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The $2 Trillion Reason We Just Attacked Iran—Follow the Money.

This emergency episode analyzes the U. S. strikes against Iran in February 2026. The hosts argue this is 'economics gone kinetic'—Trump's $2 trillion Middle...

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Key Takeaway

Economics just went kinetic. Trump secured $2 trillion in Middle East investments, but Iran threatens the Strait of Hormuz—which carries 31% of global seaborne oil. No stable region, no investment. This isn't Iraq 2.0. Trump will destabilize Iran through airstrikes and empower internal uprising rather than deploy ground troops. The window to act is closing as Iran buries nuclear infrastructure deeper underground. Understand this through economics, not morality—powerful nations do what they can, weak nations suffer what they must.

Episode Overview

This emergency episode analyzes the U.S. strikes against Iran in February 2026. The hosts argue this is 'economics gone kinetic'—Trump's $2 trillion Middle East investment deals require regional stability, but Iran threatens the Strait of Hormuz (31% of global oil flows). The episode examines five motivations: (1) protecting Gulf investments (35%), (2) preventing nuclear breakout (25%), (3) Israeli alliance management (20%), (4) opportunistic regime change (15%), and (5) domestic politics (5%). The hosts emphasize Trump won't deploy ground troops but will use airstrikes to empower Iranian uprising, similar to Venezuela. They frame this as great power competition with China as the hidden backdrop, not a simple U.S.-Israel versus Iran conflict.

Main Insights

Follow the Money: Economics Drive Warfare

The strike timing centers on Trump's $2 trillion Middle East investment commitments (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE). Iran can disrupt the Strait of Hormuz at will—threatening 31% of global oil flows. Investors won't commit to 10-year deals if regional instability looms. Removing Iran as an economic risk makes Trump's entire economic agenda viable.

Trump's Playbook: Selfish and Pragmatic Power Politics

Trump operates through a consistent pattern: offer negotiation first, then overwhelming force if refused, followed by renewed negotiation. Venezuela provides the template—no ground troops, just destabilization that empowers internal regime change. Trump knows boots on the ground guarantees midterm losses, so he'll stay at 30,000 feet while claiming victory.

Narrative Warfare: Nuclear Threat Is Real But Tertiary

While Iran's nuclear program is genuine (they fortified deep underground facilities and can potentially produce weapons-grade uranium quickly), it's only the third priority. The media focus on nuclear weapons provides moral cover for economic and strategic objectives. The hosts mock the '15,000-year-old Israeli artifact' claiming Iran is always 'one week away' from nuclear weapons.

Closing Windows Create Urgency

Multiple timelines converge: Trump faces 2026 midterms, Netanyahu's political survival is limited, Iran's popular uprising provided moral cover, and Iran's nuclear facilities are getting harder to strike as they move underground. Acting now allows conventional strikes before options narrow to either ground invasion or acceptance of a nuclear Iran.

AI Transforms Modern Warfare Into Precision Targeting

The 'spawn camping' of Iran's Supreme Leader replacement (killed hours after appointment) demonstrates AI-enabled targeting precision. Modern surveillance and AI allow unprecedented ability to track and eliminate individuals repeatedly. This fundamentally changes warfare from territorial control to decapitation strikes.

China Is the Hidden Player Behind Everything

This is fundamentally about U.S.-China competition, not just Middle East dynamics. Success in Venezuela damaged China's influence. Iran represents another proxy battle. Trump is pulling Gulf sovereign wealth away from Chinese investment channels. Understanding China as the backdrop explains why these actions happen now.

Notable Quotes

"Economics just went kinetic as the US has launched a war against Iran"

Tom Bilyeu

"Trump is selfish and pragmatic. If you understand him through that lens, the way that he's going to handle Iran is going to make a lot more sense."

Tom Bilyeu

"You cannot build a $2 trillion economic architecture in the Gulf while the biggest military threat to Gulf stability sits across the water with ballistic missiles, proxy armies, and a credible nuclear breakout capability."

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"The powerful will do as they will and the weak will suffer as they must."

Tom Bilyeu

"Trump himself has said basically anybody that says that [Israel controls US] just is totally ignorant to how geopolitics actually works. This is an economic game."

Tom Bilyeu

Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.

  • 1
    Understand Events Through Economic Incentives, Not Moral Narratives

    When analyzing geopolitics, first ask 'what are the economic motivations?' rather than accepting stated moral justifications. Countries act to improve their economic position—warfare is economics by other means. Map every major decision to economic incentives to predict behavior accurately.

  • 2
    Recognize Information Warfare During Real-Time Events

    In fog-of-war situations, assume you're being manipulated by propaganda from all sides. What you believe true on day three may be false by day six. Hold beliefs loosely, update frequently as data arrives, and recognize AI is flooding channels with disinformation. Focus on incentive structures rather than stated reasons.

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    Apply 'Closing Window' Framework to Your Own Decision-Making

    Major strategic moves happen when multiple favorable conditions align simultaneously but won't last. Identify when you have: (1) moral/narrative cover, (2) stakeholder alignment, (3) resource availability, and (4) limited time before conditions change. Like Trump waiting for Iranian uprising before striking, wait for opportunistic moments rather than forcing issues prematurely.

  • 4
    Study Great Power Competition as Hidden Context

    Most major geopolitical events have a great power competition backdrop (currently U.S.-China). Train yourself to ask: 'How does this move affect U.S.-China dynamics?' This reveals hidden motivations invisible when viewing events in isolation. Venezuela and Iran both represent proxy battles in this larger context.

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Everybody, welcome to the Tom Billy Show Everybody, welcome to the Tom Billy Show live. Today is going to be a very live. Today is going to be a very live. Today is going to be a very intense, very weird day. Needless to intense, very weird day. Needless to intense, very weird day. Needless to say, we're going to be talking all about say, we're going to be talking all about say, we're going to be talking all about Iran, what is going on through different Iran, what is going on through different Iran, what is going on through different lenses, understanding how deep is this lenses, understanding how deep is this lenses, understanding how deep is this going to go, how long is this going to going to go, how long is this going to going to go, how long is this going to go for, all of the above. If you guys um go for, all of the above. If you guys um go for, all of the above. If you guys um have been somehow living under a rock, have been somehow living under a rock, have been somehow living under a rock, uh we launched a strike against Iran uh we launched a strike against Iran uh we launched a strike against Iran late on Friday um early Saturday morning late on Friday um early Saturday morning late on Friday um early Saturday morning their time. All hell has uh broken their time. All hell has uh broken their time. All hell has uh broken loose. You've got Iran launching counter loose. You've got Iran launching counter loose. You've got Iran launching counter strikes against much of the Middle East. strikes against much of the Middle East. strikes against much of the Middle East. Even European bases are coming under Even European bases are coming under Even European bases are coming under attack. Uh Dubai is getting it. There attack. Uh Dubai is getting it. There attack. Uh Dubai is getting it. There were reports that Abu Dhabi was getting were reports that Abu Dhabi was getting were reports that Abu Dhabi was getting hit. I'm not sure about the veracity of hit. I'm not sure about the veracity of hit. I'm not sure about the veracity of those, but there is plenty of footage of those, but there is plenty of footage of those, but there is plenty of footage of um places being hit all across the um places being hit all across the um places being hit all across the Middle East. Um so this is going to be a Middle East. Um so this is going to be a Middle East. Um so this is going to be a wild time. Definitely uh one to buckle wild time. Definitely uh one to buckle wild time. Definitely uh one to buckle in and strap in for because this is in and strap in for because this is in and strap in for because this is going to get worse long before it gets going to get worse long before it gets going to get worse long before it gets better. So, um, one of the things that I better. So, um, one of the things that I better. So, um, one of the things that I really want to spend time on today is really want to spend time on today is really want to spend time on today is understanding why this is happening. understanding why this is happening. understanding why this is happening. There's going to be a ton of messaging There's going to be a ton of messaging There's going to be a ton of messaging around this that I think is going to around this that I think is going to around this that I think is going to bamboozle people. It's going to pull bamboozle people. It's going to pull bamboozle people. It's going to pull their eye away from what's really their eye away from what's really their eye away from what's really happening. But before we begin, happening. But before we begin, happening. But before we begin, gentlemen, welcome. gentlemen, welcome. gentlemen, welcome. >> Good morning. >> Good morning. >> Good morning. >> This is obviously uh a big day in the >> This is obviously uh a big day in the >> This is obviously uh a big day in the world um for everybody. So, appreciate world um for everybody. So, appreciate world um for everybody. So, appreciate you guys coming in. I know you guys were you guys coming in. I know you guys were you guys coming in. I know you guys were paying attention uh over the weekend as paying attention uh over the weekend as paying attention uh over the weekend as to what was happening. And so we've to what was happening. And so we've to what was happening. And so we've spent all weekend putting this episode spent all weekend putting this episode spent all weekend putting this episode together. To everybody that's here together. To everybody that's here together. To everybody that's here showing up that trusts us to walk showing up that trusts us to walk showing up that trusts us to walk through this uh in a way that is through this uh in a way that is through this uh in a way that is hopefully purely cause and effect based, hopefully purely cause and effect based, hopefully purely cause and effect based, we appreciate that very much. Uh and so we appreciate that very much. Uh and so we appreciate that very much. Uh and so yeah, we're going to get into it. yeah, we're going to get into it. yeah, we're going to get into it. >> Um all right, Mr. No New Wars has got us >> Um all right, Mr. No New Wars has got us >> Um all right, Mr. No New Wars has got us in what seems like another war. Um in what seems like another war. Um in what seems like another war. Um before we make judgment, how do we get before we make judgment, how do we get before we make judgment, how do we get here? Walk us through it. What's really here? Walk us through it. What's really here? Walk us through it. What's really going on with us in Iran? Yeah. So the going on with us in Iran? Yeah. So the going on with us in Iran? Yeah. So the way to think about this is economics way to think about this is economics way to think about this is economics just went kinetic as the US has launched just went kinetic as the US has launched just went kinetic as the US has launched a war against Iran, America, Israel, UK, a war against Iran, America, Israel, UK, a war against Iran, America, Israel, UK, France, and a massive swath of the France, and a massive swath of the France, and a massive swath of the Middle East are now at war. The only Middle East are now at war. The only Middle East are now at war. The only question is how big does it get? How question is how big does it get? How question is how big does it get? How long does it go on for? To understand long does it go on for? To understand long does it go on for? To understand that though, we have to understand what that though, we have to understand what that though, we have to understand what is actually going on. Because as always is actually going on. Because as always is actually going on. Because as always with these things, people are getting with these things, people are getting with these things, people are getting distracted by messaging around this. AI distracted by messaging around this. AI distracted by messaging around this. AI is throwing a ton of lies into the mix. is throwing a ton of lies into the mix. is throwing a ton of lies into the mix. There is so much propaganda. It is very There is so much propaganda. It is very There is so much propaganda. It is very difficult to figure out what is real, difficult to figure out what is real, difficult to figure out what is real, what's not. This is all fog of war. This what's not. This is all fog of war. This what's not. This is all fog of war. This is happening in real time. So, everybody is happening in real time. So, everybody is happening in real time. So, everybody needs to have their wits about them to needs to have their wits about them to needs to have their wits about them to understand. Just because we believe understand. Just because we believe understand. Just because we believe something was true on day three does not something was true on day three does not something was true on day three does not mean that it's going to be true on day mean that it's going to be true on day mean that it's going to be true on day five and six. We have to let the data five and six. We have to let the data five and six. We have to let the data continue to roll in. But understand that continue to roll in. But understand that continue to roll in. But understand that you are in the middle of an information you are in the middle of an information you are in the middle of an information landscape that is all about fighting a landscape that is all about fighting a landscape that is all about fighting a battle on that front as well. Getting battle on that front as well. Getting battle on that front as well. Getting people to believe things from the people to believe things from the people to believe things from the perspective of whatever country is perspective of whatever country is perspective of whatever country is laying things out. So, uh, keep that in laying things out. So, uh, keep that in laying things out. So, uh, keep that in mind as we go through all of this. Now, mind as we go through all of this. Now, mind as we go through all of this. Now, I will say this is not Iraq 2.0. I will say this is not Iraq 2.0. I will say this is not Iraq 2.0. Trump will leave Iran in total chaos Trump will leave Iran in total chaos Trump will leave Iran in total chaos before he puts boots on the ground. So before he puts boots on the ground. So before he puts boots on the ground. So anybody that has that level of concern, anybody that has that level of concern, anybody that has that level of concern, I would say that is not where this is I would say that is not where this is I would say that is not where this is going to head. If you look at what he going to head. If you look at what he going to head. If you look at what he said to the Iranian people, this is said to the Iranian people, this is said to the Iranian people, this is words, this is a paraphrase, but it's words, this is a paraphrase, but it's words, this is a paraphrase, but it's pretty close. This is your chance to pretty close. This is your chance to pretty close. This is your chance to rise up and take your country back. If rise up and take your country back. If rise up and take your country back. If you look at what he did in Venezuela, you look at what he did in Venezuela, you look at what he did in Venezuela, this was not about him going in and this was not about him going in and this was not about him going in and putting boots on the ground. Now, I putting boots on the ground. Now, I putting boots on the ground. Now, I think this is going to play out very think this is going to play out very think this is going to play out very differently than Venezuela. Iran and differently than Venezuela. Iran and differently than Venezuela. Iran and Venezuela are two very different Venezuela are two very different Venezuela are two very different animals. However, what I want people to animals. However, what I want people to animals. However, what I want people to understand is how differently Trump understand is how differently Trump understand is how differently Trump moves when it comes to these kinds of moves when it comes to these kinds of moves when it comes to these kinds of attacks. attacks. attacks. Trump is selfish and pragmatic. Trump is selfish and pragmatic. Trump is selfish and pragmatic. If you understand him through that lens, If you understand him through that lens, If you understand him through that lens, the way that he's going to handle Iran the way that he's going to handle Iran the way that he's going to handle Iran is going to make a lot more sense. He is going to make a lot more sense. He is going to make a lot more sense. He knows he is guaranteed a loss in the knows he is guaranteed a loss in the knows he is guaranteed a loss in the midterms if he gets drugged into putting midterms if he gets drugged into putting midterms if he gets drugged into putting troops on the ground. Okay, that that is troops on the ground. Okay, that that is troops on the ground. Okay, that that is going to be a hard line. You've already going to be a hard line. You've already going to be a hard line. You've already had uh Vice President Vance coming out had uh Vice President Vance coming out had uh Vice President Vance coming out and saying there's no universe in which and saying there's no universe in which and saying there's no universe in which that happens. These guys have played that happens. These guys have played that happens. These guys have played this out and you don't have to like this out and you don't have to like this out and you don't have to like what's going on there to understand that what's going on there to understand that what's going on there to understand that the attack on this isn't going to be the attack on this isn't going to be the attack on this isn't going to be don't get sucked into Iraq 2.0. That don't get sucked into Iraq 2.0. That don't get sucked into Iraq 2.0. That lesson I think has been learned by lesson I think has been learned by lesson I think has been learned by everybody else. This is a very different everybody else. This is a very different everybody else. This is a very different setup. This is going to play out setup. This is going to play out setup. This is going to play out incredibly differently. Now, will Israel incredibly differently. Now, will Israel incredibly differently. Now, will Israel put boots on the ground? That's far more put boots on the ground? That's far more put boots on the ground? That's far more believable. Trump is going to claim believable. Trump is going to claim believable. Trump is going to claim victory while staying at 30,000 feet as victory while staying at 30,000 feet as victory while staying at 30,000 feet as long as, and this is narrative warfare, long as, and this is narrative warfare, long as, and this is narrative warfare, as long as he can say that he set back as long as he can say that he set back as long as he can say that he set back their nuclear ambitions. They are going their nuclear ambitions. They are going their nuclear ambitions. They are going to try to get you to look endlessly at to try to get you to look endlessly at to try to get you to look endlessly at this is about nuclear war with Iran and this is about nuclear war with Iran and this is about nuclear war with Iran and making sure that they never get a making sure that they never get a making sure that they never get a nuclear weapon. And that's real, but nuclear weapon. And that's real, but nuclear weapon. And that's real, but we're going to get into where that plays we're going to get into where that plays we're going to get into where that plays out. It is certainly not the first thing out. It is certainly not the first thing out. It is certainly not the first thing on the US's mind as they go into this. on the US's mind as they go into this. on the US's mind as they go into this. it's not the first thing on the mind of it's not the first thing on the mind of it's not the first thing on the mind of the people in the Middle East. the people in the Middle East. the people in the Middle East. That's going to be maybe in third That's going to be maybe in third That's going to be maybe in third position. So no matter how much you hear position. So no matter how much you hear position. So no matter how much you hear about that, you've got to keep your eye about that, you've got to keep your eye about that, you've got to keep your eye on what the real pieces are. And the on what the real pieces are. And the on what the real pieces are. And the reason that I started this by saying reason that I started this by saying reason that I started this by saying economics has gone kinetic is if you try economics has gone kinetic is if you try economics has gone kinetic is if you try to trace this all through cause and to trace this all through cause and to trace this all through cause and effect. If you think of from first effect. If you think of from first effect. If you think of from first principles, what motivates people to do principles, what motivates people to do principles, what motivates people to do the kinds of things that we're seeing the kinds of things that we're seeing the kinds of things that we're seeing the US do, that we're seeing the um the US do, that we're seeing the um the US do, that we're seeing the um Iranians do, the people of Iran versus Iranians do, the people of Iran versus Iranians do, the people of Iran versus the regime of Iran, how the regime of the regime of Iran, how the regime of the regime of Iran, how the regime of Iran will kill its own people, how the Iran will kill its own people, how the Iran will kill its own people, how the people of Iran are willing to rise up. people of Iran are willing to rise up. people of Iran are willing to rise up. You're seeing in the US, in New York, You're seeing in the US, in New York, You're seeing in the US, in New York, you're seeing American flags waved by you're seeing American flags waved by you're seeing American flags waved by Iranian people. Uh, Israel flags being Iranian people. Uh, Israel flags being Iranian people. Uh, Israel flags being waved by Iranian people in Iran because waved by Iranian people in Iran because waved by Iranian people in Iran because the people of Iran see this very the people of Iran see this very the people of Iran see this very differently than the messaging would differently than the messaging would differently than the messaging would have you believe. Okay. So, putting all have you believe. Okay. So, putting all have you believe. Okay. So, putting all the things on the table, I think that the things on the table, I think that the things on the table, I think that there are five things that are at play there are five things that are at play there are five things that are at play here. I'm going to put them in rank here. I'm going to put them in rank here. I'm going to put them in rank order. I'm even going to assign them order. I'm even going to assign them order. I'm even going to assign them rough percentages of right now, as of rough percentages of right now, as of rough percentages of right now, as of today, what I think really motivated the today, what I think really motivated the today, what I think really motivated the actions of Trump, the actions of Israel, actions of Trump, the actions of Israel, actions of Trump, the actions of Israel, the actions of the Middle East, who are the actions of the Middle East, who are the actions of the Middle East, who are almost certainly telling us privately, almost certainly telling us privately, almost certainly telling us privately, hey, we support what you're doing hey, we support what you're doing hey, we support what you're doing publicly. We have to message this publicly. We have to message this publicly. We have to message this differently. Which is why they were differently. Which is why they were differently. Which is why they were attacked because Iran's not stupid. They attacked because Iran's not stupid. They attacked because Iran's not stupid. They know that's what's going on. And it's know that's what's going on. And it's know that's what's going on. And it's why they're now like, all right, well, why they're now like, all right, well, why they're now like, all right, well, if you want us in the mix, then we'll if you want us in the mix, then we'll if you want us in the mix, then we'll just officially come in the mix. seeing just officially come in the mix. seeing just officially come in the mix. seeing the same thing play out in Europe. You the same thing play out in Europe. You the same thing play out in Europe. You had Kier Stararma first saying, "Yeah, had Kier Stararma first saying, "Yeah, had Kier Stararma first saying, "Yeah, like we're not going to get involved in like we're not going to get involved in like we're not going to get involved in this at all. We're not even going to let this at all. We're not even going to let this at all. We're not even going to let the US uh attack from our soil." And the US uh attack from our soil." And the US uh attack from our soil." And now, of course, they've changed their now, of course, they've changed their now, of course, they've changed their tune on that. We'll get more into that tune on that. We'll get more into that tune on that. We'll get more into that later. All right. The first thing that's later. All right. The first thing that's later. All right. The first thing that's going on right now, the most important going on right now, the most important going on right now, the most important thing, the economic thread that's going thing, the economic thread that's going thing, the economic thread that's going to tie all of this together, the thing to tie all of this together, the thing to tie all of this together, the thing that explains the timing is protecting that explains the timing is protecting that explains the timing is protecting the two trillion dollar in Gulf the two trillion dollar in Gulf the two trillion dollar in Gulf investment commitments. investment commitments. investment commitments. This is the biggest issue for Trump. I'm This is the biggest issue for Trump. I'm This is the biggest issue for Trump. I'm going to round this to 35% of his going to round this to 35% of his going to round this to 35% of his motivation. So, it's not more than half. motivation. So, it's not more than half. motivation. So, it's not more than half. There's many things at play here, but There's many things at play here, but There's many things at play here, but this is the big one. Just follow the this is the big one. Just follow the this is the big one. Just follow the money in the timeline. Trump secured money in the timeline. Trump secured money in the timeline. Trump secured over two trillion dollars in investment over two trillion dollars in investment over two trillion dollars in investment agreements across Saudi Arabia, Qatar, agreements across Saudi Arabia, Qatar, agreements across Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE. Guess who's getting bombed and the UAE. Guess who's getting bombed and the UAE. Guess who's getting bombed by Iran back in May of 2025. These deals by Iran back in May of 2025. These deals by Iran back in May of 2025. These deals are the centerpiece of Trump's economic are the centerpiece of Trump's economic are the centerpiece of Trump's economic agenda. Manufacturing, AI, agenda. Manufacturing, AI, agenda. Manufacturing, AI, infrastructure, defense sales, energy infrastructure, defense sales, energy infrastructure, defense sales, energy development. It's also how he's pulling development. It's also how he's pulling development. It's also how he's pulling Gulf sovereign wealth away from China Gulf sovereign wealth away from China Gulf sovereign wealth away from China and honestly to some degree London and honestly to some degree London and honestly to some degree London managed financial channels that have had managed financial channels that have had managed financial channels that have had their own agenda in the Middle East their own agenda in the Middle East their own agenda in the Middle East since 1901 I believe it was uh when they since 1901 I believe it was uh when they since 1901 I believe it was uh when they first basically confiscated through first basically confiscated through first basically confiscated through negotiations but they essentially negotiations but they essentially negotiations but they essentially confiscated the Iranian future oils. A confiscated the Iranian future oils. A confiscated the Iranian future oils. A lot of people will clock it at 1908 but lot of people will clock it at 1908 but lot of people will clock it at 1908 but that's when the oil was actually that's when the oil was actually that's when the oil was actually discovered. The negotiations I believe discovered. The negotiations I believe discovered. The negotiations I believe happened back in 1901. All right. Now, happened back in 1901. All right. Now, happened back in 1901. All right. Now, here's the problem. About 20 million here's the problem. About 20 million here's the problem. About 20 million barrels of oil transit the straight of barrels of oil transit the straight of barrels of oil transit the straight of Hormuz daily, equaling roughly 31% of Hormuz daily, equaling roughly 31% of Hormuz daily, equaling roughly 31% of all seaborn oil flows. Iran has the all seaborn oil flows. Iran has the all seaborn oil flows. Iran has the ability to threaten or disrupt that ability to threaten or disrupt that ability to threaten or disrupt that choke point at will. This is why the US choke point at will. This is why the US choke point at will. This is why the US has been going after all of their naval has been going after all of their naval has been going after all of their naval ships because they're worried that ships because they're worried that ships because they're worried that they're going to plant mines in the they're going to plant mines in the they're going to plant mines in the straight of Hormuz, causing global straight of Hormuz, causing global straight of Hormuz, causing global disruption. Many analysts have warned disruption. Many analysts have warned disruption. Many analysts have warned that if they're able to disrupt just that if they're able to disrupt just that if they're able to disrupt just that one straight that a global that one straight that a global that one straight that a global recession is all but guaranteed on the recession is all but guaranteed on the recession is all but guaranteed on the back of the disruption to oil prices. back of the disruption to oil prices. back of the disruption to oil prices. All right. Analysts have also warned and All right. Analysts have also warned and All right. Analysts have also warned and this goes back to these investments that this goes back to these investments that this goes back to these investments that Trump has gotten commitments from Trump has gotten commitments from Trump has gotten commitments from that if you've invested in vision 2030 that if you've invested in vision 2030 that if you've invested in vision 2030 projects in Saudi Arabia. Okay, that was projects in Saudi Arabia. Okay, that was projects in Saudi Arabia. Okay, that was their I think they put that forward in their I think they put that forward in their I think they put that forward in 2015 2016 and they were saying, "Hey, by 2015 2016 and they were saying, "Hey, by 2015 2016 and they were saying, "Hey, by 2030 we're going to have migrated much 2030 we're going to have migrated much 2030 we're going to have migrated much of our economy away from oil. That's why of our economy away from oil. That's why of our economy away from oil. That's why they're making such massive investments they're making such massive investments they're making such massive investments into all kinds of tourism related into all kinds of tourism related into all kinds of tourism related sports, gaming, like all kinds of stuff. sports, gaming, like all kinds of stuff. sports, gaming, like all kinds of stuff. And the UAE has sucked up so much of the And the UAE has sucked up so much of the And the UAE has sucked up so much of the wealth in terms of investment dollars. wealth in terms of investment dollars. wealth in terms of investment dollars. And so if you're one of the people And so if you're one of the people And so if you're one of the people that's invested in that those 2030 that's invested in that those 2030 that's invested in that those 2030 projects, then you could face projects, then you could face projects, then you could face disruptions if something is going on in disruptions if something is going on in disruptions if something is going on in the straight of Hormuz. And so that the straight of Hormuz. And so that the straight of Hormuz. And so that creates many layers of concern, not just creates many layers of concern, not just creates many layers of concern, not just export prices, but broader macroeconomic export prices, but broader macroeconomic export prices, but broader macroeconomic and microeconomic consequences for Saudi and microeconomic consequences for Saudi and microeconomic consequences for Saudi Arabia directly and anybody that's enti Arabia directly and anybody that's enti Arabia directly and anybody that's enti that's tied into those investments. Now, that's tied into those investments. Now, that's tied into those investments. Now, you cannot build a $2 trillion economic you cannot build a $2 trillion economic you cannot build a $2 trillion economic architecture in the Gulf, right? If architecture in the Gulf, right? If architecture in the Gulf, right? If you're President Trump, while the you're President Trump, while the you're President Trump, while the biggest military threat to Gulf biggest military threat to Gulf biggest military threat to Gulf stability sits across the water with stability sits across the water with stability sits across the water with ballistic missiles, proxy armies, and a ballistic missiles, proxy armies, and a ballistic missiles, proxy armies, and a credible nuclear breakout capability. credible nuclear breakout capability. credible nuclear breakout capability. The investment deals require the Iran The investment deals require the Iran The investment deals require the Iran threat to be neutralized. You You can't threat to be neutralized. You You can't threat to be neutralized. You You can't just reduce it. You've got to neutralize just reduce it. You've got to neutralize just reduce it. You've got to neutralize it. Otherwise, he's toast. his whole it. Otherwise, he's toast. his whole it. Otherwise, he's toast. his whole economic agenda is the only thing that economic agenda is the only thing that economic agenda is the only thing that he's writing on. The only way that Trump he's writing on. The only way that Trump he's writing on. The only way that Trump can continue to spend recklessly is if can continue to spend recklessly is if can continue to spend recklessly is if he grows. Okay? He knows that. Now, you he grows. Okay? He knows that. Now, you he grows. Okay? He knows that. Now, you can think that he's dumb all you want can think that he's dumb all you want can think that he's dumb all you want for the egregious spending. And I would for the egregious spending. And I would for the egregious spending. And I would be on your team with that, but he has a be on your team with that, but he has a be on your team with that, but he has a strategy and that strategy is growth. strategy and that strategy is growth. strategy and that strategy is growth. That growth is partly reliant on things That growth is partly reliant on things That growth is partly reliant on things going well in the Middle East. And so, going well in the Middle East. And so, going well in the Middle East. And so, you've got one thing that can you've got one thing that can you've got one thing that can destabilize that area. You've got to do destabilize that area. You've got to do destabilize that area. You've got to do something about it. Every sovereign something about it. Every sovereign something about it. Every sovereign wealth fund doing any due diligence on a wealth fund doing any due diligence on a wealth fund doing any due diligence on a 10-year $1.4 trillion commitment to the 10-year $1.4 trillion commitment to the 10-year $1.4 trillion commitment to the US is pricing in the risk that Iran US is pricing in the risk that Iran US is pricing in the risk that Iran could destabilize the entire region. could destabilize the entire region. could destabilize the entire region. These guys are shrewd. I think sometimes These guys are shrewd. I think sometimes These guys are shrewd. I think sometimes we round everybody in the world, the US we round everybody in the world, the US we round everybody in the world, the US and everybody else, as being dumb and and everybody else, as being dumb and and everybody else, as being dumb and we're constantly making these guys are we're constantly making these guys are we're constantly making these guys are just playing checkers and they don't just playing checkers and they don't just playing checkers and they don't know what they're doing. know what they're doing. know what they're doing. If you run a country, you understand If you run a country, you understand If you run a country, you understand that it's economics over everything. that it's economics over everything. that it's economics over everything. Now, that may not be the messaging, but Now, that may not be the messaging, but Now, that may not be the messaging, but you certainly understand that. So, you certainly understand that. So, you certainly understand that. So, removing Iran as an economic risk makes removing Iran as an economic risk makes removing Iran as an economic risk makes those commitments that Trump has those commitments that Trump has those commitments that Trump has secured, let's put that in air quotes, secured, let's put that in air quotes, secured, let's put that in air quotes, dramatically more likely to actually dramatically more likely to actually dramatically more likely to actually materialize. Now, understanding why he materialize. Now, understanding why he materialize. Now, understanding why he feels so much pressure over this is very feels so much pressure over this is very feels so much pressure over this is very important. Now, part of it is because as important. Now, part of it is because as important. Now, part of it is because as the Washington Institute noted, the the Washington Institute noted, the the Washington Institute noted, the actual deal value that so Trump is going actual deal value that so Trump is going actual deal value that so Trump is going to scream about two trillion, 80 to scream about two trillion, 80 to scream about two trillion, 80 trillion, whatever he throws around trillion, whatever he throws around trillion, whatever he throws around absurd numbers, the actual value is absurd numbers, the actual value is absurd numbers, the actual value is almost certainly closer to about 730 almost certainly closer to about 730 almost certainly closer to about 730 billion since many of the commitments billion since many of the commitments billion since many of the commitments are based on non-binding agreements. So are based on non-binding agreements. So are based on non-binding agreements. So he has a much narrow more narrow margin he has a much narrow more narrow margin he has a much narrow more narrow margin to get this economic benefit kicking to get this economic benefit kicking to get this economic benefit kicking off. And getting all of those off. And getting all of those off. And getting all of those commitments to convert into real capital commitments to convert into real capital commitments to convert into real capital flows requires a stable security flows requires a stable security flows requires a stable security environment in the Middle East. environment in the Middle East. environment in the Middle East. Okay. Now, okay, let's talk nuclear Okay. Now, okay, let's talk nuclear Okay. Now, okay, let's talk nuclear breakout. We'll put that in the second breakout. We'll put that in the second breakout. We'll put that in the second position. So, if you look at the the position. So, if you look at the the position. So, if you look at the the focus here, you you've got to prevent focus here, you you've got to prevent focus here, you you've got to prevent this. And I'll call you have a closing this. And I'll call you have a closing this. And I'll call you have a closing window here that we'll say is roughly window here that we'll say is roughly window here that we'll say is roughly 25% of what is being done. What's 25% of what is being done. What's 25% of what is being done. What's motivating this move at this time? It's motivating this move at this time? It's motivating this move at this time? It's a stated reason. It's not fake. This is a stated reason. It's not fake. This is a stated reason. It's not fake. This is real. It's just when you look at the real. It's just when you look at the real. It's just when you look at the timing why now, it's not because they're timing why now, it's not because they're timing why now, it's not because they're one week away. It's because of what we one week away. It's because of what we one week away. It's because of what we just walked through in point number one. just walked through in point number one. just walked through in point number one. To secure those deals, you have to To secure those deals, you have to To secure those deals, you have to stabilize the region. Now, the US stabilize the region. Now, the US stabilize the region. Now, the US Defense Intelligence Agency estimated it Defense Intelligence Agency estimated it Defense Intelligence Agency estimated it would take Iran probably less than one would take Iran probably less than one would take Iran probably less than one week to produce enough weapons grade week to produce enough weapons grade week to produce enough weapons grade uranium for a first bomb. We've heard uranium for a first bomb. We've heard uranium for a first bomb. We've heard that so many times. So, that I think you that so many times. So, that I think you that so many times. So, that I think you can just assume is not actually true can just assume is not actually true can just assume is not actually true that it's something more like they that it's something more like they that it's something more like they haven't given up their nuclear haven't given up their nuclear haven't given up their nuclear ambitions. They're still pushing it ambitions. They're still pushing it ambitions. They're still pushing it forward though even there's some debate forward though even there's some debate forward though even there's some debate around that. around that. around that. But obviously the June 2025 strikes that But obviously the June 2025 strikes that But obviously the June 2025 strikes that damaged facilities didn't necessarily damaged facilities didn't necessarily damaged facilities didn't necessarily eliminate the entire program. By eliminate the entire program. By eliminate the entire program. By February of 26, Iran was Iran was February of 26, Iran was Iran was February of 26, Iran was Iran was fortifying nuclear sites deep fortifying nuclear sites deep fortifying nuclear sites deep underground. They were completing blast underground. They were completing blast underground. They were completing blast chamber construction at Parchin relevant chamber construction at Parchin relevant chamber construction at Parchin relevant to nuclear weapons development and to nuclear weapons development and to nuclear weapons development and attempting to rebuild its missile attempting to rebuild its missile attempting to rebuild its missile infrastructure. And if some of the infrastructure. And if some of the infrastructure. And if some of the videos can be believed, they've got a videos can be believed, they've got a videos can be believed, they've got a lot of drone hardware and everything. lot of drone hardware and everything. lot of drone hardware and everything. They've just learned their lesson to They've just learned their lesson to They've just learned their lesson to start burying all of this stuff. And the start burying all of this stuff. And the start burying all of this stuff. And the deeper they bury these things, the deeper they bury these things, the deeper they bury these things, the harder it's going to be to attack it. So harder it's going to be to attack it. So harder it's going to be to attack it. So the window to act conventionally against the window to act conventionally against the window to act conventionally against Iran's nuclear program really was Iran's nuclear program really was Iran's nuclear program really was closing. And one of Iran's key lessons closing. And one of Iran's key lessons closing. And one of Iran's key lessons from the June 2025 war is that you can from the June 2025 war is that you can from the June 2025 war is that you can make it far more expensive for them to make it far more expensive for them to make it far more expensive for them to be attacked if you drive those things be attacked if you drive those things be attacked if you drive those things into underground facilities because into underground facilities because into underground facilities because they're more immune to strikes. They're they're more immune to strikes. They're they're more immune to strikes. They're hidden from IAEA inspectors. On and on. hidden from IAEA inspectors. On and on. hidden from IAEA inspectors. On and on. So every month of delay made a future So every month of delay made a future So every month of delay made a future military option just more expensive. But military option just more expensive. But military option just more expensive. But this urgency existed in 2024 as well and this urgency existed in 2024 as well and this urgency existed in 2024 as well and we didn't do anything about it. So what we didn't do anything about it. So what we didn't do anything about it. So what changed was the economic architecture changed was the economic architecture changed was the economic architecture that made tolerating that threat that made tolerating that threat that made tolerating that threat impossible because you've got to impossible because you've got to impossible because you've got to stabilize things. Okay. Three. This is stabilize things. Okay. Three. This is stabilize things. Okay. Three. This is the one that gets everybody up in arms. the one that gets everybody up in arms. the one that gets everybody up in arms. Israeli strategic necessity and alliance Israeli strategic necessity and alliance Israeli strategic necessity and alliance management. So people are going to say management. So people are going to say management. So people are going to say and if I think there's a Trump quote and and if I think there's a Trump quote and and if I think there's a Trump quote and I'm going to by the way I'll peg this at I'm going to by the way I'll peg this at I'm going to by the way I'll peg this at about 20%. But um people were saying, about 20%. But um people were saying, about 20%. But um people were saying, "Nah, Trump's a [ __ ] He's just dancing "Nah, Trump's a [ __ ] He's just dancing "Nah, Trump's a [ __ ] He's just dancing to Israel's tune. This is all about to Israel's tune. This is all about to Israel's tune. This is all about Israel." Trump himself has said, I don't Israel." Trump himself has said, I don't Israel." Trump himself has said, I don't I don't know that I've verified this, I don't know that I've verified this, I don't know that I've verified this, but I'm pretty sure that this is true. but I'm pretty sure that this is true. but I'm pretty sure that this is true. Uh if reports can be believed, Trump Uh if reports can be believed, Trump Uh if reports can be believed, Trump said basically anybody that says that said basically anybody that says that said basically anybody that says that just is totally ignorant to um how just is totally ignorant to um how just is totally ignorant to um how geopolitics actually works. Now, I'm geopolitics actually works. Now, I'm geopolitics actually works. Now, I'm going to read between the lines and say going to read between the lines and say going to read between the lines and say what he means by that is this is an what he means by that is this is an what he means by that is this is an economic game. Now, economics play out economic game. Now, economics play out economic game. Now, economics play out at the level of power as we're seeing at the level of power as we're seeing at the level of power as we're seeing here. So, just because something is here. So, just because something is here. So, just because something is argued on the surface is about being argued on the surface is about being argued on the surface is about being about warfare, you have to understand about warfare, you have to understand about warfare, you have to understand this country's jockeying for position to this country's jockeying for position to this country's jockeying for position to make life better for their people. How make life better for their people. How make life better for their people. How do you make life better for your people? do you make life better for your people? do you make life better for your people? You make them wealthier. Once you You make them wealthier. Once you You make them wealthier. Once you understand the game really is that understand the game really is that understand the game really is that simple. Um, then pieces will start to simple. Um, then pieces will start to simple. Um, then pieces will start to click in place. So, Iran has been on an click in place. So, Iran has been on an click in place. So, Iran has been on an escalatory uh trajectory with Israel escalatory uh trajectory with Israel escalatory uh trajectory with Israel since October of 2023 for obvious since October of 2023 for obvious since October of 2023 for obvious reasons, October 7th. Uh that just set a reasons, October 7th. Uh that just set a reasons, October 7th. Uh that just set a lot of things in motion. Israel's lot of things in motion. Israel's lot of things in motion. Israel's strategy over the prior two years had strategy over the prior two years had strategy over the prior two years had transformed from containing Iranian transformed from containing Iranian transformed from containing Iranian proxies to directly striking Iran proxies to directly striking Iran proxies to directly striking Iran itself. Um neutralizing Hezbollah's itself. Um neutralizing Hezbollah's itself. Um neutralizing Hezbollah's second strike threat in Lebanon, second strike threat in Lebanon, second strike threat in Lebanon, destroying air defense systems in Syria, destroying air defense systems in Syria, destroying air defense systems in Syria, and opening a direct flight path into and opening a direct flight path into and opening a direct flight path into Iranian airspace. Israel had already Iranian airspace. Israel had already Iranian airspace. Israel had already struck Iran in June of 25. Iran and struck Iran in June of 25. Iran and struck Iran in June of 25. Iran and Israeli proxies have been engaged in Israeli proxies have been engaged in Israeli proxies have been engaged in conflict since 1985, which escalated conflict since 1985, which escalated conflict since 1985, which escalated into direct confrontations in 2024 and into direct confrontations in 2024 and into direct confrontations in 2024 and then the 12-day war that I'm sure all of then the 12-day war that I'm sure all of then the 12-day war that I'm sure all of you guys are very aware of from 2025. you guys are very aware of from 2025. you guys are very aware of from 2025. Israel was going to act again Israel was going to act again Israel was going to act again regardless. Okay, Israel was going to do regardless. Okay, Israel was going to do regardless. Okay, Israel was going to do their thing. The question was whether their thing. The question was whether their thing. The question was whether the US would be a coordinating partner the US would be a coordinating partner the US would be a coordinating partner or a bystander. and joining the or a bystander. and joining the or a bystander. and joining the operation gives the US operational operation gives the US operational operation gives the US operational control over escalation management and control over escalation management and control over escalation management and ensures that the strikes align with ensures that the strikes align with ensures that the strikes align with American economic interests in the American economic interests in the American economic interests in the region rather than purely Israeli ones. region rather than purely Israeli ones. region rather than purely Israeli ones. So if you want to know why the US didn't So if you want to know why the US didn't So if you want to know why the US didn't wait for Israel to strike first, which wait for Israel to strike first, which wait for Israel to strike first, which honestly I thought would have been much honestly I thought would have been much honestly I thought would have been much higher odds, that's why. For them to higher odds, that's why. For them to higher odds, that's why. For them to come in, grab the reins, make sure that come in, grab the reins, make sure that come in, grab the reins, make sure that from an economic standpoint they're from an economic standpoint they're from an economic standpoint they're going to get what they want. And from a going to get what they want. And from a going to get what they want. And from a story perspective, if Trump knows that story perspective, if Trump knows that story perspective, if Trump knows that he's going to get involved, that he's he's going to get involved, that he's he's going to get involved, that he's going to um trail Israel, that is going to um trail Israel, that is going to um trail Israel, that is terrible for the Trump is a puppet of terrible for the Trump is a puppet of terrible for the Trump is a puppet of Israel narrative. So, he's going to be Israel narrative. So, he's going to be Israel narrative. So, he's going to be hyper aware of that. And then also, he's hyper aware of that. And then also, he's hyper aware of that. And then also, he's going to want to take credit for this if going to want to take credit for this if going to want to take credit for this if it goes well. Now, that's a gigantic it goes well. Now, that's a gigantic it goes well. Now, that's a gigantic if. And that brings us to the fourth if. And that brings us to the fourth if. And that brings us to the fourth thing, regime decapitation and thing, regime decapitation and thing, regime decapitation and opportunistic destabilization. I'm going opportunistic destabilization. I'm going opportunistic destabilization. I'm going to put this at 15% because it's such a to put this at 15% because it's such a to put this at 15% because it's such a big if. A month and a half before the big if. A month and a half before the big if. A month and a half before the attack, Iran massacred thousands, maybe attack, Iran massacred thousands, maybe attack, Iran massacred thousands, maybe tens of thousands. Reports go all the tens of thousands. Reports go all the tens of thousands. Reports go all the way up to 30,000 plus of their own way up to 30,000 plus of their own way up to 30,000 plus of their own civilians getting killed during the civilians getting killed during the civilians getting killed during the largest protest since the Islamic largest protest since the Islamic largest protest since the Islamic Revolution back in the 70s. The regime Revolution back in the 70s. The regime Revolution back in the 70s. The regime was already fragile. Okay, that's clear. was already fragile. Okay, that's clear. was already fragile. Okay, that's clear. Kmeni was 86. There was no clear Kmeni was 86. There was no clear Kmeni was 86. There was no clear succession plan that wouldn't produce succession plan that wouldn't produce succession plan that wouldn't produce internal power struggles, although they internal power struggles, although they internal power struggles, although they did replace him only to have him killed did replace him only to have him killed did replace him only to have him killed like a couple of hours later. like a couple of hours later. like a couple of hours later. >> Somebody tweeted that he got spawn >> Somebody tweeted that he got spawn >> Somebody tweeted that he got spawn bombed, bombed, bombed, >> bro. >> bro. >> bro. >> They spawn camp it out there. >> They spawn camp it out there. >> They spawn camp it out there. >> They they spawn camp. They had that guy >> They they spawn camp. They had that guy >> They they spawn camp. They had that guy on the board already. I'm telling you on the board already. I'm telling you on the board already. I'm telling you right now, it's like aim aim down the right now, it's like aim aim down the right now, it's like aim aim down the the sniper rifle. Like you see the glint the sniper rifle. Like you see the glint the sniper rifle. Like you see the glint as soon as you spawn in toast. It's as soon as you spawn in toast. It's as soon as you spawn in toast. It's wild. Like one of the things that we're wild. Like one of the things that we're wild. Like one of the things that we're going to get into this later in the show going to get into this later in the show going to get into this later in the show and I'll touch on it a little bit here, and I'll touch on it a little bit here, and I'll touch on it a little bit here, but um AI, the role that AI is playing but um AI, the role that AI is playing but um AI, the role that AI is playing and anybody that thinks that this is not and anybody that thinks that this is not and anybody that thinks that this is not just a whole new level of warfare where just a whole new level of warfare where just a whole new level of warfare where people know exactly where people are, uh people know exactly where people are, uh people know exactly where people are, uh are going to be shocked at how precise are going to be shocked at how precise are going to be shocked at how precise and how deadly and how repeatedly we can and how deadly and how repeatedly we can and how deadly and how repeatedly we can just go after people one after another just go after people one after another just go after people one after another after another. And when you look at the after another. And when you look at the after another. And when you look at the board and you see all the different board and you see all the different board and you see all the different people that have been killed, it is people that have been killed, it is people that have been killed, it is insane. And they've killed Kamini if you insane. And they've killed Kamini if you insane. And they've killed Kamini if you guys haven't heard that. So he got just guys haven't heard that. So he got just guys haven't heard that. So he got just taken out. His replacement got taken taken out. His replacement got taken taken out. His replacement got taken out. Um and so all of that creates the out. Um and so all of that creates the out. Um and so all of that creates the potential for a power vacuum while the potential for a power vacuum while the potential for a power vacuum while the Iranian public is already in a Iranian public is already in a Iranian public is already in a revolutionary mood. So this isn't regime revolutionary mood. So this isn't regime revolutionary mood. So this isn't regime change in the Iraq sense. Nobody's going change in the Iraq sense. Nobody's going change in the Iraq sense. Nobody's going to be deploying ground troops. Um, it's to be deploying ground troops. Um, it's to be deploying ground troops. Um, it's about decapitation about decapitation about decapitation that's designed to let internal dynamics that's designed to let internal dynamics that's designed to let internal dynamics do the work. Now, we'll see if the do the work. Now, we'll see if the do the work. Now, we'll see if the Iranian people rise up. Presumably, if Iranian people rise up. Presumably, if Iranian people rise up. Presumably, if you've killed 30,000 of them, that you've killed 30,000 of them, that you've killed 30,000 of them, that strikes to the heart of people's desire strikes to the heart of people's desire strikes to the heart of people's desire to go out and protest. But from some of to go out and protest. But from some of to go out and protest. But from some of the footage I've seen, man, they're the footage I've seen, man, they're the footage I've seen, man, they're going to what look like I don't know going to what look like I don't know going to what look like I don't know what the buildings are, but they look what the buildings are, but they look what the buildings are, but they look like official um structures. They look like official um structures. They look like official um structures. They look large, monumental kinds of structures large, monumental kinds of structures large, monumental kinds of structures where they're dancing, waving American where they're dancing, waving American where they're dancing, waving American flags, Iranian flags, is Israeli flags, flags, Iranian flags, is Israeli flags, flags, Iranian flags, is Israeli flags, um doing the Trump dance, which is wild. um doing the Trump dance, which is wild. um doing the Trump dance, which is wild. I don't know if we have um easy access I don't know if we have um easy access I don't know if we have um easy access to one of those clips. That'd be a great to one of those clips. That'd be a great to one of those clips. That'd be a great clip to show. And it it really shows you clip to show. And it it really shows you clip to show. And it it really shows you that that that this may be one of those historic this may be one of those historic this may be one of those historic moments where the internal tensions were moments where the internal tensions were moments where the internal tensions were so high that simply by delivering a so high that simply by delivering a so high that simply by delivering a destabilizing blow that the people in destabilizing blow that the people in destabilizing blow that the people in the country really do have what they the country really do have what they the country really do have what they need um to move in and to get this need um to move in and to get this need um to move in and to get this going. Um we'll see. But that I think is going. Um we'll see. But that I think is going. Um we'll see. But that I think is the only way that you'll see a regime the only way that you'll see a regime the only way that you'll see a regime change is whatever the people inside the change is whatever the people inside the change is whatever the people inside the country do. This is where I think the country do. This is where I think the country do. This is where I think the most direct look at Venezuela comes in. most direct look at Venezuela comes in. most direct look at Venezuela comes in. Trump is selfish and pragmatic. Okay? Trump is selfish and pragmatic. Okay? Trump is selfish and pragmatic. Okay? So, if you think of him that way, you So, if you think of him that way, you So, if you think of him that way, you look at what he did in Venezuela. Hey, look at what he did in Venezuela. Hey, look at what he did in Venezuela. Hey, Maduro, super happy to negotiate with Maduro, super happy to negotiate with Maduro, super happy to negotiate with you. Oh, you don't want to negotiate? you. Oh, you don't want to negotiate? you. Oh, you don't want to negotiate? Word. Boom. Blow up a bunch of people, Word. Boom. Blow up a bunch of people, Word. Boom. Blow up a bunch of people, grab him, snatch him up, parade him grab him, snatch him up, parade him grab him, snatch him up, parade him around New York streets in an open van. around New York streets in an open van. around New York streets in an open van. That is the most 2026 dystopian social That is the most 2026 dystopian social That is the most 2026 dystopian social media [ __ ] I've ever seen in my life. media [ __ ] I've ever seen in my life. media [ __ ] I've ever seen in my life. Absolutely crazy. literally like a scene Absolutely crazy. literally like a scene Absolutely crazy. literally like a scene out of the running man. It is wild. Uh out of the running man. It is wild. Uh out of the running man. It is wild. Uh new person comes in. Hey, do you want to new person comes in. Hey, do you want to new person comes in. Hey, do you want to end up like Maduro or do you want to end up like Maduro or do you want to end up like Maduro or do you want to negotiate? And he'll just go down the negotiate? And he'll just go down the negotiate? And he'll just go down the list. And so cool Iran, this is your list. And so cool Iran, this is your list. And so cool Iran, this is your shot. Iranian people rise up. Uh become shot. Iranian people rise up. Uh become shot. Iranian people rise up. Uh become Persian again, take back your place, and Persian again, take back your place, and Persian again, take back your place, and if you guys are chill, then we'll just if you guys are chill, then we'll just if you guys are chill, then we'll just march forward in lock step. If you're march forward in lock step. If you're march forward in lock step. If you're not, and we've got a problem, then I'm not, and we've got a problem, then I'm not, and we've got a problem, then I'm going to negotiate with battleships. I going to negotiate with battleships. I going to negotiate with battleships. I mean, that's just the Trump playbook. mean, that's just the Trump playbook. mean, that's just the Trump playbook. Again, I'm not asking you guys to like Again, I'm not asking you guys to like Again, I'm not asking you guys to like it. I'm just telling you this is the way it. I'm just telling you this is the way it. I'm just telling you this is the way that the world is playing out. This is that the world is playing out. This is that the world is playing out. This is great power politics before your very great power politics before your very great power politics before your very eyes. And having all this happen in 2026 eyes. And having all this happen in 2026 eyes. And having all this happen in 2026 where we can see everything happening in where we can see everything happening in where we can see everything happening in real time and the flood of information real time and the flood of information real time and the flood of information is just non-stop. And it is very is just non-stop. And it is very is just non-stop. And it is very difficult to hide anything. We are going difficult to hide anything. We are going difficult to hide anything. We are going to be asked to confront the realities of to be asked to confront the realities of to be asked to confront the realities of war and not just the nicities, the war and not just the nicities, the war and not just the nicities, the narrative, the actual reality that narrative, the actual reality that narrative, the actual reality that people do what they can. Uh the how does people do what they can. Uh the how does people do what they can. Uh the how does the phrase go? The powerful will do as the phrase go? The powerful will do as the phrase go? The powerful will do as they will and the weak will suffer as they will and the weak will suffer as they will and the weak will suffer as they must. And so you are witnessing they must. And so you are witnessing they must. And so you are witnessing people playing not for what is morally people playing not for what is morally people playing not for what is morally right or acceptable. It it's just what right or acceptable. It it's just what right or acceptable. It it's just what can we do to establish a world order can we do to establish a world order can we do to establish a world order that is advantageous to us and our that is advantageous to us and our that is advantageous to us and our allies. Uh and then over time the allies. Uh and then over time the allies. Uh and then over time the historians will come up with a narrative historians will come up with a narrative historians will come up with a narrative equally untrue, but they'll come up with equally untrue, but they'll come up with equally untrue, but they'll come up with a narrative that this is what we think a narrative that this is what we think a narrative that this is what we think about this period in time and there will about this period in time and there will about this period in time and there will be clear good guys and clear bad guys. be clear good guys and clear bad guys. be clear good guys and clear bad guys. Uh but the reality that we're all going Uh but the reality that we're all going Uh but the reality that we're all going to see is that yeah, it doesn't work to see is that yeah, it doesn't work to see is that yeah, it doesn't work like that. That there are demonic like that. That there are demonic like that. That there are demonic behavior on all sides. Uh and then it behavior on all sides. Uh and then it behavior on all sides. Uh and then it just becomes a question of is there much just becomes a question of is there much just becomes a question of is there much more um horrifying behavior on one side more um horrifying behavior on one side more um horrifying behavior on one side than the other? I will say there is. than the other? I will say there is. than the other? I will say there is. Like I'm while I am mortified to see um Like I'm while I am mortified to see um Like I'm while I am mortified to see um America be an aggressor in the way that America be an aggressor in the way that America be an aggressor in the way that we have and just start uh exerting our we have and just start uh exerting our we have and just start uh exerting our power, it will be if it plays out well, power, it will be if it plays out well, power, it will be if it plays out well, it will be very good for America. It it will be very good for America. It it will be very good for America. It will create stability in the Middle East will create stability in the Middle East will create stability in the Middle East if it plays out well. That will create a if it plays out well. That will create a if it plays out well. That will create a much higher likelihood that we do get much higher likelihood that we do get much higher likelihood that we do get the investments that we're seeking, the investments that we're seeking, the investments that we're seeking, which will be good for America. And so, which will be good for America. And so, which will be good for America. And so, um, while I wish we lived in a world um, while I wish we lived in a world um, while I wish we lived in a world where these kind of power politics where these kind of power politics where these kind of power politics weren't the reality, that we didn't, weren't the reality, that we didn't, weren't the reality, that we didn't, that humans aren't the most dangerous that humans aren't the most dangerous that humans aren't the most dangerous and deadly animal that God ever created, and deadly animal that God ever created, and deadly animal that God ever created, and that we didn't constantly clash with and that we didn't constantly clash with and that we didn't constantly clash with with each other, but we do. And so, this with each other, but we do. And so, this with each other, but we do. And so, this is the world that we live in. Um, yeah. is the world that we live in. Um, yeah. is the world that we live in. Um, yeah. So, anyway, I may have a a strange So, anyway, I may have a a strange So, anyway, I may have a a strange stomach for looking at the stomach for looking at the stomach for looking at the distressing nature of man. Um, but distressing nature of man. Um, but distressing nature of man. Um, but that's what we're watching play out that's what we're watching play out that's what we're watching play out here. Okay. Now, whether all of this here. Okay. Now, whether all of this here. Okay. Now, whether all of this produces a better outcome is such a produces a better outcome is such a produces a better outcome is such a massive question mark. The military massive question mark. The military massive question mark. The military action can delay nuclear programs, but action can delay nuclear programs, but action can delay nuclear programs, but they're rarely going to eliminate them. they're rarely going to eliminate them. they're rarely going to eliminate them. Not when the will of the people is such Not when the will of the people is such Not when the will of the people is such that we need this. Understand that Iran that we need this. Understand that Iran that we need this. Understand that Iran believes that they need a nuclear believes that they need a nuclear believes that they need a nuclear program. Um, I've got a whole thing on program. Um, I've got a whole thing on program. Um, I've got a whole thing on that. We'll talk more about that later. that. We'll talk more about that later. that. We'll talk more about that later. But understand for now, let me just But understand for now, let me just But understand for now, let me just plant a flag and say Iran believes that plant a flag and say Iran believes that plant a flag and say Iran believes that they must get a nuclear program at some they must get a nuclear program at some they must get a nuclear program at some point because no one is coming to save point because no one is coming to save point because no one is coming to save them. They're in a hostile region and so them. They're in a hostile region and so them. They're in a hostile region and so if they are going to um preserve if they are going to um preserve if they are going to um preserve themselves because remember they were themselves because remember they were themselves because remember they were invaded by Iraq at one point. So it's invaded by Iraq at one point. So it's invaded by Iraq at one point. So it's not like they look around and see not like they look around and see not like they look around and see nothing but friends. They look around nothing but friends. They look around nothing but friends. They look around and see um that they're surrounded by and see um that they're surrounded by and see um that they're surrounded by enemies and allies and that they need to enemies and allies and that they need to enemies and allies and that they need to become strong because nobody is going to become strong because nobody is going to become strong because nobody is going to save them and they don't ever want to be save them and they don't ever want to be save them and they don't ever want to be in the position that they were in during in the position that they were in during in the position that they were in during the Iraq Iran conflict where they were the Iraq Iran conflict where they were the Iraq Iran conflict where they were getting gassed and their people were getting gassed and their people were getting gassed and their people were being killed by the Iraqis uh in being killed by the Iraqis uh in being killed by the Iraqis uh in contravention of um international law contravention of um international law contravention of um international law and they just realized oh I guess this and they just realized oh I guess this and they just realized oh I guess this is uh it doesn't matter and if Iranian is uh it doesn't matter and if Iranian is uh it doesn't matter and if Iranian suffering is good for somebody else then suffering is good for somebody else then suffering is good for somebody else then Iranians will suffer. Iranians will suffer. Iranians will suffer. Okay, the last piece, domestic political Okay, the last piece, domestic political Okay, the last piece, domestic political calculus. So, I think this is calculus. So, I think this is calculus. So, I think this is effectively 0%. I'll put it at five just effectively 0%. I'll put it at five just effectively 0%. I'll put it at five just to make the math math. But, um, Trump to make the math math. But, um, Trump to make the math math. But, um, Trump ultimately is going to be receiving ultimately is going to be receiving ultimately is going to be receiving massive backlash. He already is. So, massive backlash. He already is. So, massive backlash. He already is. So, even Nick Fuentes has turned against even Nick Fuentes has turned against even Nick Fuentes has turned against Trump like just consistently. Fuentes Trump like just consistently. Fuentes Trump like just consistently. Fuentes telling people to vote against Trump in telling people to vote against Trump in telling people to vote against Trump in the midterm elections. Elect Democrats, the midterm elections. Elect Democrats, the midterm elections. Elect Democrats, fine, whatever. Uh but he feels betrayed fine, whatever. Uh but he feels betrayed fine, whatever. Uh but he feels betrayed by Trump and the whole America first by Trump and the whole America first by Trump and the whole America first agenda, no new wars. Um I don't I'm sure agenda, no new wars. Um I don't I'm sure agenda, no new wars. Um I don't I'm sure Trump is still going to beat the drum of Trump is still going to beat the drum of Trump is still going to beat the drum of I'm the president of peace. Um but the I'm the president of peace. Um but the I'm the president of peace. Um but the reality is the accurate brand would be reality is the accurate brand would be reality is the accurate brand would be he's the president of power. Trump is powerful. He is exerting the Trump is powerful. He is exerting the might of the US military and he'll give might of the US military and he'll give might of the US military and he'll give you an opportunity for peace. But if you you an opportunity for peace. But if you you an opportunity for peace. But if you don't take it, he will strike. He's done don't take it, he will strike. He's done don't take it, he will strike. He's done it multiple times. Um, it multiple times. Um, it multiple times. Um, I don't see anything that would lead I don't see anything that would lead I don't see anything that would lead anyone to believe that Trump doesn't anyone to believe that Trump doesn't anyone to believe that Trump doesn't look at the deck of cards that he has look at the deck of cards that he has look at the deck of cards that he has and one of those cards is uh negotiate a and one of those cards is uh negotiate a and one of those cards is uh negotiate a peace. And another one of those cards is peace. And another one of those cards is peace. And another one of those cards is I'm going to bomb the [ __ ] out of them. I'm going to bomb the [ __ ] out of them. I'm going to bomb the [ __ ] out of them. I mean, there's a literal video that I I mean, there's a literal video that I I mean, there's a literal video that I wish we had queued up, but there's a wish we had queued up, but there's a wish we had queued up, but there's a literal video of Trump. I think it was I literal video of Trump. I think it was I literal video of Trump. I think it was I don't know if it was 2016 when he was don't know if it was 2016 when he was don't know if it was 2016 when he was running or 2020. I suppose it could have running or 2020. I suppose it could have running or 2020. I suppose it could have even been when he was running again in even been when he was running again in even been when he was running again in 24, but uh he just said um everybody 24, but uh he just said um everybody 24, but uh he just said um everybody else was like don't you when asked about else was like don't you when asked about else was like don't you when asked about the problem with Iran, like what's your the problem with Iran, like what's your the problem with Iran, like what's your message to Iran? Don't. Both Biden and message to Iran? Don't. Both Biden and message to Iran? Don't. Both Biden and Harris said the same thing. Then they Harris said the same thing. Then they Harris said the same thing. Then they asked Trump the same question. He said asked Trump the same question. He said asked Trump the same question. He said I'm going to bomb the [ __ ] out of him. I I'm going to bomb the [ __ ] out of him. I I'm going to bomb the [ __ ] out of him. I just don't care. And so yeah, when Trump just don't care. And so yeah, when Trump just don't care. And so yeah, when Trump is looking at the cards in his hand, is looking at the cards in his hand, is looking at the cards in his hand, that is certainly one of the cards. And that is certainly one of the cards. And that is certainly one of the cards. And so, um, I don't think he's doing this so, um, I don't think he's doing this so, um, I don't think he's doing this because he is truly a president of because he is truly a president of because he is truly a president of peace. I don't think he's doing this peace. I don't think he's doing this peace. I don't think he's doing this because he thinks that the American because he thinks that the American because he thinks that the American people will be on his side in the people will be on his side in the people will be on his side in the beginning. I think he's doing this beginning. I think he's doing this beginning. I think he's doing this because he knows it will be effective because he knows it will be effective because he knows it will be effective and it positions America in a place of and it positions America in a place of and it positions America in a place of dominance, which will be good dominance, which will be good dominance, which will be good economically if he pulls it off. Now, if economically if he pulls it off. Now, if economically if he pulls it off. Now, if it turns into a shitow, destabilizes the it turns into a shitow, destabilizes the it turns into a shitow, destabilizes the Middle East, the straight of hormones Middle East, the straight of hormones Middle East, the straight of hormones gets closed down. Now, you're going to gets closed down. Now, you're going to gets closed down. Now, you're going to see a problem certainly for our allies, see a problem certainly for our allies, see a problem certainly for our allies, um, but in the US, uh, given how much um, but in the US, uh, given how much um, but in the US, uh, given how much energy we produce for oursel, we will energy we produce for oursel, we will energy we produce for oursel, we will probably suffer the brunt of that the probably suffer the brunt of that the probably suffer the brunt of that the least. However, it will make it very least. However, it will make it very least. However, it will make it very difficult for Trump to hit his economic difficult for Trump to hit his economic difficult for Trump to hit his economic agenda. Uh, and so, yeah, you can expect agenda. Uh, and so, yeah, you can expect agenda. Uh, and so, yeah, you can expect if it turns into a [ __ ] show, it'll be a if it turns into a [ __ ] show, it'll be a if it turns into a [ __ ] show, it'll be a political nightmare for him. And I don't political nightmare for him. And I don't political nightmare for him. And I don't think he's a fool. He understands if think he's a fool. He understands if think he's a fool. He understands if this goes poorly, he's out in the this goes poorly, he's out in the this goes poorly, he's out in the midterms. He will get impeached midterms. He will get impeached midterms. He will get impeached immediately, he will get voted out of immediately, he will get voted out of immediately, he will get voted out of office in 28, barring something office in 28, barring something office in 28, barring something unforeseen, uh, and then they will hound unforeseen, uh, and then they will hound unforeseen, uh, and then they will hound him legally until the end of time. And him legally until the end of time. And him legally until the end of time. And so this really becomes uh, existential. so this really becomes uh, existential. so this really becomes uh, existential. So I don't think he's doing this because So I don't think he's doing this because So I don't think he's doing this because he thinks the American people are like, he thinks the American people are like, he thinks the American people are like, "Yes, please go invade Iran." Um, I "Yes, please go invade Iran." Um, I "Yes, please go invade Iran." Um, I think it's far more complicated than think it's far more complicated than think it's far more complicated than that. And I'll also place on here a an that. And I'll also place on here a an that. And I'll also place on here a an overarching thing that needs to be woven overarching thing that needs to be woven overarching thing that needs to be woven into the bedrock of the number one into the bedrock of the number one into the bedrock of the number one motivator, which is China. And uh we motivator, which is China. And uh we motivator, which is China. And uh we we'll talk more about that later, but we'll talk more about that later, but we'll talk more about that later, but the China of it all, understanding that the China of it all, understanding that the China of it all, understanding that there's a proxy war going on beneath there's a proxy war going on beneath there's a proxy war going on beneath this is critically important. this is critically important. this is critically important. >> All right, I got a couple in the chat. I >> All right, I got a couple in the chat. I >> All right, I got a couple in the chat. I got a couple in general. Um I think a got a couple in general. Um I think a got a couple in general. Um I think a lot of people were just woke up jarring. lot of people were just woke up jarring. lot of people were just woke up jarring. We knew this was coming. We seen the We knew this was coming. We seen the We knew this was coming. We seen the Armada move over, but we thought it was Armada move over, but we thought it was Armada move over, but we thought it was a threat. We thought it was Trump a threat. We thought it was Trump a threat. We thought it was Trump posturing. We didn't think we were posturing. We didn't think we were posturing. We didn't think we were really going to go to war. really going to go to war. really going to go to war. >> So, what do you think was a catalyst >> So, what do you think was a catalyst >> So, what do you think was a catalyst that really made it? I know you said in that really made it? I know you said in that really made it? I know you said in the read that it was something like the read that it was something like the read that it was something like Israel, we wanted to do something before Israel, we wanted to do something before Israel, we wanted to do something before Israel do it so we could dictate terms. Israel do it so we could dictate terms. Israel do it so we could dictate terms. Did he just have BB pressuring him now? Did he just have BB pressuring him now? Did he just have BB pressuring him now? All right, I just got to pull the All right, I just got to pull the All right, I just got to pull the trigger now. trigger now. trigger now. >> So, in terms of what's the Israel of it >> So, in terms of what's the Israel of it >> So, in terms of what's the Israel of it all? all? all? >> No. What was the the final thing that >> No. What was the the final thing that >> No. What was the the final thing that made that you think made Trump flip that made that you think made Trump flip that made that you think made Trump flip that switch to we're going to intimidate this switch to we're going to intimidate this switch to we're going to intimidate this now? Yeah. Now, we need to go. I think now? Yeah. Now, we need to go. I think now? Yeah. Now, we need to go. I think that the um if you look at the timeline that the um if you look at the timeline that the um if you look at the timeline of him moving assets in, it was when the of him moving assets in, it was when the of him moving assets in, it was when the people of Iran started rising up. And so people of Iran started rising up. And so people of Iran started rising up. And so the thing is though, we have to the thing is though, we have to the thing is though, we have to understand there's so much intel that we understand there's so much intel that we understand there's so much intel that we don't have that he has. And so we're don't have that he has. And so we're don't have that he has. And so we're going to, this is how I feel when I try going to, this is how I feel when I try going to, this is how I feel when I try to speak a foreign language. You end up to speak a foreign language. You end up to speak a foreign language. You end up mapping every word that you hear to the, mapping every word that you hear to the, mapping every word that you hear to the, you know, 20 or 30% of the language you you know, 20 or 30% of the language you you know, 20 or 30% of the language you actually understand. So we're all going actually understand. So we're all going actually understand. So we're all going to take his behavior and cram it into to take his behavior and cram it into to take his behavior and cram it into the parts that we can see and understand the parts that we can see and understand the parts that we can see and understand at the surface. Uh, but the reality is at the surface. Uh, but the reality is at the surface. Uh, but the reality is the CIA and things like that were the CIA and things like that were the CIA and things like that were probably trying to let people know back probably trying to let people know back probably trying to let people know back channel like, "Hey, channel like, "Hey, channel like, "Hey, >> Trump really is ready, but you guys have >> Trump really is ready, but you guys have >> Trump really is ready, but you guys have to show a willingness to rise up." I'm to show a willingness to rise up." I'm to show a willingness to rise up." I'm sure MSAD is acting like crazy, trying sure MSAD is acting like crazy, trying sure MSAD is acting like crazy, trying to weaken the regime so that they can to weaken the regime so that they can to weaken the regime so that they can make a move. I'm sure that you've got make a move. I'm sure that you've got make a move. I'm sure that you've got Israel going, "Okay, um, October 7th Israel going, "Okay, um, October 7th Israel going, "Okay, um, October 7th created momentum that's opened a window created momentum that's opened a window created momentum that's opened a window where some of these things are going to where some of these things are going to where some of these things are going to be viewed as just understandable by be viewed as just understandable by be viewed as just understandable by people that are only half paying people that are only half paying people that are only half paying attention." And so, we have some energy attention." And so, we have some energy attention." And so, we have some energy that we can take advantage of here. I that we can take advantage of here. I that we can take advantage of here. I think that Netanyahu knows his days are think that Netanyahu knows his days are think that Netanyahu knows his days are numbered. I think Trump knows that his numbered. I think Trump knows that his numbered. I think Trump knows that his days are numbered in terms of he has to days are numbered in terms of he has to days are numbered in terms of he has to get it done before the midterms. And so get it done before the midterms. And so get it done before the midterms. And so it's like you're looking at all these it's like you're looking at all these it's like you're looking at all these things where you've got this window, but things where you've got this window, but things where you've got this window, but it's closing very rapidly. And so, okay, it's closing very rapidly. And so, okay, it's closing very rapidly. And so, okay, now we're looking for that opportunistic now we're looking for that opportunistic now we're looking for that opportunistic moment. This is a battle that I have moment. This is a battle that I have moment. This is a battle that I have with Lisa all the time. with Lisa all the time. with Lisa all the time. >> Anytime Lisa confronts a problem, she >> Anytime Lisa confronts a problem, she >> Anytime Lisa confronts a problem, she wants to take it head-on right now, wants to take it head-on right now, wants to take it head-on right now, today. And I'm like, hold on. If you today. And I'm like, hold on. If you today. And I'm like, hold on. If you slow roll this, a lot of times slow roll this, a lot of times slow roll this, a lot of times opportunities will present themselves, opportunities will present themselves, opportunities will present themselves, but you have to be patient enough to but you have to be patient enough to but you have to be patient enough to wait for a person to extend an olive wait for a person to extend an olive wait for a person to extend an olive branch or for something bad to happen branch or for something bad to happen branch or for something bad to happen that you can say like, "Okay, this is that you can say like, "Okay, this is that you can say like, "Okay, this is like forced this conversation." And now like forced this conversation." And now like forced this conversation." And now I have the the sort of righteous I have the the sort of righteous I have the the sort of righteous indignation that I need to come at this indignation that I need to come at this indignation that I need to come at this with the right energy. And so you've got with the right energy. And so you've got with the right energy. And so you've got to think all these leaders are beholden to think all these leaders are beholden to think all these leaders are beholden to their people, what the psychology of to their people, what the psychology of to their people, what the psychology of their people is. And if you strike Iran their people is. And if you strike Iran their people is. And if you strike Iran when the people of Iran are docile, you when the people of Iran are docile, you when the people of Iran are docile, you look very different because you've got look very different because you've got look very different because you've got to think about the narrative. If you to think about the narrative. If you to think about the narrative. If you strike Iran on the other hand, when strike Iran on the other hand, when strike Iran on the other hand, when you're we've been negotiating for ages, you're we've been negotiating for ages, you're we've been negotiating for ages, cuz remember when this first popped off, cuz remember when this first popped off, cuz remember when this first popped off, I'm like, what are we escalating around? I'm like, what are we escalating around? I'm like, what are we escalating around? I don't understand. Trump is like, I don't understand. Trump is like, I don't understand. Trump is like, you've got to make a deal. Make a deal. you've got to make a deal. Make a deal. you've got to make a deal. Make a deal. And I was like, make a deal about what? And I was like, make a deal about what? And I was like, make a deal about what? Like you said that you took out their Like you said that you took out their Like you said that you took out their nuclear capabilities. You told me that, nuclear capabilities. You told me that, nuclear capabilities. You told me that, hey, the bombs dropped Fort toast. And hey, the bombs dropped Fort toast. And hey, the bombs dropped Fort toast. And so I'm just like I I had sort of like so I'm just like I I had sort of like so I'm just like I I had sort of like put Iran in a box and was like cool put Iran in a box and was like cool put Iran in a box and was like cool we're done with that one. We're on to we're done with that one. We're on to we're done with that one. We're on to the next Israel problem but I'm not the next Israel problem but I'm not the next Israel problem but I'm not super paying attention to it. And he super paying attention to it. And he super paying attention to it. And he just kept saying like they've got to just kept saying like they've got to just kept saying like they've got to negotiate. And then all of a sudden I negotiate. And then all of a sudden I negotiate. And then all of a sudden I was like whoa they're sending a lot of was like whoa they're sending a lot of was like whoa they're sending a lot of hardware over there. What the hell is hardware over there. What the hell is hardware over there. What the hell is going on? And it was like okay like the going on? And it was like okay like the going on? And it was like okay like the people of Iran were popping off and I people of Iran were popping off and I people of Iran were popping off and I understood that and it was like okay. understood that and it was like okay. understood that and it was like okay. But then we kept sending more and more But then we kept sending more and more But then we kept sending more and more and more and then he started like really and more and then he started like really and more and then he started like really saying oh this is about nuclear stuff. saying oh this is about nuclear stuff. saying oh this is about nuclear stuff. And so I'm like, "Okay, I know that's And so I'm like, "Okay, I know that's And so I'm like, "Okay, I know that's bullshit." And I laughed until bullshit." And I laughed until bullshit." And I laughed until practically blood shot out my nose when practically blood shot out my nose when practically blood shot out my nose when I saw that um ancient artifact, Israeli I saw that um ancient artifact, Israeli I saw that um ancient artifact, Israeli artifact found and translated, you know, artifact found and translated, you know, artifact found and translated, you know, from 15,000 years ago. And it says Iran from 15,000 years ago. And it says Iran from 15,000 years ago. And it says Iran is one week away from a nuclear weapon. is one week away from a nuclear weapon. is one week away from a nuclear weapon. And I was just like, "Yeah, okay. That's And I was just like, "Yeah, okay. That's And I was just like, "Yeah, okay. That's the narrative. I get it. That gives like the narrative. I get it. That gives like the narrative. I get it. That gives like your sort of I'm not really paying your sort of I'm not really paying your sort of I'm not really paying attention, but I need a headline people attention, but I need a headline people attention, but I need a headline people that go, "Oh, wow. Iran like doing the that go, "Oh, wow. Iran like doing the that go, "Oh, wow. Iran like doing the nuclear thing again." Okay. Yeah, I nuclear thing again." Okay. Yeah, I nuclear thing again." Okay. Yeah, I guess. like we have to do something and guess. like we have to do something and guess. like we have to do something and I was like this doesn't make sense. So I was like this doesn't make sense. So I was like this doesn't make sense. So as always for me I start is there an as always for me I start is there an as always for me I start is there an economic story here and start putting economic story here and start putting economic story here and start putting the pieces together like that we went the pieces together like that we went the pieces together like that we went through it already. So that all makes through it already. So that all makes through it already. So that all makes sense to me the exact why this precise sense to me the exact why this precise sense to me the exact why this precise moment I think it's midterms. I think moment I think it's midterms. I think moment I think it's midterms. I think it's BB Netanyahu running out of time. it's BB Netanyahu running out of time. it's BB Netanyahu running out of time. Uh and I think it's the popular uprising Uh and I think it's the popular uprising Uh and I think it's the popular uprising of the people in Iran that gives you of the people in Iran that gives you of the people in Iran that gives you this massive um moral cover story to this massive um moral cover story to this massive um moral cover story to move now. move now. move now. >> Got it. And then like taking a step >> Got it. And then like taking a step >> Got it. And then like taking a step back, I understand that this is a proxy back, I understand that this is a proxy back, I understand that this is a proxy war. I understand that, you know, China war. I understand that, you know, China war. I understand that, you know, China might have a hand in it. might have a hand in it. might have a hand in it. >> And really fast, one more thing I want >> And really fast, one more thing I want >> And really fast, one more thing I want to put on the table. This will make to put on the table. This will make to put on the table. This will make sense as we go. You've also got the sense as we go. You've also got the sense as we go. You've also got the things went so well in Venezuela. That's things went so well in Venezuela. That's things went so well in Venezuela. That's a ding against China. Now you've got a ding against China. Now you've got a ding against China. Now you've got this looming thing with Iran. You have this looming thing with Iran. You have this looming thing with Iran. You have another potential blow against China. another potential blow against China. another potential blow against China. And if you lose sight of China as the And if you lose sight of China as the And if you lose sight of China as the backdrop to all of this, it gets more backdrop to all of this, it gets more backdrop to all of this, it gets more confusing. confusing. confusing. >> Yeah. So I think that's the point that I >> Yeah. So I think that's the point that I >> Yeah. So I think that's the point that I was a bit confused because I think from was a bit confused because I think from was a bit confused because I think from an American lens, a lot of us are an American lens, a lot of us are an American lens, a lot of us are looking at it like Israel wants us to do looking at it like Israel wants us to do looking at it like Israel wants us to do their dirty work. So it's Israel and their dirty work. So it's Israel and their dirty work. So it's Israel and America against America against America against >> Anybody who makes that statement has got >> Anybody who makes that statement has got >> Anybody who makes that statement has got to tell me what is it that you think to tell me what is it that you think to tell me what is it that you think they use as leverage to make us want to they use as leverage to make us want to they use as leverage to make us want to do their bidding. That to me feels so do their bidding. That to me feels so do their bidding. That to me feels so hollow. hollow. hollow. >> It's like okay uh political dollars. >> It's like okay uh political dollars. >> It's like okay uh political dollars. Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Um okay it's blackmail. I mean maybe but >> Um okay it's blackmail. I mean maybe but >> Um okay it's blackmail. I mean maybe but that hasn't seemed to be as effective as that hasn't seemed to be as effective as that hasn't seemed to be as effective as we thought it would be. we've got enough we thought it would be. we've got enough we thought it would be. we've got enough corrupt protection against even the corrupt protection against even the corrupt protection against even the Epstein files that that didn't work. So, Epstein files that that didn't work. So, Epstein files that that didn't work. So, it's like probably not. So, um I think it's like probably not. So, um I think it's like probably not. So, um I think it is they are far it feels to me and it is they are far it feels to me and it is they are far it feels to me and I'm very open if somebody sees like a I'm very open if somebody sees like a I'm very open if somebody sees like a hole in my logic. It feels very like hole in my logic. It feels very like hole in my logic. It feels very like almost blasze to me to map it this way. almost blasze to me to map it this way. almost blasze to me to map it this way. Um they've got a ton of money in Um they've got a ton of money in Um they've got a ton of money in politics but anybody can do it. So, politics but anybody can do it. So, politics but anybody can do it. So, they're just being better at that game. they're just being better at that game. they're just being better at that game. So there's going to be a ton of people So there's going to be a ton of people So there's going to be a ton of people that are like, "Yeah, I need these that are like, "Yeah, I need these that are like, "Yeah, I need these campaign dollars, but you're not going campaign dollars, but you're not going campaign dollars, but you're not going to put boots on the ground for that." I to put boots on the ground for that." I to put boots on the ground for that." I don't think that seems highly, highly don't think that seems highly, highly don't think that seems highly, highly unlikely. But they very good with unlikely. But they very good with unlikely. But they very good with political dollars. They really are an political dollars. They really are an political dollars. They really are an ally. I think that we should when I map ally. I think that we should when I map ally. I think that we should when I map the situation as the MSAD having the situation as the MSAD having the situation as the MSAD having incredible intelligence and embedded incredible intelligence and embedded incredible intelligence and embedded infrastructure the world over, I go, infrastructure the world over, I go, infrastructure the world over, I go, that's pretty interesting. So I bet that that's pretty interesting. So I bet that that's pretty interesting. So I bet that is very um useful. And then from a is very um useful. And then from a is very um useful. And then from a technology standpoint, remember what um technology standpoint, remember what um technology standpoint, remember what um Israel did with Stuckset? Israel did with Stuckset? Israel did with Stuckset? Holy Jesus. Like the Stuckset virus got Holy Jesus. Like the Stuckset virus got Holy Jesus. Like the Stuckset virus got into the actual software that ran the into the actual software that ran the into the actual software that ran the centurfues in Iran and it was like centurfues in Iran and it was like centurfues in Iran and it was like embedded in like every piece of embedded in like every piece of embedded in like every piece of technology ever. So it was like I'm a technology ever. So it was like I'm a technology ever. So it was like I'm a Motorola chip and I'm asking myself, am Motorola chip and I'm asking myself, am Motorola chip and I'm asking myself, am I a Motorola chip in an Iranian nuclear I a Motorola chip in an Iranian nuclear I a Motorola chip in an Iranian nuclear facility? If yes, do this. Like, bro, it facility? If yes, do this. Like, bro, it facility? If yes, do this. Like, bro, it is so insane what they're able to pull is so insane what they're able to pull is so insane what they're able to pull off. Maybe I'm overesteeming their off. Maybe I'm overesteeming their off. Maybe I'm overesteeming their abilities or maybe I'm bang on. But that abilities or maybe I'm bang on. But that abilities or maybe I'm bang on. But that one to me feels like um that people are one to me feels like um that people are one to me feels like um that people are letting their imagination run away with letting their imagination run away with letting their imagination run away with them. This is why I highly encourage them. This is why I highly encourage them. This is why I highly encourage people to read the Neil Ferguson book people to read the Neil Ferguson book people to read the Neil Ferguson book about the Rothschilds. He paints the about the Rothschilds. He paints the about the Rothschilds. He paints the really sort of um unnerving tale of this really sort of um unnerving tale of this really sort of um unnerving tale of this is how high finance works and how people is how high finance works and how people is how high finance works and how people leverage money to gain power. But the leverage money to gain power. But the leverage money to gain power. But the way he explains it, it's just so blasze. way he explains it, it's just so blasze. way he explains it, it's just so blasze. Like uh politicians are the ones that Like uh politicians are the ones that Like uh politicians are the ones that actually set policy. Policy like has all actually set policy. Policy like has all actually set policy. Policy like has all these insane knockon effects. So you these insane knockon effects. So you these insane knockon effects. So you need to go befriend politicians. Once need to go befriend politicians. Once need to go befriend politicians. Once you see the like just simplicity of the you see the like just simplicity of the you see the like just simplicity of the one, two, three of it all. There's not a one, two, three of it all. There's not a one, two, three of it all. There's not a mystical thing that's happening behind mystical thing that's happening behind mystical thing that's happening behind the scenes. Like you don't have to go to the scenes. Like you don't have to go to the scenes. Like you don't have to go to like I hear people talk. They're like I hear people talk. They're like I hear people talk. They're summoning a [ __ ] sic demon and all summoning a [ __ ] sic demon and all summoning a [ __ ] sic demon and all this [ __ ] It's like what the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] It's like what the [ __ ] is this [ __ ] It's like what the [ __ ] is happening? happening? happening? >> Uh get terrestrial for a minute. Just >> Uh get terrestrial for a minute. Just >> Uh get terrestrial for a minute. Just get real boring that humans are like, get real boring that humans are like, get real boring that humans are like, "Oh, I like money." And so they start "Oh, I like money." And so they start "Oh, I like money." And so they start splashing money around, but if you think splashing money around, but if you think splashing money around, but if you think they're the only ones, you're out of they're the only ones, you're out of they're the only ones, you're out of your mind. The US is splashing money your mind. The US is splashing money your mind. The US is splashing money around all over the [ __ ] place, too. around all over the [ __ ] place, too. around all over the [ __ ] place, too. And so it's like that one just gets And so it's like that one just gets And so it's like that one just gets weird for me if you don't make it weird for me if you don't make it weird for me if you don't make it mundane. Just make it mundane. Ground it mundane. Just make it mundane. Ground it mundane. Just make it mundane. Ground it in in in >> more mundane [ __ ] and then you'll >> more mundane [ __ ] and then you'll >> more mundane [ __ ] and then you'll understand why Trump is like telling understand why Trump is like telling understand why Trump is like telling them they can't do certain things. They them they can't do certain things. They them they can't do certain things. They he wants to take the lead on other he wants to take the lead on other he wants to take the lead on other things. Israel is not more powerful than things. Israel is not more powerful than things. Israel is not more powerful than America. In fact, there I finally America. In fact, there I finally America. In fact, there I finally clicked a puzzle piece into my brain clicked a puzzle piece into my brain clicked a puzzle piece into my brain that has driven me crazy when people are that has driven me crazy when people are that has driven me crazy when people are saying that Israel is just yanking the saying that Israel is just yanking the saying that Israel is just yanking the US around. America is far more powerful US around. America is far more powerful US around. America is far more powerful than Israel by a lot on every than Israel by a lot on every than Israel by a lot on every conventional measure. Maybe not conventional measure. Maybe not conventional measure. Maybe not intelligence, I don't know. But bro, intelligence, I don't know. But bro, intelligence, I don't know. But bro, >> I I got to push back. >> I I got to push back. >> I I got to push back. >> Please do like tell me what the thing is >> Please do like tell me what the thing is >> Please do like tell me what the thing is you think I'm missing. If Israel were to you think I'm missing. If Israel were to you think I'm missing. If Israel were to turn on America in that region, that turn on America in that region, that turn on America in that region, that region can do tremendous damage on an region can do tremendous damage on an region can do tremendous damage on an international global level. international global level. international global level. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> The reason that I think the reason that >> The reason that I think the reason that >> The reason that I think the reason that Israel gets this special treatment in Israel gets this special treatment in Israel gets this special treatment in the factor is because they are a proxy the factor is because they are a proxy the factor is because they are a proxy for America. Just like we have just like for America. Just like we have just like for America. Just like we have just like >> not a proxy for Israel. That's what I'm >> not a proxy for Israel. That's what I'm >> not a proxy for Israel. That's what I'm saying. Like if you that line Yeah. saying. Like if you that line Yeah. saying. Like if you that line Yeah. Cool. Love it. Cool. Love it. Cool. Love it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh the vast majority of the Western >> Uh the vast majority of the Western >> Uh the vast majority of the Western world is a proxy for America. This is world is a proxy for America. This is world is a proxy for America. This is why Europe is playing with fire. Be a why Europe is playing with fire. Be a why Europe is playing with fire. Be a proxy for America. Be good little boys proxy for America. Be good little boys proxy for America. Be good little boys and girls. Be a proxy. Shut the [ __ ] up. and girls. Be a proxy. Shut the [ __ ] up. and girls. Be a proxy. Shut the [ __ ] up. Do what you're told. No, I'm seriously. Do what you're told. No, I'm seriously. Do what you're told. No, I'm seriously. And if you don't, you are on your own. And if you don't, you are on your own. And if you don't, you are on your own. >> Go protect yourself. Go. >> Go protect yourself. Go. >> Go protect yourself. Go. >> Russia twirls their mustache. And it's >> Russia twirls their mustache. And it's >> Russia twirls their mustache. And it's like, say less, fam. Like, if you're like, say less, fam. Like, if you're like, say less, fam. Like, if you're trying to warm things back up with trying to warm things back up with trying to warm things back up with Russia and you're telling me I get a Russia and you're telling me I get a Russia and you're telling me I get a [ __ ] dunk on Europe. Now, I'm not [ __ ] dunk on Europe. Now, I'm not [ __ ] dunk on Europe. Now, I'm not saying this is what's happening, but I'm saying this is what's happening, but I'm saying this is what's happening, but I'm saying that is the threat that Trump saying that is the threat that Trump saying that is the threat that Trump wants looming in the background. Get the wants looming in the background. Get the wants looming in the background. Get the [ __ ] in line. I'm not gonna pay for your [ __ ] in line. I'm not gonna pay for your [ __ ] in line. I'm not gonna pay for your uh NATO privileges anymore. Like, you uh NATO privileges anymore. Like, you uh NATO privileges anymore. Like, you guys need to pony up. You need to be at guys need to pony up. You need to be at guys need to pony up. You need to be at >> 3 to 5% of your GDP on defense. You guys >> 3 to 5% of your GDP on defense. You guys >> 3 to 5% of your GDP on defense. You guys have to be prepared to defend have to be prepared to defend have to be prepared to defend yourselves. Give me [ __ ] Greenland. yourselves. Give me [ __ ] Greenland. yourselves. Give me [ __ ] Greenland. You're not going to give me Greenland? You're not going to give me Greenland? You're not going to give me Greenland? [ __ ] all you kids. Like, again, if you [ __ ] all you kids. Like, again, if you [ __ ] all you kids. Like, again, if you want to label the world as these guys want to label the world as these guys want to label the world as these guys are just a bunch of proxies for the US. are just a bunch of proxies for the US. are just a bunch of proxies for the US. I'm in. If you want to say that's I'm in. If you want to say that's I'm in. If you want to say that's morally disgusting, okay, we can have a morally disgusting, okay, we can have a morally disgusting, okay, we can have a conversation about power. But to say conversation about power. But to say conversation about power. But to say that the US is a proxy of Israel, that's that the US is a proxy of Israel, that's that the US is a proxy of Israel, that's where I'm like, I don't buy it. where I'm like, I don't buy it. where I'm like, I don't buy it. >> All right, I want to finish the thread >> All right, I want to finish the thread >> All right, I want to finish the thread that I was walking really quick. So, uh, that I was walking really quick. So, uh, that I was walking really quick. So, uh, G, if you could throw this up. G, if you could throw this up. G, if you could throw this up. >> When we initially talk about it, let's >> When we initially talk about it, let's >> When we initially talk about it, let's just talk for the proxies. Iran is being just talk for the proxies. Iran is being just talk for the proxies. Iran is being backed by, um, China. Some people are backed by, um, China. Some people are backed by, um, China. Some people are saying Russia's in there because they saying Russia's in there because they saying Russia's in there because they donated weapons and they've been helping donated weapons and they've been helping donated weapons and they've been helping them out. On the U Middle East side, them out. On the U Middle East side, them out. On the U Middle East side, Israel and US are teamed up. But once we Israel and US are teamed up. But once we Israel and US are teamed up. But once we struck, we did the initial strike, Iran struck, we did the initial strike, Iran struck, we did the initial strike, Iran went crazy and started to target 11 went crazy and started to target 11 went crazy and started to target 11 countries. Cypress got two missiles. countries. Cypress got two missiles. countries. Cypress got two missiles. Oman got two missiles. Byron, Iraq, Oman got two missiles. Byron, Iraq, Oman got two missiles. Byron, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia. There's literally a Saudi Arabia. There's literally a Saudi Arabia. There's literally a Saudi Arabian like refinery on fire right now. Arabian like refinery on fire right now. Arabian like refinery on fire right now. And you know Saudis don't play about And you know Saudis don't play about And you know Saudis don't play about their oil. So, it's one of those things their oil. So, it's one of those things their oil. So, it's one of those things like I don't want to be hyperbolic in like I don't want to be hyperbolic in like I don't want to be hyperbolic in saying this, but a world war requires a saying this, but a world war requires a saying this, but a world war requires a lot of different countries fighting lot of different countries fighting lot of different countries fighting together. Right now, it seems like together. Right now, it seems like together. Right now, it seems like there's a lot of countries on one side there's a lot of countries on one side there's a lot of countries on one side fighting a lot of countries on the other fighting a lot of countries on the other fighting a lot of countries on the other side. This definitionally, are we side. This definitionally, are we side. This definitionally, are we entering into like a World War II? entering into like a World War II? entering into like a World War II? >> Yeah. So, it's one of those times where >> Yeah. So, it's one of those times where >> Yeah. So, it's one of those times where the parallels to making the statement the parallels to making the statement the parallels to making the statement that this is the beginning of World War that this is the beginning of World War that this is the beginning of World War II are so obvious um that I didn't want II are so obvious um that I didn't want II are so obvious um that I didn't want to make them. But the reality is that to make them. But the reality is that to make them. But the reality is that this could be the thing that kicks off this could be the thing that kicks off this could be the thing that kicks off World War II. But what you would need is World War II. But what you would need is World War II. But what you would need is Russia and China to make their real uh Russia and China to make their real uh Russia and China to make their real uh ambitions known. And right now, I don't ambitions known. And right now, I don't ambitions known. And right now, I don't think they're going to do that. We will think they're going to do that. We will think they're going to do that. We will see. In war, things kick off. Something see. In war, things kick off. Something see. In war, things kick off. Something happens that people were not expecting happens that people were not expecting happens that people were not expecting that causes somebody to react in a big that causes somebody to react in a big that causes somebody to react in a big way and that causes like this insane way and that causes like this insane way and that causes like this insane daisy chain of events to unfold that daisy chain of events to unfold that daisy chain of events to unfold that people didn't expect. So, I will say people didn't expect. So, I will say people didn't expect. So, I will say that um you know, don't count your that um you know, don't count your that um you know, don't count your chickens before they hatch. This is very chickens before they hatch. This is very chickens before they hatch. This is very precarious right now. I would not expect precarious right now. I would not expect precarious right now. I would not expect this to have that kind of explosive this to have that kind of explosive this to have that kind of explosive effect as long as Russia and China stay effect as long as Russia and China stay effect as long as Russia and China stay out of it. Now, Russia technically was out of it. Now, Russia technically was out of it. Now, Russia technically was supposed to come to the aid of Iran and supposed to come to the aid of Iran and supposed to come to the aid of Iran and they didn't. And that is making a lot of they didn't. And that is making a lot of they didn't. And that is making a lot of waves for people uh that are allies of waves for people uh that are allies of waves for people uh that are allies of Russia. So, we'll see how this plays out Russia. So, we'll see how this plays out Russia. So, we'll see how this plays out for them. Uh from the reports that I've for them. Uh from the reports that I've for them. Uh from the reports that I've seen, and I want to caveat this, fog of seen, and I want to caveat this, fog of seen, and I want to caveat this, fog of war, no idea if this ends up being true. war, no idea if this ends up being true. war, no idea if this ends up being true. Uh is this information warfare? It's Uh is this information warfare? It's Uh is this information warfare? It's very possible, but the early um very possible, but the early um very possible, but the early um narrative that I can string together is narrative that I can string together is narrative that I can string together is basically that Russia understands they basically that Russia understands they basically that Russia understands they do not want to come into open conflict do not want to come into open conflict do not want to come into open conflict with the US. Uh not at a time where with the US. Uh not at a time where with the US. Uh not at a time where they're super weakened by everything they're super weakened by everything they're super weakened by everything that is going on in the Ukraine, not at that is going on in the Ukraine, not at that is going on in the Ukraine, not at a time where there might actually be a time where there might actually be a time where there might actually be negotiations between the US and Russia. negotiations between the US and Russia. negotiations between the US and Russia. And so they're like far better to And so they're like far better to And so they're like far better to sacrifice the pawn of Iran and just say, sacrifice the pawn of Iran and just say, sacrifice the pawn of Iran and just say, "Okay, sorry guys. My deal was with "Okay, sorry guys. My deal was with "Okay, sorry guys. My deal was with Kumanian. He's dead. So, not a lot for Kumanian. He's dead. So, not a lot for Kumanian. He's dead. So, not a lot for us to do. Uh, also we said that if it us to do. Uh, also we said that if it us to do. Uh, also we said that if it was like an outand-out war, this is was like an outand-out war, this is was like an outand-out war, this is really just strikes on terrorist really just strikes on terrorist really just strikes on terrorist infrastructure. Like, I've seen some infrastructure. Like, I've seen some infrastructure. Like, I've seen some crazy things reportedly coming out of crazy things reportedly coming out of crazy things reportedly coming out of the Kremlin. Now, what all ends up being the Kremlin. Now, what all ends up being the Kremlin. Now, what all ends up being true, I don't know. But what is true so true, I don't know. But what is true so true, I don't know. But what is true so far is Russia is staying mum, like they far is Russia is staying mum, like they far is Russia is staying mum, like they are not getting involved. Uh, China is are not getting involved. Uh, China is are not getting involved. Uh, China is being a little bit more handsy in the being a little bit more handsy in the being a little bit more handsy in the situation. They're sending intel, like situation. They're sending intel, like situation. They're sending intel, like they've publicly published intel to let they've publicly published intel to let they've publicly published intel to let the US know, we can track the movements the US know, we can track the movements the US know, we can track the movements of your supposedly secret aircraft. We of your supposedly secret aircraft. We of your supposedly secret aircraft. We know where they all are and we're just know where they all are and we're just know where they all are and we're just putting it out there on the table. putting it out there on the table. putting it out there on the table. Supposedly, they're sending um weapons Supposedly, they're sending um weapons Supposedly, they're sending um weapons systems to Iran as well. So, we'll see systems to Iran as well. So, we'll see systems to Iran as well. So, we'll see if there's uh anything that gets if there's uh anything that gets if there's uh anything that gets escalatory there. It is certainly going escalatory there. It is certainly going escalatory there. It is certainly going to be an open question as the US is in to be an open question as the US is in to be an open question as the US is in my opinion certainly trying to weaken my opinion certainly trying to weaken my opinion certainly trying to weaken the energy resources that China has. the energy resources that China has. the energy resources that China has. China though is trying to diversify away China though is trying to diversify away China though is trying to diversify away from oil as fast as they can. And when from oil as fast as they can. And when from oil as fast as they can. And when you look at their um energy you look at their um energy you look at their um energy expenditures, solar is going up expenditures, solar is going up expenditures, solar is going up massively. Coal is going down. Now to massively. Coal is going down. Now to massively. Coal is going down. Now to what extent they still rely on things what extent they still rely on things what extent they still rely on things coming out of the Middle East and oil in coming out of the Middle East and oil in coming out of the Middle East and oil in general, I imagine it would not be easy general, I imagine it would not be easy general, I imagine it would not be easy to switch their economy on a dime. So to switch their economy on a dime. So to switch their economy on a dime. So this is going to have an impact on them. this is going to have an impact on them. this is going to have an impact on them. How big the impact will determine How big the impact will determine How big the impact will determine whether they feel the need to escalate whether they feel the need to escalate whether they feel the need to escalate their involvement in the conflict. So their involvement in the conflict. So their involvement in the conflict. So we'll see. we'll see. we'll see. >> Uh okay. And then uh Pete Hexath had a >> Uh okay. And then uh Pete Hexath had a >> Uh okay. And then uh Pete Hexath had a press briefing earlier and a journalist press briefing earlier and a journalist press briefing earlier and a journalist asked him a really good question. I want asked him a really good question. I want asked him a really good question. I want to hear his response and then hear kind to hear his response and then hear kind to hear his response and then hear kind of your breakdown of it. of your breakdown of it. of your breakdown of it. >> Thank you. Reagan Reese with the Daily >> Thank you. Reagan Reese with the Daily >> Thank you. Reagan Reese with the Daily Caller. Um two questions for you. The Caller. Um two questions for you. The Caller. Um two questions for you. The president said yesterday in his video president said yesterday in his video president said yesterday in his video message that we will leave Iran when we message that we will leave Iran when we message that we will leave Iran when we complete all of our objectives. What are complete all of our objectives. What are complete all of our objectives. What are our objectives and can you share more our objectives and can you share more our objectives and can you share more information on how the soldiers who were information on how the soldiers who were information on how the soldiers who were killed were killed? killed were killed? killed were killed? >> So what are our objectives? >> So what are our objectives? >> So what are our objectives? >> Well, I laid out the objectives as did >> Well, I laid out the objectives as did >> Well, I laid out the objectives as did the chairman. They're they're completely the chairman. They're they're completely the chairman. They're they're completely nested. I mean Iran has an ability to nested. I mean Iran has an ability to nested. I mean Iran has an ability to project power against us and our allies project power against us and our allies project power against us and our allies in ways that we can't um we can't in ways that we can't um we can't in ways that we can't um we can't tolerate. So whether that's ballistic tolerate. So whether that's ballistic tolerate. So whether that's ballistic missiles and drones, so offensive missiles and drones, so offensive missiles and drones, so offensive capabilities. capabilities. capabilities. So, okay, this is part of the dog and So, okay, this is part of the dog and So, okay, this is part of the dog and pony show. You're going to hear that a pony show. You're going to hear that a pony show. You're going to hear that a lot, a true thing that does not explain lot, a true thing that does not explain lot, a true thing that does not explain the timing. the timing. the timing. >> And so, part of what I'm trying to get >> And so, part of what I'm trying to get >> And so, part of what I'm trying to get people to focus on to actually people to focus on to actually people to focus on to actually understand how all of this stuff plays understand how all of this stuff plays understand how all of this stuff plays out, and we've got, um, more things that out, and we've got, um, more things that out, and we've got, um, more things that we're going to cover on this in terms of we're going to cover on this in terms of we're going to cover on this in terms of the history of the region and all of the history of the region and all of the history of the region and all of that. But, um, yes, true statement, but that. But, um, yes, true statement, but that. But, um, yes, true statement, but not at all explanatory of why now. not at all explanatory of why now. not at all explanatory of why now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um and then this is to like the pull out Um and then this is to like the pull out Um and then this is to like the pull out he talks about the timeline of he talks about the timeline of he talks about the timeline of withdrawing and things withdrawing and things withdrawing and things >> effectively their their navy which would >> effectively their their navy which would >> effectively their their navy which would attempt to set other terms and impose attempt to set other terms and impose attempt to set other terms and impose different costs uh drone capabilities different costs uh drone capabilities different costs uh drone capabilities which we which we laid out there and which we which we laid out there and which we which we laid out there and ultimately though this tying it back to ultimately though this tying it back to ultimately though this tying it back to midnight hammer the president has been midnight hammer the president has been midnight hammer the president has been willing to make a deal you can't have a willing to make a deal you can't have a willing to make a deal you can't have a nuclear bomb radical Islamists can't nuclear bomb radical Islamists can't nuclear bomb radical Islamists can't have a nuclear bomb that they wield true have a nuclear bomb that they wield true have a nuclear bomb that they wield true statement against the world he gave them statement against the world he gave them statement against the world he gave them every single opportunity then we every single opportunity then we every single opportunity then we precisely took it away and even even precisely took it away and even even precisely took it away and even even then after that they didn't have that then after that they didn't have that then after that they didn't have that they didn't come to the table with a they didn't come to the table with a they didn't come to the table with a willingness to give it away. So willingness to give it away. So willingness to give it away. So ultimately that those nuclear ambitions ultimately that those nuclear ambitions ultimately that those nuclear ambitions which never ceased. which never ceased. which never ceased. >> So basically for a sec Pete Hakes said >> So basically for a sec Pete Hakes said >> So basically for a sec Pete Hakes said just said we took away your nuclear just said we took away your nuclear just said we took away your nuclear capabilities but even the fact that you capabilities but even the fact that you capabilities but even the fact that you won't just say that you're not going to won't just say that you're not going to won't just say that you're not going to do it that's a problem. Now that's do it that's a problem. Now that's do it that's a problem. Now that's believable. the fact that they won't believable. the fact that they won't believable. the fact that they won't even just say we're not going to pursue even just say we're not going to pursue even just say we're not going to pursue it, which they can't for reasons that it, which they can't for reasons that it, which they can't for reasons that are having to do with they have to are having to do with they have to are having to do with they have to project their power externally also to project their power externally also to project their power externally also to their own people. And uh when that goes their own people. And uh when that goes their own people. And uh when that goes away, if you don't at least say that away, if you don't at least say that away, if you don't at least say that we're working towards it, you have a we're working towards it, you have a we're working towards it, you have a problem. But what we're being asked to problem. But what we're being asked to problem. But what we're being asked to believe again is that they were just believe again is that they were just believe again is that they were just days away from having a nuclear weapon. days away from having a nuclear weapon. days away from having a nuclear weapon. I I think it's just one of those absurd I I think it's just one of those absurd I I think it's just one of those absurd things. It's easy to repeat and it gives things. It's easy to repeat and it gives things. It's easy to repeat and it gives people something to say. uh gets people people something to say. uh gets people people something to say. uh gets people having the nuclear conversation, but if having the nuclear conversation, but if having the nuclear conversation, but if you recontextualize this uh around you recontextualize this uh around you recontextualize this uh around answering one simple question, but why answering one simple question, but why answering one simple question, but why that Saturday morning? Like you got to that Saturday morning? Like you got to that Saturday morning? Like you got to explain that. And if you can't explain explain that. And if you can't explain explain that. And if you can't explain that, we've got a problem. that, we've got a problem. that, we've got a problem. >> Got it. So right now they're telling the >> Got it. So right now they're telling the >> Got it. So right now they're telling the American people that we're going to war American people that we're going to war American people that we're going to war against their nuclear ambitions. I don't against their nuclear ambitions. I don't against their nuclear ambitions. I don't know how you kill ambition, but that's know how you kill ambition, but that's know how you kill ambition, but that's the story that they're running with. On the story that they're running with. On the story that they're running with. On the flip side, the flip side, the flip side, >> it's actually pretty easy to kill that >> it's actually pretty easy to kill that >> it's actually pretty easy to kill that ambition, by the way. ambition, by the way. ambition, by the way. >> How is it to how do you kill nuclear >> How is it to how do you kill nuclear >> How is it to how do you kill nuclear ambition? It's always economics. So, ambition? It's always economics. So, ambition? It's always economics. So, here's what you do. You go to the people here's what you do. You go to the people here's what you do. You go to the people of Iran. This is why I think so much of of Iran. This is why I think so much of of Iran. This is why I think so much of this is queued off the timing of those this is queued off the timing of those this is queued off the timing of those uprisings and why I'm sure there were uprisings and why I'm sure there were uprisings and why I'm sure there were people on the street that were people on the street that were people on the street that were encouraging those uprisings that were encouraging those uprisings that were encouraging those uprisings that were either US or MSAD agents. Mhm. either US or MSAD agents. Mhm. either US or MSAD agents. Mhm. >> And uh you get the people a taste of >> And uh you get the people a taste of >> And uh you get the people a taste of what it would look like to be in an what it would look like to be in an what it would look like to be in an economically positive situation because economically positive situation because economically positive situation because remember what we did to kick off the remember what we did to kick off the remember what we did to kick off the revolution was we clamped down on them revolution was we clamped down on them revolution was we clamped down on them economically. And so we made it hard for economically. And so we made it hard for economically. And so we made it hard for them to make money. And so once we were them to make money. And so once we were them to make money. And so once we were able to put Iran in a terrible economic able to put Iran in a terrible economic able to put Iran in a terrible economic situation, the people were like, "Hold situation, the people were like, "Hold situation, the people were like, "Hold on, our government now is not only on, our government now is not only on, our government now is not only repressive, but we're experiencing repressive, but we're experiencing repressive, but we're experiencing hyperinflation." And once you're there, hyperinflation." And once you're there, hyperinflation." And once you're there, as they say, you're only um what, nine as they say, you're only um what, nine as they say, you're only um what, nine meals away from a revolution. So that's meals away from a revolution. So that's meals away from a revolution. So that's three days at three meals a day. And three days at three meals a day. And three days at three meals a day. And then people are out in the streets and then people are out in the streets and then people are out in the streets and they're willing to do whatever. Um so we they're willing to do whatever. Um so we they're willing to do whatever. Um so we put them in that situation and that put them in that situation and that put them in that situation and that kicked that off. So if you can get those kicked that off. So if you can get those kicked that off. So if you can get those people a taste of what econom or even people a taste of what econom or even people a taste of what econom or even just a belief that economic prosperity just a belief that economic prosperity just a belief that economic prosperity is on the other side of this, now all of is on the other side of this, now all of is on the other side of this, now all of a sudden they're like, "Yeah, I don't a sudden they're like, "Yeah, I don't a sudden they're like, "Yeah, I don't give a [ __ ] about the nuclear. You want give a [ __ ] about the nuclear. You want give a [ __ ] about the nuclear. You want us to we're the new people that just are us to we're the new people that just are us to we're the new people that just are building this new government. Uh, and building this new government. Uh, and building this new government. Uh, and you just want us to promise that we're you just want us to promise that we're you just want us to promise that we're not going to build nuclear? Yeah, no not going to build nuclear? Yeah, no not going to build nuclear? Yeah, no problem. problem. problem. Easy peasy. Like, they don't care about Easy peasy. Like, they don't care about Easy peasy. Like, they don't care about that. If they're not, if they don't see that. If they're not, if they don't see that. If they're not, if they don't see themselves as in danger from being themselves as in danger from being themselves as in danger from being attacked by all their neighbors, if they attacked by all their neighbors, if they attacked by all their neighbors, if they feel like, oh, we're a part of the feel like, oh, we're a part of the feel like, oh, we're a part of the Abraham Accords, we're a part of the Abraham Accords, we're a part of the Abraham Accords, we're a part of the Board of Peace, we're a part of like Board of Peace, we're a part of like Board of Peace, we're a part of like this bigger thing that's going on here, this bigger thing that's going on here, this bigger thing that's going on here, it's going to be that if I'm the people it's going to be that if I'm the people it's going to be that if I'm the people of Iran, I'm looking around going, "Hold of Iran, I'm looking around going, "Hold of Iran, I'm looking around going, "Hold on a second. Something like nine of it's on a second. Something like nine of it's on a second. Something like nine of it's not nine. something like seven out of not nine. something like seven out of not nine. something like seven out of the top 10 um investment houses in the the top 10 um investment houses in the the top 10 um investment houses in the world meaning capital under management world meaning capital under management world meaning capital under management >> are in Dubai or Abu Dhabi >> are in Dubai or Abu Dhabi >> are in Dubai or Abu Dhabi >> bro that means that the 2030s are going >> bro that means that the 2030s are going >> bro that means that the 2030s are going to be the decade at least is it going to to be the decade at least is it going to to be the decade at least is it going to be longer the decade of the Middle East be longer the decade of the Middle East be longer the decade of the Middle East so you've got Iranian people who have so you've got Iranian people who have so you've got Iranian people who have this sense of like this long heritage of this sense of like this long heritage of this sense of like this long heritage of being Persian. We're being repressed by being Persian. We're being repressed by being Persian. We're being repressed by our government now our government now our government now >> under a banner that we don't see >> under a banner that we don't see >> under a banner that we don't see ourselves in. We don't want to be a ourselves in. We don't want to be a ourselves in. We don't want to be a theocratic regime. theocratic regime. theocratic regime. >> We want to go into the 2030s with our >> We want to go into the 2030s with our >> We want to go into the 2030s with our head held high and make our head held high and make our head held high and make our contributions to what is going to be contributions to what is going to be contributions to what is going to be this incredible and they probably don't this incredible and they probably don't this incredible and they probably don't think of it as a decade. They might think of it as a decade. They might think of it as a decade. They might think of it as a century. So, we're think of it as a century. So, we're think of it as a century. So, we're about to go into the Middle Eastern about to go into the Middle Eastern about to go into the Middle Eastern century where we get out from under the century where we get out from under the century where we get out from under the Dutch disease of oil, whole thing there. Dutch disease of oil, whole thing there. Dutch disease of oil, whole thing there. And we finally now can translate that And we finally now can translate that And we finally now can translate that into the future and we can be a place into the future and we can be a place into the future and we can be a place that people want to come. By the way, that people want to come. By the way, that people want to come. By the way, Iran's not some big ass desert. Iran's Iran's not some big ass desert. Iran's Iran's not some big ass desert. Iran's beautiful. And so, you want to talk beautiful. And so, you want to talk beautiful. And so, you want to talk about a place if you had stability, about a place if you had stability, about a place if you had stability, economic opportunity, all of that, that economic opportunity, all of that, that economic opportunity, all of that, that it could become a place that people go it could become a place that people go it could become a place that people go and just experience a beautiful life. and just experience a beautiful life. and just experience a beautiful life. And so to give up like being a nuclear And so to give up like being a nuclear And so to give up like being a nuclear threat, why the [ __ ] would they care? threat, why the [ __ ] would they care? threat, why the [ __ ] would they care? Like it they need to feel like they're Like it they need to feel like they're Like it they need to feel like they're under a bigger umbrella. They can't feel under a bigger umbrella. They can't feel under a bigger umbrella. They can't feel like they're dangling out there. But if like they're dangling out there. But if like they're dangling out there. But if they felt that embrace, and that's why I they felt that embrace, and that's why I they felt that embrace, and that's why I say the Abraham Accords were brilliant say the Abraham Accords were brilliant say the Abraham Accords were brilliant because it's an economic approach to because it's an economic approach to because it's an economic approach to what everybody believed was a religious what everybody believed was a religious what everybody believed was a religious problem. It's always economic. problem. It's always economic. problem. It's always economic. >> Yeah. All right. So then on the flip >> Yeah. All right. So then on the flip >> Yeah. All right. So then on the flip side of that, we kind of see the we're side of that, we kind of see the we're side of that, we kind of see the we're going to go into the history um after going to go into the history um after going to go into the history um after this, but we see what are the five this, but we see what are the five this, but we see what are the five factors that are contributing to it. factors that are contributing to it. factors that are contributing to it. We're seeing what the administration is We're seeing what the administration is We're seeing what the administration is kind of telling the American people. kind of telling the American people. kind of telling the American people. What do you think the offramp is? What What do you think the offramp is? What What do you think the offramp is? What do you think is the thing that can wrap do you think is the thing that can wrap do you think is the thing that can wrap this up in a tight bow? Cuz we thought I this up in a tight bow? Cuz we thought I this up in a tight bow? Cuz we thought I thought it was going to be Venezuela thought it was going to be Venezuela thought it was going to be Venezuela 2.0. We go in, we kill Kamani. All 2.0. We go in, we kill Kamani. All 2.0. We go in, we kill Kamani. All right, we're done. We got him guys. High right, we're done. We got him guys. High right, we're done. We got him guys. High five. Let's bring everybody back home. five. Let's bring everybody back home. five. Let's bring everybody back home. But once he died night one and then But once he died night one and then But once he died night one and then there was another wave of strikes. Pete there was another wave of strikes. Pete there was another wave of strikes. Pete Hexath in his briefing said we're going Hexath in his briefing said we're going Hexath in his briefing said we're going to it's an ongoing operation there. It's to it's an ongoing operation there. It's to it's an ongoing operation there. It's still live. They're still hot with still live. They're still hot with still live. They're still hot with ammunitions. ammunitions. ammunitions. >> What do you think is the offering? What >> What do you think is the offering? What >> What do you think is the offering? What do you think is the thing that gets us do you think is the thing that gets us do you think is the thing that gets us out or at least winds things down in the out or at least winds things down in the out or at least winds things down in the region? region? region? I don't think there is. I think this is I don't think there is. I think this is I don't think there is. I think this is this an all or nothing gambit. this an all or nothing gambit. this an all or nothing gambit. >> You either win, >> You either win, >> You either win, >> so complete surrender, the people >> so complete surrender, the people >> so complete surrender, the people protest, take over the government, that protest, take over the government, that protest, take over the government, that type of type of type of >> Yep. So, uh, the only the only like >> Yep. So, uh, the only the only like >> Yep. So, uh, the only the only like backpocket thing, in fact, this is what backpocket thing, in fact, this is what backpocket thing, in fact, this is what he will use as the back pocket. If it he will use as the back pocket. If it he will use as the back pocket. If it doesn't go well, doesn't go well, doesn't go well, >> whoever steps into power, let's say that >> whoever steps into power, let's say that >> whoever steps into power, let's say that it remains IRGC, whatever, you just keep it remains IRGC, whatever, you just keep it remains IRGC, whatever, you just keep saying, "Okay, well, we're willing to saying, "Okay, well, we're willing to saying, "Okay, well, we're willing to negotiate if these guys are willing to negotiate if these guys are willing to negotiate if these guys are willing to give up their nuclear ambitions." And give up their nuclear ambitions." And give up their nuclear ambitions." And you just bring the narrative back to you just bring the narrative back to you just bring the narrative back to that. Cool. They've got a new guy in that. Cool. They've got a new guy in that. Cool. They've got a new guy in power and the part that's unsaid. I see power and the part that's unsaid. I see power and the part that's unsaid. I see this is not going the way that we want. this is not going the way that we want. this is not going the way that we want. I am not putting boots on the ground. I am not putting boots on the ground. I am not putting boots on the ground. And so now it's like, well, we'll just And so now it's like, well, we'll just And so now it's like, well, we'll just go back to economic absolute uh go back to economic absolute uh go back to economic absolute uh aggression. And so we'll box them out. aggression. And so we'll box them out. aggression. And so we'll box them out. will keep them in an economically weak will keep them in an economically weak will keep them in an economically weak position. We will have done so much position. We will have done so much position. We will have done so much damage to their infrastructure by the damage to their infrastructure by the damage to their infrastructure by the time we get there time we get there time we get there >> because keep in mind these guys are >> because keep in mind these guys are >> because keep in mind these guys are going to be getting hammered day after going to be getting hammered day after going to be getting hammered day after day after day. And I think Trump has day after day. And I think Trump has day after day. And I think Trump has three to four weeks before people in the three to four weeks before people in the three to four weeks before people in the US really pull the plug. And there's US really pull the plug. And there's US really pull the plug. And there's something about the War Powers Act. I something about the War Powers Act. I something about the War Powers Act. I can't remember how many weeks it is. I can't remember how many weeks it is. I can't remember how many weeks it is. I want to say three, that like a president want to say three, that like a president want to say three, that like a president can do a strike like this for three can do a strike like this for three can do a strike like this for three weeks without having to get um weeks without having to get um weeks without having to get um permission from Congress. So, he'll push permission from Congress. So, he'll push permission from Congress. So, he'll push that as far as he can. I don't I think that as far as he can. I don't I think that as far as he can. I don't I think he might be able to veto it if they try he might be able to veto it if they try he might be able to veto it if they try to strike it down. Somebody will have to to strike it down. Somebody will have to to strike it down. Somebody will have to check me on that. If that's true, the check me on that. If that's true, the check me on that. If that's true, the odds that there's enough votes to odds that there's enough votes to odds that there's enough votes to override the veto are basically zero override the veto are basically zero override the veto are basically zero unless something really bad is happening unless something really bad is happening unless something really bad is happening on the ground at that time. on the ground at that time. on the ground at that time. >> So, it will almost certainly play out >> So, it will almost certainly play out >> So, it will almost certainly play out like that. like that. like that. >> Gotcha. Um I don't know. I'm I'm feeling >> Gotcha. Um I don't know. I'm I'm feeling >> Gotcha. Um I don't know. I'm I'm feeling optimistic based off of what you say and optimistic based off of what you say and optimistic based off of what you say and we're seeing 60 days in the chat. 60 we're seeing 60 days in the chat. 60 we're seeing 60 days in the chat. 60 days in the chat, 90 days to withdraw. days in the chat, 90 days to withdraw. days in the chat, 90 days to withdraw. So 60 days action. So 60 days action. So 60 days action. >> Even longer than I thought. Okay. >> Even longer than I thought. Okay. >> Even longer than I thought. Okay. >> Yeah. Uh so >> Yeah. Uh so >> Yeah. Uh so it's a good thing cuz he has a little it's a good thing cuz he has a little it's a good thing cuz he has a little bit of that freedom that he can bit of that freedom that he can bit of that freedom that he can strategically pick apart different parts strategically pick apart different parts strategically pick apart different parts of the regime. I think the goal was to of the regime. I think the goal was to of the regime. I think the goal was to assassinate the supreme leader. They did assassinate the supreme leader. They did assassinate the supreme leader. They did that. So so far the America is winning that. So so far the America is winning that. So so far the America is winning in what are the things that we're trying in what are the things that we're trying in what are the things that we're trying to eliminate from the Iranian side. to eliminate from the Iranian side. to eliminate from the Iranian side. >> It'll be an easy story to spin. >> It'll be an easy story to spin. >> It'll be an easy story to spin. >> Yeah. like we can't we did what we have >> Yeah. like we can't we did what we have >> Yeah. like we can't we did what we have to do. Now we're just trying to to do. Now we're just trying to to do. Now we're just trying to deescalated and get out of there. So deescalated and get out of there. So deescalated and get out of there. So it's not it's not it's not >> so far we've only lost four servicemen I >> so far we've only lost four servicemen I >> so far we've only lost four servicemen I believe. believe. believe. >> Um yeah and he talks about that it was >> Um yeah and he talks about that it was >> Um yeah and he talks about that it was like one missile got through the defense like one missile got through the defense like one missile got through the defense uh system out of the barrage that they uh system out of the barrage that they uh system out of the barrage that they sent over. sent over. sent over. >> So while economics matter a lot do you >> So while economics matter a lot do you >> So while economics matter a lot do you think that there's another element with think that there's another element with think that there's another element with this holy war as oh Marishia Dark this holy war as oh Marishia Dark this holy war as oh Marishia Dark literally did a literally did a literally did a >> Marushia >> Marushia >> Marushia >> Marushia literally did a super chat. >> Marushia literally did a super chat. >> Marushia literally did a super chat. >> Um let's do what Marushia is because it >> Um let's do what Marushia is because it >> Um let's do what Marushia is because it literally is the question I was about to literally is the question I was about to literally is the question I was about to ask him. ask him. ask him. >> Perfect. Okay. Marushia Dark 316 says, >> Perfect. Okay. Marushia Dark 316 says, >> Perfect. Okay. Marushia Dark 316 says, "Tom, I grant you that economics matters "Tom, I grant you that economics matters "Tom, I grant you that economics matters a lot, but I feel like you are uh you a lot, but I feel like you are uh you a lot, but I feel like you are uh you are guilty of single variable thinking, are guilty of single variable thinking, are guilty of single variable thinking, ignoring cultural cultural and morality. ignoring cultural cultural and morality. ignoring cultural cultural and morality. Some people willingly turn down wealth Some people willingly turn down wealth Some people willingly turn down wealth for integrity or even die for their for integrity or even die for their for integrity or even die for their principles." principles." principles." >> There is a religious aspect to this all. >> There is a religious aspect to this all. >> There is a religious aspect to this all. There is a cuz we we can't call them There is a cuz we we can't call them There is a cuz we we can't call them radical Islamists and then not think radical Islamists and then not think radical Islamists and then not think though their religion will have though their religion will have though their religion will have something to do with how they fight this something to do with how they fight this something to do with how they fight this war. war. war. >> Yeah. So, it's a very fair point and I >> Yeah. So, it's a very fair point and I >> Yeah. So, it's a very fair point and I want to make sure that people understand want to make sure that people understand want to make sure that people understand first of all when I lay out five first of all when I lay out five first of all when I lay out five variables, Marushia, it is very um variables, Marushia, it is very um variables, Marushia, it is very um insincere because you're a long-standing insincere because you're a long-standing insincere because you're a long-standing member of the community. I know you member of the community. I know you member of the community. I know you don't mean it like that, but I'm don't mean it like that, but I'm don't mean it like that, but I'm certainly not reducing this down to a certainly not reducing this down to a certainly not reducing this down to a single variable. Um, and I think what single variable. Um, and I think what single variable. Um, and I think what you're trying to get me to focus on is you're trying to get me to focus on is you're trying to get me to focus on is what is the role of the religious what is the role of the religious what is the role of the religious aspect? And I will say this, it's not aspect? And I will say this, it's not aspect? And I will say this, it's not zero. It's not zero in the buildup, but zero. It's not zero in the buildup, but zero. It's not zero in the buildup, but how did we get the people to rise up? how did we get the people to rise up? how did we get the people to rise up? I'll let people take a second, write it I'll let people take a second, write it I'll let people take a second, write it in the chat. How did we do it? Did we go in the chat. How did we do it? Did we go in the chat. How did we do it? Did we go and say uh remember Iranian people, the and say uh remember Iranian people, the and say uh remember Iranian people, the God that they are um ruling you with is God that they are um ruling you with is God that they are um ruling you with is not the true God. The real God that you not the true God. The real God that you not the true God. The real God that you should be rising up in the name is is should be rising up in the name is is should be rising up in the name is is whatever a different interpretation of whatever a different interpretation of whatever a different interpretation of Allah, Jesus Christ. No, we did not do Allah, Jesus Christ. No, we did not do Allah, Jesus Christ. No, we did not do that. What did we do? We broke their that. What did we do? We broke their that. What did we do? We broke their [ __ ] back economically. [ __ ] back economically. [ __ ] back economically. Okay. So, I get it. That stuff you're Okay. So, I get it. That stuff you're Okay. So, I get it. That stuff you're 100% right. And humans need that thing 100% right. And humans need that thing 100% right. And humans need that thing to live and die for. I agree to live and die for. I agree to live and die for. I agree wholeheartedly. Religion is how we wholeheartedly. Religion is how we wholeheartedly. Religion is how we organize large groups of people. Values organize large groups of people. Values organize large groups of people. Values matter so much. I harp on about how matter so much. I harp on about how matter so much. I harp on about how important values are. There's no doubt important values are. There's no doubt important values are. There's no doubt about that. And I don't want to gloss about that. And I don't want to gloss about that. And I don't want to gloss over that. What I'm trying to explain is over that. What I'm trying to explain is over that. What I'm trying to explain is why now? What's the real motivation why now? What's the real motivation why now? What's the real motivation right now? And if we want to talk about right now? And if we want to talk about right now? And if we want to talk about how we end up with a religious uprising, how we end up with a religious uprising, how we end up with a religious uprising, we can certainly do that. You know, we can certainly do that. You know, we can certainly do that. You know, where they take power in 1979, where they take power in 1979, where they take power in 1979, we can talk about life through a we can talk about life through a we can talk about life through a religious angle for sure. We can talk religious angle for sure. We can talk religious angle for sure. We can talk about is that part of why the IRGC is about is that part of why the IRGC is about is that part of why the IRGC is fighting as hard as they are. Is that fighting as hard as they are. Is that fighting as hard as they are. Is that why you still see moral police on the why you still see moral police on the why you still see moral police on the trains in Iran even as the people are trains in Iran even as the people are trains in Iran even as the people are stopping to wear their hijabs, which is stopping to wear their hijabs, which is stopping to wear their hijabs, which is happening right now? All of that. We can happening right now? All of that. We can happening right now? All of that. We can have that conversation. But if you want have that conversation. But if you want have that conversation. But if you want to understand what gears turn to make to understand what gears turn to make to understand what gears turn to make something happen right now, religion is something happen right now, religion is something happen right now, religion is going to leave you wanting. And the going to leave you wanting. And the going to leave you wanting. And the thing that will explain it is going to thing that will explain it is going to thing that will explain it is going to be economics. Like even if you look at be economics. Like even if you look at be economics. Like even if you look at the history of the Crusades and how the history of the Crusades and how the history of the Crusades and how those guys would be marching into a those guys would be marching into a those guys would be marching into a place, oh, and they'd real fast uh stop, place, oh, and they'd real fast uh stop, place, oh, and they'd real fast uh stop, pillage, grab resources, capture slaves, pillage, grab resources, capture slaves, pillage, grab resources, capture slaves, and then head into uh do the actual and then head into uh do the actual and then head into uh do the actual fighting. And I'm not saying that those fighting. And I'm not saying that those fighting. And I'm not saying that those guys really weren't setting off um as a guys really weren't setting off um as a guys really weren't setting off um as a way to reclaim Holy Land. For sure, for way to reclaim Holy Land. For sure, for way to reclaim Holy Land. For sure, for sure that plays in all of this. Um but sure that plays in all of this. Um but sure that plays in all of this. Um but when you look like if you're going to when you look like if you're going to when you look like if you're going to oversimplify, oversimplifying in the oversimplify, oversimplifying in the oversimplify, oversimplifying in the direction of religion will confuse you. direction of religion will confuse you. direction of religion will confuse you. Oversimplifying in the direction of Oversimplifying in the direction of Oversimplifying in the direction of economics will get you far closer to the economics will get you far closer to the economics will get you far closer to the truth. But I like to think I'm not truth. But I like to think I'm not truth. But I like to think I'm not oversimplifying. I'm trying to lay all oversimplifying. I'm trying to lay all oversimplifying. I'm trying to lay all these things out on the table. Um, I these things out on the table. Um, I these things out on the table. Um, I didn't spend a lot of time talking about didn't spend a lot of time talking about didn't spend a lot of time talking about religion because I don't think it's a religion because I don't think it's a religion because I don't think it's a big play in terms of what's happening big play in terms of what's happening big play in terms of what's happening right now. It's got an impact on context right now. It's got an impact on context right now. It's got an impact on context for sure. It speaks to the IRGC for for sure. It speaks to the IRGC for for sure. It speaks to the IRGC for sure. There's something utterly sure. There's something utterly sure. There's something utterly fascinating in terms of what's playing fascinating in terms of what's playing fascinating in terms of what's playing out uh across Europe. And if you want to out uh across Europe. And if you want to out uh across Europe. And if you want to talk religion, Kristarmharma, and the talk religion, Kristarmharma, and the talk religion, Kristarmharma, and the way that he's approaching this, I think way that he's approaching this, I think way that he's approaching this, I think is an echo of religion. And so there are is an echo of religion. And so there are is an echo of religion. And so there are very interesting conversations to be very interesting conversations to be very interesting conversations to be had. I just don't think they're the had. I just don't think they're the had. I just don't think they're the immediate answer to why. now. immediate answer to why. now. immediate answer to why. now. >> Um, taking it a little higher. Let's go >> Um, taking it a little higher. Let's go >> Um, taking it a little higher. Let's go to like the 40,000 ft level. Um, my to like the 40,000 ft level. Um, my to like the 40,000 ft level. Um, my nephew text me this weekend right after nephew text me this weekend right after nephew text me this weekend right after the strikes. And he was like, "Hey, why the strikes. And he was like, "Hey, why the strikes. And he was like, "Hey, why do wars start? Like, maybe you can ask do wars start? Like, maybe you can ask do wars start? Like, maybe you can ask Tom to break that down. Like, how do we Tom to break that down. Like, how do we Tom to break that down. Like, how do we even get there?" And me, you know, I even get there?" And me, you know, I even get there?" And me, you know, I stay in a tinfoil hat suit. I was like, stay in a tinfoil hat suit. I was like, stay in a tinfoil hat suit. I was like, "Oh, the bankers. It's the Fed. They're "Oh, the bankers. It's the Fed. They're "Oh, the bankers. It's the Fed. They're just trying to make money. The just trying to make money. The just trying to make money. The economics." So, I immediately went to economics." So, I immediately went to economics." So, I immediately went to conspiracy theory. This is what's conspiracy theory. This is what's conspiracy theory. This is what's happening. There's a bunch of elites. happening. There's a bunch of elites. happening. There's a bunch of elites. They want to increase oil prices. So, They want to increase oil prices. So, They want to increase oil prices. So, that's my like go-to. But taking a step that's my like go-to. But taking a step that's my like go-to. But taking a step back, how do you think we end up in back, how do you think we end up in back, how do you think we end up in wars? How do you think these things wars? How do you think these things wars? How do you think these things happen from just a broader Polyana happen from just a broader Polyana happen from just a broader Polyana perspective? Not necessarily perspective? Not necessarily perspective? Not necessarily specifically to this war, but we seem to specifically to this war, but we seem to specifically to this war, but we seem to always have our foot in the Middle East. always have our foot in the Middle East. always have our foot in the Middle East. We seem to always have a conflict with We seem to always have a conflict with We seem to always have a conflict with us every couple years. What is this us every couple years. What is this us every couple years. What is this unseen driving factor that pushes us unseen driving factor that pushes us unseen driving factor that pushes us into like these conflicts? into like these conflicts? into like these conflicts? >> If you want to know why people go to >> If you want to know why people go to >> If you want to know why people go to war, we go to war for the architecture war, we go to war for the architecture war, we go to war for the architecture of the human mind. Humans are ambitious of the human mind. Humans are ambitious of the human mind. Humans are ambitious creatures. They are selfish. They are creatures. They are selfish. They are creatures. They are selfish. They are driven to master their area. They are driven to master their area. They are driven to master their area. They are driven to um conquer and expand. And driven to um conquer and expand. And driven to um conquer and expand. And when you get we are economic units and when you get we are economic units and when you get we are economic units and that we have to acquire resources in that we have to acquire resources in that we have to acquire resources in order to make it good for our order to make it good for our order to make it good for our population. Leaders have to maintain the population. Leaders have to maintain the population. Leaders have to maintain the will of their people and that is a very will of their people and that is a very will of their people and that is a very complicated and difficult thing to do. complicated and difficult thing to do. complicated and difficult thing to do. You can do it by uplifting them. Uh You can do it by uplifting them. Uh You can do it by uplifting them. Uh America obviously did that. China has America obviously did that. China has America obviously did that. China has done that. You can do that by repressing done that. You can do that by repressing done that. You can do that by repressing them. China's certainly done that. Uh them. China's certainly done that. Uh them. China's certainly done that. Uh and so when you stop and ask yourself and so when you stop and ask yourself and so when you stop and ask yourself what exactly drives somebody to go into what exactly drives somebody to go into what exactly drives somebody to go into a war, that's going to be very different a war, that's going to be very different a war, that's going to be very different for the elite groups that actually do for the elite groups that actually do for the elite groups that actually do exist and the bankers and what they're exist and the bankers and what they're exist and the bankers and what they're pushing for. And so they can often be at pushing for. And so they can often be at pushing for. And so they can often be at odds with the people. And so typically I odds with the people. And so typically I odds with the people. And so typically I would say it plays out something like would say it plays out something like would say it plays out something like this. There is an economic aka power this. There is an economic aka power this. There is an economic aka power grab that is going on and it is sold to grab that is going on and it is sold to grab that is going on and it is sold to the people in moral terms. We are right. the people in moral terms. We are right. the people in moral terms. We are right. We are God's chosen people. We are the We are God's chosen people. We are the We are God's chosen people. We are the just ones. God is on our side. That's just ones. God is on our side. That's just ones. God is on our side. That's how it plays out at the narrative level. how it plays out at the narrative level. how it plays out at the narrative level. And that is how you whip up the average And that is how you whip up the average And that is how you whip up the average person. You get them going and motivated person. You get them going and motivated person. You get them going and motivated enough to move forward. But in terms of enough to move forward. But in terms of enough to move forward. But in terms of what is the actual thing, I think for what is the actual thing, I think for what is the actual thing, I think for the most part, I'm not saying that there the most part, I'm not saying that there the most part, I'm not saying that there aren't wars that are driven more by aren't wars that are driven more by aren't wars that are driven more by religion than anything else. religion than anything else. religion than anything else. But I think that when you really look at But I think that when you really look at But I think that when you really look at the motivating factor that's happening the motivating factor that's happening the motivating factor that's happening at the level of the elites, who are the at the level of the elites, who are the at the level of the elites, who are the people, the iron law of oligarchy, who people, the iron law of oligarchy, who people, the iron law of oligarchy, who are the people that are going to pull are the people that are going to pull are the people that are going to pull people forward, actually get in the people forward, actually get in the people forward, actually get in the private meetings and have the private meetings and have the private meetings and have the conversations about developing the conversations about developing the conversations about developing the weapons and about positioning assets and weapons and about positioning assets and weapons and about positioning assets and about building allyships and all of about building allyships and all of about building allyships and all of that. How do you get an ally in board in that. How do you get an ally in board in that. How do you get an ally in board in the region? How do you do it? You've got the region? How do you do it? You've got the region? How do you do it? You've got to find a way that's good for them. in to find a way that's good for them. in to find a way that's good for them. in business, how do you put yourself in a business, how do you put yourself in a business, how do you put yourself in a position where you're going to get position where you're going to get position where you're going to get somebody to help you? You've got to find somebody to help you? You've got to find somebody to help you? You've got to find a way where it's the best thing for a way where it's the best thing for a way where it's the best thing for them. In any negotiation, you have them. In any negotiation, you have them. In any negotiation, you have leverage if and only if somebody wants leverage if and only if somebody wants leverage if and only if somebody wants something from you. And so, you've got something from you. And so, you've got something from you. And so, you've got to go figure out what is that something to go figure out what is that something to go figure out what is that something that somebody wants from you. When you that somebody wants from you. When you that somebody wants from you. When you understand that even within religious understand that even within religious understand that even within religious organizations, there's going to be a organizations, there's going to be a organizations, there's going to be a power struggle. Even within religious power struggle. Even within religious power struggle. Even within religious organizations, what's one of the most organizations, what's one of the most organizations, what's one of the most rapid abuses? Money. So when you start rapid abuses? Money. So when you start rapid abuses? Money. So when you start looking at things through the lens of looking at things through the lens of looking at things through the lens of that, then it's like you get how these that, then it's like you get how these that, then it's like you get how these things are all muddled and mixed up. But things are all muddled and mixed up. But things are all muddled and mixed up. But it is ultimately a desire for some sort it is ultimately a desire for some sort it is ultimately a desire for some sort of resource, money, land, food. of resource, money, land, food. of resource, money, land, food. I'm going to say it, women. Uh then you I'm going to say it, women. Uh then you I'm going to say it, women. Uh then you begin to understand what drives people begin to understand what drives people begin to understand what drives people to push forward. to push forward. to push forward. Now, it gets very complex and I didn't Now, it gets very complex and I didn't Now, it gets very complex and I didn't get into all the politics, but it's like get into all the politics, but it's like get into all the politics, but it's like uh in fact, let me lay one thing out uh in fact, let me lay one thing out uh in fact, let me lay one thing out here and I really want you to come hard here and I really want you to come hard here and I really want you to come hard at me with this and if there's something at me with this and if there's something at me with this and if there's something in the chat that's meaningful, hit me in the chat that's meaningful, hit me in the chat that's meaningful, hit me with it. with it. with it. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> so if you think of when somebody says >> so if you think of when somebody says >> so if you think of when somebody says negotiations, what they're really negotiations, what they're really negotiations, what they're really talking about is I've got to find a way talking about is I've got to find a way talking about is I've got to find a way to make you want the same thing that I to make you want the same thing that I to make you want the same thing that I want. And if people would spend time want. And if people would spend time want. And if people would spend time thinking about that, I think they would thinking about that, I think they would thinking about that, I think they would things would click into place for them. things would click into place for them. things would click into place for them. Once I realized as a business guy that Once I realized as a business guy that Once I realized as a business guy that you would so often walk into a you would so often walk into a you would so often walk into a negotiation and either you were making negotiation and either you were making negotiation and either you were making the mistake or the other side was making the mistake or the other side was making the mistake or the other side was making the mistake where they knew how it was the mistake where they knew how it was the mistake where they knew how it was good for them, but they didn't know how good for them, but they didn't know how good for them, but they didn't know how it was good for you. And in a it was good for you. And in a it was good for you. And in a negotiation to get somebody to act, you negotiation to get somebody to act, you negotiation to get somebody to act, you have to figure out how it's good for have to figure out how it's good for have to figure out how it's good for them. And when the thing you want can be them. And when the thing you want can be them. And when the thing you want can be positioned as good for them, now you can positioned as good for them, now you can positioned as good for them, now you can move forward. Okay, what's a small move forward. Okay, what's a small move forward. Okay, what's a small handful of things that are going to be handful of things that are going to be handful of things that are going to be good for them? Like when you think about good for them? Like when you think about good for them? Like when you think about what's really going to make people vote what's really going to make people vote what's really going to make people vote for you. Um let's say that you are for you. Um let's say that you are for you. Um let's say that you are making their lives worse economically, making their lives worse economically, making their lives worse economically, right? We don't have to look any farther right? We don't have to look any farther right? We don't have to look any farther than Iran. So America sets about making than Iran. So America sets about making than Iran. So America sets about making Iran's life difficult economically. Iran's life difficult economically. Iran's life difficult economically. Cool. So now Iran can go to the people Cool. So now Iran can go to the people Cool. So now Iran can go to the people and say, "God works in mysterious ways. and say, "God works in mysterious ways. and say, "God works in mysterious ways. God wants us to kill the infidels." And God wants us to kill the infidels." And God wants us to kill the infidels." And so be strong, guys. Like bear with I so be strong, guys. Like bear with I so be strong, guys. Like bear with I look I know you're starving. I know your look I know you're starving. I know your look I know you're starving. I know your baby just died in its crib because you baby just died in its crib because you baby just died in its crib because you couldn't feed it, but like this is what couldn't feed it, but like this is what couldn't feed it, but like this is what God wants. How far do you really think God wants. How far do you really think God wants. How far do you really think that goes? Every now and then you will that goes? Every now and then you will that goes? Every now and then you will get something super crazy and the people get something super crazy and the people get something super crazy and the people are so like in it that they'll ride with are so like in it that they'll ride with are so like in it that they'll ride with it. But normally the second that you it. But normally the second that you it. But normally the second that you break things economically, people start break things economically, people start break things economically, people start going, hm, how much? Yes, I still going, hm, how much? Yes, I still going, hm, how much? Yes, I still believe in God. Still believe that um believe in God. Still believe that um believe in God. Still believe that um all the things that I believed about all the things that I believed about all the things that I believed about what God wants and all that, but now I'm what God wants and all that, but now I'm what God wants and all that, but now I'm not so sure that God is talking to you. not so sure that God is talking to you. not so sure that God is talking to you. I think you now might be a false I think you now might be a false I think you now might be a false prophet. Now, what triggered that? prophet. Now, what triggered that? prophet. Now, what triggered that? Economics. You're making somebody's life Economics. You're making somebody's life Economics. You're making somebody's life worse. Why? Because economics is about worse. Why? Because economics is about worse. Why? Because economics is about resources. Why does that matter? Because resources. Why does that matter? Because resources. Why does that matter? Because starving to death is not a fun way to starving to death is not a fun way to starving to death is not a fun way to die. And so, freezing to death is not a die. And so, freezing to death is not a die. And so, freezing to death is not a fun way to die. um all of these things fun way to die. um all of these things fun way to die. um all of these things like modern civilization is weak people like modern civilization is weak people like modern civilization is weak people that came together and said, "Oh, I get that came together and said, "Oh, I get that came together and said, "Oh, I get how to be strong." The way to be strong how to be strong." The way to be strong how to be strong." The way to be strong and strong means acquire resources in and strong means acquire resources in and strong means acquire resources in abundance abundance abundance >> and stop other people from taking your >> and stop other people from taking your >> and stop other people from taking your resources. Okay, so how do I do that? We resources. Okay, so how do I do that? We resources. Okay, so how do I do that? We band together. Now, how do I get band together. Now, how do I get band together. Now, how do I get everybody to band together? Religion. everybody to band together? Religion. everybody to band together? Religion. But if you don't see how resources came But if you don't see how resources came But if you don't see how resources came first and religion came second, you're first and religion came second, you're first and religion came second, you're in trouble. It is very rare. I'm not in trouble. It is very rare. I'm not in trouble. It is very rare. I'm not saying that it never happens, but it's saying that it never happens, but it's saying that it never happens, but it's going to be very rare where people just going to be very rare where people just going to be very rare where people just sit peacefully and starve to death sit peacefully and starve to death sit peacefully and starve to death because that that's what God wants. So, because that that's what God wants. So, because that that's what God wants. So, you break them economically and they're you break them economically and they're you break them economically and they're going to rebel. But you can attack their going to rebel. But you can attack their going to rebel. But you can attack their religion and if you like give them space religion and if you like give them space religion and if you like give them space and don't [ __ ] up their resources, the and don't [ __ ] up their resources, the and don't [ __ ] up their resources, the odds that it escalates are just much odds that it escalates are just much odds that it escalates are just much much much lower. I won't say it never much much lower. I won't say it never much much lower. I won't say it never happens, but it's much lower. happens, but it's much lower. happens, but it's much lower. >> No, that that makes sense. That tracks. >> No, that that makes sense. That tracks. >> No, that that makes sense. That tracks. And I want to shout out Hopper NLD And I want to shout out Hopper NLD And I want to shout out Hopper NLD because they provided the perfect segue. because they provided the perfect segue. because they provided the perfect segue. They said, "Tom, this is all short They said, "Tom, this is all short They said, "Tom, this is all short short-term and small thinking. I think short-term and small thinking. I think short-term and small thinking. I think all conversations moving forward should all conversations moving forward should all conversations moving forward should be driven by how AI is going to make be driven by how AI is going to make be driven by how AI is going to make things moving how how AI is going to things moving how how AI is going to things moving how how AI is going to move things uh moving forward." I hope move things uh moving forward." I hope move things uh moving forward." I hope that made sense. Um, it had a typo and that made sense. Um, it had a typo and that made sense. Um, it had a typo and it messed me up on camera, so thank you it messed me up on camera, so thank you it messed me up on camera, so thank you Hopper for embarrassing me. Um, but Hopper for embarrassing me. Um, but Hopper for embarrassing me. Um, but there was something to the back and there was something to the back and there was something to the back and forth between Anthropic and the forth between Anthropic and the forth between Anthropic and the Department of War. Um, Palmer Lucky got Department of War. Um, Palmer Lucky got Department of War. Um, Palmer Lucky got involved, Alex Karp got involved, involved, Alex Karp got involved, involved, Alex Karp got involved, everybody kind of had something to say everybody kind of had something to say everybody kind of had something to say about it. This was the first time I about it. This was the first time I about it. This was the first time I think in the modern era transparently we think in the modern era transparently we think in the modern era transparently we saw wait a second they're using saw wait a second they're using saw wait a second they're using technology to do things that are technology to do things that are technology to do things that are constitutional violations under the constitutional violations under the constitutional violations under the guise of we are saving America. guise of we are saving America. guise of we are saving America. >> Where is that line and what was kind of >> Where is that line and what was kind of >> Where is that line and what was kind of your read as you approach that? your read as you approach that? your read as you approach that? >> Okay, this was from Hopper. >> Okay, this was from Hopper. >> Okay, this was from Hopper. >> Uh Hopper set us up and I'm I'm just >> Uh Hopper set us up and I'm I'm just >> Uh Hopper set us up and I'm I'm just stealing it. stealing it. stealing it. >> I just want to make sure I give Hopper >> I just want to make sure I give Hopper >> I just want to make sure I give Hopper is due credit because Hopper, you're is due credit because Hopper, you're is due credit because Hopper, you're absolutely right. That is completely absolutely right. That is completely absolutely right. That is completely brilliant. brilliant. brilliant. The war with Iran is going to be unlike The war with Iran is going to be unlike The war with Iran is going to be unlike anything that has ever come before in anything that has ever come before in anything that has ever come before in the history of warfare. In no small part the history of warfare. In no small part the history of warfare. In no small part because of technology, because of AI. because of technology, because of AI. because of technology, because of AI. You have to look at the role of AI and You have to look at the role of AI and You have to look at the role of AI and the maverick military scene that has the maverick military scene that has the maverick military scene that has exploded out of former Silicon Valley exploded out of former Silicon Valley exploded out of former Silicon Valley engineers. It is officially insane. If engineers. It is officially insane. If engineers. It is officially insane. If you zoom in and look at Elon, Palmer you zoom in and look at Elon, Palmer you zoom in and look at Elon, Palmer Lucky, Peter Teal, Alex Karp, Joe Lndale Lucky, Peter Teal, Alex Karp, Joe Lndale Lucky, Peter Teal, Alex Karp, Joe Lndale as builders who realize America is at an as builders who realize America is at an as builders who realize America is at an inflection point with China. Okay, this inflection point with China. Okay, this inflection point with China. Okay, this is where we risk as we look at the is where we risk as we look at the is where we risk as we look at the immediacy of the conflict with Iran, we immediacy of the conflict with Iran, we immediacy of the conflict with Iran, we forget that this is in no small part a forget that this is in no small part a forget that this is in no small part a proxy battle with China. and you project proxy battle with China. and you project proxy battle with China. and you project that down, what's going on in Iran is that down, what's going on in Iran is that down, what's going on in Iran is going to make a lot more sense. You'll going to make a lot more sense. You'll going to make a lot more sense. You'll have a better understanding of all of have a better understanding of all of have a better understanding of all of this as a behind-the-scenes proxy war. this as a behind-the-scenes proxy war. this as a behind-the-scenes proxy war. Now, this week, the Pentagon gave Now, this week, the Pentagon gave Now, this week, the Pentagon gave Anthropic, the company that makes Anthropic, the company that makes Anthropic, the company that makes Claude, one of the most powerful AI Claude, one of the most powerful AI Claude, one of the most powerful AI systems on the planet, by the way. You systems on the planet, by the way. You systems on the planet, by the way. You should be using it. They gave them an should be using it. They gave them an should be using it. They gave them an ultimatum. Drop your safety guard rails ultimatum. Drop your safety guard rails ultimatum. Drop your safety guard rails or we invoke the Defense Production Act or we invoke the Defense Production Act or we invoke the Defense Production Act and take your technology by force or at and take your technology by force or at and take your technology by force or at least ice you out of all government least ice you out of all government least ice you out of all government contracts. The Pentagon literally poses contracts. The Pentagon literally poses contracts. The Pentagon literally poses scenario to anthropic CEO. What if a scenario to anthropic CEO. What if a scenario to anthropic CEO. What if a nuclear missile is 90 seconds away from nuclear missile is 90 seconds away from nuclear missile is 90 seconds away from hitting America and your AI is the only hitting America and your AI is the only hitting America and your AI is the only thing that can trigger a response, but thing that can trigger a response, but thing that can trigger a response, but your guard rails won't let it. your guard rails won't let it. your guard rails won't let it. Think about that. We're having these Think about that. We're having these Think about that. We're having these conversations now conversations now conversations now >> about whether an AI, >> about whether an AI, >> about whether an AI, an AI and the company driving it gets to an AI and the company driving it gets to an AI and the company driving it gets to decide if America retaliates, decide if America retaliates, decide if America retaliates, strikes back, what it does, which has strikes back, what it does, which has strikes back, what it does, which has huge implications. huge implications. huge implications. Anthropic said, "No, Anthropic said, "No, Anthropic said, "No, we're this is a red line. We are not we're this is a red line. We are not we're this is a red line. We are not going to give you that ability." And by going to give you that ability." And by going to give you that ability." And by the way, people have loved them for it. the way, people have loved them for it. the way, people have loved them for it. and downloads of anthropic went through and downloads of anthropic went through and downloads of anthropic went through the roof of Clawude, I should say. Now, the roof of Clawude, I should say. Now, the roof of Clawude, I should say. Now, Trump ended up making good on the threat Trump ended up making good on the threat Trump ended up making good on the threat to label them a supply chain risk and to label them a supply chain risk and to label them a supply chain risk and boot them from government contracts boot them from government contracts boot them from government contracts entirely. Within hours, Open AI swooped entirely. Within hours, Open AI swooped entirely. Within hours, Open AI swooped in and signed a deal with the Pentagon in and signed a deal with the Pentagon in and signed a deal with the Pentagon for classified network access. for classified network access. for classified network access. >> We'll kill everybody. Chat will kill >> We'll kill everybody. Chat will kill >> We'll kill everybody. Chat will kill whoever you need us to. Just point the whoever you need us to. Just point the whoever you need us to. Just point the bomb to it. I'm here. Whatever you need. bomb to it. I'm here. Whatever you need. bomb to it. I'm here. Whatever you need. I need the stock price to recover. I need the stock price to recover. I need the stock price to recover. >> Dude, truer words never spoken. No >> Dude, truer words never spoken. No >> Dude, truer words never spoken. No guardrails, no restrictions. Sam Alman guardrails, no restrictions. Sam Alman guardrails, no restrictions. Sam Alman even admitted that the deal was rushed. even admitted that the deal was rushed. even admitted that the deal was rushed. The optics terrible, but the deal got The optics terrible, but the deal got The optics terrible, but the deal got done. Now, all eyes on Palmer are lucky, done. Now, all eyes on Palmer are lucky, done. Now, all eyes on Palmer are lucky, please. This guy is incredible. He's the please. This guy is incredible. He's the please. This guy is incredible. He's the guy that built Oculus, sold it for two guy that built Oculus, sold it for two guy that built Oculus, sold it for two billion bucks to Meta. Then he started billion bucks to Meta. Then he started billion bucks to Meta. Then he started Andre, one of the most dynamic modern Andre, one of the most dynamic modern Andre, one of the most dynamic modern era defense companies focused on era defense companies focused on era defense companies focused on building light lethal drone era building light lethal drone era building light lethal drone era militaryra technology. That company is militaryra technology. That company is militaryra technology. That company is now worth $60 billion. This kid is now worth $60 billion. This kid is now worth $60 billion. This kid is incredible. He's out here saying that incredible. He's out here saying that incredible. He's out here saying that any tech company refusing to work with any tech company refusing to work with any tech company refusing to work with the military is pushing us towards a, the military is pushing us towards a, the military is pushing us towards a, this is his word, uh, corportocracy. this is his word, uh, corportocracy. this is his word, uh, corportocracy. He said refusing to work with the He said refusing to work with the He said refusing to work with the Pentagon is really, really dangerous and Pentagon is really, really dangerous and Pentagon is really, really dangerous and his company is already deploying his company is already deploying his company is already deploying autonomous weapons in Ukraine. Then autonomous weapons in Ukraine. Then autonomous weapons in Ukraine. Then you've got Alex Karp, the CEO of you've got Alex Karp, the CEO of you've got Alex Karp, the CEO of Palunteer, whose software is literally Palunteer, whose software is literally Palunteer, whose software is literally integrated into the Pentagon's integrated into the Pentagon's integrated into the Pentagon's classified systems through the exact classified systems through the exact classified systems through the exact anthropic deal that just got blown up. anthropic deal that just got blown up. anthropic deal that just got blown up. Now, Karp said at Davos that AIdriven Now, Karp said at Davos that AIdriven Now, Karp said at Davos that AIdriven warfare systems are the equivalent of warfare systems are the equivalent of warfare systems are the equivalent of tactical nuclear weapons. He said, "The tactical nuclear weapons. He said, "The tactical nuclear weapons. He said, "The West's only path to peace is projecting West's only path to peace is projecting West's only path to peace is projecting such overwhelming technological such overwhelming technological such overwhelming technological superiority that our adversaries are superiority that our adversaries are superiority that our adversaries are just too scared to do anything." Now, just too scared to do anything." Now, just too scared to do anything." Now, zoom back out. zoom back out. zoom back out. These tech titans have been warning us These tech titans have been warning us These tech titans have been warning us about China for a while. They know that about China for a while. They know that about China for a while. They know that China is the endgame in the battle for China is the endgame in the battle for China is the endgame in the battle for the new world order. Now, we are a the new world order. Now, we are a the new world order. Now, we are a headline society and so it can be very headline society and so it can be very headline society and so it can be very easy to forget there's like Mexican drug easy to forget there's like Mexican drug easy to forget there's like Mexican drug cartels doing their best to take over cartels doing their best to take over cartels doing their best to take over Mexico. We can forget that China is in Mexico. We can forget that China is in Mexico. We can forget that China is in dire straits in terms of they want to dire straits in terms of they want to dire straits in terms of they want to take over their hemisphere. They want to take over their hemisphere. They want to take over their hemisphere. They want to go into Taiwan by 2027 and we want to go into Taiwan by 2027 and we want to go into Taiwan by 2027 and we want to try and stop them. So, we're doing try and stop them. So, we're doing try and stop them. So, we're doing little economic things here and there to little economic things here and there to little economic things here and there to try to make things difficult for them. try to make things difficult for them. try to make things difficult for them. And this week, China ramped up their And this week, China ramped up their And this week, China ramped up their military coordination with Iran. Beijing military coordination with Iran. Beijing military coordination with Iran. Beijing deployed surveillance ships in the deployed surveillance ships in the deployed surveillance ships in the Persian Gulf to monitor American Persian Gulf to monitor American Persian Gulf to monitor American operations. Putin suddenly said he's operations. Putin suddenly said he's operations. Putin suddenly said he's willing to negotiate with Ukraine, which willing to negotiate with Ukraine, which willing to negotiate with Ukraine, which that could create something weird with that could create something weird with that could create something weird with China. Trump floated a friendly takeover China. Trump floated a friendly takeover China. Trump floated a friendly takeover of Cuba. of Cuba. of Cuba. This is one of those in any other day This is one of those in any other day This is one of those in any other day that'd be the headline. A friendly that'd be the headline. A friendly that'd be the headline. A friendly takeover. What? Oh, I'm sorry. What? I takeover. What? Oh, I'm sorry. What? I takeover. What? Oh, I'm sorry. What? I I'm going to take your house, bro. But I'm going to take your house, bro. But I'm going to take your house, bro. But I'm going to do it in a friendly I'm going to do it in a friendly I'm going to do it in a friendly fashion. Now, it really is in terms of fashion. Now, it really is in terms of fashion. Now, it really is in terms of if the people hate their government, how if the people hate their government, how if the people hate their government, how do you get them to hate their do you get them to hate their do you get them to hate their government? You starve them. So, again, government? You starve them. So, again, government? You starve them. So, again, playing out economically over in Cuba. playing out economically over in Cuba. playing out economically over in Cuba. The German Chancellor Friedrich Murs The German Chancellor Friedrich Murs The German Chancellor Friedrich Murs came back from visiting Beijing and told came back from visiting Beijing and told came back from visiting Beijing and told his country, and I'm paraphrasing here, his country, and I'm paraphrasing here, his country, and I'm paraphrasing here, but this gets pretty close. but this gets pretty close. but this gets pretty close. work life balance and four day work work life balance and four day work work life balance and four day work weeks will not cut it anymore because weeks will not cut it anymore because weeks will not cut it anymore because China is simply outworking Europe. Boys China is simply outworking Europe. Boys China is simply outworking Europe. Boys and girls, this is a technology game and girls, this is a technology game and girls, this is a technology game now. This is a technology game. now. This is a technology game. now. This is a technology game. Remember, game theory makes this very Remember, game theory makes this very Remember, game theory makes this very clear. Any technology that promises an clear. Any technology that promises an clear. Any technology that promises an advantage will be developed. What has advantage will be developed. What has advantage will be developed. What has Europe spent the last multiple decades Europe spent the last multiple decades Europe spent the last multiple decades doing? dick riding the US, letting us doing? dick riding the US, letting us doing? dick riding the US, letting us pay for everything, all while regulating pay for everything, all while regulating pay for everything, all while regulating their country to death. And I've shown their country to death. And I've shown their country to death. And I've shown this stat before, but the number of this stat before, but the number of this stat before, but the number of billion-dollar companies that the US billion-dollar companies that the US billion-dollar companies that the US kicks off is insane. And the number of kicks off is insane. And the number of kicks off is insane. And the number of billion-dollar companies kicked off in billion-dollar companies kicked off in billion-dollar companies kicked off in Europe is minuscule. And the reason is Europe is minuscule. And the reason is Europe is minuscule. And the reason is that they are not pro-inovation. that they are not pro-inovation. that they are not pro-inovation. Literally, like in their DNA at this Literally, like in their DNA at this Literally, like in their DNA at this point, they are not pro- innovation. point, they are not pro- innovation. point, they are not pro- innovation. They want to lock things down. They want They want to lock things down. They want They want to lock things down. They want to regulate their way to god knows what. to regulate their way to god knows what. to regulate their way to god knows what. Just a a world that's childproofed at Just a a world that's childproofed at Just a a world that's childproofed at every corner where there's nothing every corner where there's nothing every corner where there's nothing potentially bad or dangerous. And they potentially bad or dangerous. And they potentially bad or dangerous. And they have regulated themselves into absolute have regulated themselves into absolute have regulated themselves into absolute irrelevance. And now as the US is irrelevance. And now as the US is irrelevance. And now as the US is pulling their funding, they're suddenly pulling their funding, they're suddenly pulling their funding, they're suddenly realizing, oh [ __ ] Russia has invaded realizing, oh [ __ ] Russia has invaded realizing, oh [ __ ] Russia has invaded Ukraine. They're threatening to push Ukraine. They're threatening to push Ukraine. They're threatening to push deeper into Europe if we're not able to deeper into Europe if we're not able to deeper into Europe if we're not able to protect ourselves. protect ourselves. protect ourselves. And how are we going to protect And how are we going to protect And how are we going to protect ourselves? Oh, that's right. We need ourselves? Oh, that's right. We need ourselves? Oh, that's right. We need technology. This is a technological technology. This is a technological technology. This is a technological warfront. This is about AI now. Okay? AI warfront. This is about AI now. Okay? AI warfront. This is about AI now. Okay? AI is not a future thing anymore. AI is is not a future thing anymore. AI is is not a future thing anymore. AI is here today. And all this [ __ ] hogwash here today. And all this [ __ ] hogwash here today. And all this [ __ ] hogwash that people are talking about having that people are talking about having that people are talking about having like some moral push back against AI is like some moral push back against AI is like some moral push back against AI is is so suicidal. Boys and girls, you will is so suicidal. Boys and girls, you will is so suicidal. Boys and girls, you will relegate yourself to irrelevance. Build relegate yourself to irrelevance. Build relegate yourself to irrelevance. Build AI as safely as you can. Nobody wants AI as safely as you can. Nobody wants AI as safely as you can. Nobody wants that more than me. I don't want to get that more than me. I don't want to get that more than me. I don't want to get taken over by robots any more than you taken over by robots any more than you taken over by robots any more than you do. But the reality is you create an do. But the reality is you create an do. But the reality is you create an opening that will be exploited by other opening that will be exploited by other opening that will be exploited by other countries if you're not on top of your countries if you're not on top of your countries if you're not on top of your [ __ ] if you don't have a tight like [ __ ] if you don't have a tight like [ __ ] if you don't have a tight like relationship with these incredible relationship with these incredible relationship with these incredible builders that are building the most builders that are building the most builders that are building the most consequential technology that has ever consequential technology that has ever consequential technology that has ever been built. And I'm saying that in the been built. And I'm saying that in the been built. And I'm saying that in the face of understanding nuclear war, but face of understanding nuclear war, but face of understanding nuclear war, but the most consequential, the most likely the most consequential, the most likely the most consequential, the most likely to change everything about the world is to change everything about the world is to change everything about the world is AI. It's intelligence itself. AI. It's intelligence itself. AI. It's intelligence itself. AI isn't a product anymore. It's a AI isn't a product anymore. It's a AI isn't a product anymore. It's a weapon system. weapon system. weapon system. The companies building it are being The companies building it are being The companies building it are being drawn into military efforts drawn into military efforts drawn into military efforts understandably so. The nations deploying understandably so. The nations deploying understandably so. The nations deploying it are drawing new lines on the map. And it are drawing new lines on the map. And it are drawing new lines on the map. And the ones who don't keep up, the ones who don't keep up, the ones who don't keep up, they're going to get slapped around. they're going to get slapped around. they're going to get slapped around. The old world is over. The war you're The old world is over. The war you're The old world is over. The war you're seeing isn't fought with missiles. seeing isn't fought with missiles. seeing isn't fought with missiles. Certainly not alone. It's fought with Certainly not alone. It's fought with Certainly not alone. It's fought with models. It's fought with autonomous models. It's fought with autonomous models. It's fought with autonomous drones. It's fought with data centers, drones. It's fought with data centers, drones. It's fought with data centers, which is why they're striking AWS which is why they're striking AWS which is why they're striking AWS centers. centers. centers. It's just a whole new world. It's just a whole new world. It's just a whole new world. Nobody's used to it. Nobody knows how to Nobody's used to it. Nobody knows how to Nobody's used to it. Nobody knows how to deal with it. Nobody knows how to deal with it. Nobody knows how to deal with it. Nobody knows how to regulate it. But what MS was saying, regulate it. But what MS was saying, regulate it. But what MS was saying, remember he said it right after coming remember he said it right after coming remember he said it right after coming back from China. What MS is saying is, back from China. What MS is saying is, back from China. What MS is saying is, we've got to get way more hardcore. I we've got to get way more hardcore. I we've got to get way more hardcore. I get you on a 4-day week. you will be get you on a 4-day week. you will be get you on a 4-day week. you will be speaking Chinese in the near future if speaking Chinese in the near future if speaking Chinese in the near future if you think that you can approach this you think that you can approach this you think that you can approach this moment in history with that energy. The moment in history with that energy. The moment in history with that energy. The reality is we can't. We have to wake up. reality is we can't. We have to wake up. reality is we can't. We have to wake up. We've got to snap out of this postWorld We've got to snap out of this postWorld We've got to snap out of this postWorld War II like carb coma where we don't War II like carb coma where we don't War II like carb coma where we don't think that we have to be ultra hardcore think that we have to be ultra hardcore think that we have to be ultra hardcore where we think that we can just offer a where we think that we can just offer a where we think that we can just offer a bunch of stuff for free. We've got to bunch of stuff for free. We've got to bunch of stuff for free. We've got to prize innovation. We have got to create prize innovation. We have got to create prize innovation. We have got to create a greased chute for Americans to a greased chute for Americans to a greased chute for Americans to innovate and to build incredible things. innovate and to build incredible things. innovate and to build incredible things. We've got to be manufacturing on our own We've got to be manufacturing on our own We've got to be manufacturing on our own shores. We've got to make sure that our shores. We've got to make sure that our shores. We've got to make sure that our supply chains are secure, that we're not supply chains are secure, that we're not supply chains are secure, that we're not letting our adversaries control critical letting our adversaries control critical letting our adversaries control critical pieces. Now, having grown up in the pieces. Now, having grown up in the pieces. Now, having grown up in the postWorld War II era, it was awesome postWorld War II era, it was awesome postWorld War II era, it was awesome while it lasted. And I'm very sad that while it lasted. And I'm very sad that while it lasted. And I'm very sad that the way that the human mind works that the way that the human mind works that the way that the human mind works that we it was inevitable that we were going we it was inevitable that we were going we it was inevitable that we were going to end up back here with a destabilized to end up back here with a destabilized to end up back here with a destabilized world where power has to be reexerted. world where power has to be reexerted. world where power has to be reexerted. But that's the world that we live in. So But that's the world that we live in. So But that's the world that we live in. So we've got to be prepared to understand we've got to be prepared to understand we've got to be prepared to understand everything has been changed by everything has been changed by everything has been changed by technology. We've got to want to draw technology. We've got to want to draw technology. We've got to want to draw our technologists in. And I still love our technologists in. And I still love our technologists in. And I still love that anthropic drew a red line. I love that anthropic drew a red line. I love that anthropic drew a red line. I love it. I think that there has to be that it. I think that there has to be that it. I think that there has to be that tension. I think that our um government tension. I think that our um government tension. I think that our um government is as likely to become abusive as is as likely to become abusive as is as likely to become abusive as anybody else's government. And so we anybody else's government. And so we anybody else's government. And so we need those checks and balances. So I'm need those checks and balances. So I'm need those checks and balances. So I'm here to applaud that. They were saying, here to applaud that. They were saying, here to applaud that. They were saying, "Hey, hold on a second. We've got to be "Hey, hold on a second. We've got to be "Hey, hold on a second. We've got to be careful here." And the way that you move careful here." And the way that you move careful here." And the way that you move forward is with that dynamic tension. We forward is with that dynamic tension. We forward is with that dynamic tension. We should want dynamic tension. We should should want dynamic tension. We should should want dynamic tension. We should want people that have the right to speak want people that have the right to speak want people that have the right to speak up and say, "This is not how I think up and say, "This is not how I think up and say, "This is not how I think this should go." We should remain a this should go." We should remain a this should go." We should remain a nation that prizes freedom of speech. so nation that prizes freedom of speech. so nation that prizes freedom of speech. so that people can push back when they that people can push back when they that people can push back when they think that their government is doing think that their government is doing think that their government is doing something wrong and we should take it something wrong and we should take it something wrong and we should take it very personally if our government very personally if our government very personally if our government becomes tyrannical and is trying to becomes tyrannical and is trying to becomes tyrannical and is trying to silence disscent. We should not want silence disscent. We should not want silence disscent. We should not want that. So shout out to Anthropic. I think that. So shout out to Anthropic. I think that. So shout out to Anthropic. I think it's amazing. Now I don't know if the it's amazing. Now I don't know if the it's amazing. Now I don't know if the following is true, but I know that it's following is true, but I know that it's following is true, but I know that it's believable. There are reports that believable. There are reports that believable. There are reports that Anthropic has missile defense systems on Anthropic has missile defense systems on Anthropic has missile defense systems on their San Francisco headquarters. I their San Francisco headquarters. I their San Francisco headquarters. I tried to debunk it. It may get debunked tried to debunk it. It may get debunked tried to debunk it. It may get debunked over time. Maybe it's all fake, but the over time. Maybe it's all fake, but the over time. Maybe it's all fake, but the reality is that that's believable. Even reality is that that's believable. Even reality is that that's believable. Even if it isn't true. And so once we if it isn't true. And so once we if it isn't true. And so once we understand where this is all going, it understand where this is all going, it understand where this is all going, it is going to be messy. It is going to be is going to be messy. It is going to be is going to be messy. It is going to be complicated. Depending on when you tune complicated. Depending on when you tune complicated. Depending on when you tune in, sometimes you're going to tell me, in, sometimes you're going to tell me, in, sometimes you're going to tell me, "Hey, we got to be way careful with this "Hey, we got to be way careful with this "Hey, we got to be way careful with this AI stuff." Then you're going to hear me AI stuff." Then you're going to hear me AI stuff." Then you're going to hear me say that any technology that promises an say that any technology that promises an say that any technology that promises an advantage is going to be developed. All advantage is going to be developed. All advantage is going to be developed. All of that is true. That is the messiness of that is true. That is the messiness of that is true. That is the messiness of what's going on. This is why no one of what's going on. This is why no one of what's going on. This is why no one person should think everyone should just person should think everyone should just person should think everyone should just listen to me. I certainly don't believe listen to me. I certainly don't believe listen to me. I certainly don't believe that about myself. I hope you guys don't that about myself. I hope you guys don't that about myself. I hope you guys don't believe that about anybody. Our system believe that about anybody. Our system believe that about anybody. Our system works precisely because we have that works precisely because we have that works precisely because we have that dynamic tension precisely because people dynamic tension precisely because people dynamic tension precisely because people can vote for anthropic with their can vote for anthropic with their can vote for anthropic with their dollars and put open AAI more at risk dollars and put open AAI more at risk dollars and put open AAI more at risk because they think that OpenAI is doing because they think that OpenAI is doing because they think that OpenAI is doing something that they don't want to do. something that they don't want to do. something that they don't want to do. And use that power. Make sure you And use that power. Make sure you And use that power. Make sure you understand what you believe. Make sure understand what you believe. Make sure understand what you believe. Make sure that you push forward in a way that you that you push forward in a way that you that you push forward in a way that you think is the best thing for our nation, think is the best thing for our nation, think is the best thing for our nation, for the world, etc., etc. These are for the world, etc., etc. These are for the world, etc., etc. These are important times. Thinking through these important times. Thinking through these important times. Thinking through these problems is incredibly complicated. And problems is incredibly complicated. And problems is incredibly complicated. And often times there's two or three things often times there's two or three things often times there's two or three things that are true at the same time. The US that are true at the same time. The US that are true at the same time. The US must develop global technological must develop global technological must develop global technological supremacy if we want to remain the supremacy if we want to remain the supremacy if we want to remain the dominant power. That just is true. There dominant power. That just is true. There dominant power. That just is true. There are risks to building this technology. are risks to building this technology. are risks to building this technology. That just is true and yet we have to do That just is true and yet we have to do That just is true and yet we have to do it and if we don't someone else will. it and if we don't someone else will. it and if we don't someone else will. It's just how technology works. It's just how technology works. It's just how technology works. >> So it's one of those things I'm thinking >> So it's one of those things I'm thinking >> So it's one of those things I'm thinking I'm looking at your um at like the I'm looking at your um at like the I'm looking at your um at like the landscape of Middle East. We only hit uh landscape of Middle East. We only hit uh landscape of Middle East. We only hit uh 2G. Um the Middle East, Iran, they were 2G. Um the Middle East, Iran, they were 2G. Um the Middle East, Iran, they were more willing to kill their own people more willing to kill their own people more willing to kill their own people than to than to than to let go of their nuclear ambitions. And let go of their nuclear ambitions. And let go of their nuclear ambitions. And meanwhile on our side, you know, we're meanwhile on our side, you know, we're meanwhile on our side, you know, we're fighting over whether or not a fighting over whether or not a fighting over whether or not a government company can use technology to government company can use technology to government company can use technology to possibly save something or launch a possibly save something or launch a possibly save something or launch a missile autonomously. So, it's one of missile autonomously. So, it's one of missile autonomously. So, it's one of those things where it seems like we're those things where it seems like we're those things where it seems like we're playing a different game versus where we playing a different game versus where we playing a different game versus where we draw our line versus where our quote draw our line versus where our quote draw our line versus where our quote unquote enemies draw their line. Um, but unquote enemies draw their line. Um, but unquote enemies draw their line. Um, but is that something that's built into the is that something that's built into the is that something that's built into the culture? What do you think that culture? What do you think that culture? What do you think that difference is? And is America being the difference is? And is America being the difference is? And is America being the as they're the is like how do we kind of as they're the is like how do we kind of as they're the is like how do we kind of measure those two things? measure those two things? measure those two things? The reason that we look completely The reason that we look completely The reason that we look completely different in our approach to technology, different in our approach to technology, different in our approach to technology, to the war, to our the treatment of our to the war, to our the treatment of our to the war, to our the treatment of our own people versus what Iran looks like own people versus what Iran looks like own people versus what Iran looks like is very much what do you consider the is very much what do you consider the is very much what do you consider the existential threat to your government. existential threat to your government. existential threat to your government. If you're a theoccratic regime that If you're a theoccratic regime that If you're a theoccratic regime that rules by force, well then you understand rules by force, well then you understand rules by force, well then you understand that descent within your country is that descent within your country is that descent within your country is existential, that you have to kill those existential, that you have to kill those existential, that you have to kill those people if you're going to stay in power. people if you're going to stay in power. people if you're going to stay in power. And this is not unique to Iran. This is And this is not unique to Iran. This is And this is not unique to Iran. This is something that happens over and over and something that happens over and over and something that happens over and over and over because this goes back to over because this goes back to over because this goes back to architecture of the human mind. It goes architecture of the human mind. It goes architecture of the human mind. It goes back to just what is power. It is if you back to just what is power. It is if you back to just what is power. It is if you don't watch the UFC, watch the UFC. That don't watch the UFC, watch the UFC. That don't watch the UFC, watch the UFC. That is what it looks like when two people is what it looks like when two people is what it looks like when two people are locked in a cage and they are able are locked in a cage and they are able are locked in a cage and they are able to do as much damage to the other person to do as much damage to the other person to do as much damage to the other person as they can do. And the only thing that as they can do. And the only thing that as they can do. And the only thing that stops that person from doing more damage stops that person from doing more damage stops that person from doing more damage is your own ability to fight. And so if is your own ability to fight. And so if is your own ability to fight. And so if you are a depressive, repressive, you are a depressive, repressive, you are a depressive, repressive, theocratic regime and your own people theocratic regime and your own people theocratic regime and your own people are trying to rise up against you, you are trying to rise up against you, you are trying to rise up against you, you will in many cases literally die if you will in many cases literally die if you will in many cases literally die if you don't stop that. And because of the way don't stop that. And because of the way don't stop that. And because of the way that all of us are that if somebody that all of us are that if somebody that all of us are that if somebody causes you enough pain and suffering, causes you enough pain and suffering, causes you enough pain and suffering, you can back people down. And if they you can back people down. And if they you can back people down. And if they think that they're the only one, the think that they're the only one, the think that they're the only one, the odds that they will push forward go way, odds that they will push forward go way, odds that they will push forward go way, way, way down. You need that contagion way, way down. You need that contagion way, way down. You need that contagion effect of everybody feeling like we're effect of everybody feeling like we're effect of everybody feeling like we're all going to rise up. We're all so angry all going to rise up. We're all so angry all going to rise up. We're all so angry that it doesn't matter what we risk. But that it doesn't matter what we risk. But that it doesn't matter what we risk. But that threshold is very difficult to that threshold is very difficult to that threshold is very difficult to attain because you may feel that way and attain because you may feel that way and attain because you may feel that way and then when you see your best friend's then when you see your best friend's then when you see your best friend's head get blown off and you're literally head get blown off and you're literally head get blown off and you're literally spitting brain chunks out of your mouth, spitting brain chunks out of your mouth, spitting brain chunks out of your mouth, all of a sudden it's like all that tough all of a sudden it's like all that tough all of a sudden it's like all that tough talk becomes real difficult. If you've talk becomes real difficult. If you've talk becomes real difficult. If you've seen any of the attempts to invade and seen any of the attempts to invade and seen any of the attempts to invade and take over the embassies, uh I know that take over the embassies, uh I know that take over the embassies, uh I know that this was happening in Pakistan and this was happening in Pakistan and this was happening in Pakistan and people were just getting shot. You see people were just getting shot. You see people were just getting shot. You see them carrying out the dead and dying them carrying out the dead and dying them carrying out the dead and dying bodies. Like that is a level of chaos bodies. Like that is a level of chaos bodies. Like that is a level of chaos and trauma that I don't think any of us and trauma that I don't think any of us and trauma that I don't think any of us want to deal with. And so you feel real want to deal with. And so you feel real want to deal with. And so you feel real aggressive until people start getting aggressive until people start getting aggressive until people start getting shot dead. And so I've said many times, shot dead. And so I've said many times, shot dead. And so I've said many times, violence continues to be used because it violence continues to be used because it violence continues to be used because it is so effective. is so effective. is so effective. Okay? So that's the way to think about Okay? So that's the way to think about Okay? So that's the way to think about it from that. So if you look at Iran it from that. So if you look at Iran it from that. So if you look at Iran through a historical lens to understand through a historical lens to understand through a historical lens to understand exactly why they're killing their own exactly why they're killing their own exactly why they're killing their own people and why they would sooner go to people and why they would sooner go to people and why they would sooner go to war with the US, Europe, and much of the war with the US, Europe, and much of the war with the US, Europe, and much of the Middle East before just publicly Middle East before just publicly Middle East before just publicly rejecting nuclear ambitions, there is an rejecting nuclear ambitions, there is an rejecting nuclear ambitions, there is an answer for you. So Iran's rulers built answer for you. So Iran's rulers built answer for you. So Iran's rulers built anti-US, UK, Israel ideology out of oil anti-US, UK, Israel ideology out of oil anti-US, UK, Israel ideology out of oil politics, coup memory, war trauma, and politics, coup memory, war trauma, and politics, coup memory, war trauma, and regime survival. So the IAEA found past regime survival. So the IAEA found past regime survival. So the IAEA found past weapon relevant work, but no credible weapon relevant work, but no credible weapon relevant work, but no credible indications that after 2009 that Iran indications that after 2009 that Iran indications that after 2009 that Iran was really trying to build another was really trying to build another was really trying to build another nuclear weapon and that Kani had not nuclear weapon and that Kani had not nuclear weapon and that Kani had not reauthorized that program. And so it is reauthorized that program. And so it is reauthorized that program. And so it is entirely possible that none of that's entirely possible that none of that's entirely possible that none of that's actually happening right now. That all actually happening right now. That all actually happening right now. That all of the we can't let them have a nuclear of the we can't let them have a nuclear of the we can't let them have a nuclear weapon that they're days, weeks, months, weapon that they're days, weeks, months, weapon that they're days, weeks, months, whatever away is just not true. That whatever away is just not true. That whatever away is just not true. That Kmeni is just saying he has to keep the Kmeni is just saying he has to keep the Kmeni is just saying he has to keep the public story going, that this is a thing public story going, that this is a thing public story going, that this is a thing so that he can maintain power in the so that he can maintain power in the so that he can maintain power in the region, so that people consider him like region, so that people consider him like region, so that people consider him like this really hostile person that, you this really hostile person that, you this really hostile person that, you know, isn't going to um you never know know, isn't going to um you never know know, isn't going to um you never know what they're going to do. And so whether what they're going to do. And so whether what they're going to do. And so whether it ends up being true or not, I think it ends up being true or not, I think it ends up being true or not, I think all of that is better understood as a all of that is better understood as a all of that is better understood as a story. Now, I think they probably were. story. Now, I think they probably were. story. Now, I think they probably were. I think they were walking a line of I think they were walking a line of I think they were walking a line of building a nuclear weapons program, building a nuclear weapons program, building a nuclear weapons program, trying to refine things as much as they trying to refine things as much as they trying to refine things as much as they could, which from my understanding of could, which from my understanding of could, which from my understanding of the situation was way beyond what would the situation was way beyond what would the situation was way beyond what would ever be used for civilian use. They ever be used for civilian use. They ever be used for civilian use. They wanted to walk up to that line, see how wanted to walk up to that line, see how wanted to walk up to that line, see how much they could get away with so that much they could get away with so that much they could get away with so that there was credibility when they said there was credibility when they said there was credibility when they said that they were going to do it. But they that they were going to do it. But they that they were going to do it. But they tried to dance that line of like, hey, tried to dance that line of like, hey, tried to dance that line of like, hey, we are going to pursue this at some we are going to pursue this at some we are going to pursue this at some point. We're happy to chill for now. So, point. We're happy to chill for now. So, point. We're happy to chill for now. So, they were trying to walk a line that they were trying to walk a line that they were trying to walk a line that ultimately just did not work out for ultimately just did not work out for ultimately just did not work out for them. Now, the hostilities with uh with them. Now, the hostilities with uh with them. Now, the hostilities with uh with Israel is not as ancient as people Israel is not as ancient as people Israel is not as ancient as people think. This is not some like blood feud think. This is not some like blood feud think. This is not some like blood feud that goes back forever and ever and ever that goes back forever and ever and ever that goes back forever and ever and ever between Muslims and um Israel Jews. It's between Muslims and um Israel Jews. It's between Muslims and um Israel Jews. It's a far more complicated thing. Have we a far more complicated thing. Have we a far more complicated thing. Have we released the episode with Raymond released the episode with Raymond released the episode with Raymond Ibrahim yet? Ibrahim yet? Ibrahim yet? >> No, that's Thursday. Okay, so coming out >> No, that's Thursday. Okay, so coming out >> No, that's Thursday. Okay, so coming out this week, you guys will see that it's this week, you guys will see that it's this week, you guys will see that it's very interesting. It's really post 1979 very interesting. It's really post 1979 very interesting. It's really post 1979 that things really start kicking off that things really start kicking off that things really start kicking off between Iran as we understand it and between Iran as we understand it and between Iran as we understand it and Israel as we understand it today. The Israel as we understand it today. The Israel as we understand it today. The sort of ancient blood feud played out sort of ancient blood feud played out sort of ancient blood feud played out differently. Not that it was clean, not differently. Not that it was clean, not differently. Not that it was clean, not that there wasn't drama. There certainly that there wasn't drama. There certainly that there wasn't drama. There certainly was, uh, but just not in the way that was, uh, but just not in the way that was, uh, but just not in the way that we're seeing today. Now, the simplest we're seeing today. Now, the simplest we're seeing today. Now, the simplest way to explain modern Iran is to start way to explain modern Iran is to start way to explain modern Iran is to start with oil, not theology. Coming back to with oil, not theology. Coming back to with oil, not theology. Coming back to what I didn't expect to be a theme of what I didn't expect to be a theme of what I didn't expect to be a theme of today, theology is there. It's present. today, theology is there. It's present. today, theology is there. It's present. It just isn't the driving factor. In It just isn't the driving factor. In It just isn't the driving factor. In 1951, uh the prime minister of Iran 1951, uh the prime minister of Iran 1951, uh the prime minister of Iran nationalized Iran's oil industry because nationalized Iran's oil industry because nationalized Iran's oil industry because many Iranians saw British dominance many Iranians saw British dominance many Iranians saw British dominance through Anglo Iranian oil, the Anglo through Anglo Iranian oil, the Anglo through Anglo Iranian oil, the Anglo Iranian oil company. It was actually Iranian oil company. It was actually Iranian oil company. It was actually what ends up becoming BP. Um they hated what ends up becoming BP. Um they hated what ends up becoming BP. Um they hated that. and Britain's answer uh was to do that. and Britain's answer uh was to do that. and Britain's answer uh was to do an embargo and the US and Britain then an embargo and the US and Britain then an embargo and the US and Britain then backed a 1953 coup that removed the backed a 1953 coup that removed the backed a 1953 coup that removed the leadership at that point and that is leadership at that point and that is leadership at that point and that is really important to understanding the really important to understanding the really important to understanding the anti-Americanism in Iran wasn't invented anti-Americanism in Iran wasn't invented anti-Americanism in Iran wasn't invented out of thin air by clerics in 1979 out of thin air by clerics in 1979 out of thin air by clerics in 1979 because we believe in uh different gods. because we believe in uh different gods. because we believe in uh different gods. Declassified US records show that Declassified US records show that Declassified US records show that American officials themselves worried American officials themselves worried American officials themselves worried that joining a coup could further that joining a coup could further that joining a coup could further alienate the mass of Iranian people and alienate the mass of Iranian people and alienate the mass of Iranian people and damage US interests in the long run. damage US interests in the long run. damage US interests in the long run. Britain was the original foreign Britain was the original foreign Britain was the original foreign antagonist. America became hated because antagonist. America became hated because antagonist. America became hated because it guaranteed the postcue world order. it guaranteed the postcue world order. it guaranteed the postcue world order. We were, as they say, the big Satan. We We were, as they say, the big Satan. We We were, as they say, the big Satan. We were the greatest world power on the were the greatest world power on the were the greatest world power on the international stage. And so we kept them international stage. And so we kept them international stage. And so we kept them in a position that they didn't want to in a position that they didn't want to in a position that they didn't want to be where their oil flows were be where their oil flows were be where their oil flows were controlled. They were really not able to controlled. They were really not able to controlled. They were really not able to control their own livelihood. So of control their own livelihood. So of control their own livelihood. So of course they're going to hate that. Now course they're going to hate that. Now course they're going to hate that. Now the sha Iran was pro-America and the sha Iran was pro-America and the sha Iran was pro-America and crucially it not only um it wasn't crucially it not only um it wasn't crucially it not only um it wasn't inherently anti-Israel. Though Iran inherently anti-Israel. Though Iran inherently anti-Israel. Though Iran maintained normal trading links with maintained normal trading links with maintained normal trading links with Israel for decades and the two countries Israel for decades and the two countries Israel for decades and the two countries had strategic and economic ties for a had strategic and economic ties for a had strategic and economic ties for a long time, what ended up breaking that long time, what ended up breaking that long time, what ended up breaking that order wasn't some uh eternal order wasn't some uh eternal order wasn't some uh eternal civilizational hatred. Stuff is there civilizational hatred. Stuff is there civilizational hatred. Stuff is there like uh this is where the stuff gets so like uh this is where the stuff gets so like uh this is where the stuff gets so complicated. Yes, it's there. It's sort complicated. Yes, it's there. It's sort complicated. Yes, it's there. It's sort of dim radiation in the background, but of dim radiation in the background, but of dim radiation in the background, but it's not the thing that's driving it's not the thing that's driving it's not the thing that's driving everything. The collision of oil wealth everything. The collision of oil wealth everything. The collision of oil wealth and autocracy that becomes the crazy and autocracy that becomes the crazy and autocracy that becomes the crazy thing that just explodes. oil money thing that just explodes. oil money thing that just explodes. oil money financed rapid modernization but also financed rapid modernization but also financed rapid modernization but also the classic distortions of a pro state the classic distortions of a pro state the classic distortions of a pro state which is so interesting if you look which is so interesting if you look which is so interesting if you look deeply at this stuff we're going to go deeply at this stuff we're going to go deeply at this stuff we're going to go fast through it right now but it's very fast through it right now but it's very fast through it right now but it's very interesting so a pro state you tend to interesting so a pro state you tend to interesting so a pro state you tend to get inflation surprising but the get inflation surprising but the get inflation surprising but the mechanisms are there inequality mechanisms are there inequality mechanisms are there inequality corruption urban dislocation political corruption urban dislocation political corruption urban dislocation political repression uh Brookings the Brookings repression uh Brookings the Brookings repression uh Brookings the Brookings Institute notes that the Shaw's oil boom Institute notes that the Shaw's oil boom Institute notes that the Shaw's oil boom uh produced rising inflation corruption uh produced rising inflation corruption uh produced rising inflation corruption and income equality and income equality and income equality And while amnesty in 1976 documented And while amnesty in 1976 documented And while amnesty in 1976 documented arbitrary arrests, torture, executions, arbitrary arrests, torture, executions, arbitrary arrests, torture, executions, and the extreme ruthlessness of uh SEAK, and the extreme ruthlessness of uh SEAK, and the extreme ruthlessness of uh SEAK, in popular memory, foreign alignment, in popular memory, foreign alignment, in popular memory, foreign alignment, and domestic humiliation all come and domestic humiliation all come and domestic humiliation all come together, fusing to create this one uh together, fusing to create this one uh together, fusing to create this one uh narrative of having to fight these great narrative of having to fight these great narrative of having to fight these great evils. Now, Kani turned that grievance evils. Now, Kani turned that grievance evils. Now, Kani turned that grievance into their governing system. It became into their governing system. It became into their governing system. It became the narrative, the value system, all the narrative, the value system, all the narrative, the value system, all wrapped up in religion to explain why wrapped up in religion to explain why wrapped up in religion to explain why they were just in coming to power, what they were just in coming to power, what they were just in coming to power, what the mandate was that they were going to the mandate was that they were going to the mandate was that they were going to rule on. Right? We just saw that here in rule on. Right? We just saw that here in rule on. Right? We just saw that here in the US when it is perceived by the the US when it is perceived by the the US when it is perceived by the people that a leader has a mandate, they people that a leader has a mandate, they people that a leader has a mandate, they can just do a lot more than if the can just do a lot more than if the can just do a lot more than if the people are against them. So, it starts people are against them. So, it starts people are against them. So, it starts out with that. They bundle all that out with that. They bundle all that out with that. They bundle all that grievance up, wrap it in a religious grievance up, wrap it in a religious grievance up, wrap it in a religious veneer, and then put it forward. After veneer, and then put it forward. After veneer, and then put it forward. After the revolution, the new regime labeled the revolution, the new regime labeled the revolution, the new regime labeled the United States as the great Satan and the United States as the great Satan and the United States as the great Satan and Israel as little Satan. But this was Israel as little Satan. But this was Israel as little Satan. But this was never just about ideology. It's also never just about ideology. It's also never just about ideology. It's also just a simple power consolidation. So, just a simple power consolidation. So, just a simple power consolidation. So, um, it's been noted that the 1979 um, it's been noted that the 1979 um, it's been noted that the 1979 embassy seizure let Kumainis camp claim embassy seizure let Kumainis camp claim embassy seizure let Kumainis camp claim the anti-imperialist mantle and sideline the anti-imperialist mantle and sideline the anti-imperialist mantle and sideline their own leftists and their own their own leftists and their own their own leftists and their own moderates. While the new constitution moderates. While the new constitution moderates. While the new constitution gave sweeping power to the supreme gave sweeping power to the supreme gave sweeping power to the supreme leader. So in other words, hostility leader. So in other words, hostility leader. So in other words, hostility towards America, Britain, Israel, it towards America, Britain, Israel, it towards America, Britain, Israel, it became basically political technology. I became basically political technology. I became basically political technology. I mean it was just it was a way to lock mean it was just it was a way to lock mean it was just it was a way to lock people in to what gave them the mandate, people in to what gave them the mandate, people in to what gave them the mandate, what like who are the good guys, who are what like who are the good guys, who are what like who are the good guys, who are the bad guys. It unified the the bad guys. It unified the the bad guys. It unified the revolutionary base, delegitimized revolutionary base, delegitimized revolutionary base, delegitimized domestic rivals as there are always domestic rivals as there are always domestic rivals as there are always going to be and kept the state going to be and kept the state going to be and kept the state permanently mobilized against outside permanently mobilized against outside permanently mobilized against outside enemies. When you lay it all out like enemies. When you lay it all out like enemies. When you lay it all out like that, it starts to make a lot more that, it starts to make a lot more that, it starts to make a lot more sense. Now, on the nuclear question, sense. Now, on the nuclear question, sense. Now, on the nuclear question, that's where this really starts to get that's where this really starts to get that's where this really starts to get interesting. The most accurate take on interesting. The most accurate take on interesting. The most accurate take on this is almost certainly deterrence, this is almost certainly deterrence, this is almost certainly deterrence, leverage, and regime insurance. So, leverage, and regime insurance. So, leverage, and regime insurance. So, during the Iran Iraq war, Iran was during the Iran Iraq war, Iran was during the Iran Iraq war, Iran was invaded. The UN confirmed chemical invaded. The UN confirmed chemical invaded. The UN confirmed chemical weapon use against Iranian forces. weapon use against Iranian forces. weapon use against Iranian forces. Declassified US records show Washington Declassified US records show Washington Declassified US records show Washington tilted towards Iraq even while Iraqi tilted towards Iraq even while Iraqi tilted towards Iraq even while Iraqi chemical attacks were known. So, we knew chemical attacks were known. So, we knew chemical attacks were known. So, we knew they were gassing their own people and they were gassing their own people and they were gassing their own people and were still like, "Yeah, but that's were still like, "Yeah, but that's were still like, "Yeah, but that's probably better for us." Thrron's lesson probably better for us." Thrron's lesson probably better for us." Thrron's lesson was very simple. International law is was very simple. International law is was very simple. International law is not going to save us. Outside powers, not going to save us. Outside powers, not going to save us. Outside powers, they will tolerate Iranian suffering if they will tolerate Iranian suffering if they will tolerate Iranian suffering if it serves regional balance. it serves regional balance. it serves regional balance. The reality of that history helps The reality of that history helps The reality of that history helps explain why enrichment, missiles, explain why enrichment, missiles, explain why enrichment, missiles, proxies, and nuclear threshold proxies, and nuclear threshold proxies, and nuclear threshold capabilities come to look to Iran's capabilities come to look to Iran's capabilities come to look to Iran's rulers like basically taking military rulers like basically taking military rulers like basically taking military hardware and leveraging it to get your hardware and leveraging it to get your hardware and leveraging it to get your sovereignty. Now, it doesn't prove final sovereignty. Now, it doesn't prove final sovereignty. Now, it doesn't prove final decision to build or use nuclear weapons decision to build or use nuclear weapons decision to build or use nuclear weapons to annihilate Israel, the US, or to annihilate Israel, the US, or to annihilate Israel, the US, or Britain, despite the fact that they Britain, despite the fact that they Britain, despite the fact that they claim it over and over and over could claim it over and over and over could claim it over and over and over could just be bluster. record is weaker on how just be bluster. record is weaker on how just be bluster. record is weaker on how true all of that stuff is and separating true all of that stuff is and separating true all of that stuff is and separating the propaganda that they have to put the propaganda that they have to put the propaganda that they have to put out. The reason that I beat that drum, out. The reason that I beat that drum, out. The reason that I beat that drum, by the way, is not to diminish or make by the way, is not to diminish or make by the way, is not to diminish or make Iran look good or that, you know, hey Iran look good or that, you know, hey Iran look good or that, you know, hey guys are not as bad as they claim. No, guys are not as bad as they claim. No, guys are not as bad as they claim. No, no, no. I'm just saying if you want to no, no. I'm just saying if you want to no, no. I'm just saying if you want to get to the reality of why they're doing get to the reality of why they're doing get to the reality of why they're doing what they're doing, you don't have to go what they're doing, you don't have to go what they're doing, you don't have to go all the way to they were actually all the way to they were actually all the way to they were actually planning to build these weapons and planning to build these weapons and planning to build these weapons and annihilate people, okay? It's part of annihilate people, okay? It's part of annihilate people, okay? It's part of the story and they definitely claim it, the story and they definitely claim it, the story and they definitely claim it, but they're claiming it, I think, for but they're claiming it, I think, for but they're claiming it, I think, for more sophisticated reasons. Now, one more sophisticated reasons. Now, one more sophisticated reasons. Now, one question that we all have to ask is why question that we all have to ask is why question that we all have to ask is why would a regime kill its own people? Now, would a regime kill its own people? Now, would a regime kill its own people? Now, we talked about that before, but the we talked about that before, but the we talked about that before, but the Islamic Republic is a security state. Islamic Republic is a security state. Islamic Republic is a security state. Okay? They're a security state born of Okay? They're a security state born of Okay? They're a security state born of revolution. And any security state born revolution. And any security state born revolution. And any security state born of revolution has a fear of of revolution has a fear of of revolution has a fear of counterrevolution. counterrevolution. counterrevolution. So, the the violence isn't accidental. So, the the violence isn't accidental. So, the the violence isn't accidental. It becomes foundational to keeping your It becomes foundational to keeping your It becomes foundational to keeping your people in check. So, human rights people in check. So, human rights people in check. So, human rights organizations estimate that even back in organizations estimate that even back in organizations estimate that even back in 1988, they had killed thousands of 1988, they had killed thousands of 1988, they had killed thousands of people up to like 5,000 prisoners were people up to like 5,000 prisoners were people up to like 5,000 prisoners were executed in the 88 massacre alone. And executed in the 88 massacre alone. And executed in the 88 massacre alone. And there were, I think, roughly 321 deaths there were, I think, roughly 321 deaths there were, I think, roughly 321 deaths in November of 2019 during the crackdown in November of 2019 during the crackdown in November of 2019 during the crackdown after the fuel price shock. The UN factf after the fuel price shock. The UN factf after the fuel price shock. The UN factf finding mission said that in 22 the finding mission said that in 22 the finding mission said that in 22 the protest crackdown um saw a bunch of protest crackdown um saw a bunch of protest crackdown um saw a bunch of unlawful death including extrajudicial unlawful death including extrajudicial unlawful death including extrajudicial killings, torture, rape, and acts that killings, torture, rape, and acts that killings, torture, rape, and acts that um may amount to just plain crimes um may amount to just plain crimes um may amount to just plain crimes against humanity. And so obviously we've against humanity. And so obviously we've against humanity. And so obviously we've talked about what they did recently with talked about what they did recently with talked about what they did recently with the um killing of up to 30,000 plus the um killing of up to 30,000 plus the um killing of up to 30,000 plus people. though people. though people. though they have to to maintain power. And by they have to to maintain power. And by they have to to maintain power. And by having the nuclear deterrent, you not having the nuclear deterrent, you not having the nuclear deterrent, you not only keep your own people in check, but only keep your own people in check, but only keep your own people in check, but you keep the region in check. And so you keep the region in check. And so you keep the region in check. And so they're certainly not going to give up they're certainly not going to give up they're certainly not going to give up the lie anytime soon. And they're not the lie anytime soon. And they're not the lie anytime soon. And they're not going to let go of the ambition or going to let go of the ambition or going to let go of the ambition or publicly state it because the current publicly state it because the current publicly state it because the current regime is not trying to plug into the regime is not trying to plug into the regime is not trying to plug into the broader economic security of the region. broader economic security of the region. broader economic security of the region. They're not trying to be a part of the They're not trying to be a part of the They're not trying to be a part of the Abraham Accords. Um they still see Abraham Accords. Um they still see Abraham Accords. Um they still see themselves they they have maintained themselves they they have maintained themselves they they have maintained power by saying everybody else is bad. power by saying everybody else is bad. power by saying everybody else is bad. and we're the good guys. And so the and we're the good guys. And so the and we're the good guys. And so the second that they give that up, they give second that they give that up, they give second that they give that up, they give up their right to rule. up their right to rule. up their right to rule. >> It's kind of like the Russia thing you >> It's kind of like the Russia thing you >> It's kind of like the Russia thing you said where you have to make your said where you have to make your said where you have to make your opponent save face with his people. So opponent save face with his people. So opponent save face with his people. So if I've been saying you're the bad guys if I've been saying you're the bad guys if I've been saying you're the bad guys this whole time and then I'm on TV this whole time and then I'm on TV this whole time and then I'm on TV shaking hands with them, then it's like, shaking hands with them, then it's like, shaking hands with them, then it's like, wait, you lied to us. wait, you lied to us. wait, you lied to us. >> Yes. And if you've been repressive, >> Yes. And if you've been repressive, >> Yes. And if you've been repressive, you've got a problem. In the US, you can you've got a problem. In the US, you can you've got a problem. In the US, you can get away with it, right? Because Trump get away with it, right? Because Trump get away with it, right? Because Trump is running a similar similar gambit. is running a similar similar gambit. is running a similar similar gambit. He'll tell you that China's bad all day He'll tell you that China's bad all day He'll tell you that China's bad all day long and then oh, he'll do a deal with long and then oh, he'll do a deal with long and then oh, he'll do a deal with China, no problem. He'll tell you China, no problem. He'll tell you China, no problem. He'll tell you Maduro's regime corrupt from top to Maduro's regime corrupt from top to Maduro's regime corrupt from top to bottom. But wait, didn't you just bottom. But wait, didn't you just bottom. But wait, didn't you just promote uh one of the corrupt officials promote uh one of the corrupt officials promote uh one of the corrupt officials to president? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but to president? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but to president? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but she's doing business with us. Like, he's she's doing business with us. Like, he's she's doing business with us. Like, he's got this ability to like handwave the got this ability to like handwave the got this ability to like handwave the craziest [ __ ] away. In fact, as a side craziest [ __ ] away. In fact, as a side craziest [ __ ] away. In fact, as a side note, PSA, remember boys and girls, note, PSA, remember boys and girls, note, PSA, remember boys and girls, people will treat you exactly the way people will treat you exactly the way people will treat you exactly the way you let them treat you. So, if you you let them treat you. So, if you you let them treat you. So, if you apologize, cowtail, oh my god, you're apologize, cowtail, oh my god, you're apologize, cowtail, oh my god, you're right. I shouldn't have done it. Yes, right. I shouldn't have done it. Yes, right. I shouldn't have done it. Yes, she's bad. Then people are going to beat she's bad. Then people are going to beat she's bad. Then people are going to beat you to death with that stick. If the you to death with that stick. If the you to death with that stick. If the second you say that, you're like, you second you say that, you're like, you second you say that, you're like, you guys are dumb children who don't guys are dumb children who don't guys are dumb children who don't understand geopolitics, which by the way understand geopolitics, which by the way understand geopolitics, which by the way is true. And so I'm I don't want to do a is true. And so I'm I don't want to do a is true. And so I'm I don't want to do a regime change there. We had to get rid regime change there. We had to get rid regime change there. We had to get rid of Maduro. That's no good. I need people of Maduro. That's no good. I need people of Maduro. That's no good. I need people that would do business. People will that would do business. People will that would do business. People will often say, myself included, Trump just often say, myself included, Trump just often say, myself included, Trump just says the quiet part out loud. Trump is says the quiet part out loud. Trump is says the quiet part out loud. Trump is just mapping power. This is how power just mapping power. This is how power just mapping power. This is how power works. Now, I expect that it grosses me works. Now, I expect that it grosses me works. Now, I expect that it grosses me out a lot. I expect it to gross out a out a lot. I expect it to gross out a out a lot. I expect it to gross out a lot of people who see all of this as lot of people who see all of this as lot of people who see all of this as morally monstrous. I'm with you. Um, but morally monstrous. I'm with you. Um, but morally monstrous. I'm with you. Um, but it is a naked glimpse into how power it is a naked glimpse into how power it is a naked glimpse into how power actually works. actually works. actually works. >> Speaking of the Russia of it all, there >> Speaking of the Russia of it all, there >> Speaking of the Russia of it all, there was some speculation that Putin has was some speculation that Putin has was some speculation that Putin has agreed to the US sec uh guarantees for agreed to the US sec uh guarantees for agreed to the US sec uh guarantees for Ukraine. Um, and this was somebody out Ukraine. Um, and this was somebody out Ukraine. Um, and this was somebody out of Zalinsk's office. It sounds good. of Zalinsk's office. It sounds good. of Zalinsk's office. It sounds good. Putin is the king of Yeah. Yeah. I'm Putin is the king of Yeah. Yeah. I'm Putin is the king of Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready to talk. Yeah, let's definitely ready to talk. Yeah, let's definitely ready to talk. Yeah, let's definitely sit down. Air strike, air strike, drone. sit down. Air strike, air strike, drone. sit down. Air strike, air strike, drone. So, it's one of those things like did So, it's one of those things like did So, it's one of those things like did the tenor with Iran and maybe he's the tenor with Iran and maybe he's the tenor with Iran and maybe he's looking around at the at the chess board looking around at the at the chess board looking around at the at the chess board like okay while everybody's busy with like okay while everybody's busy with like okay while everybody's busy with this maybe I'll just secure this up. this maybe I'll just secure this up. this maybe I'll just secure this up. I'll get to keep you know Crimea and we I'll get to keep you know Crimea and we I'll get to keep you know Crimea and we can call it a day or something like can call it a day or something like can call it a day or something like that. Do you think he's getting closer that. Do you think he's getting closer that. Do you think he's getting closer to that or do you think this is just to that or do you think this is just to that or do you think this is just another smoke screen? another smoke screen? another smoke screen? >> Oh, I've got a take on this. If you want >> Oh, I've got a take on this. If you want >> Oh, I've got a take on this. If you want to know why Russia and the Kremlin have to know why Russia and the Kremlin have to know why Russia and the Kremlin have suddenly changed their tune on being suddenly changed their tune on being suddenly changed their tune on being willing to negotiate on Ukraine, I think willing to negotiate on Ukraine, I think willing to negotiate on Ukraine, I think it is very simple. Donald Trump it is very simple. Donald Trump it is very simple. Donald Trump understands you have to find a way to understands you have to find a way to understands you have to find a way to make something good for the person that make something good for the person that make something good for the person that you're trying to negotiate with. So, I you're trying to negotiate with. So, I you're trying to negotiate with. So, I think Trump is offering Russia think Trump is offering Russia think Trump is offering Russia something. I don't know what that something. I don't know what that something. I don't know what that something is yet, but offering them something is yet, but offering them something is yet, but offering them either reduction of sanctions, uh a a either reduction of sanctions, uh a a either reduction of sanctions, uh a a sort of get out of jail free card sort of get out of jail free card sort of get out of jail free card economically um to reinsert them into a economically um to reinsert them into a economically um to reinsert them into a western alliance. It will be slow. It western alliance. It will be slow. It western alliance. It will be slow. It will be vague in the beginning, but I will be vague in the beginning, but I will be vague in the beginning, but I think back channel in the most whispered think back channel in the most whispered think back channel in the most whispered of whispered conversations, I think it of whispered conversations, I think it of whispered conversations, I think it goes something like this. Uh, listen, I goes something like this. Uh, listen, I goes something like this. Uh, listen, I know you're in a situationship with know you're in a situationship with know you're in a situationship with China, but we want to have a little China, but we want to have a little China, but we want to have a little something here, and I think that we can something here, and I think that we can something here, and I think that we can be better for you, Russia. You show a be better for you, Russia. You show a be better for you, Russia. You show a little cleavage. You flash a little leg little cleavage. You flash a little leg little cleavage. You flash a little leg and you say, "Listen, you're better off and you say, "Listen, you're better off and you say, "Listen, you're better off putting your attentions here and let us putting your attentions here and let us putting your attentions here and let us slow walk you over to an alliance with slow walk you over to an alliance with slow walk you over to an alliance with us because the reality is we are going us because the reality is we are going us because the reality is we are going to isolate China. China's in trouble in to isolate China. China's in trouble in to isolate China. China's in trouble in a way that the US isn't. Russia, look at a way that the US isn't. Russia, look at a way that the US isn't. Russia, look at how we're running the chessboard. You how we're running the chessboard. You how we're running the chessboard. You want to be a part of this. You know, want to be a part of this. You know, want to be a part of this. You know, we're the hottest country we're the hottest country we're the hottest country and so get on this team with us." It's and so get on this team with us." It's and so get on this team with us." It's going to be something like that. Of going to be something like that. Of going to be something like that. Of course, there's both carrot and stick, course, there's both carrot and stick, course, there's both carrot and stick, so there's going to be some threats so there's going to be some threats so there's going to be some threats about we're going to get hyperinvolved about we're going to get hyperinvolved about we're going to get hyperinvolved with what Europe is doing if you guys with what Europe is doing if you guys with what Europe is doing if you guys keep [ __ ] around. But if he gives keep [ __ ] around. But if he gives keep [ __ ] around. But if he gives them that economic offramp, if he tells them that economic offramp, if he tells them that economic offramp, if he tells Russia, listen, the world order is Russia, listen, the world order is Russia, listen, the world order is changing. We are moving into a new changing. We are moving into a new changing. We are moving into a new century, America is going to reestablish century, America is going to reestablish century, America is going to reestablish itself largely as a hegeimon in our own itself largely as a hegeimon in our own itself largely as a hegeimon in our own region. China can do China things, but region. China can do China things, but region. China can do China things, but Russia, do not make the [ __ ] mistake Russia, do not make the [ __ ] mistake Russia, do not make the [ __ ] mistake of grouping up with those guys because of grouping up with those guys because of grouping up with those guys because you full well know that we have a lot of you full well know that we have a lot of you full well know that we have a lot of weapons left in our arsenal and we will weapons left in our arsenal and we will weapons left in our arsenal and we will use them all. So, you can be a friend or use them all. So, you can be a friend or use them all. So, you can be a friend or a foe, but this is what friendship looks a foe, but this is what friendship looks a foe, but this is what friendship looks like. And so, I think that Trump's admin like. And so, I think that Trump's admin like. And so, I think that Trump's admin is laying out something that at least is laying out something that at least is laying out something that at least has Putin being willing to make a couple has Putin being willing to make a couple has Putin being willing to make a couple of public statements about, yeah, maybe, of public statements about, yeah, maybe, of public statements about, yeah, maybe, maybe I'll do that. Now, I think Drew maybe I'll do that. Now, I think Drew maybe I'll do that. Now, I think Drew said it perfectly. He does that all the said it perfectly. He does that all the said it perfectly. He does that all the time and it has historically always been time and it has historically always been time and it has historically always been [ __ ] So, I would not trust Putin [ __ ] So, I would not trust Putin [ __ ] So, I would not trust Putin any farther than we can throw him. But any farther than we can throw him. But any farther than we can throw him. But if you want to know suddenly why he's if you want to know suddenly why he's if you want to know suddenly why he's making those utterances, it's almost making those utterances, it's almost making those utterances, it's almost certainly something like that. Trump is certainly something like that. Trump is certainly something like that. Trump is trying to give him an economic off-ramp trying to give him an economic off-ramp trying to give him an economic off-ramp that would be advantageous to the US and that would be advantageous to the US and that would be advantageous to the US and to Russia. And he doesn't have the moral to Russia. And he doesn't have the moral to Russia. And he doesn't have the moral compunction of like, you uh Ukraine and compunction of like, you uh Ukraine and compunction of like, you uh Ukraine and so now I've got to treat you like the so now I've got to treat you like the so now I've got to treat you like the bad guy forever. I don't give a [ __ ] If bad guy forever. I don't give a [ __ ] If bad guy forever. I don't give a [ __ ] If you're good for me, then you're a good you're good for me, then you're a good you're good for me, then you're a good guy. You get a handshake. If you're bad guy. You get a handshake. If you're bad guy. You get a handshake. If you're bad for me, you're a bad guy. You get for me, you're a bad guy. You get for me, you're a bad guy. You get nothing. You get bombs. I mean, if you nothing. You get bombs. I mean, if you nothing. You get bombs. I mean, if you map Trump like that, becomes very clear map Trump like that, becomes very clear map Trump like that, becomes very clear what he means by America first. All what he means by America first. All what he means by America first. All right. This reminds me to the Victor right. This reminds me to the Victor right. This reminds me to the Victor Davis Hansen clip that is saying Trump's Davis Hansen clip that is saying Trump's Davis Hansen clip that is saying Trump's sporadicness is all a well-calulated sporadicness is all a well-calulated sporadicness is all a well-calulated strategy to diminish Russia and China. strategy to diminish Russia and China. strategy to diminish Russia and China. So, it doesn't matter what country we're So, it doesn't matter what country we're So, it doesn't matter what country we're invading, who we're snatching up, whose invading, who we're snatching up, whose invading, who we're snatching up, whose oil we're stealing. The endgame is oil we're stealing. The endgame is oil we're stealing. The endgame is always it at least hurts one of these always it at least hurts one of these always it at least hurts one of these two people. Almost everything that he's two people. Almost everything that he's two people. Almost everything that he's doing that seems herkyjerky has an doing that seems herkyjerky has an doing that seems herkyjerky has an ultimate strategic purpose is to ultimate strategic purpose is to ultimate strategic purpose is to diminish the power of the Chinese and to diminish the power of the Chinese and to diminish the power of the Chinese and to turn Russia and China against each other turn Russia and China against each other turn Russia and China against each other >> and to have a cultural revolution >> and to have a cultural revolution >> and to have a cultural revolution counterrevolution in the United States counterrevolution in the United States counterrevolution in the United States that makes our adversaries think that we that makes our adversaries think that we that makes our adversaries think that we are serious and dangerous whether it's are serious and dangerous whether it's are serious and dangerous whether it's closing the border or having immigration closing the border or having immigration closing the border or having immigration reform or pressuring Mexico about reform or pressuring Mexico about reform or pressuring Mexico about fentinel. fentinel. fentinel. or recalibrating the Pentagon, you name or recalibrating the Pentagon, you name or recalibrating the Pentagon, you name it, and economically more powerful. it, and economically more powerful. it, and economically more powerful. Instead, they just say, "Well, he Instead, they just say, "Well, he Instead, they just say, "Well, he tweeted this or his tariffs." But tweeted this or his tariffs." But tweeted this or his tariffs." But actually, there is a plan and it's actually, there is a plan and it's actually, there is a plan and it's working. working. working. >> I think someone as smart as him might >> I think someone as smart as him might >> I think someone as smart as him might pull that off, pull that off, pull that off, >> but >> but >> but I I don't think I I don't think I I don't think >> that from the we're economically more >> that from the we're economically more >> that from the we're economically more >> No, no. saying that oh what we're doing >> No, no. saying that oh what we're doing >> No, no. saying that oh what we're doing here the counterrevolution that we're here the counterrevolution that we're here the counterrevolution that we're running in the US is really like a running in the US is really like a running in the US is really like a bigger part of this strategy to make bigger part of this strategy to make bigger part of this strategy to make China and Russia think ah you thought China and Russia think ah you thought China and Russia think ah you thought like I was doing drunken kung fu master like I was doing drunken kung fu master like I was doing drunken kung fu master but no real I got you was looking but no real I got you was looking but no real I got you was looking uh I don't think it plays out like that uh I don't think it plays out like that uh I don't think it plays out like that I think the reality on that front is I think the reality on that front is I think the reality on that front is that Trump believes that we need a that Trump believes that we need a that Trump believes that we need a countercultural revolution I think he's countercultural revolution I think he's countercultural revolution I think he's right about that we need to balance the right about that we need to balance the right about that we need to balance the [ __ ] back out like we just swung so hard [ __ ] back out like we just swung so hard [ __ ] back out like we just swung so hard to the left it is. Oh man, let's just to the left it is. Oh man, let's just to the left it is. Oh man, let's just make everybody mad for a second. So, I make everybody mad for a second. So, I make everybody mad for a second. So, I forget her name, but there's that woman, forget her name, but there's that woman, forget her name, but there's that woman, I really want to get her on the show, I really want to get her on the show, I really want to get her on the show, that did uh that expose that basically that did uh that expose that basically that did uh that expose that basically said um said um said um >> the feminization of America. >> the feminization of America. >> the feminization of America. >> Wokeness is just women getting control >> Wokeness is just women getting control >> Wokeness is just women getting control of um institutions that they previously of um institutions that they previously of um institutions that they previously hadn't had control of. Because I hadn't had control of. Because I hadn't had control of. Because I remember back in when would this have remember back in when would this have remember back in when would this have been? This would have been like 2021 been? This would have been like 2021 been? This would have been like 2021 maybe. Um, I had a conversation with maybe. Um, I had a conversation with maybe. Um, I had a conversation with Brett Weinstein's wife, um, Heather Brett Weinstein's wife, um, Heather Brett Weinstein's wife, um, Heather Hying about like I said, I feel like Hying about like I said, I feel like Hying about like I said, I feel like what's happening right now is a feminine what's happening right now is a feminine what's happening right now is a feminine mode of, um, I can't remember if I said mode of, um, I can't remember if I said mode of, um, I can't remember if I said violence or power, but a feminine mode violence or power, but a feminine mode violence or power, but a feminine mode of violence or power, whichever it was, of violence or power, whichever it was, of violence or power, whichever it was, uh, being played out. And uh, being played out. And uh, being played out. And seeing her come forward and be like, seeing her come forward and be like, seeing her come forward and be like, "Oh, yeah, that explains it perfectly." "Oh, yeah, that explains it perfectly." "Oh, yeah, that explains it perfectly." I was like, "Yep." So men and women as I was like, "Yep." So men and women as I was like, "Yep." So men and women as far as like um far as like um far as like um archetypes are incredibly powerful when archetypes are incredibly powerful when archetypes are incredibly powerful when they're balanced and incredibly they're balanced and incredibly they're balanced and incredibly pathological when either one swings in pathological when either one swings in pathological when either one swings in the wrong direction. So if you look at the wrong direction. So if you look at the wrong direction. So if you look at Hitler, that's masculinity uh played out Hitler, that's masculinity uh played out Hitler, that's masculinity uh played out into the pathological with nothing into the pathological with nothing into the pathological with nothing feminine holding it back. Uh and if you feminine holding it back. Uh and if you feminine holding it back. Uh and if you look at the sort of great woke movement, look at the sort of great woke movement, look at the sort of great woke movement, that is femininity with no masculinity that is femininity with no masculinity that is femininity with no masculinity to hold it in check. And so, um, yeah, to hold it in check. And so, um, yeah, to hold it in check. And so, um, yeah, that's a you need to push back on that, that's a you need to push back on that, that's a you need to push back on that, but I don't think that it's 40 chess on but I don't think that it's 40 chess on but I don't think that it's 40 chess on Trump's part. I just think he has a gut Trump's part. I just think he has a gut Trump's part. I just think he has a gut instinct that you have to push back on instinct that you have to push back on instinct that you have to push back on that. And honestly, he would probably that. And honestly, he would probably that. And honestly, he would probably swing in the wrong direction and just go swing in the wrong direction and just go swing in the wrong direction and just go too far. So, you need this balance too far. So, you need this balance too far. So, you need this balance between the two. And you get the balance between the two. And you get the balance between the two. And you get the balance via friction. You don't get the balance via friction. You don't get the balance via friction. You don't get the balance by like everybody holds hands. It's the by like everybody holds hands. It's the by like everybody holds hands. It's the two sides basically going at each other. two sides basically going at each other. two sides basically going at each other. And my hope is that now that the public And my hope is that now that the public And my hope is that now that the public has woken up to the fact that that's has woken up to the fact that that's has woken up to the fact that that's what happened that they will um we will what happened that they will um we will what happened that they will um we will watch the argument unfold from that watch the argument unfold from that watch the argument unfold from that perspective and no longer want an perspective and no longer want an perspective and no longer want an extreme to win but want that dynamic extreme to win but want that dynamic extreme to win but want that dynamic tension between the two. We'll see. tension between the two. We'll see. tension between the two. We'll see. >> It's interesting because I think that >> It's interesting because I think that >> It's interesting because I think that there's a split happening in all these there's a split happening in all these there's a split happening in all these different industries and sectors where different industries and sectors where different industries and sectors where finance pros are loving Trump right now. finance pros are loving Trump right now. finance pros are loving Trump right now. S&P is historically high. Dow hit S&P is historically high. Dow hit S&P is historically high. Dow hit 50,000. 50,000. 50,000. >> Okay, just remember those are terrible >> Okay, just remember those are terrible >> Okay, just remember those are terrible signs. their alarm bells, but no one signs. their alarm bells, but no one signs. their alarm bells, but no one >> I say, but on that side, but crypto bros >> I say, but on that side, but crypto bros >> I say, but on that side, but crypto bros hate them because Bitcoin is is just now hate them because Bitcoin is is just now hate them because Bitcoin is is just now struggling to get back up. Like that one struggling to get back up. Like that one struggling to get back up. Like that one is is way way down. We have the is is way way down. We have the is is way way down. We have the >> Bitcoin bros need to really understand >> Bitcoin bros need to really understand >> Bitcoin bros need to really understand what is going on with crypto like what what is going on with crypto like what what is going on with crypto like what is it? So, first of all, Bitcoin is a is it? So, first of all, Bitcoin is a is it? So, first of all, Bitcoin is a totally different thing. Bitcoin is as totally different thing. Bitcoin is as totally different thing. Bitcoin is as of right now today, it is a tech stock. of right now today, it is a tech stock. of right now today, it is a tech stock. It is a high volatility tech stock that It is a high volatility tech stock that It is a high volatility tech stock that could one day be digital gold. And I could one day be digital gold. And I could one day be digital gold. And I think as you raise every subsequent think as you raise every subsequent think as you raise every subsequent generation, you will find that people generation, you will find that people generation, you will find that people go, "Oh, gold isn't actually like a go, "Oh, gold isn't actually like a go, "Oh, gold isn't actually like a thing. It's not valuable because it's a thing. It's not valuable because it's a thing. It's not valuable because it's a brick of gold. It's valuable because it brick of gold. It's valuable because it brick of gold. It's valuable because it is hard to inflate." And over thousands is hard to inflate." And over thousands is hard to inflate." And over thousands of years, people have realized, "Oh, it of years, people have realized, "Oh, it of years, people have realized, "Oh, it withstands the test of time. Bugs can't withstands the test of time. Bugs can't withstands the test of time. Bugs can't eat it. Uh you can melt it down, eat it. Uh you can melt it down, eat it. Uh you can melt it down, reconstitute it, hard to travel, but reconstitute it, hard to travel, but reconstitute it, hard to travel, but like it becomes a way for people to like it becomes a way for people to like it becomes a way for people to store wealth and benchmark against it. store wealth and benchmark against it. store wealth and benchmark against it. Cool. Got it." So because everybody Cool. Got it." So because everybody Cool. Got it." So because everybody agrees that nah sea shells aren't the agrees that nah sea shells aren't the agrees that nah sea shells aren't the play, it's gold. Uh that that's got a play, it's gold. Uh that that's got a play, it's gold. Uh that that's got a lot of power to it. Now when people like lot of power to it. Now when people like lot of power to it. Now when people like Peter Schiff and Peter, I love you Peter Schiff and Peter, I love you Peter Schiff and Peter, I love you dearly. But every time that you talk dearly. But every time that you talk dearly. But every time that you talk about gold having its value driven by about gold having its value driven by about gold having its value driven by the fact that oh people use it in the fact that oh people use it in the fact that oh people use it in manufacturing, you're thinking of silver manufacturing, you're thinking of silver manufacturing, you're thinking of silver or when you say it can be turned into or when you say it can be turned into or when you say it can be turned into jewelry, it's like doesn't [ __ ] jewelry, it's like doesn't [ __ ] jewelry, it's like doesn't [ __ ] matter. The thing that gives it its matter. The thing that gives it its matter. The thing that gives it its value is people believe rightly so that value is people believe rightly so that value is people believe rightly so that it has certain properties that make it it has certain properties that make it it has certain properties that make it valuable. I think a as as a store of valuable. I think a as as a store of valuable. I think a as as a store of wealth, I think people will wake up to wealth, I think people will wake up to wealth, I think people will wake up to that fact in Bitcoin over time. But that fact in Bitcoin over time. But that fact in Bitcoin over time. But right now, if you're going to be honest, right now, if you're going to be honest, right now, if you're going to be honest, and I have a ton of money in Bitcoin, and I have a ton of money in Bitcoin, and I have a ton of money in Bitcoin, but right now, if I'm being honest with but right now, if I'm being honest with but right now, if I'm being honest with myself and you, it acts like a tech myself and you, it acts like a tech myself and you, it acts like a tech stock. And by the way, it's being stock. And by the way, it's being stock. And by the way, it's being manipulated wildly. Make sure that you manipulated wildly. Make sure that you manipulated wildly. Make sure that you watch my deep dive on the Jane Street watch my deep dive on the Jane Street watch my deep dive on the Jane Street debacle. We'll see how that unfolds. debacle. We'll see how that unfolds. debacle. We'll see how that unfolds. Allegedly. Allegedly. But they've been Allegedly. Allegedly. But they've been Allegedly. Allegedly. But they've been sued for manipulating Bitcoin. Will be sued for manipulating Bitcoin. Will be sued for manipulating Bitcoin. Will be very interesting to see how that plays very interesting to see how that plays very interesting to see how that plays out. Again, watch the deep dive out now. out. Again, watch the deep dive out now. out. Again, watch the deep dive out now. It's our highest performing piece of It's our highest performing piece of It's our highest performing piece of content by the way right now. So go content by the way right now. So go content by the way right now. So go check it out. So um that understanding check it out. So um that understanding check it out. So um that understanding that reality I think is very important that reality I think is very important that reality I think is very important and there's just so much narrative and there's just so much narrative and there's just so much narrative battle around this stuff. So anyway, battle around this stuff. So anyway, battle around this stuff. So anyway, Bitcoin goes up and down. Volatility is Bitcoin goes up and down. Volatility is Bitcoin goes up and down. Volatility is part of its charm right now. Now I long part of its charm right now. Now I long part of its charm right now. Now I long for the day where it becomes stable. Uh for the day where it becomes stable. Uh for the day where it becomes stable. Uh but the fact that it's dropped down to but the fact that it's dropped down to but the fact that it's dropped down to whatever 60k, that's what Bitcoin does. whatever 60k, that's what Bitcoin does. whatever 60k, that's what Bitcoin does. Uh it swings wildly. It is a tech stock Uh it swings wildly. It is a tech stock Uh it swings wildly. It is a tech stock that pe techs stock like thing that that pe techs stock like thing that that pe techs stock like thing that people go to as they get further out on people go to as they get further out on people go to as they get further out on the risk curve and as they come back to the risk curve and as they come back to the risk curve and as they come back to safer assets they move away from it and safer assets they move away from it and safer assets they move away from it and so it's also one that now has a layer of so it's also one that now has a layer of so it's also one that now has a layer of what I'll call um the sophisticated part what I'll call um the sophisticated part what I'll call um the sophisticated part of the casino pulled on top of it and so of the casino pulled on top of it and so of the casino pulled on top of it and so that changes price discovery and all that changes price discovery and all that changes price discovery and all that. So I mean anyway watch the deep that. So I mean anyway watch the deep that. So I mean anyway watch the deep dive where I go into great detail on dive where I go into great detail on dive where I go into great detail on that. Um, but yeah, a lot of the that. Um, but yeah, a lot of the that. Um, but yeah, a lot of the narrative coming out, a lot of the narrative coming out, a lot of the narrative coming out, a lot of the energy that comes out of the crypto energy that comes out of the crypto energy that comes out of the crypto space drives people crazy where the space drives people crazy where the space drives people crazy where the crypto market is just like one big meme. crypto market is just like one big meme. crypto market is just like one big meme. And yeah, anyway, there's plenty of And yeah, anyway, there's plenty of And yeah, anyway, there's plenty of crypto bro memes. They are hilarious. crypto bro memes. They are hilarious. crypto bro memes. They are hilarious. Um, but you have something incredibly Um, but you have something incredibly Um, but you have something incredibly meaningful at least at that level. As meaningful at least at that level. As meaningful at least at that level. As you go the Bitcoin level, as you go down you go the Bitcoin level, as you go down you go the Bitcoin level, as you go down into the more obscure stuff, it's it's into the more obscure stuff, it's it's into the more obscure stuff, it's it's like betting on um how many times will like betting on um how many times will like betting on um how many times will Trump say never seen anything like it in Trump say never seen anything like it in Trump say never seen anything like it in a speech? Literally, that's what a speech? Literally, that's what a speech? Literally, that's what shitcoins are. It the same impulse to shitcoins are. It the same impulse to shitcoins are. It the same impulse to bet on that is like, am I going to read bet on that is like, am I going to read bet on that is like, am I going to read the cultural energy on poo poo bearcoin the cultural energy on poo poo bearcoin the cultural energy on poo poo bearcoin uh better than anybody else? Sure, go uh better than anybody else? Sure, go uh better than anybody else? Sure, go for it. I think people should be able to for it. I think people should be able to for it. I think people should be able to do whatever they want with their money, do whatever they want with their money, do whatever they want with their money, and if they want to gamble it on poo and if they want to gamble it on poo and if they want to gamble it on poo bear, they should be able to. Uh but bear, they should be able to. Uh but bear, they should be able to. Uh but let's not make out like it's an economic let's not make out like it's an economic let's not make out like it's an economic movement. It's gambling. movement. It's gambling. movement. It's gambling. >> Gotcha. Um we were talking about the >> Gotcha. Um we were talking about the >> Gotcha. Um we were talking about the pendulum swinging in culture left or pendulum swinging in culture left or pendulum swinging in culture left or right. finance. I was saying kind of right. finance. I was saying kind of right. finance. I was saying kind of that split between Bitcoin bros and that split between Bitcoin bros and that split between Bitcoin bros and traditional finance. And I think there's traditional finance. And I think there's traditional finance. And I think there's also a split between capital or also a split between capital or also a split between capital or Republicans and kind of this new Republicans and kind of this new Republicans and kind of this new right-wing movement. Um, right-wing movement. Um, right-wing movement. Um, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> especially around the war thing. So, I >> especially around the war thing. So, I >> especially around the war thing. So, I know Nick Fuentes has lit it on fire. He know Nick Fuentes has lit it on fire. He know Nick Fuentes has lit it on fire. He has said it repeatedly. Don't vote for has said it repeatedly. Don't vote for has said it repeatedly. Don't vote for Trump. This is the worst. Don't do this Trump. This is the worst. Don't do this Trump. This is the worst. Don't do this thing. thing. thing. >> Do you think Trump I'm asking this >> Do you think Trump I'm asking this >> Do you think Trump I'm asking this because I know the midterms is coming because I know the midterms is coming because I know the midterms is coming and you guys about to get a bunch of and you guys about to get a bunch of and you guys about to get a bunch of campaign ad. So, I'm trying to drill campaign ad. So, I'm trying to drill campaign ad. So, I'm trying to drill this into your head before you see some this into your head before you see some this into your head before you see some this guy is trying to take your babies this guy is trying to take your babies this guy is trying to take your babies like before those ads start. Is there like before those ads start. Is there like before those ads start. Is there something that Trump can do based like something that Trump can do based like something that Trump can do based like to try to get this momentum going to try to get this momentum going to try to get this momentum going rolling into the midterms, but he's he's rolling into the midterms, but he's he's rolling into the midterms, but he's he's losing that cultural energy. So, is losing that cultural energy. So, is losing that cultural energy. So, is there is can he turn Iran into a a there is can he turn Iran into a a there is can he turn Iran into a a victory lap and maybe that will help? victory lap and maybe that will help? victory lap and maybe that will help? So, it's just he So, it's just he So, it's just he >> make people rich. >> make people rich. >> make people rich. >> So, I mean, I'm remarkably consistent. >> So, I mean, I'm remarkably consistent. >> So, I mean, I'm remarkably consistent. Like it is not tell people that God Like it is not tell people that God Like it is not tell people that God loves us best. It is not tell people loves us best. It is not tell people loves us best. It is not tell people that God loves Trump best. It is make that God loves Trump best. It is make that God loves Trump best. It is make people rich. If you put money in the people rich. If you put money in the people rich. If you put money in the middle and workingass pockets, he will middle and workingass pockets, he will middle and workingass pockets, he will get reelected. If he fails to do that, get reelected. If he fails to do that, get reelected. If he fails to do that, he will not. It's that simple. And so he will not. It's that simple. And so he will not. It's that simple. And so he's running an all or nothing gamut he's running an all or nothing gamut he's running an all or nothing gamut where it's um it is where it's um it is where it's um it is I'm going to spend like a drunken I'm going to spend like a drunken I'm going to spend like a drunken sailor. I'm going to be completely sailor. I'm going to be completely sailor. I'm going to be completely irresponsible with um irresponsible with um irresponsible with um inflation. Just to round it to the nice inflation. Just to round it to the nice inflation. Just to round it to the nice simple, anytime you deficit spend, simple, anytime you deficit spend, simple, anytime you deficit spend, you're robbing from the middle and you're robbing from the middle and you're robbing from the middle and working class. You're robbing from working class. You're robbing from working class. You're robbing from everybody, but you give back to people everybody, but you give back to people everybody, but you give back to people that have assets. And I'm going to grow that have assets. And I'm going to grow that have assets. And I'm going to grow more than I steal from you. And if he more than I steal from you. And if he more than I steal from you. And if he does that, then people will be happy. If does that, then people will be happy. If does that, then people will be happy. If he steals more than he um gives, then he steals more than he um gives, then he steals more than he um gives, then he'll get outvoted and he will end up he'll get outvoted and he will end up he'll get outvoted and he will end up being stalked legally until he's in being stalked legally until he's in being stalked legally until he's in prison or until he dies. Like th those prison or until he dies. Like th those prison or until he dies. Like th those are his two plays. Especially because are his two plays. Especially because are his two plays. Especially because now there's rumors, rumors, alleged now there's rumors, rumors, alleged now there's rumors, rumors, alleged alleged, but there are rumors that um alleged, but there are rumors that um alleged, but there are rumors that um Obama has just brought on like a Obama has just brought on like a Obama has just brought on like a nineperson nineperson nineperson um criminal defense team because he um criminal defense team because he um criminal defense team because he believes that he's about to be indicted. believes that he's about to be indicted. believes that he's about to be indicted. Alleged. Alleged. Alleged. Um so we'll Alleged. Alleged. Alleged. Um so we'll Alleged. Alleged. Alleged. Um so we'll see if that ends up being true. If the see if that ends up being true. If the see if that ends up being true. If the Trump administration is dumb enough to Trump administration is dumb enough to Trump administration is dumb enough to do that and then they lose the midterms, do that and then they lose the midterms, do that and then they lose the midterms, oh buddy, it is game over. That would be oh buddy, it is game over. That would be oh buddy, it is game over. That would be so dumb. Um, okay. You set me up. You so dumb. Um, okay. You set me up. You so dumb. Um, okay. You set me up. You set me up. So, when you set me up, Tom, set me up. So, when you set me up, Tom, set me up. So, when you set me up, Tom, I got to spike the ball. I got to spike the ball. I got to spike the ball. >> Do it. >> Do it. >> Do it. >> U, Bernie Sanders is proposing a four a >> U, Bernie Sanders is proposing a four a >> U, Bernie Sanders is proposing a four a bill to raise 4.4 trillion in taxes from bill to raise 4.4 trillion in taxes from bill to raise 4.4 trillion in taxes from America's billionaires. America's billionaires. America's billionaires. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> A move that would virtually cut their >> A move that would virtually cut their >> A move that would virtually cut their massive fortunes in half. A chunk of the massive fortunes in half. A chunk of the massive fortunes in half. A chunk of the money will go towards sending 3K money will go towards sending 3K money will go towards sending 3K stimulus checks to every person earning stimulus checks to every person earning stimulus checks to every person earning 150. 150. 150. >> Okay. There goes the money in the >> Okay. There goes the money in the >> Okay. There goes the money in the pocket. pocket. pocket. >> Hey, hey, credit where credit is due. At >> Hey, hey, credit where credit is due. At >> Hey, hey, credit where credit is due. At least he's like, "All right, I'm going least he's like, "All right, I'm going least he's like, "All right, I'm going to steal from these [ __ ] but I'm to steal from these [ __ ] but I'm to steal from these [ __ ] but I'm going to give it to you cuz I don't I'm going to give it to you cuz I don't I'm going to give it to you cuz I don't I'm not going to balance the budget, but not going to balance the budget, but not going to balance the budget, but I'm going to I'm going to steal, but I'm I'm going to I'm going to steal, but I'm I'm going to I'm going to steal, but I'm I'm going to steal from you, but I'm I'm going to steal from you, but I'm I'm going to steal from you, but I'm going to give you some. I'm going to going to give you some. I'm going to going to give you some. I'm going to give you some." So, now we're in on the give you some." So, now we're in on the give you some." So, now we're in on the racket together. That's at least smart. racket together. That's at least smart. racket together. That's at least smart. This is Trump's playbook. This is people This is Trump's playbook. This is people This is Trump's playbook. This is people really going, "Oh, really going, "Oh, really going, "Oh, word. Morality doesn't matter. Don't word. Morality doesn't matter. Don't word. Morality doesn't matter. Don't [ __ ] I none of that matters. I'm going [ __ ] I none of that matters. I'm going [ __ ] I none of that matters. I'm going to take your [ __ ] but I'm going to to take your [ __ ] but I'm going to to take your [ __ ] but I'm going to break the economy. Don't worry. Don't break the economy. Don't worry. Don't break the economy. Don't worry. Don't worry about that part. It's all going to worry about that part. It's all going to worry about that part. It's all going to be bad. be bad. be bad. >> You have 8,000. What's the economy? >> You have 8,000. What's the economy? >> You have 8,000. What's the economy? >> All of it. >> All of it. >> All of it. >> But I'm going to give you three grand. >> But I'm going to give you three grand. >> But I'm going to give you three grand. So, this is going to be awesome. I look, So, this is going to be awesome. I look, So, this is going to be awesome. I look, I know it. Hey, it didn't work out in I know it. Hey, it didn't work out in I know it. Hey, it didn't work out in New York. And I know 47 days after New York. And I know 47 days after New York. And I know 47 days after promising that he was going to like put promising that he was going to like put promising that he was going to like put money in your pocket, make a bunch of money in your pocket, make a bunch of money in your pocket, make a bunch of [ __ ] free, started, you raised your [ __ ] free, started, you raised your [ __ ] free, started, you raised your taxes. I know. I know. I know. Your taxes. I know. I know. I know. Your taxes. I know. I know. I know. Your rents went up despite me promising I was rents went up despite me promising I was rents went up despite me promising I was going to lower it. Don't worry about going to lower it. Don't worry about going to lower it. Don't worry about that. So, let me take their money and that. So, let me take their money and that. So, let me take their money and I'll give you three grand. It's going to I'll give you three grand. It's going to I'll give you three grand. It's going to be good. You guys are going to love it. be good. You guys are going to love it. be good. You guys are going to love it. >> It get It gets better. It gets better. >> It get It gets better. It gets better. >> It get It gets better. It gets better. >> This is >> This is >> This is >> The money would also be used to reverse >> The money would also be used to reverse >> The money would also be used to reverse the cuts to Medicaid, raise the minimum the cuts to Medicaid, raise the minimum the cuts to Medicaid, raise the minimum salary of every public school teacher to salary of every public school teacher to salary of every public school teacher to 60K. Expand Medicare to cover dental, 60K. Expand Medicare to cover dental, 60K. Expand Medicare to cover dental, vision, and hearing for seniors. vision, and hearing for seniors. vision, and hearing for seniors. >> Build 850 billion of affordable housing. >> Build 850 billion of affordable housing. >> Build 850 billion of affordable housing. Another tweet had like end homelessness. Another tweet had like end homelessness. Another tweet had like end homelessness. So, when they say affordable housing, So, when they say affordable housing, So, when they say affordable housing, it's not just like luxury apartments in it's not just like luxury apartments in it's not just like luxury apartments in downtown LA type thing. downtown LA type thing. downtown LA type thing. >> Provide universal childare. Remind me >> Provide universal childare. Remind me >> Provide universal childare. Remind me how much of what was the raw amount of how much of what was the raw amount of how much of what was the raw amount of dollars he was gonna take from the dollars he was gonna take from the dollars he was gonna take from the wealthy? wealthy? wealthy? >> 4.4 trillion. >> 4.4 trillion. >> 4.4 trillion. >> Okay. Uh Drew, do you remember how many >> Okay. Uh Drew, do you remember how many >> Okay. Uh Drew, do you remember how many trillion dollars just in deficit trillion dollars just in deficit trillion dollars just in deficit spending we do every year? spending we do every year? spending we do every year? >> I want to say 2.5. >> I want to say 2.5. >> I want to say 2.5. >> Yep. So roughly two. >> Yep. So roughly two. >> Yep. So roughly two. >> Yeah. Two. >> Yeah. Two. >> Yeah. Two. >> So what he's stealing is going to be >> So what he's stealing is going to be >> So what he's stealing is going to be roughly two years just of overage. So roughly two years just of overage. So roughly two years just of overage. So he's going to take half their wealth. So he's going to take half their wealth. So he's going to take half their wealth. So he's now admitting if I took all their he's now admitting if I took all their he's now admitting if I took all their wealth, it's just four years of overage, wealth, it's just four years of overage, wealth, it's just four years of overage, I'm not changing anything about our I'm not changing anything about our I'm not changing anything about our deficit spending. And by the way, deficit spending. And by the way, deficit spending. And by the way, >> I'm going to increase our deficit >> I'm going to increase our deficit >> I'm going to increase our deficit spending once we're out of this because spending once we're out of this because spending once we're out of this because these policies will all be put in place. these policies will all be put in place. these policies will all be put in place. And I will, as Margaret Thatcher has And I will, as Margaret Thatcher has And I will, as Margaret Thatcher has tried to [ __ ] tell people, I will tried to [ __ ] tell people, I will tried to [ __ ] tell people, I will have run out of other people's money. have run out of other people's money. have run out of other people's money. Now I have nowhere to go. I did not Now I have nowhere to go. I did not Now I have nowhere to go. I did not change our spending problem at all. And change our spending problem at all. And change our spending problem at all. And first I bought you uh 2 years just of first I bought you uh 2 years just of first I bought you uh 2 years just of the deficit spending by the way at the deficit spending by the way at the deficit spending by the way at current levels. So all the smoke and current levels. So all the smoke and current levels. So all the smoke and mirrors and all that's all [ __ ] mirrors and all that's all [ __ ] mirrors and all that's all [ __ ] >> Um then after four years even if I >> Um then after four years even if I >> Um then after four years even if I confiscate all their wealth all all confiscate all their wealth all all confiscate all their wealth all all their wealth 100% of it guess who I'm their wealth 100% of it guess who I'm their wealth 100% of it guess who I'm coming after next coming after next coming after next >> did not tell billionaires. >> did not tell billionaires. >> did not tell billionaires. >> Correct. Because you guys have all the >> Correct. Because you guys have all the >> Correct. Because you guys have all the money. And once people understand money. And once people understand money. And once people understand billionaires only have like I forget the billionaires only have like I forget the billionaires only have like I forget the exact number I'm going to it's less than exact number I'm going to it's less than exact number I'm going to it's less than 10%. 10%. 10%. >> So now all of a sudden it's like uh oh >> So now all of a sudden it's like uh oh >> So now all of a sudden it's like uh oh Z's they're coming for everybody. This Z's they're coming for everybody. This Z's they're coming for everybody. This is how it always plays out. And so it is is how it always plays out. And so it is is how it always plays out. And so it is wild to me. Either Bernie Sanders is so wild to me. Either Bernie Sanders is so wild to me. Either Bernie Sanders is so dumb that he has no business being an dumb that he has no business being an dumb that he has no business being an elected official or he is evil. I don't elected official or he is evil. I don't elected official or he is evil. I don't know. He doesn't he actually doesn't know. He doesn't he actually doesn't know. He doesn't he actually doesn't strike me as dumb strike me as dumb strike me as dumb >> or sorry he doesn't strike me as evil. I >> or sorry he doesn't strike me as evil. I >> or sorry he doesn't strike me as evil. I I don't look at him and see somebody I don't look at him and see somebody I don't look at him and see somebody who's evil. So I'm only left with he's who's evil. So I'm only left with he's who's evil. So I'm only left with he's [ __ ] dumb. So it it is look economics [ __ ] dumb. So it it is look economics [ __ ] dumb. So it it is look economics they are hard to understand. It is a they are hard to understand. It is a they are hard to understand. It is a very complex animal. But the same people very complex animal. But the same people very complex animal. But the same people that will just go ballistic over tariffs that will just go ballistic over tariffs that will just go ballistic over tariffs or attacks and how dare you and this is or attacks and how dare you and this is or attacks and how dare you and this is going to absolutely destroy the economy. going to absolutely destroy the economy. going to absolutely destroy the economy. uh cannot see their way to running the uh cannot see their way to running the uh cannot see their way to running the math on well how much wealth do they math on well how much wealth do they math on well how much wealth do they have and if you take it all what are you have and if you take it all what are you have and if you take it all what are you left with and once you take it all what left with and once you take it all what left with and once you take it all what do you are you going to then change the do you are you going to then change the do you are you going to then change the spending structure and oh ps if you're spending structure and oh ps if you're spending structure and oh ps if you're willing to change the spending structure willing to change the spending structure willing to change the spending structure in four years why aren't you willing to in four years why aren't you willing to in four years why aren't you willing to change it now because you can't give change it now because you can't give change it now because you can't give these breaks to everybody for long you these breaks to everybody for long you these breaks to everybody for long you know that your own math tells you that know that your own math tells you that know that your own math tells you that so cool I accept remember his own so cool I accept remember his own so cool I accept remember his own [ __ ] words I'm taking half their [ __ ] words I'm taking half their [ __ ] words I'm taking half their wealth now to give you guys three grand wealth now to give you guys three grand wealth now to give you guys three grand checks and make these changes none of checks and make these changes none of checks and make these changes none of that's going to impact the deficit that's going to impact the deficit that's going to impact the deficit >> what happens in two years >> what happens in two years >> what happens in two years >> yeah correct Correct. And so then it's >> yeah correct Correct. And so then it's >> yeah correct Correct. And so then it's like, well, he's going to steal the like, well, he's going to steal the like, well, he's going to steal the rest. Yeah, probably. But by the way, rest. Yeah, probably. But by the way, rest. Yeah, probably. But by the way, and we haven't even talked about one and we haven't even talked about one and we haven't even talked about one thing which we have to talk about. Hey, thing which we have to talk about. Hey, thing which we have to talk about. Hey, as a reminder, you're going to force as a reminder, you're going to force as a reminder, you're going to force none of none of that money is real. none of none of that money is real. none of none of that money is real. Okay, this is the part that people keep Okay, this is the part that people keep Okay, this is the part that people keep forgetting. It's not real money. It's forgetting. It's not real money. It's forgetting. It's not real money. It's potential money. And when you go and try potential money. And when you go and try potential money. And when you go and try to um sell, make them sell their things to um sell, make them sell their things to um sell, make them sell their things so that they can pay this tax burden, it so that they can pay this tax burden, it so that they can pay this tax burden, it breaks the economy. All the assets breaks the economy. All the assets breaks the economy. All the assets plummet in value. Also, if you're a plummet in value. Also, if you're a plummet in value. Also, if you're a builder and the government just took builder and the government just took builder and the government just took away half of your money, um, one, did away half of your money, um, one, did away half of your money, um, one, did you flee the country ahead of time? Yes. you flee the country ahead of time? Yes. you flee the country ahead of time? Yes. Did you do anything and everything that Did you do anything and everything that Did you do anything and everything that you could to avoid this? Yes. Um, will you could to avoid this? Yes. Um, will you could to avoid this? Yes. Um, will you stop producing if there are no you stop producing if there are no you stop producing if there are no upsides? Yes. How, Tom? How do you know upsides? Yes. How, Tom? How do you know upsides? Yes. How, Tom? How do you know that's true, Tom? Are you just reading that's true, Tom? Are you just reading that's true, Tom? Are you just reading that [ __ ] Anne Rand book? No, that [ __ ] Anne Rand book? No, that [ __ ] Anne Rand book? No, [ __ ] I'm looking at China. So, [ __ ] I'm looking at China. So, [ __ ] I'm looking at China. So, look at China. Innovation equals zero look at China. Innovation equals zero look at China. Innovation equals zero for Mao's entire reign. Why? Because he for Mao's entire reign. Why? Because he for Mao's entire reign. Why? Because he wanted to make sure that everybody had wanted to make sure that everybody had wanted to make sure that everybody had equal outcomes and so there was no equal outcomes and so there was no equal outcomes and so there was no reward for you for innovating. So why reward for you for innovating. So why reward for you for innovating. So why the [ __ ] would you innovate? Then Mao the [ __ ] would you innovate? Then Mao the [ __ ] would you innovate? Then Mao dies. Thank God. Deng Xiaoing comes into dies. Thank God. Deng Xiaoing comes into dies. Thank God. Deng Xiaoing comes into uh power and he says getting rich is uh power and he says getting rich is uh power and he says getting rich is awesome and he lets what happen? He lets awesome and he lets what happen? He lets awesome and he lets what happen? He lets people get inequal outcomes. He lets people get inequal outcomes. He lets people get inequal outcomes. He lets inequality happen. And what happens over inequality happen. And what happens over inequality happen. And what happens over the next couple of decades? More people the next couple of decades? More people the next couple of decades? More people are pul p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p are pul p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p are pul p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p pulled out of grinding poverty p p p p pulled out of grinding poverty p p p p pulled out of grinding poverty than any other time in human history. Oh than any other time in human history. Oh than any other time in human history. Oh [ __ ] that's right. The these policies [ __ ] that's right. The these policies [ __ ] that's right. The these policies have consequences. And when you have consequences. And when you have consequences. And when you incentivize builders to build by letting incentivize builders to build by letting incentivize builders to build by letting them win more than the next person, they them win more than the next person, they them win more than the next person, they innovate and they build and it helps innovate and they build and it helps innovate and they build and it helps everybody. And when you break their back everybody. And when you break their back everybody. And when you break their back and steal their [ __ ] they stop [ __ ] and steal their [ __ ] they stop [ __ ] and steal their [ __ ] they stop [ __ ] innovating. innovating. innovating. So boys and girls, can we please admit So boys and girls, can we please admit So boys and girls, can we please admit these things are knowable? the cause and these things are knowable? the cause and these things are knowable? the cause and effect is knowable. And if you uh depart effect is knowable. And if you uh depart effect is knowable. And if you uh depart the cause and effect train for the the cause and effect train for the the cause and effect train for the emotional train, you start acting like a emotional train, you start acting like a emotional train, you start acting like a [ __ ] idiot. And you make decisions [ __ ] idiot. And you make decisions [ __ ] idiot. And you make decisions that absolutely collapse economies. It's that absolutely collapse economies. It's that absolutely collapse economies. It's so [ __ ] [ __ ] so [ __ ] [ __ ] so [ __ ] [ __ ] >> Okay, we got some super chats, but >> Okay, we got some super chats, but >> Okay, we got some super chats, but there's been two bangers. One, CC crazy there's been two bangers. One, CC crazy there's been two bangers. One, CC crazy said, "I thought we had financial said, "I thought we had financial said, "I thought we had financial deficit cuz we already ran out of other deficit cuz we already ran out of other deficit cuz we already ran out of other people's money. That's good." And then people's money. That's good." And then people's money. That's good." And then >> why is that good? >> why is that good? >> why is that good? >> No, that was like funny. Like it's >> No, that was like funny. Like it's >> No, that was like funny. Like it's funny. Like the reason we have a funny. Like the reason we have a funny. Like the reason we have a spending deficit is cuz we already don't spending deficit is cuz we already don't spending deficit is cuz we already don't have enough money to take. So why are we have enough money to take. So why are we have enough money to take. So why are we trying to like run that math? trying to like run that math? trying to like run that math? >> Yeah. Facts. How? Okay. Yes. It's a >> Yeah. Facts. How? Okay. Yes. It's a >> Yeah. Facts. How? Okay. Yes. It's a funny joke. Yes. I don't funny joke. Yes. I don't funny joke. Yes. I don't >> [ __ ] move on that. I'm triggered. I'm >> [ __ ] move on that. I'm triggered. I'm >> [ __ ] move on that. I'm triggered. I'm triggered. Drew. triggered. Drew. triggered. Drew. >> Second one was Jay Welk92. He said it's >> Second one was Jay Welk92. He said it's >> Second one was Jay Welk92. He said it's Troy Dinger's money. That's why it's Troy Dinger's money. That's why it's Troy Dinger's money. That's why it's >> it's whose money? >> it's whose money? >> it's whose money? >> Troy Dinger's money. Like the Troy >> Troy Dinger's money. Like the Troy >> Troy Dinger's money. Like the Troy Dinger's cat in the box. Dinger's cat in the box. Dinger's cat in the box. >> Oh, Schrodinger's money. >> Oh, Schrodinger's money. >> Oh, Schrodinger's money. >> Shrodinger's money. So, if you look at >> Shrodinger's money. So, if you look at >> Shrodinger's money. So, if you look at the money, then the money's there. But the money, then the money's there. But the money, then the money's there. But if you don't see it, the if you don't see it, the if you don't see it, the >> Oh my god. Wait, who said that? >> Oh my god. Wait, who said that? >> Oh my god. Wait, who said that? >> Jay Welk92. >> Jay Welk92. >> Jay Welk92. >> Jay, you are I'm going to steal that. >> Jay, you are I'm going to steal that. >> Jay, you are I'm going to steal that. endlessly. That was good. endlessly. That was good. endlessly. That was good. >> Please know, I won't always remember to >> Please know, I won't always remember to >> Please know, I won't always remember to credit you, but in your heart, you need credit you, but in your heart, you need credit you, but in your heart, you need to know every time I call it to know every time I call it to know every time I call it Schrodinger's money that you deserve the Schrodinger's money that you deserve the Schrodinger's money that you deserve the credit. And you can just play this clip credit. And you can just play this clip credit. And you can just play this clip on a loop uh on your channel if you have on a loop uh on your channel if you have on a loop uh on your channel if you have one. Post it out. Shrodinger's money. Oh one. Post it out. Shrodinger's money. Oh one. Post it out. Shrodinger's money. Oh my god, that's so brilliant. my god, that's so brilliant. my god, that's so brilliant. >> All right, we got super chat. Great. >> All right, we got super chat. Great. >> All right, we got super chat. Great. >> Yes, we got four super chats to go >> Yes, we got four super chats to go >> Yes, we got four super chats to go through from our favorite name, Big through from our favorite name, Big through from our favorite name, Big Diggers. There he is. Diggers. There he is. Diggers. There he is. >> Clumsy initial poll question. War is a >> Clumsy initial poll question. War is a >> Clumsy initial poll question. War is a spectrum and will be subjectively spectrum and will be subjectively spectrum and will be subjectively interpreted. Are we at e are we at interpreted. Are we at e are we at interpreted. Are we at e are we at economic war with China? Trump's style economic war with China? Trump's style economic war with China? Trump's style of diet regime change leaves the social of diet regime change leaves the social of diet regime change leaves the social infrastructure and demands local pop infrastructure and demands local pop infrastructure and demands local pop take over. take over. take over. >> The question was do you support the war >> The question was do you support the war >> The question was do you support the war with Iran? with Iran? with Iran? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right, right, right. Uh that's >> Right, right, right. Uh that's >> Right, right, right. Uh that's interesting. So yeah, when asked, do you interesting. So yeah, when asked, do you interesting. So yeah, when asked, do you support the war? It's a little too support the war? It's a little too support the war? It's a little too blocky of a question. I get that. That's blocky of a question. I get that. That's blocky of a question. I get that. That's deft. Kudos to our man Big Digglers. And deft. Kudos to our man Big Digglers. And deft. Kudos to our man Big Digglers. And then another from big diglers. then another from big diglers. then another from big diglers. Hormuse/qr uncertainty threatens Europe Hormuse/qr uncertainty threatens Europe Hormuse/qr uncertainty threatens Europe LNG imports. Doubt Putin missed this LNG imports. Doubt Putin missed this LNG imports. Doubt Putin missed this dynamic. What concessions he'll demand dynamic. What concessions he'll demand dynamic. What concessions he'll demand to grant Europe the privilege of buying to grant Europe the privilege of buying to grant Europe the privilege of buying Russian NG? Also, oil spikes. Russian NG? Also, oil spikes. Russian NG? Also, oil spikes. >> Wait, wait, wait. That's that's an >> Wait, wait, wait. That's that's an >> Wait, wait, wait. That's that's an interesting question. interesting question. interesting question. Wow. Yes, that that's a really Wow. Yes, that that's a really Wow. Yes, that that's a really interesting bank shot about okay, we interesting bank shot about okay, we interesting bank shot about okay, we disrupt the straight of hormones. At disrupt the straight of hormones. At disrupt the straight of hormones. At what point would we go, "All right, all what point would we go, "All right, all what point would we go, "All right, all right, all right." Like, you guys can right, all right." Like, you guys can right, all right." Like, you guys can buy something from Germany. I'll tell buy something from Germany. I'll tell buy something from Germany. I'll tell you, if you get to a cold winter you, if you get to a cold winter you, if you get to a cold winter and we're still in that position, yeah, and we're still in that position, yeah, and we're still in that position, yeah, like that would get weird. That's really like that would get weird. That's really like that would get weird. That's really insightful. Who said that? Is this Big insightful. Who said that? Is this Big insightful. Who said that? Is this Big Diggers? Diggers? Diggers? >> It's also Big Digglers. >> It's also Big Digglers. >> It's also Big Digglers. >> How could a guy with that name like drop >> How could a guy with that name like drop >> How could a guy with that name like drop these really insightful? these really insightful? these really insightful? >> Because we're balanced, Tom. We are not >> Because we're balanced, Tom. We are not >> Because we're balanced, Tom. We are not a monolith in this big digl I love my a monolith in this big digl I love my a monolith in this big digl I love my chat. Shout out to y'all. Y'all the chat. Shout out to y'all. Y'all the chat. Shout out to y'all. Y'all the best. He also rounded that out by saying best. He also rounded that out by saying best. He also rounded that out by saying it'll hurt the oil importers is it'll hurt the oil importers is it'll hurt the oil importers is something that he finished up. Um oil something that he finished up. Um oil something that he finished up. Um oil spikes. spikes. spikes. >> Yeah, that's facts. So, no doubt. Yeah, >> Yeah, that's facts. So, no doubt. Yeah, >> Yeah, that's facts. So, no doubt. Yeah, you could be you could be in for some you could be you could be in for some you could be you could be in for some pain and suffering if they close pain and suffering if they close pain and suffering if they close straight of hormbody that's importing a straight of hormbody that's importing a straight of hormbody that's importing a lot of oil. The US uh manufactures more lot of oil. The US uh manufactures more lot of oil. The US uh manufactures more oil than any country in the world over oil than any country in the world over oil than any country in the world over the last seven years. So, yeah, we we the last seven years. So, yeah, we we the last seven years. So, yeah, we we the Saudi Arabia. Now, uh, next up, the Saudi Arabia. Now, uh, next up, the Saudi Arabia. Now, uh, next up, another great name, Alien in My another great name, Alien in My another great name, Alien in My Beverage, says, "We need values to Beverage, says, "We need values to Beverage, says, "We need values to detect exploitation, leveraging detect exploitation, leveraging detect exploitation, leveraging selection effects instead of letting the selection effects instead of letting the selection effects instead of letting the market create them. We need freedom of market create them. We need freedom of market create them. We need freedom of all commerce/spech to detect ideological all commerce/spech to detect ideological all commerce/spech to detect ideological creeps, moralized self-interest, creeps, moralized self-interest, creeps, moralized self-interest, mimicking values." mimicking values." mimicking values." >> That's really interesting. I think >> That's really interesting. I think >> That's really interesting. I think values are weaponized more than that may values are weaponized more than that may values are weaponized more than that may give it credit for. I think that one of give it credit for. I think that one of give it credit for. I think that one of the ways to hijack the human mind is via the ways to hijack the human mind is via the ways to hijack the human mind is via values. um by either telling them that values. um by either telling them that values. um by either telling them that you agree with their values when you you agree with their values when you you agree with their values when you really don't or handing them values that really don't or handing them values that really don't or handing them values that they otherwise wouldn't have had. Um so they otherwise wouldn't have had. Um so they otherwise wouldn't have had. Um so yeah, values are a real thing. You take yeah, values are a real thing. You take yeah, values are a real thing. You take your eyes off them at your own peril. your eyes off them at your own peril. your eyes off them at your own peril. >> Luis Raina 6895 jumping to a new topic. >> Luis Raina 6895 jumping to a new topic. >> Luis Raina 6895 jumping to a new topic. Good morning, Tom and the team. Longtime Good morning, Tom and the team. Longtime Good morning, Tom and the team. Longtime subscriber here. In your last show, you subscriber here. In your last show, you subscriber here. In your last show, you emphasized learning AI several times. emphasized learning AI several times. emphasized learning AI several times. Yes. As a 53year-old currently midway Yes. As a 53year-old currently midway Yes. As a 53year-old currently midway through learning Python, how would you through learning Python, how would you through learning Python, how would you learn AI quickly? So build something learn AI quickly? So build something learn AI quickly? So build something with it. So the fastest way to learn how with it. So the fastest way to learn how with it. So the fastest way to learn how to do something is to do it and then to do something is to do it and then to do something is to do it and then teach it. If you did that onetwo step of teach it. If you did that onetwo step of teach it. If you did that onetwo step of uh I'm going to use this to create uh I'm going to use this to create uh I'm going to use this to create something real and then I'm going to something real and then I'm going to something real and then I'm going to explain to other people what I'm doing. explain to other people what I'm doing. explain to other people what I'm doing. Um the doing it is super super Um the doing it is super super Um the doing it is super super important. And then when you're doing important. And then when you're doing important. And then when you're doing it, as you try to explain it to somebody it, as you try to explain it to somebody it, as you try to explain it to somebody else, you're forced to it's almost like else, you're forced to it's almost like else, you're forced to it's almost like when you sleep and dream and you when you sleep and dream and you when you sleep and dream and you categorize all the knowledge, it forces categorize all the knowledge, it forces categorize all the knowledge, it forces you to get to the point where you you to get to the point where you you to get to the point where you realize, oh, I actually don't understand realize, oh, I actually don't understand realize, oh, I actually don't understand this part of it. Certainly not well this part of it. Certainly not well this part of it. Certainly not well enough to explain. And so that's always enough to explain. And so that's always enough to explain. And so that's always a magical one-two punch. Part of the a magical one-two punch. Part of the a magical one-two punch. Part of the reason that I still teach even though I reason that I still teach even though I reason that I still teach even though I don't need to is that like it forces me don't need to is that like it forces me don't need to is that like it forces me to like really make sure that I to like really make sure that I to like really make sure that I understand principles which make them understand principles which make them understand principles which make them far easier to wield. So that's what I far easier to wield. So that's what I far easier to wield. So that's what I would do. would do. would do. >> Cool. We got that's it for this. >> Cool. We got that's it for this. >> Cool. We got that's it for this. >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> All right. Well, speaking of that was a >> All right. Well, speaking of that was a >> All right. Well, speaking of that was a perfect transition. perfect transition. perfect transition. >> There wasn't. No, no, that was a it was >> There wasn't. No, no, that was a it was >> There wasn't. No, no, that was a it was $5 in a different currency. $5 in a different currency. $5 in a different currency. >> Nice. All right, guys. Uh, speaking of >> Nice. All right, guys. Uh, speaking of >> Nice. All right, guys. Uh, speaking of AI, which has been a theme through AI, which has been a theme through AI, which has been a theme through today, we have a zero to founder AI today, we have a zero to founder AI today, we have a zero to founder AI master class that's happening this master class that's happening this master class that's happening this Thursday, March 5th at 1 p.m. Pacific Thursday, March 5th at 1 p.m. Pacific Thursday, March 5th at 1 p.m. Pacific time. Um, this has become like a a time. Um, this has become like a a time. Um, this has become like a a existential question for all of us as existential question for all of us as existential question for all of us as economic units. If you don't understand economic units. If you don't understand economic units. If you don't understand AI, you will get left behind. AI is AI, you will get left behind. AI is AI, you will get left behind. AI is going to completely change the uh jobs going to completely change the uh jobs going to completely change the uh jobs market. So, let's say that no job goes market. So, let's say that no job goes market. So, let's say that no job goes away. um that on balance, same number of away. um that on balance, same number of away. um that on balance, same number of jobs. I promise your job, you will lose jobs. I promise your job, you will lose jobs. 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