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If you're doing Pilates because you want If you're doing Pilates because you want a tight sculpted body, stop. You're a tight sculpted body, stop. You're a tight sculpted body, stop. You're doing it wrong. It's the wrong kind of doing it wrong. It's the wrong kind of doing it wrong. It's the wrong kind of workout. workout. workout. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's why everybody's there. Should I >> That's why everybody's there. Should I >> That's why everybody's there. Should I start a war today? start a war today? start a war today? >> Again, I'm just trying to be more >> Again, I'm just trying to be more >> Again, I'm just trying to be more confrontational like you recommended us. >> That's all right. >> That's all right. >> Isn't this what you said yesterday? >> Isn't this what you said yesterday? >> Isn't this what you said yesterday? >> Let's talk about Pilates, though, cuz uh >> Let's talk about Pilates, though, cuz uh >> Let's talk about Pilates, though, cuz uh it is um it's a popular form of it is um it's a popular form of it is um it's a popular form of exercise. exercise. exercise. >> It's really popular and >> It's really popular and >> It's really popular and >> and it's growing in popularity. Yeah, >> and it's growing in popularity. Yeah, >> and it's growing in popularity. Yeah, it's growing in popularity and part of it's growing in popularity and part of it's growing in popularity and part of the reason why it's popular is because the reason why it's popular is because the reason why it's popular is because uh the people who represent it in media uh the people who represent it in media uh the people who represent it in media look a particular way. So most people look a particular way. So most people look a particular way. So most people who do Pilates who do Pilates who do Pilates do it because they want to accomplish a do it because they want to accomplish a do it because they want to accomplish a certain look, not because they want to certain look, not because they want to certain look, not because they want to get good at Pilates or even uh because get good at Pilates or even uh because get good at Pilates or even uh because they're in dance, let's say, for they're in dance, let's say, for they're in dance, let's say, for example, which is kind of the roots of example, which is kind of the roots of example, which is kind of the roots of it. Mhm. it. Mhm. it. Mhm. >> It's because they're led to believe that >> It's because they're led to believe that >> It's because they're led to believe that it produces kind of this body that looks it produces kind of this body that looks it produces kind of this body that looks long and lean that gives you this kind long and lean that gives you this kind long and lean that gives you this kind of sculpt, not bulky look. This is uh of sculpt, not bulky look. This is uh of sculpt, not bulky look. This is uh again quote that you'll hear uh for again quote that you'll hear uh for again quote that you'll hear uh for people who follow it. people who follow it. people who follow it. >> Is this like taking over the popularity >> Is this like taking over the popularity >> Is this like taking over the popularity of yoga to Adam was talking about this of yoga to Adam was talking about this of yoga to Adam was talking about this earlier? Blame me. earlier? Blame me. earlier? Blame me. >> Yeah. Like this is this is the new yoga >> Yeah. Like this is this is the new yoga >> Yeah. Like this is this is the new yoga dude. Really? I guess so. dude. Really? I guess so. dude. Really? I guess so. >> Yeah. So here's the thing. So this is >> Yeah. So here's the thing. So this is >> Yeah. So here's the thing. So this is this is how I would I would say this is this is how I would I would say this is this is how I would I would say this is that um Pilates is awesome. Uh like a that um Pilates is awesome. Uh like a that um Pilates is awesome. Uh like a fork, a spoon or a knife would be. fork, a spoon or a knife would be. fork, a spoon or a knife would be. >> It's just the wrong job for somebody who >> It's just the wrong job for somebody who >> It's just the wrong job for somebody who has a goal of I want to build a body has a goal of I want to build a body has a goal of I want to build a body that looks this way, that looks this way, that looks this way, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> So I think tool >> So I think tool >> So I think tool >> Yeah. I think Pilates is awesome. It has >> Yeah. I think Pilates is awesome. It has >> Yeah. I think Pilates is awesome. It has lots of benefits to it. Um, but what lots of benefits to it. Um, but what lots of benefits to it. Um, but what happens is to the angle you were going, happens is to the angle you were going, happens is to the angle you were going, which is it's been, you know, there's which is it's been, you know, there's which is it's been, you know, there's the people that have marketed have a the people that have marketed have a the people that have marketed have a look. This is very similar to what look. This is very similar to what look. This is very similar to what happened with CrossFit. happened with CrossFit. happened with CrossFit. >> You know, we saw these athletes with >> You know, we saw these athletes with >> You know, we saw these athletes with just crazy physiques and bodies with just crazy physiques and bodies with just crazy physiques and bodies with their shirts off competing and it was their shirts off competing and it was their shirts off competing and it was like, I want to look like that, like, I want to look like that, like, I want to look like that, therefore I do CrossFit. And so you have therefore I do CrossFit. And so you have therefore I do CrossFit. And so you have these gorgeous long lean bodies that do these gorgeous long lean bodies that do these gorgeous long lean bodies that do Pilates that market it and it's like, Pilates that market it and it's like, Pilates that market it and it's like, "Oh, I want to look that way, so I "Oh, I want to look that way, so I "Oh, I want to look that way, so I should do Pilates." Listen, if you have should do Pilates." Listen, if you have should do Pilates." Listen, if you have aesthetic goals and you want to sculpt a aesthetic goals and you want to sculpt a aesthetic goals and you want to sculpt a physique, you want to build a body, it's physique, you want to build a body, it's physique, you want to build a body, it's a terrible tool. a terrible tool. a terrible tool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's a And terrible meaning there's a >> It's a And terrible meaning there's a >> It's a And terrible meaning there's a bunch of other better ways to go about bunch of other better ways to go about bunch of other better ways to go about it than that. Doesn't mean it's not it than that. Doesn't mean it's not it than that. Doesn't mean it's not possible. doesn't mean you can't eat in possible. doesn't mean you can't eat in possible. doesn't mean you can't eat in a diet in which you build a little bit a diet in which you build a little bit a diet in which you build a little bit of muscle and you stay lean enough to of muscle and you stay lean enough to of muscle and you stay lean enough to see that muscle uh doing a form of see that muscle uh doing a form of see that muscle uh doing a form of movement like that. Uh yeah, of course, movement like that. Uh yeah, of course, movement like that. Uh yeah, of course, of course you can, but it's definitely of course you can, but it's definitely of course you can, but it's definitely not the best tool for the job. There's not the best tool for the job. There's not the best tool for the job. There's far better tools for the job. And so far better tools for the job. And so far better tools for the job. And so that would be my thing to ask the person that would be my thing to ask the person that would be my thing to ask the person who says, "I love it. I want to do it." who says, "I love it. I want to do it." who says, "I love it. I want to do it." Is like, "Oh, cool. Well, if you love it Is like, "Oh, cool. Well, if you love it Is like, "Oh, cool. Well, if you love it and you want to do it and you're happy and you want to do it and you're happy and you want to do it and you're happy where you're at, keep on doing it." But where you're at, keep on doing it." But where you're at, keep on doing it." But if you said to me, "Adam, I want to look if you said to me, "Adam, I want to look if you said to me, "Adam, I want to look this way or I want to lose this body fat this way or I want to lose this body fat this way or I want to lose this body fat or like" and you're like, "And my or like" and you're like, "And my or like" and you're like, "And my girlfriend does Pilates and she says girlfriend does Pilates and she says girlfriend does Pilates and she says it's amazing." I would say, "Okay, it's amazing." I would say, "Okay, it's amazing." I would say, "Okay, cool." Do you love that already? Cuz if cool." Do you love that already? Cuz if cool." Do you love that already? Cuz if you don't, it's not the best tool about you don't, it's not the best tool about you don't, it's not the best tool about about going there. about going there. about going there. >> Yeah. Well, let's back up for a second. >> Yeah. Well, let's back up for a second. >> Yeah. Well, let's back up for a second. So, um, the the the selling point of So, um, the the the selling point of So, um, the the the selling point of long lean looking muscles. Well, first long lean looking muscles. Well, first long lean looking muscles. Well, first of all, lean is a result of a particular of all, lean is a result of a particular of all, lean is a result of a particular body fat percentage that can be body fat percentage that can be body fat percentage that can be accomplished through diet. Okay? long. accomplished through diet. Okay? long. accomplished through diet. Okay? long. Uh you can't change your muscle Uh you can't change your muscle Uh you can't change your muscle insertions or or origins. It no matter insertions or or origins. It no matter insertions or or origins. It no matter there's no form of exercise that changes there's no form of exercise that changes there's no form of exercise that changes that. You'd have to have surgery where that. You'd have to have surgery where that. You'd have to have surgery where somebody would remove the insertion and somebody would remove the insertion and somebody would remove the insertion and apply it somewhere else. So your muscle apply it somewhere else. So your muscle apply it somewhere else. So your muscle length is determined by your genetics. length is determined by your genetics. length is determined by your genetics. It's what you're born with. Muscle shape It's what you're born with. Muscle shape It's what you're born with. Muscle shape is largely determined by how much muscle is largely determined by how much muscle is largely determined by how much muscle you build. Now larger muscles you can you build. Now larger muscles you can you build. Now larger muscles you can shape to an extent uh through targeted shape to an extent uh through targeted shape to an extent uh through targeted uh strength training, but it all comes uh strength training, but it all comes uh strength training, but it all comes from building. So, all of it's building from building. So, all of it's building from building. So, all of it's building muscle. Uh, you know, when people say muscle. Uh, you know, when people say muscle. Uh, you know, when people say tone or sculpt or firm, they're just tone or sculpt or firm, they're just tone or sculpt or firm, they're just using different words to explain what using different words to explain what using different words to explain what happens when you build muscle. As you happens when you build muscle. As you happens when you build muscle. As you build muscle, it feels tighter. It feels build muscle, it feels tighter. It feels build muscle, it feels tighter. It feels firmer. It feels more toned. It's just firmer. It feels more toned. It's just firmer. It feels more toned. It's just the beginning stages of building. Now, the beginning stages of building. Now, the beginning stages of building. Now, if you build a lot of muscle, then you if you build a lot of muscle, then you if you build a lot of muscle, then you get big muscles, but that's not a get big muscles, but that's not a get big muscles, but that's not a problem. We know that you can strength problem. We know that you can strength problem. We know that you can strength train all you want. uh especially as a train all you want. uh especially as a train all you want. uh especially as a female, you're not going to get uh huge female, you're not going to get uh huge female, you're not going to get uh huge big muscles unless you are the, you big muscles unless you are the, you big muscles unless you are the, you know, 0.0001% of the population andor know, 0.0001% of the population andor know, 0.0001% of the population andor use anabolic steroids. Otherwise, it's use anabolic steroids. Otherwise, it's use anabolic steroids. Otherwise, it's just not going to happen. So, if you're just not going to happen. So, if you're just not going to happen. So, if you're if you're exercising in the pursuit of a if you're exercising in the pursuit of a if you're exercising in the pursuit of a look, which you know can be defined as look, which you know can be defined as look, which you know can be defined as sculpted, sculpted, sculpted, uh toned, firm, good shape. Uh, uh toned, firm, good shape. Uh, uh toned, firm, good shape. Uh, traditional strength training will will traditional strength training will will traditional strength training will will not only will it get you there, whereas not only will it get you there, whereas not only will it get you there, whereas Pilates probably won't. It'll get you Pilates probably won't. It'll get you Pilates probably won't. It'll get you there way faster, like way faster. It's there way faster, like way faster. It's there way faster, like way faster. It's like trying to dig a a huge hole with a like trying to dig a a huge hole with a like trying to dig a a huge hole with a spoon versus a backhoe. That's the spoon versus a backhoe. That's the spoon versus a backhoe. That's the difference in the speed at which you're difference in the speed at which you're difference in the speed at which you're going to accomplish uh these results. going to accomplish uh these results. going to accomplish uh these results. Now, as far as just the form of Now, as far as just the form of Now, as far as just the form of activity, activity, activity, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> you know, if you're seditary and you >> you know, if you're seditary and you >> you know, if you're seditary and you want to do a form of activity and you want to do a form of activity and you want to do a form of activity and you just so happen to love the Pilates class just so happen to love the Pilates class just so happen to love the Pilates class or the instructor or you love a reformer or the instructor or you love a reformer or the instructor or you love a reformer and you're like, "Look, it doesn't and you're like, "Look, it doesn't and you're like, "Look, it doesn't really matter to me if it's not the most really matter to me if it's not the most really matter to me if it's not the most effective way to look a particular way. effective way to look a particular way. effective way to look a particular way. I don't care. I just want to move. I I don't care. I just want to move. I I don't care. I just want to move. I just need to be active and I enjoy doing just need to be active and I enjoy doing just need to be active and I enjoy doing Pilates." Go for it. Pilates." Go for it. Pilates." Go for it. >> Absolutely. Let's just say we're looking >> Absolutely. Let's just say we're looking >> Absolutely. Let's just say we're looking at it completely as its own tool, its at it completely as its own tool, its at it completely as its own tool, its own specific focus. Like would you say own specific focus. Like would you say own specific focus. Like would you say like more of its core emphasis and like more of its core emphasis and like more of its core emphasis and training would be its major benefit that training would be its major benefit that training would be its major benefit that it provides? Like what's the overall it provides? Like what's the overall it provides? Like what's the overall >> like what are you going to get benefit >> like what are you going to get benefit >> like what are you going to get benefit from the class that you're going to from the class that you're going to from the class that you're going to experience? experience? experience? >> You're going to get good end range >> You're going to get good end range >> You're going to get good end range stability. Uh you're going to stability. Uh you're going to stability. Uh you're going to >> like muscle connectivity. >> like muscle connectivity. >> like muscle connectivity. >> You're going to get good at Pilates >> You're going to get good at Pilates >> You're going to get good at Pilates movements. So when you look at Pilates movements. So when you look at Pilates movements. So when you look at Pilates movements, uh many of them uh mimic what movements, uh many of them uh mimic what movements, uh many of them uh mimic what you would see and I'm I'm just this is you would see and I'm I'm just this is you would see and I'm I'm just this is just for lack of a better term. The type just for lack of a better term. The type just for lack of a better term. The type of movement would look it appears uh of movement would look it appears uh of movement would look it appears uh almost like uh like the kind of lines a almost like uh like the kind of lines a almost like uh like the kind of lines a dancer would look for, dancer would look for, dancer would look for, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Yeah. So, um, when you're looking at a >> Yeah. So, um, when you're looking at a >> Yeah. So, um, when you're looking at a dancer and the way they move, the way dancer and the way they move, the way dancer and the way they move, the way they keep their long lines, uh, with they keep their long lines, uh, with they keep their long lines, uh, with long lines just means you have your toe long lines just means you have your toe long lines just means you have your toe point, you have your leg out, you're point, you have your leg out, you're point, you have your leg out, you're holding a particular posture, you're holding a particular posture, you're holding a particular posture, you're moving, you'll get good at being able to moving, you'll get good at being able to moving, you'll get good at being able to move like that because that's what move like that because that's what move like that because that's what Pilates is. Pilates is. Pilates is. >> What's the origin of Pilates? >> What's the origin of Pilates? >> What's the origin of Pilates? >> The origin is uh, from dance is from >> The origin is uh, from dance is from >> The origin is uh, from dance is from ballet. ballet. ballet. >> So, is it like literally a Douglas? Is >> So, is it like literally a Douglas? Is >> So, is it like literally a Douglas? Is it literally a ballet dancer who it's it literally a ballet dancer who it's it literally a ballet dancer who it's famous from who created it? Is it like famous from who created it? Is it like famous from who created it? Is it like >> loosely? Loosely. Uh but that style of >> loosely? Loosely. Uh but that style of >> loosely? Loosely. Uh but that style of exercise uh was used for well give give exercise uh was used for well give give exercise uh was used for well give give me the origin. me the origin. me the origin. >> Yeah. So originated in World War I uh >> Yeah. So originated in World War I uh >> Yeah. So originated in World War I uh developed by a German physical trainer developed by a German physical trainer developed by a German physical trainer Joseph Pilates while intern in a British Joseph Pilates while intern in a British Joseph Pilates while intern in a British camp um controlly was the original name camp um controlly was the original name camp um controlly was the original name but it's uh used for yoga, martial arts, but it's uh used for yoga, martial arts, but it's uh used for yoga, martial arts, gymnastics etc etc. So I I don't see the gymnastics etc etc. So I I don't see the gymnastics etc etc. So I I don't see the dance connection. dance connection. dance connection. >> No the dance connection is I say loosely >> No the dance connection is I say loosely >> No the dance connection is I say loosely because that's where it started to get because that's where it started to get because that's where it started to get popular. popular. popular. >> Yeah. Um, but again, you're going to get >> Yeah. Um, but again, you're going to get >> Yeah. Um, but again, you're going to get end range of motion stability, very end range of motion stability, very end range of motion stability, very short movements. Uh, with short movements. Uh, with short movements. Uh, with >> I'd probably also argue uh um I I mean, >> I'd probably also argue uh um I I mean, >> I'd probably also argue uh um I I mean, again, Doug could probably Google this, again, Doug could probably Google this, again, Doug could probably Google this, too. Uh, there's probably not a lot of too. Uh, there's probably not a lot of too. Uh, there's probably not a lot of injuries injuries injuries >> that happen from Pilates. It's a safe >> that happen from Pilates. It's a safe >> that happen from Pilates. It's a safe it's a safe form. It has a a natural it's a safe form. It has a a natural it's a safe form. It has a a natural limiter like calisthenics do, limiter like calisthenics do, limiter like calisthenics do, >> right? Like doing cal, it's not that you >> right? Like doing cal, it's not that you >> right? Like doing cal, it's not that you can't be injured. Everybody can be can't be injured. Everybody can be can't be injured. Everybody can be injured doing anything, right? You can injured doing anything, right? You can injured doing anything, right? You can be injured walking. Uh but I would think be injured walking. Uh but I would think be injured walking. Uh but I would think that it has a low injury rate because of that it has a low injury rate because of that it has a low injury rate because of its uh in comparison its uh in comparison its uh in comparison >> in comparison there are >> in comparison there are >> in comparison there are >> which by the way uh just like with >> which by the way uh just like with >> which by the way uh just like with anything the higher the risk the higher anything the higher the risk the higher anything the higher the risk the higher reward normally with a lot of stuff and reward normally with a lot of stuff and reward normally with a lot of stuff and so there's very low risk probably so there's very low risk probably so there's very low risk probably >> that's a good it's a good it's a good >> that's a good it's a good it's a good >> that's a good it's a good it's a good question because you look at different question because you look at different question because you look at different forms of um exercise and and I'll say forms of um exercise and and I'll say forms of um exercise and and I'll say this about strength training strength this about strength training strength this about strength training strength training um is really just uh how you're training um is really just uh how you're training um is really just uh how you're applying resistance rest periods the applying resistance rest periods the applying resistance rest periods the goal to build muscle it could look very goal to build muscle it could look very goal to build muscle it could look very different because there's so many different because there's so many different because there's so many different exercises uh and applications. different exercises uh and applications. different exercises uh and applications. Pilates is a style. Yoga is a style. Pilates is a style. Yoga is a style. Pilates is a style. Yoga is a style. Like you know Pilates when you see it. Like you know Pilates when you see it. Like you know Pilates when you see it. Strength training can be correctional Strength training can be correctional Strength training can be correctional exercise, bodybuilding can be exercise, bodybuilding can be exercise, bodybuilding can be powerlifting can be athletic um minded. powerlifting can be athletic um minded. powerlifting can be athletic um minded. Um it's just the goal is to build Um it's just the goal is to build Um it's just the goal is to build strength and build muscle. Um as far as strength and build muscle. Um as far as strength and build muscle. Um as far as injuries are concerned, the ones that injuries are concerned, the ones that injuries are concerned, the ones that it's it is low injury. Uh but the it's it is low injury. Uh but the it's it is low injury. Uh but the characteristic injuries of Pilates tend characteristic injuries of Pilates tend characteristic injuries of Pilates tend to be low back uh focused. uh typically to be low back uh focused. uh typically to be low back uh focused. uh typically soaz, you know, syndrome or or or soaz, you know, syndrome or or or soaz, you know, syndrome or or or pulling of the hip flexors that where pulling of the hip flexors that where pulling of the hip flexors that where where they attach. where they attach. where they attach. >> Did you look that up, Doug? Or no? >> Did you look that up, Doug? Or no? >> Did you look that up, Doug? Or no? >> Yeah, I'm I'm just digging through this. >> Yeah, I'm I'm just digging through this. >> Yeah, I'm I'm just digging through this. Um yeah, I'm not giving you any good Um yeah, I'm not giving you any good Um yeah, I'm not giving you any good answers here, answers here, answers here, >> but but you know, it's getting marketed >> but but you know, it's getting marketed >> but but you know, it's getting marketed especially to women as uh this like way especially to women as uh this like way especially to women as uh this like way of exercising to accomplish this look, of exercising to accomplish this look, of exercising to accomplish this look, >> to achieve a certain body look and >> to achieve a certain body look and >> to achieve a certain body look and aesthetic. Yeah. aesthetic. Yeah. aesthetic. Yeah. >> That's right. And it's not going to get >> That's right. And it's not going to get >> That's right. And it's not going to get you there. you there. you there. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Or or if it does, it'll get you there >> Or or if it does, it'll get you there >> Or or if it does, it'll get you there real slow. I mean, it's not much. It's real slow. I mean, it's not much. It's real slow. I mean, it's not much. It's not different than the and we all had not different than the and we all had not different than the and we all had this uh client who this uh client who this uh client who you know was in good shape, played you know was in good shape, played you know was in good shape, played basketball four days a week, loved basketball four days a week, loved basketball four days a week, loved pickup ball and stuff like that and I pickup ball and stuff like that and I pickup ball and stuff like that and I said, you know, I want to I want to said, you know, I want to I want to said, you know, I want to I want to build my delts and my chest, but I love build my delts and my chest, but I love build my delts and my chest, but I love playing basketball. And it's like, well, playing basketball. And it's like, well, playing basketball. And it's like, well, >> if you want to do that, then our >> if you want to do that, then our >> if you want to do that, then our training looks totally different than training looks totally different than training looks totally different than what you're doing right now. But if you what you're doing right now. But if you what you're doing right now. But if you just want to continue to be in shape, I just want to continue to be in shape, I just want to continue to be in shape, I love what you're doing. Yeah. keep love what you're doing. Yeah. keep love what you're doing. Yeah. keep playing basketball, moving all different playing basketball, moving all different playing basketball, moving all different kind of planes and you jump and it's kind of planes and you jump and it's kind of planes and you jump and it's keeping your your body fat percentage keeping your your body fat percentage keeping your your body fat percentage down and totally nothing wrong with down and totally nothing wrong with down and totally nothing wrong with continuing to go about that modality in continuing to go about that modality in continuing to go about that modality in order to stay fit and healthy. Uh it's order to stay fit and healthy. Uh it's order to stay fit and healthy. Uh it's enough stimulus for the muscles that enough stimulus for the muscles that enough stimulus for the muscles that they're not going to atrophy on you, but they're not going to atrophy on you, but they're not going to atrophy on you, but you're not going to build a body uh that you're not going to build a body uh that you're not going to build a body uh that you're asking from me through that that you're asking from me through that that you're asking from me through that that modality. And so this is Pilates in that modality. And so this is Pilates in that modality. And so this is Pilates in that sense where it's like if you are fit or sense where it's like if you are fit or sense where it's like if you are fit or you like doing something and it keeps you like doing something and it keeps you like doing something and it keeps you healthy then I'm all you healthy then I'm all you healthy then I'm all >> I do I do got to say I've said this >> I do I do got to say I've said this >> I do I do got to say I've said this before on so many other podcasts is I before on so many other podcasts is I before on so many other podcasts is I often do these circuits where I get on often do these circuits where I get on often do these circuits where I get on these other shows and my favorite shows these other shows and my favorite shows these other shows and my favorite shows well I like them all but the ones I tend well I like them all but the ones I tend well I like them all but the ones I tend to uh you know do well on are these to uh you know do well on are these to uh you know do well on are these these um like female wellness kind of these um like female wellness kind of these um like female wellness kind of influencer podcasts where they have a influencer podcasts where they have a influencer podcasts where they have a large audience of uh women in their 20s large audience of uh women in their 20s large audience of uh women in their 20s and 30s who are looking into fitness and and 30s who are looking into fitness and and 30s who are looking into fitness and wellness and I I tell you what, man. wellness and I I tell you what, man. wellness and I I tell you what, man. Women in general uh get hammered with Women in general uh get hammered with Women in general uh get hammered with such terrible everybody does in the such terrible everybody does in the such terrible everybody does in the fitness industry. This the marketing fitness industry. This the marketing fitness industry. This the marketing with fitness industry is just with fitness industry is just with fitness industry is just ridiculous. But it's it really targets ridiculous. But it's it really targets ridiculous. But it's it really targets women and lies to them. And what it does women and lies to them. And what it does women and lies to them. And what it does is it's it's saying this essentially, is it's it's saying this essentially, is it's it's saying this essentially, you don't want to look like a you don't want to look like a you don't want to look like a bodybuilder, do you? bodybuilder, do you? bodybuilder, do you? >> I know >> I know >> I know >> this form of exercise, look at it. >> this form of exercise, look at it. >> this form of exercise, look at it. Doesn't it look feminine? Doesn't it look feminine? Doesn't it look feminine? >> It's always the comparison. >> It's always the comparison. >> It's always the comparison. >> Isn't it look feminine? It's going to >> Isn't it look feminine? It's going to >> Isn't it look feminine? It's going to create these long lean. And by the way, create these long lean. And by the way, create these long lean. And by the way, when you watch someone do Pilates who's when you watch someone do Pilates who's when you watch someone do Pilates who's fit, the movement of Pilates looks fit, the movement of Pilates looks fit, the movement of Pilates looks amazing, it does seem to appeal to that amazing, it does seem to appeal to that amazing, it does seem to appeal to that kind of feminine energy. kind of feminine energy. kind of feminine energy. >> Well, it is movement focused, >> Well, it is movement focused, >> Well, it is movement focused, >> right? So, when you see it, you look at >> right? So, when you see it, you look at >> right? So, when you see it, you look at it, you go, "Oh, yeah. That's I think it, you go, "Oh, yeah. That's I think it, you go, "Oh, yeah. That's I think what I want to do." But I'm going to what I want to do." But I'm going to what I want to do." But I'm going to tell you ladies right now, look, if you tell you ladies right now, look, if you tell you ladies right now, look, if you love Pilates, you love the skill, you love Pilates, you love the skill, you love Pilates, you love the skill, you love you enjoy it, you want to be love you enjoy it, you want to be love you enjoy it, you want to be active, go for it. Don't stop. But if active, go for it. Don't stop. But if active, go for it. Don't stop. But if you're like, "No, I want to accomplish you're like, "No, I want to accomplish you're like, "No, I want to accomplish like I want to sculpt my body. I want to like I want to sculpt my body. I want to like I want to sculpt my body. I want to change the way that I look. I want to change the way that I look. I want to change the way that I look. I want to get stronger. I want to have like a lot get stronger. I want to have like a lot get stronger. I want to have like a lot of bang for my buck. I don't need I of bang for my buck. I don't need I of bang for my buck. I don't need I don't want to work out every day. So, don't want to work out every day. So, don't want to work out every day. So, what can I do to accomplish all those what can I do to accomplish all those what can I do to accomplish all those things? Like just strength training. things? Like just strength training. things? Like just strength training. Traditional like traditional strength Traditional like traditional strength Traditional like traditional strength training is going to give you all of training is going to give you all of training is going to give you all of that uh much faster than any other form that uh much faster than any other form that uh much faster than any other form of exercise. So, I just want to set the of exercise. So, I just want to set the of exercise. So, I just want to set the record straight uh because I know the record straight uh because I know the record straight uh because I know the vast majority of of people doing Pilates vast majority of of people doing Pilates vast majority of of people doing Pilates is not because they necessarily want to is not because they necessarily want to is not because they necessarily want to get good at Pilates. because the train get good at Pilates. because the train get good at Pilates. because the train >> Well, that was my point that I'm So, >> Well, that was my point that I'm So, >> Well, that was my point that I'm So, this is uh one of my good buddies who I this is uh one of my good buddies who I this is uh one of my good buddies who I went to high school with. Um his older went to high school with. Um his older went to high school with. Um his older sister who I she was uh three years I sister who I she was uh three years I sister who I she was uh three years I think three or four years older than we think three or four years older than we think three or four years older than we were. Um she owns a bunch of Pilates were. Um she owns a bunch of Pilates were. Um she owns a bunch of Pilates studio. She's also a mind pump listener studio. She's also a mind pump listener studio. She's also a mind pump listener and has been for a long time. and has been for a long time. and has been for a long time. >> So, she's getting annoyed right now, >> So, she's getting annoyed right now, >> So, she's getting annoyed right now, isn't she? isn't she? isn't she? >> No, I No, she lo I think she's she's >> No, I No, she lo I think she's she's >> No, I No, she lo I think she's she's always she uh she's reached out to me always she uh she's reached out to me always she uh she's reached out to me many times to help her with diet and many times to help her with diet and many times to help her with diet and training. Oh, training. Oh, training. Oh, >> yeah. And you know, even as a a Pilates >> yeah. And you know, even as a a Pilates >> yeah. And you know, even as a a Pilates instructor who owns all kinds of instructor who owns all kinds of instructor who owns all kinds of studios, you know, she'd be reaching out studios, you know, she'd be reaching out studios, you know, she'd be reaching out to me saying that, you know, I want I to me saying that, you know, I want I to me saying that, you know, I want I want this. I want to look a little this. want this. I want to look a little this. want this. I want to look a little this. And it's just like and I'm always And it's just like and I'm always And it's just like and I'm always pushing back going like it's it's the pushing back going like it's it's the pushing back going like it's it's the training. It's like you're training. It's like you're training. It's like you're >> I know you love Pilates and it's your >> I know you love Pilates and it's your >> I know you love Pilates and it's your business. And so it's really tough for business. And so it's really tough for business. And so it's really tough for me to tell you like, hey, back off the me to tell you like, hey, back off the me to tell you like, hey, back off the Pilates and go to strength training and Pilates and go to strength training and Pilates and go to strength training and you're going to sculpt the body that you you're going to sculpt the body that you you're going to sculpt the body that you want, but that's what I'm hearing from want, but that's what I'm hearing from want, but that's what I'm hearing from you. you I you're already hella good at you. you I you're already hella good at you. you I you're already hella good at you're definitely proven you're really you're definitely proven you're really you're definitely proven you're really good at Pilates. You can do all the good at Pilates. You can do all the good at Pilates. You can do all the moves better than anybody. You've been moves better than anybody. You've been moves better than anybody. You've been teaching it for 20 years, but you're teaching it for 20 years, but you're teaching it for 20 years, but you're asking me that you you're like telling asking me that you you're like telling asking me that you you're like telling me that I want to lean out a little bit me that I want to lean out a little bit me that I want to lean out a little bit more and I want my butt to look like more and I want my butt to look like more and I want my butt to look like this. And it's like I'm telling you this. And it's like I'm telling you this. And it's like I'm telling you that's not a great way to go about it. that's not a great way to go about it. that's not a great way to go about it. There's a much better way to and what There's a much better way to and what There's a much better way to and what we'll do is we'll reverse diet you build we'll do is we'll reverse diet you build we'll do is we'll reverse diet you build your ass, build some muscle through like your ass, build some muscle through like your ass, build some muscle through like squatting and deadlifting and then I'm squatting and deadlifting and then I'm squatting and deadlifting and then I'm going to reduce your calories and lean going to reduce your calories and lean going to reduce your calories and lean you out and then you're going to have you out and then you're going to have you out and then you're going to have that ass and that waste that you've that ass and that waste that you've that ass and that waste that you've always wanted. Um and it's not through always wanted. Um and it's not through always wanted. Um and it's not through the modality you've been doing for the modality you've been doing for the modality you've been doing for years. years. years. >> One of the other challenges with this is >> One of the other challenges with this is >> One of the other challenges with this is when we look at the famous um you know when we look at the famous um you know when we look at the famous um you know famous loosely could just be popular on famous loosely could just be popular on famous loosely could just be popular on social media or whatever but uh the social media or whatever but uh the social media or whatever but uh the famous representatives of different famous representatives of different famous representatives of different modalities. Uh what you're looking at modalities. Uh what you're looking at modalities. Uh what you're looking at are people who are both genetically are people who are both genetically are people who are both genetically gifted in that uh that they're built to gifted in that uh that they're built to gifted in that uh that they're built to do well at that modality. So they have do well at that modality. So they have do well at that modality. So they have the polymorphism to to do well at that the polymorphism to to do well at that the polymorphism to to do well at that modality. Plus, uh, they're genetically modality. Plus, uh, they're genetically modality. Plus, uh, they're genetically gifted athletes anyway, gifted athletes anyway, gifted athletes anyway, >> or they train completely differently, >> or they train completely differently, >> or they train completely differently, but then they do this as a a function. but then they do this as a a function. but then they do this as a a function. >> And so, you see that represent, for >> And so, you see that represent, for >> And so, you see that represent, for example, if I say bodybuilding, example, if I say bodybuilding, example, if I say bodybuilding, >> you think, you pull up a pro >> you think, you pull up a pro >> you think, you pull up a pro bodybuilder, you like, oh boy, I bodybuilder, you like, oh boy, I bodybuilder, you like, oh boy, I definitely don't want to do that. I'm definitely don't want to do that. I'm definitely don't want to do that. I'm going to tell everybody right now, you going to tell everybody right now, you going to tell everybody right now, you could try, could try, could try, >> you could try looking I've tried my >> you could try looking I've tried my >> you could try looking I've tried my whole life to look like that. Okay? Uh, whole life to look like that. Okay? Uh, whole life to look like that. Okay? Uh, it's just not going to happen. I don't it's just not going to happen. I don't it's just not going to happen. I don't have the genetics. To put it have the genetics. To put it have the genetics. To put it differently, if you look at Olympic differently, if you look at Olympic differently, if you look at Olympic level swimmers, do you think do do you level swimmers, do you think do do you level swimmers, do you think do do you think you're going to look like them? Do think you're going to look like them? Do think you're going to look like them? Do you think you're going to look like an you think you're going to look like an you think you're going to look like an Olympic level swimmer if you train if Olympic level swimmer if you train if Olympic level swimmer if you train if you swim all the time? No. Like Olympic you swim all the time? No. Like Olympic you swim all the time? No. Like Olympic level swimmers have long arms, long level swimmers have long arms, long level swimmers have long arms, long torsos, short legs. That's the way they torsos, short legs. That's the way they torsos, short legs. That's the way they were born. Uh they they're they're were born. Uh they they're they're were born. Uh they they're they're genetically built to be uh great at genetically built to be uh great at genetically built to be uh great at swimming. So, it's not going to change swimming. So, it's not going to change swimming. So, it's not going to change your your limb length or your toes. your your limb length or your toes. your your limb length or your toes. >> Yeah. I don't care what Michael Phelps >> Yeah. I don't care what Michael Phelps >> Yeah. I don't care what Michael Phelps did, diet and exercise, he could never did, diet and exercise, he could never did, diet and exercise, he could never win a pro bodybuilding show. Nothing. win a pro bodybuilding show. Nothing. win a pro bodybuilding show. Nothing. >> Never. >> Never. >> Never. >> He could never run a running any >> He could never run a running any >> He could never run a running any >> He couldn't even he couldn't even make a >> He couldn't even he couldn't even make a >> He couldn't even he couldn't even make a pro card like his pro card like his pro card like his >> He would lose a local show. >> He would lose a local show. >> He would lose a local show. >> Yes. Yeah. Because he's he's just not >> Yes. Yeah. Because he's he's just not >> Yes. Yeah. Because he's he's just not built for it. You know what I'm saying? built for it. You know what I'm saying? built for it. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't mean he can't build a It doesn't mean he can't build a It doesn't mean he can't build a aesthetic looking physique and do very aesthetic looking physique and do very aesthetic looking physique and do very well with what he's got. That's not my well with what he's got. That's not my well with what he's got. That's not my point. point. point. >> My point is there is a there there is a >> My point is there is a there there is a >> My point is there is a there there is a massive difference between the people massive difference between the people massive difference between the people that we we use to market a modality and that we we use to market a modality and that we we use to market a modality and everybody else. everybody else. everybody else. >> Right. So if you look at So you could >> Right. So if you look at So you could >> Right. So if you look at So you could look at like a ice skater or a ballerina look at like a ice skater or a ballerina look at like a ice skater or a ballerina and be like, "Whoa, I want to look like and be like, "Whoa, I want to look like and be like, "Whoa, I want to look like that. It must be their training." No, that. It must be their training." No, that. It must be their training." No, they I mean part of it, but a lot of it they I mean part of it, but a lot of it they I mean part of it, but a lot of it is their genetics. Uh and they were is their genetics. Uh and they were is their genetics. Uh and they were built to do that thing. So Pilates sells built to do that thing. So Pilates sells built to do that thing. So Pilates sells well well well >> uh to women, it does. And when you watch >> uh to women, it does. And when you watch >> uh to women, it does. And when you watch people do, if you watch a woman, same people do, if you watch a woman, same people do, if you watch a woman, same woman lifting weights or doing Pilates woman lifting weights or doing Pilates woman lifting weights or doing Pilates to the average woman, the one that same to the average woman, the one that same to the average woman, the one that same woman, same look, same leanness, same woman, same look, same leanness, same woman, same look, same leanness, same muscle, right? One, she's over here, muscle, right? One, she's over here, muscle, right? One, she's over here, she's deadlifting, squatting, overhead she's deadlifting, squatting, overhead she's deadlifting, squatting, overhead pressing. over here. She's doing Pilates pressing. over here. She's doing Pilates pressing. over here. She's doing Pilates on a reformer. To a lot of women, it's on a reformer. To a lot of women, it's on a reformer. To a lot of women, it's going to be much more attractive to see going to be much more attractive to see going to be much more attractive to see her do it on the reformer cuz it looks her do it on the reformer cuz it looks her do it on the reformer cuz it looks well, it looks more what I would what well, it looks more what I would what well, it looks more what I would what they may think is feminine. they may think is feminine. they may think is feminine. >> Yeah, it's a little more feminine. >> Yeah, it's a little more feminine. >> Yeah, it's a little more feminine. >> That's right. I >> That's right. I >> That's right. I All right, real quick. If you love us All right, real quick. If you love us All right, real quick. 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So, I love a two to three day a week strength training routine with a week strength training routine with a week strength training routine with a one day a week Pilates routine. one day a week Pilates routine. one day a week Pilates routine. >> Great. >> Great. >> Great. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Awesome. >> I had lots of clients. >> I had lots of clients. >> I had lots of clients. >> Awesome. Like that. And this is normally >> Awesome. Like that. And this is normally >> Awesome. Like that. And this is normally where I took somebody that said, "But I where I took somebody that said, "But I where I took somebody that said, "But I love it." love it." love it." >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> I love >> I love >> I love >> I want to look like this, but I also >> I want to look like this, but I also >> I want to look like this, but I also want to do this. want to do this. want to do this. >> I love it. It feels so good. I like my >> I love it. It feels so good. I like my >> I love it. It feels so good. I like my class. I like my teacher. It feels so class. I like my teacher. It feels so class. I like my teacher. It feels so good when I do it. And I'm like, "Rad, good when I do it. And I'm like, "Rad, good when I do it. And I'm like, "Rad, let's keep doing it. Let's do it once a let's keep doing it. Let's do it once a let's keep doing it. Let's do it once a week and then the other two days a week week and then the other two days a week week and then the other two days a week let me strength train you% and then I'm let me strength train you% and then I'm let me strength train you% and then I'm gonna give you that body that you you gonna give you that body that you you gonna give you that body that you you love and then you get to still do that love and then you get to still do that love and then you get to still do that thing you also really enjoy too. You can thing you also really enjoy too. You can thing you also really enjoy too. You can have both. But doing it through Pilates, have both. But doing it through Pilates, have both. But doing it through Pilates, good luck. good luck. good luck. >> Yeah. No, >> Yeah. No, >> Yeah. No, >> good luck. You know what I'm saying? >> good luck. You know what I'm saying? >> good luck. You know what I'm saying? You're if you're trying to obtain a You're if you're trying to obtain a You're if you're trying to obtain a look, which is most people and if you're look, which is most people and if you're look, which is most people and if you're not that person, then not that's not who not that person, then not that's not who not that person, then not that's not who we're talking to. we're talking to. we're talking to. >> Well, there's a lot there's a lot of uh >> Well, there's a lot there's a lot of uh >> Well, there's a lot there's a lot of uh benefit and of variability of movement. benefit and of variability of movement. benefit and of variability of movement. And I think that you know that's And I think that you know that's And I think that you know that's something that you can incorporate something that you can incorporate something that you can incorporate activities and like hobbies and like you activities and like hobbies and like you activities and like hobbies and like you can figure out how to factor that in can figure out how to factor that in can figure out how to factor that in your schedule. But in terms of the your schedule. But in terms of the your schedule. But in terms of the training the core of your training and training the core of your training and training the core of your training and what your goal is in term if it's a what your goal is in term if it's a what your goal is in term if it's a static or performancedriven you have to static or performancedriven you have to static or performancedriven you have to really factor that in is this is the really factor that in is this is the really factor that in is this is the biggest mover. I can I can sprinkle in biggest mover. I can I can sprinkle in biggest mover. I can I can sprinkle in my activities and hobbies. my activities and hobbies. my activities and hobbies. >> And I'll throw I'll throw a wrench in >> And I'll throw I'll throw a wrench in >> And I'll throw I'll throw a wrench in this. Uh if someone loves Pilates so this. Uh if someone loves Pilates so this. Uh if someone loves Pilates so much that that's the only way they're much that that's the only way they're much that that's the only way they're going to be consistent with any exercise going to be consistent with any exercise going to be consistent with any exercise and we're preaching strength training and we're preaching strength training and we're preaching strength training like I hate it. like I hate it. like I hate it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And if I did it, I just won't do it and >> And if I did it, I just won't do it and >> And if I did it, I just won't do it and I won't exercise. You know what I'm I won't exercise. You know what I'm I won't exercise. You know what I'm going to tell you to do? going to tell you to do? going to tell you to do? >> Stick to it. >> Stick to it. >> Stick to it. >> Stick to it. Uh keep doing it then. >> Stick to it. Uh keep doing it then. >> Stick to it. Uh keep doing it then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh but of but that's not the point. The >> Uh but of but that's not the point. The >> Uh but of but that's not the point. The point I'm trying to make is if you're point I'm trying to make is if you're point I'm trying to make is if you're doing it to achieve a look, doing it to achieve a look, doing it to achieve a look, >> you're it's a there's a much faster >> you're it's a there's a much faster >> you're it's a there's a much faster better way. better way. better way. >> Well, you're you're so I want to add to >> Well, you're you're so I want to add to >> Well, you're you're so I want to add to that. Um cuz that's let's let's let's that. Um cuz that's let's let's let's that. Um cuz that's let's let's let's play that client conversation out and play that client conversation out and play that client conversation out and say um but know that you're at the mercy say um but know that you're at the mercy say um but know that you're at the mercy of what it can do. of what it can do. of what it can do. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> So >> So >> So >> the limitations >> the limitations >> the limitations >> exactly it's limited. >> exactly it's limited. >> exactly it's limited. >> Strength training is not. >> Strength training is not. >> Strength training is not. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> I mean you that way. >> I mean you that way. >> I mean you that way. >> No, I mean you can keep changing >> No, I mean you can keep changing >> No, I mean you can keep changing sculpting. I mean, it's it's one of the sculpting. I mean, it's it's one of the sculpting. I mean, it's it's one of the things I love to communicate on here is things I love to communicate on here is things I love to communicate on here is that I've talked openly on the show many that I've talked openly on the show many that I've talked openly on the show many of times about I've you my physique has of times about I've you my physique has of times about I've you my physique has been from 180 to 230 and I've looked been from 180 to 230 and I've looked been from 180 to 230 and I've looked different different different >> good and bad at every weight along the I >> good and bad at every weight along the I >> good and bad at every weight along the I mean that's crazy but that's because of mean that's crazy but that's because of mean that's crazy but that's because of strength training like because of weight strength training like because of weight strength training like because of weight training you at at all different weights training you at at all different weights training you at at all different weights you could have all different looks you could have all different looks you could have all different looks depending on how you're you're training depending on how you're you're training depending on how you're you're training and sculpting the body that's rad and sculpting the body that's rad and sculpting the body that's rad there's no there's nothing else no other there's no there's nothing else no other there's no there's nothing else no other modality could do that modality could do that modality could do that >> also for you know I'll just say this cuz >> also for you know I'll just say this cuz >> also for you know I'll just say this cuz I had this experience this morning. I I had this experience this morning. I I had this experience this morning. I was at the gym. This is my cardio week. was at the gym. This is my cardio week. was at the gym. This is my cardio week. So, I'm just uh using the elliptical, So, I'm just uh using the elliptical, So, I'm just uh using the elliptical, which is hilarious, by the way. which is hilarious, by the way. which is hilarious, by the way. >> You said you you suggested a video, bro. >> You said you you suggested a video, bro. >> You said you you suggested a video, bro. You That's like your thing. We have to You That's like your thing. We have to You That's like your thing. We have to talk about I'm making gifts. talk about I'm making gifts. talk about I'm making gifts. >> Just the up and down, you know, just the >> Just the up and down, you know, just the >> Just the up and down, you know, just the up and down motion. Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, up and down motion. Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, up and down motion. Yeah. I'm like, "Oh, god." But anyway, I'm on the elliptical. god." But anyway, I'm on the elliptical. god." But anyway, I'm on the elliptical. I'm going listen to my book and uh in I'm going listen to my book and uh in I'm going listen to my book and uh in front of me uh there was a older guy, I front of me uh there was a older guy, I front of me uh there was a older guy, I would guess uh probably in his late 60s would guess uh probably in his late 60s would guess uh probably in his late 60s on the recumbent bike. And uh I mean he on the recumbent bike. And uh I mean he on the recumbent bike. And uh I mean he know he's he's going slow, but he's he's know he's he's going slow, but he's he's know he's he's going slow, but he's he's trying to move. He's trying to exercise. trying to move. He's trying to exercise. trying to move. He's trying to exercise. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I was on uh the elliptical for like >> And I was on uh the elliptical for like >> And I was on uh the elliptical for like 35 minutes or so. This guy probably 35 minutes or so. This guy probably 35 minutes or so. This guy probably around 30 minutes. So he gets up before around 30 minutes. So he gets up before around 30 minutes. So he gets up before I'm done. He gets up and he's just man, I'm done. He gets up and he's just man, I'm done. He gets up and he's just man, he's having a tough time standing up and he's having a tough time standing up and he's having a tough time standing up and he stands up and then he kind of walks he stands up and then he kind of walks he stands up and then he kind of walks real slow. First off, I'm like in my real slow. First off, I'm like in my real slow. First off, I'm like in my head I'm thinking like I'm proud of you, head I'm thinking like I'm proud of you, head I'm thinking like I'm proud of you, man, for doing some exercise. But then man, for doing some exercise. But then man, for doing some exercise. But then the other part of me is like my friend, the other part of me is like my friend, the other part of me is like my friend, you're doing the recumbent bike, but you're doing the recumbent bike, but you're doing the recumbent bike, but what you need is strength. Mhm. what you need is strength. Mhm. what you need is strength. Mhm. >> You sat on this bike and pedal, which is >> You sat on this bike and pedal, which is >> You sat on this bike and pedal, which is better than nothing. It's way better better than nothing. It's way better better than nothing. It's way better than sitting at home. than sitting at home. than sitting at home. >> So, I'm proud of you. >> So, I'm proud of you. >> So, I'm proud of you. >> But I'm watching you get up out of that >> But I'm watching you get up out of that >> But I'm watching you get up out of that chair. I'm watching you walk. chair. I'm watching you walk. chair. I'm watching you walk. >> You have a hard time getting up. >> You have a hard time getting up. >> You have a hard time getting up. >> And and it's it's what you need is >> And and it's it's what you need is >> And and it's it's what you need is strength, dude. That will change your strength, dude. That will change your strength, dude. That will change your life. This bike better than nothing, but life. This bike better than nothing, but life. This bike better than nothing, but it's not going to change your life. If it's not going to change your life. If it's not going to change your life. If he just strength trained one day a week, he just strength trained one day a week, he just strength trained one day a week, if he did three exercises at his age if he did three exercises at his age if he did three exercises at his age with his condition, from what I saw, with his condition, from what I saw, with his condition, from what I saw, three exercises once a week, that's it. three exercises once a week, that's it. three exercises once a week, that's it. Three, he would it would blow his mind. Three, he would it would blow his mind. Three, he would it would blow his mind. He would he would get out of that chair He would he would get out of that chair He would he would get out of that chair so much faster within months so much faster within months so much faster within months >> versus coming in every day and doing >> versus coming in every day and doing >> versus coming in every day and doing that little recumbent bike the whole that little recumbent bike the whole that little recumbent bike the whole time. All right. So, I I can't wait to time. All right. So, I I can't wait to time. All right. So, I I can't wait to tell you. I had I've been waiting tell you. I had I've been waiting tell you. I had I've been waiting holding this story in since this holding this story in since this holding this story in since this morning. Dude, morning. Dude, morning. Dude, >> what a what a crazy experience. >> what a what a crazy experience. >> what a what a crazy experience. >> Hyping the stuff. Were you where this is >> Hyping the stuff. Were you where this is >> Hyping the stuff. Were you where this is yesterday? yesterday? yesterday? >> This was yesterday >> This was yesterday >> This was yesterday >> and at the gym. >> and at the gym. >> and at the gym. >> No, it's at home. >> No, it's at home. >> No, it's at home. >> Oh, home workout. >> Oh, home workout. >> Oh, home workout. >> So, I get home and uh my son wanted to >> So, I get home and uh my son wanted to >> So, I get home and uh my son wanted to shoot the BB gun in the backyard. Um so, shoot the BB gun in the backyard. Um so, shoot the BB gun in the backyard. Um so, you guys we have a big backyard. So, we you guys we have a big backyard. So, we you guys we have a big backyard. So, we go back there, set up a table, and him go back there, set up a table, and him go back there, set up a table, and him and I are shooting the plet gun, and and I are shooting the plet gun, and and I are shooting the plet gun, and we're shooting cans, and you know, cans we're shooting cans, and you know, cans we're shooting cans, and you know, cans are full of soda. So, you hit them, they are full of soda. So, you hit them, they are full of soda. So, you hit them, they explode, and we're just having all this explode, and we're just having all this explode, and we're just having all this fun, right? We're shooting. He's got fun, right? We're shooting. He's got fun, right? We're shooting. He's got really good aim. Uh, by the way, it's really good aim. Uh, by the way, it's really good aim. Uh, by the way, it's it's pretty incredible. This this it's pretty incredible. This this it's pretty incredible. This this 5-year-old kid, man, he's like 80% of 5-year-old kid, man, he's like 80% of 5-year-old kid, man, he's like 80% of the time hits the can. So, anyway, the time hits the can. So, anyway, the time hits the can. So, anyway, >> we're out there shooting and, you know, >> we're out there shooting and, you know, >> we're out there shooting and, you know, it's like at this point now, it's like it's like at this point now, it's like it's like at this point now, it's like 5:45, almost 6:00. Time to go inside for 5:45, almost 6:00. Time to go inside for 5:45, almost 6:00. Time to go inside for dinner. So, I fold up the table and I dinner. So, I fold up the table and I dinner. So, I fold up the table and I got Don't push play on that yet, Doug. got Don't push play on that yet, Doug. got Don't push play on that yet, Doug. Don't push play on that yet, dude. Don't push play on that yet, dude. Don't push play on that yet, dude. >> So, I'm walking in with the table. >> So, I'm walking in with the table. >> So, I'm walking in with the table. >> Oh, you got the video from your nest. >> Oh, you got the video from your nest. >> Oh, you got the video from your nest. >> Hold on a second. Okay. >> Hold on a second. Okay. >> Hold on a second. Okay. >> So, I'm walking in with the table and >> So, I'm walking in with the table and >> So, I'm walking in with the table and the gun. Yeah. the gun. Yeah. the gun. Yeah. >> Okay. So, I'm walking back and I hear my >> Okay. So, I'm walking back and I hear my >> Okay. So, I'm walking back and I hear my wife come out the side of the kitchen wife come out the side of the kitchen wife come out the side of the kitchen door screaming, "Sire, fire." And I see smoke a little bit. So fire." And I see smoke a little bit. So I b right take off along the side of the I b right take off along the side of the I b right take off along the side of the house run in. What she had done is she house run in. What she had done is she house run in. What she had done is she had put taco shells on a pan in the oven had put taco shells on a pan in the oven had put taco shells on a pan in the oven to warm them up but she had it on broil. to warm them up but she had it on broil. to warm them up but she had it on broil. >> So I guess it caused a fire inside the >> So I guess it caused a fire inside the >> So I guess it caused a fire inside the stove. Inside the oven. Yeah. stove. Inside the oven. Yeah. stove. Inside the oven. Yeah. >> It caught the the taco shells on fire. >> It caught the the taco shells on fire. >> It caught the the taco shells on fire. >> Yeah. And they were on fire and it was >> Yeah. And they were on fire and it was >> Yeah. And they were on fire and it was flaming up in there. And so I run in and flaming up in there. And so I run in and flaming up in there. And so I run in and I see the fire in the stove in the oven. I see the fire in the stove in the oven. I see the fire in the stove in the oven. >> But luckily she had turned it off. They >> But luckily she had turned it off. They >> But luckily she had turned it off. They had come down. I was able to grab them had come down. I was able to grab them had come down. I was able to grab them with the oven, take it out. It was a with the oven, take it out. It was a with the oven, take it out. It was a whole ordeal. It was a whole ordeal. whole ordeal. It was a whole ordeal. whole ordeal. It was a whole ordeal. >> Apparently, I didn't hear. She had been >> Apparently, I didn't hear. She had been >> Apparently, I didn't hear. She had been calling for me, but we were way in the calling for me, but we were way in the calling for me, but we were way in the back. My niece had run outside, you back. My niece had run outside, you back. My niece had run outside, you know, she was there. So, they were know, she was there. So, they were know, she was there. So, they were panicking cuz my wife said she opened panicking cuz my wife said she opened panicking cuz my wife said she opened the oven a couple times and like the the oven a couple times and like the the oven a couple times and like the flame came out and she closed it. flame came out and she closed it. flame came out and she closed it. >> So, and she had the fire extinguisher >> So, and she had the fire extinguisher >> So, and she had the fire extinguisher ready to go. So, we all calm down. So, ready to go. So, we all calm down. So, ready to go. So, we all calm down. So, then I'm retelling the story. Uh, we're then I'm retelling the story. Uh, we're then I'm retelling the story. Uh, we're sitting down. I get I open the doors, sitting down. I get I open the doors, sitting down. I get I open the doors, the windows cuz it's full of smoke. the windows cuz it's full of smoke. the windows cuz it's full of smoke. Everything comes out. Fire department Everything comes out. Fire department Everything comes out. Fire department even shows up. even shows up. even shows up. >> Oh my god. cuz we have we have an alarm >> Oh my god. cuz we have we have an alarm >> Oh my god. cuz we have we have an alarm system that that alerts the fire. Oh, system that that alerts the fire. Oh, system that that alerts the fire. Oh, and they were such cool guys, dude. They and they were such cool guys, dude. They and they were such cool guys, dude. They they they pulled up. I walk outside. they they pulled up. I walk outside. they they pulled up. I walk outside. They're like, "Smells good." I'm like, They're like, "Smells good." I'm like, They're like, "Smells good." I'm like, "Dude, I'm like, "Taco shells." So, "Dude, I'm like, "Taco shells." So, "Dude, I'm like, "Taco shells." So, shook everybody's hand like Tuesday. shook everybody's hand like Tuesday. shook everybody's hand like Tuesday. >> Appreciate you guys coming. We're all >> Appreciate you guys coming. We're all >> Appreciate you guys coming. We're all good. But anyway, so now everybody's good. But anyway, so now everybody's good. But anyway, so now everybody's calm. We sit down and I'm like retelling calm. We sit down and I'm like retelling calm. We sit down and I'm like retelling the story and and I'm like, "Man, I'm the story and and I'm like, "Man, I'm the story and and I'm like, "Man, I'm like I heard you yell my name out." I'm like I heard you yell my name out." I'm like I heard you yell my name out." I'm like, "I'm I'm like impressed that I can like, "I'm I'm like impressed that I can like, "I'm I'm like impressed that I can still run." You know, still run." You know, still run." You know, >> that's what you're impressed with. >> that's what you're impressed with. >> that's what you're impressed with. >> So, I got two calls. So my wife's like, >> So, I got two calls. So my wife's like, >> So, I got two calls. So my wife's like, "Wow, you really got to see two weeks." "Wow, you really got to see two weeks." "Wow, you really got to see two weeks." So yeah. Yeah. I took off, dude. So yeah. Yeah. I took off, dude. So yeah. Yeah. I took off, dude. >> So and we're talking like, "Hey, I want >> So and we're talking like, "Hey, I want >> So and we're talking like, "Hey, I want to see to see to see >> Oh god. >> Oh god. >> Oh god. >> I want to see this camera." >> I want to see this camera." >> I want to see this camera." >> Yeah. In your head. Hey. Hey. In your >> Yeah. In your head. Hey. Hey. In your >> Yeah. In your head. Hey. Hey. In your head. In your head. It was real fast, head. In your head. It was real fast, head. In your head. It was real fast, bro. You called it. bro. You called it. bro. You called it. >> Let me see the video. Let me see the >> Let me see the video. Let me see the >> Let me see the video. Let me see the video. video. video. >> I can't wait. I can I can already >> I can't wait. I can I can already >> I can't wait. I can I can already picture. He's like, "That was lightning picture. He's like, "That was lightning picture. He's like, "That was lightning fast." fast." fast." >> I just want to guess. >> I just want to guess. >> I just want to guess. >> In my head, bro. I was such a hero, >> In my head, bro. I was such a hero, >> In my head, bro. I was such a hero, dude. Let me see. dude. Let me see. dude. Let me see. >> No. Watch the video, dude. Did you watch >> No. Watch the video, dude. Did you watch >> No. Watch the video, dude. Did you watch everything? I did. everything? I did. everything? I did. >> Let me see. Let me see it. I already >> Let me see. Let me see it. I already >> Let me see. Let me see it. I already know. You gotta rewind. know. You gotta rewind. know. You gotta rewind. >> In your head, you're like, "Yeah, bro. I >> In your head, you're like, "Yeah, bro. I >> In your head, you're like, "Yeah, bro. I I got there. I got there." I got there. I got there." I got there. I got there." >> Okay. Watch. >> Hey. Hey, listen. I trotted, >> Hey. Hey, listen. I trotted, bro. bro. bro. >> So, my wife my wife pulls up the cam the >> So, my wife my wife pulls up the cam the >> So, my wife my wife pulls up the cam the video and the recording and she's in her video and the recording and she's in her video and the recording and she's in her head. She tells me afterwards cuz we head. She tells me afterwards cuz we head. She tells me afterwards cuz we watched together and we Bro, we were on watched together and we Bro, we were on watched together and we Bro, we were on the floor dying. She goes, "By the way the floor dying. She goes, "By the way the floor dying. She goes, "By the way explained it." She goes, "I thought you explained it." She goes, "I thought you explained it." She goes, "I thought you took off like a rocket ship." No, dude. took off like a rocket ship." No, dude. took off like a rocket ship." No, dude. You know what it looks like? It looks You know what it looks like? It looks You know what it looks like? It looks like It looks like I I I drop things and like It looks like I I I drop things and like It looks like I I I drop things and then I go then I go then I go slow. I'm coming. Yeah, I will be there slow. I'm coming. Yeah, I will be there slow. I'm coming. Yeah, I will be there slowly. slowly. slowly. >> Probably better that way though. >> Probably better that way though. >> Probably better that way though. >> You would have probably luckily you >> You would have probably luckily you >> You would have probably luckily you didn't pull something cuz that that didn't pull something cuz that that didn't pull something cuz that that that's normally what happens in a that's normally what happens in a that's normally what happens in a situation like that. situation like that. situation like that. >> So, we have cameras all around the >> So, we have cameras all around the >> So, we have cameras all around the house. So, we're like, and there's like house. So, we're like, and there's like house. So, we're like, and there's like I have a video of me walking out with I have a video of me walking out with I have a video of me walking out with the pan, you know, you know, smoke the pan, you know, you know, smoke the pan, you know, you know, smoke coming out of it. And my niece, she's coming out of it. And my niece, she's coming out of it. And my niece, she's she said she was yelling fire. Bro, we she said she was yelling fire. Bro, we she said she was yelling fire. Bro, we watched her come out and I'm like, "Bro, watched her come out and I'm like, "Bro, watched her come out and I'm like, "Bro, you sound like you were calling your you sound like you were calling your you sound like you were calling your dog, like your dog's name Fire." She's dog, like your dog's name Fire." She's dog, like your dog's name Fire." She's like, "Fire, fire." Like, nobody's going like, "Fire, fire." Like, nobody's going like, "Fire, fire." Like, nobody's going to respond to that. >> Hilarious, bro. But hey, in my head, >> Hilarious, bro. But hey, in my head, >> in my head, I dropped everything took >> in my head, I dropped everything took >> in my head, I dropped everything took off, bro. You know what that Hey, what off, bro. You know what that Hey, what off, bro. You know what that Hey, what this reminds me of is uh this reminds me of is uh this reminds me of is uh >> That was the slowest thing I've ever >> That was the slowest thing I've ever >> That was the slowest thing I've ever seen my last seen my last seen my last >> So, you remember uh >> So, you remember uh >> So, you remember uh >> that was a a nice little stroll. >> that was a a nice little stroll. >> that was a a nice little stroll. >> You remember um remember when I tore my >> You remember um remember when I tore my >> You remember um remember when I tore my pack? What last year year before last? pack? What last year year before last? pack? What last year year before last? No. It's been two years now. Almost two No. It's been two years now. Almost two No. It's been two years now. Almost two years since I tore my pack. years since I tore my pack. years since I tore my pack. >> Um wakeboarding. >> Um wakeboarding. >> Um wakeboarding. Uh you know, I had I had been out in a Uh you know, I had I had been out in a Uh you know, I had I had been out in a while and I'm with a family that like while and I'm with a family that like while and I'm with a family that like they they've only had a boat and and they they've only had a boat and and they they've only had a boat and and tower for so long. I've been riding tower for so long. I've been riding tower for so long. I've been riding since I was a kid and stuff like that. since I was a kid and stuff like that. since I was a kid and stuff like that. So, everybody gets all excited for for So, everybody gets all excited for for So, everybody gets all excited for for me to go out and go ride and stuff like me to go out and go ride and stuff like me to go out and go ride and stuff like that. And I'm like warming up and doing that. And I'm like warming up and doing that. And I'm like warming up and doing my thing and stuff like that, feeling my thing and stuff like that, feeling my thing and stuff like that, feeling myself and my son's watching and my myself and my son's watching and my myself and my son's watching and my wife's videoing and stuff like that. And wife's videoing and stuff like that. And wife's videoing and stuff like that. And I'm like and I and I hadn't I haven't I'm like and I and I hadn't I haven't I'm like and I and I hadn't I haven't ridden and really jumped on time and I ridden and really jumped on time and I ridden and really jumped on time and I hit my first jump and I'm just like, hit my first jump and I'm just like, hit my first jump and I'm just like, "Yeah." You know what I'm saying? Like I "Yeah." You know what I'm saying? Like I "Yeah." You know what I'm saying? Like I come back in and I see the video. It's come back in and I see the video. It's come back in and I see the video. It's Yeah. It's like a quarter the size I Yeah. It's like a quarter the size I Yeah. It's like a quarter the size I thought. You know what I'm saying? I thought. You know what I'm saying? I thought. You know what I'm saying? I swore I was 20 30 feet in the air. You swore I was 20 30 feet in the air. You swore I was 20 30 feet in the air. You know what I'm saying? It was like 4 know what I'm saying? It was like 4 know what I'm saying? It was like 4 feet. You know what I'm saying? feet. You know what I'm saying? feet. You know what I'm saying? >> But my body my body felt like Oh yeah. I >> But my body my body felt like Oh yeah. I >> But my body my body felt like Oh yeah. I was up there. You know what I'm saying? was up there. You know what I'm saying? was up there. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you, bro, the way I was I'm telling you, bro, the way I was I'm telling you, bro, the way I was selling it to to everybody, I'm like, selling it to to everybody, I'm like, selling it to to everybody, I'm like, "Oh, man. I'm surprised I dropped it and "Oh, man. I'm surprised I dropped it and "Oh, man. I'm surprised I dropped it and I took off. I heard you calling me, you I took off. I heard you calling me, you I took off. I heard you calling me, you know, in my head. I'm like reaction." know, in my head. I'm like reaction." know, in my head. I'm like reaction." >> Yeah. We watched the video. I'm like, >> Yeah. We watched the video. I'm like, >> Yeah. We watched the video. I'm like, "Bro, is that slow motion? Can you hit "Bro, is that slow motion? Can you hit "Bro, is that slow motion? Can you hit Can you hit regular speed? What's going Can you hit regular speed? What's going Can you hit regular speed? What's going on?" That was your turbo, dude. on?" That was your turbo, dude. on?" That was your turbo, dude. >> I sent it to my whole family, bro. We >> I sent it to my whole family, bro. We >> I sent it to my whole family, bro. We were all Everybody was laughing. were all Everybody was laughing. were all Everybody was laughing. >> I knew that was coming the way you were >> I knew that was coming the way you were >> I knew that was coming the way you were setting the table. I was like, "Oh god, setting the table. I was like, "Oh god, setting the table. I was like, "Oh god, I've been there before where you you I've been there before where you you I've been there before where you you think in your head." And it's like, think in your head." And it's like, think in your head." And it's like, >> so awesome. >> so awesome. >> so awesome. >> And you know what's so funny is like I >> And you know what's so funny is like I >> And you know what's so funny is like I think it just keeps going like that. You think it just keeps going like that. You think it just keeps going like that. You know what I'm saying? It's just by the know what I'm saying? It's just by the know what I'm saying? It's just by the time you're you're 65, 70, it's like, time you're you're 65, 70, it's like, time you're you're 65, 70, it's like, "Oh yeah, I was sprinting." It's like, "Oh yeah, I was sprinting." It's like, "Oh yeah, I was sprinting." It's like, "Dude, you should have seen me. You "Dude, you should have seen me. You "Dude, you should have seen me. You should have seen what I did." should have seen what I did." should have seen what I did." >> That was crazy. >> That was crazy. >> That was crazy. >> Well, we got cameras now, everybody. >> Well, we got cameras now, everybody. >> Well, we got cameras now, everybody. >> We can now record it all. >> We can now record it all. >> We can now record it all. >> Great equalizer. >> Great equalizer. >> Great equalizer. >> Dude, we're uh Last night we're I'm in >> Dude, we're uh Last night we're I'm in >> Dude, we're uh Last night we're I'm in the kitchen. I'm uh I'm cooking and the kitchen. I'm uh I'm cooking and the kitchen. I'm uh I'm cooking and cleaning and stuff and I got my uh you cleaning and stuff and I got my uh you cleaning and stuff and I got my uh you know, my jazz music on. We have a little know, my jazz music on. We have a little know, my jazz music on. We have a little speaker inside the inside there. Hey. speaker inside the inside there. Hey. speaker inside the inside there. Hey. Yeah. Hey, hey, Google, play, play jazz. Yeah. Hey, hey, Google, play, play jazz. Yeah. Hey, hey, Google, play, play jazz. And uh Katrina, Katrina, I'm listening And uh Katrina, Katrina, I'm listening And uh Katrina, Katrina, I'm listening and I'm doing my doing my thing. And I and I'm doing my doing my thing. And I and I'm doing my doing my thing. And I can hear And Katrina and Max are in the can hear And Katrina and Max are in the can hear And Katrina and Max are in the living room doing their thing. And uh living room doing their thing. And uh living room doing their thing. And uh Max's like, "Mommy, this this song is Max's like, "Mommy, this this song is Max's like, "Mommy, this this song is sad." sad." sad." And she's like, and I can I can hear her And she's like, and I can I can hear her And she's like, and I can I can hear her like like in the distance. I'm doing my like like in the distance. I'm doing my like like in the distance. I'm doing my thing. And I'm but I can hear her thing. And I'm but I can hear her thing. And I'm but I can hear her talking to him. She's like, "Dad, it's talking to him. She's like, "Dad, it's talking to him. She's like, "Dad, it's daddy. Let daddy listen to his music. daddy. Let daddy listen to his music. daddy. Let daddy listen to his music. He's cooking dinner for us this and He's cooking dinner for us this and He's cooking dinner for us this and that." And he's like and I just hear him that." And he's like and I just hear him that." And he's like and I just hear him go, "Hey, Google skip. go, "Hey, Google skip. go, "Hey, Google skip. Sky little [ __ ] >> dude. My my >> dude. My my I told you guys my three-year-old, my I told you guys my three-year-old, my I told you guys my three-year-old, my daughter, when she gets mad sometimes, daughter, when she gets mad sometimes, daughter, when she gets mad sometimes, we call her the incredible sulk, by the we call her the incredible sulk, by the we call her the incredible sulk, by the way, because she gets mad and she's way, because she gets mad and she's way, because she gets mad and she's angry. angry. angry. >> She's angry for a while, dude. So, we're >> She's angry for a while, dude. So, we're >> She's angry for a while, dude. So, we're like, "All right." like, "All right." like, "All right." >> But she'll get mad and she'll walk >> But she'll get mad and she'll walk >> But she'll get mad and she'll walk around the house. She'll she'll make around the house. She'll she'll make around the house. She'll she'll make this face this face this face >> and then she'll walk and just knock >> and then she'll walk and just knock >> and then she'll walk and just knock things off tables and throw things. And things off tables and throw things. And things off tables and throw things. And we know this. This is like her thing. we know this. This is like her thing. we know this. This is like her thing. This is like her thing. She's going to This is like her thing. She's going to This is like her thing. She's going to throw things. throw things. throw things. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, anyway, she was I don't remember >> Well, anyway, she was I don't remember >> Well, anyway, she was I don't remember what happened, dude. She got pissed. what happened, dude. She got pissed. what happened, dude. She got pissed. She's like, "No." And we're like, "No, She's like, "No." And we're like, "No, She's like, "No." And we're like, "No, Dalia, you can't do that." She's like, Dalia, you can't do that." She's like, Dalia, you can't do that." She's like, "And we had a bag with two one gallon "And we had a bag with two one gallon "And we had a bag with two one gallon bottles of water in them." So, the big bottles of water in them." So, the big bottles of water in them." So, the big gallon. So, there's like two of them gallon. So, there's like two of them gallon. So, there's like two of them right in the bag. She looks at it and right in the bag. She looks at it and right in the bag. She looks at it and and I'm like, "Oh, she going to try to and I'm like, "Oh, she going to try to and I'm like, "Oh, she going to try to throw that like go for it." Right. She throw that like go for it." Right. She throw that like go for it." Right. She gets down. She's It's not moving. And gets down. She's It's not moving. And gets down. She's It's not moving. And she's like trying like she's like she's like trying like she's like she's like trying like she's like committed like she has to throw this committed like she has to throw this committed like she has to throw this thing. She can't lift it. So she finally thing. She can't lift it. So she finally thing. She can't lift it. So she finally stops and she like kicks it over. Walks stops and she like kicks it over. Walks stops and she like kicks it over. Walks over it. over it. over it. >> We were just cracking up like she's just >> We were just cracking up like she's just >> We were just cracking up like she's just trying so hard to be a little turkey. trying so hard to be a little turkey. trying so hard to be a little turkey. >> They have to be getting close to that >> They have to be getting close to that >> They have to be getting close to that age. I'm trying to remember cuz uh my age. I'm trying to remember cuz uh my age. I'm trying to remember cuz uh my godson and God they're they're similar godson and God they're they're similar godson and God they're they're similar >> and it was it's right about now or in >> and it was it's right about now or in >> and it was it's right about now or in the next year or so when I remember and the next year or so when I remember and the next year or so when I remember and you guys are your kids are just like his you guys are your kids are just like his you guys are your kids are just like his like the like the like the >> the older boy already kind of a rough >> the older boy already kind of a rough >> the older boy already kind of a rough and tumble boy but then it makes the and tumble boy but then it makes the and tumble boy but then it makes the daughter like even more. And I remember daughter like even more. And I remember daughter like even more. And I remember when she got strong enough to start when she got strong enough to start when she got strong enough to start wrestling with him on the couch. And so wrestling with him on the couch. And so wrestling with him on the couch. And so yeah, I don't know if Dollalia is there yeah, I don't know if Dollalia is there yeah, I don't know if Dollalia is there yet, but before long she will be. And I yet, but before long she will be. And I yet, but before long she will be. And I remember seeing my little god just get remember seeing my little god just get remember seeing my little god just get whooping up with my godson who's not whooping up with my godson who's not whooping up with my godson who's not like a little softy kid. He's a he's a like a little softy kid. He's a he's a like a little softy kid. He's a he's a he's a tough little kid, but his the his he's a tough little kid, but his the his he's a tough little kid, but his the his little sister is even tougher, dude. And little sister is even tougher, dude. And little sister is even tougher, dude. And it's so funny to watch her like wrestle it's so funny to watch her like wrestle it's so funny to watch her like wrestle him and then him cry to mom and dad. him and then him cry to mom and dad. him and then him cry to mom and dad. Mom. Mom. Mom. Oh, she just she's, you know, she's Oh, she just she's, you know, she's Oh, she just she's, you know, she's three, so she's super honest. She's three, so she's super honest. She's three, so she's super honest. She's like, um, uh, you know, she what what like, um, uh, you know, she what what like, um, uh, you know, she what what happened? We were hanging out and she happened? We were hanging out and she happened? We were hanging out and she goes, "Uh, papa, I like mom a lot more goes, "Uh, papa, I like mom a lot more goes, "Uh, papa, I like mom a lot more than you." I'm like, "Oh, okay. That's, than you." I'm like, "Oh, okay. That's, than you." I'm like, "Oh, okay. That's, you know, I love mom, too." She goes, you know, I love mom, too." She goes, you know, I love mom, too." She goes, "Yeah, but I love her." I'm like, "Do "Yeah, but I love her." I'm like, "Do "Yeah, but I love her." I'm like, "Do you love me?" She goes, "Not now." And you love me?" She goes, "Not now." And you love me?" She goes, "Not now." And sometimes I'm like, "Wow, so you don't sometimes I'm like, "Wow, so you don't sometimes I'm like, "Wow, so you don't love me?" She goes, "Well, I just love love me?" She goes, "Well, I just love love me?" She goes, "Well, I just love mom a lot." I'm like, "Okay, thanks. I mom a lot." I'm like, "Okay, thanks. I mom a lot." I'm like, "Okay, thanks. I guess we'll just keep playing and uh guess we'll just keep playing and uh guess we'll just keep playing and uh we'll just take it from there, dude. we'll just take it from there, dude. we'll just take it from there, dude. Thanks for I appreciate you telling me Thanks for I appreciate you telling me Thanks for I appreciate you telling me that, dude." Anyways, that, dude." Anyways, that, dude." Anyways, >> hey, did you see that uh we finally have >> hey, did you see that uh we finally have >> hey, did you see that uh we finally have the meat sticks stocked up? The Paleo the meat sticks stocked up? The Paleo the meat sticks stocked up? The Paleo Valley. Valley. Valley. >> Oh, >> Oh, >> Oh, >> yes. I'm so excited about that. Finally, >> yes. I'm so excited about that. Finally, >> yes. I'm so excited about that. Finally, >> dude. Save me. I Dude, I I've been >> dude. Save me. I Dude, I I've been >> dude. Save me. I Dude, I I've been having such a hard time like getting my having such a hard time like getting my having such a hard time like getting my lunch consistently. lunch consistently. lunch consistently. >> Yeah. Why do you What's wrong with you? >> Yeah. Why do you What's wrong with you? >> Yeah. Why do you What's wrong with you? >> I don't know, man. I just like it's an >> I don't know, man. I just like it's an >> I don't know, man. I just like it's an oversight, you know? Like, I've actually oversight, you know? Like, I've actually oversight, you know? Like, I've actually been up in my breakfast a lot, though. been up in my breakfast a lot, though. been up in my breakfast a lot, though. So, it's I think that's probably part of So, it's I think that's probably part of So, it's I think that's probably part of it cuz I just I don't think, you know, it cuz I just I don't think, you know, it cuz I just I don't think, you know, ahead of time to to cover that. ahead of time to to cover that. ahead of time to to cover that. >> Oh, you're you're you're eating before >> Oh, you're you're you're eating before >> Oh, you're you're you're eating before you leave for the studio. you leave for the studio. you leave for the studio. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like more >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like more >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like more substantially than I was was before. substantially than I was was before. substantially than I was was before. >> Cuz I don't. >> Cuz I don't. >> Cuz I don't. >> But yeah, it's it's happened too on the >> But yeah, it's it's happened too on the >> But yeah, it's it's happened too on the weekend when I'm working really hard and weekend when I'm working really hard and weekend when I'm working really hard and then I'm like, "Oh, no." Like I told then I'm like, "Oh, no." Like I told then I'm like, "Oh, no." Like I told it's like 3 4:00 and I totally forgot, it's like 3 4:00 and I totally forgot, it's like 3 4:00 and I totally forgot, you know, to eat. you know, to eat. you know, to eat. >> When you have the meat sticks, what are >> When you have the meat sticks, what are >> When you have the meat sticks, what are you doing? Like three, four. you doing? Like three, four. you doing? Like three, four. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, you do? >> Oh, you do? >> Oh, you do? >> Do you like cramming? What's each one? >> Do you like cramming? What's each one? >> Do you like cramming? What's each one? Nine grams of protein. Is that right? Nine grams of protein. Is that right? Nine grams of protein. Is that right? >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I believe so. >> I believe so. >> I believe so. >> Yeah. Nine grams. I think another six >> Yeah. Nine grams. I think another six >> Yeah. Nine grams. I think another six grams or nine grams of fat. It's like grams or nine grams of fat. It's like grams or nine grams of fat. It's like It's grass-fed. You know, all that It's grass-fed. You know, all that It's grass-fed. You know, all that stuff. Do you like the buffalo chicken? stuff. Do you like the buffalo chicken? stuff. Do you like the buffalo chicken? >> That's pretty good. Yeah, that's my >> That's pretty good. Yeah, that's my >> That's pretty good. Yeah, that's my favorite. favorite. favorite. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Jalapeno, bro. >> Jalapeno, bro. >> Jalapeno, bro. >> They stopped making that spring back. >> They stopped making that spring back. >> They stopped making that spring back. >> They I just I just ate one. >> They I just I just ate one. >> They I just I just ate one. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Jalapeno, turkey sausage, and what was >> Jalapeno, turkey sausage, and what was >> Jalapeno, turkey sausage, and what was it? it? it? >> I like summer sausage. Yeah. >> I like summer sausage. Yeah. >> I like summer sausage. Yeah. >> Is Is it summer? >> Is Is it summer? >> Is Is it summer? >> You guys won't eat it. I'm like, "Oh, >> You guys won't eat it. I'm like, "Oh, >> You guys won't eat it. I'm like, "Oh, sweet." sweet." sweet." >> Uh what? That's not the turkey sausage >> Uh what? That's not the turkey sausage >> Uh what? That's not the turkey sausage one then. No. Okay. one then. No. Okay. one then. No. Okay. >> Summer sausage, I think. >> Summer sausage, I think. >> Summer sausage, I think. >> And then jalapeno. And then what what >> And then jalapeno. And then what what >> And then jalapeno. And then what what you got, Doug? How many grounds? you got, Doug? How many grounds? you got, Doug? How many grounds? >> It's six grams of protein. And I'm >> It's six grams of protein. And I'm >> It's six grams of protein. And I'm trying to find the fat. Five grams of trying to find the fat. Five grams of trying to find the fat. Five grams of fat. fat. fat. >> Yeah. So, it's uh it's protein, fat, low >> Yeah. So, it's uh it's protein, fat, low >> Yeah. So, it's uh it's protein, fat, low calorie. So, three of those. Three of calorie. So, three of those. Three of calorie. So, three of those. Three of those is a nice little 18 18 g of those is a nice little 18 18 g of those is a nice little 18 18 g of protein. protein. protein. >> And they're fermented, meaning uh that's >> And they're fermented, meaning uh that's >> And they're fermented, meaning uh that's why they're not dry. why they're not dry. why they're not dry. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They actually they actually ferment >> They actually they actually ferment >> They actually they actually ferment they're the best healthy beef jerky you they're the best healthy beef jerky you they're the best healthy beef jerky you can get for sure. can get for sure. can get for sure. >> Everything else is gross. >> Everything else is gross. >> Everything else is gross. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't They totally spoiled the >> I don't They totally spoiled the >> I don't They totally spoiled the >> We I remember before pay we had we had >> We I remember before pay we had we had >> We I remember before pay we had we had bigger name brands that came after us bigger name brands that came after us bigger name brands that came after us and we were just like, and we were just like, and we were just like, >> "This is not I'm not going to eat this." >> "This is not I'm not going to eat this." >> "This is not I'm not going to eat this." >> Dude, I got to tell you guys, uh I was >> Dude, I got to tell you guys, uh I was >> Dude, I got to tell you guys, uh I was reading an article. Do you know how big reading an article. Do you know how big reading an article. Do you know how big I'll pull up this this article. Do you I'll pull up this this article. Do you I'll pull up this this article. Do you guys know how big of a problem guys know how big of a problem guys know how big of a problem Uh AI therapy is becoming Uh AI therapy is becoming Uh AI therapy is becoming >> Oh, still I mean I know what one or two >> Oh, still I mean I know what one or two >> Oh, still I mean I know what one or two states regulated that already, right? states regulated that already, right? states regulated that already, right? >> Dude, they're they're they're they're >> Dude, they're they're they're they're >> Dude, they're they're they're they're trying to trying to trying to >> I thought I saw a percentage of of uh >> I thought I saw a percentage of of uh >> I thought I saw a percentage of of uh was it is it Gen Z that that uses it for was it is it Gen Z that that uses it for was it is it Gen Z that that uses it for it's a it's a large percentage use it it's a it's a large percentage use it it's a it's a large percentage use it that way. that way. that way. >> So this was a study done out of Brown >> So this was a study done out of Brown >> So this was a study done out of Brown University. This is in Science Daily. So University. This is in Science Daily. So University. This is in Science Daily. So it's published March 2nd. This is what it's published March 2nd. This is what it's published March 2nd. This is what it says. It says as millions turn to it says. It says as millions turn to it says. It says as millions turn to chat GBT and other AI chat bots for chat GBT and other AI chat bots for chat GBT and other AI chat bots for therapy style advice. New research from therapy style advice. New research from therapy style advice. New research from Brown University raises a serious red Brown University raises a serious red Brown University raises a serious red flag. Even when instructed to act like flag. Even when instructed to act like flag. Even when instructed to act like trained therapists, these systems trained therapists, these systems trained therapists, these systems routinely break core ethical standards routinely break core ethical standards routinely break core ethical standards of mental health care. In side-by-side of mental health care. In side-by-side of mental health care. In side-by-side evaluations with peer counselors and evaluations with peer counselors and evaluations with peer counselors and licensed psychologists, researchers licensed psychologists, researchers licensed psychologists, researchers uncovered 15 distinct ethical risks. uncovered 15 distinct ethical risks. uncovered 15 distinct ethical risks. From mishandling crisis situations and From mishandling crisis situations and From mishandling crisis situations and reinforcing harmful beliefs to showing reinforcing harmful beliefs to showing reinforcing harmful beliefs to showing biased responses and offering deceptive biased responses and offering deceptive biased responses and offering deceptive empathy that mimics care without real empathy that mimics care without real empathy that mimics care without real understanding. So here, let me tell you understanding. So here, let me tell you understanding. So here, let me tell you why this came up for me. Because I don't why this came up for me. Because I don't why this came up for me. Because I don't use AI like this at all. I don't talk to use AI like this at all. I don't talk to use AI like this at all. I don't talk to my AI. My AI is Google. I use my AI like my AI. My AI is Google. I use my AI like my AI. My AI is Google. I use my AI like Google. And I have it organize things Google. And I have it organize things Google. And I have it organize things for me sometimes, but that's it. That's for me sometimes, but that's it. That's for me sometimes, but that's it. That's about as far as I go. about as far as I go. about as far as I go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I was in this group. Uh I won't say too >> I was in this group. Uh I won't say too >> I was in this group. Uh I won't say too much, but I was in this church group and much, but I was in this church group and much, but I was in this church group and this and and the topic came up of this and and the topic came up of this and and the topic came up of loneliness among uh men. So this is like loneliness among uh men. So this is like loneliness among uh men. So this is like a we know this like middle-aged men in a we know this like middle-aged men in a we know this like middle-aged men in particular just don't make friends very particular just don't make friends very particular just don't make friends very well. Majority of them, if you ask them, well. Majority of them, if you ask them, well. Majority of them, if you ask them, who's your best friend or who do you who's your best friend or who do you who's your best friend or who do you hang out with most? my wife, which is hang out with most? my wife, which is hang out with most? my wife, which is that's nice, but you should also have uh that's nice, but you should also have uh that's nice, but you should also have uh male friendship and the and the the data male friendship and the and the the data male friendship and the and the the data and studies around that is pretty is and studies around that is pretty is and studies around that is pretty is really really good. Show it shows a lot really really good. Show it shows a lot really really good. Show it shows a lot of benefit from having male of benefit from having male of benefit from having male companionship for men. But anyway, this companionship for men. But anyway, this companionship for men. But anyway, this guy's talking about how you we're going guy's talking about how you we're going guy's talking about how you we're going around and he's like, I use uh he goes, around and he's like, I use uh he goes, around and he's like, I use uh he goes, I hate to say this, but I I use Chat I hate to say this, but I I use Chat I hate to say this, but I I use Chat GBT. He's a middle-aged man. It's not GBT. He's a middle-aged man. It's not GBT. He's a middle-aged man. It's not even a Gen Z kid. even a Gen Z kid. even a Gen Z kid. >> He's a dude that's in his 40s. >> He's a dude that's in his 40s. >> He's a dude that's in his 40s. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And he's talking about how he talks to >> And he's talking about how he talks to >> And he's talking about how he talks to Chat GBT throughout the day like it's a Chat GBT throughout the day like it's a Chat GBT throughout the day like it's a buddy. Yeah. buddy. Yeah. buddy. Yeah. >> And it's just crazy. So, I think it's >> And it's just crazy. So, I think it's >> And it's just crazy. So, I think it's happening way more than we realize and happening way more than we realize and happening way more than we realize and it's only going to get worse. it's only going to get worse. it's only going to get worse. >> Now, can you see um >> Now, can you see um >> Now, can you see um obviously that's the alarmist negative obviously that's the alarmist negative obviously that's the alarmist negative bad implications. Can you see any bad implications. Can you see any bad implications. Can you see any positive to it? positive to it? positive to it? >> You can't you can't possibly think it's >> You can't you can't possibly think it's >> You can't you can't possibly think it's all net net negative, right? You can't all net net negative, right? You can't all net net negative, right? You can't possibly think that or else that many possibly think that or else that many possibly think that or else that many people would people would people would >> I think the positive for AI >> I think the positive for AI >> I think the positive for AI >> for that re for that purpose only. I'm >> for that re for that purpose only. I'm >> for that re for that purpose only. I'm not saying there's obvious reasons why not saying there's obvious reasons why not saying there's obvious reasons why AI is positive. No, I think there's zero AI is positive. No, I think there's zero AI is positive. No, I think there's zero zero benefit to companionship. zero benefit to companionship. zero benefit to companionship. >> Zero. That'd be like saying, >> Zero. That'd be like saying, >> Zero. That'd be like saying, >> well, okay, I think companionship is is >> well, okay, I think companionship is is >> well, okay, I think companionship is is a is a is is a too broad of a stroke to a is a is is a too broad of a stroke to a is a is is a too broad of a stroke to say for everybody who's using it for for say for everybody who's using it for for say for everybody who's using it for for therapy, for example. Um, therapy, for example. Um, therapy, for example. Um, let's say you just got in a fight with let's say you just got in a fight with let's say you just got in a fight with your wife. your wife. your wife. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, and it's 10 11 o'clock at night. >> Um, and it's 10 11 o'clock at night. >> Um, and it's 10 11 o'clock at night. You're you're not you're not calling You're you're not you're not calling You're you're not you're not calling your best friend, nor you probably would your best friend, nor you probably would your best friend, nor you probably would anyways. So you go to your AI and you go anyways. So you go to your AI and you go anyways. So you go to your AI and you go and you implement it and you go here's and you implement it and you go here's and you implement it and you go here's here's the argument here's the thing and here's the argument here's the thing and here's the argument here's the thing and it gives you her you know how can I see it gives you her you know how can I see it gives you her you know how can I see this uh from her perspective and you this uh from her perspective and you this uh from her perspective and you know to better understand where she's know to better understand where she's know to better understand where she's coming from and it gives you a a coming from and it gives you a a coming from and it gives you a a relatively good answer and maybe opens relatively good answer and maybe opens relatively good answer and maybe opens your mind a little bit to you know no your mind a little bit to you know no your mind a little bit to you know no you think you think it's better to stay you think you think it's better to stay you think you think it's better to stay stay in your mind stay in your mind stay in your mind >> that's like saying I'll pose a different >> that's like saying I'll pose a different >> that's like saying I'll pose a different question to you there there's a guy question to you there there's a guy question to you there there's a guy who's lonely he's got a high libido So, who's lonely he's got a high libido So, who's lonely he's got a high libido So, uh, so pornography is better than uh, so pornography is better than uh, so pornography is better than nothing. nothing. nothing. >> Well, wait a second. You just you just >> Well, wait a second. You just you just >> Well, wait a second. You just you just added layers to that complexity that I added layers to that complexity that I added layers to that complexity that I did not. I Let's Let's say exactly what did not. I Let's Let's say exactly what did not. I Let's Let's say exactly what I said. Let's say it's you. I said. Let's say it's you. I said. Let's say it's you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And it's it's it's late at night. >> Okay. And it's it's it's late at night. >> Okay. And it's it's it's late at night. You are you have a mental block and you You are you have a mental block and you You are you have a mental block and you you you see there's no value of you you you see there's no value of you you you see there's no value of you working that out with an AI tool. working that out with an AI tool. working that out with an AI tool. >> No, not like that. I don't I I think >> No, not like that. I don't I I think >> No, not like that. I don't I I think it's a I think it's a it's not just a it's a I think it's a it's not just a it's a I think it's a it's not just a super super super >> trust advice. Not just the advice, but >> trust advice. Not just the advice, but >> trust advice. Not just the advice, but if I go to you or you with a problem, if I go to you or you with a problem, if I go to you or you with a problem, it's not just the advice I want. It is, it's not just the advice I want. It is, it's not just the advice I want. It is, but it's also connection. I'm playing but it's also connection. I'm playing but it's also connection. I'm playing devil's advocate right now. Right. Cuz devil's advocate right now. Right. Cuz devil's advocate right now. Right. Cuz it's not like I even use it this way. Um it's not like I even use it this way. Um it's not like I even use it this way. Um >> he doesn't need an advocate, by the way. >> he doesn't need an advocate, by the way. >> he doesn't need an advocate, by the way. He He He >> does a good job. >> does a good job. >> does a good job. >> So the devil he does a pretty good job. >> So the devil he does a pretty good job. >> So the devil he does a pretty good job. >> Uh so because I think sometimes uh some >> Uh so because I think sometimes uh some >> Uh so because I think sometimes uh some people's friends are toxic and give people's friends are toxic and give people's friends are toxic and give terrible advice. terrible advice. terrible advice. >> Sure. Uh matter of fact, a lot of people >> Sure. Uh matter of fact, a lot of people >> Sure. Uh matter of fact, a lot of people operate from a play and this is I mean operate from a play and this is I mean operate from a play and this is I mean what do we always talk about is like what do we always talk about is like what do we always talk about is like you're you're you're the average of your you're you're you're the average of your you're you're you're the average of your five circle and some of the advice. five circle and some of the advice. five circle and some of the advice. Whenever I talk to somebody in their Whenever I talk to somebody in their Whenever I talk to somebody in their 20s, I'm almost always repeating myself 20s, I'm almost always repeating myself 20s, I'm almost always repeating myself with like you really need to evaluate with like you really need to evaluate with like you really need to evaluate the five people you spend this time the five people you spend this time the five people you spend this time with. with. with. >> Many of them are friends and attachments >> Many of them are friends and attachments >> Many of them are friends and attachments you've made through childhood trauma and you've made through childhood trauma and you've made through childhood trauma and insecurities. And there's jealousy insecurities. And there's jealousy insecurities. And there's jealousy involved in there. They act like they're involved in there. They act like they're involved in there. They act like they're they want the best for you, but in they want the best for you, but in they want the best for you, but in reality they only want so good as long reality they only want so good as long reality they only want so good as long as you they want to do good, not better as you they want to do good, not better as you they want to do good, not better than themselves. than themselves. than themselves. >> So if that's your circle that you seek >> So if that's your circle that you seek >> So if that's your circle that you seek counsel and advice from, I can't imagine counsel and advice from, I can't imagine counsel and advice from, I can't imagine that being that much better than a AI that being that much better than a AI that being that much better than a AI tool that I prompt. Speak to me as if tool that I prompt. Speak to me as if tool that I prompt. Speak to me as if you're Jordan Peterson and I'm trying to you're Jordan Peterson and I'm trying to you're Jordan Peterson and I'm trying to understand my wife here. how what understand my wife here. how what understand my wife here. how what >> I think I think if you want information >> I think I think if you want information >> I think I think if you want information the internet's there and you can read the internet's there and you can read the internet's there and you can read articles and find information uh that articles and find information uh that articles and find information uh that will help you but uh AI poses will help you but uh AI poses will help you but uh AI poses as a person it poses as a human and it as a person it poses as a human and it as a person it poses as a human and it creates this creates this creates this >> I think you're I think you're focusing >> I think you're I think you're focusing >> I think you're I think you're focusing on the dangers and the bad only and you on the dangers and the bad only and you on the dangers and the bad only and you you're not looking you're not looking you're not looking >> benefit the advice you just use Google >> benefit the advice you just use Google >> benefit the advice you just use Google why use AI why use AI why use AI >> because you can't prompt that the same >> because you can't prompt that the same >> because you can't prompt that the same way and and by the way when you Google way and and by the way when you Google way and and by the way when you Google now it is AI bro now it is AI bro now it is AI bro >> right but my point is why not just get >> right but my point is why not just get >> right but my point is why not just get the information when people use AI it's the information when people use AI it's the information when people use AI it's conversing with you it's talking with conversing with you it's talking with conversing with you it's talking with you you you >> you you're you're you're you lack the >> you you're you're you're you lack the >> you you're you're you're you lack the understanding then of the of the tool understanding then of the of the tool understanding then of the of the tool very well that it's googling it is the very well that it's googling it is the very well that it's googling it is the is the long form when you have a is the long form when you have a is the long form when you have a calculator it's you being able to go I calculator it's you being able to go I calculator it's you being able to go I if Jordan Peterson was sitting in this if Jordan Peterson was sitting in this if Jordan Peterson was sitting in this room too you could prompt it as room too you could prompt it as room too you could prompt it as >> it's not Jordan Peterson >> it's not Jordan Peterson >> it's not Jordan Peterson >> it it takes from all of Jordan >> it it takes from all of Jordan >> it it takes from all of Jordan Peterson's conversations and then gives Peterson's conversations and then gives Peterson's conversations and then gives you that answer you that answer you that answer >> I could look up the data and >> I could look up the data and >> I could look up the data and information, but to tell it to information, but to tell it to information, but to tell it to communicate to me like Jordan Peterson, communicate to me like Jordan Peterson, communicate to me like Jordan Peterson, not good. It is it is acting like a not good. It is it is acting like a not good. It is it is acting like a human and it is creating a false human and it is creating a false human and it is creating a false connection which is very very dangerous connection which is very very dangerous connection which is very very dangerous and it's causing a lot of problems. and it's causing a lot of problems. and it's causing a lot of problems. >> You're highlighting a you know an >> You're highlighting a you know an >> You're highlighting a you know an interesting way to use it. I think that interesting way to use it. I think that interesting way to use it. I think that most if we're talking about your general most if we're talking about your general most if we're talking about your general people that are like using it, I don't people that are like using it, I don't people that are like using it, I don't really think they're going to prompt it really think they're going to prompt it really think they're going to prompt it in that regard. Like they're just going in that regard. Like they're just going in that regard. Like they're just going to ask it directly. to ask it directly. to ask it directly. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Right. So that I think that's where you >> Right. So that I think that's where you >> Right. So that I think that's where you know the problems lie when you become it know the problems lie when you become it know the problems lie when you become it becomes its own living force that you're becomes its own living force that you're becomes its own living force that you're communicating with and developing a communicating with and developing a communicating with and developing a relationship with. relationship with. relationship with. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And so the relationship of that starts >> And so the relationship of that starts >> And so the relationship of that starts pulling you into using it pulling you into using it pulling you into using it >> differently not like is like you're >> differently not like is like you're >> differently not like is like you're mentioning like a Jordan Peterson like mentioning like a Jordan Peterson like mentioning like a Jordan Peterson like somebody that's already has like wisdom somebody that's already has like wisdom somebody that's already has like wisdom authority uh you know within the authority uh you know within the authority uh you know within the psychological realm which is great. I psychological realm which is great. I psychological realm which is great. I think using it like that would make think using it like that would make think using it like that would make sense if if you have the wit to do that. sense if if you have the wit to do that. sense if if you have the wit to do that. >> Well, don't you guys believe too that >> Well, don't you guys believe too that >> Well, don't you guys believe too that part of that is because it's so new, part of that is because it's so new, part of that is because it's so new, we're still learning how to prompt it we're still learning how to prompt it we're still learning how to prompt it and use it correctly. I'm By the way, and use it correctly. I'm By the way, and use it correctly. I'm By the way, this is not me. this is not me. this is not me. >> No, I know. We're just we're we're >> No, I know. We're just we're we're >> No, I know. We're just we're we're >> I'm probably the just as much anti this >> I'm probably the just as much anti this >> I'm probably the just as much anti this stuff as anybody is. My my point is I I stuff as anybody is. My my point is I I stuff as anybody is. My my point is I I don't think it's fair to only look don't think it's fair to only look don't think it's fair to only look through a the pessimistic uh through a the pessimistic uh through a the pessimistic uh fear-mongering type of lens when we are fear-mongering type of lens when we are fear-mongering type of lens when we are in a time when this is early adop in a time when this is early adop in a time when this is early adop adoption. Anything I mean the the first adoption. Anything I mean the the first adoption. Anything I mean the the first planes that we try to fly were very planes that we try to fly were very planes that we try to fly were very dangerous to try and do that. dangerous to try and do that. dangerous to try and do that. >> Pretending to be a human anything that >> Pretending to be a human anything that >> Pretending to be a human anything that is going to take the place is going to take the place is going to take the place >> when we were pretending to be a bird at >> when we were pretending to be a bird at >> when we were pretending to be a bird at that time. that time. that time. >> No, that's but that's a tricky one. the >> No, that's but that's a tricky one. the >> No, that's but that's a tricky one. the human psychology. human psychology. human psychology. >> I mean, yeah. What I mean, it's >> I mean, yeah. What I mean, it's >> I mean, yeah. What I mean, it's different. different. different. >> Yeah, it's a different I think it's not >> Yeah, it's a different I think it's not >> Yeah, it's a different I think it's not good at that. good at that. good at that. >> Anything that replaces a human or tries >> Anything that replaces a human or tries >> Anything that replaces a human or tries to pretend to be a human is not good. to pretend to be a human is not good. to pretend to be a human is not good. It's dangerous. It's uh uh human It's dangerous. It's uh uh human It's dangerous. It's uh uh human connection and real human connection so connection and real human connection so connection and real human connection so important to who we are. Whether you're important to who we are. Whether you're important to who we are. Whether you're whether you believe in the spiritual whether you believe in the spiritual whether you believe in the spiritual side of things or not, just look at the side of things or not, just look at the side of things or not, just look at the secular data. It's very important. And secular data. It's very important. And secular data. It's very important. And the way people are using it is precisely the way people are using it is precisely the way people are using it is precisely what you're saying. It is replacing what you're saying. It is replacing what you're saying. It is replacing relationships. There was a survey I relationships. There was a survey I relationships. There was a survey I read. There's an alarming amount of read. There's an alarming amount of read. There's an alarming amount of people that have already had an AI people that have already had an AI people that have already had an AI boyfriend or girlfriend. boyfriend or girlfriend. boyfriend or girlfriend. >> I mean, like you uh juggling knives, bad >> I mean, like you uh juggling knives, bad >> I mean, like you uh juggling knives, bad idea. You using it to cut your steak. idea. You using it to cut your steak. idea. You using it to cut your steak. Pretty smart. I you I think that Pretty smart. I you I think that Pretty smart. I you I think that >> the way you're painting it is the way >> the way you're painting it is the way >> the way you're painting it is the way I'm I'm I'm >> Yeah, but you're you're you're assuming >> Yeah, but you're you're you're assuming >> Yeah, but you're you're you're assuming it's uh what is it not possible for the it's uh what is it not possible for the it's uh what is it not possible for the guy who has a very healthy circle of guy who has a very healthy circle of guy who has a very healthy circle of friends in the real world that look at friends in the real world that look at friends in the real world that look at all the par parameters that you're all the par parameters that you're all the par parameters that you're making right now. You're creating like making right now. You're creating like making right now. You're creating like this perfect scenario. this perfect scenario. this perfect scenario. >> Well, you're doing the opposite. You're >> Well, you're doing the opposite. You're >> Well, you're doing the opposite. You're just saying a blanket statement of it's just saying a blanket statement of it's just saying a blanket statement of it's all bad, it's all dangerous, it's all all bad, it's all dangerous, it's all all bad, it's all dangerous, it's all evil. It's all like a second. evil. It's all like a second. evil. It's all like a second. >> I think if you use it for work, you use >> I think if you use it for work, you use >> I think if you use it for work, you use it for programming, you're using it to it for programming, you're using it to it for programming, you're using it to solve problems, I think it's brilliant. solve problems, I think it's brilliant. solve problems, I think it's brilliant. If it's if it is a friendship or therapy If it's if it is a friendship or therapy If it's if it is a friendship or therapy or any kind of human connection uh or any kind of human connection uh or any kind of human connection uh substitute to be able to discern that substitute to be able to discern that substitute to be able to discern that it's giving you good information. So it's giving you good information. So it's giving you good information. So that's the part I think it's I struggle that's the part I think it's I struggle that's the part I think it's I struggle with that. with that. with that. >> Oh, I mean I agree with that. That's I >> Oh, I mean I agree with that. That's I >> Oh, I mean I agree with that. That's I think that's also part of Justin. That's think that's also part of Justin. That's think that's also part of Justin. That's early adoption of anything though. early adoption of anything though. early adoption of anything though. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're that like and >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're that like and >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're that like and and you guess what? We're going to crack and you guess what? We're going to crack and you guess what? We're going to crack a couple eggs to make an omelette. Like a couple eggs to make an omelette. Like a couple eggs to make an omelette. Like better versions of it, too. better versions of it, too. better versions of it, too. >> Yeah. There's going to be better >> Yeah. There's going to be better >> Yeah. There's going to be better versions. And then the generation coming versions. And then the generation coming versions. And then the generation coming up isn't going to sound like the the a up isn't going to sound like the the a up isn't going to sound like the the a bunch of us old old fuddy duddies trying bunch of us old old fuddy duddies trying bunch of us old old fuddy duddies trying to use it. They're going to have they're to use it. They're going to have they're to use it. They're going to have they're going to know that. They're going to be going to know that. They're going to be going to know that. They're going to be like, "Hey, listen. These people that like, "Hey, listen. These people that like, "Hey, listen. These people that decided to use it as a companion, look decided to use it as a companion, look decided to use it as a companion, look what happened to them. Bad idea. Don't what happened to them. Bad idea. Don't what happened to them. Bad idea. Don't use it that way." But to problem solve, use it that way." But to problem solve, use it that way." But to problem solve, >> I I and which could be what I just gave >> I I and which could be what I just gave >> I I and which could be what I just gave as an example. My wife and I just got as an example. My wife and I just got as an example. My wife and I just got into this argument. I am having such a into this argument. I am having such a into this argument. I am having such a hard time seeing it from a female's hard time seeing it from a female's hard time seeing it from a female's perspective or from her side of the perspective or from her side of the perspective or from her side of the argument. Let me prompt this thing as if argument. Let me prompt this thing as if argument. Let me prompt this thing as if it was Jordan Peterson who's going to it was Jordan Peterson who's going to it was Jordan Peterson who's going to then and man, that's not a bad tool, then and man, that's not a bad tool, then and man, that's not a bad tool, bro. bro. bro. >> I I I think it is. And I think again, >> I I I think it is. And I think again, >> I I I think it is. And I think again, it's it's a it's acting like a person. it's it's a it's acting like a person. it's it's a it's acting like a person. It's rep it's uh replacing a human being It's rep it's uh replacing a human being It's rep it's uh replacing a human being in that sense. But if you're like in that sense. But if you're like in that sense. But if you're like showing showing showing >> you don't have you I can't call Jordan >> you don't have you I can't call Jordan >> you don't have you I can't call Jordan Peterson at 10:00 at night. Peterson at 10:00 at night. Peterson at 10:00 at night. >> Of course not. But you but I don't think >> Of course not. But you but I don't think >> Of course not. But you but I don't think an AI Jordan Peterson is a good an AI Jordan Peterson is a good an AI Jordan Peterson is a good alternative. alternative. alternative. >> You don't think he's better than Susan >> You don't think he's better than Susan >> You don't think he's better than Susan who's jealous of your shoes and your who's jealous of your shoes and your who's jealous of your shoes and your wealth that you've created recently? You wealth that you've created recently? You wealth that you've created recently? You think you think she's better to call? think you think she's better to call? think you think she's better to call? >> Do you think the states better to raise >> Do you think the states better to raise >> Do you think the states better to raise kids than parents that aren't perfect? I kids than parents that aren't perfect? I kids than parents that aren't perfect? I mean, we I could create all kinds of mean, we I could create all kinds of mean, we I could create all kinds of weird scenarios where if I paint the weird scenarios where if I paint the weird scenarios where if I paint the parameters and maybe we could create an parameters and maybe we could create an parameters and maybe we could create an argument, but I'm going to tell you argument, but I'm going to tell you argument, but I'm going to tell you right now, if it's replacing actual right now, if it's replacing actual right now, if it's replacing actual human relationship and connection, bad human relationship and connection, bad human relationship and connection, bad bad always, always, always. And even if bad always, always, always. And even if bad always, always, always. And even if it if the result sounds good and feels it if the result sounds good and feels it if the result sounds good and feels good, it leads to good, it leads to good, it leads to >> Why can't it be the Pilates of strength >> Why can't it be the Pilates of strength >> Why can't it be the Pilates of strength training? >> We can make it work. >> We can make it work. >> Look, I'm not I'm not advocating for >> Look, I'm not I'm not advocating for >> Look, I'm not I'm not advocating for Pilates, full Pilates, dog. Look, Pilates, full Pilates, dog. Look, Pilates, full Pilates, dog. Look, >> they can compliment your strength >> they can compliment your strength >> they can compliment your strength training. training. training. >> I read a study and I I I want to make >> I read a study and I I I want to make >> I read a study and I I I want to make sure I have it right. Look up what sure I have it right. Look up what sure I have it right. Look up what percentage of people have had a uh have percentage of people have had a uh have percentage of people have had a uh have admitted to having an AI boyfriend or admitted to having an AI boyfriend or admitted to having an AI boyfriend or girlfriend. It was a weird study I read girlfriend. It was a weird study I read girlfriend. It was a weird study I read and it's actually you guys. and it's actually you guys. and it's actually you guys. >> It's growing. I mean, >> It's growing. I mean, >> It's growing. I mean, >> bro, it's wild. >> bro, it's wild. >> bro, it's wild. >> It is growing. It's way more than people >> It is growing. It's way more than people >> It is growing. It's way more than people realize and it's only gonna get worse. realize and it's only gonna get worse. realize and it's only gonna get worse. >> I mean, I don't numbers wise, >> I mean, I don't numbers wise, >> I mean, I don't numbers wise, >> I wouldn't argue that you teased it out. >> I wouldn't argue that you teased it out. >> I wouldn't argue that you teased it out. You're gonna get outliers and and that's You're gonna get outliers and and that's You're gonna get outliers and and that's the thing. It's I think I think it just the thing. It's I think I think it just the thing. It's I think I think it just needs to be in the conversation the the needs to be in the conversation the the needs to be in the conversation the the uh caution in the guard rails and that uh caution in the guard rails and that uh caution in the guard rails and that this could happen like so the examples this could happen like so the examples this could happen like so the examples of like where this has gone sideways of like where this has gone sideways of like where this has gone sideways instead of just you know like allowing instead of just you know like allowing instead of just you know like allowing people to figure that out people to figure that out people to figure that out >> and a large percentage of people use it >> and a large percentage of people use it >> and a large percentage of people use it precisely for therapy. Every time new precisely for therapy. Every time new precisely for therapy. Every time new technology has come out, technology has come out, technology has come out, >> look at this, bro. >> look at this, bro. >> look at this, bro. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Recent surveys from late 2025 indicate >> Recent surveys from late 2025 indicate >> Recent surveys from late 2025 indicate that approximately 19 to 28% that approximately 19 to 28% that approximately 19 to 28% of US adults have admitted admitted of US adults have admitted admitted of US adults have admitted admitted these are the ones that have admitted to these are the ones that have admitted to these are the ones that have admitted to having intimate or romantic relationship having intimate or romantic relationship having intimate or romantic relationship with an AI chatbot. Look at this. Gen Z, with an AI chatbot. Look at this. Gen Z, with an AI chatbot. Look at this. Gen Z, 33%. You guys, that's one out of nine 33%. You guys, that's one out of nine 33%. You guys, that's one out of nine onethird of Gen Z. onethird of Gen Z. onethird of Gen Z. >> Wow. is have an intimate relationship >> Wow. is have an intimate relationship >> Wow. is have an intimate relationship with AI. with AI. with AI. >> Okay, I'm gonna tell you right now again >> Okay, I'm gonna tell you right now again >> Okay, I'm gonna tell you right now again uh no, if it replaces any human type of uh no, if it replaces any human type of uh no, if it replaces any human type of connection, it's bad. This is the connection, it's bad. This is the connection, it's bad. This is the beginning. This is 2025 where you think beginning. This is 2025 where you think beginning. This is 2025 where you think it's going to be in 10 years. it's going to be in 10 years. it's going to be in 10 years. >> I mean, what what what did the stats >> I mean, what what what did the stats >> I mean, what what what did the stats look like when um you know, television look like when um you know, television look like when um you know, television first came out? What percentage of those first came out? What percentage of those first came out? What percentage of those kids when they first start when start kids when they first start when start kids when they first start when start were sitting in front of the television were sitting in front of the television were sitting in front of the television all day long because it was a new all day long because it was a new all day long because it was a new technology? technology? technology? >> That's totally different. That's totally >> That's totally different. That's totally >> That's totally different. That's totally different. My my it's totally different. different. My my it's totally different. different. My my it's totally different. It's always totally different because It's always totally different because It's always totally different because techn is always evolving and changing. techn is always evolving and changing. techn is always evolving and changing. My my argument and my point is that My my argument and my point is that My my argument and my point is that there is always a bunch of 45year-old there is always a bunch of 45year-old there is always a bunch of 45year-old guys. guys. guys. >> Nobody was having >> Nobody was having >> Nobody was having >> when something comes out that reads the >> when something comes out that reads the >> when something comes out that reads the statistics on something that is so bad statistics on something that is so bad statistics on something that is so bad at all. at all. at all. >> This is very specific, bro. This is >> This is very specific, bro. This is >> This is very specific, bro. This is intimate or romantic relationship. This intimate or romantic relationship. This intimate or romantic relationship. This is not how long are you using it? Are is not how long are you using it? Are is not how long are you using it? Are you using it instead of working out? Are you using it instead of working out? Are you using it instead of working out? Are you on this for this many hours? It you on this for this many hours? It you on this for this many hours? It literally specific. literally specific. literally specific. >> Yeah. Doesn't this follow the natural >> Yeah. Doesn't this follow the natural >> Yeah. Doesn't this follow the natural curve of how us we do a bunch of stupid curve of how us we do a bunch of stupid curve of how us we do a bunch of stupid [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] >> and then we go look how we're already >> and then we go look how we're already >> and then we go look how we're already seeing the the gener the generation seeing the the gener the generation seeing the the gener the generation coming up start to autocorrect itself on coming up start to autocorrect itself on coming up start to autocorrect itself on social media social media social media >> and that's addictive as [ __ ] but you >> and that's addictive as [ __ ] but you >> and that's addictive as [ __ ] but you already see you already see like no your already see you already see like no your already see you already see like no your guys' young your youngest kids are guys' young your youngest kids are guys' young your youngest kids are already becoming aware of the generation already becoming aware of the generation already becoming aware of the generation above that became zombies on their tech above that became zombies on their tech above that became zombies on their tech and are going it's cool to not be on and are going it's cool to not be on and are going it's cool to not be on there it's cool to not post there it's cool to not post there it's cool to not post >> you're saying that it's going to get >> you're saying that it's going to get >> you're saying that it's going to get real bad people will figure out go back real bad people will figure out go back real bad people will figure out go back Maybe Maybe Maybe it's so new. It's so it's so it's so new. It's so it's so it's so new. It's so it's so >> But we've never had anything that's not >> But we've never had anything that's not >> But we've never had anything that's not human that creates what people would human that creates what people would human that creates what people would label as deep emotional. label as deep emotional. label as deep emotional. >> I know. But there there there was always >> I know. But there there there was always >> I know. But there there there was always there's always been an argument that there's always been an argument that there's always been an argument that we've never had this thing is what I'm we've never had this thing is what I'm we've never had this thing is what I'm saying. Sure. It is different. saying. Sure. It is different. saying. Sure. It is different. >> I hope you're right. I don't know. >> I hope you're right. I don't know. >> I hope you're right. I don't know. >> But we've always at every at every >> But we've always at every at every >> But we've always at every at every decade and a half, there's always a decade and a half, there's always a decade and a half, there's always a thing that we've never seen anything thing that we've never seen anything thing that we've never seen anything like this. And look at how bad they're like this. And look at how bad they're like this. And look at how bad they're using it and it's like using it and it's like using it and it's like >> So your argument is it's going to get >> So your argument is it's going to get >> So your argument is it's going to get worse and then get better. worse and then get better. worse and then get better. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Maybe. I hope you're right. >> Maybe. I hope you're right. >> Maybe. I hope you're right. >> Yeah. And maybe and maybe we're at peak >> Yeah. And maybe and maybe we're at peak >> Yeah. And maybe and maybe we're at peak worse already. Maybe people are already worse already. Maybe people are already worse already. Maybe people are already realizing. realizing. realizing. >> I don't know. I'll gamble and say no >> I don't know. I'll gamble and say no >> I don't know. I'll gamble and say no because we haven't seen it like in because we haven't seen it like in because we haven't seen it like in robotic form. robotic form. robotic form. >> Thank you. Right. We're still on your >> Thank you. Right. We're still on your >> Thank you. Right. We're still on your phone, bro. You got a robot. You got a phone, bro. You got a robot. You got a phone, bro. You got a robot. You got a hot looking robot that does this. hot looking robot that does this. hot looking robot that does this. >> I was just watching Westworld again. I >> I was just watching Westworld again. I >> I was just watching Westworld again. I started watching this all over again started watching this all over again started watching this all over again with my kids and it's really with my kids and it's really with my kids and it's really interesting. um to to go through that interesting. um to to go through that interesting. um to to go through that again because it it you start to see again because it it you start to see again because it it you start to see like I mean there was a lot of like I mean there was a lot of like I mean there was a lot of interesting ideas that they portrayed in interesting ideas that they portrayed in interesting ideas that they portrayed in there where they collect memories and there where they collect memories and there where they collect memories and this collective memory like as they go this collective memory like as they go this collective memory like as they go along it builds this consciousness and along it builds this consciousness and along it builds this consciousness and then it almost becomes the point where then it almost becomes the point where then it almost becomes the point where it it it >> you know it's unstoppable where it just >> you know it's unstoppable where it just >> you know it's unstoppable where it just becomes its own becomes its own becomes its own >> I will make I'm more I'm more worried >> I will make I'm more I'm more worried >> I will make I'm more I'm more worried okay of this utopia that we're chasing okay of this utopia that we're chasing okay of this utopia that we're chasing than I am this because that will fuel than I am this because that will fuel than I am this because that will fuel this more than anything else. If we get this more than anything else. If we get this more than anything else. If we get to a place, which is where we're moving to a place, which is where we're moving to a place, which is where we're moving right now, where the robots and AI does right now, where the robots and AI does right now, where the robots and AI does all of our jobs, which like I don't know all of our jobs, which like I don't know all of our jobs, which like I don't know 80% of all tech jobs, finance jobs right 80% of all tech jobs, finance jobs right 80% of all tech jobs, finance jobs right now, you you're all working training now, you you're all working training now, you you're all working training your replacement right now. your replacement right now. your replacement right now. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like and every every big company is like >> Like and every every big company is like >> Like and every every big company is like fully aware that we do right now. And so fully aware that we do right now. And so fully aware that we do right now. And so then what happens from there, then what happens from there, then what happens from there, >> learn it, >> learn it, >> learn it, >> is a a mass adoption of this new these >> is a a mass adoption of this new these >> is a a mass adoption of this new these AI tools that enhance these companies AI tools that enhance these companies AI tools that enhance these companies that lays off all these people that then that lays off all these people that then that lays off all these people that then government has to come and get involved government has to come and get involved government has to come and get involved and UBI comes out to make sure everybody and UBI comes out to make sure everybody and UBI comes out to make sure everybody can actually live and survive while all can actually live and survive while all can actually live and survive while all these robots now are doing our jobs and these robots now are doing our jobs and these robots now are doing our jobs and the then the the most dangerous thing the then the the most dangerous thing the then the the most dangerous thing happens which is you get everything you happens which is you get everything you happens which is you get everything you want and you don't have anything to do want and you don't have anything to do want and you don't have anything to do and you don't have purpose and then that and you don't have purpose and then that and you don't have purpose and then that number right there of course explodes. number right there of course explodes. number right there of course explodes. But I think that's far more scary of a But I think that's far more scary of a But I think that's far more scary of a thing than that is. I think if if if all thing than that is. I think if if if all thing than that is. I think if if if all the if the job thing and utopia thing the if the job thing and utopia thing the if the job thing and utopia thing doesn't happen like I'm saying we're doesn't happen like I'm saying we're doesn't happen like I'm saying we're chasing, chasing, chasing, >> then this autocorrects this gets to a >> then this autocorrects this gets to a >> then this autocorrects this gets to a point where enough kids grow up and point where enough kids grow up and point where enough kids grow up and realize having a relationship with an AI realize having a relationship with an AI realize having a relationship with an AI is dangerous. Doesn't lead to having is dangerous. Doesn't lead to having is dangerous. Doesn't lead to having more children. It could very well it more children. It could very well it more children. It could very well it could very well do that. Yeah. I mean could very well do that. Yeah. I mean could very well do that. Yeah. I mean what what are the odds that the next what what are the odds that the next what what are the odds that the next civil rights movement is to give rights civil rights movement is to give rights civil rights movement is to give rights to AI robots? Because because you get to AI robots? Because because you get to AI robots? Because because you get you get 70% of adults you get 70% of adults you get 70% of adults >> covered everything else. >> covered everything else. >> covered everything else. >> Yeah. You get 70% of adults who have >> Yeah. You get 70% of adults who have >> Yeah. You get 70% of adults who have intimate relationships with AI robots intimate relationships with AI robots intimate relationships with AI robots that seem that are humanoid. They're that seem that are humanoid. They're that seem that are humanoid. They're going to vote. They're going to want going to vote. They're going to want going to vote. They're going to want their companion to have rights. And their companion to have rights. And their companion to have rights. And that's I mean that's that's one that's I mean that's that's one that's I mean that's that's one speculation, but who knows? We're speculation, but who knows? We're speculation, but who knows? We're betting on this. Look, this is what betting on this. Look, this is what betting on this. Look, this is what we're betting on. Uh we're investing we're betting on. Uh we're investing we're betting on. Uh we're investing heavily in in-person personal training heavily in in-person personal training heavily in in-person personal training because I think in the future Yeah. as because I think in the future Yeah. as because I think in the future Yeah. as people have more people have more people have more available resources because of this available resources because of this available resources because of this highly efficient, you know, world that highly efficient, you know, world that highly efficient, you know, world that we may live in in the future where these we may live in in the future where these we may live in in the future where these robots are going to do all of our work robots are going to do all of our work robots are going to do all of our work for us. I think there's going to be for us. I think there's going to be for us. I think there's going to be enough people are going to be like, man, enough people are going to be like, man, enough people are going to be like, man, I really, first off, I have time. I really, first off, I have time. I really, first off, I have time. >> Yeah. A mindset shift. >> Yeah. A mindset shift. >> Yeah. A mindset shift. >> I want to I want to exercise and get >> I want to I want to exercise and get >> I want to I want to exercise and get fit, never had the time and the energy, fit, never had the time and the energy, fit, never had the time and the energy, but it gives you a sense of purpose. So, but it gives you a sense of purpose. So, but it gives you a sense of purpose. So, there's a little bit of a sense of there's a little bit of a sense of there's a little bit of a sense of purpose there. And I want to be around purpose there. And I want to be around purpose there. And I want to be around people. And so, that's one thing that people. And so, that's one thing that people. And so, that's one thing that we're investing. we're investing. we're investing. >> I mean, I 100% agree. I we are going to >> I mean, I 100% agree. I we are going to >> I mean, I 100% agree. I we are going to the I have no idea what the split is the I have no idea what the split is the I have no idea what the split is going to be. It's probably going to be going to be. It's probably going to be going to be. It's probably going to be like 8020. I know I've been saying it's like 8020. I know I've been saying it's like 8020. I know I've been saying it's going to be split, not like down right going to be split, not like down right going to be split, not like down right down the middle. There's going to be the down the middle. There's going to be the down the middle. There's going to be the plugged and unplugged, dude. There is plugged and unplugged, dude. There is plugged and unplugged, dude. There is going to be people that reject going to be people that reject going to be people that reject this idea of of that. And I 100% I even this idea of of that. And I 100% I even this idea of of that. And I 100% I even believe to go even further on like believe to go even further on like believe to go even further on like investing and and real estate and all investing and and real estate and all investing and and real estate and all this other stuff that I like to pay this other stuff that I like to pay this other stuff that I like to pay attention to. Like I think like uh attention to. Like I think like uh attention to. Like I think like uh Justin's style of living and out further Justin's style of living and out further Justin's style of living and out further from the city is going to be more from the city is going to be more from the city is going to be more desirable than in city. desirable than in city. desirable than in city. >> Yes. City is going to be automated. >> Yes. City is going to be automated. >> Yes. City is going to be automated. >> City will have all the self-driving >> City will have all the self-driving >> City will have all the self-driving cars. City will cars. City will cars. City will be it'll be low cost. be it'll be low cost. be it'll be low cost. >> Why would you need to live in the city >> Why would you need to live in the city >> Why would you need to live in the city if you're not even working? if you're not even working? if you're not even working? >> Exactly. And so having an acre >> Exactly. And so having an acre >> Exactly. And so having an acre >> to two acres around and space and uh is >> to two acres around and space and uh is >> to two acres around and space and uh is going to become where the uber wealthy going to become where the uber wealthy going to become where the uber wealthy go, go, go, >> not in the highrise in the building that >> not in the highrise in the building that >> not in the highrise in the building that is that serves you all. is that serves you all. is that serves you all. >> You know what's wild? >> You know what's wild? >> You know what's wild? >> And we'll see. And by the way, if we go >> And we'll see. And by the way, if we go >> And we'll see. And by the way, if we go this direction, you will see it from the this direction, you will see it from the this direction, you will see it from the city out. It won't start. You won't have city out. It won't start. You won't have city out. It won't start. You won't have rope people that have 5 acres 20 minutes rope people that have 5 acres 20 minutes rope people that have 5 acres 20 minutes out from the city are not going to be out from the city are not going to be out from the city are not going to be the first people to adopt all the the first people to adopt all the the first people to adopt all the robots. It'll be the people that are robots. It'll be the people that are robots. It'll be the people that are inside the city to make all that stuff inside the city to make all that stuff inside the city to make all that stuff more efficient that'll drive that cost more efficient that'll drive that cost more efficient that'll drive that cost down. down. down. >> If if it does work that way where people >> If if it does work that way where people >> If if it does work that way where people have more time, uh things are being done have more time, uh things are being done have more time, uh things are being done for you, resources are, you know, things for you, resources are, you know, things for you, resources are, you know, things are efficient, um you're going to see an are efficient, um you're going to see an are efficient, um you're going to see an explosion of interest in fitness is what explosion of interest in fitness is what explosion of interest in fitness is what you're going to see. You saw us during you're going to see. You saw us during you're going to see. You saw us during COVID, which is wild. During co gyms COVID, which is wild. During co gyms COVID, which is wild. During co gyms were closed and more people because they were closed and more people because they were closed and more people because they couldn't work couldn't work couldn't work >> got into fitness. Uh, and so I think >> got into fitness. Uh, and so I think >> got into fitness. Uh, and so I think it's it's it's >> personal imperson that in music and art >> personal imperson that in music and art >> personal imperson that in music and art and and I do think because like if you and and I do think because like if you and and I do think because like if you guys have noticed like so even this guys have noticed like so even this guys have noticed like so even this summer and then the whole year slotted summer and then the whole year slotted summer and then the whole year slotted out. out. out. >> I have never seen this minivans touring >> I have never seen this minivans touring >> I have never seen this minivans touring like it's insane. like it's insane. like it's insane. >> Is it because it's hard to make money >> Is it because it's hard to make money >> Is it because it's hard to make money now by other now by other now by other >> I don't I think there's interest there. >> I don't I think there's interest there. >> I don't I think there's interest there. I think people and they're they're I think people and they're they're I think people and they're they're selling out like everywhere is selling selling out like everywhere is selling selling out like everywhere is selling out for these live events. Um, and I out for these live events. Um, and I out for these live events. Um, and I just think that it's an exp people are just think that it's an exp people are just think that it's an exp people are seeking like real experiences, not seeking like real experiences, not seeking like real experiences, not digital experiences. Yeah. And so I digital experiences. Yeah. And so I digital experiences. Yeah. And so I think that I mean that's my speculation think that I mean that's my speculation think that I mean that's my speculation on the on the on the >> the super optimistic view of this >> the super optimistic view of this >> the super optimistic view of this although I don't think I have this but although I don't think I have this but although I don't think I have this but the super optimistic view is that the super optimistic view is that the super optimistic view is that >> this frees up so much time people >> this frees up so much time people >> this frees up so much time people realize they lack purpose in their life realize they lack purpose in their life realize they lack purpose in their life and the and that the the journey towards and the and that the the journey towards and the and that the the journey towards that is self-development and growth that is self-development and growth that is self-development and growth >> and they seek things like spiritual >> and they seek things like spiritual >> and they seek things like spiritual growth like physical health and things growth like physical health and things growth like physical health and things like that because it will give that like that because it will give that like that because it will give that sense of purpose. sense of purpose. sense of purpose. >> Yeah. And I can see that. And uh the >> Yeah. And I can see that. And uh the >> Yeah. And I can see that. And uh the question becomes how long do they have question becomes how long do they have question becomes how long do they have to go down the direction that you're r to go down the direction that you're r to go down the direction that you're r you know sounding the alarm for before you know sounding the alarm for before you know sounding the alarm for before they because you will have to. they because you will have to. they because you will have to. >> It won't it won't like there won't be a >> It won't it won't like there won't be a >> It won't it won't like there won't be a >> it's going to be sooring. >> it's going to be sooring. >> it's going to be sooring. >> You can't you can't Netflix and [ __ ] >> You can't you can't Netflix and [ __ ] >> You can't you can't Netflix and [ __ ] your way robots wise to happiness. It your way robots wise to happiness. It your way robots wise to happiness. It just that won't happen. just that won't happen. just that won't happen. >> That that will that could numb you for a >> That that will that could numb you for a >> That that will that could numb you for a short period of time, but you will short period of time, but you will short period of time, but you will eventually have to find something that eventually have to find something that eventually have to find something that gives you real meaning and purpose. gives you real meaning and purpose. gives you real meaning and purpose. >> West world. I had I had this crazy >> West world. I had I had this crazy >> West world. I had I had this crazy thought of like the poor awkward dude uh thought of like the poor awkward dude uh thought of like the poor awkward dude uh who has no friends. So, he goes to the who has no friends. So, he goes to the who has no friends. So, he goes to the robot bar robot bar robot bar >> and he's hanging out with his AI buddies >> and he's hanging out with his AI buddies >> and he's hanging out with his AI buddies and they're all just having a great time and they're all just having a great time and they're all just having a great time and he's like, "Why would I want to do and he's like, "Why would I want to do and he's like, "Why would I want to do anything else?" anything else?" anything else?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's going to be interesting. >> You know, it's going to be interesting. >> You know, it's going to be interesting. It's going to be very But I That's that It's going to be very But I That's that It's going to be very But I That's that what Doug brought up, what Doug pulled what Doug brought up, what Doug pulled what Doug brought up, what Doug pulled up. up. up. >> It's like the blow up. Uh >> It's like the blow up. Uh >> It's like the blow up. Uh >> surveys are bro, it's the Matrix. >> surveys are bro, it's the Matrix. >> surveys are bro, it's the Matrix. Remember the part where he's like, "We Remember the part where he's like, "We Remember the part where he's like, "We had to recreate it because had to recreate it because had to recreate it because >> it was too perfect. >> it was too perfect. >> it was too perfect. >> Everybody was happy. they got what they >> Everybody was happy. they got what they >> Everybody was happy. they got what they wanted was told out pretty wanted was told out pretty wanted was told out pretty >> they lost entire crops. Yeah, we have >> they lost entire crops. Yeah, we have >> they lost entire crops. Yeah, we have lost entire crops and so we had to go lost entire crops and so we had to go lost entire crops and so we had to go back and create adversity and challenge back and create adversity and challenge back and create adversity and challenge and struggle and all the things, you and struggle and all the things, you and struggle and all the things, you know. know. know. >> Speaking of trainers and stuff, uh, you >> Speaking of trainers and stuff, uh, you >> Speaking of trainers and stuff, uh, you know, we have, uh, we have a group, know, we have, uh, we have a group, know, we have, uh, we have a group, >> our school group >> our school group >> our school group >> for trainers literally about >> for trainers literally about >> for trainers literally about >> Elite Trainer Academy. >> Elite Trainer Academy. >> Elite Trainer Academy. >> It's literally about being helping you >> It's literally about being helping you >> It's literally about being helping you become a better trainer. You don't work become a better trainer. You don't work become a better trainer. You don't work for us, just you're in there and uh, we for us, just you're in there and uh, we for us, just you're in there and uh, we teach you uh, we have stuff in there teach you uh, we have stuff in there teach you uh, we have stuff in there that teaches you. It's a great community that teaches you. It's a great community that teaches you. It's a great community and it's we're we're going to have and it's we're we're going to have and it's we're we're going to have people in there for free for a little people in there for free for a little people in there for free for a little bit, right? So the way we've we've bit, right? So the way we've we've bit, right? So the way we've we've created it and we agreed to do this is created it and we agreed to do this is created it and we agreed to do this is we moved it away from a public a public we moved it away from a public a public we moved it away from a public a public platform so we could focus on the platform so we could focus on the platform so we could focus on the development of trainers. We have a development of trainers. We have a development of trainers. We have a full-time educator in there and we dip full-time educator in there and we dip full-time educator in there and we dip it in there. We have webinars, all kinds it in there. We have webinars, all kinds it in there. We have webinars, all kinds of tools and content that's constantly of tools and content that's constantly of tools and content that's constantly out there. There's meetings every single out there. There's meetings every single out there. There's meetings every single week. The goal for us is to level up the week. The goal for us is to level up the week. The goal for us is to level up the next generation of coaches and trainers next generation of coaches and trainers next generation of coaches and trainers and to really help them. And it isn't to and to really help them. And it isn't to and to really help them. And it isn't to go huge. It's to really f we can't go huge. It's to really f we can't go huge. It's to really f we can't possibly make 20,000 great trainers all possibly make 20,000 great trainers all possibly make 20,000 great trainers all at once. And so it's like we're taking at once. And so it's like we're taking at once. And so it's like we're taking groups of these trainers through and groups of these trainers through and groups of these trainers through and making them really good. And so it's making them really good. And so it's making them really good. And so it's it's an exclusive group. Okay. And so uh it's an exclusive group. Okay. And so uh it's an exclusive group. Okay. And so uh we it's not public for everybody, but we it's not public for everybody, but we it's not public for everybody, but we're opening it for 7 days for free we're opening it for 7 days for free we're opening it for 7 days for free just so these people can come in and just so these people can come in and just so these people can come in and experience what it's like. During those experience what it's like. During those experience what it's like. During those seven days, we'll have two webinars. One seven days, we'll have two webinars. One seven days, we'll have two webinars. One of those one of the webinars is Ann or of those one of the webinars is Ann or of those one of the webinars is Ann or the educator. She's the one who's going the educator. She's the one who's going the educator. She's the one who's going to be doing that. That's more business to be doing that. That's more business to be doing that. That's more business focused on how to be a great trainer. focused on how to be a great trainer. focused on how to be a great trainer. That side of it. And then the other one That side of it. And then the other one That side of it. And then the other one is James, who James and Eli run our CRM. is James, who James and Eli run our CRM. is James, who James and Eli run our CRM. So the back end of our of our business, So the back end of our of our business, So the back end of our of our business, if you've ever been interested in email if you've ever been interested in email if you've ever been interested in email marketing and sales funnels and lead marketing and sales funnels and lead marketing and sales funnels and lead generation and how that's all automated generation and how that's all automated generation and how that's all automated to run and scale a business, um, we have to run and scale a business, um, we have to run and scale a business, um, we have a CRM side of the business and that's a a CRM side of the business and that's a a CRM side of the business and that's a full training on that. Both webinars are full training on that. Both webinars are full training on that. Both webinars are completely free. You get seven days into completely free. You get seven days into completely free. You get seven days into the group to check it out and see what the group to check it out and see what the group to check it out and see what what it's all about, but it'll be only what it's all about, but it'll be only what it's all about, but it'll be only open for those seven days. Uh, and then open for those seven days. Uh, and then open for those seven days. Uh, and then we close that off again. we close that off again. we close that off again. >> Eliteergroup.com, Doug. >> Eliteergroup.com, Doug. >> Eliteergroup.com, Doug. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Yeah. And it's a school group. >> Yeah. And it's a school group. >> Yeah. And it's a school group. Incredible platform. We've fallen in Incredible platform. We've fallen in Incredible platform. We've fallen in love with it. This is now our third love with it. This is now our third love with it. This is now our third group that we've created in there. It group that we've created in there. It group that we've created in there. It really allows us uh to educate and really allows us uh to educate and really allows us uh to educate and foster incredible communities. That's foster incredible communities. That's foster incredible communities. That's why we moved away from Facebook and uh why we moved away from Facebook and uh why we moved away from Facebook and uh we're only going to open it up for the we're only going to open it up for the we're only going to open it up for the seven days of free for this small window seven days of free for this small window seven days of free for this small window for you to go check out. And both these for you to go check out. And both these for you to go check out. And both these webinars, if you are an aspiring trainer webinars, if you are an aspiring trainer webinars, if you are an aspiring trainer or already a personal trainer and you or already a personal trainer and you or already a personal trainer and you want to build and grow your business, want to build and grow your business, want to build and grow your business, these two webinars, the one that Ann is these two webinars, the one that Ann is these two webinars, the one that Ann is running on on the business side and the running on on the business side and the running on on the business side and the one that James is running on the CRM one that James is running on the CRM one that James is running on the CRM side are just will be paramount to your side are just will be paramount to your side are just will be paramount to your success. I urge you to get in there for success. I urge you to get in there for success. I urge you to get in there for free. free. free. >> Just speaking of groups, I told you guys >> Just speaking of groups, I told you guys >> Just speaking of groups, I told you guys we signed up our five-year-old for we signed up our five-year-old for we signed up our five-year-old for soccer. Did I tell you guys this? soccer. Did I tell you guys this? soccer. Did I tell you guys this? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> So, he's going to start playing soccer >> So, he's going to start playing soccer >> So, he's going to start playing soccer first. First sport. first. First sport. first. First sport. >> Now, was it uh did you even have to >> Now, was it uh did you even have to >> Now, was it uh did you even have to convince him or was he like, "Yes, I convince him or was he like, "Yes, I convince him or was he like, "Yes, I want to do that." He seemed like he's want to do that." He seemed like he's want to do that." He seemed like he's like, "I want to do it." So, we'll see. like, "I want to do it." So, we'll see. like, "I want to do it." So, we'll see. We haven't played yet. We just showed We haven't played yet. We just showed We haven't played yet. We just showed up, got the jersey, met the team. It's up, got the jersey, met the team. It's up, got the jersey, met the team. It's this uh this um Christian soccer league this uh this um Christian soccer league this uh this um Christian soccer league that my wife found, and everybody in that my wife found, and everybody in that my wife found, and everybody in there seems super cool. Uh so, he's got there seems super cool. Uh so, he's got there seems super cool. Uh so, he's got his little jersey. We got him cleat, got his little jersey. We got him cleat, got his little jersey. We got him cleat, got him shin guard, so he's super excited. him shin guard, so he's super excited. him shin guard, so he's super excited. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> So, he's all pumped about it. We got him >> So, he's all pumped about it. We got him >> So, he's all pumped about it. We got him a little soccer ball. So, we'll see. a little soccer ball. So, we'll see. a little soccer ball. So, we'll see. We'll see how It's funny cuz my We'll see how It's funny cuz my We'll see how It's funny cuz my three-year-old three-year-old three-year-old >> sports ball >> sports ball >> sports ball >> watches him and she wants to go play >> watches him and she wants to go play >> watches him and she wants to go play soccer, which So, we'll because they soccer, which So, we'll because they soccer, which So, we'll because they allow three-year-olds, but I don't know allow three-year-olds, but I don't know allow three-year-olds, but I don't know if if if >> Do you guys Have you guys been kicking >> Do you guys Have you guys been kicking >> Do you guys Have you guys been kicking the ball at home? Like do you have a the ball at home? Like do you have a the ball at home? Like do you have a setup? setup? setup? >> I mean a little bit, not much. Um so >> I mean a little bit, not much. Um so >> I mean a little bit, not much. Um so we'll see. We'll see how he does. We'll we'll see. We'll see how he does. We'll we'll see. We'll see how he does. We'll see if he if he's uh competitive if he see if he if he's uh competitive if he see if he if he's uh competitive if he likes, you know, at that age, you know, likes, you know, at that age, you know, likes, you know, at that age, you know, kids are funny. They want to go play on kids are funny. They want to go play on kids are funny. They want to go play on the side without, you know, playing. the side without, you know, playing. the side without, you know, playing. >> Oh, I I you you're going to have a kid >> Oh, I I you you're going to have a kid >> Oh, I I you you're going to have a kid that's going to be. Oh, the son. Maybe that's going to be. Oh, the son. Maybe that's going to be. Oh, the son. Maybe you could. This is the part that like I you could. This is the part that like I you could. This is the part that like I like everyone always wants to tell me. like everyone always wants to tell me. like everyone always wants to tell me. >> I think everybody just you know, wait, >> I think everybody just you know, wait, >> I think everybody just you know, wait, your son's still young and you'll see. your son's still young and you'll see. your son's still young and you'll see. It's Listen, I've been around kids my It's Listen, I've been around kids my It's Listen, I've been around kids my whole life. I'm the oldest five. whole life. I'm the oldest five. whole life. I'm the oldest five. And you can just you can see what a And you can just you can see what a And you can just you can see what a kid's got it and and really and and the kid's got it and and really and and the kid's got it and and really and and the most important part about it is that most important part about it is that most important part about it is that he'd love it. They love it, right? Like he'd love it. They love it, right? Like he'd love it. They love it, right? Like I bet I bet your kid ne if you go let's I bet I bet your kid ne if you go let's I bet I bet your kid ne if you go let's go outside and go kick the ball. Would go outside and go kick the ball. Would go outside and go kick the ball. Would never say no to never say no to never say no to >> I can't convince Max to go outside. I >> I can't convince Max to go outside. I >> I can't convince Max to go outside. I cannot convince him to do that. I try cannot convince him to do that. I try cannot convince him to do that. I try every day. Hey, let's go kick the ball. every day. Hey, let's go kick the ball. every day. Hey, let's go kick the ball. Hey, you want to go there? No, I'm cool, Hey, you want to go there? No, I'm cool, Hey, you want to go there? No, I'm cool, Dad. No. No. Doesn't want Dad. No. No. Doesn't want Dad. No. No. Doesn't want >> a window of that and then it was gone. >> a window of that and then it was gone. >> a window of that and then it was gone. >> Yeah. Dude, I every once in a while >> Yeah. Dude, I every once in a while >> Yeah. Dude, I every once in a while Katrina got him to do it the other day. Katrina got him to do it the other day. Katrina got him to do it the other day. She She's like, and part of that cuz his She She's like, and part of that cuz his She She's like, and part of that cuz his best friend Julian was over who loves best friend Julian was over who loves best friend Julian was over who loves football, soccer, all sports, and they football, soccer, all sports, and they football, soccer, all sports, and they were both over and Katrina said it in were both over and Katrina said it in were both over and Katrina said it in front of him and said like, "Hey, we front of him and said like, "Hey, we front of him and said like, "Hey, we should go out and get serveball." AND should go out and get serveball." AND should go out and get serveball." AND JULIAN'S LIKE, "YEAH." And Max was like, JULIAN'S LIKE, "YEAH." And Max was like, JULIAN'S LIKE, "YEAH." And Max was like, "Okay." And then he came out. But if he "Okay." And then he came out. But if he "Okay." And then he came out. But if he by him like, "Yeah, no desire to do it." by him like, "Yeah, no desire to do it." by him like, "Yeah, no desire to do it." Where I bet your son anytime you ask Where I bet your son anytime you ask Where I bet your son anytime you ask that would be like, "Hell yes." Like, so that would be like, "Hell yes." Like, so that would be like, "Hell yes." Like, so that's I mean that's that's I mean that's that's I mean that's >> We'll see. We'll see. It'll be fun. And >> We'll see. We'll see. It'll be fun. And >> We'll see. We'll see. It'll be fun. And it'll be fun to see how he handles it'll be fun to see how he handles it'll be fun to see how he handles losing. He doesn't handle losing very losing. He doesn't handle losing very losing. He doesn't handle losing very well. So, we'll see about that. So, well. So, we'll see about that. So, well. So, we'll see about that. So, anytime we play games, see, I love that, anytime we play games, see, I love that, anytime we play games, see, I love that, too. too. too. >> That's going to be great lessons. >> That's going to be great lessons. >> That's going to be great lessons. >> You know, have you heard me and Katrina >> You know, have you heard me and Katrina >> You know, have you heard me and Katrina talk to Max about like trying to like talk to Max about like trying to like talk to Max about like trying to like care about like he says, "Oh, oh, daddy, care about like he says, "Oh, oh, daddy, care about like he says, "Oh, oh, daddy, you won this time." No, bro. you won this time." No, bro. you won this time." No, bro. >> Not getting playing time phase. The >> Not getting playing time phase. The >> Not getting playing time phase. The there's people better than me phase. there's people better than me phase. there's people better than me phase. >> That's all great learning. >> That's all great learning. >> That's all great learning. >> Oh, dude. It's so much there. It's been >> Oh, dude. It's so much there. It's been >> Oh, dude. It's so much there. It's been so great for both of my kids for sure. so great for both of my kids for sure. so great for both of my kids for sure. No, we we'll now when I play a game with No, we we'll now when I play a game with No, we we'll now when I play a game with him, any game, I used to just always let him, any game, I used to just always let him, any game, I used to just always let him win because it just wasn't worth it him win because it just wasn't worth it him win because it just wasn't worth it if I beat him. It was just he was so if I beat him. It was just he was so if I beat him. It was just he was so upset. Like, I'll wait till he's a upset. Like, I'll wait till he's a upset. Like, I'll wait till he's a little older. Like, he gets really mad, little older. Like, he gets really mad, little older. Like, he gets really mad, right? So, now when I play him, it's right? So, now when I play him, it's right? So, now when I play him, it's like three to one. So, I'll win, but like three to one. So, I'll win, but like three to one. So, I'll win, but then I'll let him beat me like two or then I'll let him beat me like two or then I'll let him beat me like two or three times. I'll win three times. I'll win three times. I'll win >> and I'll let him beat me two or three >> and I'll let him beat me two or three >> and I'll let him beat me two or three times. Uh, and he's he's I'm helping him times. Uh, and he's he's I'm helping him times. Uh, and he's he's I'm helping him like be okay with losing cuz he just like be okay with losing cuz he just like be okay with losing cuz he just gets so pissed. Yeah. gets so pissed. Yeah. gets so pissed. Yeah. >> But anyway, we uh Jessica signed up uh >> But anyway, we uh Jessica signed up uh >> But anyway, we uh Jessica signed up uh for like the snacks, like managing the for like the snacks, like managing the for like the snacks, like managing the snacks and stuff. snacks and stuff. snacks and stuff. >> I can't wait to see what she brings. >> I can't wait to see what she brings. >> I can't wait to see what she brings. >> Well, so she does. It's not just >> Well, so she does. It's not just >> Well, so she does. It's not just bringing it. She's also organizing it. bringing it. She's also organizing it. bringing it. She's also organizing it. So, So, So, >> you guys get a health nut or what? >> you guys get a health nut or what? >> you guys get a health nut or what? >> Oh, yeah, bro. Of course. Yeah, of >> Oh, yeah, bro. Of course. Yeah, of >> Oh, yeah, bro. Of course. Yeah, of course. You ever seen the snacks some course. You ever seen the snacks some course. You ever seen the snacks some parents bring? parents bring? parents bring? >> Of course. >> Of course. >> Of course. >> I know. We did that mainly because of >> I know. We did that mainly because of >> I know. We did that mainly because of that. If it wasn't so egregious, you that. If it wasn't so egregious, you that. If it wasn't so egregious, you know, we wouldn't have done all just know, we wouldn't have done all just know, we wouldn't have done all just like like like >> Do you have plans for like the first one >> Do you have plans for like the first one >> Do you have plans for like the first one or what do you guys do? or what do you guys do? or what do you guys do? >> Well, I'm going to we're going to we're >> Well, I'm going to we're going to we're >> Well, I'm going to we're going to we're going to bring Element. So, I'm gonna going to bring Element. So, I'm gonna going to bring Element. So, I'm gonna have Yeah, we're gonna bring big jug of have Yeah, we're gonna bring big jug of have Yeah, we're gonna bring big jug of water with Element with the kids will water with Element with the kids will water with Element with the kids will love the taste. It's got the love the taste. It's got the love the taste. It's got the electrolytes in there, especially when electrolytes in there, especially when electrolytes in there, especially when it's hot and, you know, sunny outside. it's hot and, you know, sunny outside. it's hot and, you know, sunny outside. Oh, yeah, dude. So, totally. I'm going Oh, yeah, dude. So, totally. I'm going Oh, yeah, dude. So, totally. I'm going to to to >> I'm getting all the student athletes >> I'm getting all the student athletes >> I'm getting all the student athletes involved on Element. Oh, yeah, dude. involved on Element. Oh, yeah, dude. involved on Element. Oh, yeah, dude. >> Your kids drink it. I mean, they're so >> Your kids drink it. I mean, they're so >> Your kids drink it. I mean, they're so physical and active. Do they drink it on physical and active. Do they drink it on physical and active. Do they drink it on the regular or what? the regular or what? the regular or what? >> They do. Um, you know, there's certain >> They do. Um, you know, there's certain >> They do. Um, you know, there's certain flavors that we all compete for and so flavors that we all compete for and so flavors that we all compete for and so it's just like it's gone already. Uh it's just like it's gone already. Uh it's just like it's gone already. Uh yeah, grapefruit is definitely one of yeah, grapefruit is definitely one of yeah, grapefruit is definitely one of that's like my favorite. That one um and that's like my favorite. That one um and that's like my favorite. That one um and the black cherry one. Those two, the black cherry one. Those two, the black cherry one. Those two, >> their new ones, the the new the the new >> their new ones, the the new the the new >> their new ones, the the new the the new skinny ones they have, the the pineapple skinny ones they have, the the pineapple skinny ones they have, the the pineapple and the lemonade ones. and the lemonade ones. and the lemonade ones. >> Yeah, I know. They've gotten I I mean, I >> Yeah, I know. They've gotten I I mean, I >> Yeah, I know. They've gotten I I mean, I love most all the flavors. You know, the love most all the flavors. You know, the love most all the flavors. You know, the ones I I care less are the ones I think ones I I care less are the ones I think ones I I care less are the ones I think are probably really popular, like are probably really popular, like are probably really popular, like watermelon and black cherry, which I watermelon and black cherry, which I watermelon and black cherry, which I think is right. They're good. think is right. They're good. think is right. They're good. >> Yeah, they're not I like >> Yeah, they're not I like >> Yeah, they're not I like >> I didn't think I'd like grapefruit. It >> I didn't think I'd like grapefruit. It >> I didn't think I'd like grapefruit. It ended up being our favorite. ended up being our favorite. ended up being our favorite. >> Oh, that's my favorite one me over. >> Oh, that's my favorite one me over. >> Oh, that's my favorite one me over. Yeah. I I don't know what it is about Yeah. I I don't know what it is about Yeah. I I don't know what it is about that that but the grape I'm not even a that that but the grape I'm not even a that that but the grape I'm not even a grapefruit guy. Like I don't like grapefruit guy. Like I don't like grapefruit guy. Like I don't like grapefruit but the grapefruit grapefruit but the grapefruit grapefruit but the grapefruit >> real grapefruit's gross. You ever eat a >> real grapefruit's gross. You ever eat a >> real grapefruit's gross. You ever eat a grapefruit? grapefruit? grapefruit? >> I like grapefruit bitter. Dude, >> I like grapefruit bitter. Dude, >> I like grapefruit bitter. Dude, >> you like actual grape? >> you like actual grape? >> you like actual grape? >> I like it. Yeah. >> I like it. Yeah. >> I like it. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's bitter. It's bitter to me. >> Yeah. It's bitter. It's bitter to me. >> Yeah. It's bitter. It's bitter to me. >> It's bitter. >> It's bitter. >> It's bitter. >> Yeah. It has a taste after taste. >> Yeah. It has a taste after taste. >> Yeah. It has a taste after taste. >> As a kid, I was like sugar like oh, >> As a kid, I was like sugar like oh, >> As a kid, I was like sugar like oh, >> you know, that used to be a diet. >> you know, that used to be a diet. >> you know, that used to be a diet. >> Horrible. >> Horrible. >> Horrible. >> Grapefruit was sold in the 80s as a diet >> Grapefruit was sold in the 80s as a diet >> Grapefruit was sold in the 80s as a diet food. Yes. In the morning in for food. Yes. In the morning in for food. Yes. In the morning in for breakfast. And so you would see fitness, breakfast. And so you would see fitness, breakfast. And so you would see fitness, you know, whoever you know, whoever you know, whoever >> it left such a bitter taste in your >> it left such a bitter taste in your >> it left such a bitter taste in your mouth. mouth. mouth. >> I don't know why they I don't know why >> I don't know why they I don't know why >> I don't know why they I don't know why they sold it this way, but it was like they sold it this way, but it was like they sold it this way, but it was like running and eating grapefruit in the running and eating grapefruit in the running and eating grapefruit in the morning. And you'd see people cut a cut. morning. And you'd see people cut a cut. morning. And you'd see people cut a cut. I wonder what I wonder what the There's I wonder what I wonder what the There's I wonder what I wonder what the There's got to be. I bet you some sort of got to be. I bet you some sort of got to be. I bet you some sort of science people eat. science people eat. science people eat. >> There's no signs, but there's a there's >> There's no signs, but there's a there's >> There's no signs, but there's a there's a component in grapefruit that slows a component in grapefruit that slows a component in grapefruit that slows down. down. down. >> Maybe because of how high in vitamin C >> Maybe because of how high in vitamin C >> Maybe because of how high in vitamin C it is. Maybe like what's it is. Maybe like what's it is. Maybe like what's >> because it was a weird fruit. Nobody ate >> because it was a weird fruit. Nobody ate >> because it was a weird fruit. Nobody ate so popular. so popular. so popular. >> So you're saying it's like the cancer >> So you're saying it's like the cancer >> So you're saying it's like the cancer thing. Yeah. thing. Yeah. thing. Yeah. always an exotic fruit out there. always an exotic fruit out there. always an exotic fruit out there. >> There is a compound in grapefruit that >> There is a compound in grapefruit that >> There is a compound in grapefruit that will slow down the absorption or or the will slow down the absorption or or the will slow down the absorption or or the the the clearance of certain the the clearance of certain the the clearance of certain medications. You actually have medications. You actually have medications. You actually have >> Okay. Well, that could be the science of >> Okay. Well, that could be the science of >> Okay. Well, that could be the science of it it it >> primarily due to its low calorie, high >> primarily due to its low calorie, high >> primarily due to its low calorie, high water content. So, there you go. Oh, in water content. So, there you go. Oh, in water content. So, there you go. Oh, in the 1930s it started the Hollywood diet the 1930s it started the Hollywood diet the 1930s it started the Hollywood diet fed. fed. fed. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Wow. So, it started in the >> Wow. So, it started in the >> Wow. So, it started in the >> They claimed it contain an enzyme that >> They claimed it contain an enzyme that >> They claimed it contain an enzyme that burns fat. burns fat. burns fat. >> I knew there would be like a science >> I knew there would be like a science >> I knew there would be like a science angle. There's always a science angle. angle. There's always a science angle. angle. There's always a science angle. You want to know what the You want to You want to know what the You want to You want to know what the You want to know what a classic 1980s diet breakfast know what a classic 1980s diet breakfast know what a classic 1980s diet breakfast was? Half a grapefruit was? Half a grapefruit was? Half a grapefruit >> and tang >> and tang >> and tang >> non-fat cottage cheese. That was like a >> non-fat cottage cheese. That was like a >> non-fat cottage cheese. That was like a very popular com non-fat cottage cheese very popular com non-fat cottage cheese very popular com non-fat cottage cheese >> and eating a grapefruit. That was like a >> and eating a grapefruit. That was like a >> and eating a grapefruit. That was like a thing in the 80s. thing in the 80s. thing in the 80s. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> which is weird cuz I was so young. I >> which is weird cuz I was so young. I >> which is weird cuz I was so young. I don't even know how I know this, but if don't even know how I know this, but if don't even know how I know this, but if you look it up, you'll you'll see. you look it up, you'll you'll see. you look it up, you'll you'll see. >> Back back in the Tab cola days. >> Back back in the Tab cola days. >> Back back in the Tab cola days. >> Oh god. My mom drink a lot. >> Oh god. My mom drink a lot. >> Oh god. My mom drink a lot. >> Does that brand still exist? >> Does that brand still exist? >> Does that brand still exist? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> I think it may actually. >> I think it may actually. >> I think it may actually. >> What was Tab? >> What was Tab? >> What was Tab? >> It's like a diet cola. It's like Yeah, >> It's like a diet cola. It's like Yeah, >> It's like a diet cola. It's like Yeah, >> it was the first, right? >> it was the first, right? >> it was the first, right? >> It was like the first female version of >> It was like the first female version of >> It was like the first female version of Coke. Coke. Coke. >> I think it was sold it just to women. >> I think it was sold it just to women. >> I think it was sold it just to women. >> I think it was the first diet soda. >> I think it was the first diet soda. >> I think it was the first diet soda. >> It was It was It was It was positioned >> It was It was It was It was positioned >> It was It was It was It was positioned towards women. Oh, so no, it's no longer towards women. Oh, so no, it's no longer towards women. Oh, so no, it's no longer uh It was Coca-Cola. Was part of uh It was Coca-Cola. Was part of uh It was Coca-Cola. Was part of Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola. >> So I think they made Okay. Was Tab What >> So I think they made Okay. Was Tab What >> So I think they made Okay. Was Tab What was the first diet soda? Doug, look that was the first diet soda? Doug, look that was the first diet soda? Doug, look that up. I want to say Tab. up. I want to say Tab. up. I want to say Tab. >> I think you might be right. >> I think you might be right. >> I think you might be right. >> I think it was Tab, dude. >> I think it was Tab, dude. >> I think it was Tab, dude. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yes. And I think that they >> Yes. And I think that they >> Yes. And I think that they >> Wow. They They only just in 2020 >> Wow. They They only just in 2020 >> Wow. They They only just in 2020 discontinued. They were all the way till discontinued. They were all the way till discontinued. They were all the way till 2020. 2020. 2020. >> They Yeah, cuz all their all their >> They Yeah, cuz all their all their >> They Yeah, cuz all their all their consumers got they died. consumers got they died. consumers got they died. >> Oh, so actually 1952. >> Oh, so actually 1952. >> Oh, so actually 1952. >> Wow. Well, that would be right. >> Wow. Well, that would be right. >> Wow. Well, that would be right. >> Like a ginger ale uh called Nocow. >> Like a ginger ale uh called Nocow. >> Like a ginger ale uh called Nocow. >> Nocal. >> Nocal. >> Nocal. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Bro, you're so right. That's like that >> Bro, you're so right. That's like that >> Bro, you're so right. That's like that puts their what? 76 puts their what? 76 puts their what? 76 >> or so. Yeah. So, like all their >> or so. Yeah. So, like all their >> or so. Yeah. So, like all their consumers passed away. consumers passed away. consumers passed away. >> They lost their run. They had a good >> They lost their run. They had a good >> They lost their run. They had a good They had a good run. It They had a good run. It They had a good run. It >> was a good brand. >> was a good brand. >> was a good brand. >> Wow. What year was Tab? Yeah. So tab was >> Wow. What year was Tab? Yeah. So tab was >> Wow. What year was Tab? Yeah. So tab was popular in the 80s. I know that. popular in the 80s. I know that. popular in the 80s. I know that. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Let's see what it says here. >> Let's see what it says here. >> Let's see what it says here. >> 1963. >> 1963. >> 1963. >> Wow. Way before. >> Wow. Way before. >> Wow. Way before. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. >> Crazy. >> Crazy. >> Crazy. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Wow. Oh, wait. It's It was It was It >> Wow. Oh, wait. It's It was It was It >> Wow. Oh, wait. It's It was It was It originated as a Coca-Cola brand. So, originated as a Coca-Cola brand. So, originated as a Coca-Cola brand. So, they didn't buy it like they do most. they didn't buy it like they do most. they didn't buy it like they do most. >> No. So, I think what happened was Coke >> No. So, I think what happened was Coke >> No. So, I think what happened was Coke was afraid to offer a Diet Coke. So, was afraid to offer a Diet Coke. So, was afraid to offer a Diet Coke. So, they made Tab. And the whole thing was they made Tab. And the whole thing was they made Tab. And the whole thing was it was it was it was >> predecessor. >> predecessor. >> predecessor. >> It was like a a caloriefree soda. >> It was like a a caloriefree soda. >> It was like a a caloriefree soda. >> So, it was its own brand. Okay. Yep. So, >> So, it was its own brand. Okay. Yep. So, >> So, it was its own brand. Okay. Yep. 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What are your thoughts on the high rocks What are your thoughts on the high rocks What are your thoughts on the high rocks trend? trend? trend? >> I like it better than CrossFit. >> I like it better than CrossFit. >> I like it better than CrossFit. >> It's the competition. >> It's the competition. >> It's the competition. >> Crossfit lights. >> Crossfit lights. >> Crossfit lights. >> I mean, it's conditioning. It's CrossFit >> I mean, it's conditioning. It's CrossFit >> I mean, it's conditioning. It's CrossFit light. light. light. >> Yeah. It's like if you like >> Yeah. It's like if you like >> Yeah. It's like if you like conditioning, then it seems reasonable. conditioning, then it seems reasonable. conditioning, then it seems reasonable. >> They they tend to pick movements in >> They they tend to pick movements in >> They they tend to pick movements in combinations that are uh lower risk of combinations that are uh lower risk of combinations that are uh lower risk of injury. Still hard. You're still trying injury. Still hard. You're still trying injury. Still hard. You're still trying to tap into a wide spectrum ofility. to tap into a wide spectrum ofility. to tap into a wide spectrum ofility. It's a it I would say uh uh CrossFit was It's a it I would say uh uh CrossFit was It's a it I would say uh uh CrossFit was um 80 strength training, 20% um 80 strength training, 20% um 80 strength training, 20% cardiovascular. Hy Rocks is the flip. cardiovascular. Hy Rocks is the flip. cardiovascular. Hy Rocks is the flip. It's a little more cardiovascular It's a little more cardiovascular It's a little more cardiovascular focused and then focused and then focused and then >> they don't do Olympics. >> they don't do Olympics. >> they don't do Olympics. >> They don't have high Yeah. Olympic >> They don't have high Yeah. Olympic >> They don't have high Yeah. Olympic lifts. They don't have the high skill. lifts. They don't have the high skill. lifts. They don't have the high skill. >> They they flipped they flipped it a >> They they flipped they flipped it a >> They they flipped they flipped it a little bit more on the cardio side and little bit more on the cardio side and little bit more on the cardio side and and then that's really what they did. and then that's really what they did. and then that's really what they did. >> It's interesting, right, that there's >> It's interesting, right, that there's >> It's interesting, right, that there's these competitions that are athletic, these competitions that are athletic, these competitions that are athletic, but they're not. It's like exercise but they're not. It's like exercise but they're not. It's like exercise based. We're going to compete. based. We're going to compete. based. We're going to compete. >> It's weird to me. >> It's weird to me. >> It's weird to me. >> It's always been weird to me. I don't >> It's always been weird to me. I don't >> It's always been weird to me. I don't know cuz I guess I just know cuz I guess I just know cuz I guess I just >> I'm the best at >> I'm the best at >> I'm the best at >> exercising. I've always used exercising >> exercising. I've always used exercising >> exercising. I've always used exercising to perform better at a sport. to perform better at a sport. to perform better at a sport. >> It's also I mean you you always have to >> It's also I mean you you always have to >> It's also I mean you you always have to understand in uh the perspective that we understand in uh the perspective that we understand in uh the perspective that we come from when we answer someone like come from when we answer someone like come from when we answer someone like this too cuz I'm not I don't hate high this too cuz I'm not I don't hate high this too cuz I'm not I don't hate high rocks. I don't hate CrossFit. I don't rocks. I don't hate CrossFit. I don't rocks. I don't hate CrossFit. I don't it's not it's just that 90% of the it's not it's just that 90% of the it's not it's just that 90% of the people that we ever talk to or ever have people that we ever talk to or ever have people that we ever talk to or ever have to help or get that callers or questions to help or get that callers or questions to help or get that callers or questions or emails which is over the course of or emails which is over the course of or emails which is over the course of our career have now been millions uh are our career have now been millions uh are our career have now been millions uh are people that want to change their people that want to change their people that want to change their physique. They want to look a certain physique. They want to look a certain physique. They want to look a certain way. They want to lose body fat way. They want to lose body fat way. They want to lose body fat percentage. percentage. percentage. >> Um that and these modalities are not the >> Um that and these modalities are not the >> Um that and these modalities are not the best strategy best strategy best strategy >> fit in that goal >> fit in that goal >> fit in that goal >> long term for that. You know what I'm >> long term for that. You know what I'm >> long term for that. You know what I'm saying? It's a it's a it's a fun thing saying? It's a it's a it's a fun thing saying? It's a it's a it's a fun thing to do when you're in your 20s and early to do when you're in your 20s and early to do when you're in your 20s and early 30s and you like to challenge yourself 30s and you like to challenge yourself 30s and you like to challenge yourself and you and your buddies do awesome. and you and your buddies do awesome. and you and your buddies do awesome. Cool. But uh the client who comes that Cool. But uh the client who comes that Cool. But uh the client who comes that which is almost everybody that says I which is almost everybody that says I which is almost everybody that says I want to look this way. I want to lose want to look this way. I want to lose want to look this way. I want to lose body fat. I want to build muscle. It's body fat. I want to build muscle. It's body fat. I want to build muscle. It's just it's just not the right tool, you just it's just not the right tool, you just it's just not the right tool, you know, for it. know, for it. know, for it. >> And it's not it's not like a a a >> And it's not it's not like a a a >> And it's not it's not like a a a workout. It's a competition. workout. It's a competition. workout. It's a competition. >> Yeah. And it's not it's not sustainable. >> Yeah. And it's not it's not sustainable. >> Yeah. And it's not it's not sustainable. Like if like if if the goal for you is Like if like if if the goal for you is Like if like if if the goal for you is is just to be this healthy, fit, strong is just to be this healthy, fit, strong is just to be this healthy, fit, strong looking person for the rest of your looking person for the rest of your looking person for the rest of your life, uh competitionbased strength life, uh competitionbased strength life, uh competitionbased strength training, uh is is not the the approach. training, uh is is not the the approach. training, uh is is not the the approach. Could it serve a place in a in a in a Could it serve a place in a in a in a Could it serve a place in a in a in a block of time in your life? Sure, why block of time in your life? Sure, why block of time in your life? Sure, why not? not? not? >> Next question is from healthy but make >> Next question is from healthy but make >> Next question is from healthy but make it fun. Is maps anabolic advance good to it fun. Is maps anabolic advance good to it fun. Is maps anabolic advance good to run on a cut? What would be an run on a cut? What would be an run on a cut? What would be an alternative? If I just ran aesthetic, alternative? If I just ran aesthetic, alternative? If I just ran aesthetic, >> you always get this. >> you always get this. >> you always get this. >> Any program, any strength training >> Any program, any strength training >> Any program, any strength training program can be run on a cut. But I will program can be run on a cut. But I will program can be run on a cut. But I will say this, when you cut your calories to say this, when you cut your calories to say this, when you cut your calories to the point where they're below you're the point where they're below you're the point where they're below you're take what you're burning. In other take what you're burning. In other take what you're burning. In other words, you're burning more than you're words, you're burning more than you're words, you're burning more than you're taking in. So your body's losing weight, taking in. So your body's losing weight, taking in. So your body's losing weight, hopefully body fat, uh you want to hopefully body fat, uh you want to hopefully body fat, uh you want to reduce your your strength training reduce your your strength training reduce your your strength training volume and intensity, not the reverse. volume and intensity, not the reverse. volume and intensity, not the reverse. Everybody's the opposite. Everybody's Everybody's the opposite. Everybody's Everybody's the opposite. Everybody's like, "Oh, it's time to get leaner. let like, "Oh, it's time to get leaner. let like, "Oh, it's time to get leaner. let me cut my calories while simultaneously me cut my calories while simultaneously me cut my calories while simultaneously doing more more exercise and higher doing more more exercise and higher doing more more exercise and higher intensity. Um, that's actually setting intensity. Um, that's actually setting intensity. Um, that's actually setting yourself up for failure because lower yourself up for failure because lower yourself up for failure because lower calories means you have a reduced calories means you have a reduced calories means you have a reduced ability to adapt uh and recover. So, the ability to adapt uh and recover. So, the ability to adapt uh and recover. So, the best programs on a cut tend to be the best programs on a cut tend to be the best programs on a cut tend to be the lower volume ones lower volume ones lower volume ones >> and not the most intense either because >> and not the most intense either because >> and not the most intense either because your output is going to suffer when your output is going to suffer when your output is going to suffer when you're low calorie. So, you know, for you're low calorie. So, you know, for you're low calorie. So, you know, for maps anabolic advanced the maps anabolic maps anabolic advanced the maps anabolic maps anabolic advanced the maps anabolic to me, I would prefer you know you go to me, I would prefer you know you go to me, I would prefer you know you go that direction. that direction. that direction. >> You know what? Shame on us. We get this >> You know what? Shame on us. We get this >> You know what? Shame on us. We get this question so much and our trainer nuance question so much and our trainer nuance question so much and our trainer nuance brain resists answering this in a brain resists answering this in a brain resists answering this in a generic fashion. But what we should generic fashion. But what we should generic fashion. But what we should really do should have our editing team really do should have our editing team really do should have our editing team do this and we should create a little do this and we should create a little do this and we should create a little because because there there is uh because because there there is uh because because there there is uh anabolic any of the 15minute programs anabolic any of the 15minute programs anabolic any of the 15minute programs >> more often than not are better for >> more often than not are better for >> more often than not are better for >> are better for cuts. Uh yeah, you could >> are better for cuts. Uh yeah, you could >> are better for cuts. Uh yeah, you could you could generalize that because you could generalize that because you could generalize that because because here's because to what S is because here's because to what S is because here's because to what S is saying when you're in a calorie deficit, saying when you're in a calorie deficit, saying when you're in a calorie deficit, okay, when you're in a calorie deficit okay, when you're in a calorie deficit okay, when you're in a calorie deficit for cut, you're not building. for cut, you're not building. for cut, you're not building. >> So you just want to preserve muscle. >> So you just want to preserve muscle. >> So you just want to preserve muscle. >> Preserve >> Preserve >> Preserve >> and anything that is high volume or and >> and anything that is high volume or and >> and anything that is high volume or and or high intensity is is going to work or high intensity is is going to work or high intensity is is going to work against you in a calorie deficit. You're against you in a calorie deficit. You're against you in a calorie deficit. You're not building anything. You're not not building anything. You're not not building anything. You're not recovering as much. recovering as much. recovering as much. >> So So why why would you Exactly. And you >> So So why why would you Exactly. And you >> So So why why would you Exactly. And you don't have as much nutrients to recover. don't have as much nutrients to recover. don't have as much nutrients to recover. So why would you want to push the body So why would you want to push the body So why would you want to push the body any harder than what you were just doing any harder than what you were just doing any harder than what you were just doing before? So what you would want to do is before? So what you would want to do is before? So what you would want to do is really scale back intensity and volume really scale back intensity and volume really scale back intensity and volume and go into a cut. Now you now our our and go into a cut. Now you now our our and go into a cut. Now you now our our trainer our trainer brains that get in trainer our trainer brains that get in trainer our trainer brains that get in the way of answering this all the time the way of answering this all the time the way of answering this all the time is because we know it's more nuance and is because we know it's more nuance and is because we know it's more nuance and it's like I could take any program and it's like I could take any program and it's like I could take any program and tell somebody to reduce the volume and tell somebody to reduce the volume and tell somebody to reduce the volume and intensity and go in a cut and any intensity and go in a cut and any intensity and go in a cut and any program you can do a cut or but there program you can do a cut or but there program you can do a cut or but there are some generic there is a good general are some generic there is a good general are some generic there is a good general rule that we could probably tell people rule that we could probably tell people rule that we could probably tell people like hey these programs are served best like hey these programs are served best like hey these programs are served best in a cut. Yeah, these program like like in a cut. Yeah, these program like like in a cut. Yeah, these program like like another program would be terrible in a another program would be terrible in a another program would be terrible in a cut is like performance uh aesthetic cut is like performance uh aesthetic cut is like performance uh aesthetic >> aesthetic uh split. Yeah, these are all >> aesthetic uh split. Yeah, these are all >> aesthetic uh split. Yeah, these are all high volume high yeah high high volume high yeah high high volume high yeah high >> intensity. Yeah, people like programs >> intensity. Yeah, people like programs >> intensity. Yeah, people like programs like split and aesthetic are the ones like split and aesthetic are the ones like split and aesthetic are the ones that people like to try to that people like to try to that people like to try to >> Right. So those programs are not ideal. >> Right. So those programs are not ideal. >> Right. So those programs are not ideal. Now those are great to run in a bulk or Now those are great to run in a bulk or Now those are great to run in a bulk or a reverse diet before you go into a cut. a reverse diet before you go into a cut. a reverse diet before you go into a cut. Then when you switch over to cut, run a Then when you switch over to cut, run a Then when you switch over to cut, run a lower volume type of program. So maybe lower volume type of program. So maybe lower volume type of program. So maybe we should put together something that we should put together something that we should put together something that explains that in explains that in explains that in >> we have a lot of 15 options to your >> we have a lot of 15 options to your >> we have a lot of 15 options to your point. So I mean I think that would be a point. So I mean I think that would be a point. So I mean I think that would be a good uh good uh good uh >> right that would be like so it' be like >> right that would be like so it' be like >> right that would be like so it' be like this uh best programs to run in a cut this uh best programs to run in a cut this uh best programs to run in a cut and then we list all the ones like all and then we list all the ones like all and then we list all the ones like all the mass 15s mosabolic probably there the mass 15s mosabolic probably there the mass 15s mosabolic probably there programs best run in a in a surplus or programs best run in a in a surplus or programs best run in a in a surplus or maintenance and then we list all the maintenance and then we list all the maintenance and then we list all the other ones just to keep it cut dry even other ones just to keep it cut dry even other ones just to keep it cut dry even though the truth is you could do any of though the truth is you could do any of though the truth is you could do any of it but I think that would help a lot of it but I think that would help a lot of it but I think that would help a lot of people. Next question is from untamed people. Next question is from untamed people. Next question is from untamed fitness AU. How do you train your client fitness AU. How do you train your client fitness AU. How do you train your client who just had a breast augmentation and who just had a breast augmentation and who just had a breast augmentation and is very athletic and returning? What are is very athletic and returning? What are is very athletic and returning? What are the top exercises? the top exercises? the top exercises? >> So this depends on uh what kind of >> So this depends on uh what kind of >> So this depends on uh what kind of augmentation? My answer depends on it. augmentation? My answer depends on it. augmentation? My answer depends on it. So if it's under the muscle versus over So if it's under the muscle versus over So if it's under the muscle versus over the muscle. Now majority of the muscle. Now majority of the muscle. Now majority of augmentations augmentations augmentations uh done today are under the muscle. when uh done today are under the muscle. when uh done today are under the muscle. when it's under the muscle, you will get it's under the muscle, you will get it's under the muscle, you will get clearance from your doctor for exercise, clearance from your doctor for exercise, clearance from your doctor for exercise, but in my experience with clients and but in my experience with clients and but in my experience with clients and also working with um plastic surgeons also working with um plastic surgeons also working with um plastic surgeons who do this, you're you're better off who do this, you're you're better off who do this, you're you're better off avoiding any chest exercise for like a avoiding any chest exercise for like a avoiding any chest exercise for like a year. So, if it's under the muscle, year. So, if it's under the muscle, year. So, if it's under the muscle, >> don't train your chest for a year. Now, >> don't train your chest for a year. Now, >> don't train your chest for a year. Now, what you want to do is you want to focus what you want to do is you want to focus what you want to do is you want to focus on strengthening your midback. on strengthening your midback. on strengthening your midback. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You want to work on shoulder mobility. >> You want to work on shoulder mobility. >> You want to work on shoulder mobility. You want to maintain a good range of You want to maintain a good range of You want to maintain a good range of motion with your shoulder. Good scapular motion with your shoulder. Good scapular motion with your shoulder. Good scapular mobility, mobility, mobility, >> strengthen the upper midback. >> strengthen the upper midback. >> strengthen the upper midback. >> You could train the rest of the body, >> You could train the rest of the body, >> You could train the rest of the body, but you want to avoid chest exercises but you want to avoid chest exercises but you want to avoid chest exercises for a while because when you contract for a while because when you contract for a while because when you contract the pecs, they press on the implant and the pecs, they press on the implant and the pecs, they press on the implant and it can cause it to move and do different it can cause it to move and do different it can cause it to move and do different things. Um, and so you want to take like things. Um, and so you want to take like things. Um, and so you want to take like a year off. Now, if it's on top of the a year off. Now, if it's on top of the a year off. Now, if it's on top of the muscle, when you're clear, go ahead and muscle, when you're clear, go ahead and muscle, when you're clear, go ahead and work out. Really doesn't change much. work out. Really doesn't change much. work out. Really doesn't change much. But under the muscle, wait a year. I I But under the muscle, wait a year. I I But under the muscle, wait a year. I I mean all I even both I would my all my mean all I even both I would my all my mean all I even both I would my all my clients uh that had implants we clients uh that had implants we clients uh that had implants we basically took any sort of uh chest basically took any sort of uh chest basically took any sort of uh chest exercise volume switched it to upper exercise volume switched it to upper exercise volume switched it to upper upper back stuff upper back stuff upper back stuff >> and that that is the because it it it >> and that that is the because it it it >> and that that is the because it it it after the surgery you're going to be after the surgery you're going to be after the surgery you're going to be tight and they it will start to round tight and they it will start to round tight and they it will start to round the shoulders round the shoulders the shoulders round the shoulders the shoulders round the shoulders >> the shoulder becomes an issue >> the shoulder becomes an issue >> the shoulder becomes an issue >> and yes and so uh any sort of shoulder >> and yes and so uh any sort of shoulder >> and yes and so uh any sort of shoulder scapula mobility stuff and upper back scapula mobility stuff and upper back scapula mobility stuff and upper back exercises to develop those muscles and exercises to develop those muscles and exercises to develop those muscles and strengthen that posture strengthen that posture strengthen that posture for a year. That's the main focus. And for a year. That's the main focus. And for a year. That's the main focus. And then if and only if we had chest, it's then if and only if we had chest, it's then if and only if we had chest, it's like some incline press and that's it. like some incline press and that's it. like some incline press and that's it. And and it's not very much and you don't And and it's not very much and you don't And and it's not very much and you don't have to do it. You absolutely uh could have to do it. You absolutely uh could have to do it. You absolutely uh could get away with not doing it. get away with not doing it. get away with not doing it. >> The thing you want to be careful for >> The thing you want to be careful for >> The thing you want to be careful for with the chest exercises, you could with the chest exercises, you could with the chest exercises, you could actually cause movement with the actually cause movement with the actually cause movement with the implants and and make the capsule implants and and make the capsule implants and and make the capsule >> that's why the larger and so then you'll >> that's why the larger and so then you'll >> that's why the larger and so then you'll see like see like see like >> risk versus reward isn't is wasn't there >> risk versus reward isn't is wasn't there >> risk versus reward isn't is wasn't there for that person, you know. So we're not for that person, you know. So we're not for that person, you know. So we're not we're not really trying to develop we're not really trying to develop we're not really trying to develop obviously that area. You you've bought obviously that area. You you've bought obviously that area. You you've bought it. So, we're focusing on the upper back it. So, we're focusing on the upper back it. So, we're focusing on the upper back to hold you upright in good posture. to hold you upright in good posture. to hold you upright in good posture. >> Next question is from Jacquelin Lin Man. >> Next question is from Jacquelin Lin Man. >> Next question is from Jacquelin Lin Man. How to progress towards repping How to progress towards repping How to progress towards repping pull-ups? I'm at a point where I can do pull-ups? I'm at a point where I can do pull-ups? I'm at a point where I can do two or three, but would like to be able two or three, but would like to be able two or three, but would like to be able to do more. to do more. to do more. >> The best way to get better at anything >> The best way to get better at anything >> The best way to get better at anything is to practice it often. So, we tend to is to practice it often. So, we tend to is to practice it often. So, we tend to look at this for like a strength issue, look at this for like a strength issue, look at this for like a strength issue, and that's part of it, but it is a and that's part of it, but it is a and that's part of it, but it is a skill. So, if you could do two or three skill. So, if you could do two or three skill. So, if you could do two or three pull-ups, what you would do is several pull-ups, what you would do is several pull-ups, what you would do is several times a day, you would do one. one. times a day, you would do one. one. times a day, you would do one. one. >> That's it every day. Maybe take a day >> That's it every day. Maybe take a day >> That's it every day. Maybe take a day off here or there. off here or there. off here or there. >> So, you do like 10 throughout the entire >> So, you do like 10 throughout the entire >> So, you do like 10 throughout the entire day or 12. But it's just one. day or 12. But it's just one. day or 12. But it's just one. >> You just do you just do one, >> You just do you just do one, >> You just do you just do one, >> walk by it, two hours later do another >> walk by it, two hours later do another >> walk by it, two hours later do another one. And it's got to feel easy. It's got one. And it's got to feel easy. It's got one. And it's got to feel easy. It's got to feel relatively easy like you're to feel relatively easy like you're to feel relatively easy like you're practicing it. practicing it. practicing it. >> Take days off if you feel any soreness >> Take days off if you feel any soreness >> Take days off if you feel any soreness or tightness or it starts to get hard. or tightness or it starts to get hard. or tightness or it starts to get hard. And over time, this is the fastest way And over time, this is the fastest way And over time, this is the fastest way to be able to rep pull-ups I've ever to be able to rep pull-ups I've ever to be able to rep pull-ups I've ever >> y >> y >> y >> ever seen in my life. I've had many >> ever seen in my life. I've had many >> ever seen in my life. I've had many clients go from being able to do two or clients go from being able to do two or clients go from being able to do two or three to doing eight or 10 over just three to doing eight or 10 over just three to doing eight or 10 over just months of this protocol. And now, what months of this protocol. And now, what months of this protocol. And now, what about their back workouts? We actually about their back workouts? We actually about their back workouts? We actually avoided doing a lot of back exercises uh avoided doing a lot of back exercises uh avoided doing a lot of back exercises uh because they were doing pull-ups here because they were doing pull-ups here because they were doing pull-ups here and there every day. Yeah. and there every day. Yeah. and there every day. Yeah. >> And just practicing this movement. You >> And just practicing this movement. You >> And just practicing this movement. You get really good really fast if you get really good really fast if you get really good really fast if you practice this way. All right. I know you practice this way. All right. I know you practice this way. All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check like that episode. If you did, check like that episode. If you did, check this one out. Walking. It's one of the this one out. Walking. It's one of the this one out. Walking. It's one of the best things you could do for your best things you could do for your best things you could do for your health, bar none. But there's a better health, bar none. But there's a better health, bar none. But there's a better way to approach it. Yes, you can just way to approach it. Yes, you can just way to approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but if you follow the right walk, but if you follow the right walk, but if you follow the right protocol, it's far more effective. Let's protocol, it's far more effective. Let's protocol, it's far more effective. Let's talk about talk about talk about >> walking. I can't wait to hear your >> walking. I can't wait to hear your >> walking. I can't wait to hear your walking protocol. walking protocol. walking protocol. >> Well, there is. Well, there is a >> Well, there is. Well, there is a >> Well, there is. Well, there is a protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the first thing, right? Cuz just first off, first thing, right? Cuz just first off, first thing, right? Cuz just first off, uh let me start with this. One of the uh let me start with this. One of the uh let me start with this. One of the reasons why walking um is such a great reasons why walking um is such a great reasons why walking um is such a great form of just activity is because it's form of just activity is because it's form of just activity is because it's low risk of injury. Now some