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The Hard Truth: Why Your Hardest Days Create Your Greatest Success | Ed Mylett

On a hard day, do not negotiate with your entire future—choose one constructive action that keeps you available and in motion. Make one call, complete one focused work block, take one walk, or have one honest conversation. Scale the task to your real capacity and respect genuine health limits, but a

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Key Takeaway

On a hard day, do not negotiate with your entire future—choose one constructive action that keeps you available and in motion. Make one call, complete one focused work block, take one walk, or have one honest conversation. Scale the task to your real capacity and respect genuine health limits, but avoid letting discomfort automatically decide your behavior. Repeating this “one more” response builds the resilience and habits that carry you when motivation is low.

Episode Overview

Ed Mylett argues that the defining difference between average and exceptional performance is the ability to “play hurt”: to take meaningful action through disappointment, fatigue, fear, and adversity. Using stories from sports, business, and personal loss, he frames pain as an opportunity to build resilience, discover a lesson, and keep commitments through one more deliberate step. The later conversation expands into systems, learning through teaching, attention, presence, and aligning effort with ambition.

Main Insights

Your Hard Days Are the Real Test

Mylett’s central claim is that almost anyone can perform when healthy, confident, and motivated. The differentiator is whether you can still execute a useful next action when you have suffered a setback, feel discouraged, or are operating below your best.

Keep Conditions Separate From Behavior

Pain, fatigue, rejection, and difficult circumstances are real, but they do not have to automatically determine your next behavior. Build a default response—show up, adjust the intensity, and do what is safely possible—so your standards do not disappear on difficult days.

Use One More to Shrink Overwhelm

Rather than promising never to quit or solving every problem at once, decide on one more action now. One more call, workout, page, meeting, or day turns an intimidating future into an immediate, manageable commitment.

Find the Gap, Then Upgrade the System

The conversation distinguishes working harder from improving the specific system that is holding you back. When you encounter a higher level of performance, assess the gap honestly—organization, team, process, learning, or focus—and make targeted adjustments rather than relying only on more effort.

Learn With the Intent to Teach

The speakers argue that teaching turns passive consumption into active learning. If you expect to explain an idea to someone tomorrow, you listen more carefully, ask better questions, take better notes, and are more likely to apply the lesson.

Frameworks or Models

The Power of One More

1. Do not make an abstract promise to never quit. 2. Identify the next constructive action available right now. 3. Complete one more call, workout, page, meeting, or day. 4. Repeat the process whenever the next challenge arrives, using action to maintain momentum through difficulty.

MAX OUT

1. Observation: give full attention to what and whom you are engaging with; the speaker says retention follows attention. 2. Use: apply what you learn immediately and repeatedly, such as using a person’s name in conversation or testing an idea in real life. 3. Teach: learn with the intention of explaining the idea to someone else, which deepens focus, ownership, and recall.

Notable Quotes

"The separator is what you do on the days you're hurting."

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"Your breaking point is God's building point."

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"The best ability is availability."

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"You got to score with your B game or your D game. This is the separator."

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Action Items

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    Choose your “one more” before noon

    Identify the smallest meaningful action you have been avoiding today—send the proposal, make the call, complete 20 minutes of focused work, or take a walk—and complete it before noon. Make the target concrete enough that discomfort cannot turn it into an all-day debate.

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    Create a hard-day minimum

    Write a minimum viable version of your key habit for low-energy days. For example: five minutes of planning, one sales follow-up, ten minutes of reading, or a short mobility routine. Use it to preserve continuity while adjusting safely for genuine illness or injury.

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    Run a gap-and-system review

    Pick one goal where effort is not producing the desired result. Ask: “What specific capability or system is missing?” Then make one structural improvement this week, such as documenting a process, scheduling a weekly review, finding a mentor, or removing a bottleneck.

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    Teach one lesson within 24 hours

    Share one useful idea from this episode with a friend, colleague, or in a short note. Explain how you will apply it yourself; teaching it in your own words will reveal whether you truly understand it.

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Hey everyone, welcome to my weekend Hey everyone, welcome to my weekend special. I hope you enjoy the show. Hit special. I hope you enjoy the show. Hit special. I hope you enjoy the show. Hit that like button and be sure to that like button and be sure to that like button and be sure to subscribe to the YouTube channel so you subscribe to the YouTube channel so you subscribe to the YouTube channel so you never miss my show whether it's Tuesday, never miss my show whether it's Tuesday, never miss my show whether it's Tuesday, Thursday or Saturday. Now on with the Thursday or Saturday. Now on with the Thursday or Saturday. Now on with the show. show. show. Welcome back to the show everybody. So Welcome back to the show everybody. So Welcome back to the show everybody. So grateful you've decided to join me again grateful you've decided to join me again grateful you've decided to join me again here this week. And this week I have a here this week. And this week I have a here this week. And this week I have a question for you. Do you play hurt? question for you. Do you play hurt? question for you. Do you play hurt? Because I think playing hurt is one of Because I think playing hurt is one of Because I think playing hurt is one of the invisible skills of all the great the invisible skills of all the great the invisible skills of all the great ones. And if you think back in your ones. And if you think back in your ones. And if you think back in your lifetime, the people that you've been lifetime, the people that you've been lifetime, the people that you've been the most, you know, emotional about when the most, you know, emotional about when the most, you know, emotional about when you've watched them perform in sports or you've watched them perform in sports or you've watched them perform in sports or life in business, they were overcoming life in business, they were overcoming life in business, they were overcoming some pain they were in currently at the some pain they were in currently at the some pain they were in currently at the time, typically in sports, it's some time, typically in sports, it's some time, typically in sports, it's some type of an injury that they have. And so type of an injury that they have. And so type of an injury that they have. And so I ask you, can you play hurt? Because I I ask you, can you play hurt? Because I I ask you, can you play hurt? Because I think that's the great separator in life think that's the great separator in life think that's the great separator in life and in business, is that the great ones and in business, is that the great ones and in business, is that the great ones are able to perform even when they're are able to perform even when they're are able to perform even when they're not at their best, even when they're not at their best, even when they're not at their best, even when they're hurt, even when they're wounded, even hurt, even when they're wounded, even hurt, even when they're wounded, even when they're down. And average ordinary when they're down. And average ordinary when they're down. And average ordinary people succumb to the injury, succumb to people succumb to the injury, succumb to people succumb to the injury, succumb to the pain, the down cycle in their life. the pain, the down cycle in their life. the pain, the down cycle in their life. You know, I really believe the separator You know, I really believe the separator You know, I really believe the separator in life is not what you do on the days in life is not what you do on the days in life is not what you do on the days where you're feeling great, you're where you're feeling great, you're where you're feeling great, you're feeling healthy, you're feeling feeling healthy, you're feeling feeling healthy, you're feeling emotionally strong, everything's going emotionally strong, everything's going emotionally strong, everything's going your way. Everybody performs well on your way. Everybody performs well on your way. Everybody performs well on those days. It's what do you do on the those days. It's what do you do on the those days. It's what do you do on the days that you don't feel that way. In days that you don't feel that way. In days that you don't feel that way. In sports, especially the greatest moments sports, especially the greatest moments sports, especially the greatest moments of my lifetime in sports, we'll talk of my lifetime in sports, we'll talk of my lifetime in sports, we'll talk about them in a minute, have been about them in a minute, have been about them in a minute, have been watching athletes perform under pain, watching athletes perform under pain, watching athletes perform under pain, under injury, under hurt, and in under injury, under hurt, and in under injury, under hurt, and in business, in life, you know, we're not business, in life, you know, we're not business, in life, you know, we're not on television. And so sometimes we don't on television. And so sometimes we don't on television. And so sometimes we don't realize that's the separator. The realize that's the separator. The realize that's the separator. The difference between winning and losing in difference between winning and losing in difference between winning and losing in life, in sports, is so small, it's life, in sports, is so small, it's life, in sports, is so small, it's almost too scary to talk about. One of almost too scary to talk about. One of almost too scary to talk about. One of the things that worries me is I have to the things that worries me is I have to the things that worries me is I have to be candid with you. I think everybody be candid with you. I think everybody be candid with you. I think everybody can help someone. But one of the things can help someone. But one of the things can help someone. But one of the things that's happened in the business space, that's happened in the business space, that's happened in the business space, the entrepreneurial space, is there just the entrepreneurial space, is there just the entrepreneurial space, is there just so many people that are giving advice so many people that are giving advice so many people that are giving advice and information that have never built a and information that have never built a and information that have never built a business that have never accomplished business that have never accomplished business that have never accomplished anything other than telling you how to anything other than telling you how to anything other than telling you how to accomplish something. And so often times accomplish something. And so often times accomplish something. And so often times I hear their messages and I'll I hear their messages and I'll I hear their messages and I'll commiserate with other people that I commiserate with other people that I commiserate with other people that I know that have actually done something know that have actually done something know that have actually done something in their life and like, can you believe in their life and like, can you believe in their life and like, can you believe that they teach this stuff and that that they teach this stuff and that that they teach this stuff and that people are believing this? I worry people are believing this? I worry people are believing this? I worry sometimes that you don't get told the sometimes that you don't get told the sometimes that you don't get told the truth about what it really takes to win truth about what it really takes to win truth about what it really takes to win and that so many of you are listening to and that so many of you are listening to and that so many of you are listening to so many different voices, many of which so many different voices, many of which so many different voices, many of which aren't qualified to help you in the area aren't qualified to help you in the area aren't qualified to help you in the area that you're looking for help. And I say that you're looking for help. And I say that you're looking for help. And I say that with respect cuz I think everyone that with respect cuz I think everyone that with respect cuz I think everyone can help somebody. But by and large, if can help somebody. But by and large, if can help somebody. But by and large, if I want to get fit and in shape, I want I want to get fit and in shape, I want I want to get fit and in shape, I want my trainer to be fit and in shape. If I my trainer to be fit and in shape. If I my trainer to be fit and in shape. If I want to become wealthy and build a big want to become wealthy and build a big want to become wealthy and build a big business, I want to listen to someone business, I want to listen to someone business, I want to listen to someone who's wealthy that's built a big who's wealthy that's built a big who's wealthy that's built a big business. If I want to become happier business. If I want to become happier business. If I want to become happier and more influential and more passionate and more influential and more passionate and more influential and more passionate in my life, I want to listen to someone in my life, I want to listen to someone in my life, I want to listen to someone who's done that. And so I know that one who's done that. And so I know that one who's done that. And so I know that one of the separators from the people that I of the separators from the people that I of the separators from the people that I know that have become mega successful in know that have become mega successful in know that have become mega successful in their lives is their ability to play their lives is their ability to play their lives is their ability to play when they don't have their agame, their when they don't have their agame, their when they don't have their agame, their ability to win and step up and sometimes ability to win and step up and sometimes ability to win and step up and sometimes play better. And so ask yourself this play better. And so ask yourself this play better. And so ask yourself this question. The last year on days when you question. The last year on days when you question. The last year on days when you were down or not even feeling physically were down or not even feeling physically were down or not even feeling physically well, you had the flu or cough or you well, you had the flu or cough or you well, you had the flu or cough or you know you had an injury that you hurt know you had an injury that you hurt know you had an injury that you hurt yourself and your knee or your back was yourself and your knee or your back was yourself and your knee or your back was hurting or someone had hurt your hurting or someone had hurt your hurting or someone had hurt your feelings the day before or maybe a week feelings the day before or maybe a week feelings the day before or maybe a week or two before the day before you lost an or two before the day before you lost an or two before the day before you lost an account or didn't get a sale you thought account or didn't get a sale you thought account or didn't get a sale you thought you were going to get or something's you were going to get or something's you were going to get or something's going on with your kids. How did you going on with your kids. How did you going on with your kids. How did you perform those days? Because that's the perform those days? Because that's the perform those days? Because that's the separator in life. And so we're so moved separator in life. And so we're so moved separator in life. And so we're so moved often by the people we see when they do often by the people we see when they do often by the people we see when they do this. I'll give you an example. I was this. I'll give you an example. I was this. I'll give you an example. I was recently moved by a young man and I'm recently moved by a young man and I'm recently moved by a young man and I'm sure this will get back to him and he sure this will get back to him and he sure this will get back to him and he may be surprised that I saw this, but a may be surprised that I saw this, but a may be surprised that I saw this, but a young man named Cade Belaloo and he's a young man named Cade Belaloo and he's a young man named Cade Belaloo and he's a college baseball player at Auburn college baseball player at Auburn college baseball player at Auburn University. I played college baseball. University. I played college baseball. University. I played college baseball. He's a lefty. I was a lefty. And so I He's a lefty. I was a lefty. And so I He's a lefty. I was a lefty. And so I took note of this young man, but the took note of this young man, but the took note of this young man, but the reason I saw him wasn't because he reason I saw him wasn't because he reason I saw him wasn't because he played college baseball or because he played college baseball or because he played college baseball or because he played at Auburn. He's a much better played at Auburn. He's a much better played at Auburn. He's a much better college player than I was, by the way. college player than I was, by the way. college player than I was, by the way. But um the reason I saw him is that his But um the reason I saw him is that his But um the reason I saw him is that his mother had died and the day that his mother had died and the day that his mother had died and the day that his mother had passed away, he still played mother had passed away, he still played mother had passed away, he still played in the game that night. And I guess in the game that night. And I guess in the game that night. And I guess evidently went to the coaches and says, evidently went to the coaches and says, evidently went to the coaches and says, "You know, mom would want me to play "You know, mom would want me to play "You know, mom would want me to play tonight. This young man under tremendous tonight. This young man under tremendous tonight. This young man under tremendous pain just lost his mother. Can you pain just lost his mother. Can you pain just lost his mother. Can you imagine?" Just hours before he said, "I imagine?" Just hours before he said, "I imagine?" Just hours before he said, "I think mom wants me to play." And this think mom wants me to play." And this think mom wants me to play." And this young man steps up to the plate. I young man steps up to the plate. I young man steps up to the plate. I believe it was his third at bat. Guess believe it was his third at bat. Guess believe it was his third at bat. Guess what he did? You know it? He had a home what he did? You know it? He had a home what he did? You know it? He had a home run. run. run. >> [music] >> Mother of Auburn baseball outfielder >> Mother of Auburn baseball outfielder Kaloo. Stacy passed away this morning Kaloo. Stacy passed away this morning Kaloo. Stacy passed away this morning after a battle with cancer. Our hearts after a battle with cancer. Our hearts after a battle with cancer. Our hearts and Auburn baseball are with the balloon and Auburn baseball are with the balloon and Auburn baseball are with the balloon family during this time. >> Ball right. It's deep. IT'S GONE. HE HIT >> Ball right. It's deep. IT'S GONE. HE HIT IT OUT OF HERE. IT OUT OF HERE. IT OUT OF HERE. BRAD, I you know, some things just BRAD, I you know, some things just BRAD, I you know, some things just transcend the the human experience and transcend the the human experience and transcend the the human experience and how sports can bring everybody together how sports can bring everybody together how sports can bring everybody together and that that's one of them. One of the and that that's one of them. One of the and that that's one of them. One of the most inspiring things I've ever seen in most inspiring things I've ever seen in most inspiring things I've ever seen in 32 years of coaching was uh big blue 32 years of coaching was uh big blue 32 years of coaching was uh big blue getting a home run. [applause] [applause] [applause] >> first one of the season. hadn't hit a >> first one of the season. hadn't hit a >> first one of the season. hadn't hit a home run on all the good days, but he home run on all the good days, but he home run on all the good days, but he hit a home run on that day to honor his hit a home run on that day to honor his hit a home run on that day to honor his mom when he was under tremendous pain mom when he was under tremendous pain mom when he was under tremendous pain where many people would have said, "Hey, where many people would have said, "Hey, where many people would have said, "Hey, hey, Cade, we wouldn't blame you at all, hey, Cade, we wouldn't blame you at all, hey, Cade, we wouldn't blame you at all, man. Sit out the game. Sit out the man. Sit out the game. Sit out the man. Sit out the game. Sit out the weekend." You know, that's okay. And by weekend." You know, that's okay. And by weekend." You know, that's okay. And by the way, that would have been okay. You the way, that would have been okay. You the way, that would have been okay. You know, heal up a little bit. You know, know, heal up a little bit. You know, know, heal up a little bit. You know, there's so much this stuff in about there's so much this stuff in about there's so much this stuff in about healing and all that stuff. And by the healing and all that stuff. And by the healing and all that stuff. And by the way, I think you can take action and way, I think you can take action and way, I think you can take action and still win while you're healing. And still win while you're healing. And still win while you're healing. And sometimes the winning can be the sometimes the winning can be the sometimes the winning can be the healing. Instead of just sitting around healing. Instead of just sitting around healing. Instead of just sitting around and machinating in your thoughts and and machinating in your thoughts and and machinating in your thoughts and trying to evaluate yourself all the trying to evaluate yourself all the trying to evaluate yourself all the time, get up and do something, right? time, get up and do something, right? time, get up and do something, right? And I say that out of love. I would say And I say that out of love. I would say And I say that out of love. I would say this if you were my children. I talk to this if you were my children. I talk to this if you were my children. I talk to the audience as if they're an extension the audience as if they're an extension the audience as if they're an extension of my family. I also don't say these of my family. I also don't say these of my family. I also don't say these things sitting on some high horse things sitting on some high horse things sitting on some high horse because I've made the mistakes of not because I've made the mistakes of not because I've made the mistakes of not taking action on the days when I was taking action on the days when I was taking action on the days when I was down or hurting. I've sat out games when down or hurting. I've sat out games when down or hurting. I've sat out games when I was an athlete when maybe I could have I was an athlete when maybe I could have I was an athlete when maybe I could have played. And now in life, you know, as I played. And now in life, you know, as I played. And now in life, you know, as I got older, I realized that's the got older, I realized that's the got older, I realized that's the separator. And so, Cade Belaloo, man, separator. And so, Cade Belaloo, man, separator. And so, Cade Belaloo, man, congratulations, brother. Way to honor congratulations, brother. Way to honor congratulations, brother. Way to honor your mom. Just want you to know I saw your mom. Just want you to know I saw your mom. Just want you to know I saw it. And now you've moved millions of it. And now you've moved millions of it. And now you've moved millions of people through our audience here today. people through our audience here today. people through our audience here today. On the day he was probably hurting the On the day he was probably hurting the On the day he was probably hurting the most in his life, he stepped up and hit most in his life, he stepped up and hit most in his life, he stepped up and hit his first home run of the season. I have his first home run of the season. I have his first home run of the season. I have to imagine that inspired his teammates. to imagine that inspired his teammates. to imagine that inspired his teammates. Have to imagine that his mom's very Have to imagine that his mom's very Have to imagine that his mom's very proud of him. The rest of his family is proud of him. The rest of his family is proud of him. The rest of his family is very proud of him. By the way, would very proud of him. By the way, would very proud of him. By the way, would would we have been proud had Kate hit a would we have been proud had Kate hit a would we have been proud had Kate hit a home run? Sure. Would I be mentioning a home run? Sure. Would I be mentioning a home run? Sure. Would I be mentioning a guy at Auburn who hit his first home run guy at Auburn who hit his first home run guy at Auburn who hit his first home run of the year on my podcast to millions of of the year on my podcast to millions of of the year on my podcast to millions of people if he wasn't hurt? No. And so people if he wasn't hurt? No. And so people if he wasn't hurt? No. And so what I'm saying is some of your greatest what I'm saying is some of your greatest what I'm saying is some of your greatest accomplishments, your greatest story, accomplishments, your greatest story, accomplishments, your greatest story, we've all heard the saying that your we've all heard the saying that your we've all heard the saying that your test can become your testimony. Your test can become your testimony. Your test can become your testimony. Your mess can become your message. But it's mess can become your message. But it's mess can become your message. But it's true. In fact, often times this true. In fact, often times this true. In fact, often times this adversity is a gift. It's an opening to adversity is a gift. It's an opening to adversity is a gift. It's an opening to get something for your pain. I've always get something for your pain. I've always get something for your pain. I've always said that I don't believe God's going to said that I don't believe God's going to said that I don't believe God's going to give you pain without a gift on the give you pain without a gift on the give you pain without a gift on the other side of it. That if you'll look other side of it. That if you'll look other side of it. That if you'll look for the gift of the pain you're going for the gift of the pain you're going for the gift of the pain you're going through, that all pain is temporary. And through, that all pain is temporary. And through, that all pain is temporary. And if you can survive the temporary, if you can survive the temporary, if you can survive the temporary, whatever the pain is you're going whatever the pain is you're going whatever the pain is you're going through, mental, physical, emotional, through, mental, physical, emotional, through, mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, if you'll survive the spiritual, if you'll survive the spiritual, if you'll survive the temporary, but while you're surviving temporary, but while you're surviving temporary, but while you're surviving and getting through it, look for the and getting through it, look for the and getting through it, look for the gift. Look for the miracle. He's going gift. Look for the miracle. He's going gift. Look for the miracle. He's going to give you something. He's going to to give you something. He's going to to give you something. He's going to give you a new friend, a new give you a new friend, a new give you a new friend, a new relationship, a new insight, a new relationship, a new insight, a new relationship, a new insight, a new thought, a new talent, a new ability, a thought, a new talent, a new ability, a thought, a new talent, a new ability, a new innovation, new innovation, new innovation, a new whole new life. Often times, a new a new whole new life. Often times, a new a new whole new life. Often times, a new reference, a new whatever it comes your reference, a new whatever it comes your reference, a new whatever it comes your way through pain. And so this is the way through pain. And so this is the way through pain. And so this is the people that we admire in life. You think people that we admire in life. You think people that we admire in life. You think about in your sports life. Think about about in your sports life. Think about about in your sports life. Think about Michael Jordan. Of all the championships Michael Jordan. Of all the championships Michael Jordan. Of all the championships that Michael Jordan won, it was winning that Michael Jordan won, it was winning that Michael Jordan won, it was winning the 1997 NBA Finals, the flu game where the 1997 NBA Finals, the flu game where the 1997 NBA Finals, the flu game where most people wouldn't have played. He had most people wouldn't have played. He had most people wouldn't have played. He had 104 degree fever. He no one thought he 104 degree fever. He no one thought he 104 degree fever. He no one thought he was even going to show up and play that was even going to show up and play that was even going to show up and play that night and somehow he comes through and night and somehow he comes through and night and somehow he comes through and wins the NBA title playing with the flu, wins the NBA title playing with the flu, wins the NBA title playing with the flu, right? I mean, we remember this. It's right? I mean, we remember this. It's right? I mean, we remember this. It's iconic. Now, he won a lot of iconic. Now, he won a lot of iconic. Now, he won a lot of championships, but that's the clip that championships, but that's the clip that championships, but that's the clip that you see the most. Why? Because he played you see the most. Why? Because he played you see the most. Why? Because he played hurt. He played hurt. It's Tiger Woods hurt. He played hurt. It's Tiger Woods hurt. He played hurt. It's Tiger Woods of all the majors that he won. He won of all the majors that he won. He won of all the majors that he won. He won the 2008 US Open, they tell us on the 2008 US Open, they tell us on the 2008 US Open, they tell us on basically a broken leg. Are you kidding basically a broken leg. Are you kidding basically a broken leg. Are you kidding me? This is these are the stories of me? This is these are the stories of me? This is these are the stories of legends. These are the stories that are legends. These are the stories that are legends. These are the stories that are what icons do. And you have a chance what icons do. And you have a chance what icons do. And you have a chance when you're going through this down day. when you're going through this down day. when you're going through this down day. These are the days where maybe you're These are the days where maybe you're These are the days where maybe you're going through it today and you're like, going through it today and you're like, going through it today and you're like, man, I needed this today, brother. Or man, I needed this today, brother. Or man, I needed this today, brother. Or send this to somebody who needs it. My send this to somebody who needs it. My send this to somebody who needs it. My gosh, this is actually an opening for gosh, this is actually an opening for gosh, this is actually an opening for me. This is where I separate. This is my me. This is where I separate. This is my me. This is where I separate. This is my separation season because almost, you separation season because almost, you separation season because almost, you know, it's I almost get off in my mind know, it's I almost get off in my mind know, it's I almost get off in my mind on these days because I'm like, I know on these days because I'm like, I know on these days because I'm like, I know nobody's working as hard as I am. Not nobody's working as hard as I am. Not nobody's working as hard as I am. Not after how bad yesterday was. Not after after how bad yesterday was. Not after after how bad yesterday was. Not after how bad I'm hurting. Not after that let how bad I'm hurting. Not after that let how bad I'm hurting. Not after that let down. Most people are licking their down. Most people are licking their down. Most people are licking their wounds and staying down. And there's all wounds and staying down. And there's all wounds and staying down. And there's all this stuff that says, "Well, maybe you this stuff that says, "Well, maybe you this stuff that says, "Well, maybe you should stay down for a while. Evaluate should stay down for a while. Evaluate should stay down for a while. Evaluate what happened. Learn the lesson." Yeah, what happened. Learn the lesson." Yeah, what happened. Learn the lesson." Yeah, maybe. Or maybe you should get your ass maybe. Or maybe you should get your ass maybe. Or maybe you should get your ass up and go back to battling. Go back to up and go back to battling. Go back to up and go back to battling. Go back to fighting. Go back to winning. Get in fighting. Go back to winning. Get in fighting. Go back to winning. Get in motion again. I think you could heal, motion again. I think you could heal, motion again. I think you could heal, learn, and take action at the same time. learn, and take action at the same time. learn, and take action at the same time. Tiger Woods winning that US Open on a Tiger Woods winning that US Open on a Tiger Woods winning that US Open on a broken leg. They tell us Kirk Gibson in broken leg. They tell us Kirk Gibson in broken leg. They tell us Kirk Gibson in the 88 World Series hitting a home run the 88 World Series hitting a home run the 88 World Series hitting a home run coming off the bench. He was so injured coming off the bench. He was so injured coming off the bench. He was so injured he couldn't play. He didn't he didn't he couldn't play. He didn't he didn't he couldn't play. He didn't he didn't play the game and he didn't play at all play the game and he didn't play at all play the game and he didn't play at all after this home run. He had one at bat after this home run. He had one at bat after this home run. He had one at bat limps up to the plate. He couldn't play limps up to the plate. He couldn't play limps up to the plate. He couldn't play a position so they put him into pinch a position so they put him into pinch a position so they put him into pinch hit. He gets up there two strikes. hit. He gets up there two strikes. hit. He gets up there two strikes. Dennis Eckersley bam hits a home run Dennis Eckersley bam hits a home run Dennis Eckersley bam hits a home run over the right field fence to win the over the right field fence to win the over the right field fence to win the World Series game. One of the most, if World Series game. One of the most, if World Series game. One of the most, if not the most iconic home run in the not the most iconic home run in the not the most iconic home run in the history of baseball. One of them. Why? history of baseball. One of them. Why? history of baseball. One of them. Why? Cuz he had a home run in the World Cuz he had a home run in the World Cuz he had a home run in the World Series. No, cuz he had a home run hurt Series. No, cuz he had a home run hurt Series. No, cuz he had a home run hurt in the World. By the way, I was at that in the World. By the way, I was at that in the World. By the way, I was at that game. game. game. Funny anecdote. My dad wanted to leave Funny anecdote. My dad wanted to leave Funny anecdote. My dad wanted to leave that game the inning before. We got up that game the inning before. We got up that game the inning before. We got up to leave and we ran into my T-ball to leave and we ran into my T-ball to leave and we ran into my T-ball little league coach in the We were in little league coach in the We were in little league coach in the We were in the bleachers at Dodger Stadium and my the bleachers at Dodger Stadium and my the bleachers at Dodger Stadium and my T-ball coach says, "You don't leave T-ball coach says, "You don't leave T-ball coach says, "You don't leave World Series games early, Mr. Milelet." World Series games early, Mr. Milelet." World Series games early, Mr. Milelet." My dad went, "Ah, all right." We walked My dad went, "Ah, all right." We walked My dad went, "Ah, all right." We walked back to our seats. True story. Sat down back to our seats. True story. Sat down back to our seats. True story. Sat down in the next inning. Maybe the most in the next inning. Maybe the most in the next inning. Maybe the most famous home run in the history of famous home run in the history of famous home run in the history of baseball was hit by Kurt Gibson, but we baseball was hit by Kurt Gibson, but we baseball was hit by Kurt Gibson, but we remember it cuz he played hurt. If remember it cuz he played hurt. If remember it cuz he played hurt. If you're really old like me, it's a year you're really old like me, it's a year you're really old like me, it's a year before I was born, but I've heard about before I was born, but I've heard about before I was born, but I've heard about it all my Willis Reed for the Knicks it all my Willis Reed for the Knicks it all my Willis Reed for the Knicks coming out and inspiring his team to coming out and inspiring his team to coming out and inspiring his team to win. You know, when I speak, I walk out win. You know, when I speak, I walk out win. You know, when I speak, I walk out on stage to Thunderruck by AC/DC and on stage to Thunderruck by AC/DC and on stage to Thunderruck by AC/DC and everyone thinks that's because he's such everyone thinks that's because he's such everyone thinks that's because he's such an AC/DC fan. Well, I am a fan of that an AC/DC fan. Well, I am a fan of that an AC/DC fan. Well, I am a fan of that band, but that's not why I walk out. I band, but that's not why I walk out. I band, but that's not why I walk out. I walk out to AC/DC when I speak because walk out to AC/DC when I speak because walk out to AC/DC when I speak because my favorite fighter of all time is my favorite fighter of all time is my favorite fighter of all time is Arturo Thunder Gotti. He came into the Arturo Thunder Gotti. He came into the Arturo Thunder Gotti. He came into the ring to Thunder Struck. My favorite ring to Thunder Struck. My favorite ring to Thunder Struck. My favorite fighter of all time, Gotti. Why? because fighter of all time, Gotti. Why? because fighter of all time, Gotti. Why? because he was the best fighter of all time. he was the best fighter of all time. he was the best fighter of all time. Arturo was not the greatest fighter of Arturo was not the greatest fighter of Arturo was not the greatest fighter of all time. If you don't know him, go all time. If you don't know him, go all time. If you don't know him, go watch his clips. I don't care if you're watch his clips. I don't care if you're watch his clips. I don't care if you're a boxing fan, female, male, go watch a boxing fan, female, male, go watch a boxing fan, female, male, go watch Arturo, guys. Cuz the shots he would Arturo, guys. Cuz the shots he would Arturo, guys. Cuz the shots he would take and keep coming. His fights with take and keep coming. His fights with take and keep coming. His fights with Mickey Ward. I mean, I'm just going to Mickey Ward. I mean, I'm just going to Mickey Ward. I mean, I'm just going to tell you like inspired me to want to be tell you like inspired me to want to be tell you like inspired me to want to be somebody. If you think about the movies, somebody. If you think about the movies, somebody. If you think about the movies, it's Rocky Balboa. It's how he came back it's Rocky Balboa. It's how he came back it's Rocky Balboa. It's how he came back from being hurt. Cut me Mick, right? from being hurt. Cut me Mick, right? from being hurt. Cut me Mick, right? It's those are the things that move us. It's those are the things that move us. It's those are the things that move us. the greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali, the greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali, the greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali, and how he beat George Foreman and would and how he beat George Foreman and would and how he beat George Foreman and would come back from being hurt. The wonderful come back from being hurt. The wonderful come back from being hurt. The wonderful Carrie Scruggs, most of you don't know Carrie Scruggs, most of you don't know Carrie Scruggs, most of you don't know this, one of the greatest clips of all this, one of the greatest clips of all this, one of the greatest clips of all time. Carrie Scrubs, 1996 gymnast, ends time. Carrie Scrubs, 1996 gymnast, ends time. Carrie Scrubs, 1996 gymnast, ends up basically winning the gold on a torn up basically winning the gold on a torn up basically winning the gold on a torn ankle. And I remember watching that and ankle. And I remember watching that and ankle. And I remember watching that and crying, literally crying when she won. I crying, literally crying when she won. I crying, literally crying when she won. I wonder, by the way, why do we cry when wonder, by the way, why do we cry when wonder, by the way, why do we cry when we see somebody accomplish something we see somebody accomplish something we see somebody accomplish something great and overcome something amazing? great and overcome something amazing? great and overcome something amazing? Whether someone heals from cancer and Whether someone heals from cancer and Whether someone heals from cancer and they come back and they live or an they come back and they live or an they come back and they live or an athlete that overcomes an injury like athlete that overcomes an injury like athlete that overcomes an injury like Precious Carrie Scruggs did in the Precious Carrie Scruggs did in the Precious Carrie Scruggs did in the Olympics and just the world cried Olympics and just the world cried Olympics and just the world cried watching her go through this pain and watching her go through this pain and watching her go through this pain and win. I submit that we cry when we see win. I submit that we cry when we see win. I submit that we cry when we see these great acts of courage these great acts of courage these great acts of courage because we know that exists within us because we know that exists within us because we know that exists within us and we're not using it. and we're not using it. and we're not using it. We're not even crying out of happiness. We're not even crying out of happiness. We're not even crying out of happiness. There's a part of it's like why can't I There's a part of it's like why can't I There's a part of it's like why can't I do that? I have the same capacity. I'm do that? I have the same capacity. I'm do that? I have the same capacity. I'm also a human being. I want to be proud also a human being. I want to be proud also a human being. I want to be proud of me. I want to overcome my pain. You of me. I want to overcome my pain. You of me. I want to overcome my pain. You know the story that you're going through know the story that you're going through know the story that you're going through right now or have gone through. It's right now or have gone through. It's right now or have gone through. It's only inspiring if you win. It's only only inspiring if you win. It's only only inspiring if you win. It's only inspiring if there's a fairy tale. inspiring if there's a fairy tale. inspiring if there's a fairy tale. There's only it's only inspiring if There's only it's only inspiring if There's only it's only inspiring if there's a lesson. If there's a pot of there's a lesson. If there's a pot of there's a lesson. If there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. And so gold at the end of the rainbow. And so gold at the end of the rainbow. And so you got to play hurt. Sometimes, I'll be you got to play hurt. Sometimes, I'll be you got to play hurt. Sometimes, I'll be honest with you, I think we exaggerate honest with you, I think we exaggerate honest with you, I think we exaggerate the pain we go through. We make it a the pain we go through. We make it a the pain we go through. We make it a bigger deal than it really is. You know, bigger deal than it really is. You know, bigger deal than it really is. You know, I've had people cancel. Well, I've got a I've had people cancel. Well, I've got a I've had people cancel. Well, I've got a cough or I've got the flu. Heck, this is cough or I've got the flu. Heck, this is cough or I've got the flu. Heck, this is a Zoom call. I'm I'm doing this today. a Zoom call. I'm I'm doing this today. a Zoom call. I'm I'm doing this today. My My producer will tell you, I'm My My producer will tell you, I'm My My producer will tell you, I'm sitting here today. I've got at least sitting here today. I've got at least sitting here today. I've got at least two teeth that I need a root canal on two teeth that I need a root canal on two teeth that I need a root canal on today. I I've got something wrong with today. I I've got something wrong with today. I I've got something wrong with my jaw where I can't really open my my jaw where I can't really open my my jaw where I can't really open my mouth to eat. It's enough that I can mouth to eat. It's enough that I can mouth to eat. It's enough that I can talk, right? and I've got the flu. But talk, right? and I've got the flu. But talk, right? and I've got the flu. But no one asked me to run a marathon today. no one asked me to run a marathon today. no one asked me to run a marathon today. They asked me to do six zooms. I'm They asked me to do six zooms. I'm They asked me to do six zooms. I'm sitting in a chair. What's the sitting in a chair. What's the sitting in a chair. What's the difference between sitting on the couch difference between sitting on the couch difference between sitting on the couch and doing nothing and sitting here and and doing nothing and sitting here and and doing nothing and sitting here and helping change the world? And I'm not helping change the world? And I'm not helping change the world? And I'm not bragging about me. Heck, I'll just tell bragging about me. Heck, I'll just tell bragging about me. Heck, I'll just tell you this. I played this whole year hurt. you this. I played this whole year hurt. you this. I played this whole year hurt. I I haven't been on social media in a I I haven't been on social media in a I I haven't been on social media in a year. I've had issues with my heart. year. I've had issues with my heart. year. I've had issues with my heart. I've had a back issue that's just very I've had a back issue that's just very I've had a back issue that's just very significant. I've had surgery on my significant. I've had surgery on my significant. I've had surgery on my back. I've got a I played hurt all year. back. I've got a I played hurt all year. back. I've got a I played hurt all year. It's one of the best years I've ever It's one of the best years I've ever It's one of the best years I've ever had. Now, has it been the biggest growth had. Now, has it been the biggest growth had. Now, has it been the biggest growth year? No, but I played hurt. Deion year? No, but I played hurt. Deion year? No, but I played hurt. Deion Sanders, Coach Prime, was on my uh Sanders, Coach Prime, was on my uh Sanders, Coach Prime, was on my uh podcast a few weeks ago. His agent and podcast a few weeks ago. His agent and podcast a few weeks ago. His agent and my agent, Const Schwarz, was also on my agent, Const Schwarz, was also on my agent, Const Schwarz, was also on some of the most popular shows we've some of the most popular shows we've some of the most popular shows we've ever had. And Coach Prime's this ever had. And Coach Prime's this ever had. And Coach Prime's this legendary coach now at Colorado. But legendary coach now at Colorado. But legendary coach now at Colorado. But what a lot of people don't know is Coach what a lot of people don't know is Coach what a lot of people don't know is Coach Prime played entire major league Prime played entire major league Prime played entire major league baseball season and NFL football season baseball season and NFL football season baseball season and NFL football season at the same time, multiple years in a at the same time, multiple years in a at the same time, multiple years in a row. You imagine playing, imagine how row. You imagine playing, imagine how row. You imagine playing, imagine how hard it is to get to the NFL. Imagine hard it is to get to the NFL. Imagine hard it is to get to the NFL. Imagine how hard it is to get to MLB. He got to how hard it is to get to MLB. He got to how hard it is to get to MLB. He got to both and played both and some days would both and played both and some days would both and played both and some days would play a major league baseball game and an play a major league baseball game and an play a major league baseball game and an NFL football game in the same day. NFL football game in the same day. NFL football game in the same day. Imagine that. And guess what? One year Imagine that. And guess what? One year Imagine that. And guess what? One year he did it with a bronchial infection, he did it with a bronchial infection, he did it with a bronchial infection, walking pneumonia basically for the walking pneumonia basically for the walking pneumonia basically for the entire year. Imagine that. You got a entire year. Imagine that. You got a entire year. Imagine that. You got a bronchial infection, almost borderline bronchial infection, almost borderline bronchial infection, almost borderline walking pneumonia for a year, and he walking pneumonia for a year, and he walking pneumonia for a year, and he plays a full NFL football season and plays a full NFL football season and plays a full NFL football season and major league baseball season and went to major league baseball season and went to major league baseball season and went to the postseason in baseball. But some the postseason in baseball. But some the postseason in baseball. But some people can't get on a Zoom because people can't get on a Zoom because people can't get on a Zoom because they've got a cough they've got a cough they've got a cough or their tummy hurts, right? But you or their tummy hurts, right? But you or their tummy hurts, right? But you want to be a millionaire. You want to be want to be a millionaire. You want to be want to be a millionaire. You want to be one of the great ones ever. But any one of the great ones ever. But any one of the great ones ever. But any chance you're hurt, a little bit down, chance you're hurt, a little bit down, chance you're hurt, a little bit down, I'm just being honest with you. Maybe I'm just being honest with you. Maybe I'm just being honest with you. Maybe this isn't the message everybody wants this isn't the message everybody wants this isn't the message everybody wants to hear, but it's the message everybody to hear, but it's the message everybody to hear, but it's the message everybody needs to hear. The separator is what you needs to hear. The separator is what you needs to hear. The separator is what you do on the days you're hurting. This man do on the days you're hurting. This man do on the days you're hurting. This man played an entire football season, entire played an entire football season, entire played an entire football season, entire baseball season, both with a condition baseball season, both with a condition baseball season, both with a condition that most people would cancel their that most people would cancel their that most people would cancel their zooms for. Can you imagine? And so it's zooms for. Can you imagine? And so it's zooms for. Can you imagine? And so it's about how many punches you can absorb. about how many punches you can absorb. about how many punches you can absorb. Remember this, your breaking point is Remember this, your breaking point is Remember this, your breaking point is God's building point. Just when you're God's building point. Just when you're God's building point. Just when you're ready to break, just when you think ready to break, just when you think ready to break, just when you think you've got too much, if you'll push to you've got too much, if you'll push to you've got too much, if you'll push to that next level, that's when God starts that next level, that's when God starts that next level, that's when God starts to build. That's when he starts to break to build. That's when he starts to break to build. That's when he starts to break through. That's when the growing through. That's when the growing through. That's when the growing happens. But we don't take advantage of happens. But we don't take advantage of happens. But we don't take advantage of these opportunities. I'm almost to the these opportunities. I'm almost to the these opportunities. I'm almost to the point in my life where I believe point in my life where I believe point in my life where I believe adversity is a gift. I can't tell you adversity is a gift. I can't tell you adversity is a gift. I can't tell you that every time bad things happen. Like that every time bad things happen. Like that every time bad things happen. Like today, I didn't want to wake up with my today, I didn't want to wake up with my today, I didn't want to wake up with my jaw and I didn't want all that stuff. jaw and I didn't want all that stuff. jaw and I didn't want all that stuff. It's just like a year of stuff in my It's just like a year of stuff in my It's just like a year of stuff in my physical being. I've had issues physical being. I've had issues physical being. I've had issues personally and socially. It's been a personally and socially. It's been a personally and socially. It's been a tough year. You know, I'm not saying I tough year. You know, I'm not saying I tough year. You know, I'm not saying I would wish that. Same time, it's I've would wish that. Same time, it's I've would wish that. Same time, it's I've learned a lot about myself. I've learned learned a lot about myself. I've learned learned a lot about myself. I've learned how much, to be honest with you, I love how much, to be honest with you, I love how much, to be honest with you, I love what I do and how much I care about you what I do and how much I care about you what I do and how much I care about you all because in a long time ago all because in a long time ago all because in a long time ago financially I didn't need to do this. financially I didn't need to do this. financially I didn't need to do this. And I kind of always thought in my life And I kind of always thought in my life And I kind of always thought in my life when I got very very wealthy I probably when I got very very wealthy I probably when I got very very wealthy I probably wouldn't work like I work still. But wouldn't work like I work still. But wouldn't work like I work still. But then when I got here I fell in love over then when I got here I fell in love over then when I got here I fell in love over my lifetime with people and making a my lifetime with people and making a my lifetime with people and making a difference and serving them almost like difference and serving them almost like difference and serving them almost like feel like it's my home and it's my feel like it's my home and it's my feel like it's my home and it's my calling. It doesn't feel like that much calling. It doesn't feel like that much calling. It doesn't feel like that much work to me. And so, who am I to be, you work to me. And so, who am I to be, you work to me. And so, who am I to be, you know, telling you to do all these know, telling you to do all these know, telling you to do all these things? And so, when I'm not feeling things? And so, when I'm not feeling things? And so, when I'm not feeling great, I don't. And so, I'm really great, I don't. And so, I'm really great, I don't. And so, I'm really convinced that your breaking point is convinced that your breaking point is convinced that your breaking point is God's building point. Tell you another God's building point. Tell you another God's building point. Tell you another story of a guy you probably haven't story of a guy you probably haven't story of a guy you probably haven't heard of unless you live in Australia. heard of unless you live in Australia. heard of unless you live in Australia. I've been reading about this guy for a I've been reading about this guy for a I've been reading about this guy for a few years now. 1983, it started the one few years now. 1983, it started the one few years now. 1983, it started the one of the world's toughest ultramarathons. of the world's toughest ultramarathons. of the world's toughest ultramarathons. 540 mile trek from Sydney to Melbourne. 540 mile trek from Sydney to Melbourne. 540 mile trek from Sydney to Melbourne. I want you to imagine this. Some of the I want you to imagine this. Some of the I want you to imagine this. Some of the top runners in the world are running in top runners in the world are running in top runners in the world are running in this race and a farmer shows up. True this race and a farmer shows up. True this race and a farmer shows up. True story. Dressed in overalls and like story. Dressed in overalls and like story. Dressed in overalls and like galashes over his boots is what they galashes over his boots is what they galashes over his boots is what they say. I'm just telling you what they tell say. I'm just telling you what they tell say. I'm just telling you what they tell you. And so people like, "Who's this you. And so people like, "Who's this you. And so people like, "Who's this farmer? This guy's got overalls on. farmer? This guy's got overalls on. farmer? This guy's got overalls on. There's this combination of runners, but There's this combination of runners, but There's this combination of runners, but some of them are the best in the world. some of them are the best in the world. some of them are the best in the world. 540 miles." And so reporters ask who he 540 miles." And so reporters ask who he 540 miles." And so reporters ask who he was. He replies, "His name's Cliff was. He replies, "His name's Cliff was. He replies, "His name's Cliff Young." Young." Young." Oh, by the way, Cliff is 61 years old, Oh, by the way, Cliff is 61 years old, Oh, by the way, Cliff is 61 years old, sheep farmer. sheep farmer. sheep farmer. Picture this. A marathon's 20some miles. Picture this. A marathon's 20some miles. Picture this. A marathon's 20some miles. Guess what? 5 days, 15 hours, and 4 Guess what? 5 days, 15 hours, and 4 Guess what? 5 days, 15 hours, and 4 minutes later, he won. He finished first minutes later, he won. He finished first minutes later, he won. He finished first in this race. Grueling race. He beat the in this race. Grueling race. He beat the in this race. Grueling race. He beat the next closest competitor by about 10 next closest competitor by about 10 next closest competitor by about 10 hours. He becomes this Australian hours. He becomes this Australian hours. He becomes this Australian national hero, total icon of national hero, total icon of national hero, total icon of ultramarathon running, you know, example ultramarathon running, you know, example ultramarathon running, you know, example of determination, perseverance. But what of determination, perseverance. But what of determination, perseverance. But what he's really an example of is pushing he's really an example of is pushing he's really an example of is pushing through pain. Pushing through pain. You through pain. Pushing through pain. You through pain. Pushing through pain. You know how he won the race? He slept less. know how he won the race? He slept less. know how he won the race? He slept less. Now, there's some legends that say he Now, there's some legends that say he Now, there's some legends that say he didn't sleep at all. Evidently, that's didn't sleep at all. Evidently, that's didn't sleep at all. Evidently, that's not true. But he just slept less. He not true. But he just slept less. He not true. But he just slept less. He didn't know how much sleep was really didn't know how much sleep was really didn't know how much sleep was really required of him. And all the training of required of him. And all the training of required of him. And all the training of chasing sheep on his farm is what chasing sheep on his farm is what chasing sheep on his farm is what equipped him for the race. So, while equipped him for the race. So, while equipped him for the race. So, while these other guys were just running their these other guys were just running their these other guys were just running their normal race, this dude's chasing sheep normal race, this dude's chasing sheep normal race, this dude's chasing sheep for years and years and years around his for years and years and years around his for years and years and years around his farm, some days having to run days at a farm, some days having to run days at a farm, some days having to run days at a time. He was totally built for this. And time. He was totally built for this. And time. He was totally built for this. And so when the actual race comes along, he so when the actual race comes along, he so when the actual race comes along, he dominated dominated dominated because he'd pushed through pain for because he'd pushed through pain for because he'd pushed through pain for years and years and years and years, the years and years and years and years, the years and years and years and years, the actual race was nothing. And so I actual race was nothing. And so I actual race was nothing. And so I believe when you push through pain over believe when you push through pain over believe when you push through pain over and over and over again, it starts to and over and over again, it starts to and over and over again, it starts to not affect you like it once did. But if not affect you like it once did. But if not affect you like it once did. But if you avoid pain, if you shrink to it all you avoid pain, if you shrink to it all you avoid pain, if you shrink to it all the time, if you give in constantly, it the time, if you give in constantly, it the time, if you give in constantly, it weakens you. weakens you. weakens you. Remember this. When you've gone through Remember this. When you've gone through Remember this. When you've gone through a difficult, painful mental experience, a difficult, painful mental experience, a difficult, painful mental experience, a bad day yesterday, physical, a bad day yesterday, physical, a bad day yesterday, physical, spiritual, maybe it's in your spiritual, maybe it's in your spiritual, maybe it's in your relationship, maybe you're just losing relationship, maybe you're just losing relationship, maybe you're just losing confidence. This is an opportunity to confidence. This is an opportunity to confidence. This is an opportunity to either strengthen you or weaken you. And either strengthen you or weaken you. And either strengthen you or weaken you. And how you respond means everything. I'm how you respond means everything. I'm how you respond means everything. I'm pretty sure Cliff at 61 years old in pretty sure Cliff at 61 years old in pretty sure Cliff at 61 years old in overalls overalls overalls didn't have all of the pedigree to be didn't have all of the pedigree to be didn't have all of the pedigree to be the guy to win that race, never mind by the guy to win that race, never mind by the guy to win that race, never mind by 10 hours. But what he had done is 10 hours. But what he had done is 10 hours. But what he had done is trained himself to sleep less than most trained himself to sleep less than most trained himself to sleep less than most people. what he had done is trained people. what he had done is trained people. what he had done is trained himself to push through pain over and himself to push through pain over and himself to push through pain over and over and over. This wasn't something he over and over. This wasn't something he over and over. This wasn't something he trained for. It was his daily life and trained for. It was his daily life and trained for. It was his daily life and it becomes this national icon. Isn't it becomes this national icon. Isn't it becomes this national icon. Isn't that incredible story? It's just that incredible story? It's just that incredible story? It's just incredible. So, can you push through incredible. So, can you push through incredible. So, can you push through pain until you find your truth? I think pain until you find your truth? I think pain until you find your truth? I think of so many of my female friends and of so many of my female friends and of so many of my female friends and they'll tell me the greatest experience they'll tell me the greatest experience they'll tell me the greatest experience of their life is having children. Yet, of their life is having children. Yet, of their life is having children. Yet, they'll tell me the most physically they'll tell me the most physically they'll tell me the most physically painful experience of their life for painful experience of their life for painful experience of their life for many of them was child birth itself. And many of them was child birth itself. And many of them was child birth itself. And so for that unbelievably painful so for that unbelievably painful so for that unbelievably painful experience, you get the greatest gift of experience, you get the greatest gift of experience, you get the greatest gift of your life. your life. your life. Is that amazing? If you really look back Is that amazing? If you really look back Is that amazing? If you really look back at your life, at your life, at your life, man, you've come a long way. man, you've come a long way. man, you've come a long way. And if you look back, most lessons And if you look back, most lessons And if you look back, most lessons learned, most gains were made during learned, most gains were made during learned, most gains were made during your flu game, during your broken leg your flu game, during your broken leg your flu game, during your broken leg round, most of your great experience of round, most of your great experience of round, most of your great experience of your life were the painful ones. In some your life were the painful ones. In some your life were the painful ones. In some odd way, it's God's gift to us because odd way, it's God's gift to us because odd way, it's God's gift to us because when you go through the real pain of when you go through the real pain of when you go through the real pain of life, believe it draws you closer to life, believe it draws you closer to life, believe it draws you closer to God. At least in my case, I had to God. At least in my case, I had to God. At least in my case, I had to conclude, I can't do this on my own. I conclude, I can't do this on my own. I conclude, I can't do this on my own. I need you, Lord. Please help me. And so, need you, Lord. Please help me. And so, need you, Lord. Please help me. And so, ironically, sometimes pain is one of the ironically, sometimes pain is one of the ironically, sometimes pain is one of the great gifts we can have to strengthen great gifts we can have to strengthen great gifts we can have to strengthen our faith. But it also strengthens our our faith. But it also strengthens our our faith. But it also strengthens our resolve. There's also something that resolve. There's also something that resolve. There's also something that happens in us where we develop grit and happens in us where we develop grit and happens in us where we develop grit and toughness and resiliency and a toughness and resiliency and a toughness and resiliency and a relentless pursuit that our conditions relentless pursuit that our conditions relentless pursuit that our conditions aren't the thing that determines aren't the thing that determines aren't the thing that determines our behavior. our behavior. our behavior. Conditions and behavior can be separate. Conditions and behavior can be separate. Conditions and behavior can be separate. The Bible says in 1 Peter 5:10, "And the The Bible says in 1 Peter 5:10, "And the The Bible says in 1 Peter 5:10, "And the God of all grace who called you to his God of all grace who called you to his God of all grace who called you to his eternal glory in Christ after you have eternal glory in Christ after you have eternal glory in Christ after you have suffered a little while himself restore suffered a little while himself restore suffered a little while himself restore you and make you strong, firm, and you and make you strong, firm, and you and make you strong, firm, and steadfast." Life can be heavy. There are steadfast." Life can be heavy. There are steadfast." Life can be heavy. There are moments when the weight of the trials we moments when the weight of the trials we moments when the weight of the trials we go through, it feels unbearable. Pain go through, it feels unbearable. Pain go through, it feels unbearable. Pain can linger. Sometimes prayers seem can linger. Sometimes prayers seem can linger. Sometimes prayers seem unanswered. unanswered. unanswered. And oftentimes we wonder whether we're And oftentimes we wonder whether we're And oftentimes we wonder whether we're ever going to feel whole again. But take ever going to feel whole again. But take ever going to feel whole again. But take heart because your suffering is not the heart because your suffering is not the heart because your suffering is not the end of the story. Remember this. God end of the story. Remember this. God end of the story. Remember this. God sees every tear, every struggle, every sees every tear, every struggle, every sees every tear, every struggle, every weary side. And he's promised that after weary side. And he's promised that after weary side. And he's promised that after you've endured for a while, he'll step you've endured for a while, he'll step you've endured for a while, he'll step in and restore you. You got to endure in and restore you. You got to endure in and restore you. You got to endure for a while usually. And he steps in, for a while usually. And he steps in, for a while usually. And he steps in, strengthens you. He'll make you strengthens you. He'll make you strengthens you. He'll make you unshakable over time. Your pain is unshakable over time. Your pain is unshakable over time. Your pain is temporary. All pain is temporary. The temporary. All pain is temporary. The temporary. All pain is temporary. The only thing that's permanent is our only thing that's permanent is our only thing that's permanent is our souls. But God's grace is eternal. souls. But God's grace is eternal. souls. But God's grace is eternal. Whatever your faith beliefs are, just Whatever your faith beliefs are, just Whatever your faith beliefs are, just know that. And what feels like know that. And what feels like know that. And what feels like brokenness now, brokenness now, brokenness now, it's simply the ground where he's it's simply the ground where he's it's simply the ground where he's planting something new for you. Just planting something new for you. Just planting something new for you. Just remember that his hands are holding on remember that his hands are holding on remember that his hands are holding on to you all the time. They're rebuilding to you all the time. They're rebuilding to you all the time. They're rebuilding you. The storm you're facing right now, you. The storm you're facing right now, you. The storm you're facing right now, it's not going to destroy you because it's not going to destroy you because it's not going to destroy you because you're going to get up. You're going to you're going to get up. You're going to you're going to get up. You're going to persevere and you're going to fight one persevere and you're going to fight one persevere and you're going to fight one way or the other. You're going to get way or the other. You're going to get way or the other. You're going to get through it one way or the other. You'll through it one way or the other. You'll through it one way or the other. You'll get through this day. Remember this. One get through this day. Remember this. One get through this day. Remember this. One day at a time, one meeting at a time. My day at a time, one meeting at a time. My day at a time, one meeting at a time. My book, The Power of One More, I tell you book, The Power of One More, I tell you book, The Power of One More, I tell you this because I believe it to be true. this because I believe it to be true. this because I believe it to be true. You don't need to decide to never quit. You don't need to decide to never quit. You don't need to decide to never quit. You just need to decide right now I'm You just need to decide right now I'm You just need to decide right now I'm getting up. Right now I'll make one more getting up. Right now I'll make one more getting up. Right now I'll make one more call. Right now I'll do one more call. Right now I'll do one more call. Right now I'll do one more workout. Right now I'll read one more workout. Right now I'll read one more workout. Right now I'll read one more book. Right now I'll go one more day. book. Right now I'll go one more day. book. Right now I'll go one more day. Right now one more. Just do one more. Right now one more. Just do one more. Right now one more. Just do one more. It's such a powerful concept. If you've It's such a powerful concept. If you've It's such a powerful concept. If you've not read the power of one more, go get not read the power of one more, go get not read the power of one more, go get it. By the way, I should say this to it. By the way, I should say this to it. By the way, I should say this to you. You should be on my email list. I you. You should be on my email list. I you. You should be on my email list. I Everything I send you is going to be Everything I send you is going to be Everything I send you is going to be free if you go to edmmylet.com. free if you go to edmmylet.com. free if you go to edmmylet.com. Just put your email there. I think it Just put your email there. I think it Just put your email there. I think it says join here or follow here at the says join here or follow here at the says join here or follow here at the top. Whatever. Go to edmmylet.com and be top. Whatever. Go to edmmylet.com and be top. Whatever. Go to edmmylet.com and be in there. And by the way, let God's in there. And by the way, let God's in there. And by the way, let God's grace carry you and trust that he'll grace carry you and trust that he'll grace carry you and trust that he'll bring you through. But you got to step bring you through. But you got to step bring you through. But you got to step up and be resilient. Remember this, by up and be resilient. Remember this, by up and be resilient. Remember this, by the way, the best ability is the way, the best ability is the way, the best ability is availability. availability. availability. You got to be available. The great ones You got to be available. The great ones You got to be available. The great ones like Deion Sanders during that season, like Deion Sanders during that season, like Deion Sanders during that season, the best ability was he was available. the best ability was he was available. the best ability was he was available. So many people just aren't available. So many people just aren't available. So many people just aren't available. They miss too many hours. They miss too They miss too many hours. They miss too They miss too many hours. They miss too many meetings. They miss too much stuff. many meetings. They miss too much stuff. many meetings. They miss too much stuff. They allow too many things in their They allow too many things in their They allow too many things in their conditions to affect their behavior. The conditions to affect their behavior. The conditions to affect their behavior. The great ones do not do this. And that's great ones do not do this. And that's great ones do not do this. And that's why habits matter. Rituals matter. why habits matter. Rituals matter. why habits matter. Rituals matter. Routines matter. Because when we're Routines matter. Because when we're Routines matter. Because when we're down, when we're under pressure, down, when we're under pressure, down, when we're under pressure, when we're hurting, we resort to habit when we're hurting, we resort to habit when we're hurting, we resort to habit mode because our brain kind of checks mode because our brain kind of checks mode because our brain kind of checks out. And if your habit's to get up and out. And if your habit's to get up and out. And if your habit's to get up and fight, if your habit's to get up and do fight, if your habit's to get up and do fight, if your habit's to get up and do it anyway, if your habit is to show up it anyway, if your habit is to show up it anyway, if your habit is to show up and give it your best regardless of how and give it your best regardless of how and give it your best regardless of how you feel, then that will be your default you feel, then that will be your default you feel, then that will be your default setting. But if your habit has always setting. But if your habit has always setting. But if your habit has always been, and it's been mine in the past, been, and it's been mine in the past, been, and it's been mine in the past, yeah, I got to rest a little bit. I got yeah, I got to rest a little bit. I got yeah, I got to rest a little bit. I got to evaluate this. You know, I'm really to evaluate this. You know, I'm really to evaluate this. You know, I'm really hurting right now. hurting right now. hurting right now. They got to take a breather because They got to take a breather because They got to take a breather because that's what everybody does. But that's what everybody does. But that's what everybody does. But everybody's not successful. everybody's not successful. everybody's not successful. There's this whole thing in the world There's this whole thing in the world There's this whole thing in the world now. Everybody wants to be successful. now. Everybody wants to be successful. now. Everybody wants to be successful. Everybody wants to build a big company. Everybody wants to build a big company. Everybody wants to build a big company. Everybody wants a great body. Everybody Everybody wants a great body. Everybody Everybody wants a great body. Everybody wants a great relationship. Everybody wants a great relationship. Everybody wants a great relationship. Everybody wants a bunch of money. But nobody's wants a bunch of money. But nobody's wants a bunch of money. But nobody's willing to do the work on the hard days. willing to do the work on the hard days. willing to do the work on the hard days. They're willing to do the work on the They're willing to do the work on the They're willing to do the work on the good days. Man, I just listened to a good days. Man, I just listened to a good days. Man, I just listened to a great Instagram video. Man, I'm fired great Instagram video. Man, I'm fired great Instagram video. Man, I'm fired up. Yes, someone said yesterday. Here we up. Yes, someone said yesterday. Here we up. Yes, someone said yesterday. Here we go. But what happens when three nos in a go. But what happens when three nos in a go. But what happens when three nos in a row somebody quits on you? Somebody hurt row somebody quits on you? Somebody hurt row somebody quits on you? Somebody hurt you. And you're feeling physically ill. you. And you're feeling physically ill. you. And you're feeling physically ill. Can you get up those days? Can you push Can you get up those days? Can you push Can you get up those days? Can you push through? Can you do what winners do? And through? Can you do what winners do? And through? Can you do what winners do? And when you do what winners do, you get when you do what winners do, you get when you do what winners do, you get what winners get. You get what Jordan what winners get. You get what Jordan what winners get. You get what Jordan gets. You get what Carrie Scruggs gets. gets. You get what Carrie Scruggs gets. gets. You get what Carrie Scruggs gets. You get what Tiger Woods gets. There's a You get what Tiger Woods gets. There's a You get what Tiger Woods gets. There's a great story. Kobe Bryant tears his great story. Kobe Bryant tears his great story. Kobe Bryant tears his Achilles tendon. But they need him to Achilles tendon. But they need him to Achilles tendon. But they need him to make the free throw to stay in the game make the free throw to stay in the game make the free throw to stay in the game to win. They're like, "Kobe, you tore to win. They're like, "Kobe, you tore to win. They're like, "Kobe, you tore your Achilles. It's okay, bro. He We'll your Achilles. It's okay, bro. He We'll your Achilles. It's okay, bro. He We'll show you the clip. HE WALKS OUT ON THE show you the clip. HE WALKS OUT ON THE show you the clip. HE WALKS OUT ON THE COURT AND MAKES TWO free throws with a COURT AND MAKES TWO free throws with a COURT AND MAKES TWO free throws with a torn Achilles tendon. THAT'S WHY HE'S torn Achilles tendon. THAT'S WHY HE'S torn Achilles tendon. THAT'S WHY HE'S KOBE. THAT'S WHY HE WAS JORDAN. That's KOBE. THAT'S WHY HE WAS JORDAN. That's KOBE. THAT'S WHY HE WAS JORDAN. That's why he's Tiger. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS why he's Tiger. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS why he's Tiger. THAT'S WHY SHE WAS SERENA. That's why Carrie Scruggs is SERENA. That's why Carrie Scruggs is SERENA. That's why Carrie Scruggs is Carrie Scruggs. And I promise you, if Carrie Scruggs. And I promise you, if Carrie Scruggs. And I promise you, if you went through the lives of these you went through the lives of these you went through the lives of these people you admire, they played hurt. people you admire, they played hurt. people you admire, they played hurt. They found a way. They built that They found a way. They built that They found a way. They built that muscle. It's the separator. I tell my muscle. It's the separator. I tell my muscle. It's the separator. I tell my kids this all the time. Max when he kids this all the time. Max when he kids this all the time. Max when he golfs, you know, and he said to me, golfs, you know, and he said to me, golfs, you know, and he said to me, "Dad, I don't have my swing." Hey, Max, "Dad, I don't have my swing." Hey, Max, "Dad, I don't have my swing." Hey, Max, it's the days you don't have your swing. it's the days you don't have your swing. it's the days you don't have your swing. Hang in. Shoot a decent score today. Go Hang in. Shoot a decent score today. Go Hang in. Shoot a decent score today. Go work on your swing on the range after. work on your swing on the range after. work on your swing on the range after. Come back tomorrow with your A game, but Come back tomorrow with your A game, but Come back tomorrow with your A game, but you got to score with your B game or you got to score with your B game or you got to score with your B game or your D game. This is the separator and your D game. This is the separator and your D game. This is the separator and let God's grace carry you through. We let God's grace carry you through. We let God's grace carry you through. We all go through pain in our lives. We all all go through pain in our lives. We all all go through pain in our lives. We all do. It's part of life. It's It's like if do. It's part of life. It's It's like if do. It's part of life. It's It's like if you're not in pain right now, you're you're not in pain right now, you're you're not in pain right now, you're probably going to be soon. So, why not probably going to be soon. So, why not probably going to be soon. So, why not have a blueprint, a mindset, a habit, a have a blueprint, a mindset, a habit, a have a blueprint, a mindset, a habit, a way of being that says, "Oh, I see way of being that says, "Oh, I see way of being that says, "Oh, I see what's going on here, devil. Okay, I'm what's going on here, devil. Okay, I'm what's going on here, devil. Okay, I'm stepping up. I'm getting more faithful. stepping up. I'm getting more faithful. stepping up. I'm getting more faithful. I'm taking more action. I'm coming back I'm taking more action. I'm coming back I'm taking more action. I'm coming back stronger. I'm built for this." And by stronger. I'm built for this." And by stronger. I'm built for this." And by the way, I know some of you listening the way, I know some of you listening the way, I know some of you listening go, "I've just never been that way." go, "I've just never been that way." go, "I've just never been that way." That's okay. Neither were these people That's okay. Neither were these people That's okay. Neither were these people until they started to be that way. No until they started to be that way. No until they started to be that way. No one's born like that. What happens is one's born like that. What happens is one's born like that. What happens is they all hit a wall at one point and they all hit a wall at one point and they all hit a wall at one point and said, "I'm tired of running. I'm tired said, "I'm tired of running. I'm tired said, "I'm tired of running. I'm tired of quitting. I'm tired of giving in when of quitting. I'm tired of giving in when of quitting. I'm tired of giving in when I'm hurt. I'm tired of backing up. I'm I'm hurt. I'm tired of backing up. I'm I'm hurt. I'm tired of backing up. I'm going to stop. At some point, Kobe going to stop. At some point, Kobe going to stop. At some point, Kobe Bryant said, "I'm going to stop backing Bryant said, "I'm going to stop backing Bryant said, "I'm going to stop backing up. I'm going to stop making excuses. up. I'm going to stop making excuses. up. I'm going to stop making excuses. I'm going to stop quitting. I'm going to I'm going to stop quitting. I'm going to I'm going to stop quitting. I'm going to stop flinching stop flinching stop flinching and I'm going to step into this." At and I'm going to step into this." At and I'm going to step into this." At some point, I did. And I'm not some point, I did. And I'm not some point, I did. And I'm not acquitting myself with those people. But acquitting myself with those people. But acquitting myself with those people. But I know what it's like to give into an I know what it's like to give into an I know what it's like to give into an injury. I know what it's like to lay injury. I know what it's like to lay injury. I know what it's like to lay down too long when I'm down. I know many down too long when I'm down. I know many down too long when I'm down. I know many years ago, even at the prime of my years ago, even at the prime of my years ago, even at the prime of my health and fitness, I didn't work like I health and fitness, I didn't work like I health and fitness, I didn't work like I do now. And I'm probably in the worst do now. And I'm probably in the worst do now. And I'm probably in the worst physical condition I've been in in physical condition I've been in in physical condition I've been in in decades. Pro actually certainly ever. decades. Pro actually certainly ever. decades. Pro actually certainly ever. Yet, I think I've been delivering the Yet, I think I've been delivering the Yet, I think I've been delivering the best content of my life. Most athletes best content of my life. Most athletes best content of my life. Most athletes will tell you, by the way, any of you will tell you, by the way, any of you will tell you, by the way, any of you that played sports, my dad used to tell that played sports, my dad used to tell that played sports, my dad used to tell me this when I'd play sick, most me this when I'd play sick, most me this when I'd play sick, most athletes, most business people play athletes, most business people play athletes, most business people play better hurt, especially they got a better hurt, especially they got a better hurt, especially they got a little bit of a fever running. little bit of a fever running. little bit of a fever running. everything kind of slows down a little everything kind of slows down a little everything kind of slows down a little bit. It causes you to focus a little bit bit. It causes you to focus a little bit bit. It causes you to focus a little bit deeper and a little bit more. You kind deeper and a little bit more. You kind deeper and a little bit more. You kind of have to move out all the noise and of have to move out all the noise and of have to move out all the noise and stay in the moment because that's all stay in the moment because that's all stay in the moment because that's all you have energy for. A lot of times you have energy for. A lot of times you have energy for. A lot of times you're better. you're better. you're better. And here's the truth. None of that's And here's the truth. None of that's And here's the truth. None of that's real pain. I was thinking about real real pain. I was thinking about real real pain. I was thinking about real pain this morning. I woke up, had a lot pain this morning. I woke up, had a lot pain this morning. I woke up, had a lot on my mind, and I was still fuzzy from on my mind, and I was still fuzzy from on my mind, and I was still fuzzy from waking up. And I thought, "Oh, I'll call waking up. And I thought, "Oh, I'll call waking up. And I thought, "Oh, I'll call dad." And it wasn't for about 10 minutes dad." And it wasn't for about 10 minutes dad." And it wasn't for about 10 minutes until I got up and started to move until I got up and started to move until I got up and started to move around. I remembered I can't call my around. I remembered I can't call my around. I remembered I can't call my dad. My dad's been passed away now for 3 dad. My dad's been passed away now for 3 dad. My dad's been passed away now for 3 years. years. years. I don't know if any of you ever lost I don't know if any of you ever lost I don't know if any of you ever lost somebody, somebody, somebody, but every once in a while you forget. but every once in a while you forget. but every once in a while you forget. You have a great moment. You think You have a great moment. You think You have a great moment. You think you'll call them or you have a dream you'll call them or you have a dream you'll call them or you have a dream that's so real when they're in it. Yeah. that's so real when they're in it. Yeah. that's so real when they're in it. Yeah. And I woke up this morning and for about And I woke up this morning and for about And I woke up this morning and for about 10 minutes I was planning on calling my 10 minutes I was planning on calling my 10 minutes I was planning on calling my dad this morning and then I realized I dad this morning and then I realized I dad this morning and then I realized I can't. You don't know real pain until can't. You don't know real pain until can't. You don't know real pain until you crave a conversation with someone you crave a conversation with someone you crave a conversation with someone that's no longer with us. That's some that's no longer with us. That's some that's no longer with us. That's some pain. And then I had to decide today. pain. And then I had to decide today. pain. And then I had to decide today. Don't feel real good. Wish I could call Don't feel real good. Wish I could call Don't feel real good. Wish I could call my dad and I can't. That hurts. I think I'll honor him with what I do I think I'll honor him with what I do today. I could have chose a different today. I could have chose a different today. I could have chose a different decision. Yeah, decision. Yeah, decision. Yeah, I worked real hard. I've got got a I worked real hard. I've got got a I worked real hard. I've got got a little bit of money. It' be okay if I little bit of money. It' be okay if I little bit of money. It' be okay if I kicked the curb can down the curb a kicked the curb can down the curb a kicked the curb can down the curb a little bit. Did this tomorrow. little bit. Did this tomorrow. little bit. Did this tomorrow. I don't want to do that. In fact, what I don't want to do that. In fact, what I don't want to do that. In fact, what my producer will tell you is I texted my producer will tell you is I texted my producer will tell you is I texted him about two hours ago. I said, "Let's him about two hours ago. I said, "Let's him about two hours ago. I said, "Let's do one more today, too." So, we're do one more today, too." So, we're do one more today, too." So, we're actually doing more today. He probably actually doing more today. He probably actually doing more today. He probably wondered why. He's learning right now. I wondered why. He's learning right now. I wondered why. He's learning right now. I decided to do more today because it's decided to do more today because it's decided to do more today because it's one of those days. I'm not going to meet one of those days. I'm not going to meet one of those days. I'm not going to meet my normal standard. I'm going to do one my normal standard. I'm going to do one my normal standard. I'm going to do one more. more. more. So, real pain is that stuff. So, real pain is that stuff. So, real pain is that stuff. And if you have that in your life where And if you have that in your life where And if you have that in your life where you can't call someone because they're you can't call someone because they're you can't call someone because they're not here anymore, honor them and make not here anymore, honor them and make not here anymore, honor them and make them proud of you with what you do on them proud of you with what you do on them proud of you with what you do on the days you're hurting. You wrote one the days you're hurting. You wrote one the days you're hurting. You wrote one about adversity. Yes. And I'm like, about adversity. Yes. And I'm like, about adversity. Yes. And I'm like, because there's a ton of topics you because there's a ton of topics you because there's a ton of topics you could have done about, you know, could have done about, you know, could have done about, you know, overcoming limiting beliefs, overcoming overcoming limiting beliefs, overcoming overcoming limiting beliefs, overcoming your environment, because you had you your environment, because you had you your environment, because you had you transcended an environment, which is transcended an environment, which is transcended an environment, which is very rare in life. very rare in life. very rare in life. >> Why is adversity the topic of the book? >> Why is adversity the topic of the book? >> Why is adversity the topic of the book? And why did you think this is the thing And why did you think this is the thing And why did you think this is the thing I want to talk about? I want to talk about? I want to talk about? >> Oh, wow. That's a great question. Um, >> Oh, wow. That's a great question. Um, >> Oh, wow. That's a great question. Um, that's what I pride myself in. You know that's what I pride myself in. You know that's what I pride myself in. You know what I'm saying? Like I I would be that what I'm saying? Like I I would be that what I'm saying? Like I I would be that adversity specialist, if you will. Yeah. adversity specialist, if you will. Yeah. adversity specialist, if you will. Yeah. Um, that's what keeps me going. That's Um, that's what keeps me going. That's Um, that's what keeps me going. That's that's that's my purpose. My purpose is that's that's my purpose. My purpose is that's that's my purpose. My purpose is to continue to evolve no matter what, to continue to evolve no matter what, to continue to evolve no matter what, >> but to continue to give that information >> but to continue to give that information >> but to continue to give that information back to my culture and to my people and back to my culture and to my people and back to my culture and to my people and to be an example of what it's like to to to be an example of what it's like to to to be an example of what it's like to to come out of that. Because every come out of that. Because every come out of that. Because every situation that I've been in, and it's situation that I've been in, and it's situation that I've been in, and it's funny that we was talking about God, I funny that we was talking about God, I funny that we was talking about God, I don't care how crazy it got, he always don't care how crazy it got, he always don't care how crazy it got, he always put somebody in my life around the time put somebody in my life around the time put somebody in my life around the time that I needed some information or a ear that I needed some information or a ear that I needed some information or a ear or a connection or just the process. It or a connection or just the process. It or a connection or just the process. It never fails, right? And never fails, right? And never fails, right? And I believe I truly believe that he does I believe I truly believe that he does I believe I truly believe that he does that for me to show people that you can that for me to show people that you can that for me to show people that you can maintain your integrity and and and be a maintain your integrity and and and be a maintain your integrity and and and be a solid individual and still survive, solid individual and still survive, solid individual and still survive, right? Love it. right? Love it. right? Love it. >> You know, without without doing anything >> You know, without without doing anything >> You know, without without doing anything that would go against who you are as a that would go against who you are as a that would go against who you are as a man man man >> and then your legacy because you you >> and then your legacy because you you >> and then your legacy because you you know, you when you think about some of know, you when you think about some of know, you when you think about some of the great leaders, they did great the great leaders, they did great the great leaders, they did great things, right? M things, right? M things, right? M >> but their integrity is what kept you >> but their integrity is what kept you >> but their integrity is what kept you locked into them, right? Because you got locked into them, right? Because you got locked into them, right? Because you got people that successful, but they did a people that successful, but they did a people that successful, but they did a lot of foul things. And when you hear lot of foul things. And when you hear lot of foul things. And when you hear people talk about them, you're like, people talk about them, you're like, people talk about them, you're like, "Wow, I never knew that." "Wow, I never knew that." "Wow, I never knew that." >> And and and adversity to me is that >> And and and adversity to me is that >> And and and adversity to me is that small small small glare of hope. Because if I tell you glare of hope. Because if I tell you glare of hope. Because if I tell you what I went through in this book, your what I went through in this book, your what I went through in this book, your life might be totally different, but you life might be totally different, but you life might be totally different, but you might be up against the same odds. might be up against the same odds. might be up against the same odds. >> I can tell you that that's the truth. My >> I can tell you that that's the truth. My >> I can tell you that that's the truth. My life is totally different than yours. life is totally different than yours. life is totally different than yours. But I [laughter] But I [laughter] But I [laughter] >> see great storytellers um tell me >> see great storytellers um tell me >> see great storytellers um tell me stories with a you meaning stories with a you meaning stories with a you meaning >> right. >> right. >> right. >> So as I read your work, I didn't grow up >> So as I read your work, I didn't grow up >> So as I read your work, I didn't grow up like that, but I have my version of it like that, but I have my version of it like that, but I have my version of it in my life. And so the lessons in the in my life. And so the lessons in the in my life. And so the lessons in the book, the lessons in this conversation, book, the lessons in this conversation, book, the lessons in this conversation, >> I don't care what someone's life story >> I don't care what someone's life story >> I don't care what someone's life story is. These are facts. Like is. These are facts. Like is. These are facts. Like >> right, >> right, >> right, >> you said something so important that God >> you said something so important that God >> you said something so important that God has sent you that person when you needed has sent you that person when you needed has sent you that person when you needed them. The information, the insight, them. The information, the insight, them. The information, the insight, whatever it might be. whatever it might be. whatever it might be. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I want everybody to hear this man said >> I want everybody to hear this man said >> I want everybody to hear this man said this. And the reason that I want you to this. And the reason that I want you to this. And the reason that I want you to hear it is he does that for you, too. hear it is he does that for you, too. hear it is he does that for you, too. The difference is The difference is The difference is >> you need to be in expectation that he's >> you need to be in expectation that he's >> you need to be in expectation that he's going to and aware that he's going to going to and aware that he's going to going to and aware that he's going to because he has probably sent those because he has probably sent those because he has probably sent those people to you previously in your life. people to you previously in your life. people to you previously in your life. And if you're not aware he's doing it or And if you're not aware he's doing it or And if you're not aware he's doing it or open to the possibility he's doing it, open to the possibility he's doing it, open to the possibility he's doing it, >> you will miss them. >> you will miss them. >> you will miss them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You will miss them. It's like that >> You will miss them. It's like that >> You will miss them. It's like that analogy of the people that are sitting analogy of the people that are sitting analogy of the people that are sitting on the roof during the flood. Someone on the roof during the flood. Someone on the roof during the flood. Someone comes by and says, "Hey, jump on the comes by and says, "Hey, jump on the comes by and says, "Hey, jump on the boat." Nope. I'm waiting for God to save boat." Nope. I'm waiting for God to save boat." Nope. I'm waiting for God to save me. Somebody else [laughter] comes by in me. Somebody else [laughter] comes by in me. Somebody else [laughter] comes by in a boat. I'm waiting for God to save me. a boat. I'm waiting for God to save me. a boat. I'm waiting for God to save me. Third guy comes by in a boat. I'm Third guy comes by in a boat. I'm Third guy comes by in a boat. I'm waiting for God to save me. Then they waiting for God to save me. Then they waiting for God to save me. Then they drowned and they get to heaven and they drowned and they get to heaven and they drowned and they get to heaven and they go, "God, I thought you were going to go, "God, I thought you were going to go, "God, I thought you were going to save me." Goes, "I sent three damn save me." Goes, "I sent three damn save me." Goes, "I sent three damn people in a boat. people in a boat. people in a boat. >> Three boats. >> Three boats. >> Three boats. >> Get in the damn boat." Right? And so >> Get in the damn boat." Right? And so >> Get in the damn boat." Right? And so there's a there's some there there's you there's a there's some there there's you there's a there's some there there's you have to be an expectation that God is have to be an expectation that God is have to be an expectation that God is going to send you a blessing at some going to send you a blessing at some going to send you a blessing at some point. But if you're not looking for it point. But if you're not looking for it point. But if you're not looking for it and expecting it, you don't hear them or and expecting it, you don't hear them or and expecting it, you don't hear them or see them or feel them. And then you miss see them or feel them. And then you miss see them or feel them. And then you miss them. them. them. >> You have to be in a good place, too, >> You have to be in a good place, too, >> You have to be in a good place, too, though. You have to be in a good place though. You have to be in a good place though. You have to be in a good place with yourself. I really realized that with yourself. I really realized that with yourself. I really realized that cuz there was times that I wasn't in a cuz there was times that I wasn't in a cuz there was times that I wasn't in a good place with myself and it was just a good place with myself and it was just a good place with myself and it was just a bunch of noise. I let things on the bunch of noise. I let things on the bunch of noise. I let things on the outside of me um control my emotions, outside of me um control my emotions, outside of me um control my emotions, how I felt. You know what I'm saying? I how I felt. You know what I'm saying? I how I felt. You know what I'm saying? I I I just had to come to a place where I I just had to come to a place where I I just had to come to a place where and I'm not there yet, of course, but I and I'm not there yet, of course, but I and I'm not there yet, of course, but I just started to understand what what just started to understand what what just started to understand what what peace peace peace >> was like to get a little >> was like to get a little >> was like to get a little >> taste of that. And I started to >> taste of that. And I started to >> taste of that. And I started to understand what going inward was about understand what going inward was about understand what going inward was about because the minute I started going because the minute I started going because the minute I started going inward, everything changed, right? inward, everything changed, right? inward, everything changed, right? Because now I'm not I I can't fault Because now I'm not I I can't fault Because now I'm not I I can't fault anyone in my life for what they done to anyone in my life for what they done to anyone in my life for what they done to me. me. me. >> I have to look inside and see what how I >> I have to look inside and see what how I >> I have to look inside and see what how I reacted or what I've done reacted or what I've done reacted or what I've done >> to contribute to that. Right? And and I >> to contribute to that. Right? And and I >> to contribute to that. Right? And and I can't blame anyone else, right? And for can't blame anyone else, right? And for can't blame anyone else, right? And for me, um, when I started to understand me, um, when I started to understand me, um, when I started to understand that is when things started to slow that is when things started to slow that is when things started to slow down, right? Because I wasn't present. I down, right? Because I wasn't present. I down, right? Because I wasn't present. I go have conversations with people. It's go have conversations with people. It's go have conversations with people. It's all on the surface. Yeah, it's all good. all on the surface. Yeah, it's all good. all on the surface. Yeah, it's all good. Whatever. I'm gone. But then I just Whatever. I'm gone. But then I just Whatever. I'm gone. But then I just started taking time like to look people started taking time like to look people started taking time like to look people in their eyes and be like, are you all in their eyes and be like, are you all in their eyes and be like, are you all right, man? How you feeling? Like, right, man? How you feeling? Like, right, man? How you feeling? Like, what's going on? And started to have what's going on? And started to have what's going on? And started to have conversations where I wasn't, conversations where I wasn't, conversations where I wasn't, >> you know, leading all of the >> you know, leading all of the >> you know, leading all of the conversation like, you know, just tell conversation like, you know, just tell conversation like, you know, just tell me, you know, how you feeling? What's me, you know, how you feeling? What's me, you know, how you feeling? What's going on? And when people came to me, I going on? And when people came to me, I going on? And when people came to me, I you know, you know, and I pride myself you know, you know, and I pride myself you know, you know, and I pride myself on having a lot of advice. That's just on having a lot of advice. That's just on having a lot of advice. That's just like my thing. You know, I think I'm like my thing. You know, I think I'm like my thing. You know, I think I'm like, like, like, >> you know, the therapist among the crew, >> you know, the therapist among the crew, >> you know, the therapist among the crew, you know what I'm saying? But I ask you know what I'm saying? But I ask you know what I'm saying? But I ask them, I ask them now, though. I say, you them, I ask them now, though. I say, you them, I ask them now, though. I say, you know, one is, you know, do you want me know, one is, you know, do you want me know, one is, you know, do you want me to just listen? You know what I'm to just listen? You know what I'm to just listen? You know what I'm saying? Two is, do you want me to tell saying? Two is, do you want me to tell saying? Two is, do you want me to tell you what I think? Or three is do you you what I think? Or three is do you you what I think? Or three is do you want me to side with you? Because I want me to side with you? Because I want me to side with you? Because I could do that, too. You know what I'm could do that, too. You know what I'm could do that, too. You know what I'm saying? So, I could be like, oh, that's saying? So, I could be like, oh, that's saying? So, I could be like, oh, that's crazy. That should have never happened. crazy. That should have never happened. crazy. That should have never happened. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> And I started to understand because, you >> And I started to understand because, you >> And I started to understand because, you know, where we come from, it's hard for know, where we come from, it's hard for know, where we come from, it's hard for somebody to tell you how they really somebody to tell you how they really somebody to tell you how they really feel. It took me until I was 40 to tell feel. It took me until I was 40 to tell feel. It took me until I was 40 to tell somebody I was I wasn't I was sad or I somebody I was I wasn't I was sad or I somebody I was I wasn't I was sad or I was depressed. You know what I'm saying? was depressed. You know what I'm saying? was depressed. You know what I'm saying? Think about that. Think about that. Think about that. >> Or or I don't I I I don't feel confident >> Or or I don't I I I don't feel confident >> Or or I don't I I I don't feel confident about this. You know what I'm saying? Or about this. You know what I'm saying? Or about this. You know what I'm saying? Or or that I I'm I might be, you know, or that I I'm I might be, you know, or that I I'm I might be, you know, concerned. concerned. concerned. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because when you're that guy, you have >> Because when you're that guy, you have >> Because when you're that guy, you have to to to >> can't show weakness. >> can't show weakness. >> can't show weakness. >> Yeah. You can't show anything. >> Yeah. You can't show anything. >> Yeah. You can't show anything. >> You said earlier, I'm depressed. I'm >> You said earlier, I'm depressed. I'm >> You said earlier, I'm depressed. I'm drinking. Right. drinking. Right. drinking. Right. >> I'm drinking a bottle of champagne in >> I'm drinking a bottle of champagne in >> I'm drinking a bottle of champagne in the morning. Moving a tequila in the the morning. Moving a tequila in the the morning. Moving a tequila in the afternoon. Right. You're eating. You're afternoon. Right. You're eating. You're afternoon. Right. You're eating. You're heavy. heavy. heavy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. You're stressed. You're worried. >> Right. You're stressed. You're worried. >> Right. You're stressed. You're worried. You're running. You're running. You're You're running. You're running. You're You're running. You're running. You're running. Is there any one thing you did running. Is there any one thing you did running. Is there any one thing you did or was there any one moment or was it or was there any one moment or was it or was there any one moment or was it just an accumulation of things you're just an accumulation of things you're just an accumulation of things you're like, "That's enough. I can't do this like, "That's enough. I can't do this like, "That's enough. I can't do this anymore." anymore." anymore." >> I would say this. I didn't have a >> I would say this. I didn't have a >> I would say this. I didn't have a purpose before then. purpose before then. purpose before then. >> I was just chasing money and trying to >> I was just chasing money and trying to >> I was just chasing money and trying to get out of my situation. get out of my situation. get out of my situation. >> And he did that. God did that for me. He >> And he did that. God did that for me. He >> And he did that. God did that for me. He took me out of my situation. And I'm took me out of my situation. And I'm took me out of my situation. And I'm four albums in about 8 million records four albums in about 8 million records four albums in about 8 million records sold. sold. sold. >> Crazy. >> Crazy. >> Crazy. >> Like, but what am I doing for him? >> Like, but what am I doing for him? >> Like, but what am I doing for him? >> What how am I continuing his message? >> What how am I continuing his message? >> What how am I continuing his message? What What am I doing? He He g He took me What What am I doing? He He g He took me What What am I doing? He He g He took me out of a situation where I could have out of a situation where I could have out of a situation where I could have had a life sentence. It was there. had a life sentence. It was there. had a life sentence. It was there. >> I I still don't know how I >> I I still don't know how I >> I I still don't know how I I think about that all the time, but it I think about that all the time, but it I think about that all the time, but it was there, right? And I've lost, was there, right? And I've lost, was there, right? And I've lost, >> you know, so many people. And I sat >> you know, so many people. And I sat >> you know, so many people. And I sat there and I'm just like, yo, like, you there and I'm just like, yo, like, you there and I'm just like, yo, like, you know, right now I'm the issue. I need to know, right now I'm the issue. I need to know, right now I'm the issue. I need to work on myself because the things that I work on myself because the things that I work on myself because the things that I have going on inside of me is no way to have going on inside of me is no way to have going on inside of me is no way to lead anyone, right? And I'm making lead anyone, right? And I'm making lead anyone, right? And I'm making music, so I got millions of people music, so I got millions of people music, so I got millions of people listening to me and and listen to what listening to me and and listen to what listening to me and and listen to what I'm saying. I'm not a saint, I'm saying. I'm not a saint, I'm saying. I'm not a saint, >> but I do got common sense, right? And >> but I do got common sense, right? And >> but I do got common sense, right? And it's just like I'm I'm saying things it's just like I'm I'm saying things it's just like I'm I'm saying things that might affect people in different that might affect people in different that might affect people in different ways, but I'm like, and my thing is the ways, but I'm like, and my thing is the ways, but I'm like, and my thing is the audio got to match the video, right? So, audio got to match the video, right? So, audio got to match the video, right? So, I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying this stuff, I'm saying this stuff, I'm saying this stuff, >> but I'm doing something else, right? And >> but I'm doing something else, right? And >> but I'm doing something else, right? And I got to get on line with what I'm I got to get on line with what I'm I got to get on line with what I'm saying, right? So, now I'm I'm walking saying, right? So, now I'm I'm walking saying, right? So, now I'm I'm walking into and it was the scariest thing in my into and it was the scariest thing in my into and it was the scariest thing in my life. And by the way, just so we clear life. And by the way, just so we clear life. And by the way, just so we clear like like like I was met with a moment where I knew it I was met with a moment where I knew it I was met with a moment where I knew it was a moment. Meaning, I was I was my was a moment. Meaning, I was I was my was a moment. Meaning, I was I was my first album came out. I was selling um first album came out. I was selling um first album came out. I was selling um and this is uh uh uh Statue of and this is uh uh uh Statue of and this is uh uh uh Statue of Limitations, by the way. Anybody listen, Limitations, by the way. Anybody listen, Limitations, by the way. Anybody listen, I'm good. I talked to my lawyers about I'm good. I talked to my lawyers about I'm good. I talked to my lawyers about it [laughter] it [laughter] it [laughter] and I had to make and I had to make and I had to make I had to make a decision uh which was I had to make a decision uh which was I had to make a decision uh which was one of the the biggest decisions. I had one of the the biggest decisions. I had one of the the biggest decisions. I had to make a decision to make a decision to make a decision what I was going to do because I was what I was going to do because I was what I was going to do because I was trying to balance the streets and music trying to balance the streets and music trying to balance the streets and music and I had some small piece of success and I had some small piece of success and I had some small piece of success and I had to walk away cold turkey from and I had to walk away cold turkey from and I had to walk away cold turkey from the streets. Now mind you that mean the streets. Now mind you that mean the streets. Now mind you that mean depend on music depend on music depend on music >> right? And when I did that >> right? And when I did that >> right? And when I did that >> I had three of those nexttail chirp >> I had three of those nexttail chirp >> I had three of those nexttail chirp phones. That's what we used to talk on. phones. That's what we used to talk on. phones. That's what we used to talk on. Yep. Yep. Yep. >> And all those phones had a lot of money >> And all those phones had a lot of money >> And all those phones had a lot of money on them. Like I people owed me money. on them. Like I people owed me money. on them. Like I people owed me money. >> And I woke up and I just said, "I'm not >> And I woke up and I just said, "I'm not >> And I woke up and I just said, "I'm not doing this no more." I put the phones in doing this no more." I put the phones in doing this no more." I put the phones in the bag, threw them in the uh trash bin the bag, threw them in the uh trash bin the bag, threw them in the uh trash bin in my building and I and I walked away, in my building and I and I walked away, in my building and I and I walked away, right? right? right? >> And that was like my first like, "Okay, >> And that was like my first like, "Okay, >> And that was like my first like, "Okay, I'm going to do this music stuff." Now, I'm going to do this music stuff." Now, I'm going to do this music stuff." Now, mind you, about eight months later, I'm mind you, about eight months later, I'm mind you, about eight months later, I'm performing at a show and tear my vocal performing at a show and tear my vocal performing at a show and tear my vocal cords. Now I can't talk. Oh my god. cords. Now I can't talk. Oh my god. cords. Now I can't talk. Oh my god. >> I got a record deal with a major label. >> I got a record deal with a major label. >> I got a record deal with a major label. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> I can't talk. I got shows booked up from >> I can't talk. I got shows booked up from >> I can't talk. I got shows booked up from here to 2000 whatever. I can't go on the here to 2000 whatever. I can't go on the here to 2000 whatever. I can't go on the stage. And that was the first time he stage. And that was the first time he stage. And that was the first time he humbled me. humbled me. humbled me. >> He humbled me. He humbled me. >> He humbled me. He humbled me. >> He humbled me. He humbled me. >> He humbled me. And I had to really look >> He humbled me. And I had to really look >> He humbled me. And I had to really look at this and go, I'm so close. at this and go, I'm so close. at this and go, I'm so close. >> I'm this could happen. What What do I >> I'm this could happen. What What do I >> I'm this could happen. What What do I need to do? And that was just a lot of need to do? And that was just a lot of need to do? And that was just a lot of praying, a lot of confusion. And then he praying, a lot of confusion. And then he praying, a lot of confusion. And then he let me live. I got a throat surgery that let me live. I got a throat surgery that let me live. I got a throat surgery that I didn't have insurance at the time. I didn't have insurance at the time. I didn't have insurance at the time. Imagine I had Lamborghinis, all this Imagine I had Lamborghinis, all this Imagine I had Lamborghinis, all this stuff, and no no health insurance. stuff, and no no health insurance. stuff, and no no health insurance. Imagine that. So, I had to pay for my Imagine that. So, I had to pay for my Imagine that. So, I had to pay for my surgery with cash surgery with cash surgery with cash >> and then I got back out there >> and then I got back out there >> and then I got back out there >> and I started the same same thing. >> and I started the same same thing. >> and I started the same same thing. >> And then that's when he hit me again >> And then that's when he hit me again >> And then that's when he hit me again with Bell's pausy. with Bell's pausy. with Bell's pausy. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> He hit me with Bell's pausy and my face >> He hit me with Bell's pausy and my face >> He hit me with Bell's pausy and my face >> for real. >> for real. >> for real. >> Yeah. My face >> Yeah. My face >> Yeah. My face >> got crooked and my mouth was and it was >> got crooked and my mouth was and it was >> got crooked and my mouth was and it was like my eye was shut. So, like my eye was shut. So, like my eye was shut. So, >> was that from stress? And that was God >> was that from stress? And that was God >> was that from stress? And that was God >> cuz I he he he let me live again. And I >> cuz I he he he let me live again. And I >> cuz I he he he let me live again. And I went back out and started doing the same went back out and started doing the same went back out and started doing the same thing thing thing >> and was going about it the same way. And >> and was going about it the same way. And >> and was going about it the same way. And after that, I was just like, you know after that, I was just like, you know after that, I was just like, you know what, man? I got to change something what, man? I got to change something what, man? I got to change something because I've been too blessed. because I've been too blessed. because I've been too blessed. >> You know what I'm saying? And and and >> You know what I'm saying? And and and >> You know what I'm saying? And and and and now and now and now >> I'm I'm looking at it and I'm going like >> I'm I'm looking at it and I'm going like >> I'm I'm looking at it and I'm going like the next thing might not even be the next thing might not even be the next thing might not even be something I can recover from. something I can recover from. something I can recover from. >> And that's what started me to just start >> And that's what started me to just start >> And that's what started me to just start to understand that I got to start fixing to understand that I got to start fixing to understand that I got to start fixing some of my ways. And it first started some of my ways. And it first started some of my ways. And it first started with like a lot of like personal stuff I with like a lot of like personal stuff I with like a lot of like personal stuff I would do would do would do >> like you know just >> like you know just >> like you know just >> you know I I came from a situation where >> you know I I came from a situation where >> you know I I came from a situation where if you sit down with somebody it's like if you sit down with somebody it's like if you sit down with somebody it's like sitting down and you're being sitting down and you're being sitting down and you're being interrogated. I'm not going to tell you interrogated. I'm not going to tell you interrogated. I'm not going to tell you the truth. You know what I'm saying? I the truth. You know what I'm saying? I the truth. You know what I'm saying? I can't. You know what I'm saying? It's can't. You know what I'm saying? It's can't. You know what I'm saying? It's like it's against the code and it might like it's against the code and it might like it's against the code and it might get me in a lot of trouble. But then I get me in a lot of trouble. But then I get me in a lot of trouble. But then I started to notice that a grown man started to notice that a grown man started to notice that a grown man should never lie should never lie should never lie >> even if it's going to get him out of >> even if it's going to get him out of >> even if it's going to get him out of trouble. trouble. trouble. >> You know what I'm saying? So now I got >> You know what I'm saying? So now I got >> You know what I'm saying? So now I got to change this. You know that wasn't to change this. You know that wasn't to change this. You know that wasn't easy to do because I was taught to say easy to do because I was taught to say easy to do because I was taught to say whatever I had to say whatever I had to say whatever I had to say >> to get out of any situation. and now I'm >> to get out of any situation. and now I'm >> to get out of any situation. and now I'm having to work through this. And that having to work through this. And that having to work through this. And that was like the first step. And then it was like the first step. And then it was like the first step. And then it started going on different steps, started going on different steps, started going on different steps, different steps. And when I got to a different steps. And when I got to a different steps. And when I got to a place where I started to um to answer place where I started to um to answer place where I started to um to answer your question, when I started to realize your question, when I started to realize your question, when I started to realize that I got to I got to do some work, that I got to I got to do some work, that I got to I got to do some work, >> right? I didn't know where I didn't know >> right? I didn't know where I didn't know >> right? I didn't know where I didn't know where to start. I just started YouTube where to start. I just started YouTube where to start. I just started YouTube and stuff, talking to older people, and stuff, talking to older people, and stuff, talking to older people, >> telling I had my business partner now. >> telling I had my business partner now. >> telling I had my business partner now. He's been my business partner for like He's been my business partner for like He's been my business partner for like 20 years. I would just go sit with him 20 years. I would just go sit with him 20 years. I would just go sit with him and tell him what's really going on. I'm and tell him what's really going on. I'm and tell him what's really going on. I'm like, man, I got about five people like, man, I got about five people like, man, I got about five people trying to kill me. like I got beef with trying to kill me. like I got beef with trying to kill me. like I got beef with these guys over here and that and then these guys over here and that and then these guys over here and that and then this is happening that I was in a this is happening that I was in a this is happening that I was in a shootout last week and now this is that shootout last week and now this is that shootout last week and now this is that and I got to go to California and this and I got to go to California and this and I got to go to California and this is happening and he's just like okay is happening and he's just like okay is happening and he's just like okay okay just calm down okay what are you okay just calm down okay what are you okay just calm down okay what are you what are you concerned about most and what are you concerned about most and what are you concerned about most and then we started to like work through then we started to like work through then we started to like work through problems and he's like okay well you problems and he's like okay well you problems and he's like okay well you have you ever thought about reaching out have you ever thought about reaching out have you ever thought about reaching out to them and you know just having a to them and you know just having a to them and you know just having a conversation but my thing was you know conversation but my thing was you know conversation but my thing was you know they're the opposition so I got to I got they're the opposition so I got to I got they're the opposition so I got to I got to I got to press to I got to press to I got to press >> cuz I can't I can't let my guys >> cuz I can't I can't let my guys >> cuz I can't I can't let my guys >> think that I'm trying to >> think that I'm trying to >> think that I'm trying to >> sort all these things out and and I >> sort all these things out and and I >> sort all these things out and and I start to understand that there is a such start to understand that there is a such start to understand that there is a such thing called conflict resolution. So thing called conflict resolution. So thing called conflict resolution. So that started to help me out a little bit that started to help me out a little bit that started to help me out a little bit as far as my life and now I got in a as far as my life and now I got in a as far as my life and now I got in a space where I started having a little space where I started having a little space where I started having a little peace and I was able to start like peace and I was able to start like peace and I was able to start like working on myself like my health and working on myself like my health and working on myself like my health and reading books and just all these reading books and just all these reading books and just all these different things and that thirst for different things and that thirst for different things and that thirst for knowledge kicked back in because I hate knowledge kicked back in because I hate knowledge kicked back in because I hate learning in school. When I was in school learning in school. When I was in school learning in school. When I was in school like I dropped out of school in the like I dropped out of school in the like I dropped out of school in the sixth grade I got my GED when I was in sixth grade I got my GED when I was in sixth grade I got my GED when I was in boot camp. boot camp. boot camp. >> That's crazy, >> That's crazy, >> That's crazy, >> right? And then when and like in and >> right? And then when and like in and >> right? And then when and like in and around that time it just hit me again. around that time it just hit me again. around that time it just hit me again. And I just had this thirst for like And I just had this thirst for like And I just had this thirst for like knowledge. And I just started going knowledge. And I just started going knowledge. And I just started going around asking people questions. And around asking people questions. And around asking people questions. And think about this now. It went from me think about this now. It went from me think about this now. It went from me asking, you know, somebody that I knew asking, you know, somebody that I knew asking, you know, somebody that I knew that worked at a restaurant that I just that worked at a restaurant that I just that worked at a restaurant that I just felt like was had some type of prestige felt like was had some type of prestige felt like was had some type of prestige from that point to me from that point to me from that point to me >> calling John Maxwell and going, "Hey, >> calling John Maxwell and going, "Hey, >> calling John Maxwell and going, "Hey, >> uh, I got seven questions I need to ask >> uh, I got seven questions I need to ask >> uh, I got seven questions I need to ask you." You know, John, he like shoot them you." You know, John, he like shoot them you." You know, John, he like shoot them at me. to that to Robert Green, you at me. to that to Robert Green, you at me. to that to Robert Green, you know, to Robin Sherman, to all these know, to Robin Sherman, to all these know, to Robin Sherman, to all these different different different >> Tony Robbins and all these and not to >> Tony Robbins and all these and not to >> Tony Robbins and all these and not to like name drop, but it's just like like name drop, but it's just like like name drop, but it's just like >> I'm getting this information now to give >> I'm getting this information now to give >> I'm getting this information now to give back to the culture. Yep. back to the culture. Yep. back to the culture. Yep. >> Because I'm able to go outside of my >> Because I'm able to go outside of my >> Because I'm able to go outside of my comfort zone to get it. But this stuff comfort zone to get it. But this stuff comfort zone to get it. But this stuff helps me with my life as well. Like we helps me with my life as well. Like we helps me with my life as well. Like we was talking about Lewis earlier, like was talking about Lewis earlier, like was talking about Lewis earlier, like but I've always been that type of but I've always been that type of but I've always been that type of person. So to answer your question, I person. So to answer your question, I person. So to answer your question, I got the information from the people that got the information from the people that got the information from the people that I respected at the time that I was able I respected at the time that I was able I respected at the time that I was able to mingle with. And I don't come as a to mingle with. And I don't come as a to mingle with. And I don't come as a you know, my reputation exceeds me. you know, my reputation exceeds me. you know, my reputation exceeds me. Meaning like I don't come And by the Meaning like I don't come And by the Meaning like I don't come And by the way, the most gangsters guys where I'm way, the most gangsters guys where I'm way, the most gangsters guys where I'm from are the coolest guys you ever see. from are the coolest guys you ever see. from are the coolest guys you ever see. They're not loud. They're not They're not loud. They're not They're not loud. They're not boisterous. They're like Denzel and uh boisterous. They're like Denzel and uh boisterous. They're like Denzel and uh American Gangster. [laughter] American Gangster. [laughter] American Gangster. [laughter] >> They're real smooth, but but they will >> They're real smooth, but but they will >> They're real smooth, but but they will reach out and touch you. I can tell you reach out and touch you. I can tell you reach out and touch you. I can tell you this is like an alltime great this is like an alltime great this is like an alltime great conversation. It's all time. Great conversation. It's all time. Great conversation. It's all time. Great conversation. A lot of things about you conversation. A lot of things about you conversation. A lot of things about you that I noticed. One is like how that I noticed. One is like how that I noticed. One is like how self-aware you are. Just driving out self-aware you are. Just driving out self-aware you are. Just driving out here. It's like I think you were here here. It's like I think you were here here. It's like I think you were here today like there's millions of people be today like there's millions of people be today like there's millions of people be like, "Oh my god, this is unbelievable." like, "Oh my god, this is unbelievable." like, "Oh my god, this is unbelievable." >> But at the same time, >> But at the same time, >> But at the same time, >> lately on this show, God sends me the >> lately on this show, God sends me the >> lately on this show, God sends me the right person in that seat for me. right person in that seat for me. right person in that seat for me. >> Like I was I've got some stuff going on >> Like I was I've got some stuff going on >> Like I was I've got some stuff going on in my life right now that's not great. in my life right now that's not great. in my life right now that's not great. And um some of it's betrayal stuff with And um some of it's betrayal stuff with And um some of it's betrayal stuff with other people like we're talking about. other people like we're talking about. other people like we're talking about. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] >> However, I was just talking to somebody >> However, I was just talking to somebody >> However, I was just talking to somebody actually someone that's producing a TV actually someone that's producing a TV actually someone that's producing a TV show I'm doing right now. Literally show I'm doing right now. Literally show I'm doing right now. Literally before you got here, I was driving out before you got here, I was driving out before you got here, I was driving out here and I said, I I want to figure out here and I said, I I want to figure out here and I said, I I want to figure out what God's trying to teach me with this what God's trying to teach me with this what God's trying to teach me with this lesson. And that's one of the things you lesson. And that's one of the things you lesson. And that's one of the things you said earlier is like, what am I supposed said earlier is like, what am I supposed said earlier is like, what am I supposed to be learning from this? What am I to be learning from this? What am I to be learning from this? What am I supposed to be? I'm not going to get supposed to be? I'm not going to get supposed to be? I'm not going to get nothing for Eric Thomas says all the nothing for Eric Thomas says all the nothing for Eric Thomas says all the time, you better get something for your time, you better get something for your time, you better get something for your pain, pain, pain, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> You know, and the other thing you do >> You know, and the other thing you do >> You know, and the other thing you do very well is a lot of times when you very well is a lot of times when you very well is a lot of times when you begin to teach things you're learning, begin to teach things you're learning, begin to teach things you're learning, you begin to own them more. you begin to own them more. you begin to own them more. >> So, a lot of you that are learning >> So, a lot of you that are learning >> So, a lot of you that are learning things, listen to the show, you don't things, listen to the show, you don't things, listen to the show, you don't teach it enough to other people. And the teach it enough to other people. And the teach it enough to other people. And the more you begin to teach it, the more you more you begin to teach it, the more you more you begin to teach it, the more you actually begin to live it. People think, actually begin to live it. People think, actually begin to live it. People think, "I can't teach any of this until I'm "I can't teach any of this until I'm "I can't teach any of this until I'm living it." No, you could say, "Look, living it." No, you could say, "Look, living it." No, you could say, "Look, I'm not good at this yet, but this is I'm not good at this yet, but this is I'm not good at this yet, but this is what I'm learning." And the more you what I'm learning." And the more you what I'm learning." And the more you begin to teach something, begin to teach something, begin to teach something, >> I found in my own life. Like, not >> I found in my own life. Like, not >> I found in my own life. Like, not everything I've taught all the time I everything I've taught all the time I everything I've taught all the time I was doing at the time, but I was honest was doing at the time, but I was honest was doing at the time, but I was honest enough to say I wasn't. Right? enough to say I wasn't. Right? enough to say I wasn't. Right? >> This isn't me yet. Let me tell you, this >> This isn't me yet. Let me tell you, this >> This isn't me yet. Let me tell you, this is what so- and so gave me advice on or is what so- and so gave me advice on or is what so- and so gave me advice on or what I know I need to change about me. what I know I need to change about me. what I know I need to change about me. And the more I taught things, the more I And the more I taught things, the more I And the more I taught things, the more I own them. The other thing I've always own them. The other thing I've always own them. The other thing I've always wanted to know about you because and I wanted to know about you because and I wanted to know about you because and I know the answer because it's in the book know the answer because it's in the book know the answer because it's in the book and in interviews you've done but of all and in interviews you've done but of all and in interviews you've done but of all the people you collaborated with one of the people you collaborated with one of the people you collaborated with one of the other things that holds people back the other things that holds people back the other things that holds people back in addition to and by the way I want to in addition to and by the way I want to in addition to and by the way I want to step back. You play such an important step back. You play such an important step back. You play such an important role in culture right now because of role in culture right now because of role in culture right now because of what you just said. There are not enough what you just said. There are not enough what you just said. There are not enough people reaching people in the people reaching people in the people reaching people in the communities you come from or young communities you come from or young communities you come from or young people people people >> right >> right >> right >> with this knowledge and information. The >> with this knowledge and information. The >> with this knowledge and information. The world's different. This isn't 30 years world's different. This isn't 30 years world's different. This isn't 30 years ago where you could just get a Tony ago where you could just get a Tony ago where you could just get a Tony Robbins tape, Robbins tape, Robbins tape, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> There are dudes like me, guys like you, >> There are dudes like me, guys like you, >> There are dudes like me, guys like you, people like John that this information people like John that this information people like John that this information is there, is there, is there, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But it's not what most people from these >> But it's not what most people from these >> But it's not what most people from these communities are consuming on their feed communities are consuming on their feed communities are consuming on their feed every single day, every single day, every single day, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And the fact that you're saying, "Hey, >> And the fact that you're saying, "Hey, >> And the fact that you're saying, "Hey, listen. I come from this. Let me teach listen. I come from this. Let me teach listen. I come from this. Let me teach you this." And this could be you this." And this could be you this." And this could be >> someone from a particular culture, >> someone from a particular culture, >> someone from a particular culture, particular age group, particular part of particular age group, particular part of particular age group, particular part of the world. the world. the world. >> That's why I do this. This isn't >> That's why I do this. This isn't >> That's why I do this. This isn't podcasting is not a big source of podcasting is not a big source of podcasting is not a big source of revenue. like I got business, right? But revenue. like I got business, right? But revenue. like I got business, right? But what it is for me is, and by the way, what it is for me is, and by the way, what it is for me is, and by the way, serious. No, I'm just kidding. serious. No, I'm just kidding. serious. No, I'm just kidding. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] I'm just kidding. We're in the middle of I'm just kidding. We're in the middle of I'm just kidding. We're in the middle of a negotiation right now. That's a whole a negotiation right now. That's a whole a negotiation right now. That's a whole other story. But having said that, um, other story. But having said that, um, other story. But having said that, um, but but I I want to make sure that but but I I want to make sure that but but I I want to make sure that acknowledge you and the role that you're acknowledge you and the role that you're acknowledge you and the role that you're playing. And again, this combination playing. And again, this combination playing. And again, this combination received that. received that. received that. >> It's it's a fact. And the combination of >> It's it's a fact. And the combination of >> It's it's a fact. And the combination of your humility with your confidence is your humility with your confidence is your humility with your confidence is crazy. You've been around lots of highly crazy. You've been around lots of highly crazy. You've been around lots of highly successful people and you are one. And successful people and you are one. And successful people and you are one. And one of the things that I think most one of the things that I think most one of the things that I think most people don't know is the level of work people don't know is the level of work people don't know is the level of work required of effort. required of effort. required of effort. >> Meaning like I don't know I I I I think >> Meaning like I don't know I I I I think >> Meaning like I don't know I I I I think if someone spent the last 5 years with if someone spent the last 5 years with if someone spent the last 5 years with me in business and they I'm not trying me in business and they I'm not trying me in business and they I'm not trying to brag but like if they thought they to brag but like if they thought they to brag but like if they thought they worked hard there there's levels to this worked hard there there's levels to this worked hard there there's levels to this game or like in the speaking game you game or like in the speaking game you game or like in the speaking game you and I talked when the the stuff hit the and I talked when the the stuff hit the and I talked when the the stuff hit the last couple years. There's just levels last couple years. There's just levels last couple years. There's just levels to the work ethic and the grind the to the work ethic and the grind the to the work ethic and the grind the things you got to do. You look at a things you got to do. You look at a things you got to do. You look at a Steph Curry in basketball. Oh, he's such Steph Curry in basketball. Oh, he's such Steph Curry in basketball. Oh, he's such a gifted shooter. Actually, he's not. a gifted shooter. Actually, he's not. a gifted shooter. Actually, he's not. Actually, it's the grind. Actually, Actually, it's the grind. Actually, Actually, it's the grind. Actually, Tiger and Jack Nicholas, the amount of Tiger and Jack Nicholas, the amount of Tiger and Jack Nicholas, the amount of golf balls to hit. Actually, Judge and golf balls to hit. Actually, Judge and golf balls to hit. Actually, Judge and Otani in baseball, you have no idea the Otani in baseball, you have no idea the Otani in baseball, you have no idea the amount of work. And even in coaching, amount of work. And even in coaching, amount of work. And even in coaching, you and I have been around all these you and I have been around all these you and I have been around all these great college football coaches, which I great college football coaches, which I great college football coaches, which I think is one of the hardest jobs in the think is one of the hardest jobs in the think is one of the hardest jobs in the world. There's a level to where Sabin world. There's a level to where Sabin world. There's a level to where Sabin played at Dabau Sweeney, who I know played at Dabau Sweeney, who I know played at Dabau Sweeney, who I know you've been with. Like so talk I think you've been with. Like so talk I think you've been with. Like so talk I think most people are like at about and you most people are like at about and you most people are like at about and you talk about this a lot like maybe they're talk about this a lot like maybe they're talk about this a lot like maybe they're 50 60% of their capacity or effort and 50 60% of their capacity or effort and 50 60% of their capacity or effort and that is not going to get it done no that is not going to get it done no that is not going to get it done no matter how much you sit around and do matter how much you sit around and do matter how much you sit around and do other things that serve you. There's a other things that serve you. There's a other things that serve you. There's a level to this thing and you've been level to this thing and you've been level to this thing and you've been close to it and you are at it. Talk close to it and you are at it. Talk close to it and you are at it. Talk about that for a minute. Look, I I want about that for a minute. Look, I I want about that for a minute. Look, I I want to say this to everybody that's to say this to everybody that's to say this to everybody that's listening. I here's what I think would listening. I here's what I think would listening. I here's what I think would be the easier thing to do. Just lower be the easier thing to do. Just lower be the easier thing to do. Just lower your expectations. [laughter] your expectations. [laughter] your expectations. [laughter] I'm just being real. Like, you know, I'm just being real. Like, you know, I'm just being real. Like, you know, when I was with Ed and he was doing the when I was with Ed and he was doing the when I was with Ed and he was doing the book launch, I'm just being real. I did book launch, I'm just being real. I did book launch, I'm just being real. I did a book launch. It was probably 70% on a book launch. It was probably 70% on a book launch. It was probably 70% on that level in terms of I wasn't just in that level in terms of I wasn't just in that level in terms of I wasn't just in the uh don't get it twisted. I'm not a the uh don't get it twisted. I'm not a the uh don't get it twisted. I'm not a good guy, okay? God makes me a better good guy, okay? God makes me a better good guy, okay? God makes me a better man. I was in the room learning. I man. I was in the room learning. I man. I was in the room learning. I wasn't I I promise y'all I wasn't just wasn't I I promise y'all I wasn't just wasn't I I promise y'all I wasn't just in there talking. I listen to me. I in there talking. I listen to me. I in there talking. I listen to me. I don't even know if Ed knows this. after don't even know if Ed knows this. after don't even know if Ed knows this. after before I did my thing and after I did my before I did my thing and after I did my before I did my thing and after I did my thing. I was all the way in the back thing. I was all the way in the back thing. I was all the way in the back sitting down. I didn't know that. sitting down. I didn't know that. sitting down. I didn't know that. >> I was all the way in the back of the >> I was all the way in the back of the >> I was all the way in the back of the room with a pen and a pad. room with a pen and a pad. room with a pen and a pad. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> Like studying like, "Yo, E, bro, this is >> Like studying like, "Yo, E, bro, this is >> Like studying like, "Yo, E, bro, this is being real. You're not on this level." being real. You're not on this level." being real. You're not on this level." >> Like, you're not one, you're not on this >> Like, you're not one, you're not on this >> Like, you're not one, you're not on this level in terms of like maximizing, level in terms of like maximizing, level in terms of like maximizing, you know, your network. Like, you're not you know, your network. Like, you're not you know, your network. Like, you're not you're not you're not on that the the you're not you're not on that the the you're not you're not on that the the space that we were in. Listen to me. I space that we were in. Listen to me. I space that we were in. Listen to me. I don't know if I told you this, but your don't know if I told you this, but your don't know if I told you this, but your your your guy, he end up helping me um your your guy, he end up helping me um your your guy, he end up helping me um like what what would you call it? Like like what what would you call it? Like like what what would you call it? Like renovate the church and put beautiful renovate the church and put beautiful renovate the church and put beautiful signing on it. He don't even live here. signing on it. He don't even live here. signing on it. He don't even live here. He didn't even live here. He he he He didn't even live here. He he he He didn't even live here. He he he helped he helped me. He made some phone helped he helped me. He made some phone helped he helped me. He made some phone calls. He called up. He's like, "E, if I calls. He called up. He's like, "E, if I calls. He called up. He's like, "E, if I got to leave Charlotte and come down got to leave Charlotte and come down got to leave Charlotte and come down there, I got you. But I I'mma try to there, I got you. But I I'mma try to there, I got you. But I I'mma try to find somebody." This is what I'm talking find somebody." This is what I'm talking find somebody." This is what I'm talking about, y'all. about, y'all. about, y'all. So, I was in the building learning, So, I was in the building learning, So, I was in the building learning, seeing who Ed was connecting with, then seeing who Ed was connecting with, then seeing who Ed was connecting with, then connecting with them afterward. So, connecting with them afterward. So, connecting with them afterward. So, here's my deal. When I was in the room, here's my deal. When I was in the room, here's my deal. When I was in the room, I had to say to myself, e, if you want I had to say to myself, e, if you want I had to say to myself, e, if you want some of this stuff, Ed got, e, you going some of this stuff, Ed got, e, you going some of this stuff, Ed got, e, you going to have to you got to raise your game to have to you got to raise your game to have to you got to raise your game some. So, you got an option. You could some. So, you got an option. You could some. So, you got an option. You could even go, hey, me being in the room with even go, hey, me being in the room with even go, hey, me being in the room with Ed and watching what Ed was doing, th Ed and watching what Ed was doing, th Ed and watching what Ed was doing, th this is strictly for uh recreational this is strictly for uh recreational this is strictly for uh recreational purposes. You feel me? IT'S LIKE, "HEY, purposes. You feel me? IT'S LIKE, "HEY, purposes. You feel me? IT'S LIKE, "HEY, THIS RECREATIONAL PURPOSE, BRO. Go ahead THIS RECREATIONAL PURPOSE, BRO. Go ahead THIS RECREATIONAL PURPOSE, BRO. Go ahead and get out of here." Or, "Hey, Ee, you and get out of here." Or, "Hey, Ee, you and get out of here." Or, "Hey, Ee, you you God showed it to you. He showed it you God showed it to you. He showed it you God showed it to you. He showed it to you. He showed you a level. Are you to you. He showed you a level. Are you to you. He showed you a level. Are you ready?" And so, for me, it was like, ready?" And so, for me, it was like, ready?" And so, for me, it was like, "Absolutely, I'm ready." So, I just want "Absolutely, I'm ready." So, I just want "Absolutely, I'm ready." So, I just want to say this to you guys. Either lower to say this to you guys. Either lower to say this to you guys. Either lower your expectations because you don't have your expectations because you don't have your expectations because you don't have to do everything you see other people to do everything you see other people to do everything you see other people do. You don't have to do it. You could do. You don't have to do it. You could do. You don't have to do it. You could just go, "Man, I It's like going to a just go, "Man, I It's like going to a just go, "Man, I It's like going to a basketball game. You're not trying to basketball game. You're not trying to basketball game. You're not trying to suit up and do what Curry does, but when suit up and do what Curry does, but when suit up and do what Curry does, but when you look at an agent, you kind of you look at an agent, you kind of you look at an agent, you kind of thinking, oh, he human like I'm human. thinking, oh, he human like I'm human. thinking, oh, he human like I'm human. So I can watch yourself, okay? Watch So I can watch yourself, okay? Watch So I can watch yourself, okay? Watch yourself. You might not want to put them yourself. You might not want to put them yourself. You might not want to put them sneaks on. You might not want to get in sneaks on. You might not want to get in sneaks on. You might not want to get in that gym. And what I saw Ed do when I that gym. And what I saw Ed do when I that gym. And what I saw Ed do when I went back, I was like, "Okay, E, number went back, I was like, "Okay, E, number went back, I was like, "Okay, E, number one, you got to get more organized." So one, you got to get more organized." So one, you got to get more organized." So like, you got passion. You got energy. like, you got passion. You got energy. like, you got passion. You got energy. But what you saw in Ed, you saw a But what you saw in Ed, you saw a But what you saw in Ed, you saw a system, you saw a structure, you saw system, you saw a structure, you saw system, you saw a structure, you saw people over here and people over here people over here and people over here people over here and people over here and people doing it and people in the and people doing it and people in the and people doing it and people in the back. And when you get in, people in the back. And when you get in, people in the back. And when you get in, people in the parking. So, it's like e when you get to parking. So, it's like e when you get to parking. So, it's like e when you get to the crib, from a speaking standpoint, the crib, from a speaking standpoint, the crib, from a speaking standpoint, you you definitely giving 1,00%. Right? you you definitely giving 1,00%. Right? you you definitely giving 1,00%. Right? But from a structural standpoint, you're But from a structural standpoint, you're But from a structural standpoint, you're not giving 10,000%. Then I look at the not giving 10,000%. Then I look at the not giving 10,000%. Then I look at the packages in the D, and I was like, e, packages in the D, and I was like, e, packages in the D, and I was like, e, you don't got So, y'all might have saw, you don't got So, y'all might have saw, you don't got So, y'all might have saw, if you watched it, it was a group in if you watched it, it was a group in if you watched it, it was a group in here, then it was a group out there, and here, then it was a group out there, and here, then it was a group out there, and then the level of men that was on stage then the level of men that was on stage then the level of men that was on stage who are also dominant in their who are also dominant in their who are also dominant in their particular area. Bro, I was with people particular area. Bro, I was with people particular area. Bro, I was with people who I've only seen in a podcast. I only who I've only seen in a podcast. I only who I've only seen in a podcast. I only see these DUDES ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I ain't see these DUDES ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I ain't see these DUDES ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I ain't never been in a room with them before. I never been in a room with them before. I never been in a room with them before. I was in a room with them. was in a room with them. was in a room with them. >> And so, yes, you know, I had to come >> And so, yes, you know, I had to come >> And so, yes, you know, I had to come home, not necessarily get up earlier, home, not necessarily get up earlier, home, not necessarily get up earlier, not necessarily grind physically harder, not necessarily grind physically harder, not necessarily grind physically harder, but I had to take my mental game to but I had to take my mental game to but I had to take my mental game to another level. another level. another level. >> I had to take my systems game to another >> I had to take my systems game to another >> I had to take my systems game to another level. I had to, this is a grind that level. I had to, this is a grind that level. I had to, this is a grind that you probably don't know. I had to remove you probably don't know. I had to remove you probably don't know. I had to remove people, which hurts, to bring in a people, which hurts, to bring in a people, which hurts, to bring in a different group of people to take me different group of people to take me different group of people to take me where I wanted to go because I realized where I wanted to go because I realized where I wanted to go because I realized a group that was with me, phenomenal a group that was with me, phenomenal a group that was with me, phenomenal group of humans, phenomenal group of group of humans, phenomenal group of group of humans, phenomenal group of people, they probably would get to people, they probably would get to people, they probably would get to heaven before I get there. But in order heaven before I get there. But in order heaven before I get there. But in order to take me from number four to number to take me from number four to number to take me from number four to number one, they weren't necessarily the people one, they weren't necessarily the people one, they weren't necessarily the people that could do that. So to Ed's point, I that could do that. So to Ed's point, I that could do that. So to Ed's point, I personally went home and and did a um an personally went home and and did a um an personally went home and and did a um an evaluation on ET. I personally studied evaluation on ET. I personally studied evaluation on ET. I personally studied ET and said, "Yeah, you got it going ET and said, "Yeah, you got it going ET and said, "Yeah, you got it going over here." But this seed is an apple over here." But this seed is an apple over here." But this seed is an apple seed, an orange seed. This is not a seed, an orange seed. This is not a seed, an orange seed. This is not a watermelon seed. And these seeds that watermelon seed. And these seeds that watermelon seed. And these seeds that you're planting will never get you you're planting will never get you you're planting will never get you watermelon. So, so, yep, you got some watermelon. So, so, yep, you got some watermelon. So, so, yep, you got some dynamic. Are you posting every day? You dynamic. Are you posting every day? You dynamic. Are you posting every day? You putting out dynamic stuff, but that will putting out dynamic stuff, but that will putting out dynamic stuff, but that will not get what you saw Ed do in terms of not get what you saw Ed do in terms of not get what you saw Ed do in terms of systems. systems. systems. >> And so, you got to come home and your >> And so, you got to come home and your >> And so, you got to come home and your new grind is system. I don't know what new grind is system. I don't know what new grind is system. I don't know what your grind is, but I'm telling you, I your grind is, but I'm telling you, I your grind is, but I'm telling you, I had to start reading books. I had to go had to start reading books. I had to go had to start reading books. I had to go to conferences. I had to shift what I to conferences. I had to shift what I to conferences. I had to shift what I was watching online. I had to shift who was watching online. I had to shift who was watching online. I had to shift who I was following. Great humans, great I was following. Great humans, great I was following. Great humans, great people. They were only going to help me people. They were only going to help me people. They were only going to help me sustain this energy. They weren't going sustain this energy. They weren't going sustain this energy. They weren't going to help me with the structure. Here's to help me with the structure. Here's to help me with the structure. Here's what I realized. E, nobody's better than what I realized. E, nobody's better than what I realized. E, nobody's better than you, but there are some people who's got you, but there are some people who's got you, but there are some people who's got better systems than you. better systems than you. better systems than you. >> And so, if you want to see growth, you >> And so, if you want to see growth, you >> And so, if you want to see growth, you got to start grinding on the systems got to start grinding on the systems got to start grinding on the systems level. So don't I don't want you to get level. So don't I don't want you to get level. So don't I don't want you to get what Ed said and you miss it. You like, what Ed said and you miss it. You like, what Ed said and you miss it. You like, "Oh, I got to get up earlier. I got to "Oh, I got to get up earlier. I got to "Oh, I got to get up earlier. I got to grind." Maybe you don't have to get up grind." Maybe you don't have to get up grind." Maybe you don't have to get up earlier to accomplish what you've earlier to accomplish what you've earlier to accomplish what you've already accomplished. But to get this already accomplished. But to get this already accomplished. But to get this done, you do have to make some done, you do have to make some done, you do have to make some adjustments. And that's what the grind adjustments. And that's what the grind adjustments. And that's what the grind look like and that's what the hustle look like and that's what the hustle look like and that's what the hustle look like. And can I say this, Ed? I'm look like. And can I say this, Ed? I'm look like. And can I say this, Ed? I'm Man, I don't even know if I ever said Man, I don't even know if I ever said Man, I don't even know if I ever said this before, but sometimes, and I don't this before, but sometimes, and I don't this before, but sometimes, and I don't know if you've experienced this, know if you've experienced this, know if you've experienced this, sometimes, bro, you putting up 40 with sometimes, bro, you putting up 40 with sometimes, bro, you putting up 40 with 30 rebounds and you like whatever. And 30 rebounds and you like whatever. And 30 rebounds and you like whatever. And then you go somewhere and God shows you, then you go somewhere and God shows you, then you go somewhere and God shows you, and I was talking to my son the other and I was talking to my son the other and I was talking to my son the other day and he he kind of was hurt cuz he day and he he kind of was hurt cuz he day and he he kind of was hurt cuz he was like, "Dad, you know, you you you was like, "Dad, you know, you you you was like, "Dad, you know, you you you acting like I'm" And I said, "Hold up. acting like I'm" And I said, "Hold up. acting like I'm" And I said, "Hold up. I'm sorry. You putting up 30, you I'm sorry. You putting up 30, you I'm sorry. You putting up 30, you putting up 10, but the 30 points and the putting up 10, but the 30 points and the putting up 10, but the 30 points and the 10 rebounds have nothing to do with the 10 rebounds have nothing to do with the 10 rebounds have nothing to do with the assist. You don't get credit for assists assist. You don't get credit for assists assist. You don't get credit for assists because you scored and you got rebounds. because you scored and you got rebounds. because you scored and you got rebounds. They they don't they don't take your They they don't they don't take your They they don't they don't take your points and go, "Well, we going to put points and go, "Well, we going to put points and go, "Well, we going to put those over and rebound." They don't take those over and rebound." They don't take those over and rebound." They don't take your rebounds and go, "We going to put your rebounds and go, "We going to put your rebounds and go, "We going to put those with your assist." And when I left those with your assist." And when I left those with your assist." And when I left you, you know, I I there was a part of you, you know, I I there was a part of you, you know, I I there was a part of me that was like, "God, you want me to me that was like, "God, you want me to me that was like, "God, you want me to do more?" do more?" do more?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You want me to do more? Am I not >> You want me to do more? Am I not >> You want me to do more? Am I not grinding enough? He was like, grinding enough? He was like, grinding enough? He was like, absolutely. And every seed you planted absolutely. And every seed you planted absolutely. And every seed you planted is going to grow. But you just looked at is going to grow. But you just looked at is going to grow. But you just looked at what Ed was doing and you saw there was what Ed was doing and you saw there was what Ed was doing and you saw there was a gap. So you have a choice to make a gap. So you have a choice to make a gap. So you have a choice to make here. You got rebounds, you got points, here. You got rebounds, you got points, here. You got rebounds, you got points, but the assist, son, you you had zero. but the assist, son, you you had zero. but the assist, son, you you had zero. So what do you want to do? And there was So what do you want to do? And there was So what do you want to do? And there was a there was a moment where I had to go, a there was a moment where I had to go, a there was a moment where I had to go, >> you're not overwhelmed. >> you're not overwhelmed. >> you're not overwhelmed. You're just rising to the level that God You're just rising to the level that God You're just rising to the level that God is asking you to rise to. is asking you to rise to. is asking you to rise to. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> There there's no anxiety. The Bible >> There there's no anxiety. The Bible >> There there's no anxiety. The Bible said, "Be anxious for nothing, but in said, "Be anxious for nothing, but in said, "Be anxious for nothing, but in all things through prayer and all things through prayer and all things through prayer and supplication, make your request known to supplication, make your request known to supplication, make your request known to God." But there was a 30 secondond boy God." But there was a 30 secondond boy God." But there was a 30 secondond boy where was like, "Man, God, how am I where was like, "Man, God, how am I where was like, "Man, God, how am I going to be blessed?" When I he said, going to be blessed?" When I he said, going to be blessed?" When I he said, "How one that's your boy, so you can "How one that's your boy, so you can "How one that's your boy, so you can just call." Then I had a Rory in the just call." Then I had a Rory in the just call." Then I had a Rory in the back interviewing me. God like, "Yo, you back interviewing me. God like, "Yo, you back interviewing me. God like, "Yo, you don't have to do you could just" and don't have to do you could just" and don't have to do you could just" and then just and I did just that. my then just and I did just that. my then just and I did just that. my relationship with Roy, you know, went relationship with Roy, you know, went relationship with Roy, you know, went from a person that, you know, respects from a person that, you know, respects from a person that, you know, respects him to sitting at his feet to listen to him to sitting at his feet to listen to him to sitting at his feet to listen to the podcast to studying you guys. And I the podcast to studying you guys. And I the podcast to studying you guys. And I can honestly say after that event can honestly say after that event can honestly say after that event systemwise, you know, I've gone to systemwise, you know, I've gone to systemwise, you know, I've gone to another level. So to me, that's what it another level. So to me, that's what it another level. So to me, that's what it looks like when your expectations, your looks like when your expectations, your looks like when your expectations, your dreams, your goals, and your grind dreams, your goals, and your grind dreams, your goals, and your grind match. And if y'all not ready to work, match. And if y'all not ready to work, match. And if y'all not ready to work, it doesn't make you a bad human. Just it doesn't make you a bad human. Just it doesn't make you a bad human. Just lower your expectations. lower your expectations. lower your expectations. >> Gosh, that's so so good. And that idea >> Gosh, that's so so good. And that idea >> Gosh, that's so so good. And that idea of the grind. I want to say one thing to of the grind. I want to say one thing to of the grind. I want to say one thing to everybody. When he's talking about everybody. When he's talking about everybody. When he's talking about rebounds and points, the application of rebounds and points, the application of rebounds and points, the application of that for you is this. that for you is this. that for you is this. >> Is that if you're average, you keep >> Is that if you're average, you keep >> Is that if you're average, you keep giving yourself credit for the things giving yourself credit for the things giving yourself credit for the things you're already doing. But if you want to you're already doing. But if you want to you're already doing. But if you want to be extraordinary, you got to go, what's be extraordinary, you got to go, what's be extraordinary, you got to go, what's the thing like the power of one more in the thing like the power of one more in the thing like the power of one more in the book, I talk about you're one the book, I talk about you're one the book, I talk about you're one decision away. I think all of you decision away. I think all of you decision away. I think all of you listening to this right now, if I could listening to this right now, if I could listening to this right now, if I could be honest with you, you already know be honest with you, you already know be honest with you, you already know what it is. You know the thing you're what it is. You know the thing you're what it is. You know the thing you're not doing, you need to be doing that not doing, you need to be doing that not doing, you need to be doing that would change your life and your would change your life and your would change your life and your business. You already know what it is. business. You already know what it is. business. You already know what it is. is having the guts, the courage, the is having the guts, the courage, the is having the guts, the courage, the faith to call the shot. Like in ET's faith to call the shot. Like in ET's faith to call the shot. Like in ET's case, I'm going to go back. I don't need case, I'm going to go back. I don't need case, I'm going to go back. I don't need to work harder. I got to get more to work harder. I got to get more to work harder. I got to get more systematic. Maybe I could even work less systematic. Maybe I could even work less systematic. Maybe I could even work less hard if I put these systems in place for hard if I put these systems in place for hard if I put these systems in place for you. It might be something you are doing you. It might be something you are doing you. It might be something you are doing or that you need to stop doing to get or that you need to stop doing to get or that you need to stop doing to get your life to the next level. your life to the next level. your life to the next level. >> Can I wrap up with one one thought? >> Can I wrap up with one one thought? >> Can I wrap up with one one thought? >> 100%. Yes. >> 100%. Yes. >> 100%. Yes. >> Okay. So, I I I don't know if you tuned >> Okay. So, I I I don't know if you tuned >> Okay. So, I I I don't know if you tuned out after day 100. Um do you do you know out after day 100. Um do you do you know out after day 100. Um do you do you know what we did the next day? what we did the next day? what we did the next day? >> No, I don't. >> No, I don't. >> No, I don't. Okay. So, um, we did 101. Okay. So, um, we did 101. Okay. So, um, we did 101. >> Did you really? >> Did you really? >> Did you really? >> And, um, >> And, um, >> And, um, >> did you really? >> did you really? >> did you really? >> Yeah. So, we went live every day during >> Yeah. So, we went live every day during >> Yeah. So, we went live every day during the swim and and and I I think this is the swim and and and I I think this is the swim and and and I I think this is important because of who you are and you important because of who you are and you important because of who you are and you know your tagline of uh, max out know your tagline of uh, max out know your tagline of uh, max out >> and and we turned on the live the >> and and we turned on the live the >> and and we turned on the live the following day when I would have normally following day when I would have normally following day when I would have normally been swimming every single day. And it been swimming every single day. And it been swimming every single day. And it was and it was just me in the pool by was and it was just me in the pool by was and it was just me in the pool by myself um doing one more. And I got myself um doing one more. And I got myself um doing one more. And I got asked the question a lot, why did you do asked the question a lot, why did you do asked the question a lot, why did you do one more? And I had a lot of people one more? And I had a lot of people one more? And I had a lot of people understand. And then I had a lot of understand. And then I had a lot of understand. And then I had a lot of people just they were confused. And people just they were confused. And people just they were confused. And I I I hate the because my the way I feed I I I hate the because my the way I feed I I I hate the because my the way I feed my family is I I get on stage and we my family is I I get on stage and we my family is I I get on stage and we tell our story. We we motivate and we do tell our story. We we motivate and we do tell our story. We we motivate and we do coaching and and whatnot. Um, and I and coaching and and whatnot. Um, and I and coaching and and whatnot. Um, and I and I love um talking from stage and I love um talking from stage and I love um talking from stage and impacting people. impacting people. impacting people. >> Um, and >> Um, and >> Um, and I I I don't appreciate the speakers that I I I don't appreciate the speakers that I I I don't appreciate the speakers that are out there telling uh trying to teach are out there telling uh trying to teach are out there telling uh trying to teach a lesson when they haven't done it. They a lesson when they haven't done it. They a lesson when they haven't done it. They haven't been on the battlefield in the haven't been on the battlefield in the haven't been on the battlefield in the battle. And I felt like I would be a battle. And I felt like I would be a battle. And I felt like I would be a hypocrite if I told people that you can hypocrite if I told people that you can hypocrite if I told people that you can get up and you can do one more. And it get up and you can do one more. And it get up and you can do one more. And it the campaign day 100 was on a Tuesday the campaign day 100 was on a Tuesday the campaign day 100 was on a Tuesday and Sunday night I said I just got the and Sunday night I said I just got the and Sunday night I said I just got the most intense impression. most intense impression. most intense impression. James, you need to do one more. And and James, you need to do one more. And and James, you need to do one more. And and I was like, are you freaking kidding me? I was like, are you freaking kidding me? I was like, are you freaking kidding me? Like I am broken. Like I am mentally Like I am broken. Like I am mentally Like I am broken. Like I am mentally exhausted. I've been showing up for a exhausted. I've been showing up for a exhausted. I've been showing up for a quarter of a year. Why would I do one quarter of a year. Why would I do one quarter of a year. Why would I do one more? And and and I got the impression, more? And and and I got the impression, more? And and and I got the impression, it's not for you. and and I felt like it's not for you. and and I felt like it's not for you. and and I felt like our team needed to show up and do one our team needed to show up and do one our team needed to show up and do one more because on your journey when you're more because on your journey when you're more because on your journey when you're broken and when you are at your limit I broken and when you are at your limit I broken and when you are at your limit I promise you you can get up and you can promise you you can get up and you can promise you you can get up and you can do one more and that one more might be do one more and that one more might be do one more and that one more might be by yourself [snorts] and I don't know by yourself [snorts] and I don't know by yourself [snorts] and I don't know how many times you're going to have to how many times you're going to have to how many times you're going to have to get up and do one more by yourself but I get up and do one more by yourself but I get up and do one more by yourself but I promise you you can get up one more and promise you you can get up one more and promise you you can get up one more and I didn't feel like I I could bring I didn't feel like I I could bring I didn't feel like I I could bring integrity to our story if I didn't go integrity to our story if I didn't go integrity to our story if I didn't go out and as a team we did one more and so out and as a team we did one more and so out and as a team we did one more and so we did we did 101 because I I want to we did we did 101 because I I want to we did we did 101 because I I want to lead from the front and I want to show lead from the front and I want to show lead from the front and I want to show people when you are broken and when you people when you are broken and when you people when you are broken and when you have reached your limit have reached your limit have reached your limit you can do one more. you can do one more. you can do one more. >> James >> James >> James the book I'm writing right now is called the book I'm writing right now is called the book I'm writing right now is called one more. You just stole the title of my one more. You just stole the title of my one more. You just stole the title of my next book, Ed. We're in a fight. next book, Ed. We're in a fight. next book, Ed. We're in a fight. >> I'm gonna be out before you. It's uh and >> I'm gonna be out before you. It's uh and >> I'm gonna be out before you. It's uh and I'm adding your story to the book I'm adding your story to the book I'm adding your story to the book because I have the rights to this because I have the rights to this because I have the rights to this podcast. [laughter] But I'm not exaggerating. I'm almost But I'm not exaggerating. I'm almost done. And I told you that you went on done. And I told you that you went on done. And I told you that you went on this journey. You did this. I know you this journey. You did this. I know you this journey. You did this. I know you did it for my audience, but you just did did it for my audience, but you just did did it for my audience, but you just did it for me. And so, I'm sure the books it for me. And so, I'm sure the books it for me. And so, I'm sure the books will be very different in content, but will be very different in content, but will be very different in content, but yeah, the p my book is The Power of One yeah, the p my book is The Power of One yeah, the p my book is The Power of One More, and it'll be out in the fall. And More, and it'll be out in the fall. And More, and it'll be out in the fall. And So excited for that book, Ed. So excited for that book, Ed. So excited for that book, Ed. >> I'm just blown away that you just said >> I'm just blown away that you just said >> I'm just blown away that you just said that. That may be the craziest thing that. That may be the craziest thing that. That may be the craziest thing that's ever been done on the show and it that's ever been done on the show and it that's ever been done on the show and it was at the end. I hope everyone's still was at the end. I hope everyone's still was at the end. I hope everyone's still listening cuz that's a that's a wow. listening cuz that's a that's a wow. listening cuz that's a that's a wow. Thank God you added that too to an Thank God you added that too to an Thank God you added that too to an unbelievable conversation. So here's unbelievable conversation. So here's unbelievable conversation. So here's something you're going to have to all something you're going to have to all something you're going to have to all accept and and and if you already have accept and and and if you already have accept and and and if you already have at an even deeper level, if you're going at an even deeper level, if you're going at an even deeper level, if you're going to win, you got to change your to win, you got to change your to win, you got to change your relationship with pain. You got to do relationship with pain. You got to do relationship with pain. You got to do hard things and build the habit of doing hard things and build the habit of doing hard things and build the habit of doing hard things. And what you wouldn't know hard things. And what you wouldn't know hard things. And what you wouldn't know about Dean, but I'm going to make him about Dean, but I'm going to make him about Dean, but I'm going to make him speak to it right now. This dude leans, speak to it right now. This dude leans, speak to it right now. This dude leans, his tendency is to drive through the his tendency is to drive through the his tendency is to drive through the smoke. I tell this story about we used smoke. I tell this story about we used smoke. I tell this story about we used to sponsor Carl Edwards, the NASCAR to sponsor Carl Edwards, the NASCAR to sponsor Carl Edwards, the NASCAR driver. I said, "What's the scariest driver. I said, "What's the scariest driver. I said, "What's the scariest thing about driving NASCAR?" He goes, thing about driving NASCAR?" He goes, thing about driving NASCAR?" He goes, "Easy question to answer. when there's "Easy question to answer. when there's "Easy question to answer. when there's an accident in front of you and there's an accident in front of you and there's an accident in front of you and there's all this smoke and you're going to drive all this smoke and you're going to drive all this smoke and you're going to drive 150 miles an hour through that smoke and 150 miles an hour through that smoke and 150 miles an hour through that smoke and you don't know what's on the other side, you don't know what's on the other side, you don't know what's on the other side, you could be hitting something head-on you could be hitting something head-on you could be hitting something head-on and you're done. and you're done. and you're done. >> And he said, "I've learned to drive >> And he said, "I've learned to drive >> And he said, "I've learned to drive through the smoke." And the people that through the smoke." And the people that through the smoke." And the people that I know that are ultra successful, they I know that are ultra successful, they I know that are ultra successful, they have a different relationship with fear have a different relationship with fear have a different relationship with fear and pain, and they drive through the and pain, and they drive through the and pain, and they drive through the smoke. They do hard things. They build smoke. They do hard things. They build smoke. They do hard things. They build the muscle fibers mentally of doing hard the muscle fibers mentally of doing hard the muscle fibers mentally of doing hard things that other people avoid doing or things that other people avoid doing or things that other people avoid doing or try to find a way around a smarter, try to find a way around a smarter, try to find a way around a smarter, easier way. And that is not you. You've easier way. And that is not you. You've easier way. And that is not you. You've gotten where you are. And I don't want gotten where you are. And I don't want gotten where you are. And I don't want you to be humble about this because this you to be humble about this because this you to be humble about this because this dude does difficult things. He does dude does difficult things. He does dude does difficult things. He does difficult things quite frankly like most difficult things quite frankly like most difficult things quite frankly like most people do easy things. He just runs people do easy things. He just runs people do easy things. He just runs towards the smoke. Tell him about that towards the smoke. Tell him about that towards the smoke. Tell him about that about you. Don't be humble. about you. Don't be humble. about you. Don't be humble. >> Yeah. I appreciate the the kind words. >> Yeah. I appreciate the the kind words. >> Yeah. I appreciate the the kind words. Uh I would have to say it's true because Uh I would have to say it's true because Uh I would have to say it's true because what I realized at a young age is my what I realized at a young age is my what I realized at a young age is my father and not going back to childhood, father and not going back to childhood, father and not going back to childhood, but my father stressed about all the but my father stressed about all the but my father stressed about all the little things and and you know, you little things and and you know, you little things and and you know, you don't realize this stuff when you're in don't realize this stuff when you're in don't realize this stuff when you're in it, Ed. You realize when you look back it, Ed. You realize when you look back it, Ed. You realize when you look back after 20, 30 years, but my dad freaked after 20, 30 years, but my dad freaked after 20, 30 years, but my dad freaked out and stressed about $100 ideas, out and stressed about $100 ideas, out and stressed about $100 ideas, thousand ideas. And I watched the pain thousand ideas. And I watched the pain thousand ideas. And I watched the pain this guy went through. And I remember at this guy went through. And I remember at this guy went through. And I remember at a young age just thinking to myself, if a young age just thinking to myself, if a young age just thinking to myself, if I solve like my dad worries so much I solve like my dad worries so much I solve like my dad worries so much about the little things, what if I put about the little things, what if I put about the little things, what if I put that much energy in just the bigger that much energy in just the bigger that much energy in just the bigger things? And and what happens when you're things? And and what happens when you're things? And and what happens when you're young and you start that way of young and you start that way of young and you start that way of thinking? It's honestly a lot easier thinking? It's honestly a lot easier thinking? It's honestly a lot easier because I was 17, 18, young, naive, dumb because I was 17, 18, young, naive, dumb because I was 17, 18, young, naive, dumb in some cases, right? So I just ran in some cases, right? So I just ran in some cases, right? So I just ran towards the fire. Say if my dad's going towards the fire. Say if my dad's going towards the fire. Say if my dad's going to stress so much about a $1,000 deal, to stress so much about a $1,000 deal, to stress so much about a $1,000 deal, what if I did it on $5,000, $10,000 what if I did it on $5,000, $10,000 what if I did it on $5,000, $10,000 deals? And the proof is in the pudding. deals? And the proof is in the pudding. deals? And the proof is in the pudding. And you know this, Ed, some of your And you know this, Ed, some of your And you know this, Ed, some of your biggest deals that you probably have biggest deals that you probably have biggest deals that you probably have done in your life had less stress than done in your life had less stress than done in your life had less stress than one of the smaller deals you've done. one of the smaller deals you've done. one of the smaller deals you've done. >> And what I've done is just programmed >> And what I've done is just programmed >> And what I've done is just programmed myself to say, "How could I go after myself to say, "How could I go after myself to say, "How could I go after something bigger?" You know, I just be something bigger?" You know, I just be something bigger?" You know, I just be honest. I I read um Green Lights by MCA, honest. I I read um Green Lights by MCA, honest. I I read um Green Lights by MCA, right? right? right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I get done with that book just like I >> I get done with that book just like I >> I get done with that book just like I felt with your book. I got done. I'm felt with your book. I got done. I'm felt with your book. I got done. I'm like, damn, this is good. I want more. like, damn, this is good. I want more. like, damn, this is good. I want more. Like the world needs more MCA. So, I had Like the world needs more MCA. So, I had Like the world needs more MCA. So, I had a mutual friend. I fin I got a voice a mutual friend. I fin I got a voice a mutual friend. I fin I got a voice memo over to McConna and I told my team memo over to McConna and I told my team memo over to McConna and I told my team we're we're going to help this dude we're we're going to help this dude we're we're going to help this dude build a course through what we do, build a course through what we do, build a course through what we do, right? We're going to help build a right? We're going to help build a right? We're going to help build a course. We're going to do a live event course. We're going to do a live event course. We're going to do a live event and uh we're going to help get this and uh we're going to help get this and uh we're going to help get this course in the hands of tens of thousands course in the hands of tens of thousands course in the hands of tens of thousands of people. My team's like, "How the heck of people. My team's like, "How the heck of people. My team's like, "How the heck could we get that done?" Right? When I could we get that done?" Right? When I could we get that done?" Right? When I got on the phone with his attorney, got on the phone with his attorney, got on the phone with his attorney, working with celebrities is different. working with celebrities is different. working with celebrities is different. You have an agent, you have attorney, You have an agent, you have attorney, You have an agent, you have attorney, you have somebody and and rightfully so. you have somebody and and rightfully so. you have somebody and and rightfully so. This crazy world, you do one thing off, This crazy world, you do one thing off, This crazy world, you do one thing off, it could hurt your brand, right? We get it could hurt your brand, right? We get it could hurt your brand, right? We get done with a meeting. My team gets off done with a meeting. My team gets off done with a meeting. My team gets off and goes, "No way this is happening. How and goes, "No way this is happening. How and goes, "No way this is happening. How do you make that person happy, that do you make that person happy, that do you make that person happy, that person happy, that person h McConnA is person happy, that person h McConnA is person happy, that person h McConnA is the sweetest man on the planet. You've the sweetest man on the planet. You've the sweetest man on the planet. You've you've interviewed him. He's he's you've interviewed him. He's he's you've interviewed him. He's he's sweetest guy." But my team's like, "No sweetest guy." But my team's like, "No sweetest guy." But my team's like, "No way that's happening." So, we get done way that's happening." So, we get done way that's happening." So, we get done with this meeting and I go in and sit with this meeting and I go in and sit with this meeting and I go in and sit with my team like, "What do you guys with my team like, "What do you guys with my team like, "What do you guys think?" Like, "No way in hell. It's think?" Like, "No way in hell. It's think?" Like, "No way in hell. It's never going to happen. How do you never going to happen. How do you never going to happen. How do you satisfy so many people?" And I'm like, satisfy so many people?" And I'm like, satisfy so many people?" And I'm like, "Listen, you guys, that means no one "Listen, you guys, that means no one "Listen, you guys, that means no one else can do it besides us. Let's let's else can do it besides us. Let's let's else can do it besides us. Let's let's just do whatever it takes. And if we go just do whatever it takes. And if we go just do whatever it takes. And if we go all the way and it doesn't happen, then all the way and it doesn't happen, then all the way and it doesn't happen, then I'm going to love the lessons we learned I'm going to love the lessons we learned I'm going to love the lessons we learned along this journey. And I I know it along this journey. And I I know it along this journey. And I I know it takes years to get up to that, you know, takes years to get up to that, you know, takes years to get up to that, you know, to to to do an event like that. But it to to to do an event like that. But it to to to do an event like that. But it was one of the toughest events on the was one of the toughest events on the was one of the toughest events on the planet and the most rewarding in my planet and the most rewarding in my planet and the most rewarding in my life. And tough in the meaning of just life. And tough in the meaning of just life. And tough in the meaning of just every ad that we did, every mo every every ad that we did, every mo every every ad that we did, every mo every every visual that we did, how to be every visual that we did, how to be every visual that we did, how to be approved by five different people, how approved by five different people, how approved by five different people, how to work. And I would not change one bit to work. And I would not change one bit to work. And I would not change one bit of it. Ed, I I created new friends. of it. Ed, I I created new friends. of it. Ed, I I created new friends. McConna became a friend. And we did the McConna became a friend. And we did the McConna became a friend. And we did the largest event in the history of the We largest event in the history of the We largest event in the history of the We had two and a half million people on day had two and a half million people on day had two and a half million people on day one live. Like insane what we did. And one live. Like insane what we did. And one live. Like insane what we did. And we put his course in the hands of tens we put his course in the hands of tens we put his course in the hands of tens of thousands of people. They all loved of thousands of people. They all loved of thousands of people. They all loved it. They thank him to this day. They it. They thank him to this day. They it. They thank him to this day. They people find him on the street and thank people find him on the street and thank people find him on the street and thank him. In fact, the the last thing I'll him. In fact, the the last thing I'll him. In fact, the the last thing I'll say, I said to McConna, "What do you say, I said to McConna, "What do you say, I said to McConna, "What do you think of the whole experience?" And he think of the whole experience?" And he think of the whole experience?" And he said, "Well, I thought you were crazy at said, "Well, I thought you were crazy at said, "Well, I thought you were crazy at first. I thought I'd never do something first. I thought I'd never do something first. I thought I'd never do something like this." I said, "Well, what do you like this." I said, "Well, what do you like this." I said, "Well, what do you think now?" He said, "Uh, think now?" He said, "Uh, think now?" He said, "Uh, I realize it's the greatest experience I realize it's the greatest experience I realize it's the greatest experience of my life because my whole life I of my life because my whole life I of my life because my whole life I play," he said, "my whole life I've play," he said, "my whole life I've play," he said, "my whole life I've played a character that was written by played a character that was written by played a character that was written by somebody else, directed by somebody somebody else, directed by somebody somebody else, directed by somebody else, edited by somebody else." else, edited by somebody else." else, edited by somebody else." >> He said, "I got to play me." So when >> He said, "I got to play me." So when >> He said, "I got to play me." So when people come up, they don't go, "I love people come up, they don't go, "I love people come up, they don't go, "I love the character." They say, "Thank you." the character." They say, "Thank you." the character." They say, "Thank you." >> That goes to my point from earlier, >> That goes to my point from earlier, >> That goes to my point from earlier, brother, which is that you get to play brother, which is that you get to play brother, which is that you get to play you. See, you're most fulfilled when you. See, you're most fulfilled when you. See, you're most fulfilled when you're expressing the real you. And even you're expressing the real you. And even you're expressing the real you. And even someone like Matthew McConna who's had someone like Matthew McConna who's had someone like Matthew McConna who's had all these external accolades says it's all these external accolades says it's all these external accolades says it's the best experience of his life because the best experience of his life because the best experience of his life because he got to express him and that's when he got to express him and that's when he got to express him and that's when we're fulfilled. I really believe we're fulfilled. I really believe we're fulfilled. I really believe probably the most un underpursued probably the most un underpursued probably the most un underpursued underspoken about part of fulfillment in underspoken about part of fulfillment in underspoken about part of fulfillment in life right now in the personal life right now in the personal life right now in the personal development industry is the level of development industry is the level of development industry is the level of fulfillment one feels when they're the fulfillment one feels when they're the fulfillment one feels when they're the fullest expression or the truest fullest expression or the truest fullest expression or the truest expression of themselves and serving expression of themselves and serving expression of themselves and serving people. And if you're looking for a people. And if you're looking for a people. And if you're looking for a pathway to have a little bit more juice pathway to have a little bit more juice pathway to have a little bit more juice in your life, peace, happiness, in your life, peace, happiness, in your life, peace, happiness, fulfillment, I believe that's the place fulfillment, I believe that's the place fulfillment, I believe that's the place to look. Am I expressing myself, my to look. Am I expressing myself, my to look. Am I expressing myself, my love, my gift, my knowledge, my love, my gift, my knowledge, my love, my gift, my knowledge, my information, information, information, my feelings to the people around me, to my feelings to the people around me, to my feelings to the people around me, to the broader world in a way that fulfills the broader world in a way that fulfills the broader world in a way that fulfills me. And if you're not, if you're holding me. And if you're not, if you're holding me. And if you're not, if you're holding these things in, which is what most these things in, which is what most these things in, which is what most people do, they hold their feelings, people do, they hold their feelings, people do, they hold their feelings, they hold their thoughts, they hold what they hold their thoughts, they hold what they hold their thoughts, they hold what they believe in, they hold their they believe in, they hold their they believe in, they hold their opinions, they hold their knowledge, I opinions, they hold their knowledge, I opinions, they hold their knowledge, I believe you're dying. I believe that's believe you're dying. I believe that's believe you're dying. I believe that's the beginning of a death of our spirit. the beginning of a death of our spirit. the beginning of a death of our spirit. And I believe, you know, not to be very, And I believe, you know, not to be very, And I believe, you know, not to be very, you know, faith-based here, but I really you know, faith-based here, but I really you know, faith-based here, but I really believe this. God did not make you to believe this. God did not make you to believe this. God did not make you to for you to repress your greatness, for for you to repress your greatness, for for you to repress your greatness, for you to suppress your expression of you. you to suppress your expression of you. you to suppress your expression of you. You're not you're not doing what I You're not you're not doing what I You're not you're not doing what I believe is God's will in your life when believe is God's will in your life when believe is God's will in your life when you suppress your stance, when you you suppress your stance, when you you suppress your stance, when you suppress your knowledge, when you cheat suppress your knowledge, when you cheat suppress your knowledge, when you cheat another human being out of the gift of another human being out of the gift of another human being out of the gift of you helping them. And I always say this, you helping them. And I always say this, you helping them. And I always say this, my life changed because my dad got my life changed because my dad got my life changed because my dad got sober. But my dad got sober because sober. But my dad got sober because sober. But my dad got sober because somebody helped him get sober. Another somebody helped him get sober. Another somebody helped him get sober. Another human being said, "I can help you." And human being said, "I can help you." And human being said, "I can help you." And by the way, what qualified them wasn't by the way, what qualified them wasn't by the way, what qualified them wasn't they were there this magnificent perfect they were there this magnificent perfect they were there this magnificent perfect person. What qualified them is they at person. What qualified them is they at person. What qualified them is they at one time were also an alcoholic and a one time were also an alcoholic and a one time were also an alcoholic and a drug addict and that's what was drug addict and that's what was drug addict and that's what was qualifying them. So ironically the great qualifying them. So ironically the great qualifying them. So ironically the great pain they went through in their life was pain they went through in their life was pain they went through in their life was the qualifier to help other people. the qualifier to help other people. the qualifier to help other people. Perhaps that what you should be looking Perhaps that what you should be looking Perhaps that what you should be looking at right now my friend. Maybe this pain at right now my friend. Maybe this pain at right now my friend. Maybe this pain you've been through somewhere is the you've been through somewhere is the you've been through somewhere is the pathway for that expression to help pathway for that expression to help pathway for that expression to help other people and to your fulfillment. other people and to your fulfillment. other people and to your fulfillment. >> I believe Ed like you that ultimately >> I believe Ed like you that ultimately >> I believe Ed like you that ultimately the life you live are the lessons you the life you live are the lessons you the life you live are the lessons you teach. The O in max out stands for teach. The O in max out stands for teach. The O in max out stands for observation. A lot of people say I have observation. A lot of people say I have observation. A lot of people say I have a horrible memory and it's their they a horrible memory and it's their they a horrible memory and it's their they blame their retention. It's not your blame their retention. It's not your blame their retention. It's not your retention, it's your attention. retention, it's your attention. retention, it's your attention. >> You know, I got to the story I tell is >> You know, I got to the story I tell is >> You know, I got to the story I tell is um um um >> come on that was great. >> come on that was great. >> come on that was great. >> The second time I got to uh I got to >> The second time I got to uh I got to >> The second time I got to uh I got to meet President Bill Clinton meet President Bill Clinton meet President Bill Clinton >> and regardless of people's political >> and regardless of people's political >> and regardless of people's political ideology, everyone would agree he's got ideology, everyone would agree he's got ideology, everyone would agree he's got a lot of charisma. He's a great a lot of charisma. He's a great a lot of charisma. He's a great connector, a great communicator. What connector, a great communicator. What connector, a great communicator. What people don't know, he's got an people don't know, he's got an people don't know, he's got an incredible memory. An incredible memory. incredible memory. An incredible memory. incredible memory. An incredible memory. The first time I met him was very, very The first time I met him was very, very The first time I met him was very, very brief. But the second time he remembered brief. But the second time he remembered brief. But the second time he remembered my name and I was like, "Okay." He was my name and I was like, "Okay." He was my name and I was like, "Okay." He was fed that by security. fed that by security. fed that by security. >> And then he he remember our last >> And then he he remember our last >> And then he he remember our last conversation. I was like, "Nobody was conversation. I was like, "Nobody was conversation. I was like, "Nobody was there. there. there. >> He definitely remembers this." And I was >> He definitely remembers this." And I was >> He definitely remembers this." And I was like, "You know, you know, I I'm the like, "You know, you know, I I'm the like, "You know, you know, I I'm the memory guy. How do you do this? What memory guy. How do you do this? What memory guy. How do you do this? What memory technique are you using?" Because memory technique are you using?" Because memory technique are you using?" Because I believe genius leaves clues. And he I believe genius leaves clues. And he I believe genius leaves clues. And he tells me these stories about his tells me these stories about his tells me these stories about his grandfather in Arkansas in the living grandfather in Arkansas in the living grandfather in Arkansas in the living room telling the grandkids all these room telling the grandkids all these room telling the grandkids all these stories, but he would do something stories, but he would do something stories, but he would do something different. Afterwards, he would quiz different. Afterwards, he would quiz different. Afterwards, he would quiz every single one of them to see if every single one of them to see if every single one of them to see if they're really paying attention. M they're really paying attention. M they're really paying attention. M >> and I was like, "Wow, that's" and he >> and I was like, "Wow, that's" and he >> and I was like, "Wow, that's" and he went he went deep in that rabbit hole. went he went deep in that rabbit hole. went he went deep in that rabbit hole. And I noticed when he [clears throat] And I noticed when he [clears throat] And I noticed when he [clears throat] was explaining this to me, we're at was explaining this to me, we're at was explaining this to me, we're at we're at a a fundraiser. It's 2,000 we're at a a fundraiser. It's 2,000 we're at a a fundraiser. It's 2,000 people. And I was sitting right next to people. And I was sitting right next to people. And I was sitting right next to him at dinner and it was like me him at dinner and it was like me him at dinner and it was like me >> uh Forest Whitaker who won the Academy >> uh Forest Whitaker who won the Academy >> uh Forest Whitaker who won the Academy Award, Richard Branson, Ashton Kutcher, Award, Richard Branson, Ashton Kutcher, Award, Richard Branson, Ashton Kutcher, >> Ashton Kutcher's twin brother. I put it >> Ashton Kutcher's twin brother. I put it >> Ashton Kutcher's twin brother. I put it on on on you know Facebook on on on you know Facebook on on on you know Facebook but I I was like this when he's talking but I I was like this when he's talking but I I was like this when he's talking to me to me to me >> he's like there's a lot more important >> he's like there's a lot more important >> he's like there's a lot more important people in that room certainly at that people in that room certainly at that people in that room certainly at that table but I feel like I'm the only one table but I feel like I'm the only one table but I feel like I'm the only one and and this is a quality that you have and and this is a quality that you have and and this is a quality that you have like I can feel this because I believe like I can feel this because I believe like I can feel this because I believe like you know you go to events you were like you know you go to events you were like you know you go to events you were talking about remembering names and talking about remembering names and talking about remembering names and they're looking over your shoulder and they're looking over your shoulder and they're looking over your shoulder and like who else is important in this room like who else is important in this room like who else is important in this room and you know and everyone feels and you know and everyone feels and you know and everyone feels especially women they feel like when especially women they feel like when especially women they feel like when your attention goes somewhere else they your attention goes somewhere else they your attention goes somewhere else they know it right away or if it's not being know it right away or if it's not being know it right away or if it's not being distracted outside, you know, they're distracted outside, you know, they're distracted outside, you know, they're not paying attention. Yes. Because what not paying attention. Yes. Because what not paying attention. Yes. Because what are they doing? They're not listening. are they doing? They're not listening. are they doing? They're not listening. They're waiting for their turn to speak They're waiting for their turn to speak They're waiting for their turn to speak or they're thinking how they're going to or they're thinking how they're going to or they're thinking how they're going to respond. Yes. Right. Another another respond. Yes. Right. Another another respond. Yes. Right. Another another habit of highly effective people seek habit of highly effective people seek habit of highly effective people seek first to understand. You got it. first to understand. You got it. first to understand. You got it. >> Then to be understood. Most people, they >> Then to be understood. Most people, they >> Then to be understood. Most people, they want to be understood and they're want to be understood and they're want to be understood and they're thinking about that and they're not thinking about that and they're not thinking about that and they're not >> so powerful. >> so powerful. >> so powerful. >> And they're not interested. They're just >> And they're not interested. They're just >> And they're not interested. They're just trying to be interesting. trying to be interesting. trying to be interesting. >> The most Oh my gosh. They're trying to >> The most Oh my gosh. They're trying to >> The most Oh my gosh. They're trying to be interesting. They're not interested. be interesting. They're not interested. be interesting. They're not interested. That's powerful. Let's just slow that That's powerful. Let's just slow that That's powerful. Let's just slow that down a little bit. The people whose down a little bit. The people whose down a little bit. The people whose company I enjoy the most, who are some company I enjoy the most, who are some company I enjoy the most, who are some of the most influential people I've ever of the most influential people I've ever of the most influential people I've ever met, have that exact skill set that met, have that exact skill set that met, have that exact skill set that you've just described. They are less you've just described. They are less you've just described. They are less interested in being interesting and they interested in being interesting and they interested in being interesting and they are more interested in you. That is are more interested in you. That is are more interested in you. That is 100,000% 100,000% 100,000% true. true. true. >> And Ed, just an explanation, like >> And Ed, just an explanation, like >> And Ed, just an explanation, like they're they're present with you. You they're they're present with you. You they're they're present with you. You know what I mean? Like like you are know what I mean? Like like you are know what I mean? Like like you are since I walked through this door. You're since I walked through this door. You're since I walked through this door. You're you're there. And that's that and that's you're there. And that's that and that's you're there. And that's that and that's a trained skill. Listen. If you write a trained skill. Listen. If you write a trained skill. Listen. If you write the word listen on your phone or just in the word listen on your phone or just in the word listen on your phone or just in your notes and then scramble the your notes and then scramble the your notes and then scramble the letters, it spells another word letters, it spells another word letters, it spells another word perfectly. perfectly. perfectly. >> It spells the word silent. >> It spells the word silent. >> It spells the word silent. >> And most people, they can't they're not >> And most people, they can't they're not >> And most people, they can't they're not silent. They're talking to themselves silent. They're talking to themselves silent. They're talking to themselves and they're distracting. If you're and they're distracting. If you're and they're distracting. If you're talking to yourself and listening to a talking to yourself and listening to a talking to yourself and listening to a new person talk, you can't listen to two new person talk, you can't listen to two new person talk, you can't listen to two conversations at once. You can't conversations at once. You can't conversations at once. You can't multitask. By the way, just as a side multitask. By the way, just as a side multitask. By the way, just as a side note, there's a myth to multitasking. note, there's a myth to multitasking. note, there's a myth to multitasking. Everybody, I just have to address this. Everybody, I just have to address this. Everybody, I just have to address this. >> Give it. I know. >> Give it. I know. >> Give it. I know. >> Yeah. Because, and you know this, the >> Yeah. Because, and you know this, the >> Yeah. Because, and you know this, the science is saying, everyone who thinks science is saying, everyone who thinks science is saying, everyone who thinks you're doing two cognitive activities, you're doing two cognitive activities, you're doing two cognitive activities, I'm not talking about riding a bike and I'm not talking about riding a bike and I'm not talking about riding a bike and chewing gum. I'm talking about two chewing gum. I'm talking about two chewing gum. I'm talking about two cognitive activities, you're not really cognitive activities, you're not really cognitive activities, you're not really doing it. It's called task switching. doing it. It's called task switching. doing it. It's called task switching. That when you go from one thing to That when you go from one thing to That when you go from one thing to another, which you're making more another, which you're making more another, which you're making more mistakes. Science has shown this. You're mistakes. Science has shown this. You're mistakes. Science has shown this. You're making more errors and you're wasting making more errors and you're wasting making more errors and you're wasting time. It takes anywhere from 5 to 20 time. It takes anywhere from 5 to 20 time. It takes anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes to regain your focus and your minutes to regain your focus and your minutes to regain your focus and your flow. What do you do? flow. What do you do? flow. What do you do? >> You hydrate because your brain's mostly >> You hydrate because your brain's mostly >> You hydrate because your brain's mostly water. Even a two or 3% decrease in water. Even a two or 3% decrease in water. Even a two or 3% decrease in water in your brain could could reduce water in your brain could could reduce water in your brain could could reduce your reaction time, your thinking your reaction time, your thinking your reaction time, your thinking ability. When you're fully hydrated, it ability. When you're fully hydrated, it ability. When you're fully hydrated, it boosts like 30% reaction time thinking. boosts like 30% reaction time thinking. boosts like 30% reaction time thinking. Hydrate and then breathe. Deep Hydrate and then breathe. Deep Hydrate and then breathe. Deep breathing, right? Get those six deep breathing, right? Get those six deep breathing, right? Get those six deep breaths in. Actually, to create breaths in. Actually, to create breaths in. Actually, to create neurogenesis, neuroplasticity to neurogenesis, neuroplasticity to neurogenesis, neuroplasticity to literally just get smarter. You need two literally just get smarter. You need two literally just get smarter. You need two things. Novelty and nutrition. things. Novelty and nutrition. things. Novelty and nutrition. >> Just like if you want to build your >> Just like if you want to build your >> Just like if you want to build your body, you give it novelty. You work it body, you give it novelty. You work it body, you give it novelty. You work it out. Okay? out. Okay? out. Okay? >> You know, and then you give it >> You know, and then you give it >> You know, and then you give it nutrition, you feed it, and then you nutrition, you feed it, and then you nutrition, you feed it, and then you rest. because the rest is really rest. because the rest is really rest. because the rest is really important because that's where you important because that's where you important because that's where you consolidate short to long-term memory. consolidate short to long-term memory. consolidate short to long-term memory. So the O is observation, the U I would So the O is observation, the U I would So the O is observation, the U I would go to use and I'm doing this on the spot go to use and I'm doing this on the spot go to use and I'm doing this on the spot because I know these are the principles, because I know these are the principles, because I know these are the principles, but I would say to remember a name, use but I would say to remember a name, use but I would say to remember a name, use the name in the conversation, the name in the conversation, the name in the conversation, >> right? So you some somebody introduces >> right? So you some somebody introduces >> right? So you some somebody introduces themselves and you get it and you say it themselves and you get it and you say it themselves and you get it and you say it and you use it because you want to make and you use it because you want to make and you use it because you want to make sure you heard it right. You don't want sure you heard it right. You don't want sure you heard it right. You don't want to have a conversation with with Ed and to have a conversation with with Ed and to have a conversation with with Ed and say goodbye Ted, say goodbye Ted, say goodbye Ted, >> right? Because some people, you're at a >> right? Because some people, you're at a >> right? Because some people, you're at a wedding, you're at an event, it's it's wedding, you're at an event, it's it's wedding, you're at an event, it's it's loud, you get distracted. Better to be loud, you get distracted. Better to be loud, you get distracted. Better to be corrected in the beginning. And then I'm corrected in the beginning. And then I'm corrected in the beginning. And then I'm not saying I'm not going to say use it a not saying I'm not going to say use it a not saying I'm not going to say use it a million times. Ed, you have a beautiful million times. Ed, you have a beautiful million times. Ed, you have a beautiful home. Ed, what do you want to talk home. Ed, what do you want to talk home. Ed, what do you want to talk about? Ed, what? That's abuse. But use about? Ed, what? That's abuse. But use about? Ed, what? That's abuse. But use it three or four times in the it three or four times in the it three or four times in the conversation. Now, in the context of conversation. Now, in the context of conversation. Now, in the context of non-remembering names, use it because non-remembering names, use it because non-remembering names, use it because anything you learn, if you want to learn anything you learn, if you want to learn anything you learn, if you want to learn it better, right, if you want to max out it better, right, if you want to max out it better, right, if you want to max out with your ability to apply, then you with your ability to apply, then you with your ability to apply, then you want to always think about how do I use want to always think about how do I use want to always think about how do I use this obsessively? when you're reading this obsessively? when you're reading this obsessively? when you're reading something, how can I use this? When something, how can I use this? When something, how can I use this? When you're listening to podcast, how can I you're listening to podcast, how can I you're listening to podcast, how can I use this instantly? Right? So, even use this instantly? Right? So, even use this instantly? Right? So, even people listening to this could be people listening to this could be people listening to this could be thinking, okay, I have this event thinking, okay, I have this event thinking, okay, I have this event tonight or I have this event tomorrow. tonight or I have this event tomorrow. tonight or I have this event tomorrow. Which what am I how am I going to use Which what am I how am I going to use Which what am I how am I going to use this? Right? So, I'm going to use it. this? Right? So, I'm going to use it. this? Right? So, I'm going to use it. >> And then finally, the T in max out, I >> And then finally, the T in max out, I >> And then finally, the T in max out, I would say teach. would say teach. would say teach. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, intention intent matters. >> You know, intention intent matters. >> You know, intention intent matters. >> Intent matters. And what I would suggest >> Intent matters. And what I would suggest >> Intent matters. And what I would suggest everybody do, and I would challenge everybody do, and I would challenge everybody do, and I would challenge everyone who's listening to do this, everyone who's listening to do this, everyone who's listening to do this, because with challenge comes the change because with challenge comes the change because with challenge comes the change that you need, right? I would challenge that you need, right? I would challenge that you need, right? I would challenge everybody who's listening, if you're everybody who's listening, if you're everybody who's listening, if you're really serious, to use this and not just really serious, to use this and not just really serious, to use this and not just be like, "Oh, that was an entertaining be like, "Oh, that was an entertaining be like, "Oh, that was an entertaining show." I would say, "Think about show." I would say, "Think about show." I would say, "Think about somebody you wish was listening to this somebody you wish was listening to this somebody you wish was listening to this right now." And let's say you had to right now." And let's say you had to right now." And let's say you had to teach them tomorrow or teach them or teach them tomorrow or teach them or teach them tomorrow or teach them or give a TED presentation on Monday about give a TED presentation on Monday about give a TED presentation on Monday about the things. If you were to learn with the things. If you were to learn with the things. If you were to learn with the intention of teaching, would you the intention of teaching, would you the intention of teaching, would you focus better? Would you take better focus better? Would you take better focus better? Would you take better notes? Would you ask better questions on notes? Would you ask better questions on notes? Would you ask better questions on social media? Right? You would own that social media? Right? You would own that social media? Right? You would own that information. And so, when you teach information. And so, when you teach information. And so, when you teach something, my gosh, something, my gosh, something, my gosh, >> you get to learn it twice. It's >> you get to learn it twice. It's >> you get to learn it twice. It's >> when you teach something, you get to >> when you teach something, you get to >> when you teach something, you get to learn it twice. You know, when when we learn it twice. You know, when when we learn it twice. You know, when when we grew up and we heard that phrase, those grew up and we heard that phrase, those grew up and we heard that phrase, those who can't do teach like you can't do, who can't do teach like you can't do, who can't do teach like you can't do, you know, business, so teach it in you know, business, so teach it in you know, business, so teach it in business school. You know, yes, there's business school. You know, yes, there's business school. You know, yes, there's a certain truth, but then also I always a certain truth, but then also I always a certain truth, but then also I always thought it wasn't a negative. I was thought it wasn't a negative. I was thought it wasn't a negative. I was like, wow, if I can't do it, teach it like, wow, if I can't do it, teach it like, wow, if I can't do it, teach it and then I could do it. Yes. You know, I and then I could do it. Yes. You know, I and then I could do it. Yes. You know, I could get better at it because when you could get better at it because when you could get better at it because when you teach it, you own it. It becomes you. teach it, you own it. It becomes you. teach it, you own it. It becomes you. You're not using You're not using You're not using >> their words, you're using your words and >> their words, you're using your words and >> their words, you're using your words and you it becomes, you know, who you are. you it becomes, you know, who you are. you it becomes, you know, who you are. >> About 20 years ago, I got into the space >> About 20 years ago, I got into the space >> About 20 years ago, I got into the space of teaching people. And so since that of teaching people. And so since that of teaching people. And so since that time, everything I've listened to time, everything I've listened to time, everything I've listened to related to these topics, everything I've related to these topics, everything I've related to these topics, everything I've read, every seminar I've attended was at read, every seminar I've attended was at read, every seminar I've attended was at the was was with the intention to teach the was was with the intention to teach the was was with the intention to teach it. it. it. >> That's beautiful. >> That's beautiful. >> That's beautiful. >> It it's exactly what you just said. So >> It it's exactly what you just said. So >> It it's exactly what you just said. So I'm I'm I'm getting a double whammy I'm I'm I'm getting a double whammy I'm I'm I'm getting a double whammy every single time on all of these today every single time on all of these today every single time on all of these today and having you here. I'm listening with and having you here. I'm listening with and having you here. I'm listening with the intent to teach these things the intent to teach these things the intent to teach these things >> and you and you because it becomes you >> and you and you because it becomes you >> and you and you because it becomes you and then that's a double benefit double and then that's a double benefit double and then that's a double benefit double whammy because you why learn anything? whammy because you why learn anything? whammy because you why learn anything? Number one, so you could benefit from Number one, so you could benefit from Number one, so you could benefit from it, but why learn it also? So people you it, but why learn it also? So people you it, but why learn it also? So people you care about could benefit it too. I care about could benefit it too. I care about could benefit it too. I always believe it was you learn to earn always believe it was you learn to earn always believe it was you learn to earn to return. to return. to return. >> Oh, that's so good. >> Oh, that's so good. >> Oh, that's so good. >> You learn and then with the learning >> You learn and then with the learning >> You learn and then with the learning comes earning and then you could return. comes earning and then you could return. comes earning and then you could return. You could you could pay it forward. You could you could pay it forward. You could you could pay it forward. >> Welcome back to the show everybody. >> Welcome back to the show everybody. >> Welcome back to the show everybody. Today's special for me because I get to Today's special for me because I get to Today's special for me because I get to uh I get to share with you I just think uh I get to share with you I just think uh I get to share with you I just think one of the most remarkable people one of the most remarkable people one of the most remarkable people walking the earth. She's walking the earth. She's walking the earth. She's >> she's an amazing woman. I just I just >> she's an amazing woman. I just I just >> she's an amazing woman. I just I just know I like her very much. And so any know I like her very much. And so any know I like her very much. And so any chance I get a chance to any opportunity chance I get a chance to any opportunity chance I get a chance to any opportunity to spend time with her is a blessing for to spend time with her is a blessing for to spend time with her is a blessing for me. And I know it'll be a blessing for me. And I know it'll be a blessing for me. And I know it'll be a blessing for all of you. You all know who she is. all of you. You all know who she is. all of you. You all know who she is. There's a lot of things I can say. She's There's a lot of things I can say. She's There's a lot of things I can say. She's a journalist. She's an author. Emmy a journalist. She's an author. Emmy a journalist. She's an author. Emmy award winner. She was the first lady of award winner. She was the first lady of award winner. She was the first lady of California. She's a philanthropist. California. She's a philanthropist. California. She's a philanthropist. But she's just a remarkable and good But she's just a remarkable and good But she's just a remarkable and good human being. And you're going to feel human being. And you're going to feel human being. And you're going to feel her spirit today. So, I'm really her spirit today. So, I'm really her spirit today. So, I'm really grateful she's here. Maria Shrivever, grateful she's here. Maria Shrivever, grateful she's here. Maria Shrivever, welcome to the show. welcome to the show. welcome to the show. >> Thank you, Ed. I'm kind of blushing. >> Thank you, Ed. I'm kind of blushing. >> Thank you, Ed. I'm kind of blushing. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> It's all true. And there's like 80 other >> It's all true. And there's like 80 other >> It's all true. And there's like 80 other things I can say. You know what else? things I can say. You know what else? things I can say. You know what else? She's an amazing mother, too. And so She's an amazing mother, too. And so She's an amazing mother, too. And so when [clears throat] you have someone when [clears throat] you have someone when [clears throat] you have someone that's this diverse, she had an amazing that's this diverse, she had an amazing that's this diverse, she had an amazing life, by the way, everybody. You can go life, by the way, everybody. You can go life, by the way, everybody. You can go in a lot of directions. So we're going in a lot of directions. So we're going in a lot of directions. So we're going to talk about all kinds of things. We're to talk about all kinds of things. We're to talk about all kinds of things. We're talk about, you know, life, wisdom, talk about, you know, life, wisdom, talk about, you know, life, wisdom, parenting. We're going to talk about parenting. We're going to talk about parenting. We're going to talk about Alzheimer's. It's going to be a Alzheimer's. It's going to be a Alzheimer's. It's going to be a farreaching convo. farreaching convo. farreaching convo. >> That's a lot. >> That's a lot. >> That's a lot. >> Are you ready? >> Are you ready? >> Are you ready? >> Oh, I'm always ready. I'm all ready. I'm >> Oh, I'm always ready. I'm all ready. I'm >> Oh, I'm always ready. I'm all ready. I'm always ready to go in whatever direction always ready to go in whatever direction always ready to go in whatever direction you take me. you take me. you take me. >> All right. I'm gonna [snorts] take you >> All right. I'm gonna [snorts] take you >> All right. I'm gonna [snorts] take you all over the place today. So all over the place today. So all over the place today. So >> I when we met, you obviously I'm you >> I when we met, you obviously I'm you >> I when we met, you obviously I'm you spirit. I immediately loved and liked spirit. I immediately loved and liked spirit. I immediately loved and liked you very much, but then I'm like, I'm you very much, but then I'm like, I'm you very much, but then I'm like, I'm going to learn more about her. So, I going to learn more about her. So, I going to learn more about her. So, I read a couple of your books right away, read a couple of your books right away, read a couple of your books right away, like within a couple weeks of us like within a couple weeks of us like within a couple weeks of us meeting. Yeah, you guys, she's an amaz meeting. Yeah, you guys, she's an amaz meeting. Yeah, you guys, she's an amaz She's known as a journalist. I think She's known as a journalist. I think She's known as a journalist. I think most people think TV or something like most people think TV or something like most people think TV or something like She's an amazing writer. She's an She's an amazing writer. She's an She's an amazing writer. She's an amazing writer. And so, I want to ask amazing writer. And so, I want to ask amazing writer. And so, I want to ask you this there. You wrote this book, 10 you this there. You wrote this book, 10 you this there. You wrote this book, 10 things I wish I'd known before I went things I wish I'd known before I went things I wish I'd known before I went out into the real world. out into the real world. out into the real world. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Could you share with everybody what one >> Could you share with everybody what one >> Could you share with everybody what one or two of those things were? I know what or two of those things were? I know what or two of those things were? I know what they are, but could you share with them they are, but could you share with them they are, but could you share with them because people watching the show, a lot because people watching the show, a lot because people watching the show, a lot of them are younger, some of them are of them are younger, some of them are of them are younger, some of them are our age, but they're all looking for our age, but they're all looking for our age, but they're all looking for some kind of wisdom to make their life some kind of wisdom to make their life some kind of wisdom to make their life better. And in this book, there was a better. And in this book, there was a better. And in this book, there was a bunch bunch bunch >> there. That was a while ago. I wrote >> there. That was a while ago. I wrote >> there. That was a while ago. I wrote that. I gave a graduation speech that. I gave a graduation speech that. I gave a graduation speech actually. And it came out of that actually. And it came out of that actually. And it came out of that graduation speech where I talked about graduation speech where I talked about graduation speech where I talked about uh career, I talked about marriage, I uh career, I talked about marriage, I uh career, I talked about marriage, I talked about motherhood, I talked about talked about motherhood, I talked about talked about motherhood, I talked about working your way up uh from the bottom. working your way up uh from the bottom. working your way up uh from the bottom. I talked about who you work for being I talked about who you work for being I talked about who you work for being more important than what you do. more important than what you do. more important than what you do. >> Um I talked about the definition of >> Um I talked about the definition of >> Um I talked about the definition of success. I I thought I would actually success. I I thought I would actually success. I I thought I would actually write a sequel to that book uh kind of write a sequel to that book uh kind of write a sequel to that book uh kind of 101 15 years afterwards. and I started 101 15 years afterwards. and I started 101 15 years afterwards. and I started it and then kind of my life blew up. So, it and then kind of my life blew up. So, it and then kind of my life blew up. So, I learned a lot of things uh that would I learned a lot of things uh that would I learned a lot of things uh that would go into the sequel that I never go into the sequel that I never go into the sequel that I never anticipated. But I think one of a couple anticipated. But I think one of a couple anticipated. But I think one of a couple of the things that really still I think of the things that really still I think of the things that really still I think apply um these many years later is the apply um these many years later is the apply um these many years later is the importance I believe in working your way importance I believe in working your way importance I believe in working your way up in whatever it is you do. I know some up in whatever it is you do. I know some up in whatever it is you do. I know some people say, "Well, you don't have to do people say, "Well, you don't have to do people say, "Well, you don't have to do that anymore." And I couldn't disagree that anymore." And I couldn't disagree that anymore." And I couldn't disagree more. I think it's really important uh more. I think it's really important uh more. I think it's really important uh to do every kind of a job in the to do every kind of a job in the to do every kind of a job in the profession that you choose to be in. profession that you choose to be in. profession that you choose to be in. >> Why? Why? >> Why? Why? >> Why? Why? >> Because I think you learn first of all I >> Because I think you learn first of all I >> Because I think you learn first of all I think it gives you self-confidence. I think it gives you self-confidence. I think it gives you self-confidence. I think it gives you knowledge. I think think it gives you knowledge. I think think it gives you knowledge. I think you know in journalism for me I started you know in journalism for me I started you know in journalism for me I started on the overnight. I did the police on the overnight. I did the police on the overnight. I did the police radio. I logged other people's tapes. I radio. I logged other people's tapes. I radio. I logged other people's tapes. I wrote other people's scripts. I was a wrote other people's scripts. I was a wrote other people's scripts. I was a producer. I was in the edit room. I producer. I was in the edit room. I producer. I was in the edit room. I learned lighting. I was a soundwoman. learned lighting. I was a soundwoman. learned lighting. I was a soundwoman. So when I go out into the field, I know So when I go out into the field, I know So when I go out into the field, I know about lighting, I know about sound, I about lighting, I know about sound, I about lighting, I know about sound, I know how to produce, I know how to know how to produce, I know how to know how to produce, I know how to write, I know how to edit. And it's write, I know how to edit. And it's write, I know how to edit. And it's helped me in every way uh in my uh helped me in every way uh in my uh helped me in every way uh in my uh career. And also it helped me build up career. And also it helped me build up career. And also it helped me build up my self-confidence that I could take my self-confidence that I could take my self-confidence that I could take care of myself out in the field and then care of myself out in the field and then care of myself out in the field and then behind the anchor desk. So that to the behind the anchor desk. So that to the behind the anchor desk. So that to the point where when I got to the anchor point where when I got to the anchor point where when I got to the anchor desk, I felt like I deserved to be there desk, I felt like I deserved to be there desk, I felt like I deserved to be there regardless of what anybody else said. regardless of what anybody else said. regardless of what anybody else said. >> You deserved it. >> You deserved it. >> You deserved it. >> I deserved it and I knew I deserved it. >> I deserved it and I knew I deserved it. >> I deserved it and I knew I deserved it. So I think that's super important. I So I think that's super important. I So I think that's super important. I think also who you work for is super think also who you work for is super think also who you work for is super important. important. important. >> Um I think you can go get a big job for >> Um I think you can go get a big job for >> Um I think you can go get a big job for someone you don't respect or admire or someone you don't respect or admire or someone you don't respect or admire or you can start at the bottom with someone you can start at the bottom with someone you can start at the bottom with someone you respect and admire and then work you respect and admire and then work you respect and admire and then work your way up. So I'm a big believer in your way up. So I'm a big believer in your way up. So I'm a big believer in that as well. And so, you know, there's that as well. And so, you know, there's that as well. And so, you know, there's a lot um I think also kind of the whole a lot um I think also kind of the whole a lot um I think also kind of the whole superwoman thing being overrated. I superwoman thing being overrated. I superwoman thing being overrated. I think that was a big chapter I think for think that was a big chapter I think for think that was a big chapter I think for women uh when I was starting out and I women uh when I was starting out and I women uh when I was starting out and I still think it worth it's worth uh still think it worth it's worth uh still think it worth it's worth uh talking about. Um, there's a lot on talking about. Um, there's a lot on talking about. Um, there's a lot on women's plates. If you choose to have a women's plates. If you choose to have a women's plates. If you choose to have a high-powered career, if you also want to high-powered career, if you also want to high-powered career, if you also want to be a wife, if you want to be a mother, be a wife, if you want to be a mother, be a wife, if you want to be a mother, if you take on the role of daughter, if if you take on the role of daughter, if if you take on the role of daughter, if you take on the role of caretaker, you take on the role of caretaker, you take on the role of caretaker, whatever, all these multiple roles. I whatever, all these multiple roles. I whatever, all these multiple roles. I think pacing yourself is really think pacing yourself is really think pacing yourself is really important important important >> and um acknowledging the kind of >> and um acknowledging the kind of >> and um acknowledging the kind of marathon of life as opposed to the marathon of life as opposed to the marathon of life as opposed to the moment where everybody looks like moment where everybody looks like moment where everybody looks like they're getting ahead of you. Gosh, they're getting ahead of you. Gosh, they're getting ahead of you. Gosh, Maria, I got to tell you that's very Maria, I got to tell you that's very Maria, I got to tell you that's very true for me. I just acknowledge that. I true for me. I just acknowledge that. I true for me. I just acknowledge that. I think I've discovered that maybe just in think I've discovered that maybe just in think I've discovered that maybe just in the last year or two that there there the last year or two that there there the last year or two that there there should be a pacing because that pacing, should be a pacing because that pacing, should be a pacing because that pacing, I think, gives a richness to your I think, gives a richness to your I think, gives a richness to your experience experience experience >> that you don't have if you're just all >> that you don't have if you're just all >> that you don't have if you're just all the time. the time. the time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's it steals some of the richness >> There's it steals some of the richness >> There's it steals some of the richness out of your life of being even present out of your life of being even present out of your life of being even present in certain places because you're so in certain places because you're so in certain places because you're so focused all the time on do do. And I do focused all the time on do do. And I do focused all the time on do do. And I do think you miss so many things. I totally think you miss so many things. I totally think you miss so many things. I totally agree with you on that. I think we don't agree with you on that. I think we don't agree with you on that. I think we don't really have a culture that honors that, really have a culture that honors that, really have a culture that honors that, right? We don't really have a society right? We don't really have a society right? We don't really have a society that honors you kind of going slow. that honors you kind of going slow. that honors you kind of going slow. Everybody when they meet you, what are Everybody when they meet you, what are Everybody when they meet you, what are you doing now? You write a book and you doing now? You write a book and you doing now? You write a book and they're like, what's next? You meet a they're like, what's next? You meet a they're like, what's next? You meet a guy. When are you getting married? When guy. When are you getting married? When guy. When are you getting married? When are you having a kid? When are you are you having a kid? When are you are you having a kid? When are you having your next kid? We're always I having your next kid? We're always I having your next kid? We're always I gave another graduation speech called gave another graduation speech called gave another graduation speech called the power of the pause. And I really the power of the pause. And I really the power of the pause. And I really think that that's super important is to, think that that's super important is to, think that that's super important is to, you know, pause in your life, you know, pause in your life, you know, pause in your life, particularly in journalism where particularly in journalism where particularly in journalism where everything is like, you know, reactive. everything is like, you know, reactive. everything is like, you know, reactive. Let's get this up. Let's get it up now. Let's get this up. Let's get it up now. Let's get this up. Let's get it up now. Wait a minute. Should we get it up now? Wait a minute. Should we get it up now? Wait a minute. Should we get it up now? >> Do I really need to send that text? >> Do I really need to send that text? >> Do I really need to send that text? >> Do I really need to respond from that >> Do I really need to respond from that >> Do I really need to respond from that place? place? place? >> Do I really need to be first with that >> Do I really need to be first with that >> Do I really need to be first with that story even if I haven't double triple story even if I haven't double triple story even if I haven't double triple checked it? M checked it? M checked it? M >> um so I think there's a lot to honor in >> um so I think there's a lot to honor in >> um so I think there's a lot to honor in the pause, but we don't honor it when the pause, but we don't honor it when the pause, but we don't honor it when someone says um I'm taking a pause. We someone says um I'm taking a pause. We someone says um I'm taking a pause. We think what what's that about? think what what's that about? think what what's that about? >> Right. That's a weakness almost. >> Right. That's a weakness almost. >> Right. That's a weakness almost. >> Yeah. Well, not almost. We don't we >> Yeah. Well, not almost. We don't we >> Yeah. Well, not almost. We don't we don't see it um as a sign of strength, don't see it um as a sign of strength, don't see it um as a sign of strength, as a sign of um getting to know as a sign of um getting to know as a sign of um getting to know yourself, as a sign of trying to be more yourself, as a sign of trying to be more yourself, as a sign of trying to be more present. present. present. >> You know, it's interesting. I was just >> You know, it's interesting. I was just >> You know, it's interesting. I was just writing about this actually and I was writing about this actually and I was writing about this actually and I was saying, you know, a full life requires saying, you know, a full life requires saying, you know, a full life requires some reflection during it. And I think some reflection during it. And I think some reflection during it. And I think that's part of the pause, [laughter] that's part of the pause, [laughter] that's part of the pause, [laughter] don't you, though? I mean, I think that don't you, though? I mean, I think that don't you, though? I mean, I think that I think if in order to grow, there has I think if in order to grow, there has I think if in order to grow, there has to be some rest period of reflection. If to be some rest period of reflection. If to be some rest period of reflection. If you just worked out in the gym every day you just worked out in the gym every day you just worked out in the gym every day on the same muscle and it never had a on the same muscle and it never had a on the same muscle and it never had a chance to pause and grow and reflect chance to pause and grow and reflect chance to pause and grow and reflect that, you're just tearing it down all that, you're just tearing it down all that, you're just tearing it down all the time. And so a lot of times I think the time. And so a lot of times I think the time. And so a lot of times I think you can get a little bit further in your you can get a little bit further in your you can get a little bit further in your life and there's stages for this life and there's stages for this life and there's stages for this obviously but you know there's you get obviously but you know there's you get obviously but you know there's you get further in your life and you you've further in your life and you you've further in your life and you you've acquired all these things acquired all these things acquired all these things >> or achievements maybe they're not even >> or achievements maybe they're not even >> or achievements maybe they're not even material things they're just awards or material things they're just awards or material things they're just awards or you were first at this or but there was you were first at this or but there was you were first at this or but there was no real richness to your life and that's no real richness to your life and that's no real richness to your life and that's why I'm so grateful that you're on and why I'm so grateful that you're on and why I'm so grateful that you're on and you're actually saying these things you're actually saying these things you're actually saying these things because I'm writing about it right now. because I'm writing about it right now. because I'm writing about it right now. So I agree. So I agree. So I agree. >> That's great that you're writing about >> That's great that you're writing about >> That's great that you're writing about it because I think oftenimes people it because I think oftenimes people it because I think oftenimes people can't see that. you know, they don't see can't see that. you know, they don't see can't see that. you know, they don't see the pause. the pause. the pause. >> They don't see uh reflection. >> They don't see uh reflection. >> They don't see uh reflection. >> They don't see you taking a break and >> They don't see you taking a break and >> They don't see you taking a break and going in and thinking about um what do I going in and thinking about um what do I going in and thinking about um what do I think about this? Somebody once said, think about this? Somebody once said, think about this? Somebody once said, you know, they they told me that they you know, they they told me that they you know, they they told me that they were sitting there at a desk and just were sitting there at a desk and just were sitting there at a desk and just kind of staring into space and someone kind of staring into space and someone kind of staring into space and someone came in and said, "What are you doing?" came in and said, "What are you doing?" came in and said, "What are you doing?" And they said, "This is what thinking And they said, "This is what thinking And they said, "This is what thinking looks like." [laughter] looks like." [laughter] looks like." [laughter] >> That's awesome. You know, we need to >> That's awesome. You know, we need to >> That's awesome. You know, we need to have like what does it look like to have like what does it look like to have like what does it look like to pause? What does it look like to pause? What does it look like to pause? What does it look like to daydream? What does it look like to be daydream? What does it look like to be daydream? What does it look like to be bored? What does it look like to be bored? What does it look like to be bored? What does it look like to be reflective? Um I came from two parents reflective? Um I came from two parents reflective? Um I came from two parents who went to mass every single day. And who went to mass every single day. And who went to mass every single day. And that was where they um were quiet. that was where they um were quiet. that was where they um were quiet. >> Um so I had a visual of what praying >> Um so I had a visual of what praying >> Um so I had a visual of what praying looked like. I had a visual for going to looked like. I had a visual for going to looked like. I had a visual for going to church, you know, but I didn't have a church, you know, but I didn't have a church, you know, but I didn't have a visual for being. visual for being. visual for being. >> I had a visual for doing >> I had a visual for doing >> I had a visual for doing >> doing those things, >> doing those things, >> doing those things, >> doing doing, but I didn't have a visual >> doing doing, but I didn't have a visual >> doing doing, but I didn't have a visual for sitting down and going, [sighs] for sitting down and going, [sighs] for sitting down and going, [sighs] okay, okay, okay, >> what does that look like? >> what does that look like? >> what does that look like? >> Yeah. And so I've tried to model some of >> Yeah. And so I've tried to model some of >> Yeah. And so I've tried to model some of that um for my children that you know that um for my children that you know that um for my children that you know how I feel about you, my love for you is how I feel about you, my love for you is how I feel about you, my love for you is not predicated on your doing, on your not predicated on your doing, on your not predicated on your doing, on your accomplishing, on your uh winning. accomplishing, on your uh winning. accomplishing, on your uh winning. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> My love for you is there. >> My love for you is there. >> My love for you is there. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Regardless, >> Regardless, >> Regardless, >> unconditionally. >> unconditionally. >> unconditionally. >> Unconditionally. And does not I you >> Unconditionally. And does not I you >> Unconditionally. And does not I you don't have to do something don't have to do something don't have to do something >> to earn it. Yeah. >> to earn it. Yeah. >> to earn it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's amazing. I I have Yeah. You know, it's amazing. I I have Yeah. You know, it's amazing. I I have not been a perfect parent. That's one not been a perfect parent. That's one not been a perfect parent. That's one thing. thing. thing. >> No one is. No one is. >> No one is. No one is. >> No one is. No one is. >> Well, you know, but that's one thing I >> Well, you know, but that's one thing I >> Well, you know, but that's one thing I did well was that I really don't think did well was that I really don't think did well was that I really don't think my children think in any way my love for my children think in any way my love for my children think in any way my love for them is conditional on something they do them is conditional on something they do them is conditional on something they do externally or achieve. I think it's a externally or achieve. I think it's a externally or achieve. I think it's a great lesson. By the way, on the topic great lesson. By the way, on the topic great lesson. By the way, on the topic of thinking, she has another book called of thinking, she has another book called of thinking, she has another book called I've been thinking, which I recommend. I've been thinking, which I recommend. I've been thinking, which I recommend. Okay. So, Okay. So, Okay. So, >> I do my research, Maria. But I >> I do my research, Maria. But I >> I do my research, Maria. But I >> I And what is thinking, everybody? Just >> I And what is thinking, everybody? Just >> I And what is thinking, everybody? Just so before we move off that thinking is so before we move off that thinking is so before we move off that thinking is the process of asking and answering your the process of asking and answering your the process of asking and answering your questions to yourself. And if you don't questions to yourself. And if you don't questions to yourself. And if you don't have that pause, there's no time to ask have that pause, there's no time to ask have that pause, there's no time to ask yourself the questions. There's no time yourself the questions. There's no time yourself the questions. There's no time to reflect. And so this is a really it's to reflect. And so this is a really it's to reflect. And so this is a really it's counterculture right now as she's counterculture right now as she's counterculture right now as she's saying. That's why it's so valuable to saying. That's why it's so valuable to saying. That's why it's so valuable to have you here.