The #1 Reason You Keep Failing at Fitness (It's Not What You Think) | Mind Pump 2841

One of the most guaranteed ways to fail One of the most guaranteed ways to fail long-term with your fitness success is long-term with your fitness success is long-term with your fitness success is by having the wrong motivation. By the by having the wrong motivation. By the by having the wrong motivation. By the way, this motivation I'm talking about way, this motivation I'm talking about way, this motivation I'm talking about also happens to be the most common one. also happens to be the most common one. also happens to be the most common one. It's the one value everybody focuses on. It's the one value everybody focuses on. It's the one value everybody focuses on. It's how you look. Don't make your It's how you look. Don't make your It's how you look. Don't make your fitness about how you look. It will make fitness about how you look. It will make fitness about how you look. It will make you fail almost every single time. you fail almost every single time. you fail almost every single time. >> God, it's so hard. It's so easy to say. >> God, it's so hard. It's so easy to say. >> God, it's so hard. It's so easy to say. I think that's so easy to say that, but I think that's so easy to say that, but I think that's so easy to say that, but it's so difficult I think for totally it's so difficult I think for totally it's so difficult I think for totally for all of us. I don't not just uh our for all of us. I don't not just uh our for all of us. I don't not just uh our clients. I think it's it's tough to not clients. I think it's it's tough to not clients. I think it's it's tough to not um I mean, at least personally, it's um I mean, at least personally, it's um I mean, at least personally, it's it's taken it's taken it's taken >> most of my fitness journey to get to a >> most of my fitness journey to get to a >> most of my fitness journey to get to a place where I feel like that's not a place where I feel like that's not a place where I feel like that's not a >> a focal point. I think that >> a focal point. I think that >> a focal point. I think that >> you we you look at yourself in the >> you we you look at yourself in the >> you we you look at yourself in the mirror every day. It's it's typically mirror every day. It's it's typically mirror every day. It's it's typically what motivated you to get your ass to what motivated you to get your ass to what motivated you to get your ass to the gym to make change is that you saw the gym to make change is that you saw the gym to make change is that you saw something you didn't like and you know something you didn't like and you know something you didn't like and you know that making better food choices and that making better food choices and that making better food choices and going to the gym is going to fix that or going to the gym is going to fix that or going to the gym is going to fix that or change that and so initially most always change that and so initially most always change that and so initially most always it's the main motivation that got you it's the main motivation that got you it's the main motivation that got you started. So hard to get somebody to move started. So hard to get somebody to move started. So hard to get somebody to move from that from that from that >> 100%. um in the world uh and I say the >> 100%. um in the world uh and I say the >> 100%. um in the world uh and I say the world like media um social media world like media um social media world like media um social media advertisers advertisers advertisers uh this is the part that they focus on uh this is the part that they focus on uh this is the part that they focus on not just with fitness but uh everything not just with fitness but uh everything not just with fitness but uh everything tells you that this is so valuable that tells you that this is so valuable that tells you that this is so valuable that how you look is so important and so how you look is so important and so how you look is so important and so valuable and it's going to give you all valuable and it's going to give you all valuable and it's going to give you all this success and happiness uh and that this success and happiness uh and that this success and happiness uh and that it's so much more important than all it's so much more important than all it's so much more important than all these other things. Um, the way I like these other things. Um, the way I like these other things. Um, the way I like to communicate this because when I'm on to communicate this because when I'm on to communicate this because when I'm on podcast, other shows, uh, oftentimes podcast, other shows, uh, oftentimes podcast, other shows, uh, oftentimes this topic comes up and, um, when you're this topic comes up and, um, when you're this topic comes up and, um, when you're looking at something that you want to do looking at something that you want to do looking at something that you want to do for the rest of your life, because for the rest of your life, because for the rest of your life, because ideally, ideally, ideally, if you're like, I want to get in shape, if you're like, I want to get in shape, if you're like, I want to get in shape, uh, you probably want to stay in shape, uh, you probably want to stay in shape, uh, you probably want to stay in shape, right? Ideally, you would want to be right? Ideally, you would want to be right? Ideally, you would want to be able to do this for the rest of your able to do this for the rest of your able to do this for the rest of your life. Well, that's a, um, for lack of a life. Well, that's a, um, for lack of a life. Well, that's a, um, for lack of a better term, that's a relationship with better term, that's a relationship with better term, that's a relationship with something. Anything you do forever, something. Anything you do forever, something. Anything you do forever, uh, or until you die is, um, a uh, or until you die is, um, a uh, or until you die is, um, a relationship. And it could be an relationship. And it could be an relationship. And it could be an unhealthy relationship or it can be a unhealthy relationship or it can be a unhealthy relationship or it can be a healthy one. And in order to have a healthy one. And in order to have a healthy one. And in order to have a healthy relationship with anything healthy relationship with anything healthy relationship with anything that's long-term, it has to be complete. that's long-term, it has to be complete. that's long-term, it has to be complete. It has to be a to like a complete It has to be a to like a complete It has to be a to like a complete understanding understanding understanding of what this is doing for you and why of what this is doing for you and why of what this is doing for you and why you do it. Uh so how you look is you do it. Uh so how you look is you do it. Uh so how you look is definitely a value. So what what we're definitely a value. So what what we're definitely a value. So what what we're not saying is that working out to change not saying is that working out to change not saying is that working out to change your appearance has zero value. That's a your appearance has zero value. That's a your appearance has zero value. That's a real value obviously. Like if you're real value obviously. Like if you're real value obviously. Like if you're fit, you look fit. Uh and looking fit uh fit, you look fit. Uh and looking fit uh fit, you look fit. Uh and looking fit uh there's some value to that, but it's not there's some value to that, but it's not there's some value to that, but it's not the only value. It's actually one small the only value. It's actually one small the only value. It's actually one small piece of the value that uh fitness piece of the value that uh fitness piece of the value that uh fitness brings you. And as you do it, the longer brings you. And as you do it, the longer brings you. And as you do it, the longer you do it, the more you realize it's you do it, the more you realize it's you do it, the more you realize it's actually a smaller value than many other actually a smaller value than many other actually a smaller value than many other values. And uh the example I'll use is values. And uh the example I'll use is values. And uh the example I'll use is like like let's say that you are like like let's say that you are like like let's say that you are consistent in your 20s and 30s and 40s consistent in your 20s and 30s and 40s consistent in your 20s and 30s and 40s and 50s. At some point, how you look is and 50s. At some point, how you look is and 50s. At some point, how you look is going to not be as good as it used to going to not be as good as it used to going to not be as good as it used to be. I don't care how fit you are. be. I don't care how fit you are. be. I don't care how fit you are. >> If you're super fit and 65, you're not >> If you're super fit and 65, you're not >> If you're super fit and 65, you're not going to look as good as you did when going to look as good as you did when going to look as good as you did when you were super fit and 35. you were super fit and 35. you were super fit and 35. >> So, at some point, this is going you're >> So, at some point, this is going you're >> So, at some point, this is going you're going to have to face this reality of going to have to face this reality of going to have to face this reality of uhoh, how do I how do I stop what's uhoh, how do I how do I stop what's uhoh, how do I how do I stop what's happening here? Uh no matter what I do happening here? Uh no matter what I do happening here? Uh no matter what I do with my fitness, um I'm looking older. with my fitness, um I'm looking older. with my fitness, um I'm looking older. Um and uh boy, that can that go uh Um and uh boy, that can that go uh Um and uh boy, that can that go uh sideways. So, you have to develop a sideways. So, you have to develop a sideways. So, you have to develop a complete relationship with fitness for complete relationship with fitness for complete relationship with fitness for this to be something that will take you this to be something that will take you this to be something that will take you through all the difficult times. All the through all the difficult times. All the through all the difficult times. All the times you feel sick, all the times you times you feel sick, all the times you times you feel sick, all the times you may be injured, maybe the times you may be injured, maybe the times you may be injured, maybe the times you can't work out hard because you've got a can't work out hard because you've got a can't work out hard because you've got a new baby or because you're stressed uh new baby or because you're stressed uh new baby or because you're stressed uh or you can't be as consistent um because or you can't be as consistent um because or you can't be as consistent um because of life uh things that are going on. of life uh things that are going on. of life uh things that are going on. What's going to take you through those What's going to take you through those What's going to take you through those times is not what the mirror says. Uh times is not what the mirror says. Uh times is not what the mirror says. Uh it's a complete picture of all of the it's a complete picture of all of the it's a complete picture of all of the values that fitness brings you. And good values that fitness brings you. And good values that fitness brings you. And good trainers know this. And this is what I trainers know this. And this is what I trainers know this. And this is what I would focus on with my clients. I would focus on with my clients. I would focus on with my clients. I actually had to point these things out actually had to point these things out actually had to point these things out to my clients. Yeah. to my clients. Yeah. to my clients. Yeah. >> Because if I didn't, it's like they >> Because if I didn't, it's like they >> Because if I didn't, it's like they totally missed them. totally missed them. totally missed them. >> Yeah. And I know it's extra hard too >> Yeah. And I know it's extra hard too >> Yeah. And I know it's extra hard too with younger clients uh to really with younger clients uh to really with younger clients uh to really express express express um you know, thinking about all these um you know, thinking about all these um you know, thinking about all these other metrics to focus on uh because other metrics to focus on uh because other metrics to focus on uh because they could kind of just rebound and they they could kind of just rebound and they they could kind of just rebound and they can get away with a lot more in terms of can get away with a lot more in terms of can get away with a lot more in terms of like sleep and uh energy uh and less like sleep and uh energy uh and less like sleep and uh energy uh and less responsibilities. But uh you know and I responsibilities. But uh you know and I responsibilities. But uh you know and I could I could pretty much communicate could I could pretty much communicate could I could pretty much communicate this to older clients like eventually this to older clients like eventually this to older clients like eventually they'd come in still very very focused they'd come in still very very focused they'd come in still very very focused on how they look and that's what that on how they look and that's what that on how they look and that's what that got them there. And so that's pretty got them there. And so that's pretty got them there. And so that's pretty common for anybody coming into the gym. common for anybody coming into the gym. common for anybody coming into the gym. That's like the number one selling point That's like the number one selling point That's like the number one selling point is really to like build like change and is really to like build like change and is really to like build like change and improve your overall aesthetic. But, uh, improve your overall aesthetic. But, uh, improve your overall aesthetic. But, uh, to get to that place where you start to get to that place where you start to get to that place where you start paying attention to all these other, um, paying attention to all these other, um, paying attention to all these other, um, you know, benefits that you're going to you know, benefits that you're going to you know, benefits that you're going to receive from going through the process, receive from going through the process, receive from going through the process, like you just have to you just have to like you just have to you just have to like you just have to you just have to get in and and experience it yourself. get in and and experience it yourself. get in and and experience it yourself. And then, uh, it's great to have a And then, uh, it's great to have a And then, uh, it's great to have a trainer to actually point these out cuz trainer to actually point these out cuz trainer to actually point these out cuz people are pretty oblivious. Oh, I think people are pretty oblivious. Oh, I think people are pretty oblivious. Oh, I think it's almost it's almost necessary it's almost it's almost necessary it's almost it's almost necessary because most of these people don't have because most of these people don't have because most of these people don't have a a a relationship yet to your point of a a a relationship yet to your point of a a a relationship yet to your point of like relation like a healthy like relation like a healthy like relation like a healthy relationship with all these other relationship with all these other relationship with all these other metrics that a trainer helps you connect metrics that a trainer helps you connect metrics that a trainer helps you connect the dots to. I mean, I'd say half of my the dots to. I mean, I'd say half of my the dots to. I mean, I'd say half of my conversation with all clients daily was conversation with all clients daily was conversation with all clients daily was >> this was because they're they sign up to >> this was because they're they sign up to >> this was because they're they sign up to your point to lose 30 lbs or to look a your point to lose 30 lbs or to look a your point to lose 30 lbs or to look a certain way. That's everybody, certain way. That's everybody, certain way. That's everybody, >> right? That's that's everybody. and and >> right? That's that's everybody. and and >> right? That's that's everybody. and and and of course you want to let them know and of course you want to let them know and of course you want to let them know that that we'll get there and and and that that we'll get there and and and that that we'll get there and and and you know you you never have a client if you know you you never have a client if you know you you never have a client if you try to tell them you're that's not you try to tell them you're that's not you try to tell them you're that's not the focus and like you know so you agree the focus and like you know so you agree the focus and like you know so you agree to that like yeah we'll we'll definitely to that like yeah we'll we'll definitely to that like yeah we'll we'll definitely get you to lose 30 lbs in shape and then get you to lose 30 lbs in shape and then get you to lose 30 lbs in shape and then from that point it was my job to help from that point it was my job to help from that point it was my job to help them connect the dots to all the other them connect the dots to all the other them connect the dots to all the other things but it wasn't like a one-time things but it wasn't like a one-time things but it wasn't like a one-time conversation it was every single time we conversation it was every single time we conversation it was every single time we met because they're still fixated on the met because they're still fixated on the met because they're still fixated on the 30 pounds or the how they look in the 30 pounds or the how they look in the 30 pounds or the how they look in the mirror and you're going, "Well, how did mirror and you're going, "Well, how did mirror and you're going, "Well, how did you sleep yesterday?" And, you know, you sleep yesterday?" And, you know, you sleep yesterday?" And, you know, "How has your energy been at work this "How has your energy been at work this "How has your energy been at work this week?" And how's your mood been? And week?" And how's your mood been? And week?" And how's your mood been? And how's the libido doing? And like, so how's the libido doing? And like, so how's the libido doing? And like, so you're having to like, you're having to like, you're having to like, >> you know, constantly >> you know, constantly >> you know, constantly connect those dots for them. And it connect those dots for them. And it connect those dots for them. And it wasn't again, it wasn't like just one wasn't again, it wasn't like just one wasn't again, it wasn't like just one time I'd say, and they'd be like, "Oh, time I'd say, and they'd be like, "Oh, time I'd say, and they'd be like, "Oh, yeah, you know, I feel pretty good." And yeah, you know, I feel pretty good." And yeah, you know, I feel pretty good." And then it's like, "Oh, I never had to then it's like, "Oh, I never had to then it's like, "Oh, I never had to bring it up again." It was like I had to bring it up again." It was like I had to bring it up again." It was like I had to every time, you know, oh, the scale every time, you know, oh, the scale every time, you know, oh, the scale didn't move. Yeah, but what about this? didn't move. Yeah, but what about this? didn't move. Yeah, but what about this? How's How's How's >> your strength? What about your pain >> your strength? What about your pain >> your strength? What about your pain decreasing? All these types of There's decreasing? All these types of There's decreasing? All these types of There's so many things, too. I think people are so many things, too. I think people are so many things, too. I think people are just like waiting for that moment that just like waiting for that moment that just like waiting for that moment that they have a little bit less body fat. they have a little bit less body fat. they have a little bit less body fat. >> Yeah, it's crazy because um I've you >> Yeah, it's crazy because um I've you >> Yeah, it's crazy because um I've you I've brought this up at least a dozen I've brought this up at least a dozen I've brought this up at least a dozen time on the podcast. But by the way, time on the podcast. But by the way, time on the podcast. But by the way, what we're talking about is a feature of what we're talking about is a feature of what we're talking about is a feature of human psychology. It's very interesting. human psychology. It's very interesting. human psychology. It's very interesting. It's that what you don't focus on, you It's that what you don't focus on, you It's that what you don't focus on, you actually don't see or notice. actually don't see or notice. actually don't see or notice. >> There's this there's this video and >> There's this there's this video and >> There's this there's this video and maybe my editors can put it up and I'm maybe my editors can put it up and I'm maybe my editors can put it up and I'm going to give it away so it's not going going to give it away so it's not going going to give it away so it's not going to work on you, but it's to work on you, but it's to work on you, but it's >> the gorilla. Yeah, they've this is >> the gorilla. Yeah, they've this is >> the gorilla. Yeah, they've this is something that uh you if you've taken something that uh you if you've taken something that uh you if you've taken any psychology class over the last 40 any psychology class over the last 40 any psychology class over the last 40 years, you've seen this video and it's years, you've seen this video and it's years, you've seen this video and it's literally there's people passing a literally there's people passing a literally there's people passing a basketball back and forth. I think basketball back and forth. I think basketball back and forth. I think there's like 12 people and the professor there's like 12 people and the professor there's like 12 people and the professor in the beginning of the video says count in the beginning of the video says count in the beginning of the video says count how many times the ball is getting how many times the ball is getting how many times the ball is getting passed back and forth. And so you count passed back and forth. And so you count passed back and forth. And so you count that you keep going 1 2 3 four and he that you keep going 1 2 3 four and he that you keep going 1 2 3 four and he says at the end of it he goes I'm gonna says at the end of it he goes I'm gonna says at the end of it he goes I'm gonna ask you how many times the ball was ask you how many times the ball was ask you how many times the ball was passed. So he comes out at the end and passed. So he comes out at the end and passed. So he comes out at the end and he doesn't ask you that question. he doesn't ask you that question. he doesn't ask you that question. Instead he says did you notice the Instead he says did you notice the Instead he says did you notice the gorilla? And you're like what the heck gorilla? And you're like what the heck gorilla? And you're like what the heck are you talking about? They rewind the are you talking about? They rewind the are you talking about? They rewind the video and a guy in a gorilla suit walks video and a guy in a gorilla suit walks video and a guy in a gorilla suit walks through the group passing the basketball through the group passing the basketball through the group passing the basketball >> like stops and then keeps walking. >> like stops and then keeps walking. >> like stops and then keeps walking. >> Yeah. And now a majority of people, I >> Yeah. And now a majority of people, I >> Yeah. And now a majority of people, I think it's like 80% of people don't think it's like 80% of people don't think it's like 80% of people don't notice a dude in a gorilla suit notice a dude in a gorilla suit notice a dude in a gorilla suit >> walking through because that's not what >> walking through because that's not what >> walking through because that's not what you're focusing on. So if you're you're focusing on. So if you're you're focusing on. So if you're focusing on appearance, you actually focusing on appearance, you actually focusing on appearance, you actually don't notice don't notice don't notice >> all these other incredible benefits. I >> all these other incredible benefits. I >> all these other incredible benefits. I got on a call with one of our uh coaches got on a call with one of our uh coaches got on a call with one of our uh coaches uh and their client relatively recently, uh and their client relatively recently, uh and their client relatively recently, which I love doing, by the I love uh which I love doing, by the I love uh which I love doing, by the I love uh hopping on these calls. We have trainers hopping on these calls. We have trainers hopping on these calls. We have trainers that work with clients now. And I I that work with clients now. And I I that work with clients now. And I I forget how much I miss uh working with forget how much I miss uh working with forget how much I miss uh working with people. But I get on this call because people. But I get on this call because people. But I get on this call because this woman had hired one of our trainers this woman had hired one of our trainers this woman had hired one of our trainers for a year. Uh and I would say our for a year. Uh and I would say our for a year. Uh and I would say our average client hires our trainers for 9 average client hires our trainers for 9 average client hires our trainers for 9 months to a year, I would say. So I get months to a year, I would say. So I get months to a year, I would say. So I get on there and she'd been doing this for a on there and she'd been doing this for a on there and she'd been doing this for a year and she had all these fitness goals year and she had all these fitness goals year and she had all these fitness goals and she was frustrated because she and she was frustrated because she and she was frustrated because she hadn't really hit uh these fitness goals hadn't really hit uh these fitness goals hadn't really hit uh these fitness goals that she had. So, I get on the call and that she had. So, I get on the call and that she had. So, I get on the call and we start talking and it turns out uh we start talking and it turns out uh we start talking and it turns out uh over the last year she had a surgery um over the last year she had a surgery um over the last year she had a surgery um on her upper uh midback area. She's had on her upper uh midback area. She's had on her upper uh midback area. She's had some very stressful life things life some very stressful life things life some very stressful life things life things that had happened during that things that had happened during that things that had happened during that period of time. And so, we're talking period of time. And so, we're talking period of time. And so, we're talking about all these difficult challenges about all these difficult challenges about all these difficult challenges that she's gone through over the last that she's gone through over the last that she's gone through over the last year. And then we talk about what uh it year. And then we talk about what uh it year. And then we talk about what uh it used to look like for her before she used to look like for her before she used to look like for her before she worked with a coach. And she's like, "Oh worked with a coach. And she's like, "Oh worked with a coach. And she's like, "Oh my god, every holiday season I would my god, every holiday season I would my god, every holiday season I would gain like 10 pounds. And every holiday gain like 10 pounds. And every holiday gain like 10 pounds. And every holiday season, I would just be super seditary season, I would just be super seditary season, I would just be super seditary and this and that. So, as we're talking and this and that. So, as we're talking and this and that. So, as we're talking and I know I know as a coach uh what I and I know I know as a coach uh what I and I know I know as a coach uh what I want to say, but I'm trying to help her want to say, but I'm trying to help her want to say, but I'm trying to help her kind of realize this, kind of realize this, kind of realize this, >> help her come to the conclusion herself. >> help her come to the conclusion herself. >> help her come to the conclusion herself. >> Yeah. And so, it turned out it's like, >> Yeah. And so, it turned out it's like, >> Yeah. And so, it turned out it's like, how do you think you would have done how do you think you would have done how do you think you would have done this year had you not worked with a this year had you not worked with a this year had you not worked with a coach? Yeah. coach? Yeah. coach? Yeah. >> And her face was like, "Oh my god, like >> And her face was like, "Oh my god, like >> And her face was like, "Oh my god, like this would have been horrible this would have been horrible this would have been horrible >> had I had the surgery, gone through >> had I had the surgery, gone through >> had I had the surgery, gone through those stressful things without working those stressful things without working those stressful things without working with a coach. Oh man, this would have with a coach. Oh man, this would have with a coach. Oh man, this would have been horrible." So I said sometimes been horrible." So I said sometimes been horrible." So I said sometimes progress looks like not going backwards progress looks like not going backwards progress looks like not going backwards or or or >> progress looks like man I'm going to the >> progress looks like man I'm going to the >> progress looks like man I'm going to the gym because uh this is just alleviating gym because uh this is just alleviating gym because uh this is just alleviating stress. stress. stress. >> I'm not yeah I'm not getting muscle >> I'm not yeah I'm not getting muscle >> I'm not yeah I'm not getting muscle right now because I'm going through this right now because I'm going through this right now because I'm going through this terrible thing but it does make me feel terrible thing but it does make me feel terrible thing but it does make me feel better. better. better. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And that's what's and that's what this >> And that's what's and that's what this >> And that's what's and that's what this season is about with fitness. And when season is about with fitness. And when season is about with fitness. And when you start to view fitness in this more you start to view fitness in this more you start to view fitness in this more complete way you won't stop. you won't complete way you won't stop. you won't complete way you won't stop. you won't stop because uh whatever happens in your stop because uh whatever happens in your stop because uh whatever happens in your life, it makes things better versus uh life, it makes things better versus uh life, it makes things better versus uh I'm always trying to change uh how I I'm always trying to change uh how I I'm always trying to change uh how I look. I'm always trying to improve. By look. I'm always trying to improve. By look. I'm always trying to improve. By the way, if if you're successful here, the way, if if you're successful here, the way, if if you're successful here, I'll give you the flip side of this I'll give you the flip side of this I'll give you the flip side of this coin. If you're successful with hitting coin. If you're successful with hitting coin. If you're successful with hitting your fitness goals, then what? Because your fitness goals, then what? Because your fitness goals, then what? Because this is the other side of that coin. this is the other side of that coin. this is the other side of that coin. Sometimes, not often, but sometimes Sometimes, not often, but sometimes Sometimes, not often, but sometimes people are so disciplined and so like, people are so disciplined and so like, people are so disciplined and so like, "No, I'm losing 30 pound. I'm gonna get "No, I'm losing 30 pound. I'm gonna get "No, I'm losing 30 pound. I'm gonna get shredded. I'm gonna look amazing." then shredded. I'm gonna look amazing." then shredded. I'm gonna look amazing." then they actually accomplish it and then they actually accomplish it and then they actually accomplish it and then they're like, "Uh, I don't have the they're like, "Uh, I don't have the they're like, "Uh, I don't have the motivation like I'm here. What do I do motivation like I'm here. What do I do motivation like I'm here. What do I do now?" now?" now?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um and uh and that's because you put um >> Um and uh and that's because you put um >> Um and uh and that's because you put um all your eggs in that one basket and all your eggs in that one basket and all your eggs in that one basket and you're not you're not you're not >> you're not really developing this real >> you're not really developing this real >> you're not really developing this real understanding of what it's doing for understanding of what it's doing for understanding of what it's doing for you. you. you. >> Well, yeah. And you you don't real >> Well, yeah. And you you don't real >> Well, yeah. And you you don't real you're so fixated on that and then that you're so fixated on that and then that you're so fixated on that and then that doesn't fulfill this hole that you have doesn't fulfill this hole that you have doesn't fulfill this hole that you have and you never made the you never gave and you never made the you never gave and you never made the you never gave yourself the opportunity to connect the yourself the opportunity to connect the yourself the opportunity to connect the dots to all the other things. So, you dots to all the other things. So, you dots to all the other things. So, you know what what is this all for? know what what is this all for? know what what is this all for? >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I sacrificed this whole sacrificed this >> I sacrificed this whole sacrificed this >> I sacrificed this whole sacrificed this whole year to look like this to be this whole year to look like this to be this whole year to look like this to be this >> and it's not as it's not as good as I >> and it's not as it's not as good as I >> and it's not as it's not as good as I thought it would be and I feel like I thought it would be and I feel like I thought it would be and I feel like I missed out on all these things. And so missed out on all these things. And so missed out on all these things. And so you're like f this. And I mean you've you're like f this. And I mean you've you're like f this. And I mean you've seen I've seen a lot of people that's seen I've seen a lot of people that's seen I've seen a lot of people that's happened to where they they end up going happened to where they they end up going happened to where they they end up going they go back because they're just like they go back because they're just like they go back because they're just like why did I do all that if this wasn't as why did I do all that if this wasn't as why did I do all that if this wasn't as rewarding as I thought it was going to rewarding as I thought it was going to rewarding as I thought it was going to be. be. be. >> Totally. And then what happens by the >> Totally. And then what happens by the >> Totally. And then what happens by the way is uh when you do this the right way is uh when you do this the right way is uh when you do this the right way. And so what what we're saying way. And so what what we're saying way. And so what what we're saying essentially and I'll take a step back is essentially and I'll take a step back is essentially and I'll take a step back is this should be a very uh high focus for this should be a very uh high focus for this should be a very uh high focus for you if this is something you want to be you if this is something you want to be you if this is something you want to be able to do forever. If you want to have able to do forever. If you want to have able to do forever. If you want to have a relationship with fitness where you're a relationship with fitness where you're a relationship with fitness where you're just a person that works out just a person that works out just a person that works out >> and you're just a person that uh values >> and you're just a person that uh values >> and you're just a person that uh values eating healthy eating healthy eating healthy >> uh in a real way, right? Not an >> uh in a real way, right? Not an >> uh in a real way, right? Not an obsessive way, but in a real way. This obsessive way, but in a real way. This obsessive way, but in a real way. This what we're saying should be very high what we're saying should be very high what we're saying should be very high priority because this is how you do it. priority because this is how you do it. priority because this is how you do it. The way you don't do it is by looking at The way you don't do it is by looking at The way you don't do it is by looking at the scale, looking at the mirror, um the scale, looking at the mirror, um the scale, looking at the mirror, um looking at the metrics uh like macros looking at the metrics uh like macros looking at the metrics uh like macros and calories and how much weight is on and calories and how much weight is on and calories and how much weight is on the bar and that's all you focus on. Uh the bar and that's all you focus on. Uh the bar and that's all you focus on. Uh that's not uh how you do it. I was that's not uh how you do it. I was that's not uh how you do it. I was training a friend of mine over the training a friend of mine over the training a friend of mine over the weekend uh and he's a very successful, weekend uh and he's a very successful, weekend uh and he's a very successful, hardworking guy. He's a doctor, ER hardworking guy. He's a doctor, ER hardworking guy. He's a doctor, ER doctor, and his approach to fitness uh doctor, and his approach to fitness uh doctor, and his approach to fitness uh has always been this kind of like I go I has always been this kind of like I go I has always been this kind of like I go I go real hard, right? You know, typical go real hard, right? You know, typical go real hard, right? You know, typical like high achiever type thing. And so like high achiever type thing. And so like high achiever type thing. And so we're working out and he's like, "I we're working out and he's like, "I we're working out and he's like, "I didn't realize you could just feel good didn't realize you could just feel good didn't realize you could just feel good after working out." And I didn't realize after working out." And I didn't realize after working out." And I didn't realize like I didn't have to like beat the crap like I didn't have to like beat the crap like I didn't have to like beat the crap out of myself. And I'm pointing things out of myself. And I'm pointing things out of myself. And I'm pointing things out to him because I've only trained him out to him because I've only trained him out to him because I've only trained him now three times. And you know, we've now three times. And you know, we've now three times. And you know, we've we've added weight to the bar each time we've added weight to the bar each time we've added weight to the bar each time cuz that's what happens when you first cuz that's what happens when you first cuz that's what happens when you first start working out. And he but he start working out. And he but he start working out. And he but he wouldn't have picked up on it by the wouldn't have picked up on it by the wouldn't have picked up on it by the way. But I'm showing him like, you know, way. But I'm showing him like, you know, way. But I'm showing him like, you know, you did five reps last week. Today you you did five reps last week. Today you you did five reps last week. Today you just did 10 reps. He's like, "Oh my god, just did 10 reps. He's like, "Oh my god, just did 10 reps. He's like, "Oh my god, I'm not even getting sore. Like this is I'm not even getting sore. Like this is I'm not even getting sore. Like this is >> super wild." and he came to one of his >> super wild." and he came to one of his >> super wild." and he came to one of his workouts uh because he's a doctor so workouts uh because he's a doctor so workouts uh because he's a doctor so he'll lose sleep sometimes because of he'll lose sleep sometimes because of he'll lose sleep sometimes because of work and stuff. He came in, he was super work and stuff. He came in, he was super work and stuff. He came in, he was super tired and uh the workout looked very tired and uh the workout looked very tired and uh the workout looked very different. It was like uh you know different. It was like uh you know different. It was like uh you know correctional stuff. We're doing some correctional stuff. We're doing some correctional stuff. We're doing some belly breathing uh some work on the TVA. belly breathing uh some work on the TVA. belly breathing uh some work on the TVA. We're doing you know quadriped. These We're doing you know quadriped. These We're doing you know quadriped. These are all like correctional exercise type are all like correctional exercise type are all like correctional exercise type stuff. And uh you know I'm like, "How do stuff. And uh you know I'm like, "How do stuff. And uh you know I'm like, "How do you feel? How do you feel?" He's like, you feel? How do you feel?" He's like, you feel? How do you feel?" He's like, "Man, I feel really good." And I'm not "Man, I feel really good." And I'm not "Man, I feel really good." And I'm not like killing myself. Uh and and I'm like killing myself. Uh and and I'm like killing myself. Uh and and I'm explaining this to him. I'm like, explaining this to him. I'm like, explaining this to him. I'm like, "Listen, I'm I'm I'm going to get this "Listen, I'm I'm I'm going to get this "Listen, I'm I'm I'm going to get this for you. I'm going to help you figure for you. I'm going to help you figure for you. I'm going to help you figure out or understand like this uh is out or understand like this uh is out or understand like this uh is something that you could do forever only something that you could do forever only something that you could do forever only if you understand how to use it properly if you understand how to use it properly if you understand how to use it properly and what it does for you. If you don't and what it does for you. If you don't and what it does for you. If you don't do that, you're always going to do that, you're always going to do that, you're always going to struggle." struggle." struggle." >> Well, I think that's a I think that's a >> Well, I think that's a I think that's a >> Well, I think that's a I think that's a sign that you've started to because you sign that you've started to because you sign that you've started to because you might someone might be listening might someone might be listening might someone might be listening wondering like, you know, have I wondering like, you know, have I wondering like, you know, have I connected those dots or I your workouts connected those dots or I your workouts connected those dots or I your workouts will start to shape and look different. will start to shape and look different. will start to shape and look different. >> Totally. I mean it it's uh and I'm sure >> Totally. I mean it it's uh and I'm sure >> Totally. I mean it it's uh and I'm sure the audience has heard me say this many the audience has heard me say this many the audience has heard me say this many times like that it took me a long time times like that it took me a long time times like that it took me a long time to get from this like on or off to get from this like on or off to get from this like on or off >> either I'm like my workouts like >> either I'm like my workouts like >> either I'm like my workouts like >> otherwise it's a waste of time. >> otherwise it's a waste of time. >> otherwise it's a waste of time. >> Yeah. Otherwise, it was a waste of time. >> Yeah. Otherwise, it was a waste of time. >> Yeah. Otherwise, it was a waste of time. We're like simply and I and I say that We're like simply and I and I say that We're like simply and I and I say that one of the, you know, big, you know, one of the, you know, big, you know, one of the, you know, big, you know, pivotal moments in my personal journey pivotal moments in my personal journey pivotal moments in my personal journey was giving myself the permission to go was giving myself the permission to go was giving myself the permission to go to the gym and just do squats, you know, to the gym and just do squats, you know, to the gym and just do squats, you know, three sets or four sets of squats and three sets or four sets of squats and three sets or four sets of squats and then be done. Or it's just an hour walk, then be done. Or it's just an hour walk, then be done. Or it's just an hour walk, you know, or it's just a mobility. It's you know, or it's just a mobility. It's you know, or it's just a mobility. It's a 30 minute mobility session. Like it no a 30 minute mobility session. Like it no a 30 minute mobility session. Like it no longer became this like either I'm longer became this like either I'm longer became this like either I'm heading towards a goal and I'm you know heading towards a goal and I'm you know heading towards a goal and I'm you know sore and pushing myself super hard as a sore and pushing myself super hard as a sore and pushing myself super hard as a workout or I'm not. It was like oh you workout or I'm not. It was like oh you workout or I'm not. It was like oh you know what I've had two bad nights of know what I've had two bad nights of know what I've had two bad nights of sleep. I'm going to go in and I'm gonna sleep. I'm going to go in and I'm gonna sleep. I'm going to go in and I'm gonna do a machine workout and you know move do a machine workout and you know move do a machine workout and you know move at 50 60% intensity you know and do that at 50 60% intensity you know and do that at 50 60% intensity you know and do that or I'm going to do a 30 minute walk and or I'm going to do a 30 minute walk and or I'm going to do a 30 minute walk and then maybe I'll do a couple mobility then maybe I'll do a couple mobility then maybe I'll do a couple mobility drills like you know it once it's drills like you know it once it's drills like you know it once it's switched huge difference and I so I switched huge difference and I so I switched huge difference and I so I think when you when you can when you can think when you when you can when you can think when you when you can when you can switch the mindset away from being so switch the mindset away from being so switch the mindset away from being so driven and focused by the look and then driven and focused by the look and then driven and focused by the look and then becomes this thing that supports so many becomes this thing that supports so many becomes this thing that supports so many other things in your life you quickly other things in your life you quickly other things in your life you quickly can go oh wow like can go oh wow like can go oh wow like >> it's just it should shape and look >> it's just it should shape and look >> it's just it should shape and look different different different >> you know what the irony of that is that >> you know what the irony of that is that >> you know what the irony of that is that you're saying too Adam is that you'll you're saying too Adam is that you'll you're saying too Adam is that you'll end up looking better. end up looking better. end up looking better. >> No. Well, that's Yeah, that's the thing. >> No. Well, that's Yeah, that's the thing. >> No. Well, that's Yeah, that's the thing. The best part about this even better. The best part about this even better. The best part about this even better. Oh, the best part about this is that Oh, the best part about this is that Oh, the best part about this is that when I look back, say the last, say, you when I look back, say the last, say, you when I look back, say the last, say, you know, five to six years, know, five to six years, know, five to six years, >> um, you know, my worst shape in those >> um, you know, my worst shape in those >> um, you know, my worst shape in those five, six years is still better than, five, six years is still better than, five, six years is still better than, you know, what was like peak shape in my you know, what was like peak shape in my you know, what was like peak shape in my mid20s trying to kill myself, you know, mid20s trying to kill myself, you know, mid20s trying to kill myself, you know, >> and just more consistent. Yeah, I'm I'm >> and just more consistent. Yeah, I'm I'm >> and just more consistent. Yeah, I'm I'm consistent. I'm consistently doing consistent. I'm consistently doing consistent. I'm consistently doing something. You know what I'm saying? And something. You know what I'm saying? And something. You know what I'm saying? And like even though my my you'll hear me like even though my my you'll hear me like even though my my you'll hear me talk on the show of my training volume talk on the show of my training volume talk on the show of my training volume picking up or down or I'm kind of in on picking up or down or I'm kind of in on picking up or down or I'm kind of in on it getting after like I'm never it getting after like I'm never it getting after like I'm never completely off of it. I'm doing completely off of it. I'm doing completely off of it. I'm doing something. You know what I'm saying? I'm something. You know what I'm saying? I'm something. You know what I'm saying? I'm walking. I'm doing something to, you walking. I'm doing something to, you walking. I'm doing something to, you know, or I'm making good nutritional know, or I'm making good nutritional know, or I'm making good nutritional choices because I know that my training choices because I know that my training choices because I know that my training volume is down. And so yeah, your volume is down. And so yeah, your volume is down. And so yeah, your relationship with it just looks relationship with it just looks relationship with it just looks completely different if you've learned completely different if you've learned completely different if you've learned to connect those dots. I think that's to connect those dots. I think that's to connect those dots. I think that's good. I think too another big step in good. I think too another big step in good. I think too another big step in the evolution of this whole process is the evolution of this whole process is the evolution of this whole process is like cuz you go through and you do to like cuz you go through and you do to like cuz you go through and you do to the tea like your workout like your the tea like your workout like your the tea like your workout like your planned workout I have if if you're one planned workout I have if if you're one planned workout I have if if you're one of those where you actually have a of those where you actually have a of those where you actually have a program and you're following it and it's program and you're following it and it's program and you're following it and it's like okay I have to get through it that like okay I have to get through it that like okay I have to get through it that mentality of having to get through the mentality of having to get through the mentality of having to get through the workout is something it's like that's workout is something it's like that's workout is something it's like that's like step one and then you you'll show like step one and then you you'll show like step one and then you you'll show up some days and you'll be like you know up some days and you'll be like you know up some days and you'll be like you know this is where I'm at. I'm overstressed. this is where I'm at. I'm overstressed. this is where I'm at. I'm overstressed. I'm under slept. Like I have all of I'm under slept. Like I have all of I'm under slept. Like I have all of these other factors going into this these other factors going into this these other factors going into this workout. And as I'm going in, I don't workout. And as I'm going in, I don't workout. And as I'm going in, I don't have the strength today. Like how do I have the strength today. Like how do I have the strength today. Like how do I tweak adjust like those tweaking and tweak adjust like those tweaking and tweak adjust like those tweaking and adjustments and and modifying uh to, you adjustments and and modifying uh to, you adjustments and and modifying uh to, you know, make it beneficial for you while know, make it beneficial for you while know, make it beneficial for you while you're there is is a whole another step you're there is is a whole another step you're there is is a whole another step which you know, you're going to learn which you know, you're going to learn which you know, you're going to learn that a lot from a trainer. You're going that a lot from a trainer. You're going that a lot from a trainer. You're going to learn that from experience. Uh and to learn that from experience. Uh and to learn that from experience. Uh and everybody has the ability to do that. everybody has the ability to do that. everybody has the ability to do that. And and what's cool is we've been able And and what's cool is we've been able And and what's cool is we've been able to kind of help progress that that to kind of help progress that that to kind of help progress that that process because we've now have options process because we've now have options process because we've now have options of like, oh, there's 15minute versions. of like, oh, there's 15minute versions. of like, oh, there's 15minute versions. There's, you know, these other uh uh There's, you know, these other uh uh There's, you know, these other uh uh things we're trying to introduce people things we're trying to introduce people things we're trying to introduce people to because that isn't like an overall to because that isn't like an overall to because that isn't like an overall thought people have going to the gym thought people have going to the gym thought people have going to the gym ever. ever. ever. >> Yeah. Don't do anything that makes you >> Yeah. Don't do anything that makes you >> Yeah. Don't do anything that makes you hate uh working out. That that's like hate uh working out. That that's like hate uh working out. That that's like that's such an important thing to that's such an important thing to that's such an important thing to understand. Like if you're going to the understand. Like if you're going to the understand. Like if you're going to the gym and you're like, "No, I'm going to gym and you're like, "No, I'm going to gym and you're like, "No, I'm going to do this thing. Oh, I totally hate and do this thing. Oh, I totally hate and do this thing. Oh, I totally hate and you're strengthening that in you. You're you're strengthening that in you. You're you're strengthening that in you. You're not going to do it. You're going to not going to do it. You're going to not going to do it. You're going to stop. So, don't do anything like that. stop. So, don't do anything like that. stop. So, don't do anything like that. It's funny, too. I was thinking about uh It's funny, too. I was thinking about uh It's funny, too. I was thinking about uh when I started to first figure this out when I started to first figure this out when I started to first figure this out cuz while you were talking, I was like, cuz while you were talking, I was like, cuz while you were talking, I was like, when did I start piecing this together? when did I start piecing this together? when did I start piecing this together? I remember when I started piecing this I remember when I started piecing this I remember when I started piecing this together because um I remember feeling a together because um I remember feeling a together because um I remember feeling a little conflicted at first. So, when I little conflicted at first. So, when I little conflicted at first. So, when I started thinking about this and I was started thinking about this and I was started thinking about this and I was like, okay, um why am I having a like, okay, um why am I having a like, okay, um why am I having a challenge for the last eight years? challenge for the last eight years? challenge for the last eight years? Why is it that uh I can't figure out how Why is it that uh I can't figure out how Why is it that uh I can't figure out how to get people to do this for the rest of to get people to do this for the rest of to get people to do this for the rest of their life? Why is it that my fail rate their life? Why is it that my fail rate their life? Why is it that my fail rate is not is is terrible? Like, yeah, is not is is terrible? Like, yeah, is not is is terrible? Like, yeah, people get in shape with me, but then people get in shape with me, but then people get in shape with me, but then they stop. they stop. they stop. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Especially if they don't work with me >> Especially if they don't work with me >> Especially if they don't work with me anymore, then they totally stop. If I'm anymore, then they totally stop. If I'm anymore, then they totally stop. If I'm really trying to help these people, really trying to help these people, really trying to help these people, what's going on? And I remember what's going on? And I remember what's going on? And I remember initially it was like, ah, they lack initially it was like, ah, they lack initially it was like, ah, they lack discipline. They just need more discipline. They just need more discipline. They just need more discipline. But I'm like, wait a minute. discipline. But I'm like, wait a minute. discipline. But I'm like, wait a minute. I'm training executives. I'm training I'm training executives. I'm training I'm training executives. I'm training doctors. I'm training really successful, doctors. I'm training really successful, doctors. I'm training really successful, disciplined people. maybe it's not them. disciplined people. maybe it's not them. disciplined people. maybe it's not them. Maybe I'm not a good coach. Maybe I had Maybe I'm not a good coach. Maybe I had Maybe I'm not a good coach. Maybe I had to figure out the way that that I'm to figure out the way that that I'm to figure out the way that that I'm trying to guide these people. So, I trying to guide these people. So, I trying to guide these people. So, I remember when I first started piecing remember when I first started piecing remember when I first started piecing this together. this together. this together. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh, you know, I'll get a client that >> Uh, you know, I'll get a client that >> Uh, you know, I'll get a client that would come in would come in would come in >> and they're just tired and oh man, I had >> and they're just tired and oh man, I had >> and they're just tired and oh man, I had a rough night and whatever. And I'm a rough night and whatever. And I'm a rough night and whatever. And I'm like, this was like I felt like I was like, this was like I felt like I was like, this was like I felt like I was going off on a like I was walking out on going off on a like I was walking out on going off on a like I was walking out on a branch and I was like, you know what? a branch and I was like, you know what? a branch and I was like, you know what? Do you want to let's just go for a walk. Do you want to let's just go for a walk. Do you want to let's just go for a walk. And they're like, okay. And we go on a And they're like, okay. And we go on a And they're like, okay. And we go on a walk and in my mind I'm thinking like walk and in my mind I'm thinking like walk and in my mind I'm thinking like this person's going to think they're this person's going to think they're this person's going to think they're wasting their money. They're going to be wasting their money. They're going to be wasting their money. They're going to be like, "Why did I hire this guy just to like, "Why did I hire this guy just to like, "Why did I hire this guy just to go on a walk? Why did I whatever?" And go on a walk? Why did I whatever?" And go on a walk? Why did I whatever?" And then, you know, you know, I saw another then, you know, you know, I saw another then, you know, you know, I saw another client, you know, a few days later or client, you know, a few days later or client, you know, a few days later or something, you know, and I'm like, "Hey, something, you know, and I'm like, "Hey, something, you know, and I'm like, "Hey, no, why don't we just stretch?" And no, why don't we just stretch?" And no, why don't we just stretch?" And again, I'm thinking in my head like, again, I'm thinking in my head like, again, I'm thinking in my head like, "Oh, man. This is a big experiment. "Oh, man. This is a big experiment. "Oh, man. This is a big experiment. Like, I hope these people don't feel Like, I hope these people don't feel Like, I hope these people don't feel like I'm w if they come to me and think like I'm w if they come to me and think like I'm w if they come to me and think they're wasting money, I'm going to give they're wasting money, I'm going to give they're wasting money, I'm going to give them a free session." That's what I kept them a free session." That's what I kept them a free session." That's what I kept telling myself. Next thing you know, I telling myself. Next thing you know, I telling myself. Next thing you know, I got clients calling me saying the got clients calling me saying the got clients calling me saying the craziest thing. I'd never heard this craziest thing. I'd never heard this craziest thing. I'd never heard this before as a trainer. They would call me before as a trainer. They would call me before as a trainer. They would call me and say, "Hey, I'm not feeling good and say, "Hey, I'm not feeling good and say, "Hey, I'm not feeling good today. Really tired. I know we're not today. Really tired. I know we're not today. Really tired. I know we're not scheduled to work out, but c can I come scheduled to work out, but c can I come scheduled to work out, but c can I come in? in? in? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> You don't feel great and you want to >> You don't feel great and you want to >> You don't feel great and you want to come in? come in? come in? >> That I'd never heard that before. And >> That I'd never heard that before. And >> That I'd never heard that before. And so, as I started doing this, the so, as I started doing this, the so, as I started doing this, the consistency went through the roof. consistency went through the roof. consistency went through the roof. >> And then I developed I helped develop >> And then I developed I helped develop >> And then I developed I helped develop people into uh lifelong fitness people. people into uh lifelong fitness people. people into uh lifelong fitness people. >> And it was incredible, but it was scary >> And it was incredible, but it was scary >> And it was incredible, but it was scary at first. Totally scary at first. at first. Totally scary at first. at first. Totally scary at first. >> I feel like we get a lot of flack. I I >> I feel like we get a lot of flack. I I >> I feel like we get a lot of flack. I I still I still see it about like uh oh, still I still see it about like uh oh, still I still see it about like uh oh, the M pub guys are on this like low the M pub guys are on this like low the M pub guys are on this like low volume kick and But I see the the volume kick and But I see the the volume kick and But I see the the comments and stuff and I'm like, you comments and stuff and I'm like, you comments and stuff and I'm like, you know, it's so funny. People hate us. know, it's so funny. People hate us. know, it's so funny. People hate us. >> Well, it's it's always the person who's >> Well, it's it's always the person who's >> Well, it's it's always the person who's still trapped in that that place of like still trapped in that that place of like still trapped in that that place of like >> I also not talking to you. If you're >> I also not talking to you. If you're >> I also not talking to you. If you're like so disciplined, you never miss a like so disciplined, you never miss a like so disciplined, you never miss a day. You're beast mode. Yeah. day. You're beast mode. Yeah. day. You're beast mode. Yeah. >> I'm not talking to you. >> I'm not talking to you. >> I'm not talking to you. >> What are you doing listening to? >> What are you doing listening to? >> What are you doing listening to? >> I don't care. Like listen. If you're a >> I don't care. Like listen. If you're a >> I don't care. Like listen. If you're a coach, listen to us cuz we're going to coach, listen to us cuz we're going to coach, listen to us cuz we're going to teach you how to coach other people. But teach you how to coach other people. But teach you how to coach other people. But I'm not trying to motivate you, bro. I'm not trying to motivate you, bro. I'm not trying to motivate you, bro. You're already going to the gym all the You're already going to the gym all the You're already going to the gym all the time. time. time. >> You're the 5%. Yeah. >> You're the 5%. Yeah. >> You're the 5%. Yeah. >> You're the 5% the other 95% of the >> You're the 5% the other 95% of the >> You're the 5% the other 95% of the population. population. population. >> I'm talking to everybody else that needs >> I'm talking to everybody else that needs >> I'm talking to everybody else that needs help. help. help. >> Legitimately can handle it, you know? >> Legitimately can handle it, you know? >> Legitimately can handle it, you know? Kudos to you. Kudos to you. Kudos to you. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> No, 100%. >> No, 100%. >> No, 100%. >> I would not sit you down and talk to you >> I would not sit you down and talk to you >> I would not sit you down and talk to you about you need to be more consistent. about you need to be more consistent. about you need to be more consistent. You're consistent, homie. See you later. You're consistent, homie. See you later. You're consistent, homie. See you later. You won. You know, I'm talking to You won. You know, I'm talking to You won. You know, I'm talking to everybody else right now. everybody else right now. everybody else right now. >> Do whatever you want. Increase your >> Do whatever you want. Increase your >> Do whatever you want. Increase your volume. I don't give a [ __ ] volume. I don't give a [ __ ] volume. I don't give a [ __ ] >> Dude, I got to tell you. >> Dude, I got to tell you. >> Dude, I got to tell you. >> I'll change the subject. I got to tell >> I'll change the subject. I got to tell >> I'll change the subject. I got to tell you guys, dude. My This is just for you guys, dude. My This is just for you guys, dude. My This is just for parents out there. My three-year-old, parents out there. My three-year-old, parents out there. My three-year-old, >> so you have the terrible twos, right? >> so you have the terrible twos, right? >> so you have the terrible twos, right? Threes are oftenimes worse if you talk Threes are oftenimes worse if you talk Threes are oftenimes worse if you talk to other parents. to other parents. to other parents. >> And my daughter went from hard to >> And my daughter went from hard to >> And my daughter went from hard to harder. Dude, my three-year-old. harder. Dude, my three-year-old. harder. Dude, my three-year-old. >> Yeah. Oh my god, dude. >> Yeah. Oh my god, dude. >> Yeah. Oh my god, dude. >> Hey, she's so clapping back. >> Hey, she's so clapping back. >> Hey, she's so clapping back. >> Poor Jessica can't get a break on the >> Poor Jessica can't get a break on the >> Poor Jessica can't get a break on the >> Aurelius was a handful. She's a handful. >> Aurelius was a handful. She's a handful. >> Aurelius was a handful. She's a handful. >> He was He was a normal like what you >> He was He was a normal like what you >> He was He was a normal like what you would expect from a kid handful. Okay. would expect from a kid handful. Okay. would expect from a kid handful. Okay. My daughter is so defiant and nothing My daughter is so defiant and nothing My daughter is so defiant and nothing works. Nothing. Bro, you'll I I'm works. Nothing. Bro, you'll I I'm works. Nothing. Bro, you'll I I'm telling you, I'll be like, "Okay, sit telling you, I'll be like, "Okay, sit telling you, I'll be like, "Okay, sit right here." and she'll get up and right here." and she'll get up and right here." and she'll get up and she'll start throwing things off the she'll start throwing things off the she'll start throwing things off the table and I'll be like and or or she'll table and I'll be like and or or she'll table and I'll be like and or or she'll and I'll be like and at some point you and I'll be like and at some point you and I'll be like and at some point you get mad so you threaten her. So I'm like get mad so you threaten her. So I'm like get mad so you threaten her. So I'm like I'm going to throw away your stuffy. I'm going to throw away your stuffy. I'm going to throw away your stuffy. She'll grab it and throw it away She'll grab it and throw it away She'll grab it and throw it away herself. herself. herself. >> Just do it, Dad. I'm going to do it. >> Just do it, Dad. I'm going to do it. >> Just do it, Dad. I'm going to do it. >> What is going on, dude? >> What is going on, dude? >> What is going on, dude? >> I got a call. I got a text from my from >> I got a call. I got a text from my from >> I got a call. I got a text from my from Jessica this morning and all it said was Jessica this morning and all it said was Jessica this morning and all it said was I all uppercase. I am furious. I'm like I all uppercase. I am furious. I'm like I all uppercase. I am furious. I'm like uhoh. was going like your daughter just uhoh. was going like your daughter just uhoh. was going like your daughter just threw I guess they were eating uh uh threw I guess they were eating uh uh threw I guess they were eating uh uh pasta with pesto and we'll put pecarino pasta with pesto and we'll put pecarino pasta with pesto and we'll put pecarino on it. She got mad for some reason took on it. She got mad for some reason took on it. She got mad for some reason took the whole thing. the whole thing. the whole thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And just threw it on the floor >> And just threw it on the floor >> And just threw it on the floor >> and she's like dude I'm going to lose my >> and she's like dude I'm going to lose my >> and she's like dude I'm going to lose my mind with this. mind with this. mind with this. >> I mean this my my buddy talks about this >> I mean this my my buddy talks about this >> I mean this my my buddy talks about this with my goddaughter just she's like this with my goddaughter just she's like this with my goddaughter just she's like this and he's like I he bro I I not want to and he's like I he bro I I not want to and he's like I he bro I I not want to be a parent that spanked. I have to be a parent that spanked. I have to be a parent that spanked. I have to spank. It's the only thing that works. spank. It's the only thing that works. spank. It's the only thing that works. And so he's like he's like I can't And so he's like he's like I can't And so he's like he's like I can't otherwise I cannot get her to listen or otherwise I cannot get her to listen or otherwise I cannot get her to listen or do like she is just that defiant. do like she is just that defiant. do like she is just that defiant. >> And he's and he's he's like bro I do not >> And he's and he's he's like bro I do not >> And he's and he's he's like bro I do not I always pictured myself as a parent I always pictured myself as a parent I always pictured myself as a parent that would never do that. He's like but that would never do that. He's like but that would never do that. He's like but I've been it's the only thing that gets I've been it's the only thing that gets I've been it's the only thing that gets her attention otherwise she'll just do her attention otherwise she'll just do her attention otherwise she'll just do whatever the hell she wants and not whatever the hell she wants and not whatever the hell she wants and not afraid of any of taking away stuff like afraid of any of taking away stuff like afraid of any of taking away stuff like just doesn't doesn't care. just doesn't doesn't care. just doesn't doesn't care. >> I know. And I'm I'm like, "Please, Lord, >> I know. And I'm I'm like, "Please, Lord, >> I know. And I'm I'm like, "Please, Lord, let this be the phase and not when she's let this be the phase and not when she's let this be the phase and not when she's a teenager." Cuz 3 years old, like I a teenager." Cuz 3 years old, like I a teenager." Cuz 3 years old, like I could deal with you throwing stuff like could deal with you throwing stuff like could deal with you throwing stuff like teenager that does that. Oh lord. teenager that does that. Oh lord. teenager that does that. Oh lord. >> Well, isn't that what they say? They >> Well, isn't that what they say? They >> Well, isn't that what they say? They they typically say it's one or the other they typically say it's one or the other they typically say it's one or the other is what they say. is what they say. is what they say. >> I know. I don't know if that's true. >> I know. I don't know if that's true. >> I know. I don't know if that's true. That would be awesome if it was cuz I'd That would be awesome if it was cuz I'd That would be awesome if it was cuz I'd much rather deal with a toddler. much rather deal with a toddler. much rather deal with a toddler. >> That just gives people hope. >> That just gives people hope. >> That just gives people hope. >> Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think so, too. >> Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think so, too. >> Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think so, too. >> To look forward. Although I do love >> To look forward. Although I do love >> To look forward. Although I do love that's not going to be that bad that's not going to be that bad that's not going to be that bad >> cuz I do have two, you know, big age >> cuz I do have two, you know, big age >> cuz I do have two, you know, big age gaps and I love uh there's memes that gaps and I love uh there's memes that gaps and I love uh there's memes that you'll see with like it's like like a you'll see with like it's like like a you'll see with like it's like like a parent. It's like when you're listening parent. It's like when you're listening parent. It's like when you're listening to someone say the toddler stage is the to someone say the toddler stage is the to someone say the toddler stage is the worst but you have teenagers and they're worst but you have teenagers and they're worst but you have teenagers and they're like smiling them and they're think like like smiling them and they're think like like smiling them and they're think like in their head you just wait. in their head you just wait. in their head you just wait. >> Yeah. There's other things. >> Yeah. There's other things. >> Yeah. There's other things. >> Do you see? We did uh we did soccer. We >> Do you see? We did uh we did soccer. We >> Do you see? We did uh we did soccer. We did soccer last week. did soccer last week. did soccer last week. >> I didn't see. >> I didn't see. >> I didn't see. >> Yeah. Yeah. We had soccer. >> Yeah. Yeah. We had soccer. >> Yeah. Yeah. We had soccer. >> Yeah. How'd he uh was he interested at >> Yeah. How'd he uh was he interested at >> Yeah. How'd he uh was he interested at all or is it just kind of all or is it just kind of all or is it just kind of >> I mean we went Yeah. >> I mean we went Yeah. >> I mean we went Yeah. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> but did he play like what do you mean? >> but did he play like what do you mean? >> but did he play like what do you mean? Tell me what happened. Tell me what happened. Tell me what happened. >> I mean so it was soccer camp which was >> I mean so it was soccer camp which was >> I mean so it was soccer camp which was great because it was a perfect way to great because it was a perfect way to great because it was a perfect way to >> teaching them. >> teaching them. >> teaching them. >> Yeah. To introduce it and they and the >> Yeah. To introduce it and they and the >> Yeah. To introduce it and they and the coaches were great. I mean shout out to coaches were great. I mean shout out to coaches were great. I mean shout out to that. I should give love to the company. that. I should give love to the company. that. I should give love to the company. I can't think of it off top of my head. I can't think of it off top of my head. I can't think of it off top of my head. Um out of Morgan Hill, but it uh Um out of Morgan Hill, but it uh Um out of Morgan Hill, but it uh couple guys that were running this camp. couple guys that were running this camp. couple guys that were running this camp. There was like three of them probably in There was like three of them probably in There was like three of them probably in their I'd say late 20s or something like their I'd say late 20s or something like their I'd say late 20s or something like that. super great with the kids. I mean, that. super great with the kids. I mean, that. super great with the kids. I mean, it made a lot of games out of it and and it made a lot of games out of it and and it made a lot of games out of it and and so perfect for my son to like introduce so perfect for my son to like introduce so perfect for my son to like introduce it. Like I think putting him on a team it. Like I think putting him on a team it. Like I think putting him on a team and like going straight into full-on and like going straight into full-on and like going straight into full-on practices would be he would be like, practices would be he would be like, practices would be he would be like, "Hell no, I don't want to do it." But "Hell no, I don't want to do it." But "Hell no, I don't want to do it." But because he had three of his friends because he had three of his friends because he had three of his friends there and it was a camp and so it was there and it was a camp and so it was there and it was a camp and so it was all a lot of play and and teaching them all a lot of play and and teaching them all a lot of play and and teaching them some skills and stuff. But yeah, no, some skills and stuff. But yeah, no, some skills and stuff. But yeah, no, he's and I found out afterwards that he's and I found out afterwards that he's and I found out afterwards that like I mean he he finished the three like I mean he he finished the three like I mean he he finished the three days because his mother bribed him for a days because his mother bribed him for a days because his mother bribed him for a Lego to if he made it all three days. Lego to if he made it all three days. Lego to if he made it all three days. Yeah. Yeah. But Yeah. Yeah. But Yeah. Yeah. But >> did he say he wants to do it again? I >> did he say he wants to do it again? I >> did he say he wants to do it again? I want He said no more. want He said no more. want He said no more. >> No, I mean he didn't he's like I you >> No, I mean he didn't he's like I you >> No, I mean he didn't he's like I you know like hey, how'd you like it? Yeah, know like hey, how'd you like it? Yeah, know like hey, how'd you like it? Yeah, it was all right, Dad. it was all right, Dad. it was all right, Dad. >> Well, that's not bad. At least he didn't >> Well, that's not bad. At least he didn't >> Well, that's not bad. At least he didn't like I hate it. like I hate it. like I hate it. >> Yeah. He didn't say he hate it, but he >> Yeah. He didn't say he hate it, but he >> Yeah. He didn't say he hate it, but he also said he didn't care for it, too. also said he didn't care for it, too. also said he didn't care for it, too. You know, I mean he's like he's like You know, I mean he's like he's like You know, I mean he's like he's like well you know mom said I'd get a Lego if well you know mom said I'd get a Lego if well you know mom said I'd get a Lego if I made all three days. So I made all I made all three days. So I made all I made all three days. So I made all three days. his three days. his three days. his >> I did it. How was he in the while while >> I did it. How was he in the while while >> I did it. How was he in the while while he was there? he was there? he was there? >> Uh, you know, he was uh he's more >> Uh, you know, he was uh he's more >> Uh, you know, he was uh he's more interested in, you know, when it was interested in, you know, when it was interested in, you know, when it was going to be over. You know what I'm going to be over. You know what I'm going to be over. You know what I'm saying? Like how many he was constantly saying? Like how many he was constantly saying? Like how many he was constantly like, "How many more hours is left? How like, "How many more hours is left? How like, "How many more hours is left? How much longer is left? When's lunch?" much longer is left? When's lunch?" much longer is left? When's lunch?" >> Ethan chasing bees. >> Ethan chasing bees. >> Ethan chasing bees. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He was like, "Yeah, the ball." I mean, >> He was like, "Yeah, the ball." I mean, >> He was like, "Yeah, the ball." I mean, there would be times where it would he there would be times where it would he there would be times where it would he kicked his way. He'd kind of make a jog kicked his way. He'd kind of make a jog kicked his way. He'd kind of make a jog towards it and then some other kid would towards it and then some other kid would towards it and then some other kid would would bolt there really fast and then would bolt there really fast and then would bolt there really fast and then he'd be like he'd kind of turn around he'd be like he'd kind of turn around he'd be like he'd kind of turn around looking. looking. looking. >> So just Yeah, man. Just not not that >> So just Yeah, man. Just not not that >> So just Yeah, man. Just not not that >> his thing. >> his thing. >> his thing. >> Yeah. I mean it so we we saw a good >> Yeah. I mean it so we we saw a good >> Yeah. I mean it so we we saw a good progression like day one. So we we we progression like day one. So we we we progression like day one. So we we we were going to not uh go at all. In fact, were going to not uh go at all. In fact, were going to not uh go at all. In fact, I tried to convince Katrina to not be I tried to convince Katrina to not be I tried to convince Katrina to not be there at all. Um cuz he does better when there at all. Um cuz he does better when there at all. Um cuz he does better when we're not there. And and so the I got we're not there. And and so the I got we're not there. And and so the I got her to at least agree to being out of her to at least agree to being out of her to at least agree to being out of sight. So, we dropped him off and he sight. So, we dropped him off and he sight. So, we dropped him off and he thought we were gone, but we weren't thought we were gone, but we weren't thought we were gone, but we weren't gone. We were kind of watching from afar gone. We were kind of watching from afar gone. We were kind of watching from afar and you could and there was like there and you could and there was like there and you could and there was like there was a couple times where he went down was a couple times where he went down was a couple times where he went down and I saw that he he started to like cry and I saw that he he started to like cry and I saw that he he started to like cry a little bit and stuff like that. I a little bit and stuff like that. I a little bit and stuff like that. I went, "Oh, fuck." But the coaches were went, "Oh, fuck." But the coaches were went, "Oh, fuck." But the coaches were so great. Got him up and like, "Come on, so great. Got him up and like, "Come on, so great. Got him up and like, "Come on, shake it off, you know, get him to like shake it off, you know, get him to like shake it off, you know, get him to like move and get going and not focus on like move and get going and not focus on like move and get going and not focus on like getting hit and stuff like that." And so getting hit and stuff like that." And so getting hit and stuff like that." And so it was really cool that I did get to it was really cool that I did get to it was really cool that I did get to see, see, see, >> you know, day one that happen then to >> you know, day one that happen then to >> you know, day one that happen then to day two none of that. Day three, none of day two none of that. Day three, none of day two none of that. Day three, none of that. Which that. Which that. Which >> So there's a progression. >> So there's a progression. >> So there's a progression. >> Yeah. So there was a progression. And um >> Yeah. So there was a progression. And um >> Yeah. So there was a progression. And um but yeah, not a lot of interest and was but yeah, not a lot of interest and was but yeah, not a lot of interest and was just like just like just like >> well I mean they you know at that a when >> well I mean they you know at that a when >> well I mean they you know at that a when they're young it's interesting cuz I I they're young it's interesting cuz I I they're young it's interesting cuz I I was telling you guys about my my son he was telling you guys about my my son he was telling you guys about my my son he he'll run he'll run he'll run >> but when the ball gets close to him he >> but when the ball gets close to him he >> but when the ball gets close to him he runs away for some reason but he'll run runs away for some reason but he'll run runs away for some reason but he'll run the whole time. the whole time. the whole time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think he's trying to appear busy or >> I think he's trying to appear busy or >> I think he's trying to appear busy or something. I don't know. But by the something. I don't know. But by the something. I don't know. But by the we're now I don't know how many weeks we're now I don't know how many weeks we're now I don't know how many weeks we're in now. Four maybe four or five we're in now. Four maybe four or five we're in now. Four maybe four or five weeks weeks weeks >> now. He goes after the ball. >> now. He goes after the ball. >> now. He goes after the ball. >> Yeah. Cuz he gets it >> Yeah. Cuz he gets it >> Yeah. Cuz he gets it >> cuz so they they progress. Well, yeah. >> cuz so they they progress. Well, yeah. >> cuz so they they progress. Well, yeah. He was he's Yeah. Remember he's a year He was he's Yeah. Remember he's a year He was he's Yeah. Remember he's a year year what year and a half younger than year what year and a half younger than year what year and a half younger than Max is. And he's at an age where he's Max is. And he's at an age where he's Max is. And he's at an age where he's like like like >> like he your son's got all the energy >> like he your son's got all the energy >> like he your son's got all the energy and the athletic ability. He just needs and the athletic ability. He just needs and the athletic ability. He just needs it focused on oh this is what I'm it focused on oh this is what I'm it focused on oh this is what I'm supposed to do. Like when he's when supposed to do. Like when he's when supposed to do. Like when he's when you're that young when you first do it you're that young when you first do it you're that young when you first do it you're just like what's everyone doing? you're just like what's everyone doing? you're just like what's everyone doing? Everyone's just running around. Everyone's just running around. Everyone's just running around. >> You'd be surprised. I talked to a lot of >> You'd be surprised. I talked to a lot of >> You'd be surprised. I talked to a lot of parents who who have kids in high school parents who who have kids in high school parents who who have kids in high school who are like super athletes and like oh who are like super athletes and like oh who are like super athletes and like oh my kid didn't figure out till I mean my kid didn't figure out till I mean my kid didn't figure out till I mean Katrina and I were that way. Both of us Katrina and I were that way. Both of us Katrina and I were that way. Both of us were. That's what gives me hope is that were. That's what gives me hope is that were. That's what gives me hope is that >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> we were both late bloomers when it came >> we were both late bloomers when it came >> we were both late bloomers when it came to sports. Although I did play soccer to sports. Although I did play soccer to sports. Although I did play soccer pretty young. Um but I I'd say like I pretty young. Um but I I'd say like I pretty young. Um but I I'd say like I don't remember my desire for it until don't remember my desire for it until don't remember my desire for it until until much. until much. until much. >> Yeah. Until I was much older, >> Yeah. Until I was much older, >> Yeah. Until I was much older, >> like like fifth sixth grade, right? Um >> like like fifth sixth grade, right? Um >> like like fifth sixth grade, right? Um so you know there's there's there's so you know there's there's there's so you know there's there's there's still time for and all I can do is keep still time for and all I can do is keep still time for and all I can do is keep introducing him. But I know I mean he's introducing him. But I know I mean he's introducing him. But I know I mean he's he's he's funny, man. He's just he's he's he's funny, man. He's just he's he's he's funny, man. He's just he's different in so many different ways. I different in so many different ways. I different in so many different ways. I mean, I could, you guys know Bowser and mean, I could, you guys know Bowser and mean, I could, you guys know Bowser and Mario is like his favorite his, you Mario is like his favorite his, you Mario is like his favorite his, you know, he's so into that stuff, right? know, he's so into that stuff, right? know, he's so into that stuff, right? >> Did you guys watch the new Mario? >> Did you guys watch the new Mario? >> Did you guys watch the new Mario? >> Well, so I'm driving like, "Hey, check a >> Well, so I'm driving like, "Hey, check a >> Well, so I'm driving like, "Hey, check a time at the theater." I'm like, "There's time at the theater." I'm like, "There's time at the theater." I'm like, "There's Mario's playing at the theater. You want Mario's playing at the theater. You want Mario's playing at the theater. You want to go?" And he's like, "Oh." He's like, to go?" And he's like, "Oh." He's like, to go?" And he's like, "Oh." He's like, "It's at the theater. Can we watch it at "It's at the theater. Can we watch it at "It's at the theater. Can we watch it at home?" And I'm like, "Well, it's not at home?" And I'm like, "Well, it's not at home?" And I'm like, "Well, it's not at home, right? If we want to watch it now, home, right? If we want to watch it now, home, right? If we want to watch it now, we got we go to the theater. We get some we got we go to the theater. We get some we got we go to the theater. We get some popcorns, gummy bears for that." He's popcorns, gummy bears for that." He's popcorns, gummy bears for that." He's like, like, like, >> "I'll wait till it comes out at home." >> "I'll wait till it comes out at home." >> "I'll wait till it comes out at home." >> It's time I'd rather watch it at home. >> It's time I'd rather watch it at home. >> It's time I'd rather watch it at home. You have like dude just You have like dude just You have like dude just >> Well, you know that's you, dude. That >> Well, you know that's you, dude. That >> Well, you know that's you, dude. That part right there's you. part right there's you. part right there's you. >> I'm a homebody. >> I'm a homebody. >> I'm a homebody. >> You're so. >> You're so. >> You're so. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm a home. We were at >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm a home. We were at >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm a home. We were at Jason's last night, right? We're at Jason's last night, right? We're at Jason's last night, right? We're at Jason's. Jason's. Jason's. >> That's all you >> That's all you >> That's all you >> And we're all hanging out and stuff like >> And we're all hanging out and stuff like >> And we're all hanging out and stuff like that. And he's uh you know, he he comes that. And he's uh you know, he he comes that. And he's uh you know, he he comes up to I'm sitting next to Jason talking up to I'm sitting next to Jason talking up to I'm sitting next to Jason talking to him and his dad and stuff like that. to him and his dad and stuff like that. to him and his dad and stuff like that. And Max is like, "Dad, I'm ready to go And Max is like, "Dad, I'm ready to go And Max is like, "Dad, I'm ready to go home now." Right in front of Jason. home now." Right in front of Jason. home now." Right in front of Jason. All right. All right, dude. I said, All right. All right, dude. I said, All right. All right, dude. I said, "Give me like 10 minutes." I'm just "Give me like 10 minutes." I'm just "Give me like 10 minutes." I'm just like, "Dude, he's just such a homebody, like, "Dude, he's just such a homebody, like, "Dude, he's just such a homebody, bro. He's he is." Yeah. I mean, that's bro. He's he is." Yeah. I mean, that's bro. He's he is." Yeah. I mean, that's why I don't get mad. I mean, he has a why I don't get mad. I mean, he has a why I don't get mad. I mean, he has a he's he's patient. He has a good he's he's patient. He has a good he's he's patient. He has a good attitude about it. If I tell him attitude about it. If I tell him attitude about it. If I tell him >> he's got great character, so that's all >> he's got great character, so that's all >> he's got great character, so that's all that's what you want, dude. that's what you want, dude. that's what you want, dude. >> You know what I'm saying? And he knows >> You know what I'm saying? And he knows >> You know what I'm saying? And he knows what he wants. And so, and he Yeah. what he wants. And so, and he Yeah. what he wants. And so, and he Yeah. Yeah. He's not afraid to tell you like, Yeah. He's not afraid to tell you like, Yeah. He's not afraid to tell you like, "Yeah, no, Dad. It's not I don't care "Yeah, no, Dad. It's not I don't care "Yeah, no, Dad. It's not I don't care for it that much." So, for it that much." So, for it that much." So, >> we were at a birthday We were at a >> we were at a birthday We were at a >> we were at a birthday We were at a birthday. It was like a a party with a birthday. It was like a a party with a birthday. It was like a a party with a lot of our friends from church, and they lot of our friends from church, and they lot of our friends from church, and they a lot of them have kids that are the a lot of them have kids that are the a lot of them have kids that are the same age as uh my 5-year-old, but same age as uh my 5-year-old, but same age as uh my 5-year-old, but they're all girls. So they were in the they're all girls. So they were in the they're all girls. So they were in the jumpy house and just my son with jumpy house and just my son with jumpy house and just my son with literally it's like five, six girls his literally it's like five, six girls his literally it's like five, six girls his age and they're jumping and playing and age and they're jumping and playing and age and they're jumping and playing and I'm watching this whole thing and the I'm watching this whole thing and the I'm watching this whole thing and the moms are coming over. They're like, moms are coming over. They're like, moms are coming over. They're like, "This is going to be interesting when "This is going to be interesting when "This is going to be interesting when they get older." Like, "Yeah, dude." they get older." Like, "Yeah, dude." they get older." Like, "Yeah, dude." >> Dude, you know, >> Dude, you know, >> Dude, you know, >> the only guy they're all >> the only guy they're all >> the only guy they're all >> Hey, speaking of that, you know what's >> Hey, speaking of that, you know what's >> Hey, speaking of that, you know what's funny though? We were talking about this funny though? We were talking about this funny though? We were talking about this this weekend, Larry's birthday party. I this weekend, Larry's birthday party. I this weekend, Larry's birthday party. I was talking to my sister-in-law about was talking to my sister-in-law about was talking to my sister-in-law about this and uh we were talking about Max this and uh we were talking about Max this and uh we were talking about Max and he's got he was with uh he has this and he's got he was with uh he has this and he's got he was with uh he has this girl who's he's one of his best friends girl who's he's one of his best friends girl who's he's one of his best friends and she's like she's like super tall and and she's like she's like super tall and and she's like she's like super tall and looks like she's like 5 years older but looks like she's like 5 years older but looks like she's like 5 years older but they're the same age they're the same age they're the same age >> and uh she totally like grabs him by the >> and uh she totally like grabs him by the >> and uh she totally like grabs him by the hand tell and he just he loves her. hand tell and he just he loves her. hand tell and he just he loves her. He'll do whatever she wants to do and He'll do whatever she wants to do and He'll do whatever she wants to do and like that. It's the cutest thing ever like that. It's the cutest thing ever like that. It's the cutest thing ever >> and it's hilarious to watch my wife. It >> and it's hilarious to watch my wife. It >> and it's hilarious to watch my wife. It drives Katrina crazy. Katrina does not drives Katrina crazy. Katrina does not drives Katrina crazy. Katrina does not like when little girls boss her son like when little girls boss her son like when little girls boss her son around. Oh, that's a lot. around. Oh, that's a lot. around. Oh, that's a lot. >> Which is ironic as [ __ ] to me >> Which is ironic as [ __ ] to me >> Which is ironic as [ __ ] to me >> cuz every man she ever dated. Yes. I'm >> cuz every man she ever dated. Yes. I'm >> cuz every man she ever dated. Yes. I'm like, the irony. And she goes, "The like, the irony. And she goes, "The like, the irony. And she goes, "The irony of you not to care. You would irony of you not to care. You would irony of you not to care. You would never put up with that shit." I'm like, never put up with that shit." I'm like, never put up with that shit." I'm like, "Yeah, but he's he's Yeah, he's six "Yeah, but he's he's Yeah, he's six "Yeah, but he's he's Yeah, he's six right now. It's cute." You know what I'm right now. It's cute." You know what I'm right now. It's cute." You know what I'm saying? Like, it won't be cute when he's saying? Like, it won't be cute when he's saying? Like, it won't be cute when he's in high school. And I'm like, "Yeah, and in high school. And I'm like, "Yeah, and in high school. And I'm like, "Yeah, and I'll talk to him when he's in high I'll talk to him when he's in high I'll talk to him when he's in high school." Right now, it's okay. He's school." Right now, it's okay. He's school." Right now, it's okay. He's listen. But boy, she just she sits him listen. But boy, she just she sits him listen. But boy, she just she sits him down. Like, you don't let those girls down. Like, you don't let those girls down. Like, you don't let those girls tell you what to do. tell you what to do. tell you what to do. >> Oh, yes, she does. She gets and so her >> Oh, yes, she does. She gets and so her >> Oh, yes, she does. She gets and so her sister and I are talking about I'm like sister and I are talking about I'm like sister and I are talking about I'm like it's hilarious to me to watch your it's hilarious to me to watch your it's hilarious to me to watch your sister get so defensive with these sister get so defensive with these sister get so defensive with these little girls. She that is her Katrina's little girls. She that is her Katrina's little girls. She that is her Katrina's biggest pet peeve with the kids is that biggest pet peeve with the kids is that biggest pet peeve with the kids is that >> is girls is she does not like seeing >> is girls is she does not like seeing >> is girls is she does not like seeing little girls boss her son around. And so little girls boss her son around. And so little girls boss her son around. And so she is adamant about like sitting him she is adamant about like sitting him she is adamant about like sitting him down being like, "Hey, when she tells down being like, "Hey, when she tells down being like, "Hey, when she tells you to do this, you don't you don't do you to do this, you don't you don't do you to do this, you don't you don't do that unless you want." Yeah. Yeah. And that unless you want." Yeah. Yeah. And that unless you want." Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, "Let him. She's cute and he's I'm like, "Let him. She's cute and he's I'm like, "Let him. She's cute and he's he likes he likes hanging out with her he likes he likes hanging out with her he likes he likes hanging out with her and he gets along with him and so and he gets along with him and so and he gets along with him and so >> he'll figure that out. >> he'll figure that out. >> he'll figure that out. >> You know, it happens eventually. >> You know, it happens eventually. >> You know, it happens eventually. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean I I So I maybe that's cuz her my >> I mean I I So I maybe that's cuz her my >> I mean I I So I maybe that's cuz her my sister-in-law was like she's like I'm sister-in-law was like she's like I'm sister-in-law was like she's like I'm surprised that that doesn't bother you. surprised that that doesn't bother you. surprised that that doesn't bother you. And I'm like, you know, And I'm like, you know, And I'm like, you know, >> I was kind of like that when I was >> I was kind of like that when I was >> I was kind of like that when I was young. I liked young. I liked young. I liked >> you worked through that. >> you worked through that. >> you worked through that. >> Yeah. I hung out I hung out with the >> Yeah. I hung out I hung out with the >> Yeah. I hung out I hung out with the chicks and I liked I liked older girls chicks and I liked I liked older girls chicks and I liked I liked older girls and like they could totally get me to do and like they could totally get me to do and like they could totally get me to do what I remember being charming. Yeah, I what I remember being charming. Yeah, I what I remember being charming. Yeah, I remember being in fourth, fifth, sixth remember being in fourth, fifth, sixth remember being in fourth, fifth, sixth grade and being on the bus and having grade and being on the bus and having grade and being on the bus and having the the older girls talking to me and the the older girls talking to me and the the older girls talking to me and they could get me to do stuff because I they could get me to do stuff because I they could get me to do stuff because I was into that, you know, whatever. But was into that, you know, whatever. But was into that, you know, whatever. But then I grew up, you got older, then I grew up, you got older, then I grew up, you got older, different. You know what I'm saying? But different. You know what I'm saying? But different. You know what I'm saying? But so I look at him and I see that I'm so I look at him and I see that I'm so I look at him and I see that I'm like, it's okay right now. He's fine. like, it's okay right now. He's fine. like, it's okay right now. He's fine. He'll Yeah, it's like Katrina's like, He'll Yeah, it's like Katrina's like, He'll Yeah, it's like Katrina's like, "Hell no." "Hell no." "Hell no." >> That's so funny. That's so funny. >> That's so funny. That's so funny. >> That's so funny. That's so funny. >> Yeah. I took uh I went to Legoland last >> Yeah. I took uh I went to Legoland last >> Yeah. I took uh I went to Legoland last week. week. week. >> How'd you like it? >> How'd you like it? >> How'd you like it? >> It is really like it for little kids. >> It is really like it for little kids. >> It is really like it for little kids. It's amazing. It's awesome. It's amazing. It's awesome. It's amazing. It's awesome. >> It's amazing for his age. Definitely >> It's amazing for his age. Definitely >> It's amazing for his age. Definitely though, if your standard is Disneyland, though, if your standard is Disneyland, though, if your standard is Disneyland, >> come on. You can't compare anything. >> come on. You can't compare anything. >> come on. You can't compare anything. >> It's like super janky. >> It's like super janky. >> It's like super janky. >> It's very far. I think I think I think >> It's very far. I think I think I think >> It's very far. I think I think I think it's a great I think it's a perfect ride it's a great I think it's a perfect ride it's a great I think it's a perfect ride before Disneyland. before Disneyland. before Disneyland. >> So, like I didn't want to take Max to >> So, like I didn't want to take Max to >> So, like I didn't want to take Max to Disneyland. Disneyland. Disneyland. >> It's better for little kids. >> It's better for little kids. >> It's better for little kids. >> I didn't want to take Max to Disneyland >> I didn't want to take Max to Disneyland >> I didn't want to take Max to Disneyland until he was able to ride all the ride. until he was able to ride all the ride. until he was able to ride all the ride. Like that that was like a big discussion Like that that was like a big discussion Like that that was like a big discussion our like we had friends that took their our like we had friends that took their our like we had friends that took their kids to Disneyland like at 4. They can't kids to Disneyland like at 4. They can't kids to Disneyland like at 4. They can't even ride everything. It's so expensive. even ride everything. It's so expensive. even ride everything. It's so expensive. It's like why why do that? It's like why why do that? It's like why why do that? >> Exactly. And so I was like, let's wait >> Exactly. And so I was like, let's wait >> Exactly. And so I was like, let's wait till Max is at an age where he's tall till Max is at an age where he's tall till Max is at an age where he's tall enough and can ride everything. And like enough and can ride everything. And like enough and can ride everything. And like Legoland's perfect for when they're Legoland's perfect for when they're Legoland's perfect for when they're before that, like there's a lot of stuff before that, like there's a lot of stuff before that, like there's a lot of stuff they can still do. they can still do. they can still do. >> It was Yeah. And then we did every ride >> It was Yeah. And then we did every ride >> It was Yeah. And then we did every ride that you know that he wanted. Uh the that you know that he wanted. Uh the that you know that he wanted. Uh the park is perfect for little kids. Uh and park is perfect for little kids. Uh and park is perfect for little kids. Uh and it's the first time it was just him and it's the first time it was just him and it's the first time it was just him and I. So it was nice fatherson time just I. So it was nice fatherson time just I. So it was nice fatherson time just having fun. having fun. having fun. >> Now, how was that? >> Now, how was that? >> Now, how was that? >> It was awesome. It was awesome. He kept >> It was awesome. It was awesome. He kept >> It was awesome. It was awesome. He kept telling me how awesome it was. He kept telling me how awesome it was. He kept telling me how awesome it was. He kept saying, "This is the best time I've ever saying, "This is the best time I've ever saying, "This is the best time I've ever had." had." had." >> I don't remember that. Yeah. >> I don't remember that. Yeah. >> I don't remember that. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Those are the ones that make a >> Oh, yeah. Those are the ones that make a >> Oh, yeah. Those are the ones that make a big impact. big impact. big impact. >> Oh, this is the best time. this is the >> Oh, this is the best time. this is the >> Oh, this is the best time. this is the best place. I love this. Let's not best place. I love this. Let's not best place. I love this. Let's not leave. He just kept telling me over and leave. He just kept telling me over and leave. He just kept telling me over and over again, we're having fun. I let him over again, we're having fun. I let him over again, we're having fun. I let him eat, you know, more treats than he eat, you know, more treats than he eat, you know, more treats than he normally, you know, have. We stayed up normally, you know, have. We stayed up normally, you know, have. We stayed up late, right, till 9:00, which is funny late, right, till 9:00, which is funny late, right, till 9:00, which is funny cuz he would tell people I stayed up cuz he would tell people I stayed up cuz he would tell people I stayed up till 9:00. You know what I mean? All till 9:00. You know what I mean? All till 9:00. You know what I mean? All crazy. crazy. crazy. >> But we had a great time, dude. And then >> But we had a great time, dude. And then >> But we had a great time, dude. And then before that, I took my 16-year-old to before that, I took my 16-year-old to before that, I took my 16-year-old to down to look at some colleges down the down to look at some colleges down the down to look at some colleges down the LA area. And then the day after, we went LA area. And then the day after, we went LA area. And then the day after, we went to Universal together. Very different to Universal together. Very different to Universal together. Very different experience. experience. experience. >> Okay. So, how did you do this? Did you >> Okay. So, how did you do this? Did you >> Okay. So, how did you do this? Did you fly down with your daughter and then fly fly down with your daughter and then fly fly down with your daughter and then fly back? back? back? >> Fly down again with my son. Oh, I >> Fly down again with my son. Oh, I >> Fly down again with my son. Oh, I thought you drove down there. I did two thought you drove down there. I did two thought you drove down there. I did two two trips. two trips. two trips. >> Oh, you did two separate flights back >> Oh, you did two separate flights back >> Oh, you did two separate flights back and Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I and Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I and Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And I wanted to have alone time with each of wanted to have alone time with each of wanted to have alone time with each of them. them. them. >> Yeah. And uh you know, first off, with >> Yeah. And uh you know, first off, with >> Yeah. And uh you know, first off, with your teenage kid, uh it's hard to get your teenage kid, uh it's hard to get your teenage kid, uh it's hard to get teenagers to kind of open up, especially teenagers to kind of open up, especially teenagers to kind of open up, especially >> I don't know if this is more true or >> I don't know if this is more true or >> I don't know if this is more true or not, but I it's it's hard like if I you not, but I it's it's hard like if I you not, but I it's it's hard like if I you know, hey, how's your day? What's going know, hey, how's your day? What's going know, hey, how's your day? What's going on? They get one word answers. on? They get one word answers. on? They get one word answers. >> Plus, she's busy. She's got sports. We >> Plus, she's busy. She's got sports. We >> Plus, she's busy. She's got sports. We don't have like all this time to sit and don't have like all this time to sit and don't have like all this time to sit and just let the space create that. just let the space create that. just let the space create that. >> Mhm. So, I'm like, "Let's get away. >> Mhm. So, I'm like, "Let's get away. >> Mhm. So, I'm like, "Let's get away. We're going to start looking at colleges We're going to start looking at colleges We're going to start looking at colleges soon anyway." And uh but it's funny soon anyway." And uh but it's funny soon anyway." And uh but it's funny because we were driving and uh I had uh because we were driving and uh I had uh because we were driving and uh I had uh AI print out. I printed out or not AI print out. I printed out or not AI print out. I printed out or not printed. I took 50 questions you can ask printed. I took 50 questions you can ask printed. I took 50 questions you can ask your 16-year-old daughter for your 16-year-old daughter for your 16-year-old daughter for connection. I actually asked it. connection. I actually asked it. connection. I actually asked it. >> I was going to >> I was going to >> I was going to >> So, I had kept asking questions. Didn't >> So, I had kept asking questions. Didn't >> So, I had kept asking questions. Didn't work. work. work. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> There was I was going to ask you, do you >> There was I was going to ask you, do you >> There was I was going to ask you, do you remember what Fig and Eagle what um remember what Fig and Eagle what um remember what Fig and Eagle what um >> there was a there was something he said >> there was a there was something he said >> there was a there was something he said there's a way to engage your teenage there's a way to engage your teenage there's a way to engage your teenage kids. kids. kids. >> Yes. It's stuff like this. It's like >> Yes. It's stuff like this. It's like >> Yes. It's stuff like this. It's like instead of saying, "How was your day at instead of saying, "How was your day at instead of saying, "How was your day at school?" You would say something like, school?" You would say something like, school?" You would say something like, "If if today if today was a movie at "If if today if today was a movie at "If if today if today was a movie at school with the title, school with the title, school with the title, >> baby." >> baby." >> baby." >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Dude, I tried all that. >> Yeah. Dude, I tried all that. >> Yeah. Dude, I tried all that. >> Doesn't work. >> Doesn't work. >> Doesn't work. >> No, she has to be in the mood, man. And >> No, she has to be in the mood, man. And >> No, she has to be in the mood, man. And so, so, so, >> it was like pulling teeth to kind of get >> it was like pulling teeth to kind of get >> it was like pulling teeth to kind of get her to her to her to >> stuff like that, too. >> stuff like that, too. >> stuff like that, too. >> One thing that I can always do with my >> One thing that I can always do with my >> One thing that I can always do with my daughter is have fun, though. So, we can daughter is have fun, though. So, we can daughter is have fun, though. So, we can always like together have fun. Yeah. always like together have fun. Yeah. always like together have fun. Yeah. >> But to have like those deep >> But to have like those deep >> But to have like those deep conversations, it's like what ends up conversations, it's like what ends up conversations, it's like what ends up happening is I force it and it turns happening is I force it and it turns happening is I force it and it turns into a lecture into a lecture into a lecture >> and then she shuts down even more. You >> and then she shuts down even more. You >> and then she shuts down even more. You know what I mean? Yeah. know what I mean? Yeah. know what I mean? Yeah. >> So, so I'm like trying to like to get >> So, so I'm like trying to like to get >> So, so I'm like trying to like to get her to kind of open up. Uh, and she kind her to kind of open up. Uh, and she kind her to kind of open up. Uh, and she kind of did a little bit the first day. Then of did a little bit the first day. Then of did a little bit the first day. Then we got a little argument by the end of we got a little argument by the end of we got a little argument by the end of the day because uh, you know, there's the day because uh, you know, there's the day because uh, you know, there's like certain colleges that I will pay like certain colleges that I will pay like certain colleges that I will pay for and anything outside of that I for and anything outside of that I for and anything outside of that I won't. So, she you know, the whole like won't. So, she you know, the whole like won't. So, she you know, the whole like you're trying to control me. I'm like, you're trying to control me. I'm like, you're trying to control me. I'm like, well, yeah, well, yeah, well, yeah, >> I'm paying. >> I'm paying. >> I'm paying. >> If you pay, you can decide. >> If you pay, you can decide. >> If you pay, you can decide. >> Do you think part of that challenge is >> Do you think part of that challenge is >> Do you think part of that challenge is also uh because you said something that also uh because you said something that also uh because you said something that reminds me of the the challenge I had reminds me of the the challenge I had reminds me of the the challenge I had with my siblings. So I have I'm there's with my siblings. So I have I'm there's with my siblings. So I have I'm there's four of us and I'm and the the two four of us and I'm and the the two four of us and I'm and the the two youngest ones there's a massive gap 13 youngest ones there's a massive gap 13 youngest ones there's a massive gap 13 and 15 years and 15 years and 15 years >> and uh so most of their life I was just >> and uh so most of their life I was just >> and uh so most of their life I was just like in another parent. like in another parent. like in another parent. >> Yep. Yep. >> Yep. Yep. >> Yep. Yep. >> And when I've had a really hard time in >> And when I've had a really hard time in >> And when I've had a really hard time in in in our in our 30s and 40s now is uh in in our in our 30s and 40s now is uh in in our in our 30s and 40s now is uh just being a brother. Yeah. just being a brother. Yeah. just being a brother. Yeah. >> And I know that part of that's my fault. >> And I know that part of that's my fault. >> And I know that part of that's my fault. Like I I don't even and I it took me Like I I don't even and I it took me Like I I don't even and I it took me Yeah. It took me a long time to realize Yeah. It took me a long time to realize Yeah. It took me a long time to realize even the way I talk because I would go even the way I talk because I would go even the way I talk because I would go into lecture mode. I didn't even mean into lecture mode. I didn't even mean into lecture mode. I didn't even mean to. You know what I'm It was just to. You know what I'm It was just to. You know what I'm It was just natural that that's I'm the way older natural that that's I'm the way older natural that that's I'm the way older brother. I have a lot more experience brother. I have a lot more experience brother. I have a lot more experience and wisdom, but I'm like I'm trying to and wisdom, but I'm like I'm trying to and wisdom, but I'm like I'm trying to get out of that. And so, do you feel get out of that. And so, do you feel get out of that. And so, do you feel like some of it is even you on how you like some of it is even you on how you like some of it is even you on how you communicate back to her? Right. Like communicate back to her? Right. Like communicate back to her? Right. Like >> if for sure because uh >> if for sure because uh >> if for sure because uh >> like practicing she says something and >> like practicing she says something and >> like practicing she says something and you're like, "Ooh, I want to do this. you're like, "Ooh, I want to do this. you're like, "Ooh, I want to do this. Say this, but I need to practice." Say this, but I need to practice." Say this, but I need to practice." >> It's not even that. It's just getting to >> It's not even that. It's just getting to >> It's not even that. It's just getting to like start opening up. Like we'll just like start opening up. Like we'll just like start opening up. Like we'll just drive in the car and it'll be just quiet drive in the car and it'll be just quiet drive in the car and it'll be just quiet and she'll just listen to music. I'm and she'll just listen to music. I'm and she'll just listen to music. I'm like, "Okay." Like I'm here to like like, "Okay." Like I'm here to like like, "Okay." Like I'm here to like connect with you. So then I got to do connect with you. So then I got to do connect with you. So then I got to do the whole like, "Hey, put your phone the whole like, "Hey, put your phone the whole like, "Hey, put your phone down." "Hey, let's just talk for a down." "Hey, let's just talk for a down." "Hey, let's just talk for a second." second." second." >> Yeah. But what I what I recognized what >> Yeah. But what I what I recognized what >> Yeah. But what I what I recognized what I realized was that a lot of that was my I realized was that a lot of that was my I realized was that a lot of that was my fault because when they would, I would fault because when they would, I would fault because when they would, I would go right into lecture mode versus I what go right into lecture mode versus I what go right into lecture mode versus I what I needed to learn to do was they were I needed to learn to do was they were I needed to learn to do was they were going to say something. And inside of going to say something. And inside of going to say something. And inside of me, I have the answer. I have a thing, me, I have the answer. I have a thing, me, I have the answer. I have a thing, but I just need to be a brother. Like, but I just need to be a brother. Like, but I just need to be a brother. Like, oh damn, that's so oh damn, that's so oh damn, that's so >> No, it's more like this because I know >> No, it's more like this because I know >> No, it's more like this because I know that feeling. I have that with my that feeling. I have that with my that feeling. I have that with my siblings, too. Uh it's more like this. siblings, too. Uh it's more like this. siblings, too. Uh it's more like this. No one's talking. I'm asking a question. No one's talking. I'm asking a question. No one's talking. I'm asking a question. I get a short answer. Nothing else. I'll I get a short answer. Nothing else. I'll I get a short answer. Nothing else. I'll give you. So then it's like, hey, you give you. So then it's like, hey, you give you. So then it's like, hey, you know, there's there's a few things that know, there's there's a few things that know, there's there's a few things that you want to look at, you know, when you you want to look at, you know, when you you want to look at, you know, when you meet a guy. And so I just it's like I'm meet a guy. And so I just it's like I'm meet a guy. And so I just it's like I'm trying to create conversation, but if trying to create conversation, but if trying to create conversation, but if she starts talking, I'll listen. Uh, you she starts talking, I'll listen. Uh, you she starts talking, I'll listen. Uh, you know, I I figured that part out uh with know, I I figured that part out uh with know, I I figured that part out uh with her, but we can have fun. So then the her, but we can have fun. So then the her, but we can have fun. So then the next day we went to Universal and then next day we went to Universal and then next day we went to Universal and then we had a blast. Uh, and I said, so I get we had a blast. Uh, and I said, so I get we had a blast. Uh, and I said, so I get motion sickness. I don't like going on motion sickness. I don't like going on motion sickness. I don't like going on roller coasters, but I'm like, I'm going roller coasters, but I'm like, I'm going roller coasters, but I'm like, I'm going to do, and my daughter loves the to do, and my daughter loves the to do, and my daughter loves the scariest, most crazy rides. So I'm like, scariest, most crazy rides. So I'm like, scariest, most crazy rides. So I'm like, I'm going to do every ride. I don't care I'm going to do every ride. I don't care I'm going to do every ride. I don't care how crappy I feel, how crappy I feel, how crappy I feel, >> bro. By the end of it, it was this >> bro. By the end of it, it was this >> bro. By the end of it, it was this close, dude. Throwing up. close, dude. Throwing up. close, dude. Throwing up. >> I was so close, dude. But I did every >> I was so close, dude. But I did every >> I was so close, dude. But I did every ride. And then we were able to start ride. And then we were able to start ride. And then we were able to start kind of warming up and and talking and kind of warming up and and talking and kind of warming up and and talking and stuff like that. But stuff like that. But stuff like that. But >> those teacups for you, though. >> those teacups for you, though. >> those teacups for you, though. >> No, we did. You know which one almost >> No, we did. You know which one almost >> No, we did. You know which one almost got me, dude? Was the Harry Potter got me, dude? Was the Harry Potter got me, dude? Was the Harry Potter freaking Yeah, dude. freaking Yeah, dude. freaking Yeah, dude. >> Was that Was it the first time you've >> Was that Was it the first time you've >> Was that Was it the first time you've been Universal? Universal's cool now. been Universal? Universal's cool now. been Universal? Universal's cool now. Beer, Beer, Beer, >> huh? >> huh? >> huh? >> Did you try that butter beer? >> Did you try that butter beer? >> Did you try that butter beer? >> What is that? >> What is that? >> What is that? >> Oh, yeah. I saw something about that. >> Oh, yeah. I saw something about that. >> Oh, yeah. I saw something about that. It's like a really sweet uh creamy like It's like a really sweet uh creamy like It's like a really sweet uh creamy like root beer beer kind of stuff. root beer beer kind of stuff. root beer beer kind of stuff. >> Oh, okay. I should have got that. >> Oh, okay. I should have got that. >> Oh, okay. I should have got that. >> Yeah, it hurts really good. >> Yeah, it hurts really good. >> Yeah, it hurts really good. >> Yeah, I should have got that thing. >> Yeah, I should have got that thing. >> Yeah, I should have got that thing. >> No, I had I hadn't been there in a >> No, I had I hadn't been there in a >> No, I had I hadn't been there in a while. Um the place is massive. That's while. Um the place is massive. That's while. Um the place is massive. That's that's fun with older kids for sure. that's fun with older kids for sure. that's fun with older kids for sure. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> not with the younger kids. The younger >> not with the younger kids. The younger >> not with the younger kids. The younger kids would have hated that. Yeah. kids would have hated that. Yeah. kids would have hated that. Yeah. >> But anyway, I mean, it turned out to be >> But anyway, I mean, it turned out to be >> But anyway, I mean, it turned out to be good, but it's just uh I'm just going to good, but it's just uh I'm just going to good, but it's just uh I'm just going to try creating more of those opportunities try creating more of those opportunities try creating more of those opportunities to just be just the two of us because um to just be just the two of us because um to just be just the two of us because um whether it's at home or getting away. whether it's at home or getting away. whether it's at home or getting away. >> I feel kind of bad just listening to >> I feel kind of bad just listening to >> I feel kind of bad just listening to your guys' stories. Like, we literally your guys' stories. Like, we literally your guys' stories. Like, we literally didn't do anything for the kids. didn't do anything for the kids. didn't do anything for the kids. >> I mean, I didn't do anything either, >> I mean, I didn't do anything either, >> I mean, I didn't do anything either, bro. We were sick, bro. We were sick, bro. We were sick, >> bro. There's so much going on. And uh >> bro. There's so much going on. And uh >> bro. There's so much going on. And uh but we obviously we took them to Palm but we obviously we took them to Palm but we obviously we took them to Palm Desert and it was fun. like we went on Desert and it was fun. like we went on Desert and it was fun. like we went on some hikes and uh you know I took him some hikes and uh you know I took him some hikes and uh you know I took him mini golfing and there's this place mini golfing and there's this place mini golfing and there's this place there that's like so old school. It's there that's like so old school. It's there that's like so old school. It's like it reminds me of uh uh Karate Kid, like it reminds me of uh uh Karate Kid, like it reminds me of uh uh Karate Kid, you know, where he goes to golf and you know, where he goes to golf and you know, where he goes to golf and stuff and there's like all like the the stuff and there's like all like the the stuff and there's like all like the the go-karts and stuff. So, what was great go-karts and stuff. So, what was great go-karts and stuff. So, what was great was um I was I was racing against Ethan was um I was I was racing against Ethan was um I was I was racing against Ethan and he's like super into racing and he and he's like super into racing and he and he's like super into racing and he thought he was awesome and all this thought he was awesome and all this thought he was awesome and all this stuff and so the last lap uh I just I stuff and so the last lap uh I just I stuff and so the last lap uh I just I cut him off and then got right in front cut him off and then got right in front cut him off and then got right in front and then beat him. So, and then beat him. So, and then beat him. So, >> I could flex on him forever for that. >> I could flex on him forever for that. >> I could flex on him forever for that. So, that's good bragging rights. So, that's good bragging rights. So, that's good bragging rights. >> Did you remind him that you're way >> Did you remind him that you're way >> Did you remind him that you're way heavier and you shouldn't have beat him? heavier and you shouldn't have beat him? heavier and you shouldn't have beat him? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm basically like >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm basically like >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm basically like King Kong out there, you know, a little King Kong out there, you know, a little King Kong out there, you know, a little like Mario Kong. like Mario Kong. like Mario Kong. >> Donkey Kong. >> Donkey Kong. >> Donkey Kong. Exactly. But uh we we actually purchased Exactly. But uh we we actually purchased Exactly. But uh we we actually purchased a um an old BMW car for him. a um an old BMW car for him. a um an old BMW car for him. >> Oh, you got it. You got it. >> Oh, you got it. You got it. >> Oh, you got it. You got it. >> Got we got Yeah, it's a different one. >> Got we got Yeah, it's a different one. >> Got we got Yeah, it's a different one. >> Um and it was a bummer cuz like we for >> Um and it was a bummer cuz like we for >> Um and it was a bummer cuz like we for his birthday we were trying to time it his birthday we were trying to time it his birthday we were trying to time it obviously close to his birthday, but uh obviously close to his birthday, but uh obviously close to his birthday, but uh the one that we were going to get fell the one that we were going to get fell the one that we were going to get fell through and the guy sold it to somebody through and the guy sold it to somebody through and the guy sold it to somebody else like right at the last second. else like right at the last second. else like right at the last second. We're like, "Dude." We're like, "Dude." We're like, "Dude." >> Um but this one was like still a manual >> Um but this one was like still a manual >> Um but this one was like still a manual stick shift. So, I really wanted to make stick shift. So, I really wanted to make stick shift. So, I really wanted to make sure that was like a thing. sure that was like a thing. sure that was like a thing. >> That's a flex, by the way, for him. >> That's a flex, by the way, for him. >> That's a flex, by the way, for him. Like, he's going to take girls out on Like, he's going to take girls out on Like, he's going to take girls out on that. They're going to trip over. that. They're going to trip over. that. They're going to trip over. >> It's also a brilliant strategy on his >> It's also a brilliant strategy on his >> It's also a brilliant strategy on his part, too. It's a It's a nice smart way part, too. It's a It's a nice smart way part, too. It's a It's a nice smart way for a parent to keep your kid off the for a parent to keep your kid off the for a parent to keep your kid off the phone while he's driving, too. Totally. phone while he's driving, too. Totally. phone while he's driving, too. Totally. Without saying it, you just do it. I Without saying it, you just do it. I Without saying it, you just do it. I mean, like, cuz mean, like, cuz mean, like, cuz >> Yeah. And he's really into uh stock car >> Yeah. And he's really into uh stock car >> Yeah. And he's really into uh stock car racing and racing in general. And I'm racing and racing in general. And I'm racing and racing in general. And I'm like, if you want to be all in that like, if you want to be all in that like, if you want to be all in that world, you better know how to drive a world, you better know how to drive a world, you better know how to drive a stick shift. And so I it started to kind stick shift. And so I it started to kind stick shift. And so I it started to kind of resonate. Uh but I'm like there's a of resonate. Uh but I'm like there's a of resonate. Uh but I'm like there's a learning curve. It's not easy. And so he learning curve. It's not easy. And so he learning curve. It's not easy. And so he he took it around the parking lot. And he took it around the parking lot. And he took it around the parking lot. And it was cool cuz this younger guy who was it was cool cuz this younger guy who was it was cool cuz this younger guy who was selling it uh you know he's like I'll selling it uh you know he's like I'll selling it uh you know he's like I'll take him and like you know took him take him and like you know took him take him and like you know took him around and and taught him some things around and and taught him some things around and and taught him some things without us which was kind of cool to without us which was kind of cool to without us which was kind of cool to watch him uh you know figure it out. You watch him uh you know figure it out. You watch him uh you know figure it out. You know he did pretty well. He didn't like know he did pretty well. He didn't like know he did pretty well. He didn't like stall it out like completely at first. stall it out like completely at first. stall it out like completely at first. He did all right, you know, but then it He did all right, you know, but then it He did all right, you know, but then it >> he's done motorcycles. >> he's done motorcycles. >> he's done motorcycles. >> Um, no, not really. >> Um, no, not really. >> Um, no, not really. >> Oh, really? Okay. >> Oh, really? Okay. >> Oh, really? Okay. >> I mean, he's done like like quads like >> I mean, he's done like like quads like >> I mean, he's done like like quads like >> So, he knows how to use a clutch. >> So, he knows how to use a clutch. >> So, he knows how to use a clutch. >> He knows how to use a clutch like >> He knows how to use a clutch like >> He knows how to use a clutch like somewhat, but not somewhat, but not somewhat, but not >> That's so different, though. >> That's so different, though. >> That's so different, though. >> It is. But it's a concept cuz I I drove >> It is. But it's a concept cuz I I drove >> It is. But it's a concept cuz I I drove >> Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Sure. >> Cuz I learned on a uh what are the what >> Cuz I learned on a uh what are the what >> Cuz I learned on a uh what are the what are they called? The the 50s, the little are they called? The the 50s, the little are they called? The the 50s, the little Yeah. Yeah. And it had a clutch. So, Yeah. Yeah. And it had a clutch. So, Yeah. Yeah. And it had a clutch. So, when I first drove a stick shift, I got when I first drove a stick shift, I got when I first drove a stick shift, I got the concept of the clutch because the concept of the clutch because the concept of the clutch because otherwise, you don't know concept of a otherwise, you don't know concept of a otherwise, you don't know concept of a clutch. clutch. clutch. >> Yeah. They're like, "What do I do?" >> Yeah. They're like, "What do I do?" >> Yeah. They're like, "What do I do?" >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's a >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's a >> Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, there's a lot to learn there with RPMs and, you lot to learn there with RPMs and, you lot to learn there with RPMs and, you know, listening and what's cool though know, listening and what's cool though know, listening and what's cool though is you get really like attached to the is you get really like attached to the is you get really like attached to the vehicle like you understand the sounds. vehicle like you understand the sounds. vehicle like you understand the sounds. >> Oh, I missed next on my radar. >> Oh, I missed next on my radar. >> Oh, I missed next on my radar. >> I forgot like and I was driving it a bit >> I forgot like and I was driving it a bit >> I forgot like and I was driving it a bit and it's funny cuz it's you just it's a and it's funny cuz it's you just it's a and it's funny cuz it's you just it's a very visceral experience that way as very visceral experience that way as very visceral experience that way as opposed to, you know, just like turning opposed to, you know, just like turning opposed to, you know, just like turning it on with a stupid, you know, button it on with a stupid, you know, button it on with a stupid, you know, button and then we're out of here. Like it's so and then we're out of here. Like it's so and then we're out of here. Like it's so automatic now. Um, but yeah, I love it automatic now. Um, but yeah, I love it automatic now. Um, but yeah, I love it cuz it's it it's like no balls, dude. cuz it's it it's like no balls, dude. cuz it's it it's like no balls, dude. It's it was uh the other one we were It's it was uh the other one we were It's it was uh the other one we were looking at it was like a V8. This one's looking at it was like a V8. This one's looking at it was like a V8. This one's like a V like like a forbanger. like a V like like a forbanger. like a V like like a forbanger. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, he didn't know that and I was like >> So, he didn't know that and I was like >> So, he didn't know that and I was like and he picked it and I'm like, "Okay, and he picked it and I'm like, "Okay, and he picked it and I'm like, "Okay, cool." Like, we're driving it on the cool." Like, we're driving it on the cool." Like, we're driving it on the free was like 75. IT WAS LIKE free was like 75. IT WAS LIKE free was like 75. IT WAS LIKE screaming to to make it over this hill. screaming to to make it over this hill. screaming to to make it over this hill. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, >> but that's good. It's good news for us >> but that's good. It's good news for us >> but that's good. It's good news for us as parents. We're like, he's not gonna as parents. We're like, he's not gonna as parents. We're like, he's not gonna be racing until he starts modding it. be racing until he starts modding it. be racing until he starts modding it. Well, yeah, Well, yeah, Well, yeah, >> cuz he's got a job. >> cuz he's got a job. >> cuz he's got a job. >> Well, he's needs a job before he >> Well, he's needs a job before he >> Well, he's needs a job before he >> turbo that thing. Next thing you know, >> turbo that thing. Next thing you know, >> turbo that thing. Next thing you know, you got you got you got >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Yeah, exactly. >> That's what I would do back in the day. >> That's what I would do back in the day. >> That's what I would do back in the day. >> That'll be cool. >> That'll be cool. >> That'll be cool. >> I got a I got a friend of mine. I got to >> I got a I got a friend of mine. I got to >> I got a I got a friend of mine. I got to tell you guys about this success story tell you guys about this success story tell you guys about this success story from creatine. from creatine. from creatine. >> She's a nurse and she does a lot of the >> She's a nurse and she does a lot of the >> She's a nurse and she does a lot of the swing shift crazy stuff that nurses will swing shift crazy stuff that nurses will swing shift crazy stuff that nurses will do. Mhm. do. Mhm. do. Mhm. >> So now she started working out and >> So now she started working out and >> So now she started working out and stuff, but I talked to her about using stuff, but I talked to her about using stuff, but I talked to her about using creatine for the uh mental health and creatine for the uh mental health and creatine for the uh mental health and cognitive benefits because she's like cognitive benefits because she's like cognitive benefits because she's like cuz you know you you know this Justin cuz you know you you know this Justin cuz you know you you know this Justin Courtney used to work these crazy hours. Courtney used to work these crazy hours. Courtney used to work these crazy hours. >> Brutal. So brutal >> Brutal. So brutal >> Brutal. So brutal >> and it just fries your brain. >> and it just fries your brain. >> and it just fries your brain. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So she's been taking creatine and she's >> So she's been taking creatine and she's >> So she's been taking creatine and she's like it is night and day. like it is night and day. like it is night and day. >> It's like my energy I'm not foggy. She's >> It's like my energy I'm not foggy. She's >> It's like my energy I'm not foggy. She's like I think way better. She's like this like I think way better. She's like this like I think way better. She's like this stuff is incredible. stuff is incredible. stuff is incredible. >> Anybody on these like graveyard or swing >> Anybody on these like graveyard or swing >> Anybody on these like graveyard or swing shifts this should be like mandatory. shifts this should be like mandatory. shifts this should be like mandatory. That's a great point. It's not like it's That's a great point. It's not like it's That's a great point. It's not like it's not a stimulant like caffeine. It's not not a stimulant like caffeine. It's not not a stimulant like caffeine. It's not it's like good for you. And so she was it's like good for you. And so she was it's like good for you. And so she was just rave rave review. just rave rave review. just rave rave review. >> It's it's making this is making its way >> It's it's making this is making its way >> It's it's making this is making its way into mainstream now. So I I was at uh into mainstream now. So I I was at uh into mainstream now. So I I was at uh dinner last night with Jason and his dinner last night with Jason and his dinner last night with Jason and his family and his uh sister-in-law and his family and his uh sister-in-law and his family and his uh sister-in-law and his mom were talking about creatine for the mom were talking about creatine for the mom were talking about creatine for the brain. and they're not like fitness brain. and they're not like fitness brain. and they're not like fitness people and stuff like that like I mean people and stuff like that like I mean people and stuff like that like I mean and the only reason why I came up in and the only reason why I came up in and the only reason why I came up in conversation I was there she obviously conversation I was there she obviously conversation I was there she obviously knows that I have the the health podcast knows that I have the the health podcast knows that I have the the health podcast and everything like that and they were and everything like that and they were and everything like that and they were asking questions you know I heard asking questions you know I heard asking questions you know I heard creatine's really good for your brain creatine's really good for your brain creatine's really good for your brain I'm like oh wow so it's it's made its I'm like oh wow so it's it's made its I'm like oh wow so it's it's made its way when I start hearing it like that at way when I start hearing it like that at way when I start hearing it like that at like a dinner party with like regular like a dinner party with like regular like a dinner party with like regular people that aren't like considered people that aren't like considered people that aren't like considered fitness people and knowing that I was fitness people and knowing that I was fitness people and knowing that I was like oh that's super interesting to me like oh that's super interesting to me like oh that's super interesting to me to hear hear to hear hear to hear hear >> you know Legion has capsules >> you know Legion has capsules >> you know Legion has capsules >> oh they have capsules >> oh they have capsules >> oh they have capsules >> yeah you do creatine monohydrate >> yeah you do creatine monohydrate >> yeah you do creatine monohydrate capsules Oh, I didn't know that. Yep. capsules Oh, I didn't know that. Yep. capsules Oh, I didn't know that. Yep. >> Yeah. Yep. That'll be a lot easier. >> Yeah. Yep. That'll be a lot easier. >> Yeah. Yep. That'll be a lot easier. >> I thought it was powder or gummies. I >> I thought it was powder or gummies. I >> I thought it was powder or gummies. I didn't know that. didn't know that. didn't know that. >> You just get the capsules, which makes >> You just get the capsules, which makes >> You just get the capsules, which makes it hella easy. And I think it's like it hella easy. And I think it's like it hella easy. And I think it's like five capsules. I think it's like 5 g or five capsules. I think it's like 5 g or five capsules. I think it's like 5 g or whatever the dose is. Super easy. whatever the dose is. Super easy. whatever the dose is. Super easy. Inexpensive. Just pure creatine on Inexpensive. Just pure creatine on Inexpensive. Just pure creatine on hydrate capsules. Put them in. hydrate capsules. Put them in. hydrate capsules. Put them in. >> Of course. Smart did that. >> Of course. Smart did that. >> Of course. Smart did that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Very smart. They did that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Very smart. They did that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Very smart. They did that. >> Super. >> Super. >> Super. >> Uh I I'm watch I watched I sent it to >> Uh I I'm watch I watched I sent it to >> Uh I I'm watch I watched I sent it to you guys. Guaranteed you guys didn't you guys. Guaranteed you guys didn't you guys. Guaranteed you guys didn't watch it. watch it. watch it. >> But there's this documentary on Prime >> But there's this documentary on Prime >> But there's this documentary on Prime called Universe Designed. called Universe Designed. called Universe Designed. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh, you sent it to us to watch that. I >> Oh, you sent it to us to watch that. I >> Oh, you sent it to us to watch that. I have to check that. It is fire. So, it's have to check that. It is fire. So, it's have to check that. It is fire. So, it's all about like the probability and odds all about like the probability and odds all about like the probability and odds that there isn't an intelligence behind that there isn't an intelligence behind that there isn't an intelligence behind the universe and all the stuff that we the universe and all the stuff that we the universe and all the stuff that we had Steven Meyer on the podcast, which had Steven Meyer on the podcast, which had Steven Meyer on the podcast, which that should be dropping soon, right? that should be dropping soon, right? that should be dropping soon, right? >> Is that dropping soon, Doug? >> Is that dropping soon, Doug? >> Is that dropping soon, Doug? >> Will that be before this episode goes >> Will that be before this episode goes >> Will that be before this episode goes up? up? up? >> Uh, I don't think so. >> Uh, I don't think so. >> Uh, I don't think so. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Right after, I think. >> Right after, I think. >> Right after, I think. >> So, anyway, so and you know, it's so >> So, anyway, so and you know, it's so >> So, anyway, so and you know, it's so it's a great documentary. It talks about it's a great documentary. It talks about it's a great documentary. It talks about all the evidence, all the and it's got all the evidence, all the and it's got all the evidence, all the and it's got all these scientists on there and of all these scientists on there and of all these scientists on there and of course there's apologists and and course there's apologists and and course there's apologists and and philosophers. But, you know, when I was philosophers. But, you know, when I was philosophers. But, you know, when I was an atheist, had somebody come at me uh an atheist, had somebody come at me uh an atheist, had somebody come at me uh with with this explanation, I I with with this explanation, I I with with this explanation, I I definitely wouldn't have been an atheist definitely wouldn't have been an atheist definitely wouldn't have been an atheist anymore. Cuz as they're breaking it anymore. Cuz as they're breaking it anymore. Cuz as they're breaking it down, it's like, whoa, this is the down, it's like, whoa, this is the down, it's like, whoa, this is the probability probability probability >> that uh everything's so finely tuned and >> that uh everything's so finely tuned and >> that uh everything's so finely tuned and so perfect. Like if any one of these uh so perfect. Like if any one of these uh so perfect. Like if any one of these uh >> yeah slightly off >> yeah slightly off >> yeah slightly off >> one of any of these forces is off by a >> one of any of these forces is off by a >> one of any of these forces is off by a little bit. Nothing exists. There is little bit. Nothing exists. There is little bit. Nothing exists. There is there is no planets. There is no there is no planets. There is no there is no planets. There is no >> um life. There is no water. Um and then >> um life. There is no water. Um and then >> um life. There is no water. Um and then DNA uh and how that looks like a DNA uh and how that looks like a DNA uh and how that looks like a computer program. Um and it just it's computer program. Um and it just it's computer program. Um and it just it's just incredible. just incredible. just incredible. >> But they really break it down. It's so >> But they really break it down. It's so >> But they really break it down. It's so good. And so I was watching that and good. And so I was watching that and good. And so I was watching that and then that led me down a rabbit hole. And then that led me down a rabbit hole. And then that led me down a rabbit hole. And I didn't know this by the way. I know I didn't know this by the way. I know I didn't know this by the way. I know you know this Justin. I'm pretty sure. you know this Justin. I'm pretty sure. you know this Justin. I'm pretty sure. Do you guys know that they find seashell Do you guys know that they find seashell Do you guys know that they find seashell fossils on the tops of some of the fossils on the tops of some of the fossils on the tops of some of the tallest mountains in the world? Do you tallest mountains in the world? Do you tallest mountains in the world? Do you guys know that? guys know that? guys know that? >> Actual sea shell fossils. >> Actual sea shell fossils. >> Actual sea shell fossils. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> At one point, these massive mountains >> At one point, these massive mountains >> At one point, these massive mountains were covered in water. were covered in water. were covered in water. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which >> Which >> Which >> Yeah. Evidence. >> Yeah. Evidence. >> Yeah. Evidence. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Which that's like >> Yeah. Which that's like >> Yeah. Which that's like >> speaking of evidence, I I'd sent you >> speaking of evidence, I I'd sent you >> speaking of evidence, I I'd sent you guys Well, since we had such a long car guys Well, since we had such a long car guys Well, since we had such a long car ride, it was like uh let's listen to the ride, it was like uh let's listen to the ride, it was like uh let's listen to the podcast. And like I've been getting into podcast. And like I've been getting into podcast. And like I've been getting into Sean Ryan's podcast quite a bit just Sean Ryan's podcast quite a bit just Sean Ryan's podcast quite a bit just because of the guests he's been having because of the guests he's been having because of the guests he's been having on really good uh I don't remember the on really good uh I don't remember the on really good uh I don't remember the name of this gentleman but he was going name of this gentleman but he was going name of this gentleman but he was going through the exact case for the Shrouded through the exact case for the Shrouded through the exact case for the Shrouded Turin. Turin. Turin. >> Oh yeah, dude. I saw that. >> Oh yeah, dude. I saw that. >> Oh yeah, dude. I saw that. >> So compelling, dude. I and I've been a a >> So compelling, dude. I and I've been a a >> So compelling, dude. I and I've been a a big skeptic, you know, with like it I big skeptic, you know, with like it I big skeptic, you know, with like it I want to that looks really cool and it want to that looks really cool and it want to that looks really cool and it looks like, you know, looks like, you know, looks like, you know, >> it'd be great and it doesn't have to be >> it'd be great and it doesn't have to be >> it'd be great and it doesn't have to be true and it doesn't have to true and it doesn't have to true and it doesn't have to >> doesn't have to be true, but uh I mean >> doesn't have to be true, but uh I mean >> doesn't have to be true, but uh I mean they've gone back and forth with it over they've gone back and forth with it over they've gone back and forth with it over the years. the years. the years. >> Uh because they, you know, took a bit of >> Uh because they, you know, took a bit of >> Uh because they, you know, took a bit of the corner of it for evidence and and the corner of it for evidence and and the corner of it for evidence and and then like carbonated it and it didn't it then like carbonated it and it didn't it then like carbonated it and it didn't it come back like or the organic material come back like or the organic material come back like or the organic material they used. So, I guess he debunked that they used. So, I guess he debunked that they used. So, I guess he debunked that because it's like, you know, the because it's like, you know, the because it's like, you know, the perimeter of it, they have to reinforce perimeter of it, they have to reinforce perimeter of it, they have to reinforce because it's like a a shroud. So, like because it's like a a shroud. So, like because it's like a a shroud. So, like it'll start disintegrating. So, they it'll start disintegrating. So, they it'll start disintegrating. So, they have to like reinforce it with this have to like reinforce it with this have to like reinforce it with this cotton um reinforcing. And so, that's cotton um reinforcing. And so, that's cotton um reinforcing. And so, that's what they were picking up on. But, what they were picking up on. But, what they were picking up on. But, >> uh >> uh >> uh >> the science that they've what they've >> the science that they've what they've >> the science that they've what they've done to analyze it is wildly done to analyze it is wildly done to analyze it is wildly >> insane. Insane. like it and there's >> insane. Insane. like it and there's >> insane. Insane. like it and there's there's dimensions to this like so it's there's dimensions to this like so it's there's dimensions to this like so it's >> and they tried to recreate it >> and they tried to recreate it >> and they tried to recreate it >> like holographically you could like >> like holographically you could like >> like holographically you could like expand it to where it looks like the expand it to where it looks like the expand it to where it looks like the features and everything and and oh my features and everything and and oh my features and everything and and oh my god there was a stat on there I'm not god there was a stat on there I'm not god there was a stat on there I'm not going to remember it but it was an going to remember it but it was an going to remember it but it was an insane stat of like the instant that insane stat of like the instant that insane stat of like the instant that light must have gone through like some light must have gone through like some light must have gone through like some kind of like a nuclear kind of like a nuclear kind of like a nuclear >> Yeah. the intensity of it that didn't >> Yeah. the intensity of it that didn't >> Yeah. the intensity of it that didn't burn it that left this image. burn it that left this image. burn it that left this image. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All of it is like impossible. I know. >> All of it is like impossible. I know. >> All of it is like impossible. I know. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy. It's pretty crazy. >> Impossible. They can't explain it. >> Impossible. They can't explain it. >> Impossible. They can't explain it. >> You know, speaking of shows, since you >> You know, speaking of shows, since you >> You know, speaking of shows, since you guys are talking about stuff like that, guys are talking about stuff like that, guys are talking about stuff like that, I I have a new one that I found, which I I have a new one that I found, which I I have a new one that I found, which is totally different than what we're is totally different than what we're is totally different than what we're talking about right now. It's called talking about right now. It's called talking about right now. It's called Company Retreat. Company Retreat. Company Retreat. >> Have you seen this? It's on Prime. You >> Have you seen this? It's on Prime. You >> Have you seen this? It's on Prime. You all will like this. This is one that I all will like this. This is one that I all will like this. This is one that I feel like all of us will like, feel like all of us will like, feel like all of us will like, especially we all like kind of like especially we all like kind of like especially we all like kind of like office humor and stuff. office humor and stuff. office humor and stuff. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, imagine the office >> So, imagine the office >> So, imagine the office >> uh combined with a reality element to >> uh combined with a reality element to >> uh combined with a reality element to it. Meaning that one of the employees is it. Meaning that one of the employees is it. Meaning that one of the employees is actually a real person but has no idea actually a real person but has no idea actually a real person but has no idea that they are on a show that they're that they are on a show that they're that they are on a show that they're they think. they think. they think. >> Oh, that's hilarious, >> Oh, that's hilarious, >> Oh, that's hilarious, >> bro. It is a brilliant concept. >> bro. It is a brilliant concept. >> bro. It is a brilliant concept. >> So, it's like a prank. >> So, it's like a prank. >> So, it's like a prank. >> It's like a Truman show kind of, but >> It's like a Truman show kind of, but >> It's like a Truman show kind of, but like not even like that. like not even like that. like not even like that. >> Not like Truman. It's more like The >> Not like Truman. It's more like The >> Not like Truman. It's more like The Office. Just imagine one of the office Office. Just imagine one of the office Office. Just imagine one of the office members really thinking they're showing members really thinking they're showing members really thinking they're showing up to a real job, up to a real job, up to a real job, >> but everybody else is an actor, >> but everybody else is an actor, >> but everybody else is an actor, >> but everybody else is an actor and is in >> but everybody else is an actor and is in >> but everybody else is an actor and is in on the the prank on the the prank on the the prank >> and they have everything written of how >> and they have everything written of how >> and they have everything written of how it's all going to go. So they so they it's all going to go. So they so they it's all going to go. So they so they it's so brilliantly done. it's so brilliantly done. it's so brilliantly done. >> Mess with your head so bad. Think you're >> Mess with your head so bad. Think you're >> Mess with your head so bad. Think you're losing your mind. losing your mind. losing your mind. >> It is so good. And I it was I was like >> It is so good. And I it was I was like >> It is so good. And I it was I was like so blown away by how good it was. I so blown away by how good it was. I so blown away by how good it was. I >> What's it on? >> What's it on? >> What's it on? >> So I think it's on Prime. Look up if >> So I think it's on Prime. Look up if >> So I think it's on Prime. Look up if it's on Prime. I think it is. Um it's on Prime. I think it is. Um it's on Prime. I think it is. Um >> they actually I didn't know this until >> they actually I didn't know this until >> they actually I didn't know this until after I found this. We watched Katrina after I found this. We watched Katrina after I found this. We watched Katrina and I binged the whole thing. and I binged the whole thing. and I binged the whole thing. >> Found out that they did an original one >> Found out that they did an original one >> Found out that they did an original one called The Jury and it was the same called The Jury and it was the same called The Jury and it was the same concept. It was a It was a staged like concept. It was a It was a staged like concept. It was a It was a staged like like whole court hearing that and one like whole court hearing that and one like whole court hearing that and one person was was actually a real person. person was was actually a real person. person was was actually a real person. The rest were all actors and they put The rest were all actors and they put The rest were all actors and they put him through a whole like him through a whole like him through a whole like >> dude that'll mess with your >> dude that'll mess with your >> dude that'll mess with your >> dude. It was it's so good and it's >> dude. It was it's so good and it's >> dude. It was it's so good and it's hilarious cuz it's very office type hilarious cuz it's very office type hilarious cuz it's very office type humor, but it's done in such a way where humor, but it's done in such a way where humor, but it's done in such a way where it's so believable that this is this it's so believable that this is this it's so believable that this is this could happen. could happen. could happen. >> Everybody's in on it but you like can >> Everybody's in on it but you like can >> Everybody's in on it but you like can you imagine? So imagine that like you you imagine? So imagine that like you you imagine? So imagine that like you show up to work and everybody's kind of show up to work and everybody's kind of show up to work and everybody's kind of off and doing weird things and you start off and doing weird things and you start off and doing weird things and you start to lose your mind. to lose your mind. to lose your mind. >> And when they interview they interview >> And when they interview they interview >> And when they interview they interview that they interview this guy and they that they interview this guy and they that they interview this guy and they and they it's as an intern and the pitch and they it's as an intern and the pitch and they it's as an intern and the pitch is that it's going they're they're is that it's going they're they're is that it's going they're they're documenting the this process on their documenting the this process on their documenting the this process on their retreat that they're doing and are you retreat that they're doing and are you retreat that they're doing and are you okay being on camera because we we're okay being on camera because we we're okay being on camera because we we're doing a little documentary on our whole doing a little documentary on our whole doing a little documentary on our whole thing. So he's aware that he's being thing. So he's aware that he's being thing. So he's aware that he's being filmed and so he's he's in on being filmed and so he's he's in on being filmed and so he's he's in on being filmed but he thinks it's a documentary filmed but he thinks it's a documentary filmed but he thinks it's a documentary for the work and they're just they're for the work and they're just they're for the work and they're just they're just documenting all of it. So, I mean, just documenting all of it. So, I mean, just documenting all of it. So, I mean, the fact that there's camera the cameras the fact that there's camera the cameras the fact that there's camera the cameras that are around and they they hide a lot that are around and they they hide a lot that are around and they they hide a lot more cameras and there's a lot more to more cameras and there's a lot more to more cameras and there's a lot more to it that he doesn't know about, but he it that he doesn't know about, but he it that he doesn't know about, but he sees cameras and so it's not like a big sees cameras and so it's not like a big sees cameras and so it's not like a big deal. Oh, it's so good. deal. Oh, it's so good. deal. Oh, it's so good. >> It's so >> It's so >> It's so >> That sounds funny. >> That sounds funny. >> That sounds funny. >> It is Prime by the way. >> It is Prime by the way. >> It is Prime by the way. >> It is Prime, right? It is hilarious. >> It is Prime, right? It is hilarious. >> It is Prime, right? It is hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. No, you guys will You guys Yeah. Yeah. No, you guys will You guys Yeah. Yeah. No, you guys will You guys will I can't believe I can't believe will I can't believe I can't believe will I can't believe I can't believe I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it. >> I know. I We just came across it and I >> I know. I We just came across it and I >> I know. I We just came across it and I read what was going and I'm like just read what was going and I'm like just read what was going and I'm like just reading I was like, "Oh, that's funny." reading I was like, "Oh, that's funny." reading I was like, "Oh, that's funny." I'm like, "No way that's true." Like, is I'm like, "No way that's true." Like, is I'm like, "No way that's true." Like, is it one of these reality shows that it's it one of these reality shows that it's it one of these reality shows that it's staged reality? And I went and did like staged reality? And I went and did like staged reality? And I went and did like research and I'm like, "Oh, no. This guy research and I'm like, "Oh, no. This guy research and I'm like, "Oh, no. This guy 100% had no idea all this." 100% had no idea all this." 100% had no idea all this." >> Oh, I'll watch this with Jessica for >> Oh, I'll watch this with Jessica for >> Oh, I'll watch this with Jessica for sure. sure. sure. >> You guys will like it. >> You guys will like it. >> You guys will like it. >> Dude, somebody that So, I know I won't >> Dude, somebody that So, I know I won't >> Dude, somebody that So, I know I won't say too much. I want to talk about who say too much. I want to talk about who say too much. I want to talk about who they are, but some someone I know they are, but some someone I know they are, but some someone I know >> uh started using uh 70. >> uh started using uh 70. >> uh started using uh 70. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Oh, no. Been telling everybody, >> Oh, no. Been telling everybody, >> Oh, no. Been telling everybody, >> listen, you guys, this is so By the way, >> listen, you guys, this is so By the way, >> listen, you guys, this is so By the way, it's made illegal in California. it's made illegal in California. it's made illegal in California. Although apparently you can still buy it Although apparently you can still buy it Although apparently you can still buy it in some places, but it is illegal. I in some places, but it is illegal. I in some places, but it is illegal. I looked it up because when I was talking looked it up because when I was talking looked it up because when I was talking to this person, they're like, "They made to this person, they're like, "They made to this person, they're like, "They made it illegal." So I'm like, "Okay, good." it illegal." So I'm like, "Okay, good." it illegal." So I'm like, "Okay, good." 70oh is so strong. It's like taking a 70oh is so strong. It's like taking a 70oh is so strong. It's like taking a prescription opiate. prescription opiate. prescription opiate. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But it's, you know, from a plant or >> But it's, you know, from a plant or >> But it's, you know, from a plant or whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> She had back pain. This person I know >> She had back pain. This person I know >> She had back pain. This person I know had back pain. Friend of hers said, had back pain. Friend of hers said, had back pain. Friend of hers said, "Hey, try this natural herbal "Hey, try this natural herbal "Hey, try this natural herbal painkiller. It's so strong, by the way, painkiller. It's so strong, by the way, painkiller. It's so strong, by the way, that we'll take this tablet and we'll that we'll take this tablet and we'll that we'll take this tablet and we'll break it up into fours. So, you break it up into fours. So, you break it up into fours. So, you literally break up this little tablet literally break up this little tablet literally break up this little tablet into little corners. And she's like, into little corners. And she's like, into little corners. And she's like, "Oh, man. My back pain went away. I felt "Oh, man. My back pain went away. I felt "Oh, man. My back pain went away. I felt so good. So, I was using it for a so good. So, I was using it for a so good. So, I was using it for a month." She was just using it for a month." She was just using it for a month." She was just using it for a month. month. month. >> She tried to go off severe withdrawal. >> She tried to go off severe withdrawal. >> She tried to go off severe withdrawal. >> She's like, "I have to scale it down." >> She's like, "I have to scale it down." >> She's like, "I have to scale it down." That was a month. That was a month. That was a month. >> A month. >> A month. >> A month. >> Just a month of using this stuff. Which >> Just a month of using this stuff. Which >> Just a month of using this stuff. Which by the way like like so they derive it by the way like like so they derive it by the way like like so they derive it from andratum is addictive. Uh it can be from andratum is addictive. Uh it can be from andratum is addictive. Uh it can be very addictive. very addictive. very addictive. >> It's a concentrated version of it >> It's a concentrated version of it >> It's a concentrated version of it >> but it's basically like uh the >> but it's basically like uh the >> but it's basically like uh the difference betweenratom and 70. difference betweenratom and 70. difference betweenratom and 70. >> 70 is the chemical inside ofratom that >> 70 is the chemical inside ofratom that >> 70 is the chemical inside ofratom that gives you the opiate feeling. gives you the opiate feeling. gives you the opiate feeling. >> It's like you took which is a leaf and >> It's like you took which is a leaf and >> It's like you took which is a leaf and they're like how can we turn how can we they're like how can we turn how can we they're like how can we turn how can we turn this into a straight up turn this into a straight up turn this into a straight up >> what they did was they took the the the >> what they did was they took the the the >> what they did was they took the the the one main chemical of the leaf they one main chemical of the leaf they one main chemical of the leaf they concentrated it into this pressed pill. concentrated it into this pressed pill. concentrated it into this pressed pill. So I I forget what I looked up because I So I I forget what I looked up because I So I I forget what I looked up because I I looked up when I was I looked up when I was I looked up when I was >> like what's the equivalent? How strong >> like what's the equivalent? How strong >> like what's the equivalent? How strong was it? was it? was it? >> Oh, I want to say it's like 10 like 10R >> Oh, I want to say it's like 10 like 10R >> Oh, I want to say it's like 10 like 10R pills which would be like five grams of pills which would be like five grams of pills which would be like five grams of cratom is cratom is cratom is >> 10 would be like one tablet. >> 10 would be like one tablet. >> 10 would be like one tablet. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. It might be more. >> Yeah. Yeah. It might be more. >> Yeah. Yeah. It might be more. >> If somebody's not if somebody uses it >> If somebody's not if somebody uses it >> If somebody's not if somebody uses it for the first time and they took one for the first time and they took one for the first time and they took one tablet they would get severely ill. tablet they would get severely ill. tablet they would get severely ill. >> They could. It depends on how how like >> They could. It depends on how how like >> They could. It depends on how how like are you the type of person that like are you the type of person that like are you the type of person that like it's it's so that would be equivalent to it's it's so that would be equivalent to it's it's so that would be equivalent to basically taking like a double strength basically taking like a double strength basically taking like a double strength Vicodin. Vicodin. Vicodin. >> Yeah. Most people would vomit. >> Yeah. Most people would vomit. >> Yeah. Most people would vomit. >> Yeah. Some people like Katrina would get >> Yeah. Some people like Katrina would get >> Yeah. Some people like Katrina would get sick from that. She's very sensitive. sick from that. She's very sensitive. sick from that. She's very sensitive. Things like that. Other people would Things like that. Other people would Things like that. Other people would not. Uh not. Uh not. Uh >> I wonder if there's been overdoses on 70 >> I wonder if there's been overdoses on 70 >> I wonder if there's been overdoses on 70 and there has to be. and there has to be. and there has to be. >> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I >> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I >> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Um don't know. Um don't know. Um >> the most prevalent is it Florida or >> the most prevalent is it Florida or >> the most prevalent is it Florida or >> all over? >> all over? >> all over? >> All over the US. >> All over the US. >> All over the US. >> Oh, yeah. Dude. Oh, so >> Oh, yeah. Dude. Oh, so >> Oh, yeah. Dude. Oh, so >> I'm in smoke shops everywhere. Gas >> I'm in smoke shops everywhere. Gas >> I'm in smoke shops everywhere. Gas stations, too. stations, too. stations, too. >> So, the feds uh is it the feds? Who who >> So, the feds uh is it the feds? Who who >> So, the feds uh is it the feds? Who who does the the controls the drugs and does the the controls the drugs and does the the controls the drugs and stuff? Is it the fed anyway? stuff? Is it the fed anyway? stuff? Is it the fed anyway? >> They're um like federally looking like >> They're um like federally looking like >> They're um like federally looking like >> FDA, right? They're trying to ban it >> FDA, right? They're trying to ban it >> FDA, right? They're trying to ban it everywhere. everywhere. everywhere. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Because of its strength. What does it >> Because of its strength. What does it >> Because of its strength. What does it say there, Doug? say there, Doug? say there, Doug? >> I'm seeing if there's overdose history. >> I'm seeing if there's overdose history. >> I'm seeing if there's overdose history. Um, Um, Um, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> Yeah. Uh, yeah. We're present in fatal >> Yeah. Uh, yeah. We're present in fatal >> Yeah. Uh, yeah. We're present in fatal and non-fatal overdose cases. Yeah. and non-fatal overdose cases. Yeah. and non-fatal overdose cases. Yeah. >> Yeah. You know, present. It could mean >> Yeah. You know, present. It could mean >> Yeah. You know, present. It could mean they were overdosing something else. they were overdosing something else. they were overdosing something else. >> You know what this reminds me of? >> You know what this reminds me of? >> You know what this reminds me of? Remember remember when um they were like Remember remember when um they were like Remember remember when um they were like this is when back when weed was like this is when back when weed was like this is when back when weed was like super illegal and they were making like super illegal and they were making like super illegal and they were making like like they were taking like THC like they were taking like THC like they were taking like THC chemically altering it a little bit chemically altering it a little bit chemically altering it a little bit >> making it into dabs >> making it into dabs >> making it into dabs >> making it into like no not dabs they >> making it into like no not dabs they >> making it into like no not dabs they were like there was like it was like were like there was like it was like were like there was like it was like it's like weed but it's legal and people it's like weed but it's legal and people it's like weed but it's legal and people were going crazy artificial were going crazy artificial were going crazy artificial >> it wasn't salvia it was literally like >> it wasn't salvia it was literally like >> it wasn't salvia it was literally like they're making synthetic they're making synthetic they're making synthetic >> canabonoid synthetic yeah >> canabonoid synthetic yeah >> canabonoid synthetic yeah >> this is crazy what people what what >> this is crazy what people what what >> this is crazy what people what what they'll do they'll do they'll do >> I've warned everybody I know that to to >> I've warned everybody I know that to to >> I've warned everybody I know that to to be be careful because this stuff is like be be careful because this stuff is like be be careful because this stuff is like >> bro 30 days. She just used a little bit >> bro 30 days. She just used a little bit >> bro 30 days. She just used a little bit for 30 days. She went through with for 30 days. She went through with for 30 days. She went through with >> What's the date? Where are we at? What's >> What's the date? Where are we at? What's >> What's the date? Where are we at? What's the date right now, Doug? the date right now, Doug? the date right now, Doug? >> Uh the 13th. April. >> Uh the 13th. April. >> Uh the 13th. April. >> So, November 11th, I think was the date >> So, November 11th, I think was the date >> So, November 11th, I think was the date that I came off. that I came off. that I came off. >> Oh, everything. >> Oh, everything. >> Oh, everything. >> I literally have hit my first week of >> I literally have hit my first week of >> I literally have hit my first week of like feeling normal. like feeling normal. like feeling normal. >> Dang. >> Dang. >> Dang. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just hit it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just hit it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just hit it. I just up until I just up until I just up until >> That's brutal. >> That's brutal. >> That's brutal. >> Yeah. Yeah. Up until a week ago, I still >> Yeah. Yeah. Up until a week ago, I still >> Yeah. Yeah. Up until a week ago, I still had like jaw clenching and anxiety at had like jaw clenching and anxiety at had like jaw clenching and anxiety at night and uh I've just recently and I night and uh I've just recently and I night and uh I've just recently and I still wouldn't say I'm great, but I I I still wouldn't say I'm great, but I I I still wouldn't say I'm great, but I I I feel the closest to normal that I have feel the closest to normal that I have feel the closest to normal that I have felt like now and this has been the felt like now and this has been the felt like now and this has been the first. So are you so you know some first. So are you so you know some first. So are you so you know some people um who some most people can have people um who some most people can have people um who some most people can have some alcohol not a big deal and then some alcohol not a big deal and then some alcohol not a big deal and then some people become alcoholics and then some people become alcoholics and then some people become alcoholics and then when they stop if they're able to stop when they stop if they're able to stop when they stop if they're able to stop they're like I will not have a single they're like I will not have a single they're like I will not have a single drink. drink. drink. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is is it like that for you? Yeah. >> Is is it like that for you? Yeah. >> Is is it like that for you? Yeah. >> Cuz you're like I'm not even going to >> Cuz you're like I'm not even going to >> Cuz you're like I'm not even going to touch it. touch it. touch it. >> Not even a little >> Not even a little >> Not even a little >> I mean I have it I like everyone thought >> I mean I have it I like everyone thought >> I mean I have it I like everyone thought I was crazy cuz I didn't even throw away I was crazy cuz I didn't even throw away I was crazy cuz I didn't even throw away all the pills. I got all of them just I all the pills. I got all of them just I all the pills. I got all of them just I could I like looking at it. It's a could I like looking at it. It's a could I like looking at it. It's a reminder. Yeah. reminder. Yeah. reminder. Yeah. >> Good for you. >> Good for you. >> Good for you. >> Yeah. that I would like like I don't I >> Yeah. that I would like like I don't I >> Yeah. that I would like like I don't I wouldn't want you couldn't convince me. wouldn't want you couldn't convince me. wouldn't want you couldn't convince me. So different though, right? Like uh So different though, right? Like uh So different though, right? Like uh cannabis alcohol you went through. cannabis alcohol you went through. cannabis alcohol you went through. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like stuff like that. I >> Yeah. Yeah. Like stuff like that. I >> Yeah. Yeah. Like stuff like that. I could totally Oh yeah, I'll have a drink could totally Oh yeah, I'll have a drink could totally Oh yeah, I'll have a drink with you. Oh yeah, I I'll smoke with with you. Oh yeah, I I'll smoke with with you. Oh yeah, I I'll smoke with you. Like I would totally like even you. Like I would totally like even you. Like I would totally like even though I told you guys that I've also though I told you guys that I've also though I told you guys that I've also it's been that long since I had done it's been that long since I had done it's been that long since I had done cannabis. I'm not I didn't announce that cannabis. I'm not I didn't announce that cannabis. I'm not I didn't announce that and say I wouldn't anymore. And I and say I wouldn't anymore. And I and say I wouldn't anymore. And I totally would if like the right totally would if like the right totally would if like the right situation called for it. I would would situation called for it. I would would situation called for it. I would would not be worried about that. But I would not be worried about that. But I would not be worried about that. But I would you couldn't you couldn't pay me enough you couldn't you couldn't pay me enough you couldn't you couldn't pay me enough to indulge in one day of that. to indulge in one day of that. to indulge in one day of that. >> Wow. Oh yeah. No, because it the fact >> Wow. Oh yeah. No, because it the fact >> Wow. Oh yeah. No, because it the fact that I still know that I I have after that I still know that I I have after that I still know that I I have after effects from that that that long. effects from that that that long. effects from that that that long. >> And I also know how easily that you know >> And I also know how easily that you know >> And I also know how easily that you know a little bit turns into a little bit a little bit turns into a little bit a little bit turns into a little bit more. more. more. >> It's all about knowing yourself, isn't >> It's all about knowing yourself, isn't >> It's all about knowing yourself, isn't it? it? it? >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm very aware of of you >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm very aware of of you >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm very aware of of you know and I knew know and I knew know and I knew >> cuz it has a pull on me too. Not like >> cuz it has a pull on me too. Not like >> cuz it has a pull on me too. Not like quite like that but uh but I'm I will quite like that but uh but I'm I will quite like that but uh but I'm I will not I won't go near it because I know not I won't go near it because I know not I won't go near it because I know it's got a pull. it's got a pull. it's got a pull. >> Yeah. The part so the part that makes me >> Yeah. The part so the part that makes me >> Yeah. The part so the part that makes me mad about that is I I went through mad mad about that is I I went through mad mad about that is I I went through mad at myself is and I played this game of at myself is and I played this game of at myself is and I played this game of it's an herb, right? Because I I went it's an herb, right? Because I I went it's an herb, right? Because I I went through, you know, Vicodin stuff like a through, you know, Vicodin stuff like a through, you know, Vicodin stuff like a long time ago and so I and so I know long time ago and so I and so I know long time ago and so I and so I know better. I wouldn't touch that again. better. I wouldn't touch that again. better. I wouldn't touch that again. Like someone offered me one of those be Like someone offered me one of those be Like someone offered me one of those be like no, you know, like or if I needed like no, you know, like or if I needed like no, you know, like or if I needed one, no, I don't even if it was pain or one, no, I don't even if it was pain or one, no, I don't even if it was pain or surgery, I'd still not take it cuz I surgery, I'd still not take it cuz I surgery, I'd still not take it cuz I know my own relationship with that. So know my own relationship with that. So know my own relationship with that. So yet I allowed the catratom thing even yet I allowed the catratom thing even yet I allowed the catratom thing even though I know it works on the opiate though I know it works on the opiate though I know it works on the opiate receptor but it was like this receptor but it was like this receptor but it was like this justification of it's this herbal leaf justification of it's this herbal leaf justification of it's this herbal leaf >> and so but to see what it put me through >> and so but to see what it put me through >> and so but to see what it put me through it's like it was I mean that what I went it's like it was I mean that what I went it's like it was I mean that what I went through with cratom was worse through with cratom was worse through with cratom was worse withdrawals than I ever experienced with withdrawals than I ever experienced with withdrawals than I ever experienced with Vicodin. Now I didn't obviously take as Vicodin. Now I didn't obviously take as Vicodin. Now I didn't obviously take as much for as long as I did which is much for as long as I did which is much for as long as I did which is >> but that just throws in the face of the >> but that just throws in the face of the >> but that just throws in the face of the lie that it's it's a better substitute. lie that it's it's a better substitute. lie that it's it's a better substitute. It's like a total It's like a total It's like a total >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> bull crap. >> bull crap. >> bull crap. >> I know. I mean, there's a lot of PE. So, >> I know. I mean, there's a lot of PE. So, >> I know. I mean, there's a lot of PE. So, I did a I did a full interview with Doug I did a I did a full interview with Doug I did a I did a full interview with Doug Bob on it. He did he um he had me talk Bob on it. He did he um he had me talk Bob on it. He did he um he had me talk all about it. That's all we talked all about it. That's all we talked all about it. That's all we talked about. And I I was I saw some of the about. And I I was I saw some of the about. And I I was I saw some of the people uh in the comments and there's a people uh in the comments and there's a people uh in the comments and there's a lot of people that are saying things and lot of people that are saying things and lot of people that are saying things and I get it because I had an uncle that was I get it because I had an uncle that was I get it because I had an uncle that was hooked on on prescription medication and hooked on on prescription medication and hooked on on prescription medication and therratom helped him merge off of that. therratom helped him merge off of that. therratom helped him merge off of that. And so there there was there was a And so there there was there was a And so there there was there was a handful of people, I'd say, that were handful of people, I'd say, that were handful of people, I'd say, that were commenting on my interview that were commenting on my interview that were commenting on my interview that were saying things like, "Well, not all of saying things like, "Well, not all of saying things like, "Well, not all of us. It's not bad for everybody that were us. It's not bad for everybody that were us. It's not bad for everybody that were defensive about it, you know." defensive about it, you know." defensive about it, you know." >> And so I'm like, "Yeah, no, I I I can >> And so I'm like, "Yeah, no, I I I can >> And so I'm like, "Yeah, no, I I I can understand that you could potentially understand that you could potentially understand that you could potentially use that as a a way to to uh merge off use that as a a way to to uh merge off use that as a a way to to uh merge off of uh you know, like a really strong of uh you know, like a really strong of uh you know, like a really strong oxycottton or Vicodin. And so it could oxycottton or Vicodin. And so it could oxycottton or Vicodin. And so it could be it could be helpful for some people." be it could be helpful for some people." be it could be helpful for some people." And I know that the whole documentary And I know that the whole documentary And I know that the whole documentary that originally sold me on it, that's that originally sold me on it, that's that originally sold me on it, that's how it sold me. You know, I saw a whole how it sold me. You know, I saw a whole how it sold me. You know, I saw a whole documentary on these documentary on these documentary on these >> What's his name's documentary? >> What's his name's documentary? >> What's his name's documentary? >> No, it was before his. Oh, really? Yeah, >> No, it was before his. Oh, really? Yeah, >> No, it was before his. Oh, really? Yeah, it was called the um something. I think it was called the um something. I think it was called the um something. I think I want to say it was a magic leaf or was I want to say it was a magic leaf or was I want to say it was a magic leaf or was that was that his? that was that his? that was that his? >> It was one before him that uh that they >> It was one before him that uh that they >> It was one before him that uh that they that I had seen. that I had seen. that I had seen. >> And that that was what convinced me that >> And that that was what convinced me that >> And that that was what convinced me that oh this is like this, you know, they oh this is like this, you know, they oh this is like this, you know, they give pictures this herbal thing and it's give pictures this herbal thing and it's give pictures this herbal thing and it's all natural and it's helps all these all natural and it's helps all these all natural and it's helps all these people that have opiate addiction and people that have opiate addiction and people that have opiate addiction and things like that. I was like, oh wow, things like that. I was like, oh wow, things like that. I was like, oh wow, this sounds like a really a really good this sounds like a really a really good this sounds like a really a really good thing. And so no different than tea or thing. And so no different than tea or thing. And so no different than tea or caffeine or something else. And it's caffeine or something else. And it's caffeine or something else. And it's like, yeah, that's the thing that like, yeah, that's the thing that like, yeah, that's the thing that trapped me into or led me down this trapped me into or led me down this trapped me into or led me down this >> like three years. But yeah, I know. What >> like three years. But yeah, I know. What >> like three years. But yeah, I know. What do we I don't know how many months. I do we I don't know how many months. I do we I don't know how many months. I tell you what, though. Um uh what's the tell you what, though. Um uh what's the tell you what, though. Um uh what's the name of prescription guy that we just name of prescription guy that we just name of prescription guy that we just had? had? had? >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh sh Dr. Sharer. Um >> Uh sh Dr. Sharer. Um >> Uh sh Dr. Sharer. Um >> yeah, look him up, dog. Cuz uh >> yeah, look him up, dog. Cuz uh >> yeah, look him up, dog. Cuz uh >> um are you his sleep stuff? Is that >> um are you his sleep stuff? Is that >> um are you his sleep stuff? Is that >> of all the stuff? >> of all the stuff? >> of all the stuff? >> Is that the best sleep? Yes. >> Is that the best sleep? Yes. >> Is that the best sleep? Yes. >> I've never tried anything. So here's >> I've never tried anything. So here's >> I've never tried anything. So here's here's the move, here's the move, here's the move, >> bro. That'll make you sleep. >> bro. That'll make you sleep. >> bro. That'll make you sleep. >> Here's the move. >> Here's the move. >> Here's the move. >> Like period. >> Like period. >> Like period. >> You take you you dissolve you dissolve >> You take you you dissolve you dissolve >> You take you you dissolve you dissolve one of the calms first. one of the calms first. one of the calms first. >> So I'll have So I typically my routine >> So I'll have So I typically my routine >> So I'll have So I typically my routine right now is uh I'll get ready. I'll right now is uh I'll get ready. I'll right now is uh I'll get ready. I'll I'll make myself chamomile tea. I'll I'll make myself chamomile tea. I'll I'll make myself chamomile tea. I'll kind of drink the chamomile tea first kind of drink the chamomile tea first kind of drink the chamomile tea first while we're watching a show or something while we're watching a show or something while we're watching a show or something that I'll throw one of those calms under that I'll throw one of those calms under that I'll throw one of those calms under my tongue, let it dissolve completely. my tongue, let it dissolve completely. my tongue, let it dissolve completely. By the time it dissolves, it's set in By the time it dissolves, it's set in By the time it dissolves, it's set in and I can already feel myself like like and I can already feel myself like like and I can already feel myself like like totally chill out. And then I take the totally chill out. And then I take the totally chill out. And then I take the what's the Z triple Z one? what's the Z triple Z one? what's the Z triple Z one? >> Yeah, that's the sleep one. >> Yeah, that's the sleep one. >> Yeah, that's the sleep one. >> Yeah, this the sleep one. Put that under >> Yeah, this the sleep one. Put that under >> Yeah, this the sleep one. Put that under and dissolve. By the time that and dissolve. By the time that and dissolve. By the time that dissolves, I mean, my my eyelids are dissolves, I mean, my my eyelids are dissolves, I mean, my my eyelids are getting heavy. getting heavy. getting heavy. >> And then I just >> And then I just >> And then I just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's the most effective. >> It's the most effective. >> It's the most effective. >> Yeah. Dr. Scott uh share I believe. >> Yeah. Dr. Scott uh share I believe. >> Yeah. Dr. Scott uh share I believe. >> Did that episode go live yet or no? >> Did that episode go live yet or no? >> Did that episode go live yet or no? >> Um let me see. >> Um let me see. >> Um let me see. >> Oh, good. Oh, so it'll have gone up. So >> Oh, good. Oh, so it'll have gone up. So >> Oh, good. Oh, so it'll have gone up. So listen to that episode. So people people listen to that episode. So people people listen to that episode. So people people have heard us talk about that. So yeah, have heard us talk about that. So yeah, have heard us talk about that. So yeah, you you'll hear in the EP if hopefully you you'll hear in the EP if hopefully you you'll hear in the EP if hopefully you heard the episode you heard the episode you heard the episode >> him talk about a stack. I've been taking >> him talk about a stack. I've been taking >> him talk about a stack. I've been taking that since we met him and it's been that since we met him and it's been that since we met him and it's been incredible. Yeah, it's been what I incredible. Yeah, it's been what I incredible. Yeah, it's been what I haven't done consistently that he told haven't done consistently that he told haven't done consistently that he told me to do also is take the methyline blue me to do also is take the methyline blue me to do also is take the methyline blue during the day. And so I really want to during the day. And so I really want to during the day. And so I really want to string like two or three days together string like two or three days together string like two or three days together where I do that where I take the where I do that where I take the where I do that where I take the methyline blue in the in the morning or methyline blue in the in the morning or methyline blue in the in the morning or in the afternoon or whatever and then in the afternoon or whatever and then in the afternoon or whatever and then use those two consistently and see if I use those two consistently and see if I use those two consistently and see if I because he says that that'll help it because he says that that'll help it because he says that that'll help it also. You know what else helps is the also. You know what else helps is the also. You know what else helps is the the tromune uh which is an a it's a the tromune uh which is an a it's a the tromune uh which is an a it's a cortiseps extract and it's not it cortiseps extract and it's not it cortiseps extract and it's not it doesn't make you sleepy but it does doesn't make you sleepy but it does doesn't make you sleepy but it does increase REM stage. increase REM stage. increase REM stage. >> Oh really? >> Oh really? >> Oh really? >> So take that before bed and you'll get >> So take that before bed and you'll get >> So take that before bed and you'll get more REM stage. It's not a sleep more REM stage. It's not a sleep more REM stage. It's not a sleep supplement. It's you supplement. It's you supplement. It's you >> I'm trying to improve REM. >> I'm trying to improve REM. >> I'm trying to improve REM. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> So REM and deep I'm trying that's that's >> So REM and deep I'm trying that's that's >> So REM and deep I'm trying that's that's I mean I'm on you know track I've been I mean I'm on you know track I've been I mean I'm on you know track I've been tracking consistently and uh I'm still tracking consistently and uh I'm still tracking consistently and uh I'm still on the hunt. So, I have yet to do on the hunt. So, I have yet to do on the hunt. So, I have yet to do backto-back 90s. So, that's like uh backto-back 90s. So, that's like uh backto-back 90s. So, that's like uh that's like the goal for me is is trying that's like the goal for me is is trying that's like the goal for me is is trying is trying to do that. But, yeah. No, is trying to do that. But, yeah. No, is trying to do that. But, yeah. No, it's been it's been it's been >> it's been cool. And now I got the the >> it's been cool. And now I got the the >> it's been cool. And now I got the the sauna going. So, I'm going to I'm going sauna going. So, I'm going to I'm going sauna going. So, I'm going to I'm going to I haven't had a yet a nice little to I haven't had a yet a nice little to I haven't had a yet a nice little >> which was the plan was this week that we >> which was the plan was this week that we >> which was the plan was this week that we just had off. But Max got sick. I got just had off. But Max got sick. I got just had off. But Max got sick. I got sick. Everything got thrown out the sick. Everything got thrown out the sick. Everything got thrown out the window. But I was going to like really window. But I was going to like really window. But I was going to like really get my regimen together with like my get my regimen together with like my get my regimen together with like my training, my diet, the sleep stats. training, my diet, the sleep stats. training, my diet, the sleep stats. >> Did you hate that? Oh, you got a week >> Did you hate that? Oh, you got a week >> Did you hate that? Oh, you got a week off. I had sick. Oh, bro. I had I had off. I had sick. Oh, bro. I had I had off. I had sick. Oh, bro. I had I had this whole plan of like we had this this whole plan of like we had this this whole plan of like we had this stuff that I had to take care of with stuff that I had to take care of with stuff that I had to take care of with the cars and that and that all got the cars and that and that all got the cars and that and that all got pushed out and a headache. I'm still pushed out and a headache. I'm still pushed out and a headache. I'm still trying to figure I told you guys that I trying to figure I told you guys that I trying to figure I told you guys that I uh we had like a dead animal that we uh we had like a dead animal that we uh we had like a dead animal that we can't we had to take we had to take the can't we had to take we had to take the can't we had to take we had to take the rover in to get like taken apart. rover in to get like taken apart. rover in to get like taken apart. >> Oh, that's right. >> Oh, that's right. >> Oh, that's right. >> Did they find it? >> Did they find it? >> Did they find it? >> It's still there. We've had it for a >> It's still there. We've had it for a >> It's still there. We've had it for a week. Fed it for a week. week. Fed it for a week. week. Fed it for a week. >> And and it was funny was he he tells >> And and it was funny was he he tells >> And and it was funny was he he tells Katrina like four or five days we have a Katrina like four or five days we have a Katrina like four or five days we have a connection over there and he calls her connection over there and he calls her connection over there and he calls her up and he goes, "Hey," he goes, "Uh, we up and he goes, "Hey," he goes, "Uh, we up and he goes, "Hey," he goes, "Uh, we can't find anything. there's there's can't find anything. there's there's can't find anything. there's there's there's no there's no dead ammo. It's there's no there's no dead ammo. It's there's no there's no dead ammo. It's fine. And the car is fine or what that fine. And the car is fine or what that fine. And the car is fine or what that come pick up. Katrina's like, "No, it's come pick up. Katrina's like, "No, it's come pick up. Katrina's like, "No, it's not there is trust me." And so he's not there is trust me." And so he's not there is trust me." And so he's telling her they're kind of like arguing telling her they're kind of like arguing telling her they're kind of like arguing on the phone and they know each other on the phone and they know each other on the phone and they know each other since high school, right? And so she's since high school, right? And so she's since high school, right? And so she's like arguing with him. And so he's like, like arguing with him. And so he's like, like arguing with him. And so he's like, "Well, let me go. Hold on. I'll go "Well, let me go. Hold on. I'll go "Well, let me go. Hold on. I'll go check." So I guess the car that day had check." So I guess the car that day had check." So I guess the car that day had been sitting out in the sun with the been sitting out in the sun with the been sitting out in the sun with the everything sealed up and he comes back. everything sealed up and he comes back. everything sealed up and he comes back. He's like, "Okay, we're we'll keep it. He's like, "Okay, we're we'll keep it. He's like, "Okay, we're we'll keep it. You come in, get a loaner, we'll get to You come in, get a loaner, we'll get to You come in, get a loaner, we'll get to the bottom of this." Cuz I guess the bottom of this." Cuz I guess the bottom of this." Cuz I guess >> how weird. >> how weird. >> how weird. >> Yeah. We cannot figure out where where >> Yeah. We cannot figure out where where >> Yeah. We cannot figure out where where it's coming from or where it's at. But it's coming from or where it's at. But it's coming from or where it's at. But it is disgusting and it smells like it is disgusting and it smells like it is disgusting and it smells like there's a dead animal somewhere in this there's a dead animal somewhere in this there's a dead animal somewhere in this car, which is so crazy. Like if you know car, which is so crazy. Like if you know car, which is so crazy. Like if you know my cars, I keep everything like clean my cars, I keep everything like clean my cars, I keep everything like clean and tight and like you can't like you and tight and like you can't like you and tight and like you can't like you it's like you would never think that it's like you would never think that it's like you would never think that there's this weird coming in. So they're there's this weird coming in. So they're there's this weird coming in. So they're having to take apart everything having to take apart everything having to take apart everything >> like a piece of fruit or something. >> like a piece of fruit or something. >> like a piece of fruit or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean it if it is it's you it's not >> I mean it if it is it's you it's not >> I mean it if it is it's you it's not where where where >> you've tore out the inside. >> you've tore out the inside. >> you've tore out the inside. >> Oh yeah. They've already we've already >> Oh yeah. They've already we've already >> Oh yeah. They've already we've already removed the seats. Front seats, back removed the seats. Front seats, back removed the seats. Front seats, back seats have all weird. Yeah. So, it's got seats have all weird. Yeah. So, it's got seats have all weird. Yeah. So, it's got to be something glove compartment. to be something glove compartment. to be something glove compartment. >> Burrowed under the carpet. Yeah. >> Burrowed under the carpet. Yeah. >> Burrowed under the carpet. Yeah. Burrowed under the carpet or up in the Burrowed under the carpet or up in the Burrowed under the carpet or up in the chassis or something like that because chassis or something like that because chassis or something like that because >> weird. >> weird. >> weird. >> Yeah. Cannot get to the bottom of it. >> Yeah. Cannot get to the bottom of it. >> Yeah. Cannot get to the bottom of it. And he and he was so certain that And he and he was so certain that And he and he was so certain that there's nothing. We we we check we there's nothing. We we we check we there's nothing. We we we check we pulled the seats up. We can't find pulled the seats up. We can't find pulled the seats up. We can't find anything. And then he put it parked it anything. And then he put it parked it anything. And then he put it parked it out there and he's just like, "Okay, out there and he's just like, "Okay, out there and he's just like, "Okay, >> dude. Mice can get in anything." Crazy. >> dude. Mice can get in anything." Crazy. >> dude. Mice can get in anything." Crazy. That's what we're afraid of is that it's That's what we're afraid of is that it's That's what we're afraid of is that it's like some little tiny little mouse that like some little tiny little mouse that like some little tiny little mouse that got trapped in got trapped in got trapped in >> the AC or something. >> the AC or something. >> the AC or something. >> Yeah. It's somewhere in the in there and >> Yeah. It's somewhere in the in there and >> Yeah. 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Here comes the show. >> Our first caller is Mitchell from Ohio. >> Our first caller is Mitchell from Ohio. >> Our first caller is Mitchell from Ohio. >> What's up, man? >> What's up, man? >> What's up, man? >> How you doing, Mitchell? How can we help >> How you doing, Mitchell? How can we help >> How you doing, Mitchell? How can we help you? you? you? >> Hey guys, thanks for having me on. >> Hey guys, thanks for having me on. >> Hey guys, thanks for having me on. >> You got it. >> You got it. >> You got it. >> All right. What's going on? >> All right. What's going on? >> All right. What's going on? >> Yeah. So, um I give you a little bit of >> Yeah. So, um I give you a little bit of >> Yeah. So, um I give you a little bit of background and then uh thank you my background and then uh thank you my background and then uh thank you my question there at the end. So, I uh I've question there at the end. So, I uh I've question there at the end. So, I uh I've been lifting for about six years. I'm 24 been lifting for about six years. I'm 24 been lifting for about six years. I'm 24 years old. Um, I feel like I'm pretty years old. Um, I feel like I'm pretty years old. Um, I feel like I'm pretty strong uh for my size. I'm 6' 3, about strong uh for my size. I'm 6' 3, about strong uh for my size. I'm 6' 3, about 185 lbs. Um, but I feel like, uh, I'm 185 lbs. Um, but I feel like, uh, I'm 185 lbs. Um, but I feel like, uh, I'm not building the physique that I want. not building the physique that I want. not building the physique that I want. Um, so a little bit more background. I Um, so a little bit more background. I Um, so a little bit more background. I started lifting when I was 18. Um, started lifting when I was 18. Um, started lifting when I was 18. Um, played college baseball, so that's when played college baseball, so that's when played college baseball, so that's when I kind of got started lifting. I was I kind of got started lifting. I was I kind of got started lifting. I was about 175 pounds when I started. Um, and about 175 pounds when I started. Um, and about 175 pounds when I started. Um, and then in that first year, I I put on then in that first year, I I put on then in that first year, I I put on about 10 pounds, I'd say. um and and about 10 pounds, I'd say. um and and about 10 pounds, I'd say. um and and built some size and strength, those built some size and strength, those built some size and strength, those newbie gains. Uh but since then, I I newbie gains. Uh but since then, I I newbie gains. Uh but since then, I I really haven't been able to put on the really haven't been able to put on the really haven't been able to put on the size that I want. Um so I I mean I feel size that I want. Um so I I mean I feel size that I want. Um so I I mean I feel like like I said, I'm strong for my like like I said, I'm strong for my like like I said, I'm strong for my size. Like I but I I still feel super size. Like I but I I still feel super size. Like I but I I still feel super skinny and I just I don't know. I feel skinny and I just I don't know. I feel skinny and I just I don't know. I feel like I'm doing everything right. I'm like I'm doing everything right. I'm like I'm doing everything right. I'm running Maps 15 advanced right now. I'm running Maps 15 advanced right now. I'm running Maps 15 advanced right now. I'm eating about 3,200 calories a day. Um eating about 3,200 calories a day. Um eating about 3,200 calories a day. Um about 190 gram of protein. I just I just about 190 gram of protein. I just I just about 190 gram of protein. I just I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong. So I don't know what I'm doing wrong. So I just want to get your guys' advice on just want to get your guys' advice on just want to get your guys' advice on what I should be doing. what I should be doing. what I should be doing. >> Damn, you're strong. >> Damn, you're strong. >> Damn, you're strong. >> Yeah, you are strong. very strong. >> Yeah, you are strong. very strong. >> Yeah, you are strong. very strong. What's your workout? What's your workout? What's your workout? >> Tell tell us what your workout looks >> Tell tell us what your workout looks >> Tell tell us what your workout looks like. like. like. >> Yeah, I mean I'm running uh 15 advanced >> Yeah, I mean I'm running uh 15 advanced >> Yeah, I mean I'm running uh 15 advanced right now. So uh so I I go to the gym. right now. So uh so I I go to the gym. right now. So uh so I I go to the gym. I'm in there five days a week. I work I'm in there five days a week. I work I'm in there five days a week. I work out with a buddy. Uh so I I I don't do out with a buddy. Uh so I I I don't do out with a buddy. Uh so I I I don't do the full six or seven days. I just kind the full six or seven days. I just kind the full six or seven days. I just kind of throw in the the day six and put that of throw in the the day six and put that of throw in the the day six and put that in uh okay, in uh okay, in uh okay, >> you know, scattered out throughout the >> you know, scattered out throughout the >> you know, scattered out throughout the week uh through those five days. Um but week uh through those five days. Um but week uh through those five days. Um but but through those, you know, I mean, I but through those, you know, I mean, I but through those, you know, I mean, I feel like I'm pushing myself and and feel like I'm pushing myself and and feel like I'm pushing myself and and grinding. I just I'm just not seeing the grinding. I just I'm just not seeing the grinding. I just I'm just not seeing the the growth the muscle growth that I feel the growth the muscle growth that I feel the growth the muscle growth that I feel like I should be. like I should be. like I should be. >> You just got to eat more. Are you are >> You just got to eat more. Are you are >> You just got to eat more. Are you are you playing uh are you playing any ball? you playing uh are you playing any ball? you playing uh are you playing any ball? Are you doing any other activities Are you doing any other activities Are you doing any other activities outside cuz these are your height, your outside cuz these are your height, your outside cuz these are your height, your numbers? Everything's very similar to numbers? Everything's very similar to numbers? Everything's very similar to like kind of where I was at. And I just like kind of where I was at. And I just like kind of where I was at. And I just I was active. I was an active guy. I I was active. I was an active guy. I I was active. I was an active guy. I played pickup basketball all the time. I played pickup basketball all the time. I played pickup basketball all the time. I was lifting. I was wakeboarding. I was was lifting. I was wakeboarding. I was was lifting. I was wakeboarding. I was snowboarding. I was doing all this snowboarding. I was doing all this snowboarding. I was doing all this stuff. Do you do a lot? Are you pretty stuff. Do you do a lot? Are you pretty stuff. Do you do a lot? Are you pretty active guy or what? active guy or what? active guy or what? >> So my job I'm pretty active in my job. I >> So my job I'm pretty active in my job. I >> So my job I'm pretty active in my job. I do carpet cleaning and uh and water do carpet cleaning and uh and water do carpet cleaning and uh and water damage restoration. So, I'm I get about damage restoration. So, I'm I get about damage restoration. So, I'm I get about 8,000 steps a day. Yeah. Um so, I'm not 8,000 steps a day. Yeah. Um so, I'm not 8,000 steps a day. Yeah. Um so, I'm not like sitting down in an office all day, like sitting down in an office all day, like sitting down in an office all day, but I mean, I feel like I'm not I don't but I mean, I feel like I'm not I don't but I mean, I feel like I'm not I don't other than the gym, I don't go out and other than the gym, I don't go out and other than the gym, I don't go out and play ball or anything like that. So, play ball or anything like that. So, play ball or anything like that. So, >> your age, your activity, the amount of >> your age, your activity, the amount of >> your age, your activity, the amount of strength training doing your size, uh strength training doing your size, uh strength training doing your size, uh you're you're you're >> if you 3,200 calories a day is going to >> if you 3,200 calories a day is going to >> if you 3,200 calories a day is going to keep you where you're at. keep you where you're at. keep you where you're at. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're going to be fit and healthy >> And you're going to be fit and healthy >> And you're going to be fit and healthy and you'll be good. uh you want to gain and you'll be good. uh you want to gain and you'll be good. uh you want to gain some size, you got to get you got to get some size, you got to get you got to get some size, you got to get you got to get up to close to 4,000 calories at least up to close to 4,000 calories at least up to close to 4,000 calories at least down. You just got to eat more food, down. You just got to eat more food, down. You just got to eat more food, dude. dude. dude. >> And consistently cuz I if you've done >> And consistently cuz I if you've done >> And consistently cuz I if you've done this like cuz I remember also being here this like cuz I remember also being here this like cuz I remember also being here >> I could I could do a couple days where I >> I could I could do a couple days where I >> I could I could do a couple days where I was hitting 4,000 and then I'd go back was hitting 4,000 and then I'd go back was hitting 4,000 and then I'd go back down. It was just so hard to eat that down. It was just so hard to eat that down. It was just so hard to eat that much, which you can probably you can much, which you can probably you can much, which you can probably you can relate to. relate to. relate to. >> And that's that's really what it is. >> And that's that's really what it is. >> And that's that's really what it is. It's just it's consistently being able It's just it's consistently being able It's just it's consistently being able to cons I I I talk a lot on the podcast to cons I I I talk a lot on the podcast to cons I I I talk a lot on the podcast some of the big hacks for me. Uh, I had some of the big hacks for me. Uh, I had some of the big hacks for me. Uh, I had to get ahead of the calories. I was not to get ahead of the calories. I was not to get ahead of the calories. I was not a big calorie eater in the morning. And a big calorie eater in the morning. And a big calorie eater in the morning. And so starting with something, even if it so starting with something, even if it so starting with something, even if it was like low low calorie, like early was like low low calorie, like early was like low low calorie, like early early in the morning. So I was hungry by early in the morning. So I was hungry by early in the morning. So I was hungry by 9 or 10 in the morning to eat a big 9 or 10 in the morning to eat a big 9 or 10 in the morning to eat a big breakfast and then I'd have another meal breakfast and then I'd have another meal breakfast and then I'd have another meal and then I have lunch. And so if I got and then I have lunch. And so if I got and then I have lunch. And so if I got behind on calories, 4,000 just seemed behind on calories, 4,000 just seemed behind on calories, 4,000 just seemed impossible. If I was good about my impossible. If I was good about my impossible. If I was good about my mornings, I could do that. I don't know mornings, I could do that. I don't know mornings, I could do that. I don't know if that if that resonates with you at if that if that resonates with you at if that if that resonates with you at all, but that was that was my hurdle. all, but that was that was my hurdle. all, but that was that was my hurdle. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, >> it definitely does because I I did >> it definitely does because I I did >> it definitely does because I I did struggle with that before. I'm eating struggle with that before. I'm eating struggle with that before. I'm eating about a 600 calorie meal for breakfast about a 600 calorie meal for breakfast about a 600 calorie meal for breakfast before I go to the gym. Uh kind of on my before I go to the gym. Uh kind of on my before I go to the gym. Uh kind of on my way to the gymish. Uh so so I've kind of way to the gymish. Uh so so I've kind of way to the gymish. Uh so so I've kind of got ahead of that a little bit. It's a got ahead of that a little bit. It's a got ahead of that a little bit. It's a little tough for me cuz with my job I'm little tough for me cuz with my job I'm little tough for me cuz with my job I'm on the road a lot. Yeah. on the road a lot. Yeah. on the road a lot. Yeah. >> Um like bouncing between job sites. Uh >> Um like bouncing between job sites. Uh >> Um like bouncing between job sites. Uh so I don't just with that and and so I don't just with that and and so I don't just with that and and keeping that in mind. I mean is there keeping that in mind. I mean is there keeping that in mind. I mean is there any like I don't know types of hacks or any like I don't know types of hacks or any like I don't know types of hacks or anything like that for me? anything like that for me? anything like that for me? >> Yeah. Here's the deal. So here's the >> Yeah. Here's the deal. So here's the >> Yeah. Here's the deal. So here's the deal. a guy like you. Um, deal. a guy like you. Um, deal. a guy like you. Um, it's it's going to be a it's going to be it's it's going to be a it's going to be it's it's going to be a it's going to be like an effort to put on size through like an effort to put on size through like an effort to put on size through eating. And it is hard. Now, if you just eating. And it is hard. Now, if you just eating. And it is hard. Now, if you just keep eating what you're eating and do keep eating what you're eating and do keep eating what you're eating and do what you're doing, bro, you're crushing. what you're doing, bro, you're crushing. what you're doing, bro, you're crushing. You're you're way stronger than the You're you're way stronger than the You're you're way stronger than the average 24 year old. You're fit. You got average 24 year old. You're fit. You got average 24 year old. You're fit. You got good lean body mass. You're doing good. good lean body mass. You're doing good. good lean body mass. You're doing good. But if you want to gain another 10, 15 But if you want to gain another 10, 15 But if you want to gain another 10, 15 pounds of lean body mass, it's got to be pounds of lean body mass, it's got to be pounds of lean body mass, it's got to be a concentrated effort with food. And if a concentrated effort with food. And if a concentrated effort with food. And if you're on the go, this means you're you're on the go, this means you're you're on the go, this means you're going to you're going to need to meal going to you're going to need to meal going to you're going to need to meal prep. prep. prep. >> Mhm. And so what you do is you have >> Mhm. And so what you do is you have >> Mhm. And so what you do is you have these meals in your car. You keep them these meals in your car. You keep them these meals in your car. You keep them in a in a cooler or something like that. in a in a cooler or something like that. in a in a cooler or something like that. And then when you're, you know, every And then when you're, you know, every And then when you're, you know, every few hours you go out there and you you few hours you go out there and you you few hours you go out there and you you you eat one in in, you know, in 10 you eat one in in, you know, in 10 you eat one in in, you know, in 10 minutes and you go back to work. minutes and you go back to work. minutes and you go back to work. >> Get uh creative with. So if um and and >> Get uh creative with. So if um and and >> Get uh creative with. So if um and and give me your obstacles if you have them give me your obstacles if you have them give me your obstacles if you have them like for example, I know sometimes guys like for example, I know sometimes guys like for example, I know sometimes guys that are working on jobs, they don't that are working on jobs, they don't that are working on jobs, they don't have access to like a microwave. So it's have access to like a microwave. So it's have access to like a microwave. So it's like we'll have like we'll have like we'll have >> So make like uh chicken pasta cold salad >> So make like uh chicken pasta cold salad >> So make like uh chicken pasta cold salad type dishes or like like make type dishes or like like make type dishes or like like make >> Can you have dairy? >> Can you have dairy? >> Can you have dairy? >> Yeah. Yeah, I can. Actually, I drink a >> Yeah. Yeah, I can. Actually, I drink a >> Yeah. Yeah, I can. Actually, I drink a lot of milk actually. So lot of milk actually. So lot of milk actually. So >> full fat full fat dairy cottage cheese >> full fat full fat dairy cottage cheese >> full fat full fat dairy cottage cheese is really good. You can throw some fruit is really good. You can throw some fruit is really good. You can throw some fruit in there, some granola. in there, some granola. in there, some granola. >> Uh the high protein yogurts are really >> Uh the high protein yogurts are really >> Uh the high protein yogurts are really good. Uh and you can add some peanut good. Uh and you can add some peanut good. Uh and you can add some peanut butter for some fat in there. butter for some fat in there. butter for some fat in there. >> Throw some cottage cheese with a scoop >> Throw some cottage cheese with a scoop >> Throw some cottage cheese with a scoop of vanilla whey protein in it and of vanilla whey protein in it and of vanilla whey protein in it and pineapple stirred up. Now you're talking pineapple stirred up. Now you're talking pineapple stirred up. Now you're talking about like a 50 gram high protein and about like a 50 gram high protein and about like a 50 gram high protein and the highfat one like like Sal saying the highfat one like like Sal saying the highfat one like like Sal saying full dairy full dairy cottage cheese. full dairy full dairy cottage cheese. full dairy full dairy cottage cheese. You can keep it cold in your cooler like You can keep it cold in your cooler like You can keep it cold in your cooler like that. It's easy. So you can you can that. It's easy. So you can you can that. It's easy. So you can you can scrap it down. scrap it down. scrap it down. >> Tuna fish. >> Tuna fish. >> Tuna fish. >> There's Yeah. tuna and chicken uh like >> There's Yeah. tuna and chicken uh like >> There's Yeah. tuna and chicken uh like uh cold pasta casserles I used to make. uh cold pasta casserles I used to make. uh cold pasta casserles I used to make. >> So I keep that cold. So you need to you >> So I keep that cold. So you need to you >> So I keep that cold. So you need to you need to prep. You got to have stuff like need to prep. You got to have stuff like need to prep. You got to have stuff like that prepped for you while you're on the that prepped for you while you're on the that prepped for you while you're on the job site. And you just got your little job site. And you just got your little job site. And you just got your little >> four 4,000 calories consistently every >> four 4,000 calories consistently every >> four 4,000 calories consistently every day will not happen on accident. day will not happen on accident. day will not happen on accident. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. It's got to be I'm again I'm >> Right. It's got to be I'm again I'm >> Right. It's got to be I'm again I'm gonna say this again. gonna say this again. gonna say this again. >> You're doing great, bro. You look good. >> You're doing great, bro. You look good. >> You're doing great, bro. You look good. You're fit. You're strong. You're fit. You're strong. You're fit. You're strong. >> So, you don't have to do what we're >> So, you don't have to do what we're >> So, you don't have to do what we're saying. Uh but if it's like, okay, I saying. Uh but if it's like, okay, I saying. Uh but if it's like, okay, I want to I want to gain some muscle. I want to I want to gain some muscle. I want to I want to gain some muscle. I want to put on some size. want to put on some size. want to put on some size. >> It's it's going to be a concentrated >> It's it's going to be a concentrated >> It's it's going to be a concentrated effort every day effort every day effort every day >> for hitting 4,000 calories a day. And >> for hitting 4,000 calories a day. And >> for hitting 4,000 calories a day. And it's going to feel like that it's going to feel like that it's going to feel like that >> you're training for. So 4 4,000 is the >> you're training for. So 4 4,000 is the >> you're training for. So 4 4,000 is the number I should be using. number I should be using. number I should be using. >> Yeah, easily that number. Easily that >> Yeah, easily that number. Easily that >> Yeah, easily that number. Easily that number is what you need to be at. I know number is what you need to be at. I know number is what you need to be at. I know is a lot here. Okay. And it helps uh is a lot here. Okay. And it helps uh is a lot here. Okay. And it helps uh cheat calories for someone like you, but cheat calories for someone like you, but cheat calories for someone like you, but cheat calories in the middle day not cheat calories in the middle day not cheat calories in the middle day not allowed to do. Cheat calories at the end allowed to do. Cheat calories at the end allowed to do. Cheat calories at the end of day allowed. In other words, what I'd of day allowed. In other words, what I'd of day allowed. In other words, what I'd had to do was I'd set a goal of I got to had to do was I'd set a goal of I got to had to do was I'd set a goal of I got to get my, you know, 200 grams of protein get my, you know, 200 grams of protein get my, you know, 200 grams of protein in through whole food good sources. And in through whole food good sources. And in through whole food good sources. And then if I'm still under on calories, I then if I'm still under on calories, I then if I'm still under on calories, I would enjoy a more, you know, satisfying would enjoy a more, you know, satisfying would enjoy a more, you know, satisfying type of dinner, a burrito, a burger and type of dinner, a burrito, a burger and type of dinner, a burrito, a burger and fries. You can get away with that fries. You can get away with that fries. You can get away with that protein, but hit your protein through protein, but hit your protein through protein, but hit your protein through whole natural foods first through the whole natural foods first through the whole natural foods first through the through like good meal prepping that you through like good meal prepping that you through like good meal prepping that you do. And then if you're still like only do. And then if you're still like only do. And then if you're still like only at 3,200 calories and you need more, at 3,200 calories and you need more, at 3,200 calories and you need more, then enjoy those French fries. Enjoy the then enjoy those French fries. Enjoy the then enjoy those French fries. Enjoy the things that will push your calories up. things that will push your calories up. things that will push your calories up. That'll help you out. But make it a goal That'll help you out. But make it a goal That'll help you out. But make it a goal to get the other stuff first before you to get the other stuff first before you to get the other stuff first before you do that. What will what will shoot you do that. What will what will shoot you do that. What will what will shoot you in the foot? Which is what I did early, in the foot? Which is what I did early, in the foot? Which is what I did early, which is like, well, I need a gain, so which is like, well, I need a gain, so which is like, well, I need a gain, so I'll eat whatever. And then at lunch, I I'll eat whatever. And then at lunch, I I'll eat whatever. And then at lunch, I do a drive-thru fast food or I eat a do a drive-thru fast food or I eat a do a drive-thru fast food or I eat a burger. And then that f that would fill burger. And then that f that would fill burger. And then that f that would fill me up. I wouldn't get enough protein. me up. I wouldn't get enough protein. me up. I wouldn't get enough protein. And then I wouldn't eat till four or And then I wouldn't eat till four or And then I wouldn't eat till four or five hours later. Bunch of fat and five hours later. Bunch of fat and five hours later. Bunch of fat and carbs. carbs. carbs. >> And then now and and then now I'm still >> And then now and and then now I'm still >> And then now and and then now I'm still not eating enough calories. And I'm low not eating enough calories. And I'm low not eating enough calories. And I'm low on protein. That's where you'll get on protein. That's where you'll get on protein. That's where you'll get stuck in this kind of like you plateau. stuck in this kind of like you plateau. stuck in this kind of like you plateau. >> It's going to it's going to feel like >> It's going to it's going to feel like >> It's going to it's going to feel like another job. I'm just going to let I'm another job. I'm just going to let I'm another job. I'm just going to let I'm just going to like let you know like just going to like let you know like just going to like let you know like eating 4,000 calories a day every day is eating 4,000 calories a day every day is eating 4,000 calories a day every day is going to feel like another job. So, you going to feel like another job. So, you going to feel like another job. So, you have to prep, plan it, don't skip a have to prep, plan it, don't skip a have to prep, plan it, don't skip a meal, be consistent, meal, be consistent, meal, be consistent, >> and you'll probably gain I mean I I I >> and you'll probably gain I mean I I I >> and you'll probably gain I mean I I I would bet money that you're probably would bet money that you're probably would bet money that you're probably going to gain consistently. You'll pro going to gain consistently. You'll pro going to gain consistently. You'll pro with your calories. You'll probably get with your calories. You'll probably get with your calories. You'll probably get up six, seven pounds of lean body mass. up six, seven pounds of lean body mass. up six, seven pounds of lean body mass. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Doing that. >> Doing that. >> Doing that. >> Oh, yeah. Especially how strong you are. >> Oh, yeah. Especially how strong you are. >> Oh, yeah. Especially how strong you are. You're just missing the calories, dude. You're just missing the calories, dude. You're just missing the calories, dude. That's it. That's it. That's it. >> You're you're already you're lifting >> You're you're already you're lifting >> You're you're already you're lifting good weights right now. You stayed good weights right now. You stayed good weights right now. You stayed You're on the right program. you're You're on the right program. you're You're on the right program. you're doing everything. doing everything. doing everything. >> And just to encourage you, it gets >> And just to encourage you, it gets >> And just to encourage you, it gets easier as you get older. So, yeah, cuz easier as you get older. So, yeah, cuz easier as you get older. So, yeah, cuz right now you're like your metabolism on right now you're like your metabolism on right now you're like your metabolism on fire, bro. When you get in your 30s, fire, bro. When you get in your 30s, fire, bro. When you get in your 30s, you'll be able to build muscle uh at you'll be able to build muscle uh at you'll be able to build muscle uh at lower calories than you are right now. I lower calories than you are right now. I lower calories than you are right now. I remember it was like at at your age, it remember it was like at at your age, it remember it was like at at your age, it was like I had to like feed myself. was like I had to like feed myself. was like I had to like feed myself. >> Yeah. Yeah, it definitely I'm already >> Yeah. Yeah, it definitely I'm already >> Yeah. Yeah, it definitely I'm already thinking about like I meal prep with I thinking about like I meal prep with I thinking about like I meal prep with I make like a breakfast hash for when I make like a breakfast hash for when I make like a breakfast hash for when I get home from work as like a first get home from work as like a first get home from work as like a first dinner thing. So, I got like a bunch of dinner thing. So, I got like a bunch of dinner thing. So, I got like a bunch of things in the fridge just stacked up. things in the fridge just stacked up. things in the fridge just stacked up. So, I'm trying to eat that like with a So, I'm trying to eat that like with a So, I'm trying to eat that like with a bunch of protein in it. But yeah, it's bunch of protein in it. But yeah, it's bunch of protein in it. But yeah, it's just hard to eat that much. And luckily just hard to eat that much. And luckily just hard to eat that much. And luckily my my wife bought me a thermos so I can my my wife bought me a thermos so I can my my wife bought me a thermos so I can actually take like leftovers on the job actually take like leftovers on the job actually take like leftovers on the job now just eating a sandwich and stuff. So now just eating a sandwich and stuff. So now just eating a sandwich and stuff. So it's it's helped. But it's it's helped. But it's it's helped. But >> yeah, it's just hard to eat, man. It's >> yeah, it's just hard to eat, man. It's >> yeah, it's just hard to eat, man. It's like it is like a second job like you like it is like a second job like you like it is like a second job like you >> said. And things like like uh breads and >> said. And things like like uh breads and >> said. And things like like uh breads and some of that too. It'll it'll it'll some of that too. It'll it'll it'll some of that too. It'll it'll it'll it'll fill you up on on something that's it'll fill you up on on something that's it'll fill you up on on something that's a bunch of carbs and you need you need a bunch of carbs and you need you need a bunch of carbs and you need you need high protein, high protein, high protein, >> high calorie, clean sources that your >> high calorie, clean sources that your >> high calorie, clean sources that your body burns through and then you're ready body burns through and then you're ready body burns through and then you're ready to eat again. to eat again. to eat again. >> You know, it's a good bulking meal >> You know, it's a good bulking meal >> You know, it's a good bulking meal that's not even bad. Cold is uh like that's not even bad. Cold is uh like that's not even bad. Cold is uh like ground beef, 80% ground beef, rice, uh ground beef, 80% ground beef, rice, uh ground beef, 80% ground beef, rice, uh and then when you take it out of the and then when you take it out of the and then when you take it out of the cooler, you add some sour cream and some cooler, you add some sour cream and some cooler, you add some sour cream and some salsa on it. Mix it up and it's like a salsa on it. Mix it up and it's like a salsa on it. Mix it up and it's like a cold burrito bowl, but it's like high cold burrito bowl, but it's like high cold burrito bowl, but it's like high calorie, easy to digest, and I could eat calorie, easy to digest, and I could eat calorie, easy to digest, and I could eat that, man. And I could eat that several that, man. And I could eat that several that, man. And I could eat that several times a day, no problem. times a day, no problem. times a day, no problem. >> Yeah, it's a good idea. Not too >> Yeah, it's a good idea. Not too >> Yeah, it's a good idea. Not too expensive either. That's the other expensive either. That's the other expensive either. That's the other thing, too, is like eating all that food thing, too, is like eating all that food thing, too, is like eating all that food breaking the bank, you know. breaking the bank, you know. breaking the bank, you know. >> Oh, no, no, it's expensive, too. >> Oh, no, no, it's expensive, too. >> Oh, no, no, it's expensive, too. >> Frozen. >> Frozen. >> Frozen. >> You got to think bulk right now. >> You got to think bulk right now. >> You got to think bulk right now. >> Frozen vegetables, uh, rice, ground >> Frozen vegetables, uh, rice, ground >> Frozen vegetables, uh, rice, ground beef, beef, beef, >> rice, >> rice, >> rice, >> uh, you know, shredded cheese on it, >> uh, you know, shredded cheese on it, >> uh, you know, shredded cheese on it, sour cream, cottage cheese. Super cheap. sour cream, cottage cheese. Super cheap. sour cream, cottage cheese. Super cheap. Very, very easy. Very, very easy. Very, very easy. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> But you guys think, uh, you think 15 >> But you guys think, uh, you think 15 >> But you guys think, uh, you think 15 advance is all right for me to be advance is all right for me to be advance is all right for me to be running? running? running? >> That's a great program for you, bro. >> That's a great program for you, bro. >> That's a great program for you, bro. Okay. Yeah, the 15. Okay. Yeah, the 15. Okay. Yeah, the 15. >> Yeah, cuz I ran I ran powerlift probably >> Yeah, cuz I ran I ran powerlift probably >> Yeah, cuz I ran I ran powerlift probably when I hit those numbers in the email. I when I hit those numbers in the email. I when I hit those numbers in the email. I was running powerlift and that's when I was running powerlift and that's when I was running powerlift and that's when I saw the most strength game, but again, saw the most strength game, but again, saw the most strength game, but again, it wasn't like size, but I mean I was it wasn't like size, but I mean I was it wasn't like size, but I mean I was missing the missing the missing the >> Have you Have you ran Have you ran Maps >> Have you Have you ran Have you ran Maps >> Have you Have you ran Have you ran Maps 15 powerlift yet? The 15 version. 15 powerlift yet? The 15 version. 15 powerlift yet? The 15 version. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, I didn't even know that. >> No, I didn't even know that. >> No, I didn't even know that. >> We'll we'll we'll send you the maps 15 >> We'll we'll we'll send you the maps 15 >> We'll we'll we'll send you the maps 15 powerlift version. So, that's that'll be powerlift version. So, that's that'll be powerlift version. So, that's that'll be great cuz I I like you the amount of great cuz I I like you the amount of great cuz I I like you the amount of movement you have. You don't need the movement you have. You don't need the movement you have. You don't need the mistake that I made in my 20s was mistake that I made in my 20s was mistake that I made in my 20s was thinking I needed to be training in the thinking I needed to be training in the thinking I needed to be training in the gym for an hour every single day. Like gym for an hour every single day. Like gym for an hour every single day. Like you're running the right program uh to you're running the right program uh to you're running the right program uh to build like running a 15 protocol like build like running a 15 protocol like build like running a 15 protocol like that just trying to get strong. that just trying to get strong. that just trying to get strong. >> You fill your body with 4,000 calories. >> You fill your body with 4,000 calories. >> You fill your body with 4,000 calories. You follow mass 15 power lift. You're You follow mass 15 power lift. You're You follow mass 15 power lift. You're going to build. You will you will put 5 going to build. You will you will put 5 going to build. You will you will put 5 to 10 pounds of muscle on you. We will. to 10 pounds of muscle on you. We will. to 10 pounds of muscle on you. We will. >> Awesome. Yeah. >> Awesome. Yeah. >> Awesome. Yeah. >> So do that. Do that. I'd love for to >> So do that. Do that. I'd love for to >> So do that. Do that. I'd love for to hear back from you if you do it. Stick hear back from you if you do it. Stick hear back from you if you do it. Stick stick with it. It's all in the prep, stick with it. It's all in the prep, stick with it. It's all in the prep, though, dude. Dedicate yourself to prep though, dude. Dedicate yourself to prep though, dude. Dedicate yourself to prep and be ready for it. and be ready for it. and be ready for it. >> Perfect. Yeah. I would love to love to >> Perfect. Yeah. I would love to love to >> Perfect. Yeah. I would love to love to keep you guys updated. So, keep you guys updated. So, keep you guys updated. So, >> all right. >> all right. >> all right. >> Yeah. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate >> Yeah. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate >> Yeah. Well, thank you guys. I appreciate you. Appreciate everything you do. So, you. Appreciate everything you do. So, you. Appreciate everything you do. So, right on, Mitchell. right on, Mitchell. right on, Mitchell. >> Hey, let's have you back on in 60 days. >> Hey, let's have you back on in 60 days. >> Hey, let's have you back on in 60 days. I'll see what happens. I'll see what happens. I'll see what happens. >> We're gonna send that over to you, >> We're gonna send that over to you, >> We're gonna send that over to you, Mitchell. Follow it. Mitchell. Follow it. Mitchell. Follow it. >> Sounds great. Thanks, guys. >> Sounds great. Thanks, guys. >> Sounds great. Thanks, guys. >> Yeah, dude. Eating uh four I know some >> Yeah, dude. Eating uh four I know some >> Yeah, dude. Eating uh four I know some people like need to lose weight, love to people like need to lose weight, love to people like need to lose weight, love to hear that like eating 4,000 calories hear that like eating 4,000 calories hear that like eating 4,000 calories every day. every day. every day. >> Grass is grass is always greener on the >> Grass is grass is always greener on the >> Grass is grass is always greener on the other side. It's You know what? Both are other side. It's You know what? Both are other side. It's You know what? Both are hard. hard. hard. >> You know what I'm saying? Trying to lose >> You know what I'm saying? Trying to lose >> You know what I'm saying? Trying to lose 50 pounds and be lean and skinny is 50 pounds and be lean and skinny is 50 pounds and be lean and skinny is hard. Trying to build and be over 200 hard. Trying to build and be over 200 hard. Trying to build and be over 200 pounds when you're the skinny. It's pounds when you're the skinny. It's pounds when you're the skinny. It's hard. They're both They're both hard. hard. They're both They're both hard. hard. They're both They're both hard. They both take the same It's It's They both take the same It's It's They both take the same It's It's interesting because it's such a interesting because it's such a interesting because it's such a different struggle and the other person different struggle and the other person different struggle and the other person side always says like, "Oh, poor you. side always says like, "Oh, poor you. side always says like, "Oh, poor you. It' be so." But it's like It' be so." But it's like It' be so." But it's like >> it's just as hard for him to to try. >> it's just as hard for him to to try. >> it's just as hard for him to to try. He's got to He's got to do the same type He's got to He's got to do the same type He's got to He's got to do the same type of preparation. He's got to make an of preparation. He's got to make an of preparation. He's got to make an effort effort effort >> on Sunday or whatever day to prep those >> on Sunday or whatever day to prep those >> on Sunday or whatever day to prep those meals. He's got to he's got to resist meals. He's got to he's got to resist meals. He's got to he's got to resist the temptation to drive through the fast the temptation to drive through the fast the temptation to drive through the fast food restaurant and just do something food restaurant and just do something food restaurant and just do something quick and easy and he's got to make the quick and easy and he's got to make the quick and easy and he's got to make the thing that that he prepared in his in thing that that he prepared in his in thing that that he prepared in his in his Tupperware. his Tupperware. his Tupperware. >> It's it's such a it's it's such a full >> It's it's such a it's it's such a full >> It's it's such a it's it's such a full time it is like a full-time job, bro, to time it is like a full-time job, bro, to time it is like a full-time job, bro, to eat that much food every day. And he'd eat that much food every day. And he'd eat that much food every day. And he'd be if he does what he's doing now, he's be if he does what he's doing now, he's be if he does what he's doing now, he's fine. fine. fine. >> But he's like, I want to gain muscles. >> But he's like, I want to gain muscles. >> But he's like, I want to gain muscles. All right, you got to force your body uh All right, you got to force your body uh All right, you got to force your body uh to digest well, all that stuff. to digest well, all that stuff. to digest well, all that stuff. >> But if he if he hits 4,000 consistently >> But if he if he hits 4,000 consistently >> But if he if he hits 4,000 consistently >> Oh, he'll build some nice muscle. >> Oh, he'll build some nice muscle. >> Oh, he'll build some nice muscle. >> Yeah. He'll he he'll be a 200 lb 200 lb >> Yeah. He'll he he'll be a 200 lb 200 lb >> Yeah. He'll he he'll be a 200 lb 200 lb like low body fat percentage jack dude. like low body fat percentage jack dude. like low body fat percentage jack dude. He will. He will. He will. >> Our next caller is Kalia from Florida. >> Our next caller is Kalia from Florida. >> Our next caller is Kalia from Florida. >> Hi Kalia. >> Hi Kalia. >> Hi Kalia. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Hi guys. Wow, this is really surreal. >> Hi guys. Wow, this is really surreal. >> Hi guys. Wow, this is really surreal. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> So, um, just so I don't miss anything or >> So, um, just so I don't miss anything or >> So, um, just so I don't miss anything or trip over any words, I actually wrote trip over any words, I actually wrote trip over any words, I actually wrote wrote everything down if that's okay. wrote everything down if that's okay. wrote everything down if that's okay. >> Yeah, let's go. >> Yeah, let's go. >> Yeah, let's go. >> Yeah, hit us with it. So, growing up, I >> Yeah, hit us with it. So, growing up, I >> Yeah, hit us with it. So, growing up, I was always an overweight kid and I had a was always an overweight kid and I had a was always an overweight kid and I had a really bad relationship with food. And really bad relationship with food. And really bad relationship with food. And looking back now, a lot of that was tied looking back now, a lot of that was tied looking back now, a lot of that was tied to using it as a coping mechanism. And to using it as a coping mechanism. And to using it as a coping mechanism. And it wasn't something that I was it wasn't something that I was it wasn't something that I was intentionally taught, but it was intentionally taught, but it was intentionally taught, but it was definitely something that got passed definitely something that got passed definitely something that got passed down to me. And I carried that with me down to me. And I carried that with me down to me. And I carried that with me for a very long time into adulthood that for a very long time into adulthood that for a very long time into adulthood that put me in a cycle of yo-yo dieting and put me in a cycle of yo-yo dieting and put me in a cycle of yo-yo dieting and losing the same weight over and over losing the same weight over and over losing the same weight over and over again. I had tried everything from again. I had tried everything from again. I had tried everything from vegan, keto, fasting, whatever trend was vegan, keto, fasting, whatever trend was vegan, keto, fasting, whatever trend was out there, I probably did that, too. And out there, I probably did that, too. And out there, I probably did that, too. And it got to a point where I was like, it got to a point where I was like, it got to a point where I was like, "Okay, I'm tired of looking on the "Okay, I'm tired of looking on the "Okay, I'm tired of looking on the internet. I I want to know the truth." internet. I I want to know the truth." internet. I I want to know the truth." So, back in 2019, I originally got my So, back in 2019, I originally got my So, back in 2019, I originally got my NASA certification originally just for NASA certification originally just for NASA certification originally just for myself. I didn't have any intentions of myself. I didn't have any intentions of myself. I didn't have any intentions of really becoming a coach or doing really becoming a coach or doing really becoming a coach or doing anything with it at that time. And over anything with it at that time. And over anything with it at that time. And over time, I started to find a lot more time, I started to find a lot more time, I started to find a lot more balance with food and training and my balance with food and training and my balance with food and training and my body. And then fast forward to 2022, I body. And then fast forward to 2022, I body. And then fast forward to 2022, I had my son and during that pregnancy, I had my son and during that pregnancy, I had my son and during that pregnancy, I gained over 120 lbs. And there was a gained over 120 lbs. And there was a gained over 120 lbs. And there was a couple times I got on the scale and I couple times I got on the scale and I couple times I got on the scale and I was damn near 300. was damn near 300. was damn near 300. I didn't recognize myself in the mirror I didn't recognize myself in the mirror I didn't recognize myself in the mirror anymore, but this time I knew it was anymore, but this time I knew it was anymore, but this time I knew it was different because I knew the things that different because I knew the things that different because I knew the things that I had to do. I just had to give it some I had to do. I just had to give it some I had to do. I just had to give it some time. So, I focused on fueling my body, time. So, I focused on fueling my body, time. So, I focused on fueling my body, lifting consistently and intentionally, lifting consistently and intentionally, lifting consistently and intentionally, and getting stronger. And I ended up and getting stronger. And I ended up and getting stronger. And I ended up losing a lot of the weight and building losing a lot of the weight and building losing a lot of the weight and building some muscle, too. And that also led me some muscle, too. And that also led me some muscle, too. And that also led me to fall in love with powerlifting, and to fall in love with powerlifting, and to fall in love with powerlifting, and I've been competing now for the USAPL I've been competing now for the USAPL I've been competing now for the USAPL for about 2 years. Oh, for about 2 years. Oh, for about 2 years. Oh, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> Fast forward to now, I got reertified in >> Fast forward to now, I got reertified in >> Fast forward to now, I got reertified in 2024, and built my coaching brand, Iron 2024, and built my coaching brand, Iron 2024, and built my coaching brand, Iron Fox Strength. and it's really centered Fox Strength. and it's really centered Fox Strength. and it's really centered around just helping people build around just helping people build around just helping people build strength for the long haul and not for strength for the long haul and not for strength for the long haul and not for just aesthetics. I've also been working just aesthetics. I've also been working just aesthetics. I've also been working with a coach myself. He goes by with a coach myself. He goes by with a coach myself. He goes by Muscleman Marcus on socials and he's Muscleman Marcus on socials and he's Muscleman Marcus on socials and he's helped me a ton with structure direction helped me a ton with structure direction helped me a ton with structure direction and has been a kind of a mentor figure and has been a kind of a mentor figure and has been a kind of a mentor figure for me as well. But I'll be honest, in for me as well. But I'll be honest, in for me as well. But I'll be honest, in the pursuit of chasing a coaching the pursuit of chasing a coaching the pursuit of chasing a coaching career, I've been doing things a little career, I've been doing things a little career, I've been doing things a little bit backwards. I've been in the bit backwards. I've been in the bit backwards. I've been in the restaurant industry for over a decade. restaurant industry for over a decade. restaurant industry for over a decade. I've done everything from dishwasher to I've done everything from dishwasher to I've done everything from dishwasher to management and I've been trying to build management and I've been trying to build management and I've been trying to build a coaching bu business on the side while a coaching bu business on the side while a coaching bu business on the side while still working there. I had some clients still working there. I had some clients still working there. I had some clients here and there, but nothing has felt here and there, but nothing has felt here and there, but nothing has felt super consistent. And a lot of the times super consistent. And a lot of the times super consistent. And a lot of the times when I'm online, I feel like I'm just when I'm online, I feel like I'm just when I'm online, I feel like I'm just yelling into the void because there's so yelling into the void because there's so yelling into the void because there's so many other people doing the same thing. many other people doing the same thing. many other people doing the same thing. >> And recently, >> And recently, >> And recently, the restaurant life just started to feel the restaurant life just started to feel the restaurant life just started to feel like it wasn't fitting me anymore. Like like it wasn't fitting me anymore. Like like it wasn't fitting me anymore. Like I was wearing shoes that didn't fit. So, I was wearing shoes that didn't fit. So, I was wearing shoes that didn't fit. So, I made a big shift. I left that job and I made a big shift. I left that job and I made a big shift. I left that job and I started working at a gym here in St. I started working at a gym here in St. I started working at a gym here in St. Augustine called Anastasia Fitness. I'm Augustine called Anastasia Fitness. I'm Augustine called Anastasia Fitness. I'm at the front desk right now, but they at the front desk right now, but they at the front desk right now, but they told me that any clients I bring in or told me that any clients I bring in or told me that any clients I bring in or get are mine. So, I'm treating it like get are mine. So, I'm treating it like get are mine. So, I'm treating it like an opportunity to build something in an opportunity to build something in an opportunity to build something in person, build relationships with people person, build relationships with people person, build relationships with people and the members and grow from there. So and the members and grow from there. So and the members and grow from there. So my question is, if you were basically my question is, if you were basically my question is, if you were basically starting fresh as a coach in a gym starting fresh as a coach in a gym starting fresh as a coach in a gym environment, trying to build your first environment, trying to build your first environment, trying to build your first real consistent client base, what would real consistent client base, what would real consistent client base, what would you focus the most on? What works when you focus the most on? What works when you focus the most on? What works when it comes to building trust, getting it comes to building trust, getting it comes to building trust, getting those first clients, and creating those first clients, and creating those first clients, and creating momentum for the in-person space? momentum for the in-person space? momentum for the in-person space? Because I have a really big vision for Because I have a really big vision for Because I have a really big vision for where I want to take this and my future. where I want to take this and my future. where I want to take this and my future. I just want to make sure that what I'm I just want to make sure that what I'm I just want to make sure that what I'm focusing on is the right things early focusing on is the right things early focusing on is the right things early on. Yeah. Great. on. Yeah. Great. on. Yeah. Great. >> How many uh how many workouts would you >> How many uh how many workouts would you >> How many uh how many workouts would you say happen in that gym a day? How many say happen in that gym a day? How many say happen in that gym a day? How many people you scan in a day? How many how people you scan in a day? How many how people you scan in a day? How many how many would you say? many would you say? many would you say? >> About 300 on average I see on the >> About 300 on average I see on the >> About 300 on average I see on the headcount on the computer. headcount on the computer. headcount on the computer. >> Okay, that's not bad. That's a decent >> Okay, that's not bad. That's a decent >> Okay, that's not bad. That's a decent amount of people right there if uh amount of people right there if uh amount of people right there if uh >> locally owned and operated too. So, it's >> locally owned and operated too. So, it's >> locally owned and operated too. So, it's like a smaller one of the gyms in town. like a smaller one of the gyms in town. like a smaller one of the gyms in town. >> So, I I like the uh I like the saying >> So, I I like the uh I like the saying >> So, I I like the uh I like the saying that you're in the the learn phase of that you're in the the learn phase of that you're in the the learn phase of your career, not the earn phase of your your career, not the earn phase of your your career, not the earn phase of your career right now. And so what is more career right now. And so what is more career right now. And so what is more valuable than what price you should valuable than what price you should valuable than what price you should charge or how many clients can you you charge or how many clients can you you charge or how many clients can you you get to buy from you is how many people get to buy from you is how many people get to buy from you is how many people can you get in front of you is more can you get in front of you is more can you get in front of you is more important. And the fact that you control important. And the fact that you control important. And the fact that you control the front desk and you're scanning the front desk and you're scanning the front desk and you're scanning people in. I would use that as an people in. I would use that as an people in. I would use that as an opportunity to get those people in front opportunity to get those people in front opportunity to get those people in front of you for a session of training and use of you for a session of training and use of you for a session of training and use that practice to build your skills, that practice to build your skills, that practice to build your skills, build build your ability to convert them build build your ability to convert them build build your ability to convert them into clients and like really focus on into clients and like really focus on into clients and like really focus on that. and then the business will come. that. and then the business will come. that. and then the business will come. If you really sit there and try and If you really sit there and try and If you really sit there and try and strategize on how do I get clients to strategize on how do I get clients to strategize on how do I get clients to pay and what price should I be and pay and what price should I be and pay and what price should I be and should do I build an online presence and should do I build an online presence and should do I build an online presence and sales funnels. It's like right now you sales funnels. It's like right now you sales funnels. It's like right now you have this great opportunity where you have this great opportunity where you have this great opportunity where you are meeting 300 potential leads. Those are meeting 300 potential leads. Those are meeting 300 potential leads. Those are some of the best leads. These are are some of the best leads. These are are some of the best leads. These are people that have already raised their people that have already raised their people that have already raised their hand and said I am going to pay for a hand and said I am going to pay for a hand and said I am going to pay for a membership and show up to a gym because membership and show up to a gym because membership and show up to a gym because I need to change my life some in one I need to change my life some in one I need to change my life some in one form or another. Those are some of the form or another. Those are some of the form or another. Those are some of the best potential clients you could ever best potential clients you could ever best potential clients you could ever ask for. So, getting them in front of ask for. So, getting them in front of ask for. So, getting them in front of you and and and getting them for a free you and and and getting them for a free you and and and getting them for a free personal training session or do free personal training session or do free personal training session or do free assessments with them or teach them a assessments with them or teach them a assessments with them or teach them a powerlifting move or I mean I can think powerlifting move or I mean I can think powerlifting move or I mean I can think of a whole host of things that you can of a whole host of things that you can of a whole host of things that you can start doing for them is great practice start doing for them is great practice start doing for them is great practice and where I would start you first. and where I would start you first. and where I would start you first. >> Yeah, Kia the uh of all the places in >> Yeah, Kia the uh of all the places in >> Yeah, Kia the uh of all the places in the gym, the location that is the best the gym, the location that is the best the gym, the location that is the best by far to potentially get clients is the by far to potentially get clients is the by far to potentially get clients is the front desk. That's the best. Second best front desk. That's the best. Second best front desk. That's the best. Second best is the workout floor, but it's actually is the workout floor, but it's actually is the workout floor, but it's actually a distant second because the most a distant second because the most a distant second because the most difficult part of talking to people or difficult part of talking to people or difficult part of talking to people or getting them to maybe want to work out getting them to maybe want to work out getting them to maybe want to work out with you for a free workout is that with you for a free workout is that with you for a free workout is that initial icebreaking initial icebreaking initial icebreaking >> their attention >> their attention >> their attention >> and they're already coming in and hey, >> and they're already coming in and hey, >> and they're already coming in and hey, how you doing? Scan them in. Boom. Done. how you doing? Scan them in. Boom. Done. how you doing? Scan them in. Boom. Done. It's the best place. And this is why I It's the best place. And this is why I It's the best place. And this is why I trained all my trainers to work the trained all my trainers to work the trained all my trainers to work the front desk. Uh this is what we talk front desk. Uh this is what we talk front desk. Uh this is what we talk about in our course that we have for about in our course that we have for about in our course that we have for coaches and trainers. So, all you got to coaches and trainers. So, all you got to coaches and trainers. So, all you got to do is uh get people to work out with you do is uh get people to work out with you do is uh get people to work out with you for free and then based and then from for free and then based and then from for free and then based and then from there uh you'll get the clients. That's there uh you'll get the clients. That's there uh you'll get the clients. That's it. it. it. >> Just get them to work out. Hey, what are >> Just get them to work out. Hey, what are >> Just get them to work out. Hey, what are you working on today? You want to come you working on today? You want to come you working on today? You want to come back and focus on your deadlift or you back and focus on your deadlift or you back and focus on your deadlift or you want to build a better whatever or let want to build a better whatever or let want to build a better whatever or let me take you let me take you through a me take you let me take you through a me take you let me take you through a workout. I'm a competitive powerlter and workout. I'm a competitive powerlter and workout. I'm a competitive powerlter and then schedule them for a workout and then schedule them for a workout and then schedule them for a workout and that's it. And you do a bunch of those, that's it. And you do a bunch of those, that's it. And you do a bunch of those, you'll get clients, no problem. you'll get clients, no problem. you'll get clients, no problem. >> Yeah. They'll want if you if you become >> Yeah. They'll want if you if you become >> Yeah. They'll want if you if you become if you become the mayor of that gym by if you become the mayor of that gym by if you become the mayor of that gym by knowing all the people that get scanned knowing all the people that get scanned knowing all the people that get scanned in by first name, what they're working in by first name, what they're working in by first name, what they're working on, what they're working into, before on, what they're working into, before on, what they're working into, before you know it, they're you know it, they're you know it, they're >> recommendations. >> recommendations. >> recommendations. >> Whoever whoever is the the owner of that >> Whoever whoever is the the owner of that >> Whoever whoever is the the owner of that gym is going to want you as the trainer gym is going to want you as the trainer gym is going to want you as the trainer training there cuz you're going to that training there cuz you're going to that training there cuz you're going to that I mean that's the key and that's the I mean that's the key and that's the I mean that's the key and that's the focus on that right now. Can I get to focus on that right now. Can I get to focus on that right now. Can I get to know all these people that are coming in know all these people that are coming in know all these people that are coming in by first name, what their goals are, by first name, what their goals are, by first name, what their goals are, what they're trying to do and help them what they're trying to do and help them what they're trying to do and help them in any way in any capacity whatsoever. in any way in any capacity whatsoever. in any way in any capacity whatsoever. Whether that be teaching them the Whether that be teaching them the Whether that be teaching them the technique of a deadlift or a squat, technique of a deadlift or a squat, technique of a deadlift or a squat, whether that be taking them through a whether that be taking them through a whether that be taking them through a full workout, whether that be taking full workout, whether that be taking full workout, whether that be taking them through your NSM squat assessment, them through your NSM squat assessment, them through your NSM squat assessment, I mean, those are all tools that you I mean, those are all tools that you I mean, those are all tools that you already have in your in your high already have in your in your high already have in your in your high service. Like, just pay attention to the service. Like, just pay attention to the service. Like, just pay attention to the quality that you're providing them. All quality that you're providing them. All quality that you're providing them. All of that is going to play the long term of that is going to play the long term of that is going to play the long term so well. Like, you're going to build so well. Like, you're going to build so well. Like, you're going to build that reputation in there and then that's that reputation in there and then that's that reputation in there and then that's just going to keep like escalating and just going to keep like escalating and just going to keep like escalating and and the snowball effect. and the snowball effect. and the snowball effect. >> I'll give you specific numbers, Kalia. >> I'll give you specific numbers, Kalia. >> I'll give you specific numbers, Kalia. If you can if you can schedule yourself If you can if you can schedule yourself If you can if you can schedule yourself 10 to to 20 free workouts a week. Okay. 10 to to 20 free workouts a week. Okay. 10 to to 20 free workouts a week. Okay. So every week if you can get yourself 10 So every week if you can get yourself 10 So every week if you can get yourself 10 to to 20 free workouts within three to to 20 free workouts within three to to 20 free workouts within three months you'll have a full roster of months you'll have a full roster of months you'll have a full roster of clients. clients. clients. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So just do that. Say, can I get myself >> So just do that. Say, can I get myself >> So just do that. Say, can I get myself for next week? Can I book myself 15 for next week? Can I book myself 15 for next week? Can I book myself 15 workouts with people? Like 15 free workouts with people? Like 15 free workouts with people? Like 15 free one-on ones. If you do that after 3 one-on ones. If you do that after 3 one-on ones. If you do that after 3 months, you'll have a you'll have a full months, you'll have a you'll have a full months, you'll have a you'll have a full raw. I So, an idea that comes to mind raw. I So, an idea that comes to mind raw. I So, an idea that comes to mind right away for me with someone like you right away for me with someone like you right away for me with someone like you with a powerlifting background, um I with a powerlifting background, um I with a powerlifting background, um I would literally pick a day, say 30, 45 would literally pick a day, say 30, 45 would literally pick a day, say 30, 45 days out from now and I'm going to do a days out from now and I'm going to do a days out from now and I'm going to do a squat clinic for free squat clinic for free squat clinic for free >> and I'm going to have a signup sheet on >> and I'm going to have a signup sheet on >> and I'm going to have a signup sheet on the front desk and I'm going to say hi the front desk and I'm going to say hi the front desk and I'm going to say hi to everybody and be like, "Hey, would to everybody and be like, "Hey, would to everybody and be like, "Hey, would you like to improve your squat from you like to improve your squat from you like to improve your squat from somebody who's somebody who's somebody who's >> that one lift at a time?" >> that one lift at a time?" >> that one lift at a time?" >> Yeah. and and literally just get try and >> Yeah. and and literally just get try and >> Yeah. and and literally just get try and get 30 people to show up to your squat get 30 people to show up to your squat get 30 people to show up to your squat clinic and teach all the mechanics of clinic and teach all the mechanics of clinic and teach all the mechanics of the squat, how to prep for the squat, the squat, how to prep for the squat, the squat, how to prep for the squat, how to make like what it looks all the how to make like what it looks all the how to make like what it looks all the whatever. whatever. whatever. >> And now I love that idea. >> And now I love that idea. >> And now I love that idea. >> And now all those people that show up to >> And now all those people that show up to >> And now all those people that show up to that or and they get something from you, that or and they get something from you, that or and they get something from you, I guarantee at least three to five of I guarantee at least three to five of I guarantee at least three to five of them will hang out after the hour of them will hang out after the hour of them will hang out after the hour of teaching them and want and those are now teaching them and want and those are now teaching them and want and those are now people that go, I tell you what, let's people that go, I tell you what, let's people that go, I tell you what, let's spend some more time. I'd love to spend spend some more time. I'd love to spend spend some more time. I'd love to spend some time with you oneon-one. Let's book some time with you oneon-one. Let's book some time with you oneon-one. Let's book something next week and you and I can something next week and you and I can something next week and you and I can dig more deep into your reason why your dig more deep into your reason why your dig more deep into your reason why your knee hurts or knee hurts or knee hurts or and start hosting these free little and start hosting these free little and start hosting these free little clinics every other week where you try clinics every other week where you try clinics every other week where you try and get 10, 15, 30 people in for free and get 10, 15, 30 people in for free and get 10, 15, 30 people in for free and those people will turn into and those people will turn into and those people will turn into potential clients for sure and it's potential clients for sure and it's potential clients for sure and it's something you already do. something you already do. something you already do. >> Simple. >> Simple. >> Simple. >> Yeah, I love that idea. >> Yeah, I love that idea. >> Yeah, I love that idea. >> Yeah. And then you probably and then you >> Yeah. And then you probably and then you >> Yeah. And then you probably and then you probably should get in our elite trainer probably should get in our elite trainer probably should get in our elite trainer academy since this is the type of stuff academy since this is the type of stuff academy since this is the type of stuff that we coach and talk about. I mean that we coach and talk about. I mean that we coach and talk about. I mean that's that's that's >> Yeah, I definitely have checked out that >> Yeah, I definitely have checked out that >> Yeah, I definitely have checked out that link. I just haven't pulled the trigger link. I just haven't pulled the trigger link. I just haven't pulled the trigger yet. yet. yet. >> Yeah, I mean that's so just so you know >> Yeah, I mean that's so just so you know >> Yeah, I mean that's so just so you know um when we went out when we pursued that um when we went out when we pursued that um when we went out when we pursued that and decided we were going to build that. and decided we were going to build that. and decided we were going to build that. We did not want to compete with NCSF We did not want to compete with NCSF We did not want to compete with NCSF NASM all the great national searchs that NASM all the great national searchs that NASM all the great national searchs that out there what we saw as a gap is out there what we saw as a gap is out there what we saw as a gap is exactly what you're calling about right exactly what you're calling about right exactly what you're calling about right now is a lot of these do a good job of now is a lot of these do a good job of now is a lot of these do a good job of giving you the fundamentals but don't giving you the fundamentals but don't giving you the fundamentals but don't teach you how to go build a business teach you how to go build a business teach you how to go build a business from ground up. from ground up. from ground up. >> So literally our course is centered >> So literally our course is centered >> So literally our course is centered around that. is like how do you take around that. is like how do you take around that. is like how do you take your little bit of knowledge that you've your little bit of knowledge that you've your little bit of knowledge that you've gained as a personal trainer and then gained as a personal trainer and then gained as a personal trainer and then actually turn that into a business actually turn that into a business actually turn that into a business whether that be inerson virtual we cover whether that be inerson virtual we cover whether that be inerson virtual we cover all that stuff. This is this is what all that stuff. This is this is what all that stuff. This is this is what that whole course is about. So that was that whole course is about. So that was that whole course is about. So that was really the the it's not another NASM or really the the it's not another NASM or really the the it's not another NASM or another NCSF. That's not what you're another NCSF. That's not what you're another NCSF. That's not what you're going to get from our course. You're going to get from our course. You're going to get from our course. You're going to get learning how to build your going to get learning how to build your going to get learning how to build your business and tactics like what we're business and tactics like what we're business and tactics like what we're talking about right now. talking about right now. talking about right now. >> Yeah. I had always heard, you know, you >> Yeah. I had always heard, you know, you >> Yeah. I had always heard, you know, you think you're going to get certified and think you're going to get certified and think you're going to get certified and you're just going to coach people, but you're just going to coach people, but you're just going to coach people, but really it's just a lot of business stuff really it's just a lot of business stuff really it's just a lot of business stuff and I'm just really learning that and and I'm just really learning that and and I'm just really learning that and I'm just like, okay, let's figure it I'm just like, okay, let's figure it I'm just like, okay, let's figure it out. out. out. >> 100% 100. I mean, this is why we thought >> 100% 100. I mean, this is why we thought >> 100% 100. I mean, this is why we thought this what our C was so valuable was this what our C was so valuable was this what our C was so valuable was because it's like there's a ton of great because it's like there's a ton of great because it's like there's a ton of great nationals to learn, you know, nationals to learn, you know, nationals to learn, you know, biomechanics and human physiology and biomechanics and human physiology and biomechanics and human physiology and nutrition. And there's not there's not I nutrition. And there's not there's not I nutrition. And there's not there's not I don't think I think we have plenty of don't think I think we have plenty of don't think I think we have plenty of those. We don't have the not enough of those. We don't have the not enough of those. We don't have the not enough of them talk about, okay, now what do I do them talk about, okay, now what do I do them talk about, okay, now what do I do with this damn thing? You know, I I with this damn thing? You know, I I with this damn thing? You know, I I understand how to help somebody, but understand how to help somebody, but understand how to help somebody, but then how do I actually turn that into a then how do I actually turn that into a then how do I actually turn that into a legitimate business and a livelihood? legitimate business and a livelihood? legitimate business and a livelihood? >> But Kalia, the fact that you work the >> But Kalia, the fact that you work the >> But Kalia, the fact that you work the front desk in a in a relatively busy front desk in a in a relatively busy front desk in a in a relatively busy job, job, job, >> you're in a great position. >> you're in a great position. >> you're in a great position. >> That's like that's that's so much of >> That's like that's that's so much of >> That's like that's that's so much of this is just being able to put yourself this is just being able to put yourself this is just being able to put yourself in that position. You're already there. in that position. You're already there. in that position. You're already there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, the rest is really just follow the >> So, the rest is really just follow the >> So, the rest is really just follow the steps. I you'll you'll who I don't know steps. I you'll you'll who I don't know steps. I you'll you'll who I don't know who the boss is who hired you and stuff who the boss is who hired you and stuff who the boss is who hired you and stuff like that, but you'll blow their mind if like that, but you'll blow their mind if like that, but you'll blow their mind if you all sudden start holding these squat you all sudden start holding these squat you all sudden start holding these squat and deadlift clinics and sh and deadlift clinics and sh and deadlift clinics and sh 30 people start showing up to it. Like I 30 people start showing up to it. Like I 30 people start showing up to it. Like I I would so do this undercover and just I would so do this undercover and just I would so do this undercover and just do my thing and like let them watch you do my thing and like let them watch you do my thing and like let them watch you >> and then watch what happens. Yep. >> and then watch what happens. Yep. >> and then watch what happens. Yep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that sounds great. I definitely >> Yeah, that sounds great. I definitely >> Yeah, that sounds great. I definitely think I'm going to do that for sure. think I'm going to do that for sure. think I'm going to do that for sure. >> All right, cool. Let's see what happens. >> All right, cool. Let's see what happens. >> All right, cool. Let's see what happens. >> Yes. And hopefully we'll see >> Yes. And hopefully we'll see >> Yes. And hopefully we'll see >> Yeah, I will 100%. >> Yeah, I will 100%. >> Yeah, I will 100%. >> Hopefully we'll see you inside of Elite >> Hopefully we'll see you inside of Elite >> Hopefully we'll see you inside of Elite Trainer Academy soon. All right, sounds Trainer Academy soon. All right, sounds Trainer Academy soon. All right, sounds good. Thank you guys. Y good. Thank you guys. Y good. Thank you guys. Y >> I mean, you guys remember we used to >> I mean, you guys remember we used to >> I mean, you guys remember we used to fight over the front desk. Oh, yeah. fight over the front desk. Oh, yeah. fight over the front desk. Oh, yeah. It's It's interesting that that we bring It's It's interesting that that we bring It's It's interesting that that we bring this up now and a lot of uh trainers and this up now and a lot of uh trainers and this up now and a lot of uh trainers and people don't even know people don't even know people don't even know >> the power of just people coming in to >> the power of just people coming in to >> the power of just people coming in to greet you as they come in greet you as they come in greet you as they come in >> and how easy it is to schedule. >> and how easy it is to schedule. >> and how easy it is to schedule. >> Huge advantage. >> Huge advantage. >> Huge advantage. >> Oh god, the front desk is like that's >> Oh god, the front desk is like that's >> Oh god, the front desk is like that's the place to be. And she already works the place to be. And she already works the place to be. And she already works there. So, if she just follows the steps there. So, if she just follows the steps there. So, if she just follows the steps uh and I was concerned, I think within a uh and I was concerned, I think within a uh and I was concerned, I think within a few months she'll have a nice client. few months she'll have a nice client. few months she'll have a nice client. And and I asked how many people they And and I asked how many people they And and I asked how many people they were working out there cuz that that were working out there cuz that that were working out there cuz that that makes a big difference, right? If you're makes a big difference, right? If you're makes a big difference, right? If you're getting 300 leads a day, that's a lot of getting 300 leads a day, that's a lot of getting 300 leads a day, that's a lot of people. That's that's plenty of people people. That's that's plenty of people people. That's that's plenty of people to build a legit business off of. Like, to build a legit business off of. Like, to build a legit business off of. Like, you know, it's different if she was you know, it's different if she was you know, it's different if she was working at some small box that saw 10 working at some small box that saw 10 working at some small box that saw 10 workouts in a day. It's like workouts in a day. It's like workouts in a day. It's like >> it's still the place to be. >> it's still the place to be. >> it's still the place to be. >> Oh, you're right. Far less. >> Oh, you're right. Far less. >> Oh, you're right. Far less. >> Oh, yeah. Just But man, you get you get >> Oh, yeah. Just But man, you get you get >> Oh, yeah. Just But man, you get you get 300 workouts a day. I got 20, 30 people 300 workouts a day. I got 20, 30 people 300 workouts a day. I got 20, 30 people showing up to my free squat class in showing up to my free squat class in showing up to my free squat class in four weeks. Easy. Easily. four weeks. Easy. Easily. four weeks. Easy. Easily. >> Our next caller is Katherine from South >> Our next caller is Katherine from South >> Our next caller is Katherine from South Carolina. Carolina. Carolina. >> Hi, Catherine. >> Hi, Catherine. >> Hi, Catherine. >> Hi, Catherine. >> Hi, Catherine. >> Hi, Catherine. >> Hi. How can we help you? >> Hi. How can we help you? >> Hi. How can we help you? >> So excited to be here. >> So excited to be here. >> So excited to be here. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for coming on. >> Thanks for coming on. >> Thanks for coming on. >> Just wanted to uh give a shout out to my >> Just wanted to uh give a shout out to my >> Just wanted to uh give a shout out to my sister. She listens to y'all every day. sister. She listens to y'all every day. sister. She listens to y'all every day. Um so I'm kind of a fan through her to Um so I'm kind of a fan through her to Um so I'm kind of a fan through her to you. She's on one of your um muscle you. She's on one of your um muscle you. She's on one of your um muscle mommy programs with one of your coaches. mommy programs with one of your coaches. mommy programs with one of your coaches. >> Um she encouraged me to reach out. >> Um she encouraged me to reach out. >> Um she encouraged me to reach out. >> Oh, good. How can we help you? >> Oh, good. How can we help you? >> Oh, good. How can we help you? >> Well, um first I guess one of the main >> Well, um first I guess one of the main >> Well, um first I guess one of the main reasons I wanted to talk to y'all was reasons I wanted to talk to y'all was reasons I wanted to talk to y'all was because I have a son getting married in because I have a son getting married in because I have a son getting married in June. So, it's very motivating for me to June. So, it's very motivating for me to June. So, it's very motivating for me to um be at my best. And I kind of have um be at my best. And I kind of have um be at my best. And I kind of have been weight training off and on for the been weight training off and on for the been weight training off and on for the last year, but really seriously for last year, but really seriously for last year, but really seriously for about eight months. about eight months. about eight months. And then I kicked it into high gear in And then I kicked it into high gear in And then I kicked it into high gear in January. And I've shed about 14 pounds January. And I've shed about 14 pounds January. And I've shed about 14 pounds of fat. And I think that's really, of fat. And I think that's really, of fat. And I think that's really, really, really good. really, really good. really, really good. >> Mhm. It is. Yeah, it is. It is. >> Mhm. It is. Yeah, it is. It is. >> Mhm. It is. Yeah, it is. It is. >> Um I feel like I've kind of just >> Um I feel like I've kind of just >> Um I feel like I've kind of just stagnated now. Um, I've been in a slight stagnated now. Um, I've been in a slight stagnated now. Um, I've been in a slight calorie deficit of about 200 calories calorie deficit of about 200 calories calorie deficit of about 200 calories since January 1st. Um, and it seemed to since January 1st. Um, and it seemed to since January 1st. Um, and it seemed to really be working well. I have plenty of really be working well. I have plenty of really be working well. I have plenty of energy. I recover well. Um, I'm sleeping energy. I recover well. Um, I'm sleeping energy. I recover well. Um, I'm sleeping great at night, but now I'm just kind of great at night, but now I'm just kind of great at night, but now I'm just kind of stopped and I want to keep I want to stopped and I want to keep I want to stopped and I want to keep I want to keep getting I still have some body fat keep getting I still have some body fat keep getting I still have some body fat that I want to shed. So, what do you that I want to shed. So, what do you that I want to shed. So, what do you suggest? suggest? suggest? >> Let's talk about your uh programming. >> Let's talk about your uh programming. >> Let's talk about your uh programming. What are you doing as far as your What are you doing as far as your What are you doing as far as your strength training? I am doing um four strength training? I am doing um four strength training? I am doing um four days a week most weeks uh upper lower days a week most weeks uh upper lower days a week most weeks uh upper lower split. split. split. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay, that's not bad. And are you >> Okay, that's not bad. And are you >> Okay, that's not bad. And are you feeling pretty strong? feeling pretty strong? feeling pretty strong? >> I am actually. There's a couple lifts >> I am actually. There's a couple lifts >> I am actually. There's a couple lifts that I had to regress a little bit in. that I had to regress a little bit in. that I had to regress a little bit in. Um and I was thinking that was probably Um and I was thinking that was probably Um and I was thinking that was probably maybe because I wasn't eating enough. maybe because I wasn't eating enough. maybe because I wasn't eating enough. And then I kind of got over the hump and And then I kind of got over the hump and And then I kind of got over the hump and I was getting stronger in those lifts I was getting stronger in those lifts I was getting stronger in those lifts again. So that's good. again. So that's good. again. So that's good. >> That's good. And you said you're in a >> That's good. And you said you're in a >> That's good. And you said you're in a small deficit. What are your calories? small deficit. What are your calories? small deficit. What are your calories? >> 2,000. between 2,00 and 2100. >> 2,000. between 2,00 and 2100. >> 2,000. between 2,00 and 2100. >> Okay, that's not bad. So, so we we run >> Okay, that's not bad. So, so we we run >> Okay, that's not bad. So, so we we run into a bit of an issue here. Um, you into a bit of an issue here. Um, you into a bit of an issue here. Um, you could go into a deficit, but now you're could go into a deficit, but now you're could go into a deficit, but now you're starting to dip into 1,800,700 calories. starting to dip into 1,800,700 calories. starting to dip into 1,800,700 calories. >> I don't want to do that. >> I don't want to do that. >> I don't want to do that. >> I wouldn't. We don't want you either. >> I wouldn't. We don't want you either. >> I wouldn't. We don't want you either. >> I wouldn't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't do >> I wouldn't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't do >> I wouldn't do that. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. So, that. So, that. So, >> especially I see you're doing 14,000 >> especially I see you're doing 14,000 >> especially I see you're doing 14,000 steps a day. So, you're active. You're steps a day. So, you're active. You're steps a day. So, you're active. You're not a you're not a sedentary person. So, not a you're not a sedentary person. So, not a you're not a sedentary person. So, it's a bit it's a bit it's a bit >> Well, I do I do a 45 minute to an hour >> Well, I do I do a 45 minute to an hour >> Well, I do I do a 45 minute to an hour walk every day. So, that's where a lot walk every day. So, that's where a lot walk every day. So, that's where a lot of those steps are coming from. of those steps are coming from. of those steps are coming from. >> That's Yeah, that's okay. That's still a >> That's Yeah, that's okay. That's still a >> That's Yeah, that's okay. That's still a lot of stats. lot of stats. lot of stats. >> That's still It's still a lot of st >> That's still It's still a lot of st >> That's still It's still a lot of st >> and four days a week of strength >> and four days a week of strength >> and four days a week of strength training. training. training. >> Yeah. Yeah. You're an act you're an >> Yeah. Yeah. You're an act you're an >> Yeah. Yeah. You're an act you're an active person. active person. active person. >> Yeah. You're you're better off building >> Yeah. You're you're better off building >> Yeah. You're you're better off building into into getting leaner than you are into into getting leaner than you are into into getting leaner than you are trying to cut into getting leaner. trying to cut into getting leaner. trying to cut into getting leaner. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, if if you were to gain some lean >> So, if if you were to gain some lean >> So, if if you were to gain some lean body mass and do it in a nice slow body mass and do it in a nice slow body mass and do it in a nice slow consistent way, your body fat percentage consistent way, your body fat percentage consistent way, your body fat percentage will go down. will go down. will go down. >> And what does that look like for me? >> And what does that look like for me? >> And what does that look like for me? >> 2,300 to 2400 calories right now. >> 2,300 to 2400 calories right now. >> 2,300 to 2400 calories right now. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. My son listens to y'all, too. And he was My son listens to y'all, too. And he was My son listens to y'all, too. And he was like, "They're going to tell you to go like, "They're going to tell you to go like, "They're going to tell you to go into a calorie surplus." into a calorie surplus." into a calorie surplus." >> He knows this. >> He knows this. >> He knows this. >> And my sister said that, too. >> And my sister said that, too. >> And my sister said that, too. >> Yes. I mean, that's what you're set up >> Yes. I mean, that's what you're set up >> Yes. I mean, that's what you're set up for. Cuz the the other option is what S for. Cuz the the other option is what S for. Cuz the the other option is what S said, and you already agreed we don't said, and you already agreed we don't said, and you already agreed we don't want to do. And you're right. You don't want to do. And you're right. You don't want to do. And you're right. You don't want to do that. I don't want to take want to do that. I don't want to take want to do that. I don't want to take you to 1,700 calories. That's such a you to 1,700 calories. That's such a you to 1,700 calories. That's such a low. low. low. >> You'll lose weight, but you'll lose >> You'll lose weight, but you'll lose >> You'll lose weight, but you'll lose muscle muscle muscle >> and you won't feel good. You'll you'll >> and you won't feel good. You'll you'll >> and you won't feel good. You'll you'll you'll feel better going up to about you'll feel better going up to about you'll feel better going up to about 2,300 to 24,400 calories. And really 2,300 to 24,400 calories. And really 2,300 to 24,400 calories. And really just focus on getting strong. Don't just focus on getting strong. Don't just focus on getting strong. Don't worry about the scale because you might worry about the scale because you might worry about the scale because you might see the scale go one or two pounds up. see the scale go one or two pounds up. see the scale go one or two pounds up. It's not fat. You didn't put fat on. You It's not fat. You didn't put fat on. You It's not fat. You didn't put fat on. You know what I'm saying? You're eating more know what I'm saying? You're eating more know what I'm saying? You're eating more calories. You're eating more carbs. calories. You're eating more carbs. calories. You're eating more carbs. You're going to have more water. It's a You're going to have more water. It's a You're going to have more water. It's a just don't worry about that. What should just don't worry about that. What should just don't worry about that. What should happen is you should probably see maybe happen is you should probably see maybe happen is you should probably see maybe the scale go up one or two pounds and the scale go up one or two pounds and the scale go up one or two pounds and then it'll level off and you'll feel then it'll level off and you'll feel then it'll level off and you'll feel really good. And then that knows we're really good. And then that knows we're really good. And then that knows we're we're at a good calorie place and really we're at a good calorie place and really we're at a good calorie place and really focus on getting strong. And then the focus on getting strong. And then the focus on getting strong. And then the next sign I'm listen I'm wanting to hear next sign I'm listen I'm wanting to hear next sign I'm listen I'm wanting to hear from you is that you're hungry because from you is that you're hungry because from you is that you're hungry because then that probably means we build then that probably means we build then that probably means we build muscle. I have started getting hungry muscle. I have started getting hungry muscle. I have started getting hungry lately. Good. lately. Good. lately. Good. >> Like um at the in January, it was really >> Like um at the in January, it was really >> Like um at the in January, it was really hard work to eat 160 grams of protein a hard work to eat 160 grams of protein a hard work to eat 160 grams of protein a day and I was having to supplement with day and I was having to supplement with day and I was having to supplement with protein shakes and I just couldn't. It protein shakes and I just couldn't. It protein shakes and I just couldn't. It was like punishment eating all that food was like punishment eating all that food was like punishment eating all that food and now I'm eating that food and I'm a and now I'm eating that food and I'm a and now I'm eating that food and I'm a little bit hungry when I go to bed. little bit hungry when I go to bed. little bit hungry when I go to bed. >> Oh, good sign. >> Oh, good sign. >> Oh, good sign. >> That's good news. When When's the >> That's good news. When When's the >> That's good news. When When's the wedding? How long How long do we have? wedding? How long How long do we have? wedding? How long How long do we have? >> It's June 19th. >> It's June 19th. >> It's June 19th. >> Okay. Okay. So, if you went Oh, we got >> Okay. Okay. So, if you went Oh, we got >> Okay. Okay. So, if you went Oh, we got >> if you went up to 2,300 calories right >> if you went up to 2,300 calories right >> if you went up to 2,300 calories right now, uh I think what would happen is you now, uh I think what would happen is you now, uh I think what would happen is you probably you get stronger, you feel probably you get stronger, you feel probably you get stronger, you feel better, and then you get leaner. better, and then you get leaner. better, and then you get leaner. >> I think if you just stayed there, you >> I think if you just stayed there, you >> I think if you just stayed there, you could actually even go up from there. could actually even go up from there. could actually even go up from there. You could end eventually get up to 25. You could end eventually get up to 25. You could end eventually get up to 25. But I bet if you kept it around 23, 24 But I bet if you kept it around 23, 24 But I bet if you kept it around 23, 24 and just kept doing what you're doing, and just kept doing what you're doing, and just kept doing what you're doing, you would get the look that you're you would get the look that you're you would get the look that you're looking for by June. looking for by June. looking for by June. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just need to be >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just need to be >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just need to be fed more. You're hungry. You're hungry. fed more. You're hungry. You're hungry. fed more. You're hungry. You're hungry. You're hungry, too. That's a good sign. You're hungry, too. That's a good sign. You're hungry, too. That's a good sign. Such a good sign. I mean, I I'd love to Such a good sign. I mean, I I'd love to Such a good sign. I mean, I I'd love to give you a program, too, if we could set give you a program, too, if we could set give you a program, too, if we could set you up with one of our programs. Not you up with one of our programs. Not you up with one of our programs. Not that there's anything wrong with what that there's anything wrong with what that there's anything wrong with what you're doing, but I think you would it you're doing, but I think you would it you're doing, but I think you would it would it would do you well to switch would it would do you well to switch would it would do you well to switch over to something else. over to something else. over to something else. >> Well, that would be great. I am getting >> Well, that would be great. I am getting >> Well, that would be great. I am getting a little weary of trying to figure out a little weary of trying to figure out a little weary of trying to figure out what to do every day. I mean, I I have what to do every day. I mean, I I have what to do every day. I mean, I I have good knowledge, I think, but it gets old good knowledge, I think, but it gets old good knowledge, I think, but it gets old trying to figure it out. trying to figure it out. trying to figure it out. >> You work out in a gym? >> You work out in a gym? >> You work out in a gym? >> I do. I go to the gym. >> I do. I go to the gym. >> I do. I go to the gym. >> All right. We'll send you Muscle Mommy. >> All right. We'll send you Muscle Mommy. >> All right. We'll send you Muscle Mommy. Follow that program. Follow that program. Follow that program. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. That's what my sister's on. >> Okay. That's what my sister's on. >> Okay. That's what my sister's on. >> Yeah. Yeah. You'll love it. >> Yeah. Yeah. You'll love it. >> Yeah. Yeah. You'll love it. >> Yeah. No, you'll do. You'll do great on >> Yeah. No, you'll do. You'll do great on >> Yeah. No, you'll do. You'll do great on this. Um, bump your calories. 2 23 24 this. Um, bump your calories. 2 23 24 this. Um, bump your calories. 2 23 24 stay there and and and give it some stay there and and and give it some stay there and and and give it some time. time. time. >> So, just keep doing that till the >> So, just keep doing that till the >> So, just keep doing that till the wedding. Yep. wedding. Yep. wedding. Yep. >> I I mean, yes. I also think though that >> I I mean, yes. I also think though that >> I I mean, yes. I also think though that you could potentially get hungry and she you could potentially get hungry and she you could potentially get hungry and she could probably still feed a little bit. could probably still feed a little bit. could probably still feed a little bit. We have enough time that she could get We have enough time that she could get We have enough time that she could get all the way up to 26 2700 and then come all the way up to 26 2700 and then come all the way up to 26 2700 and then come back down too. back down too. back down too. >> If you want Look, Catherine, if you want >> If you want Look, Catherine, if you want >> If you want Look, Catherine, if you want specific uh because this is where we specific uh because this is where we specific uh because this is where we where we would want to adjust. where we would want to adjust. where we would want to adjust. >> We could have you coached, too. >> We could have you coached, too. >> We could have you coached, too. >> Yeah, that's right. we would want to >> Yeah, that's right. we would want to >> Yeah, that's right. we would want to adjust you uh as we go because we would adjust you uh as we go because we would adjust you uh as we go because we would ask you questions, see how you're doing, ask you questions, see how you're doing, ask you questions, see how you're doing, whether or not we want to reverse a whether or not we want to reverse a whether or not we want to reverse a little more, whatever. Um you could work little more, whatever. Um you could work little more, whatever. Um you could work with one of our coaches and then they with one of our coaches and then they with one of our coaches and then they could work with you up till the wedding could work with you up till the wedding could work with you up till the wedding and take you through the entire process and take you through the entire process and take you through the entire process and adjust calories uh essentially based and adjust calories uh essentially based and adjust calories uh essentially based on how you feel, your performance, that on how you feel, your performance, that on how you feel, your performance, that kind of stuff. kind of stuff. kind of stuff. >> So, that would be another option. >> So, that would be another option. >> So, that would be another option. >> And the only and the only reason why >> And the only and the only reason why >> And the only and the only reason why that that's better than what we're that that's better than what we're that that's better than what we're saying right now is just because I what saying right now is just because I what saying right now is just because I what I don't know is you the feedback from I don't know is you the feedback from I don't know is you the feedback from you in three weeks. Like I the first you in three weeks. Like I the first you in three weeks. Like I the first thing I would say is boom, I'm going to thing I would say is boom, I'm going to thing I would say is boom, I'm going to take you up to 23 2400. And then I'm take you up to 23 2400. And then I'm take you up to 23 2400. And then I'm going to check in with you and you're going to check in with you and you're going to check in with you and you're going to let me know like I feel this. I going to let me know like I feel this. I going to let me know like I feel this. I notice this. This is going on. And then notice this. This is going on. And then notice this. This is going on. And then from there I'll either say cool stay the from there I'll either say cool stay the from there I'll either say cool stay the course. We're right where I want you to course. We're right where I want you to course. We're right where I want you to be. Or I might go wow. Okay. You could be. Or I might go wow. Okay. You could be. Or I might go wow. Okay. You could eat we could eat some more. Let's go up eat we could eat some more. Let's go up eat we could eat some more. Let's go up another 100 or 200. And then I might So another 100 or 200. And then I might So another 100 or 200. And then I might So that's the only thing that's different that's the only thing that's different that's the only thing that's different is like it's hard for us to predict is like it's hard for us to predict is like it's hard for us to predict >> how you'll be feeling what you'll see in >> how you'll be feeling what you'll see in >> how you'll be feeling what you'll see in 3 4 weeks. Sal is right. You could 3 4 weeks. Sal is right. You could 3 4 weeks. Sal is right. You could probably hover right around there all probably hover right around there all probably hover right around there all the way through and you'll end up you're the way through and you'll end up you're the way through and you'll end up you're going to see improvements all the way going to see improvements all the way going to see improvements all the way till there. I think we have enough till there. I think we have enough till there. I think we have enough runway room runway room runway room >> that if I was like >> that if I was like >> that if I was like >> be much more specific. >> be much more specific. >> be much more specific. >> If I had you that whole time, I think I >> If I had you that whole time, I think I >> If I had you that whole time, I think I would really try and keep ramping the would really try and keep ramping the would really try and keep ramping the calories up till I till I get about 26 calories up till I till I get about 26 calories up till I till I get about 26 27 maybe even 2,800 and then hopefully 27 maybe even 2,800 and then hopefully 27 maybe even 2,800 and then hopefully have a whole month before and then I cut have a whole month before and then I cut have a whole month before and then I cut for a month going down and I take you for a month going down and I take you for a month going down and I take you from like 28 all the way back down to from like 28 all the way back down to from like 28 all the way back down to 2,000 to 22 and you just lean out right 2,000 to 22 and you just lean out right 2,000 to 22 and you just lean out right into the wedding. So that into the wedding. So that into the wedding. So that >> that is kind of what I was hoping we >> that is kind of what I was hoping we >> that is kind of what I was hoping we could do something like that. could do something like that. could do something like that. >> Okay. So >> Okay. So >> Okay. So >> that and that that's where the coach >> that and that that's where the coach >> that and that that's where the coach would help because would help because would help because >> knowing that you're going to respond >> knowing that you're going to respond >> knowing that you're going to respond exactly how I I would think or want you exactly how I I would think or want you exactly how I I would think or want you to. I'm uncertain until we're going to. I'm uncertain until we're going to. I'm uncertain until we're going through that process and there might be through that process and there might be through that process and there might be some adjustments along the way. But you some adjustments along the way. But you some adjustments along the way. But you have enough runway. You're in a you're have enough runway. You're in a you're have enough runway. You're in a you're in a healthy good place in a healthy good place in a healthy good place >> like that. We could totally do something >> like that. We could totally do something >> like that. We could totally do something like that. Um but again like I said like that. Um but again like I said like that. Um but again like I said knowing that for sure but you have both knowing that for sure but you have both knowing that for sure but you have both options. You can do the S way which is options. You can do the S way which is options. You can do the S way which is like hover around those calorie. What like hover around those calorie. What like hover around those calorie. What he's telling you I think is the more he's telling you I think is the more he's telling you I think is the more conservative way where you'll be okay. conservative way where you'll be okay. conservative way where you'll be okay. He knows that he can give you that He knows that he can give you that He knows that he can give you that advice. You'll be better where you than advice. You'll be better where you than advice. You'll be better where you than you are right now. I'm thinking more you are right now. I'm thinking more you are right now. I'm thinking more like well I got enough room. I could like well I got enough room. I could like well I got enough room. I could really push that metabolism and then I really push that metabolism and then I really push that metabolism and then I could really cut her. I could do more could really cut her. I could do more could really cut her. I could do more but then I I would want to be closer to but then I I would want to be closer to but then I I would want to be closer to you to know to see and know so I don't you to know to see and know so I don't you to know to see and know so I don't send you the wrong wrong path. Well, I send you the wrong wrong path. Well, I send you the wrong wrong path. Well, I feel like I'm I have the drive right feel like I'm I have the drive right feel like I'm I have the drive right now. I have good energy. I I really want now. I have good energy. I I really want now. I have good energy. I I really want to keep moving this thing forward. Um to keep moving this thing forward. Um to keep moving this thing forward. Um I I am not tired. I'm not too tired. I I I am not tired. I'm not too tired. I I I am not tired. I'm not too tired. I think going to the gym four times a week think going to the gym four times a week think going to the gym four times a week um is good. I'm not But if there's um is good. I'm not But if there's um is good. I'm not But if there's something more I could do more something more I could do more something more I could do more concentrated to get to the finish line concentrated to get to the finish line concentrated to get to the finish line of June 19th, obviously it's not the of June 19th, obviously it's not the of June 19th, obviously it's not the finish line, but it's, you know, a a finish line, but it's, you know, a a finish line, but it's, you know, a a good goal to work. good goal to work. good goal to work. >> You have a lot of fun with a coach >> You have a lot of fun with a coach >> You have a lot of fun with a coach because it's going to get much more because it's going to get much more because it's going to get much more specific. uh you're going to have a lot specific. uh you're going to have a lot specific. uh you're going to have a lot of fun with seeing how your body of fun with seeing how your body of fun with seeing how your body responds. I think you'd be surprised how responds. I think you'd be surprised how responds. I think you'd be surprised how great your metabolism responds, the great your metabolism responds, the great your metabolism responds, the muscle, the leanness. Uh it's much more muscle, the leanness. Uh it's much more muscle, the leanness. Uh it's much more targeted that way. It's just we'd have targeted that way. It's just we'd have targeted that way. It's just we'd have to we'd want somebody to be with you to to we'd want somebody to be with you to to we'd want somebody to be with you to know when to make those changes. Uh so know when to make those changes. Uh so know when to make those changes. Uh so you can you can you can >> The cool part of going through with a >> The cool part of going through with a >> The cool part of going through with a coach is you'll get the you'll have coach is you'll get the you'll have coach is you'll get the you'll have these strategies to use forever. Yeah. these strategies to use forever. Yeah. these strategies to use forever. Yeah. >> You know, what you'll learn about your >> You know, what you'll learn about your >> You know, what you'll learn about your body and what they'll learn going body and what they'll learn going body and what they'll learn going through it with you is like how you through it with you is like how you through it with you is like how you respond to that. Everybody's different. respond to that. Everybody's different. respond to that. Everybody's different. You know, some people respond really You know, some people respond really You know, some people respond really well to the calorie surplus. Some don't well to the calorie surplus. Some don't well to the calorie surplus. Some don't so much. And I have no idea if that's so much. And I have no idea if that's so much. And I have no idea if that's going to present any sort of challenges going to present any sort of challenges going to present any sort of challenges mentally, too. And that's all part of mentally, too. And that's all part of mentally, too. And that's all part of coaching is like listening to my client coaching is like listening to my client coaching is like listening to my client tell me what they're going through, what tell me what they're going through, what tell me what they're going through, what they're feeling, what they're feeling, they're feeling, what they're feeling, they're feeling, what they're feeling, and then trying to coach them on what and then trying to coach them on what and then trying to coach them on what what exactly what they're they're what exactly what they're they're what exactly what they're they're reading. reading. reading. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, we can have someone what we'll do >> So, we can have someone what we'll do >> So, we can have someone what we'll do we'll have someone uh call you when we we'll have someone uh call you when we we'll have someone uh call you when we hang up right now. We'll have one of our hang up right now. We'll have one of our hang up right now. We'll have one of our coaches kind of lay out what that would coaches kind of lay out what that would coaches kind of lay out what that would look like for you and hopefully we'll look like for you and hopefully we'll look like for you and hopefully we'll see you in there. All right, that's see you in there. All right, that's see you in there. All right, that's great. Thank you so much. great. Thank you so much. great. Thank you so much. >> All right, thanks for calling in. See >> All right, thanks for calling in. See >> All right, thanks for calling in. See you, Catherine. you, Catherine. you, Catherine. >> All right, thanks. Bye. >> All right, thanks. Bye. >> All right, thanks. Bye. >> She's in good place. >> She's in good place. >> She's in good place. >> Yeah, I mean, you gave you gave the the >> Yeah, I mean, you gave you gave the the >> Yeah, I mean, you gave you gave the the best conservative. best conservative. best conservative. >> Very conservative answer. >> Very conservative answer. >> Very conservative answer. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> but if you want like focus, targeted, >> but if you want like focus, targeted, >> but if you want like focus, targeted, like make it happen. Yeah. like make it happen. Yeah. like make it happen. Yeah. >> Yeah. I can't help but I can't help but >> Yeah. I can't help but I can't help but >> Yeah. I can't help but I can't help but go like go like go like >> No, I don't know how she's going to be >> No, I don't know how she's going to be >> No, I don't know how she's going to be informed. informed. informed. >> I got a lot of time. I got a lot of >> I got a lot of time. I got a lot of >> I got a lot of time. I got a lot of time. She's in a good a good place right time. She's in a good a good place right time. She's in a good a good place right now. I would like to ramp her up way now. I would like to ramp her up way now. I would like to ramp her up way more aggressively to like 2,800 plus more aggressively to like 2,800 plus more aggressively to like 2,800 plus calories and then put her on kind of an calories and then put her on kind of an calories and then put her on kind of an aggressive cut for 4 weeks. And what and aggressive cut for 4 weeks. And what and aggressive cut for 4 weeks. And what and by the way, aggressive cut will look by the way, aggressive cut will look by the way, aggressive cut will look where her at where she's at in calories where her at where she's at in calories where her at where she's at in calories back down where she's at. back down where she's at. back down where she's at. >> Yeah. But but but after we've sped that >> Yeah. But but but after we've sped that >> Yeah. But but but after we've sped that metabolism up, built, you know, five, metabolism up, built, you know, five, metabolism up, built, you know, five, six pounds of muscle on her, lifted, get six pounds of muscle on her, lifted, get six pounds of muscle on her, lifted, get her all her all her lifts up, and then her all her all her lifts up, and then her all her all her lifts up, and then just watch herself lean out going into just watch herself lean out going into just watch herself lean out going into the wedding, you know. the wedding, you know. the wedding, you know. >> Our next caller is April from Wisconsin. >> Our next caller is April from Wisconsin. >> Our next caller is April from Wisconsin. >> Hey, welcome back. >> Hey, welcome back. >> Hey, welcome back. >> Hey, how you doing, April? >> Hey, how you doing, April? >> Hey, how you doing, April? >> How you doing? Hey guys, I'm glad to be >> How you doing? Hey guys, I'm glad to be >> How you doing? Hey guys, I'm glad to be back. Um, I emailed I think it was Doug back. Um, I emailed I think it was Doug back. Um, I emailed I think it was Doug or someone a couple weeks ago. I just or someone a couple weeks ago. I just or someone a couple weeks ago. I just wanted to give you guys an update wanted to give you guys an update wanted to give you guys an update because I know the last two times we because I know the last two times we because I know the last two times we spoke um you guys wereounding me to do spoke um you guys wereounding me to do spoke um you guys wereounding me to do powerlift and I was too stubborn to powerlift and I was too stubborn to powerlift and I was too stubborn to listen. So listen. So listen. So >> So what happened? >> So what happened? >> So what happened? >> Uh I ran it and um you guys were right. >> Uh I ran it and um you guys were right. >> Uh I ran it and um you guys were right. >> That's weird. That's weird. That's >> That's weird. That's weird. That's >> That's weird. That's weird. That's weird. weird. weird. >> I know. I know. Uh so I'll take I'll >> I know. I know. Uh so I'll take I'll >> I know. I know. Uh so I'll take I'll take the the loss on that one. So uh in take the the loss on that one. So uh in take the the loss on that one. So uh in October after we spoke I was like okay October after we spoke I was like okay October after we spoke I was like okay I'm going to try it. Um ran the program I'm going to try it. Um ran the program I'm going to try it. Um ran the program and what is it? It's now end of March and what is it? It's now end of March and what is it? It's now end of March and I can happily say that I have and I can happily say that I have and I can happily say that I have visible muscle. visible muscle. visible muscle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh it's pretty awesome to finally >> And uh it's pretty awesome to finally >> And uh it's pretty awesome to finally see the progress that I've made. Um see the progress that I've made. Um see the progress that I've made. Um after October I actually stopped after October I actually stopped after October I actually stopped tracking my calories. I stopped weighing tracking my calories. I stopped weighing tracking my calories. I stopped weighing myself. Um, I decided the only numbers I myself. Um, I decided the only numbers I myself. Um, I decided the only numbers I were I was going to focus on was the were I was going to focus on was the were I was going to focus on was the weights I was adding to the bar. Uh, the weights I was adding to the bar. Uh, the weights I was adding to the bar. Uh, the dumbbells that I was grabbing. So, no dumbbells that I was grabbing. So, no dumbbells that I was grabbing. So, no longer, you know, tied to the scale. longer, you know, tied to the scale. longer, you know, tied to the scale. Yes. Um, so it's it's been really cool. Yes. Um, so it's it's been really cool. Yes. Um, so it's it's been really cool. Um, my husband told me that, um, my legs Um, my husband told me that, um, my legs Um, my husband told me that, um, my legs look bigger, my butt got bigger and look bigger, my butt got bigger and look bigger, my butt got bigger and higher. I actually have arms. So, like higher. I actually have arms. So, like higher. I actually have arms. So, like hearing that validation um, and seeing hearing that validation um, and seeing hearing that validation um, and seeing it myself is just like um, it's awesome. it myself is just like um, it's awesome. it myself is just like um, it's awesome. So, I'm really pumped to to keep this So, I'm really pumped to to keep this So, I'm really pumped to to keep this going. going. going. >> So cool. >> So cool. >> So cool. >> Great job. That's exactly what you >> Great job. That's exactly what you >> Great job. That's exactly what you needed to do. I'm so glad you did it. needed to do. I'm so glad you did it. needed to do. I'm so glad you did it. I'm reading your email here, so let me I'm reading your email here, so let me I'm reading your email here, so let me know if this is still uh accurate. know if this is still uh accurate. know if this is still uh accurate. >> You went from 650 calories a day to >> You went from 650 calories a day to >> You went from 650 calories a day to about 2,00 to 2100. about 2,00 to 2100. about 2,00 to 2100. >> Yeah. So, 1650 to about 2100. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, 1650 to about 2100. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, 1650 to about 2100. Yeah. >> Okay. And your strength, uh, it looks >> Okay. And your strength, uh, it looks >> Okay. And your strength, uh, it looks like you squatting from 45 to 85 lbs. like you squatting from 45 to 85 lbs. like you squatting from 45 to 85 lbs. So, you went up 40 lbs in your squat. So, you went up 40 lbs in your squat. So, you went up 40 lbs in your squat. Almost double doubled it. Yeah. That's Almost double doubled it. Yeah. That's Almost double doubled it. Yeah. That's phenomenal. And you're actually kind of phenomenal. And you're actually kind of phenomenal. And you're actually kind of careful with that cuz you don't want to careful with that cuz you don't want to careful with that cuz you don't want to hurt yourself, it says in the email. hurt yourself, it says in the email. hurt yourself, it says in the email. >> Yeah, I have two uh back fractures from >> Yeah, I have two uh back fractures from >> Yeah, I have two uh back fractures from when I was in high school. It just never when I was in high school. It just never when I was in high school. It just never healed, right? So, I have to be really healed, right? So, I have to be really healed, right? So, I have to be really careful with squatting and deadlifting. careful with squatting and deadlifting. careful with squatting and deadlifting. >> No worries. And then you gained 3 to >> No worries. And then you gained 3 to >> No worries. And then you gained 3 to four pounds of muscle essentially uh per four pounds of muscle essentially uh per four pounds of muscle essentially uh per the comment of your husband with your the comment of your husband with your the comment of your husband with your legs and your butt and the strength. legs and your butt and the strength. legs and your butt and the strength. >> Yeah, I mean what I the last weighin I >> Yeah, I mean what I the last weighin I >> Yeah, I mean what I the last weighin I did was October and I weighed 10 did was October and I weighed 10 did was October and I weighed 10 126. I weighed myself last week. I weigh 126. I weighed myself last week. I weigh 126. I weighed myself last week. I weigh 127. So, I definitely think I did a 127. So, I definitely think I did a 127. So, I definitely think I did a recmp. recmp. recmp. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like just eating intuitively, which was >> Like just eating intuitively, which was >> Like just eating intuitively, which was really great. really great. really great. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I want to hit the I want to hit the >> So, I want to hit the I want to hit the >> So, I want to hit the I want to hit the question that I see coming, which is the question that I see coming, which is the question that I see coming, which is the uh I have a trip coming up in a couple uh I have a trip coming up in a couple uh I have a trip coming up in a couple weeks, but I want to get back my plan to weeks, but I want to get back my plan to weeks, but I want to get back my plan to increase my calories and again start increase my calories and again start increase my calories and again start MAPS aesthetic. I don't think maps MAPS aesthetic. I don't think maps MAPS aesthetic. I don't think maps aesthetic is the program for you. I do aesthetic is the program for you. I do aesthetic is the program for you. I do want you to increase calories though. I want you to increase calories though. I want you to increase calories though. I think you absolutely can keep going up think you absolutely can keep going up think you absolutely can keep going up in the calorie direction. in the calorie direction. in the calorie direction. >> Okay. I think MAPS aesthetic volume is >> Okay. I think MAPS aesthetic volume is >> Okay. I think MAPS aesthetic volume is unnecessary for what you're trying to unnecessary for what you're trying to unnecessary for what you're trying to accomplish and where we're at accomplish and where we're at accomplish and where we're at calorie-wise. That's my opinion. calorie-wise. That's my opinion. calorie-wise. That's my opinion. >> Bump your calories and follow Maps >> Bump your calories and follow Maps >> Bump your calories and follow Maps Muscle Mommy. Muscle Mommy. Muscle Mommy. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> that'll get you what you want. >> that'll get you what you want. >> that'll get you what you want. >> Okay, that was actually my the the next >> Okay, that was actually my the the next >> Okay, that was actually my the the next one I was going to suggest if you guys one I was going to suggest if you guys one I was going to suggest if you guys had uh options. I was like Muscle Mommy had uh options. I was like Muscle Mommy had uh options. I was like Muscle Mommy was one that was kind of on my radar. was one that was kind of on my radar. was one that was kind of on my radar. >> Um I did notice that like training with >> Um I did notice that like training with >> Um I did notice that like training with deadlifting and squatting um deadlifting and squatting um deadlifting and squatting um >> like my I just like I got less flexible. >> like my I just like I got less flexible. >> like my I just like I got less flexible. >> Oh yeah. No. Um, you know, doing >> Oh yeah. No. Um, you know, doing >> Oh yeah. No. Um, you know, doing something definitely. I mean, I have to something definitely. I mean, I have to something definitely. I mean, I have to do something different. I just feel like do something different. I just feel like do something different. I just feel like it's uh it's run its course. So, I think it's uh it's run its course. So, I think it's uh it's run its course. So, I think Muscle Mommy will be a good fit. Um, Muscle Mommy will be a good fit. Um, Muscle Mommy will be a good fit. Um, when I know I have to ask this question, when I know I have to ask this question, when I know I have to ask this question, so don't kill me, Adam, but like when do so don't kill me, Adam, but like when do so don't kill me, Adam, but like when do I do the cut? Cuz like I think I'm fine I do the cut? Cuz like I think I'm fine I do the cut? Cuz like I think I'm fine now. Like I'm like totally in the zone now. Like I'm like totally in the zone now. Like I'm like totally in the zone now. I do feel like I'm going to trip now. I do feel like I'm going to trip now. I do feel like I'm going to trip myself up once summer gets here and I'm myself up once summer gets here and I'm myself up once summer gets here and I'm walking around in shorts and tank tops walking around in shorts and tank tops walking around in shorts and tank tops and I I mean I feel I feel bigger now. and I I mean I feel I feel bigger now. and I I mean I feel I feel bigger now. I'll admit I feel fluffy. I feel big, I'll admit I feel fluffy. I feel big, I'll admit I feel fluffy. I feel big, but I'm still not freaking out. I just but I'm still not freaking out. I just but I'm still not freaking out. I just see myself getting to that point once see myself getting to that point once see myself getting to that point once the weather starts to turn here. the weather starts to turn here. the weather starts to turn here. >> So, even though you only went 3 lbs up >> So, even though you only went 3 lbs up >> So, even though you only went 3 lbs up in the scale, husband says it's butt and in the scale, husband says it's butt and in the scale, husband says it's butt and legs, you still feel fluffy. legs, you still feel fluffy. legs, you still feel fluffy. >> I do. And I don't I think it's like I >> I do. And I don't I think it's like I >> I do. And I don't I think it's like I don't know if it's like like because I'm don't know if it's like like because I'm don't know if it's like like because I'm I've increased my food and maybe I have I've increased my food and maybe I have I've increased my food and maybe I have some digestive issues, but I always feel some digestive issues, but I always feel some digestive issues, but I always feel bloated by the end of the day. Just kind bloated by the end of the day. Just kind bloated by the end of the day. Just kind of feel gross. of feel gross. of feel gross. >> You're It's cuz you're It's You know >> You're It's cuz you're It's You know >> You're It's cuz you're It's You know what it is? It's You're tripping. what it is? It's You're tripping. what it is? It's You're tripping. >> Yeah. You're tripping. Yeah, you're >> Yeah. You're tripping. Yeah, you're >> Yeah. You're tripping. Yeah, you're tripping. So, you're used to eating very tripping. So, you're used to eating very tripping. So, you're used to eating very little. little. little. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, eating eating appropriately to you >> So, eating eating appropriately to you >> So, eating eating appropriately to you is too much. is too much. is too much. >> So, adding more is going to be even >> So, adding more is going to be even >> So, adding more is going to be even more. more. more. >> It is. Well, and I mean, what we're >> It is. Well, and I mean, what we're >> It is. Well, and I mean, what we're getting to is that so we we have we've getting to is that so we we have we've getting to is that so we we have we've just had some recent callers where we just had some recent callers where we just had some recent callers where we talked about this too. Someone where talked about this too. Someone where talked about this too. Someone where you're coming from will be would be far you're coming from will be would be far you're coming from will be would be far better off building into the physique better off building into the physique better off building into the physique than cutting to the physique you want. than cutting to the physique you want. than cutting to the physique you want. you with you with, and I know it sounds you with you with, and I know it sounds you with you with, and I know it sounds crazy to say this, but 10 more pounds on crazy to say this, but 10 more pounds on crazy to say this, but 10 more pounds on the scale or 10 lbs on your body the scale or 10 lbs on your body the scale or 10 lbs on your body >> of muscle >> of muscle >> of muscle >> will look better than trying to cut you >> will look better than trying to cut you >> will look better than trying to cut you down 5 lbs. down 5 lbs. down 5 lbs. >> It will you you will have the the >> It will you you will have the the >> It will you you will have the the roundness of the shoulders, even rounder roundness of the shoulders, even rounder roundness of the shoulders, even rounder butt, of the shape that you'll look butt, of the shape that you'll look butt, of the shape that you'll look you'll look more amazing you'll look more amazing you'll look more amazing building into the body you want than building into the body you want than building into the body you want than trying to cut into the body you want. trying to cut into the body you want. trying to cut into the body you want. >> April April, do you know what your body >> April April, do you know what your body >> April April, do you know what your body fat percentage sits at? I don't. fat percentage sits at? I don't. fat percentage sits at? I don't. >> How tall are you? What's your body >> How tall are you? What's your body >> How tall are you? What's your body weight? weight? weight? >> I weigh 127 and I'm 5'6. >> I weigh 127 and I'm 5'6. >> I weigh 127 and I'm 5'6. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, hun. You're lean. Yeah, you're >> Oh, hun. You're lean. Yeah, you're >> Oh, hun. You're lean. Yeah, you're especially with your strength and all especially with your strength and all especially with your strength and all that. You're lean. Yeah, we got to Yeah. that. You're lean. Yeah, we got to Yeah. that. You're lean. Yeah, we got to Yeah. I would go up to 2,300 calories. I would go up to 2,300 calories. I would go up to 2,300 calories. >> Follow Map's Muscle Mommy and have a >> Follow Map's Muscle Mommy and have a >> Follow Map's Muscle Mommy and have a good time. Have a great time letting good time. Have a great time letting good time. Have a great time letting your metabolism really just your metabolism really just your metabolism really just >> Same same focus, too. Don't Don't be uh >> Same same focus, too. Don't Don't be uh >> Same same focus, too. Don't Don't be uh don't focus on the scale. Focus on the don't focus on the scale. Focus on the don't focus on the scale. Focus on the strength of the gym. Those extra strength of the gym. Those extra strength of the gym. Those extra calories, if we do a good job, should calories, if we do a good job, should calories, if we do a good job, should fuel that strength. that we want to see. fuel that strength. that we want to see. fuel that strength. that we want to see. And just so you know, someone like you And just so you know, someone like you And just so you know, someone like you doing some if I coached you, doing some if I coached you, doing some if I coached you, >> I would easily get you up to over time >> I would easily get you up to over time >> I would easily get you up to over time like 27 2,800 calories, no problem. like 27 2,800 calories, no problem. like 27 2,800 calories, no problem. >> No problem. >> No problem. >> No problem. >> So even 2,300 is going to is is lower >> So even 2,300 is going to is is lower >> So even 2,300 is going to is is lower than what your body's capable of doing. than what your body's capable of doing. than what your body's capable of doing. And you're not going to get you're not And you're not going to get you're not And you're not going to get you're not going to gain all this body fat. You're going to gain all this body fat. You're going to gain all this body fat. You're just going to get really sculpted is just going to get really sculpted is just going to get really sculpted is what's going to happen. what's going to happen. what's going to happen. >> Which is why I wouldn't want to cut you. >> Which is why I wouldn't want to cut you. >> Which is why I wouldn't want to cut you. I wouldn't I wouldn't want if you were I wouldn't I wouldn't want if you were I wouldn't I wouldn't want if you were my client and we were together long my client and we were together long my client and we were together long term, the goal would be to do what S term, the goal would be to do what S term, the goal would be to do what S said before I said, "Okay, we could said before I said, "Okay, we could said before I said, "Okay, we could probably cut and see what that looks probably cut and see what that looks probably cut and see what that looks like." Because you're tall enough, like." Because you're tall enough, like." Because you're tall enough, you're lean enough, you're lifting you're lean enough, you're lifting you're lean enough, you're lifting enough to get to a place where you enough to get to a place where you enough to get to a place where you should be able to easily eat over 25 should be able to easily eat over 25 should be able to easily eat over 25 2600 calories and maintain the body and 2600 calories and maintain the body and 2600 calories and maintain the body and physique you want. and cutting you physique you want. and cutting you physique you want. and cutting you before that is just I'm setting you up before that is just I'm setting you up before that is just I'm setting you up for for failure down the road, you know. for for failure down the road, you know. for for failure down the road, you know. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> So that >> So that >> So that >> Okay. Um I don't like eating a ton of >> Okay. Um I don't like eating a ton of >> Okay. Um I don't like eating a ton of food because I mean I eat whole natural food because I mean I eat whole natural food because I mean I eat whole natural foods, right? From cooking all the time, foods, right? From cooking all the time, foods, right? From cooking all the time, all that stuff. Can I get those extra all that stuff. Can I get those extra all that stuff. Can I get those extra calories from like adding more olive oil calories from like adding more olive oil calories from like adding more olive oil or cooking butter? I would I would or cooking butter? I would I would or cooking butter? I would I would encourage you not to change much encourage you not to change much encourage you not to change much especially with someone who feel like especially with someone who feel like especially with someone who feel like they're eat like adding uh I don't know they're eat like adding uh I don't know they're eat like adding uh I don't know what cuts of meat you eat right now but what cuts of meat you eat right now but what cuts of meat you eat right now but have a little bit higher fat cuts of have a little bit higher fat cuts of have a little bit higher fat cuts of meat. meat. meat. >> I don't know how often you enjoy a >> I don't know how often you enjoy a >> I don't know how often you enjoy a ribeye or a tri tip or the highfat ribeye or a tri tip or the highfat ribeye or a tri tip or the highfat ground beef. Enjoy that. ground beef. Enjoy that. ground beef. Enjoy that. >> I'm picking up half a cow in two weeks. >> I'm picking up half a cow in two weeks. >> I'm picking up half a cow in two weeks. >> Oh, you are? Oh, good. Yeah. So, enjoy >> Oh, you are? Oh, good. Yeah. So, enjoy >> Oh, you are? Oh, good. Yeah. So, enjoy higher fat cuts. Enjoy enjoy those or higher fat cuts. Enjoy enjoy those or higher fat cuts. Enjoy enjoy those or add an olive oil when you're doing add an olive oil when you're doing add an olive oil when you're doing something like that. Eat chicken thighs something like that. Eat chicken thighs something like that. Eat chicken thighs instead of chicken breast. Don't do the instead of chicken breast. Don't do the instead of chicken breast. Don't do the extra lean ground turkey. If you do do extra lean ground turkey. If you do do extra lean ground turkey. If you do do ground turkey, make it in olive oil. Add ground turkey, make it in olive oil. Add ground turkey, make it in olive oil. Add a little bit of butter to your rice. a little bit of butter to your rice. a little bit of butter to your rice. Like do things like that. That's not not Like do things like that. That's not not Like do things like that. That's not not really radically changing the the kind really radically changing the the kind really radically changing the the kind of way you eat, but just, you know, of way you eat, but just, you know, of way you eat, but just, you know, you're bumping 100, 200 calories you're bumping 100, 200 calories you're bumping 100, 200 calories >> through higher and and the higher fat >> through higher and and the higher fat >> through higher and and the higher fat always does good with my females. My always does good with my females. My always does good with my females. My female clients always are better served female clients always are better served female clients always are better served getting those good healthy fats in their getting those good healthy fats in their getting those good healthy fats in their diet. An avocado in there. Add stuff diet. An avocado in there. Add stuff diet. An avocado in there. Add stuff like that. I love that. especially if like that. I love that. especially if like that. I love that. especially if you're hitting your protein already you're hitting your protein already you're hitting your protein already consistently. consistently. consistently. >> Okay. Yeah, I definitely do. Even if >> Okay. Yeah, I definitely do. Even if >> Okay. Yeah, I definitely do. Even if even though I don't track I tracked for even though I don't track I tracked for even though I don't track I tracked for so long, I definitely am getting my so long, I definitely am getting my so long, I definitely am getting my protein. I do think the digestive stuff protein. I do think the digestive stuff protein. I do think the digestive stuff probably is coming from trying to probably is coming from trying to probably is coming from trying to increase my carbs because my carbs increase my carbs because my carbs increase my carbs because my carbs generally sit on the low side. Um I did generally sit on the low side. Um I did generally sit on the low side. Um I did hear you guys had a caller. I think she hear you guys had a caller. I think she hear you guys had a caller. I think she had very similar stats to me, but she had very similar stats to me, but she had very similar stats to me, but she said that she eats, you know, very high said that she eats, you know, very high said that she eats, you know, very high fat, low carb, and you guys said it was fat, low carb, and you guys said it was fat, low carb, and you guys said it was okay. Yep. okay. Yep. okay. Yep. >> That I'll still build muscle even if I'm >> That I'll still build muscle even if I'm >> That I'll still build muscle even if I'm not chasing Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. not chasing Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. not chasing Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, going Z, no Yeah. You know, I mean, going Z, no Yeah. You know, I mean, going Z, no carb, uh, some women have hormonal carb, uh, some women have hormonal carb, uh, some women have hormonal issues from that, but going lower carb, issues from that, but going lower carb, issues from that, but going lower carb, higher fat, perfectly fine. Yep. higher fat, perfectly fine. Yep. higher fat, perfectly fine. Yep. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm probably like 80 grams of >> Yeah. I'm probably like 80 grams of >> Yeah. I'm probably like 80 grams of carbs a day. carbs a day. carbs a day. >> That's where you're at now? >> That's where you're at now? >> That's where you're at now? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, you're fine. Yeah, you could b Yeah. >> Oh, you're fine. Yeah, you could b Yeah. >> Oh, you're fine. Yeah, you could b Yeah. And you could bump the fats a little bit And you could bump the fats a little bit And you could bump the fats a little bit and if it's digestive, you could try and if it's digestive, you could try and if it's digestive, you could try adding psyllium husk to your meals. It's adding psyllium husk to your meals. It's adding psyllium husk to your meals. It's just the fiber that helps. Uh, yeah. So, just the fiber that helps. Uh, yeah. So, just the fiber that helps. Uh, yeah. So, you could try that. you could try that. you could try that. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Okay, cool. Okay, last question for you >> Okay, cool. Okay, last question for you >> Okay, cool. Okay, last question for you guys. Um cuz again, you had a recent I guys. Um cuz again, you had a recent I guys. Um cuz again, you had a recent I listen to you guys every day. Like listen to you guys every day. Like listen to you guys every day. Like seriously. Um you guys are amazing. Um seriously. Um you guys are amazing. Um seriously. Um you guys are amazing. Um but you had a recent episode about but you had a recent episode about but you had a recent episode about creatine and how women should be taking creatine and how women should be taking creatine and how women should be taking it. Um I have a heart condition and I it. Um I have a heart condition and I it. Um I have a heart condition and I cannot take it. It causes um cannot take it. It causes um cannot take it. It causes um palpitations. Okay. So, if you could palpitations. Okay. So, if you could palpitations. Okay. So, if you could recommend a second in place, a recommend a second in place, a recommend a second in place, a supplement that a woman should add to supplement that a woman should add to supplement that a woman should add to their stack that's not creatine. Do you their stack that's not creatine. Do you their stack that's not creatine. Do you guys have any suggestions of like what guys have any suggestions of like what guys have any suggestions of like what would be a good one? would be a good one? would be a good one? >> Yeah. No. And you've been recommended by >> Yeah. No. And you've been recommended by >> Yeah. No. And you've been recommended by your doctor not to take creatine. your doctor not to take creatine. your doctor not to take creatine. >> Yeah. My cardiologist recommended not to >> Yeah. My cardiologist recommended not to >> Yeah. My cardiologist recommended not to take it just because of my electrolytes take it just because of my electrolytes take it just because of my electrolytes have to be like dialed in. have to be like dialed in. have to be like dialed in. >> Oh, I see. That makes perfect sense. >> Oh, I see. That makes perfect sense. >> Oh, I see. That makes perfect sense. Okay. Yeah. I mean, honestly, Okay. Yeah. I mean, honestly, Okay. Yeah. I mean, honestly, multivitamin, vitamin D, uh, with K, multivitamin, vitamin D, uh, with K, multivitamin, vitamin D, uh, with K, omega-3s, um, you know, these are just omega-3s, um, you know, these are just omega-3s, um, you know, these are just health supplements. There's not a ton of health supplements. There's not a ton of health supplements. There's not a ton of supplements out there that make a huge supplements out there that make a huge supplements out there that make a huge difference. You're hitting your protein difference. You're hitting your protein difference. You're hitting your protein target. target. target. >> If you weren't hitting your protein, I'd >> If you weren't hitting your protein, I'd >> If you weren't hitting your protein, I'd say a protein shake. say a protein shake. say a protein shake. >> Uh, but there's like not a lot of I >> Uh, but there's like not a lot of I >> Uh, but there's like not a lot of I mean, you know, there's stuff that can mean, you know, there's stuff that can mean, you know, there's stuff that can help with inflammation, with sleep, and, help with inflammation, with sleep, and, help with inflammation, with sleep, and, you know, but honestly, if make sure you you know, but honestly, if make sure you you know, but honestly, if make sure you get your nutrients, get your nutrients, get your nutrients, >> so you know, uh, like methylated B >> so you know, uh, like methylated B >> so you know, uh, like methylated B complex, some women do really well with complex, some women do really well with complex, some women do really well with that. Um, vitamin D with K2. Uh, most, that. Um, vitamin D with K2. Uh, most, that. Um, vitamin D with K2. Uh, most, you know, men and women do well with you know, men and women do well with you know, men and women do well with that. that. that. >> I'm assuming you're already doing like >> I'm assuming you're already doing like >> I'm assuming you're already doing like blood work and checking your hormones blood work and checking your hormones blood work and checking your hormones and, you know, you're all balanced on and, you know, you're all balanced on and, you know, you're all balanced on that side. that side. that side. >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I also suffered from >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I also suffered from >> Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I also suffered from from Graves disease two years ago, so I from Graves disease two years ago, so I from Graves disease two years ago, so I get that checked every six months. get that checked every six months. get that checked every six months. >> So, if you're if you're balancing your >> So, if you're if you're balancing your >> So, if you're if you're balancing your hormones out, you're hitting all your hormones out, you're hitting all your hormones out, you're hitting all your micro macronutrients. Even as great as micro macronutrients. Even as great as micro macronutrients. Even as great as creatine is, it's not like it's it's not creatine is, it's not like it's it's not creatine is, it's not like it's it's not that big of a deal for you not to be. that big of a deal for you not to be. that big of a deal for you not to be. You're not missing out on some huge You're not missing out on some huge You're not missing out on some huge >> I feel like I'm missing out every day. >> I feel like I'm missing out every day. >> I feel like I'm missing out every day. and it's like crap. Okay. and it's like crap. Okay. and it's like crap. Okay. >> No, no, you're not. You're not. In fact, >> No, no, you're not. You're not. In fact, >> No, no, you're not. You're not. In fact, you know what? I where an area that I you know what? I where an area that I you know what? I where an area that I think everybody can always be better at think everybody can always be better at think everybody can always be better at is is sleep. And so, if you put some is is sleep. And so, if you put some is is sleep. And so, if you put some effort and energy into getting really effort and energy into getting really effort and energy into getting really good night's rest of consistent sleep, good night's rest of consistent sleep, good night's rest of consistent sleep, that'll serve you even more than even that'll serve you even more than even that'll serve you even more than even the best creatine in the world will. the best creatine in the world will. the best creatine in the world will. Like you like consistently scoring Like you like consistently scoring Like you like consistently scoring really high on sleep every single night. really high on sleep every single night. really high on sleep every single night. So having a good sleep routine, uh So having a good sleep routine, uh So having a good sleep routine, uh whether that's, you know, and for me whether that's, you know, and for me whether that's, you know, and for me it's like chamomile tea, my magnesium, it's like chamomile tea, my magnesium, it's like chamomile tea, my magnesium, like I have my little supplement stack like I have my little supplement stack like I have my little supplement stack that really helps me calm down, wind that really helps me calm down, wind that really helps me calm down, wind down, and get a good night's rested. Uh down, and get a good night's rested. Uh down, and get a good night's rested. Uh if that Yeah. Hold my teddy bear. Yeah. if that Yeah. Hold my teddy bear. Yeah. if that Yeah. Hold my teddy bear. Yeah. All those things. So if you don't if you All those things. So if you don't if you All those things. So if you don't if you don't put a lot of effort into that, I don't put a lot of effort into that, I don't put a lot of effort into that, I think that would serve you as much or think that would serve you as much or think that would serve you as much or more than even creatine would. more than even creatine would. more than even creatine would. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Okay. Cool. Okay. >> Okay. Cool. Okay. >> Okay. Cool. Okay. >> All right, guys. Thank you so much. >> All right, guys. Thank you so much. >> All right, guys. Thank you so much. >> You're doing great. >> You're doing great. >> You're doing great. >> Um I'll just say one last thing. anybody >> Um I'll just say one last thing. anybody >> Um I'll just say one last thing. anybody if you're women especially if you're if you're women especially if you're if you're women especially if you're afraid to lift heavy listen to them. It afraid to lift heavy listen to them. It afraid to lift heavy listen to them. It actually works. Thank you so much, guys. actually works. Thank you so much, guys. actually works. Thank you so much, guys. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good job. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good job. >> Thank you. Thank you. Good job. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> If I if I recall, so I should give her >> If I if I recall, so I should give her >> If I if I recall, so I should give her love because if I recall, love because if I recall, love because if I recall, >> we did the call with her and she got >> we did the call with her and she got >> we did the call with her and she got off. I said she ain't listening to us. off. I said she ain't listening to us. off. I said she ain't listening to us. >> Yeah, we almost like took a bet on her. >> Yeah, we almost like took a bet on her. >> Yeah, we almost like took a bet on her. >> Yeah, I think I think she I think she >> Yeah, I think I think she I think she >> Yeah, I think I think she I think she was the one that I said that. So, I got was the one that I said that. So, I got was the one that I said that. So, I got to give her some respect that I felt to give her some respect that I felt to give her some respect that I felt that energy. But I I got to say this too that energy. But I I got to say this too that energy. But I I got to say this too with the digestive stuff, not that this with the digestive stuff, not that this with the digestive stuff, not that this isn't common cuz digestive issues can be isn't common cuz digestive issues can be isn't common cuz digestive issues can be common in people. Uh but sometimes often common in people. Uh but sometimes often common in people. Uh but sometimes often times I find people who are afraid to times I find people who are afraid to times I find people who are afraid to eat more or who've constantly eaten eat more or who've constantly eaten eat more or who've constantly eaten eaten too little or have restricted when eaten too little or have restricted when eaten too little or have restricted when they eat appropriately to them it feels they eat appropriately to them it feels they eat appropriately to them it feels like they're bloated. like they're bloated. like they're bloated. >> Yeah. I'm dealing with the new thing. >> Yeah. I'm dealing with the new thing. >> Yeah. I'm dealing with the new thing. >> Yeah. And it's like you're just not used >> Yeah. And it's like you're just not used >> Yeah. And it's like you're just not used to feeding yourself. You're used to to feeding yourself. You're used to to feeding yourself. You're used to being empty all the time. I'm dealing being empty all the time. I'm dealing being empty all the time. I'm dealing with that right now. with that right now. with that right now. >> Yeah. That's what we're going through >> Yeah. That's what we're going through >> Yeah. That's what we're going through right now is that, you know, it's like I right now is that, you know, it's like I right now is that, you know, it's like I I know it's appropriate. Everybody else I know it's appropriate. Everybody else I know it's appropriate. Everybody else says it's a but feels like it's too says it's a but feels like it's too says it's a but feels like it's too much. I'm bloated. My dash is just like, much. I'm bloated. My dash is just like, much. I'm bloated. My dash is just like, >> yeah, if you've trained yourself to eat >> yeah, if you've trained yourself to eat >> yeah, if you've trained yourself to eat so low a calorie, so low a calorie, so low a calorie, >> you're just used to being empty all the >> you're just used to being empty all the >> you're just used to being empty all the time. time. time. >> All the time. Yeah. It feels so >> All the time. Yeah. It feels so >> All the time. Yeah. It feels so different to you. different to you. different to you. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. If you did, check this one out. If you did, check this one out. Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit body fat. Yes. body fat. Yes. body fat. Yes. >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about it. it. it. difficult and is it worth it? That's a difficult and is it worth it? That's a difficult and is it worth it? That's a follow-up question. follow-up question. follow-up question. >> Yeah. First off, we got to say that, >> Yeah. First off, we got to say that, >> Yeah. First off, we got to say that, okay, so singledigit body fat, obviously okay, so singledigit body fat, obviously okay, so singledigit body fat, obviously body fat percentages, uh that could be body fat percentages, uh that could be body fat percentages, uh that could be represented by one digit, like 3%, 5%, represented by one digit, like 3%, 5%, represented by one digit, like 3%, 5%, 6%, 9%. That's uh ripped for men. For 6%, 9%. That's uh ripped for men. For 6%, 9%. That's uh ripped for men. For women, women, women, >> add 10%. >> add 10%. >> add 10%. >> Yeah. Don't Yeah, exactly. Go you go up >> Yeah. Don't Yeah, exactly. Go you go up >> Yeah. Don't Yeah, exactly. Go you go up about