The “Goldilocks Zone” - Build Muscle WITHOUT Bulking or Cutting | Mind Pump 2828

Look, a lot of you need to stop trying Look, a lot of you need to stop trying to bulk and stop trying to cut. It's to bulk and stop trying to cut. It's to bulk and stop trying to cut. It's destroying your experience. It's making destroying your experience. It's making destroying your experience. It's making this impossible. You're not progressing this impossible. You're not progressing this impossible. You're not progressing and you stop because of it. Stop trying and you stop because of it. Stop trying and you stop because of it. Stop trying to bulk and cut. Let's talk about it. to bulk and cut. Let's talk about it. to bulk and cut. Let's talk about it. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, I know. >> Yeah, I know. >> Where is this coming from? Well, so, uh, >> Where is this coming from? Well, so, uh, >> Where is this coming from? Well, so, uh, you know, just through talking through, you know, just through talking through, you know, just through talking through, uh, or or talking to a lot of callers uh, or or talking to a lot of callers uh, or or talking to a lot of callers that call in, and I get the whole bulk that call in, and I get the whole bulk that call in, and I get the whole bulk and cut, and cut, and cut, >> um, process and why we do it. Uh, >> um, process and why we do it. Uh, >> um, process and why we do it. Uh, >> like 90% of our callers Yeah. come in >> like 90% of our callers Yeah. come in >> like 90% of our callers Yeah. come in with that. with that. with that. >> Yeah. So, so for people listening who >> Yeah. So, so for people listening who >> Yeah. So, so for people listening who aren't familiar with those two terms, aren't familiar with those two terms, aren't familiar with those two terms, just real quick, a bulk is the attempt just real quick, a bulk is the attempt just real quick, a bulk is the attempt to uh, eat more than you're burning so to uh, eat more than you're burning so to uh, eat more than you're burning so you can gain muscle. I don't think you can gain muscle. I don't think you can gain muscle. I don't think anybody bulks to gain body fat. And then anybody bulks to gain body fat. And then anybody bulks to gain body fat. And then a cut is the attempt at reducing your a cut is the attempt at reducing your a cut is the attempt at reducing your calories below what you're burning um in calories below what you're burning um in calories below what you're burning um in order to cause fat loss. And so someone order to cause fat loss. And so someone order to cause fat loss. And so someone listening might be like, "Well, that's listening might be like, "Well, that's listening might be like, "Well, that's why I'm working out. I'm trying to why I'm working out. I'm trying to why I'm working out. I'm trying to accomplish uh one or the other or both." accomplish uh one or the other or both." accomplish uh one or the other or both." And the challenge with it is uh this And the challenge with it is uh this And the challenge with it is uh this constant attempt uh at manipulating your constant attempt uh at manipulating your constant attempt uh at manipulating your diet and counting these things for a lot diet and counting these things for a lot diet and counting these things for a lot of people uh makes the experience so uh of people uh makes the experience so uh of people uh makes the experience so uh the for lack of a better term the for lack of a better term the for lack of a better term unenjoyable. Makes it stressful unenjoyable. Makes it stressful unenjoyable. Makes it stressful >> uh to the point where they eventually >> uh to the point where they eventually >> uh to the point where they eventually stop uh because it's uh it's stressful. stop uh because it's uh it's stressful. stop uh because it's uh it's stressful. It sucks. It makes eating It sucks. It makes eating It sucks. It makes eating >> it can be obsessive >> it can be obsessive >> it can be obsessive >> feel either restrictive or or structur >> feel either restrictive or or structur >> feel either restrictive or or structur too structured. Um, and it changes um too structured. Um, and it changes um too structured. Um, and it changes um the entire workout experience uh to be the entire workout experience uh to be the entire workout experience uh to be really only about accomplishing a really only about accomplishing a really only about accomplishing a particular goal. Uh, which I I get that particular goal. Uh, which I I get that particular goal. Uh, which I I get that like people have fitness goals. I get like people have fitness goals. I get like people have fitness goals. I get that. Uh, but uh when I coached and that. Uh, but uh when I coached and that. Uh, but uh when I coached and trained people, everybody had a fitness trained people, everybody had a fitness trained people, everybody had a fitness goal. My goal was always, can I get this goal. My goal was always, can I get this goal. My goal was always, can I get this person to do this for the rest of their person to do this for the rest of their person to do this for the rest of their life? So, regardless of what your goal life? So, regardless of what your goal life? So, regardless of what your goal is, which I'll help you get to, my goal is, which I'll help you get to, my goal is, which I'll help you get to, my goal as a coach is, can I get this person to as a coach is, can I get this person to as a coach is, can I get this person to a place where they enjoy doing this? And a place where they enjoy doing this? And a place where they enjoy doing this? And often times this like structured I got often times this like structured I got often times this like structured I got to do this bulk, I got to eat this much to do this bulk, I got to eat this much to do this bulk, I got to eat this much or I got to eat this little um kind of or I got to eat this little um kind of or I got to eat this little um kind of kills the whole thing and turns it into kills the whole thing and turns it into kills the whole thing and turns it into this experience that really really this experience that really really this experience that really really sucks. So the question is always like sucks. So the question is always like sucks. So the question is always like well what do I do? How do I eat? Like well what do I do? How do I eat? Like well what do I do? How do I eat? Like what's what do I do here? What's what's what do I do here? What's what's what do I do here? What's interesting, and again, I've experienced interesting, and again, I've experienced interesting, and again, I've experienced this with with clients and even myself, this with with clients and even myself, this with with clients and even myself, is if you eat a a particular way, which is if you eat a a particular way, which is if you eat a a particular way, which we'll talk about because I'm sure you we'll talk about because I'm sure you we'll talk about because I'm sure you guys have some some input, but there are guys have some some input, but there are guys have some some input, but there are ways to eat where your body kind of uh ways to eat where your body kind of uh ways to eat where your body kind of uh directs you uh in a way to where you eat directs you uh in a way to where you eat directs you uh in a way to where you eat uh more when your body's trying to uh more when your body's trying to uh more when your body's trying to build. uh if you're a bit overweight in build. uh if you're a bit overweight in build. uh if you're a bit overweight in terms of body fat, your body actually uh terms of body fat, your body actually uh terms of body fat, your body actually uh has you eat an appropriate amount and has you eat an appropriate amount and has you eat an appropriate amount and you start to lose body fat and the you start to lose body fat and the you start to lose body fat and the progress appears to be more of a recmp progress appears to be more of a recmp progress appears to be more of a recmp than it does this dramatic uh cut in than it does this dramatic uh cut in than it does this dramatic uh cut in bulk, you know, type of thing. bulk, you know, type of thing. bulk, you know, type of thing. >> Yeah. I I think I'd like to propose an >> Yeah. I I think I'd like to propose an >> Yeah. I I think I'd like to propose an argument to that. argument to that. argument to that. >> Sure. Um, >> Sure. Um, >> Sure. Um, I actually think that the cutting and I actually think that the cutting and I actually think that the cutting and bulking process bulking process bulking process eases people's mind and simplifies the eases people's mind and simplifies the eases people's mind and simplifies the process of recmping just because when process of recmping just because when process of recmping just because when you when when you try the ideal place I you when when you try the ideal place I you when when you try the ideal place I think to be and I think we're probably think to be and I think we're probably think to be and I think we're probably most of us probably land um is in kind most of us probably land um is in kind most of us probably land um is in kind of like this what we call the or try and of like this what we call the or try and of like this what we call the or try and land in this Goldilock zone where it's land in this Goldilock zone where it's land in this Goldilock zone where it's just a re it's like a recmp. You're not just a re it's like a recmp. You're not just a re it's like a recmp. You're not aggressively bold. I don't think you aggressively bold. I don't think you aggressively bold. I don't think you really aggressive really aggressive really aggressive >> trying to push in one direction. >> trying to push in one direction. >> trying to push in one direction. >> Yeah. I don't think any of us really >> Yeah. I don't think any of us really >> Yeah. I don't think any of us really aggressively bulk or cut. Uh you can aggressively bulk or cut. Uh you can aggressively bulk or cut. Uh you can make that argument back in my competing make that argument back in my competing make that argument back in my competing days. I I did stuff like that. Um but days. I I did stuff like that. Um but days. I I did stuff like that. Um but for the most part, I think you I just for the most part, I think you I just for the most part, I think you I just eat somewhere around maintenance which eat somewhere around maintenance which eat somewhere around maintenance which puts me in this sometimes which is I puts me in this sometimes which is I puts me in this sometimes which is I think an ideal to your argument an ideal think an ideal to your argument an ideal think an ideal to your argument an ideal place for people to be uh both I think place for people to be uh both I think place for people to be uh both I think physically and psychologically. But I physically and psychologically. But I physically and psychologically. But I think the reason why bulking and cutting think the reason why bulking and cutting think the reason why bulking and cutting has been so popular and why we tend to has been so popular and why we tend to has been so popular and why we tend to use it as a tool is because I think use it as a tool is because I think use it as a tool is because I think people have a really hard time people have a really hard time people have a really hard time uh staying in that Goldilock zone where uh staying in that Goldilock zone where uh staying in that Goldilock zone where the scale doesn't really move north or the scale doesn't really move north or the scale doesn't really move north or south when they have a goal of I want to south when they have a goal of I want to south when they have a goal of I want to lose fat or I want to build muscle and lose fat or I want to build muscle and lose fat or I want to build muscle and simplifying it by putting them in a bulk simplifying it by putting them in a bulk simplifying it by putting them in a bulk say the person who wants to build say the person who wants to build say the person who wants to build muscle. So we have them so they say they muscle. So we have them so they say they muscle. So we have them so they say they see some sort of potential see some sort of potential see some sort of potential >> movement in the direction they think >> movement in the direction they think >> movement in the direction they think they're going even though it may not they're going even though it may not they're going even though it may not even be muscle but they see some sort of even be muscle but they see some sort of even be muscle but they see some sort of like I'm trying to bulk, I'm trying to like I'm trying to bulk, I'm trying to like I'm trying to bulk, I'm trying to build. build. build. >> So the fact that I'm up three pounds on >> So the fact that I'm up three pounds on >> So the fact that I'm up three pounds on the scale feels like a positive the scale feels like a positive the scale feels like a positive reinforcement and so I stay the course reinforcement and so I stay the course reinforcement and so I stay the course type of deal. And vice versa, I'm trying type of deal. And vice versa, I'm trying type of deal. And vice versa, I'm trying to lean out, I'm trying to cut, I'm to lean out, I'm trying to cut, I'm to lean out, I'm trying to cut, I'm trying to lose body fat. Uh and so I'm trying to lose body fat. Uh and so I'm trying to lose body fat. Uh and so I'm reducing my calories significantly and I reducing my calories significantly and I reducing my calories significantly and I see the scale goes down a little bit. see the scale goes down a little bit. see the scale goes down a little bit. And so, um, I think that that that And so, um, I think that that that And so, um, I think that that that strategy tends to ease people a little strategy tends to ease people a little strategy tends to ease people a little bit that, okay, I think I'm going the bit that, okay, I think I'm going the bit that, okay, I think I'm going the right direction, but I I see your right direction, but I I see your right direction, but I I see your argument, argument, argument, >> but I think the reason why it it's tough >> but I think the reason why it it's tough >> but I think the reason why it it's tough for the average person is I think the for the average person is I think the for the average person is I think the average person struggles to to be there. average person struggles to to be there. average person struggles to to be there. >> Yeah. I think they lack knowledge on >> Yeah. I think they lack knowledge on >> Yeah. I think they lack knowledge on some level in terms of what they're some level in terms of what they're some level in terms of what they're actually putting in their body. They're actually putting in their body. They're actually putting in their body. They're blissfully sort of they have an blissfully sort of they have an blissfully sort of they have an idealistic uh opinion about how they idealistic uh opinion about how they idealistic uh opinion about how they eat. uh until they actually, you know, eat. uh until they actually, you know, eat. uh until they actually, you know, put that on paper. But I I agree with put that on paper. But I I agree with put that on paper. But I I agree with the initial statement. It's like you the initial statement. It's like you the initial statement. It's like you kind of want to work your way to this kind of want to work your way to this kind of want to work your way to this place where it's like it's basically place where it's like it's basically place where it's like it's basically maintenance or recmp where it's, you maintenance or recmp where it's, you maintenance or recmp where it's, you know, you're you're serving this as more know, you're you're serving this as more know, you're you're serving this as more of a long-term health strategy and goal of a long-term health strategy and goal of a long-term health strategy and goal where I can maintain what I'm doing where I can maintain what I'm doing where I can maintain what I'm doing without being too hyperfocused on without being too hyperfocused on without being too hyperfocused on fluctuating fluctuating fluctuating uh into the extremes. Uh so yeah, I uh into the extremes. Uh so yeah, I uh into the extremes. Uh so yeah, I think that at least initially I think think that at least initially I think think that at least initially I think it's helpful to kind of put parameters it's helpful to kind of put parameters it's helpful to kind of put parameters out there of like okay this this will out there of like okay this this will out there of like okay this this will this is where my maintenance really is. this is where my maintenance really is. this is where my maintenance really is. This is where you know deficits lie like This is where you know deficits lie like This is where you know deficits lie like if I'm going to go you know extreme in if I'm going to go you know extreme in if I'm going to go you know extreme in that or extreme here um you can at least that or extreme here um you can at least that or extreme here um you can at least have a basis for getting a portion of have a basis for getting a portion of have a basis for getting a portion of you know this meal I can just slightly you know this meal I can just slightly you know this meal I can just slightly reduce that meal or I could slightly add reduce that meal or I could slightly add reduce that meal or I could slightly add to this meal. like you need some kind of to this meal. like you need some kind of to this meal. like you need some kind of like homeostasis. like homeostasis. like homeostasis. >> Well, I agree with your statement about >> Well, I agree with your statement about >> Well, I agree with your statement about that the end goal should be what he's that the end goal should be what he's that the end goal should be what he's saying. Like I definitely agree that saying. Like I definitely agree that saying. Like I definitely agree that ultimately that's where I wanted to take ultimately that's where I wanted to take ultimately that's where I wanted to take all my clients. Ultimately I I want to all my clients. Ultimately I I want to all my clients. Ultimately I I want to find this homeostasis of where you're find this homeostasis of where you're find this homeostasis of where you're eating where you're in a satisfied place eating where you're in a satisfied place eating where you're in a satisfied place and you know and and you know and and you know and >> it's not a stress. You're not thinking >> it's not a stress. You're not thinking >> it's not a stress. You're not thinking about about about >> Yeah. It's not a stress. You're not >> Yeah. It's not a stress. You're not >> Yeah. It's not a stress. You're not tracking or pushing really hard to gain tracking or pushing really hard to gain tracking or pushing really hard to gain or cutting really hard to lose. You're or cutting really hard to lose. You're or cutting really hard to lose. You're in this really nice place. in this really nice place. in this really nice place. But my argument is that a a most people But my argument is that a a most people But my argument is that a a most people aren't there. In fact, most people do aren't there. In fact, most people do aren't there. In fact, most people do better with some sort of a focus on a better with some sort of a focus on a better with some sort of a focus on a cut or a bulk until maybe to Justin's cut or a bulk until maybe to Justin's cut or a bulk until maybe to Justin's point that that experience and knowledge point that that experience and knowledge point that that experience and knowledge gets there that it's like, oh, I can I gets there that it's like, oh, I can I gets there that it's like, oh, I can I don't need to move the scale in order to don't need to move the scale in order to don't need to move the scale in order to be successful and I don't need to hyper be successful and I don't need to hyper be successful and I don't need to hyper push or focus in a direction and I can push or focus in a direction and I can push or focus in a direction and I can get incredible health and get incredible health and get incredible health and >> there are there are cases I I do want to >> there are there are cases I I do want to >> there are there are cases I I do want to be clear. There are cases where um a be clear. There are cases where um a be clear. There are cases where um a targeted uh bulk or a targeted cut uh targeted uh bulk or a targeted cut uh targeted uh bulk or a targeted cut uh might be important. Um I'll give you an might be important. Um I'll give you an might be important. Um I'll give you an example. You have somebody who has who's example. You have somebody who has who's example. You have somebody who has who's had eating disorders for had eating disorders for had eating disorders for >> much of their life. Um and their idea of >> much of their life. Um and their idea of >> much of their life. Um and their idea of eating enough is really off. eating enough is really off. eating enough is really off. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It's just really off. When they eat >> It's just really off. When they eat >> It's just really off. When they eat enough, like what's appropriate to them, enough, like what's appropriate to them, enough, like what's appropriate to them, it feels like too much. I'm stuffed. I it feels like too much. I'm stuffed. I it feels like too much. I'm stuffed. I don't feel good. don't feel good. don't feel good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh so with that person, you you kind of >> Uh so with that person, you you kind of >> Uh so with that person, you you kind of have to uh recalibrate them. But for a have to uh recalibrate them. But for a have to uh recalibrate them. But for a lot of people, by the way, this is what lot of people, by the way, this is what lot of people, by the way, this is what my my my >> my training looked like in the back back >> my training looked like in the back back >> my training looked like in the back back half of my career. The first half of my half of my career. The first half of my half of my career. The first half of my career was all cutting and bulking. career was all cutting and bulking. career was all cutting and bulking. >> It was all this stuff. The back half of >> It was all this stuff. The back half of >> It was all this stuff. The back half of my career, ask me how many times I would my career, ask me how many times I would my career, ask me how many times I would take clients and uh have them figure out take clients and uh have them figure out take clients and uh have them figure out what they need to eat and get them to a what they need to eat and get them to a what they need to eat and get them to a cut or bulk. What it looked like at the cut or bulk. What it looked like at the cut or bulk. What it looked like at the end was end was end was um we're going to focus on uh like there um we're going to focus on uh like there um we're going to focus on uh like there were parameters, but it looked like were parameters, but it looked like were parameters, but it looked like this. Like you're going to eat whole this. Like you're going to eat whole this. Like you're going to eat whole foods. foods. foods. >> Feed your activity. Really? >> Feed your activity. Really? >> Feed your activity. Really? >> Yeah. You're going to eat whole foods. >> Yeah. You're going to eat whole foods. >> Yeah. You're going to eat whole foods. That's what you're going to focus on. That's what you're going to focus on. That's what you're going to focus on. Really try and stick to that most of the Really try and stick to that most of the Really try and stick to that most of the time, as much as you possibly can. Make time, as much as you possibly can. Make time, as much as you possibly can. Make your meals protein centric. Don't skip your meals protein centric. Don't skip your meals protein centric. Don't skip meals. When you're hungry, eat. When you meals. When you're hungry, eat. When you meals. When you're hungry, eat. When you feel satisfied, stop. And towards the feel satisfied, stop. And towards the feel satisfied, stop. And towards the back half of my career, this is what my back half of my career, this is what my back half of my career, this is what my nutrition advice look like. Now, there nutrition advice look like. Now, there nutrition advice look like. Now, there was coaching through this because was coaching through this because was coaching through this because although it sounds simple, there's still although it sounds simple, there's still although it sounds simple, there's still challenges, right? If you go from a 70% challenges, right? If you go from a 70% challenges, right? If you go from a 70% of your calories come from processed of your calories come from processed of your calories come from processed food, like most people, to whole food, food, like most people, to whole food, food, like most people, to whole food, there's some coaching that's involved. there's some coaching that's involved. there's some coaching that's involved. um no not skipping meals or eating um no not skipping meals or eating um no not skipping meals or eating appropriate like you know meal prepping appropriate like you know meal prepping appropriate like you know meal prepping like there's some coaching involved but like there's some coaching involved but like there's some coaching involved but there's this there's this presupposition there's this there's this presupposition there's this there's this presupposition there's this assumed there's this assumed there's this assumed uh you know uh status of people there's uh you know uh status of people there's uh you know uh status of people there's this assumed like we assume that our this assumed like we assume that our this assumed like we assume that our appetite signals are not to be trusted appetite signals are not to be trusted appetite signals are not to be trusted >> we assume that if a person just eats >> we assume that if a person just eats >> we assume that if a person just eats when they're hungry they're all going to when they're hungry they're all going to when they're hungry they're all going to end up obese end up obese end up obese true when you feed yourself food that true when you feed yourself food that true when you feed yourself food that has been engineered to make you overeat. has been engineered to make you overeat. has been engineered to make you overeat. >> Then you then if you listen to your uh >> Then you then if you listen to your uh >> Then you then if you listen to your uh systems of satiety or appetite, well systems of satiety or appetite, well systems of satiety or appetite, well yeah, you are going to be obese. yeah, you are going to be obese. yeah, you are going to be obese. >> But when you eat whole natural foods >> But when you eat whole natural foods >> But when you eat whole natural foods again, except for the extremes, again, except for the extremes, again, except for the extremes, um here's what ends up happen. This is um here's what ends up happen. This is um here's what ends up happen. This is what I end up finding towards the end of what I end up finding towards the end of what I end up finding towards the end of my career. When I would have guys when I my career. When I would have guys when I my career. When I would have guys when I would coach guys in this way and they'd would coach guys in this way and they'd would coach guys in this way and they'd kind of start to follow this, they would kind of start to follow this, they would kind of start to follow this, they would eventually fall around 15 16 17% body eventually fall around 15 16 17% body eventually fall around 15 16 17% body fat. That's where they ended up. fat. That's where they ended up. fat. That's where they ended up. Everybody, everybody ended up here. We Everybody, everybody ended up here. We Everybody, everybody ended up here. We weren't trying to cut. We weren't trying weren't trying to cut. We weren't trying weren't trying to cut. We weren't trying to do anything. Just we all kind of fell to do anything. Just we all kind of fell to do anything. Just we all kind of fell in this body fat percentage. Everybody in this body fat percentage. Everybody in this body fat percentage. Everybody got stronger. Everybody built muscle. My got stronger. Everybody built muscle. My got stronger. Everybody built muscle. My female clients, they would fall female clients, they would fall female clients, they would fall somewhere between 21 to 25, maybe 26% somewhere between 21 to 25, maybe 26% somewhere between 21 to 25, maybe 26% body fat. Everybody just kind of fell body fat. Everybody just kind of fell body fat. Everybody just kind of fell pretty healthy range pretty healthy range pretty healthy range >> in these healthy leanish body fat >> in these healthy leanish body fat >> in these healthy leanish body fat percentages without really counting percentages without really counting percentages without really counting anything. Uh really only paying anything. Uh really only paying anything. Uh really only paying attention to I'm eating when I'm hungry. attention to I'm eating when I'm hungry. attention to I'm eating when I'm hungry. I'm eating protein centric and I'm I'm eating protein centric and I'm I'm eating protein centric and I'm sticking to whole natural foods. And sticking to whole natural foods. And sticking to whole natural foods. And what this looked like for someone who what this looked like for someone who what this looked like for someone who was really overweight is they would see was really overweight is they would see was really overweight is they would see fat loss. For somebody who needed to fat loss. For somebody who needed to fat loss. For somebody who needed to build muscle, we'd see a lot of muscle build muscle, we'd see a lot of muscle build muscle, we'd see a lot of muscle gain. For people who were kind of in gain. For people who were kind of in gain. For people who were kind of in this average range, we would see a nice this average range, we would see a nice this average range, we would see a nice trade of fat loss with muscle gain. But trade of fat loss with muscle gain. But trade of fat loss with muscle gain. But it was a stress kind of stress-free it was a stress kind of stress-free it was a stress kind of stress-free approach. And they didn't go through the approach. And they didn't go through the approach. And they didn't go through the challenges that you'll often see with challenges that you'll often see with challenges that you'll often see with like structured cuts and structured like structured cuts and structured like structured cuts and structured bolts. Like I'll give you another bolts. Like I'll give you another bolts. Like I'll give you another example. I was talking to my cousin uh example. I was talking to my cousin uh example. I was talking to my cousin uh recently. My cousin does jiu-jitsu, also recently. My cousin does jiu-jitsu, also recently. My cousin does jiu-jitsu, also lifts weights, uh so he's active. Uh and lifts weights, uh so he's active. Uh and lifts weights, uh so he's active. Uh and he's his body fat came back at 18%. He's he's his body fat came back at 18%. He's he's his body fat came back at 18%. He's like, "Dude, I want to get down to like like, "Dude, I want to get down to like like, "Dude, I want to get down to like 15 16%." So, we just dropped like 3%. 15 16%." So, we just dropped like 3%. 15 16%." So, we just dropped like 3%. Not a big deal. And he goes, "Uh, you Not a big deal. And he goes, "Uh, you Not a big deal. And he goes, "Uh, you know, how do what should I do? How do I know, how do what should I do? How do I know, how do what should I do? How do I go on a cut?" So, well, there's two ways go on a cut?" So, well, there's two ways go on a cut?" So, well, there's two ways we could do this. I said, "A, we could we could do this. I said, "A, we could we could do this. I said, "A, we could track your calories and put you in a track your calories and put you in a track your calories and put you in a deficit. uh and then you'll drop that 3% deficit. uh and then you'll drop that 3% deficit. uh and then you'll drop that 3% body fat and it'll probably take us six body fat and it'll probably take us six body fat and it'll probably take us six weeks, something like that. Or you could weeks, something like that. Or you could weeks, something like that. Or you could do this. And I told him what I'm saying. do this. And I told him what I'm saying. do this. And I told him what I'm saying. I say, "Hey, hit your body weight and I say, "Hey, hit your body weight and I say, "Hey, hit your body weight and protein. Eat it first. Stick to whole protein. Eat it first. Stick to whole protein. Eat it first. Stick to whole natural foods. Eat when you're hungry. natural foods. Eat when you're hungry. natural foods. Eat when you're hungry. And that's it." Now, you'll still drop And that's it." Now, you'll still drop And that's it." Now, you'll still drop body fat. It won't happen as fast. body fat. It won't happen as fast. body fat. It won't happen as fast. However, in the structured cut, here's However, in the structured cut, here's However, in the structured cut, here's what you're going to notice. Here's some what you're going to notice. Here's some what you're going to notice. Here's some of the side effects. Your performance is of the side effects. Your performance is of the side effects. Your performance is going to drop in jiu-jitsu and in your going to drop in jiu-jitsu and in your going to drop in jiu-jitsu and in your workouts because you're in this kind of workouts because you're in this kind of workouts because you're in this kind of bigger deficit. If you do what I'm bigger deficit. If you do what I'm bigger deficit. If you do what I'm saying, I don't think you're going to saying, I don't think you're going to saying, I don't think you're going to notice a drop in performance at all. And notice a drop in performance at all. And notice a drop in performance at all. And it'll take longer. You're not going to it'll take longer. You're not going to it'll take longer. You're not going to drop 3% body fat in six weeks. It might drop 3% body fat in six weeks. It might drop 3% body fat in six weeks. It might take more like 12 weeks or 18 weeks, but take more like 12 weeks or 18 weeks, but take more like 12 weeks or 18 weeks, but the whole time you're going to feel the whole time you're going to feel the whole time you're going to feel good. And it's not going to feel like good. And it's not going to feel like good. And it's not going to feel like this structured thing. And the odds of this structured thing. And the odds of this structured thing. And the odds of rebound are way lower. rebound are way lower. rebound are way lower. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Because you're not coming out of a cut, >> Because you're not coming out of a cut, >> Because you're not coming out of a cut, you know, type of deal. you know, type of deal. you know, type of deal. >> All right, real quick. If you love us >> All right, real quick. If you love us >> All right, real quick. 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Back to the show. show. show. >> You know, there's a there's a there's a >> You know, there's a there's a there's a >> You know, there's a there's a there's a bit of bit of bias that we have that we bit of bit of bias that we have that we bit of bit of bias that we have that we have to factor in when we give advice have to factor in when we give advice have to factor in when we give advice like this. I think that and and it it it like this. I think that and and it it it like this. I think that and and it it it pertains to what Justin was saying about pertains to what Justin was saying about pertains to what Justin was saying about the education piece that I think is so the education piece that I think is so the education piece that I think is so important. I realized that important. I realized that important. I realized that the clients that I got the back half of the clients that I got the back half of the clients that I got the back half of my career um were much easier to deal my career um were much easier to deal my career um were much easier to deal with because they were all referrals. with because they were all referrals. with because they were all referrals. So when you came to me later on it was So when you came to me later on it was So when you came to me later on it was like tell me what to do. You already like tell me what to do. You already like tell me what to do. You already helped my my friend Christine told me helped my my friend Christine told me helped my my friend Christine told me that you're the best at this. And so I that you're the best at this. And so I that you're the best at this. And so I could give advice like that like hey could give advice like that like hey could give advice like that like hey >> or you actually gave better advice >> or you actually gave better advice >> or you actually gave better advice because of your experience. So you because of your experience. So you because of your experience. So you distilled it down to the distilled it down to the distilled it down to the >> both crux both is true. >> both crux both is true. >> both crux both is true. >> Both is true but nonetheless it's biased >> Both is true but nonetheless it's biased >> Both is true but nonetheless it's biased because you get you don't get the because you get you don't get the because you get you don't get the average client. you get a client who's average client. you get a client who's average client. you get a client who's coming to you with I already trust and coming to you with I already trust and coming to you with I already trust and believe everything you're saying where I believe everything you're saying where I believe everything you're saying where I think the average person or average think the average person or average think the average person or average trainer even if you're knowledgeable and trainer even if you're knowledgeable and trainer even if you're knowledgeable and you listen to this podcast and you give you listen to this podcast and you give you listen to this podcast and you give a lot of this advice still has that a lot of this advice still has that a lot of this advice still has that challenge of like they have to educate challenge of like they have to educate challenge of like they have to educate the client still to get them to hop on the client still to get them to hop on the client still to get them to hop on that side. that side. that side. >> I think the argument you're making Adam >> I think the argument you're making Adam >> I think the argument you're making Adam is maybe something like this cuz I can is maybe something like this cuz I can is maybe something like this cuz I can see where you're going. It's like I got see where you're going. It's like I got see where you're going. It's like I got to show someone movement to show someone movement to show someone movement >> right >> right >> right >> on the scale otherwise they're going to >> on the scale otherwise they're going to >> on the scale otherwise they're going to be like this is taking too long. Yeah. be like this is taking too long. Yeah. be like this is taking too long. Yeah. No, I get that. No, I get that. No, I get that. >> And and and and they're and and they're >> And and and and they're and and they're >> And and and and they're and and they're also we know how deceiving the mirror, also we know how deceiving the mirror, also we know how deceiving the mirror, all those things can be. And so you're all those things can be. And so you're all those things can be. And so you're telling them like just trust me, trust telling them like just trust me, trust telling them like just trust me, trust this process. And we want to hover. And this process. And we want to hover. And this process. And we want to hover. And they're like, I don't look good. I don't they're like, I don't look good. I don't they're like, I don't look good. I don't feel like I'm getting any change. And so feel like I'm getting any change. And so feel like I'm getting any change. And so >> they have hardwired expectations, >> they have hardwired expectations, >> they have hardwired expectations, >> right? So it's it's it tends to be a >> right? So it's it's it tends to be a >> right? So it's it's it tends to be a little bit easier to say, "Hey, we're little bit easier to say, "Hey, we're little bit easier to say, "Hey, we're going to go in a bulk. This is what to going to go in a bulk. This is what to going to go in a bulk. This is what to happen. This is what to expect." And happen. This is what to expect." And happen. This is what to expect." And it's like, and so it's easier to prep it's like, and so it's easier to prep it's like, and so it's easier to prep for that. And then to show that you have for that. And then to show that you have for that. And then to show that you have that control and ability to manipulate that control and ability to manipulate that control and ability to manipulate their look, their weight, their their look, their weight, their their look, their weight, their strength, all these things. So that I strength, all these things. So that I strength, all these things. So that I then have the trust to go, okay, this is then have the trust to go, okay, this is then have the trust to go, okay, this is how we this is the place we want to be how we this is the place we want to be how we this is the place we want to be where we you talk about your clients how where we you talk about your clients how where we you talk about your clients how they but I mean we're all biased because they but I mean we're all biased because they but I mean we're all biased because by the time we were at the our, you by the time we were at the our, you by the time we were at the our, you know, whatever level you want to call us know, whatever level you want to call us know, whatever level you want to call us when we were great trainers or good when we were great trainers or good when we were great trainers or good trainers trainers trainers >> that I bet each of us in here uh weren't >> that I bet each of us in here uh weren't >> that I bet each of us in here uh weren't out fishing for brand new people who out fishing for brand new people who out fishing for brand new people who didn't trust us. No, we got clients that didn't trust us. No, we got clients that didn't trust us. No, we got clients that were like bought in to our philosophy. were like bought in to our philosophy. were like bought in to our philosophy. >> You know, you're not wrong, but I'll add >> You know, you're not wrong, but I'll add >> You know, you're not wrong, but I'll add this cuz to what Justin was saying. Uh this cuz to what Justin was saying. Uh this cuz to what Justin was saying. Uh my the way I coached and trained people my the way I coached and trained people my the way I coached and trained people >> was different. I would steer people away >> was different. I would steer people away >> was different. I would steer people away >> from the scale and the mirror. And I >> from the scale and the mirror. And I >> from the scale and the mirror. And I started to point out all the started to point out all the started to point out all the improvements that they normally wouldn't improvements that they normally wouldn't improvements that they normally wouldn't have noticed because they're so have noticed because they're so have noticed because they're so hyperfocused on the scale and the hyperfocused on the scale and the hyperfocused on the scale and the mirror. mirror. mirror. >> Yeah. So my clients when they would come >> Yeah. So my clients when they would come >> Yeah. So my clients when they would come to me and we'd have these conversations to me and we'd have these conversations to me and we'd have these conversations and believe me like any coach or trainer and believe me like any coach or trainer and believe me like any coach or trainer listen listen listen >> into their subconscious more >> into their subconscious more >> into their subconscious more >> they they know this like if you're a >> they they know this like if you're a >> they they know this like if you're a trainer or coach you know this okay or trainer or coach you know this okay or trainer or coach you know this okay or even if you're not and you're you're a even if you're not and you're you're a even if you're not and you're you're a person who hires a trainer person who hires a trainer person who hires a trainer >> they would come to me and they'd say no >> they would come to me and they'd say no >> they would come to me and they'd say no I want to do this I want you to tell me I want to do this I want you to tell me I want to do this I want you to tell me what to do and I want to lose that and what to do and I want to lose that and what to do and I want to lose that and lose that and so or gain this and so it lose that and so or gain this and so it lose that and so or gain this and so it was a conversation but then what I would was a conversation but then what I would was a conversation but then what I would do through my training is I show them do through my training is I show them do through my training is I show them you just did two more reps you're you just did two more reps you're you just did two more reps you're stronger here. Uh, how's your sleep? Oh stronger here. Uh, how's your sleep? Oh stronger here. Uh, how's your sleep? Oh my god, I'm sleeping better. How's your my god, I'm sleeping better. How's your my god, I'm sleeping better. How's your energy? You know, I don't need that energy? You know, I don't need that energy? You know, I don't need that third coffee in the day. Hey, did you third coffee in the day. Hey, did you third coffee in the day. Hey, did you know did you notice your back doesn't know did you notice your back doesn't know did you notice your back doesn't hurt when we do bent over rows? Like we hurt when we do bent over rows? Like we hurt when we do bent over rows? Like we tried uh five weeks ago and we couldn't tried uh five weeks ago and we couldn't tried uh five weeks ago and we couldn't do them. Now we're doing. Do you notice do them. Now we're doing. Do you notice do them. Now we're doing. Do you notice your back doesn't hurt? And so they your back doesn't hurt? And so they your back doesn't hurt? And so they started to see all these other started to see all these other started to see all these other improvements which kept them going. And improvements which kept them going. And improvements which kept them going. And then eventually what would happen is then eventually what would happen is then eventually what would happen is they'd say things like, uh, I'm getting they'd say things like, uh, I'm getting they'd say things like, uh, I'm getting leaner. What's going on? like this is leaner. What's going on? like this is leaner. What's going on? like this is weird. I don't feel like I'm trying weird. I don't feel like I'm trying weird. I don't feel like I'm trying really hard and then I knew I had them really hard and then I knew I had them really hard and then I knew I had them and then I knew like no no no this is and then I knew like no no no this is and then I knew like no no no this is working. working. working. >> But it is a lot of conversations. Yeah. >> But it is a lot of conversations. Yeah. >> But it is a lot of conversations. Yeah. And I totally get it. Like almost nobody And I totally get it. Like almost nobody And I totally get it. Like almost nobody enters into a fitness uh program enters into a fitness uh program enters into a fitness uh program >> saying um what's your goal? I want to do >> saying um what's your goal? I want to do >> saying um what's your goal? I want to do this forever. Nobody says that. this forever. Nobody says that. this forever. Nobody says that. Everybody says I want to specific. I Everybody says I want to specific. I Everybody says I want to specific. I want to build muscle, burn body fat. I want to build muscle, burn body fat. I want to build muscle, burn body fat. I want to change the way this looks or want to change the way this looks or want to change the way this looks or change the way that looks. change the way that looks. change the way that looks. >> But but the real challenge is uh >> But but the real challenge is uh >> But but the real challenge is uh figuring out how to do this forever. And figuring out how to do this forever. And figuring out how to do this forever. And I'm look, I'm going to say this right I'm look, I'm going to say this right I'm look, I'm going to say this right now. Uh our bodies are not broken, now. Uh our bodies are not broken, now. Uh our bodies are not broken, everybody. everybody. everybody. The problem is you're you're feeding The problem is you're you're feeding The problem is you're you're feeding your body a food that was designed to your body a food that was designed to your body a food that was designed to make you overeat. And you live in a make you overeat. And you live in a make you overeat. And you live in a world that's designed to make you not world that's designed to make you not world that's designed to make you not move. It's not your body that's broken. move. It's not your body that's broken. move. It's not your body that's broken. It's this this environment that we're It's this this environment that we're It's this this environment that we're in. If we just change the inputs a in. If we just change the inputs a in. If we just change the inputs a little bit, like you could still eat and little bit, like you could still eat and little bit, like you could still eat and eat until you're satisfied. Just eat eat until you're satisfied. Just eat eat until you're satisfied. Just eat foods that your body knows when to say foods that your body knows when to say foods that your body knows when to say stop. It knows when to say eat more. Cuz stop. It knows when to say eat more. Cuz stop. It knows when to say eat more. Cuz that's what'll happen too. I had many that's what'll happen too. I had many that's what'll happen too. I had many clients through this process that would clients through this process that would clients through this process that would get so scared because we'd start get so scared because we'd start get so scared because we'd start training. They'd listen to me and start training. They'd listen to me and start training. They'd listen to me and start eating whole natural foods, but we're eating whole natural foods, but we're eating whole natural foods, but we're strength training. And what what they strength training. And what what they strength training. And what what they would do is they'd come to me and be would do is they'd come to me and be would do is they'd come to me and be like, "My appetite is through the roof." like, "My appetite is through the roof." like, "My appetite is through the roof." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why am I so hungry, S? I don't want to >> Why am I so hungry, S? I don't want to >> Why am I so hungry, S? I don't want to keep eating this much. And I would tell keep eating this much. And I would tell keep eating this much. And I would tell them, "No, no, eat when you're hungry." them, "No, no, eat when you're hungry." them, "No, no, eat when you're hungry." Because we're building muscle right now. Because we're building muscle right now. Because we're building muscle right now. Your body's actually telling you Your body's actually telling you Your body's actually telling you >> that you need to eat more food. Listen >> that you need to eat more food. Listen >> that you need to eat more food. Listen to it. And it's really interesting. And to it. And it's really interesting. And to it. And it's really interesting. And I do think so many people are ruining I do think so many people are ruining I do think so many people are ruining their experience and the relationship their experience and the relationship their experience and the relationship with fitness because they're so with fitness because they're so with fitness because they're so hyperfocused hyperfocused hyperfocused on macros, cutting, bulking, I got to do on macros, cutting, bulking, I got to do on macros, cutting, bulking, I got to do this, I got to do that thing that it this, I got to do that thing that it this, I got to do that thing that it becomes this really stressful like uh becomes this really stressful like uh becomes this really stressful like uh process to the point when other life process to the point when other life process to the point when other life stresses start to get high, it's just stresses start to get high, it's just stresses start to get high, it's just overwhelming. I don't want to do this overwhelming. I don't want to do this overwhelming. I don't want to do this anymore. I'm done. I'm going to stop. I anymore. I'm done. I'm going to stop. I anymore. I'm done. I'm going to stop. I just want to enjoy my life. just want to enjoy my life. just want to enjoy my life. >> Yeah. It's interesting because it is >> Yeah. It's interesting because it is >> Yeah. It's interesting because it is definitely like an advantage to have a definitely like an advantage to have a definitely like an advantage to have a coach uh identifying those things and coach uh identifying those things and coach uh identifying those things and being able to forecast it and being able to forecast it and being able to forecast it and >> um you know tell you're going to run >> um you know tell you're going to run >> um you know tell you're going to run into this and um you know to to be able into this and um you know to to be able into this and um you know to to be able to kind of calm their own urges to um to kind of calm their own urges to um to kind of calm their own urges to um you know to just fully cut or to fully you know to just fully cut or to fully you know to just fully cut or to fully bulk or you know so I think that you bulk or you know so I think that you bulk or you know so I think that you know it simplifies it. So you can make know it simplifies it. So you can make know it simplifies it. So you can make an argument like the the cut and bulk an argument like the the cut and bulk an argument like the the cut and bulk like initially it's like kind of the the like initially it's like kind of the the like initially it's like kind of the the new trainer that's like the easy way to new trainer that's like the easy way to new trainer that's like the easy way to handle that situation instead of like handle that situation instead of like handle that situation instead of like really identifying really identifying really identifying >> um a lot of those things that are going >> um a lot of those things that are going >> um a lot of those things that are going on in their process of of you know on in their process of of you know on in their process of of you know cutting out the the processed food and cutting out the the processed food and cutting out the the processed food and really sticking with whole natural really sticking with whole natural really sticking with whole natural foods. you have to kind of identify foods. you have to kind of identify foods. you have to kind of identify those things and really um you know have those things and really um you know have those things and really um you know have have them visualize it and and have them visualize it and and have them visualize it and and >> well the the truth is that and and I >> well the the truth is that and and I >> well the the truth is that and and I know for sure that each of you would know for sure that each of you would know for sure that each of you would handle this case by case because there's handle this case by case because there's handle this case by case because there's there's clients that come to you and and there's clients that come to you and and there's clients that come to you and and the first hour they're communicating to the first hour they're communicating to the first hour they're communicating to you their goals, their challenges, their you their goals, their challenges, their you their goals, their challenges, their their previous history with diet and their previous history with diet and their previous history with diet and workout and that workout and that workout and that >> and where you where how you guide >> and where you where how you guide >> and where you where how you guide is completely dependent on that. is completely dependent on that. is completely dependent on that. >> Of course, >> Of course, >> Of course, >> you know, there's there's a there's a >> you know, there's there's a there's a >> you know, there's there's a there's a there's a there's a scenario there's a there's a there's a scenario there's a there's a there's a scenario there's a scenar example for uh someone that you scenar example for uh someone that you scenar example for uh someone that you absolutely put on a cut or absolutely absolutely put on a cut or absolutely absolutely put on a cut or absolutely put on a bulk or absolutely tell them put on a bulk or absolutely tell them put on a bulk or absolutely tell them we're not going to do either of that. we're not going to do either of that. we're not going to do either of that. We're like, We're like, We're like, >> and so the question becomes, you know, >> and so the question becomes, you know, >> and so the question becomes, you know, where do and I think that's where my where do and I think that's where my where do and I think that's where my argument is right now is that I think argument is right now is that I think argument is right now is that I think that most people that most people that most people aren't ready for kind of hovering around aren't ready for kind of hovering around aren't ready for kind of hovering around that that place yet. I think they have that that place yet. I think they have that that place yet. I think they have to go through the education process of to go through the education process of to go through the education process of even knowing what, you know, 150 grams even knowing what, you know, 150 grams even knowing what, you know, 150 grams of protein looks like and knowing what of protein looks like and knowing what of protein looks like and knowing what >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. You still have to do >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. You still have to do >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. You still have to do that. You still got to like what is that. You still got to like what is that. You still got to like what is protein centric? Do I have an egg? protein centric? Do I have an egg? protein centric? Do I have an egg? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No. No. Like like it's probably more >> No. No. Like like it's probably more >> No. No. Like like it's probably more like 30 to 40 g. like 30 to 40 g. like 30 to 40 g. >> And what And what does it look like when >> And what And what does it look like when >> And what And what does it look like when I actually intentionally try and eat in I actually intentionally try and eat in I actually intentionally try and eat in a surplus of calories? And what does a surplus of calories? And what does a surplus of calories? And what does that feel like when I do that? And what that feel like when I do that? And what that feel like when I do that? And what does it feel like when I decide to does it feel like when I decide to does it feel like when I decide to restrict a little bit? Like I mean restrict a little bit? Like I mean restrict a little bit? Like I mean that's the other thing too I've always that's the other thing too I've always that's the other thing too I've always had to communicate is like there's this had to communicate is like there's this had to communicate is like there's this idea of like you know being in a in a in idea of like you know being in a in a in idea of like you know being in a in a in a cut you won't feel hungry like you a cut you won't feel hungry like you a cut you won't feel hungry like you >> of course you're going to feel hungry if >> of course you're going to feel hungry if >> of course you're going to feel hungry if it's a specific if it is a directed it's a specific if it is a directed it's a specific if it is a directed structured cut right structured cut right structured cut right and so there to me there's there's a bit and so there to me there's there's a bit and so there to me there's there's a bit of uh there's a there's a bit of an of uh there's a there's a bit of an of uh there's a there's a bit of an education process that goes through the education process that goes through the education process that goes through the the teaching of cutting and bulking the teaching of cutting and bulking the teaching of cutting and bulking >> totally I think the people that I'm >> totally I think the people that I'm >> totally I think the people that I'm talking to know who I'm talking to right talking to know who I'm talking to right talking to know who I'm talking to right now. I think people listening were like, now. I think people listening were like, now. I think people listening were like, "Oh god." "Oh god." "Oh god." >> And and I know and I know who you're >> And and I know and I know who you're >> And and I know and I know who you're talking to talking to talking to >> like over and over. >> like over and over. >> like over and over. >> Right. Right. There's there's people >> Right. Right. There's there's people >> Right. Right. There's there's people that are beyond that. They understand that are beyond that. They understand that are beyond that. They understand what their macros are. They know what what their macros are. They know what what their macros are. They know what maintenance probably is. maintenance probably is. maintenance probably is. >> It could even be the beginner right now >> It could even be the beginner right now >> It could even be the beginner right now that's overwhelmed with all of it. And that's overwhelmed with all of it. And that's overwhelmed with all of it. And it's like, "What do I Okay, what do I it's like, "What do I Okay, what do I it's like, "What do I Okay, what do I do? How many calories? What do I" And do? How many calories? What do I" And do? How many calories? What do I" And it's like, "Oh, really? Just eat that? it's like, "Oh, really? Just eat that? it's like, "Oh, really? Just eat that? Just eat whole natural foods. Uh eat Just eat whole natural foods. Uh eat Just eat whole natural foods. Uh eat high protein meals. Eat it first. That's high protein meals. Eat it first. That's high protein meals. Eat it first. That's all I got to do. all I got to do. all I got to do. >> Get a big weight off the shoulders." But >> Get a big weight off the shoulders." But >> Get a big weight off the shoulders." But to your point, Adam, I had Look, I I was to your point, Adam, I had Look, I I was to your point, Adam, I had Look, I I was on a coaching call with Will and one of on a coaching call with Will and one of on a coaching call with Will and one of his clients. Now, this woman uh had been his clients. Now, this woman uh had been his clients. Now, this woman uh had been uh impatient uh several times for uh impatient uh several times for uh impatient uh several times for anorexia. Um and she had just gotten anorexia. Um and she had just gotten anorexia. Um and she had just gotten released and she was wanted to hire a released and she was wanted to hire a released and she was wanted to hire a coach and uh so she hired one of our coach and uh so she hired one of our coach and uh so she hired one of our coaches. My advice to her was not listen coaches. My advice to her was not listen coaches. My advice to her was not listen to your appetite signals, right? to your appetite signals, right? to your appetite signals, right? >> Because if she listens to her appetite >> Because if she listens to her appetite >> Because if she listens to her appetite signals, she's not going to eat signals, she's not going to eat signals, she's not going to eat >> because it's off. >> because it's off. >> because it's off. ad >> that you have to relearn what that feels >> that you have to relearn what that feels like. like. like. >> I mean, I guess that's what I where I'm >> I mean, I guess that's what I where I'm >> I mean, I guess that's what I where I'm coming from, too, is I I have that in coming from, too, is I I have that in coming from, too, is I I have that in the back of my mind right now because I the back of my mind right now because I the back of my mind right now because I know that Katrina is booking a call for know that Katrina is booking a call for know that Katrina is booking a call for me to hop on with Karen and one of her me to hop on with Karen and one of her me to hop on with Karen and one of her clients and I know that her client clients and I know that her client clients and I know that her client struggles with struggles with struggles with >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> eating enough. That's right. And I know >> eating enough. That's right. And I know >> eating enough. That's right. And I know that if I tell her to listen to her that if I tell her to listen to her that if I tell her to listen to her body, body, body, >> if I tell her to listen to her body, >> if I tell her to listen to her body, >> if I tell her to listen to her body, she's going to be like, "Oh, I'm stuffed she's going to be like, "Oh, I'm stuffed she's going to be like, "Oh, I'm stuffed all the time." It's just like, yeah, all the time." It's just like, yeah, all the time." It's just like, yeah, your your signal is is off and you need your your signal is is off and you need your your signal is is off and you need to be in a in a bulk and we need to to to be in a in a bulk and we need to to to be in a in a bulk and we need to to understand that there's going to be a understand that there's going to be a understand that there's going to be a bit of this uncomfortable feeling and bit of this uncomfortable feeling and bit of this uncomfortable feeling and we'll you'll So, we'll you'll So, we'll you'll So, >> yeah. And I guess again, back to the >> yeah. And I guess again, back to the >> yeah. And I guess again, back to the point that this is what makes personal point that this is what makes personal point that this is what makes personal training so special and so unique, training so special and so unique, training so special and so unique, right? Is that right? Is that right? Is that >> there there's some general case there's >> there there's some general case there's >> there there's some general case there's some general rules. There's some some some general rules. There's some some some general rules. There's some some principles that, you know, over decades principles that, you know, over decades principles that, you know, over decades of training so many people that we've of training so many people that we've of training so many people that we've really distilled down to some like core really distilled down to some like core really distilled down to some like core values of like eat whole foods, hit your values of like eat whole foods, hit your values of like eat whole foods, hit your protein. That's going to work for like protein. That's going to work for like protein. That's going to work for like 90% of the people for like 90% of the 90% of the people for like 90% of the 90% of the people for like 90% of the way. But way. But way. But >> you always get those wrenches. >> you always get those wrenches. >> you always get those wrenches. >> But Exactly. There's always going that >> But Exactly. There's always going that >> But Exactly. There's always going that it's not a it's not like a blanket it's not a it's not like a blanket it's not a it's not like a blanket statement of like just do that. It's statement of like just do that. It's statement of like just do that. It's like there's going to be these people like there's going to be these people like there's going to be these people that that come to you that oh no, this that that come to you that oh no, this that that come to you that oh no, this is somebody who I need to put in. is somebody who I need to put in. is somebody who I need to put in. >> You should hear my cousin's feedback too >> You should hear my cousin's feedback too >> You should hear my cousin's feedback too because he's doing this right now. So, because he's doing this right now. So, because he's doing this right now. So, he's trying to eat uh 200 gram of he's trying to eat uh 200 gram of he's trying to eat uh 200 gram of protein a day, stick to whole natural protein a day, stick to whole natural protein a day, stick to whole natural foods, and remember his goal is to drop foods, and remember his goal is to drop foods, and remember his goal is to drop about 3% body fat. about 3% body fat. about 3% body fat. >> Yeah. But he's stuffed. >> Yeah. But he's stuffed. >> Yeah. But he's stuffed. >> He's like, he's like, "I can't eat much >> He's like, he's like, "I can't eat much >> He's like, he's like, "I can't eat much protein." Yeah. Yeah. He's stuffed. protein." Yeah. Yeah. He's stuffed. protein." Yeah. Yeah. He's stuffed. >> He's like, "I can't do it." I'm like, >> He's like, "I can't do it." I'm like, >> He's like, "I can't do it." I'm like, "Well, you're going to be in a natural "Well, you're going to be in a natural "Well, you're going to be in a natural cut." What's that's what you wanted. cut." What's that's what you wanted. cut." What's that's what you wanted. >> It limits you. >> It limits you. >> It limits you. >> I said, "Do you feel like you're dieting >> I said, "Do you feel like you're dieting >> I said, "Do you feel like you're dieting right now?" He's like, "No." I said, right now?" He's like, "No." I said, right now?" He's like, "No." I said, "That's exactly "That's exactly "That's exactly >> that's exactly the point." But yeah, I >> that's exactly the point." But yeah, I >> that's exactly the point." But yeah, I think the people who know people who think the people who know people who think the people who know people who should uh hear this know because they're should uh hear this know because they're should uh hear this know because they're hearing this right now and they're hearing this right now and they're hearing this right now and they're going, "Oh yeah, this is overwhelming. going, "Oh yeah, this is overwhelming. going, "Oh yeah, this is overwhelming. This is stressful. I don't want to live This is stressful. I don't want to live This is stressful. I don't want to live like like this anymore." And again, the like like this anymore." And again, the like like this anymore." And again, the premise that uh the average person had premise that uh the average person had premise that uh the average person had the just humans in general had this the just humans in general had this the just humans in general had this appetite that if we let it run wild, appetite that if we let it run wild, appetite that if we let it run wild, we're going to go crazy. That's not true we're going to go crazy. That's not true we're going to go crazy. That's not true with natural food. It's just not. It's with natural food. It's just not. It's with natural food. It's just not. It's only true only true only true >> with food with drug-like effects that >> with food with drug-like effects that >> with food with drug-like effects that have been engineered. have been engineered. have been engineered. >> Yeah. uh to be that way. That's why uh >> Yeah. uh to be that way. That's why uh >> Yeah. uh to be that way. That's why uh we overeat for the most part. we overeat for the most part. we overeat for the most part. >> Well, this is why I was such a fan of uh >> Well, this is why I was such a fan of uh >> Well, this is why I was such a fan of uh Whole 30 when it was created. It was Whole 30 when it was created. It was Whole 30 when it was created. It was such a good uh That's right. such a good uh That's right. such a good uh That's right. >> You know, talk about there's not a lot >> You know, talk about there's not a lot >> You know, talk about there's not a lot of lot of diets or modalities that I of lot of diets or modalities that I of lot of diets or modalities that I think I get way behind and be like, "Oh, think I get way behind and be like, "Oh, think I get way behind and be like, "Oh, that's really like that's really like that's really like >> most people would be very well served to >> most people would be very well served to >> most people would be very well served to spend 30 days of like cuz it's hard. spend 30 days of like cuz it's hard. spend 30 days of like cuz it's hard. Let's be honest. It's very hard. It's Let's be honest. It's very hard. It's Let's be honest. It's very hard. It's hard. Especially for the average hard. Especially for the average hard. Especially for the average American. I mean, American. I mean, American. I mean, >> yeah, you're radically changing how you >> yeah, you're radically changing how you >> yeah, you're radically changing how you eat suddenly." eat suddenly." eat suddenly." >> Yeah. just a lot of people eat out and >> Yeah. just a lot of people eat out and >> Yeah. just a lot of people eat out and eat a lot of processed foods and so it eat a lot of processed foods and so it eat a lot of processed foods and so it does take some serious planning to plan does take some serious planning to plan does take some serious planning to plan a month of I'm only going to eat. a month of I'm only going to eat. a month of I'm only going to eat. >> You know what's another part of that >> You know what's another part of that >> You know what's another part of that too? We actually talked about this. I too? We actually talked about this. I too? We actually talked about this. I don't know if this was with with a don't know if this was with with a don't know if this was with with a caller. I think it was with a caller caller. I think it was with a caller caller. I think it was with a caller recently, but I had this realization recently, but I had this realization recently, but I had this realization that um we've taken meal preparation, that um we've taken meal preparation, that um we've taken meal preparation, which used to be this communal uh it which used to be this communal uh it which used to be this communal uh it used to be a great way to spend time used to be a great way to spend time used to be a great way to spend time with people and it turned into like a with people and it turned into like a with people and it turned into like a job I got to do real quick. And I'm just job I got to do real quick. And I'm just job I got to do real quick. And I'm just going to say this like straight up like going to say this like straight up like going to say this like straight up like husbands and wives, you guys are looking husbands and wives, you guys are looking husbands and wives, you guys are looking for time to spend together while you do for time to spend together while you do for time to spend together while you do something and have time to something and have time to something and have time to >> meal prep together, cook together. >> meal prep together, cook together. >> meal prep together, cook together. >> It's a hack for sure. >> It's a hack for sure. >> It's a hack for sure. >> It's some of my favorite time that I >> It's some of my favorite time that I >> It's some of my favorite time that I ever spend with my wife is when her and ever spend with my wife is when her and ever spend with my wife is when her and I are cooking together. I are cooking together. I are cooking together. >> It's like a great way to to to connect >> It's like a great way to to to connect >> It's like a great way to to to connect and and we're going to do it anyway. Uh and and we're going to do it anyway. Uh and and we're going to do it anyway. Uh but why don't we turn it into this like but why don't we turn it into this like but why don't we turn it into this like By the way, if you have kids, include By the way, if you have kids, include By the way, if you have kids, include your kids. My wife is great at this. your kids. My wife is great at this. your kids. My wife is great at this. She'll send me pictures and I have She'll send me pictures and I have She'll send me pictures and I have little kid. I got a three-year-old and a little kid. I got a three-year-old and a little kid. I got a three-year-old and a 5-year-old. So there's not much they 5-year-old. So there's not much they 5-year-old. So there's not much they could do, but what they can do is like could do, but what they can do is like could do, but what they can do is like peel things. Yeah. peel things. Yeah. peel things. Yeah. >> Throw things in the blender. Throw And >> Throw things in the blender. Throw And >> Throw things in the blender. Throw And so she'll involve them. She'll put them so she'll involve them. She'll put them so she'll involve them. She'll put them at stations and they'll do this. And she at stations and they'll do this. And she at stations and they'll do this. And she turns cooking meals into this wonderful turns cooking meals into this wonderful turns cooking meals into this wonderful experience uh for the family. And I experience uh for the family. And I experience uh for the family. And I think that's such a hack because now think that's such a hack because now think that's such a hack because now you've you've not just you have the you've you've not just you have the you've you've not just you have the value of meal prepping. You don't just value of meal prepping. You don't just value of meal prepping. You don't just have the mal the value of eating uh have the mal the value of eating uh have the mal the value of eating uh whole natural foods that are healthy, whole natural foods that are healthy, whole natural foods that are healthy, but now you've added the value of but now you've added the value of but now you've added the value of connection and this kind of community connection and this kind of community connection and this kind of community effect which just makes it so much now effect which just makes it so much now effect which just makes it so much now it's something I look forward to. You it's something I look forward to. You it's something I look forward to. You know, know, know, >> we're trying to um we're in the process. >> we're trying to um we're in the process. >> we're trying to um we're in the process. We're on day three. I think we're third We're on day three. I think we're third We're on day three. I think we're third day. We're getting there. day. We're getting there. day. We're getting there. >> Um we're teaching Max how to make me >> Um we're teaching Max how to make me >> Um we're teaching Max how to make me coffee in the morning. coffee in the morning. coffee in the morning. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Yeah. Yeah. French press. >> Yeah. Yeah. French press. >> Yeah. Yeah. French press. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I mean, I have >> Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I mean, I have >> Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I mean, I have all the right tools for all the right tools for all the right tools for >> the hot water and everything. >> the hot water and everything. >> the hot water and everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean I want it to be a little risky, right? I want it to be a little risky, right? I want it to be a little risky, right? So I want to tell Yeah. Yeah. It has to So I want to tell Yeah. Yeah. It has to So I want to tell Yeah. Yeah. It has to be a little like that's he's we got this be a little like that's he's we got this be a little like that's he's we got this again his school's so cool. His school again his school's so cool. His school again his school's so cool. His school sends him home with uh this kind of sends him home with uh this kind of sends him home with uh this kind of thing for parents thing for parents thing for parents >> and it's like their age breakdown um >> and it's like their age breakdown um >> and it's like their age breakdown um from you know 1 to three I think 3 to from you know 1 to three I think 3 to from you know 1 to three I think 3 to five 5 to 7 to nine five 5 to 7 to nine five 5 to 7 to nine >> the different things they should be >> the different things they should be >> the different things they should be capable to do in the house. That's capable to do in the house. That's capable to do in the house. That's great. great. great. >> And so it's just a really and Katrina >> And so it's just a really and Katrina >> And so it's just a really and Katrina and I got that just recently like oh wow and I got that just recently like oh wow and I got that just recently like oh wow we're there's some things in here that we're there's some things in here that we're there's some things in here that we're not making them do. not incor. we're not making them do. not incor. we're not making them do. not incor. And so we're we're trying to incorporate And so we're we're trying to incorporate And so we're we're trying to incorporate that. And one of them was like, you that. And one of them was like, you that. And one of them was like, you know, making making breakfast or doing know, making making breakfast or doing know, making making breakfast or doing things like that for himself. And I was things like that for himself. And I was things like that for himself. And I was like, you know what? He's in this like like, you know what? He's in this like like, you know what? He's in this like money earning phase right now, too. So money earning phase right now, too. So money earning phase right now, too. So I'm going to like pay him a dollar for I'm going to like pay him a dollar for I'm going to like pay him a dollar for every time he makes coffee, every time he makes coffee, every time he makes coffee, >> of course. >> of course. >> of course. >> And so yeah, so I'm trying to teach him >> And so yeah, so I'm trying to teach him >> And so yeah, so I'm trying to teach him how to how to make coffee right now. But how to how to make coffee right now. But how to how to make coffee right now. But he's already connected that cleaning the he's already connected that cleaning the he's already connected that cleaning the toilets is $10 and clean doing coffee is toilets is $10 and clean doing coffee is toilets is $10 and clean doing coffee is a dollar. And so he's like trying to get a dollar. And so he's like trying to get a dollar. And so he's like trying to get me to pay more for the me to pay more for the me to pay more for the >> Tell them they're both connected. You >> Tell them they're both connected. You >> Tell them they're both connected. You make dad coffee, you'll get to clean. make dad coffee, you'll get to clean. make dad coffee, you'll get to clean. >> He's trying to get me to pay more for >> He's trying to get me to pay more for >> He's trying to get me to pay more for coffee. Like, I'm not paying you. coffee. Like, I'm not paying you. coffee. Like, I'm not paying you. Starbucks is already overpriced at $3. Starbucks is already overpriced at $3. Starbucks is already overpriced at $3. I'm definitely not paying you $10 for a I'm definitely not paying you $10 for a I'm definitely not paying you $10 for a cup of coffee. They're going backwards. cup of coffee. They're going backwards. cup of coffee. They're going backwards. So, but dude, that's So, but dude, that's So, but dude, that's >> Yeah. Yeah. It's funny watching watching >> Yeah. Yeah. It's funny watching watching >> Yeah. Yeah. It's funny watching watching them try and do it right now. So, we'll them try and do it right now. So, we'll them try and do it right now. So, we'll see. Uh we'll see if it backfires on me see. Uh we'll see if it backfires on me see. Uh we'll see if it backfires on me or if it works out, but that's that's my or if it works out, but that's that's my or if it works out, but that's that's my goal. goal. goal. >> I want to ask you guys, Adam, you're the >> I want to ask you guys, Adam, you're the >> I want to ask you guys, Adam, you're the one you've been using the Troscriptions one you've been using the Troscriptions one you've been using the Troscriptions Calm and Sleep for. Calm and Sleep for. Calm and Sleep for. >> I'm I'm a believer, dude. They nailed >> I'm I'm a believer, dude. They nailed >> I'm I'm a believer, dude. They nailed whatever their formulations are. Can you whatever their formulations are. Can you whatever their formulations are. Can you Okay, Okay, Okay, >> that's the most like like I could feel >> that's the most like like I could feel >> that's the most like like I could feel it. it. it. >> What am I feel? Okay, I want to know >> What am I feel? Okay, I want to know >> What am I feel? Okay, I want to know what I'm feeling. I can feel the calm what I'm feeling. I can feel the calm what I'm feeling. I can feel the calm which is uh impressive. I sleep there which is uh impressive. I sleep there which is uh impressive. I sleep there obviously sleep things like melatonin obviously sleep things like melatonin obviously sleep things like melatonin and stuff like that. Really most and stuff like that. Really most and stuff like that. Really most >> there's a form of GABA is that it is >> there's a form of GABA is that it is >> there's a form of GABA is that it is >> in the calm that crosses the blood brain >> in the calm that crosses the blood brain >> in the calm that crosses the blood brain barrier. barrier. barrier. >> So traditional GABA which is a >> So traditional GABA which is a >> So traditional GABA which is a neuroinhibitory neuroinhibitory neuroinhibitory uh compound. So it basically calms the uh compound. So it basically calms the uh compound. So it basically calms the brain. If you take traditional GABA and brain. If you take traditional GABA and brain. If you take traditional GABA and you feel it, uh Scott actually made a you feel it, uh Scott actually made a you feel it, uh Scott actually made a point of this. He said it's because you point of this. He said it's because you point of this. He said it's because you have a leaky gut. have a leaky gut. have a leaky gut. >> Okay? >> Okay? >> Okay? >> It's not supposed to, you're not >> It's not supposed to, you're not >> It's not supposed to, you're not supposed to feel it. It's too big of a supposed to feel it. It's too big of a supposed to feel it. It's too big of a molecule. But they have a form of GABA molecule. But they have a form of GABA molecule. But they have a form of GABA in there that crosses the blood brain in there that crosses the blood brain in there that crosses the blood brain barrier. So when you take it, you feel barrier. So when you take it, you feel barrier. So when you take it, you feel >> Okay. So explain this to me because I've >> Okay. So explain this to me because I've >> Okay. So explain this to me because I've always been a fan of Ned's product, always been a fan of Ned's product, always been a fan of Ned's product, right? And but I feel this more right? And but I feel this more right? And but I feel this more >> than I feel that. Why? >> than I feel that. Why? >> than I feel that. Why? >> You have a magnesium. You you probably >> You have a magnesium. You you probably >> You have a magnesium. You you probably need magnesium. Okay. Okay, need magnesium. Okay. Okay, need magnesium. Okay. Okay, >> but this is not filling nutrient >> but this is not filling nutrient >> but this is not filling nutrient deficiencies. These are compounds that deficiencies. These are compounds that deficiencies. These are compounds that actually have like physiological actually have like physiological actually have like physiological effects. So it's not just filling a effects. So it's not just filling a effects. So it's not just filling a nutrient deficiency. It's like this has nutrient deficiency. It's like this has nutrient deficiency. It's like this has an effect. an effect. an effect. >> The other they So Ned didn't have GABA >> The other they So Ned didn't have GABA >> The other they So Ned didn't have GABA then. then. then. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Oh, that's why. Oh, so that So it's the >> Oh, that's why. Oh, so that So it's the >> Oh, that's why. Oh, so that So it's the GABA that I'm probably cuz I couldn't GABA that I'm probably cuz I couldn't GABA that I'm probably cuz I couldn't wrap my brain around why wrap my brain around why wrap my brain around why >> there's a Garin in there and then this >> there's a Garin in there and then this >> there's a Garin in there and then this sleep one, I believe, has the GABA, sleep one, I believe, has the GABA, sleep one, I believe, has the GABA, Doug, if I'm not mistaken. Pull that one Doug, if I'm not mistaken. Pull that one Doug, if I'm not mistaken. Pull that one up. So there's compounds. up. So there's compounds. up. So there's compounds. >> He was on the Oh, he's >> He was on the Oh, he's >> He was on the Oh, he's >> No, I was on the calm. >> No, I was on the calm. >> No, I was on the calm. >> You on the calm? Oh, I was on the No, >> You on the calm? Oh, I was on the No, >> You on the calm? Oh, I was on the No, no, no. Go on. Tro plus calm. That's the no, no. Go on. Tro plus calm. That's the no, no. Go on. Tro plus calm. That's the one I was on. Yes. one I was on. Yes. one I was on. Yes. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Uh let me go find the sleep here. >> Uh let me go find the sleep here. >> Uh let me go find the sleep here. >> No. And then there's the duo right >> No. And then there's the duo right >> No. And then there's the duo right there. That's it. No. Gaba Gaba mic duo. there. That's it. No. Gaba Gaba mic duo. there. That's it. No. Gaba Gaba mic duo. >> That's the one. Yeah. See, that's the >> That's the one. Yeah. See, that's the >> That's the one. Yeah. See, that's the combo right there. combo right there. combo right there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You put those together. And >> Yeah. You put those together. And >> Yeah. You put those together. And >> so I take I take the calm about an hour >> so I take I take the calm about an hour >> so I take I take the calm about an hour first. So I first. So I first. So I >> And then right before bed >> And then right before bed >> And then right before bed >> And then right before bed, I take the >> And then right before bed, I take the >> And then right before bed, I take the other one. other one. other one. >> And then Justin, have you been doing the >> And then Justin, have you been doing the >> And then Justin, have you been doing the the methyline blue? the methyline blue? the methyline blue? >> Yeah. Yeah, I have consistently. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, I have consistently. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, I have consistently. Yeah. It's helped a lot with my energy. Uh, It's helped a lot with my energy. Uh, It's helped a lot with my energy. Uh, usually when I drive home, it like I usually when I drive home, it like I usually when I drive home, it like I seriously have been having this issue seriously have been having this issue seriously have been having this issue where I'm like I bonk so hard to where where I'm like I bonk so hard to where where I'm like I bonk so hard to where I'm like I'm like dozing off and I'm I'm like I'm like dozing off and I'm I'm like I'm like dozing off and I'm driving I'm waking myself up. I'm driving I'm waking myself up. I'm driving I'm waking myself up. I'm playing a lot of music. playing a lot of music. playing a lot of music. >> Um, but yeah, there's just moments a lot >> Um, but yeah, there's just moments a lot >> Um, but yeah, there's just moments a lot more times during the day where I've more times during the day where I've more times during the day where I've just like crashed that it's just it's just like crashed that it's just it's just like crashed that it's just it's been consistently good now. been consistently good now. been consistently good now. >> So, he recommended to me that I take the >> So, he recommended to me that I take the >> So, he recommended to me that I take the the methylin blue early and as part of the methylin blue early and as part of the methylin blue early and as part of my sleep routine. What is it about that my sleep routine. What is it about that my sleep routine. What is it about that that obviously because that's the only that obviously because that's the only that obviously because that's the only one one one >> mitochondrial efficiency um and uh so >> mitochondrial efficiency um and uh so >> mitochondrial efficiency um and uh so it's supposed to help with um just it's supposed to help with um just it's supposed to help with um just better mitochondrial health but if you better mitochondrial health but if you better mitochondrial health but if you take it too late it's a bit energizing take it too late it's a bit energizing take it too late it's a bit energizing so if you take it at night then it might so if you take it at night then it might so if you take it at night then it might interfere with sleep interfere with sleep interfere with sleep >> okay yeah >> okay yeah >> okay yeah >> cuz that's the one I I've been really >> cuz that's the one I I've been really >> cuz that's the one I I've been really good with the common sleep consistent I good with the common sleep consistent I good with the common sleep consistent I haven't been as consistent with the the haven't been as consistent with the the haven't been as consistent with the the methyl methyl methyl >> and then there's cortisepin in there >> and then there's cortisepin in there >> and then there's cortisepin in there which is an interesting compound from which is an interesting compound from which is an interesting compound from cortiseps which has got an effect uh on cortiseps which has got an effect uh on cortiseps which has got an effect uh on increasing rim sleep increasing rim sleep increasing rim sleep >> oh this is part of this is part of >> oh this is part of this is part of >> oh this is part of this is part of listening to sleep. listening to sleep. listening to sleep. >> Cortisepin the CB add that next. >> Cortisepin the CB add that next. >> Cortisepin the CB add that next. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> And it has five five milligrams of >> And it has five five milligrams of >> And it has five five milligrams of melatonin melatonin melatonin >> when you uh um the blue pea is funny >> when you uh um the blue pea is funny >> when you uh um the blue pea is funny though. though. though. >> Yeah, I got used to it, man. It's so >> Yeah, I got used to it, man. It's so >> Yeah, I got used to it, man. It's so funny cuz um I mean I have a weird funny cuz um I mean I have a weird funny cuz um I mean I have a weird story. I don't feel like story. I don't feel like story. I don't feel like >> I'll go outside and like pee on the >> I'll go outside and like pee on the >> I'll go outside and like pee on the tree, you know, and I forgot that I was tree, you know, and I forgot that I was tree, you know, and I forgot that I was like, you know, taking methylin blue a like, you know, taking methylin blue a like, you know, taking methylin blue a lot. My son saw lot. My son saw lot. My son saw >> Oh, no. What did he say? >> Oh, no. What did he say? >> Oh, no. What did he say? >> He was like, what? He was all confused, >> He was like, what? He was all confused, >> He was like, what? He was all confused, dude. Why is your pee blue though? dude. Why is your pee blue though? dude. Why is your pee blue though? >> He's too young to scare. He could have >> He's too young to scare. He could have >> He's too young to scare. He could have made up a total bad. made up a total bad. made up a total bad. >> No. What does that mean, son? >> No. What does that mean, son? >> No. What does that mean, son? >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I could have made >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I could have made >> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I could have made up a story or something. up a story or something. up a story or something. >> You should probably be a really good >> You should probably be a really good >> You should probably be a really good boy. I don't know if I'm going to be boy. I don't know if I'm going to be boy. I don't know if I'm going to be around. around. around. >> I just was It threw me off cuz I was >> I just was It threw me off cuz I was >> I just was It threw me off cuz I was like, "What?" It just became normal now. like, "What?" It just became normal now. like, "What?" It just became normal now. That's blue. That's blue. That's blue. >> That's so funny, dude. I got uh oh, >> That's so funny, dude. I got uh oh, >> That's so funny, dude. I got uh oh, speaking of supplements, did you guys speaking of supplements, did you guys speaking of supplements, did you guys see the post that I'm going to pull it see the post that I'm going to pull it see the post that I'm going to pull it up uh that uh Mike Matthews did on the up uh that uh Mike Matthews did on the up uh that uh Mike Matthews did on the study that they did on supplements? study that they did on supplements? study that they did on supplements? Oh, dude, watch this. I'm going to pull Oh, dude, watch this. I'm going to pull Oh, dude, watch this. I'm going to pull this up. So, there was a 2025 study that this up. So, there was a 2025 study that this up. So, there was a 2025 study that tested 200 popular sports supplements tested 200 popular sports supplements tested 200 popular sports supplements >> and they tested them for banned >> and they tested them for banned >> and they tested them for banned substances. substances. substances. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Banned substances. >> Banned substances. >> Banned substances. >> Banned. So, Okay. So this is like >> Banned. So, Okay. So this is like >> Banned. So, Okay. So this is like anabolics and anabolics and anabolics and >> 200 supplements. Onethird of them >> 200 supplements. Onethird of them >> 200 supplements. Onethird of them contained banned drugs. contained banned drugs. contained banned drugs. >> One third >> One third >> One third >> third of them. >> third of them. >> third of them. >> What was in the category of these sports >> What was in the category of these sports >> What was in the category of these sports supplements? supplements? supplements? >> What f >> What f >> What f >> uh like like athletic performance, >> uh like like athletic performance, >> uh like like athletic performance, strength, uh um you know, muscle strength, uh um you know, muscle strength, uh um you know, muscle building, neutropic, pre-workout, building, neutropic, pre-workout, building, neutropic, pre-workout, whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Who was it? Jon Jones or I remember some >> Who was it? Jon Jones or I remember some >> Who was it? Jon Jones or I remember some fighters making this claim a long time fighters making this claim a long time fighters making this claim a long time ago and I'm like, is that true? You ago and I'm like, is that true? You ago and I'm like, is that true? You know, cuz they were saying it was like know, cuz they were saying it was like know, cuz they were saying it was like spiked, spiked, spiked, >> bro. They found, here's what they found. >> bro. They found, here's what they found. >> bro. They found, here's what they found. Okay, now this is a lot, bro. That's Okay, now this is a lot, bro. That's Okay, now this is a lot, bro. That's one/ird. Okay, that's a lot. That's a one/ird. Okay, that's a lot. That's a one/ird. Okay, that's a lot. That's a big old chunk. No wonder the the FDA is big old chunk. No wonder the the FDA is big old chunk. No wonder the the FDA is trying to regulate supplements. These trying to regulate supplements. These trying to regulate supplements. These supplement companies are so stupid. supplement companies are so stupid. supplement companies are so stupid. They're going to bring it on themselves. They're going to bring it on themselves. They're going to bring it on themselves. Uh here's what they found in some of Uh here's what they found in some of Uh here's what they found in some of them. One of them, they found a SARM. them. One of them, they found a SARM. them. One of them, they found a SARM. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Which >> Which >> Which >> like that's not even a that's not even >> like that's not even a that's not even >> like that's not even a that's not even an approved drug. Yeah. an approved drug. Yeah. an approved drug. Yeah. >> Okay. A SARM. There were band stu uh >> Okay. A SARM. There were band stu uh >> Okay. A SARM. There were band stu uh stimulants. There were empetamine like stimulants. There were empetamine like stimulants. There were empetamine like drugs, ADHD medications, and cardiac drugs, ADHD medications, and cardiac drugs, ADHD medications, and cardiac drugs. Wow. How? drugs. Wow. How? drugs. Wow. How? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That's just >> That's just >> That's just that just goes to show you no idea. Just that just goes to show you no idea. Just that just goes to show you no idea. Just >> Well, you know what? This creatine >> Well, you know what? This creatine >> Well, you know what? This creatine supplement's working. supplement's working. supplement's working. >> Well, I mean, that just goes to show you >> Well, I mean, that just goes to show you >> Well, I mean, that just goes to show you they know the power of just a supplement they know the power of just a supplement they know the power of just a supplement that people feel. that people feel. that people feel. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Right. If you >> Right. If you >> Right. If you >> They want you to feel something. >> They want you to feel something. >> They want you to feel something. >> So, you feel something from it, you >> So, you feel something from it, you >> So, you feel something from it, you know? know? know? >> Have you guys seen the study? I don't >> Have you guys seen the study? I don't >> Have you guys seen the study? I don't know if I ever showed you guys this know if I ever showed you guys this know if I ever showed you guys this where they the you know what I don't where they the you know what I don't where they the you know what I don't know what you call them, the boner pills know what you call them, the boner pills know what you call them, the boner pills category, right? Like sex supplements or category, right? Like sex supplements or category, right? Like sex supplements or whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> They did a whole bunch of them. They >> They did a whole bunch of them. They >> They did a whole bunch of them. They tested a whole bunch of them. tested a whole bunch of them. tested a whole bunch of them. >> Yeah. And a like a significant >> Yeah. And a like a significant >> Yeah. And a like a significant percentage of them had uh Viagra. percentage of them had uh Viagra. percentage of them had uh Viagra. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Of course. >> Yeah. Of course. >> Yeah. Of course. >> Like Viagra. I actually put the drug in >> Like Viagra. I actually put the drug in >> Like Viagra. I actually put the drug in there. This works. there. This works. there. This works. >> I mean, that's what they used to do with >> I mean, that's what they used to do with >> I mean, that's what they used to do with the old fake steroid stuff, right? They the old fake steroid stuff, right? They the old fake steroid stuff, right? They used to put like real like testosterone used to put like real like testosterone used to put like real like testosterone and real stuff inside it to make people and real stuff inside it to make people and real stuff inside it to make people They used to do things that would They used to do things that would They used to do things that would >> Well, they didn't have to back in the >> Well, they didn't have to back in the >> Well, they didn't have to back in the day. They were legal. day. They were legal. day. They were legal. >> Did you guys know, by the way, did you >> Did you guys know, by the way, did you >> Did you guys know, by the way, did you guys ever take Super Draw in the early guys ever take Super Draw in the early guys ever take Super Draw in the early 2000s? Do you guys remember that one? 2000s? Do you guys remember that one? 2000s? Do you guys remember that one? >> I don't know if I took Super Draw. >> I don't know if I took Super Draw. >> I don't know if I took Super Draw. >> Which one did you take? I took the one >> Which one did you take? I took the one >> Which one did you take? I took the one that um what was the one that um the one that um what was the one that um the one that um what was the one that um the one I did take was the one that Mark Maguire I did take was the one that Mark Maguire I did take was the one that Mark Maguire got in trouble for. got in trouble for. got in trouble for. >> Oh, and that's >> Oh, and that's >> Oh, and that's nothing. nothing. nothing. >> Actually, I tried that and I did and I >> Actually, I tried that and I did and I >> Actually, I tried that and I did and I did the the I did the trend one that did the the I did the trend one that did the the I did the trend one that ended up getting knocked off the counter ended up getting knocked off the counter ended up getting knocked off the counter also. So, I've done I did a few of the also. So, I've done I did a few of the also. So, I've done I did a few of the designers. designers. designers. >> I remember in the early 2000s, okay, uh >> I remember in the early 2000s, okay, uh >> I remember in the early 2000s, okay, uh Super Draw, what do they call it? Um uh Super Draw, what do they call it? Um uh Super Draw, what do they call it? Um uh pro hormone hormone. pro hormone hormone. pro hormone hormone. >> It's not a hormone, it's a pro hormone. >> It's not a hormone, it's a pro hormone. >> It's not a hormone, it's a pro hormone. It's before hormones. It turns into a It's before hormones. It turns into a It's before hormones. It turns into a hormone. So, they kind of like sold it hormone. So, they kind of like sold it hormone. So, they kind of like sold it that way. It was called Super Draw. And that way. It was called Super Draw. And that way. It was called Super Draw. And I'll never forget I took it and I was I'll never forget I took it and I was I'll never forget I took it and I was like, "Wow." Like I I got like no joke, like, "Wow." Like I I got like no joke, like, "Wow." Like I I got like no joke, I probably added 30 lbs to my bench I probably added 30 lbs to my bench I probably added 30 lbs to my bench press in like two weeks. press in like two weeks. press in like two weeks. >> Well, that's all right. >> Well, that's all right. >> Well, that's all right. >> Do you know what super Do you know what >> Do you know what super Do you know what >> Do you know what super Do you know what you know who uses SuperDrol now? you know who uses SuperDrol now? you know who uses SuperDrol now? >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Powerlifters and bodybuilders. They say >> Powerlifters and bodybuilders. They say >> Powerlifters and bodybuilders. They say it's stronger than Anadrol, which is one it's stronger than Anadrol, which is one it's stronger than Anadrol, which is one of those classic steroids that of those classic steroids that of those classic steroids that >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah, dude. It's a It's a real steroid. >> Yeah, dude. It's a It's a real steroid. >> Yeah, dude. It's a It's a real steroid. >> I remember that. >> I remember that. >> I remember that. >> It's a designer steroid >> It's a designer steroid >> It's a designer steroid >> that that I forgot the brand of that >> that that I forgot the brand of that >> that that I forgot the brand of that that trend. the trend over the counter that trend. the trend over the counter that trend. the trend over the counter was, but I remember it was so strong was, but I remember it was so strong was, but I remember it was so strong that I took two bottles back to back and that I took two bottles back to back and that I took two bottles back to back and I had side effects. I had side effects. I had side effects. I I started to get gynecomastia from it I I started to get gynecomastia from it I I started to get gynecomastia from it and sucks from a supplement. and sucks from a supplement. and sucks from a supplement. >> Yes. From a from a supplement. I was >> Yes. From a from a supplement. I was >> Yes. From a from a supplement. I was like, "This is crazy." So, you know, I like, "This is crazy." So, you know, I like, "This is crazy." So, you know, I had something, had something, had something, >> bro. Super Draw is now a black market >> bro. Super Draw is now a black market >> bro. Super Draw is now a black market steroid. Dude, I bought that at the steroid. Dude, I bought that at the steroid. Dude, I bought that at the store. store. store. >> At the supplement store, dude. I'm like, >> At the supplement store, dude. I'm like, >> At the supplement store, dude. I'm like, "This is my favorite supplement." Well, "This is my favorite supplement." Well, "This is my favorite supplement." Well, yeah, bro. You're taking steroids, dude. yeah, bro. You're taking steroids, dude. yeah, bro. You're taking steroids, dude. >> That's crazy. That's the supplement >> That's crazy. That's the supplement >> That's crazy. That's the supplement industry for you, ladies and gentlemen. industry for you, ladies and gentlemen. industry for you, ladies and gentlemen. You got to be very, very careful. Got to You got to be very, very careful. Got to You got to be very, very careful. Got to do your own research. do your own research. do your own research. >> Okay, here's some good news on >> Okay, here's some good news on >> Okay, here's some good news on supplements. Uh, and Doug's been using supplements. Uh, and Doug's been using supplements. Uh, and Doug's been using the supplement for a while. Nattokenise. the supplement for a while. Nattokenise. the supplement for a while. Nattokenise. Am I saying that right, Doug? Am I saying that right, Doug? Am I saying that right, Doug? >> Nattokynise. >> Nattokynise. >> Nattokynise. >> You got to say it in a Japanese way, >> You got to say it in a Japanese way, >> You got to say it in a Japanese way, don't you? don't you? don't you? >> Yeah. With a natto part any >> Yeah. With a natto part any >> Yeah. With a natto part any Where did you get this? Where did you get this? Where did you get this? >> Well, I've heard about it for a long >> Well, I've heard about it for a long >> Well, I've heard about it for a long time. Uh, time. Uh, time. Uh, >> he's so undercover by everyone. >> he's so undercover by everyone. >> he's so undercover by everyone. >> No, I I share these things. I'm not >> No, I I share these things. I'm not >> No, I I share these things. I'm not secretive. Come on. Bro, he's so, you secretive. Come on. Bro, he's so, you secretive. Come on. Bro, he's so, you know, it's just hard to get a word in know, it's just hard to get a word in know, it's just hard to get a word in edgewise. edgewise. edgewise. >> That's you always like get out of here >> That's you always like get out of here >> That's you always like get out of here with that [ __ ] We've been together with that [ __ ] We've been together with that [ __ ] We've been together for over 10 years. for over 10 years. for over 10 years. >> I can't get a word in edgewise. Forgot >> I can't get a word in edgewise. Forgot >> I can't get a word in edgewise. Forgot to tell you guys about that tax break to tell you guys about that tax break to tell you guys about that tax break you guys could have had. you guys could have had. you guys could have had. >> Ah, come on. >> Ah, come on. >> Ah, come on. >> We met we met the girl he's dating like >> We met we met the girl he's dating like >> We met we met the girl he's dating like 3 years after they were dating. 3 years after they were dating. 3 years after they were dating. >> Hey, I am a little secretive. What can I >> Hey, I am a little secretive. What can I >> Hey, I am a little secretive. What can I say? say? say? >> He's like, what are you talking about? >> He's like, what are you talking about? >> He's like, what are you talking about? So anyway, I'd heard first heard about So anyway, I'd heard first heard about So anyway, I'd heard first heard about nattokinise because of, you know, like nattokinise because of, you know, like nattokinise because of, you know, like supporting uh spiked protein supporting uh spiked protein supporting uh spiked protein removal. Yeah. removal. Yeah. removal. Yeah. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> so this was a big study, Doug. This is >> so this was a big study, Doug. This is >> so this was a big study, Doug. This is crazy. They took a thousand over a crazy. They took a thousand over a crazy. They took a thousand over a thousand people thousand people thousand people >> shot spiked. >> shot spiked. >> shot spiked. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> In COVID. Yeah. Spike protein. >> In COVID. Yeah. Spike protein. >> In COVID. Yeah. Spike protein. >> So it's part of that protocol that one >> So it's part of that protocol that one >> So it's part of that protocol that one doctor said that you could use to get doctor said that you could use to get doctor said that you could use to get rid of spike proteins. Yes. But that's rid of spike proteins. Yes. But that's rid of spike proteins. Yes. But that's not what the study shows. So this is on not what the study shows. So this is on not what the study shows. So this is on arterial plaque and heart health. They arterial plaque and heart health. They arterial plaque and heart health. They had over a thousand people take uh natto had over a thousand people take uh natto had over a thousand people take uh natto canace for a year. I hope I said that canace for a year. I hope I said that canace for a year. I hope I said that right. I like this is what they this right. I like this is what they this right. I like this is what they this dude this is wild. Every person had an dude this is wild. Every person had an dude this is wild. Every person had an ultrasound at the start and another at ultrasound at the start and another at ultrasound at the start and another at 12 months. The people who were taking 12 months. The people who were taking 12 months. The people who were taking 10,800 10,800 10,800 >> I don't know what fu stands for per day. >> I don't know what fu stands for per day. >> I don't know what fu stands for per day. It's not what you think Justin. It's not what you think Justin. It's not what you think Justin. >> Uh it's a it's a it's a measurement. Uh >> Uh it's a it's a it's a measurement. Uh >> Uh it's a it's a it's a measurement. Uh Doug, look that up for me. I'm I'm Doug, look that up for me. I'm I'm Doug, look that up for me. I'm I'm surpris I'm embarrassed. I don't know surpris I'm embarrassed. I don't know surpris I'm embarrassed. I don't know what that is. Here's what they found. At what that is. Here's what they found. At what that is. Here's what they found. At that dose, corateed artery plaque shrank that dose, corateed artery plaque shrank that dose, corateed artery plaque shrank up to 36%. up to 36%. up to 36%. Wow. 36%. Arterial wall thickness Wow. 36%. Arterial wall thickness Wow. 36%. Arterial wall thickness decreased by 21% on average. decreased by 21% on average. decreased by 21% on average. >> Those are big numbers. >> Those are big numbers. >> Those are big numbers. >> 77% of the people showed measurable >> 77% of the people showed measurable >> 77% of the people showed measurable improvements in arterial wall thickness. improvements in arterial wall thickness. improvements in arterial wall thickness. 66% showed measurable reduction in 66% showed measurable reduction in 66% showed measurable reduction in plaque size. Improvement rates across plaque size. Improvement rates across plaque size. Improvement rates across all markers range from 66 to 95% for the all markers range from 66 to 95% for the all markers range from 66 to 95% for the majority of all thousand. majority of all thousand. majority of all thousand. >> What rivals that sound? >> What rivals that sound? >> What rivals that sound? >> They saw total cholesterol went down, >> They saw total cholesterol went down, >> They saw total cholesterol went down, LDL went down, triglycerol went down, LDL went down, triglycerol went down, LDL went down, triglycerol went down, HDL went up. This is like HDL went up. This is like HDL went up. This is like >> do we even have a pharmaceutical drug >> do we even have a pharmaceutical drug >> do we even have a pharmaceutical drug that can that has like that can that has like that can that has like >> this is either as good or better? >> this is either as good or better? >> this is either as good or better? >> Well, that's what I'm saying. Do we what >> Well, that's what I'm saying. Do we what >> Well, that's what I'm saying. Do we what would compare to that? would compare to that? would compare to that? >> Uh you there's a lot of uh things you >> Uh you there's a lot of uh things you >> Uh you there's a lot of uh things you could take uh to help with could take uh to help with could take uh to help with >> on the pharmaceutical side, >> on the pharmaceutical side, >> on the pharmaceutical side, >> but they all have side effects. There >> but they all have side effects. There >> but they all have side effects. There were no adverse effects recorded at all. were no adverse effects recorded at all. were no adverse effects recorded at all. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Yes. Uh it's crazy. Now they >> Yes. Uh it's crazy. Now they >> Yes. Uh it's crazy. Now they co-administered it with vitamin K2 and co-administered it with vitamin K2 and co-administered it with vitamin K2 and lowd dose aspirin but uh but that's it. lowd dose aspirin but uh but that's it. lowd dose aspirin but uh but that's it. >> Fibbrin fibbrronolytic units. >> Fibbrin fibbrronolytic units. >> Fibbrin fibbrronolytic units. >> Fibonolytic units. I don't know what the >> Fibonolytic units. I don't know what the >> Fibonolytic units. I don't know what the heck that was. heck that was. heck that was. >> Measures the potency and enzyatic >> Measures the potency and enzyatic >> Measures the potency and enzyatic activity. activity. activity. >> So it breaks down fibbrin a protein >> So it breaks down fibbrin a protein >> So it breaks down fibbrin a protein involved in blood clotting. involved in blood clotting. involved in blood clotting. >> Uh dude, this is like >> Uh dude, this is like >> Uh dude, this is like >> something that everybody should kind of >> something that everybody should kind of >> something that everybody should kind of take. Why would you not take. Why would you not take. Why would you not prophylactically? Yeah. pro for heart prophylactically? Yeah. pro for heart prophylactically? Yeah. pro for heart health. This is remarkable uh health. This is remarkable uh health. This is remarkable uh supplement. It's really really good. supplement. It's really really good. supplement. It's really really good. >> Of course, Doug doesn't shoot. >> Of course, Doug doesn't shoot. >> Of course, Doug doesn't shoot. >> And this is this guy. He's like, I'm >> And this is this guy. He's like, I'm >> And this is this guy. He's like, I'm trying to live long. trying to live long. trying to live long. >> Yeah. After one of us has a heart >> Yeah. After one of us has a heart >> Yeah. After one of us has a heart attack, then he let you should have been attack, then he let you should have been attack, then he let you should have been taking that Nito. Whatever. taking that Nito. Whatever. taking that Nito. Whatever. >> After we did that, >> After we did that, >> After we did that, >> I'm going to tell you everything now. >> I'm going to tell you everything now. >> I'm going to tell you everything now. >> Everything. >> Everything. >> Everything. >> But isn't that isn't that remarkable? >> But isn't that isn't that remarkable? >> But isn't that isn't that remarkable? That's like a huge uh measurable effect That's like a huge uh measurable effect That's like a huge uh measurable effect on just like a cheap. We don't have any on just like a cheap. We don't have any on just like a cheap. We don't have any sort of partnership or sponsorship or sort of partnership or sponsorship or sort of partnership or sponsorship or anything. Who who does the anything. Who who does the anything. Who who does the >> Well, I mean Cabraw has Yeah. Equalife. >> Well, I mean Cabraw has Yeah. Equalife. >> Well, I mean Cabraw has Yeah. Equalife. They have a Oh, they do. They have a Oh, they do. They have a Oh, they do. >> In fact, one of his emails was >> In fact, one of his emails was >> In fact, one of his emails was highlighting the fact that this, you highlighting the fact that this, you highlighting the fact that this, you know, can address plaque buildup know, can address plaque buildup know, can address plaque buildup >> and um I responded to it and then bought >> and um I responded to it and then bought >> and um I responded to it and then bought some. Yeah. some. Yeah. some. Yeah. >> Yeah. I didn't tell you. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. I didn't tell you. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. I didn't tell you. I'm sorry. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, I started taking it. Uh >> Well, I started taking it. Uh >> Well, I started taking it. Uh >> Oh, you take it, too? >> Oh, you take it, too? >> Oh, you take it, too? >> I just started taking it like uh >> I just started taking it like uh >> I just started taking it like uh >> trying so much. You got to listen to You >> trying so much. You got to listen to You >> trying so much. You got to listen to You got to listen to the show. got to listen to the show. got to listen to the show. >> I'm I'm I'm less >> I'm I'm I'm less >> I'm I'm I'm less >> I got a slug. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. It >> I got a slug. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. It >> I got a slug. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. It could take him an hour and a half just could take him an hour and a half just could take him an hour and a half just to get through all the stuff that he to get through all the stuff that he to get through all the stuff that he takes with so I don't even want to hear takes with so I don't even want to hear takes with so I don't even want to hear everything he's taking. everything he's taking. everything he's taking. >> I've been taking it for uh probably two >> I've been taking it for uh probably two >> I've been taking it for uh probably two months or 3 months or so. Uh this was I months or 3 months or so. Uh this was I months or 3 months or so. Uh this was I remember we did our our full body scan. remember we did our our full body scan. remember we did our our full body scan. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But they did but it didn't look at >> But they did but it didn't look at >> But they did but it didn't look at artery health, right? It looked for like artery health, right? It looked for like artery health, right? It looked for like precancerous stuff. And I still have yet precancerous stuff. And I still have yet precancerous stuff. And I still have yet to schedule. actually going to go see a to schedule. actually going to go see a to schedule. actually going to go see a doctor soon because I want to schedule doctor soon because I want to schedule doctor soon because I want to schedule uh one of those ultrasounds where they uh one of those ultrasounds where they uh one of those ultrasounds where they look at your you know all your arteries look at your you know all your arteries look at your you know all your arteries to see if you have any to see if you have any to see if you have any >> any buildup just as a precaution. Um I >> any buildup just as a precaution. Um I >> any buildup just as a precaution. Um I actually have a I have a family member actually have a I have a family member actually have a I have a family member who at my age had a heart attack not who at my age had a heart attack not who at my age had a heart attack not that long ago which is kind of wild. that long ago which is kind of wild. that long ago which is kind of wild. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I just found another friend of mine >> And I just found another friend of mine >> And I just found another friend of mine at my age had cardiac arrest. So I think at my age had cardiac arrest. So I think at my age had cardiac arrest. So I think we're getting to the age now we start to we're getting to the age now we start to we're getting to the age now we start to hear these weird things. hear these weird things. hear these weird things. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So uh you know usually supplements I >> So uh you know usually supplements I >> So uh you know usually supplements I would take in the past were related to would take in the past were related to would take in the past were related to muscle building or performance. Now I'm muscle building or performance. Now I'm muscle building or performance. Now I'm more interested in kind of longevity more interested in kind of longevity more interested in kind of longevity stuff. stuff. stuff. >> So for for the past few months I've been >> So for for the past few months I've been >> So for for the past few months I've been taking >> Yeah. Have you guys seen I haven't >> Yeah. Have you guys seen I haven't watched u SNL in a really long time, but watched u SNL in a really long time, but watched u SNL in a really long time, but there was like a clip and I I was there was like a clip and I I was there was like a clip and I I was watching it watching it watching it >> and uh it was interesting because >> and uh it was interesting because >> and uh it was interesting because >> so they were trying to kind of dig at >> so they were trying to kind of dig at >> so they were trying to kind of dig at RFK and like a lot of the the health uh RFK and like a lot of the the health uh RFK and like a lot of the the health uh movement that he's making and kind of movement that he's making and kind of movement that he's making and kind of attacking big pharma and all that. And attacking big pharma and all that. And attacking big pharma and all that. And so there's this one sketch which is I so there's this one sketch which is I so there's this one sketch which is I mean it was reasonably amusing but it it mean it was reasonably amusing but it it mean it was reasonably amusing but it it was like they're taking this guy through was like they're taking this guy through was like they're taking this guy through like the ER and like quick give me a like the ER and like quick give me a like the ER and like quick give me a steak and they're like give him a steak steak and they're like give him a steak steak and they're like give him a steak like inject him with methylin blue and like inject him with methylin blue and like inject him with methylin blue and you know and they're going through all you know and they're going through all you know and they're going through all these like things like we bring up is these like things like we bring up is these like things like we bring up is like you know like preventative like like you know like preventative like like you know like preventative like supplements and and they're just like supplements and and they're just like supplements and and they're just like throwing all that at them and like throwing all that at them and like throwing all that at them and like totally like putting a dig and and at uh totally like putting a dig and and at uh totally like putting a dig and and at uh uh you know uh you know uh you know this space and I'm sure it's like a dig this space and I'm sure it's like a dig this space and I'm sure it's like a dig at Joe Rogan and like you know all that at Joe Rogan and like you know all that at Joe Rogan and like you know all that kind of stuff but it's it was kind of stuff but it's it was kind of stuff but it's it was interesting for me to see like that interesting for me to see like that interesting for me to see like that other side of the culture that's like other side of the culture that's like other side of the culture that's like still and of course like we're not out still and of course like we're not out still and of course like we're not out here like promoting for interventions here like promoting for interventions here like promoting for interventions like on the you know western medicine's like on the you know western medicine's like on the you know western medicine's amazing for you know acute trauma and amazing for you know acute trauma and amazing for you know acute trauma and like yeah it's like it's it's silly and like yeah it's like it's it's silly and like yeah it's like it's it's silly and stupid. I know it's a joke, but it's stupid. I know it's a joke, but it's stupid. I know it's a joke, but it's it's just kind of funny cuz that that it's just kind of funny cuz that that it's just kind of funny cuz that that puts it like that thought in, you know, puts it like that thought in, you know, puts it like that thought in, you know, other people that like have these other people that like have these other people that like have these preconceptions that like, oh, this is preconceptions that like, oh, this is preconceptions that like, oh, this is all [ __ ] you know, and it's like it all [ __ ] you know, and it's like it all [ __ ] you know, and it's like it doesn't even fit in that category. doesn't even fit in that category. doesn't even fit in that category. >> No, it's not the same. Yeah. >> No, it's not the same. Yeah. >> No, it's not the same. Yeah. >> I have a news article I'm going to read >> I have a news article I'm going to read >> I have a news article I'm going to read and just because not because it's and just because not because it's and just because not because it's because I think we should talk about the because I think we should talk about the because I think we should talk about the news article, but I just want to see if news article, but I just want to see if news article, but I just want to see if I can read it without you guys laughing. I can read it without you guys laughing. I can read it without you guys laughing. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> yeah. So, this is the this is a it's >> yeah. So, this is the this is a it's >> yeah. So, this is the this is a it's real. This is a real news article. real. This is a real news article. real. This is a real news article. It's the most amusing title I've ever It's the most amusing title I've ever It's the most amusing title I've ever read in my entire life. So, this is uh read in my entire life. So, this is uh read in my entire life. So, this is uh ABC News Chicago. Quadruple ampute ABC News Chicago. Quadruple ampute ABC News Chicago. Quadruple ampute cornhole champion facing cornhole champion facing cornhole champion facing facing murder charges in fatal shooting. facing murder charges in fatal shooting. facing murder charges in fatal shooting. >> It's not real. >> It's not real. >> It's not real. >> Yeah, it is, dude. >> Yeah, it is, dude. >> Yeah, it is, dude. >> Yeah, it is, bro. Dayton James uh is >> Yeah, it is, bro. Dayton James uh is >> Yeah, it is, bro. Dayton James uh is accused of fatally shooting the front accused of fatally shooting the front accused of fatally shooting the front seat passengers a vehicle during an seat passengers a vehicle during an seat passengers a vehicle during an argument in La Plata, Maryland. So, he's argument in La Plata, Maryland. So, he's argument in La Plata, Maryland. So, he's the quadruple amput cornhole champion. the quadruple amput cornhole champion. the quadruple amput cornhole champion. >> Wait, quadruple. >> Wait, quadruple. >> Wait, quadruple. >> He's got no arms or no legs. >> He's got no arms or no legs. >> He's got no arms or no legs. >> How did he shoot him? >> How did he shoot him? >> How did he shoot him? >> He's got like I think he's got it shows >> He's got like I think he's got it shows >> He's got like I think he's got it shows pictures. He's got arms like to his pictures. He's got arms like to his pictures. He's got arms like to his elbows. elbows. elbows. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And uh and um Yeah, dude. And so he's a >> And uh and um Yeah, dude. And so he's a >> And uh and um Yeah, dude. And so he's a champion at cornhole and then he shot champion at cornhole and then he shot champion at cornhole and then he shot someone. So now he's in trial. Yeah, someone. So now he's in trial. Yeah, someone. So now he's in trial. Yeah, there's so I have so many questions. there's so I have so many questions. there's so I have so many questions. Random. Random. Random. >> Look, look, look. I told you, bro. >> Look, look, look. I told you, bro. >> Look, look, look. I told you, bro. Professional Professional Professional corner. >> This is real. Wow. Wow. That's That's >> This is real. Wow. Wow. That's That's like you like put a bunch of things. like you like put a bunch of things. like you like put a bunch of things. >> I had I have a lot of questions. >> I had I have a lot of questions. >> I had I have a lot of questions. >> Shake it up. Throw throwing cornhole. >> Shake it up. Throw throwing cornhole. >> Shake it up. Throw throwing cornhole. >> Yeah, dude. See >> Yeah, dude. See >> Yeah, dude. See >> what? >> what? >> what? >> Yeah. I don't How did he shoot someone >> Yeah. I don't How did he shoot someone >> Yeah. I don't How did he shoot someone though? Like there's He doesn't though? Like there's He doesn't though? Like there's He doesn't >> Bro, if you become a professional >> Bro, if you become a professional >> Bro, if you become a professional cornhole gun is is easier. cornhole gun is is easier. cornhole gun is is easier. >> Damn, dude. Maybe that's how the >> Damn, dude. Maybe that's how the >> Damn, dude. Maybe that's how the argument started. argument started. argument started. >> Like >> Like >> Like I won that last match. He's I won that last match. He's I won that last match. He's >> like, "Yeah, I can. I can shoot. You >> like, "Yeah, I can. I can shoot. You >> like, "Yeah, I can. I can shoot. You know you can't know you can't know you can't >> what? >> what? >> what? >> Blam. Yeah. So apparently he's out of >> Blam. Yeah. So apparently he's out of >> Blam. Yeah. So apparently he's out of jail. jail. jail. >> I know we're laughing. It's terrible, >> I know we're laughing. It's terrible, >> I know we're laughing. It's terrible, but I read Maryland. Maryland. You said but I read Maryland. Maryland. You said but I read Maryland. Maryland. You said >> that's that's absurd. >> that's that's absurd. >> that's that's absurd. >> You have to be so careful with the AI >> You have to be so careful with the AI >> You have to be so careful with the AI stuff, dude. Now it's stuff, dude. Now it's stuff, dude. Now it's >> I know, dude. I had to >> I know, dude. I had to >> I know, dude. I had to >> multiple times I've sent things now >> multiple times I've sent things now >> multiple times I've sent things now where I'm like, man, I can't send where I'm like, man, I can't send where I'm like, man, I can't send anything anymore without like it's so anything anymore without like it's so anything anymore without like it's so lame that I have to go do. lame that I have to go do. lame that I have to go do. >> If it's on Fox News, it's real, >> If it's on Fox News, it's real, >> If it's on Fox News, it's real, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Yeah, dude. So that's what this So this >> Yeah, dude. So that's what this So this >> Yeah, dude. So that's what this So this was uh the um the Did you see the viral was uh the um the Did you see the viral was uh the um the Did you see the viral video of the lady acting like she was a video of the lady acting like she was a video of the lady acting like she was a dog in front of the grocery store? dog in front of the grocery store? dog in front of the grocery store? >> Oh, and the dog attacked her. >> Oh, and the dog attacked her. >> Oh, and the dog attacked her. >> Yes, the dog. You know that was AI. >> Yes, the dog. You know that was AI. >> Yes, the dog. You know that was AI. >> That was it. It had to be. Okay. >> That was it. It had to be. Okay. >> That was it. It had to be. Okay. >> So that was fake. >> So that was fake. >> So that was fake. >> I knew it. But it went viral like crazy >> I knew it. But it went viral like crazy >> I knew it. But it went viral like crazy and so many people comment sharing it and so many people comment sharing it and so many people comment sharing it and thinking it was real and then and thinking it was real and then and thinking it was real and then >> I'm just laughing cuz I could just >> I'm just laughing cuz I could just >> I'm just laughing cuz I could just imagine if that really happened. imagine if that really happened. imagine if that really happened. >> Me too. I mean it looked it looked >> Me too. I mean it looked it looked >> Me too. I mean it looked it looked really real and it was plausible and so really real and it was plausible and so really real and it was plausible and so I but that's how it gets you, right? I but that's how it gets you, right? I but that's how it gets you, right? It's like it's something that's It's like it's something that's It's like it's something that's plausible like that and then it it and plausible like that and then it it and plausible like that and then it it and it does a good job. It's like man it does a good job. It's like man it does a good job. It's like man there's so much of this is going to be there's so much of this is going to be there's so much of this is going to be going on where people you're just going going on where people you're just going going on where people you're just going to will we do you think do you think you to will we do you think do you think you to will we do you think do you think you stop sending stuff to your buddies? stop sending stuff to your buddies? stop sending stuff to your buddies? >> You know what AI is doing? AI is >> You know what AI is doing? AI is >> You know what AI is doing? AI is detecting AI. I see that on X. So detecting AI. I see that on X. So detecting AI. I see that on X. So something will get posted and then something will get posted and then something will get posted and then someone will underneath it say hey Grock someone will underneath it say hey Grock someone will underneath it say hey Grock is this real? And then Grock will say uh is this real? And then Grock will say uh is this real? And then Grock will say uh there's an 87% chance or whatever this there's an 87% chance or whatever this there's an 87% chance or whatever this is AI. is AI. is AI. >> Yeah. Well, there needs to be that I >> Yeah. Well, there needs to be that I >> Yeah. Well, there needs to be that I feel like uh within the next iterations feel like uh within the next iterations feel like uh within the next iterations of these like social media platforms if of these like social media platforms if of these like social media platforms if they could have as options. You could they could have as options. You could they could have as options. You could scan it first before you share it cuz scan it first before you share it cuz scan it first before you share it cuz like people will just like like people will just like like people will just like >> It is kind of cool though how uh it >> It is kind of cool though how uh it >> It is kind of cool though how uh it organically we kind of self police it organically we kind of self police it organically we kind of self police it though. Yeah. though. Yeah. though. Yeah. >> So like you have to check the comments. >> So like you have to check the comments. >> So like you have to check the comments. >> Oh yeah, you check the comments a lot of >> Oh yeah, you check the comments a lot of >> Oh yeah, you check the comments a lot of times and you'll see and that's my my times and you'll see and that's my my times and you'll see and that's my my tellt tell to go do a little digging is tellt tell to go do a little digging is tellt tell to go do a little digging is if I see a hand if I see more than one if I see a hand if I see more than one if I see a hand if I see more than one person going, "Oh, this is AI." person going, "Oh, this is AI." person going, "Oh, this is AI." >> Yeah. like I go, "Oh, wow. Maybe this is >> Yeah. like I go, "Oh, wow. Maybe this is >> Yeah. like I go, "Oh, wow. Maybe this is and then I'll read." and then I'll read." and then I'll read." >> Dude, there's a picture that keep >> Dude, there's a picture that keep >> Dude, there's a picture that keep >> We're in a weird spot with that right >> We're in a weird spot with that right >> We're in a weird spot with that right now. now. now. >> There's a series of photos that people >> There's a series of photos that people >> There's a series of photos that people keep saying are real, but I can't keep saying are real, but I can't keep saying are real, but I can't believe that they're real from the believe that they're real from the believe that they're real from the Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. >> Yeah. With Stephen Hawking. >> Yeah. With Stephen Hawking. >> Yeah. With Stephen Hawking. >> Dude, in a dress, >> Dude, in a dress, >> Dude, in a dress, >> bro. It's Bill Clinton. >> bro. It's Bill Clinton. >> bro. It's Bill Clinton. >> Did you look it up to see if it was real >> Did you look it up to see if it was real >> Did you look it up to see if it was real or not? or not? or not? >> One of them >> One of them >> One of them >> people are saying it's real. >> people are saying it's real. >> people are saying it's real. >> One of them said, "Yeah, they screened >> One of them said, "Yeah, they screened >> One of them said, "Yeah, they screened it through a lot of the AI detection and it through a lot of the AI detection and it through a lot of the AI detection and it said it said it said >> and he's like he's like, "Bro, >> and he's like he's like, "Bro, >> and he's like he's like, "Bro, >> bro, did you see him?" >> bro, did you see him?" >> bro, did you see him?" >> Yes, I did. So ste okay. So Stephen >> Yes, I did. So ste okay. So Stephen >> Yes, I did. So ste okay. So Stephen Hawkins is like in but then you see Hawkins is like in but then you see Hawkins is like in but then you see dress like a little doll. dress like a little doll. dress like a little doll. >> There's other ones where the AI see this >> There's other ones where the AI see this >> There's other ones where the AI see this is what they do. It's like information is what they do. It's like information is what they do. It's like information then disinformation. then disinformation. then disinformation. >> Look at that dude. So >> Look at that dude. So >> Look at that dude. So >> So that that one is claimed as real but >> So that that one is claimed as real but >> So that that one is claimed as real but there was another one recently where there was another one recently where there was another one recently where they had like Epstein they had like Epstein they had like Epstein Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton and Bill Clinton and >> so disturbing. >> so disturbing. >> so disturbing. >> I don't know if it was uh Bill Gates or >> I don't know if it was uh Bill Gates or >> I don't know if it was uh Bill Gates or not but they were all like you know not but they were all like you know not but they were all like you know hanging out with him like on the ground. hanging out with him like on the ground. hanging out with him like on the ground. >> Yeah. And you're like, and so I feel >> Yeah. And you're like, and so I feel >> Yeah. And you're like, and so I feel like that they're going to add AI like that they're going to add AI like that they're going to add AI versions of like real pictures just to versions of like real pictures just to versions of like real pictures just to kind of convolute it all, kind of convolute it all, kind of convolute it all, >> right? To throw up. Yeah. >> right? To throw up. Yeah. >> right? To throw up. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, is that saying it's real, >> Yeah. So, is that saying it's real, >> Yeah. So, is that saying it's real, Doug? Is did it say? Doug? Is did it say? Doug? Is did it say? >> Uh, I don't know. >> Uh, I don't know. >> Uh, I don't know. >> Oh, you had it. You had it. >> Oh, you had it. You had it. >> Oh, you had it. You had it. >> Well, I don't know what happened. >> Well, I don't know what happened. >> Well, I don't know what happened. >> Recent unseal. Oh, look at that. >> Recent unseal. Oh, look at that. >> Recent unseal. Oh, look at that. >> Yeah, they just disappeared off my FBI >> Yeah, they just disappeared off my FBI >> Yeah, they just disappeared off my FBI erasing it. >> I hate the internet. Recent unsealed >> I hate the internet. Recent unsealed documents from the Jeffrey Epstein documents from the Jeffrey Epstein documents from the Jeffrey Epstein invest in investigation result in the invest in investigation result in the invest in investigation result in the release of various photographs including release of various photographs including release of various photographs including authentic images of Bill Clinton and authentic images of Bill Clinton and authentic images of Bill Clinton and Stephen Hawkings Stephen Hawkings Stephen Hawkings >> as well as several AI generated >> as well as several AI generated >> as well as several AI generated fabrications. fabrications. fabrications. >> So just adjust >> So just adjust >> So just adjust >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Okay, so >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Okay, so >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Okay, so that one's real. that one's real. that one's real. >> They try to discredit it by adding all >> They try to discredit it by adding all >> They try to discredit it by adding all this extra AI image. this extra AI image. this extra AI image. >> No, see they're not the ones where he's >> No, see they're not the ones where he's >> No, see they're not the ones where he's dressed like a doll. dressed like a doll. dressed like a doll. >> Oh, the princess outfit they're saying >> Oh, the princess outfit they're saying >> Oh, the princess outfit they're saying is AI generated. is AI generated. is AI generated. >> Okay. Thank god it's so disturbing news. >> Okay. Thank god it's so disturbing news. >> Okay. Thank god it's so disturbing news. >> It's just weird. >> It's just weird. >> It's just weird. >> I mean, but then again, >> I mean, but then again, >> I mean, but then again, >> that's the least disturbing out of >> that's the least disturbing out of >> that's the least disturbing out of anything that's come out with that. anything that's come out with that. anything that's come out with that. >> I wanted you to go down the rabbit hole >> I wanted you to go down the rabbit hole >> I wanted you to go down the rabbit hole what we talked about when we walked the what we talked about when we walked the what we talked about when we walked the other day. The uh the thing that I just other day. The uh the thing that I just other day. The uh the thing that I just never heard of until just recently, the never heard of until just recently, the never heard of until just recently, the the neurological thing I was telling you the neurological thing I was telling you the neurological thing I was telling you about the aphantasia, I think. Am I about the aphantasia, I think. Am I about the aphantasia, I think. Am I saying that right? saying that right? saying that right? >> I think it's finally remember the term. >> I think it's finally remember the term. >> I think it's finally remember the term. >> Yeah, I think Yeah, it's called I think >> Yeah, I think Yeah, it's called I think >> Yeah, I think Yeah, it's called I think it's called aphantasia. it's called aphantasia. it's called aphantasia. >> Aphantasia or a >> Aphantasia or a >> Aphantasia or a >> like a ph. >> like a ph. >> like a ph. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Like a like a There it is. Right there. >> Like a like a There it is. Right there. >> Like a like a There it is. Right there. A P H A N. A P H A N. A P H A N. >> Oh, Mantasia. >> Oh, Mantasia. >> Oh, Mantasia. >> That sounded >> That sounded >> That sounded >> is the inability to voluntarily create >> is the inability to voluntarily create >> is the inability to voluntarily create mental images in the mind's eye. mental images in the mind's eye. mental images in the mind's eye. >> Often described as a blank screen when >> Often described as a blank screen when >> Often described as a blank screen when attempting to visualize scenes, objects, attempting to visualize scenes, objects, attempting to visualize scenes, objects, or faces. It's a form of neurodeiversity or faces. It's a form of neurodeiversity or faces. It's a form of neurodeiversity which occurs in 2 to 4% of people. which occurs in 2 to 4% of people. which occurs in 2 to 4% of people. >> So, so, so 2 to 4% of people if you tell >> So, so, so 2 to 4% of people if you tell >> So, so, so 2 to 4% of people if you tell them, hey, can you picture a car in your them, hey, can you picture a car in your them, hey, can you picture a car in your mind? They can't. mind? They can't. mind? They can't. >> They can't. >> They can't. >> They can't. >> Well, and at all at all, but there's >> Well, and at all at all, but there's >> Well, and at all at all, but there's actually a sliding scale. So that 2 to actually a sliding scale. So that 2 to actually a sliding scale. So that 2 to 4% is at all, 4% is at all, 4% is at all, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But a lot of people are somewhere on the >> But a lot of people are somewhere on the >> But a lot of people are somewhere on the spectrum of that. Like so it's like and spectrum of that. Like so it's like and spectrum of that. Like so it's like and and there there's I don't know if Doug and there there's I don't know if Doug and there there's I don't know if Doug looks up like the graph, but the graph looks up like the graph, but the graph looks up like the graph, but the graph looks like at all is what 2 to 4%. And looks like at all is what 2 to 4%. And looks like at all is what 2 to 4%. And then a lot of people will fall. then a lot of people will fall. then a lot of people will fall. >> So does that also mean that they can't >> So does that also mean that they can't >> So does that also mean that they can't if you ask them to a piece of paper to if you ask them to a piece of paper to if you ask them to a piece of paper to draw it out like they would draw? They draw it out like they would draw? They draw it out like they would draw? They can draw it but they can't see it in can draw it but they can't see it in can draw it but they can't see it in their mind. their mind. their mind. >> Yeah, they can they can still Yeah, >> Yeah, they can they can still Yeah, >> Yeah, they can they can still Yeah, that's weird. that's weird. that's weird. >> Yeah, there's the scale right there. >> Yeah, there's the scale right there. >> Yeah, there's the scale right there. See? Not at all. Then there's a two, See? Not at all. Then there's a two, See? Not at all. Then there's a two, then there's a three, then there's four. then there's a three, then there's four. then there's a three, then there's four. I was trying to figure out where I fell I was trying to figure out where I fell I was trying to figure out where I fell on that spectrum because I can see the on that spectrum because I can see the on that spectrum because I can see the red apple, but I can't see it to like red apple, but I can't see it to like red apple, but I can't see it to like the five where the like the the one the five where the like the the one the five where the like the the one example I example I example I >> I can picture it. Okay. >> I can picture it. Okay. >> I can picture it. Okay. >> Like really like the five is like like >> Like really like the five is like like >> Like really like the five is like like the shimmer off the apple and the shimmer off the apple and the shimmer off the apple and >> No, I'm probably in the middle with that >> No, I'm probably in the middle with that >> No, I'm probably in the middle with that detail. detail. detail. >> So, it says it's a form of >> So, it says it's a form of >> So, it says it's a form of neurodeiversity. So, I I'm I'm I have a neurodeiversity. So, I I'm I'm I have a neurodeiversity. So, I I'm I'm I have a neurode divergent mind which which has neurode divergent mind which which has neurode divergent mind which which has been labeled been labeled been labeled >> ADHD, but I don't think I really fit >> ADHD, but I don't think I really fit >> ADHD, but I don't think I really fit neatly in that category. You're neatly in that category. You're neatly in that category. You're >> weird. >> weird. >> weird. >> Yeah. Thanks, dude. >> Yeah. Thanks, dude. >> Yeah. Thanks, dude. >> You just offended me. >> You just offended me. >> You just offended me. >> Well, your your ability to recall words >> Well, your your ability to recall words >> Well, your your ability to recall words is really fascinating. That's why I was is really fascinating. That's why I was is really fascinating. That's why I was really curious to bring it up to you really curious to bring it up to you really curious to bring it up to you because I was sh when my buddy and I who because I was sh when my buddy and I who because I was sh when my buddy and I who were talking about this. I was like, were talking about this. I was like, were talking about this. I was like, "Oh, I can't wait to bring this up to S "Oh, I can't wait to bring this up to S "Oh, I can't wait to bring this up to S because he and I was explaining to him because he and I was explaining to him because he and I was explaining to him that, you know, the three of us can all that, you know, the three of us can all that, you know, the three of us can all read a study, the same exact study for read a study, the same exact study for read a study, the same exact study for the very first time, uh, together, and the very first time, uh, together, and the very first time, uh, together, and you asked me to recall it, and I'll mess you asked me to recall it, and I'll mess you asked me to recall it, and I'll mess it up all over the place. It's like I I it up all over the place. It's like I I it up all over the place. It's like I I won't be able to recall it exactly and won't be able to recall it exactly and won't be able to recall it exactly and and I'll need to have read it five to 10 and I'll need to have read it five to 10 and I'll need to have read it five to 10 times, messed it up four or five times, times, messed it up four or five times, times, messed it up four or five times, repeating it, and then finally it repeating it, and then finally it repeating it, and then finally it becomes like I can explain it where you becomes like I can explain it where you becomes like I can explain it where you can do that and then almost verbatim. can do that and then almost verbatim. can do that and then almost verbatim. >> It's almost like I need a story behind >> It's almost like I need a story behind >> It's almost like I need a story behind it for it to to capture for me, right? it for it to to capture for me, right? it for it to to capture for me, right? Otherwise, I'm like Otherwise, I'm like Otherwise, I'm like >> I've got to connect it to some things. I >> I've got to connect it to some things. I >> I've got to connect it to some things. I got to apply it. I've got to teach it a got to apply it. I've got to teach it a got to apply it. I've got to teach it a few times. Yeah. Then then now I'm few times. Yeah. Then then now I'm few times. Yeah. Then then now I'm starting to get where I feel you can starting to get where I feel you can starting to get where I feel you can look at a study, read it, and then 10 look at a study, read it, and then 10 look at a study, read it, and then 10 minutes later you minutes later you minutes later you >> So I didn't know that was weird. My my >> So I didn't know that was weird. My my >> So I didn't know that was weird. My my family. family. family. >> No, my family would say I was >> No, my family would say I was >> No, my family would say I was >> like that too. She is. >> like that too. She is. >> like that too. She is. >> Oh, she can do that. >> Oh, she can do that. >> Oh, she can do that. >> Very photographic memory. >> Very photographic memory. >> Very photographic memory. >> So people when I was a kid, my family >> So people when I was a kid, my family >> So people when I was a kid, my family would call me like they'd say I was a would call me like they'd say I was a would call me like they'd say I was a walking encyclopedia. I don't know that walking encyclopedia. I don't know that walking encyclopedia. I don't know that was weird. was weird. was weird. >> But I what I do know is weird is that I >> But I what I do know is weird is that I >> But I what I do know is weird is that I have such a terrible sense of direction have such a terrible sense of direction have such a terrible sense of direction that it's so frustrating. I can I I get that it's so frustrating. I can I I get that it's so frustrating. I can I I get so disoriented so easily. And I had a so disoriented so easily. And I had a so disoriented so easily. And I had a client once that worked uh in the um in client once that worked uh in the um in client once that worked uh in the um in that field and I started explaining to that field and I started explaining to that field and I started explaining to her how bad my sense of direction was to her how bad my sense of direction was to her how bad my sense of direction was to the point where I was like, "No, no." I the point where I was like, "No, no." I the point where I was like, "No, no." I said, "You don't understand. I've driven said, "You don't understand. I've driven said, "You don't understand. I've driven to this place to this place to this place >> 500 times, I will have to use navigation >> 500 times, I will have to use navigation >> 500 times, I will have to use navigation every time. I won't know how to get every time. I won't know how to get every time. I won't know how to get there. And if I go and park in a in a in there. And if I go and park in a in a in there. And if I go and park in a in a in a in a parking lot and I walk in a in a parking lot and I walk in a in a parking lot and I walk in >> 10 ft, turn back around, come, I'll >> 10 ft, turn back around, come, I'll >> 10 ft, turn back around, come, I'll forget. I won't know where I am or forget. I won't know where I am or forget. I won't know where I am or what's going on." Yeah. what's going on." Yeah. what's going on." Yeah. >> And she told me that that was a type of >> And she told me that that was a type of >> And she told me that that was a type of neurody diver actually a type of neurody diver actually a type of neurody diver actually a type of dyslexia. She said, dyslexia. She said, dyslexia. She said, >> "Yeah, >> "Yeah, >> "Yeah, >> just with >> just with >> just with >> Well, no. I've seen it before. I've >> Well, no. I've seen it before. I've >> Well, no. I've seen it before. I've teased you before. We've we've left our teased you before. We've we've left our teased you before. We've we've left our our house that we've we've we've owned our house that we've we've we've owned our house that we've we've we've owned for like eight years." It's like, "Do I for like eight years." It's like, "Do I for like eight years." It's like, "Do I go left or right?" go left or right?" go left or right?" >> You can go either way. But >> You can go either way. But >> You can go either way. But >> crazy kid, you don't know. >> crazy kid, you don't know. >> crazy kid, you don't know. >> This is your house. You know that >> This is your house. You know that >> This is your house. You know that >> couple times. Really bad. >> couple times. Really bad. >> couple times. Really bad. >> So, yeah. No, you I'm bad, too. I >> So, yeah. No, you I'm bad, too. I >> So, yeah. No, you I'm bad, too. I attribute mine though because I I I used attribute mine though because I I I used attribute mine though because I I I used to think I I had that skill really well to think I I had that skill really well to think I I had that skill really well when I was younger. when I was younger. when I was younger. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> Well, I'll tell you right now. I can't >> Well, I'll tell you right now. I can't >> Well, I'll tell you right now. I can't get home from here. You guys know that, get home from here. You guys know that, get home from here. You guys know that, right? right? right? >> You can't get home from >> You can't get home from >> You can't get home from I could probably figure it out, but it I could probably figure it out, but it I could probably figure it out, but it would be a really long way because would be a really long way because would be a really long way because there's a few places I know where to go. there's a few places I know where to go. there's a few places I know where to go. But the way that I always go home, I use But the way that I always go home, I use But the way that I always go home, I use navigation. If you told me right now, if navigation. If you told me right now, if navigation. If you told me right now, if like the power went out right now, like the power went out right now, like the power went out right now, that's my my biggest fear that we lose that's my my biggest fear that we lose that's my my biggest fear that we lose power. I won't be able to go home to be power. I won't be able to go home to be power. I won't be able to go home to be with my family. my poor kids and wife with my family. my poor kids and wife with my family. my poor kids and wife will be like, "Ah, the power's out." And will be like, "Ah, the power's out." And will be like, "Ah, the power's out." And I'll be like, "I mean, there's a So, I'll be like, "I mean, there's a So, I'll be like, "I mean, there's a So, when I go away, when I go the back way when I go away, when I go the back way when I go away, when I go the back way >> right right now, I'm driving the back >> right right now, I'm driving the back >> right right now, I'm driving the back way a lot. It's not that much different. way a lot. It's not that much different. way a lot. It's not that much different. It's maybe like 10 minutes at back like It's maybe like 10 minutes at back like It's maybe like 10 minutes at back like kind of country road where Doug is at." kind of country road where Doug is at." kind of country road where Doug is at." And uh I I I actually So, I I still put And uh I I I actually So, I I still put And uh I I I actually So, I I still put it on, but I I try I'm trying to train it on, but I I try I'm trying to train it on, but I I try I'm trying to train myself to not to know all the back road myself to not to know all the back road myself to not to know all the back road kind of turns. And it is it's like it's kind of turns. And it is it's like it's kind of turns. And it is it's like it's like a muscle you have to train too like a muscle you have to train too like a muscle you have to train too because uh I I know I used to be really because uh I I know I used to be really because uh I I know I used to be really good at that but I've become so good at that but I've become so good at that but I've become so dependent like you where I just put it dependent like you where I just put it dependent like you where I just put it in. in. in. >> So mine isn't de I didn't develop after >> So mine isn't de I didn't develop after >> So mine isn't de I didn't develop after navigation. We we we drove long enough navigation. We we we drove long enough navigation. We we we drove long enough without navigation. They didn't exist without navigation. They didn't exist without navigation. They didn't exist when we were kids. when we were kids. when we were kids. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I would get lost. >> I would get lost. >> I would get lost. >> So you you you recall that even further. >> So you you you recall that even further. >> So you you you recall that even further. Okay. Yeah. See I I recall bragging Okay. Yeah. See I I recall bragging Okay. Yeah. See I I recall bragging about how good I was. Oh one time I go about how good I was. Oh one time I go about how good I was. Oh one time I go somewhere I got it. You know like somewhere I got it. You know like somewhere I got it. You know like >> I was actually terrified of getting >> I was actually terrified of getting >> I was actually terrified of getting because I would get lost so often. I because I would get lost so often. I because I would get lost so often. I used to hate it. I used to hate it. Hate used to hate it. I used to hate it. Hate used to hate it. I used to hate it. Hate it. Hate it. If I miss a turn, it. Hate it. If I miss a turn, it. Hate it. If I miss a turn, >> oh god, here I go. I'm lost now. I'm >> oh god, here I go. I'm lost now. I'm >> oh god, here I go. I'm lost now. I'm stuck. I'd have to ask for direct figure stuck. I'd have to ask for direct figure stuck. I'd have to ask for direct figure things out. It And when navigation first things out. It And when navigation first things out. It And when navigation first came out, it was like uh it was like a came out, it was like uh it was like a came out, it was like uh it was like a gift from God, man. It was like, oh god, gift from God, man. It was like, oh god, gift from God, man. It was like, oh god, thank finally I can go places. Whereas thank finally I can go places. Whereas thank finally I can go places. Whereas before I was totally totally screwed. before I was totally totally screwed. before I was totally totally screwed. Couldn't get to the mall for my house. Couldn't get to the mall for my house. Couldn't get to the mall for my house. To go from where I grew up to go to the To go from where I grew up to go to the To go from where I grew up to go to the mall is uh one, two, three turns. mall is uh one, two, three turns. mall is uh one, two, three turns. Couldn't get there. Couldn't get there. Couldn't get there. >> Couldn't get there. It's crazy. >> Couldn't get there. It's crazy. >> Couldn't get there. It's crazy. >> That is funny. Anyway, I want to talk to >> That is funny. Anyway, I want to talk to >> That is funny. Anyway, I want to talk to you guys about uh the green juice. I had you guys about uh the green juice. I had you guys about uh the green juice. I had a message from someone who said it a message from someone who said it a message from someone who said it really helped with their anxiety. really helped with their anxiety. really helped with their anxiety. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah. So, it's the Ashwagandha. >> Yeah. So, it's the Ashwagandha. >> Yeah. So, it's the Ashwagandha. Ashwagandha. Ashwagandha. Ashwagandha. >> Yeah, the Ashwagandha. >> Yeah, the Ashwagandha. >> Yeah, the Ashwagandha. >> They were saying that they had anxiety >> They were saying that they had anxiety >> They were saying that they had anxiety kind of on and off kind of physical kind of on and off kind of physical kind of on and off kind of physical symptoms, anxiety, and uh they started symptoms, anxiety, and uh they started symptoms, anxiety, and uh they started using the green juice for health because using the green juice for health because using the green juice for health because they heard us talk about they heard us talk about they heard us talk about >> Organifi is green juice and it it went >> Organifi is green juice and it it went >> Organifi is green juice and it it went away and they started connecting the away and they started connecting the away and they started connecting the dots and said, "Oh my god, it's like one dots and said, "Oh my god, it's like one dots and said, "Oh my god, it's like one of the best things I've tried for uh for of the best things I've tried for uh for of the best things I've tried for uh for feeling anxious." I want to know how how feeling anxious." I want to know how how feeling anxious." I want to know how how organifi makes ashwagandha taste good. organifi makes ashwagandha taste good. organifi makes ashwagandha taste good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Have you ever had straight ashwagandha? >> Have you ever had straight ashwagandha? >> Have you ever had straight ashwagandha? >> Do you know what ashwagandha means? >> Do you know what ashwagandha means? >> Do you know what ashwagandha means? >> I think ashwagandha may maybe look this >> I think ashwagandha may maybe look this >> I think ashwagandha may maybe look this up. I think it means horse piss if I'm up. I think it means horse piss if I'm up. I think it means horse piss if I'm not mistaken not mistaken not mistaken like that. like that. like that. >> Yeah, I think does ashwagandha look that >> Yeah, I think does ashwagandha look that >> Yeah, I think does ashwagandha look that up. up. up. >> Does that really mean like horse tail or >> Does that really mean like horse tail or >> Does that really mean like horse tail or something like that? something like that? something like that? >> Horse tail sounds right. >> Horse tail sounds right. >> Horse tail sounds right. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Yeah. If obviously you guys have had >> Yeah. If obviously you guys have had >> Yeah. If obviously you guys have had >> Doug, what does ashwagandha mean? I >> Doug, what does ashwagandha mean? I >> Doug, what does ashwagandha mean? I don't know why you don't how to use don't know why you don't how to use don't know why you don't how to use Google anymore. Never. Google anymore. Never. Google anymore. Never. >> He Googles in a strange neurodyiverent >> He Googles in a strange neurodyiverent >> He Googles in a strange neurodyiverent Google Google Google >> like a boober. >> He does. This video will Google >> He does. This video will Google Ashwagand Ashwagand Ashwagand >> smell of horse. >> smell of horse. >> smell of horse. >> Smell of horse. >> Smell of horse. >> Smell of horse. >> This is what Doug will Google >> This is what Doug will Google >> This is what Doug will Google Ashwagandha info. They definitely go. Ashwagandha info. They definitely go. Ashwagandha info. They definitely go. >> I I was typing in the origin of the >> I I was typing in the origin of the >> I I was typing in the origin of the Ashwagandha name. But yeah, what does Ashwagandha name. But yeah, what does Ashwagandha name. But yeah, what does Ashwagandha mean is easier. Okay. Ashwagandha mean is easier. Okay. Ashwagandha mean is easier. Okay. >> Poor Doug. >> Poor Doug. >> Poor Doug. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Poor Doug. >> Poor Doug. >> Poor Doug. >> Can't wait for Lisa. I'm not. And you >> Can't wait for Lisa. I'm not. And you >> Can't wait for Lisa. I'm not. And you wonder why I don't share. wonder why I don't share. wonder why I don't share. This is why he hoards all the secrets This is why he hoards all the secrets This is why he hoards all the secrets right here. Yeah, he's resentful. right here. Yeah, he's resentful. right here. Yeah, he's resentful. >> He takes his longevity supplements. >> He takes his longevity supplements. >> He takes his longevity supplements. Screw those guys. I'm going to live so Screw those guys. I'm going to live so Screw those guys. I'm going to live so much longer than those guys. much longer than those guys. much longer than those guys. >> I'm going to save all this money. He's >> I'm going to save all this money. He's >> I'm going to save all this money. He's going to back on back at us when we need going to back on back at us when we need going to back on back at us when we need him. Doug, can you hand me my Why don't him. Doug, can you hand me my Why don't him. Doug, can you hand me my Why don't you Google it? you Google it? you Google it? >> Oh, really? Why don't you Google it, S? >> Oh, really? Why don't you Google it, S? >> Oh, really? Why don't you Google it, S? Can't Google it, right? Can't Google it, right? Can't Google it, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Why you so mad, Doug? Well, you guys >> Why you so mad, Doug? Well, you guys >> Why you so mad, Doug? Well, you guys make make make >> you you are the you are the Google >> you you are the you are the Google >> you you are the you are the Google master though, everybody. You Google the master though, everybody. You Google the master though, everybody. You Google the fastest for sure. fastest for sure. fastest for sure. >> But uh AI requires a whole different way >> But uh AI requires a whole different way >> But uh AI requires a whole different way of search. of search. of search. >> Totally prompt different. >> Totally prompt different. >> Totally prompt different. >> Yeah, you definitely have to prompt >> Yeah, you definitely have to prompt >> Yeah, you definitely have to prompt different with with AI. different with with AI. different with with AI. >> I got to figure that out. I don't use AI >> I got to figure that out. I don't use AI >> I got to figure that out. I don't use AI the way you're supposed to. I just use the way you're supposed to. I just use the way you're supposed to. I just use it like a it like a it like a >> Google. I know. It's It's actually >> Google. I know. It's It's actually >> Google. I know. It's It's actually better than Google though. I like it. better than Google though. I like it. better than Google though. I like it. >> You really? >> You really? >> You really? >> Yeah. You prefer like that? >> Yeah. You prefer like that? >> Yeah. You prefer like that? >> You prefer Oh, you you like it better >> You prefer Oh, you you like it better >> You prefer Oh, you you like it better than Google? than Google? than Google? >> Yeah. Oh, by far. >> Yeah. Oh, by far. >> Yeah. Oh, by far. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've trained >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've trained >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I've trained myself to use that more cuz I I still myself to use that more cuz I I still myself to use that more cuz I I still was like, you know, I would just use was like, you know, I would just use was like, you know, I would just use search engines uh for all that stuff and search engines uh for all that stuff and search engines uh for all that stuff and it's like stupid immediately give it to it's like stupid immediately give it to it's like stupid immediately give it to you. you. you. >> There's so many cool we we don't even >> There's so many cool we we don't even >> There's so many cool we we don't even use it at the I mean, we're still use it at the I mean, we're still use it at the I mean, we're still getting better at like that. Like we getting better at like that. Like we getting better at like that. Like we have an example right now like Katrina have an example right now like Katrina have an example right now like Katrina and I uh were talking to our um car and I uh were talking to our um car and I uh were talking to our um car insurance company and you know he's insurance company and you know he's insurance company and you know he's trying to convince us to is which is trying to convince us to is which is trying to convince us to is which is separate from my house and you get like separate from my house and you get like separate from my house and you get like a a better deal a a better deal a a better deal >> if you you package the house with it and >> if you you package the house with it and >> if you you package the house with it and stuff like that. And Katrina's like I stuff like that. And Katrina's like I stuff like that. And Katrina's like I don't want to do that because I'm so don't want to do that because I'm so don't want to do that because I'm so worried that what we originally worried that what we originally worried that what we originally negotiated there there's coverage. She negotiated there there's coverage. She negotiated there there's coverage. She said I need to go through the contract said I need to go through the contract said I need to go through the contract do that. I'm like dude plug it input it do that. I'm like dude plug it input it do that. I'm like dude plug it input it into AI and have AI compare it for into AI and have AI compare it for into AI and have AI compare it for yourself. You got to read all of it. yourself. You got to read all of it. yourself. You got to read all of it. Like literally just go like give me the Like literally just go like give me the Like literally just go like give me the pros and cons of this one. give me the pros and cons of this one. give me the pros and cons of this one. give me the pros and cons of this one. Compare the pros and cons of this one. Compare the pros and cons of this one. Compare the two of them and and and like it like the two of them and and and like it like the two of them and and and like it like the things that you can use it for. We still things that you can use it for. We still things that you can use it for. We still don't completely don't completely don't completely >> You have to imagine it's like a really >> You have to imagine it's like a really >> You have to imagine it's like a really smart person. That's how you talk to it. smart person. That's how you talk to it. smart person. That's how you talk to it. So you could be like, "Hey, I'm going to So you could be like, "Hey, I'm going to So you could be like, "Hey, I'm going to be flying into this place at this time. be flying into this place at this time. be flying into this place at this time. I have to be at this appointment at this I have to be at this appointment at this I have to be at this appointment at this time. I'd like to find things to do uh time. I'd like to find things to do uh time. I'd like to find things to do uh that are going to be fun in between. I'm that are going to be fun in between. I'm that are going to be fun in between. I'm with my 16-year-old daughter. She's into with my 16-year-old daughter. She's into with my 16-year-old daughter. She's into this kind of stuff. What do you this kind of stuff. What do you this kind of stuff. What do you recommend?" Yeah. Boop boop boop boop. recommend?" Yeah. Boop boop boop boop. recommend?" Yeah. Boop boop boop boop. It'll tell you. It'll tell you. It'll tell you. >> And then the layers that you can go for >> And then the layers that you can go for >> And then the layers that you can go for because then it kicks off and you go because then it kicks off and you go because then it kicks off and you go like, "Oh, we'll keep the budget between like, "Oh, we'll keep the budget between like, "Oh, we'll keep the budget between this price and this price. and and the this price and this price. and and the this price and this price. and and the driving distance. I mean, you can just driving distance. I mean, you can just driving distance. I mean, you can just keep going going. keep going going. keep going going. >> Have you guys asked your AI yet if it >> Have you guys asked your AI yet if it >> Have you guys asked your AI yet if it knows if it knows who you are? knows if it knows who you are? knows if it knows who you are? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Ask it say, "Who am I? What do I do? And >> Ask it say, "Who am I? What do I do? And >> Ask it say, "Who am I? What do I do? And what are the things I made?" what are the things I made?" what are the things I made?" >> Well, and two, it stores anything you've >> Well, and two, it stores anything you've >> Well, and two, it stores anything you've ever done with ever done with ever done with >> Well, it'll tell you. It knows who you >> Well, it'll tell you. It knows who you >> Well, it'll tell you. It knows who you are. It'll say, "Adam Schaefer, host of are. It'll say, "Adam Schaefer, host of are. It'll say, "Adam Schaefer, host of Mind Pump. You have this. You have one Mind Pump. You have this. You have one Mind Pump. You have this. You have one child." child." child." >> It like picks up even I haven't used it >> It like picks up even I haven't used it >> It like picks up even I haven't used it in the months and it just picks up like in the months and it just picks up like in the months and it just picks up like we never stopped talking. we never stopped talking. we never stopped talking. >> Yeah, you should ask it cuz mine and I >> Yeah, you should ask it cuz mine and I >> Yeah, you should ask it cuz mine and I don't talk about any of my whatever. don't talk about any of my whatever. don't talk about any of my whatever. >> Yeah. It's like, "Oh, you're selling >> Yeah. It's like, "Oh, you're selling >> Yeah. It's like, "Oh, you're selling stuff." stuff." stuff." >> Well, I know that that we were just I >> Well, I know that that we were just I >> Well, I know that that we were just I was talking with my buddies this how was talking with my buddies this how was talking with my buddies this how good the the TV listening and phone good the the TV listening and phone good the the TV listening and phone listening stuff is. listening stuff is. listening stuff is. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> Oh, man. >> I mean, it's on >> I mean, it's on >> I mean, it's on >> It's so creepy. >> It's so creepy. >> It's so creepy. >> It's on another level now that And it's >> It's on another level now that And it's >> It's on another level now that And it's We were talking about this uh my buddy's We were talking about this uh my buddy's We were talking about this uh my buddy's reading like the Snowden book and he was reading like the Snowden book and he was reading like the Snowden book and he was he he was talking about this while we he he was talking about this while we he he was talking about this while we were hanging out this last weekend. Um were hanging out this last weekend. Um were hanging out this last weekend. Um >> and he's like he's like he that was part >> and he's like he's like he that was part >> and he's like he's like he that was part of Snowden was talking about that stuff of Snowden was talking about that stuff of Snowden was talking about that stuff a long long time ago, right? M. a long long time ago, right? M. a long long time ago, right? M. >> And so we've all kind of known it's been >> And so we've all kind of known it's been >> And so we've all kind of known it's been happening for a really long time, but happening for a really long time, but happening for a really long time, but the level of sophistication that it's at the level of sophistication that it's at the level of sophistication that it's at now is is crazy. It'll be there will be now is is crazy. It'll be there will be now is is crazy. It'll be there will be something super obscure like that I've something super obscure like that I've something super obscure like that I've either never talked about or Katrina and either never talked about or Katrina and either never talked about or Katrina and I haven't had a had a conversation at I haven't had a had a conversation at I haven't had a had a conversation at least in the the years that we've known least in the the years that we've known least in the the years that we've known each other about and we'll have a each other about and we'll have a each other about and we'll have a conversation about and then like turn conversation about and then like turn conversation about and then like turn our TV on and it's like recommending a our TV on and it's like recommending a our TV on and it's like recommending a documentary related to it or and it's documentary related to it or and it's documentary related to it or and it's just like just like just like >> dude come on. >> dude come on. >> dude come on. >> Yeah. Like it's not just random. >> Yeah. Like it's not just random. >> Yeah. Like it's not just random. >> Yeah. so like way in left field or or >> Yeah. so like way in left field or or >> Yeah. so like way in left field or or pull up your computer screen and all of pull up your computer screen and all of pull up your computer screen and all of a sudden you're getting an advertisement a sudden you're getting an advertisement a sudden you're getting an advertisement for but like we're he was using the for but like we're he was using the for but like we're he was using the example he's like dude my wife and I example he's like dude my wife and I example he's like dude my wife and I were literally just talking about oh we were literally just talking about oh we were literally just talking about oh we need to take the kid their kids are need to take the kid their kids are need to take the kid their kids are getting older we should take them getting older we should take them getting older we should take them camping this and that he goes 15 minutes camping this and that he goes 15 minutes camping this and that he goes 15 minutes later I'm on my computer and I was just later I'm on my computer and I was just later I'm on my computer and I was just like tents for sale and this like all like tents for sale and this like all like tents for sale and this like all like lantern and all this it's like gez like lantern and all this it's like gez like lantern and all this it's like gez >> it reminds me of uh this comedian the >> it reminds me of uh this comedian the >> it reminds me of uh this comedian the standup comedian I forget his name he's standup comedian I forget his name he's standup comedian I forget his name he's he's really funny but he like one of his he's really funny but he like one of his he's really funny but he like one of his bits was just like right in the middle bits was just like right in the middle bits was just like right in the middle he's just like I want to buy a humongous he's just like I want to buy a humongous he's just like I want to buy a humongous dildo. You know, he just keeps like dildo. You know, he just keeps like dildo. You know, he just keeps like repeating it over and over and over. repeating it over and over and over. repeating it over and over and over. He's like, "YOU'RE WELCOME. He's like, "YOU'RE WELCOME. He's like, "YOU'RE WELCOME. >> AH, >> AH, >> AH, you're going to go home and have all you're going to go home and have all you're going to go home and have all these." these." these." >> Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you're welcome people >> Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you're welcome people >> Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you're welcome people listening. listening. listening. >> Yeah. It's it's Did you know that the US >> Yeah. It's it's Did you know that the US >> Yeah. It's it's Did you know that the US government used um which planter? I government used um which planter? I government used um which planter? I think they used planter to hit the first think they used planter to hit the first think they used planter to hit the first uh thousand targets or something like uh thousand targets or something like uh thousand targets or something like that during plant palenteer. Sorry. in that during plant palenteer. Sorry. in that during plant palenteer. Sorry. in uh a round. So, they used the AI to find uh a round. So, they used the AI to find uh a round. So, they used the AI to find targets and like it was so accurate. targets and like it was so accurate. targets and like it was so accurate. They're now outfitting everything uh They're now outfitting everything uh They're now outfitting everything uh with AI to be able to find targets. with AI to be able to find targets. with AI to be able to find targets. Maybe maybe look that up, Doug. You Maybe maybe look that up, Doug. You Maybe maybe look that up, Doug. You know, government using Palunteer for know, government using Palunteer for know, government using Palunteer for targets in Iran. I'll just tell you targets in Iran. I'll just tell you targets in Iran. I'll just tell you what. what. what. >> I'll just do it. Yeah. Verbatim. >> I'll just do it. Yeah. Verbatim. >> I'll just do it. Yeah. Verbatim. >> Doug puts it palunteer information. >> Doug's getting taking shots. Doug's >> Doug's getting taking shots. Doug's catching strays today, dude. catching strays today, dude. catching strays today, dude. >> I feel like Iran right now. >> I feel like Iran right now. >> I feel like Iran right now. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. >> Too much, dude. >> Too much, dude. >> Too much, dude. >> Based on reports uh March 2026, US >> Based on reports uh March 2026, US >> Based on reports uh March 2026, US military util utilizing artificial military util utilizing artificial military util utilizing artificial intelligence technology from Palunteer, intelligence technology from Palunteer, intelligence technology from Palunteer, specifically its Marvin smart system, specifically its Marvin smart system, specifically its Marvin smart system, >> Maven. >> Maven. >> Maven. >> Maven, sorry, to identify and prioritize >> Maven, sorry, to identify and prioritize >> Maven, sorry, to identify and prioritize targets in Iran. This technology often targets in Iran. This technology often targets in Iran. This technology often referred to as AIdriven killchain. referred to as AIdriven killchain. referred to as AIdriven killchain. That's not like the way that sounds. That's not like the way that sounds. That's not like the way that sounds. This none of this sounds uh This none of this sounds uh This none of this sounds uh >> has been used to significantly speed up >> has been used to significantly speed up >> has been used to significantly speed up targeting process, allowing the military targeting process, allowing the military targeting process, allowing the military to process vast amounts of intelligence to process vast amounts of intelligence to process vast amounts of intelligence data to strike hundreds of targets in a data to strike hundreds of targets in a data to strike hundreds of targets in a short time. short time. short time. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Cool. Yeah. >> Yeah. Cool. Yeah. >> Yeah. Cool. Yeah. >> Not unsettling at all. >> Not unsettling at all. >> Not unsettling at all. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Yeah. Not at all. >> Yeah. Not at all. >> Yeah. Not at all. >> And by the way, we have something >> And by the way, we have something >> And by the way, we have something releasing on Sunday. releasing on Sunday. releasing on Sunday. >> Is it coming out Sunday? >> Is it coming out Sunday? >> Is it coming out Sunday? >> This coming Sunday. >> This coming Sunday. >> This coming Sunday. >> Oh boy. >> Oh boy. >> Oh boy. >> Here we go. Mass PPL. >> Here we go. Mass PPL. >> Here we go. Mass PPL. >> Maybe one of the hottest programs yet. >> Maybe one of the hottest programs yet. >> Maybe one of the hottest programs yet. >> Push pull legs. >> Push pull legs. >> Push pull legs. >> Any bets? Let's take a bet on where it >> Any bets? Let's take a bet on where it >> Any bets? Let's take a bet on where it lands. lands. lands. >> Let's take a bet on it >> Let's take a bet on it >> Let's take a bet on it >> in the context of just been recently. >> in the context of just been recently. >> in the context of just been recently. >> Compare it to launches. We've done so >> Compare it to launches. We've done so >> Compare it to launches. We've done so many programs. Uh I think we all predict many programs. Uh I think we all predict many programs. Uh I think we all predict it's going to do it'll be a good one, it's going to do it'll be a good one, it's going to do it'll be a good one, right? right? right? >> What do you think it will in comparison >> What do you think it will in comparison >> What do you think it will in comparison to? to? to? >> Top three, top five, top 10. >> Top three, top five, top 10. >> Top three, top five, top 10. >> It'll break top 10. >> It'll break top 10. >> It'll break top 10. >> Top five. >> Top five. >> Top five. >> Top five, you say? >> Top five, you say? >> Top five, you say? >> God. What's top three? Muscle mommy. >> God. What's top three? Muscle mommy. >> God. What's top three? Muscle mommy. >> Yep. Pass 15. S15 >> Yep. Pass 15. S15 >> Yep. Pass 15. S15 >> anabolic >> anabolic >> anabolic >> anabolic >> anabolic >> anabolic >> then and or aesthetic would be right >> then and or aesthetic would be right >> then and or aesthetic would be right there too. That would be in the top there too. That would be in the top there too. That would be in the top five. five. five. >> I'd say top five. People have asking for >> I'd say top five. People have asking for >> I'd say top five. People have asking for a PPL split forever. a PPL split forever. a PPL split forever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And this is the first time that we've >> And this is the first time that we've >> And this is the first time that we've done a a a MAPS PPL for men and for done a a a MAPS PPL for men and for done a a a MAPS PPL for men and for women. So the programming is a little women. So the programming is a little women. So the programming is a little different. So, we programmed it different. So, we programmed it different. So, we programmed it differently for women based on what differently for women based on what differently for women based on what they're typically interested in, which they're typically interested in, which they're typically interested in, which is more lower body volume, more glute is more lower body volume, more glute is more lower body volume, more glute focus, and and more shoulder focus than, focus, and and more shoulder focus than, focus, and and more shoulder focus than, let's say, let's say, let's say, >> it'd be interesting to see if uh women >> it'd be interesting to see if uh women >> it'd be interesting to see if uh women bought more than men, which bought more than men, which bought more than men, which >> Ooh, good. >> Ooh, good. >> Ooh, good. >> Right. Like, I bet you that's going to >> Right. Like, I bet you that's going to >> Right. Like, I bet you that's going to be the case. be the case. be the case. >> We have a pretty split uh audience. It >> We have a pretty split uh audience. It >> We have a pretty split uh audience. It is split. is split. is split. >> So, when I look at the analytics on uh >> So, when I look at the analytics on uh >> So, when I look at the analytics on uh on buyers and match programs, it's it's on buyers and match programs, it's it's on buyers and match programs, it's it's it's pretty it's pretty it's pretty >> You going to let the girls beat you >> You going to let the girls beat you >> You going to let the girls beat you guys? guys? guys? >> That's what I'm saying. I >> That's what I'm saying. I >> That's what I'm saying. I calling you guys out right now. So, calling you guys out right now. So, calling you guys out right now. So, >> that's a good that's it's a really it'll >> that's a good that's it's a really it'll >> that's a good that's it's a really it'll be really interesting to see if more men be really interesting to see if more men be really interesting to see if more men buy than women or vice versa. But, it's buy than women or vice versa. But, it's buy than women or vice versa. But, it's the first time we've done that. So, the first time we've done that. So, the first time we've done that. So, you'll get you can buy one that's you'll get you can buy one that's you'll get you can buy one that's programmed for what men typically want programmed for what men typically want programmed for what men typically want to work on and one for what women to work on and one for what women to work on and one for what women typically want to work on. typically want to work on. typically want to work on. >> And then probably the coolest thing that >> And then probably the coolest thing that >> And then probably the coolest thing that we're doing that is unique. We've only we're doing that is unique. We've only we're doing that is unique. We've only done it one other time is the co the done it one other time is the co the done it one other time is the co the coaching that's coming along with it, coaching that's coming along with it, coaching that's coming along with it, right? So, right? So, right? So, >> yeah, three days of group coaching >> yeah, three days of group coaching >> yeah, three days of group coaching really helpful. So Cole Cole's launching really helpful. So Cole Cole's launching really helpful. So Cole Cole's launching that with it and it'll so by the way that with it and it'll so by the way that with it and it'll so by the way like it's within I think 3 days. So like it's within I think 3 days. So like it's within I think 3 days. So after the launch I believe Wednesday is after the launch I believe Wednesday is after the launch I believe Wednesday is will be live right will be live right will be live right >> it will be the coaching will be live >> it will be the coaching will be live >> it will be the coaching will be live with it. So as soon as soon as you pick with it. So as soon as soon as you pick with it. So as soon as soon as you pick up the program um it's it's free. It's up the program um it's it's free. It's up the program um it's it's free. It's part of it. Uh uh you'll be able to join part of it. Uh uh you'll be able to join part of it. Uh uh you'll be able to join that. If you can't make the times that. If you can't make the times that. If you can't make the times there'll be a recording and you'll be there'll be a recording and you'll be there'll be a recording and you'll be able to access it. But if you want to be able to access it. But if you want to be able to access it. But if you want to be live on there and ask questions and live on there and ask questions and live on there and ask questions and >> it's also the first time a program has >> it's also the first time a program has >> it's also the first time a program has come with specific dietary instruction. come with specific dietary instruction. come with specific dietary instruction. It's much more specific. That's true. It's much more specific. That's true. It's much more specific. That's true. >> Protein, calories, >> Protein, calories, >> Protein, calories, >> and it's all organized for gaining. So, >> and it's all organized for gaining. So, >> and it's all organized for gaining. So, uh, let's go. uh, let's go. uh, let's go. >> That's the dietary advice. You can eat, >> That's the dietary advice. You can eat, >> That's the dietary advice. You can eat, you can do the program on a cup, you can do the program on a cup, you can do the program on a cup, >> bulk season, baby. >> bulk season, baby. >> bulk season, baby. >> But there is a bulk, uh, you know, type >> But there is a bulk, uh, you know, type >> But there is a bulk, uh, you know, type program in there. program in there. program in there. >> Element is an electrolyte powder. You >> Element is an electrolyte powder. You >> Element is an electrolyte powder. You can add it to your water. There's no can add it to your water. There's no can add it to your water. 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I am training to be a spin instructor and currently made it through instructor and currently made it through instructor and currently made it through my first round of auditions. I'm hoping my first round of auditions. I'm hoping my first round of auditions. I'm hoping to coach twice a week, but I'm currently to coach twice a week, but I'm currently to coach twice a week, but I'm currently cycling three times a week and running cycling three times a week and running cycling three times a week and running anabolic and I'm struggling with anabolic and I'm struggling with anabolic and I'm struggling with recovery. I'm 29 years old, mom of two. recovery. I'm 29 years old, mom of two. recovery. I'm 29 years old, mom of two. I've been weight training 5 days a week I've been weight training 5 days a week I've been weight training 5 days a week for eight years. What are some tips on for eight years. What are some tips on for eight years. What are some tips on structuring my week so I can do it all? structuring my week so I can do it all? structuring my week so I can do it all? >> You can't Yeah, you need to reduce the >> You can't Yeah, you need to reduce the >> You can't Yeah, you need to reduce the >> You can't do it all. >> You can't do it all. >> You can't do it all. >> Cycling. So, so spin is uh very um >> Cycling. So, so spin is uh very um >> Cycling. So, so spin is uh very um >> intense, >> intense, >> intense, >> very intense, lots of stress on the >> very intense, lots of stress on the >> very intense, lots of stress on the body. body. body. >> Uh MAP's anabolic. Even if you do the >> Uh MAP's anabolic. Even if you do the >> Uh MAP's anabolic. Even if you do the two week uh a two-day a week version, two week uh a two-day a week version, two week uh a two-day a week version, you're now competing strong endurance you're now competing strong endurance you're now competing strong endurance signal signal signal >> from spin, which spin is intense. It's >> from spin, which spin is intense. It's >> from spin, which spin is intense. It's not like just a leisurely bike ride. Um not like just a leisurely bike ride. Um not like just a leisurely bike ride. Um with MAPS, it's not going to work. It's with MAPS, it's not going to work. It's with MAPS, it's not going to work. It's just not going to work. Uh you might be just not going to work. Uh you might be just not going to work. Uh you might be able to get away with MAPS 15 or one day able to get away with MAPS 15 or one day able to get away with MAPS 15 or one day a week uh of MAPS anabolic uh and then a week uh of MAPS anabolic uh and then a week uh of MAPS anabolic uh and then feed your body. feed your body. feed your body. >> Yeah. and feed and no more stuff. That's >> Yeah. and feed and no more stuff. That's >> Yeah. and feed and no more stuff. That's it. Three days a week of spin, one day a it. Three days a week of spin, one day a it. Three days a week of spin, one day a week of strength training, or three days week of strength training, or three days week of strength training, or three days a week of spin, mass 15. Um, and make a week of spin, mass 15. Um, and make a week of spin, mass 15. Um, and make sure you hit your protein targets sure you hit your protein targets sure you hit your protein targets >> or less spin and more anablock. >> or less spin and more anablock. >> or less spin and more anablock. >> That's it. Yeah, but she's trying to be >> That's it. Yeah, but she's trying to be >> That's it. Yeah, but she's trying to be a spin instructor. So, I'm sure that's a spin instructor. So, I'm sure that's a spin instructor. So, I'm sure that's not that's not going to happen. So, this not that's not going to happen. So, this not that's not going to happen. So, this is I mean the for this person who's is I mean the for this person who's is I mean the for this person who's going to be a spin instructor, going to be a spin instructor, going to be a spin instructor, >> uh, your strength training routine is >> uh, your strength training routine is >> uh, your strength training routine is going to be one day a week or maybe 15, going to be one day a week or maybe 15, going to be one day a week or maybe 15, right? I mean, that's most likely if right? I mean, that's most likely if right? I mean, that's most likely if you're going to be doing three or more you're going to be doing three or more you're going to be doing three or more days of teaching spin and doing spin, days of teaching spin and doing spin, days of teaching spin and doing spin, uh, you only really need one day of uh, you only really need one day of uh, you only really need one day of strength training or one day broken up strength training or one day broken up strength training or one day broken up over over over >> the hardest the the the people that I >> the hardest the the the people that I >> the hardest the the the people that I had working in my gym that had the had working in my gym that had the had working in my gym that had the toughest time toughest time toughest time >> building muscle were my spin >> building muscle were my spin >> building muscle were my spin instructors. instructors. instructors. >> They all had and and why? Because they >> They all had and and why? Because they >> They all had and and why? Because they would teach so many classes. would teach so many classes. would teach so many classes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Three, four classes a week, five classes >> Three, four classes a week, five classes >> Three, four classes a week, five classes up that volume. up that volume. up that volume. >> And if you've ever done a spin class, >> And if you've ever done a spin class, >> And if you've ever done a spin class, it's like it's all hype, motivation, it's like it's all hype, motivation, it's like it's all hype, motivation, intensity. That's that's what they're intensity. That's that's what they're intensity. That's that's what they're all about. It's uh it's like go push all about. It's uh it's like go push all about. It's uh it's like go push whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Um and combining that with a bunch of >> Um and combining that with a bunch of >> Um and combining that with a bunch of strength trainings, it's not going to strength trainings, it's not going to strength trainings, it's not going to work. work. work. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Next question is from Midwest >> Next question is from Midwest >> Next question is from Midwest Sweetheart. Do I have a higher caloric Sweetheart. Do I have a higher caloric Sweetheart. Do I have a higher caloric need as a full-time mom of a 2-year-old, need as a full-time mom of a 2-year-old, need as a full-time mom of a 2-year-old, or is stress just sabotaging my goals? or is stress just sabotaging my goals? or is stress just sabotaging my goals? >> Well, so if you're not getting your >> Well, so if you're not getting your >> Well, so if you're not getting your goals and your question is, uh I'm not goals and your question is, uh I'm not goals and your question is, uh I'm not hitting my goals, is it because I need hitting my goals, is it because I need hitting my goals, is it because I need to eat more? Is it because I need to do to eat more? Is it because I need to do to eat more? Is it because I need to do less? Um I would need more information. less? Um I would need more information. less? Um I would need more information. say, "I need more info to give you a say, "I need more info to give you a say, "I need more info to give you a good answer." good answer." good answer." >> I would need more information, but the >> I would need more information, but the >> I would need more information, but the fact that you're asking this question fact that you're asking this question fact that you're asking this question tells me that you probably do need to tells me that you probably do need to tells me that you probably do need to eat more and do a little less. So, it it eat more and do a little less. So, it it eat more and do a little less. So, it it typically when I'm training, uh, or typically when I'm training, uh, or typically when I'm training, uh, or working with a full-time mom, uh, who's working with a full-time mom, uh, who's working with a full-time mom, uh, who's coming to me and saying, "Man, I have a coming to me and saying, "Man, I have a coming to me and saying, "Man, I have a lot of stress. Uh, you know, what do I lot of stress. Uh, you know, what do I lot of stress. Uh, you know, what do I need to do?" Your strength training need to do?" Your strength training need to do?" Your strength training routine would look like mass 15. Um, and routine would look like mass 15. Um, and routine would look like mass 15. Um, and I'd make sure you hit your protein I'd make sure you hit your protein I'd make sure you hit your protein targets and then walk. Um, and no targets and then walk. Um, and no targets and then walk. Um, and no additional like crazy workout stuff. Um, additional like crazy workout stuff. Um, additional like crazy workout stuff. Um, and you'll know it's working because and you'll know it's working because and you'll know it's working because you're getting stronger. you're getting stronger. you're getting stronger. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You feel good. >> You feel good. >> You feel good. >> That I mean that's the best advice based >> That I mean that's the best advice based >> That I mean that's the best advice based off of the information we got that we're off of the information we got that we're off of the information we got that we're getting right now. Cuz obviously like getting right now. Cuz obviously like getting right now. Cuz obviously like >> um if her goal was to lose weight, then >> um if her goal was to lose weight, then >> um if her goal was to lose weight, then maybe it's and she's not hitting her maybe it's and she's not hitting her maybe it's and she's not hitting her goals. Maybe it has nothing to do with goals. Maybe it has nothing to do with goals. Maybe it has nothing to do with eating more calories. But if you're eating more calories. But if you're eating more calories. But if you're having if your goals are to build having if your goals are to build having if your goals are to build strength and build muscle and you're strength and build muscle and you're strength and build muscle and you're not, then most likely you need to be fed not, then most likely you need to be fed not, then most likely you need to be fed more or reduce the the stress by like a more or reduce the the stress by like a more or reduce the the stress by like a MAPS 15 program versus something that's MAPS 15 program versus something that's MAPS 15 program versus something that's higher volume and intensity. So I think higher volume and intensity. So I think higher volume and intensity. So I think the way you said it is the best we can the way you said it is the best we can the way you said it is the best we can with what we got. with what we got. with what we got. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Next question is from Justin JD99. What >> Next question is from Justin JD99. What >> Next question is from Justin JD99. What is your advice on a blue collar maps is your advice on a blue collar maps is your advice on a blue collar maps program? maps 15 works great, but I program? maps 15 works great, but I program? maps 15 works great, but I wonder if a powerlifting/performance wonder if a powerlifting/performance wonder if a powerlifting/performance mix would be a better approach to help mix would be a better approach to help mix would be a better approach to help day-to-day construction life. day-to-day construction life. day-to-day construction life. >> Well, you're in luck. >> Well, you're in luck. >> Well, you're in luck. >> We have we have 15-minute versions of >> We have we have 15-minute versions of >> We have we have 15-minute versions of that. that. that. >> We have MAPS 15 performance. >> We have MAPS 15 performance. >> We have MAPS 15 performance. >> Sure. If you know, >> Sure. If you know, >> Sure. If you know, >> and Mass 15 powerlift, >> and Mass 15 powerlift, >> and Mass 15 powerlift, >> uh MAPS grade 8 would be another uh good >> uh MAPS grade 8 would be another uh good >> uh MAPS grade 8 would be another uh good option for you. Um for people, you know, option for you. Um for people, you know, option for you. Um for people, you know, bluecollar uh workers are very active. bluecollar uh workers are very active. bluecollar uh workers are very active. Um and so they rarely need more, you Um and so they rarely need more, you Um and so they rarely need more, you know, activity, but strength training is know, activity, but strength training is know, activity, but strength training is a good idea. Believe it or not, this is a good idea. Believe it or not, this is a good idea. Believe it or not, this is not that much different than answering not that much different than answering not that much different than answering the question regarding the spin the question regarding the spin the question regarding the spin instructor that thinks they need to do instructor that thinks they need to do instructor that thinks they need to do more. Like, uh, you're already a very more. Like, uh, you're already a very more. Like, uh, you're already a very active person doing physical labor. Uh, active person doing physical labor. Uh, active person doing physical labor. Uh, you don't need to send a super loud you don't need to send a super loud you don't need to send a super loud signal to build muscle. And if you push signal to build muscle. And if you push signal to build muscle. And if you push it too much, you're more likely to get it too much, you're more likely to get it too much, you're more likely to get trapped in that kind of recovery state trapped in that kind of recovery state trapped in that kind of recovery state that S always talks about versus that S always talks about versus that S always talks about versus actually adapting and growing and actually adapting and growing and actually adapting and growing and building muscle. And so, a MAP 15 building muscle. And so, a MAP 15 building muscle. And so, a MAP 15 protocol is probably the protocol I protocol is probably the protocol I protocol is probably the protocol I would keep this person in. and then would keep this person in. and then would keep this person in. and then cycle through the different programs and cycle through the different programs and cycle through the different programs and we have a powerlifting one and a we have a powerlifting one and a we have a powerlifting one and a performance one. performance one. performance one. >> Yeah. And you can even venture to try >> Yeah. And you can even venture to try >> Yeah. And you can even venture to try like the the symmetry 15 only because a like the the symmetry 15 only because a like the the symmetry 15 only because a lot of times lot of times lot of times >> there's overuse uh you know within some >> there's overuse uh you know within some >> there's overuse uh you know within some of these trades where you're getting a of these trades where you're getting a of these trades where you're getting a lot of activity just on one side and to lot of activity just on one side and to lot of activity just on one side and to kind of address that and balance that kind of address that and balance that kind of address that and balance that out with symmetry would be a good idea. out with symmetry would be a good idea. out with symmetry would be a good idea. >> Next question is from Big Rigs gym gal. >> Next question is from Big Rigs gym gal. >> Next question is from Big Rigs gym gal. How do you stop the cycle of constantly How do you stop the cycle of constantly How do you stop the cycle of constantly starting and stopping if you're just starting and stopping if you're just starting and stopping if you're just bored with the workouts or one day of bored with the workouts or one day of bored with the workouts or one day of skipping cascades into weeks or months? skipping cascades into weeks or months? skipping cascades into weeks or months? >> Typically, this is because you're doing >> Typically, this is because you're doing >> Typically, this is because you're doing too much too soon. Uh and and that's why too much too soon. Uh and and that's why too much too soon. Uh and and that's why you're stopping. Um also, I want to just you're stopping. Um also, I want to just you're stopping. Um also, I want to just encourage people like um yeah, it's good encourage people like um yeah, it's good encourage people like um yeah, it's good to follow a structured program, to follow a structured program, to follow a structured program, especially if it's well programmed. Uh especially if it's well programmed. Uh especially if it's well programmed. Uh but second place is just working out. Uh but second place is just working out. Uh but second place is just working out. Uh so long as you're not doing things that so long as you're not doing things that so long as you're not doing things that are going to hurt you. So, if you're are going to hurt you. So, if you're are going to hurt you. So, if you're like, "I'm bored with today's workout. like, "I'm bored with today's workout. like, "I'm bored with today's workout. I'm looking at my today's workout and I'm looking at my today's workout and I'm looking at my today's workout and I'm bored." Okay. Uh you could either I'm bored." Okay. Uh you could either I'm bored." Okay. Uh you could either not work out or just do something else. not work out or just do something else. not work out or just do something else. Even if it's not ideal, you're doing Even if it's not ideal, you're doing Even if it's not ideal, you're doing something. Yeah. Think to yourself like, something. Yeah. Think to yourself like, something. Yeah. Think to yourself like, "What would I enjoy doing? I'm at the "What would I enjoy doing? I'm at the "What would I enjoy doing? I'm at the gym or I'm going to go to the gym today. gym or I'm going to go to the gym today. gym or I'm going to go to the gym today. I'm supposed to squat. I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to squat. I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to squat. I'm supposed to, you know, Romanian deadlift. I'm you know, Romanian deadlift. I'm you know, Romanian deadlift. I'm supposed to bench press and I'm bored of supposed to bench press and I'm bored of supposed to bench press and I'm bored of doing that. What should I do?" Go in doing that. What should I do?" Go in doing that. What should I do?" Go in there and do something you enjoy. Uh there and do something you enjoy. Uh there and do something you enjoy. Uh rather than skipping. I like what you rather than skipping. I like what you rather than skipping. I like what you said first because I think this tends to said first because I think this tends to said first because I think this tends to be the more common thing with someone be the more common thing with someone be the more common thing with someone who says a statement like this where uh who says a statement like this where uh who says a statement like this where uh you're you're kind of all you're always you're you're kind of all you're always you're you're kind of all you're always you're all you're all in or you're all you're all you're all in or you're all you're all you're all in or you're all out type of deal. Uh is what typically out type of deal. Uh is what typically out type of deal. Uh is what typically happens. Like you're motivated and so happens. Like you're motivated and so happens. Like you're motivated and so you're training 5 days a week type of you're training 5 days a week type of you're training 5 days a week type of deal and then you're not motivated so deal and then you're not motivated so deal and then you're not motivated so you skip a day or miss it two days and you skip a day or miss it two days and you skip a day or miss it two days and then that two days turns into weeks and then that two days turns into weeks and then that two days turns into weeks and you're off the wagon again. You're on you're off the wagon again. You're on you're off the wagon again. You're on and off. And a lot of times that's just and off. And a lot of times that's just and off. And a lot of times that's just overcommitting yourself to too much too overcommitting yourself to too much too overcommitting yourself to too much too soon. So instead of being on or off and soon. So instead of being on or off and soon. So instead of being on or off and on looks like all these days working on looks like all these days working on looks like all these days working out, it's like you just become the out, it's like you just become the out, it's like you just become the person that you know what I'm going to person that you know what I'm going to person that you know what I'm going to make sure I squat every week at least make sure I squat every week at least make sure I squat every week at least one time, you know, for five sets or one time, you know, for five sets or one time, you know, for five sets or something like and like to your point, something like and like to your point, something like and like to your point, it doesn't pick whatever you want. Pick it doesn't pick whatever you want. Pick it doesn't pick whatever you want. Pick pick an exercise that you enjoy doing pick an exercise that you enjoy doing pick an exercise that you enjoy doing and become the person that always just and become the person that always just and become the person that always just does that thing and then be consistent does that thing and then be consistent does that thing and then be consistent with that and then add another thing and with that and then add another thing and with that and then add another thing and then add another thing. I think we tend then add another thing. I think we tend then add another thing. I think we tend to do this like because we're motivated to do this like because we're motivated to do this like because we're motivated right now. We do as much as we can and right now. We do as much as we can and right now. We do as much as we can and that's unrealistic for you to keep that that's unrealistic for you to keep that that's unrealistic for you to keep that momentum and consistency and so build momentum and consistency and so build momentum and consistency and so build something that is something you can be something that is something you can be something that is something you can be very consistent and then build on that very consistent and then build on that very consistent and then build on that uh I think is a better strategy than the uh I think is a better strategy than the uh I think is a better strategy than the all all or nothing. All right, I know all all or nothing. All right, I know all all or nothing. All right, I know you like that episode. If you did, check you like that episode. If you did, check you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. Shredded, ripped, defined this one out. Shredded, ripped, defined this one out. Shredded, ripped, defined singledigit body fat. singledigit body fat. singledigit body fat. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about it. M difficult and is it worth it? it. M difficult and is it worth it? it. M difficult and is it worth it? That's a follow-up question. That's a follow-up question. That's a follow-up question. >> Yeah. First off, we got to say that >> Yeah. First off, we got to say that >> Yeah. First off, we got to say that okay, so single-digit body fat, okay, so single-digit body fat, okay, so single-digit body fat, obviously body fat percentages, uh that obviously body fat percentages, uh that obviously body fat percentages, uh that could be represented by one digit like could be represented by one digit like could be represented by one digit like 3%, 5%, 6%, 9%. That's uh ripped for 3%, 5%, 6%, 9%. That's uh ripped for 3%, 5%, 6%, 9%. That's uh ripped for men. For women, men. For women, men. For women, >> add 10%. >> add 10%. >> add 10%. >> Yeah. Don't Yeah, exactly. Go you go up >> Yeah. Don't Yeah, exactly. Go you go up >> Yeah. Don't Yeah, exactly. Go you go up about