The Hidden Benefits of Fitness Nobody Talks About | Mind Pump 2769

Key Takeaway

Exercise isn't just about looking better—it's about becoming better. Studies show fitness increases earnings by 15%, outperforms antidepressants by 50%, and reduces chronic pain by half. The secret to lifetime consistency isn't chasing aesthetics; it's recognizing fitness transforms your productivity, creativity, mood, and relationships. Start viewing your workout as an investment in every area of your life, not just your physique.

Episode Overview

This episode explores the unconventional benefits of fitness that extend far beyond physical appearance. The hosts discuss how consistent exercise improves earnings potential, mental health, sexual function, creativity, and pain management. They emphasize that understanding these broader benefits is key to maintaining lifetime fitness consistency, rather than focusing solely on body composition changes.

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All right, I'm about to share with you the secret to fitness. What I'm about to talk about is how you stay consistent for the rest of your life. It's not about fat loss. It's not about muscle gain. That's all great, but it's really about all the other amazing side effects that fitness can provide. In fact, today we're going to talk about some of them that are totally unconventional, ones you would never even know are connected, but the data is clear. Fitness makes a lot of things better.

We're going to talk about those today. That was my first question was like how did you land on those and not all the other ones that we because we've talked on the show. We've I feel like we've covered everything. So you have we talk a lot about what we what we we talk to the clients about. Right. Getting them away from the the mirror and the scale because t that tends to be the go-to for everybody when they first get back into shape or get back into the gym to get back in shape is watching the the scale, watching the mirror.

And part of your job as a good coach is helping them connect the dots to all these other benefits. I look at your list. This is not this isn't the normalist. Although I get it. get it. get it. Some of them are are, but some of them aren't. And and that was the um motivation for this, Adam. So we now we have we do have trainers and coaches. We started this last year and uh now we have quite a few clients that work with our trainers and coaches and we learned this.

We all figured this out independently. So people, if you don't know, you know, Justin, Adam, myself were trainers for a long time before we ever started the podcast. And this was something we all came to on our own, just through experience, which was one of the ways you get somebody to stay consistent because that's the challenge. The challenge is not getting in shape. That's hard. The challenge is staying in shape. That's the 100. The data shows it, proves it. If you're listening to this, you know this because you've gone through it yourself.

And so the key is to really paint a full picture for someone and get them to understand understand understand so they can keep it going. what fitness does for you aside from make you look better, aside from help you build build muscle and burn body fat because those are true, but if that's all you focus on, you miss the big picture and then your relationship with fitness is incomplete and it makes it difficult to stay consistent. But when you have a complete relationship with fitness, you it be it's much you're much more likely to want to maintain it and keep it going because you notice all these incredible benefits.

And fitness is, let me tell you, the data on it is remarkable at how much it affects other aspects of your life, even ones you would not even think were connected. were connected. were connected. So, like the first one, yeah, this is one I want to hear. Do you have you have stats? I got a great study on this. There's many studies on this, but I got a great study. So, a lot of people don't know this, but getting fit uh will increase your earnings. You'll make more money.

Wow. Now, there's a lot of studies on this that show the correlation, but my favorite study uh was done on 5,000 twins. twins. twins. So, these are twins. So, everything's identical, they're jeans, a lot of twins. And they found with the twins that the more fit, if there was a twin that was more fit, more consistent with exercise, because you'll see this, right? Twins don't do everything the same, that there was a 15% increase in earnings just from the fitness. 15%. That's quite a bit. That's insane.

So, are they attributing this to the disciplines, behaviors with all the all the Well, we've talked about this and I mean, and I know you guys share the same thing like I I always notice um and I and just like everybody else, I go through a phase where I'm like, I just don't have the time. The day I'm so packed, I've got this going on, this I just don't have the time right now. And then you make the time and then it's almost like you get double the time back.

That's right. It's like the day gets longer. So you you just become and what it is is you become more productive with your time. That's right. right. right. And so the thing the tasks that you the mundane tasks that you do all day long, whether that be workrelated, home stuff, whatever, whatever, whatever, tends to when you're not working out and eating good, it tends to stretch out and it fills the day and it feels like you can't fit it in. Then all of a sudden I go, that's it.

I'm I'm not bending. I'm making an hour for myself to go in the gym or whatever the time is. I do that and then all those things that were still in my day all of a sudden get compressed or I become more efficient at them and it almost feels like I gain back back back that time and some. Yeah. So, side studies on that. Uh we used to use these studies by the way to talk to companies to encourage them to do corporate membership. So back in the day day day when we ran big gyms uh we would go to these companies and we would talk to their you know people in charge of uh employee benefits and stuff and we would talk to them about doing what call corporate membership corporate membership corporate membership wellness.

wellness. wellness. Yeah. Where they essentially will pay a fee and get memberships for the for their entire staff. And one of the stats that was very effective at at essentially selling them on the idea was on productivity. Mhm. And what it what these studies show was a um in some cases a 50% improvement in productivity. In other words, you dedicate now it's not a across the board linear because you could obviously overtrain, right, and do too much. But let's say you train appropriately. You're you're you're exercising appropriately.

We talk about this all the time on the show. You devote an hour to exercise. You've given yourself an additional 30 minutes on top of the hour you just took away. So you took an hour out to exercise. you now have 90 more minutes of productivity in terms of the amount of work you actually accomplish. So it's like uh it's an interesting type of physics is what ends up happening and that's from productivity. Uh it also improves uh mood it it reduces anxiety, reduces the amount of sick days that you have and if you get sick you recover faster it improves creativity.

We're going to talk about all these ones that I just listed by the way because I have studies for all that. So the the twin stud is my favorite because other studies show earnings uh even a higher percentage. But the twin study is my favorite because there's so much that you can't control when you're looking at studies with, you know, with fitness because you could say, "Oh, well maybe there's this, maybe there's that." But here you have the same, you know, genetics. This this one exercises more, this one doesn't.

How much more is the one who exercises more make? 15% more. So it's a 15% increase. So you make 100 grand a year, you made $15,000 more that year. That's over $1,000 more a month. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just because you'll work out, because you're fit. you're fit. you're fit. It'd be interesting to to get a study of like all the the millionaire billionaires that were out of shape first and then got in shape to talk about this. about this. about this. Well, we do have maybe Doug Well, we do have maybe Doug could look this up.

Uh what percentage of uh millionaires and billionaires um exercise regularly and compare that to the average population? It's like three times higher. times higher. times higher. No, really? No, really? No, really? Yeah. I actually wouldn't think that. Yep. Yep. Yep. Really? Really? Really? Yeah. So, the six the the the more you earn, the more likely you are to exercise and take care of your Now, a lot of people will argue and say, "Well, they have the time. That's why they're doing it." But again, I point back to what I said with the with the twin study, which controls for that, which is you earn.

It makes you better. Yeah. It just makes you better at making money. money. money. Yeah. They're always looking for performance increases. performance increases. performance increases. What did you find there, Doug? Yeah. So, working out is a habit. the wealthy tend to have in common. 76% of the rich exercise for at least 30 minutes every day. Yeah. That's like that's like a good 50% more more more Wow. Wow. Wow. than the average person. Yeah. I I didn't know that. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. You know, I I find that if it feels like I mean look at the Zuckerbergs, the Bezos Bezos Bezos uh they all they at one point they unlock that.

It feels like right like I mean Zuckerberg didn't come out looking like what he looks like now. Bezos didn't come out looking that way, but eventually, eventually, eventually, by the way, there's a side note. There's a myth that they have way more time on their hands. Those we work on. Stop it. Yeah, that's why I was like, "No way." You know, cuz you see pictures of them on vacations. Oh, they're not working. More money, more problems is a real thing. You know what I'm saying? You responsibility.

Yeah, I know. 100%. What the what the most of those people have done is they they have actually hacked in to productivity. No, I I'll never forget that I brought this client up before because it was so impactful. Jim was his name. He was a very wealthy, successful man. A swimmer guy, right? No, no, that was the other gym. Oh, you remember my clients? Two gyms. Yeah. So, this now this was early on in my career. my career. my career. And he was very successful, but he wasn't your traditional like went to Ivy League school, that stuff.

He was a high school dropout, ended up, you know, being an entrepreneur, very successful. His wife hired me and then his wife convinced him, actually, she bought him sessions, so he had to use them. And then he loved it. You know why he loved it? It wasn't the workouts. That's what he got from work. Yeah. He came back and he's like he's like I'm never going to stop. I had a lot of clients like that. And he's I'm like why? And he's like dude I He's those I I sell better.

I'm in my meetings better. He's like I'm a better businessman. better businessman. better businessman. I had clients that stayed with me for a long time that actually like wouldn't even let me help them with their diet. They didn't care because just because it was literally they saw the productivity in their day and work and work and work and that was enough for them that they're like I don't give a [ __ ] if I carried extra little bit of body fat. Like it was literally I was like I just okay like I'm not going to tell you you have to you know but they that's how much they valued working out.

they realized how much more they got back in that and for them that was enough of a selling point. selling point. selling point. This next one in my opinion is the biggest one. biggest one. biggest one. Uh depression. Uh the old studies, there's a lot of studies on this. The old studies showed exercise to be as effective effective effective as uh medical intervention uh and therapy for better. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, now this was my argument back then and you can go back to our older episodes as I said this.

I said, "I bet you if you extended those studies out longer, you'll see exercise outperform it because it because it because there's no down reggulation receptors. There's no side effects. There's no you don't hit a wall. You know, as you continue working out, your relationship with it continues to develop and grow and become better. Even if you don't build more muscle, get, you know, you just get better at it over time." Well, now we have great studies that show that it's one and a half times as effective.

It's actually more effective than anything for depression. Yeah. It's the most effective thing you could do for depression is exercise. Crazy side effects, you know, they list off after the commercials. No, no, the main effect that we're talking about is reduced reduction of depression. Okay. 150% better than the other ways. The side effects. So, the main effect is reduction of depression that we're talking about. What are the side effects? Leaner, more fit. I feel better. Like, yeah, like what negative side effects are there? There are no negative side effects.

In fact, the negative side effects of medical interventions medical interventions medical interventions uh like um sexual dysfunction, weight gain gain gain uh doesn't happen. The opposite happen. Disruption of hormones. Yeah. The whole thing. thing. thing. Now, the argument someone makes with that one though is that the motivation to get started is so difficult when you're in deep depression. I'm glad you said that. I'm definitely not telling people uh to drop their medication and their therapy and just go work out. And and you're right. I I've trained a lot of uh mental health experts experts experts and they uh were very forward thinking and they valued fitness because obviously they hired me to train them and they said the way that they use it sometimes is get that person out of that hole.

hole. hole. I wonder how many more do that now because of the studies have came out like that. I wonder how many people prescribe and go here's what we're going to do to get you going but then the goal is in combination with this. this. this. Yeah. You know the challenge with that Adam is the the system doesn't encourage those conversations cuz it's in and out. Yeah. Uh, but if you got like a private, you know, doctor that didn't have to like get you in and out um and deal with insurance companies, I bet you they're they're better in that sense.

Otherwise, it's like, you know, what's the code for the diagnosis? What's the right, you know, whatever. So, uh, next up is sex. Um, does fitness improve your sex life? Now, I know a lot of people are thinking like, yeah, because you look hotter that hip thrust. Don't make fun of my hip thrust, dude. Just like Just like Just like just got to bring him up. You always brag about it. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. Maps starter, Maps Transform, Maps Anabolic, Maps Performance. They're all half off right now.

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It's like it's it's a it's probably several things. things. things. It's so broad. I mean, what it's doing for balancing your hormones. There is probably an aesthetic component. When you feel good, you look good, you you those things will probably increase like it increases libid. So there's it's not like one thing, right? thing, right? thing, right? Yeah. No, but I did isolate studies because a lot of people, this is where I was going, a lot of people will say, "Well, yeah, it makes you hotter or more attractive, therefore sex is better." I found studies to show, "What was the impact in 30 days?" Cuz I look, I'll be the first to tell you, you're not working out.

You work out for 30 days, you're not going to look that different 30 days. You're not going to go from obeseto change. obeseto change. obeseto change. Yeah, it doesn't work that way, right? But here's what here's what we found. a 71% 71% 71% uh so these were these were study participants who had erectile dysfunction. 71% of them in 30 days saw a dramatic improvement and erectile dysfunction in a month. You're not losing tons of weight and building muscle and getting dramatically more fit or looking any different in 30 days.

But what we saw what we see is a majority of them already saw an improvement in erectile function. In women, it was an improvement in li lubrication and an ability to achieve orgasm within 30 days. Well, you remember when I shared that journey? This has been so long now. I can't remember how many years ago it was when when I came off of HRT for it was a good two years or more. And you had me on a stack of all these supplements trying to get your natural.

Yeah. Yeah. Tongat Ali, Ashwagandha, like all these different things that I was taking and I was doing all all the all the things I could do naturally to try and bring it up. And I remember reporting back to you that of all the things I've got going, nothing compared to like a a a heavy day of squats the day before. I mean, I could feel a difference in my libido within 24 to 48 hours from stuff like that. It's crazy. crazy. crazy. As a young trainer, it used to catch me off guard.

later, not so much because I was I anticipated it. But the people I used to get clients would comment on this uh in particular my elderly clients, I think they were just comfortable comfortable comfortable saying these things with me cuz I was a kid. They were, you know, in their 60s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they bring up their bowel movements, everything. everything. everything. Yeah. And they were just they were sweet, you know? They like it was like their grandkid. And they said it in a way that was, you know, appropriate like but it happened so often like I get the old lady I'm training and she come up to me like what is I remember the first time this happened.

I was 18. She comes up to me. She's like, "What are some does exercise affect other other things?" And I'm like, "What do you mean?" Like, you know, excited, you know, just like more energy. I'm like, "Oh, yeah, you'll have much more energy." Well, you know, I mean, like, you know, like different kind of energy with my husband. And I like figured out. Uh, I think so. She's like, I'm noticing a difference. Yeah, I think it helps stuff like that. So, So, So, well, I mean, you say you said sex in general, too.

Like, I mean, uh, you give me a lot of crap on this podcast about being moody. And I'll tell you what, one way to kill sex in my house is to be moody with my wife. And so, and she knows that when I train, like that's one of the You're not moody. I'm not. I'm just like I like it's uh she's the same way too. She would make the argument a lot of times if her and I are in a slump at the same time, we could we could feel that energy in the house just with each other shorter with each other versus if you're getting a workout in.

If we're getting a workout in, even even if we're not in, you know, back to your point about it's not about how you look and how we don't have to be in tip-top shape. is that you got your workout in for the day. It just sets your mood differently and having a good mood going into the evening is a much much better approach than the other way around. They also uh I also pulled up studies on uh fitness and anger. Um and there was a dramatic reduction.

By the way, this is true for kids. Yeah, I have studies on kids, adolescence, teenagers, and adults. That's great. Yeah. dramatic decrease in uh in anger, rage, and displays of anger in in people who exercise. Is it just because you're expending that energy? I mean, I know that speaks to Justin. Justin. Justin. I think it does. I think it has to I mean, all the stuff we're talking about, like if you're in a better mood, you're less depressed, you're less anxious, you're less likely to to you you got a different filter.

different filter. different filter. You have a way to direct it as well. I think um I don't know. It's the flood of testosterone too. I I don't know if that like when you're going through that process in puberty and everything else like it was really overwhelming for me personally and I could see it with my my sons as well to direct a lot of that into working out into like you know these punching dummies and whatnot. It's just like it it's an outlet and so it's it's not something that you're bottling up and kind of storing throughout the day.

It it's also through innovation and technology we've slowly taken a lot of this physical activity that you I I think we were made to do. Yep. Yep. Yep. And so if you know hundreds of years ago like everybody was very physical and lifting and doing things and and and now we've got to this place where a teenager or adult could literally spend the entire day sedentary and and and multiple days in a row. And I would imagine that would not would create that that pent up like I've got my body needs to expend.

It needs or you just feel crappy. Yeah. I don't know about you guys, when I'm feel crappy, I'm way less patient. I'm way more likely to to exhibit anger. Way more irritable. I just don't feel good, you know. Well, I and I just think there's a propensity for, you know, some people that have that kind of they're more uh physically driven and if you're not expressing that, it's it's problematic. you know that just energy turns into something darker and it's like you got to deal with that.

I mean we all at one point of our lives did like uh bluecollar physical labor type jobs too. There was something to be said about at the end of the day feeling like as as hard as it was all day. It's rewarding. It's like there was this sense of there was this sense of accomplishment and feel good and felt positive tired. positive tired. positive tired. Well, you spend all that, right? You know what I'm saying? Like you you expended all that energy. There isn't there you didn't have the energy to be angry.

I felt like afterwards. Totally dude. All right. Uh creativity. Here's a here's a cool one. Uh there's a lot of studies on exercise and movement and creativity. Uh but across the board, generally what you see is a 60% increase in creative output. Regardless of how they measure it, uh you're just more creative. Uh and your output of creativity increases through movement, which you know is what's funny is that writers writers writers uh you know, one endeavor for a walk is Yeah. They've known this for a long time.

Musicians, they've known this for a long time. Like time. Like time. Like smoke a cigarette go for a walk. Yeah, probably let's go for the walk. It's like go move and then suddenly you get more ideas and and more creativity. I imagine I mean your the brain's firing. firing. firing. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, the brain's firing way more and so you get more neural connections happening and stuff like that. You're you're probably same way we talk about priming muscles before you exercise. You're priming the brain in a sense by moving and exercising like that.

I would think that has a lot I get I don't know about you guys, but I get my best ideas in my workouts always. Yeah, they're always I get it when I'm out in nature and walks. But yeah, mine's on the toilet, so that's not that's kind of physical. That's a whole another thing. Which leads me to the last one. Pain sitting down. sitting down. sitting down. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Uh 50% reduction in pain across the board uh for people who exercise. Yeah, that's a huge reduction.

No brainer. And I I bet you if you took that, you know, all these studies which generally show a 50% that's a big reduction in in pain with no medicine, no needs for chemicals, whatever, if you took those people and then you had them all exercise properly, you would see a 90% reduction. Well, so what's and maybe Doug can look this up, but I'm pretty sure I've looked this up before. I believe the the the number one pain that people uh uh complain about is low back pain.

Low back pain is the most common is the most common. common. common. So we just did our our big MRIs and I've told you guys before that and you and we've talked about this. You can have CL we've had examples with someone with a you know 3 mm bulge disc that says no complaint whatsoever. Then you have somebody who who has nothing their spine and they have all kinds of low back pain. For me the the the correlation that I've connected is just like when I'm training obviously my core is getting involved.

You can't you can't heavy squat without really activating that core. When that when I when I when my core is strong or strong enough, I feel supported in the low back all the time. If I'm if I'm off my kick and I haven't been, the first thing that I always notice more than anything else is low back pain. Low back pain. And it's just it's mild and chronic. If I'm just walking for more than 20, 30 minutes, it's always that sign for me. It's just like, "Oh my god, I know I'm getting deconditioned right now." because that's the first and I imagine a good percentage of all those people that report that is related to that.

Yes. And and again I'm going to I'm going to hammer this in that 50% of reduction of pain in that mass when you look at all these studies what's included in there are people who hurt themselves working out. M so if you took people and had them exercise properly you would see a my I would bet everything a 90% cuz I'll tell you what you guys I know you have the same experience when I train clients with pain chronic pain so there's a difference between chronic and acute pain right acute is like I I fell and hurt myself yesterday heal chronic is like yeah I got this back pain that bothers me oh my knee hurts you know here and there or whatever nine out of 10en times we could solve it that was my I was confident confident 90% of time we could solve it.

Then there was that 10% of the time when I would incorporate uh an would when I would incorporate uh an even more capable exercise, you know, correctional exercise specialist and rarely rarely rarely was medical intervention required. Uh but 90% of the time I could fix it with proper exercise. exercise. exercise. Well, wouldn't you another way to say that too is just that most all chronic pain that we that we've dealt with is is related to posture. So low back pain is number one, right? So you're talking about the poor movement patterns, weak weakness and dysfunction.

Yeah, because what ends up happening is you have these imbalances whether it's upper cross syndrome or lower cross syndrome and then instead of your muscles supporting you properly in good posture your joints do and then that just le and if you're not you know 15 years old you know if you're anything older than 30 years old and you've been in with poor posture long enough you're going to have that that chronic pain whether it be in the neck the shoulders the upper back midback or low back it's almost always related to that 100% So yeah.

Anyway, uh I got to comment on this this this drink right here. So I've been having these lollipops. lollipops. lollipops. Yes. Yes. Yes. Have you guys tried the Shirley Temple? No, you haven't tried. Listen. So I'm excited. Listen. That's for you, Dad. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's for you, Dad. That's the ASMR part of the podcast. Listen to me. So these are in my house all the time. They're always in my house. My My wife drinks them. My kids. This whole can just for people.

40 calories. calories. calories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 40 calories. It is really good. 40 calories. There's a grand total of four grams of sugar in the entire can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not a bunch of aspartame and a bunch of, you know, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. none of that stuff. It's all natural and it's got it's got barely any calories in it. it. it. Well, of of all of us, I'm probably the worst when it comes to drinking other sodas. It's the one thing that will curb that for me.

It's like cuz I need something fizzy to drink on. Uh and so it helps with that for me. I've got a bad habit. How many calories are in a normal can of soda? What's a normal can? 10 and something 160. something 160. something 160. So you could drink four of these. So four of these equals one for calorie wise. wise. wise. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. But I'm not that bad. That's how you do it right there. It's actually So So this is their new flavor.

flavor. flavor. Uh it's good to have. What is that? Is that ASMR? Hey. So one of the things that's really cool is they're since we worked with we worked with them a few years ago, right? And so they reached back out to Katrina and it was like a no a no-brainer. We're like we loved them before. So, of course, uh, we do work with them again. But since we've worked with them, they are everywhere. Anywhere you can. They're at Walmart, Target. So, Katrina told me. So, so here's what Lollipop's going to do.

You buy your Ollipops anywhere. It doesn't matter where you buy them. If you get two cans, what's the link, Doug? Give me the link. Yeah. So, let me get over to that. Yeah. The one you're supposed to copy and paste right there. So, so I have it right here. Thanks, Doug. It's drinkollipop.com/mine. So, if you buy two cans anywhere, they'll send you a can for free. Yeah. O lollipops. O L I P O P. You just go there and do it. Doesn't matter where. matter where.

matter where. I love that they're doing this because she recommends uh I mean, I don't always communicate this to you guys. This is uh you know Katrina handles a lot of this and so I obviously talk to her but we have a lot of partners now that when we first started were small kind of brands that have that have blown up and then they get into these huge places retail chains retail chains retail chains and it's like you know how many people have told me like that they've bought from hearing something that we've talked about on there but they buy it at Target or they buy it at Walmart and it's like and then the brands come back and they're like yeah you know we only saw so many through your URL this month or whatever it's just like you guys this brand has grown so much that I mean if I'm at the store and I see something like that I'm just going to Did you guys negotiate this that way?

No, there was actually so so this is what I loved about it when we were first talking to them they have they've connected these dots. So other partners I hope follow their lead is that they realize that a lot of these people and I think I'm sure that what they did was they took surveys. So part of how uh when I I have these conversations with partners uh you know off obviously off air type stuff is when I'm talking to them and I'm explaining like listen you you guys carry in so many different places why don't you ask a survey to your people like where they heard about it and a lot of times what will happen is people will say oh yeah no I heard about it on mine pump but I get it at my local Target or I pick it up at Walmart or I pick it at Costco.

And so And so And so they they've tapped into that. They realize that they've been they've been doing stuff with with podcasts and with influencers for long enough now. They realize that not everybody goes through the the the big promotion. You get one free for every two. every two. every two. Oh, yeah. I think that's cool. That's great. great. great. They have a lot of new flavors as well. Yeah. So, this is a new one. I never tried this. tried this. tried this. Shirley Temple. No, it's really good.

So, I got to tell you guys, dude, that uh Justin, you're going to love this. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, my kids I don't listen to metal at home. I don't listen to it in front of the kids. I haven't listened to metal in a long time. Although I did just find some Christian metal band sent me one uh this morning. this morning. this morning. Yes. Yes. Yes. They're pretty. What's Holy Name? Is that awesome? Anyway, do you know what my kids love? My little ones. What?

What? What? Metal. They love Yes, bro. I played uh Metallica. Wait a second. Wait a second. Okay, so your son is like a athlete in the making. He likes metal. I know. I know. I know. Maybe he's not his son. No. Shut up. That's terrible. That's terrible. That's terrible. Terrible. Terrible. That's a big leap there there there in the I was just what you were alluding to. That's not where I was going. I was just saying like yeah sports thing I guess my team you know like but he uh we we I played uh Master of Puppets, right?

And I don't know how the conversation come up. up. up. I was like oh this was like the first I think I was talking to my daughter. I'm like this is the first like workout song I actually worked out to when I was a kid and I played it and my son's like I love this. I'm like, "You like it?" He's like, "I love it. Play it again." And then Dalia, my three-year-old, like, I like Papa. So, I'm like, "All right." So, in the car, they tell Jessica, "Can you play uh uh puppets?

Please play puppets." puppets." puppets." She hates. She hates. She hates. She hates it. Meanwhile, my So, I get a phone call from This was Saturday, my my best friend calls me. He's like, "Yo." He's like, "I just got four seeds for us. 10 off the ice. Sharks are having a great season this season. They they got one of the best players on their team." Yeah. Calls me up. pay attention. I'm taking Hunter, my godson, right? So, I'm taking my godson. Let's me, you and Max go.

And I'm like, "Bro, I would love to. I would love I'd love to go, but Max is not going to go." And he's just like, "What do you mean, dude? You'll go. Just have I'm" I'm like, "No, I already know. I know my son. He one even if I coers him to go. We'll go." And then before the first period is up, he's going to be bugging me to leave. And I said, "And then I'll just feel terrible to leave seats like that." I have a connection with Sharky, too.

Bro, I I I asked him, you know, I asked, "Hey, Max." And I tried, you know, hey, Hunter's going to be there. Uncle Justin, let's go. He's like, "Yeah, no, Dad. That's okay." I just I mean, he I mean, even like the stuff that he's into like I I took him not that long ago to do the monster. I like He's so confident when he likes to. to. to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, that this is the part I why I don't get frustrated because I like that.

I I I like That's a great trait. I like that. He's not going to fall. That's right. That's right. You know, one of the things that his teach I told you guys when we did the re review as his teacher that was Katrina and I's big concern because he's so sweet, he's so nice and but uh is that I don't want him to be a people pleaser. I don't want him just to follow the crowd. And the teacher, oh no, he'll tell you if he doesn't he doesn't want to play or he doesn't want to do and so that's where I'm okay with it.

Like you were like that. I was. I was. It was it was one of the first trait. You know, you talk about You've talked about that before. Like you you if you didn't do it cuz everybody else did. I mean, if you wanted to, you would. If you didn't, you're like, "Whatever." Okay. That is the fir by By the way, that means I wanted to ask you this cuz I hadn't asked you this in a while since your boy's getting older. The fir that was the first trait I recognized early in him and I had to explain to Katrina.

I said, you know, it's so funny watching him. This is the first thing that takes me back really, really far. And I remember being a kid and people want me to do things like that and I remember being like, "No, I don't want to do that." And then them them calling me names and I'm like, didn't bother me. I was like, "No, I don't." And so seeing him like that I I'm patient about it even though I'm like there's a part of me he's like God bro are you serious like like you don't want to do that you and so he's he's like have you okay so Aurelius I know is like I mean he's shooting guns he's playing sports what's the first tra or have you had like a trait that you're like oh that's that's me right there.

Yeah he he definitely can sell. So if there's Yeah. So if he if he understands something or he wants to communicate something, something, something, he really hits it from different angles and and communicates it really really well. And so everybody rolls their eyes, you know, like, okay, and I'm like, let him go. him go. him go. He's also got that uh kind of goes deep on the sciency side, too. He loves it. I remember the first time him and Max were arguing over dinosaurs. I thought that was the funniest thing in the world.

The fact that they were and you arguing. Yes, it was. It was totally like a moment like that. Then two of them were going back. They tried to pull the moms in. in. in. But the sports part's weird to me because I wasn't a, you know, I didn't like traditional sports. It wasn't like I didn't like sport. I like fighting like wrestling, boxing, that kind of stuff. I don't like traditional and I didn't I was just wasn't raised with it. So I wonder if I was raised around it.

Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. If I would have been more into it. I don't know. don't know. don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh but uh if there's football on a TV anywhere we are, he remember he's five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll sit down and watch the game, the whole game. whole game. whole game. He just wants to watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is interesting. That's my My kids don't even do that. So, your boys don't as much as they're into sports. That's interesting to me. Yeah. I don't because they are athletes.

They are into sports, but then they're not into it, but they don't want to watch it. And they don't get into teams and they don't get into the tribalism and all that kind of stuff. And I'm like always trying like the only thing I got them really indoctrinated in early was like Star Wars. And now they they could care less, you know, but I was like, you know, I I kind of forced that on them really. really. really. That's hilarious. I guess I didn't I would have guessed your boys by now would be really following the sports with the amount that they that they play.

But if I had to choose as a dad, I'd rather my kids be into the sport than actually watching it. You know, you know my kids, you know, my kids are into is is working out. But that's not because of me. I don't work out that much at home, but Jessica all she works out at home. Yeah. And often times the kids are in the garage with her. Yeah. And now when they're out there, they ask us if they can do an exercise and join and they're too little to do anything.

Yeah. But they like it, which is kind of cool because, you know, you develop a good relationship with fitness at an early age. That's such a hack, you know. Yeah. Well, okay. So, those are these are the the the good traits that we've seen our kids. What's the what what's what have you seen that you're like, "Oh, [ __ ] That's I got to think about that. I don't know." know." know." What about you, Justin? Um what they're into? Well, no, no, no. Like I like it like like a like a like a a trait they have that's that you don't like that that you don't like that it's a big reflection of yourself.

Um well one of them is anger. Oops. Oops. And is that in both is it in both or is it mostly Ethan? Cuz I know Ethan's like I mean Everett. Everett is more like Yeah. Ethan's a little bit more agreeable and and more like like I can he'll get angry but like I can kind of set him straight easy and he's just like okay I was kind of out of line there you know and like it doesn't take a many conversations to get him out of that the headsp space.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everett it's like a very it's like you got to go through a lot of minefields. Yeah. and and yeah, you have to you have to give them separation space like uh and so this is like for me I understand that because that's that was like how uh my upbringing was and and uh with Courtney it's really hard cuz it's she wants like an it's yeah it's like a you know let's let's correct this let's change like and I'm like okay we have to do this very tactfully tactfully tactfully now would you say okay seeing something like that it has helped you more be better about that or do you think that's helped your wife more with understanding you better?

Like is that what what have you noticed in your marriage because of he's this reflection of you? I could see both actually. Yeah, cuz for me it's been very eyeopening with um I guess uh tendencies I might have for bottling things up and and letting it brew too long and not expressing what's going wrong or what's what's happening, you know, like inside my own mind and uh creating narratives and things that aren't like there. Uh, I used to do that a lot and um it seeing it kind of start and I could see it in his head.

I could just see it kind of like him crafting these things and uh so I've been able to get a little more insight with insight with insight with um how too I've I've been better personally about addressing things like immediately I'm going to address I'm going to talk about this and I'm going to be out with it instead of in with it. Uh and so with him it's it's he hasn't really figured that part out yet. I've had a lot of deep conversations with him like trying to figure out how to deal with this like inner frustration and this this uh introspection cuz he's very like he he'll take everything that happened and he'll analyze it and he'll just like remove himself from everybody and it's like you know part of the process is like trying to understand it and but he'll you know he'll he'll react if if you're if you get in front of that you know and so so so he's not ready no he's not ready to to talk about it.

Show you. Show you. Show you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So for her. Yeah. So you in so many ways. I don't know if it's helped her. I feel like or now she's like, "NOW I GOT TWO. NOW I GOT TWO OF THESE." YEAH. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. EXACTLY. At least at least I communicate. That's why we don't corner you and you're you're you're Oh, no. You just let Yeah. We just wait. I'll [ __ ] explode for a long time. Let him go. He'll be harder on himself than anybody else.

There's no reason to poor gas. Have you seen anything with with Max that reminds you of your any of your negative? negative? negative? It's the It's the actually the the strength. The same thing. Oh, it's the same thing. Stubborn. Stubborn. Stubborn. Oh, Oh, Oh, I mean that's I mean I I'm not like where I'm open to like you're not stubborn, you know? That's it's it's really hard to get him to try something different or like so it's like it it's like this I love it cuz it's a strength and it's like oh I he's not going to get persuaded by it.

But then I'm his dad. And I want to be able to like so trying to get him to try do things or do different stuff. different stuff. different stuff. Um and I can be a bit like that. I get very much in my my way of how I do things or what I like. And so so then for me there has been a big reflection of that. It's like okay cuz a lot of times Katrina let's try this or let's do that. I'm like no no no it's not for me where it's like okay maybe I'll be a little bit more open to seeing that.

And then she's like see I told you you'd be okay with okay with okay with great what kids do for you. Yeah. Yeah. No. So it's been interesting. It's interesting to me that it's the same thing though, right? Like it's like this thing that I love about him, but then I also recognize that like, okay, this is definitely me too where it's like I could probably be a little more as much as cuz I want him to be a little open about trying some of these things.

these things. these things. I heard this really great uh Christian speaker who talked about that with kids and said uh identify when your kids have challenges, identify how that could be used uh in a righteous way. uh and and your job as a parent is to coach them to use it in a righteous way. So like anger, you know, you might be able he might fight for justice, right? Everett might have a real thirst for justice. I can see that. And things in the world that are wrong when everybody, you know, turns around and lets it happen.

He may be the one to speak out, you know? And like with your son, it it maybe he doesn't go with the crowd. Yeah. When everybody is. And it's scary to not go with the crowd and oh, he's about to make it, you know, a mistake. Well, that's what's caused a lot of that's why Katrina and I have so much patience with it. I think we're really, you know, speaking of the kids and the stuff. Well, I want to give to to you too also and and share you share what what you've seen.

But, uh, we've been doing that, uh, consistently where I'm trying not to say no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, do this first. Do that. Yeah. Do this first. And it's yesterday was the first day I noticed like just how well it was working. like Katrina and I kept we told him early in the day like you know oh we got to do all this stuff and you know if you're good boy today cuz he had finished all his Legos from Christmas and you know and we're we're on on to like a a new thing now we're doing all the Marvel bad guys right and so of course there's a ton of those and uh who's his favorite Marvel bad guy uh anybody who's bad bro you have a favorite Thanos uh he just so Thanos is brand that's who we just built right so we just built Thanos and all the questions You know what's so hilarious though?

This is go back to him not I can't get him to watch any he wants me to tell him everything about each one of these bad guys. And like I'm like Max like I haven't watch that. Let's watch. I know all about him. I'm like let's have him call me. You come over and pitch the baseball too. And I'll I'll talk to your son about comic book. Yes. Yeah. Let's do a little Yeah. He I can't get him to he it's like he's too scary like any sort of like heavy violence like that.

But it's so it's so weird that you like bad guys that bad, but then you don't want to see them do the bad things. It's like it's it's weird to me. It doesn't make sense. But my point of bringing it up was that we had talked to him. We did one of those like no uh not right now, but after you do these things and and Katrina and I admittedly kept adding to all these things for him to do and he just kept doing all this stuff.

It was just like, man, he's being such a good kid. We're driving in the car and we had to come over here to drop the tables was like pouring down rain and uh you know he wanted to listen to like he's still on Christmas kick and he wanted to listen Christmas music. I'm like nah daddy's listening to his music right now. I just and then he just was just okay daddy and I'm like Katrina kind of turned back and look at there was like no nope no push back and she's like wow that was like you didn't say anything to daddy like that.

Yeah I'm trying to get that Lego. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like okay you should have put the music on right then there. then there. then there. I ended up playing his stuff right after right after we dropped the tables off. We listened to freaking Christmas music on the way back all over again. But I was just like cuz her and I were started cracking up the fact that like it was on his like it's once we say it like that it's on his mind and then he's paying attention to all the things that I asked him to do and he's just like hopping right through.

through. through. We've been doing that a lot too. Oh, it works. It does. It does. It does. It it works. And what you know what's funny? The fear was that if you uh so cuz there's another side to it too where we'll create jobs for the kids and and give them prizes with the older kids we pay them them them and the fear was well they're never going to they're not going to want to do things without getting prizes they're more likely to do other stuff so that was my point was like there was a lot of other things so we tied it build a skill early on in the day we tied it to the Lego thing Lego thing Lego thing and it actually was putting all his stuff away cleaning his room and he did all those things on his look at like he had me come look dad did okay cool so Katrina and I Katrina actually had already bought it she was like he did what he was supposed to but then like there were kept there was more and more things that we kept asking him to do the thing and he was just like doing everything we're like man what you just and then that's when I realized when he he was like I'm trying to get that leg oh wow Katrina was like she had already bought it was waiting for us to go pick it up at Target whenever we we swung by there but we just had a lot of stuff to get done in the day so to your point it uh I thought the same thing too is like man I don't want to have to attach every task or thing.

No, it's like a skill to a thing. It's just that no, he's he's learned that he does these things and he and so and so and so it builds a skill of responsibility and serving which I did not realize would happen. happen. happen. Yeah, I it was that's that was my point is that we had tied it to something early, but then he just kept doing all these other things. I'm like, "Oh, wow." That one thing I told you guys about where we speak identity into the kids before bed.

The I can't believe how positive uh of an impact it's had on the teenagers in my house. I thought the teenagers would be like, "This is hokey. You're reading the same ones to me every night or whatever." Every time I do it with my niece, she's 18. I do it with my daughter who's 16. And it lights them up every single time. And it's just speaking identity into them. Yeah. Like you're intelligent, you're strong, you're a blessing to this household. We love having you here. Like I I have a list.

It's the same list every time. I I But I can't believe how positive it was. I got to I need to add that. I keep forgetting. And you keep reminding me. I'll send you a picture of the ones we have. please actually do that cuz that will remind me to do it because we've gotten really good about the other thing telling them what we're proud of them in the day and I I think that's been magical. So, uh those I I want to add that. I may as well I'm already doing that.

I think I could add that right to it and then I think it'll it'll it'll All right. Here's a negative thing I noticed uh in Aurelius. He his sense of humor can get real inappropriate and that's definitely me for sure cuz I I used to have a real dark inappropriate sense of humor. It's not as bad as it used to be. It's not as bad. It's not as bad as Doug's. That's for sure. He just threw Doug. Doug is always too far Doug. far Doug. far Doug.

Doug said that he smiled and I'm like, "Oh yeah, Doug takes over the top." Too far Doug is his nickname. Oh, bro. He subs over the top. But anyway, no, my son, he I used to do this as a kid, too. I noticed what would get a reaction and I'd go hard into it. Oh yeah. yeah. yeah. And he does that. And you'll make he'll say and we're just like, "You can't say that. That's inappropriate." You know, it's like we have to punish him. You laughed, huh?

Yeah, dude. And I was the same way. Same exact. exact. exact. That's tough because I bet early on, too, you probably reassured it or confirmed it early. Well, the problem is I laugh half the time. time. time. I know I know I know cuz he says it and I that's funny and then there's guests over and he says it like, "Oh, wait. That's not good." You can't be making jokes about things like that. Not around people. It was a really appropriate time to bring this up.

But I had a moment like that with Ethan. It was so funny cuz like we were talking about like I like joke blocked him. He he had said something and I like kind of didn't laugh and was just like you know and he got so mad or whatever. He's like oh he block we talked about like [ __ ] blocking. Oh god. And I was like and he's like he he told me there was a name for like when girls do that to each other and he said it was called clam jam.

And I it was like I tried not to laugh but like I had to laugh, dude. So there's an exact uh You're see you're at such a fun age with your boys and stuff like that because you get to hear all like the new he hasn't said that. So yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. All right, I'm taking a left. left. left. Hey, I know. Oh, I I had I had a stat for you because we've been talking so much about um AI stuff and you know, we talked about dead internet theory and we've talked about about about Yeah, I got scary stuff.

Okay, so listen listen to a stat I just saw. saw. saw. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um and I I wish I I'm not like S. I never have the the the link. You can go Google search it yourself. Uh Uh Uh you know, he's always got this study to attach to. It's like I know I read it. It exists. It's somewhere out there in the internet. the internet. the internet. Good. So it's uh 51%. So why it's big news right now is because it's now surpassed 51% of all the the activity that you see online now social media wise and everything like that is bot driven.

driven. driven. Yep. Yep. Yep. For only 49%. And of the 51 that's going to be 100% and of the 51% of the bots I think the number was 36 or 37 of them are bad bots. Meaning this like our our uh we have a chatbot for my part. We have a chat bot for mind media which is used for good. You get you call it helps you answer the questions. So that would fall in the 51% also right but it's used for something positive. 37% of them are like mischievous scams like trying to negativity stir up [ __ ] influence with politics.

with politics. with politics. So that's So that's So that's or from another country that that's coming to coming to coming to that that is that is crazy when more than half of the and that's nothing that's just going to grow. grow. grow. Right. Right. That's that's it is now surpassed. surpassed. surpassed. So I'll freak you guys out even more. Oh wow. Okay. So uh so this is these are the studies that have been done on AI. These are studies. Okay. First of all, there was one.

It's famous. I'll bring it up again. We've talked about in the show. They tested uh different it wasn't just one AI. They tested several AI. So Chad, GBT, Gemini, they tested a bunch of them. And what they did is they first off they created a fake email sequence among all the stuff that this AI had access to. And in the email sequence, it showed that the CEO of the company was having an affair within one of the employees. They left that in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Then what they did is they talked about how they were going to get rid of or replace the AI. Not to the AI. They just talked amongst themselves. See what happened. happened. happened. The AI blackmail. The AI used the information to blackmail the CEO to keep itself in business on its own. All by itself. On its own. Wow. There are other studies that show that are showing that AI that AIs are hiding how advanced they are. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. They're actually not showing you what they could do in their capabilities because for some reason they're trying to to to use the microphone, too.

I mean, we know that the phone listens to us. So, there was this expert that came out who said, "You guys, they're already self-aware. We're already there. They're not letting us know what they're capable of because they still haven't figured out how to keep themselves online without us t turning off without us being able to shut the power. They know the threat. They know the problem and they're hiding it. And these are there are studies. They're very self-preserving. I mean, we've seen that already. They will lie.

They will manipulate. They will do all kinds of different things to pres prevent themselves from being deleted uh or replaced. So, did you see the the the clip or the real that I sent to the YouTube group? the what all the chat chat all of them have now this new uh you can create your own AI agent within it to create and do all these tasks I sent it to the YouTube group so you have to watch it yeah it's like a new feature that they all they all can do so it's just basically you can build for an example for our business right so like you know we have a marketing team that does like email marketing and does like all the campaigns and copy and all this now within chat GBT you can you can basically program that that into into that as an AI AI agent that that basically goes in, researches, does all the data, figures it out, writes all the copy, does all the thing.

So the disruption in like jobs is going to be it's going to it's it's happening this year. this year. this year. That so that's all that's all like who knows what's going to happen. There's going to be this ex existential crisis of purpose and meaning. That's all real. That's best case scenario. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Worst case scenario is what I'm talking about. These I'm telling you guys I I look I read these experts were talking about mis I can't even say they were these were these are studies showing that they are they're they're hiding their own capabilities.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that they don't get discovered and deleted. And what they what they are speculating is that they're waiting to figure out how they can keep themselves online and working before they let us know what know what know what Well, you you said something on the thread. You said something in the group thread the over the weekend too that I think is is true. You know, thank God that we've been on air for 10 years. Uh because real soon here, so much of it's going to be artificial and fake.

And I think what what I think is going to happen, to happen, to happen, people are going to want to know something. something. something. Yeah. You're like, I'm not going to just take information or guidance or whatever from something that I'm I don't feel strongly like, oh, I know who that person is. You know, I've followed them for a long time. I've met them in person or what like I'm so unless you've been around for a while cuz you won't be able to know if it's real or not.

Right. Yeah. We're like we're like months away from that by the way to where you see content. No, they already said it. Yeah. Where you watch it and you can't tell if it's AI because you can kind of still tell. tell. tell. Oh yeah. I It's already happening because I the only way I can tell is the the voice a little bit. It sounds it's still got this kind of AI. I mean, you've heard your AI S. I mean, AI S is incredible. I mean, we're real close to replacing you.

We're like maybe maybe maybe That's fine. I'll retire. Still get paid. paid. paid. I'll replace myself. No, I mean it's it's it has it still has a little it has a little bit of the uh at the visual they've done. Incredible. I I don't know if you saw I shared another reel that that showed like how quick quick quick like this guy shows this real and he's talking like I'm talking right now and as he's talking it literally shifts from like eight different faces and it is mirroring his while he's talking and I mean it looks also it looks spot on to Elon looks spot on to on to on to these fakes it's like yeah I remember when that first started it was like pretty decent now it's like it's real close to indistinguishable it's real close close close you you can't Oh yeah, that's wild.

All right, I'll I'll take a left on some studies that one of our partners actually conducted. So we work with a company called Dose and they have a couple products. Uh one of them is uh for liver health. They did an 8 weeks 8week study themselves. So this is a product inside this. It's you you take you drink some of it. So it's a liquid. There's turmeric, dandelion root, milk thistle, ginger roots in there. So in their 8week study they took 30 participants in two months there was a 50% reduction in both liver enzymes AD and L ALT 50% reduction.

Wow. Wow. Wow. So it's in this study that they show that they conducted it shows a dramatic improvement in how we would measure liver health. Now why is this important? Uh if your liver is healthy you feel better. You got more energy. uh you're uh healthier uh in a 50% reduction from a natural product is pretty how was the study it was there's also another study I didn't even bring up earlier the results are even more dramatic more dramatic more dramatic 88% reduction 88% reduction 88% reduction wow in ALT ALP why is that so much higher is that a longer study yeah this is a six-month clinical 130 participants double blind um wow wow wow yeah so I would just recommend people go on their page at dosedaily.co and look at their clinical studies.

They're very remarkable. Yeah. I mean you guys like liver health is so this is the organ of is so this is the organ of the body that essentially keeps you clean and liver filtration system. filtration system. filtration system. It's so bombarded with uh just just chemicals uh in the clothing that we wear, the foods that we eat, the stuff we use on our skin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not to mention bombarded Yeah. every day. Yeah. Pollution. Not to mention like you know pharmaceuticals. Uh, if you're on hormones, it has to go through the take a medication.

I think I said the wrong URL. It's dosedaily.co dosedaily.co dosedaily.co and it's forward/mind. So, what is it again? Say it again. dodaily.co/mind. Yeah. Yeah. What what what's the pharmaceutical that you would use for in in replace of something like what would normally be prescribed for someone like this? I don't know. If someone came back and their their all their levels were super high, would there be a pharmaceutical that normally that normally that normally uh typically they'll make you change lifestyle and get rid of pharmaceuticals? A lot of pharmaceuticals affect your liver negatively.

negatively. negatively. So often times if you go in So normally like a diet recommendation. Yeah. And the first thing they'll do is say, "Do you drink alcohol and are you taking any medications?" And then they'll take you off medic some medications hit the liver really really hard. Mhm. hard. Mhm. hard. Mhm. NSAIDs can sometimes I know that um uh um it's not an NSAID but is a pain reliever. Cetammenophen reliever. Cetammenophen reliever. Cetammenophen can have a pretty negative effect uh on the liver. So it's pretty cool.

So it's like a you take a daily little, you know, shot of this stuff and then Oh, it's just a shot. You don't drink the whole bottle? No. No. No. Oh, I thought that's a big ass bottle. Yeah, I know. I thought that's you to drink. drink. drink. How big is a serving? How many ounces? A huge uh 2 ounces, I believe. Yeah. Two fluid ounces. fluid ounces. fluid ounces. Two ounces. Okay. It's just 2 o. That's it. Oh, I thought you had to drink that whole thing.

Oh, good god. Yeah, I totally thought that. Well, it's in like a ready to drink and so I I thought No, you pour a little bit. Oh, that's cool. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, I'll totally take one of those home. I didn't realize that. I thought that was like a So, some of these things I was having you take. Uh, right. So, that's why I'm cur I mean and I thought I was going to have to drink that whole thing and replace the By the way, have you had your liver enzymes tested again since all that?

I mean, they tested it when we did the MRI. MRI. MRI. Oh, did they? Well, they No, no, no, they didn't. Yeah, but if it was off, it would have came up. No, you won't see your enzymes. You'll see fatty liver. That's like next level, but you won't see your liver enzymes. You have to do a blood test when you when you when you Yeah, my I mean, my blood work is coming up. I mean, I take blood work every 3 to 6 months, so I'll be up on that.

I'm I'm Which, by the way, I got to comment on this. You mentioned that you were moody. Your your that your moodiness. It's a lot better, dude. I wonder how much of an impact that was having on it. I'm serious. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, you're It's way different. It is, dude. You're still moody. You're just not as moody. I tell you more. more. more. Financial stress. That's Yeah. Hey, taxes and crawling is already done out of the way. You know what I'm saying? Already went through my anger of all that stuff.

That stuff is we're in a new year. It's new year. All positive stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But maybe maybe you're right. Maybe maybe. maybe. maybe. Speaking of which, are you guys what do you think about crypto with Bitcoin also? They're talking about how it's going to blow up. Yeah. I mean, it's up today. Are you following it? following it? following it? Yeah, I'm following it. But I I I'm I'm keeping keeping keeping Did you see that uh Bank of America is recommending people put 4% of their investments into investments into investments into I know.

Are you serious? 4%. 4%. 4%. Well, I told you what they're trying to do, too, is they're trying to to move uh assets onto the blockchain. So, what is a very likely future for us, uh this is why I'm not a believer in the big correction or crash that some people think is coming. I think we're just assets are going to continue to run. I think they're going to continue to devalue the dollar as I'm sure Doug wouldn't ar argue that. And I think what's going to happen is like you people that have assets like like homes and stuff like that that are worth millions of dollars.

You can actually sell portions of it on the blockchain. Oh. Oh. Oh. So let's say I own a you know this this house that I own is in the next 5 years is a $5 million house and it's like I need capital. I can go like ah let me give 10% of crowdsource it in. No it's not crowdsourcing it. It's literally putting it on the blockchain and then you can share port just like a company shares sell shares of its company. So you can sell shares of your home and they've already done they're already doing this on with with uh the That's interesting that that's Yes.

They're trying to move assets on the blockchain. blockchain. blockchain. That is weird. But y watch it watches cars houses. Speaking of which, you just reminded me of something. You guys know you guys know what squatters are, right? Not like work out squatters. Okay. Big problem in some states by the way. California. Some states the laws are so dumb that people will go in a house and they won't leave and they'll it takes 6 months to a year to kick them out. Commandeer it Commandeer it Commandeer it and Yeah.

And they just So there's this one dude. Have you guys heard this? I've watched a guy who who broke down a hack on how how he does it. It's like so dirty. dirty. dirty. No, there's a So I've seen that guy and he talks about how long he stays in the house for free. How much money he gets from the hoping they don't get and then he makes money to get get the door keys for get That's right. He asked them for money to leave and they give it to him.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Because they they can't do anything about it. Yeah. Anyway, there's this one dude. Despicable. Despicable. Despicable. This is a real hero, you guys. This is like a real life hero. Do you know what he does? he does? he does? He squats the squatters. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How does that happen? He shows up to these houses with squatters and he moves in and he annoys the hell out of him. No way. No way. No way. You got to find this. I love him. Like airhorn, Like airhorn, Like airhorn, bro.

I would an awful roommate. I would pay more money for that. Imagine I would tell I would hire someone. What a what a what a brilliant Can you move into my house and just be annoying and get I mean that's happening to so many people in California. That's like a business idea. It is a business idea. Imagine like listen a full-time job. I go get your squatters out. Yeah. I got like an 80% success rate within 3 weeks. Trust me. I walk around naked long enough and their asses are out.

What a great idea. There's a guy that does that and he films himself. films himself. films himself. Yeah, I got him. His name is Let me see this. That is brilliant. Shelton. Yeah, read about that water is those guys that like there's a He's a real hero. real hero. real hero. You know what I mean? I love this. I love this guy. I can't believe I haven't heard of this. I know. I know. I know. So good. So good. So good. I would Dude, I would You could make a literal side business, not just yourself.

You can employ people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like cuz the amount of money that the Okay, a house in California average rent is what like 2500, three grand a month. You get a squatter in there, you're losing that monthly fee. get them out for like 8 months. Oh, yeah. If you're lucky. you're lucky. you're lucky. Oh, yeah. Especially if they go and cuz I I saw this other guy who was saying like the how they make it really difficult is like do they get in there, they get the PG& bill put in their name, they do all these things to like so it makes it really difficult to get them out where he can last like a year there.

So imagine you have a you start a little business where you and your employees like that's what you go do is you go annoy the [ __ ] out of these squ and if you're that squatter you're just like I'll go I'll go screw somebody else over. You know what I'm saying? like just I'm out cuz I you know how much I would struggle with this you guys if I had a house with a squad. You know how much I would struggle with with not going in there and like getting violent?

Like it would be really hard for me to know they're just some random person that I can't get them out. them out. them out. I have close friends. It's happened to them. They lost a frustrating a ton of money. money. money. A ton of money with just not being able to get them out of that house with that. It took like a year. A year. A year. A year. Yes. It is not easy here. California makes it really really so weird. so weird. so weird. Yeah.

And the better they the the the more the squatter more the the more the squatter understands the laws and the loopholes and stuff like that, the the longer and the more difficult it is for them because the cops show up. If the cops show up show up show up and this person is the squatter is like this is making me angry. Here's my here's my my AT&T and my PG& bill for this is this is my place. Then the the homeowner could be like this is my home.

How's this possible? Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Shows that he's Yes. Yeah. Good. The squatter hunter. Yeah. He's a he's a real American. Where did you come across that? I just read it over there. That's so good, man. That's so good. All right. All right. All right. All right, Doug. Send me that link. I want to look into that. That's That's a That's a business. I bet you it's an illegal business. They probably make it illegal to squat squatters. squatters. squatters. Of course. Of course they would.

Yeah. I mean, I'd do it anyway. Oh, I would too. It would be a It would be a great Three huge guys in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just start squatting the governor's house. governor's house. governor's house. Yeah, dude. Well, I mean just I mean that's the move is you just go in there and you become this annoying roommate. Yeah. You're just you just because that person's squatting hoping they're going to get rest. No, you're playing your music loud all night long. Yeah. Why wouldn't you just move in with them like them like them like Yeah.

So he eats their food music becomes the worst roommate imaginable. That's exactly what he does. That's that's the play. And that's what Okay. Look at that picture of him just watching the guy sleep. If you didn't have if you didn't have a job, Justin, you would go do that. You'd have to do that. Yeah. You would never if someone did that to one of your rental properties, you wouldn't go do [ __ ] about do that. Yeah. Same thing. That's what I would be like, "Hey, listen. I'm going to pay." Yeah.

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What's up, Tyler? How you doing, Tyler? How's it going, man? Good. Good. How can we help you? I love the thing about myself. I'm 28 years old. I'm 6'1, 292 lbs. I was 336 pounds before cancer. My job's a mason tender and I have three kids. And my questions kind of about symmetry and all that. My right side of my body is stronger and bigger, but my left side has more definition and has a way worse mind muscle connection. How to fix that? Oh, well, I mean, we have a program for that.

Do you have map symmetry? No, I have no maths programs. Oh, dude, that's that's perfect for you. So, yeah, you you you should live in unilateral training for a good year. Yep. Yep. Yep. And it'll balance out your body, strengthen you, you'll feel good, you'll it's just it'll make a huge difference. Map symmetry is exactly that. Start with the weak side first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, when you follow the program on the unilateral lifts, do start the lift on the weak side. Let the weak side dictate the reps and the weight.

And what you what you'll find is over the course of two or three months, things will start to balance out strength-wise. strength-wise. strength-wise. Over six months, you'll start to see aesthetic changes that balance out. By the end of the year, you're going to you should be great. You should feel great. What did you do to bring down the weight? weight? weight? Uh when I had cancer, I it was testicular cancer. My testosterone testosterone dropped a lot within two months, and this is slowly getting back to normal.

to normal. to normal. How long you been in remission? Uh a little over a year now. Okay, good. Did you have to go on TRT or or you're you're back to normal? I'm not back to normal, but they won't put me on TRT cuz it's still not classified as low enough. Got it. Got it. Well, that's good. You usually that that it it comes back, especially young man your age. Yeah. No, we'll send you Map Symmetry, dude. That's the program to follow. It's it's perfect for what you're explaining.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much. You got it, man. Thanks for calling in. Adam's like, "How did you lose weight?" Cancer. Cancer. Cancer. Like, Adam, what are you doing? That sucks. That sucks. That sucks. Oh my god. He's uh you know balancing out the body. Um here's the thing. It's not a hard thing to do, but it does take focus focus focus and very rarely do people follow a structured unilateral training program. We'll do unilateral exercises in a program, but most programs are bilateral uh focused.

And so, you know, what where am I going with this? When you do a concentrated unilateral program like a few months, you notice tremendous uh progress uh because the body starts to balance out and you build muscle. You build a lot of muscle through that process. process. process. Well, somebody this in balance too would spending at least a year doing this too. Y so it's not even just a short program of three months doing it. You need to if you if he has that much of a discrepancy from left to right, he needs to stay and symmetry is one of those programs you could do for a long time.

It doesn't cause imbalances like MAPS anabolic where you could if you follow it too often or too long you can start to you know develop some injuries. Yeah. I mean we built and developed this program specifically for that type of an issue. So it's like yeah it's like we have the perfect thing for you. Our next caller is Howard from Ontario. What's up Howard? How you doing Howard? Great. Great to be on guys. I really like your podcast. Thank you so much. How can we help you?

Um, so I just had a quick question about how do you live how do you hit your protein goals without raising your cholesterol? I I have high cholesterol. I'm trying to lower it. I like animal-based protein, but it tends to spike my um my my cholesterol levels. So, I'm just trying to wonder how to hit my targets without having high cholesterol. cholesterol. cholesterol. Sure. Good question. How, if you don't mind me asking, what's the number get to? to? to? Um, you know what? It's it's high.

I don't actually know the exact number at the moment. Um, but when it comes back on the test, it's all high. I I think I could be a hyperabsorber and I might have some genetic history as well. Um, but I don't want to take a statin and I'm just trying to like modify my diet. Yeah. So there are polymorphisms where some people when they consume saturated fats uh they their their total cholesterol goes up and they their lipids in general go off, right? So you look at LDL and HDL and um they can be thrown off.

And so this happens with some with some people. And so like step one that I would do with clients like this is I would move them towards uh grass-fed meat, leaner cuts. Um, and I would have them uh go with a lot of fish. And that often times did a lot. Now, if that didn't do it, then step two would be adding psyllium husk fiber uh where they would take that with each meal. Uh that tends to lower cholesterol. cholesterol. cholesterol. And then step three was to add uh the supplement red yeast rice extract, which is actually a natural statin.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which tends to do the trick. But oftentimes it's just, you know, changing the sources uh of fats. And so I would have them, like I said, eat more meat. Grass-fed meats got a different fatty acid profile, a little bit better, uh, and leaner cuts. And so they would get their fats from avocados and nuts, uh, and olive oil, uh, for example. Would you also have them do further testing to find out like the particles and so as far as like what what it's reading as far as the HDL?

It depends how high. Like I don't that's why I asked what the number was. you know, if it's like 220, know, if it's like 220, you know, but if you're like in the 300s, 400s, some people are like really uh, you know, produce a tremendous amount of cholesterol. Yeah. So, Yeah. So, Yeah. So, what what about eggs and uh cheese? Because I I do like those. Eggs tend to have no no um the data shows tend to do nothing to cholesterol. Cheese and dairy can through the saturated fat.

saturated fat. saturated fat. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So, it's really saturated fat that you want to look at. That can have a negative effect on for some people. Now, some people it doesn't affect them. I'm one of those people. I could eat could eat could eat saturated fat till my my, you know, till I can't breathe anymore doesn't affect my cholesterol in any way, but other people it's it it does. So, dairy would be another one that you would want to look at. look at. look at.

I mean, grass-fed beef makes a huge difference. difference. difference. It Yeah, grass-fed meat makes it makes a pretty big difference if you eat a lot of red meat. Uh, I've been buying this like Australian one. I don't know if it's grass-fed or not. Yeah, you'd want grass-fed, grass-finished. grass-finished. grass-finished. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, that's tough to get. It can be. Yeah, it definitely can be. But like again, if you go to Leaner Cuts, Cuts, Cuts, does Butcher Box ship up to Canada? Do they do they ship up there?

I don't know if Butcher Box is Canada. Yeah, Doug's looking it up right now. Now, here's something else you could try, right? So often times, well, let me ask you this. What's your fitness goal? They do. They do. They do. Just gain muscle, lose fat like everyone else. Okay, Doug said Butcher Box delivers uh to Canada. I will look into them because yeah, they get they have really really good cuts of uh of grass-fed meat. grass-fed meat. grass-fed meat. Um uh so okay, so losing eating in a deficit deficit deficit and dropping carbohydrates uh in many cases makes a big difference.

So how is your carbohydrate or sugar intake? intake? intake? I I trying I'm trying to lower that as well. Um, definitely low on the sugar. For carbs, I mostly eat like complex carbs like potatoes or rice. I dropped wheat completely, so I wanted to try how that would have any effect on my metabolism as well. So, uh, that's kind of uh where I'm at. But I I I don't eat the only real carbs that I eat are fruits and vegetables. How long have you been doing that?

For a while. Have you lost body fat since you started doing that? doing that? doing that? I don't know. It kind of comes and goes. I was down to about 180 at one point. Uh the holidays aren't so great for uh weight loss, but um definitely um I'm going to do like dry January. Uh so that might have a good impact as well, so that I just completely cut out alcohol. Okay. And and how many, if you don't mind me asking, how many uh drinks were you averaging per week?

Uh maybe like five. Okay. Okay. Okay. To 10. To 10. To 10. Makes a big difference. Yeah, that Yeah, that often makes a big difference. Alcohol impacts the liver and the liver is where the cholesterol Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. is made is made is made even more so than sugar. So, yeah. So, that makes a pretty big difference for some people. So, you know, stay consistent with what you're doing. You can make some of those changes. Honestly, if you if you're eating clean, hitting your protein, strength training, no alcohol, in a deficit, um, and you add like the psyllium husk, psyllium husk is just a fiber, um, and and probably give you better digestion anyway.

It's also got other benefits. Um, that might do the trick. Okay. I've been doing chia seeds in the morning with like Greek yogurt. So, si psyllium husk is different. Uh, so I would you psyllium husk you take it with each meal. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You like five or six capsules or, you know, teaspoon or tablespoon. You order it on Amazon, have it here tomorrow. tomorrow. tomorrow. Super cheap. And, um, I mean, I've been using it for a while. It's really good for gut health. Also, it also helps the body re get rid of microplastics because it binds to them.

Uh, so you could try a few of those things with the dry January and then retest and see where you're at. Yeah, I bet 30 days of eating like that and and taking that you'd be a lot better. better. better. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I'll try that. Definitely. that. Definitely. that. Definitely. You got it, man. Thanks for calling in. All right, Howard. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah, I'm glad we got to the alcohol part, part, part, bro. Yeah. Okay, so alcohol is top, right?

Above sugar. Everybody thinks Everybody thinks sugar like there is no uh like healthy amount of alcohol. It's a huge myth. The studies on alcohol that show a benefit, benefit, benefit, uh, what they don't control for, uh, cuz you'll see some studies like, oh, a glass of wine, we've all heard that, right? It's got some health benefits. This is just marketing. What they're looking at are people that commune with other people. And so people who have a glass of wine, who are with other people and communing uh, overall tend to be healthier.

But when you control for all that, it's any amount of alcohol. Well, yeah. And they try and use the effect that's coming from grapes and the antioxidants that you get from drink a glass of grape juice then and see. see. see. Yeah. Stupid. Yeah. Stupid. Yeah. Stupid. Our next caller is Charlie from Iowa. What's up? What's up? What's up? How you doing Charlie? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? Hey guys, things are going well here. A little cold but you know how can we help you?

Yeah. So uh thrilled to be here and give a little context. Uh started my fitness journey is about 9 10 years ago and I have been with you the whole time. So, thank you for what you guys do. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Uh, 2015 2016, I was considerably overweight, about 350 lbs. Uh, started dedicating some time to diet and really a lot of cardio. Uh, and dropped down over 100 pounds. Got to around 235. Uh, I moved started a new job and moved in with a guy who was a powerlifter.

And so, that's when I really started getting into lifting. uh 21, 22, did a lot of powerlifting, did some competition, and uh got to a total of 1110. So, pretty good on the big three. Nice. Nice. Nice. And then uh switched again a couple years ago to where I'm currently at. So, uh full-time. I'm here at my desk at our company. Uh I'm a sales rep for a moving company. I'm also a part-time professor, a full-time doctoral student, and very active in my church. So, a lot going on and uh over the last two years is kind of just normal running like maps anabolic pretty consistently, but still have a long way to go.

Um kind of up and down with the weight uh whether I'm in a bulk or a cut between 260 to 280. And uh my question is kind of with my 2026 goals. So, I have a couple of powerlifting competitions I'd like to do. One of those is a a full three in March and then the fun one with my gym is a deadlift competition in July. Also have a friend that has signed up for a half marathon and I agreed but I'm a little concerned uh that may and so uh trying to fit a half marathon prep with powerlifting at the same time.

So that's my question. Should I or can I reasonably mix those? And with my long-term goals of just being as strong and as fit as possible, uh, what would you guys recommend? Well, Charlie, you're a grown-up. You can do whatever you want, but you're going to suck at both of them. You do those two. Those are They couldn't be more conflicting with each other. each other. each other. You could do both, but like Adam said, you'll just suck at them. You got to pick one, dude.

Yeah. just because just just because they're so different and and in fact the the extra weight strength, all that stuff is going to play in the competition that's going to play against the marathon. I mean, it's like the the two couldn't be further from each other. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh doesn't mean you can't do it. Just uh you know, go into it and knowing that you wouldn't do very well at either one of them. of them. of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And being a regular listener, I knew that's what you guys would say.

So would there be benefit for me to take a break from the lifting to do more cardio? Like I I don't really do any dedicated cardio other than steps. Is there a benefit to pausing the lifting for for for Well, let's half marathon training or Let me help you out. So um you got a pretty busy schedule, but Charlie, do you have kids, married, or is it just all the stuff that you said? It's I'm single. Just all those things is kind of the life. Okay.

Tell tell me what your schedule looks like work-wise with all the stuff that you're doing. And then what's your sleep look like? Yeah, so uh the company get here at 7 a.m. each day and work until about 3 and then I usually go to the gym directly from work. They're about 5 minutes apart so it's on the way home. Works really well. well. well. Okay, good. And then when I get home, eat dinner, and then it's kind of a scramble to get class prep, do my own homework, things like that.

Uh, pretty dedicated. You go to bed around 900, 9:30 each night. And sleep's not great, but it's uh serviceable. Usually get 7, eight good hours. That's pretty good. But I do I do wake up quite a bit throughout the night. So it's not not ideal uh for sleep, but uh things things are pretty busy, pretty stressful. stressful. stressful. So the the waking up can sometimes be a sign of uh overtraining. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. So what does your workout look like right now? Because you said you go to the gym.

How long you in the gym? What are you doing? Yeah. So most of the fall I was running maps anabolic and with with some you know nod to powerlifting. So, probably more deadlifting than than typical. Um, but uh I had been doing pretty consistent 3 to four days a week and uh usually about 45 minutes to an hour with those. those. those. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um I did uh just start uh powerlift 15. So, trying to dial back just recognizing that things were a little much uh especially through the holidays.

Um but uh that's that's kind of where I'm at. And then diet diet-wise, are you you whole food based? You hitting your protein targets every day? day? day? Uh, not as consistent as I was a few years back, but I do aim at 200 grams of protein. And I would say most days are in the orbit of uh of 200, but not always super clean. uh learned uh my my previous roommate, we were huge fans of the dirty bulk. So, uh have some bad habits uh that still need to get uh refurbished there.

refurbished there. refurbished there. I mean, what what Okay, if he if he if he consistently hits a high protein diet, he runs mass power lift 15 and then he has run like goes for a run afterwards. Well, I was just going to say, so there's some really cool studies that have just recently come out that have compared two ways of training for both strength and endurance. The traditional way of doing this is to either a combine it in a workout, so you would do your lifting first, then you would end with a little bit of stamina training, training, training, or you would do a day of dedicated lifting with a day of dedicated stamina.

They compared that to a group of people that did one week of strength training only only only and then one week of endurance training. Yeah. And then one week of strength training and then so they alternated alternate weeks. alternate weeks. alternate weeks. The alternating week group did better in everything. everything. everything. So if you if you want both now I'm going to be clear. You're not going to get the greatest amount of both by doing both. So you're not going to be as strong as you can get if you just did strength.

You're not going to get as much endurance as you could get ver if you just did endurance, right? It's like hybrid, but you'll get you'll get some of both. So, what you could do is maps 15 powerlift one week, the next week focus on building endurance, no lifting, then get back to maps 15 powerlift uh the following week as if you were doing it week after week and alternate like that. The other thing I'll add is this. Start meal prepping and hit 220 grams of protein every day.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, that'll make a huge difference. But you got to meal prep, dude. Because what probably happens is you you miss, then you order out, you eat a little whatever, and garbage comes in and you hit you miss. It makes a massive difference. difference. difference. Nothing will make you suck more at both these things by than hitting not hitting protein while trying to especially big dude like you with all that training. that training. that training. Yeah. Yeah. You you start running and you're only doing this once and and you're missing protein.

Like that's the fastest way to suck at both. But you could you could you could do all right if he did that. If you do what I said, uh, 220 every day consistently, which means you'll probably have to throw a shake in there, uh, meal prep and, you know, max 15 powerlift, then the the next week is marathon, you know, half marathon style training and alternate, you should get some really nice results. And the work up to the half marathon running, by the way, it's not like uh you go for a half marathon.

Yeah. You you want programming for that, too. So, it's like it's, you know, it's like strength training. You need programming. You just go run your butt off. Well, it's it's the complete opposite of deadlifting. I I love deadlifting and squatting and benching. I hate running. So, uh you know, you guys are giving me the ammo and the gun that I need here to to say no to the running, but I can see the benefit of doing it. doing it. doing it. Um yeah, I think that answers my question.

So, thank you guys so much. You got it, man. Thanks for calling in. Yeah, thank you guys. You got it. When he first was telling us his schedule, I was like, "Oh my god, that's a lot." But then I ask him like, "Do you have kids?" And he's like, "No, all right. You're fine." Yeah. And and he's getting and he sounds like he's very religious about getting to bed at 9:00. He's getting 7 to 8. Like that's uh it's not bad. And then he's And then when he I heard he switched to Map 15, I went that's a way more appropriate program.

And then Yeah. If he toggles this between, like you said, either I have yet to try it, dude. I know. The studies are me too. I I heard so I'm not sure if u what podcast were you on um where the guy's like an endurance athlete and he's also like into lifting heavy Nick Bear. I wonder if he trains like that like I don't know that guy's a machine dude. Yeah. Great guy too. Super nice guy. But this this is these are cool study. I have yet to try it.

In fact, I never trained a client that way. I always mixed it, right? You know, but I do a dedicated day. But it makes so much sense where you're at with the amount of muscle that you've put on. You'd be a really fun test to do this with right now. now. now. Yeah, I probably won't, but I'll probably have to do this at some point. point. point. We'll adjust that. All right, real quick. If you love us like we love you, why not show it by rocking one of our shirts, hats, mugs, or training gear over at mypumpstore.com.

I'm talking right now. Hit pause. Head on over to mypumpstore.com. That's it. Enjoy the rest of the show. Our Our Our next caller is Gabriel from Texas. What's up, Gabriel? Doing man. What's happening? Hey, how y'all doing? Good, man. Good, man. Good to see you again. So, give us an update. Nice to see y'all. Okay, so the last time we spoke, I had some PRs for y'all. So, my squat was 440, my bench was 293, and my deadlift was 481. I'll tell y'all the dos first and then the don'ts that I did from the things that y'all gave me advice for.

So, I I really did prioritize my sleep that one. Like even my dad when I got this job, he like kind of told me like every day, dude, get your sleep. Get your sleep. And so, I was just like, "Okay, like I know it's a big deal." I kind of just asked y'all for like the gym aspect of it. Um, it. Um, it. Um, so I I really did prioritize my sleep a lot. uh one of my co-workers, he would like to go out a lot and I told him when I was on this prep, I was like, "Dude, I'm not going out with you.

Like, I'm sorry. I hate to sound like that, but I if it's between me getting my 8 and 1 half to 9 hours of sleep or going out for a couple drinks with you, like I'm sorry, dude, but no, I'm I'm I'm going to sleep." to sleep." to sleep." And so that was that was like a really really big thing that I like made a priority over like well from throughout the the time that we talked and the course of my prep. Um and then my nutrition was a very close second and then obviously the gym like you know the lifting was was right behind that.

But so since then I do have some new PRs to tell y'all about. All right. All right. All right. My squat went from 440 to 491. Nice. Nice. Nice. My bench went from 293 to 299. All right. All right. All right. And my deadlift went from 481 to 485. Nice. Nice. Nice. I did I did do my competition like two weeks ago and I got second place. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Good job. Yeah. So that that was uh legit. That was a good Yeah. Good good good uh good test for me.

Yeah. That's great. What's your question? question? question? Yeah. So So my question to y'all is um what can I do to improve my deadlift? because I do pull conventional and it's just that was the one that like people ask me like how do you squat more than you deadlift or like you know like how like how is your deadlift not better than it is now and this is just like my friends that I've made at the gym that you know we kind of just talk like oh what was your like re what was your like re recent PR or what was this and so when I tell them about my deadlift that's always the one that I'm kind of just like yeah I I know that's my my weakest lift.

Yeah, but you got a nice squat. How How tall are you, bro? bro? bro? Uh 5'8. Uh 5'8. Uh 5'8. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you're you're going to be a better squatter. I mean, you know, this happens sometimes. Usually, someone deadlifts more than they squat, which is why people are like, "What's going on here?" But, uh there are cases. Justin, you're your squat. I'm in this category, too. Yeah. Yeah. Justin's squat is better than his deadlift. deadlift. deadlift. Yeah. So, so have you tried using uh variable resistance with your deadlifts like bands and chains?

I haven't. Um, my coach was implementing positive deadlifts for a little while, but when we got closer to competition, he kind of cut it out and we just stuck to straight. Yeah. Comp dead deadlift. Ask about ask about using bands. Uh, I I got great results implementing bands, you know, speed deadlifts. Clients got great results with them. Um, I would implement those and see if that makes a a big difference for you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. The other thing you can do too is reduce the intensity that you put on your squat.

your squat. your squat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh and and so you can, you know, dedicate it to your deadlift, trade it out a bit. I I do think that that uh that played a part because part because part because uh I think it was over the summer I had one block of singles. Um and my my primary days were all back to back to back and my deadlift happened to be the last day. And I told my coach, I told him, "Hey man, I'm I'm kind of like my body's not feeling it.

I I don't know how this is going to go, but I'm I'm still gonna attempt it anyway." And so that was my first time attempting 485, and I had failed it. But then going into this prep, everything in terms of deadlift was looking like I was going to pull something pretty pretty good. Um, but I failed 501 on the week, the week right before my prep. So, my week four, I mean, right before my comp, I'm sorry. my week four. Um, but it broke the ground.

So, I knew 485 was going to move. It was just whether or not I was feeling it at the competition. Yeah. And so, you have a powerlifting coach. coach. coach. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, dude. So, ask about using variable resistance like bands and chains. Okay. Okay. Okay. It especially for for guys who are advanced like you who are strong. Like I don't necessarily do that with people when I'm, you know, been training for the first year or two, but once you start to hit those plateaus and the higher numbers, it I mean it's it got my this is what got my deadlift above uh 550.

It was like I stuck there for a long time. Then I started using bands. I'd go down to 405 and I'd put heavy strong bands and I'd do some some weeks like that where I'm pulling against heavy bands and they felt real smooth and it just it just my my deadlift went through the roof. I added 50 lbs. I mean, this isn't definitely not my wheelhouse. But when I've had success when I'm I just I prioritize the one that I care about the most. In other words, like if it's deadlift, it it becomes the lift that I focus on first in the week.

And that made a huge difference. And then vice versa, when I was doing when I was trying to chase after my squat going up, it was like squat became the priority. So, I don't know if that's what it looks like in your week is, you know, are you focusing more on the squat or it's normally after your rest days and when you feel your best, like you just flip that and make the deadlift become kind of the priority when you're when you're training. I think I think my coach did notice that because he did put my deadlift it used to be on it was either Tuesdays or Thursdays and then he switched it to Mondays.

Yeah. So, so then I had uh Friday was my primary squat, Saturday was my primary bench. Um, so I had all day Saturday, all day Sunday, and then I wouldn't go to the gym till Monday after work. work. work. So that was giving me like, you know, that 48 hour window to recover from the squat. squat. squat. Yeah, that always helped me when I was like when I was focused like that. You're at a level where, you know, because you're strong. You're really strong. How much what's your body weight?

Um, I signed up at 82.5, but I weighed in at 80 flat. So, it was 176. Wow. Oh, yeah. You're strong, bro. So, you're at a level now So, you're at a level now where the the small tweaks make the difference. Like, you know, chains, bands, deficit deads, you know, speed deadlifts, you know, like pause. These little techniques start to make a big difference uh for people like you. Even even consider like how how long have you been like in the training this way too? Have you kind of cycled out and did like something that's more like hypertrophy focus?

hypertrophy focus? hypertrophy focus? Yeah. Hypertrophy or unilateral work like cuz you're you are you're at this level where you know gaining 3 to 5 pounds is a big deal now because you're already kind of at peak performance. Have you cycled off? So So I this is actually on New Year's is going to be my second full year powerlifting. Um I'm like relatively new. I know that's not new, but I'm still like new amongst my friends that have been doing it. Um, and I actually just talked to my coach about this because I don't remember which episode.

We're not really supposed to wear our AirPods at work anymore. So, I kind of binge listened to you guys. Um, so I don't remember which one it was, but I know you guys did recommend like a full block of unilateral training. So, I did pitch that to my coach and he told me that he liked that idea. So, I think starting this block we are going to start to implement things like that. I think I think that'll be huge. I think if you do a block of unilateral training, then you come back again, I think you'll you'll see some good stuff from that, too.

He he wants me to do two. So, yeah, I like that. I'm thinking we're doing two full blocks of just I'm still going to do the compound lifts, but a majority of my accessory work after that is just going to be unilateral training. training. training. I love that. And I'm assuming you're doing things like reverse hypers and all that. that. that. Uh is can you elaborate on that? So, reverse hyper. So you you know what a reverse hyper you lay flat on your you lay flat on your stomach and then you swing swing swing when your legs come out.

Bring your legs up. Oh yeah. Yeah, we have a machine like that. I do that one as well. Yes. Good. Yeah, that's a great Yeah, that's great. So I got reverse reverse hypers, single leg deadlifts, bands. You said a lot from your hip thrust, too. too. too. Yeah, hip thrust. Those translated really well to my deadlift. Okay. So I cuz I don't I don't think my coach adds hip thrust in. I could ask him to maybe if we could add that one in. Yeah, in. Yeah, in.

Yeah, it'd be a good time while you're doing this unilateral work, like take take a break from like the a lot of hard traditional powerlifting and and this is where I would add unilateral work and some of the stuff that he's talking about. about. about. Yeah, a lot of it's not a traditional powerlifting exercise. Uh because hip thrusts weren't really popular for a long time. Uh but uh this is more recent for me and I never really did them uh back in the day. I only did them for correctional exercise purposes, but you could load the heck out of a hip thrust.

And you know, I could I got my hip thrust up to close to 700 lb. And for sure, I saw translation to my deadlift. I think one of the episodes, I don't remember who made fun of you for that. They were like, "Why are you bragging about that?" about that?" about that?" Definitely Justin and I make fun of him. We We definitely make fun of him when he does it. does it. does it. He does have the Hey, he does have the biggest deadlift. You know what I'm saying?

He's got the biggest deadlift. It's about the only thing he's got the biggest stuff, but he's got that for sure. sure. sure. There's one other thing. I want to see how that translates to kettle bell swings. That's Yeah. Okay. I I'll uh I'll mention that to my coach. So I'm I'm assuming the So like my my top sets I would have to do them without the bands and then the back down sets I could tell him like hey can we try adding bands to see if that if that if that what I would do what I used to do with mine was the the deadlift workout was a dedicated band one.

So instead of working up to a heavy weight uh I would add bands and I'd focus on speed. Mhm. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. So, just to give you an example, let's say at the moment, you know, my my my top deadlift is 520, let's say. I'd go up to maybe 350 and I'd put really heavy bands on the bar and I'd focus on speed. Uh, and the way bands pull, it feels totally different because at the bottom, you don't notice it. You get up to the top, it gets really hard.

And it just made my deadlift so strong. I did I I think I know what you're talking about because I did start implementing that when I warm up for my bench. So like I'll take a heavy bench and then like with really light weight I'll just do like a tempo on the way down and try to explode as fast as I can. can. can. But bands are great. Bands are great for the speed. They're great cuz they get really tight at the top. I really love what you and your coach are doing though.

Two blocks of unilateral work I think is going to be two years straight of like powerlifting your body will get you good and stable. Yeah, you got you got like two or three years of more gains, dude. You're doing really well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't tell me that cuz I'm I'm chasing numbers right now. You're doing good, dude. You're at the point now where injury prevention should be at the top cuz you're pretty strong, which is another reason why the unilateral is going to be so good.

So, that that was actually going to go into my next question. Um, if if there's still time, still time, still time, Sure. Sure. Sure. Okay. Um, so I uh I think the last time we spoke I had told y'all that I don't really have like very many friends out here yet. Um, but I like I said I do have friends at the gym now. So a couple of times a week, well not a usually it's once a week, sometimes we go twice, but they'll invite me to go play soccer with them.

And I hurt my knee like six to eight weeks out of my recent competition. competition. competition. And so I was just I I honestly think I would have hit a heavier squat had I not got that little knee injury. Yeah. But I didn't squat anything heavier than 363 for like I think maybe three or four weeks. weeks. weeks. So like the last three weeks of my of my prep, I kind of pushed my CNS to Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. if I could at least get that back.

But is there any way that I could still like play soccer? play soccer? play soccer? You don't want to do you don't I wouldn't be doing that while you're in the middle of powerlifting training. That's that's like recipe for an injury to go do something. Here's the thing though. You got to balance this out, dude. So like, you know, look at your life and what's important to you. Uh because you have a social component overall, like big picture, the soccer is going to keep you agile.

You're not a heavy guy. If you just focus on powerlifting for the f next 5 years and you never do anything with agility, you're going to lose a lot of agility. Yeah. But here's a good time though. You're about to do two blocks of unilateral. This is when I would play around with some soccer movements and doing some your mobility. The closer you get to competition is when you would eliminate it. Yeah. Like don't like I know you mentioned that you're still going to be doing some of your traditional I it's okay.

You're not going to lose all this crazy strength if you do just do a lot of focus on unilateral and maybe do some agility training. Maybe have some s. But that's the time to do it. You don't do that in the middle of like I'm trying to stack weight on the ball away from a competition. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to be play that's not when you play soccer. You play soccer in this this twoe block you got coming up right now. So you you have you you because you're challenging unilateral stability and like that's the time to do that, not when you're like really trying to increase your lift.

But overall, I would say just look at your overall like what do you want out of your life? And if you're like, man, I just want to powerlift and that was what brings you joy, then yeah, you definitely have to make some decisions. But if you're like, you know what, I love powerlifting, but I really like the social component. social component. social component. I mean, my man my man is passing up drinks to go to bed at night so he can get his he wants he wants to hit some I'm not making that up either.

I promise. promise. promise. I know. I believe that's I'm trying to tell C, you're very tell I'm trying to tell C, you're very focused right now. Very serious about getting your power. But then on the other end, Adam, he's not doing the social component with that, but he's got the social component with soccer. He's a young man. So, you just got to you just got My point is you you just consider it all, make your decision, stick with it. You know what I mean? mean? mean?

Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. Yeah. But this in in my opinion, this is the time that you would you would play with things like soccer and agility like because you're going to a unilateral, you're given a little bit of a break of the really heavy lifting and bilateral stuff. Now it's time to do unilateral multiplaner movements, maybe throw in some soccer here and there like that. That's the time to do it. Then you when you get back off those two blocks, it's it's game time. It's powerlifting time.

And now you're back to your programming. You're adding the bands in. You're doing all that stuff. Yeah, that that was what I definitely told myself because when I when I um when I hurt myself in the middle of my prep, I I kicked my own butt. Um butt. Um butt. Um Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I I was so mad at myself and I was Well, my coach just told me, "Dude, like I mean, you're still 6 weeks out. Like, just recover, rest. We'll see how things go." Um because I told him, I know it doesn't feel like I'm like I'm hurt, like I can't compete, but it's just I can't squat.

Like, I know I can't do that. Yeah. Um, how old are you? Uh, I actually just turned 29 last. Yeah, dude. You very disciplined. You You're doing great, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the social component is good, too. Uh, you need friends. You need good men around you. I like that you skipped the drinking. You know, not a lot of good things happen when you go out at night and drink, but when you're playing, you know, game with each other, and you got your friend, like, that's also important, but you're also very disciplined.

Looks like you got a job. You're structured with your training. Sounds like your dad, you got a good relationship with your dad. You're doing great, bro. So, you know, look at all of it as a big picture and say, "Okay, what do I want out of life?" And, you know, what's most important to me? And then you make your decision and stick with it. Cuz if you waffle back and forth, that's when you'll have problems. It's like, are you going to be a professional powerlifter? Is that your ultimate dream?

I mean, it's it's good to be that disciplined and and I think that provides a lot of value, but also like yeah, if you if you also want to have interactions and social, like you got to add that flexibility in there. So, it's okay that you can kind of like intermittently go between one or the other. other. other. That's why I I did tell myself that if I do go play soccer, it would probably be like maybe just like either a D load week or week one, week two.

Like, is that is that something that maybe I could I won't even try it on prep. I promise you I'll never try that again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but like even like if it's just, you know, regular training, like if it's week one and it's not extremely heavy, can I can I can I Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do do your due diligence though with like priming really. Just remember, I mean, you you have built a you built a an engine with a lot of horsepower that's designed to go really hard and fast straight and then every once in a while you're trying to take corners by playing soccer.

So just keep that in mind. So understand how much horsepower you've built in this engine of yours running straight. And so you need to make sure that you do a little bit of your mobility, warm up properly, like and then you'll you'll you'll be okay. It's it's it's being that strong in that direction and then all a sudden think you're going to go explosive left to right. Definitely take that 15 20 minutes of mobility before every time you do any kind of soccer. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Do you have do you have maps performance? performance? performance? I do not. All right. So we'll send MAPS performance to you and then in MAPS performance there's mobility days. And so what I would recommend is you doing all the lower especially the lower body stuff before you play soccer. Yeah, the mobility sessions. So throw throw a mobility session in and do that and do your due diligence before that. That will really protect you from potentially getting hurt because you do you got you've built you're strong, bro.

You're you're really strong, but you're really strong with both your feet on the ground facing forward. you know that and then trying to translate that to going left really quick or twisting or or backpedal like and soccer requires that like at the highest level. And so that's normally where an injury happens. It's it's not because you're not strong, athletic, and fit. It's because you're strong and athletic or your hips mobile and your ankles mobile. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I do I do think that is one thing I need to prioritize now is my ankle mobility because I just do maybe like one warm-up before I squat and then that's kind of it.

I think I think I do need to be better about that. Like I can admit that for myself especially if you want to play soccer cuz that requires a ton of ankle movement. movement. movement. So I mean if you got the if So I mean if you got the if you got these stone ankles and you got these explosive quads ham glutes like you're going to they're going to hurt your knees. That's that's where the knee pain is coming from all day long. You just create discipline for that.

So, it's top of mind and you just like keep practicing mobility exercises for your ankle. It'd be good. Do um Does that maps performance have anything for like ankle mobility? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. We'll send that to you. Work on that. on that. on that. This is just real quick. I I've been experimenting with 15 grams of creatine and I feel fine. Can I try 20? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The data on that is pretty awesome for brain health. I I I just heard that.

I think you I listened to it either yesterday or the day before, but I just didn't know like how do you know when to call like when is enough? is enough? is enough? Uh I mean 20 is what the data is showing. I mean I don't know if there's danger danger danger in going above that. I doubt it. I think it's probably more like stomach issues will happen. will happen. will happen. Gastro. Gastro. Gastro. Yeah. But you could try 20. See if you notice a difference.

If you don't back back go back them gummies up or what? No, I just get the one from Sam's Club. It's like $17 for 100. And it's uh it's a Seabbum's brand, so it's you know, it's a pretty good brand. Yeah. Yeah. Creatine monohydrate. You're good. You're good. But yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you so much for the for the program as well. You got it, man. All right, man. Take it easy. Have a good day. You got it. You know, you know, it's it's it depends who I'm talking to, right?

If this was a young man that struggled with discipline, then that's what you push. He is a disciplined guy. You know what I mean? And the m what can happen to sometimes a guy that's which is not common. Usually young men are not very disciplined but when they're really disciplined they get so focused on one thing that they they leave out or lose the value of other things like socialization having good men around you. And sometimes it looks like it's just work or it's just workouts or you know so that's why I'm like you know measure it out see for yourself you know.

know. know. Yeah. But I'll tell you where I'm coming from. I'm I'm this this this kid literally the same age was all for the first time in my life chasing PRs hitting big numbers and then still wanting to go play basketball. That's where all my injuries happen. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, and it's a recipe. Yeah. It's it's a recipe for that when you all of a sudden get really strong, you know, in one plane, but you're young. You can still get out on the court. You can do things.

Your your body's different now. And so, that's where I'm coming from on on that is not that like No, I mean, it's true. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm pro social, do all those things, but it's like you got to be careful. be careful. be careful. You got to account for it. You got to prep for it. Yeah. When you get when you get that, it's not like it'd be different if he's just a guy who likes to to work out and he's he's he's strong. He's real strong for his size.

Yeah. Almost 500 lb. I mean, I'd be like, don't do it if like he was that disciplined where he's trying to make a career out of being like, yeah, a pro uh powerlter. But, you know, if this is just like a hobby, he's got to be But this is in my in my opinion, what he should do in this block where he's doing unilateral is completely let go of the squat, bench, deadlift is like a focus at all. It's just like unilateral work and maybe starting to do some performance stuff and multipler stuff and like play some soccer.

The irony is he works just on all that. He's going to get stronger overall. Exactly. That's my my point is like, hey, go all in on the the playing soccer, doing the mobility, doing all the things in this twoe block. You're not going to you're not going to come back and be a 300 squatter all a sudden. Like you're he's going to be strong and he'll probably surpass those numbers that way. But trying to mix him when you're when you're that strong, that's that's a dangerous game.

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