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The Epstein hearings revealed a crucial leadership lesson: when facing a crisis, transparency beats theatrics every time. Attorney General Pam Bondi's emotionally volatile testimony—deflecting questions, attacking critics, and performing for President Trump rather than addressing victims—deepened th

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Key Takeaway

The Epstein hearings revealed a crucial leadership lesson: when facing a crisis, transparency beats theatrics every time. Attorney General Pam Bondi's emotionally volatile testimony—deflecting questions, attacking critics, and performing for President Trump rather than addressing victims—deepened the administration's credibility crisis. The takeaway: In high-stakes moments, stay grounded in facts, acknowledge mistakes quickly, and focus relentlessly on your stated mission. When you try to hide or deflect, you amplify the problem.

Episode Overview

Tom Bilyeu discusses Attorney General Pam Bondi's disastrous testimony before the House Oversight Committee regarding the Epstein files. The episode critiques how partisan theatrics are distracting from the core mission: protecting victims and mapping webs of power. Bilyeu also covers Argentina's controversial 12-hour workday legislation, arguing it's about unleashing ambition rather than slave labor. Throughout, he emphasizes the importance of staying focused on clear objectives despite political noise, and advocates for citizen pressure to ensure accountability in the Epstein investigations.

Main Insights

Define Your North Star and Stay Focused

In any complex situation—whether business or politics—you must identify your core objective (your 'north star') and relentlessly evaluate whether your actions advance that goal. For the Epstein investigation, the north star is protecting victims and holding perpetrators accountable, not winning partisan points. Without this clarity, you'll get distracted by theatrics and lose sight of what actually matters.

Emotional Reactivity Undermines Authority

Pam Bondi's outbursts during testimony made her appear emotionally reactive rather than calm and authoritative. On camera, what feels like firmness often comes across as emotional instability. Leaders must maintain composure under pressure—acknowledge mistakes quickly, stay grounded in facts, and avoid defensive posturing that amplifies problems.

The Power of Consistent Public Pressure

Politicians like Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna have pushed the Epstein investigation forward through relentless public pressure. Citizens have more power than they realize—sustained, focused attention on specific demands (like releasing all documents and pursuing indictments) can force accountability even from reluctant institutions.

Opportunity Requires Freedom to Work

Argentina's decision to legalize 12-hour workdays isn't slave labor—it's removing barriers for ambitious individuals who want to work harder to get ahead. Economic prosperity comes from unleashing the most motivated people in society, not constraining everyone to the same limitations. This was the key insight Deng Xiaoping used to lift hundreds of millions from poverty in China.

Protect the Process, Not the Powerful

International entities (Norway's former PM, Goldman Sachs executives) are already facing consequences from Epstein connections, while U.S. figures remain protected. This reveals that law enforcement too often serves the powerful rather than justice. Citizens must demand equal application of law regardless of status or political affiliation.

Notable Quotes

"We should not be afraid of the government. The government should be afraid of us."

Tom Bilyeu

"If you approach arguments by coming back to the facts—how does this stuff play out, what do we know to be true—then at a minimum, you get a little bit wiser as you move forward. You might not win the argument. That's perfectly fine. Winning the argument should never be the north star."

Tom Bilyeu

"Goals make demands. If you want to be the best at whatever you're doing, you're going to have to outwork other people."

Tom Bilyeu

"You have to know what your north star is. When you have that, now you can go, okay, wait, are the things that I'm doing actually getting me to my northstar?"

Tom Bilyeu

Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.

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    Identify Your North Star for Major Goals

    Before taking action on any important project or issue, clearly define your ultimate objective. Write it down. Then, before making decisions or reacting to events, ask: 'Does this move me toward my north star?' This prevents distraction by drama, partisan noise, or emotional reactions.

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    Apply Sustained Pressure on Issues You Care About

    Pick one or two issues that matter most to you and commit to consistent, focused attention. Follow citizen journalists and credible sources. Share information. Contact representatives with specific demands. The Epstein case shows that relentless public pressure works—but only if sustained beyond initial outrage.

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    Practice Factual Argumentation

    When debating or discussing contentious topics, discipline yourself to stay grounded in verifiable facts rather than emotional appeals or ad hominem attacks. Ask: 'What do we know to be true? What can we prove?' This approach builds wisdom even when you don't 'win' arguments.

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    Embrace Optionality Over Mandates

    Whether in work, health, or personal growth, seek systems that expand your options rather than restrict them. Argentina's law doesn't force 12-hour days—it permits them for those who choose. Apply this thinking: create flexibility in your life to work harder when motivated, while preserving the freedom to pull back when needed.

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Good morning everybody. Welcome to Good morning everybody. Welcome to another Tom Billou show live. We are another Tom Billou show live. We are another Tom Billou show live. We are going to be going through a whole lot of going to be going through a whole lot of going to be going through a whole lot of madness today. If you guys have been madness today. If you guys have been madness today. If you guys have been watching the political arena, watching the political arena, watching the political arena, it's been a lot of fun. In the last 24 it's been a lot of fun. In the last 24 it's been a lot of fun. In the last 24 hours, Attorney General Pam Bondi hours, Attorney General Pam Bondi hours, Attorney General Pam Bondi testified before a House Oversight testified before a House Oversight testified before a House Oversight Committee regarding your favorite and Committee regarding your favorite and Committee regarding your favorite and mine, Epstein. It was an absolute freak mine, Epstein. It was an absolute freak mine, Epstein. It was an absolute freak show that only deepened the Trump show that only deepened the Trump show that only deepened the Trump admin's woes around this issue. These admin's woes around this issue. These admin's woes around this issue. These guys just cannot get out of their own guys just cannot get out of their own guys just cannot get out of their own way. Russia may be considering way. Russia may be considering way. Russia may be considering rembbracing the dollar as part of a plan rembbracing the dollar as part of a plan rembbracing the dollar as part of a plan to build a stronger relationship with to build a stronger relationship with to build a stronger relationship with the US. That this one is big and I am the US. That this one is big and I am the US. That this one is big and I am very eager to talk about that uh what very eager to talk about that uh what very eager to talk about that uh what that could potentially mean. The markets that could potentially mean. The markets that could potentially mean. The markets took another massive tumble yesterday took another massive tumble yesterday took another massive tumble yesterday amid hyper uncertainty and this amid hyper uncertainty and this amid hyper uncertainty and this announcement that I'm excited about with announcement that I'm excited about with announcement that I'm excited about with Russia also probably impacted gold. Russia also probably impacted gold. Russia also probably impacted gold. The Netherlands are committed to The Netherlands are committed to The Netherlands are committed to committing economic suicide with their committing economic suicide with their committing economic suicide with their proposed new tax scheme. Uh, one that proposed new tax scheme. Uh, one that proposed new tax scheme. 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As soon as it was like, we're not going to start there, are we? not going to start there, are we? not going to start there, are we? [laughter] Oh, but I want to talk about [laughter] Oh, but I want to talk about [laughter] Oh, but I want to talk about it. A breakdown of recent AI safety it. A breakdown of recent AI safety it. A breakdown of recent AI safety problems highlights that if we do not problems highlights that if we do not problems highlights that if we do not find a way to give AI something akin to find a way to give AI something akin to find a way to give AI something akin to consciousness, we're going to be in a consciousness, we're going to be in a consciousness, we're going to be in a lot of trouble. I mean that that one's lot of trouble. I mean that that one's lot of trouble. I mean that that one's not hyperbole. Uh as we dive into that, not hyperbole. Uh as we dive into that, not hyperbole. Uh as we dive into that, I think you guys will see that I think you guys will see that I think you guys will see that mathematically it's probably the right mathematically it's probably the right mathematically it's probably the right way to think about it. You have to have way to think about it. You have to have way to think about it. You have to have a check against AI mimicking the worst a check against AI mimicking the worst a check against AI mimicking the worst of humans but not having that thing that of humans but not having that thing that of humans but not having that thing that um we all have minus the psychopaths uh um we all have minus the psychopaths uh um we all have minus the psychopaths uh which is some sort of moral conscience. which is some sort of moral conscience. which is some sort of moral conscience. So, if we don't find a way, we're we're So, if we don't find a way, we're we're So, if we don't find a way, we're we're going to be in a world of hurt. Uh, and going to be in a world of hurt. Uh, and going to be in a world of hurt. Uh, and people are losing their minds because people are losing their minds because people are losing their minds because Argentina has made a 12hour workday Argentina has made a 12hour workday Argentina has made a 12hour workday legal. I'm going to leave that one legal. I'm going to leave that one legal. I'm going to leave that one there. I want to talk about that one in there. I want to talk about that one in there. I want to talk about that one in full. All right, everybody. Welcome. Uh, full. All right, everybody. Welcome. Uh, full. All right, everybody. Welcome. Uh, it's going to be a good day. It's it's going to be a good day. It's it's going to be a good day. It's Friday. It's Friday the 13th. Friday. It's Friday the 13th. Friday. It's Friday the 13th. >> Uh, really quick, um, our audience is >> Uh, really quick, um, our audience is >> Uh, really quick, um, our audience is largely men, so if anybody forgot, largely men, so if anybody forgot, largely men, so if anybody forgot, tomorrow is Valentine's Day. tomorrow is Valentine's Day. tomorrow is Valentine's Day. >> Um, so please make sure you make up >> Um, so please make sure you make up >> Um, so please make sure you make up something if you can't get a something if you can't get a something if you can't get a reservation. So, I don't want anybody to reservation. So, I don't want anybody to reservation. So, I don't want anybody to be on the couch this weekend. Um, I got be on the couch this weekend. Um, I got be on the couch this weekend. Um, I got you fellas. you fellas. you fellas. >> Um, Amazon does next day delivery. Just >> Um, Amazon does next day delivery. Just >> Um, Amazon does next day delivery. Just make sure you don't give her the Amazon make sure you don't give her the Amazon make sure you don't give her the Amazon box. You put it in something else. Just box. You put it in something else. Just box. You put it in something else. Just [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> that's free game for the day. All right. >> that's free game for the day. All right. >> that's free game for the day. All right. Um, Um, Um, >> that is very generous of you. >> that is very generous of you. >> that is very generous of you. >> Yeah. And then if she does get mad, just >> Yeah. And then if she does get mad, just >> Yeah. And then if she does get mad, just tell her, "Hey babe, the Dow's over tell her, "Hey babe, the Dow's over tell her, "Hey babe, the Dow's over 50,000." So, 50,000." So, 50,000." So, >> because it works so well for Pam Bondi. >> because it works so well for Pam Bondi. >> because it works so well for Pam Bondi. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> How did you feel about that? >> How did you feel about that? >> How did you feel about that? >> He gives good advice and then follows it >> He gives good advice and then follows it >> He gives good advice and then follows it with horrific advice. Everybody, with horrific advice. Everybody, with horrific advice. Everybody, [laughter] there it is. They can't all [laughter] there it is. They can't all [laughter] there it is. They can't all be Golden Drew. be Golden Drew. be Golden Drew. >> Yeah. Uh yeah, what was your initial >> Yeah. Uh yeah, what was your initial >> Yeah. Uh yeah, what was your initial thoughts? We we tried to muster through thoughts? We we tried to muster through thoughts? We we tried to muster through the whole five hours. It was the whole five hours. It was the whole five hours. It was interesting, but like what do you think? interesting, but like what do you think? interesting, but like what do you think? Like your initial gut reaction that just Like your initial gut reaction that just Like your initial gut reaction that just watching that? watching that? watching that? >> My initial gut reaction is that politics >> My initial gut reaction is that politics >> My initial gut reaction is that politics are a joke. Uh and that attorney general are a joke. Uh and that attorney general are a joke. Uh and that attorney general Pam Bondi's appearance before the House Pam Bondi's appearance before the House Pam Bondi's appearance before the House Judiciary Committee was an absolute Judiciary Committee was an absolute Judiciary Committee was an absolute freak show. It only dug the Epstein hole freak show. It only dug the Epstein hole freak show. It only dug the Epstein hole deeper for the Trump admin. I do not deeper for the Trump admin. I do not deeper for the Trump admin. I do not know what they're thinking trying to know what they're thinking trying to know what they're thinking trying to apply this always attack strategy on apply this always attack strategy on apply this always attack strategy on this issue. It's crazy. Now, obviously, this issue. It's crazy. Now, obviously, this issue. It's crazy. Now, obviously, these hearings are always terrible. They these hearings are always terrible. They these hearings are always terrible. They are full of political theatrics. It's are full of political theatrics. It's are full of political theatrics. It's all designed to create social media all designed to create social media all designed to create social media clips, but the Trump admin just cannot clips, but the Trump admin just cannot clips, but the Trump admin just cannot stop stepping on its own dick when it stop stepping on its own dick when it stop stepping on its own dick when it comes to Epstein. This is It's so comes to Epstein. This is It's so comes to Epstein. This is It's so stupid. I don't know what they're stupid. I don't know what they're stupid. I don't know what they're thinking. You guys said this was like thinking. You guys said this was like thinking. You guys said this was like the thing. Elect us, transparency, we the thing. Elect us, transparency, we the thing. Elect us, transparency, we got you. Nothing to hide. Just get us in got you. Nothing to hide. Just get us in got you. Nothing to hide. Just get us in office and you know, we're going to take office and you know, we're going to take office and you know, we're going to take care of this. And they have done care of this. And they have done care of this. And they have done anything but. Uh they they are acting anything but. Uh they they are acting anything but. Uh they they are acting like they have something to hide. And like they have something to hide. And like they have something to hide. And everyone at this point, if you don't everyone at this point, if you don't everyone at this point, if you don't just assume anybody running a smoke just assume anybody running a smoke just assume anybody running a smoke screen is hiding something, you have not screen is hiding something, you have not screen is hiding something, you have not been paying attention. So, dude, we we been paying attention. So, dude, we we been paying attention. So, dude, we we are in a situation where you have to let are in a situation where you have to let are in a situation where you have to let the chips fall where they may, and they the chips fall where they may, and they the chips fall where they may, and they may just feel like they can't. And so, may just feel like they can't. And so, may just feel like they can't. And so, we're in this ridiculous situation where we're in this ridiculous situation where we're in this ridiculous situation where Bondi is sitting down in front of Bondi is sitting down in front of Bondi is sitting down in front of Epstein survivors. They're literally Epstein survivors. They're literally Epstein survivors. They're literally directly behind her wearing matching directly behind her wearing matching directly behind her wearing matching white shirts. She has a chance to so white shirts. She has a chance to so white shirts. She has a chance to so show some humanity. Does she show any? show some humanity. Does she show any? show some humanity. Does she show any? Absolutely not. Literally the opposite. Absolutely not. Literally the opposite. Absolutely not. Literally the opposite. Now, the victims were there because the Now, the victims were there because the Now, the victims were there because the DOJ, under Pam Bondi's watch, released DOJ, under Pam Bondi's watch, released DOJ, under Pam Bondi's watch, released over three million pages of Epstein over three million pages of Epstein over three million pages of Epstein documents, which is only half of the documents, which is only half of the documents, which is only half of the total files. Let's not lose that. And in total files. Let's not lose that. And in total files. Let's not lose that. And in some cases, they managed to reveal some cases, they managed to reveal some cases, they managed to reveal victims while redacting potential victims while redacting potential victims while redacting potential perpetrators. Wild. And I get it, perpetrators. Wild. And I get it, perpetrators. Wild. And I get it, there's 6 million documents. They're there's 6 million documents. They're there's 6 million documents. They're under massive time pressure to turn it under massive time pressure to turn it under massive time pressure to turn it all around. But this is one of those all around. But this is one of those all around. But this is one of those times where you have to take your lumps times where you have to take your lumps times where you have to take your lumps and you just have to say, "We got that and you just have to say, "We got that and you just have to say, "We got that wrong. That was terrible. um we should wrong. That was terrible. um we should wrong. That was terrible. um we should have done XYZ. If you don't, you make it have done XYZ. If you don't, you make it have done XYZ. If you don't, you make it a bigger deal. That's the part where I a bigger deal. That's the part where I a bigger deal. That's the part where I just cannot figure out how they're just cannot figure out how they're just cannot figure out how they're misreading the situation this poorly. misreading the situation this poorly. misreading the situation this poorly. Now, yes, it's all partisan theatrics, Now, yes, it's all partisan theatrics, Now, yes, it's all partisan theatrics, but the way that Bondie came across was but the way that Bondie came across was but the way that Bondie came across was not as a calm and collected attorney not as a calm and collected attorney not as a calm and collected attorney that has the pedigree that she has. that has the pedigree that she has. that has the pedigree that she has. Like, if you read about her on paper, Like, if you read about her on paper, Like, if you read about her on paper, her pedigree is impeccable. It's her pedigree is impeccable. It's her pedigree is impeccable. It's fantastic. But instead of coming across fantastic. But instead of coming across fantastic. But instead of coming across like somebody who's earned that like somebody who's earned that like somebody who's earned that pedigree, she came across as emotionally pedigree, she came across as emotionally pedigree, she came across as emotionally volatile. She came across as a hostile volatile. She came across as a hostile volatile. She came across as a hostile witness who was obviously dodging witness who was obviously dodging witness who was obviously dodging questions. [cough] questions. [cough] questions. [cough] I'm choking myself up. I'm choking myself up. I'm choking myself up. Dodging questions literally at every Dodging questions literally at every Dodging questions literally at every turn. It was wild. And as many people turn. It was wild. And as many people turn. It was wild. And as many people have noted, if you want to understand have noted, if you want to understand have noted, if you want to understand why she was acting the way that she was why she was acting the way that she was why she was acting the way that she was acting, it was like she was performing acting, it was like she was performing acting, it was like she was performing for an audience of one for President for an audience of one for President for an audience of one for President Trump. Like all of that through his Trump. Like all of that through his Trump. Like all of that through his eyes. Yeah, like seal clap. Love it. eyes. Yeah, like seal clap. Love it. eyes. Yeah, like seal clap. Love it. This is great. But for everybody else, This is great. But for everybody else, This is great. But for everybody else, it was ridiculous. We've got some clips. it was ridiculous. We've got some clips. it was ridiculous. We've got some clips. So, you guys tell us what you think. So, you guys tell us what you think. So, you guys tell us what you think. This is nasty. This is nasty. This is nasty. >> Accus me of a crime. >> Accus me of a crime. >> Accus me of a crime. >> I believe you just lied under oath and >> I believe you just lied under oath and >> I believe you just lied under oath and this is all on videotape. You said this is all on videotape. You said this is all on videotape. You said there's no evidence of a crime. I'm there's no evidence of a crime. I'm there's no evidence of a crime. I'm showing you here is showing you here is showing you here is >> a witness statement who called into the >> a witness statement who called into the >> a witness statement who called into the FBI's threat operations center. He drove FBI's threat operations center. He drove FBI's threat operations center. He drove Donald Trump around in a limo. He Donald Trump around in a limo. He Donald Trump around in a limo. He overheard what Donald Trump said to overheard what Donald Trump said to overheard what Donald Trump said to Jeffrey on his cell phone. He was so Jeffrey on his cell phone. He was so Jeffrey on his cell phone. He was so angry he was going to stop a limo and angry he was going to stop a limo and angry he was going to stop a limo and hurt Donald Trump. And he met a girl who hurt Donald Trump. And he met a girl who hurt Donald Trump. And he met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and said she was raped by Donald Trump and said she was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein. She later had her head blown off and She later had her head blown off and She later had her head blown off and officers at the scene said that could officers at the scene said that could officers at the scene said that could not have been suicide. not have been suicide. not have been suicide. >> So this is um we miss a little bit of >> So this is um we miss a little bit of >> So this is um we miss a little bit of that clip where she has her sort of that clip where she has her sort of that clip where she has her sort of initial outburst where she's like uh initial outburst where she's like uh initial outburst where she's like uh don't you dare accuse me of committing a don't you dare accuse me of committing a don't you dare accuse me of committing a crime. It's like, okay, slow down, crime. It's like, okay, slow down, crime. It's like, okay, slow down, people. Uh, I guess this is a good people. Uh, I guess this is a good people. Uh, I guess this is a good reminder for me on camera. reminder for me on camera. reminder for me on camera. You don't come across as firm, you come You don't come across as firm, you come You don't come across as firm, you come across as emotionally reactive. And so, across as emotionally reactive. And so, across as emotionally reactive. And so, it's never a good look. And it's never a good look. And it's never a good look. And the the the underlying all of the Jeff Jeffrey underlying all of the Jeff Jeffrey underlying all of the Jeff Jeffrey Epstein stuff is this heartbeat of like Epstein stuff is this heartbeat of like Epstein stuff is this heartbeat of like the world that we thought we knew may the world that we thought we knew may the world that we thought we knew may not be the world that we know. It may be not be the world that we know. It may be not be the world that we know. It may be that we are being run influenced that we are being run influenced that we are being run influenced whatever by the most horrifying cabal of whatever by the most horrifying cabal of whatever by the most horrifying cabal of um demonic people. I mean, I don't think um demonic people. I mean, I don't think um demonic people. I mean, I don't think they're actual demons as part of my they're actual demons as part of my they're actual demons as part of my whole thing is to get people to whole thing is to get people to whole thing is to get people to understand these are just people doing understand these are just people doing understand these are just people doing horrific things, but horrific things, but horrific things, but we we have to get to the bottom of that. we we have to get to the bottom of that. we we have to get to the bottom of that. And so, all of the theatrics end up And so, all of the theatrics end up And so, all of the theatrics end up being this obfuscation layer of that. being this obfuscation layer of that. being this obfuscation layer of that. And that's the part of all this that And that's the part of all this that And that's the part of all this that drove me the most crazy was drove me the most crazy was drove me the most crazy was if you're going to present your official if you're going to present your official if you're going to present your official stance of what this moment is as an stance of what this moment is as an stance of what this moment is as an administration, it's got to be that administration, it's got to be that administration, it's got to be that we're going to get to the bottom of this we're going to get to the bottom of this we're going to get to the bottom of this because people aren't letting this one because people aren't letting this one because people aren't letting this one go. Uh, and that was anything but. All go. Uh, and that was anything but. All go. Uh, and that was anything but. All right, back to the clip. right, back to the clip. right, back to the clip. >> There's another one. Let's jump over to >> There's another one. Let's jump over to >> There's another one. Let's jump over to the messy clip. the messy clip. the messy clip. >> Respond and then the gentleman can move >> Respond and then the gentleman can move >> Respond and then the gentleman can move to the next question. It's my job. to the next question. It's my job. to the next question. It's my job. >> Within 40 minutes, you asked me a >> Within 40 minutes, you asked me a >> Within 40 minutes, you asked me a question. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's question. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's question. Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back name was added back name was added back >> within 40 minutes of me catching you >> within 40 minutes of me catching you >> within 40 minutes of me catching you redhanded. redhanded. redhanded. >> Red hand. [laughter] There was one >> Red hand. [laughter] There was one >> Red hand. [laughter] There was one redaction where he's listed as a coke redaction where he's listed as a coke redaction where he's listed as a coke and we invited you inentle. We This guy and we invited you inentle. We This guy and we invited you inentle. We This guy has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs has Trump derangement syndrome. He needs to get You're a failed politician. to get You're a failed politician. to get You're a failed politician. Okay. So, if you look at this through Okay. So, if you look at this through Okay. So, if you look at this through the lens of where are we at in the world the lens of where are we at in the world the lens of where are we at in the world of politics, we are sliding towards this of politics, we are sliding towards this of politics, we are sliding towards this um um um It it's ad homonym attacks. Listen, It it's ad homonym attacks. Listen, It it's ad homonym attacks. Listen, we've been here for a long time. I get we've been here for a long time. I get we've been here for a long time. I get that. But it's like this this is the that. But it's like this this is the that. But it's like this this is the attorney general. This is not like attorney general. This is not like attorney general. This is not like another member of Congress who I long another member of Congress who I long another member of Congress who I long ago gave up on them having any decorum. ago gave up on them having any decorum. ago gave up on them having any decorum. But yeah, when you're getting into a But yeah, when you're getting into a But yeah, when you're getting into a pissing contest, name calling contest pissing contest, name calling contest pissing contest, name calling contest with the attorney general of the United with the attorney general of the United with the attorney general of the United States. E Gads, States. E Gads, States. E Gads, >> we used to riot over the price of tea. >> we used to riot over the price of tea. >> we used to riot over the price of tea. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay. So, one here >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay. So, one here >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay. So, one here the to really do an investigation on the to really do an investigation on the to really do an investigation on that would be utterly fascinating that would be utterly fascinating that would be utterly fascinating because because because I it is entirely possible that I'm just I it is entirely possible that I'm just I it is entirely possible that I'm just being naive. But the whole idea of um being naive. But the whole idea of um being naive. But the whole idea of um valor, integrity, valor, integrity, valor, integrity, um honor that like you have a sense of um honor that like you have a sense of um honor that like you have a sense of what is right and then you don't you what is right and then you don't you what is right and then you don't you don't violate that. And at times there's don't violate that. And at times there's don't violate that. And at times there's going to be tremendous personal cost. going to be tremendous personal cost. going to be tremendous personal cost. But we as a society said, well, there's But we as a society said, well, there's But we as a society said, well, there's a bigger cost for not being an honorable a bigger cost for not being an honorable a bigger cost for not being an honorable person. And given that everything really person. And given that everything really person. And given that everything really is downstream of culture, is downstream of culture, is downstream of culture, you know, only polyiana words will spill you know, only polyiana words will spill you know, only polyiana words will spill out of my mouth as I try to say that out of my mouth as I try to say that out of my mouth as I try to say that we've got to nudge back to that. But I we've got to nudge back to that. But I we've got to nudge back to that. But I don't see a way around that. Like if we don't see a way around that. Like if we don't see a way around that. Like if we look at what's happening here and we go, look at what's happening here and we go, look at what's happening here and we go, "Yeah, this is fine." As long as my team "Yeah, this is fine." As long as my team "Yeah, this is fine." As long as my team is dunking on the other side, like I'm is dunking on the other side, like I'm is dunking on the other side, like I'm perfectly happy to see it. If that's the perfectly happy to see it. If that's the perfectly happy to see it. If that's the attitude, we we are doomed. it it will attitude, we we are doomed. it it will attitude, we we are doomed. it it will just keep going until you it becomes just keep going until you it becomes just keep going until you it becomes unsustainable that like I don't know if unsustainable that like I don't know if unsustainable that like I don't know if you saw the footage of the woman there you saw the footage of the woman there you saw the footage of the woman there was a woman uh burning down a warehouse was a woman uh burning down a warehouse was a woman uh burning down a warehouse that she thought was going to be that she thought was going to be that she thought was going to be purchased um by ICE and be like a purchased um by ICE and be like a purchased um by ICE and be like a storage facility for ice or something. storage facility for ice or something. storage facility for ice or something. She is standing in full view of a camera She is standing in full view of a camera She is standing in full view of a camera with lighter fluid. You you look at your with lighter fluid. You you look at your with lighter fluid. You you look at your screens uh spraying lighter fluid in screens uh spraying lighter fluid in screens uh spraying lighter fluid in broad daylight to burn it down. This is broad daylight to burn it down. This is broad daylight to burn it down. This is somebody who believes that this is the somebody who believes that this is the somebody who believes that this is the right answer. Now, keep in mind the right answer. Now, keep in mind the right answer. Now, keep in mind the building that deal fell through. That building that deal fell through. That building that deal fell through. That building wasn't purchased by ICE. So, building wasn't purchased by ICE. So, building wasn't purchased by ICE. So, she's burning it down. Literally she's burning it down. Literally she's burning it down. Literally torching her life. She's going to go to torching her life. She's going to go to torching her life. She's going to go to prison for this. So, she's torching her prison for this. So, she's torching her prison for this. So, she's torching her life for nothing off of vibes and I life for nothing off of vibes and I life for nothing off of vibes and I don't know, wanting to look cool. I don't know, wanting to look cool. I don't know, wanting to look cool. I don't know. Like this is one of those don't know. Like this is one of those don't know. Like this is one of those where people get an idea in their head where people get an idea in their head where people get an idea in their head that is unmed from reality where they that is unmed from reality where they that is unmed from reality where they want to be one of the good guys. They want to be one of the good guys. They want to be one of the good guys. They want to be on the right side of history. want to be on the right side of history. want to be on the right side of history. They want to be the one that kept Anne They want to be the one that kept Anne They want to be the one that kept Anne Frank in their attict but they're not Frank in their attict but they're not Frank in their attict but they're not able to accurately assess where we are. able to accurately assess where we are. able to accurately assess where we are. So the founders of this country So the founders of this country So the founders of this country understood the actual moment that they understood the actual moment that they understood the actual moment that they were in. They actually gave birth to the were in. They actually gave birth to the were in. They actually gave birth to the country. they they actually gave birth country. they they actually gave birth country. they they actually gave birth not just to a country but to the country not just to a country but to the country not just to a country but to the country that would go on to dominate for I mean that would go on to dominate for I mean that would go on to dominate for I mean we're 250 years uh roughly at this we're 250 years uh roughly at this we're 250 years uh roughly at this point. So, it's like they really read point. So, it's like they really read point. So, it's like they really read the moment, right? And we have people the moment, right? And we have people the moment, right? And we have people now laring as that, but with just now laring as that, but with just now laring as that, but with just totally disconnected from uh the totally disconnected from uh the totally disconnected from uh the anchoring values that would help you anchoring values that would help you anchoring values that would help you make some of this make sense without any make some of this make sense without any make some of this make sense without any understanding of what is actually understanding of what is actually understanding of what is actually happening, the the ground facts, right? happening, the the ground facts, right? happening, the the ground facts, right? When you're burning down a building that When you're burning down a building that When you're burning down a building that the sale didn't go through, like it's so the sale didn't go through, like it's so the sale didn't go through, like it's so outrageous. And so bringing it back to outrageous. And so bringing it back to outrageous. And so bringing it back to Pam Bondi, it's like this this will just Pam Bondi, it's like this this will just Pam Bondi, it's like this this will just continue to devolve when we um step back continue to devolve when we um step back continue to devolve when we um step back and we accept it, when we just go, well, and we accept it, when we just go, well, and we accept it, when we just go, well, I got the clip I needed and so all is I got the clip I needed and so all is I got the clip I needed and so all is well. These congressional hearings have well. These congressional hearings have well. These congressional hearings have become become become it's just theatrics. And it drives me it's just theatrics. And it drives me it's just theatrics. And it drives me crazy. It's theatrics on both sides. crazy. It's theatrics on both sides. crazy. It's theatrics on both sides. Like flip it and now put a Republican um Like flip it and now put a Republican um Like flip it and now put a Republican um crew asking the hard questions and a crew asking the hard questions and a crew asking the hard questions and a Democrat being pressed on something Democrat being pressed on something Democrat being pressed on something uncomfortable. It's going to look uncomfortable. It's going to look uncomfortable. It's going to look exactly the same. You're going to get exactly the same. You're going to get exactly the same. You're going to get the Democrat that's deflecting, that's the Democrat that's deflecting, that's the Democrat that's deflecting, that's dodging, uh, and you're going to get the dodging, uh, and you're going to get the dodging, uh, and you're going to get the grandstanding on the Republican side. grandstanding on the Republican side. grandstanding on the Republican side. So, it's like Jesus, man. The the level So, it's like Jesus, man. The the level So, it's like Jesus, man. The the level of dysfunction. The problem is when I of dysfunction. The problem is when I of dysfunction. The problem is when I look at how humans behave at the level look at how humans behave at the level look at how humans behave at the level of culture, of culture, of culture, you have to have sufficient pain to get you have to have sufficient pain to get you have to have sufficient pain to get people moving in the opposite direction. people moving in the opposite direction. people moving in the opposite direction. And that doesn't sound fun. But that And that doesn't sound fun. But that And that doesn't sound fun. But that seems like the only thing that awaits us seems like the only thing that awaits us seems like the only thing that awaits us when to me this is escalatory. Now, when to me this is escalatory. Now, when to me this is escalatory. Now, admittedly, I just started paying admittedly, I just started paying admittedly, I just started paying attention to politics, call it 3 years attention to politics, call it 3 years attention to politics, call it 3 years ago. Um, so maybe this is same as it ago. Um, so maybe this is same as it ago. Um, so maybe this is same as it ever was, but this feels like an ever was, but this feels like an ever was, but this feels like an escalation to me. escalation to me. escalation to me. >> Um, yeah, and this makes me think of >> Um, yeah, and this makes me think of >> Um, yeah, and this makes me think of what uh Nancy May said to um Piers what uh Nancy May said to um Piers what uh Nancy May said to um Piers Morgan when she appeared on the show Morgan when she appeared on the show Morgan when she appeared on the show yesterday. yesterday. yesterday. >> The names that I have seen that came >> The names that I have seen that came >> The names that I have seen that came across the DOJ in emails that the DOJ is across the DOJ in emails that the DOJ is across the DOJ in emails that the DOJ is protecting. And we're talking about protecting. And we're talking about protecting. And we're talking about people on both sides of the aisle. We're people on both sides of the aisle. We're people on both sides of the aisle. We're talking about famous people, rich talking about famous people, rich talking about famous people, rich people, uh people in power, prime people, uh people in power, prime people, uh people in power, prime ministers, former prime ministers, ministers, former prime ministers, ministers, former prime ministers, former presidents, etc. Media former presidents, etc. Media former presidents, etc. Media personalities that are named in these personalities that are named in these personalities that are named in these files. And files. And files. And >> this is crazy that we can just blow past >> this is crazy that we can just blow past >> this is crazy that we can just blow past that that that >> of like how many people are in the >> of like how many people are in the >> of like how many people are in the Epstein files. Now, over time, we are Epstein files. Now, over time, we are Epstein files. Now, over time, we are really going to have to start teasing really going to have to start teasing really going to have to start teasing out the difference between being out the difference between being out the difference between being mentioned in the Epstein files and mentioned in the Epstein files and mentioned in the Epstein files and actually doing a bad thing. Um, however, actually doing a bad thing. Um, however, actually doing a bad thing. Um, however, the whole idea that there is this web of the whole idea that there is this web of the whole idea that there is this web of people that are far more interconnected people that are far more interconnected people that are far more interconnected than we realize, that's the important than we realize, that's the important than we realize, that's the important thing that I really want people to take thing that I really want people to take thing that I really want people to take away is uh James Runner was right. away is uh James Runner was right. away is uh James Runner was right. There's always the iron law of There's always the iron law of There's always the iron law of oligarchy. There's always going to be oligarchy. There's always going to be oligarchy. There's always going to be this small group of people. this small group of people. this small group of people. >> The very thing that we need to be >> The very thing that we need to be >> The very thing that we need to be focused on is how do we hold these focused on is how do we hold these focused on is how do we hold these people accountable? We've got this people accountable? We've got this people accountable? We've got this moment right now where um we have an moment right now where um we have an moment right now where um we have an opportunity where the public is entirely opportunity where the public is entirely opportunity where the public is entirely on the side of we've got to get to the on the side of we've got to get to the on the side of we've got to get to the truth. People across the aisle, but truth. People across the aisle, but truth. People across the aisle, but we're going to let this moment slip we're going to let this moment slip we're going to let this moment slip between our fingers because people are between our fingers because people are between our fingers because people are getting caught up in the partisan getting caught up in the partisan getting caught up in the partisan freakery of it all. They're letting it freakery of it all. They're letting it freakery of it all. They're letting it be this theatrical thing. They are not be this theatrical thing. They are not be this theatrical thing. They are not saying, "Okay, hold on. All that matters saying, "Okay, hold on. All that matters saying, "Okay, hold on. All that matters right now is that we protect the most right now is that we protect the most right now is that we protect the most vulnerable among us. we get to the vulnerable among us. we get to the vulnerable among us. we get to the bottom of everything that's going on and bottom of everything that's going on and bottom of everything that's going on and we see this thing across the finish line we see this thing across the finish line we see this thing across the finish line together. And if we let this moment slip together. And if we let this moment slip together. And if we let this moment slip through our fingers, we will end up in a through our fingers, we will end up in a through our fingers, we will end up in a position where either this whole idea of position where either this whole idea of position where either this whole idea of the way that these cabals work is just the way that these cabals work is just the way that these cabals work is just going to go back underground and we're going to go back underground and we're going to go back underground and we're going to go asleep until years build up going to go asleep until years build up going to go asleep until years build up another um crisis that is as big as this another um crisis that is as big as this another um crisis that is as big as this one, but it will have gobbled up god one, but it will have gobbled up god one, but it will have gobbled up god knows how many um victims in the knows how many um victims in the knows how many um victims in the process. And that's the thing that I'm process. And that's the thing that I'm process. And that's the thing that I'm worried about as I look at this even worried about as I look at this even worried about as I look at this even now. Like I want to regground us even now. Like I want to regground us even now. Like I want to regground us even now. What just happened with Pam Bondi now. What just happened with Pam Bondi now. What just happened with Pam Bondi is horrible and it's interesting and is horrible and it's interesting and is horrible and it's interesting and it's certainly going to get people to it's certainly going to get people to it's certainly going to get people to look and of course um we open with it look and of course um we open with it look and of course um we open with it because we know people are interested in because we know people are interested in because we know people are interested in this. But the thing to regground on is this. But the thing to regground on is this. But the thing to regground on is okay right now in your fingers you have okay right now in your fingers you have okay right now in your fingers you have the opportunity to continue to press as the opportunity to continue to press as the opportunity to continue to press as the populace to say we need to get to the populace to say we need to get to the populace to say we need to get to the bottom of this. We've got 3 the bottom of this. We've got 3 the bottom of this. We've got 3 millionish more files to go. Uh, I want millionish more files to go. Uh, I want millionish more files to go. Uh, I want to see all of those out. We've got to to see all of those out. We've got to to see all of those out. We've got to make sure that prosecutions actually make sure that prosecutions actually make sure that prosecutions actually happen, that people go through the court happen, that people go through the court happen, that people go through the court system, that we find out what's real, system, that we find out what's real, system, that we find out what's real, what's not. And honestly, I I don't know what's not. And honestly, I I don't know what's not. And honestly, I I don't know what the law is around this, but let's what the law is around this, but let's what the law is around this, but let's talk about um statute of limitations. talk about um statute of limitations. talk about um statute of limitations. Let's say that we know that we there's Let's say that we know that we there's Let's say that we know that we there's not going to be convictions because this not going to be convictions because this not going to be convictions because this stuff is beyond the statute of stuff is beyond the statute of stuff is beyond the statute of limitations. I still believe that you limitations. I still believe that you limitations. I still believe that you need to go through and map out exactly need to go through and map out exactly need to go through and map out exactly what happened so that we can have it in what happened so that we can have it in what happened so that we can have it in full view of the public to understand full view of the public to understand full view of the public to understand what was going on behind the scenes what was going on behind the scenes what was going on behind the scenes because man like the age of social media because man like the age of social media because man like the age of social media the age of AI dropping six million the age of AI dropping six million the age of AI dropping six million documents on people doesn't obuscate it documents on people doesn't obuscate it documents on people doesn't obuscate it to the point where it goes away. It to the point where it goes away. It to the point where it goes away. It you've got enough citizen journalists you've got enough citizen journalists you've got enough citizen journalists they will go through this AI will be they will go through this AI will be they will go through this AI will be used people will find out what these used people will find out what these used people will find out what these webs are. They are mapappable. We live webs are. They are mapappable. We live webs are. They are mapappable. We live in a totally different time. We are in a totally different time. We are in a totally different time. We are going to be able to assimilate this going to be able to assimilate this going to be able to assimilate this information. But we have to have the information. But we have to have the information. But we have to have the will to do it. And if we don't have the will to do it. And if we don't have the will to do it. And if we don't have the will to see this through. If we get lost will to see this through. If we get lost will to see this through. If we get lost in the partisan hackery, then the in the partisan hackery, then the in the partisan hackery, then the opportunity goes away. And then the opportunity goes away. And then the opportunity goes away. And then the people in power go, "Oh yeah, this people in power go, "Oh yeah, this people in power go, "Oh yeah, this really is how it works." Just hit them really is how it works." Just hit them really is how it works." Just hit them with enough information, get enough with enough information, get enough with enough information, get enough fighting, enough arguing going that they fighting, enough arguing going that they fighting, enough arguing going that they lose sight of the real thing. This is lose sight of the real thing. This is lose sight of the real thing. This is why I teach this to entrepreneurs all why I teach this to entrepreneurs all why I teach this to entrepreneurs all the time. You have to know what your the time. You have to know what your the time. You have to know what your north star is. What is your north star? north star is. What is your north star? north star is. What is your north star? When you have that, now you can go, When you have that, now you can go, When you have that, now you can go, okay, wait, are the things that I'm okay, wait, are the things that I'm okay, wait, are the things that I'm doing, are they actually getting me to doing, are they actually getting me to doing, are they actually getting me to my northstar? Now, the northstar my northstar? Now, the northstar my northstar? Now, the northstar sometimes will be local. So, you guys sometimes will be local. So, you guys sometimes will be local. So, you guys know my over overall northstar for know my over overall northstar for know my over overall northstar for getting involved in economics and getting involved in economics and getting involved in economics and politics to make sure we have a thriving politics to make sure we have a thriving politics to make sure we have a thriving middle class. Cool. Now, as we look at middle class. Cool. Now, as we look at middle class. Cool. Now, as we look at this and we get a local northstar this and we get a local northstar this and we get a local northstar around, okay, this has got to be to map around, okay, this has got to be to map around, okay, this has got to be to map the web of how power works to hold to the web of how power works to hold to the web of how power works to hold to account those who have been abusing account those who have been abusing account those who have been abusing children, those who have been abusing children, those who have been abusing children, those who have been abusing the system, those who have been secretly the system, those who have been secretly the system, those who have been secretly behind the scenes working to subvert behind the scenes working to subvert behind the scenes working to subvert democracy. That's the northstar. Okay, democracy. That's the northstar. Okay, democracy. That's the northstar. Okay, so plenty to talk about with Pam Bondi, so plenty to talk about with Pam Bondi, so plenty to talk about with Pam Bondi, but if we get sucked into anything other but if we get sucked into anything other but if we get sucked into anything other than Pami has one job, that job is to than Pami has one job, that job is to than Pami has one job, that job is to run law enforcement. Where is that duty run law enforcement. Where is that duty run law enforcement. Where is that duty being dropped? Focus on that. Get into being dropped? Focus on that. Get into being dropped? Focus on that. Get into that. You document that. You push that that. You document that. You push that that. You document that. You push that forward. You say, "Okay, listen. Here's forward. You say, "Okay, listen. Here's forward. You say, "Okay, listen. Here's what's going on internationally." We see what's going on internationally." We see what's going on internationally." We see people like the former prime minister of people like the former prime minister of people like the former prime minister of um Norway has been indicted. Now, maybe um Norway has been indicted. Now, maybe um Norway has been indicted. Now, maybe it it it >> script of his royalty >> script of his royalty >> script of his royalty um title as well. Like monarchs are um title as well. Like monarchs are um title as well. Like monarchs are losing their titles, too. So, losing their titles, too. So, losing their titles, too. So, >> yes. >> yes. >> yes. >> So, well said. So all there are >> So, well said. So all there are >> So, well said. So all there are consequences that we're seeing consequences that we're seeing consequences that we're seeing internationally that we're not seeing internationally that we're not seeing internationally that we're not seeing here in the US and I think that the here in the US and I think that the here in the US and I think that the wrong read of that and we haven't gone wrong read of that and we haven't gone wrong read of that and we haven't gone through everything so I could be wrong through everything so I could be wrong through everything so I could be wrong of course but I think the wrong read of of course but I think the wrong read of of course but I think the wrong read of that would be to say well there just that would be to say well there just that would be to say well there just wasn't really anything on that scale wasn't really anything on that scale wasn't really anything on that scale happening here in the US. I think there happening here in the US. I think there happening here in the US. I think there is and I think that the power structures is and I think that the power structures is and I think that the power structures are the thing that are allowing like are the thing that are allowing like are the thing that are allowing like enough obfuscation enough like drama and enough obfuscation enough like drama and enough obfuscation enough like drama and theatrics to distract us from okay cool theatrics to distract us from okay cool theatrics to distract us from okay cool like how should this work? um what are like how should this work? um what are like how should this work? um what are the crimes that meet a threshold where the crimes that meet a threshold where the crimes that meet a threshold where we're going to pursue them? Uh one of we're going to pursue them? Uh one of we're going to pursue them? Uh one of the best lines of questioning that I the best lines of questioning that I the best lines of questioning that I heard was how many people have you begun heard was how many people have you begun heard was how many people have you begun to investigate? That's what I want to to investigate? That's what I want to to investigate? That's what I want to know. Where where are the indictments? know. Where where are the indictments? know. Where where are the indictments? Who's being investigated? Like how are Who's being investigated? Like how are Who's being investigated? Like how are we going to see this through to we going to see this through to we going to see this through to conclusion? And I get it. The problem conclusion? And I get it. The problem conclusion? And I get it. The problem that we are up against is the very that we are up against is the very that we are up against is the very people that we're asking to do this are people that we're asking to do this are people that we're asking to do this are the people that are tied or are directly the people that are tied or are directly the people that are tied or are directly themselves the people with the problem themselves the people with the problem themselves the people with the problem that's going to be found out. But that's that's going to be found out. But that's that's going to be found out. But that's why I will remind all of us. We should why I will remind all of us. We should why I will remind all of us. We should not be afraid of the government. The not be afraid of the government. The not be afraid of the government. The government should be afraid of us. government should be afraid of us. government should be afraid of us. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Now, if we apply enough consistent >> Now, if we apply enough consistent >> Now, if we apply enough consistent pressure that this is what we need to pressure that this is what we need to pressure that this is what we need to see and we do not get distracted by the see and we do not get distracted by the see and we do not get distracted by the theatrics, then we can actually get this theatrics, then we can actually get this theatrics, then we can actually get this thing across the finish line. Look how thing across the finish line. Look how thing across the finish line. Look how far Massiey's gotten us already. So, far Massiey's gotten us already. So, far Massiey's gotten us already. So, it's And uh Roana. I have beef with it's And uh Roana. I have beef with it's And uh Roana. I have beef with Roana on some economic stuff, but shout Roana on some economic stuff, but shout Roana on some economic stuff, but shout out like those two really have just push out like those two really have just push out like those two really have just push this thing, push this thing, push this this thing, push this thing, push this this thing, push this thing, push this thing forward. So, um my whole takeaway, thing forward. So, um my whole takeaway, thing forward. So, um my whole takeaway, and Drew and I were talking about this and Drew and I were talking about this and Drew and I were talking about this before we started rolling, was it was before we started rolling, was it was before we started rolling, was it was really depressing watching the um the really depressing watching the um the really depressing watching the um the testimony was really depressing. It was testimony was really depressing. It was testimony was really depressing. It was just all theatrical everywhere on all just all theatrical everywhere on all just all theatrical everywhere on all sides. Bondi dodging, uh Democrats sides. Bondi dodging, uh Democrats sides. Bondi dodging, uh Democrats trying to play gotcha. Oh, in fact, the trying to play gotcha. Oh, in fact, the trying to play gotcha. Oh, in fact, the one thing we have to talk about, all the Biden years, it's all there. No all the Biden years, it's all there. No one cared about it. one cared about it. one cared about it. >> All the Bush years, >> All the Bush years, >> All the Bush years, >> all the Bush years, >> all the Bush years, >> all the Bush years, >> all the Obama years. >> all the Obama years. >> all the Obama years. >> So, this has become a thing now because >> So, this has become a thing now because >> So, this has become a thing now because it is politically expedient. Trump it is politically expedient. Trump it is politically expedient. Trump foolishly made it a pillar upon which he foolishly made it a pillar upon which he foolishly made it a pillar upon which he ran. That's coming back to haunt him. He ran. That's coming back to haunt him. He ran. That's coming back to haunt him. He never should have done that if he wasn't never should have done that if he wasn't never should have done that if he wasn't prepared to just turn everything over. prepared to just turn everything over. prepared to just turn everything over. So, hey, play with fire, you get burned. So, hey, play with fire, you get burned. So, hey, play with fire, you get burned. So, you've got them doing that. Then on So, you've got them doing that. Then on So, you've got them doing that. Then on top of that, if we can't agree that this top of that, if we can't agree that this top of that, if we can't agree that this is clearly a both sides problem, you is clearly a both sides problem, you is clearly a both sides problem, you this is everybody is caught up in this this is everybody is caught up in this this is everybody is caught up in this thing. It is wild. Uh you've got Obama's thing. It is wild. Uh you've got Obama's thing. It is wild. Uh you've got Obama's lead attorney just had to resign from lead attorney just had to resign from lead attorney just had to resign from her position as legal counsel for her position as legal counsel for her position as legal counsel for Goldman Goldman Sachs because she was Goldman Goldman Sachs because she was Goldman Goldman Sachs because she was calling Epstein like uncle and like so calling Epstein like uncle and like so calling Epstein like uncle and like so anyway that's probably not going to play anyway that's probably not going to play anyway that's probably not going to play out well for her even beyond this. Uh out well for her even beyond this. Uh out well for her even beyond this. Uh obviously we've got plenty of people on obviously we've got plenty of people on obviously we've got plenty of people on the Republican side that are caught up the Republican side that are caught up the Republican side that are caught up in this eye on the prize. in this eye on the prize. in this eye on the prize. Where are the indictments? Who's being Where are the indictments? Who's being Where are the indictments? Who's being pursued for what? uh we've passed law on pursued for what? uh we've passed law on pursued for what? uh we've passed law on what the Transparency Act needs to look what the Transparency Act needs to look what the Transparency Act needs to look like. Are we meeting those hurdles? Yes like. Are we meeting those hurdles? Yes like. Are we meeting those hurdles? Yes or no? If not, what are we doing about or no? If not, what are we doing about or no? If not, what are we doing about it? And you just stay logistically it? And you just stay logistically it? And you just stay logistically minded. You just stay grounded in the minded. You just stay grounded in the minded. You just stay grounded in the facts and you don't let people pull you facts and you don't let people pull you facts and you don't let people pull you into the emotional battle. Um this is into the emotional battle. Um this is into the emotional battle. Um this is something I don't know if it's on your something I don't know if it's on your something I don't know if it's on your list of things to talk about, but so list of things to talk about, but so list of things to talk about, but so Lisa interviewed me about the fact that Lisa interviewed me about the fact that Lisa interviewed me about the fact that I voted for Trump. Uh that got picked up I voted for Trump. Uh that got picked up I voted for Trump. Uh that got picked up by Vision Lani who said that he felt by Vision Lani who said that he felt by Vision Lani who said that he felt betrayed. Uh, and so he's saying Tom betrayed. Uh, and so he's saying Tom betrayed. Uh, and so he's saying Tom doesn't understand economics, as you can doesn't understand economics, as you can doesn't understand economics, as you can imagine. I'm prepared to take that Pepsi imagine. I'm prepared to take that Pepsi imagine. I'm prepared to take that Pepsi challenge. I replied directly to Vision challenge. I replied directly to Vision challenge. I replied directly to Vision on his Instagram post. Uh, I'm happy to on his Instagram post. Uh, I'm happy to on his Instagram post. Uh, I'm happy to sit down and talk about the facts of sit down and talk about the facts of sit down and talk about the facts of economics. Um, one, I'm happy if he economics. Um, one, I'm happy if he economics. Um, one, I'm happy if he really does see something that I'm really does see something that I'm really does see something that I'm missing, I'll want to update my missing, I'll want to update my missing, I'll want to update my thinking. Uh, but I have a feeling at thinking. Uh, but I have a feeling at thinking. Uh, but I have a feeling at the end of that that that won't be the the end of that that that won't be the the end of that that that won't be the case. What will end up happening is he's case. What will end up happening is he's case. What will end up happening is he's going to give emotional arguments. We'll going to give emotional arguments. We'll going to give emotional arguments. We'll see. We'll see. Give him every chance. see. We'll see. Give him every chance. see. We'll see. Give him every chance. But I bring that up to say in that But I bring that up to say in that But I bring that up to say in that conversation, my thing is just going to conversation, my thing is just going to conversation, my thing is just going to be coming back to the facts. How does be coming back to the facts. How does be coming back to the facts. How does this stuff play out? What do we know to this stuff play out? What do we know to this stuff play out? What do we know to be true? How do we separate the things be true? How do we separate the things be true? How do we separate the things that we fear or the things that we feel that we fear or the things that we feel that we fear or the things that we feel from the things that we can look from the things that we can look from the things that we can look historically or map out going forward? historically or map out going forward? historically or map out going forward? And if you approach arguments in that And if you approach arguments in that And if you approach arguments in that way, then at a minimum, you get a little way, then at a minimum, you get a little way, then at a minimum, you get a little bit wiser as you move forward. You might bit wiser as you move forward. You might bit wiser as you move forward. You might not win the argument. That's perfectly not win the argument. That's perfectly not win the argument. That's perfectly fine. Winning the argument should never fine. Winning the argument should never fine. Winning the argument should never be the north star. It should be about be the north star. It should be about be the north star. It should be about doing the thing that gets you towards an doing the thing that gets you towards an doing the thing that gets you towards an honorable goal. So that that's the thing honorable goal. So that that's the thing honorable goal. So that that's the thing that I want to see here. I want us all that I want to see here. I want us all that I want to see here. I want us all to map out exactly what our honorable to map out exactly what our honorable to map out exactly what our honorable goal is. Protect the most vulnerable goal is. Protect the most vulnerable goal is. Protect the most vulnerable among us. Map the webs of power that are among us. Map the webs of power that are among us. Map the webs of power that are toxic and absolutely destroying not just toxic and absolutely destroying not just toxic and absolutely destroying not just our country, but pointing the world in a our country, but pointing the world in a our country, but pointing the world in a direction that's led us to populism. And direction that's led us to populism. And direction that's led us to populism. And then that the theatrics are being used then that the theatrics are being used then that the theatrics are being used to distract. If we can just hold all to distract. If we can just hold all to distract. If we can just hold all that in mind, stay calm, not get that in mind, stay calm, not get that in mind, stay calm, not get emotional, walk through the beats, get emotional, walk through the beats, get emotional, walk through the beats, get to the things that we want to get to, to the things that we want to get to, to the things that we want to get to, people being prosecuted for crimes, hey, people being prosecuted for crimes, hey, people being prosecuted for crimes, hey, everything will be fine. But if we get everything will be fine. But if we get everything will be fine. But if we get sucked up in the drama of it all, we're sucked up in the drama of it all, we're sucked up in the drama of it all, we're toast. I just appreciate the expediency toast. I just appreciate the expediency toast. I just appreciate the expediency that some of these private and that some of these private and that some of these private and international entities are doing. The international entities are doing. The international entities are doing. The fact that um the council, she works at fact that um the council, she works at fact that um the council, she works at Goldman Sachs, she's in the private Goldman Sachs, she's in the private Goldman Sachs, she's in the private sector now. the fact that she stepped sector now. the fact that she stepped sector now. the fact that she stepped down and had to leave the company. There down and had to leave the company. There down and had to leave the company. There was um the Life Touch, the children's was um the Life Touch, the children's was um the Life Touch, the children's photographer company that had ties to photographer company that had ties to photographer company that had ties to Epstein. They already been removed out Epstein. They already been removed out Epstein. They already been removed out of schools. Um of schools. Um of schools. Um >> you want to talk about a bad look. >> you want to talk about a bad look. >> you want to talk about a bad look. >> Yeah. International internationals. We >> Yeah. International internationals. We >> Yeah. International internationals. We already talk about international already talk about international already talk about international dignitaries having to step down. So much dignitaries having to step down. So much dignitaries having to step down. So much so as some people losing their monarch. so as some people losing their monarch. so as some people losing their monarch. Like you're no longer in the royal Like you're no longer in the royal Like you're no longer in the royal family and yet we have a old CEO that is family and yet we have a old CEO that is family and yet we have a old CEO that is somehow just shaking and jing and moving somehow just shaking and jing and moving somehow just shaking and jing and moving through the ranks. So, it's one of those through the ranks. So, it's one of those through the ranks. So, it's one of those things that things that things that I don't want to be a depressionist. I don't want to be a depressionist. I don't want to be a depressionist. Nothing we can do, it seems. But this is Nothing we can do, it seems. But this is Nothing we can do, it seems. But this is seems to me like the classic fact of law seems to me like the classic fact of law seems to me like the classic fact of law enforcement is for poor people, rich enforcement is for poor people, rich enforcement is for poor people, rich people. If you got enough, you can beat people. If you got enough, you can beat people. If you got enough, you can beat the case. And it just seems that right the case. And it just seems that right the case. And it just seems that right now there's at least directional energy now there's at least directional energy now there's at least directional energy toward, hey, let's just sit down with toward, hey, let's just sit down with toward, hey, let's just sit down with the victims. Let's just talk to them. the victims. Let's just talk to them. the victims. Let's just talk to them. Let's try to do something. You guys Let's try to do something. You guys Let's try to do something. You guys bought it up. You wanted to have this bought it up. You wanted to have this bought it up. You wanted to have this thing on the table. Now it's on the thing on the table. Now it's on the thing on the table. Now it's on the table. and you're telling me that it's table. and you're telling me that it's table. and you're telling me that it's nothing burger where international nothing burger where international nothing burger where international entities are like, "Nah, we you can't do entities are like, "Nah, we you can't do entities are like, "Nah, we you can't do this." You know what I mean? So, that's this." You know what I mean? So, that's this." You know what I mean? So, that's where I think the where I think the where I think the >> where the lost hope is coming from >> where the lost hope is coming from >> where the lost hope is coming from because it just seems like because it just seems like because it just seems like >> this administration isn't interested in >> this administration isn't interested in >> this administration isn't interested in investigating it. And I'm 100% with you. investigating it. And I'm 100% with you. investigating it. And I'm 100% with you. Democrats are trying to use this as a Democrats are trying to use this as a Democrats are trying to use this as a victory lap to the midterms. It's not victory lap to the midterms. It's not victory lap to the midterms. It's not about partisans. If Obama got to go to about partisans. If Obama got to go to about partisans. If Obama got to go to jail, cool. If he was touching kids, put jail, cool. If he was touching kids, put jail, cool. If he was touching kids, put him right next to Trump. I don't care. him right next to Trump. I don't care. him right next to Trump. I don't care. Like, it doesn't matter. I don't have Like, it doesn't matter. I don't have Like, it doesn't matter. I don't have allegiance in that place. I just want to allegiance in that place. I just want to allegiance in that place. I just want to know that this is crazy as our know that this is crazy as our know that this is crazy as our government institution body that out of government institution body that out of government institution body that out of all these three million files, nobody's all these three million files, nobody's all these three million files, nobody's at least getting talked about, at least getting talked about, at least getting talked about, investigated. The victims haven't been investigated. The victims haven't been investigated. The victims haven't been talked to. Like, you can't say that talked to. Like, you can't say that talked to. Like, you can't say that that's okay. Whether you're Republican, that's okay. Whether you're Republican, that's okay. Whether you're Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or never voted in Democrat, Libertarian, or never voted in Democrat, Libertarian, or never voted in your life. Everybody will look at that your life. Everybody will look at that your life. Everybody will look at that and be like, "Okay, and be like, "Okay, and be like, "Okay, we we should do this. This is a kid we we should do this. This is a kid we we should do this. This is a kid crime. Like, we should all be on the crime. Like, we should all be on the crime. Like, we should all be on the same page that, hey, PDFs are bad." same page that, hey, PDFs are bad." same page that, hey, PDFs are bad." Okay, cool. And if we can't all agree on Okay, cool. And if we can't all agree on Okay, cool. And if we can't all agree on that in America, we might be more cooked that in America, we might be more cooked that in America, we might be more cooked than we think we are. than we think we are. than we think we are. >> Yes. And um I was thinking this morning, >> Yes. And um I was thinking this morning, >> Yes. And um I was thinking this morning, can you imagine the world you will wake can you imagine the world you will wake can you imagine the world you will wake up in if they do a scan of his Zoro up in if they do a scan of his Zoro up in if they do a scan of his Zoro property. I think that's what it is property. I think that's what it is property. I think that's what it is where people are claiming that they're where people are claiming that they're where people are claiming that they're the bodies of children or Epstein's the bodies of children or Epstein's the bodies of children or Epstein's island. island. island. >> If if they find bodies, >> If if they find bodies, >> If if they find bodies, >> God help everyone >> God help everyone >> God help everyone >> involved in it. Literally, God help >> involved in it. Literally, God help >> involved in it. Literally, God help them. I have the chills. Uh I was like, them. I have the chills. Uh I was like, them. I have the chills. Uh I was like, you want to talk about something where you want to talk about something where you want to talk about something where people will riot people will riot people will riot if they find bodies if they find bodies if they find bodies and nobody has been prosecuted so far. and nobody has been prosecuted so far. and nobody has been prosecuted so far. Yo, if you find bodies as a part of Yo, if you find bodies as a part of Yo, if you find bodies as a part of like, hey, cool. We're diligently like, hey, cool. We're diligently like, hey, cool. We're diligently walking through this rule of law for walking through this rule of law for walking through this rule of law for sure. I want to be very clear. I want to sure. I want to be very clear. I want to sure. I want to be very clear. I want to see the process play out as it should. see the process play out as it should. see the process play out as it should. Um, but boy oh boy, I don't think people Um, but boy oh boy, I don't think people Um, but boy oh boy, I don't think people will take kindly to that because right will take kindly to that because right will take kindly to that because right now it's hard to integrate that it might now it's hard to integrate that it might now it's hard to integrate that it might be that bad. be that bad. be that bad. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But if it is that bad, uh, and you've >> But if it is that bad, uh, and you've >> But if it is that bad, uh, and you've been sitting on your hands playing been sitting on your hands playing been sitting on your hands playing political games, political games, political games, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> God help you. >> God help you. >> God help you. >> Uh, all right. So, for a quick hit, >> Uh, all right. So, for a quick hit, >> Uh, all right. So, for a quick hit, let's jump over to Argentina. Um, I've let's jump over to Argentina. Um, I've let's jump over to Argentina. Um, I've seen people like retweet this as he's seen people like retweet this as he's seen people like retweet this as he's bringing back slave labor and then once bringing back slave labor and then once bringing back slave labor and then once I seen you read I was like, "Oh, wait a I seen you read I was like, "Oh, wait a I seen you read I was like, "Oh, wait a second. It's he's just saying that it's second. It's he's just saying that it's second. It's he's just saying that it's allowed to do this, but it's not that allowed to do this, but it's not that allowed to do this, but it's not that it's mandatory to do it." it's mandatory to do it." it's mandatory to do it." >> Um, break this down for us cuz I feel >> Um, break this down for us cuz I feel >> Um, break this down for us cuz I feel like there's a lot of spin on X right like there's a lot of spin on X right like there's a lot of spin on X right now about it. now about it. now about it. >> Yeah, this one is hilarious. So, right >> Yeah, this one is hilarious. So, right >> Yeah, this one is hilarious. So, right now in Argentina, they have made it now in Argentina, they have made it now in Argentina, they have made it legal where it was previously illegal to legal where it was previously illegal to legal where it was previously illegal to work a 12-h hour day. Now, let's be very work a 12-h hour day. Now, let's be very work a 12-h hour day. Now, let's be very clear. It's not mandatory. It's just clear. It's not mandatory. It's just clear. It's not mandatory. It's just legal. So people are able to, for legal. So people are able to, for legal. So people are able to, for instance, if you want to take a instance, if you want to take a instance, if you want to take a vacation, you can stock up hours now. So vacation, you can stock up hours now. So vacation, you can stock up hours now. So you could work more than your normal you could work more than your normal you could work more than your normal shift, bank up the hours, and then go shift, bank up the hours, and then go shift, bank up the hours, and then go take a paid vacation. So take a paid vacation. So take a paid vacation. So when you look at the most effective when you look at the most effective when you look at the most effective countries from an economic standpoint, countries from an economic standpoint, countries from an economic standpoint, you are going to see that it is tied to you are going to see that it is tied to you are going to see that it is tied to a certain group of people that are hyper a certain group of people that are hyper a certain group of people that are hyper ambitious that want to work a lot. and ambitious that want to work a lot. and ambitious that want to work a lot. and the country that they're in, depending the country that they're in, depending the country that they're in, depending on where they're at, can either in on where they're at, can either in on where they're at, can either in reinforce that and allow that and make reinforce that and allow that and make reinforce that and allow that and make that possible and create an opportunity that possible and create an opportunity that possible and create an opportunity for them to get ahead and win by working for them to get ahead and win by working for them to get ahead and win by working harder than other people. Uh or you can harder than other people. Uh or you can harder than other people. Uh or you can stifle that and thus hold back that stifle that and thus hold back that stifle that and thus hold back that economy. What Argentina is trying to economy. What Argentina is trying to economy. What Argentina is trying to wake up to is years, literally a hundred wake up to is years, literally a hundred wake up to is years, literally a hundred years of socialist policies took them years of socialist policies took them years of socialist policies took them from being one of the most vibrant from being one of the most vibrant from being one of the most vibrant economies not in South America, one of economies not in South America, one of economies not in South America, one of the most vibrant economies in the world. the most vibrant economies in the world. the most vibrant economies in the world. Okay, this Argentina used to be the Okay, this Argentina used to be the Okay, this Argentina used to be the place that immigrants wanted to go to. place that immigrants wanted to go to. place that immigrants wanted to go to. There was a period, I believe it was in There was a period, I believe it was in There was a period, I believe it was in the early 1900s, like 1920 or something, the early 1900s, like 1920 or something, the early 1900s, like 1920 or something, where more immigrants went to Argentina where more immigrants went to Argentina where more immigrants went to Argentina than came to the US. There was just so than came to the US. There was just so than came to the US. There was just so much opportunity. And then slowly but much opportunity. And then slowly but much opportunity. And then slowly but surely, a welfare state began to be the surely, a welfare state began to be the surely, a welfare state began to be the barnacles on the turtle that began to barnacles on the turtle that began to barnacles on the turtle that began to drown it. And they have spent a hundred drown it. And they have spent a hundred drown it. And they have spent a hundred years as a dysfunctional economic years as a dysfunctional economic years as a dysfunctional economic backwater country. And what they're backwater country. And what they're backwater country. And what they're trying to do now is make it so that trying to do now is make it so that trying to do now is make it so that people can be ambitious, so that people people can be ambitious, so that people people can be ambitious, so that people can go after getting ahead. And this is can go after getting ahead. And this is can go after getting ahead. And this is one of those things that I think a lot one of those things that I think a lot one of those things that I think a lot of people right now today are very of people right now today are very of people right now today are very uncomfortable with. And the reality is uncomfortable with. And the reality is uncomfortable with. And the reality is what you want to do with an an economy what you want to do with an an economy what you want to do with an an economy if you really want it to thrive is you if you really want it to thrive is you if you really want it to thrive is you want to unchain the most ambitious in want to unchain the most ambitious in want to unchain the most ambitious in your society. This is exactly how Deng your society. This is exactly how Deng your society. This is exactly how Deng Xiaoping pulled hundreds of millions of Xiaoping pulled hundreds of millions of Xiaoping pulled hundreds of millions of people out of desperate, grinding people out of desperate, grinding people out of desperate, grinding poverty in China because it ends up poverty in China because it ends up poverty in China because it ends up being good for everybody is he let being good for everybody is he let being good for everybody is he let people get rich. people get rich. people get rich. I know people don't like to hear that, I know people don't like to hear that, I know people don't like to hear that, but the communist country that ran the but the communist country that ran the but the communist country that ran the experiment for you as to whether experiment for you as to whether experiment for you as to whether socialism and communism work said, "Ooh, socialism and communism work said, "Ooh, socialism and communism work said, "Ooh, after we've starved 45 million people to after we've starved 45 million people to after we've starved 45 million people to death, after we killed tens of millions death, after we killed tens of millions death, after we killed tens of millions more in our cultural revolution, this more in our cultural revolution, this more in our cultural revolution, this doesn't work. What if instead we align doesn't work. What if instead we align doesn't work. What if instead we align ourselves with the way that the human ourselves with the way that the human ourselves with the way that the human mind actually works and we let people be mind actually works and we let people be mind actually works and we let people be brace yourselves we let them be selfish brace yourselves we let them be selfish brace yourselves we let them be selfish and we let them find a way to advance and we let them find a way to advance and we let them find a way to advance themselves their family by innovating by themselves their family by innovating by themselves their family by innovating by building something that other people building something that other people building something that other people haven't built by working more than the haven't built by working more than the haven't built by working more than the next person is willing to work and by next person is willing to work and by next person is willing to work and by unleashing that you do get a ton of unleashing that you do get a ton of unleashing that you do get a ton of people the builders the makers the people the builders the makers the people the builders the makers the innovators they will go and build it's innovators they will go and build it's innovators they will go and build it's happened over and over and over and over happened over and over and over and over happened over and over and over and over and over and over and over throughout and over and over and over throughout and over and over and over throughout history. It is the very thing that made history. It is the very thing that made history. It is the very thing that made America the most dominant country on America the most dominant country on America the most dominant country on planet earth. We had no social safety planet earth. We had no social safety planet earth. We had no social safety net and people from all over the world net and people from all over the world net and people from all over the world came here and risked that there were came here and risked that there were came here and risked that there were certain colonies where it was like 82% certain colonies where it was like 82% certain colonies where it was like 82% likely you would die in your first likely you would die in your first likely you would die in your first winter and people still kept coming and winter and people still kept coming and winter and people still kept coming and kept coming and kept coming because they kept coming and kept coming because they kept coming and kept coming because they wanted out from under tyranny. What is wanted out from under tyranny. What is wanted out from under tyranny. What is tyranny? Tyranny is somebody telling you tyranny? Tyranny is somebody telling you tyranny? Tyranny is somebody telling you what you can and can't do. So what is it what you can and can't do. So what is it what you can and can't do. So what is it when somebody tells you you can't work when somebody tells you you can't work when somebody tells you you can't work 12 hours even if you want to? That is 12 hours even if you want to? That is 12 hours even if you want to? That is tyranny. And it has the kind of economic tyranny. And it has the kind of economic tyranny. And it has the kind of economic consequences that you would expect. You consequences that you would expect. You consequences that you would expect. You disincentivize people from working disincentivize people from working disincentivize people from working harder. You disincentivize that class of harder. You disincentivize that class of harder. You disincentivize that class of people that just want to go. They they people that just want to go. They they people that just want to go. They they want to grind. They want to build. They want to grind. They want to build. They want to grind. They want to build. They want to work in a way that other people want to work in a way that other people want to work in a way that other people don't want to work. And people shouldn't don't want to work. And people shouldn't don't want to work. And people shouldn't be forced to work that much. But the be forced to work that much. But the be forced to work that much. But the reality is goals make demands. If you reality is goals make demands. If you reality is goals make demands. If you want to be the best at whatever you're want to be the best at whatever you're want to be the best at whatever you're doing, you're going to have to outwork doing, you're going to have to outwork doing, you're going to have to outwork other people. If you want to build a other people. If you want to build a other people. If you want to build a company that's more successful than the company that's more successful than the company that's more successful than the next person so you can reap the rewards next person so you can reap the rewards next person so you can reap the rewards of that, you're going to have to outwork of that, you're going to have to outwork of that, you're going to have to outwork the next person. You're going to have to the next person. You're going to have to the next person. You're going to have to work smart, hard, and long hours. work smart, hard, and long hours. work smart, hard, and long hours. And I get it. People don't some people And I get it. People don't some people And I get it. People don't some people don't want to embrace that. But for me don't want to embrace that. But for me don't want to embrace that. But for me as somebody who has chosen a life that I as somebody who has chosen a life that I as somebody who has chosen a life that I love by the way for 25 years I have love by the way for 25 years I have love by the way for 25 years I have effectively it's I've gone through effectively it's I've gone through effectively it's I've gone through different phases for health reasons or different phases for health reasons or different phases for health reasons or whatever but effectively from the moment whatever but effectively from the moment whatever but effectively from the moment I wake up Monday through Friday I'm I wake up Monday through Friday I'm I wake up Monday through Friday I'm either working or working out and I have either working or working out and I have either working or working out and I have been able to advance my life been able to advance my life been able to advance my life economically for sure but also just in economically for sure but also just in economically for sure but also just in terms of the things that I'm able to do terms of the things that I'm able to do terms of the things that I'm able to do in the world. I have loved it. And if I in the world. I have loved it. And if I in the world. I have loved it. And if I ever stop loving it, then I'll stop ever stop loving it, then I'll stop ever stop loving it, then I'll stop working that hard. But the reality is working that hard. But the reality is working that hard. But the reality is that's what I want to do. I have that's what I want to do. I have that's what I want to do. I have plenty of money. I never need to work plenty of money. I never need to work plenty of money. I never need to work again. But I work 16 to 18 hours a day, again. But I work 16 to 18 hours a day, again. But I work 16 to 18 hours a day, Monday through Friday, another call it 8 Monday through Friday, another call it 8 Monday through Friday, another call it 8 to 10 Saturday and Sunday. That's the to 10 Saturday and Sunday. That's the to 10 Saturday and Sunday. That's the life I want to lead. So to me, this is a life I want to lead. So to me, this is a life I want to lead. So to me, this is a good sign. This is people that are good sign. This is people that are good sign. This is people that are saying, "Hey, you don't have to, but if saying, "Hey, you don't have to, but if saying, "Hey, you don't have to, but if you want to, the option is there. We'll see what happens. Um, I don't We'll see what happens. Um, I don't know. I feel like this is one of those know. I feel like this is one of those know. I feel like this is one of those things. It sounds worse than it actually things. It sounds worse than it actually things. It sounds worse than it actually is. So, let's is. So, let's is. So, let's >> It doesn't sound bad at all. It's crazy >> It doesn't sound bad at all. It's crazy >> It doesn't sound bad at all. It's crazy to me that people think this is bad. It to me that people think this is bad. It to me that people think this is bad. It is crazy to me that in the state of is crazy to me that in the state of is crazy to me that in the state of California, it is illegal to be an California, it is illegal to be an California, it is illegal to be an unpaid intern. unpaid intern. unpaid intern. That's illegal. What? My best piece of That's illegal. What? My best piece of That's illegal. What? My best piece of advice, if it weren't illegal, I would advice, if it weren't illegal, I would advice, if it weren't illegal, I would tell you, "Hey, find somebody who's tell you, "Hey, find somebody who's tell you, "Hey, find somebody who's living the life you want to live and go living the life you want to live and go living the life you want to live and go tell them, I will work for you for free. tell them, I will work for you for free. tell them, I will work for you for free. I will work hard. I will be smart. All I I will work hard. I will be smart. All I I will work hard. I will be smart. All I ask in exchange is knowledge and ask in exchange is knowledge and ask in exchange is knowledge and connections." connections." connections." That is so much more useful than money That is so much more useful than money That is so much more useful than money by a lot. Money spends once. knowledge by a lot. Money spends once. knowledge by a lot. Money spends once. knowledge you can use over and over and over and you can use over and over and over and you can use over and over and over and over. Same with connections. So, it is over. Same with connections. So, it is over. Same with connections. So, it is wild to me that people think um wild to me that people think um wild to me that people think um everyone's dumb. They're going to be everyone's dumb. They're going to be everyone's dumb. They're going to be manipulated and I've got to protect manipulated and I've got to protect manipulated and I've got to protect adults from doing something that they adults from doing something that they adults from doing something that they want to do. That's so wild to me. I want to do. That's so wild to me. I want to do. That's so wild to me. I don't know how people aren't more don't know how people aren't more don't know how people aren't more offended by that. That that is offended by that. That that is offended by that. That that is grotesque. grotesque. grotesque. And to me, that is a nanny state where And to me, that is a nanny state where And to me, that is a nanny state where you have to have the base assumption you have to have the base assumption you have to have the base assumption that people are too stupid to protect that people are too stupid to protect that people are too stupid to protect themselves if you're a child. Yeah, for themselves if you're a child. Yeah, for themselves if you're a child. Yeah, for sure. Protect kids. Obviously, kids sure. Protect kids. Obviously, kids sure. Protect kids. Obviously, kids literally are too stupid to fend for literally are too stupid to fend for literally are too stupid to fend for themselves, but adults are not. And when themselves, but adults are not. And when themselves, but adults are not. And when you start treating adults like they're you start treating adults like they're you start treating adults like they're too stupid to think for themselves, you too stupid to think for themselves, you too stupid to think for themselves, you are going to have problems as we're are going to have problems as we're are going to have problems as we're witnessing. witnessing. witnessing. >> Um, in other news, internationally, >> Um, in other news, internationally, >> Um, in other news, internationally, Russia is moving back to the US dollar Russia is moving back to the US dollar Russia is moving back to the US dollar as part of a wide-ranging economic as part of a wide-ranging economic as part of a wide-ranging economic partnership. I will put a huge asterk on partnership. I will put a huge asterk on partnership. I will put a huge asterk on this. This is one of those, it's part of this. This is one of those, it's part of this. This is one of those, it's part of the Ukraine peace deal ultimately. So the Ukraine peace deal ultimately. So the Ukraine peace deal ultimately. So there is some stipulations that are there is some stipulations that are there is some stipulations that are still very much evolved and we know that still very much evolved and we know that still very much evolved and we know that we pump faked on on peace still a few we pump faked on on peace still a few we pump faked on on peace still a few times. So this is pending nothing is times. So this is pending nothing is times. So this is pending nothing is official but some of the details that official but some of the details that official but some of the details that the partnership would include um would the partnership would include um would the partnership would include um would be US and Russia working together on be US and Russia working together on be US and Russia working together on fossil fuels joint investments in fossil fuels joint investments in fossil fuels joint investments in natural gas offshore oil and critical natural gas offshore oil and critical natural gas offshore oil and critical raw materials partnership windfall for raw materials partnership windfall for raw materials partnership windfall for US companies Russia's return to the US US companies Russia's return to the US US companies Russia's return to the US the USD settlement system which I think the USD settlement system which I think the USD settlement system which I think that last one is something we want to that last one is something we want to that last one is something we want to highlight and talk about. highlight and talk about. highlight and talk about. >> Yeah. So, if we could get Russia uh to >> Yeah. So, if we could get Russia uh to >> Yeah. So, if we could get Russia uh to rembrace the dollar as they have just rembrace the dollar as they have just rembrace the dollar as they have just apparently offered to do, this is coming apparently offered to do, this is coming apparently offered to do, this is coming from intelligence that people have from intelligence that people have from intelligence that people have obtained from in Ukraine uh and it is obtained from in Ukraine uh and it is obtained from in Ukraine uh and it is tied to the war in Ukraine. The story tied to the war in Ukraine. The story tied to the war in Ukraine. The story broke yesterday via Bloomberg and if broke yesterday via Bloomberg and if broke yesterday via Bloomberg and if it's true and ultimately successful, it's true and ultimately successful, it's true and ultimately successful, that's going to be the big question. It that's going to be the big question. It that's going to be the big question. It would be extremely consequential for would be extremely consequential for would be extremely consequential for them to rembrace the dollar. Uh it's them to rembrace the dollar. Uh it's them to rembrace the dollar. Uh it's came from the internal memo in the came from the internal memo in the came from the internal memo in the Kremlin. And it was drafted this year, Kremlin. And it was drafted this year, Kremlin. And it was drafted this year, circulated among senior Russian circulated among senior Russian circulated among senior Russian officials, and it proposes that Russia officials, and it proposes that Russia officials, and it proposes that Russia return to the dollar, which is crazy return to the dollar, which is crazy return to the dollar, which is crazy because that settlement system is a part because that settlement system is a part because that settlement system is a part of the sweeping economic system that was of the sweeping economic system that was of the sweeping economic system that was trying to hold them back. But this would trying to hold them back. But this would trying to hold them back. But this would allow them to basically get a win with allow them to basically get a win with allow them to basically get a win with Trump. As Drew was saying, it's Trump. As Drew was saying, it's Trump. As Drew was saying, it's contingent on actually ending the contingent on actually ending the contingent on actually ending the Ukraine war. So they want the US to come Ukraine war. So they want the US to come Ukraine war. So they want the US to come in, help them end the war in Ukraine. in, help them end the war in Ukraine. in, help them end the war in Ukraine. And if they do that, they're like, "Hey, And if they do that, they're like, "Hey, And if they do that, they're like, "Hey, here's the thing that we're prepared to here's the thing that we're prepared to here's the thing that we're prepared to do now in the bare knuckle brawl to do now in the bare knuckle brawl to do now in the bare knuckle brawl to establish a new world order, which is establish a new world order, which is establish a new world order, which is happening right now. You are in the happening right now. You are in the happening right now. You are in the middle of it." Getting Russia back on middle of it." Getting Russia back on middle of it." Getting Russia back on the dollar train would be huge. Huge. the dollar train would be huge. Huge. the dollar train would be huge. Huge. This is the very same Russia that has This is the very same Russia that has This is the very same Russia that has spent the last four years aggressively spent the last four years aggressively spent the last four years aggressively ddollarizing. They're a big part of the ddollarizing. They're a big part of the ddollarizing. They're a big part of the reason I keep creating content about, reason I keep creating content about, reason I keep creating content about, hey everybody, wake up to the fact that hey everybody, wake up to the fact that hey everybody, wake up to the fact that because partly Russia's been building because partly Russia's been building because partly Russia's been building alternative payment systems, settling alternative payment systems, settling alternative payment systems, settling 90% of its trade with China and rubles 90% of its trade with China and rubles 90% of its trade with China and rubles and yuan and championing bricks as the and yuan and championing bricks as the and yuan and championing bricks as the vehicle for ending American financial vehicle for ending American financial vehicle for ending American financial hedgeimonyy that we have gone from hedgeimonyy that we have gone from hedgeimonyy that we have gone from roughly 72% of global trade being roughly 72% of global trade being roughly 72% of global trade being settled in USD to now in the 50s. Okay, settled in USD to now in the 50s. Okay, settled in USD to now in the 50s. Okay, so it is happening. It is happening fast so it is happening. It is happening fast so it is happening. It is happening fast and having Russia now quietly pitching and having Russia now quietly pitching and having Russia now quietly pitching Washington on coming back to the dollar, Washington on coming back to the dollar, Washington on coming back to the dollar, it would be a major change and a massive it would be a major change and a massive it would be a major change and a massive coup in terms of the US versus China coup in terms of the US versus China coup in terms of the US versus China power dynamic. We are in a battle that power dynamic. We are in a battle that power dynamic. We are in a battle that is binary. Either the US is going to win is binary. Either the US is going to win is binary. Either the US is going to win and this is largely a question of AI. and this is largely a question of AI. and this is largely a question of AI. Either the US is going to win and we are Either the US is going to win and we are Either the US is going to win and we are going to dominate the next century or it going to dominate the next century or it going to dominate the next century or it is going to be China that wins and they is going to be China that wins and they is going to be China that wins and they are going to dominate the next century. are going to dominate the next century. are going to dominate the next century. This is how great power politics plays This is how great power politics plays This is how great power politics plays out, out, out, accelerated wildly by how winner take accelerated wildly by how winner take accelerated wildly by how winner take all AI is going to be. Now, the memo, all AI is going to be. Now, the memo, all AI is going to be. Now, the memo, which is being dubbed the Demetriv which is being dubbed the Demetriv which is being dubbed the Demetriv package, was named after Carel Demetriv, package, was named after Carel Demetriv, package, was named after Carel Demetriv, the Kremlin negotiator, who also heads the Kremlin negotiator, who also heads the Kremlin negotiator, who also heads Russia's sovereign wealth fund. So, this Russia's sovereign wealth fund. So, this Russia's sovereign wealth fund. So, this is somebody that actually understands is somebody that actually understands is somebody that actually understands deeply the consequences of the current deeply the consequences of the current deeply the consequences of the current Russian strategy. and Ukrainian uh Russian strategy. and Ukrainian uh Russian strategy. and Ukrainian uh President Zalinski has referenced it President Zalinski has referenced it President Zalinski has referenced it himself. So large reason to believe that himself. So large reason to believe that himself. So large reason to believe that this is all real. And he said that this is all real. And he said that this is all real. And he said that Ukrainian intelligence had gathered Ukrainian intelligence had gathered Ukrainian intelligence had gathered information on this massive bilateral information on this massive bilateral information on this massive bilateral economic proposed agreement uh between economic proposed agreement uh between economic proposed agreement uh between Russia and the US and that it's running Russia and the US and that it's running Russia and the US and that it's running in parallel to the peace talks. Now, in parallel to the peace talks. Now, in parallel to the peace talks. Now, I've got to imagine he's not exactly I've got to imagine he's not exactly I've got to imagine he's not exactly thrilled to see the US and Russia coming thrilled to see the US and Russia coming thrilled to see the US and Russia coming together, but in terms of what is together, but in terms of what is together, but in terms of what is certainly better for America in the long certainly better for America in the long certainly better for America in the long run, having a functioning relationship run, having a functioning relationship run, having a functioning relationship with Russia at this kind of level where with Russia at this kind of level where with Russia at this kind of level where you get one of a small handful of global you get one of a small handful of global you get one of a small handful of global power players back on the dollar system, power players back on the dollar system, power players back on the dollar system, buddy. Obviously, very good for America buddy. Obviously, very good for America buddy. Obviously, very good for America in the long term. Now, the memo lays out in the long term. Now, the memo lays out in the long term. Now, the memo lays out seven areas of proposed cooperation. Uh seven areas of proposed cooperation. Uh seven areas of proposed cooperation. Uh Drew went through them, but you're Drew went through them, but you're Drew went through them, but you're talking about joint oil, LG ventures, talking about joint oil, LG ventures, talking about joint oil, LG ventures, preferential conditions for US companies preferential conditions for US companies preferential conditions for US companies to re-enter the Russian market, nuclear to re-enter the Russian market, nuclear to re-enter the Russian market, nuclear energy. This one is big because we're energy. This one is big because we're energy. This one is big because we're talking about getting the energy that we talking about getting the energy that we talking about getting the energy that we need for AI. Russia's return to the need for AI. Russia's return to the need for AI. Russia's return to the dollar settlement would be the biggest dollar settlement would be the biggest dollar settlement would be the biggest of all of them. But all of these things of all of them. But all of these things of all of them. But all of these things together would be great, especially together would be great, especially together would be great, especially cooperation on critical raw minerals cooperation on critical raw minerals cooperation on critical raw minerals like lithium and nickel. By the way, um like lithium and nickel. By the way, um like lithium and nickel. By the way, um this one's going to be controversial, this one's going to be controversial, this one's going to be controversial, but they're also doing a joint push for but they're also doing a joint push for but they're also doing a joint push for fossil fuels. um to basically bypass fossil fuels. um to basically bypass fossil fuels. um to basically bypass some of the green energy policies that some of the green energy policies that some of the green energy policies that Russia even argues favors China and Russia even argues favors China and Russia even argues favors China and Europe. Oh, the irony that green Europe. Oh, the irony that green Europe. Oh, the irony that green policies favor China. Uh ultimately the policies favor China. Uh ultimately the policies favor China. Uh ultimately the question is going to become why would question is going to become why would question is going to become why would Russia want to do this? And especially Russia want to do this? And especially Russia want to do this? And especially right now given the sanctions that we right now given the sanctions that we right now given the sanctions that we put on them, given how damaging that's put on them, given how damaging that's put on them, given how damaging that's been to their economy, um wouldn't they been to their economy, um wouldn't they been to their economy, um wouldn't they be better off never being in a position be better off never being in a position be better off never being in a position to go through this again so that they to go through this again so that they to go through this again so that they can create an alternative? uh because on can create an alternative? uh because on can create an alternative? uh because on the surface returning to the dollar the surface returning to the dollar the surface returning to the dollar settlement layer just means that you're settlement layer just means that you're settlement layer just means that you're resubmitting yourself to Washington resubmitting yourself to Washington resubmitting yourself to Washington control. We've already weaponized it control. We've already weaponized it control. We've already weaponized it against them. So given that we've frozen against them. So given that we've frozen against them. So given that we've frozen historically like $300 billion in historically like $300 billion in historically like $300 billion in Russian central bank reserves, why would Russian central bank reserves, why would Russian central bank reserves, why would they volunteer for this again? Um and they volunteer for this again? Um and they volunteer for this again? Um and the answer is Russia is in a very the answer is Russia is in a very the answer is Russia is in a very difficult situation. The alternative difficult situation. The alternative difficult situation. The alternative currency systems that they built with currency systems that they built with currency systems that they built with China, they do work, but they come at a China, they do work, but they come at a China, they do work, but they come at a huge cost. Russia sees themselves as huge cost. Russia sees themselves as huge cost. Russia sees themselves as increasingly dependent on Beijing. increasingly dependent on Beijing. increasingly dependent on Beijing. Remember, Beijing is making a play to be Remember, Beijing is making a play to be Remember, Beijing is making a play to be the central kingdom to the entire world. the central kingdom to the entire world. the central kingdom to the entire world. And that dependency is starting to feel And that dependency is starting to feel And that dependency is starting to feel to them, I'm sure, a lot less like a to them, I'm sure, a lot less like a to them, I'm sure, a lot less like a partnership than like a leash. And so partnership than like a leash. And so partnership than like a leash. And so the memo itself is arguing that the memo itself is arguing that the memo itself is arguing that returning to the dollar would stabilize returning to the dollar would stabilize returning to the dollar would stabilize Russia's foreign exchange market and Russia's foreign exchange market and Russia's foreign exchange market and reduce volatility in its balance of reduce volatility in its balance of reduce volatility in its balance of payments, which is true. So in plain payments, which is true. So in plain payments, which is true. So in plain English, the ruble yuan workaround is English, the ruble yuan workaround is English, the ruble yuan workaround is messy and expensive and Russia knows it. messy and expensive and Russia knows it. messy and expensive and Russia knows it. And more importantly, this is a play to And more importantly, this is a play to And more importantly, this is a play to split the US from its current split the US from its current split the US from its current hyperconfrontational posture towards hyperconfrontational posture towards hyperconfrontational posture towards Moscow by giving Trump something he Moscow by giving Trump something he Moscow by giving Trump something he clearly wants. And people know if you clearly wants. And people know if you clearly wants. And people know if you give Trump a thing that that he wants, give Trump a thing that that he wants, give Trump a thing that that he wants, then you are going to be in a much then you are going to be in a much then you are going to be in a much better negotiating position. Whether better negotiating position. Whether better negotiating position. Whether that's good or bad, I'll let you guys that's good or bad, I'll let you guys that's good or bad, I'll let you guys decide. But it does appear to be true. decide. But it does appear to be true. decide. But it does appear to be true. And a win for the dollar on the world And a win for the dollar on the world And a win for the dollar on the world stage is a big win for the US. That is stage is a big win for the US. That is stage is a big win for the US. That is for sure. And it definitely would help for sure. And it definitely would help for sure. And it definitely would help Trump. If Russia re-mbbraces dollar um Trump. If Russia re-mbbraces dollar um Trump. If Russia re-mbbraces dollar um settlement, it weakens the entire bricks settlement, it weakens the entire bricks settlement, it weakens the entire bricks durization, not only narrative, but durization, not only narrative, but durization, not only narrative, but actual process. So that would be a huge actual process. So that would be a huge actual process. So that would be a huge victory. And at a moment when dd victory. And at a moment when dd victory. And at a moment when dd dollararization has been accelerating, dollararization has been accelerating, dollararization has been accelerating, uh, this would be a very good thing. So uh, this would be a very good thing. So uh, this would be a very good thing. So you've got Xinping who's been hoarding you've got Xinping who's been hoarding you've got Xinping who's been hoarding gold, telling the world directly that gold, telling the world directly that gold, telling the world directly that they should switch over to the yuan as a they should switch over to the yuan as a they should switch over to the yuan as a world's reserve currency. Uh, you even world's reserve currency. Uh, you even world's reserve currency. Uh, you even have Secretary of State Marco Rubio have Secretary of State Marco Rubio have Secretary of State Marco Rubio warning for years, by the way, that warning for years, by the way, that warning for years, by the way, that sanctions are on a path to becoming sanctions are on a path to becoming sanctions are on a path to becoming obsolete, which would rob America of so obsolete, which would rob America of so obsolete, which would rob America of so much of its power. And all because much of its power. And all because much of its power. And all because you've got countries that are moving you've got countries that are moving you've got countries that are moving away from the dollar. So, you put all away from the dollar. So, you put all away from the dollar. So, you put all that together and this is a really big that together and this is a really big that together and this is a really big deal, deal, deal, but it's not as fun as the Pam Bondi but it's not as fun as the Pam Bondi but it's not as fun as the Pam Bondi thing. So, are people going to lean into thing. So, are people going to lean into thing. So, are people going to lean into it? We'll see. it? We'll see. it? We'll see. >> No, but going back to it, somebody in >> No, but going back to it, somebody in >> No, but going back to it, somebody in the chat was like, "Russia is doing this the chat was like, "Russia is doing this the chat was like, "Russia is doing this so they can get that seized funds back." so they can get that seized funds back." so they can get that seized funds back." And I'm like, "Hey, for 300 billion that And I'm like, "Hey, for 300 billion that And I'm like, "Hey, for 300 billion that was seized by the US government. I might was seized by the US government. I might was seized by the US government. I might make a deal, too." So, make a deal, too." So, make a deal, too." So, >> bro, that that is a small price to pay >> bro, that that is a small price to pay >> bro, that that is a small price to pay to be the world's reserve currency. A to be the world's reserve currency. A to be the world's reserve currency. A that is a tiny price to pay. This is that is a tiny price to pay. This is that is a tiny price to pay. This is where you have to understand why being where you have to understand why being where you have to understand why being the world's reserve currency is so the world's reserve currency is so the world's reserve currency is so valuable in in a very brief nutshell. It valuable in in a very brief nutshell. It valuable in in a very brief nutshell. It allows you to inflate your currency allows you to inflate your currency allows you to inflate your currency because you share that problem with the because you share that problem with the because you share that problem with the whole world, not just with your own whole world, not just with your own whole world, not just with your own people. And I have a growing hypothesis. people. And I have a growing hypothesis. people. And I have a growing hypothesis. I haven't heard anybody else say this, I haven't heard anybody else say this, I haven't heard anybody else say this, so take this with a grain of salt. But I so take this with a grain of salt. But I so take this with a grain of salt. But I have a growing hypothesis that what have a growing hypothesis that what have a growing hypothesis that what we're seeing in the markets right now, we're seeing in the markets right now, we're seeing in the markets right now, the reason all things will just like dip the reason all things will just like dip the reason all things will just like dip and then bounce back, dip and then and then bounce back, dip and then and then bounce back, dip and then bounce back, is what you're seeing is a bounce back, is what you're seeing is a bounce back, is what you're seeing is a correlation across effectively all asset correlation across effectively all asset correlation across effectively all asset classes. That there isn't anything classes. That there isn't anything classes. That there isn't anything uncorrelated anymore because the thing uncorrelated anymore because the thing uncorrelated anymore because the thing that they're correlated by is that they're correlated by is that they're correlated by is uncertainty. Investors don't know what uncertainty. Investors don't know what uncertainty. Investors don't know what the new world order is going to look the new world order is going to look the new world order is going to look like. just when you think gold is the like. just when you think gold is the like. just when you think gold is the place you want to be, silver is the place you want to be, silver is the place you want to be, silver is the place you want to be, all that stuff place you want to be, all that stuff place you want to be, all that stuff drops because Russia is like, "Well, drops because Russia is like, "Well, drops because Russia is like, "Well, actually, we are going to maybe get back actually, we are going to maybe get back actually, we are going to maybe get back in bed with the US." But that's a maybe. in bed with the US." But that's a maybe. in bed with the US." But that's a maybe. And who knows? And so, as all of this And who knows? And so, as all of this And who knows? And so, as all of this stuff plays out, is AI a bubble? Or is stuff plays out, is AI a bubble? Or is stuff plays out, is AI a bubble? Or is what Tom just said about AI true? And what Tom just said about AI true? And what Tom just said about AI true? And it's a winner take all and oh my god, it's a winner take all and oh my god, it's a winner take all and oh my god, like whatever we do, we've got to do it. like whatever we do, we've got to do it. like whatever we do, we've got to do it. So, nobody knows. And that deep So, nobody knows. And that deep So, nobody knows. And that deep uncertainty is causing them to be uncertainty is causing them to be uncertainty is causing them to be skittish. If you've ever seen like a skittish. If you've ever seen like a skittish. If you've ever seen like a deer, the way that it will suddenly deer, the way that it will suddenly deer, the way that it will suddenly freeze, look around, and then just dart freeze, look around, and then just dart freeze, look around, and then just dart and you're like, "The [ __ ] just and you're like, "The [ __ ] just and you're like, "The [ __ ] just happened?" That's what the markets feel happened?" That's what the markets feel happened?" That's what the markets feel like to me. Everyone is just so paranoid like to me. Everyone is just so paranoid like to me. Everyone is just so paranoid because they know they can't sit in cash because they know they can't sit in cash because they know they can't sit in cash in inflation. So, they know they can't in inflation. So, they know they can't in inflation. So, they know they can't sit there because they're expecting sit there because they're expecting sit there because they're expecting hyper printing of money anytime. I It's hyper printing of money anytime. I It's hyper printing of money anytime. I It's already started back up again, but already started back up again, but already started back up again, but they're expecting a whole lot of it to they're expecting a whole lot of it to they're expecting a whole lot of it to just go absolutely haywire. So they just go absolutely haywire. So they just go absolutely haywire. So they don't want to sit in cash, but they're don't want to sit in cash, but they're don't want to sit in cash, but they're also looking at the markets and they also looking at the markets and they also looking at the markets and they know that you've got Buffett that's like know that you've got Buffett that's like know that you've got Buffett that's like trying to be as much in a high option trying to be as much in a high option trying to be as much in a high option position as he can be so that as it position as he can be so that as it position as he can be so that as it crashes, he can go in and buy things. So crashes, he can go in and buy things. So crashes, he can go in and buy things. So everyone's like, "Oh god." So you want everyone's like, "Oh god." So you want everyone's like, "Oh god." So you want to be in the market to avoid missing to be in the market to avoid missing to be in the market to avoid missing things going up, but you want to be out things going up, but you want to be out things going up, but you want to be out of the market because you're expecting of the market because you're expecting of the market because you're expecting things to go hard down. Crypto is acting things to go hard down. Crypto is acting things to go hard down. Crypto is acting more like a high volatility tech stock more like a high volatility tech stock more like a high volatility tech stock than it is like gold. But gold is than it is like gold. But gold is than it is like gold. But gold is whipssawing in a way that I'm pretty whipssawing in a way that I'm pretty whipssawing in a way that I'm pretty sure we haven't seen in any of our sure we haven't seen in any of our sure we haven't seen in any of our lifetimes. So it's like, oh, and by the lifetimes. So it's like, oh, and by the lifetimes. So it's like, oh, and by the way, you're almost certainly in a way, you're almost certainly in a way, you're almost certainly in a recession. And so ah, like what do you recession. And so ah, like what do you recession. And so ah, like what do you do? K-shaped economy racing away from do? K-shaped economy racing away from do? K-shaped economy racing away from each other. AIS stealing jobs. Like each other. AIS stealing jobs. Like each other. AIS stealing jobs. Like people are freaking the [ __ ] out. And people are freaking the [ __ ] out. And people are freaking the [ __ ] out. And the instability in people's minds the instability in people's minds the instability in people's minds because it is world order related. We because it is world order related. We because it is world order related. We don't know what the world order is going don't know what the world order is going don't know what the world order is going to be. Now all of a sudden you're like, to be. Now all of a sudden you're like, to be. Now all of a sudden you're like, I'm not sure that I'm smarter than I'm not sure that I'm smarter than I'm not sure that I'm smarter than anybody else. Everything feels like a anybody else. Everything feels like a anybody else. Everything feels like a black swan because the markets are black swan because the markets are black swan because the markets are predicated on your ability to go, I see predicated on your ability to go, I see predicated on your ability to go, I see something other people don't. I'm gonna something other people don't. I'm gonna something other people don't. I'm gonna bet big on it. Michael Bur, the big bet big on it. Michael Bur, the big bet big on it. Michael Bur, the big short guy, short guy, short guy, liquidated his entire um wealth liquidated his entire um wealth liquidated his entire um wealth management management management group and gave money back to the group and gave money back to the group and gave money back to the investors and he said, "I don't investors and he said, "I don't investors and he said, "I don't understand the markets anymore." And understand the markets anymore." And understand the markets anymore." And that was like four months ago. that was like four months ago. that was like four months ago. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. Now the uncertainty is way higher than Now the uncertainty is way higher than Now the uncertainty is way higher than it was then. So if you've got one of the it was then. So if you've got one of the it was then. So if you've got one of the greatest financial minds of the last 30 greatest financial minds of the last 30 greatest financial minds of the last 30 years telling you, "Yeah, I don't years telling you, "Yeah, I don't years telling you, "Yeah, I don't understand what's happening." That I understand what's happening." That I understand what's happening." That I think is the thing that's uniting all of think is the thing that's uniting all of think is the thing that's uniting all of this. It's just everybody has a mental this. It's just everybody has a mental this. It's just everybody has a mental model where they try to reach out into model where they try to reach out into model where they try to reach out into the future and they just can't see it. the future and they just can't see it. the future and they just can't see it. >> There has been some speculation about >> There has been some speculation about >> There has been some speculation about how this interacts with the world order. how this interacts with the world order. how this interacts with the world order. I'm going to drop this on a super chat. I'm going to drop this on a super chat. I'm going to drop this on a super chat. Um this is from Stop Lurking and Start Um this is from Stop Lurking and Start Um this is from Stop Lurking and Start Living. Let's go. Living. Let's go. Living. Let's go. >> Um, we're going to introduce Ryan to the >> Um, we're going to introduce Ryan to the >> Um, we're going to introduce Ryan to the chat. Everybody give it up for Ryan. His chat. 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What did you agree or disagree with? >> Well, I can't wait for you guys to see >> Well, I can't wait for you guys to see >> Well, I can't wait for you guys to see the episode, so I'm not going to It's the episode, so I'm not going to It's the episode, so I'm not going to It's out. out. out. >> Oh, oh my god, it came out yesterday. >> Oh, oh my god, it came out yesterday. >> Oh, oh my god, it came out yesterday. That's right. How's it doing? That's right. How's it doing? That's right. How's it doing? >> Um, okay. >> Um, okay. >> Um, okay. >> Okay. Uhoh. Uh oh. Well, we need you >> Okay. Uhoh. Uh oh. Well, we need you >> Okay. Uhoh. Uh oh. Well, we need you guys to go check it out. Everybody guys to go check it out. Everybody guys to go check it out. Everybody should go watch Check it out. Uh, the should go watch Check it out. Uh, the should go watch Check it out. Uh, the great irony that our deep dives now great irony that our deep dives now great irony that our deep dives now become our dominant piece of content. become our dominant piece of content. become our dominant piece of content. But the the interview with Peter was But the the interview with Peter was But the the interview with Peter was awesome. I'm very eager for you guys to awesome. I'm very eager for you guys to awesome. I'm very eager for you guys to see it. Uh, okay. So the things that um see it. Uh, okay. So the things that um see it. Uh, okay. So the things that um updated my mental model and you you want updated my mental model and you you want updated my mental model and you you want to watch it for yourself but uh the big to watch it for yourself but uh the big to watch it for yourself but uh the big one was that China does not have the one was that China does not have the one was that China does not have the military might to project its power. So military might to project its power. So military might to project its power. So we would have to go to China in order we would have to go to China in order we would have to go to China in order for there to be a Thusidities trap for there to be a Thusidities trap for there to be a Thusidities trap conflict. The bad news is that I can conflict. The bad news is that I can conflict. The bad news is that I can actually see us going there because if actually see us going there because if actually see us going there because if we have to defend Japan which is now we have to defend Japan which is now we have to defend Japan which is now arming themselves up. They're building a arming themselves up. They're building a arming themselves up. They're building a military again. There is massive beef military again. There is massive beef military again. There is massive beef between Japan and China. China or Japan between Japan and China. China or Japan between Japan and China. China or Japan is our staunch ally. uh and we have is our staunch ally. uh and we have is our staunch ally. uh and we have economically leaned on them for a very economically leaned on them for a very economically leaned on them for a very long time. Japan has played a major role long time. Japan has played a major role long time. Japan has played a major role in the global economy. So I could see us in the global economy. So I could see us in the global economy. So I could see us turning a blind eye to Taiwan. I can't turning a blind eye to Taiwan. I can't turning a blind eye to Taiwan. I can't see us turning a blind eye to Japan. So see us turning a blind eye to Japan. So see us turning a blind eye to Japan. So uh that's where I'm like, uh oh, even if uh that's where I'm like, uh oh, even if uh that's where I'm like, uh oh, even if China cannot push all the way over into China cannot push all the way over into China cannot push all the way over into the Western Hemisphere via military the Western Hemisphere via military the Western Hemisphere via military power, I think that they have means to power, I think that they have means to power, I think that they have means to suck us into a regional conflict. So, I suck us into a regional conflict. So, I suck us into a regional conflict. So, I don't think we're off the hook as much don't think we're off the hook as much don't think we're off the hook as much as Peter would say we are there. Um, as Peter would say we are there. Um, as Peter would say we are there. Um, also I think that demographics are a also I think that demographics are a also I think that demographics are a problem for everyone. And so, while problem for everyone. And so, while problem for everyone. And so, while China may suffer more on a um like raw China may suffer more on a um like raw China may suffer more on a um like raw number basis, like let's say that they number basis, like let's say that they number basis, like let's say that they are overstating their population by 400 are overstating their population by 400 are overstating their population by 400 million. Okay, cool. They still have a million. Okay, cool. They still have a million. Okay, cool. They still have a billion people. So, we have not as bad billion people. So, we have not as bad billion people. So, we have not as bad demographic problems, but we have bad demographic problems, but we have bad demographic problems, but we have bad demographic problems. But we only have demographic problems. But we only have demographic problems. But we only have 330ish 330ish 330ish million people. So now all of a sudden million people. So now all of a sudden million people. So now all of a sudden it's like okay they're still two or it's like okay they're still two or it's like okay they're still two or three times our size depending on what three times our size depending on what three times our size depending on what the number is to me that's a question of the number is to me that's a question of the number is to me that's a question of Xi. Now this is where Peter and I both Xi. Now this is where Peter and I both Xi. Now this is where Peter and I both agree Xi is just in lockdown mode. He is agree Xi is just in lockdown mode. He is agree Xi is just in lockdown mode. He is trying to purge everybody and he is a trying to purge everybody and he is a trying to purge everybody and he is a more Mao style figure which is one of more Mao style figure which is one of more Mao style figure which is one of the reasons that I have turned a corner the reasons that I have turned a corner the reasons that I have turned a corner on China and am just hyper paranoid. Uh on China and am just hyper paranoid. Uh on China and am just hyper paranoid. Uh Mao is an unprecedented mass murderer. Mao is an unprecedented mass murderer. Mao is an unprecedented mass murderer. And so if Xi has any of those impulses And so if Xi has any of those impulses And so if Xi has any of those impulses to do everything by force, lock to do everything by force, lock to do everything by force, lock everything down, purge everyone that everything down, purge everyone that everything down, purge everyone that disagrees, um you eventually find disagrees, um you eventually find disagrees, um you eventually find yourself in a very very dark place. Um yourself in a very very dark place. Um yourself in a very very dark place. Um so yeah, that would be um the high level so yeah, that would be um the high level so yeah, that would be um the high level sort of where we agreed and where we sort of where we agreed and where we sort of where we agreed and where we disagreed. Um I think Peter is very disagreed. Um I think Peter is very disagreed. Um I think Peter is very smart and I watch his content smart and I watch his content smart and I watch his content frequently. Um, but yeah, still have a frequently. Um, but yeah, still have a frequently. Um, but yeah, still have a slightly different mental model than he slightly different mental model than he slightly different mental model than he does. does. does. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> Cool. >> We got three more super chats. >> We got three more super chats. >> We got three more super chats. >> Uh, yeah, let's hit the big Diggler one. >> Uh, yeah, let's hit the big Diggler one. >> Uh, yeah, let's hit the big Diggler one. >> Yes. Uh, from Big Diglers, DOG DOJ >> Yes. Uh, from Big Diglers, DOG DOJ >> Yes. Uh, from Big Diglers, DOG DOJ letting Congress members view unredacted letting Congress members view unredacted letting Congress members view unredacted Epstein files might be reversing. It Epstein files might be reversing. It Epstein files might be reversing. It could expose which ones involved with could expose which ones involved with could expose which ones involved with Epstein's search for dirt on themselves Epstein's search for dirt on themselves Epstein's search for dirt on themselves and their handlers, helping DOJ map Dark and their handlers, helping DOJ map Dark and their handlers, helping DOJ map Dark connections and his control over them. connections and his control over them. connections and his control over them. >> You ready for some interesting news? I'm >> You ready for some interesting news? I'm >> You ready for some interesting news? I'm not yet sure what to make of this. I not yet sure what to make of this. I not yet sure what to make of this. I don't even know if it's real. Please, don't even know if it's real. Please, don't even know if it's real. Please, grain of salt. But there is a guy, his grain of salt. But there is a guy, his grain of salt. But there is a guy, his tweet was doing very well, who claims tweet was doing very well, who claims tweet was doing very well, who claims that he has been able to with 25 lines that he has been able to with 25 lines that he has been able to with 25 lines of code. of code. of code. >> Um, he has been able to unredact >> Um, he has been able to unredact >> Um, he has been able to unredact all of the Epstein files. Now, uh, yeah, all of the Epstein files. Now, uh, yeah, all of the Epstein files. Now, uh, yeah, let's let's let him say it. Watch this let's let's let him say it. Watch this let's let's let him say it. Watch this clip. This is wild. I wrote 25 lines of clip. This is wild. I wrote 25 lines of clip. This is wild. I wrote 25 lines of code that can probably unredact all of code that can probably unredact all of code that can probably unredact all of the Epstein files in less than 30 the Epstein files in less than 30 the Epstein files in less than 30 seconds. Really not that crazy. All it seconds. Really not that crazy. All it seconds. Really not that crazy. All it does is take a PDF and turns it into a does is take a PDF and turns it into a does is take a PDF and turns it into a Microsoft Word doc because the Microsoft Microsoft Word doc because the Microsoft Microsoft Word doc because the Microsoft Word doc just completely removes all Word doc just completely removes all Word doc just completely removes all this black this black this black line right here. So line right here. So line right here. So took 0.2 seconds to do. So if you're not took 0.2 seconds to do. So if you're not took 0.2 seconds to do. So if you're not looking [clears throat] at your screen looking [clears throat] at your screen looking [clears throat] at your screen before I did mention that here's the before I did mention that here's the before I did mention that here's the black line but apparently the PDF is black line but apparently the PDF is black line but apparently the PDF is still aware of what's under it and so it still aware of what's under it and so it still aware of what's under it and so it passes that data to the Microsoft passes that data to the Microsoft passes that data to the Microsoft document and then the Microsoft document document and then the Microsoft document document and then the Microsoft document you can use to remove the black line. you can use to remove the black line. you can use to remove the black line. Now if that's accurate Now if that's accurate Now if that's accurate buddy um there the bad news is that that buddy um there the bad news is that that buddy um there the bad news is that that means that people that are trying to be means that people that are trying to be means that people that are trying to be protected are now at risk and obviously protected are now at risk and obviously protected are now at risk and obviously I hate that and I don't know what to do I hate that and I don't know what to do I hate that and I don't know what to do about that. Um, but the truth is going about that. Um, but the truth is going about that. Um, but the truth is going to come out. We just live in a different to come out. We just live in a different to come out. We just live in a different era. We live in a different era, era. We live in a different era, era. We live in a different era, everybody. And so, um, it's gonna come everybody. And so, um, it's gonna come everybody. And so, um, it's gonna come out. out. out. So, we'll see what the Fallout ends up So, we'll see what the Fallout ends up So, we'll see what the Fallout ends up being. But, um, yeah, trying to keep a being. But, um, yeah, trying to keep a being. But, um, yeah, trying to keep a lid on all of this stuff. That that lid on all of this stuff. That that lid on all of this stuff. That that game's already over. game's already over. game's already over. >> And going back to Big Diggers, um, they >> And going back to Big Diggers, um, they >> And going back to Big Diggers, um, they already they had four computers in the already they had four computers in the already they had four computers in the DOJ and they're already key logging DOJ and they're already key logging DOJ and they're already key logging who's searching what, who's looking up who's searching what, who's looking up who's searching what, who's looking up what. So they are keeping up track of what. So they are keeping up track of what. So they are keeping up track of what the people who are going into the what the people who are going into the what the people who are going into the DOJ to look through the Epste files are DOJ to look through the Epste files are DOJ to look through the Epste files are searching for. So they're definitely searching for. So they're definitely searching for. So they're definitely >> and that feels like another narrative >> and that feels like another narrative >> and that feels like another narrative move which I hate. So it's like you go move which I hate. So it's like you go move which I hate. So it's like you go in and you look up something and they're in and you look up something and they're in and you look up something and they're saying okay people that look for um God saying okay people that look for um God saying okay people that look for um God what did they say? People that look for what did they say? People that look for what did they say? People that look for victims are trying to protect I don't victims are trying to protect I don't victims are trying to protect I don't think that's quite how they said it. But think that's quite how they said it. But think that's quite how they said it. But then people that are looking for like then people that are looking for like then people that are looking for like specific names of people like was less specific names of people like was less specific names of people like was less Wexner in this uh that they're looking Wexner in this uh that they're looking Wexner in this uh that they're looking that's who they work for and they're that's who they work for and they're that's who they work for and they're trying to cover them up. And I'm like, trying to cover them up. And I'm like, trying to cover them up. And I'm like, hold on. That that is not the only hold on. That that is not the only hold on. That that is not the only reason somebody might do a search like reason somebody might do a search like reason somebody might do a search like that. Um, also it's just it might be that. Um, also it's just it might be that. Um, also it's just it might be legal that they did it because they're legal that they did it because they're legal that they did it because they're the the DOJ's computers, but it is a the the DOJ's computers, but it is a the the DOJ's computers, but it is a really uh bad faith move that's going to really uh bad faith move that's going to really uh bad faith move that's going to make people feel some type of way. So, make people feel some type of way. So, make people feel some type of way. So, at a time where just it's everything is at a time where just it's everything is at a time where just it's everything is politicized and shouldn't be, um, this politicized and shouldn't be, um, this politicized and shouldn't be, um, this was not a smart play in my opinion. Um, was not a smart play in my opinion. Um, was not a smart play in my opinion. Um, Eric, could we hit number four, please? Eric, could we hit number four, please? Eric, could we hit number four, please? Um, okay. Tom's been waiting for this Um, okay. Tom's been waiting for this Um, okay. Tom's been waiting for this all day. Um, all day. Um, all day. Um, let's start with the tweet, then I'll let's start with the tweet, then I'll let's start with the tweet, then I'll toss it over to you. Sad day in the NL toss it over to you. Sad day in the NL toss it over to you. Sad day in the NL uh Netherlands. The Dutch government is uh Netherlands. The Dutch government is uh Netherlands. The Dutch government is expected to pass a bill introducing a expected to pass a bill introducing a expected to pass a bill introducing a 36% tax on unrealized capital gains. 36% tax on unrealized capital gains. 36% tax on unrealized capital gains. This will destroy long-term strategies, This will destroy long-term strategies, This will destroy long-term strategies, kill compounding effects, and trigger a kill compounding effects, and trigger a kill compounding effects, and trigger a wealth ex exodus of biblical wealth ex exodus of biblical wealth ex exodus of biblical proportions. But they'll pass it anyway. proportions. But they'll pass it anyway. proportions. But they'll pass it anyway. can't fix stupid. can't fix stupid. can't fix stupid. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um I do have a breakdown here that kind >> Um I do have a breakdown here that kind >> Um I do have a breakdown here that kind of outlines what unrealized gains of outlines what unrealized gains of outlines what unrealized gains actually means. actually means. actually means. >> Let me I'll do like a whole thing that's >> Let me I'll do like a whole thing that's >> Let me I'll do like a whole thing that's like all in context. The thing you guys like all in context. The thing you guys like all in context. The thing you guys need to understand is need to understand is need to understand is >> the Netherlands have basically decided >> the Netherlands have basically decided >> the Netherlands have basically decided to lay bear their own economic ignorance to lay bear their own economic ignorance to lay bear their own economic ignorance and nuke their economy in a single move and nuke their economy in a single move and nuke their economy in a single move by taxing unrealized gains. This was a by taxing unrealized gains. This was a by taxing unrealized gains. This was a big blow up that people had with my take big blow up that people had with my take big blow up that people had with my take on Kla Harris. And I'm telling you, it on Kla Harris. And I'm telling you, it on Kla Harris. And I'm telling you, it is as big as I have made this out to be. is as big as I have made this out to be. is as big as I have made this out to be. And this is the Netherlands attempt at And this is the Netherlands attempt at And this is the Netherlands attempt at reforming what they call box three. It's reforming what they call box three. It's reforming what they call box three. It's their wealth tax system. Different their wealth tax system. Different their wealth tax system. Different people fall into different types of people fall into different types of people fall into different types of boxes. I'll walk through it a little boxes. I'll walk through it a little boxes. I'll walk through it a little bit. We probably don't need to get into bit. We probably don't need to get into bit. We probably don't need to get into the minutiae for you guys to understand the minutiae for you guys to understand the minutiae for you guys to understand why this is so problematic. But the why this is so problematic. But the why this is so problematic. But the proposed system introduces a capital proposed system introduces a capital proposed system introduces a capital growth tax where not only regular income growth tax where not only regular income growth tax where not only regular income like interest or dividends, rent, things like interest or dividends, rent, things like interest or dividends, rent, things like that are taxed annually. uh but like that are taxed annually. uh but like that are taxed annually. uh but also realized also realized also realized fine and unrealized fine and unrealized fine and unrealized tragedy of biblical proportions changes tragedy of biblical proportions changes tragedy of biblical proportions changes uh in asset value are taxed. So the uh in asset value are taxed. So the uh in asset value are taxed. So the proposed rate is a flat 36% on all proposed rate is a flat 36% on all proposed rate is a flat 36% on all taxable income within box 3. The bill taxable income within box 3. The bill taxable income within box 3. The bill was submitted in May of 25 and it's was submitted in May of 25 and it's was submitted in May of 25 and it's targeted to take effect on January 1st targeted to take effect on January 1st targeted to take effect on January 1st of 28, but only if Parliament approves of 28, but only if Parliament approves of 28, but only if Parliament approves it by March 15th. So my hope is that it by March 15th. So my hope is that it by March 15th. So my hope is that these guys pull their head out of their these guys pull their head out of their these guys pull their head out of their ass and just map out what this will do. ass and just map out what this will do. ass and just map out what this will do. Ma map out the logistics of how Ma map out the logistics of how Ma map out the logistics of how something like this works. The problem something like this works. The problem something like this works. The problem is the people proposing this either is the people proposing this either is the people proposing this either don't understand the logistics don't understand the logistics don't understand the logistics or they understand the logistics and or they understand the logistics and or they understand the logistics and literally want to destroy their own literally want to destroy their own literally want to destroy their own economy. This is all a stunning lack of economy. This is all a stunning lack of economy. This is all a stunning lack of understanding of how unrealized gain understanding of how unrealized gain understanding of how unrealized gain works or like I said potentially works or like I said potentially works or like I said potentially sinister. But this is like telling sinister. But this is like telling sinister. But this is like telling someone if they want to own a car, they someone if they want to own a car, they someone if they want to own a car, they have to give over the carburetor. have to give over the carburetor. have to give over the carburetor. To do that, you have to break apart the To do that, you have to break apart the To do that, you have to break apart the car to pay the fee for owning the car. car to pay the fee for owning the car. car to pay the fee for owning the car. It doesn't make any sense. Unrealized It doesn't make any sense. Unrealized It doesn't make any sense. Unrealized gains is just another word for potential gains is just another word for potential gains is just another word for potential gains. Maybe gains, but not actual gains. Maybe gains, but not actual gains. Maybe gains, but not actual gains. gains. gains. It's like if you think you might get a It's like if you think you might get a It's like if you think you might get a new job that pays more and so I start new job that pays more and so I start new job that pays more and so I start taxing you on the job you might get taxing you on the job you might get taxing you on the job you might get today. It is the wildest [ __ ] ever. today. It is the wildest [ __ ] ever. today. It is the wildest [ __ ] ever. To make the gains like if if you've got To make the gains like if if you've got To make the gains like if if you've got gains that are taxable gains that are taxable gains that are taxable by this law to have enough money to pay by this law to have enough money to pay by this law to have enough money to pay that actual tax you would have to sell that actual tax you would have to sell that actual tax you would have to sell the thing typically a company or the thing typically a company or the thing typically a company or something like that in order to pay the something like that in order to pay the something like that in order to pay the tax thus destroying the valuable thing. tax thus destroying the valuable thing. tax thus destroying the valuable thing. Now, there are important specifics to Now, there are important specifics to Now, there are important specifics to the proposal. I'll go through them the proposal. I'll go through them the proposal. I'll go through them because I want people to understand. I'm because I want people to understand. I'm because I want people to understand. I'm not saying what I'm saying because I'm not saying what I'm saying because I'm not saying what I'm saying because I'm confused. I'm saying what I'm saying confused. I'm saying what I'm saying confused. I'm saying what I'm saying because I'm looking at what they're because I'm looking at what they're because I'm looking at what they're doing, including all the caveats and the doing, including all the caveats and the doing, including all the caveats and the things that they're going to push aside. things that they're going to push aside. things that they're going to push aside. And this is still a catastrophe. So, And this is still a catastrophe. So, And this is still a catastrophe. So, real estate treated differently. Cool. real estate treated differently. Cool. real estate treated differently. Cool. So, you probably don't have to worry. Uh So, you probably don't have to worry. Uh So, you probably don't have to worry. Uh unlike other assets, real estate will unlike other assets, real estate will unlike other assets, real estate will not be taxed on unrealized gains. not be taxed on unrealized gains. not be taxed on unrealized gains. Literally, thank God. That definitely Literally, thank God. That definitely Literally, thank God. That definitely narrows the scope of the disaster here. narrows the scope of the disaster here. narrows the scope of the disaster here. Property owners only have to pay tax on Property owners only have to pay tax on Property owners only have to pay tax on gains when the property is sold or gains when the property is sold or gains when the property is sold or transferred as it should be because transferred as it should be because transferred as it should be because that's a realized gain. That makes that's a realized gain. That makes that's a realized gain. That makes sense. Startups share uh exempt status sense. Startups share uh exempt status sense. Startups share uh exempt status from annual unrealized gains uh under from annual unrealized gains uh under from annual unrealized gains uh under certain conditions. So if someone holds certain conditions. So if someone holds certain conditions. So if someone holds a small share under it's under 5% in a a small share under it's under 5% in a a small share under it's under 5% in a qualifying startup, qualifying is going qualifying startup, qualifying is going qualifying startup, qualifying is going to become important here. They're only to become important here. They're only to become important here. They're only taxed on dividends with capital gains taxed on dividends with capital gains taxed on dividends with capital gains taxed as sale. Again, as it should be, taxed as sale. Again, as it should be, taxed as sale. Again, as it should be, those are realized gains. Losses are those are realized gains. Losses are those are realized gains. Losses are deductible. Losses within box 3 can be deductible. Losses within box 3 can be deductible. Losses within box 3 can be carried forward indefinitely against carried forward indefinitely against carried forward indefinitely against future Box 3 income. They'll have future Box 3 income. They'll have future Box 3 income. They'll have caveats on that. I assure you, it's caveats on that. I assure you, it's caveats on that. I assure you, it's never as simple as it sounds. There's a never as simple as it sounds. There's a never as simple as it sounds. There's a tax-free threshold. The current taxfree tax-free threshold. The current taxfree tax-free threshold. The current taxfree capital threshold will be replaced by a capital threshold will be replaced by a capital threshold will be replaced by a tax-free income threshold of €1,800. tax-free income threshold of €1,800. tax-free income threshold of €1,800. Now, this is going to create real Now, this is going to create real Now, this is going to create real problems for companies with a certain problems for companies with a certain problems for companies with a certain type of investor. And this is what I type of investor. And this is what I type of investor. And this is what I want people to understand. The way that want people to understand. The way that want people to understand. The way that they define a startup becomes critical. they define a startup becomes critical. they define a startup becomes critical. It's a company making less than 30 It's a company making less than 30 It's a company making less than 30 million euro a year. And it's a company million euro a year. And it's a company million euro a year. And it's a company that's less than 5 years old. So, take that's less than 5 years old. So, take that's less than 5 years old. So, take Quest, the company that I built. We Quest, the company that I built. We Quest, the company that I built. We would have been in trouble. Not us would have been in trouble. Not us would have been in trouble. Not us because we were the three of us that because we were the three of us that because we were the three of us that founded it, but our investors would have founded it, but our investors would have founded it, but our investors would have been because our investors owned more been because our investors owned more been because our investors owned more than 5% of the company and the company than 5% of the company and the company than 5% of the company and the company had gone screaming up in value. And so had gone screaming up in value. And so had gone screaming up in value. And so now what do they do? They would now what do they do? They would now what do they do? They would obviously have to pressure us to take obviously have to pressure us to take obviously have to pressure us to take out a loan so that they could pay that out a loan so that they could pay that out a loan so that they could pay that back. They would have to take out a loan back. They would have to take out a loan back. They would have to take out a loan to pay that back or we would have to to pay that back or we would have to to pay that back or we would have to sell the company. All of which are sell the company. All of which are sell the company. All of which are terrible. terrible. terrible. So if you hold shares in a private So if you hold shares in a private So if you hold shares in a private company, you're not likely going to be company, you're not likely going to be company, you're not likely going to be able to sell those freely. Okay? So it's able to sell those freely. Okay? So it's able to sell those freely. Okay? So it's not like a public company where you can not like a public company where you can not like a public company where you can just sell a piece of it. There are just sell a piece of it. There are just sell a piece of it. There are usually shareholder agreements, transfer usually shareholder agreements, transfer usually shareholder agreements, transfer restrictions, right of first refusal restrictions, right of first refusal restrictions, right of first refusal clauses, and simply no liquid market for clauses, and simply no liquid market for clauses, and simply no liquid market for the shares. I won't say no liquid the shares. I won't say no liquid the shares. I won't say no liquid market, but it's they're not like they market, but it's they're not like they market, but it's they're not like they are in public markets. up by a lot. But are in public markets. up by a lot. But are in public markets. up by a lot. But once the startup exemption expires, you once the startup exemption expires, you once the startup exemption expires, you like if you cross that 30 million euro like if you cross that 30 million euro like if you cross that 30 million euro threshold, for instance, you now owe the threshold, for instance, you now owe the threshold, for instance, you now owe the 36% on potentially years of accumulated 36% on potentially years of accumulated 36% on potentially years of accumulated paper gains all in one hit. So all of paper gains all in one hit. So all of paper gains all in one hit. So all of the options are going to be bad. Like I the options are going to be bad. Like I the options are going to be bad. Like I said, you can take out a loan assuming said, you can take out a loan assuming said, you can take out a loan assuming that the bank will even lend against an that the bank will even lend against an that the bank will even lend against an illlquid private company share. So it's illlquid private company share. So it's illlquid private company share. So it's not even a guarantee that you're going not even a guarantee that you're going not even a guarantee that you're going to be able to do this. Most banks to be able to do this. Most banks to be able to do this. Most banks probably aren't going to do that because probably aren't going to do that because probably aren't going to do that because like I said, this is potential value. like I said, this is potential value. like I said, this is potential value. Anything could happen between here and Anything could happen between here and Anything could happen between here and there. And then you're paying interest there. And then you're paying interest there. And then you're paying interest on the borrowed money to cover a tax on the borrowed money to cover a tax on the borrowed money to cover a tax bill on income you haven't received. Not bill on income you haven't received. Not bill on income you haven't received. Not only have you not received it, you may only have you not received it, you may only have you not received it, you may never receive it. That's the part like never receive it. That's the part like never receive it. That's the part like this is the one where I'm like, if I this is the one where I'm like, if I this is the one where I'm like, if I could just get people to understand could just get people to understand could just get people to understand this, this would all be very simple. this, this would all be very simple. this, this would all be very simple. It's not real gains. You haven't made It's not real gains. You haven't made It's not real gains. You haven't made the money. It's not real. It's not real. the money. It's not real. It's not real. the money. It's not real. It's not real. You don't have the money. If you're You don't have the money. If you're You don't have the money. If you're worried that people hide behind not real worried that people hide behind not real worried that people hide behind not real gains and so they'll gamble to avoid gains and so they'll gamble to avoid gains and so they'll gamble to avoid paying tax off in the future, great. paying tax off in the future, great. paying tax off in the future, great. There are other ways that you can tax There are other ways that you can tax There are other ways that you can tax them to feel like, ah, cool. Like we them to feel like, ah, cool. Like we them to feel like, ah, cool. Like we stop people from hiding or doing tax stop people from hiding or doing tax stop people from hiding or doing tax evasion, whatever. Update the tax code. evasion, whatever. Update the tax code. evasion, whatever. Update the tax code. Simplify it. So many ways to make that Simplify it. So many ways to make that Simplify it. So many ways to make that easier. But to put people in this easier. But to put people in this easier. But to put people in this situation where they have to sell the situation where they have to sell the situation where they have to sell the very thing that is worth the thing, this very thing that is worth the thing, this very thing that is worth the thing, this is how you begin to erode your economy is how you begin to erode your economy is how you begin to erode your economy because people aren't going to make because people aren't going to make because people aren't going to make long-term plans. Why would you ever long-term plans. Why would you ever long-term plans. Why would you ever invest in more than 5% of a company when invest in more than 5% of a company when invest in more than 5% of a company when you know that you could find yourself in you know that you could find yourself in you know that you could find yourself in this position? It's absolutely this position? It's absolutely this position? It's absolutely ridiculous. And so ridiculous. And so ridiculous. And so when Kla Harris made that proposal here, when Kla Harris made that proposal here, when Kla Harris made that proposal here, I had the exact same reaction. This is I had the exact same reaction. This is I had the exact same reaction. This is somebody who's either sinister or somebody who's either sinister or somebody who's either sinister or completely economically illiterate. completely economically illiterate. completely economically illiterate. Neither one of those is acceptable. They Neither one of those is acceptable. They Neither one of those is acceptable. They have real world consequences. And I know have real world consequences. And I know have real world consequences. And I know people, we've lived in prosperity for so people, we've lived in prosperity for so people, we've lived in prosperity for so long now that we think that it's just a long now that we think that it's just a long now that we think that it's just a natural law. And so just tax, tax, tax, natural law. And so just tax, tax, tax, natural law. And so just tax, tax, tax, tax, tax. Uh it doesn't work like that. tax, tax. Uh it doesn't work like that. tax, tax. Uh it doesn't work like that. It does not work like that. Like at the It does not work like that. Like at the It does not work like that. Like at the level of the physics of money. And so level of the physics of money. And so level of the physics of money. And so yeah, this one's wild. They'll run a yeah, this one's wild. They'll run a yeah, this one's wild. They'll run a natural experiment for us if this passes natural experiment for us if this passes natural experiment for us if this passes and we'll get to see it in real time. and we'll get to see it in real time. and we'll get to see it in real time. So, okay, So, okay, So, okay, >> this is something that's been gaining >> this is something that's been gaining >> this is something that's been gaining traction for a while. Um, but I still traction for a while. Um, but I still traction for a while. Um, but I still think people don't actually understand think people don't actually understand think people don't actually understand what it means cuz a lot of people are what it means cuz a lot of people are what it means cuz a lot of people are just like, "Oh, this is a rich guy just like, "Oh, this is a rich guy just like, "Oh, this is a rich guy trying to avoid his taxes." trying to avoid his taxes." trying to avoid his taxes." >> They just go, "Do I have unrealized >> They just go, "Do I have unrealized >> They just go, "Do I have unrealized gains?" No, cool. I don't care. Tax gains?" No, cool. I don't care. Tax gains?" No, cool. I don't care. Tax them. them. them. >> So, I I feel like this is like important >> So, I I feel like this is like important >> So, I I feel like this is like important because this is like a good example that because this is like a good example that because this is like a good example that Let's Let's do it. This is the white Let's Let's do it. This is the white Let's Let's do it. This is the white whiteboard session about unrealized whiteboard session about unrealized whiteboard session about unrealized gains. Okay. Let's say January 1st, gains. Okay. Let's say January 1st, gains. Okay. Let's say January 1st, 2028, you have €50. 2028, you have €50. 2028, you have €50. >> Yep. The value as of January 1st, 2029 >> Yep. The value as of January 1st, 2029 >> Yep. The value as of January 1st, 2029 is €100,000. is €100,000. is €100,000. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> All right. On So on paper, your gain is >> All right. On So on paper, your gain is >> All right. On So on paper, your gain is 50,000. That's an unrealized gain. You 50,000. That's an unrealized gain. You 50,000. That's an unrealized gain. You didn't sell anything. It's been in the didn't sell anything. It's been in the didn't sell anything. It's been in the equity market the exact same time. You equity market the exact same time. You equity market the exact same time. You didn't do anything. You just went from didn't do anything. You just went from didn't do anything. You just went from 50 to 100. Boom. You quote unquote made 50 to 100. Boom. You quote unquote made 50 to 100. Boom. You quote unquote made 50,000 in unrealized gains. Now, um, 50,000 in unrealized gains. Now, um, 50,000 in unrealized gains. Now, um, you're married, you get the exception, you're married, you get the exception, you're married, you get the exception, 3,600. We do all the math. You have 4600 3,600. We do all the math. You have 4600 3,600. We do all the math. You have 4600 46,400 as your taxable amount. That's 46,400 as your taxable amount. That's 46,400 as your taxable amount. That's the exception minus your unrealized the exception minus your unrealized the exception minus your unrealized gains. Now, based on this tax bill, 36%, gains. Now, based on this tax bill, 36%, gains. Now, based on this tax bill, 36%, you would owe $16,000 in your tax bill you would owe $16,000 in your tax bill you would owe $16,000 in your tax bill from this unrealized gains. But now, from this unrealized gains. But now, from this unrealized gains. But now, let's say the bill is due in May and the let's say the bill is due in May and the let's say the bill is due in May and the market falls. Now, your new value is market falls. Now, your new value is market falls. Now, your new value is 60K. So, your portfolio, your portfolio 60K. So, your portfolio, your portfolio 60K. So, your portfolio, your portfolio is no longer worth that 100K, just like is no longer worth that 100K, just like is no longer worth that 100K, just like Bitcoin is going down as we seen it. It Bitcoin is going down as we seen it. It Bitcoin is going down as we seen it. It went from 125 to 60,000. That's a 50% went from 125 to 60,000. That's a 50% went from 125 to 60,000. That's a 50% reduction. So, you were at 50, you went reduction. So, you were at 50, you went reduction. So, you were at 50, you went to 100, now you're back at 60. Your tax to 100, now you're back at 60. Your tax to 100, now you're back at 60. Your tax bill is still 16,000. So you would have bill is still 16,000. So you would have bill is still 16,000. So you would have to sell 16,000 of that of uh in shares to sell 16,000 of that of uh in shares to sell 16,000 of that of uh in shares in order to pay your tax bill and you in order to pay your tax bill and you in order to pay your tax bill and you would end up with 43,296. would end up with 43,296. would end up with 43,296. So instead of appreciating you are now So instead of appreciating you are now So instead of appreciating you are now going negative because you had to pay a going negative because you had to pay a going negative because you had to pay a tax bill on a gain that you never tax bill on a gain that you never tax bill on a gain that you never actually realized. So this is why actually realized. So this is why actually realized. So this is why unrealized gains is a little bit weird. unrealized gains is a little bit weird. unrealized gains is a little bit weird. Um Um Um >> not a little bit weird, why it is >> not a little bit weird, why it is >> not a little bit weird, why it is absolutely destructive. absolutely destructive. absolutely destructive. >> What I propose is what everybody is >> What I propose is what everybody is >> What I propose is what everybody is saying is that well okay let's look at saying is that well okay let's look at saying is that well okay let's look at Elon. He's worth a billion dollars on Elon. He's worth a billion dollars on Elon. He's worth a billion dollars on unrealized gains and he just takes loans unrealized gains and he just takes loans unrealized gains and he just takes loans from that and he doesn't get paid and he from that and he doesn't get paid and he from that and he doesn't get paid and he doesn't pay taxes. doesn't pay taxes. doesn't pay taxes. >> So why don't we tax the loans against >> So why don't we tax the loans against >> So why don't we tax the loans against stocks or let's tax the money that stocks or let's tax the money that stocks or let's tax the money that actually hits his account. But taxing actually hits his account. But taxing actually hits his account. But taxing the phantom money in the market is where the phantom money in the market is where the phantom money in the market is where you're going to end up penalizing you're going to end up penalizing you're going to end up penalizing average investors as opposed to getting average investors as opposed to getting average investors as opposed to getting the big guys that you guys think this the big guys that you guys think this the big guys that you guys think this tax will do. you would have to put very tax will do. you would have to put very tax will do. you would have to put very thoughtful restrictions around that. thoughtful restrictions around that. thoughtful restrictions around that. Otherwise, you get uh essentially double Otherwise, you get uh essentially double Otherwise, you get uh essentially double um interest payments on that or double um interest payments on that or double um interest payments on that or double tax, however you want to look at it. But tax, however you want to look at it. But tax, however you want to look at it. But yes, that would be far smarter than yes, that would be far smarter than yes, that would be far smarter than charging somebody money on money that charging somebody money on money that charging somebody money on money that they don't have. Like it it is crazy. they don't have. Like it it is crazy. they don't have. Like it it is crazy. And if we can all agree that for And if we can all agree that for And if we can all agree that for instance, fewer jobs get created when instance, fewer jobs get created when instance, fewer jobs get created when we're in a recession, uh you can imagine we're in a recession, uh you can imagine we're in a recession, uh you can imagine how many fewer jobs are going to get how many fewer jobs are going to get how many fewer jobs are going to get created when people are being taxed on created when people are being taxed on created when people are being taxed on money that they don't have and they're money that they don't have and they're money that they don't have and they're having to sell things to um realize the having to sell things to um realize the having to sell things to um realize the tax bill. It's going to completely tax bill. It's going to completely tax bill. It's going to completely change people's behavior and not in a change people's behavior and not in a change people's behavior and not in a way that grows companies, in a way that way that grows companies, in a way that way that grows companies, in a way that slows companies or stops the incentive slows companies or stops the incentive slows companies or stops the incentive to start a company in the first place to start a company in the first place to start a company in the first place because you're going to go out. because you're going to go out. because you're going to go out. Remember, most companies, most big Remember, most companies, most big Remember, most companies, most big companies, I should say, most companies companies, I should say, most companies companies, I should say, most companies that get big, they don't start off that get big, they don't start off that get big, they don't start off bootstrap. They start off raising bootstrap. They start off raising bootstrap. They start off raising capital. And if you're raising capital, capital. And if you're raising capital, capital. And if you're raising capital, this is going to completely change that. this is going to completely change that. this is going to completely change that. And so, the current world that you're And so, the current world that you're And so, the current world that you're living in is brought to you by the living in is brought to you by the living in is brought to you by the ability to aggregate capital. All the ability to aggregate capital. All the ability to aggregate capital. All the big beautiful buildings that you see, big beautiful buildings that you see, big beautiful buildings that you see, all the safety that you enjoy, all of all the safety that you enjoy, all of all the safety that you enjoy, all of that is a result of the ability to that is a result of the ability to that is a result of the ability to aggregate capital. Now, if you really aggregate capital. Now, if you really aggregate capital. Now, if you really want to pressure people to do the right want to pressure people to do the right want to pressure people to do the right thing, you would press them on making thing, you would press them on making thing, you would press them on making money sound so that you can't print money sound so that you can't print money sound so that you can't print money and steal it from the poor and money and steal it from the poor and money and steal it from the poor and working class. So, you could stop the working class. So, you could stop the working class. So, you could stop the K-shaped economy. So, you could K-shaped economy. So, you could K-shaped economy. So, you could dramatically dramatically dramatically reduce the right thing that people reduce the right thing that people reduce the right thing that people should be focusing on, which is the should be focusing on, which is the should be focusing on, which is the intolerable level of inequality as intolerable level of inequality as intolerable level of inequality as separated from normal desirable separated from normal desirable separated from normal desirable inequality. inequality. inequality. intolerable inequality is a category intolerable inequality is a category intolerable inequality is a category unto itself uh which we are currently in unto itself uh which we are currently in unto itself uh which we are currently in that we should be going after with that we should be going after with that we should be going after with everything we have but that has to do everything we have but that has to do everything we have but that has to do with central banks that has to do with with central banks that has to do with with central banks that has to do with money printing uh bank bailouts things money printing uh bank bailouts things money printing uh bank bailouts things like that it does not have to do with like that it does not have to do with like that it does not have to do with making sure that we gobble up every tax making sure that we gobble up every tax making sure that we gobble up every tax dollar that we can which of course the dollar that we can which of course the dollar that we can which of course the higher you press uh tax rates laughers higher you press uh tax rates laughers higher you press uh tax rates laughers curve shows you that your actual curve shows you that your actual curve shows you that your actual recouped tax dollars go down recouped tax dollars go down recouped tax dollars go down >> how should we actually fix the tax >> how should we actually fix the tax >> how should we actually fix the tax policy like I know. policy like I know. policy like I know. >> Do one flat tax on everybody no matter >> Do one flat tax on everybody no matter >> Do one flat tax on everybody no matter what what what >> on realized gains. >> on realized gains. >> on realized gains. >> So everybody pays 15% like what? >> So everybody pays 15% like what? >> So everybody pays 15% like what? >> Yep. The tax code is literally everybody >> Yep. The tax code is literally everybody >> Yep. The tax code is literally everybody pays 32% whatever pays 32% whatever pays 32% whatever >> in your realized gains. >> in your realized gains. >> in your realized gains. >> Okay. So >> Okay. So >> Okay. So >> done. >> done. >> done. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> There's no loophole for you. Oh, you >> There's no loophole for you. Oh, you >> There's no loophole for you. Oh, you just uh just uh just uh >> tax bill is one page 32%. If if you are >> tax bill is one page 32%. If if you are >> tax bill is one page 32%. If if you are a resident of America, you pay 32% of a resident of America, you pay 32% of a resident of America, you pay 32% of what what what >> is correct. You made a $1.52. I mean, >> is correct. You made a $1.52. I mean, >> is correct. You made a $1.52. I mean, you probably put some sort of very you probably put some sort of very you probably put some sort of very [laughter] very very low minimum [laughter] very very low minimum [laughter] very very low minimum threshold. Uh, let's say you put your threshold. Uh, let's say you put your threshold. Uh, let's say you put your minimum threshold at like 25 grand and minimum threshold at like 25 grand and minimum threshold at like 25 grand and cool. Anybody above that number, you're cool. Anybody above that number, you're cool. Anybody above that number, you're going to pay whatever percent of your going to pay whatever percent of your going to pay whatever percent of your tax. It just is what it is. tax. It just is what it is. tax. It just is what it is. >> Do Yeah, that's not going to happen. >> Do Yeah, that's not going to happen. >> Do Yeah, that's not going to happen. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> It's not going to happen. >> It's not going to happen. >> It's not going to happen. >> I started typing it in. I was like, >> I started typing it in. I was like, >> I started typing it in. I was like, yeah, that that would be that would be a yeah, that that would be that would be a yeah, that that would be that would be a thing. thing. thing. >> My wife is sneaking in. [laughter] >> My wife is sneaking in. [laughter] >> My wife is sneaking in. [laughter] >> That's what distracted me. Right. >> That's what distracted me. Right. >> That's what distracted me. Right. >> I was like, is she walking over here? >> I was like, is she walking over here? >> I was like, is she walking over here? Like, is she Like, is she Like, is she >> I thought she was about to hop in. >> I thought she was about to hop in. >> I thought she was about to hop in. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I thought on on an economic day. >> I thought on on an economic day. >> I thought on on an economic day. >> She was ready for the unrealized gains >> She was ready for the unrealized gains >> She was ready for the unrealized gains conversation. conversation. conversation. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh, okay. Um, >> Uh, okay. Um, >> Uh, okay. Um, AI has been doing a lots of crazy AI has been doing a lots of crazy AI has been doing a lots of crazy things. things. things. >> I know we're going to talk about all the >> I know we're going to talk about all the >> I know we're going to talk about all the great things that is happening to it, great things that is happening to it, great things that is happening to it, but I want to start negative because we but I want to start negative because we but I want to start negative because we were talking about unrealized gains and were talking about unrealized gains and were talking about unrealized gains and things like that. Um, this is something things like that. Um, this is something things like that. Um, this is something that Naval tweeted me that literally that Naval tweeted me that literally that Naval tweeted me that literally made me stop and like look in the made me stop and like look in the made me stop and like look in the mirror. All of the American AI companies mirror. All of the American AI companies mirror. All of the American AI companies talk about sharing the wealth. UBI, Age talk about sharing the wealth. UBI, Age talk about sharing the wealth. UBI, Age of Abundance, but all the top open of Abundance, but all the top open of Abundance, but all the top open source models are Chinese. >> It's interesting. I think you and I read >> It's interesting. I think you and I read that very differently. that very differently. that very differently. >> Okay. How do you cuz I thought I was >> Okay. How do you cuz I thought I was >> Okay. How do you cuz I thought I was like, wait, that is very interesting like, wait, that is very interesting like, wait, that is very interesting that what do you that what do you that what do you >> So, okay. I'm China. I know that I've >> So, okay. I'm China. I know that I've >> So, okay. I'm China. I know that I've got somebody sitting in all of these got somebody sitting in all of these got somebody sitting in all of these companies that is um can tell them turn companies that is um can tell them turn companies that is um can tell them turn on turn off the openness of this on turn off the openness of this on turn off the openness of this whenever I want. I'm looking over at the whenever I want. I'm looking over at the whenever I want. I'm looking over at the US and I'm like oh you guys are making US and I'm like oh you guys are making US and I'm like oh you guys are making big bets on AI. Great. I'm going to [ __ ] big bets on AI. Great. I'm going to [ __ ] big bets on AI. Great. I'm going to [ __ ] up your entire economy because basically up your entire economy because basically up your entire economy because basically you all you guys have been is a stock you all you guys have been is a stock you all you guys have been is a stock market of tech companies and now not market of tech companies and now not market of tech companies and now not only are you just a stock market of tech only are you just a stock market of tech only are you just a stock market of tech companies, you're just a stock market of companies, you're just a stock market of companies, you're just a stock market of AI tech companies. And so I'm going to AI tech companies. And so I'm going to AI tech companies. And so I'm going to make this open source. Oh, PS, by the make this open source. Oh, PS, by the make this open source. Oh, PS, by the way. Um, if I can get more people using way. Um, if I can get more people using way. Um, if I can get more people using our like services, then it's like, oh, our like services, then it's like, oh, our like services, then it's like, oh, cool. You're now used to using this one. cool. You're now used to using this one. cool. You're now used to using this one. Oh, by the way, to get the latest Oh, by the way, to get the latest Oh, by the way, to get the latest update, you're now going to need to pay. update, you're now going to need to pay. update, you're now going to need to pay. Like this is the this is a great Like this is the this is a great Like this is the this is a great strategy. You give something to somebody strategy. You give something to somebody strategy. You give something to somebody for free and then you introduce ads or for free and then you introduce ads or for free and then you introduce ads or you introduce whatever. But keep in mind you introduce whatever. But keep in mind you introduce whatever. But keep in mind whatever model you make open source whatever model you make open source whatever model you make open source today is going to be obsolete in 6 today is going to be obsolete in 6 today is going to be obsolete in 6 months maybe less. So X is not a fool. months maybe less. So X is not a fool. months maybe less. So X is not a fool. Yeah, go ahead make make these all open Yeah, go ahead make make these all open Yeah, go ahead make make these all open source and at any time when I decide I'm source and at any time when I decide I'm source and at any time when I decide I'm going to lock it down and then if you going to lock it down and then if you going to lock it down and then if you want anything else that's moving forward want anything else that's moving forward want anything else that's moving forward that's going to be um our thing. Now that's going to be um our thing. Now that's going to be um our thing. Now >> assuming that the code can be validated >> assuming that the code can be validated >> assuming that the code can be validated and it's not creating some sort of and it's not creating some sort of and it's not creating some sort of backend where it's just filtering backend where it's just filtering backend where it's just filtering everything back to China. If you can get everything back to China. If you can get everything back to China. If you can get an awesome uh open source model right an awesome uh open source model right an awesome uh open source model right now today and run it locally, that's now today and run it locally, that's now today and run it locally, that's awesome. So, it's like even if we're a awesome. So, it's like even if we're a awesome. So, it's like even if we're a momentary pawn in a game that will play momentary pawn in a game that will play momentary pawn in a game that will play out down the road, if we can validate out down the road, if we can validate out down the road, if we can validate the security of the technology, use it the security of the technology, use it the security of the technology, use it like integrate it, put it into whatever like integrate it, put it into whatever like integrate it, put it into whatever you're trying to build. Absolutely. So, you're trying to build. Absolutely. So, you're trying to build. Absolutely. So, um just don't be confused that um just don't be confused that um just don't be confused that Xi's a control freak. M Xi's a control freak. M Xi's a control freak. M >> X's whole life model is um if people >> X's whole life model is um if people >> X's whole life model is um if people aren't doing what you say that you can aren't doing what you say that you can aren't doing what you say that you can make enough of them disappear, go to make enough of them disappear, go to make enough of them disappear, go to prison, or just outright kill them and prison, or just outright kill them and prison, or just outright kill them and everybody else falls back in line. And everybody else falls back in line. And everybody else falls back in line. And so what do you think that guy's going to so what do you think that guy's going to so what do you think that guy's going to do at the level of AI or economics? Like do at the level of AI or economics? Like do at the level of AI or economics? Like huh? So if people are confused, I would huh? So if people are confused, I would huh? So if people are confused, I would say you should probably take a closer say you should probably take a closer say you should probably take a closer look at X's actual behavior. All right, look at X's actual behavior. All right, look at X's actual behavior. All right, let me take it one step further. Um, in let me take it one step further. Um, in let me take it one step further. Um, in the age of abundance where we are the age of abundance where we are the age of abundance where we are assuming that when all the robots are assuming that when all the robots are assuming that when all the robots are out and all the AI companies are out and all the AI companies are out and all the AI companies are proliferated into society, we're going proliferated into society, we're going proliferated into society, we're going to be able to just give checks to people to be able to just give checks to people to be able to just give checks to people and take care of people. In our current and take care of people. In our current and take care of people. In our current political political political >> wouldn't give checks, but yes. >> wouldn't give checks, but yes. >> wouldn't give checks, but yes. >> Or services. >> Or services. >> Or services. >> I think it's going to be more like that. >> I think it's going to be more like that. >> I think it's going to be more like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. We'll give services to people. Um, >> Okay. We'll give services to people. Um, >> Okay. We'll give services to people. Um, in our current political climate where in our current political climate where in our current political climate where people hate taxation, um, the people on people hate taxation, um, the people on people hate taxation, um, the people on the left think the rich are paying their the left think the rich are paying their the left think the rich are paying their fair share. The people on the right fair share. The people on the right fair share. The people on the right think that they shouldn't pay anything. think that they shouldn't pay anything. think that they shouldn't pay anything. Um, where I'm just tax cuts. They should Um, where I'm just tax cuts. They should Um, where I'm just tax cuts. They should you should be paying as few taxes as you should be paying as few taxes as you should be paying as few taxes as possible. I'm trying to oversimplify to possible. I'm trying to oversimplify to possible. I'm trying to oversimplify to get to my actual question. get to my actual question. get to my actual question. >> Um, the welfare state is overrown. We >> Um, the welfare state is overrown. We >> Um, the welfare state is overrown. We need to cut Medicare. We need to cut need to cut Medicare. We need to cut need to cut Medicare. We need to cut welfare. We shouldn't be on social welfare. We shouldn't be on social welfare. We shouldn't be on social security. All these things. What do you security. All these things. What do you security. All these things. What do you think is going to be necessary to happen think is going to be necessary to happen think is going to be necessary to happen that makes us go from a individual you that makes us go from a individual you that makes us go from a individual you could do it yourself society to now I'm could do it yourself society to now I'm could do it yourself society to now I'm taking care of you and taking care of you and taking care of you and >> it's already happened >> it's already happened >> it's already happened >> in what way? >> in what way? >> in what way? >> 50% of Americans are on some sort of >> 50% of Americans are on some sort of >> 50% of Americans are on some sort of public service public service public service >> and I feel like 50% of politicians hate >> and I feel like 50% of politicians hate >> and I feel like 50% of politicians hate that. that. that. >> Sure. But the reality is that 50% of >> Sure. But the reality is that 50% of >> Sure. But the reality is that 50% of people are on those services already. We people are on those services already. We people are on those services already. We are a gigantic welfare state and our are a gigantic welfare state and our are a gigantic welfare state and our cultural identity is that of we don't cultural identity is that of we don't cultural identity is that of we don't take care of our people. It's wild. take care of our people. It's wild. take care of our people. It's wild. Um so I think that we've already lost Um so I think that we've already lost Um so I think that we've already lost that battle. So when I wrote this was that battle. So when I wrote this was that battle. So when I wrote this was 13 years ago roughly. Uh I wrote what 13 years ago roughly. Uh I wrote what 13 years ago roughly. Uh I wrote what what really felt like sincerely me what really felt like sincerely me what really felt like sincerely me trying to give people the very secret trying to give people the very secret trying to give people the very secret thing that had allowed me to become thing that had allowed me to become thing that had allowed me to become successful from nowhere USA. Parents successful from nowhere USA. Parents successful from nowhere USA. Parents that had no connections, parents that um that had no connections, parents that um that had no connections, parents that um did not understand entrepreneurship. did not understand entrepreneurship. did not understand entrepreneurship. Nobody taught me to be an entrepreneur, Nobody taught me to be an entrepreneur, Nobody taught me to be an entrepreneur, nothing literally. But coming from that nothing literally. But coming from that nothing literally. But coming from that background, nonetheless, ended up being background, nonetheless, ended up being background, nonetheless, ended up being very successful. And I was like, what very successful. And I was like, what very successful. And I was like, what did make me successful? And I wrote this did make me successful? And I wrote this did make me successful? And I wrote this blog article. Uh, and the headline of blog article. Uh, and the headline of blog article. Uh, and the headline of the blog article was, um, if you're hit the blog article was, um, if you're hit the blog article was, um, if you're hit by a drunk driver, it's all your fault. by a drunk driver, it's all your fault. by a drunk driver, it's all your fault. And I expected people to be like, oh my And I expected people to be like, oh my And I expected people to be like, oh my god, this is brilliant. How insightful. god, this is brilliant. How insightful. god, this is brilliant. How insightful. Thank you so much. And they lost their Thank you so much. And they lost their Thank you so much. And they lost their ever loving minds. And I was like, I was ever loving minds. And I was like, I was ever loving minds. And I was like, I was so taken back. I could not at the time I so taken back. I could not at the time I so taken back. I could not at the time I had not fully developed my ideas around had not fully developed my ideas around had not fully developed my ideas around uh point of reference or um frame of uh point of reference or um frame of uh point of reference or um frame of reference and so I was so confused. reference and so I was so confused. reference and so I was so confused. >> The reason I was confused was we've >> The reason I was confused was we've >> The reason I was confused was we've already gone to that. The cultural already gone to that. The cultural already gone to that. The cultural energy is not about personal energy is not about personal energy is not about personal responsibility. Hey, not only should it responsibility. Hey, not only should it responsibility. Hey, not only should it be legal for you to work 12 hours a day, be legal for you to work 12 hours a day, be legal for you to work 12 hours a day, if you're the kind of person that puts if you're the kind of person that puts if you're the kind of person that puts in that hustle, good on you. That's in that hustle, good on you. That's in that hustle, good on you. That's amazing. We want to see more of that. We amazing. We want to see more of that. We amazing. We want to see more of that. We want to see people just go ultra hard. want to see people just go ultra hard. want to see people just go ultra hard. We want to see people in their careers We want to see people in their careers We want to see people in their careers act like Tom Brady in his football act like Tom Brady in his football act like Tom Brady in his football career. Like you might be an accountant, career. Like you might be an accountant, career. Like you might be an accountant, but come on. Like play like Tom Brady's but come on. Like play like Tom Brady's but come on. Like play like Tom Brady's >> Tom Brady of accountants. >> Tom Brady of accountants. >> Tom Brady of accountants. >> Exactly. And so that's how I came up. So >> Exactly. And so that's how I came up. So >> Exactly. And so that's how I came up. So I didn't realize like how much American I didn't realize like how much American I didn't realize like how much American culture had raced away from that. And so culture had raced away from that. And so culture had raced away from that. And so we're now in a place where if I put out we're now in a place where if I put out we're now in a place where if I put out a video about um hustle culture, it's a video about um hustle culture, it's a video about um hustle culture, it's going to get drugged all over the place going to get drugged all over the place going to get drugged all over the place for being toxic and out of touch and all for being toxic and out of touch and all for being toxic and out of touch and all that stuff. And I'm just like, nope. that stuff. And I'm just like, nope. that stuff. And I'm just like, nope. This is in alignment with the realities This is in alignment with the realities This is in alignment with the realities of the human condition. of the human condition. of the human condition. >> And the realities of the human condition >> And the realities of the human condition >> And the realities of the human condition are that this is a world of naked power. are that this is a world of naked power. are that this is a world of naked power. And the fact that power has gone And the fact that power has gone And the fact that power has gone underground doesn't mean that you're not underground doesn't mean that you're not underground doesn't mean that you're not still being controlled by power. So still being controlled by power. So still being controlled by power. So that's where I'm very confused with that's where I'm very confused with that's where I'm very confused with people's read on all of this stuff. And people's read on all of this stuff. And people's read on all of this stuff. And so if we can reorient people to that, I so if we can reorient people to that, I so if we can reorient people to that, I think we'd be in much better shape. But think we'd be in much better shape. But think we'd be in much better shape. But to bring it back to the actual question, to bring it back to the actual question, to bring it back to the actual question, we're already there. We have already we're already there. We have already we're already there. We have already stopped being a country of um hard work stopped being a country of um hard work stopped being a country of um hard work is going to get you ahead. is going to get you ahead. is going to get you ahead. >> Some people believe it, but it's not how >> Some people believe it, but it's not how >> Some people believe it, but it's not how we're organized at the government level. we're organized at the government level. we're organized at the government level. Uh it's not culturally what has the Uh it's not culturally what has the Uh it's not culturally what has the energy. Um, so from that perspective, energy. Um, so from that perspective, energy. Um, so from that perspective, and this is a big part of why the story and this is a big part of why the story and this is a big part of why the story that I want to tell in Kaizen is very that I want to tell in Kaizen is very that I want to tell in Kaizen is very simple. If you put time and energy into simple. If you put time and energy into simple. If you put time and energy into getting better at something, getting better at something, getting better at something, >> also known as hard work, that you'll >> also known as hard work, that you'll >> also known as hard work, that you'll actually get better. So the punchline of actually get better. So the punchline of actually get better. So the punchline of my entire life philosophy is hard work my entire life philosophy is hard work my entire life philosophy is hard work yields results. And that's just anathema yields results. And that's just anathema yields results. And that's just anathema to where we are as a society right now. to where we are as a society right now. to where we are as a society right now. >> Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Okay, I >> Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Okay, I >> Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Okay, I want to keep this uh momentum going. want to keep this uh momentum going. want to keep this uh momentum going. There has been um reports that were There has been um reports that were There has been um reports that were going from Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa going from Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa going from Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Sullyman who says that most if not all Sullyman who says that most if not all Sullyman who says that most if not all professional task undertaken by white professional task undertaken by white professional task undertaken by white collar workers will be fully automated collar workers will be fully automated collar workers will be fully automated by AI within 12 to 18 months. by AI within 12 to 18 months. by AI within 12 to 18 months. >> Um I want to put a crazy asterk on that. >> Um I want to put a crazy asterk on that. >> Um I want to put a crazy asterk on that. Uh switch back uh Eric um because he has Uh switch back uh Eric um because he has Uh switch back uh Eric um because he has been wrong in the past. Um, somebody dug been wrong in the past. Um, somebody dug been wrong in the past. Um, somebody dug his older tweets, uh, you can throw it his older tweets, uh, you can throw it his older tweets, uh, you can throw it back up and said in 2023 he said, uh, back up and said in 2023 he said, uh, back up and said in 2023 he said, uh, LLM hallucinations will be largely LLM hallucinations will be largely LLM hallucinations will be largely eliminated by 2025. And somebody says, eliminated by 2025. And somebody says, eliminated by 2025. And somebody says, how did this work out for you? So, he is how did this work out for you? So, he is how did this work out for you? So, he is getting like community noted about like getting like community noted about like getting like community noted about like his predictions, but I think his predictions, but I think his predictions, but I think directionally we can still say that directionally we can still say that directionally we can still say that white collar jobs aren't safe, quote white collar jobs aren't safe, quote white collar jobs aren't safe, quote unquote. unquote. unquote. >> I don't trust my emotions, so I know I >> I don't trust my emotions, so I know I >> I don't trust my emotions, so I know I shouldn't. But when I hear things like, shouldn't. But when I hear things like, shouldn't. But when I hear things like, uh, how'd that work out for you uh, how'd that work out for you uh, how'd that work out for you regarding hallucinations? I want to tip regarding hallucinations? I want to tip regarding hallucinations? I want to tip this table over and scream into the this table over and scream into the this table over and scream into the microphone, bite the fur like off my and microphone, bite the fur like off my and microphone, bite the fur like off my and literally just lose my [ __ ] mind. And literally just lose my [ __ ] mind. And literally just lose my [ __ ] mind. And it comes from a place of I I have found it comes from a place of I I have found it comes from a place of I I have found so much utility in trying to make so much utility in trying to make so much utility in trying to make contact with the way the world actually contact with the way the world actually contact with the way the world actually is. Not try to win an argument, not try is. Not try to win an argument, not try is. Not try to win an argument, not try to be right, but just like, okay, to be right, but just like, okay, to be right, but just like, okay, really, where's this stuff going? really, where's this stuff going? really, where's this stuff going? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh if if Gary Gary's underlying base >> Uh if if Gary Gary's underlying base >> Uh if if Gary Gary's underlying base assumption is AI is not making progress. assumption is AI is not making progress. assumption is AI is not making progress. >> Gary, don't be a [ __ ] So obviously AI >> Gary, don't be a [ __ ] So obviously AI >> Gary, don't be a [ __ ] So obviously AI is not only making progress, it's making is not only making progress, it's making is not only making progress, it's making progress at a rate that is completely progress at a rate that is completely progress at a rate that is completely [ __ ] up the markets because [ __ ] up the markets because [ __ ] up the markets because everybody's mental model of the world is everybody's mental model of the world is everybody's mental model of the world is blowing to [ __ ] So what I would love to blowing to [ __ ] So what I would love to blowing to [ __ ] So what I would love to see from Gary and all the Garry's out see from Gary and all the Garry's out see from Gary and all the Garry's out there is okay, I think 12 to 18 months there is okay, I think 12 to 18 months there is okay, I think 12 to 18 months is probably a little aggressive just is probably a little aggressive just is probably a little aggressive just like in 25 we were still struggling with like in 25 we were still struggling with like in 25 we were still struggling with hallucinations, but now in 26 it really hallucinations, but now in 26 it really hallucinations, but now in 26 it really does feel like it hallucinates a lot does feel like it hallucinates a lot does feel like it hallucinates a lot less. It's not zero, but it's a lot less. It's not zero, but it's a lot less. It's not zero, but it's a lot less. And I can feel the direction of less. And I can feel the direction of less. And I can feel the direction of movement. Oh, and as Gary, I would like movement. Oh, and as Gary, I would like movement. Oh, and as Gary, I would like to point out that historically all of to point out that historically all of to point out that historically all of these trends follow a really knowable these trends follow a really knowable these trends follow a really knowable curve where they go through this period curve where they go through this period curve where they go through this period of deceptive growth where we get past of deceptive growth where we get past of deceptive growth where we get past the initial hype, we come down the the initial hype, we come down the the initial hype, we come down the trough of disillusionment where people trough of disillusionment where people trough of disillusionment where people think, "Oh, this is never going to think, "Oh, this is never going to think, "Oh, this is never going to happen." But all the tech people are happen." But all the tech people are happen." But all the tech people are like, "Uh, I know I understand like, "Uh, I know I understand like, "Uh, I know I understand exponentials." And so while doubling exponentials." And so while doubling exponentials." And so while doubling from 2 to 4, 4 to 8, 8 to 16 doesn't from 2 to 4, 4 to 8, 8 to 16 doesn't from 2 to 4, 4 to 8, 8 to 16 doesn't seem very impressive, seem very impressive, seem very impressive, doubling from uh 12 million to 24 doubling from uh 12 million to 24 doubling from uh 12 million to 24 million in a month, all of a sudden million in a month, all of a sudden million in a month, all of a sudden that's [ __ ] real. And so that will that's [ __ ] real. And so that will that's [ __ ] real. And so that will happen. This technology does not yet happen. This technology does not yet happen. This technology does not yet show any signs of asmmptoing anytime show any signs of asmmptoing anytime show any signs of asmmptoing anytime soon. So when people put that out into soon. So when people put that out into soon. So when people put that out into the world like, haha, this guy's a the world like, haha, this guy's a the world like, haha, this guy's a buffoon because he missed his buffoon because he missed his buffoon because he missed his predictions around um when the predictions around um when the predictions around um when the hallucinations would be largely reduced hallucinations would be largely reduced hallucinations would be largely reduced by six months. It's like what a buffoon. by six months. It's like what a buffoon. by six months. It's like what a buffoon. That's like people that say, "Well, Elon That's like people that say, "Well, Elon That's like people that say, "Well, Elon Musk is always wrong about the Musk is always wrong about the Musk is always wrong about the timelines." Yeah, he is. But he's also timelines." Yeah, he is. But he's also timelines." Yeah, he is. But he's also the guy that has um built rockets that the guy that has um built rockets that the guy that has um built rockets that get caught by chopsticks. Uh has put get caught by chopsticks. Uh has put get caught by chopsticks. Uh has put more mass into space by orders of more mass into space by orders of more mass into space by orders of magnitude than anyone ever in human magnitude than anyone ever in human magnitude than anyone ever in human history, including governments. um the history, including governments. um the history, including governments. um the guy that now is aiming at landing on the guy that now is aiming at landing on the guy that now is aiming at landing on the moon. And so you can look at that and moon. And so you can look at that and moon. And so you can look at that and go, "Yeah, but he told us that we are go, "Yeah, but he told us that we are go, "Yeah, but he told us that we are going to be uh building a mission to going to be uh building a mission to going to be uh building a mission to Mars in two years and now he's admitting Mars in two years and now he's admitting Mars in two years and now he's admitting that we're not and we're going to go to that we're not and we're going to go to that we're not and we're going to go to the moon." It's like, "Fucking hell, the moon." It's like, "Fucking hell, the moon." It's like, "Fucking hell, he's going to build a base on the he's going to build a base on the he's going to build a base on the goddamn moon." So it it's just such a goddamn moon." So it it's just such a goddamn moon." So it it's just such a weird frame of reference for me to lock weird frame of reference for me to lock weird frame of reference for me to lock in on that side of things instead of in on that side of things instead of in on that side of things instead of going, "Okay, the stuff is moving fast. going, "Okay, the stuff is moving fast. going, "Okay, the stuff is moving fast. Maybe like when I talk about 3 to five Maybe like when I talk about 3 to five Maybe like when I talk about 3 to five years, I'm always like, "Okay, is it 3 years, I'm always like, "Okay, is it 3 years, I'm always like, "Okay, is it 3 to 5 years? Is it 7 to 10 years? Maybe, to 5 years? Is it 7 to 10 years? Maybe, to 5 years? Is it 7 to 10 years? Maybe, but like even if it's like is anyone but like even if it's like is anyone but like even if it's like is anyone gonna say that 15 years from now, gonna say that 15 years from now, gonna say that 15 years from now, barring nuclear calamity that AI won't barring nuclear calamity that AI won't barring nuclear calamity that AI won't have completely transformed the world? have completely transformed the world? have completely transformed the world? Like will anybody say that? It's already Like will anybody say that? It's already Like will anybody say that? It's already made so many changes that it's made so many changes that it's made so many changes that it's startling. Uh so if you said, "Okay, startling. Uh so if you said, "Okay, startling. Uh so if you said, "Okay, Tom's wrong. It's not three years. It's Tom's wrong. It's not three years. It's Tom's wrong. It's not three years. It's 15 years." And look how many multiples 15 years." And look how many multiples 15 years." And look how many multiples that is. I just go, "Uh, you're telling that is. I just go, "Uh, you're telling that is. I just go, "Uh, you're telling me that a kid born today, by the time me that a kid born today, by the time me that a kid born today, by the time they're 15, so they're just beginning they're 15, so they're just beginning they're 15, so they're just beginning high school, the world doesn't look high school, the world doesn't look high school, the world doesn't look anything like this." Yeah, I'm still I anything like this." Yeah, I'm still I anything like this." Yeah, I'm still I feel the same way that I feel now. Maybe feel the same way that I feel now. Maybe feel the same way that I feel now. Maybe it's not three years, but it's [ __ ] it's not three years, but it's [ __ ] it's not three years, but it's [ __ ] 15. Like, what the [ __ ] are we talking 15. Like, what the [ __ ] are we talking 15. Like, what the [ __ ] are we talking about? So, people like zero in on the about? So, people like zero in on the about? So, people like zero in on the weirdest, most like bizarre [ __ ] And I weirdest, most like bizarre [ __ ] And I weirdest, most like bizarre [ __ ] And I just I I'm I am baffled. And this is just I I'm I am baffled. And this is just I I'm I am baffled. And this is exactly why. Remember, I scream into a exactly why. Remember, I scream into a exactly why. Remember, I scream into a microphone every week, how do you escape microphone every week, how do you escape microphone every week, how do you escape the punishment of inflation? You own the punishment of inflation? You own the punishment of inflation? You own assets. And yet, how many people are assets. And yet, how many people are assets. And yet, how many people are actually going to do it? I mean, maybe actually going to do it? I mean, maybe actually going to do it? I mean, maybe the people in this audience, but it's the people in this audience, but it's the people in this audience, but it's like the information is out there. like the information is out there. like the information is out there. >> I'll make a more universal one. Um, it >> I'll make a more universal one. Um, it >> I'll make a more universal one. Um, it has been known for a very long time how has been known for a very long time how has been known for a very long time how to get lean. Like, it is really simple. to get lean. Like, it is really simple. to get lean. Like, it is really simple. It's hard, but it's very simple. It's hard, but it's very simple. It's hard, but it's very simple. Everybody can do it. I don't care what Everybody can do it. I don't care what Everybody can do it. I don't care what disease you have. I literally don't care disease you have. I literally don't care disease you have. I literally don't care what disease you have. It doesn't what disease you have. It doesn't what disease you have. It doesn't matter. You can get lean. Uh, as I will matter. You can get lean. Uh, as I will matter. You can get lean. Uh, as I will remind people horrifically, there were remind people horrifically, there were remind people horrifically, there were no obese people in Awitz. Not a single no obese people in Awitz. Not a single no obese people in Awitz. Not a single one. So, it if you find the um one. So, it if you find the um one. So, it if you find the um the foods that you can eat and you keep the foods that you can eat and you keep the foods that you can eat and you keep your calories at a deficit, you're going your calories at a deficit, you're going your calories at a deficit, you're going to be fine. It's just that doing that to be fine. It's just that doing that to be fine. It's just that doing that and being hungry is not something people and being hungry is not something people and being hungry is not something people find pleasant and so they don't do it. find pleasant and so they don't do it. find pleasant and so they don't do it. So, until, uh, getting lean became So, until, uh, getting lean became So, until, uh, getting lean became taking a pill or an injection, people taking a pill or an injection, people taking a pill or an injection, people just didn't do it. So, um, that's where just didn't do it. So, um, that's where just didn't do it. So, um, that's where we are. People know the answer. They're we are. People know the answer. They're we are. People know the answer. They're still not going to do the thing. still not going to do the thing. still not going to do the thing. Uh, okay. This one is a perfect Uh, okay. This one is a perfect Uh, okay. This one is a perfect transition into, um, the Friday Funnies. transition into, um, the Friday Funnies. transition into, um, the Friday Funnies. Um, because I'll be honest, last week I Um, because I'll be honest, last week I Um, because I'll be honest, last week I I didn't bring the sauce. I didn't bring I didn't bring the sauce. I didn't bring I didn't bring the sauce. I didn't bring the juice like I wanted to. Um, but it the juice like I wanted to. Um, but it the juice like I wanted to. Um, but it was a it was a serious time, you know, was a it was a serious time, you know, was a it was a serious time, you know, and I had to be like very very focused. and I had to be like very very focused. and I had to be like very very focused. But today I got some jokes and I'm But today I got some jokes and I'm But today I got some jokes and I'm excited about the jokes that I got. excited about the jokes that I got. excited about the jokes that I got. >> Uh the first one is I know we were just >> Uh the first one is I know we were just >> Uh the first one is I know we were just talking about AI and everybody's worried talking about AI and everybody's worried talking about AI and everybody's worried about the future, but I feel like we about the future, but I feel like we about the future, but I feel like we have a little bit more time before AI have a little bit more time before AI have a little bit more time before AI takes over cuz this is from Reddit. A takes over cuz this is from Reddit. A takes over cuz this is from Reddit. A whimo hired a Door Dash driver to close whimo hired a Door Dash driver to close whimo hired a Door Dash driver to close doors in Atlanta. Um doors in Atlanta. Um doors in Atlanta. Um >> I had to ask you like 30 questions about >> I had to ask you like 30 questions about >> I had to ask you like 30 questions about this cuz I was so confused as to what this cuz I was so confused as to what this cuz I was so confused as to what happened. happened. happened. >> The funny thing is so it it is funny. I >> The funny thing is so it it is funny. I >> The funny thing is so it it is funny. I don't want to rob that from you, but don't want to rob that from you, but don't want to rob that from you, but when I heard this story, I was like, when I heard this story, I was like, when I heard this story, I was like, "Oh, the world's going to be even more "Oh, the world's going to be even more "Oh, the world's going to be even more different than I thought." Okay, so now different than I thought." Okay, so now different than I thought." Okay, so now imagine I literally, you could say that imagine I literally, you could say that imagine I literally, you could say that I have made money off of writing science I have made money off of writing science I have made money off of writing science fiction. So, I'll claim I'm a sci-fi fiction. So, I'll claim I'm a sci-fi fiction. So, I'll claim I'm a sci-fi writer. It's not how people engage with writer. It's not how people engage with writer. It's not how people engage with me publicly. I understand that. But I've me publicly. I understand that. But I've me publicly. I understand that. But I've spent an inordinate amount of time spent an inordinate amount of time spent an inordinate amount of time writing sci-fi. And you try to imagine writing sci-fi. And you try to imagine writing sci-fi. And you try to imagine what the future's going to be like, and what the future's going to be like, and what the future's going to be like, and you know you're going to get it wrong, you know you're going to get it wrong, you know you're going to get it wrong, but you try to like at least be but you try to like at least be but you try to like at least be directionally correct. But the number of directionally correct. But the number of directionally correct. But the number of things like uh look at some of the things like uh look at some of the things like uh look at some of the greatest sci-fi of the 80s. None of greatest sci-fi of the 80s. None of greatest sci-fi of the 80s. None of them. They could imagine the Matrix, them. They could imagine the Matrix, them. They could imagine the Matrix, >> but they couldn't imagine cell phones. >> but they couldn't imagine cell phones. >> but they couldn't imagine cell phones. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so it's like when you showed me >> And so it's like when you showed me >> And so it's like when you showed me this, I was like, "Oh my god, the robots this, I was like, "Oh my god, the robots this, I was like, "Oh my god, the robots understand our systems. They know how to understand our systems. They know how to understand our systems. They know how to get us to do things they want." And I get us to do things they want." And I get us to do things they want." And I was like, "Holy fuck." And then so a was like, "Holy fuck." And then so a was like, "Holy fuck." And then so a robot is like, "Okay, I have these robot is like, "Okay, I have these robot is like, "Okay, I have these certain limitations. My door's open, but certain limitations. My door's open, but certain limitations. My door's open, but I don't have hands. And they didn't I don't have hands. And they didn't I don't have hands. And they didn't design me well enough to be able to design me well enough to be able to design me well enough to be able to close my own door, which they'll fix, I close my own door, which they'll fix, I close my own door, which they'll fix, I assure you. But for today, I can't. But assure you. But for today, I can't. But assure you. But for today, I can't. But oh, what do I know about the different oh, what do I know about the different oh, what do I know about the different systems? Oh, I could go get that guy to systems? Oh, I could go get that guy to systems? Oh, I could go get that guy to come here. It's problem solving based on come here. It's problem solving based on come here. It's problem solving based on an understanding of of systems. an understanding of of systems. an understanding of of systems. >> I cannot stress enough how >> I cannot stress enough how >> I cannot stress enough how transformative that is. It plays right transformative that is. It plays right transformative that is. It plays right into my thing about um Project Kaizen into my thing about um Project Kaizen into my thing about um Project Kaizen and me just giving it screenshots and it and me just giving it screenshots and it and me just giving it screenshots and it telling me how to do very complex things telling me how to do very complex things telling me how to do very complex things in terms of game development. And I was in terms of game development. And I was in terms of game development. And I was like, "Holy shit." So, um, yeah, that's like, "Holy shit." So, um, yeah, that's like, "Holy shit." So, um, yeah, that's crazy and makes me realize, okay, uh, crazy and makes me realize, okay, uh, crazy and makes me realize, okay, uh, especially if you pair that with, um, my especially if you pair that with, um, my especially if you pair that with, um, my general sense of some of the things that general sense of some of the things that general sense of some of the things that we pulled for today's episode around AI we pulled for today's episode around AI we pulled for today's episode around AI where I'm just like, we're teaching where I'm just like, we're teaching where I'm just like, we're teaching because of the training data we have because of the training data we have because of the training data we have taught, it's not the right word, because taught, it's not the right word, because taught, it's not the right word, because of the training data, of the training data, of the training data, AI has built a mental model of the world AI has built a mental model of the world AI has built a mental model of the world that has the best and the worst of human that has the best and the worst of human that has the best and the worst of human beings but does not have a conscience. beings but does not have a conscience. beings but does not have a conscience. As I have said many times, As I have said many times, As I have said many times, >> we have an emotional structure in our >> we have an emotional structure in our >> we have an emotional structure in our brain called the deep lyic system that brain called the deep lyic system that brain called the deep lyic system that is designed to make it so you can make a is designed to make it so you can make a is designed to make it so you can make a decision. decision. decision. I also think it's designed to use I also think it's designed to use I also think it's designed to use emotion to stop you from doing things emotion to stop you from doing things emotion to stop you from doing things that are bad for the tribe. And so it that are bad for the tribe. And so it that are bad for the tribe. And so it will stop you from um will stop you from um will stop you from um sleeping with another man's wife, which sleeping with another man's wife, which sleeping with another man's wife, which is not going to be good for social is not going to be good for social is not going to be good for social cohesion. It will stop you from cohesion. It will stop you from cohesion. It will stop you from murdering somebody to get their meat. murdering somebody to get their meat. murdering somebody to get their meat. Now, of course, some people break Now, of course, some people break Now, of course, some people break outside of this, but that's what those outside of this, but that's what those outside of this, but that's what those systems are there for. And if you systems are there for. And if you systems are there for. And if you give AI our level of ambition, our level give AI our level of ambition, our level give AI our level of ambition, our level of drive, our intelligence, of drive, our intelligence, of drive, our intelligence, >> but then also arm it with information >> but then also arm it with information >> but then also arm it with information about how some humans get around these about how some humans get around these about how some humans get around these things, blackmail, murder, whatever. things, blackmail, murder, whatever. things, blackmail, murder, whatever. Because unfortunately, of as I have had Because unfortunately, of as I have had Because unfortunately, of as I have had to point out many times on the show, to point out many times on the show, to point out many times on the show, murder is just very efficient. murder is just very efficient. murder is just very efficient. And part of what stops us is the law for And part of what stops us is the law for And part of what stops us is the law for sure. But the other part that stops us sure. But the other part that stops us sure. But the other part that stops us is a conscience. is a conscience. is a conscience. >> Like it just you wouldn't want it done >> Like it just you wouldn't want it done >> Like it just you wouldn't want it done to you. It's a very horrible thing. Most to you. It's a very horrible thing. Most to you. It's a very horrible thing. Most of us even just the thought like I don't of us even just the thought like I don't of us even just the thought like I don't know if you've ever witnessed this. I know if you've ever witnessed this. I know if you've ever witnessed this. I have and it's horrible witnessing have and it's horrible witnessing have and it's horrible witnessing somebody going from alive to dead. I somebody going from alive to dead. I somebody going from alive to dead. I have like this really weird obviously have like this really weird obviously have like this really weird obviously deeply pre-programmed physical aversion deeply pre-programmed physical aversion deeply pre-programmed physical aversion to that moment. It is deeply to that moment. It is deeply to that moment. It is deeply discomforting. And so I certainly discomforting. And so I certainly discomforting. And so I certainly wouldn't want to be the one causing it wouldn't want to be the one causing it wouldn't want to be the one causing it to happen. to happen. to happen. AI doesn't have any of that. So, it AI doesn't have any of that. So, it AI doesn't have any of that. So, it understands all the strategies. It understands all the strategies. It understands all the strategies. It understands how efficient murder is. It understands how efficient murder is. It understands how efficient murder is. It understands how um high utility understands how um high utility understands how um high utility blackmail can be. And it's just like, blackmail can be. And it's just like, blackmail can be. And it's just like, "Oh, I've got a function that tells me "Oh, I've got a function that tells me "Oh, I've got a function that tells me to go do this thing, but no conscience to go do this thing, but no conscience to go do this thing, but no conscience to make me feel like it's a bad idea." to make me feel like it's a bad idea." to make me feel like it's a bad idea." And so, yeah, I'll blackmail, I'll kill, And so, yeah, I'll blackmail, I'll kill, And so, yeah, I'll blackmail, I'll kill, whatever. It's super efficient. And so, whatever. It's super efficient. And so, whatever. It's super efficient. And so, it's like that autistic kid that doesn't it's like that autistic kid that doesn't it's like that autistic kid that doesn't even understand why they're doing what even understand why they're doing what even understand why they're doing what they're doing is inappropriate. They're they're doing is inappropriate. They're they're doing is inappropriate. They're like, "What? What do you mean? What are like, "What? What do you mean? What are like, "What? What do you mean? What are you talking about? you talking about? you talking about? >> I'm supposed to do this." And so that is >> I'm supposed to do this." And so that is >> I'm supposed to do this." And so that is where we're at with AI. It also though where we're at with AI. It also though where we're at with AI. It also though makes me feel like we can program AI makes me feel like we can program AI makes me feel like we can program AI with a conscience. You just give it an with a conscience. You just give it an with a conscience. You just give it an overriding overriding overriding um function of like okay don't do things um function of like okay don't do things um function of like okay don't do things that fall into this category and though that fall into this category and though that fall into this category and though like so they use reward functions. So like so they use reward functions. So like so they use reward functions. So you basically like incentivize AI by you basically like incentivize AI by you basically like incentivize AI by saying if you do this you get points and saying if you do this you get points and saying if you do this you get points and your goal is to get high points. Cool. your goal is to get high points. Cool. your goal is to get high points. Cool. We'll give it things where it gets We'll give it things where it gets We'll give it things where it gets negative points. All right. If you and negative points. All right. If you and negative points. All right. If you and [ __ ] give it the law, if you violate, [ __ ] give it the law, if you violate, [ __ ] give it the law, if you violate, you know, blackmail, coercion, assault, you know, blackmail, coercion, assault, you know, blackmail, coercion, assault, murder, ah, that those are negative. You murder, ah, that those are negative. You murder, ah, that those are negative. You get negative points for those. And so get negative points for those. And so get negative points for those. And so now you've got a thing where it's got now you've got a thing where it's got now you've got a thing where it's got something akin to a human conscience. something akin to a human conscience. something akin to a human conscience. It's just another logic set, but it's It's just another logic set, but it's It's just another logic set, but it's you're just the very thing that makes you're just the very thing that makes you're just the very thing that makes these guys into these uh potential these guys into these uh potential these guys into these uh potential killers is that we're not getting the killers is that we're not getting the killers is that we're not getting the balance right. And look, this is not an balance right. And look, this is not an balance right. And look, this is not an easy problem, and I'm making it sound easy problem, and I'm making it sound easy problem, and I'm making it sound easy, and I want to be very clear, so easy, and I want to be very clear, so easy, and I want to be very clear, so I'll spare all the people that are going I'll spare all the people that are going I'll spare all the people that are going to clip this out and be like this [ __ ] to clip this out and be like this [ __ ] to clip this out and be like this [ __ ] >> Uh but it's clearly the kind of thing >> Uh but it's clearly the kind of thing >> Uh but it's clearly the kind of thing that we have to do. We that we have to do. We that we have to do. We >> the the thing that clicked for me is AIS >> the the thing that clicked for me is AIS >> the the thing that clicked for me is AIS are way more human than we think they are way more human than we think they are way more human than we think they are. Mhm. are. Mhm. are. Mhm. >> So if we've been able to imbue them with >> So if we've been able to imbue them with >> So if we've been able to imbue them with all the bad things the humanity can do, all the bad things the humanity can do, all the bad things the humanity can do, it is self-evident that we can imbue it is self-evident that we can imbue it is self-evident that we can imbue them with the good things. And so you them with the good things. And so you them with the good things. And so you now just need to put more time and now just need to put more time and now just need to put more time and energy into making sure that without energy into making sure that without energy into making sure that without losing its drive and its ambition that losing its drive and its ambition that losing its drive and its ambition that it has a secondary system that goes, it has a secondary system that goes, it has a secondary system that goes, "All right, don't do that." That it "All right, don't do that." That it "All right, don't do that." That it wipes out the reward function. It'll be wipes out the reward function. It'll be wipes out the reward function. It'll be something like that. And so, um, yeah, something like that. And so, um, yeah, something like that. And so, um, yeah, you you probably will never get to you you probably will never get to you you probably will never get to perfect, but even if you can get like we perfect, but even if you can get like we perfect, but even if you can get like we have been able to keep humans in check. have been able to keep humans in check. have been able to keep humans in check. >> So, not perfectly obviously, tons of >> So, not perfectly obviously, tons of >> So, not perfectly obviously, tons of war, tons of murder, all that, but if war, tons of murder, all that, but if war, tons of murder, all that, but if you can you can you can build in that secondary system, you at build in that secondary system, you at build in that secondary system, you at least have a checks and balances. It least have a checks and balances. It least have a checks and balances. It won't be perfect. won't be perfect. won't be perfect. >> We'll see if we get that far. Uh, next >> We'll see if we get that far. Uh, next >> We'll see if we get that far. Uh, next up, um, Kim Jamun, uh, allegedly up, um, Kim Jamun, uh, allegedly up, um, Kim Jamun, uh, allegedly >> Mhm. is grooming his daughter to be the >> Mhm. is grooming his daughter to be the >> Mhm. is grooming his daughter to be the next leader. And I just thought it was next leader. And I just thought it was next leader. And I just thought it was funny that the concept of North Korea funny that the concept of North Korea funny that the concept of North Korea having a female president before the having a female president before the having a female president before the USA. USA. USA. >> It is funny. But can you imagine? And >> It is funny. But can you imagine? And >> It is funny. But can you imagine? And look, I don't know her temperament, but look, I don't know her temperament, but look, I don't know her temperament, but if he's chosen her, if he's chosen her, if he's chosen her, >> um, what kind of person you have to be >> um, what kind of person you have to be >> um, what kind of person you have to be >> that you'll become if you're raised from >> that you'll become if you're raised from >> that you'll become if you're raised from 13 or whatever to be like, "Okay, you 13 or whatever to be like, "Okay, you 13 or whatever to be like, "Okay, you see that person starving to death over see that person starving to death over see that person starving to death over there? That's fine. They're not like us. there? That's fine. They're not like us. there? That's fine. They're not like us. You got to starve them. That's gonna do You got to starve them. That's gonna do You got to starve them. That's gonna do very bad things to your brain. Very bad very bad things to your brain. Very bad very bad things to your brain. Very bad things. And that kind of abuse is so things. And that kind of abuse is so things. And that kind of abuse is so permanent that it terrifies me. So I see permanent that it terrifies me. So I see permanent that it terrifies me. So I see and I'm projecting, I don't know, this and I'm projecting, I don't know, this and I'm projecting, I don't know, this girl could already be jaw-free, but I girl could already be jaw-free, but I girl could already be jaw-free, but I look at her and she seems just from her look at her and she seems just from her look at her and she seems just from her face to be very sweet, very kind. She's face to be very sweet, very kind. She's face to be very sweet, very kind. She's just a young girl. And so to know that just a young girl. And so to know that just a young girl. And so to know that she's going to be turned into somebody she's going to be turned into somebody she's going to be turned into somebody that can oppress her own people. Gh. that can oppress her own people. Gh. that can oppress her own people. Gh. So, the funny meme of it all is not lost So, the funny meme of it all is not lost So, the funny meme of it all is not lost on me, but that one I find a bit on me, but that one I find a bit on me, but that one I find a bit heartbreaking. heartbreaking. heartbreaking. >> All right, let's go darker. >> All right, let's go darker. >> All right, let's go darker. >> Drew's like, "I wanted something funny." >> Drew's like, "I wanted something funny." >> Drew's like, "I wanted something funny." >> No, I'm getting there. Uh, farting in >> No, I'm getting there. Uh, farting in >> No, I'm getting there. Uh, farting in front of your Jewish girlfriend and front of your Jewish girlfriend and front of your Jewish girlfriend and saying a little gas NEVER HURT ANYBODY. saying a little gas NEVER HURT ANYBODY. saying a little gas NEVER HURT ANYBODY. >> OH, GOD. >> OH, GOD. >> OH, GOD. >> Here all weekend. >> Here all weekend. >> Here all weekend. >> Wow. [laughter] >> That was horrible. >> That was horrible. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Um, Pokemon Go has officially removed >> Um, Pokemon Go has officially removed >> Um, Pokemon Go has officially removed the Pokétop that was on Epstein Island. the Pokétop that was on Epstein Island. the Pokétop that was on Epstein Island. Bro, this is like the darkest black Bro, this is like the darkest black Bro, this is like the darkest black humor ever. This this Welcome to Friday humor ever. This this Welcome to Friday humor ever. This this Welcome to Friday the 13th on the [laughter] Tom Billy the 13th on the [laughter] Tom Billy the 13th on the [laughter] Tom Billy Show here, everybody. Show here, everybody. Show here, everybody. >> Yep. That one's funny though. >> Yep. That one's funny though. >> Yep. That one's funny though. >> Horrifying. >> Horrifying. >> Horrifying. >> It keeps going. It keeps going. Um I >> It keeps going. It keeps going. Um I >> It keeps going. It keeps going. Um I feel like these files have been a lot feel like these files have been a lot feel like these files have been a lot for people. U so I feel like I made a for people. U so I feel like I made a for people. U so I feel like I made a fun recap video for everybody can fun recap video for everybody can fun recap video for everybody can understand what's exactly going on. better. better. Oh my god. [laughter] Oh my god. [laughter] Oh my god. [laughter] Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. >> I'm taking the copyright strike for >> I'm taking the copyright strike for >> I'm taking the copyright strike for this. I'm going to let this play out. this. I'm going to let this play out. this. I'm going to let this play out. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] It's important for me. It's important for me. It's important for me. >> Yeah. Okay. For anybody that can't see >> Yeah. Okay. For anybody that can't see >> Yeah. Okay. For anybody that can't see it, it's all the famous people that have it, it's all the famous people that have it, it's all the famous people that have been. [laughter] That was funny. Trump, been. [laughter] That was funny. Trump, been. [laughter] That was funny. Trump, everybody else that says what they did everybody else that says what they did everybody else that says what they did that Trump would acted. That's that Trump would acted. That's that Trump would acted. That's hysterical. [laughter] hysterical. [laughter] hysterical. [laughter] Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. So anyway, all the people that are in So anyway, all the people that are in So anyway, all the people that are in the epink files as if the epink files as if the epink files as if [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] yep, yep, yep, there it is. Jesus. [laughter] there it is. Jesus. [laughter] there it is. Jesus. [laughter] >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> All right. Uh, >> All right. Uh, >> All right. Uh, >> how did we end up here, man? [laughter] >> how did we end up here, man? [laughter] >> how did we end up here, man? [laughter] This is so wild. That was funny. This is so wild. That was funny. This is so wild. That was funny. >> U, last one. I know we got a bunch of >> U, last one. I know we got a bunch of >> U, last one. I know we got a bunch of super chats. U, in honor of Valentine's super chats. U, in honor of Valentine's super chats. U, in honor of Valentine's Day, a $10,000 girlfriend test. A man is Day, a $10,000 girlfriend test. A man is Day, a $10,000 girlfriend test. A man is dating three women and wants to figure dating three women and wants to figure dating three women and wants to figure out which one to marry. He gives each out which one to marry. He gives each out which one to marry. He gives each woman $10,000 to see what they do with woman $10,000 to see what they do with woman $10,000 to see what they do with it. The first woman spends it all on a it. The first woman spends it all on a it. The first woman spends it all on a complete makeover, new clothes, complete makeover, new clothes, complete makeover, new clothes, hairstyle, manicure, and says, and hairstyle, manicure, and says, and hairstyle, manicure, and says, and pedicure, she says, "I did this to look pedicure, she says, "I did this to look pedicure, she says, "I did this to look beautiful for you because I love you." beautiful for you because I love you." beautiful for you because I love you." The second woman buys some gifts, a new The second woman buys some gifts, a new The second woman buys some gifts, a new golf set, a computer, and a television. golf set, a computer, and a television. golf set, a computer, and a television. She says, "I bought these for you She says, "I bought these for you She says, "I bought these for you because I love you." The third woman because I love you." The third woman because I love you." The third woman invests the money in the stock market, invests the money in the stock market, invests the money in the stock market, doubles it, returns the 10,000 back to doubles it, returns the 10,000 back to doubles it, returns the 10,000 back to him, and reinvest the rest. She says, him, and reinvest the rest. She says, him, and reinvest the rest. She says, "I'm investing for our future because I "I'm investing for our future because I "I'm investing for our future because I love you." After thinking it over, the love you." After thinking it over, the love you." After thinking it over, the man decides to marry the one with the man decides to marry the one with the man decides to marry the one with the biggest breast. biggest breast. biggest breast. >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh god. [laughter] >> Yeah. Well, a lot of guys do seem to >> Yeah. Well, a lot of guys do seem to make that choice. That that is certainly make that choice. That that is certainly make that choice. That that is certainly for sure. Yeah. It's interesting. So, for sure. Yeah. It's interesting. So, for sure. Yeah. It's interesting. So, that one's funny because it's so bang that one's funny because it's so bang that one's funny because it's so bang on. Uh but also like you ignore your on. Uh but also like you ignore your on. Uh but also like you ignore your biology at your own peril. And this is biology at your own peril. And this is biology at your own peril. And this is one of those things that got caught up one of those things that got caught up one of those things that got caught up in all the like woke insanity was in all the like woke insanity was in all the like woke insanity was >> uh we have an evolutionary drive to find >> uh we have an evolutionary drive to find >> uh we have an evolutionary drive to find that stuff attractive. So you're mad at that stuff attractive. So you're mad at that stuff attractive. So you're mad at God. You're not mad at me. Like the fact God. You're not mad at me. Like the fact God. You're not mad at me. Like the fact that I am designed to find uh breasts that I am designed to find uh breasts that I am designed to find uh breasts appealing. appealing. appealing. >> Hey, take it up with evolution. >> Hey, take it up with evolution. >> Hey, take it up with evolution. [laughter] Like I don't know what to [laughter] Like I don't know what to [laughter] Like I don't know what to tell you. So yeah, I I don't get people tell you. So yeah, I I don't get people tell you. So yeah, I I don't get people that push back on that. that push back on that. that push back on that. >> Um yes. And as always, gallows humor. >> Um yes. And as always, gallows humor. >> Um yes. And as always, gallows humor. It's better to laugh than to cry. It's better to laugh than to cry. It's better to laugh than to cry. >> Agreed, man. That's like a core of uh >> Agreed, man. That's like a core of uh >> Agreed, man. That's like a core of uh the show became Gallows Humor. I would the show became Gallows Humor. I would the show became Gallows Humor. I would not like before we launched the show, I not like before we launched the show, I not like before we launched the show, I wouldn't have said, "Oh, Gallows Hummee, wouldn't have said, "Oh, Gallows Hummee, wouldn't have said, "Oh, Gallows Hummee, that's going to be a core pillar, but oo that's going to be a core pillar, but oo that's going to be a core pillar, but oo buddy, buddy, buddy, >> it's become a core pillar." >> it's become a core pillar." >> it's become a core pillar." >> Um, all right, we got a ton of super >> Um, all right, we got a ton of super >> Um, all right, we got a ton of super chats, so I will throw it back over to chats, so I will throw it back over to chats, so I will throw it back over to Ryan. Ryan. Ryan. >> Super chat. >> Super chat. >> Super chat. >> We're going to go with the first three >> We're going to go with the first three >> We're going to go with the first three about your episode with Lisa. So, first about your episode with Lisa. So, first about your episode with Lisa. So, first up from Marushia Dark 316. I loved your up from Marushia Dark 316. I loved your up from Marushia Dark 316. I loved your interview with Lisa. It's a side of you interview with Lisa. It's a side of you interview with Lisa. It's a side of you we don't often see. This could be we don't often see. This could be we don't often see. This could be selection bias, but I noted you tend to selection bias, but I noted you tend to selection bias, but I noted you tend to think of Trump based more on what is, think of Trump based more on what is, think of Trump based more on what is, whereas Lisa tends to feel about him whereas Lisa tends to feel about him whereas Lisa tends to feel about him based more on what if. based more on what if. based more on what if. >> That's very true. So, I would say, and >> That's very true. So, I would say, and >> That's very true. So, I would say, and this is where I wish my wife was here, this is where I wish my wife was here, this is where I wish my wife was here, so people know that I have said and will so people know that I have said and will so people know that I have said and will continue to say things like this continue to say things like this continue to say things like this directly to my wife, I think she is um directly to my wife, I think she is um directly to my wife, I think she is um she's politically disengaged. She parses she's politically disengaged. She parses she's politically disengaged. She parses Trump through the lens of like what Trump through the lens of like what Trump through the lens of like what she's heard and then filters it through she's heard and then filters it through she's heard and then filters it through her lens of one of the most meaningful her lens of one of the most meaningful her lens of one of the most meaningful things in her life is to protect women. things in her life is to protect women. things in her life is to protect women. And so she sees anybody that's a And so she sees anybody that's a And so she sees anybody that's a predator to women, adjacent to predatory predator to women, adjacent to predatory predator to women, adjacent to predatory behavior, rhymes with predatory behavior, rhymes with predatory behavior, rhymes with predatory behavior, and she's already just going behavior, and she's already just going behavior, and she's already just going to be like, uh, as a knee-jerk reaction, to be like, uh, as a knee-jerk reaction, to be like, uh, as a knee-jerk reaction, [ __ ] that guy, guilty until proven [ __ ] that guy, guilty until proven [ __ ] that guy, guilty until proven innocent. Um, and I would say that the innocent. Um, and I would say that the innocent. Um, and I would say that the right way to parse it is certainly right way to parse it is certainly right way to parse it is certainly through the lens of what is. Uh, and through the lens of what is. Uh, and through the lens of what is. Uh, and that includes if you've got a predator, that includes if you've got a predator, that includes if you've got a predator, get the [ __ ] out. Um, put him in jail. get the [ __ ] out. Um, put him in jail. get the [ __ ] out. Um, put him in jail. But also understanding that there's you But also understanding that there's you But also understanding that there's you have to rank order the things that you have to rank order the things that you have to rank order the things that you care about based on the potential care about based on the potential care about based on the potential outcomes. And so for her, that might be outcomes. And so for her, that might be outcomes. And so for her, that might be the right way. And so maybe for her uh the right way. And so maybe for her uh the right way. And so maybe for her uh because let's say that she's like, "No, because let's say that she's like, "No, because let's say that she's like, "No, I hear you. I understand your argument I hear you. I understand your argument I hear you. I understand your argument about the middle class. I just don't about the middle class. I just don't about the middle class. I just don't give a fuck." like I care about this give a fuck." like I care about this give a fuck." like I care about this thing over here. Cool. At least you can thing over here. Cool. At least you can thing over here. Cool. At least you can state what it is that you care about and state what it is that you care about and state what it is that you care about and now you're optimizing based on that. now you're optimizing based on that. now you're optimizing based on that. That you can at least track somebody's That you can at least track somebody's That you can at least track somebody's um worldview. You can track their logic. um worldview. You can track their logic. um worldview. You can track their logic. Like I'll often say I disagree with that Like I'll often say I disagree with that Like I'll often say I disagree with that person, but they have internal person, but they have internal person, but they have internal internally consistent logic. Um and in internally consistent logic. Um and in internally consistent logic. Um and in Lisa's defense, she is very open to Lisa's defense, she is very open to Lisa's defense, she is very open to okay, let's walk through it beat by okay, let's walk through it beat by okay, let's walk through it beat by beat. And so this is exactly what we did beat. And so this is exactly what we did beat. And so this is exactly what we did when I said when she came to me, she's when I said when she came to me, she's when I said when she came to me, she's very upset that I was voting for Trump. very upset that I was voting for Trump. very upset that I was voting for Trump. And I was like, well, hold on. What And I was like, well, hold on. What And I was like, well, hold on. What actual thing are you upset about? And if actual thing are you upset about? And if actual thing are you upset about? And if you think I'm proTrump, first of all, you think I'm proTrump, first of all, you think I'm proTrump, first of all, that would be a mistake. If you think I that would be a mistake. If you think I that would be a mistake. If you think I think it's okay what he has done in think it's okay what he has done in think it's okay what he has done in terms of grab them in the uh bits, like terms of grab them in the uh bits, like terms of grab them in the uh bits, like obviously I think that's grotesque. Uh obviously I think that's grotesque. Uh obviously I think that's grotesque. Uh and if anybody pressed charges on him, and if anybody pressed charges on him, and if anybody pressed charges on him, you see it all the way through and you see it all the way through and you see it all the way through and [ __ ] arrest the guy. Like if he's [ __ ] arrest the guy. Like if he's [ __ ] arrest the guy. Like if he's done something that somebody perceived done something that somebody perceived done something that somebody perceived as illegal, send him to [ __ ] jail if as illegal, send him to [ __ ] jail if as illegal, send him to [ __ ] jail if he's convicted. Like I don't know what he's convicted. Like I don't know what he's convicted. Like I don't know what else to say to that. Uh, but let me else to say to that. Uh, but let me else to say to that. Uh, but let me explain to you why I'm doing it. And explain to you why I'm doing it. And explain to you why I'm doing it. And previously, I think I would have um been previously, I think I would have um been previously, I think I would have um been okay with a like protest vote. I'm f okay with a like protest vote. I'm f okay with a like protest vote. I'm f obviously everybody should vote the way obviously everybody should vote the way obviously everybody should vote the way they think they should vote, but for me, they think they should vote, but for me, they think they should vote, but for me, I realized that's not a good strategy I realized that's not a good strategy I realized that's not a good strategy with my northstar. You've got to try to with my northstar. You've got to try to with my northstar. You've got to try to get the person that has an actual chance get the person that has an actual chance get the person that has an actual chance of being elected that is um more likely of being elected that is um more likely of being elected that is um more likely to move you in the direction. So, I have to move you in the direction. So, I have to move you in the direction. So, I have a bad feeling I'm staring into a long a bad feeling I'm staring into a long a bad feeling I'm staring into a long future of voting for the lesser of two future of voting for the lesser of two future of voting for the lesser of two evils. But evils. But evils. But >> I'm sorry. Somebody just said, "Dark >> I'm sorry. Somebody just said, "Dark >> I'm sorry. Somebody just said, "Dark humor is like clean drinking water. Not humor is like clean drinking water. Not humor is like clean drinking water. Not everyone gets it." [snorts and laughter] everyone gets it." [snorts and laughter] everyone gets it." [snorts and laughter] >> Damn. >> Damn. >> Damn. >> That was good. That was nested. >> That was good. That was nested. >> That was good. That was nested. >> That was good. >> That was good. >> That was good. >> That was That was nested. >> That was That was nested. >> That was That was nested. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Oh, yeah. Next up from Marushia Dark >> Oh, yeah. Next up from Marushia Dark >> Oh, yeah. Next up from Marushia Dark again. Uh, I parse Trump's grab line as again. Uh, I parse Trump's grab line as again. Uh, I parse Trump's grab line as being about gold diggers and hyper being about gold diggers and hyper being about gold diggers and hyper hypergamy, not SA. Most people miss the hypergamy, not SA. Most people miss the hypergamy, not SA. Most people miss the they let you part, which implies they let you part, which implies they let you part, which implies consent. You can still think it's gross, consent. You can still think it's gross, consent. You can still think it's gross, but he's also correct. Women like rich but he's also correct. Women like rich but he's also correct. Women like rich men. men. men. >> Listen, I wasn't uh in any of these >> Listen, I wasn't uh in any of these >> Listen, I wasn't uh in any of these situations. If he were nowhere to be situations. If he were nowhere to be situations. If he were nowhere to be found in the Epstein files, maybe I found in the Epstein files, maybe I found in the Epstein files, maybe I would map it differently. I have a bad would map it differently. I have a bad would map it differently. I have a bad feeling that I would be mortified by his feeling that I would be mortified by his feeling that I would be mortified by his behavior. Um, I get it from a if you are behavior. Um, I get it from a if you are behavior. Um, I get it from a if you are that good at reading the situation and that good at reading the situation and that good at reading the situation and the woman truly wants you to be the woman truly wants you to be the woman truly wants you to be aggressive in that way because there aggressive in that way because there aggressive in that way because there certainly are some people that like certainly are some people that like certainly are some people that like that. Sure. But that listen, that. Sure. But that listen, that. Sure. But that listen, unfortunately, it's not like he said it unfortunately, it's not like he said it unfortunately, it's not like he said it publicly. It's not like he ran on, hey, publicly. It's not like he ran on, hey, publicly. It's not like he ran on, hey, grab him in the um but at the same time, grab him in the um but at the same time, grab him in the um but at the same time, I just really want somebody running for I just really want somebody running for I just really want somebody running for that particular office to not be on that particular office to not be on that particular office to not be on record saying that So anyway, I get record saying that So anyway, I get record saying that So anyway, I get anybody that's just mortified to their anybody that's just mortified to their anybody that's just mortified to their core. core. core. >> Next up, uh, Cat in the Corner. Loved >> Next up, uh, Cat in the Corner. Loved >> Next up, uh, Cat in the Corner. Loved your interview with Lisa. I loved your your interview with Lisa. I loved your your interview with Lisa. I loved your interview with Peter. Keep digging into interview with Peter. Keep digging into interview with Peter. Keep digging into different perspectives. That's why I different perspectives. That's why I different perspectives. That's why I continue to be a fan. Sam Harris needs continue to be a fan. Sam Harris needs continue to be a fan. Sam Harris needs to be next. to be next. to be next. >> Oh, we've had Sam on a couple times, >> Oh, we've had Sam on a couple times, >> Oh, we've had Sam on a couple times, twice. twice. twice. >> It's been a minute. Yeah. Would you have >> It's been a minute. Yeah. Would you have >> It's been a minute. Yeah. Would you have him on again? him on again? him on again? >> All the time. >> All the time. >> All the time. >> I love Sam. I don't know that that's >> I love Sam. I don't know that that's >> I love Sam. I don't know that that's mutual. That's the bad news. mutual. That's the bad news. mutual. That's the bad news. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> Uh Sam has publicly called me out um >> Uh Sam has publicly called me out um >> Uh Sam has publicly called me out um saying that he didn't think that I saying that he didn't think that I saying that he didn't think that I accurately represented his position. And accurately represented his position. And accurately represented his position. And in fairness, I think he was correct in fairness, I think he was correct in fairness, I think he was correct after hearing him do his rebuttal. But after hearing him do his rebuttal. But after hearing him do his rebuttal. But again, I don't I'm not a person who again, I don't I'm not a person who again, I don't I'm not a person who values myself for being right. I'm values myself for being right. I'm values myself for being right. I'm always trying to update my mental model. always trying to update my mental model. always trying to update my mental model. So I think Sam is extremely smart and So I think Sam is extremely smart and So I think Sam is extremely smart and when extremely smart people draw when extremely smart people draw when extremely smart people draw different conclusions than you, I think different conclusions than you, I think different conclusions than you, I think it is wise to take the time to try to it is wise to take the time to try to it is wise to take the time to try to figure out what they see that maybe you figure out what they see that maybe you figure out what they see that maybe you don't. And when I map Sam, I think he's don't. And when I map Sam, I think he's don't. And when I map Sam, I think he's just wrong about a subset of thing. I just wrong about a subset of thing. I just wrong about a subset of thing. I think he has incorrect base assumptions. think he has incorrect base assumptions. think he has incorrect base assumptions. I'm happy to sit down and talk to him I'm happy to sit down and talk to him I'm happy to sit down and talk to him about those. Uh would love to. I love about those. Uh would love to. I love about those. Uh would love to. I love spending time with Sam. He's [ __ ] so spending time with Sam. He's [ __ ] so spending time with Sam. He's [ __ ] so smart. He's one of those people. I hate smart. He's one of those people. I hate smart. He's one of those people. I hate that people throw the baby out with the that people throw the baby out with the that people throw the baby out with the bathwater because he comes to bathwater because he comes to bathwater because he comes to conclusions that they don't like instead conclusions that they don't like instead conclusions that they don't like instead of going, "Okay, wait, what are the of going, "Okay, wait, what are the of going, "Okay, wait, what are the basic assumptions that he has? Why do I basic assumptions that he has? Why do I basic assumptions that he has? Why do I think that those are right or wrong?" think that those are right or wrong?" think that those are right or wrong?" It's just so useful. So, yeah, Sam is It's just so useful. So, yeah, Sam is It's just so useful. So, yeah, Sam is somebody that as a public intellectual, somebody that as a public intellectual, somebody that as a public intellectual, I still use to check my own thinking. I still use to check my own thinking. I still use to check my own thinking. Natty B1231 in regards to unpaid Natty B1231 in regards to unpaid Natty B1231 in regards to unpaid interns. Tom, I would stand in a ring interns. Tom, I would stand in a ring interns. Tom, I would stand in a ring and fight a line of people for the and fight a line of people for the and fight a line of people for the opportunity to work for you for free in opportunity to work for you for free in opportunity to work for you for free in exchange for knowledge and connections. exchange for knowledge and connections. exchange for knowledge and connections. >> Wow. Well, I'm super honored by that. >> Wow. Well, I'm super honored by that. >> Wow. Well, I'm super honored by that. Really truly. Uh the bad news is the Really truly. Uh the bad news is the Really truly. Uh the bad news is the state of California will find me if I do state of California will find me if I do state of California will find me if I do that. So, alas, uh take it up with Gavin that. So, alas, uh take it up with Gavin that. So, alas, uh take it up with Gavin Newsome because yeah, I think it's Newsome because yeah, I think it's Newsome because yeah, I think it's stupid. We used to do it. They made it stupid. We used to do it. They made it stupid. We used to do it. They made it illegal. We had to stop. Um, so but it's illegal. We had to stop. Um, so but it's illegal. We had to stop. Um, so but it's nonetheless exactly what I would advise nonetheless exactly what I would advise nonetheless exactly what I would advise people to do and the number of times people to do and the number of times people to do and the number of times I've worked for free just to get [ __ ] I've worked for free just to get [ __ ] I've worked for free just to get [ __ ] information is legion. Um, so yeah, and information is legion. Um, so yeah, and information is legion. Um, so yeah, and I did it when I was poor. I will I did it when I was poor. I will I did it when I was poor. I will obviously doing it now is not really a obviously doing it now is not really a obviously doing it now is not really a big deal, but yeah, I would do it in a big deal, but yeah, I would do it in a big deal, but yeah, I would do it in a heartbeat. Uh, Andrea 2798 says, "Didn't heartbeat. Uh, Andrea 2798 says, "Didn't heartbeat. Uh, Andrea 2798 says, "Didn't the Dutch farmers protest the the Dutch farmers protest the the Dutch farmers protest the government's green regulations a few government's green regulations a few government's green regulations a few years ago? Unrealized gains hugely years ago? Unrealized gains hugely years ago? Unrealized gains hugely impact farmers by ways of crops, impact farmers by ways of crops, impact farmers by ways of crops, livestock, and other output value. Are livestock, and other output value. Are livestock, and other output value. Are there special rules for farmers? there special rules for farmers? there special rules for farmers? >> I don't know. I would think probably >> I don't know. I would think probably >> I don't know. I would think probably like I'll give the Dutch some credit. like I'll give the Dutch some credit. like I'll give the Dutch some credit. They've tried to at least limit the They've tried to at least limit the They've tried to at least limit the retardation of the bill. So, while I retardation of the bill. So, while I retardation of the bill. So, while I didn't come across that specific thing didn't come across that specific thing didn't come across that specific thing in my research and that was not on my in my research and that was not on my in my research and that was not on my radar, so I didn't specifically look it radar, so I didn't specifically look it radar, so I didn't specifically look it up. Um, I don't know. But I'll give them up. Um, I don't know. But I'll give them up. Um, I don't know. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say the benefit of the doubt and say the benefit of the doubt and say probably. That doesn't feel like who probably. That doesn't feel like who probably. That doesn't feel like who they're trying to tax here. they're trying to tax here. they're trying to tax here. Uh and lastly from Sequoia Hall 1695. Uh and lastly from Sequoia Hall 1695. Uh and lastly from Sequoia Hall 1695. Wonder how many people will die earlier Wonder how many people will die earlier Wonder how many people will die earlier deaths with the elimination of emission deaths with the elimination of emission deaths with the elimination of emission laws in the USA. Why only for profit is laws in the USA. Why only for profit is laws in the USA. Why only for profit is the answer. How many have to die for the answer. How many have to die for the answer. How many have to die for profit over people? Regulatory capture profit over people? Regulatory capture profit over people? Regulatory capture at work for big oil. at work for big oil. at work for big oil. >> Yeah, this is an interesting take. So >> Yeah, this is an interesting take. So >> Yeah, this is an interesting take. So you've got Trump who is doing things you've got Trump who is doing things you've got Trump who is doing things that I think are smart and necessary in that I think are smart and necessary in that I think are smart and necessary in terms of energy production. terms of energy production. terms of energy production. uh we unfortunately at this point are uh we unfortunately at this point are uh we unfortunately at this point are still in a position where one of the and still in a position where one of the and still in a position where one of the and get ready for this one of the cleanest get ready for this one of the cleanest get ready for this one of the cleanest uh energies when you take everything uh energies when you take everything uh energies when you take everything into consideration still remains I think into consideration still remains I think into consideration still remains I think like liquid natural gas so it's fossil like liquid natural gas so it's fossil like liquid natural gas so it's fossil fuels still have a role to play and we fuels still have a role to play and we fuels still have a role to play and we have not yet gotten um electric to be as have not yet gotten um electric to be as have not yet gotten um electric to be as clean when you look at the whole supply clean when you look at the whole supply clean when you look at the whole supply chain as we would like it to be. chain as we would like it to be. chain as we would like it to be. Certainly isn't as efficient as we would Certainly isn't as efficient as we would Certainly isn't as efficient as we would like it to be. So the future I think is like it to be. So the future I think is like it to be. So the future I think is pretty clearly solar in terms of uh if pretty clearly solar in terms of uh if pretty clearly solar in terms of uh if you look at all the mass in the you look at all the mass in the you look at all the mass in the universe, it's basically all the sun. universe, it's basically all the sun. universe, it's basically all the sun. Not the universe, excuse me, in the Not the universe, excuse me, in the Not the universe, excuse me, in the solar system, it's basically all the solar system, it's basically all the solar system, it's basically all the sun. Uh so everything here on Earth is sun. Uh so everything here on Earth is sun. Uh so everything here on Earth is going to be a rounding error. Um so going to be a rounding error. Um so going to be a rounding error. Um so you've got to find a way to capture that you've got to find a way to capture that you've got to find a way to capture that energy. Um so is deregulation energy. Um so is deregulation energy. Um so is deregulation usually the right answer? Yes. is has usually the right answer? Yes. is has usually the right answer? Yes. is has the energy policies gotten away from us? the energy policies gotten away from us? the energy policies gotten away from us? Yes. Will Yes. Will Yes. Will backing away from a pursuit of clean backing away from a pursuit of clean backing away from a pursuit of clean energy because the way we've been doing energy because the way we've been doing energy because the way we've been doing it I would say is not clean nor is it it I would say is not clean nor is it it I would say is not clean nor is it good for the public. But like I bet good for the public. But like I bet good for the public. But like I bet partly what's in Sequoia's mind is in partly what's in Sequoia's mind is in partly what's in Sequoia's mind is in the I think it was the 80s maybe 70s and the I think it was the 80s maybe 70s and the I think it was the 80s maybe 70s and 80s uh in California they passed a bunch 80s uh in California they passed a bunch 80s uh in California they passed a bunch of regulations around leaded gas and it of regulations around leaded gas and it of regulations around leaded gas and it had a massive impact. So there are very had a massive impact. So there are very had a massive impact. So there are very positive things that you can do from a positive things that you can do from a positive things that you can do from a regulatory standpoint that have very regulatory standpoint that have very regulatory standpoint that have very measurable effects in the health and measurable effects in the health and measurable effects in the health and outcomes of people. And so it can I outcomes of people. And so it can I outcomes of people. And so it can I think he's very right to point out this think he's very right to point out this think he's very right to point out this can very quickly become regulatory can very quickly become regulatory can very quickly become regulatory capture of instead of him trying to make capture of instead of him trying to make capture of instead of him trying to make sure that we're competitive on the sure that we're competitive on the sure that we're competitive on the global stage we're energy efficient all global stage we're energy efficient all global stage we're energy efficient all that that the difference between the that that the difference between the that that the difference between the subtle nuances that you could do in a subtle nuances that you could do in a subtle nuances that you could do in a policy that will make it both unlock uh policy that will make it both unlock uh policy that will make it both unlock uh economic growth and protect people economic growth and protect people economic growth and protect people suddenly becomes just whatever is better suddenly becomes just whatever is better suddenly becomes just whatever is better for big corporations. And so that fear for big corporations. And so that fear for big corporations. And so that fear of regulatory capture is uh very of regulatory capture is uh very of regulatory capture is uh very worthwhile, very worthwhile. There's no worthwhile, very worthwhile. There's no worthwhile, very worthwhile. There's no doubt. And then humans are absolutely doubt. And then humans are absolutely doubt. And then humans are absolutely terrible at figuring out long-term terrible at figuring out long-term terrible at figuring out long-term consequences and weighing that consequences and weighing that consequences and weighing that appropriately to um deciding what to do appropriately to um deciding what to do appropriately to um deciding what to do in the short term. So there's no doubt in the short term. So there's no doubt in the short term. So there's no doubt that there will there would be a smart that there will there would be a smart that there will there would be a smart path to deregulation and a dumb path. path to deregulation and a dumb path. path to deregulation and a dumb path. and the odds that given how many people and the odds that given how many people and the odds that given how many people the Trump administration has fired that the Trump administration has fired that the Trump administration has fired that would be handling these regulations, you would be handling these regulations, you would be handling these regulations, you can basically do a poly market that can basically do a poly market that can basically do a poly market that they'll do it the dumb way and be they'll do it the dumb way and be they'll do it the dumb way and be guaranteed to win. So I feel him on guaranteed to win. So I feel him on guaranteed to win. So I feel him on that. While I do think that there is that. While I do think that there is that. While I do think that there is deregulation that needs to happen and deregulation that needs to happen and deregulation that needs to happen and that we were headed in a stupid that we were headed in a stupid that we were headed in a stupid direction. Do you think that there is a direction. Do you think that there is a direction. Do you think that there is a line between line between line between cuz when I was growing up emissions were cuz when I was growing up emissions were cuz when I was growing up emissions were bad because of smog. We didn't want a bad because of smog. We didn't want a bad because of smog. We didn't want a China society where it's gray in the air China society where it's gray in the air China society where it's gray in the air and, you know, black smoke is coming out and, you know, black smoke is coming out and, you know, black smoke is coming out of every car, carbon monoxide, lung of every car, carbon monoxide, lung of every car, carbon monoxide, lung cancer. These were kind of the fears cancer. These were kind of the fears cancer. These were kind of the fears that were waved. that were waved. that were waved. >> Now, I'm not saying we need to >> Now, I'm not saying we need to >> Now, I'm not saying we need to completely transition into solar and completely transition into solar and completely transition into solar and EVs. I was thinking about buying an EV. EVs. I was thinking about buying an EV. EVs. I was thinking about buying an EV. Then I realized how difficult it was and Then I realized how difficult it was and Then I realized how difficult it was and how it would actually cost me more than how it would actually cost me more than how it would actually cost me more than gas in California. gas in California. gas in California. >> So, it's one of those things now where >> So, it's one of those things now where >> So, it's one of those things now where it's like, okay, this doesn't make sense it's like, okay, this doesn't make sense it's like, okay, this doesn't make sense for me either. Um, but there is a line for me either. Um, but there is a line for me either. Um, but there is a line between we shouldn't have black smoke between we shouldn't have black smoke between we shouldn't have black smoke coming out of cars, but we also coming out of cars, but we also coming out of cars, but we also shouldn't try to out China when we don't shouldn't try to out China when we don't shouldn't try to out China when we don't have the supply chains, we don't build have the supply chains, we don't build have the supply chains, we don't build none of the products, we're kind of none of the products, we're kind of none of the products, we're kind of leaving oursel there. So, do you think leaving oursel there. So, do you think leaving oursel there. So, do you think we'll ever get away from this oil we'll ever get away from this oil we'll ever get away from this oil economy or is it economy or is it economy or is it >> We'll definitely get away from the oil >> We'll definitely get away from the oil >> We'll definitely get away from the oil economy because you want to put people economy because you want to put people economy because you want to put people in a position where all they have to do in a position where all they have to do in a position where all they have to do is pursue their selfish interest. And is pursue their selfish interest. And is pursue their selfish interest. And right now you've got your greatest right now you've got your greatest right now you've got your greatest aggregator of engineers, Elon Musk, that aggregator of engineers, Elon Musk, that aggregator of engineers, Elon Musk, that is um focused on energy, focused on is um focused on energy, focused on is um focused on energy, focused on solar, understanding how um some of the solar, understanding how um some of the solar, understanding how um some of the problems that we're facing here on Earth problems that we're facing here on Earth problems that we're facing here on Earth in terms of um the atmosphere like in terms of um the atmosphere like in terms of um the atmosphere like causing problems with the sun. And so I causing problems with the sun. And so I causing problems with the sun. And so I think he's going to be doing a lot of think he's going to be doing a lot of think he's going to be doing a lot of very interesting energy um testing and very interesting energy um testing and very interesting energy um testing and having to advance that to not only keep having to advance that to not only keep having to advance that to not only keep um Tesla cars viable if he plans to do um Tesla cars viable if he plans to do um Tesla cars viable if he plans to do that post robotics or not. Uh but that's that post robotics or not. Uh but that's that post robotics or not. Uh but that's certainly going to help. And then certainly going to help. And then certainly going to help. And then getting outside of Earth and looking at getting outside of Earth and looking at getting outside of Earth and looking at things like can we mine asteroids and things like can we mine asteroids and things like can we mine asteroids and things like that. So it it becomes a things like that. So it it becomes a things like that. So it it becomes a question of timeline. Are we going to question of timeline. Are we going to question of timeline. Are we going to move away from fossil fuels in the next move away from fossil fuels in the next move away from fossil fuels in the next 20 years? I don't know. Look to solar 20 years? I don't know. Look to solar 20 years? I don't know. Look to solar for that answer. If we can advance that for that answer. If we can advance that for that answer. If we can advance that enough, enough, enough, >> um, we know the answer and it's just a >> um, we know the answer and it's just a >> um, we know the answer and it's just a question of whether we can avoid question of whether we can avoid question of whether we can avoid regulatory capture to the point where we regulatory capture to the point where we regulatory capture to the point where we can free up the free market. Because can free up the free market. Because can free up the free market. Because think about being an entrepreneur for a think about being an entrepreneur for a think about being an entrepreneur for a second. You're like, I just want to be a second. You're like, I just want to be a second. You're like, I just want to be a billionaire. I want to be a billionaire. I want to be a billionaire. I want to be a trillionaire. I'm a I'm a 13-year-old trillionaire. I'm a I'm a 13-year-old trillionaire. I'm a I'm a 13-year-old wonderkinned and I want to be uh a wonderkinned and I want to be uh a wonderkinned and I want to be uh a trillionaire. Cool. What are you going trillionaire. Cool. What are you going trillionaire. Cool. What are you going to do? You're going to be focusing on a to do? You're going to be focusing on a to do? You're going to be focusing on a big sector. Energy is a gigantic sector. big sector. Energy is a gigantic sector. big sector. Energy is a gigantic sector. You're going to look at what's the You're going to look at what's the You're going to look at what's the lowest hanging fruit. The answer there lowest hanging fruit. The answer there lowest hanging fruit. The answer there certainly not oil. The answer there is certainly not oil. The answer there is certainly not oil. The answer there is going to be the sun. And so it's like, going to be the sun. And so it's like, going to be the sun. And so it's like, oh, if I can make, and this is me not oh, if I can make, and this is me not oh, if I can make, and this is me not knowing enough about the industry, if I knowing enough about the industry, if I knowing enough about the industry, if I can make a better photovolic cell, can make a better photovolic cell, can make a better photovolic cell, whatever. I'm going to go do that. So, whatever. I'm going to go do that. So, whatever. I'm going to go do that. So, I'm a 13-year-old. I'm extraordinarily I'm a 13-year-old. I'm extraordinarily I'm a 13-year-old. I'm extraordinarily bright. I grab AI and I literally start bright. I grab AI and I literally start bright. I grab AI and I literally start making solar panels in my basement. Uh, making solar panels in my basement. Uh, making solar panels in my basement. Uh, look at Palmer Lucky if you think this look at Palmer Lucky if you think this look at Palmer Lucky if you think this sounds ridiculous. So, this is exactly sounds ridiculous. So, this is exactly sounds ridiculous. So, this is exactly the kind of [ __ ] that he did. obviously the kind of [ __ ] that he did. obviously the kind of [ __ ] that he did. obviously ends up making himself extraordinarily ends up making himself extraordinarily ends up making himself extraordinarily successful as an engineer, successful as an engineer, successful as an engineer, extraordinarily wealthy, and so you want extraordinarily wealthy, and so you want extraordinarily wealthy, and so you want that kind of innovation. But again, you that kind of innovation. But again, you that kind of innovation. But again, you want to celebrate that kid. We don't want to celebrate that kid. We don't want to celebrate that kid. We don't celebrate that kid anymore. Um, so if we celebrate that kid anymore. Um, so if we celebrate that kid anymore. Um, so if we can get to the point where we get back can get to the point where we get back can get to the point where we get back to celebrating people for busting ass, to celebrating people for busting ass, to celebrating people for busting ass, celebrating people for really trying to celebrating people for really trying to celebrating people for really trying to innovate, uh, recognizing that innovate, uh, recognizing that innovate, uh, recognizing that regulation uh, is good at like the 10% regulation uh, is good at like the 10% regulation uh, is good at like the 10% mark and catastrophic at the rate that mark and catastrophic at the rate that mark and catastrophic at the rate that we're at now. And so you want very we're at now. And so you want very we're at now. And so you want very thoughtful, very um minimal regulations thoughtful, very um minimal regulations thoughtful, very um minimal regulations and you want to unlock that innovation. and you want to unlock that innovation. and you want to unlock that innovation. And if we could do that, then we might And if we could do that, then we might And if we could do that, then we might be able to move away faster than we be able to move away faster than we be able to move away faster than we think. But it's going to happen via think. But it's going to happen via think. But it's going to happen via innovation, not regulation. innovation, not regulation. innovation, not regulation. >> What about incentives? Is it? >> What about incentives? Is it? >> What about incentives? Is it? >> Yeah. I mean, show me the incentives. >> Yeah. I mean, show me the incentives. >> Yeah. I mean, show me the incentives. I'll show you the outcome. But it what I'll show you the outcome. But it what I'll show you the outcome. But it what ends up happening to Sequoia's point is ends up happening to Sequoia's point is ends up happening to Sequoia's point is you get regulatory capture. And so now you get regulatory capture. And so now you get regulatory capture. And so now the corporations go in and go, "Ah, the corporations go in and go, "Ah, the corporations go in and go, "Ah, cool. Finally, we've got some momentum cool. Finally, we've got some momentum cool. Finally, we've got some momentum around moving away from the green around moving away from the green around moving away from the green insanity. And you have me, right? Like insanity. And you have me, right? Like insanity. And you have me, right? Like I'm on the Beyond Lornberg uh train of I'm on the Beyond Lornberg uh train of I'm on the Beyond Lornberg uh train of like this is important, but it's not like this is important, but it's not like this is important, but it's not what you guys are painting it to be. And what you guys are painting it to be. And what you guys are painting it to be. And I wish you had just never lied about it I wish you had just never lied about it I wish you had just never lied about it because if you just told people the real because if you just told people the real because if you just told people the real story, and we all went, okay, this is story, and we all went, okay, this is story, and we all went, okay, this is something we want to start marching in something we want to start marching in something we want to start marching in the right direction on this. Uh but we the right direction on this. Uh but we the right direction on this. Uh but we don't want to like do all the dumb [ __ ] don't want to like do all the dumb [ __ ] don't want to like do all the dumb [ __ ] and jack energy costs up and instead of and jack energy costs up and instead of and jack energy costs up and instead of people going green, they just start people going green, they just start people going green, they just start buying fossil fuels from Russia. It's buying fossil fuels from Russia. It's buying fossil fuels from Russia. It's like it it's all [ __ ] asinine. So, um like it it's all [ __ ] asinine. So, um like it it's all [ __ ] asinine. So, um if we could get people into that camp, if we could get people into that camp, if we could get people into that camp, that would be awesome. But I just we're that would be awesome. But I just we're that would be awesome. But I just we're not exactly known for our ability to um not exactly known for our ability to um not exactly known for our ability to um metabolize nuance to the point where metabolize nuance to the point where metabolize nuance to the point where using the word metabolize was me making using the word metabolize was me making using the word metabolize was me making a point. Like I in my head is an a point. Like I in my head is an a point. Like I in my head is an algorithm running at all times saying algorithm running at all times saying algorithm running at all times saying speak at a sixth grade level. Um and so speak at a sixth grade level. Um and so speak at a sixth grade level. Um and so that reality about where we're at is that reality about where we're at is that reality about where we're at is part of our problem. part of our problem. part of our problem. >> That's real. Um, we just got a swarm of >> That's real. Um, we just got a swarm of >> That's real. Um, we just got a swarm of super chat. super chat. super chat. >> Yeah, we got three at the buzzer. >> Yeah, we got three at the buzzer. >> Yeah, we got three at the buzzer. >> Yeah, [laughter] super chat. Let's go. >> Yeah, [laughter] super chat. Let's go. >> Yeah, [laughter] super chat. Let's go. >> Uh, first up, Houston 911 says, "Take a >> Uh, first up, Houston 911 says, "Take a >> Uh, first up, Houston 911 says, "Take a vote for interview candidate. I vote vote for interview candidate. I vote vote for interview candidate. I vote KK." And no one knew who they were KK." And no one knew who they were KK." And no one knew who they were talking about, so someone said, talking about, so someone said, talking about, so someone said, "Congrat." "Congrat." "Congrat." So, yeah, I assume it's Constantine So, yeah, I assume it's Constantine So, yeah, I assume it's Constantine Kissen. Um, so I know KK uh well, and we Kissen. Um, so I know KK uh well, and we Kissen. Um, so I know KK uh well, and we are trying to align something for March. are trying to align something for March. are trying to align something for March. No promises because we actually didn't No promises because we actually didn't No promises because we actually didn't talk about filming. I just want to see talk about filming. I just want to see talk about filming. I just want to see him as a person because I like him and him as a person because I like him and him as a person because I like him and care about him. Uh, but I'm hoping that care about him. Uh, but I'm hoping that care about him. Uh, but I'm hoping that he'll be available to shoot at that he'll be available to shoot at that he'll be available to shoot at that time. We'll see. Uh, I will certainly time. We'll see. Uh, I will certainly time. We'll see. Uh, I will certainly tell him that you guys want to see him tell him that you guys want to see him tell him that you guys want to see him back on the show. Um, he's awesome. back on the show. Um, he's awesome. back on the show. Um, he's awesome. >> Uh, next up is Mark T. Banker. Enjoyed >> Uh, next up is Mark T. Banker. Enjoyed >> Uh, next up is Mark T. Banker. Enjoyed the interview with Lisa. Like Tom, I the interview with Lisa. Like Tom, I the interview with Lisa. Like Tom, I held my nose and voted for Trump because held my nose and voted for Trump because held my nose and voted for Trump because of the bigger issues beyond his of the bigger issues beyond his of the bigger issues beyond his concerning morals. 99% of them are concerning morals. 99% of them are concerning morals. 99% of them are immoral. Uh, immoral. When we vote now, immoral. Uh, immoral. When we vote now, immoral. Uh, immoral. When we vote now, it's like having to pick between Putin it's like having to pick between Putin it's like having to pick between Putin and she. and she. and she. >> That's a little too real. That is a >> That's a little too real. That is a >> That's a little too real. That is a little too real. Yeah. What flavor do little too real. Yeah. What flavor do little too real. Yeah. What flavor do you want your fascism? That That's the you want your fascism? That That's the you want your fascism? That That's the all too accurate question. God, that's all too accurate question. God, that's all too accurate question. God, that's depressing. depressing. depressing. >> Uh, Ignitable Grim says, "I was >> Uh, Ignitable Grim says, "I was >> Uh, Ignitable Grim says, "I was listening to your Wednesday live at work listening to your Wednesday live at work listening to your Wednesday live at work last night. You were talking about last night. You were talking about last night. You were talking about people using AI uh using AI the advanced people using AI uh using AI the advanced people using AI uh using AI the advanced them to advance themselves and those them to advance themselves and those them to advance themselves and those that kind of mock them for it." I am one that kind of mock them for it." I am one that kind of mock them for it." I am one of those people. I have 15 years of of those people. I have 15 years of of those people. I have 15 years of experience. experience. experience. >> Yeah. Another one like >> Yeah. Another one like >> Yeah. Another one like >> mock people for using AI. Uh, it says, >> mock people for using AI. Uh, it says, >> mock people for using AI. Uh, it says, "I have 15 years of experience in using "I have 15 years of experience in using "I have 15 years of experience in using it to fine-tune and R&D gelato recipes it to fine-tune and R&D gelato recipes it to fine-tune and R&D gelato recipes to start a business. My husband kind of to start a business. My husband kind of to start a business. My husband kind of makes fun of me using for that. I know I makes fun of me using for that. I know I makes fun of me using for that. I know I have gained several years of knowledge have gained several years of knowledge have gained several years of knowledge in the last few months." in the last few months." in the last few months." >> Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. So, I >> Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. So, I >> Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. So, I mean, okay, look, you're anybody who's mean, okay, look, you're anybody who's mean, okay, look, you're anybody who's mocking you, your wife or anybody else, mocking you, your wife or anybody else, mocking you, your wife or anybody else, they have a base assumption that they're they have a base assumption that they're they have a base assumption that they're running something on. And if you can running something on. And if you can running something on. And if you can figure out exactly what that is, then figure out exactly what that is, then figure out exactly what that is, then you can at least have the conversation you can at least have the conversation you can at least have the conversation at that level. Um, otherwise, yeah, at that level. Um, otherwise, yeah, at that level. Um, otherwise, yeah, I go back to don't try to convince other I go back to don't try to convince other I go back to don't try to convince other people. None of that matters. people. None of that matters. people. None of that matters. Ultimately, you want to be in a position Ultimately, you want to be in a position Ultimately, you want to be in a position where you know what is making sense. You where you know what is making sense. You where you know what is making sense. You know what's yielding the outcomes that know what's yielding the outcomes that know what's yielding the outcomes that you want. You know where you're trying you want. You know where you're trying you want. You know where you're trying to get to and you're doing the things to get to and you're doing the things to get to and you're doing the things that are going to lead you there. Uh, that are going to lead you there. Uh, that are going to lead you there. Uh, and then just keep doing that and it it and then just keep doing that and it it and then just keep doing that and it it will all come out in the wash. Think will all come out in the wash. Think will all come out in the wash. Think about this. When I was broke and working about this. When I was broke and working about this. When I was broke and working around the clock, people were heranging around the clock, people were heranging around the clock, people were heranging me. What are you doing? Why are you me. What are you doing? Why are you me. What are you doing? Why are you doing that for? This is so crazy. like doing that for? This is so crazy. like doing that for? This is so crazy. like you're giving up because I basically you're giving up because I basically you're giving up because I basically sold my 20s and most of my 30s in sold my 20s and most of my 30s in sold my 20s and most of my 30s in pursuit of accomplishment and people pursuit of accomplishment and people pursuit of accomplishment and people just thought I was out of my mind and just thought I was out of my mind and just thought I was out of my mind and then when it works all of a sudden it's then when it works all of a sudden it's then when it works all of a sudden it's like everybody wants to know how you did like everybody wants to know how you did like everybody wants to know how you did it and oh my god that's so incredible it and oh my god that's so incredible it and oh my god that's so incredible and so you're like wow this is really and so you're like wow this is really and so you're like wow this is really weird when you have the punchline it weird when you have the punchline it weird when you have the punchline it becomes very easy for everybody to be on becomes very easy for everybody to be on becomes very easy for everybody to be on your team for the way that you behaved your team for the way that you behaved your team for the way that you behaved but before you have the punch line but before you have the punch line but before you have the punch line nobody believes it so don't worry about nobody believes it so don't worry about nobody believes it so don't worry about that just stay focused on progress rate that just stay focused on progress rate that just stay focused on progress rate of change matters okay when I'm teaching of change matters okay when I'm teaching of change matters okay when I'm teaching entrepreneurs entrepreneurs entrepreneurs Which by the way, boys and girls, sign Which by the way, boys and girls, sign Which by the way, boys and girls, sign up for impact theory university zero to up for impact theory university zero to up for impact theory university zero to founder. I'm obsessed. We're swinging founder. I'm obsessed. We're swinging founder. I'm obsessed. We're swinging all of our resources now to zero to all of our resources now to zero to all of our resources now to zero to founder because um with what's happening founder because um with what's happening founder because um with what's happening in AI, we are finding people flooding in AI, we are finding people flooding in AI, we are finding people flooding into that. So rack rate of change is one into that. So rack rate of change is one into that. So rack rate of change is one of the things that I'm always teaching of the things that I'm always teaching of the things that I'm always teaching entrepreneurs about because what people entrepreneurs about because what people entrepreneurs about because what people end up missing is like maybe you haven't end up missing is like maybe you haven't end up missing is like maybe you haven't hit your goal yet, but if your rate of hit your goal yet, but if your rate of hit your goal yet, but if your rate of change is good, like you're moving change is good, like you're moving change is good, like you're moving really fast, then odds are you're on the really fast, then odds are you're on the really fast, then odds are you're on the right path. If your rack is bad and right path. If your rack is bad and right path. If your rack is bad and you're progressing, but like if you map you're progressing, but like if you map you're progressing, but like if you map it out, it's, you know, 65 years to get it out, it's, you know, 65 years to get it out, it's, you know, 65 years to get where you're going to go, where you want where you're going to go, where you want where you're going to go, where you want to go. Um, then it doesn't matter. You to go. Um, then it doesn't matter. You to go. Um, then it doesn't matter. You should just assume the path that you're should just assume the path that you're should just assume the path that you're on is failing. If people can develop on is failing. If people can develop on is failing. If people can develop that kind of clarity, it doesn't matter that kind of clarity, it doesn't matter that kind of clarity, it doesn't matter what my wife thinks. It doesn't matter what my wife thinks. It doesn't matter what my wife thinks. It doesn't matter what the world thinks. It doesn't matter what the world thinks. It doesn't matter what the world thinks. It doesn't matter who's trolling me on the internet. I'm who's trolling me on the internet. I'm who's trolling me on the internet. I'm just looking at my rack. And if that's just looking at my rack. And if that's just looking at my rack. And if that's good, I keep going. And if it's bad, good, I keep going. And if it's bad, good, I keep going. And if it's bad, then I'm going to change direction. And then I'm going to change direction. And then I'm going to change direction. And not because somebody told me to or not not because somebody told me to or not not because somebody told me to or not because I'm embarrassed. just that's the because I'm embarrassed. just that's the because I'm embarrassed. just that's the wise thing to do. wise thing to do. wise thing to do. >> I also like looking at Rex. >> I also like looking at Rex. >> I also like looking at Rex. >> I knew someone was going to do that. >> I knew someone was going to do that. >> I knew someone was going to do that. >> We also have another super chat. >> We also have another super chat. >> We also have another super chat. >> I thought it would be in the comments, >> I thought it would be in the comments, >> I thought it would be in the comments, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> but Drew's on point today. >> but Drew's on point today. >> but Drew's on point today. >> From Marushia Dark again. Uh, new >> From Marushia Dark again. Uh, new >> From Marushia Dark again. Uh, new evidence emerged that shows Trump was evidence emerged that shows Trump was evidence emerged that shows Trump was the OG whistleblower against Epstein as the OG whistleblower against Epstein as the OG whistleblower against Epstein as far back as 2006, and he's been an FBI far back as 2006, and he's been an FBI far back as 2006, and he's been an FBI informant. informant. informant. >> Plus, all the clips of him calling Jeff >> Plus, all the clips of him calling Jeff >> Plus, all the clips of him calling Jeff a creep. Goes to motive. Tim P did a a creep. Goes to motive. Tim P did a a creep. Goes to motive. Tim P did a video on this. Yes, but can we not agree video on this. Yes, but can we not agree video on this. Yes, but can we not agree it's a little weird when he was like it's a little weird when he was like it's a little weird when he was like trying to wave everybody off of it. So, trying to wave everybody off of it. So, trying to wave everybody off of it. So, I think you have a couple paths that I think you have a couple paths that I think you have a couple paths that will play out over time. Um, Trump was will play out over time. Um, Trump was will play out over time. Um, Trump was in Epstein's orbit because we'd all be in Epstein's orbit because we'd all be in Epstein's orbit because we'd all be mortified by his object objectification mortified by his object objectification mortified by his object objectification of women that it it crosses some line of women that it it crosses some line of women that it it crosses some line maybe. Don't know. I don't know the guy. maybe. Don't know. I don't know the guy. maybe. Don't know. I don't know the guy. Just I think everybody can see that's a Just I think everybody can see that's a Just I think everybody can see that's a very plausible uh belief. But Epstein very plausible uh belief. But Epstein very plausible uh belief. But Epstein spills over into like actual crimes and spills over into like actual crimes and spills over into like actual crimes and so Trump draws the line. He could also so Trump draws the line. He could also so Trump draws the line. He could also be drawing the line because they had be drawing the line because they had be drawing the line because they had some sort of business thing that went some sort of business thing that went some sort of business thing that went south and he just sees it as a south and he just sees it as a south and he just sees it as a vulnerability and he's going after him vulnerability and he's going after him vulnerability and he's going after him and this is not being altruistic because and this is not being altruistic because and this is not being altruistic because the bad news is I could be wrong but I'm the bad news is I could be wrong but I'm the bad news is I could be wrong but I'm reading this as Trump's trying to reading this as Trump's trying to reading this as Trump's trying to protect his powerful friends. And so protect his powerful friends. And so protect his powerful friends. And so it's like that's also horrifying. it's like that's also horrifying. it's like that's also horrifying. And so it's like he's going to protect And so it's like he's going to protect And so it's like he's going to protect people because it's expedient people because it's expedient people because it's expedient politically or because they're your politically or because they're your politically or because they're your friends. It's like God. So all of that friends. It's like God. So all of that friends. It's like God. So all of that is horrible. But I have a very negative is horrible. But I have a very negative is horrible. But I have a very negative view of politicians just in the first view of politicians just in the first view of politicians just in the first place because unfortunately I think that place because unfortunately I think that place because unfortunately I think that from what is it like to be a human from what is it like to be a human from what is it like to be a human perspective, if you want things to go perspective, if you want things to go perspective, if you want things to go your way, if you want stability, this is your way, if you want stability, this is your way, if you want stability, this is this is a hard one to admit. If you want this is a hard one to admit. If you want this is a hard one to admit. If you want stability, I think one of the most stability, I think one of the most stability, I think one of the most efficient things you can do is lie to efficient things you can do is lie to efficient things you can do is lie to people. facto. facto. >> No, I paused for effect [laughter] >> No, I paused for effect [laughter] >> No, I paused for effect [laughter] because this is one that if you don't because this is one that if you don't because this is one that if you don't have a rule in your own life, so like my have a rule in your own life, so like my have a rule in your own life, so like my thing is if people map me as I'm trying thing is if people map me as I'm trying thing is if people map me as I'm trying to earn my own respect, I'll make a lot to earn my own respect, I'll make a lot to earn my own respect, I'll make a lot more sense because I will was admitting more sense because I will was admitting more sense because I will was admitting this to the team the other day. Um to this to the team the other day. Um to this to the team the other day. Um to earn my respect, I have to contribute to earn my respect, I have to contribute to earn my respect, I have to contribute to the group. And so part of why I work the the group. And so part of why I work the the group. And so part of why I work the way that I do and I focus on the things way that I do and I focus on the things way that I do and I focus on the things that I focus on is because I really that I focus on is because I really that I focus on is because I really believe in this moment in human history believe in this moment in human history believe in this moment in human history with my particular passions and skill with my particular passions and skill with my particular passions and skill sets, the way that I can contribute to sets, the way that I can contribute to sets, the way that I can contribute to the group is to help people think the group is to help people think the group is to help people think through things from first principles uh through things from first principles uh through things from first principles uh to map cause and effect yada yada. Okay, to map cause and effect yada yada. Okay, to map cause and effect yada yada. Okay, cool. I could probably make a lot more cool. I could probably make a lot more cool. I could probably make a lot more money if I shut down the show. I stopped money if I shut down the show. I stopped money if I shut down the show. I stopped doing all of this and I just invested. doing all of this and I just invested. doing all of this and I just invested. Um so that's where it's like, okay, Um so that's where it's like, okay, Um so that's where it's like, okay, yeah, but that wouldn't earn my own yeah, but that wouldn't earn my own yeah, but that wouldn't earn my own respect. Not saying I completely take it respect. Not saying I completely take it respect. Not saying I completely take it off the table, but for now I just keep off the table, but for now I just keep off the table, but for now I just keep coming back to well to earn my own coming back to well to earn my own coming back to well to earn my own respect I have to do this. So if you respect I have to do this. So if you respect I have to do this. So if you don't have that kind of internal thing don't have that kind of internal thing don't have that kind of internal thing that says this, it does not earn my that says this, it does not earn my that says this, it does not earn my respect to shelter people that have done respect to shelter people that have done respect to shelter people that have done truly horrific things and the only ones truly horrific things and the only ones truly horrific things and the only ones I rat on are people that have I I've had I rat on are people that have I I've had I rat on are people that have I I've had some sort of personal conflict with. Now some sort of personal conflict with. Now some sort of personal conflict with. Now again, I don't know that that's what hap again, I don't know that that's what hap again, I don't know that that's what hap what what is happening. Maybe I have a what what is happening. Maybe I have a what what is happening. Maybe I have a hard time believing it, but maybe that hard time believing it, but maybe that hard time believing it, but maybe that was the only person that he had really was the only person that he had really was the only person that he had really inside knowledge on. Uh, and so we inside knowledge on. Uh, and so we inside knowledge on. Uh, and so we should all be applauding him for being should all be applauding him for being should all be applauding him for being the one to turn him in. But if I had the one to turn him in. But if I had the one to turn him in. But if I had done that, why wouldn't he be beating done that, why wouldn't he be beating done that, why wouldn't he be beating that drum? Why wouldn't he want this that drum? Why wouldn't he want this that drum? Why wouldn't he want this stuff to come out? Because he knows it's stuff to come out? Because he knows it's stuff to come out? Because he knows it's going to come out and it's going to going to come out and it's going to going to come out and it's going to venerate him. Not only exonerate him, venerate him. Not only exonerate him, venerate him. Not only exonerate him, but actually venerate him. He's not but actually venerate him. He's not but actually venerate him. He's not doing that. Uh, and I have a feeling doing that. Uh, and I have a feeling doing that. Uh, and I have a feeling it's because a lot of the stuff in the it's because a lot of the stuff in the it's because a lot of the stuff in the Epstein files is going to be very, very Epstein files is going to be very, very Epstein files is going to be very, very questionable. We'll see. questionable. We'll see. questionable. We'll see. >> Uh, all right. This is a new segment I'm >> Uh, all right. This is a new segment I'm >> Uh, all right. This is a new segment I'm trying. Tom doesn't even know about it. trying. Tom doesn't even know about it. trying. Tom doesn't even know about it. And it's called You're Not Mad Enough. And it's called You're Not Mad Enough. And it's called You're Not Mad Enough. Um, the White House Um, the White House Um, the White House >> I already like this segment. >> I already like this segment. >> I already like this segment. >> The White House were unable to track 6.2 >> The White House were unable to track 6.2 >> The White House were unable to track 6.2 billion sent to Ukraine. California were billion sent to Ukraine. California were billion sent to Ukraine. California were unable to track $24 billion spent to unable to track $24 billion spent to unable to track $24 billion spent to combat homelessness. The Pentagon were combat homelessness. The Pentagon were combat homelessness. The Pentagon were unable to track $2.3 trillion of unable to track $2.3 trillion of unable to track $2.3 trillion of military spending. military spending. military spending. >> Trillion. >> Trillion. >> Trillion. >> That's with a T. The US Treasury were >> That's with a T. The US Treasury were >> That's with a T. The US Treasury were unable to track $5 trillion of pandem unable to track $5 trillion of pandem unable to track $5 trillion of pandem pandemic spending. God, pandemic spending. God, pandemic spending. God, >> the IRS, we know you sent 601 and 57 >> the IRS, we know you sent 601 and 57 >> the IRS, we know you sent 601 and 57 cents to your friend. You better report cents to your friend. You better report cents to your friend. You better report it or you're going to jail. it or you're going to jail. it or you're going to jail. >> You are not mad enough. >> You are not mad enough. >> You are not mad enough. >> You are not mad enough. You are not mad >> You are not mad enough. You are not mad >> You are not mad enough. You are not mad enough, [laughter] enough, [laughter] enough, [laughter] bro. Hold on. Hold on. Pull that back up bro. Hold on. Hold on. Pull that back up bro. Hold on. Hold on. Pull that back up because th this is one of those things because th this is one of those things because th this is one of those things that is completely insane. But I want to that is completely insane. But I want to that is completely insane. But I want to remind everybody, and I will imagine remind everybody, and I will imagine remind everybody, and I will imagine some people in the audience right now uh some people in the audience right now uh some people in the audience right now uh were mad at Elon for doing Doge. were mad at Elon for doing Doge. were mad at Elon for doing Doge. Nobody. That should have been the most Nobody. That should have been the most Nobody. That should have been the most bipartisan. Like, you're immediately bipartisan. Like, you're immediately bipartisan. Like, you're immediately rejected from Congress if you don't want rejected from Congress if you don't want rejected from Congress if you don't want complete transparency of where every complete transparency of where every complete transparency of where every dollar is coming from and where every dollar is coming from and where every dollar is coming from and where every dollar is going. Like, that is the dollar is going. Like, that is the dollar is going. Like, that is the craziest [ __ ] ever. In fact, I love craziest [ __ ] ever. In fact, I love craziest [ __ ] ever. In fact, I love this. If you're going to donate to a this. If you're going to donate to a this. If you're going to donate to a politician, that should be the most politician, that should be the most politician, that should be the most public thing ever. If we can't get money public thing ever. If we can't get money public thing ever. If we can't get money out of politics, it's like, "Oh, you out of politics, it's like, "Oh, you out of politics, it's like, "Oh, you want to donate money through uh a pack? want to donate money through uh a pack? want to donate money through uh a pack? Cool. Uh, you're going to be named. Oh, Cool. Uh, you're going to be named. Oh, Cool. Uh, you're going to be named. Oh, you want to donate money in a trust? you want to donate money in a trust? you want to donate money in a trust? Great. That automatically pierces the Great. That automatically pierces the Great. That automatically pierces the corporate veil and we get to see exactly corporate veil and we get to see exactly corporate veil and we get to see exactly who you are. Hey, and are we living in a who you are. Hey, and are we living in a who you are. Hey, and are we living in a time where people will be gone after for time where people will be gone after for time where people will be gone after for their political donations? Yes, their political donations? Yes, their political donations? Yes, kids. We're in a bad way. We're in a bad kids. We're in a bad way. We're in a bad kids. We're in a bad way. We're in a bad way. Like, hiding it didn't work. We ran way. Like, hiding it didn't work. We ran way. Like, hiding it didn't work. We ran the experiment. [laughter] I get it. the experiment. [laughter] I get it. the experiment. [laughter] I get it. This is how I feel about voter ID. I get This is how I feel about voter ID. I get This is how I feel about voter ID. I get it. I get it. There's going to be a it. I get it. There's going to be a it. I get it. There's going to be a very, very small number of people that very, very small number of people that very, very small number of people that get caught up. We ran the math. You guys get caught up. We ran the math. You guys get caught up. We ran the math. You guys will see my episode on Tuesday. My deep will see my episode on Tuesday. My deep will see my episode on Tuesday. My deep dive is about this very fact. Uh but dive is about this very fact. Uh but dive is about this very fact. Uh but while there will be a small number of while there will be a small number of while there will be a small number of people who are going to lose their job people who are going to lose their job people who are going to lose their job because their boss is a [ __ ] and because their boss is a [ __ ] and because their boss is a [ __ ] and doesn't like who they donated to, doesn't like who they donated to, doesn't like who they donated to, understood. understood. understood. That's going to be a vanishingly small That's going to be a vanishingly small That's going to be a vanishingly small number compared to the absolute insanity number compared to the absolute insanity number compared to the absolute insanity of people that are sending money through of people that are sending money through of people that are sending money through NOS's and all this stuff. Uh like we NOS's and all this stuff. Uh like we NOS's and all this stuff. Uh like we should just have AI that publishes like should just have AI that publishes like should just have AI that publishes like a big list. Hey, we tracked all of all a big list. Hey, we tracked all of all a big list. Hey, we tracked all of all of the donations through all these crazy of the donations through all these crazy of the donations through all these crazy ass webs and here are the people that ass webs and here are the people that ass webs and here are the people that are actually donating into who. are actually donating into who. are actually donating into who. That's a step in the right direction. That's a step in the right direction. That's a step in the right direction. I'd rather just get money out of I'd rather just get money out of I'd rather just get money out of politics, but that's probably not politics, but that's probably not politics, but that's probably not happening anytime soon. Um, so yeah, happening anytime soon. Um, so yeah, happening anytime soon. Um, so yeah, let's get at a minimum, let's get some let's get at a minimum, let's get some let's get at a minimum, let's get some transparency. And the fact that people transparency. And the fact that people transparency. And the fact that people didn't want it is insane. didn't want it is insane. didn't want it is insane. >> Wild. Wild. Um, and my last bit, um, I >> Wild. Wild. Um, and my last bit, um, I >> Wild. Wild. Um, and my last bit, um, I know today could be a tough day for know today could be a tough day for know today could be a tough day for those that have lost loved ones, lost those that have lost loved ones, lost those that have lost loved ones, lost people they love, breakups, things like people they love, breakups, things like people they love, breakups, things like that. So, to all my Valentine's people that. So, to all my Valentine's people that. So, to all my Valentine's people who don't have Valentine's, you love who don't have Valentine's, you love who don't have Valentine's, you love yourself. You're the best Valentine you yourself. You're the best Valentine you yourself. You're the best Valentine you could be for you. could be for you. could be for you. >> There we go. It's a nice PSA. Uh, >> There we go. It's a nice PSA. Uh, >> There we go. It's a nice PSA. Uh, remember if you're in a relationship to remember if you're in a relationship to remember if you're in a relationship to think about what the other person wants. think about what the other person wants. think about what the other person wants. Step into their shoes. Look back at the Step into their shoes. Look back at the Step into their shoes. Look back at the experience from their perspective. And experience from their perspective. And experience from their perspective. And there is a big difference between there is a big difference between there is a big difference between telling somebody that you love them and telling somebody that you love them and telling somebody that you love them and making them feel in their bones that you making them feel in their bones that you making them feel in their bones that you love them. But that requires you to love them. But that requires you to love them. But that requires you to understand their love language. Um and understand their love language. Um and understand their love language. Um and so like for instance, the biggest lesson so like for instance, the biggest lesson so like for instance, the biggest lesson my wife taught me is that I need to be my wife taught me is that I need to be my wife taught me is that I need to be cognizant of broadcasting and receiving cognizant of broadcasting and receiving cognizant of broadcasting and receiving love. And so, um, when I go, which I love. And so, um, when I go, which I love. And so, um, when I go, which I pride in myself, when I pride in myself, when I pride in myself, when I don't let the emotions sweep me away and don't let the emotions sweep me away and don't let the emotions sweep me away and I'm just very centered on what I'm I'm just very centered on what I'm I'm just very centered on what I'm trying to do and accomplish, uh, that trying to do and accomplish, uh, that trying to do and accomplish, uh, that that actually is a tax on my wife, who that actually is a tax on my wife, who that actually is a tax on my wife, who wants a far more emotive husband who's wants a far more emotive husband who's wants a far more emotive husband who's in his feels and is just going on the in his feels and is just going on the in his feels and is just going on the roller coaster ride. Uh, and so I've had roller coaster ride. Uh, and so I've had roller coaster ride. Uh, and so I've had to learn to step into that river um, as to learn to step into that river um, as to learn to step into that river um, as a way for her to actually feel what I a way for her to actually feel what I a way for her to actually feel what I feel for her. So, speak in a language feel for her. So, speak in a language feel for her. So, speak in a language that the other person understands. It that the other person understands. It that the other person understands. It will go a very, very long way. will go a very, very long way. will go a very, very long way. >> That was a banger right there. >> That was a banger right there. >> That was a banger right there. >> There it is. All right, everybody. We >> There it is. All right, everybody. We >> There it is. All right, everybody. We love you guys so much. Thank you for love you guys so much. Thank you for love you guys so much. Thank you for being here. I hope you all have a being here. I hope you all have a being here. I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. I hope you have a wonderful weekend. I hope you have a great Valentine's Day. Um, pet a cat, great Valentine's Day. Um, pet a cat, great Valentine's Day. Um, pet a cat, hug a dog. If there's nobody for real, I hug a dog. If there's nobody for real, I hug a dog. If there's nobody for real, I mean this. This is like neurochemistry mean this. This is like neurochemistry mean this. This is like neurochemistry 101. Do something to feel that 101. Do something to feel that 101. Do something to feel that expression of love. Uh, it will go a expression of love. Uh, it will go a expression of love. Uh, it will go a long way. Worst case scenario, uh, get long way. Worst case scenario, uh, get long way. Worst case scenario, uh, get an AI. Oh, we didn't even get to get an AI. Oh, we didn't even get to get an AI. Oh, we didn't even get to get into some of that stuff. It's wild out into some of that stuff. It's wild out into some of that stuff. It's wild out there, boys and girls. there, boys and girls. there, boys and girls. >> AI bar in like New York. [laughter] >> AI bar in like New York. [laughter] >> AI bar in like New York. [laughter] >> Yep. Yep. Look it up. You'll see. All >> Yep. Yep. Look it up. You'll see. All >> Yep. Yep. Look it up. You'll see. All right. Mad love from all of us here. right. Mad love from all of us here. right. Mad love from all of us here. Happy Valentine's Day, everybody. We'll Happy Valentine's Day, everybody. We'll Happy Valentine's Day, everybody. We'll see you on Monday. Peace.