Steph Smith: “This opportunity is totally overlooked”

All right, Steph Smith's here. All right, Steph Smith's here. >> Steph is back and your whole thing is >> Steph is back and your whole thing is >> Steph is back and your whole thing is finding up and cominging trends. finding up and cominging trends. finding up and cominging trends. >> I call them gold mines. Some people just >> I call them gold mines. Some people just >> I call them gold mines. Some people just come back and show you a little piece of come back and show you a little piece of come back and show you a little piece of gold. Steph shows you where the mine is. gold. Steph shows you where the mine is. gold. Steph shows you where the mine is. >> We all run into these generation >> We all run into these generation >> We all run into these generation defining stats throughout our lives and defining stats throughout our lives and defining stats throughout our lives and most of us are just like, "Oh, that's most of us are just like, "Oh, that's most of us are just like, "Oh, that's cool." And so I compiled 100 plus of cool." And so I compiled 100 plus of cool." And so I compiled 100 plus of these. these. these. >> There's so many here. >> There's so many here. >> There's so many here. >> I love this one. Breakup cake. Nerd >> I love this one. Breakup cake. Nerd >> I love this one. Breakup cake. Nerd Neck. The Dyson mask. A search algorithm Neck. The Dyson mask. A search algorithm Neck. The Dyson mask. A search algorithm that was inspired by ants. that was inspired by ants. that was inspired by ants. >> I need to write this down. If you want >> I need to write this down. If you want >> I need to write this down. If you want to go down the rabbit hole, I think to go down the rabbit hole, I think to go down the rabbit hole, I think there's a there's a growing business there's a there's a growing business there's a there's a growing business here. We use this phrase one chart businesses We use this phrase one chart businesses because you just see this chart and it because you just see this chart and it because you just see this chart and it like you said, well there that thing's like you said, well there that thing's like you said, well there that thing's obvious just get into that industry. You obvious just get into that industry. You obvious just get into that industry. You have one here. You said in the uh in have one here. You said in the uh in have one here. You said in the uh in United States, the US Bureau of Labor United States, the US Bureau of Labor United States, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics predicts that nursing will be Statistics predicts that nursing will be Statistics predicts that nursing will be the fastest growing occupation between the fastest growing occupation between the fastest growing occupation between 2020 in 2030, growing in number by 2020 in 2030, growing in number by 2020 in 2030, growing in number by 275,000 275,000 275,000 uh jobs. That's insane. That's insane. uh jobs. That's insane. That's insane. uh jobs. That's insane. That's insane. Talk to me about this nursing thing. Talk to me about this nursing thing. Talk to me about this nursing thing. >> Yeah. Well, I mean again, it's like a >> Yeah. Well, I mean again, it's like a >> Yeah. Well, I mean again, it's like a pretty clear trend that comes with a pretty clear trend that comes with a pretty clear trend that comes with a bunch of people getting getting older. bunch of people getting getting older. bunch of people getting getting older. Like everyone's talking about AI and Like everyone's talking about AI and Like everyone's talking about AI and that's great. Um but what about the that's great. Um but what about the that's great. Um but what about the billions of people around the globe that billions of people around the globe that billions of people around the globe that are you know 65 plus that are just going are you know 65 plus that are just going are you know 65 plus that are just going to need physical human support. So to need physical human support. So to need physical human support. So nursing is one area. Also the the rest nursing is one area. Also the the rest nursing is one area. Also the the rest of that stat talks about in Japan the of that stat talks about in Japan the of that stat talks about in Japan the number of nursing homes has risen nearly number of nursing homes has risen nearly number of nursing homes has risen nearly 50% over the last decade. And Japan is 50% over the last decade. And Japan is 50% over the last decade. And Japan is interesting because it's kind of like interesting because it's kind of like interesting because it's kind of like this early case study where they've hit this early case study where they've hit this early case study where they've hit this silver tsunami a little earlier this silver tsunami a little earlier this silver tsunami a little earlier than uh a lot of other countries. than uh a lot of other countries. than uh a lot of other countries. >> Why Japan? I think they just hit the >> Why Japan? I think they just hit the >> Why Japan? I think they just hit the declining birth rate earlier than many declining birth rate earlier than many declining birth rate earlier than many other countries. And so, you know, other countries. And so, you know, other countries. And so, you know, another interesting, you could say it another interesting, you could say it another interesting, you could say it opportunity, maybe just an interesting opportunity, maybe just an interesting opportunity, maybe just an interesting thing for individuals to explore. But thing for individuals to explore. But thing for individuals to explore. But because Japan hit the like silver because Japan hit the like silver because Japan hit the like silver tsunami a little earlier, they have this tsunami a little earlier, they have this tsunami a little earlier, they have this interesting thing where they're giving interesting thing where they're giving interesting thing where they're giving away free houses or super cheap houses, away free houses or super cheap houses, away free houses or super cheap houses, sometimes free. They're called a K I Y sometimes free. They're called a K I Y sometimes free. They're called a K I Y A. I was in Japan this summer and we did A. I was in Japan this summer and we did A. I was in Japan this summer and we did a walking tour and they took us around a walking tour and they took us around a walking tour and they took us around and they were showing us these houses and they were showing us these houses and they were showing us these houses and they're like, "See this house?" And and they're like, "See this house?" And and they're like, "See this house?" And it was like in the middle of Osaka. It it was like in the middle of Osaka. It it was like in the middle of Osaka. It was a little rundown for sure, but they was a little rundown for sure, but they was a little rundown for sure, but they were like, "This this house is free." were like, "This this house is free." were like, "This this house is free." And we were like, "What do you what do And we were like, "What do you what do And we were like, "What do you what do you mean?" But because there's so many you mean?" But because there's so many you mean?" But because there's so many of these people who have grown old of these people who have grown old of these people who have grown old unfortunately passed away and then unfortunately passed away and then unfortunately passed away and then there's also some social aspects of the there's also some social aspects of the there's also some social aspects of the aas where in some cases not all because aas where in some cases not all because aas where in some cases not all because Japanese people really care about Japanese people really care about Japanese people really care about status. If let's say they grew up in a status. If let's say they grew up in a status. If let's say they grew up in a poor neighborhood, their parents passed poor neighborhood, their parents passed poor neighborhood, their parents passed away and then they've moved into you away and then they've moved into you away and then they've moved into you know a different social strata they know a different social strata they know a different social strata they don't want to claim the house because don't want to claim the house because don't want to claim the house because they're like I don't want to be they're like I don't want to be they're like I don't want to be associated with that neighborhood. And associated with that neighborhood. And associated with that neighborhood. And there's over there's tons of articles on there's over there's tons of articles on there's over there's tons of articles on this over 8 million AKAS that are being this over 8 million AKAS that are being this over 8 million AKAS that are being given away by the government um or again given away by the government um or again given away by the government um or again sometimes for very cheap. sometimes for very cheap. sometimes for very cheap. >> So well have you heard the uh the theory >> So well have you heard the uh the theory >> So well have you heard the uh the theory about Osaka and how a lot of people are about Osaka and how a lot of people are about Osaka and how a lot of people are lying about their age. lying about their age. lying about their age. >> Oh yeah, the Blue Zones and how >> Oh yeah, the Blue Zones and how >> Oh yeah, the Blue Zones and how >> Yeah, there's a book called The Blue >> Yeah, there's a book called The Blue >> Yeah, there's a book called The Blue Zones. And basically like I read it 10 Zones. And basically like I read it 10 Zones. And basically like I read it 10 years ago or something and I was like years ago or something and I was like years ago or something and I was like this is my Bible for like living a long this is my Bible for like living a long this is my Bible for like living a long healthy life. But the idea is that healthy life. But the idea is that healthy life. But the idea is that someone studied Osaka's population and someone studied Osaka's population and someone studied Osaka's population and they found that too many people claim to they found that too many people claim to they found that too many people claim to have the same birth date in Osaka to the have the same birth date in Osaka to the have the same birth date in Osaka to the point where the only way that this could point where the only way that this could point where the only way that this could be possibly true is if many of them be possibly true is if many of them be possibly true is if many of them committed fraud in order to say that committed fraud in order to say that committed fraud in order to say that they are of a certain age so they can they are of a certain age so they can they are of a certain age so they can start receiving social security and start receiving social security and start receiving social security and other like benefits that you get when other like benefits that you get when other like benefits that you get when you hit a certain age. And so it you hit a certain age. And so it you hit a certain age. And so it potentially puts a lot of like this idea potentially puts a lot of like this idea potentially puts a lot of like this idea of we study this particular population of we study this particular population of we study this particular population for old health or you know old people for old health or you know old people for old health or you know old people and like looking at like wow they're so and like looking at like wow they're so and like looking at like wow they're so healthy when they're just liars and healthy when they're just liars and healthy when they're just liars and they're actually a lot younger they're a they're actually a lot younger they're a they're actually a lot younger they're a lot younger potentially than they've lot younger potentially than they've lot younger potentially than they've said they are. What are some other stats said they are. What are some other stats said they are. What are some other stats about this? I love I love talking to you about this? I love I love talking to you about this? I love I love talking to you because you just have like you actually because you just have like you actually because you just have like you actually have the data and the stats instead of have the data and the stats instead of have the data and the stats instead of just like guessing. Um, okay. So, we just like guessing. Um, okay. So, we just like guessing. Um, okay. So, we didn't really drill down as much on the didn't really drill down as much on the didn't really drill down as much on the I mean, you talked about nursing homes I mean, you talked about nursing homes I mean, you talked about nursing homes and assisted living. So, let me give you and assisted living. So, let me give you and assisted living. So, let me give you one more from um Numlock, which by the one more from um Numlock, which by the one more from um Numlock, which by the way is a great newsletter. Walt Hickey way is a great newsletter. Walt Hickey way is a great newsletter. Walt Hickey runs it and um people I feel like MFM runs it and um people I feel like MFM runs it and um people I feel like MFM listeners would love it. It's great cuz listeners would love it. It's great cuz listeners would love it. It's great cuz you talk about these one chart you talk about these one chart you talk about these one chart businesses. I've done a thread on businesses. I've done a thread on businesses. I've done a thread on something similar and I call them something similar and I call them something similar and I call them digits, but he calls them just numbers, digits, but he calls them just numbers, digits, but he calls them just numbers, right? So basically every single day right? So basically every single day right? So basically every single day actually he sends a newsletter of maybe actually he sends a newsletter of maybe actually he sends a newsletter of maybe five or so different just small five or so different just small five or so different just small paragraphs and each paragraph has just paragraphs and each paragraph has just paragraphs and each paragraph has just like one statistic. And I like his like one statistic. And I like his like one statistic. And I like his because some of them are really because some of them are really because some of them are really important like you know the silver important like you know the silver important like you know the silver tsunami and how that's going to impact tsunami and how that's going to impact tsunami and how that's going to impact things much greater than ourselves. But things much greater than ourselves. But things much greater than ourselves. But then sometimes it's like there's this then sometimes it's like there's this then sometimes it's like there's this random gerbil that it has infested homes random gerbil that it has infested homes random gerbil that it has infested homes in South Carolina or something like in South Carolina or something like in South Carolina or something like that. that. that. >> This is awesome. >> This is awesome. >> This is awesome. >> Yeah. um he sent this paragraph about >> Yeah. um he sent this paragraph about >> Yeah. um he sent this paragraph about assisted living. So let me just read assisted living. So let me just read assisted living. So let me just read this out. This is directly from NumLock. this out. This is directly from NumLock. this out. This is directly from NumLock. From 2004 to 2021, the median annual From 2004 to 2021, the median annual From 2004 to 2021, the median annual price of assisted living increased 31% price of assisted living increased 31% price of assisted living increased 31% faster than inflation and has hit faster than inflation and has hit faster than inflation and has hit $54,000 per year. This is the crazy stat $54,000 per year. This is the crazy stat $54,000 per year. This is the crazy stat to me. There are 31,000 assisted living to me. There are 31,000 assisted living to me. There are 31,000 assisted living facilities in the United States. Four facilities in the United States. Four facilities in the United States. Four out of every five are run as forprofits out of every five are run as forprofits out of every five are run as forprofits and half of all the operators in the and half of all the operators in the and half of all the operators in the industry are clearing annual returns of industry are clearing annual returns of industry are clearing annual returns of 20% or more than it costs to operate. 20% or more than it costs to operate. 20% or more than it costs to operate. With 850,000 older Americans living With 850,000 older Americans living With 850,000 older Americans living within assisted living, the rents are within assisted living, the rents are within assisted living, the rents are getting jacked up. getting jacked up. getting jacked up. >> So, I don't actually know how assisted >> So, I don't actually know how assisted >> So, I don't actually know how assisted living businesses are valued. Like is it living businesses are valued. Like is it living businesses are valued. Like is it considered like a real estate valuation considered like a real estate valuation considered like a real estate valuation where it's just like a a way to finance where it's just like a a way to finance where it's just like a a way to finance or pay for real estate or is it or pay for real estate or is it or pay for real estate or is it considered like a proper operating considered like a proper operating considered like a proper operating business? Like I guess you know how like business? Like I guess you know how like business? Like I guess you know how like hotels are classified as real estate. I hotels are classified as real estate. I hotels are classified as real estate. I I would assume that's the that's the I would assume that's the that's the I would assume that's the that's the case of which 20% is is fantastic. If case of which 20% is is fantastic. If case of which 20% is is fantastic. If 20% were operating profit on a on a 20% were operating profit on a on a 20% were operating profit on a on a proper like uh like internet business, proper like uh like internet business, proper like uh like internet business, that's not that great. But if it's on that's not that great. But if it's on that's not that great. But if it's on real estate, that's really great. real estate, that's really great. real estate, that's really great. However, when I read this, I think, However, when I read this, I think, However, when I read this, I think, "Yeah, that's lucrative. I don't want to "Yeah, that's lucrative. I don't want to "Yeah, that's lucrative. I don't want to operate this. This sounds like the worst operate this. This sounds like the worst operate this. This sounds like the worst thing ever. You'd have a funeral a day. thing ever. You'd have a funeral a day. thing ever. You'd have a funeral a day. I would love to invest in a nursing home I would love to invest in a nursing home I would love to invest in a nursing home fund, but I would not want to operate a fund, but I would not want to operate a fund, but I would not want to operate a nursing home." nursing home." nursing home." >> Well, what I'll say is I mean, my I have >> Well, what I'll say is I mean, my I have >> Well, what I'll say is I mean, my I have parents that are getting older and parents that are getting older and parents that are getting older and there's also tons of assisted living for there's also tons of assisted living for there's also tons of assisted living for not just elderly, right? People with not just elderly, right? People with not just elderly, right? People with mental illness or who need other mental illness or who need other mental illness or who need other support. And I think what I've seen from support. And I think what I've seen from support. And I think what I've seen from like exploring the space anecdotally is like exploring the space anecdotally is like exploring the space anecdotally is that most of the options really suck as that most of the options really suck as that most of the options really suck as in like you you don't really feel great in like you you don't really feel great in like you you don't really feel great about sending your parent or loved one about sending your parent or loved one about sending your parent or loved one to these places. And so I I haven't to these places. And so I I haven't to these places. And so I I haven't explored this deeply enough. This might explored this deeply enough. This might explored this deeply enough. This might exist. So if if folks are listening and exist. So if if folks are listening and exist. So if if folks are listening and and they know of this, I would love to and they know of this, I would love to and they know of this, I would love to hear about it. But like imagine the the hear about it. But like imagine the the hear about it. But like imagine the the premium version of assisted living where premium version of assisted living where premium version of assisted living where you feel really really good about you feel really really good about you feel really really good about sending your grandparent, your mom, your sending your grandparent, your mom, your sending your grandparent, your mom, your sister, whatever it is to one of these sister, whatever it is to one of these sister, whatever it is to one of these places. And obviously the you know the places. And obviously the you know the places. And obviously the you know the price would have to go way up. Um but price would have to go way up. Um but price would have to go way up. Um but people are already like this stat is people are already like this stat is people are already like this stat is saying they're spending $54,000 per year saying they're spending $54,000 per year saying they're spending $54,000 per year as the average. And so you know for the as the average. And so you know for the as the average. And so you know for the wealthy like wouldn't you pay five times wealthy like wouldn't you pay five times wealthy like wouldn't you pay five times that to send your loved one to something that to send your loved one to something that to send your loved one to something a lot better? a lot better? a lot better? >> Yeah. And I think people do like I I >> Yeah. And I think people do like I I >> Yeah. And I think people do like I I know people who have people in nursing know people who have people in nursing know people who have people in nursing homes and they spend 20 or $30,000 a homes and they spend 20 or $30,000 a homes and they spend 20 or $30,000 a month. It's insane. month. It's insane. month. It's insane. It It's absolutely insane. It It's absolutely insane. It It's absolutely insane. Okay, so you're 8 minutes into this Okay, so you're 8 minutes into this Okay, so you're 8 minutes into this episode and you already can tell that episode and you already can tell that episode and you already can tell that Steph's superpower is spotting Steph's superpower is spotting Steph's superpower is spotting generational defining trends. She has generational defining trends. She has generational defining trends. She has spent hours pulling the most surprising spent hours pulling the most surprising spent hours pulling the most surprising under the radar stats and data all for under the radar stats and data all for under the radar stats and data all for the purpose of basically uncovering the purpose of basically uncovering the purpose of basically uncovering interesting business ideas. She's put it interesting business ideas. She's put it interesting business ideas. She's put it all together in a thing called the all together in a thing called the all together in a thing called the digits database. And for you guys, the digits database. And for you guys, the digits database. And for you guys, the MFM audience, she has decided to give it MFM audience, she has decided to give it MFM audience, she has decided to give it away for free. And so if you want it, away for free. And so if you want it, away for free. And so if you want it, just click the link below in the just click the link below in the just click the link below in the description and grab it. All right, back description and grab it. All right, back description and grab it. All right, back to the show. What do you guys want to do next? What do you guys want to do next? >> Uh, let's do the sports one. What's the >> Uh, let's do the sports one. What's the >> Uh, let's do the sports one. What's the sports data thing? Okay, so there's this sports data thing? Okay, so there's this sports data thing? Okay, so there's this website that aggregates a bunch of website that aggregates a bunch of website that aggregates a bunch of reports on sports, which obviously reports on sports, which obviously reports on sports, which obviously people love. Americans love sports. So people love. Americans love sports. So people love. Americans love sports. So they have like a state of pickle ball they have like a state of pickle ball they have like a state of pickle ball report, uh, state of the industry report, uh, state of the industry report, uh, state of the industry report. I want you guys to guess what report. I want you guys to guess what report. I want you guys to guess what the fastest growing sports are. The 25 the fastest growing sports are. The 25 the fastest growing sports are. The 25 fastest growing sports according to this fastest growing sports according to this fastest growing sports according to this SFIA SFIA SFIA research, which is the sports and research, which is the sports and research, which is the sports and fitness industry association. What do fitness industry association. What do fitness industry association. What do you guys think were the top fastest you guys think were the top fastest you guys think were the top fastest growing sports in America? growing sports in America? growing sports in America? >> I already opened it and I could tell you >> I already opened it and I could tell you >> I already opened it and I could tell you I wouldn't have guessed one of them. I I wouldn't have guessed one of them. I I wouldn't have guessed one of them. I already opened it as well, so the game already opened it as well, so the game already opened it as well, so the game is over. Uh, but I would have said is over. Uh, but I would have said is over. Uh, but I would have said pickle ball and and I would have said pickle ball and and I would have said pickle ball and and I would have said that game paddle. Isn't there like that game paddle. Isn't there like that game paddle. Isn't there like another game that's just like pickle another game that's just like pickle another game that's just like pickle ball? Uh, that's what I would have ball? Uh, that's what I would have ball? Uh, that's what I would have guessed. It does seem like pickle ball guessed. It does seem like pickle ball guessed. It does seem like pickle ball is number one, but number two I would is number one, but number two I would is number one, but number two I would have never guessed. Alpine Touring. I have never guessed. Alpine Touring. I have never guessed. Alpine Touring. I don't even know what that really is. don't even know what that really is. don't even know what that really is. >> I think it's just like off off >> I think it's just like off off >> I think it's just like off off skiing. Um, and then I have never heard skiing. Um, and then I have never heard skiing. Um, and then I have never heard of what is winter fat biking. of what is winter fat biking. of what is winter fat biking. >> It's awesome is what it is. It's like >> It's awesome is what it is. It's like >> It's awesome is what it is. It's like >> sounds like something I need to >> sounds like something I need to >> sounds like something I need to research. research. research. Have Have Have >> these fat tire bikes are are really >> these fat tire bikes are are really >> these fat tire bikes are are really popular right now. So, it's basically a popular right now. So, it's basically a popular right now. So, it's basically a bike with a just a really fat tire is bike with a just a really fat tire is bike with a just a really fat tire is what it is. And they they are they're what it is. And they they are they're what it is. And they they are they're sick looking. sick looking. sick looking. >> But is this a sport? >> But is this a sport? >> But is this a sport? >> Yeah, it's just mountain bike riding, >> Yeah, it's just mountain bike riding, >> Yeah, it's just mountain bike riding, but the tire is particularly fat. It but the tire is particularly fat. It but the tire is particularly fat. It that's all it is. You know, we what do that's all it is. You know, we what do that's all it is. You know, we what do we say? We like big and small things. we say? We like big and small things. we say? We like big and small things. Imagine a bicycle that could drive on a Imagine a bicycle that could drive on a Imagine a bicycle that could drive on a beach. beach. beach. >> Got it. Number four, offc course golf. >> Got it. Number four, offc course golf. >> Got it. Number four, offc course golf. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. >> And then number seven is trail running. >> And then number seven is trail running. >> And then number seven is trail running. I could definitely see that. That is the I could definitely see that. That is the I could definitely see that. That is the I I've get so many videos on my I I've get so many videos on my I I've get so many videos on my Instagram of trail running. Instagram of trail running. Instagram of trail running. >> Dude, I was at a dinner and somebody >> Dude, I was at a dinner and somebody >> Dude, I was at a dinner and somebody said something as a joke and I put up my said something as a joke and I put up my said something as a joke and I put up my finger to my lips and I said, "Sh, I finger to my lips and I said, "Sh, I finger to my lips and I said, "Sh, I need to write this down because it was need to write this down because it was need to write this down because it was an incredible idea." The guy goes, an incredible idea." The guy goes, an incredible idea." The guy goes, >> "You put his you put your finger on his >> "You put his you put your finger on his >> "You put his you put your finger on his lips." lips." lips." >> And then my own lips bash back and >> And then my own lips bash back and >> And then my own lips bash back and forth. And um I was like, "Say no more. forth. And um I was like, "Say no more. forth. And um I was like, "Say no more. I need to don't I don't want to lose I need to don't I don't want to lose I need to don't I don't want to lose this idea. Let me write this down." He this idea. Let me write this down." He this idea. Let me write this down." He said something. He goes, said something. He goes, said something. He goes, >> "Yeah, I do the um the suburban >> "Yeah, I do the um the suburban >> "Yeah, I do the um the suburban triathlon." And I go, "What?" And he triathlon." And I go, "What?" And he triathlon." And I go, "What?" And he goes, "Yeah, the suburban triathlon. goes, "Yeah, the suburban triathlon. goes, "Yeah, the suburban triathlon. um you you walk a you walk a half mile, um you you walk a you walk a half mile, um you you walk a you walk a half mile, you to this bar, you drink two beers, you to this bar, you drink two beers, you to this bar, you drink two beers, and then you go play nine holes of golf. and then you go play nine holes of golf. and then you go play nine holes of golf. And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, And I was like, what? He's like, yeah, it's the suburb I forgot he said it's the suburb I forgot he said it's the suburb I forgot he said suburban Iron Man or the Suburban suburban Iron Man or the Suburban suburban Iron Man or the Suburban Triathlon. And I was like, this has Triathlon. And I was like, this has Triathlon. And I was like, this has legs. And I I really think that if legs. And I I really think that if legs. And I I really think that if somebody created some kind of um thing somebody created some kind of um thing somebody created some kind of um thing for, you know, out of shape middle-aged for, you know, out of shape middle-aged for, you know, out of shape middle-aged guys to do, they'll do it. And I think guys to do, they'll do it. And I think guys to do, they'll do it. And I think if you make it if you brand it almost if you make it if you brand it almost if you make it if you brand it almost like as the uh the nonfit person like as the uh the nonfit person like as the uh the nonfit person triathlon and it's got to have like some triathlon and it's got to have like some triathlon and it's got to have like some version of eating and drinking being one version of eating and drinking being one version of eating and drinking being one of the legs. Dude, that's the ne next of the legs. Dude, that's the ne next of the legs. Dude, that's the ne next tough mutter. I think that could be a tough mutter. I think that could be a tough mutter. I think that could be a massive a massive trend that people massive a massive trend that people massive a massive trend that people start doing. This is this is definitely start doing. This is this is definitely start doing. This is this is definitely something that I I think would appeal to something that I I think would appeal to something that I I think would appeal to people. What do you guys think? people. What do you guys think? people. What do you guys think? >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's beautiful >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's beautiful >> Yeah. Yeah. And that's beautiful branding. branding. branding. >> It's the brand. We're working backwards >> It's the brand. We're working backwards >> It's the brand. We're working backwards from the brand. We really don't even from the brand. We really don't even from the brand. We really don't even know actually what goes underneath. It's know actually what goes underneath. It's know actually what goes underneath. It's just the the idea of the suburban just the the idea of the suburban just the the idea of the suburban triathlon. It's like you bike to the triathlon. It's like you bike to the triathlon. It's like you bike to the grocery store, you chug a beer, and then grocery store, you chug a beer, and then grocery store, you chug a beer, and then you like I don't know, run an errand, you like I don't know, run an errand, you like I don't know, run an errand, and that's the suburban triathlon, and and that's the suburban triathlon, and and that's the suburban triathlon, and you got to do it on Saturday mornings. Next, gold mine. So, I love this one. Next, gold mine. So, I love this one. Our world in data. So, people have maybe Our world in data. So, people have maybe Our world in data. So, people have maybe heard of this website. It's a website heard of this website. It's a website heard of this website. It's a website that tries to aggregate data that is a that tries to aggregate data that is a that tries to aggregate data that is a reflection of of what's really happening reflection of of what's really happening reflection of of what's really happening in the world. So, it includes things in the world. So, it includes things in the world. So, it includes things like data on poverty. It includes really like data on poverty. It includes really like data on poverty. It includes really niche things like I found I went through niche things like I found I went through niche things like I found I went through the website and there was a graph that the website and there was a graph that the website and there was a graph that related to the day of the year with peak related to the day of the year with peak related to the day of the year with peak cherry tree blossoms in Kyoto, right? cherry tree blossoms in Kyoto, right? cherry tree blossoms in Kyoto, right? Like so random, but they're collecting Like so random, but they're collecting Like so random, but they're collecting data on this. And I checked this website data on this. And I checked this website data on this. And I checked this website a few years ago and I want to say there a few years ago and I want to say there a few years ago and I want to say there was maybe 200 graphs on here. And if you was maybe 200 graphs on here. And if you was maybe 200 graphs on here. And if you go to their rworldanddata.org/charts go to their rworldanddata.org/charts go to their rworldanddata.org/charts page, I want to say there's thousands of page, I want to say there's thousands of page, I want to say there's thousands of different data points. Now, I just different data points. Now, I just different data points. Now, I just clicked on one. It's adjusted net clicked on one. It's adjusted net clicked on one. It's adjusted net savings per capita from 1970 to 2020. savings per capita from 1970 to 2020. savings per capita from 1970 to 2020. And you can see like how much per capita And you can see like how much per capita And you can see like how much per capita a variety of countries are saving. So a variety of countries are saving. So a variety of countries are saving. So like it's just like literally thousands like it's just like literally thousands like it's just like literally thousands of like different charts. You know, Sean of like different charts. You know, Sean of like different charts. You know, Sean talks about these like one chart talks about these like one chart talks about these like one chart businesses. One of them is this uh businesses. One of them is this uh businesses. One of them is this uh population of the world distribution. So population of the world distribution. So population of the world distribution. So basically this is a chart that is basically this is a chart that is basically this is a chart that is looking at how many of all the people in looking at how many of all the people in looking at how many of all the people in the world how many are young right now the world how many are young right now the world how many are young right now meaning under 15. How many are working meaning under 15. How many are working meaning under 15. How many are working age 15 to 65 and how many are elderly 65 age 15 to 65 and how many are elderly 65 age 15 to 65 and how many are elderly 65 plus. And the shocking thing about this plus. And the shocking thing about this plus. And the shocking thing about this chart this is a one chart. This is a one chart this is a one chart. This is a one chart this is a one chart. This is a one chart business right here which is the chart business right here which is the chart business right here which is the elderly curve goes from today right like elderly curve goes from today right like elderly curve goes from today right like kind of like the 2020 early 2020s where kind of like the 2020 early 2020s where kind of like the 2020 early 2020s where it's under 1 billion. It's by far the it's under 1 billion. It's by far the it's under 1 billion. It's by far the smallest line to it's going to cross smallest line to it's going to cross smallest line to it's going to cross over the young population and be at you over the young population and be at you over the young population and be at you know by the end of the where this has it know by the end of the where this has it know by the end of the where this has it projected 2.5 billion. And so that's the projected 2.5 billion. And so that's the projected 2.5 billion. And so that's the biggest grower. The working the working biggest grower. The working the working biggest grower. The working the working age one kind of flattens out. The young age one kind of flattens out. The young age one kind of flattens out. The young one kind of goes down and the elderly one kind of goes down and the elderly one kind of goes down and the elderly one has this huge spike. And so if one has this huge spike. And so if one has this huge spike. And so if you're building anything that's in the you're building anything that's in the you're building anything that's in the elder care that you're going to own for elder care that you're going to own for elder care that you're going to own for let's say 10 20 years, you have this let's say 10 20 years, you have this let's say 10 20 years, you have this immense tailwind behind you which is immense tailwind behind you which is immense tailwind behind you which is just that the population of people who just that the population of people who just that the population of people who fit, you know, the customer base is fit, you know, the customer base is fit, you know, the customer base is going to grow dramatically. We're going going to grow dramatically. We're going going to grow dramatically. We're going to go from under 1 billion people to to go from under 1 billion people to to go from under 1 billion people to over 2 and a.5 billion people that are over 2 and a.5 billion people that are over 2 and a.5 billion people that are in that market. And so that's a it's you in that market. And so that's a it's you in that market. And so that's a it's you know a case to say you know if you go know a case to say you know if you go know a case to say you know if you go there let's say let's say it's like real there let's say let's say it's like real there let's say let's say it's like real estate like if you owned senior living estate like if you owned senior living estate like if you owned senior living facilities or something like that you facilities or something like that you facilities or something like that you would be able to just benefit from the would be able to just benefit from the would be able to just benefit from the fact that oh occupancy is going to go up fact that oh occupancy is going to go up fact that oh occupancy is going to go up over time in this in this way. Now of over time in this in this way. Now of over time in this in this way. Now of course technology may may completely course technology may may completely course technology may may completely upend things and AI and all that but it upend things and AI and all that but it upend things and AI and all that but it you could see these like huge trends you could see these like huge trends you could see these like huge trends that are going to be very hard to that are going to be very hard to that are going to be very hard to reverse. So it's hard to imagine a reverse. So it's hard to imagine a reverse. So it's hard to imagine a scenario that we we change the direction scenario that we we change the direction scenario that we we change the direction of these lines. It would take like a of these lines. It would take like a of these lines. It would take like a whole societal shift, population level whole societal shift, population level whole societal shift, population level shift to change where these lines are shift to change where these lines are shift to change where these lines are going. going. going. >> There's so many here. Which ones stick >> There's so many here. Which ones stick >> There's so many here. Which ones stick out to you, Steph? out to you, Steph? out to you, Steph? >> So, I just linked another one that I >> So, I just linked another one that I >> So, I just linked another one that I think again is this like one chart think again is this like one chart think again is this like one chart business. This one's hard to get business. This one's hard to get business. This one's hard to get involved with, but I think it's it it's involved with, but I think it's it it's involved with, but I think it's it it's the lithium production. If you pull that the lithium production. If you pull that the lithium production. If you pull that up, I just linked it in the documents. up, I just linked it in the documents. up, I just linked it in the documents. And you can see that lithium production, And you can see that lithium production, And you can see that lithium production, which obviously is the core ingredient which obviously is the core ingredient which obviously is the core ingredient in many of our batteries, is in many of our batteries, is in many of our batteries, is concentrated in just a few countries. A concentrated in just a few countries. A concentrated in just a few countries. A lot of it's in China. A lot of it's in a lot of it's in China. A lot of it's in a lot of it's in China. A lot of it's in a few countries in South America. That's few countries in South America. That's few countries in South America. That's another example of just as you're another example of just as you're another example of just as you're browsing through a bunch of these these browsing through a bunch of these these browsing through a bunch of these these charts, I think that one jumps out. But charts, I think that one jumps out. But charts, I think that one jumps out. But the one I wanted to dive into in depth the one I wanted to dive into in depth the one I wanted to dive into in depth is air pollution. So, if you click the is air pollution. So, if you click the is air pollution. So, if you click the the the stat uh in here in our document the the stat uh in here in our document the the stat uh in here in our document that says air pollution is one of the that says air pollution is one of the that says air pollution is one of the world's leading risk factors for death, world's leading risk factors for death, world's leading risk factors for death, which maybe is obvious to some people, which maybe is obvious to some people, which maybe is obvious to some people, but to me when I think about it's like but to me when I think about it's like but to me when I think about it's like what are what are the key causes of what are what are the key causes of what are what are the key causes of death? What am I afraid of? Air death? What am I afraid of? Air death? What am I afraid of? Air pollution is not at the top of that pollution is not at the top of that pollution is not at the top of that list. However, um I also stumbled upon list. However, um I also stumbled upon list. However, um I also stumbled upon Patrick Collison's pollution page. He's Patrick Collison's pollution page. He's Patrick Collison's pollution page. He's got a bunch of cool pages on his got a bunch of cool pages on his got a bunch of cool pages on his website. He's got a page with just a website. He's got a page with just a website. He's got a page with just a bunch of questions. Uh, one of them's on bunch of questions. Uh, one of them's on bunch of questions. Uh, one of them's on pollution and he says that the World pollution and he says that the World pollution and he says that the World Bank indicates that 3.7 billion people, Bank indicates that 3.7 billion people, Bank indicates that 3.7 billion people, so about half the world's population, so about half the world's population, so about half the world's population, are exposed to this metric of PM 2.5 are exposed to this metric of PM 2.5 are exposed to this metric of PM 2.5 that that has to do with like the size that that has to do with like the size that that has to do with like the size of particles in the air. They're exposed of particles in the air. They're exposed of particles in the air. They're exposed to around five times the the unit of to around five times the the unit of to around five times the the unit of measure that he correlates with a bunch measure that he correlates with a bunch measure that he correlates with a bunch of things which include lower GDP. It of things which include lower GDP. It of things which include lower GDP. It includes stock market returns being includes stock market returns being includes stock market returns being lower, people making worse decisions lower, people making worse decisions lower, people making worse decisions like chess players making mistakes, like chess players making mistakes, like chess players making mistakes, politicians using less less complex politicians using less less complex politicians using less less complex speech. So those are just, you know, speech. So those are just, you know, speech. So those are just, you know, some fun facts, but I think what's some fun facts, but I think what's some fun facts, but I think what's what's really important is obviously the what's really important is obviously the what's really important is obviously the the health side of things. And there's the health side of things. And there's the health side of things. And there's another stat um that I'll just quickly another stat um that I'll just quickly another stat um that I'll just quickly share which is uh from a newsletter share which is uh from a newsletter share which is uh from a newsletter called charter which says that India's called charter which says that India's called charter which says that India's capital this was recently breached the capital this was recently breached the capital this was recently breached the 450 mark on the air quality index over 450 mark on the air quality index over 450 mark on the air quality index over four times the healthy level and four times the healthy level and four times the healthy level and basically they're in this hazardous zone basically they're in this hazardous zone basically they're in this hazardous zone which is akin to smoking 25 to 30 which is akin to smoking 25 to 30 which is akin to smoking 25 to 30 cigarettes a day and obviously that is cigarettes a day and obviously that is cigarettes a day and obviously that is an outlier but I wanted to call this out an outlier but I wanted to call this out an outlier but I wanted to call this out because I think air quality is something because I think air quality is something because I think air quality is something that is a problem in a lot of places that is a problem in a lot of places that is a problem in a lot of places clearly clearly clearly um some more than others, but it's um some more than others, but it's um some more than others, but it's something that I think people are going something that I think people are going something that I think people are going to be caring about a lot more. And maybe to be caring about a lot more. And maybe to be caring about a lot more. And maybe one one product that came out in the one one product that came out in the one one product that came out in the last year or so that's indicative of last year or so that's indicative of last year or so that's indicative of that that a lot of people made fun of that that a lot of people made fun of that that a lot of people made fun of was the Dyson mask headphones. So, I'll was the Dyson mask headphones. So, I'll was the Dyson mask headphones. So, I'll I'll stop there. I'll stop there. I'll stop there. >> What What What were those? >> What What What were those? >> What What What were those? >> Yeah, I never saw those. >> Yeah, I never saw those. >> Yeah, I never saw those. >> They are headphones that have a uh >> They are headphones that have a uh >> They are headphones that have a uh basically a a mask a air purifier basically a a mask a air purifier basically a a mask a air purifier attached to them. attached to them. attached to them. >> Wow. And they're expensive. They're >> Wow. And they're expensive. They're >> Wow. And they're expensive. They're $1,000, I think. Right. They are $700 $1,000, I think. Right. They are $700 $1,000, I think. Right. They are $700 from what I can see. from what I can see. from what I can see. >> And what this came out and people just >> And what this came out and people just >> And what this came out and people just made fun of him. Well, if you if you made fun of him. Well, if you if you made fun of him. Well, if you if you Google images, it's like a white guy in Google images, it's like a white guy in Google images, it's like a white guy in like the New York subway wearing it. You like the New York subway wearing it. You like the New York subway wearing it. You know what I mean? Like it's a little off know what I mean? Like it's a little off know what I mean? Like it's a little off on cuz you're talking about India and uh on cuz you're talking about India and uh on cuz you're talking about India and uh a few other countries, not maybe the New a few other countries, not maybe the New a few other countries, not maybe the New York subway. So, it's kind of like a York subway. So, it's kind of like a York subway. So, it's kind of like a it's kind of like a misleading ad they it's kind of like a misleading ad they it's kind of like a misleading ad they have. But that's pretty fascinating. Is have. But that's pretty fascinating. Is have. But that's pretty fascinating. Is this Are these taking off? No, I think this Are these taking off? No, I think this Are these taking off? No, I think they're in that zone of a lot of people they're in that zone of a lot of people they're in that zone of a lot of people making fun of them. However, the reason making fun of them. However, the reason making fun of them. However, the reason I'm calling this out is because I think I'm calling this out is because I think I'm calling this out is because I think there is this understanding that, you there is this understanding that, you there is this understanding that, you know, it's just in New Delhi. It's not, know, it's just in New Delhi. It's not, know, it's just in New Delhi. It's not, you know, anywhere close to home. But I you know, anywhere close to home. But I you know, anywhere close to home. But I think, have you guys ever used like a an think, have you guys ever used like a an think, have you guys ever used like a an air quality index um measurer in your air quality index um measurer in your air quality index um measurer in your home or like a CO2 monitor? home or like a CO2 monitor? home or like a CO2 monitor? >> Yeah, I have multiple times. And I >> Yeah, I have multiple times. And I >> Yeah, I have multiple times. And I bought like these air purifier things bought like these air purifier things bought like these air purifier things that also measure the air quality in my that also measure the air quality in my that also measure the air quality in my house and I have them and it's like house and I have them and it's like house and I have them and it's like shocking whenever it'll like it shocking whenever it'll like it shocking whenever it'll like it basically turns red and it's like oh god basically turns red and it's like oh god basically turns red and it's like oh god there's something going on you know what there's something going on you know what there's something going on you know what we need to air this place out or we need to air this place out or we need to air this place out or whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, air >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, air >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, air quality changes over time and I don't quality changes over time and I don't quality changes over time and I don't know. I've been noticing more even in know. I've been noticing more even in know. I've been noticing more even in San Francisco a few days where people San Francisco a few days where people San Francisco a few days where people are like, "Oh, I'm I'm wearing a mask at are like, "Oh, I'm I'm wearing a mask at are like, "Oh, I'm I'm wearing a mask at work, not because of COVID, but because work, not because of COVID, but because work, not because of COVID, but because like, oh gosh, like I have you checked like, oh gosh, like I have you checked like, oh gosh, like I have you checked the air quality?" And a lot of people the air quality?" And a lot of people the air quality?" And a lot of people aren't doing this still today, but I aren't doing this still today, but I aren't doing this still today, but I think that'll change. And I think if you think that'll change. And I think if you think that'll change. And I think if you use some of these, like the CO2 monitor, use some of these, like the CO2 monitor, use some of these, like the CO2 monitor, for example, you literally, like, if you for example, you literally, like, if you for example, you literally, like, if you go to bed with your door closed and you go to bed with your door closed and you go to bed with your door closed and you wake up and you check that thing, it is wake up and you check that thing, it is wake up and you check that thing, it is wild um how high it is. and you know all wild um how high it is. and you know all wild um how high it is. and you know all you need to do is open a window or you you need to do is open a window or you you need to do is open a window or you know circulate the air in your home. But know circulate the air in your home. But know circulate the air in your home. But I think as the stuff um I guess is I think as the stuff um I guess is I think as the stuff um I guess is people are more educated on it. I think people are more educated on it. I think people are more educated on it. I think some of these devices like the air some of these devices like the air some of these devices like the air quality uh monitors are going to take quality uh monitors are going to take quality uh monitors are going to take off and you can see some of this data in off and you can see some of this data in off and you can see some of this data in Jungle Scout as well of just like the Jungle Scout as well of just like the Jungle Scout as well of just like the kinds of products that people are kinds of products that people are kinds of products that people are buying. buying. buying. >> Do you see uh did you see anything in >> Do you see uh did you see anything in >> Do you see uh did you see anything in Jungle Scout that stood out? any product Jungle Scout that stood out? any product Jungle Scout that stood out? any product that's that's that's >> Okay, so there's one product which is uh >> Okay, so there's one product which is uh >> Okay, so there's one product which is uh has to do with uh an AC furnace and an has to do with uh an AC furnace and an has to do with uh an AC furnace and an air filter. Um but guess how much this air filter. Um but guess how much this air filter. Um but guess how much this thing sells every single month. thing sells every single month. thing sells every single month. >> What is it? >> What is it? >> What is it? >> It's an AC furnace air filter and an air >> It's an AC furnace air filter and an air >> It's an AC furnace air filter and an air quality monitor. So I'm seeing four quality monitor. So I'm seeing four quality monitor. So I'm seeing four entries in Jungle Scout and um they are entries in Jungle Scout and um they are entries in Jungle Scout and um they are 17 million, 12 million, 8 million, and 8 17 million, 12 million, 8 million, and 8 17 million, 12 million, 8 million, and 8 million. So what is that all total? million. So what is that all total? million. So what is that all total? That's like over 40 million per month. That's like over 40 million per month. That's like over 40 million per month. This is this is what Jungle Scout is This is this is what Jungle Scout is This is this is what Jungle Scout is saying. So, you know, take it with a saying. So, you know, take it with a saying. So, you know, take it with a grain of salt. I'm not sure how they grain of salt. I'm not sure how they grain of salt. I'm not sure how they measure, but they tend to be pretty measure, but they tend to be pretty measure, but they tend to be pretty accurate. And so, that's an example of I accurate. And so, that's an example of I accurate. And so, that's an example of I think as people again like try to think as people again like try to think as people again like try to understand the air quality around them. understand the air quality around them. understand the air quality around them. I think there's a there's a growing I think there's a there's a growing I think there's a there's a growing business here. I feel like one missing business here. I feel like one missing business here. I feel like one missing gap with air quality readings and gap with air quality readings and gap with air quality readings and devices and all that is it's not devices and all that is it's not devices and all that is it's not obvious. as in I feel like most people obvious. as in I feel like most people obvious. as in I feel like most people would be surprised to be like, "Oh my would be surprised to be like, "Oh my would be surprised to be like, "Oh my gosh, I inhale all this stuff and it has gosh, I inhale all this stuff and it has gosh, I inhale all this stuff and it has these adverse effects and it's, you these adverse effects and it's, you these adverse effects and it's, you know, it ranks here on, you know, the know, it ranks here on, you know, the know, it ranks here on, you know, the the likelihood of of death, but it's not the likelihood of of death, but it's not the likelihood of of death, but it's not obvious. It's not in your face like obvious. It's not in your face like obvious. It's not in your face like let's say like the GLP1s. People see let's say like the GLP1s. People see let's say like the GLP1s. People see themselves every day and they're themselves every day and they're themselves every day and they're constantly trying to improve their image constantly trying to improve their image constantly trying to improve their image and how other people interpret them. So, and how other people interpret them. So, and how other people interpret them. So, I think maybe one thing that if if I think maybe one thing that if if I think maybe one thing that if if someone was going to go figure this out, someone was going to go figure this out, someone was going to go figure this out, you guys have talked about um the the you guys have talked about um the the you guys have talked about um the the water filters. People go into your home water filters. People go into your home water filters. People go into your home and like they say like, "Did you know and like they say like, "Did you know and like they say like, "Did you know like you're drinking like this much of like you're drinking like this much of like you're drinking like this much of of like basically like rocks and other of like basically like rocks and other of like basically like rocks and other sediment and lead in your your water, sediment and lead in your your water, sediment and lead in your your water, can you believe it?" And they show you. can you believe it?" And they show you. can you believe it?" And they show you. And so I feel like there's an element of And so I feel like there's an element of And so I feel like there's an element of that where as it's going to take a while that where as it's going to take a while that where as it's going to take a while for people to really care about the air for people to really care about the air for people to really care about the air quality stuff, but there may be some quality stuff, but there may be some quality stuff, but there may be some middle ground where some company is able middle ground where some company is able middle ground where some company is able to effectively give people that aha. to effectively give people that aha. to effectively give people that aha. >> Yeah, I I would put it differently. I >> Yeah, I I would put it differently. I >> Yeah, I I would put it differently. I don't think it's going to take a while. don't think it's going to take a while. don't think it's going to take a while. I think it's going to take a marketer I think it's going to take a marketer I think it's going to take a marketer for people to care. for people to care. for people to care. >> It's just going to take a marketer and a >> It's just going to take a marketer and a >> It's just going to take a marketer and a product design that puts it in your face product design that puts it in your face product design that puts it in your face and that educates you about this and and that educates you about this and and that educates you about this and kind of scares you about it, but then kind of scares you about it, but then kind of scares you about it, but then says, "Don't worry, there's a solution." says, "Don't worry, there's a solution." says, "Don't worry, there's a solution." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And that's how a lot of things get done >> And that's how a lot of things get done >> And that's how a lot of things get done is, you know, a great marketer or is, you know, a great marketer or is, you know, a great marketer or product designer figures out the way to product designer figures out the way to product designer figures out the way to put it in your face. >> I spend way too much time online. Um, I >> I spend way too much time online. Um, I think a lot of people do, too. So, I've think a lot of people do, too. So, I've think a lot of people do, too. So, I've got a bad case, hopefully improving case got a bad case, hopefully improving case got a bad case, hopefully improving case of nerd neck. Some people call it of nerd neck. Some people call it of nerd neck. Some people call it forward uh head posture. Um, but forward uh head posture. Um, but forward uh head posture. Um, but basically, it's just cuz we're we're basically, it's just cuz we're we're basically, it's just cuz we're we're hunched over at a computer all day long. hunched over at a computer all day long. hunched over at a computer all day long. And I haven't done a ton here at like And I haven't done a ton here at like And I haven't done a ton here at like I'm kind of on the like very early part I'm kind of on the like very early part I'm kind of on the like very early part of this curve, but I have played around of this curve, but I have played around of this curve, but I have played around with I'm not using it right now. Hold it with I'm not using it right now. Hold it with I'm not using it right now. Hold it up. There's this thing I I don't know if up. There's this thing I I don't know if up. There's this thing I I don't know if I vouch for it or not yet, but this I vouch for it or not yet, but this I vouch for it or not yet, but this thing called betterback thing called betterback thing called betterback >> I'm looking at it. >> I'm looking at it. >> I'm looking at it. >> I think any any time that you have to >> I think any any time that you have to >> I think any any time that you have to use one of these devices, I tend to get use one of these devices, I tend to get use one of these devices, I tend to get nervous that it's legit. But go ahead. nervous that it's legit. But go ahead. nervous that it's legit. But go ahead. What is it? What is it? What is it? >> Well, that's why I don't know. So, it >> Well, that's why I don't know. So, it >> Well, that's why I don't know. So, it has helped me sit up more. basically has helped me sit up more. basically has helped me sit up more. basically like it runs around your knees and your like it runs around your knees and your like it runs around your knees and your back and I like it better than some back and I like it better than some back and I like it better than some thing. There's things you you can put on thing. There's things you you can put on thing. There's things you you can put on your back that like zap you and stuff your back that like zap you and stuff your back that like zap you and stuff and I feel like that's really unnatural. and I feel like that's really unnatural. and I feel like that's really unnatural. But this actually just because it's like But this actually just because it's like But this actually just because it's like fixated around your knees. You just sit fixated around your knees. You just sit fixated around your knees. You just sit up straighter. up straighter. up straighter. >> So for for those listening, it's >> So for for those listening, it's >> So for for those listening, it's basically like a strap that when you're basically like a strap that when you're basically like a strap that when you're sitting down, it wraps around your back sitting down, it wraps around your back sitting down, it wraps around your back and then attaches to your knees. And in and then attaches to your knees. And in and then attaches to your knees. And in doing that, it kind of forces you to sit doing that, it kind of forces you to sit doing that, it kind of forces you to sit up. up. up. >> Yeah. Exactly. There's other um for the >> Yeah. Exactly. There's other um for the >> Yeah. Exactly. There's other um for the women, the your four female listeners, women, the your four female listeners, women, the your four female listeners, there's a sports bra that I haven't there's a sports bra that I haven't there's a sports bra that I haven't tried yet called form, which apparently tried yet called form, which apparently tried yet called form, which apparently like folks like Taylor Swift have used. like folks like Taylor Swift have used. like folks like Taylor Swift have used. If you look at her posture a decade ago, If you look at her posture a decade ago, If you look at her posture a decade ago, it was way way worse. So there like it was way way worse. So there like it was way way worse. So there like there's a small part of me that believes there's a small part of me that believes there's a small part of me that believes that something like that works. that something like that works. that something like that works. >> Can I use this? >> Can I use this? >> Can I use this? >> You can. >> You can. >> You can. >> Like you're telling me just like this >> Like you're telling me just like this >> Like you're telling me just like this like shirt that I mean for me it would like shirt that I mean for me it would like shirt that I mean for me it would be a shirt that's going to make me have be a shirt that's going to make me have be a shirt that's going to make me have better posture. What is this thing? I better posture. What is this thing? I better posture. What is this thing? I haven't tried it, but um it's it's a haven't tried it, but um it's it's a haven't tried it, but um it's it's a sports bra that people vouch helps your sports bra that people vouch helps your sports bra that people vouch helps your posture, but I think generally, as I've posture, but I think generally, as I've posture, but I think generally, as I've explored this a little bit, it is a explored this a little bit, it is a explored this a little bit, it is a function of your muscle, right? Like if function of your muscle, right? Like if function of your muscle, right? Like if you have strength in your abdomen and you have strength in your abdomen and you have strength in your abdomen and your back, like you're going to sit up your back, like you're going to sit up your back, like you're going to sit up straighter. But there's a video I straighter. But there's a video I straighter. But there's a video I shared, we can include all this in the shared, we can include all this in the shared, we can include all this in the show notes. This is actually just like show notes. This is actually just like show notes. This is actually just like an email I sent or I'm going to send to an email I sent or I'm going to send to an email I sent or I'm going to send to the Internet Pipes crew this month, but the Internet Pipes crew this month, but the Internet Pipes crew this month, but like it's um a video from Brian Johnson like it's um a video from Brian Johnson like it's um a video from Brian Johnson around his posture. He worked with a around his posture. He worked with a around his posture. He worked with a posture coach for several months. And posture coach for several months. And posture coach for several months. And then Tim Ferrris has recommended then Tim Ferrris has recommended then Tim Ferrris has recommended something called the ego skew method, something called the ego skew method, something called the ego skew method, which I have not tried. Um which I have not tried. Um which I have not tried. Um >> and what's this Brian Johnson video? >> and what's this Brian Johnson video? >> and what's this Brian Johnson video? What how do I just make my posture What how do I just make my posture What how do I just make my posture better? better? better? There's three different exercises that There's three different exercises that There's three different exercises that he does every single day and he shares he does every single day and he shares he does every single day and he shares them in this video um that improved his them in this video um that improved his them in this video um that improved his posture. posture. posture. >> And what's this ego ego escu? >> And what's this ego ego escu? >> And what's this ego ego escu? >> It's a method that I think you need to >> It's a method that I think you need to >> It's a method that I think you need to like work with a practitioner for, which like work with a practitioner for, which like work with a practitioner for, which is why again I'm not um I don't I don't is why again I'm not um I don't I don't is why again I'm not um I don't I don't think I'm vouching for this in any way, think I'm vouching for this in any way, think I'm vouching for this in any way, but it's just something that came up. but it's just something that came up. but it's just something that came up. >> Dude, there's this great uh TED talk >> Dude, there's this great uh TED talk >> Dude, there's this great uh TED talk that you should watch it. Why sitting that you should watch it. Why sitting that you should watch it. Why sitting down destroys you. I think it's by Roger down destroys you. I think it's by Roger down destroys you. I think it's by Roger uh Frampton. I believe that's the one. uh Frampton. I believe that's the one. uh Frampton. I believe that's the one. Uh but it's a a TED talk that has Uh but it's a a TED talk that has Uh but it's a a TED talk that has millions of views. And he basically goes millions of views. And he basically goes millions of views. And he basically goes through this idea of how he worked I I through this idea of how he worked I I through this idea of how he worked I I think he worked in in the Amazon. He think he worked in in the Amazon. He think he worked in in the Amazon. He worked with some like indigenous tribe worked with some like indigenous tribe worked with some like indigenous tribe where they didn't have a they didn't use where they didn't have a they didn't use where they didn't have a they didn't use like a lot of chairs or something like like a lot of chairs or something like like a lot of chairs or something like that. And what he found was that that. And what he found was that that. And what he found was that basically the people who in in today's basically the people who in in today's basically the people who in in today's age, we don't really do this, but we age, we don't really do this, but we age, we don't really do this, but we used to where if you stand a lot, you used to where if you stand a lot, you used to where if you stand a lot, you squeeze your ass. Like imagine you got a squeeze your ass. Like imagine you got a squeeze your ass. Like imagine you got a you got a little penny in your butt you got a little penny in your butt you got a little penny in your butt cheeks that you're trying to keep from cheeks that you're trying to keep from cheeks that you're trying to keep from falling down on the ground. That's falling down on the ground. That's falling down on the ground. That's basically what you do. You like squeeze basically what you do. You like squeeze basically what you do. You like squeeze your butt together when you're standing. your butt together when you're standing. your butt together when you're standing. And there's a reason why our glutes And there's a reason why our glutes And there's a reason why our glutes typically tend to be our largest muscle. typically tend to be our largest muscle. typically tend to be our largest muscle. >> It's because we were supposed to use >> It's because we were supposed to use >> It's because we were supposed to use them a lot and how we don't really use them a lot and how we don't really use them a lot and how we don't really use them too much anymore. And so instead them too much anymore. And so instead them too much anymore. And so instead when we stand we kind of uh lean when we stand we kind of uh lean when we stand we kind of uh lean forward. And he was like no you should forward. And he was like no you should forward. And he was like no you should actually when you stand he was like a actually when you stand he was like a actually when you stand he was like a lot of babies actually if you watch like lot of babies actually if you watch like lot of babies actually if you watch like a kid you'll notice they they they do a a kid you'll notice they they they do a a kid you'll notice they they they do a good job at this but you squeeze your good job at this but you squeeze your good job at this but you squeeze your butt together and and and and you flex butt together and and and and you flex butt together and and and and you flex your abs as opposed to just falling your abs as opposed to just falling your abs as opposed to just falling forward. And if you work on it you can forward. And if you work on it you can forward. And if you work on it you can actually hold that for like a fairly actually hold that for like a fairly actually hold that for like a fairly long time when you're standing. And long time when you're standing. And long time when you're standing. And that's the proper way to stand. And so that's the proper way to stand. And so that's the proper way to stand. And so it's not just sitting that will destroy it's not just sitting that will destroy it's not just sitting that will destroy you, but standing uh incorrectly. you, but standing uh incorrectly. you, but standing uh incorrectly. >> Yeah, totally. Well, even in the video I >> Yeah, totally. Well, even in the video I >> Yeah, totally. Well, even in the video I did watch with Brian Johnson, he was did watch with Brian Johnson, he was did watch with Brian Johnson, he was talking about how most people when they talking about how most people when they talking about how most people when they think they want good posture, they like think they want good posture, they like think they want good posture, they like tilt their head back and that's bad as tilt their head back and that's bad as tilt their head back and that's bad as well. Like they're kind of like, "Oh, I well. Like they're kind of like, "Oh, I well. Like they're kind of like, "Oh, I have good posture like this." And you have good posture like this." And you have good posture like this." And you really want to be more like head your really want to be more like head your really want to be more like head your the back of your neck should be the back of your neck should be the back of your neck should be absolutely straight. So, >> uh, what's this, um, ask nature thing? >> uh, what's this, um, ask nature thing? >> So, if people want to go down the rabbit >> So, if people want to go down the rabbit >> So, if people want to go down the rabbit hole of exploring kind of not just like, hole of exploring kind of not just like, hole of exploring kind of not just like, let me go look at pictures of animals, let me go look at pictures of animals, let me go look at pictures of animals, but understanding like how do animals but understanding like how do animals but understanding like how do animals produce color? What are the examples of produce color? What are the examples of produce color? What are the examples of technology being inspired by natural technology being inspired by natural technology being inspired by natural design, for example, like a search design, for example, like a search design, for example, like a search algorithm that was inspired by ants? algorithm that was inspired by ants? algorithm that was inspired by ants? >> This is so fascinating. So, Ask Nature >> This is so fascinating. So, Ask Nature >> This is so fascinating. So, Ask Nature has this um they have this like there's has this um they have this like there's has this um they have this like there's all stuff you can click on. So, there's all stuff you can click on. So, there's all stuff you can click on. So, there's one about the African darter. one about the African darter. one about the African darter. Apparently, that's a type of bird and it Apparently, that's a type of bird and it Apparently, that's a type of bird and it has a very special feather that is has a very special feather that is has a very special feather that is incredibly waterresistant. And then it incredibly waterresistant. And then it incredibly waterresistant. And then it tells you like different applications tells you like different applications tells you like different applications that this potential feather or like that this potential feather or like that this potential feather or like inspiration of this feather could have. inspiration of this feather could have. inspiration of this feather could have. And it talks about like the strategy of And it talks about like the strategy of And it talks about like the strategy of how it works and like the potential for how it works and like the potential for how it works and like the potential for copying this feather. This is amazing. copying this feather. This is amazing. copying this feather. This is amazing. How did you find this website? This is How did you find this website? This is How did you find this website? This is really cool. really cool. really cool. >> So someone shared it within internet >> So someone shared it within internet >> So someone shared it within internet pipes. We have this survey whenever pipes. We have this survey whenever pipes. We have this survey whenever people join which just asks like what's people join which just asks like what's people join which just asks like what's your favorite tool? A lot of it ends up your favorite tool? A lot of it ends up your favorite tool? A lot of it ends up being what you expect chatbt huffs etc. being what you expect chatbt huffs etc. being what you expect chatbt huffs etc. But there are a bunch of gems that come But there are a bunch of gems that come But there are a bunch of gems that come through like this. through like this. through like this. >> And so by the way is internet pipes. >> And so by the way is internet pipes. >> And so by the way is internet pipes. It's literally just tons of different It's literally just tons of different It's literally just tons of different resources for finding these things. resources for finding these things. resources for finding these things. >> So what the product started as it was I >> So what the product started as it was I >> So what the product started as it was I hate the term course but it was a course hate the term course but it was a course hate the term course but it was a course that existed to say that existed to say that existed to say >> a book. It was a book. >> a book. It was a book. >> a book. It was a book. >> It was a book. It exists in notion and >> It was a book. It exists in notion and >> It was a book. It exists in notion and there's videos and there's text and now there's videos and there's text and now there's videos and there's text and now there's a community and now there's there's a community and now there's there's a community and now there's things databases like the digits things databases like the digits things databases like the digits database. But the origin was okay. The database. But the origin was okay. The database. But the origin was okay. The most common question I get asked is, you most common question I get asked is, you most common question I get asked is, you find all this cool stuff online, how do find all this cool stuff online, how do find all this cool stuff online, how do you find it? And so, Internet Pipes was you find it? And so, Internet Pipes was you find it? And so, Internet Pipes was showing people how to find this showing people how to find this showing people how to find this information through a series of tools. information through a series of tools. information through a series of tools. And that's why it's called Pipes, right? And that's why it's called Pipes, right? And that's why it's called Pipes, right? It's like, use this tool to make sense It's like, use this tool to make sense It's like, use this tool to make sense of all of all of the purchase that of all of all of the purchase that of all of all of the purchase that purchases that are happening on Amazon, purchases that are happening on Amazon, purchases that are happening on Amazon, all of the pages that exist on all of the pages that exist on all of the pages that exist on Wikipedia, all of the searches that are Wikipedia, all of the searches that are Wikipedia, all of the searches that are happening on Google. And, you know, you happening on Google. And, you know, you happening on Google. And, you know, you go down the line, this data exists. And go down the line, this data exists. And go down the line, this data exists. And by the way, we're at a unique period by the way, we're at a unique period by the way, we're at a unique period where like it didn't quite exist 15 where like it didn't quite exist 15 where like it didn't quite exist 15 years ago and 15 years from now probably years ago and 15 years from now probably years ago and 15 years from now probably everyone will know it exists. And so everyone will know it exists. And so everyone will know it exists. And so it's like this internet pipes is a it's like this internet pipes is a it's like this internet pipes is a course, a book, whatever you want to course, a book, whatever you want to course, a book, whatever you want to call it to learn how to do that. call it to learn how to do that. call it to learn how to do that. >> And you've made a lot of money off of it >> And you've made a lot of money off of it >> And you've made a lot of money off of it so far, haven't you? so far, haven't you? so far, haven't you? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> That's pretty dope. When you answer just >> That's pretty dope. When you answer just >> That's pretty dope. When you answer just yes, that means I'm not going to ask how yes, that means I'm not going to ask how yes, that means I'm not going to ask how much. much. much. >> Six figures. There's a pretty wide range >> Six figures. There's a pretty wide range >> Six figures. There's a pretty wide range of, you know, of, you know, of, you know, >> does the six figure include the 0? So, >> does the six figure include the 0? So, >> does the six figure include the 0? So, it could really be like $1,000. it could really be like $1,000. it could really be like $1,000. >> It's eight figures. Now, >> It's eight figures. Now, >> It's eight figures. Now, >> got it. >> got it. >> got it. This is a really, really cool website. I This is a really, really cool website. I This is a really, really cool website. I could spend hours just looking at this. could spend hours just looking at this. could spend hours just looking at this. Like, there's an article about like Like, there's an article about like Like, there's an article about like camels fur and how uh it keeps people camels fur and how uh it keeps people camels fur and how uh it keeps people cool or it keeps camels cool in the cool or it keeps camels cool in the cool or it keeps camels cool in the desert, but also warm at night. And why desert, but also warm at night. And why desert, but also warm at night. And why that particular type of fur is special that particular type of fur is special that particular type of fur is special for this. The reason it's kind of for this. The reason it's kind of for this. The reason it's kind of interesting is like the the two that interesting is like the the two that interesting is like the the two that I've named are clothing related, but I've named are clothing related, but I've named are clothing related, but like if you had a clothing related like if you had a clothing related like if you had a clothing related brand, like some type of like it's brand, like some type of like it's brand, like some type of like it's stealing the story for you. Like it's stealing the story for you. Like it's stealing the story for you. Like it's like or not stealing, it's giving you like or not stealing, it's giving you like or not stealing, it's giving you the hook. the hook. the hook. >> Exactly. Exactly. And by the way, like >> Exactly. Exactly. And by the way, like >> Exactly. Exactly. And by the way, like people in our world in business tech are people in our world in business tech are people in our world in business tech are always talking about the like lindyness always talking about the like lindyness always talking about the like lindyness of something. How long has something of something. How long has something of something. How long has something existed for? And it's like you are existed for? And it's like you are existed for? And it's like you are learning from millions of years of learning from millions of years of learning from millions of years of evolution, right? um of these these evolution, right? um of these these evolution, right? um of these these animals that have become purely animals that have become purely animals that have become purely optimized for this purpose. And to your optimized for this purpose. And to your optimized for this purpose. And to your point, I think like the marketer and point, I think like the marketer and point, I think like the marketer and both of us is like what could you know both of us is like what could you know both of us is like what could you know what products could you make off of what products could you make off of what products could you make off of this? this? this? >> Like there's one like the otter where >> Like there's one like the otter where >> Like there's one like the otter where it's like it keeps it keeps heat in and it's like it keeps it keeps heat in and it's like it keeps it keeps heat in and cold water out. So Otter and I'm sure cold water out. So Otter and I'm sure cold water out. So Otter and I'm sure every single wet suit company has like every single wet suit company has like every single wet suit company has like stolen this marketing for their branding stolen this marketing for their branding stolen this marketing for their branding or whatever, but like so it's like or whatever, but like so it's like or whatever, but like so it's like really fascinating. Sorry. Go ahead. really fascinating. Sorry. Go ahead. really fascinating. Sorry. Go ahead. >> Well, did you ever see you know >> Well, did you ever see you know >> Well, did you ever see you know Mischief, right? Mischief, right? Mischief, right? >> Mischief the brand. Shiff is uh the >> Mischief the brand. Shiff is uh the >> Mischief the brand. Shiff is uh the company like weird projects like they company like weird projects like they company like weird projects like they did like a a blood shoe for with Lil did like a a blood shoe for with Lil did like a a blood shoe for with Lil NasX or something like that. NasX or something like that. NasX or something like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. So they've they've done a >> Yeah. Yeah. So they've they've done a >> Yeah. Yeah. So they've they've done a ton of shoe collabs. They did one I ton of shoe collabs. They did one I ton of shoe collabs. They did one I think it was I don't remember if it was think it was I don't remember if it was think it was I don't remember if it was with Jimmy Kimmel or they just announced with Jimmy Kimmel or they just announced with Jimmy Kimmel or they just announced it but it was called the Gob Stomper. it but it was called the Gob Stomper. it but it was called the Gob Stomper. Did you ever see this? Did you ever see this? Did you ever see this? >> No. It's Jimmy Kimmel still >> No. It's Jimmy Kimmel still >> No. It's Jimmy Kimmel still a celebrity that one wants to collab a celebrity that one wants to collab a celebrity that one wants to collab with? I didn't realize he was like with? I didn't realize he was like with? I didn't realize he was like booing. I don't know. Maybe it was Maybe booing. I don't know. Maybe it was Maybe booing. I don't know. Maybe it was Maybe they just announced it there. Um, but they just announced it there. Um, but they just announced it there. Um, but these gobstomper uh sneakers that these gobstomper uh sneakers that these gobstomper uh sneakers that Mischief created, I thought they were Mischief created, I thought they were Mischief created, I thought they were kind of cool. They basically the bottom kind of cool. They basically the bottom kind of cool. They basically the bottom uh foundation of the of the sneaker uh foundation of the of the sneaker uh foundation of the of the sneaker comes gray at first and then as you wear comes gray at first and then as you wear comes gray at first and then as you wear it more, basically like as your shoe it more, basically like as your shoe it more, basically like as your shoe wears away, it looks like a gobstopper. wears away, it looks like a gobstopper. wears away, it looks like a gobstopper. And it was just like And it was just like And it was just like >> which is the candy that you suck on and >> which is the candy that you suck on and >> which is the candy that you suck on and each shell layer of shell it turns each shell layer of shell it turns each shell layer of shell it turns colors. Okay, cool. colors. Okay, cool. colors. Okay, cool. >> Yeah, exactly. And so my like you might >> Yeah, exactly. And so my like you might >> Yeah, exactly. And so my like you might think this is the silliest idea ever, think this is the silliest idea ever, think this is the silliest idea ever, but when I went to the Gopagos and I saw but when I went to the Gopagos and I saw but when I went to the Gopagos and I saw these redfooted and these blue-footed these redfooted and these blue-footed these redfooted and these blue-footed boobies, and by the way, fun fact for boobies, and by the way, fun fact for boobies, and by the way, fun fact for the listeners, the reason that these um the listeners, the reason that these um the listeners, the reason that these um that these birds have different colored that these birds have different colored that these birds have different colored feet is because of what they eat, which feet is because of what they eat, which feet is because of what they eat, which I just thought was like so strange and I just thought was like so strange and I just thought was like so strange and interesting. But imagine a sneaker brand interesting. But imagine a sneaker brand interesting. But imagine a sneaker brand that was, again, stick with me here. that was, again, stick with me here. that was, again, stick with me here. This might be a really awful idea that's This might be a really awful idea that's This might be a really awful idea that's related to health in some way. So like, related to health in some way. So like, related to health in some way. So like, let's say you're wearing a CGM and on let's say you're wearing a CGM and on let's say you're wearing a CGM and on your shoes, your shoes change color in your shoes, your shoes change color in your shoes, your shoes change color in some way based on how like if you're in some way based on how like if you're in some way based on how like if you're in range or some other metric that you care range or some other metric that you care range or some other metric that you care about. But basically, you're able to about. But basically, you're able to about. But basically, you're able to signal something in a way that changes signal something in a way that changes signal something in a way that changes through your feet. through your feet. through your feet. >> Like that >> Like that >> Like that >> awful idea. >> awful idea. >> awful idea. >> Well, it could be like if you know, we >> Well, it could be like if you know, we >> Well, it could be like if you know, we could we could we could show you're could we could we could show you're could we could we could show you're fertile or something. fertile or something. fertile or something. >> It's like those parties, right, where >> It's like those parties, right, where >> It's like those parties, right, where you wear like what are they called? The you wear like what are they called? The you wear like what are they called? The stoplight parties where you wear red, stoplight parties where you wear red, stoplight parties where you wear red, >> yellow, red, or green. >> yellow, red, or green. >> yellow, red, or green. >> That's pretty. >> That's pretty. >> That's pretty. >> So, we could stop light shoes. Maybe >> So, we could stop light shoes. Maybe >> So, we could stop light shoes. Maybe that's a better version of the idea. Okay, let's do a quick one, which is I Okay, let's do a quick one, which is I actually saw this in the trends actually saw this in the trends actually saw this in the trends newsletter a while ago. I didn't write newsletter a while ago. I didn't write newsletter a while ago. I didn't write this, but it was this stat, which is the this, but it was this stat, which is the this, but it was this stat, which is the average person spends $15,000 after a average person spends $15,000 after a average person spends $15,000 after a breakup. I have no idea where this stat breakup. I have no idea where this stat breakup. I have no idea where this stat came from, but came from, but came from, but definitely got the wheels spinning and definitely got the wheels spinning and definitely got the wheels spinning and they came up with a bunch of different they came up with a bunch of different they came up with a bunch of different ideas, which I think actually are ideas, which I think actually are ideas, which I think actually are getting some traction. Divorce party getting some traction. Divorce party getting some traction. Divorce party ideas is something that gets search ideas is something that gets search ideas is something that gets search volume. Breakup cake. um people throwing volume. Breakup cake. um people throwing volume. Breakup cake. um people throwing their own breakup parties and I was just their own breakup parties and I was just their own breakup parties and I was just like, "Huh, I don't know if there's, you like, "Huh, I don't know if there's, you like, "Huh, I don't know if there's, you know, specific brands that are taking know, specific brands that are taking know, specific brands that are taking this on, but I was like, "Huh, that this on, but I was like, "Huh, that this on, but I was like, "Huh, that that's $15,000. Don't know where it came that's $15,000. Don't know where it came that's $15,000. Don't know where it came from, but there's something there." from, but there's something there." from, but there's something there." >> That's like if I'm if I'm FJerry, you >> That's like if I'm if I'm FJerry, you >> That's like if I'm if I'm FJerry, you know, that like Instagram account, and know, that like Instagram account, and know, that like Instagram account, and they have these like they built a kind they have these like they built a kind they have these like they built a kind of like a little media empire. They have of like a little media empire. They have of like a little media empire. They have a bunch of other accounts, but they also a bunch of other accounts, but they also a bunch of other accounts, but they also have products they make. Like they made have products they make. Like they made have products they make. Like they made that that card game. I think they they that that card game. I think they they that that card game. I think they they make some products. Now, make some products. Now, make some products. Now, >> if I was if I was one of those accounts, >> if I was if I was one of those accounts, >> if I was if I was one of those accounts, I would be jumping on this. I would I would be jumping on this. I would I would be jumping on this. I would basically say, "All right, it's already basically say, "All right, it's already basically say, "All right, it's already viral. It's me worthy. It's it's viral. It's me worthy. It's it's viral. It's me worthy. It's it's remarkable. People are going to talk remarkable. People are going to talk remarkable. People are going to talk about this. So, how do I make, you know, about this. So, how do I make, you know, about this. So, how do I make, you know, like the best breakup cake delivery like the best breakup cake delivery like the best breakup cake delivery service or like um service or like um service or like um >> you know, like >> you know, like >> you know, like >> uh the the revenge body kit?" And it's >> uh the the revenge body kit?" And it's >> uh the the revenge body kit?" And it's like, you know, we send you this like like, you know, we send you this like like, you know, we send you this like the 7-day detox um where you we send you the 7-day detox um where you we send you the 7-day detox um where you we send you like a healing crystal, we send you like like a healing crystal, we send you like like a healing crystal, we send you like a ju juice cleanse and whatever else to a ju juice cleanse and whatever else to a ju juice cleanse and whatever else to like, you know, get that person out of like, you know, get that person out of like, you know, get that person out of your out of your life, you know, get the your out of your life, you know, get the your out of your life, you know, get the bad juju, you know, away. And I'd be bad juju, you know, away. And I'd be bad juju, you know, away. And I'd be like, you know, this is called Bad Guju like, you know, this is called Bad Guju like, you know, this is called Bad Guju or whatever. And I would just try to or whatever. And I would just try to or whatever. And I would just try to create like a viral product through create like a viral product through create like a viral product through that. Um because I think it's on brand that. Um because I think it's on brand that. Um because I think it's on brand and I think it has like enough demand and I think it has like enough demand and I think it has like enough demand where there's you could see this doing, where there's you could see this doing, where there's you could see this doing, you know, you know, you know, >> 2 to10 million a year all organically >> 2 to10 million a year all organically >> 2 to10 million a year all organically just because the product is so viral. just because the product is so viral. just because the product is so viral. You know, it's probably not going to be You know, it's probably not going to be You know, it's probably not going to be enormous, but there's a there's enough enormous, but there's a there's enough enormous, but there's a there's enough of a niche there, especially if you're of a niche there, especially if you're of a niche there, especially if you're one of these accounts because you one of these accounts because you one of these accounts because you already got distribution. Um or you're already got distribution. Um or you're already got distribution. Um or you're somebody who goes to those accounts and somebody who goes to those accounts and somebody who goes to those accounts and partners with them and says, "Hey, I got partners with them and says, "Hey, I got partners with them and says, "Hey, I got the right product for you guys. let's the right product for you guys. let's the right product for you guys. let's do, you know, some kind of profit share do, you know, some kind of profit share do, you know, some kind of profit share and uh I'll run this business and you and uh I'll run this business and you and uh I'll run this business and you guys just help me promote this like, you guys just help me promote this like, you guys just help me promote this like, you know, uh whatever, like the breakup know, uh whatever, like the breakup know, uh whatever, like the breakup vodka and it's like, you know, this is vodka and it's like, you know, this is vodka and it's like, you know, this is the breakup vodka kit or whatever, you the breakup vodka kit or whatever, you the breakup vodka kit or whatever, you know, whatever the thing is. know, whatever the thing is. know, whatever the thing is. >> Yeah. I mean, I'm imagining, you know, >> Yeah. I mean, I'm imagining, you know, >> Yeah. I mean, I'm imagining, you know, all the tropes of someone gets broken up all the tropes of someone gets broken up all the tropes of someone gets broken up with and then they become super fit and with and then they become super fit and with and then they become super fit and like they get a PhD and they just become like they get a PhD and they just become like they get a PhD and they just become like the best version of themselves like the best version of themselves like the best version of themselves after the breakup. Doesn't always after the breakup. Doesn't always after the breakup. Doesn't always happen, but you could imagine something happen, but you could imagine something happen, but you could imagine something like that. like that. like that. >> Or something that's even less work. It's >> Or something that's even less work. It's >> Or something that's even less work. It's like what's those what are those like like what's those what are those like like what's those what are those like voodoo dolls where you like poke it and voodoo dolls where you like poke it and voodoo dolls where you like poke it and you're like you know you're sending like you're like you know you're sending like you're like you know you're sending like ill will towards them. You could just ill will towards them. You could just ill will towards them. You could just like upload a photo of your person and like upload a photo of your person and like upload a photo of your person and we print you a doll that looks you know we print you a doll that looks you know we print you a doll that looks you know like close enough like them and like you like close enough like them and like you like close enough like them and like you can do that. can do that. can do that. >> That reminds me of Did you see that >> That reminds me of Did you see that >> That reminds me of Did you see that startup empty? It was fake. startup empty? It was fake. startup empty? It was fake. >> Did you Did you hear about this? >> Did you Did you hear about this? >> Did you Did you hear about this? >> It it's I think it was you know it had >> It it's I think it was you know it had >> It it's I think it was you know it had the silly spelling to It was like EMPTI the silly spelling to It was like EMPTI the silly spelling to It was like EMPTI or something and it was a fake startup or something and it was a fake startup or something and it was a fake startup that people thought was real and that people thought was real and that people thought was real and basically they sent people these empty basically they sent people these empty basically they sent people these empty boxes. Um, and the whole idea was like boxes. Um, and the whole idea was like boxes. Um, and the whole idea was like look we send you these empty boxes and look we send you these empty boxes and look we send you these empty boxes and there's some like motiv motivational there's some like motiv motivational there's some like motiv motivational quote from Buddha in it and it's like quote from Buddha in it and it's like quote from Buddha in it and it's like you know rid yourself of all the things you know rid yourself of all the things you know rid yourself of all the things you don't need in your life. And the you don't need in your life. And the you don't need in your life. And the idea is that people are supposed to take idea is that people are supposed to take idea is that people are supposed to take all their junk, put it in these boxes all their junk, put it in these boxes all their junk, put it in these boxes and send it to this company for free but and send it to this company for free but and send it to this company for free but they pay this company to send them these they pay this company to send them these they pay this company to send them these boxes. Um, but it was a fake startup and boxes. Um, but it was a fake startup and boxes. Um, but it was a fake startup and all these people are writing about it. all these people are writing about it. all these people are writing about it. They're like, "Oh, this is so smart." They're like, "Oh, this is so smart." They're like, "Oh, this is so smart." Like, "What a cool company." And it was Like, "What a cool company." And it was Like, "What a cool company." And it was just just just >> Yeah, exactly. It was a joke. But >> Yeah, exactly. It was a joke. But >> Yeah, exactly. It was a joke. But >> yeah, actually, you could do that with >> yeah, actually, you could do that with >> yeah, actually, you could do that with this, too. You could send them the this, too. You could send them the this, too. You could send them the breakup box. It's like, "Put all their breakup box. It's like, "Put all their breakup box. It's like, "Put all their crap in this. All their crap they've crap in this. All their crap they've crap in this. All their crap they've left in your house that reminds you of left in your house that reminds you of left in your house that reminds you of them. Put it in this. Send it to us and them. Put it in this. Send it to us and them. Put it in this. Send it to us and we will send you a video of us like we will send you a video of us like we will send you a video of us like burning this box in this like epic way burning this box in this like epic way burning this box in this like epic way and like you get to have that at the and like you get to have that at the and like you get to have that at the end." That's, you know, those are the end." That's, you know, those are the end." That's, you know, those are the types of of ideas you could do with types of of ideas you could do with types of of ideas you could do with this. this. this. >> Nice. So you were right before we >> Nice. So you were right before we >> Nice. So you were right before we started recording you were starting to started recording you were starting to started recording you were starting to tell me you go here's my theory of why tell me you go here's my theory of why tell me you go here's my theory of why people like this podcast. So what is people like this podcast. So what is people like this podcast. So what is your theory? your theory? your theory? >> Okay so there are many reasons to love >> Okay so there are many reasons to love >> Okay so there are many reasons to love my first million. I think there's my first million. I think there's my first million. I think there's something that you guys have done, something that you guys have done, something that you guys have done, especially recently, when you and Sam especially recently, when you and Sam especially recently, when you and Sam just go back and forth, and you tell a just go back and forth, and you tell a just go back and forth, and you tell a really funny joke, and then Sam just really funny joke, and then Sam just really funny joke, and then Sam just starts laughing hysterically, like in a starts laughing hysterically, like in a starts laughing hysterically, like in a contagious way that uh most people would contagious way that uh most people would contagious way that uh most people would hold back, maybe on a podcast, but it's hold back, maybe on a podcast, but it's hold back, maybe on a podcast, but it's it's literally, as people say, like it's literally, as people say, like it's literally, as people say, like you're in the room with him. And it you're in the room with him. And it you're in the room with him. And it reminded me of this subreddit I found reminded me of this subreddit I found reminded me of this subreddit I found recently called r/contagious laughter. recently called r/contagious laughter. recently called r/contagious laughter. 4.5 million people subscribe to this and 4.5 million people subscribe to this and 4.5 million people subscribe to this and it's one of I think the top hundred it's one of I think the top hundred it's one of I think the top hundred subreddits out there and it's literally subreddits out there and it's literally subreddits out there and it's literally just a feed of people laughing just a feed of people laughing just a feed of people laughing >> and there's there's dozens of posts >> and there's there's dozens of posts >> and there's there's dozens of posts every day and I I was just as I went every day and I I was just as I went every day and I I was just as I went down it I was like there's got to be a down it I was like there's got to be a down it I was like there's got to be a post of Sam and Sean posted here. post of Sam and Sean posted here. post of Sam and Sean posted here. >> Well, okay, let me tell you a couple >> Well, okay, let me tell you a couple >> Well, okay, let me tell you a couple interesting things about this. First, I interesting things about this. First, I interesting things about this. First, I think this must I think this subreddit think this must I think this subreddit think this must I think this subreddit must be kind of like almost like new or must be kind of like almost like new or must be kind of like almost like new or growing faster recently, right? because growing faster recently, right? because growing faster recently, right? because I hadn't heard of this subreddit before I hadn't heard of this subreddit before I hadn't heard of this subreddit before and I kind of keep an eye on on the top. and I kind of keep an eye on on the top. and I kind of keep an eye on on the top. Maybe I just missed it, but I've also Maybe I just missed it, but I've also Maybe I just missed it, but I've also seen this trend on TikTok. I don't know seen this trend on TikTok. I don't know seen this trend on TikTok. I don't know if you've seen it. Somebody would be if you've seen it. Somebody would be if you've seen it. Somebody would be like, "I'm a clinical psychologist and I like, "I'm a clinical psychologist and I like, "I'm a clinical psychologist and I can make you happier in the next 10 can make you happier in the next 10 can make you happier in the next 10 seconds. Repeat after me. Ha." And seconds. Repeat after me. Ha." And seconds. Repeat after me. Ha." And there's like a duet. So that guy's like, there's like a duet. So that guy's like, there's like a duet. So that guy's like, "Ha." She's like, "Haha haha haha." And "Ha." She's like, "Haha haha haha." And "Ha." She's like, "Haha haha haha." And you're just like, "Okay, I see where you're just like, "Okay, I see where you're just like, "Okay, I see where this is going." And then she just gets this is going." And then she just gets this is going." And then she just gets like, "Haha." And like by the end both like, "Haha." And like by the end both like, "Haha." And like by the end both people are just cracking up like cuz people are just cracking up like cuz people are just cracking up like cuz it's like 10 deep. and uh you can't help it's like 10 deep. and uh you can't help it's like 10 deep. and uh you can't help yourself like the body will just start yourself like the body will just start yourself like the body will just start like genuinely laughing just from making like genuinely laughing just from making like genuinely laughing just from making the sound. Like it goes both ways. It's the sound. Like it goes both ways. It's the sound. Like it goes both ways. It's not like something funny happens. not like something funny happens. not like something funny happens. Therefore, I break out laughing. Therefore, I break out laughing. Therefore, I break out laughing. >> Totally. One of the funniest moments on >> Totally. One of the funniest moments on >> Totally. One of the funniest moments on My First Million was your Orlando Bloom My First Million was your Orlando Bloom My First Million was your Orlando Bloom story, which I think if I just heard you story, which I think if I just heard you story, which I think if I just heard you telling it by yourself, I'd be like, telling it by yourself, I'd be like, telling it by yourself, I'd be like, "Yeah, that's pretty funny." But Sam's "Yeah, that's pretty funny." But Sam's "Yeah, that's pretty funny." But Sam's laughter layered onto that where he was laughter layered onto that where he was laughter layered onto that where he was you could just tell he was dying as you you could just tell he was dying as you you could just tell he was dying as you were telling that story just made it were telling that story just made it were telling that story just made it honestly top five moments on my first honestly top five moments on my first honestly top five moments on my first million history for me. But that's why I million history for me. But that's why I million history for me. But that's why I think this subreddit is so great. Even think this subreddit is so great. Even think this subreddit is so great. Even in their rules or their like community in their rules or their like community in their rules or their like community guidelines, you know how someone posts guidelines, you know how someone posts guidelines, you know how someone posts something and there's typically a bot something and there's typically a bot something and there's typically a bot that says, "Hey, report this if x, y, that says, "Hey, report this if x, y, that says, "Hey, report this if x, y, and zed." On that subreddit, it's like, and zed." On that subreddit, it's like, and zed." On that subreddit, it's like, "Report this if you're laughing at a "Report this if you're laughing at a "Report this if you're laughing at a joke or some sort of incident." And not joke or some sort of incident." And not joke or some sort of incident." And not the laughter specifically. They're like, the laughter specifically. They're like, the laughter specifically. They're like, "We only want you to be on here to hear "We only want you to be on here to hear "We only want you to be on here to hear other people laughing." So, I don't other people laughing." So, I don't other people laughing." So, I don't know. I just thought that was like a fun know. I just thought that was like a fun know. I just thought that was like a fun a fun thing and reminded me of why I a fun thing and reminded me of why I a fun thing and reminded me of why I think some people love my first million. think some people love my first million. think some people love my first million. It's just so authentic. It's just so authentic. It's just so authentic. >> That's just Sam being Sam and you're >> That's just Sam being Sam and you're >> That's just Sam being Sam and you're like, "Whoa, okay. like, "Whoa, okay. like, "Whoa, okay. I just get to be that." Uh, that's I just get to be that." Uh, that's I just get to be that." Uh, that's awesome. awesome. awesome. >> That is awesome.