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Pilates, Yoga, Bodybuilding, Powerlifting, Hybrid Training: Which Is Best? | Mind Pump 2883

Every form of exercise has value when applied appropriately, but none excels at everything. The key is matching your workout style to your actual goals—not the goals advertised by influencers. A 'bad' routine done consistently will always outperform an 'effective' routine done inconsistently. Choose

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Key Takeaway

Every form of exercise has value when applied appropriately, but none excels at everything. The key is matching your workout style to your actual goals—not the goals advertised by influencers. A 'bad' routine done consistently will always outperform an 'effective' routine done inconsistently. Choose based on what you'll actually stick with, then optimize from there.

Episode Overview

The hosts compare five popular workout modalities—Pilates, yoga, bodybuilding, powerlifting, and hybrid training—examining the pros and cons of each. They discuss how community, consistency, and individual goals should guide exercise selection, while debunking the myth that any single approach works for everyone.

Main Insights

Consistency Beats Optimization

A suboptimal workout routine performed consistently will always produce better results than a perfect routine done sporadically. The social component and enjoyment factor of exercise are often more important than the technical superiority of the program, because they directly impact adherence and long-term consistency.

Match Training to Goals, Not Aesthetics

People often choose workout styles based on how practitioners look rather than what the training actually delivers. This leads to mismatched expectations—like expecting Pilates to build significant muscle or powerlifting to create aesthetic symmetry. Understanding what each modality genuinely excels at prevents frustration and wasted effort.

Body Dysmorphia and Exercise Selection

Bodybuilding attracts people with body image issues but can worsen body dysmorphia due to its aesthetic focus. For clients with eating disorders or body image concerns, performance-based training like powerlifting provides healthier mental frameworks by shifting focus from appearance to capability and strength metrics.

The Breathing Gap in Modern Fitness

Most people breathe incorrectly during daily life and exercise, remaining in shallow, sympathetic nervous system breathing. Yoga's emphasis on diaphragmatic breathing and breath work addresses a critical health component largely ignored by other training modalities, with some clients experiencing emotional releases when properly taught to breathe.

Hybrid Training's Complexity Trap

Hybrid training promises balanced fitness but is the easiest modality to program incorrectly and the most prone to overtraining. Without proper periodization—alternating phases rather than doing everything simultaneously—it becomes 'CrossFit Lite' where practitioners end up mediocre at everything rather than excellent at anything.

Notable Quotes

"A bad quote unquote ineffective routine done consistently will always outperform an effective routine done inconsistently."

Sal

"If you want to change the way your body looks, nothing beats bodybuilding. Like period hands down."

Sal

"I would have a client, when I first learned this, I would do this with certain clients and I could tell who they were. You just kind of high strong, high stress. I'd lay them on the ground and I'd practice belly breathing with them... Half the time people would start crying."

Sal

"You watch stuff on your phone when you brushed your teeth. Like, that's how crazy it's gotten."

Justin

"If your body is a house that you're building over these decades, it's the ultimate way to lay the most solid foundation... but it's not a complete home."

Adam

Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.

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    Practice Diaphragmatic Breathing Daily

    Lie down and place one hand on your belly, one on your chest. Breathe in fully, ensuring your belly rises completely before your chest moves. This activates parasympathetic nervous system response and can release stored stress. Practice for 5-10 minutes daily, especially if you experience high stress or anxiety.

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    Choose Training Based on Your Primary Goal

    Identify your single most important fitness outcome: aesthetic change (bodybuilding), maximum strength (powerlifting), joint health and stability (Pilates), stress reduction and flexibility (yoga), or balanced athleticism (hybrid training). Commit to that modality for at least 3-6 months before adding complementary work.

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    Prioritize Community and Enjoyment Over 'Optimal' Programming

    If you've struggled with consistency, select a workout style with strong social components that you genuinely enjoy, even if it's not theoretically 'best' for your goals. The adherence benefits of enjoying your training and having community support outweigh most programming optimizations.

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    Build a Powerlifting Foundation First

    For beginners or those returning to fitness, spend your first 3-5 years focusing on powerlifting basics (squat, deadlift, bench press) to build foundational strength and movement patterns. This creates a solid base from which all other fitness modalities become easier to add and progress in later.

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It's a workout showdown. We're going to It's a workout showdown. We're going to compare the five most popular ways to compare the five most popular ways to compare the five most popular ways to work out. Pros and cons, what they're work out. Pros and cons, what they're work out. Pros and cons, what they're good for, what they're not good for. good for, what they're not good for. good for, what they're not good for. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. >> Let's get to it. >> Let's get to it. >> Let's get to it. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Is this just Do we actually look up to >> Is this just Do we actually look up to >> Is this just Do we actually look up to see if these are the most popular? see if these are the most popular? see if these are the most popular? >> These are the most popular. >> These are the most popular. >> These are the most popular. >> Yeah. I threw in uh one that might not >> Yeah. I threw in uh one that might not >> Yeah. I threw in uh one that might not be super popular, but I think would be be super popular, but I think would be be super popular, but I think would be said said said >> uh to talk about. Um but you know uh >> uh to talk about. Um but you know uh >> uh to talk about. Um but you know uh four out of these five are kind of four out of these five are kind of four out of these five are kind of popular right now. Um and I think it's popular right now. Um and I think it's popular right now. Um and I think it's important to talk about pros and cons important to talk about pros and cons important to talk about pros and cons cuz um each form of it's important to to cuz um each form of it's important to to cuz um each form of it's important to to know this that every form of exercise know this that every form of exercise know this that every form of exercise has value if it's applied appropriately. has value if it's applied appropriately. has value if it's applied appropriately. Okay? So all forms of exercise will have Okay? So all forms of exercise will have Okay? So all forms of exercise will have some benefit. Now they're not all great some benefit. Now they're not all great some benefit. Now they're not all great at everything though. Some are better at at everything though. Some are better at at everything though. Some are better at some things than others. Some are great some things than others. Some are great some things than others. Some are great at building muscle and burning body fat. at building muscle and burning body fat. at building muscle and burning body fat. others at at conditioning or stability. others at at conditioning or stability. others at at conditioning or stability. Um, and even others maybe at consistency Um, and even others maybe at consistency Um, and even others maybe at consistency for other factors. So, uh, let's talk for other factors. So, uh, let's talk for other factors. So, uh, let's talk about those so that when people make a about those so that when people make a about those so that when people make a choice, they're choosing them, you know, choice, they're choosing them, you know, choice, they're choosing them, you know, for the right reasons type of deal. So, for the right reasons type of deal. So, for the right reasons type of deal. So, we'll start out with Pilates. Pilates is we'll start out with Pilates. Pilates is we'll start out with Pilates. Pilates is having a moment right now. I don't know having a moment right now. I don't know having a moment right now. I don't know if you guys know this. if you guys know this. if you guys know this. >> Oh, I know it's very popular right now. >> Oh, I know it's very popular right now. >> Oh, I know it's very popular right now. >> It's getting even more popular uh today >> It's getting even more popular uh today >> It's getting even more popular uh today than it has been in a long time. than it has been in a long time. than it has been in a long time. >> Yeah. Know my my sister just got >> Yeah. Know my my sister just got >> Yeah. Know my my sister just got certified to be a a Pilates coach and certified to be a a Pilates coach and certified to be a a Pilates coach and trainer. trainer. trainer. >> I've seen a lot of variations of it now, >> I've seen a lot of variations of it now, >> I've seen a lot of variations of it now, too. kind of spin-offs of too. kind of spin-offs of too. kind of spin-offs of >> it's been around for a really long time >> it's been around for a really long time >> it's been around for a really long time and I feel like just again dating and I feel like just again dating and I feel like just again dating ourselves here. This I feel like this is ourselves here. This I feel like this is ourselves here. This I feel like this is the second comeback I've watched it make the second comeback I've watched it make the second comeback I've watched it make in our in our training career. So in our in our training career. So in our in our training career. So >> it's like it's gotten popular, fallen >> it's like it's gotten popular, fallen >> it's like it's gotten popular, fallen out of favor and gotten popular again. out of favor and gotten popular again. out of favor and gotten popular again. Um I do think that there is kind of a Um I do think that there is kind of a Um I do think that there is kind of a wave uh right now. What's what's your wave uh right now. What's what's your wave uh right now. What's what's your thoughts on why the resurgence right thoughts on why the resurgence right thoughts on why the resurgence right now? now? now? >> Oh well, there's two reasons why I think >> Oh well, there's two reasons why I think >> Oh well, there's two reasons why I think it's popular. I think one the people it's popular. I think one the people it's popular. I think one the people that represent Pilates in the that represent Pilates in the that represent Pilates in the advertising or I'd say in social media advertising or I'd say in social media advertising or I'd say in social media look the way a lot of people want to look the way a lot of people want to look the way a lot of people want to look. look. look. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And so this often times will sell or >> And so this often times will sell or >> And so this often times will sell or should I say make or break a form of should I say make or break a form of should I say make or break a form of exercise. exercise. exercise. >> For example, um if I show world class >> For example, um if I show world class >> For example, um if I show world class heavyweight Olympic lifters, most people heavyweight Olympic lifters, most people heavyweight Olympic lifters, most people would think that's not a great way to would think that's not a great way to would think that's not a great way to work out because they tend to be big and work out because they tend to be big and work out because they tend to be big and kind of bulbous looking. But what we kind of bulbous looking. But what we kind of bulbous looking. But what we need to consider is the the need to consider is the the need to consider is the the representatives of the form of exercise representatives of the form of exercise representatives of the form of exercise don't doesn't necessarily highlight what don't doesn't necessarily highlight what don't doesn't necessarily highlight what that form of exercise will do. A great a that form of exercise will do. A great a that form of exercise will do. A great a better example would be like looking at better example would be like looking at better example would be like looking at the top basketball players and saying the top basketball players and saying the top basketball players and saying well if I play basketball I'll be real well if I play basketball I'll be real well if I play basketball I'll be real tall. tall. tall. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh that's not the case. So I think >> Uh that's not the case. So I think >> Uh that's not the case. So I think that's part of it. But here's the other that's part of it. But here's the other that's part of it. But here's the other part of it and this is where I think part of it and this is where I think part of it and this is where I think Pilates has a real good one of the pros Pilates has a real good one of the pros Pilates has a real good one of the pros of Pilates. It's very social. of Pilates. It's very social. of Pilates. It's very social. >> And I don't mean that lightly. I think >> And I don't mean that lightly. I think >> And I don't mean that lightly. I think the social component uh the community the social component uh the community the social component uh the community component of fitness uh has been component of fitness uh has been component of fitness uh has been downplayed uh by gyms for a long time to downplayed uh by gyms for a long time to downplayed uh by gyms for a long time to the detriment. What we see in the the detriment. What we see in the the detriment. What we see in the studies is that when people have some studies is that when people have some studies is that when people have some kind of a community behind what they do, kind of a community behind what they do, kind of a community behind what they do, their consistency goes through the roof. their consistency goes through the roof. their consistency goes through the roof. And I'll say this all day long, uh a a And I'll say this all day long, uh a a And I'll say this all day long, uh a a bad quote unquote ineffective routine bad quote unquote ineffective routine bad quote unquote ineffective routine done consistently will always outperform done consistently will always outperform done consistently will always outperform a effective routine done inconsistently. a effective routine done inconsistently. a effective routine done inconsistently. So if if it's the social component So if if it's the social component So if if it's the social component >> that you're looking for, if it's the >> that you're looking for, if it's the >> that you're looking for, if it's the friendship, it's the people that go and friendship, it's the people that go and friendship, it's the people that go and show up when you go and you enjoy doing show up when you go and you enjoy doing show up when you go and you enjoy doing it and you like it because of that, it and you like it because of that, it and you like it because of that, >> that gives that's a huge plus. >> that gives that's a huge plus. >> that gives that's a huge plus. >> So that's a that's an interesting >> So that's a that's an interesting >> So that's a that's an interesting argument for why it's surged. I kind of argument for why it's surged. I kind of argument for why it's surged. I kind of feel like it's uh the antithesis to feel like it's uh the antithesis to feel like it's uh the antithesis to CrossFit. CrossFit. CrossFit. >> So I feel like uh that's the response >> So I feel like uh that's the response >> So I feel like uh that's the response like we had this CrossFit did. like we had this CrossFit did. like we had this CrossFit did. >> It's less aggressive, >> It's less aggressive, >> It's less aggressive, >> right? Crossfit did this incredible >> right? Crossfit did this incredible >> right? Crossfit did this incredible thing for thing for thing for >> Well, they had the social component too, >> Well, they had the social component too, >> Well, they had the social component too, didn't they? They had this great social didn't they? They had this great social didn't they? They had this great social component. They got people to lift the component. They got people to lift the component. They got people to lift the big compound lifts that nobody was big compound lifts that nobody was big compound lifts that nobody was doing. It got women into lifting heavy doing. It got women into lifting heavy doing. It got women into lifting heavy weight and wanting to be strong. And so weight and wanting to be strong. And so weight and wanting to be strong. And so we did such a good job uh for the last, we did such a good job uh for the last, we did such a good job uh for the last, you know, decade and a half, arguably you know, decade and a half, arguably you know, decade and a half, arguably two decades, right? That CrossFit's been two decades, right? That CrossFit's been two decades, right? That CrossFit's been around. And I feel like Pilates is kind around. And I feel like Pilates is kind around. And I feel like Pilates is kind of the counter to that is like, well, of the counter to that is like, well, of the counter to that is like, well, for those of you that don't care that for those of you that don't care that for those of you that don't care that much about PRs or want to be build all much about PRs or want to be build all much about PRs or want to be build all kinds of crazy, but you want to feel kinds of crazy, but you want to feel kinds of crazy, but you want to feel good, you want to be healthy, you want good, you want to be healthy, you want good, you want to be healthy, you want to be lean, you want to do that, like I to be lean, you want to do that, like I to be lean, you want to do that, like I feel like it's kind of feel like it's kind of feel like it's kind of >> so maybe from that angle down, but then >> so maybe from that angle down, but then >> so maybe from that angle down, but then from like up, I think it's like sort of from like up, I think it's like sort of from like up, I think it's like sort of a bridge up from yoga, which we'll get a bridge up from yoga, which we'll get a bridge up from yoga, which we'll get into that, but like yoga then to Pilates into that, but like yoga then to Pilates into that, but like yoga then to Pilates like now we have more resistance added like now we have more resistance added like now we have more resistance added that we can kind of that we can kind of that we can kind of >> agree, you know, justify. >> agree, you know, justify. >> agree, you know, justify. >> I think it's a combo of those two. I I >> I think it's a combo of those two. I I >> I think it's a combo of those two. I I absolutely think from top absolutely think from top absolutely think from top >> that's not a bad point Adam because you >> that's not a bad point Adam because you >> that's not a bad point Adam because you could be like oh I like the social could be like oh I like the social could be like oh I like the social component from CrossFit but man it burnt component from CrossFit but man it burnt component from CrossFit but man it burnt me out. me out. me out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Or I got or I have lots of >> Yeah. Yeah. Or I got or I have lots of >> Yeah. Yeah. Or I got or I have lots of friends that hurt their backense hurt friends that hurt their backense hurt friends that hurt their backense hurt their knees or hurt their shoulder and I their knees or hurt their shoulder and I their knees or hurt their shoulder and I don't want that. don't want that. don't want that. >> It's like more resembles like dance move >> It's like more resembles like dance move >> It's like more resembles like dance move kind of like something that like you kind of like something that like you kind of like something that like you know that know that know that >> particular type of consumer is like I'm >> particular type of consumer is like I'm >> particular type of consumer is like I'm used to this. I can relate to this more. used to this. I can relate to this more. used to this. I can relate to this more. Well, some of the the pros I think of Well, some of the the pros I think of Well, some of the the pros I think of Pilates is some of the So, uh, you know, Pilates is some of the So, uh, you know, Pilates is some of the So, uh, you know, part of what uh also CrossFit gave us part of what uh also CrossFit gave us part of what uh also CrossFit gave us was this huge mobility movement because was this huge mobility movement because was this huge mobility movement because it was required, right? It was like if it was required, right? It was like if it was required, right? It was like if you wanted to keep healthy joints and you wanted to keep healthy joints and you wanted to keep healthy joints and stay safe and lift like that, you needed stay safe and lift like that, you needed stay safe and lift like that, you needed to incorporate mobility. to incorporate mobility. to incorporate mobility. >> And so, what are some of the great pros >> And so, what are some of the great pros >> And so, what are some of the great pros about mobility? Well, there's a lot of about mobility? Well, there's a lot of about mobility? Well, there's a lot of crossover to those pros with Pilates. crossover to those pros with Pilates. crossover to those pros with Pilates. Yeah. a lot of the things that give you Yeah. a lot of the things that give you Yeah. a lot of the things that give you good joint health and stability is is good joint health and stability is is good joint health and stability is is what you get in in uh mobility practices what you get in in uh mobility practices what you get in in uh mobility practices and what you get in Pilates. Yeah. and what you get in Pilates. Yeah. and what you get in Pilates. Yeah. >> And so I really think CrossFit played a >> And so I really think CrossFit played a >> And so I really think CrossFit played a role in this huge surge right now. It's role in this huge surge right now. It's role in this huge surge right now. It's not new science. not new science. not new science. >> It's been around forever that the the >> It's been around forever that the the >> It's been around forever that the the the reformers haven't evolved much. They the reformers haven't evolved much. They the reformers haven't evolved much. They look the same. And so you don't it's not look the same. And so you don't it's not look the same. And so you don't it's not like you have this total different like you have this total different like you have this total different package. It's the same thing. But why is package. It's the same thing. But why is package. It's the same thing. But why is so popular now out of nowhere? Oh, I so popular now out of nowhere? Oh, I so popular now out of nowhere? Oh, I think the Yes. community. I think it's a think the Yes. community. I think it's a think the Yes. community. I think it's a great argument. Uh it provides the great argument. Uh it provides the great argument. Uh it provides the community, which a lot of things do, but community, which a lot of things do, but community, which a lot of things do, but I really think it's the answer to people I really think it's the answer to people I really think it's the answer to people that want to be fit, but al and healthy that want to be fit, but al and healthy that want to be fit, but al and healthy and mobile joints, but uh CrossFit is and mobile joints, but uh CrossFit is and mobile joints, but uh CrossFit is dangerous. dangerous. dangerous. >> Yeah. Well, Pilates is uh low impact, >> Yeah. Well, Pilates is uh low impact, >> Yeah. Well, Pilates is uh low impact, relatively uh it can be intense. So, relatively uh it can be intense. So, relatively uh it can be intense. So, people listening like it's hard. No, no, people listening like it's hard. No, no, people listening like it's hard. No, no, I don't mean it's not intense. I mean I don't mean it's not intense. I mean I don't mean it's not intense. I mean it's it's it's >> uh has a low uh risk of >> uh has a low uh risk of >> uh has a low uh risk of >> Yeah. The risk factor is really low. >> Yeah. The risk factor is really low. >> Yeah. The risk factor is really low. >> Yeah. Low risk of injury. It's good for >> Yeah. Low risk of injury. It's good for >> Yeah. Low risk of injury. It's good for stability. you're working joints and stability. you're working joints and stability. you're working joints and very shortened kind of ranges of motion. very shortened kind of ranges of motion. very shortened kind of ranges of motion. So, that can help build stability. It's So, that can help build stability. It's So, that can help build stability. It's not a great muscle builder. It's not not a great muscle builder. It's not not a great muscle builder. It's not great at building like athletic stamina. great at building like athletic stamina. great at building like athletic stamina. Um, doing Pilates will get you better at Um, doing Pilates will get you better at Um, doing Pilates will get you better at Pilates. You'll build some strength, but Pilates. You'll build some strength, but Pilates. You'll build some strength, but very very minimal uh strength in very very minimal uh strength in very very minimal uh strength in comparison to strength training. comparison to strength training. comparison to strength training. >> Strength endurance for >> Strength endurance for >> Strength endurance for >> and it's not like a great like aesthetic >> and it's not like a great like aesthetic >> and it's not like a great like aesthetic uh form of exercise. What I mean by that uh form of exercise. What I mean by that uh form of exercise. What I mean by that is not that it doesn't look aesthetic. is not that it doesn't look aesthetic. is not that it doesn't look aesthetic. Like if you watch Pilates, it looks Like if you watch Pilates, it looks Like if you watch Pilates, it looks nice. nice. nice. >> Uh but in terms of like sculpting and >> Uh but in terms of like sculpting and >> Uh but in terms of like sculpting and shaping your body, shaping your body, shaping your body, >> uh it's not a very effective uh >> uh it's not a very effective uh >> uh it's not a very effective uh >> it's terrible. It's terrible for that. >> it's terrible. It's terrible for that. >> it's terrible. It's terrible for that. And uh and I know we're going to get And uh and I know we're going to get And uh and I know we're going to get heat for saying that, but listen, this heat for saying that, but listen, this heat for saying that, but listen, this is true. is true. is true. >> Uh not only have I trained a lot of PL I >> Uh not only have I trained a lot of PL I >> Uh not only have I trained a lot of PL I have recently helped coaches that own have recently helped coaches that own have recently helped coaches that own Pilates studios, and the reason why they Pilates studios, and the reason why they Pilates studios, and the reason why they came to me was because they that's all came to me was because they that's all came to me was because they that's all they've been doing. and they can't get they've been doing. and they can't get they've been doing. and they can't get this look that they want, this look that they want, this look that they want, >> right? And so I have found that a lot of >> right? And so I have found that a lot of >> right? And so I have found that a lot of people that do it feel great, you know, people that do it feel great, you know, people that do it feel great, you know, I feel great doing it, I love doing it. I feel great doing it, I love doing it. I feel great doing it, I love doing it. Um, but then there's this part of my Um, but then there's this part of my Um, but then there's this part of my body that I don't like or that I want body that I don't like or that I want body that I don't like or that I want and just it doesn't provide sculpting and just it doesn't provide sculpting and just it doesn't provide sculpting like traditional strength training does. like traditional strength training does. like traditional strength training does. traditional strength training. Somebody traditional strength training. Somebody traditional strength training. Somebody can come to me and go, "Adam, I don't can come to me and go, "Adam, I don't can come to me and go, "Adam, I don't like the way my shoulders look or I wish like the way my shoulders look or I wish like the way my shoulders look or I wish I had a bigger I wish I had a bigger I had a bigger I wish I had a bigger I had a bigger I wish I had a bigger butt or I wish I had better quads or butt or I wish I had better quads or butt or I wish I had better quads or calves or name the muscle group or the calves or name the muscle group or the calves or name the muscle group or the body and you can sculpt it and build it body and you can sculpt it and build it body and you can sculpt it and build it through traditional strength training." through traditional strength training." through traditional strength training." Not you can a little with Pilates, but Not you can a little with Pilates, but Not you can a little with Pilates, but not very much. not very much. not very much. >> Very minimal. You're going to get very, >> Very minimal. You're going to get very, >> Very minimal. You're going to get very, very minimal strength, muscle gain for very minimal strength, muscle gain for very minimal strength, muscle gain for fat loss as a form of exercise. It's not fat loss as a form of exercise. It's not fat loss as a form of exercise. It's not super effective. Although most of that super effective. Although most of that super effective. Although most of that is um, you know, is always diet. Um, is um, you know, is always diet. Um, is um, you know, is always diet. Um, it's not really muscle preserving like it's not really muscle preserving like it's not really muscle preserving like other forms of exercise. It will improve other forms of exercise. It will improve other forms of exercise. It will improve fitness. It will improve health. It will fitness. It will improve health. It will fitness. It will improve health. It will improve stability. It is low risk of improve stability. It is low risk of improve stability. It is low risk of injury when done properly. It does have injury when done properly. It does have injury when done properly. It does have a really good social component. And a really good social component. And a really good social component. And here's the deal. If you love it, uh, here's the deal. If you love it, uh, here's the deal. If you love it, uh, because you enjoy that form of exercise, because you enjoy that form of exercise, because you enjoy that form of exercise, that's a big plus right there. that's a big plus right there. that's a big plus right there. >> I love if if a client loves it, I love >> I love if if a client loves it, I love >> I love if if a client loves it, I love for them to continue doing it to for them to continue doing it to for them to continue doing it to complement a good strength training complement a good strength training complement a good strength training routine. routine. routine. >> Uh, I've never told a client that loves >> Uh, I've never told a client that loves >> Uh, I've never told a client that loves Pilates, stop doing it. I would never do Pilates, stop doing it. I would never do Pilates, stop doing it. I would never do that. I think that it's got enough that. I think that it's got enough that. I think that it's got enough benefits that if you've been consistent benefits that if you've been consistent benefits that if you've been consistent with it, we know the value of the with it, we know the value of the with it, we know the value of the consistency is. And but if they're consistency is. And but if they're consistency is. And but if they're coming to me, they say, "I love Pilates, coming to me, they say, "I love Pilates, coming to me, they say, "I love Pilates, but then I want these other things." I but then I want these other things." I but then I want these other things." I say, "Listen, let's keep Pilates in say, "Listen, let's keep Pilates in say, "Listen, let's keep Pilates in there once a week because you like the there once a week because you like the there once a week because you like the class, you like doing that. I think it's class, you like doing that. I think it's class, you like doing that. I think it's good for you, but then I want you good for you, but then I want you good for you, but then I want you another day or two a week. We're going another day or two a week. We're going another day or two a week. We're going to be doing these strength training to be doing these strength training to be doing these strength training exercises that's going to help build the exercises that's going to help build the exercises that's going to help build the body you want." body you want." body you want." >> Also, check it out. It's the anniversary >> Also, check it out. It's the anniversary >> Also, check it out. It's the anniversary of MAPS Anabolic, our most popular of MAPS Anabolic, our most popular of MAPS Anabolic, our most popular program. Over 100,000 people have program. Over 100,000 people have program. 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Uh yoga, I mean pros, uh like real yoga, traditional pros, uh like real yoga, traditional pros, uh like real yoga, traditional yoga, uh tends to be quite recuperative. yoga, uh tends to be quite recuperative. yoga, uh tends to be quite recuperative. That doesn't mean it's not hard because That doesn't mean it's not hard because That doesn't mean it's not hard because it can be difficult. Uh but it does help it can be difficult. Uh but it does help it can be difficult. Uh but it does help people kind of achieve a sense of calm people kind of achieve a sense of calm people kind of achieve a sense of calm and peace. This is why people tend to do and peace. This is why people tend to do and peace. This is why people tend to do yoga. yoga. yoga. >> It's great for functional flexibility. >> It's great for functional flexibility. >> It's great for functional flexibility. It's actually not bad for functional It's actually not bad for functional It's actually not bad for functional flexibility, meaning the kind of flexibility, meaning the kind of flexibility, meaning the kind of flexibility that um you can actually flexibility that um you can actually flexibility that um you can actually apply in the real world when you're apply in the real world when you're apply in the real world when you're doing it properly. So, a good yoga doing it properly. So, a good yoga doing it properly. So, a good yoga instructor does cue you properly to stay instructor does cue you properly to stay instructor does cue you properly to stay active in certain poses. You're not just active in certain poses. You're not just active in certain poses. You're not just holding a stretch except for maybe yin holding a stretch except for maybe yin holding a stretch except for maybe yin yoga, which is a very specific form of yoga, which is a very specific form of yoga, which is a very specific form of yoga. yoga. yoga. >> So, it's really good for that. It's >> So, it's really good for that. It's >> So, it's really good for that. It's really good for relaxation. It's got a really good for relaxation. It's got a really good for relaxation. It's got a it's got an interesting community. Uh it's got an interesting community. Uh it's got an interesting community. Uh not that there's a lot of socializing not that there's a lot of socializing not that there's a lot of socializing happening yoga class, but there tends to happening yoga class, but there tends to happening yoga class, but there tends to be a lot of empathy in yoga classes. is be a lot of empathy in yoga classes. is be a lot of empathy in yoga classes. is if you've ever attended one, you know if you've ever attended one, you know if you've ever attended one, you know what I'm talking about. what I'm talking about. what I'm talking about. >> They incorporate a little more >> They incorporate a little more >> They incorporate a little more spirituality in it. spirituality in it. spirituality in it. >> They do. Typically, >> They do. Typically, >> They do. Typically, >> they do. It's not a great way uh to >> they do. It's not a great way uh to >> they do. It's not a great way uh to change the way your body looks. It just change the way your body looks. It just change the way your body looks. It just isn't uh it doesn't build muscle, isn't uh it doesn't build muscle, isn't uh it doesn't build muscle, doesn't you know, burn a lot of doesn't you know, burn a lot of doesn't you know, burn a lot of calories. You'll get some maybe calories. You'll get some maybe calories. You'll get some maybe strength, stamina depending on the form strength, stamina depending on the form strength, stamina depending on the form of yoga. Now, I know yoga is now such a of yoga. Now, I know yoga is now such a of yoga. Now, I know yoga is now such a broad term and it can mean like yoga broad term and it can mean like yoga broad term and it can mean like yoga with dumbbells and all. We're talking with dumbbells and all. We're talking with dumbbells and all. We're talking about traditional yoga. about traditional yoga. about traditional yoga. >> Um but as a form of exercise to really >> Um but as a form of exercise to really >> Um but as a form of exercise to really change the way you look or dramatically change the way you look or dramatically change the way you look or dramatically improve improve improve >> your fitness, there's definitely better >> your fitness, there's definitely better >> your fitness, there's definitely better forms. Well, I mean it's I think again forms. Well, I mean it's I think again forms. Well, I mean it's I think again to the end range strength and like the to the end range strength and like the to the end range strength and like the active poses where you're actually active poses where you're actually active poses where you're actually paying attention to a lot of the things. paying attention to a lot of the things. paying attention to a lot of the things. A lot of value to that, a lot of value A lot of value to that, a lot of value A lot of value to that, a lot of value to actually like articulating, you know, to actually like articulating, you know, to actually like articulating, you know, your toes and ankles and like really your toes and ankles and like really your toes and ankles and like really joint uh focused type uh positioning. joint uh focused type uh positioning. joint uh focused type uh positioning. Um, and I think that that can apply Um, and I think that that can apply Um, and I think that that can apply really well uh to, you know, benefit really well uh to, you know, benefit really well uh to, you know, benefit strength training, but I think it's its strength training, but I think it's its strength training, but I think it's its own modality completely. I see it as a own modality completely. I see it as a own modality completely. I see it as a more valuable tool today than I've ever more valuable tool today than I've ever more valuable tool today than I've ever thought in the past. Um I'll tell you thought in the past. Um I'll tell you thought in the past. Um I'll tell you why. Uh wife and I were talking about uh why. Uh wife and I were talking about uh why. Uh wife and I were talking about uh one of our family members who's seeing a one of our family members who's seeing a one of our family members who's seeing a functional practitioner and you know functional practitioner and you know functional practitioner and you know really trying to nail down a lot of the really trying to nail down a lot of the really trying to nail down a lot of the stress and anxiety in their life and and stress and anxiety in their life and and stress and anxiety in their life and and they were you know balancing diet and they were you know balancing diet and they were you know balancing diet and hormones and all these things. And one hormones and all these things. And one hormones and all these things. And one of the recommendations was that um you of the recommendations was that um you of the recommendations was that um you know you really need to just take 10 know you really need to just take 10 know you really need to just take 10 minutes of silence. No phone, no minutes of silence. No phone, no minutes of silence. No phone, no anything. Just anything. Just anything. Just >> and this family member would reported >> and this family member would reported >> and this family member would reported back, oh my god, I can't do it. I can't back, oh my god, I can't do it. I can't back, oh my god, I can't do it. I can't even 10 minutes. I didn't realize that even 10 minutes. I didn't realize that even 10 minutes. I didn't realize that just not having anything I was doing for just not having anything I was doing for just not having anything I was doing for in 10 minutes of complete silence and in 10 minutes of complete silence and in 10 minutes of complete silence and peace peace peace >> was so out of the normal. But yet I mean >> was so out of the normal. But yet I mean >> was so out of the normal. But yet I mean prescribed to her that you need to do prescribed to her that you need to do prescribed to her that you need to do this and that's only asking for 10 this and that's only asking for 10 this and that's only asking for 10 minutes. Most yoga classes are an hour minutes. Most yoga classes are an hour minutes. Most yoga classes are an hour long. And I think that she's more common long. And I think that she's more common long. And I think that she's more common than we realize with this generation than we realize with this generation than we realize with this generation that's coming up um in the the iPhone that's coming up um in the the iPhone that's coming up um in the the iPhone generation and distraction of like, you generation and distraction of like, you generation and distraction of like, you know, we we don't go to the bathroom know, we we don't go to the bathroom know, we we don't go to the bathroom alone anymore. You know what I'm saying? alone anymore. You know what I'm saying? alone anymore. You know what I'm saying? You're you're on your phone. You don't You're you're on your phone. You don't You're you're on your phone. You don't wait in line anymore. wait in line anymore. wait in line anymore. >> Dude, there were there was there's posts >> Dude, there were there was there's posts >> Dude, there were there was there's posts on TikTok. My daughter was telling me on TikTok. My daughter was telling me on TikTok. My daughter was telling me about this uh or Instagram uh of kids about this uh or Instagram uh of kids about this uh or Instagram uh of kids who are doing they say raw dogging who are doing they say raw dogging who are doing they say raw dogging >> as a raw dogging flights. This means >> as a raw dogging flights. This means >> as a raw dogging flights. This means something different. When we were kids, something different. When we were kids, something different. When we were kids, every time I say raw dog, I'm like, every time I say raw dog, I'm like, every time I say raw dog, I'm like, "Okay." "Okay." "Okay." >> It just means without tech. >> It just means without tech. >> It just means without tech. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They're like, "I'm going to brush." >> They're like, "I'm going to brush." >> They're like, "I'm going to brush." They're like, "I'm going to brush I'm They're like, "I'm going to brush I'm They're like, "I'm going to brush I'm going to raw dog brushing my teeth." I'm going to raw dog brushing my teeth." I'm going to raw dog brushing my teeth." I'm like, "Wait a minute." like, "Wait a minute." like, "Wait a minute." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What are you talking about? >> What are you talking about? >> What are you talking about? >> You watch stuff on your phone when you >> You watch stuff on your phone when you >> You watch stuff on your phone when you brushed your teeth. brushed your teeth. brushed your teeth. >> Like, that's how crazy it's gotten. >> Like, that's how crazy it's gotten. >> Like, that's how crazy it's gotten. >> So, my point is, and I think that's more >> So, my point is, and I think that's more >> So, my point is, and I think that's more common than it is not. So much that common than it is not. So much that common than it is not. So much that there's this movement of raw dogging on there's this movement of raw dogging on there's this movement of raw dogging on TikTok that it's a movement and people TikTok that it's a movement and people TikTok that it's a movement and people have to try and do simple tasks like have to try and do simple tasks like have to try and do simple tasks like brushing your teeth. So, brushing your teeth. So, brushing your teeth. So, man. Uh, yoga's always been an important man. Uh, yoga's always been an important man. Uh, yoga's always been an important practice and valuable and you can make practice and valuable and you can make practice and valuable and you can make the case for it. I think today uh it's the case for it. I think today uh it's the case for it. I think today uh it's it's found a new importance um for a lot it's found a new importance um for a lot it's found a new importance um for a lot of people and a lot of of people and a lot of of people and a lot of >> I'll say I'll add this uh it's the best >> I'll say I'll add this uh it's the best >> I'll say I'll add this uh it's the best it's the best form of exercise I found it's the best form of exercise I found it's the best form of exercise I found uh for breathing. uh for breathing. uh for breathing. >> Uh I don't know any other form of >> Uh I don't know any other form of >> Uh I don't know any other form of exercise that really focuses on exercise that really focuses on exercise that really focuses on breathing breathing breathing >> and breath work as much as yoga. Now, if >> and breath work as much as yoga. Now, if >> and breath work as much as yoga. Now, if you've never done this before, you might you've never done this before, you might you've never done this before, you might be like, "What are you talking about? I be like, "What are you talking about? I be like, "What are you talking about? I can I breathe no problem. It's not a big can I breathe no problem. It's not a big can I breathe no problem. It's not a big deal." You would be surprised at how deal." You would be surprised at how deal." You would be surprised at how wrong you breathe. And I don't mean you wrong you breathe. And I don't mean you wrong you breathe. And I don't mean you breathe wrong, like you can't get breathe wrong, like you can't get breathe wrong, like you can't get oxygen. oxygen. oxygen. >> Uh but you're not breathing with these >> Uh but you're not breathing with these >> Uh but you're not breathing with these full diaphragmatic breaths. You're kind full diaphragmatic breaths. You're kind full diaphragmatic breaths. You're kind of in this, of in this, of in this, >> you know, sympathetic state all the >> you know, sympathetic state all the >> you know, sympathetic state all the time. Shallow breathing. You don't even time. Shallow breathing. You don't even time. Shallow breathing. You don't even realize it. When I would have clients, realize it. When I would have clients, realize it. When I would have clients, this is this shocked me the first time this is this shocked me the first time this is this shocked me the first time this happened. And then every other time this happened. And then every other time this happened. And then every other time it happened, I was like, "Oh, this it happened, I was like, "Oh, this it happened, I was like, "Oh, this there's a 50/50 chance this can happen." there's a 50/50 chance this can happen." there's a 50/50 chance this can happen." When I would have a client, when I first When I would have a client, when I first When I would have a client, when I first learned this, I would do this with learned this, I would do this with learned this, I would do this with certain clients and I could tell who certain clients and I could tell who certain clients and I could tell who they were. You just kind of high strong, they were. You just kind of high strong, they were. You just kind of high strong, high stress. I'd lay them on the ground high stress. I'd lay them on the ground high stress. I'd lay them on the ground and I'd practice belly breathing with and I'd practice belly breathing with and I'd practice belly breathing with them. And the way I would do it with them. And the way I would do it with them. And the way I would do it with them is I'd say, "Okay, put one hand on them is I'd say, "Okay, put one hand on them is I'd say, "Okay, put one hand on your belly button, one hand on your your belly button, one hand on your your belly button, one hand on your chest. Breathe in fully and don't let chest. Breathe in fully and don't let chest. Breathe in fully and don't let your chest rise until your belly fully your chest rise until your belly fully your chest rise until your belly fully rises." So, this kind of forces what's rises." So, this kind of forces what's rises." So, this kind of forces what's called a diaphragmatic breath. And I'm called a diaphragmatic breath. And I'm called a diaphragmatic breath. And I'm not even making this up. Half the time not even making this up. Half the time not even making this up. Half the time people would start crying. people would start crying. people would start crying. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> They'd literally sit there. I remember >> They'd literally sit there. I remember >> They'd literally sit there. I remember the first time this happened, this woman the first time this happened, this woman the first time this happened, this woman was doing it over and over again. was doing it over and over again. was doing it over and over again. >> It's like a bigger release. And then she >> It's like a bigger release. And then she >> It's like a bigger release. And then she started to tear up and then she started started to tear up and then she started started to tear up and then she started to cry. She kind of turned over and I to cry. She kind of turned over and I to cry. She kind of turned over and I was like confused. I'm like, "What did I was like confused. I'm like, "What did I was like confused. I'm like, "What did I just do? [laughter] I don't know. I just do? [laughter] I don't know. I just do? [laughter] I don't know. I don't don't don't >> I'm not trained for this." >> I'm not trained for this." >> I'm not trained for this." >> And no, I wasn't ready for this at all. >> And no, I wasn't ready for this at all. >> And no, I wasn't ready for this at all. But but the woman that I worked with in But but the woman that I worked with in But but the woman that I worked with in my studio who taught me this, she's my studio who taught me this, she's my studio who taught me this, she's like, "Sometimes that happens because like, "Sometimes that happens because like, "Sometimes that happens because people are holding on to so much stuff." people are holding on to so much stuff." people are holding on to so much stuff." Yoga focuses on breath work uh more than Yoga focuses on breath work uh more than Yoga focuses on breath work uh more than other forms of exercise. And I could see other forms of exercise. And I could see other forms of exercise. And I could see them really shine there. By the way, to them really shine there. By the way, to them really shine there. By the way, to go to the spiritual part, Justin, which go to the spiritual part, Justin, which go to the spiritual part, Justin, which is so funny you said that. Uh for some is so funny you said that. Uh for some is so funny you said that. Uh for some people that's a con. So you'll see a lot people that's a con. So you'll see a lot people that's a con. So you'll see a lot of like Christians who will say I'm not of like Christians who will say I'm not of like Christians who will say I'm not going to do yoga because it is a going to do yoga because it is a going to do yoga because it is a religious practice if you actually hear religious practice if you actually hear religious practice if you actually hear the chance. the chance. the chance. >> That's true. But that's started. That's >> That's true. But that's started. That's >> That's true. But that's started. That's right. That's right. Next we'll get to right. That's right. Next we'll get to right. That's right. Next we'll get to bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is more like bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is more like bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is more like traditional strength training. traditional strength training. traditional strength training. >> Uh I'll start with the pros right out >> Uh I'll start with the pros right out >> Uh I'll start with the pros right out the gates. It's if you want to change the gates. It's if you want to change the gates. It's if you want to change the way your body looks, nothing beats the way your body looks, nothing beats the way your body looks, nothing beats bodybuilding. Like period hands down. bodybuilding. Like period hands down. bodybuilding. Like period hands down. It's like It's like It's like >> hence the name. >> hence the name. >> hence the name. >> It's Yeah. It's in its own categories >> It's Yeah. It's in its own categories >> It's Yeah. It's in its own categories everybody. If you want to change how you everybody. If you want to change how you everybody. If you want to change how you look, if you want to shape and sculpt look, if you want to shape and sculpt look, if you want to shape and sculpt your body, bodybuilding is going to do your body, bodybuilding is going to do your body, bodybuilding is going to do it faster and better and more it faster and better and more it faster and better and more effectively than anything else. Uh, and effectively than anything else. Uh, and effectively than anything else. Uh, and if you want to build muscle, of course, if you want to build muscle, of course, if you want to build muscle, of course, that's part of the process. It wins, that's part of the process. It wins, that's part of the process. It wins, hands down. It's the best for that. hands down. It's the best for that. hands down. It's the best for that. >> It's It's hard for me to even point out >> It's It's hard for me to even point out >> It's It's hard for me to even point out many cons here. I I we can find some. many cons here. I I we can find some. many cons here. I I we can find some. But [clears throat] considering that But [clears throat] considering that But [clears throat] considering that a vast majority of anybody and everybody a vast majority of anybody and everybody a vast majority of anybody and everybody that we've all trained um comes to you that we've all trained um comes to you that we've all trained um comes to you with wanting even if they have general with wanting even if they have general with wanting even if they have general health goals, longevity stuff they talk health goals, longevity stuff they talk health goals, longevity stuff they talk about being able to play with their about being able to play with their about being able to play with their kids, all these other wonderful reasons kids, all these other wonderful reasons kids, all these other wonderful reasons to be healthy and fit. There tends to be to be healthy and fit. There tends to be to be healthy and fit. There tends to be a a body look or goal a a body look or goal a a body look or goal >> uh rooted in all of it. It's very rarely >> uh rooted in all of it. It's very rarely >> uh rooted in all of it. It's very rarely did I ever get a client. Very very did I ever get a client. Very very did I ever get a client. Very very rarely that came in, you know, and and rarely that came in, you know, and and rarely that came in, you know, and and hired me and said, "I just I just want hired me and said, "I just I just want hired me and said, "I just I just want to be healthy or just live long. I don't to be healthy or just live long. I don't to be healthy or just live long. I don't really care how I really care how I really care how I >> There's there's always aesthetic. >> There's there's always aesthetic. >> There's there's always aesthetic. >> There's there is almost always some sort >> There's there is almost always some sort >> There's there is almost always some sort of an aesthetic goal." And if that's of an aesthetic goal." And if that's of an aesthetic goal." And if that's true that large of a percentage feels true that large of a percentage feels true that large of a percentage feels that way, uh there's no mo no method or that way, uh there's no mo no method or that way, uh there's no mo no method or modality better than bodybuilding. modality better than bodybuilding. modality better than bodybuilding. >> No, it's it's super effective for that. >> No, it's it's super effective for that. >> No, it's it's super effective for that. It's also It's also It's also >> uh if you apply it properly and that's >> uh if you apply it properly and that's >> uh if you apply it properly and that's the that's the context for all these the that's the context for all these the that's the context for all these forms. Okay. Uh, it's the it's one of forms. Okay. Uh, it's the it's one of forms. Okay. Uh, it's the it's one of the most individualizable forms of the most individualizable forms of the most individualizable forms of exercise. I mean, I can do, you know, exercise. I mean, I can do, you know, exercise. I mean, I can do, you know, strength training, bodybuilding training strength training, bodybuilding training strength training, bodybuilding training on someone who's 90. on someone who's 90. on someone who's 90. >> I could do it on someone who's 12. I can >> I could do it on someone who's 12. I can >> I could do it on someone who's 12. I can do it on someone who just got out of a do it on someone who just got out of a do it on someone who just got out of a car accident is ready for rehab. Uh, I car accident is ready for rehab. Uh, I car accident is ready for rehab. Uh, I could do it for men, women. I could do could do it for men, women. I could do could do it for men, women. I could do it for people with hormone issues, no it for people with hormone issues, no it for people with hormone issues, no hormone issues. I could do it for it. It hormone issues. I could do it for it. It hormone issues. I could do it for it. It doesn't matter who. I can apply doesn't matter who. I can apply doesn't matter who. I can apply bodybuilding in a very individualizable bodybuilding in a very individualizable bodybuilding in a very individualizable way. Whereas other forms of exercise way. Whereas other forms of exercise way. Whereas other forms of exercise like Pilates and yoga, you're in the like Pilates and yoga, you're in the like Pilates and yoga, you're in the class, you can individualize it to an class, you can individualize it to an class, you can individualize it to an extent, but it's not so individualizable extent, but it's not so individualizable extent, but it's not so individualizable that I can give it to anybody. Whereas that I can give it to anybody. Whereas that I can give it to anybody. Whereas bodybuilding, I totally can do that. bodybuilding, I totally can do that. bodybuilding, I totally can do that. >> I mean, you can, you know, draw some >> I mean, you can, you know, draw some >> I mean, you can, you know, draw some negatives from it from the vanity negatives from it from the vanity negatives from it from the vanity perspective, perspective, perspective, which also too, uh, the shortened range which also too, uh, the shortened range which also too, uh, the shortened range of motion and and like not really of motion and and like not really of motion and and like not really incorporating your entire body as a full incorporating your entire body as a full incorporating your entire body as a full movement. Uh, and you're you're pretty movement. Uh, and you're you're pretty movement. Uh, and you're you're pretty segmented in your movement which creates segmented in your movement which creates segmented in your movement which creates dysfunction, but it's so versatile to dysfunction, but it's so versatile to dysfunction, but it's so versatile to your guys' points and like it it has your guys' points and like it it has your guys' points and like it it has there's so many ways like the risk there's so many ways like the risk there's so many ways like the risk factor is really low. You could really factor is really low. You could really factor is really low. You could really um, you know, monitor that pretty well um, you know, monitor that pretty well um, you know, monitor that pretty well and you can apply it to so many and you can apply it to so many and you can apply it to so many different types of people. Like I use it different types of people. Like I use it different types of people. Like I use it for like every one of my clients. Uh, for like every one of my clients. Uh, for like every one of my clients. Uh, but yeah, if you could get too into it, but yeah, if you could get too into it, but yeah, if you could get too into it, you could get to the point where the you could get to the point where the you could get to the point where the extremes is very vanity focused. extremes is very vanity focused. extremes is very vanity focused. >> 100%. I was just going to say it becomes >> 100%. I was just going to say it becomes >> 100%. I was just going to say it becomes very body centric. uh the way I look very body centric. uh the way I look very body centric. uh the way I look becomes such a high focus with becomes such a high focus with becomes such a high focus with bodybuilding because it's so powerful at bodybuilding because it's so powerful at bodybuilding because it's so powerful at changing how you look it can become all changing how you look it can become all changing how you look it can become all about how you look um and bodybuilding about how you look um and bodybuilding about how you look um and bodybuilding does attract more than other forms of does attract more than other forms of does attract more than other forms of exercise I would say not the most but exercise I would say not the most but exercise I would say not the most but because other forms of exercise do this because other forms of exercise do this because other forms of exercise do this as well but it does attract a lot of as well but it does attract a lot of as well but it does attract a lot of people with body dysmorphia people with body dysmorphia people with body dysmorphia >> it's the magnet of exercise forms for >> it's the magnet of exercise forms for >> it's the magnet of exercise forms for body dysmorphia for a reason part of body dysmorphia for a reason part of body dysmorphia for a reason part of it's because of what it's so good at it's because of what it's so good at it's because of what it's so good at >> but that's not to say it can't cause >> but that's not to say it can't cause >> but that's not to say it can't cause body dysmorphia to get worse often times body dysmorphia to get worse often times body dysmorphia to get worse often times times you'll see somebody with body times you'll see somebody with body times you'll see somebody with body dysmorphia get into bodybuilding as a dysmorphia get into bodybuilding as a dysmorphia get into bodybuilding as a way to solve their body dysmorphia only way to solve their body dysmorphia only way to solve their body dysmorphia only to find it makes it far worse. to find it makes it far worse. to find it makes it far worse. >> That's the only real con that I have and >> That's the only real con that I have and >> That's the only real con that I have and even the uh the the point that we make even the uh the the point that we make even the uh the the point that we make about shorten range of motion that we've about shorten range of motion that we've about shorten range of motion that we've talked about for I I see that evolving. talked about for I I see that evolving. talked about for I I see that evolving. >> I I like to think that we play a role in >> I I like to think that we play a role in >> I I like to think that we play a role in that. Uh I think we have a decent loud that. Uh I think we have a decent loud that. Uh I think we have a decent loud voice in the bodybuilding space voice in the bodybuilding space voice in the bodybuilding space >> uh and fitness space around full range >> uh and fitness space around full range >> uh and fitness space around full range of motion. you see uh pros like Chris of motion. you see uh pros like Chris of motion. you see uh pros like Chris Bumstead who's you know uber famous in Bumstead who's you know uber famous in Bumstead who's you know uber famous in the space taking exercises through a the space taking exercises through a the space taking exercises through a full range of motion and so I do believe full range of motion and so I do believe full range of motion and so I do believe it's actually evolving. I think that it's actually evolving. I think that it's actually evolving. I think that >> that's moved away from just machine >> that's moved away from just machine >> that's moved away from just machine training I think which is kind of like training I think which is kind of like training I think which is kind of like what happened in all these commercial what happened in all these commercial what happened in all these commercial gyms and you know yeah you're right it gyms and you know yeah you're right it gyms and you know yeah you're right it is has evolved a lot and has is has evolved a lot and has is has evolved a lot and has incorporated a lot more incorporated a lot more incorporated a lot more >> you know free weights >> you know free weights >> you know free weights >> but there definitely is a client that >> but there definitely is a client that >> but there definitely is a client that >> even is as as pro I am to bodybuilding >> even is as as pro I am to bodybuilding >> even is as as pro I am to bodybuilding as a modality that I'd absolutely stay as a modality that I'd absolutely stay as a modality that I'd absolutely stay away from and and if if it's there's away from and and if if it's there's away from and and if if it's there's very clear signs of body dysmorphia from very clear signs of body dysmorphia from very clear signs of body dysmorphia from a client um then you want to move them a client um then you want to move them a client um then you want to move them from this and we talk about that all the from this and we talk about that all the from this and we talk about that all the time. We talk about not focusing on the time. We talk about not focusing on the time. We talk about not focusing on the scale in the mirror and using strength scale in the mirror and using strength scale in the mirror and using strength as the main metric and and so uh yeah as the main metric and and so uh yeah as the main metric and and so uh yeah bodybuilding for that client is the bodybuilding for that client is the bodybuilding for that client is the absolute worst absolute worst absolute worst >> perfect which takes us to powerlifting. >> perfect which takes us to powerlifting. >> perfect which takes us to powerlifting. Powerlifting is a form of strength Powerlifting is a form of strength Powerlifting is a form of strength training but the focus is not on how I training but the focus is not on how I training but the focus is not on how I look. It's rather how much weight I can look. It's rather how much weight I can look. It's rather how much weight I can move. Uh in particular there's three move. Uh in particular there's three move. Uh in particular there's three main lifts. These aren't the only lifts main lifts. These aren't the only lifts main lifts. These aren't the only lifts that you do that you do that you do >> as a powerlifter. >> as a powerlifter. >> as a powerlifter. >> Uh it's a squat, deadlift, and bench >> Uh it's a squat, deadlift, and bench >> Uh it's a squat, deadlift, and bench press. but they are the main lifts that press. but they are the main lifts that press. but they are the main lifts that you would use uh to to to scale your you would use uh to to to scale your you would use uh to to to scale your strength or to compare your strength. strength or to compare your strength. strength or to compare your strength. Powerlifting, one of the pros is it's Powerlifting, one of the pros is it's Powerlifting, one of the pros is it's not body centric. It's a it's a great not body centric. It's a it's a great not body centric. It's a it's a great form of strength training in particular form of strength training in particular form of strength training in particular for people who have body dysmorphia. for people who have body dysmorphia. for people who have body dysmorphia. When I would train a young lady When I would train a young lady When I would train a young lady >> who wanted to change her body, wanted to >> who wanted to change her body, wanted to >> who wanted to change her body, wanted to work out, but had a history of eating work out, but had a history of eating work out, but had a history of eating disorders and a history of disorders and a history of disorders and a history of >> looking at the the mirror too much or >> looking at the the mirror too much or >> looking at the the mirror too much or watching the scale, I would have her watching the scale, I would have her watching the scale, I would have her powerlift. And it was a great way to powerlift. And it was a great way to powerlift. And it was a great way to kind of move her out of that and into kind of move her out of that and into kind of move her out of that and into something that's so performance-based something that's so performance-based something that's so performance-based that often times was the road uh to that often times was the road uh to that often times was the road uh to healing. Um, it's obviously great at healing. Um, it's obviously great at healing. Um, it's obviously great at making you really, really strong. And making you really, really strong. And making you really, really strong. And I'll say this, powerlifting, real I'll say this, powerlifting, real I'll say this, powerlifting, real powerlifting, powerlifting, powerlifting, >> uh has a great community. Uh out of all >> uh has a great community. Uh out of all >> uh has a great community. Uh out of all the strength training communities, it's the strength training communities, it's the strength training communities, it's the best. the best. the best. >> Very supportive. Yeah. >> Very supportive. Yeah. >> Very supportive. Yeah. >> It's the best community, you guys. Like >> It's the best community, you guys. Like >> It's the best community, you guys. Like like and I I'll give an example. If my like and I I'll give an example. If my like and I I'll give an example. If my daughter I have a 16-year-old daughter daughter I have a 16-year-old daughter daughter I have a 16-year-old daughter and she's starting to get into working and she's starting to get into working and she's starting to get into working out. And if she gets really serious out. And if she gets really serious out. And if she gets really serious about working out, I'm going to about working out, I'm going to about working out, I'm going to encourage her to join a powerlifting encourage her to join a powerlifting encourage her to join a powerlifting gym. that's the best culture she could gym. that's the best culture she could gym. that's the best culture she could be a part of if she's going to get be a part of if she's going to get be a part of if she's going to get really into strength training in terms really into strength training in terms really into strength training in terms of supportedness in terms of you know of supportedness in terms of you know of supportedness in terms of you know not pushing her towards body dysmorphia not pushing her towards body dysmorphia not pushing her towards body dysmorphia eating appropriately all that stuff. eating appropriately all that stuff. eating appropriately all that stuff. downside it's uh it's very very downside it's uh it's very very downside it's uh it's very very >> high risk >> high risk >> high risk >> high risk uh from strength training >> high risk uh from strength training >> high risk uh from strength training standpoint and the movements are limited standpoint and the movements are limited standpoint and the movements are limited and you can create mobility issues and and you can create mobility issues and and you can create mobility issues and injury injury injury >> not a lot of longevity to it but >> not a lot of longevity to it but >> not a lot of longevity to it but >> yeah at the same time the simplicity of >> yeah at the same time the simplicity of >> yeah at the same time the simplicity of it uh I think is also a huge bonus um to it uh I think is also a huge bonus um to it uh I think is also a huge bonus um to where you get a lot you can get a lot where you get a lot you can get a lot where you get a lot you can get a lot accomplished in terms of strength and accomplished in terms of strength and accomplished in terms of strength and even overall physique you know depending even overall physique you know depending even overall physique you know depending on how you're eating um just by on how you're eating um just by on how you're eating um just by powerlifting alone it's just like, you powerlifting alone it's just like, you powerlifting alone it's just like, you know, a few movements that you could know, a few movements that you could know, a few movements that you could just focus on, master. And again, it's just focus on, master. And again, it's just focus on, master. And again, it's one of those things that you keep one of those things that you keep one of those things that you keep chipping away at. You're never going to chipping away at. You're never going to chipping away at. You're never going to get uh to the point where you feel like get uh to the point where you feel like get uh to the point where you feel like you you have it all figured out. There's you you have it all figured out. There's you you have it all figured out. There's always something to learn uh from these always something to learn uh from these always something to learn uh from these few movements. Um but yeah, there are few movements. Um but yeah, there are few movements. Um but yeah, there are some some downsides, too. some some downsides, too. some some downsides, too. >> Yeah, the the pro for me is it's the >> Yeah, the the pro for me is it's the >> Yeah, the the pro for me is it's the it's the ultimate foundation. If your it's the ultimate foundation. If your it's the ultimate foundation. If your body is a house that you're building uh body is a house that you're building uh body is a house that you're building uh over the these decades, uh it's the over the these decades, uh it's the over the these decades, uh it's the ultimate way to lay the most solid ultimate way to lay the most solid ultimate way to lay the most solid foundation. You build a great to your foundation. You build a great to your foundation. You build a great to your point of sending your daughter there, a point of sending your daughter there, a point of sending your daughter there, a great powerlifting foundation, then all great powerlifting foundation, then all great powerlifting foundation, then all the other stuff goes up relatively easy the other stuff goes up relatively easy the other stuff goes up relatively easy in comparison. Um and so I think that is in comparison. Um and so I think that is in comparison. Um and so I think that is the con is that like building a house, the con is that like building a house, the con is that like building a house, it's just the foundation. There's it's just the foundation. There's it's just the foundation. There's there's no framing, there's no roof, there's no framing, there's no roof, there's no framing, there's no roof, there's so there's so many other things there's so there's so many other things there's so there's so many other things missing uh that would make a complete missing uh that would make a complete missing uh that would make a complete home, but it's the ultimate foundation, home, but it's the ultimate foundation, home, but it's the ultimate foundation, but it's not a complete home. A complete but it's not a complete home. A complete but it's not a complete home. A complete home, there's unilateral work, there's home, there's unilateral work, there's home, there's unilateral work, there's rotational work, there's, you know, rotational work, there's, you know, rotational work, there's, you know, joint longevity type stuff really long. joint longevity type stuff really long. joint longevity type stuff really long. There's endurance and yeah, [laughter] There's endurance and yeah, [laughter] >> that's a good analogy. Totally. >> that's a good analogy. Totally. >> No, it is. It's just that's what it's >> No, it is. It's just that's what it's >> No, it is. It's just that's what it's it's uh that's where it lacks. it lacks it's uh that's where it lacks. it lacks it's uh that's where it lacks. it lacks and uh but you can do this for at least and uh but you can do this for at least and uh but you can do this for at least the first 3 five years of your lifting the first 3 five years of your lifting the first 3 five years of your lifting and and get to your point and then move and and get to your point and then move and and get to your point and then move >> yeah get such a great physique from it >> yeah get such a great physique from it >> yeah get such a great physique from it get incredible strength get incredible strength get incredible strength >> that's what I like about it that's why I >> that's what I like about it that's why I >> that's what I like about it that's why I use my daughter as an example because if use my daughter as an example because if use my daughter as an example because if if her first few [clears throat] years if her first few [clears throat] years if her first few [clears throat] years of really dedicated strength training of really dedicated strength training of really dedicated strength training were in powerlifting I think she would were in powerlifting I think she would were in powerlifting I think she would have a really good uh place to start have a really good uh place to start have a really good uh place to start from good mental state from good mental state from good mental state >> good understanding of the basics >> good understanding of the basics >> good understanding of the basics >> strength uh you know cuz starting in >> strength uh you know cuz starting in >> strength uh you know cuz starting in something that's so body focused something that's so body focused something that's so body focused might not be the place the the place to might not be the place the the place to might not be the place the the place to start. start. start. >> You can branch off almost anywhere after >> You can branch off almost anywhere after >> You can branch off almost anywhere after power. power. power. >> Lastly, we have hybrid training. So, >> Lastly, we have hybrid training. So, >> Lastly, we have hybrid training. So, this is hybrid training is really just a this is hybrid training is really just a this is hybrid training is really just a term that means, you know, I'm training term that means, you know, I'm training term that means, you know, I'm training for stamina, endurance, for stamina, endurance, for stamina, endurance, >> means you were a failed athlete, so you >> means you were a failed athlete, so you >> means you were a failed athlete, so you did this. [laughter] did this. [laughter] did this. [laughter] >> Well, hey, here's the pros. >> Well, hey, here's the pros. >> Well, hey, here's the pros. >> Just fine. >> Just fine. >> Just fine. >> Here's the pros. Listen, >> Here's the pros. Listen, >> Here's the pros. Listen, >> I don't disagree. >> I don't disagree. >> I don't disagree. >> That's not a bad That's not a bad >> That's not a bad That's not a bad >> That's not a bad That's not a bad analogy because other people just place analogy because other people just place analogy because other people just place >> Hey, T. It takes one to no one. You know >> Hey, T. It takes one to no one. You know >> Hey, T. It takes one to no one. You know what I'm saying? So like this I I when I what I'm saying? So like this I I when I what I'm saying? So like this I I when I see this stuff I go like if it was if see this stuff I go like if it was if see this stuff I go like if it was if this was popular in my 20s this would this was popular in my 20s this would this was popular in my 20s this would have been me. You know what I'm saying? have been me. You know what I'm saying? have been me. You know what I'm saying? Just let's be honest like I was mediocre Just let's be honest like I was mediocre Just let's be honest like I was mediocre at everything and so I'd be really good. at everything and so I'd be really good. at everything and so I'd be really good. >> It is listen if you do it properly >> It is listen if you do it properly >> It is listen if you do it properly >> if you train it properly and >> if you train it properly and >> if you train it properly and appropriately with the goal of building appropriately with the goal of building appropriately with the goal of building stamina, endurance, agility, strength. stamina, endurance, agility, strength. stamina, endurance, agility, strength. It's the most balanced of all the forms It's the most balanced of all the forms It's the most balanced of all the forms of exercise. of exercise. of exercise. >> Yeah. But the problem is it's not >> Yeah. But the problem is it's not >> Yeah. But the problem is it's not though. This is uh this is CrossFit though. This is uh this is CrossFit though. This is uh this is CrossFit Light. This is uh so what comes to mind Light. This is uh so what comes to mind Light. This is uh so what comes to mind is High Rocks and what's the other is High Rocks and what's the other is High Rocks and what's the other company that's really popular right now company that's really popular right now company that's really popular right now that are that that train it and it's that are that that train it and it's that are that that train it and it's literally CrossFit Life. literally CrossFit Life. literally CrossFit Life. >> Oh no, you'd have to do this right. I'm >> Oh no, you'd have to do this right. I'm >> Oh no, you'd have to do this right. I'm glad you said that. I'm not talking glad you said that. I'm not talking glad you said that. I'm not talking about High Rocks. I'm not talking about about High Rocks. I'm not talking about about High Rocks. I'm not talking about CrossFit. CrossFit. CrossFit. >> But we have to we have to explain that >> But we have to we have to explain that >> But we have to we have to explain that because it's that that that's all because it's that that that's all because it's that that that's all marketed as the hybrid athlete. That's marketed as the hybrid athlete. That's marketed as the hybrid athlete. That's what the high rocks and all that stuff. what the high rocks and all that stuff. what the high rocks and all that stuff. >> That's a brand. The hybrid training >> That's a brand. The hybrid training >> That's a brand. The hybrid training really looks like this. It looks like uh really looks like this. It looks like uh really looks like this. It looks like uh I do a little strength training. I do I do a little strength training. I do I do a little strength training. I do some endurance work. I do some agility some endurance work. I do some agility some endurance work. I do some agility work. work. work. >> Um and I balance it out. Um, and it's >> Um and I balance it out. Um, and it's >> Um and I balance it out. Um, and it's balanced out based on my preferences and balanced out based on my preferences and balanced out based on my preferences and the my ability to recover and adapt. So, the my ability to recover and adapt. So, the my ability to recover and adapt. So, where people make a mistake. Here's the where people make a mistake. Here's the where people make a mistake. Here's the the downside of hybrid training is it's the downside of hybrid training is it's the downside of hybrid training is it's this this is overtraining central right this this is overtraining central right this this is overtraining central right here. here. here. >> Very easy to overtrain because you want >> Very easy to overtrain because you want >> Very easy to overtrain because you want to do everything all the time. to do everything all the time. to do everything all the time. >> That's what it's turned into. It has >> That's what it's turned into. It has >> That's what it's turned into. It has turned into nobody I shouldn't say turned into nobody I shouldn't say turned into nobody I shouldn't say nobody. It's an overgeneralization. Very nobody. It's an overgeneralization. Very nobody. It's an overgeneralization. Very few people few people few people >> are programming it the way you're >> are programming it the way you're >> are programming it the way you're talking about right now where I I'm talking about right now where I I'm talking about right now where I I'm running phasing it in. running phasing it in. running phasing it in. >> Yeah. I'm running through a phase of >> Yeah. I'm running through a phase of >> Yeah. I'm running through a phase of endurance training, then I'm doing all endurance training, then I'm doing all endurance training, then I'm doing all this strength phase. That's the way to this strength phase. That's the way to this strength phase. That's the way to do it. Yeah. No one's doing that. It's a do it. Yeah. No one's doing that. It's a do it. Yeah. No one's doing that. It's a It looks like CrossFit everything all It looks like CrossFit everything all It looks like CrossFit everything all the time. the time. the time. >> It looks like CrossFit without some of >> It looks like CrossFit without some of >> It looks like CrossFit without some of the dangerous movements. the dangerous movements. the dangerous movements. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> Well, that's what annoys me. I I love >> Well, that's what annoys me. I I love >> Well, that's what annoys me. I I love the concept of it, but I just don't see the concept of it, but I just don't see the concept of it, but I just don't see the application that people or the the application that people or the the application that people or the approach people are taking towards it uh approach people are taking towards it uh approach people are taking towards it uh being that valid. Like whereas you could being that valid. Like whereas you could being that valid. Like whereas you could structure it in a way where you could structure it in a way where you could structure it in a way where you could gain a lot of those benefits, which is gain a lot of those benefits, which is gain a lot of those benefits, which is I'm always pursuing that. You know, I I'm always pursuing that. You know, I I'm always pursuing that. You know, I want to be strong and have that, you want to be strong and have that, you want to be strong and have that, you know, uh as a main focus. And then I know, uh as a main focus. And then I know, uh as a main focus. And then I want to like work on making sure I can want to like work on making sure I can want to like work on making sure I can still move fast and have, you know, still move fast and have, you know, still move fast and have, you know, athletic abilities, but then I'm going athletic abilities, but then I'm going athletic abilities, but then I'm going to come back and and and work on my to come back and and and work on my to come back and and and work on my strength or or now I have pain and I got strength or or now I have pain and I got strength or or now I have pain and I got to kind of address this. to kind of address this. to kind of address this. >> Honestly, the best approach to this, now >> Honestly, the best approach to this, now >> Honestly, the best approach to this, now that I think about it, and you you could that I think about it, and you you could that I think about it, and you you could definitely structure your programming definitely structure your programming definitely structure your programming and be real smart about it, but most and be real smart about it, but most and be real smart about it, but most people don't have that ability. They people don't have that ability. They people don't have that ability. They don't know what that looks like. They don't know what that looks like. They don't know what that looks like. They have a tough time gauging what's enough. have a tough time gauging what's enough. have a tough time gauging what's enough. They tend to do what they can tolerate. They tend to do what they can tolerate. They tend to do what they can tolerate. But honestly, uh, the best approach in But honestly, uh, the best approach in But honestly, uh, the best approach in my opinion is do what's what you enjoy my opinion is do what's what you enjoy my opinion is do what's what you enjoy and have fun doing it. I think if you and have fun doing it. I think if you and have fun doing it. I think if you have fun doing it, you'll probably have fun doing it, you'll probably have fun doing it, you'll probably balance things out much more. In other balance things out much more. In other balance things out much more. In other words, like, yeah, I'm going to have words, like, yeah, I'm going to have words, like, yeah, I'm going to have some fun. I'm going to lift some weights some fun. I'm going to lift some weights some fun. I'm going to lift some weights today, so I'm going to do four lifts. today, so I'm going to do four lifts. today, so I'm going to do four lifts. And then what else do I want to do? I And then what else do I want to do? I And then what else do I want to do? I want to go hiking. I think I'm going to want to go hiking. I think I'm going to want to go hiking. I think I'm going to do a swim. I think I'm going to do a do a swim. I think I'm going to do a do a swim. I think I'm going to do a run. I'm going to try a little, you run. I'm going to try a little, you run. I'm going to try a little, you know, pio, you know, uh, plyometrics know, pio, you know, uh, plyometrics know, pio, you know, uh, plyometrics training. And then I'm going to go back training. And then I'm going to go back training. And then I'm going to go back to a lift. And just doing and enjoying to a lift. And just doing and enjoying to a lift. And just doing and enjoying movement. I've known a couple people movement. I've known a couple people movement. I've known a couple people like this. I've known a couple people like this. I've known a couple people like this. I've known a couple people like this where they love to be active. like this where they love to be active. like this where they love to be active. This is a young man's game This is a young man's game This is a young man's game >> where they do. >> where they do. >> where they do. >> I'm [laughter] going to be honest like >> I'm [laughter] going to be honest like >> I'm [laughter] going to be honest like this for me I've actually gone back and this for me I've actually gone back and this for me I've actually gone back and forth with like you know incorporating forth with like you know incorporating forth with like you know incorporating these things in the train. I just keep these things in the train. I just keep these things in the train. I just keep it strength training and then I do like it strength training and then I do like it strength training and then I do like recreational activities outside of recreational activities outside of recreational activities outside of training. Yeah. training. Yeah. training. Yeah. >> Like that's the move. That's also that's >> Like that's the move. That's also that's >> Like that's the move. That's also that's also in like this that you that feeds also in like this that you that feeds also in like this that you that feeds right into what I always talk about right into what I always talk about right into what I always talk about which is I'm always trying to do the as which is I'm always trying to do the as which is I'm always trying to do the as little as possible to elicit the most little as possible to elicit the most little as possible to elicit the most change. Right. So you're doing the bare change. Right. So you're doing the bare change. Right. So you're doing the bare minimum to get a little bit of minimum to get a little bit of minimum to get a little bit of everything you want. I'm gonna be my everything you want. I'm gonna be my everything you want. I'm gonna be my foundation is strength training, which foundation is strength training, which foundation is strength training, which that's the core of your thing. I'm gonna that's the core of your thing. I'm gonna that's the core of your thing. I'm gonna go out and do physical activities when I go out and do physical activities when I go out and do physical activities when I can with my kids. And so I'm gonna be an can with my kids. And so I'm gonna be an can with my kids. And so I'm gonna be an active f like that makes a lot of sense active f like that makes a lot of sense active f like that makes a lot of sense to me. Doing it the way it's being done to me. Doing it the way it's being done to me. Doing it the way it's being done here is like it's so much training here is like it's so much training here is like it's so much training volume that this is only going to be a volume that this is only going to be a volume that this is only going to be a period of your life that you're going to period of your life that you're going to period of your life that you're going to do this. That's what I mean by this do this. That's what I mean by this do this. That's what I mean by this young man's game. This is like these are young man's game. This is like these are young man's game. This is like these are guys are the training five days a week. guys are the training five days a week. guys are the training five days a week. They're doing it all at one. They're They're doing it all at one. They're They're doing it all at one. They're doing it all the time. They love to work doing it all the time. They love to work doing it all the time. They love to work out. I would say they're good at working out. I would say they're good at working out. I would say they're good at working out. out. out. >> If you want to do it long term, you're >> If you want to do it long term, you're >> If you want to do it long term, you're probably working out three days a week. probably working out three days a week. probably working out three days a week. That's it. Honestly, you're probably do That's it. Honestly, you're probably do That's it. Honestly, you're probably do three days a week is what your workout three days a week is what your workout three days a week is what your workout looks like for hybrid training. Unless looks like for hybrid training. Unless looks like for hybrid training. Unless you're alternating phases, you're alternating phases, you're alternating phases, >> like you said, Adam. Yeah. >> like you said, Adam. Yeah. >> like you said, Adam. Yeah. >> Otherwise, you're going to overdo it. >> Otherwise, you're going to overdo it. >> Otherwise, you're going to overdo it. That's the con here is this is like the That's the con here is this is like the That's the con here is this is like the most common place. most common place. most common place. >> Easy to overdo >> Easy to overdo >> Easy to overdo >> that everybody. >> that everybody. >> that everybody. >> Easy easy to overdo and most complex to >> Easy easy to overdo and most complex to >> Easy easy to overdo and most complex to program. program. program. >> Yeah. Is >> Yeah. Is >> Yeah. Is >> by far. >> by far. >> by far. >> You got to really know how to exercise. >> You got to really know how to exercise. >> You got to really know how to exercise. >> Yes. The rest of them are all [ __ ] >> Yes. The rest of them are all [ __ ] >> Yes. The rest of them are all [ __ ] straightforward. It's like real basic straightforward. It's like real basic straightforward. It's like real basic goal. Go get strong. Go do yoga. Go do goal. Go get strong. Go do yoga. Go do goal. Go get strong. Go do yoga. Go do It's like very like work on the mus work It's like very like work on the mus work It's like very like work on the mus work on your shoulders. It's like all the on your shoulders. It's like all the on your shoulders. It's like all the rest hybrid is like rest hybrid is like rest hybrid is like >> is like all over the place. >> is like all over the place. >> is like all over the place. >> All over the place and and you are >> All over the place and and you are >> All over the place and and you are trying to get good at all of it. And trying to get good at all of it. And trying to get good at all of it. And what it what it equals out the jab. I what it what it equals out the jab. I what it what it equals out the jab. I was making up myself and everybody that was making up myself and everybody that was making up myself and everybody that does it is it's like you're just does it is it's like you're just does it is it's like you're just mediocre at everything. [laughter] No h mediocre at everything. [laughter] No h mediocre at everything. [laughter] No h no hybrid athlete army no hybrid athlete no hybrid athlete army no hybrid athlete no hybrid athlete army no hybrid athlete is winning a marathon. No hybrid athlete is winning a marathon. No hybrid athlete is winning a marathon. No hybrid athlete is winning a powerlifting competition. is winning a powerlifting competition. is winning a powerlifting competition. No hybrid athlete is getting on stage No hybrid athlete is getting on stage No hybrid athlete is getting on stage and winning a bodybuild. Like you're and winning a bodybuild. Like you're and winning a bodybuild. Like you're just mediocre at everything. just mediocre at everything. just mediocre at everything. >> But you're overall healthy and fit. >> But you're overall healthy and fit. >> But you're overall healthy and fit. That's the goal. That's the goal. That's the goal. >> Yes. And and then I think that but the >> Yes. And and then I think that but the >> Yes. And and then I think that but the approach that it's being programmed is approach that it's being programmed is approach that it's being programmed is just the amount that you have to apply just the amount that you have to apply just the amount that you have to apply to call yourself this this hybrid to call yourself this this hybrid to call yourself this this hybrid athlete is just it's it's too much. And athlete is just it's it's too much. And athlete is just it's it's too much. And if you wanted that I I would have an if you wanted that I I would have an if you wanted that I I would have an approach much more like Justin where I approach much more like Justin where I approach much more like Justin where I know what the the the core foundation know what the the the core foundation know what the the the core foundation where I get the biggest bang for my buck where I get the biggest bang for my buck where I get the biggest bang for my buck aesthetically, metabolically, health, aesthetically, metabolically, health, aesthetically, metabolically, health, joint, all the things. That's going to joint, all the things. That's going to joint, all the things. That's going to be the core. And then, hey, if I want be the core. And then, hey, if I want be the core. And then, hey, if I want to, you know, not lose the skill of to, you know, not lose the skill of to, you know, not lose the skill of throwing a ball, I'm going to throw a throwing a ball, I'm going to throw a throwing a ball, I'm going to throw a ball with my kid every day. If I don't ball with my kid every day. If I don't ball with my kid every day. If I don't want to lose the skill of rowing a want to lose the skill of rowing a want to lose the skill of rowing a canoe, I'm going to get in there. I'm canoe, I'm going to get in there. I'm canoe, I'm going to get in there. I'm going to row every once in a while. going to row every once in a while. going to row every once in a while. Like, I'm just going to do it and not Like, I'm just going to do it and not Like, I'm just going to do it and not lose that skill and keep it up. I lose that skill and keep it up. I lose that skill and keep it up. I >> say row a canoe. [laughter] >> A canoe. >> A canoe. >> It's good. It's a good reference. I love >> It's good. It's a good reference. I love >> It's good. It's a good reference. I love it. it. it. >> It was pulled that one out. [laughter] >> It was pulled that one out. [laughter] >> It was pulled that one out. [laughter] >> I just I just looked up some studies on >> I just I just looked up some studies on >> I just I just looked up some studies on meal prepping. You guys You guys know meal prepping. You guys You guys know meal prepping. You guys You guys know that meal This it's so simple. It's so that meal This it's so simple. It's so that meal This it's so simple. It's so dumb, too. When I say this, I'm like, dumb, too. When I say this, I'm like, dumb, too. When I say this, I'm like, "Duh." because this is something I do "Duh." because this is something I do "Duh." because this is something I do with my clients. Meal prepping, just with my clients. Meal prepping, just with my clients. Meal prepping, just preparing your meals, uh, according to preparing your meals, uh, according to preparing your meals, uh, according to the data is one of the most effective the data is one of the most effective the data is one of the most effective strategies for consistent weight loss or strategies for consistent weight loss or strategies for consistent weight loss or fat loss. Just prepping alone, just fat loss. Just prepping alone, just fat loss. Just prepping alone, just planning, planning, planning, >> making sure you have your meals, >> making sure you have your meals, >> making sure you have your meals, >> intentionally think about it. I will >> intentionally think about it. I will >> intentionally think about it. I will take it a step even easier, further to take it a step even easier, further to take it a step even easier, further to get to encourage someone to go that way. get to encourage someone to go that way. get to encourage someone to go that way. You don't even need to have all of them You don't even need to have all of them You don't even need to have all of them prepared. If you just have uh like your prepared. If you just have uh like your prepared. If you just have uh like your anchor or core meals prepared, that will anchor or core meals prepared, that will anchor or core meals prepared, that will is makes you tremendously successful. is makes you tremendously successful. is makes you tremendously successful. Like it like because I think sometimes Like it like because I think sometimes Like it like because I think sometimes people hear meal prepping and it's like people hear meal prepping and it's like people hear meal prepping and it's like I don't think that's shocking to I don't think that's shocking to I don't think that's shocking to anybody. If you made all your meals from anybody. If you made all your meals from anybody. If you made all your meals from whole food, you'd be successful in your whole food, you'd be successful in your whole food, you'd be successful in your diet. diet. diet. >> But that sounds like a lot to go like, >> But that sounds like a lot to go like, >> But that sounds like a lot to go like, "Oh my god, that's a lot of meals I got "Oh my god, that's a lot of meals I got "Oh my god, that's a lot of meals I got to make in the entire week." And it just to make in the entire week." And it just to make in the entire week." And it just Yeah. It's like, no, if you just have Yeah. It's like, no, if you just have Yeah. It's like, no, if you just have your staple core meals, like one or two your staple core meals, like one or two your staple core meals, like one or two of them that you you that you can go to of them that you you that you can go to of them that you you that you can go to that are that are made for the day, you that are that are made for the day, you that are that are made for the day, you would be surprised how successful you'd would be surprised how successful you'd would be surprised how successful you'd be just from that. be just from that. be just from that. >> Well, as I think about it, it handles so >> Well, as I think about it, it handles so >> Well, as I think about it, it handles so many things. Number one, it actually many things. Number one, it actually many things. Number one, it actually saves money. Meal prepping does save saves money. Meal prepping does save saves money. Meal prepping does save money. money. money. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh number two, it's typic you're whole >> Uh number two, it's typic you're whole >> Uh number two, it's typic you're whole food. You're now eating a whole food. You're now eating a whole food. You're now eating a whole foodbased diet. We've talked about that foodbased diet. We've talked about that foodbased diet. We've talked about that many times on the show. many times on the show. many times on the show. >> Yeah. on how processed foods uh they >> Yeah. on how processed foods uh they >> Yeah. on how processed foods uh they don't do a good job of producing don't do a good job of producing don't do a good job of producing satiety. So, you tend to uh overeat satiety. So, you tend to uh overeat satiety. So, you tend to uh overeat them. Um you tend to hit protein targets them. Um you tend to hit protein targets them. Um you tend to hit protein targets because you're you're putting that in because you're you're putting that in because you're you're putting that in your food. You know what it is and you your food. You know what it is and you your food. You know what it is and you tend to not skip meals. This is a tend to not skip meals. This is a tend to not skip meals. This is a problem. So, when people don't meal problem. So, when people don't meal problem. So, when people don't meal prep, they tend to skip meals and then prep, they tend to skip meals and then prep, they tend to skip meals and then when they skip a meal, they get real when they skip a meal, they get real when they skip a meal, they get real hungry and then they overdo it when they hungry and then they overdo it when they hungry and then they overdo it when they finally order something. finally order something. finally order something. >> That's right. So meal prepping is just a >> That's right. So meal prepping is just a >> That's right. So meal prepping is just a very simple, I guess, straightforward very simple, I guess, straightforward very simple, I guess, straightforward strategy. And the data shows a strategy. And the data shows a strategy. And the data shows a significant difference between those who significant difference between those who significant difference between those who meal prep and those who don't and the meal prep and those who don't and the meal prep and those who don't and the amount of weight that they lose. People amount of weight that they lose. People amount of weight that they lose. People lose a lot more weight when they meal lose a lot more weight when they meal lose a lot more weight when they meal prep. And then when people continue to prep. And then when people continue to prep. And then when people continue to meal prep, the odds that they're able to meal prep, the odds that they're able to meal prep, the odds that they're able to keep the weight off uh make a big keep the weight off uh make a big keep the weight off uh make a big difference. difference. difference. >> I would think this would be on the rise >> I would think this would be on the rise >> I would think this would be on the rise right now with uh I saw some stat on right now with uh I saw some stat on right now with uh I saw some stat on like the average meal ate out is like up like the average meal ate out is like up like the average meal ate out is like up to like $27. to like $27. to like $27. >> So expensive. It's yeah, if you're a >> So expensive. It's yeah, if you're a >> So expensive. It's yeah, if you're a young person trying to save and get young person trying to save and get young person trying to save and get ahead in life, eating out ahead in life, eating out ahead in life, eating out is so crazy expensive. I think is so crazy expensive. I think is so crazy expensive. I think >> what's a good strategy for people >> what's a good strategy for people >> what's a good strategy for people because I'd say the prep the meal because I'd say the prep the meal because I'd say the prep the meal prepping typically look it says there prepping typically look it says there prepping typically look it says there $15 to $25 for casual lunches. Sit down $15 to $25 for casual lunches. Sit down $15 to $25 for casual lunches. Sit down 35 to 35 to 35 to >> Yeah, that's like if you go But let's >> Yeah, that's like if you go But let's >> Yeah, that's like if you go But let's Who's doing that? What's What percentage Who's doing that? What's What percentage Who's doing that? What's What percentage are door dashing? are door dashing? are door dashing? >> Even more. So, if you take that exact >> Even more. So, if you take that exact >> Even more. So, if you take that exact same number and you you tap you tap in same number and you you tap you tap in same number and you you tap you tap in the or the tag uh add the um Door Dash the or the tag uh add the um Door Dash the or the tag uh add the um Door Dash fee, you're up to 30 something bucks per fee, you're up to 30 something bucks per fee, you're up to 30 something bucks per meal. meal. meal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> 37 to $40 a day. >> 37 to $40 a day. >> 37 to $40 a day. >> Yeah. And so, you would think that I >> Yeah. And so, you would think that I >> Yeah. And so, you would think that I mean, hey, let complete honesty that mean, hey, let complete honesty that mean, hey, let complete honesty that that was a huge motivation for me that was a huge motivation for me that was a huge motivation for me recently was I like uh you know, recently was I like uh you know, recently was I like uh you know, regardless if I can afford it or not, regardless if I can afford it or not, regardless if I can afford it or not, I'm like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, this is ridiculous. >> Well, you know, it's a good strategy I >> Well, you know, it's a good strategy I >> Well, you know, it's a good strategy I was thinking about. So, we work with was thinking about. So, we work with was thinking about. So, we work with ButcherBox, uh, and we've been with them ButcherBox, uh, and we've been with them ButcherBox, uh, and we've been with them for years. And ButcherBox, for people for years. And ButcherBox, for people for years. And ButcherBox, for people aren't familiar, they they they deliver aren't familiar, they they they deliver aren't familiar, they they they deliver to your door every month, a box of your to your door every month, a box of your to your door every month, a box of your favorite meats. So, it's grass-fed favorite meats. So, it's grass-fed favorite meats. So, it's grass-fed meats, steaks, ground beef, chicken, meats, steaks, ground beef, chicken, meats, steaks, ground beef, chicken, pork, wild caught fish. It's basically pork, wild caught fish. It's basically pork, wild caught fish. It's basically proteins. Okay? They have more than proteins. Okay? They have more than proteins. Okay? They have more than that, but their main thing is you order that, but their main thing is you order that, but their main thing is you order your box of proteins. And this is so your box of proteins. And this is so your box of proteins. And this is so valuable for meal prepping because I valuable for meal prepping because I valuable for meal prepping because I would say the most difficult thing to would say the most difficult thing to would say the most difficult thing to organize when meal prepping is the organize when meal prepping is the organize when meal prepping is the protein. Mhm. protein. Mhm. protein. Mhm. >> Like rice, cake, that's a piece of cake. >> Like rice, cake, that's a piece of cake. >> Like rice, cake, that's a piece of cake. I can just bunch of rice done. Potato I can just bunch of rice done. Potato I can just bunch of rice done. Potato easy, vegetables, easy. It's the easy, vegetables, easy. It's the easy, vegetables, easy. It's the proteins. And instead of going to the proteins. And instead of going to the proteins. And instead of going to the grocery store and buy whatever, you get grocery store and buy whatever, you get grocery store and buy whatever, you get your box and now you're ready to go. your box and now you're ready to go. your box and now you're ready to go. You've got all your proteins, meal prep You've got all your proteins, meal prep You've got all your proteins, meal prep for the the whole week or whatever, half for the the whole week or whatever, half for the the whole week or whatever, half the week, maybe do it twice a week, and the week, maybe do it twice a week, and the week, maybe do it twice a week, and you're totally set. That's you're totally set. That's you're totally set. That's >> last night. I mean, I po I've been >> last night. I mean, I po I've been >> last night. I mean, I po I've been posting on my stories. I know you're not posting on my stories. I know you're not posting on my stories. I know you're not on there. you rarely are on there or on there. you rarely are on there or on there. you rarely are on there or what like that, but three lbs of butcher what like that, but three lbs of butcher what like that, but three lbs of butcher box ground beef, mushrooms, onions, and box ground beef, mushrooms, onions, and box ground beef, mushrooms, onions, and you know, three cups of white rice, and you know, three cups of white rice, and you know, three cups of white rice, and then that's what preps my first three then that's what preps my first three then that's what preps my first three first three days of the week. first three days of the week. first three days of the week. >> I'm eating that. And those are just my >> I'm eating that. And those are just my >> I'm eating that. And those are just my anchor meals. Like I said, I'm I'm doing anchor meals. Like I said, I'm I'm doing anchor meals. Like I said, I'm I'm doing that one to two times a day, uh, every that one to two times a day, uh, every that one to two times a day, uh, every day, and then figure out the dinner and day, and then figure out the dinner and day, and then figure out the dinner and the stuff in between the stuff in between the stuff in between >> and that's enough to keep me in in check >> and that's enough to keep me in in check >> and that's enough to keep me in in check as far as my macros. Yeah. I will say as far as my macros. Yeah. I will say as far as my macros. Yeah. I will say though, last night, yeah. Hey, trivia though, last night, yeah. Hey, trivia though, last night, yeah. Hey, trivia for you guys. How many nuggets come in for you guys. How many nuggets come in for you guys. How many nuggets come in the butcher box nuggets bag? the butcher box nuggets bag? the butcher box nuggets bag? >> You mean the gluten-free nuggets? >> You mean the gluten-free nuggets? >> You mean the gluten-free nuggets? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I'll make you guess 25. >> I'll make you guess 25. >> I'll make you guess 25. >> No, more than that. >> No, more than that. >> No, more than that. >> Right on. >> Right on. >> Right on. >> Exactly 25. >> Exactly 25. >> Exactly 25. >> What? Wow. >> What? Wow. >> What? Wow. >> You know how I know that? >> You know how I know that? >> You know how I know that? >> Cuz you made a count because [laughter] >> Cuz you made a count because [laughter] >> Cuz you made a count because [laughter] my my son eats five and I eat the other my my son eats five and I eat the other my my son eats five and I eat the other 20. 20. 20. >> I was going to say that's >> I was going to say that's >> I was going to say that's a pile of nuggets. a pile of nuggets. a pile of nuggets. >> You know how Yeah, I know. I have to >> You know how Yeah, I know. I have to >> You know how Yeah, I know. I have to have a plate just for the nuggets. And have a plate just for the nuggets. And have a plate just for the nuggets. And so, uh, how you how I got there? Yeah, I so, uh, how you how I got there? Yeah, I so, uh, how you how I got there? Yeah, I do. I'm barbecue sauce guy. Uh um I the do. I'm barbecue sauce guy. Uh um I the do. I'm barbecue sauce guy. Uh um I the way I got there was, you know, I would way I got there was, you know, I would way I got there was, you know, I would only do like 12 or 15 sometimes and then only do like 12 or 15 sometimes and then only do like 12 or 15 sometimes and then I started looking at the back. I'm like, I started looking at the back. I'm like, I started looking at the back. I'm like, that's pretty much my my son has his that's pretty much my my son has his that's pretty much my my son has his five and then I have 12. The whole thing five and then I have 12. The whole thing five and then I have 12. The whole thing and then like, oh, it lands perfectly at and then like, oh, it lands perfectly at and then like, oh, it lands perfectly at 20. So, gluten-free nuggets are the best 20. So, gluten-free nuggets are the best 20. So, gluten-free nuggets are the best ones ever. ones ever. ones ever. >> Oh, they're so good. >> Oh, they're so good. >> Oh, they're so good. >> They're the best ones ever had. >> They're the best ones ever had. >> They're the best ones ever had. >> They're so good. >> They're so good. >> They're so good. >> Nobody comes close. >> Nobody comes close. >> Nobody comes close. >> I told you that. >> I told you that. >> I told you that. >> I like them better than nuggets you get >> I like them better than nuggets you get >> I like them better than nuggets you get from a restaurant. They're the best. from a restaurant. They're the best. from a restaurant. They're the best. >> They are the best. They are. They are. >> They are the best. They are. They are. >> They are the best. They are. They are. >> What do they put in there? >> What do they put in there? >> What do they put in there? >> I It's I don't know. I think it is >> I It's I don't know. I think it is >> I It's I don't know. I think it is because they're gluten-free cuz they sit because they're gluten-free cuz they sit because they're gluten-free cuz they sit so well on it. so well on it. so well on it. >> Like a potato crust. Like what is that? >> Like a potato crust. Like what is that? >> Like a potato crust. Like what is that? >> That might be rice. Uh rice in the >> That might be rice. Uh rice in the >> That might be rice. Uh rice in the >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's what it is. What it is is that I >> that's what it is. What it is is that I >> that's what it is. What it is is that I could crush 20 of those and it sits could crush 20 of those and it sits could crush 20 of those and it sits okay. Like if I did that with other okay. Like if I did that with other okay. Like if I did that with other nuggets. nuggets. nuggets. >> Oh, I've done it with McDonald's chicken >> Oh, I've done it with McDonald's chicken >> Oh, I've done it with McDonald's chicken nuggets and it doesn't sit. [laughter] nuggets and it doesn't sit. [laughter] nuggets and it doesn't sit. [laughter] >> Hey, it feels so good, bro. >> Hey, it feels so good, bro. >> Hey, it feels so good, bro. >> Yeah. What kind of chicken is in there? >> Yeah. What kind of chicken is in there? >> Yeah. What kind of chicken is in there? >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> It was like a year ago. I remember after >> It was like a year ago. I remember after >> It was like a year ago. I remember after we had already we we first started we had already we we first started we had already we we first started talking about the Butcher Box nuggets a talking about the Butcher Box nuggets a talking about the Butcher Box nuggets a a long time ago, whenever it was, I had a long time ago, whenever it was, I had a long time ago, whenever it was, I had I went and I had McDonald's chicken I went and I had McDonald's chicken I went and I had McDonald's chicken nuggets just because I was curious. I nuggets just because I was curious. I nuggets just because I was curious. I was like cuz we're talking about how was like cuz we're talking about how was like cuz we're talking about how much we love them. I'm like, is that much we love them. I'm like, is that much we love them. I'm like, is that because maybe I haven't had nuggets in because maybe I haven't had nuggets in because maybe I haven't had nuggets in so long or is and I went and they were so long or is and I went and they were so long or is and I went and they were terrible. terrible. terrible. >> I had no idea. And my memory of >> I had no idea. And my memory of >> I had no idea. And my memory of McDonald's chicken nuggets as a kid was McDonald's chicken nuggets as a kid was McDonald's chicken nuggets as a kid was like amazing. That was like one of my like amazing. That was like one of my like amazing. That was like one of my favorite meals. favorite meals. favorite meals. >> You know what's weird about McDonald's >> You know what's weird about McDonald's >> You know what's weird about McDonald's cuz I've had McDonald's recently, cuz I've had McDonald's recently, cuz I've had McDonald's recently, relatively recently. It's not that good, relatively recently. It's not that good, relatively recently. It's not that good, but if you keep eating it, but if you keep eating it, but if you keep eating it, >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> somehow you want more of it. >> somehow you want more of it. >> somehow you want more of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You ever noticed that? >> You ever noticed that? >> You ever noticed that? >> It changes your palette. >> It changes your palette. >> It changes your palette. >> It's weird, dude. It's weird. It's like, >> It's weird, dude. It's weird. It's like, >> It's weird, dude. It's weird. It's like, it's not good. This is not as good as an it's not good. This is not as good as an it's not good. This is not as good as an In-N-Out Burger. Not as good, but then I In-N-Out Burger. Not as good, but then I In-N-Out Burger. Not as good, but then I keep eating it. keep eating it. keep eating it. >> I would communicate this to my clients. >> I would communicate this to my clients. >> I would communicate this to my clients. And I, you know, it was, it was never so And I, you know, it was, it was never so And I, you know, it was, it was never so like I was never so aware of it as much like I was never so aware of it as much like I was never so aware of it as much as I was when I had to get rid of as I was when I had to get rid of as I was when I had to get rid of everything when the competing thing was everything when the competing thing was everything when the competing thing was how much like if you could just how much like if you could just how much like if you could just discipline yourself to eliminate that discipline yourself to eliminate that discipline yourself to eliminate that for a period of time. for a period of time. for a period of time. >> Going back is is is it's easy to not go >> Going back is is is it's easy to not go >> Going back is is is it's easy to not go back because it doesn't taste good. Now, back because it doesn't taste good. Now, back because it doesn't taste good. Now, if you allow it to go in and you're if you allow it to go in and you're if you allow it to go in and you're like, "Oh, that was good. Let me try it like, "Oh, that was good. Let me try it like, "Oh, that was good. Let me try it again." again." again." >> Yeah. Your brain changes. >> Yeah. Your brain changes. >> Yeah. Your brain changes. >> Then you by about the third time is >> Then you by about the third time is >> Then you by about the third time is about what I have figured out. You crave about what I have figured out. You crave about what I have figured out. You crave it, want it, love it. It's back to that. it, want it, love it. It's back to that. it, want it, love it. It's back to that. >> Do you guys remember Superersiz Me, the >> Do you guys remember Superersiz Me, the >> Do you guys remember Superersiz Me, the documentary? That's what he said on documentary? That's what he said on documentary? That's what he said on there. Remember he went all McDonald's there. Remember he went all McDonald's there. Remember he went all McDonald's only diet and he said he didn't want it, only diet and he said he didn't want it, only diet and he said he didn't want it, but then suddenly he started craving it. but then suddenly he started craving it. but then suddenly he started craving it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What are they doing? >> What are they doing? >> What are they doing? >> What's in there? >> What's in there? >> What's in there? >> Well, no, all that. >> Well, no, all that. >> Well, no, all that. >> I mean, it's to the point you said that >> I mean, it's to the point you said that >> I mean, it's to the point you said that mean are the best scientists are fig the smell, the taste, the texture. the smell, the taste, the texture. >> Yeah. And initially you your brain >> Yeah. And initially you your brain >> Yeah. And initially you your brain recognizes the it's less quality. Do you recognizes the it's less quality. Do you recognizes the it's less quality. Do you know that that they have like uh they've know that that they have like uh they've know that that they have like uh they've designated like a certain percentage of designated like a certain percentage of designated like a certain percentage of their customers are I think called heavy their customers are I think called heavy their customers are I think called heavy users and they eat like [laughter] like users and they eat like [laughter] like users and they eat like [laughter] like McDonald's every single day. There's McDonald's every single day. There's McDonald's every single day. There's like a customer they have like a customer they have like a customer they have >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> that makes up so much of their revenue >> that makes up so much of their revenue >> that makes up so much of their revenue because it's they're just whale because it's they're just whale because it's they're just whale >> super super crazy >> super super crazy >> super super crazy >> uh consumers. That's why. >> uh consumers. That's why. >> uh consumers. That's why. >> Yeah. This is interesting. McDonald's is >> Yeah. This is interesting. McDonald's is >> Yeah. This is interesting. McDonald's is designed to be addictive using a designed to be addictive using a designed to be addictive using a mathematically formulated trifecta of mathematically formulated trifecta of mathematically formulated trifecta of fat, sugar, and salt. fat, sugar, and salt. fat, sugar, and salt. >> They call it the bliss point. Yeah, >> They call it the bliss point. Yeah, >> They call it the bliss point. Yeah, that's that's a there's a lot of science that's that's a there's a lot of science that's that's a there's a lot of science technology. technology. technology. >> It's not just McDonald's. >> It's not just McDonald's. >> It's not just McDonald's. >> Every every Yeah, they're all trying to >> Every every Yeah, they're all trying to >> Every every Yeah, they're all trying to >> uh utilize their their science. >> uh utilize their their science. >> uh utilize their their science. >> Do you just wait till AI >> Do you just wait till AI >> Do you just wait till AI >> I just think it's really crazy to your >> I just think it's really crazy to your >> I just think it's really crazy to your point though is like and if you've if point though is like and if you've if point though is like and if you've if you've ever stayed away from this stuff you've ever stayed away from this stuff you've ever stayed away from this stuff long enough and I mean I openly as a as long enough and I mean I openly as a as long enough and I mean I openly as a as even as a young trainer in my 20s used even as a young trainer in my 20s used even as a young trainer in my 20s used to eat fast food all the time. All the to eat fast food all the time. All the to eat fast food all the time. All the time. time. time. >> Um and it was like a regular thing >> Um and it was like a regular thing >> Um and it was like a regular thing always in my diet. Like I didn't go a always in my diet. Like I didn't go a always in my diet. Like I didn't go a week without it. It was every week. week without it. It was every week. week without it. It was every week. Yeah. Every week, probably almost every Yeah. Every week, probably almost every Yeah. Every week, probably almost every day. day. day. >> Same. I was always trying to get bigger, >> Same. I was always trying to get bigger, >> Same. I was always trying to get bigger, so I didn't care. so I didn't care. so I didn't care. >> Yeah. Same. I was always needing >> Yeah. Same. I was always needing >> Yeah. Same. I was always needing calories. And so that was my calories. And so that was my calories. And so that was my justification about it. And it wasn't justification about it. And it wasn't justification about it. And it wasn't until eliminating it for a period of until eliminating it for a period of until eliminating it for a period of time did I realize just how time did I realize just how time did I realize just how >> Are there any foods from when you were a >> Are there any foods from when you were a >> Are there any foods from when you were a kid that you haven't eaten in a while kid that you haven't eaten in a while kid that you haven't eaten in a while that you have a memory of that it tastes that you have a memory of that it tastes that you have a memory of that it tastes really good, but probably doesn't. really good, but probably doesn't. really good, but probably doesn't. >> I Mexican pizza from Taco Bell. I >> I Mexican pizza from Taco Bell. I >> I Mexican pizza from Taco Bell. I >> Taco Bell's now. Do you Now, can you >> Taco Bell's now. Do you Now, can you >> Taco Bell's now. Do you Now, can you imagine what it tastes like? imagine what it tastes like? imagine what it tastes like? >> I Yeah, I I remember going back to it. I >> I Yeah, I I remember going back to it. I >> I Yeah, I I remember going back to it. I was in my late 20s and I hadn't had it was in my late 20s and I hadn't had it was in my late 20s and I hadn't had it in years and I was like, I'm going to in years and I was like, I'm going to in years and I was like, I'm going to have that. I love that have that. I love that have that. I love that >> and it tore me up and it was the worst >> and it tore me up and it was the worst >> and it tore me up and it was the worst experience I ever had. It was so I never experience I ever had. It was so I never experience I ever had. It was so I never looked back after that. looked back after that. looked back after that. >> So, you know, >> So, you know, >> So, you know, >> cuz it was nothing like it was. >> cuz it was nothing like it was. >> cuz it was nothing like it was. >> You know what I had as a kid? So, when I >> You know what I had as a kid? So, when I >> You know what I had as a kid? So, when I used to go to work with my dad, uh there used to go to work with my dad, uh there used to go to work with my dad, uh there were certain things he would let me buy were certain things he would let me buy were certain things he would let me buy and you know, if we stop at the 7-Eleven and you know, if we stop at the 7-Eleven and you know, if we stop at the 7-Eleven or whatever, you guys remember home run or whatever, you guys remember home run or whatever, you guys remember home run pies? pies? pies? >> I knew you were going to bring this up >> I knew you were going to bring this up >> I knew you were going to bring this up for some reason cuz I used to eat those for some reason cuz I used to eat those for some reason cuz I used to eat those too. too. too. >> Of course you did. >> Of course you did. >> Of course you did. >> I used to be a quarter. I used to get I >> I used to be a quarter. I used to get I >> I used to be a quarter. I used to get I used to get them on my way to school. used to get them on my way to school. used to get them on my way to school. >> Yeah, dude. And they had weird for >> Yeah, dude. And they had weird for >> Yeah, dude. And they had weird for weird. Sometimes you'd get like the in, weird. Sometimes you'd get like the in, weird. Sometimes you'd get like the in, you know, that putty or whatever they you know, that putty or whatever they you know, that putty or whatever they put on the inside. Like sometimes it put on the inside. Like sometimes it put on the inside. Like sometimes it would be like more gelatinous. would be like more gelatinous. would be like more gelatinous. >> There they are. Right there. >> There they are. Right there. >> There they are. Right there. >> So it was like chewy and you're like, >> So it was like chewy and you're like, >> So it was like chewy and you're like, "Oh no, I got a chewy one." "Oh no, I got a chewy one." "Oh no, I got a chewy one." >> Yeah. That one in the middle, Doug. Home >> Yeah. That one in the middle, Doug. Home >> Yeah. That one in the middle, Doug. Home run pie. run pie. run pie. >> Yeah. And some sometimes Yeah. They >> Yeah. And some sometimes Yeah. They >> Yeah. And some sometimes Yeah. They >> remember they were they were four for a >> remember they were they were four for a >> remember they were they were four for a dollar, dollar, dollar, >> dude. They were twice at 7-Eleven. You >> dude. They were twice at 7-Eleven. You >> dude. They were twice at 7-Eleven. You could buy Yeah. four. And I right now I could buy Yeah. four. And I right now I could buy Yeah. four. And I right now I can picture it like the flavor and I I can picture it like the flavor and I I can picture it like the flavor and I I feel like it's good. But I know if I feel like it's good. But I know if I feel like it's good. But I know if I weren't to go eat one right now I'd be weren't to go eat one right now I'd be weren't to go eat one right now I'd be like like like >> what is what is that inside of it? What >> what is what is that inside of it? What >> what is what is that inside of it? What is a gelatin thing? is a gelatin thing? is a gelatin thing? >> Gelotinous fruitlike substance. I mean >> Gelotinous fruitlike substance. I mean >> Gelotinous fruitlike substance. I mean it's not real. it's not real. it's not real. >> It's it's about as processed as it gets. >> It's it's about as processed as it gets. >> It's it's about as processed as it gets. >> They're out of business. >> They're out of business. >> They're out of business. >> Oh they are out of business. >> Oh they are out of business. >> Oh they are out of business. >> Home run is but those other ones are I >> Home run is but those other ones are I >> Home run is but those other ones are I used to get those too. used to get those too. used to get those too. >> Hostess for >> Hostess for >> Hostess for >> I used to get those on the left. What >> I used to get those on the left. What >> I used to get those on the left. What are those called? are those called? are those called? >> I think those are Hostess. >> I think those are Hostess. >> I think those are Hostess. >> Oh you got Hostess? >> Oh you got Hostess? >> Oh you got Hostess? >> I also got the fruit pie. >> I also got the fruit pie. >> I also got the fruit pie. >> Oh the home run. Those home run pies >> Oh the home run. Those home run pies >> Oh the home run. Those home run pies over what I had. [clears throat] over what I had. [clears throat] over what I had. [clears throat] >> What was it? the their cupcakes that >> What was it? the their cupcakes that >> What was it? the their cupcakes that were the orange cupcakes instead of like were the orange cupcakes instead of like were the orange cupcakes instead of like the the the >> Oh, yeah. The the chocolate ones. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. The the chocolate ones. Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. The the chocolate ones. Yeah. >> Oh, you're talking about uh um >> Oh, you're talking about uh um >> Oh, you're talking about uh um like zingers. Zingers. Yeah. I'd eat like zingers. Zingers. Yeah. I'd eat like zingers. Zingers. Yeah. I'd eat those, too. And those are not good now. those, too. And those are not good now. those, too. And those are not good now. >> No, bro. I went through a period of time >> No, bro. I went through a period of time >> No, bro. I went through a period of time when I was trying to bulk and I figured when I was trying to bulk and I figured when I was trying to bulk and I figured out calories. I didn't figure I learned out calories. I didn't figure I learned out calories. I didn't figure I learned about calories. And so, my breakfast about calories. And so, my breakfast about calories. And so, my breakfast consisted of half a gallon of milk and a consisted of half a gallon of milk and a consisted of half a gallon of milk and a whole bunch of zingers. Like, protein, whole bunch of zingers. Like, protein, whole bunch of zingers. Like, protein, [laughter] fat, carbs. Let's go. You [laughter] fat, carbs. Let's go. You [laughter] fat, carbs. Let's go. You know what is still good though? Uh know what is still good though? Uh know what is still good though? Uh little Debbies, dude. I was [laughter] little Debbies, dude. I was [laughter] little Debbies, dude. I was [laughter] sitt in Alabama. sitt in Alabama. sitt in Alabama. I had some Little Debbies. Oh snap. This I had some Little Debbies. Oh snap. This I had some Little Debbies. Oh snap. This is [laughter] still is [laughter] still is [laughter] still Oh, I loved it. It's instant Oh, I loved it. It's instant Oh, I loved it. It's instant >> diary. It It is fascinating though how >> diary. It It is fascinating though how >> diary. It It is fascinating though how uh how much it pulls you once it's in uh how much it pulls you once it's in uh how much it pulls you once it's in there. like once you've been once it's a there. like once you've been once it's a there. like once you've been once it's a regular even if it's like semi-regular regular even if it's like semi-regular regular even if it's like semi-regular but if it's something that's in the but if it's something that's in the but if it's something that's in the rotation of your eating how it has this rotation of your eating how it has this rotation of your eating how it has this crazy pull and it it requires that you crazy pull and it it requires that you crazy pull and it it requires that you sever that for and I wish I I wish there sever that for and I wish I I wish there sever that for and I wish I I wish there was some research on the time that it was some research on the time that it was some research on the time that it took to do that cuz there because it'd took to do that cuz there because it'd took to do that cuz there because it'd be nice to be able to give a client like be nice to be able to give a client like be nice to be able to give a client like just give me this I this is why I think just give me this I this is why I think just give me this I this is why I think the whole 30 is such a magical uh like the whole 30 is such a magical uh like the whole 30 is such a magical uh like number because I think in 30 days of number because I think in 30 days of number because I think in 30 days of eating whole foods and eliminating all eating whole foods and eliminating all eating whole foods and eliminating all this stuff is enough for that pallet to this stuff is enough for that pallet to this stuff is enough for that pallet to at least start to change and and notice at least start to change and and notice at least start to change and and notice Just like that. Oh wow. Just like that. Oh wow. Just like that. Oh wow. >> Dude, how funny how funny is that? If >> Dude, how funny how funny is that? If >> Dude, how funny how funny is that? If you think back to the beginning, we tend you think back to the beginning, we tend you think back to the beginning, we tend to we try to think about or we tend to to we try to think about or we tend to to we try to think about or we tend to think that when food manufacturers think that when food manufacturers think that when food manufacturers figured this out was after figured this out was after figured this out was after >> the tobacco industry started to get >> the tobacco industry started to get >> the tobacco industry started to get regulated, right? Their scientists moved regulated, right? Their scientists moved regulated, right? Their scientists moved to the food industry. to the food industry. to the food industry. >> But it actually happened before that. >> But it actually happened before that. >> But it actually happened before that. You know, the first time they they tried You know, the first time they they tried You know, the first time they they tried to make a food addictive, to make a food addictive, to make a food addictive, >> Coca-Cola. >> Coca-Cola. >> Coca-Cola. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Cocaine. >> Cocaine. >> Cocaine. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Literally the most addictive. >> Literally the most addictive. >> Literally the most addictive. >> You imagine you imagine selling that the >> You imagine you imagine selling that the >> You imagine you imagine selling that the first time they sold they're like, first time they sold they're like, first time they sold they're like, "We're selling out. This is crazy you "We're selling out. This is crazy you "We're selling out. This is crazy you guys. People are buying this up like guys. People are buying this up like guys. People are buying this up like crazy. crazy. crazy. >> They were still using it in the formula >> They were still using it in the formula >> They were still using it in the formula just from the leaf extract, right? just from the leaf extract, right? just from the leaf extract, right? >> Well, see, don't you believe Okay, >> Well, see, don't you believe Okay, >> Well, see, don't you believe Okay, listen. listen. listen. >> When did Coca-Cola still have the >> When did Coca-Cola still have the >> When did Coca-Cola still have the flavor? flavor? flavor? >> I do not think that these scientists >> I do not think that these scientists >> I do not think that these scientists have figured I mean, listen. Okay, we have figured I mean, listen. Okay, we have figured I mean, listen. Okay, we not understand the supplement game not understand the supplement game not understand the supplement game really well because we've been around it really well because we've been around it really well because we've been around it so long. What has been the one of the so long. What has been the one of the so long. What has been the one of the biggest supplement hustles ever is you biggest supplement hustles ever is you biggest supplement hustles ever is you change a molecule just a little bit so change a molecule just a little bit so change a molecule just a little bit so it's not legal? it's not legal? it's not legal? >> So, it's legal and then also then then >> So, it's legal and then also then then >> So, it's legal and then also then then they bard. You going to tell me you they bard. You going to tell me you they bard. You going to tell me you don't think that scientists have figured don't think that scientists have figured don't think that scientists have figured out things that that work like cocaine out things that that work like cocaine out things that that work like cocaine on the brain and co like they've done on the brain and co like they've done on the brain and co like they've done exactly that. exactly that. exactly that. >> Yeah. They were one of the biggest uh >> Yeah. They were one of the biggest uh >> Yeah. They were one of the biggest uh buyers I believe of of cocaine and then buyers I believe of of cocaine and then buyers I believe of of cocaine and then they would end up selling it to they would end up selling it to they would end up selling it to pharmaceutical companies. pharmaceutical companies. pharmaceutical companies. >> Doug look okay. Trip off this you guys. >> Doug look okay. Trip off this you guys. >> Doug look okay. Trip off this you guys. Our great-grandfathers Our great-grandfathers Our great-grandfathers pretty I mean they could have very well pretty I mean they could have very well pretty I mean they could have very well have drinking drank cocaine Coca-Cola. have drinking drank cocaine Coca-Cola. have drinking drank cocaine Coca-Cola. It was in 1886. It was in 1886. It was in 1886. >> Lucky. >> Lucky. >> Lucky. >> How much cocaine? [laughter] >> How much cocaine? [laughter] >> How much cocaine? [laughter] >> Yeah. But I bet it was so minimal. I bet >> Yeah. But I bet it was so minimal. I bet >> Yeah. But I bet it was so minimal. I bet it's not much different than what we it's not much different than what we it's not much different than what we drink today. No, no, no. Hold on. I want drink today. No, no, no. Hold on. I want drink today. No, no, no. Hold on. I want to see how much cocaine was in the to see how much cocaine was in the to see how much cocaine was in the original Coca-Cola. original Coca-Cola. original Coca-Cola. >> Like, is it like are you getting are you >> Like, is it like are you getting are you >> Like, is it like are you getting are you >> Who needs caffeine, dude? >> Who needs caffeine, dude? >> Who needs caffeine, dude? >> They Well, I mean, I had co I had >> They Well, I mean, I had co I had >> They Well, I mean, I had co I had caffeine in there. caffeine in there. caffeine in there. >> It wouldn't be It wouldn't be profitable >> It wouldn't be It wouldn't be profitable >> It wouldn't be It wouldn't be profitable if they had a lot, bro. Come on. if they had a lot, bro. Come on. if they had a lot, bro. Come on. >> Huh? It was an eight. Remember, this is >> Huh? It was an eight. Remember, this is >> Huh? It was an eight. Remember, this is back then. 8 to 10 5 to 10 mil to 9 back then. 8 to 10 5 to 10 mil to 9 back then. 8 to 10 5 to 10 mil to 9 milligrams of cocaine per serving. milligrams of cocaine per serving. milligrams of cocaine per serving. >> I don't know. I don't know my cocaine. >> I don't know. I don't know my cocaine. >> I don't know. I don't know my cocaine. Is that a lot? What is that in like a Is that a lot? What is that in like a Is that a lot? What is that in like a [laughter] Hey, low key. I was I was [laughter] Hey, low key. I was I was [laughter] Hey, low key. I was I was waiting for Adam to give us the break. waiting for Adam to give us the break. waiting for Adam to give us the break. >> Yeah, I know. The breakdown. Stupid, >> Yeah, I know. The breakdown. Stupid, >> Yeah, I know. The breakdown. Stupid, [laughter] bro. Stupid. Well, I thought [laughter] bro. Stupid. Well, I thought [laughter] bro. Stupid. Well, I thought you would have known. you would have known. you would have known. >> Stop. I thought I may. I don't know. >> Stop. I thought I may. I don't know. >> Stop. I thought I may. I don't know. This is If it was weed, I would 5 to 9 This is If it was weed, I would 5 to 9 This is If it was weed, I would 5 to 9 milligrams. How much cocaine is in the milligrams. How much cocaine is in the milligrams. How much cocaine is in the typical line of cocaine, Doug? Google typical line of cocaine, Doug? Google typical line of cocaine, Doug? Google that. that. that. >> That [laughter] say he's for sure being >> That [laughter] say he's for sure being >> That [laughter] say he's for sure being watched by the FB. watched by the FB. watched by the FB. >> I just want to see how many Cokes you >> I just want to see how many Cokes you >> I just want to see how many Cokes you had to have. had to have. had to have. >> Yeah, me too. I'm used to that. Be >> Yeah, me too. I'm used to that. Be >> Yeah, me too. I'm used to that. Be interesting. It'd be interesting to see. interesting. It'd be interesting to see. interesting. It'd be interesting to see. So, that says 5 to 9 millig per coke. So, that says 5 to 9 millig per coke. So, that says 5 to 9 millig per coke. >> Yeah. How many milligs of cocaine are in >> Yeah. How many milligs of cocaine are in >> Yeah. How many milligs of cocaine are in the typical? the typical? the typical? >> So, milligrams rather milligrams. Yeah. >> So, milligrams rather milligrams. Yeah. >> So, milligrams rather milligrams. Yeah. How many milligs would be a typical How many milligs would be a typical How many milligs would be a typical >> AI is having some trouble with his >> AI is having some trouble with his >> AI is having some trouble with his >> I can't answer that. No, it's definitely >> I can't answer that. No, it's definitely >> I can't answer that. No, it's definitely sending you over to the FBI right now. sending you over to the FBI right now. sending you over to the FBI right now. [laughter] >> Uh oh. Wow. Right away it gives you it >> Uh oh. Wow. Right away it gives you it gives you an it won't give you an gives you an it won't give you an gives you an it won't give you an answer. There is no amount that can answer. There is no amount that can answer. There is no amount that can beat. Wow. What give you an answer? beat. Wow. What give you an answer? beat. Wow. What give you an answer? >> Yeah. Scummy. >> Yeah. Scummy. >> Yeah. Scummy. >> Scroll down. See what that >> Scroll down. See what that >> Scroll down. See what that >> uh how long. >> uh how long. >> uh how long. >> What is Oh, it's an eightball. Yeah, >> What is Oh, it's an eightball. Yeah, >> What is Oh, it's an eightball. Yeah, it's an eightball. So, we get it's an eightball. So, we get it's an eightball. So, we get >> Well, eightball is What is an eightball? >> Well, eightball is What is an eightball? >> Well, eightball is What is an eightball? >> Because that's what you would buy, >> Because that's what you would buy, >> Because that's what you would buy, right? right? right? >> That's amount of It's probably eight >> That's amount of It's probably eight >> That's amount of It's probably eight grams would be my guess. How many grams? grams would be my guess. How many grams? grams would be my guess. How many grams? >> This is my guess because I don't know. >> This is my guess because I don't know. >> This is my guess because I don't know. >> That's Google's [laughter] cracker. >> That's Google's [laughter] cracker. >> That's Google's [laughter] cracker. >> Okay. 1/8 of 3.5 g. So, this was >> Okay. 1/8 of 3.5 g. So, this was >> Okay. 1/8 of 3.5 g. So, this was >> so 3500 milligrams. 3,500 mg. >> so 3500 milligrams. 3,500 mg. >> so 3500 milligrams. 3,500 mg. >> Now, I'm not You know what? Let's not do >> Now, I'm not You know what? Let's not do >> Now, I'm not You know what? Let's not do this because I don't I was about to ask this because I don't I was about to ask this because I don't I was about to ask how how long does it take how how long does it take how how long does it take >> to go through an a [laughter] >> to go through an a [laughter] >> to go through an a [laughter] >> night? I'm looking at Adam. Adam, did >> night? I'm looking at Adam. Adam, did >> night? I'm looking at Adam. Adam, did you know the answer to like in one you know the answer to like in one you know the answer to like in one night, you know? [laughter] >> Wow. >> Wow. There wasn't a whole lot of cupcake. There wasn't a whole lot of cupcake. There wasn't a whole lot of cupcake. >> I'm sure though. Listen, I'm sure >> I'm sure though. Listen, I'm sure >> I'm sure though. Listen, I'm sure >> that's not a lot. If if you're telling >> that's not a lot. If if you're telling >> that's not a lot. If if you're telling me that an eightball is 3,500 me that an eightball is 3,500 me that an eightball is 3,500 milligrams and they and they only had milligrams and they and they only had milligrams and they and they only had >> How many cups? You have to drink >> How many cups? You have to drink >> How many cups? You have to drink [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] a lot. a lot. a lot. >> So my So my point to you is I would >> So my So my point to you is I would >> So my So my point to you is I would argue that the caffeine they put in it argue that the caffeine they put in it argue that the caffeine they put in it now probably stimulates you as much or now probably stimulates you as much or now probably stimulates you as much or more than that that cocaine does. more than that that cocaine does. more than that that cocaine does. >> Well, it had just as much caffeine back >> Well, it had just as much caffeine back >> Well, it had just as much caffeine back then. then. then. >> Did it have that? Did it have caffeine >> Did it have that? Did it have caffeine >> Did it have that? Did it have caffeine back then? back then? back then? >> Yeah, it did. Cola. They put K O L A >> Yeah, it did. Cola. They put K O L A >> Yeah, it did. Cola. They put K O L A leaf or whatever plant and that has leaf or whatever plant and that has leaf or whatever plant and that has caffeine in it. It had both, bro. caffeine in it. It had both, bro. caffeine in it. It had both, bro. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you had the cocoa and the cola. >> So, you had the cocoa and the cola. >> So, you had the cocoa and the cola. >> They were They were giving it They >> They were They were giving it They >> They were They were giving it They >> Is that Is that how it got its name? >> Is that Is that how it got its name? >> Is that Is that how it got its name? >> Oh my god, dog. You just blew my mind. >> Oh my god, dog. You just blew my mind. >> Oh my god, dog. You just blew my mind. That's why it's Coca-Cola. That's why it's Coca-Cola. That's why it's Coca-Cola. >> That's pretty sure. >> That's pretty sure. >> That's pretty sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow, bro. >> Wow, bro. >> Wow, bro. >> They literally named it cocaine >> They literally named it cocaine >> They literally named it cocaine caffeine. That's what they called it. caffeine. That's what they called it. caffeine. That's what they called it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Wow. Dude, >> Wow. Dude, >> Wow. Dude, >> just just be obvious with it. [laughter] >> just just be obvious with it. [laughter] >> just just be obvious with it. [laughter] >> Just call it what it is. >> Just call it what it is. >> Just call it what it is. >> So, 388 >> So, 388 >> So, 388 bottles of Coke would have given you an bottles of Coke would have given you an bottles of Coke would have given you an Aball. Aball. Aball. >> Oh, yeah. That's That's crazy, bro. >> Oh, yeah. That's That's crazy, bro. >> Oh, yeah. That's That's crazy, bro. That's crazy. Yeah. The cocoa leaf and That's crazy. Yeah. The cocoa leaf and That's crazy. Yeah. The cocoa leaf and cola the cola nut. cola the cola nut. cola the cola nut. >> Yeah. Wow. That's why they call it >> Yeah. Wow. That's why they call it >> Yeah. Wow. That's why they call it cocoa. cocoa. cocoa. >> They call it medicinal ingredients. >> They call it medicinal ingredients. >> They call it medicinal ingredients. >> Now, do they now uh do they today add >> Now, do they now uh do they today add >> Now, do they now uh do they today add caffeine to it, though? caffeine to it, though? caffeine to it, though? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, there's So, that's my point is >> Yeah. So, there's So, that's my point is >> Yeah. So, there's So, that's my point is that what it probably had a small You that what it probably had a small You that what it probably had a small You >> think they added more caffeine because >> think they added more caffeine because >> think they added more caffeine because they got rid of coke and probably bumped they got rid of coke and probably bumped they got rid of coke and probably bumped caffe they probably found that we could caffe they probably found that we could caffe they probably found that we could take we could that stimulating effect take we could that stimulating effect take we could that stimulating effect that we're getting from that little bit that we're getting from that little bit that we're getting from that little bit of cocaine. We could probably double or of cocaine. We could probably double or of cocaine. We could probably double or triple the caffeine and give people triple the caffeine and give people triple the caffeine and give people >> Don't they they derived some kind of >> Don't they they derived some kind of >> Don't they they derived some kind of extract from the leaf still so it gets extract from the leaf still so it gets extract from the leaf still so it gets the flavor because I I I remember that the flavor because I I I remember that the flavor because I I I remember that was like part of the flavoring that was like part of the flavoring that was like part of the flavoring that people were like pissed when they people were like pissed when they people were like pissed when they changed the formula. changed the formula. changed the formula. >> No, it does not have more caffeine. In >> No, it does not have more caffeine. In >> No, it does not have more caffeine. In fact, it's believed the caffeine levels fact, it's believed the caffeine levels fact, it's believed the caffeine levels were much higher. Bro, they were were much higher. Bro, they were were much higher. Bro, they were drinking some Coke, bro, back in the drinking some Coke, bro, back in the drinking some Coke, bro, back in the day. day. day. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Like they were Hey, those factory >> Like they were Hey, those factory >> Like they were Hey, those factory workers were getting were getting after workers were getting were getting after workers were getting were getting after it. it. it. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, next time next time you >> Yeah. Yeah. So, next time next time you >> Yeah. Yeah. So, next time next time you hear stories from your hear stories from your hear stories from your great-grandfather, we used the one. So, great-grandfather, we used the one. So, great-grandfather, we used the one. So, a Coke has 70 millig of the original a Coke has 70 millig of the original a Coke has 70 millig of the original recipe. Today, a Coke today would be recipe. Today, a Coke today would be recipe. Today, a Coke today would be like 20. like 20. like 20. >> Yeah, cuz that's like that's Jolt >> Yeah, cuz that's like that's Jolt >> Yeah, cuz that's like that's Jolt numbers. numbers. numbers. >> No, Jolt's less than that. Jolt's like >> No, Jolt's less than that. Jolt's like >> No, Jolt's less than that. Jolt's like 65. 65. 65. >> Jolt was really high. I thought Jolt was >> Jolt was really high. I thought Jolt was >> Jolt was really high. I thought Jolt was 70 numbers. 70 numbers. 70 numbers. >> I know. I thought Jolt was >> I know. I thought Jolt was >> I know. I thought Jolt was >> No, Jolt was low. That's That's a Red >> No, Jolt was low. That's That's a Red >> No, Jolt was low. That's That's a Red Bull. Red Bull's closer to 80. Bull. Red Bull's closer to 80. Bull. Red Bull's closer to 80. >> Is Is Red Bull 80 or 120? >> Is Is Red Bull 80 or 120? >> Is Is Red Bull 80 or 120? >> There's a 90 and then there's a 120. The >> There's a 90 and then there's a 120. The >> There's a 90 and then there's a 120. The bigger can. bigger can. bigger can. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Wow. Is that really Oh, no. Look >> Yeah. Wow. Is that really Oh, no. Look >> Yeah. Wow. Is that really Oh, no. Look at Jolt, bro. at Jolt, bro. at Jolt, bro. >> Oh, 71. You were right. Yeah. Okay. >> Oh, 71. You were right. Yeah. Okay. >> Oh, 71. You were right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So, that So, basically, it Okay. Yeah. So, that So, basically, it Okay. Yeah. So, that So, basically, it was like a Which remember we used to was like a Which remember we used to was like a Which remember we used to trip out about Jolt being like, "Oh my trip out about Jolt being like, "Oh my trip out about Jolt being like, "Oh my god, there's so much caffeine." Imagine god, there's so much caffeine." Imagine god, there's so much caffeine." Imagine Jolt with some cocaine. Jolt with some cocaine. Jolt with some cocaine. >> Wow. Wow. That's what they had. >> Wow. Wow. That's what they had. >> Wow. Wow. That's what they had. >> Imagine a Jolt with a little bit of >> Imagine a Jolt with a little bit of >> Imagine a Jolt with a little bit of cocaine in it. cocaine in it. cocaine in it. >> So wild. >> So wild. >> So wild. >> That is wild. That's wild. That That was >> That is wild. That's wild. That That was >> That is wild. That's wild. That That was like a regular dream. like a regular dream. like a regular dream. >> I want to play Nintendo real fast. >> I want to play Nintendo real fast. >> I want to play Nintendo real fast. >> You know what though? Hey, when you when >> You know what though? Hey, when you when >> You know what though? Hey, when you when when when when you work the way they when when when you work the way they when when when you work the way they probably worked, you know, you burn that probably worked, you know, you burn that probably worked, you know, you burn that [ __ ] off. [ __ ] off. [ __ ] off. >> I mean, you're 12 years old, you're >> I mean, you're 12 years old, you're >> I mean, you're 12 years old, you're working in a factory for [laughter] 16 working in a factory for [laughter] 16 working in a factory for [laughter] 16 hours, hours, hours, >> building stone walls, >> building stone walls, >> building stone walls, >> you know, you're like, you're, you know, >> you know, you're like, you're, you know, >> you know, you're like, you're, you know, you're you're you're working in a cold. you're you're you're working in a cold. you're you're you're working in a cold. I mean, you know, like here, drink a I mean, you know, like here, drink a I mean, you know, like here, drink a Coke, kid. [laughter] Coke, kid. [laughter] Coke, kid. [laughter] >> It's the only way you're going to get >> It's the only way you're going to get >> It's the only way you're going to get through this. through this. through this. >> Have a little cocaine and caffeine. We >> Have a little cocaine and caffeine. We >> Have a little cocaine and caffeine. We got we got you covered. got we got you covered. got we got you covered. >> This is how you can do it. >> This is how you can do it. >> This is how you can do it. >> I was talking to a buddy of mine. He was >> I was talking to a buddy of mine. He was >> I was talking to a buddy of mine. He was asking me asking me asking me >> like my history in the fitness industry >> like my history in the fitness industry >> like my history in the fitness industry and stuff like that. And he's like, "Oh, and stuff like that. And he's like, "Oh, and stuff like that. And he's like, "Oh, you really got into it when you're a you really got into it when you're a you really got into it when you're a kid." I'm like, dude, I used to create kid." I'm like, dude, I used to create kid." I'm like, dude, I used to create my own supplements. I remember there was my own supplements. I remember there was my own supplements. I remember there was that more than one time as a kid when I that more than one time as a kid when I that more than one time as a kid when I did not know. Listen, I'm not a chemist, did not know. Listen, I'm not a chemist, did not know. Listen, I'm not a chemist, but I thought I knew what the hell I was but I thought I knew what the hell I was but I thought I knew what the hell I was doing. I would combine supplements doing. I would combine supplements doing. I would combine supplements trying to create new, you know, effects trying to create new, you know, effects trying to create new, you know, effects or whatever. or whatever. or whatever. >> You still do this. >> You still do this. >> You still do this. >> There I know I do. [laughter] >> There I know I do. [laughter] >> There I know I do. [laughter] >> I'm smarter about it now. Nothing's >> I'm smarter about it now. Nothing's >> I'm smarter about it now. Nothing's changed. changed. changed. >> I haven't overdosed a long time. >> I haven't overdosed a long time. >> I haven't overdosed a long time. >> You have a lot of practice. >> You have a lot of practice. >> You have a lot of practice. >> Actually, recently I did. I I There were >> Actually, recently I did. I I There were >> Actually, recently I did. I I There were more than a couple times, man, where I more than a couple times, man, where I more than a couple times, man, where I took a concoction of supplements took a concoction of supplements took a concoction of supplements [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] and I was just praying. and I was just praying. and I was just praying. >> Let's be honest. as much. You You >> Let's be honest. as much. You You >> Let's be honest. as much. You You recently had to go to the doctor not recently had to go to the doctor not recently had to go to the doctor not that long ago. that long ago. that long ago. >> I did once. I did. I know. That was my >> I did once. I did. I know. That was my >> I did once. I did. I know. That was my bad. That was so bad. Dude, bad. That was so bad. Dude, bad. That was so bad. Dude, >> you were having like heart palpitations. >> you were having like heart palpitations. >> you were having like heart palpitations. >> No, it wasn't bad, dude. I gave myself >> No, it wasn't bad, dude. I gave myself >> No, it wasn't bad, dude. I gave myself almost serotonin syndrome. almost serotonin syndrome. almost serotonin syndrome. >> Yeah, that's what it was. That's what >> Yeah, that's what it was. That's what >> Yeah, that's what it was. That's what Oh, dude. I So, speaking of like Oh, dude. I So, speaking of like Oh, dude. I So, speaking of like nostalgia and like uh uh there was this nostalgia and like uh uh there was this nostalgia and like uh uh there was this fun fact like in Santa Cruz of all fun fact like in Santa Cruz of all fun fact like in Santa Cruz of all places, like the Pizza Hut that was places, like the Pizza Hut that was places, like the Pizza Hut that was there like back in I don't know if it there like back in I don't know if it there like back in I don't know if it was in the [clears throat] uh early 80s was in the [clears throat] uh early 80s was in the [clears throat] uh early 80s or '7s or whatever, but um they were or '7s or whatever, but um they were or '7s or whatever, but um they were actually responsible for the first um actually responsible for the first um actually responsible for the first um online order that's ever like in Santa online order that's ever like in Santa online order that's ever like in Santa Cruz. Cruz. Cruz. >> Yeah. One of the first companies that >> Yeah. One of the first companies that >> Yeah. One of the first companies that actually like put uh you're able to actually like put uh you're able to actually like put uh you're able to order a pizza online. order a pizza online. order a pizza online. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. I didn't know that. I was like, >> Yeah. I didn't know that. I was like, >> Yeah. I didn't know that. I was like, >> I mean, it makes sense. We're so close >> I mean, it makes sense. We're so close >> I mean, it makes sense. We're so close to Silicon Valley. to Silicon Valley. to Silicon Valley. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> So, that makes sense. So, it makes sense >> So, that makes sense. So, it makes sense >> So, that makes sense. So, it makes sense that it would be the first like.com that it would be the first like.com that it would be the first like.com business that did it. Pizza, one of the business that did it. Pizza, one of the business that did it. Pizza, one of the simplest things that you can order. So, simplest things that you can order. So, simplest things that you can order. So, you don't have a huge crazy complex you don't have a huge crazy complex you don't have a huge crazy complex recipe or code behind it. recipe or code behind it. recipe or code behind it. >> Yeah. And ironically, one of the only >> Yeah. And ironically, one of the only >> Yeah. And ironically, one of the only business like it's just out of business business like it's just out of business business like it's just out of business now. [laughter] now. [laughter] now. [laughter] >> Well, did you know that was it Pizza >> Well, did you know that was it Pizza >> Well, did you know that was it Pizza Hut? One of the first companies to sell Hut? One of the first companies to sell Hut? One of the first companies to sell pizza or food uh for Bitcoin. And this pizza or food uh for Bitcoin. And this pizza or food uh for Bitcoin. And this is back when there was I read this story is back when there was I read this story is back when there was I read this story about this guy who bought a pizza with about this guy who bought a pizza with about this guy who bought a pizza with like 10 Bitcoin because it were worth like 10 Bitcoin because it were worth like 10 Bitcoin because it were worth nothing back then. No way, dude. nothing back then. No way, dude. nothing back then. No way, dude. >> And he could be like millions of >> And he could be like millions of >> And he could be like millions of dollars. dollars. dollars. >> Sell it as height. Oh man. >> Sell it as height. Oh man. >> Sell it as height. Oh man. >> On May 22nd, 2010, programmer LLO Hex >> On May 22nd, 2010, programmer LLO Hex >> On May 22nd, 2010, programmer LLO Hex made history by buying two Oh, it's Papa made history by buying two Oh, it's Papa made history by buying two Oh, it's Papa John's pizzas 10,000 Bitcoin. [laughter] >> Imagine that. Telling that story. Oh, >> Imagine that. Telling that story. Oh, >> in 2010 it was valued at $41. Right now >> in 2010 it was valued at $41. Right now >> in 2010 it was valued at $41. Right now it's a billion. He bought two pizzas for it's a billion. He bought two pizzas for it's a billion. He bought two pizzas for today's dollars. A billion dollars. today's dollars. A billion dollars. today's dollars. A billion dollars. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> That's insane, dude. >> That's insane, dude. >> That's insane, dude. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. The legendary transaction >> Yeah. The legendary transaction >> Yeah. The legendary transaction celebrating. celebrating. celebrating. >> I wonder how many I wonder how many >> I wonder how many I wonder how many >> I wonder how many I wonder how many people have actually like really truly people have actually like really truly people have actually like really truly held. There's so much flipping going on. held. There's so much flipping going on. held. There's so much flipping going on. >> You guys know I was you I've told you >> You guys know I was you I've told you >> You guys know I was you I've told you guys before and I'm not making this up. guys before and I'm not making this up. guys before and I'm not making this up. >> I was this close to I feel like >> I was this close to I feel like >> I was this close to I feel like everybody has that story. everybody has that story. everybody has that story. >> I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I had a >> I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I had a >> I don't know. Oh, I don't know. I had a client Mark um client Mark um client Mark um >> and I had that story for Google. I >> and I had that story for Google. I >> and I had that story for Google. I remember when Google I had a client that remember when Google I had a client that remember when Google I had a client that was telling me go buy it. I think it was was telling me go buy it. I think it was was telling me go buy it. I think it was like what was it? $33 or 16. What did it like what was it? $33 or 16. What did it like what was it? $33 or 16. What did it open at? Google came in came out at open at? Google came in came out at open at? Google came in came out at under 50 bucks. under 50 bucks. under 50 bucks. >> Yeah. But were you buying shares at the >> Yeah. But were you buying shares at the >> Yeah. But were you buying shares at the time? Stocks? time? Stocks? time? Stocks? >> I was just I was interested in it. Like >> I was just I was interested in it. Like >> I was just I was interested in it. Like I was just getting started I was just getting started I was just getting started >> cuz I was this close. He's like buy He's >> cuz I was this close. He's like buy He's >> cuz I was this close. He's like buy He's closing me on it, selling me on it. He's closing me on it, selling me on it. He's closing me on it, selling me on it. He's a libertarian. I'm a libertarian. I'm a libertarian. I'm a libertarian. I'm a libertarian. I'm a libertarian. I'm like oh this is interesting. And you like oh this is interesting. And you like oh this is interesting. And you know what made me stop? He goes you have know what made me stop? He goes you have know what made me stop? He goes you have to buy an external thing called a to buy an external thing called a to buy an external thing called a wallet. I'm like too much work. wallet. I'm like too much work. wallet. I'm like too much work. >> Yeah. I was going to put $1,000 reserve >> Yeah. I was going to put $1,000 reserve >> Yeah. I was going to put $1,000 reserve which would be worth $100 million. which would be worth $100 million. which would be worth $100 million. >> Yeah, that was I was going to put like >> Yeah, that was I was going to put like >> Yeah, that was I was going to put like $1,000 into Google when she told me to $1,000 into Google when she told me to $1,000 into Google when she told me to go do it and I was just like but even go do it and I was just like but even go do it and I was just like but even then I was just like thousand bucks on then I was just like thousand bucks on then I was just like thousand bucks on this thing I don't know and yeah know of this thing I don't know and yeah know of this thing I don't know and yeah know of course I feel like everybody has that course I feel like everybody has that course I feel like everybody has that story but my point is that and this is story but my point is that and this is story but my point is that and this is the same argument like we we were the same argument like we we were the same argument like we we were talking earlier about index funds you talking earlier about index funds you talking earlier about index funds you know very few people I I actually looked know very few people I I actually looked know very few people I I actually looked this up it's like crazy number actually this up it's like crazy number actually this up it's like crazy number actually hold stocks for that long. hold stocks for that long. hold stocks for that long. >> I know. So it's like you everyone always >> I know. So it's like you everyone always >> I know. So it's like you everyone always everyone always talks about like oh if everyone always talks about like oh if everyone always talks about like oh if you just like if you just hold it if you you just like if you just hold it if you you just like if you just hold it if you just hold that and just keep going index just hold that and just keep going index just hold that and just keep going index fun. Yeah. But the average person fun. Yeah. But the average person fun. Yeah. But the average person doesn't hold it for like I think it's doesn't hold it for like I think it's doesn't hold it for like I think it's under a year is the average person and under a year is the average person and under a year is the average person and then like the long is like a couple then like the long is like a couple then like the long is like a couple years. So when you people do these years. So when you people do these years. So when you people do these historical runs it's like yeah but no historical runs it's like yeah but no historical runs it's like yeah but no nobody buys Bitcoin in 2010 and holds it nobody buys Bitcoin in 2010 and holds it nobody buys Bitcoin in 2010 and holds it till 2025. till 2025. till 2025. >> Let me put it this way. It's worth a >> Let me put it this way. It's worth a >> Let me put it this way. It's worth a billion dollars today. Look at this for billion dollars today. Look at this for billion dollars today. Look at this for the average the average the average the average holding period of a US stock the average holding period of a US stock the average holding period of a US stock is now roughly 5 and a half to 10 is now roughly 5 and a half to 10 is now roughly 5 and a half to 10 months. months. months. >> So I I never sell never good or bad. I >> So I I never sell never good or bad. I >> So I I never sell never good or bad. I just don't I just leave it. I pretend just don't I just leave it. I pretend just don't I just leave it. I pretend like it doesn't exist. It just sits like it doesn't exist. It just sits like it doesn't exist. It just sits there for there for there for >> and listen that is down from the the >> and listen that is down from the the >> and listen that is down from the the average of five years in 1970s. average of five years in 1970s. average of five years in 1970s. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> In eight years I see. So a lot of these >> In eight years I see. So a lot of these >> In eight years I see. So a lot of these people they always love to do these runs people they always love to do these runs people they always love to do these runs like if you just have an index fund and like if you just have an index fund and like if you just have an index fund and you put it in there for the last 15 20 you put it in there for the last 15 20 you put it in there for the last 15 20 years you'd be this wealthy. It's just years you'd be this wealthy. It's just years you'd be this wealthy. It's just like nobody does that. like nobody does that. like nobody does that. >> I know. Yeah. >> I know. Yeah. >> I know. Yeah. >> Nobody does that. >> Nobody does that. >> Nobody does that. >> Nobody holds that long. >> Nobody holds that long. >> Nobody holds that long. >> No, I know. So, it's really it's like so >> No, I know. So, it's really it's like so >> No, I know. So, it's really it's like so my point is like the Bitcoin thing. It's my point is like the Bitcoin thing. It's my point is like the Bitcoin thing. It's like, you know, there's so many of these like, you know, there's so many of these like, you know, there's so many of these stories. It's like, yeah, but how many stories. It's like, yeah, but how many stories. It's like, yeah, but how many people actually bought like that? You people actually bought like that? You people actually bought like that? You know, who's that meme guy who who who know, who's that meme guy who who who know, who's that meme guy who who who held and everybody was trying to get him held and everybody was trying to get him held and everybody was trying to get him to sell. He and he did Doge. He was the to sell. He and he did Doge. He was the to sell. He and he did Doge. He was the he was the the the the kid who like he was the the the the kid who like he was the the the the kid who like leveraged all his he he took out all his leveraged all his he he took out all his leveraged all his he he took out all his money on credit cards and he and he Eli, money on credit cards and he and he Eli, money on credit cards and he and he Eli, I know Eli knows who this is. talking I know Eli knows who this is. talking I know Eli knows who this is. talking about about about >> who's the who's the doge who's the doge >> who's the who's the doge who's the doge >> who's the who's the doge who's the doge kid who who who who who leveraged all kid who who who who who leveraged all kid who who who who who leveraged all his money and bought all this doge and his money and bought all this doge and his money and bought all this doge and he wrote it. He's like a cat cat he wrote it. He's like a cat cat he wrote it. He's like a cat cat something was his call sign or [ __ ] something was his call sign or [ __ ] something was his call sign or [ __ ] whatever his whatever his whatever his >> what's his name? >> what's his name? >> what's his name? >> He's going to find out. >> He's going to find out. >> He's going to find out. >> I believe he he was >> I believe he he was >> I believe he he was >> big balls. >> big balls. >> big balls. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah. No, but there was a dude >> Yeah. No, but there was a dude >> Yeah. No, but there was a dude >> he wrote he wrote he wrote it to like >> he wrote he wrote he wrote it to like >> he wrote he wrote he wrote it to like tens of millions of dollars and then I tens of millions of dollars and then I tens of millions of dollars and then I think he wrote it all the way back down think he wrote it all the way back down think he wrote it all the way back down >> to like because I don't think is Doge >> to like because I don't think is Doge >> to like because I don't think is Doge worth what's Doge worth now? worth what's Doge worth now? worth what's Doge worth now? >> Nothing. >> Nothing. >> Nothing. >> Kid made five. >> Kid made five. >> Kid made five. >> No, no, no. Doug's Eli's googling it >> No, no, no. Doug's Eli's googling it >> No, no, no. Doug's Eli's googling it right now. right now. right now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. I've been uh >> Oh, yeah. I've been uh >> Oh, yeah. I've been uh >> there [clears throat] was a whole >> there [clears throat] was a whole >> there [clears throat] was a whole documentary there was a whole documentary there was a whole documentary there was a whole documentary on him on on Netflix. documentary on him on on Netflix. documentary on him on on Netflix. >> I don't know. Well, while he's looking >> I don't know. Well, while he's looking >> I don't know. Well, while he's looking that up, I just pulled something up. Uh that up, I just pulled something up. Uh that up, I just pulled something up. Uh there was a large 2026 2026 study where there was a large 2026 2026 study where there was a large 2026 2026 study where they took 6,441 they took 6,441 they took 6,441 samples across 14 popular peptides from samples across 14 popular peptides from samples across 14 popular peptides from research chemical companies. Okay? So research chemical companies. Okay? So research chemical companies. Okay? So these aren't the legit like this is not these aren't the legit like this is not these aren't the legit like this is not like going through our people at like going through our people at like going through our people at mpormones.com where they work with the mpormones.com where they work with the mpormones.com where they work with the FDA regulated compound pharmacy. These FDA regulated compound pharmacy. These FDA regulated compound pharmacy. These are the research chemical companies. are the research chemical companies. are the research chemical companies. >> So they they tested over 6,000 samples. >> So they they tested over 6,000 samples. >> So they they tested over 6,000 samples. >> 41 to 71% failed basic quality criteria. >> 41 to 71% failed basic quality criteria. >> 41 to 71% failed basic quality criteria. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yikes. >> Yeah. more than 50%. >> Yeah. more than 50%. >> Yeah. more than 50%. >> Yeah. 41 to 70 71%. And it's typically >> Yeah. 41 to 70 71%. And it's typically >> Yeah. 41 to 70 71%. And it's typically dosing or a compound. dosing or a compound. dosing or a compound. >> So it's either underdosed, overdosed, >> So it's either underdosed, overdosed, >> So it's either underdosed, overdosed, >> or or you're getting BPC, but actually >> or or you're getting BPC, but actually >> or or you're getting BPC, but actually you're getting some. you're getting some. you're getting some. >> Okay. Where else could you have screwed >> Okay. Where else could you have screwed >> Okay. Where else could you have screwed up? up? up? >> Oh, well, it could be have toxins in >> Oh, well, it could be have toxins in >> Oh, well, it could be have toxins in there. Okay. There's some of them there. Okay. There's some of them there. Okay. There's some of them measured high levels of uh of heavy measured high levels of uh of heavy measured high levels of uh of heavy metals. metals. metals. >> Some of them had endotoxins, which >> Some of them had endotoxins, which >> Some of them had endotoxins, which >> So what I'm saying like where what do >> So what I'm saying like where what do >> So what I'm saying like where what do they not where where do they not miss? they not where where do they not miss? they not where where do they not miss? They missed on everything. They missed on everything. They missed on everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? >> Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? >> Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? >> So, it's a throw huge. So, you you you >> So, it's a throw huge. So, you you you >> So, it's a throw huge. So, you you you again go save save money. Go gray market again go save save money. Go gray market again go save save money. 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Use the code mindpump20 for 20% off. Use the code mindpump20 for 20% off. Use the code mindpump20 for 20% off. Back to the show. Back to the show. Back to the show. First question is from Delissa Perez 85. First question is from Delissa Perez 85. First question is from Delissa Perez 85. How many rest days should you How many rest days should you How many rest days should you incorporate weekly if you strength incorporate weekly if you strength incorporate weekly if you strength train? [clears throat] train? [clears throat] train? [clears throat] >> Well, this depends on the intensity and >> Well, this depends on the intensity and >> Well, this depends on the intensity and the volume kind of the structure of your the volume kind of the structure of your the volume kind of the structure of your strength training. But a good rule of strength training. But a good rule of strength training. But a good rule of thumb is if you're doing more kind of a thumb is if you're doing more kind of a thumb is if you're doing more kind of a traditional strength training routine traditional strength training routine traditional strength training routine where let's say you're working your where let's say you're working your where let's say you're working your whole body or maybe half your body or whole body or maybe half your body or whole body or maybe half your body or something like that, most people would something like that, most people would something like that, most people would do best by having more rest days than do best by having more rest days than do best by having more rest days than workout days. Okay? Okay, so if you look workout days. Okay? Okay, so if you look workout days. Okay? Okay, so if you look at your whole week, uh, 3 days working at your whole week, uh, 3 days working at your whole week, uh, 3 days working out, 4 days of rest for most people, out, 4 days of rest for most people, out, 4 days of rest for most people, this is a good formula. Now, you could this is a good formula. Now, you could this is a good formula. Now, you could also work out every day, but what it also work out every day, but what it also work out every day, but what it would look like is that same total would look like is that same total would look like is that same total volume spread out throughout the whole volume spread out throughout the whole volume spread out throughout the whole week. So, the three workout days, I week. So, the three workout days, I week. So, the three workout days, I would just take that what I'm doing each would just take that what I'm doing each would just take that what I'm doing each of those days and split it up over the of those days and split it up over the of those days and split it up over the five or six days. And so, I'm doing a five or six days. And so, I'm doing a five or six days. And so, I'm doing a little bit uh every day. This is what little bit uh every day. This is what little bit uh every day. This is what our MAPS 15 style workout programs uh our MAPS 15 style workout programs uh our MAPS 15 style workout programs uh look like. Mhm. look like. Mhm. look like. Mhm. >> These programs are essentially one or >> These programs are essentially one or >> These programs are essentially one or two lifts every day. So, you're working two lifts every day. So, you're working two lifts every day. So, you're working out every day, but it's so little uh out every day, but it's so little uh out every day, but it's so little uh that it doesn't overtrain you. And that it doesn't overtrain you. And that it doesn't overtrain you. And people get really good results uh people get really good results uh people get really good results uh following a routine like that. following a routine like that. following a routine like that. >> Just keep in mind that we don't we don't >> Just keep in mind that we don't we don't >> Just keep in mind that we don't we don't build muscle in the workout. That's the build muscle in the workout. That's the build muscle in the workout. That's the the signal. And if you train hard for an the signal. And if you train hard for an the signal. And if you train hard for an hour in a day is a loud signal to build hour in a day is a loud signal to build hour in a day is a loud signal to build muscle. It's the day off and the time muscle. It's the day off and the time muscle. It's the day off and the time that we rest and eat and recover that we that we rest and eat and recover that we that we rest and eat and recover that we build the muscle, build the muscle, build the muscle, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And so just kind of logically working >> And so just kind of logically working >> And so just kind of logically working through this. If you have a hard day of through this. If you have a hard day of through this. If you have a hard day of working out, you want at least a day of working out, you want at least a day of working out, you want at least a day of recovery for that. I would think at recovery for that. I would think at recovery for that. I would think at least that because that's where the least that because that's where the least that because that's where the muscle's being that's where the muscle muscle's being that's where the muscle muscle's being that's where the muscle is being made is in that recovery time, is being made is in that recovery time, is being made is in that recovery time, not from the hard workout. And I think not from the hard workout. And I think not from the hard workout. And I think this is the trap that so many people this is the trap that so many people this is the trap that so many people fall into is they attach the building fall into is they attach the building fall into is they attach the building muscle part to the actual training muscle part to the actual training muscle part to the actual training aspect. And so they think the more I do, aspect. And so they think the more I do, aspect. And so they think the more I do, the more muscle I'm going to build. And the more muscle I'm going to build. And the more muscle I'm going to build. And that's not true at all. If you if you're that's not true at all. If you if you're that's not true at all. If you if you're if you're training hard 5 days, six days if you're training hard 5 days, six days if you're training hard 5 days, six days a week, it doesn't give the body enough a week, it doesn't give the body enough a week, it doesn't give the body enough time to recover and adapt from all that time to recover and adapt from all that time to recover and adapt from all that training. So you get st it doesn't mean training. So you get st it doesn't mean training. So you get st it doesn't mean you can't be fit from that. You you'll you can't be fit from that. You you'll you can't be fit from that. You you'll get good at exercising that way. And I get good at exercising that way. And I get good at exercising that way. And I think this is also part of the trap is think this is also part of the trap is think this is also part of the trap is that you'll see yourself get good at that you'll see yourself get good at that you'll see yourself get good at doing that workout if you're doing it 5 doing that workout if you're doing it 5 doing that workout if you're doing it 5 days a week hard all the time. But the days a week hard all the time. But the days a week hard all the time. But the body will stop adapting and changing, body will stop adapting and changing, body will stop adapting and changing, which is what most people are chasing which is what most people are chasing which is what most people are chasing when they're strength training is trying when they're strength training is trying when they're strength training is trying to build or sculpt or change their body. to build or sculpt or change their body. to build or sculpt or change their body. And so And so And so >> it's just too much for most people. >> it's just too much for most people. >> it's just too much for most people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Next [snorts] question is from Abidnam >> Next [snorts] question is from Abidnam >> Next [snorts] question is from Abidnam 156. What should a freshly qualified PT 156. What should a freshly qualified PT 156. What should a freshly qualified PT do on their first day to gain clients, do on their first day to gain clients, do on their first day to gain clients, overcome fear of rejection, etc.? Uh overcome fear of rejection, etc.? Uh overcome fear of rejection, etc.? Uh this is it's the it's the simplest yet this is it's the it's the simplest yet this is it's the it's the simplest yet most difficult thing to do. So here's most difficult thing to do. So here's most difficult thing to do. So here's what you do. what you do. what you do. >> You're a brand new trainer. Go out into >> You're a brand new trainer. Go out into >> You're a brand new trainer. Go out into the gym and make friends with everybody. the gym and make friends with everybody. the gym and make friends with everybody. Talk with everybody all the time. First Talk with everybody all the time. First Talk with everybody all the time. First off, the only way that you'll overcome off, the only way that you'll overcome off, the only way that you'll overcome the fear of rejection is by getting the fear of rejection is by getting the fear of rejection is by getting rejected a lot and practicing and no and rejected a lot and practicing and no and rejected a lot and practicing and no and being okay with it. being okay with it. being okay with it. >> That's the only way you'll get you'll >> That's the only way you'll get you'll >> That's the only way you'll get you'll get rid of that. And to gain clients, if get rid of that. And to gain clients, if get rid of that. And to gain clients, if you become the mayor of your gym, uh you become the mayor of your gym, uh you become the mayor of your gym, uh this will make the odds uh or increase this will make the odds uh or increase this will make the odds uh or increase the odds you'll get clients the odds you'll get clients the odds you'll get clients dramatically. And this is how I would dramatically. And this is how I would dramatically. And this is how I would teach uh my trainers. Go out in the teach uh my trainers. Go out in the teach uh my trainers. Go out in the floor. Go talk to people. If I see you floor. Go talk to people. If I see you floor. Go talk to people. If I see you sitting around and not talking to sitting around and not talking to sitting around and not talking to somebody, you're going to be in trouble. somebody, you're going to be in trouble. somebody, you're going to be in trouble. Go talk to people. Spot people. Ask them Go talk to people. Spot people. Ask them Go talk to people. Spot people. Ask them about their day. See if you can wipe up about their day. See if you can wipe up about their day. See if you can wipe up after them. See if you could rack their after them. See if you could rack their after them. See if you could rack their equipment for them. Ask them about their equipment for them. Ask them about their equipment for them. Ask them about their day. See what's going on. What are they day. See what's going on. What are they day. See what's going on. What are they working on? Um just become friends with working on? Um just become friends with working on? Um just become friends with everybody in the gym. And once you do everybody in the gym. And once you do everybody in the gym. And once you do this, and it doesn't take much. If you this, and it doesn't take much. If you this, and it doesn't take much. If you did this over a couple weeks, before you did this over a couple weeks, before you did this over a couple weeks, before you know it, you're going to see a lot of know it, you're going to see a lot of know it, you're going to see a lot of regulars that know you and you're that regulars that know you and you're that regulars that know you and you're that guy or girl. uh makes get becoming guy or girl. uh makes get becoming guy or girl. uh makes get becoming >> that's the entire focus of the very >> that's the entire focus of the very >> that's the entire focus of the very beginning. I mean it's get out of your beginning. I mean it's get out of your beginning. I mean it's get out of your own comfort zone and be accessible uh own comfort zone and be accessible uh own comfort zone and be accessible uh and and be friendly and and try to meet and and be friendly and and try to meet and and be friendly and and try to meet as many people as possible within that as many people as possible within that as many people as possible within that built-in uh setting where it's like built-in uh setting where it's like built-in uh setting where it's like leads are everywhere. And if you start leads are everywhere. And if you start leads are everywhere. And if you start looking at it like that, it's like you, looking at it like that, it's like you, looking at it like that, it's like you, you know, you just start, you know, you know, you just start, you know, you know, you just start, you know, befriending everybody, eventually uh befriending everybody, eventually uh befriending everybody, eventually uh somebody's just going to approach you uh somebody's just going to approach you uh somebody's just going to approach you uh for help with something and and you'll for help with something and and you'll for help with something and and you'll help them and then word spreads and you help them and then word spreads and you help them and then word spreads and you built a business out of it. Well, built a business out of it. Well, built a business out of it. Well, another way to look at this is that if another way to look at this is that if another way to look at this is that if you're a brand new personal trainer, you you're a brand new personal trainer, you you're a brand new personal trainer, you are at the learn phase of your career, are at the learn phase of your career, are at the learn phase of your career, not the earn phase. And so, a majority not the earn phase. And so, a majority not the earn phase. And so, a majority of your focus is actually not of your focus is actually not of your focus is actually not necessarily on getting clients. It's necessarily on getting clients. It's necessarily on getting clients. It's actually just getting people in front of actually just getting people in front of actually just getting people in front of you. So, don't be afraid to take people you. So, don't be afraid to take people you. So, don't be afraid to take people for free. If you go if you have a a for free. If you go if you have a a for free. If you go if you have a a potential five or eight hour day you can potential five or eight hour day you can potential five or eight hour day you can work and you're not putting bodies in work and you're not putting bodies in work and you're not putting bodies in front of you for free, you're missing front of you for free, you're missing front of you for free, you're missing out on that all that time. You're out on that all that time. You're out on that all that time. You're wasting your time. wasting your time. wasting your time. >> Yeah. You need to be learning right now, >> Yeah. You need to be learning right now, >> Yeah. You need to be learning right now, getting good at your craft and your getting good at your craft and your getting good at your craft and your skill. And yes, it'd be nice to be skill. And yes, it'd be nice to be skill. And yes, it'd be nice to be getting paid from clients, stuff like getting paid from clients, stuff like getting paid from clients, stuff like that, but that's not the focus. The that, but that's not the focus. The that, but that's not the focus. The focus right now is the value of learning focus right now is the value of learning focus right now is the value of learning and practice and getting people in front and practice and getting people in front and practice and getting people in front of me. And so, I would rather not get of me. And so, I would rather not get of me. And so, I would rather not get paid and be practicing on a person in paid and be practicing on a person in paid and be practicing on a person in front of me than to be trying to get front of me than to be trying to get front of me than to be trying to get paid and not getting anybody in front of paid and not getting anybody in front of paid and not getting anybody in front of me. And so, focus more on the learn part me. And so, focus more on the learn part me. And so, focus more on the learn part of that is like I don't care if it's of that is like I don't care if it's of that is like I don't care if it's uncles, aunts, friends, cousins, you uncles, aunts, friends, cousins, you uncles, aunts, friends, cousins, you know, people that you just walk up to know, people that you just walk up to know, people that you just walk up to and like get people in front of you and and like get people in front of you and and like get people in front of you and practice your skills. through that practice your skills. through that practice your skills. through that you'll get good at prospecting, you'll you'll get good at prospecting, you'll you'll get good at prospecting, you'll get good at communicating, you'll get get good at communicating, you'll get get good at communicating, you'll get good at sales and so focus on the good at sales and so focus on the good at sales and so focus on the learning part of this this building learning part of this this building learning part of this this building phase and then the earn piece will come phase and then the earn piece will come phase and then the earn piece will come along. along. along. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Next question is from Miller Kev. I keep >> Next question is from Miller Kev. I keep >> Next question is from Miller Kev. I keep hearing that taking a GLP1 causes muscle hearing that taking a GLP1 causes muscle hearing that taking a GLP1 causes muscle loss. Is that loss greater than the loss loss. Is that loss greater than the loss loss. Is that loss greater than the loss of on any other calorierestricted diet? of on any other calorierestricted diet? of on any other calorierestricted diet? What does the research say? What does the research say? What does the research say? >> No, it's not more than the loss on a >> No, it's not more than the loss on a >> No, it's not more than the loss on a calorie restricted. There might actually calorie restricted. There might actually calorie restricted. There might actually be the research suggests there might be be the research suggests there might be be the research suggests there might be a muscle pres uh uh however minimal. a muscle pres uh uh however minimal. a muscle pres uh uh however minimal. >> Um so so to be clear GLP peptides um >> Um so so to be clear GLP peptides um >> Um so so to be clear GLP peptides um don't cause muscle loss. There is no don't cause muscle loss. There is no don't cause muscle loss. There is no mechanism by which they tell your body mechanism by which they tell your body mechanism by which they tell your body to burn muscle. There also really isn't to burn muscle. There also really isn't to burn muscle. There also really isn't a me mechanism that tells them uh to a me mechanism that tells them uh to a me mechanism that tells them uh to burn body fat. Now, I know they'll say burn body fat. Now, I know they'll say burn body fat. Now, I know they'll say um you know it stimulates this receptor um you know it stimulates this receptor um you know it stimulates this receptor which tells the liver to burn fat, which which tells the liver to burn fat, which which tells the liver to burn fat, which is true, and it does cause a reduction is true, and it does cause a reduction is true, and it does cause a reduction um in fatty liver through that process. um in fatty liver through that process. um in fatty liver through that process. But if you're not in a calorie deficit, But if you're not in a calorie deficit, But if you're not in a calorie deficit, nothing happens. So, if you take a GLP nothing happens. So, if you take a GLP nothing happens. So, if you take a GLP and you eat in a calorie surplus, you're and you eat in a calorie surplus, you're and you eat in a calorie surplus, you're not losing any body fat. What's not losing any body fat. What's not losing any body fat. What's happening, uh one of the main ways that happening, uh one of the main ways that happening, uh one of the main ways that it works, it's not the only way, it does it works, it's not the only way, it does it works, it's not the only way, it does other stuff, too, is that it causes you other stuff, too, is that it causes you other stuff, too, is that it causes you to eat less. to eat less. to eat less. >> Um and now, if you eat little enough and >> Um and now, if you eat little enough and >> Um and now, if you eat little enough and you don't strength train, you lose you don't strength train, you lose you don't strength train, you lose muscle. This is how your body adapts to muscle. This is how your body adapts to muscle. This is how your body adapts to a reduction in calories is it tries to a reduction in calories is it tries to a reduction in calories is it tries to slow down in essence its metabolism and slow down in essence its metabolism and slow down in essence its metabolism and muscle is expensive tissue. So it pairs muscle is expensive tissue. So it pairs muscle is expensive tissue. So it pairs it down. That's what's happening in the it down. That's what's happening in the it down. That's what's happening in the data. When you read the data that says data. When you read the data that says data. When you read the data that says 25 30% 40% of the weight loss came from 25 30% 40% of the weight loss came from 25 30% 40% of the weight loss came from muscle. What you're looking at is they muscle. What you're looking at is they muscle. What you're looking at is they took a GLP they ate substantially less took a GLP they ate substantially less took a GLP they ate substantially less calories. There was [clears throat] no calories. There was [clears throat] no calories. There was [clears throat] no strength training. They weren't hitting strength training. They weren't hitting strength training. They weren't hitting protein targets and so the body just protein targets and so the body just protein targets and so the body just tried to adapt to the low calories. I'll tried to adapt to the low calories. I'll tried to adapt to the low calories. I'll tell you why it's perceived that you tell you why it's perceived that you tell you why it's perceived that you lose more muscle on a GLP1 than the lose more muscle on a GLP1 than the lose more muscle on a GLP1 than the average diet is because if you take a average diet is because if you take a average diet is because if you take a client who let's say eats 3,000 plus client who let's say eats 3,000 plus client who let's say eats 3,000 plus calories on a regular basis and you ask calories on a regular basis and you ask calories on a regular basis and you ask them to restrict down to 2,000, that is them to restrict down to 2,000, that is them to restrict down to 2,000, that is like white knuckling for them to do like white knuckling for them to do like white knuckling for them to do that. And most people will fail and that. And most people will fail and that. And most people will fail and won't be able to do that. They'll either won't be able to do that. They'll either won't be able to do that. They'll either end up eating 2500 calories or they'll end up eating 2500 calories or they'll end up eating 2500 calories or they'll have some good days at at that 2,000 have some good days at at that 2,000 have some good days at at that 2,000 calories and then they'll overeat calories and then they'll overeat calories and then they'll overeat another day. And so when you think of another day. And so when you think of another day. And so when you think of someone who's typically dieting, that's someone who's typically dieting, that's someone who's typically dieting, that's kind of the patterns they fall on. You kind of the patterns they fall on. You kind of the patterns they fall on. You take somebody on a GLP1 and eating 1500 take somebody on a GLP1 and eating 1500 take somebody on a GLP1 and eating 1500 calories is easy. calories is easy. calories is easy. >> A thousand calories. >> A thousand calories. >> A thousand calories. >> So no restriction. This is why there's >> So no restriction. This is why there's >> So no restriction. This is why there's this perception of GLP1s make people this perception of GLP1s make people this perception of GLP1s make people lose muscle. It's like, no, GLP1s make lose muscle. It's like, no, GLP1s make lose muscle. It's like, no, GLP1s make eating very little food very easy. And eating very little food very easy. And eating very little food very easy. And so the person who would struggle to only so the person who would struggle to only so the person who would struggle to only eat 2,000 calories could easily only eat eat 2,000 calories could easily only eat eat 2,000 calories could easily only eat 1,500 and be consistent with that 1,500 and be consistent with that 1,500 and be consistent with that because of the GLP1. And so and that is because of the GLP1. And so and that is because of the GLP1. And so and that is a quick recipe for losing a ton of a quick recipe for losing a ton of a quick recipe for losing a ton of muscle. So this is why I think people muscle. So this is why I think people muscle. So this is why I think people think that is that oh my god GLP1 people think that is that oh my god GLP1 people think that is that oh my god GLP1 people make it makes you well no what it does make it makes you well no what it does make it makes you well no what it does is it makes eating hardly any calories is it makes eating hardly any calories is it makes eating hardly any calories really easy and if you eat hardly any really easy and if you eat hardly any really easy and if you eat hardly any calories consistently you will lose a calories consistently you will lose a calories consistently you will lose a ton of muscle. ton of muscle. ton of muscle. >> Next question is from casein malo23. >> Next question is from casein malo23. >> Next question is from casein malo23. When I was on bodybuilding prep eating When I was on bodybuilding prep eating When I was on bodybuilding prep eating the same meals every day at the same the same meals every day at the same the same meals every day at the same time it seemed to help keep my results time it seemed to help keep my results time it seemed to help keep my results steady. Now, outside of prep, if I want steady. Now, outside of prep, if I want steady. Now, outside of prep, if I want more variety in my diet, is it still all more variety in my diet, is it still all more variety in my diet, is it still all about calories in versus calories out, about calories in versus calories out, about calories in versus calories out, or does the body actually respond better or does the body actually respond better or does the body actually respond better to eating the same kinds of meals or to eating the same kinds of meals or to eating the same kinds of meals or sticking to consistent timing patterns sticking to consistent timing patterns sticking to consistent timing patterns even when I'm not in a strict cut? even when I'm not in a strict cut? even when I'm not in a strict cut? >> Okay, so physiologically speaking, uh >> Okay, so physiologically speaking, uh >> Okay, so physiologically speaking, uh there's really no difference here. Um there's really no difference here. Um there's really no difference here. Um but behaviorally and psychologically, but behaviorally and psychologically, but behaviorally and psychologically, there is a difference. So, we talk on there is a difference. So, we talk on there is a difference. So, we talk on the show about palletability, which uh the show about palletability, which uh the show about palletability, which uh plays a big role in how much you eat, plays a big role in how much you eat, plays a big role in how much you eat, right? If something's hyper palatable, right? If something's hyper palatable, right? If something's hyper palatable, you'll eat more of it than if it's not you'll eat more of it than if it's not you'll eat more of it than if it's not so palatable. Uh meal prepping or eating so palatable. Uh meal prepping or eating so palatable. Uh meal prepping or eating the same food every day reduces the same food every day reduces the same food every day reduces palatability. Even tasty meals are less palatability. Even tasty meals are less palatability. Even tasty meals are less palatable when there's less variety. palatable when there's less variety. palatable when there's less variety. Okay? Variety adds to palatability. So Okay? Variety adds to palatability. So Okay? Variety adds to palatability. So behaviorally speaking, eating a wide behaviorally speaking, eating a wide behaviorally speaking, eating a wide variety of foods and trying to stay variety of foods and trying to stay variety of foods and trying to stay within your macro and your calorie within your macro and your calorie within your macro and your calorie count, even if they're whole natural count, even if they're whole natural count, even if they're whole natural foods, it's going to be more difficult foods, it's going to be more difficult foods, it's going to be more difficult than eating the same thing every single than eating the same thing every single than eating the same thing every single day, all other things being equal. Not day, all other things being equal. Not day, all other things being equal. Not to mention, having a variety of foods to mention, having a variety of foods to mention, having a variety of foods makes it more difficult to track, you makes it more difficult to track, you makes it more difficult to track, you know, what you're eating and the right know, what you're eating and the right know, what you're eating and the right measurements and that kind of stuff. measurements and that kind of stuff. measurements and that kind of stuff. That being said, nobody wants to live uh That being said, nobody wants to live uh That being said, nobody wants to live uh where you eat the same food every single where you eat the same food every single where you eat the same food every single day. So, I'm not advocating for eat the day. So, I'm not advocating for eat the day. So, I'm not advocating for eat the same stuff all the time. I'm just same stuff all the time. I'm just same stuff all the time. I'm just letting you know the difference between letting you know the difference between letting you know the difference between the two. Variety will make it more the two. Variety will make it more the two. Variety will make it more difficult to eat the right amount of difficult to eat the right amount of difficult to eat the right amount of calories and proteins all the time. But calories and proteins all the time. But calories and proteins all the time. But it also variety, what they call the it also variety, what they call the it also variety, what they call the spice of life, it does make things a spice of life, it does make things a spice of life, it does make things a little bit more enjoyable. little bit more enjoyable. little bit more enjoyable. >> Stimulate uh your hunger as well. Like >> Stimulate uh your hunger as well. Like >> Stimulate uh your hunger as well. Like yeah, with that famous study where or yeah, with that famous study where or yeah, with that famous study where or was it a study or it was just an was it a study or it was just an was it a study or it was just an experiment where he was eating um ice experiment where he was eating um ice experiment where he was eating um ice cream out of Yeah. out of a sink and cream out of Yeah. out of a sink and cream out of Yeah. out of a sink and then had to have fries. uh which then then had to have fries. uh which then then had to have fries. uh which then restimulate his appetite to eat the rest restimulate his appetite to eat the rest restimulate his appetite to eat the rest of it. But yeah, so there's that kind of of it. But yeah, so there's that kind of of it. But yeah, so there's that kind of a factor that you have to consider that a factor that you have to consider that a factor that you have to consider that you know uh different types of foods you know uh different types of foods you know uh different types of foods will kind of like spark that um that will kind of like spark that um that will kind of like spark that um that hunger signal again. But um yeah, it's hunger signal again. But um yeah, it's hunger signal again. But um yeah, it's it'd be unreasonable to think like I'm it'd be unreasonable to think like I'm it'd be unreasonable to think like I'm just going to eat the same bland, you just going to eat the same bland, you just going to eat the same bland, you know, [snorts] know, [snorts] know, [snorts] food [clears throat] sequence like to food [clears throat] sequence like to food [clears throat] sequence like to eternity. My advice uh for a person like eternity. My advice uh for a person like eternity. My advice uh for a person like this is and it's funny you brought this this is and it's funny you brought this this is and it's funny you brought this question up and I I just brought this up question up and I I just brought this up question up and I I just brought this up earlier was talking about the anchor earlier was talking about the anchor earlier was talking about the anchor meals. Yeah. meals. Yeah. meals. Yeah. >> Like if you're somebody who has >> Like if you're somebody who has >> Like if you're somebody who has experienced bodybuilding prep and you experienced bodybuilding prep and you experienced bodybuilding prep and you see the value of man eating the same see the value of man eating the same see the value of man eating the same thing consistently at the same time and thing consistently at the same time and thing consistently at the same time and all that like that which uh I can all that like that which uh I can all that like that which uh I can totally attest. I see it. I saw the totally attest. I see it. I saw the totally attest. I see it. I saw the value in it too. It helped me stay super value in it too. It helped me stay super value in it too. It helped me stay super consistent and dialed and all these consistent and dialed and all these consistent and dialed and all these great things. At the same time I do not great things. At the same time I do not great things. At the same time I do not want to be weighing, measuring, prepping want to be weighing, measuring, prepping want to be weighing, measuring, prepping food for the rest of my life. uh food for the rest of my life. uh food for the rest of my life. uh forever. That's just ridiculous. And so forever. That's just ridiculous. And so forever. That's just ridiculous. And so what does that happy medium looks like what does that happy medium looks like what does that happy medium looks like for me? Well, what it looks like is I for me? Well, what it looks like is I for me? Well, what it looks like is I prep uh my anchor meals just it's not a prep uh my anchor meals just it's not a prep uh my anchor meals just it's not a ridiculous amount. It's nowhere near ridiculous amount. It's nowhere near ridiculous amount. It's nowhere near what coffee and I'm also not even by the what coffee and I'm also not even by the what coffee and I'm also not even by the way measuring to the tea. I know what way measuring to the tea. I know what way measuring to the tea. I know what about a cup looks like. I know what about a cup looks like. I know what about a cup looks like. I know what about 6 to8 ounces look like. And so I about 6 to8 ounces look like. And so I about 6 to8 ounces look like. And so I am cooking enough meals that cover where am cooking enough meals that cover where am cooking enough meals that cover where for me that's like my first my breakfast for me that's like my first my breakfast for me that's like my first my breakfast and my my lunch that I'll have here. So, and my my lunch that I'll have here. So, and my my lunch that I'll have here. So, if I got those two covered, I can always if I got those two covered, I can always if I got those two covered, I can always get you, you know, a crisp power snack get you, you know, a crisp power snack get you, you know, a crisp power snack and a protein bar in between and then I and a protein bar in between and then I and a protein bar in between and then I make dinner at night. Like, that's that make dinner at night. Like, that's that make dinner at night. Like, that's that makes life so easy for me to stay within makes life so easy for me to stay within makes life so easy for me to stay within my kind of boundaries. And then also my kind of boundaries. And then also my kind of boundaries. And then also have variety. Dinner is always being have variety. Dinner is always being have variety. Dinner is always being cooked differently by my wife and it's a cooked differently by my wife and it's a cooked differently by my wife and it's a different thing every single week. And different thing every single week. And different thing every single week. And so, there's variety there. Uh, I can so, there's variety there. Uh, I can so, there's variety there. Uh, I can choose the different things that I like choose the different things that I like choose the different things that I like to snack on in between there. So, that's to snack on in between there. So, that's to snack on in between there. So, that's variety there. But, I have this for the variety there. But, I have this for the variety there. But, I have this for the week. I've got these two meals that are week. I've got these two meals that are week. I've got these two meals that are very boring and the same thing, but so very boring and the same thing, but so very boring and the same thing, but so it kind of gives me this happy medium. it kind of gives me this happy medium. it kind of gives me this happy medium. >> That's how I eat. I I I'd say it >> That's how I eat. I I I'd say it >> That's how I eat. I I I'd say it probably be a good idea like 80%, you probably be a good idea like 80%, you probably be a good idea like 80%, you know, kind of prepped, same stuff. 20% know, kind of prepped, same stuff. 20% know, kind of prepped, same stuff. 20% have the variety through. That's exactly have the variety through. That's exactly have the variety through. That's exactly how I eat, Adam. It's like I have my how I eat, Adam. It's like I have my how I eat, Adam. It's like I have my specific meals you see when I eat here. specific meals you see when I eat here. specific meals you see when I eat here. And then 20% of the time, uh, there's And then 20% of the time, uh, there's And then 20% of the time, uh, there's some variety in there. some variety in there. some variety in there. >> Yeah. I'm probably 50/50. I'm probably >> Yeah. I'm probably 50/50. I'm probably >> Yeah. I'm probably 50/50. I'm probably I'm not I don't know. I wouldn't even I'm not I don't know. I wouldn't even I'm not I don't know. I wouldn't even say I've got 80% prep. I wouldn't give say I've got 80% prep. I wouldn't give say I've got 80% prep. I wouldn't give myself that credit. I have just I have myself that credit. I have just I have myself that credit. I have just I have enough prep. The way I look at it is I enough prep. The way I look at it is I enough prep. The way I look at it is I prep enough because I know my own prep enough because I know my own prep enough because I know my own behaviors and habits. I know that if I behaviors and habits. I know that if I behaviors and habits. I know that if I don't have my first meal here prepped, don't have my first meal here prepped, don't have my first meal here prepped, either one, not eat completely and go either one, not eat completely and go either one, not eat completely and go and then I'll eat something, have a bad and then I'll eat something, have a bad and then I'll eat something, have a bad choice. choice. choice. >> Um, or I'll door dash something uh >> Um, or I'll door dash something uh >> Um, or I'll door dash something uh that's not a good choice or is that's not a good choice or is that's not a good choice or is ridiculously expensive, which is part of ridiculously expensive, which is part of ridiculously expensive, which is part of what motivated me to get back on it. And what motivated me to get back on it. And what motivated me to get back on it. And so I I know that's my So I would look at so I I know that's my So I would look at so I I know that's my So I would look at my my client or I have my client like my my client or I have my client like my my client or I have my client like look at your diet. Where are your most look at your diet. Where are your most look at your diet. Where are your most challenging meals? That could be one, it challenging meals? That could be one, it challenging meals? That could be one, it could be two, maybe it's three, I don't could be two, maybe it's three, I don't could be two, maybe it's three, I don't know, but whatever that is, it's like, know, but whatever that is, it's like, know, but whatever that is, it's like, okay, have those prepared. Then the okay, have those prepared. Then the okay, have those prepared. Then the rest, you can figure that out. And so it rest, you can figure that out. And so it rest, you can figure that out. And so it looks like about half and half for me is looks like about half and half for me is looks like about half and half for me is is prep. The other half is on the fly. is prep. The other half is on the fly. is prep. The other half is on the fly. But on the fly, I can make the choices. But on the fly, I can make the choices. But on the fly, I can make the choices. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. [music] If you did, check this one out. [music] If you did, check this one out. [music] If you did, check this one out. Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit body fat. body fat. body fat. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about it. it. it. >> Difficult. 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