Stop Cutting. Build Instead. The Science of Getting Lean the Right Way. | Mind Pump 2839

Stop cutting your way into getting Stop cutting your way into getting leaner. Build into it. It's a way better leaner. Build into it. It's a way better leaner. Build into it. It's a way better approach. We're going to talk about it approach. We're going to talk about it approach. We're going to talk about it right now. right now. right now. >> Feels like this has been the theme of >> Feels like this has been the theme of >> Feels like this has been the theme of our calls lately. I've had a lot of our calls lately. I've had a lot of our calls lately. I've had a lot of people that um want uh want a leaner people that um want uh want a leaner people that um want uh want a leaner physique or uh want to lose body fat. physique or uh want to lose body fat. physique or uh want to lose body fat. And the approach is that they're going And the approach is that they're going And the approach is that they're going about it, I think we would agree, is all about it, I think we would agree, is all about it, I think we would agree, is all wrong. um because they're already at a wrong. um because they're already at a wrong. um because they're already at a place where they're pretty low calorie, place where they're pretty low calorie, place where they're pretty low calorie, they're exercising quite a bit, and yet they're exercising quite a bit, and yet they're exercising quite a bit, and yet they're still, you know, say four or 5% they're still, you know, say four or 5% they're still, you know, say four or 5% body fat away from where they want to body fat away from where they want to body fat away from where they want to be. And they'd be far better off if they be. And they'd be far better off if they be. And they'd be far better off if they increase calories, tried to build increase calories, tried to build increase calories, tried to build muscle, and I think they would, even if muscle, and I think they would, even if muscle, and I think they would, even if they didn't get to the quote unquote they didn't get to the quote unquote they didn't get to the quote unquote body fat percentage they want, I think body fat percentage they want, I think body fat percentage they want, I think they would achieve the physique that they would achieve the physique that they would achieve the physique that they want faster that way. they want faster that way. they want faster that way. >> Yeah. I mean, let's let's let's break >> Yeah. I mean, let's let's let's break >> Yeah. I mean, let's let's let's break down what you mean by by uh boosting down what you mean by by uh boosting down what you mean by by uh boosting calories. So, this is in the context of calories. So, this is in the context of calories. So, this is in the context of eating healthy diet, high protein diet, eating healthy diet, high protein diet, eating healthy diet, high protein diet, so you're not just eating more garbage, so you're not just eating more garbage, so you're not just eating more garbage, but uh it is a fact that more muscle, but uh it is a fact that more muscle, but uh it is a fact that more muscle, healthier muscle, stronger muscle healthier muscle, stronger muscle healthier muscle, stronger muscle is advantageous for fat loss. It's is advantageous for fat loss. It's is advantageous for fat loss. It's extremely advantageous for fat loss. extremely advantageous for fat loss. extremely advantageous for fat loss. It's also extremely advantageous for It's also extremely advantageous for It's also extremely advantageous for longevity. I'm going to pull up a study longevity. I'm going to pull up a study longevity. I'm going to pull up a study right now because I think what's right now because I think what's right now because I think what's happened, I know this actually. I know happened, I know this actually. I know happened, I know this actually. I know this is what's happened over the last I this is what's happened over the last I this is what's happened over the last I don't know how many decades is we've don't know how many decades is we've don't know how many decades is we've taken body fat and made that like the taken body fat and made that like the taken body fat and made that like the number one enemy. Now, this isn't to say number one enemy. Now, this isn't to say number one enemy. Now, this isn't to say that excessive body fat doesn't have that excessive body fat doesn't have that excessive body fat doesn't have >> uh problems and it doesn't cause uh >> uh problems and it doesn't cause uh >> uh problems and it doesn't cause uh health issues. It does, health issues. It does, health issues. It does, >> but I'm going to read you guys a study >> but I'm going to read you guys a study >> but I'm going to read you guys a study that illustrates a little bit that illustrates a little bit that illustrates a little bit >> of what we're talking about. So, the the >> of what we're talking about. So, the the >> of what we're talking about. So, the the study itself says uh this is this is study itself says uh this is this is study itself says uh this is this is this was published this was in Science this was published this was in Science this was published this was in Science Daily. So science daily you can find new Daily. So science daily you can find new Daily. So science daily you can find new studies that are published and this was studies that are published and this was studies that are published and this was a study out of uh Brazil uh and the a study out of uh Brazil uh and the a study out of uh Brazil uh and the summary says having both excess belly summary says having both excess belly summary says having both excess belly fat and low muscle mass isn't just fat and low muscle mass isn't just fat and low muscle mass isn't just unhealthy it's deadly raising the risk unhealthy it's deadly raising the risk unhealthy it's deadly raising the risk of death by 83%. This condition is of death by 83%. This condition is of death by 83%. This condition is called sarcopenic obesity. So this is called sarcopenic obesity. So this is called sarcopenic obesity. So this is people who are over have over fat but people who are over have over fat but people who are over have over fat but very little muscle. Now that's not the very little muscle. Now that's not the very little muscle. Now that's not the part that's going to blow you away. This part that's going to blow you away. This part that's going to blow you away. This is what it says deeper in the study. is what it says deeper in the study. is what it says deeper in the study. This study revealed that individuals This study revealed that individuals This study revealed that individuals with both conditions, so excess belly with both conditions, so excess belly with both conditions, so excess belly fat and less and low muscle mass, had an fat and less and low muscle mass, had an fat and less and low muscle mass, had an 83% higher risk of death compared to 83% higher risk of death compared to 83% higher risk of death compared to those who didn't have them. Here's where those who didn't have them. Here's where those who didn't have them. Here's where it gets wild. it gets wild. it gets wild. >> We also found that the risk of death was >> We also found that the risk of death was >> We also found that the risk of death was reduced by 40% among those with low reduced by 40% among those with low reduced by 40% among those with low muscle mass and no abdominal obesity. muscle mass and no abdominal obesity. muscle mass and no abdominal obesity. Okay, so same person, same little muscle Okay, so same person, same little muscle Okay, so same person, same little muscle mass, they lose the belly fat. Now, mass, they lose the belly fat. Now, mass, they lose the belly fat. Now, their overall risk of death goes down by their overall risk of death goes down by their overall risk of death goes down by 40%. That sounds amazing. Here's where 40%. That sounds amazing. Here's where 40%. That sounds amazing. Here's where it gets crazy. it gets crazy. it gets crazy. Uh, interestingly, and I love how the Uh, interestingly, and I love how the Uh, interestingly, and I love how the researchers say this, individuals with researchers say this, individuals with researchers say this, individuals with abdominal obesity but adequate muscle abdominal obesity but adequate muscle abdominal obesity but adequate muscle mass weren't associated with an mass weren't associated with an mass weren't associated with an increased risk of death. increased risk of death. increased risk of death. >> No risk. >> No risk. >> No risk. >> No risk. >> No risk. >> No risk. >> No risk. It went from 83% to zero. >> No risk. It went from 83% to zero. >> No risk. It went from 83% to zero. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Because the people had muscle. >> Because the people had muscle. >> Because the people had muscle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, they had belly fat and muscle. >> So, they had belly fat and muscle. >> So, they had belly fat and muscle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, um, being strong and fat is >> Okay. So, um, being strong and fat is >> Okay. So, um, being strong and fat is better than being skinny and weak. better than being skinny and weak. better than being skinny and weak. >> Muscle is your insurance. It's >> Muscle is your insurance. It's >> Muscle is your insurance. It's definitely better than being fat and definitely better than being fat and definitely better than being fat and weak. Also, muscle makes fat loss weak. Also, muscle makes fat loss weak. Also, muscle makes fat loss easier. And so, if your goal is fat easier. And so, if your goal is fat easier. And so, if your goal is fat loss, if your goal is to get leaner, you loss, if your goal is to get leaner, you loss, if your goal is to get leaner, you want to lose 60 pounds on the scale, the want to lose 60 pounds on the scale, the want to lose 60 pounds on the scale, the mental approach, the approach you need mental approach, the approach you need mental approach, the approach you need to take is let me build my body into to take is let me build my body into to take is let me build my body into leanness. Let me build the body that I leanness. Let me build the body that I leanness. Let me build the body that I want, not cut or reduce into the body I want, not cut or reduce into the body I want, not cut or reduce into the body I want. Cuz what happens when you when you want. Cuz what happens when you when you want. Cuz what happens when you when you go from being 60 lbs overweight and go from being 60 lbs overweight and go from being 60 lbs overweight and you're not working out and you're like, you're not working out and you're like, you're not working out and you're like, you know what, let me reduce my calories you know what, let me reduce my calories you know what, let me reduce my calories and let me just start moving a lot and let me just start moving a lot and let me just start moving a lot because that's the formula, right? Burn because that's the formula, right? Burn because that's the formula, right? Burn more calories, eat less calories, you more calories, eat less calories, you more calories, eat less calories, you will lose weight, but along with that will lose weight, but along with that will lose weight, but along with that weight that you'll lose, you will lose weight that you'll lose, you will lose weight that you'll lose, you will lose muscle. This is a fact. Every study done muscle. This is a fact. Every study done muscle. This is a fact. Every study done on this shows this. You will lose a good on this shows this. You will lose a good on this shows this. You will lose a good 30 to 50%. Most studies show around 40% 30 to 50%. Most studies show around 40% 30 to 50%. Most studies show around 40% of the weight that you lose will be of the weight that you lose will be of the weight that you lose will be muscle mass. And here's what happens at muscle mass. And here's what happens at muscle mass. And here's what happens at that point. Let's say you've lost 30 of that point. Let's say you've lost 30 of that point. Let's say you've lost 30 of the 60 lbs, but you know, 10 of those the 60 lbs, but you know, 10 of those the 60 lbs, but you know, 10 of those pounds were muscle. You still lost some pounds were muscle. You still lost some pounds were muscle. You still lost some body fat, but you also lost some muscle. body fat, but you also lost some muscle. body fat, but you also lost some muscle. Now you're in a place where it might be Now you're in a place where it might be Now you're in a place where it might be a little healthier. Not a lot healthier a little healthier. Not a lot healthier a little healthier. Not a lot healthier because you lost some muscle. We saw because you lost some muscle. We saw because you lost some muscle. We saw what muscle does, how protective it is what muscle does, how protective it is what muscle does, how protective it is for health. But now you're you're for health. But now you're you're for health. But now you're you're sitting with a metabolic rate that is sitting with a metabolic rate that is sitting with a metabolic rate that is disadvantageous for further fat loss. disadvantageous for further fat loss. disadvantageous for further fat loss. >> So now I'm moving a lot. I'm eating way >> So now I'm moving a lot. I'm eating way >> So now I'm moving a lot. I'm eating way less than I was. I lost half the weight less than I was. I lost half the weight less than I was. I lost half the weight on the scale that I wanted, even though on the scale that I wanted, even though on the scale that I wanted, even though 10 pounds of it was muscle. And I 10 pounds of it was muscle. And I 10 pounds of it was muscle. And I plateau. So now what do I do? Do I plateau. So now what do I do? Do I plateau. So now what do I do? Do I continue down this path? What that looks continue down this path? What that looks continue down this path? What that looks like is more movement and even less like is more movement and even less like is more movement and even less food. food. food. >> And then I plateau again and more >> And then I plateau again and more >> And then I plateau again and more movement and even less food. And then movement and even less food. And then movement and even less food. And then screw it. This sucks. I don't want to do screw it. This sucks. I don't want to do screw it. This sucks. I don't want to do this anymore. and I just go back uh to this anymore. and I just go back uh to this anymore. and I just go back uh to what I was doing before versus I'm going what I was doing before versus I'm going what I was doing before versus I'm going to build into a leaner physique. And to build into a leaner physique. And to build into a leaner physique. And this looks different. this looks different. this looks different. >> It looks like I'm getting stronger. I'm >> It looks like I'm getting stronger. I'm >> It looks like I'm getting stronger. I'm hitting a high protein diet. I'm fueling hitting a high protein diet. I'm fueling hitting a high protein diet. I'm fueling my body because you have to fuel muscle my body because you have to fuel muscle my body because you have to fuel muscle mass. And the scale might not move. It mass. And the scale might not move. It mass. And the scale might not move. It might not move for a little while, but might not move for a little while, but might not move for a little while, but I'm building muscle. By the way, the I'm building muscle. By the way, the I'm building muscle. By the way, the reason why the scale is not moving, even reason why the scale is not moving, even reason why the scale is not moving, even though you're building muscle, you're though you're building muscle, you're though you're building muscle, you're actually kind of losing body fat at the actually kind of losing body fat at the actually kind of losing body fat at the same time. This happens same time. This happens same time. This happens >> uh relatively um commonly, but you might >> uh relatively um commonly, but you might >> uh relatively um commonly, but you might even gain a little bit of weight on the even gain a little bit of weight on the even gain a little bit of weight on the scale. I don't care. I'm building my scale. I don't care. I'm building my scale. I don't care. I'm building my body. I'm building myself into fat loss. body. I'm building myself into fat loss. body. I'm building myself into fat loss. So, you go through this process of So, you go through this process of So, you go through this process of building. 6 months later, man, I am way building. 6 months later, man, I am way building. 6 months later, man, I am way stronger. I'm eating a high protein stronger. I'm eating a high protein stronger. I'm eating a high protein diet. I'm feeding myself whole natural diet. I'm feeding myself whole natural diet. I'm feeding myself whole natural foods. I'm eating when I'm hungry. I foods. I'm eating when I'm hungry. I foods. I'm eating when I'm hungry. I don't even feel like I'm starving. And don't even feel like I'm starving. And don't even feel like I'm starving. And uh I feel great. Uh let me see what uh I feel great. Uh let me see what uh I feel great. Uh let me see what happens when I cut my calories a little happens when I cut my calories a little happens when I cut my calories a little bit. Boom. Fat comes off your body. bit. Boom. Fat comes off your body. bit. Boom. Fat comes off your body. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Way better. much more sustainable >> Way better. much more sustainable >> Way better. much more sustainable approach and I really think the approach and I really think the approach and I really think the mentality uh that we go into with weight mentality uh that we go into with weight mentality uh that we go into with weight loss is really screwing people up. loss is really screwing people up. loss is really screwing people up. >> You know, this also feeds into the >> You know, this also feeds into the >> You know, this also feeds into the strategy that I think that we all landed strategy that I think that we all landed strategy that I think that we all landed on with our clients later in our career on with our clients later in our career on with our clients later in our career when we first would start them, right? I when we first would start them, right? I when we first would start them, right? I remember early on uh getting drilled uh remember early on uh getting drilled uh remember early on uh getting drilled uh about, you know, diet is 75% of your about, you know, diet is 75% of your about, you know, diet is 75% of your results. And so results. And so results. And so >> so much of the conversation when I when >> so much of the conversation when I when >> so much of the conversation when I when I first got a client was around their I first got a client was around their I first got a client was around their eating and I would write out these meal eating and I would write out these meal eating and I would write out these meal plans and tell them to follow that to a plans and tell them to follow that to a plans and tell them to follow that to a tea and you know be all about did you do tea and you know be all about did you do tea and you know be all about did you do it? Did you eat what I told you? Were it? Did you eat what I told you? Were it? Did you eat what I told you? Were you consistent and was so focused on you consistent and was so focused on you consistent and was so focused on that? that? that? >> And then I look, you know, back to like >> And then I look, you know, back to like >> And then I look, you know, back to like when that shifted for me where it became when that shifted for me where it became when that shifted for me where it became I actually stopped really focus. I'd I actually stopped really focus. I'd I actually stopped really focus. I'd have them track to tell me what they ate have them track to tell me what they ate have them track to tell me what they ate so I had an idea of what they were so I had an idea of what they were so I had an idea of what they were consuming. But I really didn't put a lot consuming. But I really didn't put a lot consuming. But I really didn't put a lot of emphasis initially on the diet. I was of emphasis initially on the diet. I was of emphasis initially on the diet. I was like, can I just get this person into like, can I just get this person into like, can I just get this person into lifting weights? And there's something lifting weights? And there's something lifting weights? And there's something really freeing about that for the person really freeing about that for the person really freeing about that for the person to hear a study like that because even to hear a study like that because even to hear a study like that because even if you didn't lose any body fat, but we if you didn't lose any body fat, but we if you didn't lose any body fat, but we put on 10 pounds of muscle, you're at put on 10 pounds of muscle, you're at put on 10 pounds of muscle, you're at such a healthier place than that person. such a healthier place than that person. such a healthier place than that person. Even the person, by the way, who's being Even the person, by the way, who's being Even the person, by the way, who's being told by the doctor, you need to lose told by the doctor, you need to lose told by the doctor, you need to lose weight. weight. weight. >> You need to lose weight. You're way >> You need to lose weight. You're way >> You need to lose weight. You're way overweight. You need to lose weight. overweight. You need to lose weight. overweight. You need to lose weight. >> You still that the version of you with >> You still that the version of you with >> You still that the version of you with 10 pounds more muscle and haven't lost 10 pounds more muscle and haven't lost 10 pounds more muscle and haven't lost any body fat is still better than the any body fat is still better than the any body fat is still better than the person who just loses. person who just loses. person who just loses. >> Oh, yeah. still a trade and a compromise >> Oh, yeah. still a trade and a compromise >> Oh, yeah. still a trade and a compromise by going the cutting route right away by going the cutting route right away by going the cutting route right away and not really focusing on emphasizing and not really focusing on emphasizing and not really focusing on emphasizing the build. There's so many benefits on the build. There's so many benefits on the build. There's so many benefits on the build side. It just it it if you pit the build side. It just it it if you pit the build side. It just it it if you pit them against each other, it's it's quite them against each other, it's it's quite them against each other, it's it's quite insane. I mean like it alleviating pain insane. I mean like it alleviating pain insane. I mean like it alleviating pain uh you know being able to have that kind uh you know being able to have that kind uh you know being able to have that kind of strength ability and and able-bodied of strength ability and and able-bodied of strength ability and and able-bodied uh you know and then down the road like uh you know and then down the road like uh you know and then down the road like obviously it takes a bit more time and obviously it takes a bit more time and obviously it takes a bit more time and is drawn out a bit further but the the is drawn out a bit further but the the is drawn out a bit further but the the long-term effect of that uh and the long-term effect of that uh and the long-term effect of that uh and the resiliency and all the you know your resiliency and all the you know your resiliency and all the you know your immune system you can go down the list immune system you can go down the list immune system you can go down the list of all the systems of the body that it of all the systems of the body that it of all the systems of the body that it benefits. benefits. benefits. >> Yes. But also also here's the other >> Yes. But also also here's the other >> Yes. But also also here's the other thing the other approach doctor's like thing the other approach doctor's like thing the other approach doctor's like you got to lose a bunch of weight. Okay. you got to lose a bunch of weight. Okay. you got to lose a bunch of weight. Okay. So, you're like, "Fine, I'm going to go So, you're like, "Fine, I'm going to go So, you're like, "Fine, I'm going to go into this process, into this process, into this process, >> cut calories, we'll start running." >> cut calories, we'll start running." >> cut calories, we'll start running." >> Okay. The fail rate on that, what I mean >> Okay. The fail rate on that, what I mean >> Okay. The fail rate on that, what I mean by that is, uh, by that is, uh, by that is, uh, >> doing that like crazy. >> doing that like crazy. >> doing that like crazy. >> That's right. If you succeed in losing >> That's right. If you succeed in losing >> That's right. If you succeed in losing the weight, which a small percentage of the weight, which a small percentage of the weight, which a small percentage of people actually carry it out that far people actually carry it out that far people actually carry it out that far because it sucks. It's a crappy process. because it sucks. It's a crappy process. because it sucks. It's a crappy process. It's very, it's difficult enough to It's very, it's difficult enough to It's very, it's difficult enough to change your behaviors in the ways that change your behaviors in the ways that change your behaviors in the ways that we're talking about, which is easier. we're talking about, which is easier. we're talking about, which is easier. Now, you're going to do it the hard way Now, you're going to do it the hard way Now, you're going to do it the hard way or you're just burning a m bunch and or you're just burning a m bunch and or you're just burning a m bunch and eating very little, so you feel like eating very little, so you feel like eating very little, so you feel like crap. That really sucks. But, let's just crap. That really sucks. But, let's just crap. That really sucks. But, let's just say you just are hard-headed and you say you just are hard-headed and you say you just are hard-headed and you stick with it. So you lose your 30 stick with it. So you lose your 30 stick with it. So you lose your 30 pounds. The fail rate, okay? Meaning, pounds. The fail rate, okay? Meaning, pounds. The fail rate, okay? Meaning, uh, the percentage of people that gain uh, the percentage of people that gain uh, the percentage of people that gain the weight back in a year or two, almost the weight back in a year or two, almost the weight back in a year or two, almost 100%. 100%. 100%. >> Okay? So it's not So what Justin said >> Okay? So it's not So what Justin said >> Okay? So it's not So what Justin said about this, the way that we're about this, the way that we're about this, the way that we're explaining, it's a little more drawn explaining, it's a little more drawn explaining, it's a little more drawn out. out. out. >> That infers that there's a faster way to >> That infers that there's a faster way to >> That infers that there's a faster way to do it. No, no, no. The truth is it do it. No, no, no. The truth is it do it. No, no, no. The truth is it doesn't work the other way. doesn't work the other way. doesn't work the other way. >> Well, yeah. It just misleading. Yeah. It >> Well, yeah. It just misleading. Yeah. It >> Well, yeah. It just misleading. Yeah. It doesn't work. doesn't work. doesn't work. >> Like, do you Okay. Do you want to do >> Like, do you Okay. Do you want to do >> Like, do you Okay. Do you want to do this in the way that works or do you this in the way that works or do you this in the way that works or do you want to do this in the way that doesn't want to do this in the way that doesn't want to do this in the way that doesn't work? That's the real way work? That's the real way work? That's the real way >> to present this. And like what you were >> to present this. And like what you were >> to present this. And like what you were saying as a trainer, Adam, uh when I got saying as a trainer, Adam, uh when I got saying as a trainer, Adam, uh when I got good at training, uh I focused on good at training, uh I focused on good at training, uh I focused on getting stronger. This is what we're getting stronger. This is what we're getting stronger. This is what we're going to focus on. We're going to get going to focus on. We're going to get going to focus on. We're going to get >> Well, it's also it's easier it's easier >> Well, it's also it's easier it's easier >> Well, it's also it's easier it's easier for the client. I mean, we just we had a for the client. I mean, we just we had a for the client. I mean, we just we had a caller just recently and uh they called caller just recently and uh they called caller just recently and uh they called in for the first time and f found the in for the first time and f found the in for the first time and f found the podcast. I don't know how many years ago podcast. I don't know how many years ago podcast. I don't know how many years ago he had said. uh and hadn't hadn't bought he had said. uh and hadn't hadn't bought he had said. uh and hadn't hadn't bought a mass program yet, hadn't done anything a mass program yet, hadn't done anything a mass program yet, hadn't done anything like that, but I just followed the like that, but I just followed the like that, but I just followed the advice and radically changed uh his advice and radically changed uh his advice and radically changed uh his physique just from from lifting three physique just from from lifting three physique just from from lifting three days a week, days a week, days a week, >> focusing on getting strong, eating when >> focusing on getting strong, eating when >> focusing on getting strong, eating when he's hungry, eating protein for and he's hungry, eating protein for and he's hungry, eating protein for and that's it. It was just like he and the that's it. It was just like he and the that's it. It was just like he and the his exact words is like it's crazy. my his exact words is like it's crazy. my his exact words is like it's crazy. my whole life I've been struggling with whole life I've been struggling with whole life I've been struggling with weight, being overweight. And he goes, I weight, being overweight. And he goes, I weight, being overweight. And he goes, I had no idea how easy it was, dude. had no idea how easy it was, dude. had no idea how easy it was, dude. >> If you just simply did that and he and >> If you just simply did that and he and >> If you just simply did that and he and he's like, I I don't really track. I he's like, I I don't really track. I he's like, I I don't really track. I don't really do any of these things. I don't really do any of these things. I don't really do any of these things. I just eat my focus on getting protein just eat my focus on getting protein just eat my focus on getting protein centric meals. I lift three days a week. centric meals. I lift three days a week. centric meals. I lift three days a week. I focus on the compound lifts. I'm I focus on the compound lifts. I'm I focus on the compound lifts. I'm hungry. I feed myself like and he goes, hungry. I feed myself like and he goes, hungry. I feed myself like and he goes, I've just completely shifted my And it's I've just completely shifted my And it's I've just completely shifted my And it's easy to maintain. It's easy to do that. easy to maintain. It's easy to do that. easy to maintain. It's easy to do that. So there's this really freeing thing for So there's this really freeing thing for So there's this really freeing thing for the the the person who is struggling the the the person who is struggling the the the person who is struggling with weight to, you know, stop focus with weight to, you know, stop focus with weight to, you know, stop focus hyperfocusing on restricting yourself hyperfocusing on restricting yourself hyperfocusing on restricting yourself from all these foods and like just start from all these foods and like just start from all these foods and like just start with go to the gym and lift weights and with go to the gym and lift weights and with go to the gym and lift weights and try and get strong and and then and then try and get strong and and then and then try and get strong and and then and then if you do anything diet-wise, make an if you do anything diet-wise, make an if you do anything diet-wise, make an effort to eat protein and eat it first effort to eat protein and eat it first effort to eat protein and eat it first in the meal. And that right there will in the meal. And that right there will in the meal. And that right there will shift so much y shift so much y shift so much y >> uh in the right direction that it'll >> uh in the right direction that it'll >> uh in the right direction that it'll give you that momentum that you want and give you that momentum that you want and give you that momentum that you want and it won't feel like you're white it won't feel like you're white it won't feel like you're white knuckling your way through this weight knuckling your way through this weight knuckling your way through this weight loss journey that you think you have to loss journey that you think you have to loss journey that you think you have to go on go on go on >> and it'll get easier and it it it does >> and it'll get easier and it it it does >> and it'll get easier and it it it does take time and and I think that's the take time and and I think that's the take time and and I think that's the other issue is that we have you know other issue is that we have you know other issue is that we have you know these crazy radical transformations in these crazy radical transformations in these crazy radical transformations in short periods of time that we're short periods of time that we're short periods of time that we're marketed to and and we had another live marketed to and and we had another live marketed to and and we had another live caller also today that caller also today that caller also today that >> you know was he gave basically what he >> you know was he gave basically what he >> you know was he gave basically what he was doing. We had these before pictures was doing. We had these before pictures was doing. We had these before pictures since November and where he's at now. since November and where he's at now. since November and where he's at now. And it's like, bro, just his his and the And it's like, bro, just his his and the And it's like, bro, just his his and the whole time his scale hadn't moved, whole time his scale hadn't moved, whole time his scale hadn't moved, right? So scale kind. right? So scale kind. right? So scale kind. >> So he's obviously leaner, way more >> So he's obviously leaner, way more >> So he's obviously leaner, way more muscle. You're on track. muscle. You're on track. muscle. You're on track. >> Yeah. He's like, you're perfect. Just >> Yeah. He's like, you're perfect. Just >> Yeah. He's like, you're perfect. Just extend out what you've done for another extend out what you've done for another extend out what you've done for another 6 months. You'll look back at that 6 months. You'll look back at that 6 months. You'll look back at that picture and go, look at how radically picture and go, look at how radically picture and go, look at how radically the radical change you did from November the radical change you did from November the radical change you did from November to now. And then you'll look back and go to now. And then you'll look back and go to now. And then you'll look back and go six more months like on the same exact six more months like on the same exact six more months like on the same exact path, eating the way you're eating, path, eating the way you're eating, path, eating the way you're eating, training the way you're training, training the way you're training, training the way you're training, >> good, strong, all those things. It's >> good, strong, all those things. It's >> good, strong, all those things. It's also it's also wild because and I get also it's also wild because and I get also it's also wild because and I get it. I get I get it. Like once you it. I get I get it. Like once you it. I get I get it. Like once you finally make the decision to do finally make the decision to do finally make the decision to do something uh you have a sense of something uh you have a sense of something uh you have a sense of urgency. You've made the decision now. urgency. You've made the decision now. urgency. You've made the decision now. It's like that's it. I'm going to do It's like that's it. I'm going to do It's like that's it. I'm going to do something about it, right? something about it, right? something about it, right? >> But the reason why you feel this urgency >> But the reason why you feel this urgency >> But the reason why you feel this urgency >> is because you've live you've been >> is because you've live you've been >> is because you've live you've been living the other way for so long. In living the other way for so long. In living the other way for so long. In other words, it you didn't gain 60 lbs other words, it you didn't gain 60 lbs other words, it you didn't gain 60 lbs in 2 months. in 2 months. in 2 months. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Okay. It took you a while. It took you a >> Okay. It took you a while. It took you a >> Okay. It took you a while. It took you a while to get to kind of this point and while to get to kind of this point and while to get to kind of this point and you've been with it for a little while. you've been with it for a little while. you've been with it for a little while. So, I get when you finally make the So, I get when you finally make the So, I get when you finally make the decision, you're like, "I'm done living decision, you're like, "I'm done living decision, you're like, "I'm done living this this way." But I'm going to tell this this way." But I'm going to tell this this way." But I'm going to tell you right now, first off, it takes some you right now, first off, it takes some you right now, first off, it takes some time. Second off, the only way to do it time. Second off, the only way to do it time. Second off, the only way to do it with any amount of long-term forever with any amount of long-term forever with any amount of long-term forever success is going to take a little while. success is going to take a little while. success is going to take a little while. And you have to build into it. If you And you have to build into it. If you And you have to build into it. If you don't build into it, it's just it's not don't build into it, it's just it's not don't build into it, it's just it's not I'm going to tell you right now, it's I'm going to tell you right now, it's I'm going to tell you right now, it's not going to happen. Yeah. not going to happen. Yeah. not going to happen. Yeah. >> It's just not going to happen. >> It's just not going to happen. >> It's just not going to happen. >> You're going to again, I'm going to say >> You're going to again, I'm going to say >> You're going to again, I'm going to say this again. this again. this again. >> If you're hard-headed enough and just >> If you're hard-headed enough and just >> If you're hard-headed enough and just Oh, God. you just grind hard enough and Oh, God. you just grind hard enough and Oh, God. you just grind hard enough and you do it the wrong way. You may lose you do it the wrong way. You may lose you do it the wrong way. You may lose the weight you're trying to lose, but the weight you're trying to lose, but the weight you're trying to lose, but your odds of long-term success are your odds of long-term success are your odds of long-term success are almost zero. almost zero. almost zero. >> Dismal, >> Dismal, >> Dismal, >> which is like, why would you choose? >> which is like, why would you choose? >> which is like, why would you choose? Think about it this way to yourself. I Think about it this way to yourself. I Think about it this way to yourself. I have two paths. Uh, and by the way, I have two paths. Uh, and by the way, I have two paths. Uh, and by the way, I have a map here that tells me that this have a map here that tells me that this have a map here that tells me that this is a dead end. This is a dead end over is a dead end. This is a dead end over is a dead end. This is a dead end over here. Why would you take the dead end? here. Why would you take the dead end? here. Why would you take the dead end? >> Don't take the dead end. Believe what >> Don't take the dead end. Believe what >> Don't take the dead end. Believe what we're saying. And if you don't, look at we're saying. And if you don't, look at we're saying. And if you don't, look at the data. Look at the data on calorie the data. Look at the data on calorie the data. Look at the data on calorie restriction restriction restriction uh and weight loss. Look at the data on uh and weight loss. Look at the data on uh and weight loss. Look at the data on calorie restriction plus excessive calorie restriction plus excessive calorie restriction plus excessive exercise and weight loss. Look how much exercise and weight loss. Look how much exercise and weight loss. Look how much muscle people lose. Now look up the data muscle people lose. Now look up the data muscle people lose. Now look up the data on uh 2 years after people lose weight, on uh 2 years after people lose weight, on uh 2 years after people lose weight, what percentage of people gain back. Fi what percentage of people gain back. Fi what percentage of people gain back. Fi find all these studies. You'll see for find all these studies. You'll see for find all these studies. You'll see for yourself. Dead end. Dead end. Dead end. yourself. Dead end. Dead end. Dead end. yourself. Dead end. Dead end. Dead end. Now find the studies on longevity and Now find the studies on longevity and Now find the studies on longevity and how strength is a great predictor of how strength is a great predictor of how strength is a great predictor of mortality. A grip strength test is a a mortality. A grip strength test is a a mortality. A grip strength test is a a phenomenal predictor of mortality. phenomenal predictor of mortality. phenomenal predictor of mortality. Nothing special about the grip. It's Nothing special about the grip. It's Nothing special about the grip. It's just a proxy for strength. Then look at just a proxy for strength. Then look at just a proxy for strength. Then look at the data on people who are overweight the data on people who are overweight the data on people who are overweight with strength or with muscle. how with strength or with muscle. how with strength or with muscle. how healthy they seem to be. healthy they seem to be. healthy they seem to be. >> I know. Yeah. >> I know. Yeah. >> I know. Yeah. >> Now, of course, they'd be better off >> Now, of course, they'd be better off >> Now, of course, they'd be better off leaner, but it just goes to show you the leaner, but it just goes to show you the leaner, but it just goes to show you the power of strength and muscle. And if you power of strength and muscle. And if you power of strength and muscle. And if you look around in society, everybody, I look around in society, everybody, I look around in society, everybody, I know what it looks like to everybody. know what it looks like to everybody. know what it looks like to everybody. This is what it looks like. It looks This is what it looks like. It looks This is what it looks like. It looks like we're walking around in an obesity like we're walking around in an obesity like we're walking around in an obesity epidemic. In fact, that term is epidemic. In fact, that term is epidemic. In fact, that term is everybody's familiar with it, obesity everybody's familiar with it, obesity everybody's familiar with it, obesity epidemic. But if you dig a little deeper epidemic. But if you dig a little deeper epidemic. But if you dig a little deeper and you have people lift something or and you have people lift something or and you have people lift something or squeeze something or press something, squeeze something or press something, squeeze something or press something, what you're really looking at is an what you're really looking at is an what you're really looking at is an epidemic of weakness. Yeah. epidemic of weakness. Yeah. epidemic of weakness. Yeah. >> Or throw something. >> Or throw something. >> Or throw something. >> And her muscle. That's why what Dr. >> And her muscle. That's why what Dr. >> And her muscle. That's why what Dr. Gabriel Lions, her whole message that Gabriel Lions, her whole message that Gabriel Lions, her whole message that she's been touting for some time now, I she's been touting for some time now, I she's been touting for some time now, I think is think is think is >> so true, so powerful. And I know I'm >> so true, so powerful. And I know I'm >> so true, so powerful. And I know I'm sure everybody's tired of hearing me say sure everybody's tired of hearing me say sure everybody's tired of hearing me say this because I've said it so many times this because I've said it so many times this because I've said it so many times on the podcast, but I think another on the podcast, but I think another on the podcast, but I think another reason why this is so difficult s is you reason why this is so difficult s is you reason why this is so difficult s is you you alluded to that, you know, you're you alluded to that, you know, you're you alluded to that, you know, you're you're super motivated to make this you're super motivated to make this you're super motivated to make this change. You've been living with all this change. You've been living with all this change. You've been living with all this body fat and so you want and it it it is body fat and so you want and it it it is body fat and so you want and it it it is the one thing uh that doesn't serve you the one thing uh that doesn't serve you the one thing uh that doesn't serve you the the more you do or the harder you go the the more you do or the harder you go the the more you do or the harder you go at it, right? Like every at it, right? Like every at it, right? Like every >> in terms of the effort. >> in terms of the effort. >> in terms of the effort. >> Yeah. everything else in your life. And >> Yeah. everything else in your life. And >> Yeah. everything else in your life. And I think that's why this is it gets so I think that's why this is it gets so I think that's why this is it gets so difficult for people is because difficult for people is because difficult for people is because logically you would think, well, if the logically you would think, well, if the logically you would think, well, if the harder I push, the more I work out, the harder I push, the more I work out, the harder I push, the more I work out, the more I do these things, the faster I get more I do these things, the faster I get more I do these things, the faster I get the results I want. It's the one thing the results I want. It's the one thing the results I want. It's the one thing in life that's like that's not true. in life that's like that's not true. in life that's like that's not true. There there is a right there is an There there is a right there is an There there is a right there is an actual right balance and there's a actual right balance and there's a actual right balance and there's a science to this and if that is off it's science to this and if that is off it's science to this and if that is off it's going to be a hell of a time trying to going to be a hell of a time trying to going to be a hell of a time trying to get there versus what what you hear get there versus what what you hear get there versus what what you hear these callers when you do the right dose these callers when you do the right dose these callers when you do the right dose appropriately it it it's very easy but appropriately it it it's very easy but appropriately it it it's very easy but when you try and muscle your way meaning when you try and muscle your way meaning when you try and muscle your way meaning like you know work as hard as you can to like you know work as hard as you can to like you know work as hard as you can to get to there it doesn't serve you. get to there it doesn't serve you. get to there it doesn't serve you. >> Yeah. Look look it's really like this >> Yeah. Look look it's really like this >> Yeah. Look look it's really like this like there's a smart way to do it. I'll like there's a smart way to do it. I'll like there's a smart way to do it. I'll say it that way because I I hear what say it that way because I I hear what say it that way because I I hear what you're saying. Uh we'll um relate or you're saying. Uh we'll um relate or you're saying. Uh we'll um relate or correlate our effort to that meaning uh correlate our effort to that meaning uh correlate our effort to that meaning uh or correlating to the result that we or correlating to the result that we or correlating to the result that we get. The effort is what produces the get. The effort is what produces the get. The effort is what produces the result. But if I told you to dig a a a result. But if I told you to dig a a a result. But if I told you to dig a a a hole in your backyard for a pool hole in your backyard for a pool hole in your backyard for a pool and I gave you a spoon, would you go out and I gave you a spoon, would you go out and I gave you a spoon, would you go out there and be like, "Let's go." I mean, there and be like, "Let's go." I mean, there and be like, "Let's go." I mean, let me tell you, you'd work your ass let me tell you, you'd work your ass let me tell you, you'd work your ass off. You'd be sweating your butt off. off. You'd be sweating your butt off. off. You'd be sweating your butt off. You get almost no work done with a You get almost no work done with a You get almost no work done with a spoon. you'd go get a backhoe and you spoon. you'd go get a backhoe and you spoon. you'd go get a backhoe and you would do way less work and that hole would do way less work and that hole would do way less work and that hole would be dug uh in less than a day. would be dug uh in less than a day. would be dug uh in less than a day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So that's that's that's really the way >> So that's that's that's really the way >> So that's that's that's really the way you got to think about this is yeah you you got to think about this is yeah you you got to think about this is yeah you could you could make it as you can make could you could make it as you can make could you could make it as you can make it really hard you can do anything it really hard you can do anything it really hard you can do anything stupid stupid stupid >> a better tool for the job. >> a better tool for the job. >> a better tool for the job. >> You can make it really dumb and make it >> You can make it really dumb and make it >> You can make it really dumb and make it really hard on yourself or you could really hard on yourself or you could really hard on yourself or you could choose the easier path. And here's what choose the easier path. And here's what choose the easier path. And here's what it feels like when you build yourself it feels like when you build yourself it feels like when you build yourself into a lean physique. This is what it into a lean physique. This is what it into a lean physique. This is what it feels like. Okay once this once the ball feels like. Okay once this once the ball feels like. Okay once this once the ball gets rowing. You got to get it, give it gets rowing. You got to get it, give it gets rowing. You got to get it, give it a second, but the ball will start to a second, but the ball will start to a second, but the ball will start to roll. You'll get stronger and and you're roll. You'll get stronger and and you're roll. You'll get stronger and and you're not going to notice much yet except for not going to notice much yet except for not going to notice much yet except for the fact that you're way stronger. You the fact that you're way stronger. You the fact that you're way stronger. You got more energy. You feel better. Okay, got more energy. You feel better. Okay, got more energy. You feel better. Okay, that's the the initial stages. But once that's the the initial stages. But once that's the the initial stages. But once that ball gets rolling, this is what that ball gets rolling, this is what that ball gets rolling, this is what it's going to feel like. You're going to it's going to feel like. You're going to it's going to feel like. You're going to be like, "This is weird. I'm getting be like, "This is weird. I'm getting be like, "This is weird. I'm getting leaner. I don't feel like I'm doing leaner. I don't feel like I'm doing leaner. I don't feel like I'm doing much." Or, "How is it I'm eating this much." Or, "How is it I'm eating this much." Or, "How is it I'm eating this much and I'm I'm getting leaner. Like, much and I'm I'm getting leaner. Like, much and I'm I'm getting leaner. Like, this doesn't make any sense. I don't this doesn't make any sense. I don't this doesn't make any sense. I don't feel like I'm working out that much. I feel like I'm working out that much. I feel like I'm working out that much. I don't feel like I'm killing myself." don't feel like I'm killing myself." don't feel like I'm killing myself." These are the comments, by the way, that These are the comments, by the way, that These are the comments, by the way, that really good trainers get from their really good trainers get from their really good trainers get from their clients. If you're a good trainer, the clients. If you're a good trainer, the clients. If you're a good trainer, the comments you should get from your comments you should get from your comments you should get from your clients typically sound like that. Like, clients typically sound like that. Like, clients typically sound like that. Like, you know what I mean? You know, when we you know what I mean? You know, when we you know what I mean? You know, when we work out, we do a good workout. I don't work out, we do a good workout. I don't work out, we do a good workout. I don't feel like I'm putting the effort in to feel like I'm putting the effort in to feel like I'm putting the effort in to look the way. This is crazy. How am I look the way. This is crazy. How am I look the way. This is crazy. How am I getting these kind of results? Like, getting these kind of results? Like, getting these kind of results? Like, we're doing it smart. we're doing it smart. we're doing it smart. >> I can still sit down without groaning, >> I can still sit down without groaning, >> I can still sit down without groaning, you know? It's like it's wild. you know? It's like it's wild. you know? It's like it's wild. >> So, but but it's really about the >> So, but but it's really about the >> So, but but it's really about the mentality you go into it. And I just mentality you go into it. And I just mentality you go into it. And I just want to encourage people if your goal is want to encourage people if your goal is want to encourage people if your goal is to get strong, if you make that your to get strong, if you make that your to get strong, if you make that your goal and you feed that goal with whole goal and you feed that goal with whole goal and you feed that goal with whole natural foods, a high protein diet, so natural foods, a high protein diet, so natural foods, a high protein diet, so heavily processed foods will make this heavily processed foods will make this heavily processed foods will make this very difficult. So stay away from that. very difficult. So stay away from that. very difficult. So stay away from that. Whole natural foods, high protein, and Whole natural foods, high protein, and Whole natural foods, high protein, and lift weights and get stronger. That will lift weights and get stronger. That will lift weights and get stronger. That will make the fat loss happen in a make the fat loss happen in a make the fat loss happen in a sustainable way. It'll actually work. So sustainable way. It'll actually work. So sustainable way. It'll actually work. So anyway, I love Which one are you using anyway, I love Which one are you using anyway, I love Which one are you using right now? Is that the glutathione? from right now? Is that the glutathione? from right now? Is that the glutathione? from row. Is it the NAD? row. Is it the NAD? row. Is it the NAD? >> I like their NAD. >> I like their NAD. >> I like their NAD. >> I like both. I like >> I like both. I like >> I like both. I like >> I feel the energy from >> I feel the energy from >> I feel the energy from >> their creatine, too. >> their creatine, too. >> their creatine, too. >> Well, for me right now, Max is really >> Well, for me right now, Max is really >> Well, for me right now, Max is really sick at the house right now. And so, I'm sick at the house right now. And so, I'm sick at the house right now. And so, I'm just hitting it up just hitting it up just hitting it up >> for sure. Yeah. You know, I don't um and >> for sure. Yeah. You know, I don't um and >> for sure. Yeah. You know, I don't um and I find myself when I'm really good about I find myself when I'm really good about I find myself when I'm really good about all all of NAD, the glutathione, making all all of NAD, the glutathione, making all all of NAD, the glutathione, making sure I'm hitting my multivitamin, sure I'm hitting my multivitamin, sure I'm hitting my multivitamin, supplementing, all the things. supplementing, all the things. supplementing, all the things. >> So, Rorow uses uh a medical technology >> So, Rorow uses uh a medical technology >> So, Rorow uses uh a medical technology called liposomaal called liposomaal called liposomaal >> liposal >> liposal >> liposal >> technology. So these are basically >> technology. So these are basically >> technology. So these are basically little tiny uh molecules of fat that little tiny uh molecules of fat that little tiny uh molecules of fat that they'll put around uh the ingredient they'll put around uh the ingredient they'll put around uh the ingredient which protects it and you get more which protects it and you get more which protects it and you get more bioavailability so your body actually bioavailability so your body actually bioavailability so your body actually absorbs it. So you just use glutathione. absorbs it. So you just use glutathione. absorbs it. So you just use glutathione. If you took glutathione that wasn't If you took glutathione that wasn't If you took glutathione that wasn't liposomaal it's basically a waste of liposomaal it's basically a waste of liposomaal it's basically a waste of money money money >> like you'll get no rise in your glutath >> like you'll get no rise in your glutath >> like you'll get no rise in your glutath in fact back in the day in fact back in the day in fact back in the day >> absorb it as well. It just goes through >> absorb it as well. It just goes through >> absorb it as well. It just goes through your body. Back in the day the only way your body. Back in the day the only way your body. Back in the day the only way to get glutathione was uh if you want to to get glutathione was uh if you want to to get glutathione was uh if you want to see the blood uh see the blood uh see the blood uh >> IV, right? Wasn't >> IV, right? Wasn't >> IV, right? Wasn't >> Yeah. You'd have to do injection. That >> Yeah. You'd have to do injection. That >> Yeah. You'd have to do injection. That would be the only way we would see a would be the only way we would see a would be the only way we would see a rise in blood glutathione until rise in blood glutathione until rise in blood glutathione until liposomaal and if you take liposal liposomaal and if you take liposal liposomaal and if you take liposal glutathione you will predictably see a glutathione you will predictably see a glutathione you will predictably see a rise. rise. rise. >> Is that like is that relatively new >> Is that like is that relatively new >> Is that like is that relatively new technology? Have we technology? Have we technology? Have we >> No, it's not super new but it is a >> No, it's not super new but it is a >> No, it's not super new but it is a technology and it was first I want to technology and it was first I want to technology and it was first I want to say pharmaceutical companies were the say pharmaceutical companies were the say pharmaceutical companies were the first one. Maybe you can look that up first one. Maybe you can look that up first one. Maybe you can look that up Doug. Uh who invented Doug. Uh who invented Doug. Uh who invented >> I feel like I don't I don't remember >> I feel like I don't I don't remember >> I feel like I don't I don't remember hearing about that in our early years as hearing about that in our early years as hearing about that in our early years as a personal trainer. a personal trainer. a personal trainer. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> And then I feel like >> And then I feel like >> And then I feel like >> I don't think the science is super new. >> I don't think the science is super new. >> I don't think the science is super new. Uh but supplements using it I think Uh but supplements using it I think Uh but supplements using it I think that's kind of a newer relatively new that's kind of a newer relatively new that's kind of a newer relatively new >> probably medical grade you know >> probably medical grade you know >> probably medical grade you know supplements for a while that's remember supplements for a while that's remember supplements for a while that's remember >> it's interesting that that that >> it's interesting that that that >> it's interesting that that that >> 1961 >> 1961 >> 1961 >> Oh yeah the science has been around that >> Oh yeah the science has been around that >> Oh yeah the science has been around that long and yet supplement companies is it long and yet supplement companies is it long and yet supplement companies is it maybe maybe maybe >> oh the 1970s is when they started using >> oh the 1970s is when they started using >> oh the 1970s is when they started using uh liposomes as drug delivery systems uh liposomes as drug delivery systems uh liposomes as drug delivery systems but it was first discovered uh in 1961 but it was first discovered uh in 1961 but it was first discovered uh in 1961 >> and then why is it expensive like why >> and then why is it expensive like why >> and then why is it expensive like why haven't more supplements use that as a haven't more supplements use that as a haven't more supplements use that as a way to transport nutrients. way to transport nutrients. way to transport nutrients. >> It usually is more expensive. >> It usually is more expensive. >> It usually is more expensive. >> Yeah. And because it was a new >> Yeah. And because it was a new >> Yeah. And because it was a new technology, like where are you going to technology, like where are you going to technology, like where are you going to find uh the place to make to use this find uh the place to make to use this find uh the place to make to use this unless you're a pharma company type of unless you're a pharma company type of unless you're a pharma company type of deal deal deal >> and and specializes in this? And is >> and and specializes in this? And is >> and and specializes in this? And is there a reason why for example you know there a reason why for example you know there a reason why for example you know things like NAD glutathione um I would things like NAD glutathione um I would things like NAD glutathione um I would use that that way and but I not a use that that way and but I not a use that that way and but I not a creatine that way like creatine that way like creatine that way like >> so uh theoretically anything that's >> so uh theoretically anything that's >> so uh theoretically anything that's liposomaal will have increased uh liposomaal will have increased uh liposomaal will have increased uh bioavailability. bioavailability. bioavailability. >> However some things have great >> However some things have great >> However some things have great bioavailability without a liposomaal bioavailability without a liposomaal bioavailability without a liposomaal technology. technology. technology. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> Got it. >> So not necessary but some things like >> So not necessary but some things like >> So not necessary but some things like like glutathione like glutathione like glutathione >> you waste you waste your time if you >> you waste you waste your time if you >> you waste you waste your time if you take it uh uh any other way take it uh uh any other way take it uh uh any other way >> unless you inject it. I wonder if NAD is >> unless you inject it. I wonder if NAD is >> unless you inject it. I wonder if NAD is like that also. Is NAD like that? like that also. Is NAD like that? like that also. Is NAD like that? >> Makes a it makes a big difference with >> Makes a it makes a big difference with >> Makes a it makes a big difference with the absorption. You can absorb some the absorption. You can absorb some the absorption. You can absorb some orally, but it's got poor orally, but it's got poor orally, but it's got poor bioavailability in comparison to lipo bioavailability in comparison to lipo bioavailability in comparison to lipo liposomaal technology. liposomaal technology. liposomaal technology. >> Yeah. I felt like cuz I remember we try >> Yeah. I felt like cuz I remember we try >> Yeah. I felt like cuz I remember we try I had tried the oral forms before, never I had tried the oral forms before, never I had tried the oral forms before, never noticed anything. It wasn't until I did noticed anything. It wasn't until I did noticed anything. It wasn't until I did either the IV or the liposomaal that I either the IV or the liposomaal that I either the IV or the liposomaal that I noticed a difference. noticed a difference. noticed a difference. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> From something like that. >> From something like that. >> From something like that. >> Uh all right, let's talk about the >> Uh all right, let's talk about the >> Uh all right, let's talk about the earthquake last night. earthquake last night. earthquake last night. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Did everybody feel it? Did you even feel >> Did everybody feel it? Did you even feel >> Did everybody feel it? Did you even feel it? it? it? >> Oh, yeah. We were like in the epicenter, >> Oh, yeah. We were like in the epicenter, >> Oh, yeah. We were like in the epicenter, dude. So, it was like dude. So, it was like dude. So, it was like >> Oh, so it got you more. >> Oh, so it got you more. >> Oh, so it got you more. >> Yeah. I was like in Boulder Creek area. >> Yeah. I was like in Boulder Creek area. >> Yeah. I was like in Boulder Creek area. Um, which was just a couple miles away Um, which was just a couple miles away Um, which was just a couple miles away from us. So from us. So from us. So >> those are what 4.6 Doug. Was it Was that >> those are what 4.6 Doug. Was it Was that >> those are what 4.6 Doug. Was it Was that the other? the other? the other? >> I believe it 4.6. Yeah. >> I believe it 4.6. Yeah. >> I believe it 4.6. Yeah. >> And that Oh, and you were center so you >> And that Oh, and you were center so you >> And that Oh, and you were center so you got it the most. So then you felt the got it the most. So then you felt the got it the most. So then you felt the most, you probably felt it second and most, you probably felt it second and most, you probably felt it second and then third and I was probably the least. then third and I was probably the least. then third and I was probably the least. >> It was one of those shifting ones, too. >> It was one of those shifting ones, too. >> It was one of those shifting ones, too. So So So >> yeah, it shook my house good. And I'm >> yeah, it shook my house good. And I'm >> yeah, it shook my house good. And I'm the furthest. Wow. the furthest. Wow. the furthest. Wow. >> Like laterally. And uh I mean I was dead >> Like laterally. And uh I mean I was dead >> Like laterally. And uh I mean I was dead sleep like just completely out. And um sleep like just completely out. And um sleep like just completely out. And um it it jolted me up and the boys, you it it jolted me up and the boys, you it it jolted me up and the boys, you know, obviously it woke them up the know, obviously it woke them up the know, obviously it woke them up the whole house. So it was I mean I was just whole house. So it was I mean I was just whole house. So it was I mean I was just kind of joking about it and then I was kind of joking about it and then I was kind of joking about it and then I was like ah just wait for the aftershocks like ah just wait for the aftershocks like ah just wait for the aftershocks and then I scared the boys and and then I scared the boys and and then I scared the boys and >> Oh great I say that you know >> Oh great I say that you know >> Oh great I say that you know >> it was at 140 oh 141. There it was 1:41 >> it was at 140 oh 141. There it was 1:41 >> it was at 140 oh 141. There it was 1:41 a.m. It woke us up. My wife if she's any a.m. It woke us up. My wife if she's any a.m. It woke us up. My wife if she's any perceived threat for the kids she turns perceived threat for the kids she turns perceived threat for the kids she turns into a monster. Like I don't care. There into a monster. Like I don't care. There into a monster. Like I don't care. There could be a dinosaur in there and she'll could be a dinosaur in there and she'll could be a dinosaur in there and she'll tackle them and she's like ready to run tackle them and she's like ready to run tackle them and she's like ready to run downstairs like and I'm like no no no downstairs like and I'm like no no no downstairs like and I'm like no no no not why there's an earthquake not why there's an earthquake not why there's an earthquake earthquake. earthquake. earthquake. >> I don't want you to fall, you know, on >> I don't want you to fall, you know, on >> I don't want you to fall, you know, on the stairs or something like that. the stairs or something like that. the stairs or something like that. >> But she gets up like but >> But she gets up like but >> But she gets up like but >> maybe that's what it is. Is a mama bear >> maybe that's what it is. Is a mama bear >> maybe that's what it is. Is a mama bear thing or not? It's uh I was telling you thing or not? It's uh I was telling you thing or not? It's uh I was telling you guys on the walk that sometimes I take guys on the walk that sometimes I take guys on the walk that sometimes I take for granted. My I have a wife that is for granted. My I have a wife that is for granted. My I have a wife that is just so tough. She doesn't complain. She just so tough. She doesn't complain. She just so tough. She doesn't complain. She like she's there's so many traits about like she's there's so many traits about like she's there's so many traits about her that I I think I take for granted her that I I think I take for granted her that I I think I take for granted sometimes. But every once in a while I sometimes. But every once in a while I sometimes. But every once in a while I see that that uh that the side of her see that that uh that the side of her see that that uh that the side of her that I don't ever get to see like where that I don't ever get to see like where that I don't ever get to see like where she's very scared. Like she doesn't get she's very scared. Like she doesn't get she's very scared. Like she doesn't get scared. I don't see him with that. scared. I don't see him with that. scared. I don't see him with that. Earthquakes do that. We've been through Earthquakes do that. We've been through Earthquakes do that. We've been through enough with each other. And you know, enough with each other. And you know, enough with each other. And you know, she was Max is sick. So her and Max were she was Max is sick. So her and Max were she was Max is sick. So her and Max were sleeping in the other room and she comes sleeping in the other room and she comes sleeping in the other room and she comes storming in carrying him, you know, storming in carrying him, you know, storming in carrying him, you know, after. after. after. >> Yeah. Holding in her arm like, you know, >> Yeah. Holding in her arm like, you know, >> Yeah. Holding in her arm like, you know, where what should we do? And I'm like, where what should we do? And I'm like, where what should we do? And I'm like, huh? huh? huh? Yeah. I was like I go to sleep. I just Yeah. I was like I go to sleep. I just Yeah. I was like I go to sleep. I just roll over cuz I'm like half awake. I roll over cuz I'm like half awake. I roll over cuz I'm like half awake. I felt it. It woke me up. It was a good felt it. It woke me up. It was a good felt it. It woke me up. It was a good one. You know what I'm saying? It shook one. You know what I'm saying? It shook one. You know what I'm saying? It shook me. But it's like it's just I think I've me. But it's like it's just I think I've me. But it's like it's just I think I've been in so many earthquakes that I'm been in so many earthquakes that I'm been in so many earthquakes that I'm like it's not that big of a deal. It's like it's not that big of a deal. It's like it's not that big of a deal. It's like when things start falling off the like when things start falling off the like when things start falling off the wall, then you might catch me get up in wall, then you might catch me get up in wall, then you might catch me get up in a doorway, right? You know what I'm a doorway, right? You know what I'm a doorway, right? You know what I'm saying? Like that's you're supposed to saying? Like that's you're supposed to saying? Like that's you're supposed to stand in a doorway, you know? So I might stand in a doorway, you know? So I might stand in a doorway, you know? So I might go like do something like that, but if go like do something like that, but if go like do something like that, but if if like picture frames are flying off if like picture frames are flying off if like picture frames are flying off cuz we've been in we've been in over a cuz we've been in we've been in over a cuz we've been in we've been in over a seven, right? So one of the since we've seven, right? So one of the since we've seven, right? So one of the since we've all been in all been in all been in Yeah. Yeah. That was like a 7.1 7.1 and Yeah. Yeah. That was like a 7.1 7.1 and Yeah. Yeah. That was like a 7.1 7.1 and that one that one threw stuff off the that one that one threw stuff off the that one that one threw stuff off the wall wall wall >> and like and so something like that is >> and like and so something like that is >> and like and so something like that is enough to but I mean I've been in ones enough to but I mean I've been in ones enough to but I mean I've been in ones where I was at the gym at Santa Teresa where I was at the gym at Santa Teresa where I was at the gym at Santa Teresa and the windows were flexing. Whoa, and the windows were flexing. Whoa, and the windows were flexing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, it's whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, it's whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, it's like like like >> I mean there's not much you could really >> I mean there's not much you could really >> I mean there's not much you could really No, you right out. Dude, No, you right out. Dude, No, you right out. Dude, >> you know what's weird is that >> you know what's weird is that >> you know what's weird is that earthquakes have never they don't scare earthquakes have never they don't scare earthquakes have never they don't scare me. They never have. Not the 89. when I me. They never have. Not the 89. when I me. They never have. Not the 89. when I was 10 and I was on the couch watching was 10 and I was on the couch watching was 10 and I was on the couch watching the World Series the World Series the World Series >> and it threw me off the couch and I just >> and it threw me off the couch and I just >> and it threw me off the couch and I just got back on. Just never got back on. Just never got back on. Just never >> I fell off literally can do nothing. >> I fell off literally can do nothing. >> I fell off literally can do nothing. >> I know they're scary. They're supposed >> I know they're scary. They're supposed >> I know they're scary. They're supposed to be scary, but they they don't to be scary, but they they don't to be scary, but they they don't necessarily like I'm I'm way more necessarily like I'm I'm way more necessarily like I'm I'm way more terrified of like the ocean terrified of like the ocean terrified of like the ocean >> or wind, but earthquakes for some reason >> or wind, but earthquakes for some reason >> or wind, but earthquakes for some reason don't. don't. don't. >> But a lot of people are really scared by >> But a lot of people are really scared by >> But a lot of people are really scared by them. Doug was you were in a big one in them. Doug was you were in a big one in them. Doug was you were in a big one in Japan, right? Japan, right? Japan, right? >> Yeah, back in I believe it was 95. >> Yeah, back in I believe it was 95. >> Yeah, back in I believe it was 95. >> How big was that one? 7 >> How big was that one? 7 >> How big was that one? 7 two maybe I'm guessing two maybe I'm guessing two maybe I'm guessing >> over seven, huh? >> over seven, huh? >> over seven, huh? >> Yeah, it was over seven. It hit Coobe >> Yeah, it was over seven. It hit Coobe >> Yeah, it was over seven. It hit Coobe and I was living in Osak at the time and and I was living in Osak at the time and and I was living in Osak at the time and I felt my room going back and forth I felt my room going back and forth I felt my room going back and forth >> and my girlfriend at the time was living >> and my girlfriend at the time was living >> and my girlfriend at the time was living in Coobe and so I tried to call her. I in Coobe and so I tried to call her. I in Coobe and so I tried to call her. I couldn't get through. The phones were couldn't get through. The phones were couldn't get through. The phones were down and then I couldn't I finally got down and then I couldn't I finally got down and then I couldn't I finally got through to her and she was okay. Her through to her and she was okay. Her through to her and she was okay. Her family house was um damaged. family house was um damaged. family house was um damaged. >> Yeah. Not not destroyed, but in Coobe >> Yeah. Not not destroyed, but in Coobe >> Yeah. Not not destroyed, but in Coobe there was like 10,000 people who died there was like 10,000 people who died there was like 10,000 people who died because of fires. Yeah. Because of a lot because of fires. Yeah. Because of a lot because of fires. Yeah. Because of a lot of wood construction and then gas lines, of wood construction and then gas lines, of wood construction and then gas lines, things like that. Yeah. So about 10,000 things like that. Yeah. So about 10,000 things like that. Yeah. So about 10,000 people died. people died. people died. >> Um and I couldn't see her for like two >> Um and I couldn't see her for like two >> Um and I couldn't see her for like two months after that cuz trains were months after that cuz trains were months after that cuz trains were running. Yeah. running. Yeah. running. Yeah. >> Look up two months. >> Look up two months. >> Look up two months. >> Like two months. >> Like two months. >> Like two months. >> Look up the death the 89 89 caused >> Look up the death the 89 89 caused >> Look up the death the 89 89 caused caused deaths like with a bridge and caused deaths like with a bridge and caused deaths like with a bridge and everything like that. That was I mean everything like that. That was I mean everything like that. That was I mean that was crazy, right? I mean, if you that was crazy, right? I mean, if you that was crazy, right? I mean, if you were if you were somebody who was were if you were somebody who was were if you were somebody who was >> 89, look at the pictures of San >> 89, look at the pictures of San >> 89, look at the pictures of San Francisco in ' 89. Francisco in ' 89. Francisco in ' 89. >> Yeah, San Francisco had uh had some some >> Yeah, San Francisco had uh had some some >> Yeah, San Francisco had uh had some some building damages. You had building damages. You had building damages. You had >> bridges create a earthquake and so Yeah. >> bridges create a earthquake and so Yeah. >> bridges create a earthquake and so Yeah. So, yeah. So, you had some buildings So, yeah. So, you had some buildings So, yeah. So, you had some buildings fall down in San Francisco. The Bay fall down in San Francisco. The Bay fall down in San Francisco. The Bay Bridge collapsing was crazy. Bridge collapsing was crazy. Bridge collapsing was crazy. >> Bay Bridge was crazy. >> Bay Bridge was crazy. >> Bay Bridge was crazy. >> Oh, yeah. That was way crazy. >> Oh, yeah. That was way crazy. >> Oh, yeah. That was way crazy. >> I was at the Oakland Coliseum. >> I was at the Oakland Coliseum. >> I was at the Oakland Coliseum. >> Oh, you at the game? >> Oh, you at the game? >> Oh, you at the game? >> Yeah, the day before though. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, the day before though. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah, the day before though. Oh, yeah. >> And I was up in the nose beds, too. I >> And I was up in the nose beds, too. I >> And I was up in the nose beds, too. I was like, "Oh, man. That would have been was like, "Oh, man. That would have been was like, "Oh, man. That would have been crazy." crazy." crazy." >> Oh, look at Coobe. >> Oh, look at Coobe. >> Oh, look at Coobe. >> That's the Coobe earthquake. See, what >> That's the Coobe earthquake. See, what >> That's the Coobe earthquake. See, what terrifies me more than all those videos terrifies me more than all those videos terrifies me more than all those videos is although that is scary are like is although that is scary are like is although that is scary are like tsunamis. Like if I like tsunami videos. tsunamis. Like if I like tsunami videos. tsunamis. Like if I like tsunami videos. Oh, don't ever let Oh, don't ever let Oh, don't ever let >> I'm with you. I would be more terrified >> I'm with you. I would be more terrified >> I'm with you. I would be more terrified of that the earth cuz I mean first of of that the earth cuz I mean first of of that the earth cuz I mean first of all the the likelihood of that and then all the the likelihood of that and then all the the likelihood of that and then you have those structures that you see you have those structures that you see you have those structures that you see are like those are vulnerable are like those are vulnerable are like those are vulnerable structures. Like my house we'd have to structures. Like my house we'd have to structures. Like my house we'd have to go through probably like something crazy go through probably like something crazy go through probably like something crazy for my house to collapse, right? The for my house to collapse, right? The for my house to collapse, right? The earthquake would have to be something earthquake would have to be something earthquake would have to be something we've never seen before we've never seen before we've never seen before >> for so it's like so when I we get shook >> for so it's like so when I we get shook >> for so it's like so when I we get shook >> a lot of the buildings in California a >> a lot of the buildings in California a >> a lot of the buildings in California a lot of the lot of the lot of the >> Oh yeah they're except for like old >> Oh yeah they're except for like old >> Oh yeah they're except for like old cities. cities. cities. >> Yeah. Old San Francisco brick. So >> Yeah. Old San Francisco brick. So >> Yeah. Old San Francisco brick. So nothing's made of brick here anymore. nothing's made of brick here anymore. nothing's made of brick here anymore. >> Yeah. Yeah. So you're at your house >> Yeah. Yeah. So you're at your house >> Yeah. Yeah. So you're at your house today. I don't know. I don't know what today. I don't know. I don't know what today. I don't know. I don't know what the what the number is that we'd have to the what the number is that we'd have to the what the number is that we'd have to be to like the magnitude of it. But I be to like the magnitude of it. But I be to like the magnitude of it. But I mean so so when it happens I'm just kind mean so so when it happens I'm just kind mean so so when it happens I'm just kind of like of like of like roll right back to you. Go back to roll right back to you. Go back to roll right back to you. Go back to sleep. Dude, speak speaking of natural sleep. Dude, speak speaking of natural sleep. Dude, speak speaking of natural disasters and stuff, when do you guys disasters and stuff, when do you guys disasters and stuff, when do you guys remember the documentary with Al Gore, remember the documentary with Al Gore, remember the documentary with Al Gore, the Inconvenient Truth? the Inconvenient Truth? the Inconvenient Truth? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> When was that made? >> When was that made? >> When was that made? >> Was that 2000? >> Was that 2000? >> Was that 2000? >> I don't or one >> I don't or one >> I don't or one >> I want you. >> I want you. >> I want you. >> This brought the entire scare with like >> This brought the entire scare with like >> This brought the entire scare with like um polar bears like oh no like they're um polar bears like oh no like they're um polar bears like oh no like they're not going to have any. not going to have any. not going to have any. >> It was 2006. Now this docu is 20 years >> It was 2006. Now this docu is 20 years >> It was 2006. Now this docu is 20 years ago. Now, this documentary is what ago. Now, this documentary is what ago. Now, this documentary is what kicked off kicked off kicked off >> the climate change fear. >> the climate change fear. >> the climate change fear. >> This was the green. >> This was the green. >> This was the green. >> This was like this was huge. And this >> This was like this was huge. And this >> This was like this was huge. And this documentary documentary documentary >> got lots of publicity. Lots of people >> got lots of publicity. Lots of people >> got lots of publicity. Lots of people saw it. saw it. saw it. >> It was in like movie theaters >> It was in like movie theaters >> It was in like movie theaters >> and it scared the hell out of people. It >> and it scared the hell out of people. It >> and it scared the hell out of people. It it changed public policy. It created it changed public policy. It created it changed public policy. It created this this this uh political this this this uh political this this this uh political >> I still hear people like reciting it. >> I still hear people like reciting it. >> I still hear people like reciting it. >> That's right. This is the political term >> That's right. This is the political term >> That's right. This is the political term climate change. I call it political term climate change. I call it political term climate change. I call it political term because it's used in that way, right? because it's used in that way, right? because it's used in that way, right? Uh, and the fears and greenhouse gas Uh, and the fears and greenhouse gas Uh, and the fears and greenhouse gas >> because technically climate's been >> because technically climate's been >> because technically climate's been changing forever. changing forever. changing forever. >> Well, hold on. When's the last time you >> Well, hold on. When's the last time you >> Well, hold on. When's the last time you guys guys guys >> Stop being logical. Yeah. Stop it. Stop >> Stop being logical. Yeah. Stop it. Stop >> Stop being logical. Yeah. Stop it. Stop it. When's the last time you guys it. When's the last time you guys it. When's the last time you guys watched it? watched it? watched it? >> I don't think I ever seen >> I don't think I ever seen >> I don't think I ever seen >> I don't even know if I've seen it. >> I don't even know if I've seen it. >> I don't even know if I've seen it. >> Listen, >> Listen, >> Listen, >> like since forever ago. >> like since forever ago. >> like since forever ago. >> This movie did not stand the test of >> This movie did not stand the test of >> This movie did not stand the test of time. He made a lot of predictions. time. He made a lot of predictions. time. He made a lot of predictions. >> None of them came true. >> None of them came true. >> None of them came true. >> Zero, >> Zero, >> Zero, >> bro. He was showing pictures of like, >> bro. He was showing pictures of like, >> bro. He was showing pictures of like, oh, this is what's going to happen to oh, this is what's going to happen to oh, this is what's going to happen to Greenland and then this is what's going Greenland and then this is what's going Greenland and then this is what's going to happen and then here's what Florida's to happen and then here's what Florida's to happen and then here's what Florida's going to look like. Remember this was going to look like. Remember this was going to look like. Remember this was made in 2006. made in 2006. made in 2006. >> So he's like in 10 years. So he's got 10 >> So he's like in 10 years. So he's got 10 >> So he's like in 10 years. So he's got 10 years to like make a predict. Like in 10 years to like make a predict. Like in 10 years to like make a predict. Like in 10 years this is what's going to happen. years this is what's going to happen. years this is what's going to happen. None of it. None of it. None of it. >> None of it. So right now people are >> None of it. So right now people are >> None of it. So right now people are posting clips right now posting clips right now posting clips right now >> showing these predictions that that they >> showing these predictions that that they >> showing these predictions that that they made, you know, based off their whatever made, you know, based off their whatever made, you know, based off their whatever their science. It's all it was all so their science. It's all it was all so their science. It's all it was all so convenient that there's different convenient that there's different convenient that there's different climate spots all over the world. climate spots all over the world. climate spots all over the world. >> So you have one climate in this, you >> So you have one climate in this, you >> So you have one climate in this, you know, part of the hemisphere. You have know, part of the hemisphere. You have know, part of the hemisphere. You have one in the southern part of the one in the southern part of the one in the southern part of the hemisphere. Like they're all different hemisphere. Like they're all different hemisphere. Like they're all different climates. They're all changing at climates. They're all changing at climates. They're all changing at different paces. different paces. different paces. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But that's too inconvenient. >> But that's too inconvenient. >> But that's too inconvenient. >> I should >> I should >> I should >> We need a global scary >> We need a global scary >> We need a global scary >> I should show you. I should show you the >> I should show you. I should show you the >> I should show you. I should show you the clips cuz the way he says it, the way he clips cuz the way he says it, the way he clips cuz the way he says it, the way he talks, you know, obviously he's a talks, you know, obviously he's a talks, you know, obviously he's a politician, so he he can communicate politician, so he he can communicate politician, so he he can communicate very effectively. And he's like, "Oh, very effectively. And he's like, "Oh, very effectively. And he's like, "Oh, this is going to happen." Like, if we this is going to happen." Like, if we this is going to happen." Like, if we don't dramatically reverse course, this don't dramatically reverse course, this don't dramatically reverse course, this is what Florida's going to look like. is what Florida's going to look like. is what Florida's going to look like. And I have a picture of Florida and like And I have a picture of Florida and like And I have a picture of Florida and like half of it's covered in water. This is half of it's covered in water. This is half of it's covered in water. This is what the Bay Area is going to look like. what the Bay Area is going to look like. what the Bay Area is going to look like. And like San Francisco is covered in And like San Francisco is covered in And like San Francisco is covered in water. And yet all the billionaires water. And yet all the billionaires water. And yet all the billionaires still have all like beachfront like still have all like beachfront like still have all like beachfront like right there like and they keep buying. right there like and they keep buying. right there like and they keep buying. >> Yeah. Meanwhile, the politicians were >> Yeah. Meanwhile, the politicians were >> Yeah. Meanwhile, the politicians were still buying beachfront property. Like still buying beachfront property. Like still buying beachfront property. Like you guys don't believe this yourself. you guys don't believe this yourself. you guys don't believe this yourself. >> They don't believe it. Yeah. Why should >> They don't believe it. Yeah. Why should >> They don't believe it. Yeah. Why should we believe? we believe? we believe? >> Where did you see all that stuff pop up? >> Where did you see all that stuff pop up? >> Where did you see all that stuff pop up? You just see You just see You just see >> there people were posting out on X and >> there people were posting out on X and >> there people were posting out on X and and they're like Yeah. They're like, and they're like Yeah. They're like, and they're like Yeah. They're like, "Boy, this looks pretty bad, dude. When "Boy, this looks pretty bad, dude. When "Boy, this looks pretty bad, dude. When you make predictions like that, you make predictions like that, you make predictions like that, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> dude, I had something crazy." So, uh >> dude, I had something crazy." So, uh >> dude, I had something crazy." So, uh this uh this weekend I'm I'm sitting this uh this weekend I'm I'm sitting this uh this weekend I'm I'm sitting outside in the morning. I'm having a cup outside in the morning. I'm having a cup outside in the morning. I'm having a cup of coffee. My mother-in-law sends me uh of coffee. My mother-in-law sends me uh of coffee. My mother-in-law sends me uh a song to listen to. She knows that like a song to listen to. She knows that like a song to listen to. She knows that like I I like jazz music and that's like my I I like jazz music and that's like my I I like jazz music and that's like my easy listening stuff, right? So, she easy listening stuff, right? So, she easy listening stuff, right? So, she sends me this uh new artist that I had sends me this uh new artist that I had sends me this uh new artist that I had heard of and I I listen to it. I'm like, heard of and I I listen to it. I'm like, heard of and I I listen to it. I'm like, "Oh my god, this is really good." And I "Oh my god, this is really good." And I "Oh my god, this is really good." And I send back to her. I'm like, "This is I send back to her. I'm like, "This is I send back to her. I'm like, "This is I said, "This is really good." I'm going said, "This is really good." I'm going said, "This is really good." I'm going down like all I'm listening to like his down like all I'm listening to like his down like all I'm listening to like his his playlist right now and she's like, his playlist right now and she's like, his playlist right now and she's like, "I know, doesn't it? He just like speaks "I know, doesn't it? He just like speaks "I know, doesn't it? He just like speaks to you, right?" I'm like, "Yeah, I know. to you, right?" I'm like, "Yeah, I know. to you, right?" I'm like, "Yeah, I know. It's real good." So, I'm listening and It's real good." So, I'm listening and It's real good." So, I'm listening and I'm like going through like all his I'm like going through like all his I'm like going through like all his songs like and I'm like, "Dude, how have songs like and I'm like, "Dude, how have songs like and I'm like, "Dude, how have I I I've never heard this guy." So, I I I I've never heard this guy." So, I I I I've never heard this guy." So, I pull I go to his his Spotify pull I go to his his Spotify pull I go to his his Spotify >> and uh you know the the picture of him >> and uh you know the the picture of him >> and uh you know the the picture of him he's like this older black guy and he's he's like this older black guy and he's he's like this older black guy and he's got like an old retro kind of mic he's got like an old retro kind of mic he's got like an old retro kind of mic he's singing into and like all his songs are singing into and like all his songs are singing into and like all his songs are in 2026 and I'm like in 2026 and I'm like in 2026 and I'm like >> so of course I started Google searching. >> so of course I started Google searching. >> so of course I started Google searching. >> So I sent I find out this dude is >> So I sent I find out this dude is >> So I sent I find out this dude is completely AI generated. I sent back to completely AI generated. I sent back to completely AI generated. I sent back to her and she's like no way this morning her and she's like no way this morning her and she's like no way this morning >> she's it's all over the news right now. >> she's it's all over the news right now. >> she's it's all over the news right now. So he he broke the charts. Aren't they So he he broke the charts. Aren't they So he he broke the charts. Aren't they supposed to supposed to supposed to >> He's got two He's got two number one >> He's got two He's got two number one >> He's got two He's got two number one like he's had two number one songs in like he's had two number one songs in like he's had two number one songs in the last terrible. the last terrible. the last terrible. >> Yeah. So, I'll send you I'll send you >> Yeah. So, I'll send you I'll send you >> Yeah. So, I'll send you I'll send you Doug. Check out the Doug. Check out the Doug. Check out the >> And it sounds like new music. It's not, >> And it sounds like new music. It's not, >> And it sounds like new music. It's not, >> bro. It's It is It's all It's new >> bro. It's It is It's all It's new >> bro. It's It is It's all It's new lyrics. It's a new It's a different lyrics. It's a new It's a different lyrics. It's a new It's a different voice. It's complet And so brilliant voice. It's complet And so brilliant voice. It's complet And so brilliant because right uh Are you It's already because right uh Are you It's already because right uh Are you It's already pulling up. Did you pull it up already? pulling up. Did you pull it up already? pulling up. Did you pull it up already? >> I'll give it to you. She's I got it >> I'll give it to you. She's I got it >> I'll give it to you. She's I got it right here. It's Look, it's all over the right here. It's Look, it's all over the right here. It's Look, it's all over the news. news. news. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Forget this. He's not real. It's just >> Forget this. He's not real. It's just >> Forget this. He's not real. It's just the latest. >> Wow. What in the heck, dudes? Wow. By >> Wow. What in the heck, dudes? Wow. By the way, you know what's funny about the way, you know what's funny about the way, you know what's funny about this? this? this? >> Eddie Eddie Dalton. >> Eddie Eddie Dalton. >> Eddie Eddie Dalton. >> You know what's crazy about this? >> You know what's crazy about this? >> You know what's crazy about this? >> He's got three of the top. >> He's got three of the top. >> He's got three of the top. >> You know what's crazy about this? >> You know what's crazy about this? >> You know what's crazy about this? >> So, there's like a an organization now >> So, there's like a an organization now >> So, there's like a an organization now of um cooked of um cooked of um cooked >> artist. Well, so artists are getting >> artist. Well, so artists are getting >> artist. Well, so artists are getting together, uh, Hollywood actors and together, uh, Hollywood actors and together, uh, Hollywood actors and musicians, and they're trying to like musicians, and they're trying to like musicians, and they're trying to like fight this. fight this. fight this. >> But you know what the problem is? Is >> But you know what the problem is? Is >> But you know what the problem is? Is that nobody sympathizes with them? that nobody sympathizes with them? that nobody sympathizes with them? >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Nobody care. Nobody sympathize. You're a >> Nobody care. Nobody sympathize. You're a >> Nobody care. Nobody sympathize. You're a Hollywood actor. You always give me your Hollywood actor. You always give me your Hollywood actor. You always give me your opinion about everything. You're so opinion about everything. You're so opinion about everything. You're so whatever. And now you're like, "Please whatever. And now you're like, "Please whatever. And now you're like, "Please help me keep my job." And everybody's help me keep my job." And everybody's help me keep my job." And everybody's like, "Nah." like, "Nah." like, "Nah." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't really care about you losing >> I don't really care about you losing >> I don't really care about you losing your job. your job. your job. >> Well, I mean, the only positive that >> Well, I mean, the only positive that >> Well, I mean, the only positive that I've seen so far with this, there's one I've seen so far with this, there's one I've seen so far with this, there's one band that just kind of emerged out of band that just kind of emerged out of band that just kind of emerged out of nowhere. And I've been meaning to tell nowhere. And I've been meaning to tell nowhere. And I've been meaning to tell you guys about this and I know you guys you guys about this and I know you guys you guys about this and I know you guys won't be into it because it's like so won't be into it because it's like so won't be into it because it's like so out there. Uh but I think it's a they're out there. Uh but I think it's a they're out there. Uh but I think it's a they're from Quebec. It's like French Canadian, from Quebec. It's like French Canadian, from Quebec. It's like French Canadian, but their name's like Andre Andrean but their name's like Andre Andrean but their name's like Andre Andrean deport. I I don't even know how to deport. I I don't even know how to deport. I I don't even know how to pronounce it, but it's like these two pronounce it, but it's like these two pronounce it, but it's like these two guys and they wear the most ridiculous guys and they wear the most ridiculous guys and they wear the most ridiculous outfits. So, one of them has this huge outfits. So, one of them has this huge outfits. So, one of them has this huge like hat and they're they're polkadotted like hat and they're they're polkadotted like hat and they're they're polkadotted and they have this huge nose and they and they have this huge nose and they and they have this huge nose and they play he plays like micro tone. So, it's play he plays like micro tone. So, it's play he plays like micro tone. So, it's like half notes. So, the the fretboard like half notes. So, the the fretboard like half notes. So, the the fretboard for like the guitar itself is like he's for like the guitar itself is like he's for like the guitar itself is like he's playing kind of like notes in between playing kind of like notes in between playing kind of like notes in between notes. And so, as a musician, you're notes. And so, as a musician, you're notes. And so, as a musician, you're sitting there and you're like you just sitting there and you're like you just sitting there and you're like you just get sucked in, hypnotized because it's get sucked in, hypnotized because it's get sucked in, hypnotized because it's like nothing I've ever heard before. like nothing I've ever heard before. like nothing I've ever heard before. It's like so weird. It's like a weird It's like so weird. It's like a weird It's like so weird. It's like a weird music, but it's like sometimes they hit music, but it's like sometimes they hit music, but it's like sometimes they hit these grooves and it just pulls you in. these grooves and it just pulls you in. these grooves and it just pulls you in. But I'm not the only one, dude. There's But I'm not the only one, dude. There's But I'm not the only one, dude. There's like look at how many millions of views like look at how many millions of views like look at how many millions of views they get and it's like it became like a they get and it's like it became like a they get and it's like it became like a viral sensation overnight. And it's like viral sensation overnight. And it's like viral sensation overnight. And it's like kind of jazz. It's kind of like um uh kind of jazz. It's kind of like um uh kind of jazz. It's kind of like um uh what do they call that type of a rock? what do they call that type of a rock? what do they call that type of a rock? But it's it's like really unique kind of But it's it's like really unique kind of But it's it's like really unique kind of rock music, but um it's it's like the rock music, but um it's it's like the rock music, but um it's it's like the counter to AI. So, they're going so off counter to AI. So, they're going so off counter to AI. So, they're going so off script that they're kind of inventing a script that they're kind of inventing a script that they're kind of inventing a new thing, which I think is pretty rad. new thing, which I think is pretty rad. new thing, which I think is pretty rad. >> I like artists, too, right now that I >> I like artists, too, right now that I >> I like artists, too, right now that I see that are emerging that are doing see that are emerging that are doing see that are emerging that are doing kind of in in in that same kind of vein, kind of in in in that same kind of vein, kind of in in in that same kind of vein, like creative stuff that's never been like creative stuff that's never been like creative stuff that's never been done before. And you see like there's a done before. And you see like there's a done before. And you see like there's a couple of these like, you know, duos couple of these like, you know, duos couple of these like, you know, duos that I watch that will they'll they'll that I watch that will they'll they'll that I watch that will they'll they'll string a they'll be playing like six string a they'll be playing like six string a they'll be playing like six different instruments and they'll different instruments and they'll different instruments and they'll overlay all of them and they'll make overlay all of them and they'll make overlay all of them and they'll make really cool music. Like I think that's really cool music. Like I think that's really cool music. Like I think that's >> Yeah, she like he does like the foot >> Yeah, she like he does like the foot >> Yeah, she like he does like the foot pedals and so does like delayed loops pedals and so does like delayed loops pedals and so does like delayed loops and all that. But yeah, and it but also and all that. But yeah, and it but also and all that. But yeah, and it but also plays like a bass. So it's a bass neck plays like a bass. So it's a bass neck plays like a bass. So it's a bass neck and a guitar neck. So it does the bass and a guitar neck. So it does the bass and a guitar neck. So it does the bass parts then does the guitar parts and parts then does the guitar parts and parts then does the guitar parts and then the drums is like then the drums is like then the drums is like >> so I have so I have a prediction for >> so I have so I have a prediction for >> so I have so I have a prediction for what's what genre of music will be what's what genre of music will be what's what genre of music will be protected the most uh by AI. Well, it's protected the most uh by AI. Well, it's protected the most uh by AI. Well, it's uh uh uh >> worship music >> worship music >> worship music >> because the audience very you could very >> because the audience very you could very >> because the audience very you could very much say you want the Holy Spirit in it. much say you want the Holy Spirit in it. much say you want the Holy Spirit in it. You want people singing it and I think You want people singing it and I think You want people singing it and I think that'll protect worship music more than that'll protect worship music more than that'll protect worship music more than other music. other music. other music. >> I think I think it's already there. >> I think I think it's already there. >> I think I think it's already there. >> Yeah, it's already happened. It's >> Yeah, it's already happened. It's >> Yeah, it's already happened. It's already happening. I'll send you already happening. I'll send you already happening. I'll send you something by something by something by >> I think they'll be the most protected >> I think they'll be the most protected >> I think they'll be the most protected because what protects any other music? because what protects any other music? because what protects any other music? Do people really care? Do people really care? Do people really care? >> What? That's so that's so left field to >> What? That's so that's so left field to >> What? That's so that's so left field to say that. What are you talking What I say that. What are you talking What I say that. What are you talking What I mean is I don't you're talking to mean is I don't you're talking to mean is I don't you're talking to someone who likes music like there's someone who likes music like there's someone who likes music like there's like there's no like part of what why my like there's no like part of what why my like there's no like part of what why my mother said that to me why my mother mother said that to me why my mother mother said that to me why my mother said that to me is like man his music said that to me is like man his music said that to me is like man his music just speaks to you like that's like just speaks to you like that's like just speaks to you like that's like there's something about music that that there's something about music that that there's something about music that that >> No what I mean is uh by protected is I >> No what I mean is uh by protected is I >> No what I mean is uh by protected is I think the consumer uh you give it 15 think the consumer uh you give it 15 think the consumer uh you give it 15 years isn't going to care if it's AI. years isn't going to care if it's AI. years isn't going to care if it's AI. They're just going to like the music. They're just going to like the music. They're just going to like the music. That's what they're going to say. That's what they're going to say. That's what they're going to say. >> They're going to have to fully disclose. >> They're going to have to fully disclose. >> They're going to have to fully disclose. I'm surprised that that's not super I'm surprised that that's not super I'm surprised that that's not super visible. So that's so for him that that visible. So that's so for him that that visible. So that's so for him that that should be a lawsuit. Well, what's this should be a lawsuit. Well, what's this should be a lawsuit. Well, what's this is so every bit of AI that I've listened is so every bit of AI that I've listened is so every bit of AI that I've listened to before because I' I listen to some AI to before because I' I listen to some AI to before because I' I listen to some AI stations and it's disclosed as AI and stations and it's disclosed as AI and stations and it's disclosed as AI and I've also seen a lot of AI stuff get I've also seen a lot of AI stuff get I've also seen a lot of AI stuff get taken down. So if it's like uh where taken down. So if it's like uh where taken down. So if it's like uh where they like they like they like >> YouTube doesn't mess with it. I know >> YouTube doesn't mess with it. I know >> YouTube doesn't mess with it. I know >> like they they'll they'll take down like >> like they they'll they'll take down like >> like they they'll they'll take down like somebody who takes uh I've seen there's somebody who takes uh I've seen there's somebody who takes uh I've seen there's a lot of viral stuff of like Tupac done a lot of viral stuff of like Tupac done a lot of viral stuff of like Tupac done in jazz or something like that and that in jazz or something like that and that in jazz or something like that and that stuff gets taken down. They don't laugh stuff gets taken down. They don't laugh stuff gets taken down. They don't laugh cuz you're really you're ripping his cuz you're really you're ripping his cuz you're really you're ripping his song and you're you're making it. song and you're you're making it. song and you're you're making it. >> But what they did with this artist is >> But what they did with this artist is >> But what they did with this artist is they completely completely new brand they completely completely new brand they completely completely new brand new. It's a brand new person. It's a new. It's a brand new person. It's a new. It's a brand new person. It's a It's a It's brand new music. It's brand It's a It's brand new music. It's brand It's a It's brand new music. It's brand new lyrics. It's new lyrics. It's new lyrics. It's >> It's kind of gray. It's like >> It's kind of gray. It's like >> It's kind of gray. It's like >> Yeah. There's You're not >> Yeah. There's You're not >> Yeah. There's You're not >> That's what I mean. I feel like in in 15 >> That's what I mean. I feel like in in 15 >> That's what I mean. I feel like in in 15 years like what genre are people going years like what genre are people going years like what genre are people going to demand real people make? to demand real people make? to demand real people make? >> Well, that your what your argument is >> Well, that your what your argument is >> Well, that your what your argument is weird though. Like why why would uh why weird though. Like why why would uh why weird though. Like why why would uh why would people that are would people that are would people that are >> Because I don't know if people will >> Because I don't know if people will >> Because I don't know if people will drive it necessarily. Like artists will drive it necessarily. Like artists will drive it necessarily. Like artists will kind of find a way to to reach the kind of find a way to to reach the kind of find a way to to reach the audience. Like I think there'll be like audience. Like I think there'll be like audience. Like I think there'll be like a split. Like if you're just a general a split. Like if you're just a general a split. Like if you're just a general casual music person, you're not even casual music person, you're not even casual music person, you're not even know the difference. No one's going to know the difference. No one's going to know the difference. No one's going to care. But like people that are into care. But like people that are into care. But like people that are into music and they want live performance and music and they want live performance and music and they want live performance and they want the the distinction of like they want the the distinction of like they want the the distinction of like cuz it does like you cuz it does like you cuz it does like you >> you can feel emotion through like >> you can feel emotion through like >> you can feel emotion through like somebody playing it. Uh, and I I mean somebody playing it. Uh, and I I mean somebody playing it. Uh, and I I mean I'm sure we'll we'll be treked, you I'm sure we'll we'll be treked, you I'm sure we'll we'll be treked, you know, like, hey, I will be able to find know, like, hey, I will be able to find know, like, hey, I will be able to find a way to kind of put the right type of a way to kind of put the right type of a way to kind of put the right type of >> uh emphasis in there to add and emote it >> uh emphasis in there to add and emote it >> uh emphasis in there to add and emote it a little bit further. But it's like, you a little bit further. But it's like, you a little bit further. But it's like, you know, to to visually see it and then know, to to visually see it and then know, to to visually see it and then hear it, I think, is going to be a hear it, I think, is going to be a hear it, I think, is going to be a different experience. different experience. different experience. >> Well, you'll see more of like the band >> Well, you'll see more of like the band >> Well, you'll see more of like the band you talked about, what I talked about you talked about, what I talked about you talked about, what I talked about the do another guy that I love. Have you the do another guy that I love. Have you the do another guy that I love. Have you guys seen this the Spanish kid? He's got guys seen this the Spanish kid? He's got guys seen this the Spanish kid? He's got long hair and he plays the guitar and he long hair and he plays the guitar and he long hair and he plays the guitar and he and he does all kinds of and he does all kinds of and he does all kinds of >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. is acoustic, bro. Insane. is acoustic, bro. Insane. is acoustic, bro. Insane. >> I think the live performances going to >> I think the live performances going to >> I think the live performances going to have to be a lot of live. have to be a lot of live. have to be a lot of live. >> Yeah, there's but what I don't like >> Yeah, there's but what I don't like >> Yeah, there's but what I don't like they're they're both here to stay. they're they're both here to stay. they're they're both here to stay. >> There's uh I mean I have to admit like I >> There's uh I mean I have to admit like I >> There's uh I mean I have to admit like I mean I knew it was AI. I didn't stop mean I knew it was AI. I didn't stop mean I knew it was AI. I didn't stop listening to it. It still evokes the listening to it. It still evokes the listening to it. It still evokes the words, the lyrics, the sound, the tones. words, the lyrics, the sound, the tones. words, the lyrics, the sound, the tones. It's all still really good. Now I It's all still really good. Now I It's all still really good. Now I wouldn't I mean I wouldn't go uh pay to wouldn't I mean I wouldn't go uh pay to wouldn't I mean I wouldn't go uh pay to go listen to an AI guest concert or go listen to an AI guest concert or go listen to an AI guest concert or anything like that. And so I'd want to anything like that. And so I'd want to anything like that. And so I'd want to see a real artist. I would never like so see a real artist. I would never like so see a real artist. I would never like so I'd pay. Yeah. This kid right here is so I'd pay. Yeah. This kid right here is so I'd pay. Yeah. This kid right here is so Have you seen him Doug before? Have you seen him Doug before? Have you seen him Doug before? >> I have. You've sent it to us. >> I have. You've sent it to us. >> I have. You've sent it to us. >> I mean if you guys don't I mean I >> I mean if you guys don't I mean I >> I mean if you guys don't I mean I >> playing in garages and stuff like car >> playing in garages and stuff like car >> playing in garages and stuff like car garages sounds so rad. garages sounds so rad. garages sounds so rad. >> You know what's interesting is that uh >> You know what's interesting is that uh >> You know what's interesting is that uh the prediction was that art and music the prediction was that art and music the prediction was that art and music would be the last things that AI would be the last things that AI would be the last things that AI >> uh >> uh >> uh >> and it's the furthest thing from that. >> and it's the furthest thing from that. >> and it's the furthest thing from that. Some of the art that you see is so cool Some of the art that you see is so cool Some of the art that you see is so cool >> where they've melded things and so >> where they've melded things and so >> where they've melded things and so >> they're getting way better. So I have >> they're getting way better. So I have >> they're getting way better. So I have another theory too with education another theory too with education another theory too with education because uh if indeed uh it goes in this because uh if indeed uh it goes in this because uh if indeed uh it goes in this direction where um we have AI and it's direction where um we have AI and it's direction where um we have AI and it's able to do so much work for us as long able to do so much work for us as long able to do so much work for us as long as you direct it or whatever let's say as you direct it or whatever let's say as you direct it or whatever let's say but let's say it does all this I feel but let's say it does all this I feel but let's say it does all this I feel like education is going to move towards like education is going to move towards like education is going to move towards uh the the arts or the areas that we uh the the arts or the areas that we uh the the arts or the areas that we thought weren't valuable like philosophy thought weren't valuable like philosophy thought weren't valuable like philosophy morality uh theology because uh if morality uh theology because uh if morality uh theology because uh if science technology math engineering ing science technology math engineering ing science technology math engineering ing if that's largely AI just kind of being if that's largely AI just kind of being if that's largely AI just kind of being directed. directed. directed. >> I mean, that's a really uh optimistic I >> I mean, that's a really uh optimistic I >> I mean, that's a really uh optimistic I thought. I think that's cool. It would thought. I think that's cool. It would thought. I think that's cool. It would be very cool if we start moving into be very cool if we start moving into be very cool if we start moving into philosophical conversations. philosophical conversations. philosophical conversations. >> Where else would you get educated, >> Where else would you get educated, >> Where else would you get educated, right? right? right? >> Oh, it's a good point. I mean, what when >> Oh, it's a good point. I mean, what when >> Oh, it's a good point. I mean, what when you think if you think about it as a lot you think if you think about it as a lot you think if you think about it as a lot of the AI stuff and where we're going of the AI stuff and where we're going of the AI stuff and where we're going technology-wise are just supercomputers technology-wise are just supercomputers technology-wise are just supercomputers for a lot of things that we for a lot of things that we for a lot of things that we >> masters of data >> masters of data >> masters of data >> like and so like what so why we have >> like and so like what so why we have >> like and so like what so why we have that all outsourced. So why we should that all outsourced. So why we should that all outsourced. So why we should spend our time thinking about other spend our time thinking about other spend our time thinking about other things that are deeper like things that are deeper like things that are deeper like philosophical, psychological things that philosophical, psychological things that philosophical, psychological things that would actually be I mean that's a very would actually be I mean that's a very would actually be I mean that's a very optimistic actually view of where this optimistic actually view of where this optimistic actually view of where this could go. could go. could go. >> It's just a theory. I mean who knows, >> It's just a theory. I mean who knows, >> It's just a theory. I mean who knows, right? right? right? >> I mean it's not a bad theory. >> I mean it's not a bad theory. >> I mean it's not a bad theory. >> But I was thinking to myself like okay >> But I was thinking to myself like okay >> But I was thinking to myself like okay like let's say uh my youngest, you know, like let's say uh my youngest, you know, like let's say uh my youngest, you know, she's uh three. Uh so she'll be getting she's uh three. Uh so she'll be getting she's uh three. Uh so she'll be getting into higher education in what is that 16 into higher education in what is that 16 into higher education in what is that 16 years maybe. Okay. If this goes in the years maybe. Okay. If this goes in the years maybe. Okay. If this goes in the direction where you have AI doing the direction where you have AI doing the direction where you have AI doing the all the engineering, all the science and all the engineering, all the science and all the engineering, all the science and technology using the math, building technology using the math, building technology using the math, building things, all the stuff that we for a long things, all the stuff that we for a long things, all the stuff that we for a long time have thought that was this is what time have thought that was this is what time have thought that was this is what you need to learn. What would humans uh you need to learn. What would humans uh you need to learn. What would humans uh want to or or what would they value want to or or what would they value want to or or what would they value education in? It'd be like philosophy, education in? It'd be like philosophy, education in? It'd be like philosophy, theology, uh morality. that kind of I theology, uh morality. that kind of I theology, uh morality. that kind of I mean it's your point's being proven mean it's your point's being proven mean it's your point's being proven right now with the rise of right now with the rise of right now with the rise of >> people interested in Christian music and >> people interested in Christian music and >> people interested in Christian music and church and that's all that's all on the church and that's all that's all on the church and that's all that's all on the I bet stoicism I bet stoicism is on the I bet stoicism I bet stoicism is on the I bet stoicism I bet stoicism is on the rise also I wonder if it is rise also I wonder if it is rise also I wonder if it is >> I bet it is I bet all all these things >> I bet it is I bet all all these things >> I bet it is I bet all all these things that I think that it's forcing people that I think that it's forcing people that I think that it's forcing people into that direction into that direction into that direction >> truth >> truth >> truth >> which is I mean that's all good stuff I >> which is I mean that's all good stuff I >> which is I mean that's all good stuff I mean that's a that's a very positive mean that's a that's a very positive mean that's a that's a very positive thing again this is this goes back to my thing again this is this goes back to my thing again this is this goes back to my theory of like the pendulum swinging theory of like the pendulum swinging theory of like the pendulum swinging thing it's like it's going to get a thing it's like it's going to get a thing it's like it's going to get a little ugly and nasty for a little bit little ugly and nasty for a little bit little ugly and nasty for a little bit for us all to learn and then I think it for us all to learn and then I think it for us all to learn and then I think it wakes everybody up and then you start to wakes everybody up and then you start to wakes everybody up and then you start to move in that direction and so I think move in that direction and so I think move in that direction and so I think it's a very optimistic it's a very optimistic it's a very optimistic >> uh way to look at it for sure. >> uh way to look at it for sure. >> uh way to look at it for sure. >> I think it's speaking of science so I so >> I think it's speaking of science so I so >> I think it's speaking of science so I so trip off this so you guys know Ziotics trip off this so you guys know Ziotics trip off this so you guys know Ziotics and their uh their um product that they and their uh their um product that they and their uh their um product that they have that converts sugars into uh fiber. have that converts sugars into uh fiber. have that converts sugars into uh fiber. We talked about this, right? So We talked about this, right? So We talked about this, right? So >> yeah, it's crazy. >> yeah, it's crazy. >> yeah, it's crazy. >> So okay, this sounds crazy, right? But >> So okay, this sounds crazy, right? But >> So okay, this sounds crazy, right? But here's what it is. Uh this is a it's a here's what it is. Uh this is a it's a here's what it is. Uh this is a it's a probiotic. So Ziotics makes it this is a probiotic. So Ziotics makes it this is a probiotic. So Ziotics makes it this is a company that specializes in taking company that specializes in taking company that specializes in taking bacteria, beneficial bacteria, modifying bacteria, beneficial bacteria, modifying bacteria, beneficial bacteria, modifying this bacteria to do something this bacteria to do something this bacteria to do something interesting. So like their their interesting. So like their their interesting. So like their their flagship product is a probiotic drink flagship product is a probiotic drink flagship product is a probiotic drink that you drink before you go have that you drink before you go have that you drink before you go have alcohol. And what it does is these alcohol. And what it does is these alcohol. And what it does is these bacteria uh when you drink them, they go bacteria uh when you drink them, they go bacteria uh when you drink them, they go in your gut and they break down in your gut and they break down in your gut and they break down acetalahhide, which is what what some of acetalahhide, which is what what some of acetalahhide, which is what what some of the breakdown from alcohol turns into the breakdown from alcohol turns into the breakdown from alcohol turns into acetalahide. Now your liver detoxifies acetalahide. Now your liver detoxifies acetalahide. Now your liver detoxifies it but some of it's released in your gut it but some of it's released in your gut it but some of it's released in your gut and when that happens it goes in your and when that happens it goes in your and when that happens it goes in your bloodstream makes you feel like garbage. bloodstream makes you feel like garbage. bloodstream makes you feel like garbage. Okay. So this little bacteria breaks Okay. So this little bacteria breaks Okay. So this little bacteria breaks down to acetalahhide in your gut. So down to acetalahhide in your gut. So down to acetalahhide in your gut. So that's their flagship. Then they came that's their flagship. Then they came that's their flagship. Then they came out with this sugar to fiber probiotic out with this sugar to fiber probiotic out with this sugar to fiber probiotic drink. And so what this is is you you drink. And so what this is is you you drink. And so what this is is you you take it once a day. It's a little packet take it once a day. It's a little packet take it once a day. It's a little packet of powder. You take it once a day and it of powder. You take it once a day and it of powder. You take it once a day and it sits in your gut and it's breaks down it sits in your gut and it's breaks down it sits in your gut and it's breaks down it takes sugar individual sugar molecules takes sugar individual sugar molecules takes sugar individual sugar molecules and it it connects them into long chains and it it connects them into long chains and it it connects them into long chains of fiber soluble fiber. of fiber soluble fiber. of fiber soluble fiber. >> So wow. >> So wow. >> So wow. >> Okay. So I was like I was on their >> Okay. So I was like I was on their >> Okay. So I was like I was on their website and I'm like how much like how website and I'm like how much like how website and I'm like how much like how much fiber much fiber much fiber >> where's the limit on there? >> where's the limit on there? >> where's the limit on there? >> Yeah. Like what is this like how much >> Yeah. Like what is this like how much >> Yeah. Like what is this like how much how much of it does it does it do? Uh, how much of it does it does it do? Uh, how much of it does it does it do? Uh, so in 30 days, in 30, if you used it so in 30 days, in 30, if you used it so in 30 days, in 30, if you used it every day for 30 days, it would convert every day for 30 days, it would convert every day for 30 days, it would convert 300 gram of sugar, so 10 grams of sugar 300 gram of sugar, so 10 grams of sugar 300 gram of sugar, so 10 grams of sugar a day essentially, into 300 grams of a day essentially, into 300 grams of a day essentially, into 300 grams of fiber. fiber. fiber. >> It'd be like eating 94 pounds of of >> It'd be like eating 94 pounds of of >> It'd be like eating 94 pounds of of almonds. So if you took this every almonds. So if you took this every almonds. So if you took this every single day over the course of a month, single day over the course of a month, single day over the course of a month, you would essentially create 300 grams you would essentially create 300 grams you would essentially create 300 grams of soluble fiber. of soluble fiber. of soluble fiber. >> Interesting. That's crazy, dude. >> Interesting. That's crazy, dude. >> Interesting. That's crazy, dude. >> I'm going to I want to try, >> I'm going to I want to try, >> I'm going to I want to try, >> bro. This is wild. I don't know. I'm >> bro. This is wild. I don't know. I'm >> bro. This is wild. I don't know. I'm glad you're I'm glad you're going to glad you're I'm glad you're going to glad you're I'm glad you're going to take it now cuz I've been so curious take it now cuz I've been so curious take it now cuz I've been so curious about it. about it. about it. >> This is crazy science. >> This is crazy science. >> This is crazy science. >> I know how crazy their other stuff was. >> I know how crazy their other stuff was. >> I know how crazy their other stuff was. Remember when we first met them, Remember when we first met them, Remember when we first met them, >> they they they they did the alcohol one >> they they they they did the alcohol one >> they they they they did the alcohol one first cuz they knew that would be the first cuz they knew that would be the first cuz they knew that would be the most marketable, but it wasn't what they most marketable, but it wasn't what they most marketable, but it wasn't what they were most excited about and that's blown were most excited about and that's blown were most excited about and that's blown me away, right? So I I mean, we've me away, right? So I I mean, we've me away, right? So I I mean, we've talked about Ziotic forever and and how talked about Ziotic forever and and how talked about Ziotic forever and and how crazy and they want they had way bigger crazy and they want they had way bigger crazy and they want they had way bigger plans for other stuff. It was just they plans for other stuff. It was just they plans for other stuff. It was just they knew that was lowhanging fruit that the knew that was lowhanging fruit that the knew that was lowhanging fruit that the general pop would would would be all general pop would would would be all general pop would would would be all about the market. Someone might be about the market. Someone might be about the market. Someone might be wondering what what is the benefit of wondering what what is the benefit of wondering what what is the benefit of this? Why would I want to I heard fiber this? Why would I want to I heard fiber this? Why would I want to I heard fiber is good for me. What's the benefit? Uh is good for me. What's the benefit? Uh is good for me. What's the benefit? Uh better digestion, lower inflammation, better digestion, lower inflammation, better digestion, lower inflammation, reduced appetite. Like fiber uh produces reduced appetite. Like fiber uh produces reduced appetite. Like fiber uh produces more satiety. Uh you should get better more satiety. Uh you should get better more satiety. Uh you should get better blood sugar. blood sugar. blood sugar. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because of the fiber, >> Because of the fiber, >> Because of the fiber, >> I think. Yeah. >> I think. Yeah. >> I think. Yeah. >> You should have more consistent energy >> You should have more consistent energy >> You should have more consistent energy instead of ups and downs. Uh cuz that's instead of ups and downs. Uh cuz that's instead of ups and downs. Uh cuz that's what soluble fiber stools. what soluble fiber stools. what soluble fiber stools. >> Yeah. Yeah. Better. That's what So >> Yeah. Yeah. Better. That's what So >> Yeah. Yeah. Better. That's what So Doug's the only one that's used it Doug's the only one that's used it Doug's the only one that's used it consistently. He says that he has better consistently. He says that he has better consistently. He says that he has better gut health. gut health. gut health. >> Yeah. I'm super Well, let's all let's >> Yeah. I'm super Well, let's all let's >> Yeah. I'm super Well, let's all let's all make a commitment to be consistent all make a commitment to be consistent all make a commitment to be consistent with it and see what happens. See what with it and see what happens. See what with it and see what happens. See what we all report back. Be we all report back. Be we all report back. Be >> cool to experiment. >> cool to experiment. >> cool to experiment. >> I've been very curious. So, I'm glad we >> I've been very curious. So, I'm glad we >> I've been very curious. So, I'm glad we we've got it now for Hey, did you see we've got it now for Hey, did you see we've got it now for Hey, did you see Doug pulled up the um stoicism? Doug pulled up the um stoicism? Doug pulled up the um stoicism? >> Yeah, I was on the I increased by 400%. >> Yeah, I was on the I increased by 400%. >> Yeah, I was on the I increased by 400%. >> On some platforms, but I want to know >> On some platforms, but I want to know >> On some platforms, but I want to know what the time frame is because I what the time frame is because I what the time frame is because I remember it was definitely on this rise remember it was definitely on this rise remember it was definitely on this rise about uh six or seven years ago. When about uh six or seven years ago. When about uh six or seven years ago. When was it that we had what's his name on was it that we had what's his name on was it that we had what's his name on the show? the show? the show? >> Uh >> Uh >> Uh >> oh, Ryan. Ryan Holiday. Ryan Holiday. >> oh, Ryan. Ryan Holiday. Ryan Holiday. >> oh, Ryan. Ryan Holiday. Ryan Holiday. Was it Ryan Holiday? Was it Ryan Holiday? Was it Ryan Holiday? >> Yeah, Ryan. Ryan Holiday. >> Yeah, Ryan. Ryan Holiday. >> Yeah, Ryan. Ryan Holiday. >> He kind of jumped the shark during co, >> He kind of jumped the shark during co, >> He kind of jumped the shark during co, didn't he? He did. Yeah, a little bit. didn't he? He did. Yeah, a little bit. didn't he? He did. Yeah, a little bit. >> It was prior to that. Yeah. >> It was prior to that. Yeah. >> It was prior to that. Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I think it was before that >> Yeah. So, I think it was before that >> Yeah. So, I think it was before that where we saw the So, I'm wondering if where we saw the So, I'm wondering if where we saw the So, I'm wondering if it's still if it's still happening that it's still if it's still happening that it's still if it's still happening that way, but yeah, it's interesting. We'll way, but yeah, it's interesting. We'll way, but yeah, it's interesting. We'll see. see. see. >> But, I mean, it's uh I actually hadn't >> But, I mean, it's uh I actually hadn't >> But, I mean, it's uh I actually hadn't thought about what you said and and you thought about what you said and and you thought about what you said and and you know, I tend to try to be as optimistic know, I tend to try to be as optimistic know, I tend to try to be as optimistic as I possibly can. And I think that's a as I possibly can. And I think that's a as I possibly can. And I think that's a very optimistic way to look at our very optimistic way to look at our very optimistic way to look at our future with where things are going future with where things are going future with where things are going because I know there's a lot of because I know there's a lot of because I know there's a lot of fear-mongering going on with fear-mongering going on with fear-mongering going on with >> well if you're thinking doesn't need to >> well if you're thinking doesn't need to >> well if you're thinking doesn't need to go so directly to pragmatic go so directly to pragmatic go so directly to pragmatic uh skills. uh skills. uh skills. >> Yeah. It's we have a we have a >> Yeah. It's we have a we have a >> Yeah. It's we have a we have a calculator for everything now. That's calculator for everything now. That's calculator for everything now. That's great way to think of it in my opinion. great way to think of it in my opinion. great way to think of it in my opinion. It's just like you have a calculator for It's just like you have a calculator for It's just like you have a calculator for almost everything now. almost everything now. almost everything now. >> Yeah. So now I can do more like deep >> Yeah. So now I can do more like deep >> Yeah. So now I can do more like deep thinking thinking thinking >> type stuff that isn't so pragmatic cuz >> type stuff that isn't so pragmatic cuz >> type stuff that isn't so pragmatic cuz all that pragmatic stuff's taken care of all that pragmatic stuff's taken care of all that pragmatic stuff's taken care of >> by my AI that I tell to you know do this >> by my AI that I tell to you know do this >> by my AI that I tell to you know do this that and the other. that and the other. that and the other. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know which might actually be a good >> You know which might actually be a good >> You know which might actually be a good thing. thing. thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Might actually make people better. >> Might actually make people better. >> Might actually make people better. >> I mean ideally you'd want those both to >> I mean ideally you'd want those both to >> I mean ideally you'd want those both to coexist right so you get the bit of more coexist right so you get the bit of more coexist right so you get the bit of more breaks uh you know with the detriment to breaks uh you know with the detriment to breaks uh you know with the detriment to it. But maybe we don't get there. And it. But maybe we don't get there. And it. But maybe we don't get there. And then that's the optimism where it's like then that's the optimism where it's like then that's the optimism where it's like okay well now we can just focus on why okay well now we can just focus on why okay well now we can just focus on why you know instead of can we like should you know instead of can we like should you know instead of can we like should we well I also think if you if you start we well I also think if you if you start we well I also think if you if you start going deep down the theological and going deep down the theological and going deep down the theological and philosophical rabbit hole you people philosophical rabbit hole you people philosophical rabbit hole you people will choose to do things hard do hard will choose to do things hard do hard will choose to do things hard do hard things and choose even though they have things and choose even though they have things and choose even though they have the resources and the tools and the resources and the tools and the resources and the tools and >> it'll make better people. >> it'll make better people. >> it'll make better people. >> Yeah. Like exactly. It's just like oh I >> Yeah. Like exactly. It's just like oh I >> Yeah. Like exactly. It's just like oh I know I could outsource this thing but know I could outsource this thing but know I could outsource this thing but I'm going to choose to go do this thing I'm going to choose to go do this thing I'm going to choose to go do this thing because I know the value. because I know the value. because I know the value. >> Fills me. Yeah, >> Fills me. Yeah, >> Fills me. Yeah, >> right. I know the value of it. >> right. I know the value of it. >> right. I know the value of it. >> Your meaning will feel a lot more >> Your meaning will feel a lot more >> Your meaning will feel a lot more powerful. powerful. powerful. >> It'll be in the future. That's a kind of >> It'll be in the future. That's a kind of >> It'll be in the future. That's a kind of a cool interesting thought to about a cool interesting thought to about a cool interesting thought to about that. that. that. >> I have a um Did I tell you guys the >> I have a um Did I tell you guys the >> I have a um Did I tell you guys the Florida man? I love that. Is it Florida Florida man? I love that. Is it Florida Florida man? I love that. Is it Florida man? Is it news articles? man? Is it news articles? man? Is it news articles? >> I got to do is look up Yeah. an article >> I got to do is look up Yeah. an article >> I got to do is look up Yeah. an article that like where whatever date uh like is that like where whatever date uh like is that like where whatever date uh like is your birthday. I heard somebody talk your birthday. I heard somebody talk your birthday. I heard somebody talk about this. about this. about this. >> Florida man. >> Florida man. >> Florida man. >> Florida man and then >> Florida man and then >> Florida man and then >> there'll be some crazy >> there'll be some crazy >> there'll be some crazy >> something happened. >> something happened. >> something happened. >> What? What? Say Florida man and then >> What? What? Say Florida man and then >> What? What? Say Florida man and then your birthday. your birthday. your birthday. >> Your birthday. Oh, that's hilarious. >> Your birthday. Oh, that's hilarious. >> Your birthday. Oh, that's hilarious. >> I just lick it up and see what happens. >> I just lick it up and see what happens. >> I just lick it up and see what happens. >> Let's do all of our Let's do all of >> Let's do all of our Let's do all of >> Let's do all of our Let's do all of ours. Do everybody's birthday. Florida, ours. Do everybody's birthday. Florida, ours. Do everybody's birthday. Florida, man. And then your all of our birthdays man. And then your all of our birthdays man. And then your all of our birthdays and see what happens. That's actually and see what happens. That's actually and see what happens. That's actually >> No, do yours and uh and then >> No, do yours and uh and then >> No, do yours and uh and then >> Yeah. Should you Is it Is it bad to say >> Yeah. Should you Is it Is it bad to say >> Yeah. Should you Is it Is it bad to say your birthday on air? your birthday on air? your birthday on air? >> Well, you don't have to say your You >> Well, you don't have to say your You >> Well, you don't have to say your You don't have to say the whole year. Is it don't have to say the whole year. Is it don't have to say the whole year. Is it just the month? just the month? just the month? >> Just the month and day. >> Just the month and day. >> Just the month and day. >> Yeah, just on the day. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, just on the day. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, just on the day. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. So So here's Doug, Florida man, >> Yeah. So So here's Doug, Florida man, >> Yeah. So So here's Doug, Florida man, June 23rd. Uh, it involved a 29-year-old June 23rd. Uh, it involved a 29-year-old June 23rd. Uh, it involved a 29-year-old who was arrested and charged with simple who was arrested and charged with simple who was arrested and charged with simple assault for punching Philadelphia Eagles assault for punching Philadelphia Eagles assault for punching Philadelphia Eagles tight. tight. tight. Philadelphia Eagles tied in. That's Philadelphia Eagles tied in. That's Philadelphia Eagles tied in. That's hilarious. hilarious. hilarious. >> Trying with that, Adams. >> Trying with that, Adams. >> Trying with that, Adams. >> November >> November >> November >> November 16th. >> November 16th. >> November 16th. Florida man November 16th. This is Florida man November 16th. This is Florida man November 16th. This is hilarious. I've never heard I've never hilarious. I've never heard I've never hilarious. I've never heard I've never heard of this. heard of this. heard of this. >> Let's see. All right. Several Florida >> Let's see. All right. Several Florida >> Let's see. All right. Several Florida man incidents have occurred on November man incidents have occurred on November man incidents have occurred on November 16th 16th 16th >> where a man fired a gun during an >> where a man fired a gun during an >> where a man fired a gun during an argument about chicken eggs. argument about chicken eggs. argument about chicken eggs. 2023 arrest and unauthorized massage at 2023 arrest and unauthorized massage at 2023 arrest and unauthorized massage at a rehab center. a rehab center. a rehab center. >> Unauthorized massage >> Unauthorized massage >> Unauthorized massage >> 2017 arrest for harming a dog with a >> 2017 arrest for harming a dog with a >> 2017 arrest for harming a dog with a firecracker. firecracker. firecracker. You got some good ones, dude. Do mind, You got some good ones, dude. Do mind, You got some good ones, dude. Do mind, dog. February 4. dog. February 4. dog. February 4. >> Let's do what mine says. >> Let's do what mine says. >> Let's do what mine says. >> Florida man February. >> Florida man February. >> Florida man February. >> So far, I think Adams is the better one. >> So far, I think Adams is the better one. >> So far, I think Adams is the better one. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Florida man dresses >> Florida man dresses >> Florida man dresses out troopers. out troopers. out troopers. >> Oh, that's the best one. That's the best >> Oh, that's the best one. That's the best >> Oh, that's the best one. That's the best one. Florida man dressed in a Dalmatian one. Florida man dressed in a Dalmatian one. Florida man dressed in a Dalmatian onesie outruns troopers. That is epic. onesie outruns troopers. That is epic. onesie outruns troopers. That is epic. >> That's good. All right, dude. January >> That's good. All right, dude. January >> That's good. All right, dude. January 26th, 26th, 26th, >> dude. Justin's. So, I win. So, my >> dude. Justin's. So, I win. So, my >> dude. Justin's. So, I win. So, my birthday. birthday. birthday. >> Yeah, you're winning so far. >> Yeah, you're winning so far. >> Yeah, you're winning so far. >> A 76-year-old Jacksonville man was >> A 76-year-old Jacksonville man was >> A 76-year-old Jacksonville man was arrested to 60 years in prison for arrested to 60 years in prison for arrested to 60 years in prison for sexual exploitation. Oh, that's sexual exploitation. Oh, that's sexual exploitation. Oh, that's terrible. terrible. terrible. >> I went down a dark path. >> I went down a dark path. >> I went down a dark path. >> Damn, Justin. This is terrible. >> Damn, Justin. This is terrible. >> Damn, Justin. This is terrible. >> A man was pointed after pointing a laser >> A man was pointed after pointing a laser >> A man was pointed after pointing a laser at a manatee manatee county sheriff at a manatee manatee county sheriff at a manatee manatee county sheriff office helicopter. office helicopter. office helicopter. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I guess mine mine was the best one. I guess mine mine was the best one. I guess mine mine was the best one. >> Yeah, bro. Dalmatian onesie outran >> Yeah, bro. Dalmatian onesie outran >> Yeah, bro. Dalmatian onesie outran straight two. straight two. straight two. >> So So read this story. This this story >> So So read this story. This this story >> So So read this story. This this story was uh I read this was uh I read this was uh I read this >> Kobe died on my birthday. That was kind >> Kobe died on my birthday. That was kind >> Kobe died on my birthday. That was kind of of of >> Oh, is that true? Yeah. >> Oh, is that true? Yeah. >> Oh, is that true? Yeah. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> So this was this is funny. I'm going to >> So this was this is funny. I'm going to >> So this was this is funny. I'm going to read the story to you. read the story to you. read the story to you. >> A Florida Mound was found sunburned and >> A Florida Mound was found sunburned and >> A Florida Mound was found sunburned and disoriented on a causeway claiming he disoriented on a causeway claiming he disoriented on a causeway claiming he was kidnapped by dolphins and forced to was kidnapped by dolphins and forced to was kidnapped by dolphins and forced to build an underwater city. build an underwater city. build an underwater city. How much acid was he? How much acid? How much acid was he? How much acid? How much acid was he? How much acid? >> Hey, listen. Lee County Sheriff's >> Hey, listen. Lee County Sheriff's >> Hey, listen. Lee County Sheriff's deputies responded to the Santaal deputies responded to the Santaal deputies responded to the Santaal Causeway early Monday after a motorist Causeway early Monday after a motorist Causeway early Monday after a motorist reported a man standing on the shoulder reported a man standing on the shoulder reported a man standing on the shoulder soaking wet and drawing blueprints in soaking wet and drawing blueprints in soaking wet and drawing blueprints in the sand. the sand. the sand. >> According to >> According to the police report, dude, >> According to the police report, dude, Ricky James Hollowell, 33, was found Ricky James Hollowell, 33, was found Ricky James Hollowell, 33, was found barefoot, severely sunburned, and barefoot, severely sunburned, and barefoot, severely sunburned, and wearing only swim trucks. He told wearing only swim trucks. He told wearing only swim trucks. He told deputies he had been taken against his deputies he had been taken against his deputies he had been taken against his will by a pod of dolphins 3 days ago and will by a pod of dolphins 3 days ago and will by a pod of dolphins 3 days ago and forced to work on what he called I forced to work on what he called I forced to work on what he called I didn't know that could happen didn't know that could happen didn't know that could happen >> an underwater construction project. >> an underwater construction project. >> an underwater construction project. >> He claimed the dolphins approached him >> He claimed the dolphins approached him >> He claimed the dolphins approached him while he was swimming off Fort Meers while he was swimming off Fort Meers while he was swimming off Fort Meers Beach and escorted him to a site Beach and escorted him to a site Beach and escorted him to a site approximately 40 ft below the surface approximately 40 ft below the surface approximately 40 ft below the surface where they needed help building where they needed help building where they needed help building structures. structures. structures. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> He said that the dolphins communicated >> He said that the dolphins communicated >> He said that the dolphins communicated through a series of clicks that he through a series of clicks that he through a series of clicks that he eventually learned to interpret. And the eventually learned to interpret. And the eventually learned to interpret. And the project for Foreman was a dolphin. All project for Foreman was a dolphin. All project for Foreman was a dolphin. All this while he's holding his I was going this while he's holding his I was going this while he's holding his I was going to say all this while he's holding his to say all this while he's holding his to say all this while he's holding his >> Hey, listen. Listen. Threw a blow hole. >> Hey, listen. Listen. Threw a blow hole. >> Hey, listen. Listen. Threw a blow hole. >> Hey, the project forbid was a dolphin >> Hey, the project forbid was a dolphin >> Hey, the project forbid was a dolphin that was called Gerald. that was called Gerald. that was called Gerald. >> The project foreman. >> The project foreman. >> The project foreman. >> He said, "Hey, listen. When he asked, >> He said, "Hey, listen. When he asked, >> He said, "Hey, listen. When he asked, "How did you breathe under water for 3 "How did you breathe under water for 3 "How did you breathe under water for 3 days?" He said, "Gerald handled that." I days?" He said, "Gerald handled that." I days?" He said, "Gerald handled that." I didn't ask questions. You don't question didn't ask questions. You don't question didn't ask questions. You don't question Gerald. Gerald. Gerald. >> You don't question Gerald, >> You don't question Gerald, >> You don't question Gerald, >> bro. Dude, no. Take it back. It had to >> bro. Dude, no. Take it back. It had to >> bro. Dude, no. Take it back. It had to be meth. be meth. be meth. >> Hey, this is me, right? >> Hey, this is me, right? >> Hey, this is me, right? >> He had drawn an elaborate blueprint in >> He had drawn an elaborate blueprint in >> He had drawn an elaborate blueprint in the sand the deputies said was detailed the sand the deputies said was detailed the sand the deputies said was detailed enough to be consered. There. There was enough to be consered. There. There was enough to be consered. There. There was condos, a town square, recreation condos, a town square, recreation condos, a town square, recreation center. center. center. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Bro, look at the guy's picture, dude. >> Bro, look at the guy's picture, dude. >> Bro, look at the guy's picture, dude. >> Oh my god. He's like all sunburned. >> Oh my god. He's like all sunburned. >> Oh my god. He's like all sunburned. >> What if he's telling the truth? >> What if he's telling the truth? >> What if he's telling the truth? >> Never question Gerald. Never question. >> Never question Gerald. Never question. >> Never question Gerald. Never question. >> What if he What if he's telling the >> What if he What if he's telling the >> What if he What if he's telling the truth? You know what I mean? Like, truth? You know what I mean? Like, truth? You know what I mean? Like, nobody ever believes me. No, dude. He nobody ever believes me. No, dude. He nobody ever believes me. No, dude. He was actually under there. was actually under there. was actually under there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Tell the humans. >> Tell the humans. >> Tell the humans. >> Nobody believes me. The humans won't >> Nobody believes me. The humans won't >> Nobody believes me. The humans won't believe me. No, tell the humans. believe me. No, tell the humans. believe me. No, tell the humans. >> Oh my god. So good. >> Oh my god. So good. >> Oh my god. So good. >> I got a sun uh a sun exposure study. >> I got a sun uh a sun exposure study. >> I got a sun uh a sun exposure study. Let's see if I can find it. I don't know Let's see if I can find it. I don't know Let's see if I can find it. I don't know if you guys saw this on X. It was uh if you guys saw this on X. It was uh if you guys saw this on X. It was uh it's making its rounds, but um it was a it's making its rounds, but um it was a it's making its rounds, but um it was a study on and I gotta find it. I study on and I gotta find it. I study on and I gotta find it. I >> hope it's good for us. I've been doing a >> hope it's good for us. I've been doing a >> hope it's good for us. I've been doing a lot of lot of lot of >> No, it's really good. Uh I got to look >> No, it's really good. Uh I got to look >> No, it's really good. Uh I got to look it up. U let me Yeah, give me a second it up. U let me Yeah, give me a second it up. U let me Yeah, give me a second because I'm going to find this up. Uh because I'm going to find this up. Uh because I'm going to find this up. Uh find this, but find this, but find this, but let me see. Sun exposure. Well, that let me see. Sun exposure. Well, that let me see. Sun exposure. Well, that sucks. Can't find it, can I? Well, I'll sucks. Can't find it, can I? Well, I'll sucks. Can't find it, can I? Well, I'll tell you what what I think the study tell you what what I think the study tell you what what I think the study said. uh women who got more sun exposure said. uh women who got more sun exposure said. uh women who got more sun exposure uh were less likely to die of all cause uh were less likely to die of all cause uh were less likely to die of all cause uh mortality uh mortality uh mortality in this particular study. in this particular study. in this particular study. >> Why just women? >> Why just women? >> Why just women? >> Because it was a is a study done on >> Because it was a is a study done on >> Because it was a is a study done on women. Done. Look up this study. women. Done. Look up this study. women. Done. Look up this study. >> Uh a Oh, there it is. 2014 study of >> Uh a Oh, there it is. 2014 study of >> Uh a Oh, there it is. 2014 study of 29,518 29,518 29,518 Swedish women. Good job, Doug. Found Swedish women. Good job, Doug. Found Swedish women. Good job, Doug. Found that avoiding sun exposure is a risk that avoiding sun exposure is a risk that avoiding sun exposure is a risk factor for all cause mortality. factor for all cause mortality. factor for all cause mortality. >> Yeah. So, mortality rates doubled in >> Yeah. So, mortality rates doubled in >> Yeah. So, mortality rates doubled in those who avoided the sun compared to those who avoided the sun compared to those who avoided the sun compared to those who had the highest exposure. those who had the highest exposure. those who had the highest exposure. Active sunbathers lived longer and had Active sunbathers lived longer and had Active sunbathers lived longer and had lower risks of cardiovascular disease lower risks of cardiovascular disease lower risks of cardiovascular disease and non-cancer deaths. and non-cancer deaths. and non-cancer deaths. >> Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I feel like >> Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I feel like >> Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I feel like we've been scared away from the sun. Uh, we've been scared away from the sun. Uh, we've been scared away from the sun. Uh, you know, just with all this like cancer you know, just with all this like cancer you know, just with all this like cancer and melanoma and and melanoma and and melanoma and >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Which is so weird. I think at least for >> Which is so weird. I think at least for >> Which is so weird. I think at least for me personally, it's like I feel a huge me personally, it's like I feel a huge me personally, it's like I feel a huge difference when I get out. difference when I get out. difference when I get out. >> I feel like I'm charged up. I feel so >> I feel like I'm charged up. I feel so >> I feel like I'm charged up. I feel so different, dude. I sleep I I sleep different, dude. I sleep I I sleep different, dude. I sleep I I sleep better. I feel I have more energy better. I feel I have more energy better. I feel I have more energy throughout that day. It just I feel so throughout that day. It just I feel so throughout that day. It just I feel so much better. much better. much better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I And now part of this is like did they >> I And now part of this is like did they >> I And now part of this is like did they control for people who were maybe ill control for people who were maybe ill control for people who were maybe ill who weren't out in the sun or whatever. who weren't out in the sun or whatever. who weren't out in the sun or whatever. >> I'd like to see uh >> I'd like to see uh >> I'd like to see uh >> remember during co when they told us not >> remember during co when they told us not >> remember during co when they told us not to get out in the sun. I remember I to get out in the sun. I remember I to get out in the sun. I remember I remember what a weird remember what a weird remember what a weird >> when I had all I did was go out on my >> when I had all I did was go out on my >> when I had all I did was go out on my porch and sit in the chair for porch and sit in the chair for porch and sit in the chair for >> like if you're sick stay inside. Don't >> like if you're sick stay inside. Don't >> like if you're sick stay inside. Don't even go outside by yourself. even go outside by yourself. even go outside by yourself. >> What? The biggest offender was the guy >> What? The biggest offender was the guy >> What? The biggest offender was the guy like out on his surfboard away from like out on his surfboard away from like out on his surfboard away from >> and they arrested him. >> and they arrested him. >> and they arrested him. >> Hey, >> Hey, >> Hey, >> they arrested him. >> they arrested him. >> they arrested him. >> That's what I knew. Everything was >> That's what I knew. Everything was >> That's what I knew. Everything was nonsense. nonsense. nonsense. >> Yeah. Do you guys think that that whole >> Yeah. Do you guys think that that whole >> Yeah. Do you guys think that that whole period of time I have a theory because period of time I have a theory because period of time I have a theory because it was so crazy co was so crazy. The it was so crazy co was so crazy. The it was so crazy co was so crazy. The advice and and what they told us was so advice and and what they told us was so advice and and what they told us was so obviously everybody can look back now obviously everybody can look back now obviously everybody can look back now and go that was all crazy. Everything and go that was all crazy. Everything and go that was all crazy. Everything they said was crazy. they said was crazy. they said was crazy. >> Rational people can do that. >> Rational people can do that. >> Rational people can do that. >> I think I think most people know. Um >> I think I think most people know. Um >> I think I think most people know. Um >> bro did Hey, they just listen. Did you >> bro did Hey, they just listen. Did you >> bro did Hey, they just listen. Did you guys know that the the guys know that the the guys know that the the >> Dude, I see a lot of maskers still. >> Dude, I see a lot of maskers still. >> Dude, I see a lot of maskers still. >> They just halted We I still see some >> They just halted We I still see some >> They just halted We I still see some people mask. people mask. people mask. >> I do, too. >> I do, too. >> I do, too. >> I know. We're in the Bay Area, though. I >> I know. We're in the Bay Area, though. I >> I know. We're in the Bay Area, though. I I just saw uh that they're stopping a I just saw uh that they're stopping a I just saw uh that they're stopping a COVID uh the COVID vaccine uh further COVID uh the COVID vaccine uh further COVID uh the COVID vaccine uh further studies because they couldn't get enough studies because they couldn't get enough studies because they couldn't get enough participants. Nobody wants to take the participants. Nobody wants to take the participants. Nobody wants to take the the the CO jab. the the CO jab. the the CO jab. >> So, I think I have a theory. >> So, I think I have a theory. >> So, I think I have a theory. >> Word got out. >> Word got out. >> Word got out. >> This is a conspiracy theory. Okay. So, >> This is a conspiracy theory. Okay. So, >> This is a conspiracy theory. Okay. So, everybody calm down. everybody calm down. everybody calm down. >> Which just means truth. >> Which just means truth. >> Which just means truth. >> Maybe lately. >> Maybe lately. >> Maybe lately. >> Talk to me in three months. >> Talk to me in three months. >> Talk to me in three months. >> We're like 10 and0 right now. I was >> We're like 10 and0 right now. I was >> We're like 10 and0 right now. I was going to say was with him. That's how going to say was with him. That's how going to say was with him. That's how you guys got me on the team. you guys got me on the team. you guys got me on the team. >> I feel like I feel like that whole >> I feel like I feel like that whole >> I feel like I feel like that whole period of time period of time period of time >> was not to see who they could control >> was not to see who they could control >> was not to see who they could control and all that stuff. That's what people and all that stuff. That's what people and all that stuff. That's what people thought at the time. I wonder if it was thought at the time. I wonder if it was thought at the time. I wonder if it was just for them to just to cause later on just for them to just to cause later on just for them to just to cause later on complete distrust in all establishment. complete distrust in all establishment. complete distrust in all establishment. >> Oh, I I don't disagree with that. >> Oh, I I don't disagree with that. >> Oh, I I don't disagree with that. >> Practice for energy lockdowns. I mean, I >> Practice for energy lockdowns. I mean, I >> Practice for energy lockdowns. I mean, I look the stuff that I just can't I can't look the stuff that I just can't I can't look the stuff that I just can't I can't wrap my brain around um what has wrap my brain around um what has wrap my brain around um what has happened with the Epstein files and how happened with the Epstein files and how happened with the Epstein files and how much we just much we just much we just >> like I don't think there's anything more >> like I don't think there's anything more >> like I don't think there's anything more evil, evil, evil, bad, and egregious than than that whole bad, and egregious than than that whole bad, and egregious than than that whole mess. mess. mess. >> And >> And >> And >> yeah, are we still talking about this? >> yeah, are we still talking about this? >> yeah, are we still talking about this? >> I was so mad >> I was so mad >> I was so mad >> when Trump said that. Yeah. I mean I >> when Trump said that. Yeah. I mean I >> when Trump said that. Yeah. I mean I mean that's just and we're I mean what mean that's just and we're I mean what mean that's just and we're I mean what what would get us to rally together? what would get us to rally together? what would get us to rally together? >> We're too comfortable. >> We're too comfortable. >> We're too comfortable. >> I mean Yeah. Just >> I mean Yeah. Just >> I mean Yeah. Just >> comfortable. I mean >> comfortable. I mean >> comfortable. I mean >> what could be more evil than that? >> what could be more evil than that? >> what could be more evil than that? >> Yeah. What's more evil than than harming >> Yeah. What's more evil than than harming >> Yeah. What's more evil than than harming children like that? children like that? children like that? >> Doug, look up >> Doug, look up >> Doug, look up >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> term bread and circuses. You guys know >> term bread and circuses. You guys know >> term bread and circuses. You guys know where that comes from? where that comes from? where that comes from? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a That's an old term. >> Yeah. That's a That's an old term. >> Yeah. That's a That's an old term. >> You got him entertained and >> You got him entertained and >> You got him entertained and >> and fed >> and fed >> and fed >> and fed. >> and fed. >> and fed. >> Yeah. It's a it this is refers to the >> Yeah. It's a it this is refers to the >> Yeah. It's a it this is refers to the Roman political strategy of pacif. Roman political strategy of pacif. Roman political strategy of pacif. That's what the coliseum was all about That's what the coliseum was all about That's what the coliseum was all about >> with free food and entertainment to >> with free food and entertainment to >> with free food and entertainment to ensure loyalty. ensure loyalty. ensure loyalty. >> That's what that's why the coliseum was >> That's what that's why the coliseum was >> That's what that's why the coliseum was built was to do exactly that. built was to do exactly that. built was to do exactly that. >> The UFC fighting at the White House. >> The UFC fighting at the White House. >> The UFC fighting at the White House. >> This this was coined by the poet uh >> This this was coined by the poet uh >> This this was coined by the poet uh Juvenile around AD 100. It describes how Juvenile around AD 100. It describes how Juvenile around AD 100. It describes how citizens traded their political freedoms citizens traded their political freedoms citizens traded their political freedoms for sustenance and spectacles. Yep. for sustenance and spectacles. Yep. for sustenance and spectacles. Yep. Isn't that isn't that weird how we like Isn't that isn't that weird how we like Isn't that isn't that weird how we like this is it was so true then, still so this is it was so true then, still so this is it was so true then, still so true now. I just want to point out too true now. I just want to point out too true now. I just want to point out too though that because we I know we've though that because we I know we've though that because we I know we've avoided a lot of uh political talk on on avoided a lot of uh political talk on on avoided a lot of uh political talk on on this thing though that that a lot of this thing though that that a lot of this thing though that that a lot of people used to think that we were this people used to think that we were this people used to think that we were this like conservative type of podcast and I like conservative type of podcast and I like conservative type of podcast and I don't think anybody in here is proTrump don't think anybody in here is proTrump don't think anybody in here is proTrump at all anymore. I think uh everybody at all anymore. I think uh everybody at all anymore. I think uh everybody knows he's compromised and I'm not a fan knows he's compromised and I'm not a fan knows he's compromised and I'm not a fan of any of that stuff. So, you know, for of any of that stuff. So, you know, for of any of that stuff. So, you know, for all the the the libtards that used to all the the the libtards that used to all the the the libtards that used to think that we were just think that we were just think that we were just >> That'll do it. Adam, good job. >> That'll do it. Adam, good job. >> That'll do it. Adam, good job. >> Yeah. Yeah. LIKE YEAH, NOT ME. that >> Yeah. Yeah. LIKE YEAH, NOT ME. that >> Yeah. Yeah. LIKE YEAH, NOT ME. that would that insult would that insult would that insult >> that thought were these hardcore >> that thought were these hardcore >> that thought were these hardcore conservatives. No, at no logical conservatives. No, at no logical conservatives. No, at no logical thinkers have always been that way. thinkers have always been that way. thinkers have always been that way. Always called it as it is. And I think Always called it as it is. And I think Always called it as it is. And I think what we've seen Trump do in the last what we've seen Trump do in the last what we've seen Trump do in the last year and a half or so is year and a half or so is year and a half or so is >> a lot of things are just check whoever's >> a lot of things are just check whoever's >> a lot of things are just check whoever's in power, man. Sure. Yeah. in power, man. Sure. Yeah. in power, man. Sure. Yeah. >> There is no left or right. It's it's >> There is no left or right. It's it's >> There is no left or right. It's it's literally like there it's all one. It's literally like there it's all one. It's literally like there it's all one. It's it's the same [ __ ] And and the it's the same [ __ ] And and the it's the same [ __ ] And and the Epstein thing is makes that so clear and Epstein thing is makes that so clear and Epstein thing is makes that so clear and obvious. And it's crazy that I I just obvious. And it's crazy that I I just obvious. And it's crazy that I I just I'm blown away that that's that wasn't I I'm blown away that that's that wasn't I I'm blown away that that's that wasn't I mean I think that's a bigger deal than mean I think that's a bigger deal than mean I think that's a bigger deal than CO was. CO was. CO was. >> CO was was crazy and scared a lot of >> CO was was crazy and scared a lot of >> CO was was crazy and scared a lot of people and there was a lot of people and there was a lot of people and there was a lot of uncertainty and they did gaslight all of uncertainty and they did gaslight all of uncertainty and they did gaslight all of us. us. us. >> But it's like Epstein is just pure evil >> But it's like Epstein is just pure evil >> But it's like Epstein is just pure evil and bad. It's like we're not throwing and bad. It's like we're not throwing and bad. It's like we're not throwing anybody in prison. We're not up in arms anybody in prison. We're not up in arms anybody in prison. We're not up in arms about that. Like we're not pissed off at about that. Like we're not pissed off at about that. Like we're not pissed off at our entire government. We're all still our entire government. We're all still our entire government. We're all still paying our taxes and showing up like paying our taxes and showing up like paying our taxes and showing up like >> that's cuz people are comfortable. I >> that's cuz people are comfortable. I >> that's cuz people are comfortable. I mean, what I mean, what what level? What mean, what I mean, what what level? What mean, what I mean, what what level? What level? What else has to level? What else has to level? What else has to >> triple the cost of gas? You'll see >> triple the cost of gas? You'll see >> triple the cost of gas? You'll see people I'm serious. people I'm serious. people I'm serious. >> You make gas go up three or four times >> You make gas go up three or four times >> You make gas go up three or four times more to distract us. more to distract us. more to distract us. >> You make everybody broke and then you'll >> You make everybody broke and then you'll >> You make everybody broke and then you'll see people up in arms. see people up in arms. see people up in arms. >> I mean, they're already heading that >> I mean, they're already heading that >> I mean, they're already heading that way. way. way. >> Yeah. But you make it like bad like >> Yeah. But you make it like bad like >> Yeah. But you make it like bad like people are broke broke. Then you'll see people are broke broke. Then you'll see people are broke broke. 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Back to the show. >> Our first caller is Amelia from >> Our first caller is Amelia from >> Our first caller is Amelia from Colorado. Colorado. Colorado. >> Hi Amelia. >> Hi Amelia. >> Hi Amelia. >> Hi Amelia. >> Hi Amelia. >> Hi Amelia. >> How you doing? >> How you doing? >> How you doing? >> Hi. Good to see you guys again. How are >> Hi. Good to see you guys again. How are >> Hi. Good to see you guys again. How are you guys? you guys? you guys? >> Yeah. How you been? >> Yeah. How you been? >> Yeah. How you been? >> Pretty good. Um, thank you guys for >> Pretty good. Um, thank you guys for >> Pretty good. Um, thank you guys for taking my question. taking my question. taking my question. >> Yeah, cool. How can we help you? >> Yeah, cool. How can we help you? >> Yeah, cool. How can we help you? >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Update us. >> Update us. >> Update us. >> Um, I'm just going to read what I wrote >> Um, I'm just going to read what I wrote >> Um, I'm just going to read what I wrote because I tend to ramble. Um, so because I tend to ramble. Um, so because I tend to ramble. Um, so 22-year-old dancer, I've had to take a 22-year-old dancer, I've had to take a 22-year-old dancer, I've had to take a gap year off from college to heal from gap year off from college to heal from gap year off from college to heal from Lyme disease and want to use this time Lyme disease and want to use this time Lyme disease and want to use this time off to build muscle. I attempted to bulk off to build muscle. I attempted to bulk off to build muscle. I attempted to bulk and stopped dancing in August of 2025 and stopped dancing in August of 2025 and stopped dancing in August of 2025 with a coach, but I didn't make any with a coach, but I didn't make any with a coach, but I didn't make any progress. And I think it's due to some progress. And I think it's due to some progress. And I think it's due to some underlying fears and maybe even the underlying fears and maybe even the underlying fears and maybe even the health issues themselves. I'm not sure health issues themselves. I'm not sure health issues themselves. I'm not sure if you guys have worked with any lime if you guys have worked with any lime if you guys have worked with any lime patients. Um, I need to bulk for health patients. Um, I need to bulk for health patients. Um, I need to bulk for health reasons. I think my low body fat reasons. I think my low body fat reasons. I think my low body fat percentage is contributing to a lack of percentage is contributing to a lack of percentage is contributing to a lack of period, hypothyroidism, and possibly period, hypothyroidism, and possibly period, hypothyroidism, and possibly exacerbating the Lyme disease symptoms. exacerbating the Lyme disease symptoms. exacerbating the Lyme disease symptoms. I want to bulk, but I feel like I need a I want to bulk, but I feel like I need a I want to bulk, but I feel like I need a professional to validate what I'm doing professional to validate what I'm doing professional to validate what I'm doing and guide me, making sure that I'm and guide me, making sure that I'm and guide me, making sure that I'm headed in the right direction. And I headed in the right direction. And I headed in the right direction. And I know that I need to gain body fat, but I know that I need to gain body fat, but I know that I need to gain body fat, but I also want to put a substantial amount of also want to put a substantial amount of also want to put a substantial amount of muscle on considering I think I have a muscle on considering I think I have a muscle on considering I think I have a missing button that my stomach kind of missing button that my stomach kind of missing button that my stomach kind of looks distended. And I've been in a cut looks distended. And I've been in a cut looks distended. And I've been in a cut or maintenance ever since I started or maintenance ever since I started or maintenance ever since I started lifting 5 years ago. And I've tried lifting 5 years ago. And I've tried lifting 5 years ago. And I've tried chasing strength, but I tend to add too chasing strength, but I tend to add too chasing strength, but I tend to add too much weight to the bar and break form, much weight to the bar and break form, much weight to the bar and break form, especially with my hyper mobility. I've especially with my hyper mobility. I've especially with my hyper mobility. I've learned that I shouldn't be going full learned that I shouldn't be going full learned that I shouldn't be going full range of motion. Um, those were like range of motion. Um, those were like range of motion. Um, those were like more my immediate goals, but long-term more my immediate goals, but long-term more my immediate goals, but long-term goals are to be more intuitive when it goals are to be more intuitive when it goals are to be more intuitive when it comes to my body's needs, switching comes to my body's needs, switching comes to my body's needs, switching training and nutrition depending on what training and nutrition depending on what training and nutrition depending on what phase I'm like, what phase of life I'm phase I'm like, what phase of life I'm phase I'm like, what phase of life I'm in. Cuz right now, I have a rigid in. Cuz right now, I have a rigid in. Cuz right now, I have a rigid schedule where like first thing when I schedule where like first thing when I schedule where like first thing when I wake up, I go to the gym. Because if I wake up, I go to the gym. Because if I wake up, I go to the gym. Because if I don't throughout the day, there's this don't throughout the day, there's this don't throughout the day, there's this like nagging voice in my head that's like nagging voice in my head that's like nagging voice in my head that's like, "You need to go to the gym. you like, "You need to go to the gym. you like, "You need to go to the gym. you need to go to the gym. And like I've had need to go to the gym. And like I've had need to go to the gym. And like I've had doctors kind of tell me that maybe I doctors kind of tell me that maybe I doctors kind of tell me that maybe I should work out later in the day because should work out later in the day because should work out later in the day because first thing in the morning might be too first thing in the morning might be too first thing in the morning might be too much for my nervous system. And then I much for my nervous system. And then I much for my nervous system. And then I want to have a good amount of muscle and want to have a good amount of muscle and want to have a good amount of muscle and perform with strength and power in the perform with strength and power in the perform with strength and power in the gym as well as in dance since that's gym as well as in dance since that's gym as well as in dance since that's what I love to do and want to do for a what I love to do and want to do for a what I love to do and want to do for a living. Um I want to be able to use living. Um I want to be able to use living. Um I want to be able to use tracking as a tool to meet my goals and tracking as a tool to meet my goals and tracking as a tool to meet my goals and not a vice. I'm scared to stop tracking not a vice. I'm scared to stop tracking not a vice. I'm scared to stop tracking because I don't ever feel fullness cues. because I don't ever feel fullness cues. because I don't ever feel fullness cues. And I want a healthy relationship with And I want a healthy relationship with And I want a healthy relationship with food and exercise, which is somewhat food and exercise, which is somewhat food and exercise, which is somewhat difficult considering the job of a difficult considering the job of a difficult considering the job of a dancer is to look good. I have fears dancer is to look good. I have fears dancer is to look good. I have fears around sitting still and getting fat and around sitting still and getting fat and around sitting still and getting fat and becoming the unhealthy classic American. becoming the unhealthy classic American. becoming the unhealthy classic American. So, I walk an unsustainable amount. So, I walk an unsustainable amount. So, I walk an unsustainable amount. Like, it's a lot. And I want to continue Like, it's a lot. And I want to continue Like, it's a lot. And I want to continue to walk, but not in a neurotic, to walk, but not in a neurotic, to walk, but not in a neurotic, controlling fashion, if you couldn't controlling fashion, if you couldn't controlling fashion, if you couldn't tell the theme of all of this. Um, and tell the theme of all of this. Um, and tell the theme of all of this. Um, and currently I'm running maps muscle mommy currently I'm running maps muscle mommy currently I'm running maps muscle mommy 15. I'm doing each phase 6 to 8 weeks to 15. I'm doing each phase 6 to 8 weeks to 15. I'm doing each phase 6 to 8 weeks to acclimate to the exercises. I'm acclimate to the exercises. I'm acclimate to the exercises. I'm currently in phase 2, week 4. I walk for currently in phase 2, week 4. I walk for currently in phase 2, week 4. I walk for 1 hour in the morning after breakfast, 1 1 hour in the morning after breakfast, 1 1 hour in the morning after breakfast, 1 hour in the afternoon after lunch, and hour in the afternoon after lunch, and hour in the afternoon after lunch, and according to my ordering, I get anywhere according to my ordering, I get anywhere according to my ordering, I get anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 steps a day, 7 from 10,000 to 20,000 steps a day, 7 from 10,000 to 20,000 steps a day, 7 hours of sleep. I eat 3,000 calories, hours of sleep. I eat 3,000 calories, hours of sleep. I eat 3,000 calories, around 30% protein, 40% carbs, and 30% around 30% protein, 40% carbs, and 30% around 30% protein, 40% carbs, and 30% fat. So, that was my entire essay. And fat. So, that was my entire essay. And fat. So, that was my entire essay. And >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> right, Amelia, >> right, Amelia, >> right, Amelia, >> trying to unpack that. >> trying to unpack that. >> trying to unpack that. >> You eat 3,000 calories every day. >> You eat 3,000 calories every day. >> You eat 3,000 calories every day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're sitting at 10% body fat >> And you're sitting at 10% body fat >> And you're sitting at 10% body fat >> according to this DEXA scan. Yeah. >> according to this DEXA scan. Yeah. >> according to this DEXA scan. Yeah. >> I'm looking at your picture. You are uh >> I'm looking at your picture. You are uh >> I'm looking at your picture. You are uh Yes, you are super lean. 3,000 calories Yes, you are super lean. 3,000 calories Yes, you are super lean. 3,000 calories is a decent amount. is a decent amount. is a decent amount. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's not That's not bad. >> Yeah. That's not That's not bad. >> Yeah. That's not That's not bad. >> I think it's cuz I walk so much cuz I'm >> I think it's cuz I walk so much cuz I'm >> I think it's cuz I walk so much cuz I'm like scared to be sedentary. or do you like scared to be sedentary. or do you like scared to be sedentary. or do you think the walking isn't think the walking isn't think the walking isn't >> okay? So on on the surface that's not a >> okay? So on on the surface that's not a >> okay? So on on the surface that's not a problem. problem. problem. >> You have a healthy metabus. >> You have a healthy metabus. >> You have a healthy metabus. >> Yeah. Yeah. The it's not a problem on >> Yeah. Yeah. The it's not a problem on >> Yeah. Yeah. The it's not a problem on the surface. The issue is the root of the surface. The issue is the root of the surface. The issue is the root of where it's coming from. So if you were where it's coming from. So if you were where it's coming from. So if you were just like, "Hey, I'm walking and it's just like, "Hey, I'm walking and it's just like, "Hey, I'm walking and it's great and it's leisure and I enjoy it. great and it's leisure and I enjoy it. great and it's leisure and I enjoy it. It's not an issue, but you said a couple It's not an issue, but you said a couple It's not an issue, but you said a couple things that uh were red flags like I things that uh were red flags like I things that uh were red flags like I walk neurotically. walk neurotically. walk neurotically. >> I can't sit still. >> I can't sit still. >> I can't sit still. >> Uh I have to work out or I'm thinking >> Uh I have to work out or I'm thinking >> Uh I have to work out or I'm thinking about it all the time." about it all the time." about it all the time." >> Yeah. So, on paper, you're not doing >> Yeah. So, on paper, you're not doing >> Yeah. So, on paper, you're not doing anything wrong. You're eating enough anything wrong. You're eating enough anything wrong. You're eating enough food. You're following good strength food. You're following good strength food. You're following good strength training. Your steps are fine. Uh you're training. Your steps are fine. Uh you're training. Your steps are fine. Uh you're getting good sleep. But the the what's getting good sleep. But the the what's getting good sleep. But the the what's behind all of that is what we need to behind all of that is what we need to behind all of that is what we need to work on. work on. work on. >> And uh I mean, your best bet uh honestly >> And uh I mean, your best bet uh honestly >> And uh I mean, your best bet uh honestly through this process is going to be step through this process is going to be step through this process is going to be step one is going to be to outsource control. one is going to be to outsource control. one is going to be to outsource control. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> And that's going to be the step towards >> And that's going to be the step towards >> And that's going to be the step towards not having not feeling like you need to not having not feeling like you need to not having not feeling like you need to control so much. control so much. control so much. >> Uh I I mean I could tell you what this >> Uh I I mean I could tell you what this >> Uh I I mean I could tell you what this looks like, but I think you need to work looks like, but I think you need to work looks like, but I think you need to work with a coach for like 6 months with a coach for like 6 months with a coach for like 6 months >> so you can outsource it and get used to >> so you can outsource it and get used to >> so you can outsource it and get used to letting go letting go letting go >> of control. In other words, you're going >> of control. In other words, you're going >> of control. In other words, you're going to be like, you do what I you I'll do to be like, you do what I you I'll do to be like, you do what I you I'll do what you tell me and I'm just going to what you tell me and I'm just going to what you tell me and I'm just going to do that. So that's like a that's an do that. So that's like a that's an do that. So that's like a that's an easier step to take than just letting go easier step to take than just letting go easier step to take than just letting go of control because you probably don't of control because you probably don't of control because you probably don't know how to do that uh without first know how to do that uh without first know how to do that uh without first outsourcing it. Um and so you're going outsourcing it. Um and so you're going outsourcing it. Um and so you're going to get comfortable with outsourcing at to get comfortable with outsourcing at to get comfortable with outsourcing at first and then after that then you'll first and then after that then you'll first and then after that then you'll find a little bit of freedom in that and find a little bit of freedom in that and find a little bit of freedom in that and then that'll kind of change then that'll kind of change then that'll kind of change >> the approach or or why you're doing what >> the approach or or why you're doing what >> the approach or or why you're doing what you do. you do. you do. >> Remind me the the difference of what >> Remind me the the difference of what >> Remind me the the difference of what you're doing now versus what you were in you're doing now versus what you were in you're doing now versus what you were in back in April 2020. I just saw the the back in April 2020. I just saw the the back in April 2020. I just saw the the pictures the difference of the three pictures the difference of the three pictures the difference of the three stages. Um, so I think back then I was stages. Um, so I think back then I was stages. Um, so I think back then I was running running running >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I think it was like Maps Muscle Mommy or >> I think it was like Maps Muscle Mommy or >> I think it was like Maps Muscle Mommy or something like like I've always stuck something like like I've always stuck something like like I've always stuck with your guys' programming. So I did I with your guys' programming. So I did I with your guys' programming. So I did I had a coach for a bit who did like had a coach for a bit who did like had a coach for a bit who did like similar programming cuz they they did similar programming cuz they they did similar programming cuz they they did listen to your show. So similar listen to your show. So similar listen to your show. So similar programming, but I just like programming, but I just like programming, but I just like >> Yeah. I I that's why I was like I don't >> Yeah. I I that's why I was like I don't >> Yeah. I I that's why I was like I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Like know what I'm doing wrong. Like know what I'm doing wrong. Like obviously there's the sector of the obviously there's the sector of the obviously there's the sector of the control issues and that stuff, but I was control issues and that stuff, but I was control issues and that stuff, but I was like I'm I had a coach who listened to like I'm I had a coach who listened to like I'm I had a coach who listened to you guys, so I know that they were you guys, so I know that they were you guys, so I know that they were >> not leading me in the wrong direction. >> not leading me in the wrong direction. >> not leading me in the wrong direction. Um, Um, Um, >> but no, I'm I'm asking cuz I think you >> but no, I'm I'm asking cuz I think you >> but no, I'm I'm asking cuz I think you look way healthier and better right now look way healthier and better right now look way healthier and better right now than you did back in April. That's the than you did back in April. That's the than you did back in April. That's the difference I'm trying to get to is like, difference I'm trying to get to is like, difference I'm trying to get to is like, >> are you eating more now? >> are you eating more now? >> are you eating more now? >> Yeah. Are you eating more calories now >> Yeah. Are you eating more calories now >> Yeah. Are you eating more calories now or what are you doing different? or what are you doing different? or what are you doing different? No. Um, No. Um, No. Um, >> do you see yourself as better now? Cuz I >> do you see yourself as better now? Cuz I >> do you see yourself as better now? Cuz I think you look way better and healthier. think you look way better and healthier. think you look way better and healthier. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I feel like I just look the same. >> Oh, I feel like I just look the same. >> Oh, I feel like I just look the same. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> Oh, no. >> Throughout. >> Throughout. >> Throughout. >> Oh, no. No. No. >> Oh, no. No. No. >> Oh, no. No. No. >> Everything. >> Everything. >> Everything. >> Yeah. Zoom it for the guy so they can >> Yeah. Zoom it for the guy so they can >> Yeah. Zoom it for the guy so they can see. Yeah. Go to the top. That's That's see. Yeah. Go to the top. That's That's see. Yeah. Go to the top. That's That's her then. Now she'll go to the top. her then. Now she'll go to the top. her then. Now she'll go to the top. >> Go to the top. >> Go to the top. >> Go to the top. >> Yeah. You're fit and healthy, hun. Go to >> Yeah. You're fit and healthy, hun. Go to >> Yeah. You're fit and healthy, hun. Go to the Go to the top. the Go to the top. the Go to the top. >> I'm trying to, Adam. >> I'm trying to, Adam. >> I'm trying to, Adam. >> Yeah. You don't uh control this. >> Yeah. You don't uh control this. >> Yeah. You don't uh control this. >> Yeah. I see you're Okay. So So let me >> Yeah. I see you're Okay. So So let me >> Yeah. I see you're Okay. So So let me give you some tips on what might help give you some tips on what might help give you some tips on what might help with some of this. Okay. with some of this. Okay. with some of this. Okay. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Um I think it's a good idea to have some >> Um I think it's a good idea to have some >> Um I think it's a good idea to have some structured time where you're sitting and structured time where you're sitting and structured time where you're sitting and doing nothing doing nothing doing nothing and it's probably going to be really and it's probably going to be really and it's probably going to be really scary for you. So scary for you. So scary for you. So >> it's sorry something to add to the like >> it's sorry something to add to the like >> it's sorry something to add to the like sitting and not doing anything. I don't sitting and not doing anything. I don't sitting and not doing anything. I don't know if this is related but if I sit for know if this is related but if I sit for know if this is related but if I sit for too long my back like I'll get severe too long my back like I'll get severe too long my back like I'll get severe pain or like pain or like pain or like >> being still I get severe pain. >> being still I get severe pain. >> being still I get severe pain. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably not >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably not >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably not you're probably uh sitting anxious in an you're probably uh sitting anxious in an you're probably uh sitting anxious in an anxious way or not breathing uh fully. anxious way or not breathing uh fully. anxious way or not breathing uh fully. >> So, do you know what a full >> So, do you know what a full >> So, do you know what a full diaphragmatic breath feels like? diaphragmatic breath feels like? diaphragmatic breath feels like? >> Uh yeah, I've been like working on >> Uh yeah, I've been like working on >> Uh yeah, I've been like working on >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> breathing with my diaphragm and whatnot. >> breathing with my diaphragm and whatnot. >> breathing with my diaphragm and whatnot. >> So, let's So, that might be a good place >> So, let's So, that might be a good place >> So, let's So, that might be a good place to start. to start. to start. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you could set your timer on your >> So, you could set your timer on your >> So, you could set your timer on your phone, phone, phone, >> put an alarm for 10 minutes, and then >> put an alarm for 10 minutes, and then >> put an alarm for 10 minutes, and then sit for 10 minutes and just breathe into sit for 10 minutes and just breathe into sit for 10 minutes and just breathe into your belly. where you feel your belly your belly. where you feel your belly your belly. where you feel your belly rise before your chest. Full rise before your chest. Full rise before your chest. Full diaphragmatic breathing while you're diaphragmatic breathing while you're diaphragmatic breathing while you're sitting. So, uh, what can happen for sitting. So, uh, what can happen for sitting. So, uh, what can happen for some people, it's not it's not common, some people, it's not it's not common, some people, it's not it's not common, but people who are like, I don't like to but people who are like, I don't like to but people who are like, I don't like to sit still, is when they're sitting, sit still, is when they're sitting, sit still, is when they're sitting, they're tense. they're tense. they're tense. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And they're chest breathing. >> And they're chest breathing. >> And they're chest breathing. >> Restrictive. >> Restrictive. >> Restrictive. >> Mhm. And so then they start to feel back >> Mhm. And so then they start to feel back >> Mhm. And so then they start to feel back pain pain pain >> uh as a result of it. >> uh as a result of it. >> uh as a result of it. >> So, uh, that might be a good practice >> So, uh, that might be a good practice >> So, uh, that might be a good practice for you to sit for 10 minutes or 5 for you to sit for 10 minutes or 5 for you to sit for 10 minutes or 5 minutes if 10 minutes is too long cuz minutes if 10 minutes is too long cuz minutes if 10 minutes is too long cuz that's a long time for someone who that's a long time for someone who that's a long time for someone who doesn't like to sit. I'm going to tell doesn't like to sit. I'm going to tell doesn't like to sit. I'm going to tell you right now, 10 minutes of you right now, 10 minutes of you right now, 10 minutes of diaphragmatic breathing, diaphragmatic breathing, diaphragmatic breathing, >> you're going to want to pull your hair >> you're going to want to pull your hair >> you're going to want to pull your hair out. So, you you sit there and you out. So, you you sit there and you out. So, you you sit there and you diaphragmatically breathe. And then the diaphragmatically breathe. And then the diaphragmatically breathe. And then the next step would be next step would be next step would be >> finding things that you enjoy uh that >> finding things that you enjoy uh that >> finding things that you enjoy uh that you can do uh while you're sitting down you can do uh while you're sitting down you can do uh while you're sitting down that don't relate to a specific goal that don't relate to a specific goal that don't relate to a specific goal that you have. Cuz sometimes people be that you have. Cuz sometimes people be that you have. Cuz sometimes people be like, "Oh, cool. I'm going to sit down like, "Oh, cool. I'm going to sit down like, "Oh, cool. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to like map out my diet or and I'm going to like map out my diet or and I'm going to like map out my diet or I'm going to like do this class that I I'm going to like do this class that I I'm going to like do this class that I need to do or I'm going to like better need to do or I'm going to like better need to do or I'm going to like better myself with this book that's going to myself with this book that's going to myself with this book that's going to make me so smart." So, you want to think make me so smart." So, you want to think make me so smart." So, you want to think of something that that's like leisure of something that that's like leisure of something that that's like leisure that you could do while sitting. that you could do while sitting. that you could do while sitting. >> Have you ever tried paint puzzle legs? >> Have you ever tried paint puzzle legs? >> Have you ever tried paint puzzle legs? >> I was going to say I do uh I do >> I was going to say I do uh I do >> I was going to say I do uh I do painting. painting. painting. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um I still get the pain though and I'll >> Um I still get the pain though and I'll >> Um I still get the pain though and I'll have to take breaks. I don't know if it have to take breaks. I don't know if it have to take breaks. I don't know if it has to do with the hypermobility. Like I has to do with the hypermobility. Like I has to do with the hypermobility. Like I also know my hip flexors. Like I I've also know my hip flexors. Like I I've also know my hip flexors. Like I I've seen various PT people and they've had seen various PT people and they've had seen various PT people and they've had me do the Thomas test which I'm sure me do the Thomas test which I'm sure me do the Thomas test which I'm sure you're familiar with like laying back you're familiar with like laying back you're familiar with like laying back and my my leg is literally like this. and my my leg is literally like this. and my my leg is literally like this. >> How do you >> How do you >> How do you >> How are you painting? How are you >> How are you painting? How are you >> How are you painting? How are you sitting? sitting? sitting? >> Um I tend to like sit on the floor or >> Um I tend to like sit on the floor or >> Um I tend to like sit on the floor or I'll sit in a chair with my legs up. I'll sit in a chair with my legs up. I'll sit in a chair with my legs up. >> Okay. All right. So So Okay. So, hyper >> Okay. All right. So So Okay. So, hyper >> Okay. All right. So So Okay. So, hyper mobile people will sit in some of the mobile people will sit in some of the mobile people will sit in some of the most interesting contorted positions most interesting contorted positions most interesting contorted positions typically. typically. typically. >> Yeah. So, you know what you're going to >> Yeah. So, you know what you're going to >> Yeah. So, you know what you're going to do? You're going to sit in a regular do? You're going to sit in a regular do? You're going to sit in a regular chair. chair. chair. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> yeah. Just a regular old chair. >> yeah. Just a regular old chair. >> yeah. Just a regular old chair. >> Back support. >> Back support. >> Back support. >> Yeah. You don't want to resting into it. >> Yeah. You don't want to resting into it. >> Yeah. You don't want to resting into it. >> Mhm. You don't want to rest in end >> Mhm. You don't want to rest in end >> Mhm. You don't want to rest in end ranges of motion because of your hyper ranges of motion because of your hyper ranges of motion because of your hyper mobility. mobility. mobility. >> So, you want to sit like an old guy >> So, you want to sit like an old guy >> So, you want to sit like an old guy >> in a chair >> in a chair >> in a chair >> and rest. >> and rest. >> and rest. >> Yeah. And then just paint. Yeah. >> Yeah. And then just paint. Yeah. >> Yeah. And then just paint. Yeah. >> And and and do the diaphragmatic >> And and and do the diaphragmatic >> And and and do the diaphragmatic breathing like that. That'll help. breathing like that. That'll help. breathing like that. That'll help. Okay. Yeah, I'll try. I I've been doing Okay. Yeah, I'll try. I I've been doing Okay. Yeah, I'll try. I I've been doing some of that, I guess, just like not some of that, I guess, just like not some of that, I guess, just like not long enough. But yeah, I don't know. I I long enough. But yeah, I don't know. I I long enough. But yeah, I don't know. I I You say I probably look healthier in the You say I probably look healthier in the You say I probably look healthier in the photos. I'm just like I feel like I photos. I'm just like I feel like I photos. I'm just like I feel like I haven't put on any muscle or um haven't put on any muscle or um haven't put on any muscle or um >> You look like you did. >> You look like you did. >> You look like you did. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Done anything. >> Done anything. >> Done anything. >> You You look You look healthier. >> You You look You look healthier. >> You You look You look healthier. >> You've got good muscle on your body, >> You've got good muscle on your body, >> You've got good muscle on your body, hun. hun. hun. >> Your your top picture looks the >> Your your top picture looks the >> Your your top picture looks the healthiest of all the things. I I I healthiest of all the things. I I I healthiest of all the things. I I I think I think some of the stuff that think I think some of the stuff that think I think some of the stuff that you're feeling is the internal high you're feeling is the internal high you're feeling is the internal high level of anxiety level of anxiety level of anxiety >> that's kind of below the surface >> that's kind of below the surface >> that's kind of below the surface >> and that is a stress. That is a stress >> and that is a stress. That is a stress >> and that is a stress. That is a stress on the body. Again, if I looked at all on the body. Again, if I looked at all on the body. Again, if I looked at all the stuff you're doing on paper, I'm the stuff you're doing on paper, I'm the stuff you're doing on paper, I'm like, man, she's doing all the right like, man, she's doing all the right like, man, she's doing all the right stuff. stuff. stuff. >> It's distorting your perception for >> It's distorting your perception for >> It's distorting your perception for sure. sure. sure. >> But what's underneath it? >> But what's underneath it? >> But what's underneath it? >> Uh I heard this example given before >> Uh I heard this example given before >> Uh I heard this example given before like a swan like a swan on water looks like a swan like a swan on water looks like a swan like a swan on water looks like they're just cruising real nice, like they're just cruising real nice, like they're just cruising real nice, but if you look under the water, their but if you look under the water, their but if you look under the water, their feet are like going crazy. Yeah. So if feet are like going crazy. Yeah. So if feet are like going crazy. Yeah. So if if you re if that resonates with you uh if you re if that resonates with you uh if you re if that resonates with you uh it's what's underneath uh all the it's what's underneath uh all the it's what's underneath uh all the actions and so actions and so actions and so >> practicing like letting go breathing >> practicing like letting go breathing >> practicing like letting go breathing like all the uncomfortable stuff for you like all the uncomfortable stuff for you like all the uncomfortable stuff for you sitting in a normal chair and painting sitting in a normal chair and painting sitting in a normal chair and painting uh that you know those will be good uh that you know those will be good uh that you know those will be good practices for you. Um and outsourcing is practices for you. Um and outsourcing is practices for you. Um and outsourcing is always a good idea uh to do with a coach always a good idea uh to do with a coach always a good idea uh to do with a coach >> who can kind of move you through this >> who can kind of move you through this >> who can kind of move you through this whole process. But your calories are whole process. But your calories are whole process. But your calories are good, your activities. I mean, you're good, your activities. I mean, you're good, your activities. I mean, you're only doing MAPS uh our MAPS program and only doing MAPS uh our MAPS program and only doing MAPS uh our MAPS program and walking. You're not doing any other walking. You're not doing any other walking. You're not doing any other exercise. exercise. exercise. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. Yeah. >> I mean, that's great. >> I mean, that's great. >> I mean, that's great. >> Yeah. And 3,000 calories. You're doing >> Yeah. And 3,000 calories. You're doing >> Yeah. And 3,000 calories. You're doing really good on all th all those things. really good on all th all those things. really good on all th all those things. It just sounds like you need more things It just sounds like you need more things It just sounds like you need more things that really relax you that you like to that really relax you that you like to that really relax you that you like to do. And so, I don't know if you've do. And so, I don't know if you've do. And so, I don't know if you've pursued pursued pursued >> different things other than just paint >> different things other than just paint >> different things other than just paint because I think painting would be great. because I think painting would be great. because I think painting would be great. I think painting is one a great example I think painting is one a great example I think painting is one a great example of that, you know, and puzzling. Um, I of that, you know, and puzzling. Um, I of that, you know, and puzzling. Um, I get it from driving. Like, I mean, get it from driving. Like, I mean, get it from driving. Like, I mean, things that where you can just be kind things that where you can just be kind things that where you can just be kind of focused on the thing and everything, of focused on the thing and everything, of focused on the thing and everything, all the other noise kind of goes away all the other noise kind of goes away all the other noise kind of goes away and you're just into it. and you're just into it. and you're just into it. >> Do you have a spiritual practice or do >> Do you have a spiritual practice or do >> Do you have a spiritual practice or do you meditate? you meditate? you meditate? >> Um, yeah. I'm Catholic. So, >> Um, yeah. I'm Catholic. So, >> Um, yeah. I'm Catholic. So, >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, sit sit and pray. >> Oh, sit sit and pray. >> Oh, sit sit and pray. >> Sit and pray. Nothing gets you out of >> Sit and pray. Nothing gets you out of >> Sit and pray. Nothing gets you out of your head better than doing that. your head better than doing that. your head better than doing that. >> Yeah. the the sign that I think like I >> Yeah. the the sign that I think like I >> Yeah. the the sign that I think like I mean I tend to pray on my walks but I mean I tend to pray on my walks but I mean I tend to pray on my walks but I think the sign that I need to do it is think the sign that I need to do it is think the sign that I need to do it is that you saying like oh sit down for a that you saying like oh sit down for a that you saying like oh sit down for a while like car drives give me anxiety while like car drives give me anxiety while like car drives give me anxiety because I have to sit for a while and because I have to sit for a while and because I have to sit for a while and like in the back of my head is like like in the back of my head is like like in the back of my head is like >> oh this is so unhealthy cuz you're >> oh this is so unhealthy cuz you're >> oh this is so unhealthy cuz you're sitting and you're sedentary. sitting and you're sedentary. sitting and you're sedentary. >> No >> No >> No >> so >> so >> so >> no no no one of the hallmarks of anxiety >> no no no one of the hallmarks of anxiety >> no no no one of the hallmarks of anxiety is is is >> selffocus. >> selffocus. >> selffocus. So one of the best just the data shows So one of the best just the data shows So one of the best just the data shows this one of the best ways to have uh to this one of the best ways to have uh to this one of the best ways to have uh to combat that combat that combat that >> is a spiritual practice because the >> is a spiritual practice because the >> is a spiritual practice because the focus is not on you focus is not on you focus is not on you >> or find a way to go serve others. >> or find a way to go serve others. >> or find a way to go serve others. >> Yeah. Serve others. >> Yeah. Serve others. >> Yeah. Serve others. >> Serving others is I mean that's same >> Serving others is I mean that's same >> Serving others is I mean that's same thing. thing. thing. >> Volunteer and stuff like that. Yeah. You >> Volunteer and stuff like that. Yeah. You >> Volunteer and stuff like that. Yeah. You just need something that gets you out of just need something that gets you out of just need something that gets you out of your own head that of self focused your own head that of self focused your own head that of self focused >> you know. >> you know. >> you know. >> So keep keep pursuing practice like >> So keep keep pursuing practice like >> So keep keep pursuing practice like that. I love the painting just we don't that. I love the painting just we don't that. I love the painting just we don't want to do it in a crazy sit. want to do it in a crazy sit. want to do it in a crazy sit. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're doing >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're doing >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're doing everything like really well, everything like really well, everything like really well, >> but yeah, you look super healthy. >> but yeah, you look super healthy. >> but yeah, you look super healthy. >> Yeah, you're following the right >> Yeah, you're following the right >> Yeah, you're following the right instructions. You're doing the right instructions. You're doing the right instructions. You're doing the right actions. It's just what's underneath it. actions. It's just what's underneath it. actions. It's just what's underneath it. >> Um, yeah. And if you if you want to work >> Um, yeah. And if you if you want to work >> Um, yeah. And if you if you want to work with a coach, we have great ones. I with a coach, we have great ones. I with a coach, we have great ones. I could have someone reach out to you. could have someone reach out to you. could have someone reach out to you. >> Yeah. It said you talked to you talked >> Yeah. It said you talked to you talked >> Yeah. It said you talked to you talked to Karen before, right? to Karen before, right? to Karen before, right? >> Yeah. I talked to Karen. She is like so >> Yeah. I talked to Karen. She is like so >> Yeah. I talked to Karen. She is like so amazing. She's so nice. Um, yeah, I amazing. She's so nice. Um, yeah, I amazing. She's so nice. Um, yeah, I think I'd be open to that. I mean, think I'd be open to that. I mean, think I'd be open to that. I mean, obviously it would depend on the price obviously it would depend on the price obviously it would depend on the price cuz like with the lime treatments, it's cuz like with the lime treatments, it's cuz like with the lime treatments, it's gotten kind of expensive, but um yeah, I gotten kind of expensive, but um yeah, I gotten kind of expensive, but um yeah, I I just want peace, honestly. Like I just want peace, honestly. Like I just want peace, honestly. Like obviously I'm like I want a butt cuz I obviously I'm like I want a butt cuz I obviously I'm like I want a butt cuz I feel like I don't have a butt and I want feel like I don't have a butt and I want feel like I don't have a butt and I want to be able to perform great because, you to be able to perform great because, you to be able to perform great because, you know, athleticism and dancing. know, athleticism and dancing. know, athleticism and dancing. >> Ameilia, you have a butt. We saw the >> Ameilia, you have a butt. We saw the >> Ameilia, you have a butt. We saw the pictures, honey. pictures, honey. pictures, honey. >> Yeah, you're doing fine. >> Yeah, you're doing fine. >> Yeah, you're doing fine. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I hope so. But at the end of the day, I >> I hope so. But at the end of the day, I >> I hope so. But at the end of the day, I just want peace. So, if what you're just want peace. So, if what you're just want peace. So, if what you're saying, you know, is gonna saying, you know, is gonna saying, you know, is gonna >> You would do really good like uh seeing >> You would do really good like uh seeing >> You would do really good like uh seeing just Karen like once a month even just just Karen like once a month even just just Karen like once a month even just to just to check in with her just to to just to check in with her just to to just to check in with her just to keep an eye on what you got going on and keep an eye on what you got going on and keep an eye on what you got going on and stuff like that. Um stuff like that. Um stuff like that. Um >> and I'll tell you just to encourage you >> and I'll tell you just to encourage you >> and I'll tell you just to encourage you at your age with what you're talking at your age with what you're talking at your age with what you're talking about. You're you're like so far ahead about. You're you're like so far ahead about. You're you're like so far ahead >> of where a lot of young ladies are. >> of where a lot of young ladies are. >> of where a lot of young ladies are. >> Uh you're doing you're you're on the >> Uh you're doing you're you're on the >> Uh you're doing you're you're on the right path. And I think the struggle is right path. And I think the struggle is right path. And I think the struggle is just recognizing that you're not on the just recognizing that you're not on the just recognizing that you're not on the right that you're like that you need to right that you're like that you need to right that you're like that you need to move in a different direction. Uh, so move in a different direction. Uh, so move in a different direction. Uh, so just to encourage you like you're you're just to encourage you like you're you're just to encourage you like you're you're doing good. This is a tough time for doing good. This is a tough time for doing good. This is a tough time for you, but you're doing really well. you, but you're doing really well. you, but you're doing really well. >> Okay. Thank you so much. That's uh >> Okay. Thank you so much. That's uh >> Okay. Thank you so much. That's uh encouraging. encouraging. encouraging. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, it's just kind of hard to get >> But yeah, it's just kind of hard to get >> But yeah, it's just kind of hard to get out of my head. I don't know if you have out of my head. I don't know if you have out of my head. I don't know if you have time for me to like semi side question. time for me to like semi side question. time for me to like semi side question. >> Yeah, go for it. Let's go. Um, I've had >> Yeah, go for it. Let's go. Um, I've had >> Yeah, go for it. Let's go. Um, I've had recent like shoulder pain under my recent like shoulder pain under my recent like shoulder pain under my scapulaish scapulaish scapulaish and it's exacerbated by holding the bar and it's exacerbated by holding the bar and it's exacerbated by holding the bar with RDL's or rowing or like any with RDL's or rowing or like any with RDL's or rowing or like any scapular movements. And I've been trying scapular movements. And I've been trying scapular movements. And I've been trying to figure out why that is. And it to figure out why that is. And it to figure out why that is. And it sometimes when I bench it'll refer to sometimes when I bench it'll refer to sometimes when I bench it'll refer to the front of my collar bone. the front of my collar bone. the front of my collar bone. >> So I >> So I >> So I >> I'm not sure what it is. I also have >> I'm not sure what it is. I also have >> I'm not sure what it is. I also have hyper mobile shoulders. Like it can hyper mobile shoulders. Like it can hyper mobile shoulders. Like it can >> pop and stuff. So, >> pop and stuff. So, >> pop and stuff. So, >> do you know how to do scapular push-ups? >> do you know how to do scapular push-ups? >> do you know how to do scapular push-ups? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh yeah, I do, but like my shoulder >> Uh yeah, I do, but like my shoulder >> Uh yeah, I do, but like my shoulder blade I don't know if you could see like blade I don't know if you could see like blade I don't know if you could see like >> Yeah, it's winging. >> Yeah, it's winging. >> Yeah, it's winging. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, do you know how to do you know how >> So, do you know how to do you know how >> So, do you know how to do you know how to flatten it? to flatten it? to flatten it? >> I try and it just keeps winging. >> I try and it just keeps winging. >> I try and it just keeps winging. >> Okay. So, practice try to practice >> Okay. So, practice try to practice >> Okay. So, practice try to practice flattening it. Uh watch bodybuilding flattening it. Uh watch bodybuilding flattening it. Uh watch bodybuilding videos on how to do a front lat spread. videos on how to do a front lat spread. videos on how to do a front lat spread. >> Okay. It's like how to do a front lat >> Okay. It's like how to do a front lat >> Okay. It's like how to do a front lat spread cuz that movement is scapula uh spread cuz that movement is scapula uh spread cuz that movement is scapula uh flattening out. flattening out. flattening out. >> And so that's what you want that's what >> And so that's what you want that's what >> And so that's what you want that's what you want to work on. you want to work on. you want to work on. >> Yeah. I'm trying to do it right now and >> Yeah. I'm trying to do it right now and >> Yeah. I'm trying to do it right now and it just keeps winging. So it just keeps winging. So it just keeps winging. So >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Practice it. You can >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Practice it. You can >> yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Practice it. You can put yourself up against the wall and put yourself up against the wall and put yourself up against the wall and relax and allow the wall to press your relax and allow the wall to press your relax and allow the wall to press your scapula into that flattened position and scapula into that flattened position and scapula into that flattened position and then see if you can tense and hold it then see if you can tense and hold it then see if you can tense and hold it there. there. there. >> Okay. I'll try that. Thank you. >> Okay. I'll try that. Thank you. >> Okay. I'll try that. Thank you. >> Yeah, you got it. You got it. No >> Yeah, you got it. You got it. No >> Yeah, you got it. You got it. No problem. Thanks for calling in again. If problem. Thanks for calling in again. If problem. Thanks for calling in again. If you want to call in again, have any you want to call in again, have any you want to call in again, have any other questions, let us know. But I other questions, let us know. But I other questions, let us know. But I think you're doing well, hun. It's uh think you're doing well, hun. It's uh think you're doing well, hun. It's uh focus on the things that get you out of focus on the things that get you out of focus on the things that get you out of the focus on yourself. So don't just the focus on yourself. So don't just the focus on yourself. So don't just say, "I'm not going to focus on myself. say, "I'm not going to focus on myself. say, "I'm not going to focus on myself. It's impossible." But what can I focus It's impossible." But what can I focus It's impossible." But what can I focus on that's outside of myself? on that's outside of myself? on that's outside of myself? >> So prayer, serving others, painting, >> So prayer, serving others, painting, >> So prayer, serving others, painting, don't sit in crazy positions. I think don't sit in crazy positions. I think don't sit in crazy positions. I think that's a great place to start. that's a great place to start. that's a great place to start. >> Okay, I'll do that. Thank you guys so >> Okay, I'll do that. Thank you guys so >> Okay, I'll do that. Thank you guys so much. And it's like I just needed the much. And it's like I just needed the much. And it's like I just needed the reinforcement from y'all cuz I look up reinforcement from y'all cuz I look up reinforcement from y'all cuz I look up to you guys so much. And it's like I to you guys so much. And it's like I to you guys so much. And it's like I don't know. I had a feeling I was doing don't know. I had a feeling I was doing don't know. I had a feeling I was doing the right stuff, but it, like I said, I the right stuff, but it, like I said, I the right stuff, but it, like I said, I just feel like I need people who are just feel like I need people who are just feel like I need people who are experienced to experienced to experienced to >> help encourage me. >> help encourage me. >> help encourage me. >> You're doing great. You're doing great. >> You're doing great. You're doing great. >> You're doing great. You're doing great. Just keep pursuing things that are other Just keep pursuing things that are other Just keep pursuing things that are other focused. Keep pursuing those types of focused. Keep pursuing those types of focused. Keep pursuing those types of things, you know? Try try different things, you know? Try try different things, you know? Try try different stuff until you till something hits that stuff until you till something hits that stuff until you till something hits that you really like. you really like. you really like. >> Mhm. I will. I'll try it. >> Mhm. I will. I'll try it. >> Mhm. I will. I'll try it. >> All right. Good to see you again. >> All right. Good to see you again. >> All right. Good to see you again. >> Good to see you. Thank you guys so much. >> Good to see you. Thank you guys so much. >> Good to see you. Thank you guys so much. >> All right. Sweetheart, >> All right. Sweetheart, >> All right. Sweetheart, >> that's tough. Uh, but it's great. 3,000 >> that's tough. Uh, but it's great. 3,000 >> that's tough. Uh, but it's great. 3,000 calories. Like she's doing all the right calories. Like she's doing all the right calories. Like she's doing all the right stuff. stuff. stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all her mental chatter. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all her mental chatter. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's all her mental chatter. >> Totally, bro. She's like super anxious >> Totally, bro. She's like super anxious >> Totally, bro. She's like super anxious about it. about it. about it. >> And uh and then I'm glad I asked her how >> And uh and then I'm glad I asked her how >> And uh and then I'm glad I asked her how she sits because uh I've had a couple she sits because uh I've had a couple she sits because uh I've had a couple clients with hyper mobility. clients with hyper mobility. clients with hyper mobility. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they will sit in what would what >> And they will sit in what would what >> And they will sit in what would what looks like a crazy stretch. looks like a crazy stretch. looks like a crazy stretch. >> I know. I I laugh cuz I've seen the same >> I know. I I laugh cuz I've seen the same >> I know. I I laugh cuz I've seen the same thing. I'm like, what are you doing? thing. I'm like, what are you doing? thing. I'm like, what are you doing? >> Uh but yeah, it's just what it's a weird >> Uh but yeah, it's just what it's a weird >> Uh but yeah, it's just what it's a weird thing. thing. thing. >> She just needs to keep looking for those >> She just needs to keep looking for those >> She just needs to keep looking for those things, right? There's there's got to be things, right? There's there's got to be things, right? There's there's got to be something else out there. Uh, like I something else out there. Uh, like I something else out there. Uh, like I said, like the puzzling, the Lego thing, said, like the puzzling, the Lego thing, said, like the puzzling, the Lego thing, the getting into something that where the getting into something that where the getting into something that where just everything else fades away and just everything else fades away and just everything else fades away and you're hyper into you're hyper into you're hyper into >> you're not on not thinking of yourself. >> you're not on not thinking of yourself. >> you're not on not thinking of yourself. >> Yeah. Yeah. Our next caller is Taylor >> Yeah. Yeah. Our next caller is Taylor >> Yeah. Yeah. Our next caller is Taylor from Ohio. from Ohio. from Ohio. >> Hi, Taylor. >> Hi, Taylor. >> Hi, Taylor. >> Taylor. >> Taylor. >> Taylor. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Hello. >> Hey guys. Oh my gosh, this is kind of >> Hey guys. Oh my gosh, this is kind of >> Hey guys. Oh my gosh, this is kind of surreal. Um, just to keep it simple, surreal. Um, just to keep it simple, surreal. Um, just to keep it simple, I'll go ahead and read right off my I'll go ahead and read right off my I'll go ahead and read right off my email. email. email. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Hey guys, I've been an avid listener for >> Hey guys, I've been an avid listener for >> Hey guys, I've been an avid listener for six years. I listen to your podcast six years. I listen to your podcast six years. I listen to your podcast every chance I get during my lifts, all every chance I get during my lifts, all every chance I get during my lifts, all my runs, any free car audio time I get my runs, any free car audio time I get my runs, any free car audio time I get between song requests for my kids. I get between song requests for my kids. I get between song requests for my kids. I get so much value from your content and so much value from your content and so much value from your content and frequently send episodes to my family, frequently send episodes to my family, frequently send episodes to my family, friends, and clients. You've changed the friends, and clients. You've changed the friends, and clients. You've changed the game for me as a fitness professional, a game for me as a fitness professional, a game for me as a fitness professional, a mom in my own fitness journey. So, thank mom in my own fitness journey. So, thank mom in my own fitness journey. So, thank you. I'm a 34year-old mom of three you. I'm a 34year-old mom of three you. I'm a 34year-old mom of three little boys, six and under. I've been little boys, six and under. I've been little boys, six and under. I've been strength training for years and run MAPS strength training for years and run MAPS strength training for years and run MAPS programs on and off between pregnancies programs on and off between pregnancies programs on and off between pregnancies and now after. Recently, I started and now after. Recently, I started and now after. Recently, I started running more consistently between two to running more consistently between two to running more consistently between two to three times per week, and I realized how three times per week, and I realized how three times per week, and I realized how much I love it, mostly from the mental much I love it, mostly from the mental much I love it, mostly from the mental health side of things. I'm currently health side of things. I'm currently health side of things. I'm currently training for a half marathon in April. I training for a half marathon in April. I training for a half marathon in April. I also still strength train two to three also still strength train two to three also still strength train two to three times a week, and currently running times a week, and currently running times a week, and currently running anabolic. My runs consist of one easy anabolic. My runs consist of one easy anabolic. My runs consist of one easy run about two three to four miles, one run about two three to four miles, one run about two three to four miles, one tempo run, and one long run for some tempo run, and one long run for some tempo run, and one long run for some mileage building. Uh, I eat around 23 to mileage building. Uh, I eat around 23 to mileage building. Uh, I eat around 23 to 24,400 calories. I hit my protein goal 24,400 calories. I hit my protein goal 24,400 calories. I hit my protein goal of anywhere from 150 to 170 daily. I of anywhere from 150 to 170 daily. I of anywhere from 150 to 170 daily. I feel relatively recovered and no feel relatively recovered and no feel relatively recovered and no overtraining symptoms, but I don't want overtraining symptoms, but I don't want overtraining symptoms, but I don't want to end up in that place long term. My to end up in that place long term. My to end up in that place long term. My question is about balancing endurance question is about balancing endurance question is about balancing endurance training with maintaining muscle and training with maintaining muscle and training with maintaining muscle and strength. Strength training has always strength. Strength training has always strength. Strength training has always been a big part of my life, and I don't been a big part of my life, and I don't been a big part of my life, and I don't want to lose muscle mass as I start want to lose muscle mass as I start want to lose muscle mass as I start pursuing endurance goals. Uh, I'd really pursuing endurance goals. Uh, I'd really pursuing endurance goals. Uh, I'd really love to train for one, maybe two half love to train for one, maybe two half love to train for one, maybe two half marathons per year, one in the spring, marathons per year, one in the spring, marathons per year, one in the spring, one in the fall. I'm a former division one in the fall. I'm a former division one in the fall. I'm a former division one athlete, and I really thrive and one athlete, and I really thrive and one athlete, and I really thrive and enjoy when I have a performance goal to enjoy when I have a performance goal to enjoy when I have a performance goal to chase. It helps me feel like myself, chase. It helps me feel like myself, chase. It helps me feel like myself, especially in the stage of life as a mom especially in the stage of life as a mom especially in the stage of life as a mom with little boys. Um, and when I can with little boys. Um, and when I can with little boys. Um, and when I can prioritize my own health and fitness, I prioritize my own health and fitness, I prioritize my own health and fitness, I feel like my cup is full to pour into feel like my cup is full to pour into feel like my cup is full to pour into them and be a better mom, wife, and them and be a better mom, wife, and them and be a better mom, wife, and friend. Would love your advice. Um, for friend. Would love your advice. Um, for friend. Would love your advice. Um, for someone like me who wants to pursue someone like me who wants to pursue someone like me who wants to pursue endurance goals while still prioritizing endurance goals while still prioritizing endurance goals while still prioritizing strength, muscle, and long-term health. strength, muscle, and long-term health. strength, muscle, and long-term health. Uh, would you suggest periodizing the Uh, would you suggest periodizing the Uh, would you suggest periodizing the training, like only running um, during a training, like only running um, during a training, like only running um, during a true running training block pre-race and true running training block pre-race and true running training block pre-race and then solely focusing on strength then solely focusing on strength then solely focusing on strength training outside of that? And are there training outside of that? And are there training outside of that? And are there any programs you'd recommend that would any programs you'd recommend that would any programs you'd recommend that would balance my load and goals? balance my load and goals? balance my load and goals? >> Yeah, good. So, okay. So, um, so there's >> Yeah, good. So, okay. So, um, so there's >> Yeah, good. So, okay. So, um, so there's a couple ways you could approach this. a couple ways you could approach this. a couple ways you could approach this. By the way, I think your calories are By the way, I think your calories are By the way, I think your calories are probably a little low. probably a little low. probably a little low. >> I was just going to say that's the only >> I was just going to say that's the only >> I was just going to say that's the only thing I'd really change is that and thing I'd really change is that and thing I'd really change is that and maybe scaling back one day of training maybe scaling back one day of training maybe scaling back one day of training maybe cuz there the three runs are not maybe cuz there the three runs are not maybe cuz there the three runs are not even an hour, right? even an hour, right? even an hour, right? >> Yeah. I mean, well, my long runs as >> Yeah. I mean, well, my long runs as >> Yeah. I mean, well, my long runs as they've gotten longer, as I get closer they've gotten longer, as I get closer they've gotten longer, as I get closer to race day, they're can be up to two. to race day, they're can be up to two. to race day, they're can be up to two. >> Okay. So, but the other two What about >> Okay. So, but the other two What about >> Okay. So, but the other two What about the other two runs though? The other two the other two runs though? The other two the other two runs though? The other two run run run >> they're under an hour. >> they're under an hour. >> they're under an hour. >> Okay. Yes. >> Okay. Yes. >> Okay. Yes. >> One's easy and one's like some interval >> One's easy and one's like some interval >> One's easy and one's like some interval training, some speed work. training, some speed work. training, some speed work. >> Yeah. So, it's kind of mild. Yeah. And >> Yeah. So, it's kind of mild. Yeah. And >> Yeah. So, it's kind of mild. Yeah. And you're training for a half marathon you're training for a half marathon you're training for a half marathon right now, right? right now, right? right now, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, your calories are probably a >> Okay. So, your calories are probably a >> Okay. So, your calories are probably a little low uh for the kind of training little low uh for the kind of training little low uh for the kind of training that you're doing. So, I would increase that you're doing. So, I would increase that you're doing. So, I would increase those by about 300 those by about 300 those by about 300 >> and you should notice some performance >> and you should notice some performance >> and you should notice some performance improvements. improvements. improvements. >> Long term. Uh there's a couple ways you >> Long term. Uh there's a couple ways you >> Long term. Uh there's a couple ways you could approach this because it sounds could approach this because it sounds could approach this because it sounds like you love both. Sounds like you love like you love both. Sounds like you love like you love both. Sounds like you love the strength training, but you also love the strength training, but you also love the strength training, but you also love running. Uh which is great. So, we want running. Uh which is great. So, we want running. Uh which is great. So, we want there's a couple ways we could do this. there's a couple ways we could do this. there's a couple ways we could do this. uh one kind of general split uh for uh one kind of general split uh for uh one kind of general split uh for somebody especially like yourself somebody especially like yourself somebody especially like yourself athlete athletic past fit healthy athlete athletic past fit healthy athlete athletic past fit healthy probably you know obviously you got some probably you know obviously you got some probably you know obviously you got some good athletic genetics you have four good athletic genetics you have four good athletic genetics you have four days in the week that you can work out days in the week that you can work out days in the week that you can work out and you can use those for strength and you can use those for strength and you can use those for strength training or running it's up to you how training or running it's up to you how training or running it's up to you how you split them so that's one approach so you split them so that's one approach so you split them so that's one approach so one you could do one day of strength one you could do one day of strength one you could do one day of strength training three days of running three training three days of running three training three days of running three days of strength training one day of days of strength training one day of days of strength training one day of running or two and two totally up to you running or two and two totally up to you running or two and two totally up to you but what you can't do is go five six but what you can't do is go five six but what you can't do is go five six days a week uh you know type of deal days a week uh you know type of deal days a week uh you know type of deal most people just long term that's just most people just long term that's just most people just long term that's just too much, especially if you have a life too much, especially if you have a life too much, especially if you have a life outside of working out. The second outside of working out. The second outside of working out. The second option is to strength train one week and option is to strength train one week and option is to strength train one week and then do endurance training the other then do endurance training the other then do endurance training the other week. week. week. >> I've heard you're you're doing that >> I've heard you're you're doing that >> I've heard you're you're doing that right now, aren't you? right now, aren't you? right now, aren't you? >> To an to an extent. Now, it's not >> To an to an extent. Now, it's not >> To an to an extent. Now, it's not >> I don't know if I'd call his uh cardio >> I don't know if I'd call his uh cardio >> I don't know if I'd call his uh cardio uh endurance training yet. uh endurance training yet. uh endurance training yet. >> Mine is more >> Mine is more >> Mine is more >> He made the three today on the >> He made the three today on the >> He made the three today on the treadmill. treadmill. treadmill. >> Mine Mine is less mine is less about >> Mine Mine is less mine is less about >> Mine Mine is less mine is less about athletic performance and more something athletic performance and more something athletic performance and more something else. That being said, when you look at else. That being said, when you look at else. That being said, when you look at the data around athletic performance, uh the data around athletic performance, uh the data around athletic performance, uh it seems to be a great approach and for it seems to be a great approach and for it seems to be a great approach and for some people, I can see why they would some people, I can see why they would some people, I can see why they would prefer that because like cool, this week prefer that because like cool, this week prefer that because like cool, this week I'm focusing on strength training, I'm focusing on strength training, I'm focusing on strength training, >> next week I'm focusing on endurance and >> next week I'm focusing on endurance and >> next week I'm focusing on endurance and it makes it keeps it more fun it makes it keeps it more fun it makes it keeps it more fun >> psychologically too. It's it's yeah >> psychologically too. It's it's yeah >> psychologically too. It's it's yeah beneficial that regard. beneficial that regard. beneficial that regard. >> Yeah. So those would be your two general >> Yeah. So those would be your two general >> Yeah. So those would be your two general approaches. Now you can mess that up in approaches. Now you can mess that up in approaches. Now you can mess that up in between, right? You can do too much between, right? You can do too much between, right? You can do too much intensity on all of them or whatever. Uh intensity on all of them or whatever. Uh intensity on all of them or whatever. Uh but generally speaking, that would be a but generally speaking, that would be a but generally speaking, that would be a really nice kind of long-term approach. really nice kind of long-term approach. really nice kind of long-term approach. And then if you're approaching a contest And then if you're approaching a contest And then if you're approaching a contest like a marathon or half marathon, then like a marathon or half marathon, then like a marathon or half marathon, then you change your training obviously to you change your training obviously to you change your training obviously to move more towards endurance and a more move more towards endurance and a more move more towards endurance and a more and away from strength training. and away from strength training. and away from strength training. >> I really like his first uh suggestion >> I really like his first uh suggestion >> I really like his first uh suggestion which is like looking at your week is which is like looking at your week is which is like looking at your week is like you've got four days of training. like you've got four days of training. like you've got four days of training. >> You know, when you're in run mode and >> You know, when you're in run mode and >> You know, when you're in run mode and you're really getting close to, you you're really getting close to, you you're really getting close to, you know, your your half marathon or know, your your half marathon or know, your your half marathon or whatever, you're scaling that mostly whatever, you're scaling that mostly whatever, you're scaling that mostly running and you're probably only weight running and you're probably only weight running and you're probably only weight training one day a week. When you're training one day a week. When you're training one day a week. When you're somewhere in the middle of that training somewhere in the middle of that training somewhere in the middle of that training block, you're you're probably split down block, you're you're probably split down block, you're you're probably split down the middle. When you're in the off the middle. When you're in the off the middle. When you're in the off season of running and you can pick up season of running and you can pick up season of running and you can pick up more higher volume of training, then more higher volume of training, then more higher volume of training, then you're maybe lifting weights three times you're maybe lifting weights three times you're maybe lifting weights three times a week and you only have a leisurely one a week and you only have a leisurely one a week and you only have a leisurely one run one a week. And I think toggling run one a week. And I think toggling run one a week. And I think toggling back and forth using your experience and back and forth using your experience and back and forth using your experience and how well you probably know kind of your how well you probably know kind of your how well you probably know kind of your body and training that you that's kind body and training that you that's kind body and training that you that's kind of your your boundaries is four days a of your your boundaries is four days a of your your boundaries is four days a week of this type of training and you week of this type of training and you week of this type of training and you use it according to what's more use it according to what's more use it according to what's more important because you're getting ready important because you're getting ready important because you're getting ready for a run and so hey you need more for a run and so hey you need more for a run and so hey you need more running then drop. Don't be afraid. I running then drop. Don't be afraid. I running then drop. Don't be afraid. I think that the biggest thing with think that the biggest thing with think that the biggest thing with trainers and athletic people have been trainers and athletic people have been trainers and athletic people have been doing this for a long time is this fear doing this for a long time is this fear doing this for a long time is this fear that if you go down to this one day of that if you go down to this one day of that if you go down to this one day of strength training that you're going to strength training that you're going to strength training that you're going to lose all these muscle gains. You won't. lose all these muscle gains. You won't. lose all these muscle gains. You won't. In fact, you're more likely to lose In fact, you're more likely to lose In fact, you're more likely to lose those muscle gains if you try and do all those muscle gains if you try and do all those muscle gains if you try and do all that running and and also do two or that running and and also do two or that running and and also do two or three days of strength training because three days of strength training because three days of strength training because then that's just way too much. You're then that's just way too much. You're then that's just way too much. You're going to be constantly in this recovery going to be constantly in this recovery going to be constantly in this recovery state. You're not going to adapt and state. You're not going to adapt and state. You're not going to adapt and build. Your body is going to pair down build. Your body is going to pair down build. Your body is going to pair down that muscle and so you're more likely to that muscle and so you're more likely to that muscle and so you're more likely to save most of the muscle just kind of save most of the muscle just kind of save most of the muscle just kind of hitting it one time a week. hitting it one time a week. hitting it one time a week. >> Yeah. I mean, the the things will change >> Yeah. I mean, the the things will change >> Yeah. I mean, the the things will change based on the performance adaptations based on the performance adaptations based on the performance adaptations you're looking for. But how whatever you're looking for. But how whatever you're looking for. But how whatever that change looks like, whether it's that change looks like, whether it's that change looks like, whether it's more muscle, uh, less endurance, or more more muscle, uh, less endurance, or more more muscle, uh, less endurance, or more endurance, less muscle, you could switch endurance, less muscle, you could switch endurance, less muscle, you could switch it back in the other direction very it back in the other direction very it back in the other direction very easily. easily. easily. >> Yeah. And quick, if you did lose a few >> Yeah. And quick, if you did lose a few >> Yeah. And quick, if you did lose a few pounds of muscle because now you're pounds of muscle because now you're pounds of muscle because now you're going endurance focused, going endurance focused, going endurance focused, >> you'd gain it back so fast. It's not a >> you'd gain it back so fast. It's not a >> you'd gain it back so fast. It's not a big deal at all. This is the hybrid big deal at all. This is the hybrid big deal at all. This is the hybrid approach after training. But I the big approach after training. But I the big approach after training. But I the big thing I would say for you is in bump thing I would say for you is in bump thing I would say for you is in bump your calories by at least two or three your calories by at least two or three your calories by at least two or three two or 300 two or 300 two or 300 >> and and you should notice an just >> and and you should notice an just >> and and you should notice an just increase in endurance, stamina, increase in endurance, stamina, increase in endurance, stamina, strength, the whole deal. strength, the whole deal. strength, the whole deal. >> Awesome. That sounds easy enough. You >> Awesome. That sounds easy enough. You >> Awesome. That sounds easy enough. You can do that. can do that. can do that. >> You think anabolic is a good place since >> You think anabolic is a good place since >> You think anabolic is a good place since I can do two days or three days with I can do two days or three days with I can do two days or three days with that and kind of undulate that as that and kind of undulate that as that and kind of undulate that as needed. needed. needed. >> Math anabolic is good. So is math >> Math anabolic is good. So is math >> Math anabolic is good. So is math performance. performance. performance. >> Yeah, performance and just picking one >> Yeah, performance and just picking one >> Yeah, performance and just picking one of the foundational days would be great. of the foundational days would be great. of the foundational days would be great. >> Even symmetry would be good at some >> Even symmetry would be good at some >> Even symmetry would be good at some point. Those those three program do you point. Those those three program do you point. Those those three program do you have all those programs that we have all those programs that we have all those programs that we mentioned? symmetry doesn't mentioned? symmetry doesn't mentioned? symmetry doesn't >> um I don't have symmetry. >> um I don't have symmetry. >> um I don't have symmetry. >> Let's send it to you. Yeah, >> Let's send it to you. Yeah, >> Let's send it to you. Yeah, >> I really the what I love about >> I really the what I love about >> I really the what I love about performance though is that you you pick performance though is that you you pick performance though is that you you pick a foundational day there one it's got a a foundational day there one it's got a a foundational day there one it's got a lot more multiplaner unilateral type of lot more multiplaner unilateral type of lot more multiplaner unilateral type of work in there and then in addition to work in there and then in addition to work in there and then in addition to that you have having the background that that you have having the background that that you have having the background that you have listen to your body if this is you have listen to your body if this is you have listen to your body if this is a week where you're just like man I'm a week where you're just like man I'm a week where you're just like man I'm feeling tax choose a mobility day and do feeling tax choose a mobility day and do feeling tax choose a mobility day and do mobility work mobility work mobility work >> and so and that's in that program >> and so and that's in that program >> and so and that's in that program already so just follow like that's how I already so just follow like that's how I already so just follow like that's how I if I was coaching myself through what if I was coaching myself through what if I was coaching myself through what you're trying to do I'd have this kind you're trying to do I'd have this kind you're trying to do I'd have this kind of blueprint of scaffolding like S's of blueprint of scaffolding like S's of blueprint of scaffolding like S's saying it's like all All right, I'm saying it's like all All right, I'm saying it's like all All right, I'm going to train strength train two days a going to train strength train two days a going to train strength train two days a week. I'm going to run two days a week. week. I'm going to run two days a week. week. I'm going to run two days a week. That's the plan. Reality is sometimes That's the plan. Reality is sometimes That's the plan. Reality is sometimes you're going to be feeling under you're going to be feeling under you're going to be feeling under weather. Sometimes you're not you're weather. Sometimes you're not you're weather. Sometimes you're not you're going to feel like a little wore down going to feel like a little wore down going to feel like a little wore down cuz not the greatest sleep. You got cuz not the greatest sleep. You got cuz not the greatest sleep. You got kids. You got stuff going on. And then kids. You got stuff going on. And then kids. You got stuff going on. And then I'm going to go, you know what? I'm I'm going to go, you know what? I'm I'm going to go, you know what? I'm going to back off one of those strength going to back off one of those strength going to back off one of those strength training days. I'm just going to do a training days. I'm just going to do a training days. I'm just going to do a mobility day today. And so I like that. mobility day today. And so I like that. mobility day today. And so I like that. >> Taylor, I just I just caught something >> Taylor, I just I just caught something >> Taylor, I just I just caught something that I missed, too. By the way, let me that I missed, too. By the way, let me that I missed, too. By the way, let me You're a group fitness instructor. How You're a group fitness instructor. How You're a group fitness instructor. How many classes do you teach a week? many classes do you teach a week? many classes do you teach a week? >> So, in putting that in there, I'm not >> So, in putting that in there, I'm not >> So, in putting that in there, I'm not actually doing it with them. I'm more actually doing it with them. I'm more actually doing it with them. I'm more like coaching them through it. So, I'm like coaching them through it. So, I'm like coaching them through it. So, I'm not that's not added by not that's not added by not that's not added by >> Okay, good. We're buying them. >> Okay, good. We're buying them. >> Okay, good. We're buying them. >> I still think you need to bump your >> I still think you need to bump your >> I still think you need to bump your calories. calories. calories. >> Yeah. To Adam's point earlier though >> Yeah. To Adam's point earlier though >> Yeah. To Adam's point earlier though about performance, I think that uh about performance, I think that uh about performance, I think that uh living in phase two of that for the living in phase two of that for the living in phase two of that for the foundation days is going to benefit you foundation days is going to benefit you foundation days is going to benefit you better. Yeah. better. Yeah. better. Yeah. >> So, you can really kind of reinforce >> So, you can really kind of reinforce >> So, you can really kind of reinforce Yeah. a lot of those supporting muscles. Yeah. a lot of those supporting muscles. Yeah. a lot of those supporting muscles. And ju just so you know, somebody like And ju just so you know, somebody like And ju just so you know, somebody like you, fit, healthy, consistent working you, fit, healthy, consistent working you, fit, healthy, consistent working out, whatever, with that kind of working out, whatever, with that kind of working out, whatever, with that kind of working out, in my experience, when everything's out, in my experience, when everything's out, in my experience, when everything's working well, they will typically working well, they will typically working well, they will typically consume closer to 27, 2,800 calories. consume closer to 27, 2,800 calories. consume closer to 27, 2,800 calories. So, I gave you a bump of 2 to 300, but I So, I gave you a bump of 2 to 300, but I So, I gave you a bump of 2 to 300, but I think you'd still be able to bump it think you'd still be able to bump it think you'd still be able to bump it after that and get even better per Don't after that and get even better per Don't after that and get even better per Don't be afraid of it is what I'm saying. be afraid of it is what I'm saying. be afraid of it is what I'm saying. Don't be afraid of Don't be afraid of Don't be afraid of >> increasing the calories because I think >> increasing the calories because I think >> increasing the calories because I think right now you're probably eating just right now you're probably eating just right now you're probably eating just enough. Yeah. enough. Yeah. enough. Yeah. >> And so, it's probably holding back some >> And so, it's probably holding back some >> And so, it's probably holding back some of your performance. of your performance. of your performance. >> You're going to feel a difference. Yeah. >> You're going to feel a difference. Yeah. >> You're going to feel a difference. Yeah. Would you put it towards carbohydrates Would you put it towards carbohydrates Would you put it towards carbohydrates or where would you or where would you or where would you >> Your protein is great. So what was your >> Your protein is great. So what was your >> Your protein is great. So what was your fat? fat? fat? >> Um I don't remember. It's probably >> Um I don't remember. It's probably >> Um I don't remember. It's probably around 30% right now. around 30% right now. around 30% right now. >> So what is that? What is that in grams? >> So what is that? What is that in grams? >> So what is that? What is that in grams? >> I don't remember. >> I don't remember. >> I don't remember. >> Someone like you. I like your grams to >> Someone like you. I like your grams to >> Someone like you. I like your grams to be at over 70. So I don't know if you're be at over 70. So I don't know if you're be at over 70. So I don't know if you're at 70. Okay. at 70. Okay. at 70. Okay. >> So if you're not at 70, I'd bump fats. >> So if you're not at 70, I'd bump fats. >> So if you're not at 70, I'd bump fats. Otherwise otherwise go the carbohydrate Otherwise otherwise go the carbohydrate Otherwise otherwise go the carbohydrate route and and steer your carbs around route and and steer your carbs around route and and steer your carbs around the runs. the runs. the runs. >> So I like it, you know, pre pre-run hour >> So I like it, you know, pre pre-run hour >> So I like it, you know, pre pre-run hour before your run or whatever like that. before your run or whatever like that. before your run or whatever like that. And then when you get done with it, And then when you get done with it, And then when you get done with it, replenish. Um, that'll that'll that'll replenish. Um, that'll that'll that'll replenish. Um, that'll that'll that'll do good. do good. do good. >> Awesome. Well, I appreciate you guys so >> Awesome. Well, I appreciate you guys so >> Awesome. Well, I appreciate you guys so much. I've just you guys have just been much. I've just you guys have just been much. I've just you guys have just been awesome for lots of stages of life for awesome for lots of stages of life for awesome for lots of stages of life for me and I send all your stuff to my mom. me and I send all your stuff to my mom. me and I send all your stuff to my mom. I've actually tried to get her to to put I've actually tried to get her to to put I've actually tried to get her to to put a put a question in and hop on with you a put a question in and hop on with you a put a question in and hop on with you guys, too. So, she might be getting on guys, too. So, she might be getting on guys, too. So, she might be getting on soon and she was really excited. That soon and she was really excited. That soon and she was really excited. That would be great. would be great. would be great. >> I appreciate it. It's quite an honor. >> I appreciate it. It's quite an honor. >> I appreciate it. It's quite an honor. Taylor, does she Does she follow any of Taylor, does she Does she follow any of Taylor, does she Does she follow any of our programs? our programs? our programs? >> Uh, my mom. >> Uh, my mom. >> Uh, my mom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I've had I've tried to get her to do >> I've had I've tried to get her to do >> I've had I've tried to get her to do anabolic. She's she's done it a couple anabolic. She's she's done it a couple anabolic. She's she's done it a couple times in the last couple years. times in the last couple years. times in the last couple years. >> Oh, good. Okay. Good. Good. Yeah. >> Oh, good. Okay. Good. Good. Yeah. >> Oh, good. Okay. Good. Good. Yeah. Perfect. All right. Perfect. Perfect. All right. Perfect. Perfect. All right. Perfect. >> Yeah, we'll keep >> Yeah, we'll keep >> Yeah, we'll keep >> you guys appreciate it. All right, you >> you guys appreciate it. All right, you >> you guys appreciate it. All right, you got it. got it. got it. >> Have a good >> Have a good >> Have a good >> That's great. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, she's doing good. Yeah, she's >> Yeah, she's doing good. Yeah, she's >> Yeah, she's doing good. Yeah, she's doing the calories is a big one. doing the calories is a big one. doing the calories is a big one. >> Yeah, she could handle more that that >> Yeah, she could handle more that that >> Yeah, she could handle more that that amount of training. Uh she could easily amount of training. Uh she could easily amount of training. Uh she could easily be up up in calories. be up up in calories. be up up in calories. >> It's remarkable how often uh pe people >> It's remarkable how often uh pe people >> It's remarkable how often uh pe people who exercise regularly, especially who exercise regularly, especially who exercise regularly, especially women, but this happens to guys. They women, but this happens to guys. They women, but this happens to guys. They just don't eat enough just don't eat enough just don't eat enough >> for the performance they're looking for. >> for the performance they're looking for. >> for the performance they're looking for. >> Well, look, we just got off a call with >> Well, look, we just got off a call with >> Well, look, we just got off a call with a girl right before her. I think was 5'7 a girl right before her. I think was 5'7 a girl right before her. I think was 5'7 or 5'8, similar height, uh similar or 5'8, similar height, uh similar or 5'8, similar height, uh similar similar weight. similar weight. similar weight. >> Um walking only, not even running, just >> Um walking only, not even running, just >> Um walking only, not even running, just 10,000 steps and is eating 3,000 10,000 steps and is eating 3,000 10,000 steps and is eating 3,000 calories. calories. calories. >> 3,000. Yeah. >> 3,000. Yeah. >> 3,000. Yeah. >> You know, so it's uh >> You know, so it's uh >> You know, so it's uh >> And I mean, how many times have I made a >> And I mean, how many times have I made a >> And I mean, how many times have I made a client like this client like this client like this >> where all you do is increase their >> where all you do is increase their >> where all you do is increase their calories and boom, boom. calories and boom, boom. calories and boom, boom. >> Oh, yeah. Makes a massive difference. >> Oh, yeah. Makes a massive difference. >> Oh, yeah. Makes a massive difference. >> Our next caller is Lauren from Arizona. >> Our next caller is Lauren from Arizona. >> Our next caller is Lauren from Arizona. >> Hey, Lauren. >> Hey, Lauren. >> Hey, Lauren. >> Hey, back backtoback days we get to see >> Hey, back backtoback days we get to see >> Hey, back backtoback days we get to see you. you. you. >> I know. Long time no see. >> I know. Long time no see. >> I know. Long time no see. >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? Um, well, well, thanks for having me on. Um, well, well, thanks for having me on. Um, well, well, thanks for having me on. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. >> I, um, just so I'm not like, let >> I, um, just so I'm not like, let >> I, um, just so I'm not like, let Zeppelin and ramble on here, I'm going Zeppelin and ramble on here, I'm going Zeppelin and ramble on here, I'm going to pull up my email cuz of course I to pull up my email cuz of course I to pull up my email cuz of course I would just get to talking with you guys. would just get to talking with you guys. would just get to talking with you guys. >> I love the reference, by the way. That >> I love the reference, by the way. That >> I love the reference, by the way. That was good. was good. was good. >> I know, Justin. I knew you'd get it. >> I know, Justin. I knew you'd get it. >> I know, Justin. I knew you'd get it. Okay. Hi, Mind. Thanks for all you do. Okay. Hi, Mind. Thanks for all you do. Okay. Hi, Mind. Thanks for all you do. You have changed my life in so many You have changed my life in so many You have changed my life in so many ways, bringing many blessings to my ways, bringing many blessings to my ways, bringing many blessings to my family. I wish I could express my family. I wish I could express my family. I wish I could express my gratitude and immense healing this show gratitude and immense healing this show gratitude and immense healing this show and your teachings have brought. I'm a and your teachings have brought. I'm a and your teachings have brought. I'm a married 35-year-old mom of two wild married 35-year-old mom of two wild married 35-year-old mom of two wild boys, a 5-year-old and a soon tobe boys, a 5-year-old and a soon tobe boys, a 5-year-old and a soon tobe 2-year-old. I have been in the muscle 2-year-old. I have been in the muscle 2-year-old. I have been in the muscle mommy movement crew since the beginning, mommy movement crew since the beginning, mommy movement crew since the beginning, and I am incredibly grateful for the and I am incredibly grateful for the and I am incredibly grateful for the amazing coaches, Karen and Nicole. Also, amazing coaches, Karen and Nicole. Also, amazing coaches, Karen and Nicole. Also, credit to Alyssa in the beginning, too. credit to Alyssa in the beginning, too. credit to Alyssa in the beginning, too. The pod and this group of ladies have The pod and this group of ladies have The pod and this group of ladies have been truly so healing and made me been truly so healing and made me been truly so healing and made me realize I wanted to pursue a personal realize I wanted to pursue a personal realize I wanted to pursue a personal training career. I've been on my own training career. I've been on my own training career. I've been on my own health and fitness journey since March health and fitness journey since March health and fitness journey since March 2025, but this time I'm approaching it 2025, but this time I'm approaching it 2025, but this time I'm approaching it from a place of self-love. ditching from a place of self-love. ditching from a place of self-love. ditching long-distance running and starvation to long-distance running and starvation to long-distance running and starvation to properly fuel my body and lift heavy properly fuel my body and lift heavy properly fuel my body and lift heavy [ __ ] I've lost 62 lbs and gained [ __ ] I've lost 62 lbs and gained [ __ ] I've lost 62 lbs and gained significant muscle and a greater significant muscle and a greater significant muscle and a greater mindset. I'm working towards becoming a mindset. I'm working towards becoming a mindset. I'm working towards becoming a personal trainer, but I also feel my personal trainer, but I also feel my personal trainer, but I also feel my body isn't what it should be to teach body isn't what it should be to teach body isn't what it should be to teach others. I technically have 38 more others. I technically have 38 more others. I technically have 38 more pounds to lose if we are talking about pounds to lose if we are talking about pounds to lose if we are talking about the goal weight. I know I'm strong and the goal weight. I know I'm strong and the goal weight. I know I'm strong and capable, but the imposttor syndrome capable, but the imposttor syndrome capable, but the imposttor syndrome other callers mention is very real. I other callers mention is very real. I other callers mention is very real. I guess I'm just fearful that if I show up guess I'm just fearful that if I show up guess I'm just fearful that if I show up to a big box gym, they will scoff at me to a big box gym, they will scoff at me to a big box gym, they will scoff at me because I'm overweight and don't fit the because I'm overweight and don't fit the because I'm overweight and don't fit the typical image of a personal trainer. typical image of a personal trainer. typical image of a personal trainer. Nicole Wolf uh reminded me that my Nicole Wolf uh reminded me that my Nicole Wolf uh reminded me that my journey and past history would be my journey and past history would be my journey and past history would be my strengths for better empathizing with strengths for better empathizing with strengths for better empathizing with and relating to clients. I guess I'm and relating to clients. I guess I'm and relating to clients. I guess I'm just scared they won't give me the just scared they won't give me the just scared they won't give me the opportunity. Should I continue my opportunity. Should I continue my opportunity. Should I continue my journey and lose more weight before journey and lose more weight before journey and lose more weight before going for it, or should I just take the going for it, or should I just take the going for it, or should I just take the plunge and hold my head up? I think I plunge and hold my head up? I think I plunge and hold my head up? I think I know the answer, but my ED brain seems know the answer, but my ED brain seems know the answer, but my ED brain seems to be very loud right now. Keep killing to be very loud right now. Keep killing to be very loud right now. Keep killing it. Love you guys. Thank you for your it. Love you guys. Thank you for your it. Love you guys. Thank you for your guidance. That was a bad ED day. guidance. That was a bad ED day. guidance. That was a bad ED day. >> Sorry. Wow. Haven't read that in a >> Sorry. Wow. Haven't read that in a >> Sorry. Wow. Haven't read that in a while. while. while. >> No, that's good. >> No, that's good. >> No, that's good. >> Yeah, that was rough. Uh I do have some >> Yeah, that was rough. Uh I do have some >> Yeah, that was rough. Uh I do have some updates. updates. updates. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right, let's go. >> All right, let's go. >> All right, let's go. >> Okay. Um so I did hold my head up and >> Okay. Um so I did hold my head up and >> Okay. Um so I did hold my head up and actually went for it. I um I wrote you actually went for it. I um I wrote you actually went for it. I um I wrote you guys like an hour after I passed my NASM guys like an hour after I passed my NASM guys like an hour after I passed my NASM CBT exam. CBT exam. CBT exam. >> Yeah. So nice. um got certified that day >> Yeah. So nice. um got certified that day >> Yeah. So nice. um got certified that day and then was like, "Oh [ __ ] you did it. and then was like, "Oh [ __ ] you did it. and then was like, "Oh [ __ ] you did it. Oh no, now you have to do it." And viral Oh no, now you have to do it." And viral Oh no, now you have to do it." And viral obviously since I wrote you. Um so I obviously since I wrote you. Um so I obviously since I wrote you. Um so I applied to gyms. I had I applied to applied to gyms. I had I applied to applied to gyms. I had I applied to three gyms in my proximity and had two three gyms in my proximity and had two three gyms in my proximity and had two interviews. Uh one they offered me the interviews. Uh one they offered me the interviews. Uh one they offered me the job right there. The other one uh job right there. The other one uh job right there. The other one uh ghosted me. I felt like I was in my 20s ghosted me. I felt like I was in my 20s ghosted me. I felt like I was in my 20s dating again or something waiting on a dating again or something waiting on a dating again or something waiting on a call. It was funny. Um, but so obviously call. It was funny. Um, but so obviously call. It was funny. Um, but so obviously a little bit different from when I first a little bit different from when I first a little bit different from when I first wrote you guys, but I did go for it. Um, wrote you guys, but I did go for it. Um, wrote you guys, but I did go for it. Um, I did turn down that job offer, the I did turn down that job offer, the I did turn down that job offer, the >> Oh, the gems. >> Oh, the gems. >> Oh, the gems. >> How come? Why did you turn it down? >> How come? Why did you turn it down? >> How come? Why did you turn it down? >> Uh, honestly, it felt really sleazy. >> Uh, honestly, it felt really sleazy. >> Uh, honestly, it felt really sleazy. There were red flags. It was like There were red flags. It was like There were red flags. It was like danger, Will Robinson, danger. Okay. danger, Will Robinson, danger. Okay. danger, Will Robinson, danger. Okay. >> A couple times. Um, we did the like a >> A couple times. Um, we did the like a >> A couple times. Um, we did the like a mock pitch, uh, sales pitch, uh, which mock pitch, uh, sales pitch, uh, which mock pitch, uh, sales pitch, uh, which was fine. I'm used to that. I was in was fine. I'm used to that. I was in was fine. I'm used to that. I was in sales or I am in sales, have been for a sales or I am in sales, have been for a sales or I am in sales, have been for a long time, so it was fine. Where he was long time, so it was fine. Where he was long time, so it was fine. Where he was basically potential new client, gave me basically potential new client, gave me basically potential new client, gave me the rundown like, "Oh, I'm brand new to the rundown like, "Oh, I'm brand new to the rundown like, "Oh, I'm brand new to this." So, and so on. So, I went into it this." So, and so on. So, I went into it this." So, and so on. So, I went into it like, "Hey, I think it'd be good to like, "Hey, I think it'd be good to like, "Hey, I think it'd be good to start you off 2 to three days a week. I start you off 2 to three days a week. I start you off 2 to three days a week. I think that'd be a good way to start." think that'd be a good way to start." think that'd be a good way to start." And he's like, "I'm going to stop you And he's like, "I'm going to stop you And he's like, "I'm going to stop you right there. We do 5 days here." like so right there. We do 5 days here." like so right there. We do 5 days here." like so zero to 60 I feel like that would zero to 60 I feel like that would zero to 60 I feel like that would inevitably lead to failure and he's like inevitably lead to failure and he's like inevitably lead to failure and he's like we do five days. we do five days. we do five days. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like so that felt cringy. The other one >> Like so that felt cringy. The other one >> Like so that felt cringy. The other one it felt like an amazing interview. it felt like an amazing interview. it felt like an amazing interview. >> Um but and I it was green flags >> Um but and I it was green flags >> Um but and I it was green flags everywhere and actually had mind pump everywhere and actually had mind pump everywhere and actually had mind pump like philosophies constantly sprinkled like philosophies constantly sprinkled like philosophies constantly sprinkled in there. Asked him if he knew you guys in there. Asked him if he knew you guys in there. Asked him if he knew you guys um was aware of the podcast and he um was aware of the podcast and he um was aware of the podcast and he didn't like now you do. But yeah, so didn't like now you do. But yeah, so didn't like now you do. But yeah, so that's how that went. that's how that went. that's how that went. >> Okay. Oh, >> Okay. Oh, >> Okay. Oh, >> well, good. Good job. >> well, good. Good job. >> well, good. Good job. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> getting out there. Um, and I'm going to >> getting out there. Um, and I'm going to >> getting out there. Um, and I'm going to tell you something. So, uh, and there's tell you something. So, uh, and there's tell you something. So, uh, and there's >> often times what happens? Well, let me >> often times what happens? Well, let me >> often times what happens? Well, let me ask you this question. This might help. ask you this question. This might help. ask you this question. This might help. >> You worked with, uh, Karen, Nicole, and >> You worked with, uh, Karen, Nicole, and >> You worked with, uh, Karen, Nicole, and in the early days, Alyssa, right? in the early days, Alyssa, right? in the early days, Alyssa, right? >> Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Correct. Yeah. >> Okay. What made them good coaches for >> Okay. What made them good coaches for >> Okay. What made them good coaches for you? you? you? >> Um, I mean, >> Um, I mean, >> Um, I mean, well, I'll give you great example for well, I'll give you great example for well, I'll give you great example for Nicole. She's been there this entire Nicole. She's been there this entire Nicole. She's been there this entire time like with this process. I even time like with this process. I even time like with this process. I even interviewed interviewed her back in interviewed interviewed her back in interviewed interviewed her back in October just because I wanted her story. October just because I wanted her story. October just because I wanted her story. I I know the logistics of becoming a I I know the logistics of becoming a I I know the logistics of becoming a trainer, but she's been along with the trainer, but she's been along with the trainer, but she's been along with the process. So, and she's been invested in process. So, and she's been invested in process. So, and she's been invested in in this and reaching out to me like, in this and reaching out to me like, in this and reaching out to me like, "Hey, how's it going?" So, she takes the "Hey, how's it going?" So, she takes the "Hey, how's it going?" So, she takes the time out and it feels like she actually time out and it feels like she actually time out and it feels like she actually cares, which makes a great coach cares, which makes a great coach cares, which makes a great coach trainer. I've had bad ones where clearly trainer. I've had bad ones where clearly trainer. I've had bad ones where clearly you didn't matter to them at all. And so you didn't matter to them at all. And so you didn't matter to them at all. And so all of those girls I feel like are so all of those girls I feel like are so all of those girls I feel like are so invested. And yeah, when you the invested. And yeah, when you the invested. And yeah, when you the aesthetics don't matter, like I don't aesthetics don't matter, like I don't aesthetics don't matter, like I don't think about their bodies. Obviously, think about their bodies. Obviously, think about their bodies. Obviously, it's our relationship. it's our relationship. it's our relationship. >> You knew exactly where I was going. >> You knew exactly where I was going. >> You knew exactly where I was going. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't say >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't say >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't say anything about how they look. anything about how they look. anything about how they look. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yeah. So, um it really doesn't matter. >> Yeah. So, um it really doesn't matter. >> Yeah. So, um it really doesn't matter. Now, in the beginning, it may to some Now, in the beginning, it may to some Now, in the beginning, it may to some people uh because when we think fitness, people uh because when we think fitness, people uh because when we think fitness, we think of how we look. So, someone may we think of how we look. So, someone may we think of how we look. So, someone may look at someone and say, "I want to look look at someone and say, "I want to look look at someone and say, "I want to look like that person. I'm going to work with like that person. I'm going to work with like that person. I'm going to work with them." Or, and this happens actually them." Or, and this happens actually them." Or, and this happens actually very often, they look at a train, they very often, they look at a train, they very often, they look at a train, they go, "I think they might get me." go, "I think they might get me." go, "I think they might get me." Um, and then they end up working with Um, and then they end up working with Um, and then they end up working with them. So, I've had trainers of all them. So, I've had trainers of all them. So, I've had trainers of all shapes and sizes. All of them purs all shapes and sizes. All of them purs all shapes and sizes. All of them purs all of them value fitness. Obviously, you of them value fitness. Obviously, you of them value fitness. Obviously, you can't be a trainer if it's not valuable can't be a trainer if it's not valuable can't be a trainer if it's not valuable to you. Uh, and I've had trainers who to you. Uh, and I've had trainers who to you. Uh, and I've had trainers who were shredded. I've had trainers who are were shredded. I've had trainers who are were shredded. I've had trainers who are bodybuilders. I've had tra who recently bodybuilders. I've had tra who recently bodybuilders. I've had tra who recently lost a lot of weight, still kind of lost a lot of weight, still kind of lost a lot of weight, still kind of losing weight. I've had trainers who uh losing weight. I've had trainers who uh losing weight. I've had trainers who uh overcame uh major ill injury and were overcame uh major ill injury and were overcame uh major ill injury and were rehabbing um and the the average client rehabbing um and the the average client rehabbing um and the the average client wants to relate to somebody. Now, wants to relate to somebody. Now, wants to relate to somebody. Now, sometimes they look at a trainer and sometimes they look at a trainer and sometimes they look at a trainer and say, "I want to look like that person." say, "I want to look like that person." say, "I want to look like that person." That happens as well. But more often That happens as well. But more often That happens as well. But more often than not, they go, "I think I'm going to than not, they go, "I think I'm going to than not, they go, "I think I'm going to I think that person's going to get me." I think that person's going to get me." I think that person's going to get me." And often times it's like she looks like And often times it's like she looks like And often times it's like she looks like a mom or he looks like a guy that's a mom or he looks like a guy that's a mom or he looks like a guy that's around my age or she looks like she's around my age or she looks like she's around my age or she looks like she's been you know and so uh it's not a been you know and so uh it's not a been you know and so uh it's not a hindrance at all. Um and often times hindrance at all. Um and often times hindrance at all. Um and often times it's a superpower. Now the imposttor it's a superpower. Now the imposttor it's a superpower. Now the imposttor syndrome I'm just going to tell you syndrome I'm just going to tell you syndrome I'm just going to tell you almost every new trainer feels it. almost every new trainer feels it. almost every new trainer feels it. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> So that's like super common and I don't >> So that's like super common and I don't >> So that's like super common and I don't care what they look like. They all kind care what they look like. They all kind care what they look like. They all kind of feel it because it's like okay who am of feel it because it's like okay who am of feel it because it's like okay who am I to train these people? Who am I to I to train these people? Who am I to I to train these people? Who am I to like charge $100 an hour? It's a very like charge $100 an hour? It's a very like charge $100 an hour? It's a very normal thing. It's not a bad thing. I normal thing. It's not a bad thing. I normal thing. It's not a bad thing. I think it drives us to become better and think it drives us to become better and think it drives us to become better and to continue to pursue learning more. But to continue to pursue learning more. But to continue to pursue learning more. But it becomes a bad thing when it prevents it becomes a bad thing when it prevents it becomes a bad thing when it prevents you from doing this really, really cool you from doing this really, really cool you from doing this really, really cool thing, which is coach other people. thing, which is coach other people. thing, which is coach other people. Own who you are, where you are, and Own who you are, where you are, and Own who you are, where you are, and where you've come from. And if you own where you've come from. And if you own where you've come from. And if you own that and you're confident in that, that and you're confident in that, that and you're confident in that, you're going to be just fine. If you are you're going to be just fine. If you are you're going to be just fine. If you are insecure about that, that will come off insecure about that, that will come off insecure about that, that will come off your and that does and this would be the your and that does and this would be the your and that does and this would be the same conversation I'd have to a trainer same conversation I'd have to a trainer same conversation I'd have to a trainer who is insecure about sales or doesn't who is insecure about sales or doesn't who is insecure about sales or doesn't think they're smart enough. So, whatever think they're smart enough. So, whatever think they're smart enough. So, whatever if if you're if you are insecure about if if you're if you are insecure about if if you're if you are insecure about that as you communicate to people, it that as you communicate to people, it that as you communicate to people, it will bleed into them and then it'll will bleed into them and then it'll will bleed into them and then it'll it'll just perpetuate and it'll make it'll just perpetuate and it'll make it'll just perpetuate and it'll make itself worse. itself worse. itself worse. >> But if you own who you are, where you >> But if you own who you are, where you >> But if you own who you are, where you are, where you came from, and be proud are, where you came from, and be proud are, where you came from, and be proud of that, you're going to kill it. Mhm. of that, you're going to kill it. Mhm. of that, you're going to kill it. Mhm. >> You were killer. I tell if you've if >> You were killer. I tell if you've if >> You were killer. I tell if you've if you've been listening long enough, you've been listening long enough, you've been listening long enough, you've probably heard me tell my story. you've probably heard me tell my story. you've probably heard me tell my story. What I was not the fittest trainer. I What I was not the fittest trainer. I What I was not the fittest trainer. I definitely wasn't the smartest. I was definitely wasn't the smartest. I was definitely wasn't the smartest. I was the least experienced. I was the the least experienced. I was the the least experienced. I was the youngest. So super came in. But I wore youngest. So super came in. But I wore youngest. So super came in. But I wore that. Hey, this is who I but I'm that. Hey, this is who I but I'm that. Hey, this is who I but I'm passionate about what I do and I'm passionate about what I do and I'm passionate about what I do and I'm excited. And that came off when I talked excited. And that came off when I talked excited. And that came off when I talked to people and I only knew a few things. to people and I only knew a few things. to people and I only knew a few things. I didn't know a lot. I didn't have a lot I didn't know a lot. I didn't have a lot I didn't know a lot. I didn't have a lot of experience. Didn't have a lot of So I of experience. Didn't have a lot of So I of experience. Didn't have a lot of So I talked to those few things. So those talked to those few things. So those talked to those few things. So those things that have changed your life things that have changed your life things that have changed your life radically and have helped you, go give radically and have helped you, go give radically and have helped you, go give that and go lean into that. Don't think that and go lean into that. Don't think that and go lean into that. Don't think about the things you don't know yet or about the things you don't know yet or about the things you don't know yet or don't think about the things you haven't don't think about the things you haven't don't think about the things you haven't got a certain like don't worry about got a certain like don't worry about got a certain like don't worry about that [ __ ] Go own what you do know, what that [ __ ] Go own what you do know, what that [ __ ] Go own what you do know, what you came from, who you are and be proud you came from, who you are and be proud you came from, who you are and be proud of that and go share that. There are of that and go share that. There are of that and go share that. There are tens of thousands of other people that tens of thousands of other people that tens of thousands of other people that need that. You'll you'll be just fine. need that. You'll you'll be just fine. need that. You'll you'll be just fine. As long as you believe in that, if you As long as you believe in that, if you As long as you believe in that, if you believe in that and you carry yourself believe in that and you carry yourself believe in that and you carry yourself that way, you will absolutely crush it. that way, you will absolutely crush it. that way, you will absolutely crush it. But if you allow yourself to nitpick But if you allow yourself to nitpick But if you allow yourself to nitpick yourself or think about all the things yourself or think about all the things yourself or think about all the things you don't know or think about the things you don't know or think about the things you don't know or think about the things you haven't learned yet or how your body you haven't learned yet or how your body you haven't learned yet or how your body isn't where you want it to be, if you isn't where you want it to be, if you isn't where you want it to be, if you think about all that [ __ ] it'll come think about all that [ __ ] it'll come think about all that [ __ ] it'll come out in the way you communicate to out in the way you communicate to out in the way you communicate to people. But if you're like, "Fuck yeah, people. But if you're like, "Fuck yeah, people. But if you're like, "Fuck yeah, I'm here." Then this is where I came I'm here." Then this is where I came I'm here." Then this is where I came from. This is where I'm going. Like, from. This is where I'm going. Like, from. This is where I'm going. Like, these are the things I know. This is these are the things I know. This is these are the things I know. This is what's changed my life. And you go give what's changed my life. And you go give what's changed my life. And you go give give that to people. Oh my god, you give that to people. Oh my god, you give that to people. Oh my god, you you'll kill it. Yeah, you'll kill it. Yeah, you'll kill it. Yeah, >> you'll kill it. Yeah. Ability to ability >> you'll kill it. Yeah. Ability to ability >> you'll kill it. Yeah. Ability to ability to create relationship and trust is the to create relationship and trust is the to create relationship and trust is the most important thing a coach can have. most important thing a coach can have. most important thing a coach can have. If they don't have that, everything else If they don't have that, everything else If they don't have that, everything else doesn't matter. doesn't matter. doesn't matter. >> Yeah, I'm definitely confident in that. >> Yeah, I'm definitely confident in that. >> Yeah, I'm definitely confident in that. Plus, Plus, Plus, I mean, Nicole and I have talked about I mean, Nicole and I have talked about I mean, Nicole and I have talked about it uh just with my past in terms of like it uh just with my past in terms of like it uh just with my past in terms of like that cyclical with weight gain, weight that cyclical with weight gain, weight that cyclical with weight gain, weight loss. Um but also like being an athlete loss. Um but also like being an athlete loss. Um but also like being an athlete formerly and you know injuries and formerly and you know injuries and formerly and you know injuries and losing your identity, losing your identity, losing your identity, eating disorders. I feel like there's a eating disorders. I feel like there's a eating disorders. I feel like there's a lot of things I could relate to people lot of things I could relate to people lot of things I could relate to people on. But yeah, definitely to what you on. But yeah, definitely to what you on. But yeah, definitely to what you said, Adam, and I swear I didn't walk said, Adam, and I swear I didn't walk said, Adam, and I swear I didn't walk into the interviews, you know, like I into the interviews, you know, like I into the interviews, you know, like I was in that email. I was definitely very was in that email. I was definitely very was in that email. I was definitely very confident and I normally am very confident and I normally am very confident and I normally am very confident but that was a that was a confident but that was a that was a confident but that was a that was a rough day I guess. rough day I guess. rough day I guess. >> Appreciate the vulnerability because >> Appreciate the vulnerability because >> Appreciate the vulnerability because there's a lot of a lot of trainers or there's a lot of a lot of trainers or there's a lot of a lot of trainers or potential trainers potential trainers potential trainers >> who need to hear this uh this >> who need to hear this uh this >> who need to hear this uh this conversation. conversation. conversation. >> Yeah, this is a major hurdle like >> Yeah, this is a major hurdle like >> Yeah, this is a major hurdle like they're saying for every new trainer and they're saying for every new trainer and they're saying for every new trainer and I think that we can pick ourselves apart I think that we can pick ourselves apart I think that we can pick ourselves apart very easily. uh you know I felt like I very easily. uh you know I felt like I very easily. uh you know I felt like I didn't communicate well enough or was didn't communicate well enough or was didn't communicate well enough or was like really willing to put myself out like really willing to put myself out like really willing to put myself out there uh to the extent that I now can. there uh to the extent that I now can. there uh to the extent that I now can. But you know these are all like steps But you know these are all like steps But you know these are all like steps that I just wanted to immerse myself in that I just wanted to immerse myself in that I just wanted to immerse myself in it and just you know explain again what it and just you know explain again what it and just you know explain again what I was confident in being able to do with I was confident in being able to do with I was confident in being able to do with them. So just stick with what you know them. So just stick with what you know them. So just stick with what you know and and you're going to I was willing to and and you're going to I was willing to and and you're going to I was willing to show people like how much I cared show people like how much I cared show people like how much I cared through a lot of my professionalism and through a lot of my professionalism and through a lot of my professionalism and through a lot of my detailed through a lot of my detailed through a lot of my detailed organization. And so that was like what organization. And so that was like what organization. And so that was like what I leaned on in the beginning a lot was I leaned on in the beginning a lot was I leaned on in the beginning a lot was like I'm going to be very structured and like I'm going to be very structured and like I'm going to be very structured and like I'm going to have this huge plan like I'm going to have this huge plan like I'm going to have this huge plan for each person. I put it together like for each person. I put it together like for each person. I put it together like 2 three days ahead of time before I even 2 three days ahead of time before I even 2 three days ahead of time before I even met with them. Uh and just it it was met with them. Uh and just it it was met with them. Uh and just it it was just one of those things where it just just one of those things where it just just one of those things where it just boosted up my my own confidence and then boosted up my my own confidence and then boosted up my my own confidence and then that kind of came out and then down the that kind of came out and then down the that kind of came out and then down the road I keep you know with repetition it road I keep you know with repetition it road I keep you know with repetition it just became like automatic and and just just became like automatic and and just just became like automatic and and just something that too like you you look something that too like you you look something that too like you you look back and you're like wow I I know so back and you're like wow I I know so back and you're like wow I I know so much more than your average person much more than your average person much more than your average person coming in. Uh, and that's really what coming in. Uh, and that's really what coming in. Uh, and that's really what you have to give and you can relate to you have to give and you can relate to you have to give and you can relate to them uh, so much better than somebody them uh, so much better than somebody them uh, so much better than somebody that's like uh, you know, knows how to that's like uh, you know, knows how to that's like uh, you know, knows how to just train themselves and isn't like just train themselves and isn't like just train themselves and isn't like looking at their needs. So, if you're looking at their needs. So, if you're looking at their needs. So, if you're really looking at their needs and and really looking at their needs and and really looking at their needs and and you care a lot, that's going to go so you care a lot, that's going to go so you care a lot, that's going to go so far in this industry. Are you in our far in this industry. Are you in our far in this industry. Are you in our course, Lauren? Are you in our trainer course, Lauren? Are you in our trainer course, Lauren? Are you in our trainer group and course? group and course? group and course? >> No, not the Elite Trainer Academy. I do >> No, not the Elite Trainer Academy. I do >> No, not the Elite Trainer Academy. I do actually I love listening to it though. actually I love listening to it though. actually I love listening to it though. Um, Kyle's awesome. Um, but I'm not Um, Kyle's awesome. Um, but I'm not Um, Kyle's awesome. Um, but I'm not actually in the course. though I didn't actually in the course. though I didn't actually in the course. though I didn't know just because I just got my cert I know just because I just got my cert I know just because I just got my cert I just started my corrective exercise spec just started my corrective exercise spec just started my corrective exercise spec so I wasn't sure if I was just too much so I wasn't sure if I was just too much so I wasn't sure if I was just too much of a newbie like you no you should of a newbie like you no you should of a newbie like you no you should >> by the way good for you for going >> by the way good for you for going >> by the way good for you for going correctional exercise right out the gate correctional exercise right out the gate correctional exercise right out the gate very valuable very valuable very valuable >> well actually it's because of the >> well actually it's because of the >> well actually it's because of the article you wrote on how to become a article you wrote on how to become a article you wrote on how to become a successful personal trainer to set successful personal trainer to set successful personal trainer to set myself apart myself apart myself apart >> no you're doing great so our course is >> no you're doing great so our course is >> no you're doing great so our course is more focused on how to be a good coach more focused on how to be a good coach more focused on how to be a good coach an effective coach and build your an effective coach and build your an effective coach and build your business so it's le it's not you're not business so it's le it's not you're not business so it's le it's not you're not going to get the correctional exercise going to get the correctional exercise going to get the correctional exercise stuff in there. Biomechanics, you're not stuff in there. Biomechanics, you're not stuff in there. Biomechanics, you're not it's all about like being an effective it's all about like being an effective it's all about like being an effective coach. So, it's the stuff we teach our coach. So, it's the stuff we teach our coach. So, it's the stuff we teach our trainers and coaches, how to be an trainers and coaches, how to be an trainers and coaches, how to be an effective coach, uh, and also how to effective coach, uh, and also how to effective coach, uh, and also how to build a business. That's what our course build a business. That's what our course build a business. That's what our course is all about. And, um, we can have Ann is all about. And, um, we can have Ann is all about. And, um, we can have Ann reach out to you and answer questions reach out to you and answer questions reach out to you and answer questions and maybe give you some advice. She she and maybe give you some advice. She she and maybe give you some advice. She she runs our education here, runs our education here, runs our education here, >> but I think that would be valuable, uh, >> but I think that would be valuable, uh, >> but I think that would be valuable, uh, for for someone like you. for for someone like you. for for someone like you. >> I definitely think you should be in >> I definitely think you should be in >> I definitely think you should be in there. So, I think you should be in there. So, I think you should be in there. So, I think you should be in there. I also just sent Doug a clip from there. I also just sent Doug a clip from there. I also just sent Doug a clip from that my body did. my body. My buddy did that my body did. my body. My buddy did that my body did. my body. My buddy did on Instagram. Uh on Instagram. Uh on Instagram. Uh >> yeah, I don't know where that came up, >> yeah, I don't know where that came up, >> yeah, I don't know where that came up, dude. dude. dude. >> Freud, he's thinking you're thinking of >> Freud, he's thinking you're thinking of >> Freud, he's thinking you're thinking of his body, dude. his body, dude. his body, dude. >> My buddy my buddy on Instagram uh did uh >> My buddy my buddy on Instagram uh did uh >> My buddy my buddy on Instagram uh did uh uh Mike, he and he it's a great clip for uh Mike, he and he it's a great clip for uh Mike, he and he it's a great clip for uh going for interviews. Um it's the uh going for interviews. Um it's the uh going for interviews. Um it's the high perform asking the high performer high perform asking the high performer high perform asking the high performer question. I think it's a really good question. I think it's a really good question. I think it's a really good clip. clip. clip. >> No, I saw that. You posted that. I loved >> No, I saw that. You posted that. I loved >> No, I saw that. You posted that. I loved it. That was a great one. Okay. Okay. it. That was a great one. Okay. Okay. it. That was a great one. Okay. Okay. Well, I'm res I'll have Doug resend it Well, I'm res I'll have Doug resend it Well, I'm res I'll have Doug resend it to you. I just think that's such a good to you. I just think that's such a good to you. I just think that's such a good thing to listen to right before you walk thing to listen to right before you walk thing to listen to right before you walk into an interview. I thought he into an interview. I thought he into an interview. I thought he explained that so well. So, that's explained that so well. So, that's explained that so well. So, that's really good. But yes, get in our elite really good. But yes, get in our elite really good. But yes, get in our elite trainer academy. You'll uh get a ton of trainer academy. You'll uh get a ton of trainer academy. You'll uh get a ton of >> And if you're if you're ever in the >> And if you're if you're ever in the >> And if you're if you're ever in the area, come visit. I don't know where area, come visit. I don't know where area, come visit. I don't know where you're located, but come come hang out. you're located, but come come hang out. you're located, but come come hang out. >> I'm in Arizona, but trust me, I thought >> I'm in Arizona, but trust me, I thought >> I'm in Arizona, but trust me, I thought about it. My bestie is in Citrus about it. My bestie is in Citrus about it. My bestie is in Citrus Heights, which is far from you guys, but Heights, which is far from you guys, but Heights, which is far from you guys, but >> not too bad for the trip. >> not too bad for the trip. >> not too bad for the trip. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Citrus Heights is not that >> Yeah. Yeah. Citrus Heights is not that >> Yeah. Yeah. Citrus Heights is not that bad at all. Hey, if you come out here, bad at all. Hey, if you come out here, bad at all. Hey, if you come out here, we'll schedule you to come listen to the we'll schedule you to come listen to the we'll schedule you to come listen to the podcast live and we'll see if we can set podcast live and we'll see if we can set podcast live and we'll see if we can set you up with the workout. you up with the workout. you up with the workout. >> Come hang Come hang out with the girls >> Come hang Come hang out with the girls >> Come hang Come hang out with the girls for a day, too. Yep, for a day, too. Yep, for a day, too. Yep, >> that'd be awesome. Can I say one thing >> that'd be awesome. Can I say one thing >> that'd be awesome. Can I say one thing really quick? Sure. I don't know if I'd really quick? Sure. I don't know if I'd really quick? Sure. I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to. Um, thanks for get the opportunity to. Um, thanks for get the opportunity to. Um, thanks for all you do. Of course, u love all of all you do. Of course, u love all of all you do. Of course, u love all of you, but S, I just wanted to say thank you, but S, I just wanted to say thank you, but S, I just wanted to say thank you to you in particular. You'll always you to you in particular. You'll always you to you in particular. You'll always um have a special place in my heart. um have a special place in my heart. um have a special place in my heart. Back in 2022, I had to go to like Back in 2022, I had to go to like Back in 2022, I had to go to like outpatient rehab for multiple eating outpatient rehab for multiple eating outpatient rehab for multiple eating disorders and it was like 7 weeks and I disorders and it was like 7 weeks and I disorders and it was like 7 weeks and I graduated and overnight everything's graduated and overnight everything's graduated and overnight everything's gone, right? And the next day I was just gone, right? And the next day I was just gone, right? And the next day I was just terrified even though I'd been in the terrified even though I'd been in the terrified even though I'd been in the real world the whole time. And I told real world the whole time. And I told real world the whole time. And I told myself, "Listen to Deloney. He's going myself, "Listen to Deloney. He's going myself, "Listen to Deloney. He's going to help you get through this. You're to help you get through this. You're to help you get through this. You're going to be okay." And turn him on. And going to be okay." And turn him on. And going to be okay." And turn him on. And it was you that day, S. And it was it was you that day, S. And it was it was you that day, S. And it was really helpful. Although I had just been really helpful. Although I had just been really helpful. Although I had just been sitting with these like-minded people, sitting with these like-minded people, sitting with these like-minded people, um there's a lot of things you're not um there's a lot of things you're not um there's a lot of things you're not allowed to say cuz you don't want to allowed to say cuz you don't want to allowed to say cuz you don't want to trigger anybody. And it just felt like trigger anybody. And it just felt like trigger anybody. And it just felt like everything you guys said, I finally felt everything you guys said, I finally felt everything you guys said, I finally felt seen and not alone. So, thanks for that seen and not alone. So, thanks for that seen and not alone. So, thanks for that in a really dark time. So, thank you. in a really dark time. So, thank you. in a really dark time. So, thank you. >> I appreciate that. It's cool to see you >> I appreciate that. It's cool to see you >> I appreciate that. It's cool to see you where where you're at now. This is going where where you're at now. This is going where where you're at now. This is going to be great. to be great. to be great. >> Yep. So, right on so much to me. So, >> Yep. So, right on so much to me. So, >> Yep. So, right on so much to me. So, thank you. thank you. thank you. >> Take care, guys. >> Take care, guys. >> Take care, guys. >> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. >> Bye. Thank you. >> Bye. Thank you. >> Bye. Thank you. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> That's a cool story. You know what's >> That's a cool story. You know what's >> That's a cool story. You know what's funny? Okay, this is just a trend. It's funny? Okay, this is just a trend. It's funny? Okay, this is just a trend. It's just just what I noticed, and I just just what I noticed, and I just just what I noticed, and I guarantee you guys have seen the same. guarantee you guys have seen the same. guarantee you guys have seen the same. >> Of all the trainers that have worked >> Of all the trainers that have worked >> Of all the trainers that have worked under you or that you've worked with, under you or that you've worked with, under you or that you've worked with, >> the most shredded, fitlooking, Instagram >> the most shredded, fitlooking, Instagram >> the most shredded, fitlooking, Instagram ready-l lookinging people typically are ready-l lookinging people typically are ready-l lookinging people typically are not the greatest trainers. not the greatest trainers. not the greatest trainers. >> Is that not a this >> Is that not a this >> Is that not a this typically out of the three of us, I've typically out of the three of us, I've typically out of the three of us, I've probably managed the most uh trainers by probably managed the most uh trainers by probably managed the most uh trainers by far and I have never had my My most far and I have never had my My most far and I have never had my My most ripped zero% ripped zero% ripped zero% >> my most ripped buff trainer was never >> my most ripped buff trainer was never >> my most ripped buff trainer was never that I always had one cuz there's there that I always had one cuz there's there that I always had one cuz there's there is a superficial client is a superficial client is a superficial client >> sure >> sure >> sure >> that that's what they'll and it's a very >> that that's what they'll and it's a very >> that that's what they'll and it's a very small percentage it's about 3% of the small percentage it's about 3% of the small percentage it's about 3% of the clients that will come in and buy person clients that will come in and buy person clients that will come in and buy person give me the most jacked guy or the I got give me the most jacked guy or the I got give me the most jacked guy or the I got them them them >> right I got them you know what I'm >> right I got them you know what I'm >> right I got them you know what I'm saying so I I have I have that guy for saying so I I have I have that guy for saying so I I have I have that guy for those people those people those people >> but that was never a good trainer >> but that was never a good trainer >> but that was never a good trainer >> it was never my top trainer my top >> it was never my top trainer my top >> it was never my top trainer my top trainer my top trainer A lot of times trainer my top trainer A lot of times trainer my top trainer A lot of times were healthy and fit, but they weren't were healthy and fit, but they weren't were healthy and fit, but they weren't >> but they look more like a typical like >> but they look more like a typical like >> but they look more like a typical like they looked healthy stage ready. Yeah. they looked healthy stage ready. Yeah. they looked healthy stage ready. Yeah. >> Because a majority of people and since >> Because a majority of people and since >> Because a majority of people and since I've filtered a lot of the clients I've filtered a lot of the clients I've filtered a lot of the clients before they got trainers, so I got to before they got trainers, so I got to before they got trainers, so I got to meet all of them. Um so thousands of meet all of them. Um so thousands of meet all of them. Um so thousands of people. Uh most people were very scared people. Uh most people were very scared people. Uh most people were very scared to have a really really fit trainer to have a really really fit trainer to have a really really fit trainer >> and and they preferred somebody that >> and and they preferred somebody that >> and and they preferred somebody that just looked healthy. just just looked just looked healthy. just just looked just looked healthy. just just looked healthier than they were healthier than they were healthier than they were >> because they felt very insecure and they >> because they felt very insecure and they >> because they felt very insecure and they they felt like they could not connect to they felt like they could not connect to they felt like they could not connect to that person that person that person >> cuz most people that go to the gym, >> cuz most people that go to the gym, >> cuz most people that go to the gym, >> they just they're not looking to look >> they just they're not looking to look >> they just they're not looking to look amazing. They think that they might say, amazing. They think that they might say, amazing. They think that they might say, "Oh, wow. That's pretty cool." "Oh, wow. That's pretty cool." "Oh, wow. That's pretty cool." >> Uh no different than you or one of us >> Uh no different than you or one of us >> Uh no different than you or one of us look at uh Michael Jordan when he plays look at uh Michael Jordan when he plays look at uh Michael Jordan when he plays basketball. But none of us go like every basketball. But none of us go like every basketball. But none of us go like every day go home and go like, "We're going to day go home and go like, "We're going to day go home and go like, "We're going to be like Michael Jordan." It's just like be like Michael Jordan." It's just like be like Michael Jordan." It's just like you accept I'll probably never be that you accept I'll probably never be that you accept I'll probably never be that good. And a lot of people think that way good. And a lot of people think that way good. And a lot of people think that way when they see super ribbed trainers, when they see super ribbed trainers, when they see super ribbed trainers, like I'll never be that way, but I need like I'll never be that way, but I need like I'll never be that way, but I need to be healthier. to be healthier. to be healthier. >> I had a memory unlock while you were >> I had a memory unlock while you were >> I had a memory unlock while you were talking because you were saying how you talking because you were saying how you talking because you were saying how you weren't the most fit, whatever, as a weren't the most fit, whatever, as a weren't the most fit, whatever, as a trainer. I mean, I started 18. I was trainer. I mean, I started 18. I was trainer. I mean, I started 18. I was working out. Uh, and I guess for working out. Uh, and I guess for working out. Uh, and I guess for compared to the typical 18-year-old, I compared to the typical 18-year-old, I compared to the typical 18-year-old, I might look like a workout, but I'll might look like a workout, but I'll might look like a workout, but I'll never forget this. This was like month never forget this. This was like month never forget this. This was like month two. U already the top trainer in the two. U already the top trainer in the two. U already the top trainer in the gym in terms of sales. And there was a gym in terms of sales. And there was a gym in terms of sales. And there was a bodybuilder on staff. And this guy, I bodybuilder on staff. And this guy, I bodybuilder on staff. And this guy, I always looked at him like, "Oh, because always looked at him like, "Oh, because always looked at him like, "Oh, because I love bodybuilding." like this guy's so I love bodybuilding." like this guy's so I love bodybuilding." like this guy's so jacked. And he came up to me, I'll never jacked. And he came up to me, I'll never jacked. And he came up to me, I'll never forget this. He came up to me and he forget this. He came up to me and he forget this. He came up to me and he goes, goes, goes, >> "You don't even look like you work out." >> "You don't even look like you work out." >> "You don't even look like you work out." And I remember being like, "Wow, dude." And I remember being like, "Wow, dude." And I remember being like, "Wow, dude." And then part of me was like, "All And then part of me was like, "All And then part of me was like, "All right, I'll show you." You know, type of right, I'll show you." You know, type of right, I'll show you." You know, type of deal. But I think, you know, and I just deal. But I think, you know, and I just deal. But I think, you know, and I just forgot about that memory. It was totally forgot about that memory. It was totally forgot about that memory. It was totally a lot cuz I don't I wasn't the jack this a lot cuz I don't I wasn't the jack this a lot cuz I don't I wasn't the jack this most. I was an 18-year-old kid. most. I was an 18-year-old kid. most. I was an 18-year-old kid. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh but it was, you know, I think, you >> Uh but it was, you know, I think, you >> Uh but it was, you know, I think, you know, you I I liked working with people. know, you I I liked working with people. know, you I I liked working with people. I like training people. I was super I like training people. I was super I like training people. I was super hungry and passionate. hungry and passionate. hungry and passionate. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> I was the permabolt guy. >> I was the permabolt guy. >> I was the permabolt guy. I got that comment a couple times. I I got that comment a couple times. I I got that comment a couple times. I used to make used to make used to make >> permabul. You know the permabul dude? >> permabul. You know the permabul dude? >> permabul. You know the permabul dude? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm pretty sure I was I'm trying to >> I'm pretty sure I was I'm trying to >> I'm pretty sure I was I'm trying to remember my exact team that I was with, remember my exact team that I was with, remember my exact team that I was with, but I was I'm pretty sure I was the but I was I'm pretty sure I was the but I was I'm pretty sure I was the least fit. Uh and fit as far as muscular least fit. Uh and fit as far as muscular least fit. Uh and fit as far as muscular cuz I was just a skinny kid is what I cuz I was just a skinny kid is what I cuz I was just a skinny kid is what I was. But and I was definitely the least was. But and I was definitely the least was. But and I was definitely the least experienced and knew I knew the least experienced and knew I knew the least experienced and knew I knew the least for sure. But I knew a few things. for sure. But I knew a few things. for sure. But I knew a few things. >> You were just ravishly handsome. That's >> You were just ravishly handsome. That's >> You were just ravishly handsome. That's the only thing. the only thing. the only thing. >> No, I wasn't even that, bro. I had push >> No, I wasn't even that, bro. I had push >> No, I wasn't even that, bro. I had push I had uh my bottom braces without the I had uh my bottom braces without the I had uh my bottom braces without the wire still stuck on my stuck on my wire still stuck on my stuck on my wire still stuck on my stuck on my teeth. [ __ ] yeah dog [ __ ] up. teeth. [ __ ] yeah dog [ __ ] up. teeth. [ __ ] yeah dog [ __ ] up. >> Yeah, bro. I was not I was not that guy >> Yeah, bro. I was not I was not that guy >> Yeah, bro. I was not I was not that guy at all. And but you know I was I liked at all. And but you know I was I liked at all. And but you know I was I liked people. I was passionate about helping people. I was passionate about helping people. I was passionate about helping others. I knew a few things and I was others. I knew a few things and I was others. I knew a few things and I was excited about those few things. Those excited about those few things. Those excited about those few things. Those few things were were revolutionary to few things were were revolutionary to few things were were revolutionary to me. me. me. >> Passion and thank God I had a >> Passion and thank God I had a >> Passion and thank God I had a personality personality personality >> and >> and >> and that was it. You know what I'm saying? that was it. You know what I'm saying? that was it. You know what I'm saying? People feel that energy. People feel that energy. People feel that energy. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Our next caller is Faith from Utah. >> Our next caller is Faith from Utah. >> Our next caller is Faith from Utah. >> Hi, Faith. How you doing, Faith? >> Hi, Faith. How you doing, Faith? >> Hi, Faith. How you doing, Faith? >> Hey, doing well. How about you guys? >> Hey, doing well. How about you guys? >> Hey, doing well. How about you guys? >> Good. How can I help you? >> Good. How can I help you? >> Good. How can I help you? >> Hey. Um, yeah. So, um, just before I >> Hey. Um, yeah. So, um, just before I >> Hey. Um, yeah. So, um, just before I read my question, just want to say read my question, just want to say read my question, just want to say thanks for all the, um, episodes you thanks for all the, um, episodes you thanks for all the, um, episodes you guys put out and all of the great like guys put out and all of the great like guys put out and all of the great like advice. Uh, I am new to Mind Pump. advice. Uh, I am new to Mind Pump. advice. Uh, I am new to Mind Pump. Probably about a month that I've been Probably about a month that I've been Probably about a month that I've been listening to it. My the trainer at my listening to it. My the trainer at my listening to it. My the trainer at my chiropractor suggested you guys. So, chiropractor suggested you guys. So, chiropractor suggested you guys. So, All right. All right. All right. >> Um, yeah, Jess at Foundation >> Um, yeah, Jess at Foundation >> Um, yeah, Jess at Foundation Chiropractic in Orm, Utah. So, diversity Chiropractic in Orm, Utah. So, diversity Chiropractic in Orm, Utah. So, diversity is great. is great. is great. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> That's awesome. >> Um, also, yeah, I just want to say >> Um, also, yeah, I just want to say >> Um, also, yeah, I just want to say thanks for the episode you did on like thanks for the episode you did on like thanks for the episode you did on like best sports for kids. I put my best sports for kids. I put my best sports for kids. I put my three-year-old into gymnastics and he three-year-old into gymnastics and he three-year-old into gymnastics and he loves it. I would have never in a loves it. I would have never in a loves it. I would have never in a million years even had the idea to do million years even had the idea to do million years even had the idea to do that. So, that. So, that. So, >> Oh, cool. That's great. That's cool. >> Oh, cool. That's great. That's cool. >> Oh, cool. That's great. That's cool. That's great. How can I help you? That's great. How can I help you? That's great. How can I help you? >> Okay, so, uh, yeah, I'll just get >> Okay, so, uh, yeah, I'll just get >> Okay, so, uh, yeah, I'll just get started. I'll read my question. I've started. I'll read my question. I've started. I'll read my question. I've updated it a little bit, so I don't know updated it a little bit, so I don't know updated it a little bit, so I don't know if you guys are looking at the one I if you guys are looking at the one I if you guys are looking at the one I sent in. It's I just updated the sent in. It's I just updated the sent in. It's I just updated the numbers. Um, but numbers. Um, but numbers. Um, but >> so every episode I've listened to by >> so every episode I've listened to by >> so every episode I've listened to by Mind Pump about fat loss or body recmp Mind Pump about fat loss or body recmp Mind Pump about fat loss or body recmp has mentioned how important it is to not has mentioned how important it is to not has mentioned how important it is to not lose any muscle in the process. I think lose any muscle in the process. I think lose any muscle in the process. I think I might be an exception to this guidance I might be an exception to this guidance I might be an exception to this guidance but wanted to ask the experts. Uh I am a but wanted to ask the experts. Uh I am a but wanted to ask the experts. Uh I am a 188 lb 57 188 lb 57 188 lb 57 male uh female 5 foot 7 in female at 25% male uh female 5 foot 7 in female at 25% male uh female 5 foot 7 in female at 25% body fat with 141 lbs of lean body mass body fat with 141 lbs of lean body mass body fat with 141 lbs of lean body mass and 47 lb of body fat. Also just for and 47 lb of body fat. Also just for and 47 lb of body fat. Also just for context about 6 months postpartum but context about 6 months postpartum but context about 6 months postpartum but not currently nursing. Uh I have been not currently nursing. Uh I have been not currently nursing. Uh I have been weightlifting for about 2 years. I would weightlifting for about 2 years. I would weightlifting for about 2 years. I would love to do a bikini competition love to do a bikini competition love to do a bikini competition eventually. And from my brief, very eventually. And from my brief, very eventually. And from my brief, very brief Googling, I think that bikini brief Googling, I think that bikini brief Googling, I think that bikini competitors at my height, uh, usually competitors at my height, uh, usually competitors at my height, uh, usually their stage weight is about between 125 their stage weight is about between 125 their stage weight is about between 125 and 135 lbs. Uh, since my lean body mass and 135 lbs. Uh, since my lean body mass and 135 lbs. Uh, since my lean body mass is already above the stage weight, and I is already above the stage weight, and I is already above the stage weight, and I need to have at least some body fat. I need to have at least some body fat. I need to have at least some body fat. I think I need to lose about 30 lbs of think I need to lose about 30 lbs of think I need to lose about 30 lbs of muscle and around 30 lb of fat. Uh, just muscle and around 30 lb of fat. Uh, just muscle and around 30 lb of fat. Uh, just wanted to confirm with you guys since I wanted to confirm with you guys since I wanted to confirm with you guys since I rarely hear you talking about losing rarely hear you talking about losing rarely hear you talking about losing muscle as a goal. Um, and then just a muscle as a goal. Um, and then just a muscle as a goal. Um, and then just a little bit more context, I was on a cut little bit more context, I was on a cut little bit more context, I was on a cut for 7 weeks and then I did a body fat u for 7 weeks and then I did a body fat u for 7 weeks and then I did a body fat u scan test and I got really scared when I scan test and I got really scared when I scan test and I got really scared when I saw that nine of the 14 lbs that I lost saw that nine of the 14 lbs that I lost saw that nine of the 14 lbs that I lost was muscle. So, decided to eat at was muscle. So, decided to eat at was muscle. So, decided to eat at maintenance for a week to hopefully give maintenance for a week to hopefully give maintenance for a week to hopefully give my metabolism a break before going back my metabolism a break before going back my metabolism a break before going back on the cut. Um, I also started taking on the cut. Um, I also started taking on the cut. Um, I also started taking creatine during my maintenance week and creatine during my maintenance week and creatine during my maintenance week and then the cut that I was doing before and then the cut that I was doing before and then the cut that I was doing before and now I'm back on my cut. It's a 600 now I'm back on my cut. It's a 600 now I'm back on my cut. It's a 600 calorie deficit and it's pretty I think calorie deficit and it's pretty I think calorie deficit and it's pretty I think it's pretty manageable. I can probably it's pretty manageable. I can probably it's pretty manageable. I can probably count on one hand the number of times count on one hand the number of times count on one hand the number of times I've actually, you know, been hungry in I've actually, you know, been hungry in I've actually, you know, been hungry in those 7 weeks. So, basically my those 7 weeks. So, basically my those 7 weeks. So, basically my questions are, do you agree that I need questions are, do you agree that I need questions are, do you agree that I need to lose about 30 lbs of muscle to be to lose about 30 lbs of muscle to be to lose about 30 lbs of muscle to be competitive on stage? And if so, is you competitive on stage? And if so, is you competitive on stage? And if so, is you know, is there a like a best way to go know, is there a like a best way to go know, is there a like a best way to go about it? Should I prioritize muscle about it? Should I prioritize muscle about it? Should I prioritize muscle loss first so that in my last cut loss first so that in my last cut loss first so that in my last cut leading up to competing I can just focus leading up to competing I can just focus leading up to competing I can just focus on fat loss? Um, yeah. I'd love I'd love on fat loss? Um, yeah. I'd love I'd love on fat loss? Um, yeah. I'd love I'd love to get your advice on it. to get your advice on it. to get your advice on it. >> I would I would hate to see you do that, >> I would I would hate to see you do that, >> I would I would hate to see you do that, by the way. by the way. by the way. >> Yeah. So, let's let's back up for a >> Yeah. So, let's let's back up for a >> Yeah. So, let's let's back up for a second. Let's back up for a second. How second. Let's back up for a second. How second. Let's back up for a second. How are you testing your body fat? Is it on are you testing your body fat? Is it on are you testing your body fat? Is it on a scale? You just stand on it with your a scale? You just stand on it with your a scale? You just stand on it with your feet or feet or feet or >> Yeah, with the uh the things you hold >> Yeah, with the uh the things you hold >> Yeah, with the uh the things you hold out on your side, the I don't know what out on your side, the I don't know what out on your side, the I don't know what they're called. they're called. they're called. >> Get get a DEXA scan just to get a more >> Get get a DEXA scan just to get a more >> Get get a DEXA scan just to get a more accurate reading. Uh, first of all, accurate reading. Uh, first of all, accurate reading. Uh, first of all, >> uh, number two, uh, if you were to lose >> uh, number two, uh, if you were to lose >> uh, number two, uh, if you were to lose 20 to 30 pounds of muscle, do you know 20 to 30 pounds of muscle, do you know 20 to 30 pounds of muscle, do you know what that is? what that is? what that is? >> That's illness. >> That's illness. >> That's illness. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's illness, honey. Like, like if you >> That's illness, honey. Like, like if you >> That's illness, honey. Like, like if you if you targeted that doing that, what if you targeted that doing that, what if you targeted that doing that, what you would do to your health would be you would do to your health would be you would do to your health would be >> catastrophic, >> catastrophic, >> catastrophic, >> detrimental. >> detrimental. >> detrimental. >> That's catastrophic muscle loss. That's >> That's catastrophic muscle loss. That's >> That's catastrophic muscle loss. That's like if you're bedridden like if you're bedridden like if you're bedridden >> because you're super sick uh and you're >> because you're super sick uh and you're >> because you're super sick uh and you're and you literally can't move for a month and you literally can't move for a month and you literally can't move for a month or longer. That's what that would look or longer. That's what that would look or longer. That's what that would look like. Okay. So that's uh that's like. Okay. So that's uh that's like. Okay. So that's uh that's catastrophic in terms of your health. So catastrophic in terms of your health. So catastrophic in terms of your health. So not a good idea. The real question I not a good idea. The real question I not a good idea. The real question I want to ask you is why do you want to do want to ask you is why do you want to do want to ask you is why do you want to do tell me why you want to do a bikini tell me why you want to do a bikini tell me why you want to do a bikini contest and tell me about your fitness contest and tell me about your fitness contest and tell me about your fitness background, athletic background, like background, athletic background, like background, athletic background, like what have you done in the past and then what have you done in the past and then what have you done in the past and then what's leading you to say I want to do a what's leading you to say I want to do a what's leading you to say I want to do a bikini contest. bikini contest. bikini contest. >> Sure. Um I was a runner um for I don't >> Sure. Um I was a runner um for I don't >> Sure. Um I was a runner um for I don't know probably about 10 years. ran a few know probably about 10 years. ran a few know probably about 10 years. ran a few half marathons and then really I picked half marathons and then really I picked half marathons and then really I picked up running like as a form of weight up running like as a form of weight up running like as a form of weight management. Um but then I honestly I management. Um but then I honestly I management. Um but then I honestly I stopped kind of caring a lot about my stopped kind of caring a lot about my stopped kind of caring a lot about my weight. So I was like well I don't care weight. So I was like well I don't care weight. So I was like well I don't care about my weight why am I running? about my weight why am I running? about my weight why am I running? >> Um so I stopped running and then kind of >> Um so I stopped running and then kind of >> Um so I stopped running and then kind of switched over to weightlifting. Um so switched over to weightlifting. Um so switched over to weightlifting. Um so yeah been doing weightlifting for two yeah been doing weightlifting for two yeah been doing weightlifting for two years but before the two years yeah just years but before the two years yeah just years but before the two years yeah just kind of been running kind of been running kind of been running >> okay >> okay >> okay >> for most of my life and then you know in >> for most of my life and then you know in >> for most of my life and then you know in high school did lots of random sports. high school did lots of random sports. high school did lots of random sports. So, and then as far as why I wanted to So, and then as far as why I wanted to So, and then as far as why I wanted to be a bikini competitor, um yeah, I guess be a bikini competitor, um yeah, I guess be a bikini competitor, um yeah, I guess when I was like six, yeah, at 6 months I when I was like six, yeah, at 6 months I when I was like six, yeah, at 6 months I was 6 months pregnant and I was thinking was 6 months pregnant and I was thinking was 6 months pregnant and I was thinking this is like terrible. I would like to this is like terrible. I would like to this is like terrible. I would like to be be be um I just decided to set this goal so um I just decided to set this goal so um I just decided to set this goal so that like it would be I thought it would that like it would be I thought it would that like it would be I thought it would be fun to be like incredibly like be fun to be like incredibly like be fun to be like incredibly like challenge my body, right? Um like see challenge my body, right? Um like see challenge my body, right? Um like see how how lean I could get. And I am how how lean I could get. And I am how how lean I could get. And I am totally planning on not staying that totally planning on not staying that totally planning on not staying that lean. This is more like a a bucket list lean. This is more like a a bucket list lean. This is more like a a bucket list kind of item, you know, check it off and kind of item, you know, check it off and kind of item, you know, check it off and then go back to like a healthy body fat then go back to like a healthy body fat then go back to like a healthy body fat percentage after that and just percentage after that and just percentage after that and just maintenance for the rest of my life. maintenance for the rest of my life. maintenance for the rest of my life. >> Okay. Bikini would be the worst thing >> Okay. Bikini would be the worst thing >> Okay. Bikini would be the worst thing that that you you you could do uh in that that you you you could do uh in that that you you you could do uh in that pursuit. Um so bikini is inc is that pursuit. Um so bikini is inc is that pursuit. Um so bikini is inc is massively massively massively uh body focused, body conscious, body uh body focused, body conscious, body uh body focused, body conscious, body obsessive. Um it it's not a healthy obsessive. Um it it's not a healthy obsessive. Um it it's not a healthy pursuit. Uh the only time that I'm okay pursuit. Uh the only time that I'm okay pursuit. Uh the only time that I'm okay with people doing it is when it's like with people doing it is when it's like with people doing it is when it's like their favorite sport in the world. Uh their favorite sport in the world. Uh their favorite sport in the world. Uh and they also have a healthy um you know and they also have a healthy um you know and they also have a healthy um you know body image uh and healthy relationship body image uh and healthy relationship body image uh and healthy relationship to food and all that stuff. Uh typically to food and all that stuff. Uh typically to food and all that stuff. Uh typically if someone's like hey I just want to use if someone's like hey I just want to use if someone's like hey I just want to use it as a goal then I would say get rid of it as a goal then I would say get rid of it as a goal then I would say get rid of competing and just have the goal of competing and just have the goal of competing and just have the goal of improving your overall fitness. improving your overall fitness. improving your overall fitness. >> Um according to your body fat percentage >> Um according to your body fat percentage >> Um according to your body fat percentage scale you carry a good amount of lean scale you carry a good amount of lean scale you carry a good amount of lean body mass. That's phenomenal. Like you body mass. That's phenomenal. Like you body mass. That's phenomenal. Like you want that. How many calories? want that. How many calories? want that. How many calories? >> Keep that. That's amazing. >> Keep that. That's amazing. >> Keep that. That's amazing. >> Do you know how many calories you're >> Do you know how many calories you're >> Do you know how many calories you're eating on a daily basis eating on a daily basis eating on a daily basis >> in my cut? Yeah, I'm at 1,800. I think >> in my cut? Yeah, I'm at 1,800. I think >> in my cut? Yeah, I'm at 1,800. I think my maintenance is about 2400. my maintenance is about 2400. my maintenance is about 2400. >> Okay. I I I would like I would rather >> Okay. I I I would like I would rather >> Okay. I I I would like I would rather see you build into getting leaner than see you build into getting leaner than see you build into getting leaner than trying to cut into getting leaner. So, trying to cut into getting leaner. So, trying to cut into getting leaner. So, focus on getting stronger. Focus on your focus on getting stronger. Focus on your focus on getting stronger. Focus on your strength training. Um keep your calories strength training. Um keep your calories strength training. Um keep your calories probably around 24 2500 and just let probably around 24 2500 and just let probably around 24 2500 and just let your body composition. You're only 6 your body composition. You're only 6 your body composition. You're only 6 months postpartum. Uh how many kids you months postpartum. Uh how many kids you months postpartum. Uh how many kids you have? Is this uh number one? two kids. have? Is this uh number one? two kids. have? Is this uh number one? two kids. So, you know that it takes a while to So, you know that it takes a while to So, you know that it takes a while to really fully feel like yourself uh after really fully feel like yourself uh after really fully feel like yourself uh after having a kid. having a kid. having a kid. >> So, right now, I wouldn't even focus >> So, right now, I wouldn't even focus >> So, right now, I wouldn't even focus hardcore on any goal. I would just keep hardcore on any goal. I would just keep hardcore on any goal. I would just keep doing what you're doing and let your doing what you're doing and let your doing what you're doing and let your body composition start to change. But body composition start to change. But body composition start to change. But you've got some great lean body mass on. you've got some great lean body mass on. you've got some great lean body mass on. I'm assuming you're pretty strong. I'm assuming you're pretty strong. I'm assuming you're pretty strong. >> Uh well, listening to some of the people >> Uh well, listening to some of the people >> Uh well, listening to some of the people that call into you, I don't think I'm that call into you, I don't think I'm that call into you, I don't think I'm that strong. So, that strong. So, that strong. So, >> tell me about your tell me about like >> tell me about your tell me about like >> tell me about your tell me about like your squat, your deadlift, your presses. your squat, your deadlift, your presses. your squat, your deadlift, your presses. >> Well, yeah, the they all need work. So, >> Well, yeah, the they all need work. So, >> Well, yeah, the they all need work. So, uh, I'm not a very good squatter. I just uh, I'm not a very good squatter. I just uh, I'm not a very good squatter. I just started doing barbell squats because of, started doing barbell squats because of, started doing barbell squats because of, you know, since listening to you guys. you know, since listening to you guys. you know, since listening to you guys. So, like, and really the only time I've So, like, and really the only time I've So, like, and really the only time I've squatted barbell squats is when I'm in a squatted barbell squats is when I'm in a squatted barbell squats is when I'm in a cut. So, like 60 lbs. cut. So, like 60 lbs. cut. So, like 60 lbs. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Squatting. >> Squatting. >> Squatting. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. You you're you'll be way >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. You you're you'll be way >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. You you're you'll be way better served for us to really uh So, in better served for us to really uh So, in better served for us to really uh So, in the weightlifting world, then you're the weightlifting world, then you're the weightlifting world, then you're still kind of in your infancy. And so still kind of in your infancy. And so still kind of in your infancy. And so there's so much more potential for your there's so much more potential for your there's so much more potential for your body body body >> to focus on building and sculpting that >> to focus on building and sculpting that >> to focus on building and sculpting that way versus trying to cut and carve down. way versus trying to cut and carve down. way versus trying to cut and carve down. >> You'll get way more out of that. And you >> You'll get way more out of that. And you >> You'll get way more out of that. And you where you're at lean body mass, I'll where you're at lean body mass, I'll where you're at lean body mass, I'll tell you one of the reasons why you're tell you one of the reasons why you're tell you one of the reasons why you're even though I think S's right with the even though I think S's right with the even though I think S's right with the Dexican get something that's more Dexican get something that's more Dexican get something that's more accurate. But why you saw the the muscle accurate. But why you saw the the muscle accurate. But why you saw the the muscle loss like that is the amount of lean loss like that is the amount of lean loss like that is the amount of lean body mass that you have on your body. body mass that you have on your body. body mass that you have on your body. Your body needs more calories to sustain Your body needs more calories to sustain Your body needs more calories to sustain that muscle. and putting yourself at an that muscle. and putting yourself at an that muscle. and putting yourself at an 1,800 calories and then also doing all 1,800 calories and then also doing all 1,800 calories and then also doing all this activity, your body's like, "Oh, we this activity, your body's like, "Oh, we this activity, your body's like, "Oh, we can't have all this muscle." So, it can't have all this muscle." So, it can't have all this muscle." So, it paired it down. It needs more than that. paired it down. It needs more than that. paired it down. It needs more than that. Someone with as much lean body mass as Someone with as much lean body mass as Someone with as much lean body mass as you, we would probably be up in 3,000 you, we would probably be up in 3,000 you, we would probably be up in 3,000 calorie range. And so, in order for you calorie range. And so, in order for you calorie range. And so, in order for you to get there without putting on a bunch to get there without putting on a bunch to get there without putting on a bunch of body fat, we need to get strong in of body fat, we need to get strong in of body fat, we need to get strong in the gym and start really pushing the the gym and start really pushing the the gym and start really pushing the weights. So getting strong in your weights. So getting strong in your weights. So getting strong in your squat, getting strong in your deadlift, squat, getting strong in your deadlift, squat, getting strong in your deadlift, getting strong in your rows, getting getting strong in your rows, getting getting strong in your rows, getting strong in your overhead press. That strong in your overhead press. That strong in your overhead press. That should be the main focus while being should be the main focus while being should be the main focus while being fed, while feeding yourself a good fed, while feeding yourself a good fed, while feeding yourself a good amount of calories. And I really don't amount of calories. And I really don't amount of calories. And I really don't care about the scale weight right now. care about the scale weight right now. care about the scale weight right now. It would be get strong and build your It would be get strong and build your It would be get strong and build your metabolism and build muscle that will metabolism and build muscle that will metabolism and build muscle that will get put you in a place. So, if I was get put you in a place. So, if I was get put you in a place. So, if I was coaching you and this was our goal, even coaching you and this was our goal, even coaching you and this was our goal, even if if I could convince you to not get on if if I could convince you to not get on if if I could convince you to not get on stage, but I said, "Hey, I'll build that stage, but I said, "Hey, I'll build that stage, but I said, "Hey, I'll build that bikini body you're you're you're going bikini body you're you're you're going bikini body you're you're you're going after, but let's do this the right way." after, but let's do this the right way." after, but let's do this the right way." And what that would look like is you and And what that would look like is you and And what that would look like is you and I not really worrying about where your I not really worrying about where your I not really worrying about where your weight on the scale is right now. Let's weight on the scale is right now. Let's weight on the scale is right now. Let's go build your metabolism. Let's go get go build your metabolism. Let's go get go build your metabolism. Let's go get you to where you're eating 3,3200 you to where you're eating 3,3200 you to where you're eating 3,3200 calories. You're squatting 150 to 180 calories. You're squatting 150 to 180 calories. You're squatting 150 to 180 lbs. You're deadlifting 150 180. Like lbs. You're deadlifting 150 180. Like lbs. You're deadlifting 150 180. Like then when and you're sustaining that then when and you're sustaining that then when and you're sustaining that your your weight is staying the same. your your weight is staying the same. your your weight is staying the same. You're eating 3,200 calories. You're You're eating 3,200 calories. You're You're eating 3,200 calories. You're strong as [ __ ] in the gym. Now I go, strong as [ __ ] in the gym. Now I go, strong as [ __ ] in the gym. Now I go, "Okay, now we can start to bring you "Okay, now we can start to bring you "Okay, now we can start to bring you down, Faith. Now I'm going to bring you down, Faith. Now I'm going to bring you down, Faith. Now I'm going to bring you down to 2,800 calories." And then watch down to 2,800 calories." And then watch down to 2,800 calories." And then watch what happens. You just lean out. And what happens. You just lean out. And what happens. You just lean out. And when you keep your muscle, you just drop when you keep your muscle, you just drop when you keep your muscle, you just drop body fat from that place. And we do that body fat from that place. And we do that body fat from that place. And we do that nice and slow. That's how you get ready nice and slow. That's how you get ready nice and slow. That's how you get ready for that. Build that look that you're for that. Build that look that you're for that. Build that look that you're that a bikini competitor would have. that a bikini competitor would have. that a bikini competitor would have. Going from where you're at now leads you Going from where you're at now leads you Going from where you're at now leads you to a road of 1,800 calories. You might to a road of 1,800 calories. You might to a road of 1,800 calories. You might lose a couple pounds. Body plateaus. lose a couple pounds. Body plateaus. lose a couple pounds. Body plateaus. Then what do you do? Pick up more Then what do you do? Pick up more Then what do you do? Pick up more activity and drop calories to 1500 activity and drop calories to 1500 activity and drop calories to 1500 calories. Then you lose a couple more calories. Then you lose a couple more calories. Then you lose a couple more pound. And then you plateau. And then pound. And then you plateau. And then pound. And then you plateau. And then it's like eventually you and I are it's like eventually you and I are it's like eventually you and I are eating,00 calories and you're still eating,00 calories and you're still eating,00 calories and you're still >> And you're working out like crazy. >> And you're working out like crazy. >> And you're working out like crazy. >> Yeah. Yeah. And you're and you're >> Yeah. Yeah. And you're and you're >> Yeah. Yeah. And you're and you're terrible. Yeah. It's it's terrible. That terrible. Yeah. It's it's terrible. That terrible. Yeah. It's it's terrible. That but that's the only where we're coming but that's the only where we're coming but that's the only where we're coming from right now. That's the only pathway from right now. That's the only pathway from right now. That's the only pathway to get down to that kind of weight. to get down to that kind of weight. to get down to that kind of weight. >> And just to encourage you, doing this >> And just to encourage you, doing this >> And just to encourage you, doing this the right way, the look that you're the right way, the look that you're the right way, the look that you're looking for, you're going to get. looking for, you're going to get. looking for, you're going to get. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're going to look sculpted. You'll >> You're going to look sculpted. You'll >> You're going to look sculpted. You'll have good shape because you have good have good shape because you have good have good shape because you have good muscle on your body. You're going to muscle on your body. You're going to muscle on your body. You're going to you're going to be you're going to look you're going to be you're going to look you're going to be you're going to look phenomenal. The scale is your enemy. So, phenomenal. The scale is your enemy. So, phenomenal. The scale is your enemy. So, anytime I work with a woman who has anytime I work with a woman who has anytime I work with a woman who has really good muscle building genetics, really good muscle building genetics, really good muscle building genetics, the scale can mess with them because the scale can mess with them because the scale can mess with them because they look a particular way, but the they look a particular way, but the they look a particular way, but the scale says something else. Uh, and so, scale says something else. Uh, and so, scale says something else. Uh, and so, uh, because lean body mass looks uh, because lean body mass looks uh, because lean body mass looks different than body fat. It looks different than body fat. It looks different than body fat. It looks sculpted. It looks firm. You look like sculpted. It looks firm. You look like sculpted. It looks firm. You look like you've got nice curve and great shape. you've got nice curve and great shape. you've got nice curve and great shape. And the scale can look like, oh, well, And the scale can look like, oh, well, And the scale can look like, oh, well, this looks like, in fact, people would this looks like, in fact, people would this looks like, in fact, people would guess you're a lot lighter than what the guess you're a lot lighter than what the guess you're a lot lighter than what the scale says is probably what's going to scale says is probably what's going to scale says is probably what's going to happen. But you've got this roaring happen. But you've got this roaring happen. But you've got this roaring metabolism. You're strong. You're metabolism. You're strong. You're metabolism. You're strong. You're sculpted. You know, everything feels sculpted. You know, everything feels sculpted. You know, everything feels really good. And so, that's the really good. And so, that's the really good. And so, that's the direction you want to go. I if your if direction you want to go. I if your if direction you want to go. I if your if your numbers are correct also, I'll tell your numbers are correct also, I'll tell your numbers are correct also, I'll tell you uh and not that I think you should you uh and not that I think you should you uh and not that I think you should compare yourself to anybody, but uh compare yourself to anybody, but uh compare yourself to anybody, but uh you're you're built more like a figure you're you're built more like a figure you're you're built more like a figure competitor than you are a bikini competitor than you are a bikini competitor than you are a bikini competitor. Also, competitor. Also, competitor. Also, >> I want Yeah, I was curious about that. >> I want Yeah, I was curious about that. >> I want Yeah, I was curious about that. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I I know by your >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I I know by your >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I I know by your numbers. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're you're numbers. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're you're numbers. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're you're tall and you have a lot of muscle. tall and you have a lot of muscle. tall and you have a lot of muscle. You're you're I my my ex was is carried You're you're I my my ex was is carried You're you're I my my ex was is carried herself at 57 to She was 5'7. Walked herself at 57 to She was 5'7. Walked herself at 57 to She was 5'7. Walked around at 175 180 in the offse. When she around at 175 180 in the offse. When she around at 175 180 in the offse. When she hit stage, she was like 160, 170. hit stage, she was like 160, 170. hit stage, she was like 160, 170. >> And for figure. >> And for figure. >> And for figure. >> Yeah. For figure. Yeah. Cuz she had a >> Yeah. For figure. Yeah. Cuz she had a >> Yeah. For figure. Yeah. Cuz she had a lot of lean body mass. So, so she had a lot of lean body mass. So, so she had a lot of lean body mass. So, so she had a And she was tall and had a lot of lean And she was tall and had a lot of lean And she was tall and had a lot of lean body mass. So, you're built more body mass. So, you're built more body mass. So, you're built more >> like she was than my bikini. Yeah. It's >> like she was than my bikini. Yeah. It's >> like she was than my bikini. Yeah. It's an awesome gift. an awesome gift. an awesome gift. >> This is a great blessing. >> This is a great blessing. >> This is a great blessing. >> Are you open to working with a coach to >> Are you open to working with a coach to >> Are you open to working with a coach to hiring a coach? hiring a coach? hiring a coach? >> Oh, yeah. That was Yeah, that was a >> Oh, yeah. That was Yeah, that was a >> Oh, yeah. That was Yeah, that was a plan. I knew I was going to have to hire plan. I knew I was going to have to hire plan. I knew I was going to have to hire a coach sometime, right, to get to meet a coach sometime, right, to get to meet a coach sometime, right, to get to meet my goals. my goals. my goals. >> Let me do this because we have really >> Let me do this because we have really >> Let me do this because we have really good coaches. They've got great like good coaches. They've got great like good coaches. They've got great like they're they're me they're going to keep they're they're me they're going to keep they're they're me they're going to keep you healthy, make sure you do the right you healthy, make sure you do the right you healthy, make sure you do the right things. So, I'm going to have somebody things. So, I'm going to have somebody things. So, I'm going to have somebody reach out to you and then you can work reach out to you and then you can work reach out to you and then you can work with them through this process and with them through this process and with them through this process and you're probably going to start in a you're probably going to start in a you're probably going to start in a reverse diet. reverse diet. reverse diet. >> That's what they'll do. What I told you >> That's what they'll do. What I told you >> That's what they'll do. What I told you first. Your first goal is to do set the first. Your first goal is to do set the first. Your first goal is to do set the I I tell competitors all the time, I I tell competitors all the time, I I tell competitors all the time, trained a ton of competitors, the the trained a ton of competitors, the the trained a ton of competitors, the the you're you the se when you win the you're you the se when you win the you're you the se when you win the figure, it's in the offseason. It's in figure, it's in the offseason. It's in figure, it's in the offseason. It's in the building the metabolism, building the building the metabolism, building the building the metabolism, building the muscle, building the body. When you the muscle, building the body. When you the muscle, building the body. When you cut for the show, that's just revealing cut for the show, that's just revealing cut for the show, that's just revealing all the hard work you did in the off all the hard work you did in the off all the hard work you did in the off season. It's not like cut from here and season. It's not like cut from here and season. It's not like cut from here and then go get up on stage. Like, no, it's then go get up on stage. Like, no, it's then go get up on stage. Like, no, it's what you the work you put into building what you the work you put into building what you the work you put into building muscle, building your metabolism. That's muscle, building your metabolism. That's muscle, building your metabolism. That's what will determine how how successful what will determine how how successful what will determine how how successful you are at this. you are at this. you are at this. >> So, and they'll do all that with you. >> So, and they'll do all that with you. >> So, and they'll do all that with you. >> Okay, perfect. And then I was I've been >> Okay, perfect. And then I was I've been >> Okay, perfect. And then I was I've been waiting to buy one of your programs waiting to buy one of your programs waiting to buy one of your programs until I talk to you. So, maybe is it until I talk to you. So, maybe is it until I talk to you. So, maybe is it maps anabolic? Is that where you guys maps anabolic? Is that where you guys maps anabolic? Is that where you guys >> They'll set you up on all that. So, if >> They'll set you up on all that. So, if >> They'll set you up on all that. So, if you work with a coach, they'll give that you work with a coach, they'll give that you work with a coach, they'll give that to you and they'll give you our programs to you and they'll give you our programs to you and they'll give you our programs and we'll individualize it. It's like and we'll individualize it. It's like and we'll individualize it. It's like you can't get better than that. So, you can't get better than that. So, you can't get better than that. So, >> okay, sweet. Well, thanks guys. >> okay, sweet. Well, thanks guys. >> okay, sweet. Well, thanks guys. >> You got it, Faith. Thanks for calling >> You got it, Faith. Thanks for calling >> You got it, Faith. Thanks for calling in. in. in. >> All right, take it easy. >> All right, take it easy. >> All right, take it easy. >> Yeah. I mean, imagine uh like she's >> Yeah. I mean, imagine uh like she's >> Yeah. I mean, imagine uh like she's like, "Oh, I got to lose 20 pounds of like, "Oh, I got to lose 20 pounds of like, "Oh, I got to lose 20 pounds of muscle to get on stage." Oh my god. muscle to get on stage." Oh my god. muscle to get on stage." Oh my god. >> Oh, no. Don't do that. >> Oh, no. Don't do that. >> Oh, no. Don't do that. >> Glad she called in. For sure. >> Glad she called in. For sure. >> Glad she called in. For sure. >> You got to make yourself sick to lose >> You got to make yourself sick to lose >> You got to make yourself sick to lose that much muscle, you know? Uh that much muscle, you know? Uh that much muscle, you know? Uh essentially. Um but it would be a essentially. Um but it would be a essentially. Um but it would be a terrible approach. terrible approach. terrible approach. >> Yeah. You don't want to do that. No, no, >> Yeah. You don't want to do that. No, no, >> Yeah. You don't want to do that. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. No, not at all. But no, no, no. Yeah. No, not at all. But no, no, no. Yeah. No, not at all. But which is great that we got to hold her which is great that we got to hold her which is great that we got to hold her right now. right now. right now. >> If she has that, if her numbers are even >> If she has that, if her numbers are even >> If she has that, if her numbers are even close to correct, uh that she has a lot close to correct, uh that she has a lot close to correct, uh that she has a lot of lean body mass and if she's only of lean body mass and if she's only of lean body mass and if she's only doing things like 60 lb squat, she has doing things like 60 lb squat, she has doing things like 60 lb squat, she has so much potential. so much potential. so much potential. >> Strength potentials to >> Strength potentials to >> Strength potentials to >> Oh, yeah. She's got a lot that new gains >> Oh, yeah. She's got a lot that new gains >> Oh, yeah. She's got a lot that new gains like total days. Yeah. Yeah. No, so like total days. Yeah. Yeah. No, so like total days. Yeah. Yeah. No, so that's the focus. that's the focus. that's the focus. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. Walking. If you did, check this one out. Walking. If you did, check this one out. Walking. It's one of the best things you could do It's one of the best things you could do It's one of the best things you could do for your health, bar none. But there's a for your health, bar none. But there's a for your health, bar none. But there's a better way to approach it. Yes, you can better way to approach it. Yes, you can better way to approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but if you follow the right just walk, but if you follow the right just walk, but if you follow the right protocol, it's far more effective. Let's protocol, it's far more effective. Let's protocol, it's far more effective. Let's talk about talk about talk about >> walking. I can't wait to hear your >> walking. I can't wait to hear your >> walking. I can't wait to hear your walking protocol. walking protocol. walking protocol. >> Well, there is Well, there is a >> Well, there is Well, there is a >> Well, there is Well, there is a protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the first thing, right? Cuz just first off, first thing, right? Cuz just first off, first thing, right? Cuz just first off, uh let me start with this. One of the uh let me start with this. One of the uh let me start with this. One of the reasons why walking um is such a great reasons why walking um is such a great reasons why walking um is such a great form of just activity is because it's form of just activity is because it's form of just activity is because it's low risk of injury. Now some