Kendall Jenner: "This Trick Stopped My Negative Self-Talk" (You Can Do It Too)

Key Takeaway

Try Kendall Jenner’s mirror reset for negative self-talk: place a childhood photo of yourself on your bathroom mirror. Whenever you catch yourself criticizing your appearance, choices, or worth, look at that photo and ask whether you would speak that way to that child. Replace the criticism with one direct affirmation—such as “She’s great, and I love her.” This creates a practical interruption between an automatic negative thought and a kinder response.

Episode Overview

Kendall Jenner joins Jay Shetty to discuss protecting mental health amid public scrutiny, burnout, comparison, and social-media negativity. She shares how boundaries, solitude, affirmations, therapy, and reconnecting with what she loves have helped her build a more internally grounded life.

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Yeah, I'm not just saying that, I think I actually manifested that. That's when I saw you at Simi and Haze's. It was a few months ago, then a few weeks ago, I was chatting with my girlfriend about social media at random. We were talking about all sorts of things, what I would like to represent, a new chapter for me, etc. And she said to me, " Who would you really like to talk to or what ?" And I said, "It would be so cool to talk to Jay." And she told me, " That would be really cool." And then we said to each other: "That was kind of it, and then you hit me and I said to myself : "No way.

It's hitting me right now . "So I thought to myself: " Absolutely. That's perfect. It's the universe that makes things happen at the right time. "Because it makes me so happy because it was the exact opposite. So, I've always had people I'd love to sit down with. And every time I saw you do something about mental health and Vogue or any other segment you did, I was like, 'She's incredible.' It's incredible the way you talked about it, and when you posted about it, I was like, ' Oh, this is amazing.' To see you talk about it so openly and with so much vulnerability.

And so, I've always wanted to do that. And then, but our paths never really crossed. And so, I'm always kind of like, and I don't like asking friends of friends when I've never met someone. And so, I was like, that day, I had to take a deep breath and think, 'I'm just going to ask her myself.' No, it's easier when I ask her. And I know Kristy, so Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought it was nicer when I talked to my team about it. It was so much nicer when there's a personal connection.

Definitely. And when someone feels genuinely comfortable, rather than it being a PR thing. No, it was so perfect. Looking back , I think it was just me trusting the universe and not pushing anything, and I knew it would happen when it was meant to happen. And it literally did. Yeah. You felt it too. We both understood. That means you loved me. Yeah. And I hope this is the beginning of a longer, more genuine relationship. Yeah, off-camera too. I love that, because, I think, I don't know, I admire people like you.

I admire, you know, the Michael Pollans, Michael Singers, and Wim Hofs of the world, and I feel like you fall into that category for me, just people who are, you know, because I know a little bit about your story. I'd like to know more, which would be really cool. Actually, I know we're obviously not here for that, but for me, I'd like to know more about your story. I know you've been through some pretty tough experiences, and I think that's so cool. I'm so intrigued by people who have so much curiosity, determination, and patience.

It takes so much patience to be like you or like any of those people I just mentioned. It's so cool to me, and I just wish—I want it for myself , but I'm working on it. That curiosity, too. You're curious in your own way, too. Yeah. It's just, you know, that level of patience and determination, like I said, is like a gift. It's really an amazing gift, and like I said, I'm working on it all the time, and it's my goal in life , I guess.

Well, I think I feel the same way about you, and by the way, I love all the people you just mentioned. So I feel very honored to be part of that group of people, and we've already had Wim on the podcast. He was a guest. But with you, I feel the same way when you see someone who is so curious, who could get away with not caring about these things if you don't want to, but who still has the courage to talk about them and use their platform as a space to open up these dialogues.

It's like it's bigger than just doing the work and following the path. Yeah, I mean, I could see you doing the work. It's fun to watch you do the work and discover it. I love working on myself. It's actually one of my passions, and I find so much comfort and joy in it, and I really enjoy finding where I think I can improve and be, even if it's physical, like my physical health or Physical exercise, or... I just started doing, speaking of Wim Hof, I started doing cold plunges and ice baths, and even if I don't have time to go outside, I just took a cold plunge; I did it right before I got here.

It's the best thing in the world. So again, it takes so much mental focus... it's all completely mental. So I don't know, it's just stuff like that that I really enjoy. So I'm always trying to be the best version of myself, and I just like that it really makes me feel good. I like taking care of myself and I love that kind of thing, so it's really cool. But it's cool that you say you like seeing that from me, because there's always been a bit of a weird side to it for me where I'm like, " Is this a pity party?

" Because I don't want it to be. I want it to have a On the very positive side, I want to connect with people, and I guess that's my goal, to think, "There's really a side of me you might not know," but the goal here is to connect and not feel self-pitying , because I want this to be a learning experience for everyone. I want it to be really positive and really well-received . I want you to watch it and have a positive feeling about it.

So, I don't know. You'll see that if I, you know, when I post something or when I want to talk about something, I usually share a tip or a little technique, even if it's something as simple as going outside, taking a few deep breaths, and journaling. Yeah. That's just the kind of stuff I really like to share because I feel like I want to be helpful. Yeah. Absolutely, and that's how I see it, at least. I don't see Not like a pity party, but more like a reminder or something I've done, and I feel like that positivity comes through in the way we do it too.

So, at least if it can help, no matter how it looks from the outside, it really feels that way. And it's been by far the warmest introduction to a conversation I've ever experienced in my entire life, and doing that... To say that I was really nervous coming here because it means a lot to me. And I mean that because, you know, I've done a lot of interviews in my life, and when I think about it, or when I've even wanted to do something like this, it means a lot to me.

So, it made me a little nervous. And I thought, I just want to do it right. It's not like I'm going out to promote something or talk about something. It's something very real that we're all going through, which is just, you know, Our well-being and everything. So, yeah, and it is, you know, for me, sincerely, and I really mean it. The podcast has been a great excuse, or really an intention for me, to get to know people, and I really admire that. Yeah. And so for me, it's a great way to make new friendships and new relationships because if you can sit down and talk to someone and really hear each other, you're like, "Oh, we should do this more often." And so, well, I'm honored by that.

Yeah, so for me, that's definitely it, and for me, you know, you say that and, you know, you take it as intentionally as you are, it's, you know, for me, that's also important. I always share that before we start recording, but we just went with the flow. And then I heard somewhere that your first job was as a dog walker. Yeah. And so I was wondering, do you Do you have any lessons or anything you learned from being a dog walker ? I find first jobs so interesting.

Yeah. No, I mean, I was always a super disciplined kid. Which meant I loved going to bed at 7 p.m. My mom would play with me and my little sister and say, "Mom, it's 7 p.m. I have to go to sleep. It's bedtime ." She'd ask me, "Are you okay?" So I've always been that kid, and I think I've always really wanted to work. I don't know why. I just always wanted to have something to do, something I was passionate about, something I really loved. So , yeah, when I was younger, I put up flyers in our community and said I was going to walk dogs, and I eventually found people who would let me take their dogs for a few hours and I'd walk them.

I loved animals. And I liked having something to do. So, I spent my childhood enjoying being alone with animals. So, I think it was a cool and very appropriate thing for me because I could be alone walking around , but also being around all those little dogs. Yeah. What do you think it was like during those early years where you said you were very disciplined? It sounds like you were aware of certain habits you had picked up at that time. What were some of the things you were sure about, or how were you seeking validation during those early years, and where did that come from?

I mean, it's interesting. So, Kylie, my little sister, she's always been a social person. I've always enjoyed being alone. I don't know if it's the Scorpio in me, so it just came naturally or something. I had a group of friends that I liked, but I remember very clearly that on weekends, I I wasn't running around to see my friends all the time. During the summer, I was with them, but on weekends between classes, I was really on my own. I loved hanging out in my room.

I was a bit of a nerd. I loved video games and sitting in front of the computer playing The Sims all day. I just liked being alone. And then all day during the summer, I was with my horses. And yeah, I don't know . It just brought me joy. I don't think I have a very long explanation for it. It was so simple for me as a kid. It was so simple that it made me happy. And that's exactly what I wanted. And that explains, I guess, a lot of me now.

Um, I went through a phase where I felt like I needed to be around people. I think I have a very social life, and my job is very social. So, I was, you know, kind of conditioned to I used to want to be surrounded by lots of people. And then, with the pandemic, we weren't surrounded by people as much anymore. Now, I'm enjoying being alone again, which is really cool . Yeah. And, uh, I had the best day of my life, all by myself, on Sunday.

I got up, went horseback riding . I took my niece pony riding. Just her and me. It was so nice. I brought her back home , went inside, took a cold bath, went in my pool, lay down, and wrote in a journal. I had the best day, and I was almost completely alone. So, I really enjoyed it. I'm sure it's very refreshing for people to hear that, too, because I feel like people can, from the outside, perceive a life that, as you said, is very full , social, and of course, you have great friends, but knowing that you Can you feel comfortable in your own company?

It's a habit you've developed over time. I crave simple things. I love my life, I love my job, and I feel so lucky to have been placed here, that for some reason, I was given this life. I'm immensely grateful for it, and I've had so much fun , and I love to look back on the experience I've had , the experiences I've had so far , and it's like a shock to me. I think to myself, "This is so cool to be living this life." But at the end of the day, when I 'm home and alone, I crave simple things.

I like simple days. I just like a simple routine, being with myself and being surrounded by the people I love, my little team, so. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, I mean, I think that's what we're all looking for. This passion in our careers and our work, and then the simplicity at home. What would you say? I've been thinking about this, and I've watched so many of your interviews and read a lot too, but what would you say about one of your proudest moments or one of your greatest achievements, or something that you really feel, and internally—I mean, like the basis of our conversation—something that really gives you inner joy when you think about it or when you've experienced it?

Like I said, I think back on things I've accomplished, even in my work. For example, I think at one point, when I was younger, I really decided that I wanted to be a model, and that's what I wanted to do. And the fact that I went through with it because we talked about that determination, it was... I was 14 when I made that decision, and I was like, "This is what I want to do," and I went to my mom and told her :"Please help me do this.

"And I didn't stop until I was 24 , and I was like, 'Okay, I think I need to, like, take a step back,' which we also do because it's very...Yeah. Quite a dramatic story, but I knew, and I think I'm proud of myself for having been that kid, for having been determined to do this , and then for having executed it and reached the level I did and continue to do, I guess. But I'm also proud, I think, of the personal work I did in that process, because there was a long period, I would say the core five years, where I was extremely overworked, not very happy, not because I wasn't doing what I loved, but just because I was overwhelmed and felt like I was saying yes to everything, because I was really, really grateful and really honored to be in the position I was in, so I was always saying yes.

And that It really exhausted me, to the point where I was n't happy anymore. So I had to set those boundaries for myself when I was around 23 or 24. I'd say, what, a year before the pandemic. So, yeah, I was probably 23. I really set boundaries for myself and told myself I wanted to keep doing this because it's what I love . But I need to start saying no when I can and prioritizing myself, prioritizing my happiness and well-being. Yeah. And it's done wonders for me.

I feel like I can be better for myself and I can be a better person for the people around me that day and, you know, who I'm working with that day. So, yeah. Yeah. So, that's what I'm proud of. Sorry I didn't give you a long answer. That's a good thing. I wouldn't say I was hoping for it because I'm always open to Everyone has their own life experience, but there's a part of me that likes to hear that. I really appreciate hearing that because when you've accomplished so many incredible things in your career, which you have, you can think, "Well, that's what the role is all about." Like knowing how to navigate it all or making the right choices at the right time.

A healthy balance. Balance, yes. It's so important. It's important for all of us. Like we have to ... It's what we prioritize, you know? Yeah. So. How did you find the courage to do this at 23, as you say? You're in a competitive industry. Like you said, it was burnout. It's fast-paced. I imagine there are comparisons in this industry. There's competition in this industry. It's not an easy field to move up. You are, you know, you're in the top 0.01% of performers in your field. So it's It's difficult.

And the reason I ask this is because I work with a lot of people in this field, and having the courage to say, "No, I know if I fix this, everything will be fine," actually takes more courage than you might think. You realize that when you have nothing, you have nothing to lose. You can actually have a lot of courage. But when you have everything and everything to lose, and most of the time, at least from what I've heard around town, you know, managers and older agents (and I'm not saying you have all of that), but the people I know get told, "Well, if you don't do this, you'll be forgotten next year," or "You know, your career will only last six months longer.

" How did you get the courage to say, "No, no, no, I have to do this"? Where did that idea come from? I don't think I'd ever thought about it before. That way, to be completely honest with you. I just knew that if I went any further, I was going to lose myself. I was at that point, I was on the verge of tipping over, where if I went any further , I probably wouldn't have been great. It was so important for me to feel good that I knew it was something I had to do, and I can't say you're absolutely right.

There were so many people around me who had told me not to say no, and who had told me yes, told me not to say no, told me not to stop. I kind of fought to get out of it because there were people who had worked for me and who, you know, didn't want me to stop because it might have been beneficial to them. Of course. Uh, but I got to that point and I just knew I had to do it, and I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, I guess.

Yeah. It was just such an incredible feeling I had, where I knew that if I did this, I was going to be better for everyone and I was going to be better for myself , which meant I was going to be better for the people around me, and I had to do it. So, it wasn't really that I wanted to be able to live happily ever after, heaven forbid, that all of this would one day disappear. And I think it was a great moment for me, where I thought, everything would be okay if I didn't get this job tomorrow.

And everything would be okay if I did n't get this job in a month. If I had to take that time to do whatever it was, things would eventually happen. Everything was going to happen as planned, and I had to trust that . So, yeah. Well , for me, and from the outside, it's beautiful that you didn't see it in yourself, because it makes things even more wonderful. But the idea that for me, of Going out into the world takes a lot of courage. Yeah, thank you.

It takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of vulnerability, openness, and courage on every level, whether someone is considering leaving their job to do something they love, someone is trying to relocate their family and doesn't know how, or someone like you feels successful but everything's going, well, wait a minute. And I think over the last few years, we've seen athletes, musicians, actors, and people from all creative fields step back and say, " Well, I need to put myself out there." Yes. And I think that's empowering because I think we hear so much about burnout in work culture and corporate culture.

Absolutely. So, what did you start doing with that new time at that point? For example, where was the curiosity? Was the curiosity still there, and now you could actually follow it? It was. It was still there, and a lot of People came up to me to talk about meditation and how it had changed their lives, about therapy, and so many different things. And I was a little overwhelmed because I was like, "Oh my God, what if this is for me ?" I think it's a very personal experience.

I think everyone has a very different version of it . And so, it was a little overwhelming . So, I think I really took the time to stop for a moment. It was even the little things. It was like being able to go to my friend's birthday party, which I wouldn't have been able to go to before because I was working so much. I love hearing that because I think it's these simple things, like, you know, giving yourself that space, whatever you need to do. Yeah.

When you need it. And like you said, sometimes that's when all the subscription buttons pop up in front of you and you're like, "Try this, try this." And it's like, "Well , no, no, no." Let's just take my time. It was also, now that I think about it, 23, I'm 26 years old, I've had my horse since... So, at that time, that's when I bought the horse I have now which is my...kind, I...I jump her and I have...I have...I have two other horses, but they are like retired.

So, I don't really mount them in the same way that I mount her. So, yeah, I guess it was around that time that I was like, "I'm going to do this because I love it and I want to get back into it, and it's what I've loved my whole life." So, it's around that time that I feel like all of this started to happen, and I bought my horse and started making more time for the things that really made me happy. Yeah, what I notice in you and observe, or at least just from those...

No, in a good way. In a good way. Everything's fine. I was just saying, I feel like no matter what's going on in your orbit, there's this pillar of belief that it's important to be happy. Yeah. Like, you know, it's like this central belief in your life where it's important to be happy. It's important to be happy. That has to be the goal. It definitely is. And, you You know, it's not always easy. We live in such an interesting industry and in such an interesting time with social media that it can be really hard sometimes.

You can fall victim to so many things that don't serve you and don't make you happy. If your happiness depends on the actions of others, you know, you're at the mercy of things you can't control. And that's never where I want to be. So, I always want to live, as my therapist and I talk about my Higher Goddess, my Higher Self. I always want to live there knowing that, you know, when I'm there, you can't take it away from me. It's mine. And no matter what, you can disagree with me, you can agree with me.

It doesn't matter ... I'm not changing. I'm there. I'm in my Higher Goddess. So, I always live holding onto my happiness and not letting anyone else affect it. And even though I'm sometimes a victim of it... Yeah. Like we probably all are. Absolutely. I strive every day to live in that place. So. What are the qualities of your higher goddess? So, that kind of challenge. Like I said, I don't like self-pity . I also like, you know, sometimes it feels weird to say nice things about someone else.

But I've also learned a lot about talking to myself and looking in the mirror and saying, "You're great . You're beautiful. You're amazing. You're loyal. You're positive. You're so..." I love affirmations. I just like to sit there and reassure myself about who I am because it's something else for me. You know, there are so many false narratives about me, about all of us, I 'm sure. Like, so many people think they've got you figured out when they don't even know half of it . So, to just sit there and say, you You know, sometimes you get frustrated .

It can feel really unfair. You might read something someone says about you or hear something someone says about you and think, that's so unfair because that's not who you are. And that really pisses me off sometimes, and it really sucks. But then I look in the mirror and think, but I know who I am. And that's it . Why does everything else matter? My friends know who I am. My family knows who I am. My dog ​​knows who I am . My horse knows who I am.

Why is everything else just noise? There's this beautiful wisdom that I always share from Charles Horton Cooley. He wrote it in 1890, I think, which shows how true it's been for so long, and well before that too. And he said that the challenge today is that I am not what I think I am. I am not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am. And we're going to leave everyone blown away by that. It gives me chills every time I say it.

Charles Horton Cooley said, "The challenge today is that I am not what I think I am. I am not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am." And what he's trying to say is that we live in a perception of ourselves. So if I think you think I'm smart, then I allow myself to feel smart. It's like we need that validation. Or if I think you think I'm not smart, then I feel hurt. And the challenge is, I have absolutely no idea what you think, or especially not in the outside world.

And so I find that what you're saying is, "Well, what do I think of myself? How do I feel about myself? What do people think who Do they really know me? I think that's really empowering. I wanted to ask because I get the impression that from what I've seen and heard, you have really good friendships. You have really good relationships with your family, as you said. What do you think are some good habits or character traits in your relationships that have helped you build good friendships and family relationships?

Because I think for a lot of people, their friendships and family can sometimes be the hardest part. But I get the impression that the way you communicate or talk about it, I think, okay, there are some really good habits in place here. Are there any principles or rules that you've learned along the way that have been helpful? I mean, of course, honesty. Um, I really like to maintain an honest, healthy, and communicative attitude in relationships. But I also think it's really important not to feel like you're on top of each other.

The others, when you're surrounded by family or friends. It's normal to run to the bathroom and think, "Let me take a few breaths, because it's getting too difficult." You know what I mean? I like to take a second. My feelings are valid. Sometimes my family is very... And then I'll go back and everything will be fine . So, sometimes I do that. I love it. I like how easy it is. We don't need to learn a new meditation practice. So, something new. Sometimes it's as simple as that.

Yeah, it's as simple as that. I love it . I, you know, one of the things that, you know, when it, that, that really touched my heart when I saw that because I think when things happen in the culture and everyone talks about it, but, but sometimes you think, "Okay, well, I can say there's a real connection here." Like when you lost Virgil. Mhm. Right? Like when I saw your message and what you were talking about, I thought, "Wow, this is someone who had a really deep connection with this person." “And going through grief is really, really hard.

Like, you know, people losing , and I lost two people very close to me during the pandemic. I'm sorry. One was...Thank you. The other was...One was my spiritual teacher since I was 12 years old, and he died of stage 4 brain cancer, and I hadn't seen him during the pandemic. I couldn't go back for him because it was still a period of strict lockdown, so I couldn't go back for his funeral. And, you know, he had been the person who had been a huge part of my life.

And then the other person, around the same year, was my best friend as a monk. So, he was still a monk. Wow. And then he had to get cancer, and he passed away during the pandemic. I didn't get to see him either. And then he was my age. And so losing someone who was, you know, and he was always there. And so...Yeah, and And so on, when I saw your, you know, your wonderful tribute to Virgil as well. I thought to myself, you ... How do you handle something like that when, you know, these aren't just friends from the industry, but a real friendship beyond that.

And how do you know... Well, my first thought here is: why are these always the best people? Why are these people always such bright spots in everyone's lives? It's like you reflect on it and think it's so unfair, and you go through all sorts of emotions. And to be honest, it was really shocking because not everyone knew what they were going through and what they were suffering from. It was truly shocking. I'll never forget the day I found out. And it breaks your heart, and you can't help but think, "Oh my God, have I said enough already?" Have I already told him enough?

“It’s really interesting to share this feeling with so many people. In a way, it feels good, and we’re like everyone else, it makes us feel so human. We’re sharing this emotion with people who knew him, people who didn’t know him, people who loved him from afar. It’s just a really beautiful and incredible thing to a certain extent, but it’s also, obviously, the most devastating thing. It hits so hard when so many people are talking about it and so many people are affected by it. So, it was definitely a really shocking, really sad moment.

Yeah. It was…Yeah. Yeah, and these…and what you said there is really interesting, it’s like why…and I had that with my spiritual teacher, for sure. I was just like, like he was, you know…and…And what’s really powerful in what I could at least remember of him at that time is that, even though he had cancer of stage four brain damage, which meant he had lost his short-term memory and a large part of his long-term memory was impaired, if you ever met him. He would just thank you for your service to God.

He would simply say, "Thank you for all you do for others." And he was grateful. And I was like Virgil, too. He was the most positive person who ever lived his life, grateful, wanting to say yes to everything, just wanting to be there for everyone. You could literally ask him to draw you a pencil, and he would say, "I'll... It will be done tomorrow. What do you need? What else do you need?" As if he had so much to give, and he did . And that wasn't...

That was before his diagnosis. It was like that was just who Virgil was. So, to discover what he discovered at a certain point in his life and remain that person and continue to say, " I'm going to be there for everything." "The world, my time here is so special to all these others, and I'm going to be there to make them feel amazing," it's just unreal. It just makes you think, what? Yeah. How could you be so amazing and generous ? It's so crazy. There wasn't an ounce of selfishness in that man's body.

He was just the best. But I'm sorry to hear about your... Oh no, no. I think it's really okay to talk about people we both love in the same way, even if they're at such different points in their lives and doing very different things. But talking about someone—and I think this is a big part of it for me, at least with the grief I have— I feel like when I talk about the beautiful qualities of the people I've lost, it gives me so much confidence that they want me to live them and try to embody them, and that we're lucky to have known that guy.

of humanity. Yeah. As you know, and that's what I think about him. I think all we really want as human beings is to be, you know, when we leave this earth, we want to be remembered in such a beautiful and positive way. I know that's the case, of course, but you just want to, of course, make people feel something, and he made so many people feel something, and for that, it's so special. Like, they say we have our purpose here, and I know he fulfilled a purpose here that he was meant to fulfill, and I think that's beautiful.

It's obviously a very, very sad situation, and it breaks my heart, but I only have beautiful thoughts for him, and I think that's really cool and really special. So, yeah. Thanks for sharing that. And I had to ask you because, yeah, I just feel like I love hearing amazing things about amazing people. You know, because I think a lot of the most incredible people I grew up with read about people I never met. And I've spent a lot of my life studying books about people I never met.

So, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Einstein, and people I really consider to have influenced a lot of my life because of the way they lived. And I feel like he was potentially one of those people I never met, but every time I hear about him, I think, " Oh, that's someone we could learn from." "You talked about your goal." I was wondering how your objective had changed. You had this very confident vision of "I want to be a role model," you know, you surpassed, surpassed and continued to thrive in this world, and I still hope you will .

How has your goal evolved over time? I think I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot about myself, about what I want from my life, and that's kind of what we talked about, but uh, I'm really looking forward to getting older and learning a lot more not only about myself, but also about the journey and the path I want to take and follow. So, I would say that my goal has evolved, moving from the professional sphere to doing what I want to do , making sure I am happy and finding what I love, etc.

But I have, in a way, as I said, really started listening to myself, and I think that my goal , at least right now, and what I have done, are the same. In a way, she evolved to become my higher goddess. I am determined to connect with her at all times, but as I get older, I have so many things I want to connect with other people and with, you know, social media and people who may not know me personally, and just, you know, what follows.

As I said, I received this life for some reason. For some reason, I have been placed here and I feel a purpose to share, to create connections and to put a smile on people's faces or to make someone feel a positive feeling. And so, I think that in me, wanting to succeed, connecting to my higher goddess, I think that also implies that I am an excellent version of myself so that others can then experience it. And my advice, my tools and everything I can share, all the help I can provide, I really want to, uh, you know, as corny as it sounds , I want to spread the love.

I want people to feel love. That's really, I suppose, the goal. Yeah. It's magnificent. I mean, what more could you ask for? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. And it's funny that so many corny things, or whatever, are true things. It's true. That's what it is . There's also the fact that we all live in such an interesting time, obviously, and that can seem really negative. Yeah. And I tend to stay away from platforms like social media because it's sometimes hard to watch, and it seems really negative.

So, I feel like we all need a little smile from time to time. Yeah, I agree. I agree . I post these videos every day, which are just these funny and silly things that happen in the world and that my team will find, I will find, and I post them every day literally for that reason and that reason only, because I think I can or, maybe say, maybe not say something that makes someone smile. "But it definitely will. That way, it will undoubtedly bring joy into someone's life.

And if that's the only joy someone has ever felt , I want them to see good in the world and for there to be good in the world. That's one of my favorite things to see on TikTok when I'm sitting in bed at night and I'm a TikTok victim. I love seeing people post things like, ' Here are five amazing things that happened in the world in the last two weeks,' or something like that, and saying that pandas aren't extinct anymore and the Great Barrier Reef bear is coming back and stuff like that.

And so I'm like, that's so cool. That's what I want to hear. Exactly. And you know, if it were like it was going down, it would get a lot of likes and clicks. But if it were like it was going up, it wouldn't get the same attention. Yeah. Why?" Do we do it? Would we really want to gravitate toward negativity? I know. Very interesting. Re-educating ourselves . I sincerely believe it's just a pattern. It's a pattern and a habit that's been ingrained for so long. And we need to re-educate ourselves.

From all of this and all of this, and we tell ourselves it's going from bad to worse. I need to see what's going on, and we need to re-educate our brains. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, and it starts with what you said earlier. It starts with how we see ourselves. Everything stems from there. If someone looks in the mirror, like you said earlier, or if someone just reflects on themselves, not physically, but just internally, yeah. Most of us will spot all the negative things about ourselves, and then we'll project them onto the world, and we'll spot all the negative things about other people, and then we'll project them onto others.

Social media, and that will propel us to... Everything is a reflection of everything else, yeah, if we ask someone to sit and write, like you said, we feel uncomfortable accepting a compliment. Or we feel uncomfortable saying something nice about ourselves, right? Exactly. And so, it all starts with our relationship with ourselves. If we were able to find three good things about ourselves today, I promise you'll find three good things about the person sitting across from you, and that ... Exactly. I do a lot of inner work, inner child work with my therapist, and there was actually a trend on TikTok going around, but, uh, quite by chance, we ended up talking about it naturally during my session.

And it was like this trend on TikTok, I guess, it was like a girl saying, "Whenever you're mean to yourself, just think, 'This is what you're talking about.'" And then she told me, like, a picture of herself when she was a child. So, my therapist and I were talking about something similar, and she said, " Why don't you find, like, a picture of yourself and put it on your bathroom mirror, so that every time you're mean to yourself, you say to yourself, 'That's what you're talking about,' and then she said ...

'Everyone will see you.' In the morning, every night, every day, when you're standing in front of your bathroom mirror, you look at it and remember that if you say something negative about yourself, if you're mean to yourself, that's what you're talking about?" And so, I did that . I went to my memory cupboard at home and looked through old photo albums. And I've seen those photo albums all my life; I literally saw all the photos that were there . And I turned the page and there was a picture of myself that I had never seen before.

It was a Polaroid, so it was the original photo, and it was just me, a little girl, with a bow in my hair and a dress, and I have, like, a little alien tattoo or something right there, and I had this big nerdy smile on my face, and I was like, "This is the picture I'm putting on my thing." "I can show you the photo later." I have a picture of it on my phone, but uh, so I stuck it on my bathroom mirror, and I'm talking to it.

And I always tell myself, if I ever look in the mirror and I 'm negative towards myself or anything, I always look at her and I say to myself, "She's great, and I love her." "It's just another way of loving yourself." It's a fantastic tool. My team found a picture of me as a child and made an embarrassing version of this trend, so I'm going to show it to you too. Oh, great. Okay, you know her. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about too. Kedu, you said earlier that, you know, you wanted to come here, and you wanted to share, and you showed up and you had things that you wanted to share.

What was it you had on your heart that you wanted to share that we may not have addressed today, or is there something in your mind and heart like an experience or something that really drew you here and made this possible, isn't it? I want to honor that. I think we clearly touched on a lot of things that I would have liked to get off my chest. I don't know . I was really excited, honestly, to come here and share. A little piece of myself that I'm sometimes very afraid to share.

And, uh , like I said, I arrived here and I was a little nervous, because it's important to me, and like this part of everyone's journey, and what we're talking about today, is so important. I suppose my intention here today was to come and share a little bit of myself and maybe those watching will find some comfort or joy in all of this, or understand me a little more, you mean? So I think we've covered a lot of really interesting points and yeah, I mean, I feel really good.

GOOD. I wanted to honor that. I asked because, you know, I think it's...I think when you feel you're on the same wavelength as someone, and yeah, I feel like, you know, we've learned so many new things about you today, and there are so many times where I'm like, I just feel like you're so comfortable and you've been so open with me. We did, but I just wanted to honor that. THANKS. And make sure you truly feel that you have been heard and seen . I appreciate that.

THANKS. I want to pay attention. Ultimately, we all want to be understood . I think that the closer we get to people, to human beings, the closer we get to people from different backgrounds and walks of life, the more we begin to recognize how similar we all are. Yes, exactly. How many challenges do we all share, regardless of the money someone has in the bank, their fame, or the number of subscribers someone has? It's true. And what we are finding is that everyone feels their own guilt for their situation, everyone feels their own pressure for their situation, everyone feels their own challenge for their situation, and we are beginning to realize that we all have the same emotions.

Exactly. In different mixtures. Yes, we are all living a human experience. Exactly. We all take it one day at a time. I think we all need to be a little kinder to each other and take it slow. People. Because we are, we all have our own difficulties and uh I don't know. I'm an empath, so I like to feel things and I feel things for people and uh yeah. Yeah, and it starts with you. It's true. Yeah, it starts with yourself. I thought you were talking about me.

I was like, I don't know, I don't know if I have that power. I was like, thank you. No, no, no. I meant to say that I wanted to say this to our listener, as if it started with you. It starts with yourself. Like, absolutely. If you can be kinder to yourself, chances are you will be... I discovered that the days I stopped judging myself, I stopped judging others because it changed my view of humanity. So, uh Kendall, we end each episode of On Purpose with a final round of five, which is a quick round of five.

I ask you a question and you answer it with a maximum of one word or sentence. So it's super fast and short. And we have to take you because you have to...you have to go to... your next appointment. Uh, but okay, so the first question is: what intrigues you at the moment? Oh, uh, I'm super curious. I was saying how much I love Michael Singer and I think what I really love is that I'm reading The Surrender Experiment right now and I'm only on the first two chapters.

So basically, it's not a quick answer. That's great. But I love it. Please, please . He is basically in the first part of the book where he talks about his curiosity about meditation, and how he got into meditation, and how he was actually traveling with his friends and girlfriend in the woods and sat in a corner or under a tree and said to himself, "I'm really going to immerse myself in it and see what happens." "That's what intrigues me right now." Actually, I meditate, I do a lot of breathing work, breathing exercises, and I really want to connect to...

Yeah. As Michael Singer did. I love it. It's magnificent. That's an excellent answer. Um, second question, if there is something you are personally working on right now , what are you working on about yourself? Is there anything there? Yes. Um, I'm working on...I'm working on the limits and I'm trying not to stress too much. Because I can stress about things in my head and I overthink and I... So, I'm really working on calming down and letting things go better and not controlling things too much, especially things I can't control.

I love it. Question number three, what do you like most about the creation of 818? Oh. Um, being an entrepreneur, being a founder. Probably that. As you know, I was a model and I did a lot of work for people. I like being. My own boss and being able to have my own creative space, a place where I can be creative, express my creativity and have fun doing all this creative work. I learned a lot, I discovered the culture, tequila and everything. I had a wonderful time.

I love it. Question number four: What did you value before, but no longer value? Validation. Mhm. Excellent answer. No longer of interest. Excellent answer. At least, that's what I tell myself. Yes, yeah. Okay, first it needs to become a thought. Yeah. But it's true. I used to care much more about validation. I really don't care anymore. At least, that's what I tell myself. THANKS. Fifth and final question: if you could create one law that everyone would have to follow, what would it be? Oh, I would do it like on a Sunday, you have to take half the day and not look at your phone or something like that.

I love it. It's a legitimate law. That's it. Great. Isn't that right? That would be pretty nice. Or all day long, or be completely crazy. I love this idea. I love it. Uh, Kendall Jenner, everyone . It was incredible. Kendall, thank you. Honestly, uh, and I'm looking forward to seeing you all again afterwards too, but there was so much fluidity and synergy in all of this and I couldn't thank you more for doing this with me here on On Purpose. And I hope this is the first time we do this, but I hope it's the beginning of a beautiful friendship and a beautiful relationship and, uh, of course.

I want everyone who listened or watched at home to feel free to let Kendall and me know. Tag us to tell us what caught your attention, what intrigued you , what made you curious, or what she said that changed your perspective, or what you learned that was new; I would love to hear it. I know there were tons of moments where I listened and thought, "This is amazing. This is brilliant." So, if you have any nuggets of wisdom that resonated with you, please let us know, because I love seeing what made a difference in your life.

And a huge thank you to Kendall for opening our hearts and minds. Thank you. I'm honored. Thank you so much . It was incredible. If this clip provided you with value and you'd like to watch something else , this next video has been specially selected for you based on your viewing habits . I hope you enjoy it, and if you do, please subscribe to the channel so we can continue to bring you fantastic conversations.

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