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Machines vs Free Weights | 5 Times Machines Are ACTUALLY BETTER | Mind Pump 2911

Don't view machines as inferior to free weights—use them strategically. When recovery is taxed (from sports, jiu-jitsu, or previous heavy lifts), machines provide muscle stimulus with less systemic fatigue. They allow you to maintain training volume without compromising recovery, making them invalua

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Don't view machines as inferior to free weights—use them strategically. When recovery is taxed (from sports, jiu-jitsu, or previous heavy lifts), machines provide muscle stimulus with less systemic fatigue. They allow you to maintain training volume without compromising recovery, making them invaluable tools for sustainable progress rather than second-class options.

Episode Overview

A discussion on the strategic use of machines versus free weights in strength training, debunking the notion that free weights are always superior. The hosts explore five specific scenarios where machines outperform free weights, including muscle isolation, recovery management, advanced training techniques, and movement patterns that can't be replicated with gravity-based resistance.

Main Insights

Machines Excel at Muscle Isolation for Bodybuilding and Corrective Exercise

Machines remove stability and balance requirements, making it easier to target specific muscles. This is valuable for bodybuilders sculpting their physiques and for corrective exercise when someone needs to learn a movement pattern without the complexity of free weight stabilization. Examples include using an abduction machine for lateral hip stability or cable machines for rear delt work.

Strategic Machine Use Preserves Recovery While Maintaining Volume

When recovery is limited—whether from sport training, previous workouts, or life stress—machines provide stimulus with significantly less systemic fatigue than free weights. A machine row at the same intensity as a barbell row requires less recovery, allowing you to maintain training frequency without accumulating excessive fatigue. This applies both to in-season athletes and to anyone managing workout-to-workout soreness.

Advanced Intensity Techniques Are Safer and More Practical with Machines

Drop sets, forced reps, negatives, and training to failure are all easier and safer to execute on machines. The fixed path and safety mechanisms mean you can push intensity without the mechanical breakdown or injury risk associated with free weights at failure. Moving a pin is faster than changing plates, and the machine won't fall on your head if you fail a rep.

Machines Enable Movement Patterns Impossible with Free Weights

Free weights fight gravity vertically, limiting movement patterns. Cables and machines allow resistance in any direction—diagonal, sideways, rotational, or opposing alternating movements. This is essential for training sport-specific patterns, rear delts, rotator cuffs, and explosive movements with pneumatic equipment that can't be mimicked with barbells or dumbbells.

Notable Quotes

"Machines offer you stimulus with less damage. So in that case, I could see them being valuable."

Sal

"When you're pushing your body because I'm training a particular way for a sport, let's say I'm doing a lot of jiu-jitsu or I'm playing football or basketball, I'm a cyclist or whatever, but I want to train certain movement patterns, but oh my god, my recovery is like limited. Machines offer you stimulus with less damage."

Sal

"When I'm using like a hammer strength chest press machine, I could stack a weight on there that I'm not sure I can get five reps in. And I could take it and at four, I mean, I can give that all I got and still remain with like perfect technique."

Adam

"I may as well add something to if I'm adding more volume to my legs in that workout—that'll be more machine-based that is going to be less taxing."

Adam

Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.

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    Assess Your Recovery Before Choosing Equipment

    Before each workout, evaluate how recovered you feel from previous training or other activities. If you're fresh, prioritize compound free weight movements. If you're still sore or recovery is compromised, substitute machines for the same movement patterns to maintain volume without excessive fatigue.

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    Use Machines for Isolation Work on Weak Points

    Identify muscles that lag in development or stability (like rear delts, rotator cuffs, or lateral hip stabilizers) and incorporate machine-based exercises that allow continuous tension throughout the full range of motion. This is especially effective for small muscles where free weights provide minimal resistance in certain positions.

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    Implement Advanced Techniques Safely on Machines

    When programming drop sets, forced reps, or training to failure, default to machines where you can maintain perfect form under extreme fatigue and quickly adjust resistance. This allows you to push intensity safely without the mechanical breakdown or injury risk of free weights at failure.

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    Match Equipment to Your Training Phase

    During off-season or strength-building phases, emphasize free weights for general strength development. During in-season or high-stress periods when practice/sport demands are high, shift more training volume to machines to support performance without exceeding recovery capacity.

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the old comparison free weights versus the old comparison free weights versus machines. Now, typically when this comes machines. Now, typically when this comes machines. Now, typically when this comes up, we lean towards free weights, but up, we lean towards free weights, but up, we lean towards free weights, but there are times when machines are there are times when machines are there are times when machines are better. It's true. better. It's true. better. It's true. >> Today, we're going to talk about the >> Today, we're going to talk about the >> Today, we're going to talk about the five times machines are better five times machines are better five times machines are better >> than free weights. >> than free weights. >> than free weights. >> I got two I got two off top of my head >> I got two I got two off top of my head >> I got two I got two off top of my head right away that come to mind, but I You right away that come to mind, but I You right away that come to mind, but I You got how many? got how many? got how many? >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> Five. >> I got five times when a machine can >> I got five times when a machine can >> I got five times when a machine can definitely be better. definitely be better. definitely be better. >> Two quick real quick. But five Skynet, >> Two quick real quick. But five Skynet, >> Two quick real quick. But five Skynet, huh? huh? huh? >> Yeah, that's what we're trying to do. >> Yeah, that's what we're trying to do. >> Yeah, that's what we're trying to do. Hopefully this goes out into the ether Hopefully this goes out into the ether Hopefully this goes out into the ether and when the AI take over, and when the AI take over, and when the AI take over, >> build up these machines. >> build up these machines. >> build up these machines. >> We should save him. He talked about how >> We should save him. He talked about how >> We should save him. He talked about how we were better. we were better. we were better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh no, so this is a good this is a good >> Uh no, so this is a good this is a good >> Uh no, so this is a good this is a good debate, right? Uh and now typically the debate, right? Uh and now typically the debate, right? Uh and now typically the position I don't necessarily like the position I don't necessarily like the position I don't necessarily like the way that this uh this comparison is um way that this uh this comparison is um way that this uh this comparison is um set up. Typically, it's typically like set up. Typically, it's typically like set up. Typically, it's typically like which one's better for building muscle, which one's better for building muscle, which one's better for building muscle, which one's better, and I get the which one's better, and I get the which one's better, and I get the specifics. Uh but overall, specifics. Uh but overall, specifics. Uh but overall, you know, when you compare them you know, when you compare them you know, when you compare them head-to-head and you look at the big head-to-head and you look at the big head-to-head and you look at the big picture, free weights tend to win. picture, free weights tend to win. picture, free weights tend to win. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Now, we've done this many times on the >> Now, we've done this many times on the >> Now, we've done this many times on the show, but there are cases where a show, but there are cases where a show, but there are cases where a machine does a better job. And I'll give machine does a better job. And I'll give machine does a better job. And I'll give you the first one. This is the obvious you the first one. This is the obvious you the first one. This is the obvious one. Uh and it's when you're trying to one. Uh and it's when you're trying to one. Uh and it's when you're trying to really isolate a muscle. Now, why would really isolate a muscle. Now, why would really isolate a muscle. Now, why would you want to isolate a muscle? There's you want to isolate a muscle? There's you want to isolate a muscle? There's two main reasons. Uh one is you're a two main reasons. Uh one is you're a two main reasons. Uh one is you're a bodybuilder. bodybuilder. bodybuilder. >> You're trying to sculpt your body. >> You're trying to sculpt your body. >> You're trying to sculpt your body. there's a specific like area you want to there's a specific like area you want to there's a specific like area you want to target and machines make it easier target and machines make it easier target and machines make it easier because it takes a lot of the stability because it takes a lot of the stability because it takes a lot of the stability and the balance out of it that that and the balance out of it that that and the balance out of it that that you're you're following a track, you're you're you're following a track, you're you're you're following a track, you're following the machine's movement. So, following the machine's movement. So, following the machine's movement. So, it's real easy for me to, you know, lack it's real easy for me to, you know, lack it's real easy for me to, you know, lack a better term because this doesn't a better term because this doesn't a better term because this doesn't really happen, but to disengage other really happen, but to disengage other really happen, but to disengage other muscles and just feel the target muscle. muscles and just feel the target muscle. muscles and just feel the target muscle. And this is why bodybuilders typically And this is why bodybuilders typically And this is why bodybuilders typically like machines. There's another reason like machines. There's another reason like machines. There's another reason why you might want to isolate a muscle. why you might want to isolate a muscle. why you might want to isolate a muscle. And this uh and maybe it's not And this uh and maybe it's not And this uh and maybe it's not necessarily isolating a muscle, maybe necessarily isolating a muscle, maybe necessarily isolating a muscle, maybe it's isolating a movement pattern. it's isolating a movement pattern. it's isolating a movement pattern. >> This is for correctional exercise. >> This is for correctional exercise. >> This is for correctional exercise. >> Uh in the case of correctional exercise, >> Uh in the case of correctional exercise, >> Uh in the case of correctional exercise, sometimes a free weight is just too sometimes a free weight is just too sometimes a free weight is just too difficult for the person to find the difficult for the person to find the difficult for the person to find the connection to and I can throw them on a connection to and I can throw them on a connection to and I can throw them on a machine machine machine >> stability emphasis and this kind of >> stability emphasis and this kind of >> stability emphasis and this kind of helps to kind of take that down a bit helps to kind of take that down a bit helps to kind of take that down a bit and give you just like that single focus and give you just like that single focus and give you just like that single focus track. track. track. >> 100% 100%. Good example of this would be >> 100% 100%. Good example of this would be >> 100% 100%. Good example of this would be like uh lateral stability of the hips. like uh lateral stability of the hips. like uh lateral stability of the hips. And there's lots of things involved with And there's lots of things involved with And there's lots of things involved with lateral stability. But sometimes it's so lateral stability. But sometimes it's so lateral stability. But sometimes it's so bad that I would take a client and I bad that I would take a client and I bad that I would take a client and I would try to lateral sled drag or two would try to lateral sled drag or two would try to lateral sled drag or two block. And I'm looking at their block. And I'm looking at their block. And I'm looking at their technique. I'm like, this is just not technique. I'm like, this is just not technique. I'm like, this is just not like this is just not happening. like this is just not happening. like this is just not happening. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um and I'd sit them down on a machine >> Um and I'd sit them down on a machine >> Um and I'd sit them down on a machine that often times I would say is useless. that often times I would say is useless. that often times I would say is useless. Uh like abduction machine. And just cuz Uh like abduction machine. And just cuz Uh like abduction machine. And just cuz the only way the machine can move is the only way the machine can move is the only way the machine can move is out. They'd sit down, press out. We out. They'd sit down, press out. We out. They'd sit down, press out. We would start there. I'd build a little would start there. I'd build a little would start there. I'd build a little strength, then I'd move on uh to the strength, then I'd move on uh to the strength, then I'd move on uh to the other movements. other movements. other movements. >> Rotator cuff would be another example. >> Rotator cuff would be another example. >> Rotator cuff would be another example. Yeah. So, I mean, how often do you like Yeah. So, I mean, how often do you like Yeah. So, I mean, how often do you like because you know that stuff's all because you know that stuff's all because you know that stuff's all getting worked in a shoulder press, but getting worked in a shoulder press, but getting worked in a shoulder press, but a lot of times you will, a lot of times you will, a lot of times you will, >> you know, you'll prime that before you >> you know, you'll prime that before you >> you know, you'll prime that before you go into like a pressing movement. It's go into like a pressing movement. It's go into like a pressing movement. It's for me, that's a that's a staple go-to for me, that's a that's a staple go-to for me, that's a that's a staple go-to that I isolate. When I was teaching uh that I isolate. When I was teaching uh that I isolate. When I was teaching uh back in the day on how to pack your back in the day on how to pack your back in the day on how to pack your shoulder while pressing, it's not shoulder while pressing, it's not shoulder while pressing, it's not necessarily necessary for pressing, but necessarily necessary for pressing, but necessarily necessary for pressing, but this is a good way to separate scapular this is a good way to separate scapular this is a good way to separate scapular elevation from, you know, you be able to elevation from, you know, you be able to elevation from, you know, you be able to move the humorus up in this kind of move the humorus up in this kind of move the humorus up in this kind of overhead press position. Technically, overhead press position. Technically, overhead press position. Technically, what I'm I'm basically trying to explain what I'm I'm basically trying to explain what I'm I'm basically trying to explain is there two movements. Sometimes it's is there two movements. Sometimes it's is there two movements. Sometimes it's good to separate the two. And um kettle good to separate the two. And um kettle good to separate the two. And um kettle bell practitioners will call like bell practitioners will call like bell practitioners will call like packing the shoulder, right? That's a packing the shoulder, right? That's a packing the shoulder, right? That's a term. term. term. >> Machine overhead press makes it easy cuz >> Machine overhead press makes it easy cuz >> Machine overhead press makes it easy cuz I can like push this down. It's really I can like push this down. It's really I can like push this down. It's really for stability reasons, right? When you for stability reasons, right? When you for stability reasons, right? When you have any substantial amount of load over have any substantial amount of load over have any substantial amount of load over your head, like if you're not engaging your head, like if you're not engaging your head, like if you're not engaging and keeping a all that stress like and keeping a all that stress like and keeping a all that stress like they're more in your back and allowing they're more in your back and allowing they're more in your back and allowing your back to take along the force, it's your back to take along the force, it's your back to take along the force, it's like it's leaving you kind of vulnerable like it's leaving you kind of vulnerable like it's leaving you kind of vulnerable up there. up there. up there. >> That's right. That's right. So, I'm >> That's right. That's right. So, I'm >> That's right. That's right. So, I'm trying to isolate something. Machines trying to isolate something. Machines trying to isolate something. Machines take out a lot of the other take out a lot of the other take out a lot of the other >> uh components. Uh because you're >> uh components. Uh because you're >> uh components. Uh because you're following a track, uh the handle is set, following a track, uh the handle is set, following a track, uh the handle is set, you just move. you just move. you just move. >> Those are probably the two most common I >> Those are probably the two most common I >> Those are probably the two most common I would think. Yes. Like I think that that would think. Yes. Like I think that that would think. Yes. Like I think that that like when it came to my mind right away, like when it came to my mind right away, like when it came to my mind right away, I was thinking of corrective stuff or uh I was thinking of corrective stuff or uh I was thinking of corrective stuff or uh bodybuilders. I mean that's like those bodybuilders. I mean that's like those bodybuilders. I mean that's like those are two go to which by the way too are two go to which by the way too are two go to which by the way too >> those are the most common ones by far. >> those are the most common ones by far. >> those are the most common ones by far. >> This is also why >> This is also why >> This is also why >> um there's I think such a big argument >> um there's I think such a big argument >> um there's I think such a big argument around this is because the the around this is because the the around this is because the the bodybuilding space especially on bodybuilding space especially on bodybuilding space especially on Instagram and online is so popular. Instagram and online is so popular. Instagram and online is so popular. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh that I think it >> Uh that I think it >> Uh that I think it >> it's our most push back I would say. >> it's our most push back I would say. >> it's our most push back I would say. >> Yeah. So it gets uh so much argument for >> Yeah. So it gets uh so much argument for >> Yeah. So it gets uh so much argument for hypertrophy uh and sculpting the body uh hypertrophy uh and sculpting the body uh hypertrophy uh and sculpting the body uh and a lot of people identify with that and a lot of people identify with that and a lot of people identify with that and so I think that why we've always and so I think that why we've always and so I think that why we've always taken a counterposition of of free taken a counterposition of of free taken a counterposition of of free weight so much is because there's so weight so much is because there's so weight so much is because there's so much value to free weights and we do much value to free weights and we do much value to free weights and we do think it's superior. It doesn't mean think it's superior. It doesn't mean think it's superior. It doesn't mean that there's not tremendous value in the that there's not tremendous value in the that there's not tremendous value in the machines but I think part of the reason machines but I think part of the reason machines but I think part of the reason why we've taken the other position for why we've taken the other position for why we've taken the other position for so long so strongly is because I think so long so strongly is because I think so long so strongly is because I think it's been dominated on the other side. it's been dominated on the other side. it's been dominated on the other side. Yeah, I think so because we could see Yeah, I think so because we could see Yeah, I think so because we could see value in what they're trying to argue a value in what they're trying to argue a value in what they're trying to argue a lot of times because it's like they're lot of times because it's like they're lot of times because it's like they're they're trying to, you know, bring more they're trying to, you know, bring more they're trying to, you know, bring more people in. And it's like sometimes like people in. And it's like sometimes like people in. And it's like sometimes like you don't need to do this the hard thing you don't need to do this the hard thing you don't need to do this the hard thing all the time like if you're just trying all the time like if you're just trying all the time like if you're just trying to express muscle contraction and build to express muscle contraction and build to express muscle contraction and build up strength and it's like up strength and it's like up strength and it's like >> you know ease of access and and >> you know ease of access and and >> you know ease of access and and introduction. Uh but in terms of value introduction. Uh but in terms of value introduction. Uh but in terms of value and what you're actually like you know and what you're actually like you know and what you're actually like you know what's going to get you the furthest in what's going to get you the furthest in what's going to get you the furthest in terms of progress and actually getting terms of progress and actually getting terms of progress and actually getting you towards your goal like free weights you towards your goal like free weights you towards your goal like free weights you know just trump it. you know just trump it. you know just trump it. >> Yeah. So, and now here's another one, >> Yeah. So, and now here's another one, >> Yeah. So, and now here's another one, and this one's coming to me now just and this one's coming to me now just and this one's coming to me now just because now I'm starting to train uh because now I'm starting to train uh because now I'm starting to train uh differently, and um I was thinking about differently, and um I was thinking about differently, and um I was thinking about this, and this makes a lot of sense, and this, and this makes a lot of sense, and this, and this makes a lot of sense, and that is machines can be very valuable that is machines can be very valuable that is machines can be very valuable when you're kind of redlining recovery when you're kind of redlining recovery when you're kind of redlining recovery because of a sport or something else because of a sport or something else because of a sport or something else that you're doing. So, so here's the that you're doing. So, so here's the that you're doing. So, so here's the argument for free weights and then I'll argument for free weights and then I'll argument for free weights and then I'll argue why machines in some cases might argue why machines in some cases might argue why machines in some cases might be better, right? So, in a strength be better, right? So, in a strength be better, right? So, in a strength phase, I'm off season. I am training phase, I'm off season. I am training phase, I'm off season. I am training offseason. I'm not doing a lot of offseason. I'm not doing a lot of offseason. I'm not doing a lot of practice of my sport. I've got a couple practice of my sport. I've got a couple practice of my sport. I've got a couple months here. I'm trying to build maximal months here. I'm trying to build maximal months here. I'm trying to build maximal strength. I'm trying to have the strength. I'm trying to have the strength. I'm trying to have the strength translate to the field. Free strength translate to the field. Free strength translate to the field. Free weights are great. They're great. Uh weights are great. They're great. Uh weights are great. They're great. Uh handling weight that's not stable is handling weight that's not stable is handling weight that's not stable is more like real life. more like real life. more like real life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Than handling a very stable weight. A >> Than handling a very stable weight. A >> Than handling a very stable weight. A barbell squat is going to give me way barbell squat is going to give me way barbell squat is going to give me way more carryover uh on the field than more carryover uh on the field than more carryover uh on the field than let's say a hack squat on a sled. let's say a hack squat on a sled. let's say a hack squat on a sled. >> But what about when I'm in season? What >> But what about when I'm in season? What >> But what about when I'm in season? What about when I'm I'm practicing expressing about when I'm I'm practicing expressing about when I'm I'm practicing expressing movement in season? So, a lot of movement in season? So, a lot of movement in season? So, a lot of whatever strength I build or maintain, whatever strength I build or maintain, whatever strength I build or maintain, it's going to translate and and it's it's going to translate and and it's it's going to translate and and it's going to carry over to the field because going to carry over to the field because going to carry over to the field because I'm practicing so much. Plus, the I'm practicing so much. Plus, the I'm practicing so much. Plus, the practice is beating me up. When you're practice is beating me up. When you're practice is beating me up. When you're in season, you're training, you're in season, you're training, you're in season, you're training, you're practicing, a lot of your recovery is practicing, a lot of your recovery is practicing, a lot of your recovery is there. The strength training is just to there. The strength training is just to there. The strength training is just to support. It's not the the main focus. support. It's not the the main focus. support. It's not the the main focus. Unless you're a bodybuilder or a Unless you're a bodybuilder or a Unless you're a bodybuilder or a powerlifter, the strength training is powerlifter, the strength training is powerlifter, the strength training is the secondary or even third role. The the secondary or even third role. The the secondary or even third role. The first uh you know, main role is the first uh you know, main role is the first uh you know, main role is the sport and the practice. Well, machines sport and the practice. Well, machines sport and the practice. Well, machines may be valuable because they just don't may be valuable because they just don't may be valuable because they just don't beat you up. They just simply don't. beat you up. They just simply don't. beat you up. They just simply don't. Like barbell row is Like barbell row is Like barbell row is [snorts and clears throat] going to [snorts and clears throat] going to [snorts and clears throat] going to hammer me more at the same intensity and hammer me more at the same intensity and hammer me more at the same intensity and require more recovery at the same require more recovery at the same require more recovery at the same intensity as a machine row. intensity as a machine row. intensity as a machine row. >> It just is. So, if I'm pushing my body >> It just is. So, if I'm pushing my body >> It just is. So, if I'm pushing my body because I'm training a particular way because I'm training a particular way because I'm training a particular way for a sport, let's say I'm doing a lot for a sport, let's say I'm doing a lot for a sport, let's say I'm doing a lot of like right now jiu-jitsu or I'm of like right now jiu-jitsu or I'm of like right now jiu-jitsu or I'm playing football or or basketball, I'm a playing football or or basketball, I'm a playing football or or basketball, I'm a cyclist or whatever, but I want to train cyclist or whatever, but I want to train cyclist or whatever, but I want to train certain movement patterns, but oh my certain movement patterns, but oh my certain movement patterns, but oh my god, my recovery is like limited. uh god, my recovery is like limited. uh god, my recovery is like limited. uh machines offer you stimulus with less machines offer you stimulus with less machines offer you stimulus with less damage. Uh so in that case I I could see damage. Uh so in that case I I could see damage. Uh so in that case I I could see him being him being him being >> well I'll make the argument uh even not >> well I'll make the argument uh even not >> well I'll make the argument uh even not playing a sport staying in that recovery playing a sport staying in that recovery playing a sport staying in that recovery vein right that you're talking about vein right that you're talking about vein right that you're talking about right now. Uh I [ __ ] I just used this right now. Uh I [ __ ] I just used this right now. Uh I [ __ ] I just used this with uh Karen yesterday. Um she's with uh Karen yesterday. Um she's with uh Karen yesterday. Um she's messaging me giving me her weekly messaging me giving me her weekly messaging me giving me her weekly updates and uh she's like I got I got updates and uh she's like I got I got updates and uh she's like I got I got squats today. Do you do you prefer if I squats today. Do you do you prefer if I squats today. Do you do you prefer if I do barbell back squats or I do hack do barbell back squats or I do hack do barbell back squats or I do hack squat? Um my response to her was how do squat? Um my response to her was how do squat? Um my response to her was how do you feel? you feel? you feel? >> Yeah. If you feel fresh and good, get >> Yeah. If you feel fresh and good, get >> Yeah. If you feel fresh and good, get after that barbell squat. But if you I after that barbell squat. But if you I after that barbell squat. But if you I said, if you feel still a little sore said, if you feel still a little sore said, if you feel still a little sore from your last workout, go ahead, do from your last workout, go ahead, do from your last workout, go ahead, do half squat. That's not a big that's half squat. That's not a big that's half squat. That's not a big that's that's great. It's not It's not like that's great. It's not It's not like that's great. It's not It's not like this huge lesser lift. But I know it's this huge lesser lift. But I know it's this huge lesser lift. But I know it's less taxing on the body when you are. less taxing on the body when you are. less taxing on the body when you are. So, and this is how I use machines a So, and this is how I use machines a So, and this is how I use machines a lot. A lot of times machines will make lot. A lot of times machines will make lot. A lot of times machines will make their way into my routine even when it's their way into my routine even when it's their way into my routine even when it's unplanned because yesterday or the day unplanned because yesterday or the day unplanned because yesterday or the day before I, you know, overreached or I, before I, you know, overreached or I, before I, you know, overreached or I, you know, pushed a little bit heavier on you know, pushed a little bit heavier on you know, pushed a little bit heavier on weight and I'm still my hips and legs weight and I'm still my hips and legs weight and I'm still my hips and legs are still talking to me a little bit and are still talking to me a little bit and are still talking to me a little bit and it's back to legs again and, you know, I it's back to legs again and, you know, I it's back to legs again and, you know, I I pushed it pretty hard on say, you I pushed it pretty hard on say, you I pushed it pretty hard on say, you know, Monday, two days ago or whatever know, Monday, two days ago or whatever know, Monday, two days ago or whatever it was. And so, uh, you know, today it was. And so, uh, you know, today it was. And so, uh, you know, today maybe I'm going to do leg press. Maybe maybe I'm going to do leg press. Maybe maybe I'm going to do leg press. Maybe I'm going to do an exercise or a machine I'm going to do an exercise or a machine I'm going to do an exercise or a machine that I would say is a lesser, uh, you that I would say is a lesser, uh, you that I would say is a lesser, uh, you know, movement in comparison as far as know, movement in comparison as far as know, movement in comparison as far as biggest bang for your buck cuz I don't biggest bang for your buck cuz I don't biggest bang for your buck cuz I don't always need that. And so, and I'm not always need that. And so, and I'm not always need that. And so, and I'm not playing a sport. And so, I think staying playing a sport. And so, I think staying playing a sport. And so, I think staying along the lines of the like your along the lines of the like your along the lines of the like your recovery point recovery point recovery point >> is of obviously when you're playing a >> is of obviously when you're playing a >> is of obviously when you're playing a sport that makes a lot of sense. But sport that makes a lot of sense. But sport that makes a lot of sense. But even when you're not playing a sport and even when you're not playing a sport and even when you're not playing a sport and you typically have a week and I think a you typically have a week and I think a you typically have a week and I think a lot of people have this uh in a week lot of people have this uh in a week lot of people have this uh in a week like some workouts you just get after a like some workouts you just get after a like some workouts you just get after a little more than other workouts and when little more than other workouts and when little more than other workouts and when you head into the work when you're going you head into the work when you're going you head into the work when you're going back to that muscle group sometimes back to that muscle group sometimes back to that muscle group sometimes you're still taxed a little bit from you're still taxed a little bit from you're still taxed a little bit from that previous other times you're not. that previous other times you're not. that previous other times you're not. Maybe you got an extra day of rest maybe Maybe you got an extra day of rest maybe Maybe you got an extra day of rest maybe you were well f well fed slept you you were well f well fed slept you you were well f well fed slept you didn't overreach the last workout and didn't overreach the last workout and didn't overreach the last workout and you feel fresh then I'm going to push you feel fresh then I'm going to push you feel fresh then I'm going to push you barbell. you barbell. you barbell. >> Yeah. What's so in and you know back to >> Yeah. What's so in and you know back to >> Yeah. What's so in and you know back to you know while you're training like uh you know while you're training like uh you know while you're training like uh you know again I just started getting you know again I just started getting you know again I just started getting into Brazilian jiu-jitsu so this is top into Brazilian jiu-jitsu so this is top into Brazilian jiu-jitsu so this is top this is just top of mind for me. It's this is just top of mind for me. It's this is just top of mind for me. It's like the strength that I build in the like the strength that I build in the like the strength that I build in the gym uh I really want it to translate to gym uh I really want it to translate to gym uh I really want it to translate to jiu-jitsu. Now does that mean I mimic jiu-jitsu. Now does that mean I mimic jiu-jitsu. Now does that mean I mimic all the jiu-jitsu moves in the gym? No. all the jiu-jitsu moves in the gym? No. all the jiu-jitsu moves in the gym? No. That's actually a mistake a lot of That's actually a mistake a lot of That's actually a mistake a lot of athletes make. athletes make. athletes make. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> With their training trying to copy their >> With their training trying to copy their >> With their training trying to copy their sport sport sport >> in the gym. No. What I'm looking for is >> in the gym. No. What I'm looking for is >> in the gym. No. What I'm looking for is general strength in the gym. And then general strength in the gym. And then general strength in the gym. And then what I'm doing is I'm practicing what I'm doing is I'm practicing what I'm doing is I'm practicing jiu-jitsu. And this is what uh jiu-jitsu. And this is what uh jiu-jitsu. And this is what uh integrates strength into the technique. integrates strength into the technique. integrates strength into the technique. It's very specific, right? You can't It's very specific, right? You can't It's very specific, right? You can't really mimic a sport with you could do really mimic a sport with you could do really mimic a sport with you could do your best to do so, but it's not the your best to do so, but it's not the your best to do so, but it's not the same thing. So, while I'm doing this, same thing. So, while I'm doing this, same thing. So, while I'm doing this, I'm like, uh, you know, I'm already I'm like, uh, you know, I'm already I'm like, uh, you know, I'm already going to be training anyway. I'm going going to be training anyway. I'm going going to be training anyway. I'm going to be integrating strength anyway. I'm to be integrating strength anyway. I'm to be integrating strength anyway. I'm going to pick right now, just cuz right going to pick right now, just cuz right going to pick right now, just cuz right now my my recovery is being challenged. now my my recovery is being challenged. now my my recovery is being challenged. I'm going to pick the strength train I'm going to pick the strength train I'm going to pick the strength train that's less damaging. And it's just the that's less damaging. And it's just the that's less damaging. And it's just the fact you guys do a standing overhead fact you guys do a standing overhead fact you guys do a standing overhead press to failure. Do a seated machine press to failure. Do a seated machine press to failure. Do a seated machine press to failure. both high intensity, press to failure. both high intensity, press to failure. both high intensity, both to failure. For sure, the standing both to failure. For sure, the standing both to failure. For sure, the standing overhead press fatigues you more for t overhead press fatigues you more for t overhead press fatigues you more for t for for sure. for for sure. for for sure. >> It requires more uh recovery uh before >> It requires more uh recovery uh before >> It requires more uh recovery uh before you can adapt. And so machines just you can adapt. And so machines just you can adapt. And so machines just provide that. And then what you're provide that. And then what you're provide that. And then what you're saying, Adam, is really just uh machines saying, Adam, is really just uh machines saying, Adam, is really just uh machines can be a great way to even add extra can be a great way to even add extra can be a great way to even add extra volume. volume. volume. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When you're trying to add extra volume >> When you're trying to add extra volume >> When you're trying to add extra volume and you're trying to play that game of, and you're trying to play that game of, and you're trying to play that game of, well, I do my core lifts as the free well, I do my core lifts as the free well, I do my core lifts as the free weights. I want to add extra volume. I weights. I want to add extra volume. I weights. I want to add extra volume. I don't know if I could just add more sets don't know if I could just add more sets don't know if I could just add more sets of what I'm currently doing because that of what I'm currently doing because that of what I'm currently doing because that might beat me up a little bit. let me go might beat me up a little bit. let me go might beat me up a little bit. let me go use a few machines and see how I feel. use a few machines and see how I feel. use a few machines and see how I feel. Easy way to add extra volume without Easy way to add extra volume without Easy way to add extra volume without taxing your body. taxing your body. taxing your body. >> Well, especially at emphasis on >> Well, especially at emphasis on >> Well, especially at emphasis on specific, you know, muscle groups. Like specific, you know, muscle groups. Like specific, you know, muscle groups. Like I I love doing that if just do the the I I love doing that if just do the the I I love doing that if just do the the broad lifts and get, you know, the broad lifts and get, you know, the broad lifts and get, you know, the overhead press, the bench press, the overhead press, the bench press, the overhead press, the bench press, the squat, the deadlift, but then, you know, squat, the deadlift, but then, you know, squat, the deadlift, but then, you know, if if I want to put emphasis on certain if if I want to put emphasis on certain if if I want to put emphasis on certain muscle groups like to add in for, you muscle groups like to add in for, you muscle groups like to add in for, you know, volume where I'm not it's not know, volume where I'm not it's not know, volume where I'm not it's not super taxing, but I know that I'm, you super taxing, but I know that I'm, you super taxing, but I know that I'm, you know, getting them more stimulus, it's a know, getting them more stimulus, it's a know, getting them more stimulus, it's a great way to do that. great way to do that. great way to do that. >> Well, especially in the same workout. >> Well, especially in the same workout. >> Well, especially in the same workout. This is what I feel like. Like I'm not This is what I feel like. Like I'm not This is what I feel like. Like I'm not going to go do uh going to go do uh going to go do uh >> especially in the same workout. >> especially in the same workout. >> especially in the same workout. >> Yeah. Especially in the same workout. >> Yeah. Especially in the same workout. >> Yeah. Especially in the same workout. Like I'm not going to This is part of Like I'm not going to This is part of Like I'm not going to This is part of the reason why I wouldn't squat and the reason why I wouldn't squat and the reason why I wouldn't squat and deadlift in the same workout. [laughter] deadlift in the same workout. [laughter] deadlift in the same workout. [laughter] >> Um is it possible? Of course you can. >> Um is it possible? Of course you can. >> Um is it possible? Of course you can. You totally can. You totally can. You totally can. >> But if I give it everything I got in >> But if I give it everything I got in >> But if I give it everything I got in either one of those first, uh the the either one of those first, uh the the either one of those first, uh the the second one is just going to second one is just going to second one is just going to >> danger level goes up. >> danger level goes up. >> danger level goes up. >> Yeah. Danger level goes up. I'm >> Yeah. Danger level goes up. I'm >> Yeah. Danger level goes up. I'm definitely going to be probably overly definitely going to be probably overly definitely going to be probably overly sore. um I'm probably mechanically I'm sore. um I'm probably mechanically I'm sore. um I'm probably mechanically I'm not going to be as sound as I as as I am not going to be as sound as I as as I am not going to be as sound as I as as I am when I'm fresh going into it. And so when I'm fresh going into it. And so when I'm fresh going into it. And so it's like and I'm just overreaching. So it's like and I'm just overreaching. So it's like and I'm just overreaching. So I may as well add something to if I'm I may as well add something to if I'm I may as well add something to if I'm adding more volume to my my legs in that adding more volume to my my legs in that adding more volume to my my legs in that like that'll be more machine-based like that'll be more machine-based like that'll be more machine-based uh that is going to be less taxing. And uh that is going to be less taxing. And uh that is going to be less taxing. And so in the same I can see that in both so in the same I can see that in both so in the same I can see that in both cases both in the same workout and kind cases both in the same workout and kind cases both in the same workout and kind of the scenario I gave where it's right of the scenario I gave where it's right of the scenario I gave where it's right >> two days later and you're still kind of >> two days later and you're still kind of >> two days later and you're still kind of sore. sore. sore. >> Exactly. Uh, another point is uh >> Exactly. Uh, another point is uh >> Exactly. Uh, another point is uh advanced intensity techniques uh are advanced intensity techniques uh are advanced intensity techniques uh are just easier and safer with machines. just easier and safer with machines. just easier and safer with machines. I'll use a simple silly example. Okay. I'll use a simple silly example. Okay. I'll use a simple silly example. Okay. >> Drop set. >> Drop set. >> Drop set. >> Yeah. You're going to do a strip set. So >> Yeah. You're going to do a strip set. So >> Yeah. You're going to do a strip set. So strip set is strip set is strip set is >> uh you know I do as many as I can with a >> uh you know I do as many as I can with a >> uh you know I do as many as I can with a certain weight. Take some weight off. Do certain weight. Take some weight off. Do certain weight. Take some weight off. Do some more. Take some weight off. Do some some more. Take some weight off. Do some some more. Take some weight off. Do some more. So on. So I'm trying to train more. So on. So I'm trying to train more. So on. So I'm trying to train strength endurance. Really easy with a strength endurance. Really easy with a strength endurance. Really easy with a machine you guys. Really easy. I just machine you guys. Really easy. I just machine you guys. Really easy. I just move the pin. I stay seated or whatever. move the pin. I stay seated or whatever. move the pin. I stay seated or whatever. Move the pin. Move the pin. Move the Move the pin. Move the pin. Move the Move the pin. Move the pin. Move the pin. with with free weights. Either it pin. with with free weights. Either it pin. with with free weights. Either it requires you to have 15 pairs of requires you to have 15 pairs of requires you to have 15 pairs of dumbbells. dumbbells. dumbbells. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Or you got to get out and unload the >> Or you got to get out and unload the >> Or you got to get out and unload the barbell each side and you got to load it barbell each side and you got to load it barbell each side and you got to load it with small plates in order to make the with small plates in order to make the with small plates in order to make the the you know the weight increments uh the you know the weight increments uh the you know the weight increments uh work or have a bunch of partners. work or have a bunch of partners. work or have a bunch of partners. >> It's just not convenient. Uh doesn't >> It's just not convenient. Uh doesn't >> It's just not convenient. Uh doesn't work very well. But with machines, it work very well. But with machines, it work very well. But with machines, it works really well. Machines work really works really well. Machines work really works really well. Machines work really good with like forced negatives and and good with like forced negatives and and good with like forced negatives and and forced reps if you have a a training forced reps if you have a a training forced reps if you have a a training partner. Partials. Why? Because the partner. Partials. Why? Because the partner. Partials. Why? Because the machine's there. machine's there. machine's there. >> You know, I'm not going to drop the >> You know, I'm not going to drop the >> You know, I'm not going to drop the barbell in my head. Uh the machine barbell in my head. Uh the machine barbell in my head. Uh the machine though, if I fail and it's too intense, though, if I fail and it's too intense, though, if I fail and it's too intense, like cool, I'm I'm still [snorts] safe. like cool, I'm I'm still [snorts] safe. like cool, I'm I'm still [snorts] safe. >> I'm this I actually I probably take more >> I'm this I actually I probably take more >> I'm this I actually I probably take more uh cuz we we're big on not training to uh cuz we we're big on not training to uh cuz we we're big on not training to failure. Uh but I if I train to failure, failure. Uh but I if I train to failure, failure. Uh but I if I train to failure, it's going to be on a machine. it's going to be on a machine. it's going to be on a machine. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Rarely ever. In fact, I can't even >> Rarely ever. In fact, I can't even >> Rarely ever. In fact, I can't even recall the last time I took a, recall the last time I took a, recall the last time I took a, >> you know, a barbell movement. It's been >> you know, a barbell movement. It's been >> you know, a barbell movement. It's been a long time since I've taken that to a a a long time since I've taken that to a a a long time since I've taken that to a a failure set. Uh, and not that there's failure set. Uh, and not that there's failure set. Uh, and not that there's not value in it because I guarantee not value in it because I guarantee not value in it because I guarantee there's someone who's freaking out right there's someone who's freaking out right there's someone who's freaking out right now that's like, "Oh my god, there's now that's like, "Oh my god, there's now that's like, "Oh my god, there's Yeah, there is. But when you're on a Yeah, there is. But when you're on a Yeah, there is. But when you're on a machine, I can be so strict with like, machine, I can be so strict with like, machine, I can be so strict with like, let's say I'm using like a hammer let's say I'm using like a hammer let's say I'm using like a hammer strength chest press machine." strength chest press machine." strength chest press machine." >> Uh, and I could stack a weight on there >> Uh, and I could stack a weight on there >> Uh, and I could stack a weight on there that I'm not sure I can get five reps that I'm not sure I can get five reps that I'm not sure I can get five reps in. And I could take it and at four, I in. And I could take it and at four, I in. And I could take it and at four, I mean, I can give that all I got and mean, I can give that all I got and mean, I can give that all I got and still remain with like perfect still remain with like perfect still remain with like perfect technique. technique. technique. >> The handles are going to stay in the >> The handles are going to stay in the >> The handles are going to stay in the same place. same place. same place. >> Yeah. And then let it go and then it >> Yeah. And then let it go and then it >> Yeah. And then let it go and then it drops back on the rubber stoppers. and drops back on the rubber stoppers. and drops back on the rubber stoppers. and I've taken it right to failure, I've taken it right to failure, I've taken it right to failure, mechanically perfect. Or when you got mechanically perfect. Or when you got mechanically perfect. Or when you got like a barbell that you're trying to like a barbell that you're trying to like a barbell that you're trying to stabilize and you're also pushing to a stabilize and you're also pushing to a stabilize and you're also pushing to a PR limit, very difficult to not allow PR limit, very difficult to not allow PR limit, very difficult to not allow that shoulder to slightly roll forward that shoulder to slightly roll forward that shoulder to slightly roll forward or the back to arch or to do something or the back to arch or to do something or the back to arch or to do something uh that's not perfectly sound where with uh that's not perfectly sound where with uh that's not perfectly sound where with a machine with a machine, I can have a machine with a machine, I can have a machine with a machine, I can have perfect sound form and and then take it perfect sound form and and then take it perfect sound form and and then take it right up to that edge and then stop. right up to that edge and then stop. right up to that edge and then stop. Totally. And I think that's probably Totally. And I think that's probably Totally. And I think that's probably where I used failure training more often where I used failure training more often where I used failure training more often than not than not than not >> even with a workout partner because >> even with a workout partner because >> even with a workout partner because someone's like, "Well, we just use a someone's like, "Well, we just use a someone's like, "Well, we just use a partner with free weights if you're partner with free weights if you're partner with free weights if you're gonna do that, which is true. That's gonna do that, which is true. That's gonna do that, which is true. That's totally true. But totally true. But totally true. But >> how about like you ever try doing >> how about like you ever try doing >> how about like you ever try doing negatives with free weights?" Doesn't negatives with free weights?" Doesn't negatives with free weights?" Doesn't work. Hey buddy, lift this weight off me work. Hey buddy, lift this weight off me work. Hey buddy, lift this weight off me and then let me lower it and then help and then let me lower it and then help and then let me lower it and then help me pick it up. Like you're dead, right? me pick it up. Like you're dead, right? me pick it up. Like you're dead, right? >> With a machine, it's real easy for your >> With a machine, it's real easy for your >> With a machine, it's real easy for your buddy to help push the handles forward buddy to help push the handles forward buddy to help push the handles forward and then you slowly lower. Or really and then you slowly lower. Or really and then you slowly lower. Or really hard intense isometric where someone hard intense isometric where someone hard intense isometric where someone gets in position, then you just got to gets in position, then you just got to gets in position, then you just got to hold it in position. all the intensity hold it in position. all the intensity hold it in position. all the intensity techniques that I can think about, most techniques that I can think about, most techniques that I can think about, most of them I should say, uh are easier to of them I should say, uh are easier to of them I should say, uh are easier to do, uh risk, with much lower risk. do, uh risk, with much lower risk. do, uh risk, with much lower risk. >> And then lastly, this is an obvious one. >> And then lastly, this is an obvious one. >> And then lastly, this is an obvious one. Um when when I say it, it will be Um when when I say it, it will be Um when when I say it, it will be obvious. obvious. obvious. >> Sometimes certain movement patterns or >> Sometimes certain movement patterns or >> Sometimes certain movement patterns or skills, you can't really train with free skills, you can't really train with free skills, you can't really train with free weights because free weights free weights because free weights free weights because free weights free weights fight gravity. So, the weights fight gravity. So, the weights fight gravity. So, the resistance is going down. Uh but when I resistance is going down. Uh but when I resistance is going down. Uh but when I use cables and machines, the resistance use cables and machines, the resistance use cables and machines, the resistance can go any direction I want. I could go can go any direction I want. I could go can go any direction I want. I could go up diagonally. I could go sideways. I up diagonally. I could go sideways. I up diagonally. I could go sideways. I could go sideways down. I could do could go sideways down. I could do could go sideways down. I could do opposing alternating. I could pull one opposing alternating. I could pull one opposing alternating. I could pull one handle while pushing another handle at handle while pushing another handle at handle while pushing another handle at the same time. the same time. the same time. >> Uh I can use pneumatic equipment. Uh >> Uh I can use pneumatic equipment. Uh >> Uh I can use pneumatic equipment. Uh which a lot of gyms don't have this, but which a lot of gyms don't have this, but which a lot of gyms don't have this, but pneumatic equipment for explosive. pneumatic equipment for explosive. pneumatic equipment for explosive. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh force is phenomenal. Try mimicking >> Uh force is phenomenal. Try mimicking >> Uh force is phenomenal. Try mimicking that with free weights. You can't really that with free weights. You can't really that with free weights. You can't really do that. do that. do that. >> Yeah. It's interesting. It's like um >> Yeah. It's interesting. It's like um >> Yeah. It's interesting. It's like um what bodybuilders will call time under what bodybuilders will call time under what bodybuilders will call time under tension, but like it there's something tension, but like it there's something tension, but like it there's something to that for sure because you do feel the to that for sure because you do feel the to that for sure because you do feel the resistance like continuously in certain resistance like continuously in certain resistance like continuously in certain parts where it would drop off uh because parts where it would drop off uh because parts where it would drop off uh because of gravity. of gravity. of gravity. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I use a lot of uh machines for rear rear >> I use a lot of uh machines for rear rear >> I use a lot of uh machines for rear rear delt movements for that reason. delt movements for that reason. delt movements for that reason. >> Such a small move movement, such a small >> Such a small move movement, such a small >> Such a small move movement, such a small muscle. Uh when you I love it for I love muscle. Uh when you I love it for I love muscle. Uh when you I love it for I love dumbbells for it too, but it's you're dumbbells for it too, but it's you're dumbbells for it too, but it's you're that's that's that's >> everything's bent over. >> everything's bent over. >> everything's bent over. >> Yeah. are almost limited to that and you >> Yeah. are almost limited to that and you >> Yeah. are almost limited to that and you have to be in this position and it's to have to be in this position and it's to have to be in this position and it's to to do dumbbells to be hinged over with to do dumbbells to be hinged over with to do dumbbells to be hinged over with support isolate that and you're only support isolate that and you're only support isolate that and you're only opposing gravity really when it's at the opposing gravity really when it's at the opposing gravity really when it's at the top point and so when you're down you top point and so when you're down you top point and so when you're down you you have very little you have very little you have very little >> no resistance resistance yeah where I >> no resistance resistance yeah where I >> no resistance resistance yeah where I mean using cables really allows me to mean using cables really allows me to mean using cables really allows me to target that from different angles and target that from different angles and target that from different angles and keep it keep the tension on it through keep it keep the tension on it through keep it keep the tension on it through the full entire range of motion and so the full entire range of motion and so the full entire range of motion and so that's an example of a specific muscle that's an example of a specific muscle that's an example of a specific muscle that I use a lot of machines for rear that I use a lot of machines for rear that I use a lot of machines for rear delts and I have found which I this is delts and I have found which I this is delts and I have found which I this is also what makes me understand and also what makes me understand and also what makes me understand and identify with the bodybuilding identify with the bodybuilding identify with the bodybuilding hypertrophy person hypertrophy person hypertrophy person >> who like promotes machine so much is >> who like promotes machine so much is >> who like promotes machine so much is because I get it. I get when you're because I get it. I get when you're because I get it. I get when you're really trying to focus on a muscle and really trying to focus on a muscle and really trying to focus on a muscle and not incorporate because it's it's even not incorporate because it's it's even not incorporate because it's it's even machines it's impossible to isolate. You machines it's impossible to isolate. You machines it's impossible to isolate. You can never isolate. You can't can never isolate. You can't can never isolate. You can't >> isolate. >> isolate. >> isolate. >> True isolation doesn't exist. >> True isolation doesn't exist. >> True isolation doesn't exist. >> Yeah. It doesn't exist. Our bodies work >> Yeah. It doesn't exist. Our bodies work >> Yeah. It doesn't exist. Our bodies work syn all the muscles work synergistically syn all the muscles work synergistically syn all the muscles work synergistically and there there's always going to be and there there's always going to be and there there's always going to be that. But getting it to put as much that. But getting it to put as much that. But getting it to put as much emphasis in a very small area, emphasis in a very small area, emphasis in a very small area, >> there's no better way than than with a >> there's no better way than than with a >> there's no better way than than with a machine and because it allows everything machine and because it allows everything machine and because it allows everything else to be so fixed in that. And so rear else to be so fixed in that. And so rear else to be so fixed in that. And so rear delt is a a good example of a muscle delt is a a good example of a muscle delt is a a good example of a muscle group that I almost always use mostly group that I almost always use mostly group that I almost always use mostly machines. machines. machines. >> Totally. Totally. Do you guys see the >> Totally. Totally. Do you guys see the >> Totally. Totally. Do you guys see the new can of lollipop is blue? new can of lollipop is blue? new can of lollipop is blue? >> Yeah. Is it? I thought it was a >> Yeah. Is it? I thought it was a >> Yeah. Is it? I thought it was a different flavor. different flavor. different flavor. >> Cream soda. My favorite. My favorite. >> Cream soda. My favorite. My favorite. >> Cream soda. My favorite. My favorite. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So I have friends that that all they now >> So I have friends that that all they now >> So I have friends that that all they now drink is lollipop. drink is lollipop. drink is lollipop. >> Yeah. all. They're not like health and >> Yeah. all. They're not like health and >> Yeah. all. They're not like health and fitness enthusiasts. They just like the fitness enthusiasts. They just like the fitness enthusiasts. They just like the fact that it's low calorie, but you know fact that it's low calorie, but you know fact that it's low calorie, but you know why they like it? The taste. why they like it? The taste. why they like it? The taste. >> They're like, "Dude, I prefer the >> They're like, "Dude, I prefer the >> They're like, "Dude, I prefer the taste." taste." taste." >> A lot of parents I've talked to like >> A lot of parents I've talked to like >> A lot of parents I've talked to like they'll they love that they have an they'll they love that they have an they'll they love that they have an option for that because their kids option for that because their kids option for that because their kids especially drinking sodas. It's like especially drinking sodas. It's like especially drinking sodas. It's like >> Well, it's over to somebody's house and >> Well, it's over to somebody's house and >> Well, it's over to somebody's house and they're like, "Hey, you want something they're like, "Hey, you want something they're like, "Hey, you want something to drink?" They open the fridge. to drink?" They open the fridge. to drink?" They open the fridge. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And there's like, you know, beer, you >> And there's like, you know, beer, you >> And there's like, you know, beer, you know, there's a little like white wine, know, there's a little like white wine, know, there's a little like white wine, water, lollipops. I'm like, "You water, lollipops. I'm like, "You water, lollipops. I'm like, "You lollipop?" Like, "Oh, yeah. I love it." lollipop?" Like, "Oh, yeah. I love it." lollipop?" Like, "Oh, yeah. I love it." I'm like, "Are you trying to like cut I'm like, "Are you trying to like cut I'm like, "Are you trying to like cut your calories?" like, "No, actually I your calories?" like, "No, actually I your calories?" like, "No, actually I like the taste, but also it's really low like the taste, but also it's really low like the taste, but also it's really low calorie." calorie." calorie." >> When you when I wean myself off of the >> When you when I wean myself off of the >> When you when I wean myself off of the the diet soda kick, cuz that's typically the diet soda kick, cuz that's typically the diet soda kick, cuz that's typically what I do um with lollipops is uh I what I do um with lollipops is uh I what I do um with lollipops is uh I allow that in and out of my routine and allow that in and out of my routine and allow that in and out of my routine and it's like I catch myself having a lot of it's like I catch myself having a lot of it's like I catch myself having a lot of diet sodas, then I'll switch over to diet sodas, then I'll switch over to diet sodas, then I'll switch over to lollipop. It's trip when I get used to lollipop. It's trip when I get used to lollipop. It's trip when I get used to the lollipop flavor and the sweetness of the lollipop flavor and the sweetness of the lollipop flavor and the sweetness of it, how overpowering like it, how overpowering like it, how overpowering like >> the artificial sweeteners. Oh, yeah. >> the artificial sweeteners. Oh, yeah. >> the artificial sweeteners. Oh, yeah. It's like you you It's crazy how the It's like you you It's crazy how the It's like you you It's crazy how the body adapts like that. Like it's it's body adapts like that. Like it's it's body adapts like that. Like it's it's we've talked I've talked about this we've talked I've talked about this we've talked I've talked about this nauseium about competing and never being nauseium about competing and never being nauseium about competing and never being a fruit vegetable guy and then not a fruit vegetable guy and then not a fruit vegetable guy and then not having for a while and then getting having for a while and then getting having for a while and then getting introduced to that and then you're like introduced to that and then you're like introduced to that and then you're like oh my god your pallets change. Same oh my god your pallets change. Same oh my god your pallets change. Same thing with sweetness. thing with sweetness. thing with sweetness. >> The other thing too is if you guys drink >> The other thing too is if you guys drink >> The other thing too is if you guys drink these regularly pay attention to your these regularly pay attention to your these regularly pay attention to your gut health. It's really good. gut health. It's really good. gut health. It's really good. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Yes. It's really good. There are >> Yes. It's really good. There are >> Yes. It's really good. There are compounds in here that are good. Well compounds in here that are good. Well compounds in here that are good. Well there there's there's certain fibers there there's there's certain fibers there there's there's certain fibers that are good. that are good. that are good. >> Uh they also put marshmallow root in >> Uh they also put marshmallow root in >> Uh they also put marshmallow root in here which is good for the lining of here which is good for the lining of here which is good for the lining of your gut. your gut. your gut. >> Marshmallow root? >> Marshmallow root? >> Marshmallow root? >> Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing. >> Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing. >> Yeah. I didn't know that was a thing. >> That's not that's not what [laughter] >> That's not that's not what [laughter] >> That's not that's not what [laughter] you think. You know, marshmallows grow you think. You know, marshmallows grow you think. You know, marshmallows grow on trees. Marshmallows are good for you. on trees. Marshmallows are good for you. on trees. Marshmallows are good for you. Plants. Plants. Plants. >> No, no, no. But it's they have good >> No, no, no. But it's they have good >> No, no, no. But it's they have good stuff that's that's good for your stuff that's that's good for your stuff that's that's good for your >> Where does marshmallow root even come >> Where does marshmallow root even come >> Where does marshmallow root even come from? from? from? >> Yeah, Doug, look up marshmallow. So So >> Yeah, Doug, look up marshmallow. So So >> Yeah, Doug, look up marshmallow. So So >> I didn't even know that was a thing. >> I didn't even know that was a thing. >> I didn't even know that was a thing. >> Sometimes the lining of people's guts >> Sometimes the lining of people's guts >> Sometimes the lining of people's guts get really uh I don't know, for lack of get really uh I don't know, for lack of get really uh I don't know, for lack of a better term, damaged. Um and it's is a a better term, damaged. Um and it's is a a better term, damaged. Um and it's is a supplement you can take that'll help supplement you can take that'll help supplement you can take that'll help with the mucosa lining. with the mucosa lining. with the mucosa lining. >> There is a marshmallow plant. >> There is a marshmallow plant. >> There is a marshmallow plant. >> Yes, there is. It's It's not soft and uh >> Yes, there is. It's It's not soft and uh >> Yes, there is. It's It's not soft and uh sweet. sweet. sweet. >> Yeah, it's not what you think, dude. I >> Yeah, it's not what you think, dude. I >> Yeah, it's not what you think, dude. I know this guy. Does it even look like a know this guy. Does it even look like a know this guy. Does it even look like a marshmallow? marshmallow? marshmallow? >> It doesn't really. >> It doesn't really. >> It doesn't really. >> I mean, what's that one video right >> I mean, what's that one video right >> I mean, what's that one video right there where it says harvesting there where it says harvesting there where it says harvesting marshmallows? marshmallows? marshmallows? >> No, that's a joke. >> No, that's a joke. >> No, that's a joke. >> It's a joke. It's a joke. >> It's a joke. It's a joke. >> It's a joke. It's a joke. >> Do you guys remember that when I was a >> Do you guys remember that when I was a >> Do you guys remember that when I was a kid? Do you guys remember that kid? Do you guys remember that kid? Do you guys remember that commercial? I think Barilla did the commercial? I think Barilla did the commercial? I think Barilla did the commercial where it had Italians uh they commercial where it had Italians uh they commercial where it had Italians uh they were like taking pasta off trees. They were like taking pasta off trees. They were like taking pasta off trees. They try to say their pasta was natural and try to say their pasta was natural and try to say their pasta was natural and they like pulling it [laughter] off they like pulling it [laughter] off they like pulling it [laughter] off trees. trees. trees. >> It's so natural, >> It's so natural, >> It's so natural, >> dude. It was an old commercial from the >> dude. It was an old commercial from the >> dude. It was an old commercial from the 80s. 80s. 80s. >> Oh, I don't remember that. >> Oh, I don't remember that. >> Oh, I don't remember that. >> Yeah. And it's like bila, you know, and >> Yeah. And it's like bila, you know, and >> Yeah. And it's like bila, you know, and whatever. And as a kid, I was like, whatever. And as a kid, I was like, whatever. And as a kid, I was like, >> burila. >> burila. >> burila. >> And I'm like I distinctly know that we >> And I'm like I distinctly know that we >> And I'm like I distinctly know that we make pasta. like I've made possible. make pasta. like I've made possible. make pasta. like I've made possible. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> So, they actually used the plant >> So, they actually used the plant >> So, they actually used the plant historically in marshmallows. They don't historically in marshmallows. They don't historically in marshmallows. They don't do it anymore, but uh yeah. do it anymore, but uh yeah. do it anymore, but uh yeah. >> Oh, interesting. I never knew this, but >> Oh, interesting. I never knew this, but >> Oh, interesting. I never knew this, but in 1800s, uh French confectioners in 1800s, uh French confectioners in 1800s, uh French confectioners started using egg whites and marshmallow started using egg whites and marshmallow started using egg whites and marshmallow plant roots to create a lighter airrated plant roots to create a lighter airrated plant roots to create a lighter airrated candy. candy. candy. >> Yeah. Oh, wow. >> Yeah. Oh, wow. >> Yeah. Oh, wow. >> So, Doug, look up gut health. >> So, Doug, look up gut health. >> So, Doug, look up gut health. Marshmallow roots, gut health. Marshmallow roots, gut health. Marshmallow roots, gut health. interesting that it started off as this interesting that it started off as this interesting that it started off as this thing that uh was a treat but then also thing that uh was a treat but then also thing that uh was a treat but then also had some healthy properties to it and had some healthy properties to it and had some healthy properties to it and we've just eliminated the healthy thing we've just eliminated the healthy thing we've just eliminated the healthy thing completely. completely. completely. >> Yeah, it's all corn syrup now. >> Yeah, it's all corn syrup now. >> Yeah, it's all corn syrup now. >> Uh it's high mucilage content which >> Uh it's high mucilage content which >> Uh it's high mucilage content which forms a soothing protective gel over the forms a soothing protective gel over the forms a soothing protective gel over the mucosa membrane membranes. There you go. mucosa membrane membranes. There you go. mucosa membrane membranes. There you go. >> So it helps with acid reflux uh flux, >> So it helps with acid reflux uh flux, >> So it helps with acid reflux uh flux, gastritis and stomach ulcers gastritis and stomach ulcers gastritis and stomach ulcers >> because it coats irritated tissues >> because it coats irritated tissues >> because it coats irritated tissues >> and reduces conf. >> and reduces conf. >> and reduces conf. >> I wonder at what point did we eliminate >> I wonder at what point did we eliminate >> I wonder at what point did we eliminate the marshmallow root from the the marshmallow root from the the marshmallow root from the marshmallow? marshmallow? marshmallow? >> Why? No. At what point did we like when >> Why? No. At what point did we like when >> Why? No. At what point did we like when did it become when did did it become when did did it become when did >> we found a cheaper alternative probably? >> we found a cheaper alternative probably? >> we found a cheaper alternative probably? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, yeah. I'm sure I'm sure that I bet >> Well, yeah. I'm sure I'm sure that I bet >> Well, yeah. I'm sure I'm sure that I bet the history if that was it at one point the history if that was it at one point the history if that was it at one point some big company buys out some big company buys out some big company buys out >> buys out the whatever brand or whatever >> buys out the whatever brand or whatever >> buys out the whatever brand or whatever that was doing it originally and be that was doing it originally and be that was doing it originally and be like, "Oh, we could do this for like, "Oh, we could do this for like, "Oh, we could do this for marshmallows." marshmallows." marshmallows." >> Yeah. So, late 19th and 20th centuries, >> Yeah. So, late 19th and 20th centuries, >> Yeah. So, late 19th and 20th centuries, they discovered using commercial gelatin they discovered using commercial gelatin they discovered using commercial gelatin and starch extrusion yielded a much more and starch extrusion yielded a much more and starch extrusion yielded a much more stable mass-produced product. stable mass-produced product. stable mass-produced product. >> So, well, there you go. >> So, well, there you go. >> So, well, there you go. >> It's funny. I was just talking about >> It's funny. I was just talking about >> It's funny. I was just talking about that too because um there's this one that too because um there's this one that too because um there's this one dessert you you remember like definitive dessert you you remember like definitive dessert you you remember like definitive uh food groups or or drinks like you're uh food groups or or drinks like you're uh food groups or or drinks like you're like oh my god that was the best thing like oh my god that was the best thing like oh my god that was the best thing I've ever had. There was this one I've ever had. There was this one I've ever had. There was this one marshmallow was covered by like a white marshmallow was covered by like a white marshmallow was covered by like a white chocolate that was like a key lime white chocolate that was like a key lime white chocolate that was like a key lime white chocolate. It sounds bizarre. Sounds chocolate. It sounds bizarre. Sounds chocolate. It sounds bizarre. Sounds delicious. delicious. delicious. >> Yeah. It had homemade like a a graham >> Yeah. It had homemade like a a graham >> Yeah. It had homemade like a a graham cracker crust. So it was like a s'more. cracker crust. So it was like a s'more. cracker crust. So it was like a s'more. It was basically like this big It was basically like this big It was basically like this big marshmallow covered in that like key marshmallow covered in that like key marshmallow covered in that like key lime chocolate with the graham cracker. lime chocolate with the graham cracker. lime chocolate with the graham cracker. >> What was it called? >> What was it called? >> What was it called? >> Just a key lime s'more. >> Just a key lime s'more. >> Just a key lime s'more. >> That was the brand name. >> That was the brand name. >> That was the brand name. >> Well, no. This was at a chocolate like >> Well, no. This was at a chocolate like >> Well, no. This was at a chocolate like place like a store. Me and Courtney get place like a store. Me and Courtney get place like a store. Me and Courtney get so mad. We go there every time asking so mad. We go there every time asking so mad. We go there every time asking for it and they'd only make certain for it and they'd only make certain for it and they'd only make certain batches and then batches and then batches and then >> you know I guess the biggest irritation >> you know I guess the biggest irritation >> you know I guess the biggest irritation I have is like when you have a product I have is like when you have a product I have is like when you have a product that is definitively the best thing you that is definitively the best thing you that is definitively the best thing you have and you're like oh we just do that have and you're like oh we just do that have and you're like oh we just do that every now and then. I'm like, "This is every now and then. I'm like, "This is every now and then. I'm like, "This is the only thing I come here for." You the only thing I come here for." You the only thing I come here for." You know, know, know, >> like the McRib. >> like the McRib. >> like the McRib. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Why don't you always make the McRib, >> Why don't you always make the McRib, >> Why don't you always make the McRib, dude? dude? dude? >> Delicious. >> Delicious. >> Delicious. >> I mean, have you ever seen the Mc >> I mean, have you ever seen the Mc >> I mean, have you ever seen the Mc >> Don't Isn't there like a Isn't there >> Don't Isn't there like a Isn't there >> Don't Isn't there like a Isn't there probably like a psychological strategy probably like a psychological strategy probably like a psychological strategy to that, though? to that, though? to that, though? >> Great. >> Great. >> Great. >> FOMO and FOMO, you know. >> FOMO and FOMO, you know. >> FOMO and FOMO, you know. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> I I >> I I >> I I >> But they stopped making it. >> But they stopped making it. >> But they stopped making it. >> Well, you know, there's like one of my >> Well, you know, there's like one of my >> Well, you know, there's like one of my favorite restaurants. You guys ever eat favorite restaurants. You guys ever eat favorite restaurants. You guys ever eat at OKC? You guys ever Yeah. Or OCK. at OKC? You guys ever Yeah. Or OCK. at OKC? You guys ever Yeah. Or OCK. Sorry. Did I say it wrong? OC Orchard Sorry. Did I say it wrong? OC Orchard Sorry. Did I say it wrong? OC Orchard City Kitchen. City Kitchen. City Kitchen. >> Yeah, you're right. OCK. OCK. >> Yeah, you're right. OCK. OCK. >> Yeah, you're right. OCK. OCK. >> Uh, >> Uh, >> Uh, >> that's a basketball team. Okay. >> that's a basketball team. Okay. >> that's a basketball team. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Look at you know >> Look at you know >> Look at you know >> since that video. Yeah. You're >> since that video. Yeah. You're >> since that video. Yeah. You're researching [laughter] researching [laughter] researching [laughter] sprinkle random things in me again. sprinkle random things in me again. sprinkle random things in me again. >> The average listener is like, "Oh, he >> The average listener is like, "Oh, he >> The average listener is like, "Oh, he likes sports." [laughter] likes sports." [laughter] likes sports." [laughter] >> Did I tell you Did I tell you guys about >> Did I tell you Did I tell you guys about >> Did I tell you Did I tell you guys about the um I don't know if I brought up on the um I don't know if I brought up on the um I don't know if I brought up on the show or I told you guys the game the show or I told you guys the game the show or I told you guys the game that I got. You just made me think of that I got. You just made me think of that I got. You just made me think of something. The convers table something. The convers table something. The convers table conversations. conversations. conversations. >> You sent it to me. I got it. Okay. You >> You sent it to me. I got it. Okay. You >> You sent it to me. I got it. Okay. You did? did? did? >> I got it. I've been reading it to my >> I got it. I've been reading it to my >> I got it. I've been reading it to my kids. kids. kids. >> Oh, you already started. Isn't it cool? >> Oh, you already started. Isn't it cool? >> Oh, you already started. Isn't it cool? Yeah, it's fun. It's such a good idea, Yeah, it's fun. It's such a good idea, Yeah, it's fun. It's such a good idea, right? I was like, "This is cool." right? I was like, "This is cool." right? I was like, "This is cool." >> It's like table It's like tabletop >> It's like table It's like tabletop >> It's like table It's like tabletop conversations but for little kids. conversations but for little kids. conversations but for little kids. >> Nice. >> Nice. >> Nice. >> So, you ask like if you could only have >> So, you ask like if you could only have >> So, you ask like if you could only have three superpowers, what would they be? three superpowers, what would they be? three superpowers, what would they be? >> Yeah. Oh, we've been meaning to do that. >> Yeah. Oh, we've been meaning to do that. >> Yeah. Oh, we've been meaning to do that. Yeah. Cuz they have some for adults like Yeah. Cuz they have some for adults like Yeah. Cuz they have some for adults like for Yeah. relationship. for Yeah. relationship. for Yeah. relationship. >> Oh, Katrina and I have had that forever. >> Oh, Katrina and I have had that forever. >> Oh, Katrina and I have had that forever. Like we've we've kept it by the bed for Like we've we've kept it by the bed for Like we've we've kept it by the bed for I don't know decade and it's always like I don't know decade and it's always like I don't know decade and it's always like a fun and we rarely do it but once every a fun and we rarely do it but once every a fun and we rarely do it but once every you know one of us will be we'll be you know one of us will be we'll be you know one of us will be we'll be sitting there be like well we don't want sitting there be like well we don't want sitting there be like well we don't want to watch TV or something right now. to watch TV or something right now. to watch TV or something right now. Let's do Hey, grab the table things. Let's do Hey, grab the table things. Let's do Hey, grab the table things. Let's see. And then we'll pull and it Let's see. And then we'll pull and it Let's see. And then we'll pull and it always good conversation. fun always good conversation. fun always good conversation. fun conversation. conversation. conversation. >> Yeah. Because it's always something so >> Yeah. Because it's always something so >> Yeah. Because it's always something so you would never think you would talk you would never think you would talk you would never think you would talk about it. about it. about it. >> Yeah. Like it it'll say something like >> Yeah. Like it it'll say something like >> Yeah. Like it it'll say something like you're, you know, when you were in high you're, you know, when you were in high you're, you know, when you were in high school, what was your biggest fear of school, what was your biggest fear of school, what was your biggest fear of this or that? And then she'll start this or that? And then she'll start this or that? And then she'll start telling story like, "Oh my god, you were telling story like, "Oh my god, you were telling story like, "Oh my god, you were that was a you went through that? I had that was a you went through that? I had that was a you went through that? I had no idea." Like, so it always brings up no idea." Like, so it always brings up no idea." Like, so it always brings up >> cool stories like that. >> cool stories like that. >> cool stories like that. >> And same thing with the kids one that I, >> And same thing with the kids one that I, >> And same thing with the kids one that I, you know, you you think, "Oh, I I could you know, you you think, "Oh, I I could you know, you you think, "Oh, I I could think of all the things asked my kid, think of all the things asked my kid, think of all the things asked my kid, but then there it's so random." but then there it's so random." but then there it's so random." >> Do you want to know what I found out >> Do you want to know what I found out >> Do you want to know what I found out about my my 5-year-old? about my my 5-year-old? about my my 5-year-old? >> Let's hear it. >> Let's hear it. >> Let's hear it. >> He has a uh a good to marry list. >> He has a uh a good to marry list. >> He has a uh a good to marry list. >> Good to marry. He has a list. >> Good to marry. He has a list. >> Good to marry. He has a list. >> He's already figured out >> He's already figured out >> He's already figured out >> girls that are good to marry. >> girls that are good to marry. >> girls that are good to marry. >> Wow. Shut your face. >> Wow. Shut your face. >> Wow. Shut your face. >> That's hilarious. >> That's hilarious. >> That's hilarious. >> This is true. This is true. He literally >> This is true. This is true. He literally >> This is true. This is true. He literally told my wife, first of all, we've heard told my wife, first of all, we've heard told my wife, first of all, we've heard him say this once. him say this once. him say this once. >> So, we have friends who have daughters. >> So, we have friends who have daughters. >> So, we have friends who have daughters. First of all, we have a lot of friends First of all, we have a lot of friends First of all, we have a lot of friends who have daughter, like tons of who have daughter, like tons of who have daughter, like tons of daughters. He's like one of the only daughters. He's like one of the only daughters. He's like one of the only boys boys boys >> in our friend group. Anyway, >> in our friend group. Anyway, >> in our friend group. Anyway, >> uh one of the times he was hanging out >> uh one of the times he was hanging out >> uh one of the times he was hanging out with them, he comes, you know, they with them, he comes, you know, they with them, he comes, you know, they leave and he walks up to her name's leave and he walks up to her name's leave and he walks up to her name's Adeline. And he's like, Adeline. And he's like, Adeline. And he's like, >> "Uh, I like Adeline. She's uh she looks >> "Uh, I like Adeline. She's uh she looks >> "Uh, I like Adeline. She's uh she looks good to Mary." And my wife's like, good to Mary." And my wife's like, good to Mary." And my wife's like, "What? [laughter] what are you talking "What? [laughter] what are you talking "What? [laughter] what are you talking about? Like, oh, she's she's really about? Like, oh, she's she's really about? Like, oh, she's she's really pretty. She looks good to marry. So, pretty. She looks good to marry. So, pretty. She looks good to marry. So, like, okay, bro. So, that was the first like, okay, bro. So, that was the first like, okay, bro. So, that was the first time we heard it. Anyway, he's got a time we heard it. Anyway, he's got a time we heard it. Anyway, he's got a list. He says, "Oh, I have there are list. He says, "Oh, I have there are list. He says, "Oh, I have there are people that I have that I think are good people that I have that I think are good people that I have that I think are good to marry." One of them is a 15-year-old to marry." One of them is a 15-year-old to marry." One of them is a 15-year-old girl. She's a 15-year-old daughter of girl. She's a 15-year-old daughter of girl. She's a 15-year-old daughter of one of my friends. I'm like, "Do you one of my friends. I'm like, "Do you one of my friends. I'm like, "Do you [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> a little Asian out here, dude? >> a little Asian out here, dude? >> a little Asian out here, dude? >> Hi, man. >> Hi, man. >> Hi, man. >> Bro, he's five." >> Bro, he's five." >> Bro, he's five." >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> he's got, you know, >> he's got, you know, >> he's got, you know, >> so anyway, what do they say about the >> so anyway, what do they say about the >> so anyway, what do they say about the apple? So, you know, so Jessica and I apple? So, you know, so Jessica and I apple? So, you know, so Jessica and I are like I'm looking at my wife. I'm are like I'm looking at my wife. I'm are like I'm looking at my wife. I'm like, "Honey, like, "Honey, like, "Honey, >> I apologize. I ahead of time if he's >> I apologize. I ahead of time if he's >> I apologize. I ahead of time if he's [laughter] like if he's like me, we're [laughter] like if he's like me, we're [laughter] like if he's like me, we're going to going to going to >> we're going to pray a lot. We got to >> we're going to pray a lot. We got to >> we're going to pray a lot. We got to pray a lot for this kid if he's like his pray a lot for this kid if he's like his pray a lot for this kid if he's like his dad." dad." dad." >> A list. >> A list. >> A list. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. [laughter] >> You got to get you got you got to get >> You got to get you got you got to get >> You got to get you got you got to get the game for your boys. I think it'll be the game for your boys. I think it'll be the game for your boys. I think it'll be really cool to do that. Um yours you really cool to do that. Um yours you really cool to do that. Um yours you just dropped yours off at camp, right? just dropped yours off at camp, right? just dropped yours off at camp, right? >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. I went down to San >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. I went down to San >> I did. Yeah. Yeah. I went down to San Louisville and they actually like hopped Louisville and they actually like hopped Louisville and they actually like hopped on with my friend's church. Oh, you took on with my friend's church. Oh, you took on with my friend's church. Oh, you took him down south so they could then take a him down south so they could then take a him down south so they could then take a bus back up north. bus back up north. bus back up north. >> And which is hilarious because that is >> And which is hilarious because that is >> And which is hilarious because that is funny. funny. funny. >> We first went to Bass Lake cuz um my my >> We first went to Bass Lake cuz um my my >> We first went to Bass Lake cuz um my my youngest his best friend was already youngest his best friend was already youngest his best friend was already like invited him to go camping. And so like invited him to go camping. And so like invited him to go camping. And so uh we were like I don't know that's kind uh we were like I don't know that's kind uh we were like I don't know that's kind of like the timing isn't isn't right. of like the timing isn't isn't right. of like the timing isn't isn't right. But like if I guess we go pick you up But like if I guess we go pick you up But like if I guess we go pick you up and then we can bring you down like we and then we can bring you down like we and then we can bring you down like we can make this work. And so we just can make this work. And so we just can make this work. And so we just decided to make it work. Uh and so we decided to make it work. Uh and so we decided to make it work. Uh and so we drive up to Bass Lake. He was camping drive up to Bass Lake. He was camping drive up to Bass Lake. He was camping there and then we took him down. Uh but there and then we took him down. Uh but there and then we took him down. Uh but it was funny and I told you guys this it was funny and I told you guys this it was funny and I told you guys this story before, but um while I was there story before, but um while I was there story before, but um while I was there like I was there was no place to park like I was there was no place to park like I was there was no place to park and I was just going to it was just and I was just going to it was just and I was just going to it was just going to be a simple drop off like they going to be a simple drop off like they going to be a simple drop off like they had driven the boat up and and you know had driven the boat up and and you know had driven the boat up and and you know everybody got off and then we were going everybody got off and then we were going everybody got off and then we were going to like eat at this restaurant that was to like eat at this restaurant that was to like eat at this restaurant that was right there next to the lake. And so I'm right there next to the lake. And so I'm right there next to the lake. And so I'm up there waiting for my food and I'm up there waiting for my food and I'm up there waiting for my food and I'm looking out and I had parked kind of looking out and I had parked kind of looking out and I had parked kind of precariously like my the back end of my precariously like my the back end of my precariously like my the back end of my car was in the road and there's a lot of car was in the road and there's a lot of car was in the road and there's a lot of like cars with with boats going through like cars with with boats going through like cars with with boats going through and so it was like kind of sticking out and so it was like kind of sticking out and so it was like kind of sticking out but I'm like dude we're not going to be but I'm like dude we're not going to be but I'm like dude we're not going to be here that long and we're just going to here that long and we're just going to here that long and we're just going to kind of do our thing and then you know I kind of do our thing and then you know I kind of do our thing and then you know I I'll get in the car and and we'll take I'll get in the car and and we'll take I'll get in the car and and we'll take off. off. off. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh and Courtney was like oh no >> And uh and Courtney was like oh no >> And uh and Courtney was like oh no there's you know there's cops. They're there's you know there's cops. They're there's you know there's cops. They're they're out there. They're they're they're out there. They're they're they're out there. They're they're looking at your car. And I look I'm like looking at your car. And I look I'm like looking at your car. And I look I'm like oh no. [laughter] and he had already oh no. [laughter] and he had already oh no. [laughter] and he had already taken out the marker and was like taken out the marker and was like taken out the marker and was like marking my tire and like started to kind marking my tire and like started to kind marking my tire and like started to kind of like get the paperwork out and I'm of like get the paperwork out and I'm of like get the paperwork out and I'm like I just like hauled downstairs and like I just like hauled downstairs and like I just like hauled downstairs and I'm running out there and I'm like oh I'm running out there and I'm like oh I'm running out there and I'm like oh hey like you know I'm just here for a hey like you know I'm just here for a hey like you know I'm just here for a second I'll move my car blah blah blah second I'll move my car blah blah blah second I'll move my car blah blah blah and then uh and he looks at me and he's and then uh and he looks at me and he's and then uh and he looks at me and he's like you look really familiar I was like like you look really familiar I was like like you look really familiar I was like you listen to the podcast and he's like you listen to the podcast and he's like you listen to the podcast and he's like [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] you're my pup Justin and like it was it you're my pup Justin and like it was it you're my pup Justin and like it was it was bizarre dude we took a selfie we was bizarre dude we took a selfie we was bizarre dude we took a selfie we stopped traffic [laughter] stopped traffic [laughter] stopped traffic [laughter] like, "Hey, CHP, too, right?" like, "Hey, CHP, too, right?" like, "Hey, CHP, too, right?" >> CHP. >> CHP. >> CHP. >> So, no ticket. >> So, no ticket. >> So, no ticket. >> No ticket. I mean, thank you. Like, that >> No ticket. I mean, thank you. Like, that >> No ticket. I mean, thank you. Like, that was, you know, my uh like little was, you know, my uh like little was, you know, my uh like little >> get out of jail free card. But yeah, I >> get out of jail free card. But yeah, I >> get out of jail free card. But yeah, I was was was >> I was I was like, man, they were going >> I was I was like, man, they were going >> I was I was like, man, they were going to tow my car for real. Like he's like, to tow my car for real. Like he's like, to tow my car for real. Like he's like, "Dude, yeah, this happens a lot." And we "Dude, yeah, this happens a lot." And we "Dude, yeah, this happens a lot." And we just we just take them take the car. just we just take them take the car. just we just take them take the car. >> Did you see the picture? Three >> Did you see the picture? Three >> Did you see the picture? Three mustaches, bro. You have to [laughter] mustaches, bro. You have to [laughter] mustaches, bro. You have to [laughter] You cannot You cannot You cannot Can you blur out Can you blur out his Can you blur out Can you blur out his Can you blur out Can you blur out his eyes? eyes? eyes? >> No, don't get these guys [laughter] in >> No, don't get these guys [laughter] in >> No, don't get these guys [laughter] in trouble. It literally looks like three trouble. It literally looks like three trouble. It literally looks like three Justin. You know what I'm saying? Justin. You know what I'm saying? Justin. You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. It's the mustache. >> Yeah. It's the mustache. >> Yeah. It's the mustache. >> Yeah. You look like you like three >> Yeah. You look like you like three >> Yeah. You look like you like three generations. You know what I'm saying? generations. You know what I'm saying? generations. You know what I'm saying? Cuz there's an older guy, too. You know Cuz there's an older guy, too. You know Cuz there's an older guy, too. You know what I'm saying? But what I'm saying? But what I'm saying? But >> I told you when I got pulled over. >> I told you when I got pulled over. >> I told you when I got pulled over. >> When I got pulled over cuz I was on >> When I got pulled over cuz I was on >> When I got pulled over cuz I was on FaceTime with my kid cuz he was crying FaceTime with my kid cuz he was crying FaceTime with my kid cuz he was crying or whatever. And I got pulled over and or whatever. And I got pulled over and or whatever. And I got pulled over and the cop comes out of the car and I can the cop comes out of the car and I can the cop comes out of the car and I can see in my rearview mirror that he works see in my rearview mirror that he works see in my rearview mirror that he works out. out. out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's like walking out. He's kind of >> He's like walking out. He's kind of >> He's like walking out. He's kind of jacked. I'm like, "Oh, cool." jacked. I'm like, "Oh, cool." jacked. I'm like, "Oh, cool." >> Yeah. For sure. This good handshake. >> Yeah. For sure. This good handshake. >> Yeah. For sure. This good handshake. >> He's a fan. He's like, "Okay, you can >> He's a fan. He's like, "Okay, you can >> He's a fan. He's like, "Okay, you can take off now." take off now." take off now." >> My [laughter] guy was The guy who did >> My [laughter] guy was The guy who did >> My [laughter] guy was The guy who did that to me was like so undercover about that to me was like so undercover about that to me was like so undercover about it. like you could tell like I think he it. like you could tell like I think he it. like you could tell like I think he had like a camera and so he didn't he had like a camera and so he didn't he had like a camera and so he didn't he didn't like it was like code you know didn't like it was like code you know didn't like it was like code you know what I'm saying he just he just looked what I'm saying he just he just looked what I'm saying he just he just looked [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. So I was like oh cool cuz I >> Yeah. Yeah. So I was like oh cool cuz I >> Yeah. Yeah. So I was like oh cool cuz I was getting nailed for a lot of stuff. I was getting nailed for a lot of stuff. I was getting nailed for a lot of stuff. I was like oh god this is not going to be was like oh god this is not going to be was like oh god this is not going to be a good one right here. [laughter] a good one right here. [laughter] a good one right here. [laughter] >> So I wonder if that's what it like if it >> So I wonder if that's what it like if it >> So I wonder if that's what it like if it if they if they are recording while it's if they if they are recording while it's if they if they are recording while it's going on like is going on like is going on like is >> Yeah. They can't just give you >> Yeah. They can't just give you >> Yeah. They can't just give you >> Yeah. Yeah. You just can't get >> Yeah. Yeah. You just can't get >> Yeah. Yeah. You just can't get >> preferential treatment or whatever. >> preferential treatment or whatever. >> preferential treatment or whatever. >> Yeah. So you didn't make a big deal >> Yeah. So you didn't make a big deal >> Yeah. So you didn't make a big deal about it. That's all good. [laughter] about it. That's all good. [laughter] about it. That's all good. [laughter] >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that was cool. I mean, it And then we >> that was cool. I mean, it And then we >> that was cool. I mean, it And then we went down. Dude, I've had the most went down. Dude, I've had the most went down. Dude, I've had the most bizarre pain though. I I can't like I I bizarre pain though. I I can't like I I bizarre pain though. I I can't like I I can't even pinpoint it to anything in my can't even pinpoint it to anything in my can't even pinpoint it to anything in my shoulders like shoulders like shoulders like >> both. >> both. >> both. >> And it switched from one it was like all >> And it switched from one it was like all >> And it switched from one it was like all nerve pain then went to the other. Now nerve pain then went to the other. Now nerve pain then went to the other. Now I'm like it's really sore and achy. I'm like it's really sore and achy. I'm like it's really sore and achy. >> Uh and I was just like man sleeping in >> Uh and I was just like man sleeping in >> Uh and I was just like man sleeping in these um in the hotel room. I didn't get these um in the hotel room. I didn't get these um in the hotel room. I didn't get any sleep and I was like there was a a a any sleep and I was like there was a a a any sleep and I was like there was a a a hot tub out there and that was the only hot tub out there and that was the only hot tub out there and that was the only thing that like kind of brought it down. thing that like kind of brought it down. thing that like kind of brought it down. And so I had all this time to kill the And so I had all this time to kill the And so I had all this time to kill the next day after we dropped the kids off next day after we dropped the kids off next day after we dropped the kids off and we were like driving back home. We and we were like driving back home. We and we were like driving back home. We I'm like let's just stop for a minute I'm like let's just stop for a minute I'm like let's just stop for a minute and um there was the the syscus I think and um there was the the syscus I think and um there was the the syscus I think is what it's called. There was like this is what it's called. There was like this is what it's called. There was like this like you know hot springs place and I'm like you know hot springs place and I'm like you know hot springs place and I'm like that sounds like good. I like the like that sounds like good. I like the like that sounds like good. I like the hot tub works so maybe this will help. hot tub works so maybe this will help. hot tub works so maybe this will help. And Courtney had like, you know, looked And Courtney had like, you know, looked And Courtney had like, you know, looked it up and and took me to a different it up and and took me to a different it up and and took me to a different place. It was like before that. And it place. It was like before that. And it place. It was like before that. And it was like, dude, it was like literally was like, dude, it was like literally was like, dude, it was like literally like a trailer park stop or something like a trailer park stop or something like a trailer park stop or something like but with hot springs. And so we get like but with hot springs. And so we get like but with hot springs. And so we get in there, it's like 15 bucks. I'm like, in there, it's like 15 bucks. I'm like, in there, it's like 15 bucks. I'm like, oh, cool. It's cheap here. You know, oh, cool. It's cheap here. You know, oh, cool. It's cheap here. You know, like [laughter] like [laughter] like [laughter] I get in there, I see why. And I'm in I get in there, I see why. And I'm in I get in there, I see why. And I'm in there with just like the the craziest there with just like the the craziest there with just like the the craziest characters you've ever seen. And I'm characters you've ever seen. And I'm characters you've ever seen. And I'm like just I'm the only one like you know like just I'm the only one like you know like just I'm the only one like you know trying to like get therapy out of this. trying to like get therapy out of this. trying to like get therapy out of this. >> Courtney wouldn't even go in with him. >> Courtney wouldn't even go in with him. >> Courtney wouldn't even go in with him. >> She wouldn't even go in. She's like yeah >> She wouldn't even go in. She's like yeah >> She wouldn't even go in. She's like yeah I'll wait for you in the car. [laughter] >> Jesse's like I'm in a lot of pain. >> Jesse's like I'm in a lot of pain. >> Yeah. This guy's making like he has a >> Yeah. This guy's making like he has a >> Yeah. This guy's making like he has a huge uh igloo and he's like making huge uh igloo and he's like making huge uh igloo and he's like making everybody like these like tuna everybody like these like tuna everybody like these like tuna sandwiches. Yeah. You want tuna? I'm sandwiches. Yeah. You want tuna? I'm sandwiches. Yeah. You want tuna? I'm like I'm good. Like thanks though. You like I'm good. Like thanks though. You like I'm good. Like thanks though. You know appreciate tuna sandwich for know appreciate tuna sandwich for know appreciate tuna sandwich for strangers from a stranger in a bathroom. strangers from a stranger in a bathroom. strangers from a stranger in a bathroom. You know what's funny? I've been seeing You know what's funny? I've been seeing You know what's funny? I've been seeing these memes. You just reminded me. I've these memes. You just reminded me. I've these memes. You just reminded me. I've been seeing these memes cuz you guys been seeing these memes cuz you guys been seeing these memes cuz you guys know about the the parasite thing, know about the the parasite thing, know about the the parasite thing, right? right? right? >> They're calling it diarrhea lettuce >> They're calling it diarrhea lettuce >> They're calling it diarrhea lettuce display. [laughter] display. [laughter] display. [laughter] >> Did you see the video that the the team >> Did you see the video that the the team >> Did you see the video that the the team made? No. made? No. made? No. >> Of Justin and I? >> Of Justin and I? >> Of Justin and I? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> You didn't see? >> You didn't see? >> You didn't see? >> Oh, I did. I did. >> Oh, I did. I did. >> Oh, I did. I did. >> And you hear the the the whole thing was >> And you hear the the the whole thing was >> And you hear the the the whole thing was the whole the whole the whole >> That worked out too perfect. It did. It >> That worked out too perfect. It did. It >> That worked out too perfect. It did. It did. did. did. >> So So I was uh there's these memes. So >> So So I was uh there's these memes. So >> So So I was uh there's these memes. So you guys know that meme where it looks you guys know that meme where it looks you guys know that meme where it looks like a bunch of aristocrats are kind of like a bunch of aristocrats are kind of like a bunch of aristocrats are kind of looking down and they'll use it like looking down and they'll use it like looking down and they'll use it like this is me looking down at people. this is me looking down at people. this is me looking down at people. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's like, you >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's like, you >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's like, you know, uh me eating a a a gas station know, uh me eating a a a gas station know, uh me eating a a a gas station burrito, looking down at everybody who burrito, looking down at everybody who burrito, looking down at everybody who eats salads. [laughter] Yeah, that's eats salads. [laughter] Yeah, that's eats salads. [laughter] Yeah, that's what you get for your diarrhea. what you get for your diarrhea. what you get for your diarrhea. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> I'm fine. You know, that's spreading, by >> I'm fine. You know, that's spreading, by >> I'm fine. You know, that's spreading, by the way. the way. the way. >> It's crazy. Yeah. >> It's crazy. Yeah. >> It's crazy. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. For multiple people. >> Yeah. For multiple people. >> Yeah. For multiple people. >> You know what I feel bad for? I feel bad >> You know what I feel bad for? I feel bad >> You know what I feel bad for? I feel bad for Taco Bell. Do you guys hear what for Taco Bell. Do you guys hear what for Taco Bell. Do you guys hear what happened with them? happened with them? happened with them? >> Yeah. They kind of pinpointed it to >> Yeah. They kind of pinpointed it to >> Yeah. They kind of pinpointed it to them. them. them. >> No, it was the See, that's just blaming >> No, it was the See, that's just blaming >> No, it was the See, that's just blaming them. Yeah. them. Yeah. them. Yeah. >> Taco Bell preemptively. They Nobody got >> Taco Bell preemptively. They Nobody got >> Taco Bell preemptively. They Nobody got sick from Taco Bell. Taco Bell's sick from Taco Bell. Taco Bell's sick from Taco Bell. Taco Bell's innocent. innocent. innocent. >> They preemptively >> They preemptively >> They preemptively >> You get diarrhea from Taco Bell >> You get diarrhea from Taco Bell >> You get diarrhea from Taco Bell everything else. everything else. everything else. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Yeah. So, you can't really just Yeah. >> Yeah. So, you can't really just Yeah. >> Yeah. So, you can't really just Yeah. >> Anyway, my point is Taco Bell >> Anyway, my point is Taco Bell >> Anyway, my point is Taco Bell preemptively removes certain things to preemptively removes certain things to preemptively removes certain things to say, "Hey, you know, we know something's say, "Hey, you know, we know something's say, "Hey, you know, we know something's going on, so we're just going to do this going on, so we're just going to do this going on, so we're just going to do this preemptively." Of course. What do you preemptively." Of course. What do you preemptively." Of course. What do you think the media does? Taco Bell, you think the media does? Taco Bell, you think the media does? Taco Bell, you know, connects them to diarrhea lettuce know, connects them to diarrhea lettuce know, connects them to diarrhea lettuce because Taco Bell is known for so poor because Taco Bell is known for so poor because Taco Bell is known for so poor Taco Bell's getting hammered. Taco Bell's getting hammered. Taco Bell's getting hammered. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Even though they did the right thing and >> Even though they did the right thing and >> Even though they did the right thing and nobody nobody got sick from Taco Bell. nobody nobody got sick from Taco Bell. nobody nobody got sick from Taco Bell. People got sick from like berries from People got sick from like berries from People got sick from like berries from the grocery store and the grocery store and the grocery store and >> that and that other brand that I >> that and that other brand that I >> that and that other brand that I remember the way I found out about it remember the way I found out about it remember the way I found out about it was I posted that protein salad that was I posted that protein salad that was I posted that protein salad that that they have. that they have. that they have. >> Was it from that company? >> Was it from that company? >> Was it from that company? >> It was it was the company I forget the >> It was it was the company I forget the >> It was it was the company I forget the name of the company right now, but name of the company right now, but name of the company right now, but someone's like did you not read they someone's like did you not read they someone's like did you not read they sent me the whole article on it was like sent me the whole article on it was like sent me the whole article on it was like it was that company that it was that company that it was that company that >> do you know where it comes from? So it >> do you know where it comes from? So it >> do you know where it comes from? So it spreads through human uh poop. spreads through human uh poop. spreads through human uh poop. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So they think that there's like workers >> So they think that there's like workers >> So they think that there's like workers pooping in the fields and that's how pooping in the fields and that's how pooping in the fields and that's how it's it's it's >> I feel like this has happened before. >> I feel like this has happened before. >> I feel like this has happened before. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> The amount >> The amount >> The amount >> spinach. There's a spinach in like this. >> spinach. There's a spinach in like this. >> spinach. There's a spinach in like this. >> What do you mean stop? >> What do you mean stop? >> What do you mean stop? >> I mean that means like a lot of workers >> I mean that means like a lot of workers >> I mean that means like a lot of workers would be [ __ ] on lettuce, bro. It's would be [ __ ] on lettuce, bro. It's would be [ __ ] on lettuce, bro. It's not like one guy decides to take a [ __ ] not like one guy decides to take a [ __ ] not like one guy decides to take a [ __ ] in lettuce and then like it spreads the in lettuce and then like it spreads the in lettuce and then like it spreads the whole whole whole >> Well, yeah. And they don't wash their >> Well, yeah. And they don't wash their >> Well, yeah. And they don't wash their hands and they're processing it. But the hands and they're processing it. But the hands and they're processing it. But the thing is just wash your your produce, thing is just wash your your produce, thing is just wash your your produce, right? right? right? >> Yeah. If you wash it, doesn't it doesn't >> Yeah. If you wash it, doesn't it doesn't >> Yeah. If you wash it, doesn't it doesn't clean it necessarily. Those those are clean it necessarily. Those those are clean it necessarily. Those those are like really persistent little eggs, like really persistent little eggs, like really persistent little eggs, dude. dude. dude. >> There's a lot of people that have to be >> There's a lot of people that have to be >> There's a lot of people that have to be pooping on lettuce for that to happen. pooping on lettuce for that to happen. pooping on lettuce for that to happen. >> I think a lot, dude. I think there's a >> I think a lot, dude. I think there's a >> I think a lot, dude. I think there's a lot of people that do that. lot of people that do that. lot of people that do that. >> I do. [laughter] >> I do. [laughter] >> I do. [laughter] >> There's a lot of pooping on lettuce >> There's a lot of pooping on lettuce >> There's a lot of pooping on lettuce going on. going on. going on. >> There's a lot. Hey, it's like an >> There's a lot. Hey, it's like an >> There's a lot. Hey, it's like an underground thing that's happening. underground thing that's happening. underground thing that's happening. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Get these wet [ __ ] all over the >> Get these wet [ __ ] all over the >> Get these wet [ __ ] all over the >> I mean, it can't be any worse than San >> I mean, it can't be any worse than San >> I mean, it can't be any worse than San Francisco streets. [laughter] Francisco streets. [laughter] Francisco streets. [laughter] >> Yeah, San Francisco's cleaner. At least >> Yeah, San Francisco's cleaner. At least >> Yeah, San Francisco's cleaner. At least on the street. on the street. on the street. >> That's it. I poop on my salad. Dude, I >> That's it. I poop on my salad. Dude, I >> That's it. I poop on my salad. Dude, I just read it. It's so funny. We This is just read it. It's so funny. We This is just read it. It's so funny. We This is coming up. So So you guys you guys know coming up. So So you guys you guys know coming up. So So you guys you guys know how like endurance athletes uh how like endurance athletes uh how like endurance athletes uh especially like extreme endurance like especially like extreme endurance like especially like extreme endurance like ultramarathons, iron mans, you know how ultramarathons, iron mans, you know how ultramarathons, iron mans, you know how it's like relatively common that they'll it's like relatively common that they'll it's like relatively common that they'll poop themselves while racing. You guys poop themselves while racing. You guys poop themselves while racing. You guys know that, right? You've heard that, know that, right? You've heard that, know that, right? You've heard that, right? right? right? >> You didn't know that. Okay. [snorts] >> You didn't know that. Okay. [snorts] >> You didn't know that. Okay. [snorts] >> It's relatively common. >> It's relatively common. >> It's relatively common. >> Get real loosey goosey. >> Get real loosey goosey. >> Get real loosey goosey. >> They're running and they're pushing. >> They're running and they're pushing. >> They're running and they're pushing. They're like, "It's a 50 mile race. I'm They're like, "It's a 50 mile race. I'm They're like, "It's a 50 mile race. I'm going for it. I got to take a dump. I going for it. I got to take a dump. I going for it. I got to take a dump. I I'm about to win. I'm going to [ __ ] I'm about to win. I'm going to [ __ ] I'm about to win. I'm going to [ __ ] myself." Mhm. myself." Mhm. myself." Mhm. >> And this is relatively common. I looked >> And this is relatively common. I looked >> And this is relatively common. I looked it up. Do you know what percentage of it up. Do you know what percentage of it up. Do you know what percentage of elite endurance athletes have pooped elite endurance athletes have pooped elite endurance athletes have pooped themselves during a race? themselves during a race? themselves during a race? >> It's got to be like 80. >> It's got to be like 80. >> It's got to be like 80. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> 5 to 20%. >> 5 to 20%. >> 5 to 20%. >> Okay. That was >> Okay. That was >> Okay. That was >> still a big percentage. >> still a big percentage. >> still a big percentage. >> Way that then you'd be at a race like >> Way that then you'd be at a race like >> Way that then you'd be at a race like everyone should [laughter] everyone should [laughter] everyone should [laughter] >> 80%. >> 80%. >> 80%. >> I I don't I don't go to races. >> I I don't I don't go to races. >> I I don't I don't go to races. >> Listen, I do more than six reps on a >> Listen, I do more than six reps on a >> Listen, I do more than six reps on a press and [laughter] press and [laughter] press and [laughter] like I felt that. Can you imagine if it like I felt that. Can you imagine if it like I felt that. Can you imagine if it was like 80% of the racers you running was like 80% of the racers you running was like 80% of the racers you running this big ass this big ass marathon this big ass this big ass marathon this big ass this big ass marathon you're like damn everybody you're like damn everybody you're like damn everybody >> somebody breaks something [laughter] >> somebody breaks something [laughter] >> somebody breaks something [laughter] >> but five to 20% >> but five to 20% >> but five to 20% >> that that is a lot I mean >> that that is a lot I mean >> that that is a lot I mean >> if you have a thousand runners that's >> if you have a thousand runners that's >> if you have a thousand runners that's like 50 like 50 like 50 >> crap themselves while running >> crap themselves while running >> crap themselves while running >> that's unbelievable >> that's unbelievable >> that's unbelievable >> that's I would that's not worth >> that's I would that's not worth >> that's I would that's not worth >> it's not that serious take care of that >> it's not that serious take care of that >> it's not that serious take care of that before you start running before you start running before you start running >> although although that being said did >> although although that being said did >> although although that being said did you guys see the guy break the world you guys see the guy break the world you guys see the guy break the world record [snorts] record [snorts] record [snorts] >> yes on the mile >> yes on the mile >> yes on the mile >> did you see how fast he ran >> did you see how fast he ran >> did you see how fast he ran >> 3 minutes 45 seconds. >> 3 minutes 45 seconds. >> 3 minutes 45 seconds. >> What? >> What? >> What? >> Bro, he was running over 16. First of >> Bro, he was running over 16. First of >> Bro, he was running over 16. First of all, he was running faster than than all, he was running faster than than all, he was running faster than than than the average athlete can sprint. The than the average athlete can sprint. The than the average athlete can sprint. The average person can sprint. average person can sprint. average person can sprint. >> What? Over 60 mph the whole time. >> What? Over 60 mph the whole time. >> What? Over 60 mph the whole time. >> Not [clears throat] 60. >> Not [clears throat] 60. >> Not [clears throat] 60. >> 16. >> 16. >> 16. >> Oh, I was like, come on, bro. I was >> Oh, I was like, come on, bro. I was >> Oh, I was like, come on, bro. I was like, you stop running 60 mph. like, you stop running 60 mph. like, you stop running 60 mph. >> 16, bro. [laughter] >> 16, bro. [laughter] >> 16, bro. [laughter] >> You know how fast that is? >> You know how fast that is? >> You know how fast that is? >> Yeah. 16 to run. Heck yeah, >> Yeah. 16 to run. Heck yeah, >> Yeah. 16 to run. Heck yeah, >> bro. 3 minutes and what? 45? >> bro. 3 minutes and what? 45? >> bro. 3 minutes and what? 45? >> 345. >> 345. >> 345. >> That is >> That is >> That is >> What's wild about that was what a big >> What's wild about that was what a big >> What's wild about that was what a big deal that, you know, the whole four the deal that, you know, the whole four the deal that, you know, the whole four the four-minute mile thing, right? Like four-minute mile thing, right? Like four-minute mile thing, right? Like white dude by the way. white dude by the way. white dude by the way. >> It was not a Kenyon. >> It was not a Kenyon. >> It was not a Kenyon. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Yeah, you're right. >> Yeah, you're right. >> It was a white dude. Pull up his pull. >> It was a white dude. Pull up his pull. >> It was a white dude. Pull up his pull. >> Yeah, I mean he was tall. Tall. I would >> Yeah, I mean he was tall. Tall. I would >> Yeah, I mean he was tall. Tall. I would have assumed whatever, dude. We every have assumed whatever, dude. We every have assumed whatever, dude. We every [laughter] win they can get. [laughter] win they can get. [laughter] win they can get. >> Give it to him. >> Give it to him. >> Give it to him. >> I get their asses kicked and ready all >> I get their asses kicked and ready all >> I get their asses kicked and ready all the time. the time. the time. >> Yeah, dude. There he is. 3 minutes 42 >> Yeah, dude. There he is. 3 minutes 42 >> Yeah, dude. There he is. 3 minutes 42 seconds. seconds. seconds. >> 42 seconds. Not even 45 seconds. >> 42 seconds. Not even 45 seconds. >> 42 seconds. Not even 45 seconds. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pull up his picture. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pull up his picture. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pull up his picture. >> I mean, that's just happened. >> I mean, that's just happened. >> I mean, that's just happened. >> He's a British guy of all things. >> He's a British guy of all things. >> He's a British guy of all things. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Was [clears throat] it the original? >> Was [clears throat] it the original? >> Was [clears throat] it the original? Wow. Look at that. He's a very white Wow. Look at that. He's a very white Wow. Look at that. He's a very white guy. Uh, [laughter] guy. Uh, [laughter] guy. Uh, [laughter] was it the very first record broken by a was it the very first record broken by a was it the very first record broken by a British guy? He was, right? Roger. British guy? He was, right? Roger. British guy? He was, right? Roger. Banister. Yeah. Roger. Roger Banister. Banister. Yeah. Roger. Roger Banister. Banister. Yeah. Roger. Roger Banister. >> Yeah, Roger. Yeah. >> Yeah, Roger. Yeah. >> Yeah, Roger. Yeah. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Oh, I didn't know that. >> Yeah, it was a British British. >> Yeah, it was a British British. >> Yeah, it was a British British. Interesting. Yeah. The first four-minute Interesting. Yeah. The first four-minute Interesting. Yeah. The first four-minute mile. mile. mile. >> I mean, that I mean it was such a big >> I mean, that I mean it was such a big >> I mean, that I mean it was such a big deal. They thought that four-minute was deal. They thought that four-minute was deal. They thought that four-minute was impossible. Four-minute happen. impossible. Four-minute happen. impossible. Four-minute happen. >> You know, they had scientists come out >> You know, they had scientists come out >> You know, they had scientists come out at that time. at that time. at that time. >> Yeah. It was impossible. They said it >> Yeah. It was impossible. They said it >> Yeah. It was impossible. They said it was humanly impossible. was humanly impossible. was humanly impossible. >> Was that still when they had the dirt >> Was that still when they had the dirt >> Was that still when they had the dirt track or the uh Yeah. And now it's, you track or the uh Yeah. And now it's, you track or the uh Yeah. And now it's, you know, the what what consistency is the know, the what what consistency is the know, the what what consistency is the track? Is it that like kind of composite track? Is it that like kind of composite track? Is it that like kind of composite like rubber? And like rubber? And like rubber? And >> 1954 he did it. Uh he's a British >> 1954 he did it. Uh he's a British >> 1954 he did it. Uh he's a British medical student. God, why is it so medical student. God, why is it so medical student. God, why is it so sometimes people just make me sometimes people just make me sometimes people just make me embarrassed? embarrassed? embarrassed? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh, you ran the fastest mile ever. >> Yeah. Oh, you ran the fastest mile ever. >> Yeah. Oh, you ran the fastest mile ever. Cool. Oh, and you're also a medical Cool. Oh, and you're also a medical Cool. Oh, and you're also a medical school student. Okay. What else do you school student. Okay. What else do you school student. Okay. What else do you do? do? do? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's pretty amazing. But after that, >> That's pretty amazing. But after that, >> That's pretty amazing. But after that, like hell of people broke it. like hell of people broke it. like hell of people broke it. >> Yeah. Total psychological got high >> Yeah. Total psychological got high >> Yeah. Total psychological got high school kids that do it now, right? So, school kids that do it now, right? So, school kids that do it now, right? So, it's so wild to think that. it's so wild to think that. it's so wild to think that. >> Has a woman ever broke the four-minute >> Has a woman ever broke the four-minute >> Has a woman ever broke the four-minute mile, Doug? mile, Doug? mile, Doug? >> I want to look that up. Good >> I want to look that up. Good >> I want to look that up. Good >> question. >> question. >> question. >> Yeah, because that would be uh >> Yeah, because that would be uh >> Yeah, because that would be uh interesting to see because that brings interesting to see because that brings interesting to see because that brings me to another topic on on grip strength me to another topic on on grip strength me to another topic on on grip strength that I've no woman has ever officially that I've no woman has ever officially that I've no woman has ever officially run run run >> a Well, that's going to change soon, >> a Well, that's going to change soon, >> a Well, that's going to change soon, right? Cuz right? Cuz [laughter] [laughter] >> you had to go there. You had to go. You >> you had to go there. You had to go. You >> you had to go there. You had to go. You had to go there. had to go there. had to go there. >> So, they did a study on I see. >> So, they did a study on I see. >> So, they did a study on I see. >> It's all right. We're gonna go there. >> It's all right. We're gonna go there. >> It's all right. We're gonna go there. So, there's they did a study on So, there's they did a study on So, there's they did a study on [laughter] on grip strength. [laughter] on grip strength. [laughter] on grip strength. >> Great. Uh, and did you know that the >> Great. Uh, and did you know that the >> Great. Uh, and did you know that the average um the average 20some year old average um the average 20some year old average um the average 20some year old female has a strength of a 70-year-old female has a strength of a 70-year-old female has a strength of a 70-year-old man? man? man? >> Just to show the difference. Yeah. >> Just to show the difference. Yeah. >> Just to show the difference. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Just to show the difference in actual >> Just to show the difference in actual >> Just to show the difference in actual strength strength strength >> time. Was that in old time? Okay. It's >> time. Was that in old time? Okay. It's >> time. Was that in old time? Okay. It's now. now. now. >> Yeah. Just to show the difference in >> Yeah. Just to show the difference in >> Yeah. Just to show the difference in strength. When they say, you know, strength. When they say, you know, strength. When they say, you know, there's a big difference in strength. there's a big difference in strength. there's a big difference in strength. It's a pretty damn big difference It's a pretty damn big difference It's a pretty damn big difference in in reality. But, you know, that's a in in reality. But, you know, that's a in in reality. But, you know, that's a huge that's a huge huge that's a huge huge that's a huge >> If we stay in reality. >> If we stay in reality. >> If we stay in reality. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Hey, you is it you who has the thumbs >> Hey, you is it you who has the thumbs >> Hey, you is it you who has the thumbs down on the BMW? like down on the BMW? like down on the BMW? like >> Yeah, I do. I >> Yeah, I do. I >> Yeah, I do. I >> I had another story with that was so we >> I had another story with that was so we >> I had another story with that was so we were in downtown uh San Louis Abyispo were in downtown uh San Louis Abyispo were in downtown uh San Louis Abyispo and it was funny cuz um there was a guy and it was funny cuz um there was a guy and it was funny cuz um there was a guy that had souped up I don't know what that had souped up I don't know what that had souped up I don't know what model BMW but it was like model BMW but it was like model BMW but it was like >> to the point where you watch all those >> to the point where you watch all those >> to the point where you watch all those videos that like they'll just scream the videos that like they'll just scream the videos that like they'll just scream the engine's so loud. Um and so he had done engine's so loud. Um and so he had done engine's so loud. Um and so he had done something with supercharged or whatever something with supercharged or whatever something with supercharged or whatever and made it to where it was like so and made it to where it was like so and made it to where it was like so incredibly loud. Yeah. And so he's like, incredibly loud. Yeah. And so he's like, incredibly loud. Yeah. And so he's like, you know, trying to get ego boost and do you know, trying to get ego boost and do you know, trying to get ego boost and do his whole thing and like cruise his whole thing and like cruise his whole thing and like cruise downtown. He went a couple laps and downtown. He went a couple laps and downtown. He went a couple laps and >> gurgling and crackling like crazy. >> gurgling and crackling like crazy. >> gurgling and crackling like crazy. >> Crackling. But like, but it was like, >> Crackling. But like, but it was like, >> Crackling. But like, but it was like, woo. To the point where like somebody woo. To the point where like somebody woo. To the point where like somebody jumped because he just did it like right jumped because he just did it like right jumped because he just did it like right next to him. Yeah. And so he's like next to him. Yeah. And so he's like next to him. Yeah. And so he's like coming back through again and like me coming back through again and like me coming back through again and like me and Courtney are crossing the street and and Courtney are crossing the street and and Courtney are crossing the street and she just looks over him, stops mid track she just looks over him, stops mid track she just looks over him, stops mid track and she goes like this. She's like, and she goes like this. She's like, and she goes like this. She's like, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Courtney did that. >> Courtney did that. >> Courtney did that. >> Yeah. And I was just I just like, "Oh my >> Yeah. And I was just I just like, "Oh my >> Yeah. And I was just I just like, "Oh my god, dude. I didn't I just start god, dude. I didn't I just start god, dude. I didn't I just start laughing cuz I'm like can I just can I laughing cuz I'm like can I just can I laughing cuz I'm like can I just can I just say something just say something just say something >> that's my wife >> that's my wife >> that's my wife >> you know can I just say something this >> you know can I just say something this >> you know can I just say something this is so true I think uh like wives do this is so true I think uh like wives do this is so true I think uh like wives do this girlfriends do this they do that in girlfriends do this they do that in girlfriends do this they do that in public there's no threat to them public there's no threat to them public there's no threat to them >> I uh I went through this whole >> I uh I went through this whole >> I uh I went through this whole >> Did you have this conversation my wife >> Did you have this conversation my wife >> Did you have this conversation my wife did something like that over the weekend did something like that over the weekend did something like that over the weekend >> yes >> yes >> yes >> dude same thing and she's going to get >> dude same thing and she's going to get >> dude same thing and she's going to get so mad when she listen to this but it's so mad when she listen to this but it's so mad when she listen to this but it's true true true >> but but to her credit though so it was >> but but to her credit though so it was >> but but to her credit though so it was funny because uh so he was in the car funny because uh so he was in the car funny because uh so he was in the car with another girl and like It it really with another girl and like It it really with another girl and like It it really affected him. You could tell cuz he affected him. You could tell cuz he affected him. You could tell cuz he started driving. He's like, started driving. He's like, started driving. He's like, >> he didn't [laughter] >> he didn't [laughter] >> he didn't [laughter] he didn't do it again. And so she just he didn't do it again. And so she just he didn't do it again. And so she just crushed his ego, dude. So bad. I was crushed his ego, dude. So bad. I was crushed his ego, dude. So bad. I was dying laughing. I was like, "This guy dying laughing. I was like, "This guy dying laughing. I was like, "This guy was all like was all like was all like >> I mean that was like that was like old >> I mean that was like that was like old >> I mean that was like that was like old lady moment for her." Like my old man lady moment for her." Like my old man lady moment for her." Like my old man moment where I yelled at the lady with moment where I yelled at the lady with moment where I yelled at the lady with the dog. the dog. the dog. >> You know what though? Let me ask you >> You know what though? Let me ask you >> You know what though? Let me ask you like impulse. You know what I'm saying? like impulse. You know what I'm saying? like impulse. You know what I'm saying? Just Just Just >> let me ask you as guys when you call >> let me ask you as guys when you call >> let me ask you as guys when you call someone out, you've already calculated someone out, you've already calculated someone out, you've already calculated in your head. It may be a confrontation. in your head. It may be a confrontation. in your head. It may be a confrontation. >> Yeah. You got to be ready for to throw >> Yeah. You got to be ready for to throw >> Yeah. You got to be ready for to throw down if you're going to do something. down if you're going to do something. down if you're going to do something. >> That doesn't happen. I don't think to uh >> That doesn't happen. I don't think to uh >> That doesn't happen. I don't think to uh a lot of women. I don't think that a lot of women. I don't think that a lot of women. I don't think that happens. The calculation of I say happens. The calculation of I say happens. The calculation of I say >> not not when she's holding your hand. >> not not when she's holding your hand. >> not not when she's holding your hand. >> Correct. [laughter] >> Correct. [laughter] >> Correct. [laughter] >> That happened this weekend, dude. This >> That happened this weekend, dude. This >> That happened this weekend, dude. This we were going and some dude on a we were going and some dude on a we were going and some dude on a skateboard with his dog and he was like skateboard with his dog and he was like skateboard with his dog and he was like pulling up his dog with a leash. pulling up his dog with a leash. pulling up his dog with a leash. >> My wife opens the door. She's going to >> My wife opens the door. She's going to >> My wife opens the door. She's going to go like fight this dude. Like let go of go like fight this dude. Like let go of go like fight this dude. Like let go of the and I'm like the and I'm like the and I'm like >> and you know she's like really >> and you know she's like really >> and you know she's like really traumatized by like how he dare he do traumatized by like how he dare he do traumatized by like how he dare he do that. I try to tell her like honey when that. I try to tell her like honey when that. I try to tell her like honey when you do that you do that you do that >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You're inviting. You're inviting. You're You're inviting. You're inviting. You're You're inviting. You're inviting. You're inviting me. inviting me. inviting me. >> You [laughter] should ask me first. >> You [laughter] should ask me first. >> You [laughter] should ask me first. >> Cuz you ain't going to get the fight, >> Cuz you ain't going to get the fight, >> Cuz you ain't going to get the fight, dude. It's going to be me. dude. It's going to be me. dude. It's going to be me. >> No. Know your battles. >> No. Know your battles. >> No. Know your battles. >> There's a whole side to >> There's a whole side to >> There's a whole side to >> She gets so mad when she hears this, >> She gets so mad when she hears this, >> She gets so mad when she hears this, too. She's like, "You was going to do too. She's like, "You was going to do too. She's like, "You was going to do I'll fight him." Like, [laughter] I'll fight him." Like, [laughter] I'll fight him." Like, [laughter] >> I'll fight. >> I'll fight. >> I'll fight. >> Oh, come on, baby. >> Oh, come on, baby. >> Oh, come on, baby. >> Move aside. >> Move aside. >> Move aside. >> All right. [laughter] Go ahead. You >> All right. [laughter] Go ahead. You >> All right. [laughter] Go ahead. You imagine that? imagine that? imagine that? >> Taking a high heel. >> Taking a high heel. >> Taking a high heel. >> All right. Cool. It's oneonone. >> All right. Cool. It's oneonone. >> All right. Cool. It's oneonone. Everybody stand back. Go [laughter] Everybody stand back. Go [laughter] Everybody stand back. Go [laughter] ahead, babe. Do ahead, babe. Do ahead, babe. Do >> you think? >> you think? >> you think? >> Yeah. Oh, when he wins. >> Yeah. Oh, when he wins. >> Yeah. Oh, when he wins. >> You know, those those uh those are It's >> You know, those those uh those are It's >> You know, those those uh those are It's so lame. Those are those are tuned to do so lame. Those are those are tuned to do so lame. Those are those are tuned to do that. So So they pay somebody and it's that. So So they pay somebody and it's that. So So they pay somebody and it's like your car is not like any faster. like your car is not like any faster. like your car is not like any faster. It's like it's all exhaust and it's all It's like it's all exhaust and it's all It's like it's all exhaust and it's all tuning to make it sound like that. tuning to make it sound like that. tuning to make it sound like that. >> That's what I thought. I was like, "This >> That's what I thought. I was like, "This >> That's what I thought. I was like, "This is all sound." is all sound." is all sound." >> Yeah. It's not cool. It's like It's cool >> Yeah. It's not cool. It's like It's cool >> Yeah. It's not cool. It's like It's cool if your stuff is really really fast and if your stuff is really really fast and if your stuff is really really fast and it sounds really fast, but it's like to it sounds really fast, but it's like to it sounds really fast, but it's like to to tune it. They call it burbble tunes. to tune it. They call it burbble tunes. to tune it. They call it burbble tunes. >> Burbble. >> Burbble. >> Burbble. >> Yeah. Burbble tune. That's what it is. >> Yeah. Burbble tune. That's what it is. >> Yeah. Burbble tune. That's what it is. Like you like literally ask for it. You Like you like literally ask for it. You Like you like literally ask for it. You get a burbble tune and BMWs are like get a burbble tune and BMWs are like get a burbble tune and BMWs are like famous for it. Like guys that drive BMW. famous for it. Like guys that drive BMW. famous for it. Like guys that drive BMW. >> Does it affect the performance? >> Does it affect the performance? >> Does it affect the performance? >> I mean, it gives them a couple >> I mean, it gives them a couple >> I mean, it gives them a couple horsepower. horsepower. horsepower. >> Oh, it does. >> Oh, it does. >> Oh, it does. >> Oh, yeah. It gives them a little >> Oh, yeah. It gives them a little >> Oh, yeah. It gives them a little >> Oh, so it makes the sound and it's a >> Oh, so it makes the sound and it's a >> Oh, so it makes the sound and it's a little bit better. little bit better. little bit better. >> Yeah, that's a win-win. >> Yeah, that's a win-win. >> Yeah, that's a win-win. >> Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. You >> Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. You >> Yeah, a little bit. A little bit. You know, know, know, >> remember the exhaust when we were kids? >> remember the exhaust when we were kids? >> remember the exhaust when we were kids? >> Use it. I guess >> Use it. I guess >> Use it. I guess >> the exhaust that were popular when we >> the exhaust that were popular when we >> the exhaust that were popular when we were kids were ridiculous. were kids were ridiculous. were kids were ridiculous. >> I had the I had the big I had I had Look >> I had the I had the big I had I had Look >> I had the I had the big I had I had Look it up, Doug. I had I had the the Dunk it up, Doug. I had I had the the Dunk it up, Doug. I had I had the the Dunk exhaust. That's what it was called. exhaust. That's what it was called. exhaust. That's what it was called. >> Look it up. Look it up. >> Look it up. Look it up. >> Look it up. Look it up. >> And your car was a flow master guy. >> And your car was a flow master guy. >> And your car was a flow master guy. That's crazy. What was your car pushing That's crazy. What was your car pushing That's crazy. What was your car pushing horsepower? horsepower? horsepower? >> I mean, probably 290. >> I mean, probably 290. >> I mean, probably 290. >> Oh, that's not bad. >> Oh, that's not bad. >> Oh, that's not bad. >> Well, I had I had cams, cam gears, >> Well, I had I had cams, cam gears, >> Well, I had I had cams, cam gears, pulley, headers, a port. pulley, headers, a port. pulley, headers, a port. >> I was probably over 300, actually. >> I was probably over 300, actually. >> I was probably over 300, actually. >> Bro, that's fast. >> Bro, that's fast. >> Bro, that's fast. >> Yeah, that was over there. Yeah, but you >> Yeah, that was over there. Yeah, but you >> Yeah, that was over there. Yeah, but you hear [laughter] hear [laughter] hear [laughter] >> Did you hear everything I did to it? I >> Did you hear everything I did to it? I >> Did you hear everything I did to it? I did every single thing you could do to did every single thing you could do to did every single thing you could do to it other than a turbo on it. it other than a turbo on it. it other than a turbo on it. >> You didn't turbo it. And you still got >> You didn't turbo it. And you still got >> You didn't turbo it. And you still got 290 out of it. That's crazy. 290 out of it. That's crazy. 290 out of it. That's crazy. >> Probably more. >> Probably more. >> Probably more. >> Wow. Yeah, probably cuz I think stock >> Wow. Yeah, probably cuz I think stock >> Wow. Yeah, probably cuz I think stock those Integra those Integraas had those Integra those Integraas had those Integra those Integraas had probably 250. probably 250. probably 250. >> No, no, they did not. Type R. >> No, no, they did not. Type R. >> No, no, they did not. Type R. >> No, not a type. Not even a Type R. Look >> No, not a type. Not even a Type R. Look >> No, not a type. Not even a Type R. Look up LS Integra. Uh uh Acura LS Integra. up LS Integra. Uh uh Acura LS Integra. up LS Integra. Uh uh Acura LS Integra. >> I guarantee you it's it's either under >> I guarantee you it's it's either under >> I guarantee you it's it's either under No way. No way. No way. >> Oh, you think it's less? >> Oh, you think it's less? >> Oh, you think it's less? >> Way less. >> Way less. >> Way less. >> Really? 180. 180 to 250. >> Really? 180. 180 to 250. >> Really? 180. 180 to 250. >> It was It was No, it was just over 200. >> It was It was No, it was just over 200. >> It was It was No, it was just over 200. >> I'm going to guess. I'm going to say >> I'm going to guess. I'm going to say >> I'm going to guess. I'm going to say >> I think it was 212 if I'm not mistaken. >> I think it was 212 if I'm not mistaken. >> I think it was 212 if I'm not mistaken. >> That'd be crazy if it's that low. >> That'd be crazy if it's that low. >> That'd be crazy if it's that low. >> Oh, it's it was Bro, you don't remember? >> Oh, it's it was Bro, you don't remember? >> Oh, it's it was Bro, you don't remember? Remember back then how Remember back then how Remember back then how >> Acura Integra >> Acura Integra >> Acura Integra 1998 Integra uh No, no, no. Horsepower. 1998 Integra uh No, no, no. Horsepower. 1998 Integra uh No, no, no. Horsepower. 1998 1998 1998 uh Integra. uh Integra. uh Integra. >> This will be fun cuz I actually don't >> This will be fun cuz I actually don't >> This will be fun cuz I actually don't remember this at all. remember this at all. remember this at all. >> Doug, why do you have exhaust up there? >> Doug, why do you have exhaust up there? >> Doug, why do you have exhaust up there? >> I don't know. He said exhaust. >> I don't know. He said exhaust. >> I don't know. He said exhaust. >> That That was before, Doug. That >> That That was before, Doug. That >> That That was before, Doug. That [laughter] was before. Integra [laughter] was before. Integra [laughter] was before. Integra horsepower. There we go. There we go. horsepower. There we go. There we go. horsepower. There we go. There we go. I'll ask horsepower. Okay. I'll ask horsepower. Okay. I'll ask horsepower. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Let's see. Oh my god. 14. >> Okay. Let's see. Oh my god. 14. >> Okay. Let's see. Oh my god. 14. >> I told you. >> I told you. >> I told you. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> SO THE SO THE Type R was like 197. >> SO THE SO THE Type R was like 197. >> SO THE SO THE Type R was like 197. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I So back then it was it >> Yeah. Yeah. But I So back then it was it >> Yeah. Yeah. But I So back then it was it was better to get an LS because Type R was better to get an LS because Type R was better to get an LS because Type R had everything done. had everything done. had everything done. >> You got it to 290. There's no way >> You got it to 290. There's no way >> You got it to 290. There's no way without turbos. without turbos. without turbos. >> Do did you hear everything I had on it? >> Do did you hear everything I had on it? >> Do did you hear everything I had on it? Cams, Cams, Cams, >> cam gears, underdrive pulley, ignition >> cam gears, underdrive pulley, ignition >> cam gears, underdrive pulley, ignition system, port and pol. I mean, I had system, port and pol. I mean, I had system, port and pol. I mean, I had >> get more. You can get 100 plus >> get more. You can get 100 plus >> get more. You can get 100 plus horsepower. horsepower. horsepower. >> Maybe you're right. Maybe it was up to >> Maybe you're right. Maybe it was up to >> Maybe you're right. Maybe it was up to 250. Maybe that's what I got it up to. 250. Maybe that's what I got it up to. 250. Maybe that's what I got it up to. >> I bet. Yeah, you would be surprised. >> I bet. Yeah, you would be surprised. >> I bet. Yeah, you would be surprised. Cars were so slow back then, Cars were so slow back then, Cars were so slow back then, >> bro. I cannot believe it was only 140 >> bro. I cannot believe it was only 140 >> bro. I cannot believe it was only 140 horsepower. horsepower. horsepower. >> My Did I tell you when I used to when I >> My Did I tell you when I used to when I >> My Did I tell you when I used to when I had to shift Yeah. had to shift Yeah. had to shift Yeah. >> my stereo would come out of the dash. >> my stereo would come out of the dash. >> my stereo would come out of the dash. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> So much power. >> So much power. >> So much power. >> Oh, yeah. It was like the coolest thing >> Oh, yeah. It was like the coolest thing >> Oh, yeah. It was like the coolest thing ever. Ask someone, ever. Ask someone, ever. Ask someone, [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> bro. My 400 >> bro. My 400 >> bro. My 400 >> your stereo end up in their lap. >> your stereo end up in their lap. >> your stereo end up in their lap. >> Hold my stereo. We're going to take off. >> Hold my stereo. We're going to take off. >> Hold my stereo. We're going to take off. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I swear like lug nuts flew off my truck, >> I swear like lug nuts flew off my truck, >> I swear like lug nuts flew off my truck, dude. dude. dude. >> Dude, I know this because so I had a >> Dude, I know this because so I had a >> Dude, I know this because so I had a VR6. I had a Golf VR six, which was in VR6. I had a Golf VR six, which was in VR6. I had a Golf VR six, which was in that category of life. Remember they had that category of life. Remember they had that category of life. Remember they had the they had the Eclipse Turbo, the they had the Eclipse Turbo, the they had the Eclipse Turbo, >> they had the, you know, the VR6, you had >> they had the, you know, the VR6, you had >> they had the, you know, the VR6, you had the Integra Type R, and they were all the Integra Type R, and they were all the Integra Type R, and they were all around 200 horsepower, and that was around 200 horsepower, and that was around 200 horsepower, and that was considered fast. Then you had the Camaro considered fast. Then you had the Camaro considered fast. Then you had the Camaro Super Sport which was like oh my god Super Sport which was like oh my god Super Sport which was like oh my god that was like 300 something. that was like 300 something. that was like 300 something. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's how much that was considered a >> That's how much that was considered a >> That's how much that was considered a ton ton ton >> back then. >> back then. >> back then. >> 300 horsepower. Now you buy you buy a >> 300 horsepower. Now you buy you buy a >> 300 horsepower. Now you buy you buy a minivan it's got like [laughter] almost minivan it's got like [laughter] almost minivan it's got like [laughter] almost 300. 300. 300. >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. [clears throat] I didn't even realize it was that low. I didn't even realize it was that low. I didn't even realize it was that low. So you're probably right. It's probably So you're probably right. It's probably So you're probably right. It's probably like I probably got it up to 250. like I probably got it up to 250. like I probably got it up to 250. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, that's unro everything. You >> But yeah, that's unro everything. You >> But yeah, that's unro everything. You figure figure figure >> someone's going to guarantee someone's >> someone's going to guarantee someone's >> someone's going to guarantee someone's going to write in and fix and correct going to write in and fix and correct going to write in and fix and correct all this. No, you had like all this. No, you had like all this. No, you had like >> I mean [laughter] I mean listen I would >> I mean [laughter] I mean listen I would >> I mean [laughter] I mean listen I would cuz it I didn't have that dyno so I cuz it I didn't have that dyno so I cuz it I didn't have that dyno so I didn't I didn't have the money as a kid didn't I didn't have the money as a kid didn't I didn't have the money as a kid to go get a dyno. So mine's all to go get a dyno. So mine's all to go get a dyno. So mine's all estimated horsepower and so and when you estimated horsepower and so and when you estimated horsepower and so and when you bought you bought cams they'd tell you bought you bought cams they'd tell you bought you bought cams they'd tell you you're getting an extra 15 to 20 you're getting an extra 15 to 20 you're getting an extra 15 to 20 horsepower. You bought cam gears another horsepower. You bought cam gears another horsepower. You bought cam gears another 10 horsepower. You bought exhaust 10 horsepower. You bought exhaust 10 horsepower. You bought exhaust another 10 to 15 horsepower. So another 10 to 15 horsepower. So another 10 to 15 horsepower. So everything I did was 10 but it was everything I did was 10 but it was everything I did was 10 but it was estimated. So yeah I'm sure somebody estimated. So yeah I'm sure somebody estimated. So yeah I'm sure somebody >> racing on the streets were you racing >> racing on the streets were you racing >> racing on the streets were you racing all the time? all the time? all the time? >> Yeah. Yeah. No we did all that stuff >> Yeah. Yeah. No we did all that stuff >> Yeah. Yeah. No we did all that stuff there. Back where I grew up, there was there. Back where I grew up, there was there. Back where I grew up, there was you used to meet at um In and Out at you used to meet at um In and Out at you used to meet at um In and Out at Midnight and the old country roads. Midnight and the old country roads. Midnight and the old country roads. Everyone would go out there and and drag Everyone would go out there and and drag Everyone would go out there and and drag them and stuff like that. I mean, it was them and stuff like that. I mean, it was them and stuff like that. I mean, it was quick. It's so it's so quick. It's so it's so quick. It's so it's so >> Dolan Road uh out Landing. >> Dolan Road uh out Landing. >> Dolan Road uh out Landing. >> Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that was a >> Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that was a >> Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that was a crazy one. crazy one. crazy one. >> Just a great great straightaway out in >> Just a great great straightaway out in >> Just a great great straightaway out in the country where nobody would be at at the country where nobody would be at at the country where nobody would be at at midnight. You can't hear no. It used to midnight. You can't hear no. It used to midnight. You can't hear no. It used to happen for a long time. In fact, it happen for a long time. In fact, it happen for a long time. In fact, it probably still goes on. probably still goes on. probably still goes on. >> Probably does. >> Probably does. >> Probably does. >> What's crazy now is cuz cars are so fast >> What's crazy now is cuz cars are so fast >> What's crazy now is cuz cars are so fast [clears throat] now. They're so cuz you [clears throat] now. They're so cuz you [clears throat] now. They're so cuz you know you consider know you consider know you consider >> overrated. >> overrated. >> overrated. >> Well, you consider back then >> Well, you consider back then >> Well, you consider back then >> we're coming we're going back that way >> we're coming we're going back that way >> we're coming we're going back that way >> bro. A 5-second 0 to 60 back then was >> bro. A 5-second 0 to 60 back then was >> bro. A 5-second 0 to 60 back then was fast dude. fast dude. fast dude. >> So you're all my all my buddies >> So you're all my all my buddies >> So you're all my all my buddies >> that's like a that's like a >> that's like a that's like a >> that's like a that's like a >> all my buddies that actually race cars >> all my buddies that actually race cars >> all my buddies that actually race cars that are like like true race car drivers that are like like true race car drivers that are like like true race car drivers um are like the perfect is 500 um are like the perfect is 500 um are like the perfect is 500 horsepower. horsepower. horsepower. >> Like that's true usable. >> Like that's true usable. >> Like that's true usable. >> Have a blast. It is fast. It is fun. >> Have a blast. It is fast. It is fun. >> Have a blast. It is fast. It is fun. Beyond that, it's just Beyond that, it's just Beyond that, it's just >> beyond that, it's like you you can't >> beyond that, it's like you you can't >> beyond that, it's like you you can't you're not using it if unless you got a you're not using it if unless you got a you're not using it if unless you got a perfect straightaway moment, which is perfect straightaway moment, which is perfect straightaway moment, which is freeway I5 for a split sec. And then you freeway I5 for a split sec. And then you freeway I5 for a split sec. And then you roll the dice because if a cop pulls you roll the dice because if a cop pulls you roll the dice because if a cop pulls you over and you're doing 130, 140, you hope over and you're doing 130, 140, you hope over and you're doing 130, 140, you hope he doesn't hit you with a a massive and he doesn't hit you with a a massive and he doesn't hit you with a a massive and and it'll go faster than that. But I and it'll go faster than that. But I and it'll go faster than that. But I mean, they hit you at that speed and mean, they hit you at that speed and mean, they hit you at that speed and you're and you're in that if with a car you're and you're in that if with a car you're and you're in that if with a car that's 800 horsepower, you're to 130 in that's 800 horsepower, you're to 130 in that's 800 horsepower, you're to 130 in seconds. In seconds. You ever you ever seconds. In seconds. You ever you ever seconds. In seconds. You ever you ever find it interesting that we have all find it interesting that we have all find it interesting that we have all these every state uh has speed limit these every state uh has speed limit these every state uh has speed limit laws? Every state, right? There's not a laws? Every state, right? There's not a laws? Every state, right? There's not a single state in the country where single state in the country where single state in the country where they're like, "No, no speed limits. they're like, "No, no speed limits. they're like, "No, no speed limits. >> We don't have an autobond uh anywhere in >> We don't have an autobond uh anywhere in >> We don't have an autobond uh anywhere in the country." Uh and yet car the country." Uh and yet car the country." Uh and yet car manufacturers build cars that manufacturers build cars that manufacturers build cars that >> that should be under bond. >> that should be under bond. >> that should be under bond. >> They far exceed the speed limits. Like >> They far exceed the speed limits. Like >> They far exceed the speed limits. Like the highest speed limit in the US is the highest speed limit in the US is the highest speed limit in the US is probably 75 or 80. I'd imagine there's a probably 75 or 80. I'd imagine there's a probably 75 or 80. I'd imagine there's a freeway highway somewhere that's 75. freeway highway somewhere that's 75. freeway highway somewhere that's 75. >> I've seen one that was 80. I know. Uh, >> I've seen one that was 80. I know. Uh, >> I've seen one that was 80. I know. Uh, well, Idaho there was like I feel like well, Idaho there was like I feel like well, Idaho there was like I feel like >> Arizona has Arizona has some spots. >> Arizona has Arizona has some spots. >> Arizona has Arizona has some spots. >> I think 75 might be the highest speed >> I think 75 might be the highest speed >> I think 75 might be the highest speed limit in the US or cuz let's see. limit in the US or cuz let's see. limit in the US or cuz let's see. >> 85 85. >> 85 85. >> 85 85. >> Oh, 85. Okay. Texas. >> Oh, 85. Okay. Texas. >> Oh, 85. Okay. Texas. >> So 85 is the highest anywhere. And I >> So 85 is the highest anywhere. And I >> So 85 is the highest anywhere. And I guarantee most states don't have that. guarantee most states don't have that. guarantee most states don't have that. Most states. Yeah, definitely. Most states. Yeah, definitely. Most states. Yeah, definitely. >> And yet cars, >> And yet cars, >> And yet cars, >> they could easily surpass that. They've >> they could easily surpass that. They've >> they could easily surpass that. They've got hundreds of horsepower. They keep got hundreds of horsepower. They keep got hundreds of horsepower. They keep getting faster. getting faster. getting faster. >> You ever wonder why? Like if if this was >> You ever wonder why? Like if if this was >> You ever wonder why? Like if if this was such a thing, why are we making cars such a thing, why are we making cars such a thing, why are we making cars like that? Why don't they like that? Why don't they like that? Why don't they >> Well, go back. How much do speeding >> Well, go back. How much do speeding >> Well, go back. How much do speeding tickets fund? tickets fund? tickets fund? >> Bingo. >> Bingo. >> Bingo. >> Yeah. How much does speeding tickets >> Yeah. How much does speeding tickets >> Yeah. How much does speeding tickets fund the entire thing? fund the entire thing? fund the entire thing? >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> So, it's all part of it, I imagine. >> So, it's all part of it, I imagine. >> So, it's all part of it, I imagine. >> I wonder how much revenue they bring. >> I wonder how much revenue they bring. >> I wonder how much revenue they bring. >> Yeah. What percentage of revenue do the >> Yeah. What percentage of revenue do the >> Yeah. What percentage of revenue do the police departments make off of speeding police departments make off of speeding police departments make off of speeding tickets? That'd be the Google. tickets? That'd be the Google. tickets? That'd be the Google. >> And then, uh I I'm sure it's quite a >> And then, uh I I'm sure it's quite a >> And then, uh I I'm sure it's quite a bit. So, of course, bit. So, of course, bit. So, of course, >> I mean, >> I mean, >> I mean, >> do you think they have media? >> do you think they have media? >> do you think they have media? >> I wouldn't want them I wouldn't want >> I wouldn't want them I wouldn't want >> I wouldn't want them I wouldn't want them what you're alluding to. I wouldn't them what you're alluding to. I wouldn't them what you're alluding to. I wouldn't want them to do. I would much rather want them to do. I would much rather want them to do. I would much rather have the ability to break the law but have the ability to break the law but have the ability to break the law but encourage you not to break the law than encourage you not to break the law than encourage you not to break the law than to say we're going to control you and to say we're going to control you and to say we're going to control you and control your car and control your car and control your car and >> 1 to 3% of the total city. >> 1 to 3% of the total city. >> 1 to 3% of the total city. >> Oh, that's not much at all. >> Oh, that's not much at all. >> Oh, that's not much at all. >> Uh no, it goes into municipal or state >> Uh no, it goes into municipal or state >> Uh no, it goes into municipal or state general funds. So that's that's not general funds. So that's that's not general funds. So that's that's not entirely true. So what we got to see is entirely true. So what we got to see is entirely true. So what we got to see is a tin a few tiny municipalities or speed a tin a few tiny municipalities or speed a tin a few tiny municipalities or speed trap towns rely on fines for up to 50 to trap towns rely on fines for up to 50 to trap towns rely on fines for up to 50 to 89% of their general revenue. Well, 89% of their general revenue. Well, 89% of their general revenue. Well, that's small that's a small towns that's small that's a small towns that's small that's a small towns though. though. though. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> 50 to 80 something%. I I mean smaller I >> 50 to 80 something%. I I mean smaller I >> 50 to 80 something%. I I mean smaller I mean larger places what is it 10 15 20%. mean larger places what is it 10 15 20%. mean larger places what is it 10 15 20%. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> That's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> That's crazy. >> Maybe one of our cop friends can >> Maybe one of our cop friends can >> Maybe one of our cop friends can >> educate. So do you guys think they have >> educate. So do you guys think they have >> educate. So do you guys think they have meetings like that where like hey guys meetings like that where like hey guys meetings like that where like hey guys the quarter is almost over. the quarter is almost over. the quarter is almost over. >> Well I maybe one of our cop friends can >> Well I maybe one of our cop friends can >> Well I maybe one of our cop friends can reach out and tell us that because I've reach out and tell us that because I've reach out and tell us that because I've always heard that when it comes to the always heard that when it comes to the always heard that when it comes to the end of the month and they're not hitting end of the month and they're not hitting end of the month and they're not hitting their quarterlys at the end of the month their quarterlys at the end of the month their quarterlys at the end of the month that's the highest likely time you'll that's the highest likely time you'll that's the highest likely time you'll get pulled over is like the last few get pulled over is like the last few get pulled over is like the last few days of a month. days of a month. days of a month. >> I see a lot of speed traps. Yeah. Either >> I see a lot of speed traps. Yeah. Either >> I see a lot of speed traps. Yeah. Either >> I don't know if that's true, you know. I >> I don't know if that's true, you know. I >> I don't know if that's true, you know. I don't know. I don't know how much that don't know. I don't know how much that don't know. I don't know how much that is. is. is. >> Yeah. Cuz they could very easily we >> Yeah. Cuz they could very easily we >> Yeah. Cuz they could very easily we could easily legislate that people can't could easily legislate that people can't could easily legislate that people can't speed. That's an easy thing to speed. That's an easy thing to speed. That's an easy thing to legislate, but they don't want to. And I legislate, but they don't want to. And I legislate, but they don't want to. And I don't think people want it either. don't think people want it either. don't think people want it either. >> That would be horrible. >> That would be horrible. >> That would be horrible. >> Lame. That would be [laughter] a lame. I >> Lame. That would be [laughter] a lame. I >> Lame. That would be [laughter] a lame. I mean, imagine what I mean, you know what mean, imagine what I mean, you know what mean, imagine what I mean, you know what the downstream effects of that could be, the downstream effects of that could be, the downstream effects of that could be, though? Like, so then you all a sudden though? Like, so then you all a sudden though? Like, so then you all a sudden you regulate all these I mean, you would you regulate all these I mean, you would you regulate all these I mean, you would crush a market completely. Mhm. crush a market completely. Mhm. crush a market completely. Mhm. >> You there's a there's a huge market in >> You there's a there's a huge market in >> You there's a there's a huge market in in in in that in in in that in in in that >> performance >> performance >> performance >> and and sport like why own a Ferrari or >> and and sport like why own a Ferrari or >> and and sport like why own a Ferrari or Lamborghini if it only goes 60 mph? Like Lamborghini if it only goes 60 mph? Like Lamborghini if it only goes 60 mph? Like that would be super lame. Like that that would be super lame. Like that that would be super lame. Like that would be I mean so you're you're taking would be I mean so you're you're taking would be I mean so you're you're taking like a a higher and a lot of those even like a a higher and a lot of those even like a a higher and a lot of those even take forget Ferrari even a a Mercedes take forget Ferrari even a a Mercedes take forget Ferrari even a a Mercedes S63 like a a luxury $200,000 car that S63 like a a luxury $200,000 car that S63 like a a luxury $200,000 car that goes really fast. That's part of what goes really fast. That's part of what goes really fast. That's part of what makes that and like that's an expensive makes that and like that's an expensive makes that and like that's an expensive car that car that car that >> so you would you would hurt a lot of big >> so you would you would hurt a lot of big >> so you would you would hurt a lot of big companies that make a lot of revenue and companies that make a lot of revenue and companies that make a lot of revenue and pay a lot of taxes towards it. So it'd pay a lot of taxes towards it. So it'd pay a lot of taxes towards it. So it'd have an interesting have an interesting have an interesting >> would suck all kinds of stuff that would >> would suck all kinds of stuff that would >> would suck all kinds of stuff that would >> suck suck. God I have I'm going to >> suck suck. God I have I'm going to >> suck suck. God I have I'm going to report back to you guys on uh some of my report back to you guys on uh some of my report back to you guys on uh some of my friends using creatine for sleep friends using creatine for sleep friends using creatine for sleep deprivation. deprivation. deprivation. >> Oh >> Oh >> Oh >> it's they're just blown away. They're >> it's they're just blown away. They're >> it's they're just blown away. They're just absolutely blown away by one is a just absolutely blown away by one is a just absolutely blown away by one is a nurse, one is an ER doctor and in their nurse, one is an ER doctor and in their nurse, one is an ER doctor and in their words this is their words life-changing. words this is their words life-changing. words this is their words life-changing. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, >> that the creatine was life-changing for >> that the creatine was life-changing for >> that the creatine was life-changing for their jobs. These are not like fitness their jobs. These are not like fitness their jobs. These are not like fitness enthusiasts. They both trying to work enthusiasts. They both trying to work enthusiasts. They both trying to work out, out, out, >> but it was like, you know, one of my a >> but it was like, you know, one of my a >> but it was like, you know, one of my a nurse, she's like, "Man, I'm taking 15 nurse, she's like, "Man, I'm taking 15 nurse, she's like, "Man, I'm taking 15 grams a day." And she's like, "I can't grams a day." And she's like, "I can't grams a day." And she's like, "I can't believe how different believe how different believe how different >> gets rid of the groggyness and yeah, all >> gets rid of the groggyness and yeah, all >> gets rid of the groggyness and yeah, all that. that. that. >> Just just the way she feels mentally, >> Just just the way she feels mentally, >> Just just the way she feels mentally, everything." everything." everything." >> So, if I'm somebody who tracks with my >> So, if I'm somebody who tracks with my >> So, if I'm somebody who tracks with my Aura ring and uh what I consider bad Aura ring and uh what I consider bad Aura ring and uh what I consider bad night asleep would be like 60 score in night asleep would be like 60 score in night asleep would be like 60 score in the 60s. the 60s. the 60s. >> Yep. Um >> Yep. Um >> Yep. Um I is it it would have been more I is it it would have been more I is it it would have been more beneficial if I would have had the 15 beneficial if I would have had the 15 beneficial if I would have had the 15 grams the day before or the day of. grams the day before or the day of. grams the day before or the day of. >> You could use it the night before uh or >> You could use it the night before uh or >> You could use it the night before uh or the day before if you know you're going the day before if you know you're going the day before if you know you're going to get bad sleep. It could also be to get bad sleep. It could also be to get bad sleep. It could also be after. after. after. >> So in the studies they sleep deprive >> So in the studies they sleep deprive >> So in the studies they sleep deprive people and they give half of them 20 people and they give half of them 20 people and they give half of them 20 grams of creatine the other half no grams of creatine the other half no grams of creatine the other half no >> the Now I'm careful when I say this >> the Now I'm careful when I say this >> the Now I'm careful when I say this because it because people can because it because people can because it because people can misconstrue this as as it means it misconstrue this as as it means it misconstrue this as as it means it completely erases any negative effects completely erases any negative effects completely erases any negative effects of the bad sleep. But the way that they of the bad sleep. But the way that they of the bad sleep. But the way that they test their performance, you could tell test their performance, you could tell test their performance, you could tell when you test someone's performance in when you test someone's performance in when you test someone's performance in certain ways, you could tell when certain ways, you could tell when certain ways, you could tell when they're sleep deprived. There's a they're sleep deprived. There's a they're sleep deprived. There's a classic test erases the deficit. So 20 classic test erases the deficit. So 20 classic test erases the deficit. So 20 grams of creatine, they are measuring grams of creatine, they are measuring grams of creatine, they are measuring them and they're like, I can't even tell them and they're like, I can't even tell them and they're like, I can't even tell you're sleep deprived you're sleep deprived you're sleep deprived >> from the creatine. So if you measure at >> from the creatine. So if you measure at >> from the creatine. So if you measure at 60 60 60 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> then Yeah. Get your what do you do? The >> then Yeah. Get your what do you do? The >> then Yeah. Get your what do you do? The Legion capsules. Yeah. Legion capsules. Yeah. Legion capsules. Yeah. >> Then I would go um It depends if you can >> Then I would go um It depends if you can >> Then I would go um It depends if you can handle 15 or 20 grams all at once. If if handle 15 or 20 grams all at once. If if handle 15 or 20 grams all at once. If if it bothers your gut, I'd go five. I'd it bothers your gut, I'd go five. I'd it bothers your gut, I'd go five. I'd wait every hour. or I go five five five wait every hour. or I go five five five wait every hour. or I go five five five and I have to do that. and I have to do that. and I have to do that. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And then you're good >> And then you're good >> And then you're good >> cuz yeah obviously having it but there >> cuz yeah obviously having it but there >> cuz yeah obviously having it but there like what happens is [clears throat] I I like what happens is [clears throat] I I like what happens is [clears throat] I I I don't plan to have a bad night's I don't plan to have a bad night's I don't plan to have a bad night's sleep, right? And so I'm not always sleep, right? And so I'm not always sleep, right? And so I'm not always taking 15 grams. I'm I'm normally taking taking 15 grams. I'm I'm normally taking taking 15 grams. I'm I'm normally taking more like five. Every once I'll do 10 more like five. Every once I'll do 10 more like five. Every once I'll do 10 just to do like cuz they're gummies and just to do like cuz they're gummies and just to do like cuz they're gummies and they're easy and they're in my room or they're easy and they're in my room or they're easy and they're in my room or whatever that. But whatever that. But whatever that. But >> what I haven't done consistently is >> what I haven't done consistently is >> what I haven't done consistently is >> have capsules. They have pure creatine >> have capsules. They have pure creatine >> have capsules. They have pure creatine too. too. too. >> Yeah, I do the gummies. You said caps. I >> Yeah, I do the gummies. You said caps. I >> Yeah, I do the gummies. You said caps. I meant gummies. Come on. meant gummies. Come on. meant gummies. Come on. >> Sure. That's why you like candy. >> Sure. That's why you like candy. >> Sure. That's why you like candy. [laughter] I forgot it. Yeah. Yeah. But [laughter] I forgot it. Yeah. Yeah. But [laughter] I forgot it. Yeah. Yeah. But it erases it erases the deficit which is it erases it erases the deficit which is it erases it erases the deficit which is crazy. crazy. crazy. >> That is wild. >> That is wild. >> That is wild. >> Which is crazy. >> Which is crazy. >> Which is crazy. >> Well, especially to people that have >> Well, especially to people that have >> Well, especially to people that have jobs like you're talking about like you jobs like you're talking about like you jobs like you're talking about like you if you're like an ER person and you like if you're like an ER person and you like if you're like an ER person and you like you know you're going to have to be you know you're going to have to be you know you're going to have to be sleep deprived. sleep deprived. sleep deprived. >> I want to test that for jet lag too like >> I want to test that for jet lag too like >> I want to test that for jet lag too like going to a different place a different going to a different place a different going to a different place a different time zone. That'd be interesting to time zone. That'd be interesting to time zone. That'd be interesting to >> to experiment with that. >> to experiment with that. >> to experiment with that. >> I mean like I said we were at the pool >> I mean like I said we were at the pool >> I mean like I said we were at the pool which by the way why I'm so dark. We go which by the way why I'm so dark. We go which by the way why I'm so dark. We go into the pool a lot regularly. And into the pool a lot regularly. And into the pool a lot regularly. And [snorts] um you know they they showed up [snorts] um you know they they showed up [snorts] um you know they they showed up and like I said she's a nurse and she's and like I said she's a nurse and she's and like I said she's a nurse and she's like s the creatine she's like it's it's like s the creatine she's like it's it's like s the creatine she's like it's it's lifechanging. She's like I can't believe lifechanging. She's like I can't believe lifechanging. She's like I can't believe the difference. I'm like are you right? the difference. I'm like are you right? the difference. I'm like are you right? You said I'm taking it regularly. I'm You said I'm taking it regularly. I'm You said I'm taking it regularly. I'm like it's crazy right? She's like trip like it's crazy right? She's like trip like it's crazy right? She's like trip tripping out as well. Tripping out. tripping out as well. Tripping out. tripping out as well. Tripping out. >> Yeah. You talk about you and I getting >> Yeah. You talk about you and I getting >> Yeah. You talk about you and I getting so dark. I wonder if like on camera so dark. I wonder if like on camera so dark. I wonder if like on camera Justin looks clear now. [laughter] Justin looks clear now. [laughter] Justin looks clear now. [laughter] >> I'm all wearing white shirts to >> I'm all wearing white shirts to >> I'm all wearing white shirts to emphasize like hey look at Casper over emphasize like hey look at Casper over emphasize like hey look at Casper over there. [laughter] there. [laughter] there. [laughter] >> Dude I've been in the sun a lot this >> Dude I've been in the sun a lot this >> Dude I've been in the sun a lot this summer too. Like it's just as good as it summer too. Like it's just as good as it summer too. Like it's just as good as it gets. Come on man. And I've been working gets. Come on man. And I've been working gets. Come on man. And I've been working on my tent so bad. These guys over here on my tent so bad. These guys over here on my tent so bad. These guys over here doesn't look like a European guy. doesn't look like a European guy. doesn't look like a European guy. >> No, this is this is a this is literally >> No, this is this is a this is literally >> No, this is this is a this is literally four three or four days in the pool. four three or four days in the pool. four three or four days in the pool. >> And I just >> And I just >> And I just >> You guys are really eating it up over >> You guys are really eating it up over >> You guys are really eating it up over there. Congratulations. there. Congratulations. there. Congratulations. >> Yeah. So, we got a my wife got a >> Yeah. So, we got a my wife got a >> Yeah. So, we got a my wife got a membership at this gym with an outdoor membership at this gym with an outdoor membership at this gym with an outdoor pool and so she's getting taking the pool and so she's getting taking the pool and so she's getting taking the kids there so they can learn how to kids there so they can learn how to kids there so they can learn how to swim. Um and so I've been going with swim. Um and so I've been going with swim. Um and so I've been going with them, you know, when I have time. The them, you know, when I have time. The them, you know, when I have time. The only downside is they serve drinks. only downside is they serve drinks. only downside is they serve drinks. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Dude, I have never drank so much alcohol >> Dude, I have never drank so much alcohol >> Dude, I have never drank so much alcohol so consistently in my life. by the pool. so consistently in my life. by the pool. so consistently in my life. by the pool. I know it's kind of like part for the I know it's kind of like part for the I know it's kind of like part for the course. course. course. >> Yeah, dude. Like what am I going to do? >> Yeah, dude. Like what am I going to do? >> Yeah, dude. Like what am I going to do? Lay by the pool. [laughter] Lay by the pool. [laughter] Lay by the pool. [laughter] >> I feel like as a dude, you kind of have >> I feel like as a dude, you kind of have >> I feel like as a dude, you kind of have to. to. to. >> Like laying out as a chick >> Like laying out as a chick >> Like laying out as a chick >> is like totally normal. It's normal for >> is like totally normal. It's normal for >> is like totally normal. It's normal for girls call each other up and go like my girls call each other up and go like my girls call each other up and go like my my wife does a football, my wife does a football, my wife does a football, >> but your buddy your buddy has never >> but your buddy your buddy has never >> but your buddy your buddy has never called you and been like, "Hey, you want called you and been like, "Hey, you want called you and been like, "Hey, you want to go lay out today?" Like do. So as a to go lay out today?" Like do. So as a to go lay out today?" Like do. So as a dude back dude back dude back >> So as a dude, you're laying out at the >> So as a dude, you're laying out at the >> So as a dude, you're laying out at the pool with your wife. You feel like I pool with your wife. You feel like I pool with your wife. You feel like I need to do something. Yeah. I need to need to do something. Yeah. I need to need to do something. Yeah. I need to hold something. I need to hold a drink hold something. I need to hold a drink hold something. I need to hold a drink or something. I feel like I'm doing or something. I feel like I'm doing or something. I feel like I'm doing something. something. something. >> Yeah, it's too consistent, man. I can't >> Yeah, it's too consistent, man. I can't >> Yeah, it's too consistent, man. I can't be having a drink every day. What the be having a drink every day. What the be having a drink every day. What the hell's going on? hell's going on? hell's going on? >> It's crazy that that this is becoming a >> It's crazy that that this is becoming a >> It's crazy that that this is becoming a thing for like uh gyms. Like it's uh my thing for like uh gyms. Like it's uh my thing for like uh gyms. Like it's uh my buddy in Orange County was is telling me buddy in Orange County was is telling me buddy in Orange County was is telling me about like Lifetime Fitness and stuff. about like Lifetime Fitness and stuff. about like Lifetime Fitness and stuff. He's like it's like a whole vibe like to He's like it's like a whole vibe like to He's like it's like a whole vibe like to go hang poolside at the gym. go hang poolside at the gym. go hang poolside at the gym. >> People just hang out there extra long >> People just hang out there extra long >> People just hang out there extra long after workout. after workout. after workout. >> Dude, I got an article for you guys on >> Dude, I got an article for you guys on >> Dude, I got an article for you guys on that. that. that. >> It's like a thing. >> It's like a thing. >> It's like a thing. >> No, no. So >> No, no. So >> No, no. So >> social hour, dude. >> social hour, dude. >> social hour, dude. >> These are real stats uh on gyms. Let me >> These are real stats uh on gyms. Let me >> These are real stats uh on gyms. Let me pull it up right here. um which is pull it up right here. um which is pull it up right here. um which is really interesting. All right, check really interesting. All right, check really interesting. All right, check this out. So, this is it's a K market this out. So, this is it's a K market this out. So, this is it's a K market with gyms right now. Okay, so it's with gyms right now. Okay, so it's with gyms right now. Okay, so it's splitting. There's a split that's going splitting. There's a split that's going splitting. There's a split that's going on. First of all, uh the demand for gym on. First of all, uh the demand for gym on. First of all, uh the demand for gym memberships is the highest it's ever memberships is the highest it's ever memberships is the highest it's ever been. been. been. >> Okay, so demand for So, this is like we >> Okay, so demand for So, this is like we >> Okay, so demand for So, this is like we are entering into are entering into are entering into >> interesting >> interesting >> interesting >> a heyday for gyms. This is like the most >> a heyday for gyms. This is like the most >> a heyday for gyms. This is like the most the best time for gyms we've ever seen. the best time for gyms we've ever seen. the best time for gyms we've ever seen. Yeah. Okay. So, 26% Yeah. Okay. So, 26% Yeah. Okay. So, 26% of everyone six and up had a gym of everyone six and up had a gym of everyone six and up had a gym membership in 2025. 7 billion facility membership in 2025. 7 billion facility membership in 2025. 7 billion facility visits. Here's what's cool. The share of visits. Here's what's cool. The share of visits. Here's what's cool. The share of members who never once showed up fell to members who never once showed up fell to members who never once showed up fell to an all-time low of 4.6%. an all-time low of 4.6%. an all-time low of 4.6%. >> So, that's the lowest that we've since >> So, that's the lowest that we've since >> So, that's the lowest that we've since we've recorded, which is crazy. we've recorded, which is crazy. we've recorded, which is crazy. >> It's a K-shaped economy, meaning you >> It's a K-shaped economy, meaning you >> It's a K-shaped economy, meaning you have two ends. You have the value at the have two ends. You have the value at the have two ends. You have the value at the bottom because they could scale. It's bottom because they could scale. It's bottom because they could scale. It's like Planet Fitness, and then you have like Planet Fitness, and then you have like Planet Fitness, and then you have the premiere at the top where they the premiere at the top where they the premiere at the top where they charge a lot. Both of them are crushing. charge a lot. Both of them are crushing. charge a lot. Both of them are crushing. >> The middle is where's >> The middle is where's >> The middle is where's >> the middle is where where you're having >> the middle is where where you're having >> the middle is where where you're having a tough time because a tough time because a tough time because >> they can't scale like the value and they >> they can't scale like the value and they >> they can't scale like the value and they don't offer all the crazy stuff like don't offer all the crazy stuff like don't offer all the crazy stuff like that. So what what they're doing and that. So what what they're doing and that. So what what they're doing and this is Masov and his brilliance cuz you this is Masov and his brilliance cuz you this is Masov and his brilliance cuz you guys know he bought well we had him on guys know he bought well we had him on guys know he bought well we had him on the show. Yeah. the show. Yeah. the show. Yeah. >> He's he's back into >> He's he's back into >> He's he's back into >> I'm so curious how he's going to survive >> I'm so curious how he's going to survive >> I'm so curious how he's going to survive this middle ground. this middle ground. this middle ground. >> He's going to offer more services but >> He's going to offer more services but >> He's going to offer more services but it's going to be kind of like Alakart is it's going to be kind of like Alakart is it's going to be kind of like Alakart is probably what's going to happen. So, probably what's going to happen. So, probably what's going to happen. So, you're still going to have your value, you're still going to have your value, you're still going to have your value, but if you want extra stuff, recovery, but if you want extra stuff, recovery, but if you want extra stuff, recovery, this, that, and the other, there are this, that, and the other, there are this, that, and the other, there are tiers that you can enroll in. And so, tiers that you can enroll in. And so, tiers that you can enroll in. And so, that's going to kind of reshape. And the that's going to kind of reshape. And the that's going to kind of reshape. And the guy's brilliant. Uh, he has he never guy's brilliant. Uh, he has he never guy's brilliant. Uh, he has he never misses. Uh, I think that'll kind of misses. Uh, I think that'll kind of misses. Uh, I think that'll kind of restructure what the middle kind of restructure what the middle kind of restructure what the middle kind of looks like. looks like. looks like. >> I mean, you have to look it up. I saw I >> I mean, you have to look it up. I saw I >> I mean, you have to look it up. I saw I saw an article on this on Lifetime. They saw an article on this on Lifetime. They saw an article on this on Lifetime. They have like a 3,000 I want to say it's have like a 3,000 I want to say it's have like a 3,000 I want to say it's like $3,000 a month membership. like $3,000 a month membership. like $3,000 a month membership. >> Do they? >> Do they? >> Do they? >> Yeah. Something great. Yeah. And I but >> Yeah. Something great. Yeah. And I but >> Yeah. Something great. Yeah. And I but it's like a you know it's similar to it's like a you know it's similar to it's like a you know it's similar to like what um what's his name? What's the like what um what's his name? What's the like what um what's his name? What's the biohack guy and um and the other and the biohack guy and um and the other and the biohack guy and um and the other and the other doctor? other doctor? other doctor? >> Yeah. They have like they have like the >> Yeah. They have like they have like the >> Yeah. They have like they have like the hundred No, not him. hundred No, not him. hundred No, not him. >> Brian Johnson. >> Brian Johnson. >> Brian Johnson. >> Brian Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. You know his >> Brian Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. You know his >> Brian Johnson. Yeah. Yeah. You know his is like a million dollars a year. Like is like a million dollars a year. Like is like a million dollars a year. Like there's there's And then then who was there's there's And then then who was there's there's And then then who was it? Peter Aia did one and I think his is it? Peter Aia did one and I think his is it? Peter Aia did one and I think his is like a h 100red,000 a year. So it's like like a h 100red,000 a year. So it's like like a h 100red,000 a year. So it's like that. It's like blood work everything. that. It's like blood work everything. that. It's like blood work everything. What what's it? What is it? What what's it? What is it? What what's it? What is it? >> Oh, it's per year. 3,600 per year. I >> Oh, it's per year. 3,600 per year. I >> Oh, it's per year. 3,600 per year. I thought it was per month. Okay. That's thought it was per month. Okay. That's thought it was per month. Okay. That's not as crazy as I thought it was. not as crazy as I thought it was. not as crazy as I thought it was. >> They're also becoming >> They're also becoming >> They're also becoming >> still I mean$ 3.29 a month, you know. >> still I mean$ 3.29 a month, you know. >> still I mean$ 3.29 a month, you know. >> No, no, no. We're entering into a really >> No, no, no. We're entering into a really >> No, no, no. We're entering into a really interesting time for fitness uh because interesting time for fitness uh because interesting time for fitness uh because gyms are becoming gyms are becoming gyms are becoming >> Oh, that's just that's just Oh, that's >> Oh, that's just that's just Oh, that's >> Oh, that's just that's just Oh, that's just their uh membership to all clubs. just their uh membership to all clubs. just their uh membership to all clubs. They have another tier that is like uh They have another tier that is like uh They have another tier that is like uh like their longevity something like I like their longevity something like I like their longevity something like I don't don't don't >> it kind of like all the cart stuff. >> it kind of like all the cart stuff. >> it kind of like all the cart stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah, something like that. I don't >> Yeah. Yeah, something like that. I don't >> Yeah. Yeah, something like that. I don't know what it was called. I I'll do more know what it was called. I I'll do more know what it was called. I I'll do more digging. Yeah. digging. Yeah. digging. Yeah. >> Um but it to your point that this is >> Um but it to your point that this is >> Um but it to your point that this is where it's going. It's going to this where it's going. It's going to this where it's going. It's going to this kind of K shape where it's like you're kind of K shape where it's like you're kind of K shape where it's like you're either going to go to the $9 a month either going to go to the $9 a month either going to go to the $9 a month type of deal or get this like, you know, type of deal or get this like, you know, type of deal or get this like, you know, optimization. Yeah, there you go. optimization. Yeah, there you go. optimization. Yeah, there you go. There's an annual one. 40,000. There's an annual one. 40,000. There's an annual one. 40,000. >> That's Equinox. >> That's Equinox. >> That's Equinox. >> Oh, Equinox is doing that. >> Oh, Equinox is doing that. >> Oh, Equinox is doing that. >> Yeah, some of these are doing some of >> Yeah, some of these are doing some of >> Yeah, some of these are doing some of these crazy. these crazy. these crazy. >> I suppose Equinox in New York are >> I suppose Equinox in New York are >> I suppose Equinox in New York are insane. I don't know what they charge. insane. I don't know what they charge. insane. I don't know what they charge. >> Yeah, they're blood panels and going >> Yeah, they're blood panels and going >> Yeah, they're blood panels and going that that whole route. I mean, that's that that whole route. I mean, that's that that whole route. I mean, that's what Kyle wants. what Kyle wants. what Kyle wants. >> I think this is such a cool time for >> I think this is such a cool time for >> I think this is such a cool time for people to work in fitness. This is a people to work in fitness. This is a people to work in fitness. This is a really cool time. really cool time. really cool time. Yeah, we're it's like a fitness boom is Yeah, we're it's like a fitness boom is Yeah, we're it's like a fitness boom is what's happening. I actually think some what's happening. I actually think some what's happening. I actually think some of it's being of it's being of it's being >> there's a big need. Yeah. >> there's a big need. Yeah. >> there's a big need. Yeah. >> And I think GLP1 uses or GLP use is >> And I think GLP1 uses or GLP use is >> And I think GLP1 uses or GLP use is going to drive even more of it as more going to drive even more of it as more going to drive even more of it as more people are trying to strength train. people are trying to strength train. people are trying to strength train. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> Uhhuh. >> Uh and it's become the social place. >> Uh and it's become the social place. >> Uh and it's become the social place. Less people are going to bars, less Less people are going to bars, less Less people are going to bars, less people are socializing the old ways and people are socializing the old ways and people are socializing the old ways and more people are starting to socialize. more people are starting to socialize. more people are starting to socialize. >> All the young generations below us. >> All the young generations below us. >> All the young generations below us. Yeah. I guess this dropped off like Yeah. I guess this dropped off like Yeah. I guess this dropped off like billions of dollars the alcohol billions of dollars the alcohol billions of dollars the alcohol businesses lost. So it's cool. Yeah. businesses lost. So it's cool. Yeah. businesses lost. So it's cool. Yeah. Interesting. Very very cool. Good time Interesting. Very very cool. Good time Interesting. Very very cool. Good time to be in it. to be in it. to be in it. 3 days left for the 40% off sale on the 3 days left for the 40% off sale on the 3 days left for the 40% off sale on the new MAPS program. Maps Upper Lower. It's new MAPS program. Maps Upper Lower. It's new MAPS program. Maps Upper Lower. It's a 4-day muscle building split. There's a a 4-day muscle building split. There's a a 4-day muscle building split. There's a men and women's version. It's 40% off men and women's version. It's 40% off men and women's version. It's 40% off right now. Go to mapsupper.com. Use the right now. Go to mapsupper.com. Use the right now. Go to mapsupper.com. Use the code launch for the discount. Back to code launch for the discount. Back to code launch for the discount. Back to the show. the show. the show. >> Our first caller is Nick from >> Our first caller is Nick from >> Our first caller is Nick from California. California. California. >> What's up, Nick? >> What's up, Nick? >> What's up, Nick? >> What's going on, Nick? >> What's going on, Nick? >> What's going on, Nick? >> What's up, buddy? >> What's up, buddy? >> What's up, buddy? >> Hello. How you guys doing? >> Hello. How you guys doing? >> Hello. How you guys doing? >> Good, man. >> Good, man. >> Good, man. >> Good, dude. How can we help you? >> Good, dude. How can we help you? >> Good, dude. How can we help you? This is uh this is really surreal. I This is uh this is really surreal. I This is uh this is really surreal. I didn't think I'd ever be here. Um my didn't think I'd ever be here. Um my didn't think I'd ever be here. Um my question pertains around to question pertains around to question pertains around to what I should do every day with my what I should do every day with my what I should do every day with my workouts and my nutrition because my workouts and my nutrition because my workouts and my nutrition because my schedule is so inconsistent. Um I'm a schedule is so inconsistent. Um I'm a schedule is so inconsistent. Um I'm a contractor and most of the time I contractor and most of the time I contractor and most of the time I commute to the Bay Area for work. So I commute to the Bay Area for work. So I commute to the Bay Area for work. So I usually wake up around 3:30 in the usually wake up around 3:30 in the usually wake up around 3:30 in the morning. Sometimes I'm home at 10:00. morning. Sometimes I'm home at 10:00. morning. Sometimes I'm home at 10:00. Sometimes I'm home at noon. Sometimes I Sometimes I'm home at noon. Sometimes I Sometimes I'm home at noon. Sometimes I don't get home until 6:00 at night. Um, don't get home until 6:00 at night. Um, don't get home until 6:00 at night. Um, I'm very involved with my family and a I'm very involved with my family and a I'm very involved with my family and a lot of local stuff in my city. So, most lot of local stuff in my city. So, most lot of local stuff in my city. So, most nights we're out at a fundraiser, a nights we're out at a fundraiser, a nights we're out at a fundraiser, a dinner, something like that. Um, so I dinner, something like that. Um, so I dinner, something like that. Um, so I don't really know what I should do, how don't really know what I should do, how don't really know what I should do, how I should eat every day, and how I should I should eat every day, and how I should I should eat every day, and how I should work out every day. I I try to do like a work out every day. I I try to do like a work out every day. I I try to do like a max 15 workout every day, but on the max 15 workout every day, but on the max 15 workout every day, but on the days I get home early, it just feels days I get home early, it just feels days I get home early, it just feels like it's not enough. So, I I don't like it's not enough. So, I I don't like it's not enough. So, I I don't really know what to do. really know what to do. really know what to do. >> Give me Give me more detail. On average, >> Give me Give me more detail. On average, >> Give me Give me more detail. On average, how many days a week would you say are how many days a week would you say are how many days a week would you say are the long days? And how many days a week the long days? And how many days a week the long days? And how many days a week would you say are the ones where you get would you say are the ones where you get would you say are the ones where you get home at a decent time? home at a decent time? home at a decent time? >> There's really >> There's really >> There's really I I don't know. For an average, I I I I I don't know. For an average, I I I I I don't know. For an average, I I I can't I don't know. We have busy times can't I don't know. We have busy times can't I don't know. We have busy times of the year and not so busy times of the of the year and not so busy times of the of the year and not so busy times of the year. Um year. Um year. Um >> some days it's two weeks straight of >> some days it's two weeks straight of >> some days it's two weeks straight of easy days. Sometimes it's a month easy days. Sometimes it's a month easy days. Sometimes it's a month straight of long days. It's just really straight of long days. It's just really straight of long days. It's just really really inconsistent. really inconsistent. really inconsistent. >> Okay. Well, that actually some >> Okay. Well, that actually some >> Okay. Well, that actually some consistency that we change during those consistency that we change during those consistency that we change during those times. times. times. >> Yeah. And here's the thing, dude. If >> Yeah. And here's the thing, dude. If >> Yeah. And here's the thing, dude. If it's like that, if you go through it's like that, if you go through it's like that, if you go through seasons like that, then the thing seasons like that, then the thing seasons like that, then the thing that'll change is the intensity of the that'll change is the intensity of the that'll change is the intensity of the workouts. So, I think MAPS 15 is perfect workouts. So, I think MAPS 15 is perfect workouts. So, I think MAPS 15 is perfect for you, bro. And on the days you get for you, bro. And on the days you get for you, bro. And on the days you get home, you just go harder. home, you just go harder. home, you just go harder. >> And on the days you get home, weight, >> And on the days you get home, weight, >> And on the days you get home, weight, [clears throat] you do it easy or you [clears throat] you do it easy or you [clears throat] you do it easy or you skip. And you just keep doing that. skip. And you just keep doing that. skip. And you just keep doing that. >> You just keep doing that. >> You just keep doing that. >> You just keep doing that. >> Nutrition nutrition wise is really >> Nutrition nutrition wise is really >> Nutrition nutrition wise is really important. And that's where the that's important. And that's where the that's important. And that's where the that's where you're going. where you're going. where you're going. >> The thing I heard from you too that the >> The thing I heard from you too that the >> The thing I heard from you too that the mistake that a lot of guys will make is mistake that a lot of guys will make is mistake that a lot of guys will make is that let's say you're on the 15 routine that let's say you're on the 15 routine that let's say you're on the 15 routine like we're telling you and it just so like we're telling you and it just so like we're telling you and it just so happens to be a day you get home and you happens to be a day you get home and you happens to be a day you get home and you have lots of time. You feel like it's have lots of time. You feel like it's have lots of time. You feel like it's not enough. It's enough. You don't need not enough. It's enough. You don't need not enough. It's enough. You don't need to go do more. Just because this is a to go do more. Just because this is a to go do more. Just because this is a day that you got some good rest and day that you got some good rest and day that you got some good rest and you're home early, you still follow the you're home early, you still follow the you're home early, you still follow the routine. you still do it because it it's routine. you still do it because it it's routine. you still do it because it it's doing a bunch more uh just because you doing a bunch more uh just because you doing a bunch more uh just because you had that one good day of more time isn't had that one good day of more time isn't had that one good day of more time isn't going to get you more results. Actually, going to get you more results. Actually, going to get you more results. Actually, eb and flowing and listening to your eb and flowing and listening to your eb and flowing and listening to your body and it's it you being consistent body and it's it you being consistent body and it's it you being consistent with just hitting the gym with with just hitting the gym with with just hitting the gym with appropriate intensity is what's going to appropriate intensity is what's going to appropriate intensity is what's going to is going to get you. is going to get you. is going to get you. >> Yeah. When you look at stress on the >> Yeah. When you look at stress on the >> Yeah. When you look at stress on the body, obviously the day makes sense, but body, obviously the day makes sense, but body, obviously the day makes sense, but it's also the week and the month and it's also the week and the month and it's also the week and the month and then what's cumulative. And so what then what's cumulative. And so what then what's cumulative. And so what you're kind of telling me is that you've you're kind of telling me is that you've you're kind of telling me is that you've got these seasons and there's seasons got these seasons and there's seasons got these seasons and there's seasons where you're just working your butt off, where you're just working your butt off, where you're just working your butt off, seasons where it's not so hard. But the seasons where it's not so hard. But the seasons where it's not so hard. But the point is is that there's seasons that point is is that there's seasons that point is is that there's seasons that they're in and out. So it's not like, they're in and out. So it's not like, they're in and out. So it's not like, you know, for a full year it's easy and you know, for a full year it's easy and you know, for a full year it's easy and then next year it's it's it's kind of then next year it's it's it's kind of then next year it's it's it's kind of like that all year round like that all year round like that all year round >> and there's times when it's harder. So >> and there's times when it's harder. So >> and there's times when it's harder. So the thing that changes, Nick, is the the thing that changes, Nick, is the the thing that changes, Nick, is the intensity. intensity. intensity. >> So you still do math 15, but you get >> So you still do math 15, but you get >> So you still do math 15, but you get home early and you feel good, you get home early and you feel good, you get home early and you feel good, you get after it. Mhm. after it. Mhm. after it. Mhm. >> You get home late and you're kind of out >> You get home late and you're kind of out >> You get home late and you're kind of out of it, you can go easy or skip of it, you can go easy or skip of it, you can go easy or skip >> and then you just stay on that. Now, >> and then you just stay on that. Now, >> and then you just stay on that. Now, nutrition is where you want to be nutrition is where you want to be nutrition is where you want to be consistent, consistent, consistent. consistent, consistent, consistent. consistent, consistent, consistent. That'll make the big difference. And so, That'll make the big difference. And so, That'll make the big difference. And so, meal prepping really helps a lot when meal prepping really helps a lot when meal prepping really helps a lot when you're on the road. you're on the road. you're on the road. >> Uh hitting your protein targets and >> Uh hitting your protein targets and >> Uh hitting your protein targets and sticking to whole natural foods. If you sticking to whole natural foods. If you sticking to whole natural foods. If you do those two things over time, you'll do those two things over time, you'll do those two things over time, you'll progress over time. Let progress over time. Let progress over time. Let >> Let me let me help uh you define what >> Let me let me help uh you define what >> Let me let me help uh you define what easy and get after it means, too. Uh easy and get after it means, too. Uh easy and get after it means, too. Uh what do you what's a what's a normal what do you what's a what's a normal what do you what's a what's a normal squat or bench press number for me? What squat or bench press number for me? What squat or bench press number for me? What do you what do you do what do you squat do you what do you do what do you squat do you what do you do what do you squat when you squat? when you squat? when you squat? >> Uh right now uh I want to say my bench >> Uh right now uh I want to say my bench >> Uh right now uh I want to say my bench press would probably be 215 for a one press would probably be 215 for a one press would probably be 215 for a one rep max. My squat would probably be rep max. My squat would probably be rep max. My squat would probably be 325 for max maybe. I I don't know for 325 for max maybe. I I don't know for 325 for max maybe. I I don't know for sure. It's It's been a uh really long sure. It's It's been a uh really long sure. It's It's been a uh really long couple months, so I I don't know exactly couple months, so I I don't know exactly couple months, so I I don't know exactly what it what it what it >> is. That's okay. That gives me I just >> is. That's okay. That gives me I just >> is. That's okay. That gives me I just needed some sort of rep number so it was needed some sort of rep number so it was needed some sort of rep number so it was relative to where where it would be relative to where where it would be relative to where where it would be like. [clears throat] So, uh easy day. like. [clears throat] So, uh easy day. like. [clears throat] So, uh easy day. I'm coming in. I'm bench pressing. I'm I'm coming in. I'm bench pressing. I'm I'm coming in. I'm bench pressing. I'm working out with 135. I'm not I'm not working out with 135. I'm not I'm not working out with 135. I'm not I'm not going to put any more weight on the bar going to put any more weight on the bar going to put any more weight on the bar like that. I'm going to I'm going to like that. I'm going to I'm going to like that. I'm going to I'm going to move it through the MAPS 15 the way it's move it through the MAPS 15 the way it's move it through the MAPS 15 the way it's calling for it. Uh hard day, I'm going calling for it. Uh hard day, I'm going calling for it. Uh hard day, I'm going to push up towards what I'm capable of. to push up towards what I'm capable of. to push up towards what I'm capable of. >> You know, that 165 175 workout. I'm >> You know, that 165 175 workout. I'm >> You know, that 165 175 workout. I'm going to work out with a a higher the going to work out with a a higher the going to work out with a a higher the number that's closer to like that's a number that's closer to like that's a number that's closer to like that's a lot of weight for me. That's what a hard lot of weight for me. That's what a hard lot of weight for me. That's what a hard day doesn't mean more stuff like that's day doesn't mean more stuff like that's day doesn't mean more stuff like that's doesn't mean like oh I'm going to do a doesn't mean like oh I'm going to do a doesn't mean like oh I'm going to do a bunch more of or work out longer cuz bunch more of or work out longer cuz bunch more of or work out longer cuz sometimes people interpret get after it sometimes people interpret get after it sometimes people interpret get after it is like do a bunch more stuff. No, get is like do a bunch more stuff. No, get is like do a bunch more stuff. No, get after it means like oh this is the day after it means like oh this is the day after it means like oh this is the day I'm going to push the weight a little I'm going to push the weight a little I'm going to push the weight a little bit like I'm feeling good. I'm rested. I bit like I'm feeling good. I'm rested. I bit like I'm feeling good. I'm rested. I had a good day today. I'm fed. Like you had a good day today. I'm fed. Like you had a good day today. I'm fed. Like you know what? I'm going to put some weight know what? I'm going to put some weight know what? I'm going to put some weight on the bar and let's see what I can move on the bar and let's see what I can move on the bar and let's see what I can move today. That but you still follow the today. That but you still follow the today. That but you still follow the protocol of what's in the program. You protocol of what's in the program. You protocol of what's in the program. You don't add a bunch of [ __ ] to it. don't add a bunch of [ __ ] to it. don't add a bunch of [ __ ] to it. >> Yeah. And other days it's like, man, I'm >> Yeah. And other days it's like, man, I'm >> Yeah. And other days it's like, man, I'm tired. It's long. I'm going to go in and tired. It's long. I'm going to go in and tired. It's long. I'm going to go in and just go through the motions. just go through the motions. just go through the motions. >> Yeah. I'm just going to go I'm just >> Yeah. I'm just going to go I'm just >> Yeah. I'm just going to go I'm just going to go through the motions. going to go through the motions. going to go through the motions. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And that's the difference that right. >> And that's the difference that right. >> And that's the difference that right. And that's a big difference. And that's a big difference. And that's a big difference. >> People think that's nothing. That's a >> People think that's nothing. That's a >> People think that's nothing. That's a big difference. But then you stack that big difference. But then you stack that big difference. But then you stack that on top of each other consistently over on top of each other consistently over on top of each other consistently over time time time >> and you'll progress. You'll progress >> and you'll progress. You'll progress >> and you'll progress. You'll progress over time. over time. over time. >> Even just practicing those movements on >> Even just practicing those movements on >> Even just practicing those movements on those days you want to go a bit lighter. those days you want to go a bit lighter. those days you want to go a bit lighter. >> That's right. And we we we we we have a >> That's right. And we we we we we have a >> That's right. And we we we we we have a I think so many people um including I think so many people um including I think so many people um including ourselves forever felt like this. Like ourselves forever felt like this. Like ourselves forever felt like this. Like you feel like you have to get like so you feel like you have to get like so you feel like you have to get like so sore from the workout for it to be sore from the workout for it to be sore from the workout for it to be productive. It's not at all. You going productive. It's not at all. You going productive. It's not at all. You going in and moving weights like that even in and moving weights like that even in and moving weights like that even really light and easy and just cuz you really light and easy and just cuz you really light and easy and just cuz you maybe you're not sore the next day does maybe you're not sore the next day does maybe you're not sore the next day does not mean that was not a very effective not mean that was not a very effective not mean that was not a very effective workout. workout. workout. >> Send a great signal to your body. You >> Send a great signal to your body. You >> Send a great signal to your body. You learn it, you get better at it, you get learn it, you get better at it, you get learn it, you get better at it, you get stronger at it. So, just learn and and stronger at it. So, just learn and and stronger at it. So, just learn and and that's what that looks like is like if that's what that looks like is like if that's what that looks like is like if we were coaching you oneonone, it would we were coaching you oneonone, it would we were coaching you oneonone, it would be a lot of conversations around, hey be a lot of conversations around, hey be a lot of conversations around, hey man, how did you how do you feel this man, how did you how do you feel this man, how did you how do you feel this week? How'd you sleep? How were you good week? How'd you sleep? How were you good week? How'd you sleep? How were you good on your nutrition? You know, how you on your nutrition? You know, how you on your nutrition? You know, how you feeling today? Oh, cool. Like, you know feeling today? Oh, cool. Like, you know feeling today? Oh, cool. Like, you know what? Today, I want you to try and hit what? Today, I want you to try and hit what? Today, I want you to try and hit that 225 on the bench. Other days when that 225 on the bench. Other days when that 225 on the bench. Other days when you're like, "Ah, man. I didn't have the you're like, "Ah, man. I didn't have the you're like, "Ah, man. I didn't have the best of sleep and [ __ ] dude. Adam, I best of sleep and [ __ ] dude. Adam, I best of sleep and [ __ ] dude. Adam, I missed my protein intake yesterday." missed my protein intake yesterday." missed my protein intake yesterday." Hey, today when you go in there, I want Hey, today when you go in there, I want Hey, today when you go in there, I want you just real lightweight, just do the you just real lightweight, just do the you just real lightweight, just do the movements, but I don't want you pushing movements, but I don't want you pushing movements, but I don't want you pushing the weight at all. Just get get in, get the weight at all. Just get get in, get the weight at all. Just get get in, get out. Like that's what it sounds like out. Like that's what it sounds like out. Like that's what it sounds like >> and you're just consistent >> and you're just consistent >> and you're just consistent >> and you learn and then you start to >> and you learn and then you start to >> and you learn and then you start to learn how to read that in yourself like learn how to read that in yourself like learn how to read that in yourself like okay this is this is one of those times okay this is this is one of those times okay this is this is one of those times right now where I need to just kind of right now where I need to just kind of right now where I need to just kind of go in I'm going to lift uh but it's more go in I'm going to lift uh but it's more go in I'm going to lift uh but it's more almost recupative and then other times almost recupative and then other times almost recupative and then other times when you're feeling really good and when you're feeling really good and when you're feeling really good and you're hitting the macros and you're you're hitting the macros and you're you're hitting the macros and you're doing good on your diet like okay let's doing good on your diet like okay let's doing good on your diet like okay let's see what I can see what kind of weight I see what I can see what kind of weight I see what I can see what kind of weight I can move and when you do it like that can move and when you do it like that can move and when you do it like that the days when you get after it you're the days when you get after it you're the days when you get after it you're going to feel really strong and good and going to feel really strong and good and going to feel really strong and good and then and then and the days when you're then and then and the days when you're then and then and the days when you're not so good that's okay you get go not so good that's okay you get go not so good that's okay you get go through the movements And it you'll through the movements And it you'll through the movements And it you'll progress over time like that. progress over time like that. progress over time like that. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. That actually makes a lot of >> Okay. Okay. That actually makes a lot of >> Okay. Okay. That actually makes a lot of sense. Okay. sense. Okay. sense. Okay. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Um what should what should my nutrition >> Um what should what should my nutrition >> Um what should what should my nutrition look like? What what what should my look like? What what what should my look like? What what what should my calories look like? Should those be calories look like? Should those be calories look like? Should those be consistent, too? Cuz some days I'm consistent, too? Cuz some days I'm consistent, too? Cuz some days I'm getting 2,000 steps at work and I'm getting 2,000 steps at work and I'm getting 2,000 steps at work and I'm hardly doing anything. Sometimes I'm hardly doing anything. Sometimes I'm hardly doing anything. Sometimes I'm getting 12,000 steps and I'm sweating my getting 12,000 steps and I'm sweating my getting 12,000 steps and I'm sweating my ass off. And I seem to be a little bit ass off. And I seem to be a little bit ass off. And I seem to be a little bit hungrier the day after those hard hungrier the day after those hard hungrier the day after those hard >> Yeah. days. >> Yeah. days. >> Yeah. days. >> So Nick, you know, here's the thing. >> So Nick, you know, here's the thing. >> So Nick, you know, here's the thing. Often times in fitness culture, we're Often times in fitness culture, we're Often times in fitness culture, we're told to ignore our hunger signals told to ignore our hunger signals told to ignore our hunger signals because if we listen to them, we're just because if we listen to them, we're just because if we listen to them, we're just going to be overweight. Now, there are going to be overweight. Now, there are going to be overweight. Now, there are cases where I tell people to ignore cases where I tell people to ignore cases where I tell people to ignore their hunger signals. Um, these are their hunger signals. Um, these are their hunger signals. Um, these are extreme cases, people with eating extreme cases, people with eating extreme cases, people with eating disorders and stuff like that. But disorders and stuff like that. But disorders and stuff like that. But typical person, if you're eating whole typical person, if you're eating whole typical person, if you're eating whole natural foods and you eat protein first, natural foods and you eat protein first, natural foods and you eat protein first, eat when you're hungry. eat when you're hungry. eat when you're hungry. >> Y >> Y >> Y >> and your calories are going to fluctuate >> and your calories are going to fluctuate >> and your calories are going to fluctuate >> and you're not going to count your >> and you're not going to count your >> and you're not going to count your calories. So if you're like, man, I'm calories. So if you're like, man, I'm calories. So if you're like, man, I'm still hungry. still hungry. still hungry. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> If you're like, oh, I'm still hungry, >> If you're like, oh, I'm still hungry, >> If you're like, oh, I'm still hungry, eat more whole natural foods. eat more whole natural foods. eat more whole natural foods. >> If you're like, I'm not that hungry, eat >> If you're like, I'm not that hungry, eat >> If you're like, I'm not that hungry, eat a little less. a little less. a little less. >> Natural limiters. >> Natural limiters. >> Natural limiters. >> Start with protein. Natural limiters. >> Start with protein. Natural limiters. >> Start with protein. Natural limiters. The key here, Nick, for a guy on the The key here, Nick, for a guy on the The key here, Nick, for a guy on the road is going to be to prep your meals. road is going to be to prep your meals. road is going to be to prep your meals. Yeah. Because here's where you're going Yeah. Because here's where you're going Yeah. Because here's where you're going to mess up. you're gonna eat out, you're to mess up. you're gonna eat out, you're to mess up. you're gonna eat out, you're gonna eat at a fast food place or gonna eat at a fast food place or gonna eat at a fast food place or whatever, that food is engineered to whatever, that food is engineered to whatever, that food is engineered to make you overeat. And if you listen to make you overeat. And if you listen to make you overeat. And if you listen to your hung hunger signals when you eat your hung hunger signals when you eat your hung hunger signals when you eat that kind of food, then you're that kind of food, then you're that kind of food, then you're definitely going to get fat. definitely going to get fat. definitely going to get fat. >> And it gets really difficult to stay the >> And it gets really difficult to stay the >> And it gets really difficult to stay the course. Because this is the other thing course. Because this is the other thing course. Because this is the other thing that a guy like you does who works like that a guy like you does who works like that a guy like you does who works like this is you let these long 6 8 hour this is you let these long 6 8 hour this is you let these long 6 8 hour windows of no food go and then when you windows of no food go and then when you windows of no food go and then when you eat, you eat a ton and you eat a ton of eat, you eat a ton and you eat a ton of eat, you eat a ton and you eat a ton of things that are not ideal. things that are not ideal. things that are not ideal. >> You just structure it. And so if you >> You just structure it. And so if you >> You just structure it. And so if you like a guy like you, what I'd tell you like a guy like you, what I'd tell you like a guy like you, what I'd tell you to do is let's just Nick, we're going to to do is let's just Nick, we're going to to do is let's just Nick, we're going to focus on hitting your protein every day. focus on hitting your protein every day. focus on hitting your protein every day. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And if that means you got to have, you >> And if that means you got to have, you >> And if that means you got to have, you know, beef jerky ready for you or some know, beef jerky ready for you or some know, beef jerky ready for you or some Greek yogurt ready for you in a in a Greek yogurt ready for you in a in a Greek yogurt ready for you in a in a lunch pel, like keep things like that lunch pel, like keep things like that lunch pel, like keep things like that that are high protein, moderate amount that are high protein, moderate amount that are high protein, moderate amount of calories, close to whole food, if not of calories, close to whole food, if not of calories, close to whole food, if not whole food, ready for you. And focus on whole food, ready for you. And focus on whole food, ready for you. And focus on just hitting your protein intake and let just hitting your protein intake and let just hitting your protein intake and let the calories fall where the calories the calories fall where the calories the calories fall where the calories fall. If you're hungrier, eat, but eat fall. If you're hungrier, eat, but eat fall. If you're hungrier, eat, but eat more of those things. Don't go eat a more of those things. Don't go eat a more of those things. Don't go eat a bunch of [ __ ] eat more of those high bunch of [ __ ] eat more of those high bunch of [ __ ] eat more of those high protein meals and it it'll balance protein meals and it it'll balance protein meals and it it'll balance itself out, especially if you're itself out, especially if you're itself out, especially if you're consistent with your strength training. consistent with your strength training. consistent with your strength training. >> Okay. I I'm pretty uh I'm usually pretty >> Okay. I I'm pretty uh I'm usually pretty >> Okay. I I'm pretty uh I'm usually pretty good about hitting my protein goal. Um I good about hitting my protein goal. Um I good about hitting my protein goal. Um I eat just a lot of ground beef, ground eat just a lot of ground beef, ground eat just a lot of ground beef, ground turkey, turkey sandwiches for work. Um turkey, turkey sandwiches for work. Um turkey, turkey sandwiches for work. Um not tracking calories makes me a little not tracking calories makes me a little not tracking calories makes me a little nervous because I'm pretty diligent nervous because I'm pretty diligent nervous because I'm pretty diligent about it. Um about it. Um about it. Um >> where do you land right now? >> where do you land right now? >> where do you land right now? >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. >> Where do you land on your calories? >> Where do you land on your calories? >> Where do you land on your calories? I like it. Again, it's so inconsistent. I like it. Again, it's so inconsistent. I like it. Again, it's so inconsistent. Like, uh, Monday was a a long day, but Like, uh, Monday was a a long day, but Like, uh, Monday was a a long day, but it wasn't physically demanding. So, I it wasn't physically demanding. So, I it wasn't physically demanding. So, I just wasn't hungry, so I only ended up just wasn't hungry, so I only ended up just wasn't hungry, so I only ended up eating like 1,000 calories. Tuesday was eating like 1,000 calories. Tuesday was eating like 1,000 calories. Tuesday was a lot harder. I was a little bit hungry, a lot harder. I was a little bit hungry, a lot harder. I was a little bit hungry, so I ended up eating like 1,600, but so I ended up eating like 1,600, but so I ended up eating like 1,600, but there were a few days last week where I there were a few days last week where I there were a few days last week where I was hungry up until like 2500 calories. was hungry up until like 2500 calories. was hungry up until like 2500 calories. >> Yeah. But Nick, you're you're How are >> Yeah. But Nick, you're you're How are >> Yeah. But Nick, you're you're How are you hitting your protein targeting a you hitting your protein targeting a you hitting your protein targeting a thousand? You're not eating enough thousand? You're not eating enough thousand? You're not eating enough protein, bro. Nowhere near. protein, bro. Nowhere near. protein, bro. Nowhere near. >> Well, I should say usually usually >> Well, I should say usually usually >> Well, I should say usually usually usually I'm I'm pretty good about um usually I'm I'm pretty good about um usually I'm I'm pretty good about um hitting my protein target. hitting my protein target. hitting my protein target. >> Well, I'll tell you I'll tell you right >> Well, I'll tell you I'll tell you right >> Well, I'll tell you I'll tell you right now, the three days you just named, you now, the three days you just named, you now, the three days you just named, you probably didn't hit your protein intake. probably didn't hit your protein intake. probably didn't hit your protein intake. >> No, not at all. So, so be consistent >> No, not at all. So, so be consistent >> No, not at all. So, so be consistent with whole natural foods. with whole natural foods. with whole natural foods. >> Eat when you're hungry. Eat the protein >> Eat when you're hungry. Eat the protein >> Eat when you're hungry. Eat the protein first, but also eat on a schedule. I'm first, but also eat on a schedule. I'm first, but also eat on a schedule. I'm going to add that to you. going to add that to you. going to add that to you. >> So, don't let a few hours go without >> So, don't let a few hours go without >> So, don't let a few hours go without eating something. eating something. eating something. >> That'll help you out, dude. I mean, you >> That'll help you out, dude. I mean, you >> That'll help you out, dude. I mean, you need to hit your protein intake. Your need to hit your protein intake. Your need to hit your protein intake. Your calories are too low. calories are too low. calories are too low. >> Your your calories and then what's >> Your your calories and then what's >> Your your calories and then what's happening too is if you go back to back happening too is if you go back to back happening too is if you go back to back days where you're 1,00500 calories, then days where you're 1,00500 calories, then days where you're 1,00500 calories, then you're ravenous day three you're ravenous day three you're ravenous day three >> and then that that's and you might be >> and then that that's and you might be >> and then that that's and you might be overeating on those days. And so, and overeating on those days. And so, and overeating on those days. And so, and and protein isn't like uh carbs and fat and protein isn't like uh carbs and fat and protein isn't like uh carbs and fat where it's an average of your week. It's where it's an average of your week. It's where it's an average of your week. It's not like, [clears throat] oh, you had not like, [clears throat] oh, you had not like, [clears throat] oh, you had >> 300 grams of protein today and yesterday >> 300 grams of protein today and yesterday >> 300 grams of protein today and yesterday you had 50, therefore you have an you had 50, therefore you have an you had 50, therefore you have an average. No, it's every day you need to average. No, it's every day you need to average. No, it's every day you need to hit your protein intake or it's a missed hit your protein intake or it's a missed hit your protein intake or it's a missed day. And the more missed days you have, day. And the more missed days you have, day. And the more missed days you have, the we're going backwards. You need to the we're going backwards. You need to the we're going backwards. You need to be consistent with that. And I think if be consistent with that. And I think if be consistent with that. And I think if you just focus on it because you can't you just focus on it because you can't you just focus on it because you can't let a thousand calorie day go by. You let a thousand calorie day go by. You let a thousand calorie day go by. You got to hit you got to hit your protein got to hit you got to hit your protein got to hit you got to hit your protein intake every day. That's right. intake every day. That's right. intake every day. That's right. >> Hit your protein intake every day and >> Hit your protein intake every day and >> Hit your protein intake every day and make that a focus. And that's where I'd make that a focus. And that's where I'd make that a focus. And that's where I'd start you. And we can get more more start you. And we can get more more start you. And we can get more more detailed on the diet later, but that's a detailed on the diet later, but that's a detailed on the diet later, but that's a good place to start right there. Hitting good place to start right there. Hitting good place to start right there. Hitting the protein intake, following the advice the protein intake, following the advice the protein intake, following the advice we said about the uh training. Honestly, we said about the uh training. Honestly, we said about the uh training. Honestly, Nick, if you were consistent, if you Nick, if you were consistent, if you Nick, if you were consistent, if you were consistent with all that, uh, like were consistent with all that, uh, like were consistent with all that, uh, like really consistent, your body fat really consistent, your body fat really consistent, your body fat percentage is going to fall at a nice percentage is going to fall at a nice percentage is going to fall at a nice probably 13 to 15%. You're going to have probably 13 to 15%. You're going to have probably 13 to 15%. You're going to have good muscle. You'll feel strong if you good muscle. You'll feel strong if you good muscle. You'll feel strong if you just did that consistently and no need just did that consistently and no need just did that consistently and no need to without tracking, without diligent to without tracking, without diligent to without tracking, without diligent tracking. tracking. tracking. >> Okay. Wow. 13%. I don't know if I've >> Okay. Wow. 13%. I don't know if I've >> Okay. Wow. 13%. I don't know if I've ever been 13% in my entire life. ever been 13% in my entire life. ever been 13% in my entire life. >> Yeah, you absolutely can get >> Yeah, you absolutely can get >> Yeah, you absolutely can get >> Yeah, it you'll be in the mid- teens. >> Yeah, it you'll be in the mid- teens. >> Yeah, it you'll be in the mid- teens. Okay. Yep. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yep. Okay. Wow. Okay. Yep. Okay. Wow. Good time to do it, bro. You don't have Good time to do it, bro. You don't have Good time to do it, bro. You don't have any kids yet. any kids yet. any kids yet. >> No, no, no, no kidding. >> No, no, no, no kidding. >> No, no, no, no kidding. >> It only gets hard. It only gets harder >> It only gets hard. It only gets harder >> It only gets hard. It only gets harder with that. So, you want to have this all with that. So, you want to have this all with that. So, you want to have this all figured out before that. figured out before that. figured out before that. >> Nick, if you want if if you're >> Nick, if you want if if you're >> Nick, if you want if if you're interested in more consistent like interested in more consistent like interested in more consistent like having someone work with you through having someone work with you through having someone work with you through this process. Uh, we have really good this process. Uh, we have really good this process. Uh, we have really good coaches that could work with you through coaches that could work with you through coaches that could work with you through this process and help you kind of move this process and help you kind of move this process and help you kind of move through the whole thing through the whole thing through the whole thing >> because I I I I hear a little >> because I I I I hear a little >> because I I I I hear a little apprehension or fear [clears throat] apprehension or fear [clears throat] apprehension or fear [clears throat] with the going off the tracking. Like with the going off the tracking. Like with the going off the tracking. Like were you really overweight at one point were you really overweight at one point were you really overweight at one point in your life? Cuz there's a little bit in your life? Cuz there's a little bit in your life? Cuz there's a little bit of fear with of fear with of fear with >> uh for most of my life I was uh really >> uh for most of my life I was uh really >> uh for most of my life I was uh really overweight. I still would call myself overweight. I still would call myself overweight. I still would call myself overweight now, just not as overweight. overweight now, just not as overweight. overweight now, just not as overweight. And And And >> okay, >> okay, >> okay, >> I know there's just so much like comfort >> I know there's just so much like comfort >> I know there's just so much like comfort and and and >> I I'm I'm super uh consistent about >> I I'm I'm super uh consistent about >> I I'm I'm super uh consistent about tracking my calories. I don't always tracking my calories. I don't always tracking my calories. I don't always follow what I'm supposed to do, but it follow what I'm supposed to do, but it follow what I'm supposed to do, but it just makes you really uncomfortable to just makes you really uncomfortable to just makes you really uncomfortable to not know not know not know >> this makes sense. >> this makes sense. >> this makes sense. >> My calories and macros. >> My calories and macros. >> My calories and macros. >> Get a coach for a while. No, that that >> Get a coach for a while. No, that that >> Get a coach for a while. No, that that makes sense. makes sense. makes sense. >> Invest in a coach for a while. It'll be >> Invest in a coach for a while. It'll be >> Invest in a coach for a while. It'll be well worth it, well worth it, well worth it, >> bro. 6 months with a good coach, >> bro. 6 months with a good coach, >> bro. 6 months with a good coach, >> you'll come out of this totally >> you'll come out of this totally >> you'll come out of this totally different. different. different. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Totally different. >> Totally different. >> Totally different. >> Totally boost your confidence with that >> Totally boost your confidence with that >> Totally boost your confidence with that cuz this makes a lot of sense. cuz this makes a lot of sense. cuz this makes a lot of sense. >> I don't know if I could afford >> I don't know if I could afford >> I don't know if I could afford >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> Mhm. [clears throat] >> Well, this makes a lot of sense. >> Well, this makes a lot of sense. >> Well, this makes a lot of sense. >> I I would >> I I would >> I I would >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Go ahead. >> Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> No, no. I was just going to say it makes >> No, no. I was just going to say it makes >> No, no. I was just going to say it makes a lot of sense now when I heard you say a lot of sense now when I heard you say a lot of sense now when I heard you say uh you know, I don't know if I if I you uh you know, I don't know if I if I you uh you know, I don't know if I if I you know, going off tracking sounds like know, going off tracking sounds like know, going off tracking sounds like it's there was some apprehension there. it's there was some apprehension there. it's there was some apprehension there. Makes a lot of sense now. Um, you know, Makes a lot of sense now. Um, you know, Makes a lot of sense now. Um, you know, when you said you were kind of when you said you were kind of when you said you were kind of overweight as a kid for a long time, a overweight as a kid for a long time, a overweight as a kid for a long time, a little bit of fear around that. Not little bit of fear around that. Not little bit of fear around that. Not working with a coach is going to be very working with a coach is going to be very working with a coach is going to be very difficult. What we just said, like difficult. What we just said, like difficult. What we just said, like really hard. really hard. really hard. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Cuz it's going to be like letting >> Okay. Cuz it's going to be like letting >> Okay. Cuz it's going to be like letting go of a security blanket. And what that go of a security blanket. And what that go of a security blanket. And what that might look like, one of two things. might look like, one of two things. might look like, one of two things. Either A, you don't like the way it Either A, you don't like the way it Either A, you don't like the way it feels, you go back to tracking and you feels, you go back to tracking and you feels, you go back to tracking and you just stay where you're at. Or B, you go just stay where you're at. Or B, you go just stay where you're at. Or B, you go off the deep end and it feels like uh off the deep end and it feels like uh off the deep end and it feels like uh now I'm just out of control. uh now I'm now I'm just out of control. uh now I'm now I'm just out of control. uh now I'm eating like crazy and I and I can't eating like crazy and I and I can't eating like crazy and I and I can't stop. stop. stop. >> Uh so those are the two kind of extremes >> Uh so those are the two kind of extremes >> Uh so those are the two kind of extremes [clears throat] that people will fall [clears throat] that people will fall [clears throat] that people will fall when there's a little bit of that that when there's a little bit of that that when there's a little bit of that that path going on. So what a good coach is path going on. So what a good coach is path going on. So what a good coach is going to do is walk you through reverse going to do is walk you through reverse going to do is walk you through reverse diet. They're going to slowly take you diet. They're going to slowly take you diet. They're going to slowly take you off tracking. Uh but you are going to off tracking. Uh but you are going to off tracking. Uh but you are going to track at first. You're going to hit track at first. You're going to hit track at first. You're going to hit those targets. They're going to monitor those targets. They're going to monitor those targets. They're going to monitor your strength training, get you through your strength training, get you through your strength training, get you through that process. By the end of it, you're that process. By the end of it, you're that process. By the end of it, you're confident. You're confident you could do confident. You're confident you could do confident. You're confident you could do it. it. it. >> Okay. I I I would like to get a coach. I >> Okay. I I I would like to get a coach. I >> Okay. I I I would like to get a coach. I don't know if I could afford a good don't know if I could afford a good don't know if I could afford a good coach. That's coach. That's coach. That's >> Well, I'll tell you this much. You >> Well, I'll tell you this much. You >> Well, I'll tell you this much. You definitely can't afford a bad coach. definitely can't afford a bad coach. definitely can't afford a bad coach. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You don't want a bad coach. >> You don't want a bad coach. >> You don't want a bad coach. >> Yeah, too. >> Yeah, too. >> Yeah, too. >> That's a complete You might as well feel >> That's a complete You might as well feel >> That's a complete You might as well feel like I like I like I >> For real. >> For real. >> For real. >> Yeah. I feel like I'd be doing better >> Yeah. I feel like I'd be doing better >> Yeah. I feel like I'd be doing better with no coach than a bad coach. And at with no coach than a bad coach. And at with no coach than a bad coach. And at least I'm not burning money. least I'm not burning money. least I'm not burning money. >> Yes. You 100%. >> Yes. You 100%. >> Yes. You 100%. >> You what you need to look at this >> You what you need to look at this >> You what you need to look at this though, Nick, this is not this is not a though, Nick, this is not this is not a though, Nick, this is not this is not a luxury thing to have. This is an luxury thing to have. This is an luxury thing to have. This is an investment in yourself. And you just got investment in yourself. And you just got investment in yourself. And you just got to ask yourself if this is something to ask yourself if this is something to ask yourself if this is something that's really important to you. If it's that's really important to you. If it's that's really important to you. If it's not that important to you, then don't not that important to you, then don't not that important to you, then don't spend the money. Don't invest in it. But spend the money. Don't invest in it. But spend the money. Don't invest in it. But if this is something that before you if this is something that before you if this is something that before you have kids, this is something that you have kids, this is something that you have kids, this is something that you want to have control of. You want to see want to have control of. You want to see want to have control of. You want to see what low teens body fat percentage what low teens body fat percentage what low teens body fat percentage looks. You want to know what it's like looks. You want to know what it's like looks. You want to know what it's like to be able to maintain that comfortably, to be able to maintain that comfortably, to be able to maintain that comfortably, have eb and flows in work, be healthy, have eb and flows in work, be healthy, have eb and flows in work, be healthy, be fit, be a be a strong father, be good be fit, be a be a strong father, be good be fit, be a be a strong father, be good there for your wife. If you if that's there for your wife. If you if that's there for your wife. If you if that's something that's important to you and something that's important to you and something that's important to you and you want to invest, then you invest in you want to invest, then you invest in you want to invest, then you invest in it. If you don't, then you don't. But it. If you don't, then you don't. But it. If you don't, then you don't. But it's a lot like what I don't know what it's a lot like what I don't know what it's a lot like what I don't know what you do for work, but I'm sure you had to you do for work, but I'm sure you had to you do for work, but I'm sure you had to get certifications or get training or get certifications or get training or get certifications or get training or learn your skill to make money. learn your skill to make money. learn your skill to make money. >> And I'm sure whatever that cost >> And I'm sure whatever that cost >> And I'm sure whatever that cost time-wise, effort-wise to do that, it's time-wise, effort-wise to do that, it's time-wise, effort-wise to do that, it's paid itself 10fold back because it's paid itself 10fold back because it's paid itself 10fold back because it's what you do for a career. The same thing what you do for a career. The same thing what you do for a career. The same thing is with this with with coaching is this is with this with with coaching is this is with this with with coaching is this is not a luxury or I'm buying something is not a luxury or I'm buying something is not a luxury or I'm buying something that would be nice to have. This is an that would be nice to have. This is an that would be nice to have. This is an investment in learning about yourself investment in learning about yourself investment in learning about yourself and figuring this out. But if you don't and figuring this out. But if you don't and figuring this out. But if you don't give a [ __ ] then you don't give a [ __ ] give a [ __ ] then you don't give a [ __ ] give a [ __ ] then you don't give a [ __ ] But if you care, then that's what this But if you care, then that's what this But if you care, then that's what this is. And then Yeah. And then you're And is. And then Yeah. And then you're And is. And then Yeah. And then you're And then after you have it, you have those then after you have it, you have those then after you have it, you have those tools forever. tools forever. tools forever. >> Well, when you put it that way. Okay. >> Well, when you put it that way. Okay. >> Well, when you put it that way. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. Look, let me have I'll have >> Yeah. Look, let me have I'll have >> Yeah. Look, let me have I'll have somebody call you today. You ask all the somebody call you today. You ask all the somebody call you today. You ask all the questions you want. questions you want. questions you want. >> See if it's something you want to do. >> See if it's something you want to do. >> See if it's something you want to do. Um, but I'm really glad I asked you the Um, but I'm really glad I asked you the Um, but I'm really glad I asked you the qu the the the the last two questions qu the the the the last two questions qu the the the the last two questions that I ask you because this makes a lot that I ask you because this makes a lot that I ask you because this makes a lot of sense now. of sense now. of sense now. >> Um, and it would be like it would be >> Um, and it would be like it would be >> Um, and it would be like it would be life-changing for someone like you. life-changing for someone like you. life-changing for someone like you. >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I' I'd love someone to >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I' I'd love someone to >> Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I' I'd love someone to to reach out to me and and at least talk to reach out to me and and at least talk to reach out to me and and at least talk about it. about it. about it. >> All right, Nick. Let's do that. >> All right, Nick. Let's do that. >> All right, Nick. Let's do that. >> I hope to see you in there, brother. >> I hope to see you in there, brother. >> I hope to see you in there, brother. >> If we see you in there, I'll see you in >> If we see you in there, I'll see you in >> If we see you in there, I'll see you in there cuz I hop in on some of the calls. there cuz I hop in on some of the calls. there cuz I hop in on some of the calls. So, So, So, >> all right. I appreciate it. Thank you >> all right. I appreciate it. Thank you >> all right. I appreciate it. Thank you very much, guys. very much, guys. very much, guys. >> Oh, by the way, you drive down the Bay >> Oh, by the way, you drive down the Bay >> Oh, by the way, you drive down the Bay Area, right? Area, right? Area, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. Usually San Francisco. >> Yeah. Yeah. Usually San Francisco. >> Yeah. Yeah. Usually San Francisco. >> Okay. So, we're in San Jose and uh you >> Okay. So, we're in San Jose and uh you >> Okay. So, we're in San Jose and uh you end up working with one of our coaches. end up working with one of our coaches. end up working with one of our coaches. We'll probably see you here and there. We'll probably see you here and there. We'll probably see you here and there. >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll have you have you come >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll have you have you come >> Yeah. Yeah. We'll have you have you come in. We're in San Jose. in. We're in San Jose. in. We're in San Jose. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, I would I'd absolutely love that. >> Oh, I would I'd absolutely love that. >> Oh, I would I'd absolutely love that. Fantastic. [clears throat] Fantastic. [clears throat] Fantastic. [clears throat] >> Yeah, it's good. >> Yeah, it's good. >> Yeah, it's good. >> Right on, Nick. Thanks, bro. >> Right on, Nick. Thanks, bro. >> Right on, Nick. Thanks, bro. >> Hope to see you, brother. All right. >> Hope to see you, brother. All right. >> Hope to see you, brother. All right. Thanks, guys. Take care. Thanks, guys. Take care. Thanks, guys. Take care. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> You know what's funny is uh what a what >> You know what's funny is uh what a what >> You know what's funny is uh what a what another what a lesson, right? That looks another what a lesson, right? That looks another what a lesson, right? That looks can be deceiving because initially can be deceiving because initially can be deceiving because initially you're talking to him and it just sounds you're talking to him and it just sounds you're talking to him and it just sounds like regular dude. like regular dude. like regular dude. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Want to get in shape, contractor, >> Want to get in shape, contractor, >> Want to get in shape, contractor, whatever. whatever. whatever. >> There was hesitancy there though. >> There was hesitancy there though. >> There was hesitancy there though. >> And I I picked up on that and I was >> And I I picked up on that and I was >> And I I picked up on that and I was like, "Yeah, let me dig in that a little like, "Yeah, let me dig in that a little like, "Yeah, let me dig in that a little bit because that's it's an interesting bit because that's it's an interesting bit because that's it's an interesting thing that he just said." And sure thing that he just said." And sure thing that he just said." And sure enough, he was an overweight kid. enough, he was an overweight kid. enough, he was an overweight kid. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh it's like listen, >> And uh it's like listen, >> And uh it's like listen, >> it's good to know. >> it's good to know. >> it's good to know. >> Yeah, dude. It's what happens with >> Yeah, dude. It's what happens with >> Yeah, dude. It's what happens with someone like that when they try to go someone like that when they try to go someone like that when they try to go off track and either they don't because off track and either they don't because off track and either they don't because it's scary or they do and they go crazy it's scary or they do and they go crazy it's scary or they do and they go crazy with the food which then really scares with the food which then really scares with the food which then really scares them uh and they just don't solve this them uh and they just don't solve this them uh and they just don't solve this problem. And just you know for people problem. And just you know for people problem. And just you know for people listening a coach walks you through that listening a coach walks you through that listening a coach walks you through that process the whole and now it's very process the whole and now it's very process the whole and now it's very clear everything everything that's going clear everything everything that's going clear everything everything that's going on. He's he's uh underslept, overworked, on. He's he's uh underslept, overworked, on. He's he's uh underslept, overworked, underfed. underfed. underfed. >> Underfed >> Underfed >> Underfed >> recipe for body is not losing body fat, >> recipe for body is not losing body fat, >> recipe for body is not losing body fat, stuck at a certain place. stuck at a certain place. stuck at a certain place. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that that's 100% he's at that trifecta. >> that that's 100% he's at that trifecta. >> that that's 100% he's at that trifecta. And it's a step by step to fix that. But And it's a step by step to fix that. But And it's a step by step to fix that. But like I said, it's uh it's an investment like I said, it's uh it's an investment like I said, it's uh it's an investment in yourself to to learn this and figure in yourself to to learn this and figure in yourself to to learn this and figure it out. And either you care about it. it out. And either you care about it. it out. And either you care about it. You know what sucks is either you care You know what sucks is either you care You know what sucks is either you care about it now or you will care you will about it now or you will care you will about it now or you will care you will eventually eventually eventually >> at some point it's forced on. >> at some point it's forced on. >> at some point it's forced on. >> Yeah. And so hopefully he's at a place >> Yeah. And so hopefully he's at a place >> Yeah. And so hopefully he's at a place in his life where uh he can see that and in his life where uh he can see that and in his life where uh he can see that and have the foresight of you know what I have the foresight of you know what I have the foresight of you know what I don't want to be I also don't because don't want to be I also don't because don't want to be I also don't because throw on uh marriage two kids and older throw on uh marriage two kids and older throw on uh marriage two kids and older >> learn it now learn it now and it only >> learn it now learn it now and it only >> learn it now learn it now and it only gets stress bucket gets stress bucket gets stress bucket >> more difficult because that all those >> more difficult because that all those >> more difficult because that all those things are now things are now things are now >> as important or more important >> as important or more important >> as important or more important >> our next caller is Rachel from England >> our next caller is Rachel from England >> our next caller is Rachel from England >> Rachel doing Rachel how are you >> Rachel doing Rachel how are you >> Rachel doing Rachel how are you >> hello hi lovely to meet you >> hello hi lovely to meet you >> hello hi lovely to meet you >> you too how can we help you >> you too how can we help you >> you too how can we help you >> yeah Um, just want to say thank you for >> yeah Um, just want to say thank you for >> yeah Um, just want to say thank you for all your advice and everything that you all your advice and everything that you all your advice and everything that you do. Um, I've been following you since, do. Um, I've been following you since, do. Um, I've been following you since, have 2021. Avid have 2021. Avid have 2021. Avid >> listener of you really. Um, trying to do >> listener of you really. Um, trying to do >> listener of you really. Um, trying to do learn everything I can. Um, I feel like learn everything I can. Um, I feel like learn everything I can. Um, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I'm 58. I'm spinning my wheels. I'm 58. I'm spinning my wheels. I'm 58. I am just double jab. 5'8, 147b, I am just double jab. 5'8, 147b, I am just double jab. 5'8, 147b, and I want to look like I lift. And I and I want to look like I lift. And I and I want to look like I lift. And I don't look like I lift. I'm on second don't look like I lift. I'm on second don't look like I lift. I'm on second time now on anabolic. Your anabolic time now on anabolic. Your anabolic time now on anabolic. Your anabolic following that second time through. Um I following that second time through. Um I following that second time through. Um I push. I've got my own home gym here push. I've got my own home gym here push. I've got my own home gym here that's got the everything here. Bench that's got the everything here. Bench that's got the everything here. Bench press, got cable machine, got everything press, got cable machine, got everything press, got cable machine, got everything that I need. Adjustable dumbbells, that I need. Adjustable dumbbells, that I need. Adjustable dumbbells, barbell. barbell. barbell. I really do push mass. I'm very very I really do push mass. I'm very very I really do push mass. I'm very very dedicated to it. Um I take HRT, dedicated to it. Um I take HRT, dedicated to it. Um I take HRT, testosterone. I'm on EAS, creatine. Um I testosterone. I'm on EAS, creatine. Um I testosterone. I'm on EAS, creatine. Um I eat roughly 2,000 calories a day. I eat roughly 2,000 calories a day. I eat roughly 2,000 calories a day. I always eat my protein. always eat my protein. always eat my protein. I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. >> Rachel, thank you for calling. First of >> Rachel, thank you for calling. First of >> Rachel, thank you for calling. First of all, I appreciate you following us for all, I appreciate you following us for all, I appreciate you following us for so long. so long. so long. >> Do you Do you How's your eyesight? >> Do you Do you How's your eyesight? >> Do you Do you How's your eyesight? >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Let's get to this. [laughter] >> Let's get to this. [laughter] >> Let's get to this. [laughter] I I I >> I don't mean to see the rest of you. I >> I don't mean to see the rest of you. I >> I don't mean to see the rest of you. I can see your shoulders. can see your shoulders. can see your shoulders. >> I can see the vein in your shoulder. >> I can see the vein in your shoulder. >> I can see the vein in your shoulder. >> I can tell. Yeah. >> I can tell. Yeah. >> I can tell. Yeah. I can tell you out. I can tell you lift I can tell you out. I can tell you lift I can tell you out. I can tell you lift weights. weights. weights. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm all, you know, I was, you >> Yeah. I'm all, you know, I was, you >> Yeah. I'm all, you know, I was, you know, JJ Virgin, the lady, I think she's know, JJ Virgin, the lady, I think she's know, JJ Virgin, the lady, I think she's been on your podcast before. I think been on your podcast before. I think been on your podcast before. I think that she's 63 and she's incredible. I that she's 63 and she's incredible. I that she's 63 and she's incredible. I want arms like she's got. want arms like she's got. want arms like she's got. >> Yeah. Well, I want to look like Mr. >> Yeah. Well, I want to look like Mr. >> Yeah. Well, I want to look like Mr. Olympia. [laughter] Listen, lift your Olympia. [laughter] Listen, lift your Olympia. [laughter] Listen, lift your arm up again. Let me see your arm again. arm up again. Let me see your arm again. arm up again. Let me see your arm again. Put your arm up. Let me see bicep. Put your arm up. Let me see bicep. Put your arm up. Let me see bicep. >> Give us your bicep. Oh, no. Stop it. But >> Give us your bicep. Oh, no. Stop it. But >> Give us your bicep. Oh, no. Stop it. But are you kidding me? are you kidding me? are you kidding me? >> Rachel, >> Rachel, >> Rachel, >> can I tell you what the problem is? >> can I tell you what the problem is? >> can I tell you what the problem is? Rachel, can I be blunt? Rachel, can I be blunt? Rachel, can I be blunt? >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> please. >> please. >> please. >> I think you're I think you're way too >> I think you're I think you're way too >> I think you're I think you're way too hard on yourself. hard on yourself. hard on yourself. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Okay. You're doing everything. You're >> Okay. You're doing everything. You're >> Okay. You're doing everything. You're doing everything. You look, but I don't doing everything. You look, but I don't doing everything. You look, but I don't I don't need to see the rest of you at I don't need to see the rest of you at I don't need to see the rest of you at all. I could just see your shoulders. If all. I could just see your shoulders. If all. I could just see your shoulders. If if you [laughter] if you said nothing, if you [laughter] if you said nothing, if you [laughter] if you said nothing, if you sent us a picture of this right if you sent us a picture of this right if you sent us a picture of this right here, I would have been like, "Oh, she here, I would have been like, "Oh, she here, I would have been like, "Oh, she lifts weights consistently." lifts weights consistently." lifts weights consistently." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think you're really hard on >> Yeah. I think you're really hard on >> Yeah. I think you're really hard on yourself, hun. How's your strength? Tell yourself, hun. How's your strength? Tell yourself, hun. How's your strength? Tell me about your strength. Tell me about me about your strength. Tell me about me about your strength. Tell me about your your lifts. your your lifts. your your lifts. >> Okay. So, I bench 110 pounds. Squatting >> Okay. So, I bench 110 pounds. Squatting >> Okay. So, I bench 110 pounds. Squatting is not brilliant cuz I've got one bad is not brilliant cuz I've got one bad is not brilliant cuz I've got one bad knee. But I squat 115 lb. Deadlift 183. knee. But I squat 115 lb. Deadlift 183. knee. But I squat 115 lb. Deadlift 183. Barbell curl 63 lbs. Barbell curl 63 lbs. Barbell curl 63 lbs. >> Rachel, [laughter] >> Rachel, [laughter] >> Rachel, [laughter] >> you're one of the strongest You're one >> you're one of the strongest You're one >> you're one of the strongest You're one of the strongest 58-year-old women that of the strongest 58-year-old women that of the strongest 58-year-old women that you probably have ever met. you probably have ever met. you probably have ever met. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Oh, wow. Okay. >> Yeah. That's nice to hear. >> Yeah. That's nice to hear. >> Yeah. That's nice to hear. >> Yeah. I mean, you're kicking butt, hun. >> Yeah. I mean, you're kicking butt, hun. >> Yeah. I mean, you're kicking butt, hun. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Look around. When you go outside >> Okay. Look around. When you go outside >> Okay. Look around. When you go outside today, look around at the average late today, look around at the average late today, look around at the average late 50s, early 60s woman. Do they look 50s, early 60s woman. Do they look 50s, early 60s woman. Do they look anything like you? anything like you? anything like you? >> Well, I play golf, so yeah, a lot of >> Well, I play golf, so yeah, a lot of >> Well, I play golf, so yeah, a lot of them are very fit and them are very fit and them are very fit and >> Yeah. and lean and >> Yeah. and lean and >> Yeah. and lean and >> I bet they don't look like you. >> I bet they don't look like you. >> I bet they don't look like you. >> You're really Yeah, you're really hard >> You're really Yeah, you're really hard >> You're really Yeah, you're really hard on yourself, hun. You're doing a great on yourself, hun. You're doing a great on yourself, hun. You're doing a great job. job. job. >> Tell me about I mean, I don't know if >> Tell me about I mean, I don't know if >> Tell me about I mean, I don't know if there's anything I can change, but let's there's anything I can change, but let's there's anything I can change, but let's talk a little bit. So, what does your talk a little bit. So, what does your talk a little bit. So, what does your nutrition look like? nutrition look like? nutrition look like? >> Um, massively into my protein. Um, I >> Um, massively into my protein. Um, I >> Um, massively into my protein. Um, I always get at least 30 grams of protein always get at least 30 grams of protein always get at least 30 grams of protein for breakfast and lunch, evening meal. for breakfast and lunch, evening meal. for breakfast and lunch, evening meal. Um, [clears throat] I now and again have Um, [clears throat] I now and again have Um, [clears throat] I now and again have a drink, not often. If I do, it's a a drink, not often. If I do, it's a a drink, not often. If I do, it's a tequila. tequila. tequila. Um, oh, sugar, you've gone off. Um, oh, sugar, you've gone off. Um, oh, sugar, you've gone off. >> No, we're here. >> No, we're here. >> No, we're here. >> Back off. Back off. Sorry. Um, yeah, I I >> Back off. Back off. Sorry. Um, yeah, I I >> Back off. Back off. Sorry. Um, yeah, I I try eat very clean. try eat very clean. try eat very clean. Um, I do 12,000 steps a day and on golf Um, I do 12,000 steps a day and on golf Um, I do 12,000 steps a day and on golf days I do 20,000. On the golf days, I days I do 20,000. On the golf days, I days I do 20,000. On the golf days, I try to eat more because you always say try to eat more because you always say try to eat more because you always say you have to eat to build muscle. you have to eat to build muscle. you have to eat to build muscle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, [snorts] I just feel like I'm >> So, [snorts] I just feel like I'm >> So, [snorts] I just feel like I'm spinning my wheels and for what I'm spinning my wheels and for what I'm spinning my wheels and for what I'm doing, I don't feel like I'm getting doing, I don't feel like I'm getting doing, I don't feel like I'm getting stronger. stronger. stronger. >> Well, what where your calorie do you >> Well, what where your calorie do you >> Well, what where your calorie do you have any idea where your calories land have any idea where your calories land have any idea where your calories land every day? every day? every day? >> Sounds like you're undereating. >> Sounds like you're undereating. >> Sounds like you're undereating. >> Yeah, I was going to say we might we >> Yeah, I was going to say we might we >> Yeah, I was going to say we might we might How much? 22. might How much? 22. might How much? 22. >> Two 2,000. Yeah, >> Two 2,000. Yeah, >> Two 2,000. Yeah, that's pretty low. And n And you said that's pretty low. And n And you said that's pretty low. And n And you said like 90 90 grams of protein a day on like 90 90 grams of protein a day on like 90 90 grams of protein a day on average. 30 g for average. 30 g for average. 30 g for >> Yes, definitely. I always hit my >> Yes, definitely. I always hit my >> Yes, definitely. I always hit my protein. protein. protein. >> Yeah. So, that's 90 g of protein. And >> Yeah. So, that's 90 g of protein. And >> Yeah. So, that's 90 g of protein. And you're would you say 48 lbs? you're would you say 48 lbs? you're would you say 48 lbs? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Add another You're tall, too. >> Okay. Add another You're tall, too. >> Okay. Add another You're tall, too. >> Add another 30 40 grams of protein. >> Add another 30 40 grams of protein. >> Add another 30 40 grams of protein. >> Yeah. Another meal. >> Yeah. Another meal. >> Yeah. Another meal. >> Just add another meal. >> Just add another meal. >> Just add another meal. >> Yeah. Another meal. >> Yeah. Another meal. >> Yeah. Another meal. >> You'll you'll you'll gain more muscle. >> You'll you'll you'll gain more muscle. >> You'll you'll you'll gain more muscle. >> Yeah. We need to build. We need we need >> Yeah. We need to build. We need we need >> Yeah. We need to build. We need we need to in order to So, just so you know, to in order to So, just so you know, to in order to So, just so you know, >> and just to be clear here because I >> and just to be clear here because I >> and just to be clear here because I think we we all agree that I think you think we we all agree that I think you think we we all agree that I think you look phenomenal. You look great. You look phenomenal. You look great. You look phenomenal. You look great. You could literally just keep doing what could literally just keep doing what could literally just keep doing what you're doing you're doing you're doing >> and you're kicking butt >> and you're kicking butt >> and you're kicking butt >> and you're kicking butt. But if you want >> and you're kicking butt. But if you want >> and you're kicking butt. But if you want to see more body composition change, if to see more body composition change, if to see more body composition change, if you want to build more muscle and be you want to build more muscle and be you want to build more muscle and be more feed, then we need to we need to more feed, then we need to we need to more feed, then we need to we need to fuel and we need to eat more. So we need fuel and we need to eat more. So we need fuel and we need to eat more. So we need to go on a bulk. We need to eat more to go on a bulk. We need to eat more to go on a bulk. We need to eat more calories. We need to really focus on calories. We need to really focus on calories. We need to really focus on building. I don't care if I see the building. I don't care if I see the building. I don't care if I see the scale go up 5 lbs or not. Like I want to scale go up 5 lbs or not. Like I want to scale go up 5 lbs or not. Like I want to see your strength go up, which it's by see your strength go up, which it's by see your strength go up, which it's by the way, it's good already. And if you the way, it's good already. And if you the way, it's good already. And if you were happy, I would be happy. But if were happy, I would be happy. But if were happy, I would be happy. But if you're telling me, Adam, I really I I you're telling me, Adam, I really I I you're telling me, Adam, I really I I want to see if I can build more muscle. want to see if I can build more muscle. want to see if I can build more muscle. I say, great. We need to eat more I say, great. We need to eat more I say, great. We need to eat more calories. We got to eat more. You're a calories. We got to eat more. You're a calories. We got to eat more. You're a very you're very active. very you're very active. very you're very active. >> You know, somebody who steps steps as >> You know, somebody who steps steps as >> You know, somebody who steps steps as much as you do, golfs on the top of your much as you do, golfs on the top of your much as you do, golfs on the top of your weight training. weight training. weight training. >> Yeah. You we need to feed you. We need >> Yeah. You we need to feed you. We need >> Yeah. You we need to feed you. We need to eat more calories to eat more calories to eat more calories >> and we need to go on a reverse diet. So, >> and we need to go on a reverse diet. So, >> and we need to go on a reverse diet. So, have you ever uh considered have have you ever uh considered have have you ever uh considered have somebody take you through this? Have you somebody take you through this? Have you somebody take you through this? Have you ever had a coach take you through it? ever had a coach take you through it? ever had a coach take you through it? >> I couldn't afford it at the moment. >> I couldn't afford it at the moment. >> I couldn't afford it at the moment. Yeah. It's not something that would be Yeah. It's not something that would be Yeah. It's not something that would be >> if you if you added another 30 to 40 >> if you if you added another 30 to 40 >> if you if you added another 30 to 40 gram of protein in another small meal, gram of protein in another small meal, gram of protein in another small meal, like another 300 calorie meal, and just like another 300 calorie meal, and just like another 300 calorie meal, and just stay consistent with that, you'll see stay consistent with that, you'll see stay consistent with that, you'll see your muscle go. your muscle go. your muscle go. >> Are you running any of our programs or >> Are you running any of our programs or >> Are you running any of our programs or you doing your own program? you doing your own program? you doing your own program? >> I'm on I'm on anabolic. >> I'm on I'm on anabolic. >> I'm on I'm on anabolic. >> You're on anabolic and I've I've got >> You're on anabolic and I've I've got >> You're on anabolic and I've I've got symmetry as well. symmetry as well. symmetry as well. >> Oh, great. Follow symmetry. >> Oh, great. Follow symmetry. >> Oh, great. Follow symmetry. >> Great. Two programs for you to toggle >> Great. Two programs for you to toggle >> Great. Two programs for you to toggle back and forth from. Yeah. back and forth from. Yeah. back and forth from. Yeah. >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We just need to eat more. >> Yeah. We just need to eat more. >> Yeah. We just need to eat more. >> You add another 300 another small meal >> You add another 300 another small meal >> You add another 300 another small meal with another 30 g of protein. Just that with another 30 g of protein. Just that with another 30 g of protein. Just that by itself, by itself, by itself, >> you'll feel that in the performance, >> you'll feel that in the performance, >> you'll feel that in the performance, too. too. too. >> But why not get fluffy? No. No. You're >> But why not get fluffy? No. No. You're >> But why not get fluffy? No. No. You're going to build muscle. going to build muscle. going to build muscle. >> You're so active that's not Yeah. >> You're so active that's not Yeah. >> You're so active that's not Yeah. >> And promise me you won't you won't get >> And promise me you won't you won't get >> And promise me you won't you won't get into In fact, I want No. Don't Don't get into In fact, I want No. Don't Don't get into In fact, I want No. Don't Don't get on the scale. Don't Don't judge that on the scale. Don't Don't judge that on the scale. Don't Don't judge that right now. Like the goal is eat more and right now. Like the goal is eat more and right now. Like the goal is eat more and let's see if we can get stronger on let's see if we can get stronger on let's see if we can get stronger on those lifts. The lifts that you already those lifts. The lifts that you already those lifts. The lifts that you already told us about. Let's see if we can told us about. Let's see if we can told us about. Let's see if we can increase those lifts. increase those lifts. increase those lifts. >> It's literally just another healthy meal >> It's literally just another healthy meal >> It's literally just another healthy meal with another 30 g of protein. That's it. with another 30 g of protein. That's it. with another 30 g of protein. That's it. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> That's it. Yeah, >> That's it. Yeah, >> That's it. Yeah, >> perfect spot for you. >> perfect spot for you. >> perfect spot for you. >> And you're just going to build you're >> And you're just going to build you're >> And you're just going to build you're just going to build muscle with it. just going to build muscle with it. just going to build muscle with it. You're not going to get [laughter] You're not going to get [laughter] You're not going to get [laughter] there's not going to be any body fat there's not going to be any body fat there's not going to be any body fat gain with that. gain with that. gain with that. >> Why don't I I love for you to just do >> Why don't I I love for you to just do >> Why don't I I love for you to just do that and follow back up with us in about that and follow back up with us in about that and follow back up with us in about 60 days. 60 days. 60 days. >> Yeah, let's do this. 60 days. Let's get >> Yeah, let's do this. 60 days. Let's get >> Yeah, let's do this. 60 days. Let's get you back on. you back on. you back on. >> Okay, that'd be lovely. Good. Yeah. >> Okay, that'd be lovely. Good. Yeah. >> Okay, that'd be lovely. Good. Yeah. Can't wait to see you. Can't wait to see you. Can't wait to see you. >> Thank you so much. Thank you for >> Thank you so much. Thank you for >> Thank you so much. Thank you for everything. everything. everything. >> Do it, Rachel. You love it. >> Do it, Rachel. You love it. >> Do it, Rachel. You love it. >> Bye. Love your family. Bye. >> Bye. Love your family. Bye. >> Bye. Love your family. Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> She's like, I don't know if I look like >> She's like, I don't know if I look like >> She's like, I don't know if I look like I live. I'm like she see there's like a I live. I'm like she see there's like a I live. I'm like she see there's like a a vein in your a vein in your a vein in your >> I see a vein in your delt, Rachel. >> I see a vein in your delt, Rachel. >> I see a vein in your delt, Rachel. You're a 58-y old woman with a bait. You're a 58-y old woman with a bait. You're a 58-y old woman with a bait. That was such a good That was a great That was such a good That was a great That was such a good That was a great great line, too. You asked her. Is there great line, too. You asked her. Is there great line, too. You asked her. Is there anything wrong with your eyesight? anything wrong with your eyesight? anything wrong with your eyesight? >> Yeah, dude. Like, what do you what do >> Yeah, dude. Like, what do you what do >> Yeah, dude. Like, what do you what do you [laughter] you [laughter] you [laughter] mean? She's compar, you know, typical JJ mean? She's compar, you know, typical JJ mean? She's compar, you know, typical JJ V. She's comparing herself to one woman, V. She's comparing herself to one woman, V. She's comparing herself to one woman, right? One woman social media. Yeah. right? One woman social media. Yeah. right? One woman social media. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody who's an exception to the Yeah. Somebody who's an exception to the Yeah. Somebody who's an exception to the rule type of deal. But man, what a and rule type of deal. But man, what a and rule type of deal. But man, what a and this is this is such a I think one of this is this is such a I think one of this is this is such a I think one of the most interesting parts about our job the most interesting parts about our job the most interesting parts about our job is that's a classic example of that's a is that's a classic example of that's a is that's a classic example of that's a dream place I want all my 58-year-old dream place I want all my 58-year-old dream place I want all my 58-year-old people to be like to get to that people to be like to get to that people to be like to get to that >> like to be where she's at leanness wise, >> like to be where she's at leanness wise, >> like to be where she's at leanness wise, activitywise, strengthwise, activitywise, strengthwise, activitywise, strengthwise, vibrance, I mean hormonally, all the vibrance, I mean hormonally, all the vibrance, I mean hormonally, all the things she's doing at all. things she's doing at all. things she's doing at all. >> But she still wants more. And so this is >> But she still wants more. And so this is >> But she still wants more. And so this is the part where it's just like we can the part where it's just like we can the part where it's just like we can >> tweak a couple things. >> tweak a couple things. >> tweak a couple things. >> Yeah, we can tweak a couple things, >> Yeah, we can tweak a couple things, >> Yeah, we can tweak a couple things, >> but know that you're you're you're it. >> but know that you're you're you're it. >> but know that you're you're you're it. That's right. That's right. That's right. >> Yeah. This is it. This is the good place >> Yeah. This is it. This is the good place >> Yeah. This is it. This is the good place to be, you know. That's right. to be, you know. That's right. to be, you know. That's right. >> Our next caller is Tyler from >> Our next caller is Tyler from >> Our next caller is Tyler from Washington. Washington. Washington. >> What's up, Tyler? >> What's up, Tyler? >> What's up, Tyler? >> Hey, Tyler, man. >> Hey, Tyler, man. >> Hey, Tyler, man. >> Hey, how's it going? >> Hey, how's it going? >> Hey, how's it going? >> Good, man. >> Good, man. >> Good, man. >> Good, man. How can we help you? >> Good, man. How can we help you? >> Good, man. How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> How can we help you? >> Oh. Um, yeah. So, Justin looks nervous, >> Oh. Um, yeah. So, Justin looks nervous, >> Oh. Um, yeah. So, Justin looks nervous, so I'm just going to read my, you know, so I'm just going to read my, you know, so I'm just going to read my, you know, >> thanks, man. Let's get this over with. >> thanks, man. Let's get this over with. >> thanks, man. Let's get this over with. [laughter] Yeah. Uh, hey Mind Pump team. I'm 25 Yeah. Uh, hey Mind Pump team. I'm 25 years old. I've been listening to you years old. I've been listening to you years old. I've been listening to you guys for about four years now. And ever guys for about four years now. And ever guys for about four years now. And ever since my life has changed so since my life has changed so since my life has changed so drastically. Um, from interest and drastically. Um, from interest and drastically. Um, from interest and hobbies to relationships and work, hobbies to relationships and work, hobbies to relationships and work, you've always been in my ear providing you've always been in my ear providing you've always been in my ear providing guidance on health and longevity. Um, guidance on health and longevity. Um, guidance on health and longevity. Um, also wanted to mention back in college also wanted to mention back in college also wanted to mention back in college you guys inspired me to build an app to you guys inspired me to build an app to you guys inspired me to build an app to track my protein and now I'm working on track my protein and now I'm working on track my protein and now I'm working on another fitness related app. So, as my another fitness related app. So, as my another fitness related app. So, as my mentors from afar, I'd like your advice mentors from afar, I'd like your advice mentors from afar, I'd like your advice on finding life mentors who I aspire to on finding life mentors who I aspire to on finding life mentors who I aspire to learn from and share my struggles with. learn from and share my struggles with. learn from and share my struggles with. Um, I remember once you described your Um, I remember once you described your Um, I remember once you described your 20s in one word and it was lost. I can't 20s in one word and it was lost. I can't 20s in one word and it was lost. I can't help but resonate with that so strongly. help but resonate with that so strongly. help but resonate with that so strongly. Um, so who were your mentors and how did Um, so who were your mentors and how did Um, so who were your mentors and how did you find them? you find them? you find them? >> For some background information about >> For some background information about >> For some background information about me, uh, I moved to Seattle 2 years ago me, uh, I moved to Seattle 2 years ago me, uh, I moved to Seattle 2 years ago for a software engineer job. Um, it pays for a software engineer job. Um, it pays for a software engineer job. Um, it pays great and I love the benefits, but I'm great and I love the benefits, but I'm great and I love the benefits, but I'm not very passionate about my work. I'm not very passionate about my work. I'm not very passionate about my work. I'm passionate about tech and using it to passionate about tech and using it to passionate about tech and using it to improve people's lives, not really improve people's lives, not really improve people's lives, not really maintaining enterprise level systems maintaining enterprise level systems maintaining enterprise level systems that aren't helping anyone. that aren't helping anyone. that aren't helping anyone. Um, and I just picked up playing hockey Um, and I just picked up playing hockey Um, and I just picked up playing hockey two years ago. I'm currently on a beer two years ago. I'm currently on a beer two years ago. I'm currently on a beer league team and this has been a blast league team and this has been a blast league team and this has been a blast for creating a sense of purpose and for creating a sense of purpose and for creating a sense of purpose and community, but it's only once a week. community, but it's only once a week. community, but it's only once a week. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> Thanks. >> Yeah, you got it, man. Thanks for >> Yeah, you got it, man. Thanks for >> Yeah, you got it, man. Thanks for calling in, bro. calling in, bro. calling in, bro. >> This is cool. I curious uh because it >> This is cool. I curious uh because it >> This is cool. I curious uh because it sounds like you're What are you sounds like you're What are you sounds like you're What are you passionate about? What do you want to do passionate about? What do you want to do passionate about? What do you want to do long term work-wise? What what's kind of long term work-wise? What what's kind of long term work-wise? What what's kind of like what's dream job, dream situation like what's dream job, dream situation like what's dream job, dream situation for you? for you? for you? >> Um, every time I touch tech, it tends to >> Um, every time I touch tech, it tends to >> Um, every time I touch tech, it tends to revolve around um just bettering revolve around um just bettering revolve around um just bettering people's lives, usually through health people's lives, usually through health people's lives, usually through health and fitness because that's where I've um and fitness because that's where I've um and fitness because that's where I've um seen the most growth myself. seen the most growth myself. seen the most growth myself. >> Nice, dude. So I so advice around that >> Nice, dude. So I so advice around that >> Nice, dude. So I so advice around that because I feel like this is a cool way because I feel like this is a cool way because I feel like this is a cool way to kind of hack into finding a mentor to kind of hack into finding a mentor to kind of hack into finding a mentor and then also accelerate your growth in and then also accelerate your growth in and then also accelerate your growth in business and financially. So I would business and financially. So I would business and financially. So I would find somebody who is doing something find somebody who is doing something find somebody who is doing something that I like doing the dream job or doing that I like doing the dream job or doing that I like doing the dream job or doing something in the field that I would love something in the field that I would love something in the field that I would love to be in to be in to be in >> and I would find a way to offer my >> and I would find a way to offer my >> and I would find a way to offer my services to them free. what no matter services to them free. what no matter services to them free. what no matter what it is, I don't give a [ __ ] if it's what it is, I don't give a [ __ ] if it's what it is, I don't give a [ __ ] if it's driving them around, helping them driving them around, helping them driving them around, helping them around, you know, the office, running around, you know, the office, running around, you know, the office, running errands for them. I would offer my errands for them. I would offer my errands for them. I would offer my services to that person so I could be services to that person so I could be services to that person so I could be get in proximity of that person because get in proximity of that person because get in proximity of that person because just being around that person who is just being around that person who is just being around that person who is doing the thing that I want to do I'm doing the thing that I want to do I'm doing the thing that I want to do I'm going to gain so much from that learning going to gain so much from that learning going to gain so much from that learning that and then in that process I might that and then in that process I might that and then in that process I might end up building a a natural mentor right end up building a a natural mentor right end up building a a natural mentor right there or maybe the people that are there or maybe the people that are there or maybe the people that are around that person I find a a mentor around that person I find a a mentor around that person I find a a mentor too. I think that's a great strategy and too. I think that's a great strategy and too. I think that's a great strategy and I think uh it does like I said it I think uh it does like I said it I think uh it does like I said it doesn't need to be paid. I think doesn't need to be paid. I think doesn't need to be paid. I think sometimes people feel like, well, but I sometimes people feel like, well, but I sometimes people feel like, well, but I need to make money. I was like, cool. need to make money. I was like, cool. need to make money. I was like, cool. Make money. Do your thing that makes the Make money. Do your thing that makes the Make money. Do your thing that makes the job. But then if you really want to job. But then if you really want to job. But then if you really want to pursue a good mentorship or you really pursue a good mentorship or you really pursue a good mentorship or you really want to accelerate and and grow in a want to accelerate and and grow in a want to accelerate and and grow in a different field, go find the person different field, go find the person different field, go find the person who's doing something closest to what who's doing something closest to what who's doing something closest to what you want to do you want to do you want to do >> later in your life and go go help them >> later in your life and go go help them >> later in your life and go go help them out for free. And I any and and if this out for free. And I any and and if this out for free. And I any and and if this is a good person and a good potential is a good person and a good potential is a good person and a good potential mentor like is I would never shut down a mentor like is I would never shut down a mentor like is I would never shut down a kid who knocked on our door and said, kid who knocked on our door and said, kid who knocked on our door and said, "Hey, I will I want to work for you guys "Hey, I will I want to work for you guys "Hey, I will I want to work for you guys for free. Uh what can I do? I just want for free. Uh what can I do? I just want for free. Uh what can I do? I just want to be around you and around the things to be around you and around the things to be around you and around the things that you're doing. What can I do?" Like that you're doing. What can I do?" Like that you're doing. What can I do?" Like I would never kick that kid out. Those I would never kick that kid out. Those I would never kick that kid out. Those all of us would be like awesome. And all of us would be like awesome. And all of us would be like awesome. And we'd probably find something for him to we'd probably find something for him to we'd probably find something for him to do to be around us and then that would do to be around us and then that would do to be around us and then that would foster a relationship. And let me tell foster a relationship. And let me tell foster a relationship. And let me tell you, we have kids that work for us today you, we have kids that work for us today you, we have kids that work for us today that started in free interns that make a that started in free interns that make a that started in free interns that make a tremendous amount of money working for tremendous amount of money working for tremendous amount of money working for us now. And that's how that relationship us now. And that's how that relationship us now. And that's how that relationship started was, hey, I'll do anything. I started was, hey, I'll do anything. I started was, hey, I'll do anything. I don't know how to edit or anything like don't know how to edit or anything like don't know how to edit or anything like that. I'll learn and I'll do it for free that. I'll learn and I'll do it for free that. I'll learn and I'll do it for free and and now these people are in and and now these people are in and and now these people are in leadership positions in this company leadership positions in this company leadership positions in this company making big money. And so that's what I making big money. And so that's what I making big money. And so that's what I would do if I was you is I would I would would do if I was you is I would I would would do if I was you is I would I would find who who that is and then find a way find who who that is and then find a way find who who that is and then find a way to get in there and help out for free to get in there and help out for free to get in there and help out for free and and see what where that goes from and and see what where that goes from and and see what where that goes from there. there. there. >> Tyler, what are your what are the main >> Tyler, what are your what are the main >> Tyler, what are your what are the main motivations for um finding a mentor? motivations for um finding a mentor? motivations for um finding a mentor? >> Um I think it's just the sense of being >> Um I think it's just the sense of being >> Um I think it's just the sense of being lost and um wanting to look up to lost and um wanting to look up to lost and um wanting to look up to someone, someone to um I don't know. I'm someone, someone to um I don't know. I'm someone, someone to um I don't know. I'm not sure. just something to uh navigate not sure. just something to uh navigate not sure. just something to uh navigate my life with. my life with. my life with. >> What you said just made sense. Uh I >> What you said just made sense. Uh I >> What you said just made sense. Uh I totally get that. totally get that. totally get that. >> So uh I'll start with a caveat. Okay. Um >> So uh I'll start with a caveat. Okay. Um >> So uh I'll start with a caveat. Okay. Um and something I learned uh in my youth and something I learned uh in my youth and something I learned uh in my youth with mentors is uh that don't forget with mentors is uh that don't forget with mentors is uh that don't forget people are people. people are people. people are people. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And so what you don't want to do is put >> And so what you don't want to do is put >> And so what you don't want to do is put someone on a pedestal because they'll someone on a pedestal because they'll someone on a pedestal because they'll let you down. Uh but you can find good let you down. Uh but you can find good let you down. Uh but you can find good mentors in different parts of life. So a mentors in different parts of life. So a mentors in different parts of life. So a good business mentor doesn't mean that good business mentor doesn't mean that good business mentor doesn't mean that they're going to be a good family mentor they're going to be a good family mentor they're going to be a good family mentor or a good, you know, morality mentor, or a good, you know, morality mentor, or a good, you know, morality mentor, but good in in that one area. So just but good in in that one area. So just but good in in that one area. So just consider that. Also consider when it consider that. Also consider when it consider that. Also consider when it comes to mentorship, it works both ways comes to mentorship, it works both ways comes to mentorship, it works both ways and and all of it for your benefit. In and and all of it for your benefit. In and and all of it for your benefit. In other words, uh you can find someone other words, uh you can find someone other words, uh you can find someone who's in a different stage of life from who's in a different stage of life from who's in a different stage of life from you, an older an older guy who's doing you, an older an older guy who's doing you, an older an older guy who's doing things, you can learn from him, but then things, you can learn from him, but then things, you can learn from him, but then also you can take someone under you also you can take someone under you also you can take someone under you who's younger than you that's in a who's younger than you that's in a who's younger than you that's in a different stage. And both of those will different stage. And both of those will different stage. And both of those will will benefit you greatly. So, mentoring will benefit you greatly. So, mentoring will benefit you greatly. So, mentoring others is another form of mentorship others is another form of mentorship others is another form of mentorship that will actually bring you a that will actually bring you a that will actually bring you a tremendous amount of value. Um, good tremendous amount of value. Um, good tremendous amount of value. Um, good places to look. Do you go to a church? places to look. Do you go to a church? places to look. Do you go to a church? >> I do not. >> I do not. >> I do not. >> Okay. So, here's the deal. If you're >> Okay. So, here's the deal. If you're >> Okay. So, here's the deal. If you're feeling lost, you want to find a good feeling lost, you want to find a good feeling lost, you want to find a good community. You mentioned the beer league community. You mentioned the beer league community. You mentioned the beer league that you're in in your email and it that you're in in your email and it that you're in in your email and it sounds like that like you're finding sounds like that like you're finding sounds like that like you're finding like some good community there. Okay. like some good community there. Okay. like some good community there. Okay. Find yourself a good church. You don't Find yourself a good church. You don't Find yourself a good church. You don't have to believe in anything yet, but if have to believe in anything yet, but if have to believe in anything yet, but if you go in there with the attitude of I you go in there with the attitude of I you go in there with the attitude of I want to meet people, find a good want to meet people, find a good want to meet people, find a good community. Good churches always have a community. Good churches always have a community. Good churches always have a really tight community. Mentorship is really tight community. Mentorship is really tight community. Mentorship is typically baked into the community typically baked into the community typically baked into the community itself because it's part of the gospel. itself because it's part of the gospel. itself because it's part of the gospel. Find yourself a good church. Just walk Find yourself a good church. Just walk Find yourself a good church. Just walk in, be curious, and then ask them if in, be curious, and then ask them if in, be curious, and then ask them if they have any life groups or if they they have any life groups or if they they have any life groups or if they have any community- based groups for have any community- based groups for have any community- based groups for guys your age or whatever, and you'll guys your age or whatever, and you'll guys your age or whatever, and you'll find some great ones. Um, or you should find some great ones. Um, or you should find some great ones. Um, or you should be able to find some great ones. And be able to find some great ones. And be able to find some great ones. And then just show up. If you're open to then just show up. If you're open to then just show up. If you're open to meeting people and open to new meeting people and open to new meeting people and open to new experiences, I think you'll be quite uh experiences, I think you'll be quite uh experiences, I think you'll be quite uh surprised. And for someone your age surprised. And for someone your age surprised. And for someone your age who's looking for growth, who feels a who's looking for growth, who feels a who's looking for growth, who feels a little lost, uh I think that could be a little lost, uh I think that could be a little lost, uh I think that could be a phenomenal place uh to find some of the phenomenal place uh to find some of the phenomenal place uh to find some of the the the meaning and purpose and also the the the meaning and purpose and also the the the meaning and purpose and also the community that you're looking for. community that you're looking for. community that you're looking for. >> Just to piggyback more off of what S >> Just to piggyback more off of what S >> Just to piggyback more off of what S said about uh I'm so glad he he he said said about uh I'm so glad he he he said said about uh I'm so glad he he he said that about not putting them on a pedest that about not putting them on a pedest that about not putting them on a pedest because I know I pushed you in the because I know I pushed you in the because I know I pushed you in the business direction because that's where business direction because that's where business direction because that's where my brain goes always. Uh the people who my brain goes always. Uh the people who my brain goes always. Uh the people who I think of in my life that are like I think of in my life that are like I think of in my life that are like mentors are are different for all mentors are are different for all mentors are are different for all different categories. There's definitely different categories. There's definitely different categories. There's definitely the business killer who I go when I got the business killer who I go when I got the business killer who I go when I got something on my mind I'm wrestling with something on my mind I'm wrestling with something on my mind I'm wrestling with I can't get breakthrough in this I can't get breakthrough in this I can't get breakthrough in this business and something there's business and something there's business and something there's definitely someone I pick up the phone definitely someone I pick up the phone definitely someone I pick up the phone and and it's that is not the same person and and it's that is not the same person and and it's that is not the same person who when I'm struggling with something who when I'm struggling with something who when I'm struggling with something with my wife and my kid or something with my wife and my kid or something with my wife and my kid or something like that and I pick up the phone, like that and I pick up the phone, like that and I pick up the phone, right? Or there's somebody who I'm right? Or there's somebody who I'm right? Or there's somebody who I'm struggling with with my relationship or struggling with with my relationship or struggling with with my relationship or walk with Christ. It's they're all walk with Christ. It's they're all walk with Christ. It's they're all different people. So there isn't one one different people. So there isn't one one different people. So there isn't one one man that I go like, "Oh, he's the all man that I go like, "Oh, he's the all man that I go like, "Oh, he's the all these." It rarely ever is that. Normally these." It rarely ever is that. Normally these." It rarely ever is that. Normally each one of them are in their each one of them are in their each one of them are in their discipline, they're amazing. My my discipline, they're amazing. My my discipline, they're amazing. My my spiritual guidance, he's the worst spiritual guidance, he's the worst spiritual guidance, he's the worst person to ask business advice from. person to ask business advice from. person to ask business advice from. >> My my business guy, worst guy to ask >> My my business guy, worst guy to ask >> My my business guy, worst guy to ask spiritual advice. You know what I'm spiritual advice. You know what I'm spiritual advice. You know what I'm saying? Like my and and my business guy, saying? Like my and and my business guy, saying? Like my and and my business guy, terrible guy to ask, you know, terrible guy to ask, you know, terrible guy to ask, you know, parenting, family stuff. Right. So, uh parenting, family stuff. Right. So, uh parenting, family stuff. Right. So, uh very good point to don't you know who very good point to don't you know who very good point to don't you know who really be uh cognizant of what you're really be uh cognizant of what you're really be uh cognizant of what you're seeking for what reasons and go after it seeking for what reasons and go after it seeking for what reasons and go after it for for those reasons and and let go of for for those reasons and and let go of for for those reasons and and let go of the fact that he he may not be the best the fact that he he may not be the best the fact that he he may not be the best father but hey when he's helping you father but hey when he's helping you father but hey when he's helping you with your business mind and what you're with your business mind and what you're with your business mind and what you're working on there. Great great mentor for working on there. Great great mentor for working on there. Great great mentor for that. So I think that that's great that. So I think that that's great that. So I think that that's great advice and so and and that's what it advice and so and and that's what it advice and so and and that's what it looks like in my life. It doesn't look looks like in my life. It doesn't look looks like in my life. It doesn't look like one man is that for me or one woman like one man is that for me or one woman like one man is that for me or one woman is that is that is that >> collective bunch of people in my life >> collective bunch of people in my life >> collective bunch of people in my life like that that you you find aspects that like that that you you find aspects that like that that you you find aspects that you really admire about and it really you really admire about and it really you really admire about and it really it's it's about being open like so if it's it's about being open like so if it's it's about being open like so if you're already in a bit of a community you're already in a bit of a community you're already in a bit of a community you can start picking up on these things you can start picking up on these things you can start picking up on these things like you know what they do for their like you know what they do for their like you know what they do for their their trade like you know are they a their trade like you know are they a their trade like you know are they a good uh father are they a good role good uh father are they a good role good uh father are they a good role model in you know in the community model in you know in the community model in you know in the community somehow or you know is there a way that somehow or you know is there a way that somehow or you know is there a way that my skills can benefit them and then my skills can benefit them and then my skills can benefit them and then that's kind of like the bridge there that's kind of like the bridge there that's kind of like the bridge there where it opens up, you know, a lot of where it opens up, you know, a lot of where it opens up, you know, a lot of that opportunity where, you know, you're that opportunity where, you know, you're that opportunity where, you know, you're building your own network of of, you building your own network of of, you building your own network of of, you know, leaders and and you can you can know, leaders and and you can you can know, leaders and and you can you can definitely pull from them. Uh, and definitely pull from them. Uh, and definitely pull from them. Uh, and that's going to help to, you know, give that's going to help to, you know, give that's going to help to, you know, give you some guidance on this. you some guidance on this. you some guidance on this. >> I'm I'm really I'm really happy that you >> I'm I'm really I'm really happy that you >> I'm I'm really I'm really happy that you called at at your age at 24. called at at your age at 24. called at at your age at 24. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like that's this is this is excellent. >> Like that's this is this is excellent. >> Like that's this is this is excellent. >> This the fact that you feel lost uh is >> This the fact that you feel lost uh is >> This the fact that you feel lost uh is something that I didn't necessarily know something that I didn't necessarily know something that I didn't necessarily know I felt in my 20s until later. Then I felt in my 20s until later. Then I felt in my 20s until later. Then looking back like I was lost as heck. looking back like I was lost as heck. looking back like I was lost as heck. >> I was running all kinds of different >> I was running all kinds of different >> I was running all kinds of different directions. directions. directions. >> Shows a lot of maturity on your part. >> Shows a lot of maturity on your part. >> Shows a lot of maturity on your part. >> It's really really that's actually good. >> It's really really that's actually good. >> It's really really that's actually good. Even though it feels a little probably Even though it feels a little probably Even though it feels a little probably to you like um doesn't feel good. It's to you like um doesn't feel good. It's to you like um doesn't feel good. It's just your awareness of the reality. Um just your awareness of the reality. Um just your awareness of the reality. Um and I I just want to echo this. I don't and I I just want to echo this. I don't and I I just want to echo this. I don't know how open you are to going to a know how open you are to going to a know how open you are to going to a church, but I really think it would be a church, but I really think it would be a church, but I really think it would be a good idea to walk in and don't just good idea to walk in and don't just good idea to walk in and don't just attend a sermon. That's fine. But you attend a sermon. That's fine. But you attend a sermon. That's fine. But you talk to them afterwards and say, "Hey, talk to them afterwards and say, "Hey, talk to them afterwards and say, "Hey, do you guys have like do you guys have do you guys have like do you guys have do you guys have like do you guys have life groups and community?" and you life groups and community?" and you life groups and community?" and you could tell them, "I'm not a, you know, could tell them, "I'm not a, you know, could tell them, "I'm not a, you know, I'm not a believer, but I'm looking to I'm not a believer, but I'm looking to I'm not a believer, but I'm looking to make friends. I'm looking to build make friends. I'm looking to build make friends. I'm looking to build community." They'll welcome you in with community." They'll welcome you in with community." They'll welcome you in with open arms if they're a good church. And open arms if they're a good church. And open arms if they're a good church. And what you'll find there are probably what you'll find there are probably what you'll find there are probably really good people, but really good really good people, but really good really good people, but really good organized community. Um, and like what organized community. Um, and like what organized community. Um, and like what you get with your beer league, but you you get with your beer league, but you you get with your beer league, but you know, maybe even better and deeper. And know, maybe even better and deeper. And know, maybe even better and deeper. And then I think that'll move you in and and then I think that'll move you in and and then I think that'll move you in and and point you in different directions that I point you in different directions that I point you in different directions that I think will be beneficial. something that think will be beneficial. something that think will be beneficial. something that uh Sal said too that I think is uh Sal said too that I think is uh Sal said too that I think is important to reiterate too um and I important to reiterate too um and I important to reiterate too um and I don't know if you've heard me talk about don't know if you've heard me talk about don't know if you've heard me talk about my relationship with Katrina and one of my relationship with Katrina and one of my relationship with Katrina and one of the the most attractive qualities that the the most attractive qualities that the the most attractive qualities that made me fall in love with her about was made me fall in love with her about was made me fall in love with her about was I never at that point met a woman who I never at that point met a woman who I never at that point met a woman who had as many connections and had as many connections and had as many connections and relationships as I did. Uh, and I found relationships as I did. Uh, and I found relationships as I did. Uh, and I found that was super. And together it's that was super. And together it's that was super. And together it's amazing how we could pick up a phone and amazing how we could pick up a phone and amazing how we could pick up a phone and go anywhere, do anything, and we have go anywhere, do anything, and we have go anywhere, do anything, and we have somebody who who do that. And what somebody who who do that. And what somebody who who do that. And what that's from is it's from decades that's from is it's from decades that's from is it's from decades starting in my 20s all the way into my starting in my 20s all the way into my starting in my 20s all the way into my 40s and her also of doing for others, 40s and her also of doing for others, 40s and her also of doing for others, >> serving others. And that and that and >> serving others. And that and that and >> serving others. And that and that and it's amazing when you're you it's amazing when you're you it's amazing when you're you consistently do that without expecting consistently do that without expecting consistently do that without expecting anything in return but doing doing kind anything in return but doing doing kind anything in return but doing doing kind things and doing things of service to things and doing things of service to things and doing things of service to other people. Before you know it, you other people. Before you know it, you other people. Before you know it, you wake up and you're 35 one day and you've wake up and you're 35 one day and you've wake up and you're 35 one day and you've been doing that for 10 years and you've been doing that for 10 years and you've been doing that for 10 years and you've got a hundred people at the at the you got a hundred people at the at the you got a hundred people at the at the you could pick a phone up and call cuz you could pick a phone up and call cuz you could pick a phone up and call cuz you need help or a favor for something. But need help or a favor for something. But need help or a favor for something. But it all started with giving your time, it all started with giving your time, it all started with giving your time, giving your service, giving to others giving your service, giving to others giving your service, giving to others without expecting anything in return. without expecting anything in return. without expecting anything in return. And that builds. It's a beautiful thing And that builds. It's a beautiful thing And that builds. It's a beautiful thing when you do it. It takes time and when you do it. It takes time and when you do it. It takes time and consistency, but if you start now consistency, but if you start now consistency, but if you start now because you care about those things, because you care about those things, because you care about those things, you'll look back in your 30s and 40s and you'll look back in your 30s and 40s and you'll look back in your 30s and 40s and you're going to have a lot of mentors, a you're going to have a lot of mentors, a you're going to have a lot of mentors, a lot of connections, and a lot of people lot of connections, and a lot of people lot of connections, and a lot of people you can reach out to. you can reach out to. you can reach out to. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Yeah, dude. >> Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much. I >> Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much. I >> Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much. I appreciate it. appreciate it. appreciate it. >> Yeah, you got it, man. >> Yeah, you got it, man. >> Yeah, you got it, man. >> Do you mind if I ask another question? >> Do you mind if I ask another question? >> Do you mind if I ask another question? >> No, go. Let's go. >> No, go. Let's go. >> No, go. Let's go. >> Yeah. Um, so I wanted to know what my >> Yeah. Um, so I wanted to know what my >> Yeah. Um, so I wanted to know what my training should look like. I I want to training should look like. I I want to training should look like. I I want to bulletproof my body for sports, yet bulletproof my body for sports, yet bulletproof my body for sports, yet still build it for aesthetics. For some still build it for aesthetics. For some still build it for aesthetics. For some more context, I was a fat kid growing up more context, I was a fat kid growing up more context, I was a fat kid growing up and used keto dieting on and off. Um, and used keto dieting on and off. Um, and used keto dieting on and off. Um, this caused some thyroid issues and I've this caused some thyroid issues and I've this caused some thyroid issues and I've been diagnosed with Hashimoto's. I'm been diagnosed with Hashimoto's. I'm been diagnosed with Hashimoto's. I'm taking armor thyroid to help, but taking armor thyroid to help, but taking armor thyroid to help, but haven't really felt young since I was haven't really felt young since I was haven't really felt young since I was 20. Um, I've dislocated my right 20. Um, I've dislocated my right 20. Um, I've dislocated my right shoulder several times now. Had surgery shoulder several times now. Had surgery shoulder several times now. Had surgery to fix it, and it's popped out twice to fix it, and it's popped out twice to fix it, and it's popped out twice since. Every time it pops out, it since. Every time it pops out, it since. Every time it pops out, it loosens the work. Um, and I'm praying it loosens the work. Um, and I'm praying it loosens the work. Um, and I'm praying it doesn't pop out again, but I'm sure it doesn't pop out again, but I'm sure it doesn't pop out again, but I'm sure it eventually will. Um, and then at the end eventually will. Um, and then at the end eventually will. Um, and then at the end of May, I played in a hockey tournament of May, I played in a hockey tournament of May, I played in a hockey tournament and ended up with a grade two tear in my and ended up with a grade two tear in my and ended up with a grade two tear in my PCL and some MCL damage. So, still PCL and some MCL damage. So, still PCL and some MCL damage. So, still recovering from that. Um, and yeah, I'm recovering from that. Um, and yeah, I'm recovering from that. Um, and yeah, I'm not sure what my training should look not sure what my training should look not sure what my training should look like right now. like right now. like right now. >> How often are you playing? Are you >> How often are you playing? Are you >> How often are you playing? Are you practicing hockey right now? practicing hockey right now? practicing hockey right now? >> Right now I'm doing once a week. Um, >> Right now I'm doing once a week. Um, >> Right now I'm doing once a week. Um, just cuz my knee doesn't feel exactly just cuz my knee doesn't feel exactly just cuz my knee doesn't feel exactly stable. stable. stable. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> I want to get to twice a week. >> I want to get to twice a week. >> I want to get to twice a week. >> Okay. I like maps uh I like map symmetry >> Okay. I like maps uh I like map symmetry >> Okay. I like maps uh I like map symmetry for you. for you. for you. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'll send you that program. I >> Yeah, I'll send you that program. I >> Yeah, I'll send you that program. I think it'll be good unilateral. It'll think it'll be good unilateral. It'll think it'll be good unilateral. It'll help with stability both with your help with stability both with your help with stability both with your shoulder and with your knee and your hip shoulder and with your knee and your hip shoulder and with your knee and your hip and ankle which are connected to that. and ankle which are connected to that. and ankle which are connected to that. >> When you get up to playing two times a >> When you get up to playing two times a >> When you get up to playing two times a week, I'd move to like our math 15 week, I'd move to like our math 15 week, I'd move to like our math 15 protocol. protocol. protocol. >> Yeah. So, so maps so maps symmetry when >> Yeah. So, so maps so maps symmetry when >> Yeah. So, so maps so maps symmetry when you bump up your hockey maps 15 you bump up your hockey maps 15 you bump up your hockey maps 15 symmetry. symmetry. symmetry. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I see. >> I see. >> I see. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> I think that'd be perfect for Yeah. Very >> I think that'd be perfect for Yeah. Very >> I think that'd be perfect for Yeah. Very straightforward. straightforward. straightforward. >> We'll send you symmetry. >> We'll send you symmetry. >> We'll send you symmetry. >> Unilateral focus would be great. >> Unilateral focus would be great. >> Unilateral focus would be great. >> Cool. Thank you guys. >> Cool. Thank you guys. >> Cool. Thank you guys. >> You got it, man. Good luck, dude. >> You got it, man. Good luck, dude. >> You got it, man. Good luck, dude. >> Keep it up, Tyler. >> Keep it up, Tyler. >> Keep it up, Tyler. >> Thanks. Take care. >> Thanks. Take care. >> Thanks. Take care. >> Take it easy. >> Take it easy. >> Take it easy. >> I remember learning that lesson with >> I remember learning that lesson with >> I remember learning that lesson with some of my first mentors because they some of my first mentors because they some of my first mentors because they were phenomenal mentors. Uh and then you were phenomenal mentors. Uh and then you were phenomenal mentors. Uh and then you I put them on a pedestal. No, no, it was I put them on a pedestal. No, no, it was I put them on a pedestal. No, no, it was a great point you made, you know, and a great point you made, you know, and a great point you made, you know, and then I noticed the flaws in them which then I noticed the flaws in them which then I noticed the flaws in them which was like devastating, you know, as a was like devastating, you know, as a was like devastating, you know, as a kid. It's like, well, you're a person. kid. It's like, well, you're a person. kid. It's like, well, you're a person. Everybody's got everybody. Everybody's got everybody. Everybody's got everybody. >> No, no, it's such a great I mean, and >> No, no, it's such a great I mean, and >> No, no, it's such a great I mean, and and on I rarely do you get somebody and on I rarely do you get somebody and on I rarely do you get somebody who's like a real all-encompassing who's like a real all-encompassing who's like a real all-encompassing mentor. It's like you really It's very mentor. It's like you really It's very mentor. It's like you really It's very specific. That's right. Yeah. Great specific. That's right. Yeah. Great specific. That's right. Yeah. Great fathers tend to be great fathers, great fathers tend to be great fathers, great fathers tend to be great fathers, great business guys. But I mean, business guys. But I mean, business guys. But I mean, >> and and you and it's okay. It's okay to >> and and you and it's okay. It's okay to >> and and you and it's okay. It's okay to uh I don't and I don't think you take uh I don't and I don't think you take uh I don't and I don't think you take anything away from that person just anything away from that person just anything away from that person just because they're not good at another because they're not good at another because they're not good at another thing. It's like you can take from each. thing. It's like you can take from each. thing. It's like you can take from each. >> You just got to go into understanding >> You just got to go into understanding >> You just got to go into understanding that cuz otherwise it can be kind of that cuz otherwise it can be kind of that cuz otherwise it can be kind of devastating. devastating. devastating. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Our next caller is Jenna from Wisconsin. >> Our next caller is Jenna from Wisconsin. >> Our next caller is Jenna from Wisconsin. >> Jenna, welcome back. >> Jenna, welcome back. >> Jenna, welcome back. >> Jenna, you so good to see you guys >> Jenna, you so good to see you guys >> Jenna, you so good to see you guys again. How's it going? again. How's it going? again. How's it going? >> Good. Give us the update. How's hip >> Good. Give us the update. How's hip >> Good. Give us the update. How's hip flexor? flexor? flexor? >> Yeah, so the update is I've been doing >> Yeah, so the update is I've been doing >> Yeah, so the update is I've been doing the hip flexor isolation movement that the hip flexor isolation movement that the hip flexor isolation movement that you recommended, that Roman chair you recommended, that Roman chair you recommended, that Roman chair movement. Um, and I feel like things are movement. Um, and I feel like things are movement. Um, and I feel like things are definitely getting better, going in the definitely getting better, going in the definitely getting better, going in the right direction. I've definitely noticed right direction. I've definitely noticed right direction. I've definitely noticed some improved strength and stability in some improved strength and stability in some improved strength and stability in that area. Um, yesterday I actually for that area. Um, yesterday I actually for that area. Um, yesterday I actually for the first time loaded it with a 10 lb the first time loaded it with a 10 lb the first time loaded it with a 10 lb kettle bell um when I was doing it and kettle bell um when I was doing it and kettle bell um when I was doing it and that felt really good. So that felt really good. So that felt really good. So >> awesome. >> awesome. >> awesome. >> I I've definitely had less flare ups. >> I I've definitely had less flare ups. >> I I've definitely had less flare ups. Um, there were a couple though. One of Um, there were a couple though. One of Um, there were a couple though. One of them was after I was kind of running them was after I was kind of running them was after I was kind of running around with my kids. We have this track around with my kids. We have this track around with my kids. We have this track just down the road. So, we were just just down the road. So, we were just just down the road. So, we were just kind of running around, keeping up with kind of running around, keeping up with kind of running around, keeping up with my toddler. And the next day, I my toddler. And the next day, I my toddler. And the next day, I definitely noticed a little bit of a definitely noticed a little bit of a definitely noticed a little bit of a flare up, but it really was minor um and flare up, but it really was minor um and flare up, but it really was minor um and kind of less severe than I'm used to. Um kind of less severe than I'm used to. Um kind of less severe than I'm used to. Um and subsided pretty quickly. Um the and subsided pretty quickly. Um the and subsided pretty quickly. Um the other one was I recently resigned up for other one was I recently resigned up for other one was I recently resigned up for a a new old to me gym, I should say. Um, a a new old to me gym, I should say. Um, a a new old to me gym, I should say. Um, and I met with one of the trainers there and I met with one of the trainers there and I met with one of the trainers there and he kind of worked with me through and he kind of worked with me through and he kind of worked with me through some of my bigger lifts and I noticed some of my bigger lifts and I noticed some of my bigger lifts and I noticed the next day, um, after squatting and the next day, um, after squatting and the next day, um, after squatting and deadlifting that I could kind of feel deadlifting that I could kind of feel deadlifting that I could kind of feel the area talking a little bit, but the area talking a little bit, but the area talking a little bit, but again, it resolved quite quickly. Um, again, it resolved quite quickly. Um, again, it resolved quite quickly. Um, it's definitely not as bad as I am used it's definitely not as bad as I am used it's definitely not as bad as I am used to. So, I do think that that's still to. So, I do think that that's still to. So, I do think that that's still reassuring. reassuring. reassuring. Um, Um, Um, yeah, definitely feeling a little bit yeah, definitely feeling a little bit yeah, definitely feeling a little bit stronger. Um, from when I started doing stronger. Um, from when I started doing stronger. Um, from when I started doing those Roman chair movements to now, it's those Roman chair movements to now, it's those Roman chair movements to now, it's definitely like I feel like I can do it definitely like I feel like I can do it definitely like I feel like I can do it easier and I was comfortable enough to easier and I was comfortable enough to easier and I was comfortable enough to add that kettle bell in. add that kettle bell in. add that kettle bell in. >> Good job. >> Good job. >> Good job. >> Thank you. Um, a couple follow-up >> Thank you. Um, a couple follow-up >> Thank you. Um, a couple follow-up questions that I do have before getting questions that I do have before getting questions that I do have before getting back into heavier lifts. Um I'm back into heavier lifts. Um I'm back into heavier lifts. Um I'm currently I did run back symmetry so I currently I did run back symmetry so I currently I did run back symmetry so I after the third phase went back to phase after the third phase went back to phase after the third phase went back to phase one. So I'm currently at the end of one. So I'm currently at the end of one. So I'm currently at the end of phase two right now again. phase two right now again. phase two right now again. >> Um and then once I'm done with symmetry >> Um and then once I'm done with symmetry >> Um and then once I'm done with symmetry what would be the best program to slide what would be the best program to slide what would be the best program to slide into? In the past I've done in like the into? In the past I've done in like the into? In the past I've done in like the past year I should say I've done past year I should say I've done past year I should say I've done anabolic performance and muscle mommy. anabolic performance and muscle mommy. anabolic performance and muscle mommy. Um, I haven't done powerlift or strong Um, I haven't done powerlift or strong Um, I haven't done powerlift or strong before and I was wondering if maybe before and I was wondering if maybe before and I was wondering if maybe those might be a good option. those might be a good option. those might be a good option. >> Those are both great. >> Those are both great. >> Those are both great. >> Those are both great options. I will I >> Those are both great options. I will I >> Those are both great options. I will I want to give you some advice going want to give you some advice going want to give you some advice going forward uh with like if you notice that forward uh with like if you notice that forward uh with like if you notice that again uh nothing stops you from running again uh nothing stops you from running again uh nothing stops you from running a different program and then when I get a different program and then when I get a different program and then when I get to like barbell back squats, I do to like barbell back squats, I do to like barbell back squats, I do Bulgarian split squats instead. Bulgarian split squats instead. Bulgarian split squats instead. >> Okay. So, if you if you notice it's >> Okay. So, if you if you notice it's >> Okay. So, if you if you notice it's still kind of talking to you, uh we're still kind of talking to you, uh we're still kind of talking to you, uh we're we're improving from what you're doing, we're improving from what you're doing, we're improving from what you're doing, which is great. Great sign we're moving which is great. Great sign we're moving which is great. Great sign we're moving in the right direction. Uh real easy way in the right direction. Uh real easy way in the right direction. Uh real easy way to regress and go back the other way is to regress and go back the other way is to regress and go back the other way is to push yourself too much on a barbell to push yourself too much on a barbell to push yourself too much on a barbell back squat when it's not ready yet. back squat when it's not ready yet. back squat when it's not ready yet. >> So, if you if you feel it talking to you >> So, if you if you feel it talking to you >> So, if you if you feel it talking to you like that again when you do something, like that again when you do something, like that again when you do something, >> then just, hey, I'm going to do when I >> then just, hey, I'm going to do when I >> then just, hey, I'm going to do when I get to barbell back squats in the get to barbell back squats in the get to barbell back squats in the program, I'm going to do Bulgarian split program, I'm going to do Bulgarian split program, I'm going to do Bulgarian split squats instead. So, that would be my squats instead. So, that would be my squats instead. So, that would be my suggestion is to do stuff like that. Or suggestion is to do stuff like that. Or suggestion is to do stuff like that. Or if you noticed it talking to you from a if you noticed it talking to you from a if you noticed it talking to you from a barbell deadlift, I'm going to have you barbell deadlift, I'm going to have you barbell deadlift, I'm going to have you do single leg deadlifts instead of doing do single leg deadlifts instead of doing do single leg deadlifts instead of doing a barbell deadlift. Like, so if you a barbell deadlift. Like, so if you a barbell deadlift. Like, so if you notice it, uh, do that instead of kind notice it, uh, do that instead of kind notice it, uh, do that instead of kind of just pushing through it or going of just pushing through it or going of just pushing through it or going like, "Oh, it's not as bad as it was like, "Oh, it's not as bad as it was like, "Oh, it's not as bad as it was last time." Take that sign of it's still last time." Take that sign of it's still last time." Take that sign of it's still talking to me and I still have a bit of talking to me and I still have a bit of talking to me and I still have a bit of an imbalance and instability there. We an imbalance and instability there. We an imbalance and instability there. We can get stronger, get better there, and can get stronger, get better there, and can get stronger, get better there, and stick with that. So, you could totally stick with that. So, you could totally stick with that. So, you could totally keep moving through different MAPS keep moving through different MAPS keep moving through different MAPS programs, but just keep that in the back programs, but just keep that in the back programs, but just keep that in the back of your head when you get to those of your head when you get to those of your head when you get to those movements and your body talks to you. movements and your body talks to you. movements and your body talks to you. And this is exactly how I move through And this is exactly how I move through And this is exactly how I move through my life all the time is I'm moving in my life all the time is I'm moving in my life all the time is I'm moving in and out of our different types of and out of our different types of and out of our different types of programs. But if I feel something in my programs. But if I feel something in my programs. But if I feel something in my body that he goes, "Oh, I probably body that he goes, "Oh, I probably body that he goes, "Oh, I probably should do single leg there because I should do single leg there because I should do single leg there because I don't it doesn't feel right to go do don't it doesn't feel right to go do don't it doesn't feel right to go do heavy loaded back." It's totally okay, heavy loaded back." It's totally okay, heavy loaded back." It's totally okay, too. too. too. >> Yeah, Jenna, I'll say um um it's >> Yeah, Jenna, I'll say um um it's >> Yeah, Jenna, I'll say um um it's expected. First off, great job. And it expected. First off, great job. And it expected. First off, great job. And it looks like we we nailed the uh we hit looks like we we nailed the uh we hit looks like we we nailed the uh we hit the nail on the head uh for what the the nail on the head uh for what the the nail on the head uh for what the issue was. Uh the little flare-ups are I issue was. Uh the little flare-ups are I issue was. Uh the little flare-ups are I think she froze. think she froze. think she froze. >> Can you guys hear me? >> Can you guys hear me? >> Can you guys hear me? >> Yeah, there you are. Okay. >> Yeah, there you are. Okay. >> Yeah, there you are. Okay. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> I'll start over. Sorry. >> I'll start over. Sorry. >> I'll start over. Sorry. >> No worries. I'll start over. >> No worries. I'll start over. >> No worries. I'll start over. >> Um Okay. So, uh it sounds like what we >> Um Okay. So, uh it sounds like what we >> Um Okay. So, uh it sounds like what we we really hit the nail on the head with we really hit the nail on the head with we really hit the nail on the head with our recommendation. And so that's I our recommendation. And so that's I our recommendation. And so that's I would stay there with what you're doing. would stay there with what you're doing. would stay there with what you're doing. The flare-ups are expected because it's The flare-ups are expected because it's The flare-ups are expected because it's only been what is it 60 days? Okay. only been what is it 60 days? Okay. only been what is it 60 days? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, here's what happens when you have >> So, here's what happens when you have >> So, here's what happens when you have pain and correctional exercise addresses pain and correctional exercise addresses pain and correctional exercise addresses the root cause of the pain. the root cause of the pain. the root cause of the pain. >> The first thing that happens is you get >> The first thing that happens is you get >> The first thing that happens is you get strong enough to where the pain goes strong enough to where the pain goes strong enough to where the pain goes away, but you're still not strong enough away, but you're still not strong enough away, but you're still not strong enough to be where you should be. That takes a to be where you should be. That takes a to be where you should be. That takes a little while. little while. little while. >> It's probably going to take you another >> It's probably going to take you another >> It's probably going to take you another 60 to 90 days. 60 to 90 days. 60 to 90 days. >> Pattern. Yeah. That you got to >> Pattern. Yeah. That you got to >> Pattern. Yeah. That you got to eliminate. eliminate. eliminate. >> Okay. So, so you still got to be >> Okay. So, so you still got to be >> Okay. So, so you still got to be careful. you still got to be careful. careful. you still got to be careful. careful. you still got to be careful. Even though there's no pain, it's not as Even though there's no pain, it's not as Even though there's no pain, it's not as strong as it needs to be uh before you strong as it needs to be uh before you strong as it needs to be uh before you can just go back into doing everything can just go back into doing everything can just go back into doing everything without ever experiencing a flare up. without ever experiencing a flare up. without ever experiencing a flare up. Okay, so we're only 60 days in. Okay, so we're only 60 days in. Okay, so we're only 60 days in. >> It's probably going to take another 60 >> It's probably going to take another 60 >> It's probably going to take another 60 to 90 days of that kind of dedicated to 90 days of that kind of dedicated to 90 days of that kind of dedicated work before you're like, uh, you know, work before you're like, uh, you know, work before you're like, uh, you know, you're in the clear type of deal. So, you're in the clear type of deal. So, you're in the clear type of deal. So, just consider that as you continue to do just consider that as you continue to do just consider that as you continue to do this. programwise, this. programwise, this. programwise, uh, Matt, powerlift or strong is uh, Matt, powerlift or strong is uh, Matt, powerlift or strong is perfectly fine, but, uh, because of the perfectly fine, but, uh, because of the perfectly fine, but, uh, because of the hip flexor thing, I'd probably lean more hip flexor thing, I'd probably lean more hip flexor thing, I'd probably lean more towards strong, uh, than powerlift towards strong, uh, than powerlift towards strong, uh, than powerlift because powerlift is so heavy, you know, because powerlift is so heavy, you know, because powerlift is so heavy, you know, squat focused and I know that can kind squat focused and I know that can kind squat focused and I know that can kind of of of >> annoy your hip flexor a little bit. >> annoy your hip flexor a little bit. >> annoy your hip flexor a little bit. >> Um, so we can point you in that >> Um, so we can point you in that >> Um, so we can point you in that direction and I think that would be direction and I think that would be direction and I think that would be great. great. great. >> Okay. Okay, cool. Um, I did, um, in my >> Okay. Okay, cool. Um, I did, um, in my >> Okay. Okay, cool. Um, I did, um, in my follow-up email include some recent body follow-up email include some recent body follow-up email include some recent body scans too that I did at the Anytime scans too that I did at the Anytime scans too that I did at the Anytime Fitness. Um, and I noticed that it Fitness. Um, and I noticed that it Fitness. Um, and I noticed that it looked like things are kind of more looked like things are kind of more looked like things are kind of more balanced as far as like the muscle balanced as far as like the muscle balanced as far as like the muscle tissue left to right tissue left to right tissue left to right >> than before. So, I feel like that's kind >> than before. So, I feel like that's kind >> than before. So, I feel like that's kind of reassuring. It's been a long time of reassuring. It's been a long time of reassuring. It's been a long time since I've done one of those scans. It since I've done one of those scans. It since I've done one of those scans. It was February 2024 since I did one. So, was February 2024 since I did one. So, was February 2024 since I did one. So, it's been a while. Um, but I think it's been a while. Um, but I think it's been a while. Um, but I think that's also kind of reassuring that that's also kind of reassuring that that's also kind of reassuring that things seem to be relatively balanced as things seem to be relatively balanced as things seem to be relatively balanced as far as far as far as >> That's right. This is what we >> That's right. This is what we >> That's right. This is what we consistently see with people that go consistently see with people that go consistently see with people that go through symmetry. And you went through through symmetry. And you went through through symmetry. And you went through you're going through symmetry for a you're going through symmetry for a you're going through symmetry for a second time, right? second time, right? second time, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. No, that's it's great. >> Yeah. No, that's it's great. >> Yeah. No, that's it's great. >> Yeah. It's super consistent when we see >> Yeah. It's super consistent when we see >> Yeah. It's super consistent when we see people do. It's actually one of the people do. It's actually one of the people do. It's actually one of the coolest things is that when we have coolest things is that when we have coolest things is that when we have those DEXA scans that show left to those DEXA scans that show left to those DEXA scans that show left to right, right, right, >> it's one of our favorite things is >> it's one of our favorite things is >> it's one of our favorite things is having a client go through that and they having a client go through that and they having a client go through that and they notice the balancing of that just from notice the balancing of that just from notice the balancing of that just from running that program one time. And running that program one time. And running that program one time. And you've run it twice. So, it's definitely you've run it twice. So, it's definitely you've run it twice. So, it's definitely from that. from that. from that. Okay. Very cool. Great job. Okay. Very cool. Great job. Okay. Very cool. Great job. >> I do have a quick followup if you guys >> I do have a quick followup if you guys >> I do have a quick followup if you guys have extra minute or two. Um, so I'm have extra minute or two. Um, so I'm have extra minute or two. Um, so I'm I've been taking a GLP1 for the past few I've been taking a GLP1 for the past few I've been taking a GLP1 for the past few months. Just kind of something that I've months. Just kind of something that I've months. Just kind of something that I've been thinking about for a couple of been thinking about for a couple of been thinking about for a couple of years and I finally was just like I had years and I finally was just like I had years and I finally was just like I had an opportunity to try it out. Um, and an opportunity to try it out. Um, and an opportunity to try it out. Um, and I've been on a really really low dose. I've been on a really really low dose. I've been on a really really low dose. um just kind of um just kind of um just kind of getting a feel for it. I didn't want to getting a feel for it. I didn't want to getting a feel for it. I didn't want to have any issues with not being able to have any issues with not being able to have any issues with not being able to eat enough or losing muscle. And I I eat enough or losing muscle. And I I eat enough or losing muscle. And I I think I've actually done a really good think I've actually done a really good think I've actually done a really good job of managing it. I've feel like I'm job of managing it. I've feel like I'm job of managing it. I've feel like I'm actually stronger now than I was before. actually stronger now than I was before. actually stronger now than I was before. And I'm my weight hasn't fluctuated that And I'm my weight hasn't fluctuated that And I'm my weight hasn't fluctuated that much um from when I started it, but I'm much um from when I started it, but I'm much um from when I started it, but I'm getting off of it. I'll probably be getting off of it. I'll probably be getting off of it. I'll probably be taking my last dose here in a couple of taking my last dose here in a couple of taking my last dose here in a couple of weeks. And is there anything that I weeks. And is there anything that I weeks. And is there anything that I should consider or be aware of that should consider or be aware of that should consider or be aware of that might be a challenge once I'm kind of might be a challenge once I'm kind of might be a challenge once I'm kind of off of it? off of it? off of it? >> No, but let me let's just back up for a >> No, but let me let's just back up for a >> No, but let me let's just back up for a second. Um, so I'm assuming you you second. Um, so I'm assuming you you second. Um, so I'm assuming you you didn't get this from a doctor, right? didn't get this from a doctor, right? didn't get this from a doctor, right? You went online and bought it yourself. You went online and bought it yourself. You went online and bought it yourself. >> Um, kind of a gray area. >> Um, kind of a gray area. >> Um, kind of a gray area. >> I figure because I don't think a doctor >> I figure because I don't think a doctor >> I figure because I don't think a doctor would have prescribed a GLP to you. Uh, would have prescribed a GLP to you. Uh, would have prescribed a GLP to you. Uh, yeah. Because you're not um a patient yeah. Because you're not um a patient yeah. Because you're not um a patient that would that would need a GLP. What that would that would need a GLP. What that would that would need a GLP. What was the and just be honest like what was was the and just be honest like what was was the and just be honest like what was the why use it? What was the the the why use it? What was the the the why use it? What was the the motivation behind it? motivation behind it? motivation behind it? >> So the two biggest things that were my >> So the two biggest things that were my >> So the two biggest things that were my motivation that I really wanted to try motivation that I really wanted to try motivation that I really wanted to try it was um you had mentioned before that it was um you had mentioned before that it was um you had mentioned before that it was helped with inflammation and I've it was helped with inflammation and I've it was helped with inflammation and I've had some gut issues in the that I've had some gut issues in the that I've had some gut issues in the that I've been dealing with in the past. It's been dealing with in the past. It's been dealing with in the past. It's gotten better. Like uh two years ago I gotten better. Like uh two years ago I gotten better. Like uh two years ago I want to say I worked with Dr. Crawl and want to say I worked with Dr. Crawl and want to say I worked with Dr. Crawl and I did some of their test staying and I did some of their test staying and I did some of their test staying and went through their CBO protocol and that went through their CBO protocol and that went through their CBO protocol and that really kind of helped things quite a really kind of helped things quite a really kind of helped things quite a bit, but I was still kind of dealing bit, but I was still kind of dealing bit, but I was still kind of dealing with some lingering issues and I think with some lingering issues and I think with some lingering issues and I think I've kind of parsed it out a little bit. I've kind of parsed it out a little bit. I've kind of parsed it out a little bit. Um I know I'm like sensitive to gluten Um I know I'm like sensitive to gluten Um I know I'm like sensitive to gluten so I typically stay away from that. so I typically stay away from that. so I typically stay away from that. Definitely pasta is a big one too that Definitely pasta is a big one too that Definitely pasta is a big one too that bothers me. Um and then the other thing bothers me. Um and then the other thing bothers me. Um and then the other thing was just like food noise. I feel like was just like food noise. I feel like was just like food noise. I feel like that's been kind of something that has that's been kind of something that has that's been kind of something that has been a big challenge for me where just been a big challenge for me where just been a big challenge for me where just like before like before like before I was constantly thinking about my next I was constantly thinking about my next I was constantly thinking about my next meal or like it was just like constant meal or like it was just like constant meal or like it was just like constant like I'm eating but I'm thinking about like I'm eating but I'm thinking about like I'm eating but I'm thinking about like what I'm going to have for a snack like what I'm going to have for a snack like what I'm going to have for a snack after that type of thing. And I feel after that type of thing. And I feel after that type of thing. And I feel like trying it like trying it like trying it was giving myself an opportunity to like was giving myself an opportunity to like was giving myself an opportunity to like break that cycle and hopefully once I break that cycle and hopefully once I break that cycle and hopefully once I come off of it have like a little bit of come off of it have like a little bit of come off of it have like a little bit of a better grasp on that. a better grasp on that. a better grasp on that. >> And I that's a little bit of a fear is >> And I that's a little bit of a fear is >> And I that's a little bit of a fear is you know when I come off of it you know when I come off of it you know when I come off of it >> is that food noise going to be like >> is that food noise going to be like >> is that food noise going to be like glaring glaring glaring >> okay >> okay >> okay >> when I'm not taking it anymore. >> when I'm not taking it anymore. >> when I'm not taking it anymore. >> No. But here's there's two couple >> No. But here's there's two couple >> No. But here's there's two couple things. So here's a deal with gut issues things. So here's a deal with gut issues things. So here's a deal with gut issues and GLPs. The kind of gut issues that and GLPs. The kind of gut issues that and GLPs. The kind of gut issues that get better with GLPS have to do with get better with GLPS have to do with get better with GLPS have to do with people who have really fast motility. So people who have really fast motility. So people who have really fast motility. So people who tend towards gut issues that people who tend towards gut issues that people who tend towards gut issues that cause diarrhea. Most women are the cause diarrhea. Most women are the cause diarrhea. Most women are the opposite. Most women's gut issues are opposite. Most women's gut issues are opposite. Most women's gut issues are due to slow motility. And so gut issues due to slow motility. And so gut issues due to slow motility. And so gut issues tend to get worse. In fact, one of the tend to get worse. In fact, one of the tend to get worse. In fact, one of the side effects, the most common side side effects, the most common side side effects, the most common side effects of GLP is worse gut issues. So, effects of GLP is worse gut issues. So, effects of GLP is worse gut issues. So, I'm the rare kind of person who actually I'm the rare kind of person who actually I'm the rare kind of person who actually gets better with a GLP because I have gets better with a GLP because I have gets better with a GLP because I have too fast motility, but that's almost too fast motility, but that's almost too fast motility, but that's almost never the case, especially if you have never the case, especially if you have never the case, especially if you have SIBO because motility tends to be slow. SIBO because motility tends to be slow. SIBO because motility tends to be slow. So, that that's first one. So, that that's first one. So, that that's first one. >> The second one, do you have a history of >> The second one, do you have a history of >> The second one, do you have a history of like big swings in weight? Like, were like big swings in weight? Like, were like big swings in weight? Like, were you really obese at one point and then you really obese at one point and then you really obese at one point and then lost weight or were you is that not lost weight or were you is that not lost weight or were you is that not really an issue for you? really an issue for you? really an issue for you? >> I've been definitely more overweight. >> I've been definitely more overweight. >> I've been definitely more overweight. Um, Um, Um, I would say I think my heaviest I I was I would say I think my heaviest I I was I would say I think my heaviest I I was at was like 210 and that's like not at was like 210 and that's like not at was like 210 and that's like not including pregnancy. Like pregnancy I including pregnancy. Like pregnancy I including pregnancy. Like pregnancy I got up to like 240 both times, but it got up to like 240 both times, but it got up to like 240 both times, but it was like gone like that. was like gone like that. was like gone like that. >> Um, right now I'm sitting at 187. So >> Um, right now I'm sitting at 187. So >> Um, right now I'm sitting at 187. So I've definitely been heavier than I am I've definitely been heavier than I am I've definitely been heavier than I am now. But I would say like now. But I would say like now. But I would say like >> what you're So I'll pause right there. >> what you're So I'll pause right there. >> what you're So I'll pause right there. What you're talking what you're What you're talking what you're What you're talking what you're mentioning or what you're referring to mentioning or what you're referring to mentioning or what you're referring to as food noise is just being normal. as food noise is just being normal. as food noise is just being normal. that you're just you're just being that you're just you're just being that you're just you're just being normal and maybe eating too little to normal and maybe eating too little to normal and maybe eating too little to fuel like your strength gains and stuff. fuel like your strength gains and stuff. fuel like your strength gains and stuff. And so I just want to caution you. And so I just want to caution you. And so I just want to caution you. >> I think I have an issue with eating too >> I think I have an issue with eating too >> I think I have an issue with eating too little. I think it's actually kind of I little. I think it's actually kind of I little. I think it's actually kind of I borderline where I feel like I'm borderline where I feel like I'm borderline where I feel like I'm sometimes maybe eating too much and I sometimes maybe eating too much and I sometimes maybe eating too much and I have a hard time not gaining fat. So, so have a hard time not gaining fat. So, so have a hard time not gaining fat. So, so food noise, when someone says food food noise, when someone says food food noise, when someone says food noise, when I hear someone say that, noise, when I hear someone say that, noise, when I hear someone say that, depending on the person, what that depending on the person, what that depending on the person, what that typically means is, okay, let's eat more typically means is, okay, let's eat more typically means is, okay, let's eat more of whole natural foods, not let's eat uh of whole natural foods, not let's eat uh of whole natural foods, not let's eat uh like snacks or um you know, hyper like snacks or um you know, hyper like snacks or um you know, hyper palatable processed foods. Okay. palatable processed foods. Okay. palatable processed foods. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um so, that would be the direction I >> Um so, that would be the direction I >> Um so, that would be the direction I would point to I would point you in. But would point to I would point you in. But would point to I would point you in. But I don't think um the food noise that I don't think um the food noise that I don't think um the food noise that you're experiencing that people who go you're experiencing that people who go you're experiencing that people who go on to GLP that need a GLP experience, I on to GLP that need a GLP experience, I on to GLP that need a GLP experience, I don't think they're they're one and the don't think they're they're one and the don't think they're they're one and the same. What did your what did your uh same. What did your what did your uh same. What did your what did your uh what did your scan come back body fat what did your scan come back body fat what did your scan come back body fat percentage wise where you at right now? percentage wise where you at right now? percentage wise where you at right now? >> Uh it said 25.7. >> Uh it said 25.7. >> Uh it said 25.7. >> Yeah, you're at a good you have a lot of >> Yeah, you're at a good you have a lot of >> Yeah, you're at a good you have a lot of muscle. I guess I just Doug just now muscle. I guess I just Doug just now muscle. I guess I just Doug just now pulled up your your photos right now. pulled up your your photos right now. pulled up your your photos right now. I'm looking at you right now. So you I'm looking at you right now. So you I'm looking at you right now. So you have you have good muscle mass. have you have good muscle mass. have you have good muscle mass. >> Yeah. And and if you're on a low dose, >> Yeah. And and if you're on a low dose, >> Yeah. And and if you're on a low dose, if you're micro doing uh GLP, you're if you're micro doing uh GLP, you're if you're micro doing uh GLP, you're probably not going to notice much when probably not going to notice much when probably not going to notice much when you come off. you come off. you come off. >> Where are where are your calories? >> Where are where are your calories? >> Where are where are your calories? Uh, I haven't tracked recently, but if I Uh, I haven't tracked recently, but if I Uh, I haven't tracked recently, but if I had to guess right now, I'm probably had to guess right now, I'm probably had to guess right now, I'm probably sitting at between 1,800 to 2,000 on the sitting at between 1,800 to 2,000 on the sitting at between 1,800 to 2,000 on the GLP. GLP. GLP. >> Your food noise is because you're >> Your food noise is because you're >> Your food noise is because you're hungry, and you should be. hungry, and you should be. hungry, and you should be. >> I was my calories were definitely higher >> I was my calories were definitely higher >> I was my calories were definitely higher prior to taking the GLP one. So, I've prior to taking the GLP one. So, I've prior to taking the GLP one. So, I've [clears throat] definitely decreased a [clears throat] definitely decreased a [clears throat] definitely decreased a bit. bit. bit. >> Well, they they should be. You're you're >> Well, they they should be. You're you're >> Well, they they should be. You're you're you have you have a you have a lot of you have you have a you have a lot of you have you have a you have a lot of muscle. Yeah. Unless you're a extremely muscle. Yeah. Unless you're a extremely muscle. Yeah. Unless you're a extremely sedentary person, uh, then I would want sedentary person, uh, then I would want sedentary person, uh, then I would want you way higher in calories. you way higher in calories. you way higher in calories. >> There's a big difference. >> There's a big difference. >> There's a big difference. >> You should be mid to high 2000s. >> You should be mid to high 2000s. >> You should be mid to high 2000s. >> And and if you I mean, if you stick to >> And and if you I mean, if you stick to >> And and if you I mean, if you stick to whole natural foods, then you're going whole natural foods, then you're going whole natural foods, then you're going to eat pretty appropriately, unless we to eat pretty appropriately, unless we to eat pretty appropriately, unless we have some a past of uh like have some a past of uh like have some a past of uh like dysfunctional eating, in which case dysfunctional eating, in which case dysfunctional eating, in which case sometimes those signals are off. Uh, but sometimes those signals are off. Uh, but sometimes those signals are off. Uh, but your weight the weight fluctuation you your weight the weight fluctuation you your weight the weight fluctuation you gave me is not huge. gave me is not huge. gave me is not huge. >> Uh, you you would stick to whole natural >> Uh, you you would stick to whole natural >> Uh, you you would stick to whole natural food. So if you're like, "Oo, I'm food. So if you're like, "Oo, I'm food. So if you're like, "Oo, I'm hungry." Then you then you go to, you hungry." Then you then you go to, you hungry." Then you then you go to, you know, more of what you had for dinner or know, more of what you had for dinner or know, more of what you had for dinner or more of what you meal prepped. more of what you meal prepped. more of what you meal prepped. >> I feel like I've definitely made a lot >> I feel like I've definitely made a lot >> I feel like I've definitely made a lot of strides. Like I do eat a like I would of strides. Like I do eat a like I would of strides. Like I do eat a like I would say 85% whole natural foods. Like I eat say 85% whole natural foods. Like I eat say 85% whole natural foods. Like I eat a good amount of protein. I don't eat a a good amount of protein. I don't eat a a good amount of protein. I don't eat a lot of junk food or sweets and stuff lot of junk food or sweets and stuff lot of junk food or sweets and stuff like that. So think I'm pretty good like that. So think I'm pretty good like that. So think I'm pretty good there. And I think I'm actually really there. And I think I'm actually really there. And I think I'm actually really reassured at how the trajectory is going reassured at how the trajectory is going reassured at how the trajectory is going to go with me coming off the GLP and to go with me coming off the GLP and to go with me coming off the GLP and then in turn getting back into some of then in turn getting back into some of then in turn getting back into some of those heavier lifting or a different those heavier lifting or a different those heavier lifting or a different program that hopefully once my appetite program that hopefully once my appetite program that hopefully once my appetite kind of starts gradually increasing that kind of starts gradually increasing that kind of starts gradually increasing that it's just going to go towards building it's just going to go towards building it's just going to go towards building more muscle. more muscle. more muscle. >> Yeah, that's what happen. >> Yeah, that's what happen. >> Yeah, that's what happen. >> Yeah, that's what that's what you got to >> Yeah, that's what that's what you got to >> Yeah, that's what that's what you got to focus on. focus on. focus on. >> Yeah, that's what'll happen. >> Yeah, that's what'll happen. >> Yeah, that's what'll happen. >> Yeah, you're good. And and just again >> Yeah, you're good. And and just again >> Yeah, you're good. And and just again I'm going caution you the they call it a I'm going caution you the they call it a I'm going caution you the they call it a gray market because gray market because gray market because >> you don't >> you don't >> you don't >> Well, no. So I didn't get it on the gray >> Well, no. So I didn't get it on the gray >> Well, no. So I didn't get it on the gray market. It was actually prescribed but market. It was actually prescribed but market. It was actually prescribed but not to myself. I'll say that. not to myself. I'll say that. not to myself. I'll say that. >> Oh, okay. [laughter] Okay. Gangster >> Oh, okay. [laughter] Okay. Gangster >> Oh, okay. [laughter] Okay. Gangster style. All right. That's all right. I style. All right. That's all right. I style. All right. That's all right. I mean it's not all right, but it's better mean it's not all right, but it's better mean it's not all right, but it's better than what I thought. [laughter] than what I thought. [laughter] than what I thought. [laughter] >> We'll work with it. >> We'll work with it. >> We'll work with it. >> Yeah. But I don't think you're going to >> Yeah. But I don't think you're going to >> Yeah. But I don't think you're going to notice the screen. notice the screen. notice the screen. >> But you don't you're but also >> But you don't you're but also >> But you don't you're but also don't you're not somebody who needs don't you're not somebody who needs don't you're not somebody who needs this. Like you're um this. Like you're um this. Like you're um >> and I knew you guys would say that. Of >> and I knew you guys would say that. Of >> and I knew you guys would say that. Of course you knew we were going to say course you knew we were going to say course you knew we were going to say that. I mean you I you need you just that. I mean you I you need you just that. I mean you I you need you just more you need more calories and I would more you need more calories and I would more you need more calories and I would that's I I would push you if you're that's I I would push you if you're that's I I would push you if you're telling me that Adam I'm still thinking telling me that Adam I'm still thinking telling me that Adam I'm still thinking about food or I'm still snacking. I'd be about food or I'm still snacking. I'd be about food or I'm still snacking. I'd be say oh it's cuz we're too low calories. say oh it's cuz we're too low calories. say oh it's cuz we're too low calories. >> If you lean into that map strong and get >> If you lean into that map strong and get >> If you lean into that map strong and get strong and get your lift strong and when strong and get your lift strong and when strong and get your lift strong and when you're hungry eat but just make good you're hungry eat but just make good you're hungry eat but just make good food choices. You're going to you're food choices. You're going to you're food choices. You're going to you're going to you're going to continue to going to you're going to continue to going to you're going to continue to build muscle. build muscle. build muscle. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yeah. And I don't care about the scale >> Yeah. And I don't care about the scale >> Yeah. And I don't care about the scale right now. Don't don't don't look at right now. Don't don't don't look at right now. Don't don't don't look at that. Don't pay attention to that. Just that. Don't pay attention to that. Just that. Don't pay attention to that. Just keep going the direction. And you're keep going the direction. And you're keep going the direction. And you're already at a good body fat percentage. I already at a good body fat percentage. I already at a good body fat percentage. I mean, you're you're you're in a nice mean, you're you're you're in a nice mean, you're you're you're in a nice body fat percent. body fat percent. body fat percent. >> Yeah. If you actually just focus on >> Yeah. If you actually just focus on >> Yeah. If you actually just focus on building, you you'll probably get a building, you you'll probably get a building, you you'll probably get a little leaner even. little leaner even. little leaner even. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You will. You will. That's it. >> You will. You will. That's it. >> You will. You will. That's it. >> Yep. Yeah. Good. We'll send you map >> Yep. Yeah. Good. We'll send you map >> Yep. Yeah. Good. We'll send you map strong if you don't have that. Okay. strong if you don't have that. Okay. strong if you don't have that. Okay. >> I do. I do have it. I have strong and >> I do. I do have it. I have strong and >> I do. I do have it. I have strong and powerlift. powerlift. powerlift. >> Okay. Do strong. Do strong. >> Okay. Do strong. Do strong. >> Okay. Do strong. Do strong. >> Yeah. Have you ever thought Let me pause >> Yeah. Have you ever thought Let me pause >> Yeah. Have you ever thought Let me pause you. Have you ever thought about working you. Have you ever thought about working you. Have you ever thought about working with one of our coaches, Jenna? You have with one of our coaches, Jenna? You have with one of our coaches, Jenna? You have all of our programs. You'd be such a all of our programs. You'd be such a all of our programs. You'd be such a good candidate. good candidate. good candidate. >> Um, so I I met with um I believe it's >> Um, so I I met with um I believe it's >> Um, so I I met with um I believe it's Cole. Yes, that is great. Cole. Yes, that is great. Cole. Yes, that is great. >> Back in you guys were running a special >> Back in you guys were running a special >> Back in you guys were running a special at the end of last year for reverse at the end of last year for reverse at the end of last year for reverse dieting and I actually met with him at dieting and I actually met with him at dieting and I actually met with him at the end of last year and kind of just the end of last year and kind of just the end of last year and kind of just got a bit of a plan and I started on got a bit of a plan and I started on got a bit of a plan and I started on that plan but then I started the GLP but that plan but then I started the GLP but that plan but then I started the GLP but I told him right now I probably wouldn't I told him right now I probably wouldn't I told him right now I probably wouldn't do it just because um last year I do it just because um last year I do it just because um last year I switched to working part-time just so I switched to working part-time just so I switched to working part-time just so I could spend more time with my kids for a could spend more time with my kids for a could spend more time with my kids for a while. So maybe in the future I'd be while. So maybe in the future I'd be while. So maybe in the future I'd be interested in that. Just probably not interested in that. Just probably not interested in that. Just probably not right now. right now. right now. >> Well, go follow the Go follow the plan >> Well, go follow the Go follow the plan >> Well, go follow the Go follow the plan though all the way through. though all the way through. though all the way through. >> Do strong and follow the plan. So if you >> Do strong and follow the plan. So if you >> Do strong and follow the plan. So if you already got the plan that they laid out already got the plan that they laid out already got the plan that they laid out for you, follow the plan and run strong. for you, follow the plan and run strong. for you, follow the plan and run strong. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And run it through. >> And run it through. >> And run it through. >> You'll love it. >> You'll love it. >> You'll love it. >> No GLP1. >> No GLP1. >> No GLP1. >> All right. I'm looking forward to it. >> All right. I'm looking forward to it. >> All right. I'm looking forward to it. >> All right, Jenna. >> All right, Jenna. >> All right, Jenna. >> Thank you, Jenna. >> Thank you, Jenna. >> Thank you, Jenna. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Byebye. >> Byebye. >> Byebye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye. >> You You remember when I said probably >> You You remember when I said probably >> You You remember when I said probably three out of four Americans are going to three out of four Americans are going to three out of four Americans are going to be on a GOP? be on a GOP? be on a GOP? >> Yeah. I definitely [snorts] wouldn't >> Yeah. I definitely [snorts] wouldn't >> Yeah. I definitely [snorts] wouldn't argue back tomorrow. argue back tomorrow. argue back tomorrow. >> It's just you're just going to have >> It's just you're just going to have >> It's just you're just going to have people using them. people using them. people using them. >> Oh, it's everybody, bro. And you know >> Oh, it's everybody, bro. And you know >> Oh, it's everybody, bro. And you know what happens? Here's the deal. It's what happens? Here's the deal. It's what happens? Here's the deal. It's beyond the obese now. beyond the obese now. beyond the obese now. >> And the common the terminology that >> And the common the terminology that >> And the common the terminology that people are using is now getting twisted people are using is now getting twisted people are using is now getting twisted and distorted to mean something else. and distorted to mean something else. and distorted to mean something else. Like food noise. What is food noise? Like food noise. What is food noise? Like food noise. What is food noise? Thinking about food. No, that's that's Thinking about food. No, that's that's Thinking about food. No, that's that's normal. normal. normal. >> It's get rid of your hunger, which is >> It's get rid of your hunger, which is >> It's get rid of your hunger, which is not not not >> the food noise that that when when we're >> the food noise that that when when we're >> the food noise that that when when we're when you're talking about someone who's when you're talking about someone who's when you're talking about someone who's really struggling with obesity, who's really struggling with obesity, who's really struggling with obesity, who's gone on and off, who's a candidate for a gone on and off, who's a candidate for a gone on and off, who's a candidate for a GLP, is doing it the right way. It's GLP, is doing it the right way. It's GLP, is doing it the right way. It's actually food obsession is what they actually food obsession is what they actually food obsession is what they should call it. That's what they mean by should call it. That's what they mean by should call it. That's what they mean by food noise. It's this constant food noise. It's this constant food noise. It's this constant >> thought of that's why it's called noise >> thought of that's why it's called noise >> thought of that's why it's called noise is because it's always in the is because it's always in the is because it's always in the background. It's not man after I eat I background. It's not man after I eat I background. It's not man after I eat I still want a little dessert or you know still want a little dessert or you know still want a little dessert or you know late at night I so I want to get rid of late at night I so I want to get rid of late at night I so I want to get rid of that. That's not food noise. That's that. That's not food noise. That's that. That's not food noise. That's normal. normal. normal. >> Well, especially when it's when you're >> Well, especially when it's when you're >> Well, especially when it's when you're eating 1,800 calories and you got that eating 1,800 calories and you got that eating 1,800 calories and you got that much muscle mass on you. much muscle mass on you. much muscle mass on you. >> We got to talk more about this. >> We got to talk more about this. >> We got to talk more about this. >> That's your That's your body saying you >> That's your That's your body saying you >> That's your That's your body saying you need more food. Give me more food. need more food. Give me more food. need more food. Give me more food. You're strength training me and we have You're strength training me and we have You're strength training me and we have all this muscle. I'm going to lose this all this muscle. I'm going to lose this all this muscle. I'm going to lose this muscle if you don't feed it. muscle if you don't feed it. muscle if you don't feed it. >> Yeah. That's what that is. It's a good >> Yeah. That's what that is. It's a good >> Yeah. That's what that is. It's a good That's a good signal. That's a good signal. That's a good signal. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. >> All right. I know you like that episode. If you did, check this one out. If you did, check this one out. If you did, check this one out. Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit Shredded, ripped, defined, singledigit body fat. body fat. body fat. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about >> You want to get there? Let's talk about it. it. it. >> Difficult. And [music] is it worth it? >> Difficult. And [music] is it worth it? >> Difficult. And [music] is it worth it? That's a follow-up question. That's a follow-up question. That's a follow-up question. >> Yeah. First off, we got to say, okay, so >> Yeah. First off, we got to say, okay, so >> Yeah. First off, we got to say, okay, so singledigit body fat, obviously body fat singledigit body fat, obviously body fat singledigit body fat, obviously body fat percentages, [music] uh, that could be percentages, [music] uh, that could be percentages, [music] uh, that could be represented by one digit like 3%, 5%, represented by one digit like 3%, 5%, represented by one digit like 3%, 5%, 6%, 9%. That's uh rip for men. For 6%, 9%. That's uh rip for men. For 6%, 9%. That's uh rip for men. For women, women, women, >> add 10%. >> add 10%. >> add 10%. >> Yeah. Don't. Yeah. Exactly.