Standing vs. Seated Overhead Press : Why You're Leaving Gains on the Table | Mind Pump 2838

Shoulder presses are great for your Shoulder presses are great for your delts, but if you always do them sitting delts, but if you always do them sitting delts, but if you always do them sitting down, you're missing out on gains. Try down, you're missing out on gains. Try down, you're missing out on gains. Try doing them standing. Watch what happens doing them standing. Watch what happens doing them standing. Watch what happens to your shoulder development and the to your shoulder development and the to your shoulder development and the rest of your body. rest of your body. rest of your body. >> Yeah, stand. >> Yeah, stand. >> Yeah, stand. >> I know. You know who talked about this? >> I know. You know who talked about this? >> I know. You know who talked about this? >> First time you're talking about peeing, >> First time you're talking about peeing, >> First time you're talking about peeing, boo. boo. boo. >> Who? No. >> Who? No. >> Who? No. >> While pressing. >> While pressing. >> While pressing. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Thanks, Justin. >> Thanks, Justin. >> Thanks, Justin. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Um, you know, sit down while I do. >> Um, you know, sit down while I do. >> Um, you know, sit down while I do. >> Come on, guys. Stay on track. You know >> Come on, guys. Stay on track. You know >> Come on, guys. Stay on track. You know who used to do um who talked about this who used to do um who talked about this who used to do um who talked about this for a little bit? Someone very for a little bit? Someone very for a little bit? Someone very unexpected. unexpected. unexpected. >> Jay Culler. >> Jay Culler. >> Jay Culler. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Jay Cutler when he was Mr. Olympia. >> Jay Cutler when he was Mr. Olympia. >> Jay Cutler when he was Mr. Olympia. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> I didn't know that. >> Yeah, because you know at that level of >> Yeah, because you know at that level of >> Yeah, because you know at that level of pro bodybuilding, these guys are pro bodybuilding, these guys are pro bodybuilding, these guys are massive. massive. massive. >> You're allowed to sit down. >> You're allowed to sit down. >> You're allowed to sit down. >> You're so big. Yeah. >> You're so big. Yeah. >> You're so big. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're so big and heavy and just >> You're so big and heavy and just >> You're so big and heavy and just overdevelopment, you know, sitting down overdevelopment, you know, sitting down overdevelopment, you know, sitting down might be advantageous, you would think. might be advantageous, you would think. might be advantageous, you would think. But he said that I don't remember who it But he said that I don't remember who it But he said that I don't remember who it was that convinced him uh to start doing was that convinced him uh to start doing was that convinced him uh to start doing some overhead presses standing. and he some overhead presses standing. and he some overhead presses standing. and he talked about how it really developed the talked about how it really developed the talked about how it really developed the caps. That's a bodybuilding term for the caps. That's a bodybuilding term for the caps. That's a bodybuilding term for the roundness to his delts. But just from a roundness to his delts. But just from a roundness to his delts. But just from a functional standpoint, um, standing, functional standpoint, um, standing, functional standpoint, um, standing, you're still working the delts, but you're still working the delts, but you're still working the delts, but you're you're really activating the you're you're really activating the you're you're really activating the whole body. You're totally grounded. You whole body. You're totally grounded. You whole body. You're totally grounded. You get real good core stability. And and get real good core stability. And and get real good core stability. And and the real big one for me is that thoracic the real big one for me is that thoracic the real big one for me is that thoracic uh uh activation, that kind of upper uh uh activation, that kind of upper uh uh activation, that kind of upper back activation that's required to do a back activation that's required to do a back activation that's required to do a really good really good really good >> There's got to be more >> There's got to be more >> There's got to be more Yeah, I mean just based on your Yeah, I mean just based on your Yeah, I mean just based on your stabilizing with your core, your legs a stabilizing with your core, your legs a stabilizing with your core, your legs a lot more. There's more contraction lot more. There's more contraction lot more. There's more contraction happening all at once. Uh so yeah, I've happening all at once. Uh so yeah, I've happening all at once. Uh so yeah, I've always preferred it. I wouldn't make the always preferred it. I wouldn't make the always preferred it. I wouldn't make the case that my shoulders look any better case that my shoulders look any better case that my shoulders look any better or different. But that's interesting. or different. But that's interesting. or different. But that's interesting. >> Yeah. And you know what's interesting >> Yeah. And you know what's interesting >> Yeah. And you know what's interesting about that too, Justin, because you I about that too, Justin, because you I about that too, Justin, because you I think some people like I could press think some people like I could press think some people like I could press heavier seated, but I think the the heavier seated, but I think the the heavier seated, but I think the the heaviest presses overhead are all heaviest presses overhead are all heaviest presses overhead are all standing. standing. standing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Which which you which >> Which which you which >> Which which you which >> is that true? all the records or seated >> is that true? all the records or seated >> is that true? all the records or seated >> ones I've seen. Yeah, >> ones I've seen. Yeah, >> ones I've seen. Yeah, >> I don't think we have a record of like >> I don't think we have a record of like >> I don't think we have a record of like an actual written record of like how an actual written record of like how an actual written record of like how much people have done seated, much people have done seated, much people have done seated, >> but um the heaviest I've ever seen. >> but um the heaviest I've ever seen. >> but um the heaviest I've ever seen. Well, Olympic lifters. Well, Olympic lifters. Well, Olympic lifters. >> Well, cuz there's no real competition >> Well, cuz there's no real competition >> Well, cuz there's no real competition for that. Like I don't think anybody's for that. Like I don't think anybody's for that. Like I don't think anybody's kind of put that as part of the exercise kind of put that as part of the exercise kind of put that as part of the exercise to compete with. But it'd be interesting to compete with. But it'd be interesting to compete with. But it'd be interesting to see if like to see if like to see if like >> somebody that can lift standing overhead >> somebody that can lift standing overhead >> somebody that can lift standing overhead like that like if they could do more like that like if they could do more like that like if they could do more seated or less. seated or less. seated or less. >> Yeah. Well, you also get the benefit >> Yeah. Well, you also get the benefit >> Yeah. Well, you also get the benefit even though this becomes a bit of a even though this becomes a bit of a even though this becomes a bit of a different exercise, but you you're you different exercise, but you you're you different exercise, but you you're you can't do it seated is and and Justin was can't do it seated is and and Justin was can't do it seated is and and Justin was the one who really got me to start doing the one who really got me to start doing the one who really got me to start doing this cuz I was a a longtime this cuz I was a a longtime this cuz I was a a longtime >> uh shoulder press person who sat down >> uh shoulder press person who sat down >> uh shoulder press person who sat down always. I never did standing presses. It always. I never did standing presses. It always. I never did standing presses. It wasn't until I think I did started wasn't until I think I did started wasn't until I think I did started lifting with Justin lifting with Justin lifting with Justin >> that and I would do the push press >> that and I would do the push press >> that and I would do the push press >> and being able You can't do that seated. >> and being able You can't do that seated. >> and being able You can't do that seated. >> Yeah. and penal to throw a little >> Yeah. and penal to throw a little >> Yeah. and penal to throw a little English on it and actually use leg drive English on it and actually use leg drive English on it and actually use leg drive uh would put me in a a shoulder press uh would put me in a a shoulder press uh would put me in a a shoulder press that I'd never done weightwise. And so that I'd never done weightwise. And so that I'd never done weightwise. And so that alone blew my shoulders up. So that alone blew my shoulders up. So that alone blew my shoulders up. So there was some just from that alone there was some just from that alone there was some just from that alone there's like tremendous value. And there's like tremendous value. And there's like tremendous value. And obviously until you learn how to strict obviously until you learn how to strict obviously until you learn how to strict press standing and do that, press standing and do that, press standing and do that, >> you probably shouldn't be doing a heavy >> you probably shouldn't be doing a heavy >> you probably shouldn't be doing a heavy push press. But once you learn that push press. But once you learn that push press. But once you learn that those fundamentals down and then you can those fundamentals down and then you can those fundamentals down and then you can actually put a little English on it and actually put a little English on it and actually put a little English on it and use some leg drive and really move some use some leg drive and really move some use some leg drive and really move some weight. And I think pressing that heavy weight. And I think pressing that heavy weight. And I think pressing that heavy of load over my head, stabilizing the of load over my head, stabilizing the of load over my head, stabilizing the weight in a in a locked out position too weight in a in a locked out position too weight in a in a locked out position too was incredible for my shoulders. You was incredible for my shoulders. You was incredible for my shoulders. You know, you're going to get people cuz know, you're going to get people cuz know, you're going to get people cuz we'll get this sometimes when we do um we'll get this sometimes when we do um we'll get this sometimes when we do um you know, like we've done this actually you know, like we've done this actually you know, like we've done this actually happened recently where we did a happened recently where we did a happened recently where we did a exercise ranking post and we ranked pull exercise ranking post and we ranked pull exercise ranking post and we ranked pull downs low but pull-ups real high and downs low but pull-ups real high and downs low but pull-ups real high and there was some dude that's like it's the there was some dude that's like it's the there was some dude that's like it's the same exercise. It's the same it's not same exercise. It's the same it's not same exercise. It's the same it's not the same exercise. It's a the same exercise. It's a the same exercise. It's a >> the same muscles are involved uh but >> the same muscles are involved uh but >> the same muscles are involved uh but it's not the same uh exercise. Um, and it's not the same uh exercise. Um, and it's not the same uh exercise. Um, and anybody who does lots of pull-ups versus anybody who does lots of pull-ups versus anybody who does lots of pull-ups versus pull downs or vice versa will tell you pull downs or vice versa will tell you pull downs or vice versa will tell you uh that it's different even though uh that it's different even though uh that it's different even though you're working the same muscles. Um, but you're working the same muscles. Um, but you're working the same muscles. Um, but even Okay, so even if we look at a even Okay, so even if we look at a even Okay, so even if we look at a seated overhead press and a standing seated overhead press and a standing seated overhead press and a standing overhead press, overhead press, overhead press, >> far more similar than a pull-up to a >> far more similar than a pull-up to a >> far more similar than a pull-up to a pull down, right? Wouldn't you agree? pull down, right? Wouldn't you agree? pull down, right? Wouldn't you agree? They're more similar. Okay. They're more similar. Okay. They're more similar. Okay. >> So, let's just say uh that they were um >> So, let's just say uh that they were um >> So, let's just say uh that they were um identical in terms of the what they identical in terms of the what they identical in terms of the what they could do in terms of development of the could do in terms of development of the could do in terms of development of the delves. Let's just say that they were delves. Let's just say that they were delves. Let's just say that they were same. Okay, same. Okay, same. Okay, >> same exercise, seated standing. They're >> same exercise, seated standing. They're >> same exercise, seated standing. They're going to build your delts in an going to build your delts in an going to build your delts in an identical way. Um, as a trainer, um, and identical way. Um, as a trainer, um, and identical way. Um, as a trainer, um, and anybody who's listening right now, anybody who's listening right now, anybody who's listening right now, whenever that happens and you have two whenever that happens and you have two whenever that happens and you have two exercises, exercises, exercises, aside from other factors like injury or aside from other factors like injury or aside from other factors like injury or convenience or something like that, convenience or something like that, convenience or something like that, right? Let's say everything is equal and right? Let's say everything is equal and right? Let's say everything is equal and you want to pick a version. It's a good you want to pick a version. It's a good you want to pick a version. It's a good idea to pick the version that's probably idea to pick the version that's probably idea to pick the version that's probably going to translate uh to the real world going to translate uh to the real world going to translate uh to the real world more often. more often. more often. >> Mhm. And being able to press something >> Mhm. And being able to press something >> Mhm. And being able to press something heavy while standing heavy while standing heavy while standing uh is going to give you much more uh is going to give you much more uh is going to give you much more carryover to the real world. carryover to the real world. carryover to the real world. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Much more. >> Much more. >> Much more. >> What What else would you press? >> What What else would you press? >> What What else would you press? >> What are you lifting something over your >> What are you lifting something over your >> What are you lifting something over your head while you're sitting down? head while you're sitting down? head while you're sitting down? >> Yeah. I don't I'm trying to think if >> Yeah. I don't I'm trying to think if >> Yeah. I don't I'm trying to think if there was there was there was >> I don't know. Maybe your kid or >> I don't know. Maybe your kid or >> I don't know. Maybe your kid or something, but that's about it. something, but that's about it. something, but that's about it. >> Oh, playing around or whatever. Yeah. I >> Oh, playing around or whatever. Yeah. I >> Oh, playing around or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I'm trying to think if don't know. Yeah. I'm trying to think if don't know. Yeah. I'm trying to think if there is there ever been a time where I there is there ever been a time where I there is there ever been a time where I was sitting down and I lifted something was sitting down and I lifted something was sitting down and I lifted something over my head. over my head. over my head. It's always It's always It's always just yesterday I was I stopped by my just yesterday I was I stopped by my just yesterday I was I stopped by my mother-in-law's house. mother-in-law's house. mother-in-law's house. >> Her uh her wine fridge went out and so >> Her uh her wine fridge went out and so >> Her uh her wine fridge went out and so she had to buy a a whole new she had to buy a a whole new she had to buy a a whole new refrigerator freezer motor or whatever refrigerator freezer motor or whatever refrigerator freezer motor or whatever you call it or whatever. But this big you call it or whatever. But this big you call it or whatever. But this big heavy thing that I had to press up over heavy thing that I had to press up over heavy thing that I had to press up over my head and then slide it in. And it was my head and then slide it in. And it was my head and then slide it in. And it was uh it was hard. But it's like makes me uh it was hard. But it's like makes me uh it was hard. But it's like makes me think like there's never been a time think like there's never been a time think like there's never been a time where I've had to do something like that where I've had to do something like that where I've had to do something like that in this the seated position where you in this the seated position where you in this the seated position where you know you would you would sit down and know you would you would sit down and know you would you would sit down and lift something heavy above your head. lift something heavy above your head. lift something heavy above your head. You would never do that. You would never do that. You would never do that. >> And and you could you could I I could >> And and you could you could I I could >> And and you could you could I I could make the argument that a standing make the argument that a standing make the argument that a standing overhead press uh is the ultimate upper overhead press uh is the ultimate upper overhead press uh is the ultimate upper body uh expression of strength. Uh I body uh expression of strength. Uh I body uh expression of strength. Uh I could definitely make that argument. could definitely make that argument. could definitely make that argument. >> Like you could pick any other upper body >> Like you could pick any other upper body >> Like you could pick any other upper body exercise uh not lower body, right? So, exercise uh not lower body, right? So, exercise uh not lower body, right? So, we're taking out lower body stuff. So, a we're taking out lower body stuff. So, a we're taking out lower body stuff. So, a deadlift would be considered lower body deadlift would be considered lower body deadlift would be considered lower body as well. But if you take all the upper as well. But if you take all the upper as well. But if you take all the upper body exercises, body exercises, body exercises, uh which one do you think would uh uh which one do you think would uh uh which one do you think would uh communicate this person's really strong communicate this person's really strong communicate this person's really strong the most? Uh I think it would be the the most? Uh I think it would be the the most? Uh I think it would be the standing overhead press. And this was standing overhead press. And this was standing overhead press. And this was how strength athletes in the past used how strength athletes in the past used how strength athletes in the past used to compete. So, back in the day, uh the to compete. So, back in the day, uh the to compete. So, back in the day, uh the bronze era, they would call it of uh bronze era, they would call it of uh bronze era, they would call it of uh strength training, you would have these strength training, you would have these strength training, you would have these strong men and women. There were strong men and women. There were strong men and women. There were actually a few women that would compete actually a few women that would compete actually a few women that would compete as well. Very few, but there were some. as well. Very few, but there were some. as well. Very few, but there were some. >> And they would uh do these feats of >> And they would uh do these feats of >> And they would uh do these feats of strength. And there were a few lifts strength. And there were a few lifts strength. And there were a few lifts that they would do. The one- arm bent that they would do. The one- arm bent that they would do. The one- arm bent press was one very unique lift. press was one very unique lift. press was one very unique lift. >> There was a hip lift that they did >> There was a hip lift that they did >> There was a hip lift that they did >> which is uh it's it's almost like a hip >> which is uh it's it's almost like a hip >> which is uh it's it's almost like a hip thrust. thrust. thrust. >> Hip bridge. Yeah. >> Hip bridge. Yeah. >> Hip bridge. Yeah. >> Yes. Uh but the but the most common was >> Yes. Uh but the but the most common was >> Yes. Uh but the but the most common was was how much can you lift up over your was how much can you lift up over your was how much can you lift up over your head? And it was just universally known head? And it was just universally known head? And it was just universally known to be this is what shows how strong you to be this is what shows how strong you to be this is what shows how strong you are. Can you pick something up and lift are. Can you pick something up and lift are. Can you pick something up and lift it up over your head? In fact, if you it up over your head? In fact, if you it up over your head? In fact, if you watch old cartoons, watch old cartoons, watch old cartoons, >> what exercise do they always demonstrate >> what exercise do they always demonstrate >> what exercise do they always demonstrate in a cartoon to show how strong the in a cartoon to show how strong the in a cartoon to show how strong the character is? Lifting something character is? Lifting something character is? Lifting something >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> overhead. We know this instinctively. >> overhead. We know this instinctively. >> overhead. We know this instinctively. And it's it's an exercise that displays And it's it's an exercise that displays And it's it's an exercise that displays strength. strength. strength. >> If you had to >> If you had to >> If you had to uh only do two lifts for the rest of uh only do two lifts for the rest of uh only do two lifts for the rest of your life, it would your life, it would your life, it would >> squat and overhead press. >> squat and overhead press. >> squat and overhead press. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That would cover the bases. Yeah. I >> That would cover the bases. Yeah. I >> That would cover the bases. Yeah. I mean, I would mean, I would mean, I would >> I mean, if you just were mean, >> I mean, if you just were mean, >> I mean, if you just were mean, >> and if you had to pick just Yeah, >> and if you had to pick just Yeah, >> and if you had to pick just Yeah, exactly. You have to pick just two. exactly. You have to pick just two. exactly. You have to pick just two. Okay. If we we're playing this game, Okay. If we we're playing this game, Okay. If we we're playing this game, >> you're directly opposing gravity. I >> you're directly opposing gravity. I >> you're directly opposing gravity. I mean, mean, mean, >> and and and and think about that for a >> and and and and think about that for a >> and and and and think about that for a second. Somebody who got really strong second. Somebody who got really strong second. Somebody who got really strong at just squatting and just overhead at just squatting and just overhead at just squatting and just overhead pressing is going to have some pretty pressing is going to have some pretty pressing is going to have some pretty good just overall general strength good just overall general strength good just overall general strength everywhere. You're obviously missing a everywhere. You're obviously missing a everywhere. You're obviously missing a good pulling movement, right? And and good pulling movement, right? And and good pulling movement, right? And and that you that would be a bit of a that you that would be a bit of a that you that would be a bit of a hindrance. If you add into that taking hindrance. If you add into that taking hindrance. If you add into that taking the weight up off the floor and then the weight up off the floor and then the weight up off the floor and then pressing up overhead. pressing up overhead. pressing up overhead. >> True. >> True. >> True. >> Well, now you're done. >> Well, now you're done. >> Well, now you're done. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now you're now it's a done deal. >> Now you're now it's a done deal. >> Now you're now it's a done deal. >> Yeah. Cuz you have to clean it up. >> Yeah. Cuz you have to clean it up. >> Yeah. Cuz you have to clean it up. >> Now you got everything. >> Now you got everything. >> Now you got everything. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But it's it's uh it's an exercise >> Yeah. But it's it's uh it's an exercise >> Yeah. But it's it's uh it's an exercise that um you know I still go to that um you know I still go to that um you know I still go to commercial gyms and I see a lot of commercial gyms and I see a lot of commercial gyms and I see a lot of overhead presses. It's a very popular overhead presses. It's a very popular overhead presses. It's a very popular exercise whether it's machine or free exercise whether it's machine or free exercise whether it's machine or free weight and for good reason. It's a great weight and for good reason. It's a great weight and for good reason. It's a great exercise. It's great for shoulder health exercise. It's great for shoulder health exercise. It's great for shoulder health especially if you do a full range of especially if you do a full range of especially if you do a full range of motion. you're getting the scapula motion. you're getting the scapula motion. you're getting the scapula involved with the humorous and it keeps involved with the humorous and it keeps involved with the humorous and it keeps your shoulders healthy. Um, it's just a your shoulders healthy. Um, it's just a your shoulders healthy. Um, it's just a great exercise for aesthetics. Uh, so great exercise for aesthetics. Uh, so great exercise for aesthetics. Uh, so that's why people love doing them. But I that's why people love doing them. But I that's why people love doing them. But I rarely ever see a standing barbell rarely ever see a standing barbell rarely ever see a standing barbell overhead press. overhead press. overhead press. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It's actually more rare than a deadlift >> It's actually more rare than a deadlift >> It's actually more rare than a deadlift or squat nowadays. or squat nowadays. or squat nowadays. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. >> Which is crazy to me because u Yeah. >> Which is crazy to me because u Yeah. >> Which is crazy to me because u Yeah. It's a it's a phenomenal everybody does It's a it's a phenomenal everybody does It's a it's a phenomenal everybody does I see a lot of seated overhead presses. I see a lot of seated overhead presses. I see a lot of seated overhead presses. >> Yeah. But >> Yeah. But >> Yeah. But >> I wouldn't say that's even even that's a >> I wouldn't say that's even even that's a >> I wouldn't say that's even even that's a little bit if if there's ever little bit if if there's ever little bit if if there's ever >> I see them way more than I do. >> I see them way more than I do. >> I see them way more than I do. >> Yeah, I agree. If but I mean I tell you >> Yeah, I agree. If but I mean I tell you >> Yeah, I agree. If but I mean I tell you what the the military bench is pro the what the the military bench is pro the what the the military bench is pro the barbell military press is probably one barbell military press is probably one barbell military press is probably one of the most emptied pieces of equipment of the most emptied pieces of equipment of the most emptied pieces of equipment in the gym. It's one of them in the gym. It's one of them in the gym. It's one of them >> shoulder pressing because most people >> shoulder pressing because most people >> shoulder pressing because most people that do shoulder press either dumbbell that do shoulder press either dumbbell that do shoulder press either dumbbell shoulder press or machine shoulder shoulder press or machine shoulder shoulder press or machine shoulder press. press. press. >> That's true. That's true. >> That's true. That's true. >> That's true. That's true. >> Yeah, that's that's one or the other. >> Yeah, that's that's one or the other. >> Yeah, that's that's one or the other. But that being said, I'll see people But that being said, I'll see people But that being said, I'll see people doing seated military press with the doing seated military press with the doing seated military press with the barbell 10 times more. Actually, I'm barbell 10 times more. Actually, I'm barbell 10 times more. Actually, I'm trying to think right now, trying to think right now, trying to think right now, >> the last as long as I can think how how >> the last as long as I can think how how >> the last as long as I can think how how often I saw standing overhead press. I often I saw standing overhead press. I often I saw standing overhead press. I don't think I've seen one. don't think I've seen one. don't think I've seen one. >> Yeah. No, it's interesting you point >> Yeah. No, it's interesting you point >> Yeah. No, it's interesting you point that out because I Yeah. Just going back that out because I Yeah. Just going back that out because I Yeah. Just going back to the commercial gym setting, um it to the commercial gym setting, um it to the commercial gym setting, um it even with all the squat racks and even with all the squat racks and even with all the squat racks and everything, you know, how it's changed, everything, you know, how it's changed, everything, you know, how it's changed, I don't see the overhead press a lot. I don't see the overhead press a lot. I don't see the overhead press a lot. The barbell. Yeah. The barbell. Yeah. The barbell. Yeah. >> No. And you know what's funny? What's >> No. And you know what's funny? What's >> No. And you know what's funny? What's crazy about this is cuz here's some of crazy about this is cuz here's some of crazy about this is cuz here's some of the complaints that you'll get from some the complaints that you'll get from some the complaints that you'll get from some people. They'll say, "Well, why do you people. They'll say, "Well, why do you people. They'll say, "Well, why do you do it seated? Standing hurts my back." do it seated? Standing hurts my back." do it seated? Standing hurts my back." That's a very common Yeah. That's a very common Yeah. That's a very common Yeah. >> thing that you'll hear from someone. So, >> thing that you'll hear from someone. So, >> thing that you'll hear from someone. So, seated, they could do it. seated, they could do it. seated, they could do it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now, why does it hurt your back >> Now, why does it hurt your back >> Now, why does it hurt your back standing? Well, it requires more standing? Well, it requires more standing? Well, it requires more stability. stability. stability. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and that's not a bad thing. That's a >> And and that's not a bad thing. That's a >> And and that's not a bad thing. That's a good thing. So, lighten the load. And good thing. So, lighten the load. And good thing. So, lighten the load. And I'm going to tell you right now, uh if I'm going to tell you right now, uh if I'm going to tell you right now, uh if you get good at a standing overhead you get good at a standing overhead you get good at a standing overhead press, unrackck a weight even. Don't press, unrackck a weight even. Don't press, unrackck a weight even. Don't clean it. Just unrackck it and come clean it. Just unrackck it and come clean it. Just unrackck it and come back. I think your strength potential is back. I think your strength potential is back. I think your strength potential is higher with the standing press which higher with the standing press which higher with the standing press which which you know we've added complexity which you know we've added complexity which you know we've added complexity and yet we can get stronger at it than and yet we can get stronger at it than and yet we can get stronger at it than the other version. There's a lot of the other version. There's a lot of the other version. There's a lot of gains that are missing or that people gains that are missing or that people gains that are missing or that people are leaving on the table because they are leaving on the table because they are leaving on the table because they choose the seated ver version. choose the seated ver version. choose the seated ver version. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Over the standing version. >> Over the standing version. >> Over the standing version. >> Yeah. I mean I would ar I would argue >> Yeah. I mean I would ar I would argue >> Yeah. I mean I would ar I would argue that it's become this is why I think the that it's become this is why I think the that it's become this is why I think the prerequisite to that is a Zpress. It's prerequisite to that is a Zpress. It's prerequisite to that is a Zpress. It's just that's why I love the Z press so just that's why I love the Z press so just that's why I love the Z press so much. I much. I much. 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I I would have I would have had everybody everybody everybody >> In fact, had I seen it, I would have >> In fact, had I seen it, I would have >> In fact, had I seen it, I would have disregarded it. It wasn't until we were disregarded it. It wasn't until we were disregarded it. It wasn't until we were taught it and then someone sold it. taught it and then someone sold it. taught it and then someone sold it. >> You don't realize how tough it is till >> You don't realize how tough it is till >> You don't realize how tough it is till you go to perform the movement. It's you go to perform the movement. It's you go to perform the movement. It's crazy. crazy. crazy. >> And also just like how how how safe and >> And also just like how how how safe and >> And also just like how how how safe and good it is to like to teach somebody. good it is to like to teach somebody. good it is to like to teach somebody. Like I mean that would be like a if I Like I mean that would be like a if I Like I mean that would be like a if I was a trainer right now, putting was a trainer right now, putting was a trainer right now, putting somebody in a Z press and just doing the somebody in a Z press and just doing the somebody in a Z press and just doing the bar would be like bar would be like bar would be like >> that's the qualifier. >> that's the qualifier. >> that's the qualifier. >> Yeah, exactly. I would just get them >> Yeah, exactly. I would just get them >> Yeah, exactly. I would just get them good. You get a client good at that, good. You get a client good at that, good. You get a client good at that, really good at that and then they're really good at that and then they're really good at that and then they're ready for a standing overhead press. ready for a standing overhead press. ready for a standing overhead press. >> Like they'll they'll get once they get >> Like they'll they'll get once they get >> Like they'll they'll get once they get good at that that that will prep their good at that that that will prep their good at that that that will prep their their core, their shoulder mobility, the their core, their shoulder mobility, the their core, their shoulder mobility, the thoracic mobility, thoracic mobility, thoracic mobility, >> and then now they're ready to get up now >> and then now they're ready to get up now >> and then now they're ready to get up now stand and load and like let's press this stand and load and like let's press this stand and load and like let's press this thing. Um, I ju I think it's such a such thing. Um, I ju I think it's such a such thing. Um, I ju I think it's such a such a under underutilized movement. Uh, I a under underutilized movement. Uh, I a under underutilized movement. Uh, I wish I saw more. Every once in a while I wish I saw more. Every once in a while I wish I saw more. Every once in a while I I still I see it every once in a while I still I see it every once in a while I still I see it every once in a while now. I mean, I don't know if that's our now. I mean, I don't know if that's our now. I mean, I don't know if that's our influence or not. influence or not. influence or not. >> Yeah, I think so. >> Yeah, I think so. >> Yeah, I think so. >> Yeah, I've seen I've seen it before. >> Yeah, I've seen I've seen it before. >> Yeah, I've seen I've seen it before. >> What's interesting to me is uh and this >> What's interesting to me is uh and this >> What's interesting to me is uh and this is just true in the strength training is just true in the strength training is just true in the strength training space is that exercises fall in and out space is that exercises fall in and out space is that exercises fall in and out of favor. Um, and it's what it's you of favor. Um, and it's what it's you of favor. Um, and it's what it's you would think that the ones fall out of would think that the ones fall out of would think that the ones fall out of favor is because they're not effective. favor is because they're not effective. favor is because they're not effective. That's just not true. Uh, I think That's just not true. Uh, I think That's just not true. Uh, I think sometimes what falls out of favor is sometimes what falls out of favor is sometimes what falls out of favor is just what's hard. just what's hard. just what's hard. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh, like it wasn't that long ago. So, if >> Uh, like it wasn't that long ago. So, if >> Uh, like it wasn't that long ago. So, if you're listening to this now and you're, you're listening to this now and you're, you're listening to this now and you're, you know, you're younger than 30, this you know, you're younger than 30, this you know, you're younger than 30, this isn't going to make any sense to you, isn't going to make any sense to you, isn't going to make any sense to you, >> but, uh, when we were, uh, running gyms >> but, uh, when we were, uh, running gyms >> but, uh, when we were, uh, running gyms in the late 90s, early 2000s, uh, nobody in the late 90s, early 2000s, uh, nobody in the late 90s, early 2000s, uh, nobody squatted and deadlift. No, I'm not like squatted and deadlift. No, I'm not like squatted and deadlift. No, I'm not like not not even a little bit. Never. not not even a little bit. Never. not not even a little bit. Never. >> Yeah. Never. >> Yeah. Never. >> Yeah. Never. >> Deadlift. Never. Ever. Ever. >> Deadlift. Never. Ever. Ever. >> Deadlift. Never. Ever. Ever. >> Yeah. Uh, now that sounds crazy to >> Yeah. Uh, now that sounds crazy to >> Yeah. Uh, now that sounds crazy to somebody who works out in gyms now somebody who works out in gyms now somebody who works out in gyms now because you see people squatting, because you see people squatting, because you see people squatting, deadlifting all the time, but they just deadlifting all the time, but they just deadlifting all the time, but they just didn't do it. And it wasn't because didn't do it. And it wasn't because didn't do it. And it wasn't because those exercises didn't exist. They were those exercises didn't exist. They were those exercises didn't exist. They were extremely popular in the 60s and 70s and extremely popular in the 60s and 70s and extremely popular in the 60s and 70s and then 80s they started losing popularity then 80s they started losing popularity then 80s they started losing popularity and it was the '90s that they for some and it was the '90s that they for some and it was the '90s that they for some reason reason reason >> lost tons of popular and they're very >> lost tons of popular and they're very >> lost tons of popular and they're very effective exercises. And the standing effective exercises. And the standing effective exercises. And the standing overhead press, I've just noticed it. I overhead press, I've just noticed it. I overhead press, I've just noticed it. I was thinking about this recently like was thinking about this recently like was thinking about this recently like nobody does a standing shoulder press nobody does a standing shoulder press nobody does a standing shoulder press which is wild to me. It's such a great which is wild to me. It's such a great which is wild to me. It's such a great exercise. It develops incredible exercise. It develops incredible exercise. It develops incredible shoulders shoulders shoulders >> staple for me, >> staple for me, >> staple for me, >> incredible core stability. Like if you >> incredible core stability. Like if you >> incredible core stability. Like if you could do a good secure heavy standing could do a good secure heavy standing could do a good secure heavy standing overhead press, like if you've practiced overhead press, like if you've practiced overhead press, like if you've practiced it and you got good at it, it and you got good at it, it and you got good at it, >> it's one of the exercises that'll >> it's one of the exercises that'll >> it's one of the exercises that'll actually bulletproof your back, which is actually bulletproof your back, which is actually bulletproof your back, which is interesting. It's a shoulder exercise, interesting. It's a shoulder exercise, interesting. It's a shoulder exercise, but it'll bulletproof your back but it'll bulletproof your back but it'll bulletproof your back >> because you can lift. I mean, it's it's >> because you can lift. I mean, it's it's >> because you can lift. I mean, it's it's the re if I mean that's why I said that the re if I mean that's why I said that the re if I mean that's why I said that comment when we first started this comment when we first started this comment when we first started this conversation is that if you only did two conversation is that if you only did two conversation is that if you only did two movements, movements, movements, >> one of I think everybody would know >> one of I think everybody would know >> one of I think everybody would know squat is going to be one of those two. squat is going to be one of those two. squat is going to be one of those two. But I think the surprise to a lot of But I think the surprise to a lot of But I think the surprise to a lot of people be this overhead, standing people be this overhead, standing people be this overhead, standing overhead press would be the other one. overhead press would be the other one. overhead press would be the other one. >> Mh. >> Mh. >> Mh. >> Just those two movements and you take >> Just those two movements and you take >> Just those two movements and you take care of a lot. Doesn't make it's not care of a lot. Doesn't make it's not care of a lot. Doesn't make it's not perfect. perfect. perfect. >> It's not ideal. >> It's not ideal. >> It's not ideal. >> Yeah. But it's like it and and the >> Yeah. But it's like it and and the >> Yeah. But it's like it and and the reason why I think that's so important reason why I think that's so important reason why I think that's so important to communicate is because if you if you to communicate is because if you if you to communicate is because if you if you had a week that you just were so busy, had a week that you just were so busy, had a week that you just were so busy, you didn't get to the gym, you couldn't you didn't get to the gym, you couldn't you didn't get to the gym, you couldn't and you but you just went out to the and you but you just went out to the and you but you just went out to the garage and you lifted that garage and you lifted that garage and you lifted that >> lifted that that that barbell over your >> lifted that that that barbell over your >> lifted that that that barbell over your head, you know, for three sets, you head, you know, for three sets, you head, you know, for three sets, you know, standing overhead press and you know, standing overhead press and you know, standing overhead press and you just squatted it. you you boy would you just squatted it. you you boy would you just squatted it. you you boy would you keep yourself in a really good keep yourself in a really good keep yourself in a really good >> well those are the two it's funny you >> well those are the two it's funny you >> well those are the two it's funny you say that because those are the two uh say that because those are the two uh say that because those are the two uh movements that get lost as people age so movements that get lost as people age so movements that get lost as people age so people know the squat like people stop people know the squat like people stop people know the squat like people stop being able to squat this shocked me as being able to squat this shocked me as being able to squat this shocked me as an early trainer I'd train someone in an early trainer I'd train someone in an early trainer I'd train someone in their 40s that's how that's where I'm at their 40s that's how that's where I'm at their 40s that's how that's where I'm at now right but I would train people in now right but I would train people in now right but I would train people in their 40s their 40s their 40s >> who could not stand and do a full >> who could not stand and do a full >> who could not stand and do a full extension up over their head they'd move extension up over their head they'd move extension up over their head they'd move their arms up but their elbows will stay their arms up but their elbows will stay their arms up but their elbows will stay bent and then if I try and straighten bent and then if I try and straighten bent and then if I try and straighten them out they'd arch back they lost the them out they'd arch back they lost the them out they'd arch back they lost the ability to fully extend over their head. ability to fully extend over their head. ability to fully extend over their head. Yeah. You take the average person over Yeah. You take the average person over Yeah. You take the average person over 50 and that's the uh that's the rule. 50 and that's the uh that's the rule. 50 and that's the uh that's the rule. It's it's more often than not. Over 60 It's it's more often than not. Over 60 It's it's more often than not. Over 60 for sure you're not going to find people for sure you're not going to find people for sure you're not going to find people who can who can who can >> Well, yeah. I definitely think it just >> Well, yeah. I definitely think it just >> Well, yeah. I definitely think it just gets uncomfortable over time because of gets uncomfortable over time because of gets uncomfortable over time because of the degrees that your posture affects the degrees that your posture affects the degrees that your posture affects that. And it's like each time you're out that. And it's like each time you're out that. And it's like each time you're out of track, you know, just that, you know, of track, you know, just that, you know, of track, you know, just that, you know, millimeter to then a centimeter to an millimeter to then a centimeter to an millimeter to then a centimeter to an inch. And it's like it puts more stress. inch. And it's like it puts more stress. inch. And it's like it puts more stress. Uh it inevitably to where you'll get Uh it inevitably to where you'll get Uh it inevitably to where you'll get like impingement or something you're like impingement or something you're like impingement or something you're fighting. fighting. fighting. >> I I when I had older clients uh and when >> I I when I had older clients uh and when >> I I when I had older clients uh and when I started to recognize this like we do a I started to recognize this like we do a I started to recognize this like we do a shoulder press and their form would, you shoulder press and their form would, you shoulder press and their form would, you know, be real short like, "Oh, what's know, be real short like, "Oh, what's know, be real short like, "Oh, what's going on here?" going on here?" going on here?" >> Yeah. It's like forward. >> Yeah. It's like forward. >> Yeah. It's like forward. >> Yeah. It was almost like they were >> Yeah. It was almost like they were >> Yeah. It was almost like they were trying to do an incline or they'd arch trying to do an incline or they'd arch trying to do an incline or they'd arch or something. So, what I used to do is or something. So, what I used to do is or something. So, what I used to do is I'd get a a broom handle or a stick. I'd I'd get a a broom handle or a stick. I'd I'd get a a broom handle or a stick. I'd have them hold on to it and I'd push it have them hold on to it and I'd push it have them hold on to it and I'd push it up for them to hold them up into up for them to hold them up into up for them to hold them up into position and then I'd slowly let go of position and then I'd slowly let go of position and then I'd slowly let go of the stick and see if they could just the stick and see if they could just the stick and see if they could just support it and keep themselves straight. support it and keep themselves straight. support it and keep themselves straight. And we would slowly progress them to And we would slowly progress them to And we would slowly progress them to doing a shoulder press. And the the what doing a shoulder press. And the the what doing a shoulder press. And the the what I would get besides the aesthetic I would get besides the aesthetic I would get besides the aesthetic effects, right? Their arms look nice. effects, right? Their arms look nice. effects, right? Their arms look nice. They get this great, you know, They get this great, you know, They get this great, you know, development of the upper body. Besides development of the upper body. Besides development of the upper body. Besides that, they would always comment, "Oh my that, they would always comment, "Oh my that, they would always comment, "Oh my god, my posture feels so good. god, my posture feels so good. god, my posture feels so good. >> My neck isn't tight. I feel so good." >> My neck isn't tight. I feel so good." >> My neck isn't tight. I feel so good." And it's like, "You lost uh something And it's like, "You lost uh something And it's like, "You lost uh something your body's supposed to be able to do." your body's supposed to be able to do." your body's supposed to be able to do." And when you do that, everything tries And when you do that, everything tries And when you do that, everything tries to to to >> compensate and tighten up. Uh and it >> compensate and tighten up. Uh and it >> compensate and tighten up. Uh and it doesn't feel good. And it's because you doesn't feel good. And it's because you doesn't feel good. And it's because you lost the ability to do something lost the ability to do something lost the ability to do something fundamental, which is a standing fundamental, which is a standing fundamental, which is a standing overhead press. So if you're doing overhead press. So if you're doing overhead press. So if you're doing seated, switch and watch what happens to seated, switch and watch what happens to seated, switch and watch what happens to your body. And you won't be able to go your body. And you won't be able to go your body. And you won't be able to go as heavy at first. You have to get used as heavy at first. You have to get used as heavy at first. You have to get used to it. No, to it. No, to it. No, >> but you'll get way better. >> but you'll get way better. >> but you'll get way better. >> Start start light and just in fact, >> Start start light and just in fact, >> Start start light and just in fact, start light and and put the emphasis on start light and and put the emphasis on start light and and put the emphasis on the lock out over your head. the lock out over your head. the lock out over your head. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And so this is why I like the Z press >> And so this is why I like the Z press >> And so this is why I like the Z press because it forces that. because it forces that. because it forces that. >> You have to get that right. You have to >> You have to get that right. You have to >> You have to get that right. You have to you have to figure that out. And so, you you have to figure that out. And so, you you have to figure that out. And so, you know, if you know, if you can't do the know, if you know, if you can't do the know, if you know, if you can't do the standing overhead press right now, start standing overhead press right now, start standing overhead press right now, start with the Z press, then work your way to with the Z press, then work your way to with the Z press, then work your way to doing that. And yeah, just keep that doing that. And yeah, just keep that doing that. And yeah, just keep that going because it, you know, it's I'm going because it, you know, it's I'm going because it, you know, it's I'm thinking back to the clients. I I wonder thinking back to the clients. I I wonder thinking back to the clients. I I wonder um you know, did did they lose the um you know, did did they lose the um you know, did did they lose the ability to squat first or did they lose ability to squat first or did they lose ability to squat first or did they lose the ability to overhead press first? the ability to overhead press first? the ability to overhead press first? They might have lost the ability to They might have lost the ability to They might have lost the ability to overhead press first before even overhead press first before even overhead press first before even squatting. squatting. squatting. >> I don't know. That's a good question. >> I don't know. That's a good question. >> I don't know. That's a good question. >> Because even squatting, if you get up >> Because even squatting, if you get up >> Because even squatting, if you get up and down from the toilet at the chair, and down from the toilet at the chair, and down from the toilet at the chair, your car, your car, your car, >> we kind of always still kind of do that. >> we kind of always still kind of do that. >> we kind of always still kind of do that. Everybody still does that. Everybody Everybody still does that. Everybody Everybody still does that. Everybody stops pushing putting things up. We stops pushing putting things up. We stops pushing putting things up. We design our houses so we don't have to. design our houses so we don't have to. design our houses so we don't have to. >> We do. You really you really unless you >> We do. You really you really unless you >> We do. You really you really unless you train that. There's not a lot of things train that. There's not a lot of things train that. There's not a lot of things in everyday life that require you to in everyday life that require you to in everyday life that require you to lift something above your head. lift something above your head. lift something above your head. >> Now, the two things that help you do >> Now, the two things that help you do >> Now, the two things that help you do that are hanging and pushing things up that are hanging and pushing things up that are hanging and pushing things up over your head, which nobody does. over your head, which nobody does. over your head, which nobody does. >> Yeah. We we cut out all the monkey bars >> Yeah. We we cut out all the monkey bars >> Yeah. We we cut out all the monkey bars at schools and we there's nobody pushing at schools and we there's nobody pushing at schools and we there's nobody pushing anything up over their head anything up over their head anything up over their head >> where at least squatting we get up and >> where at least squatting we get up and >> where at least squatting we get up and out of chairs. So, we may have lost the out of chairs. So, we may have lost the out of chairs. So, we may have lost the range of motion to go really deep and range of motion to go really deep and range of motion to go really deep and stuff like that. We still have that stuff like that. We still have that stuff like that. We still have that hinging pattern a little bit, but hinging pattern a little bit, but hinging pattern a little bit, but overhead pressing is is is lost overhead pressing is is is lost overhead pressing is is is lost completely. I used to love doing that completely. I used to love doing that completely. I used to love doing that test with clients where you put them you test with clients where you put them you test with clients where you put them you put their their backs flat against the put their their backs flat against the put their their backs flat against the wall and you just have them raise their wall and you just have them raise their wall and you just have them raise their arm up and I mean they without they get arm up and I mean they without they get arm up and I mean they without they get right above their eye level. right above their eye level. right above their eye level. >> It's it's wild >> It's it's wild >> It's it's wild >> and they're already starting to arch. >> and they're already starting to arch. >> and they're already starting to arch. >> Big compensations to get dressed. Yeah. >> Big compensations to get dressed. Yeah. >> Big compensations to get dressed. Yeah. One of my favorite things to do with One of my favorite things to do with One of my favorite things to do with that too is they'll say, "I can't do it that too is they'll say, "I can't do it that too is they'll say, "I can't do it anymore." And I'll say, "Hey, relax your anymore." And I'll say, "Hey, relax your anymore." And I'll say, "Hey, relax your arm." and I'll bring the arm back for arm." and I'll bring the arm back for arm." and I'll bring the arm back for you. This is where look, your arm can go you. This is where look, your arm can go you. This is where look, your arm can go here. You just can't bring your arm. here. You just can't bring your arm. here. You just can't bring your arm. >> You don't have access. >> You don't have access. >> You don't have access. >> You just don't have that access. >> You just don't have that access. >> You just don't have that access. >> Such an eye opener. >> Such an eye opener. >> Such an eye opener. >> I got some uh data on BPC157 >> I got some uh data on BPC157 >> I got some uh data on BPC157 because because because >> Yeah. So, do you guys remember that? >> Yeah. So, do you guys remember that? >> Yeah. So, do you guys remember that? Okay. I brought up a study earlier. Uh Okay. I brought up a study earlier. Uh Okay. I brought up a study earlier. Uh let me pull it up here. I had brought up let me pull it up here. I had brought up let me pull it up here. I had brought up a study on an earlier podcast on how a study on an earlier podcast on how a study on an earlier podcast on how they injected people um with knee pain they injected people um with knee pain they injected people um with knee pain and I think it was like 15 out of 16 of and I think it was like 15 out of 16 of and I think it was like 15 out of 16 of them uh had dramat one injection. Okay. them uh had dramat one injection. Okay. them uh had dramat one injection. Okay. And these were all people with chronic And these were all people with chronic And these were all people with chronic knee pain. No acute injury, but like knee pain. No acute injury, but like knee pain. No acute injury, but like chronic knee issues. Um I think it was chronic knee issues. Um I think it was chronic knee issues. Um I think it was 15 out of 16 of them had like incredible 15 out of 16 of them had like incredible 15 out of 16 of them had like incredible relief that lasted a year from one shot. relief that lasted a year from one shot. relief that lasted a year from one shot. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Pretty wild. Uh I pulled up >> Yeah. Pretty wild. Uh I pulled up >> Yeah. Pretty wild. Uh I pulled up there's a lot of animal studies on BP. there's a lot of animal studies on BP. there's a lot of animal studies on BP. So that was a human study. The animal So that was a human study. The animal So that was a human study. The animal studies are crazy, dude. They're crazy. studies are crazy, dude. They're crazy. studies are crazy, dude. They're crazy. So there's one where they took a rat's So there's one where they took a rat's So there's one where they took a rat's cornea and they made a hole in it with a cornea and they made a hole in it with a cornea and they made a hole in it with a surgical blade. Then they took BPC57, surgical blade. Then they took BPC57, surgical blade. Then they took BPC57, dissolved it in water, and dropped it in dissolved it in water, and dropped it in dissolved it in water, and dropped it in the eye. 72 hours later, the hole the eye. 72 hours later, the hole the eye. 72 hours later, the hole closed. closed. closed. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> 72 hours later, the hole closed. >> 72 hours later, the hole closed. >> 72 hours later, the hole closed. >> What a weird. >> What a weird. >> What a weird. >> They did another one. >> They did another one. >> They did another one. >> I know. I just laughed cuz they were so >> I know. I just laughed cuz they were so >> I know. I just laughed cuz they were so mean animals. mean animals. mean animals. >> And and like like why that one? >> And and like like why that one? >> And and like like why that one? >> Like why that idea? >> Like why that idea? >> Like why that idea? >> Because they're testing it on different >> Because they're testing it on different >> Because they're testing it on different uh tissues different tissues and uh tissues different tissues and uh tissues different tissues and animals. Okay. It's got crazy healing animals. Okay. It's got crazy healing animals. Okay. It's got crazy healing for like the like nerves and stuff like for like the like nerves and stuff like for like the like nerves and stuff like that. So they took another that. So they took another that. So they took another >> cornea. Huh. This is another one with >> cornea. Huh. This is another one with >> cornea. Huh. This is another one with rats where they compressed or crushed a rats where they compressed or crushed a rats where they compressed or crushed a rat's spinal cord for 60 seconds. They rat's spinal cord for 60 seconds. They rat's spinal cord for 60 seconds. They gave it an injection of BPC 10 minutes gave it an injection of BPC 10 minutes gave it an injection of BPC 10 minutes after injury. The paralysis reversed by after injury. The paralysis reversed by after injury. The paralysis reversed by day 28. So it was paralyzed. day 28. So it was paralyzed. day 28. So it was paralyzed. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> 28 days later from the BPC57. Uh it was >> 28 days later from the BPC57. Uh it was >> 28 days later from the BPC57. Uh it was healed. healed. healed. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that is crazy. >> that is crazy. >> that is crazy. >> Yeah, dude. This is there is uh it is >> Yeah, dude. This is there is uh it is >> Yeah, dude. This is there is uh it is crazy. crazy. crazy. >> And they haven't done a ton of human >> And they haven't done a ton of human >> And they haven't done a ton of human studies yet. Just studies yet. Just studies yet. Just >> there are some human studies. There are >> there are some human studies. There are >> there are some human studies. There are and when this thing gets uh promoted and when this thing gets uh promoted and when this thing gets uh promoted when it gets promote when it gets when when it gets promote when it gets when when it gets promote when it gets when it's able to be prescribed directly for it's able to be prescribed directly for it's able to be prescribed directly for these things because right now you get these things because right now you get these things because right now you get it from a comp. So you can get doctor it from a comp. So you can get doctor it from a comp. So you can get doctor prescribes right. So you can go to npor prescribes right. So you can go to npor prescribes right. So you can go to npor hormones.com and they'll prescribe you hormones.com and they'll prescribe you hormones.com and they'll prescribe you they can prescribe you a peptide. they can prescribe you a peptide. they can prescribe you a peptide. >> Is this on? >> Is this on? >> Is this on? >> It's not mainstream medicine. >> It's not mainstream medicine. >> It's not mainstream medicine. >> Yeah. Is it on the list do you think for >> Yeah. Is it on the list do you think for >> Yeah. Is it on the list do you think for water or for like Yeah. water or for like Yeah. water or for like Yeah. >> Oh it is on water. >> Oh it is on water. >> Oh it is on water. >> Oh yeah. Oh it is. >> Oh yeah. Oh it is. >> Oh yeah. Oh it is. >> Maybe double check that Doug for me. >> Maybe double check that Doug for me. >> Maybe double check that Doug for me. >> Yeah. just for athletes cuz it's just >> Yeah. just for athletes cuz it's just >> Yeah. just for athletes cuz it's just like how are they picking that up? like how are they picking that up? like how are they picking that up? >> It sucks cuz like I don't see it's >> It sucks cuz like I don't see it's >> It sucks cuz like I don't see it's effective and effective and effective and >> I don't think BPC is S. Is it? >> I don't think BPC is S. Is it? >> I don't think BPC is S. Is it? >> I think it is. I think >> I think it is. I think >> I think it is. I think >> how are they picking that up? >> how are they picking that up? >> how are they picking that up? >> I think it is. I think so is thyosin >> I think it is. I think so is thyosin >> I think it is. I think so is thyosin >> beta. Oh wow. You're right. Nonapproved >> beta. Oh wow. You're right. Nonapproved >> beta. Oh wow. You're right. Nonapproved substances. I don't know how they test substances. I don't know how they test substances. I don't know how they test for it. for it. for it. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> it's a peptide your body makes. How do >> it's a peptide your body makes. How do >> it's a peptide your body makes. How do you test something that your body makes? you test something that your body makes? you test something that your body makes? >> Right. And like how long does it stay in >> Right. And like how long does it stay in >> Right. And like how long does it stay in your What's the halflife? How does it your What's the halflife? How does it your What's the halflife? How does it stay in your stay in your stay in your >> You got to use it every day. Oh wow. >> You got to use it every day. Oh wow. >> You got to use it every day. Oh wow. Somebody Somebody Somebody >> to keep athletes going. That's so >> to keep athletes going. That's so >> to keep athletes going. That's so annoying that they would put that on the annoying that they would put that on the annoying that they would put that on the band. band. band. >> I know. So, here's some of the stuff >> I know. So, here's some of the stuff >> I know. So, here's some of the stuff that it's been shown to do. Okay. By the that it's been shown to do. Okay. By the that it's been shown to do. Okay. By the way, BPC stand, you know what BPA? BPC way, BPC stand, you know what BPA? BPC way, BPC stand, you know what BPA? BPC stands for? stands for? stands for? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Body protective compound. >> Body protective compound. >> Body protective compound. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> This is a natural peptide that we find >> This is a natural peptide that we find >> This is a natural peptide that we find in gastric juices in human. So, here's in gastric juices in human. So, here's in gastric juices in human. So, here's some of the stuff that it's been shown some of the stuff that it's been shown some of the stuff that it's been shown uh with BBC. It's been shown to reverse uh with BBC. It's been shown to reverse uh with BBC. It's been shown to reverse dopamine depletion and receptor dopamine depletion and receptor dopamine depletion and receptor desensitization caused by chronic hard desensitization caused by chronic hard desensitization caused by chronic hard stimulant use. So, your dopamine system stimulant use. So, your dopamine system stimulant use. So, your dopamine system can get messed up through using lots of can get messed up through using lots of can get messed up through using lots of stimulants. helps reverse it. Uh BPC stimulants. helps reverse it. Uh BPC stimulants. helps reverse it. Uh BPC counteracts the toxic effects of alcohol counteracts the toxic effects of alcohol counteracts the toxic effects of alcohol in the liver, stomach lining, and brain. in the liver, stomach lining, and brain. in the liver, stomach lining, and brain. Simultaneously, it'll accelerate Simultaneously, it'll accelerate Simultaneously, it'll accelerate recovery of the uh of eye tissue. It recovery of the uh of eye tissue. It recovery of the uh of eye tissue. It counters NSAID induced gut damage. If counters NSAID induced gut damage. If counters NSAID induced gut damage. If you use lots of non-steridal you use lots of non-steridal you use lots of non-steridal anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, like anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, like anti-inflammatories like ibuprofen, like if you use them weekly, probably want to if you use them weekly, probably want to if you use them weekly, probably want to use BPC uh as well. It accelerates the use BPC uh as well. It accelerates the use BPC uh as well. It accelerates the closure of intestinal fistulas. It uh is closure of intestinal fistulas. It uh is closure of intestinal fistulas. It uh is good for overtraining syndrome recovery, good for overtraining syndrome recovery, good for overtraining syndrome recovery, hair follicle vascularization. So hair follicle vascularization. So hair follicle vascularization. So upregulation improves blood supply to upregulation improves blood supply to upregulation improves blood supply to follicles supporting hair density. It's follicles supporting hair density. It's follicles supporting hair density. It's good for gum tissue and parodontal good for gum tissue and parodontal good for gum tissue and parodontal health, nerve damage repair. Of course, health, nerve damage repair. Of course, health, nerve damage repair. Of course, we know this IBS and IBD symptoms. So we know this IBS and IBD symptoms. So we know this IBS and IBD symptoms. So really good for gut health, postsurgery, really good for gut health, postsurgery, really good for gut health, postsurgery, surgical recovery, acceleration, scar surgical recovery, acceleration, scar surgical recovery, acceleration, scar tissue remodeling, blood pressure tissue remodeling, blood pressure tissue remodeling, blood pressure normalization, traumatic brain injury normalization, traumatic brain injury normalization, traumatic brain injury recovery, and then mood disorders driven recovery, and then mood disorders driven recovery, and then mood disorders driven by leaky gut syndrome. Yeah. by leaky gut syndrome. Yeah. by leaky gut syndrome. Yeah. >> Wow. Dude, >> Wow. Dude, >> Wow. Dude, >> it's pretty >> it's pretty >> it's pretty >> any any >> any any >> any any >> This one, by the way, remember we had >> This one, by the way, remember we had >> This one, by the way, remember we had Dr. Seeds on and we asked them Dr. Seeds on and we asked them Dr. Seeds on and we asked them >> if there was one peptide you could take >> if there was one peptide you could take >> if there was one peptide you could take all the time. What do you say? all the time. What do you say? all the time. What do you say? >> Yeah. BPC1. >> Yeah. BPC1. >> Yeah. BPC1. >> I know. It's It's pretty evident. >> I know. It's It's pretty evident. >> I know. It's It's pretty evident. >> Can you Can you Can you take it >> Can you Can you Can you take it >> Can you Can you Can you take it indefinitely? indefinitely? indefinitely? >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> you can. >> you can. >> you can. >> That's That's what Dr. Seed said. >> That's That's what Dr. Seed said. >> That's That's what Dr. Seed said. >> He did. >> He did. >> He did. >> Yeah. He's like, "I would I use it all >> Yeah. He's like, "I would I use it all >> Yeah. He's like, "I would I use it all the time." Now, the dose goes up if you the time." Now, the dose goes up if you the time." Now, the dose goes up if you have injuries or something like that. have injuries or something like that. have injuries or something like that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But he's like, "Yeah, that's the one I >> But he's like, "Yeah, that's the one I >> But he's like, "Yeah, that's the one I would take all the time." would take all the time." would take all the time." >> I mean, it's there. I mean, it's the one >> I mean, it's there. I mean, it's the one >> I mean, it's there. I mean, it's the one that you've I can feel like you can tell that you've I can feel like you can tell that you've I can feel like you can tell a you can tell a different. I mean, you a you can tell a different. I mean, you a you can tell a different. I mean, you could tell how how much faster you're could tell how how much faster you're could tell how how much faster you're healing from something, especially if healing from something, especially if healing from something, especially if it's an injury that you've had before or it's an injury that you've had before or it's an injury that you've had before or you're familiar with. It's It's you're familiar with. It's It's you're familiar with. It's It's definitely one of those ones. definitely one of those ones. definitely one of those ones. >> I have a buddy who got uh I think I told >> I have a buddy who got uh I think I told >> I have a buddy who got uh I think I told you guys he he had a shoulder injury and you guys he he had a shoulder injury and you guys he he had a shoulder injury and then it was taking forever to heal and then it was taking forever to heal and then it was taking forever to heal and he used it and I saw him like the next he used it and I saw him like the next he used it and I saw him like the next week and he's like, "I don't know if I'm week and he's like, "I don't know if I'm week and he's like, "I don't know if I'm like imagining things." I'm like, "What like imagining things." I'm like, "What like imagining things." I'm like, "What do you mean?" He goes, "The pain's do you mean?" He goes, "The pain's do you mean?" He goes, "The pain's gone." gone." gone." >> I'm like, "No, it works, dude. It >> I'm like, "No, it works, dude. It >> I'm like, "No, it works, dude. It definitely works. definitely works. definitely works. >> Yeah, peptides are interesting. That's >> Yeah, peptides are interesting. That's >> Yeah, peptides are interesting. That's like the And now it's like more like the And now it's like more like the And now it's like more mainstream, right? Peptide science is mainstream, right? Peptide science is mainstream, right? Peptide science is more mainstream. more mainstream. more mainstream. >> I saw a post of our buddy Ben. He had he >> I saw a post of our buddy Ben. He had he >> I saw a post of our buddy Ben. He had he had a picture. He's been since 2016. had a picture. He's been since 2016. had a picture. He's been since 2016. >> He's he's a cutting edge dude. >> He's he's a cutting edge dude. >> He's he's a cutting edge dude. >> He was talking about Ben's Greenfield. >> He was talking about Ben's Greenfield. >> He was talking about Ben's Greenfield. >> Yeah. Greenfield. >> Yeah. Greenfield. >> Yeah. Greenfield. >> You talking about BPC back in 2016? >> You talking about BPC back in 2016? >> You talking about BPC back in 2016? >> 2016, bro. >> 2016, bro. >> 2016, bro. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> He's there's a picture of him and he's >> He's there's a picture of him and he's >> He's there's a picture of him and he's early and he's Yeah. show he's holding early and he's Yeah. show he's holding early and he's Yeah. show he's holding the bottle and vial and and and syringe the bottle and vial and and and syringe the bottle and vial and and and syringe and he's like I've been talking I've and he's like I've been talking I've and he's like I've been talking I've been been talking about this for a been been talking about this for a been been talking about this for a decade decade decade >> but it's mainstream he was you know he >> but it's mainstream he was you know he >> but it's mainstream he was you know he was the first person I called so I I was the first person I called so I I was the first person I called so I I remember right when we were first kind remember right when we were first kind remember right when we were first kind of of of >> was this when you tore your Achilles >> was this when you tore your Achilles >> was this when you tore your Achilles >> I think so I don't remember I think so >> I think so I don't remember I think so >> I think so I don't remember I think so yeah I think so yeah so it was quite it yeah I think so yeah so it was quite it yeah I think so yeah so it was quite it was quite a ways back and I I reached was quite a ways back and I I reached was quite a ways back and I I reached out to him and he was like oh yeah out to him and he was like oh yeah out to him and he was like oh yeah absolutely and I was asking him about absolutely and I was asking him about absolutely and I was asking him about injecting it in the site and what should injecting it in the site and what should injecting it in the site and what should I do and get and all them dosage and all I do and get and all them dosage and all I do and get and all them dosage and all things. So, yeah, he was he was my things. So, yeah, he was he was my things. So, yeah, he was he was my go-to. So, go-to. So, go-to. So, >> it's the um it's now like they can't >> it's the um it's now like they can't >> it's the um it's now like they can't ignore uh the effectiveness of peptides ignore uh the effectiveness of peptides ignore uh the effectiveness of peptides for uh for lots of different reasons. Uh for uh for lots of different reasons. Uh for uh for lots of different reasons. Uh so, like for healing, for brain health, so, like for healing, for brain health, so, like for healing, for brain health, uh gut health, sexual health, there's uh gut health, sexual health, there's uh gut health, sexual health, there's peptides for that. Uh hormonal health. peptides for that. Uh hormonal health. peptides for that. Uh hormonal health. Um there's peptides that help regulate Um there's peptides that help regulate Um there's peptides that help regulate sleep. Pretty pretty sleep. Pretty pretty sleep. Pretty pretty >> Do you think they're being oversold? >> Do you think they're being oversold? >> Do you think they're being oversold? >> No. No. I think uh well, okay, let me >> No. No. I think uh well, okay, let me >> No. No. I think uh well, okay, let me let me back up. Yes and no. Yes, because let me back up. Yes and no. Yes, because let me back up. Yes and no. Yes, because that's what our space does. So, they that's what our space does. So, they that's what our space does. So, they sell them like you're going to take sell them like you're going to take sell them like you're going to take peptides and it's like, peptides and it's like, peptides and it's like, >> yeah, you're going to get all these >> yeah, you're going to get all these >> yeah, you're going to get all these magical results. magical results. magical results. >> Yeah, like you're going to become Mr. >> Yeah, like you're going to become Mr. >> Yeah, like you're going to become Mr. Olympia or something crazy. Olympia or something crazy. Olympia or something crazy. >> Uh but no, because uh as um >> Uh but no, because uh as um >> Uh but no, because uh as um interventions, especially safer interventions, especially safer interventions, especially safer interventions than than traditional interventions than than traditional interventions than than traditional drugs, drugs, drugs, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Like this is a huge there's a huge >> Like this is a huge there's a huge >> Like this is a huge there's a huge future, you know, I feel like we need to future, you know, I feel like we need to future, you know, I feel like we need to add a category to the pie chart, right? add a category to the pie chart, right? add a category to the pie chart, right? For the longest time, we've had these For the longest time, we've had these For the longest time, we've had these like pie charts that would show like, like pie charts that would show like, like pie charts that would show like, you know, diet is 75%, you know, your you know, diet is 75%, you know, your you know, diet is 75%, you know, your workout is, you know, 20 whatever. And workout is, you know, 20 whatever. And workout is, you know, 20 whatever. And so, and supplements would only be like so, and supplements would only be like so, and supplements would only be like 5% or something like that. Like, where 5% or something like that. Like, where 5% or something like that. Like, where does where do you think peptide if you does where do you think peptide if you does where do you think peptide if you were building a pie chart were building a pie chart were building a pie chart >> of nutrition, >> of nutrition, >> of nutrition, exercise, recovery, exercise, recovery, exercise, recovery, >> it goes like this, sleep, uh, and then >> it goes like this, sleep, uh, and then >> it goes like this, sleep, uh, and then >> for medical interventions, it goes >> for medical interventions, it goes >> for medical interventions, it goes hormone replacement therapy first, hormone replacement therapy first, hormone replacement therapy first, peptides right underneath peptides right underneath peptides right underneath So, if your testosterone's off, So, if your testosterone's off, So, if your testosterone's off, >> that's like that's like life changing, >> that's like that's like life changing, >> that's like that's like life changing, >> right? Right. If your hormones are are >> right? Right. If your hormones are are >> right? Right. If your hormones are are off, uh, go hormone therapy. off, uh, go hormone therapy. off, uh, go hormone therapy. >> Peptides are next underneath that um, in >> Peptides are next underneath that um, in >> Peptides are next underneath that um, in terms of what they can do for you. terms of what they can do for you. terms of what they can do for you. >> So, okay. Yeah, but what I'm trying to >> So, okay. Yeah, but what I'm trying to >> So, okay. Yeah, but what I'm trying to close the gap on is in comparison to close the gap on is in comparison to close the gap on is in comparison to supplements cuz supplements are also supplements cuz supplements are also supplements cuz supplements are also >> No, you can't. >> No, you can't. >> No, you can't. >> So, you're way Yeah. >> So, you're way Yeah. >> So, you're way Yeah. >> No, you can't compare. >> No, you can't compare. >> No, you can't compare. >> More effective. >> More effective. >> More effective. >> No way, dude. Yeah, you can't compare. >> No way, dude. Yeah, you can't compare. >> No way, dude. Yeah, you can't compare. You could take uh growth hormone You could take uh growth hormone You could take uh growth hormone releasing peptides and if you're healthy releasing peptides and if you're healthy releasing peptides and if you're healthy uh you know you're a 40-year-old woman uh you know you're a 40-year-old woman uh you know you're a 40-year-old woman and take uh Samarolin or something like and take uh Samarolin or something like and take uh Samarolin or something like that, you'll start producing growth that, you'll start producing growth that, you'll start producing growth hormone like when you're 18 from a hormone like when you're 18 from a hormone like when you're 18 from a peptide naturally. So uh yeah. No, you peptide naturally. So uh yeah. No, you peptide naturally. So uh yeah. No, you you can't compare to supplements. you can't compare to supplements. you can't compare to supplements. >> So if you had to put a number on it, >> So if you had to put a number on it, >> So if you had to put a number on it, supplements are 5% of health and supplements are 5% of health and supplements are 5% of health and fitness, you know, 5% of your your fitness, you know, 5% of your your fitness, you know, 5% of your your results when it comes to health. I hate results when it comes to health. I hate results when it comes to health. I hate to say that because I don't think to say that because I don't think to say that because I don't think they're necessary. I don't think they're necessary. I don't think they're necessary. I don't think peptides are necessary. I also don't peptides are necessary. I also don't peptides are necessary. I also don't think supplements are necessary. In some think supplements are necessary. In some think supplements are necessary. In some cases, they cases, they cases, they >> I know, but >> I know, but >> I know, but >> but in terms of what they'll contribute. >> but in terms of what they'll contribute. >> but in terms of what they'll contribute. >> Yeah, exactly. What they'll contribute. >> Yeah, exactly. What they'll contribute. >> Yeah, exactly. What they'll contribute. That's when I say five because That's when I say five because That's when I say five because supplements have tremendous value. If supplements have tremendous value. If supplements have tremendous value. If someone undereats protein and you someone undereats protein and you someone undereats protein and you supplement with a protein shake, it supplement with a protein shake, it supplement with a protein shake, it could be could be could be >> a huge thing. But generally speaking, >> a huge thing. But generally speaking, >> a huge thing. But generally speaking, when you talk about if someone's diet is when you talk about if someone's diet is when you talk about if someone's diet is dialed and they exercise, that is you're dialed and they exercise, that is you're dialed and they exercise, that is you're 80% of the way 90% of the way to your 80% of the way 90% of the way to your 80% of the way 90% of the way to your ultimate physique or ultimate goal. ultimate physique or ultimate goal. ultimate physique or ultimate goal. >> So from a percentage standpoint, if you >> So from a percentage standpoint, if you >> So from a percentage standpoint, if you were comparing it to supplements, and I were comparing it to supplements, and I were comparing it to supplements, and I know you said it doesn't even compare, know you said it doesn't even compare, know you said it doesn't even compare, but yeah, but it also doesn't even But but yeah, but it also doesn't even But but yeah, but it also doesn't even But you wouldn't compare, you wouldn't say you wouldn't compare, you wouldn't say you wouldn't compare, you wouldn't say it's more important than diet. No, it's more important than diet. No, it's more important than diet. No, >> you wouldn't say it's more important >> you wouldn't say it's more important >> you wouldn't say it's more important than exercise. No. Okay. So where where than exercise. No. Okay. So where where than exercise. No. Okay. So where where does it where does it fall in in the does it where does it fall in in the does it where does it fall in in the category or in category or in category or in >> it's definitely more important or more >> it's definitely more important or more >> it's definitely more important or more impactful than supplements less impactful than supplements less impactful than supplements less impactful than exercise and diet and impactful than exercise and diet and impactful than exercise and diet and sleep. sleep. sleep. >> So somewhere in between there. >> So somewhere in between there. >> So somewhere in between there. >> Yeah. Somewhere in between. >> Yeah. Somewhere in between. >> Yeah. Somewhere in between. >> So it would be >> So it would be >> So it would be >> well even I guess if I was to compare >> well even I guess if I was to compare >> well even I guess if I was to compare just from cognitive benefits like just from cognitive benefits like just from cognitive benefits like neutropic supplements versus uh neutropic supplements versus uh neutropic supplements versus uh peptides. It's like I mean exponentially peptides. It's like I mean exponentially peptides. It's like I mean exponentially more benefit with Yeah. with the more benefit with Yeah. with the more benefit with Yeah. with the peptides I've experimented with. I I did peptides I've experimented with. I I did peptides I've experimented with. I I did tell you guys. So, I went I told you tell you guys. So, I went I told you tell you guys. So, I went I told you guys, right? I went to I recently went guys, right? I went to I recently went guys, right? I went to I recently went to the doctor because I had some heart to the doctor because I had some heart to the doctor because I had some heart palpitations for a few days and so I did palpitations for a few days and so I did palpitations for a few days and so I did a regular checkup thing and the doctor a regular checkup thing and the doctor a regular checkup thing and the doctor there is asking me like, "Oh, you know, there is asking me like, "Oh, you know, there is asking me like, "Oh, you know, what do you take? What do you do?" what do you take? What do you do?" what do you take? What do you do?" Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. >> You're like, "Hold on, let me get this >> You're like, "Hold on, let me get this >> You're like, "Hold on, let me get this list out." list out." list out." >> He's like, you're like like today or or >> He's like, you're like like today or or >> He's like, you're like like today or or like like like >> Yeah. Like like since I got here. >> Yeah. Like like since I got here. >> Yeah. Like like since I got here. >> You want all my supplements? You have >> You want all my supplements? You have >> You want all my supplements? You have you have a half hour? you have a half hour? you have a half hour? >> No. No. So, I told her I told her I was >> No. No. So, I told her I told her I was >> No. No. So, I told her I told her I was on hormone, you know, uh hormone hormone on hormone, you know, uh hormone hormone on hormone, you know, uh hormone hormone therapy, right? Yeah. therapy, right? Yeah. therapy, right? Yeah. >> And you know what I'm taking and >> And you know what I'm taking and >> And you know what I'm taking and still still cuz I was still like, "Okay, still still cuz I was still like, "Okay, still still cuz I was still like, "Okay, come on. You're a young doctor. I'm sure come on. You're a young doctor. I'm sure come on. You're a young doctor. I'm sure you realize like this is like hormone you realize like this is like hormone you realize like this is like hormone therapy is fine. It's just it's with the therapy is fine. It's just it's with the therapy is fine. It's just it's with the doctor. I'm not going to black market doctor. I'm not going to black market doctor. I'm not going to black market and doing all this stuff." and doing all this stuff." and doing all this stuff." >> Right. Right. Yeah. >> Right. Right. Yeah. >> Right. Right. Yeah. >> And her face was like, "What? Why do you >> And her face was like, "What? Why do you >> And her face was like, "What? Why do you take that? Why do you do that?" I'm take that? Why do you do that?" I'm take that? Why do you do that?" I'm like, "Oh, it's with a doctor. They like, "Oh, it's with a doctor. They like, "Oh, it's with a doctor. They >> like I'm almost 50 years old. >> like I'm almost 50 years old. >> like I'm almost 50 years old. >> They monitor my hormones and I do I do >> They monitor my hormones and I do I do >> They monitor my hormones and I do I do labs every 3 months, you know, you know, labs every 3 months, you know, you know, labs every 3 months, you know, you know, this and that." Some young guy. this and that." Some young guy. this and that." Some young guy. >> She's like, "But if you're not like if >> She's like, "But if you're not like if >> She's like, "But if you're not like if you're not really deficient, why would you're not really deficient, why would you're not really deficient, why would anybody take?" And she's asking me all anybody take?" And she's asking me all anybody take?" And she's asking me all these questions like, "That's" She's these questions like, "That's" She's these questions like, "That's" She's like, "Let's let's just test you. Let's like, "Let's let's just test you. Let's like, "Let's let's just test you. Let's just make sure like she was concerned. just make sure like she was concerned. just make sure like she was concerned. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> With me. I'm like, listen, I go through >> With me. I'm like, listen, I go through >> With me. I'm like, listen, I go through a doctor. In fact, their expertise is a doctor. In fact, their expertise is a doctor. In fact, their expertise is hormones. I know your expertise is not. hormones. I know your expertise is not. hormones. I know your expertise is not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I didn't say that to her. >> I didn't say that to her. >> I didn't say that to her. >> But I'm like, you know, >> But I'm like, you know, >> But I'm like, you know, >> but it's interesting still. It's still >> but it's interesting still. It's still >> but it's interesting still. It's still interesting. interesting. interesting. >> Yeah. There's still that bit of stigma. >> Yeah. There's still that bit of stigma. >> Yeah. There's still that bit of stigma. >> I didn't expect it too cuz she was a >> I didn't expect it too cuz she was a >> I didn't expect it too cuz she was a young doctor. young doctor. young doctor. >> Well, and yeah. And Courtney experienced >> Well, and yeah. And Courtney experienced >> Well, and yeah. And Courtney experienced some of that even from some of her some of that even from some of her some of that even from some of her doctor friends. she's, you know, and was doctor friends. she's, you know, and was doctor friends. she's, you know, and was a nurse uh forever and like is, you a nurse uh forever and like is, you a nurse uh forever and like is, you know, on some hormones and and thyroid know, on some hormones and and thyroid know, on some hormones and and thyroid and and they were like very concerned, and and they were like very concerned, and and they were like very concerned, you know, cuz it's like they don't they you know, cuz it's like they don't they you know, cuz it's like they don't they don't study a lot of that. They don't don't study a lot of that. They don't don't study a lot of that. They don't look into the research, you know, it's look into the research, you know, it's look into the research, you know, it's just not part of their curriculum. No, just not part of their curriculum. No, just not part of their curriculum. No, >> that's so funny to me with like you >> that's so funny to me with like you >> that's so funny to me with like you because I get that because I get that because I get that regular MDs may not have all the the regular MDs may not have all the the regular MDs may not have all the the schooling and up to date on the newest schooling and up to date on the newest schooling and up to date on the newest research but you would think someone I research but you would think someone I research but you would think someone I mean your age I would like if you were mean your age I would like if you were mean your age I would like if you were 30 and you were doing that I think if 30 and you were doing that I think if 30 and you were doing that I think if the doctor would be like what are you the doctor would be like what are you the doctor would be like what are you doing you're young man still doing you're young man still doing you're young man still >> well there's a different so >> well there's a different so >> well there's a different so >> you're almost 50 years old dog >> you're almost 50 years old dog >> you're almost 50 years old dog >> yeah I know the view maybe she thought I >> yeah I know the view maybe she thought I >> yeah I know the view maybe she thought I was inject was inject was inject Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> You know what it you know what it is? >> You know what it you know what it is? >> You know what it you know what it is? There's there's an there's a there's a There's there's an there's a there's a There's there's an there's a there's a view with hormone therapy in traditional view with hormone therapy in traditional view with hormone therapy in traditional medicine that's it's getting outdated. medicine that's it's getting outdated. medicine that's it's getting outdated. It's it's starting to change. But the It's it's starting to change. But the It's it's starting to change. But the view is unless you're so unless you're view is unless you're so unless you're view is unless you're so unless you're way out of range. way out of range. way out of range. >> Yeah. Unless you're in dangerous zone >> Yeah. Unless you're in dangerous zone >> Yeah. Unless you're in dangerous zone like 100 something like 100 something like 100 something >> like if you like if you come in as a man >> like if you like if you come in as a man >> like if you like if you come in as a man and your testosterone uh your total and your testosterone uh your total and your testosterone uh your total testosterone is below 250 because that's testosterone is below 250 because that's testosterone is below 250 because that's the bottom of it. the bottom of it. the bottom of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, then maybe we'll consider >> Okay. Well, then maybe we'll consider >> Okay. Well, then maybe we'll consider testosterone. But if you come in at 350, testosterone. But if you come in at 350, testosterone. But if you come in at 350, >> Yeah. you got to be like rock >> Yeah. you got to be like rock >> Yeah. you got to be like rock >> with all of the all of the symptoms of >> with all of the all of the symptoms of >> with all of the all of the symptoms of low testosterone. low testosterone. low testosterone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you've got the low drive, the low >> So, you've got the low drive, the low >> So, you've got the low drive, the low libido, libido, libido, uh you know, you're just not feeling uh you know, you're just not feeling uh you know, you're just not feeling good. You're losing muscle mass, gaining good. You're losing muscle mass, gaining good. You're losing muscle mass, gaining body fat, but you're in range. They're body fat, but you're in range. They're body fat, but you're in range. They're going to be like, "No, no, you're fine." going to be like, "No, no, you're fine." going to be like, "No, no, you're fine." Same thing with thyroid. Same thing with Same thing with thyroid. Same thing with Same thing with thyroid. Same thing with you see with women with testosterone. you see with women with testosterone. you see with women with testosterone. They'll come in and, man, you know, I They'll come in and, man, you know, I They'll come in and, man, you know, I got low libido. I got low low drive. I got low libido. I got low low drive. I got low libido. I got low low drive. I just don't feel good. They'll look at just don't feel good. They'll look at just don't feel good. They'll look at their testosterone and say, "Well, their testosterone and say, "Well, their testosterone and say, "Well, you're within range, even though it's at you're within range, even though it's at you're within range, even though it's at the bottom of the range." And then the bottom of the range." And then the bottom of the range." And then they're more likely to be like, "You they're more likely to be like, "You they're more likely to be like, "You know what? know what? know what? >> We got an for you." >> We got an for you." >> We got an for you." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We got an enzytic for you. >> We got an enzytic for you. >> We got an enzytic for you. >> That's the go-to. >> That's the go-to. >> That's the go-to. >> I mean, that's what led me to a be long >> I mean, that's what led me to a be long >> I mean, that's what led me to a be long before we were ever working with any before we were ever working with any before we were ever working with any companies. What led me to going through companies. What led me to going through companies. What led me to going through a hormone specialist was I first tried a hormone specialist was I first tried a hormone specialist was I first tried to go through my general practitioner to go through my general practitioner to go through my general practitioner and I was like 275. So, I I tested a few and I was like 275. So, I I tested a few and I was like 275. So, I I tested a few times. 275 to 325 was like the highest I times. 275 to 325 was like the highest I times. 275 to 325 was like the highest I test. And I had all the s all the signs test. And I had all the s all the signs test. And I had all the s all the signs of like feeling terrible and uh your of like feeling terrible and uh your of like feeling terrible and uh your general pe your general practitioner general pe your general practitioner general pe your general practitioner wouldn't wouldn't prescribe me wouldn't wouldn't prescribe me wouldn't wouldn't prescribe me testosterone. testosterone. testosterone. >> Do you know how many do so >> Do you know how many do so >> Do you know how many do so >> and then then I go to a hormone >> and then then I go to a hormone >> and then then I go to a hormone specialist specialist specialist >> and they're like oh yeah >> and they're like oh yeah >> and they're like oh yeah >> and they're like oh yeah right away like >> and they're like oh yeah right away like >> and they're like oh yeah right away like in fact and they started me on a very in fact and they started me on a very in fact and they started me on a very mild dose and then monitor and then mild dose and then monitor and then mild dose and then monitor and then inched me up inch and they would inch me inched me up inch and they would inch me inched me up inch and they would inch me up like 10 milligrams at a time. It was up like 10 milligrams at a time. It was up like 10 milligrams at a time. It was like very slow. like very slow. like very slow. >> Do you know how many women I'll be >> Do you know how many women I'll be >> Do you know how many women I'll be careful when I how I say this right. Do careful when I how I say this right. Do careful when I how I say this right. Do you know how many middle-aged women who you know how many middle-aged women who you know how many middle-aged women who start to suffer from anxiety? Because start to suffer from anxiety? Because start to suffer from anxiety? Because anxiety spikes in middle age for women, anxiety spikes in middle age for women, anxiety spikes in middle age for women, parameopause, menopause spike, sleep parameopause, menopause spike, sleep parameopause, menopause spike, sleep issues, like you know, all the all the issues, like you know, all the all the issues, like you know, all the all the the classic stuff, right? the classic stuff, right? the classic stuff, right? >> Do you know how many of them uh do >> Do you know how many of them uh do >> Do you know how many of them uh do hormone therapy or will we use hormone therapy or will we use hormone therapy or will we use progesterone progesterone progesterone >> and they're like I don't have anxiety >> and they're like I don't have anxiety >> and they're like I don't have anxiety anymore. anymore. anymore. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you know what the traditional >> And you know what the traditional >> And you know what the traditional methods were? If you're middle-aged methods were? If you're middle-aged methods were? If you're middle-aged woman, sleep issues, I'm having anxiety, woman, sleep issues, I'm having anxiety, woman, sleep issues, I'm having anxiety, here's a benzo or here's an SSRI, here's a benzo or here's an SSRI, here's a benzo or here's an SSRI, that'll fix you. that'll fix you. that'll fix you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When you can go on bio identical, >> When you can go on bio identical, >> When you can go on bio identical, meaning the exact same hormones your meaning the exact same hormones your meaning the exact same hormones your body's making. So, not the birth control body's making. So, not the birth control body's making. So, not the birth control crap where it's like different, but crap where it's like different, but crap where it's like different, but actual bioidentical hormones. You could actual bioidentical hormones. You could actual bioidentical hormones. You could take a woman, raise her testosterone, take a woman, raise her testosterone, take a woman, raise her testosterone, have her take some progesterone before have her take some progesterone before have her take some progesterone before bedyroid, uh maybe a little thyroid if bedyroid, uh maybe a little thyroid if bedyroid, uh maybe a little thyroid if her thyroid isn't optimal, and then her thyroid isn't optimal, and then her thyroid isn't optimal, and then boom, boom, boom, >> I feel great. Yeah. >> I feel great. Yeah. >> I feel great. Yeah. >> And all I'm all I'm taking are hormones >> And all I'm all I'm taking are hormones >> And all I'm all I'm taking are hormones I already make and they're within I already make and they're within I already make and they're within they're still within range. You you're they're still within range. You you're they're still within range. You you're they're taking you out of range they're taking you out of range they're taking you out of range >> also. Now you're in this youthful >> also. Now you're in this youthful >> also. Now you're in this youthful profile again. Yeah. profile again. Yeah. profile again. Yeah. >> And your quality of life goes up, >> And your quality of life goes up, >> And your quality of life goes up, >> right? And then which also promotes that >> right? And then which also promotes that >> right? And then which also promotes that person has motivation to go work out. person has motivation to go work out. person has motivation to go work out. Their libido and sex drive is now up and Their libido and sex drive is now up and Their libido and sex drive is now up and so they're having sex with their so they're having sex with their so they're having sex with their partnerates. partnerates. partnerates. >> And the SSR does the opposite. >> And the SSR does the opposite. >> And the SSR does the opposite. >> Whereas an SSRI you have sex sex. Okay, >> Whereas an SSRI you have sex sex. Okay, >> Whereas an SSRI you have sex sex. Okay, my anxiety is better, but I can't get my anxiety is better, but I can't get my anxiety is better, but I can't get orgasm or I don't have a libido or I'm orgasm or I don't have a libido or I'm orgasm or I don't have a libido or I'm gaining weight as a result gaining weight as a result gaining weight as a result >> of the rest. >> of the rest. >> of the rest. >> And you don't get any highs or lows >> And you don't get any highs or lows >> And you don't get any highs or lows anymore. You're just kind of anymore. You're just kind of anymore. You're just kind of >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> there. >> there. >> there. >> Yeah. So, I don't know. >> Yeah. So, I don't know. >> Yeah. So, I don't know. >> You know, talking more about the peptide >> You know, talking more about the peptide >> You know, talking more about the peptide market, I'm curious because especially market, I'm curious because especially market, I'm curious because especially since you you you categorize it as so since you you you categorize it as so since you you you categorize it as so much more effective than supplements, if much more effective than supplements, if much more effective than supplements, if it's had a a negative impact on the it's had a a negative impact on the it's had a a negative impact on the supplement industry. supplement industry. supplement industry. >> I don't think so. A big part of the >> I don't think so. A big part of the >> I don't think so. A big part of the supplement industry is there's a big gap supplement industry is there's a big gap supplement industry is there's a big gap >> fat loss and muscle building and stuff >> fat loss and muscle building and stuff >> fat loss and muscle building and stuff like that. And if there's products out like that. And if there's products out like that. And if there's products out there that there that there that >> you still need you still buy supplements >> you still need you still buy supplements >> you still need you still buy supplements uh over the counter. Uh if you want uh over the counter. Uh if you want uh over the counter. Uh if you want peptides, you still if you want to do it peptides, you still if you want to do it peptides, you still if you want to do it the the legit route, you still go the the legit route, you still go the the legit route, you still go through doctors. Um so there's still through doctors. Um so there's still through doctors. Um so there's still over the counter. There's still this over the counter. There's still this over the counter. There's still this part, Adam, which is always a block for part, Adam, which is always a block for part, Adam, which is always a block for some people. some people. some people. >> There are oral peptides. So there are >> There are oral peptides. So there are >> There are oral peptides. So there are peptides you could take in capsules. A peptides you could take in capsules. A peptides you could take in capsules. A lot of them are injectable. lot of them are injectable. lot of them are injectable. >> A lot of them are injectable >> A lot of them are injectable >> A lot of them are injectable >> because uh they're not a bit of a >> because uh they're not a bit of a >> because uh they're not a bit of a barrier. barrier. barrier. >> They're not bioavailable. And now you >> They're not bioavailable. And now you >> They're not bioavailable. And now you use a tiny little insulin needle. It's use a tiny little insulin needle. It's use a tiny little insulin needle. It's like a It's like a little hair. But a like a It's like a little hair. But a like a It's like a little hair. But a lot of people like the like the GLPs. lot of people like the like the GLPs. lot of people like the like the GLPs. Oh, Oh, Oh, >> the GLPs are injectable. >> the GLPs are injectable. >> the GLPs are injectable. >> Well, just getting my dad to do Yeah, >> Well, just getting my dad to do Yeah, >> Well, just getting my dad to do Yeah, that was a deterrent, you know. Come on. that was a deterrent, you know. Come on. that was a deterrent, you know. Come on. Be a man. Be a man. Be a man. >> Which one was he trying? Was he good? >> Which one was he trying? Was he good? >> Which one was he trying? Was he good? >> BBC. I was trying to get cuz he had knee >> BBC. I was trying to get cuz he had knee >> BBC. I was trying to get cuz he had knee surgery and knee replacement surgery. surgery and knee replacement surgery. surgery and knee replacement surgery. >> Oh yeah. Did he take it? >> Oh yeah. Did he take it? >> Oh yeah. Did he take it? >> He started to take it. Yeah. Right. I >> He started to take it. Yeah. Right. I >> He started to take it. Yeah. Right. I really had to convince him that it's, really had to convince him that it's, really had to convince him that it's, >> you know, you know, >> you know, you know, >> you know, you know, >> I gave my dad BPC, but I go there and >> I gave my dad BPC, but I go there and >> I gave my dad BPC, but I go there and give him give him give him >> I wouldn't be surprised if that's why >> I wouldn't be surprised if that's why >> I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the people that choose anti-depressants the people that choose anti-depressants the people that choose anti-depressants are probably for that same reason, too. are probably for that same reason, too. are probably for that same reason, too. I'm sure that some of the people that I'm sure that some of the people that I'm sure that some of the people that choose antid-depressants versus taking choose antid-depressants versus taking choose antid-depressants versus taking all those hormones are probably similar, all those hormones are probably similar, all those hormones are probably similar, too. too. too. >> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> Maybe. >> Yeah. they don't they want >> Yeah. they don't they want >> Yeah. they don't they want >> well with with hormone replacement >> well with with hormone replacement >> well with with hormone replacement therapy just so that people know if therapy just so that people know if therapy just so that people know if we're just talking hormones so uh in we're just talking hormones so uh in we're just talking hormones so uh in mormones.com that the medical mormones.com that the medical mormones.com that the medical professionals have access to this you professionals have access to this you professionals have access to this you can use injectable testosterone they can use injectable testosterone they can use injectable testosterone they also have yes in fact if you're a woman also have yes in fact if you're a woman also have yes in fact if you're a woman and you do full hormone replacement and you do full hormone replacement and you do full hormone replacement therapy progesterone testosterone and therapy progesterone testosterone and therapy progesterone testosterone and thyroid none of it is injectable thyroid none of it is injectable thyroid none of it is injectable >> the progesterone is pills >> the progesterone is pills >> the progesterone is pills >> the testosterone is a cream you apply it >> the testosterone is a cream you apply it >> the testosterone is a cream you apply it vaginally And thyroid is a pill. vaginally And thyroid is a pill. vaginally And thyroid is a pill. >> There are no injectives. It's the >> There are no injectives. It's the >> There are no injectives. It's the peptides that are often peptides that are often peptides that are often >> injectable. >> injectable. >> injectable. >> Speaking of all this and and things that >> Speaking of all this and and things that >> Speaking of all this and and things that affect health and stuff, I want to ask affect health and stuff, I want to ask affect health and stuff, I want to ask you about cuz you're been tracking sleep you about cuz you're been tracking sleep you about cuz you're been tracking sleep so much. so much. so much. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh how big of an impact now that you're >> Uh how big of an impact now that you're >> Uh how big of an impact now that you're tracking and really paying attention to tracking and really paying attention to tracking and really paying attention to all this. all this. all this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How big of an impact does eight sleep >> How big of an impact does eight sleep >> How big of an impact does eight sleep have on things like your sleep quality, have on things like your sleep quality, have on things like your sleep quality, sleep score, all that stuff? sleep score, all that stuff? sleep score, all that stuff? >> Everything. It's one of the it's one of >> Everything. It's one of the it's one of >> Everything. It's one of the it's one of the most impactful things that I've ever the most impactful things that I've ever the most impactful things that I've ever done um for sleep. Now, I've had that done um for sleep. Now, I've had that done um for sleep. Now, I've had that locked in for quite some time now, like locked in for quite some time now, like locked in for quite some time now, like that because we've had eight sleep for that because we've had eight sleep for that because we've had eight sleep for >> But you've you've slept at other places >> But you've you've slept at other places >> But you've you've slept at other places without it. without it. without it. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, one of the >> Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, one of the >> Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, one of the >> Because you run hot, right? Yeah, one of >> Because you run hot, right? Yeah, one of >> Because you run hot, right? Yeah, one of the one of the worst parts is I'm I'm so the one of the worst parts is I'm I'm so the one of the worst parts is I'm I'm so aware of that and I'm sure I get in my aware of that and I'm sure I get in my aware of that and I'm sure I get in my own head when I know I travel now and I own head when I know I travel now and I own head when I know I travel now and I don't have that don't have that don't have that >> like I know that I'm going to have a >> like I know that I'm going to have a >> like I know that I'm going to have a like I the first thing I do I mean like I the first thing I do I mean like I the first thing I do I mean you've been with me before when first you've been with me before when first you've been with me before when first thing I do when I get to hotel room is thing I do when I get to hotel room is thing I do when I get to hotel room is drop it as low as I can cuz I've got to drop it as low as I can cuz I've got to drop it as low as I can cuz I've got to get that bed cold enough get that bed cold enough get that bed cold enough >> for me to get a good night's sleep and >> for me to get a good night's sleep and >> for me to get a good night's sleep and and even then by the time I get in those and even then by the time I get in those and even then by the time I get in those sheets I heat it up it ain't the same as sheets I heat it up it ain't the same as sheets I heat it up it ain't the same as like when I have my aid sleep the eight like when I have my aid sleep the eight like when I have my aid sleep the eight sleep controls that it's so crazy to me sleep controls that it's so crazy to me sleep controls that it's so crazy to me too like how wildly good the AI is on too like how wildly good the AI is on too like how wildly good the AI is on it. Like it once it has I've I've been it. Like it once it has I've I've been it. Like it once it has I've I've been once it figures out like we we moved once it figures out like we we moved once it figures out like we we moved this last year, right? So I've now it's this last year, right? So I've now it's this last year, right? So I've now it's now been transferred from you know bed now been transferred from you know bed now been transferred from you know bed to bed like three times now. Um and I to bed like three times now. Um and I to bed like three times now. Um and I actually I I upgraded it on one of the actually I I upgraded it on one of the actually I I upgraded it on one of the one of the times two. So I've now one of the times two. So I've now one of the times two. So I've now switched it out was three times now I switched it out was three times now I switched it out was three times now I think that I've switched it out. And so think that I've switched it out. And so think that I've switched it out. And so each time I switch it out or I've moved each time I switch it out or I've moved each time I switch it out or I've moved and I had to reset it and it and and I had to reset it and it and and I had to reset it and it and reaclimate the temperatures. And so you reaclimate the temperatures. And so you reaclimate the temperatures. And so you go through this kind of phase of like a go through this kind of phase of like a go through this kind of phase of like a week of like, oh, I want a little bit week of like, oh, I want a little bit week of like, oh, I want a little bit colder, a little bit warm, and like colder, a little bit warm, and like colder, a little bit warm, and like messing with the the temperatures. And messing with the the temperatures. And messing with the the temperatures. And then after it's been about a couple then after it's been about a couple then after it's been about a couple weeks after that, weeks after that, weeks after that, >> it just knows. And like I doesn't matter >> it just knows. And like I doesn't matter >> it just knows. And like I doesn't matter if it's winter, summer if it's winter, summer if it's winter, summer >> because it'll cool or it'll it'll it'll >> because it'll cool or it'll it'll it'll >> because it'll cool or it'll it'll it'll adjust on the adjust on the adjust on the >> to and it doesn't matter the season. So >> to and it doesn't matter the season. So >> to and it doesn't matter the season. So we could be in the thick of summer, we could be in the thick of summer, we could be in the thick of summer, winter. Once it's calibrated, it know winter. Once it's calibrated, it know winter. Once it's calibrated, it know and it has all the metrics like an aura and it has all the metrics like an aura and it has all the metrics like an aura ring. So it's tracking all your ring. So it's tracking all your ring. So it's tracking all your restfulness. restfulness. restfulness. It it tracks your It it tracks your It it tracks your >> Does it have to warm you up in the to >> Does it have to warm you up in the to >> Does it have to warm you up in the to wake you up or? wake you up or? wake you up or? >> No. No. I've never you I've only I mean >> No. No. I've never you I've only I mean >> No. No. I've never you I've only I mean I've used messing around with that, but I've used messing around with that, but I've used messing around with that, but the way mine is set like when I look at the way mine is set like when I look at the way mine is set like when I look at what it's calibrated to me again, I kind what it's calibrated to me again, I kind what it's calibrated to me again, I kind of set the original parameters and then of set the original parameters and then of set the original parameters and then it actually ends up adjusting. So when I it actually ends up adjusting. So when I it actually ends up adjusting. So when I go back and I look after a couple months go back and I look after a couple months go back and I look after a couple months and I it's different than what I and I it's different than what I and I it's different than what I actually originally said. It's figured actually originally said. It's figured actually originally said. It's figured out what is optimal. out what is optimal. out what is optimal. >> What makes you that gives you the best. >> What makes you that gives you the best. >> What makes you that gives you the best. >> Yeah. And it's a trip because it just >> Yeah. And it's a trip because it just >> Yeah. And it's a trip because it just and I can feel how good it feels. and I can feel how good it feels. and I can feel how good it feels. >> What's our discount code on that, Doug? >> What's our discount code on that, Doug? >> What's our discount code on that, Doug? We have a big I think that's one of the We have a big I think that's one of the We have a big I think that's one of the ones where we offer a huge discount ones where we offer a huge discount ones where we offer a huge discount >> uh to our partners, you know. >> uh to our partners, you know. >> uh to our partners, you know. >> That's a good question. >> That's a good question. >> That's a good question. >> $350 off. >> $350 off. >> $350 off. >> Is that really substantial? >> Is that really substantial? >> Is that really substantial? >> Yeah. The Pod Five. So our link uh >> Yeah. The Pod Five. So our link uh >> Yeah. The Pod Five. So our link uh eightsleep.com/mindpump eightsleep.com/mindpump eightsleep.com/mindpump and then the and then the and then the >> the new ones are so sick. $350 off. >> the new ones are so sick. $350 off. >> the new ones are so sick. $350 off. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's a big discount. >> that's a big discount. >> that's a big discount. >> Yeah. And I was just going to comment, >> Yeah. And I was just going to comment, >> Yeah. And I was just going to comment, too. My house right now is around 75°. too. My house right now is around 75°. too. My house right now is around 75°. >> Crazy, right? >> Crazy, right? >> Crazy, right? >> And I sleep with this and I don't have >> And I sleep with this and I don't have >> And I sleep with this and I don't have to turn down the, you know, turn on the to turn down the, you know, turn on the to turn down the, you know, turn on the AC. AC. AC. >> So, it saves you money, too. >> So, it saves you money, too. >> So, it saves you money, too. >> Saves me a bunch. >> Saves me a bunch. >> Saves me a bunch. >> I I I Okay, if eightle listens to this >> I I I Okay, if eightle listens to this >> I I I Okay, if eightle listens to this ad, they somebody on your team needs to ad, they somebody on your team needs to ad, they somebody on your team needs to do a cost comparison. do a cost comparison. do a cost comparison. >> Yeah. Cuz then you you you justify the >> Yeah. Cuz then you you you justify the >> Yeah. Cuz then you you you justify the cost. cost. cost. >> Exactly. Like the selling point to me >> Exactly. Like the selling point to me >> Exactly. Like the selling point to me would be of course great sleep. would be of course great sleep. would be of course great sleep. Everybody know anybody who listens to Everybody know anybody who listens to Everybody know anybody who listens to this podcast knows the importance of this podcast knows the importance of this podcast knows the importance of sleep and so that's but it can be an sleep and so that's but it can be an sleep and so that's but it can be an investment for some people like oh okay investment for some people like oh okay investment for some people like oh okay they're not cheap but if you actually they're not cheap but if you actually they're not cheap but if you actually pay attention to what you keep your AC pay attention to what you keep your AC pay attention to what you keep your AC at I have to keep my AC before eight I at I have to keep my AC before eight I at I have to keep my AC before eight I it used to be 65 at the highest 68. It it used to be 65 at the highest 68. It it used to be 65 at the highest 68. It had to be in that range. It was always had to be in that range. It was always had to be in that range. It was always like a like I wanted 65. Katrina was like a like I wanted 65. Katrina was like a like I wanted 65. Katrina was like I can't go lower than 68. So that like I can't go lower than 68. So that like I can't go lower than 68. So that was like the big thing back in the days. was like the big thing back in the days. was like the big thing back in the days. I can let my house get 72 73 degrees and I can let my house get 72 73 degrees and I can let my house get 72 73 degrees and sleep like with my comforter and sheet sleep like with my comforter and sheet sleep like with my comforter and sheet and quilt over me and quilt over me and quilt over me >> because it keeps the keeps me that cool >> because it keeps the keeps me that cool >> because it keeps the keeps me that cool underneath it. underneath it. underneath it. >> Yeah. I can imagine people that live in >> Yeah. I can imagine people that live in >> Yeah. I can imagine people that live in states especially during the summer states especially during the summer states especially during the summer where it's real hot or humid. where it's real hot or humid. where it's real hot or humid. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> And the AC you got to just blast it all >> And the AC you got to just blast it all >> And the AC you got to just blast it all the time. the time. the time. >> Be a lifesaver. >> Be a lifesaver. >> Be a lifesaver. >> Yeah. That could probably save you a ton >> Yeah. That could probably save you a ton >> Yeah. That could probably save you a ton of money. of money. of money. >> Yeah. That's why I'm like to me if >> Yeah. That's why I'm like to me if >> Yeah. That's why I'm like to me if somebody on their team needs to do that somebody on their team needs to do that somebody on their team needs to do that because I think over the course of a because I think over the course of a because I think over the course of a year if you can keep your house at 5° year if you can keep your house at 5° year if you can keep your house at 5° warmer that has to that has to add up warmer that has to that has to add up warmer that has to that has to add up over the course of a year and it'd be over the course of a year and it'd be over the course of a year and it'd be really and knowing what pian cost I know really and knowing what pian cost I know really and knowing what pian cost I know it ain't cheap so I'm sure that that it ain't cheap so I'm sure that that it ain't cheap so I'm sure that that would negate the the price of the actual would negate the the price of the actual would negate the the price of the actual >> So to change the subject did you guys >> So to change the subject did you guys >> So to change the subject did you guys see this is actually really cool did you see this is actually really cool did you see this is actually really cool did you guys see what California guys see what California guys see what California is now allowing knowing. So, you know is now allowing knowing. So, you know is now allowing knowing. So, you know how we have like lots of apps that allow how we have like lots of apps that allow how we have like lots of apps that allow you to like share rides and share things you to like share rides and share things you to like share rides and share things or whatever. or whatever. or whatever. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, there's these are apps that allow >> So, there's these are apps that allow >> So, there's these are apps that allow people to uh sell food out of their people to uh sell food out of their people to uh sell food out of their kitchens. kitchens. kitchens. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> And they legalized them. >> And they legalized them. >> And they legalized them. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah. So, uh it's called a >> Yeah. So, uh it's called a >> Yeah. So, uh it's called a microenterprise home kitchen operation microenterprise home kitchen operation microenterprise home kitchen operation permit. permit. permit. >> So, you can LA County is is accepting >> So, you can LA County is is accepting >> So, you can LA County is is accepting these. you can sell 30 meals maximum per these. you can sell 30 meals maximum per these. you can sell 30 meals maximum per day, 90 meals maximum per week, and your day, 90 meals maximum per week, and your day, 90 meals maximum per week, and your gross annual sales cap uh is uh uh 100K. gross annual sales cap uh is uh uh 100K. gross annual sales cap uh is uh uh 100K. And so you get a you get an inspection And so you get a you get an inspection And so you get a you get an inspection or whatever, not a big deal. You can't or whatever, not a big deal. You can't or whatever, not a big deal. You can't sell alcohol. sell alcohol. sell alcohol. >> Um you could deliver it, but it must be >> Um you could deliver it, but it must be >> Um you could deliver it, but it must be direct to consumer. So you can't do like direct to consumer. So you can't do like direct to consumer. So you can't do like Door Dash and stuff, but dude, somebody Door Dash and stuff, but dude, somebody Door Dash and stuff, but dude, somebody who like is like really wants to cook or who like is like really wants to cook or who like is like really wants to cook or make meals, make meals, make meals, >> you can start your own business out of >> you can start your own business out of >> you can start your own business out of your kitchen. your kitchen. your kitchen. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And they'll let you do it. So there's a >> And they'll let you do it. So there's a >> And they'll let you do it. So there's a there's an app. Maybe Doug knows about there's an app. Maybe Doug knows about there's an app. Maybe Doug knows about this. And I know San Francisco does this. And I know San Francisco does this. And I know San Francisco does this. Um this. Um this. Um >> or you could dine at somebody's place. >> or you could dine at somebody's place. >> or you could dine at somebody's place. >> Yes, you could dine at somebody's place. >> Yes, you could dine at somebody's place. >> Yes, you could dine at somebody's place. >> So like like going to a restaurant like >> So like like going to a restaurant like >> So like like going to a restaurant like you have somebody who loves to cook you have somebody who loves to cook you have somebody who loves to cook >> and so think about like you can go to >> and so think about like you can go to >> and so think about like you can go to people's houses and they prepare a meal people's houses and they prepare a meal people's houses and they prepare a meal a dinner for you and you just like a dinner for you and you just like a dinner for you and you just like you're paying for at a restaurant. you're paying for at a restaurant. you're paying for at a restaurant. >> Grandma make you some awesome meal. >> Grandma make you some awesome meal. >> Grandma make you some awesome meal. >> I've I've always wanted to try it out. I >> I've I've always wanted to try it out. I >> I've I've always wanted to try it out. I always thought it would be kind of cool always thought it would be kind of cool always thought it would be kind of cool to do something like that. But what to do something like that. But what to do something like that. But what comes to mind when you bring this up comes to mind when you bring this up comes to mind when you bring this up right away is kind of what I used to do. right away is kind of what I used to do. right away is kind of what I used to do. I this was a hack for me as a trainer. I this was a hack for me as a trainer. I this was a hack for me as a trainer. Uh this was back when I was doing Uh this was back when I was doing Uh this was back when I was doing private and I was going to people's private and I was going to people's private and I was going to people's houses and and and training some people houses and and and training some people houses and and and training some people at my place and wherever, right? And um at my place and wherever, right? And um at my place and wherever, right? And um I was so big on meal prepping. So a lot I was so big on meal prepping. So a lot I was so big on meal prepping. So a lot of my clients would pay me to meal prep of my clients would pay me to meal prep of my clients would pay me to meal prep for them after I so I train them and I'd for them after I so I train them and I'd for them after I so I train them and I'd stay there for another two hours and and stay there for another two hours and and stay there for another two hours and and I would cook for their week. I would cook for their week. I would cook for their week. >> And so and I charged a pretty good price >> And so and I charged a pretty good price >> And so and I charged a pretty good price for that. So they had to obviously for that. So they had to obviously for that. So they had to obviously provide all the groceries, all the provide all the groceries, all the provide all the groceries, all the things. Did I give Melissa something? things. Did I give Melissa something? things. Did I give Melissa something? >> But this is like this is this is a whole >> But this is like this is this is a whole >> But this is like this is this is a whole other back on with that kind of other back on with that kind of other back on with that kind of accessibility. accessibility. accessibility. >> But this is so cool. This is like your >> But this is so cool. This is like your >> But this is so cool. This is like your own house, your own kitchen. You want to own house, your own kitchen. You want to own house, your own kitchen. You want to make food. You get this permit make food. You get this permit make food. You get this permit >> and you could just you can make food and >> and you could just you can make food and >> and you could just you can make food and deliver it yourself. deliver it yourself. deliver it yourself. >> Well, that's how they make what I would >> Well, that's how they make what I would >> Well, that's how they make what I would do is I would make that a part of my do is I would make that a part of my do is I would make that a part of my training service. training service. training service. >> I would sell people on their personal >> I would sell people on their personal >> I would sell people on their personal training and it'd be like I also have a training and it'd be like I also have a training and it'd be like I also have a a meal prep service that I I run out of a meal prep service that I I run out of a meal prep service that I I run out of my house and I my house and I my house and I >> You know what I think of? I think of >> You know what I think of? I think of >> You know what I think of? I think of like a stay-at-home like parent, like like a stay-at-home like parent, like like a stay-at-home like parent, like stay at home mom who wants to supplement stay at home mom who wants to supplement stay at home mom who wants to supplement >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> their income. And she's like, you know, >> their income. And she's like, you know, >> their income. And she's like, you know, cuz they said up to 100 grand a year. cuz they said up to 100 grand a year. cuz they said up to 100 grand a year. And she's like, you know what I'm going And she's like, you know what I'm going And she's like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make some meals. I'm to do? I'm going to make some meals. I'm to do? I'm going to make some meals. I'm going to service the neighborhood. going to service the neighborhood. going to service the neighborhood. >> Tell Courtney about this cuz she makes >> Tell Courtney about this cuz she makes >> Tell Courtney about this cuz she makes the best sourdough out of anybody I've the best sourdough out of anybody I've the best sourdough out of anybody I've ever had. ever had. ever had. >> I've tried it. You brought it here, >> I've tried it. You brought it here, >> I've tried it. You brought it here, dude. It's incredible. dude. It's incredible. dude. It's incredible. >> And I'm like, we got to we got to >> And I'm like, we got to we got to >> And I'm like, we got to we got to monetize this. monetize this. monetize this. >> It's so funny when I heard this though, >> It's so funny when I heard this though, >> It's so funny when I heard this though, when I read this, I'm like, they've been when I read this, I'm like, they've been when I read this, I'm like, they've been doing this in San Jose for a I've had doing this in San Jose for a I've had doing this in San Jose for a I've had tamali out of somebody's drive car tamali out of somebody's drive car tamali out of somebody's drive car before. You know, here homemade tamalei before. You know, here homemade tamalei before. You know, here homemade tamalei so much better. so much better. so much better. >> I've had that all before. >> I've had that all before. >> I've had that all before. >> The illegal ones illegal. >> The illegal ones illegal. >> The illegal ones illegal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Whatever, dude. The best. Those are the >> Whatever, dude. The best. Those are the >> Whatever, dude. The best. Those are the best ones. best ones. best ones. >> Drive by East San Jose. So So did you >> Drive by East San Jose. So So did you >> Drive by East San Jose. So So did you guys guys guys >> Is that what it's called right there, >> Is that what it's called right there, >> Is that what it's called right there, Doug? Doug? Doug? >> Yeah. Eat with is an app you can get. So >> Yeah. Eat with is an app you can get. So >> Yeah. Eat with is an app you can get. So you can go to people's houses and try you can go to people's houses and try you can go to people's houses and try out their fair. out their fair. out their fair. >> That's kind of cool. >> That's kind of cool. >> That's kind of cool. >> It's super I think that's super cool. I >> It's super I think that's super cool. I >> It's super I think that's super cool. I like it. like it. like it. >> Have you guys heard of these rage rooms? >> Have you guys heard of these rage rooms? >> Have you guys heard of these rage rooms? Have you heard of these? Have you heard of these? Have you heard of these? >> Rage rooms. >> Rage rooms. >> Rage rooms. >> Rage Doug. Look at Rage Room. >> Rage Doug. Look at Rage Room. >> Rage Doug. Look at Rage Room. >> They break stuff, right? Is that what it >> They break stuff, right? Is that what it >> They break stuff, right? Is that what it is? I have heard of that. Yeah. You put is? I have heard of that. Yeah. You put is? I have heard of that. Yeah. You put goggles on, they give you a bat like an goggles on, they give you a bat like an goggles on, they give you a bat like an old car going smashing car. old car going smashing car. old car going smashing car. >> I guess there's like a a huge demand. >> I guess there's like a a huge demand. >> I guess there's like a a huge demand. It's growing. And it's fe women. It's It's growing. And it's fe women. It's It's growing. And it's fe women. It's surging in female customers who want to surging in female customers who want to surging in female customers who want to go in and break stuff, dude. Well, see go in and break stuff, dude. Well, see go in and break stuff, dude. Well, see that makes sense cuz I remember when I that makes sense cuz I remember when I that makes sense cuz I remember when I was training and I would introduce some was training and I would introduce some was training and I would introduce some clients just to like, you know, as a as clients just to like, you know, as a as clients just to like, you know, as a as a change of pace, we do some boxing and a change of pace, we do some boxing and a change of pace, we do some boxing and we just like hold mits and it was just we just like hold mits and it was just we just like hold mits and it was just like like I just opened up a can of like like I just opened up a can of like like I just opened up a can of worms, you know, just just wouldn't worms, you know, just just wouldn't worms, you know, just just wouldn't stop. I had this one lady hitting me stop. I had this one lady hitting me stop. I had this one lady hitting me forever. forever. forever. >> They have some here in San Jose >> They have some here in San Jose >> They have some here in San Jose >> down the street. >> down the street. >> down the street. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Yeah, right down the street. >> Yeah, right down the street. >> Yeah, right down the street. >> No, Justin. >> No, Justin. >> No, Justin. >> Oh, I want to do that. >> Oh, I want to do that. >> Oh, I want to do that. >> 30 minute sessions, 45 bucks. >> 30 minute sessions, 45 bucks. >> 30 minute sessions, 45 bucks. >> 30 Who is Who is raging for 30 minutes? >> 30 Who is Who is raging for 30 minutes? >> 30 Who is Who is raging for 30 minutes? >> That's a long time. That's a long time, >> That's a long time. That's a long time, >> That's a long time. That's a long time, dude. You got some demons to deal with. dude. You got some demons to deal with. dude. You got some demons to deal with. >> A good a good five minutes and you're >> A good a good five minutes and you're >> A good a good five minutes and you're probably done, probably done, probably done, >> bro. 45 bucks and you go in there and >> bro. 45 bucks and you go in there and >> bro. 45 bucks and you go in there and you just break stuff. you just break stuff. you just break stuff. >> Yeah, but how satisfying is that, dude? >> Yeah, but how satisfying is that, dude? >> Yeah, but how satisfying is that, dude? Especially with glass. Like when you Especially with glass. Like when you Especially with glass. Like when you hear broken glass when you're smashing hear broken glass when you're smashing hear broken glass when you're smashing through. through. through. >> I feel like I feel like blue collar >> I feel like I feel like blue collar >> I feel like I feel like blue collar workers and I got so much trouble. My workers and I got so much trouble. My workers and I got so much trouble. My when we were kids, my uncle used to his when we were kids, my uncle used to his when we were kids, my uncle used to his dad dad dad >> used to collect recycle and he in his >> used to collect recycle and he in his >> used to collect recycle and he in his backyard he just used to just keep all backyard he just used to just keep all backyard he just used to just keep all the bottles the bottles the bottles >> and just like a bunch of kids we you >> and just like a bunch of kids we you >> and just like a bunch of kids we you know started throwing rocks and just we know started throwing rocks and just we know started throwing rocks and just we started shattering all just just dumb started shattering all just just dumb started shattering all just just dumb you know just not thinking at all. you know just not thinking at all. you know just not thinking at all. >> Oh boy he got whooped bad so bad when he >> Oh boy he got whooped bad so bad when he >> Oh boy he got whooped bad so bad when he got home for that just shattered all got home for that just shattered all got home for that just shattered all this all these glass bottles. this all these glass bottles. this all these glass bottles. >> You know what's really satisfying to >> You know what's really satisfying to >> You know what's really satisfying to break really satisfying? Uh like long break really satisfying? Uh like long break really satisfying? Uh like long mirrors. mirrors. mirrors. >> No, incandescent lights or whatever. >> No, incandescent lights or whatever. >> No, incandescent lights or whatever. >> Oh, those that shadow, >> Oh, those that shadow, >> Oh, those that shadow, >> bro. You throw those. Yeah, >> bro. You throw those. Yeah, >> bro. You throw those. Yeah, >> those are a good time. >> those are a good time. >> those are a good time. >> Don't inhale those fumes. >> Don't inhale those fumes. >> Don't inhale those fumes. >> Yeah, that was that was my favorite that >> Yeah, that was that was my favorite that >> Yeah, that was that was my favorite that when I would go to work with my dad and when I would go to work with my dad and when I would go to work with my dad and we would go do a demo. Like he'd go redo we would go do a demo. Like he'd go redo we would go do a demo. Like he'd go redo a kitchen a kitchen a kitchen >> and he'd give me a sledgehammer and he'd >> and he'd give me a sledgehammer and he'd >> and he'd give me a sledgehammer and he'd be like, "All right, here. Break, you be like, "All right, here. Break, you be like, "All right, here. Break, you know, break the countertops, break know, break the countertops, break know, break the countertops, break whatever." whatever." whatever." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Until you get exhausted, cuz it is >> Until you get exhausted, cuz it is >> Until you get exhausted, cuz it is exhausting. But at first, it's like, exhausting. But at first, it's like, exhausting. But at first, it's like, >> can you imagine 30 minutes in a break >> can you imagine 30 minutes in a break >> can you imagine 30 minutes in a break room thing? You would not go more than 5 room thing? You would not go more than 5 room thing? You would not go more than 5 minutes. You wouldn't go. I bet three minutes. You wouldn't go. I bet three minutes. You wouldn't go. I bet three hard minutes and you would be done. hard minutes and you would be done. hard minutes and you would be done. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's like a It's like a boxing match, >> It's like a It's like a boxing match, >> It's like a It's like a boxing match, dude. Like everybody's like, "Yeah, I'll dude. Like everybody's like, "Yeah, I'll dude. Like everybody's like, "Yeah, I'll go fight box one round." go fight box one round." go fight box one round." >> I remember doing a demo of like a few >> I remember doing a demo of like a few >> I remember doing a demo of like a few houses and like you'd go for like an houses and like you'd go for like an houses and like you'd go for like an hour and you were just torched. hour and you were just torched. hour and you were just torched. >> Yeah. Yeah, bro. >> Yeah. Yeah, bro. >> Yeah. Yeah, bro. >> Oh my god. The first couple swings are >> Oh my god. The first couple swings are >> Oh my god. The first couple swings are fun. fun. fun. >> Even if you use a jackhammer, you ever >> Even if you use a jackhammer, you ever >> Even if you use a jackhammer, you ever use a jackhammer? use a jackhammer? use a jackhammer? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh god, your whole body. >> Oh god, your whole body. >> Oh god, your whole body. >> Oh, dude. Afterwards, too. Yeah. You're >> Oh, dude. Afterwards, too. Yeah. You're >> Oh, dude. Afterwards, too. Yeah. You're just numb and like your arms just raise just numb and like your arms just raise just numb and like your arms just raise up. You're like, up. You're like, up. You're like, >> they look easy, right? Then you grab >> they look easy, right? Then you grab >> they look easy, right? Then you grab one. forget it. I was uh earlier uh this one. forget it. I was uh earlier uh this one. forget it. I was uh earlier uh this morning I was uh working out and I saw morning I was uh working out and I saw morning I was uh working out and I saw some posts on um balance some posts on um balance some posts on um balance >> uh you know you have balance in your >> uh you know you have balance in your >> uh you know you have balance in your life or whatever and um it's I think life or whatever and um it's I think life or whatever and um it's I think it's a it's our idea of balance is such it's a it's our idea of balance is such it's a it's our idea of balance is such a myth. a myth. a myth. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um I I think what we mean by balance >> Um I I think what we mean by balance >> Um I I think what we mean by balance because I know what people mean. I think because I know what people mean. I think because I know what people mean. I think what they mean is that your priorities what they mean is that your priorities what they mean is that your priorities are in the right order. I think that's are in the right order. I think that's are in the right order. I think that's what they mean by it because what they mean by it because what they mean by it because >> Mhm. uh if priorities in the wrong >> Mhm. uh if priorities in the wrong >> Mhm. uh if priorities in the wrong order, that's when things kind of get order, that's when things kind of get order, that's when things kind of get messed up. messed up. messed up. >> Yeah, you can't really divvy that up >> Yeah, you can't really divvy that up >> Yeah, you can't really divvy that up like equally. It's just yeah, whatever like equally. It's just yeah, whatever like equally. It's just yeah, whatever you think is your priority is where you you think is your priority is where you you think is your priority is where you want to spend the most. want to spend the most. want to spend the most. >> So, and the idea that I thought of or or >> So, and the idea that I thought of or or >> So, and the idea that I thought of or or the the the just the topic around this I the the the just the topic around this I the the the just the topic around this I thought of was like like uh this is a thought of was like like uh this is a thought of was like like uh this is a common one people talk about like uh common one people talk about like uh common one people talk about like uh work and family like work and family work and family like work and family work and family like work and family balance, right? balance, right? balance, right? >> And if you place work too high on the >> And if you place work too high on the >> And if you place work too high on the priority list, you end up sacrificing priority list, you end up sacrificing priority list, you end up sacrificing your family for work. Mhm. your family for work. Mhm. your family for work. Mhm. >> Uh but work is really important and >> Uh but work is really important and >> Uh but work is really important and sometimes you do place work high on the sometimes you do place work high on the sometimes you do place work high on the prior list to serve your family. prior list to serve your family. prior list to serve your family. >> It changes. >> It changes. >> It changes. >> Yeah. So the idea of balance I think is >> Yeah. So the idea of balance I think is >> Yeah. So the idea of balance I think is some people think that's it's like some people think that's it's like some people think that's it's like 50/50. It's always moving. 50/50. It's always moving. 50/50. It's always moving. >> I also think that we we tend to look at >> I also think that we we tend to look at >> I also think that we we tend to look at it through this lens like this 24-hour it through this lens like this 24-hour it through this lens like this 24-hour window lens window lens window lens >> where it's like you you don't have >> where it's like you you don't have >> where it's like you you don't have balance in like a 24. Now maybe when you balance in like a 24. Now maybe when you balance in like a 24. Now maybe when you when you zoom out over the course of six when you zoom out over the course of six when you zoom out over the course of six months or a year kind of to your point months or a year kind of to your point months or a year kind of to your point there's time there's definitely uh weeks there's time there's definitely uh weeks there's time there's definitely uh weeks of work where work is taking a very high of work where work is taking a very high of work where work is taking a very high priority and I'll even bring some of priority and I'll even bring some of priority and I'll even bring some of work home and it's just like and I don't work home and it's just like and I don't work home and it's just like and I don't get the same amount of play time with my get the same amount of play time with my get the same amount of play time with my son as I normally do son as I normally do son as I normally do >> depending on the projects or whatever is >> depending on the projects or whatever is >> depending on the projects or whatever is in front. in front. in front. >> Yeah. And then and then and then then >> Yeah. And then and then and then then >> Yeah. And then and then and then then then some then it gets a little bit then some then it gets a little bit then some then it gets a little bit slower and easier and then I immediately slower and easier and then I immediately slower and easier and then I immediately get to spend more time with my son and get to spend more time with my son and get to spend more time with my son and do those things. And so it's like it do those things. And so it's like it do those things. And so it's like it doesn't look like this perfect even pie doesn't look like this perfect even pie doesn't look like this perfect even pie chart balance every day. chart balance every day. chart balance every day. >> But when you zoom out over the course of >> But when you zoom out over the course of >> But when you zoom out over the course of a year, I'd say, yeah, I definitely a year, I'd say, yeah, I definitely a year, I'd say, yeah, I definitely prioritize my family as number one. And prioritize my family as number one. And prioritize my family as number one. And yes, work is really important. Yes, I do yes, work is really important. Yes, I do yes, work is really important. Yes, I do spend a lot of good time with my friends spend a lot of good time with my friends spend a lot of good time with my friends and stuff like that, but I go in these and stuff like that, but I go in these and stuff like that, but I go in these sprints uh and I I could go three months sprints uh and I I could go three months sprints uh and I I could go three months and not see my best friend because it's and not see my best friend because it's and not see my best friend because it's just we're so busy. just we're so busy. just we're so busy. >> But again, I think it's it's really >> But again, I think it's it's really >> But again, I think it's it's really balance is the wrong word. I think it's balance is the wrong word. I think it's balance is the wrong word. I think it's uh you have to are things in the right uh you have to are things in the right uh you have to are things in the right order because you can spend more time at order because you can spend more time at order because you can spend more time at work than you say let's say spend with work than you say let's say spend with work than you say let's say spend with your family but it's in service of your your family but it's in service of your your family but it's in service of your family. family. family. >> So I think it's more about uh where it >> So I think it's more about uh where it >> So I think it's more about uh where it is in the priority list and the time is in the priority list and the time is in the priority list and the time spent doing it doesn't necessarily spent doing it doesn't necessarily spent doing it doesn't necessarily >> that's a good point s because there's >> that's a good point s because there's >> that's a good point s because there's also and I think uh also and I think uh also and I think uh >> because there's some people that work a >> because there's some people that work a >> because there's some people that work a lot of hours to serve their family. They lot of hours to serve their family. They lot of hours to serve their family. They have no choice. So it doesn't mean that have no choice. So it doesn't mean that have no choice. So it doesn't mean that work is more important. No, work is more important. No, work is more important. No, >> it's that they're doing it for their >> it's that they're doing it for their >> it's that they're doing it for their >> and the same is also true. There's a lot >> and the same is also true. There's a lot >> and the same is also true. There's a lot of people that work very hard that don't of people that work very hard that don't of people that work very hard that don't they're not doing it for their family, they're not doing it for their family, they're not doing it for their family, they're doing it for themselves or they're doing it for themselves or they're doing it for themselves or they're escaping from their family. they're escaping from their family. they're escaping from their family. >> So I don't think it's a time thing. I >> So I don't think it's a time thing. I >> So I don't think it's a time thing. I think it's a really you have to examine think it's a really you have to examine think it's a really you have to examine uh importance. What am I serving here? uh importance. What am I serving here? uh importance. What am I serving here? Because whatever's at the top, Because whatever's at the top, Because whatever's at the top, everything underneath it sacrifices. You everything underneath it sacrifices. You everything underneath it sacrifices. You sacrifice uh the priorities uh that are sacrifice uh the priorities uh that are sacrifice uh the priorities uh that are under the top priority. Top priority under the top priority. Top priority under the top priority. Top priority becomes uh like a god and everything becomes uh like a god and everything becomes uh like a god and everything else gets sacrificed to it. So if you're else gets sacrificed to it. So if you're else gets sacrificed to it. So if you're if you really do prioritize work if you really do prioritize work if you really do prioritize work genuinely more than your family, you're genuinely more than your family, you're genuinely more than your family, you're going to sacrifice your family. going to sacrifice your family. going to sacrifice your family. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For your work. But I don't think it's a >> For your work. But I don't think it's a >> For your work. But I don't think it's a balance as we understand it because I balance as we understand it because I balance as we understand it because I don't know if that really exists. don't know if that really exists. don't know if that really exists. >> At least not the way we communicate. Not >> At least not the way we communicate. Not >> At least not the way we communicate. Not the way we communicate. the way we communicate. the way we communicate. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with that. I >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with that. I >> Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with that. I think it's one of those things that it's think it's one of those things that it's think it's one of those things that it's uh it's misleading uh it's misleading uh it's misleading >> and and and tough to understand. But you >> and and and tough to understand. But you >> and and and tough to understand. But you I and I definitely think people use the I and I definitely think people use the I and I definitely think people use the use what you just said on both sides use what you just said on both sides use what you just said on both sides because I definitely think there's because I definitely think there's because I definitely think there's people that oh I'm I'm I'm work working people that oh I'm I'm I'm work working people that oh I'm I'm I'm work working all these hours doing this thing for my all these hours doing this thing for my all these hours doing this thing for my family when the your wife might say family when the your wife might say family when the your wife might say something like hey I I'd be happy if we something like hey I I'd be happy if we something like hey I I'd be happy if we lived in a trailer and it was just me lived in a trailer and it was just me lived in a trailer and it was just me and you and it's like so then if that's and you and it's like so then if that's and you and it's like so then if that's true then you're probably not really true then you're probably not really true then you're probably not really >> right >> right >> right >> serving your family. it's more something >> serving your family. it's more something >> serving your family. it's more something to do with yourself than it really is to do with yourself than it really is to do with yourself than it really is that person versus if you're you are that person versus if you're you are that person versus if you're you are grinded to do so at that and so you you grinded to do so at that and so you you grinded to do so at that and so you you can now offer the opportunity for your can now offer the opportunity for your can now offer the opportunity for your wife to not work or to be with the kids wife to not work or to be with the kids wife to not work or to be with the kids more often or that you guys can take more often or that you guys can take more often or that you guys can take that vacation that you want to like I that vacation that you want to like I that vacation that you want to like I think uh I think you have to really think uh I think you have to really think uh I think you have to really examine that examine that examine that >> you know what I haven't seen in here in >> you know what I haven't seen in here in >> you know what I haven't seen in here in a while uh is the [ __ ] a while uh is the [ __ ] a while uh is the [ __ ] >> or the happy drops. >> or the happy drops. >> or the happy drops. >> Yeah. What's going on why are they why >> Yeah. What's going on why are they why >> Yeah. What's going on why are they why are we short on both? are we short on both? are we short on both? >> We don't have any in stock that's why >> We don't have any in stock that's why >> We don't have any in stock that's why >> did they sell out? No, I don't think >> did they sell out? No, I don't think >> did they sell out? No, I don't think we've received any recently. we've received any recently. we've received any recently. >> I know Shili and the Happy Drops uh are >> I know Shili and the Happy Drops uh are >> I know Shili and the Happy Drops uh are the two two of the most popular. the two two of the most popular. the two two of the most popular. >> They are. Yeah. >> They are. Yeah. >> They are. Yeah. >> products that Organifi sells. They crush >> products that Organifi sells. They crush >> products that Organifi sells. They crush uh and people repeat by them. The happy uh and people repeat by them. The happy uh and people repeat by them. The happy drops people love. They feel them. And drops people love. They feel them. And drops people love. They feel them. And then the Sheila then the Sheila then the Sheila uh I'm seeing messages from people uh I'm seeing messages from people uh I'm seeing messages from people saying that they do feel uh athletic saying that they do feel uh athletic saying that they do feel uh athletic performance boosts performance boosts performance boosts >> from from >> from from >> from from >> I like when we have them in here, so I >> I like when we have them in here, so I >> I like when we have them in here, so I don't know why. don't know why. don't know why. >> I haven't seen them in a long time. No, >> I haven't seen them in a long time. No, >> I haven't seen them in a long time. No, this is a while. this is a while. this is a while. >> It knows the longest stretch that we've >> It knows the longest stretch that we've >> It knows the longest stretch that we've had. I thought one of you was hoarding had. I thought one of you was hoarding had. I thought one of you was hoarding them or someone was taking them home. them or someone was taking them home. them or someone was taking them home. >> That's why I looked at Doug and asked >> That's why I looked at Doug and asked >> That's why I looked at Doug and asked him on his desk or over there by Justin. him on his desk or over there by Justin. him on his desk or over there by Justin. >> Yeah, I know. It's usually a go-to. >> Yeah, I know. It's usually a go-to. >> Yeah, I know. It's usually a go-to. Especially the happy drops for me cuz uh Especially the happy drops for me cuz uh Especially the happy drops for me cuz uh Yeah, it's just one of those especially Yeah, it's just one of those especially Yeah, it's just one of those especially middle of the day. It's like, oh, grab middle of the day. It's like, oh, grab middle of the day. It's like, oh, grab some of those before the podcast. some of those before the podcast. some of those before the podcast. >> What's the main thing that's inside the >> What's the main thing that's inside the >> What's the main thing that's inside the happy drop again? Then what's that happy drop again? Then what's that happy drop again? Then what's that flower called or whatever? flower called or whatever? flower called or whatever? >> It's uh uh what's it called? Saffron. >> It's uh uh what's it called? Saffron. >> It's uh uh what's it called? Saffron. >> Saffron. Is it? It's a flower. Is it a >> Saffron. Is it? It's a flower. Is it a >> Saffron. Is it? It's a flower. Is it a considered flower? considered flower? considered flower? >> It's part of the flower. >> It's part of the flower. >> It's part of the flower. >> Yeah. And so part of Yeah. There's >> Yeah. And so part of Yeah. There's >> Yeah. And so part of Yeah. There's studies on it for depression and anxiety studies on it for depression and anxiety studies on it for depression and anxiety and in women. There's also some libido and in women. There's also some libido and in women. There's also some libido studies and they're legit. Look them up studies and they're legit. Look them up studies and they're legit. Look them up yourself. Saffron is got some legit uh yourself. Saffron is got some legit uh yourself. Saffron is got some legit uh studies. It's an herb that actually has studies. It's an herb that actually has studies. It's an herb that actually has some pretty interesting effects and some pretty interesting effects and some pretty interesting effects and that's one of the main ingredients. that's one of the main ingredients. that's one of the main ingredients. >> That's like the the main the main thing >> That's like the the main the main thing >> That's like the the main the main thing that's affected. It has other stuff, but that's affected. It has other stuff, but that's affected. It has other stuff, but I know that's the main I know that's the main I know that's the main >> and it's got the the the type of saffron >> and it's got the the the type of saffron >> and it's got the the the type of saffron uh that is the one you want. It's uh that is the one you want. It's uh that is the one you want. It's sourced very very well, which is the sourced very very well, which is the sourced very very well, which is the problem with herbs. Uh is how is it problem with herbs. Uh is how is it problem with herbs. Uh is how is it sourced? sourced? sourced? >> Uh but Organifi, you know, those guys, >> Uh but Organifi, you know, those guys, >> Uh but Organifi, you know, those guys, they they they >> Yeah. where where would something be >> Yeah. where where would something be >> Yeah. where where would something be poorly sourced like poorly sourced like poorly sourced like >> so there are companies that specialize >> so there are companies that specialize >> so there are companies that specialize in uh in producing a particular in uh in producing a particular in uh in producing a particular ingredient for example creatine creure ingredient for example creatine creure ingredient for example creatine creure is well known for being a high quality is well known for being a high quality is well known for being a high quality uh source of creatine and so you could uh source of creatine and so you could uh source of creatine and so you could buy different companies of creatine buy different companies of creatine buy different companies of creatine >> look on the back and see it's made from >> look on the back and see it's made from >> look on the back and see it's made from uh from that um the chilleit uh from that um the chilleit uh from that um the chilleit >> uh their chiligit is prima so this is a >> uh their chiligit is prima so this is a >> uh their chiligit is prima so this is a company company company >> they have to go to the source to get it >> they have to go to the source to get it >> they have to go to the source to get it as opposed to growing as opposed to growing as opposed to growing Yeah. No, no supplement company's Yeah. No, no supplement company's Yeah. No, no supplement company's growing their own stuff. They they get growing their own stuff. They they get growing their own stuff. They they get it from other companies. it from other companies. it from other companies. >> So, uh Prima is uh the best chille. This >> So, uh Prima is uh the best chille. This >> So, uh Prima is uh the best chille. This is the stuff you get. This is what you is the stuff you get. This is what you is the stuff you get. This is what you see in the studies. see in the studies. see in the studies. >> Uh the saffron that they use is from >> Uh the saffron that they use is from >> Uh the saffron that they use is from safractive I think is the name of the safractive I think is the name of the safractive I think is the name of the company. Okay. company. Okay. company. Okay. >> That provides it. So, they've got the >> That provides it. So, they've got the >> That provides it. So, they've got the best source of these active ingredient. best source of these active ingredient. best source of these active ingredient. >> Got it. So, when you say sourcing, it's >> Got it. So, when you say sourcing, it's >> Got it. So, when you say sourcing, it's not like uh the company like Organifi. not like uh the company like Organifi. not like uh the company like Organifi. They they've gone out and they found who They they've gone out and they found who They they've gone out and they found who is the best at getting sourcing that is the best at getting sourcing that is the best at getting sourcing that >> and that's what you want unless the >> and that's what you want unless the >> and that's what you want unless the company itself they're probably paying a company itself they're probably paying a company itself they're probably paying a premium to get that versus uh going premium to get that versus uh going premium to get that versus uh going through some company that is through some company that is through some company that is >> unless cuz look, there's two ways you >> unless cuz look, there's two ways you >> unless cuz look, there's two ways you could work in the supplement industry. could work in the supplement industry. could work in the supplement industry. One is you you sell single ingredients One is you you sell single ingredients One is you you sell single ingredients and you can source them well or not. So and you can source them well or not. So and you can source them well or not. So you get the bulk ingredient. So you you get the bulk ingredient. So you you get the bulk ingredient. So you could be like company from China that could be like company from China that could be like company from China that sells bulk whatever. Or you could be a sells bulk whatever. Or you could be a sells bulk whatever. Or you could be a company that's like, "No, no, check out company that's like, "No, no, check out company that's like, "No, no, check out our stuff. Third party tested our stuff. Third party tested our stuff. Third party tested constantly. We're known for our quality. constantly. We're known for our quality. constantly. We're known for our quality. If you want to sell uh saffron, you get If you want to sell uh saffron, you get If you want to sell uh saffron, you get it from us. uh were the stuff that's in it from us. uh were the stuff that's in it from us. uh were the stuff that's in studies, you know, type of deal. So, studies, you know, type of deal. So, studies, you know, type of deal. So, yeah, sephractive. So, they use uh a yeah, sephractive. So, they use uh a yeah, sephractive. So, they use uh a really, really good well source saffron. really, really good well source saffron. really, really good well source saffron. 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Find out more at mindpunfitnesscoaching.com. First question is from Brett Richards87. First question is from Brett Richards87. Instead of skipping a day of training Instead of skipping a day of training Instead of skipping a day of training because of poor sleep, should I walk because of poor sleep, should I walk because of poor sleep, should I walk instead to get steps? How many days can instead to get steps? How many days can instead to get steps? How many days can I skip in a row before strength training I skip in a row before strength training I skip in a row before strength training becomes predominantly cardio? Okay, I becomes predominantly cardio? Okay, I becomes predominantly cardio? Okay, I don't know what that second part means, don't know what that second part means, don't know what that second part means, but we'll answer the first one. Uh, but we'll answer the first one. Uh, but we'll answer the first one. Uh, yeah, you could of course still move. In yeah, you could of course still move. In yeah, you could of course still move. In fact, if you have poor sleep, you can fact, if you have poor sleep, you can fact, if you have poor sleep, you can also still work out, also still work out, also still work out, >> just moderate, >> just moderate, >> just moderate, >> just really low intensity. >> just really low intensity. >> just really low intensity. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um, now really, now here's when you >> Um, now really, now here's when you >> Um, now really, now here's when you don't work out. Uh, when it's like don't work out. Uh, when it's like don't work out. Uh, when it's like unbelievably terrible sleep. unbelievably terrible sleep. unbelievably terrible sleep. >> Yeah. Yeah. Chronic bad. >> Yeah. Yeah. Chronic bad. >> Yeah. Yeah. Chronic bad. >> Yeah. Yeah. But if you get like a night >> Yeah. Yeah. But if you get like a night >> Yeah. Yeah. But if you get like a night of bad sleep and you're supposed to work of bad sleep and you're supposed to work of bad sleep and you're supposed to work out the next day, out the next day, out the next day, >> just drop the intensity. Uh, just work >> just drop the intensity. Uh, just work >> just drop the intensity. Uh, just work out at a lower intensity. just out at a lower intensity. just out at a lower intensity. just contracting the muscles will help you contracting the muscles will help you contracting the muscles will help you recover and all that. recover and all that. recover and all that. >> It's it's invigorating. It'll probably >> It's it's invigorating. It'll probably >> It's it's invigorating. It'll probably wake you up, make you feel good. The wake you up, make you feel good. The wake you up, make you feel good. The problem is when you people go super hard problem is when you people go super hard problem is when you people go super hard after a day of poor sleep, uh the injury after a day of poor sleep, uh the injury after a day of poor sleep, uh the injury risk uh is is really high with something risk uh is is really high with something risk uh is is really high with something like that. like that. like that. >> And and just so we're clear, uh you >> And and just so we're clear, uh you >> And and just so we're clear, uh you know, five days in a row of not know, five days in a row of not know, five days in a row of not weightlifting and just doing lots of weightlifting and just doing lots of weightlifting and just doing lots of walking doesn't mean you're you're walking doesn't mean you're you're walking doesn't mean you're you're training your cardiovascular system. training your cardiovascular system. training your cardiovascular system. there's a there's a cardio threshold, there's a there's a cardio threshold, there's a there's a cardio threshold, meaning your there's a point at which meaning your there's a point at which meaning your there's a point at which your heart get elevates to a point where your heart get elevates to a point where your heart get elevates to a point where it then is in the cardio place. Uh it then is in the cardio place. Uh it then is in the cardio place. Uh walking doesn't do that. Uh you're far walking doesn't do that. Uh you're far walking doesn't do that. Uh you're far from that. That's low inensity steady from that. That's low inensity steady from that. That's low inensity steady state uh keeps your heart rate below state uh keeps your heart rate below state uh keeps your heart rate below that and you're not like in so like in that and you're not like in so like in that and you're not like in so like in other words if you're fearful of like if other words if you're fearful of like if other words if you're fearful of like if I walked every day 10,000 steps on the I walked every day 10,000 steps on the I walked every day 10,000 steps on the treadmill and I didn't lift weights that treadmill and I didn't lift weights that treadmill and I didn't lift weights that do I all a sudden go into that I'm now do I all a sudden go into that I'm now do I all a sudden go into that I'm now going to pair muscle down and and lose going to pair muscle down and and lose going to pair muscle down and and lose muscle like you're not going to now if muscle like you're not going to now if muscle like you're not going to now if you uh ran uh for two hours every day you uh ran uh for two hours every day you uh ran uh for two hours every day and didn't lift weights uh for five days and didn't lift weights uh for five days and didn't lift weights uh for five days in a row. in a row. in a row. >> You're just trying to become an >> You're just trying to become an >> You're just trying to become an endurance machine. endurance machine. endurance machine. >> Yeah. Exactly. And so then then that >> Yeah. Exactly. And so then then that >> Yeah. Exactly. And so then then that could but walking, no, you're not that's could but walking, no, you're not that's could but walking, no, you're not that's not going to happen. not going to happen. not going to happen. >> Yeah, that's going to be good for you. >> Yeah, that's going to be good for you. >> Yeah, that's going to be good for you. But I'm I'm with S. Uh you know, maybe I But I'm I'm with S. Uh you know, maybe I But I'm I'm with S. Uh you know, maybe I take a day off if it's really really take a day off if it's really really take a day off if it's really really bad, but the second day is even if it bad, but the second day is even if it bad, but the second day is even if it wasn't the greatest sleep, I I might wasn't the greatest sleep, I I might wasn't the greatest sleep, I I might just go through the motions and just just go through the motions and just just go through the motions and just back off my intensity. back off my intensity. back off my intensity. >> That's right. Typically what I do, cuz >> That's right. Typically what I do, cuz >> That's right. Typically what I do, cuz I'll have nights of bad sleep and I I'll have nights of bad sleep and I I'll have nights of bad sleep and I rarely miss workouts, uh I go in and I rarely miss workouts, uh I go in and I rarely miss workouts, uh I go in and I do probably half the volume. Uh and it's do probably half the volume. Uh and it's do probably half the volume. Uh and it's a it's a just a lower intensity. I'm a it's a just a lower intensity. I'm a it's a just a lower intensity. I'm just feeling the muscle, feeling good. just feeling the muscle, feeling good. just feeling the muscle, feeling good. >> Uh instead of doing, you know, four >> Uh instead of doing, you know, four >> Uh instead of doing, you know, four exercises for an area, I'll do two or exercises for an area, I'll do two or exercises for an area, I'll do two or something like that. Or instead of doing something like that. Or instead of doing something like that. Or instead of doing four sets, I'll do two. four sets, I'll do two. four sets, I'll do two. >> Yeah, I usually start with body weight >> Yeah, I usually start with body weight >> Yeah, I usually start with body weight or bands and then kind of work into or bands and then kind of work into or bands and then kind of work into weights if my if I feel like, okay, I weights if my if I feel like, okay, I weights if my if I feel like, okay, I could probably handle a little bit more. could probably handle a little bit more. could probably handle a little bit more. >> Next question is from Stas Adamovic. >> Next question is from Stas Adamovic. >> Next question is from Stas Adamovic. How do I add plyometrics to my MAPS 15 How do I add plyometrics to my MAPS 15 How do I add plyometrics to my MAPS 15 style program? style program? style program? >> That's a good question. Um so uh a >> That's a good question. Um so uh a >> That's a good question. Um so uh a couple things we need to understand what couple things we need to understand what couple things we need to understand what plyometric plyometrics training looks plyometric plyometrics training looks plyometric plyometrics training looks like because a lot of people like because a lot of people like because a lot of people >> also what >> also what >> also what >> very misused >> very misused >> very misused >> also what what you want it for right so >> also what what you want it for right so >> also what what you want it for right so like like like >> do we want to increase our vertical or >> do we want to increase our vertical or >> do we want to increase our vertical or are we trying to are we trying to are we trying to >> or you trying to practice maybe practice >> or you trying to practice maybe practice >> or you trying to practice maybe practice jumping jumping jumping >> maybe want to maintain the skill of >> maybe want to maintain the skill of >> maybe want to maintain the skill of jumping but yeah jumping but yeah jumping but yeah >> yeah so plyometrics are what you're >> yeah so plyometrics are what you're >> yeah so plyometrics are what you're training is the ability to um contract training is the ability to um contract training is the ability to um contract muscle muscles explosively or move in an muscle muscles explosively or move in an muscle muscles explosively or move in an explosive manner. Okay? The only you explosive manner. Okay? The only you explosive manner. Okay? The only you don't train that when you're fatigued or don't train that when you're fatigued or don't train that when you're fatigued or you don't train that too fatigue because you don't train that too fatigue because you don't train that too fatigue because you're not training what you're trying you're not training what you're trying you're not training what you're trying to get better at, right? So just jumping to get better at, right? So just jumping to get better at, right? So just jumping back and forth, which a lot of people back and forth, which a lot of people back and forth, which a lot of people will do that uh or use jumping exercises will do that uh or use jumping exercises will do that uh or use jumping exercises or plyometric looking exercises in a or plyometric looking exercises in a or plyometric looking exercises in a circuit, they're not training circuit, they're not training circuit, they're not training plyometrics. They're just getting tired. plyometrics. They're just getting tired. plyometrics. They're just getting tired. Okay? Okay? Okay? >> So if you want to train plyometrics, uh >> So if you want to train plyometrics, uh >> So if you want to train plyometrics, uh an example, we use jumping as an an example, we use jumping as an an example, we use jumping as an example. There's a lot of ways to do example. There's a lot of ways to do example. There's a lot of ways to do this, but we'll use jumping. You would this, but we'll use jumping. You would this, but we'll use jumping. You would warm up real well. So, make sure you're warm up real well. So, make sure you're warm up real well. So, make sure you're nice and warm. Uh, and then you would nice and warm. Uh, and then you would nice and warm. Uh, and then you would try to jump as high as you could, and try to jump as high as you could, and try to jump as high as you could, and you would do that once or twice. And you would do that once or twice. And you would do that once or twice. And then you'd wait for 3 minutes, and then then you'd wait for 3 minutes, and then then you'd wait for 3 minutes, and then you repeat it. Because the goal is to you repeat it. Because the goal is to you repeat it. Because the goal is to see if you could jump higher each time. see if you could jump higher each time. see if you could jump higher each time. And you you don't want fatigue to get in And you you don't want fatigue to get in And you you don't want fatigue to get in the way. Where you would install this in the way. Where you would install this in the way. Where you would install this in your Maps 15 style program would be at your Maps 15 style program would be at your Maps 15 style program would be at the beginning. the beginning. the beginning. >> Bang. It didn't work out. You could and >> Bang. It didn't work out. You could and >> Bang. It didn't work out. You could and you could do this you could do this you could do this >> focus >> focus >> focus >> two or three times or I mean mass 15 is >> two or three times or I mean mass 15 is >> two or three times or I mean mass 15 is low enough volume that you could easily low enough volume that you could easily low enough volume that you could easily do. So, and that's why I'd want to know do. So, and that's why I'd want to know do. So, and that's why I'd want to know a little bit more about this. Like, a little bit more about this. Like, a little bit more about this. Like, okay, is it jump boxes that we want to okay, is it jump boxes that we want to okay, is it jump boxes that we want to do? Is it ice skaters that you want to do? Is it ice skaters that you want to do? Is it ice skaters that you want to get into? Like, are there certain get into? Like, are there certain get into? Like, are there certain plyometric movements that you want to plyometric movements that you want to plyometric movements that you want to get good at? And then I literally would get good at? And then I literally would get good at? And then I literally would only do uh three sets of twos and just only do uh three sets of twos and just only do uh three sets of twos and just like you just recommended before my math like you just recommended before my math like you just recommended before my math 15 workout. two or three times a week. 15 workout. two or three times a week. 15 workout. two or three times a week. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If you do that, you'll get good at those >> If you do that, you'll get good at those >> If you do that, you'll get good at those things. You'll get really like you'll things. You'll get really like you'll things. You'll get really like you'll get really good at jump. You'll get get really good at jump. You'll get get really good at jump. You'll get really you'll increase your vertical or really you'll increase your vertical or really you'll increase your vertical or you'll get really good at ice skaters uh you'll get really good at ice skaters uh you'll get really good at ice skaters uh or whatever plyometric movement uh you or whatever plyometric movement uh you or whatever plyometric movement uh you want to get into. Um but you could do it want to get into. Um but you could do it want to get into. Um but you could do it first before you work out. Warm up the first before you work out. Warm up the first before you work out. Warm up the body a little bit and then just do body a little bit and then just do body a little bit and then just do >> you do like a few sets. >> you do like a few sets. >> you do like a few sets. >> Yeah. Three three. >> Yeah. Three three. >> Yeah. Three three. >> I love broad jumps for >> I love broad jumps for >> I love broad jumps for >> Yeah, broad jumps would be great. >> Yeah, broad jumps would be great. >> Yeah, broad jumps would be great. Extension. Yeah. I think it's just it's Extension. Yeah. I think it's just it's Extension. Yeah. I think it's just it's one of those things I think people one of those things I think people one of those things I think people undervalue it. But again, this is like undervalue it. But again, this is like undervalue it. But again, this is like the all the prerequisites and training. the all the prerequisites and training. the all the prerequisites and training. Uh it all depends on like what your Uh it all depends on like what your Uh it all depends on like what your joints and everything can handle, but joints and everything can handle, but joints and everything can handle, but it's definitely a valuable way to train it's definitely a valuable way to train it's definitely a valuable way to train has to be um done in a very smart has to be um done in a very smart has to be um done in a very smart efficient way. Like you don't use efficient way. Like you don't use efficient way. Like you don't use fatigue as a metric with this at all. fatigue as a metric with this at all. fatigue as a metric with this at all. >> Next question is from BMER for life. >> Next question is from BMER for life. >> Next question is from BMER for life. What's your take on the high cortisol What's your take on the high cortisol What's your take on the high cortisol thing? It seems that high cortisol is to thing? It seems that high cortisol is to thing? It seems that high cortisol is to blame for everything these days. Doesn't blame for everything these days. Doesn't blame for everything these days. Doesn't cortisol naturally rise during exercise? cortisol naturally rise during exercise? cortisol naturally rise during exercise? >> They they've taken a hormone, they've >> They they've taken a hormone, they've >> They they've taken a hormone, they've oversimplified uh the stress response, oversimplified uh the stress response, oversimplified uh the stress response, and then they've turned it into a way to and then they've turned it into a way to and then they've turned it into a way to sell or market or communicate something sell or market or communicate something sell or market or communicate something that's way more complex. So, cortisol, that's way more complex. So, cortisol, that's way more complex. So, cortisol, they call it the stress hormone. Uh but they call it the stress hormone. Uh but they call it the stress hormone. Uh but it's also the wake up hormone. It's an it's also the wake up hormone. It's an it's also the wake up hormone. It's an energy hormone. energy hormone. energy hormone. >> Your cortisol is supposed to rise in the >> Your cortisol is supposed to rise in the >> Your cortisol is supposed to rise in the morning. your if your cortisol doesn't morning. your if your cortisol doesn't morning. your if your cortisol doesn't rise in the morning, rise in the morning, rise in the morning, >> that sucks. Like you wake up and you >> that sucks. Like you wake up and you >> that sucks. Like you wake up and you feel like a zombie all day long and you feel like a zombie all day long and you feel like a zombie all day long and you need a lot of coffee to get your butt need a lot of coffee to get your butt need a lot of coffee to get your butt moving. moving. moving. >> Uh cortisol rises in the morning and >> Uh cortisol rises in the morning and >> Uh cortisol rises in the morning and then it slowly starts to drop and it then it slowly starts to drop and it then it slowly starts to drop and it gets low in the evening because that's gets low in the evening because that's gets low in the evening because that's when you're trying to go to sleep. When when you're trying to go to sleep. When when you're trying to go to sleep. When people have a inverted cortisol um you people have a inverted cortisol um you people have a inverted cortisol um you know uh system when their cortisol is know uh system when their cortisol is know uh system when their cortisol is low in the morning and starts to go up low in the morning and starts to go up low in the morning and starts to go up midm morning uh and then is high at midm morning uh and then is high at midm morning uh and then is high at night. This becomes a problem because night. This becomes a problem because night. This becomes a problem because you're wired but tired. And and what you're wired but tired. And and what you're wired but tired. And and what this looks like behaviorally is coffee this looks like behaviorally is coffee this looks like behaviorally is coffee and caffeine or stimulants throughout and caffeine or stimulants throughout and caffeine or stimulants throughout the day and alcohol at night or cannabis the day and alcohol at night or cannabis the day and alcohol at night or cannabis at night uh to wind down. And so this is at night uh to wind down. And so this is at night uh to wind down. And so this is what behaviorally what it tends to look what behaviorally what it tends to look what behaviorally what it tends to look like. Uh what they're trying to do is like. Uh what they're trying to do is like. Uh what they're trying to do is pin this hormone all the on the effects pin this hormone all the on the effects pin this hormone all the on the effects of uh stress management. So um and then of uh stress management. So um and then of uh stress management. So um and then stress management is a lot different stress management is a lot different stress management is a lot different than than the way it's communicated as than than the way it's communicated as than than the way it's communicated as well. So we're often communicated like well. So we're often communicated like well. So we're often communicated like you need to reduce the stress in your you need to reduce the stress in your you need to reduce the stress in your life. Okay. So people look at their life life. Okay. So people look at their life life. Okay. So people look at their life and like okay I guess I just like like and like okay I guess I just like like and like okay I guess I just like like move out of my house, don't live with my move out of my house, don't live with my move out of my house, don't live with my family. Like do I like not work anymore? family. Like do I like not work anymore? family. Like do I like not work anymore? uh like what do I do? Right? Uh what the uh like what do I do? Right? Uh what the uh like what do I do? Right? Uh what the actual data shows is that if you have actual data shows is that if you have actual data shows is that if you have purpose behind the stress, it's not purpose behind the stress, it's not purpose behind the stress, it's not stressful. stressful. stressful. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh so people who have this wonderful >> Uh so people who have this wonderful >> Uh so people who have this wonderful sense of purpose with with their new sense of purpose with with their new sense of purpose with with their new child that they have, they're still child that they have, they're still child that they have, they're still tough. They're still getting poor sleep, tough. They're still getting poor sleep, tough. They're still getting poor sleep, whatever. They just don't suffer from whatever. They just don't suffer from whatever. They just don't suffer from the stress like somebody who's like, I the stress like somebody who's like, I the stress like somebody who's like, I don't want to deal with this right now. don't want to deal with this right now. don't want to deal with this right now. If you go to a job that you enjoy versus If you go to a job that you enjoy versus If you go to a job that you enjoy versus one that you hate or one that feels one that you hate or one that feels one that you hate or one that feels purposeful, you can work more hours with purposeful, you can work more hours with purposeful, you can work more hours with the job that you feel good about and it the job that you feel good about and it the job that you feel good about and it doesn't have the same effect. doesn't have the same effect. doesn't have the same effect. >> Um, exercise is a stress on the body uh >> Um, exercise is a stress on the body uh >> Um, exercise is a stress on the body uh because uh and and that's one of the because uh and and that's one of the because uh and and that's one of the reasons why your body adapts to the and reasons why your body adapts to the and reasons why your body adapts to the and and gets stronger or while you build and gets stronger or while you build and gets stronger or while you build endurance. So, it's it's it's far more endurance. So, it's it's it's far more endurance. So, it's it's it's far more complex than this cortisol thing and complex than this cortisol thing and complex than this cortisol thing and cortisol is not the enemy. Uh, too much cortisol is not the enemy. Uh, too much cortisol is not the enemy. Uh, too much cortisol at the wrong times is the cortisol at the wrong times is the cortisol at the wrong times is the problem. But we need cortisol. problem. But we need cortisol. problem. But we need cortisol. >> It reminds me a bit too of like >> It reminds me a bit too of like >> It reminds me a bit too of like inflammation, how they vilify inflammation, how they vilify inflammation, how they vilify inflammation so much and how we need to inflammation so much and how we need to inflammation so much and how we need to change and structure our diet completely change and structure our diet completely change and structure our diet completely to get rid of inflammation when it's the to get rid of inflammation when it's the to get rid of inflammation when it's the signal for, you know, real growth of signal for, you know, real growth of signal for, you know, real growth of muscle growth and and so it is a vital muscle growth and and so it is a vital muscle growth and and so it is a vital part to that. But obviously, you know, part to that. But obviously, you know, part to that. But obviously, you know, need to time it and balance it. But it's need to time it and balance it. But it's need to time it and balance it. But it's the same thing. It's like the timing of, the same thing. It's like the timing of, the same thing. It's like the timing of, you know, the cortisol. It's it's you know, the cortisol. It's it's you know, the cortisol. It's it's dependent on whether or not it's dependent on whether or not it's dependent on whether or not it's beneficial. beneficial. beneficial. >> This is a really hard question to tackle >> This is a really hard question to tackle >> This is a really hard question to tackle virtually without knowing who we're virtually without knowing who we're virtually without knowing who we're talking to because I think the way I talking to because I think the way I talking to because I think the way I would communicate this is dependent on would communicate this is dependent on would communicate this is dependent on who I'm talking to, right? Like to your who I'm talking to, right? Like to your who I'm talking to, right? Like to your point, if I had a client who's like, I'm point, if I had a client who's like, I'm point, if I had a client who's like, I'm hearing all this stuff about cortisol, hearing all this stuff about cortisol, hearing all this stuff about cortisol, this and should I be worried about that this and should I be worried about that this and should I be worried about that and they've love their job, they eat and they've love their job, they eat and they've love their job, they eat well, they sleep well, they got good well, they sleep well, they got good well, they sleep well, they got good training, it's just like, yeah, yeah, training, it's just like, yeah, yeah, training, it's just like, yeah, yeah, we're not really ignore it. we're not really ignore it. we're not really ignore it. >> Ignore this. It's not it's it's it's >> Ignore this. It's not it's it's it's >> Ignore this. It's not it's it's it's noise to you. Um but I also you've noise to you. Um but I also you've noise to you. Um but I also you've probably maybe have heard us talk about probably maybe have heard us talk about probably maybe have heard us talk about uh what we call cortisol junkies which uh what we call cortisol junkies which uh what we call cortisol junkies which were these clients that were very very were these clients that were very very were these clients that were very very common with my female clients that love common with my female clients that love common with my female clients that love group X classes. Um they would be type A group X classes. Um they would be type A group X classes. Um they would be type A personality uh high stress either jobs personality uh high stress either jobs personality uh high stress either jobs or just stress person low calorie intake or just stress person low calorie intake or just stress person low calorie intake love highintensity classes and that love highintensity classes and that love highintensity classes and that gives them this cortisol dump and it gives them this cortisol dump and it gives them this cortisol dump and it makes them feel really good in the in makes them feel really good in the in makes them feel really good in the in the short term and they would be the short term and they would be the short term and they would be addicted to that feeling and that addicted to that feeling and that addicted to that feeling and that training is not and then they they training is not and then they they training is not and then they they couldn't lose weight, right? they couldn't lose weight, right? they couldn't lose weight, right? they couldn't get in shape and they couldn't couldn't get in shape and they couldn't couldn't get in shape and they couldn't figure it out and they were taking this figure it out and they were taking this figure it out and they were taking this class five days a week and eating 1500 class five days a week and eating 1500 class five days a week and eating 1500 calories and and doing all the steps and calories and and doing all the steps and calories and and doing all the steps and doing all the things and it's like we doing all the things and it's like we doing all the things and it's like we called them cortisol junkies because called them cortisol junkies because called them cortisol junkies because they're constantly chasing that next they're constantly chasing that next they're constantly chasing that next dump of cortisol in their body to give dump of cortisol in their body to give dump of cortisol in their body to give them that short-term high and so if I'm them that short-term high and so if I'm them that short-term high and so if I'm talking to that client this is a talking to that client this is a talking to that client this is a conversation this is a conversation conversation this is a conversation conversation this is a conversation about how do we how do we manage that about how do we how do we manage that about how do we how do we manage that through stress management to the point through stress management to the point through stress management to the point that you made that you made that you made >> change the way you exercise eat more >> change the way you exercise eat more >> change the way you exercise eat more >> right increase calories, reduce the >> right increase calories, reduce the >> right increase calories, reduce the intensity of their training, give them intensity of their training, give them intensity of their training, give them longer rest periods, and that so the so longer rest periods, and that so the so longer rest periods, and that so the so the the cortisol conversation becomes a the the cortisol conversation becomes a the the cortisol conversation becomes a very important conversation or to this very important conversation or to this very important conversation or to this that person in particular. So it's tough that person in particular. So it's tough that person in particular. So it's tough for me to answer that without knowing if for me to answer that without knowing if for me to answer that without knowing if who is asking that question. Are you who is asking that question. Are you who is asking that question. Are you that person? So if that if anything I that person? So if that if anything I that person? So if that if anything I just said about lower calories, having a just said about lower calories, having a just said about lower calories, having a hard time losing body fat, high stress, hard time losing body fat, high stress, hard time losing body fat, high stress, love circuit training type classes that love circuit training type classes that love circuit training type classes that you like to work out in, then maybe that you like to work out in, then maybe that you like to work out in, then maybe that that conversation is for you. But if you that conversation is for you. But if you that conversation is for you. But if you identify more with S what he said, which identify more with S what he said, which identify more with S what he said, which is, you know, you have a lot of purpose is, you know, you have a lot of purpose is, you know, you have a lot of purpose behind your heart, you work hard, but behind your heart, you work hard, but behind your heart, you work hard, but you have a lot of purpose behind it. you you have a lot of purpose behind it. you you have a lot of purpose behind it. you love what you do, you're wellfed, you're love what you do, you're wellfed, you're love what you do, you're wellfed, you're well-rested, you have a nice balance to well-rested, you have a nice balance to well-rested, you have a nice balance to your strength training program, you have your strength training program, you have your strength training program, you have long rest periods, you follow a MAPS long rest periods, you follow a MAPS long rest periods, you follow a MAPS program, it's probably not the program, it's probably not the program, it's probably not the conversation is probably not for you. conversation is probably not for you. conversation is probably not for you. >> Next question is from Tanya Garcia. >> Next question is from Tanya Garcia. >> Next question is from Tanya Garcia. What's the best advice for an adult who What's the best advice for an adult who What's the best advice for an adult who just got diagnosed as pre-diabetic? just got diagnosed as pre-diabetic? just got diagnosed as pre-diabetic? Someone close to me just got this news. Someone close to me just got this news. Someone close to me just got this news. She's going into her late 50s and has She's going into her late 50s and has She's going into her late 50s and has arthritis. arthritis. arthritis. >> So, generally speaking, the advice looks >> So, generally speaking, the advice looks >> So, generally speaking, the advice looks like this. Um, you're gonna eat a high like this. Um, you're gonna eat a high like this. Um, you're gonna eat a high protein protein protein uh lower carbohydrate diet uh with a uh lower carbohydrate diet uh with a uh lower carbohydrate diet uh with a decent amount of fiber in it. That's decent amount of fiber in it. That's decent amount of fiber in it. That's what the diet's going to look like. So, what the diet's going to look like. So, what the diet's going to look like. So, for this person, I would have them eat for this person, I would have them eat for this person, I would have them eat uh their target body weight in grams of uh their target body weight in grams of uh their target body weight in grams of protein. That's the goal, okay? And protein. That's the goal, okay? And protein. That's the goal, okay? And you're going to eat it from whole you're going to eat it from whole you're going to eat it from whole natural foods. You're not going to eat a natural foods. You're not going to eat a natural foods. You're not going to eat a ton of carbohydrates. You can have ton of carbohydrates. You can have ton of carbohydrates. You can have carbohydrates, but you're not going to carbohydrates, but you're not going to carbohydrates, but you're not going to have a ton. Okay? So, your meal is going have a ton. Okay? So, your meal is going have a ton. Okay? So, your meal is going to look like protein, fats, a little bit to look like protein, fats, a little bit to look like protein, fats, a little bit of carbs, and some vegetables. Um, and of carbs, and some vegetables. Um, and of carbs, and some vegetables. Um, and then you're going to strength train. Uh, then you're going to strength train. Uh, then you're going to strength train. Uh, strength training, uh, is incredible for strength training, uh, is incredible for strength training, uh, is incredible for insulin sensitivity. Building muscle insulin sensitivity. Building muscle insulin sensitivity. Building muscle does miracles when it comes to working does miracles when it comes to working does miracles when it comes to working with people who are pre-diabetic. Like with people who are pre-diabetic. Like with people who are pre-diabetic. Like miracles. You build a little bit of miracles. You build a little bit of miracles. You build a little bit of muscle and you see dramatic improvement muscle and you see dramatic improvement muscle and you see dramatic improvement because muscle is one of the places you because muscle is one of the places you because muscle is one of the places you store sugar. store sugar. store sugar. >> Big gas. It's big a gas tank for you. >> Big gas. It's big a gas tank for you. >> Big gas. It's big a gas tank for you. >> It's where you store glycogen. Uh, and >> It's where you store glycogen. Uh, and >> It's where you store glycogen. Uh, and muscle is very insulin sensitive. muscle is very insulin sensitive. muscle is very insulin sensitive. >> By the way, too, this will also help >> By the way, too, this will also help >> By the way, too, this will also help support the arthritis, which is support the arthritis, which is support the arthritis, which is autoimmune. So somebody who gets like autoimmune. So somebody who gets like autoimmune. So somebody who gets like the flare-ups from autoimmune who's also the flare-ups from autoimmune who's also the flare-ups from autoimmune who's also pre-diabetic is probably a lot of times pre-diabetic is probably a lot of times pre-diabetic is probably a lot of times when they over consume calories i.e. when they over consume calories i.e. when they over consume calories i.e. sugar and stuff like that they're going sugar and stuff like that they're going sugar and stuff like that they're going to have those those flare-ups. Whereas to have those those flare-ups. Whereas to have those those flare-ups. Whereas if they have these bigger gas tanks if they have these bigger gas tanks if they have these bigger gas tanks muscle for that their body to store that muscle for that their body to store that muscle for that their body to store that glycogen they're less likely to glycogen they're less likely to glycogen they're less likely to overspill and have those overspill and have those overspill and have those >> and you don't even have to build a ton >> and you don't even have to build a ton >> and you don't even have to build a ton of muscle. You could just even the of muscle. You could just even the of muscle. You could just even the current muscle you have just becomes uh current muscle you have just becomes uh current muscle you have just becomes uh better at storing glycogen and becomes better at storing glycogen and becomes better at storing glycogen and becomes more insulin sensitive because you're more insulin sensitive because you're more insulin sensitive because you're stronger. So, I would have her strength stronger. So, I would have her strength stronger. So, I would have her strength train one to two days a week, high train one to two days a week, high train one to two days a week, high protein diet, protein diet, protein diet, >> and then uh the last thing you would add >> and then uh the last thing you would add >> and then uh the last thing you would add would be to to do five minutes of would be to to do five minutes of would be to to do five minutes of movement after she eats, that has a movement after she eats, that has a movement after she eats, that has a really good effect. And if you just did really good effect. And if you just did really good effect. And if you just did those things, generally speaking, uh I those things, generally speaking, uh I those things, generally speaking, uh I wouldn't be surprised if this person uh wouldn't be surprised if this person uh wouldn't be surprised if this person uh within 6 months saw a radical shift. within 6 months saw a radical shift. within 6 months saw a radical shift. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh in their diagnosis just from doing >> Uh in their diagnosis just from doing >> Uh in their diagnosis just from doing those things. All right. I know you like those things. All right. I know you like those things. All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one that episode. If you did, check this one that episode. If you did, check this one out. 30% body fat. For men, this is way out. 30% body fat. For men, this is way out. 30% body fat. For men, this is way too high. This is actually a bit high too high. This is actually a bit high too high. This is actually a bit high for women as well. So, in today's for women as well. So, in today's for women as well. So, in today's episode, we're talking about how you can episode, we're talking about how you can episode, we're talking about how you can go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when you have a visible This is when you have a visible This is when you have a visible six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%, six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%, six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but not if you guess yes, it's possible, but not if you guess yes, it's possible, but not if you guess along the way. So, we're going to talk along the way. So, we're going to talk along the way. So, we're going to talk about how you can do that in today's about how you can do that in today's about how you can do that in today's episode. episode. episode. >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of >> Now, there's a huge range, right, of like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little bit higher