Massive Election Fraud Raid In GA. With DNI Gabbard Does This Signal Maduro Had A Part?

Key Takeaway

Understanding structural forces in economics and politics dramatically improves decision-making and wealth creation. The key is focusing obsessively on cause and effect rather than narratives. Build your own worldview based on observable mechanisms, not simplified team-based thinking. Most people hunger for simplified narratives, but those who invest time understanding how systems actually work can eject from manipulation and achieve dramatically better outcomes in their lives.

Episode Overview

This episode covers the FBI raid on Fulton County's election hub in Georgia, examining allegations of 2020 election interference. The hosts discuss media narrative control, the presence of DNI Tulsi Gabbard at the raid, and broader themes about how elite groups control society through understanding structural forces in economics and politics. They also touch on Don Lemon's arrest, the importance of First Amendment protections, and how policies can be weaponized against political opponents. The conversation emphasizes thinking independently about cause and effect rather than accepting simplified partisan narratives.

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Transcript of Massive Election Fraud Raid In GA. With DNI Gabbard Does This Signal Maduro Had A Part? from Impact Theory. Auto-generated from episode audio; may contain minor errors.

What is up everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Tom Billy Show live. We are locked and loaded today. The FBI raided the Fulton County election hub in Union City. Union City. Union City. People are not happy about it. This is tied to the election fraud. Reactions have been extreme. We're going to be going into that. The Fed has decided to hold rates very high. They are, in my opinion, pretending that they haven't already lost control of the economy. Uh, but they have. And we're going to cover the dramatic cause and effect of the fiscal dominance that we're all living in right now.

Trump has announced his very surprising pick for the next Fed chair. And the market reacted hard. We'll go through that. Tom H. Homeman is bringing a steady hand to Minnesota. He certainly has admitted that ICE had gotten out of control and that changes needed to be made. So, we'll see if the continued cooperation actually plays out. Well, speaking of cooperation, hundreds of thousands of Iranians are reportedly marching in the streets as a massive buildup of US troops in the region continues. Certainly seems like something is about to pop off.

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Much love to you guys. Uh love you guys. Thank you for your patience. We appreciate it. It makes the dollars go into the bank account. All right. Um we got to talk about Fulton County. For those that don't know, that's where Georgia was. It's a key swing state. I said that's where Georgia is. That's where Atlanta is. It's a key swing state. It was one of the deciding votes in 2020. Um, yeah, it's looking real shady, Tom. This is the center of all the the hubbablaloo hubbaloo hubbaloo hubbaloo.

Uh, that's the most Tacoma thing I've ever said in my life. But there it is. The all the drama surrounding the 2020 election. Trump obviously just continuing to insist that everything was fraudulent. The election was stolen and because as Drew was saying, this is such a uh important swing state, I think this was the place where he was saying, "Go find me whatever how many other thousands of votes uh that became very controversial." And on January 28th, in a very controversial move, the FBI executed a search warrant at the Fulton County Election Hub and Operation Center in Union City, Georgia, seizing physical ballots and all kinds of other records related to the 2020 presidential election.

The move is obviously tied to ongoing investigations into Trump's claims that the election was stolen. Now, despite Trump's claims, to be clear, so far, no widespread fraud has been substantiated in the courts or via audits, but the plot certainly thickens with this move because it would require a judge to find probable cause that something is going on. So, theoretically, this stuff is not done willy-nilly, that they are presenting evidence as to why they think that this would be worthwhile, and they got a judge to say, "Yes, indeed, there is enough probable cause there for you guys to go in." Now, needless to say, the left and the right are locked in a battle to control how all of us see this move.

The right sees it as finally getting to the truth, and the left sees it as a witch hunt. Now, the crazy thing from where I'm sitting is that watching the left right now in real time, they are attempting to plant seeds of doubt in the public's mind about Trump's admin uh gearing up effectively to tamper with the documents. We're going to show you clips. You can hear for yourself. Their argument centers around the president the presence of DNI Tulsi Gabbard. All right, let's watch the clip.

Her presence at the raid uh being discussed on MS. Now, I thought this is pretty wild. wild. wild. Yes. And based on that photo, at one point she was in a truck with box loads of what are apparently ballots, which means if she was alone, she is going to need to be on the chain of custody for those ballots and explain to defense council why she was with them and what she was doing. And if there is a special agent in there with her, that special agent is going to be on the chain of custody and is probably going to get asked by defense council why on earth somebody was allowed to be with that evidence who is not a member of the FBI nor on the chain of custody.

So Michael, let me interrupt you for just a second and I'll ask you to continue, but we just literally got some information about why Tulsi Gabbard was there. This is per a Trump administration official. Director Gabard has a pivotal role in election security and protecting the integrity of our elections against interference, including operations targeting voting systems, databases, and election infrastructure. She has and will continue to take action on President Trump's directive to secure our elections and work with our inter agency partners to do so. What do you make of that explanation?

Um, Um, it doesn't pass the laugh test for anybody who's actually worked in this world. world. world. It doesn't pass the laugh test for anybody that worked in this world. You want to play this out like this? This is So, before you hit play, um, obviously they're not going to just come out and say, "We suspect that she's tampering with evidence." But if this is something I will often say to people on camera, off camera, is people say words for a reason. They are trying to convince you of something.

So, these guys are saying a whole lot of words. They are trying to convince you of something. I would say the very thing they're trying to convince you of is that it's suspicious that she's there. Like, they're not debating like, "Oh, this is a waste of taxpayer dollars. Like, she should be back doing something else." They're saying it's suspicious. Chain of custody. Why is she alone with the data? It's like they're planting seeds so that if something comes out of it, then the next step is well, but the thing that came out of it is corrupt.

They've obviously gone in and played with the data. So, this is not somebody who's like, I really want to know what happened. This is a group of people that have a predetermined outcome that they want to make sure that we get to, and they will use narrative control to at a minimum get people to believe that this is where we're at, even if the data like the hard information leads us somewhere else. So, anyway, let him finish his thought. thought. thought. Um, and there's a couple reasons for that.

First of all, this was collection of evidence. of evidence. of evidence. There is nothing there that cannot be reported to called Tulsi Gabbard once they have processed it, analyzed it and made and made and made and so if that's true, what's the problem? You know, she's going to get all the data data data site. Again, it is unheard of for non-law enforcement personnel to take place in the execution of a search warrant. warrant. warrant. But why is it a problem? Secondly, this is a criminal investigation.

It is looking at past conduct. Even if we believed that Tulsi Gabbard should be involved in law enforcement actions related to she is the director of national intelligence. It's not like she like if Bobby Kennedy were there or something and you're like wait why is he there? Why is the health dude? Yeah. Like that would be like okay like that one's weird. But she we have entrusted her as a nation with the most sensitive information that we have. What are the global threats around the world?

What are the threats we face internally? And so I get that she's not a member of the FBI, but I if we understand that she is the hub of the most sensitive information that we have coming through the country that she has been talking for ages about, look, Obama has been running like the Russia hoax and they tried to subvert um Trump's presidency, all of that. and this is tied to that. Like this is not surprising at all. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Now, you may hate it, you may disagree.

Fair enough. But, um, it's just the way that they are laying this out is strange. All right, let me let me give you the the facts here. So, Democratic lawmakers, including Senator uh Senators John Oaf and Mark Warner and Representative Jim Heims, quickly expressed concern, describing Tulsi's presence as quote unquote bizarre and alarming and potentially indicative of the intelligence community straying into domestic political matters. Again, if they were arguing this from a financial standpoint, I'd be like, okay, maybe. Uh but they argue instead that DNI's focus should remain only on foreign threats, not hands-on involvement in FBI raids, on US election facilities.

And they have requested briefings to explain her role. So these are not people that are worried about getting to the bottom of whether our elections have integrity or not. These are people that have a pre-drawn conclusion and they don't want anybody that could be messing that up. Now, as we heard in the clip, the Trump administration has defended Gabbard's involvement. Now, in regards to whether it's actually weird that she's there, it is. It's certainly unusual for a DNI to be physically present at an FBI evidence seizure as the roles traditionally strategic and logistical rather than operational.

However, if there's classified intelligence suggesting foreign actors, for instance, targeted Georgia's 2020 systems or one of the other things that she's been working on, like I said, with Obama, it's pretty easy to justify her presence as legitimate oversight. The real question for my money is unless you're concerned about evidence being tampered with, which opens up a whole set of can of worms, why do you care who's present at the raid? Now, I understand Billy Bob from off the street getting to sit in the back with the documents by himself.

That would be wacky. But this is the director of national intelligence. Everyone should want free and fair elections. If Trump is wrong, that will surface. Trump will have egg on his face and we can all finally move on. And if he's right, don't people want to know that our elections are being tampered with? I I really cannot wrap my head around the fact that people don't want to know like what's really happening. I I am literally up in arms about the fact that California has made it il illegal to ask for ID at a voting place.

That is the craziest [ __ ] I've ever heard in my life. That is like uh a kid, a three-year-old telling their parent, "I'm not doing anything wrong." And they've got like chocolate all over their face. I did not eat a cookie, Mom. But they're just literal whole face is smeared with chocolate. It's uh there was another one, the ice cannon force around uh pulling places. It's like, "What what what are we doing?" like at some point the way that you're behaving makes it obvious to me that the very thing you're trying to do is make sure that illegal immigrants can vote.

So, I'm not saying that's what happened in 2020. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I'm just saying the energy from the Democrats around voting integrity is so weird that every alarm bell I have goes off. And if I'm trying to do theory of mind and I put myself in their shoes, I'm like, what would they have to be protecting? So, option one, I so distrust the Trump administration that I really do believe that they're in the back of the van stuffing ballots or planting the fraud or whatever.

Okay? But if that's the case, her being at the raid is not your problem. Your problem is just say nakedly, these guys cannot be trusted. They're completely corrupt. They are going to fake all of this. And um no matter what's actually in those boxes, they're just going to fake it. Okay. Well, they're obviously not going to do that there on the scene. That would be the weirdest place with the most cameras everywhere. You do that under the cover of darkness in a room that nobody knows you're in.

So, but fine, if that's your hypothesis, put that forward. Call it out. But instead, it's like you're planting seeds right now. This is narrative control. This is James Burnham all day. This is people will do whatever they need to do to um alter the frame of reference of the people looking at the problem so they can maintain power and this is so gross and so corrupt and just like oh god I really hate it. Um Fton County Chairman Rob Pittz literally came out and said that um he was at the election warehouse.

He now says that he no longer is feels safe and secure. He no longer thinks the ballots are safe and secure because they are now out of their control. Here we go. At least it ain't we don't know where they're being taken. We don't know what's going to happen to them. So we can no longer and I can no longer as chair of this board satisfy not only the citizens of Atlanta but the citizens of the world that those ballots are still secure. So that is a major concern that I have.

Well, welcome to the game of politics. So, uh, yeah, when you're in a populist moment and everybody's on a team and everybody suspects the other side and nobody believes anything is as it is or should be or as it's represented, uh, you get into these death spirals of everybody distrusts everybody else. And um, yeah, it's it is utterly fascinating. We long to put things in a box and once you go the other side's the enemy. Cool. Nice box. Um, enemies lie, cheese, steel. Cool. nice box.

So now it's like, oh, they're Republican. Oh, enemy, liars, cheaters. Um, and I want to be very clear, both sides do this. It It is It is a part of the way that the human mind works. But nonetheless, like watching it play out is so obnoxious. Yeah, I'm going to be honest. The Democrats, they got to they got to eat this one. So y'all got to just say yes, we'll add voter ID and just stand on it. And I know that Mammy in Alabama who walks everywhere and hasn't driven since 1913 might not be able to vote no more.

And I'm sorry my you can't vote no more. But Democrats, I'm going to tell y'all with my whole chest. The party that says we're not Nazis is shooting people in the street and they're defending that. The party that's saying we're not letting illegal immigrants vote are now saying what ballots? What are you talking about? No, we're cool. Just take I'm telling you, you'll be okay. you'll you'll lose a couple mammies and they'll be fine. But I think Democrats need to change their tone. Say we're 100% with voter election.

We're 100% with voter ID. We're okay with it. I wouldn't say they're bending the knee. I want to say Trump gets that win. But let them feel good about this next election. So that way you have nothing else that you can then bulletproof. But it's I just think it's hilarious right now that the one party that says we're we're doing everything by the book is now hiding up ballots. There's a bunch of fraud. There's a bunch of things kind of in their back pocket. And then the other team that's saying, "No, we're we're not Nazis.

We're just trying to make the world a better place." Is out here roughing up and shooting Americans. So, it's everybody's kind of looking in the face and becoming the thing that they judge. And I think right now, this is their opportunity to say, "Hey, you guys are auditing the 2020 ballots. Okay, cool. Back then, we felt you saw some anomalies. Cool." Although, I did watch the RIP this weekend and you're supposed to count the drug money on site. So, if I go to a stash house and it's $20 million, it's not throw everything in the bag and then we'll go back to the office and then count it.

It's usually, okay, shut this whole thing down. I am the federal government. Nobody comes in and out. Let's lay these ballots out and let's audit it right here, right now. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. That should have been kind of the thing in my perspective, but Well, do we know that they didn't do that? that? that? They didn't cuz they loaded them up in that truck. that truck. that truck. So, they didn't take an audit of the stuff. stuff. stuff. They did. They know just what they got.

So, that's going to be like and that's why everybody's kind of getting in front of it. Got it. Got it. Got it. But the big thing though, and this is what I really want to talk about, is this the Maduro uh pardon? Like there's been some rumors that the reason that we took Maduro and we've been light on him is because he says he has inside information about the election interference and that's why Da Gabbert is there to maybe connect those dots that are maybe bigger than just you know somebody's somebody's somebody's Yeah, this is the wild thing.

I'm glad you brought that up is the level of international interference that people are hypothesizing is very different than the likely international interference that's actually happening. Now, everything I'm about to say is all rumor and all conjecture, but I remember when election night happened, Elon Musk was at a party and he left the party early because he said, "I already know that Trump is going to win." Like, whatever their reporting is so delayed compared to the data that he had. Now, nobody knew what he meant by that.

A lot of people thought that he was involved in election interference. The rumors that have come out since, and I maybe they've been verified, I don't know, but I'll report them as rumors because that's what they are in my mind. But um it's my understanding that what he did do was he knew where the uh vote manipulation was coming from into I believe the electronic machines and they were able to shut those down like either a DOS attack or I'm sure something far more sophisticated. But they were able to stop that.

And so once he knew he was able to stop the fake votes from coming in then he was like well Trump's guaranteed to win now because it's only going to be real votes. Then you start getting all the rumors. Again, rumors don't know that this is going to end up being true. But to your point about Maduro, there were claims from the Maduro regime that they knew or were involved in the manipulation. Now, the manipulation is almost certainly happening at the level of technology. So, um, that if all of that ends up being true, that Elon did in fact identify where the fake votes were coming from, if Venezuela was involved and Maduro is prepared to rat, then we may actually begin to peel a couple layers back and see that the um the interference, the manipulation is far more high level than certainly I thought and I think a lot of people thought.

A lot of people thought it was more just like Russia's doing this thing where it may be a far more coordinated effort and then it becomes a question of I guarantee if you've got like Russia and Venezuela coordinating you're going to find an NGO connection in here somewhere because they're either they have a tremendous financial incentive just from a market level to see that happen in America or more plausibly they're also getting immediate upfront payments and the this is you can uh just assume that my brain has been altered by Mike Benz.

um that the NGO complex has so much CIA infiltration in terms of actual people involved in NOS's uh down to the strategies that they deploy and so that they would turn that on America as we get into this highly divisive time where everybody's on a team, each team hates each other. Um you can see how it'd be like, "Oh yeah, we know that these tactics work. will use it to not in their minds undermine America, but to undermine the other side so that the rightful team uh can get into position.

And so I don't care who ends up being found out in that. Uh I want to know if we've got people in the government doing that, we need to know like aggressively aggressively. Um so anybody that has a favorite candidate or whatever and doesn't want that to come to light, they can [ __ ] right off like that. That's one of those things where um people do not have a sufficient level of hatred for the fact that we are controlled from the top down by and I I can go into this if it's probably not the right time, but we're controlled from the top down by a group of elites.

It's it is a knowable mechanism by which that happens. Um because they're honestly they're operating at a different level of way to interface with society. And so, you know, most of the time we'll say, you know, most Americans just they want to get along. They want to raise their kids. They want to fall in love. Like, they want to progress in their life. And that is true. But there's a group of people that understand the mechanisms by which humans interact with each other. And they're able to step outside of the antill of all of us going about our daily lives.

And the social media age, while it creates a lot of noise, it also creates a ton of visibility into how those mechanisms actually work. And there's a really really great book by um by um by um Neil Ferguson that gets at the the almost benality of the way that this works. It's about the Rothschilds. And when you see how they organized banking, one of the rules that the father understood was he said, "You all have to befriend politicians." And he was like, "That's just how you're going to get all of this done." And so it's like you begin to understand that society operates on these layers.

Most people think about their boss, like my boss is all this influence on my life. Yes. in like the local, but as you start backing up and think about something like the Federal Reserve, the Federal Reserve controls so much more of how the planet operates that your boss is stuck inside of that system. And so once you realize, oh, I have to get outside of the way that I think about the world regionally and I have to think, okay, what are the forces that govern how economics works to make it very simple?

Because economics ultimately controls everything else. And so that's where it's like, okay, you don't hate that enough. You're not mad about that enough, and you certainly don't understand it enough. And so once you begin to understand that the it the wrong way to think about that is the wolves howling and like, oh, it's this dark conspiracy and it's um cinematic and it's eyes wide shut. The right way to think about it is there's just a set of people that interface with the world at structural influences.

Money is the easiest one to talk about, so we'll stick there. Politics is another one. Mhm. Uh and so when you actually understand how money works, if you understand money and you're in those rooms and you've got all those connections, then all of a sudden, man, it's like there might be 150 people, full stop, total out of the 8 billion, might be 150 people that control economic policy globally. Imagine, you know, all 150. Gez. So, it's like now all this, it's not like they're all going to agree, but it's like you're in the room, you know the people, and you know the mechanisms by which this stuff works.

And so, that's where I'm like, we don't hate that enough. We don't demand enough accountability at that level. This is why I'm so freaked out by the W is it's like that's just them, that whole group of people getting together, dictating policy, and feeling so right. They just put that [ __ ] out in the open and saying it out loud. Yeah. Like, thank God, right? But still, it's like the fact that they openly go, "The world is a controllable thing. We're going to control it. We're going to migrate it in this direction." And then there's like almost a helplessness to everybody else who really is just dealing with their life locally.

life locally. life locally. Money and politics. That's the first thing. Until that like unwinds, we're never going to have clear-cut politicians, clear-cut policies, clearcut nothing. That's very true. And I wonder though, so given the ironclad law of oligarch oligarchy, which says, and I think is accurate, no matter what, you will always have a small group of elites who run the thing. The world, yes. Uh your country, yes. Banking, yes. Your household, yes. There's always going to be in whatever group, there's going to be a small group of people that lead and pull everybody along.

So it's like, okay, in a world where everybody's got a camera all the time, but most people are too distracted. And so they don't have the ability to completely eject out of the narrative because the narrative is um the simplification of a wildly complicated world. So it's like just give me the simplified version and then I'll know how to think through everything. So just tell me how do Democrats think again? How do Republicans think again? Cool. Then I just that's how I think. And so now I don't have to think through all of that.

I've got my team. I've got my marching orders and I'm good to go. And so if the people at the top know that that's true and they know that social media is going to give you 10,000 narratives, so everybody's really going to hunger for just like simplify mind, but now there's a whole bunch of variance. It's like we become ironically easier to control. But I think that there is an opportunity in all of that for people to if they're willing to spend the time to build their own worldview based on cause and effect.

you can start to eject out of this. And um if I can I I know that the way that people see me is so inaccurate that they're not going to understand the following statement. Um because I've started learning about the um the physics like forces that influence economics. economics. economics. my rate of return from when I first got wealthy to now is dramatic. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Because I have learned, oh, there's structural forces here. You can't know the outcomes and there's always risk. And one of the things that I spend the most time for is just going I I can't see the future, so I need to like spread my risk out.

But it is it's wild to think that simply thinking obsessively about cause and effect structural forces that it's had this transformative impact on my ability to increase my wealth. Just really really trying to get people to focus on that because it will have dramatic impacts on your on the um tangible things in your life. Well, somebody else learned about cause and effect this weekend. Don Lemon because now he's in jail. He was taken into federal custody last night in Los Angeles while he was covering the Grammy Awards.

That would be ironic if they arrested him while he was like in the suit. Um, this is interesting. We're going to get into the who's who and should should have, could have, would and things like that. But specifically for Don, I'm not a fan of Don. I'm not team Don. Don is press though. And typically press is exempt from the same type of rules. If there's a protest happening downtown, press is covering on the side, you can arrest all the protesters, but you wouldn't then arrest the press on on top of that.

It seems like those laws, those worlds are now starting to become blurred. Do you think that this is a violation of the first amendment or is it one of those things that he effed around and found out? To me, this is a question about what the laws are around private property. So, you've got a church. I I will say whatever the law is, people need to understand if you're protesting something, you absolutely have a right to protest, but there are limits to where, when, how you can do it.

And so I not knowing the laws about whether they can go into a church. And I hear that there's a law, the face law or something like that, like that, like that, uh, that was originally designed, I think, stop the KKK from doing something. I I definitely do not have the details here. We'd have to look it up. But so if there's a law in the books that says you cannot go into a church and do all that stuff, then yes, it becomes a question of did he know that this was about to happen and was he actively involved in it versus simply documenting it.

Um, and so if he violated the law and this is a policy that applies to everybody ever since that law was passed, then whatever he [ __ ] around and found out. Mhm. Um, however, the First Amendment is the most important thing that makes up America and people ignore the First Amendment at their peril. So, I would say if this is a tie, do we want the tie to go to the runner or do we want the tie to go to the government? I would say you want the tie to go to the runner.

like I would rather somebody get away with because as far as I know they um they were not violent inside of the church. Now it's my understanding that they block stairways and things like that and so the people that did that that were um basically separating parents from their children which is the thing that I said cool arrest those guys. But if Don Lemon did not go block a staircase, then just like my take would be on January 6th that if you were violent, lock him up.

If you were not violent, then what the [ __ ] are we even talking about? talking about? talking about? So, um, now again, same thing. If if there is a law that says you may not enter the capital building unlawfully or whatever and it meets the definition of unlawful, then yes, you charge them with whatever that is, trespassing, whatever. You certainly do not, in my opinion, ramp that up to insurrection or whatever. Just like I do not want to see people in Minnesota met with insurrection. I want to take each one of these things individually.

If you use your gun inappropriately, problem. Uh if you are violent towards officers, problem. But if you are simply there yelling, screaming, but it meets all the criteria for a protest, great. No problem. I don't think there should be some blanket edict. So, that's how I feel about without knowing all the details about the church thing that Don Lemon was involved in. Um, I would much rather see there be leniency for anybody that's on the bubble than to say no, lump them in because it really, this is emotion on my part.

It feels like people that lean right just hate Don Lemon and so they want to see bad things happen to Don Lemon. I fall in the camp of these are all policies and the people that hate me are one day going to leverage these policies and so I don't want those policies leveraged against me when I'm the one who's like no no no we really need to make noise about this thing that I care about that I think is a big enough deal to go and do this thing and so um I I just feel like people are blind to that with all the calls for arrest and lock them up and all that [ __ ] so I don't um share that read on society I think think at the level of policy policy policy yeah I think that's a great point Um cuz I think on the wider scheme of things, talking with just any everything that's going on with Minnesota, people are saying this person did a thing.

They deserve what they got. And I'm talking both about Alex Petti and uh Alex Prey pretty and Don Lemon as well where it's like I hate Don Lemon. He should be in jail where it's like, okay, you don't like Don Lemon, that's cool, whatever, like that. But okay, now let's say Nick Fuentes was outside of a protest in the same situation they arrested him. Then you're going to be crying and call it. You know what I mean? So, it's like don't say you like the policy when it's somebody that you hate because when it's somebody you love, that policy is still intact.

That policy is still valid. They can still do this. If it was Alex Jones in that church, would you guys be feeling the same way that you feel now? And if the answer is maybe no, a little bit different, then you don't like the policy, you just don't like the person. And those things, two things are different. And then even with this uh new release of the video with Freddy like kicking out the tail lights and stuff like that, that was a dirt bag move. You He's a dirt bag.

Yes, you shouldn't be doing that. That's foul. You spit on people. That's like a dealbreaker. If you ever spit on me, it's like, "Don't spit on me and don't hang up on me." Like, those are the two things. Oh, damn. If you hang up on me, I'm never calling you back. I will never call you. Like, it's so disrespectful. But it's one of those things. It's one of those things that like if you hang up on me, that doesn't mean like, "Yes, now you deserve to die." Like, I do you know what I mean?

So, I feel like you can still be a bad, you can still be a POS. I can still hate you, but your civil liberties don't get to get to be removed. get to don't get to get to be removed. Like, I hate Don Lemon, but he still I'm not going to say Don Lemon is not allowed a First Amendment right. I don't think Alex Pretty should have been like stomping on the car, but I still don't think he should have like got shot 10 times, right?

times, right? times, right? You know what I mean? And I just think this scale of like, I don't like this person, so yes, keep being mean to them. Keep doing it. And then Keep doing it. And then you don't realize to your point in four years, 8 years, 12 years, whenever we flip the board, everything you hate about this one person is going to be due to somebody that you love. And how you how are you going to feel about it in that moment? that moment?

that moment? Yeah. Speaking of policy, real quick, Marushia Dark brought up the KKK Act, which is from 1871, which means you can't organize to violate people's civil rights, including the right to worship. So, that's probably what they're arresting. arresting. arresting. Yeah. I mean, listen, that encapsulation sounds pretty damning for what they were doing. Now, they're going to say, "No, no, no. It wasn't about interrupting their right to worship. This was about a guy that was all about ICE. This is about finding a public figure, somebody who's prominent and you know really making noise around that.

Um, and the fact that it interrupted worship is incidental. And so that'll the legal argument will go something like that. Uh, but if the policy says you can't interrupt worship as one of the things and well, [ __ ] around and find out. So, uh, yeah, but again, think of this stuff at the level of policy regardless of whether you hate that person or not. Like Don Lemon, it just makes my skin crawl. There is something about the way that he interprets the world that the way that he talks like it just winds me up.

He does not seem like somebody who's gracious or wants to understand people. Uh so but whatever. But at the same time, I just go Don Lemon is an avatar for me. So there are people that feel about me the way that I feel about Don Lemon. So now it's like, uhoh, if that policy is policy is policy is again, if he violated the law just as if I violated the law, then I should get punished for doing so and he should get punished for doing so.

But when it comes to First Amendment, I would say you you want to air on the side of letting people go a little farther than you're comfortable with. Um because it will come back around to you. Yeah. Um I was looking for this clip. I cannot find it. Um Tom Holman um spoke yesterday in Minneapolis and I've never felt like I needed an adult in the room more than I did listening to him speak. He was metered. He was firm. He wasn't part of the the the He needed uh he was the adult in the room.

room. room. Yeah. Yes. He like I feel I feel like we finally got the adult in the room like like he was like, "Yeah, what do you mean? We're definitely going to deport people. I'm not going to tell you legal they can stay here." No, absolutely we should do that. Um but I also know that if I work with the jails, I don't need 15 officers outside in the middle street either. I could have one officer going right to a jail. So, it was just like, okay, I can turn down the rhetoric and still do my job.

I don't need all this noise. Um, and he held some of the like politicians accountable. But what do you think about Homeman speech? Homeman speech? Homeman speech? I I loved it. I felt exactly the same. He What's interesting is to compare him to Bo. to Bo. to Bo. Bo has that like I hate it when people do this. I mean this literally in terms of affectation. He has that Hitilarian quality of riing people up from an emotional standpoint. Whose [ __ ] city is this, right? Like I don't know if this might be the one.

Like if just play this real fast, you you will see all the way to the top. Everybody [ __ ] gets it if they touch you. You hear what I'm saying? Less lethals. Less lethals. Less lethals. Uh we're going to look at shipping tractor trailer loads of that [ __ ] in here. So you catch what I'm It's all about us now. It ain't about them. Professional, legal, ethical, moral. You know what we're talking about. Legal, ethical, moral. You're on camera. But other than that, this is what we do.

City is City is City is we need that on camera. [ __ ] city. [ __ ] city. [ __ ] city. That That's the whole thing. Who is our [ __ ] city? So, I mean, listen, he doesn't have Hitler's charm. As weird of a sentence as that is to say. Uh, but he is he's got that same attitude. I want to rile you up emotionally. I want to send you in. He's like a football coach. It's like, we're going to [ __ ] kill these guys. Like, let's go. Like, don't violate the rules.

No yellow flags, but like if you could [ __ ] grab their nuts when they're on the bottom of the pile, nobody sees it. Like that's the vibe that I get here. Speaking of which, I know former NFL players, can you believe when they're piled up like that, guys will try to jam their finger in the other guy's ass for real? Like when I say, "Okay, these are people that played in the NFL at the highest level to this story." No, no, they try stupid something. They try to like do the most underhanded [ __ ] to each other when they're in those [ __ ] dog piles.

Oh. Oh. Oh. When they're on top of tackling, like [ __ ] get that guy. They're like, you know, saying [ __ ] to the running back or whatever, like trying to make him never want to carry the ball again. And I was like, god damn. So anyway, this guy gives me those vibes. So H Homeman is like the exact opposite of that. Homeman has enough politician in him, but also feels like the kind of guy that's like, I just want to be left alone to do my job. like doesn't have aspirations to become the president or whatever.

So, he's got the ability. ability. ability. He's a steady hand. He's not easy to sway. He's got a sense of this is what we're doing and it's we're doing this because it's the right thing to do and understands why he does what he does and is just going to push forward. Now, obviously, if you disagree with his politics, I don't expect him to be a popular figure, but he's not going to be divisive the way the Bovino who's like all id, all emotion, rile people up, go out there, get them.

This is our city. [ __ ] those guys. Like, that's such a different energy than somebody who comes in and is like, listen, we're Americans. We have a job to protect the citizens of this country. This is a moral obligation, but illegal immigrants are human and they need to be treated humanely. Now, he, as far as I know, he didn't say those things, but I'm just saying like that kind of energy is very different than this is our [ __ ] city. Go get those guys. Um, so it's nice to see the switch, and I expect a dramatically different result because of it.

it. it. Agreed. Yeah. And he said he um he had conversations with uh both the mayor and the governor. So hopefully and AG's hopefully this calms tensions down in Minnesota and people can leave and go home and we can stop this nonsense cuz they've been doing all this and it's been like7 degrees outside so I don't even know how you still protest when it's cold. it's cold. it's cold. Yeah. Wait till it warms up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was saying this before if this had happened in the summer.

Oh my god. Sheesh. Um all right. A lot happened with the Fed yesterday. Uh I don't even know where we want to start. Um because Trump dropped his nomination. The Fed kept the rate steady. Um, let's start with the Fed, okay? okay? okay? Because this, I think, is ultimately the the bigger thing. And then we'll get into uh Trump's nomination, which is pretty surprising, and I think there's a lot to talk about there. But the honest truth is the Fed has lost complete control over the economy, but they're pretending that they're still in charge.

Per Powell's recent announcement, the Fed will be holding rates steady as Trump promises to replace Jerome Powell with someone who will finally, in Trump's mind, lower rates. Now, as I've said many times, the Fed is damned if they do and damned if they don't. So, rates are going to go down and inflation is going to go up. My core thesis goes like this. We are in fiscal dominance. Fiscal dominance means the Fed has lost control. Jerome Powell, when asked directly, wouldn't even comment on the fact that the dollar just hit a 4-year low.

He was basically like, I I don't even care. It was so wild because he can't he can't comment on it. The reality is that the national debt has taken over. The debt and the required interest payments are going to dictate monetary policy. Let me say that again. The debt and the interest rate are going to dictate monetary policy. It's not going to be the Fed. No matter who Trump puts in position, by the way, we are now entering the endgame of a multi-deade debt bubble that within the next 10 years, my best guess on the math, will bankrupt America.

The recent surge of gold past 5,000 and silver past 100 is the global financial market finally pricing in the inevitability of American sovereign debt becoming a crisis. Okay, the inevitability of that if there is a crisis of some kind uh things could unwind even faster than the 10-year mark. Uh so in my own mind I think of this as sometime between today and 10 years we will find ourselves in a sever de debt crisis. I very much doubt it will be that fast. But if there's a crisis it can move very quickly.

If there's not a crisis we'll just see a gradual decline until everywhere looks like Minnesota and America tears itself apart from the inside. And this is the important part because I know people think I'm being bombastic. That is what all empires before us have done. All of them have either ended like Britain ended up in World War II, so it played out differently. But I hope we can say that World War II is a pretty brutal price to pay for the end of your empire. Now, unless we ourselves end up in a war with China, we can expect this to be playing out at the level of just a loss of international confidence in the US to be able to pay back its debts, which means that there will be a smaller appetite for debt.

All right, but let's set aside war with another country aside for now. And let's always remember that no matter what we're going to talk about here today, because I know people I don't feel doom and gloom inside. So I want to make sure you guys aren't operating from that perspective. You can always protect yourself and your family as best you can. No one can see the future clearly, but there is cause and effect here. Goes like this. We are in a debt trap. The US national debt is now over $ 38 trillion.

And it has reached a point where interest payments alone are consuming an ungodly portion of the federal budget. It's the second largest item on our federal budget. Okay? bigger than the military, at least until Trump bumps it to 1.5 trillion. Then, hey, it would drop back down to the third largest item. The government cannot afford higher for longer interest rates without total insolveny. Okay? Again, we're we're up against mathematical forces. So the the thing that Trump is trying to do is lower rates in the short term to buy himself time for AI and all of the investments that he wants us to believe are being made in America and the deregulation to pay off and we grow our way out of this.

And I won't say it's not possible, but I will just say it would be ahistoric. You might buy yourself a generation maybe. And I know that is wonderfully exciting, but I would put that at very low odds. Therefore, the Fed has to capitulate. They're not going to want to. Powell is going to want to keep rates high. Uh but the political pressure will mount until finally they do or Powell will simply be replaced in May. Now, hiding in that phrase, the political pressure will mount is a very important idea because you won't see that as clearly in the math.

But once you understand populism, then you understand what ends up happening is I literally mean everywhere starts to look like Minnesota. Remember, I believe Minnesota is an economic problem. Minnesota is not just about immigration. It's about populism rising in the face of a global K-shaped economy. I think it would have remained a fringe thing had the global K-shaped economy not taken over. So don't think of the Fed as being confused. They just can't say what they're actually thinking. The markets spook way too easily. So I think Powell understands all of this.

Like if he and I were sitting here, he would argue, he would have, and I'm sure very good points, but the reality is that he can't say all the things that he believes to be true because markets respond crazily to news. I know we've all heard that buzz about you sell the news, but man, when you realize just how volatile news makes the market, uh, the Fed has to choose their words very carefully. So, um, you're not seeing a representation of what drone Powell or what the Fed actually thinks, you're seeing the version they believe that they can present to the public, which give like little winks and nods to where they're actually going.

But to prevent a government default and quite honestly a banking collapse, the Fed understands that they have to return to quantitative easing. And in fact, they already have via something that's being dubbed stealth quantitative easing. And this stealth quantitative easing devalues the dollar. Now, instead of calling it quantitative easing, the Fed is using a technical term called reserve management purchases. They claim that this isn't stimulus that's just meant to boost the economy. They're calling it a technical fix to ensure banks have enough cash in reserves to keep the plumbing of the financial system from freezing.

As of right now, literally right now today, the Fed is right now today creating 40 billion dollar in new money every month to buy short-term Treasury bills. Money machine go burr. Money machine is smoking. It's going burr. $40 billion a month. Man, this is wild. By focusing on short-term bills that are maturing three years or less rather than long-term bonds. The Fed argues they aren't trying to manipulate long-term interest rates. Let's be clear, everything the Fed does is meant to manipulate the market. That is the design of a central bank.

Literally it whether they will say it out loud or not. The only reason to create a central bank is to be able to smooth out the pain and suffering so that you don't get these acute crashes. You don't get acute bank failures that you don't get 1929. But the price you pay for that privilege is a K-shaped economy. So in any one moment it feels awesome. Everybody's protected. But over the long run it creates what we're living through now. Whether it's a three-month bill or a 30-year bond, the Fed is creating money out of thin air to buy government debt.

Okay? That that just is what's happening. And that is by definition quantitative easing now. With the national debt over $38 trillion, the Treasury is flooding the market with new bonds to pay its own bills. There aren't enough private buyers already to soak up all the debt that we have to deal with without interest rates skyrocketing. Remember, interest rates skyrocket because people don't want to buy the debt at the current return that they're going to get. So that return goes up and up and up and up and the money becomes more and more and more expensive.

And so for the US government to pay the interest on its own debt, it becomes more and more and more and more expensive. And that's exactly how we will bankrupt the country. Okay? Maybe it doesn't happen in a year, maybe it doesn't happen in five years, but like I said, there's nothing on the horizon other than promises that will stop it from happening within the next 10 years. Now the it from happening is when you go bankrupt, you don't technically go bankrupt. You just keep printing your money.

So now you end up doing a soft default, but that soft default makes that K-shaped economy get absolutely insane. And only the ultra ultra ultra ultra wealthy can afford a stick of gum. I mean it gets insane. This is where people are wearing the flower sacks as dresses which actually happened in the 1930s. So by purchasing the treasuries through this program that we were just talking about, it's called RMP. The Fed keeps interest rates down and thus keeps the government's borrowing costs from exploding, effectively acting as a backs stop for the Treasury's overspending and voila, you steal from everyone.

You keep deficit spending like crazy and people with the right basket of assets just keep getting richer until the music stops. The currency hyperinflates or we find ourselves in full-scale war or revolution. revolution. revolution. Now, the great irony here is after years of trying to shrink their balance via quantitative tightening, the Fed's balance sheet is once again growing, meaning they're buying up all these assets. And anytime the balance sheet is expanding, you are inflating the currency. Now, unlike in 2008, which was a localized crisis in housing and banking, this is a currency crisis.

Okay? Imagine hearing that with alarm bells, flashing red lights, me jumping up and down, screaming, flipping over the table. A currency crisis is a totally different ballgame than a sector problem. Even a sector as big as housing or banking. Okay, this is the the absolute foundation of everything. In 2008, the dollar was still a safe haven. Today, the dollar is the asset that people are fleeing. And by people, I largely mean the central banks around the world. They no longer want to hold US debt. They don't want to hold dollars.

What they want to hold is gold. And that's why gold and silver, things like that are hitting record highs while the dollar index drops. Now, as the dollar weakens, the cost of imports and energy will spike, leading to persistent inflation. And when you combine this with a cooling economy, you risk something called stagflation. Stagflation is when your wages are flat, but things are getting more expensive. In short, the government is printing money to pay interest on its debt, which is destroying the dollar's value. And the soaring price of gold is the fire alarm that's signaling that the world is losing faith in the entire US financial system.

And people do not understand just how much of our lifestyle is predicated on debt. You've got consumer debt, massive. It's how we fund our lifestyles. All those credit cards that you're able to max out. We've got corporate debt, how we're able to build all the AI infrastructure. We've got federal debt, how we're able to pay for entitlements, the military, the roads, all of that stuff. And we have gotten so ridiculous, oh, and by the way, the fraud. We have to pay for that. We've gotten so ridiculous at our deficit spending.

We've let that get so out of control that every year we stack another two trillion dollars to our national debt. debt. debt. We are going to have to balance our budget. Now, we're not going to. That's the bad news. But if we don't and we keep doing what we're doing, which apparently is the plan, um, K-shaped economy runs out of control and eventually America has to hyperinflate its currency to be able to drive the value of the debt down so far that they can pay it off easily.

Because remember, your debt is just a set number of dollars. And so if you print more of those dollars, then you can just pay it off. And what ends up happening is you pay it off by destroying your own currency. And so it is an un it it's an inhonest way to default. You're still defaulting, which is why I call it bankruptcy. You're still defaulting even though you technically paid it off, but you paid it off by draining the purchasing power of the dollar. It's no bueno.

It's the most noble trap, but yet I feel like we're about to walk right into it. I'm not going to give you that. It's a noble trap. I think that um we're we're all stuck in the human mind works in a certain way. I don't think that people do it to be kind. I think they recognize that it will keep them in power. Like I'll make a statement very clear. If If If giving people free things cost mom Donnie the election, he wouldn't have done it.

done it. done it. politicians will do and say whatever they need to. They follow the populace. They don't lead the populace. That's the confusion. That's why I say Donald Trump was summoned. Now, he's a personality type. He existed before he became president. But there are plenty of eras where Donald Trump would never have become president. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever. Had he run against Bill Clinton in the 90s, get the [ __ ] out of here. The vibe was so different. people have been like no way. So somebody like that just they're they are a product of the their ascension is a product of the time.

And so politicians that rise to that level, it's really just what's going to keep me in power. And so I'll I hate saying this example because I have so much reverence for what this person means historically. But Lincoln didn't start down the path of the Civil War to free the slaves. He did that once he realized, oh wait a second, the bankers are all funding both sides of the war, which is smart, by the way. Very smart. Always fund both sides. That way whoever wins, you come out.

Yeah. It's you're hedging. So it's a from a purely monetary position, it's a very wise strategy. So he saw that's what people were doing. And so then he does the uh emancipation proclamation so that if you were funding the other side, you were specifically funding to keep people in slavery. Now what Americans probably don't realize is that England was the first country to abolish slavery. And they sailed all over the world taking on uh slave ships and trying to end it. and it cost them a ton of money and a ton of lives because they just got to the moral reality of it faster than anybody else.

So now at a time where England is like the most powerful country in the world, they're the ones saying, "Oh, [ __ ] We can't fund the other side because it's about slavery and we don't believe in slavery." So it was a genius move on Lincoln's part, but keep in mind it was about winning. about winning. about winning. It wasn't about like this is a moral thing and I'm willing to do whatever the [ __ ] Now he stood by it. He ended up giving his life for it. All of that.

So, you know, I don't want to discredit the man. But I say that so that people understand what humans are really like. We play to win. You know what? And that's hilarious, too, cuz that kind of reminds me of what Trump said about housing. Um, when he was like, uh, here it is. when he goes full retisting housing, people that own their homes, we're going to keep them wealthy. We're going to keep those prices up. We're not going to destroy the value of their homes so that somebody that didn't work very hard can buy a home.

We're going to get we're going to make it easier to buy. We're going to get interest rates down, but I want to protect the people that for the first time in their lives feel good about themselves. They feel like they've, you know, that they're wealthy people. And I want them to understand it. You know, uh, there's so much talk about, oh, we're going to drive housing prices down. I don't want to drive housing prices down. I want to drive housing prices up for people that own their homes.

homes. homes. You know what I mean? So, it's like, yeah, you're not saying this to who you think you're saying it to. And then that's when I realized like, oh yeah, you're talking to your base. This is full [ __ ] So, it makes me very, very very, very very, very sad, but I am not in the least bit surprised. Um, he's going to have to message things so that homeowners don't freak out. Yeah. But the reality is you have to think about I don't have kids. Mhm.

Mhm. Mhm. But I think about the kids a lot. Like what's the world that you're leaving them them them and this is one of those times where I wish people would live forever. They'd think a lot more about the future. So you can't just say what's good for me in this exact moment. You've got to say, "I need the context of my life to have a certain setup." And part of that context needs to be safety and stability. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And when you do things that do not give you safety and stability, I'm just like, what are these people doing?

So, this keeping housing prices high means that you're limiting supply like by its very nature. And also in our wonderful circumstances that is very sarcastic. Uh you do it through inflation. And so some of the they feel wealthy is all fake. Like it's not real. The dollar is just declining in value. I hate how true that is and how it's just impossible to get somebody who's too busy to spend time thinking about this stuff to really stop and think. They just go, "Bro, my house is worth more.

What the [ __ ] are you talking about?" And so, um, and I get it. And listen, if you're using a house in that way and you recognize you're paying a whole lot of money money money to protect your money from inflation. So, it's like at a casino, you can place the insurance bet like I don't know if you've ever seen those where you like you put money down against like the big pot or something. I don't even know how it works, but you put an insurance bet down so that you don't totally miss out on whatever.

And that's what this is. Owning a home is one of the worst ways to protect yourself from inflation. It's just the way that people understand. So, the vast majority of people are going to do it. And he's right. They feel wealthy for the first time and they feel good about themselves. He's very right about all that stuff. Like home ownership feels good. And given that we're still uh overwhelmingly uh overwhelmingly uh overwhelmingly uh heterosexual at the population level, women are going to bark at men to buy them a house.

And so now you've got I as a guy want to get laid. To get laid, I've got to please my wife or girlfriend, whatever. And my girlfriend just won't stop banging on about me owning a house. And so there's this evolutionary pressure to get you to accidentally do the right thing. And so I'm like, okay, great. Like that's the setup. It works. Let people do it. But uh here we are breaking it once again. So he is going to do foolish things that will keep the price of housing high.

And you'll have a small group of people that are uh are uh are uh Oh, what what were we just scrolling past? Oh, past? Oh, past? Oh, is this vis visible to the No, no, no, no, no. Chat, Drew, Drew's algo is uh questionable at best. I'm doing a community check cuz I I'm going to the Iran story next. Um but there somebody said that this was a old video and I was like, "Okay, let me go to the to the to the Oh, interesting." Okay.

Yeah, very possible. So, we'll get to that in a second. So anyway, he's going to keep housing prices high. He'll do it through inflation. He'll do it through limited supply. And you just basically lock in uh elder millennials and up. We're able to own a house and everybody else is [ __ ] And that's how you end up in revolution. It's just so wild. This feels so predictable. Yeah. Um so I know there's like a whole armada moving into Iran right now and we're supposed to just be sitting there.

Trump had that spicy tweet a couple days ago, no nuclear weapons. Um, but it seems like this is legit that there is still people protesting, people are still walking. still walking. still walking. So, is this video old or not? It's not. I'm just trying to take like another angle to see like maybe I can get more context behind it, but it seems like there is like a a energy behind uh Let me give you the context. It goes something like this. So, um, from the Iranian perspective, if you if you've been being dominated by your government for almost 50 years and you suddenly realize that you have the backing for whatever reason of the most powerful military on planet Earth, you've got your big brother standing there.

You're far more likely to get into a fight when you feel like somebody's got your back and they're not going to let you be slaughtered on mass. And so this really could be the tipping point that everybody in Iran has been waiting for. So uh I am extremely encouraged. My fingers are very much crossed as this is partly a proxy war between Russia and China united who are doing naval uh exercises together uh with Iran going up against the US which I think have very impure motives.

I don't think anybody's going to be surprised to hear me say that. Uh I think we have very impure motives but it's being leveraged. hopefully by the people of Iran who want to be free. And I don't think there's nearly enough energy in America uh celebrating our freedoms, celebrating the fact that people were willing to die so that we could have our freedoms. How important freedom is to progress because freedom is the thing that allows you to think through problems. And when you're not allowed to speak freely, you're not allowed to think freely, literally by definition.

And you're not allowed to test. And you're not allowed to try things. and you're not allowed to question orthodoxy and things stall out. You don't have to think back to any more than 2020 when we weren't allowed to question the science and all of a sudden it's like the progress that was being made slowed down. It went underground. People weren't allowed to say things. I was just absolutely wild. And that is how people get stuck. And so the Iranian people from where I'm sitting, I do not represent the Iranian people in any way, shape, or form.

of where I'm sitting, anybody that is forced to align to theocratic beliefs, theocratic beliefs, theocratic beliefs, you're in trouble. And just as believe it was Galileo that ended up being put on house arrest for the rest of his life for saying that the earth revolved around the sun, which is absolute insanity, uh you end up in stupid things like that. or uh Socrates who was he chose death but he was either going to be exiled or put to death for corrupting the youth via the socratic method which we now use in like grade school.

So it is just absolutely wild what when you have a theocratic notion of how the world ought to be, how the world is, and you force everybody to conform, everything just grinds to a halt, including human dignity, including human safety, because the only way to keep a regime like the Iranian regime running is to kill and kill and kill and kill. Uh, and you do that to keep everybody else terrified. That sucks. That is not a way to live. So, um, yeah, I mean, I hope that this comes from the Iranian people themselves, that they rise up.

Uh, it's incredibly, um, inspiring and exciting to see them still marching in the streets because on the low end, people are saying 5,000 killed. Think about that. I think that's more than were killed in 9/11. Um, more than were killed in October 7th. Uh, and on the high end, people are saying up to 40,000 people killed. And so that took two years of Israel Palestine to reach those kind of numbers. So numbers. So numbers. So that's a population in Greenland, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild.

So we'll see. But hopefully this plays out positively. Sending all the love and encouragement to the people in Iran who I know and Farhad I think of you often. Uh so hope you are doing well my friend and I wish that for everybody there. Shout out to Biryani. Love Iranian food. Um, all right. Let's do some super chats. chats. chats. We've got a ton today. Uh, so starting at the top with Leblon. He said, "Good morning, everyone, and have a good a beautiful and wonderful day." Shout out to LeBlanc.

That's becoming a regular. Happy Friday, everybody. All that good stuff stuff stuff indeed. indeed. indeed. Second one from Leblon. Don Lemon got arrested last night. I need to speak more clearly today. Don Lemon got arrested last night. Also, before anyone cries f free speech if you p part participate in coercion and intimidation of people in places of worship for political reasons, it's not free speech. Yeah, America is going to have a lot of things to reconcile with what's free speech. Obviously, what is playing out in Minnesota?

Um is spitting on cop vehicles free speech? Is kicking their tail light free speech? Um where's the line? So there we need to be very thoughtful about where we draw the line. Uh so be careful. Next up from big diglers, we've got two of them. Uh first, why was Gabbard participating in the FBI raid? DNI on-site hints at foreign meddling. [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] Maduro is singing lack of standing to dismiss 2020 election suits and verifi and no verification of lack of fraud. They never looked, thus never found any.

that might be a little um underelling. Now, I haven't looked at this super closely, but it does appear that there were audits. Now, the audits were done by the people themselves, and so I get it. Much like if you think that Tulsi Gabbard cannot be trusted, you're going to think that the officials in Georgia can't be trusted. And in fairness, there's been a lot of irregularities in Georgia in that specific place. uh for years, by the way, before Donald Trump came on the scene, people have been pointing a finger at them and saying there's something fishy.

Uh so, we'll see how it plays out. But, um the way that I would interpret this is that we should all just want the truth. So, anybody that has a beef with them looking, I don't understand why they would have a beef. Let's look. Um and anybody that also just immediately assumes the other side is a problem. Even if that ends up being the case, you just be more charitable than that if for no other reason than to stop yourself from sliding into uh group think.

And that person accidentally paid for that super chat twice. So, thank you for the double super chats. Appreciate you, big big big uh Marushia Dark said, "Rapid fire. Trump is suing the IRS for leaking his tax documents. Dick Durban fell on fell for an AI photo of Prey on the Senate floor and the officer had no head. BBC video shows Freddy attacked Ice Cars. Someone posed as FBI to free Luigi. That was a speedrun. I'm not sure that some of the like I didn't follow the switch to Luigi.

Did you hear that story? Somebody posed a FBI agent to break him out of jail. No. No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What? What? What? Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah, it was alleged. But yeah. Wait, did they succeed? No, no, no. He's still in jail. But yeah, it was a attempt to break So, wait, what? Where is that case? He Well, he's like in court. He's in trial now. trial now. trial now. It's still ongoing. It's been going for like over what, two months? It's been going for a minute.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. Speed of the federal government. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. Well, thank you for all of those. We'll let them stand as comments, I think, more than uh things that need to be argued against. So, word. Certainly. Thank you for putting the Luigi thing on my radar. I had no idea. Next one from Leblon again. If someone [snorts] breaks into a building and you know beforehand and you follow them in and just claim free speech, you're going to get arrested. We don't live in a cast system.

Journalists don't have more rights than others. Uh they don't have more rights than others, but you definitely want journalists to be treated differently. So even think about a war zone. If you're marked as a journalist, everybody rightly gets more traumatized if you kill a journalist. Uh which I think is good and right. Uh and so I don't believe if you're like a nature photographer, I don't believe that you have to stop the seal from getting eaten by the killer whale. I don't think you have to stop the um baboons from tearing another baboon apart.

It's horrifying. But your role in that ecosystem is to observe. And so if there are journalists embedded with um even if it let's let's really push it to the extreme. There's a journalist embedded with um a group that plans to do a terrorist act. Let's really make it horrible. Uh, if you have foreign knowledge where people are going to lose their lives and you don't speak up, I've got beef. If you have um if you don't know what they're going to do, but you know that they are a terrorist organization and you happen to be filming and a murder occurs, I don't think that's on the journalist.

So, think about the war correspondents in um Vietnam. So they didn't stop some of those massacres from happening, but by documenting them, they were able to get public opinion to switch and turn against them. And so my guiding light is that we need to get the information somehow someway. And there is a very bizarre tendency for um people doing illegal [ __ ] to still want the clout and to be documented. So it's like, yeah, document away. Now again, if you know that there's going to be that level of crime committed, um I would for sure want you to say something.

But like if you know that they're about to go shoplift, I'd much rather get the documentation. So um yeah, that's where I come down on it. Next up from Brandon Green. Tom, please do a deep dive on the trucking industry and American truck trucking companies are going out of business. Also, the illegal immigrants connection to getting CDLs uh by states to drive down rates and pay for us truck drivers. Yeah, that's that's pretty wild. Uh the whole CDL thing is here. Here's how I think all of this is going to play out.

This is my working mental model. I try to always remind myself. I'm sure there's something I'm missing to not hold on to these beliefs too tightly. But, uh I think it's going to go like this. We have created a system with all of the entitlements where um we have an easy easy easy beacon to draw people from all around the world that are drawn to handouts. So with that system in place, you then start getting this massive influx of people. And there was just more documentation coming out showing that um in California, we are in fact giving um health care, optional health care, not just emergency optional healthcare treatment to illegal aliens, things that a citizen would not get.

And so we're spending God knows how much money on that, but it's more than a billion dollars. So we know that that is happening. So people are incoming to the state. uh that is given the current strategy that Democrats run, which is to leverage freebies to get people in the country. So, you've got the right appealing to businesses, you've got the left appealing to um basically anybody that's going to vote for more free stuff. Uh you get this massive influx of very useful bodies as they call it for the census.

So now even if they don't vote, you just have more representation in the electoral college. Then on top of that, if you are creating a way for them to vote, which I think is going to come out and I think we're going to see an absolute just title wave of fraud uh around voting, uh which is why they're passing all the you can't ask for ID, ICE can't be anywhere near a polling place, all that stuff, which you wouldn't care about if you weren't worried about illegals uh being blocked from voting.

So I think that we're going to see just an absolute title wave of that. And so as you then go, oh yeah, the incentives are aligned. You have a party that uses the strategy of giving things for free. Uh you have a system that gives things for free that attracts a lot of people. That bumps up the census and helps you politically. And we deficit spend anyway. So what does it matter? Just give the stuff for free. Turn a blind eye to the fraud. Get as many people there as you can.

Boost the um census. If you can get away with illegal voter fraud, do it. it's just going to keep you in power. So, um I have a feeling it's going to play out like that. So, we'll see. But that's my next up from Kiss My White RS. Uh hey Tom, Australia has an FTA deal with EU. This is four years of access to the EU for Australian citizens, zero by birth or naturalization. Um no job offer required. Foreign citizens equal 31.5% of the Australian population and will have a free access to Europe.

Thoughts? I think Europe's committing suicide. I I don't know what they're thinking. It It is stupid. Actually, I do know what they're thinking. And it goes like this. Uh we have to maintain power and the easiest way to maintain power when you have a declining population is to bring in immigrants. And it's perfectly fine that it will be the death of our culture because our culture was going to die anyway because people aren't having kids. Uh and so I'll at least stay in power, you know, while I'm alive.

and the fact that I hand off a country that is completely unrecognizable to the next generation just doesn't matter. Stay in power. Uh if you assume they are running that algorithm, everything they're doing makes sense. Especially, and here's where we get really gross. Now, imagine that you are one of the people in the elite category that deal with the world at the level of structural forces and you believe I can control immigrants. What's the matter? So, yeah, bring them in. Uh, I'm not on the street at the street level, so I don't give a [ __ ] about that.

Uh, if you're getting stabbed, grooming gangs, whatever, whatever, whatever. Like, that's not touching my world. Uh, so just keep bringing the population in. Now, Japan is running a totally different strategy. It'll be interesting to see which one works better. My vote is clearly with Japan because I think that value systems matter so much uh that any fool who thinks that their government control will trump uh values is an idiot. Um so what Japan is doing is they're saying, "Okay, we have a rapidly declining population and we're going to use robots." And so Japan is literally going to they're already at the forefront of that.

Uh they're going to use it to take care of the elderly and they're going to use it to increase productivity so that they don't need to um draw in immigrants who were already beginning to influence their culture in ways that they did not like. And I think they only have like 3% immigrant population. Uh so they put the kibash on that real fast. So we'll see. We're we're seeing a natural experiment run between Europe, from where I'm sitting, committing suicide, and Japan saying if we die, we die.

But uh we're going to stay Japan all the way to the end. Next from Stoic Anarchy, the right to peacefully assemble means you can't go into a peaceful assembly. It violates the rights the rights of those peacefully assembling. Uh violence or simple disruption, the government protecting your rights to assemble. Yeah, I think that people will have a harder time than you think saying what's still peaceful. So, and like can you stand in the middle of the street? Can you um superglue your hand to the freeway?

Are these peaceful or have they violated other laws by blocking traffic, etc., etc. That's where all the drama plays out. plays out. plays out. From Sequoia Hall, Georgia, where they closed the local polling places and you have to stand in long lines in the democratic areas. You cannot give people in line water, etc. Voter suppression needs to stop. Only one side is doing this type of work. Uh, so if I'm understanding him correctly, he's saying that Republicans are putting laws in place like you can't give them water, and that's voter suppression.

suppression. suppression. You have to stand in long lines in the dim areas. dim areas. dim areas. Yeah. There's only like one polling place for a population of like 40,000, for example. And again, you can only vote between 9 and five. So, do they not have policies around what the um like hey for x number of people you should have this many polling places by state. state. state. So, what's stopping them from spinning up more up more up more state legislature state legislature state legislature but where there's a mechanism the state legislature is saying the state legislature dictates the state's voters laws.

So, but I'm saying the Republicans aren't having this problem but Democrats are. What policy is causing that? No, because Sequoia specifically is saying that the governor that controls Georgia, Yep. who's typically Republican, Yep. is in certain districts saying this is okay. In other districts saying certain things, things, things, that what what is this? When he says this is okay, he's doing executive orders orders orders that are saying in for whatever reason in this zip code you can't have more polling places, but in this zip code you can.

can. can. It's not. It's not. It's not. So, we'd have to research. It doesn't sound like we know. But this is where I Okay, so one of the things that I teach entrepreneurs in Impact Theory University is there's nothing mystical, magical about running a business. A business is a spreadsheet. You look at your spreadsheet and you say, "Oh, I don't like the result that I'm getting, but it's going to be locked to an action. There's a thing you do that causes this problem." So if this is really true and the government has made a policy that advantages Republicans somehow some way and disadvantages Democrats somehow some way, you can point to the direct mechanism and say this mechanism is the problem.

Fix this mechanism. So we live in a world of cause and effect. So people just need to point to the thing and say stop doing this. Now if they're not for some reason, let's start screaming corruption, whatever. I'm all for it. Like obviously these things should be equal. Um but we tend to get into the um drum banging of it all. This is unfair. This is bad. Instead of saying it's this mechanism, this this is the thing that's broken. Let's fix that. Uh Uh Uh if that's the case, I got some extra chat if you want to go detailed.

detailed. detailed. Um this one doesn't feel like the most interesting thing. interesting thing. interesting thing. Thanks super chat from big dicklers. Uh, lack of standing means the courts never heard arguments against the 2020 election, but MSM ran with this as courts looked and found no fraud. This is narrative creation. The courts never looked and thus never found. found. found. Could you read the next one, too, cuz it's hilarious. They contradict each other. other. other. Yes. Uh, from Andrea 2798, uh, Georgia said they counted and recounted the ballots.

They agree the ballots themselves were fine. That was never the issue. The issue is they didn't verify signatures, match names to voter roles, or properly confirm chain of custody. Yeah, that's why for me this is like just look, just go look. Just put it to bed. All is going to be well. Uh but you've got to let people run the thing. And by the way, if you also want cuz one thing given the moment that we're in right now, have somebody that both sides are like, "Okay, uh I've got my representative, say the Republicans.

I've got my representative, say the Democrats, and they hold hands and they look at everything together. Cool. Love that. Yay." But, uh, not wanting to look is the weird part. That's where I'm just like, I don't know what people are thinking. Uh, okay. There was a viral tweet that kind of went off about um, what was his name in Breaking Bad? Gus. Gus Fring. Yep. Yep. Yep. Um, Gus Fring saying he's trying to all 50 uh, 50 million people, which I mean, it's not quite what he said, but uh, it's uh, it's spicy nonetheless.

nonetheless. nonetheless. This is time for a revolution. it's time for it. And they don't even know that's what they're starting. You know, some very rich white men are um exerting their power to suppress um our own people, thus creating a feeling of civil war in the streets, preparing the hate uh the haters to hate, teaching them how to shoot. They're not even trained, right? To kill. This is all a preparation for a very insidious um uh problem that's happening in our world. Uh and for me um I I have to speak out that we're we we will not be iced out.

This is not going to happen. They can't take us all down. If the whole world showed up on on Putin's doorstep or on Iranian's doorstep or in Washington, it would stop they'll kill a 550 million however. But the would survive with a new we have this is time for a revolution bro when you kill 50 million people you're talking that's the scale of World War II War II War II so he's like you know what like even if they kill 50 million of us does it matter so I'm just like listen there is Thomas Jefferson was right when he said that liberty comes uh with the requirement to water it with the blood of patriots and tyrants alike.

So, he's not wrong, but boy, do you need to be thoughtful about where that line is because man, uh, one, rolling up on Putin's doorstep, I assure you, he can and will kill 50 million people. Uh, so I wouldn't, he's not the guy to play with. with. with. Uh, you'll notice that in Iran, they're only able to do it because you've got the US military on their side. So, be a little more careful. And if what he's really talking about is locally here at home, uh, and he was just trying to temper it by not just saying roll up on the White House, then it's like, okay, please tell me the exact policy that you want history to remember that you sent 50 million people to die for.

Exactly. Um, now I will say that he is not wrong about the people are in control and people should never lose sight of that. People should never fear their government and their government should be scared to death of the people. That is for sure. Do I love the flippant way that he's talking now? No. Would I much rather see him help people find a path to deescalation? Yes. Do I think that a lot of people just get caught up in their feels and they speak from like what feels like he's saying words that make him feel invigorated versus words that actually are going to lead to an outcome that's useful.

So, um yeah, a bit silly in that sense. Um, I wanted to frame this with another By the way, that tweet had like 17 million views. million views. million views. So, people definitely felt some kind of way about that. This is probably because he was dressed that way. But, um, I wanted to frame it with this cuz I thought this was a very interesting perspective. And me as a 53year-old, you know, sometimes I have to look back and think what what the youth are going through.

Um, Jasmine Sun said, "If you're 21 now, Trump has been president or running for president since you were 10. This obviously has gargantuan consequences for Jenz's views on democracy, virtue, success, and basically everything else. Trump shaped a whole generation's personal character, and we still don't talk about it enough. When I was growing up, presidential made me meant something very different than somebody who's 10 now growing up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so lawfare, pettiness, senators who are on podcast, all this is now normalized. So I don't see us when we always say we need to kind of fan the flames and go back to the middle and realize that you know we need to go back to how it used to be.

There is a whole generation of people who are like what this is isn't this how politics works? We're supposed to be like this. I'm supposed to hate the other side. I'm supposed to call them names. I'm not supposed to like them. What do you mean? So like are we fundamentally teaching our children I'll start it there. The wrong way to approach civics in the US US US aggressively. First of all from what I hear coming out of the education system. the education system is a complete joke.

It is not teaching people how to think. It is telling them what to think. Uh and that already is a nightmare. You're abstracting cause and effect grotesqually. Uh you are not teaching people how to find compromise and how to understand your way is not the right way. Your way is just your way, which would definitely be one of the things I would want to get people across. And as a PSA, I I will often have a flash in my head uh that says, "This is the hill I'm going to die on." And I almost always stop myself from saying it, but here is the hill that I will actually die on.

Because I love and care about everybody that can hear my voice right now, I will tell you, your emotions do not have your best interests at heart. And anytime someone looks at you and tells you you're invalidating their emotions or whatever, be thoughtful in that moment because I'm assuming that person loves and or is somebody that you love and care about and all that. And so you don't want to intentionally upset them. That's not my message. But do not get sucked into that argumentation. That argument makes no sense whatsoever for that person.

For that person to have the life that they want to live, they must learn to use their emotions. but no one to step outside of it. I would not want to live a life devoid of emotion. I also would not want to live a life where I'm a slave to my emotions. So, just as I would not want to live in a world where I had no hungers whatsoever, I don't want to be a drug addict. I don't want to be a food addict. I don't want to be addicted to anything.

And I find that people get trapped inside of their emotions to the point where they do not have any interest in seeing the world as it actually is. They only want to interface with the world as it makes them feel. And that is pure insanity for them because now your emotions are going to lead you all over the place. Most certainly towards ruin. And they are a device that evolution came up with to make it possible for you to choose between A and B. They are not meant to be an arbiter of truth.

They are meant to be a thing that helps you move forward. Once I understood, oh, my emotions are just trying to drive me forward, but they don't have long-term planning. I have to be in control of the long-term planning, and then I have to figure out which of these paths actually leads me towards that thing that I want. So anyway, I just h man, it really um it makes me as sad to see a type 2 diabetic keep eating terrible food until their feet get removed, they go blind, and then ultimately die far too young as it does to watch somebody who lives their entire life by emotion.

It is just as self-destructive as the person who's eating themselves to death. And somehow people have convinced themselves that it actually makes sense to be mad at somebody for quote unquote invalidating their feelings. That is wild. Your feelings don't have any validity. They're just [ __ ] feelings. It just means your brain over uh your dent of your birth and the things that you've experienced reacts in that moment in a certain way to something. In that moment, it'll be different from next moment to next moment. I could give you a simple chemical compound and it will completely change all of your emotions.

If that doesn't make you realize, oh, this is this is all just chemical processing. So, uh, did you know that a judge who's just come back from lunch is more likely to pardon somebody than the person who does it just before lunch because they're [ __ ] hungry. That was a crazy step when I found that out. out. out. I don't understand how people don't hear something like that and go, "Oh, that's me, too." wild. I need to be very careful because I'm stuck in this body and this body is doing things that do not lead me towards the things that I want and I don't want to be a slave to my emotions or my biology etc etc and there are ways not out of it because it's also beautiful.

It's wonderful. Emotions are incredible. Love is one of the greatest gifts that life will ever give you at the same time. You know, imagine if I had to do an extra 18 months cuz you wanted a a burger in 10 minutes. Oh my goodness. like that that speech was crazy. That is brutal. Yes. Uh and then we also had that uh stat about uh women judges versus men judges and stuff like that too. Like I don't know that stat but something tells me it's going to be I forgot about it when we were talking about the feminization of society and they were like law schools have like changed and stuff like that.

Um okay everybody it's time for everybody's favorite segment. And by the way just really fast to tidy up any uh reactions from chat. I'm as pulled by my emotions as anyone else. I simply don't trust my emotions. So, do I do stupid things because I get emotional? Of course I do. I'm just saying I don't go to bat for it. So, when I do something stupid based on my emotions, like a [ __ ] that was really stupid. That was an emotional decision. I don't go don't invalidate my emotions.

I facto. Um, all right. Let's um grab these uh let's grab these tinfoil hats um and let's start with aliens and then we'll get into the other one. Um UK filmmaker Mark Christopher Lee claims he was contacted by a Trump administration insider who says President Trump has already written an historical UFO disclosure speech confirming humanity is not alone. Now this is on the back. Remember a couple weeks ago the Bank of England was like don't talk about the aliens yet. I need to sell my bonds.

So I I I they starting to connect. Lee initially said the speech was planned for a UN address then later claimed the insider provided a specific date July 8th 2026 tied to the Roswell anniversary. I mean listen this is uh this is one of those things that I would love for it to be real. I would love you would love love. Oh my god. In all capital letters, there is virtually nothing that you could tell me that would be more exciting. Uh if you told me we could bend spacetime, I'd be a little more excited.

But if you told me that aliens were real, I'd be like, "That is awesome. I'm so excited." I just assume one of two things is true. either we're in a simulation and they're just simulating us and so there's no need to render intelligent life elsewhere uh up until the point where we can bend spaceime and then you would render them because it's just so much processing power to actually be running the other civilization. So they would just be probabilities for now and then when we get to the point where we can bend spacetime or if the logic of the simulation is running something behind the scenes where it's like well other civilizations always have this constant probability of finally doing it and then boom they enter our airspace or whatever and then they sort of become real.

They start being rendered at least the ones that we can see. So yeah like cool I would buy that or there are aliens and we just aren't close enough to see them. Like it doesn't make any sense that in a universe universe universe as absolutely staggeringly large as ours is like people they cannot comprehend however big you think it is. You need to multiply it by infinity and an ice cream cone. It is so much bigger than people realize. And so the odds that were like the only get out of here.

No way. So in for my money one of those two things is true. true. true. I went to you know where I went? I went to the poly market. It's a nine percent chance that they confirm it before 2027. If we bet $100, it's $1,000, Tom. $1,100. $1,100. $1,100. Yeah. I don't Well, so here's what's interesting, and this is this is one I promise you there are going to be lawsuits over this one because they say confirm because the US could do something that a very substantive portion of the world goes that is confirmation.

So, like all of this bet hangs on the word confirm because there were ones I forget about um will Trump invade Venezuela and then he goes in and grabs Maduro and they paid out the people who said that it wouldn't happen. And so people are like what? Like he [ __ ] went in with the military and snatched this guy and they killed people on the ground. Like how are you not calling that an invasion? And so it was like well bro they didn't stay not an invasion.

And so, yeah, the this is where whatever Trump says, people like me, first of all, are going to dismiss it. I'm going be like, "Uh-huh. Yeah, right." Uh, even if Trump believes it, I'm not going to believe it. Like, literally, homie would have to walk in the room, be like, "No, Tom, for real. Like, I'm an alien. I come from Alpha Centauri. Here's how we got here. Let me walk you through the physics." I'd get Eric Weinstein to come in, validate the physics for me. Like, then I'd be like, "Damn, I guess." So, up till that point, I'm assuming everything is AI and governmental manipulation.

You guys really do at some point have to see the things that Drew put. It's gonna be funny. I'm gonna set this one up. I've been waiting for this segment for two days. All right, without further ado, let's get to it because there's some wild [ __ ] on the screen over here. All right. U you guys have probably seen this. Uh, put your tin foil highs on. Allegedly, allegedly, disclaimer, apparently. Sorus Candace Owens. Well, she's also gonna speak for herself here in a second. This is a a leaked Zoom call from Erica Kirk as she was debriefing her staff after the Charlie Kirk's memorial.

Kirk's memorial. Kirk's memorial. Just I think it was five days. Five well technically 11 days after his like official death. Um I see. I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah. But so still soon. But still soon. Yeah. But I think the call was 5 days. But it's just one of those things like okay just this is in totality. Her husband died 11 days ago in front of everybody and apparently her children and stuff were there. boss, but someone that you looked up to, someone that you uh believed in his No, no, you have to rewind it because it's the part at the very beginning that people are freaking out about.

Thumbs up. Look how cute that is. Sorry, this is a little bit more informal than probably Charlie would be reacting. How sweet. sweet. sweet. I didn't know they could do that. I hate Zoom. I never like Zoom. Sorry, you guys. Um, I just wanted to say first and foremost, um, my heart obviously is broken for you guys as much it is for our family. You guys, you see how like it like changed from like the big smile to like the this is another section I want to like pop into when she's like announcing like the merch sales.

So, basically, people are reading this as um this this is disingenuous. I think if you reach into their soul, the people that are really up in arms about this are trying to say that she's effectively like a plant and they got her to marry Charlie Kirk as some grand conspiracy and like uh they took out Charlie knowing that they'd be able to put his wife in place and she's really the one that they want running this. They're not saying that, but this is what I imagine people believe that are saying all of that stuff.

Um, so for me, I have a very different read on this, but if you have other parts you want to play, now would be the time. I I can't find it and I don't feel like scrubbing it. scrubbing it. scrubbing it. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, for me, man, um, I cannot imagine the grief that somebody would go through in losing somebody that they love, but Oh, there was a correction. It was 5 days after his death. My bad. So, you were right. were right. were right.

Okay. So, um the reality that she would be, uh stepping up in his place, trying to keep the organization that he had going on, like I think about Lisa putting on a brave face for um Impact Theory and being like, "Okay, listen. This is what Tom would want." And smiling and trying to be upbeat for people. like does not in any way, shape or form say that this is not somebody who was like just before coming on camera an absolute mess and just after being on camera becomes an absolute mess again.

So I like this is one of those parts of humans getting to be getting to dissect people for whom they have no emotion around. They don't know her, whatever. She's just like a a NPC in a video game to them. And so it's like ah this this NPC's program super weird. Like the way she's acting and that one to me is that's heartbreaking. I can only imagine what she's going through is brutal. And listen, Charlie Kirk married this woman. Is it possible that he married Israeli spy?

Sure. Is that the likely outcome? No. So, uh, this one to me feels like there there is a certain way to parse the world that says everything is a conspiracy. Everything is fake. Nothing is as it seems. And I'm empathetic to that as you zoom out and get into James Bham narrative control, elites trying to run things, all of that. But you've got to parse your level of analysis. And so when you're getting down into at this level of analysis, a mother and wife who is smiling and laughing, when she has presumably a deep feeling of desire to protect her husband's legacy, is trying to be encouraging and empathetic and saying, "I understand what you guys are going through." like you you either clock her as a monster, which some people I'm sure do, or you just go, there's no right way to do this moment.

And And And you can't tell people how to grieve. Yeah. Like you're never it's not like you're never going to laugh again. And I don't want to cheat in what she's going through by saying this, but I remember when um our dog died, which I was completely caught off guard by how upset that made me. And you would you would vacasillate between being upset and being fine. And so so so she not only is gonna have that natural human vacasillation of going back and forth, but she has to put on a brave face for the organization.

So it feels very like I don't like in myself that like flippant like ahaha like look at what this person's doing like that's so gross or weird or whatever. knowing that when I go through it and then people pick it to death. Like every now and then I'll see people's interpretation of me from the outside and I'm just like that's so weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but I get it. I'm sure that is how I come across to some people, especially because you're only going to see bits and pieces of me.

So, anyway, I have far more empathy and don't buy into the thing that she's like some big plant. It was all a conspiracy and that Turning Point USA themselves got them killed and all that stuff, but I know there's more. Okay. So, if that was my conspiracy cap, this is maybe my conspiracy hoodie. And I have more. I'm going end up in a conspiracy jumpsuit. But we getting there there there because Charlie had to fly back to Palm Beach with the president. And it's crazy to look back and you just kind of see the Lord kind of knitting his own beautiful image that sometimes we just don't always see.

But we're we're blessed to be here for the second staff meeting at Infest with you. Okay. So that video shows Erica Kirk standing on a coffee table on a pedestal. She's prepping for her first time leading Amfest. Now Mikey McCoy recalls a time previous to that when Charlie was unavailable for Amfest. I guess he was traveling with the president and Erica stood in for him then. And shockingly, Mikey takes this moment not to reminisce about Charlie's legacy, legacy, legacy, but to insinuate instead that Charlie being assassinated was all part of God's plan to usher in the coming.

So, first of all, I hear religious people say that [ __ ] all the time about everything. everything. everything. Like, it's God's plan. It was [clears throat] God's plan. God works him in serious ways. God called Charlie home. Like, so that's not weird. Now, I will admit that if I were in charge of the transition, now I don't know the context around this. I don't know how many other meetings they've had. Maybe they did what I'm about to explain a dozen times. But only seeing that if I am thinking, okay, my job is to transition the emotional allegiance of this gigantic organization from Charlie to Erica.

Uh, you have to handle it very carefully. You do need to elevate her in some way, which they are literally doing physically by having her stand in the coffee table. You need to elevate her in some way. You need to separate her from everybody else. You need to put her in that vaunted position that Charlie had gotten himself in by doing, you know, years and years of like the on the ground debates and all that stuff and just the gazillion billions and billions of views of him like doing it all so that that that people get that reverence for him.

Uh you're trying to shorthand that. But if I were trying to pass things off, I would do something way more subtle. So you've got her sitting, you put her in a hyper intimate area where people are gathered around her, she's elevated, but she's seated. It's going to be a very different vibe. different vibe. different vibe. They're like a sitting on the floor type thing, like carpets and rugs. Amazing. Or even just a a small like circular das or something. And then you put people maybe in a half circle around her.

There's something about that. you get them very very close to her so it feels incredibly intimate and you don't have the artifacts of all the other people there and one thing that you could do because he's basically saying okay I'm going to confer the thing on her I'm going to say the thing she can't say so he's playing a very important role role role but his tone his demeanor needs to be one of reverence for Charlie now the thing you're trying to hand to her is the reverence for Charlie and so embodying the reverence that everybody has the mixed sense of mourning and um religious importance like all of that stuff is incredible.

So like having that sense of Charlie was called home by God I think is very powerful but you want to have a mourning for us have you want to have a mourning for us mortals here on earth. We we mourn we lament. lament. lament. Uh we cannot understand why God would do that. However, we know that God is real. We know that God is just. We know that he has a plan. And so from what we can see and what we understand and if Charlie spoke to me, whatever language they would naturally use, I think it's obvious to all of us that Erica is the successor.

And so if you've got her on an elevated deis seated, everyone's oriented to her, he's standing but off to the side conferring the all of that onto her. He's setting the tone. It's very down. It's very like we're all in the grips of mourning and all of that. And then what you're shifting then is pulling out of that into hope. And you put the hope in that moment of despair on Erica seated lit well like all that [ __ ] Now Erica, I would have said your tone your tone your tone needs to be like reflective of how they feel.

You want to reflect that back to them. So, give them a tone that is um true and authentic. Don't fake any of this because they'll [ __ ] smell that a mile off, but you want them to feel that loss. You want them to like, have you ever heard the song Breath of Heaven? Oh my god. It's one of my favorite Christmas songs, even though I'm not religious, but it's Mary basically saying, God, why have you given me this responsibility? I'm not ready for this. I'm just some chick.

Like, what are you doing? Like, this is wild. I feel completely overwhelmed. [ __ ] incredible song. incredible song. incredible song. If she could have that, like I am unworthy. I do not know why I was chosen. My husband was built for this. Uh but I understand what he means to the world. I understand what he means to you guys. I understand ultimately this isn't about me. This is about the mission. And I'm here to not only walk in the footsteps of my husband, but I'm here to clumsily try to walk in the footsteps of Jesus.

And it's like, oh [ __ ] Like now people like [ __ ] So, from a perspective of if she is she missing the tone? Yes. As an organization, do they have some [ __ ] weirdness? Yes. Now, have they maybe done exactly what I'm talking about a million times and this was like a run through and they're like, "Listen, you're going to be on a stage. Just stand on this. You get used to like the weirdness of like having all these eyes on." It could be something totally different. So, without more context, I can't tell you.

But the thing you would want to do at some point is that again coming from an entirely authentic place, channeling all of what I'm [snorts] sure is this intense weight that she feels and a fear of letting people down and all of that. And then can she pull it off and be authentic and do it? That's a totally different question. But that's how I would have tried to set this up. Velour, I'm I'm in a velour tinfoil sweatsuit right now. I am taped up. Top to bottom.

Netanyahu Top to bottom. Netanyahu offers to take TPUSA to the next level with $100 million contribution. Charlie refuses. Charlie says he's dropping Israel. Charlie gets neutralized. Erica Kirk announces Turning Point 2.0. Turning Turning Point USA brings in 250 million in contributions. TPUSA reaffirms reaffirms reaffirms from Israel. from Israel. from Israel. It reaffirms its support to Israel. Aha. Aha. Aha. All right. I mean, I broke up with people for less, bro. I broke up with people for less. I'm just in in a velour tinfoil suit. I gotta say, uh, yeah, that one's not ideal.

No, that doesn't look great. And then if this was a Geico commercial and then you hit back on me, now I'm in like velour parkas and I got like six of them on top of me and I got exclusive uh footage of um Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk when he came to visit her. Um Oh, snap. I haven't seen this. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, what are you playing? What is this? this? this? It's from Scary Movie. You never seen Scary Movie? The first one? Oh my goodness, it's so funny.

It's like a parody scary movie uh thing. So she It's like a Exorcist house, but it's a I Oh my god, Drew has just defiled the memory of Charlie Kirk. My apologies, everybody. I wondered what the punchline of that video is going to be. This was such a nice beautiful It was beautiful. Welcome to the hero's journey of my conspiracy. conspiracy. conspiracy. Oh my god. Um let's put a poll in the chat. What do you guys think is Turning Point USA inside job? Simple as that.

Was it an inside job? inside job? inside job? Nice blunt question. Yeah. Throw the poll up. Yes or no? Uh, and [snorts] we'll leave it at that. By the way, Chris, yes. No wonder his algorithm is weird. I do it for the show. That was the sacrifices that I made. All right. Uh, and then I had a couple quick hits. Um, Tim Dylan torched Sam Harris. Um, I thought this was hilarious. Um, so this is the first of my Friday funnies. Sam Harris, who runs a meditation app, but also believes that Israel should just bomb anyone at any time that it think it is hilarious to be a guy who runs a meditation app.

And he spends half the time telling people about breathing and how to self-actualize and the other half of the time telling people that we need to bomb as many children as humanly possible until Israel feels comfortable. That's just an interesting archetype of person. It just is. is. is. Okay, I want everybody right now to breathe. I want you to breathe in and out out out and just take a few deep breaths. What we need to do is indiscriminately bomb women and children. I want you to breathe in and out right now.

I want you to imagine an apartment complex. There's children playing soccer outside. Now it's gone. It's gone cuz there were bad people in it. Now they're all gone. Now it's rubble. And I know it's sad, but it's necessary. Collateral damage. I want you to say two words. Collateral damage. Collateral damage. Collateral damage. I've got to know. How does How does Tim Dylan do his show? Is he just alone in front of a camera? He has like Yeah, there's like a producer behind who like feeds on stuff, but him at a table and he goes he just goes for it.

He goes for it. That's That's wild. You you got to give props to Tim Dylan as a stand-up comic. He's also very thoughtful in fairness. Now I admittedly and I don't know that this is shared as Sam has called me out publicly but uh I really respect Sam. So I think he is very clear in terms of his thinking. Now again whenever somebody people often confuse I hate your argument for you're stupid. Sam is not stupid. So now if you can go okay Sam isn't dumb but Sam believes something that I consider morally reprehensible.

So what is it? What base assumption does Sam Harris build his argumentation on? Then if you take him right to that base assumption, now you can have a productive argument because we can actually argue on the thing that the rest of his worldview is built on. And so uh I unfortunately I've spoken for Sam in the past and he has said that uh I have not exactly nailed it. So I can only imagine that uh I have not accurately captured what Sam is thinking. But I imagine I'm sure erroneously that it goes something like uh uh uh Jews have been persecuted throughout history.

They needed to get a state of their own. They went back to their ancestral homeland. You have to be strong and protect yourself. You're going up against people that if Israel put down their arms, they would get slaughtered by immediately. If they put down their arms, uh there would be peace immediately. And so now if you want to go and attack that argument and say no, no, no, these are not people that want to destroy Israel, you're 100% incorrect about that. Uh or you could say, okay, even given that um even if those people would murder you the second you put down your weapons, you still have to have restraint as you go in.

Cool. Have the level have the argument at that level. Um but it really comes down to base assumptions drive the outcomes that people argue for. Mhm. And now often times, I don't think this is true in Sam's case, often times people's base assumptions are invisible to them. They don't even know they're making them. And so when you ask somebody why they believe something, it you get into fascinating territory because you just keep drilling them down to the point where it's like, what is the underlying value system, belief, whatever that you have that's built up on this?

Now, a thing that I have found very useful in conversations where you're really disagreeing with somebody, you otherwise love and respect them, but think that they're an absolute lunatic on something is to go, "Okay, for you to say that, I think the following thing has to be true." And then ask them, "Is that true? Is that what you believe?" And they'll usually say something along the lines of, "I mean, sort of, but that's not entirely it." And so I will then ask them, can you say in a single sentence exactly what belief you hold that you're building this on top of?

99.9 times out of 100, they can't do it, which means they don't understand their own argument. own argument. own argument. And so if you can help them identify like what that thing is, so the um phrase that I use is you understand my position perfectly. So I'm like I want to get to the point where I can say back to you this is what you believe and that's what your argument is built on. Now when you get to the point where they say yes you understand my position perfectly then the real discussion begins at that point what I found is oftentimes in coming to understand their position perfectly.

You usually go okay like I get it you're not a lunatic. I understand why you're now saying the things you're saying but I still vehemently disagree. And then can you articulate your single sentence of why you believe what you believe? And then it's just like, okay, well, we're not going to uh come to an agreement because each of these statements are either about how the world ought to be, or we both understand each other's interpretation of how the world actually is and we think the other person is just wrong, like the world isn't that way, and I have the data or whatever.

But you'll find out if the person is building their argument emotionally or if they actually have sound logic or if it's not logic, it's a value system. Like, you'll be able to figure out what they're doing. Now, as in full disclosure, disclosure, disclosure, usually when you run that kind of thing, that process, because people are acting emotionally and they don't know what their argument is built on, they feel like you're backing them into a corner and they get so [ __ ] suspicious and people start acting like absolutely insane.

Uh, but it re if you actually are asking not to trap them, but you are asking because you want to understand like I'm never going to be able to just internalize your emotional state. So, I have to know what you're queuing off of. In in the long arc of my marriage, that's been one of the most useful things on planet Earth. In the long arc of my companies, that's been one of the most useful things on planet Earth. But I'd be lying if I said I'm sure I've lost employees specifically because I run that and they [ __ ] hate it because I'm pulling them out of emotion and making them define things.

Uh and then I know there have been call it 20% of the time where I'll my wife and I will be doing that and she will just get infuriated because it's like she feels you're backing me into a corner and I'm like I'm not trying to back you into a corner. I'm just trying to understand what the [ __ ] is happening right now because this does not feel logical. I cannot I can't figure out what is happening. happening. happening. I thought you got triggered just that. Yeah.

So, well, I mean, I want to be honest about what those conversations are like because if people run home and they're like, "But Tom said this should work." And it's like they're both screaming at each other and freaking out. It's like you really do have to not approach it from the position of I want to be right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've got to approach it from the position of I want to understand. Like, I want to First of all, one thing I'll say to my wife is, "Hey, listen.

If we get to the ground truth and it doesn't feel right and you want to come back tomorrow and say that wasn't it." No problem. I'm really just trying to understand here. Uh so very useful. Anyway, if you drill down like that on Sam, he will be able to very clearly articulate why he thinks what he thinks. Now, it may be a value. It may it in fact, let's assume it's a value. And you don't share that value. Okay. Well, now we know we don't share a value system.

And so, we are both eternally going to look at each other like we're [ __ ] insane. But the rhetoric that I see, and this is not Tim Dylan at all, but the rhetoric that I so often see is Sam's just a [ __ ] It's like, for the love of God, Sam's not a [ __ ] And this will be a great opportunity for you to figure out what is our values collision. That's a really good play and that's a great way to put it. Um, we got itu coming up this week.

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