Exiled Iranian Prince Reza Pahlavi: Transition Plan and the Fight for Iran's Freedom

All right, everybody. Welcome back to All right, everybody. Welcome back to part two of the All-In podcast, episode part two of the All-In podcast, episode part two of the All-In podcast, episode 263. We promised you a part two because 263. We promised you a part two because 263. We promised you a part two because we are very lucky that my dear friend we are very lucky that my dear friend we are very lucky that my dear friend Shvvin Pishavar was able to set up a Shvvin Pishavar was able to set up a Shvvin Pishavar was able to set up a very important historic interview for us very important historic interview for us very important historic interview for us today. None other than Prince Resa Pavi today. None other than Prince Resa Pavi today. None other than Prince Resa Pavi is here and we have a limited amount of is here and we have a limited amount of is here and we have a limited amount of time with you uh Reza. And uh may I call time with you uh Reza. And uh may I call time with you uh Reza. And uh may I call you Resa or should I call you Prince you Resa or should I call you Prince you Resa or should I call you Prince Resa? Resa? Resa? >> Sorry. Thank you. [laughter] >> Sorry. Thank you. [laughter] >> Sorry. Thank you. [laughter] >> Uh, >> Uh, >> Uh, >> thank you for having me on your program. >> thank you for having me on your program. >> thank you for having me on your program. >> It It's great to have you and this is a >> It It's great to have you and this is a >> It It's great to have you and this is a moment I think you've been waiting 47 moment I think you've been waiting 47 moment I think you've been waiting 47 close to 50 years for which is we are at close to 50 years for which is we are at close to 50 years for which is we are at this moment in time looking at this moment in time looking at this moment in time looking at potentially the people of Iran being potentially the people of Iran being potentially the people of Iran being free. You left the country and when you free. You left the country and when you free. You left the country and when you were 17 years old to become a pilot and were 17 years old to become a pilot and were 17 years old to become a pilot and now you are looking to help your people now you are looking to help your people now you are looking to help your people with a transition post this military with a transition post this military with a transition post this military activity this operation activity this operation activity this operation essentially a war that's going on right essentially a war that's going on right essentially a war that's going on right now that we all hope gets resolved now that we all hope gets resolved now that we all hope gets resolved quickly. quickly. quickly. I think people would love to know what I think people would love to know what I think people would love to know what is your vision for Iran post this uh is your vision for Iran post this uh is your vision for Iran post this uh military action. military action. military action. >> Well, thank you again for the >> Well, thank you again for the >> Well, thank you again for the opportunity. Before I get into that, I opportunity. Before I get into that, I opportunity. Before I get into that, I wanted to simply uh stress the wanted to simply uh stress the wanted to simply uh stress the importance of this intervention that to importance of this intervention that to importance of this intervention that to us was like a rescue mission. It was us was like a rescue mission. It was us was like a rescue mission. It was literally an a humanitarian intervention literally an a humanitarian intervention literally an a humanitarian intervention to protect more lives that would to protect more lives that would to protect more lives that would otherwise be lost under this extremely otherwise be lost under this extremely otherwise be lost under this extremely brutal and repressive regime that as you brutal and repressive regime that as you brutal and repressive regime that as you know has massacred as of late uh tens of know has massacred as of late uh tens of know has massacred as of late uh tens of thousands of innocent and unarmed thousands of innocent and unarmed thousands of innocent and unarmed citizens in order to equalize the citizens in order to equalize the citizens in order to equalize the playing field. This was a much needed uh playing field. This was a much needed uh playing field. This was a much needed uh intervention that a lot of Iranians intervention that a lot of Iranians intervention that a lot of Iranians asked for and fortunately it did happen. asked for and fortunately it did happen. asked for and fortunately it did happen. But what's the next step? Where are we But what's the next step? Where are we But what's the next step? Where are we headed to? The most obvious question headed to? The most obvious question headed to? The most obvious question will be once the regime collapses how do will be once the regime collapses how do will be once the regime collapses how do we manage the transition. I've stepped we manage the transition. I've stepped we manage the transition. I've stepped in to lead this transition with the help in to lead this transition with the help in to lead this transition with the help of many of my compatriots from various of many of my compatriots from various of many of my compatriots from various sectors. We believe that a stable sectors. We believe that a stable sectors. We believe that a stable transition will lead to a address the transition will lead to a address the transition will lead to a address the immediate needs of the country but then immediate needs of the country but then immediate needs of the country but then set the country on a path of set the country on a path of set the country on a path of redevelopment and reconstruction which redevelopment and reconstruction which redevelopment and reconstruction which is of course something that we were is of course something that we were is of course something that we were always hoping for that could not have always hoping for that could not have always hoping for that could not have happened under this corrupt mafiaike happened under this corrupt mafiaike happened under this corrupt mafiaike regime. Iran should have been had it not regime. Iran should have been had it not regime. Iran should have been had it not been for the revolution today's South been for the revolution today's South been for the revolution today's South Korea of the region. Instead, it has Korea of the region. Instead, it has Korea of the region. Instead, it has become the North Korea of the region. become the North Korea of the region. become the North Korea of the region. Why? Not because our people are not Why? Not because our people are not Why? Not because our people are not gifted or talented or capable, not gifted or talented or capable, not gifted or talented or capable, not because we lack uh natural resources. because we lack uh natural resources. because we lack uh natural resources. It's simply because of a corrupt bad It's simply because of a corrupt bad It's simply because of a corrupt bad management and a regime that basically management and a regime that basically management and a regime that basically took our country hostage, used it as a took our country hostage, used it as a took our country hostage, used it as a launching pad to export an ideology. And launching pad to export an ideology. And launching pad to export an ideology. And that's why we are here today. A that's why we are here today. A that's why we are here today. A different Iran, a democratic secular different Iran, a democratic secular different Iran, a democratic secular Iran will first and foremost bring about Iran will first and foremost bring about Iran will first and foremost bring about the opportunities to our nation. But it the opportunities to our nation. But it the opportunities to our nation. But it will open Iran for business again. Iran will open Iran for business again. Iran will open Iran for business again. Iran is one of the most untapped is one of the most untapped is one of the most untapped economic opportunities of the 21st economic opportunities of the 21st economic opportunities of the 21st century. And it could tremendously uh century. And it could tremendously uh century. And it could tremendously uh change the shape of our world in terms change the shape of our world in terms change the shape of our world in terms of what would be beneficial to the of what would be beneficial to the of what would be beneficial to the Iranian people of course but also from Iranian people of course but also from Iranian people of course but also from the vantage point of a country like the the vantage point of a country like the the vantage point of a country like the United States and billions of dollars United States and billions of dollars United States and billions of dollars that will be generated as a result of that will be generated as a result of that will be generated as a result of doing business in Iran. We figure about doing business in Iran. We figure about doing business in Iran. We figure about 1 trillion in the first 10 years to the 1 trillion in the first 10 years to the 1 trillion in the first 10 years to the US market but also billions of dollars US market but also billions of dollars US market but also billions of dollars that will be invested into Iran and that will be invested into Iran and that will be invested into Iran and everything that we need to have done in everything that we need to have done in everything that we need to have done in order to rebuild our country. These are order to rebuild our country. These are order to rebuild our country. These are crazy opportunities that uh we can look crazy opportunities that uh we can look crazy opportunities that uh we can look forward to. And it all starts with uh forward to. And it all starts with uh forward to. And it all starts with uh moving towards this recovery and moving towards this recovery and moving towards this recovery and transition. And when your father was in transition. And when your father was in transition. And when your father was in charge, it was a monarchy turned into a charge, it was a monarchy turned into a charge, it was a monarchy turned into a dictatorship. And to be clear, the hope dictatorship. And to be clear, the hope dictatorship. And to be clear, the hope now is to evolve into a democracy with now is to evolve into a democracy with now is to evolve into a democracy with free elections for the people. Average free elections for the people. Average free elections for the people. Average age of people in Iran now early 30s, 31, age of people in Iran now early 30s, 31, age of people in Iran now early 30s, 31, 32 years old. What would that look like? 32 years old. What would that look like? 32 years old. What would that look like? what is a possible timeline and you are what is a possible timeline and you are what is a possible timeline and you are uh have said on other programs and on uh have said on other programs and on uh have said on other programs and on your YouTube channel which I suggest your YouTube channel which I suggest your YouTube channel which I suggest everybody go search for and follow right everybody go search for and follow right everybody go search for and follow right now because you're speaking directly to now because you're speaking directly to now because you're speaking directly to the people on X and on your YouTube the people on X and on your YouTube the people on X and on your YouTube channel. What is what is the condition channel. What is what is the condition channel. What is what is the condition on the ground from the people you're on the ground from the people you're on the ground from the people you're talking to? You said you've been talking talking to? You said you've been talking talking to? You said you've been talking to uh people in the military, civilians to uh people in the military, civilians to uh people in the military, civilians and other leadership. They're ready to and other leadership. They're ready to and other leadership. They're ready to move on. What's the timeline and what move on. What's the timeline and what move on. What's the timeline and what are they telling you is happening on the are they telling you is happening on the are they telling you is happening on the ground today as we sit here? ground today as we sit here? ground today as we sit here? >> Well, I think that now the playing field >> Well, I think that now the playing field >> Well, I think that now the playing field has been equalized, meaning that the has been equalized, meaning that the has been equalized, meaning that the people could finally, of course, people could finally, of course, people could finally, of course, awaiting the end of this campaign have a awaiting the end of this campaign have a awaiting the end of this campaign have a better opportunity to re-engage the better opportunity to re-engage the better opportunity to re-engage the streets and take over uh their homeland. streets and take over uh their homeland. streets and take over uh their homeland. uh of course part of the equation is how uh of course part of the equation is how uh of course part of the equation is how much implosion from within the regime much implosion from within the regime much implosion from within the regime and how much defections from the regime and how much defections from the regime and how much defections from the regime in the sense of joining with the people in the sense of joining with the people in the sense of joining with the people this time and not be an instrument that this time and not be an instrument that this time and not be an instrument that will halt the people's progress but will halt the people's progress but will halt the people's progress but instead help the people in that instead help the people in that instead help the people in that transition meaning uh whether people are transition meaning uh whether people are transition meaning uh whether people are in the military or security forces as in the military or security forces as in the military or security forces as well as the civilian bureaucracy unlike well as the civilian bureaucracy unlike well as the civilian bureaucracy unlike what happened after the fall of Saddam what happened after the fall of Saddam what happened after the fall of Saddam Hussein and debatification the scenario Hussein and debatification the scenario Hussein and debatification the scenario of change in Iran is totally different of change in Iran is totally different of change in Iran is totally different and let's not forget Iran is a multiple and let's not forget Iran is a multiple and let's not forget Iran is a multiple century old nation state. It's a country century old nation state. It's a country century old nation state. It's a country that is extremely unified and united for that is extremely unified and united for that is extremely unified and united for this common purpose. Under this tent, we this common purpose. Under this tent, we this common purpose. Under this tent, we have diverse uh groups that are joining have diverse uh groups that are joining have diverse uh groups that are joining in this national campaign. People who in this national campaign. People who in this national campaign. People who are on the right, the center, the left, are on the right, the center, the left, are on the right, the center, the left, monarchists, Republicans, ethnic groups, monarchists, Republicans, ethnic groups, monarchists, Republicans, ethnic groups, religious groups, every sector of religious groups, every sector of religious groups, every sector of society is engaged. I have had society is engaged. I have had society is engaged. I have had tremendous amount of support coming from tremendous amount of support coming from tremendous amount of support coming from inside Iran. We have the support of the inside Iran. We have the support of the inside Iran. We have the support of the uh intelligencia. We have the support of uh intelligencia. We have the support of uh intelligencia. We have the support of universities. We have the support of the universities. We have the support of the universities. We have the support of the working class. We have the support of uh working class. We have the support of uh working class. We have the support of uh the diaspora that can bring a lot to the diaspora that can bring a lot to the diaspora that can bring a lot to this equation. I think this is a good this equation. I think this is a good this equation. I think this is a good recipe that will allow us to manage this recipe that will allow us to manage this recipe that will allow us to manage this transition but set the country to clean transition but set the country to clean transition but set the country to clean up, be ready for business and create the up, be ready for business and create the up, be ready for business and create the opportunities that will finally impact opportunities that will finally impact opportunities that will finally impact first and foremost Iranians who have first and foremost Iranians who have first and foremost Iranians who have been starving as a result of this been starving as a result of this been starving as a result of this regime's corruption, but have a true regime's corruption, but have a true regime's corruption, but have a true opportunity to get back on track and opportunity to get back on track and opportunity to get back on track and improve their livelihood. And I think improve their livelihood. And I think improve their livelihood. And I think it's also good for those who partner it's also good for those who partner it's also good for those who partner with us in this process because there's with us in this process because there's with us in this process because there's a lot to be uh done that will be win-win a lot to be uh done that will be win-win a lot to be uh done that will be win-win as opposed to be lose-lose to the as opposed to be lose-lose to the as opposed to be lose-lose to the benefit of this corrupt regime. That has benefit of this corrupt regime. That has benefit of this corrupt regime. That has been the story of the past almost five been the story of the past almost five been the story of the past almost five decades. So the difference lies about decades. So the difference lies about decades. So the difference lies about this change and how crucial it is. And this change and how crucial it is. And this change and how crucial it is. And of course the reason we want to have a of course the reason we want to have a of course the reason we want to have a secular democracy, the final form to be secular democracy, the final form to be secular democracy, the final form to be determined by the people of Iran through determined by the people of Iran through determined by the people of Iran through pre-elections and a constitutional pre-elections and a constitutional pre-elections and a constitutional process. But most importantly is that process. But most importantly is that process. But most importantly is that under equality and the rule of law, all under equality and the rule of law, all under equality and the rule of law, all the opportunities that has been denied the opportunities that has been denied the opportunities that has been denied our nation as a result of his our nation as a result of his our nation as a result of his discrimination, as a result of uh pretty discrimination, as a result of uh pretty discrimination, as a result of uh pretty much disenfring the majority of much disenfring the majority of much disenfring the majority of Iranians, now it creates a true Iranians, now it creates a true Iranians, now it creates a true opportunity. And as I said earlier, I opportunity. And as I said earlier, I opportunity. And as I said earlier, I think Iranians are quite gifted. As much think Iranians are quite gifted. As much think Iranians are quite gifted. As much as it is attractive to uh an as it is attractive to uh an as it is attractive to uh an entrepreneurs in the outside world entrepreneurs in the outside world entrepreneurs in the outside world looking in, there are so many gifted and looking in, there are so many gifted and looking in, there are so many gifted and talented young Iranians who will have a talented young Iranians who will have a talented young Iranians who will have a fair chance this time, a true chance for fair chance this time, a true chance for fair chance this time, a true chance for being uh using all their creativity and being uh using all their creativity and being uh using all their creativity and genius uh to bring our country back genius uh to bring our country back genius uh to bring our country back online. This will be an excellent online. This will be an excellent online. This will be an excellent fantastic partnership that we're looking fantastic partnership that we're looking fantastic partnership that we're looking forward to. forward to. forward to. >> So you've spoken about wanting to be on >> So you've spoken about wanting to be on >> So you've spoken about wanting to be on the ground there. What conditions and the ground there. What conditions and the ground there. What conditions and what timeline do you have for yourself? what timeline do you have for yourself? what timeline do you have for yourself? And this seems like a a pretty And this seems like a a pretty And this seems like a a pretty high-risisk thing to do. It' be pretty high-risisk thing to do. It' be pretty high-risisk thing to do. It' be pretty brave of you to uh go to the country brave of you to uh go to the country brave of you to uh go to the country now. What conditions have to be met for now. What conditions have to be met for now. What conditions have to be met for you to you to you to go to Iran to go home for the first time go to Iran to go home for the first time go to Iran to go home for the first time in 47 years? And how close do you think in 47 years? And how close do you think in 47 years? And how close do you think we are to the people taking the streets we are to the people taking the streets we are to the people taking the streets now and for starting this transition? now and for starting this transition? now and for starting this transition? >> Well, to be honest with you, it's very >> Well, to be honest with you, it's very >> Well, to be honest with you, it's very difficult to put an exact timeline. uh difficult to put an exact timeline. uh difficult to put an exact timeline. uh factors that will expedite it is the factors that will expedite it is the factors that will expedite it is the level of separation from the regime, the level of separation from the regime, the level of separation from the regime, the level of defections, uh the level of defections, uh the level of defections, uh the strengthening of domestic organizations strengthening of domestic organizations strengthening of domestic organizations and structure, how can we partner with and structure, how can we partner with and structure, how can we partner with elements from within that are not elements from within that are not elements from within that are not joining this campaign. All of these are joining this campaign. All of these are joining this campaign. All of these are factors that will contribute to the factors that will contribute to the factors that will contribute to the rapidity of the of the transition. As rapidity of the of the transition. As rapidity of the of the transition. As far as myself being there, obviously far as myself being there, obviously far as myself being there, obviously there are security concerns to make sure there are security concerns to make sure there are security concerns to make sure that it's safe enough for me to go that it's safe enough for me to go that it's safe enough for me to go there. I'm no use to anyone if I'm dead. there. I'm no use to anyone if I'm dead. there. I'm no use to anyone if I'm dead. So obviously we have to keep that in So obviously we have to keep that in So obviously we have to keep that in mind but I would like to be able to be mind but I would like to be able to be mind but I would like to be able to be there as soon as possible. Uh to be able there as soon as possible. Uh to be able there as soon as possible. Uh to be able to help as much as I can in this to help as much as I can in this to help as much as I can in this process. Obviously being in a country is process. Obviously being in a country is process. Obviously being in a country is an advantage. It's hard to do things an advantage. It's hard to do things an advantage. It's hard to do things from far away. I had no choice to be from far away. I had no choice to be from far away. I had no choice to be living in exile because of the living in exile because of the living in exile because of the circumstances. But I think that the circumstances. But I think that the circumstances. But I think that the opportunity is presenting itself and um opportunity is presenting itself and um opportunity is presenting itself and um the the first opportunity that is the the first opportunity that is the the first opportunity that is created for me to safely return to Iran created for me to safely return to Iran created for me to safely return to Iran will obviously be there. Just this will obviously be there. Just this will obviously be there. Just this morning, Trump said there will be no morning, Trump said there will be no morning, Trump said there will be no deal in Iran until unconditional deal in Iran until unconditional deal in Iran until unconditional surrender uh is given by whatever is surrender uh is given by whatever is surrender uh is given by whatever is left of the government there. What do left of the government there. What do left of the government there. What do you think of that condition? Is that the you think of that condition? Is that the you think of that condition? Is that the right move? Do you agree with Trump's right move? Do you agree with Trump's right move? Do you agree with Trump's ultimatum? ultimatum? ultimatum? >> Well, let me look at it from the >> Well, let me look at it from the >> Well, let me look at it from the domestic prison. In order for a domestic prison. In order for a domestic prison. In order for a successful transition to occur, it has successful transition to occur, it has successful transition to occur, it has ultimately to be something that is ultimately to be something that is ultimately to be something that is legitimate in the eyes of the Iranian legitimate in the eyes of the Iranian legitimate in the eyes of the Iranian people. We haven't lost so many tens of people. We haven't lost so many tens of people. We haven't lost so many tens of thousands of lives just to settle for a thousands of lives just to settle for a thousands of lives just to settle for a continuity of the remnants of this continuity of the remnants of this continuity of the remnants of this regime. That will not fly. People will regime. That will not fly. People will regime. That will not fly. People will want to have a clean break. The want to have a clean break. The want to have a clean break. The alternative will be for all those who alternative will be for all those who alternative will be for all those who align with the secular democratic align with the secular democratic align with the secular democratic alternative. And there are some four alternative. And there are some four alternative. And there are some four core principles that who whoever adheres core principles that who whoever adheres core principles that who whoever adheres to to that including people who may to to that including people who may to to that including people who may today peel away from the regime um would today peel away from the regime um would today peel away from the regime um would be able to agree to work together on be able to agree to work together on be able to agree to work together on that platform. The first and foremost that platform. The first and foremost that platform. The first and foremost issue is of course Iran's uh territorial issue is of course Iran's uh territorial issue is of course Iran's uh territorial integrity. That's an issue that is very integrity. That's an issue that is very integrity. That's an issue that is very close to the hearts of millions of close to the hearts of millions of close to the hearts of millions of Iranians representing every aspect of Iranians representing every aspect of Iranians representing every aspect of our diversified uh country in terms of our diversified uh country in terms of our diversified uh country in terms of ethnicities, religions and what have ethnicities, religions and what have ethnicities, religions and what have you. But we find ourselves in this you. But we find ourselves in this you. But we find ourselves in this united uh uh cause under one flag and united uh uh cause under one flag and united uh uh cause under one flag and under one nation. The second element under one nation. The second element under one nation. The second element that is a prerequisite to democracy is a that is a prerequisite to democracy is a that is a prerequisite to democracy is a clear separation of religion from state. clear separation of religion from state. clear separation of religion from state. That's a critical element for a That's a critical element for a That's a critical element for a democracy to occur. Equality of all democracy to occur. Equality of all democracy to occur. Equality of all citizens under the law and the rule of citizens under the law and the rule of citizens under the law and the rule of law obviously is a critical aspect that law obviously is a critical aspect that law obviously is a critical aspect that guarantees all of the rights we're guarantees all of the rights we're guarantees all of the rights we're talking about. and the democratic talking about. and the democratic talking about. and the democratic process itself, meaning uh the fact that process itself, meaning uh the fact that process itself, meaning uh the fact that people can elect their representatives people can elect their representatives people can elect their representatives to go to this constitutional assembly to to go to this constitutional assembly to to go to this constitutional assembly to debate the issues of what the next debate the issues of what the next debate the issues of what the next system could look like and what it laws system could look like and what it laws system could look like and what it laws should be ratified by the people which should be ratified by the people which should be ratified by the people which would bring us to the election of the would bring us to the election of the would bring us to the election of the first parliament of this new democracy first parliament of this new democracy first parliament of this new democracy and of course the election of the first and of course the election of the first and of course the election of the first government of such democracy at which government of such democracy at which government of such democracy at which point the transitional government hands point the transitional government hands point the transitional government hands over power to the elected uh over power to the elected uh over power to the elected uh representative of the people in the representative of the people in the representative of the people in the future government. That's pretty much future government. That's pretty much future government. That's pretty much the the the the direction that we hope the the the the direction that we hope the the the the direction that we hope to manage this transition and I'm to manage this transition and I'm to manage this transition and I'm playing a role in bringing about this playing a role in bringing about this playing a role in bringing about this transition with a very well-crafted plan transition with a very well-crafted plan transition with a very well-crafted plan that is in detail explaining that is in detail explaining that is in detail explaining particularly focusing on the first 100 particularly focusing on the first 100 particularly focusing on the first 100 days. I created an organization called days. I created an organization called days. I created an organization called IP which which is Iran prosperity IP which which is Iran prosperity IP which which is Iran prosperity project but it first focus is the first project but it first focus is the first project but it first focus is the first 100 days. How we immediately stabilize 100 days. How we immediately stabilize 100 days. How we immediately stabilize the situation in Iran. How can we the situation in Iran. How can we the situation in Iran. How can we maximize the remaining elements that maximize the remaining elements that maximize the remaining elements that will join with us to be able to survive will join with us to be able to survive will join with us to be able to survive regime change and have a place in the regime change and have a place in the regime change and have a place in the future? These are the first components future? These are the first components future? These are the first components and then we move forward with the plan. and then we move forward with the plan. and then we move forward with the plan. Two quick questions. Under no Two quick questions. Under no Two quick questions. Under no circumstances, would that be a monarchy? circumstances, would that be a monarchy? circumstances, would that be a monarchy? Uh I think uh is a question everybody Uh I think uh is a question everybody Uh I think uh is a question everybody has for you because you're the prince. has for you because you're the prince. has for you because you're the prince. This is a democracy. We don't have This is a democracy. We don't have This is a democracy. We don't have princes in democracies. And then number princes in democracies. And then number princes in democracies. And then number two, what do you ideally see as your two, what do you ideally see as your two, what do you ideally see as your role in the transition? And then would role in the transition? And then would role in the transition? And then would you like to have the opportunity to run you like to have the opportunity to run you like to have the opportunity to run for president and to lead the country for president and to lead the country for president and to lead the country out of this horrific nightmare of 47 out of this horrific nightmare of 47 out of this horrific nightmare of 47 years? years? years? >> My focus is on the process, not the >> My focus is on the process, not the >> My focus is on the process, not the outcome. And in as a neutral arbiter, outcome. And in as a neutral arbiter, outcome. And in as a neutral arbiter, I'm not taking sides with one form I'm not taking sides with one form I'm not taking sides with one form versus the other. That's for the people versus the other. That's for the people versus the other. That's for the people of Iran to choose. And I think the world of Iran to choose. And I think the world of Iran to choose. And I think the world has seen successful models in both a has seen successful models in both a has seen successful models in both a republican system and a monarchic republican system and a monarchic republican system and a monarchic system. examples uh a republic that you system. examples uh a republic that you system. examples uh a republic that you have like in India or like in Israel or have like in India or like in Israel or have like in India or like in Israel or in France or the United States are not in France or the United States are not in France or the United States are not exactly the same but that's under the exactly the same but that's under the exactly the same but that's under the republican structure. In terms of republican structure. In terms of republican structure. In terms of parliamentary monarchies we have the parliamentary monarchies we have the parliamentary monarchies we have the example of Japan, Sweden, Spain, other example of Japan, Sweden, Spain, other example of Japan, Sweden, Spain, other countries. So I don't think that countries. So I don't think that countries. So I don't think that necessarily you can equate democracy necessarily you can equate democracy necessarily you can equate democracy with one outcome in particular. It could with one outcome in particular. It could with one outcome in particular. It could be both models that people can emulate. be both models that people can emulate. be both models that people can emulate. So at the end of the day, you know, So at the end of the day, you know, So at the end of the day, you know, again, uh it's not for me to choose the again, uh it's not for me to choose the again, uh it's not for me to choose the outcome. I'm here to be a bridge towards outcome. I'm here to be a bridge towards outcome. I'm here to be a bridge towards that outcome. That's the function of a that outcome. That's the function of a that outcome. That's the function of a transitional leader, not to run for transitional leader, not to run for transitional leader, not to run for office or not to have an aim for office or not to have an aim for office or not to have an aim for personal uh position or power or personal uh position or power or personal uh position or power or authority, but to be the element that authority, but to be the element that authority, but to be the element that unites the country towards a common unites the country towards a common unites the country towards a common purpose and allow the nation to decide purpose and allow the nation to decide purpose and allow the nation to decide what is their preferred system. That's what is their preferred system. That's what is their preferred system. That's what elections and free elections should what elections and free elections should what elections and free elections should be all about. and the ballot box is the be all about. and the ballot box is the be all about. and the ballot box is the only means to measure uh people's uh only means to measure uh people's uh only means to measure uh people's uh opinion and the majority will decide on opinion and the majority will decide on opinion and the majority will decide on that and that's the process that I'm in that and that's the process that I'm in that and that's the process that I'm in business to bring about. What do you business to bring about. What do you business to bring about. What do you believe the people of Iran want and in believe the people of Iran want and in believe the people of Iran want and in that monarchy subset there are the Gulf that monarchy subset there are the Gulf that monarchy subset there are the Gulf monarchies uh the kingdom UAE Qatar they monarchies uh the kingdom UAE Qatar they monarchies uh the kingdom UAE Qatar they are obviously distinctly different than are obviously distinctly different than are obviously distinctly different than a parliamentary a parliamentary a parliamentary you know system. So I assume you you know system. So I assume you you know system. So I assume you wouldn't want to see that. What do you wouldn't want to see that. What do you wouldn't want to see that. What do you think the people of Iran will vote for? think the people of Iran will vote for? think the people of Iran will vote for? >> Well, just what you said. I mean, we a >> Well, just what you said. I mean, we a >> Well, just what you said. I mean, we a democratic system clearly uh outlines democratic system clearly uh outlines democratic system clearly uh outlines how it should be and and how it should how it should be and and how it should how it should be and and how it should not. Uh I mean, if you want to look at not. Uh I mean, if you want to look at not. Uh I mean, if you want to look at the closest monarchy to the United the closest monarchy to the United the closest monarchy to the United States, technically speaking, is Canada. States, technically speaking, is Canada. States, technically speaking, is Canada. And you know, if you want to look it And you know, if you want to look it And you know, if you want to look it that way, and I think Canadians are that way, and I think Canadians are that way, and I think Canadians are quite happy with a democracy that they quite happy with a democracy that they quite happy with a democracy that they enjoy. And again, we have very good enjoy. And again, we have very good enjoy. And again, we have very good models of republic. Case in point, the models of republic. Case in point, the models of republic. Case in point, the United States. At the end of the day, as United States. At the end of the day, as United States. At the end of the day, as I said, it's for the Iranian people to I said, it's for the Iranian people to I said, it's for the Iranian people to determine what would be in their best determine what would be in their best determine what would be in their best interest. Having looked this time, interest. Having looked this time, interest. Having looked this time, unlike what happened, by the way, 50 unlike what happened, by the way, 50 unlike what happened, by the way, 50 years ago, nobody had a clear idea what years ago, nobody had a clear idea what years ago, nobody had a clear idea what Kmeni was suggesting in terms of this as Kmeni was suggesting in terms of this as Kmeni was suggesting in terms of this as they call it or the tutilage of the they call it or the tutilage of the they call it or the tutilage of the supreme leader. By the time he took over supreme leader. By the time he took over supreme leader. By the time he took over and power was established, it was too and power was established, it was too and power was established, it was too late. And since then, we've been late. And since then, we've been late. And since then, we've been hostages to this regime. This time, in hostages to this regime. This time, in hostages to this regime. This time, in full transparency, the Iranian people full transparency, the Iranian people full transparency, the Iranian people ought to have a clear idea of different ought to have a clear idea of different ought to have a clear idea of different models presented to them. And on that models presented to them. And on that models presented to them. And on that basis, having understood every aspect of basis, having understood every aspect of basis, having understood every aspect of what it could be, then they make their what it could be, then they make their what it could be, then they make their choice. This is a process that should be choice. This is a process that should be choice. This is a process that should be totally transparent with enough time for totally transparent with enough time for totally transparent with enough time for debating different ideas. And again, as debating different ideas. And again, as debating different ideas. And again, as I said, let the democratic process I said, let the democratic process I said, let the democratic process unfold and let the people vote in unfold and let the people vote in unfold and let the people vote in majority. What is their final uh choice? majority. What is their final uh choice? majority. What is their final uh choice? I'm not here to determine an outcome. I'm not here to determine an outcome. I'm not here to determine an outcome. Again, I stress my role here is to Again, I stress my role here is to Again, I stress my role here is to manage this transition and create an manage this transition and create an manage this transition and create an opportunity that people have been opportunity that people have been opportunity that people have been deprived of for half a century to deprived of for half a century to deprived of for half a century to finally have a say as to what they would finally have a say as to what they would finally have a say as to what they would like to have for themselves in terms of like to have for themselves in terms of like to have for themselves in terms of sovereignty and determining their own sovereignty and determining their own sovereignty and determining their own future democratically. Final question, future democratically. Final question, future democratically. Final question, and I'll get into a bunch of details and I'll get into a bunch of details and I'll get into a bunch of details with you, Shervin, uh, as to the plan, with you, Shervin, uh, as to the plan, with you, Shervin, uh, as to the plan, which I know you're helping construct, which I know you're helping construct, which I know you're helping construct, and I'm assuming you'll help execute on. and I'm assuming you'll help execute on. and I'm assuming you'll help execute on. Trump says he's going to pick the next Trump says he's going to pick the next Trump says he's going to pick the next leader. Trump says a lot of things. He leader. Trump says a lot of things. He leader. Trump says a lot of things. He says them sometimes in a provocative uh, says them sometimes in a provocative uh, says them sometimes in a provocative uh, way, but he said he's not sure how you way, but he said he's not sure how you way, but he said he's not sure how you would play within your own country. would play within your own country. would play within your own country. There's obviously people holding up your There's obviously people holding up your There's obviously people holding up your picture. There are people who are maybe picture. There are people who are maybe picture. There are people who are maybe vying uh to take control of this from vying uh to take control of this from vying uh to take control of this from the previous administration. the previous administration. the previous administration. Are you in touch with President Trump Are you in touch with President Trump Are you in touch with President Trump and what's your relationship with him and what's your relationship with him and what's your relationship with him today? What's your best today? What's your best today? What's your best plea to him or your argument to him to plea to him or your argument to him to plea to him or your argument to him to work with you? work with you? work with you? >> Look, uh there's nothing hidden in the >> Look, uh there's nothing hidden in the >> Look, uh there's nothing hidden in the agenda. Everything is transparent and agenda. Everything is transparent and agenda. Everything is transparent and I've been communicating with the I've been communicating with the I've been communicating with the administration by uh Steve Witkov who administration by uh Steve Witkov who administration by uh Steve Witkov who announced it publicly. That's was our announced it publicly. That's was our announced it publicly. That's was our channel to President Trump and of course channel to President Trump and of course channel to President Trump and of course on the other side in the legislation on the other side in the legislation on the other side in the legislation with members of Congress, senators and with members of Congress, senators and with members of Congress, senators and Congress people to understand a little Congress people to understand a little Congress people to understand a little bit from the American prism what it is bit from the American prism what it is bit from the American prism what it is that we are proposing here. I don't that we are proposing here. I don't that we are proposing here. I don't think that President Trump or any other think that President Trump or any other think that President Trump or any other leader in this world would presume that leader in this world would presume that leader in this world would presume that it is up to them to determine who should it is up to them to determine who should it is up to them to determine who should be the next leader in Iran. I'm sure as be the next leader in Iran. I'm sure as be the next leader in Iran. I'm sure as democracies they respect the right for democracies they respect the right for democracies they respect the right for people to make that choice and as people to make that choice and as people to make that choice and as western democracies it should be going western democracies it should be going western democracies it should be going without saying that they would believe without saying that they would believe without saying that they would believe that the the right to choose the future that the the right to choose the future that the the right to choose the future leaders is only up to the Iranian leaders is only up to the Iranian leaders is only up to the Iranian people. If the intention is to assist people. If the intention is to assist people. If the intention is to assist that process if the intent is to support that process if the intent is to support that process if the intent is to support the Iranian people in their democratic the Iranian people in their democratic the Iranian people in their democratic aspiration you provide them with the aspiration you provide them with the aspiration you provide them with the help but the choice should be theirs. help but the choice should be theirs. help but the choice should be theirs. That has been my position and I don't That has been my position and I don't That has been my position and I don't think there's a disagreement on that think there's a disagreement on that think there's a disagreement on that whether it is with President Trump or whether it is with President Trump or whether it is with President Trump or other world leaders that I've also other world leaders that I've also other world leaders that I've also talked to about this matter. talked to about this matter. talked to about this matter. >> As I let you go, what should the >> As I let you go, what should the >> As I let you go, what should the American people know about the spirit, American people know about the spirit, American people know about the spirit, the culture, and the people of Iran, the culture, and the people of Iran, the culture, and the people of Iran, including the people who fled in 1979 including the people who fled in 1979 including the people who fled in 1979 like you and your family? like you and your family? like you and your family? >> Well, I I know many Americans who have >> Well, I I know many Americans who have >> Well, I I know many Americans who have many Iranian friends. As a matter of many Iranian friends. As a matter of many Iranian friends. As a matter of fact, if you just look at the Iranian fact, if you just look at the Iranian fact, if you just look at the Iranian diaspora in the United States alone, you diaspora in the United States alone, you diaspora in the United States alone, you will see how much uh interaction there will see how much uh interaction there will see how much uh interaction there is between Iranians who are now is between Iranians who are now is between Iranians who are now Iranianameans, if you will, many of Iranianameans, if you will, many of Iranianameans, if you will, many of them, and the kind of relationship they them, and the kind of relationship they them, and the kind of relationship they have built with their American have built with their American have built with their American counterpart. Many people have uh counterpart. Many people have uh counterpart. Many people have uh connections via marriages. Many people connections via marriages. Many people connections via marriages. Many people have connections through business have connections through business have connections through business affiliations. Many people have worked affiliations. Many people have worked affiliations. Many people have worked with Iranians. Many of the high-tech with Iranians. Many of the high-tech with Iranians. Many of the high-tech companies including Silicon Valley companies including Silicon Valley companies including Silicon Valley employ so many Iranians or they are employ so many Iranians or they are employ so many Iranians or they are themselves entrepreneurs. This is the themselves entrepreneurs. This is the themselves entrepreneurs. This is the kind of potential and I'm sure Shervin kind of potential and I'm sure Shervin kind of potential and I'm sure Shervin will talk to you more about that. But will talk to you more about that. But will talk to you more about that. But this is the kind of connections there this is the kind of connections there this is the kind of connections there is. And for Americans that have traveled is. And for Americans that have traveled is. And for Americans that have traveled to Iran or have known Iranians all these to Iran or have known Iranians all these to Iran or have known Iranians all these years, they know what what what country years, they know what what what country years, they know what what what country it represents, what amount of culture, it represents, what amount of culture, it represents, what amount of culture, arts, um I mean civilization in a true arts, um I mean civilization in a true arts, um I mean civilization in a true sense Iranians represent and they've sense Iranians represent and they've sense Iranians represent and they've been completely suffocated under this been completely suffocated under this been completely suffocated under this regime. But once Iran is uh is uh you regime. But once Iran is uh is uh you regime. But once Iran is uh is uh you know free from its shackles uh I'm sure know free from its shackles uh I'm sure know free from its shackles uh I'm sure a lot of Americans know um what a lot of Americans know um what a lot of Americans know um what difference there is between an Iran that difference there is between an Iran that difference there is between an Iran that wants to be friends with America that is wants to be friends with America that is wants to be friends with America that is not the regime that has from its not the regime that has from its not the regime that has from its inception called death to America or inception called death to America or inception called death to America or death to Israel for instance death to Israel for instance death to Israel for instance >> but there are Iranians who actually love >> but there are Iranians who actually love >> but there are Iranians who actually love to America. Let me just give you a last to America. Let me just give you a last to America. Let me just give you a last parting thought because I think every parting thought because I think every parting thought because I think every now and then I need to remind your now and then I need to remind your now and then I need to remind your audience and other audiences. We talked audience and other audiences. We talked audience and other audiences. We talked about other countries in the region. about other countries in the region. about other countries in the region. Remember 911? Remember 911? Remember 911? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And how many people on the streets of >> And how many people on the streets of >> And how many people on the streets of many of the so-called allies of the many of the so-called allies of the many of the so-called allies of the United States were celebrating that United States were celebrating that United States were celebrating that attack on that sinister day. The only attack on that sinister day. The only attack on that sinister day. The only country in the entire world in the country in the entire world in the country in the entire world in the entire region that actually stood in entire region that actually stood in entire region that actually stood in candlelight vigils in sympathy to the candlelight vigils in sympathy to the candlelight vigils in sympathy to the victims of the 911 terrorist attacks victims of the 911 terrorist attacks victims of the 911 terrorist attacks were no other than the Iranian people were no other than the Iranian people were no other than the Iranian people themselves holding candle light vigils themselves holding candle light vigils themselves holding candle light vigils in Iran. And they've been messaging in Iran. And they've been messaging in Iran. And they've been messaging America for years now. We are not your America for years now. We are not your America for years now. We are not your enemies. In fact, they've been chanting enemies. In fact, they've been chanting enemies. In fact, they've been chanting slogans in Iran saying they lie to us. slogans in Iran saying they lie to us. slogans in Iran saying they lie to us. It's America. Our enemy is right here. It's America. Our enemy is right here. It's America. Our enemy is right here. This is the Iran I'm talking about. This This is the Iran I'm talking about. This This is the Iran I'm talking about. This is the people I'm talking about and I is the people I'm talking about and I is the people I'm talking about and I know many Americans both in the civilian know many Americans both in the civilian know many Americans both in the civilian sector including military forces in sector including military forces in sector including military forces in America know that and I think that's America know that and I think that's America know that and I think that's something that I'm sure I'm not the only something that I'm sure I'm not the only something that I'm sure I'm not the only one uh you know talking about this. You one uh you know talking about this. You one uh you know talking about this. You will hear from other Iranians who will will hear from other Iranians who will will hear from other Iranians who will pretty much confirm what I just said. pretty much confirm what I just said. pretty much confirm what I just said. That's why this partnership is so vital That's why this partnership is so vital That's why this partnership is so vital for us because together we will be able for us because together we will be able for us because together we will be able to rebuild um uh you know a different to rebuild um uh you know a different to rebuild um uh you know a different world. Iran will bring an element of world. Iran will bring an element of world. Iran will bring an element of stability to the region and beyond and stability to the region and beyond and stability to the region and beyond and that can only play to the interest of that can only play to the interest of that can only play to the interest of America itself. We need to have this America itself. We need to have this America itself. We need to have this vital partnership and I think we'll be vital partnership and I think we'll be vital partnership and I think we'll be able to succeed because I see everybody able to succeed because I see everybody able to succeed because I see everybody now is very much committed to work now is very much committed to work now is very much committed to work together towards uh bringing this agenda together towards uh bringing this agenda together towards uh bringing this agenda forward. Well, we're we're all praying forward. Well, we're we're all praying forward. Well, we're we're all praying for the people of Iran to have a for the people of Iran to have a for the people of Iran to have a democracy and what an amazing moment it democracy and what an amazing moment it democracy and what an amazing moment it will be uh when you get to return in will be uh when you get to return in will be uh when you get to return in whatever capacity and help this whatever capacity and help this whatever capacity and help this transition and 93 million people who transition and 93 million people who transition and 93 million people who have been suffering will be living free have been suffering will be living free have been suffering will be living free in a democracy and the impact that could in a democracy and the impact that could in a democracy and the impact that could have on the world and obviously that have on the world and obviously that have on the world and obviously that region would be by far the largest region would be by far the largest region would be by far the largest democracy in in uh the Middle East. uh democracy in in uh the Middle East. uh democracy in in uh the Middle East. uh and and this could have ramifications in and and this could have ramifications in and and this could have ramifications in terms of humanity that would be terms of humanity that would be terms of humanity that would be absolutely stunning and beautiful and absolutely stunning and beautiful and absolutely stunning and beautiful and the prosperity would be amazing. The the prosperity would be amazing. The the prosperity would be amazing. The Iranian people I met in my life uh Iranian people I met in my life uh Iranian people I met in my life uh Prince when I was living in Los Angeles, Prince when I was living in Los Angeles, Prince when I was living in Los Angeles, all these great Persians I would meet uh all these great Persians I would meet uh all these great Persians I would meet uh were some of the most joyful were some of the most joyful were some of the most joyful and industrious beautiful individuals and industrious beautiful individuals and industrious beautiful individuals I've met. They remind me of my Greek and I've met. They remind me of my Greek and I've met. They remind me of my Greek and Irish heritage, including you, Shervin. Irish heritage, including you, Shervin. Irish heritage, including you, Shervin. So, Prince Resin, thank you so much for So, Prince Resin, thank you so much for So, Prince Resin, thank you so much for your time. I know you're extremely busy. your time. I know you're extremely busy. your time. I know you're extremely busy. It's very important for the all-in It's very important for the all-in It's very important for the all-in audience to hear from you uh and to audience to hear from you uh and to audience to hear from you uh and to understand what's going on in your understand what's going on in your understand what's going on in your vision and we would love to have you vision and we would love to have you vision and we would love to have you back when you're on the ground uh with back when you're on the ground uh with back when you're on the ground uh with your people and that your people are your people and that your people are your people and that your people are free. free. free. >> Thank you again. Looking forward to it. >> Thank you again. Looking forward to it. >> Thank you again. Looking forward to it. >> All right, Shervin. Thank you so much >> All right, Shervin. Thank you so much >> All right, Shervin. Thank you so much for setting this up. for setting this up. for setting this up. >> I ask for very few favors for my >> I ask for very few favors for my >> I ask for very few favors for my friends, but as a good friend, you made friends, but as a good friend, you made friends, but as a good friend, you made this happen for the all-in community. this happen for the all-in community. this happen for the all-in community. So, we I thank you for that. And uh as I So, we I thank you for that. And uh as I So, we I thank you for that. And uh as I as I said to to the prince, the people as I said to to the prince, the people as I said to to the prince, the people and and the Persians here in the United and and the Persians here in the United and and the Persians here in the United States, maybe you could tell us a little States, maybe you could tell us a little States, maybe you could tell us a little bit about your story and and what this bit about your story and and what this bit about your story and and what this means to you and then we can get into means to you and then we can get into means to you and then we can get into your involvement here and what you hope your involvement here and what you hope your involvement here and what you hope to see in those first 100 days. to see in those first 100 days. to see in those first 100 days. >> Of course. Uh first of all, Jason, thank >> Of course. Uh first of all, Jason, thank >> Of course. Uh first of all, Jason, thank you for opening up this tremendous you for opening up this tremendous you for opening up this tremendous platform to the Iranian people and to platform to the Iranian people and to platform to the Iranian people and to the prince. Uh as you can see, uh the the prince. Uh as you can see, uh the the prince. Uh as you can see, uh the crown prince Razip is a is a great man. crown prince Razip is a is a great man. crown prince Razip is a is a great man. uh the most courageous man that I've uh the most courageous man that I've uh the most courageous man that I've ever met. Uh and he's the highest ever met. Uh and he's the highest ever met. Uh and he's the highest integrity human I've I've met as well. integrity human I've I've met as well. integrity human I've I've met as well. Uh we're very blessed as a people to Uh we're very blessed as a people to Uh we're very blessed as a people to have a leader like him. Uh who has lived have a leader like him. Uh who has lived have a leader like him. Uh who has lived a very clean life uh and has uh stepped a very clean life uh and has uh stepped a very clean life uh and has uh stepped up in a very courageous way. has put it up in a very courageous way. has put it up in a very courageous way. has put it all on the line for his people and his all on the line for his people and his all on the line for his people and his legacy uh to play this tremendous legacy uh to play this tremendous legacy uh to play this tremendous transitional role to evolve the Iranian transitional role to evolve the Iranian transitional role to evolve the Iranian uh nation to a democracy. Um and this uh nation to a democracy. Um and this uh nation to a democracy. Um and this long nightmare of 47 years that all of long nightmare of 47 years that all of long nightmare of 47 years that all of my Iranian brothers and sisters have my Iranian brothers and sisters have my Iranian brothers and sisters have suffered through um uh is almost over. suffered through um uh is almost over. suffered through um uh is almost over. And uh also a tremendous gratitude to And uh also a tremendous gratitude to And uh also a tremendous gratitude to President Trump uh for his courageous President Trump uh for his courageous President Trump uh for his courageous leadership on this matter. Uh I don't leadership on this matter. Uh I don't leadership on this matter. Uh I don't think any other president uh would have think any other president uh would have think any other president uh would have the courage and the principle and the the courage and the principle and the the courage and the principle and the values to take on this Islamic regime of values to take on this Islamic regime of values to take on this Islamic regime of terror. As you saw last month, uh they terror. As you saw last month, uh they terror. As you saw last month, uh they massacred uh over 43,000 Iranians who massacred uh over 43,000 Iranians who massacred uh over 43,000 Iranians who were just peacefully protesting. They were just peacefully protesting. They were just peacefully protesting. They gunned them down with anti-material gunned them down with anti-material gunned them down with anti-material bullets. I I put a post of a Coca-Cola bullets. I I put a post of a Coca-Cola bullets. I I put a post of a Coca-Cola can next to these bullets. It was bigger can next to these bullets. It was bigger can next to these bullets. It was bigger than the can. Uh that's what than the can. Uh that's what than the can. Uh that's what >> and this is super important to to >> and this is super important to to >> and this is super important to to meditate on for a second here. This meditate on for a second here. This meditate on for a second here. This regime regime regime >> is a murderous and evil regime to turn >> is a murderous and evil regime to turn >> is a murderous and evil regime to turn those guns and mow down 40,000 those guns and mow down 40,000 those guns and mow down 40,000 in over 40,000 individuals peacefully in over 40,000 individuals peacefully in over 40,000 individuals peacefully protesting is just an act of savagery protesting is just an act of savagery protesting is just an act of savagery and brutality that I think most people and brutality that I think most people and brutality that I think most people don't appreciate and uh or don't fully don't appreciate and uh or don't fully don't appreciate and uh or don't fully appreciate. Um and we there hasn't been appreciate. Um and we there hasn't been appreciate. Um and we there hasn't been enough coverage of that fact. enough coverage of that fact. enough coverage of that fact. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> And you are a bipartisan type person. >> And you are a bipartisan type person. >> And you are a bipartisan type person. and I've known you for many years. You and I've known you for many years. You and I've known you for many years. You were a super uh funer of uh Obama. He he were a super uh funer of uh Obama. He he were a super uh funer of uh Obama. He he wasn't able to get this done. Biden wasn't able to get this done. Biden wasn't able to get this done. Biden wasn't able to get this done. Bush wasn't able to get this done. Bush wasn't able to get this done. Bush wasn't able to get this done. This has wasn't able to get this done. This has wasn't able to get this done. This has been something that presidents have been something that presidents have been something that presidents have struggled with. And you got to give struggled with. And you got to give struggled with. And you got to give Trump credit here. There's a lot of Trump credit here. There's a lot of Trump credit here. There's a lot of debate over why this is happening. Is it debate over why this is happening. Is it debate over why this is happening. Is it Israel driving it? Is it the Israel driving it? Is it the Israel driving it? Is it the relationship with China? We talked about relationship with China? We talked about relationship with China? We talked about that in part one. At the end of the day, that in part one. At the end of the day, that in part one. At the end of the day, as a son of Iran, what matters is that as a son of Iran, what matters is that as a son of Iran, what matters is that the people are free. All these other the people are free. All these other the people are free. All these other conspiracy theories theories and conspiracy theories theories and conspiracy theories theories and motivations do not matter to you or the motivations do not matter to you or the motivations do not matter to you or the people. Yeah, people. Yeah, people. Yeah, >> absolutely not. I uh but one of my key >> absolutely not. I uh but one of my key >> absolutely not. I uh but one of my key principles is our our our principles is our our our principles is our our our sec our moral security precedes our sec our moral security precedes our sec our moral security precedes our physical security. So this has as much physical security. So this has as much physical security. So this has as much to do with American uh security as it to do with American uh security as it to do with American uh security as it does Iranians security and livelihood. does Iranians security and livelihood. does Iranians security and livelihood. As you saw, this regime is not only uh As you saw, this regime is not only uh As you saw, this regime is not only uh evil enough to mow down 43,000 innocent evil enough to mow down 43,000 innocent evil enough to mow down 43,000 innocent people in 48 hours. Their reaction to people in 48 hours. Their reaction to people in 48 hours. Their reaction to this liberation operation is to attack this liberation operation is to attack this liberation operation is to attack over 12 countries in the region. Imagine over 12 countries in the region. Imagine over 12 countries in the region. Imagine if they had a nuclear bomb, they would if they had a nuclear bomb, they would if they had a nuclear bomb, they would use it. use it. use it. >> They would use it. There's not even a >> They would use it. There's not even a >> They would use it. There's not even a doubt in my mind that they would have doubt in my mind that they would have doubt in my mind that they would have used it by now uh if they had it. Uh so used it by now uh if they had it. Uh so used it by now uh if they had it. Uh so this is uh incredibly important for this is uh incredibly important for this is uh incredibly important for America's national security. Um as uh America's national security. Um as uh America's national security. Um as uh the prince mentioned 9/11 uh happened. the prince mentioned 9/11 uh happened. the prince mentioned 9/11 uh happened. Uh that's the same kind of ideology Uh that's the same kind of ideology Uh that's the same kind of ideology except the problem we have in our modern except the problem we have in our modern except the problem we have in our modern time is that basically criminal and time is that basically criminal and time is that basically criminal and terrorist organizations have taken over terrorist organizations have taken over terrorist organizations have taken over sovereign nations with nuclear bombs or sovereign nations with nuclear bombs or sovereign nations with nuclear bombs or seeking nuclear bombs. Wherever you have seeking nuclear bombs. Wherever you have seeking nuclear bombs. Wherever you have Russia, uh China, uh you have you have Russia, uh China, uh you have you have Russia, uh China, uh you have you have North Korea and you have Iran. uh and North Korea and you have Iran. uh and North Korea and you have Iran. uh and then you had Venezuela. So the president then you had Venezuela. So the president then you had Venezuela. So the president has not only uh gotten rid of the Maduro has not only uh gotten rid of the Maduro has not only uh gotten rid of the Maduro in in Venezuela, he has now uh begun in in Venezuela, he has now uh begun in in Venezuela, he has now uh begun this process of dismantling this this this process of dismantling this this this process of dismantling this this Islamic regime who is absolutely uh not Islamic regime who is absolutely uh not Islamic regime who is absolutely uh not a legitimate government and not a legit a legitimate government and not a legit a legitimate government and not a legit legitimate u nation state. Uh and the legitimate u nation state. Uh and the legitimate u nation state. Uh and the only leader that uh is legitimate to only leader that uh is legitimate to only leader that uh is legitimate to lead us to a transition process to lead us to a transition process to lead us to a transition process to become a democracy is uh the crown become a democracy is uh the crown become a democracy is uh the crown prince resale. We are very lucky uh I prince resale. We are very lucky uh I prince resale. We are very lucky uh I think in our modern times to have three think in our modern times to have three think in our modern times to have three leaders who are living at the same time leaders who are living at the same time leaders who are living at the same time and leading at the same time as and leading at the same time as and leading at the same time as President Trump, President Netanyahu, um President Trump, President Netanyahu, um President Trump, President Netanyahu, um Prime Minister Netanyahu and and the Prime Minister Netanyahu and and the Prime Minister Netanyahu and and the Crown Prince Resali all at at in this Crown Prince Resali all at at in this Crown Prince Resali all at at in this one moment in time. I think we're living one moment in time. I think we're living one moment in time. I think we're living in biblical times when 107 happened. Um, in biblical times when 107 happened. Um, in biblical times when 107 happened. Um, I started the Israeli Iranian alliance I started the Israeli Iranian alliance I started the Israeli Iranian alliance with Michael Eisenberg, Michael Bhine, with Michael Eisenberg, Michael Bhine, with Michael Eisenberg, Michael Bhine, Jesse Matin, Sean Rad, uh, and we Jesse Matin, Sean Rad, uh, and we Jesse Matin, Sean Rad, uh, and we started to host these salons with the started to host these salons with the started to host these salons with the crown prince. One was in New York, crown prince. One was in New York, crown prince. One was in New York, Michael Eisenberg flew in, Dan Lo, lots Michael Eisenberg flew in, Dan Lo, lots Michael Eisenberg flew in, Dan Lo, lots of, uh, leaders came. Uh and that was of, uh, leaders came. Uh and that was of, uh, leaders came. Uh and that was the beginning of the process uh that was the beginning of the process uh that was the beginning of the process uh that was seated with a breakfast with Michael seated with a breakfast with Michael seated with a breakfast with Michael Eisenberg as a VC and the number one VC Eisenberg as a VC and the number one VC Eisenberg as a VC and the number one VC in Israel uh 15 years ago where we said in Israel uh 15 years ago where we said in Israel uh 15 years ago where we said we have to do more between Israeli and we have to do more between Israeli and we have to do more between Israeli and Jewish community and the Persian Iranian Jewish community and the Persian Iranian Jewish community and the Persian Iranian community and someday we're going to community and someday we're going to community and someday we're going to have uh tea in Thran. And we wrote an have uh tea in Thran. And we wrote an have uh tea in Thran. And we wrote an op-ed last year about this. And we began op-ed last year about this. And we began op-ed last year about this. And we began to build these bridges. Uh and this to build these bridges. Uh and this to build these bridges. Uh and this connection connection connection between the Jewish people and the between the Jewish people and the between the Jewish people and the Iranian people goes back 2500 years. Iranian people goes back 2500 years. Iranian people goes back 2500 years. Cyrus the Great, who's in the Bible, uh Cyrus the Great, who's in the Bible, uh Cyrus the Great, who's in the Bible, uh freed the Jews from uh slavery in freed the Jews from uh slavery in freed the Jews from uh slavery in Babylon, returned them to their homeland Babylon, returned them to their homeland Babylon, returned them to their homeland in Jerusalem, and rebuilt their temple. in Jerusalem, and rebuilt their temple. in Jerusalem, and rebuilt their temple. uh and that he is celebrated for that uh and that he is celebrated for that uh and that he is celebrated for that courageous act uh in the Bible and in in courageous act uh in the Bible and in in courageous act uh in the Bible and in in uh Jewish religious uh you know holidays uh Jewish religious uh you know holidays uh Jewish religious uh you know holidays and and it is a tremendous connection and and it is a tremendous connection and and it is a tremendous connection that goes back now 2500 years later in that goes back now 2500 years later in that goes back now 2500 years later in kind of biblical symmetry you have the kind of biblical symmetry you have the kind of biblical symmetry you have the Jewish people helping free Iranian Jewish people helping free Iranian Jewish people helping free Iranian people from their slavery and at the people from their slavery and at the people from their slavery and at the same time there is a connection between same time there is a connection between same time there is a connection between America's beginning that many people America's beginning that many people America's beginning that many people don't know is that Thomas Jefferson was don't know is that Thomas Jefferson was don't know is that Thomas Jefferson was uh a student of Cyrus the Great who uh a student of Cyrus the Great who uh a student of Cyrus the Great who declared the first declaration of human declared the first declaration of human declared the first declaration of human rights and a lot of the principles that rights and a lot of the principles that rights and a lot of the principles that went into the Declaration of went into the Declaration of went into the Declaration of Independence of America and the founding Independence of America and the founding Independence of America and the founding of America and the Bill of Rights and of America and the Bill of Rights and of America and the Bill of Rights and the Constitution have had its roots in the Constitution have had its roots in the Constitution have had its roots in Cyrus the Great and Persian history. And Cyrus the Great and Persian history. And Cyrus the Great and Persian history. And so this connection between America's so this connection between America's so this connection between America's founding and the principles that the founding and the principles that the founding and the principles that the Iranians uh espoused for 2500 years uh Iranians uh espoused for 2500 years uh Iranians uh espoused for 2500 years uh is this beautiful connection between the is this beautiful connection between the is this beautiful connection between the Jewish people, the American people and Jewish people, the American people and Jewish people, the American people and the Iranian people. the Iranian people. the Iranian people. >> And this could have such a tremendous >> And this could have such a tremendous >> And this could have such a tremendous impact on the region. You have impact on the region. You have impact on the region. You have essentially a lone democracy in Israel. essentially a lone democracy in Israel. essentially a lone democracy in Israel. Uh and now to have 93 million Iranians Uh and now to have 93 million Iranians Uh and now to have 93 million Iranians in a democracy, if if that can be in a democracy, if if that can be in a democracy, if if that can be achieved, and listen, there's a long way achieved, and listen, there's a long way achieved, and listen, there's a long way to go. this could spiral out of control. to go. this could spiral out of control. to go. this could spiral out of control. This was a very high-risk This was a very high-risk This was a very high-risk move uh by Trump. President Trump should move uh by Trump. President Trump should move uh by Trump. President Trump should give him a lot of credit for that, but give him a lot of credit for that, but give him a lot of credit for that, but he has to own this. So, let's be humble he has to own this. So, let's be humble he has to own this. So, let's be humble and and we got to pray for the best and and we got to pray for the best and and we got to pray for the best here. Things can spiral out of control here. Things can spiral out of control here. Things can spiral out of control in these kind of situations. But let's in these kind of situations. But let's in these kind of situations. But let's hope that we do get to democracy there. hope that we do get to democracy there. hope that we do get to democracy there. I'm curious, Shervin, you've spent a lot I'm curious, Shervin, you've spent a lot I'm curious, Shervin, you've spent a lot of time in the Middle East. I have over of time in the Middle East. I have over of time in the Middle East. I have over the last 3 years gotten myself educated the last 3 years gotten myself educated the last 3 years gotten myself educated and caught up I hope and have started and caught up I hope and have started and caught up I hope and have started doing business there and and really doing business there and and really doing business there and and really meeting a larger swath of people. The meeting a larger swath of people. The meeting a larger swath of people. The Gulf monarchies have modernized Gulf monarchies have modernized Gulf monarchies have modernized incredibly starting with the UAE, Saudi incredibly starting with the UAE, Saudi incredibly starting with the UAE, Saudi uh now the kingdom and of course Qatar uh now the kingdom and of course Qatar uh now the kingdom and of course Qatar uh as well modernizing Oman, Kuwait. uh as well modernizing Oman, Kuwait. uh as well modernizing Oman, Kuwait. What would Iran going straight to a What would Iran going straight to a What would Iran going straight to a democracy if that is even possible? What democracy if that is even possible? What democracy if that is even possible? What would that do to the region in your would that do to the region in your would that do to the region in your mind? I think that uh everything it what mind? I think that uh everything it what mind? I think that uh everything it what what the Gulf countries have done uh is what the Gulf countries have done uh is what the Gulf countries have done uh is a tremendous case study of what the a tremendous case study of what the a tremendous case study of what the potential for the Middle East truly is. potential for the Middle East truly is. potential for the Middle East truly is. Uh being blessed uh by God to have oil Uh being blessed uh by God to have oil Uh being blessed uh by God to have oil gas the way that most GCC countries have gas the way that most GCC countries have gas the way that most GCC countries have and Iran uh so has uh gives them an and Iran uh so has uh gives them an and Iran uh so has uh gives them an advantage to be able to have the advantage to be able to have the advantage to be able to have the resources independently to develop resources independently to develop resources independently to develop themselves. And when you look at what themselves. And when you look at what themselves. And when you look at what happened in UAE over the last 25 years, happened in UAE over the last 25 years, happened in UAE over the last 25 years, I went to UAE in 2001 2002 and there was I went to UAE in 2001 2002 and there was I went to UAE in 2001 2002 and there was a smattering of buildings there. a smattering of buildings there. a smattering of buildings there. >> Yeah, I've seen the pictures of Dubai >> Yeah, I've seen the pictures of Dubai >> Yeah, I've seen the pictures of Dubai then and now. then and now. then and now. >> It's extraordinary. It's incredible. And >> It's extraordinary. It's incredible. And >> It's extraordinary. It's incredible. And it it reminds me of what America was it it reminds me of what America was it it reminds me of what America was like in the 1950s when they came from like in the 1950s when they came from like in the 1950s when they came from back from World War II. Eisenhower buil back from World War II. Eisenhower buil back from World War II. Eisenhower buil built the interstate highway system and built the interstate highway system and built the interstate highway system and America developed into this superpower. America developed into this superpower. America developed into this superpower. Uh and and in many ways the GCC Uh and and in many ways the GCC Uh and and in many ways the GCC countries espouse that American countries espouse that American countries espouse that American mentality of everything is possible. mentality of everything is possible. mentality of everything is possible. Anything is possible. And they've Anything is possible. And they've Anything is possible. And they've manifested their greatness. And you look manifested their greatness. And you look manifested their greatness. And you look at Iran, you have 93 million at Iran, you have 93 million at Iran, you have 93 million unbelievably brilliant people who have unbelievably brilliant people who have unbelievably brilliant people who have been held back. You look at the Iranian been held back. You look at the Iranian been held back. You look at the Iranian diaspora in America. just our fellow diaspora in America. just our fellow diaspora in America. just our fellow friends who many people know Dar friends who many people know Dar friends who many people know Dar Uber Uber Uber myself at Uber of course um Omid myself at Uber of course um Omid myself at Uber of course um Omid Cordistani at Google and Ali at at data Cordistani at Google and Ali at at data Cordistani at Google and Ali at at data bricks um you know pier at eBay when you bricks um you know pier at eBay when you bricks um you know pier at eBay when you add up the numbers it gets to trillions add up the numbers it gets to trillions add up the numbers it gets to trillions of dollars of value have been created by of dollars of value have been created by of dollars of value have been created by this small population of Iranians in this small population of Iranians in this small population of Iranians in America and especially in Silicon Valley America and especially in Silicon Valley America and especially in Silicon Valley and I've been blessed to be part of that and I've been blessed to be part of that and I've been blessed to be part of that circle and you know one thank God for circle and you know one thank God for circle and you know one thank God for America America that we had a a safe America America that we had a a safe America America that we had a a safe sanctuary to come and develop our sanctuary to come and develop our sanctuary to come and develop our brilliance. But there are as many brilliance. But there are as many brilliance. But there are as many there's uh as many brilliant Iranians there's uh as many brilliant Iranians there's uh as many brilliant Iranians way more brilliant Iranian. way more brilliant Iranian. way more brilliant Iranian. >> Yeah. On a numbers basis it's it's a >> Yeah. On a numbers basis it's it's a >> Yeah. On a numbers basis it's it's a magnitude more. magnitude more. magnitude more. >> And so this will be a free democratic >> And so this will be a free democratic >> And so this will be a free democratic Iran will be the greatest peace dividend Iran will be the greatest peace dividend Iran will be the greatest peace dividend and economic dividend to be gifted to and economic dividend to be gifted to and economic dividend to be gifted to the world and to the region. So I think the world and to the region. So I think the world and to the region. So I think what'll happen is um we will have an what'll happen is um we will have an what'll happen is um we will have an acceleration of the Middle East becoming acceleration of the Middle East becoming acceleration of the Middle East becoming this uh unbelievable this uh unbelievable this uh unbelievable place where innovation and investment in place where innovation and investment in place where innovation and investment in the future is happening. We're at the the future is happening. We're at the the future is happening. We're at the dawn of AGI and advanced super dawn of AGI and advanced super dawn of AGI and advanced super intelligence. We have quantum computing intelligence. We have quantum computing intelligence. We have quantum computing which you and I you know and Emil which you and I you know and Emil which you and I you know and Emil Michael and others have done with our Michael and others have done with our Michael and others have done with our you know our our spa um and D-Wave. you know our our spa um and D-Wave. you know our our spa um and D-Wave. These these technologies are are going These these technologies are are going These these technologies are are going to fast forward humanity and being able to fast forward humanity and being able to fast forward humanity and being able to tap into the resources of the Middle to tap into the resources of the Middle to tap into the resources of the Middle East and Iran in in human capital and in East and Iran in in human capital and in East and Iran in in human capital and in the oil and gas wealth to be able to the oil and gas wealth to be able to the oil and gas wealth to be able to unleash an accelerated future is unleash an accelerated future is unleash an accelerated future is something that uh we all look forward something that uh we all look forward something that uh we all look forward to. And one of the things the team uh to. And one of the things the team uh to. And one of the things the team uh the crown prince's vision uh this is a the crown prince's vision uh this is a the crown prince's vision uh this is a 175page report right here the Iran 175page report right here the Iran 175page report right here the Iran prosperity project and I'm blessed to be prosperity project and I'm blessed to be prosperity project and I'm blessed to be an adviser there with many other very an adviser there with many other very an adviser there with many other very talented uh Iranians um and this piece talented uh Iranians um and this piece talented uh Iranians um and this piece by piece month by month uh has a by piece month by month uh has a by piece month by month uh has a sequence of of plans to rebuild Iran as sequence of of plans to rebuild Iran as sequence of of plans to rebuild Iran as the crown prince was talking about so the crown prince was talking about so the crown prince was talking about so that when there is a free Iran there that when there is a free Iran there that when there is a free Iran there will be a a four-month process C to get will be a a four-month process C to get will be a a four-month process C to get to a a referendum. Um, and then a to a a referendum. Um, and then a to a a referendum. Um, and then a six-month process to u assemble uh six-month process to u assemble uh six-month process to u assemble uh Iranians to to write a constitution. Uh Iranians to to write a constitution. Uh Iranians to to write a constitution. Uh and then a 14-month process to actually and then a 14-month process to actually and then a 14-month process to actually finalize uh the the constitution and finalize uh the the constitution and finalize uh the the constitution and then have a vote on the constitution. So then have a vote on the constitution. So then have a vote on the constitution. So you'll have a a sequence of events that you'll have a a sequence of events that you'll have a a sequence of events that will then lead to uh a legal framework will then lead to uh a legal framework will then lead to uh a legal framework uh where uh the the the new Iran will be uh where uh the the the new Iran will be uh where uh the the the new Iran will be able to actually execute on this on this able to actually execute on this on this able to actually execute on this on this tremendous plan uh and rebuild uh all tremendous plan uh and rebuild uh all tremendous plan uh and rebuild uh all aspects and all sectors of the economy. aspects and all sectors of the economy. aspects and all sectors of the economy. Uh and that'll lead to um you know uh Uh and that'll lead to um you know uh Uh and that'll lead to um you know uh this new Iran that we're all have been this new Iran that we're all have been this new Iran that we're all have been dreaming and praying for. dreaming and praying for. dreaming and praying for. >> And and so this plan's been worked on >> And and so this plan's been worked on >> And and so this plan's been worked on for some time. He seems like he's got, for some time. He seems like he's got, for some time. He seems like he's got, you know, a third or so of the you know, a third or so of the you know, a third or so of the constituents there who are in favor of constituents there who are in favor of constituents there who are in favor of him. There are some people who are him. There are some people who are him. There are some people who are strongly opposed. strongly opposed. strongly opposed. Last time his father was not perfect. Last time his father was not perfect. Last time his father was not perfect. He's answered many of the hard questions He's answered many of the hard questions He's answered many of the hard questions about his father's uh tenure. What are about his father's uh tenure. What are about his father's uh tenure. What are the chances that the existing regime, the chances that the existing regime, the chances that the existing regime, what's left of it, there are people in what's left of it, there are people in what's left of it, there are people in that who would collaborate on moving to that who would collaborate on moving to that who would collaborate on moving to a democracy where specifically religion a democracy where specifically religion a democracy where specifically religion and the government were separated. This and the government were separated. This and the government were separated. This was something NBS was able to do in was something NBS was able to do in was something NBS was able to do in Saudi, but not without strong resistance Saudi, but not without strong resistance Saudi, but not without strong resistance and great risk to himself. This is a and great risk to himself. This is a and great risk to himself. This is a high-risisk thing, you know, with some high-risisk thing, you know, with some high-risisk thing, you know, with some of these radicalized individuals who of these radicalized individuals who of these radicalized individuals who want religion to rule over democracy. want religion to rule over democracy. want religion to rule over democracy. So, maybe you could unpack that a bit. So, maybe you could unpack that a bit. So, maybe you could unpack that a bit. >> Absolutely. The vast majority of >> Absolutely. The vast majority of >> Absolutely. The vast majority of Iranians uh want a a separation of of uh Iranians uh want a a separation of of uh Iranians uh want a a separation of of uh church and state um of mosque and state. church and state um of mosque and state. church and state um of mosque and state. uh and uh we've seen what 47 we've had uh and uh we've seen what 47 we've had uh and uh we've seen what 47 we've had an AB test uh in Silicon Valley speak of an AB test uh in Silicon Valley speak of an AB test uh in Silicon Valley speak of what happens when you have a system that what happens when you have a system that what happens when you have a system that is controlled by mullas. Uh it has led is controlled by mullas. Uh it has led is controlled by mullas. Uh it has led to absolute disaster and mayhem and to absolute disaster and mayhem and to absolute disaster and mayhem and evil. Um and uh so the vast majority are evil. Um and uh so the vast majority are evil. Um and uh so the vast majority are out there and they're saying Resa out there and they're saying Resa out there and they're saying Resa Palvy's name. If you look at the videos Palvy's name. If you look at the videos Palvy's name. If you look at the videos from uh January, they're saying Javit from uh January, they're saying Javit from uh January, they're saying Javit Shaw, they're saying his name to return. Shaw, they're saying his name to return. Shaw, they're saying his name to return. he called on them to come in the streets he called on them to come in the streets he called on them to come in the streets at 800 PM on the on the ETH and 9th. Uh at 800 PM on the on the ETH and 9th. Uh at 800 PM on the on the ETH and 9th. Uh and they came out in droves and by the and they came out in droves and by the and they came out in droves and by the millions in response to him. So the idea millions in response to him. So the idea millions in response to him. So the idea that we don't know who the Iranian that we don't know who the Iranian that we don't know who the Iranian people want uh to help lead this people want uh to help lead this people want uh to help lead this transition process, the proof is in the transition process, the proof is in the transition process, the proof is in the pudding. You just have to look at the pudding. You just have to look at the pudding. You just have to look at the videos and look at the the actual facts. videos and look at the the actual facts. videos and look at the the actual facts. Uh and that's the he's the only leader Uh and that's the he's the only leader Uh and that's the he's the only leader that uh Iranians are are by name calling that uh Iranians are are by name calling that uh Iranians are are by name calling out for to to come back and they're also out for to to come back and they're also out for to to come back and they're also calling for for Trump and Netanyahu to calling for for Trump and Netanyahu to calling for for Trump and Netanyahu to please help save them from this uh you please help save them from this uh you please help save them from this uh you know terror uh regime and and as we've know terror uh regime and and as we've know terror uh regime and and as we've seen in the last week their prayers have seen in the last week their prayers have seen in the last week their prayers have been answered uh in a tremendous way. been answered uh in a tremendous way. been answered uh in a tremendous way. And what is going to happen is basically And what is going to happen is basically And what is going to happen is basically a dismantling and a defanging of this a dismantling and a defanging of this a dismantling and a defanging of this regime's capabilities to use terror to regime's capabilities to use terror to regime's capabilities to use terror to use our military uh capabilities. Uh and use our military uh capabilities. Uh and use our military uh capabilities. Uh and we have to let the that run its course. we have to let the that run its course. we have to let the that run its course. Uh as the president said, this is Uh as the president said, this is Uh as the president said, this is probably about 4 weeks of work. Um you probably about 4 weeks of work. Um you probably about 4 weeks of work. Um you know, there was a leak uh I think in the know, there was a leak uh I think in the know, there was a leak uh I think in the Washington Post today that the 82nd Washington Post today that the 82nd Washington Post today that the 82nd Airborne was uh activated. Uh and that's Airborne was uh activated. Uh and that's Airborne was uh activated. Uh and that's a signal uh that uh this is going to a signal uh that uh this is going to a signal uh that uh this is going to potentially um lead to even more support potentially um lead to even more support potentially um lead to even more support uh in this liberation operation to uh uh in this liberation operation to uh uh in this liberation operation to uh completely dismantle this regime. Uh completely dismantle this regime. Uh completely dismantle this regime. Uh defections are a big part of the defections are a big part of the defections are a big part of the strategy that strategy that strategy that >> have the defections started yet or is >> have the defections started yet or is >> have the defections started yet or is that too risky for the individuals on that too risky for the individuals on that too risky for the individuals on the ground? What what what are you the ground? What what what are you the ground? What what what are you hearing through your back generals? hearing through your back generals? hearing through your back generals? Well, I I the the crown prince had a a a Well, I I the the crown prince had a a a Well, I I the the crown prince had a a a a system for people to communicate a system for people to communicate a system for people to communicate securely with him and his team and over securely with him and his team and over securely with him and his team and over 50,000 people in the military um have 50,000 people in the military um have 50,000 people in the military um have actually responded to that. Uh you saw actually responded to that. Uh you saw actually responded to that. Uh you saw some uh defections that were went viral some uh defections that were went viral some uh defections that were went viral uh during the protest and before the uh during the protest and before the uh during the protest and before the protests of of different military protests of of different military protests of of different military members. We expect that that as the members. We expect that that as the members. We expect that that as the dismantling process continues and many dismantling process continues and many dismantling process continues and many of the as you saw the the the the top of the as you saw the the the the top of the as you saw the the the the top leadership that the IRGC was eradicated leadership that the IRGC was eradicated leadership that the IRGC was eradicated in the first 24 hours. The the the the in the first 24 hours. The the the the in the first 24 hours. The the the the supreme leader was just an absolutely supreme leader was just an absolutely supreme leader was just an absolutely evil man. Uh was gone in the first 60 evil man. Uh was gone in the first 60 evil man. Uh was gone in the first 60 seconds. He spent 47 years threatening seconds. He spent 47 years threatening seconds. He spent 47 years threatening the world. He lasted 60 seconds. the world. He lasted 60 seconds. the world. He lasted 60 seconds. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's going to continue. Um and so >> And that's going to continue. Um and so >> And that's going to continue. Um and so uh I think it's going to be a very uh I think it's going to be a very uh I think it's going to be a very rational thing for the rest of uh uh who rational thing for the rest of uh uh who rational thing for the rest of uh uh who remains to realize that if they don't remains to realize that if they don't remains to realize that if they don't actually have a complete surrender and actually have a complete surrender and actually have a complete surrender and uh you know capitulate and for the ones uh you know capitulate and for the ones uh you know capitulate and for the ones that haven't actually uh executed the that haven't actually uh executed the that haven't actually uh executed the orders of genocide against the Iranian orders of genocide against the Iranian orders of genocide against the Iranian people, there'll be an opportunity for people, there'll be an opportunity for people, there'll be an opportunity for people to actually um be a part of the people to actually um be a part of the people to actually um be a part of the reformation and the reconstruction of reformation and the reconstruction of reformation and the reconstruction of Iran. Um the plan actually says uh even Iran. Um the plan actually says uh even Iran. Um the plan actually says uh even people in the military will be able to people in the military will be able to people in the military will be able to one even have early retirement for the one even have early retirement for the one even have early retirement for the ones that didn't actually um execute uh ones that didn't actually um execute uh ones that didn't actually um execute uh those uh you know uh acts of terror those uh you know uh acts of terror those uh you know uh acts of terror against the Iranian people. And then against the Iranian people. And then against the Iranian people. And then others who are talented and have the the others who are talented and have the the others who are talented and have the the ability to to serve and want to serve, ability to to serve and want to serve, ability to to serve and want to serve, they'll also be able to show up at work they'll also be able to show up at work they'll also be able to show up at work and continue to get paid and have some and continue to get paid and have some and continue to get paid and have some role uh wherever in the military and the role uh wherever in the military and the role uh wherever in the military and the government. So there's this isn't going government. So there's this isn't going government. So there's this isn't going to be a hunting down of people. The to be a hunting down of people. The to be a hunting down of people. The hunting down is happening right now. hunting down is happening right now. hunting down is happening right now. There'll be a process of peace and There'll be a process of peace and There'll be a process of peace and reconstruction reconstruction reconstruction um and rehabilitation. Uh that'll um and rehabilitation. Uh that'll um and rehabilitation. Uh that'll happen. And we're going to also need to happen. And we're going to also need to happen. And we're going to also need to have a lot of like um you know have a lot of like um you know have a lot of like um you know specialists to come in and help people specialists to come in and help people specialists to come in and help people with the trauma that they've been with the trauma that they've been with the trauma that they've been through. through. through. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> 47 years. Uh this is be a multiple >> 47 years. Uh this is be a multiple >> 47 years. Uh this is be a multiple multi-threaded multi-threaded multi-threaded >> multigeneration trauma. Yeah. >> multigeneration trauma. Yeah. >> multigeneration trauma. Yeah. >> Multigenerational. Yes. Uh tell me about >> Multigenerational. Yes. Uh tell me about >> Multigenerational. Yes. Uh tell me about uh the Kurd the Kurds being backed Msad uh the Kurd the Kurds being backed Msad uh the Kurd the Kurds being backed Msad and um the CIA are uh backing reportedly and um the CIA are uh backing reportedly and um the CIA are uh backing reportedly militias in the west and that's going to militias in the west and that's going to militias in the west and that's going to play a role. Yeah, play a role. Yeah, play a role. Yeah, >> I think you know we we have to be very >> I think you know we we have to be very >> I think you know we we have to be very very careful because uh a red line for very careful because uh a red line for very careful because uh a red line for the Iranian people is uh we have existed the Iranian people is uh we have existed the Iranian people is uh we have existed at a as a country for for 5,000 years as at a as a country for for 5,000 years as at a as a country for for 5,000 years as a people for 5,000 years. Whoever a people for 5,000 years. Whoever a people for 5,000 years. Whoever invaders came in or out, we always invaders came in or out, we always invaders came in or out, we always outlasted our invaders. These these outlasted our invaders. These these outlasted our invaders. These these people uh who have t had taken over for people uh who have t had taken over for people uh who have t had taken over for 47 years were occupiers. They weren't 47 years were occupiers. They weren't 47 years were occupiers. They weren't really truly Iranians. They were really truly Iranians. They were really truly Iranians. They were occupiers of this country. Uh and occupiers of this country. Uh and occupiers of this country. Uh and they'll be booted just like Gjas Khan they'll be booted just like Gjas Khan they'll be booted just like Gjas Khan and everyone else who who came into Iran and everyone else who who came into Iran and everyone else who who came into Iran were booted. Um and so uh it's very were booted. Um and so uh it's very were booted. Um and so uh it's very important we if if if there's any kind important we if if if there's any kind important we if if if there's any kind of separatist movement, we will lose the of separatist movement, we will lose the of separatist movement, we will lose the goodwill and the support of millions and goodwill and the support of millions and goodwill and the support of millions and millions of Iranians. Um and so millions of Iranians. Um and so millions of Iranians. Um and so >> it has to be one country. >> it has to be one country. >> it has to be one country. >> It has to be one country. The >> It has to be one country. The >> It has to be one country. The territorial integrity of Iran must be territorial integrity of Iran must be territorial integrity of Iran must be protected. That's a red line for the protected. That's a red line for the protected. That's a red line for the crown prince. It's a red line for the crown prince. It's a red line for the crown prince. It's a red line for the Iranian people. Um, and so that's that's Iranian people. Um, and so that's that's Iranian people. Um, and so that's that's incredibly important uh to to uh project incredibly important uh to to uh project incredibly important uh to to uh project that wherever there's collaborations that wherever there's collaborations that wherever there's collaborations that can happen uh to to be able to work that can happen uh to to be able to work that can happen uh to to be able to work together uh to fight uh for uh the together uh to fight uh for uh the together uh to fight uh for uh the deliberation to be completed and for a deliberation to be completed and for a deliberation to be completed and for a march on to Tehran and the crown prince march on to Tehran and the crown prince march on to Tehran and the crown prince being able to come back to lead this being able to come back to lead this being able to come back to lead this transition and physically come back to transition and physically come back to transition and physically come back to his homeland. Can you imagine that after his homeland. Can you imagine that after his homeland. Can you imagine that after 47 years of being away from his nation, 47 years of being away from his nation, 47 years of being away from his nation, >> me uh being away from my >> me uh being away from my >> me uh being away from my >> You've never been able to go back or >> You've never been able to go back or >> You've never been able to go back or have you snuck in? And have you snuck in? And have you snuck in? And >> I hadn't been back for you know I >> I hadn't been back for you know I >> I hadn't been back for you know I basically I was born in 1976. basically I was born in 1976. basically I was born in 1976. My dad the the last Sha was sending a My dad the the last Sha was sending a My dad the the last Sha was sending a lot of the top brilliant people on lot of the top brilliant people on lot of the top brilliant people on scholarships around the world. Iranian scholarships around the world. Iranian scholarships around the world. Iranian community in uh graduate school and community in uh graduate school and community in uh graduate school and universities was the largest population universities was the largest population universities was the largest population in 1970s. he was educating this whole um in 1970s. he was educating this whole um in 1970s. he was educating this whole um class of people and we were going back class of people and we were going back class of people and we were going back to to rebuild and build Iran into this to to rebuild and build Iran into this to to rebuild and build Iran into this great nation. We're at the cusp of great nation. We're at the cusp of great nation. We're at the cusp of greatness. So my father came to greatness. So my father came to greatness. So my father came to Washington DC uh where I am right now Washington DC uh where I am right now Washington DC uh where I am right now and uh I grew up here uh on 16th Street and uh I grew up here uh on 16th Street and uh I grew up here uh on 16th Street in in in Washington uh and he got his in in in Washington uh and he got his in in in Washington uh and he got his master's degree at Catholic University master's degree at Catholic University master's degree at Catholic University uh 1976 to 1978. uh 1976 to 1978. uh 1976 to 1978. Uh, and I remember when we first came, Uh, and I remember when we first came, Uh, and I remember when we first came, it was a bicesentennial of America now it was a bicesentennial of America now it was a bicesentennial of America now 50th anniversary. And so he returned, we 50th anniversary. And so he returned, we 50th anniversary. And so he returned, we returned to Iran 1978 returned to Iran 1978 returned to Iran 1978 um, right before the revolution. Really um, right before the revolution. Really um, right before the revolution. Really bad timing. And my dad had been promoted bad timing. And my dad had been promoted bad timing. And my dad had been promoted to head of radio and television for the to head of radio and television for the to head of radio and television for the Shaw. And uh, this all happened. The Shaw. And uh, this all happened. The Shaw. And uh, this all happened. The revolution happened, was coming back. revolution happened, was coming back. revolution happened, was coming back. And my dad made the courageous decision And my dad made the courageous decision And my dad made the courageous decision to help uh the US embassy get radio to help uh the US embassy get radio to help uh the US embassy get radio communications devices to them, do communications devices to them, do communications devices to them, do foreign language broadcast to tell u foreign language broadcast to tell u foreign language broadcast to tell u foreigners in Iran how to get out of the foreigners in Iran how to get out of the foreigners in Iran how to get out of the country. This was from the different country. This was from the different country. This was from the different embassies and embassies and embassies and put my father Abraham on the execution put my father Abraham on the execution put my father Abraham on the execution list. So he went into hiding for 10 list. So he went into hiding for 10 list. So he went into hiding for 10 months. I didn't see my dad for 10 months. I didn't see my dad for 10 months. I didn't see my dad for 10 months. and uh in kind of a kismid months. and uh in kind of a kismid months. and uh in kind of a kismid moment as someone he helped get a job in moment as someone he helped get a job in moment as someone he helped get a job in radio and television came to my our home radio and television came to my our home radio and television came to my our home and said to my mom I want to help and and said to my mom I want to help and and said to my mom I want to help and she didn't trust him and said I don't she didn't trust him and said I don't she didn't trust him and said I don't know where he is but she checked with my know where he is but she checked with my know where he is but she checked with my dad and and they came back and my dad dad and and they came back and my dad dad and and they came back and my dad said no you can trust him and that guy said no you can trust him and that guy said no you can trust him and that guy was the new head of security for the was the new head of security for the was the new head of security for the Meridabad airport in Thran and he Meridabad airport in Thran and he Meridabad airport in Thran and he personally met my father and I remember personally met my father and I remember personally met my father and I remember this moment I woke up to my brother this moment I woke up to my brother this moment I woke up to my brother crying and my dad was at the door after crying and my dad was at the door after crying and my dad was at the door after 10 months to say goodbye cuz he didn't 10 months to say goodbye cuz he didn't 10 months to say goodbye cuz he didn't know if he was going to survive. Uh and know if he was going to survive. Uh and know if he was going to survive. Uh and he went to the airport um met his friend he went to the airport um met his friend he went to the airport um met his friend and he walked him onto the Air France and he walked him onto the Air France and he walked him onto the Air France flight and uh you know crying he he flew flight and uh you know crying he he flew flight and uh you know crying he he flew uh out uh and came to America and the uh out uh and came to America and the uh out uh and came to America and the people he had helped helped him uh get people he had helped helped him uh get people he had helped helped him uh get his papers and everything in order and his papers and everything in order and his papers and everything in order and then we were stuck in Iran for two then we were stuck in Iran for two then we were stuck in Iran for two years. Saddam invaded, bombs were years. Saddam invaded, bombs were years. Saddam invaded, bombs were falling on us every night and the signs falling on us every night and the signs falling on us every night and the signs were going off. So then we escaped with were going off. So then we escaped with were going off. So then we escaped with my mom and my brother and sister. Came my mom and my brother and sister. Came my mom and my brother and sister. Came to America with $35. My dad was driving to America with $35. My dad was driving to America with $35. My dad was driving a taxi while getting his PhD. My dad a a taxi while getting his PhD. My dad a a taxi while getting his PhD. My dad a >> great paradox. >> great paradox. >> great paradox. >> My mom was [laughter] like, "Yeah, I did >> My mom was [laughter] like, "Yeah, I did >> My mom was [laughter] like, "Yeah, I did Uber." Actually Uber Uber." Actually Uber Uber." Actually Uber that was one of the things in my first that was one of the things in my first that was one of the things in my first meeting with Jason with uh with Travis. meeting with Jason with uh with Travis. meeting with Jason with uh with Travis. I told him that story and I and I I know I told him that story and I and I I know I told him that story and I and I I know that like growing up in a orange and that like growing up in a orange and that like growing up in a orange and black taxi cab in in in Washington DC black taxi cab in in in Washington DC black taxi cab in in in Washington DC helped me win the Uber deal against all helped me win the Uber deal against all helped me win the Uber deal against all the greats in venture. the greats in venture. the greats in venture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's all full circle. Only in >> You know, it's all full circle. Only in >> You know, it's all full circle. Only in America would that be possible. You America would that be possible. You America would that be possible. You know, this the son of a taxi driver and know, this the son of a taxi driver and know, this the son of a taxi driver and a maid. Uh you know, coming to America a maid. Uh you know, coming to America a maid. Uh you know, coming to America with nothing be able to have the with nothing be able to have the with nothing be able to have the blessing of the life that we've had. And blessing of the life that we've had. And blessing of the life that we've had. And I've never forgotten those roots. I've I've never forgotten those roots. I've I've never forgotten those roots. I've tried to to serve America. Um and um I'm tried to to serve America. Um and um I'm tried to to serve America. Um and um I'm uh you know uh now now helping in any uh you know uh now now helping in any uh you know uh now now helping in any way that I can to uh uh help the crown way that I can to uh uh help the crown way that I can to uh uh help the crown prince in this transition process for a prince in this transition process for a prince in this transition process for a free Iran and and rebuild Iran into free Iran and and rebuild Iran into free Iran and and rebuild Iran into something great. So make something great. So make something great. So make >> what's extraordinary to me about the >> what's extraordinary to me about the >> what's extraordinary to me about the Iranian people is they have maintained Iranian people is they have maintained Iranian people is they have maintained even under this oppression that spirit even under this oppression that spirit even under this oppression that spirit 47 years later. I I don't know if you've 47 years later. I I don't know if you've 47 years later. I I don't know if you've ever seen the Anthony Bourdain ever seen the Anthony Bourdain ever seen the Anthony Bourdain >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> uh you know episode when he goes there. >> uh you know episode when he goes there. >> uh you know episode when he goes there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And it was always touched me. I don't >> And it was always touched me. I don't >> And it was always touched me. I don't know if this was like a decade ago when know if this was like a decade ago when know if this was like a decade ago when he did it he did it he did it >> and he said, "I can't believe it. This >> and he said, "I can't believe it. This >> and he said, "I can't believe it. This these people are Americans. They're these people are Americans. They're these people are Americans. They're they're eating Pizza Hut. They're they're eating Pizza Hut. They're they're eating Pizza Hut. They're listening to music. They're having some listening to music. They're having some listening to music. They're having some beers on their back porch. They're beers on their back porch. They're beers on their back porch. They're dancing. They are on VPNs, you know, dancing. They are on VPNs, you know, dancing. They are on VPNs, you know, understanding culture and what's going understanding culture and what's going understanding culture and what's going on around the world. even under the on around the world. even under the on around the world. even under the oppression, women, gays, uh, everybody oppression, women, gays, uh, everybody oppression, women, gays, uh, everybody in between, uh, they're suffering and in between, uh, they're suffering and in between, uh, they're suffering and they're still have that joy of life that they're still have that joy of life that they're still have that joy of life that every Persian I've ever met will stay every Persian I've ever met will stay every Persian I've ever met will stay with you like the Greeks or the Irish with you like the Greeks or the Irish with you like the Greeks or the Irish and they will close the restaurant. They and they will close the restaurant. They and they will close the restaurant. They will talk and the restaurant closes the will talk and the restaurant closes the will talk and the restaurant closes the door, the owner of the restaurant sits door, the owner of the restaurant sits door, the owner of the restaurant sits down and you just talk for another hour. down and you just talk for another hour. down and you just talk for another hour. Some of the most beautiful people I've Some of the most beautiful people I've Some of the most beautiful people I've ever met and uh, it's just I'm so glad ever met and uh, it's just I'm so glad ever met and uh, it's just I'm so glad that you are engaged in this. uh very that you are engaged in this. uh very that you are engaged in this. uh very much appreciate you bringing the prince. much appreciate you bringing the prince. much appreciate you bringing the prince. Thank you Jason understand the soul of Thank you Jason understand the soul of Thank you Jason understand the soul of the Iranian and that is exact we're the the Iranian and that is exact we're the the Iranian and that is exact we're the we love to host our friends on the we love to host our friends on the we love to host our friends on the social and uh and u you know there truly social and uh and u you know there truly social and uh and u you know there truly are as American as you can be uh we love are as American as you can be uh we love are as American as you can be uh we love our freedom uh we've suffered for so our freedom uh we've suffered for so our freedom uh we've suffered for so long uh and we're so thankful for uh long uh and we're so thankful for uh long uh and we're so thankful for uh President Trump uh having having the President Trump uh having having the President Trump uh having having the courage to take on this evil regime and courage to take on this evil regime and courage to take on this evil regime and we look forward to uh hosting all-in pod we look forward to uh hosting all-in pod we look forward to uh hosting all-in pod in tan in tan in tan >> that would >> that would >> that would sooner than later. sooner than later. sooner than later. >> One of the great bucket lists of my life >> One of the great bucket lists of my life >> One of the great bucket lists of my life to be able to go to and host the podcast to be able to go to and host the podcast to be able to go to and host the podcast there and have tea [clears throat] with there and have tea [clears throat] with there and have tea [clears throat] with you in you in you in >> Let's put on the schedule a year from >> Let's put on the schedule a year from >> Let's put on the schedule a year from today. today. today. >> Best food in in the world. I can't wait. >> Best food in in the world. I can't wait. >> Best food in in the world. I can't wait. >> What's the signature? What's the >> What's the signature? What's the >> What's the signature? What's the signature for you? What's the signature signature for you? What's the signature signature for you? What's the signature dish? What's the What's your favorite? dish? What's the What's your favorite? dish? What's the What's your favorite? >> Everyone loves the the Persian kebabs, >> Everyone loves the the Persian kebabs, >> Everyone loves the the Persian kebabs, right? But the kebabs in Iran are right? But the kebabs in Iran are right? But the kebabs in Iran are something else. There's like it's a it's something else. There's like it's a it's something else. There's like it's a it's a tremendous uh a tremendous uh a tremendous uh >> you know food culture. Uh and the >> you know food culture. Uh and the >> you know food culture. Uh and the national dish is called orabzi national dish is called orabzi national dish is called orabzi um which is a stew of lamb and and my um which is a stew of lamb and and my um which is a stew of lamb and and my mom was like the greatest version cook mom was like the greatest version cook mom was like the greatest version cook in the world and she would cook it for in the world and she would cook it for in the world and she would cook it for three days. Uh and these foods I can't three days. Uh and these foods I can't three days. Uh and these foods I can't wait to to break bread with you in a wait to to break bread with you in a wait to to break bread with you in a free room. It'll be free room. It'll be free room. It'll be >> Yeah. I mean [clears throat] that's one >> Yeah. I mean [clears throat] that's one >> Yeah. I mean [clears throat] that's one of the things the Greeks and the of the things the Greeks and the of the things the Greeks and the Iranians share is that love of lamb. Iranians share is that love of lamb. Iranians share is that love of lamb. cannot wait. All right, my brother. Um cannot wait. All right, my brother. Um cannot wait. All right, my brother. Um >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> I'm so glad you're engaged in this. >> I'm so glad you're engaged in this. >> I'm so glad you're engaged in this. Gives me hope. Um and Gives me hope. Um and Gives me hope. Um and >> good luck in the next uh three, four, >> good luck in the next uh three, four, >> good luck in the next uh three, four, five weeks. Let's hope and pray for the five weeks. Let's hope and pray for the five weeks. Let's hope and pray for the best. best. best. >> Thank you >> Thank you >> Thank you >> to the all-in audience. We'll see you >> to the all-in audience. We'll see you >> to the all-in audience. 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