Mike Posner: I Had Fame, Money, and Success… But I Was Still Empty!

I was letting this part of my nature die I was letting this part of my nature die underneath all these lies I was telling underneath all these lies I was telling underneath all these lies I was telling myself. And life told me in that moment, myself. And life told me in that moment, myself. And life told me in that moment, it gave me the message clear. Face the it gave me the message clear. Face the it gave me the message clear. Face the fear or we're going to give you louder fear or we're going to give you louder fear or we're going to give you louder warning signals. The pain's going to get warning signals. The pain's going to get warning signals. The pain's going to get worse until you wake up. So, I had a worse until you wake up. So, I had a worse until you wake up. So, I had a choice, a crossroads. It was like, I'm choice, a crossroads. It was like, I'm choice, a crossroads. It was like, I'm either going to change my emotional set either going to change my emotional set either going to change my emotional set point. I'm going to stop lying to point. I'm going to stop lying to point. I'm going to stop lying to myself, which I had these stories. I'm myself, which I had these stories. I'm myself, which I had these stories. I'm going to avoid in person. relationships going to avoid in person. relationships going to avoid in person. relationships are hard, you know, my relationships are hard, you know, my relationships are hard, you know, my relationships don't work out. Give up all these don't work out. Give up all these don't work out. Give up all these stories rooted in the past, rooted in stories rooted in the past, rooted in stories rooted in the past, rooted in fear, and step into who I really am. 60 fear, and step into who I really am. 60 fear, and step into who I really am. 60 years old and people knock on the door, years old and people knock on the door, years old and people knock on the door, Mike, how you doing? I got a big fake Mike, how you doing? I got a big fake Mike, how you doing? I got a big fake smile on my face. I'm doing good, but smile on my face. I'm doing good, but smile on my face. I'm doing good, but inside I'm a I'm a lonely man. That's inside I'm a I'm a lonely man. That's inside I'm a I'm a lonely man. That's where my life was headed. where my life was headed. where my life was headed. >> My gosh, bro. or is face the fear and >> My gosh, bro. or is face the fear and >> My gosh, bro. or is face the fear and it's a whole bunch of expansion, growth, it's a whole bunch of expansion, growth, it's a whole bunch of expansion, growth, freedom, beauty, joy, faith, love, some freedom, beauty, joy, faith, love, some freedom, beauty, joy, faith, love, some pain also, right? There's pain on the pain also, right? There's pain on the pain also, right? There's pain on the journey, but way less suffering, right? journey, but way less suffering, right? journey, but way less suffering, right? And so that was it. That was the turning And so that was it. That was the turning And so that was it. That was the turning point and I have not looked back. All right, welcome back to the show All right, welcome back to the show everybody. So, I was thinking about this everybody. So, I was thinking about this everybody. So, I was thinking about this guy this morning. I'm so excited. I got guy this morning. I'm so excited. I got guy this morning. I'm so excited. I got to talk with him. I've been waiting to talk with him. I've been waiting to talk with him. I've been waiting about six months to do it. I think he's about six months to do it. I think he's about six months to do it. I think he's the most interesting man in the world. the most interesting man in the world. the most interesting man in the world. You guys remember those Doseekis You guys remember those Doseekis You guys remember those Doseekis commercials where the guy's like the commercials where the guy's like the commercials where the guy's like the most interesting man in the world? I'm most interesting man in the world? I'm most interesting man in the world? I'm pretty sure this guy qualifies and I'm pretty sure this guy qualifies and I'm pretty sure this guy qualifies and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. This not exaggerating when I say that. This not exaggerating when I say that. This is going to be such a compelling is going to be such a compelling is going to be such a compelling conversation today. Let me throw a few conversation today. Let me throw a few conversation today. Let me throw a few things at you. Grammy nominated. I took things at you. Grammy nominated. I took things at you. Grammy nominated. I took a pill in a beza. You all know that a pill in a beza. You all know that a pill in a beza. You all know that song. Cooler than me. Great song. That's song. Cooler than me. Great song. That's song. Cooler than me. Great song. That's just two of a whole bunch of them, just two of a whole bunch of them, just two of a whole bunch of them, right? But on top of that, the same guy right? But on top of that, the same guy right? But on top of that, the same guy who's done all that, he's climbed Mount who's done all that, he's climbed Mount who's done all that, he's climbed Mount Everest. He's done the 31 mile Everest. He's done the 31 mile Everest. He's done the 31 mile Continental Divide trail journey trek. Continental Divide trail journey trek. Continental Divide trail journey trek. He's hiked across America 2900 plus He's hiked across America 2900 plus He's hiked across America 2900 plus miles. He's been bitten by a rattlesnake miles. He's been bitten by a rattlesnake miles. He's been bitten by a rattlesnake on top of it and almost died. And he's on top of it and almost died. And he's on top of it and almost died. And he's like got this very gentle, kind spirit like got this very gentle, kind spirit like got this very gentle, kind spirit about him. He's also gone through like a about him. He's also gone through like a about him. He's also gone through like a major life transition as well. But like, major life transition as well. But like, major life transition as well. But like, and this is all in 37 years, so I'm and this is all in 37 years, so I'm and this is all in 37 years, so I'm pretty sure he qualifies for the pretty sure he qualifies for the pretty sure he qualifies for the category. Mike Pner, finally, welcome to category. Mike Pner, finally, welcome to category. Mike Pner, finally, welcome to the show, brother. Great to have you. the show, brother. Great to have you. the show, brother. Great to have you. >> Hey, and good good to meet you and >> Hey, and good good to meet you and >> Hey, and good good to meet you and thanks for having me on. And you know, thanks for having me on. And you know, thanks for having me on. And you know, um, it's humbling to hear that um, it's humbling to hear that um, it's humbling to hear that introduction, introduction, introduction, but you know, all those things that I've but you know, all those things that I've but you know, all those things that I've done, they've been amazing, and I'm done, they've been amazing, and I'm done, they've been amazing, and I'm mostly proud of them. Although I'm also mostly proud of them. Although I'm also mostly proud of them. Although I'm also keenly aware that some non-trivial part keenly aware that some non-trivial part keenly aware that some non-trivial part of the inspiration to do them was I was of the inspiration to do them was I was of the inspiration to do them was I was addicted to getting other people to like addicted to getting other people to like addicted to getting other people to like me and me and me and they're not my biggest accomplishment. they're not my biggest accomplishment. they're not my biggest accomplishment. The even all those add up together on The even all those add up together on The even all those add up together on the external. My biggest accomplishment the external. My biggest accomplishment the external. My biggest accomplishment is I went from somebody whose emotional is I went from somebody whose emotional is I went from somebody whose emotional home base, their set point, home base, their set point, home base, their set point, was depressed, was negative was depressed, was negative was depressed, was negative to somebody whose emotional set point to somebody whose emotional set point to somebody whose emotional set point now is joy, faith, and love. And now is joy, faith, and love. And now is joy, faith, and love. And not saying I don't dip down every once not saying I don't dip down every once not saying I don't dip down every once in a while, and sometimes I go even in a while, and sometimes I go even in a while, and sometimes I go even higher, you know, have moments of bliss higher, you know, have moments of bliss higher, you know, have moments of bliss and ecstasy. But you can change your and ecstasy. But you can change your and ecstasy. But you can change your emotional set point. And that's my emotional set point. And that's my emotional set point. And that's my greatest achievement. greatest achievement. greatest achievement. And I hope um I hope that we can put And I hope um I hope that we can put And I hope um I hope that we can put other people on the path of doing the other people on the path of doing the other people on the path of doing the same thing because it's possible. If my same thing because it's possible. If my same thing because it's possible. If my if my depraved rear end could do it, if my depraved rear end could do it, if my depraved rear end could do it, then anybody can. then anybody can. then anybody can. >> I've had 850 shows. I think that's >> I've had 850 shows. I think that's >> I've had 850 shows. I think that's literally the best opening sentence of literally the best opening sentence of literally the best opening sentence of any guest out of 850. No disrespect. We any guest out of 850. No disrespect. We any guest out of 850. No disrespect. We usually ease into the good stuff. You're usually ease into the good stuff. You're usually ease into the good stuff. You're already getting off to a fast start already getting off to a fast start already getting off to a fast start here. here. here. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> No, it's awesome, man. So, let me ask >> No, it's awesome, man. So, let me ask >> No, it's awesome, man. So, let me ask you. Let's just let's just start there. you. Let's just let's just start there. you. Let's just let's just start there. We're going to let this thing flow. By We're going to let this thing flow. By We're going to let this thing flow. By the way, I relate to that set point the way, I relate to that set point the way, I relate to that set point being kind of dep I don't know if I'd being kind of dep I don't know if I'd being kind of dep I don't know if I'd call mine depressed. I'd call it kind of call mine depressed. I'd call it kind of call mine depressed. I'd call it kind of melancholy. melancholy. melancholy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? I I relate to that >> You know what I mean? I I relate to that >> You know what I mean? I I relate to that very much and I think a lot of people very much and I think a lot of people very much and I think a lot of people do. So, is there some way you would say do. So, is there some way you would say do. So, is there some way you would say initially there was a catalyst to change initially there was a catalyst to change initially there was a catalyst to change that? Did you hit a bottom of some type that? Did you hit a bottom of some type that? Did you hit a bottom of some type or and what did you do to begin the or and what did you do to begin the or and what did you do to begin the journey upwards? journey upwards? journey upwards? >> Yeah, man. Like I had accomplished all >> Yeah, man. Like I had accomplished all >> Yeah, man. Like I had accomplished all these things. I had walked across these things. I had walked across these things. I had walked across America. I climbed the tallest mountain America. I climbed the tallest mountain America. I climbed the tallest mountain in the world Everest. I had millions of in the world Everest. I had millions of in the world Everest. I had millions of dollars, millions of followers, dollars, millions of followers, dollars, millions of followers, everything that a perfect life was everything that a perfect life was everything that a perfect life was supposed to be on the outside. supposed to be on the outside. supposed to be on the outside. >> Even listen to this, I even had an >> Even listen to this, I even had an >> Even listen to this, I even had an Instagram account full of followers that Instagram account full of followers that Instagram account full of followers that I had convinced I was inspiring, I had convinced I was inspiring, I had convinced I was inspiring, right? I was already, you know, right? I was already, you know, right? I was already, you know, teaching, selling people to dream that I teaching, selling people to dream that I teaching, selling people to dream that I got it figured out. And then I remember got it figured out. And then I remember got it figured out. And then I remember I was at my home in Michigan I was at my home in Michigan I was at my home in Michigan and and and it it just was like the ju the juice it it just was like the ju the juice it it just was like the ju the juice ain't here. ain't here. ain't here. >> I am and I remember this year >> I am and I remember this year >> I am and I remember this year I was eating clean. I was doing the ice I was eating clean. I was doing the ice I was eating clean. I was doing the ice bath. I wasn't actually my body looked bath. I wasn't actually my body looked bath. I wasn't actually my body looked beautiful but I kept getting sick beautiful but I kept getting sick beautiful but I kept getting sick >> and I kept getting depressed and I >> and I kept getting depressed and I >> and I kept getting depressed and I couldn't figure out why. Like what what couldn't figure out why. Like what what couldn't figure out why. Like what what is what is missing here? is what is missing here? is what is missing here? I got everything on the external I got everything on the external I got everything on the external including the supposed to be health including the supposed to be health including the supposed to be health right I'm doing all the right stuff and right I'm doing all the right stuff and right I'm doing all the right stuff and what is not working but something was what is not working but something was what is not working but something was not working and everything was not working and everything was not working and everything was irritating me I got this lakefront home irritating me I got this lakefront home irritating me I got this lakefront home I'd get out of the ice bath I'd look in I'd get out of the ice bath I'd look in I'd get out of the ice bath I'd look in the reflection on the sliding door and the reflection on the sliding door and the reflection on the sliding door and like if my abs didn't look just perfect like if my abs didn't look just perfect like if my abs didn't look just perfect I was upset with myself something's I was upset with myself something's I was upset with myself something's wrong I'd go in that sliding door and my wrong I'd go in that sliding door and my wrong I'd go in that sliding door and my mom was there cuz I knew what a good mom was there cuz I knew what a good mom was there cuz I knew what a good person was supposed to act like a good person was supposed to act like a good person was supposed to act like a good person that they're kind to their mother person that they're kind to their mother person that they're kind to their mother there. So, I had invited my mom up to there. So, I had invited my mom up to there. So, I had invited my mom up to stay at the house for a week, but she stay at the house for a week, but she stay at the house for a week, but she was putting some dishes away and the was putting some dishes away and the was putting some dishes away and the sound of the dishes clanging against sound of the dishes clanging against sound of the dishes clanging against each other. It was like sandpaper each other. It was like sandpaper each other. It was like sandpaper grading against my my very being. Like grading against my my very being. Like grading against my my very being. Like everything irritated me. And then I everything irritated me. And then I everything irritated me. And then I remember I went downstairs and I I remember I went downstairs and I I remember I went downstairs and I I checked my phone and I had a message checked my phone and I had a message checked my phone and I had a message from uh one of my managers at the time from uh one of my managers at the time from uh one of my managers at the time and it was a screenshot and he goes, "I and it was a screenshot and he goes, "I and it was a screenshot and he goes, "I just need to know if this is true." And just need to know if this is true." And just need to know if this is true." And it was a screenshot of from Instagram it was a screenshot of from Instagram it was a screenshot of from Instagram and someone said uh a a singer who and someone said uh a a singer who and someone said uh a a singer who walked across America got my friend walked across America got my friend walked across America got my friend pregnant and abandoned the child. pregnant and abandoned the child. pregnant and abandoned the child. And I said And I said And I said I knew I didn't abandon a child because I knew I didn't abandon a child because I knew I didn't abandon a child because I would never do that. I would never do that. I would never do that. But the way I was living my life, But the way I was living my life, But the way I was living my life, I wasn't sure that I hadn't had a child I wasn't sure that I hadn't had a child I wasn't sure that I hadn't had a child and maybe the person just never told me and maybe the person just never told me and maybe the person just never told me cuz I was being sloppy with my energy cuz I was being sloppy with my energy cuz I was being sloppy with my energy and I was afraid of intimacy. So I would and I was afraid of intimacy. So I would and I was afraid of intimacy. So I would get in weird relationships, one night get in weird relationships, one night get in weird relationships, one night stands on the road, things like this. stands on the road, things like this. stands on the road, things like this. And I I wasn't sure. I'm like, "Dude, do And I I wasn't sure. I'm like, "Dude, do And I I wasn't sure. I'm like, "Dude, do I have a kid out there?" I have a kid out there?" I have a kid out there?" And the stress of all these things start And the stress of all these things start And the stress of all these things start add on to one thing after another. And I add on to one thing after another. And I add on to one thing after another. And I I I called my friend Doug and I go, "Hey I I called my friend Doug and I go, "Hey I I called my friend Doug and I go, "Hey man, like I need help. man, like I need help. man, like I need help. I I I either need like a the highlevel I I I either need like a the highlevel I I I either need like a the highlevel therapist cuz you know I have I have a therapist cuz you know I have I have a therapist cuz you know I have I have a freaking ego right at the time. Like I'm freaking ego right at the time. Like I'm freaking ego right at the time. Like I'm special. So I need like some special special. So I need like some special special. So I need like some special therapist who like knows about famous therapist who like knows about famous therapist who like knows about famous people or I need some highle life coach, people or I need some highle life coach, people or I need some highle life coach, you know, that gets it." you know, that gets it." you know, that gets it." So Doug, he goes, "Well, you could just So Doug, he goes, "Well, you could just So Doug, he goes, "Well, you could just talk to me." I said, "With all due talk to me." I said, "With all due talk to me." I said, "With all due respect, he's one of my best friends." I respect, he's one of my best friends." I respect, he's one of my best friends." I go, "You're about to have a child." And go, "You're about to have a child." And go, "You're about to have a child." And I got I got a lot of problems. I got I got a lot of problems. I got I got a lot of problems. So, if I had just one, come on. I' I'd So, if I had just one, come on. I' I'd So, if I had just one, come on. I' I'd ask you for help. But these things are ask you for help. But these things are ask you for help. But these things are stacking. And before I would get over stacking. And before I would get over stacking. And before I would get over the one, another one was hitting. And the one, another one was hitting. And the one, another one was hitting. And and and I was overwhelmed. and and I was overwhelmed. and and I was overwhelmed. >> And I think a lot of people know that >> And I think a lot of people know that >> And I think a lot of people know that feeling like I'm just underwater with feeling like I'm just underwater with feeling like I'm just underwater with problems. Yes. problems. Yes. problems. Yes. >> And >> And >> And >> great description. >> great description. >> great description. >> And so he said, "Okay." And a few days >> And so he said, "Okay." And a few days >> And so he said, "Okay." And a few days passed and then he forward forwarded me passed and then he forward forwarded me passed and then he forward forwarded me a voice note. And the voice note was a voice note. And the voice note was a voice note. And the voice note was from Tony Robbins. from Tony Robbins. from Tony Robbins. >> And Tony said, "Mike Doug shared a >> And Tony said, "Mike Doug shared a >> And Tony said, "Mike Doug shared a little bit with me about your story and little bit with me about your story and little bit with me about your story and I'd be honored if you came to my event, I'd be honored if you came to my event, I'd be honored if you came to my event, Date with Destiny, as my guest in Date with Destiny, as my guest in Date with Destiny, as my guest in December." And it it was like, you know, December." And it it was like, you know, December." And it it was like, you know, August. I was like, "What the hell do I August. I was like, "What the hell do I August. I was like, "What the hell do I do till then, you know? Right. do till then, you know? Right. do till then, you know? Right. >> But uh and I almost didn't go. I was >> But uh and I almost didn't go. I was >> But uh and I almost didn't go. I was like, man, that's kind of far. But like, man, that's kind of far. But like, man, that's kind of far. But that's my whole life was like that's my whole life was like that's my whole life was like just kind of negative. I'd look for the just kind of negative. I'd look for the just kind of negative. I'd look for the negative in it. negative in it. negative in it. >> So anyways, Doug said, "You got to go, >> So anyways, Doug said, "You got to go, >> So anyways, Doug said, "You got to go, man." So in December came around, I I man." So in December came around, I I man." So in December came around, I I went to the conference and I was a went to the conference and I was a went to the conference and I was a little skeptical at first. I was sick little skeptical at first. I was sick little skeptical at first. I was sick again and I was like, "Dude, should I again and I was like, "Dude, should I again and I was like, "Dude, should I even like do this?" Listen, even like do this?" Listen, even like do this?" Listen, there came a moment. I think it was the there came a moment. I think it was the there came a moment. I think it was the third day of the conference and Tony's third day of the conference and Tony's third day of the conference and Tony's leading some some exercise. By the way, leading some some exercise. By the way, leading some some exercise. By the way, I love Tony. Changed my life. I love Tony. Changed my life. I love Tony. Changed my life. >> Love Tony. >> Love Tony. >> Love Tony. >> He he's leading some exercise and he >> He he's leading some exercise and he >> He he's leading some exercise and he didn't teach this. He was doing some didn't teach this. He was doing some didn't teach this. He was doing some kind of meditation thing like a kind of meditation thing like a kind of meditation thing like a visualization and he didn't say this in visualization and he didn't say this in visualization and he didn't say this in the in the activation, but it's like God the in the activation, but it's like God the in the activation, but it's like God just spoke to me in the moment. It it just spoke to me in the moment. It it just spoke to me in the moment. It it just landed in my nervous system in a just landed in my nervous system in a just landed in my nervous system in a way I knew was true. It was like you are way I knew was true. It was like you are way I knew was true. It was like you are getting sick, you are getting depressed getting sick, you are getting depressed getting sick, you are getting depressed because you are avoiding the fact that because you are avoiding the fact that because you are avoiding the fact that you are scared to death of you are scared to death of you are scared to death of relationships. You're scared of relationships. You're scared of relationships. You're scared of intimacy. And until you address that and intimacy. And until you address that and intimacy. And until you address that and face that fear, life, hey, life, I'm face that fear, life, hey, life, I'm face that fear, life, hey, life, I'm only giving you pain to wake you up only giving you pain to wake you up only giving you pain to wake you up because I want you to go this way so you because I want you to go this way so you because I want you to go this way so you can have what you actually deserve, what can have what you actually deserve, what can have what you actually deserve, what you're actually here for. you're actually here for. you're actually here for. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You got to stop lying to yourself. >> You got to stop lying to yourself. >> You got to stop lying to yourself. Because I had this whole story, you Because I had this whole story, you Because I had this whole story, you know, if if love happens, great, but I'm know, if if love happens, great, but I'm know, if if love happens, great, but I'm not really looking for it. The truth and not really looking for it. The truth and not really looking for it. The truth and I believed myself, but the truth I believed myself, but the truth I believed myself, but the truth underneath all that was I I I really underneath all that was I I I really underneath all that was I I I really wanted to have love. I really wanted to wanted to have love. I really wanted to wanted to have love. I really wanted to have a family. I was I'm here to have a have a family. I was I'm here to have a have a family. I was I'm here to have a family. You know, we we as men, we're family. You know, we we as men, we're family. You know, we we as men, we're here to provide. We're here to protect, here to provide. We're here to protect, here to provide. We're here to protect, right? It's part of our nature. right? It's part of our nature. right? It's part of our nature. >> And so, I was letting this part of my >> And so, I was letting this part of my >> And so, I was letting this part of my nature die underneath all these lies I nature die underneath all these lies I nature die underneath all these lies I was telling myself. and life told me in was telling myself. and life told me in was telling myself. and life told me in that moment or you know I call it God I that moment or you know I call it God I that moment or you know I call it God I believe in God but for some people maybe believe in God but for some people maybe believe in God but for some people maybe they don't like that word the word they don't like that word the word they don't like that word the word doesn't matter you know whether you call doesn't matter you know whether you call doesn't matter you know whether you call it life with a capital L I think God and it life with a capital L I think God and it life with a capital L I think God and life are in many ways synonymous I think life are in many ways synonymous I think life are in many ways synonymous I think God life love maybe all one thing is God life love maybe all one thing is God life love maybe all one thing is above my pay grade but whatever it is it above my pay grade but whatever it is it above my pay grade but whatever it is it gave me the message clear face the fear gave me the message clear face the fear gave me the message clear face the fear or we're going to give you louder or we're going to give you louder or we're going to give you louder warnings signals. The pain's going to warnings signals. The pain's going to warnings signals. The pain's going to get worse until you wake up. So, I had a get worse until you wake up. So, I had a get worse until you wake up. So, I had a choice, a crossroads. It was like, I'm choice, a crossroads. It was like, I'm choice, a crossroads. It was like, I'm either going to change my emotional set either going to change my emotional set either going to change my emotional set point. I'm going to stop lying to point. I'm going to stop lying to point. I'm going to stop lying to myself, which I had these stories. I'm myself, which I had these stories. I'm myself, which I had these stories. I'm an avoidant person. Relationships are an avoidant person. Relationships are an avoidant person. Relationships are hard. You know, my relationships don't hard. You know, my relationships don't hard. You know, my relationships don't work out. Give up all these stories work out. Give up all these stories work out. Give up all these stories rooted in the past, rooted in fear, and rooted in the past, rooted in fear, and rooted in the past, rooted in fear, and step into who I really am, which is a step into who I really am, which is a step into who I really am, which is a man, a leader. And it's one or the man, a leader. And it's one or the man, a leader. And it's one or the other. you're gonna go that way. And I other. you're gonna go that way. And I other. you're gonna go that way. And I knew where that was going to end. If I knew where that was going to end. If I knew where that was going to end. If I if I kept going the way I was, I was if I kept going the way I was, I was if I kept going the way I was, I was going to be the dude with, you know, going to be the dude with, you know, going to be the dude with, you know, six-pack abs and millions of dollars at six-pack abs and millions of dollars at six-pack abs and millions of dollars at his mansion alone. his mansion alone. his mansion alone. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> 60 years old and people knocking on the >> 60 years old and people knocking on the >> 60 years old and people knocking on the door, Mike, how you doing? And I got a door, Mike, how you doing? And I got a door, Mike, how you doing? And I got a big fake smile on my face. I'm doing big fake smile on my face. I'm doing big fake smile on my face. I'm doing good, but inside I'm a I'm a lonely man. good, but inside I'm a I'm a lonely man. good, but inside I'm a I'm a lonely man. That's where my life was headed. That's where my life was headed. That's where my life was headed. >> My gosh, bro. and and or is face the >> My gosh, bro. and and or is face the >> My gosh, bro. and and or is face the fear and it's a whole bunch of fear and it's a whole bunch of fear and it's a whole bunch of expansion, growth, freedom, beauty, joy, expansion, growth, freedom, beauty, joy, expansion, growth, freedom, beauty, joy, faith, love, some pain also, right? faith, love, some pain also, right? faith, love, some pain also, right? There's pain on the journey, but way There's pain on the journey, but way There's pain on the journey, but way less suffering, right? And so that was less suffering, right? And so that was less suffering, right? And so that was it. That was the turning point. And I it. That was the turning point. And I it. That was the turning point. And I have not looked back. It's been I think have not looked back. It's been I think have not looked back. It's been I think three plus years since that moment and I three plus years since that moment and I three plus years since that moment and I cured my own depression. cured my own depression. cured my own depression. >> Wow. I want to ask you that. That was >> Wow. I want to ask you that. That was >> Wow. I want to ask you that. That was >> Whoa. Here we go. So, I want to ask you >> Whoa. Here we go. So, I want to ask you >> Whoa. Here we go. So, I want to ask you about that. Um, first off, this story about that. Um, first off, this story about that. Um, first off, this story thing everybody is real. This story you thing everybody is real. This story you thing everybody is real. This story you tell yourself about yourself and your tell yourself about yourself and your tell yourself about yourself and your life, you're doing everything in your life, you're doing everything in your life, you're doing everything in your personal power you possibly can to quote personal power you possibly can to quote personal power you possibly can to quote Tony personal power um to confirm the Tony personal power um to confirm the Tony personal power um to confirm the story and make it true. story and make it true. story and make it true. >> Amen. happens is you validate it over >> Amen. happens is you validate it over >> Amen. happens is you validate it over and over and over again to find more and over and over again to find more and over and over again to find more proof. That's your reticular activating proof. That's your reticular activating proof. That's your reticular activating system in your brain. It's scanning your system in your brain. It's scanning your system in your brain. It's scanning your environment to find more and more proof environment to find more and more proof environment to find more and more proof that what you're saying about you is that what you're saying about you is that what you're saying about you is true. That's why that old adage of if true. That's why that old adage of if true. That's why that old adage of if you believe it, it's true actually comes you believe it, it's true actually comes you believe it, it's true actually comes to fruition. But I want to go back a to fruition. But I want to go back a to fruition. But I want to go back a second. We'll talk about what you did to second. We'll talk about what you did to second. We'll talk about what you did to shift. But before we do it, I want to shift. But before we do it, I want to shift. But before we do it, I want to ask you something and maybe you haven't ask you something and maybe you haven't ask you something and maybe you haven't considered this, maybe you have, but considered this, maybe you have, but considered this, maybe you have, but I too relate to that. I had a story one I too relate to that. I had a story one I too relate to that. I had a story one time. I was building my first like big time. I was building my first like big time. I was building my first like big home. Just great blessing. I'd had home. Just great blessing. I'd had home. Just great blessing. I'd had financial resources for the first time financial resources for the first time financial resources for the first time building this mansion. It's just a building this mansion. It's just a building this mansion. It's just a stressful day. I was mad at the stressful day. I was mad at the stressful day. I was mad at the contractor. We had just lost a business contractor. We had just lost a business contractor. We had just lost a business deal. And I'll never forget it. I walk deal. And I'll never forget it. I walk deal. And I'll never forget it. I walk in the living room of this house that's in the living room of this house that's in the living room of this house that's being built and I'm just furious, right? being built and I'm just furious, right? being built and I'm just furious, right? And if the quality of your life is the And if the quality of your life is the And if the quality of your life is the quality of your emotions, I was losing quality of your emotions, I was losing quality of your emotions, I was losing big time. And in the kitchen, building big time. And in the kitchen, building big time. And in the kitchen, building my kitchen were these about six men. my kitchen were these about six men. my kitchen were these about six men. They had mariachi music playing. They They had mariachi music playing. They They had mariachi music playing. They were dancing. They were working. They were dancing. They were working. They were dancing. They were working. They were doing work they were great at, that were doing work they were great at, that were doing work they were great at, that they were proud of. they were proud of. they were proud of. And they were joyous and blissful and And they were joyous and blissful and And they were joyous and blissful and passionate. And I remember standing passionate. And I remember standing passionate. And I remember standing there like an idiot in the middle of there like an idiot in the middle of there like an idiot in the middle of this house under construction going, this house under construction going, this house under construction going, "They're winning in life and I'm "They're winning in life and I'm "They're winning in life and I'm losing." But on Instagram, I'm the dude losing." But on Instagram, I'm the dude losing." But on Instagram, I'm the dude with the mansion, but I'm the dude with the mansion, but I'm the dude with the mansion, but I'm the dude living in these emotions of stress, living in these emotions of stress, living in these emotions of stress, fear, anxiety, worry. These men live in fear, anxiety, worry. These men live in fear, anxiety, worry. These men live in bliss. And I remember going, you better bliss. And I remember going, you better bliss. And I remember going, you better change something right here. And in my change something right here. And in my change something right here. And in my case, this is what I want to ask you case, this is what I want to ask you case, this is what I want to ask you about. I want to meet you in the middle about. I want to meet you in the middle about. I want to meet you in the middle here. I had to try to figure out why I here. I had to try to figure out why I here. I had to try to figure out why I was this way first. And maybe that's not was this way first. And maybe that's not was this way first. And maybe that's not relevant. Maybe you just decide to relevant. Maybe you just decide to relevant. Maybe you just decide to change. But in my case, I realized change. But in my case, I realized change. But in my case, I realized something about me since I was a little something about me since I was a little something about me since I was a little boy. And I think a lot of people do boy. And I think a lot of people do boy. And I think a lot of people do this. I confused significance or this. I confused significance or this. I confused significance or recognition with love. recognition with love. recognition with love. Meaning when I when I was a little boy, Meaning when I when I was a little boy, Meaning when I when I was a little boy, if I brought home an A or I hit a home if I brought home an A or I hit a home if I brought home an A or I hit a home run or I had big muscles when I got run or I had big muscles when I got run or I had big muscles when I got older, I got what felt like love. It's older, I got what felt like love. It's older, I got what felt like love. It's like superficial love, acknowledgement. like superficial love, acknowledgement. like superficial love, acknowledgement. And so in my little brain, significance And so in my little brain, significance And so in my little brain, significance and recognition was love, except it's and recognition was love, except it's and recognition was love, except it's not. They're two totally different not. They're two totally different not. They're two totally different things. So I was great at significance, things. 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So go to rorownutrition.com rorownutrition.com rorownutrition.com and use code mylet for 20% off sitewide. and use code mylet for 20% off sitewide. and use code mylet for 20% off sitewide. Yeah, of course. I organized, you know, Yeah, of course. I organized, you know, Yeah, of course. I organized, you know, first two and a half, maybe three first two and a half, maybe three first two and a half, maybe three decades of my life around it. You know, decades of my life around it. You know, decades of my life around it. You know, why do you think us uh you know, artists why do you think us uh you know, artists why do you think us uh you know, artists become artists? You know, it's like we become artists? You know, it's like we become artists? You know, it's like we want that hit of significance from the want that hit of significance from the want that hit of significance from the audience. We we we have often some audience. We we we have often some audience. We we we have often some psychological psychological psychological flaw that we haven't cleaned up yet. And flaw that we haven't cleaned up yet. And flaw that we haven't cleaned up yet. And we want to manipulate the audience to we want to manipulate the audience to we want to manipulate the audience to giving that fake love or the attention, giving that fake love or the attention, giving that fake love or the attention, that significance, so we don't have to that significance, so we don't have to that significance, so we don't have to look at that thing. look at that thing. look at that thing. >> And so that's unfortunately >> And so that's unfortunately >> And so that's unfortunately a large percentage of the artists we a large percentage of the artists we a large percentage of the artists we have. have. have. >> They they don't feel the love, the real >> They they don't feel the love, the real >> They they don't feel the love, the real love, and so they're trying to outsource love, and so they're trying to outsource love, and so they're trying to outsource it, crowdsource it, right? And I I'm not it, crowdsource it, right? And I I'm not it, crowdsource it, right? And I I'm not saying that with judgment because I did saying that with judgment because I did saying that with judgment because I did it for years and sometimes to be honest it for years and sometimes to be honest it for years and sometimes to be honest it'll try to rear its head to this day it'll try to rear its head to this day it'll try to rear its head to this day and I say hey you know I love you but and I say hey you know I love you but and I say hey you know I love you but you're not you don't get to drive the you're not you don't get to drive the you're not you don't get to drive the car anymore you know and so I talk about car anymore you know and so I talk about car anymore you know and so I talk about the three stages of artistry and their the three stages of artistry and their the three stages of artistry and their relationship with their fans and it relationship with their fans and it relationship with their fans and it probably applies to influencers probably applies to influencers probably applies to influencers podcasters things too but you know I podcasters things too but you know I podcasters things too but you know I come from the the music world so I say come from the the music world so I say come from the the music world so I say the first stage is puppy love. You start the first stage is puppy love. You start the first stage is puppy love. You start to get some recognition and you go, to get some recognition and you go, to get some recognition and you go, "Wow, like this is incredible." And what "Wow, like this is incredible." And what "Wow, like this is incredible." And what could ever go wrong with this? Like I could ever go wrong with this? Like I could ever go wrong with this? Like I actually maybe I don't even need to have actually maybe I don't even need to have actually maybe I don't even need to have a wife or a girlfriend cuz I get all a wife or a girlfriend cuz I get all a wife or a girlfriend cuz I get all this love. Like I feel so filled up from this love. Like I feel so filled up from this love. Like I feel so filled up from these strangers who all see the essence these strangers who all see the essence these strangers who all see the essence of how great I am. And if you've done of how great I am. And if you've done of how great I am. And if you've done great work, that's true. they're only great work, that's true. they're only great work, that's true. they're only seeing your essence and not all your, seeing your essence and not all your, seeing your essence and not all your, you know, your your flaws. And so you know, your your flaws. And so you know, your your flaws. And so there's some there's something to that there's some there's something to that there's some there's something to that because you're presenting the the the because you're presenting the the the because you're presenting the the the jewel inside yourself in your art and a jewel inside yourself in your art and a jewel inside yourself in your art and a bunch of people are relating to that and bunch of people are relating to that and bunch of people are relating to that and you're getting this attention back and you're getting this attention back and you're getting this attention back and acknowledgement. So that's stage one, acknowledgement. So that's stage one, acknowledgement. So that's stage one, puppy love. Stage two I call puppy love. Stage two I call puppy love. Stage two I call disillusionment because something disillusionment because something disillusionment because something happens where you go happens where you go happens where you go dude dude dude some of those people some of those people some of those people they don't like me they're not paying they don't like me they're not paying they don't like me they're not paying attention anymore there there could be a attention anymore there there could be a attention anymore there there could be a dip in popularity and just go wow this dip in popularity and just go wow this dip in popularity and just go wow this changes changes changes >> or some people >> or some people >> or some people flip and they they go from liking you to flip and they they go from liking you to flip and they they go from liking you to hating you or some people just come out hating you or some people just come out hating you or some people just come out of nowhere and they they're hating you. of nowhere and they they're hating you. of nowhere and they they're hating you. So this is man I thought I had this So this is man I thought I had this So this is man I thought I had this security from this this significance but security from this this significance but security from this this significance but now it's gone and that's painful that's now it's gone and that's painful that's now it's gone and that's painful that's why I call it disillusionment why I call it disillusionment why I call it disillusionment now a lot of people get stuck there and now a lot of people get stuck there and now a lot of people get stuck there and they get in this lovehate relationship they get in this lovehate relationship they get in this lovehate relationship with their audience but there's a third with their audience but there's a third with their audience but there's a third level a third stage in that service it's level a third stage in that service it's level a third stage in that service it's going okay once I actually address the going okay once I actually address the going okay once I actually address the thing that you just got clear on you thing that you just got clear on you thing that you just got clear on you addressed it. Hey, this came from when I addressed it. Hey, this came from when I addressed it. Hey, this came from when I was a child. And you know, I'm going to was a child. And you know, I'm going to was a child. And you know, I'm going to stop I'm gonna stop living under that stop I'm gonna stop living under that stop I'm gonna stop living under that programming because it's just programming because it's just programming because it's just programming that I've that I've operated programming that I've that I've operated programming that I've that I've operated under for years. And we can change any under for years. And we can change any under for years. And we can change any habit. We can change any It's one of the habit. We can change any It's one of the habit. We can change any It's one of the things I love about Tony. You know, I things I love about Tony. You know, I things I love about Tony. You know, I don't have a disease. Depression was a don't have a disease. Depression was a don't have a disease. Depression was a disease I had. It's not something I had. disease I had. It's not something I had. disease I had. It's not something I had. It's something I did. It's something I did. It's something I did. >> Yeah. And so you get clear on in stage >> Yeah. And so you get clear on in stage >> Yeah. And so you get clear on in stage three, you get clear on, okay, what what three, you get clear on, okay, what what three, you get clear on, okay, what what are these flaws or these pain points are these flaws or these pain points are these flaws or these pain points that maybe come from childhood and that maybe come from childhood and that maybe come from childhood and sometimes and they even come from before sometimes and they even come from before sometimes and they even come from before childhood. Sometimes they come from your childhood. Sometimes they come from your childhood. Sometimes they come from your mom's childhood. I mean, I know for sure mom's childhood. I mean, I know for sure mom's childhood. I mean, I know for sure there's some some stuff that I picked up there's some some stuff that I picked up there's some some stuff that I picked up from my mom and when I was in my early from my mom and when I was in my early from my mom and when I was in my early 20s, I was kind of like upset with her 20s, I was kind of like upset with her 20s, I was kind of like upset with her about it. But then when I learned more about it. But then when I learned more about it. But then when I learned more about her, I say, "You got it from your about her, I say, "You got it from your about her, I say, "You got it from your mama." And then I and then it probably, mama." And then I and then it probably, mama." And then I and then it probably, you know, went on from there. So you know, went on from there. So you know, went on from there. So sometimes it's not even us, but it's up sometimes it's not even us, but it's up sometimes it's not even us, but it's up to us to to to end the cycle. So you get to us to to to end the cycle. So you get to us to to to end the cycle. So you get clear on, okay, what are my pain points? clear on, okay, what are my pain points? clear on, okay, what are my pain points? What are these old stories? What is the What are these old stories? What is the What are these old stories? What is the new ones I'm going to tell? And and new ones I'm going to tell? And and new ones I'm going to tell? And and where am I going to start real where am I going to start real where am I going to start real relationships with real love? And then relationships with real love? And then relationships with real love? And then I'm going to go back to my audience and I'm going to go back to my audience and I'm going to go back to my audience and I'm actually going to serve them. It's I'm actually going to serve them. It's I'm actually going to serve them. It's not about manipulating them anymore to not about manipulating them anymore to not about manipulating them anymore to get this hit of significance. It becomes get this hit of significance. It becomes get this hit of significance. It becomes about what can I give and it's it be can about what can I give and it's it be can about what can I give and it's it be can become one of the great joys of your become one of the great joys of your become one of the great joys of your life. And it doesn't replace a primary life. And it doesn't replace a primary life. And it doesn't replace a primary relationship or your family, but it's a relationship or your family, but it's a relationship or your family, but it's a place for you to pour love out and place for you to pour love out and place for you to pour love out and contribute. contribute. contribute. >> So true, brother. By the way, I don't >> So true, brother. By the way, I don't >> So true, brother. By the way, I don't think I think you could replace artist think I think you could replace artist think I think you could replace artist with human. I think most humans are with human. I think most humans are with human. I think most humans are figure well if I get enough money or I figure well if I get enough money or I figure well if I get enough money or I get a bigger house or I got the right get a bigger house or I got the right get a bigger house or I got the right shoes or you know people look up to me shoes or you know people look up to me shoes or you know people look up to me I'm going to feel different about me. I'm going to feel different about me. I'm going to feel different about me. This thing you just said on significance This thing you just said on significance This thing you just said on significance I can tell you an inside thing it's I can tell you an inside thing it's I can tell you an inside thing it's interesting. Rob Deerick is a good interesting. Rob Deerick is a good interesting. Rob Deerick is a good friend. He's been on the show a couple friend. He's been on the show a couple friend. He's been on the show a couple times and we had this running thing times and we had this running thing times and we had this running thing because this is a topic once you have a because this is a topic once you have a because this is a topic once you have a breakthrough in your life that you breakthrough in your life that you breakthrough in your life that you really discuss with one another. And so really discuss with one another. And so really discuss with one another. And so I remember telling him I go man I'm not I remember telling him I go man I'm not I remember telling him I go man I'm not into significance anymore recognition. into significance anymore recognition. into significance anymore recognition. He's like, "Me either." Like almost like He's like, "Me either." Like almost like He's like, "Me either." Like almost like we were above it, right? And uh so we we were above it, right? And uh so we we were above it, right? And uh so we went like 6 months bantering back and went like 6 months bantering back and went like 6 months bantering back and forth about how evolved we had both forth about how evolved we had both forth about how evolved we had both become, you know, and we're at a Rams become, you know, and we're at a Rams become, you know, and we're at a Rams game together and our wives were sitting game together and our wives were sitting game together and our wives were sitting in between us and I can't hear him. And in between us and I can't hear him. And in between us and I can't hear him. And he's like, "Hey, hey." And I'm, you he's like, "Hey, hey." And I'm, you he's like, "Hey, hey." And I'm, you know, I go, "What?" He goes, and finally know, I go, "What?" He goes, and finally know, I go, "What?" He goes, and finally I can't hear him. I go, "What do you I can't hear him. I go, "What do you I can't hear him. I go, "What do you say?" He goes, "I'm a liar." And I go, say?" He goes, "I'm a liar." And I go, say?" He goes, "I'm a liar." And I go, "What are you talking about?" He goes, "What are you talking about?" He goes, "What are you talking about?" He goes, "Let's go get a hot dog and I'll tell "Let's go get a hot dog and I'll tell "Let's go get a hot dog and I'll tell you." And we walk up. He goes, "Bro, I you." And we walk up. He goes, "Bro, I you." And we walk up. He goes, "Bro, I still love significance and still love significance and still love significance and recognition." I go, "Good, dude. I'm so recognition." I go, "Good, dude. I'm so recognition." I go, "Good, dude. I'm so sick of lying about this. So do I. sick of lying about this. So do I. sick of lying about this. So do I. Right? But he said something what you Right? But he said something what you Right? But he said something what you just said. He said, "But I get it now by just said. He said, "But I get it now by just said. He said, "But I get it now by contributing." So I feel significant contributing." So I feel significant contributing." So I feel significant when I'm giving. when I'm giving. when I'm giving. >> That's the difference, bro. And so I >> That's the difference, bro. And so I >> That's the difference, bro. And so I think I get it in a healthy way now. think I get it in a healthy way now. think I get it in a healthy way now. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> And he goes, "And that contribution is >> And he goes, "And that contribution is >> And he goes, "And that contribution is because I love people." And so it's just because I love people." And so it's just because I love people." And so it's just a subtle loop that changes. But this is a subtle loop that changes. But this is a subtle loop that changes. But this is like one of the more profound like one of the more profound like one of the more profound conversations we've had on the show conversations we've had on the show conversations we've had on the show because I think this is just humans. I because I think this is just humans. I because I think this is just humans. I don't think it's just singing. or just don't think it's just singing. or just don't think it's just singing. or just speaking on stage like I do. I think speaking on stage like I do. I think speaking on stage like I do. I think it's human nature to be this way. So, it's human nature to be this way. So, it's human nature to be this way. So, let me ask you, I mean, this is a broad let me ask you, I mean, this is a broad let me ask you, I mean, this is a broad question, but if someone was listening question, but if someone was listening question, but if someone was listening this going, "Bro, I'm with you." And I this going, "Bro, I'm with you." And I this going, "Bro, I'm with you." And I live kind of in a lower state of being a live kind of in a lower state of being a live kind of in a lower state of being a lot where I'm down or melancholy or lot where I'm down or melancholy or lot where I'm down or melancholy or worried or anxiety or all the way to worried or anxiety or all the way to worried or anxiety or all the way to depression like you've described. And depression like you've described. And depression like you've described. And they said to me, "Hey, brother, like they said to me, "Hey, brother, like they said to me, "Hey, brother, like what what what what do I do? What do I what what what what do I do? What do I what what what what do I do? What do I do?" What would you say to that person? do?" What would you say to that person? do?" What would you say to that person? I would ask them four questions but they I would ask them four questions but they I would ask them four questions but they can answer the questions themselves you can answer the questions themselves you can answer the questions themselves you know so they I would know so they I would know so they I would ch challenge or invite that person to ch challenge or invite that person to ch challenge or invite that person to ask themselves these four questions ask themselves these four questions ask themselves these four questions the first comes from my buddy Chris War the first comes from my buddy Chris War the first comes from my buddy Chris War wrote the book Chris beat cancer it's an wrote the book Chris beat cancer it's an wrote the book Chris beat cancer it's an incredible book he cured himself of incredible book he cured himself of incredible book he cured himself of cancer without western medicine and he's cancer without western medicine and he's cancer without western medicine and he's helped thousands of others to to repeat helped thousands of others to to repeat helped thousands of others to to repeat this miracle this miracle this miracle And he credits his entire journey of And he credits his entire journey of And he credits his entire journey of healing healing healing back to I think he was getting a a back to I think he was getting a a back to I think he was getting a a massage or a Reiki or someone. He went massage or a Reiki or someone. He went massage or a Reiki or someone. He went to get some body work done and the to get some body work done and the to get some body work done and the healer asked him this question. They go healer asked him this question. They go healer asked him this question. They go before we start this journey. before we start this journey. before we start this journey. I got to know do you want to live? >> Yes or no? >> Yes or no? And most of us have never really asked And most of us have never really asked And most of us have never really asked that question seriously to each to that question seriously to each to that question seriously to each to ourselves because you know these things ourselves because you know these things ourselves because you know these things build up. You talked about them earlier. build up. You talked about them earlier. build up. You talked about them earlier. These micro resentments. There's a These micro resentments. There's a These micro resentments. There's a little bit of feeling a lot of us have little bit of feeling a lot of us have little bit of feeling a lot of us have of hey you know I'll do this but I don't of hey you know I'll do this but I don't of hey you know I'll do this but I don't really want to. I'm here but I I should really want to. I'm here but I I should really want to. I'm here but I I should be doing something else. And it's so be doing something else. And it's so be doing something else. And it's so it's so ubiquitous in a lot of our it's so ubiquitous in a lot of our it's so ubiquitous in a lot of our experience of life that it's just kind experience of life that it's just kind experience of life that it's just kind of running in the background. And a lot of running in the background. And a lot of running in the background. And a lot of us think that it's it's actually part of us think that it's it's actually part of us think that it's it's actually part of life. It's not part of life. It's an of life. It's not part of life. It's an of life. It's not part of life. It's an impediment of life. And so impediment of life. And so impediment of life. And so most people answer that question yes, most people answer that question yes, most people answer that question yes, but they realize like there's something but they realize like there's something but they realize like there's something sort of not as good as they they think sort of not as good as they they think sort of not as good as they they think it should be. And that it should be. And that it should be. And that >> that part I'll go on a small side >> that part I'll go on a small side >> that part I'll go on a small side tangent and I get back to question two. tangent and I get back to question two. tangent and I get back to question two. that part of oneself that part of oneself that part of oneself that goes, that goes, that goes, "Hey, I I think I think my life is "Hey, I I think I think my life is "Hey, I I think I think my life is supposed to feel better than it does." supposed to feel better than it does." supposed to feel better than it does." Where does that come from? Because Where does that come from? Because Where does that come from? Because that's really interesting. A lot of us that's really interesting. A lot of us that's really interesting. A lot of us have this idea that life should feel have this idea that life should feel have this idea that life should feel better than it does. And and but better better than it does. And and but better better than it does. And and but better in a way that maybe we've never even in a way that maybe we've never even in a way that maybe we've never even experienced. So, how is the mind telling experienced. So, how is the mind telling experienced. So, how is the mind telling us about some experience that we don't us about some experience that we don't us about some experience that we don't know anything about? Right? Like, so I know anything about? Right? Like, so I know anything about? Right? Like, so I have a theory. I don't know if it's have a theory. I don't know if it's have a theory. I don't know if it's right, but I think it's right. And I right, but I think it's right. And I right, but I think it's right. And I think it comes from beyond the mind. I think it comes from beyond the mind. I think it comes from beyond the mind. I think that feeling is is true. I think think that feeling is is true. I think think that feeling is is true. I think that's our soul. Or if you don't like that's our soul. Or if you don't like that's our soul. Or if you don't like that word, your higher self or like your that word, your higher self or like your that word, your higher self or like your deeper self going, "Hey, there's more deeper self going, "Hey, there's more deeper self going, "Hey, there's more for you here." And the pain you feel is for you here." And the pain you feel is for you here." And the pain you feel is actually the chasm actually the chasm actually the chasm between where you are and where on some between where you are and where on some between where you are and where on some level you know life should be not level you know life should be not level you know life should be not externally but the feeling the externally but the feeling the externally but the feeling the experience of life right it's like when experience of life right it's like when experience of life right it's like when you see those guys working on the house you see those guys working on the house you see those guys working on the house the pain isn't just that you felt anger the pain isn't just that you felt anger the pain isn't just that you felt anger that day because we all feel anger that day because we all feel anger that day because we all feel anger sometime the pain is something's sometime the pain is something's sometime the pain is something's recognizing recognizing recognizing there's a chasm here and and the amount there's a chasm here and and the amount there's a chasm here and and the amount the the further the wider the chasm, the the the further the wider the chasm, the the the further the wider the chasm, the more the pain. more the pain. more the pain. So So So I think that part of ourselves is I think that part of ourselves is I think that part of ourselves is correct and it's a larger part of correct and it's a larger part of correct and it's a larger part of ourselves calling us to grow, calling us ourselves calling us to grow, calling us ourselves calling us to grow, calling us to become more. So that's that's the end to become more. So that's that's the end to become more. So that's that's the end of the tangent. Now what's the second of the tangent. Now what's the second of the tangent. Now what's the second question? question? question? >> The first question was, do you want to >> The first question was, do you want to >> The first question was, do you want to live? Yes or no? The second question is live? Yes or no? The second question is live? Yes or no? The second question is if yes, and most people say yes, if yes, and most people say yes, if yes, and most people say yes, >> why? Why? Why? And this question And this question And this question it comes from it comes from it comes from Victor Frankle and Chris asked it also Victor Frankle and Chris asked it also Victor Frankle and Chris asked it also but it's man's search for meaning you but it's man's search for meaning you but it's man's search for meaning you know and would n say he who has a why know and would n say he who has a why know and would n say he who has a why can endure almost any circumstance any can endure almost any circumstance any can endure almost any circumstance any how any condition can overcome anything how any condition can overcome anything how any condition can overcome anything and and and all of us have a purpose of being here all of us have a purpose of being here all of us have a purpose of being here but not all of us have uncovered it yet but not all of us have uncovered it yet but not all of us have uncovered it yet and by the way it changes your purpose and by the way it changes your purpose and by the way it changes your purpose when you're 15 is not the same as your when you're 15 is not the same as your when you're 15 is not the same as your purpose when you're 30 and it might purpose when you're 30 and it might purpose when you're 30 and it might change week to week and Victor Frankle change week to week and Victor Frankle change week to week and Victor Frankle talks about that in the book. He goes talks about that in the book. He goes talks about that in the book. He goes stop measuring life and saying life stop measuring life and saying life stop measuring life and saying life isn't meeting my expectations and start isn't meeting my expectations and start isn't meeting my expectations and start asking what does life expect of me? asking what does life expect of me? asking what does life expect of me? >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> What does life expect of me in this >> What does life expect of me in this >> What does life expect of me in this moment? And the purpose your purpose of moment? And the purpose your purpose of moment? And the purpose your purpose of life might not be some overarching thing life might not be some overarching thing life might not be some overarching thing some crazy. It might just be to hold some crazy. It might just be to hold some crazy. It might just be to hold that old lady's hand to to look at that that old lady's hand to to look at that that old lady's hand to to look at that child and it might be something very child and it might be something very child and it might be something very immediate. immediate. immediate. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, so that's the second question. >> So, so that's the second question. >> So, so that's the second question. And the third question come my buddy uh And the third question come my buddy uh And the third question come my buddy uh my buddy Elliot Bis now. So it comes my buddy Elliot Bis now. So it comes my buddy Elliot Bis now. So it comes with a story. Am I rambling too long? with a story. Am I rambling too long? with a story. Am I rambling too long? >> Not in the least. >> Not in the least. >> Not in the least. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So the third question is came from >> So the third question is came from >> So the third question is came from Elliott. I was at a point another low Elliott. I was at a point another low Elliott. I was at a point another low point in my life. This low point came point in my life. This low point came point in my life. This low point came before the one before. There was a bunch before the one before. There was a bunch before the one before. There was a bunch of low points, right? of low points, right? of low points, right? So, and so um I had reached this point So, and so um I had reached this point So, and so um I had reached this point in my life where in my life where in my life where my father had just passed away. A couple my father had just passed away. A couple my father had just passed away. A couple of my my peers that I worked with in the of my my peers that I worked with in the of my my peers that I worked with in the music industry, Avichi and Mac Miller, music industry, Avichi and Mac Miller, music industry, Avichi and Mac Miller, they had just died. they had just died. they had just died. And there was this feeling like And there was this feeling like And there was this feeling like exactly what I just referred to, like exactly what I just referred to, like exactly what I just referred to, like there there's something inside me that there there's something inside me that there there's something inside me that I'm not expressing. Like there's some I'm not expressing. Like there's some I'm not expressing. Like there's some difference between what I have to give difference between what I have to give difference between what I have to give and what I'm actually giving. and what I'm actually giving. and what I'm actually giving. >> And and it it doesn't feel good. >> And and it it doesn't feel good. >> And and it it doesn't feel good. >> It feels like I'm wasting life. And I >> It feels like I'm wasting life. And I >> It feels like I'm wasting life. And I got got got um just reel down, reel down. And I I I um just reel down, reel down. And I I I um just reel down, reel down. And I I I grew a big beard at the time. I just grew a big beard at the time. I just grew a big beard at the time. I just turned 30. And I remember I had a new turned 30. And I remember I had a new turned 30. And I remember I had a new album coming out and you know at at that album coming out and you know at at that album coming out and you know at at that it was about maybe seven eight years it was about maybe seven eight years it was about maybe seven eight years ago. At that time you would still go to ago. At that time you would still go to ago. At that time you would still go to a lot of radio stations and you a lot of radio stations and you a lot of radio stations and you basically smoo you know shake these guys basically smoo you know shake these guys basically smoo you know shake these guys hand makes make you know pretend like hand makes make you know pretend like hand makes make you know pretend like you're their best friend. And so then you're their best friend. And so then you're their best friend. And so then they put your song on the radio and they they put your song on the radio and they they put your song on the radio and they can get like these 12year-olds addicted can get like these 12year-olds addicted can get like these 12year-olds addicted to your song and that's supposed to be to your song and that's supposed to be to your song and that's supposed to be success. And I'm just like telling success. And I'm just like telling success. And I'm just like telling Elliot, we were we were in Alaska on a Elliot, we were we were in Alaska on a Elliot, we were we were in Alaska on a camping trip and I'm like, "Dude, I'm camping trip and I'm like, "Dude, I'm camping trip and I'm like, "Dude, I'm done. Like, I don't I'm 30. I'm what am done. Like, I don't I'm 30. I'm what am done. Like, I don't I'm 30. I'm what am I doing? I I don't want to play this I doing? I I don't want to play this I doing? I I don't want to play this game anymore. Like, I'm I'm through. I game anymore. Like, I'm I'm through. I game anymore. Like, I'm I'm through. I don't want to do it." don't want to do it." don't want to do it." And And And And when I say I'm done, I'm like, I was And when I say I'm done, I'm like, I was And when I say I'm done, I'm like, I was really there, Ed. Like, I had thoughts really there, Ed. Like, I had thoughts really there, Ed. Like, I had thoughts of like, I should kill myself. of like, I should kill myself. of like, I should kill myself. >> Whoa. Like Like I I There's something about how I'm showing There's something about how I'm showing up in the world that feels like it's up in the world that feels like it's up in the world that feels like it's taking away from the world, not adding taking away from the world, not adding taking away from the world, not adding to it. to it. to it. And so I I said to Elliot, I go, "Dude, And so I I said to Elliot, I go, "Dude, And so I I said to Elliot, I go, "Dude, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm I don't want to do this anymore. I'm I don't want to do this anymore. I'm done." done." done." >> He looks at me, and by the way, I think >> He looks at me, and by the way, I think >> He looks at me, and by the way, I think friendship is seeing another's potential friendship is seeing another's potential friendship is seeing another's potential so clearly that they can see it so clearly that they can see it so clearly that they can see it themselves. themselves. themselves. >> So that's Elliot. He's incredible. and >> So that's Elliot. He's incredible. and >> So that's Elliot. He's incredible. and and my like depressing words just kind and my like depressing words just kind and my like depressing words just kind of like bounce off him as if he's got a of like bounce off him as if he's got a of like bounce off him as if he's got a forest field. And he looks at me and he forest field. And he looks at me and he forest field. And he looks at me and he goes goes goes cuz I just told him, "I don't want to do cuz I just told him, "I don't want to do cuz I just told him, "I don't want to do it. I don't want all this stuff." And he it. I don't want all this stuff." And he it. I don't want all this stuff." And he goes, "What do you want?" >> Yep. >> Yep. >> I never I never asked that question. I'm >> I never I never asked that question. I'm >> I never I never asked that question. I'm sitting here bouncing around my life sitting here bouncing around my life sitting here bouncing around my life making lists and lists of what I don't making lists and lists of what I don't making lists and lists of what I don't want. And if any of your listeners like want. And if any of your listeners like want. And if any of your listeners like if your mind is like mine, by the way, if your mind is like mine, by the way, if your mind is like mine, by the way, you're not your mind, but if your mind you're not your mind, but if your mind you're not your mind, but if your mind is like mine, it creates lists of things is like mine, it creates lists of things is like mine, it creates lists of things that happened in the past you didn't that happened in the past you didn't that happened in the past you didn't want. It's got a list of things right want. It's got a list of things right want. It's got a list of things right now that are happening you don't want. now that are happening you don't want. now that are happening you don't want. And it even has a giant list of things And it even has a giant list of things And it even has a giant list of things that haven't happened yet, but if they that haven't happened yet, but if they that haven't happened yet, but if they did, you sure as heck wouldn't want did, you sure as heck wouldn't want did, you sure as heck wouldn't want those, too. So, no wonder no wonder I those, too. So, no wonder no wonder I those, too. So, no wonder no wonder I was miserable. was miserable. was miserable. I sat there, I thought, I sat there, I thought, I sat there, I thought, what do I want? What a question. And I what do I want? What a question. And I what do I want? What a question. And I couldn't believe the words that came out couldn't believe the words that came out couldn't believe the words that came out of my mouth. They were, "I want to walk of my mouth. They were, "I want to walk of my mouth. They were, "I want to walk across America." >> Well, I almost couldn't believe I said >> Well, I almost couldn't believe I said it. it. it. >> Had you ever thought that before? >> Had you ever thought that before? >> Had you ever thought that before? >> Yeah. I had heard about a guy who had >> Yeah. I had heard about a guy who had >> Yeah. I had heard about a guy who had done it five years ago and I remember I done it five years ago and I remember I done it five years ago and I remember I thought that was that's pretty freaking thought that was that's pretty freaking thought that was that's pretty freaking cool, you know? And then I just threw on cool, you know? And then I just threw on cool, you know? And then I just threw on the back burner like it I thought maybe the back burner like it I thought maybe the back burner like it I thought maybe I'll do it one day. But then I got back I'll do it one day. But then I got back I'll do it one day. But then I got back to business as usual. Make album going to business as usual. Make album going to business as usual. Make album going on tour. Make album going on tour. Make on tour. Make album going on tour. Make on tour. Make album going on tour. Make album going on tour. And then in that album going on tour. And then in that album going on tour. And then in that moment, he asked what I wanted and that moment, he asked what I wanted and that moment, he asked what I wanted and that was the answer. was the answer. was the answer. >> It came from beyond my mind. Like it >> It came from beyond my mind. Like it >> It came from beyond my mind. Like it just I almost heard the words come out just I almost heard the words come out just I almost heard the words come out of my mouth like as if someone else said of my mouth like as if someone else said of my mouth like as if someone else said it. I was surprised. And I and I reeled it. I was surprised. And I and I reeled it. I was surprised. And I and I reeled back cuz when I heard the words come out back cuz when I heard the words come out back cuz when I heard the words come out of my mouth, I went of my mouth, I went of my mouth, I went my mind came back in. I said to Elliot, my mind came back in. I said to Elliot, my mind came back in. I said to Elliot, I said, "But you know, I told my manager I said, "But you know, I told my manager I said, "But you know, I told my manager about this once, and he said it was a about this once, and he said it was a about this once, and he said it was a crazy idea." crazy idea." crazy idea." >> Elliot goes, "That's great news." >> Elliot goes, "That's great news." >> Elliot goes, "That's great news." >> I like Elliot. >> I like Elliot. >> I like Elliot. >> I like him, too. I said, "What do you >> I like him, too. I said, "What do you >> I like him, too. I said, "What do you mean it's great news?" He goes, "That mean it's great news?" He goes, "That mean it's great news?" He goes, "That your manager said it's a crazy idea." I your manager said it's a crazy idea." I your manager said it's a crazy idea." I said, "What do you mean?" He goes, "You said, "What do you mean?" He goes, "You said, "What do you mean?" He goes, "You got to understand, man. Not all crazy got to understand, man. Not all crazy got to understand, man. Not all crazy ideas are great, but all great ideas are ideas are great, but all great ideas are ideas are great, but all great ideas are crazy. crazy. crazy. >> So good. >> So good. >> So good. >> And he goes, "So your manager thing is >> And he goes, "So your manager thing is >> And he goes, "So your manager thing is crazy is a great sign." He goes, "And I crazy is a great sign." He goes, "And I crazy is a great sign." He goes, "And I think you walking across America is a think you walking across America is a think you walking across America is a great idea." great idea." great idea." So I eventually did that walk and it So I eventually did that walk and it So I eventually did that walk and it changed my life. It didn't cure me in my changed my life. It didn't cure me in my changed my life. It didn't cure me in my depression, but it gave me some some depression, but it gave me some some depression, but it gave me some some amazing tools amazing tools amazing tools >> and eventually put me on the path that >> and eventually put me on the path that >> and eventually put me on the path that got me to where I did. M. got me to where I did. M. got me to where I did. M. >> So that's question number three. >> So that's question number three. >> So that's question number three. And um And um And um >> I'm stealing that. >> I'm stealing that. >> I'm stealing that. >> Steal it because I steal from him all >> Steal it because I steal from him all >> Steal it because I steal from him all the time. the time. the time. By the way, I asked him. I go later, you By the way, I asked him. I go later, you By the way, I asked him. I go later, you know, cuz it was such a a deep moment. I know, cuz it was such a a deep moment. I know, cuz it was such a a deep moment. I said cuz he's he's one of my best said cuz he's he's one of my best said cuz he's he's one of my best friends. So I go, "Dude, dude, did you friends. So I go, "Dude, dude, did you friends. So I go, "Dude, dude, did you make that up?" He goes, "What the not make that up?" He goes, "What the not make that up?" He goes, "What the not crazy idea line?" And he goes, "I don't crazy idea line?" And he goes, "I don't crazy idea line?" And he goes, "I don't know. Probably." know. Probably." know. Probably." He didn't even know. So maybe he got it He didn't even know. So maybe he got it He didn't even know. So maybe he got it from someplace else, but I I think he from someplace else, but I I think he from someplace else, but I I think he did. I think did. I think did. I think >> worthy of sharing to the world for sure. >> worthy of sharing to the world for sure. >> worthy of sharing to the world for sure. >> I think he channeled it. But uh >> I think he channeled it. But uh >> I think he channeled it. But uh >> the last question is is sort of just an >> the last question is is sort of just an >> the last question is is sort of just an expansion on that which is you know what expansion on that which is you know what expansion on that which is you know what really would make life worth living. So really would make life worth living. So really would make life worth living. So I would start there you know answer I would start there you know answer I would start there you know answer these four questions and and get a these four questions and and get a these four questions and and get a little momentum focusing on what I do little momentum focusing on what I do little momentum focusing on what I do want. you know what I do want. By the want. you know what I do want. By the want. you know what I do want. By the way, it's best way to give someone way, it's best way to give someone way, it's best way to give someone feedback, right? Don't tell them all the feedback, right? Don't tell them all the feedback, right? Don't tell them all the things that they just did that piss you things that they just did that piss you things that they just did that piss you off. Ask them to do what you want them off. Ask them to do what you want them off. Ask them to do what you want them to do. to do. to do. >> Hey, hey, this this would really make a >> Hey, hey, this this would really make a >> Hey, hey, this this would really make a difference for me. It would light me up difference for me. It would light me up difference for me. It would light me up if you did X, Y, or Z. if you did X, Y, or Z. if you did X, Y, or Z. >> Works. So, life is rigged in a way where >> Works. So, life is rigged in a way where >> Works. So, life is rigged in a way where where we get what we focus on. So, life where we get what we focus on. So, life where we get what we focus on. So, life is rigged in such a way where when you is rigged in such a way where when you is rigged in such a way where when you focus on what's wrong, you notice more focus on what's wrong, you notice more focus on what's wrong, you notice more of what's wrong. You get more of what's of what's wrong. You get more of what's of what's wrong. You get more of what's wrong. when you focus on what you want, wrong. when you focus on what you want, wrong. when you focus on what you want, right? And Jesus said, "Pray as if right? And Jesus said, "Pray as if right? And Jesus said, "Pray as if you've already received it, you've already received it, you've already received it, >> right? >> right? >> right? I think that's true." Right? We got all I think that's true." Right? We got all I think that's true." Right? We got all this new age stuff came out about law of this new age stuff came out about law of this new age stuff came out about law of attraction, right? And it's all true. attraction, right? And it's all true. attraction, right? And it's all true. But Jesus was talking about it 2,000 But Jesus was talking about it 2,000 But Jesus was talking about it 2,000 years ago. Pray as if you've already years ago. Pray as if you've already years ago. Pray as if you've already received it, received it, received it, >> right? Um it didn't come from the >> right? Um it didn't come from the >> right? Um it didn't come from the secret. And I love the secret, right? secret. And I love the secret, right? secret. And I love the secret, right? But this concept has been around for a But this concept has been around for a But this concept has been around for a long time and and it's true. We get what long time and and it's true. We get what long time and and it's true. We get what we focus on. And so you got to get clear we focus on. And so you got to get clear we focus on. And so you got to get clear on what you want. You got to get clear on what you want. You got to get clear on what you want. You got to get clear on do you want to live? You got to get on do you want to live? You got to get on do you want to live? You got to get clear on what's your purpose? What's clear on what's your purpose? What's clear on what's your purpose? What's your why? Because without a why, dude, I your why? Because without a why, dude, I your why? Because without a why, dude, I don't care. You can have the craziest don't care. You can have the craziest don't care. You can have the craziest life. It'll turn to mush. It'll turn to life. It'll turn to mush. It'll turn to life. It'll turn to mush. It'll turn to drudgery if you don't know what that why drudgery if you don't know what that why drudgery if you don't know what that why is. is. is. >> You got to get clear on what you do want >> You got to get clear on what you do want >> You got to get clear on what you do want and what would make life really worth and what would make life really worth and what would make life really worth living. living. living. This is a master class, brother. I This is a master class, brother. I This is a master class, brother. I didn't know we were going to go this didn't know we were going to go this didn't know we were going to go this deep. Come on. deep. Come on. deep. Come on. >> Thing I would add. I just want to keep >> Thing I would add. I just want to keep >> Thing I would add. I just want to keep rifting and I want you to be doing both rifting and I want you to be doing both rifting and I want you to be doing both the teaching here today. But you know, the teaching here today. But you know, the teaching here today. But you know, everybody, this is what we're really everybody, this is what we're really everybody, this is what we're really talking about is beginning to live your talking about is beginning to live your talking about is beginning to live your life with some intention. Auditing where life with some intention. Auditing where life with some intention. Auditing where you're at. Is this still my dream? Is you're at. Is this still my dream? Is you're at. Is this still my dream? Is this still what I want? Is this what I this still what I want? Is this what I this still what I want? Is this what I wanted when I was 15? But now I'm 30. wanted when I was 15? But now I'm 30. wanted when I was 15? But now I'm 30. That's not what I want anymore. Right? That's not what I want anymore. Right? That's not what I want anymore. Right? It's okay to audit your life and audit It's okay to audit your life and audit It's okay to audit your life and audit and ask yourself these questions because and ask yourself these questions because and ask yourself these questions because that's a life that's lived with that's a life that's lived with that's a life that's lived with intention. That's a life when you get to intention. That's a life when you get to intention. That's a life when you get to the end of it, you go, "Okay, I gave it the end of it, you go, "Okay, I gave it the end of it, you go, "Okay, I gave it everything I had and and I maxed out my everything I had and and I maxed out my everything I had and and I maxed out my life." But one where you just live life." But one where you just live life." But one where you just live unconsciously with all of your patterns unconsciously with all of your patterns unconsciously with all of your patterns running all of the time, it's just like running all of the time, it's just like running all of the time, it's just like a book that's the same chapter on every a book that's the same chapter on every a book that's the same chapter on every the same page, same chapter. Every time the same page, same chapter. Every time the same page, same chapter. Every time you turn the page, it's the same you turn the page, it's the same you turn the page, it's the same experience. So, if you want a different experience. So, if you want a different experience. So, if you want a different experience, you got to ask different experience, you got to ask different experience, you got to ask different questions. And one thing Tony does talk questions. And one thing Tony does talk questions. And one thing Tony does talk about that I do as well is the quality about that I do as well is the quality about that I do as well is the quality of your life is often the quality of of your life is often the quality of of your life is often the quality of your emotions, but a lot of times your your emotions, but a lot of times your your emotions, but a lot of times your emotions come from the questions you're emotions come from the questions you're emotions come from the questions you're asking yourself. asking yourself. asking yourself. >> Huge, huge. >> Huge, huge. >> Huge, huge. >> You said something really profound >> You said something really profound >> You said something really profound earlier that was like of a million earlier that was like of a million earlier that was like of a million profound things and I'll mess up how you profound things and I'll mess up how you profound things and I'll mess up how you said it. So explain. You said you're not said it. So explain. You said you're not said it. So explain. You said you're not your thoughts or you you're not always your thoughts or you you're not always your thoughts or you you're not always what's going on in your mind. You said what's going on in your mind. You said what's going on in your mind. You said something like that. What did you mean something like that. What did you mean something like that. What did you mean by that? by that? by that? >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean this this >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean this this >> Yeah, absolutely. I mean this this machine in our brains that's just saying machine in our brains that's just saying machine in our brains that's just saying words, saying thoughts, words, saying thoughts, words, saying thoughts, it's not who you are. It's some very it's not who you are. It's some very it's not who you are. It's some very small part of your being small part of your being small part of your being >> as as as a soul. You know what it >> as as as a soul. You know what it >> as as as a soul. You know what it Shardan said? We're not human beings Shardan said? We're not human beings Shardan said? We're not human beings having a spiritual experience. We're having a spiritual experience. We're having a spiritual experience. We're spiritual beings having a human spiritual beings having a human spiritual beings having a human experience. So the mind, right, was experience. So the mind, right, was experience. So the mind, right, was evolved to keep us safe. evolved to keep us safe. evolved to keep us safe. It's a scanning device often for what's It's a scanning device often for what's It's a scanning device often for what's wrong. wrong. wrong. Because Because Because you know our ancestors, you know our ancestors, you know our ancestors, if you believe in evolution, the ones if you believe in evolution, the ones if you believe in evolution, the ones that scanned for what was wrong, that that scanned for what was wrong, that that scanned for what was wrong, that noticed all this little sound or that noticed all this little sound or that noticed all this little sound or that over, they were paranoid. They survived over, they were paranoid. They survived over, they were paranoid. They survived because they noticed they noticed the because they noticed they noticed the because they noticed they noticed the the potential danger when it occurred. the potential danger when it occurred. the potential danger when it occurred. And so all of us have what's called a And so all of us have what's called a And so all of us have what's called a negativity bias built in. Meaning we negativity bias built in. Meaning we negativity bias built in. Meaning we tend to focus more on what's wrong tend to focus more on what's wrong tend to focus more on what's wrong because this mind thing is here to keep because this mind thing is here to keep because this mind thing is here to keep us alive. us alive. us alive. >> It's not here to make us happy. >> It's not here to make us happy. >> It's not here to make us happy. It's not designed to. It's not designed to. It's not designed to. So if you live your whole life in your So if you live your whole life in your So if you live your whole life in your mind, mind, mind, you're not going to be fulfilled because you're not going to be fulfilled because you're not going to be fulfilled because your soul is way bigger than than the your soul is way bigger than than the your soul is way bigger than than the than the mind. And so I'm a big than the mind. And so I'm a big than the mind. And so I'm a big meditator. Um I also love, you know, as meditator. Um I also love, you know, as meditator. Um I also love, you know, as much as Tony equally in a different way, much as Tony equally in a different way, much as Tony equally in a different way, Echartol who teaches we're not our mind. Echartol who teaches we're not our mind. Echartol who teaches we're not our mind. Um, Um, Um, >> and I don't know about you, but we >> and I don't know about you, but we >> and I don't know about you, but we talked about earlier, you know, this talked about earlier, you know, this talked about earlier, you know, this thing is always saying what you don't thing is always saying what you don't thing is always saying what you don't want, but it's just always saying stuff want, but it's just always saying stuff want, but it's just always saying stuff all day long. all day long. all day long. >> And some of the stuff it says is great. >> And some of the stuff it says is great. >> And some of the stuff it says is great. And some of the stuff it says is really And some of the stuff it says is really And some of the stuff it says is really stupid. And most of what it says is very stupid. And most of what it says is very stupid. And most of what it says is very repetitive. If you ever take a day, you repetitive. If you ever take a day, you repetitive. If you ever take a day, you know, a lot a lot of people I've had know, a lot a lot of people I've had know, a lot a lot of people I've had this blessed life with a lot of freedom. this blessed life with a lot of freedom. this blessed life with a lot of freedom. So, I've been able to do weird So, I've been able to do weird So, I've been able to do weird experiments. So, like I've gone to a a a experiments. So, like I've gone to a a a experiments. So, like I've gone to a a a retreat center for a total of two months retreat center for a total of two months retreat center for a total of two months of my life where they put you put you in of my life where they put you put you in of my life where they put you put you in a little cabin and they just leave you a little cabin and they just leave you a little cabin and they just leave you there and once a week they drop food off there and once a week they drop food off there and once a week they drop food off in the bear box. So, you're take you're in the bear box. So, you're take you're in the bear box. So, you're take you're taken care of the woods already chopped. taken care of the woods already chopped. taken care of the woods already chopped. So you just sit there and you meditate So you just sit there and you meditate So you just sit there and you meditate and and when I watched my mind just and and when I watched my mind just and and when I watched my mind just sitting there for hours a day, seven sitting there for hours a day, seven sitting there for hours a day, seven hours, it's like, hey, this thing, it's hours, it's like, hey, this thing, it's hours, it's like, hey, this thing, it's often pretty negative. Not always, and often pretty negative. Not always, and often pretty negative. Not always, and it's super repetitive. it's super repetitive. it's super repetitive. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You ever take a day, if you ever take a >> You ever take a day, if you ever take a >> You ever take a day, if you ever take a day, and I know not everyone has this day, and I know not everyone has this day, and I know not everyone has this luxury, but even if you take two hours luxury, but even if you take two hours luxury, but even if you take two hours and you just sit and you just sit and you just sit down down down with without your phone and you just with without your phone and you just with without your phone and you just observe the thoughts in your head. observe the thoughts in your head. observe the thoughts in your head. >> Uh I forget who had the quote. All of >> Uh I forget who had the quote. All of >> Uh I forget who had the quote. All of humanity's problems stem from the fact humanity's problems stem from the fact humanity's problems stem from the fact that a man and a woman too is the olden that a man and a woman too is the olden that a man and a woman too is the olden days, right? Is that we cannot sit days, right? Is that we cannot sit days, right? Is that we cannot sit quietly alone in a room. quietly alone in a room. quietly alone in a room. >> So if you ever take just two hours and >> So if you ever take just two hours and >> So if you ever take just two hours and just watch the thoughts you have, you'll just watch the thoughts you have, you'll just watch the thoughts you have, you'll be amazed. First of all, you'll forget be amazed. First of all, you'll forget be amazed. First of all, you'll forget you're doing it almost immediately and you're doing it almost immediately and you're doing it almost immediately and you'll get carried away with your you'll get carried away with your you'll get carried away with your thoughts. But then after a while you thoughts. But then after a while you thoughts. But then after a while you notice it keeps thinking the same thing notice it keeps thinking the same thing notice it keeps thinking the same thing and it's like so our culture and it's like so our culture and it's like so our culture is almost is almost is almost a monument a monument a monument to rationality to the thinking mind. to rationality to the thinking mind. to rationality to the thinking mind. Right? We we have Right? We we have Right? We we have for better or worse for better or worse for better or worse gotten away from the churches, the gotten away from the churches, the gotten away from the churches, the synagogues, the mosqu and we worship synagogues, the mosqu and we worship synagogues, the mosqu and we worship more the university, the scientist, more the university, the scientist, more the university, the scientist, right? And science is amazing, right? It right? And science is amazing, right? It right? And science is amazing, right? It makes all of our lives great and makes all of our lives great and makes all of our lives great and comfortable, but it's not going to make comfortable, but it's not going to make comfortable, but it's not going to make you fulfilled. So, you are not your mind. I'm not my So, you are not your mind. I'm not my mind. Ed is not his mind. We are the mind. Ed is not his mind. We are the mind. Ed is not his mind. We are the consciousness. I'm the consciousness consciousness. I'm the consciousness consciousness. I'm the consciousness that gets to move Mike Pner around. I'm that gets to move Mike Pner around. I'm that gets to move Mike Pner around. I'm not even Mike Pner, right? That's like I not even Mike Pner, right? That's like I not even Mike Pner, right? That's like I believe a costume that I'm wearing this believe a costume that I'm wearing this believe a costume that I'm wearing this go around. go around. go around. >> And >> And >> And >> the more we can identify with the part >> the more we can identify with the part >> the more we can identify with the part of ourselves is actually beyond of ourselves is actually beyond of ourselves is actually beyond language, beyond words. You can just language, beyond words. You can just language, beyond words. You can just feel it and in moments of quiet and feel it and in moments of quiet and feel it and in moments of quiet and everyone's had these moments, Virginia everyone's had these moments, Virginia everyone's had these moments, Virginia Wolf called these moments of being, Wolf called these moments of being, Wolf called these moments of being, right? Everyone's had a moment where it right? Everyone's had a moment where it right? Everyone's had a moment where it just made sense. just made sense. just made sense. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The the mind actually stopped. It was it >> The the mind actually stopped. It was it >> The the mind actually stopped. It was it was pure. That's you. That's the real was pure. That's you. That's the real was pure. That's you. That's the real you, right? you, right? you, right? >> Tell you, can I just tell you this idea? >> Tell you, can I just tell you this idea? >> Tell you, can I just tell you this idea? I just want to say this to you. I just I just want to say this to you. I just I just want to say this to you. I just want to acknowledge you just for a want to acknowledge you just for a want to acknowledge you just for a second. You you are making a difference. second. You you are making a difference. second. You you are making a difference. This is a real contribution. I just want This is a real contribution. I just want This is a real contribution. I just want you to know like legitimately like um you to know like legitimately like um you to know like legitimately like um this is extraordinary what you're this is extraordinary what you're this is extraordinary what you're sharing and um that's worth sharing and um that's worth sharing and um that's worth acknowledging in you like God's really acknowledging in you like God's really acknowledging in you like God's really using you Mike. I mean truly truly and using you Mike. I mean truly truly and using you Mike. I mean truly truly and um you know everyone what Michael was um you know everyone what Michael was um you know everyone what Michael was saying earlier about your brain and you saying earlier about your brain and you saying earlier about your brain and you know these repetitive thoughts your mind know these repetitive thoughts your mind know these repetitive thoughts your mind is always trying to move towards what is always trying to move towards what is always trying to move towards what it's most familiar with and so if it's it's most familiar with and so if it's it's most familiar with and so if it's familiar with these you know ruminations familiar with these you know ruminations familiar with these you know ruminations of what you're worried about and afraid of what you're worried about and afraid of what you're worried about and afraid of or not liking or not going well of or not liking or not going well of or not liking or not going well you're going to get more of it because you're going to get more of it because you're going to get more of it because your brain's designed to conserve your brain's designed to conserve your brain's designed to conserve energy. It's lazy. And so that's why a energy. It's lazy. And so that's why a energy. It's lazy. And so that's why a life that's not evaluated life that's not evaluated life that's not evaluated is an unlived life. And so what we're is an unlived life. And so what we're is an unlived life. And so what we're really talking about here is just the really talking about here is just the really talking about here is just the gift of today because you are and you gift of today because you are and you gift of today because you are and you and I are both blessed. We could go and I are both blessed. We could go and I are both blessed. We could go somewhere for a week. Some people listen somewhere for a week. Some people listen somewhere for a week. Some people listen going, I got three kids I got to pick up going, I got three kids I got to pick up going, I got three kids I got to pick up from school. I got to do homework. I got from school. I got to do homework. I got from school. I got to do homework. I got to take them to soccer. I got to get to take them to soccer. I got to get to take them to soccer. I got to get back to work. But here's the thing. You back to work. But here's the thing. You back to work. But here's the thing. You have to give yourself those couple hours have to give yourself those couple hours have to give yourself those couple hours once a week somewhere to just sit with once a week somewhere to just sit with once a week somewhere to just sit with yourself. Sit with God and just be you. yourself. Sit with God and just be you. yourself. Sit with God and just be you. Be with you. And if you can't do that, Be with you. And if you can't do that, Be with you. And if you can't do that, you have to ask yourself, why do I not you have to ask yourself, why do I not you have to ask yourself, why do I not enjoy my own company? enjoy my own company? enjoy my own company? Amen. Amen. Amen. >> Why do I need other people around me all >> Why do I need other people around me all >> Why do I need other people around me all the time? That's worth at least asking the time? That's worth at least asking the time? That's worth at least asking why. And then I think it's building your why. And then I think it's building your why. And then I think it's building your own recipe that causes change in you. So own recipe that causes change in you. So own recipe that causes change in you. So I want to ask you about this and maybe I want to ask you about this and maybe I want to ask you about this and maybe it's not one of the formulas, but as I it's not one of the formulas, but as I it's not one of the formulas, but as I read about you, and I've known about you read about you, and I've known about you read about you, and I've known about you obviously for a long time, but it's not obviously for a long time, but it's not obviously for a long time, but it's not normal resume, bro. I mean, let's just normal resume, bro. I mean, let's just normal resume, bro. I mean, let's just be honest. I mean, I haven't climbed be honest. I mean, I haven't climbed be honest. I mean, I haven't climbed Mount Everest. I haven't walked across Mount Everest. I haven't walked across Mount Everest. I haven't walked across the country. I haven't done the the country. I haven't done the the country. I haven't done the Continental Divide. I almost haven't Continental Divide. I almost haven't Continental Divide. I almost haven't died of a rattlesnake bite. I don't died of a rattlesnake bite. I don't died of a rattlesnake bite. I don't have, you know, Grammy nominations. It's have, you know, Grammy nominations. It's have, you know, Grammy nominations. It's like I'm just a dude with a flag behind like I'm just a dude with a flag behind like I'm just a dude with a flag behind him doing a podcast, right? That's all I him doing a podcast, right? That's all I him doing a podcast, right? That's all I am. But like, so I don't relate to all am. But like, so I don't relate to all am. But like, so I don't relate to all of that. Having said all of that though, of that. Having said all of that though, of that. Having said all of that though, humans develop sort of recipes to their humans develop sort of recipes to their humans develop sort of recipes to their their wellness, their bliss. If you look their wellness, their bliss. If you look their wellness, their bliss. If you look at your life, it looks to me like at your life, it looks to me like at your life, it looks to me like challenging yourself to do something is challenging yourself to do something is challenging yourself to do something is one of those recipes. It's like you it one of those recipes. It's like you it one of those recipes. It's like you it appears as if part of you living your appears as if part of you living your appears as if part of you living your life is a challenge that that then you life is a challenge that that then you life is a challenge that that then you go pursue and see if you can expand your go pursue and see if you can expand your go pursue and see if you can expand your being relative to the level of that being relative to the level of that being relative to the level of that challenges. I I always say I'm addicted challenges. I I always say I'm addicted challenges. I I always say I'm addicted to the expansion of my being, right? Is to the expansion of my being, right? Is to the expansion of my being, right? Is is Thank you. is part of your formula is Thank you. is part of your formula is Thank you. is part of your formula from time to time coming up with a from time to time coming up with a from time to time coming up with a challenge for yourself to see what challenge for yourself to see what challenge for yourself to see what you're capable of or is that something you're capable of or is that something you're capable of or is that something in the past? in the past? in the past? >> It's evolved. It's evolved but it's >> It's evolved. It's evolved but it's >> It's evolved. It's evolved but it's definitely part of it. Right. and and definitely part of it. Right. and and definitely part of it. Right. and and life will give you these challenges life will give you these challenges life will give you these challenges anyways, right? So, it's like I like to anyways, right? So, it's like I like to anyways, right? So, it's like I like to put challenges in my life. So, I'm put challenges in my life. So, I'm put challenges in my life. So, I'm inviting in the grow. I like to set a inviting in the grow. I like to set a inviting in the grow. I like to set a goal sometimes where I go, hey, the goal sometimes where I go, hey, the goal sometimes where I go, hey, the version of me setting this goal cannot version of me setting this goal cannot version of me setting this goal cannot do this. I actually have to become do this. I actually have to become do this. I actually have to become some version of myself that I'm not now some version of myself that I'm not now some version of myself that I'm not now in order to get this done. So, I like a in order to get this done. So, I like a in order to get this done. So, I like a goal like that. Um, in the past they've goal like that. Um, in the past they've goal like that. Um, in the past they've been some physical challenges, some been some physical challenges, some been some physical challenges, some expeditions, things like that. But I'll expeditions, things like that. But I'll expeditions, things like that. But I'll be honest with you, Ed, um, because I I, be honest with you, Ed, um, because I I, be honest with you, Ed, um, because I I, you know, was a was an army of one for you know, was a was an army of one for you know, was a was an army of one for so many years. The challenge now that, so many years. The challenge now that, so many years. The challenge now that, you know, and I have somebody, you know, you know, and I have somebody, you know, you know, and I have somebody, you know, I still run the alt and stuff right here I still run the alt and stuff right here I still run the alt and stuff right here and there, right? It's it's important and there, right? It's it's important and there, right? It's it's important for me to keep that sort of warrior part for me to keep that sort of warrior part for me to keep that sort of warrior part of life, but the number one challenge, of life, but the number one challenge, of life, but the number one challenge, right? I want to I want to be humble right? I want to I want to be humble right? I want to I want to be humble today, right? Because it's like um I today, right? Because it's like um I today, right? Because it's like um I receive what you said. I know God when receive what you said. I know God when receive what you said. I know God when I'm at my best, God is working through I'm at my best, God is working through I'm at my best, God is working through me, right? And not all the time because me, right? And not all the time because me, right? And not all the time because sometimes my brain gets in the way. But sometimes my brain gets in the way. But sometimes my brain gets in the way. But my challenge now is I'm building a my challenge now is I'm building a my challenge now is I'm building a family, family, family, >> you know? And some of the things that >> you know? And some of the things that >> you know? And some of the things that I'm teaching today, dude, like when I'm I'm teaching today, dude, like when I'm I'm teaching today, dude, like when I'm with my fiance, who's the most wonderful with my fiance, who's the most wonderful with my fiance, who's the most wonderful woman in the world, I sometimes get woman in the world, I sometimes get woman in the world, I sometimes get angry, right? I'm like, "Oh, where did angry, right? I'm like, "Oh, where did angry, right? I'm like, "Oh, where did that come from? Oh, that's the part I that come from? Oh, that's the part I that come from? Oh, that's the part I need to work on now." Right? That this need to work on now." Right? That this need to work on now." Right? That this is like this is life pointing me in the is like this is life pointing me in the is like this is life pointing me in the direction what I need to work on. And so direction what I need to work on. And so direction what I need to work on. And so for me, when I said it evolves, for me, when I said it evolves, for me, when I said it evolves, it's less about it's less about it's less about going and do something doing something going and do something doing something going and do something doing something really hard with my body. Although that really hard with my body. Although that really hard with my body. Although that does that does do, you know, it's a does that does do, you know, it's a does that does do, you know, it's a certain flavor of the expansion. But certain flavor of the expansion. But certain flavor of the expansion. But having done a bunch of those, the one having done a bunch of those, the one having done a bunch of those, the one that's more challenging for me is is that's more challenging for me is is that's more challenging for me is is being less selfish, being in a family being less selfish, being in a family being less selfish, being in a family unit, putting others before myself unit, putting others before myself unit, putting others before myself doesn't come naturally to me because doesn't come naturally to me because doesn't come naturally to me because I've been I've been doing the Mike Pner I've been I've been doing the Mike Pner I've been I've been doing the Mike Pner thing for a lot of years, dude. Right. thing for a lot of years, dude. Right. thing for a lot of years, dude. Right. And so that's where the the juice of my And so that's where the the juice of my And so that's where the the juice of my life is now. It's the most challenging life is now. It's the most challenging life is now. It's the most challenging part of my life now because I need to part of my life now because I need to part of my life now because I need to grow the most to have the the family grow the most to have the the family grow the most to have the the family that I that I want that I will have. Um, that I that I want that I will have. Um, that I that I want that I will have. Um, so there's some pain in that for me and so there's some pain in that for me and so there's some pain in that for me and I welcome it. And so the other things I welcome it. And so the other things I welcome it. And so the other things have been training and the other thing have been training and the other thing have been training and the other thing about about about there's been a lot of external there's been a lot of external there's been a lot of external achievements achievements achievements in my life and like I said part of that in my life and like I said part of that in my life and like I said part of that was by design. I wanted to become was by design. I wanted to become was by design. I wanted to become somebody I was proud of. Part of that somebody I was proud of. Part of that somebody I was proud of. Part of that was I wanted to, you know, get was I wanted to, you know, get was I wanted to, you know, get attention. I wanted to be able to go in attention. I wanted to be able to go in attention. I wanted to be able to go in the podcast have my like go, "Oh, he's the podcast have my like go, "Oh, he's the podcast have my like go, "Oh, he's the most interesting." Right? So part of the most interesting." Right? So part of the most interesting." Right? So part of it was not good motive. your it was not good motive. your it was not good motive. your significance significance significance and part of that I think is grace. and part of that I think is grace. and part of that I think is grace. I think that listen I want to share light with the world and I want to share light with the world and for some people they they'll listen to for some people they they'll listen to for some people they they'll listen to me versus someone else because I got all me versus someone else because I got all me versus someone else because I got all these things. these things. these things. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And I got to report back, hey, I was >> And I got to report back, hey, I was >> And I got to report back, hey, I was still at that Michigan house still at that Michigan house still at that Michigan house >> depressed. I was still in Alaska with >> depressed. I was still in Alaska with >> depressed. I was still in Alaska with Elliott thinking maybe I should kill Elliott thinking maybe I should kill Elliott thinking maybe I should kill myself. And so myself. And so myself. And so maybe I think so God gave me all those maybe I think so God gave me all those maybe I think so God gave me all those blessings and then he gave me the pain blessings and then he gave me the pain blessings and then he gave me the pain with it so I could teach from a place with it so I could teach from a place with it so I could teach from a place not not from from having read it in a not not from from having read it in a not not from from having read it in a book but from having lived it. Hey like book but from having lived it. Hey like book but from having lived it. Hey like I got the external stuff but I wasn't I got the external stuff but I wasn't I got the external stuff but I wasn't winning the internal game and you want winning the internal game and you want winning the internal game and you want to be there. So, let me help you win the to be there. So, let me help you win the to be there. So, let me help you win the internal game. And you can win the internal game. And you can win the internal game. And you can win the external game, too. There's a lot He has external game, too. There's a lot He has external game, too. There's a lot He has a lot of teachers on that, right? And a lot of teachers on that, right? And a lot of teachers on that, right? And you can have both. But, you can have both. But, you can have both. But, >> hey man, I agree with you. Like, I I >> hey man, I agree with you. Like, I I >> hey man, I agree with you. Like, I I listen, some of us have just chose our listen, some of us have just chose our listen, some of us have just chose our our giftedness, if we're great at it, our giftedness, if we're great at it, our giftedness, if we're great at it, grabs attention. My sister, I think, is grabs attention. My sister, I think, is grabs attention. My sister, I think, is the greatest school teacher. She's the greatest school teacher. She's the greatest school teacher. She's actually an assistant principal now. Her actually an assistant principal now. Her actually an assistant principal now. Her gift is to work with children, right? gift is to work with children, right? gift is to work with children, right? She's she's expressing her gift and and She's she's expressing her gift and and She's she's expressing her gift and and pushing the expansion of her being pushing the expansion of her being pushing the expansion of her being daily. She's not going to get lots of daily. She's not going to get lots of daily. She's not going to get lots of recognition for that gift. She'll get it recognition for that gift. She'll get it recognition for that gift. She'll get it when she gets to heaven, when she gets to heaven, when she gets to heaven, >> right? And so many of you, your >> right? And so many of you, your >> right? And so many of you, your recognition won't be here. It's okay to recognition won't be here. It's okay to recognition won't be here. It's okay to go chase money. There's nothing wrong go chase money. There's nothing wrong go chase money. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with with that. There's nothing wrong with with that. There's nothing wrong with want have a a big house. That's okay. want have a a big house. That's okay. want have a a big house. That's okay. It's just what we're both telling you It's just what we're both telling you It's just what we're both telling you is, but nothing's worse than a couple is, but nothing's worse than a couple is, but nothing's worse than a couple rich people telling you it's not worth rich people telling you it's not worth rich people telling you it's not worth getting rich. That's not right. It's getting rich. That's not right. It's getting rich. That's not right. It's it's certainly better probably to have it's certainly better probably to have it's certainly better probably to have financial means than not. financial means than not. financial means than not. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> If something's a goal of yours and you >> If something's a goal of yours and you >> If something's a goal of yours and you and God work together to make it real, and God work together to make it real, and God work together to make it real, that's that's wonderful. But when it that's that's wonderful. But when it that's that's wonderful. But when it becomes your identity, becomes your identity, becomes your identity, you will be empty. And so that's the the you will be empty. And so that's the the you will be empty. And so that's the the difference. I'm just curious. I'm difference. I'm just curious. I'm difference. I'm just curious. I'm watching you. watching you. watching you. >> Well said. Well said. >> Well said. Well said. >> Well said. Well said. >> Thank you. Well, you're an em you embody >> Thank you. Well, you're an em you embody >> Thank you. Well, you're an em you embody it. I said it. So, um there's a it. I said it. So, um there's a it. I said it. So, um there's a difference difference difference >> some days. >> some days. >> some days. >> So, I want to ask you, if id have met >> So, I want to ask you, if id have met >> So, I want to ask you, if id have met you at 30, he's 37 when we're recording you at 30, he's 37 when we're recording you at 30, he's 37 when we're recording this. You have a certain uh and this. You have a certain uh and this. You have a certain uh and everyone's hearing it. There's a there's everyone's hearing it. There's a there's everyone's hearing it. There's a there's a spirit about you that's I'd call it a spirit about you that's I'd call it a spirit about you that's I'd call it wise like an old soul but very gentle. wise like an old soul but very gentle. wise like an old soul but very gentle. There's a there's a peaceful spirit There's a there's a peaceful spirit There's a there's a peaceful spirit about you. Had I met you seven years about you. Had I met you seven years about you. Had I met you seven years ago, would that same spirit have been ago, would that same spirit have been ago, would that same spirit have been present or have you sort of or has that present or have you sort of or has that present or have you sort of or has that changed in you? In other words, changed in you? In other words, changed in you? In other words, externally are you different also in the externally are you different also in the externally are you different also in the way that you communicate, you vibrate, way that you communicate, you vibrate, way that you communicate, you vibrate, you know, you go about your life? Has you know, you go about your life? Has you know, you go about your life? Has there been a difference in that or did there been a difference in that or did there been a difference in that or did you always have a little of that? I you always have a little of that? I you always have a little of that? I >> I think there's a huge difference. I >> I think there's a huge difference. I >> I think there's a huge difference. I mean, I feel way different. Um mean, I feel way different. Um mean, I feel way different. Um my my frequency like we talked about my my my frequency like we talked about my my my frequency like we talked about my set point 30 was that 30 was like that set point 30 was that 30 was like that set point 30 was that 30 was like that conversation with Elliot conversation with Elliot conversation with Elliot that was like and that's part of what I that was like and that's part of what I that was like and that's part of what I want to share too with people like cuz want to share too with people like cuz want to share too with people like cuz maybe there's someone listening to this maybe there's someone listening to this maybe there's someone listening to this who's really in a tough moment. who's really in a tough moment. who's really in a tough moment. like really in a tough moment like really in a tough moment like really in a tough moment and maybe no one knows about it, but and maybe no one knows about it, but and maybe no one knows about it, but keep going because at 30 I had no idea keep going because at 30 I had no idea keep going because at 30 I had no idea it would be this good. Not ex not the it would be this good. Not ex not the it would be this good. Not ex not the external stuff the I had no idea it external stuff the I had no idea it external stuff the I had no idea it could feel this good and you can't have could feel this good and you can't have could feel this good and you can't have a life without pain but you have a pain a life without pain but you have a pain a life without pain but you have a pain with a lot less suffering. So at 30 to with a lot less suffering. So at 30 to with a lot less suffering. So at 30 to answer your question I I I was go answer your question I I I was go answer your question I I I was go through a lot of pain. I think I was through a lot of pain. I think I was through a lot of pain. I think I was seeking a lot already. I was already in seeking a lot already. I was already in seeking a lot already. I was already in the meditation. I already read. I'd the meditation. I already read. I'd the meditation. I already read. I'd already spent a lot of time um seeking already spent a lot of time um seeking already spent a lot of time um seeking out answers because I I I out answers because I I I out answers because I I I was searching for them. I was just was searching for them. I was just was searching for them. I was just getting ready to walk across America. Um getting ready to walk across America. Um getting ready to walk across America. Um so I think I could probably spit some so I think I could probably spit some so I think I could probably spit some spit some game at that point. But spit some game at that point. But spit some game at that point. But looking back, was was I really looking back, was was I really looking back, was was I really mastering that that the feeling part, mastering that that the feeling part, mastering that that the feeling part, the internal part yet? No, I hadn't I the internal part yet? No, I hadn't I the internal part yet? No, I hadn't I hadn't figured that out yet. hadn't figured that out yet. hadn't figured that out yet. >> And I haven't fully figured it out now, >> And I haven't fully figured it out now, >> And I haven't fully figured it out now, but I got it more figured out than them. but I got it more figured out than them. but I got it more figured out than them. I relate to that. Is part of that I relate to that. Is part of that I relate to that. Is part of that figuring it out. You talk about figuring it out. You talk about figuring it out. You talk about relationships earlier. I just have this relationships earlier. I just have this relationships earlier. I just have this feeling listening to you and I don't feeling listening to you and I don't feeling listening to you and I don't know this that I have to believe. This know this that I have to believe. This know this that I have to believe. This is just my belief system and you can is just my belief system and you can is just my belief system and you can believe whatever you want everybody. I believe whatever you want everybody. I believe whatever you want everybody. I love all of you. But doing this alone love all of you. But doing this alone love all of you. But doing this alone without a knowing or a growing without a knowing or a growing without a knowing or a growing relationship with your version of God relationship with your version of God relationship with your version of God sure is hard. And for me, sure is hard. And for me, sure is hard. And for me, you know, I'm where I'm at in my life you know, I'm where I'm at in my life you know, I'm where I'm at in my life through God's grace. And I'm pretty bold through God's grace. And I'm pretty bold through God's grace. And I'm pretty bold about that fact. I love people that, you about that fact. I love people that, you about that fact. I love people that, you know, I love people. And so whatever know, I love people. And so whatever know, I love people. And so whatever your faith choice is, that's not what your faith choice is, that's not what your faith choice is, that's not what today's episode's about necessarily, but today's episode's about necessarily, but today's episode's about necessarily, but I'd be making a huge miss if I didn't I'd be making a huge miss if I didn't I'd be making a huge miss if I didn't ask you about that part of your life. ask you about that part of your life. ask you about that part of your life. Um, has your relationship or Um, has your relationship or Um, has your relationship or understanding of God changed over this understanding of God changed over this understanding of God changed over this time as well? And is that a big is that time as well? And is that a big is that time as well? And is that a big is that the most important relationship you have the most important relationship you have the most important relationship you have or one of them? or one of them? or one of them? >> Yeah, it's the most important and it has >> Yeah, it's the most important and it has >> Yeah, it's the most important and it has changed. Um, I grew up changed. Um, I grew up changed. Um, I grew up uh in a Jewish household, but I was uh in a Jewish household, but I was uh in a Jewish household, but I was raised um what was called secular raised um what was called secular raised um what was called secular humanistic. Meaning, humanistic. Meaning, humanistic. Meaning, I went to Sunday school, but I wasn't I went to Sunday school, but I wasn't I went to Sunday school, but I wasn't taught anything about God. taught anything about God. taught anything about God. I asked my mom about this later. I said, I asked my mom about this later. I said, I asked my mom about this later. I said, "Why didn't why did you raise us like "Why didn't why did you raise us like "Why didn't why did you raise us like that?" She goes, "I I had a childhood that?" She goes, "I I had a childhood that?" She goes, "I I had a childhood where a lot of stuff was forced on me." where a lot of stuff was forced on me." where a lot of stuff was forced on me." And so we raised you that way, not And so we raised you that way, not And so we raised you that way, not because I don't believe it. She believes because I don't believe it. She believes because I don't believe it. She believes in God, in God, in God, >> but we raised you that way because we >> but we raised you that way because we >> but we raised you that way because we wanted you to make a decision when wanted you to make a decision when wanted you to make a decision when you're an adult. you're an adult. you're an adult. >> So actually that makes a lot of sense. >> So actually that makes a lot of sense. >> So actually that makes a lot of sense. >> So >> So >> So then um the spiritual part of my life then um the spiritual part of my life then um the spiritual part of my life really started with uh my friend Big really started with uh my friend Big really started with uh my friend Big Sean. Sean. Sean. >> Big Sean. Yeah. Do you know Big Sean? >> Big Sean. Yeah. Do you know Big Sean? >> Big Sean. Yeah. Do you know Big Sean? >> Yeah, I do. I know who he is. Yes. So he >> Yeah, I do. I know who he is. Yes. So he >> Yeah, I do. I know who he is. Yes. So he and I, we met in Detroit when we were and I, we met in Detroit when we were and I, we met in Detroit when we were kids. kids. kids. >> So we're we're the same age. So I knew >> So we're we're the same age. So I knew >> So we're we're the same age. So I knew him when I was 18. And then my music him when I was 18. And then my music him when I was 18. And then my music started to to take off. Then his took started to to take off. Then his took started to to take off. Then his took off and I saw him about we I think we're off and I saw him about we I think we're off and I saw him about we I think we're probably 23 24 and he was like glowing probably 23 24 and he was like glowing probably 23 24 and he was like glowing like like glowing and his the external like like glowing and his the external like like glowing and his the external part of his life was exploding as well. part of his life was exploding as well. part of his life was exploding as well. And I said to him, I'm like, "Dude, what And I said to him, I'm like, "Dude, what And I said to him, I'm like, "Dude, what what what do you what changed?" He goes, what what do you what changed?" He goes, what what do you what changed?" He goes, "You got to read two books. One was The "You got to read two books. One was The "You got to read two books. One was The Alchemist." Alchemist." Alchemist." >> Great book. >> Great book. >> Great book. >> And the second one was asking it is >> And the second one was asking it is >> And the second one was asking it is given. It was a book all about the law given. It was a book all about the law given. It was a book all about the law of attraction. of attraction. of attraction. >> So I read these books and they start >> So I read these books and they start >> So I read these books and they start opening my eyes to have a spiritual part opening my eyes to have a spiritual part opening my eyes to have a spiritual part of my life. I would run. I would say of my life. I would run. I would say of my life. I would run. I would say well I used to be depressed. I would say well I used to be depressed. I would say well I used to be depressed. I would say I am joy. I would say I am faith. I am I am joy. I would say I am faith. I am I am joy. I would say I am faith. I am love. love. love. And it it taught me to reframe And it it taught me to reframe And it it taught me to reframe challenges when they came. But I learned challenges when they came. But I learned challenges when they came. But I learned to ask this new question. to ask this new question. to ask this new question. What am I supposed to learn from this? What am I supposed to learn from this? What am I supposed to learn from this? >> Inherent in that question, you know, >> Inherent in that question, you know, >> Inherent in that question, you know, assume the subtext is like there's assume the subtext is like there's assume the subtext is like there's something out there that is is like something out there that is is like something out there that is is like actually gifting me this experience. actually gifting me this experience. actually gifting me this experience. Byron Katie says life life's not Byron Katie says life life's not Byron Katie says life life's not happening for you. Excuse me. Life's not happening for you. Excuse me. Life's not happening for you. Excuse me. Life's not happening to you. life's happening for happening to you. life's happening for happening to you. life's happening for you, right? you, right? you, right? >> Her book right there. >> Her book right there. >> Her book right there. >> And so >> And so >> And so that that was a big part of faith. And that that was a big part of faith. And that that was a big part of faith. And then it it's it evolved like even it's then it it's it evolved like even it's then it it's it evolved like even it's evolving. evolving. evolving. Excuse me. Last year in 2025, I had some Excuse me. Last year in 2025, I had some Excuse me. Last year in 2025, I had some excuse me, I had some wild experiences excuse me, I had some wild experiences excuse me, I had some wild experiences with with Jesus moving in my life, signs with with Jesus moving in my life, signs with with Jesus moving in my life, signs in my life. Um in my life. Um in my life. Um like just I don't want to go. That's like just I don't want to go. That's like just I don't want to go. That's like, you know, crazy, excuse me, crazy like, you know, crazy, excuse me, crazy like, you know, crazy, excuse me, crazy stories, but just having wild signs stories, but just having wild signs stories, but just having wild signs where Jesus was moving in my life. And where Jesus was moving in my life. And where Jesus was moving in my life. And so, um, it's evolved so much and is so, um, it's evolved so much and is so, um, it's evolved so much and is evolving. Um, but it is the most evolving. Um, but it is the most evolving. Um, but it is the most important relationship. Louise Haye important relationship. Louise Haye important relationship. Louise Haye says, "My security does not come from my says, "My security does not come from my says, "My security does not come from my bank account, my spouse, or my parents. bank account, my spouse, or my parents. bank account, my spouse, or my parents. It comes from my ability to connect to It comes from my ability to connect to It comes from my ability to connect to all that is which I call God. Right? all that is which I call God. Right? all that is which I call God. Right? >> And um that's the only place >> And um that's the only place >> And um that's the only place I I'm always mess up this line from I I'm always mess up this line from I I'm always mess up this line from scripture. Jesus says, you know, don't scripture. Jesus says, you know, don't scripture. Jesus says, you know, don't store up your treasure where what rust store up your treasure where what rust store up your treasure where what rust and thieves can get them or something. I and thieves can get them or something. I and thieves can get them or something. I don't know the exact way to say it. But don't know the exact way to say it. But don't know the exact way to say it. But what he means is what he means is what he means is everything on in on this earth, it everything on in on this earth, it everything on in on this earth, it changes. It goes away. You can't you changes. It goes away. You can't you changes. It goes away. You can't you can't place your security in another can't place your security in another can't place your security in another person. Even in my fiance, I love her. person. Even in my fiance, I love her. person. Even in my fiance, I love her. If she could give me that security, she If she could give me that security, she If she could give me that security, she would. But she's a human being, right? would. But she's a human being, right? would. But she's a human being, right? She can't be exactly what I needed to be She can't be exactly what I needed to be She can't be exactly what I needed to be at all time. And what kind of man would at all time. And what kind of man would at all time. And what kind of man would I be, right? But that's what I needed. I be, right? But that's what I needed. I be, right? But that's what I needed. So, you can only get that security from So, you can only get that security from So, you can only get that security from one place and and that's God. And I one place and and that's God. And I one place and and that's God. And I think that's what we're all searching think that's what we're all searching think that's what we're all searching for. And it's a personal for. And it's a personal for. And it's a personal it's a personal um relationship. it's a personal um relationship. it's a personal um relationship. And um I'm like you. I I love people. And um I'm like you. I I love people. And um I'm like you. I I love people. I'm here to just be a blessing. The more I'm here to just be a blessing. The more I'm here to just be a blessing. The more we can realize, you know, our life we can realize, you know, our life we can realize, you know, our life actually my life actually doesn't belong actually my life actually doesn't belong actually my life actually doesn't belong to me. to me. to me. >> That this higher power and and we talk >> That this higher power and and we talk >> That this higher power and and we talk about not being the mind. I think that's about not being the mind. I think that's about not being the mind. I think that's how you connect to it how you connect to it how you connect to it faster, right? you you identify with faster, right? you you identify with faster, right? you you identify with this part of you that's connected to it this part of you that's connected to it this part of you that's connected to it and you start to live a life that I'm and you start to live a life that I'm and you start to live a life that I'm stepping into more is scary for me and stepping into more is scary for me and stepping into more is scary for me and where you just you just listen to that where you just you just listen to that where you just you just listen to that thing as it guides you and sometimes it thing as it guides you and sometimes it thing as it guides you and sometimes it speaks to us in dreams sometimes speak speaks to us in dreams sometimes speak speaks to us in dreams sometimes speak to us in um through other human beings to us in um through other human beings to us in um through other human beings and sometimes it speaks to us through and sometimes it speaks to us through and sometimes it speaks to us through that still small voice inside us and that still small voice inside us and that still small voice inside us and that's the life that I'm interested and that's the life that I'm interested and that's the life that I'm interested and leading, not one that's like, "Hey, I leading, not one that's like, "Hey, I leading, not one that's like, "Hey, I read this. This is the next step. Let me read this. This is the next step. Let me read this. This is the next step. Let me go do that." No, it's like I I feel like go do that." No, it's like I I feel like go do that." No, it's like I I feel like I'm on a on a magical journey and um and I'm on a on a magical journey and um and I'm on a on a magical journey and um and the breadcrumbs get left for me by by the breadcrumbs get left for me by by the breadcrumbs get left for me by by God. I I I just try to follow what it God. I I I just try to follow what it God. I I I just try to follow what it says and here we are. says and here we are. says and here we are. >> Bro, I'm sitting here emotional. I'm >> Bro, I'm sitting here emotional. I'm >> Bro, I'm sitting here emotional. I'm being this quiet because um I can't being this quiet because um I can't being this quiet because um I can't believe we've had this conversation believe we've had this conversation believe we've had this conversation today. And I I I first off I just today. And I I I first off I just today. And I I I first off I just remember this is you're afraid. Jesus remember this is you're afraid. Jesus remember this is you're afraid. Jesus holds you in the palm of his hand. And holds you in the palm of his hand. And holds you in the palm of his hand. And so he's always with you. He'll never so he's always with you. He'll never so he's always with you. He'll never leave you nor forsake you. And so you leave you nor forsake you. And so you leave you nor forsake you. And so you don't have to have that fear. But I know don't have to have that fear. But I know don't have to have that fear. But I know exactly what you mean. I have it from exactly what you mean. I have it from exactly what you mean. I have it from time to time as well. It just makes me time to time as well. It just makes me time to time as well. It just makes me emotional to see this. The whole emotional to see this. The whole emotional to see this. The whole conversation I've done 800 and some odd conversation I've done 800 and some odd conversation I've done 800 and some odd 900 of these. None have flown by this 900 of these. None have flown by this 900 of these. None have flown by this quickly and none have I felt like I'm quickly and none have I felt like I'm quickly and none have I felt like I'm just in the beginning, just in the beginning, just in the beginning, not the end of this conversation. I not the end of this conversation. I not the end of this conversation. I truly mean that. And um I'm going to truly mean that. And um I'm going to truly mean that. And um I'm going to make you come back on here and do this make you come back on here and do this make you come back on here and do this again. again. again. >> I would love it. Be my pleasure >> I would love it. Be my pleasure >> I would love it. Be my pleasure >> because bro, like uh you know, I'll just >> because bro, like uh you know, I'll just >> because bro, like uh you know, I'll just tell you that you're being used for good tell you that you're being used for good tell you that you're being used for good and um and you're remarkable. Just and um and you're remarkable. Just and um and you're remarkable. Just accept that, please. accept that, please. accept that, please. >> Thank you. And and I uh I also >> Thank you. And and I uh I also >> Thank you. And and I uh I also something's out right now that we need something's out right now that we need something's out right now that we need to talk about at the end because here's to talk about at the end because here's to talk about at the end because here's the good thing about this conversation. the good thing about this conversation. the good thing about this conversation. It's been so incredible. I I'm 100% sure It's been so incredible. I I'm 100% sure It's been so incredible. I I'm 100% sure everybody stayed to the end. That's how everybody stayed to the end. That's how everybody stayed to the end. That's how good this is. And I think everybody's good this is. And I think everybody's good this is. And I think everybody's with me saying please come back. But with me saying please come back. But with me saying please come back. But what's up with I went back to Aiza. We what's up with I went back to Aiza. We what's up with I went back to Aiza. We need to know about this. So tell us. need to know about this. So tell us. need to know about this. So tell us. >> Yeah, it is incredible. So it it's such >> Yeah, it is incredible. So it it's such >> Yeah, it is incredible. So it it's such a blessing. you know, we talk about my a blessing. you know, we talk about my a blessing. you know, we talk about my life story, you know, today and I get to life story, you know, today and I get to life story, you know, today and I get to encapsulate a lot of these moments with encapsulate a lot of these moments with encapsulate a lot of these moments with music, you know. So, you want to know music, you know. So, you want to know music, you know. So, you want to know how I felt right at this moment at how I felt right at this moment at how I felt right at this moment at Elliot where I'm thinking to a real good Elliot where I'm thinking to a real good Elliot where I'm thinking to a real good kid. It's it's, you know, I made an kid. It's it's, you know, I made an kid. It's it's, you know, I made an album, a lot of these chapters of life. album, a lot of these chapters of life. album, a lot of these chapters of life. And so, when I look back on these this And so, when I look back on these this And so, when I look back on these this body of work of music, it's pretty cool body of work of music, it's pretty cool body of work of music, it's pretty cool because it's all there. because it's all there. because it's all there. Um, but I I think it's 12 years ago now, Um, but I I think it's 12 years ago now, Um, but I I think it's 12 years ago now, I wrote a song called I took a pill in a I wrote a song called I took a pill in a I wrote a song called I took a pill in a beza and it was a very successful song beza and it was a very successful song beza and it was a very successful song and it was a heartbreaking song about and it was a heartbreaking song about and it was a heartbreaking song about how empty my life was having reached how empty my life was having reached how empty my life was having reached fame but kind of on the other side of it fame but kind of on the other side of it fame but kind of on the other side of it and the chorus was all I know are sad and the chorus was all I know are sad and the chorus was all I know are sad songs songs songs like maybe two years ago on my birthday like maybe two years ago on my birthday like maybe two years ago on my birthday because I wrote the song on my birthday because I wrote the song on my birthday because I wrote the song on my birthday 26th birthday I I wrote an Instagram 26th birthday I I wrote an Instagram 26th birthday I I wrote an Instagram post. I said, you know, 10 years had post. I said, you know, 10 years had post. I said, you know, 10 years had gone by and this song, every lyric in it gone by and this song, every lyric in it gone by and this song, every lyric in it is now untrue in my life. is now untrue in my life. is now untrue in my life. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> So I went through each line. I said, you >> So I went through each line. I said, you >> So I went through each line. I said, you know what I was talking about in my life know what I was talking about in my life know what I was talking about in my life at that time when it was honest and at that time when it was honest and at that time when it was honest and vulnerable and it was real at the time. vulnerable and it was real at the time. vulnerable and it was real at the time. I go, all these things have transformed I go, all these things have transformed I go, all these things have transformed in 10 years. Like what a great what an in 10 years. Like what a great what an in 10 years. Like what a great what an amazing 10 years. Thank you. amazing 10 years. Thank you. amazing 10 years. Thank you. And And And I had a guy that works me on social I had a guy that works me on social I had a guy that works me on social media. So he would the post went viral. media. So he would the post went viral. media. So he would the post went viral. So then he would like every six months So then he would like every six months So then he would like every six months he would change the post, repost it up, he would change the post, repost it up, he would change the post, repost it up, it'd go viral again. You know how they it'd go viral again. You know how they it'd go viral again. You know how they do that, right? And they keep telling me do that, right? And they keep telling me do that, right? And they keep telling me all this keeps going keeps being taking all this keeps going keeps being taking all this keeps going keeps being taking off. People keep resonating with the off. People keep resonating with the off. People keep resonating with the message. Finally, my fiance says to me, message. Finally, my fiance says to me, message. Finally, my fiance says to me, "Why you keep doing this post about how "Why you keep doing this post about how "Why you keep doing this post about how your life changed?" She goes, "Why don't your life changed?" She goes, "Why don't your life changed?" She goes, "Why don't you rewrite the song with new words you rewrite the song with new words you rewrite the song with new words about your life now?" about your life now?" about your life now?" So I said, "Hey, I'm supposed to come up So I said, "Hey, I'm supposed to come up So I said, "Hey, I'm supposed to come up with the song ideas, you know, with the song ideas, you know, with the song ideas, you know, you're creep creeping in on my you're creep creeping in on my you're creep creeping in on my territory." So I said, "This is a good territory." So I said, "This is a good territory." So I said, "This is a good idea." So I did. So it came out, it just idea." So I did. So it came out, it just idea." So I did. So it came out, it just came out more beautiful than I could came out more beautiful than I could came out more beautiful than I could have imagined. So, um I'm I'm really have imagined. So, um I'm I'm really have imagined. So, um I'm I'm really excited to share that song with the excited to share that song with the excited to share that song with the world and uh people can go check it out. world and uh people can go check it out. world and uh people can go check it out. It's called I I went back to Aiza and uh It's called I I went back to Aiza and uh It's called I I went back to Aiza and uh it's about it's about transformation. it's about it's about transformation. it's about it's about transformation. >> Okay. You're coming back to the Ed Mylet >> Okay. You're coming back to the Ed Mylet >> Okay. You're coming back to the Ed Mylet show. I can tell you. show. I can tell you. show. I can tell you. >> Yes, I am. Yes. I can't wait to meet you >> Yes, I am. Yes. I can't wait to meet you >> Yes, I am. Yes. I can't wait to meet you in person, man. in person, man. in person, man. >> Yeah, brother. Same here. We need to do >> Yeah, brother. Same here. We need to do >> Yeah, brother. Same here. We need to do that. We'll do it soon, too. So, that. We'll do it soon, too. So, that. We'll do it soon, too. So, everybody, I just sometimes already know everybody, I just sometimes already know everybody, I just sometimes already know what your response is, so I'm not going what your response is, so I'm not going what your response is, so I'm not going to add anything to today. This was to add anything to today. This was to add anything to today. This was extraordinary. and um put this one in a extraordinary. and um put this one in a extraordinary. and um put this one in a time capsule and uh I'm really grateful time capsule and uh I'm really grateful time capsule and uh I'm really grateful for you, bro. Really grateful. for you, bro. Really grateful. for you, bro. Really grateful. >> Grateful for you, too. God bless you. >> Grateful for you, too. God bless you. >> Grateful for you, too. God bless you. >> God bless you, man. Hey, everybody. This >> God bless you, man. Hey, everybody. This >> God bless you, man. Hey, everybody. This is This is why I do the show. It's why is This is why I do the show. It's why is This is why I do the show. It's why this old man is still doing this thing this old man is still doing this thing this old man is still doing this thing right now. It's days like today. This is right now. It's days like today. This is right now. It's days like today. This is why I do the show right here. God bless why I do the show right here. God bless why I do the show right here. God bless you everybody. Please share this. Max you everybody. Please share this. Max you everybody. Please share this. Max out your life.