The Peptide Expert: Big Pharma Are Hiding This Powerful Peptide From You! - Dr. Alex Tatem

This may be the most controversial thing This may be the most controversial thing we have on this table. This is peptide we have on this table. This is peptide we have on this table. This is peptide [music] that actually tortures belly fat [music] that actually tortures belly fat [music] that actually tortures belly fat at a disproportionate rate. And what we at a disproportionate rate. And what we at a disproportionate rate. And what we found is not only do patients lose an found is not only do patients lose an found is not only do patients lose an incredible amount of weight, but they incredible amount of weight, but they incredible amount of weight, but they also get the best improvements we've also get the best improvements we've also get the best improvements we've ever seen in their liver health. It's ever seen in their liver health. It's ever seen in their liver health. It's absolutely wild, and I think this is absolutely wild, and I think this is absolutely wild, and I think this is going to be a trillion-dollar [music] going to be a trillion-dollar [music] going to be a trillion-dollar [music] drug when it comes out. I have brought drug when it comes out. I have brought drug when it comes out. I have brought you here because you're an expert on you here because you're an expert on you here because you're an expert on this subject, and it's worth saying that this subject, and it's worth saying that this subject, and it's worth saying that there was some significant news about there was some significant news about there was some significant news about this. Correct. From the FDA saying that this. Correct. From the FDA saying that this. Correct. From the FDA saying that in July they are going to consider in July they are going to consider in July they are going to consider legalizing seven peptides. And by legalizing seven peptides. And by legalizing seven peptides. And by pharma's estimate, it might be the most pharma's estimate, it might be the most pharma's estimate, it might be the most dangerous thing to their entire business dangerous thing to their entire business dangerous thing to their entire business model. [music] So, do you think it is model. [music] So, do you think it is model. [music] So, do you think it is plausible that big pharma didn't want plausible that big pharma didn't want plausible that big pharma didn't want these in the hands of regular people these in the hands of regular people these in the hands of regular people because they can't patent this and it's because they can't patent this and it's because they can't patent this and it's powerful? 110% because the question powerful? 110% because the question powerful? 110% because the question isn't what can peptides do, it's what isn't what can peptides do, it's what isn't what can peptides do, it's what can't they do. And we've got several can't they do. And we've got several can't they do. And we've got several peptides here in front of us. I don't peptides here in front of us. I don't peptides here in front of us. I don't want to go through all of them. want to go through all of them. want to go through all of them. Let's do it. So, this is probably the Let's do it. So, this is probably the Let's do it. So, this is probably the most well-known peptide for skin most well-known peptide for skin most well-known peptide for skin complexion, and it improves quality of complexion, and it improves quality of complexion, and it improves quality of hair and nails. And then epithalon is hair and nails. And then epithalon is hair and nails. And then epithalon is maybe maybe not going to be the fountain maybe maybe not going to be the fountain maybe maybe not going to be the fountain of youth, but I'm very skeptical as far of youth, but I'm very skeptical as far of youth, but I'm very skeptical as far as that goes. Next, we've got this. And as that goes. Next, we've got this. And as that goes. Next, we've got this. And if you injected that at night, it would if you injected that at night, it would if you injected that at night, it would improve your quality of your sleep. improve your quality of your sleep. improve your quality of your sleep. Next, melanotan two. And this will Next, melanotan two. And this will Next, melanotan two. And this will actually end up giving you a deep tan in actually end up giving you a deep tan in actually end up giving you a deep tan in [music] response to just a little bit of [music] response to just a little bit of [music] response to just a little bit of UV sun exposure. It'll also give you UV sun exposure. It'll also give you UV sun exposure. It'll also give you some of the most impressive erections some of the most impressive erections some of the most impressive erections you've ever had in your life, so be you've ever had in your life, so be you've ever had in your life, so be warned. And what else have we got? warned. And what else have we got? warned. And what else have we got? >> Oh my gosh. There's methylene blue where >> Oh my gosh. There's methylene blue where >> Oh my gosh. There's methylene blue where people take it and they think it's going people take it and they think it's going people take it and they think it's going to make them live forever. Don't take to make them live forever. Don't take to make them live forever. Don't take this. It literally will stain your nails this. It literally will stain your nails this. It literally will stain your nails blue and your hair blue. These two here blue and your hair blue. These two here blue and your hair blue. These two here stimulates building muscle. This one can stimulates building muscle. This one can stimulates building muscle. This one can aid with healing after an injury. And aid with healing after an injury. And aid with healing after an injury. And then is this. This. This. This. It's then is this. This. This. This. It's then is this. This. This. This. It's crazy. It's wild. So, why don't I take crazy. It's wild. So, why don't I take crazy. It's wild. So, why don't I take it? Well, we need to talk about that it? Well, we need to talk about that it? Well, we need to talk about that because there are trade-offs. But also because there are trade-offs. But also because there are trade-offs. But also Outside of the world of peptides for a Outside of the world of peptides for a Outside of the world of peptides for a second, I've got these three vials. Do second, I've got these three vials. Do second, I've got these three vials. 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Let's get on with the show. the show. the show. >> [music] >> Dr. Alex Tatem. >> Dr. Alex Tatem. There's this word that has exploded in There's this word that has exploded in There's this word that has exploded in society in recent times. In fact, when I society in recent times. In fact, when I society in recent times. In fact, when I look at the data, look at the data, look at the data, people searching this word has increased people searching this word has increased people searching this word has increased by 400% by 400% by 400% just recently and that word is peptides. just recently and that word is peptides. just recently and that word is peptides. I have no idea what peptides are. I'm I have no idea what peptides are. I'm I have no idea what peptides are. I'm someone that wants to be healthy, that someone that wants to be healthy, that someone that wants to be healthy, that wants to optimize my health, wants to wants to optimize my health, wants to wants to optimize my health, wants to live long, doesn't doesn't love aging. live long, doesn't doesn't love aging. live long, doesn't doesn't love aging. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm told that this word peptides is And I'm told that this word peptides is And I'm told that this word peptides is somewhat linked to it. So, I've brought somewhat linked to it. So, I've brought somewhat linked to it. So, I've brought you here because you're an expert on the you here because you're an expert on the you here because you're an expert on the subject, man. I've watched your videos subject, man. I've watched your videos subject, man. I've watched your videos on YouTube. on YouTube. on YouTube. To start at the very beginning, Dr. To start at the very beginning, Dr. To start at the very beginning, Dr. Alex, Sure. what the hell is a peptide? Alex, Sure. what the hell is a peptide? Alex, Sure. what the hell is a peptide? Peptides are a structural class of Peptides are a structural class of Peptides are a structural class of medications. The best way to think about medications. The best way to think about medications. The best way to think about peptides is that just like we have small peptides is that just like we have small peptides is that just like we have small molecules which are drugs that are very molecules which are drugs that are very molecules which are drugs that are very small, taken in a pill, and have a small, taken in a pill, and have a small, taken in a pill, and have a wide-ranging effect throughout the body. wide-ranging effect throughout the body. wide-ranging effect throughout the body. Peptides are derived from little pieces Peptides are derived from little pieces Peptides are derived from little pieces of amino acids, which think of them as of amino acids, which think of them as of amino acids, which think of them as the Legos that make up the human body, the Legos that make up the human body, the Legos that make up the human body, the Legos that make up proteins. These the Legos that make up proteins. These the Legos that make up proteins. These are fragments of proteins that are are fragments of proteins that are are fragments of proteins that are designed to specifically target certain designed to specifically target certain designed to specifically target certain receptors and affect cells in a very receptors and affect cells in a very receptors and affect cells in a very targeted fashion. Or a best way to think targeted fashion. Or a best way to think targeted fashion. Or a best way to think about it is a very specific targeted key about it is a very specific targeted key about it is a very specific targeted key to unlock a very specific lock. So, to unlock a very specific lock. So, to unlock a very specific lock. So, instead of a small molecule that may instead of a small molecule that may instead of a small molecule that may have a wide-ranging effect throughout have a wide-ranging effect throughout have a wide-ranging effect throughout the body, peptides are much, much more the body, peptides are much, much more the body, peptides are much, much more focused. So, you've got different types focused. So, you've got different types focused. So, you've got different types of Lego cubes here. Would they be of Lego cubes here. Would they be of Lego cubes here. Would they be different types of peptides or are they different types of peptides or are they different types of peptides or are they different types of amino acids that come different types of amino acids that come different types of amino acids that come together to make a peptide? together to make a peptide? together to make a peptide? >> The best way to think about it is my son >> The best way to think about it is my son >> The best way to think about it is my son loves Legos, which is why I'm glad that loves Legos, which is why I'm glad that loves Legos, which is why I'm glad that we have these here. But, he can take the we have these here. But, he can take the we have these here. But, he can take the same set of Legos and he can build a same set of Legos and he can build a same set of Legos and he can build a rocket ship. And then, just a few rocket ship. And then, just a few rocket ship. And then, just a few minutes later, he can build a pirate minutes later, he can build a pirate minutes later, he can build a pirate ship. And then, he builds a race car. ship. And then, he builds a race car. ship. And then, he builds a race car. He's using the same Legos, but he's He's using the same Legos, but he's He's using the same Legos, but he's creating very, very different things creating very, very different things creating very, very different things that all do very, different things. And that all do very, different things. And that all do very, different things. And so, peptides have become incredibly so, peptides have become incredibly so, peptides have become incredibly popular because, yes, we have some popular because, yes, we have some popular because, yes, we have some really fascinating peptides that can really fascinating peptides that can really fascinating peptides that can help with anti-aging, with healing, and help with anti-aging, with healing, and help with anti-aging, with healing, and with tissue repair. We're going to talk with tissue repair. We're going to talk with tissue repair. We're going to talk about some of those, hopefully. But, about some of those, hopefully. But, about some of those, hopefully. But, they can do so much more than that. The they can do so much more than that. The they can do so much more than that. The first peptide that was actually isolated first peptide that was actually isolated first peptide that was actually isolated and used in medicine was insulin back in and used in medicine was insulin back in and used in medicine was insulin back in 1921. 1921. 1921. And then, all the way in 1985, in the And then, all the way in 1985, in the And then, all the way in 1985, in the world of urology, which is where I was world of urology, which is where I was world of urology, which is where I was trained, we had Lupron, which is a trained, we had Lupron, which is a trained, we had Lupron, which is a different peptide that, again, also a different peptide that, again, also a different peptide that, again, also a peptide like insulin, but instead of peptide like insulin, but instead of peptide like insulin, but instead of having wide-ranging metabolic effects, having wide-ranging metabolic effects, having wide-ranging metabolic effects, it had an endocrine effect. It was it had an endocrine effect. It was it had an endocrine effect. It was designed to shut down the production of designed to shut down the production of designed to shut down the production of testosterone for prostate cancer testosterone for prostate cancer testosterone for prostate cancer patients that needed to have their patients that needed to have their patients that needed to have their testosterone taken away. Interesting. testosterone taken away. Interesting. testosterone taken away. Interesting. Okay, so insulin's a peptide. Insulin's Okay, so insulin's a peptide. Insulin's Okay, so insulin's a peptide. Insulin's a peptide. Because it's a series of a peptide. Because it's a series of a peptide. Because it's a series of amino acids. amino acids. amino acids. >> Amino acids that are put together. Okay, >> Amino acids that are put together. Okay, >> Amino acids that are put together. Okay, so you said that the combination of so you said that the combination of so you said that the combination of amino acids forms a key. So, what is the amino acids forms a key. So, what is the amino acids forms a key. So, what is the lock? The lock could be a cellular lock? The lock could be a cellular lock? The lock could be a cellular receptor. It could actually be receptor. It could actually be receptor. It could actually be regulating a certain pathway within the regulating a certain pathway within the regulating a certain pathway within the cell. Okay, so let me repeat this back cell. Okay, so let me repeat this back cell. Okay, so let me repeat this back to you to make sure I understand it. So, to you to make sure I understand it. So, to you to make sure I understand it. So, yes. yes. yes. >> Yes. Peptides are like a key, Yes. which >> Yes. Peptides are like a key, Yes. which >> Yes. Peptides are like a key, Yes. which you can make by configuring amino acids you can make by configuring amino acids you can make by configuring amino acids in a certain way, and there's different in a certain way, and there's different in a certain way, and there's different locks in our body that these keys can go locks in our body that these keys can go locks in our body that these keys can go into. So, if I take, you know, we've got into. So, if I take, you know, we've got into. So, if I take, you know, we've got some peptides on the table in front of some peptides on the table in front of some peptides on the table in front of us here. us here. us here. >> So, a good way to think about it is >> So, a good way to think about it is >> So, a good way to think about it is this. If you've got a hammer, right? this. If you've got a hammer, right? this. If you've got a hammer, right? Which is what a lot of small molecules Which is what a lot of small molecules Which is what a lot of small molecules are. Like you can do a lot with that, are. Like you can do a lot with that, are. Like you can do a lot with that, right? Like you could hammer in a nail. right? Like you could hammer in a nail. right? Like you could hammer in a nail. But if you try to use that hammer when But if you try to use that hammer when But if you try to use that hammer when you're trying to put in a screw, or you're trying to put in a screw, or you're trying to put in a screw, or you're trying to put together, you know, you're trying to put together, you know, you're trying to put together, you know, a table that you got from IKEA, it may a table that you got from IKEA, it may a table that you got from IKEA, it may not always end the way that you want to. not always end the way that you want to. not always end the way that you want to. And that's the problem that we have with And that's the problem that we have with And that's the problem that we have with a lot of small molecules. It's not that a lot of small molecules. It's not that a lot of small molecules. It's not that they don't do what we want them to. They they don't do what we want them to. They they don't do what we want them to. They do a lot of other things while they're do a lot of other things while they're do a lot of other things while they're at that job that can have significant at that job that can have significant at that job that can have significant negative side effects, which is why a negative side effects, which is why a negative side effects, which is why a lot of these small molecules actually lot of these small molecules actually lot of these small molecules actually don't make it all the way through the don't make it all the way through the don't make it all the way through the FDA approval process, because we find FDA approval process, because we find FDA approval process, because we find something, it does what we want it to something, it does what we want it to something, it does what we want it to but has significant safety concerns down but has significant safety concerns down but has significant safety concerns down the line. All right? Now, what we see the line. All right? Now, what we see the line. All right? Now, what we see with peptides, for example, I've got in with peptides, for example, I've got in with peptides, for example, I've got in my hand right now a little vial labeled, my hand right now a little vial labeled, my hand right now a little vial labeled, you know, BPC 157. This is probably one you know, BPC 157. This is probably one you know, BPC 157. This is probably one of the most popular peptides that we're of the most popular peptides that we're of the most popular peptides that we're talking about right now, because BPC 157 talking about right now, because BPC 157 talking about right now, because BPC 157 is a synthetic version of a naturally is a synthetic version of a naturally is a synthetic version of a naturally found peptide in the gut. But what this found peptide in the gut. But what this found peptide in the gut. But what this actually does is it enhances blood actually does is it enhances blood actually does is it enhances blood vessel growth in areas of injury. And it vessel growth in areas of injury. And it vessel growth in areas of injury. And it kind of makes sense, because if you kind of makes sense, because if you kind of makes sense, because if you think about it, our gut, our stomach, is think about it, our gut, our stomach, is think about it, our gut, our stomach, is really just this really just this really just this bag of acid that sits inside of our bag of acid that sits inside of our bag of acid that sits inside of our abdomen, and yet somehow you and I are abdomen, and yet somehow you and I are abdomen, and yet somehow you and I are here talking to each other and our here talking to each other and our here talking to each other and our bodies aren't eating themselves. Well, bodies aren't eating themselves. Well, bodies aren't eating themselves. Well, how does that work? Well, it's because how does that work? Well, it's because how does that work? Well, it's because we've developed a lot of really robust we've developed a lot of really robust we've developed a lot of really robust systems to encourage healing of the systems to encourage healing of the systems to encourage healing of the gastric lining. And so the idea is like, gastric lining. And so the idea is like, gastric lining. And so the idea is like, well, if this is one of the compounds well, if this is one of the compounds well, if this is one of the compounds that can help do that, it's been proven that can help do that, it's been proven that can help do that, it's been proven in multiple animal models. For example, in multiple animal models. For example, in multiple animal models. For example, they have completely transected the they have completely transected the they have completely transected the Achilles tendon in rats and then they Achilles tendon in rats and then they Achilles tendon in rats and then they transected transected so they've cut transected transected so they've cut transected transected so they've cut across the Achilles tendon. So not just across the Achilles tendon. So not just across the Achilles tendon. So not just a small injury that you or I might a small injury that you or I might a small injury that you or I might experience in the gym where we pull it experience in the gym where we pull it experience in the gym where we pull it or strain it, but actually surgically or strain it, but actually surgically or strain it, but actually surgically cut the Achilles tendon. And then they cut the Achilles tendon. And then they cut the Achilles tendon. And then they administer it to rats and they are administer it to rats and they are administer it to rats and they are healing spontaneously with healing spontaneously with healing spontaneously with administration of BPC 157. If you have administration of BPC 157. If you have administration of BPC 157. If you have an Achilles tendon injury and you're a an Achilles tendon injury and you're a an Achilles tendon injury and you're a rat, BPC 157 is one of the best things rat, BPC 157 is one of the best things rat, BPC 157 is one of the best things that you can ever have. Now, that is not that you can ever have. Now, that is not that you can ever have. Now, that is not a one-to-one translation to what we a one-to-one translation to what we a one-to-one translation to what we might see in humans, but as we talked might see in humans, but as we talked might see in humans, but as we talked about earlier with our point on safety, about earlier with our point on safety, about earlier with our point on safety, when they are studying BPC 157, we try when they are studying BPC 157, we try when they are studying BPC 157, we try to look for something called the LD1 or to look for something called the LD1 or to look for something called the LD1 or the LD50. How much can I give this to the LD50. How much can I give this to the LD50. How much can I give this to someone until 50% of the population that someone until 50% of the population that someone until 50% of the population that receives that dose doesn't do well or receives that dose doesn't do well or receives that dose doesn't do well or dies, okay? That's called the LD50 dose. dies, okay? That's called the LD50 dose. dies, okay? That's called the LD50 dose. We have yet to figure out what the LD1 We have yet to figure out what the LD1 We have yet to figure out what the LD1 dose is for this, which is dose is for this, which is dose is for this, which is the amount that it would take to hurt the amount that it would take to hurt the amount that it would take to hurt even 1% of the population because it is even 1% of the population because it is even 1% of the population because it is so incredibly well tolerated. So, just so incredibly well tolerated. So, just so incredibly well tolerated. So, just giving you an example of this is a giving you an example of this is a giving you an example of this is a compound that can have profound healing compound that can have profound healing compound that can have profound healing effects, at least in our animal models effects, at least in our animal models effects, at least in our animal models that we've seen so far, but so far we that we've seen so far, but so far we that we've seen so far, but so far we haven't seen any precipitous negative haven't seen any precipitous negative haven't seen any precipitous negative effects in human patients when taking effects in human patients when taking effects in human patients when taking this, okay? But we need more data. this, okay? But we need more data. this, okay? But we need more data. I am mind-blown and I'm very, very I am mind-blown and I'm very, very I am mind-blown and I'm very, very excited. We've got all of the several excited. We've got all of the several excited. We've got all of the several peptides here in front of us. I want to peptides here in front of us. I want to peptides here in front of us. I want to go through all of that and understand go through all of that and understand go through all of that and understand which ones do which things. which ones do which things. which ones do which things. >> Sure. But there's a bigger question >> Sure. But there's a bigger question >> Sure. But there's a bigger question here. here. here. >> Yes. Which is, why now? Why have the >> Yes. Which is, why now? Why have the >> Yes. Which is, why now? Why have the subject of peptides suddenly exploded subject of peptides suddenly exploded subject of peptides suddenly exploded into society's consciousness? What's into society's consciousness? What's into society's consciousness? What's going on? What's the big picture? So, going on? What's the big picture? So, going on? What's the big picture? So, this is really interesting. In 2013, this is really interesting. In 2013, this is really interesting. In 2013, there was actually a court case in the there was actually a court case in the there was actually a court case in the United States. It was the It was called United States. It was the It was called United States. It was the It was called Myriad Genetics case. This was the Myriad Genetics case. This was the Myriad Genetics case. This was the company that actually patented the BRCA1 company that actually patented the BRCA1 company that actually patented the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes. They discovered the and BRCA2 genes. They discovered the and BRCA2 genes. They discovered the genes that cause breast cancer, all genes that cause breast cancer, all genes that cause breast cancer, all right? This was mind-blowing. They right? This was mind-blowing. They right? This was mind-blowing. They identified the specific genes that would identified the specific genes that would identified the specific genes that would predispose patients to developing both predispose patients to developing both predispose patients to developing both breast, ovarian, and since we've learned breast, ovarian, and since we've learned breast, ovarian, and since we've learned also prostate cancer. It was a fantastic also prostate cancer. It was a fantastic also prostate cancer. It was a fantastic discovery, but they patented it. And discovery, but they patented it. And discovery, but they patented it. And they said, "We now own this intellectual they said, "We now own this intellectual they said, "We now own this intellectual property." And then everyone else said, property." And then everyone else said, property." And then everyone else said, "No, no, no, that's that's the human "No, no, no, that's that's the human "No, no, no, that's that's the human body. You can't patent that." And the body. You can't patent that." And the body. You can't patent that." And the Supreme Court actually sided with that Supreme Court actually sided with that Supreme Court actually sided with that argument, saying that if something is argument, saying that if something is argument, saying that if something is natural, it's found within us, okay? I natural, it's found within us, okay? I natural, it's found within us, okay? I can't patent, you know, your muscle can't patent, you know, your muscle can't patent, you know, your muscle cells, right? Which is a wonderful cells, right? Which is a wonderful cells, right? Which is a wonderful thing. But the unintended unintentional thing. But the unintended unintentional thing. But the unintended unintentional byproduct of that is all of a sudden byproduct of that is all of a sudden byproduct of that is all of a sudden pharma had no incentive whatsoever to pharma had no incentive whatsoever to pharma had no incentive whatsoever to pursue really promising compounds that pursue really promising compounds that pursue really promising compounds that they could not monetize. So, that they could not monetize. So, that they could not monetize. So, that happens in 2013. At the same time, I happens in 2013. At the same time, I happens in 2013. At the same time, I believe it was around 2012, 2013, there believe it was around 2012, 2013, there believe it was around 2012, 2013, there was a terrible event that happened in was a terrible event that happened in was a terrible event that happened in New England where there was a New England where there was a New England where there was a compounding pharmacy that was not doing compounding pharmacy that was not doing compounding pharmacy that was not doing the right thing, and they ended up the right thing, and they ended up the right thing, and they ended up having a bunch of contaminated specimens having a bunch of contaminated specimens having a bunch of contaminated specimens that caused a fungal meningitis. Bunch that caused a fungal meningitis. Bunch that caused a fungal meningitis. Bunch of patients got really sick. It was a of patients got really sick. It was a of patients got really sick. It was a huge scandal. And all of a sudden the huge scandal. And all of a sudden the huge scandal. And all of a sudden the FDA stepped in and said, "Hey, FDA stepped in and said, "Hey, FDA stepped in and said, "Hey, historically, all right, states have historically, all right, states have historically, all right, states have been allowed to regulate compounding been allowed to regulate compounding been allowed to regulate compounding pharmacies themselves, but we need some pharmacies themselves, but we need some pharmacies themselves, but we need some federal oversight here cuz this is not federal oversight here cuz this is not federal oversight here cuz this is not acceptable." acceptable." acceptable." Completely agree with that. And they Completely agree with that. And they Completely agree with that. And they introduced a new set of regulations on introduced a new set of regulations on introduced a new set of regulations on top of compounding pharmacies, basically top of compounding pharmacies, basically top of compounding pharmacies, basically saying what you can and cannot make. And saying what you can and cannot make. And saying what you can and cannot make. And what they eventually said is, "Well, the what they eventually said is, "Well, the what they eventually said is, "Well, the only you can only make three things. You only you can only make three things. You only you can only make three things. You can make things that are in the USP uh can make things that are in the USP uh can make things that are in the USP uh United States Pharmacopoeia, okay? United States Pharmacopoeia, okay? United States Pharmacopoeia, okay? Things that have been, you know, well Things that have been, you know, well Things that have been, you know, well described, already published, things described, already published, things described, already published, things that are already in drugs that are that are already in drugs that are that are already in drugs that are already on the market. Or three, things already on the market. Or three, things already on the market. Or three, things that are on a very specific list that that are on a very specific list that that are on a very specific list that we're going to give you, okay? And in we're going to give you, okay? And in we're going to give you, okay? And in that list, they actually included a lot that list, they actually included a lot that list, they actually included a lot of these very promising compounds that of these very promising compounds that of these very promising compounds that were stuck in drug development, you were stuck in drug development, you were stuck in drug development, you know, limbo. And you say compounding know, limbo. And you say compounding know, limbo. And you say compounding pharmacies. You said that a few times. pharmacies. You said that a few times. pharmacies. You said that a few times. What is a compounding pharmacy? Just What is a compounding pharmacy? Just What is a compounding pharmacy? Just just so I'm clear on the definition. just so I'm clear on the definition. just so I'm clear on the definition. Back in the 1800s or you know early Back in the 1800s or you know early Back in the 1800s or you know early 1900s, if you ever needed a medication, 1900s, if you ever needed a medication, 1900s, if you ever needed a medication, you'd go see the pharmacist who had a you'd go see the pharmacist who had a you'd go see the pharmacist who had a shop down the road and he would actually shop down the road and he would actually shop down the road and he would actually make your medication in front of you. make your medication in front of you. make your medication in front of you. And he would do that custom for every And he would do that custom for every And he would do that custom for every single patient that came by, all right? single patient that came by, all right? single patient that came by, all right? It was only since the advent of modern It was only since the advent of modern It was only since the advent of modern factories that we had the modern factories that we had the modern factories that we had the modern pharmaceutical industry come about. But pharmaceutical industry come about. But pharmaceutical industry come about. But the truth is is that again, you know, the truth is is that again, you know, the truth is is that again, you know, that's kind of paint by numbers. You're that's kind of paint by numbers. You're that's kind of paint by numbers. You're creating this one pill and you know, it creating this one pill and you know, it creating this one pill and you know, it always seemed kind of crazy that the always seemed kind of crazy that the always seemed kind of crazy that the adult dose is one standardized dose for adult dose is one standardized dose for adult dose is one standardized dose for all adults. Like if you look at what all adults. Like if you look at what all adults. Like if you look at what your body composition is versus some of your body composition is versus some of your body composition is versus some of my patients, why is the dose in your my patients, why is the dose in your my patients, why is the dose in your blood pressure medicine the exact same? blood pressure medicine the exact same? blood pressure medicine the exact same? Like that doesn't seem to be quite Like that doesn't seem to be quite Like that doesn't seem to be quite right, but it is what it is. So when right, but it is what it is. So when right, but it is what it is. So when patients fall outside of that and they patients fall outside of that and they patients fall outside of that and they need custom medication, we still have need custom medication, we still have need custom medication, we still have those people who make custom those people who make custom those people who make custom formulations of medications. But instead formulations of medications. But instead formulations of medications. But instead of it being just your local pharmacist of it being just your local pharmacist of it being just your local pharmacist who's using a mortar and pestle and you who's using a mortar and pestle and you who's using a mortar and pestle and you know, he's creating something in his know, he's creating something in his know, he's creating something in his back office, these are now large back office, these are now large back office, these are now large sophisticated industrial operations that sophisticated industrial operations that sophisticated industrial operations that can make custom formulations for can make custom formulations for can make custom formulations for patients. I think I think the important patients. I think I think the important patients. I think I think the important context Yeah. for people that don't context Yeah. for people that don't context Yeah. for people that don't understand how drug development occurs understand how drug development occurs understand how drug development occurs is that to get chemicals like the ones is that to get chemicals like the ones is that to get chemicals like the ones we have in front of us on the table we have in front of us on the table we have in front of us on the table through FDA approval, you've got to through FDA approval, you've got to through FDA approval, you've got to spend millions and millions and millions spend millions and millions and millions spend millions and millions and millions of dollars. Tens if not hundreds of of dollars. Tens if not hundreds of of dollars. Tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars. Sometimes hundreds millions of dollars. Sometimes hundreds millions of dollars. Sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah, an of millions of dollars. Yeah, an of millions of dollars. Yeah, an incredible amount of money. And And if incredible amount of money. And And if incredible amount of money. And And if you know you can't protect it once you you know you can't protect it once you you know you can't protect it once you spend a hundred million dollars, you spend a hundred million dollars, you spend a hundred million dollars, you have no incentive to just do charity have no incentive to just do charity have no incentive to just do charity work. Absolutely not, okay? Because you work. Absolutely not, okay? Because you work. Absolutely not, okay? Because you have shareholders and you have to make have shareholders and you have to make have shareholders and you have to make payroll. And so because drug development payroll. And so because drug development payroll. And so because drug development is so expensive, there's no incentive is so expensive, there's no incentive is so expensive, there's no incentive for commercial pharmaceutical companies for commercial pharmaceutical companies for commercial pharmaceutical companies to pursue the development of these to pursue the development of these to pursue the development of these compounds. And then on the other side of compounds. And then on the other side of compounds. And then on the other side of that, well we have compounding that, well we have compounding that, well we have compounding pharmacies that you know, for them it pharmacies that you know, for them it pharmacies that you know, for them it makes sense. What if we could just make makes sense. What if we could just make makes sense. What if we could just make these compounds and then sell them these compounds and then sell them these compounds and then sell them directly to patients? We make a small directly to patients? We make a small directly to patients? We make a small margin when we sell it. This makes sense margin when we sell it. This makes sense margin when we sell it. This makes sense for us. Well, they could do that for us. Well, they could do that for us. Well, they could do that starting in about 2014 whenever that starting in about 2014 whenever that starting in about 2014 whenever that legislation finished, all right? What legislation finished, all right? What legislation finished, all right? What did it do? Essentially what it did is it did it do? Essentially what it did is it did it do? Essentially what it did is it gave a it gave a assignment to each one gave a it gave a assignment to each one gave a it gave a assignment to each one of these compounds. It was either going of these compounds. It was either going of these compounds. It was either going to be category one, which is you can to be category one, which is you can to be category one, which is you can compound this. This is on our specific compound this. This is on our specific compound this. This is on our specific list of approved compoundable drug list of approved compoundable drug list of approved compoundable drug ingredients. ingredients. ingredients. Number two was, "Hey, we see some Number two was, "Hey, we see some Number two was, "Hey, we see some negative safety signals here. You cannot negative safety signals here. You cannot negative safety signals here. You cannot make this, okay?" Something goes in make this, okay?" Something goes in make this, okay?" Something goes in category two, it's forbidden. And then category two, it's forbidden. And then category two, it's forbidden. And then we have category three, which is we just we have category three, which is we just we have category three, which is we just need more information. And all of these need more information. And all of these need more information. And all of these original compounds, these peptides that original compounds, these peptides that original compounds, these peptides that we're so interested in now, were we're so interested in now, were we're so interested in now, were originally on that first list, category originally on that first list, category originally on that first list, category one, all right? And so, they were able one, all right? And so, they were able one, all right? And so, they were able to be compounded. We could prescribe to be compounded. We could prescribe to be compounded. We could prescribe them patients. I prescribe them to them patients. I prescribe them to them patients. I prescribe them to patients, all right? From 2014 onward. patients, all right? From 2014 onward. patients, all right? From 2014 onward. But then in 2023, But then in 2023, But then in 2023, the FDA at that time switched all of the FDA at that time switched all of the FDA at that time switched all of those peptides, 19 of them that were those peptides, 19 of them that were those peptides, 19 of them that were popular, to category two, and then they popular, to category two, and then they popular, to category two, and then they were banned. Overnight, we got were banned. Overnight, we got were banned. Overnight, we got notifications in our email inboxes from notifications in our email inboxes from notifications in our email inboxes from our compounding pharmacy partners our compounding pharmacy partners our compounding pharmacy partners saying, "Hey, we can't make this saying, "Hey, we can't make this saying, "Hey, we can't make this anymore. We're sorry." So, I've got two anymore. We're sorry." So, I've got two anymore. We're sorry." So, I've got two questions there. Um the first is when questions there. Um the first is when questions there. Um the first is when you were prescribing these peptides to you were prescribing these peptides to you were prescribing these peptides to your patient your patient your patient >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. were you seeing incredible results? were you seeing incredible results? were you seeing incredible results? Very much so. Very much Again, you have Very much so. Very much Again, you have Very much so. Very much Again, you have to use the right key for the right lock, to use the right key for the right lock, to use the right key for the right lock, okay? But I think a really good example, okay? But I think a really good example, okay? But I think a really good example, all right? So, there is a all right? So, there is a all right? So, there is a compound that is not technically a compound that is not technically a compound that is not technically a peptide. It is a small molecule, but it peptide. It is a small molecule, but it peptide. It is a small molecule, but it was lumped in with all of these and was was lumped in with all of these and was was lumped in with all of these and was the victim to the same process. the victim to the same process. the victim to the same process. Uh something called MK-677, also known Uh something called MK-677, also known Uh something called MK-677, also known as ibutamoren. So, this is a small as ibutamoren. So, this is a small as ibutamoren. So, this is a small molecule, but when a patient takes it, molecule, but when a patient takes it, molecule, but when a patient takes it, it's orally available. It binds to this it's orally available. It binds to this it's orally available. It binds to this receptor called ghrelin, and it actually receptor called ghrelin, and it actually receptor called ghrelin, and it actually stimulates the release of significant stimulates the release of significant stimulates the release of significant growth hormone. But what was really growth hormone. But what was really growth hormone. But what was really interesting is that it would actually interesting is that it would actually interesting is that it would actually stimulate hunger a profound amount. And stimulate hunger a profound amount. And stimulate hunger a profound amount. And all of a sudden, patients that were all of a sudden, patients that were all of a sudden, patients that were struggling with cachexia, okay? So, struggling with cachexia, okay? So, struggling with cachexia, okay? So, being very, very thin, very being very, very thin, very being very, very thin, very malnourished, maybe they're going malnourished, maybe they're going malnourished, maybe they're going through cancer treatment. through cancer treatment. through cancer treatment. >> Ghrelin's the thing that makes us feel >> Ghrelin's the thing that makes us feel >> Ghrelin's the thing that makes us feel hungry. hungry. hungry. >> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So, they were >> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So, they were >> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So, they were able to stimulate the hunger response, able to stimulate the hunger response, able to stimulate the hunger response, and patients were actually able to eat and patients were actually able to eat and patients were actually able to eat more to meet caloric goals. And so, this more to meet caloric goals. And so, this more to meet caloric goals. And so, this was a medication that was fantastically was a medication that was fantastically was a medication that was fantastically effective at that. effective at that. effective at that. Again, it had gone through some clinical Again, it had gone through some clinical Again, it had gone through some clinical trials, but was never taken all the way trials, but was never taken all the way trials, but was never taken all the way to commercial. And so, it was never to commercial. And so, it was never to commercial. And so, it was never going to be available from CVS or going to be available from CVS or going to be available from CVS or Walgreens, but you could get it from a Walgreens, but you could get it from a Walgreens, but you could get it from a compounding pharmacy. And so, that was compounding pharmacy. And so, that was compounding pharmacy. And so, that was one that made a big difference for us. one that made a big difference for us. one that made a big difference for us. We also had other peptides. So, We also had other peptides. So, We also had other peptides. So, GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 were some of the ones GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 were some of the ones GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 were some of the ones we were using at that time. Those are we were using at that time. Those are we were using at that time. Those are growth hormone-releasing peptides that growth hormone-releasing peptides that growth hormone-releasing peptides that stimulate the release of your body's stimulate the release of your body's stimulate the release of your body's natural growth hormone, which can help natural growth hormone, which can help natural growth hormone, which can help with tissue repair, can also help with with tissue repair, can also help with with tissue repair, can also help with fat loss, and with building muscle. We fat loss, and with building muscle. We fat loss, and with building muscle. We also had BPC-157, and we had derivatives also had BPC-157, and we had derivatives also had BPC-157, and we had derivatives like thymosin beta-4. These are also like thymosin beta-4. These are also like thymosin beta-4. These are also compounds that can help stimulate compounds that can help stimulate compounds that can help stimulate angiogenesis, so making new blood angiogenesis, so making new blood angiogenesis, so making new blood vessels, all right, and tissue repair. vessels, all right, and tissue repair. vessels, all right, and tissue repair. So, if we have a patient that's injured So, if we have a patient that's injured So, if we have a patient that's injured themselves, maybe we could help them get themselves, maybe we could help them get themselves, maybe we could help them get back at life faster. These were all back at life faster. These were all back at life faster. These were all things that were used very commonplace things that were used very commonplace things that were used very commonplace for many years, and truthfully, they for many years, and truthfully, they for many years, and truthfully, they weren't super popular at the time. We weren't super popular at the time. We weren't super popular at the time. We were just using them, and then they were were just using them, and then they were were just using them, and then they were banned overnight. And they were working. banned overnight. And they were working. banned overnight. And they were working. And they were working. And they were And they were working. And they were And they were working. And they were working, [clears throat] and we were not working, [clears throat] and we were not working, [clears throat] and we were not seeing adverse events, which is the most seeing adverse events, which is the most seeing adverse events, which is the most important thing. What's an adverse important thing. What's an adverse important thing. What's an adverse event? event? event? >> An adverse event is a patient has a >> An adverse event is a patient has a >> An adverse event is a patient has a terrible side effect. They call you, terrible side effect. They call you, terrible side effect. They call you, they have an allergic reaction to they have an allergic reaction to they have an allergic reaction to something. They call, they've got something. They call, they've got something. They call, they've got shortness of breath, and it's a direct shortness of breath, and it's a direct shortness of breath, and it's a direct result of the medication that you gave result of the medication that you gave result of the medication that you gave them. It was working. It was working, them. It was working. It was working, them. It was working. It was working, and by all accounts, seemed to be and by all accounts, seemed to be and by all accounts, seemed to be incredibly safe. incredibly safe. incredibly safe. >> And then they banned it. >> And then they banned it. >> And then they banned it. >> And then they banned it. Why? That's a >> And then they banned it. Why? That's a >> And then they banned it. Why? That's a great question. So, officially, what great question. So, officially, what great question. So, officially, what happened is there was a meeting where happened is there was a meeting where happened is there was a meeting where they brought together the experts at the they brought together the experts at the they brought together the experts at the time, and they said, "There is time, and they said, "There is time, and they said, "There is insufficient data for us to say that insufficient data for us to say that insufficient data for us to say that these are safe." Because again, they had these are safe." Because again, they had these are safe." Because again, they had not gone through the full FDA approval not gone through the full FDA approval not gone through the full FDA approval process. And so, as a result of lacking process. And so, as a result of lacking process. And so, as a result of lacking that data, we're going to say that that data, we're going to say that that data, we're going to say that they're too dangerous. Now, there wasn't they're too dangerous. Now, there wasn't they're too dangerous. Now, there wasn't any evidence of any of that in the any evidence of any of that in the any evidence of any of that in the population. These were widely used at population. These were widely used at population. These were widely used at the time. Potentially, we had commercial the time. Potentially, we had commercial the time. Potentially, we had commercial pharmaceutical companies saying, "Well, pharmaceutical companies saying, "Well, pharmaceutical companies saying, "Well, hey, this is people spending money on a hey, this is people spending money on a hey, this is people spending money on a compound, on something that isn't coming compound, on something that isn't coming compound, on something that isn't coming to us. So, hey, like we love medicine, to us. So, hey, like we love medicine, to us. So, hey, like we love medicine, but maybe only when it's our medicine. but maybe only when it's our medicine. but maybe only when it's our medicine. Mhm. And so, there's concern that that Mhm. And so, there's concern that that Mhm. And so, there's concern that that was at at play as well. And so, there is was at at play as well. And so, there is was at at play as well. And so, there is not a great paper trail, and there's not not a great paper trail, and there's not not a great paper trail, and there's not a great explanation why. And that's a great explanation why. And that's a great explanation why. And that's something that's been iterated by our something that's been iterated by our something that's been iterated by our current administration, from RFK current administration, from RFK current administration, from RFK himself. You know, he himself has himself. You know, he himself has himself. You know, he himself has characterized that move done in 2023 as characterized that move done in 2023 as characterized that move done in 2023 as being illegal. With everything you know being illegal. With everything you know being illegal. With everything you know about the medical industry, do you think about the medical industry, do you think about the medical industry, do you think it is plausible that big farmer 110%. it is plausible that big farmer 110%. it is plausible that big farmer 110%. didn't want 110%. didn't want 110%. didn't want 110%. these in the hands of regular people, these in the hands of regular people, these in the hands of regular people, because they can't patent this, and it's because they can't patent this, and it's because they can't patent this, and it's powerful. So, ultimately, the way to powerful. So, ultimately, the way to powerful. So, ultimately, the way to think about it is this. think about it is this. think about it is this. Um pharma may not have a compound that pharma may not have a compound that directly competes for BPC-157. directly competes for BPC-157. directly competes for BPC-157. BPC-157. So, this is the medication or BPC-157. So, this is the medication or BPC-157. So, this is the medication or the peptide that can aid with healing the peptide that can aid with healing the peptide that can aid with healing after an injury, okay? So, it's not after an injury, okay? So, it's not after an injury, okay? So, it's not necessarily there's direct competition, necessarily there's direct competition, necessarily there's direct competition, but at the end of the day, your average but at the end of the day, your average but at the end of the day, your average patient going throughout their daily patient going throughout their daily patient going throughout their daily life only has so much money that they life only has so much money that they life only has so much money that they can spend on medicine. Mhm. And can spend on medicine. Mhm. And can spend on medicine. Mhm. And [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] $10, $15, however much money that goes $10, $15, however much money that goes $10, $15, however much money that goes to this to this to this doesn't go to a prescription drug from a doesn't go to a prescription drug from a doesn't go to a prescription drug from a commercial pharmaceutical company. commercial pharmaceutical company. commercial pharmaceutical company. And so, there is real concern that And so, there is real concern that And so, there is real concern that potentially that was at play during that potentially that was at play during that potentially that was at play during that decision. You said 110%. Yeah, I well, decision. You said 110%. Yeah, I well, decision. You said 110%. Yeah, I well, you know, it's interesting because you you know, it's interesting because you you know, it's interesting because you know, I try to walk a very fine line know, I try to walk a very fine line know, I try to walk a very fine line between what I can prove between what I can prove between what I can prove versus what I suspect after being in versus what I suspect after being in versus what I suspect after being in this space for a long time. And, this space for a long time. And, this space for a long time. And, [clears throat] you know, ultimately, [clears throat] you know, ultimately, [clears throat] you know, ultimately, you know, I don't think it's accurate to you know, I don't think it's accurate to you know, I don't think it's accurate to characterize pharmaceutical companies or characterize pharmaceutical companies or characterize pharmaceutical companies or really any other entity as being, you really any other entity as being, you really any other entity as being, you know, evil or or bad. The truth is maybe know, evil or or bad. The truth is maybe know, evil or or bad. The truth is maybe a little bit more ominous. The truth is a little bit more ominous. The truth is a little bit more ominous. The truth is is that they are these large machines is that they are these large machines is that they are these large machines that are designed to prioritize profit that are designed to prioritize profit that are designed to prioritize profit over everything. over everything. over everything. >> Yeah. And that's everything. I think >> Yeah. And that's everything. I think >> Yeah. And that's everything. I think this is one of the really interesting this is one of the really interesting this is one of the really interesting observations I've had the higher I've observations I've had the higher I've observations I've had the higher I've gone in my career is that often times gone in my career is that often times gone in my career is that often times here we heard about the Illuminati like here we heard about the Illuminati like here we heard about the Illuminati like when I was growing up I was like oh when I was growing up I was like oh when I was growing up I was like oh there's this Illuminati. there's this Illuminati. there's this Illuminati. >> Yeah. And you think of it as these like >> Yeah. And you think of it as these like >> Yeah. And you think of it as these like shadow hooded people that get together shadow hooded people that get together shadow hooded people that get together and decide evil things but at the and decide evil things but at the and decide evil things but at the further I've gone in business the more further I've gone in business the more further I've gone in business the more I've realized that the Illuminati or I've realized that the Illuminati or I've realized that the Illuminati or these evil forces are actually just these evil forces are actually just these evil forces are actually just machines that were designed to optimize machines that were designed to optimize machines that were designed to optimize for profit. for profit. for profit. >> Correct. Correct. So like corporations >> Correct. Correct. So like corporations >> Correct. Correct. So like corporations are the Illuminati. Yeah and so I don't are the Illuminati. Yeah and so I don't are the Illuminati. Yeah and so I don't actually think that there is necessarily actually think that there is necessarily actually think that there is necessarily you know a group of maniacal individuals you know a group of maniacal individuals you know a group of maniacal individuals you know the Legion of Doom you know you know the Legion of Doom you know you know the Legion of Doom you know plotting to like take away your health plotting to like take away your health plotting to like take away your health but at the same time I think that there but at the same time I think that there but at the same time I think that there are these large organizations that are these large organizations that are these large organizations that really couldn't care less about your really couldn't care less about your really couldn't care less about your health. You know they are prioritizing health. You know they are prioritizing health. You know they are prioritizing what's important for them and regular what's important for them and regular what's important for them and regular people just get caught up in the mix and people just get caught up in the mix and people just get caught up in the mix and what's challenging is that as a what's challenging is that as a what's challenging is that as a physician you know I took a Hippocratic physician you know I took a Hippocratic physician you know I took a Hippocratic oath you know I care about my patients oath you know I care about my patients oath you know I care about my patients and so those are the people that are in and so those are the people that are in and so those are the people that are in front of me every single day that are front of me every single day that are front of me every single day that are seeking to improve their lives to seeking to improve their lives to seeking to improve their lives to recover from injury. I have you know recover from injury. I have you know recover from injury. I have you know fertility patients that are just dying fertility patients that are just dying fertility patients that are just dying to start their family and I have to start their family and I have to start their family and I have patients that are suffering from patients that are suffering from patients that are suffering from hormonal imbalances that haven't felt hormonal imbalances that haven't felt hormonal imbalances that haven't felt right in years. I I treat erectile right in years. I I treat erectile right in years. I I treat erectile dysfunction in men that have been dysfunction in men that have been dysfunction in men that have been struggling for years after prostate struggling for years after prostate struggling for years after prostate cancer treatment. I mean these are cancer treatment. I mean these are cancer treatment. I mean these are people that are broken and hurting. You people that are broken and hurting. You people that are broken and hurting. You want to be able to help them and so I want to be able to help them and so I want to be able to help them and so I feel that as a very strong personal feel that as a very strong personal feel that as a very strong personal calling that I have to be the advocate calling that I have to be the advocate calling that I have to be the advocate for that patient both in the room for that patient both in the room for that patient both in the room whenever I'm treating them and taking whenever I'm treating them and taking whenever I'm treating them and taking care of them but also when I'm talking care of them but also when I'm talking care of them but also when I'm talking to others and I'm you know speaking out to others and I'm you know speaking out to others and I'm you know speaking out about these issues. Like I want access about these issues. Like I want access about these issues. Like I want access to these medications because I care to these medications because I care to these medications because I care about the patients who benefit from about the patients who benefit from about the patients who benefit from them. them. them. Sweden banned these peptides that we Sweden banned these peptides that we Sweden banned these peptides that we have here. Correct. have here. Correct. have here. Correct. >> And we're sat here two years after the >> And we're sat here two years after the >> And we're sat here two years after the ban I believe roughly two years after ban I believe roughly two years after ban I believe roughly two years after that ban. that ban. that ban. >> Yeah. And suddenly everybody's talking >> Yeah. And suddenly everybody's talking >> Yeah. And suddenly everybody's talking about peptides again. Yes. Why? What's about peptides again. Yes. Why? What's about peptides again. Yes. Why? What's going on? So I think what we're seeing going on? So I think what we're seeing going on? So I think what we're seeing is the forbidden fruit effect because is the forbidden fruit effect because is the forbidden fruit effect because this was banned and all of a sudden oh this was banned and all of a sudden oh this was banned and all of a sudden oh well why'd they ban it? Well they well why'd they ban it? Well they well why'd they ban it? Well they wouldn't have banned it if it weren't wouldn't have banned it if it weren't wouldn't have banned it if it weren't working right and we're also seeing the working right and we're also seeing the working right and we're also seeing the effect of TikTok and short form content effect of TikTok and short form content effect of TikTok and short form content being spread very rapidly very virally being spread very rapidly very virally being spread very rapidly very virally and that's been going on for 2 years and that's been going on for 2 years and that's been going on for 2 years now, combined with new emphasis from now, combined with new emphasis from now, combined with new emphasis from administration leadership and HHS and administration leadership and HHS and administration leadership and HHS and then RFK. What is the most incredible then RFK. What is the most incredible then RFK. What is the most incredible impact that you've seen peptides create impact that you've seen peptides create impact that you've seen peptides create in a patient? Oh my gosh, I have a best in a patient? Oh my gosh, I have a best in a patient? Oh my gosh, I have a best story for you. So, one of the most story for you. So, one of the most story for you. So, one of the most frustrating things about my practice is frustrating things about my practice is frustrating things about my practice is treating infertility in young men that treating infertility in young men that treating infertility in young men that have significant metabolic dysfunction. have significant metabolic dysfunction. have significant metabolic dysfunction. These are young men that have a low These are young men that have a low These are young men that have a low sperm count, right? So, they can't get sperm count, right? So, they can't get sperm count, right? So, they can't get pregnant because they just don't have pregnant because they just don't have pregnant because they just don't have the numbers to make it happen. And the numbers to make it happen. And the numbers to make it happen. And you're looking at them and they're you're looking at them and they're you're looking at them and they're morbidly obese, okay? They have high morbidly obese, okay? They have high morbidly obese, okay? They have high insulin resistance, all right? And their insulin resistance, all right? And their insulin resistance, all right? And their endocrine system has been damaged by endocrine system has been damaged by endocrine system has been damaged by that obesity. So, they don't have have that obesity. So, they don't have have that obesity. So, they don't have have low testosterone levels and their brain low testosterone levels and their brain low testosterone levels and their brain is not making enough of the signals to is not making enough of the signals to is not making enough of the signals to stimulate their testicles. Now, we have stimulate their testicles. Now, we have stimulate their testicles. Now, we have medications that we can use to help medications that we can use to help medications that we can use to help stimulate that to make more of that stimulate that to make more of that stimulate that to make more of that signal stimulate the testicles, right? signal stimulate the testicles, right? signal stimulate the testicles, right? But, really what is eating at them, what But, really what is eating at them, what But, really what is eating at them, what is causing this, is not that chemical is causing this, is not that chemical is causing this, is not that chemical imbalance. That's the the symptom. imbalance. That's the the symptom. imbalance. That's the the symptom. That's not the the problem, okay? And That's not the the problem, okay? And That's not the the problem, okay? And treating symptoms doesn't really get you treating symptoms doesn't really get you treating symptoms doesn't really get you very far. And so, I would have patients very far. And so, I would have patients very far. And so, I would have patients that I would take care of and we would that I would take care of and we would that I would take care of and we would never see a significant improvement in never see a significant improvement in never see a significant improvement in their numbers because losing weight is their numbers because losing weight is their numbers because losing weight is really, really hard, you know, really, really hard, you know, really, really hard, you know, regardless of all of the education and regardless of all of the education and regardless of all of the education and resources I try to give them. But, now resources I try to give them. But, now resources I try to give them. But, now we have peptides in the form of GLP-1 we have peptides in the form of GLP-1 we have peptides in the form of GLP-1 drugs like semaglutide and tirzepatide. drugs like semaglutide and tirzepatide. drugs like semaglutide and tirzepatide. And I just saw a patient last last week And I just saw a patient last last week And I just saw a patient last last week who increased his sperm count 10 times who increased his sperm count 10 times who increased his sperm count 10 times over and is now in a normal range over and is now in a normal range over and is now in a normal range because he's lost 100 lb due to using because he's lost 100 lb due to using because he's lost 100 lb due to using tirzepatide, exercising, and improving tirzepatide, exercising, and improving tirzepatide, exercising, and improving his diet. And he has totally changed his his diet. And he has totally changed his his diet. And he has totally changed his life. life. life. >> And that started with a peptide. Started >> And that started with a peptide. Started >> And that started with a peptide. Started with a peptide. with a peptide. with a peptide. So, I we've got lots of peptides on the So, I we've got lots of peptides on the So, I we've got lots of peptides on the table in front of you. We will go to the table in front of you. We will go to the table in front of you. We will go to the into them individually, but just can you into them individually, but just can you into them individually, but just can you give me a a high-level view of the types give me a a high-level view of the types give me a a high-level view of the types of areas in our health and life that of areas in our health and life that of areas in our health and life that these peptides can help with? So, So, these peptides can help with? So, So, these peptides can help with? So, So, talked there about infertility Correct. talked there about infertility Correct. talked there about infertility Correct. as a downstream consequence of the like as a downstream consequence of the like as a downstream consequence of the like weight loss and fixing the metabolic weight loss and fixing the metabolic weight loss and fixing the metabolic health. What are What other parts of the health. What are What other parts of the health. What are What other parts of the body the peptides touch? The best way to body the peptides touch? The best way to body the peptides touch? The best way to think about it is like this. So, think about it is like this. So, think about it is like this. So, peptides are almost like an app on your peptides are almost like an app on your peptides are almost like an app on your phone. So, imagine before we had apps. phone. So, imagine before we had apps. phone. So, imagine before we had apps. I'm old enough to remember trying to log I'm old enough to remember trying to log I'm old enough to remember trying to log on and do my banking online before we on and do my banking online before we on and do my banking online before we had apps and gosh, it was so painful, had apps and gosh, it was so painful, had apps and gosh, it was so painful, right? Like there were ways to right? Like there were ways to right? Like there were ways to accomplish things, but they were very accomplish things, but they were very accomplish things, but they were very inconvenient and a roundabout way. And inconvenient and a roundabout way. And inconvenient and a roundabout way. And now all of a sudden we have these apps now all of a sudden we have these apps now all of a sudden we have these apps on our phone that can do just about on our phone that can do just about on our phone that can do just about anything except fold your laundry, anything except fold your laundry, anything except fold your laundry, right? You know, there's some limits to right? You know, there's some limits to right? You know, there's some limits to it, but I mean really the sky's the it, but I mean really the sky's the it, but I mean really the sky's the limit from an electronic standpoint. And limit from an electronic standpoint. And limit from an electronic standpoint. And really that's what peptides are. So, the really that's what peptides are. So, the really that's what peptides are. So, the thing is is that we have peptides that thing is is that we have peptides that thing is is that we have peptides that can help you lose weight like the GLP-1 can help you lose weight like the GLP-1 can help you lose weight like the GLP-1 drugs. We have peptides that can improve drugs. We have peptides that can improve drugs. We have peptides that can improve skin quality like GHK-Cu. skin quality like GHK-Cu. skin quality like GHK-Cu. We have peptides that can help heal your We have peptides that can help heal your We have peptides that can help heal your gut like BPC-157, particularly effective gut like BPC-157, particularly effective gut like BPC-157, particularly effective in ulcerative colitis, which is in ulcerative colitis, which is in ulcerative colitis, which is something that's being investigated with something that's being investigated with something that's being investigated with the FDA's planned upcoming meeting on the FDA's planned upcoming meeting on the FDA's planned upcoming meeting on it. We also have peptides that can help it. We also have peptides that can help it. We also have peptides that can help with sleep and with recovering the gland with sleep and with recovering the gland with sleep and with recovering the gland in your brain that's responsible for in your brain that's responsible for in your brain that's responsible for melatonin and regulating your sleep-wake melatonin and regulating your sleep-wake melatonin and regulating your sleep-wake cycles. So, the question isn't, you cycles. So, the question isn't, you cycles. So, the question isn't, you know, what can peptides do? It's kind know, what can peptides do? It's kind know, what can peptides do? It's kind of, well, what can't they do? And if of, well, what can't they do? And if of, well, what can't they do? And if they can't do that yet, can we develop a they can't do that yet, can we develop a they can't do that yet, can we develop a peptide that can accomplish that task? peptide that can accomplish that task? peptide that can accomplish that task? And the answer is probably and And the answer is probably and And the answer is probably and simultaneously while there may be simultaneously while there may be simultaneously while there may be resistance from pharmaceutical industry resistance from pharmaceutical industry resistance from pharmaceutical industry in these peptides, the ones that were in these peptides, the ones that were in these peptides, the ones that were most interested right now, they have most interested right now, they have most interested right now, they have signed multi-billion dollar deals with signed multi-billion dollar deals with signed multi-billion dollar deals with other pharmaceutical companies that are other pharmaceutical companies that are other pharmaceutical companies that are involved in peptide development aided by involved in peptide development aided by involved in peptide development aided by AI to try and fast-track their own AI to try and fast-track their own AI to try and fast-track their own peptide products. Interesting. peptide products. Interesting. peptide products. Interesting. >> And so, we are going to see >> And so, we are going to see >> And so, we are going to see exponentially more of these products exponentially more of these products exponentially more of these products come down the pipeline from come down the pipeline from come down the pipeline from pharmaceutical companies in the form of pharmaceutical companies in the form of pharmaceutical companies in the form of commercial products. And it's worth commercial products. And it's worth commercial products. And it's worth saying that there was some significant saying that there was some significant saying that there was some significant news today. Correct. What happened news today. Correct. What happened news today. Correct. What happened today, but also what's going on? And today, but also what's going on? And today, but also what's going on? And just for anyone that doesn't know, it's just for anyone that doesn't know, it's just for anyone that doesn't know, it's April the 15th. Yes. So, today April the 15th. Yes. So, today April the 15th. Yes. So, today we got a really press release from the we got a really press release from the we got a really press release from the FDA saying that in July they are going FDA saying that in July they are going FDA saying that in July they are going to consider seven peptides for removing to consider seven peptides for removing to consider seven peptides for removing from category two back to category one. from category two back to category one. from category two back to category one. >> Legalizing them. Legalizing them, okay? >> Legalizing them. Legalizing them, okay? >> Legalizing them. Legalizing them, okay? And some of the heavy hitters from that And some of the heavy hitters from that And some of the heavy hitters from that list include BPC 157. Which is the one list include BPC 157. Which is the one list include BPC 157. Which is the one we talked about to do with like repair we talked about to do with like repair we talked about to do with like repair and injury. Absolutely, okay? And then and injury. Absolutely, okay? And then and injury. Absolutely, okay? And then we have we have we have the brother to that which is TB 500, the brother to that which is TB 500, the brother to that which is TB 500, this vial over here. This improves blood this vial over here. This improves blood this vial over here. This improves blood flow to an injured area. You could think flow to an injured area. You could think flow to an injured area. You could think of this as sending the soldiers, as of this as sending the soldiers, as of this as sending the soldiers, as sending the cells that are required for sending the cells that are required for sending the cells that are required for rebuilding that tissue matrix that was rebuilding that tissue matrix that was rebuilding that tissue matrix that was damaged by a tear or a cut, all right? damaged by a tear or a cut, all right? damaged by a tear or a cut, all right? On top of that, we're also getting On top of that, we're also getting On top of that, we're also getting something called KPV. May not have it something called KPV. May not have it something called KPV. May not have it here, but that is another here, but that is another here, but that is another peptide that has been linked to peptide that has been linked to peptide that has been linked to angiogenesis and tissue repair. We're angiogenesis and tissue repair. We're angiogenesis and tissue repair. We're also getting MOTS-c and you know, some also getting MOTS-c and you know, some also getting MOTS-c and you know, some people just will call it exercise in a people just will call it exercise in a people just will call it exercise in a vial. It improves your VO2 max and your vial. It improves your VO2 max and your vial. It improves your VO2 max and your exercise tolerance and by up regulating exercise tolerance and by up regulating exercise tolerance and by up regulating the energy pathway, basically making the energy pathway, basically making the energy pathway, basically making more ATP, the energy that we all use to more ATP, the energy that we all use to more ATP, the energy that we all use to move, it makes more of that available, move, it makes more of that available, move, it makes more of that available, all right? We're also going to get DSIP, all right? We're also going to get DSIP, all right? We're also going to get DSIP, epithalon, and C-max which are all epithalon, and C-max which are all epithalon, and C-max which are all peptides that affect cognitive function. peptides that affect cognitive function. peptides that affect cognitive function. So, improving thinking, like C-max is a So, improving thinking, like C-max is a So, improving thinking, like C-max is a great option for that. And then DSIP and great option for that. And then DSIP and great option for that. And then DSIP and epithalon both have roles in regulating epithalon both have roles in regulating epithalon both have roles in regulating sleep and recovery. sleep and recovery. sleep and recovery. Wow. Yeah, [clears throat] pretty wild. Wow. Yeah, [clears throat] pretty wild. Wow. Yeah, [clears throat] pretty wild. And I've got to say, how does So, some And I've got to say, how does So, some And I've got to say, how does So, some of them are becoming legalized, but even of them are becoming legalized, but even of them are becoming legalized, but even the ones that aren't legal right now, a the ones that aren't legal right now, a the ones that aren't legal right now, a lot of people are taking them anyway. lot of people are taking them anyway. lot of people are taking them anyway. Correct. So, my my question is, how are Correct. So, my my question is, how are Correct. So, my my question is, how are people getting them? Listen, I don't people getting them? Listen, I don't people getting them? Listen, I don't want to promote illegal drugs here. This want to promote illegal drugs here. This want to promote illegal drugs here. This is not that kind of But, I just is not that kind of But, I just is not that kind of But, I just want to know what's going on. No, this want to know what's going on. No, this want to know what's going on. No, this is Well, this is important to talk is Well, this is important to talk is Well, this is important to talk about, right? Cuz we have to understand about, right? Cuz we have to understand about, right? Cuz we have to understand like what's going on in the marketplace. like what's going on in the marketplace. like what's going on in the marketplace. The moment that these drugs were banned The moment that these drugs were banned The moment that these drugs were banned or these medications were banned in or these medications were banned in or these medications were banned in 2023, It's kind of like the United 2023, It's kind of like the United 2023, It's kind of like the United States experimented banning alcohol. It States experimented banning alcohol. It States experimented banning alcohol. It didn't go very well, right? All of a didn't go very well, right? All of a didn't go very well, right? All of a sudden, you know, they you know, the mob sudden, you know, they you know, the mob sudden, you know, they you know, the mob came around and we started, you know, came around and we started, you know, came around and we started, you know, seeing unregulated seeing unregulated seeing unregulated uh saloons and unregulated alcohol uh saloons and unregulated alcohol uh saloons and unregulated alcohol production and it was contaminated with production and it was contaminated with production and it was contaminated with all the stuff that you didn't want. And all the stuff that you didn't want. And all the stuff that you didn't want. And so like people were trafficking. Yeah, so like people were trafficking. Yeah, so like people were trafficking. Yeah, exactly. It's just it's not a good idea, exactly. It's just it's not a good idea, exactly. It's just it's not a good idea, right? And so what happened is we banned right? And so what happened is we banned right? And so what happened is we banned these and the gray market stepped in. these and the gray market stepped in. these and the gray market stepped in. And so these are companies that will And so these are companies that will And so these are companies that will sell peptides that have on the label for sell peptides that have on the label for sell peptides that have on the label for research use only, all right? And the research use only, all right? And the research use only, all right? And the idea is that that takes them out of the idea is that that takes them out of the idea is that that takes them out of the FDA's jurisdiction because they're not FDA's jurisdiction because they're not FDA's jurisdiction because they're not selling it for people to inject into selling it for people to inject into selling it for people to inject into themselves out of the FDA's hands. I'm themselves out of the FDA's hands. I'm themselves out of the FDA's hands. I'm just creating a vial of this magical just creating a vial of this magical just creating a vial of this magical juice that you can use for your rat, juice that you can use for your rat, juice that you can use for your rat, okay? That's the idea. We all know okay? That's the idea. We all know okay? That's the idea. We all know that's not what's really happening. But that's not what's really happening. But that's not what's really happening. But because there isn't any quality control, because there isn't any quality control, because there isn't any quality control, it's kind of like getting gas station it's kind of like getting gas station it's kind of like getting gas station sushi. Like yeah, you can do it, but you sushi. Like yeah, you can do it, but you sushi. Like yeah, you can do it, but you don't really know if it's sushi and it don't really know if it's sushi and it don't really know if it's sushi and it may not end very well for you. And so may not end very well for you. And so may not end very well for you. And so again, not saying that there aren't some again, not saying that there aren't some again, not saying that there aren't some people who have gotten good results with people who have gotten good results with people who have gotten good results with research use only peptides, but again, research use only peptides, but again, research use only peptides, but again, it's not standardized, which is why I it's not standardized, which is why I it's not standardized, which is why I think moving this back into the 503A think moving this back into the 503A think moving this back into the 503A compounding world is the best thing for compounding world is the best thing for compounding world is the best thing for everyone. Which is the legal everyone. Which is the legal everyone. Which is the legal framework. Okay, so how does one take a framework. Okay, so how does one take a framework. Okay, so how does one take a peptide? That's a great question. So peptide? That's a great question. So peptide? That's a great question. So what's interesting is that as we what's interesting is that as we what's interesting is that as we mentioned, you know, peptides are just mentioned, you know, peptides are just mentioned, you know, peptides are just made up of building blocks of amino made up of building blocks of amino made up of building blocks of amino acids. And you know, if you were to go acids. And you know, if you were to go acids. And you know, if you were to go make yourself a protein shake, you know, make yourself a protein shake, you know, make yourself a protein shake, you know, what is that going to look like from a what is that going to look like from a what is that going to look like from a Lego standpoint? It just looks like Lego standpoint? It just looks like Lego standpoint? It just looks like this, a handful of Legos in your hand, this, a handful of Legos in your hand, this, a handful of Legos in your hand, right? All sort of like ground up. All right? All sort of like ground up. All right? All sort of like ground up. All ground up in individual pieces, right? ground up in individual pieces, right? ground up in individual pieces, right? But the thing is is that your gut is But the thing is is that your gut is But the thing is is that your gut is designed to break up any sort of protein designed to break up any sort of protein designed to break up any sort of protein that you ingest orally into these little that you ingest orally into these little that you ingest orally into these little pieces. And so if you were to say, I pieces. And so if you were to say, I pieces. And so if you were to say, I don't know, drink some of, you know, don't know, drink some of, you know, don't know, drink some of, you know, this TB-500, your body wouldn't be able this TB-500, your body wouldn't be able this TB-500, your body wouldn't be able to tell the difference between that and to tell the difference between that and to tell the difference between that and a piece of chicken cuz it would it would a piece of chicken cuz it would it would a piece of chicken cuz it would it would break it all apart. It'd break it all break it all apart. It'd break it all break it all apart. It'd break it all apart. Now, there are some very apart. Now, there are some very apart. Now, there are some very unique exceptions to that. There's a unique exceptions to that. There's a unique exceptions to that. There's a form of BPC-157 that actually is form of BPC-157 that actually is form of BPC-157 that actually is tolerated in the gut, but by and large tolerated in the gut, but by and large tolerated in the gut, but by and large the overwhelming majority of these have the overwhelming majority of these have the overwhelming majority of these have to be injected either subcutaneously or to be injected either subcutaneously or to be injected either subcutaneously or into the muscle, and that's usually a into the muscle, and that's usually a into the muscle, and that's usually a preference. Subcutaneous being my belly. preference. Subcutaneous being my belly. preference. Subcutaneous being my belly. >> Under Just underneath the skin. You >> Under Just underneath the skin. You >> Under Just underneath the skin. You know, as I tell patients, just pinch an know, as I tell patients, just pinch an know, as I tell patients, just pinch an inch, inject under the skin. We do that inch, inject under the skin. We do that inch, inject under the skin. We do that for a lot of other medications as well. for a lot of other medications as well. for a lot of other medications as well. >> Isn't that what this is? Yeah, so this >> Isn't that what this is? Yeah, so this >> Isn't that what this is? Yeah, so this is a prescription Mounjaro pen. So, is a prescription Mounjaro pen. So, is a prescription Mounjaro pen. So, Mounjaro is the brand name for Mounjaro is the brand name for Mounjaro is the brand name for tirzepatide, all right? Tirzepatide tirzepatide, all right? Tirzepatide tirzepatide, all right? Tirzepatide being the leading GLP-1 product right being the leading GLP-1 product right being the leading GLP-1 product right now from Lilly. So, this produces more now from Lilly. So, this produces more now from Lilly. So, this produces more weight loss per milligram than any other weight loss per milligram than any other weight loss per milligram than any other product that we've got out right now. Is product that we've got out right now. Is product that we've got out right now. Is this the mechanism in which people this the mechanism in which people this the mechanism in which people inject peptides? No, a little bit inject peptides? No, a little bit inject peptides? No, a little bit different. So, this is an auto-injector different. So, this is an auto-injector different. So, this is an auto-injector pen. And so, what you do is you're able pen. And so, what you do is you're able pen. And so, what you do is you're able to actually ratchet the dose there on to actually ratchet the dose there on to actually ratchet the dose there on the right side, and then you pinch an the right side, and then you pinch an the right side, and then you pinch an inch in your skin, and then push it up inch in your skin, and then push it up inch in your skin, and then push it up against and it'll auto-deploy. And so, against and it'll auto-deploy. And so, against and it'll auto-deploy. And so, there's nothing that you need to do. You there's nothing that you need to do. You there's nothing that you need to do. You don't have to learn how to drop don't have to learn how to drop don't have to learn how to drop medication and inject. Whenever you're medication and inject. Whenever you're medication and inject. Whenever you're administering peptides at home, administering peptides at home, administering peptides at home, especially for patients that have especially for patients that have especially for patients that have obtained them from research use only obtained them from research use only obtained them from research use only markets, they usually come in just markets, they usually come in just markets, they usually come in just little vials that need to be drawn up little vials that need to be drawn up little vials that need to be drawn up with a needle, okay? Now, the benefit of with a needle, okay? Now, the benefit of with a needle, okay? Now, the benefit of that is that you can do custom dosing, that is that you can do custom dosing, that is that you can do custom dosing, all right? But, the drawback is is that, all right? But, the drawback is is that, all right? But, the drawback is is that, well, you have to know how to calculate well, you have to know how to calculate well, you have to know how to calculate that and put it together. This may be that and put it together. This may be that and put it together. This may be the most controversial thing we have on the most controversial thing we have on the most controversial thing we have on this table. And by Pharma's estimate, it this table. And by Pharma's estimate, it this table. And by Pharma's estimate, it might be the most dangerous thing to might be the most dangerous thing to might be the most dangerous thing to their entire business model. Because their entire business model. Because their entire business model. Because this is tirzepatide, the exact same this is tirzepatide, the exact same this is tirzepatide, the exact same thing that you had in that pen. But, thing that you had in that pen. But, thing that you had in that pen. But, this is made by a high-quality 503A this is made by a high-quality 503A this is made by a high-quality 503A compounding pharmacy. And the reason why compounding pharmacy. And the reason why compounding pharmacy. And the reason why this is uh so controversial right now is this is uh so controversial right now is this is uh so controversial right now is because it offers an incredible amount because it offers an incredible amount because it offers an incredible amount of flexibility because what you have in of flexibility because what you have in of flexibility because what you have in your hand there is very standardized, your hand there is very standardized, your hand there is very standardized, and you administer it once a week cuz and you administer it once a week cuz and you administer it once a week cuz that's what's approved by interest. that's what's approved by interest. that's what's approved by interest. >> This is like the Ozempic thing >> This is like the Ozempic thing >> This is like the Ozempic thing everyone's been talking about. everyone's been talking about. everyone's been talking about. >> Exactly, right? But, think of that as >> Exactly, right? But, think of that as >> Exactly, right? But, think of that as paint by numbers, okay? You are This co- paint by numbers, okay? You are This co- paint by numbers, okay? You are This co- This section is this color, this section This section is this color, this section This section is this color, this section is that color, all right? Think of this is that color, all right? Think of this is that color, all right? Think of this as the thing you've got in your hand as the thing you've got in your hand as the thing you've got in your hand right now. Yeah, exactly. Just a vial of right now. Yeah, exactly. Just a vial of right now. Yeah, exactly. Just a vial of tirzepatide as being a having infinite tirzepatide as being a having infinite tirzepatide as being a having infinite permutations and dosing ability because permutations and dosing ability because permutations and dosing ability because you can draw this up with a small you can draw this up with a small you can draw this up with a small syringe and do microdosing. So, instead syringe and do microdosing. So, instead syringe and do microdosing. So, instead of one large dose once a week because of one large dose once a week because of one large dose once a week because what many patients will experience is what many patients will experience is what many patients will experience is they'll have a return of their hunger by they'll have a return of their hunger by they'll have a return of their hunger by the end of the week and they end up the end of the week and they end up the end of the week and they end up losing ground, you can actually, instead losing ground, you can actually, instead losing ground, you can actually, instead of doing a full dose once a week, you of doing a full dose once a week, you of doing a full dose once a week, you could do multiple mini doses throughout could do multiple mini doses throughout could do multiple mini doses throughout the week with this formulation and with the week with this formulation and with the week with this formulation and with this presentation of the medication. All this presentation of the medication. All this presentation of the medication. All right? But, the challenge is is that right? But, the challenge is is that right? But, the challenge is is that that is the benefit that allows us to be that is the benefit that allows us to be that is the benefit that allows us to be compounded by compounding pharmacies compounded by compounding pharmacies compounded by compounding pharmacies because they are able to provide because they are able to provide because they are able to provide something that is similar to what's in something that is similar to what's in something that is similar to what's in your hand, all right, but it offers more your hand, all right, but it offers more your hand, all right, but it offers more flexibility that may be the right choice flexibility that may be the right choice flexibility that may be the right choice for some patients. So, personal is for some patients. So, personal is for some patients. So, personal is personalization of medicine, okay? But, personalization of medicine, okay? But, personalization of medicine, okay? But, the challenge is is that if you spend the challenge is is that if you spend the challenge is is that if you spend however much money on this, you're not however much money on this, you're not however much money on this, you're not giving it to Lilly. And so, as a result, giving it to Lilly. And so, as a result, giving it to Lilly. And so, as a result, we have seen an unprecedented crackdown we have seen an unprecedented crackdown we have seen an unprecedented crackdown in the United States from the FDA in in the United States from the FDA in in the United States from the FDA in trying to shut down compounding trying to shut down compounding trying to shut down compounding pharmacies and prevent them from making pharmacies and prevent them from making pharmacies and prevent them from making these medications even though that these medications even though that these medications even though that ability to customize, the fact that this ability to customize, the fact that this ability to customize, the fact that this is not an exact copy of what's in your is not an exact copy of what's in your is not an exact copy of what's in your hand right now, should protect it under hand right now, should protect it under hand right now, should protect it under current legislation. But, there is now current legislation. But, there is now current legislation. But, there is now enough pressure from the powers that be enough pressure from the powers that be enough pressure from the powers that be and from lobbyists from both Lilly and and from lobbyists from both Lilly and and from lobbyists from both Lilly and Novo Nordisk that, which are the two Novo Nordisk that, which are the two Novo Nordisk that, which are the two companies that make the GLP-1 companies that make the GLP-1 companies that make the GLP-1 medications, that we're seeing Marty medications, that we're seeing Marty medications, that we're seeing Marty Makary, the FDA commissioner, has now Makary, the FDA commissioner, has now Makary, the FDA commissioner, has now tweeted more about cracking down on tweeted more about cracking down on tweeted more about cracking down on compounded GLP-1 medications than he's compounded GLP-1 medications than he's compounded GLP-1 medications than he's tweeted about diabetes or heart disease tweeted about diabetes or heart disease tweeted about diabetes or heart disease in his entire time in office. And just in his entire time in office. And just in his entire time in office. And just so I understand, I want to play this so I understand, I want to play this so I understand, I want to play this back to you to make sure I understand. back to you to make sure I understand. back to you to make sure I understand. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. In my hand here, I have In my hand here, I have In my hand here, I have tirzepatide on my left. tirzepatide on my left. tirzepatide on my left. >> And this is made by Lilly, which is a >> And this is made by Lilly, which is a >> And this is made by Lilly, which is a corporate company who's patented it so corporate company who's patented it so corporate company who's patented it so they can make lots of money from it. they can make lots of money from it. they can make lots of money from it. >> Correct. In In right hand, I have >> Correct. In In right hand, I have >> Correct. In In right hand, I have tirzepatide. tirzepatide. tirzepatide. >> Tirzepatide with niacinamide. With >> Tirzepatide with niacinamide. With >> Tirzepatide with niacinamide. With niacinamide. niacinamide. niacinamide. >> Yep. And this is not patentable. So, >> Yep. And this is not patentable. So, >> Yep. And this is not patentable. So, Lilly has a patent on the tirzepatide Lilly has a patent on the tirzepatide Lilly has a patent on the tirzepatide molecule in that formulation in your molecule in that formulation in your molecule in that formulation in your hand. Okay? hand. Okay? hand. Okay? >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> And if anyone violates a patent, that >> And if anyone violates a patent, that >> And if anyone violates a patent, that can be pursued in US court. Yep. Patent can be pursued in US court. Yep. Patent can be pursued in US court. Yep. Patent law, right? But what's interesting is law, right? But what's interesting is law, right? But what's interesting is that Lilly and Novo Nordisk know that that Lilly and Novo Nordisk know that that Lilly and Novo Nordisk know that that's different in your right hand. It that's different in your right hand. It that's different in your right hand. It doesn't look the same. You can dose it doesn't look the same. You can dose it doesn't look the same. You can dose it differently. differently. differently. And they know that if they were going to And they know that if they were going to And they know that if they were going to fight that in court, it would cost a lot fight that in court, it would cost a lot fight that in court, it would cost a lot of money and take a lot of time. So, you of money and take a lot of time. So, you of money and take a lot of time. So, you know what's a lot easier? Calling your know what's a lot easier? Calling your know what's a lot easier? Calling your friend at the FDA and getting him to friend at the FDA and getting him to friend at the FDA and getting him to step on the competition so you don't step on the competition so you don't step on the competition so you don't have to. And then who's paying for that have to. And then who's paying for that have to. And then who's paying for that enforcement? It's not the lawyers that enforcement? It's not the lawyers that enforcement? It's not the lawyers that the pharma company is paying for. the pharma company is paying for. the pharma company is paying for. Uh it's the taxpayer paying for the FDA Uh it's the taxpayer paying for the FDA Uh it's the taxpayer paying for the FDA through taxes. And you seem to imply through taxes. And you seem to imply through taxes. And you seem to imply that this was actually better because that this was actually better because that this was actually better because you could take it in a more flexible you could take it in a more flexible you could take it in a more flexible dose. You could take a little bit, a dose. You could take a little bit, a dose. You could take a little bit, a lot. You can take it when you want, lot. You can take it when you want, lot. You can take it when you want, whereas this is kind of once a once a whereas this is kind of once a once a whereas this is kind of once a once a week. Well, I mean, you know, what is week. Well, I mean, you know, what is week. Well, I mean, you know, what is better, right? So, I like this option better, right? So, I like this option better, right? So, I like this option for many of my patients because it's for many of my patients because it's for many of my patients because it's flexible. All right? So, that is flexible. All right? So, that is flexible. All right? So, that is something that works for most patients. something that works for most patients. something that works for most patients. All right? But then then again, this All right? But then then again, this All right? But then then again, this works great for patients, too. Okay. But works great for patients, too. Okay. But works great for patients, too. Okay. But what you want is you want an ecosystem what you want is you want an ecosystem what you want is you want an ecosystem where you have choice so you can make where you have choice so you can make where you have choice so you can make the right choice for the right patient. the right choice for the right patient. the right choice for the right patient. For a lot of patients, they're going to For a lot of patients, they're going to For a lot of patients, they're going to do exceedingly well on this and there's do exceedingly well on this and there's do exceedingly well on this and there's so much data to support that. But I also so much data to support that. But I also so much data to support that. But I also have a lot of patients who get really have a lot of patients who get really have a lot of patients who get really ill after they do a large dose of ill after they do a large dose of ill after they do a large dose of Mounjaro or of GLP-1 men. And if we take Mounjaro or of GLP-1 men. And if we take Mounjaro or of GLP-1 men. And if we take that same dose and we just cut it into that same dose and we just cut it into that same dose and we just cut it into multiple doses within a week, we can multiple doses within a week, we can multiple doses within a week, we can avoid those side effects. avoid those side effects. avoid those side effects. So, you've told me that these peptides So, you've told me that these peptides So, you've told me that these peptides we have on the table in front of us can we have on the table in front of us can we have on the table in front of us can improve your skin, weight loss, muscle, improve your skin, weight loss, muscle, improve your skin, weight loss, muscle, energy, chronic illnesses. You talked energy, chronic illnesses. You talked energy, chronic illnesses. You talked about the cognitive upsides. about the cognitive upsides. about the cognitive upsides. And you talk about it very passionately. And you talk about it very passionately. And you talk about it very passionately. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, one should ask you presumably you're So, one should ask you presumably you're So, one should ask you presumably you're taking some peptides. I am. Yeah. So, taking some peptides. I am. Yeah. So, taking some peptides. I am. Yeah. So, >> do you take? So, I will tell you that as >> do you take? So, I will tell you that as >> do you take? So, I will tell you that as of right now, the only peptide I'm of right now, the only peptide I'm of right now, the only peptide I'm taking is a small dose of tirzepatide, taking is a small dose of tirzepatide, taking is a small dose of tirzepatide, all right? Which is the one we were just all right? Which is the one we were just all right? Which is the one we were just talking about. talking about. talking about. >> Yeah. Because uh back uh couple of >> Yeah. Because uh back uh couple of >> Yeah. Because uh back uh couple of couple of months ago, I was probably couple of months ago, I was probably couple of months ago, I was probably close to about 240 or so, and I was into close to about 240 or so, and I was into close to about 240 or so, and I was into powerlifting, you know, I still am. But, powerlifting, you know, I still am. But, powerlifting, you know, I still am. But, you know, it's really great to be able you know, it's really great to be able you know, it's really great to be able to deadlift 500 lb, but then stairs to deadlift 500 lb, but then stairs to deadlift 500 lb, but then stairs become really hard when you're trying to become really hard when you're trying to become really hard when you're trying to walk up. You're like, I don't know. I walk up. You're like, I don't know. I walk up. You're like, I don't know. I kind of like uh being able to not take a kind of like uh being able to not take a kind of like uh being able to not take a break after two or three flights of break after two or three flights of break after two or three flights of stairs. And so, I was like, okay, all stairs. And so, I was like, okay, all stairs. And so, I was like, okay, all right, longevity is a priority of mine. right, longevity is a priority of mine. right, longevity is a priority of mine. I'm going to slim down a little bit. I I'm going to slim down a little bit. I I'm going to slim down a little bit. I was like, let me just try this for a was like, let me just try this for a was like, let me just try this for a little bit. And what I found is that it little bit. And what I found is that it little bit. And what I found is that it is incredibly potent and at a very low is incredibly potent and at a very low is incredibly potent and at a very low dose, very, very tolerable. Why didn't dose, very, very tolerable. Why didn't dose, very, very tolerable. Why didn't you take some of the others? Honestly, you take some of the others? Honestly, you take some of the others? Honestly, because right now there is not a legal because right now there is not a legal because right now there is not a legal framework for me to obtain them. And the framework for me to obtain them. And the framework for me to obtain them. And the truth is is that I want to be an example truth is is that I want to be an example truth is is that I want to be an example for my patients. And that's why I'm out for my patients. And that's why I'm out for my patients. And that's why I'm out here advocating that we get access to here advocating that we get access to here advocating that we get access to these peptides in a legal, safe way these peptides in a legal, safe way these peptides in a legal, safe way again, all right? And cuz it's it's the again, all right? And cuz it's it's the again, all right? And cuz it's it's the best thing for everyone. If they were best thing for everyone. If they were best thing for everyone. If they were legal, legal, legal, which ones might you consider? Oh, man, which ones might you consider? Oh, man, which ones might you consider? Oh, man, I will tell you this. As some like I I I will tell you this. As some like I I I will tell you this. As some like I I don't know how old you are, so even but don't know how old you are, so even but don't know how old you are, so even but I'm in my I'm in my I'm in my >> 33. 33? God bless you. I will tell you, >> 33. 33? God bless you. I will tell you, >> 33. 33? God bless you. I will tell you, once you get over 35, man, that is once you get over 35, man, that is once you get over 35, man, that is brutal, all right? I sleep on my neck in brutal, all right? I sleep on my neck in brutal, all right? I sleep on my neck in a wrong way, and I need like a freaking a wrong way, and I need like a freaking a wrong way, and I need like a freaking brace for like 2 weeks. And so, as brace for like 2 weeks. And so, as brace for like 2 weeks. And so, as someone who spends a lot of time in the someone who spends a lot of time in the someone who spends a lot of time in the gym, you know, working out, like you gym, you know, working out, like you gym, you know, working out, like you start to accumulate all these little start to accumulate all these little start to accumulate all these little aches and pains. And so, the idea of, aches and pains. And so, the idea of, aches and pains. And so, the idea of, for example, I have a very finicky right for example, I have a very finicky right for example, I have a very finicky right shoulder. If I try to do a really heavy shoulder. If I try to do a really heavy shoulder. If I try to do a really heavy bench and I haven't warmed up, I can bench and I haven't warmed up, I can bench and I haven't warmed up, I can tweak this, and it takes me out of the tweak this, and it takes me out of the tweak this, and it takes me out of the fight for at least a month, okay? And I fight for at least a month, okay? And I fight for at least a month, okay? And I have to do other things. You know, I have to do other things. You know, I have to do other things. You know, I would have killed at various points in would have killed at various points in would have killed at various points in time over the past 2 years to have had time over the past 2 years to have had time over the past 2 years to have had BPC and TB-500 to hopefully speed that BPC and TB-500 to hopefully speed that BPC and TB-500 to hopefully speed that sort of healing, all right? Um also, for sort of healing, all right? Um also, for sort of healing, all right? Um also, for example, I suffer from really bad uh example, I suffer from really bad uh example, I suffer from really bad uh rosacea. It flares constantly. rosacea. It flares constantly. rosacea. It flares constantly. >> What's that? So, just redness of the >> What's that? So, just redness of the >> What's that? So, just redness of the face, okay? That, you know, it makes me face, okay? That, you know, it makes me face, okay? That, you know, it makes me look like I'm sunburnt. And then I come look like I'm sunburnt. And then I come look like I'm sunburnt. And then I come in on the office on like a Tuesday and in on the office on like a Tuesday and in on the office on like a Tuesday and then my staff's like, "Oh my gosh, you then my staff's like, "Oh my gosh, you then my staff's like, "Oh my gosh, you got in the yard and do some work this got in the yard and do some work this got in the yard and do some work this week?" I'm like, "It's just my face." Um week?" I'm like, "It's just my face." Um week?" I'm like, "It's just my face." Um you know, for example, that's something you know, for example, that's something you know, for example, that's something that a lot of people have reported that a lot of people have reported that a lot of people have reported benefits from GH KCU from. So, again, benefits from GH KCU from. So, again, benefits from GH KCU from. So, again, another compound, another peptide that another compound, another peptide that another compound, another peptide that could be beneficial for a patient like could be beneficial for a patient like could be beneficial for a patient like myself. What about muscle mass and myself. What about muscle mass and myself. What about muscle mass and gaining muscle? Yeah, so that is an gaining muscle? Yeah, so that is an gaining muscle? Yeah, so that is an interesting misnomer because that has interesting misnomer because that has interesting misnomer because that has been a common selling point that you'll been a common selling point that you'll been a common selling point that you'll see on social media, but as of right see on social media, but as of right see on social media, but as of right now, the only peptide that you might now, the only peptide that you might now, the only peptide that you might construe that way would be construe that way would be construe that way would be this guy right here in my hand, IGF-1 this guy right here in my hand, IGF-1 this guy right here in my hand, IGF-1 LR3, okay? Now, IGF-1 LR3 is basically LR3, okay? Now, IGF-1 LR3 is basically LR3, okay? Now, IGF-1 LR3 is basically the longer-lasting version of IGF-1, the longer-lasting version of IGF-1, the longer-lasting version of IGF-1, which is the downstream effect of growth which is the downstream effect of growth which is the downstream effect of growth hormone. I'm sure you've heard of hormone. I'm sure you've heard of hormone. I'm sure you've heard of bodybuilders taking growth hormone to bodybuilders taking growth hormone to bodybuilders taking growth hormone to increase size and you know, lose fat. In increase size and you know, lose fat. In increase size and you know, lose fat. In higher doses, it can help contribute to higher doses, it can help contribute to higher doses, it can help contribute to muscle uh mass, all right? But muscle uh mass, all right? But muscle uh mass, all right? But truthfully, if you're trying to gain truthfully, if you're trying to gain truthfully, if you're trying to gain significant muscle mass, this is this is significant muscle mass, this is this is significant muscle mass, this is this is not the way to do it. And so, the right not the way to do it. And so, the right not the way to do it. And so, the right now, one of the things that peptides now, one of the things that peptides now, one of the things that peptides can't do for you is independently put on can't do for you is independently put on can't do for you is independently put on significant amounts of lean mass. You significant amounts of lean mass. You significant amounts of lean mass. You still have to go to the gym. You still still have to go to the gym. You still still have to go to the gym. You still have to go to the gym, believe it or have to go to the gym, believe it or have to go to the gym, believe it or not. And guess what? not. And guess what? not. And guess what? >> that's the end of the podcast. >> that's the end of the podcast. >> that's the end of the podcast. I I tell you and but something that I I tell you and but something that I I tell you and but something that blows my mind is that I have so many blows my mind is that I have so many blows my mind is that I have so many patients that think that they can just patients that think that they can just patients that think that they can just take testosterone and just put on muscle take testosterone and just put on muscle take testosterone and just put on muscle naturally. And it doesn't work that way. naturally. And it doesn't work that way. naturally. And it doesn't work that way. You might get a tiny little bit, but you You might get a tiny little bit, but you You might get a tiny little bit, but you still have to have stimulus. You still still have to have stimulus. You still still have to have stimulus. You still have to get in the gym, you still have have to get in the gym, you still have have to get in the gym, you still have to put the work in. And so, I tell to put the work in. And so, I tell to put the work in. And so, I tell patients that I am not a replacement for patients that I am not a replacement for patients that I am not a replacement for a personal trainer. I'm your doctor, you a personal trainer. I'm your doctor, you a personal trainer. I'm your doctor, you also need your personal trainer, and also need your personal trainer, and also need your personal trainer, and most of you need a nutritionist, man. most of you need a nutritionist, man. most of you need a nutritionist, man. And so, I'm lucky to work with some And so, I'm lucky to work with some And so, I'm lucky to work with some great people in the community who great people in the community who great people in the community who partner with me on that. But, you know, partner with me on that. But, you know, partner with me on that. But, you know, it's a it's a full court press when it's a it's a full court press when it's a it's a full court press when you're trying to get people to you know, you're trying to get people to you know, you're trying to get people to you know, live the highest quality life. What live the highest quality life. What live the highest quality life. What about some of these metabolic disorders about some of these metabolic disorders about some of these metabolic disorders and diseases in terms of like insulin and diseases in terms of like insulin and diseases in terms of like insulin Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> resistance. People in the data we see of >> resistance. People in the data we see of >> resistance. People in the data we see of the audience uh the audience uh the audience uh very interested to learn about insulin. very interested to learn about insulin. very interested to learn about insulin. I see that a lot in the comment section I see that a lot in the comment section I see that a lot in the comment section and a lot of at and a lot of at and a lot of at Yeah. So, how can if someone's Yeah. So, how can if someone's Yeah. So, how can if someone's struggling with their insulin levels or struggling with their insulin levels or struggling with their insulin levels or their you know their glucose response, their you know their glucose response, their you know their glucose response, how does these peptides help? Honestly, how does these peptides help? Honestly, how does these peptides help? Honestly, the best peptides for that right now are the best peptides for that right now are the best peptides for that right now are the GLP-1 drugs. Okay, hands down. the GLP-1 drugs. Okay, hands down. the GLP-1 drugs. Okay, hands down. Because what you're doing is you are Because what you're doing is you are Because what you're doing is you are slowing gastric emptying and so you have slowing gastric emptying and so you have slowing gastric emptying and so you have a slower absorption of that bolus of a slower absorption of that bolus of a slower absorption of that bolus of food that you've eaten, so your glucose food that you've eaten, so your glucose food that you've eaten, so your glucose doesn't spike. And so, as a result, that doesn't spike. And so, as a result, that doesn't spike. And so, as a result, that increases insulin sensitivity increases insulin sensitivity increases insulin sensitivity significantly. Now, again, you have to significantly. Now, again, you have to significantly. Now, again, you have to be [clears throat] careful about what be [clears throat] careful about what be [clears throat] careful about what peptide you're using for what. A lot of peptide you're using for what. A lot of peptide you're using for what. A lot of these peptides that boost growth hormone these peptides that boost growth hormone these peptides that boost growth hormone and boost, let's say, IGF-1, those can and boost, let's say, IGF-1, those can and boost, let's say, IGF-1, those can actually increase serum glucose and that actually increase serum glucose and that actually increase serum glucose and that may not be what you want if you are may not be what you want if you are may not be what you want if you are someone that is trying to work on your someone that is trying to work on your someone that is trying to work on your insulin sensitivity. insulin sensitivity. insulin sensitivity. And do any of these peptides come as And do any of these peptides come as And do any of these peptides come as like creams or as pills or anything like like creams or as pills or anything like like creams or as pills or anything like that? If you look online, you can that? If you look online, you can that? If you look online, you can probably find a version of everything. probably find a version of everything. probably find a version of everything. But if we're talking about actual But if we're talking about actual But if we're talking about actual legitimate formulations, the best legitimate formulations, the best legitimate formulations, the best example of a topical cream is going to example of a topical cream is going to example of a topical cream is going to be GHK-Cu. And this is interesting be GHK-Cu. And this is interesting be GHK-Cu. And this is interesting because this is a copper tripeptide that because this is a copper tripeptide that because this is a copper tripeptide that has been found to decrease in expression has been found to decrease in expression has been found to decrease in expression and concentration as we age. But when it and concentration as we age. But when it and concentration as we age. But when it is applied topically, it's highly is applied topically, it's highly is applied topically, it's highly effective. Topically, so putting on a effective. Topically, so putting on a effective. Topically, so putting on a cream on your face, all right? It's been cream on your face, all right? It's been cream on your face, all right? It's been found to be extremely beneficial in found to be extremely beneficial in found to be extremely beneficial in regenerating the quality of skin. So, regenerating the quality of skin. So, regenerating the quality of skin. So, complexion, all right? Increasing the complexion, all right? Increasing the complexion, all right? Increasing the amount of collagen and elastin, the amount of collagen and elastin, the amount of collagen and elastin, the things that we need to keep our faces things that we need to keep our faces things that we need to keep our faces taut and youthful, the things that taut and youthful, the things that taut and youthful, the things that people will pay lots of money to go get people will pay lots of money to go get people will pay lots of money to go get laser to get improvements. Not that it's laser to get improvements. Not that it's laser to get improvements. Not that it's a replacement for that, but that's a a replacement for that, but that's a a replacement for that, but that's a topical form that, believe it or not, topical form that, believe it or not, topical form that, believe it or not, you could go out and buy today because you could go out and buy today because you could go out and buy today because topical GHK-Cu is regulated very topical GHK-Cu is regulated very topical GHK-Cu is regulated very differently than the injectable form. Is differently than the injectable form. Is differently than the injectable form. Is it expensive? Usually. You know, growing it expensive? Usually. You know, growing it expensive? Usually. You know, growing up, I thought well, these sort of up, I thought well, these sort of up, I thought well, these sort of anti-aging creams were anti-aging creams were anti-aging creams were But but you're telling me that this has But but you're telling me that this has But but you're telling me that this has actually been associated with improving actually been associated with improving actually been associated with improving signs of aging. I will tell you this, signs of aging. I will tell you this, signs of aging. I will tell you this, when I was going through college and when I was going through college and when I was going through college and medical school, I was the biggest medical school, I was the biggest medical school, I was the biggest skeptic. Like I did not believe any of skeptic. Like I did not believe any of skeptic. Like I did not believe any of the health or wellness claims that we the health or wellness claims that we the health or wellness claims that we saw coming out at the time. And again, saw coming out at the time. And again, saw coming out at the time. And again, you know, that was at a time where we you know, that was at a time where we you know, that was at a time where we were getting bombarded with stuff about were getting bombarded with stuff about were getting bombarded with stuff about the Atkins diet and this, that, and the the Atkins diet and this, that, and the the Atkins diet and this, that, and the other. But then all of a sudden, you other. But then all of a sudden, you other. But then all of a sudden, you start having patients come back to you start having patients come back to you start having patients come back to you and they're testifying as the benefits and they're testifying as the benefits and they're testifying as the benefits they've seen from these things. You they've seen from these things. You they've seen from these things. You start to actually look at the start to actually look at the start to actually look at the biochemistry behind them and you're biochemistry behind them and you're biochemistry behind them and you're like, there's a lot of science backing like, there's a lot of science backing like, there's a lot of science backing this up. This isn't just mumbo jumbo. this up. This isn't just mumbo jumbo. this up. This isn't just mumbo jumbo. And so, believe it or not, yeah, there And so, believe it or not, yeah, there And so, believe it or not, yeah, there are creams that can slow the process of are creams that can slow the process of are creams that can slow the process of aging, at least from a visual aging, at least from a visual aging, at least from a visual standpoint, when it comes to your skin. standpoint, when it comes to your skin. standpoint, when it comes to your skin. I have yet to figure out anything that, I have yet to figure out anything that, I have yet to figure out anything that, uh, you know, makes me as energetic as I uh, you know, makes me as energetic as I uh, you know, makes me as energetic as I was in my early 20s, but you know, I'm was in my early 20s, but you know, I'm was in my early 20s, but you know, I'm working on it. working on it. working on it. But on that point of energy and But on that point of energy and But on that point of energy and cognition, if I wanted to become a cognition, if I wanted to become a cognition, if I wanted to become a better podcaster, better podcaster, better podcaster, >> Yeah. and you know, I sit here >> Yeah. and you know, I sit here >> Yeah. and you know, I sit here sometimes. Sometimes we do two in a day, sometimes. Sometimes we do two in a day, sometimes. Sometimes we do two in a day, which means I might sit here for hours. which means I might sit here for hours. which means I might sit here for hours. Once we do, I think a couple of times Once we do, I think a couple of times Once we do, I think a couple of times we've done three in a day. That's we've done three in a day. That's we've done three in a day. That's brutal. brutal. brutal. >> 12 hours of recording. But what would >> 12 hours of recording. But what would >> 12 hours of recording. But what would you recommend if I was trying to improve you recommend if I was trying to improve you recommend if I was trying to improve my cognitive performance? my cognitive performance? my cognitive performance? >> So, again, as a physician who likes >> So, again, as a physician who likes >> So, again, as a physician who likes keeping my license, I wouldn't say keeping my license, I wouldn't say keeping my license, I wouldn't say necessarily recommend, but I would say necessarily recommend, but I would say necessarily recommend, but I would say if we're looking at how these if we're looking at how these if we're looking at how these medications have been used, and medications have been used, and medications have been used, and potentially one that may be legal again potentially one that may be legal again potentially one that may be legal again coming this July, pending what the FDA coming this July, pending what the FDA coming this July, pending what the FDA says, intranasal C-Max. And this is one says, intranasal C-Max. And this is one says, intranasal C-Max. And this is one that was originally studied actually in that was originally studied actually in that was originally studied actually in Russia many years ago. And what they Russia many years ago. And what they Russia many years ago. And what they found is that this seven-amino acid found is that this seven-amino acid found is that this seven-amino acid peptide, when it was administered after peptide, when it was administered after peptide, when it was administered after a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, TBI, so a traumatic brain injury, all TBI, so a traumatic brain injury, all TBI, so a traumatic brain injury, all right, or acute injury, that patients right, or acute injury, that patients right, or acute injury, that patients tended to bounce back faster. Also, they tended to bounce back faster. Also, they tended to bounce back faster. Also, they saw evidence of it improving outcomes saw evidence of it improving outcomes saw evidence of it improving outcomes after stroke. And it also seems to after stroke. And it also seems to after stroke. And it also seems to upregulate the same sort of factors that upregulate the same sort of factors that upregulate the same sort of factors that help with cognition and with, you know, help with cognition and with, you know, help with cognition and with, you know, connecting sentences and bits of data in connecting sentences and bits of data in connecting sentences and bits of data in your brain. And so, it's also one of your brain. And so, it's also one of your brain. And so, it's also one of the, interestingly enough, one of the the, interestingly enough, one of the the, interestingly enough, one of the ones that is available, you know, ones that is available, you know, ones that is available, you know, intranasally, because it goes through intranasally, because it goes through intranasally, because it goes through the mucus membranes and gets right where the mucus membranes and gets right where the mucus membranes and gets right where you need it. And so, that's going to be you need it. And so, that's going to be you need it. And so, that's going to be a really, really fascinating, uh, a really, really fascinating, uh, a really, really fascinating, uh, compound to see back on the market, and compound to see back on the market, and compound to see back on the market, and then we can actually get more data then we can actually get more data then we can actually get more data regarding efficacy and, you know, across regarding efficacy and, you know, across regarding efficacy and, you know, across a wide population. a wide population. a wide population. So interesting. And you you you sniff So interesting. And you you you sniff So interesting. And you you you sniff that through your nose. that through your nose. that through your nose. >> Sniff through like like you would for >> Sniff through like like you would for >> Sniff through like like you would for any nasal decongestant, right? And if any nasal decongestant, right? And if any nasal decongestant, right? And if you have allergies or something like you have allergies or something like you have allergies or something like that. Also, for someone like yourself, that. Also, for someone like yourself, that. Also, for someone like yourself, you travel a lot. You know, you're going you travel a lot. You know, you're going you travel a lot. You know, you're going in between different time zones. You're in between different time zones. You're in between different time zones. You're balancing multiple obligations at balancing multiple obligations at balancing multiple obligations at different odd times of the day. I I different odd times of the day. I I different odd times of the day. I I shudder to think what your circadian shudder to think what your circadian shudder to think what your circadian rhythm looks like, my friend. Um but, rhythm looks like, my friend. Um but, rhythm looks like, my friend. Um but, you know, that is what we have some of you know, that is what we have some of you know, that is what we have some of these other compounds that are coming these other compounds that are coming these other compounds that are coming going to be available for. So, if we going to be available for. So, if we going to be available for. So, if we look at look at look at uh D sip, okay? That has been shown to uh D sip, okay? That has been shown to uh D sip, okay? That has been shown to be helpful with regulating your be helpful with regulating your be helpful with regulating your circadian rhythm. All right? That is one circadian rhythm. All right? That is one circadian rhythm. All right? That is one of the ones that's going to be approved, of the ones that's going to be approved, of the ones that's going to be approved, hopefully, here soon. Again, in July, hopefully, here soon. Again, in July, hopefully, here soon. Again, in July, right? And then, you know, on top of right? And then, you know, on top of right? And then, you know, on top of that, um you've got, you know, things that, um you've got, you know, things that, um you've got, you know, things like Selank, which is another one that like Selank, which is another one that like Selank, which is another one that can help calm you as you're going to can help calm you as you're going to can help calm you as you're going to sleep about an hour ahead of time. And sleep about an hour ahead of time. And sleep about an hour ahead of time. And again, hope help those, you know, deep again, hope help those, you know, deep again, hope help those, you know, deep delta wave brain waves that are so delta wave brain waves that are so delta wave brain waves that are so restorative whenever you actually are, restorative whenever you actually are, restorative whenever you actually are, you know, resting. you know, resting. you know, resting. Where will we be able to buy these when Where will we be able to buy these when Where will we be able to buy these when and if they are legalized? So, from and if they are legalized? So, from and if they are legalized? So, from >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> uh >> uh >> uh 503A compounders here in the United 503A compounders here in the United 503A compounders here in the United States with a prescription from a States with a prescription from a States with a prescription from a physician. So, you still need a physician. So, you still need a physician. So, you still need a prescription? prescription? prescription? >> Still need a prescription, correct. >> Still need a prescription, correct. >> Still need a prescription, correct. Could be quite crazy world when Could be quite crazy world when Could be quite crazy world when everybody seem is going to be in everybody seem is going to be in everybody seem is going to be in injecting themselves every injecting themselves every injecting themselves every every day. I mean, we're already getting every day. I mean, we're already getting every day. I mean, we're already getting to that point now with this Empatic to that point now with this Empatic to that point now with this Empatic where I've got loads of people in my my where I've got loads of people in my my where I've got loads of people in my my friendship group that are Yeah. And friendship group that are Yeah. And friendship group that are Yeah. And they're Yeah, and they're doing great. they're Yeah, and they're doing great. they're Yeah, and they're doing great. Yeah, they're doing great. Yeah, they're doing great. Yeah, they're doing great. >> doing great. And that's what I like >> doing great. And that's what I like >> doing great. And that's what I like about, you know, the advent of these about, you know, the advent of these about, you know, the advent of these GLP-1s is they're removing the stigma of GLP-1s is they're removing the stigma of GLP-1s is they're removing the stigma of a needle. And I look at some of my a needle. And I look at some of my a needle. And I look at some of my friends who have been on it. I can't friends who have been on it. I can't friends who have been on it. I can't recognize them. They look awesome. Are recognize them. They look awesome. Are recognize them. They look awesome. Are you concerned with with any of them? You you concerned with with any of them? You you concerned with with any of them? You know, I've got a couple of friends in my know, I've got a couple of friends in my know, I've got a couple of friends in my circle where I'm I'm a little bit circle where I'm I'm a little bit circle where I'm I'm a little bit concerned. I I don't even know if I concerned. I I don't even know if I concerned. I I don't even know if I should be concerned, but it's just when should be concerned, but it's just when should be concerned, but it's just when you see someone you know change so you see someone you know change so you see someone you know change so dramatically so quickly, Yeah. I think dramatically so quickly, Yeah. I think dramatically so quickly, Yeah. I think there's something in us which there's something in us which there's something in us which something prehistoric in us which goes, something prehistoric in us which goes, something prehistoric in us which goes, "Oh my god, there's a problem." Yeah. "Oh my god, there's a problem." Yeah. "Oh my god, there's a problem." Yeah. One thing I'm I am concerned about is One thing I'm I am concerned about is One thing I'm I am concerned about is the rapid weight loss with GLP-1 the rapid weight loss with GLP-1 the rapid weight loss with GLP-1 medications. Because the problem is is medications. Because the problem is is medications. Because the problem is is that when you go into such a radical that when you go into such a radical that when you go into such a radical caloric deficit, your body goes into caloric deficit, your body goes into caloric deficit, your body goes into catabolism, which is breaking down catabolism, which is breaking down catabolism, which is breaking down tissue. And you want to break down fat, tissue. And you want to break down fat, tissue. And you want to break down fat, right? But your body isn't that right? But your body isn't that right? But your body isn't that judicious. It's going to break down judicious. It's going to break down judicious. It's going to break down muscle. And muscle is the most muscle. And muscle is the most muscle. And muscle is the most metabolically important tissue that any metabolically important tissue that any metabolically important tissue that any of us have. And so if you really want to of us have. And so if you really want to of us have. And so if you really want to optimize your insulin sensitivity, well, optimize your insulin sensitivity, well, optimize your insulin sensitivity, well, you need to maintain your muscle. And you need to maintain your muscle. And you need to maintain your muscle. And right now, really the only compounds right now, really the only compounds right now, really the only compounds that we have that are really good at that we have that are really good at that we have that are really good at preserving muscle with resistance preserving muscle with resistance preserving muscle with resistance training is testosterone, right? But training is testosterone, right? But training is testosterone, right? But that isn't going to be a good option for that isn't going to be a good option for that isn't going to be a good option for our male patients that want to get our male patients that want to get our male patients that want to get pregnant cuz testosterone turns off pregnant cuz testosterone turns off pregnant cuz testosterone turns off fertility in men, all right? It's also fertility in men, all right? It's also fertility in men, all right? It's also not a great idea for our female not a great idea for our female not a great idea for our female patients, all right? Depending on their patients, all right? Depending on their patients, all right? Depending on their age, testosterone TRT is a thing in age, testosterone TRT is a thing in age, testosterone TRT is a thing in older, you know, women, menopausal, older, you know, women, menopausal, older, you know, women, menopausal, won't go into that. But truthfully, won't go into that. But truthfully, won't go into that. But truthfully, testosterone is not the right answer for testosterone is not the right answer for testosterone is not the right answer for everybody. And so what we are going to everybody. And so what we are going to everybody. And so what we are going to see come down the pipe very soon is kind see come down the pipe very soon is kind see come down the pipe very soon is kind of the older brother of peptides, the of the older brother of peptides, the of the older brother of peptides, the more complex form, biologics, called more complex form, biologics, called more complex form, biologics, called monoclonal antibodies, that are monoclonal antibodies, that are monoclonal antibodies, that are specifically designed to inhibit the specifically designed to inhibit the specifically designed to inhibit the enzymes that break down muscle. So these enzymes that break down muscle. So these enzymes that break down muscle. So these are specifically called myostatin are specifically called myostatin are specifically called myostatin inhibitors. There are three that are inhibitors. There are three that are inhibitors. There are three that are coming down the pipeline. There is one coming down the pipeline. There is one coming down the pipeline. There is one called bimagrumab, which is owned by called bimagrumab, which is owned by called bimagrumab, which is owned by Lilly. That is going to bind to the Lilly. That is going to bind to the Lilly. That is going to bind to the peanut butter to myostatin's jelly, peanut butter to myostatin's jelly, peanut butter to myostatin's jelly, which is called activin. And then you which is called activin. And then you which is called activin. And then you have roledumab and trevogrumab, which have roledumab and trevogrumab, which have roledumab and trevogrumab, which are two other compounds owned by are two other compounds owned by are two other compounds owned by different pharmaceutical company that different pharmaceutical company that different pharmaceutical company that are all designed to maintain muscle even are all designed to maintain muscle even are all designed to maintain muscle even in a significant caloric deficit. This in a significant caloric deficit. This in a significant caloric deficit. This is getting interesting now. is getting interesting now. is getting interesting now. >> Yeah. Yeah. So you're you're telling me >> Yeah. Yeah. So you're you're telling me >> Yeah. Yeah. So you're you're telling me I'm going to be able to inject myself I'm going to be able to inject myself I'm going to be able to inject myself with this peptide to lose the fat and with this peptide to lose the fat and with this peptide to lose the fat and then inject myself with something else then inject myself with something else then inject myself with something else to keep the muscle. It's wild. to keep the muscle. It's wild. to keep the muscle. It's wild. It's wild. And and I'll tell you, you know, one of And and I'll tell you, you know, one of the hardest things that I'm sure you've the hardest things that I'm sure you've the hardest things that I'm sure you've heard being on the receiving end of this heard being on the receiving end of this heard being on the receiving end of this is just the complexity of it. And there is just the complexity of it. And there is just the complexity of it. And there are so many levers that are moving at are so many levers that are moving at are so many levers that are moving at once. And trying to get your head around once. And trying to get your head around once. And trying to get your head around it and balance it all. Like it requires it and balance it all. Like it requires it and balance it all. Like it requires nuance and it requires a thoughtful nuance and it requires a thoughtful nuance and it requires a thoughtful discussion with your doctor who is well discussion with your doctor who is well discussion with your doctor who is well educated on them. And that's one of the educated on them. And that's one of the educated on them. And that's one of the challenges is that there isn't broad challenges is that there isn't broad challenges is that there isn't broad great education on these products right great education on these products right great education on these products right now in the medical space. And so, that's now in the medical space. And so, that's now in the medical space. And so, that's something that I'm very passionate about something that I'm very passionate about something that I'm very passionate about is improving education across my is improving education across my is improving education across my colleagues so that they're not afraid of colleagues so that they're not afraid of colleagues so that they're not afraid of these anymore. these anymore. these anymore. What do you say to people who are What do you say to people who are What do you say to people who are listening to this now who are listening to this now who are listening to this now who are out, why don't you just like eat your out, why don't you just like eat your out, why don't you just like eat your greens and go to the gym? Yeah. And just greens and go to the gym? Yeah. And just greens and go to the gym? Yeah. And just be more human and you'll be fine. I love be more human and you'll be fine. I love be more human and you'll be fine. I love that. I love eating your greens and that. I love eating your greens and that. I love eating your greens and going to the gym, okay? Um but the going to the gym, okay? Um but the going to the gym, okay? Um but the unfortunate reality is that here in the unfortunate reality is that here in the unfortunate reality is that here in the United States uh it depends on what United States uh it depends on what United States uh it depends on what database you look at, but obesity rates database you look at, but obesity rates database you look at, but obesity rates are estimated to be 40 to 70%, okay? are estimated to be 40 to 70%, okay? are estimated to be 40 to 70%, okay? Whether you depending on what BMI cutoff Whether you depending on what BMI cutoff Whether you depending on what BMI cutoff you're using, okay? BMI's not perfect, you're using, okay? BMI's not perfect, you're using, okay? BMI's not perfect, but it is what it is. And so, the thing but it is what it is. And so, the thing but it is what it is. And so, the thing is is that well, eating greens and going is is that well, eating greens and going is is that well, eating greens and going to the gym are not working for us as a to the gym are not working for us as a to the gym are not working for us as a society. And we could talk about how we society. And we could talk about how we society. And we could talk about how we don't have real food anymore, we have don't have real food anymore, we have don't have real food anymore, we have food deserts, we have this nut- food deserts, we have this nut- food deserts, we have this nut- calorically dense but nutritionally poor calorically dense but nutritionally poor calorically dense but nutritionally poor food. I'll tell you the most disturbing food. I'll tell you the most disturbing food. I'll tell you the most disturbing thing I see as a surgeon is I'll see a thing I see as a surgeon is I'll see a thing I see as a surgeon is I'll see a patient come in the door and they're patient come in the door and they're patient come in the door and they're morbidly obese. They're a large morbidly obese. They're a large morbidly obese. They're a large individual, but I have to do surgery on individual, but I have to do surgery on individual, but I have to do surgery on them, but the connective tissue, the them, but the connective tissue, the them, but the connective tissue, the stuff that's made up of protein that stuff that's made up of protein that stuff that's made up of protein that makes them them that literally holds makes them them that literally holds makes them them that literally holds them together is paper paper thin them together is paper paper thin them together is paper paper thin because they're eating an incredible because they're eating an incredible because they're eating an incredible amount of calories, they're gaining fat, amount of calories, they're gaining fat, amount of calories, they're gaining fat, but they don't have any protein in their but they don't have any protein in their but they don't have any protein in their diet. And that's not something that's diet. And that's not something that's diet. And that's not something that's rare. I see that on a daily basis. And rare. I see that on a daily basis. And rare. I see that on a daily basis. And so, the truth is is that, you know, so, the truth is is that, you know, so, the truth is is that, you know, we're talking about this from the angle we're talking about this from the angle we're talking about this from the angle of biohackers and people that are super of biohackers and people that are super of biohackers and people that are super engaged in our health, but the truth is engaged in our health, but the truth is engaged in our health, but the truth is is that this is going to be able to be is that this is going to be able to be is that this is going to be able to be used to help our population at large used to help our population at large used to help our population at large and, you know, ultimately hopefully and, you know, ultimately hopefully and, you know, ultimately hopefully avoid a lot of the terrible disease avoid a lot of the terrible disease avoid a lot of the terrible disease states that we're seeing overwhelm the states that we're seeing overwhelm the states that we're seeing overwhelm the medical system right now. How big is the medical system right now. How big is the medical system right now. How big is the peptide industry right now? peptide industry right now? peptide industry right now? If we look at the top four large If we look at the top four large If we look at the top four large language models companies, all right? language models companies, all right? language models companies, all right? So, all the heavy hitters and how much So, all the heavy hitters and how much So, all the heavy hitters and how much revenue they're generating, it's revenue they're generating, it's revenue they're generating, it's estimated between be between 58 billion estimated between be between 58 billion estimated between be between 58 billion up to maybe 62 billion. Yet the income up to maybe 62 billion. Yet the income up to maybe 62 billion. Yet the income and the revenue from just semaglutide and the revenue from just semaglutide and the revenue from just semaglutide and tirzepatide alone is going to be and tirzepatide alone is going to be and tirzepatide alone is going to be over 55 billion this year. And so, what over 55 billion this year. And so, what over 55 billion this year. And so, what we have is peptides without even we have is peptides without even we have is peptides without even considering all of this happening in the considering all of this happening in the considering all of this happening in the research space or the research use only research space or the research use only research space or the research use only space. Without even considering the space. Without even considering the space. Without even considering the peptides that we'll see come from peptides that we'll see come from peptides that we'll see come from compounding pharmacies, we're already compounding pharmacies, we're already compounding pharmacies, we're already approaching parity with what we're approaching parity with what we're approaching parity with what we're seeing in AI as far as revenue goes. seeing in AI as far as revenue goes. seeing in AI as far as revenue goes. That is the demand that we're seeing in That is the demand that we're seeing in That is the demand that we're seeing in the marketplace. the marketplace. the marketplace. I run multiple companies that have I run multiple companies that have I run multiple companies that have multiple sales teams. And one of the multiple sales teams. And one of the multiple sales teams. 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When your patients come and see you, Dr. When your patients come and see you, Dr. When your patients come and see you, Dr. Alex, Alex, Alex, what are they asking you most frequently what are they asking you most frequently what are they asking you most frequently as it relates to peptides? What are like as it relates to peptides? What are like as it relates to peptides? What are like the top three questions you get asked the top three questions you get asked the top three questions you get asked the most? The first thing I get asked is the most? The first thing I get asked is the most? The first thing I get asked is what peptides do I need? And then I just what peptides do I need? And then I just what peptides do I need? And then I just look at them. I'm like, well, what's look at them. I'm like, well, what's look at them. I'm like, well, what's your problem? You [laughter] know, like, your problem? You [laughter] know, like, your problem? You [laughter] know, like, what what's bothering you? And what do what what's bothering you? And what do what what's bothering you? And what do they say? You know, and then they'll they say? You know, and then they'll they say? You know, and then they'll come in and they'll start talking about come in and they'll start talking about come in and they'll start talking about energy, sex drive, and that sort of energy, sex drive, and that sort of energy, sex drive, and that sort of things. And I'm like, okay, if that's things. And I'm like, okay, if that's things. And I'm like, okay, if that's it, well, we need to check your it, well, we need to check your it, well, we need to check your testosterone levels, brother. Okay? So, testosterone levels, brother. Okay? So, testosterone levels, brother. Okay? So, instead of looking for peptides, right? instead of looking for peptides, right? instead of looking for peptides, right? You know, you don't walk into a Home You know, you don't walk into a Home You know, you don't walk into a Home Depot or a Lowe's, you know, and be Depot or a Lowe's, you know, and be Depot or a Lowe's, you know, and be like, "What tools do I do I need?" And like, "What tools do I do I need?" And like, "What tools do I do I need?" And you're like, "What are you trying to do, you're like, "What are you trying to do, you're like, "What are you trying to do, right?" And then you start to talk to right?" And then you start to talk to right?" And then you start to talk to someone there like, "Well, I'm trying to someone there like, "Well, I'm trying to someone there like, "Well, I'm trying to build this." Okay, you need a saw, you build this." Okay, you need a saw, you build this." Okay, you need a saw, you need a screwdriver, you need this. And need a screwdriver, you need this. And need a screwdriver, you need this. And some of those tools might be peptides, some of those tools might be peptides, some of those tools might be peptides, all right? But some of them may be all right? But some of them may be all right? But some of them may be hormones. You know, some of it may be hormones. You know, some of it may be hormones. You know, some of it may be diet and exercise. And so, peptides are diet and exercise. And so, peptides are diet and exercise. And so, peptides are just another type of tool that we can just another type of tool that we can just another type of tool that we can use. use. use. >> want a shortcut, though, doctor. We all >> want a shortcut, though, doctor. We all >> want a shortcut, though, doctor. We all want a quick way to to be better, and want a quick way to to be better, and want a quick way to to be better, and ideally not have to do hard work. That's ideally not have to do hard work. That's ideally not have to do hard work. That's like what most people, you know, the like what most people, you know, the like what most people, you know, the average person is looking for. And we average person is looking for. And we average person is looking for. And we hear about these peptides, we hear other hear about these peptides, we hear other hear about these peptides, we hear other people are taking them, we hear they're people are taking them, we hear they're people are taking them, we hear they're fantastic results in skin, hair, muscle, fantastic results in skin, hair, muscle, fantastic results in skin, hair, muscle, and we go, "Fucking, what about me?" You and we go, "Fucking, what about me?" You and we go, "Fucking, what about me?" You know what I tell patients? I'm like, know what I tell patients? I'm like, know what I tell patients? I'm like, "Me, too, man." You know, but my alarm "Me, too, man." You know, but my alarm "Me, too, man." You know, but my alarm still went off at 4:45 this morning so I still went off at 4:45 this morning so I still went off at 4:45 this morning so I could hit the gym before I made it to could hit the gym before I made it to could hit the gym before I made it to clinic because there are no real clinic because there are no real clinic because there are no real shortcuts. There are things that can shortcuts. There are things that can shortcuts. There are things that can help, right? GLP-1s are the best example help, right? GLP-1s are the best example help, right? GLP-1s are the best example of that, right? Okay, this is the of that, right? Okay, this is the of that, right? Okay, this is the closest thing to a shortcut you're going closest thing to a shortcut you're going closest thing to a shortcut you're going to get. But the truth is is that this to get. But the truth is is that this to get. But the truth is is that this isn't going to go to the gym for you, isn't going to go to the gym for you, isn't going to go to the gym for you, and it's not going to lift the weights and it's not going to lift the weights and it's not going to lift the weights so you can maintain that muscle mass so so you can maintain that muscle mass so so you can maintain that muscle mass so you get the best possible result. Try to you get the best possible result. Try to you get the best possible result. Try to hold on to your muscle while losing the hold on to your muscle while losing the hold on to your muscle while losing the fat. One thing I've learned from doing fat. One thing I've learned from doing fat. One thing I've learned from doing this podcast that that has really grown this podcast that that has really grown this podcast that that has really grown with me over time. People ask me all the with me over time. People ask me all the with me over time. People ask me all the time, like, "What's the one thing you've time, like, "What's the one thing you've time, like, "What's the one thing you've learned from the podcast?" One of the learned from the podcast?" One of the learned from the podcast?" One of the answers that I've never given that I'm answers that I've never given that I'm answers that I've never given that I'm going to give now is that I've learned going to give now is that I've learned going to give now is that I've learned that there's no such thing in life as a that there's no such thing in life as a that there's no such thing in life as a free lunch. No, free lunch. No, free lunch. No, >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> absolutely not. And what I mean by that >> absolutely not. And what I mean by that >> absolutely not. And what I mean by that is like everything is a trade-off. And is like everything is a trade-off. And is like everything is a trade-off. And if you ever hear on a podcast or in any if you ever hear on a podcast or in any if you ever hear on a podcast or in any medium that something has tremendous medium that something has tremendous medium that something has tremendous upsides, the first question one should upsides, the first question one should upsides, the first question one should ask is what's the trade? And like just ask is what's the trade? And like just ask is what's the trade? And like just with everything, you can apply this to with everything, you can apply this to with everything, you can apply this to having a relationship with a partner. having a relationship with a partner. having a relationship with a partner. Huge upsides. Also, trade-off. Huge upsides. Also, trade-off. Huge upsides. Also, trade-off. Trade-off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids, like Trade-off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids, like Trade-off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kids, like I love my children. I haven't slept in I love my children. I haven't slept in I love my children. I haven't slept in years, right? years, right? years, right? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You know, like this is just this is this >> You know, like this is just this is this >> You know, like this is just this is this is life, right? There are trade-offs. is life, right? There are trade-offs. is life, right? There are trade-offs. And even with great tools, there are And even with great tools, there are And even with great tools, there are trade-offs. trade-offs. trade-offs. >> So, what are the trade-offs of these >> So, what are the trade-offs of these >> So, what are the trade-offs of these peptides? The biggest trade-off right peptides? The biggest trade-off right peptides? The biggest trade-off right now is you don't know if you're even now is you don't know if you're even now is you don't know if you're even getting what you're what you want, getting what you're what you want, getting what you're what you want, right? Because you're ordering this from right? Because you're ordering this from right? Because you're ordering this from some research, you know, compound only. some research, you know, compound only. some research, you know, compound only. You don't know whether or not they've You don't know whether or not they've You don't know whether or not they've gotten out all the appropriate gotten out all the appropriate gotten out all the appropriate endotoxins. You don't know if you're endotoxins. You don't know if you're endotoxins. You don't know if you're getting what you actually paid for. So, getting what you actually paid for. So, getting what you actually paid for. So, that's the biggest thing. And also, the that's the biggest thing. And also, the that's the biggest thing. And also, the thing is is that, well, all right, I thing is is that, well, all right, I thing is is that, well, all right, I these have a good example of, okay, these have a good example of, okay, these have a good example of, okay, preventing or helping heal injury. But, preventing or helping heal injury. But, preventing or helping heal injury. But, the thing is that, well, we've got other the thing is that, well, we've got other the thing is that, well, we've got other compounds over here, you know, let's go compounds over here, you know, let's go compounds over here, you know, let's go ahead and like let's just pull ahead and like let's just pull ahead and like let's just pull tesamorelin as an example. So, this is tesamorelin as an example. So, this is tesamorelin as an example. So, this is actually interesting. It's a peptide actually interesting. It's a peptide actually interesting. It's a peptide that is commercially available right that is commercially available right that is commercially available right now. I could write the script for you. now. I could write the script for you. now. I could write the script for you. You could go pick it up from CVS or You could go pick it up from CVS or You could go pick it up from CVS or Walgreens, okay? This is available as a Walgreens, okay? This is available as a Walgreens, okay? This is available as a commercial product. And people really commercial product. And people really commercial product. And people really like it because it'll help boost growth like it because it'll help boost growth like it because it'll help boost growth hormone, and it happens to be uniquely hormone, and it happens to be uniquely hormone, and it happens to be uniquely good at stripping abdominal fat, okay? good at stripping abdominal fat, okay? good at stripping abdominal fat, okay? Or visceral fat. But, the thing is is Or visceral fat. But, the thing is is Or visceral fat. But, the thing is is that, you know, the moment you stop that, you know, the moment you stop that, you know, the moment you stop taking it for a brief period of time, taking it for a brief period of time, taking it for a brief period of time, well, if you haven't changed anything well, if you haven't changed anything well, if you haven't changed anything about your lifestyle, you're going to go about your lifestyle, you're going to go about your lifestyle, you're going to go right back to where you were. right back to where you were. right back to where you were. >> It's good at stripping abdominal fat, >> It's good at stripping abdominal fat, >> It's good at stripping abdominal fat, belly The belly fat. This is what it's belly The belly fat. This is what it's belly The belly fat. This is what it's known for. Yeah. It's good at stripping known for. Yeah. It's good at stripping known for. Yeah. It's good at stripping belly fat. belly fat. belly fat. >> Stripping belly fat specifically. So, >> Stripping belly fat specifically. So, >> Stripping belly fat specifically. So, bodybuilders actually really like it for bodybuilders actually really like it for bodybuilders actually really like it for that particular application. that particular application. that particular application. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> I had no idea there was a a peptide for >> I had no idea there was a a peptide for >> I had no idea there was a a peptide for stripping belly fat. There you go, man. stripping belly fat. There you go, man. stripping belly fat. There you go, man. You know, and like for example here, You know, and like for example here, You know, and like for example here, we've got another one. So, this is we've got another one. So, this is we've got another one. So, this is melanotan II, right? So, this is a melanotan II, right? So, this is a melanotan II, right? So, this is a melanocortin receptor agonist. So, melanocortin receptor agonist. So, melanocortin receptor agonist. So, melanocortin's this what makes you tan, melanocortin's this what makes you tan, melanocortin's this what makes you tan, right? So, you could administer this, right? So, you could administer this, right? So, you could administer this, all right? And it will actually end up all right? And it will actually end up all right? And it will actually end up giving you a deep tan in response to giving you a deep tan in response to giving you a deep tan in response to just a little bit of UV sun exposure, just a little bit of UV sun exposure, just a little bit of UV sun exposure, all right? Now, I know, right? Um all right? Now, I know, right? Um all right? Now, I know, right? Um listen, I've embraced my pasty listen, I've embraced my pasty listen, I've embraced my pasty whiteness, so I'm not, you know, I'm not whiteness, so I'm not, you know, I'm not whiteness, so I'm not, you know, I'm not necessarily my my bag, but it it's real. necessarily my my bag, but it it's real. necessarily my my bag, but it it's real. Now, again, there are some safety Now, again, there are some safety Now, again, there are some safety concerns with this because again, could concerns with this because again, could concerns with this because again, could that potentially stimulate a melanoma or that potentially stimulate a melanoma or that potentially stimulate a melanoma or something like that? But, this is something like that? But, this is something like that? But, this is something again, it's a peptide that something again, it's a peptide that something again, it's a peptide that gives a wildly different result than gives a wildly different result than gives a wildly different result than tesamorelin, right? Because it's a tesamorelin, right? Because it's a tesamorelin, right? Because it's a different application. different application. different application. >> It does. Yeah, it does. It'll also give >> It does. Yeah, it does. It'll also give >> It does. Yeah, it does. It'll also give you um you um you um some of the most impressive erections some of the most impressive erections some of the most impressive erections you've ever had in your life, so uh be you've ever had in your life, so uh be you've ever had in your life, so uh be warned. Um warned. Um warned. Um >> Wait, it's literally turning you into A >> Wait, it's literally turning you into A >> Wait, it's literally turning you into A BLACK GUY. BLACK GUY. BLACK GUY. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> FINALLY. YEAH, RIGHT? AND IT'S WILD. SO, >> FINALLY. YEAH, RIGHT? AND IT'S WILD. SO, >> FINALLY. YEAH, RIGHT? AND IT'S WILD. SO, there's actually and there's even a there's actually and there's even a there's actually and there's even a derivative of melanotan II called PT-141 derivative of melanotan II called PT-141 derivative of melanotan II called PT-141 uh bremelanotide that is a commercial uh bremelanotide that is a commercial uh bremelanotide that is a commercial product right now that you can write as product right now that you can write as product right now that you can write as a prescription, okay? But it that a prescription, okay? But it that a prescription, okay? But it that doesn't have the tanning benefit, but doesn't have the tanning benefit, but doesn't have the tanning benefit, but has the sexual, you know, benefits. has the sexual, you know, benefits. has the sexual, you know, benefits. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. Keep those ones over here. We have to Keep those ones over here. We have to Keep those ones over here. We have to talk about this. Another really talk about this. Another really talk about this. Another really interesting thing that phenomenon that interesting thing that phenomenon that interesting thing that phenomenon that we've seen, right? Is that now we've got we've seen, right? Is that now we've got we've seen, right? Is that now we've got all of these companies that are making all of these companies that are making all of these companies that are making these research use only compounds, these research use only compounds, these research use only compounds, right? It used to be that you would have right? It used to be that you would have right? It used to be that you would have a compound that's in drug development a compound that's in drug development a compound that's in drug development and you're seeing all the advertisements and you're seeing all the advertisements and you're seeing all the advertisements for it, you know, maybe if you follow for it, you know, maybe if you follow for it, you know, maybe if you follow these sorts of things like I do cuz I'm these sorts of things like I do cuz I'm these sorts of things like I do cuz I'm a nerd, right? You get excited about it, a nerd, right? You get excited about it, a nerd, right? You get excited about it, but you don't get access to it, right? but you don't get access to it, right? but you don't get access to it, right? Well, believe it or not, the next Well, believe it or not, the next Well, believe it or not, the next blockbuster drug that Lilly is going to blockbuster drug that Lilly is going to blockbuster drug that Lilly is going to come out with probably in the next come out with probably in the next come out with probably in the next couple of months is this guy called couple of months is this guy called couple of months is this guy called retatrutide, all right? And retatrutide retatrutide, all right? And retatrutide retatrutide, all right? And retatrutide is fantastic in that it is the first is fantastic in that it is the first is fantastic in that it is the first three receptor agonist GLP-1 drug. So, three receptor agonist GLP-1 drug. So, three receptor agonist GLP-1 drug. So, the GLP-1 drugs, okay? Whenever you're the GLP-1 drugs, okay? Whenever you're the GLP-1 drugs, okay? Whenever you're talking about semaglutide and talking about semaglutide and talking about semaglutide and tirzepatide, they have slightly tirzepatide, they have slightly tirzepatide, they have slightly different profiles. different profiles. different profiles. >> This is the Ozempic category. Correct, >> This is the Ozempic category. Correct, >> This is the Ozempic category. Correct, right? So, GLP-1 is the primary receptor right? So, GLP-1 is the primary receptor right? So, GLP-1 is the primary receptor that they work on and what that will do that they work on and what that will do that they work on and what that will do is it slows gastric emptying and it is it slows gastric emptying and it is it slows gastric emptying and it limits caloric intake, all right? But limits caloric intake, all right? But limits caloric intake, all right? But then in tirzepatide, not semaglutide, then in tirzepatide, not semaglutide, then in tirzepatide, not semaglutide, but tirzepatide is a dual agonist. So, but tirzepatide is a dual agonist. So, but tirzepatide is a dual agonist. So, it has effect on GIP, which is a it has effect on GIP, which is a it has effect on GIP, which is a different receptor. Well, retatrutide different receptor. Well, retatrutide different receptor. Well, retatrutide adds in glucagon receptor activation. adds in glucagon receptor activation. adds in glucagon receptor activation. And so, believe it or not, your liver And so, believe it or not, your liver And so, believe it or not, your liver actually acts like a repository of actually acts like a repository of actually acts like a repository of energy where it stores glycogen and fat energy where it stores glycogen and fat energy where it stores glycogen and fat that your body can use as energy. But that your body can use as energy. But that your body can use as energy. But that's a problem, right? If you get too that's a problem, right? If you get too that's a problem, right? If you get too much fat there, if you have a caloric much fat there, if you have a caloric much fat there, if you have a caloric excess, then you can end up having excess, then you can end up having excess, then you can end up having what's called NASH cirrhosis, but what's called NASH cirrhosis, but what's called NASH cirrhosis, but non-alcoholic steatohepatitis. non-alcoholic steatohepatitis. non-alcoholic steatohepatitis. Basically, inflammation of your liver Basically, inflammation of your liver Basically, inflammation of your liver due to accumulating too much fat. It's a due to accumulating too much fat. It's a due to accumulating too much fat. It's a problem. But by stimulating the glucagon problem. But by stimulating the glucagon problem. But by stimulating the glucagon receptor while simultaneously hitting receptor while simultaneously hitting receptor while simultaneously hitting GLP-1 and GIP, what we found is not only GLP-1 and GIP, what we found is not only GLP-1 and GIP, what we found is not only do patients lose an incredible amount of do patients lose an incredible amount of do patients lose an incredible amount of weight, but they also get the best weight, but they also get the best weight, but they also get the best improvements we've ever seen in their improvements we've ever seen in their improvements we've ever seen in their liver liver health that we've ever seen. liver liver health that we've ever seen. liver liver health that we've ever seen. And people have been buying that from And people have been buying that from And people have been buying that from research use only websites and using it research use only websites and using it research use only websites and using it for about 2 years now. And bodybuilders for about 2 years now. And bodybuilders for about 2 years now. And bodybuilders have already made this the standard in have already made this the standard in have already made this the standard in their protocol when it comes to cutting their protocol when it comes to cutting their protocol when it comes to cutting for a show. And it is wildly effective. for a show. And it is wildly effective. for a show. And it is wildly effective. And we're now seeing the population And we're now seeing the population And we're now seeing the population using a drug at scale that hasn't even using a drug at scale that hasn't even using a drug at scale that hasn't even made it through made it through made it through commercialization yet. What are you commercialization yet. What are you commercialization yet. What are you smoking? You using it? No. smoking? You using it? No. smoking? You using it? No. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I have not I can honestly say I have not >> I have not I can honestly say I have not >> I have not I can honestly say I have not used Retta. But I find it fascinating used Retta. But I find it fascinating used Retta. But I find it fascinating though. It's absolutely wild. Yeah, and though. It's absolutely wild. Yeah, and though. It's absolutely wild. Yeah, and talk about power to the people, right? talk about power to the people, right? talk about power to the people, right? What about these others then? What else What about these others then? What else What about these others then? What else have we got here that you think's have we got here that you think's have we got here that you think's interesting? interesting? interesting? >> So, um we've got these two here that I >> So, um we've got these two here that I >> So, um we've got these two here that I think are really interesting. So, think are really interesting. So, think are really interesting. So, CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin. So, the whole CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin. So, the whole CJC-1295 and Ipamorelin. So, the whole idea is that, you know, can we stimulate idea is that, you know, can we stimulate idea is that, you know, can we stimulate growth hormone? And there's an growth hormone? And there's an growth hormone? And there's an interesting story behind that. You know, interesting story behind that. You know, interesting story behind that. You know, actually growth hormone itself was very actually growth hormone itself was very actually growth hormone itself was very very popular for many many years as an very popular for many many years as an very popular for many many years as an anti-aging compound, but then we changed anti-aging compound, but then we changed anti-aging compound, but then we changed some laws here in the 19 in 1990, okay? some laws here in the 19 in 1990, okay? some laws here in the 19 in 1990, okay? That made it a little dicey to prescribe That made it a little dicey to prescribe That made it a little dicey to prescribe growth hormone. And also, you know, it's growth hormone. And also, you know, it's growth hormone. And also, you know, it's kind of a blunt instrument. We wanted kind of a blunt instrument. We wanted kind of a blunt instrument. We wanted something to stimulate more natural something to stimulate more natural something to stimulate more natural growth hormone release. So, we have this growth hormone release. So, we have this growth hormone release. So, we have this entire class of medications called entire class of medications called entire class of medications called secretagogues that help stimulate secretagogues that help stimulate secretagogues that help stimulate natural growth hormone release. And natural growth hormone release. And natural growth hormone release. And these are two of the most potent ones these are two of the most potent ones these are two of the most potent ones that are often combined together. And that are often combined together. And that are often combined together. And when we say growth hormone Yes. what when we say growth hormone Yes. what when we say growth hormone Yes. what does growth hormone do? So, growth does growth hormone do? So, growth does growth hormone do? So, growth hormone acts like a signal that tells hormone acts like a signal that tells hormone acts like a signal that tells your liver to make more of another your liver to make more of another your liver to make more of another compound we talked about, IGF-1. What compound we talked about, IGF-1. What compound we talked about, IGF-1. What growth hormone does is growth hormone growth hormone does is growth hormone growth hormone does is growth hormone actually stimulates building muscle, actually stimulates building muscle, actually stimulates building muscle, okay? It also strips okay? It also strips okay? It also strips fat, okay? And it's also been found to fat, okay? And it's also been found to fat, okay? And it's also been found to help with tissue healing. Okay. And so, help with tissue healing. Okay. And so, help with tissue healing. Okay. And so, there's a significant benefit in that there's a significant benefit in that there's a significant benefit in that regard. And so, people want to boost regard. And so, people want to boost regard. And so, people want to boost their growth hormone. Improves quality their growth hormone. Improves quality their growth hormone. Improves quality of skin, improves quality of hair and of skin, improves quality of hair and of skin, improves quality of hair and nails and that sort of thing. And so, nails and that sort of thing. And so, nails and that sort of thing. And so, these two compounds together are these two compounds together are these two compounds together are particularly potent. CJC-1295 particularly potent. CJC-1295 particularly potent. CJC-1295 being a growth hormone-releasing hormone being a growth hormone-releasing hormone being a growth hormone-releasing hormone derivative. And then we have Ipamorelin, derivative. And then we have Ipamorelin, derivative. And then we have Ipamorelin, which is a ghrelin receptor agonist. So which is a ghrelin receptor agonist. So which is a ghrelin receptor agonist. So again, release improving the release of again, release improving the release of again, release improving the release of growth hormone through two different growth hormone through two different growth hormone through two different synergistic mechanisms. And so, that one synergistic mechanisms. And so, that one synergistic mechanisms. And so, that one is really really interesting, or these is really really interesting, or these is really really interesting, or these two together. And then, on top of that, two together. And then, on top of that, two together. And then, on top of that, so this one, somatotropin, another word so this one, somatotropin, another word so this one, somatotropin, another word for growth hormone. Okay, so this is for growth hormone. Okay, so this is for growth hormone. Okay, so this is growth hormone, okay? Just a different growth hormone, okay? Just a different growth hormone, okay? Just a different word for it. So, what would happen? word for it. So, what would happen? word for it. So, what would happen? Let's just take this one. Sure. Let's just take this one. Sure. Let's just take this one. Sure. Somatotropin. Yeah. Somatotropin. Yeah. Somatotropin. Yeah. Somatotropin. Yeah. Somatotropin. Yeah. Somatotropin. Yeah. If I bought this for research purposes, If I bought this for research purposes, If I bought this for research purposes, Research purposes only. and I started Research purposes only. and I started Research purposes only. and I started injecting some of this into me, what injecting some of this into me, what injecting some of this into me, what would change? So, it depends on how much would change? So, it depends on how much would change? So, it depends on how much you do and when you do it. So, the idea you do and when you do it. So, the idea you do and when you do it. So, the idea is that if you injected that at night, is that if you injected that at night, is that if you injected that at night, it would improve your quality of sleep, it would improve your quality of sleep, it would improve your quality of sleep, okay? You would get a boost in your okay? You would get a boost in your okay? You would get a boost in your quality of your hair, your skin, nails. quality of your hair, your skin, nails. quality of your hair, your skin, nails. Theoretically, it'd be easier for you to Theoretically, it'd be easier for you to Theoretically, it'd be easier for you to recover from injuries, hopefully put on recover from injuries, hopefully put on recover from injuries, hopefully put on a little bit more muscle a little bit a little bit more muscle a little bit a little bit more muscle a little bit easier, maybe lose a little bit of fat. easier, maybe lose a little bit of fat. easier, maybe lose a little bit of fat. So, why don't I take it? Well, because So, why don't I take it? Well, because So, why don't I take it? Well, because if you take a little bit too much, you if you take a little bit too much, you if you take a little bit too much, you can actually get insulin resistance can actually get insulin resistance can actually get insulin resistance because your glucose levels will go too because your glucose levels will go too because your glucose levels will go too high for too long, all right? You abuse high for too long, all right? You abuse high for too long, all right? You abuse too much for too long, you will actually too much for too long, you will actually too much for too long, you will actually get acromegaly, so that's development of get acromegaly, so that's development of get acromegaly, so that's development of the your bones continue to grow, but not the your bones continue to grow, but not the your bones continue to grow, but not alongs, only in certain junctures. And alongs, only in certain junctures. And alongs, only in certain junctures. And so, there's a very specific look that so, there's a very specific look that so, there's a very specific look that bodybuilders who abuse growth hormone at bodybuilders who abuse growth hormone at bodybuilders who abuse growth hormone at high amounts will get to them, all high amounts will get to them, all high amounts will get to them, all right? Which is an irreversible change right? Which is an irreversible change right? Which is an irreversible change to the facial bone structure. You can to the facial bone structure. You can to the facial bone structure. You can also, theoretically, if you had a also, theoretically, if you had a also, theoretically, if you had a cancer, maybe it could make it worse, cancer, maybe it could make it worse, cancer, maybe it could make it worse, all right? We've never shown it that it all right? We've never shown it that it all right? We've never shown it that it causes new cancers, but that could be a causes new cancers, but that could be a causes new cancers, but that could be a concern. And, you know, on top of that, concern. And, you know, on top of that, concern. And, you know, on top of that, it could give you insulin resistance it could give you insulin resistance it could give you insulin resistance because, Okay. you know, you're again, because, Okay. you know, you're again, because, Okay. you know, you're again, Yeah, exactly, right? Um, and if you Yeah, exactly, right? Um, and if you Yeah, exactly, right? Um, and if you take too much, it could potentially make take too much, it could potentially make take too much, it could potentially make your hands numb in the morning because your hands numb in the morning because your hands numb in the morning because you get effusions into the joint space. you get effusions into the joint space. you get effusions into the joint space. And so, bodybuilders will talk about And so, bodybuilders will talk about And so, bodybuilders will talk about lifting a dumbbell and having to drop it lifting a dumbbell and having to drop it lifting a dumbbell and having to drop it because their hand goes numb temporarily because their hand goes numb temporarily because their hand goes numb temporarily if they're taking too much growth if they're taking too much growth if they're taking too much growth hormone too soon. hormone too soon. hormone too soon. And what else have we got here? Oh my And what else have we got here? Oh my And what else have we got here? Oh my gosh. So, epithalon, so this is gosh. So, epithalon, so this is gosh. So, epithalon, so this is the the the medication that is theoretically going medication that is theoretically going medication that is theoretically going to be available to us in July, okay? And to be available to us in July, okay? And to be available to us in July, okay? And so, uh the hope is that, you know, this so, uh the hope is that, you know, this so, uh the hope is that, you know, this is going to uh expand cell life. So, is going to uh expand cell life. So, is going to uh expand cell life. So, epithalon, the uh purpose of it is it epithalon, the uh purpose of it is it epithalon, the uh purpose of it is it works to enhance uh telomerase. So, at works to enhance uh telomerase. So, at works to enhance uh telomerase. So, at the end of your cells, imagine it this the end of your cells, imagine it this the end of your cells, imagine it this way, you're trying to copy the genome, way, you're trying to copy the genome, way, you're trying to copy the genome, but the little copier that uh copies it, but the little copier that uh copies it, but the little copier that uh copies it, it takes up space enough itself, so it's it takes up space enough itself, so it's it takes up space enough itself, so it's kind of like it cuts off the last couple kind of like it cuts off the last couple kind of like it cuts off the last couple letters every single time. This is when letters every single time. This is when letters every single time. This is when you're aging, right? When you're aging. you're aging, right? When you're aging. you're aging, right? When you're aging. You're creating new cells, right? Cells You're creating new cells, right? Cells You're creating new cells, right? Cells divide through this process called divide through this process called divide through this process called mitosis, where they split, all right? mitosis, where they split, all right? mitosis, where they split, all right? Well, if you got to make an exact copy, Well, if you got to make an exact copy, Well, if you got to make an exact copy, well, you've got to read through all well, you've got to read through all well, you've got to read through all these lines of code, but because of the these lines of code, but because of the these lines of code, but because of the way that we're built, we always end up way that we're built, we always end up way that we're built, we always end up cutting off the last little bit of code. cutting off the last little bit of code. cutting off the last little bit of code. Which is what how we age. Which is how Which is what how we age. Which is how Which is what how we age. Which is how we age. It is one of the things that we age. It is one of the things that we age. It is one of the things that contributes to aging, all right? Now, contributes to aging, all right? Now, contributes to aging, all right? Now, that is considered to be {quote} that is considered to be {quote} that is considered to be {quote} {unquote} junk information. It's at the {unquote} junk information. It's at the {unquote} junk information. It's at the very end called the telomere, all right? very end called the telomere, all right? very end called the telomere, all right? But, we know that shorter telomeres are But, we know that shorter telomeres are But, we know that shorter telomeres are associated with aging, potentially worse associated with aging, potentially worse associated with aging, potentially worse health outcomes. Then, there's an enzyme health outcomes. Then, there's an enzyme health outcomes. Then, there's an enzyme that can help heal or repair the that can help heal or repair the that can help heal or repair the telomere called telomerase. Epithalon telomere called telomerase. Epithalon telomere called telomerase. Epithalon helps encourage that. And so, some helps encourage that. And so, some helps encourage that. And so, some people are looking at that as being one people are looking at that as being one people are looking at that as being one of the fountain of youth uh compounds. of the fountain of youth uh compounds. of the fountain of youth uh compounds. I'm very skeptical as far as that goes, I'm very skeptical as far as that goes, I'm very skeptical as far as that goes, but it does show some benefits when it but it does show some benefits when it but it does show some benefits when it comes to uh you know, healing parts of comes to uh you know, healing parts of comes to uh you know, healing parts of your brain that are, you know, your brain that are, you know, your brain that are, you know, associated with uh regulating your associated with uh regulating your associated with uh regulating your circadian rhythm. So, the average person listening now, So, the average person listening now, they've heard a lot of stuff about a lot they've heard a lot of stuff about a lot they've heard a lot of stuff about a lot of things. of things. of things. How do they know if they should pursue How do they know if they should pursue How do they know if they should pursue getting and taking peptides? Like, how getting and taking peptides? Like, how getting and taking peptides? Like, how do they know? What are they looking for? do they know? What are they looking for? do they know? What are they looking for? So, what I will say is that think of So, what I will say is that think of So, what I will say is that think of peptides as falling into three peptides as falling into three peptides as falling into three categories, all right? You got category categories, all right? You got category categories, all right? You got category one, which are peptides that you can one, which are peptides that you can one, which are peptides that you can prescribe right now, legal from, you prescribe right now, legal from, you prescribe right now, legal from, you know, a commercial pharmacy. That know, a commercial pharmacy. That know, a commercial pharmacy. That includes the GLP-1s, PT-141, uh includes the GLP-1s, PT-141, uh includes the GLP-1s, PT-141, uh bremelanotide I mentioned to you bremelanotide I mentioned to you bremelanotide I mentioned to you earlier, oxytocin is another one. We earlier, oxytocin is another one. We earlier, oxytocin is another one. We have these different compounds that are have these different compounds that are have these different compounds that are available. And then we have what we call available. And then we have what we call available. And then we have what we call category two, which we don't have category two, which we don't have category two, which we don't have anything in right now, but that will anything in right now, but that will anything in right now, but that will consist of the seven peptides that are consist of the seven peptides that are consist of the seven peptides that are hopefully going to be approved in July hopefully going to be approved in July hopefully going to be approved in July whenever they get moved from category whenever they get moved from category whenever they get moved from category two cannot compound to category one can two cannot compound to category one can two cannot compound to category one can compound. All right? And then everything compound. All right? And then everything compound. All right? And then everything else is kind of in this category three else is kind of in this category three else is kind of in this category three where it's only available for research where it's only available for research where it's only available for research use only. And so my recommendation for use only. And so my recommendation for use only. And so my recommendation for patients is don't go out and buy patients is don't go out and buy patients is don't go out and buy research use only compounds. All right? research use only compounds. All right? research use only compounds. All right? You don't know what you're getting and You don't know what you're getting and You don't know what you're getting and you don't know if you're dosing it you don't know if you're dosing it you don't know if you're dosing it right, you don't know if it's right, you don't know if it's right, you don't know if it's contaminated. So really what the public contaminated. So really what the public contaminated. So really what the public should be doing is educating themselves should be doing is educating themselves should be doing is educating themselves on this and then going and talking to on this and then going and talking to on this and then going and talking to their doctors about what problems they their doctors about what problems they their doctors about what problems they have and then potentially when those have and then potentially when those have and then potentially when those options become available a peptide might options become available a peptide might options become available a peptide might be part of the answer for their problem. be part of the answer for their problem. be part of the answer for their problem. Okay, so speak to doctor. Yeah. Consult Okay, so speak to doctor. Yeah. Consult Okay, so speak to doctor. Yeah. Consult with your doctor. And make it a convers- with your doctor. And make it a convers- with your doctor. And make it a convers- conversation with whoever your medical conversation with whoever your medical conversation with whoever your medical professional is about your symptoms and professional is about your symptoms and professional is about your symptoms and what might be useful and what the range, what might be useful and what the range, what might be useful and what the range, the toolbox, the options are Correct. To the toolbox, the options are Correct. To the toolbox, the options are Correct. To attack those symptoms. Yes. Absolutely. attack those symptoms. Yes. Absolutely. attack those symptoms. Yes. Absolutely. Talk Talk Talk collaborate with your doctor. Your collaborate with your doctor. Your collaborate with your doctor. Your doctor should be your partner in you doctor should be your partner in you doctor should be your partner in you getting as healthy as humanly possible. getting as healthy as humanly possible. getting as healthy as humanly possible. We talked about um trizepatide, Ozempic, We talked about um trizepatide, Ozempic, We talked about um trizepatide, Ozempic, semaglutide. One of the questions that's semaglutide. One of the questions that's semaglutide. One of the questions that's front of mind for everybody front of mind for everybody front of mind for everybody whether they're taking them or watching whether they're taking them or watching whether they're taking them or watching others take them is what happens when others take them is what happens when others take them is what happens when you stop. We've looked at that. You you stop. We've looked at that. You you stop. We've looked at that. You actually regain the weight. And so cuz actually regain the weight. And so cuz actually regain the weight. And so cuz the truth is is that you have introduced the truth is is that you have introduced the truth is is that you have introduced something into your life that has moved something into your life that has moved something into your life that has moved the needle in one direction. But if you the needle in one direction. But if you the needle in one direction. But if you don't change anything else, well, you don't change anything else, well, you don't change anything else, well, you take that back out. Well, you're going take that back out. Well, you're going take that back out. Well, you're going to go back to where you were. And so if to go back to where you were. And so if to go back to where you were. And so if you're going to maintain that weight you're going to maintain that weight you're going to maintain that weight loss, you have to make lifestyle changes loss, you have to make lifestyle changes loss, you have to make lifestyle changes associated with that. And what we found associated with that. And what we found associated with that. And what we found is that people do regain if they do make is that people do regain if they do make is that people do regain if they do make lifestyle changes, they do regain some lifestyle changes, they do regain some lifestyle changes, they do regain some of the weight but not necessarily all of of the weight but not necessarily all of of the weight but not necessarily all of the weight. And there's also data the weight. And there's also data the weight. And there's also data showing that you could potentially stay showing that you could potentially stay showing that you could potentially stay on that medication but at a much lower on that medication but at a much lower on that medication but at a much lower dose and then maintain your weight, dose and then maintain your weight, dose and then maintain your weight, okay? So there are options to minimize okay? So there are options to minimize okay? So there are options to minimize your medication burden long term. And of your medication burden long term. And of your medication burden long term. And of all the things we've talked about today, all the things we've talked about today, all the things we've talked about today, if you had to just pick one thing that if you had to just pick one thing that if you had to just pick one thing that excites you the most that's either excites you the most that's either excites you the most that's either coming down the pipe or here already, coming down the pipe or here already, coming down the pipe or here already, Yeah. what is the thing you're most Yeah. what is the thing you're most Yeah. what is the thing you're most excited about? I I your eyes wondering. excited about? I I your eyes wondering. excited about? I I your eyes wondering. >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh hands down it's that one over there, hands down it's that one over there, hands down it's that one over there, retatrutide. Because the retatrutide. Because the retatrutide. Because the changes in body composition that we have changes in body composition that we have changes in body composition that we have seen both in clinical trials, okay, and seen both in clinical trials, okay, and seen both in clinical trials, okay, and in anecdotal reports from users who have in anecdotal reports from users who have in anecdotal reports from users who have obtained on their own are wild. We're obtained on their own are wild. We're obtained on their own are wild. We're talking losing 20 to 25% of total body talking losing 20 to 25% of total body talking losing 20 to 25% of total body weight within a relatively short period weight within a relatively short period weight within a relatively short period of time. And I think that this is going of time. And I think that this is going of time. And I think that this is going to be basically the Ferrari of GLP-1 to be basically the Ferrari of GLP-1 to be basically the Ferrari of GLP-1 medications when it comes out. It's not medications when it comes out. It's not medications when it comes out. It's not for everybody, right? It's going to go for everybody, right? It's going to go for everybody, right? It's going to go faster than everything else, but it's faster than everything else, but it's faster than everything else, but it's going to change the game. I think this going to change the game. I think this going to change the game. I think this is going to be a trillion-dollar drug is going to be a trillion-dollar drug is going to be a trillion-dollar drug when it comes out. And no one's going to when it comes out. And no one's going to when it comes out. And no one's going to own the patent, so everybody will be own the patent, so everybody will be own the patent, so everybody will be able to access it. Is that right? No, able to access it. Is that right? No, able to access it. Is that right? No, no, that is going to belong solely to no, that is going to belong solely to no, that is going to belong solely to Lilly. And so you are going to see and Lilly. And so you are going to see and Lilly. And so you are going to see and they are going to enforce it, you know, they are going to enforce it, you know, they are going to enforce it, you know, uh, as aggressively as they've ever uh, as aggressively as they've ever uh, as aggressively as they've ever enforced anything. But you will see enforced anything. But you will see enforced anything. But you will see profound results in patients. profound results in patients. profound results in patients. People are referring to peptides as People are referring to peptides as People are referring to peptides as Silicon Valley's miracle drug. Silicon Valley's miracle drug. Silicon Valley's miracle drug. And I I wondered why that was, why it's And I I wondered why that was, why it's And I I wondered why that was, why it's been associated with Silicon Valley. been associated with Silicon Valley. been associated with Silicon Valley. Have you heard that at all? I have and Have you heard that at all? I have and Have you heard that at all? I have and I'll tell you I've seen some, uh, I'll tell you I've seen some, uh, I'll tell you I've seen some, uh, peptide stacks from, you know, Silicon peptide stacks from, you know, Silicon peptide stacks from, you know, Silicon Valley, you know, uh, founders and, uh, Valley, you know, uh, founders and, uh, Valley, you know, uh, founders and, uh, you know, uh, individuals that blow my you know, uh, individuals that blow my you know, uh, individuals that blow my mind. I'm like, oh man, even I think mind. I'm like, oh man, even I think mind. I'm like, oh man, even I think that's a lot. Why would peo- people in that's a lot. Why would peo- people in that's a lot. Why would peo- people in Silicon Valley, why would founders be Silicon Valley, why would founders be Silicon Valley, why would founders be interested in peptides? Well, I think interested in peptides? Well, I think interested in peptides? Well, I think it's because we all want to live our, it's because we all want to live our, it's because we all want to live our, you know, best version of our own lives, you know, best version of our own lives, you know, best version of our own lives, right? We want to perform at the highest right? We want to perform at the highest right? We want to perform at the highest level. And so, you know, people will do level. And so, you know, people will do level. And so, you know, people will do whatever they can. They'll drink whatever they can. They'll drink whatever they can. They'll drink caffeine, you know, they'll, you know, caffeine, you know, they'll, you know, caffeine, you know, they'll, you know, pop a Zyn in their mouth, you know, and pop a Zyn in their mouth, you know, and pop a Zyn in their mouth, you know, and they'll try to tweak whatever variable they'll try to tweak whatever variable they'll try to tweak whatever variable they possibly can to get the best they possibly can to get the best they possibly can to get the best possible performance. And thing is is possible performance. And thing is is possible performance. And thing is is that anabolic steroids come with, you that anabolic steroids come with, you that anabolic steroids come with, you know, significant side effects. And know, significant side effects. And know, significant side effects. And that's not everybody's cup of tea, that's not everybody's cup of tea, that's not everybody's cup of tea, right? And the health consequences from right? And the health consequences from right? And the health consequences from high-dose androgens dwarf anything that high-dose androgens dwarf anything that high-dose androgens dwarf anything that you might experience with peptides. And you might experience with peptides. And you might experience with peptides. And so peptides offer a lot of flexibility so peptides offer a lot of flexibility so peptides offer a lot of flexibility in pulling many different levers that in pulling many different levers that in pulling many different levers that are interesting to like your regular are interesting to like your regular are interesting to like your regular average, you know, person. And honestly, average, you know, person. And honestly, average, you know, person. And honestly, you know, it requires a little bit of you know, it requires a little bit of you know, it requires a little bit of DIY right now because of the nature of DIY right now because of the nature of DIY right now because of the nature of these peptides. And, I think you combine these peptides. And, I think you combine these peptides. And, I think you combine that with the kind of rogue, you know, that with the kind of rogue, you know, that with the kind of rogue, you know, uh founder uh founder uh founder uh uh uh spirit that is common in Silicon Valley, spirit that is common in Silicon Valley, spirit that is common in Silicon Valley, and I think it's a perfect fit. I asked and I think it's a perfect fit. I asked and I think it's a perfect fit. I asked you a second ago, what are the three you a second ago, what are the three you a second ago, what are the three questions that people come to you and questions that people come to you and questions that people come to you and ask you as as a doctor? The first one as ask you as as a doctor? The first one as ask you as as a doctor? The first one as it related to peptides was, which it related to peptides was, which it related to peptides was, which peptide should I be taking? Yeah. Are peptide should I be taking? Yeah. Are peptide should I be taking? Yeah. Are there any other questions we haven't there any other questions we haven't there any other questions we haven't covered off that are commonplace in your covered off that are commonplace in your covered off that are commonplace in your practice? practice? practice? The second one is, you know, can you The second one is, you know, can you The second one is, you know, can you prescribe me? And then I have to explain prescribe me? And then I have to explain prescribe me? And then I have to explain to them the regulatory environment, you to them the regulatory environment, you to them the regulatory environment, you know, surrounding peptides that, you know, surrounding peptides that, you know, surrounding peptides that, you know, as of right now, the only peptides know, as of right now, the only peptides know, as of right now, the only peptides that I can prescribe are the ones you that I can prescribe are the ones you that I can prescribe are the ones you can get from CVS or Walgreens, which is can get from CVS or Walgreens, which is can get from CVS or Walgreens, which is going to be your GLP-1 medications and a going to be your GLP-1 medications and a going to be your GLP-1 medications and a handful of others that usually aren't handful of others that usually aren't handful of others that usually aren't applying to the young men that I see in applying to the young men that I see in applying to the young men that I see in my practice. my practice. my practice. 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Is there a super peptide for anti-aging Is there a super peptide for anti-aging Is there a super peptide for anti-aging in skin and some of those issues? Oh, in skin and some of those issues? Oh, in skin and some of those issues? Oh, for skin, GHK-Cu. GHK-Cu? Yeah. So this for skin, GHK-Cu. GHK-Cu? Yeah. So this for skin, GHK-Cu. GHK-Cu? Yeah. So this is, you know, is, you know, is, you know, probably the most well-known peptide for probably the most well-known peptide for probably the most well-known peptide for uh use for skin complexion, and I mean, uh use for skin complexion, and I mean, uh use for skin complexion, and I mean, really, it may have some small benefits really, it may have some small benefits really, it may have some small benefits when it comes to hair, all right? But when it comes to hair, all right? But when it comes to hair, all right? But the those reports are a little bit more the those reports are a little bit more the those reports are a little bit more spotty. Okay. Yeah. And then so outside spotty. Okay. Yeah. And then so outside spotty. Okay. Yeah. And then so outside of the world of peptides for a second. of the world of peptides for a second. of the world of peptides for a second. Yeah. I've got these three Yeah. I've got these three Yeah. I've got these three vials in my hand. I'm so scared. vials in my hand. I'm so scared. vials in my hand. I'm so scared. All right. Do you know what those are? Do you know what those are? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Uh this is unfortunately our future if Uh this is unfortunately our future if Uh this is unfortunately our future if we're not careful. we're not careful. we're not careful. Explain. So, you know, what we've got Explain. So, you know, what we've got Explain. So, you know, what we've got here is we have uh three different uh here is we have uh three different uh here is we have uh three different uh canisters containing water that has a a canisters containing water that has a a canisters containing water that has a a little bit of coloring in it. And what little bit of coloring in it. And what little bit of coloring in it. And what you can see is that all the way back in you can see is that all the way back in you can see is that all the way back in 1973, this is pretty opaque, all right? 1973, this is pretty opaque, all right? 1973, this is pretty opaque, all right? Like, you know, this is not uh what you Like, you know, this is not uh what you Like, you know, this is not uh what you would You can't see through it. And then would You can't see through it. And then would You can't see through it. And then 2026 has a little bit of color to it. 2026 has a little bit of color to it. 2026 has a little bit of color to it. And then we've got over here 2045, which And then we've got over here 2045, which And then we've got over here 2045, which is totally uh clear. Uh and this is totally uh clear. Uh and this is totally uh clear. Uh and this unfortunately is actually representing unfortunately is actually representing unfortunately is actually representing the fertility trajectory for young men, the fertility trajectory for young men, the fertility trajectory for young men, because what we're seeing is that back because what we're seeing is that back because what we're seeing is that back in 1973, total modal sperm count, so how in 1973, total modal sperm count, so how in 1973, total modal sperm count, so how many healthy swimming sperm do we have many healthy swimming sperm do we have many healthy swimming sperm do we have in each ejaculation, is in each ejaculation, is in each ejaculation, is exponentially higher and more dense than exponentially higher and more dense than exponentially higher and more dense than what we're seeing today. And so what what we're seeing today. And so what what we're seeing today. And so what we're seeing is a progressive decline in we're seeing is a progressive decline in we're seeing is a progressive decline in male fertility over time. And that's male fertility over time. And that's male fertility over time. And that's been demonstrated in multiple studies. been demonstrated in multiple studies. been demonstrated in multiple studies. We've debated this at multiple meetings. We've debated this at multiple meetings. We've debated this at multiple meetings. People have tried to argue that it's a People have tried to argue that it's a People have tried to argue that it's a measuring difference, but as we give it measuring difference, but as we give it measuring difference, but as we give it more time and as we give it more more time and as we give it more more time and as we give it more scrutiny, this is real. We're scrutiny, this is real. We're scrutiny, this is real. We're experiencing a significant decline in uh experiencing a significant decline in uh experiencing a significant decline in uh sperm quality and motility and sperm quality and motility and sperm quality and motility and concentration. concentration. concentration. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> Why? >> Why? >> Why? So, the leading culprits are going to So, the leading culprits are going to So, the leading culprits are going to be, yes, microplastics and environmental be, yes, microplastics and environmental be, yes, microplastics and environmental toxins. Okay, things that are put in our toxins. Okay, things that are put in our toxins. Okay, things that are put in our environment that we have been exposed to environment that we have been exposed to environment that we have been exposed to that we can't help. But again, the that we can't help. But again, the that we can't help. But again, the biggest modifiable risk factor is biggest modifiable risk factor is biggest modifiable risk factor is insulin resistance and metabolic insulin resistance and metabolic insulin resistance and metabolic disease. Obesity. disease. Obesity. disease. Obesity. >> Obesity. And so, a downstream effect >> Obesity. And so, a downstream effect >> Obesity. And so, a downstream effect that we may see from peptides like we that we may see from peptides like we that we may see from peptides like we discussed before is we may be able to discussed before is we may be able to discussed before is we may be able to help reverse this for the first time in help reverse this for the first time in help reverse this for the first time in history by trying to prevent the history by trying to prevent the history by trying to prevent the development of metabolic disease. Using development of metabolic disease. Using development of metabolic disease. Using some of the peptides we talked about some of the peptides we talked about some of the peptides we talked about earlier. Exactly. I gave you the example earlier. Exactly. I gave you the example earlier. Exactly. I gave you the example of a patient that I saw in clinic this of a patient that I saw in clinic this of a patient that I saw in clinic this past week that increased his sperm count past week that increased his sperm count past week that increased his sperm count 10 times over. Imagine if we had given 10 times over. Imagine if we had given 10 times over. Imagine if we had given that to him before he even got that that to him before he even got that that to him before he even got that obese, when he just started to get a obese, when he just started to get a obese, when he just started to get a little bit overweight and at a lower little bit overweight and at a lower little bit overweight and at a lower dose. Well, he may have never ended up dose. Well, he may have never ended up dose. Well, he may have never ended up in my office, right? Because his primary in my office, right? Because his primary in my office, right? Because his primary care doctor would have identified that, care doctor would have identified that, care doctor would have identified that, treated it, and he never would have treated it, and he never would have treated it, and he never would have needed the specialist. needed the specialist. needed the specialist. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. It's crazy. It's wild. It's crazy. It's wild. It's crazy. It's wild. So, So, So, ultimately, you know, if you look at ultimately, you know, if you look at ultimately, you know, if you look at what are the ills that are affecting what are the ills that are affecting what are the ills that are affecting healthcare in, you know, any first-world healthcare in, you know, any first-world healthcare in, you know, any first-world nation, the number one offender is nation, the number one offender is nation, the number one offender is metabolic disease and metabolic metabolic disease and metabolic metabolic disease and metabolic dysfunction. And this is something that dysfunction. And this is something that dysfunction. And this is something that was actually hinted at, you know, by, was actually hinted at, you know, by, was actually hinted at, you know, by, you know, RFK whenever he was talking you know, RFK whenever he was talking you know, RFK whenever he was talking about uh root cause of disease. Well, about uh root cause of disease. Well, about uh root cause of disease. Well, yes, we have many many diseases and many yes, we have many many diseases and many yes, we have many many diseases and many many infections that don't stem many infections that don't stem many infections that don't stem necessarily from insulin resistance, but necessarily from insulin resistance, but necessarily from insulin resistance, but if we look at cardiac disease, if we if we look at cardiac disease, if we if we look at cardiac disease, if we look at issues with lack of perfusion, look at issues with lack of perfusion, look at issues with lack of perfusion, my my specialty, erectile dysfunction, my my specialty, erectile dysfunction, my my specialty, erectile dysfunction, right? We look at cancer. All of this is right? We look at cancer. All of this is right? We look at cancer. All of this is related back to obesity and metabolic related back to obesity and metabolic related back to obesity and metabolic dysfunction. And so, if we can eliminate dysfunction. And so, if we can eliminate dysfunction. And so, if we can eliminate that, you know, as a society or we can that, you know, as a society or we can that, you know, as a society or we can minimize it to as little as possible, minimize it to as little as possible, minimize it to as little as possible, well, I mean, man, maybe I'd finally well, I mean, man, maybe I'd finally well, I mean, man, maybe I'd finally work myself out of a job. work myself out of a job. work myself out of a job. Your specialty is these erectile Your specialty is these erectile Your specialty is these erectile dysfunction. Yeah, so my specialty is dysfunction. Yeah, so my specialty is dysfunction. Yeah, so my specialty is this branch off of urology that we this branch off of urology that we this branch off of urology that we broadly call men's health, okay? And so, broadly call men's health, okay? And so, broadly call men's health, okay? And so, what that incorporates for us is going what that incorporates for us is going what that incorporates for us is going to be low testosterone, advanced hormone to be low testosterone, advanced hormone to be low testosterone, advanced hormone management. I take that a little bit management. I take that a little bit management. I take that a little bit further than most people. That's totally further than most people. That's totally further than most people. That's totally cool. And then also uh erectile cool. And then also uh erectile cool. And then also uh erectile dysfunction, Peyronie's disease, which dysfunction, Peyronie's disease, which dysfunction, Peyronie's disease, which is damage to the penis that causes is damage to the penis that causes is damage to the penis that causes curvature, and then curvature, and then curvature, and then uh male fertility on top of that. And I uh male fertility on top of that. And I uh male fertility on top of that. And I do a little other thing uh treating do a little other thing uh treating do a little other thing uh treating leakage after uh prostate cancer leakage after uh prostate cancer leakage after uh prostate cancer treatment. And that's basically it. like treatment. And that's basically it. like treatment. And that's basically it. like five things maybe, and you know, that's five things maybe, and you know, that's five things maybe, and you know, that's it. So, I'm very very specialized it. So, I'm very very specialized it. So, I'm very very specialized because I was the kid that, you know, because I was the kid that, you know, because I was the kid that, you know, like to take my sandwiches apart and eat like to take my sandwiches apart and eat like to take my sandwiches apart and eat it one at a time. I was very precise. it one at a time. I was very precise. it one at a time. I was very precise. And I figured, you know, you can do a And I figured, you know, you can do a And I figured, you know, you can do a lot of things in this world and be okay lot of things in this world and be okay lot of things in this world and be okay at them, or you can pick like, I don't at them, or you can pick like, I don't at them, or you can pick like, I don't know, four or five and get pretty good know, four or five and get pretty good know, four or five and get pretty good at them. So, that seemed to work for me. at them. So, that seemed to work for me. at them. So, that seemed to work for me. I was looking at a at a photo of you of I was looking at a at a photo of you of I was looking at a at a photo of you of you 5 years ago and you were very you 5 years ago and you were very you 5 years ago and you were very different. Yeah. different. Yeah. different. Yeah. You've changed a lot. So, You've changed a lot. So, You've changed a lot. So, I will I will tell you this. I will tell you this. Um medical training medical training >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> in the United States has gotten better. >> in the United States has gotten better. >> in the United States has gotten better. But it is grueling. But it is grueling. But it is grueling. It's absolutely grueling. It's absolutely grueling. It's absolutely grueling. For 5 years, For 5 years, For 5 years, I worked anywhere from 80 to 100 hours a I worked anywhere from 80 to 100 hours a I worked anywhere from 80 to 100 hours a week in a hospital. week in a hospital. week in a hospital. No eating, No eating, No eating, very little sleep. very little sleep. very little sleep. Did not care for yourself at all. Did not care for yourself at all. Did not care for yourself at all. Um and again, we can argue whether or Um and again, we can argue whether or Um and again, we can argue whether or not that's necessary all day long. not that's necessary all day long. not that's necessary all day long. But the truth is is that it really beat But the truth is is that it really beat But the truth is is that it really beat me down. me down. me down. It absolutely took me apart physically It absolutely took me apart physically It absolutely took me apart physically and psychologically. and psychologically. and psychologically. In part it's designed to do that cuz the In part it's designed to do that cuz the In part it's designed to do that cuz the idea is that as a surgeon you have to be idea is that as a surgeon you have to be idea is that as a surgeon you have to be able to perform when able to perform when able to perform when all the lights are on, when everything all the lights are on, when everything all the lights are on, when everything is against you, you have to be the one is against you, you have to be the one is against you, you have to be the one to hold it together in the operating to hold it together in the operating to hold it together in the operating room and command that ship and save that room and command that ship and save that room and command that ship and save that patient. patient. patient. And I remember being And I remember being And I remember being totally devastated towards the end of totally devastated towards the end of totally devastated towards the end of training. And I did a very challenging training. And I did a very challenging training. And I did a very challenging surgery on a very needy patient. surgery on a very needy patient. surgery on a very needy patient. Gentleman was about to go into renal Gentleman was about to go into renal Gentleman was about to go into renal failure, did not have a lot of kidney failure, did not have a lot of kidney failure, did not have a lot of kidney left. And he had a very challenging left. And he had a very challenging left. And he had a very challenging kidney tumor that was in a very kidney tumor that was in a very kidney tumor that was in a very treacherous location. It was in a treacherous location. It was in a treacherous location. It was in a location where he should have lost that location where he should have lost that location where he should have lost that kidney by all measure if we were going kidney by all measure if we were going kidney by all measure if we were going to take out that cancer. to take out that cancer. to take out that cancer. And he was at a county hospital, he had And he was at a county hospital, he had And he was at a county hospital, he had no insurance, you know, and we swung for no insurance, you know, and we swung for no insurance, you know, and we swung for the fences and did a very, very the fences and did a very, very the fences and did a very, very challenging operation on him. And challenging operation on him. And challenging operation on him. And against our best efforts with having against our best efforts with having against our best efforts with having everybody there, everybody there, everybody there, he ended up having a bleed he ended up having a bleed he ended up having a bleed postoperatively that night. And I postoperatively that night. And I postoperatively that night. And I remember getting the call, I was on remember getting the call, I was on remember getting the call, I was on call, and that his blood pressure had call, and that his blood pressure had call, and that his blood pressure had dropped and that he did not look well dropped and that he did not look well dropped and that he did not look well and I knew exactly what it was because and I knew exactly what it was because and I knew exactly what it was because again this was a very treacherous again this was a very treacherous again this was a very treacherous surgery. surgery. surgery. And I went in in the middle of the night And I went in in the middle of the night And I went in in the middle of the night with my attending who was a different with my attending who was a different with my attending who was a different attending than the one I did the initial attending than the one I did the initial attending than the one I did the initial surgery with. surgery with. surgery with. And I remember just opening him up And I remember just opening him up And I remember just opening him up and just and just and just being covered in blood that we were being covered in blood that we were being covered in blood that we were taking out of the abdominal field, that taking out of the abdominal field, that taking out of the abdominal field, that we were evacuating, eventually we were evacuating, eventually we were evacuating, eventually identifying the area of the bleed, and identifying the area of the bleed, and identifying the area of the bleed, and there was no way that it could have been there was no way that it could have been there was no way that it could have been avoided. I remember my attending yelling avoided. I remember my attending yelling avoided. I remember my attending yelling at me and we ultimately had to take that at me and we ultimately had to take that at me and we ultimately had to take that guy's kidney. guy's kidney. guy's kidney. And And And I remember I remember I remember walking out of there just being totally walking out of there just being totally walking out of there just being totally shattered, covered in blood, crying in a shattered, covered in blood, crying in a shattered, covered in blood, crying in a hallway by myself, wondering if hallway by myself, wondering if hallway by myself, wondering if you know, like what what was the point? you know, like what what was the point? you know, like what what was the point? Like is there going to be a Is there a Like is there going to be a Is there a Like is there going to be a Is there a tomorrow after this? Like I spent all tomorrow after this? Like I spent all tomorrow after this? Like I spent all this time in this training, like am I this time in this training, like am I this time in this training, like am I good enough? Am I going to be able to good enough? Am I going to be able to good enough? Am I going to be able to make this? make this? make this? And, you know, I wasn't well put And, you know, I wasn't well put And, you know, I wasn't well put together, wasn't healthy, uh and I ended together, wasn't healthy, uh and I ended together, wasn't healthy, uh and I ended up spending a lot of time with that up spending a lot of time with that up spending a lot of time with that patient, literally held his hand patient, literally held his hand patient, literally held his hand throughout the rest of his hospital throughout the rest of his hospital throughout the rest of his hospital stay. stay. stay. And he ended up recovering uh and And he ended up recovering uh and And he ended up recovering uh and against all odds. against all odds. against all odds. But, you know, afterwards, I took a But, you know, afterwards, I took a But, you know, afterwards, I took a strong interest in not only taking care strong interest in not only taking care strong interest in not only taking care of my patients, but also of my patients, but also of my patients, but also practicing what I preach, taking care of practicing what I preach, taking care of practicing what I preach, taking care of myself, and prioritizing my own health. myself, and prioritizing my own health. myself, and prioritizing my own health. I got evaluated. I was diagnosed with I got evaluated. I was diagnosed with I got evaluated. I was diagnosed with low testosterone myself. Turns out not low testosterone myself. Turns out not low testosterone myself. Turns out not eating or sleeping for 5 years will do a eating or sleeping for 5 years will do a eating or sleeping for 5 years will do a number on you, you know. number on you, you know. number on you, you know. >> his old stress? >> his old stress? >> his old stress? Through the roof, 24/7. I cannot even Through the roof, 24/7. I cannot even Through the roof, 24/7. I cannot even imagine what, you know, there's a part imagine what, you know, there's a part imagine what, you know, there's a part in the brain called the hippocampus that in the brain called the hippocampus that in the brain called the hippocampus that they when they do MRIs on soldiers that they when they do MRIs on soldiers that they when they do MRIs on soldiers that come back from war, that'll be come back from war, that'll be come back from war, that'll be degenerated in them. I wonder if we did degenerated in them. I wonder if we did degenerated in them. I wonder if we did that in surgical trainees, what that that in surgical trainees, what that that in surgical trainees, what that would look like. But, I made a would look like. But, I made a would look like. But, I made a commitment to take care of my patients, commitment to take care of my patients, commitment to take care of my patients, to take care of myself, and make that a to take care of myself, and make that a to take care of myself, and make that a priority, and priority, and priority, and to be, you know, simultaneously the best to be, you know, simultaneously the best to be, you know, simultaneously the best doctor and you know, the best father and doctor and you know, the best father and doctor and you know, the best father and you know, husband I could be. you know, husband I could be. you know, husband I could be. Not perfect, made a lot of mistakes Not perfect, made a lot of mistakes Not perfect, made a lot of mistakes along the way, but you know, what you're along the way, but you know, what you're along the way, but you know, what you're seeing from 5 years ago is where I was, seeing from 5 years ago is where I was, seeing from 5 years ago is where I was, you know, I've been in training now for you know, I've been in training now for you know, I've been in training now for 7 years, so it took a while to kind of 7 years, so it took a while to kind of 7 years, so it took a while to kind of recover from that. But, what you're recover from that. But, what you're recover from that. But, what you're seeing is, you know, seeing is, you know, seeing is, you know, what focusing on health and wellness can what focusing on health and wellness can what focusing on health and wellness can potentially look like. potentially look like. potentially look like. The emotion in you is palpable when you The emotion in you is palpable when you The emotion in you is palpable when you talk about this. talk about this. talk about this. And I'm wondering where that comes from. And I'm wondering where that comes from. And I'm wondering where that comes from. What is it? Cuz you're looking off into What is it? Cuz you're looking off into What is it? Cuz you're looking off into the distance at something. the distance at something. the distance at something. I don't know what you're looking at. I don't know what you're looking at. I don't know what you're looking at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I I when I'm caring for my patients and I when I'm caring for my patients and I when I'm caring for my patients and I see a young man see a young man see a young man that is that is that is struggling with his fertility and he struggling with his fertility and he struggling with his fertility and he wants to be a father. wants to be a father. wants to be a father. I was that guy. I was that guy. I was that guy. Me and my wife couldn't get pregnant Me and my wife couldn't get pregnant Me and my wife couldn't get pregnant when we first tried. when we first tried. when we first tried. We ended up having to do in vitro We ended up having to do in vitro We ended up having to do in vitro fertilization and IVF. fertilization and IVF. fertilization and IVF. I remember feeling like I wasn't a man I remember feeling like I wasn't a man I remember feeling like I wasn't a man because I was sitting in that room because I was sitting in that room because I was sitting in that room holding her hand and not having any holding her hand and not having any holding her hand and not having any answers to why things weren't working. answers to why things weren't working. answers to why things weren't working. Um when I see my patients who come in Um when I see my patients who come in Um when I see my patients who come in that are, [clears throat] that are, [clears throat] that are, [clears throat] you know, struggling because their you know, struggling because their you know, struggling because their hormones are out of whack and no matter hormones are out of whack and no matter hormones are out of whack and no matter how they try to take care of themselves, how they try to take care of themselves, how they try to take care of themselves, something just isn't clicking. something just isn't clicking. something just isn't clicking. I've been that guy. I've been that guy. I've been that guy. And then when I see my other patients, And then when I see my other patients, And then when I see my other patients, you know, that are further on in life you know, that are further on in life you know, that are further on in life and struggling with things like, you and struggling with things like, you and struggling with things like, you know, prostate cancer or erectile know, prostate cancer or erectile know, prostate cancer or erectile dysfunction, whatever the case may be, I dysfunction, whatever the case may be, I dysfunction, whatever the case may be, I see like I see my my my father, my see like I see my my my father, my see like I see my my my father, my uncle, my grandfather. I like these uncle, my grandfather. I like these uncle, my grandfather. I like these but and they are someone's father, but and they are someone's father, but and they are someone's father, grandfather, and uncle. Like these are grandfather, and uncle. Like these are grandfather, and uncle. Like these are our brothers and this is who I have been our brothers and this is who I have been our brothers and this is who I have been called to care for. And I care for my called to care for. And I care for my called to care for. And I care for my patients deeply. And it's because I care patients deeply. And it's because I care patients deeply. And it's because I care for the my patients and like this is a for the my patients and like this is a for the my patients and like this is a calling for me that I care about stuff calling for me that I care about stuff calling for me that I care about stuff like this because I want my patients to like this because I want my patients to like this because I want my patients to have every tool physically possible to have every tool physically possible to have every tool physically possible to live their best quality of life so that live their best quality of life so that live their best quality of life so that they can be whole and they can be happy they can be whole and they can be happy they can be whole and they can be happy and so that they can be the best version and so that they can be the best version and so that they can be the best version of themselves for their loved ones. Well, thank you for caring. Well, thank you for caring. Cuz it matters. Cuz it matters. Cuz it matters. And uh a lot of this stuff is quite And uh a lot of this stuff is quite And uh a lot of this stuff is quite opaque and confusing to an average opaque and confusing to an average opaque and confusing to an average person like me, but it's going to I'm so person like me, but it's going to I'm so person like me, but it's going to I'm so glad that we have people like there in glad that we have people like there in glad that we have people like there in the world like you that are demystifying the world like you that are demystifying the world like you that are demystifying all of this for us and explaining it in all of this for us and explaining it in all of this for us and explaining it in simple terms, but also championing it simple terms, but also championing it simple terms, but also championing it because, you know, one of the thing because, you know, one of the thing because, you know, one of the thing other things I've learned from listening other things I've learned from listening other things I've learned from listening to this podcast is to this podcast is to this podcast is solutions to problems that a lot of solutions to problems that a lot of solutions to problems that a lot of people are suffering with are often people are suffering with are often people are suffering with are often right in front of us, but they need right in front of us, but they need right in front of us, but they need voices and educators like yourself out voices and educators like yourself out voices and educators like yourself out there um leading the charge so that there um leading the charge so that there um leading the charge so that these types of things are available to these types of things are available to these types of things are available to everyone, not just the few. everyone, not just the few. everyone, not just the few. Absolutely. Not just the billionaires Absolutely. Not just the billionaires Absolutely. Not just the billionaires who can get whatever they want straight who can get whatever they want straight who can get whatever they want straight away any day. Yeah, I mean, away any day. Yeah, I mean, away any day. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's a you know, it's a you know, it's a one thing I I love is that I've I've one thing I I love is that I've I've one thing I I love is that I've I've been very blessed in my practice to take been very blessed in my practice to take been very blessed in my practice to take care of people that are much fancier care of people that are much fancier care of people that are much fancier than I am and sit in boardrooms and that than I am and sit in boardrooms and that than I am and sit in boardrooms and that sort of thing. But, you know what? I sort of thing. But, you know what? I sort of thing. But, you know what? I love taking care of my my regular love taking care of my my regular love taking care of my my regular patients who are, you know, farmers, patients who are, you know, farmers, patients who are, you know, farmers, ironworkers, you know, tradesmen, guys ironworkers, you know, tradesmen, guys ironworkers, you know, tradesmen, guys that, you know, truthfully, I have more that, you know, truthfully, I have more that, you know, truthfully, I have more in common with than anyone else. You in common with than anyone else. You in common with than anyone else. You know, I joke with my patients, I'm just know, I joke with my patients, I'm just know, I joke with my patients, I'm just an over educated plumber at the end of an over educated plumber at the end of an over educated plumber at the end of the day, right? Urologist. And so, the day, right? Urologist. And so, the day, right? Urologist. And so, um it's um it's um it's uh health is for everyone, not just for uh health is for everyone, not just for uh health is for everyone, not just for the fortunate. the fortunate. the fortunate. The last thing I wanted to talk to you The last thing I wanted to talk to you The last thing I wanted to talk to you about is linked but random. Yes. about is linked but random. Yes. about is linked but random. Yes. It's the Enhanced Games. It's the Enhanced Games. It's the Enhanced Games. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I I am so excited about these. So, >> I I am so excited about these. So, >> I I am so excited about these. So, >> Do you know them? I do, very well. So, >> Do you know them? I do, very well. So, >> Do you know them? I do, very well. So, for those of you or for for those who for those of you or for for those who for those of you or for for those who may not know, the Enhanced Games is a may not know, the Enhanced Games is a may not know, the Enhanced Games is a project based off of the World project based off of the World project based off of the World Anti-Doping Agency's own data. Anti-Doping Agency's own data. Anti-Doping Agency's own data. Potentially up to 40% of athletes that Potentially up to 40% of athletes that Potentially up to 40% of athletes that are competing at the Olympic level have are competing at the Olympic level have are competing at the Olympic level have either are currently using or have used either are currently using or have used either are currently using or have used banned substances at some point in time, banned substances at some point in time, banned substances at some point in time, all right? And also, we know that a lot all right? And also, we know that a lot all right? And also, we know that a lot of the compounds that are used for of the compounds that are used for of the compounds that are used for enhancement maybe aren't quite so enhancement maybe aren't quite so enhancement maybe aren't quite so dangerous if they're being administered dangerous if they're being administered dangerous if they're being administered by a trained medical professional with by a trained medical professional with by a trained medical professional with proper oversight. And as of right now, proper oversight. And as of right now, proper oversight. And as of right now, that's not happening. Also, at the same that's not happening. Also, at the same that's not happening. Also, at the same time, we know that Olympic athletes time, we know that Olympic athletes time, we know that Olympic athletes aren't paid enough, right? These are the aren't paid enough, right? These are the aren't paid enough, right? These are the best of the best of the best and they're best of the best of the best and they're best of the best of the best and they're not even making the poverty line a lot not even making the poverty line a lot not even making the poverty line a lot of years. And so, the idea is this, of years. And so, the idea is this, of years. And so, the idea is this, well, what if we go ahead and we strip well, what if we go ahead and we strip well, what if we go ahead and we strip away those rules, okay? We allow away those rules, okay? We allow away those rules, okay? We allow athletes to use medications that can athletes to use medications that can athletes to use medications that can enhance performance. We watch them very enhance performance. We watch them very enhance performance. We watch them very closely and we have a team of doctors closely and we have a team of doctors closely and we have a team of doctors and medical medical professionals and medical medical professionals and medical medical professionals watching them. And then, let's see what watching them. And then, let's see what watching them. And then, let's see what they can do at these traditional Olympic they can do at these traditional Olympic they can do at these traditional Olympic events and see if they smash world events and see if they smash world events and see if they smash world records. Oh, and they're going to give records. Oh, and they're going to give records. Oh, and they're going to give 250 grand to any first place winners and 250 grand to any first place winners and 250 grand to any first place winners and a million dollars to anyone that hits a a million dollars to anyone that hits a a million dollars to anyone that hits a world record. And just for comparison, world record. And just for comparison, world record. And just for comparison, how much are Olympic athletes getting how much are Olympic athletes getting how much are Olympic athletes getting paid? They don't get paid to compete at paid? They don't get paid to compete at paid? They don't get paid to compete at all, okay? So, they don't get paid to be all, okay? So, they don't get paid to be all, okay? So, they don't get paid to be an Olympic athlete. They an Olympic athlete. They an Olympic athlete. They uh end up getting sponsorship deals and uh end up getting sponsorship deals and uh end up getting sponsorship deals and that's potentially the money that they that's potentially the money that they that's potentially the money that they can make. can make. can make. So, So, So, yeah. Interesting. So, it's yeah. Interesting. So, it's yeah. Interesting. So, it's [clears throat] basically the doping [clears throat] basically the doping [clears throat] basically the doping Olympics where everyone's allowed to Olympics where everyone's allowed to Olympics where everyone's allowed to dope. That's the idea. There are some dope. That's the idea. There are some dope. That's the idea. There are some caveats in there. They're trying to say caveats in there. They're trying to say caveats in there. They're trying to say that only FDA approved medications can that only FDA approved medications can that only FDA approved medications can be used, okay? So, you couldn't use be used, okay? So, you couldn't use be used, okay? So, you couldn't use something like trenbolone, which is for something like trenbolone, which is for something like trenbolone, which is for veterinary use only, veterinary use only, veterinary use only, um or theoretically any of the compounds um or theoretically any of the compounds um or theoretically any of the compounds we've talked about today cuz they're not we've talked about today cuz they're not we've talked about today cuz they're not FDA approved. But also at the same time, FDA approved. But also at the same time, FDA approved. But also at the same time, they've said that they're not going to they've said that they're not going to they've said that they're not going to test for those things and one of their test for those things and one of their test for those things and one of their athletes uh Magnusson has openly athletes uh Magnusson has openly athletes uh Magnusson has openly admitted to taking BPC 157 and that sort admitted to taking BPC 157 and that sort admitted to taking BPC 157 and that sort of thing. So, I think we can kind of of thing. So, I think we can kind of of thing. So, I think we can kind of figure out that it may just be a wide figure out that it may just be a wide figure out that it may just be a wide open playing field, maybe. open playing field, maybe. open playing field, maybe. So, So, So, The International Olympic Committee does The International Olympic Committee does The International Olympic Committee does not pay athletes a single cent for not pay athletes a single cent for not pay athletes a single cent for winning a gold medal. winning a gold medal. winning a gold medal. Yep. Just crazy. How many billions do Yep. Just crazy. How many billions do Yep. Just crazy. How many billions do you think they make off of those with you think they make off of those with you think they make off of those with all the advertisement? So much money. all the advertisement? So much money. all the advertisement? So much money. Right? Right? Right? Yeah. And this is taking place in Las Yeah. And this is taking place in Las Yeah. And this is taking place in Las Vegas. May 21st through the 24th, I Vegas. May 21st through the 24th, I Vegas. May 21st through the 24th, I believe. Are you going to go? believe. Are you going to go? believe. Are you going to go? I'm going to be watching, that's for I'm going to be watching, that's for I'm going to be watching, that's for sure. sure. sure. Do you want to go? I would love to go. Do you want to go? I would love to go. Do you want to go? I would love to go. That would be incredible. Well, if you That would be incredible. Well, if you That would be incredible. Well, if you want to go, I know a few people that are want to go, I know a few people that are want to go, I know a few people that are that are putting the event on, so do let that are putting the event on, so do let that are putting the event on, so do let me know. I'm there, man. I'm already me know. I'm there, man. I'm already me know. I'm there, man. I'm already interested. You got my got my attention. interested. You got my got my attention. interested. You got my got my attention. Is there anything else we should have Is there anything else we should have Is there anything else we should have talked about that we didn't talk about talked about that we didn't talk about talked about that we didn't talk about as it relates to this subject we've as it relates to this subject we've as it relates to this subject we've discussed today? I mean, honestly, I discussed today? I mean, honestly, I discussed today? I mean, honestly, I think that we've gone pretty deep on think that we've gone pretty deep on think that we've gone pretty deep on peptides and so I think we've, you know, peptides and so I think we've, you know, peptides and so I think we've, you know, uh covered uh that. But one thing that I uh covered uh that. But one thing that I uh covered uh that. But one thing that I did want to just uh leave with you cuz I did want to just uh leave with you cuz I did want to just uh leave with you cuz I think it's pretty humorous. I think think it's pretty humorous. I think think it's pretty humorous. I think you've talked to some of my colleagues you've talked to some of my colleagues you've talked to some of my colleagues about this before. But, you know, one of about this before. But, you know, one of about this before. But, you know, one of the things that I deal with as a the things that I deal with as a the things that I deal with as a surgical specialist is the end stage of surgical specialist is the end stage of surgical specialist is the end stage of vascular disease, the end stage of vascular disease, the end stage of vascular disease, the end stage of diabetes, which is going to be erectile diabetes, which is going to be erectile diabetes, which is going to be erectile dysfunction, all right? And, you know, dysfunction, all right? And, you know, dysfunction, all right? And, you know, believe it or not, whenever we're believe it or not, whenever we're believe it or not, whenever we're dealing with that in male patients, they dealing with that in male patients, they dealing with that in male patients, they eventually get to a point where things eventually get to a point where things eventually get to a point where things like Viagra and Cialis do not work. All like Viagra and Cialis do not work. All like Viagra and Cialis do not work. All right? And that is a dark place to be as right? And that is a dark place to be as right? And that is a dark place to be as a guy. And so, you're taking these a guy. And so, you're taking these a guy. And so, you're taking these medications, all you're getting is a medications, all you're getting is a medications, all you're getting is a headache and nothing else. And then, headache and nothing else. And then, headache and nothing else. And then, maybe you have other options. There are maybe you have other options. There are maybe you have other options. There are actually injections you can do in the actually injections you can do in the actually injections you can do in the penis, penis, penis, which is about as appetizing as you which is about as appetizing as you which is about as appetizing as you might imagine. But, men want a better might imagine. But, men want a better might imagine. But, men want a better solution, and they'll come to us as solution, and they'll come to us as solution, and they'll come to us as sexual medicine specialists, you know, sexual medicine specialists, you know, sexual medicine specialists, you know, seeking that. And that's what I do. So, seeking that. And that's what I do. So, seeking that. And that's what I do. So, the bulk of my surgical practice is the bulk of my surgical practice is the bulk of my surgical practice is actually fixing erectile dysfunction actually fixing erectile dysfunction actually fixing erectile dysfunction with a procedure called implant with a procedure called implant with a procedure called implant placement, okay? placement, okay? placement, okay? >> Oh, no. Absolutely. So, >> Oh, no. Absolutely. So, >> Oh, no. Absolutely. So, now, I think did Rena show you one of now, I think did Rena show you one of now, I think did Rena show you one of these last time? She brought out I these last time? She brought out I these last time? She brought out I didn't I didn't ask her. It She It makes didn't I didn't ask her. It She It makes didn't I didn't ask her. It She It makes me like I get full body shudders when I me like I get full body shudders when I me like I get full body shudders when I hear about this stuff. Yeah. The thought hear about this stuff. Yeah. The thought hear about this stuff. Yeah. The thought of putting that up my penis. Well, so of putting that up my penis. Well, so of putting that up my penis. Well, so You can show me. No, you can show me. You can show me. No, you can show me. You can show me. No, you can show me. Well, I would tell you the good news is Well, I would tell you the good news is Well, I would tell you the good news is you don't have to, okay? Like, that's you don't have to, okay? Like, that's you don't have to, okay? Like, that's that's what what we have a job for, that's what what we have a job for, that's what what we have a job for, okay? But, the way I explain to patients okay? But, the way I explain to patients okay? But, the way I explain to patients is like this. So, take this out of out is like this. So, take this out of out is like this. So, take this out of out of the picture, okay? Ultimately, like of the picture, okay? Ultimately, like of the picture, okay? Ultimately, like the male erection is just two inflatable the male erection is just two inflatable the male erection is just two inflatable tubes that start in the pelvis and go tubes that start in the pelvis and go tubes that start in the pelvis and go out the shaft of the penis. It makes out the shaft of the penis. It makes out the shaft of the penis. It makes sense, right? It is a hydraulic motion. sense, right? It is a hydraulic motion. sense, right? It is a hydraulic motion. What happens is you get stimulated, get What happens is you get stimulated, get What happens is you get stimulated, get a rush of blood into those tubes, get a a rush of blood into those tubes, get a a rush of blood into those tubes, get a rigid erection, able to use that for rigid erection, able to use that for rigid erection, able to use that for intimacy, and then when you climax, intimacy, and then when you climax, intimacy, and then when you climax, pop-off valve opens back up and pop-off valve opens back up and pop-off valve opens back up and everything drains out, all right? So, if everything drains out, all right? So, if everything drains out, all right? So, if you can understand brakes on a car, you you can understand brakes on a car, you you can understand brakes on a car, you can understand erections. But, the can understand erections. But, the can understand erections. But, the problem is that when you have long-term problem is that when you have long-term problem is that when you have long-term metabolic and vascular dysfunction, the metabolic and vascular dysfunction, the metabolic and vascular dysfunction, the brake lines, the blood vessels that feed brake lines, the blood vessels that feed brake lines, the blood vessels that feed those erections, they fail. And all of a those erections, they fail. And all of a those erections, they fail. And all of a sudden, you can't get enough blood flow sudden, you can't get enough blood flow sudden, you can't get enough blood flow for it to work. And believe it or not, for it to work. And believe it or not, for it to work. And believe it or not, you can actually get atrophy of the you can actually get atrophy of the you can actually get atrophy of the penis over time, and you actually lose penis over time, and you actually lose penis over time, and you actually lose size, all right? Which no man is eager size, all right? Which no man is eager size, all right? Which no man is eager to see, all right? But, whenever the to see, all right? But, whenever the to see, all right? But, whenever the easy things, like oral medications, easy things, like oral medications, easy things, like oral medications, Viagra and Cialis, don't work anymore, Viagra and Cialis, don't work anymore, Viagra and Cialis, don't work anymore, the next best option, if we're looking the next best option, if we're looking the next best option, if we're looking at patient satisfaction, durability, at patient satisfaction, durability, at patient satisfaction, durability, concealability, is this little thing concealability, is this little thing concealability, is this little thing that I do, which is what if we took our that I do, which is what if we took our that I do, which is what if we took our own tubes, okay? And we put them inside own tubes, okay? And we put them inside own tubes, okay? And we put them inside your body's natural ones. It's your body's natural ones. It's your body's natural ones. It's invisible. Nobody looking at you could invisible. Nobody looking at you could invisible. Nobody looking at you could ever tell that you've ever had anything ever tell that you've ever had anything ever tell that you've ever had anything done. But all of a sudden when you want done. But all of a sudden when you want done. But all of a sudden when you want to get an erection, instead of having to to get an erection, instead of having to to get an erection, instead of having to rely on pills that don't work or putting rely on pills that don't work or putting rely on pills that don't work or putting a needle in there, right? You could a needle in there, right? You could a needle in there, right? You could reach down and there's a small pump that reach down and there's a small pump that reach down and there's a small pump that we hide underneath the skin down in the we hide underneath the skin down in the we hide underneath the skin down in the scrotum. Okay, so I joke it's like a scrotum. Okay, so I joke it's like a scrotum. Okay, so I joke it's like a third testicle, but again, nothing third testicle, but again, nothing third testicle, but again, nothing external, nothing you can see. And all external, nothing you can see. And all external, nothing you can see. And all of a sudden, whenever you squeeze this, of a sudden, whenever you squeeze this, of a sudden, whenever you squeeze this, what it does is it moves saline that we what it does is it moves saline that we what it does is it moves saline that we hide in a little reservoir that goes in hide in a little reservoir that goes in hide in a little reservoir that goes in the belly. You never feel that. Into the the belly. You never feel that. Into the the belly. You never feel that. Into the cylinders and all of a sudden men are cylinders and all of a sudden men are cylinders and all of a sudden men are able to get a firm, rigid erection that able to get a firm, rigid erection that able to get a firm, rigid erection that looks natural, feels natural, looks natural, feels natural, looks natural, feels natural, and they can use it as long as they want and they can use it as long as they want and they can use it as long as they want or until their partner's sick of them. or until their partner's sick of them. or until their partner's sick of them. And then press a button and it goes back And then press a button and it goes back And then press a button and it goes back down. Do they still feel the same down. Do they still feel the same down. Do they still feel the same pleasure? Yeah. So it does not affect pleasure? Yeah. So it does not affect pleasure? Yeah. So it does not affect sensation. And so the nerves that affect sensation. And so the nerves that affect sensation. And so the nerves that affect sensation run along the top of the sensation run along the top of the sensation run along the top of the penis. If you're looking at a clock, at penis. If you're looking at a clock, at penis. If you're looking at a clock, at the 12:00 position, and we stay totally the 12:00 position, and we stay totally the 12:00 position, and we stay totally away from those. So this is away from those. So this is away from those. So this is surgically put inside the penis. All surgically put inside the penis. All surgically put inside the penis. All internal. And believe it or not, that internal. And believe it or not, that internal. And believe it or not, that takes me about 13 minutes to do. How takes me about 13 minutes to do. How takes me about 13 minutes to do. How many people have these? many people have these? many people have these? Well, uh I've put in about 11 or 1,200 Well, uh I've put in about 11 or 1,200 Well, uh I've put in about 11 or 1,200 personally, but personally, but personally, but >> 1,100 or 1,200? >> 1,100 or 1,200? >> 1,100 or 1,200? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> quite a lot of people. There'll be >> quite a lot of people. There'll be >> quite a lot of people. There'll be people listening now that have these. people listening now that have these. people listening now that have these. Well, you know, this is what's Well, you know, this is what's Well, you know, this is what's interesting. If you look at in the interesting. If you look at in the interesting. If you look at in the United States right now, okay, there are United States right now, okay, there are United States right now, okay, there are 30 million men with erectile dysfunction 30 million men with erectile dysfunction 30 million men with erectile dysfunction in the United States right now. That's in the United States right now. That's in the United States right now. That's more than the population of Australia, more than the population of Australia, more than the population of Australia, all right? all right? all right? >> And if you look at statistics, the oral >> And if you look at statistics, the oral >> And if you look at statistics, the oral medications are going to fail in 15% of medications are going to fail in 15% of medications are going to fail in 15% of those men the first time they feel that. those men the first time they feel that. those men the first time they feel that. And so you're talking about millions and And so you're talking about millions and And so you're talking about millions and millions of men who aren't responding to millions of men who aren't responding to millions of men who aren't responding to oral medications and need a better oral medications and need a better oral medications and need a better option. So where's the button to option. So where's the button to option. So where's the button to get rid of the erection? get rid of the erection? get rid of the erection? >> those two little bars right there? These >> those two little bars right there? These >> those two little bars right there? These two? Yep, go ahead and put your thumb on two? Yep, go ahead and put your thumb on two? Yep, go ahead and put your thumb on I yep, do that and then squeeze from the I yep, do that and then squeeze from the I yep, do that and then squeeze from the end of the device back end of the device back end of the device back towards the pump. So squeeze squeeze. towards the pump. So squeeze squeeze. towards the pump. So squeeze squeeze. Yep. Yep. Yep. Right there. There you go. It's down. And then you would have the weight of And then you would have the weight of your natural tissue push things down. your natural tissue push things down. your natural tissue push things down. Okay, and then you Okay. There you go. Okay, and then you Okay. There you go. Okay, and then you Okay. There you go. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hm. Okay. Well, you know, I'm I'm happy Hm. Okay. Well, you know, I'm I'm happy Hm. Okay. Well, you know, I'm I'm happy people have the options because I can people have the options because I can people have the options because I can imagine imagine imagine what that would be like to not be able what that would be like to not be able what that would be like to not be able to get an erection. It would be to get an erection. It would be to get an erection. It would be devastating, frankly. Well, I'll tell devastating, frankly. Well, I'll tell devastating, frankly. Well, I'll tell you this. I get more hugs and high fives you this. I get more hugs and high fives you this. I get more hugs and high fives than anybody else in my practice, and than anybody else in my practice, and than anybody else in my practice, and that includes the guys that treat kidney that includes the guys that treat kidney that includes the guys that treat kidney stones and cancer. So, I feel like I'm stones and cancer. So, I feel like I'm stones and cancer. So, I feel like I'm doing some doing some good work here. doing some doing some good work here. doing some doing some good work here. >> Until peptides put me out of business. >> Until peptides put me out of business. >> Until peptides put me out of business. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I don't think that's going to happen >> I don't think that's going to happen >> I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. And you have a great anytime soon. And you have a great anytime soon. And you have a great YouTube channel. Thank you. I appreciate YouTube channel. Thank you. I appreciate YouTube channel. Thank you. I appreciate that. that. that. >> Which I think everybody should go check >> Which I think everybody should go check >> Which I think everybody should go check out because you really are great at at out because you really are great at at out because you really are great at at explaining all this stuff in simple explaining all this stuff in simple explaining all this stuff in simple terms. So, I'm going to link uh Dr. terms. So, I'm going to link uh Dr. terms. So, I'm going to link uh Dr. Alex's YouTube channel down below. We'll Alex's YouTube channel down below. We'll Alex's YouTube channel down below. We'll try and collab. So, if you just click on try and collab. So, if you just click on try and collab. So, if you just click on the Drive for CEO icon now, you'll see the Drive for CEO icon now, you'll see the Drive for CEO icon now, you'll see Alex's channel. And I highly recommend Alex's channel. And I highly recommend Alex's channel. And I highly recommend you go check out his content cuz he's you go check out his content cuz he's you go check out his content cuz he's really really leading the charge on the really really leading the charge on the really really leading the charge on the subject of peptides. When subject of peptides. When subject of peptides. When I spoke to my team and said I want to I spoke to my team and said I want to I spoke to my team and said I want to have a conversation about peptides, they have a conversation about peptides, they have a conversation about peptides, they gave me lots of options of lots of gave me lots of options of lots of gave me lots of options of lots of different types of doctors, and uh you different types of doctors, and uh you different types of doctors, and uh you were by far and away uh our preference were by far and away uh our preference were by far and away uh our preference because of the very fact that you're because of the very fact that you're because of the very fact that you're very very good at communicating. You very very good at communicating. You very very good at communicating. You understand people. And as you've understand people. And as you've understand people. And as you've demonstrated today, you have a very big demonstrated today, you have a very big demonstrated today, you have a very big heart. I appreciate that. heart. I appreciate that. heart. I appreciate that. >> And you're clearly it's it was wonderful >> And you're clearly it's it was wonderful >> And you're clearly it's it was wonderful to see what's actually driving you. Um to see what's actually driving you. Um to see what's actually driving you. Um and you did that in a way which um is and you did that in a way which um is and you did that in a way which um is irrefutably authentic. irrefutably authentic. irrefutably authentic. So, please go check out Alex's channel. So, please go check out Alex's channel. So, please go check out Alex's channel. Um he's around You're around 100,000 Um he's around You're around 100,000 Um he's around You're around 100,000 subscribers on that channel now? Um so subscribers on that channel now? Um so subscribers on that channel now? Um so close. We're at like 98, 99. Any minute close. We're at like 98, 99. Any minute close. We're at like 98, 99. Any minute now. Okay. So, hopefully we can help now. Okay. So, hopefully we can help now. Okay. So, hopefully we can help push you over push you over push you over um that um that um that that milestone. Yeah. that milestone. Yeah. that milestone. Yeah. We have a a closing tradition, Alex, on We have a a closing tradition, Alex, on We have a a closing tradition, Alex, on this podcast where the last guest leaves this podcast where the last guest leaves this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next, not knowing who a question for the next, not knowing who a question for the next, not knowing who they're leaving it for. Okay. Question they're leaving it for. Okay. Question they're leaving it for. Okay. Question left for you is if you could give left for you is if you could give left for you is if you could give $1 billion to one person you don't know $1 billion to one person you don't know $1 billion to one person you don't know personally, who is it personally, who is it personally, who is it and what do they have to spend it on? and what do they have to spend it on? and what do they have to spend it on? Uh Honestly, I would Honestly, I would give it to Elon Musk. Okay. And it's not give it to Elon Musk. Okay. And it's not give it to Elon Musk. Okay. And it's not because I think that he's hurting for a because I think that he's hurting for a because I think that he's hurting for a billion dollars right now. But, if you billion dollars right now. But, if you billion dollars right now. But, if you look at what he is working on to look at what he is working on to look at what he is working on to accomplish for us as a human race, accomplish for us as a human race, accomplish for us as a human race, right? He I truly believe from what I've right? He I truly believe from what I've right? He I truly believe from what I've seen that he has a similar heart for seen that he has a similar heart for seen that he has a similar heart for humanity that I've seen with a lot of humanity that I've seen with a lot of humanity that I've seen with a lot of physicians, but on a macro scale as an physicians, but on a macro scale as an physicians, but on a macro scale as an engineer and an entrepreneur, he's engineer and an entrepreneur, he's engineer and an entrepreneur, he's trying to solve some of the greatest trying to solve some of the greatest trying to solve some of the greatest problems that are facing us today. And I problems that are facing us today. And I problems that are facing us today. And I think that what we are going to see, think that what we are going to see, think that what we are going to see, hopefully coming from the uh Terafab hopefully coming from the uh Terafab hopefully coming from the uh Terafab down in Austin, is going to be wild with down in Austin, is going to be wild with down in Austin, is going to be wild with recursive uh feedback and engineering on recursive uh feedback and engineering on recursive uh feedback and engineering on AI chips that are going to get better AI chips that are going to get better AI chips that are going to get better and better and better in a short period and better and better in a short period and better and better in a short period of time and increasing, you know, of time and increasing, you know, of time and increasing, you know, independence when it comes to, you know, independence when it comes to, you know, independence when it comes to, you know, chip foundries for the United States. chip foundries for the United States. chip foundries for the United States. Like, it's wild and I think that that Like, it's wild and I think that that Like, it's wild and I think that that billion dollars would go further and do billion dollars would go further and do billion dollars would go further and do more for more people than anywhere else more for more people than anywhere else more for more people than anywhere else I could put it. And he's also working on I could put it. And he's also working on I could put it. And he's also working on Neuralink, which is a really interesting Neuralink, which is a really interesting Neuralink, which is a really interesting company which puts a sort of brain chip company which puts a sort of brain chip company which puts a sort of brain chip interfaces to allow people to interfaces to allow people to interfaces to allow people to hear again, see again, allow paraplegics hear again, see again, allow paraplegics hear again, see again, allow paraplegics to walk again, um which is to walk again, um which is to walk again, um which is really, really incredible. Dr. Alex, really, really incredible. Dr. Alex, really, really incredible. Dr. Alex, thank you so much. It's so illuminating thank you so much. It's so illuminating thank you so much. It's so illuminating and I can't wait to have you back again and I can't wait to have you back again and I can't wait to have you back again sometime soon to talk about all the sometime soon to talk about all the sometime soon to talk about all the other things we could have talked about other things we could have talked about other things we could have talked about today. We focused on peptides today. We focused on peptides today. We focused on peptides predominantly, but I know that over on predominantly, but I know that over on predominantly, but I know that over on your YouTube channel you talk about a your YouTube channel you talk about a your YouTube channel you talk about a lot more than that. So, highly recommend lot more than that. So, highly recommend lot more than that. 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