Middle School | This American Life | Episode 449
When someone’s behavior frustrates you, pause before reacting and ask what pressure they may be carrying that you cannot see. In the episode, a teacher helped students understand a classmate’s unstable home situation; that context turned hostility into a constructive peer conversation. Today, replac
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Key Takeaway
When someone’s behavior frustrates you, pause before reacting and ask what pressure they may be carrying that you cannot see. In the episode, a teacher helped students understand a classmate’s unstable home situation; that context turned hostility into a constructive peer conversation. Today, replace one snap judgment with a curious question, a private check-in, or a calmer boundary: “What’s really going on?” Empathy does not excuse harmful behavior, but it can make accountability more effective.
Episode Overview
This episode examines middle school as an intense developmental and social proving ground: a period of experimentation, status anxiety, friendship shifts, and heightened sensitivity to peers. Through stories of dances, identity performance, moving to a new school, student journalism, and one classroom intervention, it shows both the pain of adolescence and the possibility of support, reinvention, and growth.
Main Insights
Ranked strongest first for usefulness, specificity, and support in the episode.
1. Use peer influence to support change
Shannon Grande’s classroom story suggests that peer dynamics can be redirected rather than merely suppressed. After trusted students learned why a struggling classmate was overwhelmed, they spoke with him directly and later reminded him of his own anger-management commitments; he began to see that classmates were frustrated with his behavior, not universally against him.
2. Seek context before judging behavior
The student who arrived angry, unwashed, and unprepared was dealing with shutoff utilities, a damaged roof, and caregiving responsibilities at home. Grande addressed practical needs such as clean clothes, but the episode makes clear that understanding the conditions behind behavior was essential to addressing the isolation and anger cycle.
3. Turn vague distress into a specific problem
Grande recognized broad claims such as “everybody’s against me” as signs that the student was overwhelmed rather than processing his emotions. Later, asking who exactly “they” were and what he was really upset about helped him begin to untangle the feeling instead of escalating the rant.
4. Practice small acts of social courage
After moving, Leo spent days considering whether to invite Devon over, then sent the email despite fearing awkwardness. The visit did not solve his loneliness immediately, but it changed one important fact: he now knew someone at school, showing how a small invitation can create a foothold during a difficult transition.
5. Expect belonging to build gradually
Leo and his parents hoped that one successful afternoon with Devon would quickly fix his dread of school, but Leo said it helped only “a little bit.” The story is a useful corrective to all-or-nothing thinking: early social progress can be real even when distress has not disappeared.
6. Make room for experimentation in adolescence
Linda Perlstein describes middle school as a period when friendships, interests, and opinions remain unusually open to revision. Rather than treating changing friends or short-lived interests as failure, the episode frames trying and dropping things as part of figuring out identity.
7. Exercise skills you want to retain
Perlstein describes early puberty as a period of abundant brain-cell connections in which the connections used more often are more likely to last. Her examples—French and tap dancing learned around age 12 or 13—support a practical implication: repeatedly practice the abilities you want to become durable.
8. Listen flexibly before trying to teach
Evergreen Academy principal Marian Strokes rejects the idea that middle schoolers cannot learn, but says adults must teach creatively while accounting for emotional and physical changes. She emphasizes flexibility, concern, listening, and hearing students out as factors that can reduce unnecessary suffering.
9. Name the fear behind social hesitation
Annie delayed wearing clothes she liked, including her moccasins, because she feared peers would make fun of her. Her story illustrates how anticipated judgment can make even low-stakes self-expression feel risky; identifying that fear can help separate a real threat from a prediction.
10. Treat conflict as repairable, not final
Zakiya described losing friends after hurtful comments and drama, then acknowledged, “I just I need to apologize.” Her willingness to name her part offers a concrete route out of middle-school-style conflict: move from recounting the drama to making a direct repair attempt.
Notable Quotes
"It it's our flexibility. It's our concern. It's our listening to them. It's our hearing them out."
"The ones that last are the ones you exercise more."
"I just I need to apologize. I didn't do that yet. I feel kind of bad about that. So, I'm going to."
Action Items
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Replace one judgment with a context question
When someone is abrupt, disengaged, or reactive today, wait before responding. Ask privately and respectfully, “You seem under pressure—what’s going on?” while maintaining any needed boundary around the behavior.
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Make one low-stakes invitation
Invite a newer colleague, classmate, neighbor, or acquaintance into a concrete shared activity: coffee, a walk, lunch, or a game. Keep the invitation specific and simple, as Leo did by asking Devon to come over.
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Convert a global thought into facts
When you catch yourself thinking “everyone is against me” or “nothing is working,” write down who is involved, what happened, and what you need next. This mirrors Grande’s move from a sweeping emotional claim toward the actual source of pressure.
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Practice a skill worth keeping
Choose one skill you want to strengthen—language, music, movement, writing, or a technical ability—and spend 10 focused minutes practicing it today. Repetition is the episode’s practical “use it or lose it” lesson.
Full Transcript
Transcript of Middle School | This American Life | Episode 449 from This American Life. Auto-generated from episode audio; may contain minor errors.
Hey everybody, Ira Glass here. So, we got this email at a radio show near the end of the school year from a 14-year-old. Hello. Hey, is this Annie? Yeah. I called her up at her house in California and asked her to read it. Mhm. It says, "Dear this American life, I just escaped the whitewashed brickwalled iron gated prison that is commonly known as middle school, and I'm finally out for good. But in all the time I've listened to your show, I have never heard an episode devoted to what goes on inside the walls of a middle school.
I hope you'll think about it. Anonymous. Yeah, you signed it anonymous, but then you actually your email was signed with your name. Yeah. Yeah. I had said anonymous because in middle school, everybody's so judgmental and I didn't want the kids to judge me or anything if they heard me on the radio. Mainly she says that she wrote to us because she and her friends were talking right after they left 8th grade about how terrible middle school was. And she wondered, was it just as bad for other people as it was for them?
You always wonder whether other people are going through the same thing as you. And it'd be cool to like hear other people's stories about it and how what they went through. And if you had to explain to somebody like what are the worst things about middle school? Can can I ask you to just walk me through it? Like what is so bad about middle school? kids there are all in kind of socially awkward stages that the drama every day can be frustrating and girl boy things or if someone likes so and so and and then no matter who you are what you do you'll get made fun of for it anything anything in the world you can get made fun of for in Annie's case she had friends who smoked so she got criticized for smoking but then she also was made fun of for not smoking for being too much of a [ __ ] to start smoking.
She was made fun of for coming from a bilingual elementary school where everybody learned to speak Spanish and spoke it throughout the day. And leaving elementary school, I guess I thought that when I got to middle school, everyone would think it was really cool that I spoke Spanish, but when I got there, they mostly just thought it was dumb. I don't know if they were jealous or what, but they [clears throat] would make fun of me for it. Then they'd say we're all full of ourselves for that we spoke different languages and stuff.
Did it make you feel bad? Yeah. I didn't want to stick out in that way if I got a new sweater or something, say for Christmas that I really liked and I would really want to wear it to school or something, but I'd be nervous because like what if someone didn't like my sweater or someone made fun of me for wearing it? It can be hard to do even the smallest things because you're so nervous that people tease you or judge you from it. That sweater example, is that a real example?
Yeah, it actually is. I worried about it so much. I also had a pair of moccasins that I had never worn and they're kind of my signature now. Everybody really likes them. They're like ankle high lace up moccasins. And how long did you have the moccasins before you actually wore them? A few months. Like probably two months. I guess I just thought if people didn't like them, they would all make fun of me for wearing them, and I didn't want to stand out that much. What could be done to make middle school better?
I don't think you can really do anything about it. [laughter and gasps] Nothing. We talked about this for a little while. She said, "Basically, everybody comes into middle school as a little kid, and then you're going to have to grow up and figure out who's in what group and who you are and who's above who. And you'd have to figure that out somewhere at that age, right? Might as well be middle school. It was terrible," she says. But now she's in high school. Whatever Whatever middle school was, it worked.
Everyone's a lot friendlier, and it's Everyone's lives are a lot better now. What a day on our radio program for Annie. We look at whatever it is that happens in those mysterious years that we call middle school. As the new school year begins, we have stories today from all over the country. People lurching their way through these years when you're figuring out so so much. We go to middle school dances and classrooms and down to the Mexican border. From WBEZ Chicago, it's this American life. I'm Glass.
Stay with us. This is American Life. Today's show is a rerun, one that we thought would be a nice one to run for returning to school with act one, life in the middle ages. So, we wanted to understand what is going on exactly physically and emotionally with middle school kids. And we talked to all kinds of people about that this last few weeks. And um one of the producers on our staff had a very strong opinion about all this. Alex Bloomberg before he got into radio, he taught in a middle school in Chicago for four years.
He was a science teacher. And he concluded from that experience, I don't know if they learned anything. Like they are so consumed with learning all these other lessons about where they fit in and and the social order and how their bodies are now working and who they're attracted to and who they're going to be. that facts and figures and geography and all the other stuff that you teach in school, it just doesn't even penetrate. Wait, wait. Are you saying like we shouldn't even bother to have them in school?
We should just basically put them to work in the factory for, you know, two or three years. Yeah. I basically came away thinking like you're you're sort of wasting your time trying to teach middle school students anything. If that seems just insane, Alex told me that Maria Monttoauri, who's the creator of the Montasauri schools, who looked at what kids could learn at each developmental stage, at one point in her career, actually tossed out a similar suggestion. Perhaps she said young adolescence would be better off at a farm school, what she called an aired kinder where they would work with the land.
Is he just got a great sense of humor or what? I um ran Alex's thoughts by Marian Stroke, the principal of Evergreen Academy Middle School in Chicago, which was listed as one of the best middle schools in the country, a school to watch by the National Forum to Accelerate Middlegrades Reform. You have to be I have to say I Well, I I obviously don't agree. Okay. I think that uh we definitely have a way to stick knowledge in their heads. It's it's being creative about how we do it and taking into consideration all of those other things.
It it I'm not going to lie, it's it's not easy. Can I ask you h how much of the stereotype around students this age is true? Are you saying are you saying that the stereotype is true? You just got to deal with what it is. It is true and you have to as the adult in the situation, you have to find a way to work around it. Um find a way to help them to grow up. They they won't have to suffer if we do things right.
They won't have to suffer as much, let's say. I mean, you're going to go through emotional changes and your body's changing. that that can't be helped. Um the raging hormones that can't be helped. All of that can't be helped. It's the way that we react to it that will make such a difference in their lives. It it's our flexibility. It's our concern. It's our listening to them. It's our hearing them out. And so what's actually happening developmentally in the bodies and brains of kids when they're in middle school?
Let me give the overview this way. The terrible twelves are a complete analog to the terrible twos. They're just not as cute, right? This is Linda Pearlstein when she wrote a book called Not Much Just Chillin: The Hidden Lives of Middle Schoolers, following five middle school students very closely for a full year. She also incidentally researched everything she could find out about what is going on developmentally with kids that age that makes them so different from other ages and fascinating. This is the time of biggest growth for a human being aside from infancy.
So your bones are sitting growing. Your bones are growing faster than your muscles. So you can't actually sit still. But your brain, your gray matter during the middle school years, what happens in your early stages of puberty is this vast overproduction of brain cells and connections, far more than you actually need. and [snorts] only some of them are going to survive puberty. This growth in your frontal cortex um it peaks at 11 for girls and 12 for boys. And then what happens is the cells just fight it out for survival.
And the ones that last are the ones you exercise more. In other words, during those years, your brain turns you into you, the adult you. The stuff you don't exercise just kind of goes away. And what stays? So, if you think about what you learned at the early stages of puberty, I don't know what that was for you. For me, it was tap dancing and French. You know, it sticks. I know French much better than any language I learned after that. And not because I had a better teacher.
I was learning it at the right time. I can still do tap dances, though I won't that I learned when I was 12 or 13. Yeah. I can still do magic tricks that I learned at that age. Exactly. It's like it it's it's it's embossed in your existence. It's this important time for your brain. It's like this use it or lose it time. Linda Pearlstein agrees that all the stereotypes about middle schoolers, everything in fact that Annie complained about, all of that is true. But she says that there's a flip side that people don't usually talk about.
Middle school is when kids open up to the world. It's when they think about bigger things. and they haven't formed their opinions on things yet. Everything is up for grabs, which is amazing to be around. I just think kids that age are fun. I like being around them. Middle schoolers are in that real nice spot of being interesting, but also being able to explain to you what's going on in their minds and why they do the things they do. You know, they're they're self-reflective. They're capable of self-reflection in a way that younger kids might not be.
Older kids, she says, high school kids, by then they can be jaded or cynical. They're settling into who they are. Middle school, everything's new. You're probably picking your friends for the very first time. For the first time, they aren't just the kids on your block or your parents' friends's kids or the kids who are around. And so, you make a best friend one day who then you drop two weeks later. You get obsessed with guitar or computers or dance for two weeks and then two weeks later you drop it.
for everything that's awful about middle school. She says that's the great thing about it. You experiment two stutter steps. One good place to see the experiment that is life in middle school in action is a middle school dance. Last Friday, there were middle school dances all over the country, all at the same time. And we sent reporters to a half dozen of them to find out how kids were doing. They talked to them before the kids went inside to the field of battle. And no surprise, we found a lot of stress, a lot of uncertainty.
Who's nervous about tonight? I am. I don't know. Why? Um, well, just I don't know. We don't know what it's going to be like. I'm just confused. I just don't know. I Yeah. I mean, we've gone to these things before, but they've never exactly had the term dance to it. These four girls are sixth graders, and they're in a car on the way to a neon themed dance at Edgewood Middle School in Highland Park, Illinois with their mom and reporter Rob Woodbar. Who's going to dance with a boy tonight?
Nobody. I don't I can tell you that. You don't know what's going to be like slow dancing or regular dancing. That's why we are nervous. Roughly 800 miles east in New Jersey, sixth grader Ethan D. Rose was hoping that there would be at least one slow dance, though. Did he feel ready for a slow dance? Nope, not at all. Why not? What What What do you What are you worried about? I just don't know how to do it. Like, um I'm not sure that I'll I'll do it correctly or Yeah.
He's standing in front of the school with reporter Brian Reed as kids stream into the school. Ethan is wearing a button-up shirt with green and black stripes that he is not happy with. That was my mom. She made me wear it. She said that if I don't wear the two shirts that I'm wearing right now that I can't go to the dance. What are you hoping happens at this dance? I'm hoping I don't like nothing bad happens like no humiliation or not something that'll be a story for the next month or two.
At least me. Of course, Ethan and the girls in that car in Illinois are sixth graders. In New York City, seventh graders Evelyn Benson and Alice Westerman are excited and feeling very grown up on their way to their school's Halloween dance. I'm really happy because like last year um they like split the gym in half so it's like light on one side and like pitch black on the other side. All the sixth graders are kind of like banned from the dark side, but that's where like all the cool kids are.
So now we're in seventh grade. a dance on the dark side. So, it's like we're cool. Dance on the dark side. Don't dance on the dark side. Some of the middle school boys got up the nerve to ask girls to be their dates to the dances. But because this is a new experience for the girls, too, being asked out on a date, they don't exactly know how to handle it. Here's a girl named Autumn talking with our producer Lisa Pavak in Delaware. The afternoon of the dance.
Did you get asked to the dance? Um, yes, I did. And what did you say? I said I don't know, but I probably won't say yes. Wait, you haven't told him yes or no yet? No. Okay, so it's it's 1:20 and the dance is at at 7. Yeah. When do you have to let him know? I probably won't answer. Are you serious? Yeah. I just kind of want to hang out with the girls. So, he's the only one who asked you. There was other people, too.
[gasps] How many? Probably fiveish. What? F five boys asked you to the dance. Yeah. You told all these guys, I don't know. Yeah. What if they took that as a yes? Then they got the wrong answer. Do you say I don't know because it feels too mean to say no? Yeah, I'm not mean. Of course, some of the boys are no better. During the dance in Windamina, reporter Claire Hullman pulled sixth grader Christopher Potter out of the action for a chat. Is there anyone you like at the dance?
There is. Does she know? Yes, she does. We're kind of dating at the time. So, how's that going? Good. It just started like 20 minutes into this. So, yeah. You asked a girl to go out during this dance? No. Um, a girl came to me and asked me out. Okay, let's go minute by minute. So, where were you when this happened? I was in the cafeteria, just got um a drink of root beer and she walks up to me and um asks me to go out.
What did she say exactly? She said, "Chris, will you go out with me?" And were you surprised? Not really. We've kind of been like on and off again. So, it's not the first time? Yeah, not the first time. But she always ask you or do you ever ask her? Well, um it's kind of weird because it's always she wants me to ask her. So, it was weird that she asked me. Usually don't they don't last. It's a middle school relationship. Nothing really happens. What does that mean like a middle school relationship?
What do you mean doesn't last? I don't it just it just is destined to to fail pretty much. Yeah, cuz like it's a middle school. I mean you this isn't like where you're starting your life with. You don't hear things about middle school sweethearts. In Richmond outside Moody Middle School's dance, reporter Eric Menel spoke with Elliot German and his stepbrother Jonathan Lton. They're both eighth graders who ran through the official rules for the dance. So, some of them are kind of funny. It says, I mean, it's like no hands below the waist.
Um, no petting, which I thought was kind of funny. No petting. Yeah. Yeah. No petting. What does that mean? No one knows. Like, like it was specifically on like the flyer that they hand out. Like they give you the dress code and then they give you like the rules. No petting. And it's in like quotations and you never know what it means. It's like do people like sit there at dances and just like pet other people? cuz I be really weird. There are rules like this at all the dances and uh some more comprehensible than others.
As for uh whether or not the kids obey the rules and what actually happens inside the dance on the actual dance floor, one of our producers, Lisa Pollock, went inside to the dance floor, had the fall costume dance in Louis, Delaware, and uh I'm going to hand it off to her. So, the scene in the gym was pretty much the way you remember it. Older kids dancing in the middle, younger kids at the periphery, a few aimlessly wandering around looking like they're not sure what to do.
Lots of kids were dancing, jumping up and down. Occasionally, you'd see a fist pump. They danced in these tightly packed clusters with very little room between them. And outside of the clusters were chaperones, ready to step in if they saw any grinding or suggestive dancing. Hovering outside one of the clusters was a teacher named John Gau. And he looked perplexed. This knot has got me on edge at this point. Uh why? Because they're trying to get away with stuff. Like you can tell by the way they're looking at you.
Are you they have a guilty look cuz you're about to see me swoop. He actually did swoop. He plunged into the pack of kids, pulled a boy aside, and talked to him. Then he told me why he needed to be taken aside and told to stop. being up against those girls like that. That's why, you know, I draw I I don't want to jump in too much, but I just want to give them like the the wo with the flat hand. Whoa. Just whoo. Just calm it down a little.
I mean, usually if I see it, then they're going to stop because they see me. And then comes the moment of truth. The moment that forces every kid in the room to make a decision, the moment that separates the timid from the brave, the slow song. I watch it with teacher Brian Comro. So, we got our slow song and just as I suspected, a majority of the students left the dance floor. All the one all the couples are in the middle of the dance floor in a cluster.
Um, and I I suspect so they're not near an adult. I love how the kids go up to the couples dancing and interrupt them. Oh, absolutely. Some of the couples didn't have much privacy. Their friends were standing a foot away, hanging out and talking to them. And every so often, a random kid would just cut across the dance floor. This girl right here just grabbed onto the back of her friend's neck while the friend is dancing with the bullet. Yeah. Yep. I don't know if she didn't want to be left out or they came as friends or I think at this stage of the game it's hard when boys and and girls pair off and then one friend is always left behind.
There's a few of these slow dances, but most of the songs are fast. And then suddenly the song hit the Road Jack starts playing and the lights snap on. Oh my god. They just all like, "Oh my god." Yeah. It ends very abruptly. What just happened? It's nine. It's 9:00. That's it. That's it. There's no wind down. 9:00 lights come on. Parents are waiting. It'll be It'll be empty in another minute. And he was right. The experiment in mini adulthood that is a middle school dance was over.
The same kids who minutes earlier were holding each other and swaying awkwardly on the dance floor got into cars and said hi to their parents. Lisa Pollock. Coming up, surviving middle school by pretending that you are from a completely different family. That is in a minute from Chicago Public Radio when our program continues. This American Life, I'm Era Glass. Each week on a show, of course, you choose a theme, bring you different kinds of stories on that theme. Today's show, a rerun on middle school. A 14-year-old from California who just got out of middle school asked for a show on the horror that is middle school.
It'd be cool to like hear other people's stories about it and how what they went through. We thought, you know, that's a pretty good idea. That is a place with a lot of stories. We've arrived at act three of our show. Act three, Mimi's in the middle. the place that Domingo Martinez went to middle school, they still called it junior high. And he says that his sisters did something to cope with any feelings of inferiority they might have otherwise felt in their new school with all those new kids.
When they started junior high, my sisters Mary and Margie invented the Mimmeis as a way to cope with any feelings of inferiority they might have otherwise experienced. They were entering the sinister world of teenage girls, which in the mid1 1980s in Brownsville, Texas, was tinged with border town racism. Instead of being ashamed of who they were, my sisters decided to create a polite fiction and invited everyone to participate. First, they dyed their brown black hair blonde until it turned the color and brittleness of hay. Then, they began dressing in Sir Joe Valente and Gloria Vanderbilt.
And finally, to cap it off, they decided to call each other simply Mimi. The typical conversation between them went like this. Mimi, do you like my new Jordans? Yes, Mimi, I do. Do I look rich in my new Nikes? Mimi. Mimi, you look like a tennis player, Mimi. I know, Mimi. Maybe I should make mom buy me a racket. It was really that simple. The Mimis made a conscious decision that they would be rich and white even if their family wasn't. In other words, Marge and Mare had a small break from reality that we all participated in to help them through junior high.
We all helped in creating the Mimis. At the time, the rest of the family had not fully realized that our job as relatively new Americans and worse yet Texans was to be as wide as possible. And we honestly didn't see their delusion as anything other than another bewildering tactic in our sister's quest for a higher level of superior fashion. Just teenage girls doing what teenage girls do. There had been a time when our family had been rich by bario standards because our grandpa, dad's stepfather, fought in the Korean War and used his GI money to start a trucking business when he got back.
He married grandma, who was widowed from her first marriage at age 16, and gave both her and my dad citizenship. My siblings and I, we were all born in Brownsville as Americans, but really didn't understand what that meant. Not really, not in that area. Then grandpa died in 1980, and our world began to crumble. The trucking business began to disintegrate around dad, and he was started on a slow road towards desperation and religion. Meanwhile, the Mimis had made their decision to be two blue-blooded, trustfunded tennis buddies from Connecticut, accidentally living in Brownsville, Texas with us.
A poor Mexican family they had somehow befriended while undergoing some Denzian series of misfortunes. No one acted like it was peculiar, especially those in the family who didn't speak English or could not understand the Mimies when they showed up at family gatherings. Yo, no puo. Ablaro espanolo, one of the mimis would say to an uncle or cousin, who more [snorts] often than not would linger lasciviously around them, at first conflicted by the idea of being turned on by so young a relative, and then mentally calculating just how distantly related they were, and tabulating his odds at scoring with this new white chick who just happened to show up at this bario party, but only after two or three beers.
Mimi, how did you like my Spanish? Oh, Mimi, it's getting really good. Mimi, do you think they understood me? Oh, Mimi, who cares? Soon, the Mimis were buzzing at a fever pitch, intoxicating everyone who came near and caught a whiff of the Mimi's Ana Anaise perfume. We had all seen the commercials on network television while watching Dallas or Knots Landing. And it was a forbidden fragrance for rain depressed English women with secret muscular boyfriends who drove Jaguars dangerously through unpaved onelane Scottish roads. So the Mimis had to have it and they found it at the local J.
C. Penney and had mom pay for it. Me and my brother Dan and our oldest sister Sylvia, we just kind of stank from the heat and dealt with it. Even mom developed her own fascination with the Mimmeis, like she couldn't believe her luck now that she was related to royalty. Feeding into their fantasy gave her one of her own, so she was always ready for an air conditioned trip to the mall. She took the little clothes budget reserved for us boys, my brother and me, and added it into the Mimi's wardrobe.
Because to her, it was a sign of status for the family that the Mimis looked their best. None of the rest of us would question it, even though it felt wrong. I was often left with the Mimi's recently stylish handme-downs. No one else in my grade school was remotely label conscious or capable of reading in English really, so it passed unnoticed that most of my clothes were made for glamorous junior high school girls. Almost every child at my school came from recently immigrated families. Kids so poor they'd save half their free lunch to share with their younger siblings at home, their heads shaved to rid them of lice.
My best friend Arthur, he noticed though. He was part black and part Mexican. had just moved to Brownsville from some big city slum in Michigan where his mother's boyfriend had been employed at a GM factory and he read labels. "Hey, Dom," he said. "Yo man, you're wearing a girl shirt or is a spree making baggy boy shirts now, too?" So, to change the subject, I slugged him high in the chest and ran away. He chased me down to punch me back and left me crying in my girl's blouse.
If she had any guilt about giving the Mimis the lion share of the clothing budget, I imagine the justification my mother probably used was that my older brother and I would just ruin our clothes, working with dad under the greasy trucks. It made better sense for the Mimis to be in high fashion than for the feral boys to wreck new clothes. Mimi, you look just like Jennifer Beals in Flash Dance. You should join the dance team at school. I know, Mimi. I think so, too. Mimi, I think you should dye your hair back to its original color.
Ash. I know, Mimi. I'm trying. During this time, my brother Dan's eyesight was so bad he couldn't read the blackboard in school and constantly ran into corners or short, skinny people. People thought he was Asian. He squinted so much. Every photo of him taken in junior high, he looks like he's trying to see into the photographers's eyes through the camera lens. This, of course, goes entirely unnoticed. And it is the younger Mimi, Mary, with a 2020 vision, who gets vanity glasses with her name etched in gold script in the corner.
Dan wouldn't get glasses until he was in the military when he was 17. Eventually, Dad's failure at navigating the business and providing for his family intruded on the Mimi's fantasy. Dad made a decision that as soon as school ended, mom would take the Mimis and Sill and drive them to California to participate in the seasonal grape harvest with dad's cousins. People vaguely related to grandma through marriage. I think they would be treated like adults there, paid the same as everyone else. Mom, I remember, was horrified at the implications, at the shame of having to send her virginal and royal daughters out to the fields.
Plus, dad's extended family out in California were very different from us. Wild and frightening and Californian. The Mimis though were undaunted. Did not understand the complications. Mimi, we're going to California. Oh my god. Mimi, we're going to be Valley Girls. Mimi, gag me with a spoon. Mimi, Mimi, your roots are showing. We packed up mom, the Mimis, and Sylvia in the beige 1980 Pontiac Bonavville, already an antique on its second engine and failing transmission, and they drove out of Brownsville. A year later, I took this ride as well and also ended up picking grapes for the summer, mostly out of envy.
that we were migrant workers for that period didn't occur to me nor to anyone else. That label would never stick. Could never stick. We couldn't descend to that level. We just had to do it to help out Dad. That was all. Desperate circumstances calling for desperate measures and all that. But it was too much for the Mimis. The reality of this first trip. Sadly, I think it was childhood's end for the Mimis. The vineyards had somehow inverted their secret garden, and the low door in the wall had closed shut behind them.
When they first reached California, the Mimis did indeed become valley girls, the hippest, cutest, best dressed migrant workers of that year, and very likely for many years to come. The older Mimi, Marge, continued to dress like Jennifer Beals in Flash Dance out in the fields, where the sun sizzled any inch of exposed skin. She wore a spaghetti strapped red and white striped aspree top, white cotton shorts, and a matching headband with her red and white leather Nike tennis shoes, and took pictures of the vineyards and the workers with her Canon AE1.
Her headband kept a white strip of skin on her forehead from tanning, and as a result, she was forced to wear headbands for a few months afterwards, way after headbands were out of fashion. Eventually though, even she started dressing like the rest of the migrant workers, wearing long-sleeved collared shirts buttoned all the way to the neck, thick unstylish denim and work boots with a bandana covering her nose and mouth, or else she would have died of heat stroke. There were no photos taken of that. Mary, the younger Mimi, did not fare any better.
Her vanity glasses with the fake lenses were scratched well beyond recovery. Her roots grew out and her hair turned a lighter brown as a result of the heat and the pesticides of the grape fields of Southern California. The hard work went on all summer and eventually it became bitter enough to breach even the walls of the Mimi's perfectly constructed fantasy. And so sadly eventually even they were humiliated and the illusion of wealth that had kept the family's idea of itself buoyant was deflated. When they returned to Brownzel, as happy as we were to see them, no one ever mentioned the Mimmeis again.
They were gone, and it was Marge and Mary that returned to their place. Mary rubbing her nose with the palm of her hand from allergies and snapping at anyone who tried to talk to her, and Marge, who never went back to California, and took a job at the bank the following summer instead. I was sorry to see the Mimis go. We all were. When they were at their peak, the Mimis had been capable of creating a real sort of magic around them, enchanting both people and places so that you could be looking at the same dreary landscape as them, the same terrible and hopeless event.
And while you might be miserable and bitter, they would be beaming, enthralled, and enthusiastically hopeful. And then if you got near them or were blessed enough to maybe talk to them, you would walk away feeling the same way as they felt, too. They were a gift to everyone who was lucky enough to get caught in their anis. The mimmeis they made all of us Americans. Domingo Martinez reading an excerpt from his book, The Boy Kings of Texas, which is memoir and a finalist for the National Book Award.
Since we first broadcast today's show, Domingo's published another memoir called My Heart is a Drunken Compass. Act four, anchor babies. So this week, as we were putting together the radio show and sending reporters out into middle schools, we discovered that in schools all over the country, there already were reporters on the ground. Deep inside, covering the issues that middle school kids really care about. Good afternoon, Huskys. It is Thursday, September 15th, 2011. After today, there are only 162 school days until summer vacation. I'm Taylor and I am These are student newscasters from Hart Middle School in Pleasanton, California.
I myself uh got my start on the mic on the morning announcements. And this is what middle school morning announcements in some schools are like. Today, students make these fullblown video productions. Some of them have music themes. The kids stand in front of banners with their school logo or sometimes it's a green screen backdrop so they make it look like they're on a local TV news set. Our producer Jonathan Menhivar has been watching these newscasts all week with fascination and uh he has noticed a few trends.
Just like the local news, middle school newscast tend to follow a formula. They almost all start with the pledge of allegiance and to the republic. This next segment from DMS News at Dibble Middle School in Dibble, Oklahoma, is a staple of almost every broadcast I watched. Okay, we have late breaking news. You will be the first to know that we have two birthdays today. Happy birthday to both Gabriel Romero and Nathan Naidell. This has to qualify as breaking news because it's school. There's not a lot of exciting stuff for them to report.
They have to tell their fellow students what the cafeteria is serving that day, when makeup pictures are being taken, and do the weather. My favorite comes from this girl, McKenna, near Buffalo, who's clearly had enough. Good morning, Amish Middle School. This is McKenna with today's weather. It's going to be how it is like it is now pretty much all day. In the afternoon, colder, windy, and wet with heavier rain. In the evening, winds to the southwest 15 to 25. These newscasts are middle school in relief, like what you'd see if there was a middle school exhibit at the Natural History Museum.
There are tiny kids with big ears, shy, red-faced kids, jocks, computer club kids, completely normal, super sweet, overachieving ones. They were fun to watch. I'd forgotten that middle school kids can have this overconfident goofiness. I spent days watching kids deliver these newscasts, and I was curious what they'd be like if they actually reported on the stories that mattered the most to them, stuff they'd never say on the morning announcements, the big headlines in their school that week. Amanda, get out of my way. So, I found a school that was willing to play along.
Parkville Middle School is just north of Baltimore, and the students there do their morning announcements as a six-minute show called PTV. With the help of their teacher, Miss Davis, the kids put out a really involved production. There's three TV cameras, a control room, and the anchors sit at one of those giant news desks. It has a PTV logo on it. Behind them, there's a backdrop of downtown Baltimore. Girls, don't forget to watch your hair. I see Amanda special sitting right on your mic. With Miss Davis's help, I enlisted the kids in this experiment to write up a newscast with news from their lives and the stories they each cared about.
And they delivered. They said they had fun doing it. So, I've heard that there is a new Martin Luther King Jr. statue in Washington, DC. That statue doesn't even look like him. It looks like he has a unibrow. Our school's getting their boiler fixed, and they talked over the announcements like it was an important thing, but it didn't really sound important to me. But I guess they thought it was important for some students and the teachers. Kids were randomly clapping at lunch and the teachers got fed up.
So last week a rule was made that you're not allowed to clap. So at lunch this one kid Raymond clapped. I think he got suspended. The US Department of Agriculture is banning potatoes from school and lunches. I love potatoes. They can just make them healthier or something. They don't have to ban them. The weather has been terribly cold lately. I've had to wear my UGG boots like five times in the past 3 weeks. I swear if I find any dirt on them anywhere, mother nature is going to hear from me.
So, over the weekend, my best friend told me he's still going trick-or-treating. He says he's going with a friend from school. Personally, I think we are all too people to be trick-or-treating. Well, that is all I have for today. I'm Billy Cochran. Have a good day. Zakia Bryant decided to go hyper local with her news. She wears glasses and she had her hair pulled back with a headband. In local news, aka here at Parkville Middle, there is a lot of drama going on. Me personally, I lost most of my friends.
I really miss those chicks, but I don't think they feel the same. Kayn and Jay were my besties, and now they're gone. I still love them, though. They're my sisters. Well, I don't really have too much more to say because my life is kind of boring. So, deuces. Zaki and I talked for a while. She told me that deuces is just another way of saying peace out. Can I ask you about your friends? What what happened? Well, it was a lot of drama going on. Some things got said and people's feelings got hurt and some of us made up, some of us didn't.
But I hope that we can. Yeah, it sucks. So, you're just you're not talking to them at all. Well, actually, she's not talking to me because I called her a name and it hurt her feelings. So, yeah, she's very upset with me. I just I need to apologize. I didn't do that yet. I feel kind of bad about that. So, I'm going to The very last kid I talked to was Jaw Wadi. She sandwiched him a surprising news in between a couple other stories. My brother goes to Penn State and he's on the football team and I've been to all the home games and they're a lot of fun.
The students are crazy and they get dressed up in blue and white. It's really cool. So, my friend is always depressed and then she's like mad at me all the time. So, I don't understand that. I was watching the news the other day and they were talking about how President Obama Did you catch that? About her depressed friend. I asked JF it was hard to write about her. Yeah, cuz I didn't want to like hurt her feelings, but she really doesn't care cuz she said she wrote about me, too.
Oh, this is um Zakiya. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't realize that her friends she was talking about were in this class. Yeah, we are. But I've known her since like fifth grade. So, we kind of fight a lot, but we always wind up being friends in the end. So, what what happened exactly? Nothing really. Just people telling other people things, spreading rumors and drama. Middle school. M. Davis, the journalism teacher at Parkville Middle, is always stressing that her students be factual and truthful in their stories.
The news isn't rumors and opinions. But in middle school, sometimes it's hard to remember that. It's hard to step back and look at a story from different perspectives. Jonathan Mehivar. These days he's the executive producer of a new podcast from the Guardian called Stateside with Kai and Carter. They're on YouTube and everywhere you get your podcasts. Fact five. Blue kid on the block. Last September, a kid that we're going to call Leo, not his real name, started seventh grade at a new school. And he was having a more extreme experience.
He was having a harder time finding his place in middle school than other middle school kids because he was new to town. His family had just arrived from Rochester, New York. He had that on top of everything else. Leo still loved Rochester. He loved his school there. He loved his friends. Suddenly everything about his life was different and according to Leo much, much worse. The signature in his Gmail account read, "Rchester is much better in big red letters." Sarah Kanig knows Leo and his parents and visited them at home to see how Leo was doing.
This is how much Leo does not want to be here. When I got to his house, he was on the sofa with a laptop investigating Greyhound bus schedules. His mother was going to drive him and his sister back to Rochester for the Columbus Day weekend, but not until Saturday morning, and Leo wanted to get there Friday for more time with his friends. A multi-stage negotiation followed with his dad. For one thing, a bus ticket costs money. That's not the That's not a problem. Not for you.
No, that wasn't a problem for you. No, but there isn't one. There isn't one that's not 6:15 in the morning. And you won't let me miss school on Friday. The bus takes 8 hours. Even if you left at noon, you'd eat it. Yeah, you're going to do the math. That's excellent. Never mind that the bus takes twice as long as driving. And never mind that Leo would be alone and have to change buses. And that his parents had no intention of letting him go through with this plan.
But it's the kind of negotiation you indulge when your kid is miserable. And Leo is miserable. He told me right away he was and that he had been from the moment he got here in August. Is this the first time you've in your life where you felt like you've been sad about something for this long? I think so, except for maybe when my other cat died, my old cat. And does this feel worse than that? Yes. Oh, really? Mhm. I've never had long periods of until now.
I don't know. I don't know anyone here really. And I think it's just everything in general. It's overwhelming. Back in Rochester, Leo had known all his best friends since kindergarten or before. They played together at school, after school, on weekends. Everybody knew everybody. Everything was comfortable. And as a sixth grader in his old school, he and his friends were at the top of the heap. They wore green sashes in the morning and got to be door monitors for the younger kids coming into the building. So imagine now Leo takes a school bus for the first time to his new school, a sprawling one-story building full of sixth, seventh, and eighth graders.
Leo's small for his age, only a hair taller than his sister who's only 9 years old. On day one, he knows exactly no one. It was much louder than my old school. Much louder. people talking, people closing and opening lockers, people walking. It was just noise. Just older kids, more kids because uh my old school was tiny. Leo is between. He's old enough to decipher Greyhound bus schedules, but not old enough to actually travel on one by himself, and old enough to know that if he's going to survive in middle school, he has to make friends.
but that making those friends stands to be significantly more complicated than it was back in Rochester. Leo's sister Aen is in fourth grade. He says she's not having as hard a time of it. She hasn't been alive as long. She hasn't made as deep connections and she's already met some a friend in her school. I think it's easier to make friends in elementary school than in middle school. Oh, really? Why? Because people care less about who you are. What do you mean by that? The older you get, the more you judge people on their looks, their background, their how they act, like what cool is for kids.
Because in kindergarten, you could just walk up to someone and say, "Do you want to be my friend?" And they would then that would be it. But it's harder. I just think people are more wary before they open up. They like I don't know in first grade I if I met someone I wouldn't really care who they were. I would just care if they were nice or not. The day I interviewed him, Leo had a couple of breakthroughs. He emailed his parents during the school day to tell them the first piece of good news they'd had from him.
Until that day, the emails had mostly been three desperate words. I feel awful. Without even a period at the end to make the feeling finite was an endless awful. But on this Thursday, he wrote to tell them the mashed potatoes they serve in the cafeteria were great, followed by four exclamation points. Second, and this was the big news, he asked another kid if he wanted to come over. Leo told me he'd thought about it first for a few days, then finally emailed the boy, whose name is Devon, another seventh grader.
But now Leo didn't want to call Devon's house to finalize a plan. He dreaded the awkwardness of the phone. So his dad called Deon's parents, introduced himself as Leo's father. dad. He goes to school with your son, Evan. And we were uh Devon, I'm so sorry, Devon. I'm getting the evil look from my son. I apologize, but we're hoping Devon can come over on Sunday. Thanks. I panicked. You fool. How'd that go? Not well. My son Freddy. I had thought Leo might be upset about it, maybe get sulky.
But here he was cracking up, joking with his dad. It was such a relief to hear him laugh after he'd been so solemn in our interview, and I thought, "This is all going to be okay. He's going to snap out of it. He's almost there. An afternoon with Devon is going to do the trick." Then Sunday came. Okay, now I have three health again. I could tell you you could tell your wolf to attack. Okay, I'm going to tell my wolf to attack. Then Leo taught Devon how to play Dungeons and Dragons.
And the wolf lands on its feet. Yay! Go Wolfie! Go Wolfie! Go Wolfie! I am so weird. On the drive home, Leo and Devon talk non-stop. A gentle ratat oneupmanship emanating from deep inside a computer game. I am an I am a blood elf warlock. Warlocks are fun. Can you summon your imp yet? Uh, yeah. You start with an imp. Oh, right. I like um I had a goblin shaman. I'm a night elf druid and I can turn into a cat at level eight which is nice and at level 12 you get a bear.
Yeah. And then by the time they dropped Devon off they were giggling. Yeah. You start our cat responds to whatever you call. We said his name is Pippen. We can call him football. You can call him football. Here football. Thanks for coming over. Thanks. Thank you for inviting me. See you tomorrow. See you. So, a perfect day, right? Leo's parents were relieved, hopeful, but no. It's Wednesday. You had your friend over on Sunday. How'd it go? Went okay. Yeah, it went okay. Has it changed anything about um being here?
A little bit. I don't think very much, but a little bit. Yeah. What's changed? What's the little bit? Then I know someone at school. It helps. Not all not all that much, but sort of. Yeah. And this is when I realized I'd underestimated the depth of Leo's gloom. That he greets every morning of every school day with dread. And not because he's being bullied or anyone's being mean to him. I feel sick because um I know that I have the whole day ahead of me and then I have the next day and the next day ahead of me.
Does it pass once you get to school? No, not really. It usually um increases to a climax around lunchtime and then I actually I've been throwing up recently and then it just stays that level of sickness until I get home. You're kidding me. You're throwing up at school. Yeah. Oh, that's awful. In the bathroom or where? Yeah, in the bathroom. Usually at lunch I feel really bad and I go to the bathroom and I throw up. Has that happened this week? Today it did. Do you tell your parents like, "I don't want to go.
I don't want to go." Or do you just, you know, you have to, so you don't say anything? Uh, no. I throw a screaming fit. Every morning? Yeah, pretty much. I didn't today. What was different about this morning? How come you didn't today? I felt resigned. I knew that I would have to go anyways, so I gave up. Here's the curse of being almost 13. Old enough to understand his life will supposedly get better with time, but not old enough to really believe he's going to feel any differently than he does right this minute.
Since making friends with Devon, Leo is one step toward being the kid he wants to be. Someone with pals, someone who's comfortable again. But he says right now he's just worried he's going to be throwing up all year. Sarah Kanig, in the 15 years since we first broadcast this story, Leo has transitioned. She now lives in New York City and is pursuing a career in the arts. She says she's not happy all the time, but things are better than they were. Sarah Kanig is now the host of Serial.
She's working on a brand new show that I heard a draft version of. I have to say it's incredible. It is a total pleasure. It's going to be out very soon this fall. X grande with sugar. So I've been talking to educators and one who had taught for years in high school and then moved to middle school told me that the key difference between teaching in the two environments was that in middle school you have to be sympathetic to and patient with all of the emotional drama.
You have to deal with that directly if you want the classroom to work. Which brings me to this next story of a student who was doing badly in a middle school in Newark, New Jersey. He was a mess. He would come in, his his uniform would be dirty. He hadn't showered. He hadn't had breakfast. His book bag most likely had a hole in it and all of his pens and pencils had fallen out. His homework wasn't done. Like, and and so, of course, he'd come in and he'd be angry.
This is Shannon Grande, who teaches at Rise Academy Middle School, which is a public school, 91% black and Latino and eligible for free lunches, one of the KIP charter schools, hence the uniforms. I heard about this story from Elizabeth Green who has been reporting on this school for a journalism outfit called Gotham Schools. Anyway, this teacher, Sharon Grande, says that this seventh grader would come in angry all the time. And um and usually someone would say something little to him like, you know, your shirt's not tucked in or I know the kid would.
Yeah. Cuz they, you know, they do that. They like, you know, just kind of pick at each other and it would set him off. And then he would just be very loud and just be like, "Oh, why do you always have to say this to me?" and slam his stuff down. I hate this place. And he just go into like these very general rants. And you know, usually that's an indicator to us like when they use those very general statements that they're not processing through their emotions that that they're feeling overwhelmed.
So this kid was in an unfortunate spiral. He felt isolated from the other kids just inherently because his home situation was so bad. And then he would get angry with the other kids which then made them mad and made him more isolated. And he got worse and worse. Threw some stuff across a room and it hit a teacher. I mean, there were points where he would come in and he would refuse to do anything all day long. And he just he would cry. He would break out and cry in the middle of class.
You didn't even know why. You couldn't explain why. One big problem for him, one reason that he was ostracized, he didn't wash. Kids would whisper about it and when he would get mad and then arguments would escalate. That is where it would go. You're dirty. You smell. The kids would say it right to his face. Over time, the staff found all kinds of ways to address this. They got him clean clothes and a place to clean up before school. But the bigger problem, and that's the problem of his isolation and his anger.
Miss Grande says it was not clear how to deal with that. They would try things, but nothing was working. And then finally one day in history class during uh group work he was trash talking and one of the best girls in the class one of Miss Grande's best students ended up in an argument with them saying terrible things and m like really you two when I pulled I pulled the girl and she was like well he he brings it on you know he gets angry and then what am I supposed to say?
I was like, "Well, you could not say that, you know." And um that being Betty's dirty and he smells. And she's like, "Well, he does." And I said, "Um I was like, I think this is a bigger conversation." So Miss Grande took this girl and the three other girls who had been doing group work with this boy. And she took those girls into the teachers room and all four of these girls were academically strong and all of them had shown good leadership qualities in the school in the past.
And she talked to them. You know, I had explained to them that he he struggles just to get here every day. That I was like, you know, you wake up in the morning and you've got somebody that's getting you out of the door, giving you breakfast, making sure your clothes are clean, making sure you get here on time. He doesn't have that. Like, he has nobody doing that for him. And at that time, you know, I knew that the power had been off at his house that the week before the water was shut off, that they had had um part of their roof cave in.
Um he has an elderly grandmother that he tries to take care of and she had been getting up in the middle of the night and wandering and he would hear her and get up and carry her back upstairs. What was the reaction? Empathy. And she's like, "I didn't know that." You know, and the other girls there were, you know, talking about that. And I was like, you know, I'm telling you something that I normally wouldn't tell another student this, you know, this is something very private, but I'm trusting that you're mature enough to handle this.
And I was like, so, you know, you're kind of breaking him down when you're doing these things. And she's like, well, can we talk to him? I was a little nervous. You know, obviously, I was really worried about it. I was like, what am I doing here? this could be really dangerous and backfire on me terribly. Um, they started to talk and they're like, you know, when you get angry, I um, you know, we we get angry back. What do you expect us to say? It really was just a couple minutes before the kids told Miss Grande, "We can take it from here." And she left them to talk.
Afterwards, the boy told Miss Grande that it felt good. It felt good that these girls knew that he was trying to deal with his anger. And since this conversation over time, the entire class has entered this discussion with this kid. And when this kid has an outburst, they will all talk openly about his anger. Like the students say, well, you've told us you're working on this. What are you going to do differently now? And then he'd try to explain, well, you know, I'm trying to take deep breaths.
You know, I'm trying to journal when I'm getting angry. I'm trying to do, you know, and he'd come up with whatever solutions he's trying to do. Um, but a lot of times even it wasn't about the solution. The peer pressure itself and the the feeling like, you know, he'd come in and, you know, he's making these general statements like everybody's against me. And then he's starting to feel like, okay, maybe everybody isn't against me. You know, maybe they are just frustrated with this behavior that I'm doing that I could be doing better.
And so that we started to see that impact of peer pressure. It's like you took the entire machinery of middle school dynamics and you're harnessing it to help this kid. Exactly. Harness the fact that they'll listen to peers. Exactly. And we know they do. This is what the research shows that in middle school you listen to peers more than you listen to anybody else. And that is working with this kid. The other day this kid got a detention for missing part of his uniform. and he started on a rant in class about how they're all against him and all the time they're on his back and everybody's against him and it was the end of the world and Miss Grande finally asked him who's they who's everybody and he started smiling and she asked him what's he really upset about and like in the past he could untangle it he could tell her pressure.
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