Halle Berry: Why Women Are Being Failed at Menopause

I wake up in the morning and I cannot go I wake up in the morning and I cannot go to the bathroom. I'm sitting there and I to the bathroom. I'm sitting there and I to the bathroom. I'm sitting there and I just can't go. It's like h it's the most just can't go. It's like h it's the most just can't go. It's like h it's the most excruciating pain I've ever felt. So, excruciating pain I've ever felt. So, excruciating pain I've ever felt. So, the first thing of course you do, you go the first thing of course you do, you go the first thing of course you do, you go to the doctor. He said, "Well, this is to the doctor. He said, "Well, this is to the doctor. He said, "Well, this is the worst case of herpes I think I've the worst case of herpes I think I've the worst case of herpes I think I've seen." So, my guy Van is downstairs in seen." So, my guy Van is downstairs in seen." So, my guy Van is downstairs in the car cuz he had driven me to the the car cuz he had driven me to the the car cuz he had driven me to the doctor's office. I get in the car and doctor's office. I get in the car and doctor's office. I get in the car and I'm looking at him and I'm like, "Hey, I'm looking at him and I'm like, "Hey, I'm looking at him and I'm like, "Hey, so uh you got herpes?" So then an hour so uh you got herpes?" So then an hour so uh you got herpes?" So then an hour later, my doctor calls me and says, "No, later, my doctor calls me and says, "No, later, my doctor calls me and says, "No, you do not have herpes." I said, "Then you do not have herpes." I said, "Then you do not have herpes." I said, "Then what is it?" And he said, "I don't what is it?" And he said, "I don't what is it?" And he said, "I don't know." And he hung up the phone. I know." And he hung up the phone. I know." And he hung up the phone. I realized that what I was suffering from realized that what I was suffering from realized that what I was suffering from was dry vagina syndrome because in was dry vagina syndrome because in was dry vagina syndrome because in pmenopause over 50% of women get dry pmenopause over 50% of women get dry pmenopause over 50% of women get dry everything, dry eyes, dry mouth, and dry everything, dry eyes, dry mouth, and dry everything, dry eyes, dry mouth, and dry vagina. And all of those were dry on me. vagina. And all of those were dry on me. vagina. And all of those were dry on me. Nobody had ever mentioned the word Nobody had ever mentioned the word Nobody had ever mentioned the word menopause. I was so ignorant, Mark. I menopause. I was so ignorant, Mark. I menopause. I was so ignorant, Mark. I thought I would skip it. As a physician, thought I would skip it. As a physician, thought I would skip it. As a physician, I learned almost nothing about menopause I learned almost nothing about menopause I learned almost nothing about menopause in medical school except that it in medical school except that it in medical school except that it happens. There's 60 million women in happens. There's 60 million women in happens. There's 60 million women in America who are in menopause and they're America who are in menopause and they're America who are in menopause and they're not being well taken care of by the not being well taken care of by the not being well taken care of by the healthcare system. healthcare system. healthcare system. >> I had to be loud. I had to be unafraid >> I had to be loud. I had to be unafraid >> I had to be loud. I had to be unafraid to tell this very kind of embarrassing to tell this very kind of embarrassing to tell this very kind of embarrassing story because we had to start the story because we had to start the story because we had to start the conversation. >> Welcome to a special episode of the Dr. >> Welcome to a special episode of the Dr. Heyman show recorded live at the Udeonia Heyman show recorded live at the Udeonia Heyman show recorded live at the Udeonia Summit. Udemonia is a three-day Summit. Udemonia is a three-day Summit. Udemonia is a three-day gathering designed to elevate human gathering designed to elevate human gathering designed to elevate human health and potential. Here, over a 100 health and potential. Here, over a 100 health and potential. 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Thrilled to talk about something that is kind of a taboo subject and that is kind of a taboo subject and that is kind of a taboo subject and mostly ignored by medicine. Menopause. mostly ignored by medicine. Menopause. mostly ignored by medicine. Menopause. As a doctor, I've come to learn that As a doctor, I've come to learn that As a doctor, I've come to learn that most of women's health problems and most most of women's health problems and most most of women's health problems and most of women's problems in general start of women's problems in general start of women's problems in general start with men. Menopause, with men. Menopause, with men. Menopause, menstrual cramps, mental anxiety. So menstrual cramps, mental anxiety. So menstrual cramps, mental anxiety. So >> why is that? >> why is that? >> why is that? >> Men in general. I don't know. But you >> Men in general. I don't know. But you >> Men in general. I don't know. But you know that the truth is that you know as know that the truth is that you know as know that the truth is that you know as a physician I learned almost nothing a physician I learned almost nothing a physician I learned almost nothing about menopause in medical school except about menopause in medical school except about menopause in medical school except that it happens and that we should give that it happens and that we should give that it happens and that we should give preman and provera which unfortunately preman and provera which unfortunately preman and provera which unfortunately have a lot of side effects uh and are have a lot of side effects uh and are have a lot of side effects uh and are not the best hormone replacement not the best hormone replacement not the best hormone replacement therapy. You know as a physician I I had therapy. You know as a physician I I had therapy. You know as a physician I I had the privilege of working in a place the privilege of working in a place the privilege of working in a place called Kenya ranch where for almost 10 called Kenya ranch where for almost 10 called Kenya ranch where for almost 10 years I treated a population of women years I treated a population of women years I treated a population of women between you know late 30s and late 50s. between you know late 30s and late 50s. between you know late 30s and late 50s. So I really got to see what was going on So I really got to see what was going on So I really got to see what was going on in the whole continuum from reproductive in the whole continuum from reproductive in the whole continuum from reproductive life to pmenopause through menopause and life to pmenopause through menopause and life to pmenopause through menopause and after. And I just realized how much after. And I just realized how much after. And I just realized how much suffering there was, how much suffering there was, how much suffering there was, how much unnecessary suffering there was and how unnecessary suffering there was and how unnecessary suffering there was and how neglected it was. There's 60 million neglected it was. There's 60 million neglected it was. There's 60 million women in America who are in menopause women in America who are in menopause women in America who are in menopause and they're not being well taken care of and they're not being well taken care of and they're not being well taken care of by the health care system. Um, and I by the health care system. Um, and I by the health care system. Um, and I also realized that it's sort of accepted also realized that it's sort of accepted also realized that it's sort of accepted that women have to suffer, that they that women have to suffer, that they that women have to suffer, that they have to have PMS. Uh, you know what that have to have PMS. Uh, you know what that have to have PMS. Uh, you know what that stands for? stands for? stands for? Punish my spouse. Um, Punish my spouse. Um, Punish my spouse. Um, and and the the uh, you know, PMS, 75% and and the the uh, you know, PMS, 75% and and the the uh, you know, PMS, 75% of women have some degree of it. Some of women have some degree of it. Some of women have some degree of it. Some have a severe form called PMDDD which is have a severe form called PMDDD which is have a severe form called PMDDD which is premenstrual dysphoric disorder, bad premenstrual dysphoric disorder, bad premenstrual dysphoric disorder, bad menstrual cramps or dismen dismenorhea, menstrual cramps or dismen dismenorhea, menstrual cramps or dismen dismenorhea, heavy bleeding, heavy bleeding, heavy bleeding, irregular cycles, irregular cycles, irregular cycles, infertility, infertility, infertility, dysfunctional uterine bleeding, dysfunctional uterine bleeding, dysfunctional uterine bleeding, endometriosis. So many different endometriosis. So many different endometriosis. So many different problems that have come to be seen as problems that have come to be seen as problems that have come to be seen as just a normal part of being a woman. just a normal part of being a woman. just a normal part of being a woman. They're not. They're a result of things They're not. They're a result of things They're not. They're a result of things that are eminently treatable if you that are eminently treatable if you that are eminently treatable if you understand how to get to the root cause. understand how to get to the root cause. understand how to get to the root cause. And you know why I'm thrilled to be here And you know why I'm thrilled to be here And you know why I'm thrilled to be here with Hie is because she's had an with Hie is because she's had an with Hie is because she's had an epiphany that this was an area of health epiphany that this was an area of health epiphany that this was an area of health and healthcare and medicine that was and healthcare and medicine that was and healthcare and medicine that was neglected that she was a victim of I neglected that she was a victim of I neglected that she was a victim of I would say and has made her life and her would say and has made her life and her would say and has made her life and her second act in life about addressing this second act in life about addressing this second act in life about addressing this on a cultural level on a healthcare on a cultural level on a healthcare on a cultural level on a healthcare level on an empowerment level for women level on an empowerment level for women level on an empowerment level for women which I think is amazing. So let's give which I think is amazing. So let's give which I think is amazing. So let's give it up for Hie. it up for Hie. it up for Hie. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um so with that with that prelude um you Um so with that with that prelude um you Um so with that with that prelude um you know tell us about your origin story know tell us about your origin story know tell us about your origin story with this because you're you're with this because you're you're with this because you're you're America's sex symbol right and menopause America's sex symbol right and menopause America's sex symbol right and menopause is not thought of something is not thought of something is not thought of something >> it's not sexy >> it's not sexy >> it's not sexy >> sexy right so you know you you were >> sexy right so you know you you were >> sexy right so you know you you were going through a lot of healthcare going through a lot of healthcare going through a lot of healthcare changes and you got misdiagnosed you changes and you got misdiagnosed you changes and you got misdiagnosed you were told you had a very uh embarrassing were told you had a very uh embarrassing were told you had a very uh embarrassing condition that ended up being not condition that ended up being not condition that ended up being not actually true uh and it was something actually true uh and it was something actually true uh and it was something else and you began to realize how much else and you began to realize how much else and you began to realize how much you were failed by medicine so tell us you were failed by medicine so tell us you were failed by medicine so tell us about that story and how you all got about that story and how you all got about that story and how you all got started in this. started in this. started in this. >> But when I was 54, thank you. >> But when I was 54, thank you. >> But when I was 54, thank you. >> Doesn't she look great? >> Doesn't she look great? >> Doesn't she look great? >> But when I was 54, nobody had ever >> But when I was 54, nobody had ever >> But when I was 54, nobody had ever mentioned the word menopause. I was so mentioned the word menopause. I was so mentioned the word menopause. I was so ignorant, Mark. I thought I would skip ignorant, Mark. I thought I would skip ignorant, Mark. I thought I would skip it. I thought whatever that thing is, it. I thought whatever that thing is, it. I thought whatever that thing is, I'm going to skip it. Right? I got I'm going to skip it. Right? I got I'm going to skip it. Right? I got myself off insulin. I I knew that food myself off insulin. I I knew that food myself off insulin. I I knew that food was medicine and I thought, well, I'm was medicine and I thought, well, I'm was medicine and I thought, well, I'm going to sail through whatever the hell going to sail through whatever the hell going to sail through whatever the hell that is. Well, no. We all are going to that is. Well, no. We all are going to that is. Well, no. We all are going to face it if we're lucky enough to get face it if we're lucky enough to get face it if we're lucky enough to get there. But finally, I met, you know, there. But finally, I met, you know, there. But finally, I met, you know, I've been like you, married and divorced I've been like you, married and divorced I've been like you, married and divorced few times. few times. few times. >> I'm a relationship expert. I've been >> I'm a relationship expert. I've been >> I'm a relationship expert. I've been married three times. married three times. married three times. >> Me too. Times and divorced three times. >> Me too. Times and divorced three times. >> Me too. Times and divorced three times. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Uh, so I finally met my man, right? And >> Uh, so I finally met my man, right? And >> Uh, so I finally met my man, right? And I knew that this was my man after three I knew that this was my man after three I knew that this was my man after three divorces. You kind of know when you meet divorces. You kind of know when you meet divorces. You kind of know when you meet your person. I met my person and we were your person. I met my person and we were your person. I met my person and we were having the best sex two people could having the best sex two people could having the best sex two people could have. Everything was functioning the way have. Everything was functioning the way have. Everything was functioning the way it should. We were on fire and I it should. We were on fire and I it should. We were on fire and I thought, "Wow, this is the best time of thought, "Wow, this is the best time of thought, "Wow, this is the best time of my life. We have a year of great sex. my life. We have a year of great sex. my life. We have a year of great sex. All of a sudden, at the end of that All of a sudden, at the end of that All of a sudden, at the end of that year, we're having great sex. I wake up year, we're having great sex. I wake up year, we're having great sex. I wake up in the morning and I cannot go to the in the morning and I cannot go to the in the morning and I cannot go to the bathroom. I'm sitting there and I just bathroom. I'm sitting there and I just bathroom. I'm sitting there and I just can't go. It's like h it's the most can't go. It's like h it's the most can't go. It's like h it's the most excruciating pain I've ever felt. And I excruciating pain I've ever felt. And I excruciating pain I've ever felt. And I thought, what the heck is going on? I thought, what the heck is going on? I thought, what the heck is going on? I look down there, it's blown up. It looks look down there, it's blown up. It looks look down there, it's blown up. It looks like something it's never looked like like something it's never looked like like something it's never looked like before. And I thought, my god, what has before. And I thought, my god, what has before. And I thought, my god, what has happened to me? So, the first thing, of happened to me? So, the first thing, of happened to me? So, the first thing, of course, you do, you go to the doctor. I course, you do, you go to the doctor. I course, you do, you go to the doctor. I go to the doctor that I've known a long go to the doctor that I've known a long go to the doctor that I've known a long time, and I say, "What what is happening time, and I say, "What what is happening time, and I say, "What what is happening here?" And he's like, "Well," he looks here?" And he's like, "Well," he looks here?" And he's like, "Well," he looks up there and he says, "Well, I I know up there and he says, "Well, I I know up there and he says, "Well, I I know what this is." And I'm like, "You do? what this is." And I'm like, "You do? what this is." And I'm like, "You do? What is it?" He said, 'Well, this is the What is it?" He said, 'Well, this is the What is it?" He said, 'Well, this is the worst case of herpes I think I've seen. worst case of herpes I think I've seen. worst case of herpes I think I've seen. And I'm like, herpes? And I'm like, herpes? And I'm like, herpes? >> What do you mean herpes? And not that >> What do you mean herpes? And not that >> What do you mean herpes? And not that herpes is a bad thing, but you think herpes is a bad thing, but you think herpes is a bad thing, but you think that's something you want to tell a girl that's something you want to tell a girl that's something you want to tell a girl you got herpes? I said, oh my god. He you got herpes? I said, oh my god. He you got herpes? I said, oh my god. He said, yeah, it's it's herpes. I'll do said, yeah, it's it's herpes. I'll do said, yeah, it's it's herpes. I'll do the test. It'll come back in 72 hours, the test. It'll come back in 72 hours, the test. It'll come back in 72 hours, but yeah, I'm pretty sure this is but yeah, I'm pretty sure this is but yeah, I'm pretty sure this is herpes. So, my guy Van is downstairs in herpes. So, my guy Van is downstairs in herpes. So, my guy Van is downstairs in the car cuz he had driven me to the the car cuz he had driven me to the the car cuz he had driven me to the doctor's office. He's down there in the doctor's office. He's down there in the doctor's office. He's down there in the car. I get in the car and I'm looking at car. I get in the car and I'm looking at car. I get in the car and I'm looking at him and I'm like, "Hey, so uh you got him and I'm like, "Hey, so uh you got him and I'm like, "Hey, so uh you got herpes." herpes." herpes." >> Oh god. >> Oh god. >> Oh god. >> And he's like, "I don't have herpes." >> And he's like, "I don't have herpes." >> And he's like, "I don't have herpes." I'm like, "No, you do have herpes I'm like, "No, you do have herpes I'm like, "No, you do have herpes because I have herpes now and I didn't because I have herpes now and I didn't because I have herpes now and I didn't have herpes before I knew you. So you have herpes before I knew you. So you have herpes before I knew you. So you have herpes." have herpes." have herpes." And he's like, "No, And he's like, "No, And he's like, "No, >> that's a fun conversation. >> that's a fun conversation. >> that's a fun conversation. >> It's a fun a very fun conversation with >> It's a fun a very fun conversation with >> It's a fun a very fun conversation with the love of your life of a year." And I the love of your life of a year." And I the love of your life of a year." And I said, "No, you you do." And he said, said, "No, you you do." And he said, said, "No, you you do." And he said, "Nobody's ever told me that." So I'm "Nobody's ever told me that." So I'm "Nobody's ever told me that." So I'm like, "Well, let me be the first to tell like, "Well, let me be the first to tell like, "Well, let me be the first to tell you, man. You have herpes. and now you, man. You have herpes. and now you, man. You have herpes. and now you've given it to me. And so we're in you've given it to me. And so we're in you've given it to me. And so we're in the car and we're driving and we're just the car and we're driving and we're just the car and we're driving and we're just mad and we don't know what to say to mad and we don't know what to say to mad and we don't know what to say to each other. So I say to him, look, you each other. So I say to him, look, you each other. So I say to him, look, you need to go get a test. We need to see need to go get a test. We need to see need to go get a test. We need to see what's going on here. So he runs right what's going on here. So he runs right what's going on here. So he runs right to the doctor. He gets a test. So for 72 to the doctor. He gets a test. So for 72 to the doctor. He gets a test. So for 72 hours as a new couple, we are just not hours as a new couple, we are just not hours as a new couple, we are just not that herpes is the end of the world that herpes is the end of the world that herpes is the end of the world because it's not, but you should tell because it's not, but you should tell because it's not, but you should tell each other that. So we had issues with each other that. So we had issues with each other that. So we had issues with trust. We didn't know who had the trust. We didn't know who had the trust. We didn't know who had the herpes, who gave the herpes. So 72 hours herpes, who gave the herpes. So 72 hours herpes, who gave the herpes. So 72 hours he gets his results back first. He he gets his results back first. He he gets his results back first. He doesn't have herpes. So he's looking at doesn't have herpes. So he's looking at doesn't have herpes. So he's looking at me like, "Well, looks like you gave me me like, "Well, looks like you gave me me like, "Well, looks like you gave me herpes." herpes." herpes." And I'm like, "Damn, And I'm like, "Damn, And I'm like, "Damn, think I gave him herpes, but how did think I gave him herpes, but how did think I gave him herpes, but how did that happen?" So then an hour later, my that happen?" So then an hour later, my that happen?" So then an hour later, my doctor calls me and says, I said, "I doctor calls me and says, I said, "I doctor calls me and says, I said, "I know. I know I got herpes." He said, know. I know I got herpes." He said, know. I know I got herpes." He said, "No, you do not have herpes." And I "No, you do not have herpes." And I "No, you do not have herpes." And I said, "I don't." He's like, "No." And said, "I don't." He's like, "No." And said, "I don't." He's like, "No." And this was my aha moment that changed the this was my aha moment that changed the this was my aha moment that changed the second act of my life because he I said, second act of my life because he I said, second act of my life because he I said, ' Then what is it? And he said,"I don't ' Then what is it? And he said,"I don't ' Then what is it? And he said,"I don't know." And I thought, "How can you not know." And I thought, "How can you not know." And I thought, "How can you not know? You're the doctor. You don't know know? You're the doctor. You don't know know? You're the doctor. You don't know what this is." And he said, "I truly what this is." And he said, "I truly what this is." And he said, "I truly don't." And that's all he said. And he don't." And that's all he said. And he don't." And that's all he said. And he hung up the phone. And I sat there with hung up the phone. And I sat there with hung up the phone. And I sat there with myself and with my new man. And I myself and with my new man. And I myself and with my new man. And I thought, "This is not okay. I have to go thought, "This is not okay. I have to go thought, "This is not okay. I have to go on my own mission to figure out what on my own mission to figure out what on my own mission to figure out what this is and educate myself. And that's this is and educate myself. And that's this is and educate myself. And that's when I realized that what I was when I realized that what I was when I realized that what I was suffering from was dry vagina syndrome. suffering from was dry vagina syndrome. suffering from was dry vagina syndrome. Because in perry menopause over 50% of Because in perry menopause over 50% of Because in perry menopause over 50% of women get dry everything. Dry eyes, dry women get dry everything. Dry eyes, dry women get dry everything. Dry eyes, dry mouth, and dry vagina. And all of those mouth, and dry vagina. And all of those mouth, and dry vagina. And all of those were dry on me. And that's when I were dry on me. And that's when I were dry on me. And that's when I realized if I had this little realized if I had this little realized if I had this little information, and I argue I've have one information, and I argue I've have one information, and I argue I've have one of the best doctors, and he is one of of the best doctors, and he is one of of the best doctors, and he is one of the best doctors in California, but it's the best doctors in California, but it's the best doctors in California, but it's not his fault. He wasn't educated. He not his fault. He wasn't educated. He not his fault. He wasn't educated. He had a chapter of studying the menopausal had a chapter of studying the menopausal had a chapter of studying the menopausal body in medical school. One chapter, body in medical school. One chapter, body in medical school. One chapter, half a day, right? So, he didn't know. half a day, right? So, he didn't know. half a day, right? So, he didn't know. Not his fault really at the time. But Not his fault really at the time. But Not his fault really at the time. But that's when I realized I had to use my that's when I realized I had to use my that's when I realized I had to use my platform, use my voice. I had to not platform, use my voice. I had to not platform, use my voice. I had to not only educate myself, but I had to sort only educate myself, but I had to sort only educate myself, but I had to sort of start to be able to help other women of start to be able to help other women of start to be able to help other women understand. And I had to break open this understand. And I had to break open this understand. And I had to break open this conversation. I had to start talking conversation. I had to start talking conversation. I had to start talking about it. I had to be loud, right? I had about it. I had to be loud, right? I had about it. I had to be loud, right? I had to be unafraid to tell this very kind of to be unafraid to tell this very kind of to be unafraid to tell this very kind of embarrassing story because we had to embarrassing story because we had to embarrassing story because we had to start the conversation and I had to make start the conversation and I had to make start the conversation and I had to make women okay to talk about it as well. women okay to talk about it as well. women okay to talk about it as well. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Hie, for sharing >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Hie, for sharing >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Hie, for sharing that. that. that. >> And by the way, when I said I was going >> And by the way, when I said I was going >> And by the way, when I said I was going to have this conversation, all the to have this conversation, all the to have this conversation, all the people in my life that, you know, helped people in my life that, you know, helped people in my life that, you know, helped me manage my career, they all were like, me manage my career, they all were like, me manage my career, they all were like, "Oh, I don't know if you want to go "Oh, I don't know if you want to go "Oh, I don't know if you want to go talking about menopause. That's going to talking about menopause. That's going to talking about menopause. That's going to like just end your whole shit." And I like just end your whole shit." And I like just end your whole shit." And I thought, well, then I my whole [ __ ] will thought, well, then I my whole [ __ ] will thought, well, then I my whole [ __ ] will end, but I'm going to talk about what's end, but I'm going to talk about what's end, but I'm going to talk about what's important to me as a woman and I'm going important to me as a woman and I'm going important to me as a woman and I'm going to talk about this time of my life. And to talk about this time of my life. And to talk about this time of my life. And if my movie career ends, I've had a good if my movie career ends, I've had a good if my movie career ends, I've had a good one. It's okay. one. It's okay. one. It's okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> It's okay. >> It's okay. >> It's okay. >> I think people always appreciate people >> I think people always appreciate people >> I think people always appreciate people who are authentic and tell the truth. who are authentic and tell the truth. who are authentic and tell the truth. And uh that's what matters. One of the And uh that's what matters. One of the And uh that's what matters. One of the things that happened during my career as things that happened during my career as things that happened during my career as a doctor is that there was a big study a doctor is that there was a big study a doctor is that there was a big study called the Nurses Health Study, which called the Nurses Health Study, which called the Nurses Health Study, which was a observational study that showed was a observational study that showed was a observational study that showed that women who took hormones did better. that women who took hormones did better. that women who took hormones did better. Um, and it was it was not proving cause Um, and it was it was not proving cause Um, and it was it was not proving cause and effect, but correlation. It turned and effect, but correlation. It turned and effect, but correlation. It turned out the women who were doing better were out the women who were doing better were out the women who were doing better were just healthier in general. They went to just healthier in general. They went to just healthier in general. They went to their doctor, they exercised, they ate their doctor, they exercised, they ate their doctor, they exercised, they ate better, they took their vitamins, they better, they took their vitamins, they better, they took their vitamins, they didn't smoke, and that's why they had didn't smoke, and that's why they had didn't smoke, and that's why they had better health outcomes, not necessarily better health outcomes, not necessarily better health outcomes, not necessarily because they took the hormones. when because they took the hormones. when because they took the hormones. when they did a big study was a billion-d they did a big study was a billion-d they did a big study was a billion-d dollar study commissioned by Bernardon dollar study commissioned by Bernardon dollar study commissioned by Bernardon Healey who was the first head of the NIH Healey who was the first head of the NIH Healey who was the first head of the NIH as a woman and called the women's health as a woman and called the women's health as a woman and called the women's health initiative and that study showed and initiative and that study showed and initiative and that study showed and there was problems with it but that there was problems with it but that there was problems with it but that study showed that there were some study showed that there were some study showed that there were some adverse outcomes from women who took adverse outcomes from women who took adverse outcomes from women who took hormones like heart attacks and strokes hormones like heart attacks and strokes hormones like heart attacks and strokes and increased cancer risk and increased cancer risk and increased cancer risk and all of a sudden boom overnight it and all of a sudden boom overnight it and all of a sudden boom overnight it was I remember I think it was 2002 the was I remember I think it was 2002 the was I remember I think it was 2002 the study came out and overnight there were study came out and overnight there were study came out and overnight there were 50 million women that stopped hormones 50 million women that stopped hormones 50 million women that stopped hormones which was a disaster disaster which was a disaster disaster which was a disaster disaster >> single worst thing I think to happen for >> single worst thing I think to happen for >> single worst thing I think to happen for women's health. women's health. women's health. >> It was a disaster. Just last week there >> It was a disaster. Just last week there >> It was a disaster. Just last week there was a big change. You want to share was a big change. You want to share was a big change. You want to share about it? about it? about it? >> The FDA lifted that blackbox warning and >> The FDA lifted that blackbox warning and >> The FDA lifted that blackbox warning and I think that's one of the best things to I think that's one of the best things to I think that's one of the best things to happen uh in women's health. But the happen uh in women's health. But the happen uh in women's health. But the truth is there are still going to be truth is there are still going to be truth is there are still going to be those women that are still going to be those women that are still going to be those women that are still going to be afraid because that stigma is still afraid because that stigma is still afraid because that stigma is still alive and well and women are holding on alive and well and women are holding on alive and well and women are holding on to that. It's still, I feel, going to be to that. It's still, I feel, going to be to that. It's still, I feel, going to be very hard to get women to have faith very hard to get women to have faith very hard to get women to have faith that these bioididentical hormones will that these bioididentical hormones will that these bioididentical hormones will not cause them cancer. not cause them cancer. not cause them cancer. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Really? I I think it is. And I know this >> Really? I I think it is. And I know this >> Really? I I think it is. And I know this because since that happened, I still because since that happened, I still because since that happened, I still talk to women and they still say, "Oh, talk to women and they still say, "Oh, talk to women and they still say, "Oh, but I don't know." So my question is, but I don't know." So my question is, but I don't know." So my question is, what will it take for us to really start what will it take for us to really start what will it take for us to really start doing our own investigation and doing our own investigation and doing our own investigation and advocating for oursel and deciding for advocating for oursel and deciding for advocating for oursel and deciding for ourselves what's right for us that do ourselves what's right for us that do ourselves what's right for us that do understand the menopausal body that can understand the menopausal body that can understand the menopausal body that can give us real information so that we can give us real information so that we can give us real information so that we can make those educated decisions, right? make those educated decisions, right? make those educated decisions, right? Not just, you know, what our friends Not just, you know, what our friends Not just, you know, what our friends tell us that their mothers have told tell us that their mothers have told tell us that their mothers have told them, but how do we come into 2025 and them, but how do we come into 2025 and them, but how do we come into 2025 and really start investigating for really start investigating for really start investigating for ourselves? That's what we have to start. ourselves? That's what we have to start. ourselves? That's what we have to start. >> It's really important. And I think the >> It's really important. And I think the >> It's really important. And I think the thing that has to happen and probably thing that has to happen and probably thing that has to happen and probably won't happen at scale is because the way won't happen at scale is because the way won't happen at scale is because the way drug companies make money is they modify drug companies make money is they modify drug companies make money is they modify a substance and make it proprietary and a substance and make it proprietary and a substance and make it proprietary and then they can patent it and then they then they can patent it and then they then they can patent it and then they can make money from it. But what you can make money from it. But what you can make money from it. But what you said was bioididentical. I mean it's said was bioididentical. I mean it's said was bioididentical. I mean it's what nature made. You can't pat patent what nature made. You can't pat patent what nature made. You can't pat patent what nature made like a vitamin or a what nature made like a vitamin or a what nature made like a vitamin or a hormone. And so it's cheap and it it's hormone. And so it's cheap and it it's hormone. And so it's cheap and it it's not going to make the money and so not going to make the money and so not going to make the money and so they're not going to do big studies on they're not going to do big studies on they're not going to do big studies on this. And and that's a fundamental this. And and that's a fundamental this. And and that's a fundamental problem unless the government takes a problem unless the government takes a problem unless the government takes a hold of this and does this and they have hold of this and does this and they have hold of this and does this and they have very different effects on the women's very different effects on the women's very different effects on the women's body than these other hormones. body than these other hormones. body than these other hormones. Premarine increases the risk of Premarine increases the risk of Premarine increases the risk of inflammation and causes high inflammation and causes high inflammation and causes high triglycerides. It increases cancer risk. triglycerides. It increases cancer risk. triglycerides. It increases cancer risk. It's pregnant Mar's urine. That's what It's pregnant Mar's urine. That's what It's pregnant Mar's urine. That's what it stands for. Pregnant mar's urine. it stands for. Pregnant mar's urine. it stands for. Pregnant mar's urine. Premorin come. That's how they get it. Premorin come. That's how they get it. Premorin come. That's how they get it. And provera is the other hormone they And provera is the other hormone they And provera is the other hormone they use which is a form of synthetic use which is a form of synthetic use which is a form of synthetic progesterone that actually makes women progesterone that actually makes women progesterone that actually makes women gain weight, have facial hair and be gain weight, have facial hair and be gain weight, have facial hair and be depressed. So it's not a lot of fun. But depressed. So it's not a lot of fun. But depressed. So it's not a lot of fun. But the bio identical ones don't do that. So the bio identical ones don't do that. So the bio identical ones don't do that. So can you talk about the kinds of symptoms can you talk about the kinds of symptoms can you talk about the kinds of symptoms that women suffer from? You mentioned that women suffer from? You mentioned that women suffer from? You mentioned vaginal dryness. You mentioned dry eyes, vaginal dryness. You mentioned dry eyes, vaginal dryness. You mentioned dry eyes, dry mouth, but there's a whole host of dry mouth, but there's a whole host of dry mouth, but there's a whole host of things that happen or can happen. Not things that happen or can happen. Not things that happen or can happen. Not not to everybody, but what did you not to everybody, but what did you not to everybody, but what did you experience and what are you seeing in experience and what are you seeing in experience and what are you seeing in your in your company respin which is your in your company respin which is your in your company respin which is really designed to help women through really designed to help women through really designed to help women through this process? It's a whole platform of this process? It's a whole platform of this process? It's a whole platform of education and support and coaching and education and support and coaching and education and support and coaching and hormone access to hormone therapy and hormone access to hormone therapy and hormone access to hormone therapy and doctors that provides a pathway where doctors that provides a pathway where doctors that provides a pathway where there's been none for women. there's been none for women. there's been none for women. >> Yes. Exactly. What blew my mind when I >> Yes. Exactly. What blew my mind when I >> Yes. Exactly. What blew my mind when I started to do my research, there are started to do my research, there are started to do my research, there are over 100 symptoms that are now over 100 symptoms that are now over 100 symptoms that are now attributed to pmenopause and menopause attributed to pmenopause and menopause attributed to pmenopause and menopause and I think the most common ones and and I think the most common ones and and I think the most common ones and many of you in this room are probably many of you in this room are probably many of you in this room are probably experiencing them. The worst ones I have experiencing them. The worst ones I have experiencing them. The worst ones I have of course is dry everything. I have dry of course is dry everything. I have dry of course is dry everything. I have dry mouth and dry eyes. Doctors don't know. mouth and dry eyes. Doctors don't know. mouth and dry eyes. Doctors don't know. My rheatologist tried to tell me that my My rheatologist tried to tell me that my My rheatologist tried to tell me that my dry dry mouth was Shoggrren's disease. dry dry mouth was Shoggrren's disease. dry dry mouth was Shoggrren's disease. Why? Because he had only really studied Why? Because he had only really studied Why? Because he had only really studied the research that came back to him from the research that came back to him from the research that came back to him from men. And if I were a man and I was men. And if I were a man and I was men. And if I were a man and I was complaining about the things that I was complaining about the things that I was complaining about the things that I was complaining about, probably would be complaining about, probably would be complaining about, probably would be Shoggun's disease and he would put me on Shoggun's disease and he would put me on Shoggun's disease and he would put me on steroids for probably the rest of my steroids for probably the rest of my steroids for probably the rest of my life. I said disease. Yeah. life. I said disease. Yeah. life. I said disease. Yeah. >> Right. And I said, "No, I don't I I I do >> Right. And I said, "No, I don't I I I do >> Right. And I said, "No, I don't I I I do not accept this. I do not have Shogrin's not accept this. I do not have Shogrin's not accept this. I do not have Shogrin's dis." I just didn't believe it. Another dis." I just didn't believe it. Another dis." I just didn't believe it. Another one of my doctors because I have dry one of my doctors because I have dry one of my doctors because I have dry eyes which I suffer from. Uh he has been eyes which I suffer from. Uh he has been eyes which I suffer from. Uh he has been my doctor for a while. My my my glands my doctor for a while. My my my glands my doctor for a while. My my my glands in my eyes almost dried up because he in my eyes almost dried up because he in my eyes almost dried up because he could not say the word menopause to me. could not say the word menopause to me. could not say the word menopause to me. He he said, "I can't tell Halib Berry He he said, "I can't tell Halib Berry He he said, "I can't tell Halib Berry she's in menopause." And I thought, she's in menopause." And I thought, she's in menopause." And I thought, "Then who's going to tell me? You're my "Then who's going to tell me? You're my "Then who's going to tell me? You're my doctor. We have to talk about this." So, doctor. We have to talk about this." So, doctor. We have to talk about this." So, you see, doctors can't even talk about you see, doctors can't even talk about you see, doctors can't even talk about it. So, those are my major symptoms. I it. So, those are my major symptoms. I it. So, those are my major symptoms. I also had uh brain fog. You know, also had uh brain fog. You know, also had uh brain fog. You know, nothing's worse than sitting in a nothing's worse than sitting in a nothing's worse than sitting in a meeting or on a phone call or on the set meeting or on a phone call or on the set meeting or on a phone call or on the set and I can't remember. I can't have word and I can't remember. I can't have word and I can't remember. I can't have word recall. Right in the middle of a recall. Right in the middle of a recall. Right in the middle of a sentence, I just lose my whole train of sentence, I just lose my whole train of sentence, I just lose my whole train of thought. Night sweats, up all night. You thought. Night sweats, up all night. You thought. Night sweats, up all night. You know, sleep deprivation is a form of know, sleep deprivation is a form of know, sleep deprivation is a form of torture. And we know this ladies, we torture. And we know this ladies, we torture. And we know this ladies, we wake up at 3:00 in the morning. We try wake up at 3:00 in the morning. We try wake up at 3:00 in the morning. We try to solve all the world's problems. We to solve all the world's problems. We to solve all the world's problems. We can't go back to sleep. When we finally can't go back to sleep. When we finally can't go back to sleep. When we finally get to sleep, it's morning. We have to get to sleep, it's morning. We have to get to sleep, it's morning. We have to get our kids off to school. Then we go get our kids off to school. Then we go get our kids off to school. Then we go into work and we're like a bear and into work and we're like a bear and into work and we're like a bear and we're so angry and everybody's like, we're so angry and everybody's like, we're so angry and everybody's like, "Well, what the [ __ ] is wrong with you? "Well, what the [ __ ] is wrong with you? "Well, what the [ __ ] is wrong with you? I've been up all night. You'd be this I've been up all night. You'd be this I've been up all night. You'd be this way, too." You know, it just never way, too." You know, it just never way, too." You know, it just never stops. And I felt like I was all alone. stops. And I felt like I was all alone. stops. And I felt like I was all alone. I I felt afraid. And I thought, I'm just I I felt afraid. And I thought, I'm just I I felt afraid. And I thought, I'm just getting old and now I'm going to just getting old and now I'm going to just getting old and now I'm going to just shrivel up and I'm going to go off to shrivel up and I'm going to go off to shrivel up and I'm going to go off to pasture and nobody's going to care. pasture and nobody's going to care. pasture and nobody's going to care. That's how I felt very depressed. I felt That's how I felt very depressed. I felt That's how I felt very depressed. I felt that alone and like that nobody heard my that alone and like that nobody heard my that alone and like that nobody heard my feelings. And when I tried to talk to feelings. And when I tried to talk to feelings. And when I tried to talk to health care professionals, I was just health care professionals, I was just health care professionals, I was just told, you know what, this is a part of told, you know what, this is a part of told, you know what, this is a part of getting old. That's all it is. you're in getting old. That's all it is. you're in getting old. That's all it is. you're in your late 50s and this is what this is your late 50s and this is what this is your late 50s and this is what this is and you just have to suck it up and deal and you just have to suck it up and deal and you just have to suck it up and deal with it. And that was not okay. And with it. And that was not okay. And with it. And that was not okay. And that's why at Respin we have doctors that's why at Respin we have doctors that's why at Respin we have doctors there and coaches there that no, no, we there and coaches there that no, no, we there and coaches there that no, no, we don't have to just suck it up. We don't have to just suck it up. We don't have to just suck it up. We deserve support. We deserve scientific deserve support. We deserve scientific deserve support. We deserve scientific information about what's happening with information about what's happening with information about what's happening with our body. We deserve a community of our body. We deserve a community of our body. We deserve a community of like-minded women because I've learned like-minded women because I've learned like-minded women because I've learned most of the things about what I'm going most of the things about what I'm going most of the things about what I'm going through through other women. That's through through other women. That's through through other women. That's right. through the things that they've right. through the things that they've right. through the things that they've tried and what has worked for them and tried and what has worked for them and tried and what has worked for them and what hasn't worked for them. I've what hasn't worked for them. I've what hasn't worked for them. I've learned about all the symptoms based on learned about all the symptoms based on learned about all the symptoms based on what other women tell me they're what other women tell me they're what other women tell me they're experiencing. I'm not experiencing these experiencing. I'm not experiencing these experiencing. I'm not experiencing these things, but I learned about frozen things, but I learned about frozen things, but I learned about frozen shoulder and all these other itchy feet shoulder and all these other itchy feet shoulder and all these other itchy feet and itchy legs and ears and ringing in and itchy legs and ears and ringing in and itchy legs and ears and ringing in your head. Like I learned your head. Like I learned your head. Like I learned >> low libido >> low libido >> low libido >> and low libido. Well, yeah, had that, >> and low libido. Well, yeah, had that, >> and low libido. Well, yeah, had that, too. But now I'm better. I got on some too. But now I'm better. I got on some too. But now I'm better. I got on some testosterone. I got found my libido. We testosterone. I got found my libido. We testosterone. I got found my libido. We don't have to, you know, sort of trail don't have to, you know, sort of trail don't have to, you know, sort of trail off into pasture. Like there are ways off into pasture. Like there are ways off into pasture. Like there are ways like we know that if you know the right like we know that if you know the right like we know that if you know the right things to do. When you know better, you things to do. When you know better, you things to do. When you know better, you do better. When you know the right foods do better. When you know the right foods do better. When you know the right foods to eat because food is medicine. When to eat because food is medicine. When to eat because food is medicine. When you know you know that if hormones are you know you know that if hormones are you know you know that if hormones are right for you, if you feel comfortable right for you, if you feel comfortable right for you, if you feel comfortable doing that, that can be a game changer. doing that, that can be a game changer. doing that, that can be a game changer. Like we have the right to figure out Like we have the right to figure out Like we have the right to figure out what works for us. what works for us. what works for us. >> I think that's really important because >> I think that's really important because >> I think that's really important because what what you're hitting on is is it's what what you're hitting on is is it's what what you're hitting on is is it's not just about hormone replacement not just about hormone replacement not just about hormone replacement therapy. And at Respin, you you do a therapy. And at Respin, you you do a therapy. And at Respin, you you do a comprehensive holistic approach which comprehensive holistic approach which comprehensive holistic approach which includes lifestyle, diet, exercise, includes lifestyle, diet, exercise, includes lifestyle, diet, exercise, stress management, sleep, relationships, stress management, sleep, relationships, stress management, sleep, relationships, all the things that matter, nutritional all the things that matter, nutritional all the things that matter, nutritional support, and and you know, we we don't support, and and you know, we we don't support, and and you know, we we don't really pay attention to that. And you really pay attention to that. And you really pay attention to that. And you know, at Function Health, we do deep know, at Function Health, we do deep know, at Function Health, we do deep diagnostics that help women understand diagnostics that help women understand diagnostics that help women understand where they are hormonally, where they where they are hormonally, where they where they are hormonally, where they are metabolically, where they are are metabolically, where they are are metabolically, where they are nutritionally, and you can start to see nutritionally, and you can start to see nutritionally, and you can start to see the patterns. And one of the things that the patterns. And one of the things that the patterns. And one of the things that I think, you know, I don't know if you I think, you know, I don't know if you I think, you know, I don't know if you focus on this much, but what I noticed focus on this much, but what I noticed focus on this much, but what I noticed when women go through this late 40s, when women go through this late 40s, when women go through this late 40s, early 50s transition is there's early 50s transition is there's early 50s transition is there's basically a whole set of hormones that basically a whole set of hormones that basically a whole set of hormones that go right. It's not just sex hormones go right. It's not just sex hormones go right. It's not just sex hormones like estrogen, progesterone, and like estrogen, progesterone, and like estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. It's insulin. And women testosterone. It's insulin. And women testosterone. It's insulin. And women get increased belly fat. It's cortisol, get increased belly fat. It's cortisol, get increased belly fat. It's cortisol, which also which also which also >> the men belly. >> the men belly. >> the men belly. >> Men belly. >> Men belly. >> Men belly. >> Men belly. >> Men belly. >> Men belly. >> Mento belly. Yeah. >> Mento belly. Yeah. >> Mento belly. Yeah. >> Who's got the men belly? >> Who's got the men belly? >> Who's got the men belly? >> The mento belly. It's >> The mento belly. It's >> The mento belly. It's >> people. Yeah. And it's cortisol goes up. >> people. Yeah. And it's cortisol goes up. >> people. Yeah. And it's cortisol goes up. The stress goes up. and you're often in The stress goes up. and you're often in The stress goes up. and you're often in the sandwich generation. Your career is the sandwich generation. Your career is the sandwich generation. Your career is peaking, your kids are in teenagers, peaking, your kids are in teenagers, peaking, your kids are in teenagers, your parents are older. It's like a your parents are older. It's like a your parents are older. It's like a whole it's a whole pressure cooker. And whole it's a whole pressure cooker. And whole it's a whole pressure cooker. And then you get thyroid dysfunction is very then you get thyroid dysfunction is very then you get thyroid dysfunction is very common, too. So, you've got insulin, common, too. So, you've got insulin, common, too. So, you've got insulin, cortisol, thyroid, sex hormones, four cortisol, thyroid, sex hormones, four cortisol, thyroid, sex hormones, four different hormones that go ary and are different hormones that go ary and are different hormones that go ary and are all interacting to cause a lot of chaos. all interacting to cause a lot of chaos. all interacting to cause a lot of chaos. And they're all treatable and women And they're all treatable and women And they're all treatable and women don't have to suffer if you understand don't have to suffer if you understand don't have to suffer if you understand what to look at and what to test for and what to look at and what to test for and what to look at and what to test for and what to diagnose. And that's really why what to diagnose. And that's really why what to diagnose. And that's really why we we created function health to empower we we created function health to empower we we created function health to empower women and everybody to be able to access women and everybody to be able to access women and everybody to be able to access their data and figure out what's going their data and figure out what's going their data and figure out what's going on. on. on. >> And that's the beauty of function. I >> And that's the beauty of function. I >> And that's the beauty of function. I just did my function test. You guys sent just did my function test. You guys sent just did my function test. You guys sent someone in my house. I swear they took someone in my house. I swear they took someone in my house. I swear they took every ounce of blood out of my body. She every ounce of blood out of my body. She every ounce of blood out of my body. She said, "I'm going to take 17 vials of said, "I'm going to take 17 vials of said, "I'm going to take 17 vials of blood." I said, "Excuse me, what? blood." I said, "Excuse me, what? blood." I said, "Excuse me, what? >> You want to know everything?" >> You want to know everything?" >> You want to know everything?" >> She said, "Yeah, that's what I'm doing." >> She said, "Yeah, that's what I'm doing." >> She said, "Yeah, that's what I'm doing." But you know what? Thank God she did But you know what? Thank God she did But you know what? Thank God she did because I learned so much. I got back because I learned so much. I got back because I learned so much. I got back such a comprehensive report and some such a comprehensive report and some such a comprehensive report and some things I think I already knew and some things I think I already knew and some things I think I already knew and some things I learned and it was really things I learned and it was really things I learned and it was really eyeopening and what women can do if they eyeopening and what women can do if they eyeopening and what women can do if they can get their functional report they can can get their functional report they can can get their functional report they can bring it over to us at Respin and we can bring it over to us at Respin and we can bring it over to us at Respin and we can help them function can help them make help them function can help them make help them function can help them make sense of what that means too but we at sense of what that means too but we at sense of what that means too but we at Respin can hold their hand to make sure Respin can hold their hand to make sure Respin can hold their hand to make sure they follow through with all of these they follow through with all of these they follow through with all of these protocols that can actually change their protocols that can actually change their protocols that can actually change their life and help them understand it because life and help them understand it because life and help them understand it because some of us need to ask the same question some of us need to ask the same question some of us need to ask the same question like 10 times before we get it and we like 10 times before we get it and we like 10 times before we get it and we understand that at Respin, you know, understand that at Respin, you know, understand that at Respin, you know, some of it can be very confusing and it some of it can be very confusing and it some of it can be very confusing and it can be daunting and you really need can be daunting and you really need can be daunting and you really need someone to sit with you and break it someone to sit with you and break it someone to sit with you and break it down until you finally understand it, down until you finally understand it, down until you finally understand it, >> you know. Can can you talk, Kelly, about >> you know. Can can you talk, Kelly, about >> you know. Can can you talk, Kelly, about what are those lifestyle factors and what are those lifestyle factors and what are those lifestyle factors and things that women experience that cause things that women experience that cause things that women experience that cause hormones to go wacky? It it often feels hormones to go wacky? It it often feels hormones to go wacky? It it often feels like it's happening randomly to you, but like it's happening randomly to you, but like it's happening randomly to you, but it it's not. It's the effect of it it's not. It's the effect of it it's not. It's the effect of everything washing over your biology, everything washing over your biology, everything washing over your biology, everything you eat, all those things. everything you eat, all those things. everything you eat, all those things. Can you kind of break that down for us Can you kind of break that down for us Can you kind of break that down for us and what you're learning about the and what you're learning about the and what you're learning about the things that are actually causing things that are actually causing things that are actually causing hormonal dysregulation? It's not just hormonal dysregulation? It's not just hormonal dysregulation? It's not just about giving hormone replacement about giving hormone replacement about giving hormone replacement therapy. It's about addressing the whole therapy. It's about addressing the whole therapy. It's about addressing the whole package. package. package. >> Yeah, you need so much. I mean, I've >> Yeah, you need so much. I mean, I've >> Yeah, you need so much. I mean, I've been on hormones now for almost four been on hormones now for almost four been on hormones now for almost four years and I can say that took me about years and I can say that took me about years and I can say that took me about 50 or 60% of the way. It certainly in 50 or 60% of the way. It certainly in 50 or 60% of the way. It certainly in the beginning, you know, helped me sleep the beginning, you know, helped me sleep the beginning, you know, helped me sleep a little bit better. I was a little less a little bit better. I was a little less a little bit better. I was a little less moody. I could remember things a little moody. I could remember things a little moody. I could remember things a little bit more. But it didn't just do the bit more. But it didn't just do the bit more. But it didn't just do the trick either. I had to realize that like trick either. I had to realize that like trick either. I had to realize that like you said, the hormones only were as you said, the hormones only were as you said, the hormones only were as effective as my body was healthy, right? effective as my body was healthy, right? effective as my body was healthy, right? So, I had to change the the way I ate. So, I had to change the the way I ate. So, I had to change the the way I ate. Being a type two diabetic, I used to be Being a type two diabetic, I used to be Being a type two diabetic, I used to be very much in the ketogenic diet. And I very much in the ketogenic diet. And I very much in the ketogenic diet. And I learned that at this time of my life, learned that at this time of my life, learned that at this time of my life, that was no longer working for me. I that was no longer working for me. I that was no longer working for me. I needed a little carbs. I needed to eat needed a little carbs. I needed to eat needed a little carbs. I needed to eat more fiber. I needed to have more more fiber. I needed to have more more fiber. I needed to have more protein. I used to I've worked out my protein. I used to I've worked out my protein. I used to I've worked out my whole life. I was a gymnast as a kid. I whole life. I was a gymnast as a kid. I whole life. I was a gymnast as a kid. I couldn't do as much cardio. I didn't couldn't do as much cardio. I didn't couldn't do as much cardio. I didn't need as much cardio as I used to need to need as much cardio as I used to need to need as much cardio as I used to need to do. I now needed to lift heavy heavy do. I now needed to lift heavy heavy do. I now needed to lift heavy heavy weights and I never did that before, you weights and I never did that before, you weights and I never did that before, you know, that that was not something that I know, that that was not something that I know, that that was not something that I felt I needed. And now I had to change felt I needed. And now I had to change felt I needed. And now I had to change all that about how I was operating my all that about how I was operating my all that about how I was operating my everyday life. So I realized that this everyday life. So I realized that this everyday life. So I realized that this new body was the better version of new body was the better version of new body was the better version of myself. We often think, oh, we're myself. We often think, oh, we're myself. We often think, oh, we're getting older and we're sort of getting older and we're sort of getting older and we're sort of downgrading, but we're not downgrading. downgrading, but we're not downgrading. downgrading, but we're not downgrading. When we know the things to do, we're When we know the things to do, we're When we know the things to do, we're upgrading. We're spiraling into the best upgrading. We're spiraling into the best upgrading. We're spiraling into the best version of ourselves, right? We just version of ourselves, right? We just version of ourselves, right? We just have to know how to support this new have to know how to support this new have to know how to support this new body, this new place we find ourselves. body, this new place we find ourselves. body, this new place we find ourselves. And it's not a sickness. It's a natural And it's not a sickness. It's a natural And it's not a sickness. It's a natural life transition that just has to be life transition that just has to be life transition that just has to be supported by evidence-based therapies supported by evidence-based therapies supported by evidence-based therapies and information. and information. and information. >> Yeah. And it's also things like alcohol >> Yeah. And it's also things like alcohol >> Yeah. And it's also things like alcohol and nicotine. Yeah. Bring it up. and nicotine. Yeah. Bring it up. and nicotine. Yeah. Bring it up. Um, you know, it's also things like Um, you know, it's also things like Um, you know, it's also things like alcohol and nicotine and caffeine that alcohol and nicotine and caffeine that alcohol and nicotine and caffeine that also can cause problems. So, you've got also can cause problems. So, you've got also can cause problems. So, you've got to pay to pay to pay >> to stop drinking alcohol. >> to stop drinking alcohol. >> to stop drinking alcohol. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that was a really hard one. >> that was a really hard one. >> that was a really hard one. >> Well, alcohol really screws up estrogen. >> Well, alcohol really screws up estrogen. >> Well, alcohol really screws up estrogen. In fact, one glass of wine or alcohol a In fact, one glass of wine or alcohol a In fact, one glass of wine or alcohol a day increases women's risk of breast day increases women's risk of breast day increases women's risk of breast cancer by 40%. Why? Because it cancer by 40%. Why? Because it cancer by 40%. Why? Because it interrupts estrogen metabolism in the interrupts estrogen metabolism in the interrupts estrogen metabolism in the liver and increases estrogen levels. You liver and increases estrogen levels. You liver and increases estrogen levels. You literally can see rising estrogen levels literally can see rising estrogen levels literally can see rising estrogen levels and high estrogen can cause all these and high estrogen can cause all these and high estrogen can cause all these problems. So, problems. So, problems. So, >> and your sleep, it can really mess with >> and your sleep, it can really mess with >> and your sleep, it can really mess with your sleep. We often think, oh, have a your sleep. We often think, oh, have a your sleep. We often think, oh, have a nice glass of wine and go to sleep. nice glass of wine and go to sleep. nice glass of wine and go to sleep. It'll put you to sleep, but it's going It'll put you to sleep, but it's going It'll put you to sleep, but it's going to wake you up at 3:00 a.m. to wake you up at 3:00 a.m. to wake you up at 3:00 a.m. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> So, it's not worth it. >> So, it's not worth it. >> So, it's not worth it. >> Yeah. And so, there's so many things >> Yeah. And so, there's so many things >> Yeah. And so, there's so many things that that are involved in sort of that that are involved in sort of that that are involved in sort of understanding how to optimize your understanding how to optimize your understanding how to optimize your health. And there's also, you know, the health. And there's also, you know, the health. And there's also, you know, the risk of diseases. And I think, you know, risk of diseases. And I think, you know, risk of diseases. And I think, you know, the things like the short-term symptoms the things like the short-term symptoms the things like the short-term symptoms are important, but when we're talking are important, but when we're talking are important, but when we're talking about longevity and we're talking about about longevity and we're talking about about longevity and we're talking about having a healthy lifespan and living to having a healthy lifespan and living to having a healthy lifespan and living to 100 healthy years, it's it's more than 100 healthy years, it's it's more than 100 healthy years, it's it's more than just, you know, getting rid of hot just, you know, getting rid of hot just, you know, getting rid of hot flashes or improving your sleep or flashes or improving your sleep or flashes or improving your sleep or vaginal dryness. It's it's interesting vaginal dryness. It's it's interesting vaginal dryness. It's it's interesting things that you're include your risk of things that you're include your risk of things that you're include your risk of Alzheimer's and osteoporosis, which are Alzheimer's and osteoporosis, which are Alzheimer's and osteoporosis, which are and Alzheimer's is, you know, affects and Alzheimer's is, you know, affects and Alzheimer's is, you know, affects women far greater rate than men. So, can women far greater rate than men. So, can women far greater rate than men. So, can you talk a little about the benefits you talk a little about the benefits you talk a little about the benefits there? there? there? >> And here's some Yes. And here's >> And here's some Yes. And here's >> And here's some Yes. And here's something I learned too that also blew something I learned too that also blew something I learned too that also blew my mind. We have hot flashes. That's my mind. We have hot flashes. That's my mind. We have hot flashes. That's part of it. And so many people have part of it. And so many people have part of it. And so many people have said, "Well, it's just hot flash. Just said, "Well, it's just hot flash. Just said, "Well, it's just hot flash. Just deal with it." Like, get a fan and carry deal with it." Like, get a fan and carry deal with it." Like, get a fan and carry it around with you. Like, what's the it around with you. Like, what's the it around with you. Like, what's the problem? Well, it's more than a hot problem? Well, it's more than a hot problem? Well, it's more than a hot flash, first of all, because every time flash, first of all, because every time flash, first of all, because every time you have a hot flash, there um you have a hot flash, there um you have a hot flash, there um ramifications to your brain, right? And ramifications to your brain, right? And ramifications to your brain, right? And what I learned with Dr. Mackey, who's what I learned with Dr. Mackey, who's what I learned with Dr. Mackey, who's also one of our our our doctors over at also one of our our our doctors over at also one of our our our doctors over at Respin, is that every time you have a Respin, is that every time you have a Respin, is that every time you have a hot flash, you don't actually know you hot flash, you don't actually know you hot flash, you don't actually know you have a hot flash. Sometimes you heal have a hot flash. Sometimes you heal have a hot flash. Sometimes you heal feel the hot flashes, but sometimes we feel the hot flashes, but sometimes we feel the hot flashes, but sometimes we don't. And Dr. Mackey was doing a study don't. And Dr. Mackey was doing a study don't. And Dr. Mackey was doing a study out of um out of Chicago. And she would out of um out of Chicago. And she would out of um out of Chicago. And she would hook woman women up to a machine and hook woman women up to a machine and hook woman women up to a machine and she's able to measure how many hot she's able to measure how many hot she's able to measure how many hot flashes they have. This one woman that flashes they have. This one woman that flashes they have. This one woman that she was studying while I was there with she was studying while I was there with she was studying while I was there with her, this woman thought she had high her, this woman thought she had high her, this woman thought she had high five hot flashes, but in fact, she had five hot flashes, but in fact, she had five hot flashes, but in fact, she had 50 hot flashes in a 24-hour period. And 50 hot flashes in a 24-hour period. And 50 hot flashes in a 24-hour period. And every time you have a hot flash, there's every time you have a hot flash, there's every time you have a hot flash, there's adverse effects to your brain, right? adverse effects to your brain, right? adverse effects to your brain, right? And so it's not just getting rid of hot And so it's not just getting rid of hot And so it's not just getting rid of hot flashes so we're we don't feel physical flashes so we're we don't feel physical flashes so we're we don't feel physical discomfort. It's really trying to discomfort. It's really trying to discomfort. It's really trying to minimize the hot flashes to protect our minimize the hot flashes to protect our minimize the hot flashes to protect our brain. And when I realized that it was brain. And when I realized that it was brain. And when I realized that it was hot flashes are not just hot flashes, hot flashes are not just hot flashes, hot flashes are not just hot flashes, then I really started to realize, oh, then I really started to realize, oh, then I really started to realize, oh, this is really serious. And and I never this is really serious. And and I never this is really serious. And and I never let anybody tell me anymore. It's just a let anybody tell me anymore. It's just a let anybody tell me anymore. It's just a hot flash. Like, you know, just deal hot flash. Like, you know, just deal hot flash. Like, you know, just deal with it. No, it's it's it's not as with it. No, it's it's it's not as with it. No, it's it's it's not as simple as that. And you know, one of the simple as that. And you know, one of the simple as that. And you know, one of the things that we now understand is that things that we now understand is that things that we now understand is that there's a therapeutic window right after there's a therapeutic window right after there's a therapeutic window right after menopause that's important to start menopause that's important to start menopause that's important to start hormone replacement therapy or you can hormone replacement therapy or you can hormone replacement therapy or you can call it hormone optimization therapy if call it hormone optimization therapy if call it hormone optimization therapy if you want to prevent Alzheimer's. So if you want to prevent Alzheimer's. So if you want to prevent Alzheimer's. So if you start when you're 65, it may not you start when you're 65, it may not you start when you're 65, it may not actually have the benefit. And the same actually have the benefit. And the same actually have the benefit. And the same thing with your bones, your bones, you thing with your bones, your bones, you thing with your bones, your bones, you start to lose your bones, you know, even start to lose your bones, you know, even start to lose your bones, you know, even in your 40s and and earlier. And that in your 40s and and earlier. And that in your 40s and and earlier. And that needs also a long-term support with needs also a long-term support with needs also a long-term support with hormone therapy. And if you don't hormone therapy. And if you don't hormone therapy. And if you don't protect your bones, we all know when you protect your bones, we all know when you protect your bones, we all know when you have an accident, you break a bone in have an accident, you break a bone in have an accident, you break a bone in your 50s and 60s, it can be lights out. your 50s and 60s, it can be lights out. your 50s and 60s, it can be lights out. Many women within a year of that are no Many women within a year of that are no Many women within a year of that are no longer here. longer here. longer here. >> Yeah. 50% of women who or anyone who >> Yeah. 50% of women who or anyone who >> Yeah. 50% of women who or anyone who breaks their hip are dead in a year. breaks their hip are dead in a year. breaks their hip are dead in a year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's worse than getting a terminal >> It's worse than getting a terminal >> It's worse than getting a terminal cancer diagnosis. So, and that's 100% cancer diagnosis. So, and that's 100% cancer diagnosis. So, and that's 100% preventable through strength training, preventable through strength training, preventable through strength training, through the proper diet, through support through the proper diet, through support through the proper diet, through support with hormones. And you know, let's talk with hormones. And you know, let's talk with hormones. And you know, let's talk a little bit about testosterone because a little bit about testosterone because a little bit about testosterone because that's a male hormone. So, what are that's a male hormone. So, what are that's a male hormone. So, what are women doing taking testosterone? women doing taking testosterone? women doing taking testosterone? >> Are they going to grow mustaches? And >> Are they going to grow mustaches? And >> Are they going to grow mustaches? And >> well, that's what I thought the deal >> well, that's what I thought the deal >> well, that's what I thought the deal when I first heard. You should take a when I first heard. You should take a when I first heard. You should take a little bit of testosterone. Like, I little bit of testosterone. Like, I little bit of testosterone. Like, I don't need hair on my chest. No, I'm not don't need hair on my chest. No, I'm not don't need hair on my chest. No, I'm not going to do that. But, you know, that's going to do that. But, you know, that's going to do that. But, you know, that's the ignorance talking, right? We I I the ignorance talking, right? We I I the ignorance talking, right? We I I didn't know. I did my research and now didn't know. I did my research and now didn't know. I did my research and now I'm on a little bit of testosterone. And I'm on a little bit of testosterone. And I'm on a little bit of testosterone. And I'm telling you, it changed everything. I'm telling you, it changed everything. I'm telling you, it changed everything. I got my libido back and I also got my I got my libido back and I also got my I got my libido back and I also got my drive back. There was a certain period drive back. There was a certain period drive back. There was a certain period of time when I felt very depressed and I of time when I felt very depressed and I of time when I felt very depressed and I didn't even want to get out of bed and I didn't even want to get out of bed and I didn't even want to get out of bed and I thought, "Oh, I don't want to go to thought, "Oh, I don't want to go to thought, "Oh, I don't want to go to work. I'm done with all of this." But work. I'm done with all of this." But work. I'm done with all of this." But when I started taking a little bit of when I started taking a little bit of when I started taking a little bit of testosterone with my estrogen and my testosterone with my estrogen and my testosterone with my estrogen and my progesterone, I got my drive back. I got progesterone, I got my drive back. I got progesterone, I got my drive back. I got my there there back, right? And it's my there there back, right? And it's my there there back, right? And it's really been transformative. really been transformative. really been transformative. >> Yeah. And the only way to know what's >> Yeah. And the only way to know what's >> Yeah. And the only way to know what's going on is you've got to test. You've going on is you've got to test. You've going on is you've got to test. You've got to measure what's going on because got to measure what's going on because got to measure what's going on because some women are fine, some women are not. some women are fine, some women are not. some women are fine, some women are not. And you know, I found as a doctor And you know, I found as a doctor And you know, I found as a doctor practicing in this whole age group, you practicing in this whole age group, you practicing in this whole age group, you know, you want to be careful not to know, you want to be careful not to know, you want to be careful not to overload a women with too much overload a women with too much overload a women with too much testosterone because it can have adverse testosterone because it can have adverse testosterone because it can have adverse effects. And so you have to be careful. effects. And so you have to be careful. effects. And so you have to be careful. And there there's dozens of preparations And there there's dozens of preparations And there there's dozens of preparations for men out there that are, you know, for men out there that are, you know, for men out there that are, you know, FDA approved, that are prescriptions FDA approved, that are prescriptions FDA approved, that are prescriptions that are formulated, that are regulated. that are formulated, that are regulated. that are formulated, that are regulated. There's almost none for women. And so, There's almost none for women. And so, There's almost none for women. And so, you know, as a doctor, I had to kind of you know, as a doctor, I had to kind of you know, as a doctor, I had to kind of figure out how to use compoundingies and figure out how to use compoundingies and figure out how to use compoundingies and create the right formulas. And you know, create the right formulas. And you know, create the right formulas. And you know, one of the things I came upon was using one of the things I came upon was using one of the things I came upon was using clitoreral testosterone drops that you clitoreral testosterone drops that you clitoreral testosterone drops that you apply two drops every night and it has apply two drops every night and it has apply two drops every night and it has profound benefits. And I know this profound benefits. And I know this profound benefits. And I know this because women keep calling for refills. because women keep calling for refills. because women keep calling for refills. >> Wait, now what is this? >> Wait, now what is this? >> Wait, now what is this? >> Okay, we can talk after. >> Okay, we can talk after. >> Okay, we can talk after. >> I know about these literal drops. >> I know about these literal drops. >> I know about these literal drops. >> Yeah, it's amazing. So, like you don't >> Yeah, it's amazing. So, like you don't >> Yeah, it's amazing. So, like you don't have to have the full systemic effect. have to have the full systemic effect. have to have the full systemic effect. This the the key to hormone replacement This the the key to hormone replacement This the the key to hormone replacement therapy is it's got to be personalized. therapy is it's got to be personalized. therapy is it's got to be personalized. It's there's not like a one-izefits-all. It's there's not like a one-izefits-all. It's there's not like a one-izefits-all. There's there's creams, there's drops, There's there's creams, there's drops, There's there's creams, there's drops, there's there's lozenes, there's there's there's there's lozenes, there's there's there's there's lozenes, there's there's all sorts of ways to deliver this, but all sorts of ways to deliver this, but all sorts of ways to deliver this, but it should be in the lowest dose possible it should be in the lowest dose possible it should be in the lowest dose possible to get the benefit. It should be to get the benefit. It should be to get the benefit. It should be topically, ideally, not orally. And it topically, ideally, not orally. And it topically, ideally, not orally. And it should be, you know, for the right should be, you know, for the right should be, you know, for the right amount of time for what a woman needs. amount of time for what a woman needs. amount of time for what a woman needs. And sometimes it's it's long term, but And sometimes it's it's long term, but And sometimes it's it's long term, but it's really something that has to be it's really something that has to be it's really something that has to be personalized. And again, most physicians personalized. And again, most physicians personalized. And again, most physicians have no clue how to do this. And it's have no clue how to do this. And it's have no clue how to do this. And it's not like you can just look up in your not like you can just look up in your not like you can just look up in your drug prescription book and see how to drug prescription book and see how to drug prescription book and see how to prescribe this because it doesn't exist prescribe this because it doesn't exist prescribe this because it doesn't exist in there. So you can look how to in there. So you can look how to in there. So you can look how to prescribe preman or promea but not not prescribe preman or promea but not not prescribe preman or promea but not not these formulations. So it's a really these formulations. So it's a really these formulations. So it's a really interesting learning curve as a interesting learning curve as a interesting learning curve as a physician to try to understand this. physician to try to understand this. physician to try to understand this. >> And you know what else I think is >> And you know what else I think is >> And you know what else I think is important to talk about when we think important to talk about when we think important to talk about when we think about our sexual health, not only things about our sexual health, not only things about our sexual health, not only things like these cleral drops, but I think as like these cleral drops, but I think as like these cleral drops, but I think as women, we have to start talking to our women, we have to start talking to our women, we have to start talking to our partners about it, right? That's how we partners about it, right? That's how we partners about it, right? That's how we destigmatize it and we make it less destigmatize it and we make it less destigmatize it and we make it less taboo. Uh we can take all the drops and taboo. Uh we can take all the drops and taboo. Uh we can take all the drops and take all the you know vaginal estrogen take all the you know vaginal estrogen take all the you know vaginal estrogen we want and we can use all the lubes we we want and we can use all the lubes we we want and we can use all the lubes we want but we have to start talking want but we have to start talking want but we have to start talking because 50% of marriages end at this because 50% of marriages end at this because 50% of marriages end at this time of life right because women our time of life right because women our time of life right because women our vaginas just dry up and men go get a vaginas just dry up and men go get a vaginas just dry up and men go get a young hot 25year-old get a red car and young hot 25year-old get a red car and young hot 25year-old get a red car and they go on with their life and we're they go on with their life and we're they go on with their life and we're stuck there just be you know getting stuck there just be you know getting stuck there just be you know getting old. So we have to talk about it. We old. So we have to talk about it. We old. So we have to talk about it. We have to have the courage to say to our have to have the courage to say to our have to have the courage to say to our partner, I'm in menopause or pmenopause partner, I'm in menopause or pmenopause partner, I'm in menopause or pmenopause and this is what is happening to my and this is what is happening to my and this is what is happening to my body. And I found that when we talk to body. And I found that when we talk to body. And I found that when we talk to our partners, talk to men about it, our partners, talk to men about it, our partners, talk to men about it, they're very receptive. You know, they're very receptive. You know, they're very receptive. You know, they're embarrassed at first. They don't they're embarrassed at first. They don't they're embarrassed at first. They don't want to talk about it. But when we force want to talk about it. But when we force want to talk about it. But when we force them to, I think men are right there. them to, I think men are right there. them to, I think men are right there. They're right there. And they feel They're right there. And they feel They're right there. And they feel relieved that you're talking with them. relieved that you're talking with them. relieved that you're talking with them. They feel relieved. They're They feel relieved. They're They feel relieved. They're understanding that there's not a understanding that there's not a understanding that there's not a breakdown in their marriage, but that breakdown in their marriage, but that breakdown in their marriage, but that you are just going through something you are just going through something you are just going through something that will pass. And you can go through that will pass. And you can go through that will pass. And you can go through it together. You don't have to go it together. You don't have to go it together. You don't have to go through this all by yourself. Ladies, we through this all by yourself. Ladies, we through this all by yourself. Ladies, we have to start the conversation with have to start the conversation with have to start the conversation with them. them. them. >> So, you know, because of, you know, your >> So, you know, because of, you know, your >> So, you know, because of, you know, your personal experience and this is usually personal experience and this is usually personal experience and this is usually how great things start in the world is how great things start in the world is how great things start in the world is somebody has a problem and they want to somebody has a problem and they want to somebody has a problem and they want to solve it and that's what happened to you solve it and that's what happened to you solve it and that's what happened to you and you started to respin. So, can you and you started to respin. So, can you and you started to respin. So, can you give us the reader judges version of give us the reader judges version of give us the reader judges version of what is respin and how members of the what is respin and how members of the what is respin and how members of the audience can actually join and audience can actually join and audience can actually join and >> it is hands down my second life passion. >> it is hands down my second life passion. >> it is hands down my second life passion. I am determined before I leave this I am determined before I leave this I am determined before I leave this planet to do everything I can to change planet to do everything I can to change planet to do everything I can to change the life for women, especially in in the life for women, especially in in the life for women, especially in in midlife. And why? Because we deserve it. midlife. And why? Because we deserve it. midlife. And why? Because we deserve it. And at Respin, we've got, like he said And at Respin, we've got, like he said And at Respin, we've got, like he said earlier, we've got expert doctors that earlier, we've got expert doctors that earlier, we've got expert doctors that are experts in our menopausal bodies. are experts in our menopausal bodies. are experts in our menopausal bodies. We've got access to the latest in We've got access to the latest in We've got access to the latest in science. We've got coaches that will science. We've got coaches that will science. We've got coaches that will hold your hand, walk you through your hold your hand, walk you through your hold your hand, walk you through your function uh studies that you get, help function uh studies that you get, help function uh studies that you get, help you be accountable to your optimal good you be accountable to your optimal good you be accountable to your optimal good health. We've got a beautiful community health. We've got a beautiful community health. We've got a beautiful community of women that are there to also laugh of women that are there to also laugh of women that are there to also laugh with you, cry with you, hold you up, with you, cry with you, hold you up, with you, cry with you, hold you up, hold you down. Um it's a 360 approach to hold you down. Um it's a 360 approach to hold you down. Um it's a 360 approach to wellness because we know and if you want wellness because we know and if you want wellness because we know and if you want hormones, we have a clinic that can also hormones, we have a clinic that can also hormones, we have a clinic that can also get you on hormones, help you dose those get you on hormones, help you dose those get you on hormones, help you dose those hormones, help you regulate. It's it hormones, help you regulate. It's it hormones, help you regulate. It's it it's if if we get this right for me it's if if we get this right for me it's if if we get this right for me before I leave this planet, it will be a before I leave this planet, it will be a before I leave this planet, it will be a menopause one-stop shop where women can menopause one-stop shop where women can menopause one-stop shop where women can come to a trusted place where they know come to a trusted place where they know come to a trusted place where they know that we've got you. And I'm learning that we've got you. And I'm learning that we've got you. And I'm learning every day. That's why I'm at this every day. That's why I'm at this every day. That's why I'm at this conference. I mean, I'm learning every conference. I mean, I'm learning every conference. I mean, I'm learning every day. I've been shot up with so many day. I've been shot up with so many day. I've been shot up with so many peptides here since I've been here. peptides here since I've been here. peptides here since I've been here. Ozone's up my nose and like all these Ozone's up my nose and like all these Ozone's up my nose and like all these things. And I'm all about trying to things. And I'm all about trying to things. And I'm all about trying to figure out how I can live my longest and figure out how I can live my longest and figure out how I can live my longest and healthiest life. And thank you for healthiest life. And thank you for healthiest life. And thank you for creating Respend which really gives creating Respend which really gives creating Respend which really gives women hope in a time that often can be women hope in a time that often can be women hope in a time that often can be very hopeless and very discouraging and very hopeless and very discouraging and very hopeless and very discouraging and very depressing. I mean you you shared very depressing. I mean you you shared very depressing. I mean you you shared you were having suicidal thoughts. So you were having suicidal thoughts. So you were having suicidal thoughts. So what's a moment of hope or a word of what's a moment of hope or a word of what's a moment of hope or a word of hope you can give to women listening who hope you can give to women listening who hope you can give to women listening who are in this position in your life and are in this position in your life and are in this position in your life and and how do they have agency and take and how do they have agency and take and how do they have agency and take control? control? control? >> Well, I'll tell you one good way we can >> Well, I'll tell you one good way we can >> Well, I'll tell you one good way we can have agency. Besides all the things have agency. Besides all the things have agency. Besides all the things you've heard us say today, I have this you've heard us say today, I have this you've heard us say today, I have this belief that in order for us as women to belief that in order for us as women to belief that in order for us as women to really start taking care of our health really start taking care of our health really start taking care of our health and feeling good about that, we have to and feeling good about that, we have to and feeling good about that, we have to change culture. We have to change the change culture. We have to change the change culture. We have to change the way we feel about ourselves at this way we feel about ourselves at this way we feel about ourselves at this time. And we have to do this, ladies. time. And we have to do this, ladies. time. And we have to do this, ladies. You know, so many of us have, we've had You know, so many of us have, we've had You know, so many of us have, we've had the Kool-Aid, too. We have to change our the Kool-Aid, too. We have to change our the Kool-Aid, too. We have to change our ticker tape. We have to have agency over ticker tape. We have to have agency over ticker tape. We have to have agency over this time of our life. And we have to this time of our life. And we have to this time of our life. And we have to force and I do say this force our family force and I do say this force our family force and I do say this force our family to celebrate us just like we have now to celebrate us just like we have now to celebrate us just like we have now understand that we celebrate our understand that we celebrate our understand that we celebrate our children with their bar mitzvah and children with their bar mitzvah and children with their bar mitzvah and their bach mitzvah. We have sweet 16 their bach mitzvah. We have sweet 16 their bach mitzvah. We have sweet 16 birthdays. We have baby showers and birthdays. We have baby showers and birthdays. We have baby showers and wedding showers like you know wedding showers like you know wedding showers like you know bachelorette parties. We celebrate these bachelorette parties. We celebrate these bachelorette parties. We celebrate these milestone times in our life. I think as milestone times in our life. I think as milestone times in our life. I think as women we have to start being celebrated women we have to start being celebrated women we have to start being celebrated when we are in the menopause with a when we are in the menopause with a when we are in the menopause with a shiesta. a shiesta shiesta. a shiesta shiesta. a shiesta >> shiesta because we deserve it, right? We >> shiesta because we deserve it, right? We >> shiesta because we deserve it, right? We are we are deserving of being are we are deserving of being are we are deserving of being celebrated, right? We are the matriarchs celebrated, right? We are the matriarchs celebrated, right? We are the matriarchs of our family. We are the wisest ones in of our family. We are the wisest ones in of our family. We are the wisest ones in our family. I'm going to have to tell our family. I'm going to have to tell our family. I'm going to have to tell you. And in other cultures, we are you. And in other cultures, we are you. And in other cultures, we are revered at this time of life. In our revered at this time of life. In our revered at this time of life. In our country, not so much anymore. And we country, not so much anymore. And we country, not so much anymore. And we have to change that. And I think a good have to change that. And I think a good have to change that. And I think a good way to change that is we make our way to change that is we make our way to change that is we make our families give us a shiesta and celebrate families give us a shiesta and celebrate families give us a shiesta and celebrate us and all that we are. It's one good us and all that we are. It's one good us and all that we are. It's one good thing we can start doing. thing we can start doing. thing we can start doing. >> Amazing. So, it's Shiesta time in >> Amazing. So, it's Shiesta time in >> Amazing. So, it's Shiesta time in America. Let's go. America. Let's go. America. Let's go. >> Shiesta. >> Shiesta. >> Shiesta. >> So, uh, now we have a little bit of time >> So, uh, now we have a little bit of time >> So, uh, now we have a little bit of time for Q&A. Oh, go ahead. Over here. for Q&A. Oh, go ahead. Over here. for Q&A. Oh, go ahead. Over here. >> What do you think about adding into the >> What do you think about adding into the >> What do you think about adding into the matrix is low toxing the the the food in matrix is low toxing the the the food in matrix is low toxing the the the food in your home, the air quality, the products your home, the air quality, the products your home, the air quality, the products that you're using to add extra support that you're using to add extra support that you're using to add extra support on top of that as another layer? on top of that as another layer? on top of that as another layer? >> Yeah. You want to take it? You want me >> Yeah. You want to take it? You want me >> Yeah. You want to take it? You want me to? I think this is such an important to? I think this is such an important to? I think this is such an important question and we didn't have time to question and we didn't have time to question and we didn't have time to touch on it but it's a huge issue which touch on it but it's a huge issue which touch on it but it's a huge issue which is is is industrial petrochemicals which are in industrial petrochemicals which are in industrial petrochemicals which are in everything from makeup to household everything from makeup to household everything from makeup to household cleaners cleaners cleaners uh to skinare products uh to skinare products uh to skinare products >> to our food to pesticides >> to our food to pesticides >> to our food to pesticides are what we call xenoestrogens. are what we call xenoestrogens. are what we call xenoestrogens. They're foreign estrogens and they're They're foreign estrogens and they're They're foreign estrogens and they're highly bioactive and they're not just highly bioactive and they're not just highly bioactive and they're not just additive, they're synergistic. So 1 plus additive, they're synergistic. So 1 plus additive, they're synergistic. So 1 plus one doesn't equal two, it equals a one doesn't equal two, it equals a one doesn't equal two, it equals a thousand. And this is why we're seeing thousand. And this is why we're seeing thousand. And this is why we're seeing such increasing rates of breast cancer such increasing rates of breast cancer such increasing rates of breast cancer and uterine cancer and and ovarian and uterine cancer and and ovarian and uterine cancer and and ovarian cancer. And I I think it's not really cancer. And I I think it's not really cancer. And I I think it's not really well appreciated, but is a huge issue. well appreciated, but is a huge issue. well appreciated, but is a huge issue. And I think learning how to detox your And I think learning how to detox your And I think learning how to detox your life is so important. That's why I'm in life is so important. That's why I'm in life is so important. That's why I'm in the board of the environmental working the board of the environmental working the board of the environmental working group and it's a great resource ewg.org. group and it's a great resource ewg.org. group and it's a great resource ewg.org. It's a nonprofit that actually It's a nonprofit that actually It's a nonprofit that actually investigates all the products that are investigates all the products that are investigates all the products that are in use in our household products and our in use in our household products and our in use in our household products and our skincare products and our cleaning skincare products and our cleaning skincare products and our cleaning products and our uh food and everything. products and our uh food and everything. products and our uh food and everything. And how do we reduce that burden? And And how do we reduce that burden? And And how do we reduce that burden? And and it can be by you know just simple and it can be by you know just simple and it can be by you know just simple things like watching which food you eat things like watching which food you eat things like watching which food you eat organically and filtering your water and organically and filtering your water and organically and filtering your water and having an air filter in your house and having an air filter in your house and having an air filter in your house and using skincare products that are using skincare products that are using skincare products that are non-toxic and using household cleaning non-toxic and using household cleaning non-toxic and using household cleaning products that are non-toxic. it it it products that are non-toxic. it it it products that are non-toxic. it it it you don't have to be doing everything you don't have to be doing everything you don't have to be doing everything overnight, but it's important to start overnight, but it's important to start overnight, but it's important to start to do that and just start to shift the to do that and just start to shift the to do that and just start to shift the products you're using so that you're not products you're using so that you're not products you're using so that you're not adding to the load because the the adding to the load because the the adding to the load because the the they're really a big factor. And then they're really a big factor. And then they're really a big factor. And then there's a whole process of biological there's a whole process of biological there's a whole process of biological detoxification which is a big part of detoxification which is a big part of detoxification which is a big part of functional medicine. So I could talk functional medicine. So I could talk functional medicine. So I could talk about that for hours, but we got only about that for hours, but we got only about that for hours, but we got only got a few minutes. So I encourage people got a few minutes. So I encourage people got a few minutes. So I encourage people to check that out, but it's it's it's a to check that out, but it's it's it's a to check that out, but it's it's it's a very important question. Thank you for very important question. Thank you for very important question. Thank you for bringing that up. I was wondering if you bringing that up. I was wondering if you bringing that up. I was wondering if you uh considered uh a part of uh uh us uh considered uh a part of uh uh us uh considered uh a part of uh uh us women going through life which is women going through life which is women going through life which is energetic and it has to do with energetic and it has to do with energetic and it has to do with dissociation whether this is something dissociation whether this is something dissociation whether this is something that is being included in the that is being included in the that is being included in the consideration of uh uh taking women back consideration of uh uh taking women back consideration of uh uh taking women back to to to >> you mean like psychosspiritual >> you mean like psychosspiritual >> you mean like psychosspiritual integration is that what you're talking integration is that what you're talking integration is that what you're talking about about about >> to me it's energetic structural it's not >> to me it's energetic structural it's not >> to me it's energetic structural it's not the psychospiritual it's kind of the psychospiritual it's kind of the psychospiritual it's kind of flawless. flawless. flawless. >> Yeah. I mean, sure. I mean, it's it's >> Yeah. I mean, sure. I mean, it's it's >> Yeah. I mean, sure. I mean, it's it's all part of it. Energy medicine and all all part of it. Energy medicine and all all part of it. Energy medicine and all of that is is part of realigning of that is is part of realigning of that is is part of realigning yourself with, you know, nature and your yourself with, you know, nature and your yourself with, you know, nature and your life in a way that helps align your life in a way that helps align your life in a way that helps align your biology. And I think there's a lot of biology. And I think there's a lot of biology. And I think there's a lot of data on that, but it's it's a little data on that, but it's it's a little data on that, but it's it's a little woowoo, but I think there's a lot of woowoo, but I think there's a lot of woowoo, but I think there's a lot of reality to it. reality to it. reality to it. My question very simply, how common is My question very simply, how common is My question very simply, how common is it to miss to to to not have the it to miss to to to not have the it to miss to to to not have the symptoms to miss the the premenopause, symptoms to miss the the premenopause, symptoms to miss the the premenopause, the the everything we're talking about the the everything we're talking about the the everything we're talking about here? Is it genetic? Is it is it is here? Is it genetic? Is it is it is here? Is it genetic? Is it is it is there lot people that miss it a there lot people that miss it a there lot people that miss it a percentage? percentage? percentage? I think that's a good question. That's I think that's a good question. That's I think that's a good question. That's why we need more research and more why we need more research and more why we need more research and more studies to really find that out. But I studies to really find that out. But I studies to really find that out. But I know that there are people that have know that there are people that have know that there are people that have said to me, I have had no symptoms of said to me, I have had no symptoms of said to me, I have had no symptoms of menopause. But that's when I go back and menopause. But that's when I go back and menopause. But that's when I go back and I say to them, you might be having hot I say to them, you might be having hot I say to them, you might be having hot flashes that are causing adverse effects flashes that are causing adverse effects flashes that are causing adverse effects to your braids, but you just don't feel to your braids, but you just don't feel to your braids, but you just don't feel it. And I think there are many symptoms it. And I think there are many symptoms it. And I think there are many symptoms of menopause that people don't associate of menopause that people don't associate of menopause that people don't associate yet with menopause because we're still yet with menopause because we're still yet with menopause because we're still uncovering what those symptoms actually uncovering what those symptoms actually uncovering what those symptoms actually are. Right? So, some women do say they are. Right? So, some women do say they are. Right? So, some women do say they don't suffer very much and they say they don't suffer very much and they say they don't suffer very much and they say they sail through it, but I'm not so sure sail through it, but I'm not so sure sail through it, but I'm not so sure that they haven't had some symptoms that that they haven't had some symptoms that that they haven't had some symptoms that have caused them some adverse effect. So have caused them some adverse effect. So have caused them some adverse effect. So that's why more research is I think very that's why more research is I think very that's why more research is I think very very necessary to keep understanding very necessary to keep understanding very necessary to keep understanding what are symptoms and you know what what what are symptoms and you know what what what are symptoms and you know what what we are suffering from that we don't even we are suffering from that we don't even we are suffering from that we don't even know. know. know. >> That's true. And I also think you're >> That's true. And I also think you're >> That's true. And I also think you're right. I mean there's a wide variety of right. I mean there's a wide variety of right. I mean there's a wide variety of experiences that women have. Some women experiences that women have. Some women experiences that women have. Some women have very minimal symptoms or no have very minimal symptoms or no have very minimal symptoms or no symptoms. Some women have a lot of symptoms. Some women have a lot of symptoms. Some women have a lot of symptoms. And and it it can be partly symptoms. And and it it can be partly symptoms. And and it it can be partly genetic. It can be environmental. But genetic. It can be environmental. But genetic. It can be environmental. But also it's it's lifestyle. It's one of also it's it's lifestyle. It's one of also it's it's lifestyle. It's one of the biggest drivers. In Japan they don't the biggest drivers. In Japan they don't the biggest drivers. In Japan they don't even have a word for hot flashes, even have a word for hot flashes, even have a word for hot flashes, >> right? You know, and it's it's because, >> right? You know, and it's it's because, >> right? You know, and it's it's because, you know, diet is full of soy and and you know, diet is full of soy and and you know, diet is full of soy and and fermented foods and other things that fermented foods and other things that fermented foods and other things that change hormones. So, your hormones just change hormones. So, your hormones just change hormones. So, your hormones just food is medicine. So, your hormones are food is medicine. So, your hormones are food is medicine. So, your hormones are regulated by what you're eating, regulated by what you're eating, regulated by what you're eating, >> by stress, by environmental toxins, by >> by stress, by environmental toxins, by >> by stress, by environmental toxins, by your gut microbiome, by the level of your gut microbiome, by the level of your gut microbiome, by the level of activity you have, by your sleep activity you have, by your sleep activity you have, by your sleep patterns, by your circadian rhythms, and patterns, by your circadian rhythms, and patterns, by your circadian rhythms, and I could go on and on. So, so we know how I could go on and on. So, so we know how I could go on and on. So, so we know how to modify those those systems in the to modify those those systems in the to modify those those systems in the body and create optimal health. There is body and create optimal health. There is body and create optimal health. There is a transition and things do happen and a transition and things do happen and a transition and things do happen and there are symptoms that can happen over there are symptoms that can happen over there are symptoms that can happen over time but but they they can be minimal time but but they they can be minimal time but but they they can be minimal for many women. for many women. for many women. >> Yeah. And also black and brown women >> Yeah. And also black and brown women >> Yeah. And also black and brown women suffer exponentially more. suffer exponentially more. suffer exponentially more. >> A lot more. Yeah. >> A lot more. Yeah. >> A lot more. Yeah. >> And I would wonder I'm curious to know >> And I would wonder I'm curious to know >> And I would wonder I'm curious to know why that is. We need more resources. why that is. We need more resources. why that is. We need more resources. >> I think your question is important >> I think your question is important >> I think your question is important because you know in America in the 1960s because you know in America in the 1960s because you know in America in the 1960s African-American populations were far African-American populations were far African-American populations were far healthier than white populations. And I healthier than white populations. And I healthier than white populations. And I remember watching this documentary about remember watching this documentary about remember watching this documentary about Artha Franklin, Amazing Grace. And you Artha Franklin, Amazing Grace. And you Artha Franklin, Amazing Grace. And you look in the church in Oakland. It was in look in the church in Oakland. It was in look in the church in Oakland. It was in a single overweight African-American in a single overweight African-American in a single overweight African-American in that movie. And and then what happened that movie. And and then what happened that movie. And and then what happened was that they got targeted by the food was that they got targeted by the food was that they got targeted by the food industry in a very malicious and industry in a very malicious and industry in a very malicious and deliberate way. And they then consume deliberate way. And they then consume deliberate way. And they then consume far more soda, far more junk food, far far more soda, far more junk food, far far more soda, far more junk food, far more processed food. And and uh that's more processed food. And and uh that's more processed food. And and uh that's why they have now far higher rates of why they have now far higher rates of why they have now far higher rates of diabetes, kidney failure, hypertension, diabetes, kidney failure, hypertension, diabetes, kidney failure, hypertension, cardiovascular disease, early death, cardiovascular disease, early death, cardiovascular disease, early death, mortality, morbidity. Why we're 30% of mortality, morbidity. Why we're 30% of mortality, morbidity. Why we're 30% of the population in New Orleans in Chicago the population in New Orleans in Chicago the population in New Orleans in Chicago were 70% of the COVID deaths. That's why were 70% of the COVID deaths. That's why were 70% of the COVID deaths. That's why because it's not it's not some genetic because it's not it's not some genetic because it's not it's not some genetic abnormality is because of our our abnormality is because of our our abnormality is because of our our embedded I I call it kind of food embedded I I call it kind of food embedded I I call it kind of food racism. racism. racism. >> Where do you see medical schools in >> Where do you see medical schools in >> Where do you see medical schools in America updating curriculum America updating curriculum America updating curriculum to include menopause and other things to include menopause and other things to include menopause and other things that we have seen here this weekend? that we have seen here this weekend? that we have seen here this weekend? Well, I know that I've been to Well, I know that I've been to Well, I know that I've been to Washington several times now to pass a Washington several times now to pass a Washington several times now to pass a bill, a a $265 million bill that will do bill, a a $265 million bill that will do bill, a a $265 million bill that will do just that. It will arm schools with the just that. It will arm schools with the just that. It will arm schools with the funding so that doctors can go back and funding so that doctors can go back and funding so that doctors can go back and be re retoled and that more programs can be re retoled and that more programs can be re retoled and that more programs can be implemented in schools. And I think be implemented in schools. And I think be implemented in schools. And I think we are starting that slowly as we keep we are starting that slowly as we keep we are starting that slowly as we keep having this conversation and we keep having this conversation and we keep having this conversation and we keep talking about menopause and bringing it talking about menopause and bringing it talking about menopause and bringing it to the forefront. I think it's putting a to the forefront. I think it's putting a to the forefront. I think it's putting a lot of pressure on institutions to, you lot of pressure on institutions to, you lot of pressure on institutions to, you know, further education. know, further education. know, further education. >> Yeah, I think that's really important. >> Yeah, I think that's really important. >> Yeah, I think that's really important. And I'm also involved in medical And I'm also involved in medical And I'm also involved in medical education reform in Washington right education reform in Washington right education reform in Washington right now, which is finding ways to use our now, which is finding ways to use our now, which is finding ways to use our existing laws to mandate medical schools existing laws to mandate medical schools existing laws to mandate medical schools and post-graduate medical education and post-graduate medical education and post-graduate medical education programs, residencies, and fellowships programs, residencies, and fellowships programs, residencies, and fellowships to include mandatory nutrition to include mandatory nutrition to include mandatory nutrition education, change our licing exams education, change our licing exams education, change our licing exams because unless those change, nothing because unless those change, nothing because unless those change, nothing will change. Can you also speak about sexual health Can you also speak about sexual health and how Joy Lux came to be? and how Joy Lux came to be? and how Joy Lux came to be? >> Joy Lux. Yes. >> Joy Lux. Yes. >> Joy Lux. Yes. um because that that was my entry into um because that that was my entry into um because that that was my entry into realizing that I was in uh pmenopause realizing that I was in uh pmenopause realizing that I was in uh pmenopause and um I was trying to you know fix my and um I was trying to you know fix my and um I was trying to you know fix my own problem and I came across Joy Lux own problem and I came across Joy Lux own problem and I came across Joy Lux and their red light therapy device um and their red light therapy device um and their red light therapy device um which is a vaginal device that sort of which is a vaginal device that sort of which is a vaginal device that sort of helps build collagen and moisture and helps build collagen and moisture and helps build collagen and moisture and you know and that worked for me. So I you know and that worked for me. So I you know and that worked for me. So I reached out to the head of the company reached out to the head of the company reached out to the head of the company and I said hey what is this company? and I said hey what is this company? and I said hey what is this company? This actually moved my needle. What is This actually moved my needle. What is This actually moved my needle. What is this? And so she allowed me to get this? And so she allowed me to get this? And so she allowed me to get involved. And the next product I needed involved. And the next product I needed involved. And the next product I needed was some sort of lubrication product. So was some sort of lubrication product. So was some sort of lubrication product. So I teamed up with them and we came up I teamed up with them and we came up I teamed up with them and we came up with this I think a beautiful product with this I think a beautiful product with this I think a beautiful product called Let Spin. It's clean. It's called Let Spin. It's clean. It's called Let Spin. It's clean. It's hyaluronic acid aloe vera. Um it's not hyaluronic acid aloe vera. Um it's not hyaluronic acid aloe vera. Um it's not sticky. It's you know it's uh if you are sticky. It's you know it's uh if you are sticky. It's you know it's uh if you are very sensitive in that area, it's clean very sensitive in that area, it's clean very sensitive in that area, it's clean for you. So uh that's been a beautiful for you. So uh that's been a beautiful for you. So uh that's been a beautiful partnership and we're working on other partnership and we're working on other partnership and we're working on other products. products. products. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you so much. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Hi Mark. Talia from beyond Ibang. You >> Hi Mark. Talia from beyond Ibang. You >> Hi Mark. Talia from beyond Ibang. You just came from us. Um just want to talk just came from us. Um just want to talk just came from us. Um just want to talk about psychedelics and the mind body about psychedelics and the mind body about psychedelics and the mind body connection where where this is heading connection where where this is heading connection where where this is heading in wellness in general. in wellness in general. in wellness in general. >> You know, I've spoken about this a few >> You know, I've spoken about this a few >> You know, I've spoken about this a few times at the conference, but I think times at the conference, but I think times at the conference, but I think we're in a twin psychiatric revolution. we're in a twin psychiatric revolution. we're in a twin psychiatric revolution. Uh mental health is a massive crisis. Uh mental health is a massive crisis. Uh mental health is a massive crisis. Diabetes, you know, causes more Diabetes, you know, causes more Diabetes, you know, causes more hospitalizations and and deaths, but hospitalizations and and deaths, but hospitalizations and and deaths, but mental health causes far more loss of mental health causes far more loss of mental health causes far more loss of what we call quality of life years and what we call quality of life years and what we call quality of life years and more disability and more dysfunction and more disability and more dysfunction and more disability and more dysfunction and more disruption in families and work and more disruption in families and work and more disruption in families and work and social life. And I it it's incredibly social life. And I it it's incredibly social life. And I it it's incredibly poorly dealt with in America and across poorly dealt with in America and across poorly dealt with in America and across the globe. And the twin psychiatric the globe. And the twin psychiatric the globe. And the twin psychiatric revolutions are metabolic and revolutions are metabolic and revolutions are metabolic and nutritional psychiatry and functional nutritional psychiatry and functional nutritional psychiatry and functional medicine psychiatry and psychedelic medicine psychiatry and psychedelic medicine psychiatry and psychedelic psychiatry. And uh Rick Doblin was here psychiatry. And uh Rick Doblin was here psychiatry. And uh Rick Doblin was here and there was a talk today on ibeane. and there was a talk today on ibeane. and there was a talk today on ibeane. And I think these are going to unlock a And I think these are going to unlock a And I think these are going to unlock a lot of things that deal with both the lot of things that deal with both the lot of things that deal with both the biology biology biology of of of what causes uh mental health issues what causes uh mental health issues what causes uh mental health issues which is often from the body, right? I which is often from the body, right? I which is often from the body, right? I mean, you were depressed, hie, not cuz mean, you were depressed, hie, not cuz mean, you were depressed, hie, not cuz you were inherently depressed, because you were inherently depressed, because you were inherently depressed, because your hormones were out of whack. It was your hormones were out of whack. It was your hormones were out of whack. It was biological. You have to treat the body biological. You have to treat the body biological. You have to treat the body in order to treat the brain. And I wrote in order to treat the brain. And I wrote in order to treat the brain. And I wrote a book about this 15 years ago called a book about this 15 years ago called a book about this 15 years ago called the ultra mind solution. How to fix your the ultra mind solution. How to fix your the ultra mind solution. How to fix your broken brain by fixing your body first. broken brain by fixing your body first. broken brain by fixing your body first. So that's really important and that's So that's really important and that's So that's really important and that's what's happening right now across the what's happening right now across the what's happening right now across the science the science world. At Stanford science the science world. At Stanford science the science world. At Stanford and Harvard, there's departments of and Harvard, there's departments of and Harvard, there's departments of metabolic nutritional psychiatry. terms metabolic nutritional psychiatry. terms metabolic nutritional psychiatry. terms of psychedelic psychiatry, that's also of psychedelic psychiatry, that's also of psychedelic psychiatry, that's also advancing, which deals with a lot of our advancing, which deals with a lot of our advancing, which deals with a lot of our deep wounds and traumas and the deep wounds and traumas and the deep wounds and traumas and the operating systems that get installed operating systems that get installed operating systems that get installed when we're kids that drive our life and when we're kids that drive our life and when we're kids that drive our life and cause us to be, you know, cause us to be, you know, cause us to be, you know, seven-year-olds or 10-year-olds in seven-year-olds or 10-year-olds in seven-year-olds or 10-year-olds in relationships that really disrupt our relationships that really disrupt our relationships that really disrupt our life. Whether it's relationships with life. Whether it's relationships with life. Whether it's relationships with oursel or with our partners or with work oursel or with our partners or with work oursel or with our partners or with work or with friends or or our families, or with friends or or our families, or with friends or or our families, those those are really hard things to those those are really hard things to those those are really hard things to change. And I think psychedelic medicine change. And I think psychedelic medicine change. And I think psychedelic medicine is is a powerful tool to help unlock is is a powerful tool to help unlock is is a powerful tool to help unlock that source code that that drives a lot that source code that that drives a lot that source code that that drives a lot of our lives and can free us from the of our lives and can free us from the of our lives and can free us from the burden of those things we carry around burden of those things we carry around burden of those things we carry around from us with us for for our lifetime. So from us with us for for our lifetime. So from us with us for for our lifetime. So I think those twin revolutions are I think those twin revolutions are I think those twin revolutions are really emerging rapidly and I think really emerging rapidly and I think really emerging rapidly and I think hopefully over the next 5 to 10 years hopefully over the next 5 to 10 years hopefully over the next 5 to 10 years are going to become more mainstream and are going to become more mainstream and are going to become more mainstream and more accessible and more um paid for by more accessible and more um paid for by more accessible and more um paid for by healthcare and insurance. Thanks to Hie healthcare and insurance. Thanks to Hie healthcare and insurance. 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