too fast. So the chef was not our chef. too fast. So the chef was not our chef. too fast. So the chef was not our chef. He's actually as I remember this is a He's actually as I remember this is a He's actually as I remember this is a former I think James Beard award winner former I think James Beard award winner former I think James Beard award winner >> who decided >> who decided >> who decided >> to forgo the accolades and the >> to forgo the accolades and the >> to forgo the accolades and the attention. How is that less bougie than attention. How is that less bougie than attention. How is that less bougie than what I was going to say? Well, you said what I was going to say? Well, you said what I was going to say? Well, you said we had a like a a nice chef, and people we had a like a a nice chef, and people we had a like a a nice chef, and people might assume that we're like bringing in might assume that we're like bringing in might assume that we're like bringing in a chef. This is a chef who actually a chef. This is a chef who actually a chef. This is a chef who actually >> he lives there locally. [clears throat] >> he lives there locally. [clears throat] >> he lives there locally. [clears throat] >> I know that's the point I'm making. >> I know that's the point I'm making. >> I know that's the point I'm making. [laughter] He lives at the Zen Center [laughter] He lives at the Zen Center [laughter] He lives at the Zen Center and has chosen a life of simplicity and has chosen a life of simplicity and has chosen a life of simplicity working with local ingredients and working with local ingredients and working with local ingredients and stuff. stuff. stuff. >> And he is also normally there. It's not >> And he is also normally there. It's not >> And he is also normally there. It's not like we had our own dedicated like we had our own dedicated like we had our own dedicated >> That's right. chef. >> That's right. chef. >> That's right. chef. >> That's right. That's [laughter] >> That's right. That's [laughter] >> That's right. That's [laughter] >> not in my house. I eat I eat venison >> not in my house. I eat I eat venison >> not in my house. I eat I eat venison jerky sticks most of the time. lentil. jerky sticks most of the time. lentil. jerky sticks most of the time. lentil. Lentils out of a can still. Lentils out of a can still. Lentils out of a can still. >> And you chug my freaking ketones about 5 >> And you chug my freaking ketones about 5 >> And you chug my freaking ketones about 5 minutes ago. Tim just goes in my fridge minutes ago. Tim just goes in my fridge minutes ago. Tim just goes in my fridge and he's like, "Okay, what are you up and he's like, "Okay, what are you up and he's like, "Okay, what are you up to? to? to? >> I want to see what Kevin's up to. I want >> I want to see what Kevin's up to. I want >> I want to see what Kevin's up to. I want to see." to see." to see." >> He's like, "Okay, we got a little >> He's like, "Okay, we got a little >> He's like, "Okay, we got a little semiglutide in here. We got some patha. semiglutide in here. We got some patha. semiglutide in here. We got some patha. What else?" What else?" What else?" >> He's like, "Oh, ketones." And he starts >> He's like, "Oh, ketones." And he starts >> He's like, "Oh, ketones." And he starts chugging my my ketone esters. chugging my my ketone esters. chugging my my ketone esters. >> Well, yeah. I unwrapped it and I was >> Well, yeah. I unwrapped it and I was >> Well, yeah. I unwrapped it and I was like, I probably should ask if I can like, I probably should ask if I can like, I probably should ask if I can drink this, but I'm guessing this has drink this, but I'm guessing this has drink this, but I'm guessing this has been in there for weeks. been in there for weeks. been in there for weeks. >> Dude, I don't that stuff that you drink >> Dude, I don't that stuff that you drink >> Dude, I don't that stuff that you drink is like So, they make several ver is like So, they make several ver is like So, they make several ver versions of that. Yeah, versions of that. Yeah, versions of that. Yeah, >> that's like the fullon >> that's like the fullon >> that's like the fullon >> I won't even F-16 isn't the latest >> I won't even F-16 isn't the latest >> I won't even F-16 isn't the latest fighter jet. Whatever the gen 5 fighter fighter jet. Whatever the gen 5 fighter fighter jet. Whatever the gen 5 fighter jet is, F22, it's the highest intensity. jet is, F22, it's the highest intensity. jet is, F22, it's the highest intensity. This is the Delta G brand This is the Delta G brand This is the Delta G brand >> ketone monoester, which is BHB, which is >> ketone monoester, which is BHB, which is >> ketone monoester, which is BHB, which is kind of what you want kind of what you want kind of what you want >> bound with something called 13b butane >> bound with something called 13b butane >> bound with something called 13b butane dial, which I will say if you see that dial, which I will say if you see that dial, which I will say if you see that on the ingredient list of your on the ingredient list of your on the ingredient list of your supplement for exogenous ketones, treat supplement for exogenous ketones, treat supplement for exogenous ketones, treat it like a shot of tequila. You really it like a shot of tequila. You really it like a shot of tequila. You really want to use it in moderation. And want to use it in moderation. And want to use it in moderation. And there's mounting evidence that it's there's mounting evidence that it's there's mounting evidence that it's pretty unhealthy for your liver. So just pretty unhealthy for your liver. So just pretty unhealthy for your liver. So just use in moderation in terms of ketone use in moderation in terms of ketone use in moderation in terms of ketone supplementation. But hey, right before a supplementation. But hey, right before a supplementation. But hey, right before a podcast, it's a great time for me to podcast, it's a great time for me to podcast, it's a great time for me to take like 15 g. I will not do 30 because take like 15 g. I will not do 30 because take like 15 g. I will not do 30 because and I talked to she'll probably come up and I talked to she'll probably come up and I talked to she'll probably come up again. Our mutual friend Dr. Rhonda again. Our mutual friend Dr. Rhonda again. Our mutual friend Dr. Rhonda Patrick about this. I don't think I'm Patrick about this. I don't think I'm Patrick about this. I don't think I'm talking out of school here, but when you talking out of school here, but when you talking out of school here, but when you take when I take, and this is true for take when I take, and this is true for take when I take, and this is true for her as well, and I suspect other people, her as well, and I suspect other people, her as well, and I suspect other people, the full 30, like the entire shot, the full 30, like the entire shot, the full 30, like the entire shot, rather than decreasing anxiety, it rather than decreasing anxiety, it rather than decreasing anxiety, it actually for me spikes it. And I think actually for me spikes it. And I think actually for me spikes it. And I think that could be related to a very rapid that could be related to a very rapid that could be related to a very rapid rise and then trough, rise and then trough, rise and then trough, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> afterwards, but who knows? The point is >> afterwards, but who knows? The point is >> afterwards, but who knows? The point is keep it moderate. You're the first keep it moderate. You're the first keep it moderate. You're the first person to tell me that it impacts liver person to tell me that it impacts liver person to tell me that it impacts liver function function function >> and I have more often than not had >> and I have more often than not had >> and I have more often than not had elevated liver enzymes. elevated liver enzymes. elevated liver enzymes. >> Surprise, surprise, on the whole >> Surprise, surprise, on the whole >> Surprise, surprise, on the whole drinking front typically, but [snorts] drinking front typically, but [snorts] drinking front typically, but [snorts] it's something I watch. And it's something I watch. And it's something I watch. And >> when did you hear about that? Cuz I'd >> when did you hear about that? Cuz I'd >> when did you hear about that? Cuz I'd never heard that to be the case. never heard that to be the case. never heard that to be the case. >> I fortunately by virtue of doing the >> I fortunately by virtue of doing the >> I fortunately by virtue of doing the podcast and also being incredibly podcast and also being incredibly podcast and also being incredibly interested in science, interact with a interested in science, interact with a interested in science, interact with a lot of researchers. So I get to have lot of researchers. So I get to have lot of researchers. So I get to have chats with them once I get to know them chats with them once I get to know them chats with them once I get to know them better about pre-publication data, better about pre-publication data, better about pre-publication data, right? Studies that are underway and right? Studies that are underway and right? Studies that are underway and they never want to talk about them they never want to talk about them they never want to talk about them publicly because you have to check all publicly because you have to check all publicly because you have to check all the boxes and science is also very much the boxes and science is also very much the boxes and science is also very much about not fooling yourself when you make about not fooling yourself when you make about not fooling yourself when you make a certain hypothesis. a certain hypothesis. a certain hypothesis. But the first whispers of this were from But the first whispers of this were from But the first whispers of this were from and still are from animal models where and still are from animal models where and still are from animal models where you can basically dose mice with 13 you can basically dose mice with 13 you can basically dose mice with 13 butane dial and give them the equivalent butane dial and give them the equivalent butane dial and give them the equivalent of fatty liver disease. of fatty liver disease. of fatty liver disease. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> It's not good. >> It's not good. >> It's not good. >> And I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but >> And I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but >> And I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] >> The point is treat it like ethanol. >> The point is treat it like ethanol. >> The point is treat it like ethanol. Treat it like not even tequila. Treat it like not even tequila. Treat it like not even tequila. Moonshine. Like you're drinking Moonshine. Like you're drinking Moonshine. Like you're drinking moonshine. And you wouldn't want to do moonshine. And you wouldn't want to do moonshine. And you wouldn't want to do that every day. that every day. that every day. >> It tastes like moonshine >> It tastes like moonshine >> It tastes like moonshine >> or cough syrup. Cough syrup. Moonshine. >> or cough syrup. Cough syrup. Moonshine. >> or cough syrup. Cough syrup. Moonshine. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So that is just to say I think >> Yeah. So that is just to say I think >> Yeah. So that is just to say I think they still think there's a time and a they still think there's a time and a they still think there's a time and a place for it. I've been experimenting place for it. I've been experimenting place for it. I've been experimenting with other versions like ketone salts. with other versions like ketone salts. with other versions like ketone salts. Dominic Dagustinino he's also the Dominic Dagustinino he's also the Dominic Dagustinino he's also the co-author on some of the papers that are co-author on some of the papers that are co-author on some of the papers that are describing this. describing this. describing this. >> He tried bath salts for a while too >> He tried bath salts for a while too >> He tried bath salts for a while too which is which is which is >> that was a very odd version of Tim that >> that was a very odd version of Tim that >> that was a very odd version of Tim that >> if it's good if it's good for McAfee >> if it's good if it's good for McAfee >> if it's good if it's good for McAfee >> just eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eat eating the flesh off of eat eating the flesh off of eat eating the flesh off of >> yeah eating people wasn't that thing >> yeah eating people wasn't that thing >> yeah eating people wasn't that thing that happens in the median in Florida. that happens in the median in Florida. that happens in the median in Florida. It's always a Florida man. It's always a Florida man. It's always a Florida man. >> Yeah. [snorts] It's a Florida man dot >> Yeah. [snorts] It's a Florida man dot >> Yeah. [snorts] It's a Florida man dot dot dot. Yeah. dot dot. Yeah. dot dot. Yeah. >> Eats another person. >> Eats another person. >> Eats another person. >> Doing someone's face off after bath >> Doing someone's face off after bath >> Doing someone's face off after bath salts. Stay away from bath salts, kids. salts. Stay away from bath salts, kids. salts. Stay away from bath salts, kids. So, yeah, I came in nice and fully So, yeah, I came in nice and fully So, yeah, I came in nice and fully loaded today. loaded today. loaded today. >> Yeah. Awesome. Well, I am glad that >> Yeah. Awesome. Well, I am glad that >> Yeah. Awesome. Well, I am glad that you're feeling better cuz you also might you're feeling better cuz you also might you're feeling better cuz you also might not have made today. So, I Yeah, that's not have made today. So, I Yeah, that's not have made today. So, I Yeah, that's a sidebar. I I ended up I may have had a a sidebar. I I ended up I may have had a a sidebar. I I ended up I may have had a glancing blow of eggplant to which I'm glancing blow of eggplant to which I'm glancing blow of eggplant to which I'm deathly allergic and woke up in the deathly allergic and woke up in the deathly allergic and woke up in the middle of the night incredibly sick last middle of the night incredibly sick last middle of the night incredibly sick last night. [laughter] night. [laughter] night. [laughter] So, I'm glad I'm here. Yeah. And I So, I'm glad I'm here. Yeah. And I So, I'm glad I'm here. Yeah. And I brought my ampen for for dinner later. brought my ampen for for dinner later. brought my ampen for for dinner later. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. >> Learned my lesson. >> Learned my lesson. >> Learned my lesson. >> Bring your backup. >> Bring your backup. >> Bring your backup. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, the retreat, let's finish that off >> So, the retreat, let's finish that off >> So, the retreat, let's finish that off real quick. So, we got together. real quick. So, we got together. real quick. So, we got together. >> What did you learn this time around? Cuz >> What did you learn this time around? Cuz >> What did you learn this time around? Cuz we've done this twice. You've dabbled in we've done this twice. You've dabbled in we've done this twice. You've dabbled in the world of Zen. the world of Zen. the world of Zen. >> You've always said, correct me if I'm >> You've always said, correct me if I'm >> You've always said, correct me if I'm wrong, but meditation has been a hard wrong, but meditation has been a hard wrong, but meditation has been a hard thing for you typically. thing for you typically. thing for you typically. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Where are you now with your practice? >> Where are you now with your practice? >> Where are you now with your practice? Well, what I would say is, you know, the Well, what I would say is, you know, the Well, what I would say is, you know, the first thing speaking as a very much first thing speaking as a very much first thing speaking as a very much still a novice on any level, I would say still a novice on any level, I would say still a novice on any level, I would say that meditation is kind of like sports that meditation is kind of like sports that meditation is kind of like sports or exercise. It's like, do you like or exercise. It's like, do you like or exercise. It's like, do you like exercise? Like, well, what kind of exercise? Like, well, what kind of exercise? Like, well, what kind of exercise, right? Meditation. There's so exercise, right? Meditation. There's so exercise, right? Meditation. There's so many different ways to meditate or many different ways to meditate or many different ways to meditate or explore mindfulness. There's the vaposa explore mindfulness. There's the vaposa explore mindfulness. There's the vaposa approach. There's transcendental approach. There's transcendental approach. There's transcendental meditation. There's Zen, which is very meditation. There's Zen, which is very meditation. There's Zen, which is very much its own thing, right? And you know much its own thing, right? And you know much its own thing, right? And you know more about that than I do. But what I do more about that than I do. But what I do more about that than I do. But what I do find helpful about the retreats is find helpful about the retreats is find helpful about the retreats is you can describe what is going on when you can describe what is going on when you can describe what is going on when you're sitting still with your eyes you're sitting still with your eyes you're sitting still with your eyes closed trying to focus on something in closed trying to focus on something in closed trying to focus on something in the case of say the breath or trying to the case of say the breath or trying to the case of say the breath or trying to just observe whatever comes up. just observe whatever comes up. just observe whatever comes up. >> Mh. And the feedback that you get from >> Mh. And the feedback that you get from >> Mh. And the feedback that you get from someone like Henry or Valerie where you someone like Henry or Valerie where you someone like Henry or Valerie where you can do a 25 minute sit and then take a can do a 25 minute sit and then take a can do a 25 minute sit and then take a short break, talk about it and they can short break, talk about it and they can short break, talk about it and they can say well given that you experienced this say well given that you experienced this say well given that you experienced this this maybe you had restlessness. Maybe this maybe you had restlessness. Maybe this maybe you had restlessness. Maybe you had in my case this sort of planning you had in my case this sort of planning you had in my case this sort of planning compulsion right? So rather than compulsion right? So rather than compulsion right? So rather than memories or fantasies about who knows memories or fantasies about who knows memories or fantasies about who knows what, not necessarily. People can run what, not necessarily. People can run what, not necessarily. People can run wild with that, but I default to plans wild with that, but I default to plans wild with that, but I default to plans like things I need to do, like things I need to do, like things I need to do, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And it's like, okay, well, if that's >> And it's like, okay, well, if that's >> And it's like, okay, well, if that's coming up, then Henry might say, why coming up, then Henry might say, why coming up, then Henry might say, why don't you try in the next set, which don't you try in the next set, which don't you try in the next set, which we're going to do in 10 minutes or 5 we're going to do in 10 minutes or 5 we're going to do in 10 minutes or 5 minutes, A, B, or C. And then you do it minutes, A, B, or C. And then you do it minutes, A, B, or C. And then you do it and you provide feedback. And so you're and you provide feedback. And so you're and you provide feedback. And so you're able to really polish the stone moving able to really polish the stone moving able to really polish the stone moving forward. And similar I suppose to a lot forward. And similar I suppose to a lot forward. And similar I suppose to a lot of what we might call transcendental of what we might call transcendental of what we might call transcendental experiences which sounds fancy but it's experiences which sounds fancy but it's experiences which sounds fancy but it's really just perhaps not fixating on the really just perhaps not fixating on the really just perhaps not fixating on the self or interrogating what this thing is self or interrogating what this thing is self or interrogating what this thing is that we call the self which you can do that we call the self which you can do that we call the self which you can do through meditation. through meditation. through meditation. >> You can also do it with or maybe you're >> You can also do it with or maybe you're >> You can also do it with or maybe you're forced to do it in some cases with forced to do it in some cases with forced to do it in some cases with psychedelic experiences or other things psychedelic experiences or other things psychedelic experiences or other things breath work. breath work. breath work. >> When I was there at the retreat you >> When I was there at the retreat you >> When I was there at the retreat you might remember this. I was getting very might remember this. I was getting very might remember this. I was getting very frustrated and I was like where's all frustrated and I was like where's all frustrated and I was like where's all this frustration coming from? Yeah. this frustration coming from? Yeah. this frustration coming from? Yeah. >> And while I was there, I was like, I >> And while I was there, I was like, I >> And while I was there, I was like, I don't know how much I'm getting out of don't know how much I'm getting out of don't know how much I'm getting out of this right now. this right now. this right now. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But when I got back to quote unquote >> But when I got back to quote unquote >> But when I got back to quote unquote real life in Austin, I had like 3 to 5 real life in Austin, I had like 3 to 5 real life in Austin, I had like 3 to 5 days of this just kind of blissful, calm days of this just kind of blissful, calm days of this just kind of blissful, calm attention where I was able to get attention where I was able to get attention where I was able to get everything done I need to get done. everything done I need to get done. everything done I need to get done. There was no rushing. There was no rushing. There was no rushing. >> There was no looping and any kind of >> There was no looping and any kind of >> There was no looping and any kind of future tripping. And I was like, well, future tripping. And I was like, well, future tripping. And I was like, well, that's very interesting. And it also that's very interesting. And it also that's very interesting. And it also holds true for say breath work, holds true for say breath work, holds true for say breath work, psychedelics. There are many different psychedelics. There are many different psychedelics. There are many different things that you could look at. And things that you could look at. And things that you could look at. And interestingly, maybe this is one way to interestingly, maybe this is one way to interestingly, maybe this is one way to think of it. I mean, in a sense, there think of it. I mean, in a sense, there think of it. I mean, in a sense, there are a lot of parallels between different are a lot of parallels between different are a lot of parallels between different methods for entering what people might methods for entering what people might methods for entering what people might consider a trans state. And I don't consider a trans state. And I don't consider a trans state. And I don't think meditation is exempt from that think meditation is exempt from that think meditation is exempt from that depending on what it is. But if it's a depending on what it is. But if it's a depending on what it is. But if it's a concentration practice, it's like for concentration practice, it's like for concentration practice, it's like for sure sure sure >> you're using a mantra or you're using >> you're using a mantra or you're using >> you're using a mantra or you're using something you're repeating. in the case something you're repeating. in the case something you're repeating. in the case of of of >> TM in the same way that you might use >> TM in the same way that you might use >> TM in the same way that you might use rhythmic drumming. rhythmic drumming. rhythmic drumming. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you can go some pretty weird places >> And you can go some pretty weird places >> And you can go some pretty weird places and then you come out of you're like, I and then you come out of you're like, I and then you come out of you're like, I don't know what to make of that don't know what to make of that don't know what to make of that >> and sometimes the payoff is what you >> and sometimes the payoff is what you >> and sometimes the payoff is what you notice in the next unfolding week or two notice in the next unfolding week or two notice in the next unfolding week or two or three or whatever the duration might or three or whatever the duration might or three or whatever the duration might be. be. be. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> So that was that was very invigorating >> So that was that was very invigorating >> So that was that was very invigorating for me. And also Henry at one point used for me. And also Henry at one point used for me. And also Henry at one point used a prompt a prompt a prompt in response to I'll give a great this is in response to I'll give a great this is in response to I'll give a great this is a real world example of something that a real world example of something that a real world example of something that happened to me something I experienced happened to me something I experienced happened to me something I experienced in the sit and then Henry's response in the sit and then Henry's response in the sit and then Henry's response right so I use the way all the time full right so I use the way all the time full right so I use the way all the time full disclosure we're both involved with it I disclosure we're both involved with it I disclosure we're both involved with it I mean it's really because mean it's really because mean it's really because more than anything else it's just I more than anything else it's just I more than anything else it's just I think it's good for humanity and people think it's good for humanity and people think it's good for humanity and people to learn from somebody who is really to learn from somebody who is really to learn from somebody who is really deliberate about layering on progressive deliberate about layering on progressive deliberate about layering on progressive skills that you can take outside of the skills that you can take outside of the skills that you can take outside of the meditation. meditation. meditation. But one of the practices is labeling. So But one of the practices is labeling. So But one of the practices is labeling. So if and there are a million different if and there are a million different if and there are a million different ways to do this, but let's just say talk ways to do this, but let's just say talk ways to do this, but let's just say talk comes up in the mind and you label it comes up in the mind and you label it comes up in the mind and you label it radio or talking and then if some kind radio or talking and then if some kind radio or talking and then if some kind of video comes up in the mind, right? of video comes up in the mind, right? of video comes up in the mind, right? Images, Images, Images, >> you're imagining something or planning >> you're imagining something or planning >> you're imagining something or planning something or remembering something. something or remembering something. something or remembering something. Okay, that's video, right? And so on and Okay, that's video, right? And so on and Okay, that's video, right? And so on and so forth. Yeah. But for me, as someone so forth. Yeah. But for me, as someone so forth. Yeah. But for me, as someone with very well established OCD, with very well established OCD, with very well established OCD, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] I can just end up being like radio radio I can just end up being like radio radio I can just end up being like radio radio radio and it turns into radio and it turns into radio and it turns into >> instead of a helpful thing, a very >> instead of a helpful thing, a very >> instead of a helpful thing, a very interruptive, stressful thing, right? interruptive, stressful thing, right? interruptive, stressful thing, right? >> And at that point in the retreat, and >> And at that point in the retreat, and >> And at that point in the retreat, and the retreat clear was 3 to 4 days, the retreat clear was 3 to 4 days, the retreat clear was 3 to 4 days, something like that. It was very short. something like that. It was very short. something like that. It was very short. Henry said, "Okay, well, let's" He moved Henry said, "Okay, well, let's" He moved Henry said, "Okay, well, let's" He moved into the next sit and he said, "Just be into the next sit and he said, "Just be into the next sit and he said, "Just be still, right? Like, just be still. still, right? Like, just be still. still, right? Like, just be still. That's it. That is the focus. Like, just That's it. That is the focus. Like, just That's it. That is the focus. Like, just sit still." And did that for two sit still." And did that for two sit still." And did that for two consecutive sits. I just focused on consecutive sits. I just focused on consecutive sits. I just focused on that. And it was remarkable how much that. And it was remarkable how much that. And it was remarkable how much everything calmed down. I was like, everything calmed down. I was like, everything calmed down. I was like, "Okay, "Okay, "Okay, >> well, just like exercise, like some >> well, just like exercise, like some >> well, just like exercise, like some people, sure, can go to the gym and do people, sure, can go to the gym and do people, sure, can go to the gym and do full sprinting workouts on an incline full sprinting workouts on an incline full sprinting workouts on an incline treadmill. Not everybody can do that, treadmill. Not everybody can do that, treadmill. Not everybody can do that, >> right? and other folks are well suited >> right? and other folks are well suited >> right? and other folks are well suited to yoga. Some people are well suited to to yoga. Some people are well suited to to yoga. Some people are well suited to different types of lifting, etc. And different types of lifting, etc. And different types of lifting, etc. And everybody should probably spend a little everybody should probably spend a little everybody should probably spend a little bit of time in each of those bit of time in each of those bit of time in each of those compartments if they can. compartments if they can. compartments if they can. >> But it's not like everyone is equally >> But it's not like everyone is equally >> But it's not like everyone is equally suited. suited. suited. >> For instance, in my case, to like the >> For instance, in my case, to like the >> For instance, in my case, to like the open monitoring stuff, like we'll just open monitoring stuff, like we'll just open monitoring stuff, like we'll just sit there and notice all the things that sit there and notice all the things that sit there and notice all the things that come up. I was like, so I came out of come up. I was like, so I came out of come up. I was like, so I came out of the retreat thinking, you know what, the retreat thinking, you know what, the retreat thinking, you know what, something along the lines of something along the lines of something along the lines of transcendental meditation, not transcendental meditation, not transcendental meditation, not necessarily with that branding, but necessarily with that branding, but necessarily with that branding, but using a [ __ ] using just be still as a using a [ __ ] using just be still as a using a [ __ ] using just be still as a concentration practice that I repeat concentration practice that I repeat concentration practice that I repeat really gives me a lot of payoff. If I really gives me a lot of payoff. If I really gives me a lot of payoff. If I just sit still for 10 to 20 minutes just sit still for 10 to 20 minutes just sit still for 10 to 20 minutes twice a day, twice a day, twice a day, >> can I tell you my theory on this? >> can I tell you my theory on this? >> can I tell you my theory on this? >> No. >> No. >> No. So my my one of my theories because I've So my my one of my theories because I've So my my one of my theories because I've been going super deep on bioelectric been going super deep on bioelectric been going super deep on bioelectric medicine and different ways of using medicine and different ways of using medicine and different ways of using electricity in place of pills basically electricity in place of pills basically electricity in place of pills basically >> and medications which I think is really >> and medications which I think is really >> and medications which I think is really the next frontier in a million different the next frontier in a million different the next frontier in a million different ways. People should check out Michael ways. People should check out Michael ways. People should check out Michael Leven tufts and some of the crazy Leven tufts and some of the crazy Leven tufts and some of the crazy [snorts] stuff he's able to do. But [snorts] stuff he's able to do. But [snorts] stuff he's able to do. But related to meditation, I did this deep related to meditation, I did this deep related to meditation, I did this deep dive with someone named dive with someone named dive with someone named Kevin Tracy who's very credible Kevin Tracy who's very credible Kevin Tracy who's very credible scientist, very widely cited, helped scientist, very widely cited, helped scientist, very widely cited, helped discover and explore a lot related to discover and explore a lot related to discover and explore a lot related to TNF alpha and all sorts of things. TNF alpha and all sorts of things. TNF alpha and all sorts of things. >> And he is incredibly [snorts] >> And he is incredibly [snorts] >> And he is incredibly [snorts] knowledgeable of vag nerve stimulation. knowledgeable of vag nerve stimulation. knowledgeable of vag nerve stimulation. Not the bogus [ __ ] kind, which is Not the bogus [ __ ] kind, which is Not the bogus [ __ ] kind, which is 99.9% of what you see on the internet. 99.9% of what you see on the internet. 99.9% of what you see on the internet. >> Yeah. Yeah. But using say implants the >> Yeah. Yeah. But using say implants the >> Yeah. Yeah. But using say implants the size of an omega-3 capsule in the neck, size of an omega-3 capsule in the neck, size of an omega-3 capsule in the neck, which is where the biggest nerves run. which is where the biggest nerves run. which is where the biggest nerves run. It's really like two transcontinental It's really like two transcontinental It's really like two transcontinental cables running down either side of the cables running down either side of the cables running down either side of the neck. Each one has about 100,000 fibers. neck. Each one has about 100,000 fibers. neck. Each one has about 100,000 fibers. And if you put an implant in that's And if you put an implant in that's And if you put an implant in that's giving continuous stimulation giving continuous stimulation giving continuous stimulation on and off, on and off. It's not 24/7. on and off, on and off. It's not 24/7. on and off, on and off. It's not 24/7. It's incredibly effective for things It's incredibly effective for things It's incredibly effective for things like rheumatoid arthritis. like rheumatoid arthritis. like rheumatoid arthritis. >> And actually, it was FDA approved. It >> And actually, it was FDA approved. It >> And actually, it was FDA approved. It was on the cover of the New York Times was on the cover of the New York Times was on the cover of the New York Times the day that I interviewed him. And that the day that I interviewed him. And that the day that I interviewed him. And that raised the question, how? Why? What's raised the question, how? Why? What's raised the question, how? Why? What's going on? And it just so happens when going on? And it just so happens when going on? And it just so happens when you stimulate the Vegas nerve, you you stimulate the Vegas nerve, you you stimulate the Vegas nerve, you activate something called the activate something called the activate something called the inflammatory reflex. And you can in inflammatory reflex. And you can in inflammatory reflex. And you can in effect prevent damaging cytoine storms, effect prevent damaging cytoine storms, effect prevent damaging cytoine storms, decrease systemic inflammation of all decrease systemic inflammation of all decrease systemic inflammation of all different types. That word inflammation different types. That word inflammation different types. That word inflammation is kind of a umbrella term for a is kind of a umbrella term for a is kind of a umbrella term for a thousand million different things. And I thousand million different things. And I thousand million different things. And I remember chatting with one of my friends remember chatting with one of my friends remember chatting with one of my friends who is a professor. He was using the 10% who is a professor. He was using the 10% who is a professor. He was using the 10% Happier app by Dan Harris and he was Happier app by Dan Harris and he was Happier app by Dan Harris and he was meditating twice a day and after like meditating twice a day and after like meditating twice a day and after like one or two weeks he's like all of his one or two weeks he's like all of his one or two weeks he's like all of his aches which are debilitating. Like he aches which are debilitating. Like he aches which are debilitating. Like he had a lot of muscular skeletal issues had a lot of muscular skeletal issues had a lot of muscular skeletal issues >> they just went away. And one way people >> they just went away. And one way people >> they just went away. And one way people might try to explain that is like, well, might try to explain that is like, well, might try to explain that is like, well, you're becoming more present to your you're becoming more present to your you're becoming more present to your feelings and maybe it was psychosmatic, feelings and maybe it was psychosmatic, feelings and maybe it was psychosmatic, right? right? right? >> But I think it might actually be when >> But I think it might actually be when >> But I think it might actually be when you sit still and you inherently end up you sit still and you inherently end up you sit still and you inherently end up breathing rhythmically because you can breathing rhythmically because you can breathing rhythmically because you can also stimulate your vag nerve with say also stimulate your vag nerve with say also stimulate your vag nerve with say box breathing and other things box breathing and other things box breathing and other things >> that you do that twice a day. If you >> that you do that twice a day. If you >> that you do that twice a day. If you were to use an implant or let's just say were to use an implant or let's just say were to use an implant or let's just say either earbased or neck based either earbased or neck based either earbased or neck based stimulation of the Vegas nerve, guess stimulation of the Vegas nerve, guess stimulation of the Vegas nerve, guess how long it lasts? Roughly 12 hours. So how long it lasts? Roughly 12 hours. So how long it lasts? Roughly 12 hours. So you do it twice a day, you're getting you do it twice a day, you're getting you do it twice a day, you're getting full coverage. Oh, interesting. And so full coverage. Oh, interesting. And so full coverage. Oh, interesting. And so if you're getting full coverage, and if you're getting full coverage, and if you're getting full coverage, and there's a lot more to it, I won't dig there's a lot more to it, I won't dig there's a lot more to it, I won't dig too deep right now. If you're getting too deep right now. If you're getting too deep right now. If you're getting twice a day vag nerve stimulation from twice a day vag nerve stimulation from twice a day vag nerve stimulation from sitting and focusing on breathing, even sitting and focusing on breathing, even sitting and focusing on breathing, even if you don't realize that you're if you don't realize that you're if you don't realize that you're entraining your breathing, I think that entraining your breathing, I think that entraining your breathing, I think that might have explanatory power for some of might have explanatory power for some of might have explanatory power for some of the benefits people see from meditation. the benefits people see from meditation. the benefits people see from meditation. That's fascinating. So, I bought one of That's fascinating. So, I bought one of That's fascinating. So, I bought one of the Vegas nerve stimulators that hooks the Vegas nerve stimulators that hooks the Vegas nerve stimulators that hooks onto my ear. Have you seen that one? And onto my ear. Have you seen that one? And onto my ear. Have you seen that one? And you feel that this little tiny pulse of you feel that this little tiny pulse of you feel that this little tiny pulse of current that's happening. M current that's happening. M current that's happening. M >> people who are not watching this may >> people who are not watching this may >> people who are not watching this may have trouble envisioning this, but I'm have trouble envisioning this, but I'm have trouble envisioning this, but I'm actually in communication with a couple actually in communication with a couple actually in communication with a couple of scientists in Scandinavia. of scientists in Scandinavia. of scientists in Scandinavia. I don't want to dox this guy cuz I don't I don't want to dox this guy cuz I don't I don't want to dox this guy cuz I don't think he's public with it yet, but there think he's public with it yet, but there think he's public with it yet, but there are two ways currently non-invasively to are two ways currently non-invasively to are two ways currently non-invasively to to stimulate the vag nerve that are to stimulate the vag nerve that are to stimulate the vag nerve that are commonly known. One is the neck where commonly known. One is the neck where commonly known. One is the neck where you really like press some type of you really like press some type of you really like press some type of device. There are a number of them out device. There are a number of them out device. There are a number of them out there mostly used for migraines or there mostly used for migraines or there mostly used for migraines or cluster headaches. It's pretty cluster headaches. It's pretty cluster headaches. It's pretty unpleasant. Like you stimulate the neck unpleasant. Like you stimulate the neck unpleasant. Like you stimulate the neck and it activates the superficial muscles and it activates the superficial muscles and it activates the superficial muscles in your face and it pulls your face in your face and it pulls your face in your face and it pulls your face down. down. down. And I used one of those for probably And I used one of those for probably And I used one of those for probably four to six weeks. Didn't see any four to six weeks. Didn't see any four to six weeks. Didn't see any systemic benefits. systemic benefits. systemic benefits. A friend of mine doubled his HRV using A friend of mine doubled his HRV using A friend of mine doubled his HRV using one of those devices like from he he had one of those devices like from he he had one of those devices like from he he had some I'm not going to call it PTSD, but some I'm not going to call it PTSD, but some I'm not going to call it PTSD, but he had some he had some he had some >> overactive sympathetic drive. >> overactive sympathetic drive. >> overactive sympathetic drive. >> Mhm. And the vagus nerve stimulation is >> Mhm. And the vagus nerve stimulation is >> Mhm. And the vagus nerve stimulation is associated with the rest and digest associated with the rest and digest associated with the rest and digest parasympathetic. Okay. Which is also why parasympathetic. Okay. Which is also why parasympathetic. Okay. Which is also why right now I stimulate before bed right now I stimulate before bed right now I stimulate before bed >> 5 minutes twice a day. >> 5 minutes twice a day. >> 5 minutes twice a day. >> I mean I do >> I mean I do >> I mean I do >> for for the ear. Jesus Christ. >> for for the ear. Jesus Christ. >> for for the ear. Jesus Christ. >> No I talk about the [laughter] >> No I talk about the [laughter] >> No I talk about the [laughter] >> for for the ear. There's something >> for for the ear. There's something >> for for the ear. There's something called the Simba conscia. I think I'm called the Simba conscia. I think I'm called the Simba conscia. I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. Yeah. If pronouncing that correctly. Yeah. If pronouncing that correctly. Yeah. If people can see most of the research people can see most of the research people can see most of the research >> this little bit right here. >> this little bit right here. >> this little bit right here. >> Most right here. >> Most right here. >> Most right here. >> Okay. And you can look this up online. >> Okay. And you can look this up online. >> Okay. And you can look this up online. You kind of want the the the portion of You kind of want the the the portion of You kind of want the the the portion of the simba that is closer to your the simba that is closer to your the simba that is closer to your sideburns, let's say. sideburns, let's say. sideburns, let's say. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then you need another piece that is >> And then you need another piece that is >> And then you need another piece that is grounding and or completing the circuit grounding and or completing the circuit grounding and or completing the circuit and that's got to be touching your skin. and that's got to be touching your skin. and that's got to be touching your skin. The contact point is incredibly The contact point is incredibly The contact point is incredibly important. Are there any of these that important. Are there any of these that important. Are there any of these that you like that are consumer available? you like that are consumer available? you like that are consumer available? Cuz a lot of the stuff you you Cuz a lot of the stuff you you Cuz a lot of the stuff you you mentioned, mentioned, mentioned, >> you can DIY it with components off of >> you can DIY it with components off of >> you can DIY it with components off of Amazon and maybe I'll make that Amazon and maybe I'll make that Amazon and maybe I'll make that available to folks. The reason I available to folks. The reason I available to folks. The reason I hesitate to do that is that it's easy to hesitate to do that is that it's easy to hesitate to do that is that it's easy to get wrong get wrong get wrong >> and you can >> and you can >> and you can I just don't want to be responsible for I just don't want to be responsible for I just don't want to be responsible for people trying to [laughter] people trying to [laughter] people trying to [laughter] put current through their heads. Right. put current through their heads. Right. put current through their heads. Right. There are a lot of people who DIY trying There are a lot of people who DIY trying There are a lot of people who DIY trying to do TMS and stuff. to do TMS and stuff. to do TMS and stuff. >> Yeah. This is the one and they reverse >> Yeah. This is the one and they reverse >> Yeah. This is the one and they reverse polarity and they like you can fry your polarity and they like you can fry your polarity and they like you can fry your brain. Not with the vag nerve stuff brain. Not with the vag nerve stuff brain. Not with the vag nerve stuff necessarily, but you got to be really necessarily, but you got to be really necessarily, but you got to be really careful with stimulation. careful with stimulation. careful with stimulation. >> Have you ever heard of this one? >> Have you ever heard of this one? >> Have you ever heard of this one? Neuropod. Neuropod. Neuropod. >> I haven't. >> I haven't. >> I haven't. >> Yeah. I haven't had I mean it's it's >> Yeah. I haven't had I mean it's it's >> Yeah. I haven't had I mean it's it's basically if you look at who's involved basically if you look at who's involved basically if you look at who's involved on the the scientist level like it's on the the scientist level like it's on the the scientist level like it's it's crazy the number of you know it's crazy the number of you know it's crazy the number of you know >> n u r o p o d let me see the world's >> n u r o p o d let me see the world's >> n u r o p o d let me see the world's most studied wearable Vegas nerve most studied wearable Vegas nerve most studied wearable Vegas nerve stimulation stimulation stimulation >> 100 plus international UCLA did a study >> 100 plus international UCLA did a study >> 100 plus international UCLA did a study there pen I there pen I there pen I >> that's interesting to check it out >> that's interesting to check it out >> that's interesting to check it out >> it's interesting but I will say like >> it's interesting but I will say like >> it's interesting but I will say like just beyond anything I've owned this just beyond anything I've owned this just beyond anything I've owned this thing for about a year and a half I did thing for about a year and a half I did thing for about a year and a half I did it for about 2 weeks for 30 minutes a it for about 2 weeks for 30 minutes a it for about 2 weeks for 30 minutes a day and I didn't notice anything. Yeah, day and I didn't notice anything. Yeah, day and I didn't notice anything. Yeah, I'm looking. It's hard for me to see the I'm looking. It's hard for me to see the I'm looking. It's hard for me to see the placement on the earpiece. The placement placement on the earpiece. The placement placement on the earpiece. The placement is very very very specific. is very very very specific. is very very very specific. >> Clips right here to this this lobe right >> Clips right here to this this lobe right >> Clips right here to this this lobe right here. here. here. >> Oh, yeah. I don't think that's in the >> Oh, yeah. I don't think that's in the >> Oh, yeah. I don't think that's in the right place. right place. right place. >> But you feel a little ticky ticky tick >> But you feel a little ticky ticky tick >> But you feel a little ticky ticky tick like like shock almost. like like shock almost. like like shock almost. >> Yeah. I I don't think you're Look, I >> Yeah. I I don't think you're Look, I >> Yeah. I I don't think you're Look, I this is my first time seeing it, but I this is my first time seeing it, but I this is my first time seeing it, but I don't think you're going to be don't think you're going to be don't think you're going to be necessarily hitting as many fibers as necessarily hitting as many fibers as necessarily hitting as many fibers as you would want if that's the placement. you would want if that's the placement. you would want if that's the placement. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> but who knows? Look, a lot of fancy >> but who knows? Look, a lot of fancy >> but who knows? Look, a lot of fancy names on the website. Maybe I'll take a names on the website. Maybe I'll take a names on the website. Maybe I'll take a look at it. Yeah, I mean it's worth look at it. Yeah, I mean it's worth look at it. Yeah, I mean it's worth mine. I want something I can recommend mine. I want something I can recommend mine. I want something I can recommend to people. to people. to people. >> Yeah, exactly. Right now, I can't >> Yeah, exactly. Right now, I can't >> Yeah, exactly. Right now, I can't recommend this because it's not done recommend this because it's not done recommend this because it's not done anything for me, but I when I was doing anything for me, but I when I was doing anything for me, but I when I was doing the research for the most like this one, the research for the most like this one, the research for the most like this one, they've clearly paid for studies to be they've clearly paid for studies to be they've clearly paid for studies to be done. Obviously, that's a huge grain of done. Obviously, that's a huge grain of done. Obviously, that's a huge grain of salt because salt because salt because >> who's doing the studies and what their >> who's doing the studies and what their >> who's doing the studies and what their biases and whatnot, but I'll let you biases and whatnot, but I'll let you biases and whatnot, but I'll let you I'll let you borrow mine and see if it I'll let you borrow mine and see if it I'll let you borrow mine and see if it does does anything for you. It is a $900 does does anything for you. It is a $900 does does anything for you. It is a $900 device, which is like [ __ ] that's a lot device, which is like [ __ ] that's a lot device, which is like [ __ ] that's a lot of money to spend. I'm yeah I'm using a of money to spend. I'm yeah I'm using a of money to spend. I'm yeah I'm using a prototype of one from Scandinavia right prototype of one from Scandinavia right prototype of one from Scandinavia right now on Amazon. Look, I'm sure people can now on Amazon. Look, I'm sure people can now on Amazon. Look, I'm sure people can find some instructions for this. You can find some instructions for this. You can find some instructions for this. You can DIY something for like 20 to $25 worth DIY something for like 20 to $25 worth DIY something for like 20 to $25 worth of components on Amazon. of components on Amazon. of components on Amazon. >> It is not. It's just a small unit >> It is not. It's just a small unit >> It is not. It's just a small unit >> cables. The placement is very >> cables. The placement is very >> cables. The placement is very challenging to get right. challenging to get right. challenging to get right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I did not see much in terms of >> And I did not see much in terms of >> And I did not see much in terms of results from me even with a lot of results from me even with a lot of results from me even with a lot of professional guidance using that. So I professional guidance using that. So I professional guidance using that. So I want to tell you about something want to tell you about something want to tell you about something related. related. related. >> But but can I stop for a second? Try >> But but can I stop for a second? Try >> But but can I stop for a second? Try breathing. breathing. breathing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like do box breathing. >> Like do box breathing. >> Like do box breathing. >> So that's what this >> So that's what this >> So that's what this >> or something like that. Do that twice a >> or something like that. Do that twice a >> or something like that. Do that twice a day. day. day. >> Okay. This is why also in the great >> Okay. This is why also in the great >> Okay. This is why also in the great nerve which is a book written by Kevin nerve which is a book written by Kevin nerve which is a book written by Kevin Tracy. It's a great book. There's an Tracy. It's a great book. There's an Tracy. It's a great book. There's an extended chapter about Wimhof. And extended chapter about Wimhof. And extended chapter about Wimhof. And Wimhof is a very controversial figure Wimhof is a very controversial figure Wimhof is a very controversial figure but well known for breath work. And you but well known for breath work. And you but well known for breath work. And you see some of the same effects in terms of see some of the same effects in terms of see some of the same effects in terms of controlling immune response so that it controlling immune response so that it controlling immune response so that it is not excessive is not excessive is not excessive with respect to various types of with respect to various types of with respect to various types of cytoines and so on. You can do it with cytoines and so on. You can do it with cytoines and so on. You can do it with breath work. breath work. breath work. >> So yeah, what are we looking at? >> So yeah, what are we looking at? >> So yeah, what are we looking at? >> This. Have you ever heard of heart math? >> This. Have you ever heard of heart math? >> This. Have you ever heard of heart math? >> I have heard of heart math. >> I have heard of heart math. >> I have heard of heart math. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> I went to little mini retreat where they >> I went to little mini retreat where they >> I went to little mini retreat where they were doing like a bunch of different were doing like a bunch of different were doing like a bunch of different modalities in terms of different modalities in terms of different modalities in terms of different therapies and things to like just really therapies and things to like just really therapies and things to like just really let you be the best version of yourself. let you be the best version of yourself. let you be the best version of yourself. And one of the things that they did was And one of the things that they did was And one of the things that they did was they gave you a heart math device and they gave you a heart math device and they gave you a heart math device and they had a whole class on it. And I was they had a whole class on it. And I was they had a whole class on it. And I was like, "Yeah, I heard that thing before. like, "Yeah, I heard that thing before. like, "Yeah, I heard that thing before. I never tried it." And so I hooked it up I never tried it." And so I hooked it up I never tried it." And so I hooked it up to my ear and it measures your HRV. But to my ear and it measures your HRV. But to my ear and it measures your HRV. But what what blew my mind was that the app what what blew my mind was that the app what what blew my mind was that the app once you launch it, it's like follow once you launch it, it's like follow once you launch it, it's like follow this box breathing and we're going to this box breathing and we're going to this box breathing and we're going to watch you get to watch your HRV in real watch you get to watch your HRV in real watch you get to watch your HRV in real time. time. time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And dude, it when I followed it just as >> And dude, it when I followed it just as >> And dude, it when I followed it just as it was telling me what to do, the HRV it was telling me what to do, the HRV it was telling me what to do, the HRV just like shot up. just like shot up. just like shot up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then I would try and trick it and >> And then I would try and trick it and >> And then I would try and trick it and I'd be like I'd follow it, but I think I'd be like I'd follow it, but I think I'd be like I'd follow it, but I think of something really stressful and my HRV of something really stressful and my HRV of something really stressful and my HRV would go down. So there, I'm telling would go down. So there, I'm telling would go down. So there, I'm telling you, this is the coolest device I have you, this is the coolest device I have you, this is the coolest device I have owned in a while. And you lock into this owned in a while. And you lock into this owned in a while. And you lock into this coherence mode as you do this breathing. coherence mode as you do this breathing. coherence mode as you do this breathing. And it's it's pretty awesome. It's 250 And it's it's pretty awesome. It's 250 And it's it's pretty awesome. It's 250 bucks. I'm not an investor or anything, bucks. I'm not an investor or anything, bucks. I'm not an investor or anything, but heartmath.commath.com but heartmath.commath.com but heartmath.commath.com >> and 60-day money back guarantee. And >> and 60-day money back guarantee. And >> and 60-day money back guarantee. And well, I I want to say that because I I well, I I want to say that because I I well, I I want to say that because I I hate recommending stuff. hate recommending stuff. hate recommending stuff. >> Affiliate code Kevin 40%. [laughter] >> Affiliate code Kevin 40%. [laughter] >> Affiliate code Kevin 40%. [laughter] >> Exactly. Tim Tim 20% off. Uh I I hate >> Exactly. Tim Tim 20% off. Uh I I hate >> Exactly. Tim Tim 20% off. Uh I I hate recommending stuff when people spend recommending stuff when people spend recommending stuff when people spend their money and but I will say this with their money and but I will say this with their money and but I will say this with the one one thing that I was the one one thing that I was the one one thing that I was >> I've heard good things about HeartMath. >> I've heard good things about HeartMath. >> I've heard good things about HeartMath. I don't know who's involved. I did. I don't know who's involved. I did. I don't know who's involved. I did. Maybe you didn't know this. For a period Maybe you didn't know this. For a period Maybe you didn't know this. For a period of time, maybe it was about three of time, maybe it was about three of time, maybe it was about three months, I did training for this months, I did training for this months, I did training for this specifically, I think it was before any specifically, I think it was before any specifically, I think it was before any retail options were available with a retail options were available with a retail options were available with a doctor named Leah Logos, who has a book doctor named Leah Logos, who has a book doctor named Leah Logos, who has a book about this. And we actually in real time about this. And we actually in real time about this. And we actually in real time would do a video call and identify what would do a video call and identify what would do a video call and identify what type of breathing specifically would type of breathing specifically would type of breathing specifically would have in real time the biggest impact on have in real time the biggest impact on have in real time the biggest impact on HR. HR. HR. >> And there is something to this. There's >> And there is something to this. There's >> And there is something to this. There's definitely something to this. I can't definitely something to this. I can't definitely something to this. I can't speak to heart math, but I've I've heard speak to heart math, but I've I've heard speak to heart math, but I've I've heard of it before. So, don't worry about the of it before. So, don't worry about the of it before. So, don't worry about the device for stimulation. The point being, device for stimulation. The point being, device for stimulation. The point being, try meditating twice a day for 10 to 20 try meditating twice a day for 10 to 20 try meditating twice a day for 10 to 20 minutes. And if you're like, gh minutes. And if you're like, gh minutes. And if you're like, gh meditating, god, I'm allergic to that meditating, god, I'm allergic to that meditating, god, I'm allergic to that word because it gets used so much. Try word because it gets used so much. Try word because it gets used so much. Try breathing, right? Use heart math or breathing, right? Use heart math or breathing, right? Use heart math or something else. There's not a whole lot something else. There's not a whole lot something else. There's not a whole lot you need to worry about. Andy while has you need to worry about. Andy while has you need to worry about. Andy while has some very good breathing exercises. some very good breathing exercises. some very good breathing exercises. >> 478. >> 478. >> 478. >> Yeah. So, I have box breathing and478 on >> Yeah. So, I have box breathing and478 on >> Yeah. So, I have box breathing and478 on my app. It's still in the app store and my app. It's still in the app store and my app. It's still in the app store and it's 100% free. Yeah, it's 100% free. Yeah, it's 100% free. Yeah, >> there's no way you to pay for anything >> there's no way you to pay for anything >> there's no way you to pay for anything on the app. So, if you just Google, you on the app. So, if you just Google, you on the app. So, if you just Google, you can find it and it has like six can find it and it has like six can find it and it has like six different breathing techniques on there different breathing techniques on there different breathing techniques on there that people do. that people do. that people do. >> I think here's a hypothesis/bet. >> I think here's a hypothesis/bet. >> I think here's a hypothesis/bet. I think that if it hasn't been I think that if it hasn't been I think that if it hasn't been demonstrated already, I haven't done a demonstrated already, I haven't done a demonstrated already, I haven't done a full like lit search for this. I think full like lit search for this. I think full like lit search for this. I think there are breathing patterns if you there are breathing patterns if you there are breathing patterns if you repeat them in the morning and at night repeat them in the morning and at night repeat them in the morning and at night twice a day roughly 12 hours apart like twice a day roughly 12 hours apart like twice a day roughly 12 hours apart like 10 to 20 minutes that you will see a lot 10 to 20 minutes that you will see a lot 10 to 20 minutes that you will see a lot of benefits for things like chronic of benefits for things like chronic of benefits for things like chronic pain. pain. pain. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I think it is I I really feel very >> I think it is I I really feel very >> I think it is I I really feel very confidently. confidently. confidently. >> So that's exciting. >> So that's exciting. >> So that's exciting. >> Yeah. Sweet. What else you got? I've got >> Yeah. Sweet. What else you got? I've got >> Yeah. Sweet. What else you got? I've got crazy things. I mean I just had my crazy things. I mean I just had my crazy things. I mean I just had my birthday a few weeks ago which is crazy birthday a few weeks ago which is crazy birthday a few weeks ago which is crazy cuz I'm marching towards 50 really cuz I'm marching towards 50 really cuz I'm marching towards 50 really quick. quick. quick. >> I know. And so are you >> I know. And so are you >> I know. And so are you >> getting dragged through the doorway with >> getting dragged through the doorway with >> getting dragged through the doorway with your fingernails leaving? your fingernails leaving? your fingernails leaving? >> It's really scary from the lenolium. >> It's really scary from the lenolium. >> It's really scary from the lenolium. >> Well, what's crazy is dude, okay, so >> Well, what's crazy is dude, okay, so >> Well, what's crazy is dude, okay, so when I first when Tim and I first when I first when Tim and I first when I first when Tim and I first started hanging out like whatever 15 started hanging out like whatever 15 started hanging out like whatever 15 years ago, 17 years ago, maybe 20 I years ago, 17 years ago, maybe 20 I years ago, 17 years ago, maybe 20 I don't even know how long close to 20 don't even know how long close to 20 don't even know how long close to 20 years ago. years ago. years ago. >> It was 20 years ago, you know, he's >> It was 20 years ago, you know, he's >> It was 20 years ago, you know, he's like, "Let me like every time you walk like, "Let me like every time you walk like, "Let me like every time you walk into Tim's house, he like tackles you into Tim's house, he like tackles you into Tim's house, he like tackles you with some kind of new jiu-jitsu move to with some kind of new jiu-jitsu move to with some kind of new jiu-jitsu move to take you down." In like the last 3 take you down." In like the last 3 take you down." In like the last 3 years, he's been carrying a ball for his years, he's been carrying a ball for his years, he's been carrying a ball for his lower back where he's like, "I can't lower back where he's like, "I can't lower back where he's like, "I can't move." And it's like old man Tim has move." And it's like old man Tim has move." And it's like old man Tim has appeared [laughter] and like that old appeared [laughter] and like that old appeared [laughter] and like that old Tim that would tackle you with a Tim that would tackle you with a Tim that would tackle you with a jiu-jitsu move is gone. jiu-jitsu move is gone. jiu-jitsu move is gone. >> The gentle art, not so gentle turns out. >> The gentle art, not so gentle turns out. >> The gentle art, not so gentle turns out. >> But I know one of the things that I want >> But I know one of the things that I want >> But I know one of the things that I want to really focus on for this next decade to really focus on for this next decade to really focus on for this next decade is balance. I balance obviously is is is balance. I balance obviously is is is balance. I balance obviously is is such a key thing and it's the number one such a key thing and it's the number one such a key thing and it's the number one way that people in their as they get way that people in their as they get way that people in their as they get older in their 60s,7s and beyond are older in their 60s,7s and beyond are older in their 60s,7s and beyond are actually permanently injured is by actually permanently injured is by actually permanently injured is by falling and breaking a hip and and falling and breaking a hip and and falling and breaking a hip and and things like that. So, two things to show things like that. So, two things to show things like that. So, two things to show off. off. off. >> Like incredible increase in risk like >> Like incredible increase in risk like >> Like incredible increase in risk like all cause mortality if you're older and all cause mortality if you're older and all cause mortality if you're older and you break a hip. you break a hip. you break a hip. >> Yes. Turns out breaking hips are not >> Yes. Turns out breaking hips are not >> Yes. Turns out breaking hips are not good. So, check this out. This one right good. So, check this out. This one right good. So, check this out. This one right here I've had for a while. here I've had for a while. here I've had for a while. >> Don't fall on your ringing ball. >> Don't fall on your ringing ball. >> Don't fall on your ringing ball. >> So, don't Can you imagine? I smash my >> So, don't Can you imagine? I smash my >> So, don't Can you imagine? I smash my face on the ringing ball. So, I'm going face on the ringing ball. So, I'm going face on the ringing ball. So, I'm going to show you how this works. Have you to show you how this works. Have you to show you how this works. Have you used this before? used this before? used this before? >> I have. Yeah. >> I have. Yeah. >> I have. Yeah. >> And so, are you good at these or no? >> And so, are you good at these or no? >> And so, are you good at these or no? >> Oh god, you're like feel like a parent >> Oh god, you're like feel like a parent >> Oh god, you're like feel like a parent watching after you. watching after you. watching after you. How well can you do the balance boards? How well can you do the balance boards? How well can you do the balance boards? >> Uh, I haven't done it in a long time. >> Uh, I haven't done it in a long time. >> Uh, I haven't done it in a long time. There's one called the Indo board, which There's one called the Indo board, which There's one called the Indo board, which I have and I've [ __ ] around with it. I I have and I've [ __ ] around with it. I I have and I've [ __ ] around with it. I don't think today is the day. Well, so don't think today is the day. Well, so don't think today is the day. Well, so check this out. So, 5 minutes a day. check this out. So, 5 minutes a day. check this out. So, 5 minutes a day. There was some research that was done There was some research that was done There was some research that was done around people with ADHD around people with ADHD around people with ADHD >> and it dramatically improve their >> and it dramatically improve their >> and it dramatically improve their symptoms, which I have a ton of. symptoms, which I have a ton of. symptoms, which I have a ton of. >> Yeah, you can't really >> Yeah, you can't really >> Yeah, you can't really >> But I want I want to know if you can do >> But I want I want to know if you can do >> But I want I want to know if you can do this. I want to I want to see if you can this. I want to I want to see if you can this. I want to I want to see if you can do the do the do the >> pay you have to pay attention if you're >> pay you have to pay attention if you're >> pay you have to pay attention if you're on this thing. on this thing. on this thing. >> Could you do these? >> Could you do these? >> Could you do these? >> I don't know. Never tried it. >> I don't know. Never tried it. >> I don't know. Never tried it. >> And then the tippy toes. So, I do 50 >> And then the tippy toes. So, I do 50 >> And then the tippy toes. So, I do 50 squats squats squats >> like this. >> like this. >> like this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And And >> And And >> And And >> I should also point out you have history >> I should also point out you have history >> I should also point out you have history as a skateboarder. as a skateboarder. as a skateboarder. >> I do. >> I do. >> I do. >> Yeah. Which helps. >> Yeah. Which helps. >> Yeah. Which helps. >> Let's see. Let's see. Tim, >> Let's see. Let's see. Tim, >> Let's see. Let's see. Tim, >> I don't know if I'm going to You'll be >> I don't know if I'm going to You'll be >> I don't know if I'm going to You'll be okay. You'll be okay. I'll hold your okay. You'll be okay. I'll hold your okay. You'll be okay. I'll hold your hand when you go up. hand when you go up. hand when you go up. >> Come on. Just give it a shot for a >> Come on. Just give it a shot for a >> Come on. Just give it a shot for a second. I want to see. second. I want to see. second. I want to see. >> I'll give you some I'll give you some >> I'll give you some I'll give you some >> I'll give you some I'll give you some depends and you give you a walker so you depends and you give you a walker so you depends and you give you a walker so you can get up there. can get up there. can get up there. >> Okay. So, one foot there. >> Okay. So, one foot there. >> Okay. So, one foot there. >> Yep. I got it. >> Yep. I got it. >> Yep. I got it. >> Jesus. Okay. >> Jesus. Okay. >> Jesus. Okay. Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. There you There. Oh, it's got [snorts] There you There. Oh, it's got [snorts] There you There. Oh, it's got [snorts] blockers so you won't slide off the end. blockers so you won't slide off the end. blockers so you won't slide off the end. Yeah. Yeah. Lean hard, right? Hard Yeah. Yeah. Lean hard, right? Hard Yeah. Yeah. Lean hard, right? Hard right. Hard on the right foot. right. Hard on the right foot. right. Hard on the right foot. >> Yeah. It's like >> Yeah. It's like >> Yeah. It's like >> It's hard, isn't it? >> It's hard, isn't it? >> It's hard, isn't it? >> Well, I'm like nervous about falling >> Well, I'm like nervous about falling >> Well, I'm like nervous about falling over. There you go. There we go. Now the over. There you go. There we go. Now the over. There you go. There we go. Now the squat. This is kind of like squat. This is kind of like squat. This is kind of like slackboarding where like you need a slackboarding where like you need a slackboarding where like you need a couple of days to get your nervous couple of days to get your nervous couple of days to get your nervous system system system >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Isn't it amazing how your nervous >> Yeah. Isn't it amazing how your nervous >> Yeah. Isn't it amazing how your nervous system adapts to it? system adapts to it? system adapts to it? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, there there's a crazy video >> So, there there's a crazy video >> So, there there's a crazy video >> people should check out. I think maybe >> people should check out. I think maybe >> people should check out. I think maybe it's not online. There's a guy named it's not online. There's a guy named it's not online. There's a guy named Jersey Gregoric had on the podcast. He's Jersey Gregoric had on the podcast. He's Jersey Gregoric had on the podcast. He's got to be 70s something right now, but got to be 70s something right now, but got to be 70s something right now, but he was 67. He could stand on one of he was 67. He could stand on one of he was 67. He could stand on one of these at 67 with a fully loaded barbell these at 67 with a fully loaded barbell these at 67 with a fully loaded barbell with like 150 200 lb. He weighs probably with like 150 200 lb. He weighs probably with like 150 200 lb. He weighs probably 130. and he could do a perfect form 130. and he could do a perfect form 130. and he could do a perfect form Olympic snatch landing with ass to heels Olympic snatch landing with ass to heels Olympic snatch landing with ass to heels and then stand back up and do and then stand back up and do and then stand back up and do repetitions. repetitions. repetitions. >> So, dude, I when I was just in Japan >> So, dude, I when I was just in Japan >> So, dude, I when I was just in Japan last week, last week, last week, >> all right, there we go. That's enough. >> all right, there we go. That's enough. >> all right, there we go. That's enough. When I was just in Japan last week, I When I was just in Japan last week, I When I was just in Japan last week, I was out there and I was I was at this was out there and I was I was at this was out there and I was I was at this event. Whoops. I was at this friend's event. Whoops. I was at this friend's event. Whoops. I was at this friend's birthday party that Tony Hawk's also birthday party that Tony Hawk's also birthday party that Tony Hawk's also friends with. I was hanging with Tony friends with. I was hanging with Tony friends with. I was hanging with Tony and he's like and he's like and he's like last time I saw Tony I was like dude how last time I saw Tony I was like dude how last time I saw Tony I was like dude how you doing because you doing because you doing because >> Tony Hawk one of the most legendary >> Tony Hawk one of the most legendary >> Tony Hawk one of the most legendary skateboards of all time for people who skateboards of all time for people who skateboards of all time for people who don't know don't know don't know >> people definitely know who Tony Hawk is >> people definitely know who Tony Hawk is >> people definitely know who Tony Hawk is but yeah you might [laughter] but yeah you might [laughter] but yeah you might [laughter] >> I mean a lot of people know who Tony >> I mean a lot of people know who Tony >> I mean a lot of people know who Tony >> so so Tony for the youngsters >> so so Tony for the youngsters >> so so Tony for the youngsters >> last time I saw him he had a cane oh >> last time I saw him he had a cane oh >> last time I saw him he had a cane oh >> and I was like this was probably like >> and I was like this was probably like >> and I was like this was probably like eight months ago or whatever and I was eight months ago or whatever and I was eight months ago or whatever and I was like dude how you doing and he's like I like dude how you doing and he's like I like dude how you doing and he's like I just got a couple screws put into my hip just got a couple screws put into my hip just got a couple screws put into my hip and you know he had this injury and I and you know he had this injury and I and you know he had this injury and I was like holy [ __ ] man. I'm like in my was like holy [ __ ] man. I'm like in my was like holy [ __ ] man. I'm like in my head I'm like a [ __ ] legend. You know head I'm like a [ __ ] legend. You know head I'm like a [ __ ] legend. You know pushing himself in his 50s to do like pushing himself in his 50s to do like pushing himself in his 50s to do like he's still doing like you know whatever he's still doing like you know whatever he's still doing like you know whatever 720s on the halfpipe and in his mid-50s 720s on the halfpipe and in his mid-50s 720s on the halfpipe and in his mid-50s like [ __ ] crazy. And I saw him up in like [ __ ] crazy. And I saw him up in like [ __ ] crazy. And I saw him up in up in Hokkaido and we're going up in Hokkaido and we're going up in Hokkaido and we're going snowboard. He's like yeah I'm going snowboard. He's like yeah I'm going snowboard. He's like yeah I'm going boarding today. He has no cane no boarding today. He has no cane no boarding today. He has no cane no nothing. And I'm like do you have pain? nothing. And I'm like do you have pain? nothing. And I'm like do you have pain? Like do you have pain? Like do you feel Like do you have pain? Like do you feel Like do you have pain? Like do you feel pain? like what what are you doing in pain? like what what are you doing in pain? like what what are you doing in your mid-50s like doing vert your mid-50s like doing vert your mid-50s like doing vert snowboarding like you know what I mean? snowboarding like you know what I mean? snowboarding like you know what I mean? And he's just like yeah he's like my my And he's just like yeah he's like my my And he's just like yeah he's like my my wife jokes that I should have a shirt wife jokes that I should have a shirt wife jokes that I should have a shirt that says like always in pain or that says like always in pain or that says like always in pain or something like that [laughter] and I was something like that [laughter] and I was something like that [laughter] and I was just like that is a some people are just like that is a some people are just like that is a some people are built like that though. built like that though. built like that though. >> Have you ever seen his shins? >> Have you ever seen his shins? >> Have you ever seen his shins? >> I'm sure they're just like he looks like >> I'm sure they're just like he looks like >> I'm sure they're just like he looks like a tie kickboxer. a tie kickboxer. a tie kickboxer. >> Yeah, exactly dude. He has been hit so >> Yeah, exactly dude. He has been hit so >> Yeah, exactly dude. He has been hit so many times by the board. It's insane. many times by the board. It's insane. many times by the board. It's insane. you and your birthday when I was at your you and your birthday when I was at your you and your birthday when I was at your birthday in New York probably about birthday in New York probably about birthday in New York probably about >> I don't know maybe 7 10 years ago you >> I don't know maybe 7 10 years ago you >> I don't know maybe 7 10 years ago you had a slack line in your backyard. had a slack line in your backyard. had a slack line in your backyard. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I couldn't do it at all. >> And I couldn't do it at all. >> And I couldn't do it at all. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> At not even one step >> At not even one step >> At not even one step >> because it is a very much a nervous >> because it is a very much a nervous >> because it is a very much a nervous system practice. system practice. system practice. >> It's a nervous system practice. >> It's a nervous system practice. >> It's a nervous system practice. >> So I found this online is like a little >> So I found this online is like a little >> So I found this online is like a little home one. Do you have one like this? home one. Do you have one like this? home one. Do you have one like this? >> That's cool. I have played around with >> That's cool. I have played around with >> That's cool. I have played around with these. The These are pretty sweet. So I these. The These are pretty sweet. So I these. The These are pretty sweet. So I have not used have not used have not used >> the smaller ones. I had one between >> the smaller ones. I had one between >> the smaller ones. I had one between trees. Same company given. [snorts] And trees. Same company given. [snorts] And trees. Same company given. [snorts] And just for people who've never played with just for people who've never played with just for people who've never played with this, if you're going to try it, don't this, if you're going to try it, don't this, if you're going to try it, don't do like an hour thinking that you're do like an hour thinking that you're do like an hour thinking that you're going to figure out in one day. You going to figure out in one day. You going to figure out in one day. You actually, my belief is you need sleep actually, my belief is you need sleep actually, my belief is you need sleep cycles for your nervous system to try to cycles for your nervous system to try to cycles for your nervous system to try to integrate it. So, you're better off integrate it. So, you're better off integrate it. So, you're better off doing a few minutes every day doing a few minutes every day doing a few minutes every day >> and gradually you'll figure it out. But >> and gradually you'll figure it out. But >> and gradually you'll figure it out. But that's cool. Very portable. So, that's cool. Very portable. So, that's cool. Very portable. So, obviously a lot easier to set up and obviously a lot easier to set up and obviously a lot easier to set up and take down than a gigantic thing between take down than a gigantic thing between take down than a gigantic thing between two trees with ratchets and everything. two trees with ratchets and everything. two trees with ratchets and everything. Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to get one Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to get one Yeah, exactly. I just wanted to get one because again on the balance front, they because again on the balance front, they because again on the balance front, they little have a little QR code there at little have a little QR code there at little have a little QR code there at the end that you scan and they give you the end that you scan and they give you the end that you scan and they give you about 20 or 30 different exercises that about 20 or 30 different exercises that about 20 or 30 different exercises that you can do with it. like the toe taps you can do with it. like the toe taps you can do with it. like the toe taps where one foot is on and you tap a toe where one foot is on and you tap a toe where one foot is on and you tap a toe on each side of the bar and like you're on each side of the bar and like you're on each side of the bar and like you're right in there's this weird thing and I right in there's this weird thing and I right in there's this weird thing and I noticed this in my kids where they got noticed this in my kids where they got noticed this in my kids where they got those little hoverboards for Christmas those little hoverboards for Christmas those little hoverboards for Christmas so they can just kind of zoom around and so they can just kind of zoom around and so they can just kind of zoom around and they're seven and eight and day one like they're seven and eight and day one like they're seven and eight and day one like eating [ __ ] you know helmets full gear eating [ __ ] you know helmets full gear eating [ __ ] you know helmets full gear and day two my youngest is just like and day two my youngest is just like and day two my youngest is just like like like like just flying over the place totally just flying over the place totally just flying over the place totally figured it out there but it took a figured it out there but it took a figured it out there but it took a couple days of that that kind of couple days of that that kind of couple days of that that kind of adaption and that muscle memory to kind adaption and that muscle memory to kind adaption and that muscle memory to kind of kick in which I think all these of kick in which I think all these of kick in which I think all these things do. But yeah, this has been things do. But yeah, this has been things do. But yeah, this has been awesome. Yeah. And for for people who awesome. Yeah. And for for people who awesome. Yeah. And for for people who might want to try slacklining, might want to try slacklining, might want to try slacklining, don't get on a slack line really far off don't get on a slack line really far off don't get on a slack line really far off the ground, number one, but a lot of the ground, number one, but a lot of the ground, number one, but a lot of rock climbing gyms have slack lines set rock climbing gyms have slack lines set rock climbing gyms have slack lines set up so you can potentially get someone to up so you can potentially get someone to up so you can potentially get someone to show you the basic ropes, pun intended, show you the basic ropes, pun intended, show you the basic ropes, pun intended, of walking on a slack line over there. of walking on a slack line over there. of walking on a slack line over there. And it's called Gibbon. Pretty sure this And it's called Gibbon. Pretty sure this And it's called Gibbon. Pretty sure this is why it's called gibbon because if you is why it's called gibbon because if you is why it's called gibbon because if you see really good slacklin liners, they see really good slacklin liners, they see really good slacklin liners, they they do this with their arms as they're they do this with their arms as they're they do this with their arms as they're walking across. And what does that look walking across. And what does that look walking across. And what does that look like? It looks like a gibbon. This like? It looks like a gibbon. This like? It looks like a gibbon. This monkey. monkey. monkey. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you can you can see footage of >> And you can you can see footage of >> And you can you can see footage of gibbons walking across like rope on gibbons walking across like rope on gibbons walking across like rope on small suspension bridges. small suspension bridges. small suspension bridges. >> Pretty fascinating stuff. So >> Pretty fascinating stuff. So >> Pretty fascinating stuff. So >> try it out. >> try it out. >> try it out. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> And you know, I'll I'll throw something >> And you know, I'll I'll throw something >> And you know, I'll I'll throw something out there. Yeah, let's do it. out there. Yeah, let's do it. out there. Yeah, let's do it. >> Because it's related to >> Because it's related to >> Because it's related to >> rock climbing. Well, a couple of things. >> rock climbing. Well, a couple of things. >> rock climbing. Well, a couple of things. since you brought it up. So, for the since you brought it up. So, for the since you brought it up. So, for the last two days, you know, we've been last two days, you know, we've been last two days, you know, we've been hanging out a little bit and you have hanging out a little bit and you have hanging out a little bit and you have not seen my little blow up Pilates ball not seen my little blow up Pilates ball not seen my little blow up Pilates ball that I usually put behind my L. that I usually put behind my L. that I usually put behind my L. >> I just mentioned it a few minutes ago. I >> I just mentioned it a few minutes ago. I >> I just mentioned it a few minutes ago. I normally do see it. Yeah, normally do see it. Yeah, normally do see it. Yeah, >> but you haven't seen it. >> but you haven't seen it. >> but you haven't seen it. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> So, what's going on? Well, it seems >> So, what's going on? Well, it seems >> So, what's going on? Well, it seems like, and this is not going to apply to like, and this is not going to apply to like, and this is not going to apply to most people, and this is a work in most people, and this is a work in most people, and this is a work in progress, so it's not definitive, but progress, so it's not definitive, but progress, so it's not definitive, but [snorts] I ended up meeting with a [snorts] I ended up meeting with a [snorts] I ended up meeting with a neurologist and surgeon in Austin, neurologist and surgeon in Austin, neurologist and surgeon in Austin, >> and you've injected baby seals stem >> and you've injected baby seals stem >> and you've injected baby seals stem cells into your spine. No, cells into your spine. No, cells into your spine. No, >> it's going to be some [ __ ] like that. >> it's going to be some [ __ ] like that. >> it's going to be some [ __ ] like that. Like, Like, Like, >> no, it's it's it might apply to a very >> no, it's it's it might apply to a very >> no, it's it's it might apply to a very very small fraction of the people who very small fraction of the people who very small fraction of the people who are actually listening to this. are actually listening to this. are actually listening to this. >> He did imaging. He used to be >> He did imaging. He used to be >> He did imaging. He used to be in a clinic where they ran trials and in a clinic where they ran trials and in a clinic where they ran trials and studies related to something called studies related to something called studies related to something called bertilotti syndrome. And bertiladotti bertilotti syndrome. And bertiladotti bertilotti syndrome. And bertiladotti syndrome is incredibly uncommon. Most syndrome is incredibly uncommon. Most syndrome is incredibly uncommon. Most specialists in his profession might see specialists in his profession might see specialists in his profession might see one or two cases in their entire one or two cases in their entire one or two cases in their entire careers, but he's seen hundreds. careers, but he's seen hundreds. careers, but he's seen hundreds. >> And he looked at my imaging and he said, >> And he looked at my imaging and he said, >> And he looked at my imaging and he said, "You may actually have berilotti "You may actually have berilotti "You may actually have berilotti syndrome." And he he pointed out they syndrome." And he he pointed out they syndrome." And he he pointed out they had very advanced imaging. It's the had very advanced imaging. It's the had very advanced imaging. It's the first time it came up. It corresponds first time it came up. It corresponds first time it came up. It corresponds perfectly to where I point to when perfectly to where I point to when perfectly to where I point to when people ask me when I have pain or where people ask me when I have pain or where people ask me when I have pain or where I have pain, excuse me. And it's it's in I have pain, excuse me. And it's it's in I have pain, excuse me. And it's it's in effect where you have a transitional effect where you have a transitional effect where you have a transitional segment. So, it's like a lumbar segment. So, it's like a lumbar segment. So, it's like a lumbar vertebrae that's behaving like a sacral vertebrae that's behaving like a sacral vertebrae that's behaving like a sacral vertebrae or vice versa. vertebrae or vice versa. vertebrae or vice versa. >> And let's just say it's like L5 and the >> And let's just say it's like L5 and the >> And let's just say it's like L5 and the the transverse processes, I think it's the transverse processes, I think it's the transverse processes, I think it's transverse processes on both, try to transverse processes on both, try to transverse processes on both, try to form a pseudo joint. So they basically form a pseudo joint. So they basically form a pseudo joint. So they basically lay on bone and [laughter] lay on bone and [laughter] lay on bone and [laughter] other material to try to create what is other material to try to create what is other material to try to create what is then called a pseudo joint. And if you then called a pseudo joint. And if you then called a pseudo joint. And if you look at [snorts] textbook cases of look at [snorts] textbook cases of look at [snorts] textbook cases of bertilotties, you're like, "Yeah, of bertilotties, you're like, "Yeah, of bertilotties, you're like, "Yeah, of course that's going to hurt your low course that's going to hurt your low course that's going to hurt your low back." back." back." >> And as a way of testing the hypothesis, >> And as a way of testing the hypothesis, >> And as a way of testing the hypothesis, he said, "Well, let's before we even he said, "Well, let's before we even he said, "Well, let's before we even consider any interventions, let's try to consider any interventions, let's try to consider any interventions, let's try to hone in on whether [clears throat] that hone in on whether [clears throat] that hone in on whether [clears throat] that is accurate or not as a diagnosis." The is accurate or not as a diagnosis." The is accurate or not as a diagnosis." The way we'll do that is there are some way we'll do that is there are some way we'll do that is there are some nerves that affect that area nerves that affect that area nerves that affect that area specifically. There's no like radiating specifically. There's no like radiating specifically. There's no like radiating effect or anything down the leg. Let's effect or anything down the leg. Let's effect or anything down the leg. Let's put in effectively a nerve block and put in effectively a nerve block and put in effectively a nerve block and then see what happens. Like we'll we'll then see what happens. Like we'll we'll then see what happens. Like we'll we'll put in a nerve block. What does a nerve put in a nerve block. What does a nerve put in a nerve block. What does a nerve block? block? block? >> Basically stops the area from >> Basically stops the area from >> Basically stops the area from transmitting pain signals. transmitting pain signals. transmitting pain signals. >> But like what does it mean though? What >> But like what does it mean though? What >> But like what does it mean though? What when you put in a nerve block? when you put in a nerve block? when you put in a nerve block? >> Well, you you lay down in my case on >> Well, you you lay down in my case on >> Well, you you lay down in my case on your face. I hate when anyone is messing your face. I hate when anyone is messing your face. I hate when anyone is messing with my spine, man. It's like very I've with my spine, man. It's like very I've with my spine, man. It's like very I've had so many things done to me and I'm had so many things done to me and I'm had so many things done to me and I'm usually cool as a cucumber, but when usually cool as a cucumber, but when usually cool as a cucumber, but when needles are like in or around my spine, needles are like in or around my spine, needles are like in or around my spine, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> I really get the fear sweats. I don't >> I really get the fear sweats. I don't >> I really get the fear sweats. I don't like it at all. But in this case, that like it at all. But in this case, that like it at all. But in this case, that was was was >> required. So, you get a in this case it >> required. So, you get a in this case it >> required. So, you get a in this case it was I think it was lidocaine, small was I think it was lidocaine, small was I think it was lidocaine, small amount of lidocaine to numb the surface. amount of lidocaine to numb the surface. amount of lidocaine to numb the surface. >> Then they're going through quite a bit >> Then they're going through quite a bit >> Then they're going through quite a bit of deep musculature. So they go in and of deep musculature. So they go in and of deep musculature. So they go in and then they're putting in and in in this then they're putting in and in in this then they're putting in and in in this case and obviously you need specialists case and obviously you need specialists case and obviously you need specialists for this who the baby seal for this who the baby seal for this who the baby seal >> prolocca they have baby seal semen um no >> prolocca they have baby seal semen um no >> prolocca they have baby seal semen um no it was prolocane and something called it was prolocane and something called it was prolocane and something called kennalog and but none none of those kennalog and but none none of those kennalog and but none none of those specifics are the punch line the punch specifics are the punch line the punch specifics are the punch line the punch line is he's after he did the injection line is he's after he did the injection line is he's after he did the injection he said okay this particular portion of he said okay this particular portion of he said okay this particular portion of the cocktail is going to last 18 hours the cocktail is going to last 18 hours the cocktail is going to last 18 hours and then you're going to get probably and then you're going to get probably and then you're going to get probably two weeks of effect from the kennel two weeks of effect from the kennel two weeks of effect from the kennel something like that which is a cortisone something like that which is a cortisone something like that which is a cortisone on shot basically. And he said, "I want on shot basically. And he said, "I want on shot basically. And he said, "I want you to do all of the things that you you to do all of the things that you you to do all of the things that you think will most piss off your back. Like think will most piss off your back. Like think will most piss off your back. Like all the things you've been avoiding, all the things you've been avoiding, all the things you've been avoiding, which for me are sitting on hard which for me are sitting on hard which for me are sitting on hard surfaces, surfaces, surfaces, sitting with a slightly flexed back, sitting with a slightly flexed back, sitting with a slightly flexed back, like if you're sitting on a bar stool like if you're sitting on a bar stool like if you're sitting on a bar stool and you're kind of like this, and you're kind of like this, and you're kind of like this, >> any of those, stretching in that >> any of those, stretching in that >> any of those, stretching in that position, sitting on the floor with the position, sitting on the floor with the position, sitting on the floor with the dogs, certainly things like heavy dogs, certainly things like heavy dogs, certainly things like heavy deadlifts, squats. So I did all of that deadlifts, squats. So I did all of that deadlifts, squats. So I did all of that stuff for three days straight. zero stuff for three days straight. zero stuff for three days straight. zero pain. And I'm like, "Holy shit." After pain. And I'm like, "Holy shit." After pain. And I'm like, "Holy shit." After having so many specialists from having so many specialists from having so many specialists from different disciplines say like, "Yeah, I different disciplines say like, "Yeah, I different disciplines say like, "Yeah, I know you point to that, but that's not know you point to that, but that's not know you point to that, but that's not the spot. It's actually because there's the spot. It's actually because there's the spot. It's actually because there's referral pain from this, this, or this." referral pain from this, this, or this." referral pain from this, this, or this." And just having so many people dismiss And just having so many people dismiss And just having so many people dismiss how precisely I could point to where I how precisely I could point to where I how precisely I could point to where I felt the most pain, felt the most pain, felt the most pain, >> which which was consistent over years. >> which which was consistent over years. >> which which was consistent over years. And for the first time, he's like, if we And for the first time, he's like, if we And for the first time, he's like, if we look at the imaging right here, it is look at the imaging right here, it is look at the imaging right here, it is exactly where you were grinding with exactly where you were grinding with exactly where you were grinding with your finger. your finger. your finger. >> So, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic. I >> So, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic. I >> So, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic. I mean, mean, mean, >> dude, that's amazing. >> dude, that's amazing. >> dude, that's amazing. >> This is the first time in six years. >> This is the first time in six years. >> This is the first time in six years. Also, just like you have there are Also, just like you have there are Also, just like you have there are different tools that work for different different tools that work for different different tools that work for different people. Sometimes it requires multiple people. Sometimes it requires multiple people. Sometimes it requires multiple tools. A lot of people have benefited tools. A lot of people have benefited tools. A lot of people have benefited from the work of John Sarno. from the work of John Sarno. from the work of John Sarno. But that school for instance in effect But that school for instance in effect But that school for instance in effect says says says none of the imaging really maps to none of the imaging really maps to none of the imaging really maps to symptoms. Well, it's all in your head. symptoms. Well, it's all in your head. symptoms. Well, it's all in your head. So do cognitive training and So do cognitive training and So do cognitive training and reconditioning to solve it because reconditioning to solve it because reconditioning to solve it because >> that's the guy that Howard Stern got his >> that's the guy that Howard Stern got his >> that's the guy that Howard Stern got his back problems fixed through. Right. back problems fixed through. Right. back problems fixed through. Right. >> It might be a lot of people benefit from >> It might be a lot of people benefit from >> It might be a lot of people benefit from that stuff. that stuff. that stuff. >> But it's also infuriating to be told >> But it's also infuriating to be told >> But it's also infuriating to be told like every type of back pain is in your like every type of back pain is in your like every type of back pain is in your head. I'm like, really? If I took a head. I'm like, really? If I took a head. I'm like, really? If I took a ballpeen hammer and smashed one of your ballpeen hammer and smashed one of your ballpeen hammer and smashed one of your vertebrae, that would be in your head. vertebrae, that would be in your head. vertebrae, that would be in your head. Like, I guess technically since the Like, I guess technically since the Like, I guess technically since the brain is governing pain, like fine. brain is governing pain, like fine. brain is governing pain, like fine. >> But this is the first time with a very >> But this is the first time with a very >> But this is the first time with a very simp relatively simple simp relatively simple simp relatively simple >> but precise intervention. >> but precise intervention. >> but precise intervention. I guess it's been about 5 days. It's I guess it's been about 5 days. It's I guess it's been about 5 days. It's like I can do everything with no pain. like I can do everything with no pain. like I can do everything with no pain. So, So, So, >> dude, that's amazing. >> dude, that's amazing. >> dude, that's amazing. >> So, what does that mean? Well, >> So, what does that mean? Well, >> So, what does that mean? Well, >> could be the cortisol shot. That's the >> could be the cortisol shot. That's the >> could be the cortisol shot. That's the one thing that's like one thing that's like one thing that's like >> Well, that's that is probably had that >> Well, that's that is probably had that >> Well, that's that is probably had that before, right? Or no, before, right? Or no, before, right? Or no, >> no, I haven't. But but here's the thing. >> no, I haven't. But but here's the thing. >> no, I haven't. But but here's the thing. So that that's going to have So that that's going to have So that that's going to have >> anti-inflammatory >> anti-inflammatory >> anti-inflammatory >> a different Yeah. anti-inflammatory. >> a different Yeah. anti-inflammatory. >> a different Yeah. anti-inflammatory. It's also going to basically kind of, It's also going to basically kind of, It's also going to basically kind of, for lack of a better term, like puff up for lack of a better term, like puff up for lack of a better term, like puff up the pseudo joint in a way that sort of the pseudo joint in a way that sort of the pseudo joint in a way that sort of reverses the chronological reverses the chronological reverses the chronological age or development of that in some ways age or development of that in some ways age or development of that in some ways from a symptom perspective. But the the from a symptom perspective. But the the from a symptom perspective. But the the this this is where I I'll offer people this this is where I I'll offer people this this is where I I'll offer people something they can potentially look into something they can potentially look into something they can potentially look into obviously with the help of really really obviously with the help of really really obviously with the help of really really really good doctors. really good doctors. really good doctors. If that shot continues to deliver If that shot continues to deliver If that shot continues to deliver benefits and I can do all these things benefits and I can do all these things benefits and I can do all these things painfree which is the case right now painfree which is the case right now painfree which is the case right now then there's something called radio then there's something called radio then there's something called radio frequency ablation RFA which is used to frequency ablation RFA which is used to frequency ablation RFA which is used to in this case temporarily completely in this case temporarily completely in this case temporarily completely incapacitate those nerves. M incapacitate those nerves. M incapacitate those nerves. M >> so they go in they apply radio frequency >> so they go in they apply radio frequency >> so they go in they apply radio frequency ablation and that should last for like a ablation and that should last for like a ablation and that should last for like a year a year and a half hopefully and the year a year and a half hopefully and the year a year and a half hopefully and the hope in that case is okay with a year hope in that case is okay with a year hope in that case is okay with a year year and a half and I already spoke you year and a half and I already spoke you year and a half and I already spoke you know I've spoken to multiple people and know I've spoken to multiple people and know I've spoken to multiple people and they're like yeah it shouldn't even if they're like yeah it shouldn't even if they're like yeah it shouldn't even if you you you resume a lot of your activities and resume a lot of your activities and resume a lot of your activities and stair step into it that previously stair step into it that previously stair step into it that previously caused pain you shouldn't structurally caused pain you shouldn't structurally caused pain you shouldn't structurally make that worse right that was a concern make that worse right that was a concern make that worse right that was a concern >> and I think that's an enough of a period >> and I think that's an enough of a period >> and I think that's an enough of a period of time where you could effectively of time where you could effectively of time where you could effectively reprogram reprogram reprogram your pain patterning, right? Because for your pain patterning, right? Because for your pain patterning, right? Because for years now, it's like if I sit on a hard years now, it's like if I sit on a hard years now, it's like if I sit on a hard surface, my brain is like code red, surface, my brain is like code red, surface, my brain is like code red, defcon 5, like you are about to not be defcon 5, like you are about to not be defcon 5, like you are about to not be able to sleep for six to seven days. able to sleep for six to seven days. able to sleep for six to seven days. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're going to have trouble walking >> And you're going to have trouble walking >> And you're going to have trouble walking and sitting and standing. and sitting and standing. and sitting and standing. >> So, super exciting. >> So, super exciting. >> So, super exciting. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> All right. So, you mind if I continue my >> All right. So, you mind if I continue my >> All right. So, you mind if I continue my TED talk for a second? TED talk for a second? TED talk for a second? >> All right. So, uh also >> All right. So, uh also >> All right. So, uh also >> [gasps] >> [gasps] >> [gasps] >> had long overdue surgery. I think I >> had long overdue surgery. I think I >> had long overdue surgery. I think I might have talked about this last time, might have talked about this last time, might have talked about this last time, but on my extensors, right? So, the but on my extensors, right? So, the but on my extensors, right? So, the forearm extensors. So, this would be forearm extensors. So, this would be forearm extensors. So, this would be considered like tennis elbow. considered like tennis elbow. considered like tennis elbow. >> Oh god. Like 20 plus years overdue from >> Oh god. Like 20 plus years overdue from >> Oh god. Like 20 plus years overdue from a sports injury. a sports injury. a sports injury. >> And I'm back to rock climbing. I'm not >> And I'm back to rock climbing. I'm not >> And I'm back to rock climbing. I'm not great at rock climbing, but I love it. I great at rock climbing, but I love it. I great at rock climbing, but I love it. I just love rock climbing. Feeling really just love rock climbing. Feeling really just love rock climbing. Feeling really good. And if people have never seen good. And if people have never seen good. And if people have never seen something called Abra Hangs, so like something called Abra Hangs, so like something called Abra Hangs, so like Abraham, but Abra Hangs, go on YouTube, Abraham, but Abra Hangs, go on YouTube, Abraham, but Abra Hangs, go on YouTube, find this Swedish rock climber named find this Swedish rock climber named find this Swedish rock climber named Emil Abrahen. So Abraham Sun, S SO N. He Emil Abrahen. So Abraham Sun, S SO N. He Emil Abrahen. So Abraham Sun, S SO N. He is a monster. Very competent rock is a monster. Very competent rock is a monster. Very competent rock climber. Does like V13 problems and climber. Does like V13 problems and climber. Does like V13 problems and probably much more. incredible explainer probably much more. incredible explainer probably much more. incredible explainer of things and dives into a lot of of things and dives into a lot of of things and dives into a lot of training. And he along with the help of training. And he along with the help of training. And he along with the help of this scientist named Keith Bar, B A R, this scientist named Keith Bar, B A R, this scientist named Keith Bar, B A R, who I've actually had on the podcast, who I've actually had on the podcast, who I've actually had on the podcast, developed or tested this protocol for developed or tested this protocol for developed or tested this protocol for improving tendon strength. And it is the improving tendon strength. And it is the improving tendon strength. And it is the simplest, lowest impact thing you can simplest, lowest impact thing you can simplest, lowest impact thing you can imagine. It's basically 10 minutes twice imagine. It's basically 10 minutes twice imagine. It's basically 10 minutes twice a day. a day. a day. >> And he does a bunch on a hangboard, but >> And he does a bunch on a hangboard, but >> And he does a bunch on a hangboard, but let's keep it simple. Let's say you're let's keep it simple. Let's say you're let's keep it simple. Let's say you're hanging on could be a pull-up bar, could hanging on could be a pull-up bar, could hanging on could be a pull-up bar, could be a door jam, could be, you know, the be a door jam, could be, you know, the be a door jam, could be, you know, the the underside of some stairs, whatever. the underside of some stairs, whatever. the underside of some stairs, whatever. And he's hanging with like 30 to 85% of And he's hanging with like 30 to 85% of And he's hanging with like 30 to 85% of his weight. So, his feet are still on his weight. So, his feet are still on his weight. So, his feet are still on the floor. the floor. the floor. >> Does that for 10 seconds on, 50 seconds >> Does that for 10 seconds on, 50 seconds >> Does that for 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off, off, off, >> 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off, and you >> 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off, and you >> 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off, and you do it 10 times. That's 10 minutes. And do it 10 times. That's 10 minutes. And do it 10 times. That's 10 minutes. And then you do it again later in the day. then you do it again later in the day. then you do it again later in the day. and his before and after strength and and his before and after strength and and his before and after strength and endurance tests endurance tests endurance tests >> are mind-blowing. This is already a guy >> are mind-blowing. This is already a guy >> are mind-blowing. This is already a guy who we could say is a high level climber who we could say is a high level climber who we could say is a high level climber and to see like the before and after is and to see like the before and after is and to see like the before and after is crazy. So, you don't always have to kill crazy. So, you don't always have to kill crazy. So, you don't always have to kill yourself to adapt in really really yourself to adapt in really really yourself to adapt in really really interesting ways. interesting ways. interesting ways. >> And that's something I've really really >> And that's something I've really really >> And that's something I've really really benefited from. But the low back has benefited from. But the low back has benefited from. But the low back has been a limiter, right, for like the last been a limiter, right, for like the last been a limiter, right, for like the last few months few months few months >> because hanging from a bar, if I don't >> because hanging from a bar, if I don't >> because hanging from a bar, if I don't engage the abs, it could cause some engage the abs, it could cause some engage the abs, it could cause some issues with the low back and spasming. issues with the low back and spasming. issues with the low back and spasming. >> So, I bought this thing recommended by a >> So, I bought this thing recommended by a >> So, I bought this thing recommended by a friend of mine, Nick Norris, who's also friend of mine, Nick Norris, who's also friend of mine, Nick Norris, who's also been on the podcast, former Navy Seal, been on the podcast, former Navy Seal, been on the podcast, former Navy Seal, called the Nug. And the Nug is it's called the Nug. And the Nug is it's called the Nug. And the Nug is it's about the size of like a gigantic bar of about the size of like a gigantic bar of about the size of like a gigantic bar of soap. It's a piece of wood, and it has soap. It's a piece of wood, and it has soap. It's a piece of wood, and it has different depths of grips on it. It's different depths of grips on it. It's different depths of grips on it. It's like 25 millimeters, 20 millimeters, and like 25 millimeters, 20 millimeters, and like 25 millimeters, 20 millimeters, and you can move it around really easily. you can move it around really easily. you can move it around really easily. And basically, like you could keep it in And basically, like you could keep it in And basically, like you could keep it in a jacket pocket. And as long as you have a jacket pocket. And as long as you have a jacket pocket. And as long as you have a carabiner, like one of those things a carabiner, like one of those things a carabiner, like one of those things that kind of clicks on, that kind of clicks on, that kind of clicks on, >> you you can do all sorts of exercises >> you you can do all sorts of exercises >> you you can do all sorts of exercises while you're traveling. while you're traveling. while you're traveling. >> And at home, I have basically [snorts] a >> And at home, I have basically [snorts] a >> And at home, I have basically [snorts] a >> a plate loading pin that you can load >> a plate loading pin that you can load >> a plate loading pin that you can load plates on. Yeah, exactly. So that you plates on. Yeah, exactly. So that you plates on. Yeah, exactly. So that you can basically do like a singlehanded can basically do like a singlehanded can basically do like a singlehanded deadlift. And so this is the same as deadlift. And so this is the same as deadlift. And so this is the same as essentially doing the hanging board. essentially doing the hanging board. essentially doing the hanging board. >> It's it's similar, right? You're going >> It's it's similar, right? You're going >> It's it's similar, right? You're going to be I'm looking for the same kind of to be I'm looking for the same kind of to be I'm looking for the same kind of loading. But what you can also do is loading. But what you can also do is loading. But what you can also do is take this thing that you can fit in your take this thing that you can fit in your take this thing that you can fit in your pocket and attach it to like a low cable pocket and attach it to like a low cable pocket and attach it to like a low cable machine. That's what I was doing in machine. That's what I was doing in machine. That's what I was doing in Santa Fe, actually. Santa Fe, actually. Santa Fe, actually. >> Oh, that's cool. >> Oh, that's cool. >> Oh, that's cool. >> And just like get the weight off the >> And just like get the weight off the >> And just like get the weight off the ground, you know, the stack off of the ground, you know, the stack off of the ground, you know, the stack off of the resting position. And then I was doing resting position. And then I was doing resting position. And then I was doing 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off. 10 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off. 10 10 seconds on, 50 seconds off. 10 seconds on, 50 seconds. seconds on, 50 seconds. seconds on, 50 seconds. >> And you only have one of these? >> And you only have one of these? >> And you only have one of these? >> Yeah, because I'll do one hand and then >> Yeah, because I'll do one hand and then >> Yeah, because I'll do one hand and then I'll do the other. like 10 seconds, 10 I'll do the other. like 10 seconds, 10 I'll do the other. like 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 40 second rest. 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 40 second rest. 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 40 second rest. 10 seconds, 10 seconds, 40 second rest. seconds, 40 second rest. seconds, 40 second rest. >> And I think a lot Yeah. the the website >> And I think a lot Yeah. the the website >> And I think a lot Yeah. the the website is fictitious climbing. It doesn't is fictitious climbing. It doesn't is fictitious climbing. It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but like exactly roll off the tongue, but like exactly roll off the tongue, but like friction, fictitious climbing. They have friction, fictitious climbing. They have friction, fictitious climbing. They have the nug. They have a bunch of other the nug. They have a bunch of other the nug. They have a bunch of other items that you can use while traveling items that you can use while traveling items that you can use while traveling for this, which are really, really for this, which are really, really for this, which are really, really interesting. So, that's another one that interesting. So, that's another one that interesting. So, that's another one that I've been traveling with. I'll let you I've been traveling with. I'll let you I've been traveling with. I'll let you go and then go and then go and then >> Yeah, this is awesome. >> Yeah, this is awesome. >> Yeah, this is awesome. >> Yeah, it's it's just a fun little tool >> Yeah, it's it's just a fun little tool >> Yeah, it's it's just a fun little tool to play with. Do not overdo finger to play with. Do not overdo finger to play with. Do not overdo finger training. You do not want to tear a training. You do not want to tear a training. You do not want to tear a pulley or something in your fingers. So, pulley or something in your fingers. So, pulley or something in your fingers. So, less is more. Less is more. Less is less is more. Less is more. Less is less is more. Less is more. Less is more. This is I guess something like 30 more. This is I guess something like 30 more. This is I guess something like 30 to 85% of body weight. Uh and if to 85% of body weight. Uh and if to 85% of body weight. Uh and if obviously, or maybe it's not obvious, if obviously, or maybe it's not obvious, if obviously, or maybe it's not obvious, if you're [clears throat] doing that's with you're [clears throat] doing that's with you're [clears throat] doing that's with two hands. So, if you're doing it with two hands. So, if you're doing it with two hands. So, if you're doing it with one hand, it's going to be, you know, 15 one hand, it's going to be, you know, 15 one hand, it's going to be, you know, 15 to 40%. That's amazing. to 40%. That's amazing. to 40%. That's amazing. >> Well, this is cool. Thanks. I already >> Well, this is cool. Thanks. I already >> Well, this is cool. Thanks. I already just ordered by the time you're done just ordered by the time you're done just ordered by the time you're done talking about it. talking about it. talking about it. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's It's fun to play with. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's It's fun to play with. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's It's fun to play with. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> What you got? >> What you got? >> What you got? >> Yeah. So, I've got a couple things. One, >> Yeah. So, I've got a couple things. One, >> Yeah. So, I've got a couple things. One, I was hanging with Craig Mod in Japan. I was hanging with Craig Mod in Japan. I was hanging with Craig Mod in Japan. And you've had Craig on the show before. And you've had Craig on the show before. And you've had Craig on the show before. >> Craig, amazing. Amazing guy. >> Craig, amazing. Amazing guy. >> Craig, amazing. Amazing guy. >> I don't think there's anybody that >> I don't think there's anybody that >> I don't think there's anybody that understands like Japan the way that understands like Japan the way that understands like Japan the way that Craig does, like in terms of the back Craig does, like in terms of the back Craig does, like in terms of the back country and just like the little country and just like the little country and just like the little artisans and all the stuff that he's artisans and all the stuff that he's artisans and all the stuff that he's into. Craig has walked I probably fair into. Craig has walked I probably fair into. Craig has walked I probably fair to say like thousands of miles of to say like thousands of miles of to say like thousands of miles of different trails and pilgrimage paths in different trails and pilgrimage paths in different trails and pilgrimage paths in Japan. He's Japan. He's Japan. He's >> it's very likely he has walked more of >> it's very likely he has walked more of >> it's very likely he has walked more of Japan on foot than any other person. Japan on foot than any other person. Japan on foot than any other person. >> Yeah. So he was out here >> Yeah. So he was out here >> Yeah. So he was out here >> visiting. He actually stayed in this >> visiting. He actually stayed in this >> visiting. He actually stayed in this house for a week when he was out here in house for a week when he was out here in house for a week when he was out here in LA. And I walked in and he's got all his LA. And I walked in and he's got all his LA. And I walked in and he's got all his little toiletries like sitting out, you little toiletries like sitting out, you little toiletries like sitting out, you know? know? know? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I'm always like it's like sitting >> And I'm always like it's like sitting >> And I'm always like it's like sitting out. He puts it all in Japanese order out. He puts it all in Japanese order out. He puts it all in Japanese order where it's like got a little nice little where it's like got a little nice little where it's like got a little nice little cloth and it's got like all this [ __ ] cloth and it's got like all this [ __ ] cloth and it's got like all this [ __ ] like dresses like a Japanese person. like dresses like a Japanese person. like dresses like a Japanese person. >> I know. I know. [laughter] I know. So, I >> I know. I know. [laughter] I know. So, I >> I know. I know. [laughter] I know. So, I mean, he's lived it for 25 years, so mean, he's lived it for 25 years, so mean, he's lived it for 25 years, so that kind of makes sense. that kind of makes sense. that kind of makes sense. >> But I saw his toothbrush and I was like, >> But I saw his toothbrush and I was like, >> But I saw his toothbrush and I was like, that is a dope looking toothbrush. that is a dope looking toothbrush. that is a dope looking toothbrush. >> And I got you one. >> And I got you one. >> And I got you one. >> Oh, wow. Look at this. >> Oh, wow. Look at this. >> Oh, wow. Look at this. >> So, you can get these on Amazon. It's >> So, you can get these on Amazon. It's >> So, you can get these on Amazon. It's got a really wide head. He said it's his got a really wide head. He said it's his got a really wide head. He said it's his favorite Japanese toothbrush. favorite Japanese toothbrush. favorite Japanese toothbrush. >> So, so for people who can't see it, it's >> So, so for people who can't see it, it's >> So, so for people who can't see it, it's like the toothbrush bristles are almost like the toothbrush bristles are almost like the toothbrush bristles are almost in a square, right? I mean, it's very in a square, right? I mean, it's very in a square, right? I mean, it's very square like as opposed to being more square like as opposed to being more square like as opposed to being more elongated. And so, you get three of elongated. And so, you get three of elongated. And so, you get three of these for $11.50 on Amazon. And what these for $11.50 on Amazon. And what these for $11.50 on Amazon. And what does it say in Japanese? does it say in Japanese? does it say in Japanese? >> Premium care. >> Premium care. >> Premium care. >> Premium premium care >> Premium premium care >> Premium premium care >> from Premium Care. >> from Premium Care. >> from Premium Care. >> Old Toaster here. >> Old Toaster here. >> Old Toaster here. >> Premium buddy. >> Premium buddy. >> Premium buddy. >> Hey, buddy. Like an old man toast. >> Hey, buddy. Like an old man toast. >> Hey, buddy. Like an old man toast. >> I was just I was just saying hi to him >> I was just I was just saying hi to him >> I was just I was just saying hi to him earlier. This is Toaster now 15. You earlier. This is Toaster now 15. You earlier. This is Toaster now 15. You know, I was just saying to Daria that know, I was just saying to Daria that know, I was just saying to Daria that the last time we did a podcast sitting the last time we did a podcast sitting the last time we did a podcast sitting on a couch was at your place in San on a couch was at your place in San on a couch was at your place in San Francisco back when Toaster was a puppy Francisco back when Toaster was a puppy Francisco back when Toaster was a puppy and he chewed through the cable, the XLR and he chewed through the cable, the XLR and he chewed through the cable, the XLR cables on the Zoom. cables on the Zoom. cables on the Zoom. >> That's right, buddy. >> That's right, buddy. >> That's right, buddy. >> Yeah. He [snorts] can't hear anything >> Yeah. He [snorts] can't hear anything >> Yeah. He [snorts] can't hear anything anymore. And sadly, his his back legs anymore. And sadly, his his back legs anymore. And sadly, his his back legs are falling out from underneath him now. are falling out from underneath him now. are falling out from underneath him now. But But But >> look at that. He's still a good dude. >> look at that. He's still a good dude. >> look at that. He's still a good dude. >> I feel like you recognize me cuz I've >> I feel like you recognize me cuz I've >> I feel like you recognize me cuz I've seen him so many times. seen him so many times. seen him so many times. >> Oh, for sure. >> Oh, for sure. >> Oh, for sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What a sweetheart. >> What a sweetheart. >> What a sweetheart. >> He's such a good boy. >> He's such a good boy. >> He's such a good boy. >> So, yes. Premium care. Yes. Yes. I got >> So, yes. Premium care. Yes. Yes. I got >> So, yes. Premium care. Yes. Yes. I got you one of those and like there's a you one of those and like there's a you one of those and like there's a threeack for $1.50. I think it's great. threeack for $1.50. I think it's great. threeack for $1.50. I think it's great. It's fantastic toothbrush. It's fantastic toothbrush. It's fantastic toothbrush. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I dig it. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Cool. I dig it. Thank you. >> Speaking of all things Japanese. >> Speaking of all things Japanese. >> Speaking of all things Japanese. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So, >> So, >> So, I I I am hesitant to give this up. So, if you am hesitant to give this up. So, if you am hesitant to give this up. So, if you want to get if you want to get a loan want to get if you want to get a loan want to get if you want to get a loan stock, only one left. stock, only one left. stock, only one left. >> Well, hold on. Let me tell you why. So, >> Well, hold on. Let me tell you why. So, >> Well, hold on. Let me tell you why. So, first of all, check this out. first of all, check this out. first of all, check this out. Check out this jacket. Check out this jacket. Check out this jacket. Cool. All right. Oh, nice. You feel how Cool. All right. Oh, nice. You feel how Cool. All right. Oh, nice. You feel how heavy that is. heavy that is. heavy that is. >> Feels like a almost like a I know what >> Feels like a almost like a I know what >> Feels like a almost like a I know what this is. I know what this is. So, this this is. I know what this is. So, this this is. I know what this is. So, this is this is a fireman's jacket in Japan. is this is a fireman's jacket in Japan. is this is a fireman's jacket in Japan. >> And this is a a heavy like dope >> And this is a a heavy like dope >> And this is a a heavy like dope fireman's jacket. It's vintage. fireman's jacket. It's vintage. fireman's jacket. It's vintage. >> Probably hard to rip. >> Probably hard to rip. >> Probably hard to rip. >> Like the 1970s. >> Like the 1970s. >> Like the 1970s. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> And so I found a store on Etsy. How did >> And so I found a store on Etsy. How did >> And so I found a store on Etsy. How did you even think to look for this? Because you even think to look for this? Because you even think to look for this? Because I love this style of jacket. I love this style of jacket. I love this style of jacket. >> Fireman vintage Japanese fireman jacket. >> Fireman vintage Japanese fireman jacket. >> Fireman vintage Japanese fireman jacket. I just typed in like Japanese jacket on I just typed in like Japanese jacket on I just typed in like Japanese jacket on Etsy. And so this importer Etsy. And so this importer Etsy. And so this importer >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> they import like the coolest [snorts] >> they import like the coolest [snorts] >> they import like the coolest [snorts] vintage Japanese vintage Japanese vintage Japanese >> everything from jackets to >> everything from jackets to >> everything from jackets to like you know how they used to do that like you know how they used to do that like you know how they used to do that patch mill kind of work where they take patch mill kind of work where they take patch mill kind of work where they take stuff they would like patch quilts out stuff they would like patch quilts out stuff they would like patch quilts out of out of old material. Yeah. of out of old material. Yeah. of out of old material. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, like everything from like >> Yeah. So, like everything from like >> Yeah. So, like everything from like little tiny shrines to wicker baskets. little tiny shrines to wicker baskets. little tiny shrines to wicker baskets. Like, dude, check out the store. Let me Like, dude, check out the store. Let me Like, dude, check out the store. Let me just show you the store real quick. And just show you the store real quick. And just show you the store real quick. And the only reason I'm plugging it is in the only reason I'm plugging it is in the only reason I'm plugging it is in vintage Japanese indigo dyed Kindo vintage Japanese indigo dyed Kindo vintage Japanese indigo dyed Kindo jacket. jacket. jacket. >> So, they got all the little dolls. >> So, they got all the little dolls. >> So, they got all the little dolls. They've got Look at these different They've got Look at these different They've got Look at these different types of indigo dyed kind of blankets. types of indigo dyed kind of blankets. types of indigo dyed kind of blankets. And And And >> so, what's what's the seller? >> so, what's what's the seller? >> so, what's what's the seller? >> The the seller is just an importer from >> The the seller is just an importer from >> The the seller is just an importer from Japan. Exporter. No, I will. Japan. Exporter. No, I will. Japan. Exporter. No, I will. >> So, he Well, here's the deal. It's so >> So, he Well, here's the deal. It's so >> So, he Well, here's the deal. It's so inexpensive. Like in the States, if you inexpensive. Like in the States, if you inexpensive. Like in the States, if you were to buy this jacket from a a were to buy this jacket from a a were to buy this jacket from a a designer called Vizom, which is like a designer called Vizom, which is like a designer called Vizom, which is like a well-known Japanese designer, this style well-known Japanese designer, this style well-known Japanese designer, this style of jacket would be Gosh, I mean, it of jacket would be Gosh, I mean, it of jacket would be Gosh, I mean, it would probably be $2,500. would probably be $2,500. would probably be $2,500. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> For that jacket, >> For that jacket, >> For that jacket, >> more expensive than my car. >> more expensive than my car. >> more expensive than my car. >> They No, it's [laughter] not. They they >> They No, it's [laughter] not. They they >> They No, it's [laughter] not. They they sell these jackets on there for Here's sell these jackets on there for Here's sell these jackets on there for Here's one for $92. Like, look at this vintage one for $92. Like, look at this vintage one for $92. Like, look at this vintage 1960s jacket. $92. 1960s jacket. $92. 1960s jacket. $92. >> Oh, that's cool. Oh, watch out, buddy. >> Oh, that's cool. Oh, watch out, buddy. >> Oh, that's cool. Oh, watch out, buddy. >> Okay, bud. He's kind of needs a little >> Okay, bud. He's kind of needs a little >> Okay, bud. He's kind of needs a little help. I don't think you're ready for help. I don't think you're ready for help. I don't think you're ready for this slackboard, my friend. this slackboard, my friend. this slackboard, my friend. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Yeah, there you go. >> Okay. I know. I know. I mean, that >> Okay. I know. I know. I mean, that >> Okay. I know. I know. I mean, that jacket's do Oh, but I just wanted to jacket's do Oh, but I just wanted to jacket's do Oh, but I just wanted to give this out there because I I think if give this out there because I I think if give this out there because I I think if you're looking to buy vintage fun things you're looking to buy vintage fun things you're looking to buy vintage fun things in You can't score. in You can't score. in You can't score. >> I know. I know. I know. I'm being an >> I know. I know. I know. I'm being an >> I know. I know. I know. I'm being an idiot. idiot. idiot. >> If you're looking for just various >> If you're looking for just various >> If you're looking for just various objects around your house that are objects around your house that are objects around your house that are vintage from Japan, this place is vintage from Japan, this place is vintage from Japan, this place is insanely inexpensive for all different insanely inexpensive for all different insanely inexpensive for all different types of things. types of things. types of things. >> Blue Heritage Japan. >> Blue Heritage Japan. >> Blue Heritage Japan. >> Yeah. So, the the Etsy name is Blue >> Yeah. So, the the Etsy name is Blue >> Yeah. So, the the Etsy name is Blue Heritage Japan. Heritage Japan. Heritage Japan. >> 4.9 stars, thousands of reviews. >> 4.9 stars, thousands of reviews. >> 4.9 stars, thousands of reviews. >> But look at some of the stuff. >> But look at some of the stuff. >> But look at some of the stuff. >> Yeah, that's cool. These kind of hanging >> Yeah, that's cool. These kind of hanging >> Yeah, that's cool. These kind of hanging tapestries for stores and stuff. Those tapestries for stores and stuff. Those tapestries for stores and stuff. Those are [clears throat] fun. are [clears throat] fun. are [clears throat] fun. >> Anyway, I just thought it was kind of a >> Anyway, I just thought it was kind of a >> Anyway, I just thought it was kind of a fun shop that and you know it's legit fun shop that and you know it's legit fun shop that and you know it's legit cuz it when you get the package, it's cuz it when you get the package, it's cuz it when you get the package, it's actually like it's shipped directly from actually like it's shipped directly from actually like it's shipped directly from Japan. Yeah. Japan. Yeah. Japan. Yeah. >> Like often times you'll find some of >> Like often times you'll find some of >> Like often times you'll find some of these places that make like a Japanese these places that make like a Japanese these places that make like a Japanese style jacket and then you find a little style jacket and then you find a little style jacket and then you find a little tag says made in China on the the inside tag says made in China on the the inside tag says made in China on the the inside of it or something, you know. So anyway, of it or something, you know. So anyway, of it or something, you know. So anyway, look at this farmer's washi paper look at this farmer's washi paper look at this farmer's washi paper basket. But like wouldn't that be cool basket. But like wouldn't that be cool basket. But like wouldn't that be cool to have in your house sitting around to have in your house sitting around to have in your house sitting around somewhere? I mean, like that's just somewhere? I mean, like that's just somewhere? I mean, like that's just awesome. awesome. awesome. >> Yeah, I guess these guys are based in >> Yeah, I guess these guys are based in >> Yeah, I guess these guys are based in Canada. Looks like Canada. Looks like Canada. Looks like >> Oh, no. Just cuz I'm that logged into >> Oh, no. Just cuz I'm that logged into >> Oh, no. Just cuz I'm that logged into the Canadian store. the Canadian store. the Canadian store. >> The Canadian store? >> The Canadian store? >> The Canadian store? >> I don't know. I was I was on uh VPN. >> I don't know. I was I was on uh VPN. >> I don't know. I was I was on uh VPN. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I better close those porn brows. >> I better close those porn brows. >> I better close those porn brows. >> No, I was I was in Japan and they were >> No, I was I was in Japan and they were >> No, I was I was in Japan and they were firewalling me off of some stuff and so firewalling me off of some stuff and so firewalling me off of some stuff and so I had to use VPN. I had to use VPN. I had to use VPN. >> Yeah. I'm being dead serious. I'm being >> Yeah. I'm being dead serious. I'm being >> Yeah. I'm being dead serious. I'm being dead serious. It wasn't boring, dude. dead serious. It wasn't boring, dude. dead serious. It wasn't boring, dude. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] No, don't protest too much. All right. No, don't protest too much. All right. No, don't protest too much. All right. Should I hop in? Should I hop in? Should I hop in? >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Go ahead. >> All right. Cool. So, I want to recommend >> All right. Cool. So, I want to recommend >> All right. Cool. So, I want to recommend some podcasts for people and these are some podcasts for people and these are some podcasts for people and these are two that I continue to revisit. One is a two that I continue to revisit. One is a two that I continue to revisit. One is a is a miniseries by 99% Invisible, one of is a miniseries by 99% Invisible, one of is a miniseries by 99% Invisible, one of the OGs, Roman Mars, and he's got some the OGs, Roman Mars, and he's got some the OGs, Roman Mars, and he's got some co-hosts. It is a series on the power co-hosts. It is a series on the power co-hosts. It is a series on the power broker. So the power broker by Robert broker. So the power broker by Robert broker. So the power broker by Robert Carrow won the Pulitzer Prize in 1975. Carrow won the Pulitzer Prize in 1975. Carrow won the Pulitzer Prize in 1975. It's a biography of Robert Moses who It's a biography of Robert Moses who It's a biography of Robert Moses who basically shaped modern New York. And basically shaped modern New York. And basically shaped modern New York. And this book is considered the this book is considered the this book is considered the quintessential quintessential quintessential book to read if you want to understand book to read if you want to understand book to read if you want to understand state and local politics especially state and local politics especially state and local politics especially power wielding in New York. power wielding in New York. power wielding in New York. >> And >> And >> And it is it's a legendary book. It's 1,200 it is it's a legendary book. It's 1,200 it is it's a legendary book. It's 1,200 pages. I've never made it through. I've pages. I've never made it through. I've pages. I've never made it through. I've never even really put a dent in it. And never even really put a dent in it. And never even really put a dent in it. And then what 99% Invisible does, they walk then what 99% Invisible does, they walk then what 99% Invisible does, they walk you through the whole book and kind of you through the whole book and kind of you through the whole book and kind of give you their highlights. They give you their highlights. They give you their highlights. They interview Robert Carroll himself, who interview Robert Carroll himself, who interview Robert Carroll himself, who got to meet Robert Moses multiple times, got to meet Robert Moses multiple times, got to meet Robert Moses multiple times, >> and they have guest appearances by >> and they have guest appearances by >> and they have guest appearances by people like Conan O'Brien, who's a huge people like Conan O'Brien, who's a huge people like Conan O'Brien, who's a huge Robert Caro and Power Ber fan. It's a Robert Caro and Power Ber fan. It's a Robert Caro and Power Ber fan. It's a wonderful series, and I think there are wonderful series, and I think there are wonderful series, and I think there are 12 parts. I had listened to it ages ago, 12 parts. I had listened to it ages ago, 12 parts. I had listened to it ages ago, but they only had three episodes out and but they only had three episodes out and but they only had three episodes out and then I just petered out because I didn't then I just petered out because I didn't then I just petered out because I didn't want to wait months for the next one to want to wait months for the next one to want to wait months for the next one to come out. Now they have the full 12. So come out. Now they have the full 12. So come out. Now they have the full 12. So that's one. And then the other one is a that's one. And then the other one is a that's one. And then the other one is a podcast called STEM Talk. And if I want podcast called STEM Talk. And if I want podcast called STEM Talk. And if I want to find interesting scientists doing to find interesting scientists doing to find interesting scientists doing things that I think I might be able to things that I think I might be able to things that I think I might be able to apply to my life or the lives of loved apply to my life or the lives of loved apply to my life or the lives of loved ones and certainly there's a lot of ones and certainly there's a lot of ones and certainly there's a lot of stuff that's out on the edges that is stuff that's out on the edges that is stuff that's out on the edges that is not yet ready for any clinical not yet ready for any clinical not yet ready for any clinical applications. STEM talk is just applications. STEM talk is just applications. STEM talk is just incredible. And my latest discovery incredible. And my latest discovery incredible. And my latest discovery there is an a really fascinating there is an a really fascinating there is an a really fascinating scientist named Dr. Francisco Gonzalez scientist named Dr. Francisco Gonzalez scientist named Dr. Francisco Gonzalez Lima who's at UT Austin. One of the many Lima who's at UT Austin. One of the many Lima who's at UT Austin. One of the many reasons I'm interested in his research reasons I'm interested in his research reasons I'm interested in his research is that he has a a very different view is that he has a a very different view is that he has a a very different view on neurodeenerative diseases like on neurodeenerative diseases like on neurodeenerative diseases like Alzheimer's Alzheimer's Alzheimer's >> and thinks as I do that people >> and thinks as I do that people >> and thinks as I do that people underweight and researchers underweight underweight and researchers underweight underweight and researchers underweight just how critical or how you might think just how critical or how you might think just how critical or how you might think of Alzheimer's as a vascular disease of Alzheimer's as a vascular disease of Alzheimer's as a vascular disease >> and including mitochondrial dysfunction. >> and including mitochondrial dysfunction. >> and including mitochondrial dysfunction. And the more I dig into this, the less And the more I dig into this, the less And the more I dig into this, the less compelling I find kind of amaloid plaque compelling I find kind of amaloid plaque compelling I find kind of amaloid plaque like amaloid beta plaque amaloid beta like amaloid beta plaque amaloid beta like amaloid beta plaque amaloid beta plaque plaque plaque >> for for for a whole host of reasons. >> for for for a whole host of reasons. >> for for for a whole host of reasons. >> It's pretty widely accepted now that >> It's pretty widely accepted now that >> It's pretty widely accepted now that that is a byproduct of something gone that is a byproduct of something gone that is a byproduct of something gone wrong and not the cause of it. Right. wrong and not the cause of it. Right. wrong and not the cause of it. Right. >> I do think a lot of doctors and >> I do think a lot of doctors and >> I do think a lot of doctors and scientists would view it as a byproduct. scientists would view it as a byproduct. scientists would view it as a byproduct. Nonetheless, a lot of the treatment Nonetheless, a lot of the treatment Nonetheless, a lot of the treatment options like denotamab infusions or options like denotamab infusions or options like denotamab infusions or otherwise are focused on removing otherwise are focused on removing otherwise are focused on removing plaque, right? But you can remove a lot plaque, right? But you can remove a lot plaque, right? But you can remove a lot of plaque assuming it doesn't kill of plaque assuming it doesn't kill of plaque assuming it doesn't kill people because there are risks and stuff people because there are risks and stuff people because there are risks and stuff and you may not see any change in and you may not see any change in and you may not see any change in cognition whatsoever. cognition whatsoever. cognition whatsoever. >> What do you think of the Bretson >> What do you think of the Bretson >> What do you think of the Bretson protocol? protocol? protocol? >> Dale Bredson I I I don't know much about >> Dale Bredson I I I don't know much about >> Dale Bredson I I I don't know much about Dale. So you could illuminate me. Let's Dale. So you could illuminate me. Let's Dale. So you could illuminate me. Let's get to that in a second. get to that in a second. get to that in a second. >> Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. >> But what I have seen, let's just say in >> But what I have seen, let's just say in >> But what I have seen, let's just say in the case of some of my relatives, I've the case of some of my relatives, I've the case of some of my relatives, I've got three relatives with Alzheimer's got three relatives with Alzheimer's got three relatives with Alzheimer's right now. one who's disintegrating very right now. one who's disintegrating very right now. one who's disintegrating very quickly, one who's in hospice, and quickly, one who's in hospice, and quickly, one who's in hospice, and another who's sort of in the the early another who's sort of in the the early another who's sort of in the the early but rapidly advancing stages. And if I but rapidly advancing stages. And if I but rapidly advancing stages. And if I give I gave one of them actually the give I gave one of them actually the give I gave one of them actually the exact same ketone that I had before we exact same ketone that I had before we exact same ketone that I had before we sat down sat down sat down only 10 grams cuz I didn't want to risk only 10 grams cuz I didn't want to risk only 10 grams cuz I didn't want to risk them getting dizzy, which can be a them getting dizzy, which can be a them getting dizzy, which can be a byproduct and falling. But I gave them byproduct and falling. But I gave them byproduct and falling. But I gave them 10 or 15 grams and within 20 minutes, 10 or 15 grams and within 20 minutes, 10 or 15 grams and within 20 minutes, longer sentences, faster speech. This is longer sentences, faster speech. This is longer sentences, faster speech. This is someone who is giving like one word, someone who is giving like one word, someone who is giving like one word, two-word responses, and that lasted for two-word responses, and that lasted for two-word responses, and that lasted for about an hour, hour and a half. about an hour, hour and a half. about an hour, hour and a half. >> So, if plaques, even if we're talking >> So, if plaques, even if we're talking >> So, if plaques, even if we're talking about tow and so on, if those were about tow and so on, if those were about tow and so on, if those were solely responsible, that shouldn't work, solely responsible, that shouldn't work, solely responsible, that shouldn't work, >> right? But I don't want to be dosing my >> right? But I don't want to be dosing my >> right? But I don't want to be dosing my family with ketones constantly for a lot family with ketones constantly for a lot family with ketones constantly for a lot of reasons. It's like, okay, well, what of reasons. It's like, okay, well, what of reasons. It's like, okay, well, what else can we do? else can we do? else can we do? >> And this Dr. Dr. Gonzalez Lima has >> And this Dr. Dr. Gonzalez Lima has >> And this Dr. Dr. Gonzalez Lima has looked at lowdose methylane blue looked at lowdose methylane blue looked at lowdose methylane blue >> and also photobiomodulation >> and also photobiomodulation >> and also photobiomodulation using lasers or LEDs like right on in using lasers or LEDs like right on in using lasers or LEDs like right on in most cases the right prefal cortex. most cases the right prefal cortex. most cases the right prefal cortex. >> By the way, do you know that they're >> By the way, do you know that they're >> By the way, do you know that they're selling methane blue on freaking Amazon selling methane blue on freaking Amazon selling methane blue on freaking Amazon now? now? now? >> That's scary. >> That's scary. >> That's scary. >> I know they didn't used to because they >> I know they didn't used to because they >> I know they didn't used to because they were scared to do it. Now there are were scared to do it. Now there are were scared to do it. Now there are supplement companies that are selling supplement companies that are selling supplement companies that are selling straight up methane blue on Amazon. straight up methane blue on Amazon. straight up methane blue on Amazon. >> Scary. Yeah. Although the safety profile >> Scary. Yeah. Although the safety profile >> Scary. Yeah. Although the safety profile like it's been used for a very long like it's been used for a very long like it's been used for a very long time. time. time. >> Yeah. It's got like 120 years of >> Yeah. It's got like 120 years of >> Yeah. It's got like 120 years of research. But if you overshoot the research. But if you overshoot the research. But if you overshoot the therapeutic window like you can [ __ ] therapeutic window like you can [ __ ] therapeutic window like you can [ __ ] yourself up. yourself up. yourself up. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So in this case it's low dose ideally >> So in this case it's low dose ideally >> So in this case it's low dose ideally plus photobiomodulation plus photobiomodulation plus photobiomodulation and you're hitting and you're hitting and you're hitting two aspects of the electron transport two aspects of the electron transport two aspects of the electron transport chain that should be synergistic for chain that should be synergistic for chain that should be synergistic for mitochondrial function and also glucose mitochondrial function and also glucose mitochondrial function and also glucose metabolism. metabolism. metabolism. So that's really got my attention right So that's really got my attention right So that's really got my attention right now. Dude, look at this on Amazon. now. Dude, look at this on Amazon. now. Dude, look at this on Amazon. Look at this guy drinking a big picture Look at this guy drinking a big picture Look at this guy drinking a big picture of it. of it. of it. >> Guys drinking a like a shaker bottle >> Guys drinking a like a shaker bottle >> Guys drinking a like a shaker bottle full of methylene blue full of methylene blue full of methylene blue >> with the goldfish. Oh, >> with the goldfish. Oh, >> with the goldfish. Oh, >> you know methylene blue is what they >> you know methylene blue is what they >> you know methylene blue is what they used for fish tanks, right? To to color used for fish tanks, right? To to color used for fish tanks, right? To to color the water blue. the water blue. the water blue. >> Is it? >> Is it? >> Is it? >> Yeah. They were using it in fish tanks. >> Yeah. They were using it in fish tanks. >> Yeah. They were using it in fish tanks. >> Well, if it's good enough for the fish >> Well, if it's good enough for the fish >> Well, if it's good enough for the fish tanks, I guess. tanks, I guess. tanks, I guess. >> Be careful. >> Be careful. >> Be careful. >> Yeah. Look, look at here. It is general >> Yeah. Look, look at here. It is general >> Yeah. Look, look at here. It is general disease prevention for fish. disease prevention for fish. disease prevention for fish. >> Prevention. Oh, you know, if it works >> Prevention. Oh, you know, if it works >> Prevention. Oh, you know, if it works for fish, for fish, for fish, >> this pet store has figured it out. >> this pet store has figured it out. >> this pet store has figured it out. >> Yeah, exactly. Be very careful, folks. >> Yeah, exactly. Be very careful, folks. >> Yeah, exactly. Be very careful, folks. >> Yes. If you overdo, this is true for a >> Yes. If you overdo, this is true for a >> Yes. If you overdo, this is true for a lot of things. You basically have lot of things. You basically have lot of things. You basically have a response curve where a hormetic dose a response curve where a hormetic dose a response curve where a hormetic dose like a very small amount is good for like a very small amount is good for like a very small amount is good for you. Kind of like Ian powder in Princess you. Kind of like Ian powder in Princess you. Kind of like Ian powder in Princess Bride or it helps with immune function Bride or it helps with immune function Bride or it helps with immune function and so on. Right? If you take too much and so on. Right? If you take too much and so on. Right? If you take too much has the opposite effect. So you you has the opposite effect. So you you has the opposite effect. So you you could I believe I don't I don't think could I believe I don't I don't think could I believe I don't I don't think I'm getting this wrong I'm getting this wrong I'm getting this wrong handicap your mitochondrial function by handicap your mitochondrial function by handicap your mitochondrial function by taking too much. Dude, look at this. 15 taking too much. Dude, look at this. 15 taking too much. Dude, look at this. 15 milligs of methylene blue with 75 milligs of methylene blue with 75 milligs of methylene blue with 75 milligs of vitamin C neuropro. I'm not milligs of vitamin C neuropro. I'm not milligs of vitamin C neuropro. I'm not recommending this. This just went on recommending this. This just went on recommending this. This just went on Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. >> It's all over Amazon. God, that's >> It's all over Amazon. God, that's >> It's all over Amazon. God, that's terrifying. terrifying. terrifying. >> What would be considered a micro dose in >> What would be considered a micro dose in >> What would be considered a micro dose in your opinion? your opinion? your opinion? >> I'd have to go back and look at his >> I'd have to go back and look at his >> I'd have to go back and look at his actual research. People should listen to actual research. People should listen to actual research. People should listen to the STEM talk episode with pictures the STEM talk episode with pictures the STEM talk episode with pictures somebody put in her purse like somebody put in her purse like somebody put in her purse like >> like an epipen. I'll just take this to >> like an epipen. I'll just take this to >> like an epipen. I'll just take this to go to blue. By the way, the comments I I go to blue. By the way, the comments I I go to blue. By the way, the comments I I It's so funny you got on this because It's so funny you got on this because It's so funny you got on this because literally two days ago I was in here literally two days ago I was in here literally two days ago I was in here reading the comments and they're like, reading the comments and they're like, reading the comments and they're like, "I'm peeing blue now." Like you pee "I'm peeing blue now." Like you pee "I'm peeing blue now." Like you pee blue. blue. blue. >> You do pee blue. And that's actually a >> You do pee blue. And that's actually a >> You do pee blue. And that's actually a way individually that you can begin to way individually that you can begin to way individually that you can begin to identify your identify your identify your customized dose. At what point you customized dose. At what point you customized dose. At what point you shouldn't be peeing blue. shouldn't be peeing blue. shouldn't be peeing blue. >> No, at what point you go from blue to >> No, at what point you go from blue to >> No, at what point you go from blue to clear. you can figure out basically what clear. you can figure out basically what clear. you can figure out basically what they're probably using not they're probably using not they're probably using not >> exactly the correct terms but figure out >> exactly the correct terms but figure out >> exactly the correct terms but figure out what the halfife is in your body what the halfife is in your body what the halfife is in your body >> so that you're dosing at the right >> so that you're dosing at the right >> so that you're dosing at the right interval interval interval >> they call this bro science by the way >> they call this bro science by the way >> they call this bro science by the way but two guys that don't have but two guys that don't have but two guys that don't have >> well I mean I I am pretty closely >> well I mean I I am pretty closely >> well I mean I I am pretty closely [laughter] echoing yes it is bro science [laughter] echoing yes it is bro science [laughter] echoing yes it is bro science but but it's it's bro science with but but it's it's bro science with but but it's it's bro science with citations citations citations >> meaning like don't trust exactly what >> meaning like don't trust exactly what >> meaning like don't trust exactly what I'm saying but go listen to the episode I'm saying but go listen to the episode I'm saying but go listen to the episode and read his research and read his research and read his research >> dude look at this >> dude look at this >> dude look at this >> methylene blue gummies for >> methylene blue gummies for >> methylene blue gummies for >> they're selling like gummies Now methane >> they're selling like gummies Now methane >> they're selling like gummies Now methane blue. blue. blue. >> Terrifying. >> Terrifying. >> Terrifying. >> Anyway, just because it's a supplement >> Anyway, just because it's a supplement >> Anyway, just because it's a supplement doesn't make it safe, folks. doesn't make it safe, folks. doesn't make it safe, folks. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Yeah. Hemlock all natural. Turns out >> Yeah. Hemlock all natural. Turns out >> Yeah. Hemlock all natural. Turns out shouldn't have too much of it. shouldn't have too much of it. shouldn't have too much of it. >> Hemlock. >> Hemlock. >> Hemlock. >> Yeah. Killed Socrates. >> Yeah. Killed Socrates. >> Yeah. Killed Socrates. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. >> Yeah. So, it's just like arsenic. All >> Yeah. So, it's just like arsenic. All >> Yeah. So, it's just like arsenic. All natural. Don't go take a shaker bottle natural. Don't go take a shaker bottle natural. Don't go take a shaker bottle full of arsenic. full of arsenic. full of arsenic. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah. Be careful out there, kids. >> So, yeah. Be careful out there, kids. >> So, yeah. Be careful out there, kids. But that definitely has my attention But that definitely has my attention But that definitely has my attention right now because I I think about say right now because I I think about say right now because I I think about say parental risk. You know, my my mom's parental risk. You know, my my mom's parental risk. You know, my my mom's cognition is slipping, but she's APOE cognition is slipping, but she's APOE cognition is slipping, but she's APOE 33. Her APOE al profile is 33. I'm 34. 33. Her APOE al profile is 33. I'm 34. 33. Her APOE al profile is 33. I'm 34. My brother's 34, which means we got the My brother's 34, which means we got the My brother's 34, which means we got the four from my dad. He's sharp as attack. four from my dad. He's sharp as attack. four from my dad. He's sharp as attack. He's incredibly sharp and he's older He's incredibly sharp and he's older He's incredibly sharp and he's older than my mom. So, it's like, all right, than my mom. So, it's like, all right, than my mom. So, it's like, all right, they both have metabolic dysfunction, so they both have metabolic dysfunction, so they both have metabolic dysfunction, so that's kind of equalized, right? Like that's kind of equalized, right? Like that's kind of equalized, right? Like they're fasting glucose and all that's they're fasting glucose and all that's they're fasting glucose and all that's terrible. terrible. terrible. >> It's like, what's going on? Well, you do >> It's like, what's going on? Well, you do >> It's like, what's going on? Well, you do inherit mitochondria from your mom and inherit mitochondria from your mom and inherit mitochondria from your mom and mitochondria very big deal. mitochondria very big deal. mitochondria very big deal. So, I'm looking at different levers that So, I'm looking at different levers that So, I'm looking at different levers that I might experiment with in my mom that I might experiment with in my mom that I might experiment with in my mom that could also potentially be applied could also potentially be applied could also potentially be applied preventatively preventatively preventatively >> in me and my brother. >> in me and my brother. >> in me and my brother. >> Yeah. So, so the the Dale Bredesen >> Yeah. So, so the the Dale Bredesen >> Yeah. So, so the the Dale Bredesen protocol is is pretty awesome. He wrote protocol is is pretty awesome. He wrote protocol is is pretty awesome. He wrote a book about six or seven years ago. a book about six or seven years ago. a book about six or seven years ago. Maybe it's closer to 10. Am I right? Maybe it's closer to 10. Am I right? Maybe it's closer to 10. Am I right? >> Exactly. That's all all it is. uh which >> Exactly. That's all all it is. uh which >> Exactly. That's all all it is. uh which you tried for the first time today. you tried for the first time today. you tried for the first time today. >> Oh Jesus. >> Oh Jesus. >> Oh Jesus. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well was exactly that but yeah. Um so >> Well was exactly that but yeah. Um so >> Well was exactly that but yeah. Um so the one thing I like about it's called the one thing I like about it's called the one thing I like about it's called the end of Alzheimer's is the name of the end of Alzheimer's is the name of the end of Alzheimer's is the name of his book is that he is his book is that he is his book is that he is >> understated. Yeah. Exactly. It's won't >> understated. Yeah. Exactly. It's won't >> understated. Yeah. Exactly. It's won't sell many copies with that title. But sell many copies with that title. But sell many copies with that title. But what he came up with is he said okay what he came up with is he said okay what he came up with is he said okay listen the what we're seeing in the listen the what we're seeing in the listen the what we're seeing in the brain is the byproduct of something brain is the byproduct of something brain is the byproduct of something going hair wire. It's either bloodb going hair wire. It's either bloodb going hair wire. It's either bloodb brain barrier breaking down allowing bad brain barrier breaking down allowing bad brain barrier breaking down allowing bad [ __ ] in. It could be bacteria. It could [ __ ] in. It could be bacteria. It could [ __ ] in. It could be bacteria. It could be like a whole slew of different be like a whole slew of different be like a whole slew of different things. things. things. It it could be like you said an issue It it could be like you said an issue It it could be like you said an issue with blood flow and it could be what did with blood flow and it could be what did with blood flow and it could be what did you call it vascular type issue and he you call it vascular type issue and he you call it vascular type issue and he thinks it's like three or four he thinks thinks it's like three or four he thinks thinks it's like three or four he thinks it's either it's either it's either >> vascular which sauna other things like >> vascular which sauna other things like >> vascular which sauna other things like that help with that help with that help with >> cocovia like other ways to make sure >> cocovia like other ways to make sure >> cocovia like other ways to make sure that you have vascular health obviously that you have vascular health obviously that you have vascular health obviously the mitochondria thing is another one the mitochondria thing is another one the mitochondria thing is another one that he's huge on that he's huge on that he's huge on >> and then he also thinks it's it could be >> and then he also thinks it's it could be >> and then he also thinks it's it could be toxin related as well toxin related as well toxin related as well >> sure like and and talking about how to >> sure like and and talking about how to >> sure like and and talking about how to get those toxins out of your body. But get those toxins out of your body. But get those toxins out of your body. But his protocol is that very common sense. his protocol is that very common sense. his protocol is that very common sense. It's like It's like It's like >> what is it? >> what is it? >> what is it? >> It is essentially a handful of >> It is essentially a handful of >> It is essentially a handful of supplements which are all the ones that supplements which are all the ones that supplements which are all the ones that you've basically talked about you've basically talked about you've basically talked about >> along with it's like a lightweight keto. >> along with it's like a lightweight keto. >> along with it's like a lightweight keto. So just making sure you go into So just making sure you go into So just making sure you go into lightweight ketosis lightweight ketosis lightweight ketosis >> like 5 days a week. >> like 5 days a week. >> like 5 days a week. >> And then you know obviously no sugar, no >> And then you know obviously no sugar, no >> And then you know obviously no sugar, no refined carbohydrates, like eliminating refined carbohydrates, like eliminating refined carbohydrates, like eliminating all that [ __ ] Turns out exercise like all that [ __ ] Turns out exercise like all that [ __ ] Turns out exercise like intense exercise is very important. Mhm. intense exercise is very important. Mhm. intense exercise is very important. Mhm. >> And he's shown now over the course of a >> And he's shown now over the course of a >> And he's shown now over the course of a decade that he's taken people actually decade that he's taken people actually decade that he's taken people actually you know Kelly Boyce who we were on the you know Kelly Boyce who we were on the you know Kelly Boyce who we were on the >> retreat with she's an awesome meditation >> retreat with she's an awesome meditation >> retreat with she's an awesome meditation she teaches something this form of she teaches something this form of she teaches something this form of relaxing yoga but yeah as an aside relaxing yoga but yeah as an aside relaxing yoga but yeah as an aside >> her father I think it should be okay for >> her father I think it should be okay for >> her father I think it should be okay for me sh double check but her father had me sh double check but her father had me sh double check but her father had mild cognitive impairment 10 years ago mild cognitive impairment 10 years ago mild cognitive impairment 10 years ago and they were of course really worried and they were of course really worried and they were of course really worried they put them on the Dale Bredesen they put them on the Dale Bredesen they put them on the Dale Bredesen protocol and he's scoring better now protocol and he's scoring better now protocol and he's scoring better now than he was when he first took the test than he was when he first took the test than he was when he first took the test >> 10 years later. >> 10 years later. >> 10 years later. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And she's like, "Yeah, he still has >> And she's like, "Yeah, he still has >> And she's like, "Yeah, he still has issues like here and there, but he's issues like here and there, but he's issues like here and there, but he's like, you know, I guess in his 80s now like, you know, I guess in his 80s now like, you know, I guess in his 80s now or something." And it's like, but that or something." And it's like, but that or something." And it's like, but that is that's what you want. Like even if we is that's what you want. Like even if we is that's what you want. Like even if we can say, "Okay, my cognitive impairment can say, "Okay, my cognitive impairment can say, "Okay, my cognitive impairment is progressing." Like my mom is in this is progressing." Like my mom is in this is progressing." Like my mom is in this situation. She can't tell you what she situation. She can't tell you what she situation. She can't tell you what she had for breakfast, had for breakfast, had for breakfast, >> but thankfully she doesn't have >> but thankfully she doesn't have >> but thankfully she doesn't have Alzheimer's. She has some form of Alzheimer's. She has some form of Alzheimer's. She has some form of dementia. She remembers me, kids names, dementia. She remembers me, kids names, dementia. She remembers me, kids names, stuff like that. the important things. stuff like that. the important things. stuff like that. the important things. She would have a hard time telling you She would have a hard time telling you She would have a hard time telling you what name my dog is. Like there's little what name my dog is. Like there's little what name my dog is. Like there's little things that slide through the cracks. things that slide through the cracks. things that slide through the cracks. She's and sadly really overweight, you She's and sadly really overweight, you She's and sadly really overweight, you know, didn't really want to do that. But know, didn't really want to do that. But know, didn't really want to do that. But the point is if we can see this stuff the point is if we can see this stuff the point is if we can see this stuff early enough where they you still have early enough where they you still have early enough where they you still have enough of your wits about you to take enough of your wits about you to take enough of your wits about you to take action cuz compliance is huge as you action cuz compliance is huge as you action cuz compliance is huge as you know like how hard is it to get your know like how hard is it to get your know like how hard is it to get your family members to go do highintensity family members to go do highintensity family members to go do highintensity like exercise? like exercise? like exercise? >> Yeah. Can I pause for a sec? Yeah. So >> Yeah. Can I pause for a sec? Yeah. So >> Yeah. Can I pause for a sec? Yeah. So that's part of the reason why the the that's part of the reason why the the that's part of the reason why the the methylene blue and the methylene blue and the methylene blue and the photobiomodulation is so interesting photobiomodulation is so interesting photobiomodulation is so interesting because for instance there's a device because for instance there's a device because for instance there's a device that is actually worth investigating on that is actually worth investigating on that is actually worth investigating on some levels called the cognto device. some levels called the cognto device. some levels called the cognto device. It's a headset. It was developed by It's a headset. It was developed by It's a headset. It was developed by scientists out of MIT and it's 40 hertz scientists out of MIT and it's 40 hertz scientists out of MIT and it's 40 hertz I believe both visual and auditory I believe both visual and auditory I believe both visual and auditory stimulation in reesus monkeys pretty stimulation in reesus monkeys pretty stimulation in reesus monkeys pretty recently in the last year they showed a recently in the last year they showed a recently in the last year they showed a lot of plaque clearance enhanced by lot of plaque clearance enhanced by lot of plaque clearance enhanced by this. Right. That's still, if I'm this. Right. That's still, if I'm this. Right. That's still, if I'm understanding correctly, people fact understanding correctly, people fact understanding correctly, people fact check this, but that's still predicated check this, but that's still predicated check this, but that's still predicated on the theory of disease for Alzheimer's on the theory of disease for Alzheimer's on the theory of disease for Alzheimer's that by removing plaque, you get that by removing plaque, you get that by removing plaque, you get clinical outcomes, right? clinical outcomes, right? clinical outcomes, right? >> The photobiomodulation. Well, let me >> The photobiomodulation. Well, let me >> The photobiomodulation. Well, let me before I get to that, before I get to that, before I get to that, >> as I understand it, this is an hour a >> as I understand it, this is an hour a >> as I understand it, this is an hour a day day day >> of wearing this device on your head. >> of wearing this device on your head. >> of wearing this device on your head. >> My mom's not going to do that. There's >> My mom's not going to do that. There's >> My mom's not going to do that. There's no [ __ ] way. Right. no [ __ ] way. Right. no [ __ ] way. Right. >> Right. Nor any of my relatives. However, >> Right. Nor any of my relatives. However, >> Right. Nor any of my relatives. However, the photobiomodulation, it's like 8 to the photobiomodulation, it's like 8 to the photobiomodulation, it's like 8 to 10 minutes, right? Laser or LED. LED is 10 minutes, right? Laser or LED. LED is 10 minutes, right? Laser or LED. LED is a little harder to make. a little harder to make. a little harder to make. >> Do you have to go in to do that or can >> Do you have to go in to do that or can >> Do you have to go in to do that or can you get a device that doesn't you get a device that doesn't you get a device that doesn't >> I'm going to buy a device and I'm not >> I'm going to buy a device and I'm not >> I'm going to buy a device and I'm not recommending people do that. You can recommending people do that. You can recommending people do that. You can really damage your eyes with lasers and really damage your eyes with lasers and really damage your eyes with lasers and so on. But right now, it's not like you so on. But right now, it's not like you so on. But right now, it's not like you can go to a clinic and be like, "Hey, can go to a clinic and be like, "Hey, can go to a clinic and be like, "Hey, I'd like to have this treatment." Just I'd like to have this treatment." Just I'd like to have this treatment." Just doesn't exist. So, let me be the guinea doesn't exist. So, let me be the guinea doesn't exist. So, let me be the guinea pig before anybody does anything. But pig before anybody does anything. But pig before anybody does anything. But you get this device and it's I'm sure you get this device and it's I'm sure you get this device and it's I'm sure it's going to be very expensive, right? it's going to be very expensive, right? it's going to be very expensive, right? Some of these lasers like there's like Some of these lasers like there's like Some of these lasers like there's like $30,000, $30,000, $30,000, but but but 8 minutes, 8 to 10 minutes and you you 8 minutes, 8 to 10 minutes and you you 8 minutes, 8 to 10 minutes and you you can see even after a single session, you can see even after a single session, you can see even after a single session, you can see multiple weeks of effects. can see multiple weeks of effects. can see multiple weeks of effects. >> H crazy. And so it it just sits right on >> H crazy. And so it it just sits right on >> H crazy. And so it it just sits right on top of it into the eye or on top of top of it into the eye or on top of top of it into the eye or on top of >> Well, there are devices that go through >> Well, there are devices that go through >> Well, there are devices that go through the eyes, but this one, what makes it so the eyes, but this one, what makes it so the eyes, but this one, what makes it so mystifying in a way for me is that it's mystifying in a way for me is that it's mystifying in a way for me is that it's it's actually pointed at the forehead as it's actually pointed at the forehead as it's actually pointed at the forehead as an infrared laser. It's so fascinating. an infrared laser. It's so fascinating. an infrared laser. It's so fascinating. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And there's peer-reviewed published >> And there's peer-reviewed published >> And there's peer-reviewed published studies on this, which you can find, studies on this, which you can find, studies on this, which you can find, anybody who looks up Gonzalz Lima will anybody who looks up Gonzalz Lima will anybody who looks up Gonzalz Lima will will find it. So, it's exciting. It's will find it. So, it's exciting. It's will find it. So, it's exciting. It's super exciting because there's certain super exciting because there's certain super exciting because there's certain things like I know that my mitochondria things like I know that my mitochondria things like I know that my mitochondria are funky, right? And I I know that are funky, right? And I I know that are funky, right? And I I know that through different types of endurance through different types of endurance through different types of endurance testing, testing, testing, different types of obviously all sorts different types of obviously all sorts different types of obviously all sorts of stuff done through doctors and tests of stuff done through doctors and tests of stuff done through doctors and tests and blah blah blah blah. There's and blah blah blah blah. There's and blah blah blah blah. There's something funky with the mitochondria. something funky with the mitochondria. something funky with the mitochondria. And I'm like, okay, well, let's try to And I'm like, okay, well, let's try to And I'm like, okay, well, let's try to get ahead of that. get ahead of that. get ahead of that. >> Yeah. And actually related to that to >> Yeah. And actually related to that to >> Yeah. And actually related to that to invoke, I said she would come back. invoke, I said she would come back. invoke, I said she would come back. Rhonda Patrick also, you know, was Rhonda Patrick also, you know, was Rhonda Patrick also, you know, was texting with her at one point because I texting with her at one point because I texting with her at one point because I was listening to STEM talk, that podcast was listening to STEM talk, that podcast was listening to STEM talk, that podcast I mentioned, and I came across a I mentioned, and I came across a I mentioned, and I came across a scientist discussing something called scientist discussing something called scientist discussing something called eurolithn. eurolithn. eurolithn. >> Of course, it might appear. >> Of course, it might appear. >> Of course, it might appear. >> Yeah, might appear. And two years ago, >> Yeah, might appear. And two years ago, >> Yeah, might appear. And two years ago, maybe it was two years ago, like she was maybe it was two years ago, like she was maybe it was two years ago, like she was pretty bearish on it, but there's a lot pretty bearish on it, but there's a lot pretty bearish on it, but there's a lot of new research, or I shouldn't say a of new research, or I shouldn't say a of new research, or I shouldn't say a lot, there's new research has come out. lot, there's new research has come out. lot, there's new research has come out. And also met with a couple of biotech And also met with a couple of biotech And also met with a couple of biotech people in Boston who are very respected. people in Boston who are very respected. people in Boston who are very respected. I'm not going to dox them cuz I don't I'm not going to dox them cuz I don't I'm not going to dox them cuz I don't want to. But they want to. But they want to. But they >> basically did this like comprehensive >> basically did this like comprehensive >> basically did this like comprehensive analysis and landed on three or four analysis and landed on three or four analysis and landed on three or four things and one of them was your litha. things and one of them was your litha. things and one of them was your litha. >> Right. I take 300 milligrams a day. >> Right. I take 300 milligrams a day. >> Right. I take 300 milligrams a day. >> 300. How do you How did you choose 300 >> 300. How do you How did you choose 300 >> 300. How do you How did you choose 300 milligrams? milligrams? milligrams? >> Because that's what all the studies are >> Because that's what all the studies are >> Because that's what all the studies are are done on. Or no, sorry. Five. So 500 are done on. Or no, sorry. Five. So 500 are done on. Or no, sorry. Five. So 500 to,000. I take 500 milligrams a day. to,000. I take 500 milligrams a day. to,000. I take 500 milligrams a day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Clearly I need to be taking higher >> Clearly I need to be taking higher >> Clearly I need to be taking higher [laughter] dose. [laughter] dose. [laughter] dose. >> I've only been doing 3 months to see >> I've only been doing 3 months to see >> I've only been doing 3 months to see some results. So bear with me people. I some results. So bear with me people. I some results. So bear with me people. I was close. What's what's a little was close. What's what's a little was close. What's what's a little strange is that that when you if you buy strange is that that when you if you buy strange is that that when you if you buy the bag, you can get this on Amazon. I'm the bag, you can get this on Amazon. I'm the bag, you can get this on Amazon. I'm not recommending you do that. Jury's not recommending you do that. Jury's not recommending you do that. Jury's still out, but I'm like, "Hey, I want to still out, but I'm like, "Hey, I want to still out, but I'm like, "Hey, I want to hit mitochondria from as many reasonably hit mitochondria from as many reasonably hit mitochondria from as many reasonably plausible mechanisms or angles as plausible mechanisms or angles as plausible mechanisms or angles as possible. You can get mopure. It's possible. You can get mopure. It's possible. You can get mopure. It's expensive AF. Very expensive." I was expensive AF. Very expensive." I was expensive AF. Very expensive." I was going to tell people that the one that going to tell people that the one that going to tell people that the one that people talk about the most in this world people talk about the most in this world people talk about the most in this world that that has done a lot of clinical that that has done a lot of clinical that that has done a lot of clinical studies around it your A is this company studies around it your A is this company studies around it your A is this company called Timeline who does who does a you called Timeline who does who does a you called Timeline who does who does a you know they trademark the name of it which know they trademark the name of it which know they trademark the name of it which is MPure. The problem is it's freaking is MPure. The problem is it's freaking is MPure. The problem is it's freaking expensive. Very very expensive expensive. Very very expensive expensive. Very very expensive >> and I don't know is there another >> and I don't know is there another >> and I don't know is there another company that's out there that has high company that's out there that has high company that's out there that has high quality cuz I want I'm not going to put quality cuz I want I'm not going to put quality cuz I want I'm not going to put [ __ ] into my body. Right. So the [ __ ] into my body. Right. So the [ __ ] into my body. Right. So the difference between but I would like to difference between but I would like to difference between but I would like to know is there any company that know is there any company that know is there any company that >> when you say expensive it's like 60 >> when you say expensive it's like 60 >> when you say expensive it's like 60 count is $125. Right. count is $125. Right. count is $125. Right. >> Right. And you're taking two a day. >> Right. And you're taking two a day. >> Right. And you're taking two a day. >> It's expensive. Yeah. >> It's expensive. Yeah. >> It's expensive. Yeah. >> That's 30 days. >> That's 30 days. >> That's 30 days. >> And most of the studies actually have >> And most of the studies actually have >> And most of the studies actually have people taking a thousand a day. If people taking a thousand a day. If people taking a thousand a day. If you're taking a thousand a day, you're taking a thousand a day, you're taking a thousand a day, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> the prices are, you know, the prices are >> the prices are, you know, the prices are >> the prices are, you know, the prices are going to add up. going to add up. going to add up. >> I would trust Pure Encapsulations if >> I would trust Pure Encapsulations if >> I would trust Pure Encapsulations if they offered some of it. I haven't seen they offered some of it. I haven't seen they offered some of it. I haven't seen anybody, you know, like there's no other anybody, you know, like there's no other anybody, you know, like there's no other brands that I've seen that, you know, brands that I've seen that, you know, brands that I've seen that, you know, the household names like the Thorns, the the household names like the Thorns, the the household names like the Thorns, the Purle Purle Purle compound company like they have a lot compound company like they have a lot compound company like they have a lot vested in IP protection and so on, vested in IP protection and so on, vested in IP protection and so on, >> but it can be synthesized like they >> but it can be synthesized like they >> but it can be synthesized like they don't own that you're thrown away. don't own that you're thrown away. don't own that you're thrown away. Obviously that that's something that Obviously that that's something that Obviously that that's something that anyone can produce. anyone can produce. anyone can produce. >> Well, urthan is also called a >> Well, urthan is also called a >> Well, urthan is also called a postbiotic. postbiotic. postbiotic. >> If you were eating tons of pomegranates >> If you were eating tons of pomegranates >> If you were eating tons of pomegranates and walnuts and so on, there's certain and walnuts and so on, there's certain and walnuts and so on, there's certain things that in your gut by microbes things that in your gut by microbes things that in your gut by microbes would be converted into in part would be converted into in part would be converted into in part uriththane. uriththane. uriththane. >> The problem is that there's a high >> The problem is that there's a high >> The problem is that there's a high degree of variability. So if Kevin eats degree of variability. So if Kevin eats degree of variability. So if Kevin eats two handfuls of walnuts and I ate two two handfuls of walnuts and I ate two two handfuls of walnuts and I ate two handfuls of walnuts, we're not going to handfuls of walnuts, we're not going to handfuls of walnuts, we're not going to get the same amount of uriththna out. get the same amount of uriththna out. get the same amount of uriththna out. Fortunately, urthan is very orally Fortunately, urthan is very orally Fortunately, urthan is very orally bioavailable, which is why the bioavailable, which is why the bioavailable, which is why the supplementation, supplementation, supplementation, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> potentially makes sense. >> potentially makes sense. >> potentially makes sense. >> What's interesting is actually Pure >> What's interesting is actually Pure >> What's interesting is actually Pure Encapsulations does make one. And when Encapsulations does make one. And when Encapsulations does make one. And when you go and look at the label, they you go and look at the label, they you go and look at the label, they actually buy Mopure for theirs. actually buy Mopure for theirs. actually buy Mopure for theirs. >> Oh, there you go. >> Oh, there you go. >> Oh, there you go. >> So, they use Mapure. >> So, they use Mapure. >> So, they use Mapure. >> Mitoure in this case is almost like a >> Mitoure in this case is almost like a >> Mitoure in this case is almost like a it's like an industrial grade supplier it's like an industrial grade supplier it's like an industrial grade supplier in so much as Creapure. Like if you're in so much as Creapure. Like if you're in so much as Creapure. Like if you're buying Creatine, buying Creatine, buying Creatine, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Like I use Momentous Creatine. They're a >> Like I use Momentous Creatine. They're a >> Like I use Momentous Creatine. They're a sponsor of the podcast, but I like their sponsor of the podcast, but I like their sponsor of the podcast, but I like their stuff and everything is like NSF stuff and everything is like NSF stuff and everything is like NSF certified and third party analyzed. certified and third party analyzed. certified and third party analyzed. >> Creapure is this supplier, right? Just >> Creapure is this supplier, right? Just >> Creapure is this supplier, right? Just like maybe MOPure is, right? like maybe MOPure is, right? like maybe MOPure is, right? >> That's providing >> That's providing >> That's providing >> something that is very pure and properly >> something that is very pure and properly >> something that is very pure and properly acid and so on and so forth. acid and so on and so forth. acid and so on and so forth. >> Okay, so pure encapsulation, it's not >> Okay, so pure encapsulation, it's not >> Okay, so pure encapsulation, it's not cheap either. That was 80 bucks. cheap either. That was 80 bucks. cheap either. That was 80 bucks. >> 80 bucks. But so that'll get you, Hold >> 80 bucks. But so that'll get you, Hold >> 80 bucks. But so that'll get you, Hold on. Let's just do the math here. So $80 on. Let's just do the math here. So $80 on. Let's just do the math here. So $80 is 60 pills and again it is 250 megs per is 60 pills and again it is 250 megs per is 60 pills and again it is 250 megs per two pills. So that's half the dose two pills. So that's half the dose two pills. So that's half the dose >> per two pills. So if you wanted a >> per two pills. So if you wanted a >> per two pills. So if you wanted a thousand a day, that's eight. thousand a day, that's eight. thousand a day, that's eight. >> 160. Oh, eight. Oh, thousand a day. >> 160. Oh, eight. Oh, thousand a day. >> 160. Oh, eight. Oh, thousand a day. Yeah. Yeah, it's eight a day. Yeah. Yeah, it's eight a day. Yeah. Yeah, it's eight a day. >> It has other [ __ ] in there, too. I don't >> It has other [ __ ] in there, too. I don't >> It has other [ __ ] in there, too. I don't want all this other stuff. The trans want all this other stuff. The trans want all this other stuff. The trans roseveratrol and whatever. roseveratrol and whatever. roseveratrol and whatever. >> So yeah, it's expensive. That's that 80 >> So yeah, it's expensive. That's that 80 >> So yeah, it's expensive. That's that 80 bucks is going to last you like 12 days, bucks is going to last you like 12 days, bucks is going to last you like 12 days, something like that. something like that. something like that. >> In any case, guys, jury's out. >> In any case, guys, jury's out. >> In any case, guys, jury's out. But it's interesting enough that I added But it's interesting enough that I added But it's interesting enough that I added it into the rotation. And yeah, I' I it into the rotation. And yeah, I' I it into the rotation. And yeah, I' I routinely take things out of the routinely take things out of the routinely take things out of the rotation. Also, this one, this one I've rotation. Also, this one, this one I've rotation. Also, this one, this one I've been taking for probably 6 to 8 weeks. been taking for probably 6 to 8 weeks. been taking for probably 6 to 8 weeks. What's the number one thing that you've What's the number one thing that you've What's the number one thing that you've kept in rotation for the longest time? I kept in rotation for the longest time? I kept in rotation for the longest time? I have two. Vitamin D, obviously, cuz my have two. Vitamin D, obviously, cuz my have two. Vitamin D, obviously, cuz my levels are chronically low without it. levels are chronically low without it. levels are chronically low without it. And I think at this point, it's a And I think at this point, it's a And I think at this point, it's a no-brainer to get your levels where they no-brainer to get your levels where they no-brainer to get your levels where they should be. And then I would say Cocoa is should be. And then I would say Cocoa is should be. And then I would say Cocoa is another one that I have had in for a another one that I have had in for a another one that I have had in for a long time. long time. long time. >> Interesting. Yeah, >> Interesting. Yeah, >> Interesting. Yeah, >> just because it looks really interesting >> just because it looks really interesting >> just because it looks really interesting in terms of vascular health. And then I in terms of vascular health. And then I in terms of vascular health. And then I think that's well obviously a high think that's well obviously a high think that's well obviously a high quality omega-3. quality omega-3. quality omega-3. >> Outside of that, I don't know what else >> Outside of that, I don't know what else >> Outside of that, I don't know what else I've had. What's been in your rotation I've had. What's been in your rotation I've had. What's been in your rotation forever? forever? forever? >> I mean, a lot of them are dictated by >> I mean, a lot of them are dictated by >> I mean, a lot of them are dictated by [gasps] [gasps] [gasps] genetic analysis and blood biomarkers genetic analysis and blood biomarkers genetic analysis and blood biomarkers and so, right? So outside of and so, right? So outside of and so, right? So outside of prescription stuff because I am taking prescription stuff because I am taking prescription stuff because I am taking things to not die of cardiovascular things to not die of cardiovascular things to not die of cardiovascular disease because everybody in my family disease because everybody in my family disease because everybody in my family gets smoked by some kind of gets smoked by some kind of gets smoked by some kind of cardiovascular disease and I'm like no cardiovascular disease and I'm like no cardiovascular disease and I'm like no spring chicken. spring chicken. spring chicken. >> Are you taking Rapatha too? >> Are you taking Rapatha too? >> Are you taking Rapatha too? >> Yeah, takinga. >> Yeah, takinga. >> Yeah, takinga. >> Where do you inject it? >> Where do you inject it? >> Where do you inject it? >> In the thigh. I hate it. It's so >> In the thigh. I hate it. It's so >> In the thigh. I hate it. It's so painful. painful. painful. >> Oh really? >> Oh really? >> Oh really? >> I find it so painful. >> I find it so painful. >> I find it so painful. >> Oh my god. Dude, I can tell you a >> Oh my god. Dude, I can tell you a >> Oh my god. Dude, I can tell you a secret. secret. secret. >> What's the secret? >> What's the secret? >> What's the secret? >> How long do you let the alcohol dry for? >> How long do you let the alcohol dry for? >> How long do you let the alcohol dry for? >> I don't think it's the alcohol. >> I don't think it's the alcohol. >> I don't think it's the alcohol. >> Dude, I'm telling you. I've done >> Dude, I'm telling you. I've done >> Dude, I'm telling you. I've done thousands of injections in myself. thousands of injections in myself. thousands of injections in myself. >> You got to let it cuz if you just like >> You got to let it cuz if you just like >> You got to let it cuz if you just like swipe swipe swipe and then go pop it swipe swipe swipe and then go pop it swipe swipe swipe and then go pop it hurts so cuz it's pushing the alcohol hurts so cuz it's pushing the alcohol hurts so cuz it's pushing the alcohol down into the cup. down into the cup. down into the cup. >> Yeah. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough >> Yeah. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough >> Yeah. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough cuz I'm impatient. It's possible because cuz I'm impatient. It's possible because cuz I'm impatient. It's possible because >> Are you letting it come to room >> Are you letting it come to room >> Are you letting it come to room temperature, too? temperature, too? temperature, too? >> Yeah, I did let it come to room >> Yeah, I did let it come to room >> Yeah, I did let it come to room temperature temperature temperature >> cuz you know it takes five times as long >> cuz you know it takes five times as long >> cuz you know it takes five times as long to inject it if you don't. to inject it if you don't. to inject it if you don't. >> Yeah. So, there's the prescription >> Yeah. So, there's the prescription >> Yeah. So, there's the prescription stuff. It's not going to apply to too stuff. It's not going to apply to too stuff. It's not going to apply to too broad a number of people and I don't broad a number of people and I don't broad a number of people and I don't want anyone aping it and getting want anyone aping it and getting want anyone aping it and getting themselves into trouble. But there's themselves into trouble. But there's themselves into trouble. But there's there are like a few prescription meds there are like a few prescription meds there are like a few prescription meds for for lipid profile is specifically in for for lipid profile is specifically in for for lipid profile is specifically in my case cholesterol absorption my case cholesterol absorption my case cholesterol absorption hyperabsorption. hyperabsorption. hyperabsorption. But I would say supplement wise omega-3 But I would say supplement wise omega-3 But I would say supplement wise omega-3 I honestly try to get that from fish I honestly try to get that from fish I honestly try to get that from fish when I can. So I eat I eat a lot of when I can. So I eat I eat a lot of when I can. So I eat I eat a lot of canned sardines and mackerel and stuff canned sardines and mackerel and stuff canned sardines and mackerel and stuff >> which ties into the keto and fast >> which ties into the keto and fast >> which ties into the keto and fast mimicking diet stuff. mimicking diet stuff. mimicking diet stuff. >> Vitamin D, yes. Although I'm pretty >> Vitamin D, yes. Although I'm pretty >> Vitamin D, yes. Although I'm pretty skeptical of like the entire planet skeptical of like the entire planet skeptical of like the entire planet having vitamin D deficiency, frankly. I having vitamin D deficiency, frankly. I having vitamin D deficiency, frankly. I do take it though. Then there's some B do take it though. Then there's some B do take it though. Then there's some B vitamin complex stuff. I'm a shitty vitamin complex stuff. I'm a shitty vitamin complex stuff. I'm a shitty methylator, so that's a good idea. methylator, so that's a good idea. methylator, so that's a good idea. >> Yeah, same. >> Yeah, same. >> Yeah, same. >> And >> And >> And creatine, although I end up looking kind creatine, although I end up looking kind creatine, although I end up looking kind of like a puffy fat baby if I eat too of like a puffy fat baby if I eat too of like a puffy fat baby if I eat too much of that stuff. much of that stuff. much of that stuff. >> You doing five grams? >> You doing five grams? >> You doing five grams? >> Uh, it depends on the day, right? So >> Uh, it depends on the day, right? So >> Uh, it depends on the day, right? So like I took five grams today. like I took five grams today. like I took five grams today. >> If I'm training, I'm going to use at >> If I'm training, I'm going to use at >> If I'm training, I'm going to use at least 10 doing weight training. And then least 10 doing weight training. And then least 10 doing weight training. And then if I'm I have a crazy travel schedule if I'm I have a crazy travel schedule if I'm I have a crazy travel schedule ahead of me where I'm gonna be in like ahead of me where I'm gonna be in like ahead of me where I'm gonna be in like London for one day and Sweden for one London for one day and Sweden for one London for one day and Sweden for one day, day, day, >> I'll be taking probably 20 to 30 grams a >> I'll be taking probably 20 to 30 grams a >> I'll be taking probably 20 to 30 grams a day because my sleep's going to be so day because my sleep's going to be so day because my sleep's going to be so screwed. screwed. screwed. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Just to compensate for the sleep >> Just to compensate for the sleep >> Just to compensate for the sleep deprivation. deprivation. deprivation. >> Holy [ __ ] Good luck. Good luck making >> Holy [ __ ] Good luck. Good luck making >> Holy [ __ ] Good luck. Good luck making it to the toilet. it to the toilet. it to the toilet. >> Yeah. Creatine jacks your stomach up. >> Yeah. Creatine jacks your stomach up. >> Yeah. Creatine jacks your stomach up. >> Don't combine. Actually, I'm fine with >> Don't combine. Actually, I'm fine with >> Don't combine. Actually, I'm fine with creatine. If I get creatine. If I get creatine. If I get >> You told me at one point it was messing >> You told me at one point it was messing >> You told me at one point it was messing you up, though. Well, there was the you up, though. Well, there was the you up, though. Well, there was the story of me. What did I have? I had I story of me. What did I have? I had I story of me. What did I have? I had I was in San Francisco. This is probably was in San Francisco. This is probably was in San Francisco. This is probably TMI, but whatever. We're all friends TMI, but whatever. We're all friends TMI, but whatever. We're all friends here, right? So, I was I was I was in here, right? So, I was I was I was in here, right? So, I was I was I was in San Francisco. I had my Volkswagen Golf San Francisco. I had my Volkswagen Golf San Francisco. I had my Volkswagen Golf that got broken into like three times that got broken into like three times that got broken into like three times for change. I was so annoyed. San for change. I was so annoyed. San for change. I was so annoyed. San Francisco for the win. And in any case, Francisco for the win. And in any case, Francisco for the win. And in any case, I had to run to an international flight I had to run to an international flight I had to run to an international flight and I was stressed out because I was and I was stressed out because I was and I was stressed out because I was running behind. And I was like, "Well, running behind. And I was like, "Well, running behind. And I was like, "Well, just before I go, I'm going to have just before I go, I'm going to have just before I go, I'm going to have double espresso, 10 grams of creatine, double espresso, 10 grams of creatine, double espresso, 10 grams of creatine, and then I had MCT oil, [laughter] and then I had MCT oil, [laughter] and then I had MCT oil, [laughter] >> and >> and >> and I'm driving on my way to the airport I'm driving on my way to the airport I'm driving on my way to the airport like in a massive rush. I don't have like in a massive rush. I don't have like in a massive rush. I don't have time for anything." time for anything." time for anything." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I lean to do a little squeaker and >> And I lean to do a little squeaker and >> And I lean to do a little squeaker and just just just >> No, disaster. >> No, disaster. >> No, disaster. >> In an Uber? >> In an Uber? >> In an Uber? >> No. In my own car. I park in long-term >> No. In my own car. I park in long-term >> No. In my own car. I park in long-term parking parking parking >> and >> and >> and >> you grab a new pair out of your thing, >> you grab a new pair out of your thing, >> you grab a new pair out of your thing, just wipe and go. I God. All right. just wipe and go. I God. All right. just wipe and go. I God. All right. Can't believe I'm talking about this to Can't believe I'm talking about this to Can't believe I'm talking about this to millions of people, but basically took millions of people, but basically took millions of people, but basically took the underwear and like some rags that I the underwear and like some rags that I the underwear and like some rags that I had like did what I had to do for like had like did what I had to do for like had like did what I had to do for like emergency field triage, tossed it under emergency field triage, tossed it under emergency field triage, tossed it under my car, my car, my car, >> put on my pants, threw >> put on my pants, threw >> put on my pants, threw >> in the trash, put on my put on my pants >> in the trash, put on my put on my pants >> in the trash, put on my put on my pants command. No, I literally was like about command. No, I literally was like about command. No, I literally was like about to miss my flight. Put my pants on to miss my flight. Put my pants on to miss my flight. Put my pants on commando style and then ran on and got commando style and then ran on and got commando style and then ran on and got on the flight. on the flight. on the flight. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And I was just like, I'm sorry >> And I was just like, I'm sorry >> And I was just like, I'm sorry everybody. I know this can't everybody. I know this can't everybody. I know this can't >> be too much of a wonderful clone for >> be too much of a wonderful clone for >> be too much of a wonderful clone for anyone near God. anyone near God. anyone near God. >> We might need to edit some of that. So >> We might need to edit some of that. So >> We might need to edit some of that. So yeah, don't do those three at once. If yeah, don't do those three at once. If yeah, don't do those three at once. If you're getting crepure creatine, I don't you're getting crepure creatine, I don't you're getting crepure creatine, I don't find it to mess up my stomach at all. find it to mess up my stomach at all. find it to mess up my stomach at all. Totally fine. If you combine it with Totally fine. If you combine it with Totally fine. If you combine it with caffeine and MCT oil, caffeine and MCT oil, caffeine and MCT oil, >> MC MCT oil is the best are off. All bets >> MC MCT oil is the best are off. All bets >> MC MCT oil is the best are off. All bets are off. are off. are off. >> That stuff just goes straight through >> That stuff just goes straight through >> That stuff just goes straight through you. I don't know a single person that you. I don't know a single person that you. I don't know a single person that can do highdose MCT and has been like, can do highdose MCT and has been like, can do highdose MCT and has been like, "Oh, my stomach's fine." Like, "Oh, my stomach's fine." Like, "Oh, my stomach's fine." Like, >> yeah. No, you're going to high-risisk. >> yeah. No, you're going to high-risisk. >> yeah. No, you're going to high-risisk. You should just you should just You should just you should just You should just you should just pre-order the subscription of depends pre-order the subscription of depends pre-order the subscription of depends yeah from Amazon. yeah from Amazon. yeah from Amazon. >> Let me mention one other thing. So >> Let me mention one other thing. So >> Let me mention one other thing. So related to all the mental health stuff, related to all the mental health stuff, related to all the mental health stuff, it sounds like we're doing like tons of it sounds like we're doing like tons of it sounds like we're doing like tons of stuff, millions of things. It's actually stuff, millions of things. It's actually stuff, millions of things. It's actually not that complicated for me, right? not that complicated for me, right? not that complicated for me, right? There there are a few supplements that There there are a few supplements that There there are a few supplements that I'm taking consistently, the creatine, I'm taking consistently, the creatine, I'm taking consistently, the creatine, the uriththn etc. There are a few things the uriththn etc. There are a few things the uriththn etc. There are a few things I'm considering like methylene blue. If I'm considering like methylene blue. If I'm considering like methylene blue. If photobiomodulation right with the lasers photobiomodulation right with the lasers photobiomodulation right with the lasers or LEDs is something that you can or LEDs is something that you can or LEDs is something that you can experiment with once a week or once experiment with once a week or once experiment with once a week or once every few weeks and track changes over every few weeks and track changes over every few weeks and track changes over time let's do that and before and after time let's do that and before and after time let's do that and before and after cognitive testing intermittent ketosis cognitive testing intermittent ketosis cognitive testing intermittent ketosis which I find easiest to do through which I find easiest to do through which I find easiest to do through intermittent fasting frankly intermittent fasting frankly intermittent fasting frankly >> which I'll be doing when I travel also I >> which I'll be doing when I travel also I >> which I'll be doing when I travel also I find it to help with jet lag and then find it to help with jet lag and then find it to help with jet lag and then there's the exercise right and so what there's the exercise right and so what there's the exercise right and so what kind of exercise I did a podcast with kind of exercise I did a podcast with kind of exercise I did a podcast with Dr. Tommy Wood recently. Fascinating Dr. Tommy Wood recently. Fascinating Dr. Tommy Wood recently. Fascinating guy. People should listen to that guy. People should listen to that guy. People should listen to that episode. But 4x4 Norwegian episode. But 4x4 Norwegian episode. But 4x4 Norwegian high-intensity training, which is like high-intensity training, which is like high-intensity training, which is like you're basically doing, I guess it would you're basically doing, I guess it would you're basically doing, I guess it would be considered zone 4. be considered zone 4. be considered zone 4. >> You're really maxing out your heart rate >> You're really maxing out your heart rate >> You're really maxing out your heart rate >> and you're doing 4 minutes on, >> and you're doing 4 minutes on, >> and you're doing 4 minutes on, >> 3 minutes off, 4 minutes on, 3 minutes >> 3 minutes off, 4 minutes on, 3 minutes >> 3 minutes off, 4 minutes on, 3 minutes off, 4 minutes on. You're repeating that off, 4 minutes on. You're repeating that off, 4 minutes on. You're repeating that four times. And it is very much puke four times. And it is very much puke four times. And it is very much puke inducing. It's a lot of lactic acid. inducing. It's a lot of lactic acid. inducing. It's a lot of lactic acid. >> Yeah. The problem has always been or one >> Yeah. The problem has always been or one >> Yeah. The problem has always been or one of the problems has always been that if of the problems has always been that if of the problems has always been that if I'm traveling I'm traveling I'm traveling >> stationary bikes in hotels are just >> stationary bikes in hotels are just >> stationary bikes in hotels are just terrible. Like they will destroy my terrible. Like they will destroy my terrible. Like they will destroy my knees. They're just they're just too knees. They're just they're just too knees. They're just they're just too inconsistent in terms of settings and inconsistent in terms of settings and inconsistent in terms of settings and stuff. stuff. stuff. >> So I was texting with Tommy. I don't >> So I was texting with Tommy. I don't >> So I was texting with Tommy. I don't think he'd mind me saying. think he'd mind me saying. think he'd mind me saying. >> I'll have to double check with him. But >> I'll have to double check with him. But >> I'll have to double check with him. But I asked him I said if in the I asked him I said if in the I asked him I said if in the conversation we had I was like well what conversation we had I was like well what conversation we had I was like well what are the drivers here? Is it V2 max? are the drivers here? Is it V2 max? are the drivers here? Is it V2 max? People talk about V2 max V2 max V2 max. People talk about V2 max V2 max V2 max. People talk about V2 max V2 max V2 max. And And And he said, "Well, lactate actually seems he said, "Well, lactate actually seems he said, "Well, lactate actually seems to be a big driver." Like lactic acid, to be a big driver." Like lactic acid, to be a big driver." Like lactic acid, right? right? right? >> Driver of what? >> Driver of what? >> Driver of what? >> Driver of the cognitive changes, like >> Driver of the cognitive changes, like >> Driver of the cognitive changes, like the neuroanatomical and vascular the neuroanatomical and vascular the neuroanatomical and vascular changes. And it's like, okay, well, hold changes. And it's like, okay, well, hold changes. And it's like, okay, well, hold on a second. I was like, if that's the on a second. I was like, if that's the on a second. I was like, if that's the case, there are certain ways of weight case, there are certain ways of weight case, there are certain ways of weight training, like if you do 20 rep squats training, like if you do 20 rep squats training, like if you do 20 rep squats >> in slow cadence or any number of >> in slow cadence or any number of >> in slow cadence or any number of different things, like you are going to different things, like you are going to different things, like you are going to be brimming with lactic acid. Could that be brimming with lactic acid. Could that be brimming with lactic acid. Could that possibly achieve the same effect? think possibly achieve the same effect? think possibly achieve the same effect? think is cloth. is cloth. is cloth. >> Cloth is another part of it >> Cloth is another part of it >> Cloth is another part of it >> cuz cloth has been shown like hit is >> cuz cloth has been shown like hit is >> cuz cloth has been shown like hit is what creates cloth in the humans. what creates cloth in the humans. what creates cloth in the humans. >> Well, cloth cloth is another piece. I >> Well, cloth cloth is another piece. I >> Well, cloth cloth is another piece. I don't think it's the only piece. I think don't think it's the only piece. I think don't think it's the only piece. I think that I mean look I can't wait for us to that I mean look I can't wait for us to that I mean look I can't wait for us to have proper injectable cloth or that have proper injectable cloth or that have proper injectable cloth or that lever to pull but in the meantime I lever to pull but in the meantime I lever to pull but in the meantime I guess the right now today right guess the right now today right guess the right now today right what I'm saying is like high intensity what I'm saying is like high intensity what I'm saying is like high intensity interval training when you're traveling interval training when you're traveling interval training when you're traveling is not always the easiest thing to do. is not always the easiest thing to do. is not always the easiest thing to do. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. >> But like for instance, when I go back to >> But like for instance, when I go back to >> But like for instance, when I go back to my hotel tonight, my hotel tonight, my hotel tonight, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> can I do like like a couple of sets of >> can I do like like a couple of sets of >> can I do like like a couple of sets of very high repetition leg presses and very high repetition leg presses and very high repetition leg presses and just basically have lactic acid pouring just basically have lactic acid pouring just basically have lactic acid pouring out my eyeballs? Yeah, I can do that and out my eyeballs? Yeah, I can do that and out my eyeballs? Yeah, I can do that and I can do it in like 5 minutes, right? I can do it in like 5 minutes, right? I can do it in like 5 minutes, right? It's very And It's very And It's very And >> there are many open questions about it, >> there are many open questions about it, >> there are many open questions about it, >> but that's the approach I'm taking. And >> but that's the approach I'm taking. And >> but that's the approach I'm taking. And what's really cool about the the what's really cool about the the what's really cool about the the Norwegian 4x4 that Tommy describes, and Norwegian 4x4 that Tommy describes, and Norwegian 4x4 that Tommy describes, and I think I'm remembering this correctly, I think I'm remembering this correctly, I think I'm remembering this correctly, is that if you do it, I think it's three is that if you do it, I think it's three is that if you do it, I think it's three times a week for 6 months, you can times a week for 6 months, you can times a week for 6 months, you can observe the effects, the beneficial observe the effects, the beneficial observe the effects, the beneficial effects for like 5 years afterwards. effects for like 5 years afterwards. effects for like 5 years afterwards. >> Wow. Holy [ __ ] >> Wow. Holy [ __ ] >> Wow. Holy [ __ ] >> Isn't that [ __ ] crazy? >> Isn't that [ __ ] crazy? >> Isn't that [ __ ] crazy? >> That's amazing. >> That's amazing. >> That's amazing. >> The durability of the effects are just >> The durability of the effects are just >> The durability of the effects are just nuts. nuts. nuts. >> Okay, this is what I got to I will start >> Okay, this is what I got to I will start >> Okay, this is what I got to I will start by like one by one or something to get by like one by one or something to get by like one by one or something to get going. Wayne hell doing 4x4 if you're going. Wayne hell doing 4x4 if you're going. Wayne hell doing 4x4 if you're doing it properly. I use a Morpheus doing it properly. I use a Morpheus doing it properly. I use a Morpheus chest strap. chest strap. chest strap. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> but you're assuming a certain level of >> but you're assuming a certain level of >> but you're assuming a certain level of baseline cardiovascular fitness than do baseline cardiovascular fitness than do baseline cardiovascular fitness than do 4x4. 4x4. 4x4. >> Not not really because >> Not not really because >> Not not really because >> I mean look, you don't you don't like >> I mean look, you don't you don't like >> I mean look, you don't you don't like blow your apart, but it's heart rate blow your apart, but it's heart rate blow your apart, but it's heart rate based, right? So if you get winded and based, right? So if you get winded and based, right? So if you get winded and your heart gets going walking up a your heart gets going walking up a your heart gets going walking up a flight of stairs, like you're not going flight of stairs, like you're not going flight of stairs, like you're not going to need very much to get into the proper to need very much to get into the proper to need very much to get into the proper zone. I will say for me and this comes zone. I will say for me and this comes zone. I will say for me and this comes back to the mitochondrial discussion and back to the mitochondrial discussion and back to the mitochondrial discussion and I've had doctors who are like that's I've had doctors who are like that's I've had doctors who are like that's nonsense. It's all mediated by the lungs nonsense. It's all mediated by the lungs nonsense. It's all mediated by the lungs or it's actually not mediated by the or it's actually not mediated by the or it's actually not mediated by the lungs. It's all like heart stroke lungs. It's all like heart stroke lungs. It's all like heart stroke volume. I'm like my legs crap out first. volume. I'm like my legs crap out first. volume. I'm like my legs crap out first. >> Yeah. Before my heart rate gets to where >> Yeah. Before my heart rate gets to where >> Yeah. Before my heart rate gets to where it needs to be. My legs are the weak it needs to be. My legs are the weak it needs to be. My legs are the weak length and the fatigue in my legs. I've length and the fatigue in my legs. I've length and the fatigue in my legs. I've got boots for you tonight. Can I put the got boots for you tonight. Can I put the got boots for you tonight. Can I put the boots on while you have dinner? boots on while you have dinner? boots on while you have dinner? >> Are these the uh >> Are these the uh >> Are these the uh >> the ones that go all the way up the leg? >> the ones that go all the way up the leg? >> the ones that go all the way up the leg? >> Norm. >> Norm. >> Norm. >> Yeah, nor you haven't tried them. >> Yeah, nor you haven't tried them. >> Yeah, nor you haven't tried them. >> I have. I love those. Oh, they're so >> I have. I love those. Oh, they're so >> I have. I love those. Oh, they're so good. For people who don't know, real good. For people who don't know, real good. For people who don't know, real quick, quick aside, you just squeeze and quick, quick aside, you just squeeze and quick, quick aside, you just squeeze and they move the blood around in your legs. they move the blood around in your legs. they move the blood around in your legs. Great for recovery. It's like if you Great for recovery. It's like if you Great for recovery. It's like if you want to feel like a coobe cow. want to feel like a coobe cow. want to feel like a coobe cow. >> Yeah, exactly. Throw on some Norch >> Yeah, exactly. Throw on some Norch >> Yeah, exactly. Throw on some Norch boots. boots. boots. >> Have have a cold beer while you're doing >> Have have a cold beer while you're doing >> Have have a cold beer while you're doing [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] We could do both those things tonight. We could do both those things tonight. We could do both those things tonight. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] >> I mean, that's it from my side. Doom and >> I mean, that's it from my side. Doom and >> I mean, that's it from my side. Doom and gloom AI ship. I don't want to talk gloom AI ship. I don't want to talk gloom AI ship. I don't want to talk about that. about that. about that. >> Yeah. No, let's save the doom and gloom >> Yeah. No, let's save the doom and gloom >> Yeah. No, let's save the doom and gloom for next time. I think you're getting for next time. I think you're getting for next time. I think you're getting contagion from one of our other friends. contagion from one of our other friends. contagion from one of our other friends. I left out something that's kind of I left out something that's kind of I left out something that's kind of important which show you're talking important which show you're talking important which show you're talking about. [laughter] about. [laughter] about. [laughter] >> We have a buddy that just like we text >> We have a buddy that just like we text >> We have a buddy that just like we text with and we love you if you're with and we love you if you're with and we love you if you're listening, but he's like the world is listening, but he's like the world is listening, but he's like the world is ending. ending. ending. >> It's a lot of [laughter] it's I can only >> It's a lot of [laughter] it's I can only >> It's a lot of [laughter] it's I can only I lean dystopian anyway. It's like I I lean dystopian anyway. It's like I I lean dystopian anyway. It's like I don't need anyone don't need anyone don't need anyone >> feeding that hyper vigilant like I need >> feeding that hyper vigilant like I need >> feeding that hyper vigilant like I need to become John Connor. Like I don't to become John Connor. Like I don't to become John Connor. Like I don't >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Plus it's like can I do anything? What >> Plus it's like can I do anything? What >> Plus it's like can I do anything? What what am I going to do? What's Timmy what am I going to do? What's Timmy what am I going to do? What's Timmy going to do? going to do? going to do? >> Yeah. Exactly. Meditate. >> Yeah. Exactly. Meditate. >> Yeah. Exactly. Meditate. >> The [ __ ] Genie out of the bottle, >> The [ __ ] Genie out of the bottle, >> The [ __ ] Genie out of the bottle, folks. So we'll save the doom and gloom folks. So we'll save the doom and gloom folks. So we'll save the doom and gloom for next time. for next time. for next time. in terms of an actionable thing like in terms of an actionable thing like in terms of an actionable thing like something I just did before coming here. something I just did before coming here. something I just did before coming here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Let's say you want to experiment with >> Let's say you want to experiment with >> Let's say you want to experiment with this lactate as lever. this lactate as lever. this lactate as lever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For >> For >> For cognitive longevity, right? Like that's cognitive longevity, right? Like that's cognitive longevity, right? Like that's interesting. Okay. [snorts] interesting. Okay. [snorts] interesting. Okay. [snorts] >> And let's just say furthermore to your >> And let's just say furthermore to your >> And let's just say furthermore to your point, right? Everybody's getting older point, right? Everybody's getting older point, right? Everybody's getting older and believe me, maybe you're like and believe me, maybe you're like and believe me, maybe you're like 20-year-old dude and feeling immortal. 20-year-old dude and feeling immortal. 20-year-old dude and feeling immortal. those like [ __ ] up joints and broken those like [ __ ] up joints and broken those like [ __ ] up joints and broken bones will add up and they will come bones will add up and they will come bones will add up and they will come back to haunt you like the ghost of back to haunt you like the ghost of back to haunt you like the ghost of Christmas past. So if you're trying to Christmas past. So if you're trying to Christmas past. So if you're trying to minimize minimize minimize injury risk, right, and lifting, there injury risk, right, and lifting, there injury risk, right, and lifting, there are a couple of different ways you can are a couple of different ways you can are a couple of different ways you can do it. do it. do it. >> One that I've been a proponent of for a >> One that I've been a proponent of for a >> One that I've been a proponent of for a long time is slow down, right? 5 seconds long time is slow down, right? 5 seconds long time is slow down, right? 5 seconds up, 5 seconds down, 10 seconds up, 10 up, 5 seconds down, 10 seconds up, 10 up, 5 seconds down, 10 seconds up, 10 seconds down. seconds down. seconds down. >> Time under tension is is huge, right? >> Time under tension is is huge, right? >> Time under tension is is huge, right? >> Yeah. So it's like, look, if you're not >> Yeah. So it's like, look, if you're not >> Yeah. So it's like, look, if you're not a competitive powerlifter, a competitive powerlifter, a competitive powerlifter, consider moving slowly. What that consider moving slowly. What that consider moving slowly. What that requires you to do is lower the weight. requires you to do is lower the weight. requires you to do is lower the weight. You're also not going to be using You're also not going to be using You're also not going to be using momentum. momentum. momentum. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The the second thing you >> The the second thing you >> The the second thing you >> testosterone [laughter] >> testosterone [laughter] >> testosterone [laughter] not for lactate, but the sec Yeah. I not for lactate, but the sec Yeah. I not for lactate, but the sec Yeah. I mean, sure. When in doubt. Yeah. mean, sure. When in doubt. Yeah. mean, sure. When in doubt. Yeah. Testosterone. Testosterone. Testosterone. >> When in doubt, >> When in doubt, >> When in doubt, >> when in doubt, >> when in doubt, >> when in doubt, >> 200 [clears throat] milligrams once a >> 200 [clears throat] milligrams once a >> 200 [clears throat] milligrams once a week. week. week. >> Yeah. That's a joke, people. >> Yeah. That's a joke, people. >> Yeah. That's a joke, people. >> Well, first of all, if you have it, you >> Well, first of all, if you have it, you >> Well, first of all, if you have it, you Well, anyway, don't do that. Well, anyway, don't do that. Well, anyway, don't do that. >> So, >> So, >> So, so the second thing you can do, which so the second thing you can do, which so the second thing you can do, which I've been experimenting with, which I've been experimenting with, which I've been experimenting with, which Tommy Wood uses all the time, especially Tommy Wood uses all the time, especially Tommy Wood uses all the time, especially when traveling, is blood flow when traveling, is blood flow when traveling, is blood flow restriction cuffs. restriction cuffs. restriction cuffs. >> Yes. And so >> Yes. And so >> Yes. And so >> I used to have some of those before my >> I used to have some of those before my >> I used to have some of those before my fire happened. So I would blood flow. I fire happened. So I would blood flow. I fire happened. So I would blood flow. I got the automatic ones that would got the automatic ones that would got the automatic ones that would automatically keep the pressure too. automatically keep the pressure too. automatically keep the pressure too. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not going to >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not going to >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not going to be you don't use like a hand pump. I've be you don't use like a hand pump. I've be you don't use like a hand pump. I've got the I'm using the Katsu. got the I'm using the Katsu. got the I'm using the Katsu. >> Yeah. Mine more digital katu. Yeah. >> Yeah. Mine more digital katu. Yeah. >> Yeah. Mine more digital katu. Yeah. >> A TSU C4. I'm using the C4 cuz I'm like >> A TSU C4. I'm using the C4 cuz I'm like >> A TSU C4. I'm using the C4 cuz I'm like I don't want another app. Oh, I got the I don't want another app. Oh, I got the I don't want another app. Oh, I got the app. app. app. >> That's nice. >> That's nice. >> That's nice. >> No. Like look, if people want apps, they >> No. Like look, if people want apps, they >> No. Like look, if people want apps, they can. I'm kind of along the Bill Burr can. I'm kind of along the Bill Burr can. I'm kind of along the Bill Burr lines of like I need to install a lines of like I need to install a lines of like I need to install a [ __ ] app to use my toaster now. Like [ __ ] app to use my toaster now. Like [ __ ] app to use my toaster now. Like please shoot me. My hummingbird feeder. please shoot me. My hummingbird feeder. please shoot me. My hummingbird feeder. Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that. Let me Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that. Let me Oh, yeah. We'll talk about that. Let me finish the blood flow restriction. Jeez, finish the blood flow restriction. Jeez, finish the blood flow restriction. Jeez, >> we're all over the place. All right. So, >> we're all over the place. All right. So, >> we're all over the place. All right. So, the blood flow restriction, all it is, the blood flow restriction, all it is, the blood flow restriction, all it is, it's a cuff. It inflates and it's it it's a cuff. It inflates and it's it it's a cuff. It inflates and it's it causes partial occlusion, right? It's causes partial occlusion, right? It's causes partial occlusion, right? It's cutting off circulation to your arms or cutting off circulation to your arms or cutting off circulation to your arms or your legs. And there's a lot of really your legs. And there's a lot of really your legs. And there's a lot of really good science on this. So, you you can good science on this. So, you you can good science on this. So, you you can check it out. But what you can do when check it out. But what you can do when check it out. But what you can do when traveling, and I'm trying this right traveling, and I'm trying this right traveling, and I'm trying this right now, Tommy Wood, by the way, is a now, Tommy Wood, by the way, is a now, Tommy Wood, by the way, is a phenomenal athlete, endurance and phenomenal athlete, endurance and phenomenal athlete, endurance and strongman. in addition to being an strongman. in addition to being an strongman. in addition to being an incredible researcher. I don't know incredible researcher. I don't know incredible researcher. I don't know where they breed these people. Like where they breed these people. Like where they breed these people. Like Dominic Dagustinino, same thing. Like Dominic Dagustinino, same thing. Like Dominic Dagustinino, same thing. Like 500 pound deadlift for 10 reps after a 500 pound deadlift for 10 reps after a 500 pound deadlift for 10 reps after a seven-day fast. Like, who are these seven-day fast. Like, who are these seven-day fast. Like, who are these people? people? people? >> Anyway, Tommy's Tommy's a beast. >> Anyway, Tommy's Tommy's a beast. >> Anyway, Tommy's Tommy's a beast. >> When he's traveling >> When he's traveling >> When he's traveling >> and he doesn't lose muscle when he's >> and he doesn't lose muscle when he's >> and he doesn't lose muscle when he's doing this, he'll use blood flow doing this, he'll use blood flow doing this, he'll use blood flow restriction and he'll bring bands. He'll restriction and he'll bring bands. He'll restriction and he'll bring bands. He'll just have a bunch of And I got I like to just have a bunch of And I got I like to just have a bunch of And I got I like to think of myself as reasonably strong. think of myself as reasonably strong. think of myself as reasonably strong. I'm not a world class powerlifter, but I'm not a world class powerlifter, but I'm not a world class powerlifter, but like I think like generally pretty like I think like generally pretty like I think like generally pretty strong. strong. strong. >> I put on those cuffs today and I was >> I put on those cuffs today and I was >> I put on those cuffs today and I was like I think I'll just bump it from like I think I'll just bump it from like I think I'll just bump it from light up to medium light up to medium light up to medium >> like 20 lbs. >> like 20 lbs. >> like 20 lbs. >> Well, it's it has a different metric. It >> Well, it's it has a different metric. It >> Well, it's it has a different metric. It has a different has a different has a different >> the band band strength. >> the band band strength. >> the band band strength. >> Yeah. In terms of I there's >> Yeah. In terms of I there's >> Yeah. In terms of I there's >> extra large or extra strong or whatever. >> extra large or extra strong or whatever. >> extra large or extra strong or whatever. >> I can't remember. Yeah, I mean it's if >> I can't remember. Yeah, I mean it's if >> I can't remember. Yeah, I mean it's if you use the Katsu bands, there are many you use the Katsu bands, there are many you use the Katsu bands, there are many other brands. Tommy uses a different other brands. Tommy uses a different other brands. Tommy uses a different brand you can find in the podcast brand you can find in the podcast brand you can find in the podcast included in the show notes, but suffice included in the show notes, but suffice included in the show notes, but suffice to say, it's like you're using very, to say, it's like you're using very, to say, it's like you're using very, very light weights and it's like I can very light weights and it's like I can very light weights and it's like I can probably do hamburger curls with like 40 probably do hamburger curls with like 40 probably do hamburger curls with like 40 lb dumbbells. Let's just say lb dumbbells. Let's just say lb dumbbells. Let's just say >> with those on. >> with those on. >> with those on. >> No, that's what I was going to say. >> No, that's what I was going to say. >> No, that's what I was going to say. That's way too much weight. That's way too much weight. That's way too much weight. >> I'm saying normally, right, with >> I'm saying normally, right, with >> I'm saying normally, right, with reasonable cadence, not swinging around, reasonable cadence, not swinging around, reasonable cadence, not swinging around, I can probably do hammer curls like with I can probably do hammer curls like with I can probably do hammer curls like with 40 lbs without too much trouble. uh with 40 lbs without too much trouble. uh with 40 lbs without too much trouble. uh with the [clears throat] blood flow the [clears throat] blood flow the [clears throat] blood flow restriction bands on restriction bands on restriction bands on >> like like literally 20 pounds is all you >> like like literally 20 pounds is all you >> like like literally 20 pounds is all you need. need. need. >> Oh, 10 pounds. >> Oh, 10 pounds. >> Oh, 10 pounds. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I was doing like 30 reps and then >> And I was doing like 30 reps and then >> And I was doing like 30 reps and then take 15 second rest then 20 reps. 15 take 15 second rest then 20 reps. 15 take 15 second rest then 20 reps. 15 second rest like 10 to 15 reps. second rest like 10 to 15 reps. second rest like 10 to 15 reps. >> So you have the C4s. These these bad >> So you have the C4s. These these bad >> So you have the C4s. These these bad boys. boys. boys. >> I've got the C4s. Yeah. And uh and look, >> I've got the C4s. Yeah. And uh and look, >> I've got the C4s. Yeah. And uh and look, Katu is expensive. These are what Katu is expensive. These are what Katu is expensive. These are what $1,259. $1,259. $1,259. Like that is expensive. There are other Like that is expensive. There are other Like that is expensive. There are other options that are not that expensive. options that are not that expensive. options that are not that expensive. But then the one that really was But then the one that really was But then the one that really was humbling is I was I was like, "Okay, humbling is I was I was like, "Okay, humbling is I was I was like, "Okay, I'll just do push-ups for like triceps, I'll just do push-ups for like triceps, I'll just do push-ups for like triceps, right?" Just to because I only brought right?" Just to because I only brought right?" Just to because I only brought the armbands. I didn't bring the leg the armbands. I didn't bring the leg the armbands. I didn't bring the leg bands and everything. This time around, bands and everything. This time around, bands and everything. This time around, >> I can just do like walking lunges. Trust >> I can just do like walking lunges. Trust >> I can just do like walking lunges. Trust me, you can smoke yourself doing those. me, you can smoke yourself doing those. me, you can smoke yourself doing those. But was doing push-ups and I was like, But was doing push-ups and I was like, But was doing push-ups and I was like, "Well, let me start moderate. I'll just "Well, let me start moderate. I'll just "Well, let me start moderate. I'll just start on like a bench that's about 18 in start on like a bench that's about 18 in start on like a bench that's about 18 in off the ground. I'll do some push-ups." off the ground. I'll do some push-ups." off the ground. I'll do some push-ups." And I did like 25 and I was like, "Wow, And I did like 25 and I was like, "Wow, And I did like 25 and I was like, "Wow, that's a lot harder than I would that's a lot harder than I would that's a lot harder than I would expect." Right? cuz like on the ground I expect." Right? cuz like on the ground I expect." Right? cuz like on the ground I could probably do I don't know 40 like could probably do I don't know 40 like could probably do I don't know 40 like good form 50 push-ups good form 50 push-ups good form 50 push-ups >> and I did I did 25 I was like wow that's >> and I did I did 25 I was like wow that's >> and I did I did 25 I was like wow that's uncomfortable and then I went to do the uncomfortable and then I went to do the uncomfortable and then I went to do the next set got like five and I was like oh next set got like five and I was like oh next set got like five and I was like oh I can't do it and so I I then I I I can't do it and so I I then I I I can't do it and so I I then I I increased my basically elevated myself increased my basically elevated myself increased my basically elevated myself to make it easier right and I'm doing it to make it easier right and I'm doing it to make it easier right and I'm doing it on like the the seat of a hamstring curl on like the the seat of a hamstring curl on like the the seat of a hamstring curl machine did like 12 couldn't do anymore machine did like 12 couldn't do anymore machine did like 12 couldn't do anymore and then I got I got to the point where and then I got I got to the point where and then I got I got to the point where I was literally doing push-ups it's so I was literally doing push-ups it's so I was literally doing push-ups it's so humbling on like the railing of stairs. humbling on like the railing of stairs. humbling on like the railing of stairs. I was like I'm basically standing up I was like I'm basically standing up I was like I'm basically standing up straight and I did 30 reps and I was straight and I did 30 reps and I was straight and I did 30 reps and I was like like like >> this okay really >> this okay really >> this okay really >> real quick >> real quick >> real quick >> keeps your ego in check. >> keeps your ego in check. >> keeps your ego in check. >> 20 second version. Why is it working? >> 20 second version. Why is it working? >> 20 second version. Why is it working? Why is restricting blood flow working? Why is restricting blood flow working? Why is restricting blood flow working? Why is it building more muscle? Why is it building more muscle? Why is it building more muscle? >> Well, it's it's doing a few different >> Well, it's it's doing a few different >> Well, it's it's doing a few different things. It's also increasing like things. It's also increasing like things. It's also increasing like capillary density and vasculature. So, capillary density and vasculature. So, capillary density and vasculature. So, it's having a whole host of effects. I it's having a whole host of effects. I it's having a whole host of effects. I to be honest, to be honest, to be honest, >> but doesn't it increase HGH as well >> but doesn't it increase HGH as well >> but doesn't it increase HGH as well localized? It might. It makes you sweat localized? It might. It makes you sweat localized? It might. It makes you sweat your balls off too. your balls off too. your balls off too. >> That's another question. Not to get too >> That's another question. Not to get too >> That's another question. Not to get too technical, but technical, but technical, but >> could it work? Could that work? >> could it work? Could that work? >> could it work? Could that work? [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Kevin's asking me if you could use >> Kevin's asking me if you could use >> Kevin's asking me if you could use restriction. restriction. restriction. >> I didn't want to bring it up unless >> I didn't want to bring it up unless >> I didn't want to bring it up unless unless unless unless >> So, listen. I think it sounds like a >> So, listen. I think it sounds like a >> So, listen. I think it sounds like a terrible idea. terrible idea. terrible idea. >> No, listen. They have rings that you can >> No, listen. They have rings that you can >> No, listen. They have rings that you can put around your schws put around your schws put around your schws >> and and but listen, hear me out. I I >> and and but listen, hear me out. I I >> and and but listen, hear me out. I I know. know. know. >> I just literally Googled that there is >> I just literally Googled that there is >> I just literally Googled that there is smooth muscle tissue in there. smooth muscle tissue in there. smooth muscle tissue in there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you were telling me that you're >> If you were telling me that you're >> If you were telling me that you're putting bands on your arms, doing lifts, putting bands on your arms, doing lifts, putting bands on your arms, doing lifts, >> how are you going to do lifts with your >> how are you going to do lifts with your >> how are you going to do lifts with your Schwans? Schwans? Schwans? >> You have to have a slunk erection >> You have to have a slunk erection >> You have to have a slunk erection >> and then you do like some Shellin monk >> and then you do like some Shellin monk >> and then you do like some Shellin monk like like like >> you have the I'm just saying this is >> you have the I'm just saying this is >> you have the I'm just saying this is theory. theory. theory. >> Oh, I guess you could like do manual >> Oh, I guess you could like do manual >> Oh, I guess you could like do manual resistance. You could push it down and resistance. You could push it down and resistance. You could push it down and then bring it [laughter] back up. then bring it [laughter] back up. then bring it [laughter] back up. >> 5 seconds down. 5 seconds. crazy is like >> 5 seconds down. 5 seconds. crazy is like >> 5 seconds down. 5 seconds. crazy is like we obviously everyone knows this is a we obviously everyone knows this is a we obviously everyone knows this is a joke but it might not be. You know what joke but it might not be. You know what joke but it might not be. You know what I mean? [laughter] I mean? [laughter] I mean? [laughter] Like this could be real. Like this could be real. Like this could be real. >> Do not do not Yeah. Do not wrap. >> Do not do not Yeah. Do not wrap. >> Do not do not Yeah. Do not wrap. >> Well, they have rings that they sell at >> Well, they have rings that they sell at >> Well, they have rings that they sell at stores. stores. stores. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think you can you >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think you can you >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think you can you can try that and then report back in the can try that and then report back in the can try that and then report back in the next. next. next. >> Have you ever used one of the rings? >> Have you ever used one of the rings? >> Have you ever used one of the rings? >> I don't think so. >> I don't think so. >> I don't think so. >> You have to. >> You have to. >> You have to. >> No. I mean, I would. Why not? >> No. I mean, I would. Why not? >> No. I mean, I would. Why not? >> Yeah. I mean, why not? >> Yeah. I mean, why not? >> Yeah. I mean, why not? >> As long as you're not going to like >> As long as you're not going to like >> As long as you're not going to like completely It's not going to just like completely It's not going to just like completely It's not going to just like fall off. Apparently, it's so it locks fall off. Apparently, it's so it locks fall off. Apparently, it's so it locks the blood in. the blood in. the blood in. >> Well, obviously. Yeah. >> Well, obviously. Yeah. >> Well, obviously. Yeah. >> Well, obviously for people that don't >> Well, obviously for people that don't >> Well, obviously for people that don't know preiagram. know preiagram. know preiagram. >> We're talking about [ __ ] We're >> We're talking about [ __ ] We're >> We're talking about [ __ ] We're speaking in [ __ ] [laughter] riddles speaking in [ __ ] [laughter] riddles speaking in [ __ ] [laughter] riddles here. Like that's what they're called. here. Like that's what they're called. here. Like that's what they're called. >> We're speaking. >> We're speaking. >> We're speaking. What is the sound of one? What is the sound of one? What is the sound of one? >> Yeah. Okay. Really [ __ ] went in the >> Yeah. Okay. Really [ __ ] went in the >> Yeah. Okay. Really [ __ ] went in the gutter. gutter. gutter. >> Yeah. Quickly. What was the end of the >> Yeah. Quickly. What was the end of the >> Yeah. Quickly. What was the end of the episode? So, episode? So, episode? So, >> hummingbirds. Hummingbirds. >> hummingbirds. Hummingbirds. >> hummingbirds. Hummingbirds. >> Okay. So, before we started the show, >> Okay. So, before we started the show, >> Okay. So, before we started the show, Tim's like, "You got to mention the Tim's like, "You got to mention the Tim's like, "You got to mention the hummingbirds." hummingbirds." hummingbirds." >> I looked at your your your draft and I >> I looked at your your your draft and I >> I looked at your your your draft and I was like, "You got to talk about your was like, "You got to talk about your was like, "You got to talk about your hummingbird thing. You sent me watching hummingbird thing. You sent me watching hummingbird thing. You sent me watching these videos, these videos, these videos, >> dude. They're so cool. Okay, so >> dude. They're so cool. Okay, so >> dude. They're so cool. Okay, so essentially for Christmas, I got my my essentially for Christmas, I got my my essentially for Christmas, I got my my kids a hummingbird feeder with a digital kids a hummingbird feeder with a digital kids a hummingbird feeder with a digital camera built in. And the cool thing camera built in. And the cool thing camera built in. And the cool thing about it is it charges from the sunlight about it is it charges from the sunlight about it is it charges from the sunlight and then also so the camera just always and then also so the camera just always and then also so the camera just always stays on and then also it detects what stays on and then also it detects what stays on and then also it detects what in this case it's a hummingbird but they in this case it's a hummingbird but they in this case it's a hummingbird but they have for normal birds as well but it'll have for normal birds as well but it'll have for normal birds as well but it'll tell you the variety of hummingbird that tell you the variety of hummingbird that tell you the variety of hummingbird that landed and then uses AI and then you can landed and then uses AI and then you can landed and then uses AI and then you can name them and so we have one name Tony's name them and so we have one name Tony's name them and so we have one name Tony's back. back. back. >> Yeah, exactly. We have one named sunset. >> Yeah, exactly. We have one named sunset. >> Yeah, exactly. We have one named sunset. Our girls named the sunset cuz it has Our girls named the sunset cuz it has Our girls named the sunset cuz it has this beautiful red neck this beautiful red neck this beautiful red neck >> and I'll get a text notification. Sunset >> and I'll get a text notification. Sunset >> and I'll get a text notification. Sunset is drinking with you. That's the oneird is drinking with you. That's the oneird is drinking with you. That's the oneird Bird Buddy Smart Solar Pro hummingbird Bird Buddy Smart Solar Pro hummingbird Bird Buddy Smart Solar Pro hummingbird feeder. feeder. feeder. >> And it's fun, people, cuz you these >> And it's fun, people, cuz you these >> And it's fun, people, cuz you these things are so beautiful. And things are so beautiful. And things are so beautiful. And >> the videos are amazing. >> the videos are amazing. >> the videos are amazing. >> The videos are amazing. And then they >> The videos are amazing. And then they >> The videos are amazing. And then they play with each other and you watch them play with each other and you watch them play with each other and you watch them hovering and you get full audio. So you hovering and you get full audio. So you hovering and you get full audio. So you you see the little tiny tongues like you see the little tiny tongues like you see the little tiny tongues like sticking out. It's it's just amazing. sticking out. It's it's just amazing. sticking out. It's it's just amazing. It's really cool. It's really cool. It's really cool. >> Videos were quite cool. Then I got the >> Videos were quite cool. Then I got the >> Videos were quite cool. Then I got the one that is for just standard birds one that is for just standard birds one that is for just standard birds which has bird feed that comes down and which has bird feed that comes down and which has bird feed that comes down and [ __ ] squirrels are taking it [ __ ] squirrels are taking it [ __ ] squirrels are taking it over. over. over. >> Oh, they're just >> Oh, they're just >> Oh, they're just >> they are ruthless. There is they jump >> they are ruthless. There is they jump >> they are ruthless. There is they jump like there's nothing you can do to keep like there's nothing you can do to keep like there's nothing you can do to keep them out of it. Like they they will them out of it. Like they they will them out of it. Like they they will spring onto it and then you see they're spring onto it and then you see they're spring onto it and then you see they're like sadly they look out cuz they don't like sadly they look out cuz they don't like sadly they look out cuz they don't want to get attacked. want to get attacked. want to get attacked. >> And so you just all I have is squirrel >> And so you just all I have is squirrel >> And so you just all I have is squirrel ass on my freaking camera. I'm like god ass on my freaking camera. I'm like god ass on my freaking camera. I'm like god damn it. Like how do I get rid of the damn it. Like how do I get rid of the damn it. Like how do I get rid of the squirrels? Have you heard of Mark squirrels? Have you heard of Mark squirrels? Have you heard of Mark Robber? Does this name any of you Robber? Does this name any of you Robber? Does this name any of you >> who created like the ultimate squirrel >> who created like the ultimate squirrel >> who created like the ultimate squirrel ninja warrior course in his backyard? ninja warrior course in his backyard? ninja warrior course in his backyard? Put on YouTube. Let me let me Yeah, Put on YouTube. Let me let me Yeah, Put on YouTube. Let me let me Yeah, there we go. All right. Mark Robber there we go. All right. Mark Robber there we go. All right. Mark Robber squirrels. I think he had the same squirrels. I think he had the same squirrels. I think he had the same problem. Here we go. Backyard squirrel problem. Here we go. Backyard squirrel problem. Here we go. Backyard squirrel maze 1.0 ninja warrior course [laughter] maze 1.0 ninja warrior course [laughter] maze 1.0 ninja warrior course [laughter] to keep them out. to keep them out. to keep them out. >> You'll have to check this out. H no ads. >> You'll have to check this out. H no ads. >> You'll have to check this out. H no ads. No free ads. No free ads. No free ads. >> I got to pay for my pro. Yeah, you're >> I got to pay for my pro. Yeah, you're >> I got to pay for my pro. Yeah, you're not paying the $5. not paying the $5. not paying the $5. >> You're buying $7,000 Japanese vintage >> You're buying $7,000 Japanese vintage >> You're buying $7,000 Japanese vintage jackets. So, you don't pay $5 to get rid jackets. So, you don't pay $5 to get rid jackets. So, you don't pay $5 to get rid of these goddamn ads. of these goddamn ads. of these goddamn ads. >> All right, so here. Hold on a sec. >> All right, so here. Hold on a sec. >> All right, so here. Hold on a sec. >> Yeah, look at this setup. This is like >> Yeah, look at this setup. This is like >> Yeah, look at this setup. This is like Mr. Beast for squirrels. It's Oh, yeah. Mr. Beast for squirrels. It's Oh, yeah. Mr. Beast for squirrels. It's Oh, yeah. Look, these guys just get Look, these guys just get Look, these guys just get >> God. It's totally Mr. Beast for >> God. It's totally Mr. Beast for >> God. It's totally Mr. Beast for squirrels. Like, you have them do all squirrels. Like, you have them do all squirrels. Like, you have them do all these obstacle courses. these obstacle courses. these obstacle courses. >> They stick their head through and then >> They stick their head through and then >> They stick their head through and then they get a photo taken. [laughter] All right, we'll link to that. All right, we'll link to that. >> People, you have to watch this video. >> People, you have to watch this video. >> People, you have to watch this video. >> Backyard squirrel maze 1.0 by Mark >> Backyard squirrel maze 1.0 by Mark >> Backyard squirrel maze 1.0 by Mark Robber. R O B E R 144 million view. Robber. R O B E R 144 million view. Robber. R O B E R 144 million view. >> See, this is the kind of [ __ ] where I'm >> See, this is the kind of [ __ ] where I'm >> See, this is the kind of [ __ ] where I'm like, I [laughter] should have come up like, I [laughter] should have come up like, I [laughter] should have come up with this idea. Like, this is too good. with this idea. Like, this is too good. with this idea. Like, this is too good. >> All right, >> All right, >> All right, >> solid hummingbirds and [ __ ] >> solid hummingbirds and [ __ ] >> solid hummingbirds and [ __ ] >> Yeah, we covered it all this time, >> Yeah, we covered it all this time, >> Yeah, we covered it all this time, people. people. people. >> You say the random show, brother. Good >> You say the random show, brother. Good >> You say the random show, brother. Good to see you. to see you. to see you. >> Yeah, good to see you, too, man. >> Yeah, good to see you, too, man. >> Yeah, good to see you, too, man. >> Glad you're glad you're feeling better. >> Glad you're glad you're feeling better. >> Glad you're glad you're feeling better. And And And >> to be continued. >> to be continued. >> to be continued. >> To be continued. >> To be continued. >> To be continued. >> All right, folks. We'll put everything >> All right, folks. We'll put everything >> All right, folks. We'll put everything in the show notes. Tim.blog/podcast. in the show notes. Tim.blog/podcast. in the show notes. Tim.blog/podcast. Uh, random show. It's going to be one of Uh, random show. It's going to be one of Uh, random show. It's going to be one of those. Search for [ __ ] rings. It'll be those. Search for [ __ ] rings. It'll be those. Search for [ __ ] rings. It'll be the only result on Tim. [laughter] Blog. the only result on Tim. [laughter] Blog. the only result on Tim. [laughter] Blog. And until next time, take care of And until next time, take care of And until next time, take care of yourselves. Be nice. yourselves. Be nice. yourselves. Be nice. >> Be a little kinder than is necessary to >> Be a little kinder than is necessary to >> Be a little kinder than is necessary to yourselves yourselves yourselves >> and to others.