Recovering Alcoholic Breaks Down Tiger Wood's Behavior

Tiger Woods is in big trouble. Tiger Woods is in big trouble. >> Woods was arrested for DUI in Florida >> Woods was arrested for DUI in Florida >> Woods was arrested for DUI in Florida Friday after crashing into the back of a Friday after crashing into the back of a Friday after crashing into the back of a pickup truck and flipping his Land Rover pickup truck and flipping his Land Rover pickup truck and flipping his Land Rover on its side. on its side. on its side. >> This is the second DUI. Both the result >> This is the second DUI. Both the result >> This is the second DUI. Both the result of taking medication and driving at a of taking medication and driving at a of taking medication and driving at a very high rate of speed. very high rate of speed. very high rate of speed. >> This incident comes just days before the >> This incident comes just days before the >> This incident comes just days before the coveted Masters tournament tease off in coveted Masters tournament tease off in coveted Masters tournament tease off in Augusta, Georgia. Certainly, there's Augusta, Georgia. Certainly, there's Augusta, Georgia. Certainly, there's going to have to be accountability. going to have to be accountability. going to have to be accountability. Rich, what are your thoughts on Tiger Rich, what are your thoughts on Tiger Rich, what are your thoughts on Tiger Woods and his recent suspicion of DUI Woods and his recent suspicion of DUI Woods and his recent suspicion of DUI arrest? This is a question that uh many arrest? This is a question that uh many arrest? This is a question that uh many people have reached out to me for people have reached out to me for people have reached out to me for comment. And because the recent solo comment. And because the recent solo comment. And because the recent solo episode that I did was so popular, I episode that I did was so popular, I episode that I did was so popular, I thought I'd take the opportunity to thought I'd take the opportunity to thought I'd take the opportunity to share a few thoughts. not to pass share a few thoughts. not to pass share a few thoughts. not to pass judgment on Tiger Woods or to take his judgment on Tiger Woods or to take his judgment on Tiger Woods or to take his inventory, but to elucidate a greater inventory, but to elucidate a greater inventory, but to elucidate a greater understanding of addiction. There's a understanding of addiction. There's a understanding of addiction. There's a couple aspects of this incident that couple aspects of this incident that couple aspects of this incident that stand out to me. The first of which was stand out to me. The first of which was stand out to me. The first of which was that it took place at, I believe, 2 p.m. that it took place at, I believe, 2 p.m. that it took place at, I believe, 2 p.m. in the afternoon. So, in broad daylight, in the afternoon. So, in broad daylight, in the afternoon. So, in broad daylight, he volunteered for a breathalyzer and he volunteered for a breathalyzer and he volunteered for a breathalyzer and passed that test, but refused a urine passed that test, but refused a urine passed that test, but refused a urine test and appeared by all accounts to be test and appeared by all accounts to be test and appeared by all accounts to be impaired. You can watch the video impaired. You can watch the video impaired. You can watch the video online. It's pretty clear that he was online. It's pretty clear that he was online. It's pretty clear that he was impaired at the moment of his arrest. impaired at the moment of his arrest. impaired at the moment of his arrest. And of course, this is not the first And of course, this is not the first And of course, this is not the first time. In 2009, he collided with a fire time. In 2009, he collided with a fire time. In 2009, he collided with a fire hydrant. That was his first fall from hydrant. That was his first fall from hydrant. That was his first fall from grace. In 2017, he was arrested under grace. In 2017, he was arrested under grace. In 2017, he was arrested under the suspicion of DUI. I believe he was the suspicion of DUI. I believe he was the suspicion of DUI. I believe he was found asleep behind the wheel of his found asleep behind the wheel of his found asleep behind the wheel of his parked car. And what's interesting about parked car. And what's interesting about parked car. And what's interesting about that incident is that he claimed that he that incident is that he claimed that he that incident is that he claimed that he was taking medication to manage his pain was taking medication to manage his pain was taking medication to manage his pain from spinal fusion surgery, an A-ift from spinal fusion surgery, an A-ift from spinal fusion surgery, an A-ift procedure of the L5 and S1. AIF stands procedure of the L5 and S1. AIF stands procedure of the L5 and S1. AIF stands for anterior lumbar interbody fusion. for anterior lumbar interbody fusion. for anterior lumbar interbody fusion. This is something I have a little bit of This is something I have a little bit of This is something I have a little bit of experience with because I too underwent experience with because I too underwent experience with because I too underwent an AIF in addition to a PIFF, a an AIF in addition to a PIFF, a an AIF in addition to a PIFF, a posterior lumbar interbody fusion. Uh so posterior lumbar interbody fusion. Uh so posterior lumbar interbody fusion. Uh so I understand that pain and perhaps even I understand that pain and perhaps even I understand that pain and perhaps even the desire to medicate that pain. Uh in the desire to medicate that pain. Uh in the desire to medicate that pain. Uh in any event then in 2021 any event then in 2021 any event then in 2021 uh Tiger Woods rolled his car in Los uh Tiger Woods rolled his car in Los uh Tiger Woods rolled his car in Los Angeles shattering his leg and uh Angeles shattering his leg and uh Angeles shattering his leg and uh suffering two leg fracture. So this is suffering two leg fracture. So this is suffering two leg fracture. So this is his fourth uh incident behind the wheel his fourth uh incident behind the wheel his fourth uh incident behind the wheel and obviously and obviously and obviously worse because of his incredibly high worse because of his incredibly high worse because of his incredibly high profile creating quite the media profile creating quite the media profile creating quite the media spectacle. And this is all made worse spectacle. And this is all made worse spectacle. And this is all made worse still, of course, because this is still, of course, because this is still, of course, because this is somebody who so many people worship, somebody who so many people worship, somebody who so many people worship, which makes it all the more confusing which makes it all the more confusing which makes it all the more confusing and difficult for the average person to and difficult for the average person to and difficult for the average person to get their head around. So the question get their head around. So the question get their head around. So the question that most people, most normal people are that most people, most normal people are that most people, most normal people are asking right now is why would Tiger asking right now is why would Tiger asking right now is why would Tiger Woods do this? Why would he tarnish his Woods do this? Why would he tarnish his Woods do this? Why would he tarnish his legacy? Why would he behave so legacy? Why would he behave so legacy? Why would he behave so irrationally? somebody who has so many irrationally? somebody who has so many irrationally? somebody who has so many resources at his disposal making this resources at his disposal making this resources at his disposal making this unforced error. Somebody with so much to unforced error. Somebody with so much to unforced error. Somebody with so much to lose who just perpetrated this act of lose who just perpetrated this act of lose who just perpetrated this act of self-sabotage in such an irrational way. self-sabotage in such an irrational way. self-sabotage in such an irrational way. How do we answer this question? Well, How do we answer this question? Well, How do we answer this question? Well, the answer really isn't binary. It isn't the answer really isn't binary. It isn't the answer really isn't binary. It isn't because of one thing or another. In my because of one thing or another. In my because of one thing or another. In my opinion, the first thing to understand opinion, the first thing to understand opinion, the first thing to understand about this is that when you're an about this is that when you're an about this is that when you're an addict, when you are addicted to a addict, when you are addicted to a addict, when you are addicted to a substance, as soon as that substance substance, as soon as that substance substance, as soon as that substance hits your body, rationality just goes hits your body, rationality just goes hits your body, rationality just goes completely out the window. Why wouldn't completely out the window. Why wouldn't completely out the window. Why wouldn't somebody with so much at his disposal, somebody with so much at his disposal, somebody with so much at his disposal, so many resources, not just have a so many resources, not just have a so many resources, not just have a driver or call an Uber? But this is the driver or call an Uber? But this is the driver or call an Uber? But this is the wrong question because it presupposes wrong question because it presupposes wrong question because it presupposes rationality. And that's why it doesn't rationality. And that's why it doesn't rationality. And that's why it doesn't quite make sense to a normal person. But quite make sense to a normal person. But quite make sense to a normal person. But the point I'm trying to make is that the point I'm trying to make is that the point I'm trying to make is that there isn't anything normal about the there isn't anything normal about the there isn't anything normal about the brain of an addict under the influence. brain of an addict under the influence. brain of an addict under the influence. Addiction is so cunning, so baffling, so Addiction is so cunning, so baffling, so Addiction is so cunning, so baffling, so powerful, it just obliterates powerful, it just obliterates powerful, it just obliterates rationality and makes logic irrelevant. rationality and makes logic irrelevant. rationality and makes logic irrelevant. Tiger was impaired. And this is what Tiger was impaired. And this is what Tiger was impaired. And this is what happens to the addicted brain when it is happens to the addicted brain when it is happens to the addicted brain when it is quote unquote under the influence. And quote unquote under the influence. And quote unquote under the influence. And in the same way that I can sympathize in the same way that I can sympathize in the same way that I can sympathize with Tiger's pain in the aftermath of a with Tiger's pain in the aftermath of a with Tiger's pain in the aftermath of a spinal fusion surgery, the experience of spinal fusion surgery, the experience of spinal fusion surgery, the experience of getting behind the wheel impaired is getting behind the wheel impaired is getting behind the wheel impaired is also something that I can relate to and also something that I can relate to and also something that I can relate to and have experience with. I got two DUIs in have experience with. I got two DUIs in have experience with. I got two DUIs in 2 months back in I think it was 1996. uh blowing extraordinarily high blood uh blowing extraordinarily high blood alcohol levels, getting arrested when I alcohol levels, getting arrested when I alcohol levels, getting arrested when I could have easily taken a cab. I was not could have easily taken a cab. I was not could have easily taken a cab. I was not acting rationally, logic didn't enter acting rationally, logic didn't enter acting rationally, logic didn't enter the picture. And so, uh, as confusing the picture. And so, uh, as confusing the picture. And so, uh, as confusing and as shameinducing and as embarrassing and as shameinducing and as embarrassing and as shameinducing and as embarrassing and and and disorienting as it is to reflect on disorienting as it is to reflect on disorienting as it is to reflect on those experiences that that that that I those experiences that that that that I those experiences that that that that I had personally, it helps me uh had personally, it helps me uh had personally, it helps me uh understand his behavior and just creates understand his behavior and just creates understand his behavior and just creates a little bit of space for empathy and a little bit of space for empathy and a little bit of space for empathy and and compassion. Sitting here in 2026, and compassion. Sitting here in 2026, and compassion. Sitting here in 2026, there is no circumstance under which I there is no circumstance under which I there is no circumstance under which I would make those decisions. It's insane. would make those decisions. It's insane. would make those decisions. It's insane. But addiction is insanity. And I can But addiction is insanity. And I can But addiction is insanity. And I can tell you when I was under the influence tell you when I was under the influence tell you when I was under the influence in my full addict mode, I would just in my full addict mode, I would just in my full addict mode, I would just make make make insane decision after insane decision insane decision after insane decision insane decision after insane decision that put myself at harm, that put other that put myself at harm, that put other that put myself at harm, that put other people at risk without a single thought people at risk without a single thought people at risk without a single thought of the consequences. of the consequences. of the consequences. This conviction that everything will be This conviction that everything will be This conviction that everything will be fine uh is is overpowering and fine uh is is overpowering and fine uh is is overpowering and overwhelming. And there is a sense of overwhelming. And there is a sense of overwhelming. And there is a sense of invincibility and also entitlement and invincibility and also entitlement and invincibility and also entitlement and empowerment that you can do anything and empowerment that you can do anything and empowerment that you can do anything and everything will be fine. Uh that everything will be fine. Uh that everything will be fine. Uh that completely blinds you to reality. It is completely blinds you to reality. It is completely blinds you to reality. It is a state of utter derangement in which a state of utter derangement in which a state of utter derangement in which your preffrontal cortex is just not your preffrontal cortex is just not your preffrontal cortex is just not operating as it should and you're just operating as it should and you're just operating as it should and you're just stripped of the capacity to evaluate the stripped of the capacity to evaluate the stripped of the capacity to evaluate the consequences of your actions. At the consequences of your actions. At the consequences of your actions. At the same time, the second point I want to same time, the second point I want to same time, the second point I want to make is that perhaps there very well may make is that perhaps there very well may make is that perhaps there very well may have been a degree of semi or have been a degree of semi or have been a degree of semi or unconscious self-sabotage at play in unconscious self-sabotage at play in unconscious self-sabotage at play in this situation. In reflecting upon what this situation. In reflecting upon what this situation. In reflecting upon what happened to Tiger, I found myself happened to Tiger, I found myself happened to Tiger, I found myself thinking about my podcast with Todd thinking about my podcast with Todd thinking about my podcast with Todd Morenovich, the USC and Oakland Raiders Morenovich, the USC and Oakland Raiders Morenovich, the USC and Oakland Raiders quarterback who I hosted on the podcast quarterback who I hosted on the podcast quarterback who I hosted on the podcast who has a storied history with who has a storied history with who has a storied history with addiction, but also was a master of his addiction, but also was a master of his addiction, but also was a master of his craft. This extraordinary quarterback on craft. This extraordinary quarterback on craft. This extraordinary quarterback on the rise who in a parallel universe the rise who in a parallel universe the rise who in a parallel universe could have been a Tiger Woods, the best could have been a Tiger Woods, the best could have been a Tiger Woods, the best that ever was. This was a guy who wanted that ever was. This was a guy who wanted that ever was. This was a guy who wanted out of football. He was succeeding at out of football. He was succeeding at out of football. He was succeeding at the highest level. He was shouldering the highest level. He was shouldering the highest level. He was shouldering extraordinary pressure and expectations. extraordinary pressure and expectations. extraordinary pressure and expectations. And yet And yet And yet he didn't want any of it. He wanted out, he didn't want any of it. He wanted out, he didn't want any of it. He wanted out, but he couldn't get out. the only way but he couldn't get out. the only way but he couldn't get out. the only way that he could get out was to that he could get out was to that he could get out was to self-sabotage his life, to basically self-sabotage his life, to basically self-sabotage his life, to basically implode everything around him so that implode everything around him so that implode everything around him so that other people had to make that choice for other people had to make that choice for other people had to make that choice for him. If you create enough chaos, then him. If you create enough chaos, then him. If you create enough chaos, then the people in your orbit are going to the people in your orbit are going to the people in your orbit are going to make those decisions for you. And I can make those decisions for you. And I can make those decisions for you. And I can see some aspects of this in the Tiger see some aspects of this in the Tiger see some aspects of this in the Tiger situation perhaps. And again, I don't situation perhaps. And again, I don't situation perhaps. And again, I don't know Tiger Woods. I've never met him. I know Tiger Woods. I've never met him. I know Tiger Woods. I've never met him. I don't know anyone in his inner circle. don't know anyone in his inner circle. don't know anyone in his inner circle. But it's worth considering the But it's worth considering the But it's worth considering the possibility that maybe on some level, possibility that maybe on some level, possibility that maybe on some level, again, unconsciously or semiconsciously, again, unconsciously or semiconsciously, again, unconsciously or semiconsciously, that he wants out of the golf world, but that he wants out of the golf world, but that he wants out of the golf world, but he can't find it in himself to quit on he can't find it in himself to quit on he can't find it in himself to quit on his own or walk away. He can't see his own or walk away. He can't see his own or walk away. He can't see another path for himself, and he doesn't another path for himself, and he doesn't another path for himself, and he doesn't know any other life. But by know any other life. But by know any other life. But by self-sabotaging, by literally dropping a self-sabotaging, by literally dropping a self-sabotaging, by literally dropping a bomb on his life, he's basically bomb on his life, he's basically bomb on his life, he's basically beckoning, compelling other people to beckoning, compelling other people to beckoning, compelling other people to get him out of this situation that he get him out of this situation that he get him out of this situation that he can't get out of on his own. And this is can't get out of on his own. And this is can't get out of on his own. And this is also something I relate to. I was living also something I relate to. I was living also something I relate to. I was living a life that uh I didn't feel connected a life that uh I didn't feel connected a life that uh I didn't feel connected to, that I wanted out of. I didn't know to, that I wanted out of. I didn't know to, that I wanted out of. I didn't know how to get out of it. Uh I didn't have how to get out of it. Uh I didn't have how to get out of it. Uh I didn't have the courage to quit or to do something the courage to quit or to do something the courage to quit or to do something else. And I was continuously else. And I was continuously else. And I was continuously self-sabotaging my life, getting into self-sabotaging my life, getting into self-sabotaging my life, getting into trouble with the law, showing up late, trouble with the law, showing up late, trouble with the law, showing up late, being irresponsible, having a very loose being irresponsible, having a very loose being irresponsible, having a very loose relationship with the truth, alienating relationship with the truth, alienating relationship with the truth, alienating all the people around me. And I know all the people around me. And I know all the people around me. And I know that desperate, lonely feeling where you that desperate, lonely feeling where you that desperate, lonely feeling where you feel trapped and sometimes the only feel trapped and sometimes the only feel trapped and sometimes the only thing you can do is create destruction thing you can do is create destruction thing you can do is create destruction in your wake. And this is the proclivity in your wake. And this is the proclivity in your wake. And this is the proclivity of the addict. Either way, this is of the addict. Either way, this is of the addict. Either way, this is clearly a man who is in pain. Perhaps clearly a man who is in pain. Perhaps clearly a man who is in pain. Perhaps some of that pain is physical. There some of that pain is physical. There some of that pain is physical. There certainly appears to be some psychic certainly appears to be some psychic certainly appears to be some psychic pain happening here. And pharmaceuticals pain happening here. And pharmaceuticals pain happening here. And pharmaceuticals are a pretty effective and reliable way are a pretty effective and reliable way are a pretty effective and reliable way to numb it, which helps explain some of to numb it, which helps explain some of to numb it, which helps explain some of the self-destructive behavior. Eating well sounds good, sounds simple, Eating well sounds good, sounds simple, until you're staring into the fridge until you're staring into the fridge until you're staring into the fridge wondering what on earth you're going to wondering what on earth you're going to wondering what on earth you're going to cook. That is exactly why we created the cook. That is exactly why we created the cook. That is exactly why we created the Plantp Power meal planner. It's a Plantp Power meal planner. It's a Plantp Power meal planner. 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I think it's instructive to reflect a little bit upon instructive to reflect a little bit upon instructive to reflect a little bit upon his past history and his childhood uh in his past history and his childhood uh in his past history and his childhood uh in thinking about Todd Marinovich and even thinking about Todd Marinovich and even thinking about Todd Marinovich and even to some extent Shia Labou and and the to some extent Shia Labou and and the to some extent Shia Labou and and the thoughts that I shared on his situation. thoughts that I shared on his situation. thoughts that I shared on his situation. uh I think it helps to understand where uh I think it helps to understand where uh I think it helps to understand where these people came from in order to these people came from in order to these people came from in order to understand their behavior in the current understand their behavior in the current understand their behavior in the current moment. When you look at Shia Labou, moment. When you look at Shia Labou, moment. When you look at Shia Labou, when you look at Todd Morenovich, when when you look at Todd Morenovich, when when you look at Todd Morenovich, when you look at Tiger Woods and to some you look at Tiger Woods and to some you look at Tiger Woods and to some degree even when I reflect upon my own degree even when I reflect upon my own degree even when I reflect upon my own past and my own childhood, there is an past and my own childhood, there is an past and my own childhood, there is an overlap in the ven diagram that all overlap in the ven diagram that all overlap in the ven diagram that all tracks back to early childhood tracks back to early childhood tracks back to early childhood experiences. experiences. experiences. Shia, Todd, Tiger, all of these people Shia, Todd, Tiger, all of these people Shia, Todd, Tiger, all of these people had doineering father figures in their had doineering father figures in their had doineering father figures in their lives. People that set very high lives. People that set very high lives. People that set very high expectations and were very demanding uh expectations and were very demanding uh expectations and were very demanding uh on these young people and sort of lodged on these young people and sort of lodged on these young people and sort of lodged in their brains this notion of in their brains this notion of in their brains this notion of commitment to mastery and excellence. commitment to mastery and excellence. commitment to mastery and excellence. acting with Shia, quarterbacking with acting with Shia, quarterbacking with acting with Shia, quarterbacking with Todd, and obviously golf with Tiger. And Todd, and obviously golf with Tiger. And Todd, and obviously golf with Tiger. And in my own life, I grew up in a in my own life, I grew up in a in my own life, I grew up in a expectation laden household where expectation laden household where expectation laden household where achievement and accomplishment was of achievement and accomplishment was of achievement and accomplishment was of the utmost priority in school and as an the utmost priority in school and as an the utmost priority in school and as an athlete. And so I also am able to athlete. And so I also am able to athlete. And so I also am able to emotionally connect with the experience emotionally connect with the experience emotionally connect with the experience of what it's like to on a on a more of what it's like to on a on a more of what it's like to on a on a more minimal level what it's like to have to minimal level what it's like to have to minimal level what it's like to have to shoulder those expectations and how shoulder those expectations and how shoulder those expectations and how those get translated later in adulthood. those get translated later in adulthood. those get translated later in adulthood. So you have these young people who are So you have these young people who are So you have these young people who are on a track towards mastery and they on a track towards mastery and they on a track towards mastery and they develop these superpowers. develop these superpowers. develop these superpowers. Todd's ability to be a quarterback, Todd's ability to be a quarterback, Todd's ability to be a quarterback, Shia's ability to inhabit a character, Shia's ability to inhabit a character, Shia's ability to inhabit a character, Tiger's ability to acquit himself on the Tiger's ability to acquit himself on the Tiger's ability to acquit himself on the golf course in a way that nobody in golf course in a way that nobody in golf course in a way that nobody in history ever has. These are superpowers, history ever has. These are superpowers, history ever has. These are superpowers, but they're all being driven by but they're all being driven by but they're all being driven by childhood wounds, traumatic experiences childhood wounds, traumatic experiences childhood wounds, traumatic experiences that are unhealed, and that if they that are unhealed, and that if they that are unhealed, and that if they remain unhealed, end up metastasizing remain unhealed, end up metastasizing remain unhealed, end up metastasizing into problems, superpowers that become into problems, superpowers that become into problems, superpowers that become Achilles heels and actually kryptonite. Achilles heels and actually kryptonite. Achilles heels and actually kryptonite. They manifest in self-destructive They manifest in self-destructive They manifest in self-destructive behavior, in substance abuse, and again behavior, in substance abuse, and again behavior, in substance abuse, and again in acts of self-sabotage. And if you go in acts of self-sabotage. And if you go in acts of self-sabotage. And if you go back to my podcast episode with Todd back to my podcast episode with Todd back to my podcast episode with Todd Morenovich and watch it closely, I think Morenovich and watch it closely, I think Morenovich and watch it closely, I think you will see as as I did that that is a you will see as as I did that that is a you will see as as I did that that is a person who is still in a tremendous person who is still in a tremendous person who is still in a tremendous amount of pain. somebody who is amount of pain. somebody who is amount of pain. somebody who is struggling in real time trying to reckon struggling in real time trying to reckon struggling in real time trying to reckon with their past uh in a way that causes with their past uh in a way that causes with their past uh in a way that causes a great deal of psychic discomfort. a great deal of psychic discomfort. a great deal of psychic discomfort. Childhood wounds become adulthood Childhood wounds become adulthood Childhood wounds become adulthood problems. Problems that create chaos in problems. Problems that create chaos in problems. Problems that create chaos in personal lives and a lot of wreckage in personal lives and a lot of wreckage in personal lives and a lot of wreckage in their wake. other people, loved ones who their wake. other people, loved ones who their wake. other people, loved ones who are caught up in it, who end up being are caught up in it, who end up being are caught up in it, who end up being harmed as a consequence of what are harmed as a consequence of what are harmed as a consequence of what are essentially emotional disturbances that essentially emotional disturbances that essentially emotional disturbances that have not been processed properly, have not been processed properly, have not been processed properly, haven't been healed, and continue to haven't been healed, and continue to haven't been healed, and continue to motivate behaviors that perhaps at one motivate behaviors that perhaps at one motivate behaviors that perhaps at one time were self-defenses or strategies time were self-defenses or strategies time were self-defenses or strategies for success, but later in life become for success, but later in life become for success, but later in life become problematic. And the instructive piece problematic. And the instructive piece problematic. And the instructive piece that I want to underscore here is that that I want to underscore here is that that I want to underscore here is that by taking a lens and and placing it on by taking a lens and and placing it on by taking a lens and and placing it on these well-known individuals is an these well-known individuals is an these well-known individuals is an exercise that we should all be engaged exercise that we should all be engaged exercise that we should all be engaged in with respect to our own lives, our in with respect to our own lives, our in with respect to our own lives, our own past, our own childhood. Because as own past, our own childhood. Because as own past, our own childhood. Because as as idyllic as your childhood may have as idyllic as your childhood may have as idyllic as your childhood may have been, very few people uh mature into been, very few people uh mature into been, very few people uh mature into adulthood without uh having to contend adulthood without uh having to contend adulthood without uh having to contend with certain emotional needs that went with certain emotional needs that went with certain emotional needs that went unmet in their earlier years. And so unmet in their earlier years. And so unmet in their earlier years. And so reflecting upon your past and trying to reflecting upon your past and trying to reflecting upon your past and trying to identify those needs and how identify those needs and how identify those needs and how those needs being unmet at a very those needs being unmet at a very those needs being unmet at a very specific time in youth turn into errant specific time in youth turn into errant specific time in youth turn into errant behavior patterns in adulthood that are behavior patterns in adulthood that are behavior patterns in adulthood that are at cross purposes with your goals and at cross purposes with your goals and at cross purposes with your goals and your ambitions that become obscur your ambitions that become obscur your ambitions that become obscur obstructive to growing and evolving into obstructive to growing and evolving into obstructive to growing and evolving into a more actualized better version of a more actualized better version of a more actualized better version of yourself. I think it's also instructive yourself. I think it's also instructive yourself. I think it's also instructive for the parents. We all want our kids to for the parents. We all want our kids to for the parents. We all want our kids to succeed and we also all understand the succeed and we also all understand the succeed and we also all understand the importance of discipline and of creating importance of discipline and of creating importance of discipline and of creating rational expectations and accountability rational expectations and accountability rational expectations and accountability so that our kids can push themselves. Uh so that our kids can push themselves. Uh so that our kids can push themselves. Uh and I think the piece that uh I want to and I think the piece that uh I want to and I think the piece that uh I want to underscore there is that that's all underscore there is that that's all underscore there is that that's all fine. I think it's great to have fine. I think it's great to have fine. I think it's great to have ambitions and to hold high hopes for ambitions and to hold high hopes for ambitions and to hold high hopes for your children and to hold them your children and to hold them your children and to hold them accountable for their behavior and to accountable for their behavior and to accountable for their behavior and to try to mold them into responsibly try to mold them into responsibly try to mold them into responsibly ambitious adults. But I think it's ambitious adults. But I think it's ambitious adults. But I think it's important to bear in mind that the important to bear in mind that the important to bear in mind that the expectation piece is important if it is expectation piece is important if it is expectation piece is important if it is laden with the idea that things like laden with the idea that things like laden with the idea that things like love and approval are transactional. In love and approval are transactional. In love and approval are transactional. In other words, in order to get my approval other words, in order to get my approval other words, in order to get my approval or my love, you must do this or achieve or my love, you must do this or achieve or my love, you must do this or achieve that or succeed in whatever capacity. that or succeed in whatever capacity. that or succeed in whatever capacity. That is the piece that becomes That is the piece that becomes That is the piece that becomes problematic. So you can hold an ambition problematic. So you can hold an ambition problematic. So you can hold an ambition for your child, but you have to hold it for your child, but you have to hold it for your child, but you have to hold it loosely. And the most important piece is loosely. And the most important piece is loosely. And the most important piece is that no matter what they know they are that no matter what they know they are that no matter what they know they are loved unconditionally. loved unconditionally. loved unconditionally. And I suspect not knowing Tiger, not And I suspect not knowing Tiger, not And I suspect not knowing Tiger, not knowing Shia, only knowing Todd Marino a knowing Shia, only knowing Todd Marino a knowing Shia, only knowing Todd Marino a little bit that little bit that little bit that there was a transactional nature to there was a transactional nature to there was a transactional nature to approval and love with their parental approval and love with their parental approval and love with their parental figures. And so, just to be clear about figures. And so, just to be clear about figures. And so, just to be clear about disclaimers here, I don't know Shia. disclaimers here, I don't know Shia. disclaimers here, I don't know Shia. I've never met Tiger Woods. I only know I've never met Tiger Woods. I only know I've never met Tiger Woods. I only know Todd Marinovich very peripherally. And Todd Marinovich very peripherally. And Todd Marinovich very peripherally. And I'm not a mental health professional. I'm not a mental health professional. I'm not a mental health professional. Uh, I am somebody with experience in Uh, I am somebody with experience in Uh, I am somebody with experience in addiction and sobriety and as a host of addiction and sobriety and as a host of addiction and sobriety and as a host of this podcast, I've had many health this podcast, I've had many health this podcast, I've had many health professionals on my show, but uh, I want professionals on my show, but uh, I want professionals on my show, but uh, I want I want to make sure that you understand I want to make sure that you understand I want to make sure that you understand that I'm not holding myself out as the that I'm not holding myself out as the that I'm not holding myself out as the expert. I'm essentially armchair expert. I'm essentially armchair expert. I'm essentially armchair quarterbacking what I'm seeing in the quarterbacking what I'm seeing in the quarterbacking what I'm seeing in the public eye and trying to help make sense public eye and trying to help make sense public eye and trying to help make sense of it in an instructive way uh that of it in an instructive way uh that of it in an instructive way uh that helps us understand the nature of helps us understand the nature of helps us understand the nature of addiction recovery, what drives it and addiction recovery, what drives it and addiction recovery, what drives it and how to better interface with the people how to better interface with the people how to better interface with the people in our lives that are struggling with in our lives that are struggling with in our lives that are struggling with it. On that note, in the spirit of being it. On that note, in the spirit of being it. On that note, in the spirit of being an armchair quarterback here, I think an armchair quarterback here, I think an armchair quarterback here, I think it's reasonable to suspect that someone it's reasonable to suspect that someone it's reasonable to suspect that someone like Todd Marinovich, like Todd Marinovich, like Todd Marinovich, maybe somebody like Tiger, maybe maybe somebody like Tiger, maybe maybe somebody like Tiger, maybe somebody like Shia was raised to believe somebody like Shia was raised to believe somebody like Shia was raised to believe that their entire value was calibrated that their entire value was calibrated that their entire value was calibrated based upon how well they could play a based upon how well they could play a based upon how well they could play a game or inhabit a character. And with game or inhabit a character. And with game or inhabit a character. And with that again is this notion of love being that again is this notion of love being that again is this notion of love being transactional, that it must be earned transactional, that it must be earned transactional, that it must be earned through winning golf tournaments or through winning golf tournaments or through winning golf tournaments or being nominated for an Oscar or being being nominated for an Oscar or being being nominated for an Oscar or being able to throw a football instead of love able to throw a football instead of love able to throw a football instead of love being something that we are all raised being something that we are all raised being something that we are all raised to believe we are naturally entitled to. to believe we are naturally entitled to. to believe we are naturally entitled to. which allows us to feel safe and secure which allows us to feel safe and secure which allows us to feel safe and secure and develop a healthy notion of and develop a healthy notion of and develop a healthy notion of self-esteem. And when I think about self-esteem. And when I think about self-esteem. And when I think about Tiger, I think about this guy who has Tiger, I think about this guy who has Tiger, I think about this guy who has literally won everything. There is no literally won everything. There is no literally won everything. There is no golf tournament that he hasn't won. golf tournament that he hasn't won. golf tournament that he hasn't won. There is no mountain in sport that he There is no mountain in sport that he There is no mountain in sport that he hasn't summited. And if he is under the hasn't summited. And if he is under the hasn't summited. And if he is under the belief, whether conscious or otherwise, belief, whether conscious or otherwise, belief, whether conscious or otherwise, that in order to receive love, he must that in order to receive love, he must that in order to receive love, he must be out there tackling another summit. be out there tackling another summit. be out there tackling another summit. What is a guy like that supposed to do What is a guy like that supposed to do What is a guy like that supposed to do when there are no summits left? when there are no summits left? when there are no summits left? In other words, what is it that you're In other words, what is it that you're In other words, what is it that you're supposed to do when you've already won supposed to do when you've already won supposed to do when you've already won everything and you still don't feel everything and you still don't feel everything and you still don't feel entitled to love, still don't feel entitled to love, still don't feel entitled to love, still don't feel worthy of love. What happens is that you worthy of love. What happens is that you worthy of love. What happens is that you face an existential crisis and you're face an existential crisis and you're face an existential crisis and you're going to do one of two things. Either going to do one of two things. Either going to do one of two things. Either you're going to find a way to find you're going to find a way to find you're going to find a way to find meaning and purpose and faith in meaning and purpose and faith in meaning and purpose and faith in something else, something larger than something else, something larger than something else, something larger than yourself. Or you're going to begin to yourself. Or you're going to begin to yourself. Or you're going to begin to act out. You're going to find ways to act out. You're going to find ways to act out. You're going to find ways to numb the pain and to ultimately prove numb the pain and to ultimately prove numb the pain and to ultimately prove your your your fundamental sense of unworthiness. And fundamental sense of unworthiness. And fundamental sense of unworthiness. And when I look at Tiger Woods, I see when I look at Tiger Woods, I see when I look at Tiger Woods, I see somebody who is experimenting with the somebody who is experimenting with the somebody who is experimenting with the latter. And I think this helps explain latter. And I think this helps explain latter. And I think this helps explain why he is interested at age 50 in making why he is interested at age 50 in making why he is interested at age 50 in making a comeback in golf. I mean, why would a comeback in golf. I mean, why would a comeback in golf. I mean, why would this guy who's already done it all want this guy who's already done it all want this guy who's already done it all want to go back? Why is he even interested in to go back? Why is he even interested in to go back? Why is he even interested in making a comeback? Why punish yourself making a comeback? Why punish yourself making a comeback? Why punish yourself in this way? Why set yourself up for a in this way? Why set yourself up for a in this way? Why set yourself up for a fall? Why not find something else in fall? Why not find something else in fall? Why not find something else in this stage of your life? Something more this stage of your life? Something more this stage of your life? Something more meaningful, something where you can meaningful, something where you can meaningful, something where you can perhaps make a make an impact that will perhaps make a make an impact that will perhaps make a make an impact that will have meaning outside of your own success have meaning outside of your own success have meaning outside of your own success as an athlete. I don't know the answer as an athlete. I don't know the answer as an athlete. I don't know the answer to that, but I think it's worth to that, but I think it's worth to that, but I think it's worth wondering whether it might be because wondering whether it might be because wondering whether it might be because golf is just the only thing that this golf is just the only thing that this golf is just the only thing that this person has ever known that sufficiently person has ever known that sufficiently person has ever known that sufficiently fills the empty void in his soul. the fills the empty void in his soul. the fills the empty void in his soul. the thing that Gabbor Mate calls sating the thing that Gabbor Mate calls sating the thing that Gabbor Mate calls sating the hungry ghost. And when I reflect on hungry ghost. And when I reflect on hungry ghost. And when I reflect on that, I feel a deep sense of sadness for that, I feel a deep sense of sadness for that, I feel a deep sense of sadness for this person. And that sadness is is this person. And that sadness is is this person. And that sadness is is really exacerbated by the white hot really exacerbated by the white hot really exacerbated by the white hot spotlight of the media, which is spotlight of the media, which is spotlight of the media, which is painting a very salacious uh portrait of painting a very salacious uh portrait of painting a very salacious uh portrait of of this man and his fall from grace. of this man and his fall from grace. of this man and his fall from grace. that certainly isn't helping and is that certainly isn't helping and is that certainly isn't helping and is something I think very few of us could something I think very few of us could something I think very few of us could even fathom having to navigate. And I even fathom having to navigate. And I even fathom having to navigate. And I don't think it's helpful that most of don't think it's helpful that most of don't think it's helpful that most of these media reports also ultimately these media reports also ultimately these media reports also ultimately always culminate with this question always culminate with this question always culminate with this question around his comeback because in my around his comeback because in my around his comeback because in my opinion the comeback is the least opinion the comeback is the least opinion the comeback is the least important thing right here. This is a important thing right here. This is a important thing right here. This is a guy whose life is hanging in the guy whose life is hanging in the guy whose life is hanging in the balance. The last thing that Tiger or balance. The last thing that Tiger or balance. The last thing that Tiger or anybody else for that matter should be anybody else for that matter should be anybody else for that matter should be thinking about is whether or not he's thinking about is whether or not he's thinking about is whether or not he's going to find his way back onto a golf going to find his way back onto a golf going to find his way back onto a golf course. So what now? Well, obviously course. So what now? Well, obviously course. So what now? Well, obviously Tiger Woods is somebody who needs help Tiger Woods is somebody who needs help Tiger Woods is somebody who needs help right now. Uh perhaps even an right now. Uh perhaps even an right now. Uh perhaps even an intervention. But part of the problem, intervention. But part of the problem, intervention. But part of the problem, as far as I understand it, is that his as far as I understand it, is that his as far as I understand it, is that his inner circle is comprised of primarily inner circle is comprised of primarily inner circle is comprised of primarily sick offense, people who are on his sick offense, people who are on his sick offense, people who are on his payroll. And these are people who are payroll. And these are people who are payroll. And these are people who are not going to be incentivized to uh not going to be incentivized to uh not going to be incentivized to uh engage in some truthtelling or to engage in some truthtelling or to engage in some truthtelling or to participate uh in the difficulty of participate uh in the difficulty of participate uh in the difficulty of intervening on his behavior. So that's intervening on his behavior. So that's intervening on his behavior. So that's problem number one. Perhaps his kids can problem number one. Perhaps his kids can problem number one. Perhaps his kids can get through to him. His kids being older get through to him. His kids being older get through to him. His kids being older now. Uh that certainly tends to have an now. Uh that certainly tends to have an now. Uh that certainly tends to have an impact on the suffering addict. uh impact on the suffering addict. uh impact on the suffering addict. uh nothing like your your kid's concern to nothing like your your kid's concern to nothing like your your kid's concern to kind of penetrate the veil of denial kind of penetrate the veil of denial kind of penetrate the veil of denial that uh prevents addicts from reaching that uh prevents addicts from reaching that uh prevents addicts from reaching for the solution. And perhaps somebody for the solution. And perhaps somebody for the solution. And perhaps somebody of his stature uh with the uh requisite of his stature uh with the uh requisite of his stature uh with the uh requisite degree of experience would be able to degree of experience would be able to degree of experience would be able to penetrate that. Somebody who uh knows penetrate that. Somebody who uh knows penetrate that. Somebody who uh knows what it's like uh to live the life of what it's like uh to live the life of what it's like uh to live the life of Tiger Woods, who has some experience Tiger Woods, who has some experience Tiger Woods, who has some experience with mental health difficulties. Michael with mental health difficulties. Michael with mental health difficulties. Michael Phelps comes to mind. I mean, there Phelps comes to mind. I mean, there Phelps comes to mind. I mean, there aren't very many people on the planet aren't very many people on the planet aren't very many people on the planet who know what it's like to uh, you know, who know what it's like to uh, you know, who know what it's like to uh, you know, be somebody of that stature and be somebody of that stature and be somebody of that stature and accomplishment. And I suspect it's a accomplishment. And I suspect it's a accomplishment. And I suspect it's a very lonely existence that's unrelatable very lonely existence that's unrelatable very lonely existence that's unrelatable for most people. And I think somebody uh for most people. And I think somebody uh for most people. And I think somebody uh you know like a Michael Phelps or if not you know like a Michael Phelps or if not you know like a Michael Phelps or if not Michael Phelps himself could potentially Michael Phelps himself could potentially Michael Phelps himself could potentially be somebody who could penetrate that be somebody who could penetrate that be somebody who could penetrate that veil and and and and get him to think veil and and and and get him to think veil and and and and get him to think differently about how he's behaving. But differently about how he's behaving. But differently about how he's behaving. But as I discussed in my solo episode about as I discussed in my solo episode about as I discussed in my solo episode about Shia Labou, these situations are very Shia Labou, these situations are very Shia Labou, these situations are very delicate and very tricky. It's very delicate and very tricky. It's very delicate and very tricky. It's very difficult to move the needle with an difficult to move the needle with an difficult to move the needle with an individual until or unless they are individual until or unless they are individual until or unless they are receptive to receiving help. until they receptive to receiving help. until they receptive to receiving help. until they are ready and willing to engage in are ready and willing to engage in are ready and willing to engage in behavior change to translate that help behavior change to translate that help behavior change to translate that help into effective contrary action into into effective contrary action into into effective contrary action into doing something different that will not doing something different that will not doing something different that will not only lead to substance abstinence but only lead to substance abstinence but only lead to substance abstinence but ultimately and over the long term into ultimately and over the long term into ultimately and over the long term into emotional healing and well-being. emotional healing and well-being. emotional healing and well-being. Unfortunately, this is deeply Unfortunately, this is deeply Unfortunately, this is deeply confrontational to the addict. the confrontational to the addict. the confrontational to the addict. the discomfort that makes them deeply discomfort that makes them deeply discomfort that makes them deeply resistant to intervention even when it's resistant to intervention even when it's resistant to intervention even when it's at the hands of the most loving and at the hands of the most loving and at the hands of the most loving and compassionate and well-intentioned compassionate and well-intentioned compassionate and well-intentioned people whose only motive is the best people whose only motive is the best people whose only motive is the best interest of the person being intervened interest of the person being intervened interest of the person being intervened upon. So essentially what I'm saying is upon. So essentially what I'm saying is upon. So essentially what I'm saying is that until the person who is attempting that until the person who is attempting that until the person who is attempting to be helped summons the willingness to to be helped summons the willingness to to be helped summons the willingness to do something different they are going to do something different they are going to do something different they are going to continue on this crash course which I continue on this crash course which I continue on this crash course which I mentioned in the Shia episode only leads mentioned in the Shia episode only leads mentioned in the Shia episode only leads in one of three directions towards jail in one of three directions towards jail in one of three directions towards jail towards institutions and towards death. towards institutions and towards death. towards institutions and towards death. Another way to think about it is an Another way to think about it is an Another way to think about it is an elevator that is going down. You're in elevator that is going down. You're in elevator that is going down. You're in this elevator this elevator this elevator and it's on its way to the ground floor. and it's on its way to the ground floor. and it's on its way to the ground floor. The ground floor is rock bottom. The The ground floor is rock bottom. The The ground floor is rock bottom. The truth is, you can step off that elevator truth is, you can step off that elevator truth is, you can step off that elevator on any floor, but the attic often has to on any floor, but the attic often has to on any floor, but the attic often has to hit that ground level before they get hit that ground level before they get hit that ground level before they get off. Meaning they need to experience a off. Meaning they need to experience a off. Meaning they need to experience a sufficient amount of pain, sufficient sufficient amount of pain, sufficient sufficient amount of pain, sufficient enough to overwhelm the fear of change, enough to overwhelm the fear of change, enough to overwhelm the fear of change, the fear of doing something different. the fear of doing something different. the fear of doing something different. And when you think of it in this way, And when you think of it in this way, And when you think of it in this way, the elevator as metaphor, perhaps it's a the elevator as metaphor, perhaps it's a the elevator as metaphor, perhaps it's a little bit easier to wrap your head little bit easier to wrap your head little bit easier to wrap your head around or understand why someone like around or understand why someone like around or understand why someone like Tiger Woods wouldn't just step off the Tiger Woods wouldn't just step off the Tiger Woods wouldn't just step off the elevator. That's not how it works for elevator. That's not how it works for elevator. That's not how it works for the addict. even though that option is the addict. even though that option is the addict. even though that option is always available, which just is a way of always available, which just is a way of always available, which just is a way of contextualizing the confounding nature contextualizing the confounding nature contextualizing the confounding nature of the whole thing. Like why wouldn't of the whole thing. Like why wouldn't of the whole thing. Like why wouldn't you get off the elevator? But the addict you get off the elevator? But the addict you get off the elevator? But the addict brain can't solve the problem that the brain can't solve the problem that the brain can't solve the problem that the addicted brain created in the first addicted brain created in the first addicted brain created in the first place, especially when that brain is place, especially when that brain is place, especially when that brain is under the influence. under the influence. under the influence. What's required is compassion, is What's required is compassion, is What's required is compassion, is empathy, is non-judgment, and empathy, is non-judgment, and empathy, is non-judgment, and unconditional love. And unconditional love. And unconditional love. And when I watch the media reports, it's when I watch the media reports, it's when I watch the media reports, it's very difficult very difficult very difficult um because it's so ladened with judgment um because it's so ladened with judgment um because it's so ladened with judgment uh and confusion. uh and confusion. uh and confusion. But the truth is none of us even for a But the truth is none of us even for a But the truth is none of us even for a minute can even begin to imagine what minute can even begin to imagine what minute can even begin to imagine what life is like for someone like Tiger life is like for someone like Tiger life is like for someone like Tiger Woods. I mean, if we walked a single day Woods. I mean, if we walked a single day Woods. I mean, if we walked a single day in his shoes, let alone experience his in his shoes, let alone experience his in his shoes, let alone experience his series of childhood experiences, we series of childhood experiences, we series of childhood experiences, we can't begin to understand why he is can't begin to understand why he is can't begin to understand why he is making the decisions that he's making, making the decisions that he's making, making the decisions that he's making, which is one of the reasons why it's so which is one of the reasons why it's so which is one of the reasons why it's so difficult for me to watch all the media difficult for me to watch all the media difficult for me to watch all the media uh reports around this. I can't imagine uh reports around this. I can't imagine uh reports around this. I can't imagine enduring the white hot spotlight of enduring the white hot spotlight of enduring the white hot spotlight of having to struggle with a substance having to struggle with a substance having to struggle with a substance abuse problem while also having to abuse problem while also having to abuse problem while also having to manage public reception and the white manage public reception and the white manage public reception and the white hot spotlight of the media layering all hot spotlight of the media layering all hot spotlight of the media layering all of it with judgment at the same time. of it with judgment at the same time. of it with judgment at the same time. The pressure of that, the loneliness of The pressure of that, the loneliness of The pressure of that, the loneliness of that has to be completely overwhelming. that has to be completely overwhelming. that has to be completely overwhelming. And so my message for the audience is if And so my message for the audience is if And so my message for the audience is if there's anything to take away from this, there's anything to take away from this, there's anything to take away from this, perhaps it's a call to action for perhaps it's a call to action for perhaps it's a call to action for less judgment and more empathy. Because less judgment and more empathy. Because less judgment and more empathy. Because the truth of the matter is we have zero the truth of the matter is we have zero the truth of the matter is we have zero idea what it's like to be Tiger Woods, idea what it's like to be Tiger Woods, idea what it's like to be Tiger Woods, what he endured to become the person he what he endured to become the person he what he endured to become the person he is, or what it's like to walk even a is, or what it's like to walk even a is, or what it's like to walk even a single day in his shoes. Fundamentally, single day in his shoes. Fundamentally, single day in his shoes. Fundamentally, this is a person who is suffering a lot this is a person who is suffering a lot this is a person who is suffering a lot of pain. I imagine it's quite lonely. of pain. I imagine it's quite lonely. of pain. I imagine it's quite lonely. And my hope, and if there's a silver And my hope, and if there's a silver And my hope, and if there's a silver lining in this story, it's that his pain lining in this story, it's that his pain lining in this story, it's that his pain is sufficiently intense to override his is sufficiently intense to override his is sufficiently intense to override his fear of finally doing something fear of finally doing something fear of finally doing something different, of asking for help, of different, of asking for help, of different, of asking for help, of receiving help, and translating that receiving help, and translating that receiving help, and translating that help into real behavior change. Because help into real behavior change. Because help into real behavior change. Because we all want to see Tiger happy, joyous, we all want to see Tiger happy, joyous, we all want to see Tiger happy, joyous, and free. We all want to see him with a and free. We all want to see him with a and free. We all want to see him with a big smile on his face living big smile on his face living big smile on his face living uh a robust and amazing life because uh a robust and amazing life because uh a robust and amazing life because we're so inspired by his example. So, we're so inspired by his example. So, we're so inspired by his example. So, it's instructive to understand what it's instructive to understand what it's instructive to understand what created this inspirational figure in the created this inspirational figure in the created this inspirational figure in the first place to appreciate the emotional first place to appreciate the emotional first place to appreciate the emotional wounds that remain unhealed. Again, this wounds that remain unhealed. Again, this wounds that remain unhealed. Again, this is me armchair quarterbacking the whole is me armchair quarterbacking the whole is me armchair quarterbacking the whole thing. I'm not a mental health thing. I'm not a mental health thing. I'm not a mental health professional. I don't know Tiger Woods. professional. I don't know Tiger Woods. professional. I don't know Tiger Woods. Uh but it seems pretty apparent to me Uh but it seems pretty apparent to me Uh but it seems pretty apparent to me that there is some unreconciled emotions that there is some unreconciled emotions that there is some unreconciled emotions here that are beckoning and begging for here that are beckoning and begging for here that are beckoning and begging for healing and the help to heal them is healing and the help to heal them is healing and the help to heal them is available to him. And I see a very available to him. And I see a very available to him. And I see a very hopeful uh future for this person if he hopeful uh future for this person if he hopeful uh future for this person if he can only raise his hand and ask for help can only raise his hand and ask for help can only raise his hand and ask for help and receive it openheartedly with the and receive it openheartedly with the and receive it openheartedly with the open hearts of so many out there who I open hearts of so many out there who I open hearts of so many out there who I know want to help them and want to see know want to help them and want to see know want to help them and want to see him thriving. But time will tell. If him thriving. But time will tell. If him thriving. But time will tell. If there's anything I know from my there's anything I know from my there's anything I know from my experiences in the recovery community, experiences in the recovery community, experiences in the recovery community, recovery is not a linear process. Uh recovery is not a linear process. Uh recovery is not a linear process. Uh it's messy. Um it might take a minute. it's messy. Um it might take a minute. it's messy. Um it might take a minute. Uh but I am hopeful that uh he will find Uh but I am hopeful that uh he will find Uh but I am hopeful that uh he will find his way to the solution. And in the his way to the solution. And in the his way to the solution. And in the interim and in the meantime, I wish him interim and in the meantime, I wish him interim and in the meantime, I wish him well and I'm sending him love and I hope well and I'm sending him love and I hope well and I'm sending him love and I hope you are as well. So in conclusion, if you are as well. So in conclusion, if you are as well. So in conclusion, if you are somebody who is currently you are somebody who is currently you are somebody who is currently suffering, I want you to know that there suffering, I want you to know that there suffering, I want you to know that there is not only hope, but there is help. No is not only hope, but there is help. No is not only hope, but there is help. No matter how far down the scale you have matter how far down the scale you have matter how far down the scale you have fallen, no matter how dark your current fallen, no matter how dark your current fallen, no matter how dark your current situation is, there is a way out. There situation is, there is a way out. There situation is, there is a way out. There are people who want to help you. And are people who want to help you. And are people who want to help you. And there is always a glimmer of hope. So there is always a glimmer of hope. So there is always a glimmer of hope. So please do not lose sight of that. Find a please do not lose sight of that. Find a please do not lose sight of that. Find a way to raise your hand. I know that's way to raise your hand. I know that's way to raise your hand. I know that's the hardest part, asking for help and the hardest part, asking for help and the hardest part, asking for help and then when it is offered again be open to then when it is offered again be open to then when it is offered again be open to receiving it. Set aside your judgments, receiving it. Set aside your judgments, receiving it. Set aside your judgments, your uh preconceived ideas about what your uh preconceived ideas about what your uh preconceived ideas about what someone's motives are and just try to someone's motives are and just try to someone's motives are and just try to receive it openheartedly receive it openheartedly receive it openheartedly and find a way to take that first and find a way to take that first and find a way to take that first contrary action minute by minute, hour contrary action minute by minute, hour contrary action minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day. In recovery, it by hour, day by day. In recovery, it by hour, day by day. In recovery, it said all you have to do is hit the said all you have to do is hit the said all you have to do is hit the pillow sober one day, one day at a time. pillow sober one day, one day at a time. pillow sober one day, one day at a time. That's how it begins. tiny little That's how it begins. tiny little That's how it begins. tiny little actions strung together. But it begins actions strung together. But it begins actions strung together. But it begins with a single act and that single act is with a single act and that single act is with a single act and that single act is generally raising your hand, asking for generally raising your hand, asking for generally raising your hand, asking for help and being open to it. Please do help and being open to it. Please do help and being open to it. Please do that because I promise you if you do, that because I promise you if you do, that because I promise you if you do, there is help available and you can find there is help available and you can find there is help available and you can find another way. If you happen to have another way. If you happen to have another way. If you happen to have somebody in your life who is suffering somebody in your life who is suffering somebody in your life who is suffering and you're struggling with trying to and you're struggling with trying to and you're struggling with trying to understand how to help that person, my understand how to help that person, my understand how to help that person, my call to action to you is to make sure call to action to you is to make sure call to action to you is to make sure that they know that they are loved by that they know that they are loved by that they know that they are loved by you unconditionally. That you approach you unconditionally. That you approach you unconditionally. That you approach them from a place of compassion and them from a place of compassion and them from a place of compassion and non-judgment to make yourself available non-judgment to make yourself available non-judgment to make yourself available to help them with healthy boundaries so to help them with healthy boundaries so to help them with healthy boundaries so that you're not codependent or that you're not codependent or that you're not codependent or co-signing any kind of unhealthy co-signing any kind of unhealthy co-signing any kind of unhealthy behavior. but at the same time that behavior. but at the same time that behavior. but at the same time that you're available for the solution. you're available for the solution. you're available for the solution. Again, these things are messy. They Again, these things are messy. They Again, these things are messy. They don't happen overnight. They don't play don't happen overnight. They don't play don't happen overnight. They don't play out in a linear fashion. They're very out in a linear fashion. They're very out in a linear fashion. They're very difficult and every situation is difficult and every situation is difficult and every situation is different. It's a case- byase basis. Um, different. It's a case- byase basis. Um, different. It's a case- byase basis. Um, but I think if there's anything I want but I think if there's anything I want but I think if there's anything I want you to take away from this, it's that you to take away from this, it's that you to take away from this, it's that love is always the answer. More love, love is always the answer. More love, love is always the answer. More love, more love, more love. love with healthy more love, more love. love with healthy more love, more love. love with healthy boundaries, but unconditional in your boundaries, but unconditional in your boundaries, but unconditional in your availability and your willingness to availability and your willingness to availability and your willingness to help see somebody through their help see somebody through their help see somebody through their difficult time. So, that's it for solo difficult time. So, that's it for solo difficult time. So, that's it for solo episode number two. Let me know in the episode number two. Let me know in the episode number two. Let me know in the comments uh whether this worked for you. comments uh whether this worked for you. comments uh whether this worked for you. Do you enjoy these? Do you want me to do Do you enjoy these? Do you want me to do Do you enjoy these? Do you want me to do more? Uh please reach out. I'm always more? Uh please reach out. 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But uh I'm slowly somebody to talk to. But uh I'm slowly getting used to it and uh I want to know getting used to it and uh I want to know getting used to it and uh I want to know if it's providing value for you. So let if it's providing value for you. So let if it's providing value for you. So let me know and until next time uh thanks me know and until next time uh thanks me know and until next time uh thanks for watching and thanks for listening. for watching and thanks for listening. for watching and thanks for listening. Appreciate you. Peace.