How to Pick the Right Workout: The Most Important Question to Ask Before You Start | Mind Pump 2908

All right, you're thinking about working All right, you're thinking about working out. You want to get in shape. You just out. You want to get in shape. You just out. You want to get in shape. You just don't know what the right workout is for don't know what the right workout is for don't know what the right workout is for you. What should it be? What should it you. What should it be? What should it you. What should it be? What should it look like? How often? We're going to look like? How often? We're going to look like? How often? We're going to talk about that right now, how we can talk about that right now, how we can talk about that right now, how we can help you pick the right workout for your help you pick the right workout for your help you pick the right workout for your goals. goals. goals. >> Where you going with this? >> Where you going with this? >> Where you going with this? >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Where you going with this? >> Where you going with this? >> Where you going with this? >> Well, it's just uh it's a question >> Well, it's just uh it's a question >> Well, it's just uh it's a question people often ask. What's the right way people often ask. What's the right way people often ask. What's the right way to work out? to work out? to work out? >> it's such a vague it's such a vague >> it's such a vague it's such a vague >> it's such a vague it's such a vague question. I'm trying to figure out where question. I'm trying to figure out where question. I'm trying to figure out where you're going with it. you're going with it. you're going with it. >> Well, the question is, Adam, >> Well, the question is, Adam, >> Well, the question is, Adam, >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> somebody comes up to you and says, >> somebody comes up to you and says, >> somebody comes up to you and says, "How do I know what the like how do I "How do I know what the like how do I "How do I know what the like how do I pick the right workout?" pick the right workout?" pick the right workout?" >> propose that right now and Justin and I >> propose that right now and Justin and I >> propose that right now and Justin and I have nothing to say cuz we know the very have nothing to say cuz we know the very have nothing to say cuz we know the very first thing we're going to say back to first thing we're going to say back to first thing we're going to say back to you is, "Well, that depends." Well, what you is, "Well, that depends." Well, what you is, "Well, that depends." Well, what is is is >> Well, what is it that you know, what is >> Well, what is it that you know, what is >> Well, what is it that you know, what is it What are your goals? What do you do it What are your goals? What do you do it What are your goals? What do you do currently right now? How long you've currently right now? How long you've currently right now? How long you've been working out for? been working out for? been working out for? >> Exactly. Here's the first thing and I >> Exactly. Here's the first thing and I >> Exactly. Here's the first thing and I and I'm I love you guys' opinion on and I'm I love you guys' opinion on and I'm I love you guys' opinion on this. I'm sure you guys will agree, but this. I'm sure you guys will agree, but this. I'm sure you guys will agree, but I think the first thing people need to I think the first thing people need to I think the first thing people need to consider consider consider when picking a workout is uh do you when picking a workout is uh do you when picking a workout is uh do you enjoy it? enjoy it? enjoy it? Now, that sounds stupid to someone cuz Now, that sounds stupid to someone cuz Now, that sounds stupid to someone cuz someone's like, "I just want to get someone's like, "I just want to get someone's like, "I just want to get these results. I just want to burn body these results. I just want to burn body these results. I just want to burn body fat. I just want to whatever." fat. I just want to whatever." fat. I just want to whatever." But, the truth is uh the thing you enjoy But, the truth is uh the thing you enjoy But, the truth is uh the thing you enjoy doing, again, so long as it's doing, again, so long as it's doing, again, so long as it's appropriate, right? appropriate, right? appropriate, right? >> Yeah, I was just going to say that that >> Yeah, I was just going to say that that >> Yeah, I was just going to say that that that there's a bit of that there's a bit of that there's a bit of that's a you got to be careful when you that's a you got to be careful when you that's a you got to be careful when you say that because I feel like there's a say that because I feel like there's a say that because I feel like there's a lot of people lot of people lot of people who uh uh who uh uh who uh uh find enjoyment in suffering. Uh find enjoyment in suffering. Uh find enjoyment in suffering. Uh and punishing themselves. and punishing themselves. and punishing themselves. Uh find enjoyment playing a playing a Uh find enjoyment playing a playing a Uh find enjoyment playing a playing a sport even though that doesn't align sport even though that doesn't align sport even though that doesn't align with their goal. Like so, I don't like with their goal. Like so, I don't like with their goal. Like so, I don't like to lead off with this. I do think that to lead off with this. I do think that to lead off with this. I do think that it's important to note that you if this it's important to note that you if this it's important to note that you if this person's going to be consistent person's going to be consistent person's going to be consistent long-term, that you have to you have to long-term, that you have to you have to long-term, that you have to you have to learn to love or enjoy the thing that learn to love or enjoy the thing that learn to love or enjoy the thing that you're doing. you're doing. you're doing. But, leading off with this in this But, leading off with this in this But, leading off with this in this conversation to me sets a lot of people conversation to me sets a lot of people conversation to me sets a lot of people up for failure because a lot of people up for failure because a lot of people up for failure because a lot of people have a terrible relationship, first of have a terrible relationship, first of have a terrible relationship, first of all, with exercise. They don't even know all, with exercise. They don't even know all, with exercise. They don't even know what they like or don't like or they've what they like or don't like or they've what they like or don't like or they've never experienced what a a good healthy never experienced what a a good healthy never experienced what a a good healthy relationship or balance with exercise relationship or balance with exercise relationship or balance with exercise looks like. Or two, the modality that looks like. Or two, the modality that looks like. Or two, the modality that they choose because they quote-unquote they choose because they quote-unquote they choose because they quote-unquote love it doesn't align with the goal and love it doesn't align with the goal and love it doesn't align with the goal and the outcome. the outcome. the outcome. >> Well, this again speaks more to like >> Well, this again speaks more to like >> Well, this again speaks more to like having a a meeting with a with a coach having a a meeting with a with a coach having a a meeting with a with a coach to kind of identify these things, right? to kind of identify these things, right? to kind of identify these things, right? Cuz I don't to your point, I don't I Cuz I don't to your point, I don't I Cuz I don't to your point, I don't I don't necessarily think people um you don't necessarily think people um you don't necessarily think people um you know, have the right idea of what would know, have the right idea of what would know, have the right idea of what would be best in like prescriptive-wise, be best in like prescriptive-wise, be best in like prescriptive-wise, like I think that uh yeah, it could be a like I think that uh yeah, it could be a like I think that uh yeah, it could be a bit misleading like what they uh bit misleading like what they uh bit misleading like what they uh emotionally want to do or like you know, emotionally want to do or like you know, emotionally want to do or like you know, it might not actually be the most it might not actually be the most it might not actually be the most beneficial for them. beneficial for them. beneficial for them. >> Well, that's that's perfect. What you >> Well, that's that's perfect. What you >> Well, that's that's perfect. What you guys are going is perfect. That's That's guys are going is perfect. That's That's guys are going is perfect. That's That's why this is a good conversation cuz why this is a good conversation cuz why this is a good conversation cuz you're 100% right. Uh how many times do you're 100% right. Uh how many times do you're 100% right. Uh how many times do people lie to themselves about what they people lie to themselves about what they people lie to themselves about what they enjoy doing? enjoy doing? enjoy doing? Um you know, people are like, "Oh, I Um you know, people are like, "Oh, I Um you know, people are like, "Oh, I love running every single day." Uh and love running every single day." Uh and love running every single day." Uh and then you try a different modality to get then you try a different modality to get then you try a different modality to get better results and suddenly they're better results and suddenly they're better results and suddenly they're like, "I actually didn't like running so like, "I actually didn't like running so like, "I actually didn't like running so much." I guess a good way to answer it much." I guess a good way to answer it much." I guess a good way to answer it cuz it's there's nuance to it. We're cuz it's there's nuance to it. We're cuz it's there's nuance to it. We're going to get to that, but one way to going to get to that, but one way to going to get to that, but one way to answer this is like, "Would you do this answer this is like, "Would you do this answer this is like, "Would you do this if you got no results from it?" if you got no results from it?" if you got no results from it?" >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Would you do this form of activity if >> Would you do this form of activity if >> Would you do this form of activity if all you got from it was you did that you all you got from it was you did that you all you got from it was you did that you just did that activity? Like that's a just did that activity? Like that's a just did that activity? Like that's a really good way to know whether or not really good way to know whether or not really good way to know whether or not you enjoy it. you enjoy it. you enjoy it. >> I mean and that's a great way to >> I mean and that's a great way to >> I mean and that's a great way to position that when you get somebody who position that when you get somebody who position that when you get somebody who says something like that, right? Like or says something like that, right? Like or says something like that, right? Like or they tell you something like, "Hey, I they tell you something like, "Hey, I they tell you something like, "Hey, I really want to build this butt or I want really want to build this butt or I want really want to build this butt or I want to look this way, um but I love running to look this way, um but I love running to look this way, um but I love running marathons." marathons." marathons." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so you ask them like, "Well, if >> And so you ask them like, "Well, if >> And so you ask them like, "Well, if running marathons never got you that running marathons never got you that running marathons never got you that body or never got you that butt, would body or never got you that butt, would body or never got you that butt, would you still do it?" you still do it?" you still do it?" And if they say, "Yes, I love it." Okay, And if they say, "Yes, I love it." Okay, And if they say, "Yes, I love it." Okay, well, then then we got to find a way to well, then then we got to find a way to well, then then we got to find a way to include We got to find a way to include include We got to find a way to include include We got to find a way to include some some runs in there to to let you some some runs in there to to let you some some runs in there to to let you enjoy that cuz I think that's important enjoy that cuz I think that's important enjoy that cuz I think that's important to overall health. to overall health. to overall health. >> Exactly. It's like the question of like, >> Exactly. It's like the question of like, >> Exactly. It's like the question of like, "What would you do uh for a living if "What would you do uh for a living if "What would you do uh for a living if you did if you had all the money in the you did if you had all the money in the you did if you had all the money in the world?" And what tends to come out is a world?" And what tends to come out is a world?" And what tends to come out is a thing that someone would enjoy. thing that someone would enjoy. thing that someone would enjoy. >> Right, right. But the answer you you you >> Right, right. But the answer you you you >> Right, right. But the answer you you you you typically get when I say that and I you typically get when I say that and I you typically get when I say that and I position it like that, position it like that, position it like that, I almost always get the "Well, my friend I almost always get the "Well, my friend I almost always get the "Well, my friend who runs all the time, she's got this who runs all the time, she's got this who runs all the time, she's got this great ass and she great ass and she great ass and she they will always point to that or they they will always point to that or they they will always point to that or they were "Well, I was in the best shape of were "Well, I was in the best shape of were "Well, I was in the best shape of my life when I used to run, you know, my life when I used to run, you know, my life when I used to run, you know, two or three marathons a year and so I two or three marathons a year and so I two or three marathons a year and so I just want to get back to that." And so just want to get back to that." And so just want to get back to that." And so so that you you you're you're you also so that you you you're you're you also so that you you you're you're you also are positioned with this this other are positioned with this this other are positioned with this this other challenge. challenge. challenge. >> what comes you're 100% right cuz what I >> what comes you're 100% right cuz what I >> what comes you're 100% right cuz what I said was a super oversimplification. said was a super oversimplification. said was a super oversimplification. Like would you enjoy doing this if it Like would you enjoy doing this if it Like would you enjoy doing this if it gave you no results? Super gave you no results? Super gave you no results? Super oversimplification because in real life oversimplification because in real life oversimplification because in real life what contributes to whether or not you what contributes to whether or not you what contributes to whether or not you like what you do is like what you do is like what you do is A or one, I enjoy doing it because I A or one, I enjoy doing it because I A or one, I enjoy doing it because I just enjoy doing it. But then it's also just enjoy doing it. But then it's also just enjoy doing it. But then it's also what it does for me which contributes to what it does for me which contributes to what it does for me which contributes to my enjoyment, right? Like my enjoyment, right? Like my enjoyment, right? Like you can fall in love with it an activity you can fall in love with it an activity you can fall in love with it an activity because of how it makes you feel and because of how it makes you feel and because of how it makes you feel and because of how it improves the quality because of how it improves the quality because of how it improves the quality of your life. So you can't necessarily of your life. So you can't necessarily of your life. So you can't necessarily separate the two. 100% separate the two. 100% separate the two. 100% >> Yeah, and as a coach I consider these >> Yeah, and as a coach I consider these >> Yeah, and as a coach I consider these like hot buttons. So if if somebody's like hot buttons. So if if somebody's like hot buttons. So if if somebody's like describes in detail like, you know, like describes in detail like, you know, like describes in detail like, you know, I really love running. I've always I really love running. I've always I really love running. I've always loved, you know, so I know that like loved, you know, so I know that like loved, you know, so I know that like that form of movement is enjoyable for that form of movement is enjoyable for that form of movement is enjoyable for them and I can kind of like start them and I can kind of like start them and I can kind of like start catering, prescribing something that catering, prescribing something that catering, prescribing something that like would actually benefit them cuz I like would actually benefit them cuz I like would actually benefit them cuz I know they're going to keep showing up. know they're going to keep showing up. know they're going to keep showing up. >> No, I had a woman this reminds me of a >> No, I had a woman this reminds me of a >> No, I had a woman this reminds me of a client I had years ago. This woman that client I had years ago. This woman that client I had years ago. This woman that I trained, she was in her at the time I I trained, she was in her at the time I I trained, she was in her at the time I think late 40s. think late 40s. think late 40s. Um and she wanted to hire me because she Um and she wanted to hire me because she Um and she wanted to hire me because she started to get kind of nagging aches and started to get kind of nagging aches and started to get kind of nagging aches and pains from her favorite form of exercise pains from her favorite form of exercise pains from her favorite form of exercise or activity which was dancing. or activity which was dancing. or activity which was dancing. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So she did salsa dancing and I think she >> So she did salsa dancing and I think she >> So she did salsa dancing and I think she did like four days a week. She was did like four days a week. She was did like four days a week. She was really good at it. She did it for years. really good at it. She did it for years. really good at it. She did it for years. It kept her pretty darn fit and she came It kept her pretty darn fit and she came It kept her pretty darn fit and she came to me because she started getting kind to me because she started getting kind to me because she started getting kind of these nagging issues and so she of these nagging issues and so she of these nagging issues and so she really had no interest in strength really had no interest in strength really had no interest in strength training aside from the fact that she training aside from the fact that she training aside from the fact that she heard that strength training could heard that strength training could heard that strength training could prevent some of these aches and pains. prevent some of these aches and pains. prevent some of these aches and pains. And so what I did is we applied strength And so what I did is we applied strength And so what I did is we applied strength training as a way to allow her to training as a way to allow her to training as a way to allow her to continue to do the thing that she loved continue to do the thing that she loved continue to do the thing that she loved so much. And this is why this is such an so much. And this is why this is such an so much. And this is why this is such an important question because if you really important question because if you really important question because if you really enjoy swimming or you really enjoy enjoy swimming or you really enjoy enjoy swimming or you really enjoy cycling or you really enjoy basketball cycling or you really enjoy basketball cycling or you really enjoy basketball or hiking and it's just something you or hiking and it's just something you or hiking and it's just something you really love to do just for the sake of really love to do just for the sake of really love to do just for the sake of doing it, other modalities of exercise doing it, other modalities of exercise doing it, other modalities of exercise can be used and probably should be used can be used and probably should be used can be used and probably should be used to help to help to help or to allow you to continue That's or to allow you to continue That's or to allow you to continue That's right. To help you continue to do the right. To help you continue to do the right. To help you continue to do the thing but it's so important everybody thing but it's so important everybody thing but it's so important everybody and this is a very complex question. It and this is a very complex question. It and this is a very complex question. It sounds very simple and I over simplified sounds very simple and I over simplified sounds very simple and I over simplified it earlier. it earlier. it earlier. But it's such an important question But it's such an important question But it's such an important question because if the thing that you're doing because if the thing that you're doing because if the thing that you're doing for exercise is something that you hate, for exercise is something that you hate, for exercise is something that you hate, that you despise and I know people that you despise and I know people that you despise and I know people listening know exactly what I'm talking listening know exactly what I'm talking listening know exactly what I'm talking about. We've all gone through that thing about. We've all gone through that thing about. We've all gone through that thing where we do that thing cuz we think it's where we do that thing cuz we think it's where we do that thing cuz we think it's good for us but we wake up in the good for us but we wake up in the good for us but we wake up in the morning like I got to go do that morning like I got to go do that morning like I got to go do that workout. I hate it. If you always hate workout. I hate it. If you always hate workout. I hate it. If you always hate it, you're not going to do it. It's just it, you're not going to do it. It's just it, you're not going to do it. It's just not going to work. It's not going to be not going to work. It's not going to be not going to work. It's not going to be consistent. Nobody does something that consistent. Nobody does something that consistent. Nobody does something that they hate every single day they hate every single day they hate every single day for years and years and years unless for years and years and years unless for years and years and years unless they're absolutely forced. So enjoying they're absolutely forced. So enjoying they're absolutely forced. So enjoying it is is a is a bit more complex and so it is is a is a bit more complex and so it is is a is a bit more complex and so we'll get to to some of that stuff but we'll get to to some of that stuff but we'll get to to some of that stuff but it has to be something that you enjoy or it has to be something that you enjoy or it has to be something that you enjoy or you can learn to enjoy. Otherwise this you can learn to enjoy. Otherwise this you can learn to enjoy. Otherwise this isn't going to happen. isn't going to happen. isn't going to happen. >> I I think it's such an important >> I I think it's such an important >> I I think it's such an important question so much so that whatever you question so much so that whatever you question so much so that whatever you answer, you should even question your answer, you should even question your answer, you should even question your own beliefs. own beliefs. own beliefs. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Because I think that at least in my >> Because I think that at least in my >> Because I think that at least in my experience, experience, experience, more than half the people that told me more than half the people that told me more than half the people that told me that this is what they love to do or that this is what they love to do or that this is what they love to do or believe that this is what they should do believe that this is what they should do believe that this is what they should do or wanted to do to get whatever said or wanted to do to get whatever said or wanted to do to get whatever said result, were wrong. result, were wrong. result, were wrong. We're wrong about what they what they We're wrong about what they what they We're wrong about what they what they liked. They they they thought that liked. They they they thought that liked. They they they thought that because they had this relationship with because they had this relationship with because they had this relationship with it. Whether it was a a bad one or it. Whether it was a a bad one or it. Whether it was a a bad one or abusive, where it was a punishment thing abusive, where it was a punishment thing abusive, where it was a punishment thing and they felt cathartic when they when and they felt cathartic when they when and they felt cathartic when they when they beat themselves up in the workout they beat themselves up in the workout they beat themselves up in the workout and therefore they told themselves they and therefore they told themselves they and therefore they told themselves they love to do it or two, they identified love to do it or two, they identified love to do it or two, they identified with a way their body looked at one with a way their body looked at one with a way their body looked at one point in their lives while they were point in their lives while they were point in their lives while they were also doing said modality. Um or they've also doing said modality. Um or they've also doing said modality. Um or they've got a friend who they admire and look up got a friend who they admire and look up got a friend who they admire and look up to and that's how they train. And so to and that's how they train. And so to and that's how they train. And so there's like I mean I can't tell you how there's like I mean I can't tell you how there's like I mean I can't tell you how many times many times many times someone has told me someone has told me someone has told me this is what I enjoy to do or I love to this is what I enjoy to do or I love to this is what I enjoy to do or I love to do that was wrong. do that was wrong. do that was wrong. >> Yeah, and you know what's important >> Yeah, and you know what's important >> Yeah, and you know what's important about about this Adam is cuz someone about about this Adam is cuz someone about about this Adam is cuz someone listening is probably I guarantee listening is probably I guarantee listening is probably I guarantee there's people who are like, I don't there's people who are like, I don't there's people who are like, I don't like anything. like anything. like anything. I don't like any form of physical I don't like any form of physical I don't like any form of physical activity or exercise. So what do I do activity or exercise. So what do I do activity or exercise. So what do I do now? And I'm going to tell you right now now? And I'm going to tell you right now now? And I'm going to tell you right now what you do cuz this is what I did as a what you do cuz this is what I did as a what you do cuz this is what I did as a coach and a trainer. coach and a trainer. coach and a trainer. You figure this out by the way as a You figure this out by the way as a You figure this out by the way as a coach when you train people for a long coach when you train people for a long coach when you train people for a long enough period of time, enough period of time, enough period of time, you start to realize that the most you start to realize that the most you start to realize that the most important thing I can do and I got to important thing I can do and I got to important thing I can do and I got to train people properly. I got to make train people properly. I got to make train people properly. I got to make sure they exercise the right way, don't sure they exercise the right way, don't sure they exercise the right way, don't hurt themselves, you know, do all the hurt themselves, you know, do all the hurt themselves, you know, do all the right stuff. But the most important right stuff. But the most important right stuff. But the most important thing I could do as a coach is make this thing I could do as a coach is make this thing I could do as a coach is make this an enjoyable session every time you show an enjoyable session every time you show an enjoyable session every time you show up. And so there are ways to do this. up. And so there are ways to do this. up. And so there are ways to do this. What does this look like? Well, let's What does this look like? Well, let's What does this look like? Well, let's say you're like, look, I'm going to walk say you're like, look, I'm going to walk say you're like, look, I'm going to walk every day. I'm going to make sure I get, every day. I'm going to make sure I get, every day. I'm going to make sure I get, you know, 12,000 steps a day. That's the you know, 12,000 steps a day. That's the you know, 12,000 steps a day. That's the form of exercise I'm going to start form of exercise I'm going to start form of exercise I'm going to start with. I hate doing it. I hate going with. I hate doing it. I hate going with. I hate doing it. I hate going outside and walking for that that long. outside and walking for that that long. outside and walking for that that long. I hate doing it. How can I make this I hate doing it. How can I make this I hate doing it. How can I make this something I enjoy? I'm going to go with something I enjoy? I'm going to go with something I enjoy? I'm going to go with my friend. And my friend is also my friend. And my friend is also my friend. And my friend is also committed to this and you know, we have committed to this and you know, we have committed to this and you know, we have the best conversations and I get to see the best conversations and I get to see the best conversations and I get to see my friend and hang out with them. So my friend and hang out with them. So my friend and hang out with them. So that's what I'm going to do. Or I'm that's what I'm going to do. Or I'm that's what I'm going to do. Or I'm going to listen to a book while I do it. going to listen to a book while I do it. going to listen to a book while I do it. Or I'm going to go to this gym that has Or I'm going to go to this gym that has Or I'm going to go to this gym that has this great community and the thing I this great community and the thing I this great community and the thing I actually look forward to and the reason actually look forward to and the reason actually look forward to and the reason why I enjoy it is the people that are why I enjoy it is the people that are why I enjoy it is the people that are there. So there are ways to make your there. So there are ways to make your there. So there are ways to make your help yourself enjoy something. And there help yourself enjoy something. And there help yourself enjoy something. And there also are ways to help you to make also are ways to help you to make also are ways to help you to make yourself hate something. Like here's a yourself hate something. Like here's a yourself hate something. Like here's a great way to make you hate something, great way to make you hate something, great way to make you hate something, okay? That you do it so hard that each okay? That you do it so hard that each okay? That you do it so hard that each time you regret that you actually did time you regret that you actually did time you regret that you actually did that workout where you leave and you that workout where you leave and you that workout where you leave and you feel like you're dying. This is a great feel like you're dying. This is a great feel like you're dying. This is a great way to hate working out. And I know way to hate working out. And I know way to hate working out. And I know sometimes people love that. You keep sometimes people love that. You keep sometimes people love that. You keep doing that long enough and you're going doing that long enough and you're going doing that long enough and you're going to hate it. I promise you. If every to hate it. I promise you. If every to hate it. I promise you. If every workout feels like you survived, at some workout feels like you survived, at some workout feels like you survived, at some point you're going to wake up and be point you're going to wake up and be point you're going to wake up and be like, I really don't want to do do And like, I really don't want to do do And like, I really don't want to do do And that's a fast track to a bad that's a fast track to a bad that's a fast track to a bad relationship with exercise. relationship with exercise. relationship with exercise. >> Let me Let me address the the common one >> Let me Let me address the the common one >> Let me Let me address the the common one that you just said because it is common that you just said because it is common that you just said because it is common that you would get a client that would that you would get a client that would that you would get a client that would say something like I don't like say something like I don't like say something like I don't like anything. I don't like any of that. anything. I don't like any of that. anything. I don't like any of that. Um Um Um it's more often if not always it's more often if not always it's more often if not always the person who It's like uh the person who It's like uh the person who It's like uh they've had five jobs that they've tried they've had five jobs that they've tried they've had five jobs that they've tried and none of them paid them. and none of them paid them. and none of them paid them. They went to work for 6 months at this They went to work for 6 months at this They went to work for 6 months at this new job and they got no check and they new job and they got no check and they new job and they got no check and they got no paid and they hated it so they got no paid and they hated it so they got no paid and they hated it so they went to the next job. Same thing. And went to the next job. Same thing. And went to the next job. Same thing. And then so their relationship with that then so their relationship with that then so their relationship with that work or all the all those modalities is work or all the all those modalities is work or all the all those modalities is horrible because the ROI was terrible. horrible because the ROI was terrible. horrible because the ROI was terrible. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Now >> Now >> Now >> That's 100%. >> That's 100%. >> That's 100%. >> if I can show you a way to get And by >> if I can show you a way to get And by >> if I can show you a way to get And by the way, ROI isn't always mirror and and the way, ROI isn't always mirror and and the way, ROI isn't always mirror and and scale and body fat percentage to the scale and body fat percentage to the scale and body fat percentage to the point where you're going. If I can show point where you're going. If I can show point where you're going. If I can show you how just adding a walk for 10 you how just adding a walk for 10 you how just adding a walk for 10 minutes after your meals all of a sudden minutes after your meals all of a sudden minutes after your meals all of a sudden makes your digestion better and you makes your digestion better and you makes your digestion better and you sleep better which then makes your mood sleep better which then makes your mood sleep better which then makes your mood better. If I can connect those dots for better. If I can connect those dots for better. If I can connect those dots for you, a 10-minute walk you, a 10-minute walk you, a 10-minute walk >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I can I can start to enjoy that cuz I I >> I can I can start to enjoy that cuz I I >> I can I can start to enjoy that cuz I I can I can connect the ROI and then I can I can connect the ROI and then I can I can connect the ROI and then I have something to build on. And then if have something to build on. And then if have something to build on. And then if I can show you, hey, if we just did five I can show you, hey, if we just did five I can show you, hey, if we just did five sets of squats in a week sets of squats in a week sets of squats in a week >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> that's it, nothing else >> that's it, nothing else >> that's it, nothing else and I and I show you strength gains cuz and I and I show you strength gains cuz and I and I show you strength gains cuz I balance that out with proper nutrition I balance that out with proper nutrition I balance that out with proper nutrition >> down. >> down. >> down. >> Yeah. Pain goes down, strength goes up >> Yeah. Pain goes down, strength goes up >> Yeah. Pain goes down, strength goes up and you start to build a little bit of a and you start to build a little bit of a and you start to build a little bit of a butt or something and that's all you did butt or something and that's all you did butt or something and that's all you did was five sets of squats all week and was five sets of squats all week and was five sets of squats all week and nothing else and your 10-minute If I can nothing else and your 10-minute If I can nothing else and your 10-minute If I can And then so you start getting this And then so you start getting this And then so you start getting this connection to a return on your connection to a return on your connection to a return on your investment that you go, I kind of do investment that you go, I kind of do investment that you go, I kind of do like this. like this. like this. >> There's also this other point too, Adam, >> There's also this other point too, Adam, >> There's also this other point too, Adam, because you brought up the jobs thing. because you brought up the jobs thing. because you brought up the jobs thing. It's really interesting. Um you see this It's really interesting. Um you see this It's really interesting. Um you see this with athletes. with athletes. with athletes. Athletes who love the sport that they Athletes who love the sport that they Athletes who love the sport that they play, absolutely genuinely love it, who play, absolutely genuinely love it, who play, absolutely genuinely love it, who get to the professional level there's a get to the professional level there's a get to the professional level there's a psychological phenomenon where many of psychological phenomenon where many of psychological phenomenon where many of them stop start not loving what they did them stop start not loving what they did them stop start not loving what they did because now it's almost it's a job. because now it's almost it's a job. because now it's almost it's a job. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> It's [snorts] a job. And so, I know >> It's [snorts] a job. And so, I know >> It's [snorts] a job. And so, I know people have heard this before, and I people have heard this before, and I people have heard this before, and I think this is again an think this is again an think this is again an oversimplification, but there's truth in oversimplification, but there's truth in oversimplification, but there's truth in it, which is there's a difference it, which is there's a difference it, which is there's a difference between I have to work out and I get to between I have to work out and I get to between I have to work out and I get to work out. And [snorts] so, that's an work out. And [snorts] so, that's an work out. And [snorts] so, that's an attitude. I have to go do this thing. attitude. I have to go do this thing. attitude. I have to go do this thing. Well, if you keep going at it with that Well, if you keep going at it with that Well, if you keep going at it with that I have to, where you feel like you're I have to, where you feel like you're I have to, where you feel like you're forced, you're moving towards a forced, you're moving towards a forced, you're moving towards a relationship where you're going to relationship where you're going to relationship where you're going to eventually quit it. Versus I get to go eventually quit it. Versus I get to go eventually quit it. Versus I get to go do this thing, my body moves, I get to do this thing, my body moves, I get to do this thing, my body moves, I get to go and express itself in a different go and express itself in a different go and express itself in a different way. Just like a job. Oh, I have to work way. Just like a job. Oh, I have to work way. Just like a job. Oh, I have to work cuz I got to pay these bills versus man, cuz I got to pay these bills versus man, cuz I got to pay these bills versus man, I get to I get to go to work. It's a I get to I get to go to work. It's a I get to I get to go to work. It's a different mentality completely. But, to different mentality completely. But, to different mentality completely. But, to to point to go kind of the direction you to point to go kind of the direction you to point to go kind of the direction you are, are, are, here's part of what we're talking about, here's part of what we're talking about, here's part of what we're talking about, which is how effective is this method which is how effective is this method which is how effective is this method for your goal? for your goal? for your goal? And now, how do you determine And now, how do you determine And now, how do you determine effectiveness? Here's the Here's the way effectiveness? Here's the Here's the way effectiveness? Here's the Here's the way you determine it. It's not how great how you determine it. It's not how great how you determine it. It's not how great how fast it gets you to your goals. It's not fast it gets you to your goals. It's not fast it gets you to your goals. It's not that. It's how much time do you invest that. It's how much time do you invest that. It's how much time do you invest versus how much you get out? Yes, right. versus how much you get out? Yes, right. versus how much you get out? Yes, right. That's effectiveness, because I can give That's effectiveness, because I can give That's effectiveness, because I can give you a workout that gives you great you a workout that gives you great you a workout that gives you great results that requires, you know, 40 results that requires, you know, 40 results that requires, you know, 40 hours a week of investment, and I don't hours a week of investment, and I don't hours a week of investment, and I don't care how great the results are, you're care how great the results are, you're care how great the results are, you're not going to do it. You're not going to not going to do it. You're not going to not going to do it. You're not going to work out 40 hours a week. But, if I can work out 40 hours a week. But, if I can work out 40 hours a week. But, if I can show you a form of exercise where you show you a form of exercise where you show you a form of exercise where you can invest very little time in can invest very little time in can invest very little time in comparison to the results that you get, comparison to the results that you get, comparison to the results that you get, a lot of people, this is something that a lot of people, this is something that a lot of people, this is something that people really like, and this contributes people really like, and this contributes people really like, and this contributes a lot to the fact that they enjoy it. a lot to the fact that they enjoy it. a lot to the fact that they enjoy it. One form of exercise does this for a lot One form of exercise does this for a lot One form of exercise does this for a lot of different goals, and that's strength of different goals, and that's strength of different goals, and that's strength training. What's unique about strength training. What's unique about strength training. What's unique about strength training? Yes, it builds muscle, it training? Yes, it builds muscle, it training? Yes, it builds muscle, it builds strength, but it's unique in the builds strength, but it's unique in the builds strength, but it's unique in the sense that you don't need a lot of it to sense that you don't need a lot of it to sense that you don't need a lot of it to get really good results. get really good results. get really good results. When you're training with other When you're training with other When you're training with other modalities, you tend to need to invest a modalities, you tend to need to invest a modalities, you tend to need to invest a lot more time to get something back from lot more time to get something back from lot more time to get something back from it. Like, if I'm just trying to burn it. Like, if I'm just trying to burn it. Like, if I'm just trying to burn calories calories calories or build endurance, I got to do a lot to or build endurance, I got to do a lot to or build endurance, I got to do a lot to really build lots of endurance. Strength really build lots of endurance. Strength really build lots of endurance. Strength training, average person does one day a training, average person does one day a training, average person does one day a week of strength training, you're going week of strength training, you're going week of strength training, you're going to see significant strength gains for a to see significant strength gains for a to see significant strength gains for a while. while. while. >> I'll back it off even more, like I said. >> I'll back it off even more, like I said. >> I'll back it off even more, like I said. All if all somebody did, if you met All if all somebody did, if you met All if all somebody did, if you met somebody somebody somebody >> once a week >> once a week >> once a week >> who once a week did five sets of squats >> who once a week did five sets of squats >> who once a week did five sets of squats and nothing else, but they never missed. and nothing else, but they never missed. and nothing else, but they never missed. Once a week they always do five sets of Once a week they always do five sets of Once a week they always do five sets of squats. Over years, how good that person squats. Over years, how good that person squats. Over years, how good that person would get at that at that movement and would get at that at that movement and would get at that at that movement and the the benefits that come from knowing the the benefits that come from knowing the the benefits that come from knowing how to do a proper good squat and the how to do a proper good squat and the how to do a proper good squat and the strength gains over the time and what strength gains over the time and what strength gains over the time and what that would do to your body, to your that would do to your body, to your that would do to your body, to your mobility, to your energy, to your mobility, to your energy, to your mobility, to your energy, to your metabolism. I mean, there there's such a metabolism. I mean, there there's such a metabolism. I mean, there there's such a huge ROI on that. huge ROI on that. huge ROI on that. >> I have a guy that I'm training right >> I have a guy that I'm training right >> I have a guy that I'm training right now, good friend of mine, very smart now, good friend of mine, very smart now, good friend of mine, very smart guy, highly educated, works in the guy, highly educated, works in the guy, highly educated, works in the medical field. He's always been a medical field. He's always been a medical field. He's always been a cyclist, he's always been a runner. He's cyclist, he's always been a runner. He's cyclist, he's always been a runner. He's always tried to stay fit and I started always tried to stay fit and I started always tried to stay fit and I started training him, training him, training him, you know, we start working out once a you know, we start working out once a you know, we start working out once a week together. And I'm explaining to him week together. And I'm explaining to him week together. And I'm explaining to him how exercise really works, how it we how exercise really works, how it we how exercise really works, how it we send this signal, we're looking for send this signal, we're looking for send this signal, we're looking for adaptation. You're already an ER doc, adaptation. You're already an ER doc, adaptation. You're already an ER doc, you've got lot lots of stress, your you've got lot lots of stress, your you've got lot lots of stress, your sleep is crap half the time. So, we sleep is crap half the time. So, we sleep is crap half the time. So, we can't apply too much stress. So, I'm can't apply too much stress. So, I'm can't apply too much stress. So, I'm telling him all this stuff. Logically, telling him all this stuff. Logically, telling him all this stuff. Logically, he gets it. He's a smart guy. And I can he gets it. He's a smart guy. And I can he gets it. He's a smart guy. And I can communicate it very well, right? So, communicate it very well, right? So, communicate it very well, right? So, I've been doing this for a long time. I've been doing this for a long time. I've been doing this for a long time. So, he gets it, but as we're training, So, he gets it, but as we're training, So, he gets it, but as we're training, you could tell he's like, wait, maybe I you could tell he's like, wait, maybe I you could tell he's like, wait, maybe I should go harder. Like, are you sure I should go harder. Like, are you sure I should go harder. Like, are you sure I shouldn't go hard? So, should I do more shouldn't go hard? So, should I do more shouldn't go hard? So, should I do more on my off days? And I'm like, listen, on my off days? And I'm like, listen, on my off days? And I'm like, listen, if you're getting stronger in here, if you're getting stronger in here, if you're getting stronger in here, which you are, it's working. And so, which you are, it's working. And so, which you are, it's working. And so, I've been working with this guy now for I've been working with this guy now for I've been working with this guy now for eight weeks and he come and he comes in eight weeks and he come and he comes in eight weeks and he come and he comes in now and he's like, you know what? I now and he's like, you know what? I now and he's like, you know what? I heard you, I believed you heard you, I believed you heard you, I believed you intellectually, but I didn't feel the intellectually, but I didn't feel the intellectually, but I didn't feel the belief cuz I didn't experience it. He belief cuz I didn't experience it. He belief cuz I didn't experience it. He goes, this is the craziest thing. He goes, this is the craziest thing. He goes, this is the craziest thing. He goes, I look I've never looked forward goes, I look I've never looked forward goes, I look I've never looked forward to working out. I look forward to it now to working out. I look forward to it now to working out. I look forward to it now cuz I feel good. I don't feel like I got cuz I feel good. I don't feel like I got cuz I feel good. I don't feel like I got the crap beat out of me. I'm getting the crap beat out of me. I'm getting the crap beat out of me. I'm getting stronger. It almost feels like I'm doing stronger. It almost feels like I'm doing stronger. It almost feels like I'm doing nothing and my body's responding. Now, nothing and my body's responding. Now, nothing and my body's responding. Now, it feels like nothing cuz in comparison it feels like nothing cuz in comparison it feels like nothing cuz in comparison to how he used to train himself, to how he used to train himself, to how he used to train himself, it was like he he would slam himself it was like he he would slam himself it was like he he would slam himself into the ground. Now, he's training into the ground. Now, he's training into the ground. Now, he's training appropriately, he's getting a huge ROI appropriately, he's getting a huge ROI appropriately, he's getting a huge ROI for the investment that he's putting in. for the investment that he's putting in. for the investment that he's putting in. And guess what's happening with the his And guess what's happening with the his And guess what's happening with the his relationship with it? He loves it. He relationship with it? He loves it. He relationship with it? He loves it. He says that our sessions once a week, and says that our sessions once a week, and says that our sessions once a week, and this is a very busy guy, is the this is a very busy guy, is the this is a very busy guy, is the highlight of his week. highlight of his week. highlight of his week. Tell me what that's doing to his Tell me what that's doing to his Tell me what that's doing to his relationship with fitness. And so, a big relationship with fitness. And so, a big relationship with fitness. And so, a big factor that you need to consider with factor that you need to consider with factor that you need to consider with your consistency, with your workout, your consistency, with your workout, your consistency, with your workout, picking the right workout, is how picking the right workout, is how picking the right workout, is how effective is this effective is this effective is this for the goal that I'm after? And if your for the goal that I'm after? And if your for the goal that I'm after? And if your goal is fat loss, or muscle gain, or goal is fat loss, or muscle gain, or goal is fat loss, or muscle gain, or strength, or changing how you look, or strength, or changing how you look, or strength, or changing how you look, or mobility, mobility, mobility, one form of exercise gives you the most one form of exercise gives you the most one form of exercise gives you the most ROI, and that's strength training. And ROI, and that's strength training. And ROI, and that's strength training. And for most people, it looks like once a for most people, it looks like once a for most people, it looks like once a week, or twice a week. That's it. And week, or twice a week. That's it. And week, or twice a week. That's it. And that's just something to consider. that's just something to consider. that's just something to consider. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh and I want people to understand that >> Uh and I want people to understand that >> Uh and I want people to understand that because that plays a big role. And then because that plays a big role. And then because that plays a big role. And then lastly, you got to you also got to lastly, you got to you also got to lastly, you got to you also got to consider this, what is the most consider this, what is the most consider this, what is the most appropriate for me in my life? appropriate for me in my life? appropriate for me in my life? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It's got to be appropriate for me in my >> It's got to be appropriate for me in my >> It's got to be appropriate for me in my life. life. life. >> Long-term, too. Not just uh in this >> Long-term, too. Not just uh in this >> Long-term, too. Not just uh in this sprint six-month window until the sprint six-month window until the sprint six-month window until the wedding, or this three-month summer, or wedding, or this three-month summer, or wedding, or this three-month summer, or this moment of time. It's what is most this moment of time. It's what is most this moment of time. It's what is most appropriate that I could do this appropriate that I could do this appropriate that I could do this forever. forever. forever. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Like that this is something I can build >> Like that this is something I can build >> Like that this is something I can build into my life. It'll be a part of my life into my life. It'll be a part of my life into my life. It'll be a part of my life forever. Back to your point of one to forever. Back to your point of one to forever. Back to your point of one to two times a week is because it's two times a week is because it's two times a week is because it's realistic that no matter where where realistic that no matter where where realistic that no matter where where what time of your life uh you are at, or what time of your life uh you are at, or what time of your life uh you are at, or what phase of your life you're in, it what phase of your life you're in, it what phase of your life you're in, it that's an appropriate commitment for that's an appropriate commitment for that's an appropriate commitment for most people, which is why you want to most people, which is why you want to most people, which is why you want to start there. And we can always build up start there. And we can always build up start there. And we can always build up as you fall in love with this, and you as you fall in love with this, and you as you fall in love with this, and you tell me this tell me this tell me this >> is the highlight of my week. >> is the highlight of my week. >> is the highlight of my week. >> on is the enjoyment, back to the >> on is the enjoyment, back to the >> on is the enjoyment, back to the beginning. It's really And that's what beginning. It's really And that's what beginning. It's really And that's what >> is such an individual experience, and >> is such an individual experience, and >> is such an individual experience, and something that we can't just be like, something that we can't just be like, something that we can't just be like, "Oh, here's the formula. Here's the "Oh, here's the formula. Here's the "Oh, here's the formula. Here's the exact workout that's probably best for exact workout that's probably best for exact workout that's probably best for the general population." It really isn't the general population." It really isn't the general population." It really isn't about that. It's about really being about that. It's about really being about that. It's about really being honest with yourself, and having that honest with yourself, and having that honest with yourself, and having that kind of inventory uh to where, you know, kind of inventory uh to where, you know, kind of inventory uh to where, you know, you you understand your own behaviors, you you understand your own behaviors, you you understand your own behaviors, and you can like really assess, like is and you can like really assess, like is and you can like really assess, like is this too much? Is this something I can this too much? Is this something I can this too much? Is this something I can just get up and do right now, and then just get up and do right now, and then just get up and do right now, and then just, you know, work on your mentality just, you know, work on your mentality just, you know, work on your mentality towards it. towards it. towards it. >> And and understand that this is a >> And and understand that this is a >> And and understand that this is a relationship and going to the gym once relationship and going to the gym once relationship and going to the gym once or twice, going on one or two dates is or twice, going on one or two dates is or twice, going on one or two dates is not going to build a marriage, okay? not going to build a marriage, okay? not going to build a marriage, okay? It's going to a healthy marriage you it It's going to a healthy marriage you it It's going to a healthy marriage you it takes time. takes time. takes time. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> You have to work on this and so you >> You have to work on this and so you >> You have to work on this and so you might be listening to this and you might might be listening to this and you might might be listening to this and you might be the person who says like I don't like be the person who says like I don't like be the person who says like I don't like any more guys I hate it and then you any more guys I hate it and then you any more guys I hate it and then you hear this advice and then you go to the hear this advice and then you go to the hear this advice and then you go to the gym one time like we say gym one time like we say gym one time like we say >> I still hate it. >> I still hate it. >> I still hate it. >> And you're like I still hate it. >> And you're like I still hate it. >> And you're like I still hate it. [laughter] It's like cool you went on [laughter] It's like cool you went on [laughter] It's like cool you went on one date, you know what I'm saying? Like one date, you know what I'm saying? Like one date, you know what I'm saying? Like court this for a while and take it slow court this for a while and take it slow court this for a while and take it slow and learn about it and start to connect and learn about it and start to connect and learn about it and start to connect the dots and then start to change your the dots and then start to change your the dots and then start to change your language and as and then over time that language and as and then over time that language and as and then over time that will that shift will happen. To expect will that shift will happen. To expect will that shift will happen. To expect that to happen in one day that all of a that to happen in one day that all of a that to happen in one day that all of a sudden you go from the person who said I sudden you go from the person who said I sudden you go from the person who said I hate this to oh I get it now that oh hate this to oh I get it now that oh hate this to oh I get it now that oh this is all I had to do now I love it. this is all I had to do now I love it. this is all I had to do now I love it. It's like no you got to it takes time to It's like no you got to it takes time to It's like no you got to it takes time to build that relationship. build that relationship. build that relationship. >> take time and again this is kind of like >> take time and again this is kind of like >> take time and again this is kind of like we're we're we're speaking up here, we're we're we're speaking up here, we're we're we're speaking up here, right? We're like a thousand foot view, right? We're like a thousand foot view, right? We're like a thousand foot view, we're looking down, we're kind of giving we're looking down, we're kind of giving we're looking down, we're kind of giving this general advice. People I'm sure this general advice. People I'm sure this general advice. People I'm sure like give me some specifics. What does like give me some specifics. What does like give me some specifics. What does this look like? What does What would this look like? What does What would this look like? What does What would this look like for most people? So I'm this look like for most people? So I'm this look like for most people? So I'm going to give some general going to give some general going to give some general kind of what it would look like for most kind of what it would look like for most kind of what it would look like for most people. Not everybody people. Not everybody people. Not everybody but for most people what this would but for most people what this would but for most people what this would probably look like is this. This is what probably look like is this. This is what probably look like is this. This is what this is what a lifestyle of this is what a lifestyle of this is what a lifestyle of I enjoy doing it, that it's effective I enjoy doing it, that it's effective I enjoy doing it, that it's effective for what I'm looking for what most for what I'm looking for what most for what I'm looking for what most people are looking for is overall health people are looking for is overall health people are looking for is overall health and fitness and improvement in quality and fitness and improvement in quality and fitness and improvement in quality of life and that it's appropriate for of life and that it's appropriate for of life and that it's appropriate for people and their life. So this is I'm people and their life. So this is I'm people and their life. So this is I'm going to speak very generally. This is going to speak very generally. This is going to speak very generally. This is probably what it's going to look like. probably what it's going to look like. probably what it's going to look like. One or two days a week of strength One or two days a week of strength One or two days a week of strength training, okay? Full body. So that's training, okay? Full body. So that's training, okay? Full body. So that's what it's going to look like. You're what it's going to look like. You're what it's going to look like. You're going to walk daily to the tune of about going to walk daily to the tune of about going to walk daily to the tune of about 8,000 steps a day and once a week you 8,000 steps a day and once a week you 8,000 steps a day and once a week you play something. Once a week you think to play something. Once a week you think to play something. Once a week you think to yourself what's a fun physical thing I yourself what's a fun physical thing I yourself what's a fun physical thing I can go do once a week right now. And I can go do once a week right now. And I can go do once a week right now. And I don't care what it is. I don't care if don't care what it is. I don't care if don't care what it is. I don't care if you go to the park and you throw the you go to the park and you throw the you go to the park and you throw the frisbee. I don't care if you go on a frisbee. I don't care if you go on a frisbee. I don't care if you go on a hike with your wife. I don't care if you hike with your wife. I don't care if you hike with your wife. I don't care if you go swim in a lake. But that play part go swim in a lake. But that play part go swim in a lake. But that play part once a week I think is so important for once a week I think is so important for once a week I think is so important for people. people. people. And and generally what it's going to And and generally what it's going to And and generally what it's going to look like. And if you did that, if look like. And if you did that, if look like. And if you did that, if everybody listening did that everybody listening did that everybody listening did that consistently over years and years and consistently over years and years and consistently over years and years and years, everybody would look fit and years, everybody would look fit and years, everybody would look fit and healthy and they'd be very satisfied healthy and they'd be very satisfied healthy and they'd be very satisfied with the results. with the results. with the results. >> And what happens most times is within >> And what happens most times is within >> And what happens most times is within months, uh, months, uh, months, uh, that person gives the feedback that your that person gives the feedback that your that person gives the feedback that your buddy gave back, which is this becomes buddy gave back, which is this becomes buddy gave back, which is this becomes the highlight, I now love it, I now like the highlight, I now love it, I now like the highlight, I now love it, I now like it, and then you can start to slowly it, and then you can start to slowly it, and then you can start to slowly build upon that. build upon that. build upon that. >> You know, it's so funny, too, cuz uh, >> You know, it's so funny, too, cuz uh, >> You know, it's so funny, too, cuz uh, you know, we've done this podcast now you know, we've done this podcast now you know, we've done this podcast now for a long time. I've been speaking of for a long time. I've been speaking of for a long time. I've been speaking of fitness forever, but I stopped training fitness forever, but I stopped training fitness forever, but I stopped training people for a long time. people for a long time. people for a long time. And what you don't realize, uh, and I And what you don't realize, uh, and I And what you don't realize, uh, and I think I don't remember one of you guys think I don't remember one of you guys think I don't remember one of you guys communicated this to me a while ago, is communicated this to me a while ago, is communicated this to me a while ago, is you start to forget certain things you start to forget certain things you start to forget certain things because you're not training people. I'm because you're not training people. I'm because you're not training people. I'm just just just uh, you know, communicating this. uh, you know, communicating this. uh, you know, communicating this. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> And uh, it's all coming back to me. And >> And uh, it's all coming back to me. And >> And uh, it's all coming back to me. And as I'm training my friend, I'm as I'm training my friend, I'm as I'm training my friend, I'm remembering to really take mental note remembering to really take mental note remembering to really take mental note of the weight that he's lifting because of the weight that he's lifting because of the weight that he's lifting because I know what's going to happen. I know I know what's going to happen. I know I know what's going to happen. I know what's going to happen. I know he's what's going to happen. I know he's what's going to happen. I know he's going to come to me in 4 weeks and be going to come to me in 4 weeks and be going to come to me in 4 weeks and be like, like, like, >> We're not working hard >> We're not working hard >> We're not working hard >> Yeah, I feel like we're not working out >> Yeah, I feel like we're not working out >> Yeah, I feel like we're not working out hard enough. hard enough. hard enough. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so that actually happened. He's >> And so that actually happened. He's >> And so that actually happened. He's like, I feel like we're not working out like, I feel like we're not working out like, I feel like we're not working out hard enough. I'm like, do you know what hard enough. I'm like, do you know what hard enough. I'm like, do you know what you started with on bench press, you you started with on bench press, you you started with on bench press, you know, 5 weeks ago? And I show him the know, 5 weeks ago? And I show him the know, 5 weeks ago? And I show him the weight. I'm like, and look what you're weight. I'm like, and look what you're weight. I'm like, and look what you're lifting now. He's like, lifting now. He's like, lifting now. He's like, That's 40 lb heavier. That's 40 lb heavier. That's 40 lb heavier. >> It's easier. >> It's easier. >> It's easier. >> I added 40 lb. I'm like, yeah, dude, you >> I added 40 lb. I'm like, yeah, dude, you >> I added 40 lb. I'm like, yeah, dude, you added 40 lb to your bench press from added 40 lb to your bench press from added 40 lb to your bench press from >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> Isn't that crazy? Because he forgot they >> Isn't that crazy? Because he forgot they >> Isn't that crazy? Because he forgot they forget. They forget what it was just forget. They forget what it was just forget. They forget what it was just like like like >> think they just hit a wall that I'm not >> think they just hit a wall that I'm not >> think they just hit a wall that I'm not still progressing? still progressing? still progressing? >> then I And then I waited for the second >> then I And then I waited for the second >> then I And then I waited for the second thing. It's just, God, it's so thing. It's just, God, it's so thing. It's just, God, it's so predictable. I waited for the second predictable. I waited for the second predictable. I waited for the second thing. He said, I think just happened. thing. He said, I think just happened. thing. He said, I think just happened. He told me, he's like, man, you know, He told me, he's like, man, you know, He told me, he's like, man, you know, Saturday I'll see you. I want you to Saturday I'll see you. I want you to Saturday I'll see you. I want you to train me really hard. I'm like, all train me really hard. I'm like, all train me really hard. I'm like, all right, dude, I'm going to I'll train you right, dude, I'm going to I'll train you right, dude, I'm going to I'll train you hard, but only if you're rested. You hard, but only if you're rested. You hard, but only if you're rested. You know, we're having that conversation. know, we're having that conversation. know, we're having that conversation. And I'm like, you know what's going to And I'm like, you know what's going to And I'm like, you know what's going to happen? At some point he's going to come happen? At some point he's going to come happen? At some point he's going to come in in in and he's going to tell me, dude, a and he's going to tell me, dude, a and he's going to tell me, dude, a friend ran into me and told me I looked friend ran into me and told me I looked friend ran into me and told me I looked like I [laughter] like I [laughter] like I [laughter] And sure enough, he comes in. He's like, And sure enough, he comes in. He's like, And sure enough, he comes in. He's like, dude, my buddy came up to me and hadn't dude, my buddy came up to me and hadn't dude, my buddy came up to me and hadn't seen him for like a few months. He's seen him for like a few months. He's seen him for like a few months. He's like, bro, what have you been doing? You like, bro, what have you been doing? You like, bro, what have you been doing? You look like He's like, so I think this is look like He's like, so I think this is look like He's like, so I think this is what I Yeah, it's just working, bro. what I Yeah, it's just working, bro. what I Yeah, it's just working, bro. >> [laughter] >> It's so much fun. >> It's so much fun. >> And you guys are working out once a >> And you guys are working out once a >> And you guys are working out once a week. Is he week. Is he week. Is he Is he asking you any stuff Is he asking you any stuff Is he asking you any stuff nutritionally, too, or is he just nutritionally, too, or is he just nutritionally, too, or is he just >> Everything, cuz he's a he's a really >> Everything, cuz he's a he's a really >> Everything, cuz he's a he's a really One of my favorite types of people to One of my favorite types of people to One of my favorite types of people to train are like people who who are either train are like people who who are either train are like people who who are either medical field or in that kind of in that medical field or in that kind of in that medical field or in that kind of in that kind of field who like to ask lots of kind of field who like to ask lots of kind of field who like to ask lots of questions cuz it like gets me questions cuz it like gets me questions cuz it like gets me >> Yeah, yeah, of course. >> Yeah, yeah, of course. >> Yeah, yeah, of course. >> going. >> going. >> going. >> Scratch that itch for you. >> Scratch that itch for you. >> Scratch that itch for you. >> Yeah, dude. We have these really, really >> Yeah, dude. We have these really, really >> Yeah, dude. We have these really, really great conver- And of course, he's an ER great conver- And of course, he's an ER great conver- And of course, he's an ER doc, so I ask him, you know, about work doc, so I ask him, you know, about work doc, so I ask him, you know, about work all the time. He comes back, tells me all the time. He comes back, tells me all the time. He comes back, tells me the craziest stories. [laughter] the craziest stories. [laughter] the craziest stories. [laughter] I'm like, "Oh my god, that's crazy, I'm like, "Oh my god, that's crazy, I'm like, "Oh my god, that's crazy, dude." dude." dude." >> Cars find their way in. >> Cars find their way in. >> Cars find their way in. >> Bro, I don't know how they stay calm >> Bro, I don't know how they stay calm >> Bro, I don't know how they stay calm during half the stuff. He's He was during half the stuff. He's He was during half the stuff. He's He was telling me I'm not going to go into telling me I'm not going to go into telling me I'm not going to go into details, but people come in just He's details, but people come in just He's details, but people come in just He's And he's got to be calm, like, and just And he's got to be calm, like, and just And he's got to be calm, like, and just >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> make sure this person doesn't die. I'm >> make sure this person doesn't die. I'm >> make sure this person doesn't die. I'm like, "Dude, I can't imagine." like, "Dude, I can't imagine." like, "Dude, I can't imagine." >> I I did an ER nurse for a for a long >> I I did an ER nurse for a for a long >> I I did an ER nurse for a for a long time, and I had to time, and I had to time, and I had to stop asking her stories cuz it would stop asking her stories cuz it would stop asking her stories cuz it would give me anxiety at night. I'm like, "I give me anxiety at night. I'm like, "I give me anxiety at night. I'm like, "I don't know how you come home from a don't know how you come home from a don't know how you come home from a night or a day like that and like night or a day like that and like night or a day like that and like >> They have to offload it, so they're not >> They have to offload it, so they're not >> They have to offload it, so they're not holding onto it. I know I had to go holding onto it. I know I had to go holding onto it. I know I had to go through that too. through that too. through that too. >> Dude, my sister-in-law's a nurse, and >> Dude, my sister-in-law's a nurse, and >> Dude, my sister-in-law's a nurse, and she works in the ER, but she works in she works in the ER, but she works in she works in the ER, but she works in the delivery, right? And she was the delivery, right? And she was the delivery, right? And she was She told me a story that they pushed the She told me a story that they pushed the She told me a story that they pushed the baby back. She said I had to push the baby back. She said I had to push the baby back. She said I had to push the baby back inside cuz the way the baby baby back inside cuz the way the baby baby back inside cuz the way the baby was coming out. was coming out. was coming out. >> Oh, yeah, to turn. >> Oh, yeah, to turn. >> Oh, yeah, to turn. >> I'm like, "Oh my god, imagine that >> I'm like, "Oh my god, imagine that >> I'm like, "Oh my god, imagine that you're the mom." And you're like, you're the mom." And you're like, you're the mom." And you're like, "You're pushing so hard. You're like, "You're pushing so hard. You're like, "You're pushing so hard. You're like, it's almost out. We got to push the baby it's almost out. We got to push the baby it's almost out. 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Back to the show. discount. Back to the show. Anyway, I got a nutrition tip for people Anyway, I got a nutrition tip for people Anyway, I got a nutrition tip for people that's really simple. Let's hear it. So, that's really simple. Let's hear it. So, that's really simple. Let's hear it. So, you know, easy way to add protein and a you know, easy way to add protein and a you know, easy way to add protein and a little extra calories if you want to do little extra calories if you want to do little extra calories if you want to do a really clean bulk. This is a super a really clean bulk. This is a super a really clean bulk. This is a super easy way to do it. easy way to do it. easy way to do it. And I was just talking with Doug earlier And I was just talking with Doug earlier And I was just talking with Doug earlier cuz I was eating the Paleo Valley meat cuz I was eating the Paleo Valley meat cuz I was eating the Paleo Valley meat sticks. sticks. sticks. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Each meat stick is about 6 g of protein, >> Each meat stick is about 6 g of protein, >> Each meat stick is about 6 g of protein, 70 calories on average. 70 calories on average. 70 calories on average. If you added four sticks a day, If you added four sticks a day, If you added four sticks a day, so in between meals, you could have it, so in between meals, you could have it, so in between meals, you could have it, you know, you know, could have it before you know, you know, could have it before you know, you know, could have it before breakfast or with breakfast and between breakfast or with breakfast and between breakfast or with breakfast and between breakfast and lunch. breakfast and lunch. breakfast and lunch. >> at once. >> at once. >> at once. >> Or all at once, but four >> Or all at once, but four >> Or all at once, but four >> That's my move though. >> That's my move though. >> That's my move though. >> have four a day, that's easy. 24 g of >> have four a day, that's easy. 24 g of >> have four a day, that's easy. 24 g of protein from what's pretty close to protein from what's pretty close to protein from what's pretty close to whole food whole food whole food and 280 calories right there. Very, very and 280 calories right there. Very, very and 280 calories right there. Very, very easy. easy. easy. >> good macros. >> good macros. >> good macros. >> That's really good, dude. It's grass-fed >> That's really good, dude. It's grass-fed >> That's really good, dude. It's grass-fed meat or chicken or turkey, whatever you meat or chicken or turkey, whatever you meat or chicken or turkey, whatever you like. like. like. And it's 24 g of protein, 280 g And it's 24 g of protein, 280 g And it's 24 g of protein, 280 g calories, right? Four sticks a day. calories, right? Four sticks a day. calories, right? Four sticks a day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Super easy and they can go anywhere with >> Super easy and they can go anywhere with >> Super easy and they can go anywhere with you. you. you. >> Uh those are probably I'd say between >> Uh those are probably I'd say between >> Uh those are probably I'd say between that I know with Paleo Valley you also that I know with Paleo Valley you also that I know with Paleo Valley you also had the the the the donut had the the the the donut had the the the the donut flavor flavor flavor >> Oh, they're they're >> Oh, they're they're >> Oh, they're they're >> the protein that between those two I'd >> the protein that between those two I'd >> the protein that between those two I'd say those are the two like say those are the two like say those are the two like >> I forgot about that. >> I forgot about that. >> I forgot about that. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, they're chocolate? >> Oh, they're chocolate? >> Oh, they're chocolate? >> delicious thing yeah. >> delicious thing yeah. >> delicious thing yeah. >> Oh my god. What engineering magic did >> Oh my god. What engineering magic did >> Oh my god. What engineering magic did they do? they do? they do? >> I was I was late to the party. I >> I was I was late to the party. I >> I was I was late to the party. I remember when you when you were you were remember when you when you were you were remember when you when you were you were touting touting touting you were touting it so long. I mean what you were touting it so long. I mean what you were touting it so long. I mean what I loved about that powder was that you I loved about that powder was that you I loved about that powder was that you could I can do four scoops of it. could I can do four scoops of it. could I can do four scoops of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it just digests so so easy. >> And it just digests so so easy. >> And it just digests so so easy. >> Where I'm I have that upper limit with >> Where I'm I have that upper limit with >> Where I'm I have that upper limit with whey or any dairy product. I can I can whey or any dairy product. I can I can whey or any dairy product. I can I can get probably 40 g, 35, 40 g in and I'm get probably 40 g, 35, 40 g in and I'm get probably 40 g, 35, 40 g in and I'm okay. I start pushing 60 and above and okay. I start pushing 60 and above and okay. I start pushing 60 and above and it's like I can feel bubbly guts from it's like I can feel bubbly guts from it's like I can feel bubbly guts from it. Where that the Paleo Valley I can it. Where that the Paleo Valley I can it. Where that the Paleo Valley I can with that bone broth I can have a ton of with that bone broth I can have a ton of with that bone broth I can have a ton of protein and be totally fine. protein and be totally fine. protein and be totally fine. >> And it's easy to take down. >> And it's easy to take down. >> And it's easy to take down. >> You know what I want to know, Adam, is >> You know what I want to know, Adam, is >> You know what I want to know, Adam, is the origin of clowns. I heard earlier the origin of clowns. I heard earlier the origin of clowns. I heard earlier >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I heard Justin say >> I heard Justin say >> I heard Justin say >> It's like he's shoehorning >> It's like he's shoehorning >> It's like he's shoehorning >> was was about to bring it up off air and >> was was about to bring it up off air and >> was was about to bring it up off air and I'm like how dare you? That's a podcast I'm like how dare you? That's a podcast I'm like how dare you? That's a podcast conversation. conversation. conversation. I want to hear about this, dude. I want to hear about this, dude. I want to hear about this, dude. >> I listen to weird podcasts. So I'm going >> I listen to weird podcasts. So I'm going >> I listen to weird podcasts. So I'm going to to to >> a podcast conversation? >> a podcast conversation? >> a podcast conversation? >> a podcast conversation. >> a podcast conversation. >> a podcast conversation. >> guess what the origin was? Can we try to >> guess what the origin was? Can we try to >> guess what the origin was? Can we try to guess? guess? guess? >> ahead. >> ahead. >> ahead. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah, like what part of the world and >> Yeah, like what part of the world and >> Yeah, like what part of the world and then like yeah. then like yeah. then like yeah. >> What they look like cuz this is like >> What they look like cuz this is like >> What they look like cuz this is like archetype stuff. Yeah. archetype stuff. Yeah. archetype stuff. Yeah. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh, I bet that's has it totally evolved >> Oh, I bet that's has it totally evolved >> Oh, I bet that's has it totally evolved into into into >> I'm going to have a >> I'm going to have a >> I'm going to have a >> I mean it's not it's not it's not circus >> I mean it's not it's not it's not circus >> I mean it's not it's not it's not circus related. related. related. >> Wait. Yeah, so that so >> Wait. Yeah, so that so >> Wait. Yeah, so that so >> That's the first thing I go to is >> That's the first thing I go to is >> That's the first thing I go to is circus. circus. circus. >> I would I Okay, I'm going to guess I'm going to guess two guesses, either I'm going to guess two guesses, either it started from court jesters it started from court jesters it started from court jesters >> Oh, that far back? >> Oh, that far back? >> Oh, that far back? >> where where kings had to have someone to >> where where kings had to have someone to >> where where kings had to have someone to make them laugh or it originated in make them laugh or it originated in make them laugh or it originated in Italy. And the reason why I say Italy is Italy. And the reason why I say Italy is Italy. And the reason why I say Italy is because the circus originated in Italy. because the circus originated in Italy. because the circus originated in Italy. Actual circus. Actual circus. Actual circus. >> a what has a what has an older origin, >> a what has a what has an older origin, >> a what has a what has an older origin, uh circus or rodeo? uh circus or rodeo? uh circus or rodeo? >> Circus is old. >> Circus is old. >> Circus is old. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Yeah, that's good. >> I rodeo's got to be old, too. >> I rodeo's got to be old, too. >> I rodeo's got to be old, too. >> to be old, yeah. I don't know. >> to be old, yeah. I don't know. >> to be old, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. >> Cuz you have rodeo Think about older >> Cuz you have rodeo Think about older >> Cuz you have rodeo Think about older cultures. cultures. cultures. >> You have you have rodeo >> You have you have rodeo >> You have you have rodeo >> Older than the >> Older than the >> Older than the >> Older than Italy? >> Older than Italy? >> Older than Italy? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Woah, bro. Mesopotamia? [laughter] >> Woah, bro. Mesopotamia? [laughter] >> Woah, bro. Mesopotamia? [laughter] Where are we going Babylon? Where are we Where are we going Babylon? Where are we Where are we going Babylon? Where are we going here, bro? going here, bro? going here, bro? >> No, a different part of the world, I >> No, a different part of the world, I >> No, a different part of the world, I guess. guess. guess. >> China? >> China? >> China? >> Uh closer. Yeah, there you go. >> Uh closer. Yeah, there you go. >> Uh closer. Yeah, there you go. >> India? >> India? >> India? >> India has the origin of clowns? >> India has the origin of clowns? >> India has the origin of clowns? >> This is what This is what they were >> This is what This is what they were >> This is what This is what they were talking about. talking about. talking about. >> Yeah, and then like the depiction of it >> Yeah, and then like the depiction of it >> Yeah, and then like the depiction of it being similar to what we see now like in being similar to what we see now like in being similar to what we see now like in modern circus. It's like having the red modern circus. It's like having the red modern circus. It's like having the red hair, the ginger hair, hair, the ginger hair, hair, the ginger hair, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> the nose, the red nose and >> the nose, the red nose and >> the nose, the red nose and >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, which is interesting. Hopefully you can which is interesting. Hopefully you can which is interesting. Hopefully you can find like a picture of it. find like a picture of it. find like a picture of it. >> circus goes longer. Doug, look up origin >> circus goes longer. Doug, look up origin >> circus goes longer. Doug, look up origin of clowns. of clowns. of clowns. >> Significantly longer, dude. >> Significantly longer, dude. >> Significantly longer, dude. >> Origin [clears throat] of clowns, Italy. >> Origin [clears throat] of clowns, Italy. >> Origin [clears throat] of clowns, Italy. >> Okay. Or India, sorry. >> Okay. Or India, sorry. >> Okay. Or India, sorry. >> Okay, yeah. >> Okay, yeah. >> Okay, yeah. >> I have another one here that says Egypt, >> I have another one here that says Egypt, >> I have another one here that says Egypt, but let's see here. but let's see here. but let's see here. >> Yeah, there you go. Even >> Yeah, there you go. Even >> Yeah, there you go. Even >> Yeah, [laughter] but you have further >> Yeah, [laughter] but you have further >> Yeah, [laughter] but you have further back. back. back. >> It might be that the clowns as we know >> It might be that the clowns as we know >> It might be that the clowns as we know with the red hair and stuff. with the red hair and stuff. with the red hair and stuff. >> Yeah, they're they're they're >> Yeah, they're they're they're >> Yeah, they're they're they're associating with the associating with the associating with the uh yeah, the modern circus. uh yeah, the modern circus. uh yeah, the modern circus. >> So, what were they >> So, what were they >> So, what were they >> This is the one I found. >> This is the one I found. >> This is the one I found. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Fifth dynasty of ancient Egypt about >> Fifth dynasty of ancient Egypt about >> Fifth dynasty of ancient Egypt about 4,400 years ago. 4,400 years ago. 4,400 years ago. So So So >> Serious authority serving a vital That's >> Serious authority serving a vital That's >> Serious authority serving a vital That's not the same like clown Like I like I'm not the same like clown Like I like I'm not the same like clown Like I like I'm thinking of like a clown with the thinking of like a clown with the thinking of like a clown with the >> Okay, let me get India here. >> Okay, let me get India here. >> Okay, let me get India here. >> hair. Let me see here, dude. This is >> hair. Let me see here, dude. This is >> hair. Let me see here, dude. This is >> Cuz they were they were joking that like >> Cuz they were they were joking that like >> Cuz they were they were joking that like it was like basically they're making fun it was like basically they're making fun it was like basically they're making fun of of of uh uh uh English English English because of the red hair and because of the red hair and because of the red hair and >> Oh, that makes sense. >> Oh, that makes sense. >> Oh, that makes sense. >> And then yeah, and like using that as >> And then yeah, and like using that as >> And then yeah, and like using that as sort of like the sort of like the sort of like the uh satirical blundering uh satirical blundering uh satirical blundering >> What So, they were making fun of the the >> What So, they were making fun of the the >> What So, they were making fun of the the people that were trying to people that were trying to people that were trying to >> This is this was their speculation. I I >> This is this was their speculation. I I >> This is this was their speculation. I I I can't fact-check all that, but it was I can't fact-check all that, but it was I can't fact-check all that, but it was it was an interesting conversation. it was an interesting conversation. it was an interesting conversation. >> What what was what I what was the >> What what was what I what was the >> What what was what I what was the primary job or thing they did? Was has primary job or thing they did? Was has primary job or thing they did? Was has it always been like humor poke fun? it always been like humor poke fun? it always been like humor poke fun? >> Um >> Um >> Um >> So, so how did it I know Doug's Googling >> So, so how did it I know Doug's Googling >> So, so how did it I know Doug's Googling away different stuff here, but I'm away different stuff here, but I'm away different stuff here, but I'm curious to know curious to know curious to know >> They were called the >> They were called the >> They were called the Vidushaka. Vidushaka. Vidushaka. It was a blundering, good-hearted, often It was a blundering, good-hearted, often It was a blundering, good-hearted, often bald-headed, and hung bald-headed, and hung bald-headed, and hung hungry Brahmin who acted as a loyal hungry Brahmin who acted as a loyal hungry Brahmin who acted as a loyal friend and confident to the friend and confident to the friend and confident to the >> Yeah, so so what they do is they use >> Yeah, so so what they do is they use >> Yeah, so so what they do is they use sarcasm and humor to critique society sarcasm and humor to critique society sarcasm and humor to critique society and keep kings in check. So, and keep kings in check. So, and keep kings in check. So, >> Like a jester. >> Like a jester. >> Like a jester. >> So, very jester. Yeah, >> So, very jester. Yeah, >> So, very jester. Yeah, Vidushaka. Vidushaka. Vidushaka. >> Type in Vidushaka. Let's see what he >> Type in Vidushaka. Let's see what he >> Type in Vidushaka. Let's see what he looks like, Doug. looks like, Doug. looks like, Doug. >> Yeah, yeah, Vidushaka. >> Yeah, yeah, Vidushaka. >> Yeah, yeah, Vidushaka. >> Let's see what he looks like. Uh one who >> Let's see what he looks like. Uh one who >> Let's see what he looks like. Uh one who provokes laughter. provokes laughter. provokes laughter. >> So, how Okay, if that's So, how do they >> So, how Okay, if that's So, how do they >> So, how Okay, if that's So, how do they make their way into the rodeo? make their way into the rodeo? make their way into the rodeo? >> Oh, I don't know. That's another good >> Oh, I don't know. That's another good >> Oh, I don't know. That's another good [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> That's a whole 'nother >> That's a whole 'nother >> That's a whole 'nother >> Yeah, like like world >> Yeah, like like world >> Yeah, like like world >> Yeah, that doesn't look funny at >> Yeah, that doesn't look funny at >> Yeah, that doesn't look funny at >> I would wonder if >> I would wonder if >> I would wonder if you know, in Spain cuz they have like you know, in Spain cuz they have like you know, in Spain cuz they have like the you know, that whole the you know, that whole the you know, that whole with the matador like as a distraction. with the matador like as a distraction. with the matador like as a distraction. I wonder if it evolved from from that. I wonder if it evolved from from that. I wonder if it evolved from from that. >> Yeah, I mean, that's >> Yeah, I mean, that's >> Yeah, I mean, that's >> they start using clowns to kind of >> they start using clowns to kind of >> they start using clowns to kind of distract distract distract >> Look at look at why why why did clowns >> Look at look at why why why did clowns >> Look at look at why why why did clowns make their way into to rodeo? Because if make their way into to rodeo? Because if make their way into to rodeo? Because if that's what they're designed to do, that's what they're designed to do, that's what they're designed to do, >> Do you guys know that the clown that a >> Do you guys know that the clown that a >> Do you guys know that the clown that a clown is often times the highest paid clown is often times the highest paid clown is often times the highest paid performer in a circus? performer in a circus? performer in a circus? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Yeah, they are yeah, cuz they >> Yeah, they are yeah, cuz they >> Yeah, they are yeah, cuz they they have to do all the the they have to do all the the they have to do all the the um the transitions and then keep the um the transitions and then keep the um the transitions and then keep the crowd engaged and so they're basically crowd engaged and so they're basically crowd engaged and so they're basically like the host. like the host. like the host. >> They're multi-talented. >> They're multi-talented. >> They're multi-talented. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, my So, you guys know Jessica used to >> So, my So, you guys know Jessica used to >> So, my So, you guys know Jessica used to travel with Cirque du Soleil and she's travel with Cirque du Soleil and she's travel with Cirque du Soleil and she's like the I I I asked her like who's the like the I I I asked her like who's the like the I I I asked her like who's the highest paid highest paid highest paid >> Look look I I wonder if that's the >> Look look I I wonder if that's the >> Look look I I wonder if that's the similar with the rodeo, too, because similar with the rodeo, too, because similar with the rodeo, too, because look at this it says it's they're look at this it says it's they're look at this it says it's they're uh uh uh they're they're supposed to be they're they're supposed to be they're they're supposed to be entertaining, protecting or comedy, entertaining, protecting or comedy, entertaining, protecting or comedy, moving the show along. moving the show along. moving the show along. >> They like constantly have to be >> They like constantly have to be >> They like constantly have to be entertaining. So so yeah, cuz she told entertaining. So so yeah, cuz she told entertaining. So so yeah, cuz she told me cuz I asked her, "So who makes the me cuz I asked her, "So who makes the me cuz I asked her, "So who makes the most in the circus?" She goes, "It's most in the circus?" She goes, "It's most in the circus?" She goes, "It's usually the clowns." I said, "Why?" usually the clowns." I said, "Why?" usually the clowns." I said, "Why?" She's like, "They need to know how to She's like, "They need to know how to She's like, "They need to know how to sing. They need to know how to make sing. They need to know how to make sing. They need to know how to make humor. They need to know the whole show. humor. They need to know the whole show. humor. They need to know the whole show. If something goes wrong in the show, If something goes wrong in the show, If something goes wrong in the show, they have to entertain the audience. they have to entertain the audience. they have to entertain the audience. Well, cuz circuses are performing all Well, cuz circuses are performing all Well, cuz circuses are performing all the time." the time." the time." >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And there's always >> And there's always >> And there's always >> Oh yeah, there's always a mishap. An >> Oh yeah, there's always a mishap. An >> Oh yeah, there's always a mishap. An animal gets out or something doesn't animal gets out or something doesn't animal gets out or something doesn't work. work. work. >> That's what she told me. She was, "Every >> That's what she told me. She was, "Every >> That's what she told me. She was, "Every show something happens and you got to show something happens and you got to show something happens and you got to like replace it with something else. And like replace it with something else. And like replace it with something else. And the clown is the person that fills in the clown is the person that fills in the clown is the person that fills in the space." And so she said they make the space." And so she said they make the space." And so she said they make the most money. the most money. the most money. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Which I had no idea. I thought it was >> Which I had no idea. I thought it was >> Which I had no idea. I thought it was like the like the like the >> What's What What are What are the >> What's What What are What are the >> What's What What are What are the highest paid clowns? What's What's top highest paid clowns? What's What's top highest paid clowns? What's What's top salary? salary? salary? >> clown school, too, like >> clown school, too, like >> clown school, too, like >> Is there really? >> Is there really? >> Is there really? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What's top salary for a for a clown? >> What's top salary for a for a clown? >> What's top salary for a for a clown? >> Barnum and Bailey like >> Barnum and Bailey like >> Barnum and Bailey like >> Where they're balling, bro? >> Where they're balling, bro? >> Where they're balling, bro? >> There was a a kid that was in my my >> There was a a kid that was in my my >> There was a a kid that was in my my son's gymnastics. son's gymnastics. son's gymnastics. >> clown? >> clown? >> clown? >> Who also went to like a Barnum and >> Who also went to like a Barnum and >> Who also went to like a Barnum and Bailey school for clowns. Bailey school for clowns. Bailey school for clowns. >> So most of them make between 58 to >> So most of them make between 58 to >> So most of them make between 58 to 89,000. Top independent earners make 89,000. Top independent earners make 89,000. Top independent earners make 114. 114. 114. In history, In history, In history, Swiss performer Grock. Swiss performer Grock. Swiss performer Grock. >> Oh, isn't that interesting? >> Oh, isn't that interesting? >> Oh, isn't that interesting? >> Grock. >> Grock. >> Grock. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Is that who we named after? >> Is that who we named after? >> Is that who we named after? >> How much do they make? One of the >> How much do they make? One of the >> How much do they make? One of the highest paid individuals in America. highest paid individuals in America. highest paid individuals in America. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Wow. Look at that. Back in the day they >> Wow. Look at that. Back in the day they >> Wow. Look at that. Back in the day they made a lot I don't think clowns are very made a lot I don't think clowns are very made a lot I don't think clowns are very valuable anymore. valuable anymore. valuable anymore. But they used to. But they used to. But they used to. >> I mean, they still they still they still >> I mean, they still they still they still >> I mean, they still they still they still still play the same role in rodeo and still play the same role in rodeo and still play the same role in rodeo and circus. circus. circus. >> Yeah, so they would I would think they >> Yeah, so they would I would think they >> Yeah, so they would I would think they would be would be would be >> Do you guys know why clowns are scary? >> Do you guys know why clowns are scary? >> Do you guys know why clowns are scary? Cuz you know a lot of people are scared Cuz you know a lot of people are scared Cuz you know a lot of people are scared of clowns. of clowns. of clowns. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I actually saw this >> I actually saw this >> I actually saw this >> Stephen King? >> Stephen King? >> Stephen King? >> No. No, they were scared before >> No. No, they were scared before >> No. No, they were scared before >> I feel like he made them scary. >> I feel like he made them scary. >> I feel like he made them scary. >> No. No, it was a fear before that. It >> No. No, it was a fear before that. It >> No. No, it was a fear before that. It was. Yes, it was a common fear. It was a was. Yes, it was a common fear. It was a was. Yes, it was a common fear. It was a common fear before. I actually read this common fear before. I actually read this common fear before. I actually read this once. There's a psychological I told you once. There's a psychological I told you once. There's a psychological I told you guys about this. There's a psychological guys about this. There's a psychological guys about this. There's a psychological phenomena when a person is smiling all phenomena when a person is smiling all phenomena when a person is smiling all the time and it rest of the facial the time and it rest of the facial the time and it rest of the facial features don't match. features don't match. features don't match. >> How eerie is it? >> How eerie is it? >> How eerie is it? >> Yeah, it sets it makes you feel kind of >> Yeah, it sets it makes you feel kind of >> Yeah, it sets it makes you feel kind of >> Remember when that that that movie came >> Remember when that that that movie came >> Remember when that that that movie came out a couple years ago that was called out a couple years ago that was called out a couple years ago that was called smile or whatever like that and they had smile or whatever like that and they had smile or whatever like that and they had and the way they promoted it was they and the way they promoted it was they and the way they promoted it was they just had the fan they had the the random just had the fan they had the the random just had the fan they had the the random people would be standing in the fans and people would be standing in the fans and people would be standing in the fans and they would just be smiling and staring they would just be smiling and staring they would just be smiling and staring off like how creepy that was was off like how creepy that was was off like how creepy that was was brilliant. brilliant. brilliant. >> another common fear? Balloons. Do you >> another common fear? Balloons. Do you >> another common fear? Balloons. Do you guys know that? That's a common fear guys know that? That's a common fear guys know that? That's a common fear people have of balloons. people have of balloons. people have of balloons. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah, cuz they they're going to pop at >> Yeah, cuz they they're going to pop at >> Yeah, cuz they they're going to pop at any moment. any moment. any moment. >> So people get anxiety. >> So people get anxiety. >> So people get anxiety. >> The anticipation of it just kills >> The anticipation of it just kills >> The anticipation of it just kills people. people. people. >> I didn't know that. Now remember when >> I didn't know that. Now remember when >> I didn't know that. Now remember when you brought up the the shark thing you brought up the the shark thing you brought up the the shark thing because obviously people have always because obviously people have always because obviously people have always been afraid of sharks but after after been afraid of sharks but after after been afraid of sharks but after after jaws came out jaws came out jaws came out it was like a now was the same thing it was like a now was the same thing it was like a now was the same thing happen with it? happen with it? happen with it? >> It definitely made it had to. >> It definitely made it had to. >> It definitely made it had to. >> Yeah, way less popular. >> Yeah, way less popular. >> Yeah, way less popular. >> Because I most people I know that say >> Because I most people I know that say >> Because I most people I know that say anything about clowns like they draw it anything about clowns like they draw it anything about clowns like they draw it back to it. Not because they had some back to it. Not because they had some back to it. Not because they had some childhood trauma thing or they had some childhood trauma thing or they had some childhood trauma thing or they had some childhood thing with they were afraid of childhood thing with they were afraid of childhood thing with they were afraid of clowns [laughter] like they knew they clowns [laughter] like they knew they clowns [laughter] like they knew they were they were aware of the movie it and were they were aware of the movie it and were they were aware of the movie it and that that that >> Killer Klowns from Outer Space. >> Killer Klowns from Outer Space. >> Killer Klowns from Outer Space. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> One of the best movies of all time. >> One of the best movies of all time. >> One of the best movies of all time. >> Yeah. No, so it's so it says there that >> Yeah. No, so it's so it says there that >> Yeah. No, so it's so it says there that it it heavily amplified a fear that it it heavily amplified a fear that it it heavily amplified a fear that already existed. So [laughter] yeah, I already existed. So [laughter] yeah, I already existed. So [laughter] yeah, I told you. told you. told you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah that but what they what it >> Yeah, yeah that but what they what it >> Yeah, yeah that but what they what it did is it made the original clown did is it made the original clown did is it made the original clown costume something that people couldn't costume something that people couldn't costume something that people couldn't do anymore. So the original like do anymore. So the original like do anymore. So the original like McDonald's clown, you know, red and the McDonald's clown, you know, red and the McDonald's clown, you know, red and the >> Yeah, they had to change it. >> Yeah, they had to change it. >> Yeah, they had to change it. >> Children's clowns stopped dressing that >> Children's clowns stopped dressing that >> Children's clowns stopped dressing that way because that movie made that the way because that movie made that the way because that movie made that the scariest. scariest. scariest. Oh, that's a what's that movie? That's a Oh, that's a what's that movie? That's a Oh, that's a what's that movie? That's a what's his name? what's his name? what's his name? >> Who's that Rob Zombie? >> Who's that Rob Zombie? >> Who's that Rob Zombie? >> No, in the middle there. That's a Rob >> No, in the middle there. That's a Rob >> No, in the middle there. That's a Rob Zombie movie Zombie movie Zombie movie isn't it? isn't it? isn't it? >> Or is that American Horror Story? >> Or is that American Horror Story? >> Or is that American Horror Story? >> I would say cuz >> I would say cuz >> I would say cuz the left one is it I know that. the left one is it I know that. the left one is it I know that. >> No, you're right. American Horror Story. >> No, you're right. American Horror Story. >> No, you're right. American Horror Story. No, that's right. No, that's right. No, that's right. >> Oh, you remember that huh? >> Oh, you remember that huh? >> Oh, you remember that huh? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. I know crazy. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. I know crazy. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. I know crazy. >> Clowns are [laughter] clowns are creepy. >> Clowns are [laughter] clowns are creepy. >> Clowns are [laughter] clowns are creepy. >> All right, I'm going to change the >> All right, I'm going to change the >> All right, I'm going to change the subject. So I got to just rave subject. So I got to just rave subject. So I got to just rave about this peptide stack that I have about this peptide stack that I have about this peptide stack that I have that I using from our partners, that I using from our partners, that I using from our partners, at mp-hormones.com. at mp-hormones.com. at mp-hormones.com. The KLO stack. The KLO stack. The KLO stack. So, you guys know just cuz on that, So, you guys know just cuz on that, So, you guys know just cuz on that, right? So, yeah, and I'm using it, too. right? So, yeah, and I'm using it, too. right? So, yeah, and I'm using it, too. >> Katrina Oh, you are, too? >> Katrina Oh, you are, too? >> Katrina Oh, you are, too? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Oh. >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, >> Yeah. So, >> Katrina Katrina has, too. >> Katrina Katrina has, too. >> Katrina Katrina has, too. >> using >> using >> using >> And she loves it, yeah. >> And she loves it, yeah. >> And she loves it, yeah. >> Dude, okay. So, you guys know the >> Dude, okay. So, you guys know the >> Dude, okay. So, you guys know the Wolverine stack. Okay, Wolverine stack Wolverine stack. Okay, Wolverine stack Wolverine stack. Okay, Wolverine stack is TB-500 and BPC-157, right? So, they is TB-500 and BPC-157, right? So, they is TB-500 and BPC-157, right? So, they both both both accelerate healing, recovery. They're accelerate healing, recovery. They're accelerate healing, recovery. They're different mechanisms. One, BPC, is different mechanisms. One, BPC, is different mechanisms. One, BPC, is produced in the gastric juices of the produced in the gastric juices of the produced in the gastric juices of the body. The other one is produced by the body. The other one is produced by the body. The other one is produced by the thymus gland. Both of them thymus gland. Both of them thymus gland. Both of them different, but they're synergistic. different, but they're synergistic. different, but they're synergistic. And they call it the Wolverine stack cuz And they call it the Wolverine stack cuz And they call it the Wolverine stack cuz people use it when they have an injury people use it when they have an injury people use it when they have an injury and the healing time is just it's and the healing time is just it's and the healing time is just it's ridiculous. And we've all experienced ridiculous. And we've all experienced ridiculous. And we've all experienced this. Like, I've had injuries when I this. Like, I've had injuries when I this. Like, I've had injuries when I tore my hamstring in Hawaii. Uh it tore my hamstring in Hawaii. Uh it tore my hamstring in Hawaii. Uh it should have taken me months. I mean, it should have taken me months. I mean, it should have taken me months. I mean, it was a nice tear. You guys saw the was a nice tear. You guys saw the was a nice tear. You guys saw the bruising. bruising. bruising. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it was weeks. It was like a few >> And it was weeks. It was like a few >> And it was weeks. It was like a few weeks later and I was working out, which weeks later and I was working out, which weeks later and I was working out, which is wild. Okay, wild. I know you've is wild. Okay, wild. I know you've is wild. Okay, wild. I know you've experienced it with your injuries. experienced it with your injuries. experienced it with your injuries. So, KLO is like the Wolverine stack and So, KLO is like the Wolverine stack and So, KLO is like the Wolverine stack and then you add on then you add on then you add on even more. So, even more. So, even more. So, >> for skin? >> for skin? >> for skin? >> So, they use it for skin, but it's like >> So, they use it for skin, but it's like >> So, they use it for skin, but it's like like you want a healing stack, like you want a healing stack, like you want a healing stack, go on that one. go on that one. go on that one. >> What comes with that is GH GHK-Cu. >> What comes with that is GH GHK-Cu. >> What comes with that is GH GHK-Cu. >> TB-500, GHK-Cu, and KPV. >> TB-500, GHK-Cu, and KPV. >> TB-500, GHK-Cu, and KPV. >> And KPV, that's what I asked. >> And KPV, that's what I asked. >> And KPV, that's what I asked. >> So, now you add two more peptides that >> So, now you add two more peptides that >> So, now you add two more peptides that accelerate healing accelerate healing accelerate healing and it's wild. And I'm experiencing this and it's wild. And I'm experiencing this and it's wild. And I'm experiencing this right now because I'm doing right now because I'm doing right now because I'm doing uh jujitsu and my joints are stiff and uh jujitsu and my joints are stiff and uh jujitsu and my joints are stiff and I'm getting used to the movements and I'm getting used to the movements and I'm getting used to the movements and all that stuff and all that stuff and all that stuff and >> I wonder how they got >> I wonder how they got >> I wonder how they got >> And it's crazy how fast I I will recover >> And it's crazy how fast I I will recover >> And it's crazy how fast I I will recover from stuff. from stuff. from stuff. >> I wonder how they got to this stack, >> I wonder how they got to this stack, >> I wonder how they got to this stack, like to to to add all those. like to to to add all those. like to to to add all those. Cuz I Cuz I Cuz I >> Cuz people were already adding them. >> Cuz people were already adding them. >> Cuz people were already adding them. They were stacking them on their own, They were stacking them on their own, They were stacking them on their own, learning about them, and they just put learning about them, and they just put learning about them, and they just put it together. it together. it together. >> Oh, you think so? >> Oh, you think so? >> Oh, you think so? >> Oh, wait. Doug, put Watch this. Check >> Oh, wait. Doug, put Watch this. Check >> Oh, wait. Doug, put Watch this. Check this out. Now, this isn't indicative of this out. Now, this isn't indicative of this out. Now, this isn't indicative of like what everybody should experience, like what everybody should experience, like what everybody should experience, but type in KLO before and after and but type in KLO before and after and but type in KLO before and after and click on images and watch people's their click on images and watch people's their click on images and watch people's their faces. faces. faces. >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Oh, really? >> Their skin and wrinkles and stuff like >> Their skin and wrinkles and stuff like >> Their skin and wrinkles and stuff like that. It's watch before and after. that. It's watch before and after. that. It's watch before and after. >> Total glow up. >> Total glow up. >> Total glow up. >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You'll see before >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You'll see before >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You'll see before and afters of people on their skin. and afters of people on their skin. and afters of people on their skin. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, look at that. This stuff's crazy. This stuff's crazy. This stuff's crazy. It's uh like you won't need Botox. It's uh like you won't need Botox. It's uh like you won't need Botox. >> have the capability, you pair that with >> have the capability, you pair that with >> have the capability, you pair that with some red light. some red light. some red light. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> You do that you do that. That's what >> You do that you do that. That's what >> You do that you do that. That's what Katrina does. Katrina takes it, she does Katrina does. Katrina takes it, she does Katrina does. Katrina takes it, she does her red light in front of a red light at her red light in front of a red light at her red light in front of a red light at night, sits in front of her face and night, sits in front of her face and night, sits in front of her face and >> Look at that one. Look at that before >> Look at that one. Look at that before >> Look at that one. Look at that before and after of that woman. and after of that woman. and after of that woman. >> Damn. >> Damn. >> Damn. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> That don't even That looks fake it's so >> That don't even That looks fake it's so >> That don't even That looks fake it's so good. good. good. >> No, it's legit, dude. It is legit. I'm >> No, it's legit, dude. It is legit. I'm >> No, it's legit, dude. It is legit. I'm experiencing it with recovery, which is experiencing it with recovery, which is experiencing it with recovery, which is I know when I have certain aches and I know when I have certain aches and I know when I have certain aches and pains. I've been working out forever. I pains. I've been working out forever. I pains. I've been working out forever. I know how long it would take for them to know how long it would take for them to know how long it would take for them to go away. go away. go away. It's like days versus what it would take It's like days versus what it would take It's like days versus what it would take like a week or 2 weeks. like a week or 2 weeks. like a week or 2 weeks. >> like the main thing that you stopped >> like the main thing that you stopped >> like the main thing that you stopped doing jujitsu? Was it the the pain of of doing jujitsu? Was it the the pain of of doing jujitsu? Was it the the pain of of the joints or what what was it? the joints or what what was it? the joints or what what was it? >> Yeah, why did you stop jujitsu back in >> Yeah, why did you stop jujitsu back in >> Yeah, why did you stop jujitsu back in the days? the days? the days? >> I had a realization. You ever have I >> I had a realization. You ever have I >> I had a realization. You ever have I don't know if you guys ever had this don't know if you guys ever had this don't know if you guys ever had this happen. happen. happen. >> you're getting too good. >> you're getting too good. >> you're getting too good. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> No, dude. You ever have a realization >> No, dude. You ever have a realization >> No, dude. You ever have a realization where you you look back and you're like, where you you look back and you're like, where you you look back and you're like, "Oh, man, I never admitted that to "Oh, man, I never admitted that to "Oh, man, I never admitted that to myself, let alone to anyone else, why I myself, let alone to anyone else, why I myself, let alone to anyone else, why I did X, Y, or Z." You ever do that? did X, Y, or Z." You ever do that? did X, Y, or Z." You ever do that? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, that's what happened to me. So, >> So, that's what happened to me. So, >> So, that's what happened to me. So, uh I was just today, you know, finished uh I was just today, you know, finished uh I was just today, you know, finished jujitsu, I'm driving. jujitsu, I'm driving. jujitsu, I'm driving. And uh you know, I'm doing my listening And uh you know, I'm doing my listening And uh you know, I'm doing my listening to a sermon, so that's like my spiritual to a sermon, so that's like my spiritual to a sermon, so that's like my spiritual time is time is time is typically post workout, which is good typically post workout, which is good typically post workout, which is good cuz it cuz it cuz it actually helps me kind of you know, see actually helps me kind of you know, see actually helps me kind of you know, see things differently. things differently. things differently. And I'm thinking back to when I used to And I'm thinking back to when I used to And I'm thinking back to when I used to do jujitsu and I used to love it, right? do jujitsu and I used to love it, right? do jujitsu and I used to love it, right? I did it for a long time, loved it. Um I did it for a long time, loved it. Um I did it for a long time, loved it. Um and I remember the thing that caused me and I remember the thing that caused me and I remember the thing that caused me to kind of want to stop and it all had to kind of want to stop and it all had to kind of want to stop and it all had to do with my ego, which is really to do with my ego, which is really to do with my ego, which is really embarrassing to say. embarrassing to say. embarrassing to say. So, I competed So, I competed So, I competed in a big tournament uh in San Francisco. in a big tournament uh in San Francisco. in a big tournament uh in San Francisco. It was the United Gracie uh tournament. It was the United Gracie uh tournament. It was the United Gracie uh tournament. I think it was in 2006. I think it was in 2006. I think it was in 2006. >> It's not the All Valley tournament. >> It's not the All Valley tournament. >> It's not the All Valley tournament. >> Something. >> Something. >> Something. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> It's like that. >> It's like that. >> It's like that. >> Cool, dude. >> Cool, dude. >> Cool, dude. >> I wrapped my >> I wrapped my >> I wrapped my >> What's his name? >> What's his name? >> What's his name? >> That's what we do. >> That's what we do. >> That's what we do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, I won that tournament. And I won >> Anyway, I won that tournament. And I won >> Anyway, I won that tournament. And I won it, nobody sing scored a single point on it, nobody sing scored a single point on it, nobody sing scored a single point on me. Uh they had promoted me to purple me. Uh they had promoted me to purple me. Uh they had promoted me to purple belt right after. And so I was feeling belt right after. And so I was feeling belt right after. And so I was feeling like like like Yeah, dude. I'm really good. Yeah, dude. I'm really good. Yeah, dude. I'm really good. >> of the world. >> of the world. >> of the world. >> great, right? >> great, right? >> great, right? I uh signed up for the US Open, which I uh signed up for the US Open, which I uh signed up for the US Open, which was was was not that long after. Uh I want to say not that long after. Uh I want to say not that long after. Uh I want to say six or seven months later. It was like six or seven months later. It was like six or seven months later. It was like >> a purple belt? >> a purple belt? >> a purple belt? >> Purple belt. >> Purple belt. >> Purple belt. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I already know what's coming here. >> I already know what's coming here. >> I already know what's coming here. >> So, now I felt this bloated sense of >> So, now I felt this bloated sense of >> So, now I felt this bloated sense of self because when I would roll with the self because when I would roll with the self because when I would roll with the dudes in the gym who were purple belt or dudes in the gym who were purple belt or dudes in the gym who were purple belt or brown belt or even black belt, like I brown belt or even black belt, like I brown belt or even black belt, like I would do pretty good. would do pretty good. would do pretty good. Um and so I show and I trained for this Um and so I show and I trained for this Um and so I show and I trained for this tournament. Like I trained smart, I did tournament. Like I trained smart, I did tournament. Like I trained smart, I did everything right. I sign up, I go to everything right. I sign up, I go to everything right. I sign up, I go to this tournament. And it's single this tournament. And it's single this tournament. And it's single elimination. elimination. elimination. And I go against this dude who ended up And I go against this dude who ended up And I go against this dude who ended up being uh you know, this top fighter being uh you know, this top fighter being uh you know, this top fighter later on. Trying to make myself feel later on. Trying to make myself feel later on. Trying to make myself feel better. better. better. But he beat me in less than a minute. But he beat me in less than a minute. But he beat me in less than a minute. Like we we we hit the ground. He moved a Like we we we hit the ground. He moved a Like we we we hit the ground. He moved a particular way, caught me off guard, particular way, caught me off guard, particular way, caught me off guard, caught me in a arm lock, lost out. caught me in a arm lock, lost out. caught me in a arm lock, lost out. That's it. I'm out of the tournament. That's it. I'm out of the tournament. That's it. I'm out of the tournament. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I felt so like embarrassed. Yeah, >> And I felt so like embarrassed. Yeah, >> And I felt so like embarrassed. Yeah, dude. In fact dude. In fact dude. In fact >> You stopped after that? >> You stopped after that? >> You stopped after that? >> Hold on. I had family members that were >> Hold on. I had family members that were >> Hold on. I had family members that were coming to watch. They didn't even get to coming to watch. They didn't even get to coming to watch. They didn't even get to see. They got there a little late. see. They got there a little late. see. They got there a little late. >> Oh god, that's so sad. >> Oh god, that's so sad. >> Oh god, that's so sad. >> So, they showed up and I'm there and >> So, they showed up and I'm there and >> So, they showed up and I'm there and they're like, "Hey, what's going on?" they're like, "Hey, what's going on?" they're like, "Hey, what's going on?" I'm like, "I lost." I'm like, "I lost." I'm like, "I lost." >> Yeah, I'm already out. >> Yeah, I'm already out. >> Yeah, I'm already out. >> You drove all this way. >> You drove all this way. >> You drove all this way. >> So, I left So, I finished that. >> So, I left So, I finished that. >> So, I left So, I finished that. >> Huge blow to the ego. >> Huge blow to the ego. >> Huge blow to the ego. >> And then I kept training a little bit, >> And then I kept training a little bit, >> And then I kept training a little bit, but I think it was that, dude. And it but I think it was that, dude. And it but I think it was that, dude. And it was that was that was that >> after that you quit? >> after that you quit? >> after that you quit? >> shortly after that that I started to >> shortly after that that I started to >> shortly after that that I started to quit. And I never really admitted it to quit. And I never really admitted it to quit. And I never really admitted it to myself. myself. myself. >> that story. >> that story. >> that story. >> admitted it to myself, let alone tell >> admitted it to myself, let alone tell >> admitted it to myself, let alone tell anybody else. Because I don't want to anybody else. Because I don't want to anybody else. Because I don't want to admit to myself I'm a quitter. admit to myself I'm a quitter. admit to myself I'm a quitter. >> So, if you didn't So, if you didn't >> So, if you didn't So, if you didn't >> So, if you didn't So, if you didn't admit to yourself, what was the lie you admit to yourself, what was the lie you admit to yourself, what was the lie you told yourself? told yourself? told yourself? >> The lie I told me and there's partial >> The lie I told me and there's partial >> The lie I told me and there's partial truth to this. truth to this. truth to this. >> There usually is. >> There usually is. >> There usually is. >> There's partial truth to this, which is >> There's partial truth to this, which is >> There's partial truth to this, which is uh that I was building my it wasn't uh that I was building my it wasn't uh that I was building my it wasn't >> that I I building my business and the >> that I I building my business and the >> that I I building my business and the times that the classes were running were times that the classes were running were times that the classes were running were times I could fill with clients and so times I could fill with clients and so times I could fill with clients and so and that's the thing with jujitsu you and that's the thing with jujitsu you and that's the thing with jujitsu you got to show up and do a class whereas got to show up and do a class whereas got to show up and do a class whereas when I lift I could lift at any time. when I lift I could lift at any time. when I lift I could lift at any time. Type of deal. And so I just got back Type of deal. And so I just got back Type of deal. And so I just got back into lifting and kind of abandoned into lifting and kind of abandoned into lifting and kind of abandoned jujitsu. But as I'm looking back I'm jujitsu. But as I'm looking back I'm jujitsu. But as I'm looking back I'm like dude I if I won that tournament for like dude I if I won that tournament for like dude I if I won that tournament for sure I wouldn't have stopped. sure I wouldn't have stopped. sure I wouldn't have stopped. >> be going. >> be going. >> be going. >> Yeah. What about you? What about if you >> Yeah. What about you? What about if you >> Yeah. What about you? What about if you even lost but you lost like closer like even lost but you lost like closer like even lost but you lost like closer like it was a better match? Do you think that it was a better match? Do you think that it was a better match? Do you think that >> I got I got my ass kicked so hard. >> I got I got my ass kicked so hard. >> I got I got my ass kicked so hard. >> So so >> So so >> So so do you think like obviously if you win do you think like obviously if you win do you think like obviously if you win it that that changes that it that that changes that it that that changes that >> I don't know dude. I think probably. But >> I don't know dude. I think probably. But >> I don't know dude. I think probably. But to be that embarrassed to be that embarrassed to be that embarrassed >> Right right to get whooped humbled. >> Right right to get whooped humbled. >> Right right to get whooped humbled. >> Which is you know logically this is >> Which is you know logically this is >> Which is you know logically this is fight sports. Like that'll happen. fight sports. Like that'll happen. fight sports. Like that'll happen. >> Well especially when you just got >> Well especially when you just got >> Well especially when you just got elevated to that next level and you go elevated to that next level and you go elevated to that next level and you go outside of your little ecosystem of your outside of your little ecosystem of your outside of your little ecosystem of your gym who you're By the way too that I gym who you're By the way too that I gym who you're By the way too that I would think I don't know cuz I don't would think I don't know cuz I don't would think I don't know cuz I don't have done this but I would imagine have done this but I would imagine have done this but I would imagine when you roll even if they're brown when you roll even if they're brown when you roll even if they're brown belts about us with the same guys all belts about us with the same guys all belts about us with the same guys all the time you start to learn their the time you start to learn their the time you start to learn their techniques and there's a little bit techniques and there's a little bit techniques and there's a little bit You know what they're going to do. You know what they're going to do. You know what they're going to do. So going and meeting a purple belt at So going and meeting a purple belt at So going and meeting a purple belt at but a really good purple belt you've but a really good purple belt you've but a really good purple belt you've never rolled with before. never rolled with before. never rolled with before. >> Who I would have gone against who I >> Who I would have gone against who I >> Who I would have gone against who I don't know if he got first or second. don't know if he got first or second. don't know if he got first or second. >> Was this sweet days? >> Was this sweet days? >> Was this sweet days? >> No no Mike wasn't competing but you know >> No no Mike wasn't competing but you know >> No no Mike wasn't competing but you know who was in my pool? Luke Rockhold. who was in my pool? Luke Rockhold. who was in my pool? Luke Rockhold. >> Oh really? >> Oh really? >> Oh really? >> Yeah Rockhold was jujitsu so he did >> Yeah Rockhold was jujitsu so he did >> Yeah Rockhold was jujitsu so he did jujitsu. jujitsu. jujitsu. Yes he did jujitsu at Claudio in Santa Yes he did jujitsu at Claudio in Santa Yes he did jujitsu at Claudio in Santa Cruz. Cruz. Cruz. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And he was a purple belt when I was a >> And he was a purple belt when I was a >> And he was a purple belt when I was a purple belt and he was in the pool so I purple belt and he was in the pool so I purple belt and he was in the pool so I would have had to go against him anyway. would have had to go against him anyway. would have had to go against him anyway. >> So he >> So he >> So he as you say you whoop I mean he's a bad I as you say you whoop I mean he's a bad I as you say you whoop I mean he's a bad I mean the guy is mean the guy is mean the guy is >> Yeah of course. Uh but dude I think it's >> Yeah of course. Uh but dude I think it's >> Yeah of course. Uh but dude I think it's cuz I got I got my ego destroyed. cuz I got I got my ego destroyed. cuz I got I got my ego destroyed. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> And I think that really demoralized me >> And I think that really demoralized me >> And I think that really demoralized me and I didn't want to admit it to myself and I didn't want to admit it to myself and I didn't want to admit it to myself cuz who wants to admit to themselves cuz who wants to admit to themselves cuz who wants to admit to themselves they're a quitter because their ego got they're a quitter because their ego got they're a quitter because their ego got bruised? Nobody. Not me. bruised? Nobody. Not me. bruised? Nobody. Not me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So yeah I was thinking about that in the >> So yeah I was thinking about that in the >> So yeah I was thinking about that in the car and I called my wife I'm like hey car and I called my wife I'm like hey car and I called my wife I'm like hey you want to know why I quit jujitsu? And you want to know why I quit jujitsu? And you want to know why I quit jujitsu? And she's like why? And I told her and she's she's like why? And I told her and she's she's like why? And I told her and she's like what? Like, "Yeah, dude." like what? Like, "Yeah, dude." like what? Like, "Yeah, dude." Interesting. I know. Interesting. I know. Interesting. I know. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Which is good to know now because, you >> Which is good to know now because, you >> Which is good to know now because, you know, I'm going to get my ego bruised know, I'm going to get my ego bruised know, I'm going to get my ego bruised again. again. again. >> Yeah. It happens. >> Yeah. It happens. >> Yeah. It happens. >> And you know what? You don't get your >> And you know what? You don't get your >> And you know what? You don't get your ego bruised when you go lift weights by ego bruised when you go lift weights by ego bruised when you go lift weights by yourself. yourself. yourself. >> I'm trying to get a good story out of >> I'm trying to get a good story out of >> I'm trying to get a good story out of you. You're in your own world. you. You're in your own world. you. You're in your own world. >> You're in your own world, dude. You >> You're in your own world, dude. You >> You're in your own world, dude. You know? know? know? >> We we all have to have a pretty good >> We we all have to have a pretty good >> We we all have to have a pretty good story like that. There's got to be story like that. There's got to be story like that. There's got to be something like this where I where I had something like this where I where I had something like this where I where I had like stopped doing something, kind of like stopped doing something, kind of like stopped doing something, kind of lied to myself about why. And that's a lied to myself about why. And that's a lied to myself about why. And that's a really interesting thought. That's really interesting thought. That's really interesting thought. That's really crazy. really crazy. really crazy. >> I have in football for me for sure. >> I have in football for me for sure. >> I have in football for me for sure. Which is, you know, the worst cuz that Which is, you know, the worst cuz that Which is, you know, the worst cuz that was like my best sport. was like my best sport. was like my best sport. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And I like it was I wasn't going to play >> And I like it was I wasn't going to play >> And I like it was I wasn't going to play another year. I had I had figured out another year. I had I had figured out another year. I had I had figured out how to how to how to a redshirt year so I could play, you a redshirt year so I could play, you a redshirt year so I could play, you know, a fifth year. Uh I thought I had know, a fifth year. Uh I thought I had know, a fifth year. Uh I thought I had burned it up cuz I was at a different burned it up cuz I was at a different burned it up cuz I was at a different school and transferred. And he's like school and transferred. And he's like school and transferred. And he's like and then so I was like I went through and then so I was like I went through and then so I was like I went through the whole process of like this is my the whole process of like this is my the whole process of like this is my last season. I like put everything out last season. I like put everything out last season. I like put everything out there uh for that last season and we there uh for that last season and we there uh for that last season and we like, you know, made a bowl game and like, you know, made a bowl game and like, you know, made a bowl game and like I I kind of did the thing that I like I I kind of did the thing that I like I I kind of did the thing that I was like going to do. was like going to do. was like going to do. And you know, and I got emotional and I And you know, and I got emotional and I And you know, and I got emotional and I was just like, you know, at the end it's was just like, you know, at the end it's was just like, you know, at the end it's like was this the end? This is like I like was this the end? This is like I like was this the end? This is like I have a new identity now and I kind of have a new identity now and I kind of have a new identity now and I kind of had that sort of like whole process had that sort of like whole process had that sort of like whole process happen then and then the coach came back happen then and then the coach came back happen then and then the coach came back to me and was like, "Listen, you're to me and was like, "Listen, you're to me and was like, "Listen, you're still eligible." And I was like, "Yeah, still eligible." And I was like, "Yeah, still eligible." And I was like, "Yeah, really?" Like it just threw me so off. really?" Like it just threw me so off. really?" Like it just threw me so off. I had like the worst year ever the last I had like the worst year ever the last I had like the worst year ever the last year, my my fifth year. Like I I like year, my my fifth year. Like I I like year, my my fifth year. Like I I like was so checked out. Like my um yeah, my was so checked out. Like my um yeah, my was so checked out. Like my um yeah, my mind wasn't in I was into like playing mind wasn't in I was into like playing mind wasn't in I was into like playing music and like I I had already started music and like I I had already started music and like I I had already started to kind of transition and move on to the to kind of transition and move on to the to kind of transition and move on to the point where like point where like point where like in practice, like I was kind of like in practice, like I was kind of like in practice, like I was kind of like just going through the drills and just going through the drills and just going through the drills and everything, but like I wasn't learning everything, but like I wasn't learning everything, but like I wasn't learning We had a new defensive coordinator that We had a new defensive coordinator that We had a new defensive coordinator that came in came in came in and he was just like guns blazing. Like and he was just like guns blazing. Like and he was just like guns blazing. Like you have to learn the system. Like this you have to learn the system. Like this you have to learn the system. Like this is my took it he took it from some like is my took it he took it from some like is my took it he took it from some like successful college that he was at and successful college that he was at and successful college that he was at and like, you know, everybody has to like, you know, everybody has to like, you know, everybody has to memorize these specifically and I just, memorize these specifically and I just, memorize these specifically and I just, you know, and I and I was just relying you know, and I and I was just relying you know, and I and I was just relying on my talent at that point and like, you on my talent at that point and like, you on my talent at that point and like, you know, showing up, but I wasn't like and know, showing up, but I wasn't like and know, showing up, but I wasn't like and so he started to pick up that I wasn't so he started to pick up that I wasn't so he started to pick up that I wasn't memorizing all the plays. He was getting memorizing all the plays. He was getting memorizing all the plays. He was getting pissed off with me. We were butting pissed off with me. We were butting pissed off with me. We were butting heads. He I sat the bench like the the heads. He I sat the bench like the the heads. He I sat the bench like the the second half of the season. second half of the season. second half of the season. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Yeah, I've never done that in football. >> Yeah, I've never done that in football. >> Yeah, I've never done that in football. I've never watched from the sidelines I've never watched from the sidelines I've never watched from the sidelines and it killed me. and it killed me. and it killed me. And I was like, I'm done. And I was like, I'm done. And I was like, I'm done. >> After that? >> After that? >> After that? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I you know, I have so I have a similar >> I you know, I have so I have a similar >> I you know, I have so I have a similar story. Now, you just sparked that for story. Now, you just sparked that for story. Now, you just sparked that for me. So, my senior year, my senior year me. So, my senior year, my senior year me. So, my senior year, my senior year of high school and I told the story on of high school and I told the story on of high school and I told the story on the podcast, but I the way I tell the the podcast, but I the way I tell the the podcast, but I the way I tell the story is that I wanted to work and make story is that I wanted to work and make story is that I wanted to work and make money, which is partially true. You money, which is partially true. You money, which is partially true. You know, like I I wanted I had girlfriend, know, like I I wanted I had girlfriend, know, like I I wanted I had girlfriend, had a car and if I wanted these things, had a car and if I wanted these things, had a car and if I wanted these things, I had to pay for them. So, I needed to I had to pay for them. So, I needed to I had to pay for them. So, I needed to work and work before school. But the the work and work before school. But the the work and work before school. But the the deeper truth is that my junior year, I deeper truth is that my junior year, I deeper truth is that my junior year, I rode the bench and it would just get rode the bench and it would just get rode the bench and it would just get crushed it crushed me. crushed it crushed me. crushed it crushed me. And I was just like, I'm not going to go And I was just like, I'm not going to go And I was just like, I'm not going to go my senior year and potentially do that. my senior year and potentially do that. my senior year and potentially do that. Had I played like crazy and and had a Had I played like crazy and and had a Had I played like crazy and and had a felt like I had a shot to be a starter felt like I had a shot to be a starter felt like I had a shot to be a starter and playing my senior year, I probably and playing my senior year, I probably and playing my senior year, I probably would have played even I would have would have played even I would have would have played even I would have found a way out work wise. I would have found a way out work wise. I would have found a way out work wise. I would have worked around it or something like that worked around it or something like that worked around it or something like that to make it all work, but because that to make it all work, but because that to make it all work, but because that crushed me so much my junior year, that crushed me so much my junior year, that crushed me so much my junior year, that I'm like, there's no way I want to go I'm like, there's no way I want to go I'm like, there's no way I want to go another year like that that I said, "Eff another year like that that I said, "Eff another year like that that I said, "Eff it. I'm just going to work and do that." it. I'm just going to work and do that." it. I'm just going to work and do that." And so, the story I tell is always I And so, the story I tell is always I And so, the story I tell is always I needed to make money. I needed to work, needed to make money. I needed to work, needed to make money. I needed to work, which is partially true, but probably which is partially true, but probably which is partially true, but probably deep down it was more my ego was bruised deep down it was more my ego was bruised deep down it was more my ego was bruised that I didn't get to I didn't play. And that I didn't get to I didn't play. And that I didn't get to I didn't play. And I felt I was good all my peers thought I I felt I was good all my peers thought I I felt I was good all my peers thought I was, my buddies and coach didn't think was, my buddies and coach didn't think was, my buddies and coach didn't think so and so, yeah, that was a so and so, yeah, that was a so and so, yeah, that was a >> It was funny, yeah, cuz like your story >> It was funny, yeah, cuz like your story >> It was funny, yeah, cuz like your story of like, you know, people showing up and of like, you know, people showing up and of like, you know, people showing up and you're not there. Like, that was like you're not there. Like, that was like you're not there. Like, that was like the same. I had like cousins and people the same. I had like cousins and people the same. I had like cousins and people flying in and they were like expecting flying in and they were like expecting flying in and they were like expecting me to play. I didn't even play. me to play. I didn't even play. me to play. I didn't even play. I'm like and I'm begging the coach put I'm like and I'm begging the coach put I'm like and I'm begging the coach put me. He's like, "No." me. He's like, "No." me. He's like, "No." And wouldn't put me in, you know, all my And wouldn't put me in, you know, all my And wouldn't put me in, you know, all my family was there and all this this is family was there and all this this is family was there and all this this is It's never happened to me before. It It's never happened to me before. It It's never happened to me before. It sucks. sucks. sucks. >> Dude, it sucks so bad. It's like >> Dude, it sucks so bad. It's like >> Dude, it sucks so bad. It's like it's funny cuz I was talking to to it's funny cuz I was talking to to it's funny cuz I was talking to to Jessica about like competing at some Jessica about like competing at some Jessica about like competing at some point potentially. I don't think I will, point potentially. I don't think I will, point potentially. I don't think I will, but you know, I just kind of playing but you know, I just kind of playing but you know, I just kind of playing with the idea. with the idea. with the idea. And she's like, "Oh, I'd love to come And she's like, "Oh, I'd love to come And she's like, "Oh, I'd love to come watch you." And I'm like, "I don't think watch you." And I'm like, "I don't think watch you." And I'm like, "I don't think I want you to watch me or the kids cuz I want you to watch me or the kids cuz I want you to watch me or the kids cuz if I lost in front of my kids, if I lost in front of my kids, if I lost in front of my kids, I think my ego I don't know if I could I think my ego I don't know if I could I think my ego I don't know if I could survive that kind of a hit, you know? survive that kind of a hit, you know? survive that kind of a hit, you know? But what a what a what a terrible lesson But what a what a what a terrible lesson But what a what a what a terrible lesson would I be teaching my kids? I know. would I be teaching my kids? I know. would I be teaching my kids? I know. >> You're right. >> You're right. >> You're right. >> It's so it's like one of those things >> It's so it's like one of those things >> It's so it's like one of those things that you just got to you got to you got that you just got to you got to you got that you just got to you got to you got to wrestle with a little bit. to wrestle with a little bit. to wrestle with a little bit. >> Yeah, get through it. You guys got to >> Yeah, get through it. You guys got to >> Yeah, get through it. You guys got to watch that just cuz you brought this up. watch that just cuz you brought this up. watch that just cuz you brought this up. I brought it up to I think the other I brought it up to I think the other I brought it up to I think the other day. Um day. Um day. Um >> I told my wife, I'm like, "If you saw me >> I told my wife, I'm like, "If you saw me >> I told my wife, I'm like, "If you saw me lose to a man in a fight, you would be lose to a man in a fight, you would be lose to a man in a fight, you would be so turned off. There's no way you would so turned off. There's no way you would so turned off. There's no way you would think I'm attractive. I'd get my ass think I'm attractive. I'd get my ass think I'm attractive. I'd get my ass kicked." kicked." kicked." >> I know. It's [laughter] It's got to be >> I know. It's [laughter] It's got to be >> I know. It's [laughter] It's got to be one of the worst things. one of the worst things. one of the worst things. >> side is if I win, like I'm hot, you >> side is if I win, like I'm hot, you >> side is if I win, like I'm hot, you know? know? know? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> But if I lose, >> But if I lose, >> But if I lose, >> I see you're like this. That's a big >> I see you're like this. That's a big >> I see you're like this. That's a big hit. hit. hit. >> But if some dude like dominates me >> But if some dude like dominates me >> But if some dude like dominates me >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> There's no in between, dude. >> There's no in between, dude. >> There's no in between, dude. >> We're going home and I'm doing the >> We're going home and I'm doing the >> We're going home and I'm doing the dishes. You're definitely not turned on by that. You're definitely not turned on by that. >> So I So I >> So I So I >> So I So I uh I've never been a big uh I've never been a big uh I've never been a big tennis watcher tennis watcher tennis watcher and I'm watching the documentary on Rafa and I'm watching the documentary on Rafa and I'm watching the documentary on Rafa Nadal and it's really good. And his Nadal and it's really good. And his Nadal and it's really good. And his story is crazy and his his rise and fall story is crazy and his his rise and fall story is crazy and his his rise and fall and his injuries and his comeback at and his injuries and his comeback at and his injuries and his comeback at like 38 years old trying to do it and like 38 years old trying to do it and like 38 years old trying to do it and he's got a kid all he wants to do he I he's got a kid all he wants to do he I he's got a kid all he wants to do he I mean I think he's won over 20 Grand mean I think he's won over 20 Grand mean I think he's won over 20 Grand Slams plus in his career. So he's like Slams plus in his career. So he's like Slams plus in his career. So he's like one of the one of the winningest one of the one of the winningest one of the one of the winningest players. Yeah, players. Yeah, players. Yeah, arguably one of the best of all time. Uh arguably one of the best of all time. Uh arguably one of the best of all time. Uh but then now 38 trying to come back do but then now 38 trying to come back do but then now 38 trying to come back do it has a son wants his kid to see him it has a son wants his kid to see him it has a son wants his kid to see him raise a a trophy and working through raise a a trophy and working through raise a a trophy and working through these injuries and you know, gets to these injuries and you know, gets to these injuries and you know, gets to plays one then gets hurt play it's like plays one then gets hurt play it's like plays one then gets hurt play it's like so watching that and I'm not all the way so watching that and I'm not all the way so watching that and I'm not all the way through it. So I'm still going it's through it. So I'm still going it's through it. So I'm still going it's really good and reminds me of a lot of really good and reminds me of a lot of really good and reminds me of a lot of what ego and all the relationship with what ego and all the relationship with what ego and all the relationship with it and everything like that. it and everything like that. it and everything like that. >> Nobody talks enough about what it's like >> Nobody talks enough about what it's like >> Nobody talks enough about what it's like cuz you know, you see someone compete at cuz you know, you see someone compete at cuz you know, you see someone compete at a high level and you think, "Oh, good a high level and you think, "Oh, good a high level and you think, "Oh, good for you." for you." for you." Nobody talks about what it's like for Nobody talks about what it's like for Nobody talks about what it's like for people when they reach a really high people when they reach a really high people when they reach a really high level level level and then they have to fall from that. and then they have to fall from that. and then they have to fall from that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, sports is a good example cuz >> You know, sports is a good example cuz >> You know, sports is a good example cuz uh especially with intense sports, you uh especially with intense sports, you uh especially with intense sports, you get older. I don't care how good you get older. I don't care how good you get older. I don't care how good you are, are, are, uh it's you're just going to be too old uh it's you're just going to be too old uh it's you're just going to be too old to compete against people who are to compete against people who are to compete against people who are younger than you. younger than you. younger than you. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> What a psychological >> What a psychological >> What a psychological uh torture that is. Like when you're the uh torture that is. Like when you're the uh torture that is. Like when you're the king, you're the best in the world, king, you're the best in the world, king, you're the best in the world, which is going to be a short period of which is going to be a short period of which is going to be a short period of time. Not going to be You're not going time. Not going to be You're not going time. Not going to be You're not going to be the best in the world for 20 to be the best in the world for 20 to be the best in the world for 20 years. It's going to be a short period years. It's going to be a short period years. It's going to be a short period of time. And then you go from that to of time. And then you go from that to of time. And then you go from that to I'm not anymore. I'm not anymore. I'm not anymore. >> Dude, I think >> Dude, I think >> Dude, I think >> What a cycle What a Like what a mind >> What a cycle What a Like what a mind >> What a cycle What a Like what a mind game. game. game. >> That's why I I really do think I feel >> That's why I I really do think I feel >> That's why I I really do think I feel like, you know, when when Tyson like like, you know, when when Tyson like like, you know, when when Tyson like goes back into the ring now and you're goes back into the ring now and you're goes back into the ring now and you're just like, "Oh, you just hurt." just like, "Oh, you just hurt." just like, "Oh, you just hurt." Like he is Conor McGregor, he's like, Like he is Conor McGregor, he's like, Like he is Conor McGregor, he's like, "Oh, I just get that like stomach ache "Oh, I just get that like stomach ache "Oh, I just get that like stomach ache cuz I know how they feel, dude." On on a cuz I know how they feel, dude." On on a cuz I know how they feel, dude." On on a very small level, obviously, not that very small level, obviously, not that very small level, obviously, not that high, but yeah, it's like, "Dude, oh, high, but yeah, it's like, "Dude, oh, high, but yeah, it's like, "Dude, oh, it's like you're not on you're not king it's like you're not on you're not king it's like you're not on you're not king of the world right now." of the world right now." of the world right now." >> Arthur Brooks talks about that. >> Arthur Brooks talks about that. >> Arthur Brooks talks about that. >> Well, what's crazy you're you're >> Well, what's crazy you're you're >> Well, what's crazy you're you're comparing to comparing to comparing to sports, but I actually think this is sports, but I actually think this is sports, but I actually think this is this is a thing that not a lot of people this is a thing that not a lot of people this is a thing that not a lot of people talk about if you're great at anything. talk about if you're great at anything. talk about if you're great at anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Anything. Name the the great some of our greatest Name the the great some of our greatest Name the the great some of our greatest CEOs and businessmen, how tortured they CEOs and businessmen, how tortured they CEOs and businessmen, how tortured they are. Some of our greatest minds in are. Some of our greatest minds in are. Some of our greatest minds in philosophy and whatever like that. philosophy and whatever like that. philosophy and whatever like that. The wealthiest of people like all these The wealthiest of people like all these The wealthiest of people like all these you get so great, you build your entire you get so great, you build your entire you get so great, you build your entire identity around that, and then you identity around that, and then you identity around that, and then you realize like when there's more other realize like when there's more other realize like when there's more other things and you want to try and pivot, things and you want to try and pivot, things and you want to try and pivot, like a whole world comes apart because like a whole world comes apart because like a whole world comes apart because you you invested so much in becoming you you invested so much in becoming you you invested so much in becoming >> That's who you are. >> That's who you are. >> That's who you are. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> you now? There's This is one of the >> you now? There's This is one of the >> you now? There's This is one of the reasons, not the only reason, but one of reasons, not the only reason, but one of reasons, not the only reason, but one of the reasons why the reasons why the reasons why young celebrities, children celebrities, young celebrities, children celebrities, young celebrities, children celebrities, don't do well. don't do well. don't do well. Because they're so famous and so popular Because they're so famous and so popular Because they're so famous and so popular and they're kids and they're cute and and they're kids and they're cute and and they're kids and they're cute and then they get older and nobody likes then they get older and nobody likes then they get older and nobody likes them like they used to. That is them like they used to. That is them like they used to. That is devastating. It's hard for an adult. You devastating. It's hard for an adult. You devastating. It's hard for an adult. You imagine a kid who grows up with that imagine a kid who grows up with that imagine a kid who grows up with that kind of attention and glory kind of attention and glory kind of attention and glory and then suddenly it's gone. Oh, that's and then suddenly it's gone. Oh, that's and then suddenly it's gone. Oh, that's going to destroy you. going to destroy you. going to destroy you. >> Yeah, that'll crush you. >> Yeah, that'll crush you. >> Yeah, that'll crush you. >> Yeah, that's right. So, I I think it >> Yeah, that's right. So, I I think it >> Yeah, that's right. So, I I think it transcends sports. I think sports transcends sports. I think sports transcends sports. I think sports >> I use sports cuz it's such an easy >> I use sports cuz it's such an easy >> I use sports cuz it's such an easy example. example. example. >> Yeah, it's it's an easy one, but I mean >> Yeah, it's it's an easy one, but I mean >> Yeah, it's it's an easy one, but I mean it mean I've seen this in like so many it mean I've seen this in like so many it mean I've seen this in like so many different disciplines. It's just like different disciplines. It's just like different disciplines. It's just like it's not just that. It's like you it's not just that. It's like you it's not just that. It's like you you wrap your identity up in this you wrap your identity up in this you wrap your identity up in this whatever this thing. I mean intellects. whatever this thing. I mean intellects. whatever this thing. I mean intellects. You see it you see it whenever and that You see it you see it whenever and that You see it you see it whenever and that and right away we were it's so and right away we were it's so and right away we were it's so interesting how we we are interesting how we we are interesting how we we are the way we're made up to almost admire the way we're made up to almost admire the way we're made up to almost admire these outliers, right? We look up and do these outliers, right? We look up and do these outliers, right? We look up and do we put them on these pedestals we put them on these pedestals we put them on these pedestals regardless of what category it is. What regardless of what category it is. What regardless of what category it is. What name the thing you're into. Musicians, name the thing you're into. Musicians, name the thing you're into. Musicians, all of it, right? And it's like but in all of it, right? And it's like but in all of it, right? And it's like but in but do you have no idea the sacrifice but do you have no idea the sacrifice but do you have no idea the sacrifice they've made, the tort the inner torture they've made, the tort the inner torture they've made, the tort the inner torture they have, the future they have ahead of they have, the future they have ahead of they have, the future they have ahead of them when they are no longer playing the them when they are no longer playing the them when they are no longer playing the music or playing the sport or they've music or playing the sport or they've music or playing the sport or they've made all the money and it doesn't matter made all the money and it doesn't matter made all the money and it doesn't matter anymore. They've done all the talks, anymore. They've done all the talks, anymore. They've done all the talks, wrote all the books. Name the thing and wrote all the books. Name the thing and wrote all the books. Name the thing and then like then life hits them and it's then like then life hits them and it's then like then life hits them and it's like no one talks about that side of it. like no one talks about that side of it. like no one talks about that side of it. We make all the documentaries about the We make all the documentaries about the We make all the documentaries about the the cool part of it, you know what I'm the cool part of it, you know what I'm the cool part of it, you know what I'm saying and highlight it and we all chase saying and highlight it and we all chase saying and highlight it and we all chase it and we have all you have so many it and we have all you have so many it and we have all you have so many people that are that envy it and want people that are that envy it and want people that are that envy it and want it. It's like that you wouldn't though. it. It's like that you wouldn't though. it. It's like that you wouldn't though. >> Arthur Brooks talks about this loosely. >> Arthur Brooks talks about this loosely. >> Arthur Brooks talks about this loosely. I forgot what the book is called. It's I forgot what the book is called. It's I forgot what the book is called. It's one of more recent books, but he talks one of more recent books, but he talks one of more recent books, but he talks about like that this split that happens about like that this split that happens about like that this split that happens after retirement after retirement after retirement where like half of them I don't know where like half of them I don't know where like half of them I don't know what percentage, but a large percentage what percentage, but a large percentage what percentage, but a large percentage of people their health declines, quality of people their health declines, quality of people their health declines, quality of life declines. And then some of them of life declines. And then some of them of life declines. And then some of them have this improvement quality of life. have this improvement quality of life. have this improvement quality of life. And the difference is And the difference is And the difference is that people who do well go from doing to that people who do well go from doing to that people who do well go from doing to teaching. teaching. teaching. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, like let's say you're in a in a >> So, like let's say you're in a in a >> So, like let's say you're in a in a sport and you achieve certain level of sport and you achieve certain level of sport and you achieve certain level of success where you're doing really good success where you're doing really good success where you're doing really good and then you get older and you don't and then you get older and you don't and then you get older and you don't necessarily have like you could coach necessarily have like you could coach necessarily have like you could coach other people. other people. other people. And then you'll find a similar And then you'll find a similar And then you'll find a similar appreciation. Sometimes more. It's like appreciation. Sometimes more. It's like appreciation. Sometimes more. It's like um um um what's that Rocky? Is it Rocky V where what's that Rocky? Is it Rocky V where what's that Rocky? Is it Rocky V where he trains Tommy Gunn? It's like one of he trains Tommy Gunn? It's like one of he trains Tommy Gunn? It's like one of the worst movies. the worst movies. the worst movies. >> Only [laughter] you Only you could tie >> Only [laughter] you Only you could tie >> Only [laughter] you Only you could tie this into a Rocky movie. this into a Rocky movie. this into a Rocky movie. >> There's a lot of lessons in Rocky. >> There's a lot of lessons in Rocky. >> There's a lot of lessons in Rocky. So many good lessons. So many good lessons. So many good lessons. But remember he's coaching But remember he's coaching But remember he's coaching >> I was about to connect it to Carl Jung >> I was about to connect it to Carl Jung >> I was about to connect it to Carl Jung cuz I I I sent a thing to the boys the cuz I I I sent a thing to the boys the cuz I I I sent a thing to the boys the other day and and Carl Jung I makes me other day and and Carl Jung I makes me other day and and Carl Jung I makes me want to read the the whole book but I want to read the the whole book but I want to read the the whole book but I had this excerpt from it that I sent to had this excerpt from it that I sent to had this excerpt from it that I sent to the guys about uh you know your back the guys about uh you know your back the guys about uh you know your back half your first front 40 versus your half your first front 40 versus your half your first front 40 versus your back 40 of life and and and basically back 40 of life and and and basically back 40 of life and and and basically the message I'm sending to our young the message I'm sending to our young the message I'm sending to our young guys that it just gets better from here. guys that it just gets better from here. guys that it just gets better from here. Like 40 on is so much better 40 to to Like 40 on is so much better 40 to to Like 40 on is so much better 40 to to death is so much better than zero to 40 death is so much better than zero to 40 death is so much better than zero to 40 and so you have so much more of life. and so you have so much more of life. and so you have so much more of life. And he Carl Jung's point is that the And he Carl Jung's point is that the And he Carl Jung's point is that the first 40 years is all education, first 40 years is all education, first 40 years is all education, experimental, learning about yourself, experimental, learning about yourself, experimental, learning about yourself, learning about life. It's like so much learning about life. It's like so much learning about life. It's like so much of that and there's a lot of pain and of that and there's a lot of pain and of that and there's a lot of pain and growth that comes in there and the back growth that comes in there and the back growth that comes in there and the back 40 is the enjoyment piece of that and 40 is the enjoyment piece of that and 40 is the enjoyment piece of that and learning how to enjoy that which ties learning how to enjoy that which ties learning how to enjoy that which ties into our other books. Part of learning into our other books. Part of learning into our other books. Part of learning how to do that is passing that on and how to do that is passing that on and how to do that is passing that on and teaching and you know a different a teaching and you know a different a teaching and you know a different a different level with the back of the different level with the back of the different level with the back of the back back back >> it's so fun to have trainers work for >> it's so fun to have trainers work for >> it's so fun to have trainers work for us. us. us. Cuz we get to train them. We get to work Cuz we get to train them. We get to work Cuz we get to train them. We get to work with them on how to be better coaches with them on how to be better coaches with them on how to be better coaches and I I swear I've said this before and I I swear I've said this before and I I swear I've said this before I have never had a group of trainers I have never had a group of trainers I have never had a group of trainers get so good so quickly. A lot of that is get so good so quickly. A lot of that is get so good so quickly. A lot of that is leadership. We have incredible leadership. We have incredible leadership. We have incredible leadership here but also the tools that leadership here but also the tools that leadership here but also the tools that we have to teach them. we have to teach them. we have to teach them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We didn't didn't exist when we were >> We didn't didn't exist when we were >> We didn't didn't exist when we were when we were training people. when we were training people. when we were training people. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Um that now we have to where they can >> Um that now we have to where they can >> Um that now we have to where they can review calls and they can actually see review calls and they can actually see review calls and they can actually see in real time and and afterwards what's in real time and and afterwards what's in real time and and afterwards what's happening. happening. happening. But they're so good but it's so But they're so good but it's so But they're so good but it's so rewarding to coach these coaches on rewarding to coach these coaches on rewarding to coach these coaches on being good coaches and then to hear the being good coaches and then to hear the being good coaches and then to hear the feedback and to see what's going on. feedback and to see what's going on. feedback and to see what's going on. >> I was literally just thinking about this >> I was literally just thinking about this >> I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. I was going over like yesterday. I was going over like yesterday. I was going over like quarterly stuff and just reviewing the quarterly stuff and just reviewing the quarterly stuff and just reviewing the business things and I'm like man it's business things and I'm like man it's business things and I'm like man it's feel so blessed that we got to spend the feel so blessed that we got to spend the feel so blessed that we got to spend the first 10 years of of building this first 10 years of of building this first 10 years of of building this focused around helping others and like focused around helping others and like focused around helping others and like everybody like as far as like that everybody like as far as like that everybody like as far as like that listen to the podcast and that buy maps listen to the podcast and that buy maps listen to the podcast and that buy maps programs and I feel like this we're programs and I feel like this we're programs and I feel like this we're making this transition now and it's so making this transition now and it's so making this transition now and it's so much more focused on the coaches that much more focused on the coaches that much more focused on the coaches that are also still impacting all those are also still impacting all those are also still impacting all those people but it's it's a different shift. people but it's it's a different shift. people but it's it's a different shift. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> And uh and what's cool, you know, >> And uh and what's cool, you know, >> And uh and what's cool, you know, selfishly uh feels even more impactful selfishly uh feels even more impactful selfishly uh feels even more impactful because we we can see the coaches. because we we can see the coaches. because we we can see the coaches. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Where when we are on here and we talk, >> Where when we are on here and we talk, >> Where when we are on here and we talk, even though we know we get to hear every even though we know we get to hear every even though we know we get to hear every once in a while or we did live events, once in a while or we did live events, once in a while or we did live events, we get a little bits of feedback. Where we get a little bits of feedback. Where we get a little bits of feedback. Where we have all these coaches in here now we have all these coaches in here now we have all these coaches in here now like every day. Every day we're hearing like every day. Every day we're hearing like every day. Every day we're hearing seeing stories or we're getting to to seeing stories or we're getting to to seeing stories or we're getting to to pop into zoom calls and say hi to the pop into zoom calls and say hi to the pop into zoom calls and say hi to the clients that they're impacting and clients that they're impacting and clients that they're impacting and working with and so what a cool uh working with and so what a cool uh working with and so what a cool uh rewarding transition that this thing has rewarding transition that this thing has rewarding transition that this thing has gone into and gone into and gone into and >> I've had more I we've had fun this whole >> I've had more I we've had fun this whole >> I've had more I we've had fun this whole time but I have even more fun now time but I have even more fun now time but I have even more fun now >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> than I ever did before which is wild. >> than I ever did before which is wild. >> than I ever did before which is wild. >> I mean, I've never been able to say >> I mean, I've never been able to say >> I mean, I've never been able to say that. I've never been able to say that that. I've never been able to say that that. I've never been able to say that uh you know, over a decade into doing uh you know, over a decade into doing uh you know, over a decade into doing something that I I love it more than I something that I I love it more than I something that I I love it more than I did day one. That's did day one. That's did day one. That's That's wild. That never happened to me. That's wild. That never happened to me. That's wild. That never happened to me. >> Yeah. It was always getting boring. >> Yeah. It was always getting boring. >> Yeah. It was always getting boring. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I know. I was looking for something else >> I know. I was looking for something else >> I know. 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Back to the flavors with any purchase. Back to the flavors with any purchase. Back to the show. show. show. Our first question is from Chell's Lab. Our first question is from Chell's Lab. Our first question is from Chell's Lab. What is optimal body fat percentage and What is optimal body fat percentage and What is optimal body fat percentage and muscle mass for women? How do you know muscle mass for women? How do you know muscle mass for women? How do you know when to stop when it's not for when to stop when it's not for when to stop when it's not for aesthetics? So, there's there's two ways aesthetics? So, there's there's two ways aesthetics? So, there's there's two ways to look at this. One of them is to look at this. One of them is to look at this. One of them is backwards and the other way is the right backwards and the other way is the right backwards and the other way is the right way to look at it. So, the backwards way way to look at it. So, the backwards way way to look at it. So, the backwards way is to constantly test your body fat is to constantly test your body fat is to constantly test your body fat percentage and muscle mass and try to percentage and muscle mass and try to percentage and muscle mass and try to hit some kind of target. hit some kind of target. hit some kind of target. That's the backwards way. The right way That's the backwards way. The right way That's the backwards way. The right way to do it is to do the right things and to do it is to do the right things and to do it is to do the right things and allow your body to fall where it's going allow your body to fall where it's going allow your body to fall where it's going to fall. And the reason why I'm saying to fall. And the reason why I'm saying to fall. And the reason why I'm saying that is because I can give a range. that is because I can give a range. that is because I can give a range. Look, I can give a range right now and Look, I can give a range right now and Look, I can give a range right now and say say say for most women a healthy for most women a healthy for most women a healthy body fat percentage with good hormones body fat percentage with good hormones body fat percentage with good hormones and good lean mass and all that stuff and good lean mass and all that stuff and good lean mass and all that stuff and fitness is probably going to be and fitness is probably going to be and fitness is probably going to be somewhere in the low 20s body fat somewhere in the low 20s body fat somewhere in the low 20s body fat between 20 to let's say 25 26% body fat between 20 to let's say 25 26% body fat between 20 to let's say 25 26% body fat give or take. But uh there's a wide give or take. But uh there's a wide give or take. But uh there's a wide variance there. variance there. variance there. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And I think if a woman was eating whole >> And I think if a woman was eating whole >> And I think if a woman was eating whole natural foods, getting good sleep, she natural foods, getting good sleep, she natural foods, getting good sleep, she was exercising appropriately, and she was exercising appropriately, and she was exercising appropriately, and she was doing that for a long enough period was doing that for a long enough period was doing that for a long enough period of time, her body will will fall to of time, her body will will fall to of time, her body will will fall to where it's supposed to be and that's the where it's supposed to be and that's the where it's supposed to be and that's the ideal place that she needs to be. What ideal place that she needs to be. What ideal place that she needs to be. What happens when you do this backwards is I happens when you do this backwards is I happens when you do this backwards is I start chasing a body fat percentage start chasing a body fat percentage start chasing a body fat percentage um and I'm like, "Well, I'm supposed to um and I'm like, "Well, I'm supposed to um and I'm like, "Well, I'm supposed to be I know they said low 20s. I'm at 24. be I know they said low 20s. I'm at 24. be I know they said low 20s. I'm at 24. Maybe it should be 20." Maybe it should be 20." Maybe it should be 20." And you start pressing into that. And you start pressing into that. And you start pressing into that. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but then you start doing things that aren't then you start doing things that aren't then you start doing things that aren't necessarily uh better for consistency necessarily uh better for consistency necessarily uh better for consistency and longevity. So, I think where you and longevity. So, I think where you and longevity. So, I think where you fall is uh is going to be a result of of fall is uh is going to be a result of of fall is uh is going to be a result of of how you get there. I think you should how you get there. I think you should how you get there. I think you should just focus on how you get there rather just focus on how you get there rather just focus on how you get there rather than the result. than the result. than the result. >> In other words, building healthy >> In other words, building healthy >> In other words, building healthy behaviors around nutrition and exercise behaviors around nutrition and exercise behaviors around nutrition and exercise and movement and you should kind of and movement and you should kind of and movement and you should kind of naturally fall there. And I think I I naturally fall there. And I think I I naturally fall there. And I think I I agree with that cuz I I've seen um agree with that cuz I I've seen um agree with that cuz I I've seen um probably like probably like probably like the good examples a lot of in from 18 to the good examples a lot of in from 18 to the good examples a lot of in from 18 to 24 for women. 24 for women. 24 for women. I've seen I've seen some women be able I've seen I've seen some women be able I've seen I've seen some women be able to hold 18% naturally just eating good, to hold 18% naturally just eating good, to hold 18% naturally just eating good, exercising, balance. exercising, balance. exercising, balance. >> I've seen as high as 28, 29 even. >> I've seen as high as 28, 29 even. >> I've seen as high as 28, 29 even. >> And I've and and then all the way up >> And I've and and then all the way up >> And I've and and then all the way up into probably the mid-20s. into probably the mid-20s. into probably the mid-20s. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that could look very different on >> And that could look very different on >> And that could look very different on everybody's type. everybody's type. everybody's type. >> And so going for a look or a body fat >> And so going for a look or a body fat >> And so going for a look or a body fat percentage because we say this is a good percentage because we say this is a good percentage because we say this is a good place is a really tough thing to answer place is a really tough thing to answer place is a really tough thing to answer somebody. A much better approach is eat somebody. A much better approach is eat somebody. A much better approach is eat whole foods, hit your protein targets, whole foods, hit your protein targets, whole foods, hit your protein targets, strength train three times a week, make strength train three times a week, make strength train three times a week, make an effort to get 8 to 10,000 steps a an effort to get 8 to 10,000 steps a an effort to get 8 to 10,000 steps a day, make sure you do things that you day, make sure you do things that you day, make sure you do things that you love to do and enjoy, have balance in love to do and enjoy, have balance in love to do and enjoy, have balance in your relationship. It's like and then your relationship. It's like and then your relationship. It's like and then guess see where you fall. And do that guess see where you fall. And do that guess see where you fall. And do that consistently. consistently. consistently. >> and health markers are like your north >> and health markers are like your north >> and health markers are like your north star. star. star. >> And if you do that consistently, cuz >> And if you do that consistently, cuz >> And if you do that consistently, cuz that's the other thing is if you have that's the other thing is if you have that's the other thing is if you have these swings of I do that for a while, these swings of I do that for a while, these swings of I do that for a while, but then I eat like crap and I don't do but then I eat like crap and I don't do but then I eat like crap and I don't do these things then it's like it's hard these things then it's like it's hard these things then it's like it's hard and then that question comes up where and then that question comes up where and then that question comes up where it's like really try and just be it's like really try and just be it's like really try and just be consistent about that and and watch consistent about that and and watch consistent about that and and watch where your where your where your >> it puts you. >> it puts you. >> it puts you. >> Yeah, and see where it puts you and >> Yeah, and see where it puts you and >> Yeah, and see where it puts you and that's probably a good healthy place. that's probably a good healthy place. that's probably a good healthy place. >> Next question is from Nora Tulapriv. How >> Next question is from Nora Tulapriv. How >> Next question is from Nora Tulapriv. How do you increase the maintenance calories do you increase the maintenance calories do you increase the maintenance calories without gaining too much fat while without gaining too much fat while without gaining too much fat while simultaneously cutting down cardio? simultaneously cutting down cardio? simultaneously cutting down cardio? >> Yeah, by building muscle. >> Yeah, by building muscle. >> Yeah, by building muscle. >> So you increase your calories, you cut >> So you increase your calories, you cut >> So you increase your calories, you cut down cardio, you make strength the down cardio, you make strength the down cardio, you make strength the focus, focus, focus, the extra calories go to muscle. the extra calories go to muscle. the extra calories go to muscle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh and so you don't gain too much body >> Uh and so you don't gain too much body >> Uh and so you don't gain too much body fat. Now I do want to be clear, some fat. Now I do want to be clear, some fat. Now I do want to be clear, some people need to gain body fat. people need to gain body fat. people need to gain body fat. So if this is a woman who's asking and So if this is a woman who's asking and So if this is a woman who's asking and she's walking around at 15% body fat, she's walking around at 15% body fat, she's walking around at 15% body fat, we're probably going to need to increase we're probably going to need to increase we're probably going to need to increase your body fat percentage uh to make you your body fat percentage uh to make you your body fat percentage uh to make you healthier and give you better healthier and give you better healthier and give you better performance. Not a lot, but you probably performance. Not a lot, but you probably performance. Not a lot, but you probably need to get yourself up to closer to 20. need to get yourself up to closer to 20. need to get yourself up to closer to 20. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> But that being said, it's about building >> But that being said, it's about building >> But that being said, it's about building the muscle. So if you Here's what the muscle. So if you Here's what the muscle. So if you Here's what [clears throat] often happens. Often [clears throat] often happens. Often [clears throat] often happens. Often times I get someone like this, they're times I get someone like this, they're times I get someone like this, they're afraid of increasing their calories. I afraid of increasing their calories. I afraid of increasing their calories. I do what what saying, we cut down their do what what saying, we cut down their do what what saying, we cut down their cardio cuz they're doing too much of it. cardio cuz they're doing too much of it. cardio cuz they're doing too much of it. I bump their calories, we focus on I bump their calories, we focus on I bump their calories, we focus on strength, and they're blown away by how strength, and they're blown away by how strength, and they're blown away by how [snorts] little or no body fat they [snorts] little or no body fat they [snorts] little or no body fat they gain. They're absolutely I can't believe gain. They're absolutely I can't believe gain. They're absolutely I can't believe I'm not gaining any body fat. I'm eating I'm not gaining any body fat. I'm eating I'm not gaining any body fat. I'm eating 800 more calories. Okay, but what else 800 more calories. Okay, but what else 800 more calories. Okay, but what else are you noticing? Well, I'm way are you noticing? Well, I'm way are you noticing? Well, I'm way stronger. I'm lifting more weight. Uh I stronger. I'm lifting more weight. Uh I stronger. I'm lifting more weight. Uh I did gain a couple pounds on the scale, did gain a couple pounds on the scale, did gain a couple pounds on the scale, but seems to be all muscle. So, it's but seems to be all muscle. So, it's but seems to be all muscle. So, it's really about really about really about aiming it towards muscle by sending the aiming it towards muscle by sending the aiming it towards muscle by sending the right signal, um training appropriately, right signal, um training appropriately, right signal, um training appropriately, and then that's where those calories end and then that's where those calories end and then that's where those calories end up going. up going. up going. >> Yeah. I'd be interested to hear what uh >> Yeah. I'd be interested to hear what uh >> Yeah. I'd be interested to hear what uh cutting down cardio is where you're cutting down cardio is where you're cutting down cardio is where you're coming from. Because this this could coming from. Because this this could coming from. Because this this could also be challenging, too, if you if cuz also be challenging, too, if you if cuz also be challenging, too, if you if cuz somebody could say something like this somebody could say something like this somebody could say something like this to me, and and their cardio is training to me, and and their cardio is training to me, and and their cardio is training for a marathon every week, and their for a marathon every week, and their for a marathon every week, and their cutting down is still cutting down is still cutting down is still >> Too much. >> Too much. >> Too much. >> Yeah, still too much, and they're trying >> Yeah, still too much, and they're trying >> Yeah, still too much, and they're trying to reverse diet and build muscle. This to reverse diet and build muscle. This to reverse diet and build muscle. This can be difficult. If you're still can be difficult. If you're still can be difficult. If you're still sending a louder signal of cardio than sending a louder signal of cardio than sending a louder signal of cardio than you are of building muscle, this could you are of building muscle, this could you are of building muscle, this could be a challenge for you to build muscle. be a challenge for you to build muscle. be a challenge for you to build muscle. And so, I would be interested to hear And so, I would be interested to hear And so, I would be interested to hear exactly where that's at. Um exactly where that's at. Um exactly where that's at. Um normally, what I like to do is whatever normally, what I like to do is whatever normally, what I like to do is whatever my cuz normally, people are doing 3 to 5 my cuz normally, people are doing 3 to 5 my cuz normally, people are doing 3 to 5 hours of cardio a week, I like to switch hours of cardio a week, I like to switch hours of cardio a week, I like to switch that immediately from cardio to walking. that immediately from cardio to walking. that immediately from cardio to walking. And focus on building muscle. And focus on building muscle. And focus on building muscle. >> And >> And >> And >> Walking's a great form of >> Walking's a great form of >> Walking's a great form of activity for muscle building. activity for muscle building. activity for muscle building. >> And it's not such a drastic cut in >> And it's not such a drastic cut in >> And it's not such a drastic cut in movement and calorie burn that they're movement and calorie burn that they're movement and calorie burn that they're going to see this massive weight gain, going to see this massive weight gain, going to see this massive weight gain, especially if we shift over to strength especially if we shift over to strength especially if we shift over to strength training, and we we do a small increase training, and we we do a small increase training, and we we do a small increase in calories, then most all those extra in calories, then most all those extra in calories, then most all those extra calories will get partitioned over calories will get partitioned over calories will get partitioned over building muscle, metabolism will speed building muscle, metabolism will speed building muscle, metabolism will speed up, and we shouldn't see any real fat up, and we shouldn't see any real fat up, and we shouldn't see any real fat gain over the course of we look at it gain over the course of we look at it gain over the course of we look at it over a 30- or 60-day window, uh it'll be over a 30- or 60-day window, uh it'll be over a 30- or 60-day window, uh it'll be a nice transition. But, still trying to a nice transition. But, still trying to a nice transition. But, still trying to maintain some cardio cuz I don't want to maintain some cardio cuz I don't want to maintain some cardio cuz I don't want to put fat on, sometimes can send a put fat on, sometimes can send a put fat on, sometimes can send a conflicting signal of what we're trying conflicting signal of what we're trying conflicting signal of what we're trying to do. We're trying to reverse diet, to do. We're trying to reverse diet, to do. We're trying to reverse diet, we're trying to build muscle, but you're we're trying to build muscle, but you're we're trying to build muscle, but you're still hanging on to the cardio, still hanging on to the cardio, still hanging on to the cardio, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> you know, a little bit, and a little bit >> you know, a little bit, and a little bit >> you know, a little bit, and a little bit to you is half of what you're doing to you is half of what you're doing to you is half of what you're doing before, but but what you're before, but but what you're before, but but what you're >> 10-15 miles a week. >> 10-15 miles a week. >> 10-15 miles a week. >> what you were doing before was marathon >> what you were doing before was marathon >> what you were doing before was marathon training, which is still ridiculous. So, training, which is still ridiculous. So, training, which is still ridiculous. So, I'd want to know more to be even more I'd want to know more to be even more I'd want to know more to be even more precise on what I'd prescribe here. precise on what I'd prescribe here. precise on what I'd prescribe here. >> Next question is from Matthew with >> Next question is from Matthew with >> Next question is from Matthew with faith. What movements should I faith. What movements should I faith. What movements should I concentrate on to help fix my forward concentrate on to help fix my forward concentrate on to help fix my forward rolled shoulder? rolled shoulder? rolled shoulder? >> I'm going to be >> I'm going to be >> I'm going to be I'm going to be just to be clear, you I'm going to be just to be clear, you I'm going to be just to be clear, you could do what I'm about to say in a way could do what I'm about to say in a way could do what I'm about to say in a way that will make your forward shoulders that will make your forward shoulders that will make your forward shoulders worse. Okay? So, typically it's rows. worse. Okay? So, typically it's rows. worse. Okay? So, typically it's rows. Typically it's all rows or row Typically it's all rows or row Typically it's all rows or row variations. Now, here's variations. Now, here's variations. Now, here's the key. The key is that you pull your the key. The key is that you pull your the key. The key is that you pull your shoulder blades back and down while you shoulder blades back and down while you shoulder blades back and down while you do the row. So, I can pull and do a row do the row. So, I can pull and do a row do the row. So, I can pull and do a row with forward shoulder and just use my with forward shoulder and just use my with forward shoulder and just use my lats lats lats >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> and actually make my forward shoulder >> and actually make my forward shoulder >> and actually make my forward shoulder worse. worse. worse. The key, again, you got to bring If you The key, again, you got to bring If you The key, again, you got to bring If you look at your shoulder blades, they need look at your shoulder blades, they need look at your shoulder blades, they need to come back and down, and that's what to come back and down, and that's what to come back and down, and that's what corrects or strengthens that kind of corrects or strengthens that kind of corrects or strengthens that kind of tall posture. Look, what we're what tall posture. Look, what we're what tall posture. Look, what we're what we're trying to strengthen are the we're trying to strengthen are the we're trying to strengthen are the rhomboids and mid to lower trapezius rhomboids and mid to lower trapezius rhomboids and mid to lower trapezius muscles, which are the ones that bring muscles, which are the ones that bring muscles, which are the ones that bring the shoulder blades back and down. If I the shoulder blades back and down. If I the shoulder blades back and down. If I don't do that, I can pull with my lats. don't do that, I can pull with my lats. don't do that, I can pull with my lats. I can pull a lot of weight with my lats, I can pull a lot of weight with my lats, I can pull a lot of weight with my lats, but it's not going to fix the issue that but it's not going to fix the issue that but it's not going to fix the issue that we're talking about here. we're talking about here. we're talking about here. >> I love doing >> I love doing >> I love doing uh just just having weights in my hands uh just just having weights in my hands uh just just having weights in my hands and like creating that posture position and like creating that posture position and like creating that posture position you're you're describing. you're you're describing. you're you're describing. >> Like a farmer walk? >> Like a farmer walk? >> Like a farmer walk? >> Like a farmer walk, but even before >> Like a farmer walk, but even before >> Like a farmer walk, but even before walking is just holding isometrically walking is just holding isometrically walking is just holding isometrically holding the weights. holding the weights. holding the weights. >> Setting them down is even a primer or >> Setting them down is even a primer or >> Setting them down is even a primer or just to kind of like spark that that just to kind of like spark that that just to kind of like spark that that that connection there. So, to your point that connection there. So, to your point that connection there. So, to your point is if you're just doing rows and you're is if you're just doing rows and you're is if you're just doing rows and you're not really conscious of what's happening not really conscious of what's happening not really conscious of what's happening with your shoulders as you're rowing, we with your shoulders as you're rowing, we with your shoulders as you're rowing, we could be reinforcing that uh bad could be reinforcing that uh bad could be reinforcing that uh bad pattern. But, you know, I like to start pattern. But, you know, I like to start pattern. But, you know, I like to start with that, and then, you know, I do like with that, and then, you know, I do like with that, and then, you know, I do like to incorporate quite a bit of farmer to incorporate quite a bit of farmer to incorporate quite a bit of farmer walks with really good upright postural walks with really good upright postural walks with really good upright postural positioning. positioning. positioning. >> I would I would prescribe um prone >> I would I would prescribe um prone >> I would I would prescribe um prone cobras and band pull-aparts almost cobras and band pull-aparts almost cobras and band pull-aparts almost daily. daily. daily. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To get [clears throat] them to get that >> To get [clears throat] them to get that >> To get [clears throat] them to get that get that that scapular articulation down get that that scapular articulation down get that that scapular articulation down and we're not like we're not going to be and we're not like we're not going to be and we're not like we're not going to be breaking down anything that I can't do breaking down anything that I can't do breaking down anything that I can't do so they can do it daily and practicing so they can do it daily and practicing so they can do it daily and practicing that and then doing what both of you are that and then doing what both of you are that and then doing what both of you are saying as far as your strength building saying as far as your strength building saying as far as your strength building exercises in your routines. Uh because exercises in your routines. Uh because exercises in your routines. Uh because depending on how bad the forward depending on how bad the forward depending on how bad the forward shoulders and stuff like that, if you shoulders and stuff like that, if you shoulders and stuff like that, if you just go right to a movement like rows to just go right to a movement like rows to just go right to a movement like rows to your point, it's been many clients your point, it's been many clients your point, it's been many clients before I've seen there they're rowing before I've seen there they're rowing before I've seen there they're rowing with their arms. with their arms. with their arms. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> And they're they're not articulating >> And they're they're not articulating >> And they're they're not articulating >> You got to actually literally physically >> You got to actually literally physically >> You got to actually literally physically move their shoulders back. move their shoulders back. move their shoulders back. >> Yes. And and so and that'll just >> Yes. And and so and that'll just >> Yes. And and so and that'll just exacerbate the problem especially they exacerbate the problem especially they exacerbate the problem especially they get strong doing it that way. Um and so get strong doing it that way. Um and so get strong doing it that way. Um and so doing good priming stuff like prone doing good priming stuff like prone doing good priming stuff like prone cobras, band pull apart stuff on a daily cobras, band pull apart stuff on a daily cobras, band pull apart stuff on a daily basis uh frequently if you can. basis uh frequently if you can. basis uh frequently if you can. And then when you get to the strength And then when you get to the strength And then when you get to the strength building type stuff, doing those farmer building type stuff, doing those farmer building type stuff, doing those farmer walks where you really articulate the walks where you really articulate the walks where you really articulate the scapula back, doing the seated rows and scapula back, doing the seated rows and scapula back, doing the seated rows and bent over rows uh is going to be the key bent over rows uh is going to be the key bent over rows uh is going to be the key to this for sure. to this for sure. to this for sure. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Totally. >> Next question is from More Life Jojo. >> Next question is from More Life Jojo. >> Next question is from More Life Jojo. What was an ethical situation you faced What was an ethical situation you faced What was an ethical situation you faced as a trainer and how did you handle it? as a trainer and how did you handle it? as a trainer and how did you handle it? What do you think are common ethical What do you think are common ethical What do you think are common ethical situations trainers encounter? situations trainers encounter? situations trainers encounter? >> the obvious, you know, stereotype where >> the obvious, you know, stereotype where >> the obvious, you know, stereotype where the trainer has a romantic relationship the trainer has a romantic relationship the trainer has a romantic relationship with their client. Um and we don't need with their client. Um and we don't need with their client. Um and we don't need to go there cuz I think everybody's to go there cuz I think everybody's to go there cuz I think everybody's like, yeah, don't do that. like, yeah, don't do that. like, yeah, don't do that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh so that's obvious. >> Uh so that's obvious. >> Uh so that's obvious. >> Don't bang your client. >> Don't bang your client. >> Don't bang your client. >> But I'm going to speak to a less obvious >> But I'm going to speak to a less obvious >> But I'm going to speak to a less obvious one that I guarantee you some trainers one that I guarantee you some trainers one that I guarantee you some trainers going to listen to this and disagree going to listen to this and disagree going to listen to this and disagree with me. Uh but I'm going to just I'm with me. Uh but I'm going to just I'm with me. Uh but I'm going to just I'm going to sell it. Okay, because this is going to sell it. Okay, because this is going to sell it. Okay, because this is 100% true. 100% true. 100% true. You have to always and I made this You have to always and I made this You have to always and I made this mistake many times. You have to always mistake many times. You have to always mistake many times. You have to always maintain a separation, a professional maintain a separation, a professional maintain a separation, a professional separation between you and your clients. separation between you and your clients. separation between you and your clients. And this is why it's so difficult. When And this is why it's so difficult. When And this is why it's so difficult. When you train people for 10 years, you when you train people for 10 years, you when you train people for 10 years, you when you see them twice a week for 10 years, you see them twice a week for 10 years, you see them twice a week for 10 years, you know them. They know you and it's you know them. They know you and it's you know them. They know you and it's very difficult. That that professional very difficult. That that professional very difficult. That that professional line it's it's so easy to blur it line it's it's so easy to blur it line it's it's so easy to blur it because because because you've known this person for a decade or you've known this person for a decade or you've known this person for a decade or even if it's just a year or two years even if it's just a year or two years even if it's just a year or two years and you want to hang out with them and and you want to hang out with them and and you want to hang out with them and you want to do things outside of the gym you want to do things outside of the gym you want to do things outside of the gym and you want to go on trips with them and you want to go on trips with them and you want to go on trips with them and you want to and you end up having a and you want to and you end up having a and you want to and you end up having a a a relationship that's both a a relationship that's both a a relationship that's both professional but then also not professional but then also not professional but then also not professional. And I'm going to say this professional. And I'm going to say this professional. And I'm going to say this right now, it will hamper your right now, it will hamper your right now, it will hamper your effectiveness as a trainer if you blur effectiveness as a trainer if you blur effectiveness as a trainer if you blur that line. When this person starts to that line. When this person starts to that line. When this person starts to see you outside of this kind of see you outside of this kind of see you outside of this kind of professional relationship, like we're professional relationship, like we're professional relationship, like we're just buddies, just buddies, just buddies, your effectiveness actually starts to your effectiveness actually starts to your effectiveness actually starts to drop. You'll still maintain your drop. You'll still maintain your drop. You'll still maintain your friendship with them uh but your friendship with them uh but your friendship with them uh but your effectiveness starts to drop. So, how do effectiveness starts to drop. So, how do effectiveness starts to drop. So, how do you maintain that? Well, um and I had no you maintain that? Well, um and I had no you maintain that? Well, um and I had no problem with knowing my clients' problem with knowing my clients' problem with knowing my clients' families and my clients knowing my families and my clients knowing my families and my clients knowing my families, but it would happen with families, but it would happen with families, but it would happen with professional events. I'd have events at professional events. I'd have events at professional events. I'd have events at my gym. I'd invite my [snorts] family, my gym. I'd invite my [snorts] family, my gym. I'd invite my [snorts] family, they'd meet my kids and stuff like that. they'd meet my kids and stuff like that. they'd meet my kids and stuff like that. But I didn't go travel with my clients But I didn't go travel with my clients But I didn't go travel with my clients and I had many clients who I knew very and I had many clients who I knew very and I had many clients who I knew very well who like, "Hey, let's go to Vegas well who like, "Hey, let's go to Vegas well who like, "Hey, let's go to Vegas together. Let's go to the Cancun together. Let's go to the Cancun together. Let's go to the Cancun together." Whatever. And I had I'd turn together." Whatever. And I had I'd turn together." Whatever. And I had I'd turn it down because I had too many it down because I had too many it down because I had too many experiences where I'd experiences where I'd experiences where I'd the line would get blurred and then the line would get blurred and then the line would get blurred and then either the client it felt weird asking either the client it felt weird asking either the client it felt weird asking them for money, if they started to them for money, if they started to them for money, if they started to become more flaky because we're buddies, become more flaky because we're buddies, become more flaky because we're buddies, uh or it was harder for me to influence uh or it was harder for me to influence uh or it was harder for me to influence them as their coach and trainer because them as their coach and trainer because them as their coach and trainer because they didn't view me so much as that and they didn't view me so much as that and they didn't view me so much as that and more as their friend. more as their friend. more as their friend. And I think that's an important one uh And I think that's an important one uh And I think that's an important one uh to talk about cuz it's so easy to kind to talk about cuz it's so easy to kind to talk about cuz it's so easy to kind of blur that line. So, of blur that line. So, of blur that line. So, two come to mind to me right away um two come to mind to me right away um two come to mind to me right away um related to mainly to financial. related to mainly to financial. related to mainly to financial. So, I I was faced with a a major ethical So, I I was faced with a a major ethical So, I I was faced with a a major ethical situation uh when I was scaling the boot situation uh when I was scaling the boot situation uh when I was scaling the boot camps. camps. camps. Um and and that weighed on me a lot Um and and that weighed on me a lot Um and and that weighed on me a lot because it was at a period of time when because it was at a period of time when because it was at a period of time when we were transitioning before Mind Pump. we were transitioning before Mind Pump. we were transitioning before Mind Pump. I was moving out of cannabis I was moving out of cannabis I was moving out of cannabis and so and so and so like coming from a time of making a lot like coming from a time of making a lot like coming from a time of making a lot of money and being very successful in of money and being very successful in of money and being very successful in the cannabis space, moving out of that the cannabis space, moving out of that the cannabis space, moving out of that before Mind Pump was the uh least amount before Mind Pump was the uh least amount before Mind Pump was the uh least amount of money I was probably making over the of money I was probably making over the of money I was probably making over the last almost you know 25 years of my last almost you know 25 years of my last almost you know 25 years of my life. life. life. And during that time I was scaling these And during that time I was scaling these And during that time I was scaling these boot camps and they were growing and boot camps and they were growing and boot camps and they were growing and doing well. doing well. doing well. And And And I was also and I tell the story about I was also and I tell the story about I was also and I tell the story about this is what made us all connect was I this is what made us all connect was I this is what made us all connect was I was aware of what would be best serving was aware of what would be best serving was aware of what would be best serving of those people. What they needed. of those people. What they needed. of those people. What they needed. >> So what they wanted versus what they >> So what they wanted versus what they >> So what they wanted versus what they needed. needed. needed. >> Yes. And I wrestled >> Yes. And I wrestled >> Yes. And I wrestled >> a very common one with the trainer. >> a very common one with the trainer. >> a very common one with the trainer. >> I wrestled with this because >> I wrestled with this because >> I wrestled with this because uh uh uh you know I and the lie I told myself was you know I and the lie I told myself was you know I and the lie I told myself was they love it. they love it. they love it. >> And they did love it. >> And they did love it. >> And they did love it. >> They love me. They love me and they >> They love me. They love me and they >> They love me. They love me and they high-fiving and this is what they wanted high-fiving and this is what they wanted high-fiving and this is what they wanted and they they I didn't have to close and they they I didn't have to close and they they I didn't have to close anyone. They were signing up every month anyone. They were signing up every month anyone. They were signing up every month and and and you know we built this great community you know we built this great community you know we built this great community and so I told myself all the other and so I told myself all the other and so I told myself all the other positive things that they got from it or positive things that they got from it or positive things that they got from it or whatever but deep down inside I knew I whatever but deep down inside I knew I whatever but deep down inside I knew I wasn't really physically helping them wasn't really physically helping them wasn't really physically helping them and most of them were you know these and most of them were you know these and most of them were you know these most of these clients were 40, 50, 60 most of these clients were 40, 50, 60 most of these clients were 40, 50, 60 years old and there was other things years old and there was other things years old and there was other things that they should be doing that they should be doing that they should be doing that I wasn't providing in a boot camp that I wasn't providing in a boot camp that I wasn't providing in a boot camp setting and I I wrestle and I and I setting and I I wrestle and I and I setting and I I wrestle and I and I needed the money. needed the money. needed the money. So I wrestled with that quite a bit. So I wrestled with that quite a bit. So I wrestled with that quite a bit. Ultimately I walked away from it. Ultimately I walked away from it. Ultimately I walked away from it. Ultimately I shut them down and I Ultimately I shut them down and I Ultimately I shut them down and I stopped doing them. I've told the story stopped doing them. I've told the story stopped doing them. I've told the story that that that the probably the guilt from that I the probably the guilt from that I the probably the guilt from that I continued to do that stuff for free continued to do that stuff for free continued to do that stuff for free for a mobility classes for a long time for a mobility classes for a long time for a mobility classes for a long time with those people. Um with those people. Um with those people. Um So that was the first one So that was the first one So that was the first one that comes to mind and then the other that comes to mind and then the other that comes to mind and then the other one was one was one was around similar time so probably why it around similar time so probably why it around similar time so probably why it was ethical and I struggled with it was was ethical and I struggled with it was was ethical and I struggled with it was cuz I knew I I needed I needed the the cuz I knew I I needed I needed the the cuz I knew I I needed I needed the the finances. finances. finances. Um but I knew [clears throat] what was Um but I knew [clears throat] what was Um but I knew [clears throat] what was right and what was wrong. Uh when I was right and what was wrong. Uh when I was right and what was wrong. Uh when I was in competing which was beginning of my in competing which was beginning of my in competing which was beginning of my pump my pump hadn't taken off yet. We're pump my pump hadn't taken off yet. We're pump my pump hadn't taken off yet. We're doing it but we're not paying ourselves doing it but we're not paying ourselves doing it but we're not paying ourselves yet. It's growing. There's a lot of yet. It's growing. There's a lot of yet. It's growing. There's a lot of positive inside, but I'm also still positive inside, but I'm also still positive inside, but I'm also still having to keep all my finances and having to keep all my finances and having to keep all my finances and everything going. everything going. everything going. Uh and I was competing. I got known Uh and I was competing. I got known Uh and I was competing. I got known really quick uh and a lot of people really quick uh and a lot of people really quick uh and a lot of people wanted me to coach them. And so I was I wanted me to coach them. And so I was I wanted me to coach them. And so I was I like wasn't even trying to build a like wasn't even trying to build a like wasn't even trying to build a coaching business and I was building a coaching business and I was building a coaching business and I was building a coaching business. And it was scaling coaching business. And it was scaling coaching business. And it was scaling pretty quick and I was doing well. pretty quick and I was doing well. pretty quick and I was doing well. And I was faced with a lot of um bikini And I was faced with a lot of um bikini And I was faced with a lot of um bikini competitors who wanted me to coach them. competitors who wanted me to coach them. competitors who wanted me to coach them. And when they would fill out the And when they would fill out the And when they would fill out the application, I'd have the the original application, I'd have the the original application, I'd have the the original Zoom call and talk to them and hear Zoom call and talk to them and hear Zoom call and talk to them and hear where they were at metabolically and where they were at metabolically and where they were at metabolically and stuff like that. Uh and they'd tell me I stuff like that. Uh and they'd tell me I stuff like that. Uh and they'd tell me I I hear I want you to coach me and I hear I want you to coach me and I hear I want you to coach me and there's this show there's this show there's this show and I would be like, yeah, no, I I I and I would be like, yeah, no, I I I and I would be like, yeah, no, I I I can't I can't do it. It's unhealthy It's can't I can't do it. It's unhealthy It's can't I can't do it. It's unhealthy It's unhealthy for you to do that. Um I would unhealthy for you to do that. Um I would unhealthy for you to do that. Um I would want to train you for 6 months to a year want to train you for 6 months to a year want to train you for 6 months to a year to build you up before we do that. And I to build you up before we do that. And I to build you up before we do that. And I I know I lost a good amount of business I know I lost a good amount of business I know I lost a good amount of business because I know a lot of those girls went because I know a lot of those girls went because I know a lot of those girls went off and I know who they hired. And they off and I know who they hired. And they off and I know who they hired. And they went and got somebody else took their went and got somebody else took their went and got somebody else took their money and said, "Sure, I'll throw you on money and said, "Sure, I'll throw you on money and said, "Sure, I'll throw you on an hour cardio every day and starve your an hour cardio every day and starve your an hour cardio every day and starve your body for the next, you know, 12 weeks to body for the next, you know, 12 weeks to body for the next, you know, 12 weeks to let you do the show." So, those two let you do the show." So, those two let you do the show." So, those two times uh yeah, I was faced with that and times uh yeah, I was faced with that and times uh yeah, I was faced with that and and probably why, cuz I don't I can't and probably why, cuz I don't I can't and probably why, cuz I don't I can't think of other ones that come to me, why think of other ones that come to me, why think of other ones that come to me, why it was challenging was cuz it was a it was challenging was cuz it was a it was challenging was cuz it was a period of time in my life when I could period of time in my life when I could period of time in my life when I could use Yeah, I could use the money, but I use Yeah, I could use the money, but I use Yeah, I could use the money, but I knew what was right and still walked knew what was right and still walked knew what was right and still walked away from it. away from it. away from it. >> Yeah, that's kind of I mean, it's >> Yeah, that's kind of I mean, it's >> Yeah, that's kind of I mean, it's similar to the only one I could kind of similar to the only one I could kind of similar to the only one I could kind of think of was like besides, you know, the think of was like besides, you know, the think of was like besides, you know, the stuff that's like they're trying to hang stuff that's like they're trying to hang stuff that's like they're trying to hang out too much and of course, you get out too much and of course, you get out too much and of course, you get really close with your clients, but um really close with your clients, but um really close with your clients, but um yeah, the we used to be next to the yeah, the we used to be next to the yeah, the we used to be next to the geriatric treatment kind of place where geriatric treatment kind of place where geriatric treatment kind of place where like doctors would prescribe uh this like doctors would prescribe uh this like doctors would prescribe uh this really, really low-calorie and then really, really low-calorie and then really, really low-calorie and then they'd give them shakes and kind of make they'd give them shakes and kind of make they'd give them shakes and kind of make up for that. Uh and I just I was so up for that. Uh and I just I was so up for that. Uh and I just I was so uncomfortable with uncomfortable with uncomfortable with with somebody would come in with that with somebody would come in with that with somebody would come in with that and then they wanted to be able to get and then they wanted to be able to get and then they wanted to be able to get the treatment so they had to lose like the treatment so they had to lose like the treatment so they had to lose like 20 lb or 50 lb or whatever it was like 20 lb or 50 lb or whatever it was like 20 lb or 50 lb or whatever it was like quickly. quickly. quickly. >> Or they or they had to gain it to >> Or they or they had to gain it to >> Or they or they had to gain it to qualify. qualify. qualify. >> Or they had to gain it. Yeah, so there >> Or they had to gain it. Yeah, so there >> Or they had to gain it. Yeah, so there was one or the other and like uh so I was one or the other and like uh so I was one or the other and like uh so I had both situations and like I just had both situations and like I just had both situations and like I just didn't I ethically I just was like I didn't I ethically I just was like I didn't I ethically I just was like I can't can't can't like they would want me to basically like they would want me to basically like they would want me to basically like, you know, have the most intense like, you know, have the most intense like, you know, have the most intense almost circuit training and then they almost circuit training and then they almost circuit training and then they they would like they hate that I was they would like they hate that I was they would like they hate that I was putting them through actual strength putting them through actual strength putting them through actual strength training and like really trying to build training and like really trying to build training and like really trying to build them up and like, you know, I was I was them up and like, you know, I was I was them up and like, you know, I was I was definitely challenging them with their definitely challenging them with their definitely challenging them with their with their nutrition and uh so it was with their nutrition and uh so it was with their nutrition and uh so it was one of those things I actually let a one of those things I actually let a one of those things I actually let a couple of those couple of those couple of those clients leave and I just I I couldn't do clients leave and I just I I couldn't do clients leave and I just I I couldn't do it cuz I just was like this is just not it cuz I just was like this is just not it cuz I just was like this is just not like you're going to have to find like you're going to have to find like you're going to have to find somebody else to do this is not good for somebody else to do this is not good for somebody else to do this is not good for you like I actually had one lady you like I actually had one lady you like I actually had one lady actually pass out and I was like and I actually pass out and I was like and I actually pass out and I was like and I asked her like how many like how much asked her like how many like how much asked her like how many like how much are you eating and like we went into it are you eating and like we went into it are you eating and like we went into it and it just all these red flags kind of and it just all these red flags kind of and it just all these red flags kind of went off for me and I was like I'm done. went off for me and I was like I'm done. went off for me and I was like I'm done. >> You just reminded me of a specific one I >> You just reminded me of a specific one I >> You just reminded me of a specific one I had. I trained a young lady for the Miss had. I trained a young lady for the Miss had. I trained a young lady for the Miss San Jose pageant. San Jose pageant. San Jose pageant. And I trained her because uh she was And I trained her because uh she was And I trained her because uh she was dating someone close to me. I won't say dating someone close to me. I won't say dating someone close to me. I won't say who it was but someone I knew. So So who it was but someone I knew. So So who it was but someone I knew. So So they're like, "Hey, you you you know, they're like, "Hey, you you you know, they're like, "Hey, you you you know, train her?" And I was sure. train her?" And I was sure. train her?" And I was sure. So I trained her and she won. So she So I trained her and she won. So she So I trained her and she won. So she gets first place. Next thing you know, gets first place. Next thing you know, gets first place. Next thing you know, everybody's like, "How did you look so everybody's like, "How did you look so everybody's like, "How did you look so good?" All these other moms coming to good?" All these other moms coming to good?" All these other moms coming to me. So I got Yeah, so I had all these me. So I got Yeah, so I had all these me. So I got Yeah, so I had all these inquiries from um inquiries from um inquiries from um these pageant competitors and their moms these pageant competitors and their moms these pageant competitors and their moms >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> who wanted me train uh their daughters >> who wanted me train uh their daughters >> who wanted me train uh their daughters and uh it did not feel right at all. I and uh it did not feel right at all. I and uh it did not feel right at all. I mean I I've told this story before but I mean I I've told this story before but I mean I I've told this story before but I remember I was at that Miss San Jose and remember I was at that Miss San Jose and remember I was at that Miss San Jose and had all these people coming up to me had all these people coming up to me had all these people coming up to me like, "Oh, you I I want to talk to you like, "Oh, you I I want to talk to you like, "Oh, you I I want to talk to you afterwards and she looks so good. Let me afterwards and she looks so good. Let me afterwards and she looks so good. Let me see what's going on." see what's going on." see what's going on." And um I had this one mom come up to me And um I had this one mom come up to me And um I had this one mom come up to me with her daughter who was probably with her daughter who was probably with her daughter who was probably 15 and she's like, "Hey, I'm interested 15 and she's like, "Hey, I'm interested 15 and she's like, "Hey, I'm interested in in in you training my daughter and in in in you training my daughter and in in in you training my daughter and this and that and getting her ready." this and that and getting her ready." this and that and getting her ready." And she goes, "But can you please And she goes, "But can you please And she goes, "But can you please explain to her how eating too many explain to her how eating too many explain to her how eating too many apples can also make you fat?" apples can also make you fat?" apples can also make you fat?" And And this is a 15-year-old girl, and And And this is a 15-year-old girl, and And And this is a 15-year-old girl, and the mom is saying that. And I'm I looked the mom is saying that. And I'm I looked the mom is saying that. And I'm I looked at her and I looked at her daughter. I at her and I looked at her daughter. I at her and I looked at her daughter. I said, "That's not what's going to make said, "That's not what's going to make said, "That's not what's going to make you fat." And she's like, "What But it's you fat." And she's like, "What But it's you fat." And she's like, "What But it's calories, right? Isn't it excess calories, right? Isn't it excess calories, right? Isn't it excess calories?" I said, calories?" I said, calories?" I said, "Yeah, that's the wrong information." "Yeah, that's the wrong information." "Yeah, that's the wrong information." And I was like, right then and there I'm And I was like, right then and there I'm And I was like, right then and there I'm like, I'm not training any of these kids like, I'm not training any of these kids like, I'm not training any of these kids and any of these because this is going and any of these because this is going and any of these because this is going to be All I'm going to do is get into to be All I'm going to do is get into to be All I'm going to do is get into battles with the parents, and I'm only battles with the parents, and I'm only battles with the parents, and I'm only going to encourage these girls to not be going to encourage these girls to not be going to encourage these girls to not be in pageants. in pageants. in pageants. >> That whole space was just was just like >> That whole space was just was just like >> That whole space was just was just like >> We all worked at that Santa Teresa gym, >> We all worked at that Santa Teresa gym, >> We all worked at that Santa Teresa gym, and Justin's talking about the clinic and Justin's talking about the clinic and Justin's talking about the clinic across the street across the street across the street >> Yeah, I saw that, too. >> Yeah, I saw that, too. >> Yeah, I saw that, too. >> And so, I actually had clients that >> And so, I actually had clients that >> And so, I actually had clients that because they can get insurance to cover because they can get insurance to cover because they can get insurance to cover that. They have to be a certain that. They have to be a certain that. They have to be a certain overweight overweight overweight >> obese enough to get >> obese enough to get >> obese enough to get >> They would want to hire me >> They would want to hire me >> They would want to hire me >> weight. >> weight. >> weight. >> to gain weight. >> to gain weight. >> to gain weight. >> so they'd eat like crazy. >> so they'd eat like crazy. >> so they'd eat like crazy. >> And so, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I can't >> And so, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I can't >> And so, yeah. Yeah, I was like, I can't do that. do that. do that. >> too. Yeah. >> too. Yeah. >> too. Yeah. >> Like you She's They would come to me and >> Like you She's They would come to me and >> Like you She's They would come to me and be like, I need to get put on like 25 be like, I need to get put on like 25 be like, I need to get put on like 25 lbs of body fat in order to qualify for lbs of body fat in order to qualify for lbs of body fat in order to qualify for the insurance to pay for this surgery. the insurance to pay for this surgery. the insurance to pay for this surgery. And I already didn't was not a fan of And I already didn't was not a fan of And I already didn't was not a fan of that surgery anyways. Now, if it's a that surgery anyways. Now, if it's a that surgery anyways. Now, if it's a life or death situation for somebody, life or death situation for somebody, life or death situation for somebody, understandable. Like if this person's understandable. Like if this person's understandable. Like if this person's 400 lbs doing the gastric, like it is 400 lbs doing the gastric, like it is 400 lbs doing the gastric, like it is what it is to save a life. But I think I what it is to save a life. But I think I what it is to save a life. But I think I I totally was against that as a a method I totally was against that as a a method I totally was against that as a a method of losing weight um and of losing weight um and of losing weight um and >> turning down money. They're like willing >> turning down money. They're like willing >> turning down money. They're like willing to pay you. to pay you. to pay you. >> Yeah, I know I did the same thing. >> Yeah, I know I did the same thing. >> Yeah, I know I did the same thing. >> Yeah, crazy. All right, I know you liked >> Yeah, crazy. All right, I know you liked >> Yeah, crazy. All right, I know you liked that episode. If you did, check this one that episode. If you did, check this one that episode. If you did, check this one out. Walking, it's one of the best out. Walking, it's one of the best out. Walking, it's one of the best things you can do for your health, bar things you can do for your health, bar things you can do for your health, bar none, but there's a better way to none, but there's a better way to none, but there's a better way to approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but approach it. Yes, you can just walk, but if you follow the right protocol, it's if you follow the right protocol, it's if you follow the right protocol, it's far more effective. far more effective. far more effective. Let's talk about walking. Let's talk about walking. Let's talk about walking. >> I can't wait to hear a walking protocol. >> I can't wait to hear a walking protocol. >> I can't wait to hear a walking protocol. >> Well, there is Well, there is a >> Well, there is Well, there is a >> Well, there is Well, there is a protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the protocol. So, and I'll start with the first thing, right? Cuz first thing, right? Cuz first thing, right? Cuz just first off, uh let me start with just first off, uh let me start with just first off, uh let me start with this. One of the reasons why walking um this. One of the reasons why walking um this. One of the reasons why walking um is such a great form of just activity is such a great form of just activity is such a great form of just activity is because it's low risk of injury. Now, is because it's low risk of injury. Now, is because it's low risk of injury. Now, some