Studio Launch Party - Indian Fetishes, Betting on Wars & Tom Cruise

Key Takeaway

The podcast explores how creative breakthroughs often emerge from personal crisis and constraint. Phil Collins wrote 'In the Air Tonight' on a painter's invoice after discovering his wife's affair—the same room where the betrayal occurred became his music studio. Sylvester Stallone painted his windows black and refused to leave until he finished Rocky's script in three days. The lesson: constraints force focus, and pain can fuel extraordinary output when channeled properly.

Episode Overview

This casual, unstructured conversation covers diverse topics from misophonia and mukbangs to the creative processes behind iconic works like Phil Collins' 'In the Air Tonight' and Rocky. The discussion explores how GLP-1 drugs might suppress not just appetite but all desire including romantic love, the advice hyperresponder phenomenon where well-meaning guidance only affects those who need it least, and why compliance—not the specific method—determines success in any endeavor.

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Transcript of Studio Launch Party - Indian Fetishes, Betting on Wars & Tom Cruise from Modern Wisdom. Auto-generated from episode audio; may contain minor errors.

Hello people. Big news. I'm on tour in Australia, but I couldn't wait to share the brand new studio and a brand new episode style with you. There's no rules, no structure. It's just me hanging out. Uh, and I'm bringing some friends with me. Enjoy the episode. See you. What's that thing? There's a thing that people have where they hate the sound of like like like misophonia. I have it real bad. No way, No way, No way, dude. If I hear you eat cereal next to me, I'll try to break your neck.

It's the worst. the worst. the worst. Don't all women have this? Excuse me. Or every every woman I've ever like dated. What the [ __ ] again? Uh I saw this video of some guy that's got one of those big tubes and it makes a a a So that kills you. But it's worse, dude. Like a like when people do their mukbangs with their microphones. microphones. microphones. Oh, the visceral rage. Like I you know the they're eating into a [ __ ] JBL microphone. Who was the [ __ ] guy that sigh up everyone?

everyone? everyone? That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Who was the the King mukbanger that sigh up everyone? up everyone? up everyone? Oh, Nikado Avocado. Yes. Thank you. No, he lost all of the weight. He lost all he's like the inverse Joey Chestnut. Chestnut. Chestnut. Yeah. Well, he ballooned and then and then undid it. Wow. Yeah, Wow. Yeah, Wow. Yeah, but he got like peak fat and then had peak views on that one video of like look what happened to my life. And he was filming it all in the background.

But he was losing weight the whole time. So the videos were old and he was like crashing out and crying and obese. And then all of a sudden he just shows up 200 lb lighter and he's like, "Hello, I have changed." And it was the weirdest [ __ ] video ever. Really? Like hairs on the back of your neck. This guy's maybe a psychopath stand up type. Like they cloned him or something. It was crazy. Damn. Damn. Damn. It was [ __ ] wild. All right. What do you got?

Oh, want to hop straight in? I do. Okay. Show me what you've got. Um, let me I tell you I'll give a story. I tell you a story about the worst phone call of all time. You have my interest. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, it's picture this. We're going to go back to 1970s Surrey uh in England. There's like a beautiful old farmhouse called Old Croft and a musician has just moved in and he's in a band and they've just had their first like top 40 song.

So, it's at that point of a musician's career where either this is like we're about to take off or we had that like one blip on there and he's just mortgaged like the most insane house for like his wealth size like way above his income cuz he's betting on his future success and he's like this is the childhood sweetheart dream. He met his wife when they were 11 years old in drama class and they got two kids together. So they've moved into this house together, this beautiful old farmhouse with their two kids and like he's managed to get the deal on it.

So it's slightly cheaper than he can afford, but it's still way too expensive, but the whole thing needs a whole paint job. It's like the whole building needs a load of different work. Kind of like this stuff here, right? Um and so he uh he has to go on tour um go try and crack America to see if he can pay for this house. So, he's kind of leaving the house. There's painters there that are doing everything up, and he's kind of saying goodbye to his family.

And as he's saying goodbye, he doesn't know if this is going to be the last time he sees this house, um, or if this is going to be the new family home. So, he goes on tour for a year. Um, and surprisingly, the tour goes really, really well. So, he's basically going to pay for this mortgage, and at the end of the tour, he's having a phone call with his wife, and it's not going well. And she basically confesses whilst he's been away, she's been having an affair and like his heart just drops.

He's like, "Who?" So he starts thinking over it's like a singer or somebody else in the band. The guy she was having the affair with was the painter. He was paying for the house. So he like go just loses mind. He ends up flying back from the tour, tries to win her back. the not only can he not win her back, she basically says, "I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving to Canada." So, he sits down the band and he says, "Well, I think the band's over.

I've got to go." It's no remote work. I've got to go. I'm going to fly to Canada and try and put my marriage together. So, the band say, "Hey, we'll just do a solo hiatus. We'll all go on solo and we'll get back together." So, he goes to Canada for 3 months putting it putting the marriage back together. Flies back 3 months later. It's completely failed. And the only place he has to stay is he goes back to this old house and he says he walks in and he says the paint was still wet with the man who cuckold it.

So he go he can't. So he's just fuming. So he leaves, goes to his favorite restaurant, orders a ravioli, and he's just staring at this ravioli. He's starving cuz he's not in days. And this ravioli is staring at him. He's staring back at the ravioli. He just can't eat. He goes back to the house. It's just this old derelict house that he's made all this money and paid for, but his family are no longer there. So, he starts drinking, he's calling her, and she's ignoring his calls in Canada.

He starts drinking, he's calling her, and finally he goes, "Well, I've got to start channeling this thing." So, he decides he looks at the master bedroom that she slept with the guy who was on his payroll whilst he's on tour and goes, "Well, you know what? This is going to become my new music studio." So he starts like channeling all the energy that's coming up. And as he's like in the moment, he grabs the invoice from the painting and decorating company that slept with his wife and he writes a song on it.

Okay. So should I play? I've got on my phone. I'll play the song. You ready? This is the song that he writes. You're [ __ ] me. So that's how Phil Collins wrote In the Air Tonight. It's on the invoice of the painter that slept with his wife. And what's interesting, what's fun about you know this story? What's so what's funny about this um this story IS UM NOTHING. LOOK, SADDEST STORY EVER. We got a banger out of it. But he Well, anyway, so whilst he's in this house um or in this new music studio that he's created, he then is in a fugue state, writes Against All Odds, which goes on to win a Grammy.

So, he makes that song, then Against All Odds the next day. What's interesting about the story, the funny part is um what he makes against all odds um obviously becomes a smasher on the radio and there's a guy in Manchester who's listening to the song on loop cuz he split up with his partner 5 years ago, his girlfriend 5 years ago. So he's listening to this song thinking about her sees her at a bus station. Um and they end up going out on a date, spend all night till 6:00 a.m.

They get back together within 6 months engaged. They have three children. Second child was me. So the whole thing he he goes Yeah. Yeah. with the toothpick. Yeah. Yeah. The second child was me. was me. was me. Are you Hold on. So yeah. So yeah. So yeah. So when you So what's beautiful is when you relisten to that Phil Collins. Wait, are you Phil Collins son? Yeah. No. No. Wait. I got lost there for a second. No. No. No. My dad My dad basically loved that song.

Um when he stood up with my mom basically. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. That's what you got for No, no, no, no. You know which room that was? This room. That room became a podcast studio. Okay. Still crazy. So, yeah. What's crazy is when you relisten to that, I think that song's incredible anyway. It still holds up 50, 60 years later. But when you now repitch him in that old master bedroom where it all happened and the lyrics often when you go back and Yeah. What is he saying?

Is he saying something that's like direct or coded with that? part in there like if you gave me if you was drowning I would not lend a hand. Um and it talks about you've been smiling or wipe that grin off your face. Um it's all about him falling. Doesn't sound like a breakup song on first lesson. first lesson. first lesson. But it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy, dude. I [ __ ] It's such a fantastic one. What was it that we found out the other day that Dolly Parton wrote uh um two of her [ __ ] biggest Google what two songs did Dolly Parton uh Jolene Jolene Jolene Jolene and um [ __ ] like Working 9 to5 or something in the in the same day.

She wrote them in the same day. [ __ ] crazy. Wow. Wow. Wow. There's a bunch of those examples of the these bursts. these bursts where like I think the the Beatles famously did this where they recorded like a [ __ ] album in a day or you know they did like they had like this insane burst of their greatest hits in a very short about five what was Jolene and I will always love you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. In the same day uh she mentioned in interviews that she wrote them during the same songwriting session and later joked that was a good writing day.

Wow. Wow. Wow. So nonchalant. I I think Bobby Darren's splash was wrote written in 20 minutes or something like that. Have you guys heard the full uh Rocky story? The Sylvester Stallone Rocky backstory? backstory? backstory? No. No. No. Oh, this is insane. You know this one. So, Sylvester Stallone wants to be an actor and uh you know, but he's got this like birth defect. So, when he was born, I think the doctors they did something that's why he has that crooked smile. So, he had like a medical almost like malpractice issue when he was born that messed up his face.

But, he wants to be an actor. He's a talks kind of funny, face is kind of funny. So, he's not getting any roles. Keeps going to casting auditions. No role. No role. Oro. So he says, "All right, if I can't get casted in somebody else's movie, I'll write my own." So he goes to his house and again, like sort of in that fuse state, he basically does two things. He paints all the windows black and he's like, "I'm not leaving this house. I don't even want to know if it's night or day until I finish the script." He hates writing.

So he's like, "I just got to do this fast because I hate writing." So in three days he writes the script for Rocky. And he has and the story of Rocky, which is like this average guy wants to be a boxer, but it's not really happening for him. this it's a story of him wanting to be an actor but he just shows boxing because it's more like physical like knockout punch it's easier for the audience to understand but it's his story and so then he goes and he pitches the script and people are like actually the script is pretty good he's like awesome and they're like we'll buy it great he's like and I'm Rocky and they're like no no no you're not Rocky we'll buy the script but you're not Rocky and so he has an offer I think for a million dollars or something like that which at the time was a lot of money and he turns it down he ends up taking I think 25 grand or some ridiculously low amount of money for the script, but he gets to be Rocky.

And he's struggling to make ends meet. He literally he's like eating like canned beans. He ends up selling his dog because he can't feed his dog. So he's like his dog was his only companion in the world. He goes, he sells it to a guy and gets like a couple hundred bucks for his dog. And then it's just like [ __ ] He's just literally rock bottom to film Rocky. He basically films the whole movie on like a million dollar budget, handheld camera, no permits, sneaking into things.

They film Rocky that way. Okay. Rocky becomes this huge hit. He basically gets this money. He goes and he first thing he does, he goes back and buys back his dog. The guy doesn't want to sell it to him. He's like, "I love this dog." And he ends up paying 25 grand to get his dog back. And then that was basically the the start of Sylvester Stallone's story was this like three-day bender he had to write the story of Rocky. How insane is that? He's the guy in in the film as well, right?

right? right? And that was part of the deal. It was like, "I'll give you 25 grand and you get to be a cameo in the movie." And he's in the movie for Rocky. The guy he's like, "By the liquor store is the guy who he sold his dog to." I didn't know any of that. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] I didn't know that. Isn't it better than the actual story of was George? Oh, it does. Yeah. You've got the nose for it. Um, have a go at you.

Well, that's Radius. Have a go at you. big forearms. That's true. That's true. That's true. So, in prep for this episode, when you told me what the the theme was of adult show and tell, I got on X for the first time in I don't know, a year. I never used that platform. Gold mine. What the What the hell? Are you about to show us Twitter as the thing you found? You brought I found this beautiful new app. It was bought by a prominent billionaire, I think.

No, it I don't know how, but the algorithm was so curated to me despite me not using it because of I think the one-off articles that my friends send me. And one of the articles he sent me was I think I think I've got it in there under GLP1's nuke the ability to love. Have you guys heard about this? I saw this. Did you guys see this? Super interesting. interesting. interesting. This is great. Okay, so we initially thought GLP-1s like Ozmpic, Trosepide, and Redatide just reduced food cravings.

Now we know they work for alcohol, cocaine, gambling, and other addictions too. But do you know what runs on exactly the same circuit? Falling in love. GLP-1 receptors sit in the exact same brain regions that light up when you're in love. The insane thing about them is that they don't just suppress appetite, they suppress wanting in general, including romantic craving another person. Something like 60 million people are now on anti-desire drugs. And it happened in the blink of an eye. I predict in the coming years we will see people on these drugs be less able to fall in love.

We will also see them fall out of love or be unable to feel it in relationships that were previously great. If your girlfriend or boyfriend started taking GLPs and your relationship started failing, there's a good chance that's why this sparked I went back to what was his name. Can you scroll up a bit? Dr. Shinyong Shinyong Yang. Yang. Yang. Dude, the bravery of trying to pronounce that just now I on air. on air. on air. I think I was pretty. You are the greatest. You did great.

Just a [ __ ] dice roll, but he said it instantly. What is courage but taking action in fear? I think the this I went back to his Twitter today to find this. Holy [ __ ] He created a storm in his mentions of people coming after him for this cuz is he AI? Look at this profile picture. Oh perhaps. I didn't look that deep. Why does he have a golden arrow? Looks like he interesting. He might be after that tweet cuz big farmer got him. No, I'm kidding. Running a plastic surgery clinic in Busousan, Korea.

I bet he is busy as [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Think about how many Koreans get plastic surgery, dude. surgery, dude. surgery, dude. I know. It's crazy. Oh, is he just anti he's very anti-GLPs. He's been hammering this for days and he said that a bunch of physicians that sell GLPs came after him because they're shareholders and it's all part of the big scheme. But there's basically I think this is rooted in theory and it makes sense theoretically if it acts on the same dopamineergic pathways. But the very concept of the fact that it doesn't just kill your appetite, it just kills your drive in general.

It just gives you the dopamine fill without doing anything. doing anything. doing anything. It works for more stuff than just food, which is pretty interesting. Seems to work on weed. It seems to work on behavioral addictions, alcoholism, gaming. Yeah. Gambling. Um, so the fact that like what is lirance? What is attraction? You know, it's the same thing. It's this dropping of serotonin. It's massive increase in epinephrine, norepinephrine, dopamine. It's just rush rush rush rush rush like a very obsessed crush phase. Um, there's a really interesting thing that's similar to that.

uh PSSD, post SSRI sexual dysfunction. So when people are on SSRIs, their sex drive can go down. But if you take them for a long enough period or if you take them, especially during puberty, and increasingly more young people are getting them prescribed when they're young, uh this can lock in for the rest of time. You can get genital numbing like the pathways that just allow you to feel what's going on during sex, they get muted. your drive gets. So, there's all of these groups of people who are trying to reignite, rekickstart their own, they're probably the ones that are watching the [ __ ] BDSM port.

They need to escalate. Um, but yeah, the between that and hormonal birth control for women driving down their sex drive and making them choose guys that they wouldn't be attracted to if they weren't on it. And GLPs and SSRI, like, it is the sex recession is just not a surprise at all. It's just not a surprise. Like, if you're having sex, you're in the minority. If um uh Kiss Armor calls you up and says, "We're going to make you um chief sex chief sex chief sex sex officer," what do you do to um what do you do to improve the situation?

Uh well, you can't pull people off SSRIs because some of them need it and even if they don't need it, they're going to rebel. So, that wouldn't be good. Can't pull people off GLP-1s because it's also going to be pretty bad and maybe they were going to die soon, too. Uh I think co-ed spaces, dating should be allowed at work. Obviously, there's always going to be some blast radius of side effects that happen. You're going to get in trouble because there's going to be some guy that doesn't take no for an answer and is blowing through boundaries in a wrong way.

But I think uh a big part of it is making guys braver because guys were already pretty timid and approaching women. Now post me too, everyone's terrified. Uh so trying to reenourage reenourage reenourage men. And I mean, you've heard me do this before, but like the me too instruction of men don't be pushy with women only landed with guys that were already nervous with women. The dudes that were blowing through boundaries and really needed to have the meto revolution like hit them. They just didn't take any take took no heat of it.

These are advice hyperresponders. Can you explain that? It's one of my favorite ideas of yours, the advice hyperresponder. hyperresponder. hyperresponder. So advice doesn't land evenly. it it sort of distributes more like alcohol than it does medicine. The people who really need to take it uh unchanged while the people that are already overdosing on it take too much. So, uh think about the advice to just work harder. The lazy person who spends all of their time on the couch, they they're unchanged. They don't even see it apply to them.

Whereas the person who already believes like they're not working hard enough, that pushes them to work even more. Uh take more responsibility. the the girl who believes that everything is already her fault decides that she needs to bear even more of the burden and carry bags that aren't hers when the person who points the finger elsewhere just again coasts past it unchanged. Uh the instruction for men to open up and be more sensitive. The existing sensitive guys who are already kind of opening their hearts far too much and crying at things that they shouldn't do, they take that as an indication that they're already emotionally insufficient.

whereas the stoic boomer just, you know, no impact at all. So, it's one of the problems with giving blanket coverage advice. It's why on the show and with everything that I write now, I'm so much more hesitant about saying this works for everyone. And it's almost always caveed with if this sounds like it applies to you, it probably does. does. does. Um, but then you've got the advice hyperresponder thing, which is maybe it just confirms your fears, maybe it uh already pushes you in the direction that you were going previously.

So yeah, it's a it's a difficult world to navigate when there's lots of what's that Naval line? Um if you take enough self- advice, take enough uh personal development advice, it all just nets out to zero, to zero, to zero, right? right? right? Yeah. Because every every maxim has I actually think that's useful in a way because when you have two people that you deeply respect that are completely the opposite, you almost go you kind of it's like two things pulling you in that direction, you kind of stay still as a result.

Like one of my favorite stories of all time was um no the it's the greatest tennis match of all time. That's what it's called and it's NovakJovich versus Rafael Nadal. It goes on for five sets. Um I think it's about 7 and 1/2 hours. There's a rain break in between. Um I think Nadal takes the lead. Jovovic takes it back. Nadal takes the lead. There's a tie break that's about 70 minutes long. Like one tie break is 70 minutes long. They finish the game at I think it's 1:40 a.m.

and Jovovich just collapses. And there's a part there's this amazing part in Jovich's biography where he's talking about discipline and he's talking about this is what it takes to win. Um and he's describing how in the aftermath of the game, he's sat in the dressing room exhausted and he's not had any sugar cuz he's been so disciplined and so focused because this is what it takes. He's not had any sugar in I think it's three years leading up to this. So he allows himself like a tab of chocolate on his tongue and he lets it melt and he says, "I stopped then immediately and I was back preparing for the next tournament." And what I love about this story, he didn't even chew it.

He didn't even chew it. Well, let it melt. Just let it because this is shows you like what it takes like the discipline. Meanwhile, Australian Open 3 years later, Roger Federra wins and he eats ice cream every single night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, oh, like there's Jovich, there's Federa. And it's not that either of them were wrong. They kind of just did what worked for them. And that's why I kind of like collecting completely opposite pieces of advice. It's so for example, Stephen King wrote his entire novel or all his work just raw dogging it.

He would just turn up, cup of coffee, stare at a blank screen, make it happen. JK Rowling used a spreadsheet for the whole of Harry Potter. So it's just there's a handwritten spreadsheet. I've seen that. seen that. seen that. Yeah, there's a handwritten spreadsheet. So there's like just different approaches. And when you get to the top of any craft, you'll notice that you'll have it's same with investing, right? Warren Buffett does almost only invests in things he'll understand, reads everything, and who's the guy who does it all via algorithms?

Um, oh, like Jim Simons, like Renaissance Capital, Capital, Capital, everything via algorithms. Both billionaires multiple times over. It's really interesting going, "Oh, now I have to pick my own way." Well, it's so idiosyncratic, right? Like you don't know, you don't know what it is that's going to work for The irony is the the the way the one thing that they all have in common often is that they have nothing in common is that they've kind of done what worked for them. That's the one thing that they actually share.

I think the underlying principle is compliance that you have to find something that you can comply to and that is why it's so idiosyncratic like it has to be different because if you couldn't comply to it you're not going to see the results. Like consistency is super important. So if Jovovich had tried Nadal's approach or Nadal had tried Federra's approach, that wouldn't have worked by design. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But wasn't it Jovovich that said, "I just like hitting the ball." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That seems like kind of counter to the robotic approach that doesn't seem that fun.

fun. fun. Well, that my friend Billy has a an amazing story about this. He the just like hitting a ball one was when he was he was about to quit. He was like fifth in the world. Spoke to his coach um and gets into that whole I just like winning the ball and then he goes on this tear and becomes number one. But the actual like discipline when it came to his diet was um was specific to him. Whereas Fedra ice cream every night. Well, I I had one to show on the advice self-help advice thing.

Did you see the Tim Ferrris blog he posted I think today or yesterday? or yesterday? or yesterday? The Oraorus of Infinity. Yeah, exactly. So Tim Ferrris, who's like helped a lot of people and been a a big uh distributor and receiver of self-help, basically writes this post kind of essentially saying got to be careful with self-help and uh but but in a pretty personal way. I thought it was kind of an amazing post about like if you go through this loop that the type of person who wants self-help, they want to be happy and so they try to fix a problem to make themselves happy, but in order to fix the problem, they're constantly searching and trying to fix problems.

It's got nuts. Boros has nuts. And so this post is amazing. It's basically just like the the act of of self-improvement self-improvement self-improvement um can lead to that that sort of infinite cycle of searching for problems to solve to improve and then you just sort of get addicted to the medicine in that way. How do you solve the infinite problem? Well, he he actually says it in this basically he's like there's this uh like you need you need both. If you just have radical acceptance of your situation, you go nowhere and you will ultimately not be happy with your own like lack of progress in life.

But if you only chase progress and never take acceptance to either weaknesses, flaws, imperfections in your life and just be able to sit with them, then you'll constantly be moving and trying to make progress to make yourself happy, but you won't be happy ever. And so that's such a scroll up, Jared. That's such a [ __ ] good line. The older I get, the more I think that self-help can be a trap. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. I say this after around 20 years of writing self-help and a lifetime of consuming it.

Bro, this is the [ __ ] Do you know there's two types of pivots that white podcasters make? Bless you. One is the God pivot and the other one the the other one is the renunciation of all of your life pivot. Yeah, it's the turns out I was overoptimizing. overoptimizing. overoptimizing. Uh the other one is turns out that I just needed to give it all the Jesus. Those are the only two Pick Your Pick Your Direction podcast, man. That's it. I chose the second one. Hey, I went to youth thing I heard the other night.

Keegan told me, "Yeah, I was uh I was praising, man." I know it was it was it was nice. It's crazy that crazy that crazy that What is this? The The The He went to a Tuesday night young adult service at a church at Austin Ridge Church. Church. Church. So young and didn't sneak in. It's permitted up until age 40. So yeah, you said you said I went to the kids thing. I was like, interesting. Well, I mean, is it wrong? Uh yeah, I think everyone's our age.

Uh yeah, I mean I didn't ask for ID, but fair. How old are you again? 23. Correct. I'm 35. You were right about what you said, by the way. I loved the I love that line of thought you just brought up about the choosing which works for you in self-development. One of my favorite quotes is from Dr. Stan efforting. Compliance is the science. It's the same way that people get jacked in the gym doing Mike Mer's low volume approach versus someone going to the gym six days a week and doing 20 sets.

If they just don't stop, they're going to get jacked. The only thing the only path to success is the one you just don't leave. Find the one that you enjoy. So, this is interesting. This is another I I'll never get off X. What have I been missing? missing? missing? This is This is exactly like must have been how my dad felt when he discovered Facebook reels. Facebook reels. Facebook reels. And then I was like, why is dad still in the bathroom 45 minutes later? He's laughing at some [ __ ] meme.

It's so funny. AI banned from answering legal and healthcare questions. This is very interesting. I don't I don't know what truth or validity there is to this because this is on X, but breaking New York bill would ban AI from answering questions related to medicine, law, dentistry, nursing, psychology, social work, engineering, and more. And so there's this narrative of I wish I had the uh I had someone who captured the quote and basically said something where now we've gotten to the point where you can get for free what the experts are charging $400 an hour for and suddenly it's restricted and controlled upon.

I don't know where the breadth and depth of this regulation and this bill will go, go, go, but it's an interesting thought that now readily available information or at most what $10 a month for for Claude or Chad GPT and now suddenly there's this bill that was like hold on and it someone commented like commented like commented like WebMD WebMD's been giving people dog [ __ ] advice for 25 years now and they didn't never get banned. Why is this suddenly an issue? Do you think it's because it's kind of personified?

It feels like a person's giving it to you. I mean, you'll have done this before that your AI gets it wrong and then you start like shouting at it. You try and discipline it. How could you have done that? You're like, "Okay, I just need to You never did that with Google, right? You never said to Google, how could you have done this?" I think it's because it feels like you're talking to another human. The first thing now I always recommend is kind of three-factor authentication.

So, I'll never just speak to one LLM. I'll speak to three of them. And I notice if I go via three, the odds of them making a mistake seems to go significantly lower. Going back to that New York thing that it feels like what are you gonna do? Like you can't how are you gonna control stuff? It just New York are always like crazy for regulation like this that never happens, never passes or never actually actualizes. Even if they do immediately people are going to VPN.

We live in the world of the VPN. Like these regulations just are going to have absolutely no impact apart from headlines. headlines. headlines. There's a billion users using chat GPT. What are you going to It's like fist fighting the wind to be like no we're going to going to going to we say no. Garden hose to a forest fire. Yeah. What are you going to do? When uh when AI first kicked off, there was all the talk about hallucinations and it's definitely gotten a lot better.

And like the original line was uh never like speak to an LLM without first speaking to your doctor or your lawyer. And now my line is like that's true, but also never reverse. Yeah. Yeah. Never speak to your doctor or your lawyer without first consulting an LM. And the amount of people I know personally that have fixed health conditions that they've been working with doctor for 10 to 20 years that chat GBT has just one-shotted in one is is incredible. Can you see that? Uh, speaking of Poly Market, Poly Market took down the will a nuclear war breakout this year betting market because there was way too much trading volume happening around what's going on in Iran.

in Iran. in Iran. Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow. What is Poly Market? Uh, you've been on X. He just discovered X. I just discovered X George 14 years 68. I don't know. I don't know what Poly Market is. Market is. Market is. Uh, do you want to describe it, Sean? I I don't even know how to [ __ ] say what it is. Yeah, it's basically a casino for everything. So you can go bet on a dangerous. dangerous. dangerous. They call it a prediction market. It's kind of like the AOL versus mayonnaise like situation.

So it's like oh sports betting not legal. Poly market betting on a sport event legal somehow. And so basically you can go so you can bet on who's going to become president. You can bet on who's going to um win this this game this weekend, but you can also bet on anything like who's going to win uh or like you know will there be a strike? Will this guy be the president in a month? And so you can bet on basically any outcome. And the the criticism of prediction markets early on was they become assassination markets because you create this in a huge incentive to just say will this guy be around and if I want money it it ends up becoming a bounty.

This is becoming a Deadpool. Yeah. Exactly. So that's always been the criticism and it's like oh there's plenty of other good things about it. like uh if you want to know the truth about how likely is something to happen. If you go to the New York Times or any like any just traditional news outlet, you know, the incentive of the writer is to write a juicy headline and then maybe have they have their opinion. But Polymarket is basically only people with skin in the game betting on an outcome.

So if you're wrong consistently, you will lose money. If you're right consistently, you'll have a bigger bank roll on Poly Market. So over time, it becomes the closest thing to like accurate predictions. accurate predictions. accurate predictions. Did they get the election right in 24? Yep. Yep. Yep. Did they? Did they? Did they? And there's a cash payout for this. Like you're actually gambling. It's just gambling, but it's gambling with a graph. It's an exchange, which is very important. It's gambling, but there's a graph on it.

Uh, which makes it look a lot more like a market. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's your kind of take on it? Do you think how do you think it's going to play out over the next few years? Unstoppable. Like I think it's going to be be be People love gambling. People love predicting things. People need the information. Uh, I mean, it's growing like crazy right now. I don't know if you saw there's actually a funny story. I think I have it on my sheet if you don't pull it up, but there was this man and woman apparently getting divorced.

This might be a fake news AI by the way. Like the story is almost too good to be true, but they're they're getting divorced. The man worked part-time in a warehouse, but suddenly started driving like a BMW. And the wife was like, "Can you She asked her lawyer like, "Can you just do you have a way to check like how could he afford this car?" And basically he did like a a forensic audit and and subpoena like kind of subpoenaed his digital wallets. And they basically found that this guy had made $3 million over the last year with a pretty much 100% hit rate on his poly market bets.

And what he had realized and so she was now going to be entitled to 3 million half of $3 million. But the guy fighting it in the courtroom was like, "Well, this is not an asset. It's a strategy. I'm running a strategy that's allowing me to win." So the judge was like, "Okay, what's your strategy?" and he basically was like, "Well, I just realized that um the Las Vegas sports books would update and the market I was betting on wasn't updating fast enough and so I would just bet the new odds even if the thing didn't happen, it was going to always match the like new odds." And so he's like, "I was just arbiting that." And so he had like they audited his bets and it was just all green basically.

Uh, and so there's a lot of people that have found these little arbitrageages. Like people are sending people to, let's say, a sporting event because they can relay what happened faster than the broadcast and faster than the like the database update. update. update. I swear this was happening in Asia with uh soccer matches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I swear this was happening there and someone was going over and sending it back. back. back. Yeah. It's like if you ever read Flash Boys, there was like a whole like quant trading thing where if they put your server close to the New York Stock Exchange server, you could get your trade in before the guy who was doing it through a like a normal uh server.

And they're like putting fiber through mountains to like shave off pennies off of every trade essentially. Wow. So do gambling laws apply then universally to poly market? When it came out it's a gambling affiliates. They're like we can't do it in Georgia. There's basically a loophole. So prediction markets are not considered gambling. They're they're like commodities contracts. So it's like it's like betting on the future price of like soybeans. soybeans. soybeans. So they're they're they're regulated by the same people who do like the commodities markets.

And so that's how they've been able to get around this. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything at world events. There is no Oh, it's so much smaller than world events. Like what color is the Gatorade going to be that gets dunked over the head of the coach at the Super Bowl? Super Bowl? Super Bowl? Anything. Anything. Anything. And we're calling this it's called Poly Market and it's it's market. This is like when someone says, "What do you do for work?" And they go, "I'm a sanitation engineer." He's a [ __ ] trash guy.

It's just like this the same branding branding. Every bit of life essentially becomes inside of trading if if you take it further enough. further enough. further enough. Wow. Wow. Wow. An interesting question. During the halftime show they were like, "Oh, is he going to play this song?" Well, guess what? There was like 400 backup dancers. And so it was very they're getting caught cuz it's like suddenly this wallet comes out puts 32 grand on this one obscure market. And it's like guess what? He was a backup dancer.

dancer. dancer. Did you see the guy who stood outside of the stadium in the days preceding it? timing how long the national anthem national anthem was going to be and he was like out there with a stopwatch. He videoed it himself with a stop because they're rehearsing rehearsing rehearsing and then puts the bed on and wins a [ __ ] [ __ ] ton of money because he knew exactly knew exactly knew exactly and that was legal cuz he was outside. It was public information and use one of those like radio telescope listening device things like tuning in and uh sure enough we need a close-up of just his face during this discussion.

The whole discussion we had a picturein picture cam of his face each of those explanations. explanations. explanations. Okay. So poly market. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys see the the Super Bowl streaker guy his uh his YouTube channel? No. No. No. He put meta ray bands on. Right. He did. He did. He did. So this guy this video is incredible. I don't watch many YouTube videos but I watched all 30 minutes of this video. Hang on. How many He's been training. HE'S [ __ ] TRAINING. SO THIS IS agility drill.

agility drill. agility drill. No. No. It's so funny though. The length. So, so this guy did it before and he's like, I'm going to do it again. 23 days. And this is basically a training montage of like a bank heist, but it's just streaking at the Super Bowl. Bowl. Bowl. Wow. Wow. Wow. So, he's doing agility drills and he shows pictures of the security guards, which you know, they look like event security and he's like, "You think they can stop me?" as he's doing like a shuttle drill on the This is brilliant.

Creating a This is like he's training for the combine. Yeah, exactly. And so he And then if you skip forward, he's like on SeatGeek looking at the like 3D images of which seat is optimal to jump. like how high is the rail, how how deep is the fall, and then he has a decoy. So, he has his friend do it with him. The friend jumps first, first, first, everybody goes to tackle him, and then he jumps second and gets a free run. This is This is the run.

That's the friend. Oh, so Oh, so Oh, so and then he goes second while they're fallen soldier. And then this guy, you think you can stop me? Shake and bake. And then he's like, uhoh. In the metas, get this is like Madden, right? In the meta IS SO DUDE, DUDE, DUDE, HE GETS TAKEN down by by the by an actual player. actual player. actual player. That's unreal. That's unreal. That's unreal. What's the penalty for something like that? A ticket? Cuz it's a misdemeanor. No, he goes to jail.

So, he goes to jail for the night, but he knew that cuz it happened last year. So, he's like, I got to remember to piss before I got to eat because I don't want to, you know, like he's like planning for his jail visit. And at the end, he basically respawns like it's GTA because the footage comes back when he's leaving the jail. And all of this was to promote his like um stock tips platform or something, but he got like over a million views on it.

He could have bet on yourself on Poly Market. Market. Market. He did. He did. He did. Yeah. He He knew what the fine was and then he bet on himself. Yeah. And he did it. Odds of a streaker at the Super Bowl. He didn't want to like confirm it, but they're like pretty sure him and his friends made a crazy bag off this. Isn't that crazy? Isn't it like just insane what YouTube will It's like show me your incentive, I'll show you your outcome. It's like YouTube is basically like do the craziest [ __ ] Yeah.

So then people do exactly the craziest [ __ ] craziest [ __ ] craziest [ __ ] The fact that he trained for it is unreal. unreal. unreal. Did you guys see this? Are you're on X, but you're not on Are you on Tik Tok? Okay, Okay, Okay, he is Tik Tok. There's a Tik Tok that I thought was just super funny. It's Tom Cruz. There's this Tom Cruz impersonator. And what happens is this guy invites him over to his house. He he he basically hires the Tom Cruz impersonator, but not for a party or a corporate event.

Just come over to my living room. And so I don't know. Have you guys seen this? He's Yes. He's Yes. He's Yes. Put the sound on because the voice is amazing. This is so good. Hey, what's up? It's talking team. Yeah, I guess just like whatever. So, it's super awkward, right? that. that. Oh, cop. Hey, good to see. Hey, my dash repl you don't know what it's like to be out here for you. Is that up at dawn drives following seeds that I can never fully tell you about.

Just help me. Help you. Help me. Help you. What are we talking about here? What have you done? Take a seat here. Just a seat for me. We had the best day of my life. Just going to keep getting better. It's an honor to meet you. Good to keep. Good to see you, Dodge. What are you talking about? Still What are you working on, Tom? Deep learning. What are you? I'm working on a ton of things. A lot of stuff, you know. know. know. Flying inverted, you know, buzzing the tower, all that stuff.

Damn. Just really happy to be here. You ever had a new tonic? I got I got to read the ingredients first. Yeah, I like all these things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you put ketamine in this new tonic? Riola. Riola. Riola. Am I in a khole right now? I studied rodeola. Healthy. One of my favorites. How's the church? Church is good. Really Church is good. Really giving me everything I need. Oh, shoot. That happens sometimes. Miscompos myself. So, how's everyone doing? How are we going down? So much better than I was 5 minutes ago.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. How far down the rabbit hole have we gone? gone? gone? Let's go deep. Okay. How far are we going to go? I I feel like I'm in a [ __ ] fever dream. I feel like I'm in a fever dream. How do you think I feel? By the way, if you'd been a mass shooter, we would have all been dead. I have no defensive capabilities at all. You didn't even Yeah. Sneaky. Holy [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] Holy [ __ ] You need a Titan security in this place.

How did he get in here? Have you any questions for me? Have you ever met the actual Tom? I did. Yeah. Met him. Yeah. How was that, Tom? Ramon. It was very exciting. exciting. exciting. He was blown away. Well, well, you know, it was 2:00 in the morning. I was uh with some friends having drinks and he was having dinner with like a big group of people and I wanted to buy him a bottle of champagne as like a way to commemorate after impersonating him for 10 years at the time just you know meeting him for the first time and the waiter shot me down said have you been to the Chateau Marmont?

Anyone? No. in LA, iconic iconic landmark hotel, but now it's like different different kind of place, like a special like solo house kind of membership club. But tried to buy him a bottle of champagne. The waiter shot me down, said, "You'll be banned and I'm going to be fired." So, I just couldn't approach Tom Cruz. But my girlfriend at the time said, "Uh, there's no way in hell you're leaving me here tonight without meeting him." So, she was really adamant about it. So, he leaves 2 in the morning.

I'm having uh drinks with my friend, getting more progressively more drunk, right? and everyone's gone. It's just Jimmy, my friend Jimmy, myself, and Donna in the garden of the Chateau. It's a restaurant. And she ends up um leaving to go to the bathroom. And uh Jimmy gets a phone call from Donna saying, "Tom Cruz is waiting for me in the valet area." Like, literally waiting for me. I couldn't believe it. So, I get up out of my chair. I sprint through the whole lobby and the whole hotel.

And I get there, and he's there with Jeremy Rener about to get on his motorcycle at 2:00 in the morning. And we had this really nice moment. when we shook each other, you know, it's an honor and privilege to greet you. You complete each other. He's very handsy. Close talker. His hands are, you know, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was very exciting. I didn't go to sleep that night. It was definitely a wonderful experience. Yeah. Tom, we appreciate you being a special guest. guest. guest. Oh, absolutely.

Oh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. I've overstayed my welcome. Wow. Wow. Wow. I'm going to back off. If you need anything from me, just let me know. You know, if you need to learn about, you know, logic and reasoning, I'm here for you. Okay. you. Okay. you. Okay. What a pleasure. I love too. Hey, bye. Hey, bye. Hey, bye. Beach volleyball tomorrow at 8 a.m. Okay. shirts I got to get the closeup of the crying where do we go from here how do you think audio listeners feel the big question get a studio they said it won't drive you insane they said the mass shooter had to do something on.

Had to do something completely. If that guy had had a sidearm on everybody in here 3 seconds after the door opened. Yeah, he moves fast. E. Damn. Damn. Damn. I was telling the guys I was like I was like I want to do this. I think it would be fun. Just do something different. And they were like like you know we don't want to throw Chris off his vibe for the first episode. I was like I don't know. I think I'm going to do it. Think we're going to do it anyway.

That's part of the vibe. Holy [ __ ] [ __ ] We're like it might work but just don't touch Chris. And he went straight for the handshake. I was like a [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] just rugby tackles me to the ground. Yeah. Jesus [ __ ] Christ, dude. Oh, okay. Um, look, you know, sleep matters, but let's be real, most nights you're probably not getting the sort of sleep that's actually restorative. Eight Sleeps Pod 5 fixes that. It's a smart cover that you throw over the top of your mattress that actively cools or heats each side of the bed up to 20°.

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That's ei.com/modern wisdom and modern wisdom at checkout. To get you back for that, Sean, what's your what's your heritage? Indian. Indian. Indian. Indian. Interesting that you say that. Seamless transition. Seamless transition. Uh Seth Seth Stevens Deviditz, ex data scientist at Google, wrote a very famous book called Everybody Lies. Uh analyzed Google autocomplete search frequency data for phrases beginning with my husband wants. husband wants. husband wants. Across the world, queries are relatively common. My husband wants sex all the time. My husband wants a divorce. My husband wants a threesome.

I searched earlier on today. My husband wants a gay cation. for some reason turned up quite high. high. high. But in India, in India the most common completion was, "My husband wants me to breastfeed him." breastfeed him." breastfeed him." This pattern appeared far more frequently in India than any other country. In India, searches about breastfeeding a husband appear roughly as often as searches about breastfeeding a baby. a baby. a baby. Wow. Before you make a comment, Sean, bring her through. two can play this game. Bonnie, come on down.

I think the most shocking part about that was after you relayed that bomb drop of a statistic, I look at Sean and he goes, "Yeah, yeah, of course it makes a lot of sense. The sky is blue." So, if you look at a map, uh, Pornhub released all of that. They've got a good data science team, which you might not expect actually, but Pornhub have got a great data science team. If you look at the most popular types of porn across the world, varies country to country, the absolute outlier is India with breastfeeding porn.

And I'm fascinated to work out why. I think maybe it's something to do with the sort of overbearing mother thing, redemption arc, some [ __ ] Freudian [ __ ] going on, or something to do with cows and milk sacred. milk sacred. milk sacred. I don't know. Yeah. I like how you're like, "Explain your people's behaviors." That's it. That's it. You speak You speak for the billion Indians. Well, I think it's basically our version of the stepsister genre, right? Like that's basically the I think in America, it's like it's like it's like it could be a man and woman hooking up, but what if she was his stepsister or stepmom?

It's like there's always like a step whatever. step whatever. step whatever. In India, we don't really get divorced, so there's not really a step. There's not really a step thing. So, you just go straight to the mom. That's my explanation. Straight to the source, source, source, right? It's the closest thing that you can get to. Might be like, isn't there like the Freudian thing? Like you, you know, there's like desire for the mom or whatever. whatever. whatever. Yeah. In early childhood. Speak for yourself, Sean. And not that I have the And not that I have the experience, but in early childhood, the Freudian thing is that there's like that's your first attraction.

I was reading I'm reading the Elon biography and they were talking because Elon's had pretty like terrible choice in women or at least like for himself like the relationships have not worked. worked. worked. Had quite a big sample size. He's the common denominator here. Yeah, fair enough. But like he was with Amber Heard and it was like a pretty toxic relationship, but they stayed together. They got back together. He was with a he was with uh I think Tula Riley. They got married in he proposed in seven days and then they got married, divorced.

At the divorce proceeding, they start making out and tell the judge they don't they're going to do go ahead with the divorce, but then they move back in together. So, he's done some like questionable things. and his one uh one of his wives basically said like he's attracted to like the abuse cuz his father was so abusive and it's basically like he there's something about like love and the intensity of a toxic abusive relationship that like fused somewhere in his body. So when he meets a woman who's intense and they get into like a toxic relationship like he has that anchor to love somehow like parental love in some weird way.

So I was like was like was like I found out some interesting stuff this week about uh insecure attachment. So uh avoidant attachment, fearful avoidant and anxious attachment. There's different types of attachment styles and about 50% of the population are securely attached. Uh about 20% are anxiously attached. About 20 uh 20% are avoidant attached, sorry, 5% are fearful avoidant, which is both. And about 25% are anxious avoidant. What you think is most people that have an insecure attachment style, they're not happy with it. They want to change it.

they they would much sooner not be pushing people away that they want to get close to or worried that someone's going to leave them that maybe they feel like they're overreacting to their absence too much. Uh so I was interested to work out what the evolutionary advantages are that are conferred on people by being anxious or avoidant. And you think well there have to be some anxiously attached people. They have much keener sense of paying attention to small differences, changes in the moments, changes in environment.

And there was a great study done where they brought people into uh a setting and they'd already done an attachment style quiz prior. So they understood the different attachment styles in the room and then a computer would slowly blow a little bit of smoke out as if there was a fire that might be about to start. Was fascinating is the anxiously attached people were the ones who noticed the smoke first, smoke first, smoke first, but the avoidantly attached people were the first ones out the door every single time.

And the argument here is that the anxiously attached people are able to pay attention to small changes. They're the ones that will be scrutinizing. They're hypervigilant for stuff, but they'll think, should we do we leave that tiger? Like, do we think it's getting closer? Is it the avoidant people are like, I'm [ __ ] out of here, and everybody then follows after them. So, one of the cool things that the avoidantly attached people have is a competitive advantage. They work better on their own. They're decisive, but they're really good at being in calamity because they're able to actually partition a bit of their brain off.

So if you were an EMT, if you were dealing with some horrendous car accident, some car wreck, and you just need to get the job done, you almost need to sort of put one bit of your brain off to a side. You need to be, okay, compassionate, like it's not it's not time for you now. Whereas a more anxiously attached person would struggle somewhat more to do that. And I think what's cool about it is we don't ever look we tend to not look so much at the advantages conferred by stuff that we feel are shortcomings.

And this is a really good example here of sure maybe you wish that you weren't worried that your partner's going to leave you all the time, but this is why you're amazing at marketing copy or at paying attention to to brand or you for instance if you were a police unit, you would want the SWAT guys to be avoidant and the detectives to be anxious. And uh it's just I think it's really interesting to think about how different psychological makeups give you both benefits and costs.

And uh that's a a a cool study about it. I like that. The secure ones just stay stay these secure people are the worst. Secure people by far the got the best relationships, but they're the ones that don't notice the thing and would be burned alive. Yeah. It's like a gossip, right? Like gossip is seen as a negative thing to do. Wow. That's like that's a that's a trait you should try to get rid of. It's like, well, why does why did gossip survive evolutionarily? It's, well, it's actually incredibly important.

I can't vet 150 different people in a new tribe. So, we need gossip to quickly spread about each person's reputation for me to like survive in any large group. So, gossip is actually incredibly important if you're going to be in any sort of social tribe. But, it's seen as this like really negative behavior that you should stop doing. You know what I mean? You know what venting is? So, it's somebody that is able to couch gossip under concern for another person. So, there's an effect in psychology called the bless her heart effect.

And it really only happens among women, not so much among among men. So, they brought um women into a lab and they had uh confederate as they're called. So, the the uh person that's a part of the study come in although they didn't know it. Two versions. First version, the woman is dressed very provocatively and looks uh sort of well put together, like quite sexy. In the second version, she looks like a mess. like not a sexual rival at all. So, how much of a sexual rival is this particular woman?

That's what they were controlling for. And in both versions, this woman comes in and says, "I slept with two guys last night, and I don't really know what's going on. Like, I'm not really too sure about this thing." And then later on, she would leave the room. And what you find is that the woman that she said it to, if she was dressed provocatively, more likely says, tells somebody else. They gossip about what's going on. But the type of gossip is what calls, they called it the blesser heart effect.

The type of gossip is couched under concern. So, George, I'm just so worried. I'm really, really worried about Christina. She's just sleeping with all of these guys and I'm so worried that she's going to get hurt. And the reason that you do that is that if anybody ever pulls you up on it's like, well, look, Christina, I was just like I I I'm sorry. I'm just worried about I'm just so worried about you. And implicitly it says me, right? I would never, right? No, I would.

That I could never. That would never be what I would do. Also, I'm pro-social. Look at how much I'm looking out for. But also, she slept with two [ __ ] guys last night, by the way. And uh yeah, it's just the bless her heart effect gossip thing is is pretty [ __ ] pretty [ __ ] pretty [ __ ] And what do they say about the other woman? woman? woman? They were less likely to say they were less likely. Yeah, because she looked like she was down on her luck. She didn't look like a sexual rival.

It's a enforcement mechanism for um intraexual competition among women. That's the way it works. Didn't you have a lady on recently who had a discussion about malicious nature within females? a full two hours of it. Yeah, Danny Solicowski, she's a beast. But um the fact that the internet hasn't got angry at that episode just shows how much female privilege there is. She can say all of that. Everyone goes there and finds all of the problems with it. Yeah, it was uh it's fascinating, dude. It's like endlessly.

This is just a big promotion and master class on how to hang on to all your traumas and actually don't change. No, stay avoidant. Stay anxious. Life's life's better this way. Don't do the work. work. work. What if the computer gets set on fire? It's very important. You you need to hang on to that thing that made you not have committed relationships so you don't die in a fire. Of course, naturally. naturally. naturally. Time has flown by during this podcast, which brings me on to my point about time.

time. time. You're the king of transitions. Amazing segue. segue. segue. Bill Collins's grandson is on it right now. now. now. Sylvester Stallone stepson. You're so perceptive of the environment. Are you anxious? Yeah, there needs to be an award for um worst transition. Um, so there's a guy called Albert Hine in around about the 1880s and he is a geologist who's climbing up a mountain and he falls 60 ft, right? So from the laws of physics, a 60 ft fall is one, two, boom, and you're dead.

Um, so he but now he recalls what his experience was like of falling. So he falls and he immediately thinks as he's falling down um he thinks should I take my glasses off or should I keep them on? Should I drop my cane or should I uh basically cry for help and he goes oh goes I wonder what it's going to be like when people realize that I'm on this trip that I'm dead. Should I let them know like this is happening? Then he starts thinking about the lecture he's going to give next week and how um they're going to all be there and go oh he's dead.

Then his entire life flashes before his eyes. two seconds and he kind what would be interesting about the story you'd immediately go well this is quackery this is like him potentially making this thing up post hawk but he then spent his entire life like chatting to other people that have had this experience of falling off things from builders to different climbers and lots of them mirror the exact same thing that just as you're about to die your dilation of time slows down so much it's one big thing I've been writing about of late around um how do we go about slowing down the speed of time or changing um time and if you could find it on my um Twitter Jared if you search George Mack Janet's law about how time compresses with age and it's kind of this idea that you've experienced according to this theory which I don't think is necessarily true but according to this theory you've lived half of your life by around about the age of 20 um and experientially and experientially and experientially experientially um particularly because children the reason why time feels slow so slow as a child is everything is new so that's one of the arguments of how you slow down time is for example also been here time has slowed down um to some extent because we've been doing something new or you're in a new environment but by the time you've been doing it 300 times things go so much faster but I'm I don't know if you guys have actually thought through of like how as you get older do you go about slowing down time and not just waking up 85 85 85 [ __ ] everything went back to talking in just one second but first tell me if this sounds familiar you train regularly you eat reasonably well maybe you even supplement you feel fine but you just kind of going off vibes.

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Like how one of the things I heard a friend say is is how good can it get? How good God can it get? Like the cup of coffee, how damn good is this cup of coffee? And it forces you into the present over something seemingly minuscule, but if that coffee was bad, you'd notice it, right? Cuz you want a decent cup of coffee. coffee and then if it's horrendous, you get pissed off. So, why not notice? Wow, this is the perfect temperature. It's just bitter enough but a little sweet.

And then you look up and you go, "Wow, and the sun's out this morning and it feels warm." And I find that when I bring perceptive or a sensory experience into the present moment, and just romanticize your life, as the cliche would call, everything feels more novel. And we were having cheeseburgers the other night. I'm just like, "How fun is this?" You know, you got we got to watch I got to watch my friend work out material. He's so excited about and now we're eating a damn good cheeseburger.

How good can it get? get? get? So So my that literally what I wrote about was three things. So like the the original story that's part of it is it comes at it from a different angle, but it's essentially this boy called Henry. Um which I think I've told on the Christmas show, but just for people who haven't heard it before, um Henry uh is like 5 years old. He's playing outside on the streets of Connecticut and a cyclist doesn't see him, clatters into Henry, knocks him unconscious and his life becomes a bit strange.

He starts having seizures, but by the age of 27, he's having 20 seizures per day. Um, and he's desperate to fix it. He's trying everything that he can. And this is during like peak experimental brain surgery. So, he goes forward, volunteers, and wakes up, and he basically gets delivered some good news, some bad news, some awful news by life. So, the good news is that the surgeries largely fixed his epilepsy. The bad news is that he won't remember the good news because of the awful news.

And the awful news is that he's destroyed his ability to form new memories. So Henry lives from the age of 27 to 82 the same day. I say because he only can remember things in 2 minutes increments and then it disappears. So he meets his psychiatrist for the first time every day. But the most disturbing thing about Henry was he would look in the mirror each day and be confused why the reflection looks so old. Um cuz he's just forgotten everything. always thought he was 27, but now I'm 65, but now I'm at 7.

You have some long-term memories, like he was anchored at a certain time. Exactly. Before 27. So, it basically begs the question, you have like all the Brian Johnson's of the world, which I think are great, like the longevity people, but very few people talk about time longevity because in theory, Henry lived a long life. He lived till 82 or did he die at 27? And it's such an important part of memory. And the three the three things that I concluded when I was looking at the research for it there's a great book called time expansion uh dilution I believe um that goes into this more in depth but number one is novel experiences so doing new things.

Number two is around both two and three are kind of what you said uh rolled into two different things. So two is like trying to create stories. So what's interesting is you don't remember your social media feed from yesterday. um you can barely remember a tweet from yesterday despite the fact you scroll past so many novel things but you can remember a movie from two years ago because we like character arcs we like purpose we like emotion we like a buildup so thinking about your kind of day or life into a story like what would the hero do next and then the third one was very closely tied to what you said to which is like this Japanese concept which I'm going to butcher but called like Ichigo Ichi which is essentially this idea that every moment even if it is a recurring moment cuz you're not going be able the novel Max every single day.

Um, but even right now, we're all this exact age that we are in the studio for the first time. Um, so whenever you look for the specific details exactly like you did there, time itself does begin to slow down. down. down. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. The novelty thing is such a huge part. I mean, I wrote about this seven years ago badly and then again 18 months ago slightly better. And uh, the two things novelty and intensity were what I sort of landed on.

And um you're right, it is really really important that people don't want to miss their lives. You objectively arrive but subjectively not feel it. And this thing this sort of sense of stuff rushing past. I think it's something that's particularly felt by people that are optimizers because by virtue of optimizing you find what works and then you rinse and repeat it. That's what routine is. And uh the problem with that is it actually compresses time together. My best my favorite example of this is uh your drive to work.

Yeah. Your drive to work is something that you've done 500, a thousand, 2,000 times throughout your life, throughout that one job, that one office. Can you tell me anything unique about that drive? It's compressed into basically a single memory. Except for that one day when it was icy and the car skidded backward. Well, what's that? That's novelty and intensity. And it's also called the holiday effect. Why is it that holidays seem to stretch out? I think about this trip I took to Africa nearly a decade ago with an ex-girlfriend.

And I can remember the squeak of the leather shoes of the porter and the ornithology book. This weathered ornithology book that he was carrying. And the steps down the steps were rickety. And he the bell boy offered to carry my bag, but I felt bad. So I took I can't remember the [ __ ] 16-digit number on the front of my credit card that I've had for [ __ ] 3 years. Why? Well, because novelty and intensity. And um the more that I think people can just try and ratchet that into their lives.

And it's strange because if you have too much novelty, you end up with chaos and you don't actually gain any of the benefits of consistency and reliability. Yeah. There's no compounding because the the environment changes so quickly that you can't get any in there, right? But yeah, that you you've hit on something I think is super important. Well, it's cool cuz like who lives it? because I, you know, I see all this advice, right, whether it's on X or it's in podcasts and it's like, you know, here's a study or here's a here's a quote I love, but um it's like, okay, what do are you doing this?

How are you are you doing this? What do you do? Like I like your burger example. And then if you could find somebody in your life that actually lives that way, it's like a game changer because super contagious once you just notice the delta. Like if I sit next to you and I notice that you sit differently or that you eat differently when we go in order, it's very apparent to me when my peers do something different than me. And so for me, like my my trainer is a guy who basically is like imagine never having listened to any of the podcasts and self-help at all, but you just did all those things.

That's basically him. His guys like I've I've seen him probably 5 days a week for the last 5 years. Um and it shows. And also he I've never seen him have a bad day. like not even like in a bad mood. I could be late. He can get defender bender. Never never seen this guy rocked. And so that's kind of like seeing a billionaire but for mood. It's like what? I don't know what that is, but that's incredible. You have a lot of good mood. How do you do this [ __ ] And he tells me cuz I've noticed like what does he do differently?

He's always playing little mind games, little mini games. So I've told the story once before on our podcast, but people have come up to me like years later mentioning like I love that story about your trainer. And it's this DMV story. I don't know if I've never told you, but he had to go to the DMV. So, he comes to my house and he's like he's like, "Dude, um he's like, "Today's the day." I'm like, "What's what's today?" And he goes, "I've been driving for the last 2 years with a expired license, and it's been this low underlying anxiety every time I drive of what if I get pulled over, I've got this expired license." And he's like, "I've just been avoiding going to the DMV cuz DMV is terrible." He goes, "So, today I did something different." Basically, he went on Yelp and he went to go look where is the DMV and you know it has like Google has like star ratings or Yelp has like ratings.

So DMV is basically like the lowest rated venue on Yelp and so it's like one and a half stars and he goes, "How do I have a fivestar DMV experience?" So he just asks himself a new question, creates a game out of it. And so he's like, "Okay." He's like, "I can't go there and expect them to give me fivestar hospitality." He's like, "I'm going to go as a fivestar customer." So he just changed his mindset. He's like, "I will go as a fivestar customer and I think I'll have a fivestar experience." So, he goes, he parks.

He walks in with a little pep in his step. He holds the door. He's not trying to rush in line. He's like, "You guys all go. Yeah, yeah, go. I'll be behind you." And one of the women that he let in, actually, she was working there. She was just doing a shift change. He's joking around with her, sort of flirting with her on the way in. Um, this sort of like big old lady at the DMV. And so, she's like, "What are you here for, honey?" And he's like, "I got to get my license.

I've been driving without it, you know, expired for 2 years and like today's the day. It's gonna be amazing when I get this license. I'm gonna feel so good. And she goes, "You know what? Come with me." Takes him front of the line, gets him the thing. He's supposed to do a driving test. She just signs off on it, gets him his license. He ends up having this five-star experience at the DMV, which was kind of like running the 4-minute mile or something. It's like this, like, if you can have a great experience at the DMV, you can have a great experience in any condition, right?

Like, I don't need to achieve X to have great experience. And so his fivestar DMV has stuck with me because now you could play that game pretty much any I'm going through TSA right now. How do I like how do I have five star? What if I was James Bond and how I kind of smoothly went through this versus just dragging ass like I normally do. And I I found that that's like novelty without being like today I need to go on this new hike, new vacation, new because that's hard to do and most people can't do it.

What I like is he brought the novelty into like the everyday and you become sort of invincible when you do that. He romanticized his DMV experience. Correct. Correct. Correct. That's exactly what he did. Which is different to you who tries to romance your DMV experience. Yes. I hit on the lady who's giving me the license and it works every single man. man. man. Come on now. You know what? That's a beautiful to to make it practical. That is a beautiful example of something you alluded to earlier, which I think is a summation of what you so beautifully wrote about, which is being childlike.

In the Bible, God calls us multiple times to have childlike faith, to be like children in everything that we do. And somewhere along the way, we grow up and we start taking everything so seriously. seriously. seriously. And to say, you said earlier, you said, you know, just wait when you have a kid and everything's novel, you can spin this and they're like, whoa. Cuz everything is that was Disneyland right there. right there. right there. Exactly. That that that's like I that's why I think it's so important in the Bible is the ultimate self-help book.

It's such good advice. Just be childlike in everything that you do and that pulls you into the present moment. Huberman did a min episode recently on the importance of play in longevity and how as we get old, we just stop playing and stop moving in that way and we die from that. And in my life lately, I've just been like the curious six-year-old inside of me again. me again. me again. What did we do in the park the other day? day? day? We played. We threw the ball.

We walked past I know that you used to have a basketball in front of you on your We did a pod and he was just a mini b mini leather basket. I always have this little ball just tossing it around. So fun. And uh we were walking through the park and some dog must have just left a relatively good condition tennis ball like okay we're turning around and spent 15 minutes just unloading on our rotator cuffs. cuffs. cuffs. I'm still you was that audible in a full on but that it was it was such a just little kid young boy moment because at the same time Chris and I are walking and we both see the ball and I bend down as I'm bending down Chris goes yep and we didn't have to say anything.

Yep. And we immediately started playing toss. It just burned 20 minutes. It was just so fun. fun. fun. I have this uh phrase, sorry, I have this phrase called uh uh dogs, kids, and dead people. And I was like, what what is that? It's basically that's who I want to spend time with and learn from because you want to learn about like unconditional love, be with a dog, right? A dog is like loyal, it's a great friend, it's a great pet, right? Then kids are just like childlike wonder about everything.

And the dead people is like rather than spending my time consuming tweets and Tik Toks that people put 20 seconds into, it's like this guy put 20 years of his life into this book. Like go go go hang with the dead. You'll you know it'll be better for you. And so just hanging changing who I hung with kids, dogs, and dead people was like a pretty big game changer for you know overall enjoyment. Who's your favorite dead person that you've discovered? you've discovered? you've discovered? Um Um Um who's my favorite dead person I've discovered discovered discovered right now?

I'm hang right now like I told you I was reading this like stoicism book and so uh which is like whatever pretty cliche but there's a guy who wrote a book that basically summarizes like here's what Aristotle was saying here's a Socrates saying then this guy was all about suffering to prove himself so he kind of lived a pretty tough life this guy was doing this and they exiled him to this island it's basically like a walk through all the stoics and it's pretty quick like it summarizes all of them and like the slight nuances of the different schools of thought that they had because they were basically all influencers and so one guy had this school of thought he influenced he got all these people behind him and then this other guy branched out and spun it off and was like, "Yeah, it's that but without the suffering.

It's way more fun over here." And then they all got really popular and so on and so forth. And so they're all dead now. But learning from their, you know, their philosophies obviously is so valuable. valuable. valuable. A quick aside, most people think that they're dehydrated because they don't drink enough water. Turns out water alone isn't just the problem, it's also what's missing from it. Which is why for the last 5 years I've started every single morning with a cold glass of element in water. Element is an electrolyte drink with a sciencebacked ratio of sodium, potassium, and magnesium.

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Yeah. Where like so for example a lot of the time what I've noticed with people that get into stoicism they almost have like reverse stoicism. So when things go well they'll use the stoicism to keep it in and then when things go bad they just lose the [ __ ] So it's like now you've like lost both all of the downside and none all of the downside and none of the upside. Yeah. You're correct. Correct. you've insulated yourself from getting too excited. excited. excited. Are you saying they're doing it wrong or are you saying the philosophy tells you to do that?

I think it's a little bit of both. Like my dad always gave me this great piece of advice which is whenever something goes well, try and think how down you'd be if it didn't go well and at least enjoy it that much. So even if you are going to have your downs, at least have your ups. And I guess my concern with stoicism at times it's a little bit I don't know, it's a little bit dry or it's a it makes people a little bit more numb which I don't particularly like.

There's a great speaking I think he's dead now. He wrote this in the 50s. Have you heard of um masturbation? Well, Well, Well, well, not no I'm assuming. I say it a little differently. As an Indian man. Yes. It's when you're you watch a video of a mom with a Bring him in. Bring in the mother. We got an active shooter. Um so um basically it's it's a guy called um Ellis and he had it's like rational emotive behavioral therapy. So, it's like a spin-off of cognitive like a it's like a spin-off of cognitive behavioral therapy.

And essentially his idea, I think it's lovely, is that he basically has like a very very small rule. He goes everything's fair game apart from you can never use the word must to yourself or like this has to happen. And what I've actually realized with a lot a lot of things of myself is you almost because you try so hard and you put so much pressure on yourself that you end up there's two things. There's either choking, which is when you overthink, when you think too much in the moment, like an athlete that can't throw the basketball shot, or there's um uh what's the opposite of choking?

It's um clutch, like coming through in the clutch. No, there's um uh panicking. So, panicking is when you don't think at all and you just do something reckless. So, like scuba divers that will just grab the oxygen when they know they shouldn't do it. They can see themselves, but they do it. do it. do it. Overthink and underthink. Exactly. So um uh REBT essentially this masturbation idea he essentially has this concept which you can basically say anything about yourself desire anything but never say oh this podcast has to go well to has to go well today or else because as soon as you do that you activate the flight or fight response and you notice like a lot of people that are type A people that probably listen to this sort of [ __ ] um it's often like an extreme statement so you can still say I really want this to go well it's not like stoicism where it's whatever happens happens.

None of it matters because you kind of lose a little bit of the edge, but you just I really want this to go well today. And even if it doesn't, I'll be okay. And it's just that little bit of the edge that just gets it in that perfect like Goldilock zone between the two, which I think um which I think's missed by Stoicism. It's almost it's almost a degree of surrender behind the intention. Surrendering to the experience and being fully open to whatever comes up, but hoping it goes a certain way.

My friend Nick Kadina has this great quote. We live in a universe that what we run from chases us and what we chase runs from us. us. us. So if you're constantly if we sit down like god this has to be a banger. It has to be a profound conversation. It would be the opposite of all of those things and Tom Cruz probably never would have walked in. walked in. walked in. But we just sat down here to shoot the [ __ ] that's been a blast. It's a degree of surrender with an intention or hope that it goes a certain way but also giving into the experience.

I did uh this emotions retreat with Joe Hudson in September and it was 12 hours a day for 7 days on a flower farm in Santa Rosa of just very very deep very difficult emotional work and you had to write an intention before you went in and this intention would go on this huge piece of paper and we'd be writing loads of stuff and it was on the wall and everybody could see what it was that you'd written throughout the throughout the week and uh some people's intentions were really big and really grand and I felt so m felt really stupid.

I was kind of ashamed of mine cuz it felt so small and it felt so silly. Uh and by the end of the week, I'd just completely fallen in love with it. And it was my favorite definition of safety now, of emotional safety, of feeling like you're enough, of feeling like you belong, of feeling like you're supposed to be there. And it was I'm okay no matter what happens. And that sense of this goes well, this goes badly, the power goes out, it doesn't. Tom Cruz comes in, Bonnie Blue, like whatever goes on, I'm okay no matter what happens.

And just that again that sort of sense of relaxing it's a little bit of Janna the meditation technique that me and George are playing with at the moment. But on the the the good luck bad luck thing I came across a quote that I'd already seen a bunch and I wrote about it this week. Cormarmac McCarthy you never know what worst luck your bad luck has saved you from. And uh there's this line uh I told this story to George this week and he was able to work out who it was but it's [ __ ] fantastic.

So, in the mid '9s, there was a single mother living in near poverty in Edinburgh. When she left her first marriage, it wasn't a quiet partying. She's described the relationship as abusive. She fled to Portugal with her baby daughter and a suitcase that contained the early chapters of a book that she was working on. At one point, her ex-husband hid the manuscript trying to prevent her from leaving with it. She was clinically depressed and contemplating suicide. She couldn't afford to heat her flat properly, so she pushed a pram to cafes to write while her daughter slept.

The manuscript was rejected by 12 publishers. That's 12 people telling her in different ways that it wasn't good enough. The rejection wasn't abstract. It was survival level. If the book failed, so did her last attempt at building a life. The humiliation of those refusals became momentum. JK Rowling went on to sell 500 million copies in the Harry Potter series globally and became richer than the queen. queen. queen. You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from. [ __ ] money, dude. That's why she has a great line where she goes uh rock bottom is the most solid foundation to build from.

Arthur Brooks has got this line where he says psychology is biology and basically you can't try and trick what's your thing about um trying to think your way out of overthinking is like trying to sniff your way out of cocaine addiction. It's so [ __ ] banger George. What you got? Uh did have you guys seen the uh you probably all seen this. Have you seen the McDonald's CEO thing that's been going viral? It's uh it's pretty. Have you been following this? Uh so so the CEO of McDonald's tries to do a uh a promotional event for the new Big Arch, which kind of worked because it went viral, but not for the right reason.

So I don't know if you've seen this. Check this out this out this out with You've heard about it. Here it is. The Big Arch. First of all, is this what you thought it'd look like? Tested already. Tested already. Tested already. It's in Portugal, Germany, Canada. I love this product. It is so good. I'm gonna do a tasting right now, but I'm gonna eat this for my lunch, just so you know. So, here we go. Holy cow. God, that is a big burger. We've got a very unique kind of sesame poppy sort of bun on it.

We've got two quarter pound patties, a delicious big arch sauce, and of course, some lettuce. So, oh, there's so much going on with this. First of all, let's try to get this thing. I don't even know. me trying to unhook a brawl for the first issue. If you had my narration see those kind of coming out. All right, the moment of truth. It's barely gone. That is so good. That's a big bite for a big bite. It's distinctively McDonald's. Only McDonald's could do this type of burger, but it also is unlike anything else on our menu.

It's a delicious product. You know, you've got sort of the cheeses and the gooness, but those crispy onions as well gives a nice texture. And of course, we've got the pickles. So, uh, I'm gonna enjoy the rest of my lunch, but Big Arch probably when you can get it. Sort of cheeses is a great way to describe whatever's on that burger. You know, he's basically like lying when he's like, I'm going to eat this later off camera, but I'm definitely going to eat this. eat this.

eat this. Yeah, totally. I want to be clear. I'm going to finish this. I do this all the time. That made me feel physically ill. That made me feel physically uncomfortable to watch that. watch that. watch that. It's like watching an android try to be a human. It was very strange. How did that get out? Like from the lab. Like a lab leak. What do you mean? Like the actual That wasn't him. That wasn't him catching something. catching something. catching something. What the Oh, no. Let's go.

Oh, let's go. Wait. Look at the tie length on Ben right now. Can we just admire? You may have to turn around. Turn around to the camera. Show the Show the length of the tie. tie. tie. That's your That's your That's your Ben wore his son's tie. Do we all try the the big arch with the McDonald CEO bite? Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Are you passing? Can you just reenact? Reenact the CEO. It's Yeah. What was it like he was picking up an act?

Calls the red wire to the big arch. Enjoy the product, Michael. The product. This is a great product. Wow. This is mechanically engineered. Oh, it's so it's so wet. Oh, we all got big arches. It's so wet. It is unbelievable. All right, I'm going to take a big bite for a big guy. You know that scene in Spongebob's Krabby Prabby Patty? This is the tiniest little bit of Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. M Oh, it's medium rare. That's good. That's good. I want my McDonald's beef to be medium rare.

Did it maintain the perfect semen on this? Does it still maintain its perfect circular shape? That's a unique poppy seed. I've never seen a bun like that. He said, "We have sort of a sesame." What What do you mean sort of a sesame seed? I'm ready. [ __ ] it. I love the way he used uh the word product. That a good rule of thumb is no consumer uses the word product or consumer. consumer. consumer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I shall now consume product. Everybody, hello fellow kids. Would you like to consume product?

Is it good? No, no problems. Yeah. How is it? How is the big archetizing? archetizing? archetizing? That's what he should have done if he made me want to eat it. But luckily I already love a double quarter pounder. So this is this is great. It's not that special. But yeah, basically the CEO decided that he was going to [ __ ] torpedo himself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny to think how did that get out as if as if that wasn't meant to be for public consumption. Yes.

Well, I wonder if they it's maybe a Machavelian thing from the social media manager. manager. manager. You think it's an You think it's an accidental? I thought that was a promo. Everyone's smart. Jared, throw up the uh the meme I have on the the dock of the McDonald's thing. It's so funny. Um I quite like it. When uh when Ben was looking for his McDonald's uniform, he went on Facebook Marketplace. This is This is the CEO of McDonald's right now. right now. right now. Jesus [ __ ] Christ.

The um he goes on Facebook Marketplace and he found somebody who has who was selling a uniform and she goes like, "Oh yeah, sure. Like I you need it for work." And Ben was like, "Yeah, I need it for work." That's the actual uniform. No. No. No. And then she, well, the woman you were messaging was, you trying to get the uniform. And then she looked him up and was like, "It doesn't look like you work at McDonald's." And she got creeped out, didn't you? didn't you?

didn't you? And did not give him the McDonald's uniform, so he had to make his own. You made that? My wife made this one. Yeah. That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. She ironed on the M. Did she make the tie, too, or did you get that at Baby Gap? Gap? Gap? It's a perfect length, man. I think Ben's been in uniform waiting for the big orange moment with Tom Cruz in the green room. green room. green room. This [ __ ] Ben and McDonald's uniform and Tom Cruz.

This is This is might be like the completely original scenario. This doesn't exist in any other timelines or realities. This is the first in a thousand a thousand universes. There's only one where Ben was dressed as a McDonald's guy next to a Tom Cruz impersonator waiting to give us the food. food. food. During the break, I said, "Oh, can I get a napkin? Tom Cruz spilled new tonic on the table." And I said, now that's a sentence that's never been said before. said before. said before.

The first of your bloodline to ever do that. that. that. I give that out of 10 on three. Say your rating. Ready? One, two, three, seven. Interesting. Wow. Interesting. Wow. Interesting. Wow. Not bad. Not bad. Not bad. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. Yeah. A quick aside, there is a stat that genuinely surprised me when I first heard it. 95% of people don't get enough fiber. Not because they're being careless, but because hitting your daily fiber target through food alone is actually quite hard. But that's why Momentus built Fiber Plus.

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at checkout. at checkout. I think there's an upper bound for McDonald's. McDonald's. McDonald's. Yeah, I think if it breaks a seven, it's not coming from McDonald's. Except for the filt of fish, I will die on that hill. fast sandwich and fast food. food. food. Um, Um, Um, what do you think they're trying to Is this just every company CEO now needs to do self- branding? Just build a personal Yeah. Yeah. Everybody needs to have a personal brand. brand. brand. Yeah. I don't know. He's been basically only in front of shareholders, you can tell.

And this was like this big coming out party and only in front of reptilian people. It's a freaking lizard, man. Dude, if I was ever on the fence about that conspiracy, he just proved it. Yeah, but like if Zuck, it took 20 years for Zuck to do this transformation, right? Do you remember when he was like a lizard? He literally had like a thing where you could find this where he was like, was like, was like, "Uh, I was a human. I am a human. I I am a human, right?

He literally was a I am a human, right? He literally was doing that baby rays." Yep. Yep. Yep. And now he's just like swagged out and awesome and like that's what happens. You get four figure testosterone and everything goes well. All right. Um, how about I tell you about this? Have you heard of the beer mile? mile? mile? The beer mile? Yes. I won one last year. Yes. You won a beer mile. Beat Devon Lev in the beer mile at run. Do you want to explain what it is?

Can we guess? It's Yeah. George, what is your guess? What is the beer mile? You drink beer and run during before. Directionally accurate. During. During. During. So the beer mile is I wish I was being facitious when I said this. I think it's more painful than any marathon or ultra I've run cuz it's such an acute pain for such a short time. So the goal of the beer mile is simple. You run one mile and every quarter mile you have a beer. So over the course of one mile you drink four beers.

So the gun goes off. Beer one, quarter lap, beer two, quarterlap three, quarterlap four. There's a great photo. I wish I'd known you bringing it up of me. Uh we'll call it an action shot immediately after crossing the finish line on all fours. Just oh just just exiting all of the beer that I had. So that's the Should we create the big arch mile? arch mile? arch mile? I would do that. Interesting that you talk about the beer mile. How about the two beers, two sigs, two Rubik's cubes speedrun?

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Jared. Jared. Jared. Uh, this is, if you were to look at your kind of elementary version of a physical challenge. challenge. challenge. Feels like it now. You know, let's Oh, he's got Ben's tie. My time to beat is 3 minutes 33 seconds. I can't remember the world record, but it's around a minute 30. You can see it up here. Will I beat that? Who knows? But I'm hoping for under JS. Also, the top camera is dead, so hopefully this guy's just on his patio.

Let's do this. And he's got the special. Here we go. I mean, that first beer is what? Four gulps. gulps. gulps. Nice. Nice. Nice. Watch him rip this sig. Watch him rip this sig. It is absolutely absurd. How do you even speed smoke a cigarette? Like that. Like this. That's I think technically sprint smoking a sig. It's uh Holy [ __ ] It's working. Is Usain bolting that [ __ ] That's crazy. It is unbel The hair, the suit. It's really Scott Adams's talent stack in its purest form, isn't it?

Yeah. Bear's interesting. A unicycle is interesting, but a bear on a unicycle is [ __ ] fascinating. [ __ ] fascinating. [ __ ] fascinating. And then two. So, there's got to be a strategy here, right? He starts off with the beer. the beer. the beer. He needs the Joey Chestnut double dip. This makes This makes This makes I don't think you can do I think you must not to do it. But look at his look at his uh cumin. Oh, but see he's doing this. this. this. He's going to be dried up from the sig, so he'll want beer after the second.

I think that's the way it goes. Yeah. I wish they had a shot of his dad crying inside. Watch this. Does he have like a whoop on? We need like a live tracker. What's his strain after this activity? This is He's on track for a world record here, right? And he's just he must be thinking the thinking the thinking the Well, I guess you got a lot of nicotine in you, but he needs to down the beer quickly. quickly. quickly. Is it Is it a world record?

This is a world record. This is the world. This is the new world record. Was he creating the world record or was No, he was trying to beat it. It was uh 130 something. 130 something. 130 something. I like your idea. We need to get this guy in touch with with hands down. hands down. hands down. George, there's tens of them out there doing this. doing this. doing this. 1283, dude. 1283, dude. 1283, dude. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Wow. Crazy. Crazy. Imagine if he realized the camera wasn't rolling the paint.

Who is this small Asian kid he just showed? I think he just called someone editor. editor. editor. the former champion. Yeah, that was the former champion that we know. Well, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, that was something. Well, yeah. I mean, that's what you got to do next. The two beers, two sigs, two Rubik's Cube speedrun. I did get challenged to do cuz I talked about the beer mile in content. I got challenged to do the file fish mile because I'm convicted on the fact that I think the file fish is the ultimate fast food sandwich.

Yeah. And so I think what I'll do is I'll run a quarter mile and every quarter mile swim to Alcatraz. So down a file oftish swim down another filt of fish. Mentally I'll already be in Alcatraz. It doesn't matter where that's what uh that's what Ross Edgely is great at. So Ross was the first guy to swim around the UK. He did it in 9 months something like that. And he swam six hours on six hours off for nine months. It was just bifphasic sleeping. Six hours on six hours off.

And uh I had him on the show 18 months ago and I was trying to work out like what the [ __ ] is it with this guy? He's jacked. He's got this sort of never unhappy [ __ ] mentality which is kind of crazy. Uh but what is it really that causes him to be so good and I realize it's the fact his digestion system like his capacity to digest food. For instance, he swam the longest river in Canada. I think he's done the longest river swim un unbroken.

50 hours that he swam for without touching land, without stopping. 50 hours of swimming. Yeah. So delirious. He tried to do it in Italy and got hyperothermia. hyperothermia. hyperothermia. Then tried to do it in America and got hypothermia and then tried to do it in Canada and did it. He was so cold that the best way that he could heat his body was with piping hot porridge. like burning scalding hot porridge that he just ate and it warmed him from the inside like wearing a hot water bottle.

And uh I realized he's a I don't know about you, if I eat something I have to be upright. If I try and lie down, it's so [ __ ] uncomfortable. I want to burp. It's awful. He's able to do it while swimming. Not only is he [ __ ] horizontal, [ __ ] is swimming. So yeah, I uh He's eating He's actively eating while striding in the water. No. He'll stop and tread water and they'll throw like a banana on a bucket and he'll just [ __ ] force a banana down and pour uh protein shakes and porridge and [ __ ] Video of this guy.

Did you see this? Didn't he swim like the entire coastline of Iceland or some [ __ ] The circumnavigated Iceland. Yeah, ice swimming for this. It's I mean it's the the mad thing about it is he makes it look so effortless. Like lots of people that do crazy things. Yeah. It's not that Rubik's cube thing that is hilarious, hilarious, hilarious, right? Watching Ross do it, it's just business as usual. If you've done it twice a day for nine months, just business as usual. He's a [ __ ] freak. It's crazy.

Well, you know, the the only thing I was going to do, we've had like a lot of America chat and not much British chat. You two Yanks dominating things. So, well, hell yeah, we do. Let's go, baby. That's such a difference in reaction immediately. We we have a physical dict. The European mind could never comprehend. comprehend. comprehend. The [ __ ] is a kilometer? We don't know either. Okay. we don't use it. So, I've got um one of my favorite accounts called uh mental UK headlines. So, it's just different like mental [ __ ] that's happened in the UK, but it's like it's a specific type of mental that would only happen in the UK.

So, um I was thinking, can you give me like the gong? You know, like the news station gong bong gong bong gong bong grandfather banned from US holiday after accidentally ticking terrorist box on visa form. visa form. visa form. Bong Bong Bong rescuers learned that the exotic bird that they found was actually a seagull covered in curry. Sean, that must have been you. That's a good one. Have you ever Googled your Have you ever Googled your birthday and Florida man? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

No. No. No. [ __ ] what's your birthday? April 25th. April 25th. Florida man. Florida man Florida man Florida man in Google please. I don't. I don't. I don't. Ah. Ah. Ah. How do you know that? Why did you know that? that? that? Just know that a Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. Wow. Wow. Wow. Oh, 25th or 20th? I love it. Uh, no, that's right. That's right. 20th. 20th. 20th. Not hillers. Not hillers. Not hillers. No, I know. Okay, good. Okay, good. Okay, good.

There we go. Open that up. Tried to ride an inflatable balloon to through the Bermuda Triangle. Nice. Hamster ball to the Bahamas. Wow, that got more extreme. A Florida man go back. A Florida man was rescued after trying to ride a hamster. See, that's respectable. Ball to the Bahamas. Ride a hamster was definitely exciting, but in a different way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that at the bottom. Orlando's first free STD testing and treatment clinic. clinic. clinic. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. [ __ ] up with us. No judgment, no cost, just care.

just care. just care. Only the first one. How fantastic. How fantastic. How fantastic. All right. Orlando weekly. We need to subscribe. subscribe. subscribe. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Mine is Florida man arrested after dumping heaps of dirt on girlfriend's car. Heaps is an interesting word. How much is constitutes the arrest? Heaps of jail. There's a hilarious Reddit post on Angry Girlfriends. Uh this girlfriend went and posted in the uh am I the [ __ ] subreddit about her boyfriend. Uh Jar, if you could pull this up. It's um Am I the [ __ ] Yeah.

Am I the [ __ ] He's been raiding every meal she cooked for him for like secretly for over a year and she got a glimpse of the she got a glimpse of the spreadsheet and took a secret photo and posted on Reddit like am I overreacting basically to to this spreadsheet? And so it'll be like, you know, spaghetti and meatballs 7.7. And yeah, this is the screenshot. So she took this zoom in. Yeah, you got to zoom in. That's where the magic is. There's really two incredible things in this screenshot.

The first is the rating system and the count. So she's made spaghetti and meatballs 282 times. The rating is 7.7. The average rating 7.5. So, you know, she did a little above average this time. But the trend three arrows up like the stock market. Spaghetti and meatballs is doing well. But then all the women in the comment section are just ripping him because he's also got like AI open asking how to grow his calves. And like all the women are like, "Well, tell that little bird calf [ __ ] that he needs to do this, this, and this." To increase your calf size, you must combine training that targets both the gastro and the solius, the deeper flatter muscle.

In daily life, they're normally fatigue resistant. Specializing techniques. [ __ ] hell. What was the lowest rating average overall? overall? overall? See, she's got chicken tacos 6.9. Chicken stir fry six on Oh, yeah. They average six and a half there. That's not good. That's a tough dish though. He has to like work an audit at Ernston Young or something. This is insane. That's [ __ ] fantastic. So glad you brought up Excel spreadsheets because spreadsheets because spreadsheets because I found something on how dogs can't get pregnant because of underwear and I am terrified of this.

Uh, have you guys ever given any attention to this? The whole underwear thing, cotton clothing, and how it's a big part of the health and wellness world. Austin Floyd's massive on it. He won't shut up about it. Okay. Do you do you pay attention? Bamboo cotton. I listen to him. I listen to stuff. to stuff. to stuff. What is it? Microplastics. That's the issue. Or issue. Or issue. Or uh I I think we're all effectively as we sit here nuking our nuts. That's what I've gathered from this study.

So, a study on Twitter from from the never controversial account Carnivore Aurelius says, "Ladies, you need to be wearing cotton underwear." Now, this is targeted at women, but there's evidence for males as well. Polyester underwear on dogs tanked their progesterone 90%, which earlier we called out the ethics of studies and how we can't do them anymore. Do we draw the line at making dogs infertile through human underwear? underwear? underwear? Polyester underwear on dogs tanked progesterone 90% from 50 NOGS per milliliter to five and 75% of them couldn't get pregnant.

Polyester creates an electrostatic field that disrupts hormone production. 100% cotton only if you want babies. I have never paid any attention to this now and I don't think I own a single pair of cotton underwear. I thought this was fascinating. was fascinating. was fascinating. I'm doing the opposite. I'm going to do this as a form of birth control rather than a vasectomy. I'm just going to start polyester. start polyester. start polyester. I think I'm speedr runninging infertility and I didn't even realize it from my underwear and not anything else in my lifestyle.

So maybe a good incent. George, what's your concern level? Um, you constantly tell me about the sauna as well, right? The sauna's that's why we've got nutsicles in the freezer. You have nutsicles at the house. Nuttles in the freezer. That's a Brian Johnson move right there. Yeah, I've been doing it since. Is that a branded thing or that? No, no, no. Nutsicles. They are purpose-built. Search. Just Google nutsicles for me, please. John. Yeah, there's a problem. There's a guy who stole his nuts. Nutsicles. Nutsicles. Nutsicles.

Drop shimmers are undefeated. Like popsicles, but nutsicles. And uh yeah, they just Brian made this really great point, which is my uh sperm count went up a lot by me going in the sauna. Like, but it only happened when I iced my There they are on the on the top left. Look at those. So, they're special pants. I don't wear the pants because the pants are polyester, but I do just use use use the irony of that. I know. Uh but I just uh pop those on the outside.

the outside. the outside. And uh Oh, I don't want to see the [ __ ] person. [ __ ] person. [ __ ] person. Don't show ME THE DEMO, PLEASE. OKAY. Is he drinking a beer? Go back. Go back. Go back. It's supposed to be for vasectomy recovery or something. Bring him through. Yeah. Amazon model 30. Honestly, if Ben comes in with a [ __ ] pair of nutsicles, I think we found the hook for the show. Everything the viral person shows up and has to answer. Bring him on now. Um, yeah. Basically, Brian couldn't work out whether or not his sperm count went up because sauna is great for his body or because he was icing his balls for 40 minutes a day.

So, it might actually have just been the fact that he was putting them in a really cool environment that was helping to foster [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Well, that's why they're in the sack in the first place, right? But like taking them You're talking about something that's come out of the [ __ ] freezer. Like, oh, this is a little bit little bit little bit I have a friend who does the face plunge you mentioned earlier to change his physiology to his nuts every single morning. morning. morning. Oh, like the nut dunk.

Wait, why didn't you say this when I mentioned the face plunge? Well, you held a secret close. You were talking about panic attacks. It's Yeah, I wouldn't have thought ah testicles. Yes, he every morning for many years now, he has dunked his nuts in a And I was like, but how do you I didn't ask for the demo, but he literally just sits down into an ice bowl every morning for about 2 minutes and he said he's noticed difference in uh the way it hangs, if you will.

And his sperm count also went up and his member appears healthier and fuller now. Pretty interesting stuff. So honestly, well, I mean, between that and sunning the [ __ ] butthole, uh, I guess it's you can go from one to the other, you could that's basically contrast therapy, but just for your [ __ ] groin, eh? Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, boys, I appreciate you being here. First one in the new studio, some technical issues and all the rest of it. I hope everyone enjoyed Tom Cruz and everything else.

I'm really excited. Thank you for being This feels like a like a real special moment to be able to do this for the first one. So, uh, go to McDonald's, get yourself a big arch, and, uh, we'll see you next time. All right, boys. Yes, we did it. Amazing. Let's Amazing. Let's Amazing. Let's [ __ ] go. All right, dinner. We're late for dinner. Dinner. Love you. All right.