How to Catch Fire for Fitness! (Fall in Love With it and You’ll Always Do it.) | Mind Pump 2794

The real secret to fitness isn't willpower or discipline—it's falling in love with it. Those who maintain lifelong fitness habits don't focus on how they look; they focus on how fitness enhances everything else they love: relationships, mental clarity, energy, productivity, and purpose. The body cha
February 14, 2026 1h 56m
Summary published by 1% Better, updated April 6, 2026.
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Key Takeaway

Episode Overview

This episode explores how to build a sustainable, lifelong relationship with fitness by shifting focus from physical appearance to the comprehensive benefits that enhance all other aspects of life. The hosts discuss how the fitness industry oversells aesthetic results while underselling the transformative effects on mental health, relationships, productivity, and overall quality of life. They emphasize that loving fitness is a choice and skill that anyone can develop by connecting exercise to the things they already value.
Main Insights

Love is a Choice, Not a Feeling

Falling in love with fitness mirrors falling in love with a person—it's not a sudden overwhelming feeling but a deliberate choice and ongoing action. If you wait to 'feel like' working out, you may never develop a lasting relationship with fitness. The key is to start taking action and choosing to build that relationship intentionally.
Focus Determines What You Notice

Psychological research shows we only notice what we focus on (illustrated by the 'invisible gorilla' study). If you only focus on how you look when exercising, you'll miss all the other profound benefits happening—better sleep, mental clarity, improved relationships, increased energy. This narrow focus prevents developing a complete relationship with fitness.
The Aesthetic Paradox

The fitness industry has oversold appearance as the primary benefit, when it's actually just a side effect. Data shows that going from a '6 to a 9' in physical attractiveness barely changes happiness levels. Those who sustain fitness for 40-50 years cite reasons like mental clarity, purpose, energy, and community—never just how they look.
Fitness Enhances What You Already Love

The most effective way to fall in love with fitness is connecting it to things you already value—spending time with kids, traveling, hobbies, work performance. A healthier, stronger version of you enjoys all these activities exponentially more. Good coaches help clients make these connections rather than selling body transformation.
The Relationship Evolves Over Time

Like a 50-year marriage, your relationship with fitness develops and changes based on life circumstances. During stressful periods, workouts become therapeutic; during other times, they're about performance. This flexibility and evolution is what makes the relationship sustainable, not rigid adherence to a specific routine or goal.
Notable Quotes

"If you fall in love with it, you never stop doing it. Duh. But it's a hard thing to do."

Sal Di Stefano
"Have you guys ever met somebody that genuinely loves fitness who doesn't do it?"

Sal Di Stefano
"Love is a choice it's action and so can can if you are waiting to fall in love with fitness um because you don't right now and you don't choose uh to love it then you may never find it and you'll never happen for you and so it takes action"

Adam Schafer
"All those things that you just love, do you really love those things? Guess what? I can enhance all of them."

Adam Schafer
"We only notice what we focus on. This this is a psychological fact that's been tested many times."

Sal Di Stefano
"If you're working out and you're the main reason, the thing that you want, the thing that you're focusing on is how I look, all you're going to notice is that you're going to miss all this other wonderful things that are happening."

Sal Di Stefano
"If you focus on all those other things, the side effect that will occur guaranteed is the physical visual changes. You will get leaner, you will build muscle, you will look more attractive."

Sal Di Stefano
Action Items

Suggested exercises inspired by the conversation.
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Identify What You Already Love
Make a list of 3-5 things you genuinely love in life (family time, travel, hobbies, work). Then consciously connect how being healthier, stronger, and more energetic would enhance each of these. Use this connection as your primary motivation for fitness rather than appearance.
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Notice the Non-Visual Benefits
After each workout, write down one non-appearance benefit you experienced (better mood, mental clarity, more energy, better sleep, sense of accomplishment). Train yourself to focus on and value these effects as much or more than physical changes.
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Give Yourself Permission to Modify
When you don't feel like working out, give yourself permission to do just one thing—one exercise, one set, a short walk. This flexibility prevents the all-or-nothing mentality that leads to quitting and helps you maintain consistency through life's ups and downs.
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Reframe Your Fitness 'Why'
Write down your current reason for exercising. If it's primarily aesthetic, rewrite it to focus on how fitness serves the other parts of your life you value. Keep this new 'why' visible and review it before workouts.
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All All right, we're going to talk about the right, we're going to talk about the right, we're going to talk about the real secret to fitness. Here's the real real secret to fitness. Here's the real real secret to fitness. Here's the real secret. If you fall in love with it, you secret. If you fall in love with it, you secret. If you fall in love with it, you never stop doing it. Duh. But it's a never stop doing it. Duh. But it's a never stop doing it. Duh. But it's a hard thing to do. We're going to talk hard thing to do. We're going to talk hard thing to do. We're going to talk about that. How can you fall in love about that. How can you fall in love about that. How can you fall in love with fitness? How can you catch fire for with fitness? How can you catch fire for with fitness? How can you catch fire for fitness so it becomes your thing? Then fitness so it becomes your thing? Then fitness so it becomes your thing? Then you never have to worry about stopping you never have to worry about stopping you never have to worry about stopping because you love it. Let's get into it. because you love it. Let's get into it. because you love it. Let's get into it. &gt;&gt; That's the secret. &gt;&gt; That's the secret. &gt;&gt; That's the secret. &gt;&gt; Yes, it is. &gt;&gt; Yes, it is. &gt;&gt; Yes, it is. &gt;&gt; Love it. Listen, have you guys ever met &gt;&gt; Love it. Listen, have you guys ever met &gt;&gt; Love it. Listen, have you guys ever met ever met somebody that genuinely loves ever met somebody that genuinely loves ever met somebody that genuinely loves fitness who doesn't do it? fitness who doesn't do it? fitness who doesn't do it? &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; That's it right there. &gt;&gt; That's it right there. &gt;&gt; That's it right there. &gt;&gt; What do you think? &gt;&gt; What do you think? &gt;&gt; What do you think? &gt;&gt; Do you think that um &gt;&gt; Do you think that um &gt;&gt; Do you think that um &gt;&gt; the people that do fall in love with it &gt;&gt; the people that do fall in love with it &gt;&gt; the people that do fall in love with it were like kind of like meant to fall in were like kind of like meant to fall in were like kind of like meant to fall in love with it or do you think that love with it or do you think that love with it or do you think that anybody can learn to fall in love with anybody can learn to fall in love with anybody can learn to fall in love with it? it? it? &gt;&gt; Such a great question. Such a great &gt;&gt; Such a great question. Such a great &gt;&gt; Such a great question. Such a great question. If I didn't train people for question. If I didn't train people for question. If I didn't train people for 20 years, I would have maybe thought it 20 years, I would have maybe thought it 20 years, I would have maybe thought it was the first one. But I trained enough was the first one. But I trained enough was the first one. But I trained enough people over 20 years and it took me the people over 20 years and it took me the people over 20 years and it took me the last of the back half of that because last of the back half of that because last of the back half of that because the first the first half of that I the first the first half of that I the first the first half of that I wasn't good at this. But the back half wasn't good at this. But the back half wasn't good at this. But the back half of this of of my career, the last 10 of this of of my career, the last 10 of this of of my career, the last 10 years, uh this started to become uh the years, uh this started to become uh the years, uh this started to become uh the focus. This is where I placed my energy. focus. This is where I placed my energy. focus. This is where I placed my energy. Um, and uh, it became a success story Um, and uh, it became a success story Um, and uh, it became a success story and a good p a large percentage of my and a good p a large percentage of my and a good p a large percentage of my clients, the majority of them in the clients, the majority of them in the clients, the majority of them in the back half, I got them here. Now, they back half, I got them here. Now, they back half, I got them here. Now, they didn't become fitness fanatics. There's didn't become fitness fanatics. There's didn't become fitness fanatics. There's a difference. A fitness fanatic is a difference. A fitness fanatic is a difference. A fitness fanatic is actually somebody who struggles with actually somebody who struggles with actually somebody who struggles with working out too much. working out too much. working out too much. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Who struggles with it becoming too high &gt;&gt; Who struggles with it becoming too high &gt;&gt; Who struggles with it becoming too high of a priority. And these people tend to of a priority. And these people tend to of a priority. And these people tend to work in fitness. Um, I'm when I talk work in fitness. Um, I'm when I talk work in fitness. Um, I'm when I talk about fall in love with fitness, it's about fall in love with fitness, it's about fall in love with fitness, it's like, you know, I had a good and I know like, you know, I had a good and I know like, you know, I had a good and I know you guys did too. We talked about this you guys did too. We talked about this you guys did too. We talked about this uh where I got pretty good at getting uh where I got pretty good at getting uh where I got pretty good at getting people who struggled with being people who struggled with being people who struggled with being consistent through training and coaching consistent through training and coaching consistent through training and coaching and working with me over the years to and working with me over the years to and working with me over the years to where they loved it. It was a part of where they loved it. It was a part of where they loved it. It was a part of their life and they never stopped. To their life and they never stopped. To their life and they never stopped. To this day, um there's many of these this day, um there's many of these this day, um there's many of these people that I'll see or talk to who people that I'll see or talk to who people that I'll see or talk to who still work out who I remember when they still work out who I remember when they still work out who I remember when they hired me. Uh it was an on offagain hired me. Uh it was an on offagain hired me. Uh it was an on offagain struggle. So, you can do it. You struggle. So, you can do it. You struggle. So, you can do it. You definitely can do it. definitely can do it. definitely can do it. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I think the general public I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I think the general public I'm &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I think the general public I'm sure there's that sense like when you sure there's that sense like when you sure there's that sense like when you kind of propose that question where kind of propose that question where kind of propose that question where their perception of the gym is like well their perception of the gym is like well their perception of the gym is like well they love it already and these people they love it already and these people they love it already and these people are already gravitating towards it. I are already gravitating towards it. I are already gravitating towards it. I just I'm just not that kind of person just I'm just not that kind of person just I'm just not that kind of person &gt;&gt; and it's it's like this self-fulfilling &gt;&gt; and it's it's like this self-fulfilling &gt;&gt; and it's it's like this self-fulfilling kind of justification. kind of justification. kind of justification. um when in fact yes it there's and I um when in fact yes it there's and I um when in fact yes it there's and I think that's that's always been sort of think that's that's always been sort of think that's that's always been sort of something I've wanted to address is like something I've wanted to address is like something I've wanted to address is like what are the different ways we can what are the different ways we can what are the different ways we can present it how how many different angles present it how how many different angles present it how how many different angles can we find to you know for that one can we find to you know for that one can we find to you know for that one thing to really resonate to that person thing to really resonate to that person thing to really resonate to that person that yes it is for you it's literally that yes it is for you it's literally that yes it is for you it's literally for everybody but we have to find that for everybody but we have to find that for everybody but we have to find that pathway for you that it makes sense for pathway for you that it makes sense for pathway for you that it makes sense for you to get in and enjoy it you to get in and enjoy it you to get in and enjoy it &gt;&gt; totally 100% everybody can fall in love &gt;&gt; totally 100% everybody can fall in love &gt;&gt; totally 100% everybody can fall in love with it And I think of a lot of it like with it And I think of a lot of it like with it And I think of a lot of it like uh the same misunderstanding uh the same misunderstanding uh the same misunderstanding that I had around falling in love with a that I had around falling in love with a that I had around falling in love with a person. There was a misunderstanding person. There was a misunderstanding person. There was a misunderstanding around that too. I think uh a lot of around that too. I think uh a lot of around that too. I think uh a lot of times people walk around and they think times people walk around and they think times people walk around and they think they're just going to meet Mr. or Mrs. they're just going to meet Mr. or Mrs. they're just going to meet Mr. or Mrs. Wright and this overwhelming feeling Wright and this overwhelming feeling Wright and this overwhelming feeling you'll just know you'll know will you'll just know you'll know will you'll just know you'll know will happen. But happen. But happen. But &gt;&gt; the feeling is always going to be there. &gt;&gt; the feeling is always going to be there. &gt;&gt; the feeling is always going to be there. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. it it and I remember later &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. it it and I remember later &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. it it and I remember later in my adult life learning that love is a in my adult life learning that love is a in my adult life learning that love is a choice it's action and so can can if you choice it's action and so can can if you choice it's action and so can can if you are waiting to fall in love with fitness are waiting to fall in love with fitness are waiting to fall in love with fitness um because you don't right now and you um because you don't right now and you um because you don't right now and you don't choose uh to love it then you may don't choose uh to love it then you may don't choose uh to love it then you may never find it and you'll never happen never find it and you'll never happen never find it and you'll never happen for you and so it takes action you have for you and so it takes action you have for you and so it takes action you have to start to take action and what to to start to take action and what to to start to take action and what to Justin's point Justin's point Justin's point maybe the the the way uh that you tried maybe the the the way uh that you tried maybe the the the way uh that you tried to fall in love with it. Uh the to fall in love with it. Uh the to fall in love with it. Uh the modality, the extreme dieting, uh the modality, the extreme dieting, uh the modality, the extreme dieting, uh the the trainer or person who sent you in the trainer or person who sent you in the trainer or person who sent you in the wrong direction or who didn't meet the wrong direction or who didn't meet the wrong direction or who didn't meet you where you were at convinced you that you where you were at convinced you that you where you were at convinced you that loving fitness wasn't for you. loving fitness wasn't for you. loving fitness wasn't for you. &gt;&gt; Uh no, that's not true at all. We just &gt;&gt; Uh no, that's not true at all. We just &gt;&gt; Uh no, that's not true at all. We just need to figure out where you're at, meet need to figure out where you're at, meet need to figure out where you're at, meet you where you're at. um connect the dots you where you're at. um connect the dots you where you're at. um connect the dots to the other parts of your life than to the other parts of your life than to the other parts of your life than maybe the the ones that you don't care maybe the the ones that you don't care maybe the the ones that you don't care about or the ones that you've been about or the ones that you've been about or the ones that you've been misled about. Um there's so many other misled about. Um there's so many other misled about. Um there's so many other things that I mean every other aspect of things that I mean every other aspect of things that I mean every other aspect of your life. The healthier version of you your life. The healthier version of you your life. The healthier version of you enjoys and and that thing more. So let's enjoys and and that thing more. So let's enjoys and and that thing more. So let's take take take &gt;&gt; the exercise nutrition part out of it. &gt;&gt; the exercise nutrition part out of it. &gt;&gt; the exercise nutrition part out of it. And so if I have a client in front of me And so if I have a client in front of me And so if I have a client in front of me says I hate to work out. I hate I hate says I hate to work out. I hate I hate says I hate to work out. I hate I hate exercise. I hate fitness. Okay. Tell me exercise. I hate fitness. Okay. Tell me exercise. I hate fitness. Okay. Tell me what you love. Yeah. what you love. Yeah. what you love. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, I love spending time with my kids. I &gt;&gt; Oh, I love spending time with my kids. I &gt;&gt; Oh, I love spending time with my kids. I love to travel. I love to play love to travel. I love to play love to travel. I love to play basketball. I love to like you love all basketball. I love to like you love all basketball. I love to like you love all these other these other these other &gt;&gt; nature, whatever it is. &gt;&gt; nature, whatever it is. &gt;&gt; nature, whatever it is. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, my defense to health and &gt;&gt; Okay. So, my defense to health and &gt;&gt; Okay. So, my defense to health and fitness is that all those things that fitness is that all those things that fitness is that all those things that you just love, do you really love those you just love, do you really love those you just love, do you really love those things? Guess what? I can enhance all of things? Guess what? I can enhance all of things? Guess what? I can enhance all of them. them. them. &gt;&gt; That's right. your relationship with &gt;&gt; That's right. your relationship with &gt;&gt; That's right. your relationship with your kids, your relationship with your your kids, your relationship with your your kids, your relationship with your spouse when you travel and go places, spouse when you travel and go places, spouse when you travel and go places, all these other things that you've all these other things that you've all these other things that you've already agreed or decided that you love, already agreed or decided that you love, already agreed or decided that you love, the healthier, stronger, fitter version the healthier, stronger, fitter version the healthier, stronger, fitter version of you enjoys all those things of you enjoys all those things of you enjoys all those things exponentially, exponentially, exponentially, &gt;&gt; magnified it. So, if you can learn to &gt;&gt; magnified it. So, if you can learn to &gt;&gt; magnified it. So, if you can learn to find a way to live a healthier, fitter, find a way to live a healthier, fitter, find a way to live a healthier, fitter, stronger life, stronger life, stronger life, even though maybe you don't enjoy going even though maybe you don't enjoy going even though maybe you don't enjoy going to the gym and you don't enjoy to the gym and you don't enjoy to the gym and you don't enjoy sacrificing the wine every night or sacrificing the wine every night or sacrificing the wine every night or exercise, what you will enjoy or the exercise, what you will enjoy or the exercise, what you will enjoy or the results from that and how it impacts the results from that and how it impacts the results from that and how it impacts the other things in your life, which then other things in your life, which then other things in your life, which then tends to result in maybe I do like this tends to result in maybe I do like this tends to result in maybe I do like this thing a little bit more. So, I thing a little bit more. So, I thing a little bit more. So, I absolutely believe that everybody, even absolutely believe that everybody, even absolutely believe that everybody, even somebody listening who thinks they hate somebody listening who thinks they hate somebody listening who thinks they hate exercise or hates working out and exercise or hates working out and exercise or hates working out and nutrition or making food healthy food nutrition or making food healthy food nutrition or making food healthy food choices, you absolutely can learn to choices, you absolutely can learn to choices, you absolutely can learn to love it. The key and what good coaches love it. The key and what good coaches love it. The key and what good coaches do is they help those people connect the do is they help those people connect the do is they help those people connect the dots to the things that those people dots to the things that those people dots to the things that those people have already agreed they love have already agreed they love have already agreed they love &gt;&gt; and how pursuing a healthier version of &gt;&gt; and how pursuing a healthier version of &gt;&gt; and how pursuing a healthier version of themselves makes all those things so themselves makes all those things so themselves makes all those things so much better. Yeah, I like what you said much better. Yeah, I like what you said much better. Yeah, I like what you said about uh like uh you know loving an about uh like uh you know loving an about uh like uh you know loving an individual because that's what you're individual because that's what you're individual because that's what you're talking about as a relationship and what talking about as a relationship and what talking about as a relationship and what do we refer to do we refer to do we refer to &gt;&gt; uh when we talk about fitness. It's a &gt;&gt; uh when we talk about fitness. It's a &gt;&gt; uh when we talk about fitness. It's a relationship. relationship. relationship. &gt;&gt; It is a relationship that you build with &gt;&gt; It is a relationship that you build with &gt;&gt; It is a relationship that you build with it. Um and if you do it the right way, it. Um and if you do it the right way, it. Um and if you do it the right way, &gt;&gt; you the relationship develops into one &gt;&gt; you the relationship develops into one &gt;&gt; you the relationship develops into one that um enhances what perfectly said, that um enhances what perfectly said, that um enhances what perfectly said, Adam, enhances the rest of your life. Um Adam, enhances the rest of your life. Um Adam, enhances the rest of your life. Um so I I love that example. I think that's so I I love that example. I think that's so I I love that example. I think that's a very accurate example. Um, I think one a very accurate example. Um, I think one a very accurate example. Um, I think one of the challenges with this is that the of the challenges with this is that the of the challenges with this is that the the media and industry part of fitness the media and industry part of fitness the media and industry part of fitness oversells by far oversells one of the oversells by far oversells one of the oversells by far oversells one of the effects of being fit and healthy, which effects of being fit and healthy, which effects of being fit and healthy, which is how you look. is how you look. is how you look. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Now, that's a real effect. Okay. It's &gt;&gt; Now, that's a real effect. Okay. It's &gt;&gt; Now, that's a real effect. Okay. It's it's a visible effect. It is a real it's a visible effect. It is a real it's a visible effect. It is a real effect. If you're fit and the fit and effect. If you're fit and the fit and effect. If you're fit and the fit and healthy version of you looks different healthy version of you looks different healthy version of you looks different than the less fit, less healthy version than the less fit, less healthy version than the less fit, less healthy version of you and you tend to be leaner, you've of you and you tend to be leaner, you've of you and you tend to be leaner, you've got better muscle, uh maybe you look got better muscle, uh maybe you look got better muscle, uh maybe you look more attractive, you know, you look more more attractive, you know, you look more more attractive, you know, you look more vibrant, maybe you look more youthful. vibrant, maybe you look more youthful. vibrant, maybe you look more youthful. That's true. But what what we've done is That's true. But what what we've done is That's true. But what what we've done is we've sold that so heavily that that we've sold that so heavily that that we've sold that so heavily that that becomes not just one of the many values becomes not just one of the many values becomes not just one of the many values but it becomes but it becomes but it becomes &gt;&gt; northar &gt;&gt; northar &gt;&gt; northar &gt;&gt; the best value or worse the only value. &gt;&gt; the best value or worse the only value. &gt;&gt; the best value or worse the only value. The only reason why I work out The only reason why I work out The only reason why I work out &gt;&gt; is because I want to look this way. The &gt;&gt; is because I want to look this way. The &gt;&gt; is because I want to look this way. The only reason I work out is because I want only reason I work out is because I want only reason I work out is because I want to look more attractive because I want to look more attractive because I want to look more attractive because I want to lose body fat to look uh a particular to lose body fat to look uh a particular to lose body fat to look uh a particular way because I want to look younger. And way because I want to look younger. And way because I want to look younger. And when you do that, um, this relationship when you do that, um, this relationship when you do that, um, this relationship you build with fitness will become a you build with fitness will become a you build with fitness will become a toxic one. toxic one. toxic one. &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's exactly parallel to a &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's exactly parallel to a &gt;&gt; Yeah. It's exactly parallel to a relationship with another person. The relationship with another person. The relationship with another person. The most shallow version of that most shallow version of that most shallow version of that relationship is just to focus on their relationship is just to focus on their relationship is just to focus on their looks and and that feeling you get by looks and and that feeling you get by looks and and that feeling you get by being attracted to them. How long does being attracted to them. How long does being attracted to them. How long does that last? And and how, you know, what that last? And and how, you know, what that last? And and how, you know, what can you build uh off of that? It's it's can you build uh off of that? It's it's can you build uh off of that? It's it's it's a very narrow scope. it's a very narrow scope. it's a very narrow scope. &gt;&gt; We also have a sale. We have a new &gt;&gt; We also have a sale. We have a new &gt;&gt; We also have a sale. We have a new program bundle. It's called the couples program bundle. It's called the couples program bundle. 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What what they're really right? What what they're really referring to is attractiveness, referring to is attractiveness, referring to is attractiveness, um beauty, or what we would consider to um beauty, or what we would consider to um beauty, or what we would consider to be youthful beauty. In fact, that's all be youthful beauty. In fact, that's all be youthful beauty. In fact, that's all we think of as now is beauty, is this we think of as now is beauty, is this we think of as now is beauty, is this youthful beauty. Um, and all industries youthful beauty. Um, and all industries youthful beauty. Um, and all industries sell that so much that the idea is if I sell that so much that the idea is if I sell that so much that the idea is if I look a particular way, I'll have this look a particular way, I'll have this look a particular way, I'll have this dramatic improvement in my life. By the dramatic improvement in my life. By the dramatic improvement in my life. By the way, the data doesn't support this at way, the data doesn't support this at way, the data doesn't support this at all at all. I remember Arthur Brooks, all at all. I remember Arthur Brooks, all at all. I remember Arthur Brooks, uh, who's a Harvard professor, expert on uh, who's a Harvard professor, expert on uh, who's a Harvard professor, expert on happiness, wonderful man, but he's an happiness, wonderful man, but he's an happiness, wonderful man, but he's an expert on this. And he said, "If you expert on this. And he said, "If you expert on this. And he said, "If you were a on a scale of 1 to 10 of beauty, were a on a scale of 1 to 10 of beauty, were a on a scale of 1 to 10 of beauty, like physical beauty, if you were a six like physical beauty, if you were a six like physical beauty, if you were a six and you spent all your time, money, and and you spent all your time, money, and and you spent all your time, money, and energy going from a six to a nine, your energy going from a six to a nine, your energy going from a six to a nine, your happiness level would barely change, if happiness level would barely change, if happiness level would barely change, if at all." So, it's actually they oversold at all." So, it's actually they oversold at all." So, it's actually they oversold it uh to us, everybody. it uh to us, everybody. it uh to us, everybody. &gt;&gt; Not only did they oversell it to us, &gt;&gt; Not only did they oversell it to us, &gt;&gt; Not only did they oversell it to us, &gt;&gt; but it's actually the side effect. It's &gt;&gt; but it's actually the side effect. It's &gt;&gt; but it's actually the side effect. It's it's not the main effect. The main it's not the main effect. The main it's not the main effect. The main effect of fitness is not the way you effect of fitness is not the way you effect of fitness is not the way you look. the way you look is actually a look. the way you look is actually a look. the way you look is actually a side effect. And so what we've done is side effect. And so what we've done is side effect. And so what we've done is we've taken the side effect, put it way we've taken the side effect, put it way we've taken the side effect, put it way up here, and said, "This is why I'm up here, and said, "This is why I'm up here, and said, "This is why I'm working out, and this is why I'm eating working out, and this is why I'm eating working out, and this is why I'm eating healthy." And it's going to let you healthy." And it's going to let you healthy." And it's going to let you down. down. down. &gt;&gt; It's going to let you down. And and and &gt;&gt; It's going to let you down. And and and &gt;&gt; It's going to let you down. And and and hey, by the way, God forbid you actually hey, by the way, God forbid you actually hey, by the way, God forbid you actually achieve what you think uh that ideal is, achieve what you think uh that ideal is, achieve what you think uh that ideal is, you're going to really find out it you're going to really find out it you're going to really find out it sucks. uh and you may actually become sucks. uh and you may actually become sucks. uh and you may actually become addicted in a way that's very unhealthy addicted in a way that's very unhealthy addicted in a way that's very unhealthy which we see uh in the fitness industry which we see uh in the fitness industry which we see uh in the fitness industry uh represented by many fitness uh represented by many fitness uh represented by many fitness influencers who are communicating this influencers who are communicating this influencers who are communicating this uh terrible message. So the key to to uh terrible message. So the key to to uh terrible message. So the key to to how to catch fire for fitness starts how to catch fire for fitness starts how to catch fire for fitness starts with this. It starts with realizing all with this. It starts with realizing all with this. It starts with realizing all of the non uh visual nonesthetic non of the non uh visual nonesthetic non of the non uh visual nonesthetic non beautybased benefits of fitness. Now, beautybased benefits of fitness. Now, beautybased benefits of fitness. Now, you might think to yourself when I'm you might think to yourself when I'm you might think to yourself when I'm saying that like, well, yeah, duh. Like, saying that like, well, yeah, duh. Like, saying that like, well, yeah, duh. Like, okay, of course, there's lots of other okay, of course, there's lots of other okay, of course, there's lots of other B. No, no, no. We only notice what we B. No, no, no. We only notice what we B. No, no, no. We only notice what we focus on. This this is a this is a focus on. This this is a this is a focus on. This this is a this is a psychological fact that's been tested psychological fact that's been tested psychological fact that's been tested many times. There's this famous study many times. There's this famous study many times. There's this famous study that I've shared many times on the show. that I've shared many times on the show. that I've shared many times on the show. You can watch it on YouTube. I'm going You can watch it on YouTube. I'm going You can watch it on YouTube. I'm going to give it away now, so it's not going to give it away now, so it's not going to give it away now, so it's not going to work on you because I'm going to give to work on you because I'm going to give to work on you because I'm going to give you the the the the secret to it. But, you the the the the secret to it. But, you the the the the secret to it. But, there's this famous video where you've there's this famous video where you've there's this famous video where you've got 10 people passing a basketball got 10 people passing a basketball got 10 people passing a basketball &gt;&gt; to each other back and forth. And as you &gt;&gt; to each other back and forth. And as you &gt;&gt; to each other back and forth. And as you watch the video, uh, there's a professor watch the video, uh, there's a professor watch the video, uh, there's a professor that comes out before it starts and he that comes out before it starts and he that comes out before it starts and he says, "Count how many times the ball is says, "Count how many times the ball is says, "Count how many times the ball is being passed." And so you watch the being passed." And so you watch the being passed." And so you watch the video and you count like one time, two video and you count like one time, two video and you count like one time, two times. And as they're passing the ball, times. And as they're passing the ball, times. And as they're passing the ball, these participants are walking around these participants are walking around these participants are walking around each other. And so it kind of looks, you each other. And so it kind of looks, you each other. And so it kind of looks, you got to really pay attention who's got to really pay attention who's got to really pay attention who's passing the ball. At the end of the passing the ball. At the end of the passing the ball. At the end of the video, you expect the professor to come video, you expect the professor to come video, you expect the professor to come out and say, "How many times did the out and say, "How many times did the out and say, "How many times did the ball get passed?" And you've got your ball get passed?" And you've got your ball get passed?" And you've got your number, you know, 14 or whatever. And he number, you know, 14 or whatever. And he number, you know, 14 or whatever. And he says, "Did you see the gorilla?" says, "Did you see the gorilla?" says, "Did you see the gorilla?" &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; You're like, "What?" They rewind the &gt;&gt; You're like, "What?" They rewind the &gt;&gt; You're like, "What?" They rewind the video and you see for the first time a video and you see for the first time a video and you see for the first time a man in a gorilla suit walks right man in a gorilla suit walks right man in a gorilla suit walks right through the group. Y through the group. Y through the group. Y &gt;&gt; you didn't even notice it. Walks right &gt;&gt; you didn't even notice it. Walks right &gt;&gt; you didn't even notice it. Walks right in front of your view, right in front of in front of your view, right in front of in front of your view, right in front of your vision wasn't registered because your vision wasn't registered because your vision wasn't registered because you were only paying attention to the you were only paying attention to the you were only paying attention to the ball being passed. In other words, if ball being passed. In other words, if ball being passed. In other words, if you're working out and you're the main you're working out and you're the main you're working out and you're the main reason, the thing that you want, the reason, the thing that you want, the reason, the thing that you want, the thing that you're focusing on is how I thing that you're focusing on is how I thing that you're focusing on is how I look, all you're going to notice is that look, all you're going to notice is that look, all you're going to notice is that you're going to miss all this other you're going to miss all this other you're going to miss all this other wonderful things that are happening. And wonderful things that are happening. And wonderful things that are happening. And you will never develop a complete you will never develop a complete you will never develop a complete relationship with fitness. It will never relationship with fitness. It will never relationship with fitness. It will never develop into a long lasting forever develop into a long lasting forever develop into a long lasting forever relationship. It just won't. Uh my relationship. It just won't. Uh my relationship. It just won't. Uh my favorite people to talk to on this favorite people to talk to on this favorite people to talk to on this specific subject were always my members specific subject were always my members specific subject were always my members that used to come into my gyms who were that used to come into my gyms who were that used to come into my gyms who were in their 60s and 70s uh who were in their 60s and 70s uh who were in their 60s and 70s uh who were consistent. I used to love talking was consistent. I used to love talking was consistent. I used to love talking was my favorite members and you would see my favorite members and you would see my favorite members and you would see them because you would know who they them because you would know who they them because you would know who they were not just cuz they looked fit but were not just cuz they looked fit but were not just cuz they looked fit but because they were so consistent. They because they were so consistent. They because they were so consistent. They were like your regulars. Like you'd come were like your regulars. Like you'd come were like your regulars. Like you'd come in typically in the morning in typically in the morning in typically in the morning &gt;&gt; uh sometimes late morning and I'd see &gt;&gt; uh sometimes late morning and I'd see &gt;&gt; uh sometimes late morning and I'd see them come in every you know 5 days a them come in every you know 5 days a them come in every you know 5 days a week or something or four days a week week or something or four days a week week or something or four days a week and I'd see them come in. They're super and I'd see them come in. They're super and I'd see them come in. They're super consistent like clockwork. They're consistent like clockwork. They're consistent like clockwork. They're retired and they show up great attitude. retired and they show up great attitude. retired and they show up great attitude. They come and do the same, you know, They come and do the same, you know, They come and do the same, you know, they do a workout leave. And so when they do a workout leave. And so when they do a workout leave. And so when you're managing a gym, if you're a good you're managing a gym, if you're a good you're managing a gym, if you're a good manager, you want to know your members, manager, you want to know your members, manager, you want to know your members, right? It's like your, this is my home. right? It's like your, this is my home. right? It's like your, this is my home. And so I want to know the people. So I'd And so I want to know the people. So I'd And so I want to know the people. So I'd start talking to these people. And being start talking to these people. And being start talking to these people. And being a fitness guy, I was always curious. And a fitness guy, I was always curious. And a fitness guy, I was always curious. And the number one question was always like, the number one question was always like, the number one question was always like, "How long have you been doing this?" "How long have you been doing this?" "How long have you been doing this?" &gt;&gt; And what do you love about it? Because I &gt;&gt; And what do you love about it? Because I &gt;&gt; And what do you love about it? Because I was just curious like, "Man, you're you was just curious like, "Man, you're you was just curious like, "Man, you're you look like you're in your 60s, I'm look like you're in your 60s, I'm look like you're in your 60s, I'm guessing. Uh, you know, that's what I'm guessing. Uh, you know, that's what I'm guessing. Uh, you know, that's what I'm thinking. And you're so consistent. you thinking. And you're so consistent. you thinking. And you're so consistent. you look great. You got all this energy. look great. You got all this energy. look great. You got all this energy. Like, wh how long have you been doing Like, wh how long have you been doing Like, wh how long have you been doing this? And I would always ask, "Hey, man, this? And I would always ask, "Hey, man, this? And I would always ask, "Hey, man, how long you been working out?" "4 how long you been working out?" "4 how long you been working out?" "4 years, 50 years, 30 years." I'd be like, years, 50 years, 30 years." I'd be like, years, 50 years, 30 years." I'd be like, "Whoa, why do you keep doing it? What do "Whoa, why do you keep doing it? What do "Whoa, why do you keep doing it? What do you love about it?" And I would expect you love about it?" And I would expect you love about it?" And I would expect them to say things like, you know, I them to say things like, you know, I them to say things like, you know, I like my biceps or I'm jacked or makes me like my biceps or I'm jacked or makes me like my biceps or I'm jacked or makes me look good. That was never the answer. look good. That was never the answer. look good. That was never the answer. &gt;&gt; That was never the answer. It was always &gt;&gt; That was never the answer. It was always &gt;&gt; That was never the answer. It was always something like, um, oh man, I like the something like, um, oh man, I like the something like, um, oh man, I like the way I feel. uh gives me so much mental way I feel. uh gives me so much mental way I feel. uh gives me so much mental clarity. clarity. clarity. &gt;&gt; It's like purpose to get out of bed. &gt;&gt; It's like purpose to get out of bed. &gt;&gt; It's like purpose to get out of bed. &gt;&gt; It makes me happy. I love seeing the &gt;&gt; It makes me happy. I love seeing the &gt;&gt; It makes me happy. I love seeing the people that are in here. It's like all people that are in here. It's like all people that are in here. It's like all the stuff that I didn't anticipate. And the stuff that I didn't anticipate. And the stuff that I didn't anticipate. And then of course as I got older um and then of course as I got older um and then of course as I got older um and continued uh training people and working continued uh training people and working continued uh training people and working with people, I realized that they with people, I realized that they with people, I realized that they figured it out. And so these are the figured it out. And so these are the figured it out. And so these are the things that you focus on with fitness. things that you focus on with fitness. things that you focus on with fitness. And I'm going to tell you this right And I'm going to tell you this right And I'm going to tell you this right now. If you focus on those things, now. If you focus on those things, now. If you focus on those things, here's how I sell it to you. Because here's how I sell it to you. Because here's how I sell it to you. Because part of my job is to sell to you the part of my job is to sell to you the part of my job is to sell to you the right things. Because I know that the right things. Because I know that the right things. Because I know that the other guys sell the wrong things and other guys sell the wrong things and other guys sell the wrong things and they sell it very effectively. It's real they sell it very effectively. It's real they sell it very effectively. It's real easy to sell the wrong things. By the easy to sell the wrong things. By the easy to sell the wrong things. By the way, I could sell the wrong things all way, I could sell the wrong things all way, I could sell the wrong things all day long. Super simple. Lose 30 lbs in day long. Super simple. Lose 30 lbs in day long. Super simple. Lose 30 lbs in 30 days, take this pill, uh, and people 30 days, take this pill, uh, and people 30 days, take this pill, uh, and people will buy it or I'll, you know, show will buy it or I'll, you know, show will buy it or I'll, you know, show before and afters and do this thing and before and afters and do this thing and before and afters and do this thing and it'll work or whatever. But here's how I it'll work or whatever. But here's how I it'll work or whatever. But here's how I sell it to you. If you focus on all sell it to you. If you focus on all sell it to you. If you focus on all those other things, those other things, those other things, the side effect that will occur the side effect that will occur the side effect that will occur guaranteed is the physical visual guaranteed is the physical visual guaranteed is the physical visual changes. You will get leaner, you will changes. You will get leaner, you will changes. You will get leaner, you will build muscle, you will look more build muscle, you will look more build muscle, you will look more attractive. Uh you'll get all those attractive. Uh you'll get all those attractive. Uh you'll get all those wonderful things as a side effect, but wonderful things as a side effect, but wonderful things as a side effect, but the main effect is I'm developing the main effect is I'm developing the main effect is I'm developing because a relationship is something you because a relationship is something you because a relationship is something you develop, right? People have been married develop, right? People have been married develop, right? People have been married for 50 years. They didn't have that for 50 years. They didn't have that for 50 years. They didn't have that solid relationship in year 1 or even solid relationship in year 1 or even solid relationship in year 1 or even year five. Uh it took time. You develop year five. Uh it took time. You develop year five. Uh it took time. You develop a relationship with fitness where you'll a relationship with fitness where you'll a relationship with fitness where you'll never stop and it changes based on your never stop and it changes based on your never stop and it changes based on your life. life. life. &gt;&gt; The rigidity around it isn't what you &gt;&gt; The rigidity around it isn't what you &gt;&gt; The rigidity around it isn't what you think. It's like, man, there was a think. It's like, man, there was a think. It's like, man, there was a period of time when I had kids and so I period of time when I had kids and so I period of time when I had kids and so I had to change my workout or my work was had to change my workout or my work was had to change my workout or my work was real busy or I got sick that one time real busy or I got sick that one time real busy or I got sick that one time had that thing that happened, so my had that thing that happened, so my had that thing that happened, so my workouts changed to make me feel uh, you workouts changed to make me feel uh, you workouts changed to make me feel uh, you know, better as a result. I remember the know, better as a result. I remember the know, better as a result. I remember the first time I experienced that, I had a first time I experienced that, I had a first time I experienced that, I had a close family member who was battling close family member who was battling close family member who was battling cancer. This was a 2-year ordeal. Very cancer. This was a 2-year ordeal. Very cancer. This was a 2-year ordeal. Very stressful, very difficult. And I stressful, very difficult. And I stressful, very difficult. And I remember finding myself working out just remember finding myself working out just remember finding myself working out just to alleviate stress. to alleviate stress. to alleviate stress. &gt;&gt; And it totally changed my workouts. I &gt;&gt; And it totally changed my workouts. I &gt;&gt; And it totally changed my workouts. I wasn't going in there like pushing the wasn't going in there like pushing the wasn't going in there like pushing the weights and whatever. And it was like weights and whatever. And it was like weights and whatever. And it was like &gt;&gt; it's so motable. &gt;&gt; it's so motable. &gt;&gt; it's so motable. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like you can Yeah. You can do just a &gt;&gt; Like you can Yeah. You can do just a &gt;&gt; Like you can Yeah. You can do just a therapeutic uh movement session. You can therapeutic uh movement session. You can therapeutic uh movement session. You can you can have a highintensity session. you can have a highintensity session. you can have a highintensity session. You can have a long endurance session You can have a long endurance session You can have a long endurance session where it builds all this cognitive where it builds all this cognitive where it builds all this cognitive clarity. There's just so many different clarity. There's just so many different clarity. There's just so many different ways you can utilize fitness in your ways you can utilize fitness in your ways you can utilize fitness in your life and it it enhances to the earlier life and it it enhances to the earlier life and it it enhances to the earlier point so many facets of your life. Isn't point so many facets of your life. Isn't point so many facets of your life. Isn't it's Isn't it interesting that there's I it's Isn't it interesting that there's I it's Isn't it interesting that there's I feel like there's a lot of things in our feel like there's a lot of things in our feel like there's a lot of things in our life that um the relationship right if life that um the relationship right if life that um the relationship right if you don't figure that piece out like you don't figure that piece out like you don't figure that piece out like listening to obviously I started it off listening to obviously I started it off listening to obviously I started it off by talking about the relationship with by talking about the relationship with by talking about the relationship with another person and how this is similar another person and how this is similar another person and how this is similar to with choosing to love I also to with choosing to love I also to with choosing to love I also listening to you talk about it think listening to you talk about it think listening to you talk about it think about um your relationship with money about um your relationship with money about um your relationship with money &gt;&gt; um if you're always pursuing more money &gt;&gt; um if you're always pursuing more money &gt;&gt; um if you're always pursuing more money more money more and you don't realize more money more and you don't realize more money more and you don't realize &gt;&gt; or buying things. &gt;&gt; or buying things. &gt;&gt; or buying things. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Exactly. If you don't realize like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Exactly. If you don't realize like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Exactly. If you don't realize like the one of the best parts of it is a the one of the best parts of it is a the one of the best parts of it is a it's a tool to gain back time. It's a it's a tool to gain back time. It's a it's a tool to gain back time. It's a tool to give and help others. It's a tool to give and help others. It's a tool to give and help others. It's a tool to like create provide safety, tool to like create provide safety, tool to like create provide safety, protection, all the like if you don't protection, all the like if you don't protection, all the like if you don't connect the dots connect the dots connect the dots &gt;&gt; to the benefits of more of it and then &gt;&gt; to the benefits of more of it and then &gt;&gt; to the benefits of more of it and then what to do with it. Then you always end what to do with it. Then you always end what to do with it. Then you always end up just moving the goalpost and trying up just moving the goalpost and trying up just moving the goalpost and trying to fill this. Yeah. never happy and just to fill this. Yeah. never happy and just to fill this. Yeah. never happy and just another zero gets out of the bank another zero gets out of the bank another zero gets out of the bank account and it's just like and you and account and it's just like and you and account and it's just like and you and you thought but when you started on that you thought but when you started on that you thought but when you started on that oh if I was just this rich or I had just oh if I was just this rich or I had just oh if I was just this rich or I had just this much money this much money this much money &gt;&gt; you know what's it's so crazy what &gt;&gt; you know what's it's so crazy what &gt;&gt; you know what's it's so crazy what you're saying too but uh first of all you're saying too but uh first of all you're saying too but uh first of all there's wonderful data to support what there's wonderful data to support what there's wonderful data to support what you're saying so not to get off on a you're saying so not to get off on a you're saying so not to get off on a tangent but when they look at how h how tangent but when they look at how h how tangent but when they look at how h how money affects happiness buying things is money affects happiness buying things is money affects happiness buying things is the worst way to do it buying experience the worst way to do it buying experience the worst way to do it buying experience is a little bit better giving money to is a little bit better giving money to is a little bit better giving money to help people voluntarily help people voluntarily help people voluntarily produces the same amount ount of produces the same amount ount of produces the same amount ount of happiness every time you think about happiness every time you think about happiness every time you think about that thing you did for the rest of your that thing you did for the rest of your that thing you did for the rest of your life. life. life. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Buying something will never do that. In &gt;&gt; Buying something will never do that. In &gt;&gt; Buying something will never do that. In fact, here's how you know. Buy something fact, here's how you know. Buy something fact, here's how you know. Buy something and then go buy it again. See if you and then go buy it again. See if you and then go buy it again. See if you feel the same thing. feel the same thing. feel the same thing. &gt;&gt; You wouldn't, right? &gt;&gt; You wouldn't, right? &gt;&gt; You wouldn't, right? &gt;&gt; But you give money in a genuine way &gt;&gt; But you give money in a genuine way &gt;&gt; But you give money in a genuine way really helps somebody really helps somebody really helps somebody &gt;&gt; for the rest of your life when you hear &gt;&gt; for the rest of your life when you hear &gt;&gt; for the rest of your life when you hear about it. When you talk about it, man, I about it. When you talk about it, man, I about it. When you talk about it, man, I remember that time I help. You'll feel remember that time I help. You'll feel remember that time I help. You'll feel the same. And the data the same. And the data the same. And the data &gt;&gt; the data totally supports. &gt;&gt; the data totally supports. &gt;&gt; the data totally supports. &gt;&gt; And if you don't unlock that and figure &gt;&gt; And if you don't unlock that and figure &gt;&gt; And if you don't unlock that and figure that out along the way, then you end up that out along the way, then you end up that out along the way, then you end up having this really unhealthy having this really unhealthy having this really unhealthy relationship. relationship. relationship. &gt;&gt; Here's here's how you know. Okay? &gt;&gt; Here's here's how you know. Okay? &gt;&gt; Here's here's how you know. Okay? Because here's what the the data will Because here's what the the data will Because here's what the the data will show you that being leaner, having more show you that being leaner, having more show you that being leaner, having more muscle means that you're happier. It muscle means that you're happier. It muscle means that you're happier. It means that you're healthier. But I could means that you're healthier. But I could means that you're healthier. But I could very easily find 10 people with a low very easily find 10 people with a low very easily find 10 people with a low body fat percentage with a lot of muscle body fat percentage with a lot of muscle body fat percentage with a lot of muscle and I could show you that they're very and I could show you that they're very and I could show you that they're very unhealthy. I could show you their their unhealthy. I could show you their their unhealthy. I could show you their their labs that they're very unhealthy. Okay? labs that they're very unhealthy. Okay? labs that they're very unhealthy. Okay? I could very easily pick those people. I could very easily pick those people. I could very easily pick those people. Most of them will probably be fitness Most of them will probably be fitness Most of them will probably be fitness influencers. So, the reason why the data influencers. So, the reason why the data influencers. So, the reason why the data shows leaner muscle equates happiness is shows leaner muscle equates happiness is shows leaner muscle equates happiness is because of what I said earlier. It's not because of what I said earlier. It's not because of what I said earlier. It's not because of the way they look. There's a because of the way they look. There's a because of the way they look. There's a lot of people that look that way that lot of people that look that way that lot of people that look that way that are not healthy both uh physiologically are not healthy both uh physiologically are not healthy both uh physiologically or mentally. But we've got it all or mentally. But we've got it all or mentally. But we've got it all twisted and mixed up. And if you don't twisted and mixed up. And if you don't twisted and mixed up. And if you don't uh if you don't aim for what we're uh if you don't aim for what we're uh if you don't aim for what we're saying, you're destined for one of two saying, you're destined for one of two saying, you're destined for one of two things. either one, you're gonna go on things. either one, you're gonna go on things. either one, you're gonna go on and off, on and off, on and off, and off, on and off, on and off, and off, on and off, on and off, eventually ending with off because eventually ending with off because eventually ending with off because you'll get sick of that. Or two, uh, and you'll get sick of that. Or two, uh, and you'll get sick of that. Or two, uh, and I don't know which one's worse, you'll I don't know which one's worse, you'll I don't know which one's worse, you'll become, uh, the body obsessed, uh, become, uh, the body obsessed, uh, become, uh, the body obsessed, uh, fitness fanatic who, um, they can't age. fitness fanatic who, um, they can't age. fitness fanatic who, um, they can't age. They just can't age and they constantly They just can't age and they constantly They just can't age and they constantly throw things at themselves and find throw things at themselves and find throw things at themselves and find themselves getting more and more themselves getting more and more themselves getting more and more desperate as, uh, life goes on. And so, desperate as, uh, life goes on. And so, desperate as, uh, life goes on. And so, and we know uh, people like that. So and we know uh, people like that. So and we know uh, people like that. So &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; but that's it. That's it right there. &gt;&gt; but that's it. That's it right there. &gt;&gt; but that's it. That's it right there. And if you approach it the way we're And if you approach it the way we're And if you approach it the way we're saying, uh, the right methods and the saying, uh, the right methods and the saying, uh, the right methods and the right diet actually starts to follow as right diet actually starts to follow as right diet actually starts to follow as well. It's so long as the root of why well. It's so long as the root of why well. It's so long as the root of why you're doing it. you're doing it. you're doing it. &gt;&gt; Yeah. If you really struggle with this, &gt;&gt; Yeah. If you really struggle with this, &gt;&gt; Yeah. If you really struggle with this, I think it's it's a valuable, this is I think it's it's a valuable, this is I think it's it's a valuable, this is why we always talk about the value of a why we always talk about the value of a why we always talk about the value of a good personal trainer, you know, a good personal trainer, you know, a good personal trainer, you know, a really a really good trainer and a really a really good trainer and a really a really good trainer and a coach. I think this is what's the most coach. I think this is what's the most coach. I think this is what's the most valuable part about them. Um, you know, valuable part about them. Um, you know, valuable part about them. Um, you know, anybody who's had experience in this can anybody who's had experience in this can anybody who's had experience in this can can put together macros and a decent can put together macros and a decent can put together macros and a decent workout program, but a really good coach workout program, but a really good coach workout program, but a really good coach can find kind of where somebody can take can find kind of where somebody can take can find kind of where somebody can take somebody who says, "I hate to work out. somebody who says, "I hate to work out. somebody who says, "I hate to work out. I'm not into it." I'm not into it." I'm not into it." &gt;&gt; Your buttons. &gt;&gt; Your buttons. &gt;&gt; Your buttons. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And figure out what what that is. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And figure out what what that is. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And figure out what what that is. Meet that person where they're at and Meet that person where they're at and Meet that person where they're at and then really help that person connect to then really help that person connect to then really help that person connect to the things that they already know that the things that they already know that the things that they already know that they love in their life. Once you can do they love in their life. Once you can do they love in their life. Once you can do that, you unlock something that's really that, you unlock something that's really that, you unlock something that's really special that motivates you to cuz to special that motivates you to cuz to special that motivates you to cuz to your point uh if you uh if you reach a your point uh if you uh if you reach a your point uh if you uh if you reach a level of like peak physical looks and level of like peak physical looks and level of like peak physical looks and phys fitness, uh it's it's cool when you phys fitness, uh it's it's cool when you phys fitness, uh it's it's cool when you get there, get there, get there, &gt;&gt; but it's shortlived. And then if you &gt;&gt; but it's shortlived. And then if you &gt;&gt; but it's shortlived. And then if you haven't learned to connect the dots to haven't learned to connect the dots to haven't learned to connect the dots to all these other things, then it's really all these other things, then it's really all these other things, then it's really tough to stay tough to stay tough to stay &gt;&gt; panic &gt;&gt; panic &gt;&gt; panic &gt;&gt; motivated to keep doing this thing cuz &gt;&gt; motivated to keep doing this thing cuz &gt;&gt; motivated to keep doing this thing cuz you're already like, "Okay, well, I did you're already like, "Okay, well, I did you're already like, "Okay, well, I did the thing and yeah, I was cool. I mean, the thing and yeah, I was cool. I mean, the thing and yeah, I was cool. I mean, I was cool that day and and it felt I was cool that day and and it felt I was cool that day and and it felt really cool and but then it's like uh really cool and but then it's like uh really cool and but then it's like uh but okay, now I don't care anymore and I but okay, now I don't care anymore and I but okay, now I don't care anymore and I know what it took to do that and that know what it took to do that and that know what it took to do that and that was such hard work and sacrifice like I was such hard work and sacrifice like I was such hard work and sacrifice like I just I'll go back." But you have to just I'll go back." But you have to just I'll go back." But you have to really connect it to, oh man, I notice really connect it to, oh man, I notice really connect it to, oh man, I notice when I get my workouts in, I'm just I'm when I get my workouts in, I'm just I'm when I get my workouts in, I'm just I'm a better husband. I'm a more active a better husband. I'm a more active a better husband. I'm a more active father. Um I, you know, I sleep better. father. Um I, you know, I sleep better. father. Um I, you know, I sleep better. I'm more productive. I'm more productive. I'm more productive. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm more I get more done at work &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm more I get more done at work &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm more I get more done at work like that. I'm better to be around like like that. I'm better to be around like like that. I'm better to be around like better mood. better mood. better mood. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You just you start to to see that &gt;&gt; Yeah. You just you start to to see that &gt;&gt; Yeah. You just you start to to see that &gt;&gt; you'll never want to stop. &gt;&gt; you'll never want to stop. &gt;&gt; you'll never want to stop. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And then it and then it the &gt;&gt; Yeah. And then it and then it the &gt;&gt; Yeah. And then it and then it the motivation changes uh to work out and motivation changes uh to work out and motivation changes uh to work out and then it's easier to then it's easier to then it's easier to &gt;&gt; and you modify the workouts &gt;&gt; and you modify the workouts &gt;&gt; and you modify the workouts appropriately. Yeah. Because you don't appropriately. Yeah. Because you don't appropriately. Yeah. Because you don't overtrain, you don't undertrain because overtrain, you don't undertrain because overtrain, you don't undertrain because of how it affects everything else. of how it affects everything else. of how it affects everything else. &gt;&gt; This is what this what I mean I know I &gt;&gt; This is what this what I mean I know I &gt;&gt; This is what this what I mean I know I share all the time so I apologize for share all the time so I apologize for share all the time so I apologize for the people probably tired of hearing the people probably tired of hearing the people probably tired of hearing this but it was such an unlock for me. this but it was such an unlock for me. this but it was such an unlock for me. Um because I was so guilty of the on and Um because I was so guilty of the on and Um because I was so guilty of the on and off the wagon all the time and the off the wagon all the time and the off the wagon all the time and the permission to go there and just do a permission to go there and just do a permission to go there and just do a couple things, you know, or or like I couple things, you know, or or like I couple things, you know, or or like I don't really feel like going, but you don't really feel like going, but you don't really feel like going, but you know what? I need to go there and do know what? I need to go there and do know what? I need to go there and do this one thing, right? Totally. And just this one thing, right? Totally. And just this one thing, right? Totally. And just that permission to do that uh because I that permission to do that uh because I that permission to do that uh because I feel better when I do this thing. Uh feel better when I do this thing. Uh feel better when I do this thing. Uh yeah, I know I'm not going to make huge yeah, I know I'm not going to make huge yeah, I know I'm not going to make huge gains doing one set of something or one gains doing one set of something or one gains doing one set of something or one exercise something, but that permission exercise something, but that permission exercise something, but that permission of doing that was such an unlock uh for of doing that was such an unlock uh for of doing that was such an unlock uh for me. I just want to just commend you on me. I just want to just commend you on me. I just want to just commend you on your evolution. You walked in and as your evolution. You walked in and as your evolution. You walked in and as we're talking about growth and we're talking about growth and we're talking about growth and relationship, you walked in today relationship, you walked in today relationship, you walked in today talking about one of the most crazy talking about one of the most crazy talking about one of the most crazy conspiracy theories I've ever heard. conspiracy theories I've ever heard. conspiracy theories I've ever heard. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; And I just remember I remember &gt;&gt; And I just remember I remember &gt;&gt; And I just remember I remember &gt;&gt; you compliment something related to &gt;&gt; you compliment something related to &gt;&gt; you compliment something related to working. working. working. &gt;&gt; I remember &gt;&gt; I remember &gt;&gt; I remember this is my favorite part of you. I this is my favorite part of you. I this is my favorite part of you. I remember when Justin and I would bring remember when Justin and I would bring remember when Justin and I would bring up things up things up things &gt;&gt; and you would make fun of us and you'd &gt;&gt; and you would make fun of us and you'd &gt;&gt; and you would make fun of us and you'd laugh at us and oh, you guys are laugh at us and oh, you guys are laugh at us and oh, you guys are whatever. whatever. whatever. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team. &gt;&gt; Enough of the things that we said. &gt;&gt; Enough of the things that we said. &gt;&gt; Enough of the things that we said. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team now. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team now. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team now. &gt;&gt; have come true. &gt;&gt; have come true. &gt;&gt; have come true. &gt;&gt; I'm on the team where you came in. I &gt;&gt; I'm on the team where you came in. I &gt;&gt; I'm on the team where you came in. I want to hear about cheese. want to hear about cheese. want to hear about cheese. &gt;&gt; Hey, you know what? Crazy, bro. Okay, &gt;&gt; Hey, you know what? Crazy, bro. Okay, &gt;&gt; Hey, you know what? Crazy, bro. Okay, I'll tell you. I was just blew my mind. I'll tell you. I was just blew my mind. I'll tell you. I was just blew my mind. &gt;&gt; By the way, you said it. Justin knew, of &gt;&gt; By the way, you said it. Justin knew, of &gt;&gt; By the way, you said it. Justin knew, of course, right away. course, right away. course, right away. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I know. Justin's like, I know. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I know. Justin's like, I know. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I know. Justin's like, I know. Actually, I didn't even finish saying Actually, I didn't even finish saying Actually, I didn't even finish saying it. I said, "Bro, did you know about it. I said, "Bro, did you know about it. I said, "Bro, did you know about cheese?" He's like, "FISER." I'M LIKE, cheese?" He's like, "FISER." I'M LIKE, cheese?" He's like, "FISER." I'M LIKE, "WHAT?" I'M LIKE, YOU HAVEN'T brought "WHAT?" I'M LIKE, YOU HAVEN'T brought "WHAT?" I'M LIKE, YOU HAVEN'T brought this up? I'm like, this is crazy. this up? I'm like, this is crazy. this up? I'm like, this is crazy. &gt;&gt; There's just so much like &gt;&gt; There's just so much like &gt;&gt; There's just so much like &gt;&gt; Fizer owns 90% of all the cheese here. &gt;&gt; Fizer owns 90% of all the cheese here. &gt;&gt; Fizer owns 90% of all the cheese here. &gt;&gt; 90%. &gt;&gt; 90%. &gt;&gt; 90%. &gt;&gt; I eat cheese every day. &gt;&gt; I eat cheese every day. &gt;&gt; I eat cheese every day. &gt;&gt; I know. And a drug company's making my &gt;&gt; I know. And a drug company's making my &gt;&gt; I know. And a drug company's making my cheese. cheese. cheese. &gt;&gt; Ask me what brands I use. Nonfiser ones. &gt;&gt; Ask me what brands I use. Nonfiser ones. &gt;&gt; Ask me what brands I use. Nonfiser ones. &gt;&gt; You specifically go by &gt;&gt; You specifically go by &gt;&gt; You specifically go by &gt;&gt; specifically? Yeah. Like TM's one of &gt;&gt; specifically? Yeah. Like TM's one of &gt;&gt; specifically? Yeah. Like TM's one of them. And I I live and die by Took. them. And I I live and die by Took. them. And I I live and die by Took. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; I mean, why does why does a pharma &gt;&gt; I mean, why does why does a pharma &gt;&gt; I mean, why does why does a pharma company own 90%? Great question. company own 90%? Great question. company own 90%? Great question. &gt;&gt; And so interesting that so many people &gt;&gt; And so interesting that so many people &gt;&gt; And so interesting that so many people have intolerances to this. This is so have intolerances to this. This is so have intolerances to this. This is so and then oddly when you go somewhere and then oddly when you go somewhere and then oddly when you go somewhere where Europe where they have strict where Europe where they have strict where Europe where they have strict regulations around that and no regulations around that and no regulations around that and no pharmaceutical comes in. Totally fine. pharmaceutical comes in. Totally fine. pharmaceutical comes in. Totally fine. You can go that. We've always everybody You can go that. We've always everybody You can go that. We've always everybody has talked about this. We have many has talked about this. We have many has talked about this. We have many people that go have people that go have people that go have &gt;&gt; I can eat bread. They go bread pasta &gt;&gt; I can eat bread. They go bread pasta &gt;&gt; I can eat bread. They go bread pasta cheese when they when they're in in cheese when they when they're in in cheese when they when they're in in Europe. Totally fine. Europe. Totally fine. Europe. Totally fine. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I hadn't even thought of that &gt;&gt; Yeah. I hadn't even thought of that &gt;&gt; Yeah. I hadn't even thought of that angle. angle. angle. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; But in America it's a huge problem. &gt;&gt; But in America it's a huge problem. &gt;&gt; But in America it's a huge problem. &gt;&gt; What's that guy's name? Is it Brett &gt;&gt; What's that guy's name? Is it Brett &gt;&gt; What's that guy's name? Is it Brett Weinstein? Is that his name? Brett, is Weinstein? Is that his name? Brett, is Weinstein? Is that his name? Brett, is it Brett? You know that one scientist it Brett? You know that one scientist it Brett? You know that one scientist that you know what I'm talking about? He that you know what I'm talking about? He that you know what I'm talking about? He went to Europe. He's got terrible gluten went to Europe. He's got terrible gluten went to Europe. He's got terrible gluten into terrible. into terrible. into terrible. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Where he gets like terrible reaction &gt;&gt; Where he gets like terrible reaction &gt;&gt; Where he gets like terrible reaction even crosscontamination. Him and his even crosscontamination. Him and his even crosscontamination. Him and his wife went over there. He was doing this wife went over there. He was doing this wife went over there. He was doing this like like you know videos on his like like you know videos on his like like you know videos on his Instagram or whatever and he was like Instagram or whatever and he was like Instagram or whatever and he was like I'm eating bread. I'm eating pasta. I've I'm eating bread. I'm eating pasta. I've I'm eating bread. I'm eating pasta. I've had no reaction. I'm going to keep like had no reaction. I'm going to keep like had no reaction. I'm going to keep like letting you guys know letting you guys know letting you guys know &gt;&gt; from so many people have gone to Europe. &gt;&gt; from so many people have gone to Europe. &gt;&gt; from so many people have gone to Europe. &gt;&gt; Dude, the difference is &gt;&gt; Dude, the difference is &gt;&gt; Dude, the difference is &gt;&gt; what are they doing to our food? &gt;&gt; what are they doing to our food? &gt;&gt; what are they doing to our food? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I know. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I know. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I know. &gt;&gt; What are they doing to our But why does &gt;&gt; What are they doing to our But why does &gt;&gt; What are they doing to our But why does Fizer own cheese? That's weird. Fizer own cheese? That's weird. Fizer own cheese? That's weird. &gt;&gt; Now, here's what I'm getting. I don't &gt;&gt; Now, here's what I'm getting. I don't &gt;&gt; Now, here's what I'm getting. I don't think they own cheese, but they created think they own cheese, but they created think they own cheese, but they created this uh product. this uh product. this uh product. &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a renet is what you usually &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a renet is what you usually &gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a renet is what you usually use to make cheese and it's their use to make cheese and it's their use to make cheese and it's their version of it and it's in 90% of the version of it and it's in 90% of the version of it and it's in 90% of the cheese. cheese. cheese. &gt;&gt; Oh, so &gt;&gt; Oh, so &gt;&gt; Oh, so &gt;&gt; which is just as insidious, &gt;&gt; which is just as insidious, &gt;&gt; which is just as insidious, &gt;&gt; which is &gt;&gt; which is &gt;&gt; which is they don't own it cuz that would they don't own it cuz that would they don't own it cuz that would probably make everybody be a huge like probably make everybody be a huge like probably make everybody be a huge like &gt;&gt; let's rent it. Let's we got to figure &gt;&gt; let's rent it. Let's we got to figure &gt;&gt; let's rent it. Let's we got to figure this out. this out. this out. &gt;&gt; Why does Fizer &gt;&gt; Why does Fizer &gt;&gt; Why does Fizer &gt;&gt; It's like an enzyme. &gt;&gt; It's like an enzyme. &gt;&gt; It's like an enzyme. &gt;&gt; But why does F So they've genetically &gt;&gt; But why does F So they've genetically &gt;&gt; But why does F So they've genetically &gt;&gt; So they have a labmade enzyme. Yes. &gt;&gt; So they have a labmade enzyme. Yes. &gt;&gt; So they have a labmade enzyme. Yes. Yeah, that uh is a they call it Yeah, that uh is a they call it Yeah, that uh is a they call it genetically engineered version of genetically engineered version of genetically engineered version of &gt;&gt; which is not allowed in anywhere in &gt;&gt; which is not allowed in anywhere in &gt;&gt; which is not allowed in anywhere in Europe. Cheese. Look up Fizer renit Europe. Cheese. Look up Fizer renit Europe. Cheese. Look up Fizer renit versus regular renet. Why would you go versus regular renet. Why would you go versus regular renet. Why would you go with the Fiser one? with the Fiser one? with the Fiser one? &gt;&gt; Here's what I've decided by the way to &gt;&gt; Here's what I've decided by the way to &gt;&gt; Here's what I've decided by the way to your point. Why he's looking that up your point. Why he's looking that up your point. Why he's looking that up about me and the conspiracy. I think now about me and the conspiracy. I think now about me and the conspiracy. I think now uh uh uh &gt;&gt; Oh, are you going to go further than we &gt;&gt; Oh, are you going to go further than we &gt;&gt; Oh, are you going to go further than we are? are? are? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I am. I am. I I think to to not &gt;&gt; Yeah, I am. I am. I I think to to not &gt;&gt; Yeah, I am. I am. I I think to to not believe in these things makes you a believe in these things makes you a believe in these things makes you a conspiracy theorist. conspiracy theorist. conspiracy theorist. Yeah, that's where that's how far I am. Yeah, that's where that's how far I am. Yeah, that's where that's how far I am. I'm I'm I'm &gt;&gt; That's how angry I've been forever. &gt;&gt; That's how angry I've been forever. &gt;&gt; That's how angry I've been forever. &gt;&gt; I'm just like &gt;&gt; I'm just like &gt;&gt; I'm just like &gt;&gt; I'm like, you know, you choose not to &gt;&gt; I'm like, you know, you choose not to &gt;&gt; I'm like, you know, you choose not to look at these things. I might look at look at these things. I might look at look at these things. I might look at you now. And you now. And you now. And &gt;&gt; how do you how naive are you? &gt;&gt; how do you how naive are you? &gt;&gt; how do you how naive are you? &gt;&gt; So, here's the reason. Uh, it's cheaper. &gt;&gt; So, here's the reason. Uh, it's cheaper. &gt;&gt; So, here's the reason. Uh, it's cheaper. &gt;&gt; Here's the reason they give it to you. &gt;&gt; Here's the reason they give it to you. &gt;&gt; Here's the reason they give it to you. &gt;&gt; Vegetarian and consistent alternative to &gt;&gt; Vegetarian and consistent alternative to &gt;&gt; Vegetarian and consistent alternative to traditional calf renit. traditional calf renit. traditional calf renit. &gt;&gt; Vegetarian. &gt;&gt; Vegetarian. &gt;&gt; Vegetarian. &gt;&gt; So, they say it's molecularly identical &gt;&gt; So, they say it's molecularly identical &gt;&gt; So, they say it's molecularly identical to taff calf renet, but it's not calf. to taff calf renet, but it's not calf. to taff calf renet, but it's not calf. molecularly identical. molecularly identical. molecularly identical. &gt;&gt; Molecular my ass. &gt;&gt; Molecular my ass. &gt;&gt; Molecular my ass. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Interesting. &gt;&gt; Interesting. &gt;&gt; Interesting. &gt;&gt; I mean, here's I I don't know how I &gt;&gt; I mean, here's I I don't know how I &gt;&gt; I mean, here's I I don't know how I mean, I definitely have razed you guys mean, I definitely have razed you guys mean, I definitely have razed you guys for a long time now, but I don't know for a long time now, but I don't know for a long time now, but I don't know how you go the last four years in how you go the last four years in how you go the last four years in someone's shoes like my shoes and not someone's shoes like my shoes and not someone's shoes like my shoes and not get converted. get converted. get converted. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; There's just the I mean, &gt;&gt; There's just the I mean, &gt;&gt; There's just the I mean, &gt;&gt; it's a full-on tipping point. &gt;&gt; it's a full-on tipping point. &gt;&gt; it's a full-on tipping point. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, at that point, I would &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, at that point, I would &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, at that point, I would have just to be in fullon denial to stay have just to be in fullon denial to stay have just to be in fullon denial to stay on that side. on that side. on that side. &gt;&gt; Listen, &gt;&gt; Listen, &gt;&gt; Listen, people are still If tomorrow, this is people are still If tomorrow, this is people are still If tomorrow, this is how crazy it's gone. If tomorrow a a how crazy it's gone. If tomorrow a a how crazy it's gone. If tomorrow a a politician pulls his face off and is a politician pulls his face off and is a politician pulls his face off and is a lizard. lizard. lizard. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; I would not be surprised. Not that Did &gt;&gt; I would not be surprised. Not that Did &gt;&gt; I would not be surprised. Not that Did you guys Do you guys see this? Is also you guys Do you guys see this? Is also you guys Do you guys see this? Is also another one crazy that I'm like, how is another one crazy that I'm like, how is another one crazy that I'm like, how is not everybody talking about this? Cuz I not everybody talking about this? Cuz I not everybody talking about this? Cuz I know I know 3 million know I know 3 million know I know 3 million &gt;&gt; documents were released for the Epstein. &gt;&gt; documents were released for the Epstein. &gt;&gt; documents were released for the Epstein. &gt;&gt; By the way, there is. But again, this is &gt;&gt; By the way, there is. But again, this is &gt;&gt; By the way, there is. But again, this is all like sub media. So this is all like all like sub media. So this is all like all like sub media. So this is all like the independent circles and like podcast the independent circles and like podcast the independent circles and like podcast and YouTube and but but mainstream media and YouTube and but but mainstream media and YouTube and but but mainstream media of course you're not going to cover it. of course you're not going to cover it. of course you're not going to cover it. &gt;&gt; So so what &gt;&gt; So so what &gt;&gt; So so what &gt;&gt; there is a uh what do you call that? Not &gt;&gt; there is a uh what do you call that? Not &gt;&gt; there is a uh what do you call that? Not a dossier or where you're uh where the a dossier or where you're uh where the a dossier or where you're uh where the uh subpoena uh subpoena uh subpoena &gt;&gt; not a subpoena where the the Senates are &gt;&gt; not a subpoena where the the Senates are &gt;&gt; not a subpoena where the the Senates are basically having a uh there it's not a basically having a uh there it's not a basically having a uh there it's not a hearing but it's like um not an hearing but it's like um not an hearing but it's like um not an interrogation either the lack of word interrogation either the lack of word interrogation either the lack of word here here here &gt;&gt; inquiry or something. &gt;&gt; inquiry or something. &gt;&gt; inquiry or something. &gt;&gt; Yeah, like an inquiry that for a lack of &gt;&gt; Yeah, like an inquiry that for a lack of &gt;&gt; Yeah, like an inquiry that for a lack of better word we'll use that. But one of better word we'll use that. But one of better word we'll use that. But one of the senators is getting ready to like the senators is getting ready to like the senators is getting ready to like drill like one of the one of the people drill like one of the one of the people drill like one of the one of the people and Epstein is like texting her. and Epstein is like texting her. and Epstein is like texting her. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. &gt;&gt; What to what to ask like they have the &gt;&gt; What to what to ask like they have the &gt;&gt; What to what to ask like they have the time stamps of their phones. You see her time stamps of their phones. You see her time stamps of their phones. You see her look down look down look down &gt;&gt; totally influencing her. &gt;&gt; totally influencing her. &gt;&gt; totally influencing her. &gt;&gt; Yes. Influencing her on what to like &gt;&gt; Yes. Influencing her on what to like &gt;&gt; Yes. Influencing her on what to like what? what? what? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Like and like nobody like we're like &gt;&gt; Like and like nobody like we're like &gt;&gt; Like and like nobody like we're like that is happening in our government. that is happening in our government. that is happening in our government. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Like because you you &gt;&gt; Yeah. Like because you you &gt;&gt; Yeah. Like because you you &gt;&gt; documents there's nobody right on on any &gt;&gt; documents there's nobody right on on any &gt;&gt; documents there's nobody right on on any side of the aisle that doesn't think side of the aisle that doesn't think side of the aisle that doesn't think Epstein is this evil bad person and like Epstein is this evil bad person and like Epstein is this evil bad person and like the craziest thing we right everyone the craziest thing we right everyone the craziest thing we right everyone agrees on that like even the the agrees on that like even the the agrees on that like even the the non-conspiracy people at least believe non-conspiracy people at least believe non-conspiracy people at least believe that right there's nobody that that's that right there's nobody that that's that right there's nobody that that's bought in that he was a good guy or bought in that he was a good guy or bought in that he was a good guy or anything right anything right anything right &gt;&gt; dude that's three and a half million &gt;&gt; dude that's three and a half million &gt;&gt; dude that's three and a half million documents just from the FBI and we're documents just from the FBI and we're documents just from the FBI and we're not even talking about the CIA has not even talking about the CIA has not even talking about the CIA has documents that we're not even going to documents that we're not even going to documents that we're not even going to have access to have access to have access to &gt;&gt; and not to mention &gt;&gt; and not to mention &gt;&gt; and not to mention You think Epstein was the only Epstein? You think Epstein was the only Epstein? You think Epstein was the only Epstein? &gt;&gt; No, of course not. &gt;&gt; No, of course not. &gt;&gt; No, of course not. &gt;&gt; There's multiple Epstein out there. &gt;&gt; There's multiple Epstein out there. &gt;&gt; There's multiple Epstein out there. &gt;&gt; And and there's so much. So, but that &gt;&gt; And and there's so much. So, but that &gt;&gt; And and there's so much. So, but that just fascinates me that we have this, just fascinates me that we have this, just fascinates me that we have this, you know, with within our government, you know, with within our government, you know, with within our government, you've got these senators that are you've got these senators that are you've got these senators that are having this conversation, this important having this conversation, this important having this conversation, this important uh in inquiry for Doug's, lack of better uh in inquiry for Doug's, lack of better uh in inquiry for Doug's, lack of better word. I'm just slipping me what what word. I'm just slipping me what what word. I'm just slipping me what what what it is. And a person like that even what it is. And a person like that even what it is. And a person like that even is allowed to be communicating is allowed to be communicating is allowed to be communicating literally so obvious and is is so literally so obvious and is is so literally so obvious and is is so powerful that a senator a s is listening powerful that a senator a s is listening powerful that a senator a s is listening and with blindly asking the question not and with blindly asking the question not and with blindly asking the question not not even knowing what they're crazy just not even knowing what they're crazy just not even knowing what they're crazy just a puppet. a puppet. a puppet. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Hey what's your favorite do you guys &gt;&gt; Hey what's your favorite do you guys &gt;&gt; Hey what's your favorite do you guys have a fuz cuz some of the stuff's so have a fuz cuz some of the stuff's so have a fuz cuz some of the stuff's so dark I don't even want to talk about it dark I don't even want to talk about it dark I don't even want to talk about it but I do have some favorites but I do have some favorites but I do have some favorites &gt;&gt; of the emails that are released. The &gt;&gt; of the emails that are released. The &gt;&gt; of the emails that are released. The other one, my favorite one was other one, my favorite one was other one, my favorite one was &gt;&gt; I like the Bill Gates one, but yeah. &gt;&gt; I like the Bill Gates one, but yeah. &gt;&gt; I like the Bill Gates one, but yeah. &gt;&gt; Okay. My This one's my This was Hillary &gt;&gt; Okay. My This one's my This was Hillary &gt;&gt; Okay. My This one's my This was Hillary Clinton emailing. This is amazing. Clinton emailing. This is amazing. Clinton emailing. This is amazing. Requesting documents pertaining to the Requesting documents pertaining to the Requesting documents pertaining to the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh. resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh. resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh. &gt;&gt; The location of his body and the &gt;&gt; The location of his body and the &gt;&gt; The location of his body and the location of the buried Nephilim. location of the buried Nephilim. location of the buried Nephilim. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm so glad you brought this. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm so glad you brought this. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I'm so glad you brought this. &gt;&gt; What? Does anybody Okay. Do you guys &gt;&gt; What? Does anybody Okay. Do you guys &gt;&gt; What? Does anybody Okay. Do you guys know what? know what? know what? &gt;&gt; Break that all down, please. the &gt;&gt; Break that all down, please. the &gt;&gt; Break that all down, please. the Nephilim in the Old Testament in the Old Nephilim in the Old Testament in the Old Nephilim in the Old Testament in the Old Testament Testament Testament &gt;&gt; when Satan, he convinces a third of the &gt;&gt; when Satan, he convinces a third of the &gt;&gt; when Satan, he convinces a third of the angels to revolt. This is the Bible. angels to revolt. This is the Bible. angels to revolt. This is the Bible. This is why it's so crazy. This is why it's so crazy. This is why it's so crazy. &gt;&gt; He He convinces a third of the angels to &gt;&gt; He He convinces a third of the angels to &gt;&gt; He He convinces a third of the angels to rebel and there's a war that happens and rebel and there's a war that happens and rebel and there's a war that happens and God and his angels kick them out, throw God and his angels kick them out, throw God and his angels kick them out, throw them down to earth. Well, a lot of these them down to earth. Well, a lot of these them down to earth. Well, a lot of these angels, right, fallen angels or demons, angels, right, fallen angels or demons, angels, right, fallen angels or demons, they fall, that's what it says in the they fall, that's what it says in the they fall, that's what it says in the Bible, they find women, human women, Bible, they find women, human women, Bible, they find women, human women, attractive and they uh sleep with them. attractive and they uh sleep with them. attractive and they uh sleep with them. So because they can make themselves and So because they can make themselves and So because they can make themselves and look like humans and they produce look like humans and they produce look like humans and they produce offspring that are called the Nephilim. offspring that are called the Nephilim. offspring that are called the Nephilim. These are giants. These are giants. These are giants. &gt;&gt; Giants. &gt;&gt; Giants. &gt;&gt; Giants. &gt;&gt; They're literal giants, okay? &gt;&gt; They're literal giants, okay? &gt;&gt; They're literal giants, okay? &gt;&gt; Who are or killers who eat uh people &gt;&gt; Who are or killers who eat uh people &gt;&gt; Who are or killers who eat uh people like terrible and they ruled the the like terrible and they ruled the the like terrible and they ruled the the world at that time. Part of the reason world at that time. Part of the reason world at that time. Part of the reason why there was a flood was because of why there was a flood was because of why there was a flood was because of these Nephilim. And she said, "I'd like these Nephilim. And she said, "I'd like these Nephilim. And she said, "I'd like to find the burial sites of the to find the burial sites of the to find the burial sites of the Nephilim." Hillary Clinton. Nephilim." Hillary Clinton. Nephilim." Hillary Clinton. &gt;&gt; Yeah. What? Okay, Doug, please look up a &gt;&gt; Yeah. What? Okay, Doug, please look up a &gt;&gt; Yeah. What? Okay, Doug, please look up a Lovelock cave. Lovelock cave. Lovelock cave. &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; What? &gt;&gt; So, they found uh remains in Nevada. &gt;&gt; So, they found uh remains in Nevada. &gt;&gt; So, they found uh remains in Nevada. Love lock cave of these like over 10-ft Love lock cave of these like over 10-ft Love lock cave of these like over 10-ft skeletons with red hair. skeletons with red hair. skeletons with red hair. &gt;&gt; And there's the tribes there that have &gt;&gt; And there's the tribes there that have &gt;&gt; And there's the tribes there that have confirmed this and they have like confirmed this and they have like confirmed this and they have like literature and everything. Uh apparently literature and everything. Uh apparently literature and everything. Uh apparently they they actually like cornered them they they actually like cornered them they they actually like cornered them into this cave and like set it on fire into this cave and like set it on fire into this cave and like set it on fire and there's like remnants of the soot and there's like remnants of the soot and there's like remnants of the soot and everything from the fire. Um, but and everything from the fire. Um, but and everything from the fire. Um, but yeah, I don't know what happened to yeah, I don't know what happened to yeah, I don't know what happened to these skeletons. I think the Smithsonian these skeletons. I think the Smithsonian these skeletons. I think the Smithsonian uh had taken it and then quickly uh had taken it and then quickly uh had taken it and then quickly &gt;&gt; Wasn't there like uh like military &gt;&gt; Wasn't there like uh like military &gt;&gt; Wasn't there like uh like military ports? I think there were like a special ports? I think there were like a special ports? I think there were like a special military um team and it might have been military um team and it might have been military um team and it might have been in the Middle East where they there was in the Middle East where they there was in the Middle East where they there was they they saw like a giant and they were they they saw like a giant and they were they they saw like a giant and they were firing at it and they killed it. But firing at it and they killed it. But firing at it and they killed it. But some of them got some of them got some of them got &gt;&gt; Oh, I did hear about that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, I did hear about that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, I did hear about that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. There's like some stuff and then &gt;&gt; Yeah. There's like some stuff and then &gt;&gt; Yeah. There's like some stuff and then uh uh uh &gt;&gt; Yeah, that was this is all part of like &gt;&gt; Yeah, that was this is all part of like &gt;&gt; Yeah, that was this is all part of like the Foya stuff. So the free the Foya stuff. So the free the Foya stuff. So the free &gt;&gt; and then Gilgamesh was this giant that &gt;&gt; and then Gilgamesh was this giant that &gt;&gt; and then Gilgamesh was this giant that was and the resurrection too was and the resurrection too was and the resurrection too &gt;&gt; cuz I I I was always like yeah the &gt;&gt; cuz I I I was always like yeah the &gt;&gt; cuz I I I was always like yeah the giants was like a cool like legend kind giants was like a cool like legend kind giants was like a cool like legend kind of lore. I'm like oh but I'm starting to of lore. I'm like oh but I'm starting to of lore. I'm like oh but I'm starting to see now people are actually have like see now people are actually have like see now people are actually have like evidence like that they found like evidence like that they found like evidence like that they found like skeletons. skeletons. skeletons. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Look at look at Adam. He's so deep &gt;&gt; Yeah. Look at look at Adam. He's so deep &gt;&gt; Yeah. Look at look at Adam. He's so deep right now. right now. right now. &gt;&gt; It's not even I'm not even trying to go &gt;&gt; It's not even I'm not even trying to go &gt;&gt; It's not even I'm not even trying to go deep, bro. I tried to stay on the other deep, bro. I tried to stay on the other deep, bro. I tried to stay on the other other team for a long time. It's just other team for a long time. It's just other team for a long time. It's just like at one. That's why I'm like like at one. That's why I'm like like at one. That's why I'm like &gt;&gt; there's no turning back. &gt;&gt; there's no turning back. &gt;&gt; there's no turning back. &gt;&gt; How well, how do you how do you not how &gt;&gt; How well, how do you how do you not how &gt;&gt; How well, how do you how do you not how do you not question so many things now? do you not question so many things now? do you not question so many things now? This stuff with Epstein now and the the This stuff with Epstein now and the the This stuff with Epstein now and the the ties that and these emails that they're ties that and these emails that they're ties that and these emails that they're so damning. so damning. so damning. &gt;&gt; That's so crazy. &gt;&gt; That's so crazy. &gt;&gt; That's so crazy. &gt;&gt; It's not even like &gt;&gt; It's not even like &gt;&gt; It's not even like &gt;&gt; Did you see Bill Did you see uh Bill &gt;&gt; Did you see Bill Did you see uh Bill &gt;&gt; Did you see Bill Did you see uh Bill Gates's wife interview? Gates's wife interview? Gates's wife interview? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, I saw it. I saw &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, I saw it. I saw &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, I saw it. I saw &gt;&gt; because one of the emails says that Bill &gt;&gt; because one of the emails says that Bill &gt;&gt; because one of the emails says that Bill Gates got an STD and he was emailing Gates got an STD and he was emailing Gates got an STD and he was emailing Epstein, you know, to get him uh Epstein, you know, to get him uh Epstein, you know, to get him uh antibiotics and then how can I get how antibiotics and then how can I get how antibiotics and then how can I get how can I sneak these into my to my wife so can I sneak these into my to my wife so can I sneak these into my to my wife so she cuz he obviously went home and slept she cuz he obviously went home and slept she cuz he obviously went home and slept with his wife. with his wife. with his wife. &gt;&gt; She and everybody and then he's like &gt;&gt; She and everybody and then he's like &gt;&gt; She and everybody and then he's like it's not a real email. He was emailing it's not a real email. He was emailing it's not a real email. He was emailing himself himself himself &gt;&gt; and he got remember he got divorced. His &gt;&gt; and he got remember he got divorced. His &gt;&gt; and he got remember he got divorced. His wife divorced him. wife divorced him. wife divorced him. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Somebody interviewed him. You can watch &gt;&gt; Somebody interviewed him. You can watch &gt;&gt; Somebody interviewed him. You can watch the interview. the interview. the interview. &gt;&gt; She basically she stepped away from the &gt;&gt; She basically she stepped away from the &gt;&gt; She basically she stepped away from the foundation. She won nothing foundation. She won nothing foundation. She won nothing &gt;&gt; and she's basically like &gt;&gt; and she's basically like &gt;&gt; and she's basically like &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's &gt;&gt; Yeah. That's &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, she didn't say, "Yeah, she &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, she didn't say, "Yeah, she &gt;&gt; Yeah. I mean, she didn't say, "Yeah, she said it's really said it's really said it's really &gt;&gt; not so many words, but she acknowledged &gt;&gt; not so many words, but she acknowledged &gt;&gt; not so many words, but she acknowledged it. Don't watch it." That's a it. Don't watch it." That's a it. Don't watch it." That's a contributing factor. contributing factor. contributing factor. &gt;&gt; Uh, I know it's unbelievably damning the &gt;&gt; Uh, I know it's unbelievably damning the &gt;&gt; Uh, I know it's unbelievably damning the stuff that Peter, I mean, thousand stuff that Peter, I mean, thousand stuff that Peter, I mean, thousand emails. emails. emails. &gt;&gt; You know what's crazy though? Not that &gt;&gt; You know what's crazy though? Not that &gt;&gt; You know what's crazy though? Not that I'm defending the guy cuz he didn't say I'm defending the guy cuz he didn't say I'm defending the guy cuz he didn't say anything that was like really crazy, anything that was like really crazy, anything that was like really crazy, &gt;&gt; but he's getting destroyed. &gt;&gt; but he's getting destroyed. &gt;&gt; but he's getting destroyed. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; We have politicians and stuff on there, &gt;&gt; We have politicians and stuff on there, &gt;&gt; We have politicians and stuff on there, but some of the emails are so dark. I but some of the emails are so dark. I but some of the emails are so dark. I Please don't go look him. And nothing's Please don't go look him. And nothing's Please don't go look him. And nothing's happening. happening. happening. &gt;&gt; So, that's the part that Okay. So they &gt;&gt; So, that's the part that Okay. So they &gt;&gt; So, that's the part that Okay. So they haven't released a lot of the haven't released a lot of the haven't released a lot of the politicians names yet. They that's still politicians names yet. They that's still politicians names yet. They that's still coming. coming. coming. &gt;&gt; Well, some of them like George Bush &gt;&gt; Well, some of them like George Bush &gt;&gt; Well, some of them like George Bush senior and some of that stuff's out senior and some of that stuff's out senior and some of that stuff's out there. So, but he died. there. So, but he died. there. So, but he died. &gt;&gt; And I heard too like, you know, there's &gt;&gt; And I heard too like, you know, there's &gt;&gt; And I heard too like, you know, there's there's some stuff where there's some stuff where there's some stuff where &gt;&gt; disinformation like so there's some &gt;&gt; disinformation like so there's some &gt;&gt; disinformation like so there's some stuff in there that are like, you know, stuff in there that are like, you know, stuff in there that are like, you know, Epstein could just be like talking [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] Epstein could just be like talking [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] Epstein could just be like talking [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] and like he's writing it in there like and like he's writing it in there like and like he's writing it in there like it's not verified. it's not verified. it's not verified. &gt;&gt; But, you know, there's there's also a &gt;&gt; But, you know, there's there's also a &gt;&gt; But, you know, there's there's also a lot of factual information in there that lot of factual information in there that lot of factual information in there that they actually went through and found the they actually went through and found the they actually went through and found the evidence. Like what Adam said, they were evidence. Like what Adam said, they were evidence. Like what Adam said, they were showing the text and it was timestamped showing the text and it was timestamped showing the text and it was timestamped and you can link it up directly to the and you can link it up directly to the and you can link it up directly to the and you can watch the video while the and you can watch the video while the and you can watch the video while the textual stuff. That's why it's like it's textual stuff. That's why it's like it's textual stuff. That's why it's like it's like a whole huge thing you got to kind like a whole huge thing you got to kind like a whole huge thing you got to kind of filter through. So I'm like, of filter through. So I'm like, of filter through. So I'm like, &gt;&gt; you know, some of it might be like not &gt;&gt; you know, some of it might be like not &gt;&gt; you know, some of it might be like not true, but a lot of it, you know, is true, but a lot of it, you know, is true, but a lot of it, you know, is really bad. really bad. really bad. &gt;&gt; That that's that's the part I agree. I &gt;&gt; That that's that's the part I agree. I &gt;&gt; That that's that's the part I agree. I think that there's of they're going to think that there's of they're going to think that there's of they're going to also to have that much stuff out. It's also to have that much stuff out. It's also to have that much stuff out. It's going to be very easy to slide in a few going to be very easy to slide in a few going to be very easy to slide in a few intentional misin misinformation. So intentional misin misinformation. So intentional misin misinformation. So then people go discredits it. So yeah, then people go discredits it. So yeah, then people go discredits it. So yeah, people go, "Oh, this that was made up people go, "Oh, this that was made up people go, "Oh, this that was made up and that was fake. Throw that out." and that was fake. Throw that out." and that was fake. Throw that out." There'll definitely be some fall people There'll definitely be some fall people There'll definitely be some fall people like Peter Tia. It'll be like, "Oh, we like Peter Tia. It'll be like, "Oh, we like Peter Tia. It'll be like, "Oh, we could sacrifice him. He's some medical could sacrifice him. He's some medical could sacrifice him. He's some medical influencer." influencer." influencer." &gt;&gt; That's how I feel about that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; That's how I feel about that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; That's how I feel about that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; You know what I'm saying? But there's &gt;&gt; You know what I'm saying? But there's &gt;&gt; You know what I'm saying? But there's like So what'll be interesting though is like So what'll be interesting though is like So what'll be interesting though is people like him that it ruins their life people like him that it ruins their life people like him that it ruins their life if they come forward and sell out more if they come forward and sell out more if they come forward and sell out more people because eventually I would think people because eventually I would think people because eventually I would think that would start to happen, right? a that would start to happen, right? a that would start to happen, right? a couple of people that were like, "Fuck couple of people that were like, "Fuck couple of people that were like, "Fuck you. You came after Jessie, you. You came after Jessie, you. You came after Jessie, &gt;&gt; Nicki Minaj." &gt;&gt; Nicki Minaj." &gt;&gt; Nicki Minaj." &gt;&gt; Well, well, yeah, people. &gt;&gt; Well, well, yeah, people. &gt;&gt; Well, well, yeah, people. &gt;&gt; She's going scorched earth, dude. &gt;&gt; She's going scorched earth, dude. &gt;&gt; She's going scorched earth, dude. &gt;&gt; She's We saw that coming, &gt;&gt; She's We saw that coming, &gt;&gt; She's We saw that coming, &gt;&gt; but she was gangster. You know what I &gt;&gt; but she was gangster. You know what I &gt;&gt; but she was gangster. You know what I mean? Some people just don't care, mean? Some people just don't care, mean? Some people just don't care, &gt;&gt; which I appreciate. &gt;&gt; which I appreciate. &gt;&gt; which I appreciate. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, I wonder if that's what &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, I wonder if that's what &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, I wonder if that's what they're I was I was watching. they're I was I was watching. they're I was I was watching. &gt;&gt; Aren't they going after um uh our our &gt;&gt; Aren't they going after um uh our our &gt;&gt; Aren't they going after um uh our our guy who was in uh Forest Gump? Uh what's guy who was in uh Forest Gump? Uh what's guy who was in uh Forest Gump? Uh what's his name again? Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. his name again? Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. his name again? Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. They're like going after him. I was I They're like going after him. I was I They're like going after him. I was I was watching a recent interview of of was watching a recent interview of of was watching a recent interview of of Andrew Tate and I thought it was really Andrew Tate and I thought it was really Andrew Tate and I thought it was really interesting something that he was interesting something that he was interesting something that he was talking about and what he said because a talking about and what he said because a talking about and what he said because a lot of people are like calling him this lot of people are like calling him this lot of people are like calling him this sellout and he's talking about uh he's sellout and he's talking about uh he's sellout and he's talking about uh he's obviously defending himself just like obviously defending himself just like obviously defending himself just like I'm not a sellout but these people he's I'm not a sellout but these people he's I'm not a sellout but these people he's like these internet people he goes I like these internet people he goes I like these internet people he goes I they've already checked the boxes with they've already checked the boxes with they've already checked the boxes with me he goes the first thing that they do me he goes the first thing that they do me he goes the first thing that they do with somebody with my as much power and with somebody with my as much power and with somebody with my as much power and influence as I have speaking as him is influence as I have speaking as him is influence as I have speaking as him is they they will jail me for [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] that I they they will jail me for [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] that I they they will jail me for [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] that I didn't do right and they build all that didn't do right and they build all that didn't do right and they build all that and they've done that and I've still and they've done that and I've still and they've done that and I've still beat that and came out. The next step beat that and came out. The next step beat that and came out. The next step &gt;&gt; kill &gt;&gt; kill &gt;&gt; kill &gt;&gt; kill. &gt;&gt; kill. &gt;&gt; kill. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; He goes and so I'm I'm I've already &gt;&gt; He goes and so I'm I'm I've already &gt;&gt; He goes and so I'm I'm I've already pointed you all in the direction I 100% pointed you all in the direction I 100% pointed you all in the direction I 100% have said like he's like but I also know have said like he's like but I also know have said like he's like but I also know that I'm at a place now where they've that I'm at a place now where they've that I'm at a place now where they've already tried the first step which they already tried the first step which they already tried the first step which they don't want obviously they don't want to don't want obviously they don't want to don't want obviously they don't want to have to go murder me because it draws have to go murder me because it draws have to go murder me because it draws way more makes me a martyr way more way more makes me a martyr way more way more makes me a martyr way more attention. He goes attention. He goes attention. He goes &gt;&gt; they can only do that so many times. &gt;&gt; they can only do that so many times. &gt;&gt; they can only do that so many times. &gt;&gt; Exactly. And so he's like, "So they try &gt;&gt; Exactly. And so he's like, "So they try &gt;&gt; Exactly. And so he's like, "So they try to ru ruin my life like this." And he to ru ruin my life like this." And he to ru ruin my life like this." And he goes, "And they still lost." And he goes, "And they still lost." And he goes, "And they still lost." And he goes, "If I keep pushing it, I've goes, "If I keep pushing it, I've goes, "If I keep pushing it, I've already told you. I've already told already told you. I've already told already told you. I've already told everybody everything." And and and like everybody everything." And and and like everybody everything." And and and like and so he's like, "You could tell he's and so he's like, "You could tell he's and so he's like, "You could tell he's deathly afraid of deathly afraid of deathly afraid of &gt;&gt; Can I tell you, not that I would ever be &gt;&gt; Can I tell you, not that I would ever be &gt;&gt; Can I tell you, not that I would ever be a target, but I can I tell you one of a target, but I can I tell you one of a target, but I can I tell you one of the number one reasons why I wouldn't the number one reasons why I wouldn't the number one reasons why I wouldn't buy a fully electric car buy a fully electric car buy a fully electric car &gt;&gt; is that they they've there's been &gt;&gt; is that they they've there's been &gt;&gt; is that they they've there's been they've come out of Yeah. CIA people they've come out of Yeah. CIA people they've come out of Yeah. CIA people have come out and said, "Oh, we could have come out and said, "Oh, we could have come out and said, "Oh, we could &gt;&gt; they back doorored." Uh, you know, so &gt;&gt; they back doorored." Uh, you know, so &gt;&gt; they back doorored." Uh, you know, so they could have access they could have access they could have access &gt;&gt; that we could fully take control of your &gt;&gt; that we could fully take control of your &gt;&gt; that we could fully take control of your car and make it crash fully. So, what an car and make it crash fully. So, what an car and make it crash fully. So, what an easy way to take someone out. Oh, yeah. easy way to take someone out. Oh, yeah. easy way to take someone out. Oh, yeah. You hear what happened. You hear what happened. You hear what happened. &gt;&gt; Now, go through &gt;&gt; Now, go through &gt;&gt; Now, go through &gt;&gt; and take on a car accident. &gt;&gt; and take on a car accident. &gt;&gt; and take on a car accident. &gt;&gt; Dude, now go through and go u So, there &gt;&gt; Dude, now go through and go u So, there &gt;&gt; Dude, now go through and go u So, there was this other crazy thing and I brought was this other crazy thing and I brought was this other crazy thing and I brought this up a while ago about like patents this up a while ago about like patents this up a while ago about like patents and all that, right? And so, if you go and all that, right? And so, if you go and all that, right? And so, if you go through if a machine is over 40% through if a machine is over 40% through if a machine is over 40% efficient, then it has to be given to efficient, then it has to be given to efficient, then it has to be given to the state. Oh, I don't know. the state. Oh, I don't know. the state. Oh, I don't know. &gt;&gt; It's classified. &gt;&gt; It's classified. &gt;&gt; It's classified. &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. What? &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. What? &gt;&gt; Oh, wow. What? &gt;&gt; Explain that. &gt;&gt; Explain that. &gt;&gt; Explain that. &gt;&gt; Because because it's too efficient. &gt;&gt; Because because it's too efficient. &gt;&gt; Because because it's too efficient. &gt;&gt; Too efficient. &gt;&gt; Too efficient. &gt;&gt; Too efficient. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; And so then they take that on as like &gt;&gt; And so then they take that on as like &gt;&gt; And so then they take that on as like classified classified classified uh you know projects that then they end uh you know projects that then they end uh you know projects that then they end up working on and developing. up working on and developing. up working on and developing. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; What? That's so crazy. &gt;&gt; What? That's so crazy. &gt;&gt; What? That's so crazy. &gt;&gt; That was an act like I forget what the &gt;&gt; That was an act like I forget what the &gt;&gt; That was an act like I forget what the act was, but they they put that into act was, but they they put that into act was, but they they put that into Congress. Congress. Congress. &gt;&gt; Here's what you got to do cuz we just &gt;&gt; Here's what you got to do cuz we just &gt;&gt; Here's what you got to do cuz we just scared the crap out of everybody. scared the crap out of everybody. scared the crap out of everybody. &gt;&gt; Just we we were dealing with shitty &gt;&gt; Just we we were dealing with shitty &gt;&gt; Just we we were dealing with shitty stuff, you guys. Like we could be having stuff, you guys. Like we could be having stuff, you guys. Like we could be having such That's what you got. You got to such That's what you got. You got to such That's what you got. You got to focus on your family, pray, exercise. focus on your family, pray, exercise. focus on your family, pray, exercise. &gt;&gt; So, somebody somebody said this in a &gt;&gt; So, somebody somebody said this in a &gt;&gt; So, somebody somebody said this in a situ, situ, situ, bro, I'm feeling bro, I'm feeling bro, I'm feeling &gt;&gt; I'm just like lending it out. &gt;&gt; I'm just like lending it out. &gt;&gt; I'm just like lending it out. &gt;&gt; Hey, you you nailed it. It was so funny. &gt;&gt; Hey, you you nailed it. It was so funny. &gt;&gt; Hey, you you nailed it. It was so funny. You went that way cuz I I actually heard You went that way cuz I I actually heard You went that way cuz I I actually heard a really good uh I wish I remember who a really good uh I wish I remember who a really good uh I wish I remember who it was. It was a great conversation it was. It was a great conversation it was. It was a great conversation around this just how awful, how evil, around this just how awful, how evil, around this just how awful, how evil, how dark, all this stuff. It's like you how dark, all this stuff. It's like you how dark, all this stuff. It's like you control what you you clean your own room control what you you clean your own room control what you you clean your own room like at at this with this place like like at at this with this place like like at at this with this place like getting true getting true getting true &gt;&gt; to get caught up in everything and let &gt;&gt; to get caught up in everything and let &gt;&gt; to get caught up in everything and let it ruin your day and try and make this it ruin your day and try and make this it ruin your day and try and make this like like like &gt;&gt; like build build yourself build your &gt;&gt; like build build yourself build your &gt;&gt; like build build yourself build your relationship with your your family, your relationship with your your family, your relationship with your your family, your neighborh neighborh neighborh like and and that has so much power in like and and that has so much power in like and and that has so much power in itself because if everybody just did itself because if everybody just did itself because if everybody just did that that would be one of the most that that would be one of the most that that would be one of the most influential and powerful things that influential and powerful things that influential and powerful things that would change the world. Exactly. And so would change the world. Exactly. And so would change the world. Exactly. And so that is that is that is &gt;&gt; and you're not you're hard to manipulate &gt;&gt; and you're not you're hard to manipulate &gt;&gt; and you're not you're hard to manipulate because here's the the game the game is because here's the the game the game is because here's the the game the game is to manipulate the masses. This is what to manipulate the masses. This is what to manipulate the masses. This is what it shows. This is this is why they have it shows. This is this is why they have it shows. This is this is why they have so many powerful people in these emails so many powerful people in these emails so many powerful people in these emails is because these people have influence. is because these people have influence. is because these people have influence. And you'll see some of these emails And you'll see some of these emails And you'll see some of these emails where they talk about how you can where they talk about how you can where they talk about how you can manipulate the public. But if you're manipulate the public. But if you're manipulate the public. But if you're focused on your faith, your family, your focused on your faith, your family, your focused on your faith, your family, your health, what is true and what is right, health, what is true and what is right, health, what is true and what is right, you're hard to manipulate. You're much you're hard to manipulate. You're much you're hard to manipulate. You're much harder to manipulate. Yeah, harder to manipulate. Yeah, harder to manipulate. Yeah, &gt;&gt; but if you're floating around &gt;&gt; but if you're floating around &gt;&gt; but if you're floating around &gt;&gt; and your faith is based off of media &gt;&gt; and your faith is based off of media &gt;&gt; and your faith is based off of media &gt;&gt; and the world and what the world offers &gt;&gt; and the world and what the world offers &gt;&gt; and the world and what the world offers you and you don't have kids to take care you and you don't have kids to take care you and you don't have kids to take care of who take you out of being selfish of who take you out of being selfish of who take you out of being selfish because that's what kids are very good because that's what kids are very good because that's what kids are very good at doing. at doing. at doing. &gt;&gt; Um, and you're not focused on loving &gt;&gt; Um, and you're not focused on loving &gt;&gt; Um, and you're not focused on loving other people. Boy, you're like a puppet, other people. Boy, you're like a puppet, other people. Boy, you're like a puppet, man. I could pull you in any direction I man. I could pull you in any direction I man. I could pull you in any direction I want. I can scare you. I can make you want. I can scare you. I can make you want. I can scare you. I can make you want this. I can make you want want this. I can make you want want this. I can make you want &gt;&gt; more. Do you think more or less uh &gt;&gt; more. Do you think more or less uh &gt;&gt; more. Do you think more or less uh people right now are like I I mean this people right now are like I I mean this people right now are like I I mean this is my personal journey on it is like I'm is my personal journey on it is like I'm is my personal journey on it is like I'm so uh I'm not on a side like don't I so uh I'm not on a side like don't I so uh I'm not on a side like don't I feel like there's so many people feel like there's so many people feel like there's so many people &gt;&gt; I'm on a side but it ain't political. &gt;&gt; I'm on a side but it ain't political. &gt;&gt; I'm on a side but it ain't political. &gt;&gt; That's what I mean. That's like I feel &gt;&gt; That's what I mean. That's like I feel &gt;&gt; That's what I mean. That's like I feel like like like &gt;&gt; more and more people I mean I I have a &gt;&gt; more and more people I mean I I have a &gt;&gt; more and more people I mean I I have a thread with my uh a couple of my buddies thread with my uh a couple of my buddies thread with my uh a couple of my buddies and this I have multiple threads. I have and this I have multiple threads. I have and this I have multiple threads. I have like my conservative thread and my like my conservative thread and my like my conservative thread and my liberal thread like liberal thread like liberal thread like &gt;&gt; the same. I like Yeah. totally different &gt;&gt; the same. I like Yeah. totally different &gt;&gt; the same. I like Yeah. totally different groups. groups. groups. &gt;&gt; Yeah. and and uh even my buddies that &gt;&gt; Yeah. and and uh even my buddies that &gt;&gt; Yeah. and and uh even my buddies that are con conservative, which I I tend to are con conservative, which I I tend to are con conservative, which I I tend to have more conservative values is what I have more conservative values is what I have more conservative values is what I would tell somebody. I would not say I'm would tell somebody. I would not say I'm would tell somebody. I would not say I'm conservative at all. I say I have conservative at all. I say I have conservative at all. I say I have conservative values. Uh I'm like, bro, conservative values. Uh I'm like, bro, conservative values. Uh I'm like, bro, you guys need to get off the team. you guys need to get off the team. you guys need to get off the team. Whatever. It's like Whatever. It's like Whatever. It's like &gt;&gt; Yeah. Cuz they get that becomes their &gt;&gt; Yeah. Cuz they get that becomes their &gt;&gt; Yeah. Cuz they get that becomes their religion. Yeah. religion. Yeah. religion. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. They're like, "Oh, I'm so &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. They're like, "Oh, I'm so &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. They're like, "Oh, I'm so I'm like, bro, I'm like, bro, I'm like, bro, &gt;&gt; don't defend any of these. &gt;&gt; don't defend any of these. &gt;&gt; don't defend any of these. &gt;&gt; Do not defend any of these politicians &gt;&gt; Do not defend any of these politicians &gt;&gt; Do not defend any of these politicians right now." I mean, they're like, and right now." I mean, they're like, and right now." I mean, they're like, and there's no way you're in that club, in there's no way you're in that club, in there's no way you're in that club, in my opinion, on either side of the aisle my opinion, on either side of the aisle my opinion, on either side of the aisle and didn't know about all this [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] and didn't know about all this [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] and didn't know about all this [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? &gt;&gt; And and here's the thing, too. This is &gt;&gt; And and here's the thing, too. This is &gt;&gt; And and here's the thing, too. This is just human behavior. Uh power is very just human behavior. Uh power is very just human behavior. Uh power is very alluring. alluring. alluring. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; It's very seductive. Power gets you a &gt;&gt; It's very seductive. Power gets you a &gt;&gt; It's very seductive. Power gets you a lot of the things in the world. So, if lot of the things in the world. So, if lot of the things in the world. So, if you like money, power will get you you like money, power will get you you like money, power will get you money. If you like pleasure, power will money. If you like pleasure, power will money. If you like pleasure, power will get you pleasure. Power gets you food. get you pleasure. Power gets you food. get you pleasure. Power gets you food. Power will get you things. Power will Power will get you things. Power will Power will get you things. Power will get you whatever attention. So, it's get you whatever attention. So, it's get you whatever attention. So, it's very alluring. So it's like, well, who very alluring. So it's like, well, who very alluring. So it's like, well, who do we trust that's in power? The person do we trust that's in power? The person do we trust that's in power? The person who doesn't seek it. The very people who who doesn't seek it. The very people who who doesn't seek it. The very people who fight and make a career out of trying to fight and make a career out of trying to fight and make a career out of trying to gain power, those are the people you gain power, those are the people you gain power, those are the people you don't have. You ain't, you're the wrong don't have. You ain't, you're the wrong don't have. You ain't, you're the wrong person. person. person. &gt;&gt; The person who's not looking for it, who &gt;&gt; The person who's not looking for it, who &gt;&gt; The person who's not looking for it, who kind of gets put in that position like kind of gets put in that position like kind of gets put in that position like we need you, which they don't exist. we need you, which they don't exist. we need you, which they don't exist. &gt;&gt; Well, that's why back to the &gt;&gt; Well, that's why back to the &gt;&gt; Well, that's why back to the &gt;&gt; we don't have any working. You should &gt;&gt; we don't have any working. You should &gt;&gt; we don't have any working. You should work instead of looking out towards work instead of looking out towards work instead of looking out towards these people that are put on pedestals these people that are put on pedestals these people that are put on pedestals that are the famous online that are that are the famous online that are that are the famous online that are politicians. It's like you should work politicians. It's like you should work politicians. It's like you should work from the inside out. Totally that from from the inside out. Totally that from from the inside out. Totally that from your from your circle from you your the your from your circle from you your the your from your circle from you your the neighbor that you have a lot of respect neighbor that you have a lot of respect neighbor that you have a lot of respect with that you have conversations with with that you have conversations with with that you have conversations with that you see day in and day out with his that you see day in and day out with his that you see day in and day out with his family and like you go outward not you family and like you go outward not you family and like you go outward not you don't like reach you from inside out don't like reach you from inside out don't like reach you from inside out versus versus versus &gt;&gt; this person's so famous or this person's &gt;&gt; this person's so famous or this person's &gt;&gt; this person's so famous or this person's the president or this it's like dude I the president or this it's like dude I the president or this it's like dude I don't trust I don't trust no one like don't trust I don't trust no one like don't trust I don't trust no one like that no especially with all this stuff that no especially with all this stuff that no especially with all this stuff coming out right All right, I'm going to coming out right All right, I'm going to coming out right All right, I'm going to change directions cuz I had a wonderful change directions cuz I had a wonderful change directions cuz I had a wonderful uh moment last night with my 16-year-old uh moment last night with my 16-year-old uh moment last night with my 16-year-old daughter. daughter. daughter. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; So, it's, you know, when you have &gt;&gt; So, it's, you know, when you have &gt;&gt; So, it's, you know, when you have teenage kids, uh I don't care how cool teenage kids, uh I don't care how cool teenage kids, uh I don't care how cool you think you are or what you do, you're you think you are or what you do, you're you think you are or what you do, you're just not cool. You just no matter what, just not cool. You just no matter what, just not cool. You just no matter what, right? You just aren't you're just right? You just aren't you're just right? You just aren't you're just you're always dad, you're always mom, you're always dad, you're always mom, you're always dad, you're always mom, whatever. whatever. whatever. &gt;&gt; But last night, I had a I'm cool moment. &gt;&gt; But last night, I had a I'm cool moment. &gt;&gt; But last night, I had a I'm cool moment. &gt;&gt; So, I come home and we had interviewed &gt;&gt; So, I come home and we had interviewed &gt;&gt; So, I come home and we had interviewed Nick Hexum, the lead singer from 311. Nick Hexum, the lead singer from 311. Nick Hexum, the lead singer from 311. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my daughter loves uh &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my daughter loves uh &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my daughter loves uh she loves music from the '9s. She loves she loves music from the '9s. She loves she loves music from the '9s. She loves like all kinds of different she's like like all kinds of different she's like like all kinds of different she's like really into music. So I come home and I really into music. So I come home and I really into music. So I come home and I already knew and I said, "Hey, do you already knew and I said, "Hey, do you already knew and I said, "Hey, do you like uh do you like 311?" She's like, like uh do you like 311?" She's like, like uh do you like 311?" She's like, "Oh yeah, I love them." So we're like "Oh yeah, I love them." So we're like "Oh yeah, I love them." So we're like playing songs like oh my favorite song. playing songs like oh my favorite song. playing songs like oh my favorite song. Oh my god, that one was so I never heard Oh my god, that one was so I never heard Oh my god, that one was so I never heard that one. I'm like, "Hey, look who I that one. I'm like, "Hey, look who I that one. I'm like, "Hey, look who I interviewed today." What? You know him? interviewed today." What? You know him? interviewed today." What? You know him? What did he say? What did he say? What did he say? &gt;&gt; Street cred. &gt;&gt; Street cred. &gt;&gt; Street cred. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. So right away I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. So right away I &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. So right away I was like for a second, you know, didn't was like for a second, you know, didn't was like for a second, you know, didn't last very long, but I'm so cool. I had last very long, but I'm so cool. I had last very long, but I'm so cool. I had &gt;&gt; I had a great I had an opposite uh dad &gt;&gt; I had a great I had an opposite uh dad &gt;&gt; I had a great I had an opposite uh dad like that was like a happy dad. I had like that was like a happy dad. I had like that was like a happy dad. I had like a I had one of my first like really like a I had one of my first like really like a I had one of my first like really angry I guess it was angry, sad, hurt. I angry I guess it was angry, sad, hurt. I angry I guess it was angry, sad, hurt. I felt all at the same time. Uh I found felt all at the same time. Uh I found felt all at the same time. Uh I found out from Katrina cuz he didn't even say out from Katrina cuz he didn't even say out from Katrina cuz he didn't even say anything to me. She came over and told anything to me. She came over and told anything to me. She came over and told me that uh some kid like kind of bullied me that uh some kid like kind of bullied me that uh some kid like kind of bullied Max yesterday. Max yesterday. Max yesterday. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; Oh. &gt;&gt; At school. Yeah. And called him a loser. &gt;&gt; At school. Yeah. And called him a loser. &gt;&gt; At school. Yeah. And called him a loser. And Yeah. I know. So he called him a And Yeah. I know. So he called him a And Yeah. I know. So he called him a loser and his he had a stinky shirt, loser and his he had a stinky shirt, loser and his he had a stinky shirt, right? And so he tells he tells Katrina right? And so he tells he tells Katrina right? And so he tells he tells Katrina this. Now I know who the kid is and I this. Now I know who the kid is and I this. Now I know who the kid is and I know that this happens to be like the know that this happens to be like the know that this happens to be like the troubled kid at school. Always getting troubled kid at school. Always getting troubled kid at school. Always getting Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; And he told Katrina. He goes uh Katrina &gt;&gt; And he told Katrina. He goes uh Katrina &gt;&gt; And he told Katrina. He goes uh Katrina goes, "Well, how did you feel?" She goes, "Well, how did you feel?" She goes, "Well, how did you feel?" She goes, goes, goes, &gt;&gt; he goes, "I really uh it made me very &gt;&gt; he goes, "I really uh it made me very &gt;&gt; he goes, "I really uh it made me very sad and I wanted to cry, but I I I I sad and I wanted to cry, but I I I I sad and I wanted to cry, but I I I I fought back from crying, so I didn't fought back from crying, so I didn't fought back from crying, so I didn't cry, but I felt like I wanted to cry cry, but I felt like I wanted to cry cry, but I felt like I wanted to cry because he made me sad." and hearing her because he made me sad." and hearing her because he made me sad." and hearing her tell me that the story of that like you tell me that the story of that like you tell me that the story of that like you know the the dad in you gets enraged. I know the the dad in you gets enraged. I know the the dad in you gets enraged. I mean this is like a little six-year-old mean this is like a little six-year-old mean this is like a little six-year-old kid like kid like kid like &gt;&gt; you want to go spank &gt;&gt; you want to go spank &gt;&gt; you want to go spank you in a garbage can. you in a garbage can. you in a garbage can. &gt;&gt; Absolutely. &gt;&gt; Absolutely. &gt;&gt; Absolutely. &gt;&gt; Beat up his dad &gt;&gt; Beat up his dad &gt;&gt; Beat up his dad I pulled him in and reminded him. I said I pulled him in and reminded him. I said I pulled him in and reminded him. I said I reminded him what I tell him. I said I reminded him what I tell him. I said I reminded him what I tell him. I said you remember what daddy tells you about you remember what daddy tells you about you remember what daddy tells you about those kids, right? those kids, right? those kids, right? &gt;&gt; And he goes, "Yeah, but dad, are you &gt;&gt; And he goes, "Yeah, but dad, are you &gt;&gt; And he goes, "Yeah, but dad, are you sure?" And I said, "Are you sure his sure?" And I said, "Are you sure his sure?" And I said, "Are you sure his parents don't love him?" I said, "That's parents don't love him?" I said, "That's parents don't love him?" I said, "That's right." Oh no. right." Oh no. right." Oh no. &gt;&gt; I said, "Son, when when kids when kids &gt;&gt; I said, "Son, when when kids when kids &gt;&gt; I said, "Son, when when kids when kids are like that, I I want him to. I want are like that, I I want him to. I want are like that, I I want him to. I want him to." AND THEN AND THEN I want the him to." AND THEN AND THEN I want the him to." AND THEN AND THEN I want the teacher. Your mom and dad don't love teacher. Your mom and dad don't love teacher. Your mom and dad don't love you. you. you. &gt;&gt; And I said, "Listen, that's why maybe &gt;&gt; And I said, "Listen, that's why maybe &gt;&gt; And I said, "Listen, that's why maybe you should love your son more." And so you should love your son more." And so you should love your son more." And so he's not like that. I said, "So bring it he's not like that. I said, "So bring it he's not like that. I said, "So bring it on. I hope that he says that. I've on. I hope that he says that. I've on. I hope that he says that. I've gerled." &gt;&gt; But is he is he a little overweight? &gt;&gt; But is he is he a little overweight? Yeah, he's got Okay. Make sure you tell Yeah, he's got Okay. Make sure you tell Yeah, he's got Okay. Make sure you tell me he's fat. me he's fat. me he's fat. &gt;&gt; Does he wear glasses? Okay. Make sure. &gt;&gt; Does he wear glasses? Okay. Make sure. &gt;&gt; Does he wear glasses? Okay. Make sure. &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, I want I want and I want but I &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, I want I want and I want but I &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, I want I want and I want but I also want him to have compassion about I also want him to have compassion about I also want him to have compassion about I said, "Listen, don't don't don't let it said, "Listen, don't don't don't let it said, "Listen, don't don't don't let it hurt your feelings." I said, "Because hurt your feelings." I said, "Because hurt your feelings." I said, "Because you know what? At home, he's probably you know what? At home, he's probably you know what? At home, he's probably really sad. really sad. really sad. &gt;&gt; He doesn't have as good of a mommy and &gt;&gt; He doesn't have as good of a mommy and &gt;&gt; He doesn't have as good of a mommy and daddy as you do. There's not a love daddy as you do. There's not a love daddy as you do. There's not a love there's not a lot of there's not a lot there's not a lot of there's not a lot there's not a lot of there's not a lot of love in the" And he's like, "Are you of love in the" And he's like, "Are you of love in the" And he's like, "Are you sure?" I see his mom. I said, but I sure?" I see his mom. I said, but I sure?" I see his mom. I said, but I said, "Well, you know, she might be all said, "Well, you know, she might be all said, "Well, you know, she might be all right, but trust me, if he's like that, right, but trust me, if he's like that, right, but trust me, if he's like that, &gt;&gt; he's hurting some." And so I let Yeah. &gt;&gt; he's hurting some." And so I let Yeah. &gt;&gt; he's hurting some." And so I let Yeah. Yeah. So I'm waiting for the time that Yeah. So I'm waiting for the time that Yeah. So I'm waiting for the time that he's I said, "You just So this time I he's I said, "You just So this time I he's I said, "You just So this time I like drilled it home." Like that's what like drilled it home." Like that's what like drilled it home." Like that's what you say to kids. It's hard when somebody you say to kids. It's hard when somebody you say to kids. It's hard when somebody kid hurts your kids because you know kid hurts your kids because you know kid hurts your kids because you know what it feels like as a kid. what it feels like as a kid. what it feels like as a kid. &gt;&gt; That sucks. I think all of us went &gt;&gt; That sucks. I think all of us went &gt;&gt; That sucks. I think all of us went through that at one. Every kid does. through that at one. Every kid does. through that at one. Every kid does. &gt;&gt; But I really want him to make that &gt;&gt; But I really want him to make that &gt;&gt; But I really want him to make that connection cuz I think if he understands connection cuz I think if he understands connection cuz I think if he understands that these bullies and these kids that that these bullies and these kids that that these bullies and these kids that are like that are hurting inside and are like that are hurting inside and are like that are hurting inside and that's what caught they want they're that's what caught they want they're that's what caught they want they're they're hurting. They have pain inside. they're hurting. They have pain inside. they're hurting. They have pain inside. That's why I told him they have pain That's why I told him they have pain That's why I told him they have pain inside because something maybe their inside because something maybe their inside because something maybe their mommy and daddy fight a lot. Maybe they mommy and daddy fight a lot. Maybe they mommy and daddy fight a lot. Maybe they don't give them a lot of attention. don't give them a lot of attention. don't give them a lot of attention. Maybe they don't have a lot of nice Maybe they don't have a lot of nice Maybe they don't have a lot of nice things like you do. You get to do a lot things like you do. You get to do a lot things like you do. You get to do a lot of cool things. you have lot your mommy of cool things. you have lot your mommy of cool things. you have lot your mommy and daddy have a lot of love and when a and daddy have a lot of love and when a and daddy have a lot of love and when a kid doesn't get that they tend to act kid doesn't get that they tend to act kid doesn't get that they tend to act out and they be they're mean to other out and they be they're mean to other out and they be they're mean to other kids and so when a kid you hear a kid kids and so when a kid you hear a kid kids and so when a kid you hear a kid say something like that that you know is say something like that that you know is say something like that that you know is not true and he says that to you I said not true and he says that to you I said not true and he says that to you I said you know don't don't be sad in fact you you know don't don't be sad in fact you you know don't don't be sad in fact you should feel sorry for him and you let should feel sorry for him and you let should feel sorry for him and you let them know you just say man I'm so sorry them know you just say man I'm so sorry them know you just say man I'm so sorry my dad told me that kids that are mean my dad told me that kids that are mean my dad told me that kids that are mean like you probably aren't loved so tell like you probably aren't loved so tell like you probably aren't loved so tell you tell that you tell that six-year-old you tell that you tell that six-year-old you tell that you tell that six-year-old &gt;&gt; that's horrible &gt;&gt; that's horrible &gt;&gt; that's horrible &gt;&gt; I know that's right psychological levels &gt;&gt; I know that's right psychological levels &gt;&gt; I know that's right psychological levels and and then let your mom and dad come and and then let your mom and dad come and and then let your mom and dad come talk to me and then we'll have a talk talk to me and then we'll have a talk talk to me and then we'll have a talk and so or the teacher for that matter if and so or the teacher for that matter if and so or the teacher for that matter if she thinks that's inappropriate I'll she thinks that's inappropriate I'll she thinks that's inappropriate I'll I'll definitely defend that cuz you know I'll definitely defend that cuz you know I'll definitely defend that cuz you know damn well it's what it is you know that damn well it's what it is you know that damn well it's what it is you know that kid is like fighting for attention kid is like fighting for attention kid is like fighting for attention because whatever whatever reason I don't because whatever whatever reason I don't because whatever whatever reason I don't know the mom and dad know the mom and dad know the mom and dad &gt;&gt; well yeah I mean that whole thing it's &gt;&gt; well yeah I mean that whole thing it's &gt;&gt; well yeah I mean that whole thing it's so tough cuz like too like if your kid's so tough cuz like too like if your kid's so tough cuz like too like if your kid's defending himself as well and I got in defending himself as well and I got in defending himself as well and I got in that predicament you know and I had to that predicament you know and I had to that predicament you know and I had to like uh face the principal and like like uh face the principal and like like uh face the principal and like potential teach like the other parents potential teach like the other parents potential teach like the other parents and and whatnot, but like like and and whatnot, but like like and and whatnot, but like like especially when it's justified, it's especially when it's justified, it's especially when it's justified, it's like your kid like your kid like your kid &gt;&gt; uh decided to try and strangle my kid &gt;&gt; uh decided to try and strangle my kid &gt;&gt; uh decided to try and strangle my kid with the the rope from the tether ball with the the rope from the tether ball with the the rope from the tether ball and he socked him in the stomach and and he socked him in the stomach and and he socked him in the stomach and make him cry all, you know, the whole make him cry all, you know, the whole make him cry all, you know, the whole rest of the day. rest of the day. rest of the day. &gt;&gt; Sorry. You know, like consequences, but &gt;&gt; Sorry. You know, like consequences, but &gt;&gt; Sorry. You know, like consequences, but it again, you don't want to like resort it again, you don't want to like resort it again, you don't want to like resort to violence and you're like, "Yeah, I to violence and you're like, "Yeah, I to violence and you're like, "Yeah, I get all this stuff." get all this stuff." get all this stuff." &gt;&gt; I told you guys about that one time. I &gt;&gt; I told you guys about that one time. I &gt;&gt; I told you guys about that one time. I had a client, this uh kid that I had a client, this uh kid that I had a client, this uh kid that I trained. He was young. He was I think he trained. He was young. He was I think he trained. He was young. He was I think he was like 14, 13. And um his mom told me, was like 14, 13. And um his mom told me, was like 14, 13. And um his mom told me, "Oh, he gets bullied sometimes, but "Oh, he gets bullied sometimes, but "Oh, he gets bullied sometimes, but whatever." Anyway, I build this whatever." Anyway, I build this whatever." Anyway, I build this relationship with this kid and he tells relationship with this kid and he tells relationship with this kid and he tells me me me &gt;&gt; these this kid follows him home from &gt;&gt; these this kid follows him home from &gt;&gt; these this kid follows him home from school and taunts him the whole time and school and taunts him the whole time and school and taunts him the whole time and says terrible things to him the whole says terrible things to him the whole says terrible things to him the whole time. time. time. &gt;&gt; And I'm like, and I'm, you know, I'm, &gt;&gt; And I'm like, and I'm, you know, I'm, &gt;&gt; And I'm like, and I'm, you know, I'm, you know, I like this kid. He's my you know, I like this kid. He's my you know, I like this kid. He's my client, you know. So inside I'm like client, you know. So inside I'm like client, you know. So inside I'm like boiling, you know, and I'm like, "Well, boiling, you know, and I'm like, "Well, boiling, you know, and I'm like, "Well, what what does your mom tell you to do?" what what does your mom tell you to do?" what what does your mom tell you to do?" Because I don't want to say anything Because I don't want to say anything Because I don't want to say anything opposite. opposite. opposite. &gt;&gt; My mom says, "I ignore him." You know, &gt;&gt; My mom says, "I ignore him." You know, &gt;&gt; My mom says, "I ignore him." You know, my mom says just to just, you know, he's my mom says just to just, you know, he's my mom says just to just, you know, he's probably, you know, you know, hurt and probably, you know, you know, hurt and probably, you know, you know, hurt and just ignore him. And I'm like, "And he's just ignore him. And I'm like, "And he's just ignore him. And I'm like, "And he's still doing it." He's like, "Yeah, he's still doing it." He's like, "Yeah, he's still doing it." He's like, "Yeah, he's following me." So anyway, I got fed up. following me." So anyway, I got fed up. following me." So anyway, I got fed up. I kept hearing this. And I was like, I kept hearing this. And I was like, I kept hearing this. And I was like, "Oh." So I told him one day, it's "Oh." So I told him one day, it's "Oh." So I told him one day, it's terrible advice. Said, "Next time he terrible advice. Said, "Next time he terrible advice. Said, "Next time he follows you." Said, "Do you want him follows you." Said, "Do you want him follows you." Said, "Do you want him stop?" He's like, "I said," turn around. stop?" He's like, "I said," turn around. stop?" He's like, "I said," turn around. And I told him exactly what I do. I And I told him exactly what I do. I And I told him exactly what I do. I said, "Punch him straight in the nose." said, "Punch him straight in the nose." said, "Punch him straight in the nose." &gt;&gt; I said, "Aim for his nose cuz then he &gt;&gt; I said, "Aim for his nose cuz then he &gt;&gt; I said, "Aim for his nose cuz then he can't see. He's going to blur it." And I can't see. He's going to blur it." And I can't see. He's going to blur it." And I said, "And then keep hitting him until said, "And then keep hitting him until said, "And then keep hitting him until someone pulls you off." someone pulls you off." someone pulls you off." &gt;&gt; You cry. &gt;&gt; You cry. &gt;&gt; You cry. &gt;&gt; I was so mad because listen, I'm not &gt;&gt; I was so mad because listen, I'm not &gt;&gt; I was so mad because listen, I'm not even going to say what this kid was even going to say what this kid was even going to say what this kid was saying to him. saying to him. saying to him. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; This kid was saying terrible and pulling &gt;&gt; This kid was saying terrible and pulling &gt;&gt; This kid was saying terrible and pulling on his backpack. Like I can I've seen on his backpack. Like I can I've seen on his backpack. Like I can I've seen this before. this before. this before. &gt;&gt; Well, he did it, dude. He hit the kid &gt;&gt; Well, he did it, dude. He hit the kid &gt;&gt; Well, he did it, dude. He hit the kid and he beat him up and and he beat him up and and he beat him up and &gt;&gt; better never mess with him again. &gt;&gt; better never mess with him again. &gt;&gt; better never mess with him again. &gt;&gt; No, he never mess with him again. And &gt;&gt; No, he never mess with him again. And &gt;&gt; No, he never mess with him again. And he's like, you know, I'm like, he's like, you know, I'm like, he's like, you know, I'm like, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; yeah, &gt;&gt; when he came and told me I'm like, "Did &gt;&gt; when he came and told me I'm like, "Did &gt;&gt; when he came and told me I'm like, "Did you get in trouble?" He's like, "Yeah, I you get in trouble?" He's like, "Yeah, I you get in trouble?" He's like, "Yeah, I got suspended." And in my head, I'm got suspended." And in my head, I'm got suspended." And in my head, I'm like, like, like, &gt;&gt; "You act differently when they know you &gt;&gt; "You act differently when they know you &gt;&gt; "You act differently when they know you have claws." have claws." have claws." &gt;&gt; I'm like, "Did you tell your mom that I &gt;&gt; I'm like, "Did you tell your mom that I &gt;&gt; I'm like, "Did you tell your mom that I told you?" told you?" told you?" &gt;&gt; I I definitely want him to connect the &gt;&gt; I I definitely want him to connect the &gt;&gt; I I definitely want him to connect the dots that those kids are hurting inside dots that those kids are hurting inside dots that those kids are hurting inside and that's the reason why they do it. and that's the reason why they do it. and that's the reason why they do it. And I think if I can build his And I think if I can build his And I think if I can build his confidence around that it's not about confidence around that it's not about confidence around that it's not about him that they're saying these things, him that they're saying these things, him that they're saying these things, it's them, I hope that that will be able it's them, I hope that that will be able it's them, I hope that that will be able to squash it. Now there's once it gets to squash it. Now there's once it gets to squash it. Now there's once it gets physical it's a different that's physical it's a different that's physical it's a different that's different coaching to like you put your different coaching to like you put your different coaching to like you put your hands on my son. Oh you got to finish. hands on my son. Oh you got to finish. hands on my son. Oh you got to finish. That's right. Yeah. You put your you put That's right. Yeah. You put your you put That's right. Yeah. You put your you put hand like my son will be taught you hand like my son will be taught you hand like my son will be taught you don't do that you don't do that and like don't do that you don't do that and like don't do that you don't do that and like but if he's got he put someone puts a but if he's got he put someone puts a but if he's got he put someone puts a rope around my kid swing but you rope around my kid swing but you rope around my kid swing but you absolutely [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] absolutely [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] absolutely [&nbsp;__&nbsp;] I'm like hey you know I'm like hey you know I'm like hey you know &gt;&gt; he did that. &gt;&gt; he did that. &gt;&gt; he did that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. But I I I think if if he can &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. But I I I think if if he can &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. But I I I think if if he can handle if he can control his emotions handle if he can control his emotions handle if he can control his emotions and when a kid is being mean like and when a kid is being mean like and when a kid is being mean like especially during these these grade especially during these these grade especially during these these grade levels when these kids aren't really levels when these kids aren't really levels when these kids aren't really these kids are just mean. They're just these kids are just mean. They're just these kids are just mean. They're just mean little kids and they say mean mean little kids and they say mean mean little kids and they say mean things. I remember if he lets them know things. I remember if he lets them know things. I remember if he lets them know that it's cuz his parents don't love that it's cuz his parents don't love that it's cuz his parents don't love him. I'm pretty sure that'll handle it. him. I'm pretty sure that'll handle it. him. I'm pretty sure that'll handle it. That should handle it probably up to That should handle it probably up to That should handle it probably up to about sixth grade or so. You know what about sixth grade or so. You know what about sixth grade or so. You know what I'm saying? So sixth grade sixth grade I'm saying? So sixth grade sixth grade I'm saying? So sixth grade sixth grade kids start to get a little more physical kids start to get a little more physical kids start to get a little more physical and stuff like that. Then we can talk. and stuff like that. Then we can talk. and stuff like that. Then we can talk. But for right now he can just remind him But for right now he can just remind him But for right now he can just remind him that his parents don't love him and that his parents don't love him and that his parents don't love him and that's why he's like that. that's why he's like that. that's why he's like that. &gt;&gt; I got to ask you just change change the &gt;&gt; I got to ask you just change change the &gt;&gt; I got to ask you just change change the topic. Uh, you've been really I know topic. Uh, you've been really I know topic. Uh, you've been really I know you're you're back to working out. you're you're back to working out. you're you're back to working out. You're being consistent, obviously You're being consistent, obviously You're being consistent, obviously putting on muscle. How how you've been putting on muscle. How how you've been putting on muscle. How how you've been consistently taking lots of supple consistently taking lots of supple consistently taking lots of supple supplements, but the one I see you supplements, but the one I see you supplements, but the one I see you routinely taking routinely taking routinely taking &gt;&gt; throughout the day are the essential &gt;&gt; throughout the day are the essential &gt;&gt; throughout the day are the essential amino acids from K. amino acids from K. amino acids from K. &gt;&gt; Did you see I did a post? No. &gt;&gt; Did you see I did a post? No. &gt;&gt; Did you see I did a post? No. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. I did a post the other day &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. I did a post the other day &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. I did a post the other day about I mean, you know how I am, right? about I mean, you know how I am, right? about I mean, you know how I am, right? Like Like Like &gt;&gt; I tease you a lot cuz you're like, you &gt;&gt; I tease you a lot cuz you're like, you &gt;&gt; I tease you a lot cuz you're like, you feel it right away and I'm always like, feel it right away and I'm always like, feel it right away and I'm always like, &gt;&gt; "Yeah, but you don't take something &gt;&gt; "Yeah, but you don't take something &gt;&gt; "Yeah, but you don't take something consistently unless you notice." consistently unless you notice." consistently unless you notice." &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and I also I also I also like &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and I also I also I also like &gt;&gt; Yeah. And and I also I also I also like to to tease out things and I like to see to to tease out things and I like to see to to tease out things and I like to see so I've now this is four times now where so I've now this is four times now where so I've now this is four times now where I've uh built cut built cut and and I I've uh built cut built cut and and I I've uh built cut built cut and and I and I've consistently use those and I've consistently use those and I've consistently use those &gt;&gt; and so obviously &gt;&gt; and so obviously &gt;&gt; and so obviously &gt;&gt; what's the difference? &gt;&gt; what's the difference? &gt;&gt; what's the difference? &gt;&gt; I I hang on to muscle way better. Way &gt;&gt; I I hang on to muscle way better. Way &gt;&gt; I I hang on to muscle way better. Way better. Yeah. It's like uh and that and better. Yeah. It's like uh and that and better. Yeah. It's like uh and that and that's a and and so maybe you're that's a and and so maybe you're that's a and and so maybe you're somebody who does that's not a big deal somebody who does that's not a big deal somebody who does that's not a big deal to you. Like for me, I've shared before, to you. Like for me, I've shared before, to you. Like for me, I've shared before, we were just talking to somebody we were just talking to somebody we were just talking to somebody recently, I think on on a call, live recently, I think on on a call, live recently, I think on on a call, live caller or something that I'm the type of caller or something that I'm the type of caller or something that I'm the type of person that as soon as I reduce person that as soon as I reduce person that as soon as I reduce calories, man, if I if if my protein calories, man, if I if if my protein calories, man, if I if if my protein intake isn't super optimal or high, I intake isn't super optimal or high, I intake isn't super optimal or high, I like my body, and I have the tracking of like my body, and I have the tracking of like my body, and I have the tracking of this, too. This is not me just like, oh, this, too. This is not me just like, oh, this, too. This is not me just like, oh, I think I lost muscle. This is me on a I think I lost muscle. This is me on a I think I lost muscle. This is me on a DEXA scan. I I lose muscle pretty quick, DEXA scan. I I lose muscle pretty quick, DEXA scan. I I lose muscle pretty quick, &gt;&gt; uh, if not being fed. I noticed that it &gt;&gt; uh, if not being fed. I noticed that it &gt;&gt; uh, if not being fed. I noticed that it it I definitely hold on to more of it by it I definitely hold on to more of it by it I definitely hold on to more of it by taking that. It helps tremendously. taking that. It helps tremendously. taking that. It helps tremendously. &gt;&gt; And you're doing I see you take what &gt;&gt; And you're doing I see you take what &gt;&gt; And you're doing I see you take what five capsules come. five capsules come. five capsules come. &gt;&gt; No, it's it's six. It's six to seven. &gt;&gt; No, it's it's six. It's six to seven. &gt;&gt; No, it's it's six. It's six to seven. Two, three times a day. Two, three times a day. Two, three times a day. &gt;&gt; Three times a day. &gt;&gt; Three times a day. &gt;&gt; Three times a day. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And what I what I'll do &gt;&gt; Yeah. And what I what I'll do &gt;&gt; Yeah. And what I what I'll do &gt;&gt; such a simple inexpensive supplement &gt;&gt; such a simple inexpensive supplement &gt;&gt; such a simple inexpensive supplement that I over that I totally that I over that I totally that I over that I totally underestimated until we had uh them on underestimated until we had uh them on underestimated until we had uh them on the show and then I've used them. I know the show and then I've used them. I know the show and then I've used them. I know you've used them. you've used them. you've used them. &gt;&gt; I wonder too because you're um you have &gt;&gt; I wonder too because you're um you have &gt;&gt; I wonder too because you're um you have more of a body type like me. I I wonder more of a body type like me. I I wonder more of a body type like me. I I wonder if like certain people will will notice if like certain people will will notice if like certain people will will notice a big difference versus other people. a big difference versus other people. a big difference versus other people. Like I know the studies were I know he Like I know the studies were I know he Like I know the studies were I know he blew all our minds like that but I blew all our minds like that but I blew all our minds like that but I wonder because there has to be this like wonder because there has to be this like wonder because there has to be this like individual variance of why individual variance of why individual variance of why &gt;&gt; I think so. But I mean losing muscle in &gt;&gt; I think so. But I mean losing muscle in &gt;&gt; I think so. But I mean losing muscle in a calorie deficit is the norm. a calorie deficit is the norm. a calorie deficit is the norm. &gt;&gt; It's just hard. &gt;&gt; It's just hard. &gt;&gt; It's just hard. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; You just it's just the difference is &gt;&gt; You just it's just the difference is &gt;&gt; You just it's just the difference is honestly like this guys like either you honestly like this guys like either you honestly like this guys like either you lose a lot of muscle or you use a lose a lose a lot of muscle or you use a lose a lose a lot of muscle or you use a lose a little bit of muscle is typically what little bit of muscle is typically what little bit of muscle is typically what it looks like. not losing any muscle in it looks like. not losing any muscle in it looks like. not losing any muscle in a deficit is like wow. Um and the and a deficit is like wow. Um and the and a deficit is like wow. Um and the and and the essential amino acids make that and the essential amino acids make that and the essential amino acids make that difference. difference. difference. &gt;&gt; Well, that my last so I can't I dexis &gt;&gt; Well, that my last so I can't I dexis &gt;&gt; Well, that my last so I can't I dexis scan again this coming up coming up scan again this coming up coming up scan again this coming up coming up Monday. Uh which I I think this is about Monday. Uh which I I think this is about Monday. Uh which I I think this is about when this podcast so I'll be have have when this podcast so I'll be have have when this podcast so I'll be have have been getting it done. Um the last one I been getting it done. Um the last one I been getting it done. Um the last one I did was I did a bunch two years ago when did was I did a bunch two years ago when did was I did a bunch two years ago when I was doing that transformation thing I was doing that transformation thing I was doing that transformation thing and it that was the first time it kind and it that was the first time it kind and it that was the first time it kind of blew my mind because again I've been of blew my mind because again I've been of blew my mind because again I've been in cuts. I've done all this stuff so in cuts. I've done all this stuff so in cuts. I've done all this stuff so many times. I've tracked with all the many times. I've tracked with all the many times. I've tracked with all the data and everything like that and it's data and everything like that and it's data and everything like that and it's pretty normal. You I go in a cut and I'm pretty normal. You I go in a cut and I'm pretty normal. You I go in a cut and I'm going to I'm going to lose some lean going to I'm going to lose some lean going to I'm going to lose some lean body mass, body mass, body mass, &gt;&gt; but I actually I I gained like I held on &gt;&gt; but I actually I I gained like I held on &gt;&gt; but I actually I I gained like I held on and gained and gained and gained &gt;&gt; and yeah, so I literally went down I &gt;&gt; and yeah, so I literally went down I &gt;&gt; and yeah, so I literally went down I think I'll I'll look back at the exact think I'll I'll look back at the exact think I'll I'll look back at the exact numbers. I was looking back on them just numbers. I was looking back on them just numbers. I was looking back on them just the other day just to kind of check to the other day just to kind of check to the other day just to kind of check to see what it was. see what it was. see what it was. &gt;&gt; But I want to say I went down like 3 or &gt;&gt; But I want to say I went down like 3 or &gt;&gt; But I want to say I went down like 3 or 4% body fat 4% body fat 4% body fat &gt;&gt; and actually gained lean body mass and I &gt;&gt; and actually gained lean body mass and I &gt;&gt; and actually gained lean body mass and I was like in a calorie deficit. So to be was like in a calorie deficit. So to be was like in a calorie deficit. So to be in a calorie deficit most of the time in a calorie deficit most of the time in a calorie deficit most of the time and to see that was like whoa. Like and to see that was like whoa. Like and to see that was like whoa. Like &gt;&gt; so I'm I'm I'm totally sold on it. I can &gt;&gt; so I'm I'm I'm totally sold on it. I can &gt;&gt; so I'm I'm I'm totally sold on it. I can again I've been doing this for long again I've been doing this for long again I've been doing this for long enough to to feel and see a difference enough to to feel and see a difference enough to to feel and see a difference uh in my body and yeah ever since uh you uh in my body and yeah ever since uh you uh in my body and yeah ever since uh you know Angelo came on and kind of know Angelo came on and kind of know Angelo came on and kind of dispelled a lot of things that I thought dispelled a lot of things that I thought dispelled a lot of things that I thought to be true around EAAS. And so I since to be true around EAAS. And so I since to be true around EAAS. And so I since you brought them up though I do want to you brought them up though I do want to you brought them up though I do want to ask you because I can't reme I don't ask you because I can't reme I don't ask you because I can't reme I don't remember recall remember recall remember recall uh in a calorie. So, put me in a calorie uh in a calorie. So, put me in a calorie uh in a calorie. So, put me in a calorie surplus. Put me in calorie deficit. Is surplus. Put me in calorie deficit. Is surplus. Put me in calorie deficit. Is it more beneficial for me to go in it more beneficial for me to go in it more beneficial for me to go in between meals or to protein spike a meal between meals or to protein spike a meal between meals or to protein spike a meal already? already? already? &gt;&gt; Probably in between. &gt;&gt; Probably in between. &gt;&gt; Probably in between. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Probably in between. &gt;&gt; Probably in between. &gt;&gt; Probably in between. &gt;&gt; Now, is that different based off the cut &gt;&gt; Now, is that different based off the cut &gt;&gt; Now, is that different based off the cut and the on the B. So, no matter what, and the on the B. So, no matter what, and the on the B. So, no matter what, &gt;&gt; it's probably better to be in between. &gt;&gt; it's probably better to be in between. &gt;&gt; it's probably better to be in between. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; But the data will show it probably &gt;&gt; But the data will show it probably &gt;&gt; But the data will show it probably doesn't make a difference. So, if I had doesn't make a difference. So, if I had doesn't make a difference. So, if I had to pick one, be in between. to pick one, be in between. to pick one, be in between. &gt;&gt; So, I what I've done is I've done in &gt;&gt; So, I what I've done is I've done in &gt;&gt; So, I what I've done is I've done in between unless it's like a low a low between unless it's like a low a low between unless it's like a low a low protein protein protein &gt;&gt; and you throw out the meal. Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; and you throw out the meal. Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; and you throw out the meal. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. So that's kind of how Perfect. So that's kind of how Perfect. So that's kind of how &gt;&gt; So the way I used to use essential amino &gt;&gt; So the way I used to use essential amino &gt;&gt; So the way I used to use essential amino acids back in the day was I would give acids back in the day was I would give acids back in the day was I would give to my vegan clients. That had a huge to my vegan clients. That had a huge to my vegan clients. That had a huge impact. impact. impact. &gt;&gt; Yeah, for sure. &gt;&gt; Yeah, for sure. &gt;&gt; Yeah, for sure. &gt;&gt; Huge. And I would have them take five &gt;&gt; Huge. And I would have them take five &gt;&gt; Huge. And I would have them take five capsules. Uh and back then we didn't capsules. Uh and back then we didn't capsules. Uh and back then we didn't work with Keon, so it would be whatever. work with Keon, so it would be whatever. work with Keon, so it would be whatever. Now we have a good brand, but back then Now we have a good brand, but back then Now we have a good brand, but back then I would take five capsules with your I would take five capsules with your I would take five capsules with your meal. And I meal. And I meal. And I &gt;&gt; because vegan sources of protein, &gt;&gt; because vegan sources of protein, &gt;&gt; because vegan sources of protein, especially whole food, aren't that especially whole food, aren't that especially whole food, aren't that great. And I wonder if that's part of great. And I wonder if that's part of great. And I wonder if that's part of why I see such huge benefits from it is why I see such huge benefits from it is why I see such huge benefits from it is because I and anyone who's been because I and anyone who's been because I and anyone who's been listening for long enough, I've always listening for long enough, I've always listening for long enough, I've always talked about how hard it is for me to talked about how hard it is for me to talked about how hard it is for me to hit 220 grams of protein all the time. hit 220 grams of protein all the time. hit 220 grams of protein all the time. Like that's just it's hard to do that. Like that's just it's hard to do that. Like that's just it's hard to do that. It's hard for me to consistently always It's hard for me to consistently always It's hard for me to consistently always do that. Even when I'm prepping like I do that. Even when I'm prepping like I do that. Even when I'm prepping like I am right now, when I go back and I check am right now, when I go back and I check am right now, when I go back and I check like, damn, still I'm only I'm only at like, damn, still I'm only I'm only at like, damn, still I'm only I'm only at 180. And so it's like I think that fills 180. And so it's like I think that fills 180. And so it's like I think that fills those gaps. And so I think that's what those gaps. And so I think that's what those gaps. And so I think that's what I'm noticing more than anything else is I'm noticing more than anything else is I'm noticing more than anything else is just that majority of people. I just that majority of people. I just that majority of people. I &gt;&gt; I think so too. Yeah. That's why I think &gt;&gt; I think so too. Yeah. That's why I think &gt;&gt; I think so too. Yeah. That's why I think that's why I'm so sold on it and I think that's why I'm so sold on it and I think that's why I'm so sold on it and I think it's so valuable is because I think a it's so valuable is because I think a it's so valuable is because I think a lot of people lot of people lot of people &gt;&gt; underestimate how how how inconsistent &gt;&gt; underestimate how how how inconsistent &gt;&gt; underestimate how how how inconsistent they are with hitting optimal protein they are with hitting optimal protein they are with hitting optimal protein numbers. And so supplementing with numbers. And so supplementing with numbers. And so supplementing with something like that while doing that something like that while doing that something like that while doing that super beneficial. super beneficial. super beneficial. &gt;&gt; All right, I got an uplifting crazy &gt;&gt; All right, I got an uplifting crazy &gt;&gt; All right, I got an uplifting crazy story for you guys. Did you guys hear story for you guys. Did you guys hear story for you guys. Did you guys hear about the about the about the &gt;&gt; the 13-year-old boy that saved his &gt;&gt; the 13-year-old boy that saved his &gt;&gt; the 13-year-old boy that saved his family uh from drowning? family uh from drowning? family uh from drowning? &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; No. &gt;&gt; Crazy story. So there the family was out &gt;&gt; Crazy story. So there the family was out &gt;&gt; Crazy story. So there the family was out kaying and paddle boarding and they got kaying and paddle boarding and they got kaying and paddle boarding and they got swept out almost three miles out to sea. swept out almost three miles out to sea. swept out almost three miles out to sea. So it's a mom and I think it's her let So it's a mom and I think it's her let So it's a mom and I think it's her let me see uh let's see it's it's a mom and me see uh let's see it's it's a mom and me see uh let's see it's it's a mom and her uh 8-year-old and a 12-year-old boy, her uh 8-year-old and a 12-year-old boy, her uh 8-year-old and a 12-year-old boy, the 13-year-old boy and an 18 and an the 13-year-old boy and an 18 and an the 13-year-old boy and an 18 and an 8-year-old sister. So she got three kids 8-year-old sister. So she got three kids 8-year-old sister. So she got three kids out there with the mom. out there with the mom. out there with the mom. &gt;&gt; They get swept out. So it must have been &gt;&gt; They get swept out. So it must have been &gt;&gt; They get swept out. So it must have been a current or something and they're like a current or something and they're like a current or something and they're like screwed. The mom makes a decision screwed. The mom makes a decision screwed. The mom makes a decision because she's like, "I don't know what because she's like, "I don't know what because she's like, "I don't know what to do here." So, she tells her oldest to do here." So, she tells her oldest to do here." So, she tells her oldest kid, the 13-year-old, and she goes, "You kid, the 13-year-old, and she goes, "You kid, the 13-year-old, and she goes, "You got to try swimming out to shore and see got to try swimming out to shore and see got to try swimming out to shore and see if you can get us out." Now, I can't if you can get us out." Now, I can't if you can get us out." Now, I can't even imagine doing that as a parent. You even imagine doing that as a parent. You even imagine doing that as a parent. You got to send your kids out. got to send your kids out. got to send your kids out. &gt;&gt; God, &gt;&gt; God, &gt;&gt; God, &gt;&gt; and she can't leave the little ones. &gt;&gt; and she can't leave the little ones. &gt;&gt; and she can't leave the little ones. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh, yeah. &gt;&gt; So, she sends this 13-year-old boy out &gt;&gt; So, she sends this 13-year-old boy out &gt;&gt; So, she sends this 13-year-old boy out there. So, he decides he's going to do there. So, he decides he's going to do there. So, he decides he's going to do it. And so, this is what he said. He He it. And so, this is what he said. He He it. And so, this is what he said. He He had to swim for 4 hours in the ocean. had to swim for 4 hours in the ocean. had to swim for 4 hours in the ocean. &gt;&gt; Okay. The whole time he's praying and he &gt;&gt; Okay. The whole time he's praying and he &gt;&gt; Okay. The whole time he's praying and he said, "God, if you help me, I will get said, "God, if you help me, I will get said, "God, if you help me, I will get baptized." And he's talking to God. And baptized." And he's talking to God. And baptized." And he's talking to God. And this is what he says. He goes, "I don't this is what he says. He goes, "I don't this is what he says. He goes, "I don't think," this is the boy. There's an think," this is the boy. There's an think," this is the boy. There's an interview. You can watch the interview. interview. You can watch the interview. interview. You can watch the interview. He said, "I don't think it was me He said, "I don't think it was me He said, "I don't think it was me swimming. It was God the whole time. I swimming. It was God the whole time. I swimming. It was God the whole time. I kept on praying, kept on praying. I said kept on praying, kept on praying. I said kept on praying, kept on praying. I said to God, I'll get baptized. The waves to God, I'll get baptized. The waves to God, I'll get baptized. The waves were massive. I had no life jacket on. I were massive. I had no life jacket on. I were massive. I had no life jacket on. I just kept thinking, "Keep swimming. Keep just kept thinking, "Keep swimming. Keep just kept thinking, "Keep swimming. Keep swimming." And he kept praying. He made swimming." And he kept praying. He made swimming." And he kept praying. He made it to the beach, got to the shore, ran a it to the beach, got to the shore, ran a it to the beach, got to the shore, ran a mile to find help, and ended up getting mile to find help, and ended up getting mile to find help, and ended up getting help. The family, by the time that they help. The family, by the time that they help. The family, by the time that they got in the helicopter, they to find the got in the helicopter, they to find the got in the helicopter, they to find the family, they were 9 miles out to ocean, family, they were 9 miles out to ocean, family, they were 9 miles out to ocean, and they saved the whole family. and they saved the whole family. and they saved the whole family. &gt;&gt; Wow. Wa. What? What? Our coast or east? &gt;&gt; Wow. Wa. What? What? Our coast or east? &gt;&gt; Wow. Wa. What? What? Our coast or east? &gt;&gt; East. This is Australia. &gt;&gt; East. This is Australia. &gt;&gt; East. This is Australia. &gt;&gt; Australia. &gt;&gt; Australia. &gt;&gt; Australia. &gt;&gt; Australia. And the mom, she said, one of &gt;&gt; Australia. And the mom, she said, one of &gt;&gt; Australia. And the mom, she said, one of the hardest decisions ever had to make the hardest decisions ever had to make the hardest decisions ever had to make was to say to Austin, that's the boy, was to say to Austin, that's the boy, was to say to Austin, that's the boy, try to get to shore and get some help. try to get to shore and get some help. try to get to shore and get some help. &gt;&gt; How crazy is that? Yeah, imagine hours &gt;&gt; How crazy is that? Yeah, imagine hours &gt;&gt; How crazy is that? Yeah, imagine hours in the ocean. in the ocean. in the ocean. &gt;&gt; Oh, imagine her too after you send your &gt;&gt; Oh, imagine her too after you send your &gt;&gt; Oh, imagine her too after you send your kid and it's like three hours have gone kid and it's like three hours have gone kid and it's like three hours have gone by and you're phobia floating out there. by and you're phobia floating out there. by and you're phobia floating out there. &gt;&gt; But the interview was the interview was &gt;&gt; But the interview was the interview was &gt;&gt; But the interview was the interview was crazy. You hear this kid he's like I was crazy. You hear this kid he's like I was crazy. You hear this kid he's like I was praying and God he's like it wasn't me praying and God he's like it wasn't me praying and God he's like it wasn't me swimming. swimming. swimming. &gt;&gt; It's like what a what a wonderful &gt;&gt; It's like what a what a wonderful &gt;&gt; It's like what a what a wonderful miraculous. miraculous. miraculous. &gt;&gt; Is this is this recent or is this one of &gt;&gt; Is this is this recent or is this one of &gt;&gt; Is this is this recent or is this one of those times? It just happened. Okay. those times? It just happened. Okay. those times? It just happened. Okay. It's not like 20 years ago 10 years ago It's not like 20 years ago 10 years ago It's not like 20 years ago 10 years ago Facebook Facebook Facebook was like what is this 97 you just was like what is this 97 you just was like what is this 97 you just &gt;&gt; still a cool story &gt;&gt; still a cool story &gt;&gt; still a cool story to bring it's even more to bring it's even more to bring it's even more &gt;&gt; speaking of kids I'll talk about my &gt;&gt; speaking of kids I'll talk about my &gt;&gt; speaking of kids I'll talk about my daughter again yesterday this happens daughter again yesterday this happens daughter again yesterday this happens often right so I got my niece living often right so I got my niece living often right so I got my niece living with us I got two teenage girls and they with us I got two teenage girls and they with us I got two teenage girls and they they love to tease me and I love it they love to tease me and I love it they love to tease me and I love it because it's just endearing I know that because it's just endearing I know that because it's just endearing I know that they that's how they show their love and they that's how they show their love and they that's how they show their love and so they'll tease me and joke with me and so they'll tease me and joke with me and so they'll tease me and joke with me and of course you know my birthday uh is of course you know my birthday uh is of course you know my birthday uh is today and so they're calling me Boomer today and so they're calling me Boomer today and so they're calling me Boomer and Unk and all these and Unk and all these and Unk and all these &gt;&gt; names you call an old guy. &gt;&gt; names you call an old guy. &gt;&gt; names you call an old guy. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; And then they're both like they're both &gt;&gt; And then they're both like they're both &gt;&gt; And then they're both like they're both trying to mess with me, right? So like trying to mess with me, right? So like trying to mess with me, right? So like throwing punches or they're trying to throwing punches or they're trying to throwing punches or they're trying to wrestle with me. wrestle with me. wrestle with me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; And you're old and this and that. And so &gt;&gt; And you're old and this and that. And so &gt;&gt; And you're old and this and that. And so I'm like telling him like listen. And so I'm like telling him like listen. And so I'm like telling him like listen. And so I had to pause for a sec cuz we're I had to pause for a sec cuz we're I had to pause for a sec cuz we're laughing. I said listen. I said I get laughing. I said listen. I said I get laughing. I said listen. I said I get the feeling that you both think the feeling that you both think the feeling that you both think &gt;&gt; that you could take a guy out. They're &gt;&gt; that you could take a guy out. They're &gt;&gt; that you could take a guy out. They're like, "Of course we could. Both of us like, "Of course we could. Both of us like, "Of course we could. Both of us together." I said, "You can't." together." I said, "You can't." together." I said, "You can't." &gt;&gt; I said listen to me right now. &gt;&gt; I said listen to me right now. &gt;&gt; I said listen to me right now. &gt;&gt; No, &gt;&gt; No, &gt;&gt; No, &gt;&gt; you can't. &gt;&gt; you can't. &gt;&gt; you can't. &gt;&gt; In fact, go get your mother, too. &gt;&gt; In fact, go get your mother, too. &gt;&gt; In fact, go get your mother, too. &gt;&gt; I said listen. I said, "You can't get &gt;&gt; I said listen. I said, "You can't get &gt;&gt; I said listen. I said, "You can't get all three of you." I said, "I'll if I all three of you." I said, "I'll if I all three of you." I said, "I'll if I grab you with one hand, I could you'll grab you with one hand, I could you'll grab you with one hand, I could you'll be on the floor." "No, you can't." So, be on the floor." "No, you can't." So, be on the floor." "No, you can't." So, they both start squaring up they both start squaring up they both start squaring up &gt;&gt; and they're trying to get with me or &gt;&gt; and they're trying to get with me or &gt;&gt; and they're trying to get with me or whatever. So, as I grab my daughter, put whatever. So, as I grab my daughter, put whatever. So, as I grab my daughter, put her on the floor on one hand AND SHE'S her on the floor on one hand AND SHE'S her on the floor on one hand AND SHE'S SCREAMING, "AH! AH! HELP! HOW DARE you SCREAMING, "AH! AH! HELP! HOW DARE you SCREAMING, "AH! AH! HELP! HOW DARE you attack me?" attack me?" attack me?" &gt;&gt; Here's a little life lesson. &gt;&gt; Here's a little life lesson. &gt;&gt; Here's a little life lesson. &gt;&gt; Please let go. Then I let go. Then they &gt;&gt; Please let go. Then I let go. Then they &gt;&gt; Please let go. Then I let go. Then they get up and come after me again. It was get up and come after me again. It was get up and come after me again. It was the funniest dude. It was so funny. And the funniest dude. It was so funny. And the funniest dude. It was so funny. And I'll tease him about it like you'll I'll tease him about it like you'll I'll tease him about it like you'll never beat you'll never beat me, you never beat you'll never beat me, you never beat you'll never beat me, you know? Oh, I love it. Such a good time know? Oh, I love it. Such a good time know? Oh, I love it. Such a good time last night at my house just cracking up. last night at my house just cracking up. last night at my house just cracking up. &gt;&gt; So good. &gt;&gt; So good. &gt;&gt; So good. &gt;&gt; Anyway, hey, I was going to ask you, &gt;&gt; Anyway, hey, I was going to ask you, &gt;&gt; Anyway, hey, I was going to ask you, Adam, again, I want to come back to you. Adam, again, I want to come back to you. Adam, again, I want to come back to you. &gt;&gt; You had you uh last uh one of our last &gt;&gt; You had you uh last uh one of our last &gt;&gt; You had you uh last uh one of our last episodes, you were talking about how you episodes, you were talking about how you episodes, you were talking about how you you were holding water cuz you ate all you were holding water cuz you ate all you were holding water cuz you ate all this food. this food. this food. &gt;&gt; Oh, from my ice cream. &gt;&gt; Oh, from my ice cream. &gt;&gt; Oh, from my ice cream. &gt;&gt; Yeah, we were talking about like the &gt;&gt; Yeah, we were talking about like the &gt;&gt; Yeah, we were talking about like the pump and all that stuff. pump and all that stuff. pump and all that stuff. &gt;&gt; And then my burritos. &gt;&gt; And then my burritos. &gt;&gt; And then my burritos. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You had uh I have not tried &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You had uh I have not tried &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You had uh I have not tried the butcher boxes that you're talking the butcher boxes that you're talking the butcher boxes that you're talking about. about. about. &gt;&gt; So fire. &gt;&gt; So fire. &gt;&gt; So fire. &gt;&gt; So is it know they had that? &gt;&gt; So is it know they had that? &gt;&gt; So is it know they had that? &gt;&gt; You have to cook it. Is it pre-made? &gt;&gt; You have to cook it. Is it pre-made? &gt;&gt; You have to cook it. Is it pre-made? &gt;&gt; It's it comes in just like a like a &gt;&gt; It's it comes in just like a like a &gt;&gt; It's it comes in just like a like a hamburger. You know the way hamburger hamburger. You know the way hamburger hamburger. You know the way hamburger their hamburger comes. It's but it's their hamburger comes. It's but it's their hamburger comes. It's but it's &gt;&gt; Is it good? &gt;&gt; Is it good? &gt;&gt; Is it good? &gt;&gt; It's so good and it's okay. So will will &gt;&gt; It's so good and it's okay. So will will &gt;&gt; It's so good and it's okay. So will will sometimes upset my stomach. It's like sometimes upset my stomach. It's like sometimes upset my stomach. It's like greasy. It is not greasy. greasy. It is not greasy. greasy. It is not greasy. &gt;&gt; And it's got to be made. They still &gt;&gt; And it's got to be made. They still &gt;&gt; And it's got to be made. They still picking the heritage. You guys have picking the heritage. You guys have picking the heritage. You guys have that's why you guys have to try it. It's that's why you guys have to try it. It's that's why you guys have to try it. It's not like it is not not like it is not not like it is not &gt;&gt; is different. Yeah. &gt;&gt; is different. Yeah. &gt;&gt; is different. Yeah. &gt;&gt; 100%. It's the heritage pork. It's &gt;&gt; 100%. It's the heritage pork. It's &gt;&gt; 100%. It's the heritage pork. It's derived from the derived from the derived from the &gt;&gt; All their pork tastes amazing. &gt;&gt; All their pork tastes amazing. &gt;&gt; All their pork tastes amazing. &gt;&gt; Yes. And that's what made me do it &gt;&gt; Yes. And that's what made me do it &gt;&gt; Yes. And that's what made me do it because I'm like, you know what? I we because I'm like, you know what? I we because I'm like, you know what? I we rave all the time about their their rave all the time about their their rave all the time about their their heritage pork and their bay back ribs. heritage pork and their bay back ribs. heritage pork and their bay back ribs. Like I Katrina's like, I'm going to try Like I Katrina's like, I'm going to try Like I Katrina's like, I'm going to try their their their made that with some egg and a little bit made that with some egg and a little bit made that with some egg and a little bit of potato and a and a burri in burritos. of potato and a and a burri in burritos. of potato and a and a burri in burritos. It's been my breakfast. I had it again It's been my breakfast. I had it again It's been my breakfast. I had it again today. I've had it every day. Had it today. I've had it every day. Had it today. I've had it every day. Had it every day this week. every day this week. every day this week. &gt;&gt; I haven't seen it on their site. &gt;&gt; I haven't seen it on their site. &gt;&gt; I haven't seen it on their site. &gt;&gt; So good. &gt;&gt; So good. &gt;&gt; So good. &gt;&gt; And is it an add-on? It's got to be an &gt;&gt; And is it an add-on? It's got to be an &gt;&gt; And is it an add-on? It's got to be an add-on. add-on. add-on. &gt;&gt; So you just do an add-on to your box. &gt;&gt; So you just do an add-on to your box. &gt;&gt; So you just do an add-on to your box. &gt;&gt; That's a That's a wife question. &gt;&gt; That's a That's a wife question. &gt;&gt; That's a That's a wife question. &gt;&gt; Did you find it, Doug? &gt;&gt; Did you find it, Doug? &gt;&gt; Did you find it, Doug? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'm looking for it right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'm looking for it right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'm looking for it right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah, find I want to see how much what &gt;&gt; Yeah, find I want to see how much what &gt;&gt; Yeah, find I want to see how much what it is and if it's an cuz they have it is and if it's an cuz they have it is and if it's an cuz they have &gt;&gt; I'm curious cuz Yeah. Every time I eat &gt;&gt; I'm curious cuz Yeah. Every time I eat &gt;&gt; I'm curious cuz Yeah. Every time I eat trees and I love the taste. trees and I love the taste. trees and I love the taste. &gt;&gt; You have to get like immediate like &gt;&gt; You have to get like immediate like &gt;&gt; You have to get like immediate like fire. fire. fire. &gt;&gt; It tastes so different. It doesn't taste &gt;&gt; It tastes so different. It doesn't taste &gt;&gt; It tastes so different. It doesn't taste like that. It's like it's uh I mean you like that. It's like it's uh I mean you like that. It's like it's uh I mean you could tell it's like not greasy at all. could tell it's like not greasy at all. could tell it's like not greasy at all. &gt;&gt; We even took it we took the even the &gt;&gt; We even took it we took the even the &gt;&gt; We even took it we took the even the little bit of greasy she poured it out little bit of greasy she poured it out little bit of greasy she poured it out then then then &gt;&gt; Well, you do it anyway. &gt;&gt; Well, you do it anyway. &gt;&gt; Well, you do it anyway. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Right. And then we and then &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Right. And then we and then &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Right. And then we and then we made the burritos out of it and it's we made the burritos out of it and it's we made the burritos out of it and it's like Yeah. Not greasy. like Yeah. Not greasy. like Yeah. Not greasy. &gt;&gt; Side note, I heard this new term and &gt;&gt; Side note, I heard this new term and &gt;&gt; Side note, I heard this new term and Courtney was uh I don't know. She's like Courtney was uh I don't know. She's like Courtney was uh I don't know. She's like obsessed about like growing um her own obsessed about like growing um her own obsessed about like growing um her own food and like stuff for like spices and food and like stuff for like spices and food and like stuff for like spices and like having all this stuff in the house like having all this stuff in the house like having all this stuff in the house and she make you guys have had her like and she make you guys have had her like and she make you guys have had her like sourdough bread and all. It's like she's sourdough bread and all. It's like she's sourdough bread and all. It's like she's she's really into just like making she's really into just like making she's really into just like making everything from scratch. And so everything from scratch. And so everything from scratch. And so apparently there's this term uh it's apparently there's this term uh it's apparently there's this term uh it's called like the ingredient household and called like the ingredient household and called like the ingredient household and and so the the philosophy is really like and so the the philosophy is really like and so the the philosophy is really like you have the whole house is like stocked you have the whole house is like stocked you have the whole house is like stocked with all these ingredients and with all these ingredients and with all these ingredients and everything to make like even the kids everything to make like even the kids everything to make like even the kids will go like and they do this a lot. will go like and they do this a lot. will go like and they do this a lot. They'll go, you know, make their own They'll go, you know, make their own They'll go, you know, make their own cookies or they'll make their own cookies or they'll make their own cookies or they'll make their own brownies. brownies. brownies. &gt;&gt; You have all the basic ingredients to &gt;&gt; You have all the basic ingredients to &gt;&gt; You have all the basic ingredients to &gt;&gt; all the basic ingredients to do &gt;&gt; all the basic ingredients to do &gt;&gt; all the basic ingredients to do everything. We don't have anything everything. We don't have anything everything. We don't have anything prepackaged or anything like ready like prepackaged or anything like ready like prepackaged or anything like ready like accessible. They have to go in and and accessible. They have to go in and and accessible. They have to go in and and we've been, you know, experimenting with we've been, you know, experimenting with we've been, you know, experimenting with the boys with this for like the last the boys with this for like the last the boys with this for like the last couple years, couple years, couple years, &gt;&gt; you know. What a great point, Justin. Uh &gt;&gt; you know. What a great point, Justin. Uh &gt;&gt; you know. What a great point, Justin. Uh uh we have lost the art of uh cooking uh we have lost the art of uh cooking uh we have lost the art of uh cooking together because everything's so together because everything's so together because everything's so convenient. And I get it. It takes time. convenient. And I get it. It takes time. convenient. And I get it. It takes time. One of the best ways to bond with your One of the best ways to bond with your One of the best ways to bond with your spouse or your kids is to like make spouse or your kids is to like make spouse or your kids is to like make things. Yeah. things. Yeah. things. Yeah. &gt;&gt; It gives you automatic time. Sometimes &gt;&gt; It gives you automatic time. Sometimes &gt;&gt; It gives you automatic time. Sometimes you think, "What do I do with my kids? I you think, "What do I do with my kids? I you think, "What do I do with my kids? I got to think." Cook something together. got to think." Cook something together. got to think." Cook something together. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; You know, it's a lot of fun. What is &gt;&gt; You know, it's a lot of fun. What is &gt;&gt; You know, it's a lot of fun. What is that, Doug? Is that showing? that, Doug? Is that showing? that, Doug? Is that showing? &gt;&gt; Is this the one, Adam? That &gt;&gt; Is this the one, Adam? That &gt;&gt; Is this the one, Adam? That &gt;&gt; Yeah. ground pork sausage right there, &gt;&gt; Yeah. ground pork sausage right there, &gt;&gt; Yeah. ground pork sausage right there, right? right? right? &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. Yep. &gt;&gt; Wow. Yep. &gt;&gt; Wow. Yep. &gt;&gt; What's it cost? Is it an add-on? How &gt;&gt; What's it cost? Is it an add-on? How &gt;&gt; What's it cost? Is it an add-on? How much is it? much is it? much is it? &gt;&gt; It is an add-on. It's 10 bucks right &gt;&gt; It is an add-on. It's 10 bucks right &gt;&gt; It is an add-on. It's 10 bucks right now. $10.20. now. $10.20. now. $10.20. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's two pounds. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's two pounds. &gt;&gt; Oh, that's two pounds. &gt;&gt; No, that's right. &gt;&gt; No, that's right. &gt;&gt; No, that's right. &gt;&gt; You guys have to I'm serious. &gt;&gt; You guys have to I'm serious. &gt;&gt; You guys have to I'm serious. &gt;&gt; It's on. &gt;&gt; It's on. &gt;&gt; It's on. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got to tell you guys, by the &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got to tell you guys, by the &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got to tell you guys, by the way, uh cuz uh you know uh I just turned way, uh cuz uh you know uh I just turned way, uh cuz uh you know uh I just turned I'm on the the wrong side of uh 40 now. I'm on the the wrong side of uh 40 now. I'm on the the wrong side of uh 40 now. So I'm getting closer to that other that So I'm getting closer to that other that So I'm getting closer to that other that other decade. other decade. other decade. &gt;&gt; Now you say now we say you're almost 50, &gt;&gt; Now you say now we say you're almost 50, &gt;&gt; Now you say now we say you're almost 50, &gt;&gt; dude. &gt;&gt; dude. &gt;&gt; dude. At least a few years, but still. But At least a few years, but still. But At least a few years, but still. But anyways, my friends were like, "Hey, anyways, my friends were like, "Hey, anyways, my friends were like, "Hey, what kind of gifts can we get you, you what kind of gifts can we get you, you what kind of gifts can we get you, you know, for your birthday, which I wanted know, for your birthday, which I wanted know, for your birthday, which I wanted gifts." So I gave them a bunch of, you gifts." So I gave them a bunch of, you gifts." So I gave them a bunch of, you know, so here's the list of things that know, so here's the list of things that know, so here's the list of things that I I told them. So you guys didn't watch. I I told them. So you guys didn't watch. I I told them. So you guys didn't watch. &gt;&gt; If you're an old guy, if you're an old &gt;&gt; If you're an old guy, if you're an old &gt;&gt; If you're an old guy, if you're an old guy, you understand. Okay. So number guy, you understand. Okay. So number guy, you understand. Okay. So number one, I said I said New Balance shoes, one, I said I said New Balance shoes, one, I said I said New Balance shoes, but Velcro, but Velcro, but Velcro, &gt;&gt; of course. You got to have Velcro shoes. &gt;&gt; of course. You got to have Velcro shoes. &gt;&gt; of course. You got to have Velcro shoes. By the way, my dad always buys shoes By the way, my dad always buys shoes By the way, my dad always buys shoes without laces and I used to make fun of without laces and I used to make fun of without laces and I used to make fun of him. I get it now. him. I get it now. him. I get it now. Spatula. Spatula. Spatula. &gt;&gt; No, I said I said I said ibuprofen &gt;&gt; No, I said I said I said ibuprofen &gt;&gt; No, I said I said I said ibuprofen because sometimes I sleep wrong and get because sometimes I sleep wrong and get because sometimes I sleep wrong and get injured for no some reason. Hair injured for no some reason. Hair injured for no some reason. Hair clippers for my ears. That's always clippers for my ears. That's always clippers for my ears. That's always &gt;&gt; that's a new one. Uh a sign that says &gt;&gt; that's a new one. Uh a sign that says &gt;&gt; that's a new one. Uh a sign that says get off my lawn. That's the other one. get off my lawn. That's the other one. get off my lawn. That's the other one. &gt;&gt; Slow down. &gt;&gt; Slow down. &gt;&gt; Slow down. &gt;&gt; A cassette mixtape and a pencil. If &gt;&gt; A cassette mixtape and a pencil. If &gt;&gt; A cassette mixtape and a pencil. If you're from our generation, you you're from our generation, you you're from our generation, you understand the association. You know why understand the association. You know why understand the association. You know why there's a pencil with a cassette there's a pencil with a cassette there's a pencil with a cassette cassette tape. I said a blockbuster cassette tape. I said a blockbuster cassette tape. I said a blockbuster t-shirt t-shirt t-shirt &gt;&gt; kind rewind. &gt;&gt; kind rewind. &gt;&gt; kind rewind. &gt;&gt; Another one I said a cereal box with &gt;&gt; Another one I said a cereal box with &gt;&gt; Another one I said a cereal box with Bruce Jenner on the cover. &gt;&gt; The original. &gt;&gt; The original. &gt;&gt; You guys remember that guy? &gt;&gt; You guys remember that guy? &gt;&gt; You guys remember that guy? &gt;&gt; The original. &gt;&gt; The original. &gt;&gt; The original. &gt;&gt; Uh the other one was Tiger Bomb &gt;&gt; Uh the other one was Tiger Bomb &gt;&gt; Uh the other one was Tiger Bomb menilated cream for my joints. And then menilated cream for my joints. And then menilated cream for my joints. And then finally I said a jug of water from the finally I said a jug of water from the finally I said a jug of water from the garden hose cuz that's the best water. garden hose cuz that's the best water. garden hose cuz that's the best water. That was the best water that we drank. That was the best water that we drank. That was the best water that we drank. &gt;&gt; That actually would be like a really &gt;&gt; That actually would be like a really &gt;&gt; That actually would be like a really cool like birth to actually get all that cool like birth to actually get all that cool like birth to actually get all that to get all that stuff would be really to get all that stuff would be really to get all that stuff would be really funny. funny. funny. &gt;&gt; I bet you forgot Tums in there. &gt;&gt; I bet you forgot Tums in there. &gt;&gt; I bet you forgot Tums in there. Hey, I bet you right there, Doug. Look Hey, I bet you right there, Doug. Look Hey, I bet you right there, Doug. Look up on eBay a Wedies box with Bruce up on eBay a Wedies box with Bruce up on eBay a Wedies box with Bruce Jenner. I bet you it's worth a ton of Jenner. I bet you it's worth a ton of Jenner. I bet you it's worth a ton of money. money. money. &gt;&gt; Oh, you think so? &gt;&gt; Oh, you think so? &gt;&gt; Oh, you think so? &gt;&gt; I bet you it's worth a ton. &gt;&gt; I bet you it's worth a ton. &gt;&gt; I bet you it's worth a ton. &gt;&gt; Did you see my post I did about Doug? &gt;&gt; Did you see my post I did about Doug? &gt;&gt; Did you see my post I did about Doug? &gt;&gt; Oh, so I you know Doug Doug's big silver &gt;&gt; Oh, so I you know Doug Doug's big silver &gt;&gt; Oh, so I you know Doug Doug's big silver guy, right? So I did you see what I did? guy, right? So I did you see what I did? guy, right? So I did you see what I did? So I So behind me, right, Wimi last So I So behind me, right, Wimi last So I So behind me, right, Wimi last year, right, when Doug's talking about year, right, when Doug's talking about year, right, when Doug's talking about buying silver, I bought the Wimi silver buying silver, I bought the Wimi silver buying silver, I bought the Wimi silver panini. Okay, which is a rookie card of panini. Okay, which is a rookie card of panini. Okay, which is a rookie card of his and I got it at 700 bucks. It's his and I got it at 700 bucks. It's his and I got it at 700 bucks. It's selling right now for $1,500. selling right now for $1,500. selling right now for $1,500. &gt;&gt; Wow. Doubled your money. &gt;&gt; Wow. Doubled your money. &gt;&gt; Wow. Doubled your money. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Had you back actually bought real &gt;&gt; Had you back actually bought real &gt;&gt; Had you back actually bought real silver, you might have been even up silver, you might have been even up silver, you might have been even up more. more. more. &gt;&gt; No, I did the math actually. That's why &gt;&gt; No, I did the math actually. That's why &gt;&gt; No, I did the math actually. That's why I did it first. It was 51% with silver. I did it first. It was 51% with silver. I did it first. It was 51% with silver. I was up about 57%. So that was the I was up about 57%. So that was the I was up about 57%. So that was the point though was I was looking up silver point though was I was looking up silver point though was I was looking up silver and how much silver had gone up in the and how much silver had gone up in the and how much silver had gone up in the last year and I was like, "Oh, wow. It last year and I was like, "Oh, wow. It last year and I was like, "Oh, wow. It looks like my silver panini went up a looks like my silver panini went up a looks like my silver panini went up a little bit more than silver did." little bit more than silver did." little bit more than silver did." &gt;&gt; Did you find the Waties box? &gt;&gt; Did you find the Waties box? &gt;&gt; Did you find the Waties box? &gt;&gt; I did. There's a bunch of them on sale. &gt;&gt; I did. There's a bunch of them on sale. &gt;&gt; I did. There's a bunch of them on sale. &gt;&gt; How much? &gt;&gt; How much? &gt;&gt; How much? &gt;&gt; Well, they vary. One is $94. There's one &gt;&gt; Well, they vary. One is $94. There's one &gt;&gt; Well, they vary. One is $94. There's one that's been dropped to $345. that's been dropped to $345. that's been dropped to $345. &gt;&gt; Some of them are &gt;&gt; Some of them are &gt;&gt; Some of them are &gt;&gt; Are they not opened, too? &gt;&gt; Are they not opened, too? &gt;&gt; Are they not opened, too? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Some of them are not even opened. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Some of them are not even opened. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Some of them are not even opened. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; So, &gt;&gt; So, &gt;&gt; So, &gt;&gt; yeah. &gt;&gt; yeah. &gt;&gt; yeah. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; Wow. &gt;&gt; That's a famous box. &gt;&gt; That's a famous box. &gt;&gt; That's a famous box. &gt;&gt; Eat it. &gt;&gt; Eat it. &gt;&gt; Eat it. &gt;&gt; You guys know the picture, right? Where &gt;&gt; You guys know the picture, right? Where &gt;&gt; You guys know the picture, right? Where you running? you running? you running? &gt;&gt; Of course. Of course. Yeah. Look at &gt;&gt; Of course. Of course. Yeah. Look at &gt;&gt; Of course. Of course. Yeah. Look at that, dude. You know what's weird that, dude. You know what's weird that, dude. You know what's weird &gt;&gt; that I mean that's so that's so cool. &gt;&gt; that I mean that's so that's so cool. &gt;&gt; that I mean that's so that's so cool. &gt;&gt; Have you guys ever noticed this? I'm &gt;&gt; Have you guys ever noticed this? I'm &gt;&gt; Have you guys ever noticed this? I'm sure you have. Do you notice all the men sure you have. Do you notice all the men sure you have. Do you notice all the men when they date a Kardashian like these when they date a Kardashian like these when they date a Kardashian like these all turn out kind of all turn out kind of all turn out kind of &gt;&gt; something happens to all of them, bro? &gt;&gt; something happens to all of them, bro? &gt;&gt; something happens to all of them, bro? &gt;&gt; They get MK Ultra. &gt;&gt; They get MK Ultra. &gt;&gt; They get MK Ultra. &gt;&gt; Something happens to all almost every &gt;&gt; Something happens to all almost every &gt;&gt; Something happens to all almost every single guy. single guy. single guy. &gt;&gt; Oh god. &gt;&gt; Oh god. &gt;&gt; Oh god. &gt;&gt; That ends up marrying one of those &gt;&gt; That ends up marrying one of those &gt;&gt; That ends up marrying one of those chicks. chicks. chicks. &gt;&gt; You know, I I do like that you brought &gt;&gt; You know, I I do like that you brought &gt;&gt; You know, I I do like that you brought this up though. And what I was talking this up though. And what I was talking this up though. And what I was talking about is like uh the collectibles are about is like uh the collectibles are about is like uh the collectibles are like interesting to watch right now with like interesting to watch right now with like interesting to watch right now with um um um &gt;&gt; our dollar being destroyed. Like a lot &gt;&gt; our dollar being destroyed. Like a lot &gt;&gt; our dollar being destroyed. Like a lot of collectible stuff is like way way way of collectible stuff is like way way way of collectible stuff is like way way way up. It's I mean it got me back. up. It's I mean it got me back. up. It's I mean it got me back. &gt;&gt; You start buying things with baseball &gt;&gt; You start buying things with baseball &gt;&gt; You start buying things with baseball cards. I bro, you should you should see cards. I bro, you should you should see cards. I bro, you should you should see I have I have a bunch of our I have I have a bunch of our I have I have a bunch of our &gt;&gt; new currency. &gt;&gt; new currency. &gt;&gt; new currency. &gt;&gt; My buddies that my buddies that I told &gt;&gt; My buddies that my buddies that I told &gt;&gt; My buddies that my buddies that I told you I tease that are like that actually you I tease that are like that actually you I tease that are like that actually watch other grown men open cards. I will watch other grown men open cards. I will watch other grown men open cards. I will never I will never reach never I will never reach never I will never reach &gt;&gt; that gets them no sex. &gt;&gt; that gets them no sex. &gt;&gt; that gets them no sex. &gt;&gt; But what I will what I will tell you is &gt;&gt; But what I will what I will tell you is &gt;&gt; But what I will what I will tell you is that the the excitement of of opening that the the excitement of of opening that the the excitement of of opening cards cuz it's like gambling because cards cuz it's like gambling because cards cuz it's like gambling because there's collectible cards in there that there's collectible cards in there that there's collectible cards in there that are worth the kind of money that I just are worth the kind of money that I just are worth the kind of money that I just shared with you. That's a card from just shared with you. That's a card from just shared with you. That's a card from just last year is already valued that high. last year is already valued that high. last year is already valued that high. &gt;&gt; That part I I get into. So, we were all &gt;&gt; That part I I get into. So, we were all &gt;&gt; That part I I get into. So, we were all supposed to get together this weekend supposed to get together this weekend supposed to get together this weekend and so I have like all these boxes of and so I have like all these boxes of and so I have like all these boxes of cards that I'm like I bought last like cards that I'm like I bought last like cards that I'm like I bought last like in the Christmas time that I'm waiting in the Christmas time that I'm waiting in the Christmas time that I'm waiting to like open up and stuff and I haven't to like open up and stuff and I haven't to like open up and stuff and I haven't done that since I was like a kid, dude. done that since I was like a kid, dude. done that since I was like a kid, dude. So, it's I'm all excited right now. So, it's I'm all excited right now. So, it's I'm all excited right now. &gt;&gt; You going to open in front of them? &gt;&gt; You going to open in front of them? &gt;&gt; You going to open in front of them? &gt;&gt; Yeah, of course. I'm going to open We're &gt;&gt; Yeah, of course. I'm going to open We're &gt;&gt; Yeah, of course. I'm going to open We're going to do I'll let they'll get to open going to do I'll let they'll get to open going to do I'll let they'll get to open it up together. There's a way to do it it up together. There's a way to do it it up together. There's a way to do it and everything like there we were last and everything like there we were last and everything like there we were last the last time we were all together the last time we were all together the last time we were all together &gt;&gt; and this is me hanging out. These are &gt;&gt; and this is me hanging out. These are &gt;&gt; and this is me hanging out. These are like my childhood friends. like my childhood friends. like my childhood friends. &gt;&gt; Their wives must think this is the worst &gt;&gt; Their wives must think this is the worst &gt;&gt; Their wives must think this is the worst thing ever. thing ever. thing ever. &gt;&gt; Totally. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Totally. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Totally. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You know, they do not get &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You know, they do not get &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. You know, they do not get any. They any. They any. They &gt;&gt; like you want to get your wife like the &gt;&gt; like you want to get your wife like the &gt;&gt; like you want to get your wife like the Sahara Desert, just tell her you watch Sahara Desert, just tell her you watch Sahara Desert, just tell her you watch other men open baseball. other men open baseball. other men open baseball. &gt;&gt; Yes. No, it is &gt;&gt; Yes. No, it is &gt;&gt; Yes. No, it is &gt;&gt; the equivalent would be what was it &gt;&gt; the equivalent would be what was it &gt;&gt; the equivalent would be what was it called? Um the the pony prancer like Oh called? Um the the pony prancer like Oh called? Um the the pony prancer like Oh god. god. god. &gt;&gt; Like or stuffed animals. &gt;&gt; Like or stuffed animals. &gt;&gt; Like or stuffed animals. &gt;&gt; Hobby horses. &gt;&gt; Hobby horses. &gt;&gt; Hobby horses. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Hobby horses or or having a bunch &gt;&gt; Yeah. Hobby horses or or having a bunch &gt;&gt; Yeah. Hobby horses or or having a bunch of stuffed animals for guys. That's like of stuffed animals for guys. That's like of stuffed animals for guys. That's like I was I was with Jay last weekend and we I was I was with Jay last weekend and we I was I was with Jay last weekend and we were talking because we're all friends were talking because we're all friends were talking because we're all friends and we're all in a a group thread and we're all in a a group thread and we're all in a a group thread together. So that and a mic. I was then together. So that and a mic. I was then together. So that and a mic. I was then and I was teasing the other buddy about and I was teasing the other buddy about and I was teasing the other buddy about that. I was like, "Dude, he wa you know that. I was like, "Dude, he wa you know that. I was like, "Dude, he wa you know the he's grown ass man and he watches the he's grown ass man and he watches the he's grown ass man and he watches other men open baseball cards." I'm other men open baseball cards." I'm other men open baseball cards." I'm like, "That's just I get the excitement like, "That's just I get the excitement like, "That's just I get the excitement around the baseball cards and it's around the baseball cards and it's around the baseball cards and it's collectible." So, I'm not crapping on collectible." So, I'm not crapping on collectible." So, I'm not crapping on that. Like, I just explained an example that. Like, I just explained an example that. Like, I just explained an example of like you they're assets, right? You of like you they're assets, right? You of like you they're assets, right? You get the right ones and then you they're get the right ones and then you they're get the right ones and then you they're cool, right? So, I get that. But to cool, right? So, I get that. But to cool, right? So, I get that. But to watch other men open the cards is a watch other men open the cards is a watch other men open the cards is a little bit too much for me. A little bit little bit too much for me. A little bit little bit too much for me. A little bit too much for me. And we were we were all too much for me. And we were we were all too much for me. And we were we were all together over the Christmas holiday together over the Christmas holiday together over the Christmas holiday break. And for Christmas, uh my my my break. And for Christmas, uh my my my break. And for Christmas, uh my my my there's like another mother of mine. to there's like another mother of mine. to there's like another mother of mine. to my best friend's mom. She had bought all my best friend's mom. She had bought all my best friend's mom. She had bought all the her boy her two boys and then her the her boy her two boys and then her the her boy her two boys and then her her husband who's now into the opening her husband who's now into the opening her husband who's now into the opening the cards them and we're there's we had the cards them and we're there's we had the cards them and we're there's we had boxes of them and for after Christmas boxes of them and for after Christmas boxes of them and for after Christmas we're all opening them up and my buddy we're all opening them up and my buddy we're all opening them up and my buddy and and his brother are so into it like and and his brother are so into it like and and his brother are so into it like there's a way to open it and you slide there's a way to open it and you slide there's a way to open it and you slide it up one at a time to like to build up it up one at a time to like to build up it up one at a time to like to build up the suspense. And so to watch to watch the suspense. And so to watch to watch the suspense. And so to watch to watch them get mad at their dad, the way he's them get mad at their dad, the way he's them get mad at their dad, the way he's opening the cards and the way he's WHAT opening the cards and the way he's WHAT opening the cards and the way he's WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST. ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST. ARE YOU DOING? YOU'RE GOING TOO FAST. You're ruining You're ruining You're ruining do seductively. do seductively. do seductively. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; It's It's exactly right. There's like &gt;&gt; It's It's exactly right. There's like &gt;&gt; It's It's exactly right. There's like this Yeah. Yeah. this Yeah. Yeah. this Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; I'll have to I'll have to show you guys. &gt;&gt; I'll have to I'll have to show you guys. &gt;&gt; I'll have to I'll have to show you guys. There's I got video of like it happening There's I got video of like it happening There's I got video of like it happening and going down and I'm like inside of and going down and I'm like inside of and going down and I'm like inside of &gt;&gt; top 10 things that make that just turn &gt;&gt; top 10 things that make that just turn &gt;&gt; top 10 things that make that just turn off your wife. Come on. off your wife. Come on. off your wife. Come on. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't think that turns any wife &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't think that turns any wife &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't think that turns any wife on. You don't need to I'd be into on. You don't need to I'd be into on. You don't need to I'd be into garbage pill kids if we could just like garbage pill kids if we could just like garbage pill kids if we could just like bring those back bring those back bring those back sick. sick. sick. &gt;&gt; Those were great, but I ain't watching &gt;&gt; Those were great, but I ain't watching &gt;&gt; Those were great, but I ain't watching somebody open a box of them. somebody open a box of them. somebody open a box of them. &gt;&gt; Uh, no. &gt;&gt; Uh, no. &gt;&gt; Uh, no. &gt;&gt; That that's that's like the video game &gt;&gt; That that's that's like the video game &gt;&gt; That that's that's like the video game thing for me. Like I get the video game thing for me. Like I get the video game thing for me. Like I get the video game thing, but to watch other people play thing, but to watch other people play thing, but to watch other people play the video game thing, I just don't that the video game thing, I just don't that the video game thing, I just don't that they can't I can't get behind that. they can't I can't get behind that. they can't I can't get behind that. &gt;&gt; That was always annoying cuz you'd have &gt;&gt; That was always annoying cuz you'd have &gt;&gt; That was always annoying cuz you'd have to wait forever for that older brother to wait forever for that older brother to wait forever for that older brother and like yeah, cool. You're good at it, and like yeah, cool. You're good at it, and like yeah, cool. You're good at it, but I want to turn, you know? It's like but I want to turn, you know? It's like but I want to turn, you know? It's like and that became its own economy. and that became its own economy. and that became its own economy. &gt;&gt; It's huge. You know how it's huge that &gt;&gt; It's huge. You know how it's huge that &gt;&gt; It's huge. You know how it's huge that people watch for hours other grown people watch for hours other grown people watch for hours other grown adults play play video games in open adults play play video games in open adults play play video games in open cars. cars. cars. &gt;&gt; What is it? T Payne who makes like so &gt;&gt; What is it? T Payne who makes like so &gt;&gt; What is it? T Payne who makes like so much money. He doesn't even tour because much money. He doesn't even tour because much money. He doesn't even tour because &gt;&gt; he makes more money people watching him &gt;&gt; he makes more money people watching him &gt;&gt; he makes more money people watching him play video games and rapping. That's play video games and rapping. That's play video games and rapping. That's what he's known for. It's so wild. Have what he's known for. It's so wild. Have what he's known for. It's so wild. Have you know what you got to do? If this is you know what you got to do? If this is you know what you got to do? If this is you and you're a man, this is what you you and you're a man, this is what you you and you're a man, this is what you do. do. do. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, there's definitely people &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, there's definitely people &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, there's definitely people listening that do this. listening that do this. listening that do this. &gt;&gt; That's fine. I'm going to give you some &gt;&gt; That's fine. I'm going to give you some &gt;&gt; That's fine. I'm going to give you some advice. This is what you do. Have kids. advice. This is what you do. Have kids. advice. This is what you do. Have kids. Wait till your kid gets older and if Wait till your kid gets older and if Wait till your kid gets older and if they get into it now you now you can do they get into it now you now you can do they get into it now you now you can do it. it. it. &gt;&gt; Now you got a reason to go have fun with &gt;&gt; Now you got a reason to go have fun with &gt;&gt; Now you got a reason to go have fun with toys is because your kids are into it. toys is because your kids are into it. toys is because your kids are into it. But if you're doing it on your own, &gt;&gt; go make some I don't know. Go do &gt;&gt; go make some I don't know. Go do something else, dude. something else, dude. something else, dude. &gt;&gt; Don't work out. I don't know. &gt;&gt; Don't work out. I don't know. &gt;&gt; Don't work out. 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California. California. &gt;&gt; Hi Nicole. How you doing, Nicole? &gt;&gt; Hi Nicole. How you doing, Nicole? &gt;&gt; Hi Nicole. How you doing, Nicole? &gt;&gt; Hi, guys. How are you? &gt;&gt; Hi, guys. How are you? &gt;&gt; Hi, guys. How are you? &gt;&gt; Good. How you doing? How can we help &gt;&gt; Good. How you doing? How can we help &gt;&gt; Good. How you doing? How can we help you? I recognize you. Have we seen you you? I recognize you. Have we seen you you? I recognize you. Have we seen you at our events before? at our events before? at our events before? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've been on your calls before, &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've been on your calls before, &gt;&gt; Yeah, I've been on your calls before, live calls, and I I also met you in Las live calls, and I I also met you in Las live calls, and I I also met you in Las Vegas, and I've come to the studio in Vegas, and I've come to the studio in Vegas, and I've come to the studio in person, so I feel like the luckiest person, so I feel like the luckiest person, so I feel like the luckiest person. person. person. &gt;&gt; Good to see you again. How can we help? &gt;&gt; Good to see you again. How can we help? &gt;&gt; Good to see you again. How can we help? &gt;&gt; Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Um, so &gt;&gt; Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Um, so &gt;&gt; Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Um, so I wanted to um preface my email that I I wanted to um preface my email that I I wanted to um preface my email that I wrote in with a couple of points. Um, I wrote in with a couple of points. Um, I wrote in with a couple of points. Um, I just want to let you know guys know that just want to let you know guys know that just want to let you know guys know that I'm really proud of where I am right I'm really proud of where I am right I'm really proud of where I am right now. After listening to you guys for now. After listening to you guys for now. After listening to you guys for three and a half years and running MAPS three and a half years and running MAPS three and a half years and running MAPS programs for 3 years now, I am programs for 3 years now, I am programs for 3 years now, I am physically a lot stronger and mentally a physically a lot stronger and mentally a physically a lot stronger and mentally a lot stronger. So, I just feel like I'm lot stronger. So, I just feel like I'm lot stronger. So, I just feel like I'm in a pretty good place, but I do have a in a pretty good place, but I do have a in a pretty good place, but I do have a hurdle that's come up over and over hurdle that's come up over and over hurdle that's come up over and over again over the last few years. So, this again over the last few years. So, this again over the last few years. So, this is this is what my email comes in. is this is what my email comes in. is this is what my email comes in. &gt;&gt; Okay. All right. So, um, I have a &gt;&gt; Okay. All right. So, um, I have a &gt;&gt; Okay. All right. So, um, I have a nutrition issue and question. I recently nutrition issue and question. I recently nutrition issue and question. I recently got an email from Mind Pump saying that got an email from Mind Pump saying that got an email from Mind Pump saying that you have a nutrition plan call option you have a nutrition plan call option you have a nutrition plan call option and I want to know if this would be a and I want to know if this would be a and I want to know if this would be a good fit for me. The nutrition part is good fit for me. The nutrition part is good fit for me. The nutrition part is my main hurdle. As I mentioned before, I my main hurdle. As I mentioned before, I my main hurdle. As I mentioned before, I have had a history of restricting have had a history of restricting have had a history of restricting heavily and whenever I cut it messes heavily and whenever I cut it messes heavily and whenever I cut it messes with me mentally. Um, I've been doing with me mentally. Um, I've been doing with me mentally. Um, I've been doing your mass programs for a little over your mass programs for a little over your mass programs for a little over three years and I'm super consistent. I three years and I'm super consistent. I three years and I'm super consistent. I love lifting. I have no problem with love lifting. I have no problem with love lifting. I have no problem with that at all. I've gotten a lot stronger that at all. I've gotten a lot stronger that at all. I've gotten a lot stronger in the last 3 years and I think I look in the last 3 years and I think I look in the last 3 years and I think I look buff when I flex. So, um there's a buff when I flex. So, um there's a buff when I flex. So, um there's a little layer of fat over it all and it little layer of fat over it all and it little layer of fat over it all and it really hasn't messed with me too much in really hasn't messed with me too much in really hasn't messed with me too much in the last year or so. Uh I did bulk up a the last year or so. Uh I did bulk up a the last year or so. Uh I did bulk up a couple of times in the last 3 years, but couple of times in the last 3 years, but couple of times in the last 3 years, but I also bulked up in weight like 10 to 12 I also bulked up in weight like 10 to 12 I also bulked up in weight like 10 to 12 lbs and I had started at a heavier body lbs and I had started at a heavier body lbs and I had started at a heavier body weight than I was used to. So, my weight than I was used to. So, my weight than I was used to. So, my original goal was to lose body fat and original goal was to lose body fat and original goal was to lose body fat and now I feel like I'm ready to cut. But now I feel like I'm ready to cut. But now I feel like I'm ready to cut. But every time I do it, I come up with this every time I do it, I come up with this every time I do it, I come up with this issue. Um, I recently did three inbody issue. Um, I recently did three inbody issue. Um, I recently did three inbody scans at my naturopath in the last 6 scans at my naturopath in the last 6 scans at my naturopath in the last 6 months, and I went up from like 26.8% months, and I went up from like 26.8% months, and I went up from like 26.8% body fat to 29% body fat, which was my body fat to 29% body fat, which was my body fat to 29% body fat, which was my last one in December. And it it also last one in December. And it it also last one in December. And it it also says that my muscle mass is in the high says that my muscle mass is in the high says that my muscle mass is in the high section at like 61 lbs of skeletal section at like 61 lbs of skeletal section at like 61 lbs of skeletal muscle mass. So, she said that's great. muscle mass. So, she said that's great. muscle mass. So, she said that's great. Um, and I'm really proud of that. So Um, and I'm really proud of that. So Um, and I'm really proud of that. So when I do try to cut, it's short-lived when I do try to cut, it's short-lived when I do try to cut, it's short-lived and I revert back to maintenance because and I revert back to maintenance because and I revert back to maintenance because it's less stressful mentally. I'm not it's less stressful mentally. I'm not it's less stressful mentally. I'm not feeling like physically restricted. I feeling like physically restricted. I feeling like physically restricted. I don't really get like hunger or anything don't really get like hunger or anything don't really get like hunger or anything like that. It's just my it's all in my like that. It's just my it's all in my like that. It's just my it's all in my mind. So my goal is to lose 10 pounds of mind. So my goal is to lose 10 pounds of mind. So my goal is to lose 10 pounds of body fat and get in a healthier body fat body fat and get in a healthier body fat body fat and get in a healthier body fat range. Like around 24 25% body fat is my range. Like around 24 25% body fat is my range. Like around 24 25% body fat is my goal. Mainly for health. Um I've kind of goal. Mainly for health. Um I've kind of goal. Mainly for health. Um I've kind of come to like a more comfortable feeling come to like a more comfortable feeling come to like a more comfortable feeling in my my bigger body really mentally. in my my bigger body really mentally. in my my bigger body really mentally. I'm just a little bit more concerned I'm just a little bit more concerned I'm just a little bit more concerned health-wise. health-wise. health-wise. So, I'm currently like 153 lbs and I So, I'm currently like 153 lbs and I So, I'm currently like 153 lbs and I have a really hard time with weighing have a really hard time with weighing have a really hard time with weighing and tracking my food. And I have hired and tracking my food. And I have hired and tracking my food. And I have hired online coaches before, including Mind online coaches before, including Mind online coaches before, including Mind Pump online coach. And um it's just it's Pump online coach. And um it's just it's Pump online coach. And um it's just it's just not something I'm willing to do just not something I'm willing to do just not something I'm willing to do with tracking. So, I know I eat with tracking. So, I know I eat with tracking. So, I know I eat currently around like 2,00 to 2200 currently around like 2,00 to 2200 currently around like 2,00 to 2200 calories at a maintenance. And I'm calories at a maintenance. And I'm calories at a maintenance. And I'm really great at hitting my protein. I really great at hitting my protein. I really great at hitting my protein. I usually eat well over 140 gram of usually eat well over 140 gram of usually eat well over 140 gram of protein a day. And I do tend to eat a protein a day. And I do tend to eat a protein a day. And I do tend to eat a little lower carbohydrate, like around little lower carbohydrate, like around little lower carbohydrate, like around 100. 120 is like my max. And I would say 100. 120 is like my max. And I would say 100. 120 is like my max. And I would say I typically hit lower than 100. Um, and I typically hit lower than 100. Um, and I typically hit lower than 100. Um, and my my fat intake is usually kind of my my fat intake is usually kind of my my fat intake is usually kind of high, like 85 g. Um, in the past, I did high, like 85 g. Um, in the past, I did high, like 85 g. Um, in the past, I did the bulk and I gained the strength, but the bulk and I gained the strength, but the bulk and I gained the strength, but the fat along with it. And um, I did the fat along with it. And um, I did the fat along with it. And um, I did bulk up to like 25 2600 calories and I bulk up to like 25 2600 calories and I bulk up to like 25 2600 calories and I didn't feel like I got huge strength didn't feel like I got huge strength didn't feel like I got huge strength gains from that. I kind of just felt gains from that. I kind of just felt gains from that. I kind of just felt like it was a lot of forcing me to eat. like it was a lot of forcing me to eat. like it was a lot of forcing me to eat. Um, and probably had something to do Um, and probably had something to do Um, and probably had something to do with some of the body fat I gained. And with some of the body fat I gained. And with some of the body fat I gained. And I want to know if I was a good candidate I want to know if I was a good candidate I want to know if I was a good candidate to just have somebody go over like what to just have somebody go over like what to just have somebody go over like what I eat, maybe just in photos and see um I eat, maybe just in photos and see um I eat, maybe just in photos and see um if I if they can just give me like a if I if they can just give me like a if I if they can just give me like a really simple, doable plan that I can really simple, doable plan that I can really simple, doable plan that I can stick to. Uh, let's see if I have stick to. Uh, let's see if I have stick to. Uh, let's see if I have anything else. And then that's it. I anything else. And then that's it. I anything else. And then that's it. I just had some of my strength gains just had some of my strength gains just had some of my strength gains written down in the last year. I I written down in the last year. I I written down in the last year. I I tracked from December of 2025 to 2024. tracked from December of 2025 to 2024. tracked from December of 2025 to 2024. And I think I did really well at not And I think I did really well at not And I think I did really well at not bulking during that time. bulking during that time. bulking during that time. &gt;&gt; You're doing a good job. You are really, &gt;&gt; You're doing a good job. You are really, &gt;&gt; You're doing a good job. You are really, really good job. And um just so you know really good job. And um just so you know really good job. And um just so you know that there is no health benefit if that there is no health benefit if that there is no health benefit if you're fit and healthy and you're you're fit and healthy and you're you're fit and healthy and you're strong, especially if you're strong, strong, especially if you're strong, strong, especially if you're strong, you're not really going to get a health you're not really going to get a health you're not really going to get a health benefit going from 28, 29 to 25 or 24. benefit going from 28, 29 to 25 or 24. benefit going from 28, 29 to 25 or 24. So there's no worry So there's no worry So there's no worry &gt;&gt; about being uh at the body fat &gt;&gt; about being uh at the body fat &gt;&gt; about being uh at the body fat percentage you're at, percentage you're at, percentage you're at, &gt;&gt; especially with the muscle you have. &gt;&gt; especially with the muscle you have. &gt;&gt; especially with the muscle you have. &gt;&gt; Yeah. fact that some of the some data &gt;&gt; Yeah. fact that some of the some data &gt;&gt; Yeah. fact that some of the some data suggests it might even be healthier for suggests it might even be healthier for suggests it might even be healthier for some women some women some women &gt;&gt; um to be in the high 20s um especially &gt;&gt; um to be in the high 20s um especially &gt;&gt; um to be in the high 20s um especially as you get older, but you're far from as you get older, but you're far from as you get older, but you're far from that. But anyway, my point is if it's that. But anyway, my point is if it's that. But anyway, my point is if it's for health, there's really no there's no for health, there's really no there's no for health, there's really no there's no reason. Now, if you want it to change reason. Now, if you want it to change reason. Now, if you want it to change aesthetics aesthetics aesthetics &gt;&gt; Yeah, that would be great. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that would be great. &gt;&gt; Yeah, that would be great. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. So, if that's part of it, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. So, if that's part of it, &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. So, if that's part of it, you know, then then we can definitely you know, then then we can definitely you know, then then we can definitely tackle it. So, the question is and and I tackle it. So, the question is and and I tackle it. So, the question is and and I get it. I get the tracking issue. Um and get it. I get the tracking issue. Um and get it. I get the tracking issue. Um and a lot of people don't like it. Um, and a lot of people don't like it. Um, and a lot of people don't like it. Um, and so here's the thing. Part of it comes so here's the thing. Part of it comes so here's the thing. Part of it comes from for some people that they don't from for some people that they don't from for some people that they don't like to be told what to do. And so once like to be told what to do. And so once like to be told what to do. And so once they feel controlled, and I see you they feel controlled, and I see you they feel controlled, and I see you smiling there, so I'm assuming you have smiling there, so I'm assuming you have smiling there, so I'm assuming you have that personality when you, you know, if that personality when you, you know, if that personality when you, you know, if you're told to do something that your you're told to do something that your you're told to do something that your instinct may be to go and do the instinct may be to go and do the instinct may be to go and do the opposite or not do it, or you feel opposite or not do it, or you feel opposite or not do it, or you feel controlled. Okay. controlled. Okay. controlled. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, so that's that's the that's &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, so that's that's the that's &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, so that's that's the that's kind of a big issue. Um, and that's I kind of a big issue. Um, and that's I kind of a big issue. Um, and that's I mean that's a bigger issue. It doesn't mean that's a bigger issue. It doesn't mean that's a bigger issue. It doesn't just relate to food. It tends to bleed just relate to food. It tends to bleed just relate to food. It tends to bleed out into the rest of our lives. out into the rest of our lives. out into the rest of our lives. Nonetheless, there are ways to coach Nonetheless, there are ways to coach Nonetheless, there are ways to coach without tracking. without tracking. without tracking. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; So, there are ways to coach someone to &gt;&gt; So, there are ways to coach someone to &gt;&gt; So, there are ways to coach someone to get leaner uh without tracking. And I get leaner uh without tracking. And I get leaner uh without tracking. And I would assume um someone like you, would assume um someone like you, would assume um someone like you, Nicole, that you generally eat the same Nicole, that you generally eat the same Nicole, that you generally eat the same kind of foods most days. I don't think kind of foods most days. I don't think kind of foods most days. I don't think your diet radically changes. your diet radically changes. your diet radically changes. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; So, if I were coaching you or if I were &gt;&gt; So, if I were coaching you or if I were &gt;&gt; So, if I were coaching you or if I were having one of our coaches work with you, having one of our coaches work with you, having one of our coaches work with you, &gt;&gt; then they would work with you based off &gt;&gt; then they would work with you based off &gt;&gt; then they would work with you based off of that and not necessarily tracking. of that and not necessarily tracking. of that and not necessarily tracking. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And so it'll be like change a &gt;&gt; Yeah. And so it'll be like change a &gt;&gt; Yeah. And so it'll be like change a couple things here, take a couple ounces couple things here, take a couple ounces couple things here, take a couple ounces of whatever here out and then uh and of whatever here out and then uh and of whatever here out and then uh and work from there. Um and then your on work from there. Um and then your on work from there. Um and then your on your side your side your side because I've worked with a lot of people because I've worked with a lot of people because I've worked with a lot of people like you. Um and the the challenge can like you. Um and the the challenge can like you. Um and the the challenge can be letting me coach you. And so as a be letting me coach you. And so as a be letting me coach you. And so as a coach, I have to I I have to work with coach, I have to I I have to work with coach, I have to I I have to work with you. I'm just going to let you in on how you. I'm just going to let you in on how you. I'm just going to let you in on how coaches work, okay? coaches work, okay? coaches work, okay? &gt;&gt; I would work with you. And a lot of it &gt;&gt; I would work with you. And a lot of it &gt;&gt; I would work with you. And a lot of it would be me helping you feel like it's would be me helping you feel like it's would be me helping you feel like it's your idea your idea your idea &gt;&gt; because if I tell you to do something, &gt;&gt; because if I tell you to do something, &gt;&gt; because if I tell you to do something, then I know you're going to want to then I know you're going to want to then I know you're going to want to rebel. And by the way, I have that same rebel. And by the way, I have that same rebel. And by the way, I have that same personality. personality. personality. &gt;&gt; Okay? &gt;&gt; Okay? &gt;&gt; Okay? &gt;&gt; So, a good coach is going to really work &gt;&gt; So, a good coach is going to really work &gt;&gt; So, a good coach is going to really work with you and help you figure it out. But with you and help you figure it out. But with you and help you figure it out. But on your end, Nicole, you have to submit on your end, Nicole, you have to submit on your end, Nicole, you have to submit and just say, "I'll just do it." And not and just say, "I'll just do it." And not and just say, "I'll just do it." And not feel controlled, but rather, "This is feel controlled, but rather, "This is feel controlled, but rather, "This is what I want." what I want." what I want." &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Now, the question is, can you get down &gt;&gt; Now, the question is, can you get down &gt;&gt; Now, the question is, can you get down to 24? Yeah, you totally could. You've to 24? Yeah, you totally could. You've to 24? Yeah, you totally could. You've got good muscle strength. You're got good muscle strength. You're got good muscle strength. You're consistent. you look healthy. Uh going consistent. you look healthy. Uh going consistent. you look healthy. Uh going down to 24 25% wouldn't be a problem. down to 24 25% wouldn't be a problem. down to 24 25% wouldn't be a problem. &gt;&gt; You'd be a good candidate uh for our &gt;&gt; You'd be a good candidate uh for our &gt;&gt; You'd be a good candidate uh for our concier program where you just check you concier program where you just check you concier program where you just check you just check in with a coach once a month. just check in with a coach once a month. just check in with a coach once a month. &gt;&gt; And so they they basically do the &gt;&gt; And so they they basically do the &gt;&gt; And so they they basically do the nutrition plan with you, set it all up, nutrition plan with you, set it all up, nutrition plan with you, set it all up, set you since you since you've got as set you since you since you've got as set you since you since you've got as much experience as you have already and much experience as you have already and much experience as you have already and then they just check in with you on a then they just check in with you on a then they just check in with you on a monthly basis and make tweaks based off monthly basis and make tweaks based off monthly basis and make tweaks based off of the feedback and what you're giving of the feedback and what you're giving of the feedback and what you're giving them. And so I think that would be them. And so I think that would be them. And so I think that would be great. Um, give me an idea of where great. Um, give me an idea of where great. Um, give me an idea of where you're at activity-wise. Do do you have you're at activity-wise. Do do you have you're at activity-wise. Do do you have any idea how many steps you take a day any idea how many steps you take a day any idea how many steps you take a day or anything like that? or anything like that? or anything like that? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I take like 13,000 steps a day. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I take like 13,000 steps a day. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I take like 13,000 steps a day. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're pretty active. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're pretty active. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're pretty active. &gt;&gt; I do all I do a three-day a week, 1 hour &gt;&gt; I do all I do a three-day a week, 1 hour &gt;&gt; I do all I do a three-day a week, 1 hour um program from MAPS. I just finished um um program from MAPS. I just finished um um program from MAPS. I just finished um MAPS 40 plus and I just started Muscle MAPS 40 plus and I just started Muscle MAPS 40 plus and I just started Muscle Mommy yesterday again for the like I've Mommy yesterday again for the like I've Mommy yesterday again for the like I've done it like four times at least. And done it like four times at least. And done it like four times at least. And then I do I've been doing the one day of then I do I've been doing the one day of then I do I've been doing the one day of the sprinting from MAPS 40 plus on my the sprinting from MAPS 40 plus on my the sprinting from MAPS 40 plus on my Tuesday. So, I work out Monday, Tuesday. So, I work out Monday, Tuesday. So, I work out Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and then on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, and then on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, and then on Tuesday, I just do like a 15- 20 minute sprinting I just do like a 15- 20 minute sprinting I just do like a 15- 20 minute sprinting on a on a cycle, like a bike. on a on a cycle, like a bike. on a on a cycle, like a bike. &gt;&gt; Okay. Yeah. You you're pretty active. &gt;&gt; Okay. Yeah. You you're pretty active. &gt;&gt; Okay. Yeah. You you're pretty active. That's uh that's a lot of steps. So, That's uh that's a lot of steps. So, That's uh that's a lot of steps. So, typically when I when I And Were you typically when I when I And Were you typically when I when I And Were you doing that when you reverse dieted too? doing that when you reverse dieted too? doing that when you reverse dieted too? &gt;&gt; The steps? Yeah. &gt;&gt; The steps? Yeah. &gt;&gt; The steps? Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Okay. &gt;&gt; I've been consistent with that for &gt;&gt; I've been consistent with that for &gt;&gt; I've been consistent with that for years, like a decade. I have a dog and I years, like a decade. I have a dog and I years, like a decade. I have a dog and I walk her every day. walk her every day. walk her every day. &gt;&gt; Okay. So, it's kind of like where you &gt;&gt; Okay. So, it's kind of like where you &gt;&gt; Okay. So, it's kind of like where you stay. How hard is it to increase from stay. How hard is it to increase from stay. How hard is it to increase from there? there? there? &gt;&gt; It'd be hard. &gt;&gt; It'd be hard. &gt;&gt; It'd be hard. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. &gt;&gt; That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. &gt;&gt; That's a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I don't think I want to do that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I don't think I want to do that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I don't think I want to do that. &gt;&gt; So, the reason why I asked that is &gt;&gt; So, the reason why I asked that is &gt;&gt; So, the reason why I asked that is because another way to to help to because another way to to help to because another way to to help to without tracking macros is like what I without tracking macros is like what I without tracking macros is like what I would do with someone like you is we would do with someone like you is we would do with someone like you is we would do like a reverse diet first, would do like a reverse diet first, would do like a reverse diet first, which means since you're already at high which means since you're already at high which means since you're already at high steps, I'd actually take back on steps, steps, I'd actually take back on steps, steps, I'd actually take back on steps, which would already start to cause a which would already start to cause a which would already start to cause a reverse diet because you're moving less. reverse diet because you're moving less. reverse diet because you're moving less. &gt;&gt; Okay? &gt;&gt; Okay? &gt;&gt; Okay? &gt;&gt; And do and do a bulk with a smaller &gt;&gt; And do and do a bulk with a smaller &gt;&gt; And do and do a bulk with a smaller amount of calories, less activity. And amount of calories, less activity. And amount of calories, less activity. And then when we decide to cut, I increase then when we decide to cut, I increase then when we decide to cut, I increase your activity while cutting or cutting a your activity while cutting or cutting a your activity while cutting or cutting a few things out, changing a few things in few things out, changing a few things in few things out, changing a few things in the diet. Like what you told you would the diet. Like what you told you would the diet. Like what you told you would tell me what you ate for the day. And tell me what you ate for the day. And tell me what you ate for the day. And I'd be like, "Oh, cool. Instead of I'd be like, "Oh, cool. Instead of I'd be like, "Oh, cool. Instead of having 6 ounces there, I just want you having 6 ounces there, I just want you having 6 ounces there, I just want you to have 5 ounces there. And instead of to have 5 ounces there. And instead of to have 5 ounces there. And instead of having a full cup of that, I just want having a full cup of that, I just want having a full cup of that, I just want you to have a half a cup of that." And I you to have a half a cup of that." And I you to have a half a cup of that." And I could just I could take away a few could just I could take away a few could just I could take away a few hundred calories and I could get you to hundred calories and I could get you to hundred calories and I could get you to move 2,000 more steps. But if you're move 2,000 more steps. But if you're move 2,000 more steps. But if you're already at peak amount of activity, I already at peak amount of activity, I already at peak amount of activity, I don't have a lot of room to play with. don't have a lot of room to play with. don't have a lot of room to play with. This is, by the way, this is exactly This is, by the way, this is exactly This is, by the way, this is exactly what I'm doing with Karen right now. what I'm doing with Karen right now. what I'm doing with Karen right now. It's like I've told her like, "Hey, no It's like I've told her like, "Hey, no It's like I've told her like, "Hey, no going out of your way to get steps. going out of your way to get steps. going out of your way to get steps. We're in the reverse diet phase right We're in the reverse diet phase right We're in the reverse diet phase right now. So, stop with the walking like now. So, stop with the walking like now. So, stop with the walking like crazy. I need to be able to use that as crazy. I need to be able to use that as crazy. I need to be able to use that as a tool to go into our cut." And right a tool to go into our cut." And right a tool to go into our cut." And right now, it's just about bulking, getting now, it's just about bulking, getting now, it's just about bulking, getting stronger, and adding calories. And then stronger, and adding calories. And then stronger, and adding calories. And then one of the first things that I will do one of the first things that I will do one of the first things that I will do is I will modify a little bit of the is I will modify a little bit of the is I will modify a little bit of the food. And I'll say, "Okay, now I want food. And I'll say, "Okay, now I want food. And I'll say, "Okay, now I want you to get 2,000 more steps a day." But you to get 2,000 more steps a day." But you to get 2,000 more steps a day." But if you're already at peak steps if you're already at peak steps if you're already at peak steps &gt;&gt; and you stay at peak steps all time that &gt;&gt; and you stay at peak steps all time that &gt;&gt; and you stay at peak steps all time that that you that's a lever that we can't that you that's a lever that we can't that you that's a lever that we can't pull right now. And so pull right now. And so pull right now. And so &gt;&gt; it would be another strategy if you &gt;&gt; it would be another strategy if you &gt;&gt; it would be another strategy if you don't like tracking. That's a great don't like tracking. That's a great don't like tracking. That's a great strategy to pull that lever. But then I strategy to pull that lever. But then I strategy to pull that lever. But then I got to get you to pull back right now got to get you to pull back right now got to get you to pull back right now while we reverse diet and build muscle while we reverse diet and build muscle while we reverse diet and build muscle and then go the other direction. and then go the other direction. and then go the other direction. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't see me pulling back on my &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't see me pulling back on my &gt;&gt; Yeah. I don't see me pulling back on my steps just cuz like that's my daily steps just cuz like that's my daily steps just cuz like that's my daily that's just how active I am and I don't that's just how active I am and I don't that's just how active I am and I don't want to give up my I just like a two-m want to give up my I just like a two-m want to give up my I just like a two-m walk I do with my dog every day outside walk I do with my dog every day outside walk I do with my dog every day outside in the sunshine. So yeah. Yeah, I in the sunshine. So yeah. Yeah, I in the sunshine. So yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't change that. It would be the wouldn't change that. It would be the wouldn't change that. It would be the anything you get on the any sort of anything you get on the any sort of anything you get on the any sort of cardio equipment. cardio equipment. cardio equipment. &gt;&gt; I don't do it except for Tuesday. I do &gt;&gt; I don't do it except for Tuesday. I do &gt;&gt; I don't do it except for Tuesday. I do like I said a 15minute. It's that like I said a 15minute. It's that like I said a 15minute. It's that sprinting of 15 seconds and then a sprinting of 15 seconds and then a sprinting of 15 seconds and then a minute of rest. And I do that. minute of rest. And I do that. minute of rest. And I do that. &gt;&gt; It's not much. I &gt;&gt; It's not much. I &gt;&gt; It's not much. I &gt;&gt; Is that too much? &gt;&gt; Is that too much? &gt;&gt; Is that too much? &gt;&gt; No, it's not. No, no, no, it's not. &gt;&gt; No, it's not. No, no, no, it's not. &gt;&gt; No, it's not. No, no, no, it's not. &gt;&gt; I You know, here's the the other thing, &gt;&gt; I You know, here's the the other thing, &gt;&gt; I You know, here's the the other thing, too, you want to consider, okay? um is too, you want to consider, okay? um is too, you want to consider, okay? um is you want to look at okay what's how much you want to look at okay what's how much you want to look at okay what's how much of an improvement in life quality is a 3 of an improvement in life quality is a 3 of an improvement in life quality is a 3 or 4% loss in body fat and then compare or 4% loss in body fat and then compare or 4% loss in body fat and then compare that to that to that to &gt;&gt; the changes that you would make uh and &gt;&gt; the changes that you would make uh and &gt;&gt; the changes that you would make uh and is it worth it now here's the thing with is it worth it now here's the thing with is it worth it now here's the thing with body fat percentage Nicole body fat percentage Nicole body fat percentage Nicole &gt;&gt; uh people store body fat in ways that &gt;&gt; uh people store body fat in ways that &gt;&gt; uh people store body fat in ways that where someone can be at 28% and and look where someone can be at 28% and and look where someone can be at 28% and and look great and other women will store it great and other women will store it great and other women will store it differently at 28% % have to get much differently at 28% % have to get much differently at 28% % have to get much leaner. If you store around your a lot leaner. If you store around your a lot leaner. If you store around your a lot on your midsection, then I don't think on your midsection, then I don't think on your midsection, then I don't think so. Yeah. So, so. Yeah. So, so. Yeah. So, &gt;&gt; I'm all booty. &gt;&gt; I'm all booty. &gt;&gt; I'm all booty. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, you probably store it in a &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, you probably store it in a &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, you probably store it in a very healthy way. very healthy way. very healthy way. &gt;&gt; That's a good thing. &gt;&gt; That's a good thing. &gt;&gt; That's a good thing. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, you know, okay, if you lost if &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, you know, okay, if you lost if &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, you know, okay, if you lost if you dropped 4% body fat, which you could you dropped 4% body fat, which you could you dropped 4% body fat, which you could go after and try, is that going to give go after and try, is that going to give go after and try, is that going to give you like is it going to be worth, you you like is it going to be worth, you you like is it going to be worth, you know, is is the juice worth this worth know, is is the juice worth this worth know, is is the juice worth this worth the the the &gt;&gt; Well, especially if it makes you do &gt;&gt; Well, especially if it makes you do &gt;&gt; Well, especially if it makes you do things like I was already starting to things like I was already starting to things like I was already starting to mention like it starts to make you mention like it starts to make you mention like it starts to make you manipulate your steps and now you have manipulate your steps and now you have manipulate your steps and now you have to kind of track just to get 4% like to kind of track just to get 4% like to kind of track just to get 4% like &gt;&gt; you know where you would benefit from &gt;&gt; you know where you would benefit from &gt;&gt; you know where you would benefit from coaching coaching coaching &gt;&gt; more than the diet maybe small tweaks in &gt;&gt; more than the diet maybe small tweaks in &gt;&gt; more than the diet maybe small tweaks in the diet but probably individualization the diet but probably individualization the diet but probably individualization of your program design. Mhm. of your program design. Mhm. of your program design. Mhm. &gt;&gt; At your level, your consistency, if you &gt;&gt; At your level, your consistency, if you &gt;&gt; At your level, your consistency, if you were my client, and and I'm talking to were my client, and and I'm talking to were my client, and and I'm talking to you and I'm hearing all this stuff, I you and I'm hearing all this stuff, I you and I'm hearing all this stuff, I might make a couple little suggestions might make a couple little suggestions might make a couple little suggestions with diet, but then I'm going to look at with diet, but then I'm going to look at with diet, but then I'm going to look at your workout and I'm going to your workout and I'm going to your workout and I'm going to individualize it. So, you're following individualize it. So, you're following individualize it. So, you're following our general programming, which is good, our general programming, which is good, our general programming, which is good, &gt;&gt; but nothing beats individualization. So, &gt;&gt; but nothing beats individualization. So, &gt;&gt; but nothing beats individualization. So, I'm going to look at it and I'm going to I'm going to look at it and I'm going to I'm going to look at it and I'm going to say, "Okay, I'm going to change this, say, "Okay, I'm going to change this, say, "Okay, I'm going to change this, change that." And then that would that change that." And then that would that change that." And then that would that would um leverage your metabolism in a would um leverage your metabolism in a would um leverage your metabolism in a positive way, cause the body shape positive way, cause the body shape positive way, cause the body shape changes uh that you're probably looking changes uh that you're probably looking changes uh that you're probably looking for. for. for. &gt;&gt; That'd be cool. &gt;&gt; That'd be cool. &gt;&gt; That'd be cool. &gt;&gt; It would be more of a programming thing. &gt;&gt; It would be more of a programming thing. &gt;&gt; It would be more of a programming thing. There definitely would be some diet There definitely would be some diet There definitely would be some diet suggestions, but it wouldn't be hardcore suggestions, but it wouldn't be hardcore suggestions, but it wouldn't be hardcore diet. diet. diet. &gt;&gt; This is why I think she's so perfect for &gt;&gt; This is why I think she's so perfect for &gt;&gt; This is why I think she's so perfect for the concier because she's got you would the concier because she's got you would the concier because she's got you would just be those tweaks when we meet once a just be those tweaks when we meet once a just be those tweaks when we meet once a month is just like, "Hey, this is what month is just like, "Hey, this is what month is just like, "Hey, this is what we're gonna be doing. we're gonna be doing. we're gonna be doing. &gt;&gt; I'm following muscle mommy. Here's what &gt;&gt; I'm following muscle mommy. Here's what &gt;&gt; I'm following muscle mommy. Here's what my weight, you know, these are the my weight, you know, these are the my weight, you know, these are the weights I'm using. here's whatever. Then weights I'm using. here's whatever. Then weights I'm using. here's whatever. Then they would make individualization to they would make individualization to they would make individualization to your programming. your programming. your programming. &gt;&gt; Okay, that sounds pretty great. Um, I &gt;&gt; Okay, that sounds pretty great. Um, I &gt;&gt; Okay, that sounds pretty great. Um, I didn't know that was an option even didn't know that was an option even didn't know that was an option even though I listen to you guys every every though I listen to you guys every every though I listen to you guys every every podcast you put out. I guess I missed podcast you put out. I guess I missed podcast you put out. I guess I missed that one. that one. that one. &gt;&gt; Well, no, we don't really we don't push &gt;&gt; Well, no, we don't really we don't push &gt;&gt; Well, no, we don't really we don't push and promote it. It's just something that and promote it. It's just something that and promote it. It's just something that we offer to our clients as as an option. we offer to our clients as as an option. we offer to our clients as as an option. Typically clients will go through like a Typically clients will go through like a Typically clients will go through like a pro program, get to their goal, and then pro program, get to their goal, and then pro program, get to their goal, and then it's one of our ways to kind of just it's one of our ways to kind of just it's one of our ways to kind of just maintain a client that now has all the maintain a client that now has all the maintain a client that now has all the tools. like you've listen obviously tools. like you've listen obviously tools. like you've listen obviously you've been listening, you've been going you've been listening, you've been going you've been listening, you've been going through this. Sounds like you have a lot through this. Sounds like you have a lot through this. Sounds like you have a lot of those tools and so you would be of those tools and so you would be of those tools and so you would be somebody who I could send right to that somebody who I could send right to that somebody who I could send right to that direction. direction. direction. &gt;&gt; That sounds great. As far as like my &gt;&gt; That sounds great. As far as like my &gt;&gt; That sounds great. As far as like my personality and matching me up with personality and matching me up with personality and matching me up with someone, I've just realized like someone, I've just realized like someone, I've just realized like &gt;&gt; I'm really blunt. Um I like full-blown &gt;&gt; I'm really blunt. Um I like full-blown &gt;&gt; I'm really blunt. Um I like full-blown honesty and sometimes I need to be kind honesty and sometimes I need to be kind honesty and sometimes I need to be kind of like pushed around. of like pushed around. of like pushed around. &gt;&gt; Um so like if someone's really like more &gt;&gt; Um so like if someone's really like more &gt;&gt; Um so like if someone's really like more of a meek personality, it doesn't really of a meek personality, it doesn't really of a meek personality, it doesn't really work out with me. It's just work out with me. It's just work out with me. It's just &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you got if you got &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you got if you got &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you got if you got someone in mind that would be someone in mind that would be someone in mind that would be &gt;&gt; we'll take we'll take care of that for &gt;&gt; we'll take we'll take care of that for &gt;&gt; we'll take we'll take care of that for you. We'll take care of that for you. you. We'll take care of that for you. you. We'll take care of that for you. Nicole Nicole Nicole now that we know who's now now we know now that we know who's now now we know now that we know who's now now we know who's sending over. We'll we'll take who's sending over. We'll we'll take who's sending over. We'll we'll take care of who you get with. Don't worry. care of who you get with. Don't worry. care of who you get with. Don't worry. &gt;&gt; We'll put in the notes. &gt;&gt; We'll put in the notes. &gt;&gt; We'll put in the notes. &gt;&gt; That sounds great. Well, thank you guys &gt;&gt; That sounds great. Well, thank you guys &gt;&gt; That sounds great. Well, thank you guys for um all your time. I really for um all your time. I really for um all your time. I really appreciate you. You guys crack me up appreciate you. You guys crack me up appreciate you. You guys crack me up every time I listen to you. And um I'm every time I listen to you. And um I'm every time I listen to you. And um I'm really really proud of how strong I've really really proud of how strong I've really really proud of how strong I've gotten. Even though it's not like the gotten. Even though it's not like the gotten. Even though it's not like the numbers some of your live callers put numbers some of your live callers put numbers some of your live callers put out, it's is pretty amazing. out, it's is pretty amazing. out, it's is pretty amazing. &gt;&gt; You're doing awesome, Nicole. You're &gt;&gt; You're doing awesome, Nicole. You're &gt;&gt; You're doing awesome, Nicole. You're doing really good. Yes. Keep it up. doing really good. Yes. Keep it up. doing really good. Yes. Keep it up. &gt;&gt; Thanks, guys. &gt;&gt; Thanks, guys. &gt;&gt; Thanks, guys. &gt;&gt; Have a great day. &gt;&gt; Have a great day. &gt;&gt; Have a great day. &gt;&gt; You, too. &gt;&gt; You, too. &gt;&gt; You, too. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got to I got to say this, too, &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got to I got to say this, too, &gt;&gt; Yeah. I got to I got to say this, too, cuz we get hung up on body fat cuz we get hung up on body fat cuz we get hung up on body fat &gt;&gt; percentage. &gt;&gt; percentage. &gt;&gt; percentage. &gt;&gt; Body fat distribution makes a big &gt;&gt; Body fat distribution makes a big &gt;&gt; Body fat distribution makes a big difference. Like, huge difference. Like, difference. Like, huge difference. Like, difference. Like, huge difference. Like, &gt;&gt; well, there's a &gt;&gt; well, there's a &gt;&gt; well, there's a &gt;&gt; especially for women because so men &gt;&gt; especially for women because so men &gt;&gt; especially for women because so men generally store body fat the same, generally store body fat the same, generally store body fat the same, although you could have a weird although you could have a weird although you could have a weird distribution. Like, a dude could store distribution. Like, a dude could store distribution. Like, a dude could store it in his hips and but for the most it in his hips and but for the most it in his hips and but for the most part, it's on on our belly. uh women if part, it's on on our belly. uh women if part, it's on on our belly. uh women if they store it uh hourglass style and they store it uh hourglass style and they store it uh hourglass style and there's there's muscle underneath there's there's muscle underneath there's there's muscle underneath &gt;&gt; 28% 29% looks amazing in many women so &gt;&gt; 28% 29% looks amazing in many women so &gt;&gt; 28% 29% looks amazing in many women so distrib so sometimes we get hung up well distrib so sometimes we get hung up well distrib so sometimes we get hung up well I should probably be down here and then I should probably be down here and then I should probably be down here and then for health purposes if you're fit for health purposes if you're fit for health purposes if you're fit there's no difference it's not going to there's no difference it's not going to there's no difference it's not going to make make make &gt;&gt; especially with good muscle and you know &gt;&gt; especially with good muscle and you know &gt;&gt; especially with good muscle and you know she reminds me of one of my last clients she reminds me of one of my last clients she reminds me of one of my last clients that I had in fact I still was in that I had in fact I still was in that I had in fact I still was in contact and helping her for a long time contact and helping her for a long time contact and helping her for a long time even while we were doing this podcast even while we were doing this podcast even while we were doing this podcast and she's always was was asking for the and she's always was was asking for the and she's always was was asking for the next percentage and I was constantly next percentage and I was constantly next percentage and I was constantly reminded I said you look great you're in reminded I said you look great you're in reminded I said you look great you're in great shape you and it's like you want great shape you and it's like you want great shape you and it's like you want this next 4% but what it what you have this next 4% but what it what you have this next 4% but what it what you have to sacrifice to get that next 4% is not to sacrifice to get that next 4% is not to sacrifice to get that next 4% is not not only will you not be any healthier not only will you not be any healthier not only will you not be any healthier arguably you'd be less healthy to get to arguably you'd be less healthy to get to arguably you'd be less healthy to get to that next 4% that you're you're talking that next 4% that you're you're talking that next 4% that you're you're talking about but then you're going to have to about but then you're going to have to about but then you're going to have to like just you're not going to be able to like just you're not going to be able to like just you're not going to be able to enjoy that you love to go out with the enjoy that you love to go out with the enjoy that you love to go out with the girls every once in a while and have a girls every once in a while and have a girls every once in a while and have a glass of wine you love to do these glass of wine you love to do these glass of wine you love to do these things that those are those are great things that those are those are great things that those are those are great healthy balanced parts of your life that healthy balanced parts of your life that healthy balanced parts of your life that you have found a way to keep yourself in you have found a way to keep yourself in you have found a way to keep yourself in a healthy place strong and fit and to a healthy place strong and fit and to a healthy place strong and fit and to ask for that there's the sacrifice that ask for that there's the sacrifice that ask for that there's the sacrifice that and it's just and I can hear that in her and it's just and I can hear that in her and it's just and I can hear that in her voice like I I don't want to do that. I voice like I I don't want to do that. I voice like I I don't want to do that. I don't want like well then just okay then don't want like well then just okay then don't want like well then just okay then you're doing great you're doing great you're doing great &gt;&gt; belief that if you if you look uh &gt;&gt; belief that if you if you look uh &gt;&gt; belief that if you if you look uh shredded you'll have this your life is shredded you'll have this your life is shredded you'll have this your life is dramatically better. It's not true. No, dramatically better. It's not true. No, dramatically better. It's not true. No, &gt;&gt; it doesn't change that much that to go &gt;&gt; it doesn't change that much that to go &gt;&gt; it doesn't change that much that to go from unhealthy to healthy big from unhealthy to healthy big from unhealthy to healthy big difference. difference. difference. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, I'm glad she was too was uh &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, I'm glad she was too was uh &gt;&gt; Yeah. Well, I'm glad she was too was uh interested in kind of changing up her interested in kind of changing up her interested in kind of changing up her training because like a lot of times training because like a lot of times training because like a lot of times just focusing on that is going to take just focusing on that is going to take just focusing on that is going to take you so much further. You get what you you so much further. You get what you you so much further. You get what you want and then two, you got all these, want and then two, you got all these, want and then two, you got all these, you know, new abilities you didn't have you know, new abilities you didn't have you know, new abilities you didn't have before. before. before. &gt;&gt; That's what I would have done with if &gt;&gt; That's what I would have done with if &gt;&gt; That's what I would have done with if she was my client. Just from talking she was my client. Just from talking she was my client. Just from talking with her, I'd be like, I'm going to work with her, I'd be like, I'm going to work with her, I'd be like, I'm going to work on programming with you. That's what on programming with you. That's what on programming with you. That's what we're going to have fun with it. That's we're going to have fun with it. That's we're going to have fun with it. That's it. it. it. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Alex from &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Alex from &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Alex from Massachusetts. Massachusetts. Massachusetts. &gt;&gt; Hi, Alex. &gt;&gt; Hi, Alex. &gt;&gt; Hi, Alex. &gt;&gt; Good to be there. So nice to meet you &gt;&gt; Good to be there. So nice to meet you &gt;&gt; Good to be there. So nice to meet you guys. guys. guys. &gt;&gt; Yeah. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yeah. How can we help you? So, I am in my second po postpartum. I So, I am in my second po postpartum. I So, I am in my second po postpartum. I had two babies kind of backtoback. had two babies kind of backtoback. had two babies kind of backtoback. They're six and a half months apart They're six and a half months apart They're six and a half months apart prior to having kids. Um, I focus on my prior to having kids. Um, I focus on my prior to having kids. Um, I focus on my fitness for like 2 hours a day. Uh, fitness for like 2 hours a day. Uh, fitness for like 2 hours a day. Uh, loved running. Did five half marathons loved running. Did five half marathons loved running. Did five half marathons in a year. Um, and you know, I've kept in a year. Um, and you know, I've kept in a year. Um, and you know, I've kept my nutrition pretty consistent while my nutrition pretty consistent while my nutrition pretty consistent while having my kids, but I just haven't, you having my kids, but I just haven't, you having my kids, but I just haven't, you know, focused on fitness. So, I'm kind know, focused on fitness. So, I'm kind know, focused on fitness. So, I'm kind of coming out of that fog of my of coming out of that fog of my of coming out of that fog of my postpartum, really looking to get back postpartum, really looking to get back postpartum, really looking to get back into fitness again. Just wanted your into fitness again. Just wanted your into fitness again. Just wanted your take on, you know, what should I change take on, you know, what should I change take on, you know, what should I change and how do I really start this process? and how do I really start this process? and how do I really start this process? &gt;&gt; Thanks for calling in, Alex. &gt;&gt; Thanks for calling in, Alex. &gt;&gt; Thanks for calling in, Alex. &gt;&gt; When you were when you were running, uh, &gt;&gt; When you were when you were running, uh, &gt;&gt; When you were when you were running, uh, were you also strength training or just were you also strength training or just were you also strength training or just running? running? running? &gt;&gt; So, I was doing both. I definitely did &gt;&gt; So, I was doing both. I definitely did &gt;&gt; So, I was doing both. I definitely did more running than strength training. Um, more running than strength training. Um, more running than strength training. Um, I just really fell in love with it. It I just really fell in love with it. It I just really fell in love with it. It was kind of therapeutic for me. So, was kind of therapeutic for me. So, was kind of therapeutic for me. So, majority of the time I definitely was majority of the time I definitely was majority of the time I definitely was running with probably like short, you running with probably like short, you running with probably like short, you know, 20 minute strength training every know, 20 minute strength training every know, 20 minute strength training every now and again. now and again. now and again. &gt;&gt; Well, I'm I'm really glad you called in. &gt;&gt; Well, I'm I'm really glad you called in. &gt;&gt; Well, I'm I'm really glad you called in. Uh, so there's a couple things. You did Uh, so there's a couple things. You did Uh, so there's a couple things. You did the the the majority of the work is the the the majority of the work is the the the majority of the work is before you get pregnant, which you did. before you get pregnant, which you did. before you get pregnant, which you did. You were fit. You were exercising. That You were fit. You were exercising. That You were fit. You were exercising. That makes the biggest impact. Here's the makes the biggest impact. Here's the makes the biggest impact. Here's the other thing, Alex, that you're not uh other thing, Alex, that you're not uh other thing, Alex, that you're not uh describing here um to people who don't describing here um to people who don't describing here um to people who don't understand. It's a lot on your body to understand. It's a lot on your body to understand. It's a lot on your body to have one baby. have one baby. have one baby. &gt;&gt; It's a lot a lot to have two babies &gt;&gt; It's a lot a lot to have two babies &gt;&gt; It's a lot a lot to have two babies within a year of each other. within a year of each other. within a year of each other. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; It's a radical change uh on the body. &gt;&gt; It's a radical change uh on the body. &gt;&gt; It's a radical change uh on the body. And a woman's body doesn't fully recover And a woman's body doesn't fully recover And a woman's body doesn't fully recover &gt;&gt; for probably two years. And so you are &gt;&gt; for probably two years. And so you are &gt;&gt; for probably two years. And so you are six months later, boom, pregnant again. six months later, boom, pregnant again. six months later, boom, pregnant again. &gt;&gt; Right? &gt;&gt; Right? &gt;&gt; Right? &gt;&gt; So I can I can tell you this. You're &gt;&gt; So I can I can tell you this. You're &gt;&gt; So I can I can tell you this. You're going to do fine unless you push it. going to do fine unless you push it. going to do fine unless you push it. Unless you're not patient. Unless you're not patient. Unless you're not patient. &gt;&gt; You got to do less than you think. &gt;&gt; You got to do less than you think. &gt;&gt; You got to do less than you think. &gt;&gt; Okay? and assume your body's not the &gt;&gt; Okay? and assume your body's not the &gt;&gt; Okay? and assume your body's not the same for probably two years after your same for probably two years after your same for probably two years after your last child. last child. last child. &gt;&gt; Yep. Okay. Yeah. I'm about a year. So, &gt;&gt; Yep. Okay. Yeah. I'm about a year. So, &gt;&gt; Yep. Okay. Yeah. I'm about a year. So, she's about a year and a half. I have she's about a year and a half. I have she's about a year and a half. I have two kids. I have a son who's three and two kids. I have a son who's three and two kids. I have a son who's three and my daughter who's a year and a half. So, my daughter who's a year and a half. So, my daughter who's a year and a half. So, &gt;&gt; Okay. You're getting there. You're &gt;&gt; Okay. You're getting there. You're &gt;&gt; Okay. You're getting there. You're close. So, close. So, close. So, &gt;&gt; I I I feel that fog kind of lifting, &gt;&gt; I I I feel that fog kind of lifting, &gt;&gt; I I I feel that fog kind of lifting, right? Like it's, you know, my right? Like it's, you know, my right? Like it's, you know, my independence is coming back a little independence is coming back a little independence is coming back a little bit. I'm feeling like I, you know, I'm bit. I'm feeling like I, you know, I'm bit. I'm feeling like I, you know, I'm ready to go. I want to get that ready to go. I want to get that ready to go. I want to get that endurance back. Um, but obviously my endurance back. Um, but obviously my endurance back. Um, but obviously my nervous system takes a lot of shots nervous system takes a lot of shots nervous system takes a lot of shots during the day. So, during the day. So, during the day. So, &gt;&gt; um, just trying to be realistic about &gt;&gt; um, just trying to be realistic about &gt;&gt; um, just trying to be realistic about really what can I accomplish. Um, really what can I accomplish. Um, really what can I accomplish. Um, &gt;&gt; are you open to flipping the focus at &gt;&gt; are you open to flipping the focus at &gt;&gt; are you open to flipping the focus at this point in your life right now on this point in your life right now on this point in your life right now on more of the strength training and less more of the strength training and less more of the strength training and less of the running where you're currently at of the running where you're currently at of the running where you're currently at and we can always pick more of the and we can always pick more of the and we can always pick more of the running up later on. Yeah, I mean I running up later on. Yeah, I mean I running up later on. Yeah, I mean I think you know I definitely have muscle think you know I definitely have muscle think you know I definitely have muscle that I have to rebuild and I know that I have to rebuild and I know that I have to rebuild and I know obviously strength training would would obviously strength training would would obviously strength training would would help me get there probably faster than help me get there probably faster than help me get there probably faster than just running and you know being able to just running and you know being able to just running and you know being able to focus on different areas of my body cuz focus on different areas of my body cuz focus on different areas of my body cuz I'm sure if you guys have you know your I'm sure if you guys have you know your I'm sure if you guys have you know your young kids you know you're using a lot young kids you know you're using a lot young kids you know you're using a lot of muscle to take care of them. So I'd of muscle to take care of them. So I'd of muscle to take care of them. So I'd love to kind of rebuild that. So for love to kind of rebuild that. So for love to kind of rebuild that. So for sure sure sure &gt;&gt; it's also so that's all true and then &gt;&gt; it's also so that's all true and then &gt;&gt; it's also so that's all true and then also it's the amount of time it takes to also it's the amount of time it takes to also it's the amount of time it takes to run long distance versus how little run long distance versus how little run long distance versus how little strength training you need to do to strength training you need to do to strength training you need to do to build your body and strength back. You build your body and strength back. You build your body and strength back. You could we could literally spend 15 could we could literally spend 15 could we could literally spend 15 minutes a day doing one or two exercises minutes a day doing one or two exercises minutes a day doing one or two exercises for your body for your body for your body &gt;&gt; that are is going to do wonders for &gt;&gt; that are is going to do wonders for &gt;&gt; that are is going to do wonders for getting you back to feeling like your getting you back to feeling like your getting you back to feeling like your normal self where uh the running for normal self where uh the running for normal self where uh the running for half hours to hours at a time is a lot half hours to hours at a time is a lot half hours to hours at a time is a lot of time and that's a lot for very little of time and that's a lot for very little of time and that's a lot for very little return return return &gt;&gt; on in your pursuit. &gt;&gt; on in your pursuit. &gt;&gt; on in your pursuit. &gt;&gt; I I hate running postpartum. It's the &gt;&gt; I I hate running postpartum. It's the &gt;&gt; I I hate running postpartum. It's the worst because it's high impact. your worst because it's high impact. your worst because it's high impact. your pelvic floor pelvic floor pelvic floor &gt;&gt; uh muscles need to get strengthened. &gt;&gt; uh muscles need to get strengthened. &gt;&gt; uh muscles need to get strengthened. &gt;&gt; The recruitment patterns need to come &gt;&gt; The recruitment patterns need to come &gt;&gt; The recruitment patterns need to come back. You need to strengthen your body back. You need to strengthen your body back. You need to strengthen your body &gt;&gt; everything. &gt;&gt; everything. &gt;&gt; everything. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You do that impact and you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. You do that impact and you're &gt;&gt; Yeah. You do that impact and you're going to find issues with your pelvic going to find issues with your pelvic going to find issues with your pelvic floor either through injury floor either through injury floor either through injury &gt;&gt; or other things that happen when you &gt;&gt; or other things that happen when you &gt;&gt; or other things that happen when you bounce up and down after having a baby bounce up and down after having a baby bounce up and down after having a baby and and you'll and so and and you'll and so and and you'll and so &gt;&gt; so I don't like I never liked running &gt;&gt; so I don't like I never liked running &gt;&gt; so I don't like I never liked running postpartum until we did a nice bout of postpartum until we did a nice bout of postpartum until we did a nice bout of correctional exercise. Mhm. And correctional exercise. Mhm. And correctional exercise. Mhm. And &gt;&gt; so, uh, we have a program that's &gt;&gt; so, uh, we have a program that's &gt;&gt; so, uh, we have a program that's perfect. It's called Matt's Starter. perfect. It's called Matt's Starter. perfect. It's called Matt's Starter. &gt;&gt; I'm going to send that to you. Don't &gt;&gt; I'm going to send that to you. Don't &gt;&gt; I'm going to send that to you. Don't worry, I'll send it to you worry, I'll send it to you worry, I'll send it to you &gt;&gt; and it's going to feel basic. It's going &gt;&gt; and it's going to feel basic. It's going &gt;&gt; and it's going to feel basic. It's going to feel easy. That's the point. to feel easy. That's the point. to feel easy. That's the point. &gt;&gt; I want you to focus on bracing your &gt;&gt; I want you to focus on bracing your &gt;&gt; I want you to focus on bracing your core. I want you to focus on connecting core. I want you to focus on connecting core. I want you to focus on connecting to your pelvic floor while you're doing to your pelvic floor while you're doing to your pelvic floor while you're doing these exercises. uh like you're doing these exercises. uh like you're doing these exercises. uh like you're doing kind of a keull while you're doing your kind of a keull while you're doing your kind of a keull while you're doing your movements to strengthen the the the the movements to strengthen the the the the movements to strengthen the the the the muscles that have changed uh in terms of muscles that have changed uh in terms of muscles that have changed uh in terms of the recruitment patterns the recruitment patterns the recruitment patterns &gt;&gt; and a map starter is a good three &gt;&gt; and a map starter is a good three &gt;&gt; and a map starter is a good three months. months. months. &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; nice. &gt;&gt; nice. &gt;&gt; nice. &gt;&gt; So do that whole program for 3 months. &gt;&gt; So do that whole program for 3 months. &gt;&gt; So do that whole program for 3 months. &gt;&gt; After MAP starter, you're going to do &gt;&gt; After MAP starter, you're going to do &gt;&gt; After MAP starter, you're going to do MAPS 15. MAPS 15. MAPS 15. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Maps 15 is another three months. &gt;&gt; Maps 15 is another three months. &gt;&gt; Maps 15 is another three months. &gt;&gt; After that, if you feel good, then you &gt;&gt; After that, if you feel good, then you &gt;&gt; After that, if you feel good, then you can move to something like MAPS can move to something like MAPS can move to something like MAPS anabolic. anabolic. anabolic. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Okay. Now, the entire time your body's &gt;&gt; Okay. Now, the entire time your body's &gt;&gt; Okay. Now, the entire time your body's going to change. So, I don't want you to going to change. So, I don't want you to going to change. So, I don't want you to think like, "Oh, I'm doing this basic think like, "Oh, I'm doing this basic think like, "Oh, I'm doing this basic thing, nothing." You're going to see thing, nothing." You're going to see thing, nothing." You're going to see your body change. your body change. your body change. &gt;&gt; Fight the urge to do more than the &gt;&gt; Fight the urge to do more than the &gt;&gt; Fight the urge to do more than the program because you're going to start to program because you're going to start to program because you're going to start to feel good, which is a good sign, and feel good, which is a good sign, and feel good, which is a good sign, and then you're going to be like, "I want to then you're going to be like, "I want to then you're going to be like, "I want to do more." This is a lot of the opposite do more." This is a lot of the opposite do more." This is a lot of the opposite of your natural tendency, especially of your natural tendency, especially of your natural tendency, especially being a runner, uh, going into this being a runner, uh, going into this being a runner, uh, going into this really slowing down and like using tempo really slowing down and like using tempo really slowing down and like using tempo is your friend here for like really slow is your friend here for like really slow is your friend here for like really slow reps and like focusing on that tension, reps and like focusing on that tension, reps and like focusing on that tension, control, and connection. And so if you control, and connection. And so if you control, and connection. And so if you can do these reps super slow pace with can do these reps super slow pace with can do these reps super slow pace with that, that's going to move you so much that, that's going to move you so much that, that's going to move you so much further towards now feeling like further towards now feeling like further towards now feeling like yourself again and able-bodied. I'm a yourself again and able-bodied. I'm a yourself again and able-bodied. I'm a big fan of pushing the stroller and big fan of pushing the stroller and big fan of pushing the stroller and going for a walk. Just no running out. going for a walk. Just no running out. going for a walk. Just no running out. That's that's what you do for more That's that's what you do for more That's that's what you do for more activity if you got, you know, the activity if you got, you know, the activity if you got, you know, the ability to take the kids out, go for a ability to take the kids out, go for a ability to take the kids out, go for a nice walk, do stuff like that. nice walk, do stuff like that. nice walk, do stuff like that. &gt;&gt; Uh but stick to the strength training &gt;&gt; Uh but stick to the strength training &gt;&gt; Uh but stick to the strength training protocol. And if you are somebody who protocol. And if you are somebody who protocol. And if you are somebody who does have good discipline and you're and does have good discipline and you're and does have good discipline and you're and you pride yourself on that uh similar to you pride yourself on that uh similar to you pride yourself on that uh similar to my wife, what I had to keep telling her my wife, what I had to keep telling her my wife, what I had to keep telling her through Mapstarter is this is perfect. through Mapstarter is this is perfect. through Mapstarter is this is perfect. This is enough. You don't need more. This is enough. You don't need more. This is enough. You don't need more. Just keep tr trust me. I know what I'm Just keep tr trust me. I know what I'm Just keep tr trust me. I know what I'm doing. And so she kept telling me, I'm doing. And so she kept telling me, I'm doing. And so she kept telling me, I'm ready. I'm ready. I feel good. Yeah. And ready. I'm ready. I feel good. Yeah. And ready. I'm ready. I feel good. Yeah. And so, uh, you know, be that person in your so, uh, you know, be that person in your so, uh, you know, be that person in your own ear if you or find somebody to be own ear if you or find somebody to be own ear if you or find somebody to be that person in your ear to tell you that that person in your ear to tell you that that person in your ear to tell you that as you go through this process. Just as you go through this process. Just as you go through this process. Just like Sal said, follow that out. You go like Sal said, follow that out. You go like Sal said, follow that out. You go starter all the way through as it's laid starter all the way through as it's laid starter all the way through as it's laid out. Not more than what is in there. out. Not more than what is in there. out. Not more than what is in there. Then you go from there to max 15 as it's Then you go from there to max 15 as it's Then you go from there to max 15 as it's laid out. Not more from there. And the laid out. Not more from there. And the laid out. Not more from there. And the only thing that's more is walks. You can only thing that's more is walks. You can only thing that's more is walks. You can go take walk. All good for that. But you go take walk. All good for that. But you go take walk. All good for that. But you do that. Focus on hitting your protein do that. Focus on hitting your protein do that. Focus on hitting your protein intake and feeding the nourishing the intake and feeding the nourishing the intake and feeding the nourishing the body right now and you're you'll be back body right now and you're you'll be back body right now and you're you'll be back in no time. in no time. in no time. &gt;&gt; Are you nursing? Are you are you not? &gt;&gt; Are you nursing? Are you are you not? &gt;&gt; Are you nursing? Are you are you not? &gt;&gt; No, I'm fully weaned off of it now. So &gt;&gt; No, I'm fully weaned off of it now. So &gt;&gt; No, I'm fully weaned off of it now. So body's back to just me for the first body's back to just me for the first body's back to just me for the first time in, you know, quite a long time. time in, you know, quite a long time. time in, you know, quite a long time. &gt;&gt; Good. Do you take creatine? &gt;&gt; Good. Do you take creatine? &gt;&gt; Good. Do you take creatine? &gt;&gt; Um, I do. I I the past I would say two &gt;&gt; Um, I do. I I the past I would say two &gt;&gt; Um, I do. I I the past I would say two months I've taken it consistently. months I've taken it consistently. months I've taken it consistently. &gt;&gt; Good. How many grams a day are you &gt;&gt; Good. How many grams a day are you &gt;&gt; Good. How many grams a day are you taking? taking? taking? &gt;&gt; I'm doing five right now. &gt;&gt; I'm doing five right now. &gt;&gt; I'm doing five right now. &gt;&gt; Yeah, try 10. &gt;&gt; Yeah, try 10. &gt;&gt; Yeah, try 10. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Try 10 for the brain. &gt;&gt; Try 10 for the brain. &gt;&gt; Try 10 for the brain. &gt;&gt; Break it out. Two doses. Uh, so yeah, &gt;&gt; Break it out. Two doses. Uh, so yeah, &gt;&gt; Break it out. Two doses. Uh, so yeah, that'll be good for brain. And then do that'll be good for brain. And then do that'll be good for brain. And then do you hit your body your target body you hit your body your target body you hit your body your target body weight and protein? weight and protein? weight and protein? &gt;&gt; So that's what I that's been my main &gt;&gt; So that's what I that's been my main &gt;&gt; So that's what I that's been my main focus. You know, I know I'm eating the focus. You know, I know I'm eating the focus. You know, I know I'm eating the kids scraps right now. I know, kids scraps right now. I know, kids scraps right now. I know, you know, focus on getting what I really you know, focus on getting what I really you know, focus on getting what I really truly need to fuel myself. truly need to fuel myself. truly need to fuel myself. And that was something I wanted to ask And that was something I wanted to ask And that was something I wanted to ask you guys. I I don't really have like a you guys. I I don't really have like a you guys. I I don't really have like a weight target, right? Like I don't I weight target, right? Like I don't I weight target, right? Like I don't I don't necessarily feel awful right now. don't necessarily feel awful right now. don't necessarily feel awful right now. You know, I'm I'm I just want to build You know, I'm I'm I just want to build You know, I'm I'm I just want to build muscle. So, should I kind of hit that muscle. So, should I kind of hit that muscle. So, should I kind of hit that protein for the weight that I'm protein for the weight that I'm protein for the weight that I'm currently at, or do you think I should currently at, or do you think I should currently at, or do you think I should try to Where you at right now? try to Where you at right now? try to Where you at right now? &gt;&gt; Yeah. How tall are you and how much you &gt;&gt; Yeah. How tall are you and how much you &gt;&gt; Yeah. How tall are you and how much you weigh? So, I'm 5'4 and I'm 135. That's weigh? So, I'm 5'4 and I'm 135. That's weigh? So, I'm 5'4 and I'm 135. That's fine. Yeah. 130. fine. Yeah. 130. fine. Yeah. 130. &gt;&gt; Yeah. 130 grams of protein. &gt;&gt; Yeah. 130 grams of protein. &gt;&gt; Yeah. 130 grams of protein. &gt;&gt; Yep. It's a good target. &gt;&gt; Yep. It's a good target. &gt;&gt; Yep. It's a good target. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, here's what you go. 35 &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, here's what you go. 35 &gt;&gt; Yeah. You know, here's what you go. 35 to 40 grams of protein. Breakfast, to 40 grams of protein. Breakfast, to 40 grams of protein. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Throw in a shake. lunch, and dinner. Throw in a shake. lunch, and dinner. Throw in a shake. You're done. You're done. You're done. &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y &gt;&gt; Y like you said, hit that consistently. like you said, hit that consistently. like you said, hit that consistently. That paired with starter in the That paired with starter in the That paired with starter in the programs. That's programs. That's programs. That's &gt;&gt; I'm going to warn you again, Alex. If &gt;&gt; I'm going to warn you again, Alex. If &gt;&gt; I'm going to warn you again, Alex. If you follow our advice and you start you follow our advice and you start you follow our advice and you start hitting the protein targets and you're hitting the protein targets and you're hitting the protein targets and you're following starter, two to 3 weeks in, following starter, two to 3 weeks in, following starter, two to 3 weeks in, you're going to feel like superwoman and you're going to feel like superwoman and you're going to feel like superwoman and you're going to want to push it. Yeah, you're going to want to push it. Yeah, you're going to want to push it. Yeah, &gt;&gt; you're going to you're going to be like, &gt;&gt; you're going to you're going to be like, &gt;&gt; you're going to you're going to be like, "I know he said this, but I feel "I know he said this, but I feel "I know he said this, but I feel amazing. I'm going to get after it." And amazing. I'm going to get after it." And amazing. I'm going to get after it." And you'll and then that's where stuff you'll and then that's where stuff you'll and then that's where stuff starts to break down. So, just follow starts to break down. So, just follow starts to break down. So, just follow it. Just trust it it. Just trust it it. Just trust it &gt;&gt; and you'll see your body's going to &gt;&gt; and you'll see your body's going to &gt;&gt; and you'll see your body's going to respond. You'll feel amazing. It'll be a respond. You'll feel amazing. It'll be a respond. You'll feel amazing. It'll be a perfect progression. perfect progression. perfect progression. &gt;&gt; Goal is to do as little as possible to &gt;&gt; Goal is to do as little as possible to &gt;&gt; Goal is to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change. That's elicit the most amount of change. That's elicit the most amount of change. That's what you're doing. Just as little. what you're doing. Just as little. what you're doing. Just as little. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I am home with my kids. I'm a &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I am home with my kids. I'm a &gt;&gt; Yeah. And I am home with my kids. I'm a stay-at-home mom, so I know a lot of my stay-at-home mom, so I know a lot of my stay-at-home mom, so I know a lot of my energy also goes there. So, I need to I energy also goes there. So, I need to I energy also goes there. So, I need to I think I'll have the same problem as your think I'll have the same problem as your think I'll have the same problem as your wife trying to slow myself down. wife trying to slow myself down. wife trying to slow myself down. Do you have do you have weights at home? Do you have do you have weights at home? Do you have do you have weights at home? &gt;&gt; Yes. You have, you know, like a full gym &gt;&gt; Yes. You have, you know, like a full gym &gt;&gt; Yes. You have, you know, like a full gym set up, my husband and I. set up, my husband and I. set up, my husband and I. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're set. That's awesome. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're set. That's awesome. &gt;&gt; Oh, you're set. That's awesome. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Starter's easy, too. You just need &gt;&gt; Yeah. Starter's easy, too. You just need &gt;&gt; Yeah. Starter's easy, too. You just need a physio ball and then you're done. You a physio ball and then you're done. You a physio ball and then you're done. You got the rest of it and you're good. got the rest of it and you're good. got the rest of it and you're good. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Nice. Okay. &gt;&gt; Nice. Okay. &gt;&gt; Nice. Okay. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Yep. &gt;&gt; Cool. &gt;&gt; Cool. &gt;&gt; Cool. &gt;&gt; You're going to do great. &gt;&gt; You're going to do great. &gt;&gt; You're going to do great. &gt;&gt; Good job. You want to check back in? You &gt;&gt; Good job. You want to check back in? You &gt;&gt; Good job. You want to check back in? You want to check in in like 3 months? want to check in in like 3 months? want to check in in like 3 months? &gt;&gt; Awesome. I'd love to. I appreciate you &gt;&gt; Awesome. I'd love to. I appreciate you &gt;&gt; Awesome. I'd love to. I appreciate you guys so much. And you guys have been a guys so much. And you guys have been a guys so much. And you guys have been a great podcast. It's been nice to listen great podcast. It's been nice to listen great podcast. It's been nice to listen to you guys and have, you know, to you guys and have, you know, to you guys and have, you know, realistic, you know, advice for where I realistic, you know, advice for where I realistic, you know, advice for where I am in my life. am in my life. am in my life. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Good. We'll have you on in 3 &gt;&gt; Yeah. Good. We'll have you on in 3 &gt;&gt; Yeah. Good. We'll have you on in 3 months and then based off that we'll months and then based off that we'll months and then based off that we'll send you another program so you don't send you another program so you don't send you another program so you don't have to get it. All right. have to get it. All right. have to get it. All right. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; Okay. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; All right. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; Awesome. &gt;&gt; All right. We'll see you then. &gt;&gt; All right. We'll see you then. &gt;&gt; All right. We'll see you then. &gt;&gt; You got it. See you. &gt;&gt; You got it. See you. &gt;&gt; You got it. See you. &gt;&gt; Byebye. I'm glad you called in. &gt;&gt; Byebye. I'm glad you called in. &gt;&gt; Byebye. I'm glad you called in. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; It's uh um I I I've been speaking to &gt;&gt; It's uh um I I I've been speaking to &gt;&gt; It's uh um I I I've been speaking to this a few times now on the the most this a few times now on the the most this a few times now on the the most recent podcast, but there's so much recent podcast, but there's so much recent podcast, but there's so much misleading information to misleading information to misleading information to &gt;&gt; women who've had children and it comes &gt;&gt; women who've had children and it comes &gt;&gt; women who've had children and it comes from these fitness uh fanatic from these fitness uh fanatic from these fitness uh fanatic influencers that are like, "I just had influencers that are like, "I just had influencers that are like, "I just had my baby six months ago. Look at me." my baby six months ago. Look at me." my baby six months ago. Look at me." &gt;&gt; No, it takes a while, dude. It takes way &gt;&gt; No, it takes a while, dude. It takes way &gt;&gt; No, it takes a while, dude. It takes way longer than they communicate. And then longer than they communicate. And then longer than they communicate. And then if you have babies back to back, which 6 if you have babies back to back, which 6 if you have babies back to back, which 6 months is back to back, months is back to back, months is back to back, &gt;&gt; uh that'll do a number of the body go &gt;&gt; uh that'll do a number of the body go &gt;&gt; uh that'll do a number of the body go through and your pelvic floor muscles through and your pelvic floor muscles through and your pelvic floor muscles &gt;&gt; really get affected. Okay. Not just from &gt;&gt; really get affected. Okay. Not just from &gt;&gt; really get affected. Okay. Not just from the delivery, but just from the the delivery, but just from the the delivery, but just from the stretching and the the growing baby. And stretching and the the growing baby. And stretching and the the growing baby. And so this is where you hear the, you know, so this is where you hear the, you know, so this is where you hear the, you know, women will say things like, "Oh, I do a women will say things like, "Oh, I do a women will say things like, "Oh, I do a jumping jack and I pee myself or jumping jack and I pee myself or jumping jack and I pee myself or whatever." Running postpartum, terrible. whatever." Running postpartum, terrible. whatever." Running postpartum, terrible. Strengthen your pelvic floor first Strengthen your pelvic floor first Strengthen your pelvic floor first before you go run because that's an before you go run because that's an before you go run because that's an injury waiting. injury waiting. injury waiting. &gt;&gt; Isn't uh Karen working on a postpartum &gt;&gt; Isn't uh Karen working on a postpartum &gt;&gt; Isn't uh Karen working on a postpartum guide right now? guide right now? guide right now? &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Hopefully, it'll be &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Hopefully, it'll be &gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Hopefully, it'll be all soon. all soon. all soon. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Sarah from Tennessee. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Sarah from Tennessee. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Sarah from Tennessee. &gt;&gt; Hi, Sarah. How you doing, Sarah? Hello. &gt;&gt; Hi, Sarah. How you doing, Sarah? Hello. &gt;&gt; Hi, Sarah. How you doing, Sarah? Hello. &gt;&gt; Oh my gosh, this is so awesome. Thank &gt;&gt; Oh my gosh, this is so awesome. Thank &gt;&gt; Oh my gosh, this is so awesome. Thank you guys so much for all the awesome you guys so much for all the awesome you guys so much for all the awesome content. You guys have taught me so content. You guys have taught me so content. You guys have taught me so much. Um, okay, so my question is, how much. Um, okay, so my question is, how much. Um, okay, so my question is, how can I safely fast without compromising can I safely fast without compromising can I safely fast without compromising muscle? Um, I've been an athlete my muscle? Um, I've been an athlete my muscle? Um, I've been an athlete my whole life and I've actually been doing whole life and I've actually been doing whole life and I've actually been doing Jesse Hilenberg's programs. It's like I Jesse Hilenberg's programs. It's like I Jesse Hilenberg's programs. It's like I well I found her 16 years ago and um so well I found her 16 years ago and um so well I found her 16 years ago and um so I count my macros and all that but I'm I count my macros and all that but I'm I count my macros and all that but I'm not super religious about it. I mainly not super religious about it. I mainly not super religious about it. I mainly track my protein but I will say when I track my protein but I will say when I track my protein but I will say when I track macros I do much better at like track macros I do much better at like track macros I do much better at like actually eating all the food I need to actually eating all the food I need to actually eating all the food I need to eat. Um, I used to fast once a week, eat. Um, I used to fast once a week, eat. Um, I used to fast once a week, um, kind of more for spiritual um, kind of more for spiritual um, kind of more for spiritual practices, but then as I've gotten practices, but then as I've gotten practices, but then as I've gotten older, I've become more concerned about older, I've become more concerned about older, I've become more concerned about losing muscle mass. And I do feel like losing muscle mass. And I do feel like losing muscle mass. And I do feel like my spiritual life does better when I my spiritual life does better when I my spiritual life does better when I have some kind of fasting in my life. have some kind of fasting in my life. have some kind of fasting in my life. Um, the last time I did a fast, I mainly Um, the last time I did a fast, I mainly Um, the last time I did a fast, I mainly did like I it was gross. I did. I wanted did like I it was gross. I did. I wanted did like I it was gross. I did. I wanted to get all my macros. So, like I to get all my macros. So, like I to get all my macros. So, like I basically did like oil like I would basically did like oil like I would basically did like oil like I would drink protein shakes with like oil or drink protein shakes with like oil or drink protein shakes with like oil or juice in them. Um I mean it did the juice in them. Um I mean it did the juice in them. Um I mean it did the trick. But if you guys have any uh tips trick. But if you guys have any uh tips trick. But if you guys have any uh tips for me, I would welcome anything that for me, I would welcome anything that for me, I would welcome anything that you guys have. you guys have. you guys have. &gt;&gt; Yeah, this is a great question. Sarah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, this is a great question. Sarah, &gt;&gt; Yeah, this is a great question. Sarah, are you is it are you Christian? are you is it are you Christian? are you is it are you Christian? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I am. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I am. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I am. &gt;&gt; Okay. If you're fasting for the for &gt;&gt; Okay. If you're fasting for the for &gt;&gt; Okay. If you're fasting for the for spiritual purposes, right, which is um spiritual purposes, right, which is um spiritual purposes, right, which is um denying yourself, denying the flesh, denying yourself, denying the flesh, denying yourself, denying the flesh, &gt;&gt; and you're trying to circumvent that &gt;&gt; and you're trying to circumvent that &gt;&gt; and you're trying to circumvent that with but I'm going to do this thing over with but I'm going to do this thing over with but I'm going to do this thing over here to not lose muscle, then don't then here to not lose muscle, then don't then here to not lose muscle, then don't then don't do the fast. don't do the fast. don't do the fast. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I get that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I get that. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I get that. &gt;&gt; If it's if it's if it's a form of &gt;&gt; If it's if it's if it's a form of &gt;&gt; If it's if it's if it's a form of submission, submission, submission, &gt;&gt; um you know, God knows your heart. And &gt;&gt; um you know, God knows your heart. And &gt;&gt; um you know, God knows your heart. And so from a spiritual perspective, if it's so from a spiritual perspective, if it's so from a spiritual perspective, if it's for spiritual purposes, if you're for spiritual purposes, if you're for spiritual purposes, if you're worried about the muscle loss and you're worried about the muscle loss and you're worried about the muscle loss and you're trying to hack it somehow and figure out trying to hack it somehow and figure out trying to hack it somehow and figure out how to get around it, it's like, you how to get around it, it's like, you how to get around it, it's like, you know what it reminds me of? It's like know what it reminds me of? It's like know what it reminds me of? It's like teenagers, uh, you know, not having sex, teenagers, uh, you know, not having sex, teenagers, uh, you know, not having sex, but doing everything else but doing everything else but doing everything else &gt;&gt; because they're like, well, that's we're &gt;&gt; because they're like, well, that's we're &gt;&gt; because they're like, well, that's we're not supposed to do that, so we'll do not supposed to do that, so we'll do not supposed to do that, so we'll do this other stuff. this other stuff. this other stuff. &gt;&gt; So my my advice is don't fast. &gt;&gt; So my my advice is don't fast. &gt;&gt; So my my advice is don't fast. &gt;&gt; Um, but if you're doing it for f for &gt;&gt; Um, but if you're doing it for f for &gt;&gt; Um, but if you're doing it for f for spiritual purposes, then just then just spiritual purposes, then just then just spiritual purposes, then just then just do it. And and honestly, it's not going do it. And and honestly, it's not going do it. And and honestly, it's not going to make that. to make that. to make that. &gt;&gt; Well, I was going to say that's the also &gt;&gt; Well, I was going to say that's the also &gt;&gt; Well, I was going to say that's the also Sarah, keep in mind if you are six days Sarah, keep in mind if you are six days Sarah, keep in mind if you are six days a week, you hit macros, lift weights, do a week, you hit macros, lift weights, do a week, you hit macros, lift weights, do your thing, one day of fasting, you are your thing, one day of fasting, you are your thing, one day of fasting, you are not losing muscle. You're not losing not losing muscle. You're not losing not losing muscle. You're not losing muscle. muscle. muscle. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; You don't have if you if you if you hit &gt;&gt; You don't have if you if you if you hit &gt;&gt; You don't have if you if you if you hit macros, especially your protein intake, macros, especially your protein intake, macros, especially your protein intake, uh let's say you don't even hit all your uh let's say you don't even hit all your uh let's say you don't even hit all your macros, but you hit your protein intake macros, but you hit your protein intake macros, but you hit your protein intake consistently through the week and you're consistently through the week and you're consistently through the week and you're lifting weights, you're fine. lifting weights, you're fine. lifting weights, you're fine. &gt;&gt; You are fine to not eat anything and &gt;&gt; You are fine to not eat anything and &gt;&gt; You are fine to not eat anything and have nothing but water all day for a day have nothing but water all day for a day have nothing but water all day for a day and you're not going to compromise and you're not going to compromise and you're not going to compromise muscle. You will not. you'll be just muscle. You will not. you'll be just muscle. You will not. you'll be just fine. fine. fine. &gt;&gt; You'll be you'll be totally fine. Yes. &gt;&gt; You'll be you'll be totally fine. Yes. &gt;&gt; You'll be you'll be totally fine. Yes. So, there's nothing for you to worry So, there's nothing for you to worry So, there's nothing for you to worry about about about &gt;&gt; uh from that. Now, if you rarely ever &gt;&gt; uh from that. Now, if you rarely ever &gt;&gt; uh from that. Now, if you rarely ever hit protein intake and miss macros and hit protein intake and miss macros and hit protein intake and miss macros and then you also add a fast on there, then then you also add a fast on there, then then you also add a fast on there, then okay, then we But it's not the fast okay, then we But it's not the fast okay, then we But it's not the fast fault. I'd say it's more because you're fault. I'd say it's more because you're fault. I'd say it's more because you're inconsistent with hitting macros and inconsistent with hitting macros and inconsistent with hitting macros and your protein the rest of the week that's your protein the rest of the week that's your protein the rest of the week that's that's really doing the damage. So, that's really doing the damage. So, that's really doing the damage. So, that's where as long as you're that's where as long as you're that's where as long as you're consistent and doing good with that, the consistent and doing good with that, the consistent and doing good with that, the fast is fine. And maybe that's how I fast is fine. And maybe that's how I fast is fine. And maybe that's how I would decide if I was going to do a fast would decide if I was going to do a fast would decide if I was going to do a fast on Sunday is like I or whatever day it on Sunday is like I or whatever day it on Sunday is like I or whatever day it is. It's like, "Hey, I did really good is. It's like, "Hey, I did really good is. It's like, "Hey, I did really good this week. I got my lifting in. I hit my this week. I got my lifting in. I hit my this week. I got my lifting in. I hit my macros. You know what? Now I'm on on macros. You know what? Now I'm on on macros. You know what? Now I'm on on Sunday or whatever. I'm going to fast." Sunday or whatever. I'm going to fast." Sunday or whatever. I'm going to fast." Like that's a great idea. Not a great Like that's a great idea. Not a great Like that's a great idea. Not a great idea if you're inconsistent with your idea if you're inconsistent with your idea if you're inconsistent with your eating in. eating in. eating in. &gt;&gt; There's also other ways to fast, too. I &gt;&gt; There's also other ways to fast, too. I &gt;&gt; There's also other ways to fast, too. I mean, you can fast from food. You can mean, you can fast from food. You can mean, you can fast from food. You can fast from electronics. You could fast fast from electronics. You could fast fast from electronics. You could fast from from from &gt;&gt; gossip or whatever. There's other ways &gt;&gt; gossip or whatever. There's other ways &gt;&gt; gossip or whatever. There's other ways to fast if you're doing it for spiritual to fast if you're doing it for spiritual to fast if you're doing it for spiritual purposes. purposes. purposes. &gt;&gt; That's right. That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. That's right. &gt;&gt; That's right. That's right. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I definitely feel like fasting &gt;&gt; Yeah. I definitely feel like fasting &gt;&gt; Yeah. I definitely feel like fasting from food is like it definitely helps me from food is like it definitely helps me from food is like it definitely helps me feel more grounded. Um I've done water feel more grounded. Um I've done water feel more grounded. Um I've done water fast too and I felt really grounded for fast too and I felt really grounded for fast too and I felt really grounded for the rest of the week and I'm very the rest of the week and I'm very the rest of the week and I'm very disciplined with my well I'm disciplined disciplined with my well I'm disciplined disciplined with my well I'm disciplined in general but I really like like in general but I really like like in general but I really like like hitting my macros. I like getting those hitting my macros. I like getting those hitting my macros. I like getting those goals every day. But um I'm glad to hear goals every day. But um I'm glad to hear goals every day. But um I'm glad to hear that it's not really going to make that that it's not really going to make that that it's not really going to make that big of a difference because as a woman I big of a difference because as a woman I big of a difference because as a woman I will say that you guys constantly will say that you guys constantly will say that you guys constantly telling us that um you know we don't telling us that um you know we don't telling us that um you know we don't need to be overtraining and undereing need to be overtraining and undereing need to be overtraining and undereing that has really impacted me a lot and my that has really impacted me a lot and my that has really impacted me a lot and my hormone levels have been so much better hormone levels have been so much better hormone levels have been so much better since I have eaten consistently and the since I have eaten consistently and the since I have eaten consistently and the week before menration when I'm normally week before menration when I'm normally week before menration when I'm normally like insane. like insane. like insane. It has completely like alleviated that. It has completely like alleviated that. It has completely like alleviated that. So, I think there's like a fear here of So, I think there's like a fear here of So, I think there's like a fear here of like, okay, if I take one day off a like, okay, if I take one day off a like, okay, if I take one day off a week, am I going to be insane because I week, am I going to be insane because I week, am I going to be insane because I took that one day off, you know? took that one day off, you know? took that one day off, you know? &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, you're you're going to be &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, you're you're going to be &gt;&gt; Yeah. No, you're you're going to be good, Sarah. Especially if you're really good, Sarah. Especially if you're really good, Sarah. Especially if you're really good about doing the other stuff the good about doing the other stuff the good about doing the other stuff the rest of the week, you're going to be rest of the week, you're going to be rest of the week, you're going to be good. In fact, you're going to get great good. In fact, you're going to get great good. In fact, you're going to get great benefits from it. benefits from it. benefits from it. &gt;&gt; And if you do feel if you do feel like &gt;&gt; And if you do feel if you do feel like &gt;&gt; And if you do feel if you do feel like it's not great, then then I would say it's not great, then then I would say it's not great, then then I would say try other fasts. try other fasts. try other fasts. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; You know, cuz everybody's a little &gt;&gt; You know, cuz everybody's a little &gt;&gt; You know, cuz everybody's a little different. But I think you'll be all different. But I think you'll be all different. But I think you'll be all right. right. right. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I love fasting from tech. I think &gt;&gt; Yeah. I love fasting from tech. I think &gt;&gt; Yeah. I love fasting from tech. I think tech for a day. No tech, no phone and no tech for a day. No tech, no phone and no tech for a day. No tech, no phone and no tech. Such tech. Such tech. Such &gt;&gt; a such a &gt;&gt; a such a &gt;&gt; a such a &gt;&gt; Same here because I could I could fast &gt;&gt; Same here because I could I could fast &gt;&gt; Same here because I could I could fast from food way easier than staying away from food way easier than staying away from food way easier than staying away from the news, all that stuff. from the news, all that stuff. from the news, all that stuff. &gt;&gt; I think that stuff is just as nasty and &gt;&gt; I think that stuff is just as nasty and &gt;&gt; I think that stuff is just as nasty and dangerous for us and awful for us and dangerous for us and awful for us and dangerous for us and awful for us and such a good practice to do that. such a good practice to do that. such a good practice to do that. &gt;&gt; It's also harder for me. &gt;&gt; It's also harder for me. &gt;&gt; It's also harder for me. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I will say I'm a stay-at-home &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I will say I'm a stay-at-home &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I will say I'm a stay-at-home mom and I have the privilege of like we mom and I have the privilege of like we mom and I have the privilege of like we have a landline because my husband is have a landline because my husband is have a landline because my husband is like, "You're never I cannot reach you like, "You're never I cannot reach you like, "You're never I cannot reach you on your phone cuz my phone's normally on on your phone cuz my phone's normally on on your phone cuz my phone's normally on airplane mode." airplane mode." airplane mode." &gt;&gt; Great. Love that. Love that. &gt;&gt; Great. Love that. Love that. &gt;&gt; Great. Love that. Love that. &gt;&gt; Good for you. &gt;&gt; Good for you. &gt;&gt; Good for you. &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'm definitely in my own world &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'm definitely in my own world &gt;&gt; Yeah, I'm definitely in my own world here. here. here. &gt;&gt; That's good. That's a good thing. I like &gt;&gt; That's good. That's a good thing. I like &gt;&gt; That's good. That's a good thing. I like that. I like that. Yeah. that. I like that. Yeah. that. I like that. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. You'll be fine though, Sarah. If &gt;&gt; Yeah. You'll be fine though, Sarah. If &gt;&gt; Yeah. You'll be fine though, Sarah. If you're the fat fast one time a week, you're the fat fast one time a week, you're the fat fast one time a week, especially if you're hitting protein especially if you're hitting protein especially if you're hitting protein throughout the rest of the week, you throughout the rest of the week, you throughout the rest of the week, you you'll be just fine. you'll be just fine. you'll be just fine. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Okay. I appreciate your input. Thanks, &gt;&gt; Okay. I appreciate your input. Thanks, &gt;&gt; Okay. I appreciate your input. Thanks, guys. guys. guys. &gt;&gt; Got it. Thank you. &gt;&gt; Got it. Thank you. &gt;&gt; Got it. Thank you. &gt;&gt; Have a good one. &gt;&gt; Have a good one. &gt;&gt; Have a good one. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; It's so important when you ask somebody &gt;&gt; It's so important when you ask somebody &gt;&gt; It's so important when you ask somebody why they're fasting. You know, fasting why they're fasting. You know, fasting why they're fasting. You know, fasting for fat loss, bad idea. Fasting for for fat loss, bad idea. Fasting for for fat loss, bad idea. Fasting for whatever bad for spiritual purposes, whatever bad for spiritual purposes, whatever bad for spiritual purposes, there's lots of value. there's lots of value. there's lots of value. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; Sure. &gt;&gt; But then you got to be again, and by the &gt;&gt; But then you got to be again, and by the &gt;&gt; But then you got to be again, and by the way, I'm not speaking out of this way, I'm not speaking out of this way, I'm not speaking out of this because I'm perfect. This is the same because I'm perfect. This is the same because I'm perfect. This is the same struggle I have. You'll do something for struggle I have. You'll do something for struggle I have. You'll do something for spiritual purposes, but then what you'll spiritual purposes, but then what you'll spiritual purposes, but then what you'll do is try to control it do is try to control it do is try to control it &gt;&gt; and it loses its value because you're &gt;&gt; and it loses its value because you're &gt;&gt; and it loses its value because you're not justifying it somewhere else. It not justifying it somewhere else. It not justifying it somewhere else. It doesn't need to be. doesn't need to be. doesn't need to be. &gt;&gt; You're not giving it up. you're not &gt;&gt; You're not giving it up. you're not &gt;&gt; You're not giving it up. you're not going like this is for you. It's like going like this is for you. It's like going like this is for you. It's like well I'm going to do it but I'm going to well I'm going to do it but I'm going to well I'm going to do it but I'm going to control these levers so that I don't control these levers so that I don't control these levers so that I don't lose muscle so that I lose muscle so that I lose muscle so that I &gt;&gt; and like like you brought up fasting &gt;&gt; and like like you brought up fasting &gt;&gt; and like like you brought up fasting from electronics. Uh if you gave me the from electronics. Uh if you gave me the from electronics. Uh if you gave me the choice I would fast from food cuz choice I would fast from food cuz choice I would fast from food cuz electronics is way harder for me. electronics is way harder for me. electronics is way harder for me. &gt;&gt; So I know that that would be the one &gt;&gt; So I know that that would be the one &gt;&gt; So I know that that would be the one that probably that probably that probably &gt;&gt; right which is even more reason why if &gt;&gt; right which is even more reason why if &gt;&gt; right which is even more reason why if you're doing it for spiritual reasons you're doing it for spiritual reasons you're doing it for spiritual reasons that's the direction you go. So, I think that's the direction you go. So, I think that's the direction you go. So, I think anybody who knows that they have a a anybody who knows that they have a a anybody who knows that they have a a vice or a draw or a pull to something, vice or a draw or a pull to something, vice or a draw or a pull to something, especially something worldly, especially something worldly, especially something worldly, &gt;&gt; and you're doing it for spiritual &gt;&gt; and you're doing it for spiritual &gt;&gt; and you're doing it for spiritual reasons, it doesn't have to be food. reasons, it doesn't have to be food. reasons, it doesn't have to be food. Food food is just what what it was Food food is just what what it was Food food is just what what it was hundreds of years ago and it was so hundreds of years ago and it was so hundreds of years ago and it was so popular. It's like there's so many popular. It's like there's so many popular. It's like there's so many things today that you just be like, it's things today that you just be like, it's things today that you just be like, it's just supposed to be to interrupt, you just supposed to be to interrupt, you just supposed to be to interrupt, you know, what your normal daily routine is know, what your normal daily routine is know, what your normal daily routine is and so you could focus on, you know, and so you could focus on, you know, and so you could focus on, you know, higher things. higher things. higher things. &gt;&gt; But there are two ways this gets &gt;&gt; But there are two ways this gets &gt;&gt; But there are two ways this gets manipulated spiritually. one is the manipulated spiritually. one is the manipulated spiritually. one is the person who wants to restrict their food. person who wants to restrict their food. person who wants to restrict their food. And so then they use the fasting for And so then they use the fasting for And so then they use the fasting for spiritual purposes as an excuse, spiritual purposes as an excuse, spiritual purposes as an excuse, &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; right? &gt;&gt; I'm doing this for spiritual purposes. &gt;&gt; I'm doing this for spiritual purposes. &gt;&gt; I'm doing this for spiritual purposes. But really deep down, it's so I can But really deep down, it's so I can But really deep down, it's so I can starve myself. starve myself. starve myself. &gt;&gt; Then on the other end, you get the like, &gt;&gt; Then on the other end, you get the like, &gt;&gt; Then on the other end, you get the like, I'm going to do this thing, but maybe I'm going to do this thing, but maybe I'm going to do this thing, but maybe it's the bodybuilder, the fitness it's the bodybuilder, the fitness it's the bodybuilder, the fitness enthusiast, but I'm going to drink amino enthusiast, but I'm going to drink amino enthusiast, but I'm going to drink amino acids all day and protein shakes all day acids all day and protein shakes all day acids all day and protein shakes all day because that technically is liquid. because that technically is liquid. because that technically is liquid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. &gt;&gt; And I don't want to lose muscle. And &gt;&gt; And I don't want to lose muscle. And &gt;&gt; And I don't want to lose muscle. And again, you're losing the really losing again, you're losing the really losing again, you're losing the really losing the reason why you're doing it in the the reason why you're doing it in the the reason why you're doing it in the first place. Well, I mean, our space has first place. Well, I mean, our space has first place. Well, I mean, our space has done a poor job of like having those done a poor job of like having those done a poor job of like having those type of articles out there and things to type of articles out there and things to type of articles out there and things to scare. scare. scare. &gt;&gt; Well, and not to mention if you if you &gt;&gt; Well, and not to mention if you if you &gt;&gt; Well, and not to mention if you if you are good with your lifting and are good with your lifting and are good with your lifting and consistency with your macros during the consistency with your macros during the consistency with your macros during the week, I would argue there's nothing but week, I would argue there's nothing but week, I would argue there's nothing but good benefits uh for that day of good benefits uh for that day of good benefits uh for that day of fasting. You're not going to you're not fasting. You're not going to you're not fasting. You're not going to you're not going to lose muscle. I remember when I going to lose muscle. I remember when I going to lose muscle. I remember when I thought the same way too though. I thought the same way too though. I thought the same way too though. I remember I thought if I went two hours remember I thought if I went two hours remember I thought if I went two hours would let a day panic. So, I get it. I would let a day panic. So, I get it. I would let a day panic. So, I get it. I totally get it. But, yeah, it's not totally get it. But, yeah, it's not totally get it. But, yeah, it's not true. true. true. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Natalie from Oregon. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Natalie from Oregon. &gt;&gt; Our next caller is Natalie from Oregon. &gt;&gt; Hi, Natalie. HOW YOU DOING NATALIE? &gt;&gt; Hi, Natalie. HOW YOU DOING NATALIE? &gt;&gt; Hi, Natalie. HOW YOU DOING NATALIE? &gt;&gt; HELLO. Nice to see you all. &gt;&gt; HELLO. Nice to see you all. &gt;&gt; HELLO. Nice to see you all. &gt;&gt; How can we help you? &gt;&gt; How can we help you? &gt;&gt; How can we help you? &gt;&gt; Yes. So, um I have listened for about &gt;&gt; Yes. So, um I have listened for about &gt;&gt; Yes. So, um I have listened for about two years. I have done two MAPS two years. I have done two MAPS two years. I have done two MAPS programs, anabolic twice and performance programs, anabolic twice and performance programs, anabolic twice and performance once. And what I would love help with is once. And what I would love help with is once. And what I would love help with is having a successful cut, losing that having a successful cut, losing that having a successful cut, losing that last 10 lbs, like those hardest last 10 last 10 lbs, like those hardest last 10 last 10 lbs, like those hardest last 10 lbs. Um, so I've listened to your advice lbs. Um, so I've listened to your advice lbs. Um, so I've listened to your advice over these last years and I've actually over these last years and I've actually over these last years and I've actually reverse dieted. I'm on my third reverse reverse dieted. I'm on my third reverse reverse dieted. I'm on my third reverse diet. So I bulked three different times diet. So I bulked three different times diet. So I bulked three different times &gt;&gt; and about to start my third cut. And &gt;&gt; and about to start my third cut. And &gt;&gt; and about to start my third cut. And especially the last one that I tried, I especially the last one that I tried, I especially the last one that I tried, I just feel like, well, not feel. Looking just feel like, well, not feel. Looking just feel like, well, not feel. Looking at the data, all I did was lose what I at the data, all I did was lose what I at the data, all I did was lose what I had gained during the bulk. And I really had gained during the bulk. And I really had gained during the bulk. And I really wasn't much leaner. I paid attention to wasn't much leaner. I paid attention to wasn't much leaner. I paid attention to my measurements for that. And um, my my measurements for that. And um, my my measurements for that. And um, my daughter's in the background there. And daughter's in the background there. And daughter's in the background there. And um and I I just don't think I think I um and I I just don't think I think I um and I I just don't think I think I really just lost about what I had really just lost about what I had really just lost about what I had gained. I think that I my body is gained. I think that I my body is gained. I think that I my body is amazing at adjusting. And so when I cut amazing at adjusting. And so when I cut amazing at adjusting. And so when I cut calories, my body real quick is like, calories, my body real quick is like, calories, my body real quick is like, "All right, this is our new maintenance. "All right, this is our new maintenance. "All right, this is our new maintenance. Awesome." Awesome." Awesome." &gt;&gt; And um my timeline is on May 31st is my &gt;&gt; And um my timeline is on May 31st is my &gt;&gt; And um my timeline is on May 31st is my sixth anniversary and my husband and I sixth anniversary and my husband and I sixth anniversary and my husband and I will be going on a belated honeymoon. will be going on a belated honeymoon. will be going on a belated honeymoon. So, we got married during co So, we got married during co So, we got married during co &gt;&gt; in 2020 and we've never been anywhere &gt;&gt; in 2020 and we've never been anywhere &gt;&gt; in 2020 and we've never been anywhere together. We haven't well, we've been to together. We haven't well, we've been to together. We haven't well, we've been to the beach together, but we haven't the beach together, but we haven't the beach together, but we haven't traveled on a plane together. So, this traveled on a plane together. So, this traveled on a plane together. So, this will be our first trip. Um, my mom's will be our first trip. Um, my mom's will be our first trip. Um, my mom's going to watch our daughter and I would going to watch our daughter and I would going to watch our daughter and I would love to feel confident in a bathing suit love to feel confident in a bathing suit love to feel confident in a bathing suit for this trip. for this trip. for this trip. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Congratulations. Awesome. Sounds &gt;&gt; Yeah. Congratulations. Awesome. Sounds &gt;&gt; Yeah. Congratulations. Awesome. Sounds like a lot of fun. like a lot of fun. like a lot of fun. &gt;&gt; This is super common, by the way. uh not &gt;&gt; This is super common, by the way. uh not &gt;&gt; This is super common, by the way. uh not just for normal people even at the just for normal people even at the just for normal people even at the competitive level. These people that do competitive level. These people that do competitive level. These people that do this professionally where they bulk up this professionally where they bulk up this professionally where they bulk up and then they cut down and they and then they cut down and they and then they cut down and they basically lose the muscle that they basically lose the muscle that they basically lose the muscle that they built up on the bulk. built up on the bulk. built up on the bulk. &gt;&gt; And a lot of that is due to too &gt;&gt; And a lot of that is due to too &gt;&gt; And a lot of that is due to too aggressive of a cut. In fact, you were aggressive of a cut. In fact, you were aggressive of a cut. In fact, you were probably doing even better in the bulk probably doing even better in the bulk probably doing even better in the bulk and the calories that we cut down to and the calories that we cut down to and the calories that we cut down to andor the activity because typically andor the activity because typically andor the activity because typically what tends to happen is they get what tends to happen is they get what tends to happen is they get motivated in the cut and they increase motivated in the cut and they increase motivated in the cut and they increase activity like crazy. They cut the activity like crazy. They cut the activity like crazy. They cut the calories. So, so they can see the scale calories. So, so they can see the scale calories. So, so they can see the scale move really fast. And what ends up move really fast. And what ends up move really fast. And what ends up happening is they lose as much muscle as happening is they lose as much muscle as happening is they lose as much muscle as they did fat. When you did the reverse they did fat. When you did the reverse they did fat. When you did the reverse diet, how high did you get your calories diet, how high did you get your calories diet, how high did you get your calories to? to? to? &gt;&gt; So, right now, so right now I'm eating I &gt;&gt; So, right now, so right now I'm eating I &gt;&gt; So, right now, so right now I'm eating I two Well, I attempted 2,900 two Well, I attempted 2,900 two Well, I attempted 2,900 last week and my waist started to go up last week and my waist started to go up last week and my waist started to go up a little bit. I've been like creeping up a little bit. I've been like creeping up a little bit. I've been like creeping up there. So, I'm I'm backing down to there. So, I'm I'm backing down to there. So, I'm I'm backing down to 2,800. So, 2,800. So, 2,800. So, &gt;&gt; that's right. That's good. That's good. &gt;&gt; that's right. That's good. That's good. &gt;&gt; that's right. That's good. That's good. My goal is just to not have my my waist My goal is just to not have my my waist My goal is just to not have my my waist go up much, but when I bulked over the go up much, but when I bulked over the go up much, but when I bulked over the spring last year and then cut, I went up spring last year and then cut, I went up spring last year and then cut, I went up to I went right up to 2,800 and I think to I went right up to 2,800 and I think to I went right up to 2,800 and I think that was actually too much. So when I that was actually too much. So when I that was actually too much. So when I did my first cut, um from 2,800 it was did my first cut, um from 2,800 it was did my first cut, um from 2,800 it was to 2,300. I did that for 4 weeks and I I to 2,300. I did that for 4 weeks and I I to 2,300. I did that for 4 weeks and I I lost one pound. So, I think because it lost one pound. So, I think because it lost one pound. So, I think because it wasn't my maintenance, um I didn't wasn't my maintenance, um I didn't wasn't my maintenance, um I didn't actually know what my maintenance was, actually know what my maintenance was, actually know what my maintenance was, um because I was gaining my waist did go um because I was gaining my waist did go um because I was gaining my waist did go up. up. up. &gt;&gt; It was too much, I think, that first &gt;&gt; It was too much, I think, that first &gt;&gt; It was too much, I think, that first time, but I do think I've gained more time, but I do think I've gained more time, but I do think I've gained more muscle and did it more slowly since that muscle and did it more slowly since that muscle and did it more slowly since that time. So, now right around 2,800, I'm time. So, now right around 2,800, I'm time. So, now right around 2,800, I'm hoping is my maintenance. I feel like I hoping is my maintenance. I feel like I hoping is my maintenance. I feel like I need a little more data than that. need a little more data than that. need a little more data than that. &gt;&gt; Well, Natalie, I want a little bit more &gt;&gt; Well, Natalie, I want a little bit more &gt;&gt; Well, Natalie, I want a little bit more context. I I you look pretty lean in context. I I you look pretty lean in context. I I you look pretty lean in your shoulders and your arms. What's your shoulders and your arms. What's your shoulders and your arms. What's your body fat percentage at? your body fat percentage at? your body fat percentage at? &gt;&gt; No clue. I've never done a dexa and I &gt;&gt; No clue. I've never done a dexa and I &gt;&gt; No clue. I've never done a dexa and I haven't had a a pincher in like 15 haven't had a a pincher in like 15 haven't had a a pincher in like 15 years. years. years. &gt;&gt; How how tall how tall are you and how &gt;&gt; How how tall how tall are you and how &gt;&gt; How how tall how tall are you and how much you weigh? much you weigh? much you weigh? &gt;&gt; So I am 5'3. I weigh about 131 132 lbs. &gt;&gt; So I am 5'3. I weigh about 131 132 lbs. &gt;&gt; So I am 5'3. I weigh about 131 132 lbs. I would guess I'm around 25% body fat if I would guess I'm around 25% body fat if I would guess I'm around 25% body fat if I had to guess. I had to guess. I had to guess. &gt;&gt; Okay. Yeah, you're probably pretty lean. &gt;&gt; Okay. Yeah, you're probably pretty lean. &gt;&gt; Okay. Yeah, you're probably pretty lean. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're probably you might even be &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're probably you might even be &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're probably you might even be lower based off of your shoulders and lower based off of your shoulders and lower based off of your shoulders and arms. It's hard to tell, but I can see arms. It's hard to tell, but I can see arms. It's hard to tell, but I can see your delts. I can see your arms. your delts. I can see your arms. your delts. I can see your arms. Typically for a woman uh to have that um Typically for a woman uh to have that um Typically for a woman uh to have that um she's probably you're probably low 20s. she's probably you're probably low 20s. she's probably you're probably low 20s. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Which here's what happens. Um if you're &gt;&gt; Which here's what happens. Um if you're &gt;&gt; Which here's what happens. Um if you're in the low 20s and you're building and in the low 20s and you're building and in the low 20s and you're building and you're strong, you're reverse dieting, you're strong, you're reverse dieting, you're strong, you're reverse dieting, it it's this game of mini cut, mini bulk it it's this game of mini cut, mini bulk it it's this game of mini cut, mini bulk to get down even leaner. Uh because once to get down even leaner. Uh because once to get down even leaner. Uh because once you get down to like 22, 21 for some you get down to like 22, 21 for some you get down to like 22, 21 for some women, for a lot of women, the body women, for a lot of women, the body women, for a lot of women, the body starts to fight it a little bit and not starts to fight it a little bit and not starts to fight it a little bit and not want to go. And so you kind of have to want to go. And so you kind of have to want to go. And so you kind of have to play this game and it just takes a play this game and it just takes a play this game and it just takes a little bit of time. How how are your little bit of time. How how are your little bit of time. How how are your lifts? How? Because you said I seen your lifts? How? Because you said I seen your lifts? How? Because you said I seen your email. You ran Maps anabolic mass email. You ran Maps anabolic mass email. You ran Maps anabolic mass performance. How strong are you? Can you performance. How strong are you? Can you performance. How strong are you? Can you give me an idea? give me an idea? give me an idea? &gt;&gt; So, not strong compared to a lot of the &gt;&gt; So, not strong compared to a lot of the &gt;&gt; So, not strong compared to a lot of the women I've heard call in, but I've I've women I've heard call in, but I've I've women I've heard call in, but I've I've made improve it. So, yesterday I did my made improve it. So, yesterday I did my made improve it. So, yesterday I did my squat was my last four reps were 145. squat was my last four reps were 145. squat was my last four reps were 145. &gt;&gt; That's great. &gt;&gt; That's great. &gt;&gt; That's great. &gt;&gt; I did a sumo deadlift of 195. &gt;&gt; I did a sumo deadlift of 195. &gt;&gt; I did a sumo deadlift of 195. &gt;&gt; These are This is great. &gt;&gt; These are This is great. &gt;&gt; These are This is great. &gt;&gt; Incline bench 75. And yesterday my &gt;&gt; Incline bench 75. And yesterday my &gt;&gt; Incline bench 75. And yesterday my overhead press was 65 for sets of four. overhead press was 65 for sets of four. overhead press was 65 for sets of four. You're strong. You're strong. You're strong. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing you're doing well. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing you're doing well. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're doing you're doing well. You're really strong. You're really strong. You're really strong. &gt;&gt; Natalie, how many how many steps do you &gt;&gt; Natalie, how many how many steps do you &gt;&gt; Natalie, how many how many steps do you take a day? Do you have any idea what take a day? Do you have any idea what take a day? Do you have any idea what your activity level looks like? your activity level looks like? your activity level looks like? &gt;&gt; Yeah, I average in a week I average &gt;&gt; Yeah, I average in a week I average &gt;&gt; Yeah, I average in a week I average about 8,500. about 8,500. about 8,500. &gt;&gt; Okay. Is that like uh you going out of &gt;&gt; Okay. Is that like uh you going out of &gt;&gt; Okay. Is that like uh you going out of your way to walk or is that just kind of your way to walk or is that just kind of your way to walk or is that just kind of your normal activity? your normal activity? your normal activity? &gt;&gt; I definitely have to put in some effort &gt;&gt; I definitely have to put in some effort &gt;&gt; I definitely have to put in some effort to get that. Like sometimes I'm just to get that. Like sometimes I'm just to get that. Like sometimes I'm just running in place in my house at night running in place in my house at night running in place in my house at night cuz cuz cuz &gt;&gt; was living in Oregon in the weather. I I &gt;&gt; was living in Oregon in the weather. I I &gt;&gt; was living in Oregon in the weather. I I mean I have a pretty good guess of where mean I have a pretty good guess of where mean I have a pretty good guess of where I would want you and I think you would I would want you and I think you would I would want you and I think you would just and but here's the temptation just and but here's the temptation just and but here's the temptation you're going to have because you have a you're going to have because you have a you're going to have because you have a thing coming up and so you're going to thing coming up and so you're going to thing coming up and so you're going to want to push it. I bet hitting around want to push it. I bet hitting around want to push it. I bet hitting around 2600 to 2700 calories trying to hit 2600 to 2700 calories trying to hit 2600 to 2700 calories trying to hit 10,000 steps every day and maybe 10,000 steps every day and maybe 10,000 steps every day and maybe switching the MAPS program to a new one switching the MAPS program to a new one switching the MAPS program to a new one that you haven't done yet. And you're that you haven't done yet. And you're that you haven't done yet. And you're going to see a nice slow change. going to see a nice slow change. going to see a nice slow change. &gt;&gt; You're going to get a beautiful slow &gt;&gt; You're going to get a beautiful slow &gt;&gt; You're going to get a beautiful slow change. You're not going to have to cut change. You're not going to have to cut change. You're not going to have to cut calories aggressively. You're not really calories aggressively. You're not really calories aggressively. You're not really trying to reverse diet anymore. or trying to reverse diet anymore. or trying to reverse diet anymore. or you're just kind of landing in this. And you're just kind of landing in this. And you're just kind of landing in this. And what what that will do is this. If I can what what that will do is this. If I can what what that will do is this. If I can get your steps up two more, thousand get your steps up two more, thousand get your steps up two more, thousand steps a day, I know I'm going to steps a day, I know I'm going to steps a day, I know I'm going to increase a little bit more activity and increase a little bit more activity and increase a little bit more activity and burn just a little bit more. If I switch burn just a little bit more. If I switch burn just a little bit more. If I switch to MAPS program, it's going to be novel. to MAPS program, it's going to be novel. to MAPS program, it's going to be novel. And there's going to be periods of time And there's going to be periods of time And there's going to be periods of time in the next 2 months where you're in a in the next 2 months where you're in a in the next 2 months where you're in a little bit of a deficit. So, you're little bit of a deficit. So, you're little bit of a deficit. So, you're going to lean out a little bit. And going to lean out a little bit. And going to lean out a little bit. And sometimes you're going to be in a tiny sometimes you're going to be in a tiny sometimes you're going to be in a tiny bit maybe of a maintenance surplus. And bit maybe of a maintenance surplus. And bit maybe of a maintenance surplus. And so, you're going to build a little bit. so, you're going to build a little bit. so, you're going to build a little bit. And what that'll do is keep you from And what that'll do is keep you from And what that'll do is keep you from losing any muscle. Maybe we even gain a losing any muscle. Maybe we even gain a losing any muscle. Maybe we even gain a pound or so during that time. But pound or so during that time. But pound or so during that time. But leaning out the whole time leaning out the whole time leaning out the whole time &gt;&gt; if we just hover there. You You It &gt;&gt; if we just hover there. You You It &gt;&gt; if we just hover there. You You It sounds like you're in a really good sounds like you're in a really good sounds like you're in a really good place when you eat those uh 28 2900 place when you eat those uh 28 2900 place when you eat those uh 28 2900 calories right now. How do you feel? Do calories right now. How do you feel? Do calories right now. How do you feel? Do you feel like you're stuffed? Do you you feel like you're stuffed? Do you you feel like you're stuffed? Do you feel satisfied? How do you like that feel satisfied? How do you like that feel satisfied? How do you like that amount of food? amount of food? amount of food? &gt;&gt; I like it. &gt;&gt; I like it. &gt;&gt; I like it. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. See, I I I like &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. See, I I I like &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. See, I I I like &gt;&gt; You're doing good. you you're you're &gt;&gt; You're doing good. you you're you're &gt;&gt; You're doing good. you you're you're probably really and and the scale can probably really and and the scale can probably really and and the scale can get in your head of like it's not really get in your head of like it's not really get in your head of like it's not really moving, but changes will be happening if moving, but changes will be happening if moving, but changes will be happening if you increase your steps to 10,000 steps you increase your steps to 10,000 steps you increase your steps to 10,000 steps a day. You just focus on trying to stay a day. You just focus on trying to stay a day. You just focus on trying to stay strong, land around that 2700 calorie strong, land around that 2700 calorie strong, land around that 2700 calorie range or so. Don't dip below 2600. range or so. Don't dip below 2600. range or so. Don't dip below 2600. That's kind of your mark, 26 to 2,700 That's kind of your mark, 26 to 2,700 That's kind of your mark, 26 to 2,700 range. And just stay consistent. I think range. And just stay consistent. I think range. And just stay consistent. I think you will have a nice change. you will have a nice change. you will have a nice change. &gt;&gt; You're going to lean out and you're &gt;&gt; You're going to lean out and you're &gt;&gt; You're going to lean out and you're going to build muscle at the same time. going to build muscle at the same time. going to build muscle at the same time. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I wouldn't do anything dramatic. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I wouldn't do anything dramatic. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I I wouldn't do anything dramatic. Uh you're strong, your body weight is Uh you're strong, your body weight is Uh you're strong, your body weight is good. I would guess your body fat good. I would guess your body fat good. I would guess your body fat percentage is good. We're looking at percentage is good. We're looking at percentage is good. We're looking at building and losing a little bit over building and losing a little bit over building and losing a little bit over time. Uh programming. I love what Adam time. Uh programming. I love what Adam time. Uh programming. I love what Adam said with programming. Let's get you said with programming. Let's get you said with programming. Let's get you strong. So like a maps, you can do like strong. So like a maps, you can do like strong. So like a maps, you can do like a powerlift, muscle mommy, strong. All a powerlift, muscle mommy, strong. All a powerlift, muscle mommy, strong. All three of those programs would probably three of those programs would probably three of those programs would probably be great. be great. be great. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; I Yeah, I think that would be that would &gt;&gt; I Yeah, I think that would be that would &gt;&gt; I Yeah, I think that would be that would be the best advice. And your energy be the best advice. And your energy be the best advice. And your energy probably is good. I'm assuming energy, probably is good. I'm assuming energy, probably is good. I'm assuming energy, sleep, libido feels good, your hormones sleep, libido feels good, your hormones sleep, libido feels good, your hormones feel balanced. feel balanced. feel balanced. &gt;&gt; Sleep is the one, but I'm have a &gt;&gt; Sleep is the one, but I'm have a &gt;&gt; Sleep is the one, but I'm have a four-year-old and I'm 44. So, four-year-old and I'm 44. So, four-year-old and I'm 44. So, so on a I don't always get seven hours, so on a I don't always get seven hours, so on a I don't always get seven hours, but I'm in bed a good amount of time. but I'm in bed a good amount of time. but I'm in bed a good amount of time. Sometimes I'm awake. Sometimes I'm awake. Sometimes I'm awake. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you look I wouldn't have guessed &gt;&gt; Yeah, you look I wouldn't have guessed &gt;&gt; Yeah, you look I wouldn't have guessed your age, by the way. You look amazing. your age, by the way. You look amazing. your age, by the way. You look amazing. I think what Adam said is exactly that's I think what Adam said is exactly that's I think what Adam said is exactly that's exactly right. you're uh I I mean I feel exactly right. you're uh I I mean I feel exactly right. you're uh I I mean I feel like I kind of have a body type similar like I kind of have a body type similar like I kind of have a body type similar to this where when I when I cut too to this where when I when I cut too to this where when I when I cut too aggressively, I just I lose weight, but aggressively, I just I lose weight, but aggressively, I just I lose weight, but I lose muscle right off. I do better in I lose muscle right off. I do better in I lose muscle right off. I do better in this kind of maintenance or surplus. I this kind of maintenance or surplus. I this kind of maintenance or surplus. I have to be eating enough to to keep that have to be eating enough to to keep that have to be eating enough to to keep that muscle on my body. Otherwise, it just muscle on my body. Otherwise, it just muscle on my body. Otherwise, it just comes right off with the body fat and so comes right off with the body fat and so comes right off with the body fat and so I can drop weight on the scale, I can drop weight on the scale, I can drop weight on the scale, &gt;&gt; but I lose the m and so I do much better &gt;&gt; but I lose the m and so I do much better &gt;&gt; but I lose the m and so I do much better staying closer to my maintenance and staying closer to my maintenance and staying closer to my maintenance and leaning slowly than I do trying to leaning slowly than I do trying to leaning slowly than I do trying to aggressively. Not everybody's like that. aggressively. Not everybody's like that. aggressively. Not everybody's like that. I've shared on the show and how long you I've shared on the show and how long you I've shared on the show and how long you listen. I had a ex-girlfriend that was listen. I had a ex-girlfriend that was listen. I had a ex-girlfriend that was the opposite. She could starve her body, the opposite. She could starve her body, the opposite. She could starve her body, train like a mad woman, and never lose train like a mad woman, and never lose train like a mad woman, and never lose any muscle, and she would slowly lose any muscle, and she would slowly lose any muscle, and she would slowly lose body fat. I'm I'm different like that. I body fat. I'm I'm different like that. I body fat. I'm I'm different like that. I I lose muscle really quick if I don't I lose muscle really quick if I don't I lose muscle really quick if I don't stimulate it. I don't feed it like what stimulate it. I don't feed it like what stimulate it. I don't feed it like what it wants. And I think you're kind of it wants. And I think you're kind of it wants. And I think you're kind of like that. I think you'll do better in a like that. I think you'll do better in a like that. I think you'll do better in a closer to maintenance calorie range. So, closer to maintenance calorie range. So, closer to maintenance calorie range. So, hovering around that 26 2700. And then hovering around that 26 2700. And then hovering around that 26 2700. And then just try your best to get 10,000 steps just try your best to get 10,000 steps just try your best to get 10,000 steps in a day. Really make that your new in a day. Really make that your new in a day. Really make that your new average. of like average. of like average. of like &gt;&gt; if you if you do this good and you stay &gt;&gt; if you if you do this good and you stay &gt;&gt; if you if you do this good and you stay consistent by it's May when's your trip? consistent by it's May when's your trip? consistent by it's May when's your trip? May 31st. May 31st. May 31st. &gt;&gt; It's in 17 weeks. I just checked out May &gt;&gt; It's in 17 weeks. I just checked out May &gt;&gt; It's in 17 weeks. I just checked out May 31st. 31st. 31st. &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. You could drop 3% body fat by &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. You could drop 3% body fat by &gt;&gt; Oh yeah. You could drop 3% body fat by then. Which which you'll see. then. Which which you'll see. then. Which which you'll see. &gt;&gt; Oh god. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh god. Yeah. &gt;&gt; Oh god. Yeah. &gt;&gt; You and and that's it sounds slow but &gt;&gt; You and and that's it sounds slow but &gt;&gt; You and and that's it sounds slow but you'll be you'll keep muscle if not you'll be you'll keep muscle if not you'll be you'll keep muscle if not build something. build something. build something. &gt;&gt; And if we do a really good job of this, &gt;&gt; And if we do a really good job of this, &gt;&gt; And if we do a really good job of this, you drop down the 26 27 and we don't see you drop down the 26 27 and we don't see you drop down the 26 27 and we don't see major movement on the scale. major movement on the scale. major movement on the scale. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; Mhm. &gt;&gt; The scale doesn't really looks &gt;&gt; The scale doesn't really looks &gt;&gt; The scale doesn't really looks different. different. different. &gt;&gt; Yeah. The scale shouldn't move very &gt;&gt; Yeah. The scale shouldn't move very &gt;&gt; Yeah. The scale shouldn't move very much. It should kind of maybe a pound or much. It should kind of maybe a pound or much. It should kind of maybe a pound or two, but like it should kind of hover two, but like it should kind of hover two, but like it should kind of hover around there. And that that tells me around there. And that that tells me around there. And that that tells me you're having this beautiful exchange of you're having this beautiful exchange of you're having this beautiful exchange of sometimes we're in bu a little bit of a sometimes we're in bu a little bit of a sometimes we're in bu a little bit of a building phase, sometimes we're in a building phase, sometimes we're in a building phase, sometimes we're in a little cut and you're having a nice little cut and you're having a nice little cut and you're having a nice little exchange. little exchange. little exchange. &gt;&gt; So that you you don't want to see any &gt;&gt; So that you you don't want to see any &gt;&gt; So that you you don't want to see any dramatic drops dramatic drops dramatic drops &gt;&gt; uh or or increases, but you shouldn't &gt;&gt; uh or or increases, but you shouldn't &gt;&gt; uh or or increases, but you shouldn't see an increase if you're already up to see an increase if you're already up to see an increase if you're already up to 28 2900 calories and you come down to 28 2900 calories and you come down to 28 2900 calories and you come down to 27. 27. 27. &gt;&gt; Okay? Cuz I know the biggest thing I'd &gt;&gt; Okay? Cuz I know the biggest thing I'd &gt;&gt; Okay? Cuz I know the biggest thing I'd like to see is my waist. Like again, I like to see is my waist. Like again, I like to see is my waist. Like again, I know I'm comparing myself to like my old know I'm comparing myself to like my old know I'm comparing myself to like my old self cuz I've lifted for 20 years, but I self cuz I've lifted for 20 years, but I self cuz I've lifted for 20 years, but I haven't always done proper strength haven't always done proper strength haven't always done proper strength training with good amount of rest time. training with good amount of rest time. training with good amount of rest time. And so looking at like measure and I've And so looking at like measure and I've And so looking at like measure and I've had a kid, but looking at measurements had a kid, but looking at measurements had a kid, but looking at measurements from like 10 or 15 years ago and it's from like 10 or 15 years ago and it's from like 10 or 15 years ago and it's like my waist is just staying right like my waist is just staying right like my waist is just staying right around that 27 in and I just I want to around that 27 in and I just I want to around that 27 in and I just I want to see it get a little see it get a little see it get a little &gt;&gt; I think I think this way it'll do that. &gt;&gt; I think I think this way it'll do that. &gt;&gt; I think I think this way it'll do that. If you want to add something, uh, add If you want to add something, uh, add If you want to add something, uh, add like the like stomach vacuum exercises like the like stomach vacuum exercises like the like stomach vacuum exercises that we talk about, that'll help that that we talk about, that'll help that that we talk about, that'll help that that'll help strengthen the core, which that'll help strengthen the core, which that'll help strengthen the core, which will draw in this the stomach. will draw in this the stomach. will draw in this the stomach. &gt;&gt; It's a TVA exercise. &gt;&gt; It's a TVA exercise. &gt;&gt; It's a TVA exercise. &gt;&gt; Heard of those? &gt;&gt; Heard of those? &gt;&gt; Heard of those? &gt;&gt; Oh, you never Okay, we have on our Mind &gt;&gt; Oh, you never Okay, we have on our Mind &gt;&gt; Oh, you never Okay, we have on our Mind Pump TV channel. Pump TV channel. Pump TV channel. &gt;&gt; I'll have Doug send you the video. So, &gt;&gt; I'll have Doug send you the video. So, &gt;&gt; I'll have Doug send you the video. So, I'll have Doug send you over the video. I'll have Doug send you over the video. I'll have Doug send you over the video. Practice those throughout the day. These Practice those throughout the day. These Practice those throughout the day. These are great for working on those those are great for working on those those are great for working on those those internal muscles that will draw draw the internal muscles that will draw draw the internal muscles that will draw draw the stomach in. And that will actually a lot stomach in. And that will actually a lot stomach in. And that will actually a lot of times will make someone's waist look of times will make someone's waist look of times will make someone's waist look like it's an half an inch to an inch like it's an half an inch to an inch like it's an half an inch to an inch smaller just by getting stronger in the smaller just by getting stronger in the smaller just by getting stronger in the core areas. Doing that with the advice core areas. Doing that with the advice core areas. Doing that with the advice I'm giving you, I'm giving you, I'm giving you, &gt;&gt; you I think you will see and feel a &gt;&gt; you I think you will see and feel a &gt;&gt; you I think you will see and feel a difference within 30 45 days already. Uh difference within 30 45 days already. Uh difference within 30 45 days already. Uh but stay the course. Stay the course. but stay the course. Stay the course. but stay the course. Stay the course. &gt;&gt; You're doing great. &gt;&gt; You're doing great. &gt;&gt; You're doing great. &gt;&gt; You are doing great. &gt;&gt; You are doing great. &gt;&gt; You are doing great. &gt;&gt; You're doing You're eating almost 3,000 &gt;&gt; You're doing You're eating almost 3,000 &gt;&gt; You're doing You're eating almost 3,000 calories a day. Yes. calories a day. Yes. calories a day. Yes. &gt;&gt; You're really strong. &gt;&gt; You're really strong. &gt;&gt; You're really strong. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; Yes. &gt;&gt; You're doing really good. &gt;&gt; You're doing really good. &gt;&gt; You're doing really good. &gt;&gt; Yeah. I think your body does better fed &gt;&gt; Yeah. I think your body does better fed &gt;&gt; Yeah. I think your body does better fed than it does cut. than it does cut. than it does cut. &gt;&gt; Here's the deal. And now it makes sense. &gt;&gt; Here's the deal. And now it makes sense. &gt;&gt; Here's the deal. And now it makes sense. You've been lifting for 20 years. Albeit You've been lifting for 20 years. Albeit You've been lifting for 20 years. Albeit maybe not as good. maybe not as good. maybe not as good. &gt;&gt; Not not nearly as but very long like &gt;&gt; Not not nearly as but very long like &gt;&gt; Not not nearly as but very long like year-long breaks in the middle because I year-long breaks in the middle because I year-long breaks in the middle because I was all in or all out. was all in or all out. was all in or all out. &gt;&gt; Fine. But my point is if you muscle &gt;&gt; Fine. But my point is if you muscle &gt;&gt; Fine. But my point is if you muscle memories here's the problem with someone memories here's the problem with someone memories here's the problem with someone like you who's been doing it for a like you who's been doing it for a like you who's been doing it for a while. Um and you're strong already. while. Um and you're strong already. while. Um and you're strong already. You're lean. You're fit. You're do You're lean. You're fit. You're do You're lean. You're fit. You're do you're feeling good. You're eating. Your you're feeling good. You're eating. Your you're feeling good. You're eating. Your metabolism is humming. Especially for metabolism is humming. Especially for metabolism is humming. Especially for someone your size. That's a lot of someone your size. That's a lot of someone your size. That's a lot of calories. calories. calories. &gt;&gt; If you push too hard in any direction, &gt;&gt; If you push too hard in any direction, &gt;&gt; If you push too hard in any direction, you're going to get uh negative results. you're going to get uh negative results. you're going to get uh negative results. &gt;&gt; Yep. Mhm. &gt;&gt; Yep. Mhm. &gt;&gt; Yep. Mhm. &gt;&gt; Okay. like you go too hard in any &gt;&gt; Okay. like you go too hard in any &gt;&gt; Okay. like you go too hard in any direction, it's you're just not going to direction, it's you're just not going to direction, it's you're just not going to be happy with the results. So, the the be happy with the results. So, the the be happy with the results. So, the the best best bet for you is exactly what best best bet for you is exactly what best best bet for you is exactly what Adam said. You drop a 100 maybe 200 Adam said. You drop a 100 maybe 200 Adam said. You drop a 100 maybe 200 calories calories calories &gt;&gt; and you walk a little more and then &gt;&gt; and you walk a little more and then &gt;&gt; and you walk a little more and then watch what happens by the time you're watch what happens by the time you're watch what happens by the time you're ready ready to go. You'll see the ready ready to go. You'll see the ready ready to go. You'll see the change. change. change. &gt;&gt; Okay, I will give that a shot. &gt;&gt; Okay, I will give that a shot. &gt;&gt; Okay, I will give that a shot. &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're good. I'd love to hear back &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're good. I'd love to hear back &gt;&gt; Yeah, you're good. I'd love to hear back from you in about 30 45 days, too. I from you in about 30 45 days, too. I from you in about 30 45 days, too. I think think think &gt;&gt; Do you have muscle mommy? &gt;&gt; Do you have muscle mommy? &gt;&gt; Do you have muscle mommy? &gt;&gt; Uh, no. Is that I do work from home or &gt;&gt; Uh, no. Is that I do work from home or &gt;&gt; Uh, no. Is that I do work from home or work out from home? That's fine. work out from home? That's fine. work out from home? That's fine. &gt;&gt; Yeah, we can do that. You can do that &gt;&gt; Yeah, we can do that. You can do that &gt;&gt; Yeah, we can do that. You can do that from home. from home. from home. &gt;&gt; Yep. I'll send it to you home program. &gt;&gt; Yep. I'll send it to you home program. &gt;&gt; Yep. I'll send it to you home program. &gt;&gt; Okay, great. That sounds good. Thank you &gt;&gt; Okay, great. That sounds good. Thank you &gt;&gt; Okay, great. That sounds good. Thank you all so much. all so much. all so much. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. &gt;&gt; Bye. I can always tell by the delts. &gt;&gt; Bye. I can always tell by the delts. &gt;&gt; Bye. I can always tell by the delts. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; So, as she's talking, I'm like, you &gt;&gt; So, as she's talking, I'm like, you &gt;&gt; So, as she's talking, I'm like, you pretty you look like you're pretty lean pretty you look like you're pretty lean pretty you look like you're pretty lean and muscular. and muscular. and muscular. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, we'll see about that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, we'll see about that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. So, we'll see about that. &gt;&gt; Yeah. And great numbers. Strong. Very, &gt;&gt; Yeah. And great numbers. Strong. Very, &gt;&gt; Yeah. And great numbers. Strong. Very, very strong. And health. Great very strong. And health. Great very strong. And health. Great metabolism. 28 2900 calories metabolism. 28 2900 calories metabolism. 28 2900 calories &gt;&gt; and and lean and fit. She's not like &gt;&gt; and and lean and fit. She's not like &gt;&gt; and and lean and fit. She's not like she's doing tons. I'm telling you right she's doing tons. I'm telling you right she's doing tons. I'm telling you right now that she has like this is me where now that she has like this is me where now that she has like this is me where if I go real aggressive on a cut I'll if I go real aggressive on a cut I'll if I go real aggressive on a cut I'll drop weight on the scale drop weight on the scale drop weight on the scale &gt;&gt; but then I lose muscle as fast. So it's &gt;&gt; but then I lose muscle as fast. So it's &gt;&gt; but then I lose muscle as fast. So it's like I like I like I &gt;&gt; I've gotten leaner by increasing my &gt;&gt; I've gotten leaner by increasing my &gt;&gt; I've gotten leaner by increasing my calories. I'm like that too. calories. I'm like that too. calories. I'm like that too. &gt;&gt; Yes. I do better at just kind of staying &gt;&gt; Yes. I do better at just kind of staying &gt;&gt; Yes. I do better at just kind of staying fed. If I stay fed uh and and hover fed. If I stay fed uh and and hover fed. If I stay fed uh and and hover around maintenance, that's enough for me around maintenance, that's enough for me around maintenance, that's enough for me to lean out slowly and I just don't do to lean out slowly and I just don't do to lean out slowly and I just don't do good in real world cuts. You know, it's good in real world cuts. You know, it's good in real world cuts. You know, it's like I think I think every body type is like I think I think every body type is like I think I think every body type is a little bit different. I think a little bit different. I think a little bit different. I think understanding that the the client and understanding that the the client and understanding that the the client and how they are the the advice ends up how they are the the advice ends up how they are the the advice ends up being different because if you're being different because if you're being different because if you're somebody who has a really hard time uh somebody who has a really hard time uh somebody who has a really hard time uh building muscle then you know I feel building muscle then you know I feel building muscle then you know I feel like that same person is having has a like that same person is having has a like that same person is having has a really easy time losing weight on the really easy time losing weight on the really easy time losing weight on the scale but then the muscle comes right scale but then the muscle comes right scale but then the muscle comes right off with it you know. off with it you know. off with it you know. &gt;&gt; Yeah. Justin you have to starve yourself &gt;&gt; Yeah. Justin you have to starve yourself &gt;&gt; Yeah. Justin you have to starve yourself &gt;&gt; I guess so. &gt;&gt; I guess so. &gt;&gt; I guess so. &gt;&gt; Yeah. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. &gt;&gt; All right. I know you like that episode. If you did check this one out. 30% body If you did check this one out. 30% body If you did check this one out. 30% body fat for men. This is way too high. This fat for men. This is way too high. This fat for men. This is way too high. This is actually a bit high for women as is actually a bit high for women as is actually a bit high for women as well. So, in today's episode, we're well. So, in today's episode, we're well. So, in today's episode, we're talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to talking about how you can go from 30 to 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when 10. What is 10% body fat? This is when you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go you have a visible six-pack. Can you go from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but from 30 to 10%, yes, it's possible, but not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, not if you guess along the way. So, we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do we're going to talk about how you can do that today's episode. that today's episode. that today's episode. &gt;&gt; Now, there's a huge range, right, of &gt;&gt; Now, there's a huge range, right, of &gt;&gt; Now, there's a huge range, right, of like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh like body types. Some people can run uh a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little a little bit heavier uh and or a little bit higher