DSA Candidate Wins Michigan Primary, Trumps Ends Birth Tourism, & AI Agents Are Getting Out Of Hand

Good morning everybody. Welcome to Good morning everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Tom Billy Show another episode of the Tom Billy Show another episode of the Tom Billy Show live. It is a Friday. We've got a big live. It is a Friday. We've got a big live. It is a Friday. We've got a big one for you today. We're going to be one for you today. We're going to be one for you today. We're going to be going into the third hour because we've going into the third hour because we've going into the third hour because we've got so much to go over as you would got so much to go over as you would got so much to go over as you would expect given what just happened. Els expect given what just happened. Els expect given what just happened. Els wins in Michigan Senate primary. He is a wins in Michigan Senate primary. He is a wins in Michigan Senate primary. He is a one-man machine proving that the DSA is one-man machine proving that the DSA is one-man machine proving that the DSA is still on a roll. And for anybody that still on a roll. And for anybody that still on a roll. And for anybody that doesn't think he's a part of the DSA, doesn't think he's a part of the DSA, doesn't think he's a part of the DSA, boy, do I have a treat for you today. So boy, do I have a treat for you today. So boy, do I have a treat for you today. So stay tuned. Trump has signed an EO stay tuned. Trump has signed an EO stay tuned. Trump has signed an EO making birth tourism much more making birth tourism much more making birth tourism much more difficult. We're going to get into the difficult. We're going to get into the difficult. We're going to get into the nitty-gritty of what the EO does and nitty-gritty of what the EO does and nitty-gritty of what the EO does and doesn't do. Scott Bessant is playing doesn't do. Scott Bessant is playing doesn't do. Scott Bessant is playing fast and loose with some numbers uh in fast and loose with some numbers uh in fast and loose with some numbers uh in the hopes that no one is actually the hopes that no one is actually the hopes that no one is actually looking, but I'm looking and I'm going looking, but I'm looking and I'm going looking, but I'm looking and I'm going to break down what the data actually to break down what the data actually to break down what the data actually says. Uh Scott is somebody that I says. Uh Scott is somebody that I says. Uh Scott is somebody that I normally I love hearing him talk, but normally I love hearing him talk, but normally I love hearing him talk, but this one he is in full propaganda mode. this one he is in full propaganda mode. this one he is in full propaganda mode. Tucker Carlson has unveiled a 10-point Tucker Carlson has unveiled a 10-point Tucker Carlson has unveiled a 10-point plan for America, and it is a very plan for America, and it is a very plan for America, and it is a very fascinating mixed bag of the brilliant fascinating mixed bag of the brilliant fascinating mixed bag of the brilliant and the unhinged. You guys are going to and the unhinged. You guys are going to and the unhinged. You guys are going to want to hear that breakdown. We're going want to hear that breakdown. We're going want to hear that breakdown. We're going to go through um a take from Professor to go through um a take from Professor to go through um a take from Professor Gang Young, who breaks down the Gang Young, who breaks down the Gang Young, who breaks down the incredible risk that the war in Iran incredible risk that the war in Iran incredible risk that the war in Iran presents to the entire future of the US presents to the entire future of the US presents to the entire future of the US economy. If you guys miss this one like economy. If you guys miss this one like economy. If you guys miss this one like I did, um you're going to want to hear I did, um you're going to want to hear I did, um you're going to want to hear it. It is. It is terrifying and it. It is. It is terrifying and it. It is. It is terrifying and incredibly interesting. I think he's incredibly interesting. I think he's incredibly interesting. I think he's wrong about some things and we're going wrong about some things and we're going wrong about some things and we're going to go through that. Now, a key AI to go through that. Now, a key AI to go through that. Now, a key AI researcher said, "I'm leaving Open AI to researcher said, "I'm leaving Open AI to researcher said, "I'm leaving Open AI to build telepathy." Telepathy. Now, I wish build telepathy." Telepathy. Now, I wish build telepathy." Telepathy. Now, I wish that I could just laugh that one off as that I could just laugh that one off as that I could just laugh that one off as I do every time Drew tries to get me to I do every time Drew tries to get me to I do every time Drew tries to get me to talk about aliens, but this one I don't talk about aliens, but this one I don't talk about aliens, but this one I don't think you can just laugh off given think you can just laugh off given think you can just laugh off given what's going on with technology. So, what's going on with technology. So, what's going on with technology. So, we're going to be diving into that. All we're going to be diving into that. All we're going to be diving into that. All right. But first, we got to talk about right. But first, we got to talk about right. But first, we got to talk about it. The DSA, man, these guys are on a it. The DSA, man, these guys are on a it. The DSA, man, these guys are on a tear. The DSA continues its absolutely tear. The DSA continues its absolutely tear. The DSA continues its absolutely hostile takeover of the Democrat party. hostile takeover of the Democrat party. hostile takeover of the Democrat party. Abdul Elsa just won Michigan's Democrat Abdul Elsa just won Michigan's Democrat Abdul Elsa just won Michigan's Democrat Senate primary. He'll tell you he is not Senate primary. He'll tell you he is not Senate primary. He'll tell you he is not officially a part of the DSA, but he officially a part of the DSA, but he officially a part of the DSA, but he spouts their same policies, hangs out spouts their same policies, hangs out spouts their same policies, hangs out with those guys all the time. They call with those guys all the time. They call with those guys all the time. They call him an ally. and he campaigns with and him an ally. and he campaigns with and him an ally. and he campaigns with and is endorsed by Hassan [ __ ] who is the is endorsed by Hassan [ __ ] who is the is endorsed by Hassan [ __ ] who is the Pied Piper of the DSA. Now, if it walks Pied Piper of the DSA. Now, if it walks Pied Piper of the DSA. Now, if it walks like a commie and it talks like a like a commie and it talks like a like a commie and it talks like a commie, comrade, odds are it's a commie. commie, comrade, odds are it's a commie. commie, comrade, odds are it's a commie. Now, please keep in mind, I do not mean Now, please keep in mind, I do not mean Now, please keep in mind, I do not mean communist as an exaggeration for effect. communist as an exaggeration for effect. communist as an exaggeration for effect. I mean it very literally. The DSA is a I mean it very literally. The DSA is a I mean it very literally. The DSA is a selfstated communist organization that selfstated communist organization that selfstated communist organization that has a self-stated aim that they are not has a self-stated aim that they are not has a self-stated aim that they are not shy about in literally the destruction shy about in literally the destruction shy about in literally the destruction of the American form of government. of the American form of government. of the American form of government. They talk very openly about what they're They talk very openly about what they're They talk very openly about what they're trying to change. It is a horrifying trying to change. It is a horrifying trying to change. It is a horrifying list of let's ignore exactly the thing list of let's ignore exactly the thing list of let's ignore exactly the thing that the founding fathers put in place that the founding fathers put in place that the founding fathers put in place so that we could make sure that the so that we could make sure that the so that we could make sure that the government could not trend towards government could not trend towards government could not trend towards tyranny. So, for them to strip out all tyranny. So, for them to strip out all tyranny. So, for them to strip out all of those protections, which is exactly of those protections, which is exactly of those protections, which is exactly what they want to do, uh it is absolute what they want to do, uh it is absolute what they want to do, uh it is absolute madness. And so, you're going to hear me madness. And so, you're going to hear me madness. And so, you're going to hear me continue to bang this drum as it is continue to bang this drum as it is continue to bang this drum as it is absolutely ridiculous what they want. absolutely ridiculous what they want. absolutely ridiculous what they want. And El Say is rightly categorized as And El Say is rightly categorized as And El Say is rightly categorized as being on that same train. Elsid wants to being on that same train. Elsid wants to being on that same train. Elsid wants to defund the police. He referred to the defund the police. He referred to the defund the police. He referred to the police, by the way, as standing armies police, by the way, as standing armies police, by the way, as standing armies deployed against Americans. So now deployed against Americans. So now deployed against Americans. So now imagine what happens when you don't have imagine what happens when you don't have imagine what happens when you don't have said standing army to help you against said standing army to help you against said standing army to help you against Americans who have gone very very ary Americans who have gone very very ary Americans who have gone very very ary and instead the criminals are going to and instead the criminals are going to and instead the criminals are going to have unfettered access. The sad reality have unfettered access. The sad reality have unfettered access. The sad reality of the human condition is that the of the human condition is that the of the human condition is that the strong will do as they will and the weak strong will do as they will and the weak strong will do as they will and the weak will suffer as they must. If you guys will suffer as they must. If you guys will suffer as they must. If you guys remember the chaz chop from back in remember the chaz chop from back in remember the chaz chop from back in Seattle during the summer of love, uh Seattle during the summer of love, uh Seattle during the summer of love, uh what did it end in? Gang violence and what did it end in? Gang violence and what did it end in? Gang violence and people getting shot because there is no people getting shot because there is no people getting shot because there is no one there to help. also sexual uh one there to help. also sexual uh one there to help. also sexual uh violence. It's just obviously I hope violence. It's just obviously I hope violence. It's just obviously I hope it's obvious anyway to everybody that it's obvious anyway to everybody that it's obvious anyway to everybody that there are some people who wish you harm there are some people who wish you harm there are some people who wish you harm and if you don't have somebody that and if you don't have somebody that and if you don't have somebody that stands between you and them uh you're in stands between you and them uh you're in stands between you and them uh you're in trouble. So this is one of the most trouble. So this is one of the most trouble. So this is one of the most stupid takes in the universe. Now he stupid takes in the universe. Now he stupid takes in the universe. Now he wants to also abolish ICE. He wants to wants to also abolish ICE. He wants to wants to also abolish ICE. He wants to expand social benefits beyond our expand social benefits beyond our expand social benefits beyond our already remember 47% of our budget already remember 47% of our budget already remember 47% of our budget already goes to social programs. So, already goes to social programs. So, already goes to social programs. So, when we're talking about pushing north when we're talking about pushing north when we're talking about pushing north of 50%, we have a problem. And he wants of 50%, we have a problem. And he wants of 50%, we have a problem. And he wants to give driver's licenses to illegal to give driver's licenses to illegal to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. Now, of course, he denies a immigrants. Now, of course, he denies a immigrants. Now, of course, he denies a lot of these claims, but it does not lot of these claims, but it does not lot of these claims, but it does not take long to find the deleted tweets take long to find the deleted tweets take long to find the deleted tweets that he has tried to push out into the that he has tried to push out into the that he has tried to push out into the ether, but of course, the internet is ether, but of course, the internet is ether, but of course, the internet is forever. And so, you can find them, see forever. And so, you can find them, see forever. And so, you can find them, see him saying these things explicitly, so him saying these things explicitly, so him saying these things explicitly, so you don't have to do a lot of guesswork. you don't have to do a lot of guesswork. you don't have to do a lot of guesswork. Now, the good news about what just Now, the good news about what just Now, the good news about what just happened is that he only won by roughly happened is that he only won by roughly happened is that he only won by roughly one point, which is fewer than 20,000 one point, which is fewer than 20,000 one point, which is fewer than 20,000 votes. But that good news starts to look votes. But that good news starts to look votes. But that good news starts to look pretty thin when you consider that Haley pretty thin when you consider that Haley pretty thin when you consider that Haley Stevens, who he ran against, had Stevens, who he ran against, had Stevens, who he ran against, had literally everything going for her and literally everything going for her and literally everything going for her and she still could not beat him. She had she still could not beat him. She had she still could not beat him. She had Governor Whitmer's endorsement, Chuck Governor Whitmer's endorsement, Chuck Governor Whitmer's endorsement, Chuck Schumer's endorsement, about $60 million Schumer's endorsement, about $60 million Schumer's endorsement, about $60 million in outside money. But the bad news is, in outside money. But the bad news is, in outside money. But the bad news is, if you guys are paying attention at all, if you guys are paying attention at all, if you guys are paying attention at all, 30 million of that came from Apac 30 million of that came from Apac 30 million of that came from Apac affiliated super PAC. And that these affiliated super PAC. And that these affiliated super PAC. And that these days, kids in the Democrat party is the days, kids in the Democrat party is the days, kids in the Democrat party is the kiss of death. People need to learn that kiss of death. People need to learn that kiss of death. People need to learn that one real fast. Ad impact tracked $98 one real fast. Ad impact tracked $98 one real fast. Ad impact tracked $98 million in total spending. The third million in total spending. The third million in total spending. The third most expensive Senate primary in most expensive Senate primary in most expensive Senate primary in American history. Damn. Stevens and her American history. Damn. Stevens and her American history. Damn. Stevens and her allies outspent Elsa allies outspent Elsa allies outspent Elsa nearly 9 to one. 921. nearly 9 to one. 921. nearly 9 to one. 921. That's a lot. That's a lot a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot a lot. Proving that there is just an absolute Proving that there is just an absolute Proving that there is just an absolute ton of energy going behind the DSA. And ton of energy going behind the DSA. And ton of energy going behind the DSA. And despite having all of those advantages, despite having all of those advantages, despite having all of those advantages, Elsai won anyway. Now, he says again Elsai won anyway. Now, he says again Elsai won anyway. Now, he says again that he's not the DSA, but let's just that he's not the DSA, but let's just that he's not the DSA, but let's just run through some stats. He spoke at six run through some stats. He spoke at six run through some stats. He spoke at six DSA events between 2017 and 2020. Uh, by DSA events between 2017 and 2020. Uh, by DSA events between 2017 and 2020. Uh, by the way, I'm going to go out on a limb the way, I'm going to go out on a limb the way, I'm going to go out on a limb and say before he realized that this was and say before he realized that this was and say before he realized that this was going to start becoming a political going to start becoming a political going to start becoming a political liability for him, Detroit DSA liability for him, Detroit DSA liability for him, Detroit DSA organizers describe him as a longtime organizers describe him as a longtime organizers describe him as a longtime ally, DSA volunteers worked the state ally, DSA volunteers worked the state ally, DSA volunteers worked the state for him. Bernie Sanders, who loves for him. Bernie Sanders, who loves for him. Bernie Sanders, who loves himself some socialism, and he loves himself some socialism, and he loves himself some socialism, and he loves himself some DSA. He endorsed him and so himself some DSA. He endorsed him and so himself some DSA. He endorsed him and so did every member of the socialist squad. did every member of the socialist squad. did every member of the socialist squad. And as mentioned previously, Hassan And as mentioned previously, Hassan And as mentioned previously, Hassan [ __ ] rallied with him, including the [ __ ] rallied with him, including the [ __ ] rallied with him, including the night before the vote, and proving just night before the vote, and proving just night before the vote, and proving just how much energy is not just behind Elsad how much energy is not just behind Elsad how much energy is not just behind Elsad from the DSA, but just across the board. from the DSA, but just across the board. from the DSA, but just across the board. The same night that Elsed won in The same night that Elsed won in The same night that Elsed won in Michigan's 13th district, DSA uh member Michigan's 13th district, DSA uh member Michigan's 13th district, DSA uh member Donovan McKini unseated incumbent Shri Donovan McKini unseated incumbent Shri Donovan McKini unseated incumbent Shri Thanadar by four points. Thanadar had Thanadar by four points. Thanadar had Thanadar by four points. Thanadar had the money again, Apac and Hakeem Jeff. the money again, Apac and Hakeem Jeff. the money again, Apac and Hakeem Jeff. And this is one of those things, man. And this is one of those things, man. And this is one of those things, man. You can be as pro you can be as pro- You can be as pro you can be as pro- You can be as pro you can be as pro- Israel as you want, but you've got to Israel as you want, but you've got to Israel as you want, but you've got to understand on the Democrat side of this, understand on the Democrat side of this, understand on the Democrat side of this, if you're a Democrat and you are if you're a Democrat and you are if you're a Democrat and you are pounding your chest for Israel, that is pounding your chest for Israel, that is pounding your chest for Israel, that is not going to go well for you. That just not going to go well for you. That just not going to go well for you. That just is not where the energy is. And look, I is not where the energy is. And look, I is not where the energy is. And look, I get it. You don't just want to pander to get it. You don't just want to pander to get it. You don't just want to pander to where people are, but man, you also where people are, but man, you also where people are, but man, you also don't want to shoot yourself in the don't want to shoot yourself in the don't want to shoot yourself in the foot. You've got to address where people foot. You've got to address where people foot. You've got to address where people are. You've got to meet them where their are. You've got to meet them where their are. You've got to meet them where their psych their psychology is. It's just psych their psychology is. It's just psych their psychology is. It's just like anybody on the Republican side. And like anybody on the Republican side. And like anybody on the Republican side. And Scott Besson, I'm looking at you Scott Besson, I'm looking at you Scott Besson, I'm looking at you pretending like everything is fine in pretending like everything is fine in pretending like everything is fine in the economy. You're going to get your the economy. You're going to get your the economy. You're going to get your ass handed to you. As with all ass handed to you. As with all ass handed to you. As with all philosophies, boys and girls, in your philosophies, boys and girls, in your philosophies, boys and girls, in your life, if you have a hypothesis, it must life, if you have a hypothesis, it must life, if you have a hypothesis, it must describe the world that you actually describe the world that you actually describe the world that you actually see. So, you cannot tell people there's see. So, you cannot tell people there's see. So, you cannot tell people there's no problem with the economy as people no problem with the economy as people no problem with the economy as people are struggling to make ends meet. You are struggling to make ends meet. You are struggling to make ends meet. You have to explain how we got here and have to explain how we got here and have to explain how we got here and precisely what you're going to do to get precisely what you're going to do to get precisely what you're going to do to get out of it. If you want to raise money out of it. If you want to raise money out of it. If you want to raise money and you're going to be raising money and you're going to be raising money and you're going to be raising money from Apac, yikes, you are going to have from Apac, yikes, you are going to have from Apac, yikes, you are going to have to have the world's most compelling to have the world's most compelling to have the world's most compelling argument for why that is the right thing argument for why that is the right thing argument for why that is the right thing to do right now. And like Federman, to do right now. And like Federman, to do right now. And like Federman, watching Federman uh say that Israel is watching Federman uh say that Israel is watching Federman uh say that Israel is the line in the sand for him and if you the line in the sand for him and if you the line in the sand for him and if you don't support Israel, then he just can't don't support Israel, then he just can't don't support Israel, then he just can't be involved with you. His argument, he be involved with you. His argument, he be involved with you. His argument, he didn't even finish the sentence. It was didn't even finish the sentence. It was didn't even finish the sentence. It was just like sort of this bumbling thing just like sort of this bumbling thing just like sort of this bumbling thing where it's like it it where it's like it it where it's like it it >> it it So I'm specifically talking about >> it it So I'm specifically talking about >> it it So I'm specifically talking about when he was on with John Stewart. Oh, when he was on with John Stewart. Oh, when he was on with John Stewart. Oh, you have the clip. Oh my god. Play this. you have the clip. Oh my god. Play this. you have the clip. Oh my god. Play this. Play this. Play this. Play this. >> And what's really set me apart of most >> And what's really set me apart of most >> And what's really set me apart of most of the Democratic party is Israel. And of the Democratic party is Israel. And of the Democratic party is Israel. And that's fair. It criticized John Federman that's fair. It criticized John Federman that's fair. It criticized John Federman on Israel without a doubt 100%. So on Israel without a doubt 100%. So on Israel without a doubt 100%. So that's been primarily and that's been that's been primarily and that's been that's been primarily and that's been driving our party. driving our party. driving our party. >> So for you, you could agree with them >> So for you, you could agree with them >> So for you, you could agree with them 90% but Israel is the red line. AB 90% but Israel is the red line. AB 90% but Israel is the red line. AB absolutely Israel for me like I I can't absolutely Israel for me like I I can't absolutely Israel for me like I I can't ever turn my back to Israel after after ever turn my back to Israel after after ever turn my back to Israel after after where it's at. where it's at. where it's at. >> So and and I mean no disrespect on this >> So and and I mean no disrespect on this >> So and and I mean no disrespect on this but that is not but that is not but that is not >> pause and then back give me back up a >> pause and then back give me back up a >> pause and then back give me back up a little bit cuz I want to hear him say little bit cuz I want to hear him say little bit cuz I want to hear him say this um through but even when he goes to this um through but even when he goes to this um through but even when he goes to like explain succinctly why Israel is a like explain succinctly why Israel is a like explain succinctly why Israel is a red line, he goes like where they are. red line, he goes like where they are. red line, he goes like where they are. What What What where they're at? What what does that where they're at? What what does that where they're at? What what does that mean? like you've got this is somebody mean? like you've got this is somebody mean? like you've got this is somebody who when you find and listen I this who when you find and listen I this who when you find and listen I this happens to me as well but when you find happens to me as well but when you find happens to me as well but when you find yourself where you've got like this yourself where you've got like this yourself where you've got like this nested sense of a heristic this thing is nested sense of a heristic this thing is nested sense of a heristic this thing is bad but and you really feel it to the bad but and you really feel it to the bad but and you really feel it to the core of your existence right uh so DSA core of your existence right uh so DSA core of your existence right uh so DSA mom Donnie for me I have just a a core mom Donnie for me I have just a a core mom Donnie for me I have just a a core emotional belief that this is all a big emotional belief that this is all a big emotional belief that this is all a big problem but if you just say that that's problem but if you just say that that's problem but if you just say that that's meaningless that that's you reasoning by meaningless that that's you reasoning by meaningless that that's you reasoning by emotion you've got to be able to anchor emotion you've got to be able to anchor emotion you've got to be able to anchor it back and go Okay, these are the it back and go Okay, these are the it back and go Okay, these are the specific things that make this a specific things that make this a specific things that make this a problem. And I don't know if Federman problem. And I don't know if Federman problem. And I don't know if Federman has an answer and he just didn't give it has an answer and he just didn't give it has an answer and he just didn't give it here. If he really like, okay, here are here. If he really like, okay, here are here. If he really like, okay, here are the five reasons why I believe that the five reasons why I believe that the five reasons why I believe that Israel needs to be a red line. I Israel needs to be a red line. I Israel needs to be a red line. I understand it is really unpopular, but understand it is really unpopular, but understand it is really unpopular, but it's unpopular because people are it's unpopular because people are it's unpopular because people are reasoning from emotion. So, let me reasoning from emotion. So, let me reasoning from emotion. So, let me ground you in the reason why from an ground you in the reason why from an ground you in the reason why from an economic standpoint, we have to be economic standpoint, we have to be economic standpoint, we have to be partnering up with Israel, especially partnering up with Israel, especially partnering up with Israel, especially now. Iran is trying to bully the region. now. Iran is trying to bully the region. now. Iran is trying to bully the region. Even if it's our fault that, you know, Even if it's our fault that, you know, Even if it's our fault that, you know, they're in that position, oil remains they're in that position, oil remains they're in that position, oil remains economically critical and the GCC economically critical and the GCC economically critical and the GCC nations are going to need alternatives. nations are going to need alternatives. nations are going to need alternatives. Some of those are going to have to run Some of those are going to have to run Some of those are going to have to run through Israel. So maybe historically through Israel. So maybe historically through Israel. So maybe historically calling them the um aircraft carrier calling them the um aircraft carrier calling them the um aircraft carrier that can't be sunk in the Middle East that can't be sunk in the Middle East that can't be sunk in the Middle East was a stupid thing to say, but now it's was a stupid thing to say, but now it's was a stupid thing to say, but now it's really going to be real because these really going to be real because these really going to be real because these pipelines are going to run. There's pipelines are going to run. There's pipelines are going to run. There's plenty of argument to be had with that, plenty of argument to be had with that, plenty of argument to be had with that, but at least it's a cogent argument but at least it's a cogent argument but at least it's a cogent argument that's like, okay, this is why we have that's like, okay, this is why we have that's like, okay, this is why we have to do it. Not some sort of vague like to do it. Not some sort of vague like to do it. Not some sort of vague like emotional appeal or I just feel that emotional appeal or I just feel that emotional appeal or I just feel that it's so I really think first of all, it's so I really think first of all, it's so I really think first of all, John Stewart, you you cannot dismiss John Stewart, you you cannot dismiss John Stewart, you you cannot dismiss this guy. Like John Stewart's a bright this guy. Like John Stewart's a bright this guy. Like John Stewart's a bright guy. Uh people always go, "Oh, he was guy. Uh people always go, "Oh, he was guy. Uh people always go, "Oh, he was never funny." He's funny. He's funny and never funny." He's funny. He's funny and never funny." He's funny. He's funny and he's sharp. Uh even if I don't agree he's sharp. Uh even if I don't agree he's sharp. Uh even if I don't agree with the vast majority of the things with the vast majority of the things with the vast majority of the things that he says, he is funny. He is smart. that he says, he is funny. He is smart. that he says, he is funny. He is smart. And he's setting Federman a trap here. And he's setting Federman a trap here. And he's setting Federman a trap here. And the fact that he Federman is getting And the fact that he Federman is getting And the fact that he Federman is getting sucked into it, which is weird. I don't sucked into it, which is weird. I don't sucked into it, which is weird. I don't know if he just doesn't pay enough know if he just doesn't pay enough know if he just doesn't pay enough attention to John Stewart. I really attention to John Stewart. I really attention to John Stewart. I really think he thought Stuart was gonna like think he thought Stuart was gonna like think he thought Stuart was gonna like cosign what he's saying that he doesn't cosign what he's saying that he doesn't cosign what he's saying that he doesn't have to actually make a coherent have to actually make a coherent have to actually make a coherent argument for why Israel that he can just argument for why Israel that he can just argument for why Israel that he can just say Israel feelings vibes. And that say Israel feelings vibes. And that say Israel feelings vibes. And that Stuart's going to be like, "Yeah, Stuart's going to be like, "Yeah, Stuart's going to be like, "Yeah, vibes." And uh what I like about Stuart vibes." And uh what I like about Stuart vibes." And uh what I like about Stuart is that like during co he he was not is that like during co he he was not is that like during co he he was not doing the party line thing. He was like, doing the party line thing. He was like, doing the party line thing. He was like, "This is what I think you guys are "This is what I think you guys are "This is what I think you guys are trying to say that saying that it came trying to say that saying that it came trying to say that saying that it came from a lab in Wuhan is crazy when it's from a lab in Wuhan is crazy when it's from a lab in Wuhan is crazy when it's it's the [ __ ] Wuhan uh center for it's the [ __ ] Wuhan uh center for it's the [ __ ] Wuhan uh center for viology or whatever and it's the Wuhan viology or whatever and it's the Wuhan viology or whatever and it's the Wuhan co vir like what? Hey, hold on." Like, co vir like what? Hey, hold on." Like, co vir like what? Hey, hold on." Like, how are we not pointing this out? And I how are we not pointing this out? And I how are we not pointing this out? And I thought that was brilliant when he was thought that was brilliant when he was thought that was brilliant when he was doing it then. I think it's brilliant doing it then. I think it's brilliant doing it then. I think it's brilliant when he's doing it now. Even though I'm when he's doing it now. Even though I'm when he's doing it now. Even though I'm probably sort of default without a lot probably sort of default without a lot probably sort of default without a lot of exploration. like yeah it's probably of exploration. like yeah it's probably of exploration. like yeah it's probably good to have a relationship with Israel good to have a relationship with Israel good to have a relationship with Israel and especially now with what's going on and especially now with what's going on and especially now with what's going on for the reasons I just enumerated about for the reasons I just enumerated about for the reasons I just enumerated about the pipelines and all that and others the pipelines and all that and others the pipelines and all that and others democracy yada yada but despite that democracy yada yada but despite that democracy yada yada but despite that you've got to have a compelling reason you've got to have a compelling reason you've got to have a compelling reason otherwise people are just not going to otherwise people are just not going to otherwise people are just not going to go for this so uh this is Stuart drawing go for this so uh this is Stuart drawing go for this so uh this is Stuart drawing him into a trap where he's going to let him into a trap where he's going to let him into a trap where he's going to let him trip over his own dick and this is him trip over his own dick and this is him trip over his own dick and this is what I think is very smart like if you what I think is very smart like if you what I think is very smart like if you really have the goods let people walk really have the goods let people walk really have the goods let people walk into their own trap. And this I think is into their own trap. And this I think is into their own trap. And this I think is the smartest thing you can do with the the smartest thing you can do with the the smartest thing you can do with the DSA is you open the door and and DSA is you open the door and and DSA is you open the door and and Republicans are starting to do this now. Republicans are starting to do this now. Republicans are starting to do this now. And they're literally they're getting And they're literally they're getting And they're literally they're getting the DSA to accept um coming on their the DSA to accept um coming on their the DSA to accept um coming on their show, which is a bold move. And then show, which is a bold move. And then show, which is a bold move. And then they just ask him policy questions. they just ask him policy questions. they just ask him policy questions. Should we abolish ICE? Yes. Should we um Should we abolish ICE? Yes. Should we um Should we abolish ICE? Yes. Should we um dismantle the Senate? Yes. And they just dismantle the Senate? Yes. And they just dismantle the Senate? Yes. And they just go down the list. Illegal immigrants. go down the list. Illegal immigrants. go down the list. Illegal immigrants. There's no such thing as illegal There's no such thing as illegal There's no such thing as illegal immigrant. I mean, it's wild. And so you immigrant. I mean, it's wild. And so you immigrant. I mean, it's wild. And so you let them say their own thing. So it's a let them say their own thing. So it's a let them say their own thing. So it's a brilliant trap trap on behalf of John brilliant trap trap on behalf of John brilliant trap trap on behalf of John Stewart to just say, "Okay, Israel, Stewart to just say, "Okay, Israel, Stewart to just say, "Okay, Israel, Israel is a red line. Yes, you can agree Israel is a red line. Yes, you can agree Israel is a red line. Yes, you can agree on 90% but you're still going to draw on 90% but you're still going to draw on 90% but you're still going to draw that red line." Yes. Uh and then watch that red line." Yes. Uh and then watch that red line." Yes. Uh and then watch it unfold. They they uh watch Federman's it unfold. They they uh watch Federman's it unfold. They they uh watch Federman's face. If you can at all look at your face. If you can at all look at your face. If you can at all look at your phone at this point, this would be the phone at this point, this would be the phone at this point, this would be the time. Uh because you can see on time. Uh because you can see on time. Uh because you can see on Federman's face like, "Oh shit." Like he Federman's face like, "Oh shit." Like he Federman's face like, "Oh shit." Like he doesn't want vibes. He actually wants doesn't want vibes. He actually wants doesn't want vibes. He actually wants like argumentation and I'm not ready for like argumentation and I'm not ready for like argumentation and I'm not ready for it. it. it. is the red line. is the red line. is the red line. >> Absolutely. Israel for me, like I I >> Absolutely. Israel for me, like I I >> Absolutely. Israel for me, like I I can't ever turn my back to Israel after can't ever turn my back to Israel after can't ever turn my back to Israel after after where it's at. after where it's at. after where it's at. >> So, and and I mean no disrespect on >> So, and and I mean no disrespect on >> So, and and I mean no disrespect on this, but that is not our country. this, but that is not our country. this, but that is not our country. You're saying that these candidates may You're saying that these candidates may You're saying that these candidates may have great ideas for our economy. They have great ideas for our economy. They have great ideas for our economy. They may want to do the exact same thing you may want to do the exact same thing you may want to do the exact same thing you want to do in terms of getting money out want to do in terms of getting money out want to do in terms of getting money out of politics. They may want to increase of politics. They may want to increase of politics. They may want to increase the social safety net. They may want to the social safety net. They may want to the social safety net. They may want to uh uh change the balance of power from uh uh change the balance of power from uh uh change the balance of power from capital back to labor, but if they don't capital back to labor, but if they don't capital back to labor, but if they don't agree with you on Israel, agree with you on Israel, agree with you on Israel, you don't want them in your party. you don't want them in your party. you don't want them in your party. >> Well, I don't know who you're >> Well, I don't know who you're >> Well, I don't know who you're referencing to specifically. referencing to specifically. referencing to specifically. >> No, I'm I'm I'm referencing what you >> No, I'm I'm I'm referencing what you >> No, I'm I'm I'm referencing what you just said. just said. just said. >> Name one. >> Name one. >> Name one. >> So, in other words, say or AOC or Bernie >> So, in other words, say or AOC or Bernie >> So, in other words, say or AOC or Bernie Sanders, I assume you agree with a lot Sanders, I assume you agree with a lot Sanders, I assume you agree with a lot of what they say economically. of what they say economically. of what they say economically. And what I'm saying is like if you are a And what I'm saying is like if you are a And what I'm saying is like if you are a DSA member, if you are a member of a DSA member, if you are a member of a DSA member, if you are a member of a specific political party, run under your specific political party, run under your specific political party, run under your own banner. own banner. own banner. So again, no argument that the question So again, no argument that the question So again, no argument that the question was Israel is the red line for you. Uh was Israel is the red line for you. Uh was Israel is the red line for you. Uh you might agree with somebody even this you might agree with somebody even this you might agree with somebody even this would have been better as a thought would have been better as a thought would have been better as a thought exercise. So because by naming people, exercise. So because by naming people, exercise. So because by naming people, he now gets to go, well, I'm against he now gets to go, well, I'm against he now gets to go, well, I'm against specifically the DSA. Hold on, that specifically the DSA. Hold on, that specifically the DSA. Hold on, that wasn't the question. The question is wasn't the question. The question is wasn't the question. The question is somebody that you agree with on 80 90% somebody that you agree with on 80 90% somebody that you agree with on 80 90% of the policies but you don't agree on of the policies but you don't agree on of the policies but you don't agree on Israel for you just like get out of my Israel for you just like get out of my Israel for you just like get out of my party and it look it's hard and I I can party and it look it's hard and I I can party and it look it's hard and I I can only imagine how many times I have only imagine how many times I have only imagine how many times I have failed as an interviewer to get somebody failed as an interviewer to get somebody failed as an interviewer to get somebody to stay on task uh because people will to stay on task uh because people will to stay on task uh because people will give you these political answers where give you these political answers where give you these political answers where they will just shuck and jive and by the they will just shuck and jive and by the they will just shuck and jive and by the way shout out to Constantine Kissen who way shout out to Constantine Kissen who way shout out to Constantine Kissen who is unusually good at like whoa whoa whoa is unusually good at like whoa whoa whoa is unusually good at like whoa whoa whoa that's not what I said I'm trying to get that's not what I said I'm trying to get that's not what I said I'm trying to get you to stick to this people will just you to stick to this people will just you to stick to this people will just eventually refuse to answer but at least eventually refuse to answer but at least eventually refuse to answer but at least you to see that refusal. you to see that refusal. you to see that refusal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But this is Federman uh as a >> But this is Federman uh as a >> But this is Federman uh as a representative of the the call it the representative of the the call it the representative of the the call it the establishment wing of the Democrat party establishment wing of the Democrat party establishment wing of the Democrat party who is unable to say why he's so gung-ho who is unable to say why he's so gung-ho who is unable to say why he's so gung-ho for Israel. Now, here's where this is for Israel. Now, here's where this is for Israel. Now, here's where this is such a tangent, but I think it's such a tangent, but I think it's such a tangent, but I think it's valuable. Drew will pull us all back if valuable. Drew will pull us all back if valuable. Drew will pull us all back if if this isn't uh landing for people. But if this isn't uh landing for people. But if this isn't uh landing for people. But I I did a bunch of research on Okay, I I did a bunch of research on Okay, I I did a bunch of research on Okay, wait a second. How do these politicians wait a second. How do these politicians wait a second. How do these politicians get into the position that they are get into the position that they are get into the position that they are being so pro- Israel when um Israel being so pro- Israel when um Israel being so pro- Israel when um Israel actually isn't from a dollars and cents actually isn't from a dollars and cents actually isn't from a dollars and cents standpoint, they're not that big of a standpoint, they're not that big of a standpoint, they're not that big of a donor. There are much bigger donors like donor. There are much bigger donors like donor. There are much bigger donors like big pharma. And so um the reality is the big pharma. And so um the reality is the big pharma. And so um the reality is the way that they do this is utterly way that they do this is utterly way that they do this is utterly brilliant. Everybody should use this. brilliant. Everybody should use this. brilliant. Everybody should use this. This is one of those things when you see This is one of those things when you see This is one of those things when you see a group, even if you hate them, like I'm a group, even if you hate them, like I'm a group, even if you hate them, like I'm watching the DSA, how have you guys done watching the DSA, how have you guys done watching the DSA, how have you guys done this? The long march of the institution this? The long march of the institution this? The long march of the institution was absolutely brilliant having these was absolutely brilliant having these was absolutely brilliant having these really long ranged um things uh in terms really long ranged um things uh in terms really long ranged um things uh in terms of their strategies thinking in decades. of their strategies thinking in decades. of their strategies thinking in decades. It's just so brilliant. Same thing with It's just so brilliant. Same thing with It's just so brilliant. Same thing with Islam and they've got brilliant Islam and they've got brilliant Islam and they've got brilliant strategies. So it's like you never want strategies. So it's like you never want strategies. So it's like you never want to throw the baby out with the to throw the baby out with the to throw the baby out with the bathwater. You don't agree with where bathwater. You don't agree with where bathwater. You don't agree with where they're trying to go but man if they've they're trying to go but man if they've they're trying to go but man if they've got a great mechanism for getting there. got a great mechanism for getting there. got a great mechanism for getting there. So what what APAC does is they go find a So what what APAC does is they go find a So what what APAC does is they go find a candidate who's very young who has candidate who's very young who has candidate who's very young who has nobody giving them money and they'll nobody giving them money and they'll nobody giving them money and they'll support them when they're really early support them when they're really early support them when they're really early in their career where a couple thousand in their career where a couple thousand in their career where a couple thousand bucks might go a really long way. And bucks might go a really long way. And bucks might go a really long way. And what they're doing is they want to see what they're doing is they want to see what they're doing is they want to see who's able to actually get energy going who's able to actually get energy going who's able to actually get energy going without a ton of money behind them and without a ton of money behind them and without a ton of money behind them and who just naturally agrees with their who just naturally agrees with their who just naturally agrees with their stance. That's far better than trying to stance. That's far better than trying to stance. That's far better than trying to ply them with money. And so when you put ply them with money. And so when you put ply them with money. And so when you put somebody in a situation where it's like somebody in a situation where it's like somebody in a situation where it's like I already believe this and they've come I already believe this and they've come I already believe this and they've come to my aid now I just feel better about to my aid now I just feel better about to my aid now I just feel better about them. I actually feel a deeper them. I actually feel a deeper them. I actually feel a deeper connection. The people who are doing connection. The people who are doing connection. The people who are doing something rad for me are Apac lobby are something rad for me are Apac lobby are something rad for me are Apac lobby are the DSA whatever. They're the people the DSA whatever. They're the people the DSA whatever. They're the people that I naturally agreed with anyway. that I naturally agreed with anyway. that I naturally agreed with anyway. They found me when I was obscure. They They found me when I was obscure. They They found me when I was obscure. They took care of me. That sense of took care of me. That sense of took care of me. That sense of reciprocity is so strong. And so it's reciprocity is so strong. And so it's reciprocity is so strong. And so it's not like these politicians are quote not like these politicians are quote not like these politicians are quote unquote being corrupted by money. It's unquote being corrupted by money. It's unquote being corrupted by money. It's that somebody was kind to them when they that somebody was kind to them when they that somebody was kind to them when they were young, somebody that they felt a were young, somebody that they felt a were young, somebody that they felt a kinship with, they got support from. kinship with, they got support from. kinship with, they got support from. These are all very natural human These are all very natural human These are all very natural human inclinations. And so over time now, the inclinations. And so over time now, the inclinations. And so over time now, the people that you're hanging out with people that you're hanging out with people that you're hanging out with because they're taking care of you when because they're taking care of you when because they're taking care of you when nobody else even knew you existed. Uh nobody else even knew you existed. Uh nobody else even knew you existed. Uh they are those people. You're in that they are those people. You're in that they are those people. You're in that group. You're hearing their arguments. group. You're hearing their arguments. group. You're hearing their arguments. You have a natural tendency to want to You have a natural tendency to want to You have a natural tendency to want to fit in with the group. That's Apex fit in with the group. That's Apex fit in with the group. That's Apex brilliance. Apex brilliance isn't like brilliance. Apex brilliance isn't like brilliance. Apex brilliance isn't like throwing money everywhere. Apex throwing money everywhere. Apex throwing money everywhere. Apex brilliance is going to that really early brilliance is going to that really early brilliance is going to that really early stage and nurturing them. It's the same stage and nurturing them. It's the same stage and nurturing them. It's the same thing that George Soros did. He realized thing that George Soros did. He realized thing that George Soros did. He realized trying to throw national dollars at like trying to throw national dollars at like trying to throw national dollars at like the presidentoo, the presidentoo, the presidentoo, your dollar does not go nearly as far as your dollar does not go nearly as far as your dollar does not go nearly as far as if you go to a local DA race, especially if you go to a local DA race, especially if you go to a local DA race, especially back when nobody was paying attention to back when nobody was paying attention to back when nobody was paying attention to this stuff. And so he would go in there this stuff. And so he would go in there this stuff. And so he would go in there and a little bit of money would go a and a little bit of money would go a and a little bit of money would go a very long way. And he would just start very long way. And he would just start very long way. And he would just start getting these activist DAs all over the getting these activist DAs all over the getting these activist DAs all over the place, get activist judges. And now all place, get activist judges. And now all place, get activist judges. And now all of a sudden it's like at the grassroots of a sudden it's like at the grassroots of a sudden it's like at the grassroots level he was able to get people that level he was able to get people that level he was able to get people that shared his beliefs. He doesn't have to shared his beliefs. He doesn't have to shared his beliefs. He doesn't have to like twist their arm for the reasons like twist their arm for the reasons like twist their arm for the reasons that I just went through. You find and that I just went through. You find and that I just went through. You find and support the people that share your support the people that share your support the people that share your beliefs. Now the problem is that it beliefs. Now the problem is that it beliefs. Now the problem is that it creates a weakness like this with John creates a weakness like this with John creates a weakness like this with John Federman where for so long he's just Federman where for so long he's just Federman where for so long he's just been surrounded by those people who been surrounded by those people who been surrounded by those people who think like he thinks and now he can think like he thinks and now he can think like he thinks and now he can survive off of vibes. I'm telling you survive off of vibes. I'm telling you survive off of vibes. I'm telling you guys that what you want. So take AI. One guys that what you want. So take AI. One guys that what you want. So take AI. One of the things I I just I still cannot of the things I I just I still cannot of the things I I just I still cannot believe this is debated, but people are believe this is debated, but people are believe this is debated, but people are so anti- AI. AI is a brilliant um so anti- AI. AI is a brilliant um so anti- AI. AI is a brilliant um thought partner, but it will do what you thought partner, but it will do what you thought partner, but it will do what you ask it to do. So if you train it that ask it to do. So if you train it that ask it to do. So if you train it that you just want to be agreed with, well you just want to be agreed with, well you just want to be agreed with, well then it's going to agree with you. If then it's going to agree with you. If then it's going to agree with you. If you train it, no, no, no. I want the you train it, no, no, no. I want the you train it, no, no, no. I want the best arguments that defeat what I'm best arguments that defeat what I'm best arguments that defeat what I'm saying. I want to know what the sharpest saying. I want to know what the sharpest saying. I want to know what the sharpest minds say, that think I'm an idiot, that minds say, that think I'm an idiot, that minds say, that think I'm an idiot, that think my stance is terrible. And so now think my stance is terrible. And so now think my stance is terrible. And so now you're going to see what the other side you're going to see what the other side you're going to see what the other side really thinks and you can find out one really thinks and you can find out one really thinks and you can find out one if you're wrong which you should want to if you're wrong which you should want to if you're wrong which you should want to know so that you can adjust your beliefs know so that you can adjust your beliefs know so that you can adjust your beliefs and be right you'll be far more and be right you'll be far more and be right you'll be far more effective. At least though you're going effective. At least though you're going effective. At least though you're going to know what the other side thinks. And to know what the other side thinks. And to know what the other side thinks. And so this is not at least in that so this is not at least in that so this is not at least in that exchange. That is not what we saw from exchange. That is not what we saw from exchange. That is not what we saw from Federman. What we're seeing from Federman. What we're seeing from Federman. What we're seeing from Federman in that exchange is uh you're Federman in that exchange is uh you're Federman in that exchange is uh you're expecting vibes and you don't get vibes. expecting vibes and you don't get vibes. expecting vibes and you don't get vibes. And yeah, the boys and girls, dear And yeah, the boys and girls, dear And yeah, the boys and girls, dear Democrat party, if you want to do well Democrat party, if you want to do well Democrat party, if you want to do well against the DSA, you are going to have against the DSA, you are going to have against the DSA, you are going to have to have an answer for Israel. And if you to have an answer for Israel. And if you to have an answer for Israel. And if you cannot, if you're supported by them, if cannot, if you're supported by them, if cannot, if you're supported by them, if you can't give a compelling argument for you can't give a compelling argument for you can't give a compelling argument for why it actually makes sense to me as an why it actually makes sense to me as an why it actually makes sense to me as an American in my daily life struggling to American in my daily life struggling to American in my daily life struggling to make ends meet, then you're going to make ends meet, then you're going to make ends meet, then you're going to push them away from you because it push them away from you because it push them away from you because it really it will read as though you have really it will read as though you have really it will read as though you have been captured by money. So, and I won't been captured by money. So, and I won't been captured by money. So, and I won't even take that off the table. I'm sure even take that off the table. I'm sure even take that off the table. I'm sure some people really are captured by some people really are captured by some people really are captured by money, but you don't have to go all the money, but you don't have to go all the money, but you don't have to go all the way there for this to be a terrible way there for this to be a terrible way there for this to be a terrible strategy. Figure out what the other side strategy. Figure out what the other side strategy. Figure out what the other side says about you. Come up with a very says about you. Come up with a very says about you. Come up with a very compelling argument that the average compelling argument that the average compelling argument that the average person can understand and will feel person can understand and will feel person can understand and will feel intuitively is right. And if you don't intuitively is right. And if you don't intuitively is right. And if you don't have that, get the [ __ ] away from that have that, get the [ __ ] away from that have that, get the [ __ ] away from that messaging. messaging. messaging. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. >> I think we need to dive into the support >> I think we need to dive into the support >> I think we need to dive into the support of El and how did he actually win some of El and how did he actually win some of El and how did he actually win some of these counties. CNN did a breakdown of these counties. CNN did a breakdown of these counties. CNN did a breakdown of where his support came from. of where his support came from. of where his support came from. counties. Elsa won in the primary zero counties. Elsa won in the primary zero counties. Elsa won in the primary zero of 15. Zero of 15 with the lowest share of 15. Zero of 15 with the lowest share of 15. Zero of 15 with the lowest share of college degrees. Ergo, he did not win of college degrees. Ergo, he did not win of college degrees. Ergo, he did not win in those workingclass areas. Where he in those workingclass areas. Where he in those workingclass areas. Where he did win, he won 13 of the 15 counties did win, he won 13 of the 15 counties did win, he won 13 of the 15 counties with the highest share of college with the highest share of college with the highest share of college degrees. So, you're thinking about degrees. So, you're thinking about degrees. So, you're thinking about Democrats having real trouble amongst Democrats having real trouble amongst Democrats having real trouble amongst the working class. Elsad support came the working class. Elsad support came the working class. Elsad support came dramatically from those areas. In fact, dramatically from those areas. In fact, dramatically from those areas. In fact, not where there is working-class folks, not where there is working-class folks, not where there is working-class folks, but where there are highly educated but where there are highly educated but where there are highly educated folks, more from elite circles than from folks, more from elite circles than from folks, more from elite circles than from the working-class circles. And I think the working-class circles. And I think the working-class circles. And I think there's real worries among Democrats. there's real worries among Democrats. there's real worries among Democrats. Well, will that transfer over to the Well, will that transfer over to the Well, will that transfer over to the general election and else continue to general election and else continue to general election and else continue to have the problems that prior Democrats have the problems that prior Democrats have the problems that prior Democrats have had with the working class? have had with the working class? have had with the working class? >> It's so wild to me that people actually >> It's so wild to me that people actually >> It's so wild to me that people actually believe the [ __ ] rhetoric that the believe the [ __ ] rhetoric that the believe the [ __ ] rhetoric that the DSA uh wants to help workers. The DSA DSA uh wants to help workers. The DSA DSA uh wants to help workers. The DSA hates workers. I promise you the hates workers. I promise you the hates workers. I promise you the socialist communist movement is socialist communist movement is socialist communist movement is predatory of workers. If anything, predatory of workers. If anything, predatory of workers. If anything, remember the the whole original movement remember the the whole original movement remember the the whole original movement of communism, which by the way, as a of communism, which by the way, as a of communism, which by the way, as a reminder that Marx never ever ever ever reminder that Marx never ever ever ever reminder that Marx never ever ever ever ever ever talked about socialism. The ever ever talked about socialism. The ever ever talked about socialism. The word was invented later by Lenin to word was invented later by Lenin to word was invented later by Lenin to describe the intermediary step between describe the intermediary step between describe the intermediary step between the like previous economy. It's actually the like previous economy. It's actually the like previous economy. It's actually very different in Russia, but anyway, very different in Russia, but anyway, very different in Russia, but anyway, the previous economy and where we were the previous economy and where we were the previous economy and where we were going to get to communism. He's like, I going to get to communism. He's like, I going to get to communism. He's like, I need a word for this. So, he came up need a word for this. So, he came up need a word for this. So, he came up with, again, one of the worst murderers with, again, one of the worst murderers with, again, one of the worst murderers in history, came up with this idea of, in history, came up with this idea of, in history, came up with this idea of, okay, we're going to call this okay, we're going to call this okay, we're going to call this socialism, but it was always meant to socialism, but it was always meant to socialism, but it was always meant to get to communism. Now, I don't know if get to communism. Now, I don't know if get to communism. Now, I don't know if it's apocryphal, but it's often it's apocryphal, but it's often it's apocryphal, but it's often attributed to Lenin that what's the attributed to Lenin that what's the attributed to Lenin that what's the purpose of socialism? It's to lead to purpose of socialism? It's to lead to purpose of socialism? It's to lead to communism. Now, whether he said that or communism. Now, whether he said that or communism. Now, whether he said that or not is irrelevant. That actually is not is irrelevant. That actually is not is irrelevant. That actually is mechanistically mechanistically mechanistically the purpose. They were literally trying the purpose. They were literally trying the purpose. They were literally trying to come up with a word to describe a to come up with a word to describe a to come up with a word to describe a mile marker on the way to communism. mile marker on the way to communism. mile marker on the way to communism. Okay, that's that's just what it is. Okay, that's that's just what it is. Okay, that's that's just what it is. That's not people trying to propagandize That's not people trying to propagandize That's not people trying to propagandize you. That's just what it is in terms of you. That's just what it is in terms of you. That's just what it is in terms of how that came into existence, where this how that came into existence, where this how that came into existence, where this all goes. Okay, now they were expecting, all goes. Okay, now they were expecting, all goes. Okay, now they were expecting, Markx very specifically was expecting Markx very specifically was expecting Markx very specifically was expecting there to be the rising up of the working there to be the rising up of the working there to be the rising up of the working class and it never happened. And that's class and it never happened. And that's class and it never happened. And that's why this largely became a diffuse thing why this largely became a diffuse thing why this largely became a diffuse thing that the west never really uh had to that the west never really uh had to that the west never really uh had to contend with in any super meaningful way contend with in any super meaningful way contend with in any super meaningful way because the workers don't end up because the workers don't end up because the workers don't end up uniting. So the question becomes what is uniting. So the question becomes what is uniting. So the question becomes what is it? What does and that is the overp it? What does and that is the overp it? What does and that is the overp production of elites. The overp production of elites. The overp production of elites. The overp production of elites. You send kids to production of elites. You send kids to production of elites. You send kids to college. They are told they're the college. They are told they're the college. They are told they're the future. They're important. They're going future. They're important. They're going future. They're important. They're going to get out there. They're going to run to get out there. They're going to run to get out there. They're going to run the world. And they get out and they the world. And they get out and they the world. And they get out and they realize that a basket weaving degree realize that a basket weaving degree realize that a basket weaving degree does not get you where you want to go. A does not get you where you want to go. A does not get you where you want to go. A gender studies degree leaves you gender studies degree leaves you gender studies degree leaves you essentially working for minimum wage. essentially working for minimum wage. essentially working for minimum wage. And so now all of a sudden it's like And so now all of a sudden it's like And so now all of a sudden it's like wait all those things that I was told wait all those things that I was told wait all those things that I was told that things were going to be wonderful that things were going to be wonderful that things were going to be wonderful that I was part of the ruling class that that I was part of the ruling class that that I was part of the ruling class that I'm now in this elite group of people I'm now in this elite group of people I'm now in this elite group of people and trust me they are it's drumed into and trust me they are it's drumed into and trust me they are it's drumed into their heads if they go to an elite their heads if they go to an elite their heads if they go to an elite university that they're one of the university that they're one of the university that they're one of the elites and that they're the smart ones elites and that they're the smart ones elites and that they're the smart ones and they're going to take over the world and they're going to take over the world and they're going to take over the world and then they get out and they're not and then they get out and they're not and then they get out and they're not able to get the kind of pay that they're able to get the kind of pay that they're able to get the kind of pay that they're expecting. This is true throughout expecting. This is true throughout expecting. This is true throughout history. This is exactly what happened history. This is exactly what happened history. This is exactly what happened in the French Revolution. It was an in the French Revolution. It was an in the French Revolution. It was an overp production of elites that led to overp production of elites that led to overp production of elites that led to that revolution which was bloody. They that revolution which was bloody. They that revolution which was bloody. They turned on themselves. They end up going turned on themselves. They end up going turned on themselves. They end up going and killing millions of people across and killing millions of people across and killing millions of people across Europe. So if we have some sort of Europe. So if we have some sort of Europe. So if we have some sort of glowing positive thing, that is not what glowing positive thing, that is not what glowing positive thing, that is not what happened. They become so bloodthirsty, happened. They become so bloodthirsty, happened. They become so bloodthirsty, these revolutionaries, that you had the these revolutionaries, that you had the these revolutionaries, that you had the rise of Napoleon who came in and saw it rise of Napoleon who came in and saw it rise of Napoleon who came in and saw it for what it was and was like, "Oh, I get for what it was and was like, "Oh, I get for what it was and was like, "Oh, I get what these guys are. They just want to what these guys are. They just want to what these guys are. They just want to kill. Rad. I'm going to focus their kill. Rad. I'm going to focus their kill. Rad. I'm going to focus their attention now outward and we're going to attention now outward and we're going to attention now outward and we're going to go on an imperialistic conquest and go on an imperialistic conquest and go on an imperialistic conquest and start stealing from everybody else." start stealing from everybody else." start stealing from everybody else." This [ __ ] is so wild. History has This [ __ ] is so wild. History has This [ __ ] is so wild. History has already answered this question. But already answered this question. But already answered this question. But because people don't map this from cause because people don't map this from cause because people don't map this from cause and effect, what's the psychology? What and effect, what's the psychology? What and effect, what's the psychology? What are they trying to do? Why didn't the are they trying to do? Why didn't the are they trying to do? Why didn't the workers rise up, etc., etc., then they workers rise up, etc., etc., then they workers rise up, etc., etc., then they are left blindsided to what's actually are left blindsided to what's actually are left blindsided to what's actually happening, which we see in Elsiad's happening, which we see in Elsiad's happening, which we see in Elsiad's numbers, which is that the working class numbers, which is that the working class numbers, which is that the working class is like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking is like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking is like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking about, man? I'm trying to raise a about, man? I'm trying to raise a about, man? I'm trying to raise a family. I'm trying to put food on the family. I'm trying to put food on the family. I'm trying to put food on the table. I'm trying to feel good about table. I'm trying to feel good about table. I'm trying to feel good about myself by building something, by myself by building something, by myself by building something, by creating, by actually getting in and creating, by actually getting in and creating, by actually getting in and making something that matters. And those making something that matters. And those making something that matters. And those people are not resonating with the DSA people are not resonating with the DSA people are not resonating with the DSA at all. Thank God. And so once you at all. Thank God. And so once you at all. Thank God. And so once you understand that the working class understand that the working class understand that the working class becomes a propagandistic tool of becomes a propagandistic tool of becomes a propagandistic tool of socialism, communism, whichever word you socialism, communism, whichever word you socialism, communism, whichever word you want to use, then you begin to want to use, then you begin to want to use, then you begin to understand what's actually coming, how understand what's actually coming, how understand what's actually coming, how this all plays out. So seeing it in his this all plays out. So seeing it in his this all plays out. So seeing it in his numbers is not at all surprising. This numbers is not at all surprising. This numbers is not at all surprising. This is actually what history predicts. is actually what history predicts. is actually what history predicts. >> Um I I think it's interesting because >> Um I I think it's interesting because >> Um I I think it's interesting because when we hear overproduced elites, a lot when we hear overproduced elites, a lot when we hear overproduced elites, a lot of people automatically go to elites are of people automatically go to elites are of people automatically go to elites are the Epstein class. Elites aren't the the Epstein class. Elites aren't the the Epstein class. Elites aren't the broke college student, but there is broke college student, but there is broke college student, but there is something to those people who think that something to those people who think that something to those people who think that they were wronged for doing everything they were wronged for doing everything they were wronged for doing everything that they were supposed to do. You told that they were supposed to do. You told that they were supposed to do. You told me to go to school. You told me to me to go to school. You told me to me to go to school. You told me to graduate. You told me to go and get this graduate. You told me to go and get this graduate. You told me to go and get this degree. Now I have this degree and I'm degree. Now I have this degree and I'm degree. Now I have this degree and I'm working at H&M. I'm folding clothes. working at H&M. I'm folding clothes. working at H&M. I'm folding clothes. should be a leader somewhere. I should should be a leader somewhere. I should should be a leader somewhere. I should be doing something. And then now that be doing something. And then now that be doing something. And then now that frustration is now leading to the swing frustration is now leading to the swing frustration is now leading to the swing to the DSA and a lot of these guys are to the DSA and a lot of these guys are to the DSA and a lot of these guys are cleaning up in those areas. cleaning up in those areas. cleaning up in those areas. >> Yes. And when you talk about the working >> Yes. And when you talk about the working >> Yes. And when you talk about the working class, a lot of people in the working class, a lot of people in the working class, a lot of people in the working class, think about how they were raised, class, think about how they were raised, class, think about how they were raised, right? So this is um the way that I grew right? So this is um the way that I grew right? So this is um the way that I grew up, the easiest way to explain it is up, the easiest way to explain it is up, the easiest way to explain it is that uh I didn't have cows, but my that uh I didn't have cows, but my that uh I didn't have cows, but my neighbors did. So I come from a neighbors did. So I come from a neighbors did. So I come from a working-class neighborhood. My dad had a working-class neighborhood. My dad had a working-class neighborhood. My dad had a white collar job for most of the time white collar job for most of the time white collar job for most of the time that I was a kid, but he worked as a that I was a kid, but he worked as a that I was a kid, but he worked as a mechanic for a while. So, it's like I'm mechanic for a while. So, it's like I'm mechanic for a while. So, it's like I'm sort of right on that bubble. So, in sort of right on that bubble. So, in sort of right on that bubble. So, in terms of the kids that I grew up with, a terms of the kids that I grew up with, a terms of the kids that I grew up with, a lot of them were working class. And lot of them were working class. And lot of them were working class. And these are kids with a tremendous amount these are kids with a tremendous amount these are kids with a tremendous amount of pride. These are people that want to of pride. These are people that want to of pride. These are people that want to build things. These are people that want build things. These are people that want build things. These are people that want to be like literally some of my best to be like literally some of my best to be like literally some of my best friends in the universe, pipe fitters, friends in the universe, pipe fitters, friends in the universe, pipe fitters, people that are like, I want to be a people that are like, I want to be a people that are like, I want to be a great welder. I want to take care of my great welder. I want to take care of my great welder. I want to take care of my family. I want to get in the union. I family. I want to get in the union. I family. I want to get in the union. I want to be a part of this. I want to go want to be a part of this. I want to go want to be a part of this. I want to go build these big things. And it's um it build these big things. And it's um it build these big things. And it's um it is such a profound part of the American is such a profound part of the American is such a profound part of the American story of people who actually make things story of people who actually make things story of people who actually make things with their hands. But these are not like with their hands. But these are not like with their hands. But these are not like a feat intellectuals. These are like a feat intellectuals. These are like a feat intellectuals. These are like they really got some [ __ ] calluses on they really got some [ __ ] calluses on they really got some [ __ ] calluses on their hands. They are um incredibly their hands. They are um incredibly their hands. They are um incredibly familyoriented, familyoriented, familyoriented, a strong sense of community. Like it it a strong sense of community. Like it it a strong sense of community. Like it it is such a different thing than somebody is such a different thing than somebody is such a different thing than somebody who goes off to college is told you're who goes off to college is told you're who goes off to college is told you're going to be one of the people that's going to be one of the people that's going to be one of the people that's going to be the master of the universe. going to be the master of the universe. going to be the master of the universe. And for a working-class kid who's And for a working-class kid who's And for a working-class kid who's thinking, okay, I'm going to grow up. thinking, okay, I'm going to grow up. thinking, okay, I'm going to grow up. I'm going to be a pipe fitter. I'm going I'm going to be a pipe fitter. I'm going I'm going to be a pipe fitter. I'm going to be able to take care of my family. to be able to take care of my family. to be able to take care of my family. Like this is going to be dope. And then Like this is going to be dope. And then Like this is going to be dope. And then the their life actually becomes that and the their life actually becomes that and the their life actually becomes that and it becomes a reflection of that. Which it becomes a reflection of that. Which it becomes a reflection of that. Which is why manufacturing is so important and is why manufacturing is so important and is why manufacturing is so important and why we did these people so dirty by why we did these people so dirty by why we did these people so dirty by sending this all around the world and sending this all around the world and sending this all around the world and making that hard. But that path plays making that hard. But that path plays making that hard. But that path plays out the way that they largely expected out the way that they largely expected out the way that they largely expected it to play out. They actually become a it to play out. They actually become a it to play out. They actually become a pipe fitter. They go and do those pipe fitter. They go and do those pipe fitter. They go and do those things. So it's like I saw my parents do things. So it's like I saw my parents do things. So it's like I saw my parents do it. I'm following in those steps. When it. I'm following in those steps. When it. I'm following in those steps. When you have the over production of elites, you have the over production of elites, you have the over production of elites, there's always going to be production of there's always going to be production of there's always going to be production of the elites. But when you get into this the elites. But when you get into this the elites. But when you get into this kind of period now where every parent kind of period now where every parent kind of period now where every parent thinks they need to send every one of thinks they need to send every one of thinks they need to send every one of their kids to school. It doesn't matter their kids to school. It doesn't matter their kids to school. It doesn't matter what you study. You just need to get a what you study. You just need to get a what you study. You just need to get a degree from an elite university and degree from an elite university and degree from an elite university and everything is going to take care of everything is going to take care of everything is going to take care of itself. Debt be damned. itself. Debt be damned. itself. Debt be damned. when they come out it things do not go when they come out it things do not go when they come out it things do not go as expected and so that's where all of as expected and so that's where all of as expected and so that's where all of this starts to be madness. So yeah, we this starts to be madness. So yeah, we this starts to be madness. So yeah, we need to really be careful to map what's need to really be careful to map what's need to really be careful to map what's actually happening otherwise the ability actually happening otherwise the ability actually happening otherwise the ability to predict where we're going from here to predict where we're going from here to predict where we're going from here will be impossible. will be impossible. will be impossible. >> I might have missed it but I'm curious >> I might have missed it but I'm curious >> I might have missed it but I'm curious when you say over production of elites when you say over production of elites when you say over production of elites what specifically are we defining as the what specifically are we defining as the what specifically are we defining as the elites because you're mentioning like elites because you're mentioning like elites because you're mentioning like elite colleges. Are we talking anyone elite colleges. Are we talking anyone elite colleges. Are we talking anyone who gets a because I might have totally who gets a because I might have totally who gets a because I might have totally missed what you're saying. I was reading missed what you're saying. I was reading missed what you're saying. I was reading chat, but are we talking anyone who gets chat, but are we talking anyone who gets chat, but are we talking anyone who gets a degree or specifically like Harvard a degree or specifically like Harvard a degree or specifically like Harvard grads, MIT? grads, MIT? grads, MIT? >> The the smartest way to round it is >> The the smartest way to round it is >> The the smartest way to round it is anybody who gets a a college degree. anybody who gets a a college degree. anybody who gets a a college degree. Yeah. Fouryear college degree. It Yeah. Fouryear college degree. It Yeah. Fouryear college degree. It there's never going to be like a line there's never going to be like a line there's never going to be like a line where it's like, well, I went to where it's like, well, I went to where it's like, well, I went to community college, so I don't feel this community college, so I don't feel this community college, so I don't feel this way. Well, I went to Harvard, so I do, way. Well, I went to Harvard, so I do, way. Well, I went to Harvard, so I do, but I went to USC and I don't. It's not but I went to USC and I don't. It's not but I went to USC and I don't. It's not going to be like that. It's going to be going to be like that. It's going to be going to be like that. It's going to be the person who went to school with the the person who went to school with the the person who went to school with the expectation that they were quote unquote expectation that they were quote unquote expectation that they were quote unquote doing everything right. doing everything right. doing everything right. >> And that's one of those things where we >> And that's one of those things where we >> And that's one of those things where we just say it all the time, but what do we just say it all the time, but what do we just say it all the time, but what do we mean everything right? What we mean is mean everything right? What we mean is mean everything right? What we mean is your parents are telling you, as my your parents are telling you, as my your parents are telling you, as my parents told me, if you want to be parents told me, if you want to be parents told me, if you want to be somebody, you got to go to college, get somebody, you got to go to college, get somebody, you got to go to college, get that degree. I My dad used to just beat that degree. I My dad used to just beat that degree. I My dad used to just beat the drum that going to college is like the drum that going to college is like the drum that going to college is like that's what the good and the smart that's what the good and the smart that's what the good and the smart people do. And he was so proud of the people do. And he was so proud of the people do. And he was so proud of the fact that he got a college degree. And fact that he got a college degree. And fact that he got a college degree. And so he was pounding that into the minds so he was pounding that into the minds so he was pounding that into the minds of my sister and I that there was like of my sister and I that there was like of my sister and I that there was like some magical thing that happened when some magical thing that happened when some magical thing that happened when you went to college. And thankfully, we you went to college. And thankfully, we you went to college. And thankfully, we were close enough to sort of the blue were close enough to sort of the blue were close enough to sort of the blue collar of it all that I never had a collar of it all that I never had a collar of it all that I never had a sense of like, oh, I'm going to go on to sense of like, oh, I'm going to go on to sense of like, oh, I'm going to go on to be a master of the universe. For me, it be a master of the universe. For me, it be a master of the universe. For me, it was just I want to make sure that I get was just I want to make sure that I get was just I want to make sure that I get an education so that cuz my dad was very an education so that cuz my dad was very an education so that cuz my dad was very afraid, understandably so, that I was afraid, understandably so, that I was afraid, understandably so, that I was going to um sort of deadend in my life. going to um sort of deadend in my life. going to um sort of deadend in my life. That was like everybody's fear for me That was like everybody's fear for me That was like everybody's fear for me when I was young. And so, he was like, when I was young. And so, he was like, when I was young. And so, he was like, "You need to get an education. You're "You need to get an education. You're "You need to get an education. You're always going to be able to fall back on always going to be able to fall back on always going to be able to fall back on that." And it's that idea that the the that." And it's that idea that the the that." And it's that idea that the the education is sort of this um magical education is sort of this um magical education is sort of this um magical cloak that you can wear through life cloak that you can wear through life cloak that you can wear through life that that somehow takes care of you. The that that somehow takes care of you. The that that somehow takes care of you. The reality is what they're groping for is reality is what they're groping for is reality is what they're groping for is in a time where what companies actually in a time where what companies actually in a time where what companies actually need are these hypereducated people that need are these hypereducated people that need are these hypereducated people that are going to come out and they're are going to come out and they're are going to come out and they're immediately going to help those immediately going to help those immediately going to help those companies grow. So if you look at you companies grow. So if you look at you companies grow. So if you look at you can take a Disney, you can take a Cisco, can take a Disney, you can take a Cisco, can take a Disney, you can take a Cisco, doesn't matter. They are asking doesn't matter. They are asking doesn't matter. They are asking themselves. So Disney is saying, "I need themselves. So Disney is saying, "I need themselves. So Disney is saying, "I need to be near an art school. If there is no to be near an art school. If there is no to be near an art school. If there is no art school, I'm going to build one art school, I'm going to build one art school, I'm going to build one because I need a pipeline of talent because I need a pipeline of talent because I need a pipeline of talent where people are going to be trained. where people are going to be trained. where people are going to be trained. They're going to be good at what they They're going to be good at what they They're going to be good at what they do, and then they plug into my do, and then they plug into my do, and then they plug into my corporation." Obviously, Silicon Valley, corporation." Obviously, Silicon Valley, corporation." Obviously, Silicon Valley, they care desperately about Stanford, they care desperately about Stanford, they care desperately about Stanford, uh, Caltech, like they need kids to go uh, Caltech, like they need kids to go uh, Caltech, like they need kids to go through this pipeline, whether it's MIT, through this pipeline, whether it's MIT, through this pipeline, whether it's MIT, Harvard, whatever, they need people Harvard, whatever, they need people Harvard, whatever, they need people going through this pipeline so that they going through this pipeline so that they going through this pipeline so that they know they're going to come out and be know they're going to come out and be know they're going to come out and be good at the thing that they need them to good at the thing that they need them to good at the thing that they need them to do. The problem is when your economy is do. The problem is when your economy is do. The problem is when your economy is not growing enough, but you've told not growing enough, but you've told not growing enough, but you've told literally generations of people like, literally generations of people like, literally generations of people like, "Go get educated with this sort of vague "Go get educated with this sort of vague "Go get educated with this sort of vague promise that nobody actually sits down promise that nobody actually sits down promise that nobody actually sits down to articulate that you're going to get a to articulate that you're going to get a to articulate that you're going to get a job doing a thing that's going to help job doing a thing that's going to help job doing a thing that's going to help the companies grow, which is going to the companies grow, which is going to the companies grow, which is going to push GDP forward." What happens is you push GDP forward." What happens is you push GDP forward." What happens is you get a saturation point, then you get a saturation point, then you get a saturation point, then you oversaturate and you get to the point oversaturate and you get to the point oversaturate and you get to the point where there aren't going to be that many where there aren't going to be that many where there aren't going to be that many jobs, especially not when the our jobs, especially not when the our jobs, especially not when the our economy is growing like 1.6%. 6%. It's economy is growing like 1.6%. 6%. It's economy is growing like 1.6%. 6%. It's ridiculous. So, the economy is not ridiculous. So, the economy is not ridiculous. So, the economy is not growing. You've been shoveling people growing. You've been shoveling people growing. You've been shoveling people into these things. And the biggest into these things. And the biggest into these things. And the biggest bastardization of this whole thing, the bastardization of this whole thing, the bastardization of this whole thing, the government is guaranteeing the loans. government is guaranteeing the loans. government is guaranteeing the loans. So, now it doesn't matter what you So, now it doesn't matter what you So, now it doesn't matter what you study. And so, you just think go to study. And so, you just think go to study. And so, you just think go to college, right? Like, I went to college college, right? Like, I went to college college, right? Like, I went to college and got a film degree. Bro, that's not and got a film degree. Bro, that's not and got a film degree. Bro, that's not exactly a good thing to fall back on. exactly a good thing to fall back on. exactly a good thing to fall back on. Now, have I found ways to make it serve Now, have I found ways to make it serve Now, have I found ways to make it serve me? Yes, I have. Yada yada. But I have me? Yes, I have. Yada yada. But I have me? Yes, I have. Yada yada. But I have not spent my actual career in film not spent my actual career in film not spent my actual career in film making. So, I put myself in a super making. So, I put myself in a super making. So, I put myself in a super dangerous situation where I had tens of dangerous situation where I had tens of dangerous situation where I had tens of thousands of dollars of debt coming out. thousands of dollars of debt coming out. thousands of dollars of debt coming out. And I guess for a while I taught film. And I guess for a while I taught film. And I guess for a while I taught film. So, you could say that was me making use So, you could say that was me making use So, you could say that was me making use of my film degree. But since then, my of my film degree. But since then, my of my film degree. But since then, my life has not been using my degree. I had life has not been using my degree. I had life has not been using my degree. I had to find entrepreneurship, find my way to find entrepreneurship, find my way to find entrepreneurship, find my way through that, spend years clipping through that, spend years clipping through that, spend years clipping coupons, all of that to like find a way coupons, all of that to like find a way coupons, all of that to like find a way to orient myself to making money. And to orient myself to making money. And to orient myself to making money. And when you pump people out, they realize, when you pump people out, they realize, when you pump people out, they realize, "Oh my god, this is oversaturated." And "Oh my god, this is oversaturated." And "Oh my god, this is oversaturated." And I didn't even get a degree that people I didn't even get a degree that people I didn't even get a degree that people wanted me to that that industry wanted wanted me to that that industry wanted wanted me to that that industry wanted me to get anyway. So I come out with a me to get anyway. So I come out with a me to get anyway. So I come out with a double whammy of all this debt as if I double whammy of all this debt as if I double whammy of all this debt as if I had learned something useful. The jobs had learned something useful. The jobs had learned something useful. The jobs are largely already filled in the upper are largely already filled in the upper are largely already filled in the upper echelon anyway. And I didn't even get a echelon anyway. And I didn't even get a echelon anyway. And I didn't even get a degree that's going to help me in degree that's going to help me in degree that's going to help me in industry in in the parts of industry industry in in the parts of industry industry in in the parts of industry that are calling out for people. And so that are calling out for people. And so that are calling out for people. And so now look at the explosion of now look at the explosion of now look at the explosion of administrative positions because that is administrative positions because that is administrative positions because that is basically the world trying to absorb all basically the world trying to absorb all basically the world trying to absorb all these people. Now we can get into the these people. Now we can get into the these people. Now we can get into the NOS's of it all and then in my opinion NOS's of it all and then in my opinion NOS's of it all and then in my opinion fraudulently siphoning money off of fraudulently siphoning money off of fraudulently siphoning money off of taxpayers so that they can create the taxpayers so that they can create the taxpayers so that they can create the positions for these people to take over positions for these people to take over positions for these people to take over these institutions. That one um is a these institutions. That one um is a these institutions. That one um is a separate debate so we'll set it aside separate debate so we'll set it aside separate debate so we'll set it aside for now. But like that's the machinery for now. But like that's the machinery for now. But like that's the machinery that you've got going. This is why you that you've got going. This is why you that you've got going. This is why you see this insane rise in the amount of see this insane rise in the amount of see this insane rise in the amount of administrative positions whether it's in administrative positions whether it's in administrative positions whether it's in healthcare education and if instead of healthcare education and if instead of healthcare education and if instead of that what we did was go this is not a that what we did was go this is not a that what we did was go this is not a blanket call to go to higher education blanket call to go to higher education blanket call to go to higher education this is what does industry need what are this is what does industry need what are this is what does industry need what are we actually trying to build make sure we actually trying to build make sure we actually trying to build make sure that people are going into those funnels that people are going into those funnels that people are going into those funnels based on interest and ability quite based on interest and ability quite based on interest and ability quite frankly and then you see what's actually frankly and then you see what's actually frankly and then you see what's actually needed and you don't send your kids to needed and you don't send your kids to needed and you don't send your kids to college if they're not going to be able college if they're not going to be able college if they're not going to be able to make use to that especially not in an to make use to that especially not in an to make use to that especially not in an era where they're dude kids are era where they're dude kids are era where they're dude kids are graduating with six figures in debt like graduating with six figures in debt like graduating with six figures in debt like that that is that's unconscionable that that is that's unconscionable that that is that's unconscionable >> policy wonk uh Drew has something to say >> policy wonk uh Drew has something to say >> policy wonk uh Drew has something to say let's go so uh no child left behind u let's go so uh no child left behind u let's go so uh no child left behind u from George Bush that made that people from George Bush that made that people from George Bush that made that people can't fail so you have a bunch of f can't fail so you have a bunch of f can't fail so you have a bunch of f students who aren't good um in high students who aren't good um in high students who aren't good um in high school education not only getting able school education not only getting able school education not only getting able to get into schools but getting to get into schools but getting to get into schools but getting guaranteed loans to get into these guaranteed loans to get into these guaranteed loans to get into these schools so now I failed out of high schools so now I failed out of high schools so now I failed out of high school I was a terrible high school school I was a terrible high school school I was a terrible high school student I have $60,000 in debt. I got a student I have $60,000 in debt. I got a student I have $60,000 in debt. I got a degree in general business and now I degree in general business and now I degree in general business and now I can't find a job can't find a job can't find a job >> and now I'm sorry. >> and now I'm sorry. >> and now I'm sorry. >> They all go communications >> They all go communications >> They all go communications >> and and now I can't get a job and now >> and and now I can't get a job and now >> and and now I can't get a job and now I'm mad and now I'm frustrated and I'm mad and now I'm frustrated and I'm mad and now I'm frustrated and somebody saying, "Hey, are you somebody saying, "Hey, are you somebody saying, "Hey, are you frustrated and mad? Come join the DSA. frustrated and mad? Come join the DSA. frustrated and mad? Come join the DSA. We're going to revolt." We're going to revolt." We're going to revolt." >> Yes. Literally. >> Yes. Literally. >> Yes. Literally. >> Where I'm curious though, cuz you >> Where I'm curious though, cuz you >> Where I'm curious though, cuz you mentioned administrative. mentioned administrative. mentioned administrative. >> I wish we had that true true button that >> I wish we had that true true button that >> I wish we had that true true button that I've [laughter] been asking. I've [laughter] been asking. I've [laughter] been asking. >> We do. I think we do. It's there >> We do. I think we do. It's there >> We do. I think we do. It's there somewhere. somewhere. somewhere. >> Um, but you mentioned administrative >> Um, but you mentioned administrative >> Um, but you mentioned administrative positions. So you would say, and I'm positions. So you would say, and I'm positions. So you would say, and I'm just trying to get the the whole just trying to get the the whole just trying to get the the whole perspective, but you would say someone perspective, but you would say someone perspective, but you would say someone who is working at a fast food restaurant who is working at a fast food restaurant who is working at a fast food restaurant postgrad who went to college, like no postgrad who went to college, like no postgrad who went to college, like no matter what the college, matter what the college, matter what the college, >> is the same kind of elite as like >> is the same kind of elite as like >> is the same kind of elite as like someone who is in a more white collar someone who is in a more white collar someone who is in a more white collar position, position, position, >> who went to college. >> who went to college. >> who went to college. >> What what I'm speaking to is a mental >> What what I'm speaking to is a mental >> What what I'm speaking to is a mental construction of what people believe it construction of what people believe it construction of what people believe it means to be in the elite class. Gotcha. means to be in the elite class. Gotcha. means to be in the elite class. Gotcha. So elites, if you're really going to um So elites, if you're really going to um So elites, if you're really going to um pin it down, are who are the people in pin it down, are who are the people in pin it down, are who are the people in society that have power? Either economic society that have power? Either economic society that have power? Either economic power uh or political power. That that's power uh or political power. That that's power uh or political power. That that's the elite. Who's actually running the the elite. Who's actually running the the elite. Who's actually running the country? And it is a distressingly small country? And it is a distressingly small country? And it is a distressingly small number of people that are actually number of people that are actually number of people that are actually running the country. This goes back to running the country. This goes back to running the country. This goes back to the idea of the iron law of oligarchy the idea of the iron law of oligarchy the idea of the iron law of oligarchy that no matter what you do, you will be that no matter what you do, you will be that no matter what you do, you will be ruled by a small group of people. That ruled by a small group of people. That ruled by a small group of people. That goes for families, that goes for goes for families, that goes for goes for families, that goes for companies, that goes for countries. It companies, that goes for countries. It companies, that goes for countries. It doesn't matter. There's always going to doesn't matter. There's always going to doesn't matter. There's always going to be a small number of people that have to be a small number of people that have to be a small number of people that have to focus everybody's attention and get them focus everybody's attention and get them focus everybody's attention and get them moving in the right direction. It's moving in the right direction. It's moving in the right direction. It's never going to be the majority. So you never going to be the majority. So you never going to be the majority. So you you're just never going to get that big. you're just never going to get that big. you're just never going to get that big. >> It's the word elite. I think that's >> It's the word elite. I think that's >> It's the word elite. I think that's people are getting people are getting people are getting >> that's what I'm trying to figure out. >> that's what I'm trying to figure out. >> that's what I'm trying to figure out. >> It's a mental block. It's a mental >> It's a mental block. It's a mental >> It's a mental block. It's a mental block. We should we should use a block. We should we should use a block. We should we should use a different word. different word. different word. >> Saying me I think adding the mental >> Saying me I think adding the mental >> Saying me I think adding the mental layer helps that because when you say layer helps that because when you say layer helps that because when you say elite when I hear elite I am thinking of elite when I hear elite I am thinking of elite when I hear elite I am thinking of the people in power. I'm thinking of the people in power. I'm thinking of the people in power. I'm thinking of people who have a say. I'm thinking of people who have a say. I'm thinking of people who have a say. I'm thinking of people who have a sway. I'm thinking of people who have a sway. I'm thinking of people who have a sway. I'm thinking of the lobbyists. I'm thinking of all those the lobbyists. I'm thinking of all those the lobbyists. I'm thinking of all those people. I'm not thinking of the kid who people. I'm not thinking of the kid who people. I'm not thinking of the kid who got a degree in communications and got a degree in communications and got a degree in communications and happens to be a general manager a hot happens to be a general manager a hot happens to be a general manager a hot topic. You know what I mean? topic. You know what I mean? topic. You know what I mean? >> You're you're nailing something so >> You're you're nailing something so >> You're you're nailing something so perfect and I'm so glad you're asking perfect and I'm so glad you're asking perfect and I'm so glad you're asking this and this is one of those times this and this is one of those times this and this is one of those times where I went through the same confusion. where I went through the same confusion. where I went through the same confusion. I've spent so much time on it now that I I've spent so much time on it now that I I've spent so much time on it now that I forgot that I was once confused about forgot that I was once confused about forgot that I was once confused about this. So I literally had to do what the this. So I literally had to do what the this. So I literally had to do what the [ __ ] is an elite? Like I had to look it [ __ ] is an elite? Like I had to look it [ __ ] is an elite? Like I had to look it up. I'm like what do people mean? I up. I'm like what do people mean? I up. I'm like what do people mean? I don't even understand. Am I one of the don't even understand. Am I one of the don't even understand. Am I one of the elites? Like I don't understand what elites? Like I don't understand what elites? Like I don't understand what this is. So you the elite there is the this is. So you the elite there is the this is. So you the elite there is the actual elite that actually run the actual elite that actually run the actual elite that actually run the country. That's what the word was meant country. That's what the word was meant country. That's what the word was meant to describe. Then people started to describe. Then people started to describe. Then people started thinking and they wouldn't use that thinking and they wouldn't use that thinking and they wouldn't use that word. So this is like now we're word. So this is like now we're word. So this is like now we're confusing the parliaments that people confusing the parliaments that people confusing the parliaments that people use on news programs when they're doing use on news programs when they're doing use on news programs when they're doing analysis of what's going on. They just analysis of what's going on. They just analysis of what's going on. They just keep feeding into this idea of the keep feeding into this idea of the keep feeding into this idea of the elites as like a known category. Okay. elites as like a known category. Okay. elites as like a known category. Okay. What they're all referring to is the What they're all referring to is the What they're all referring to is the people who actually run the country. people who actually run the country. people who actually run the country. Political power, economic power. That Political power, economic power. That Political power, economic power. That then there is this idea of, hey kids, then there is this idea of, hey kids, then there is this idea of, hey kids, the right path is to do well in school, the right path is to do well in school, the right path is to do well in school, go to college, do well, get a degree, go go to college, do well, get a degree, go go to college, do well, get a degree, go out, get a job, climb the corporate out, get a job, climb the corporate out, get a job, climb the corporate ladder. That's to do everything right. ladder. That's to do everything right. ladder. That's to do everything right. And that was the thing that really broke And that was the thing that really broke And that was the thing that really broke down for millennials. And millennials down for millennials. And millennials down for millennials. And millennials started feeling like, wait a second, I started feeling like, wait a second, I started feeling like, wait a second, I did, and they would say this phrase over did, and they would say this phrase over did, and they would say this phrase over and over. I did everything right. Uh, and over. I did everything right. Uh, and over. I did everything right. Uh, and I'm still not getting and I'm still not getting and I'm still not getting >> my Jen still says that. Like I will say >> my Jen still says that. Like I will say >> my Jen still says that. Like I will say I said that for the nine months that I I said that for the nine months that I I said that for the nine months that I was job hunting before I worked here. I was job hunting before I worked here. I was job hunting before I worked here. I said the same thing. So I think it's said the same thing. So I think it's said the same thing. So I think it's it's a perfection it's a perfection it's a perfection >> continuous that thing of I did >> continuous that thing of I did >> continuous that thing of I did everything right. everything right. everything right. >> It's not like your parents told you go >> It's not like your parents told you go >> It's not like your parents told you go become part of the elite, but the I did become part of the elite, but the I did become part of the elite, but the I did everything right was I'm going to get a everything right was I'm going to get a everything right was I'm going to get a job and be a part of that elite job and be a part of that elite job and be a part of that elite structure of the people that are running structure of the people that are running structure of the people that are running the world essentially that that have the world essentially that that have the world essentially that that have important jobs if you think of it that important jobs if you think of it that important jobs if you think of it that way. So there really is a useful way. So there really is a useful way. So there really is a useful distinction to make between the people distinction to make between the people distinction to make between the people that actually have power, economic, uh, that actually have power, economic, uh, that actually have power, economic, uh, political, separating those off. Those political, separating those off. Those political, separating those off. Those are are actually the elites, which by are are actually the elites, which by are are actually the elites, which by the way, I do not consider myself part the way, I do not consider myself part the way, I do not consider myself part of that. Um, then there are the people of that. Um, then there are the people of that. Um, then there are the people that aspired to be um, high-powered, if that aspired to be um, high-powered, if that aspired to be um, high-powered, if you will, like I'm in my case, I'm you will, like I'm in my case, I'm you will, like I'm in my case, I'm running a company. It's my own company. running a company. It's my own company. running a company. It's my own company. I live or die by my own abilities. Cool. I live or die by my own abilities. Cool. I live or die by my own abilities. Cool. Um, I don't have any political power Um, I don't have any political power Um, I don't have any political power whatsoever because I'm just not good at whatsoever because I'm just not good at whatsoever because I'm just not good at that game. Networking, um, building that game. Networking, um, building that game. Networking, um, building large networks and things. It's just, large networks and things. It's just, large networks and things. It's just, uh, I'm just not good at it. So, I would uh, I'm just not good at it. So, I would uh, I'm just not good at it. So, I would say I sit outside of that traditional say I sit outside of that traditional say I sit outside of that traditional definition. But, did I follow the go do definition. But, did I follow the go do definition. But, did I follow the go do the right thing path? Yes, I did. So, the right thing path? Yes, I did. So, the right thing path? Yes, I did. So, um, had I been unsuccessful, would I be um, had I been unsuccessful, would I be um, had I been unsuccessful, would I be prone to the like I did everything right prone to the like I did everything right prone to the like I did everything right and it still didn't work out? Maybe. and it still didn't work out? Maybe. and it still didn't work out? Maybe. >> It's certainly possible. But those those >> It's certainly possible. But those those >> It's certainly possible. But those those are the two separate things. What's are the two separate things. What's are the two separate things. What's that? that? that? >> Oh, I was just Trump quote. >> Oh, I was just Trump quote. >> Oh, I was just Trump quote. >> So, those are the things that I think >> So, those are the things that I think >> So, those are the things that I think people are sort of mashing together of people are sort of mashing together of people are sort of mashing together of like the path to um becoming important like the path to um becoming important like the path to um becoming important in the world. And when that gets in the world. And when that gets in the world. And when that gets derailed, they're going to be called the derailed, they're going to be called the derailed, they're going to be called the overproduction of elites. But they're overproduction of elites. But they're overproduction of elites. But they're really trying to describe there is a really trying to describe there is a really trying to describe there is a path to becoming one of the people that path to becoming one of the people that path to becoming one of the people that runs a large bank and is obviously runs a large bank and is obviously runs a large bank and is obviously thusly important is a senator or a thusly important is a senator or a thusly important is a senator or a congressperson and thusly is really congressperson and thusly is really congressperson and thusly is really important. Um but there's very few jobs important. Um but there's very few jobs important. Um but there's very few jobs and so it's a similar kind of um and so it's a similar kind of um and so it's a similar kind of um there is a word that I'm looking for there is a word that I'm looking for there is a word that I'm looking for scandal. There's a similar scandal going scandal. There's a similar scandal going scandal. There's a similar scandal going on with PhD students. And when you on with PhD students. And when you on with PhD students. And when you come up in the academic field and you're come up in the academic field and you're come up in the academic field and you're trying to be a PhD, you know that there trying to be a PhD, you know that there trying to be a PhD, you know that there are way more PhD students than there are are way more PhD students than there are are way more PhD students than there are academic roles for those people getting academic roles for those people getting academic roles for those people getting the PhD degrees. And so I can't remember the PhD degrees. And so I can't remember the PhD degrees. And so I can't remember who, but I heard somebody talking about who, but I heard somebody talking about who, but I heard somebody talking about this where they finally started just this where they finally started just this where they finally started just really reducing the number of people really reducing the number of people really reducing the number of people that they would be um forget what the that they would be um forget what the that they would be um forget what the the adviser I think uh being an adviser the adviser I think uh being an adviser the adviser I think uh being an adviser for cuz they're like they knew they're for cuz they're like they knew they're for cuz they're like they knew they're just not like if they've got 10 people just not like if they've got 10 people just not like if they've got 10 people and there's only going to be one slot and there's only going to be one slot and there's only going to be one slot they're like yeah this you don't want to they're like yeah this you don't want to they're like yeah this you don't want to be putting people through this where be putting people through this where be putting people through this where they're spending the time getting the they're spending the time getting the they're spending the time getting the degree taking on the debt and they know degree taking on the debt and they know degree taking on the debt and they know they're never going to be able to they're never going to be able to they're never going to be able to actually get into academia. actually get into academia. actually get into academia. Um, so very similar thing. It it just Um, so very similar thing. It it just Um, so very similar thing. It it just the idea of how you save your kids from the idea of how you save your kids from the idea of how you save your kids from struggling is to put them in this quote struggling is to put them in this quote struggling is to put them in this quote unquote elite pipeline and there's just unquote elite pipeline and there's just unquote elite pipeline and there's just not enough jobs at the end of that not enough jobs at the end of that not enough jobs at the end of that rainbow. rainbow. rainbow. >> Yeah. U chat is pushing up against that >> Yeah. U chat is pushing up against that >> Yeah. U chat is pushing up against that thing elite. But okay, I want to pivot. thing elite. But okay, I want to pivot. thing elite. But okay, I want to pivot. I want to go to this Tucker Carlson I want to go to this Tucker Carlson I want to go to this Tucker Carlson thing. He sat down at the table with thing. He sat down at the table with thing. He sat down at the table with Thomas Massie, Marjgerie Taylor Green, Thomas Massie, Marjgerie Taylor Green, Thomas Massie, Marjgerie Taylor Green, Joe Kent, a bunch of other guys. And it Joe Kent, a bunch of other guys. And it Joe Kent, a bunch of other guys. And it was a lot of speculation he's going to was a lot of speculation he's going to was a lot of speculation he's going to start a third party. Some people are start a third party. Some people are start a third party. Some people are saying he's starting a DSA like saying he's starting a DSA like saying he's starting a DSA like revolution within the Republican party revolution within the Republican party revolution within the Republican party since the Republican party is all MAGA since the Republican party is all MAGA since the Republican party is all MAGA and the American first people are and the American first people are and the American first people are starting to feel some type of way starting to feel some type of way starting to feel some type of way because MAGA is not American America because MAGA is not American America because MAGA is not American America first thing anymore. So he released this first thing anymore. So he released this first thing anymore. So he released this 10-point plan. I'm not going to play the 10-point plan. I'm not going to play the 10-point plan. I'm not going to play the video. It's hour and a half long. You video. It's hour and a half long. You video. It's hour and a half long. You guys go check it out. But I just want to guys go check it out. But I just want to guys go check it out. But I just want to go through the 10 points real quick. See go through the 10 points real quick. See go through the 10 points real quick. See how you feel. See if he's at least on to how you feel. See if he's at least on to how you feel. See if he's at least on to something or if this is Tucker just something or if this is Tucker just something or if this is Tucker just getting attention. getting attention. getting attention. >> Yeah. And we need to take these one at a >> Yeah. And we need to take these one at a >> Yeah. And we need to take these one at a time. time. time. >> Cool. Okay. Number one, fair. The same >> Cool. Okay. Number one, fair. The same >> Cool. Okay. Number one, fair. The same rule should apply to presidents, federal rule should apply to presidents, federal rule should apply to presidents, federal agents, and elites such as Jeffrey agents, and elites such as Jeffrey agents, and elites such as Jeffrey Epstein, whose impunity Carlson cast as Epstein, whose impunity Carlson cast as Epstein, whose impunity Carlson cast as emblematic of the Epstein class, emblematic of the Epstein class, emblematic of the Epstein class, enriching itself through a corrupt enriching itself through a corrupt enriching itself through a corrupt system. system. system. >> Okay, back up one sentence because I >> Okay, back up one sentence because I >> Okay, back up one sentence because I think he says, um, okay, so I think this think he says, um, okay, so I think this think he says, um, okay, so I think this is important context. So Carlson, these is important context. So Carlson, these is important context. So Carlson, these 10 points specifically address the 10 points specifically address the 10 points specifically address the following. Carlson said, any successor following. Carlson said, any successor following. Carlson said, any successor to America's faltering political system to America's faltering political system to America's faltering political system should begin with a shared understanding should begin with a shared understanding should begin with a shared understanding of what the country should be, which he of what the country should be, which he of what the country should be, which he distilled into these 10 points. So, the distilled into these 10 points. So, the distilled into these 10 points. So, the first thing that the country should be first thing that the country should be first thing that the country should be as fair as Drew just read. Okay. Um, so as fair as Drew just read. Okay. Um, so as fair as Drew just read. Okay. Um, so I think this one's great. Like I was I think this one's great. Like I was I think this one's great. Like I was really surprised how much of this I was really surprised how much of this I was really surprised how much of this I was like, "Oh yeah, I'm on board with that." like, "Oh yeah, I'm on board with that." like, "Oh yeah, I'm on board with that." So the same rules should apply to So the same rules should apply to So the same rules should apply to everybody obviously. And so I think everybody obviously. And so I think everybody obviously. And so I think everybody is rightly absolutely outraged everybody is rightly absolutely outraged everybody is rightly absolutely outraged to find out that there really are these to find out that there really are these to find out that there really are these secret groups that Alex Jones has been secret groups that Alex Jones has been secret groups that Alex Jones has been banging on about. Now whether they are banging on about. Now whether they are banging on about. Now whether they are exactly as Alex Jones has detailed it uh exactly as Alex Jones has detailed it uh exactly as Alex Jones has detailed it uh is a separate contention but the fact is a separate contention but the fact is a separate contention but the fact that there is this these secret clubs that there is this these secret clubs that there is this these secret clubs that these people get together oftent that these people get together oftent that these people get together oftent times with really horrifying uh unifying times with really horrifying uh unifying times with really horrifying uh unifying principles such as the ex sexual principles such as the ex sexual principles such as the ex sexual exploitation of children obviously is a exploitation of children obviously is a exploitation of children obviously is a level of grotesque that people should level of grotesque that people should level of grotesque that people should respond to with extreme aggression. And respond to with extreme aggression. And respond to with extreme aggression. And so him saying that, yeah, we've got to so him saying that, yeah, we've got to so him saying that, yeah, we've got to get rid of this um uh laws for thee but get rid of this um uh laws for thee but get rid of this um uh laws for thee but not for me. There is this oligarchy of not for me. There is this oligarchy of not for me. There is this oligarchy of people that we're calling the Epson people that we're calling the Epson people that we're calling the Epson class, which I think is actually um class, which I think is actually um class, which I think is actually um problematic. I would not do that because problematic. I would not do that because problematic. I would not do that because now you're you're giving them an easy now you're you're giving them an easy now you're you're giving them an easy out. What you want to talk about, out. What you want to talk about, out. What you want to talk about, because this one to me is more um more because this one to me is more um more because this one to me is more um more productively about money and politics. productively about money and politics. productively about money and politics. So when you talk about these guys as So when you talk about these guys as So when you talk about these guys as sort of being um outside the laws of the sort of being um outside the laws of the sort of being um outside the laws of the country that matters then the question country that matters then the question country that matters then the question becomes how do they get outside the laws becomes how do they get outside the laws becomes how do they get outside the laws of the country and there are more ways of the country and there are more ways of the country and there are more ways than one. So way number one is just than one. So way number one is just than one. So way number one is just you're so uh wealthy that you have you're so uh wealthy that you have you're so uh wealthy that you have something virtually every politician something virtually every politician something virtually every politician wants which is access to wealth. So this wants which is access to wealth. So this wants which is access to wealth. So this becomes the playbook that was documented becomes the playbook that was documented becomes the playbook that was documented very well that the Rothschilds were very well that the Rothschilds were very well that the Rothschilds were running. um which again my whole thing running. um which again my whole thing running. um which again my whole thing you guys know it is the benality of the you guys know it is the benality of the you guys know it is the benality of the Rothschild is the far more important Rothschild is the far more important Rothschild is the far more important thing. So he was saying hey we've got thing. So he was saying hey we've got thing. So he was saying hey we've got money politicians want money but money politicians want money but money politicians want money but politicians pass laws those laws are politicians pass laws those laws are politicians pass laws those laws are important to our money so we need to important to our money so we need to important to our money so we need to make sure that we have relationships make sure that we have relationships make sure that we have relationships with politicians. It's actually really with politicians. It's actually really with politicians. It's actually really smart. Uh if I were good at it I would smart. Uh if I were good at it I would smart. Uh if I were good at it I would try to have a relationship with try to have a relationship with try to have a relationship with politicians because as we're all living politicians because as we're all living politicians because as we're all living through right now policy matters through right now policy matters through right now policy matters tremendously and so you definitely want tremendously and so you definitely want tremendously and so you definitely want to have as much influence as you can to have as much influence as you can to have as much influence as you can over politicians. I really hope that over politicians. I really hope that over politicians. I really hope that there are politicians that listen to there are politicians that listen to there are politicians that listen to this um live stream and hear ideas that this um live stream and hear ideas that this um live stream and hear ideas that I put forward and are like, "Yes, okay, I put forward and are like, "Yes, okay, I put forward and are like, "Yes, okay, that's a very useful argument. I'm going that's a very useful argument. I'm going that's a very useful argument. I'm going to go use that." So, this is my attempt to go use that." So, this is my attempt to go use that." So, this is my attempt to have influence over people, to have influence over people, to have influence over people, politicians, everything. I'm I'm putting politicians, everything. I'm I'm putting politicians, everything. I'm I'm putting it out there in with the skill set that it out there in with the skill set that it out there in with the skill set that I have. So, um I get that. Now, once I have. So, um I get that. Now, once I have. So, um I get that. Now, once somebody tries to elevate themselves somebody tries to elevate themselves somebody tries to elevate themselves beyond the normal workings of things, beyond the normal workings of things, beyond the normal workings of things, that's where this becomes problematic. that's where this becomes problematic. that's where this becomes problematic. So they're so embedded in the government So they're so embedded in the government So they're so embedded in the government that they can shift things over to them that they can shift things over to them that they can shift things over to them uh over to so that could be through uh over to so that could be through uh over to so that could be through NOS's right which I think is the just NOS's right which I think is the just NOS's right which I think is the just one of the largest scandals of our era. one of the largest scandals of our era. one of the largest scandals of our era. It could be um doing something to get uh It could be um doing something to get uh It could be um doing something to get uh federal dollars aimed at your company or federal dollars aimed at your company or federal dollars aimed at your company or get this is my new hobby horse um which get this is my new hobby horse um which get this is my new hobby horse um which we have to discuss later hopefully we we have to discuss later hopefully we we have to discuss later hopefully we have time where you're getting the have time where you're getting the have time where you're getting the government to actually take a stake in government to actually take a stake in government to actually take a stake in your company. So look at the guys in your company. So look at the guys in your company. So look at the guys in OpenAI, look at Anthropic, they actively OpenAI, look at Anthropic, they actively OpenAI, look at Anthropic, they actively want to get regulatory capture, okay? want to get regulatory capture, okay? want to get regulatory capture, okay? They're just really trying everything They're just really trying everything They're just really trying everything they can to get that. So rather than ask they can to get that. So rather than ask they can to get that. So rather than ask me to accept that everybody involved in me to accept that everybody involved in me to accept that everybody involved in that is part of the sexual exploitation that is part of the sexual exploitation that is part of the sexual exploitation of children where they will be able to of children where they will be able to of children where they will be able to easily debunk that because it actually easily debunk that because it actually easily debunk that because it actually isn't the unifying thing there. That's isn't the unifying thing there. That's isn't the unifying thing there. That's another way which is to have something another way which is to have something another way which is to have something over each other to um do such horrific over each other to um do such horrific over each other to um do such horrific things that you both have a gun pointed things that you both have a gun pointed things that you both have a gun pointed at each other's head like I'm not saying at each other's head like I'm not saying at each other's head like I'm not saying that doesn't exist. It obviously does that doesn't exist. It obviously does that doesn't exist. It obviously does and it obviously should be a deal it and it obviously should be a deal it and it obviously should be a deal it should be dealt with aggressively. Um should be dealt with aggressively. Um should be dealt with aggressively. Um but if you try to instead make this but if you try to instead make this but if you try to instead make this about something like um unjust power, about something like um unjust power, about something like um unjust power, backdoor dealings, money and politics, backdoor dealings, money and politics, backdoor dealings, money and politics, that's a more I think useful framing. that's a more I think useful framing. that's a more I think useful framing. Anyway, uh 100% he is correct. things Anyway, uh 100% he is correct. things Anyway, uh 100% he is correct. things should be fair. They are not currently should be fair. They are not currently should be fair. They are not currently uh history has never been fair on this uh history has never been fair on this uh history has never been fair on this count just because of the iron law of count just because of the iron law of count just because of the iron law of oligarchy. It is always going to be a oligarchy. It is always going to be a oligarchy. It is always going to be a small group of these people. It is going small group of these people. It is going small group of these people. It is going to be people that have power over you. to be people that have power over you. to be people that have power over you. They are going to find themselves in the They are going to find themselves in the They are going to find themselves in the same rooms with each other. They are same rooms with each other. They are same rooms with each other. They are going to do backdoor dealings. But there going to do backdoor dealings. But there going to do backdoor dealings. But there used to be an era where at least used to be an era where at least used to be an era where at least journalists uh had some integrity and journalists uh had some integrity and journalists uh had some integrity and held themselves accountable to doing held themselves accountable to doing held themselves accountable to doing real like hardcore hard-nose reporting. real like hardcore hard-nose reporting. real like hardcore hard-nose reporting. And then it was echoed in the culture And then it was echoed in the culture And then it was echoed in the culture that we didn't stand for that [ __ ] like that we didn't stand for that [ __ ] like that we didn't stand for that [ __ ] like the fact that um Nixon basically not the fact that um Nixon basically not the fact that um Nixon basically not only lost the presidency, lost his only lost the presidency, lost his only lost the presidency, lost his legacy, lost like he was a pariah the legacy, lost like he was a pariah the legacy, lost like he was a pariah the world over uh for what he did, which by world over uh for what he did, which by world over uh for what he did, which by today's standards is [ __ ] chump today's standards is [ __ ] chump today's standards is [ __ ] chump change, man. So anyway, the culture just change, man. So anyway, the culture just change, man. So anyway, the culture just now will turn a blind eye to virtually now will turn a blind eye to virtually now will turn a blind eye to virtually anything as long as you're on their anything as long as you're on their anything as long as you're on their team. So boy, would I like to get back team. So boy, would I like to get back team. So boy, would I like to get back to fair. Number two, sovereign. Carlson to fair. Number two, sovereign. Carlson to fair. Number two, sovereign. Carlson claimed Israel pushed the US into the claimed Israel pushed the US into the claimed Israel pushed the US into the Iran war through bribery or threat of or Iran war through bribery or threat of or Iran war through bribery or threat of or both while describing foreign lobbying, both while describing foreign lobbying, both while describing foreign lobbying, corporate control of government, and corporate control of government, and corporate control of government, and high interest debt as forms of slavery. high interest debt as forms of slavery. high interest debt as forms of slavery. >> Okay. So, should we be sovereign as a >> Okay. So, should we be sovereign as a >> Okay. So, should we be sovereign as a nation? We absolutely should. Do I think nation? We absolutely should. Do I think nation? We absolutely should. Do I think that Carlson has become completely that Carlson has become completely that Carlson has become completely deranged on Israel? Yes, I do. Um, this deranged on Israel? Yes, I do. Um, this deranged on Israel? Yes, I do. Um, this is one of those things that I think that is one of those things that I think that is one of those things that I think that people are giving way too much credit to people are giving way too much credit to people are giving way too much credit to the Israeli government for being more the Israeli government for being more the Israeli government for being more powerful than they actually are. powerful than they actually are. powerful than they actually are. Trump is doing things that he said he Trump is doing things that he said he Trump is doing things that he said he was going to do for a very, very, very was going to do for a very, very, very was going to do for a very, very, very long time. Now, does Trump want their long time. Now, does Trump want their long time. Now, does Trump want their money? Yes. Does Trump want their money? Yes. Does Trump want their money? Yes. Does Trump want their support? Yes. Does Trump want access to support? Yes. Does Trump want access to support? Yes. Does Trump want access to their technology? Yes. Does he want their technology? Yes. Does he want their technology? Yes. Does he want access to um their intel? Definitely. access to um their intel? Definitely. access to um their intel? Definitely. Um, but when you think about how Um, but when you think about how Um, but when you think about how important the Middle East is to the important the Middle East is to the important the Middle East is to the future of the US, then you understand future of the US, then you understand future of the US, then you understand why it's important. And I mean that from why it's important. And I mean that from why it's important. And I mean that from a dollars and cents standpoint, the US a dollars and cents standpoint, the US a dollars and cents standpoint, the US economy. This is Professor um Jung. economy. This is Professor um Jung. economy. This is Professor um Jung. Hopefully we'll have time to listen to Hopefully we'll have time to listen to Hopefully we'll have time to listen to his take from Piers Morgan. But uh the his take from Piers Morgan. But uh the his take from Piers Morgan. But uh the the reality is that as I've been talking the reality is that as I've been talking the reality is that as I've been talking about since the beginning of this, a about since the beginning of this, a about since the beginning of this, a large part of the reason that Trump is large part of the reason that Trump is large part of the reason that Trump is so engaged with the Middle East is so engaged with the Middle East is so engaged with the Middle East is because of the amount of wealth that because of the amount of wealth that because of the amount of wealth that they have [snorts] aggregated. I do not they have [snorts] aggregated. I do not they have [snorts] aggregated. I do not think people are being honest with think people are being honest with think people are being honest with themselves about how much money the GCC themselves about how much money the GCC themselves about how much money the GCC nations have aggregated and they've nations have aggregated and they've nations have aggregated and they've packaged it for investment and the US is packaged it for investment and the US is packaged it for investment and the US is desperate to be the home of that desperate to be the home of that desperate to be the home of that investment. So, this is not going to be investment. So, this is not going to be investment. So, this is not going to be an Israel over everything um answer an Israel over everything um answer an Israel over everything um answer because they they just don't have enough because they they just don't have enough because they they just don't have enough capital to make it Israel over capital to make it Israel over capital to make it Israel over everything. And so, I think you're going everything. And so, I think you're going everything. And so, I think you're going to see Trump go hard in the paint to try to see Trump go hard in the paint to try to see Trump go hard in the paint to try to appease the GCC nations who control to appease the GCC nations who control to appease the GCC nations who control such a massive uh purse. And this is why such a massive uh purse. And this is why such a massive uh purse. And this is why Trump has not been shy about publicly Trump has not been shy about publicly Trump has not been shy about publicly disagreeing with Netanyahu. Um so, yeah, disagreeing with Netanyahu. Um so, yeah, disagreeing with Netanyahu. Um so, yeah, I get it. I certainly understand that I get it. I certainly understand that I get it. I certainly understand that Israel has influence. I understand that Israel has influence. I understand that Israel has influence. I understand that for a long time we've been giving them a for a long time we've been giving them a for a long time we've been giving them a lot of money, but I think people need to lot of money, but I think people need to lot of money, but I think people need to ask the bigger question of why. What are ask the bigger question of why. What are ask the bigger question of why. What are we getting out of this? Um, and I think we getting out of this? Um, and I think we getting out of this? Um, and I think people have a mental model that goes people have a mental model that goes people have a mental model that goes something like these guys are just something like these guys are just something like these guys are just bribing us. Everybody is just doing it bribing us. Everybody is just doing it bribing us. Everybody is just doing it for the money. There are people that are for the money. There are people that are for the money. There are people that are way richer that are throwing more money way richer that are throwing more money way richer that are throwing more money around. So like, um, yeah, Elon Musk around. So like, um, yeah, Elon Musk around. So like, um, yeah, Elon Musk could dunk on all those [ __ ] in could dunk on all those [ __ ] in could dunk on all those [ __ ] in terms of money. So, uh, that narrative terms of money. So, uh, that narrative terms of money. So, uh, that narrative just doesn't hold for me. I think that just doesn't hold for me. I think that just doesn't hold for me. I think that there are other things that I just ran there are other things that I just ran there are other things that I just ran through that are far more likely to be through that are far more likely to be through that are far more likely to be true. I think you will find that there true. I think you will find that there true. I think you will find that there are other people um that have Trump's are other people um that have Trump's are other people um that have Trump's ear in the region, which is part of why ear in the region, which is part of why ear in the region, which is part of why he keeps tacoing out because the regions he keeps tacoing out because the regions he keeps tacoing out because the regions that are likely to invest in the US are that are likely to invest in the US are that are likely to invest in the US are telling him don't do this. Um or you're telling him don't do this. Um or you're telling him don't do this. Um or you're going to lose our money. So, um also I going to lose our money. So, um also I going to lose our money. So, um also I don't think Trump is likely to be a dog don't think Trump is likely to be a dog don't think Trump is likely to be a dog whose tail wags him. I think he's far whose tail wags him. I think he's far whose tail wags him. I think he's far more likely to be completely unhinged more likely to be completely unhinged more likely to be completely unhinged and just do whatever the [ __ ] he wants. and just do whatever the [ __ ] he wants. and just do whatever the [ __ ] he wants. Um so, yeah. Anyway, that one is again, Um so, yeah. Anyway, that one is again, Um so, yeah. Anyway, that one is again, he's on the right thing. We should be he's on the right thing. We should be he's on the right thing. We should be sovereign but at the same time there the sovereign but at the same time there the sovereign but at the same time there the US does not have allies. We only have US does not have allies. We only have US does not have allies. We only have interests. We are going to pursue our interests. We are going to pursue our interests. We are going to pursue our interests and that I think will be far interests and that I think will be far interests and that I think will be far more predictive of where we go. Looking more predictive of where we go. Looking more predictive of where we go. Looking at the economy and figuring out who's at the economy and figuring out who's at the economy and figuring out who's going to help us with the economy is not going to help us with the economy is not going to help us with the economy is not going to be Israel in the same way that going to be Israel in the same way that going to be Israel in the same way that it would be the GCC nations. Uh so yeah, it would be the GCC nations. Uh so yeah, it would be the GCC nations. Uh so yeah, >> high interest debt as forms of slaver. >> high interest debt as forms of slaver. >> high interest debt as forms of slaver. >> Um >> Um >> Um high interest debt. Okay. So this is high interest debt. Okay. So this is high interest debt. Okay. So this is the question becomes how and why did the question becomes how and why did the question becomes how and why did people take on the debt? If somebody is people take on the debt? If somebody is people take on the debt? If somebody is taking on debt because they want to taking on debt because they want to taking on debt because they want to trade on margin for instance then that trade on margin for instance then that trade on margin for instance then that is um that's a them problem. That is not is um that's a them problem. That is not is um that's a them problem. That is not the nobody did that to them. They made the nobody did that to them. They made the nobody did that to them. They made that decision. If they took on if that decision. If they took on if that decision. If they took on if they're calling the interest rates that they're calling the interest rates that they're calling the interest rates that we have now high interest rate debt we have now high interest rate debt we have now high interest rate debt that's that is ah historic. That's full that's that is ah historic. That's full that's that is ah historic. That's full [ __ ] Our interest rates right now [ __ ] Our interest rates right now [ __ ] Our interest rates right now even though they are elevated like even though they are elevated like even though they are elevated like regionally they are historically regionally they are historically regionally they are historically comically low even now like national comically low even now like national comically low even now like national insurance he was talking about like insurance he was talking about like insurance he was talking about like specifically like credit card rates is specifically like credit card rates is specifically like credit card rates is an average of 20% for certain people an average of 20% for certain people an average of 20% for certain people things like that like things like that like things like that like >> okay so if you're talking about credit >> okay so if you're talking about credit >> okay so if you're talking about credit card debt card debt card debt >> like personal >> like personal >> like personal >> uh is that what he's talking about? >> uh is that what he's talking about? >> uh is that what he's talking about? >> Yeah, he literally cited credit card >> Yeah, he literally cited credit card >> Yeah, he literally cited credit card debts are 22%. debts are 22%. debts are 22%. >> Okay, so if we're talking specifically >> Okay, so if we're talking specifically >> Okay, so if we're talking specifically about credit card debt now you've got to about credit card debt now you've got to about credit card debt now you've got to get into the conversation of what did we get into the conversation of what did we get into the conversation of what did we really do here? This is about globalism. really do here? This is about globalism. really do here? This is about globalism. So, the fact that people's real wages So, the fact that people's real wages So, the fact that people's real wages aren't going up and that we have to mask aren't going up and that we have to mask aren't going up and that we have to mask the erosion of the buying power of the the erosion of the buying power of the the erosion of the buying power of the US public with immigrants and um credit US public with immigrants and um credit US public with immigrants and um credit card debt. card debt. card debt. Yes. Like that one is horrific. But I Yes. Like that one is horrific. But I Yes. Like that one is horrific. But I think the way that you want to talk think the way that you want to talk think the way that you want to talk about that is very much about globalism. about that is very much about globalism. about that is very much about globalism. We've got to stop pretending that we are We've got to stop pretending that we are We've got to stop pretending that we are the postworld war II America. So again, the postworld war II America. So again, the postworld war II America. So again, I agree with the highle statement, but I agree with the highle statement, but I agree with the highle statement, but the things that he's focusing on, the the things that he's focusing on, the the things that he's focusing on, the biggest debt problem that I think we biggest debt problem that I think we biggest debt problem that I think we have is that we've got we've driven up have is that we've got we've driven up have is that we've got we've driven up the cost of things like housing and the cost of things like housing and the cost of things like housing and healthcare for really [ __ ] stupid healthcare for really [ __ ] stupid healthcare for really [ __ ] stupid reasons that we should immediately reasons that we should immediately reasons that we should immediately unwind, that are um sinister at best, unwind, that are um sinister at best, unwind, that are um sinister at best, and we should be addressing that and we should be addressing that and we should be addressing that immediately. Nobody is addressing that immediately. Nobody is addressing that immediately. Nobody is addressing that whatsoever. Um Trump is at least trying whatsoever. Um Trump is at least trying whatsoever. Um Trump is at least trying to bring manufacturing back. He's got to bring manufacturing back. He's got to bring manufacturing back. He's got the right impulse. He's going about a the right impulse. He's going about a the right impulse. He's going about a lot of things in very poor fashion, but lot of things in very poor fashion, but lot of things in very poor fashion, but he's certainly nodding to, okay, we've he's certainly nodding to, okay, we've he's certainly nodding to, okay, we've got to empower the worker. We're going got to empower the worker. We're going got to empower the worker. We're going to get to this when we talk about Scott to get to this when we talk about Scott to get to this when we talk about Scott Bessant. They're trying to do the right Bessant. They're trying to do the right Bessant. They're trying to do the right thing, but it's going to be way more thing, but it's going to be way more thing, but it's going to be way more complicated than they think, especially complicated than they think, especially complicated than they think, especially when they're fighting a war over in Iran when they're fighting a war over in Iran when they're fighting a war over in Iran that almost certainly at this point, that almost certainly at this point, that almost certainly at this point, this is so complicated. From an economic this is so complicated. From an economic this is so complicated. From an economic standpoint, they should have should not standpoint, they should have should not standpoint, they should have should not have gotten involved. Maybe from a have gotten involved. Maybe from a have gotten involved. Maybe from a long-term safety perspective, they had long-term safety perspective, they had long-term safety perspective, they had to do it, but damn, economically, this to do it, but damn, economically, this to do it, but damn, economically, this one is not smart. So, one is not smart. So, one is not smart. So, >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> go ahead. >> We got to move. Okay. >> We got to move. Okay. >> We got to move. Okay. >> Um, productive. America should rebuild >> Um, productive. America should rebuild >> Um, productive. America should rebuild farming, manufacturing, craftsmanship farming, manufacturing, craftsmanship farming, manufacturing, craftsmanship while rejecting an economy dominated by while rejecting an economy dominated by while rejecting an economy dominated by finance, real estate, speculation, finance, real estate, speculation, finance, real estate, speculation, surveillance systems, and weapons. surveillance systems, and weapons. surveillance systems, and weapons. >> Facts. >> Facts. >> Facts. >> Beautiful. Carlson alleged that urban >> Beautiful. Carlson alleged that urban >> Beautiful. Carlson alleged that urban planners deliberately uglified American planners deliberately uglified American planners deliberately uglified American cities, especially uh Domino's and Pizza cities, especially uh Domino's and Pizza cities, especially uh Domino's and Pizza Hut. Remember the Pizza Huts with the Hut. Remember the Pizza Huts with the Hut. Remember the Pizza Huts with the building and the Taco Bells and building and the Taco Bells and building and the Taco Bells and McDonald's used to have play places? My McDonald's used to have play places? My McDonald's used to have play places? My bad. And portrayed brutality, brutalist bad. And portrayed brutality, brutalist bad. And portrayed brutality, brutalist architecture, graffiti, public drug use, architecture, graffiti, public drug use, architecture, graffiti, public drug use, and violent crime as deliberate attacks and violent crime as deliberate attacks and violent crime as deliberate attacks on the public. on the public. on the public. >> Um, this one gets complicated. Who's >> Um, this one gets complicated. Who's >> Um, this one gets complicated. Who's going to decide that it's beautiful? Th going to decide that it's beautiful? Th going to decide that it's beautiful? Th this is a cultural question. So, yes, I this is a cultural question. So, yes, I this is a cultural question. So, yes, I actually am startled by um how actually am startled by um how actually am startled by um how unattractive unattractive unattractive American cities are when you start going American cities are when you start going American cities are when you start going around the world. Dude, if you want to around the world. Dude, if you want to around the world. Dude, if you want to see a beautiful city, like just startle see a beautiful city, like just startle see a beautiful city, like just startle yourself with its beauty, uh go to yourself with its beauty, uh go to yourself with its beauty, uh go to London. Mh. London. Mh. London. Mh. >> London is unbelievable. >> London is unbelievable. >> London is unbelievable. The architecture there is incredible. The architecture there is incredible. The architecture there is incredible. You have a they they certainly are You have a they they certainly are You have a they they certainly are anchored by their historical past. So anchored by their historical past. So anchored by their historical past. So you have all those incredible buildings, you have all those incredible buildings, you have all those incredible buildings, but they're not so wed to it that they but they're not so wed to it that they but they're not so wed to it that they don't start creating some of the most don't start creating some of the most don't start creating some of the most beautiful um skyscrapers the world has beautiful um skyscrapers the world has beautiful um skyscrapers the world has ever seen. I mean, it's it is it is a ever seen. I mean, it's it is it is a ever seen. I mean, it's it is it is a truly astonishing city that has done truly astonishing city that has done truly astonishing city that has done this amazing job of blending the old and this amazing job of blending the old and this amazing job of blending the old and the new. Um, America has not pulled that the new. Um, America has not pulled that the new. Um, America has not pulled that off. So, there's something in our psyche off. So, there's something in our psyche off. So, there's something in our psyche that is just not bringing about things that is just not bringing about things that is just not bringing about things that are beautiful. Now, I don't want to that are beautiful. Now, I don't want to that are beautiful. Now, I don't want to see a call back to everything has to be see a call back to everything has to be see a call back to everything has to be like Renaissance architecture. That's like Renaissance architecture. That's like Renaissance architecture. That's not where my mind is. Look at China. not where my mind is. Look at China. not where my mind is. Look at China. China's doing extraordinary things with China's doing extraordinary things with China's doing extraordinary things with their city. I mean, they are just like their city. I mean, they are just like their city. I mean, they are just like the it's not quite solar punk, but if the it's not quite solar punk, but if the it's not quite solar punk, but if people understand cyberpunk is always people understand cyberpunk is always people understand cyberpunk is always meant to show the beauty in the like meant to show the beauty in the like meant to show the beauty in the like technology and the the apocalypse of it technology and the the apocalypse of it technology and the the apocalypse of it all, but that it's still beautiful. all, but that it's still beautiful. all, but that it's still beautiful. That's not what they're doing. What That's not what they're doing. What That's not what they're doing. What they're doing is very much um taking the they're doing is very much um taking the they're doing is very much um taking the beauty of technology and really making beauty of technology and really making beauty of technology and really making these incredible cities that are meant these incredible cities that are meant these incredible cities that are meant to be a spectacle. And so you see them, to be a spectacle. And so you see them, to be a spectacle. And so you see them, they're extraordinary. Um Japan has they're extraordinary. Um Japan has they're extraordinary. Um Japan has something very similar. I don't think something very similar. I don't think something very similar. I don't think their cities have quite achieved what their cities have quite achieved what their cities have quite achieved what China has managed to achieve, but again, China has managed to achieve, but again, China has managed to achieve, but again, you're there and it just it feels so you're there and it just it feels so you're there and it just it feels so incredible this mix of the old and new. incredible this mix of the old and new. incredible this mix of the old and new. Um, so yeah, I I would say that America Um, so yeah, I I would say that America Um, so yeah, I I would say that America is not achieving the same levels of sort is not achieving the same levels of sort is not achieving the same levels of sort of profoundity on an aesthetic level. of profoundity on an aesthetic level. of profoundity on an aesthetic level. Um, but I doubt very much that Carlson Um, but I doubt very much that Carlson Um, but I doubt very much that Carlson and I are going to agree on what is and I are going to agree on what is and I are going to agree on what is beautiful. So, take that for what it's beautiful. So, take that for what it's beautiful. So, take that for what it's worth. worth. worth. >> Healthy Carlson embraced RFK Junior's >> Healthy Carlson embraced RFK Junior's >> Healthy Carlson embraced RFK Junior's food agenda. most of it calling for food agenda. most of it calling for food agenda. most of it calling for universal sobriety and said widespread universal sobriety and said widespread universal sobriety and said widespread use of drugs such as Xanax, aderall, and use of drugs such as Xanax, aderall, and use of drugs such as Xanax, aderall, and SSRI have left Americans half adult. SSRI have left Americans half adult. SSRI have left Americans half adult. >> All right, so this is the best one that >> All right, so this is the best one that >> All right, so this is the best one that is a mix of um brilliant and unhinged. is a mix of um brilliant and unhinged. is a mix of um brilliant and unhinged. So now I haven't gone deep enough to So now I haven't gone deep enough to So now I haven't gone deep enough to know if he means what I think he means know if he means what I think he means know if he means what I think he means with universal sobriety. Bro, we tried with universal sobriety. Bro, we tried with universal sobriety. Bro, we tried that [ __ ] that [ __ ] that [ __ ] >> That that's a summation. I think the >> That that's a summation. I think the >> That that's a summation. I think the point is he was making the point that point is he was making the point that point is he was making the point that you can be on Xanax, you can be on you can be on Xanax, you can be on you can be on Xanax, you can be on aderall, nobody cares, but if you're on aderall, nobody cares, but if you're on aderall, nobody cares, but if you're on weed, we're going to look at you funny. weed, we're going to look at you funny. weed, we're going to look at you funny. And he's like, "But we're still And he's like, "But we're still And he's like, "But we're still self-medicating. We're still self-medicating. We're still self-medicating. We're still >> If you tell me universal sobriety, that >> If you tell me universal sobriety, that >> If you tell me universal sobriety, that sounds like somebody sounds like somebody sounds like somebody >> That wasn't a quote. That was the Axios >> That wasn't a quote. That was the Axios >> That wasn't a quote. That was the Axios person like person like person like summing that up." summing that up." summing that up." >> Okay. So, >> Okay. So, >> Okay. So, >> I just don't want you to get caught in >> I just don't want you to get caught in >> I just don't want you to get caught in the universal sobriety. And the universal sobriety. And the universal sobriety. And >> I want to get caught in the universal >> I want to get caught in the universal >> I want to get caught in the universal sobriety. Precisely. But if it's sobriety. Precisely. But if it's sobriety. Precisely. But if it's inaccurate, I want you to keep pushing inaccurate, I want you to keep pushing inaccurate, I want you to keep pushing back. But here, so I have a mental map back. But here, so I have a mental map back. But here, so I have a mental map of Carlson. Um, I believe that he is a of Carlson. Um, I believe that he is a of Carlson. Um, I believe that he is a WWE character. We don't know who he WWE character. We don't know who he WWE character. We don't know who he really is. Um, he will switch positions. really is. Um, he will switch positions. really is. Um, he will switch positions. based on which way the wind is blowing. based on which way the wind is blowing. based on which way the wind is blowing. I don't know what's really in his heart. I don't know what's really in his heart. I don't know what's really in his heart. I definitely don't trust him. Um I I definitely don't trust him. Um I I definitely don't trust him. Um I haven't done like some extensive deep haven't done like some extensive deep haven't done like some extensive deep dive on him. But he strikes me as dive on him. But he strikes me as dive on him. But he strikes me as somebody who once he believes something somebody who once he believes something somebody who once he believes something is right, he wants it universally um is right, he wants it universally um is right, he wants it universally um pushed out. Um how far he's willing to pushed out. Um how far he's willing to pushed out. Um how far he's willing to go to get people to fall in line. That's go to get people to fall in line. That's go to get people to fall in line. That's the question for me. So now I get to the question for me. So now I get to the question for me. So now I get to this where it's like, okay, are you this where it's like, okay, are you this where it's like, okay, are you saying, "Hey everybody, your lives would saying, "Hey everybody, your lives would saying, "Hey everybody, your lives would be a lot better if you ate healthy and be a lot better if you ate healthy and be a lot better if you ate healthy and you weren't taking pharmaceutical drugs you weren't taking pharmaceutical drugs you weren't taking pharmaceutical drugs and all that." Cool. I totally sign off and all that." Cool. I totally sign off and all that." Cool. I totally sign off on that. But if a reasonable summation on that. But if a reasonable summation on that. But if a reasonable summation of what he's pushing for is universal of what he's pushing for is universal of what he's pushing for is universal sobriety, then it's like that is that sobriety, then it's like that is that sobriety, then it's like that is that gets into a very important question. So, gets into a very important question. So, gets into a very important question. So, um, um, um, Jordan Peterson once got pillered for Jordan Peterson once got pillered for Jordan Peterson once got pillered for saying that monogamy should be saying that monogamy should be saying that monogamy should be culturally enforced and then people culturally enforced and then people culturally enforced and then people stripped out culturally and they just stripped out culturally and they just stripped out culturally and they just went enforced. Now, if you're saying went enforced. Now, if you're saying went enforced. Now, if you're saying that this should be culturally enforced, that this should be culturally enforced, that this should be culturally enforced, that people should look at you funny that people should look at you funny that people should look at you funny when you're smoking weed, they should when you're smoking weed, they should when you're smoking weed, they should look at you funny when you're getting look at you funny when you're getting look at you funny when you're getting drunk, but there should be no law drunk, but there should be no law drunk, but there should be no law against it. Of course, you should be against it. Of course, you should be against it. Of course, you should be able to smoke weed if you want, you able to smoke weed if you want, you able to smoke weed if you want, you should be able to drink alcohol if you should be able to drink alcohol if you should be able to drink alcohol if you want, but like everybody should be want, but like everybody should be want, but like everybody should be looking at you sideways, then I'm here looking at you sideways, then I'm here looking at you sideways, then I'm here for it. Um, I do think that humans live for it. Um, I do think that humans live for it. Um, I do think that humans live a wildly unhealthy life these days. I a wildly unhealthy life these days. I a wildly unhealthy life these days. I It's absolutely mad. Uh, I think that we It's absolutely mad. Uh, I think that we It's absolutely mad. Uh, I think that we should bring shame back to being just um should bring shame back to being just um should bring shame back to being just um completely obese and and not like completely obese and and not like completely obese and and not like holding yourself accountable to like holding yourself accountable to like holding yourself accountable to like your body is a reflection of how well your body is a reflection of how well your body is a reflection of how well you're taking care of yourself. It's a you're taking care of yourself. It's a you're taking care of yourself. It's a reflection of how disciplined you are in reflection of how disciplined you are in reflection of how disciplined you are in your mind. And so like on that one, not your mind. And so like on that one, not your mind. And so like on that one, not that people aren't worthy of love. They that people aren't worthy of love. They that people aren't worthy of love. They are. I come from a morbidly obese are. I come from a morbidly obese are. I come from a morbidly obese family. I could not love them anymore if family. I could not love them anymore if family. I could not love them anymore if I tried. But should they be like, "Fuck, I tried. But should they be like, "Fuck, I tried. But should they be like, "Fuck, I need to get this together." Yes, 100%. I need to get this together." Yes, 100%. I need to get this together." Yes, 100%. It's like people should take care of It's like people should take care of It's like people should take care of their body as a temple anyway. So when their body as a temple anyway. So when their body as a temple anyway. So when you look at that um it really does come you look at that um it really does come you look at that um it really does come down to what is the right way to down to what is the right way to down to what is the right way to summarize his views given that he is not summarize his views given that he is not summarize his views given that he is not somebody that I trust very much to be a somebody that I trust very much to be a somebody that I trust very much to be a sincere uh speaker. I worry that this is sincere uh speaker. I worry that this is sincere uh speaker. I worry that this is him trying to sort of cram down um him trying to sort of cram down um him trying to sort of cram down um something that has failed every time in something that has failed every time in something that has failed every time in the past. What I don't see in him that the past. What I don't see in him that the past. What I don't see in him that everyone I think should uh take on board everyone I think should uh take on board everyone I think should uh take on board is my way of doing something isn't quote is my way of doing something isn't quote is my way of doing something isn't quote unquote right. It's just my way. So for unquote right. It's just my way. So for unquote right. It's just my way. So for instance, if my family or anybody else instance, if my family or anybody else instance, if my family or anybody else pushed back on me and said, "But this is pushed back on me and said, "But this is pushed back on me and said, "But this is how I want to live and I love my how I want to live and I love my how I want to live and I love my lifestyle and yes, I'm going to shorten lifestyle and yes, I'm going to shorten lifestyle and yes, I'm going to shorten my life, but I get so much pleasure out my life, but I get so much pleasure out my life, but I get so much pleasure out of the way that I'm living." I'd be of the way that I'm living." I'd be of the way that I'm living." I'd be like, "Yeah, cool. Then do it." Um I've like, "Yeah, cool. Then do it." Um I've like, "Yeah, cool. Then do it." Um I've always said that I don't mind an obese always said that I don't mind an obese always said that I don't mind an obese person eating ice cream. They should do person eating ice cream. They should do person eating ice cream. They should do whatever they want. What makes me sad is whatever they want. What makes me sad is whatever they want. What makes me sad is when the obese person eating ice cream when the obese person eating ice cream when the obese person eating ice cream is crying about it. is crying about it. is crying about it. >> That's the only thing that doesn't make >> That's the only thing that doesn't make >> That's the only thing that doesn't make sense. Eat the ice cream and be stoked sense. Eat the ice cream and be stoked sense. Eat the ice cream and be stoked about it. Don't eat the ice cream about it. Don't eat the ice cream about it. Don't eat the ice cream because you know it's not good for you. because you know it's not good for you. because you know it's not good for you. Cool. Either one of those choices works Cool. Either one of those choices works Cool. Either one of those choices works for me. Um is sort of being somewhere in for me. Um is sort of being somewhere in for me. Um is sort of being somewhere in the middle. So yeah, this comes down to the middle. So yeah, this comes down to the middle. So yeah, this comes down to what he's trying to do with his health what he's trying to do with his health what he's trying to do with his health agenda. agenda. agenda. >> Um honest government officials should be >> Um honest government officials should be >> Um honest government officials should be punished for lying to citizens. Most punished for lying to citizens. Most punished for lying to citizens. Most classified records, including the JFK classified records, including the JFK classified records, including the JFK assassination and 9/11, should be assassination and 9/11, should be assassination and 9/11, should be opened. Yeah, that's insane. So, uh, I opened. Yeah, that's insane. So, uh, I opened. Yeah, that's insane. So, uh, I love the idea of opening the JFK love the idea of opening the JFK love the idea of opening the JFK assassination files, literally every assassination files, literally every assassination files, literally every single word. Uh, I love 911. Let people single word. Uh, I love 911. Let people single word. Uh, I love 911. Let people go through all of it, making the vast go through all of it, making the vast go through all of it, making the vast majority of things something that people majority of things something that people majority of things something that people can view, I love it. Um, can view, I love it. Um, can view, I love it. Um, if somebody purges themselves, it's if somebody purges themselves, it's if somebody purges themselves, it's already illegal. So, if he's saying we already illegal. So, if he's saying we already illegal. So, if he's saying we should enforce the laws that are already should enforce the laws that are already should enforce the laws that are already on the books, I love that. If what he's on the books, I love that. If what he's on the books, I love that. If what he's saying is there needs to be an arbiter saying is there needs to be an arbiter saying is there needs to be an arbiter of what is true, we need a ministry of of what is true, we need a ministry of of what is true, we need a ministry of truth, then that is psychotic. And the truth, then that is psychotic. And the truth, then that is psychotic. And the number of times that people keep number of times that people keep number of times that people keep bringing this [ __ ] up, I'm like, bringing this [ __ ] up, I'm like, bringing this [ __ ] up, I'm like, [ __ ] Most things are almost [ __ ] Most things are almost [ __ ] Most things are almost impossible to determine if they are impossible to determine if they are impossible to determine if they are quote unquote true. This is why you quote unquote true. This is why you quote unquote true. This is why you don't want a Ministry of Truth. You don't want a Ministry of Truth. You don't want a Ministry of Truth. You don't want people um saying that don't want people um saying that don't want people um saying that disinformation should be illegal. That disinformation should be illegal. That disinformation should be illegal. That [ __ ] is crazy, dude. Remember COVID when [ __ ] is crazy, dude. Remember COVID when [ __ ] is crazy, dude. Remember COVID when people were saying the XYZ thing was a people were saying the XYZ thing was a people were saying the XYZ thing was a lie? Now, forget the people that were lie? Now, forget the people that were lie? Now, forget the people that were just trying to do a blanket grab for just trying to do a blanket grab for just trying to do a blanket grab for power and think about the people that power and think about the people that power and think about the people that actually believed it. They actually actually believed it. They actually actually believed it. They actually believe this is obviously true that um believe this is obviously true that um believe this is obviously true that um whatever your thing is, Ivormekin is whatever your thing is, Ivormekin is whatever your thing is, Ivormekin is obviously a horse dewormer. It should obviously a horse dewormer. It should obviously a horse dewormer. It should obviously not be used by humans. And obviously not be used by humans. And obviously not be used by humans. And let's say they actually believe it. And let's say they actually believe it. And let's say they actually believe it. And now they're like, I want that guy now they're like, I want that guy now they're like, I want that guy prosecuted for lying. It's like, hold on prosecuted for lying. It's like, hold on prosecuted for lying. It's like, hold on a second. That person actually believes a second. That person actually believes a second. That person actually believes what they are saying. And since there what they are saying. And since there what they are saying. And since there will be no way to prove whether they are will be no way to prove whether they are will be no way to prove whether they are saying it as a lie or they're saying saying it as a lie or they're saying saying it as a lie or they're saying something you think is a lie but is something you think is a lie but is something you think is a lie but is actually something they sincerely actually something they sincerely actually something they sincerely believe. You won't be able to tell the believe. You won't be able to tell the believe. You won't be able to tell the difference. I don't want people being difference. I don't want people being difference. I don't want people being pursued for that. You want politicians pursued for that. You want politicians pursued for that. You want politicians to be able to say what they believe is to be able to say what they believe is to be able to say what they believe is true. And to do that you must run the true. And to do that you must run the true. And to do that you must run the risk that they are lying. Now if you put risk that they are lying. Now if you put risk that they are lying. Now if you put them under oath and they perjure them under oath and they perjure them under oath and they perjure themselves and you can prove it, themselves and you can prove it, themselves and you can prove it, obviously there's already a law and you obviously there's already a law and you obviously there's already a law and you should obviously pursue people that should obviously pursue people that should obviously pursue people that perjury themselves. So, I want to be perjury themselves. So, I want to be perjury themselves. So, I want to be very clear about that. But yeah, this very clear about that. But yeah, this very clear about that. But yeah, this gets into Ministry of Truth stuff, and gets into Ministry of Truth stuff, and gets into Ministry of Truth stuff, and that worries me tremendously. that worries me tremendously. that worries me tremendously. >> Optimistic, Carlson argued that having >> Optimistic, Carlson argued that having >> Optimistic, Carlson argued that having children is a biological imperative and children is a biological imperative and children is a biological imperative and the foundation of long-term thinking the foundation of long-term thinking the foundation of long-term thinking while blaming aging and childless elites while blaming aging and childless elites while blaming aging and childless elites for policies that disregard future for policies that disregard future for policies that disregard future generations. generations. generations. >> Okay, so um we definitely should be >> Okay, so um we definitely should be >> Okay, so um we definitely should be optimistic. That's critically important. optimistic. That's critically important. optimistic. That's critically important. That's something I hope that I can That's something I hope that I can That's something I hope that I can breathe a little bit of life into, breathe a little bit of life into, breathe a little bit of life into, reminding people that the pursuit of reminding people that the pursuit of reminding people that the pursuit of greatness is awesome. uh that being able greatness is awesome. uh that being able greatness is awesome. uh that being able to push yourself to your absolute limits to push yourself to your absolute limits to push yourself to your absolute limits to do extraordinary things is a core to do extraordinary things is a core to do extraordinary things is a core part of who we are as Americans. It is part of who we are as Americans. It is part of who we are as Americans. It is very possible. The world is an very possible. The world is an very possible. The world is an incredible place. Uh so yeah, I incredible place. Uh so yeah, I incredible place. Uh so yeah, I definitely want to see that. Um I would definitely want to see that. Um I would definitely want to see that. Um I would love to see having kids be more love to see having kids be more love to see having kids be more celebrated. I did not have kids, but celebrated. I did not have kids, but celebrated. I did not have kids, but nonetheless, I celebrate other people nonetheless, I celebrate other people nonetheless, I celebrate other people having kids. I think it's wonderful. I having kids. I think it's wonderful. I having kids. I think it's wonderful. I think it is a biological imperative. I think it is a biological imperative. I think it is a biological imperative. I think for the vast majority of humans, think for the vast majority of humans, think for the vast majority of humans, it is absolutely the path that they will it is absolutely the path that they will it is absolutely the path that they will find the deepest fulfillment out of. And find the deepest fulfillment out of. And find the deepest fulfillment out of. And so doing things whether that's from a so doing things whether that's from a so doing things whether that's from a tax perspective or just culturally doing tax perspective or just culturally doing tax perspective or just culturally doing more to celebrate it to thank parents more to celebrate it to thank parents more to celebrate it to thank parents for being parents. I think all of that's for being parents. I think all of that's for being parents. I think all of that's incredible. Uh the one thing obviously I incredible. Uh the one thing obviously I incredible. Uh the one thing obviously I will take exception to because I find will take exception to because I find will take exception to because I find myself in this situation is assuming myself in this situation is assuming myself in this situation is assuming that just because somebody is aging and that just because somebody is aging and that just because somebody is aging and doesn't have a kid doesn't mean that doesn't have a kid doesn't mean that doesn't have a kid doesn't mean that they can't see what is actually good for they can't see what is actually good for they can't see what is actually good for kids. Um, now I do think that everybody, kids. Um, now I do think that everybody, kids. Um, now I do think that everybody, especially politicians, should be aimed especially politicians, should be aimed especially politicians, should be aimed at what's going to be good for the next at what's going to be good for the next at what's going to be good for the next generation. As a culture, we should be generation. As a culture, we should be generation. As a culture, we should be holding people accountable to that and holding people accountable to that and holding people accountable to that and asking those direct questions. How is asking those direct questions. How is asking those direct questions. How is this policy going to benefit people 20 this policy going to benefit people 20 this policy going to benefit people 20 years from now, 40 years from now, 50 years from now, 40 years from now, 50 years from now, 40 years from now, 50 years from now? Um, I think is really years from now? Um, I think is really years from now? Um, I think is really good and it orients everybody towards good and it orients everybody towards good and it orients everybody towards the future. This is also one of the the future. This is also one of the the future. This is also one of the reasons that I hope that we really can reasons that I hope that we really can reasons that I hope that we really can radically extend human life so that radically extend human life so that radically extend human life so that we'll find people just now I can just we'll find people just now I can just we'll find people just now I can just trust them to be selfish. They don't trust them to be selfish. They don't trust them to be selfish. They don't want the world to suck because they're want the world to suck because they're want the world to suck because they're going to be here. Um, so that would be going to be here. Um, so that would be going to be here. Um, so that would be another way that we take care of that. another way that we take care of that. another way that we take care of that. But yes, agreed. Optimism for Schwees. But yes, agreed. Optimism for Schwees. But yes, agreed. Optimism for Schwees. >> Uh, why schools should teach people how >> Uh, why schools should teach people how >> Uh, why schools should teach people how the physical world actually works and the physical world actually works and the physical world actually works and what he called unchanging facts about what he called unchanging facts about what he called unchanging facts about human nature, including innate human nature, including innate human nature, including innate differences between men and women rather differences between men and women rather differences between men and women rather than credential screen and technological than credential screen and technological than credential screen and technological fads. fads. fads. >> Yeah, this is fullon Carfax. Like >> Yeah, this is fullon Carfax. Like >> Yeah, this is fullon Carfax. Like absolutely 100% cause and effect. Humans absolutely 100% cause and effect. Humans absolutely 100% cause and effect. Humans have nature. Figure it out. Otherwise, have nature. Figure it out. Otherwise, have nature. Figure it out. Otherwise, you're going to be in dire trouble. And you're going to be in dire trouble. And you're going to be in dire trouble. And just going back to like virtue and just going back to like virtue and just going back to like virtue and wisdom, like things that we used to wisdom, like things that we used to wisdom, like things that we used to celebrate and really be like, "Yo, this celebrate and really be like, "Yo, this celebrate and really be like, "Yo, this is how you should be." We should be like is how you should be." We should be like is how you should be." We should be like hitting kids with that when they're hitting kids with that when they're hitting kids with that when they're young, a thousand% telling them, "You young, a thousand% telling them, "You young, a thousand% telling them, "You should aspire to this. Uh, you should be should aspire to this. Uh, you should be should aspire to this. Uh, you should be an honorable person. You should have an honorable person. You should have an honorable person. You should have virtue. You should strive for wisdom." virtue. You should strive for wisdom." virtue. You should strive for wisdom." Um, I think that's extremely good. Um, I think that's extremely good. Um, I think that's extremely good. >> Number nine, decent. The US should >> Number nine, decent. The US should >> Number nine, decent. The US should apologize and pay restitution for apologize and pay restitution for apologize and pay restitution for killing non-combatants, reverse Trump's killing non-combatants, reverse Trump's killing non-combatants, reverse Trump's Department of War rebrand, and stop Department of War rebrand, and stop Department of War rebrand, and stop funding allies that commit what Carlson funding allies that commit what Carlson funding allies that commit what Carlson called genocide. So, I definitely think called genocide. So, I definitely think called genocide. So, I definitely think we should be decent. I definitely think we should be decent. I definitely think we should be decent. I definitely think that we should try to be the most moral that we should try to be the most moral that we should try to be the most moral nation on earth. I think that we should nation on earth. I think that we should nation on earth. I think that we should be able to articulate what our morality be able to articulate what our morality be able to articulate what our morality is. And I think that our behavior should is. And I think that our behavior should is. And I think that our behavior should be in alignment with what we say our be in alignment with what we say our be in alignment with what we say our morality actually is. I want us to morality actually is. I want us to morality actually is. I want us to return to be the shining beacon on the return to be the shining beacon on the return to be the shining beacon on the hill. I want us to be a place of hope. I hill. I want us to be a place of hope. I hill. I want us to be a place of hope. I want us to be a place where the best and want us to be a place where the best and want us to be a place where the best and the brightest the world over want to the brightest the world over want to the brightest the world over want to come to. That is a thousand% what we come to. That is a thousand% what we come to. That is a thousand% what we should be striving for. Now, the idea of should be striving for. Now, the idea of should be striving for. Now, the idea of creating a absolutely ridiculous creating a absolutely ridiculous creating a absolutely ridiculous incentive structure that will be incentive structure that will be incentive structure that will be completely impossible to prove where completely impossible to prove where completely impossible to prove where we're going around hatinand humbly we're going around hatinand humbly we're going around hatinand humbly asking for forgiveness and saying that asking for forgiveness and saying that asking for forgiveness and saying that we want to pay restitution. That is a we want to pay restitution. That is a we want to pay restitution. That is a recipe for disaster. Now, that doesn't recipe for disaster. Now, that doesn't recipe for disaster. Now, that doesn't mean that we should want to repeat the mean that we should want to repeat the mean that we should want to repeat the problems that we have created in the problems that we have created in the problems that we have created in the past, but the amount of evil that's past, but the amount of evil that's past, but the amount of evil that's being done in the world all the time is being done in the world all the time is being done in the world all the time is staggering. And so, um, if we're going staggering. And so, um, if we're going staggering. And so, um, if we're going to get into this tit fortat thing, to get into this tit fortat thing, to get into this tit fortat thing, you'll find everybody ends up paying you'll find everybody ends up paying you'll find everybody ends up paying everybody else and it just starts to be everybody else and it just starts to be everybody else and it just starts to be absolutely ridiculous. Uh, how far back absolutely ridiculous. Uh, how far back absolutely ridiculous. Uh, how far back do you go? Blah blah blah. This gets do you go? Blah blah blah. This gets do you go? Blah blah blah. This gets into the Israel Palestine of it all. It into the Israel Palestine of it all. It into the Israel Palestine of it all. It devolves into absolute utter madness. devolves into absolute utter madness. devolves into absolute utter madness. You will never be able to disentangle You will never be able to disentangle You will never be able to disentangle these things. And so, this has got to be these things. And so, this has got to be these things. And so, this has got to be we draw a line in the sand and we say, we draw a line in the sand and we say, we draw a line in the sand and we say, "Listen, we don't like where America's "Listen, we don't like where America's "Listen, we don't like where America's gotten to. We're going to be different. gotten to. We're going to be different. gotten to. We're going to be different. We're going to um document out who we We're going to um document out who we We're going to um document out who we think we are." like think of this as us think we are." like think of this as us think we are." like think of this as us renewing our vows. Uh and so yes, I renewing our vows. Uh and so yes, I renewing our vows. Uh and so yes, I think that we should re-establish, think that we should re-establish, think that we should re-establish, reassert, and teach uh the values to reassert, and teach uh the values to reassert, and teach uh the values to kids of what America actually ought to kids of what America actually ought to kids of what America actually ought to be. I think that's absolutely be. I think that's absolutely be. I think that's absolutely extraordinary. Um but he must know how extraordinary. Um but he must know how extraordinary. Um but he must know how [ __ ] that would be in reality to run [ __ ] that would be in reality to run [ __ ] that would be in reality to run around trying to pay restitutions. Um, around trying to pay restitutions. Um, around trying to pay restitutions. Um, and United Carlson called for halting and United Carlson called for halting and United Carlson called for halting immigration until the effects of AI immigration until the effects of AI immigration until the effects of AI become clear, ending benefits for become clear, ending benefits for become clear, ending benefits for undocumented immigrants and making undocumented immigrants and making undocumented immigrants and making English the sole language of federal English the sole language of federal English the sole language of federal documents and ballots. documents and ballots. documents and ballots. >> Yep, I'm here for that. Um, I think that >> Yep, I'm here for that. Um, I think that >> Yep, I'm here for that. Um, I think that that is very wise to I don't know if that is very wise to I don't know if that is very wise to I don't know if we're going to halt immigration. I we're going to halt immigration. I we're going to halt immigration. I wouldn't put forward halting wouldn't put forward halting wouldn't put forward halting immigration, but I would put forward uh immigration, but I would put forward uh immigration, but I would put forward uh being very strict on immigration, having being very strict on immigration, having being very strict on immigration, having a set of traits that we are trying to a set of traits that we are trying to a set of traits that we are trying to attract. only let people in that match attract. only let people in that match attract. only let people in that match those traits and no being white isn't those traits and no being white isn't those traits and no being white isn't one of them since I know that that's one of them since I know that that's one of them since I know that that's exactly what people are going to think I exactly what people are going to think I exactly what people are going to think I mean I'm talking economics man I want mean I'm talking economics man I want mean I'm talking economics man I want smart people I want high IQ smart people I want high IQ smart people I want high IQ entrepreneurial [ __ ] from entrepreneurial [ __ ] from entrepreneurial [ __ ] from everywhere to call America their home I everywhere to call America their home I everywhere to call America their home I want to focus on how do we grow the want to focus on how do we grow the want to focus on how do we grow the middle class how do we make sure that middle class how do we make sure that middle class how do we make sure that the middle [ __ ] class is making more the middle [ __ ] class is making more the middle [ __ ] class is making more money because we are building [ __ ] in money because we are building [ __ ] in money because we are building [ __ ] in America I want that entrepreneurial America I want that entrepreneurial America I want that entrepreneurial spirit man that's what I want I want spirit man that's what I want I want spirit man that's what I want I want people who are like hell Yeah, I want to people who are like hell Yeah, I want to people who are like hell Yeah, I want to pick myself up by my bootstraps. I want pick myself up by my bootstraps. I want pick myself up by my bootstraps. I want people who say, "Yes, my life is a people who say, "Yes, my life is a people who say, "Yes, my life is a reflection of my choices." That's what reflection of my choices." That's what reflection of my choices." That's what I'm looking for. I could not [ __ ] I'm looking for. I could not [ __ ] I'm looking for. I could not [ __ ] care less about what your skin color is, care less about what your skin color is, care less about what your skin color is, baby. I just want you on board with the baby. I just want you on board with the baby. I just want you on board with the uh not the American dream is it became uh not the American dream is it became uh not the American dream is it became just about houses, but the American just about houses, but the American just about houses, but the American dream of it doesn't matter where I dream of it doesn't matter where I dream of it doesn't matter where I start. It only matters where I want to start. It only matters where I want to start. It only matters where I want to go and the price I'm willing to pay to go and the price I'm willing to pay to go and the price I'm willing to pay to get there. And I want to see us be that get there. And I want to see us be that get there. And I want to see us be that beacon, that place that people come for beacon, that place that people come for beacon, that place that people come for that. Now we speak English. So yes, I that. Now we speak English. So yes, I that. Now we speak English. So yes, I want to see I want to do anything we can want to see I want to do anything we can want to see I want to do anything we can to force assimilation. I want to get to force assimilation. I want to get to force assimilation. I want to get people back in the mode of I have come people back in the mode of I have come people back in the mode of I have come to America because I want to be to America because I want to be to America because I want to be American. That means we're going to have American. That means we're going to have American. That means we're going to have to define what being American is up to to define what being American is up to to define what being American is up to and including uh the fact that we and including uh the fact that we and including uh the fact that we believe that there is a spark of believe that there is a spark of believe that there is a spark of divinity in the individual. And so the divinity in the individual. And so the divinity in the individual. And so the individual is the thing that we need to individual is the thing that we need to individual is the thing that we need to most protect. We need to make sure that most protect. We need to make sure that most protect. We need to make sure that people can have property rights that we people can have property rights that we people can have property rights that we understand that humans tend towards understand that humans tend towards understand that humans tend towards tyranny. And so we need to protect tyranny. And so we need to protect tyranny. And so we need to protect ourselves from that. So we need a Senate ourselves from that. So we need a Senate ourselves from that. So we need a Senate and a Congress that are elected in and a Congress that are elected in and a Congress that are elected in different ways so that they can hold different ways so that they can hold different ways so that they can hold each other in dynamic tension. All of each other in dynamic tension. All of each other in dynamic tension. All of that stuff. Those things are incredibly that stuff. Those things are incredibly that stuff. Those things are incredibly important. Um but yeah, there we will important. Um but yeah, there we will important. Um but yeah, there we will have to be very very thoughtful. Uh you have to be very very thoughtful. Uh you have to be very very thoughtful. Uh you don't want a xenophobic immigration don't want a xenophobic immigration don't want a xenophobic immigration policy. You don't want to pretend that policy. You don't want to pretend that policy. You don't want to pretend that people aren't coming here to remake this people aren't coming here to remake this people aren't coming here to remake this in their own image. And you don't want in their own image. And you don't want in their own image. And you don't want to pretend that people just accidentally to pretend that people just accidentally to pretend that people just accidentally assimilate. They don't. You're going to assimilate. They don't. You're going to assimilate. They don't. You're going to have to have assimilation pressure. And have to have assimilation pressure. And have to have assimilation pressure. And you're going to need to give yourself you're going to need to give yourself you're going to need to give yourself pauses to make sure that people are pauses to make sure that people are pauses to make sure that people are actually assimilating. actually assimilating. actually assimilating. All right, moving on. Trump has just All right, moving on. Trump has just All right, moving on. Trump has just signed two major executive orders signed two major executive orders signed two major executive orders disqualifying large amount of legals disqualifying large amount of legals disqualifying large amount of legals from receiving birthright citizenship from receiving birthright citizenship from receiving birthright citizenship using the Supreme Court's own ruling. using the Supreme Court's own ruling. using the Supreme Court's own ruling. that includes, for example, alien that includes, for example, alien that includes, for example, alien enemies of the United States, members of enemies of the United States, members of enemies of the United States, members of foreign terrorist organizations, and foreign terrorist organizations, and foreign terrorist organizations, and large categories of people who lobby and large categories of people who lobby and large categories of people who lobby and act on behalf of foreign governments per act on behalf of foreign governments per act on behalf of foreign governments per Steven Miller. He also highlighted the Steven Miller. He also highlighted the Steven Miller. He also highlighted the end of birth tourism, which is coming to end of birth tourism, which is coming to end of birth tourism, which is coming to America to have a baby so that way you America to have a baby so that way you America to have a baby so that way you can you yourself can have an American can you yourself can have an American can you yourself can have an American citizen. Um, there's a citizen. Um, there's a citizen. Um, there's a >> you yourself can have an American >> you yourself can have an American >> you yourself can have an American citizen. citizen. citizen. >> That's you're not going to get enough >> That's you're not going to get enough >> That's you're not going to get enough credit for that. That was a good line. credit for that. That was a good line. credit for that. That was a good line. >> That's Thank you. >> That's Thank you. >> That's Thank you. >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, yeah, thoughts. yeah, thoughts. yeah, thoughts. >> I got all kinds of thoughts. >> I got all kinds of thoughts. >> I got all kinds of thoughts. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> All right. So, Trump is really out here >> All right. So, Trump is really out here >> All right. So, Trump is really out here trying to make birthright citizen not a trying to make birthright citizen not a trying to make birthright citizen not a thing anymore, regardless of what the thing anymore, regardless of what the thing anymore, regardless of what the Supreme Court decision was. He signed Supreme Court decision was. He signed Supreme Court decision was. He signed two executive orders on Thursday, both two executive orders on Thursday, both two executive orders on Thursday, both targeted at curbing birthright targeted at curbing birthright targeted at curbing birthright citizenship. The second one is directly citizenship. The second one is directly citizenship. The second one is directly trying to stop birth tourism. Now, the trying to stop birth tourism. Now, the trying to stop birth tourism. Now, the order defines birth tourism as entering order defines birth tourism as entering order defines birth tourism as entering the United States on a non-immigrant the United States on a non-immigrant the United States on a non-immigrant visa for the purpose of giving birth on visa for the purpose of giving birth on visa for the purpose of giving birth on American soil. It also covers anyone who American soil. It also covers anyone who American soil. It also covers anyone who facilitates that entry. Now, I will facilitates that entry. Now, I will facilitates that entry. Now, I will remind people as we go through this that remind people as we go through this that remind people as we go through this that if you are a foreign nation and you want if you are a foreign nation and you want if you are a foreign nation and you want to get people into the wealthiest to get people into the wealthiest to get people into the wealthiest country the world has ever created and country the world has ever created and country the world has ever created and you realize, wait, these guys will let you realize, wait, these guys will let you realize, wait, these guys will let me come in, give birth, take the kid, me come in, give birth, take the kid, me come in, give birth, take the kid, raise them somewhere else, and then at a raise them somewhere else, and then at a raise them somewhere else, and then at a time of my choosing, I'm going to be time of my choosing, I'm going to be time of my choosing, I'm going to be able to send them back. Dude, that is able to send them back. Dude, that is able to send them back. Dude, that is dope. If I'm one of those countries, I'm dope. If I'm one of those countries, I'm dope. If I'm one of those countries, I'm like, "Hell yeah, let's go." All right, like, "Hell yeah, let's go." All right, like, "Hell yeah, let's go." All right, think about this. Hassan [ __ ] is one of think about this. Hassan [ __ ] is one of think about this. Hassan [ __ ] is one of the most influential voices in the the most influential voices in the the most influential voices in the socialist movement. But he didn't grow socialist movement. But he didn't grow socialist movement. But he didn't grow up in America. And so, same thing. Born up in America. And so, same thing. Born up in America. And so, same thing. Born on US soil, is a US citizen, gets raised on US soil, is a US citizen, gets raised on US soil, is a US citizen, gets raised in Turkey, brought back, and now brings in Turkey, brought back, and now brings in Turkey, brought back, and now brings ideas that are far easier to grow in a ideas that are far easier to grow in a ideas that are far easier to grow in a different country. Brings those and now different country. Brings those and now different country. Brings those and now becomes an incredibly influential voice. becomes an incredibly influential voice. becomes an incredibly influential voice. And so when you start doing that on And so when you start doing that on And so when you start doing that on mass, it starts to become problematic. mass, it starts to become problematic. mass, it starts to become problematic. If I'm China and I'm like, hm, I would If I'm China and I'm like, hm, I would If I'm China and I'm like, hm, I would like to have a lot of citizens that I like to have a lot of citizens that I like to have a lot of citizens that I can send back whenever I want, but that can send back whenever I want, but that can send back whenever I want, but that they were raised on Chinese soil and they were raised on Chinese soil and they were raised on Chinese soil and they have Chinese um values and Chinese they have Chinese um values and Chinese they have Chinese um values and Chinese ideology, but I can send them over ideology, but I can send them over ideology, but I can send them over whenever I want because they are US whenever I want because they are US whenever I want because they are US citizens. It is a attack vector like citizens. It is a attack vector like citizens. It is a attack vector like this is a way for people if they so this is a way for people if they so this is a way for people if they so choose to do exactly that. Uh if I am a choose to do exactly that. Uh if I am a choose to do exactly that. Uh if I am a member of radical Islam and I believe in member of radical Islam and I believe in member of radical Islam and I believe in a global caliphate and I want to send a global caliphate and I want to send a global caliphate and I want to send people the world over, literally look at people the world over, literally look at people the world over, literally look at how many countries, uh if you're a how many countries, uh if you're a how many countries, uh if you're a refugee and you skip whatever 55 other refugee and you skip whatever 55 other refugee and you skip whatever 55 other Muslim countries that you could go to Muslim countries that you could go to Muslim countries that you could go to and you go straight to the west, uh you and you go straight to the west, uh you and you go straight to the west, uh you do have to ask why. And so if I were do have to ask why. And so if I were do have to ask why. And so if I were trying to propagate radical Islam, which trying to propagate radical Islam, which trying to propagate radical Islam, which keep in mind, not all Muslims are trying keep in mind, not all Muslims are trying keep in mind, not all Muslims are trying to do, but if I'm trying to propagate to do, but if I'm trying to propagate to do, but if I'm trying to propagate radical Islam and I know, hey, I can go radical Islam and I know, hey, I can go radical Islam and I know, hey, I can go over there, I can have a kid, and then over there, I can have a kid, and then over there, I can have a kid, and then raise them in a Muslim majority country raise them in a Muslim majority country raise them in a Muslim majority country and then send them back whenever I want. and then send them back whenever I want. and then send them back whenever I want. Great, let's go. So it is certainly an Great, let's go. So it is certainly an Great, let's go. So it is certainly an attack vector. Whether you think it's attack vector. Whether you think it's attack vector. Whether you think it's used by almost nobody for that or not used by almost nobody for that or not used by almost nobody for that or not becomes irrelevant. It is a way for becomes irrelevant. It is a way for becomes irrelevant. It is a way for people to take advantage of this. It's people to take advantage of this. It's people to take advantage of this. It's the same way that I feel about ID and the same way that I feel about ID and the same way that I feel about ID and voting. Whether or not you're going to voting. Whether or not you're going to voting. Whether or not you're going to find masscale fraud, you have an obvious find masscale fraud, you have an obvious find masscale fraud, you have an obvious hole in your system that is illogical. hole in your system that is illogical. hole in your system that is illogical. Why would you do this? People will Why would you do this? People will Why would you do this? People will follow the incentive structures. And follow the incentive structures. And follow the incentive structures. And this is the thing that I don't think this is the thing that I don't think this is the thing that I don't think people are being honest about. People people are being honest about. People people are being honest about. People follow incentive structures. And so, if follow incentive structures. And so, if follow incentive structures. And so, if you create that incentive of why not, you create that incentive of why not, you create that incentive of why not, let me just make sure that I've got that let me just make sure that I've got that let me just make sure that I've got that option should I want to use it. Now, you option should I want to use it. Now, you option should I want to use it. Now, you create a problem, especially when we're create a problem, especially when we're create a problem, especially when we're talking about tens of thousands of talking about tens of thousands of talking about tens of thousands of people every year. Okay. Uh now the EOS people every year. Okay. Uh now the EOS people every year. Okay. Uh now the EOS delegate the president's authority under delegate the president's authority under delegate the president's authority under section 215A of the immigration and uh section 215A of the immigration and uh section 215A of the immigration and uh nationality act to the secretary of nationality act to the secretary of nationality act to the secretary of state and the secretary of homeland state and the secretary of homeland state and the secretary of homeland security. Those departments can now deny security. Those departments can now deny security. Those departments can now deny visas, revoke visas that were already visas, revoke visas that were already visas, revoke visas that were already issued uh permanently bar entry, remove issued uh permanently bar entry, remove issued uh permanently bar entry, remove people who previously engaged in birth people who previously engaged in birth people who previously engaged in birth tourism and take action against the tourism and take action against the tourism and take action against the operators running these businesses. So operators running these businesses. So operators running these businesses. So inside the country or abroad by the way. inside the country or abroad by the way. inside the country or abroad by the way. So, there's a carveout for humanitarian So, there's a carveout for humanitarian So, there's a carveout for humanitarian cases in national interest, which I cases in national interest, which I cases in national interest, which I love. Carveouts. Yep. Uh the admin is love. Carveouts. Yep. Uh the admin is love. Carveouts. Yep. Uh the admin is claiming that the practice is now banned claiming that the practice is now banned claiming that the practice is now banned as of the signing. Now, okay, that's as of the signing. Now, okay, that's as of the signing. Now, okay, that's probably overstating things a little probably overstating things a little probably overstating things a little bit. Technically, a State Department uh bit. Technically, a State Department uh bit. Technically, a State Department uh rule from January of 2020 had already rule from January of 2020 had already rule from January of 2020 had already let consular officers deny tourist visas let consular officers deny tourist visas let consular officers deny tourist visas when they believed that the primary when they believed that the primary when they believed that the primary purpose was just to give birth here. So, purpose was just to give birth here. So, purpose was just to give birth here. So, that power already exists and getting a that power already exists and getting a that power already exists and getting a tourist visa for that purpose is already tourist visa for that purpose is already tourist visa for that purpose is already illegal under existing law. But at least illegal under existing law. But at least illegal under existing law. But at least what's going on now should at a minimum what's going on now should at a minimum what's going on now should at a minimum bolster compliance because a lot of bolster compliance because a lot of bolster compliance because a lot of times uh this is an idea that I think is times uh this is an idea that I think is times uh this is an idea that I think is going to become increasingly important going to become increasingly important going to become increasingly important is this idea of a parchment guarantee. is this idea of a parchment guarantee. is this idea of a parchment guarantee. So the founding fathers referred to a So the founding fathers referred to a So the founding fathers referred to a parchment guarantee as something that on parchment guarantee as something that on parchment guarantee as something that on paper says that you have to do but paper says that you have to do but paper says that you have to do but culturally you don't have the will to culturally you don't have the will to culturally you don't have the will to enforce it. That's a big part of the enforce it. That's a big part of the enforce it. That's a big part of the battle going on in America right now is battle going on in America right now is battle going on in America right now is not what rules do we have in place. It not what rules do we have in place. It not what rules do we have in place. It is illegal to cross the border without is illegal to cross the border without is illegal to cross the border without having uh the proper paperwork. And yet having uh the proper paperwork. And yet having uh the proper paperwork. And yet we give uh amnesty to people that do it. we give uh amnesty to people that do it. we give uh amnesty to people that do it. We give access to public services and We give access to public services and We give access to public services and taxpayer dollars to people that do it. taxpayer dollars to people that do it. taxpayer dollars to people that do it. So it's illegal, but we don't have the So it's illegal, but we don't have the So it's illegal, but we don't have the will to enforce it, sanctuary cities, will to enforce it, sanctuary cities, will to enforce it, sanctuary cities, etc. So this gives more tools to more etc. So this gives more tools to more etc. So this gives more tools to more people. It puts a signal out to the people. It puts a signal out to the people. It puts a signal out to the culture saying, "Hey, listen. This culture saying, "Hey, listen. This culture saying, "Hey, listen. This really does matter." So, I think you really does matter." So, I think you really does matter." So, I think you will see an uptick in um the enforcement will see an uptick in um the enforcement will see an uptick in um the enforcement of laws that we already have, but just of laws that we already have, but just of laws that we already have, but just so everybody knows, there was ways to so everybody knows, there was ways to so everybody knows, there was ways to deal with this in the past. We just deal with this in the past. We just deal with this in the past. We just didn't have the cultural will to do it. didn't have the cultural will to do it. didn't have the cultural will to do it. And so, that's why ultimately it matters And so, that's why ultimately it matters And so, that's why ultimately it matters who you vote for because uh whether the who you vote for because uh whether the who you vote for because uh whether the policies get enforced have a lot to do policies get enforced have a lot to do policies get enforced have a lot to do with the people that are in power. So, with the people that are in power. So, with the people that are in power. So, be careful with that. Now, White House be careful with that. Now, White House be careful with that. Now, White House uh staff secretary Will Sharf says uh staff secretary Will Sharf says uh staff secretary Will Sharf says nothing in the new EO conflicts with nothing in the new EO conflicts with nothing in the new EO conflicts with what the Supreme Court decided. I have a what the Supreme Court decided. I have a what the Supreme Court decided. I have a feeling there might be some push back on feeling there might be some push back on feeling there might be some push back on that, but we'll see um in the fullness that, but we'll see um in the fullness that, but we'll see um in the fullness of time. All right. Now, no one really of time. All right. Now, no one really of time. All right. Now, no one really knows how big the problem of birth knows how big the problem of birth knows how big the problem of birth tourism actually is, but the Center for tourism actually is, but the Center for tourism actually is, but the Center for Immigration Studies estimates that it's Immigration Studies estimates that it's Immigration Studies estimates that it's 20,000 to 26,000 possible cases a year. 20,000 to 26,000 possible cases a year. 20,000 to 26,000 possible cases a year. So, that to me is a big enough problem So, that to me is a big enough problem So, that to me is a big enough problem that if it's anywhere in that that if it's anywhere in that that if it's anywhere in that neighborhood, if it was half that, uh neighborhood, if it was half that, uh neighborhood, if it was half that, uh this would still be an issue that's this would still be an issue that's this would still be an issue that's worth curbing. worth curbing. worth curbing. >> Okay, Scott Bessent. Um moving on. We're >> Okay, Scott Bessent. Um moving on. We're >> Okay, Scott Bessent. Um moving on. We're doing round robin here. Scott Bessant doing round robin here. Scott Bessant doing round robin here. Scott Bessant said that the K-shaped economy is done said that the K-shaped economy is done said that the K-shaped economy is done and you brokeies need just get your and you brokeies need just get your and you brokeies need just get your money up. money up. money up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Um >> Um [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> yeah. Welcome to the land of propaganda. >> yeah. Welcome to the land of propaganda. >> yeah. Welcome to the land of propaganda. >> So this is his tweet that he pulled out. >> So this is his tweet that he pulled out. >> So this is his tweet that he pulled out. You can break it down. You can break it down. You can break it down. >> I know. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get to >> I know. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get to >> I know. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get to that in a second. that in a second. that in a second. >> Go. >> Go. >> Go. >> All right. Great news everybody. The >> All right. Great news everybody. The >> All right. Great news everybody. The economy's fixed, baby. That strain that economy's fixed, baby. That strain that economy's fixed, baby. That strain that you feel, it's all an illusion. So says you feel, it's all an illusion. So says you feel, it's all an illusion. So says Scott Besson. Now let's read his Scott Besson. Now let's read his Scott Besson. Now let's read his detailed tweet. detailed tweet. detailed tweet. The truth is wages are up for Americans The truth is wages are up for Americans The truth is wages are up for Americans across the distribution. But across the distribution. But across the distribution. But importantly, earnings growth for Main importantly, earnings growth for Main importantly, earnings growth for Main Street workers at the 25th earnings Street workers at the 25th earnings Street workers at the 25th earnings percentile was 5.5% year-over-year in percentile was 5.5% year-over-year in percentile was 5.5% year-over-year in the latest data this past quarter. More the latest data this past quarter. More the latest data this past quarter. More than three times the growth experienced than three times the growth experienced than three times the growth experienced by workers at the 75th percentile. by workers at the 75th percentile. by workers at the 75th percentile. Median weekly earnings also rose about a Median weekly earnings also rose about a Median weekly earnings also rose about a robust 4.6% well outpacing inflation. robust 4.6% well outpacing inflation. robust 4.6% well outpacing inflation. This marks a stark improvement from the This marks a stark improvement from the This marks a stark improvement from the loss of purchasing power main street loss of purchasing power main street loss of purchasing power main street Americans experienced during the Biden Americans experienced during the Biden Americans experienced during the Biden administration. Families had not administration. Families had not administration. Families had not forgotten the pain of Biden era forgotten the pain of Biden era forgotten the pain of Biden era policies, but President Trump is turning policies, but President Trump is turning policies, but President Trump is turning the tide. The fact is lower wage workers the tide. The fact is lower wage workers the tide. The fact is lower wage workers are leading, median workers are gaining, are leading, median workers are gaining, are leading, median workers are gaining, and the pundit-driven K-shaped economy and the pundit-driven K-shaped economy and the pundit-driven K-shaped economy narratives does not hold up. narratives does not hold up. narratives does not hold up. >> That is hilarious. >> That is hilarious. >> That is hilarious. >> BLS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, have >> BLS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, have >> BLS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, have published a wage data for all to see, published a wage data for all to see, published a wage data for all to see, including journalists willing to look including journalists willing to look including journalists willing to look past the haze of their hostility towards past the haze of their hostility towards past the haze of their hostility towards the president. This is the graph that the president. This is the graph that the president. This is the graph that he's referencing. he's referencing. he's referencing. >> All right. Yeah. If you're looking at >> All right. Yeah. If you're looking at >> All right. Yeah. If you're looking at your screen, you'll see usual weekly your screen, you'll see usual weekly your screen, you'll see usual weekly earnings growth by earnings quartile. earnings growth by earnings quartile. earnings growth by earnings quartile. how this is so everybody's eyes just how this is so everybody's eyes just how this is so everybody's eyes just glaze over. So basically this is saying glaze over. So basically this is saying glaze over. So basically this is saying that people uh in the working class that people uh in the working class that people uh in the working class they're growing faster than everybody they're growing faster than everybody they're growing faster than everybody else. That's sort of the the quick else. That's sort of the the quick else. That's sort of the the quick punchline. Now the stats might be true punchline. Now the stats might be true punchline. Now the stats might be true but the story that he's spinning that but the story that he's spinning that but the story that he's spinning that Besson is spinning uh is not lining up Besson is spinning uh is not lining up Besson is spinning uh is not lining up with the facts. The problem is that with the facts. The problem is that with the facts. The problem is that Besson is moving back and forth between Besson is moving back and forth between Besson is moving back and forth between nominal and real. Now, if you guys nominal and real. Now, if you guys nominal and real. Now, if you guys struggle with understanding the struggle with understanding the struggle with understanding the difference between nominal and real like difference between nominal and real like difference between nominal and real like I did, let me just add a brick in your I did, let me just add a brick in your I did, let me just add a brick in your continued building of an understanding continued building of an understanding continued building of an understanding between those two things because they between those two things because they between those two things because they matter a lot. So, if you think of real matter a lot. So, if you think of real matter a lot. So, if you think of real as like what's really going on like as like what's really going on like as like what's really going on like really, that's basically the vibes. In really, that's basically the vibes. In really, that's basically the vibes. In this case, it's actually the only thing this case, it's actually the only thing this case, it's actually the only thing that matters. Are people after adjust uh that matters. Are people after adjust uh that matters. Are people after adjust uh inflation has been adjusted for and all inflation has been adjusted for and all inflation has been adjusted for and all that, am I actually getting richer or that, am I actually getting richer or that, am I actually getting richer or not? Can I buy more stuff or not? The not? Can I buy more stuff or not? The not? Can I buy more stuff or not? The real deal. Okay, that's what real means. real deal. Okay, that's what real means. real deal. Okay, that's what real means. Nominal is some [ __ ] It just means Nominal is some [ __ ] It just means Nominal is some [ __ ] It just means number go up. If one number is going up, number go up. If one number is going up, number go up. If one number is going up, meaning, hey, I'm making more money. But meaning, hey, I'm making more money. But meaning, hey, I'm making more money. But by the way, inflation is going up even by the way, inflation is going up even by the way, inflation is going up even more than the amount that I'm making, more than the amount that I'm making, more than the amount that I'm making, then what's really going on is you're then what's really going on is you're then what's really going on is you're getting poorer. Okay, so real, that's getting poorer. Okay, so real, that's getting poorer. Okay, so real, that's that real [ __ ] Nominal is some that real [ __ ] Nominal is some that real [ __ ] Nominal is some [ __ ] nominal is like, yes, the [ __ ] nominal is like, yes, the [ __ ] nominal is like, yes, the actual number has gone up. Maybe you actual number has gone up. Maybe you actual number has gone up. Maybe you were making $75 an hour before and now were making $75 an hour before and now were making $75 an hour before and now you're making $77 an hour. But if you're making $77 an hour. But if you're making $77 an hour. But if inflation is outstripping the percentage inflation is outstripping the percentage inflation is outstripping the percentage that your actual earnings went up, like that your actual earnings went up, like that your actual earnings went up, like if you made 5% more, but inflation is if you made 5% more, but inflation is if you made 5% more, but inflation is 7%, well, you just got in trouble. You 7%, well, you just got in trouble. You 7%, well, you just got in trouble. You just moved backwards. You're getting just moved backwards. You're getting just moved backwards. You're getting more poor. If on the other hand, your more poor. If on the other hand, your more poor. If on the other hand, your nominal wage, the bullshitty thing, if nominal wage, the bullshitty thing, if nominal wage, the bullshitty thing, if that goes up by, let's say, 5%. But that goes up by, let's say, 5%. But that goes up by, let's say, 5%. But inflation is only 3%, then what's really inflation is only 3%, then what's really inflation is only 3%, then what's really happening is you're getting richer. happening is you're getting richer. happening is you're getting richer. Okay? You're actually making more money. Okay? You're actually making more money. Okay? You're actually making more money. You can actually buy more stuff. Okay? You can actually buy more stuff. Okay? You can actually buy more stuff. Okay? That's my best attempt to give you what That's my best attempt to give you what That's my best attempt to give you what took me way too long to be able to took me way too long to be able to took me way too long to be able to explain to myself. That's the difference explain to myself. That's the difference explain to myself. That's the difference between nominal and real. and Bessant between nominal and real. and Bessant between nominal and real. and Bessant unfortunately bounces back and forth unfortunately bounces back and forth unfortunately bounces back and forth between the two to paint a picture that between the two to paint a picture that between the two to paint a picture that is better than it really is. So the is better than it really is. So the is better than it really is. So the Bureau of Labor Statistics according to Bureau of Labor Statistics according to Bureau of Labor Statistics according to them Q2 of 2025 to Q2 of 2026 weekly them Q2 of 2025 to Q2 of 2026 weekly them Q2 of 2025 to Q2 of 2026 weekly earnings at the 25th percentile rose earnings at the 25th percentile rose earnings at the 25th percentile rose 5.5%. The median rose by 4.6%. 5.5%. The median rose by 4.6%. 5.5%. The median rose by 4.6%. The 75th uh percentile rose 1.5%. So, The 75th uh percentile rose 1.5%. So, The 75th uh percentile rose 1.5%. So, it's true. Low-wage workers outran it's true. Low-wage workers outran it's true. Low-wage workers outran highwage [snorts] highwage [snorts] highwage [snorts] workers by more than 3 to one. That workers by more than 3 to one. That workers by more than 3 to one. That actually is something to celebrate. That actually is something to celebrate. That actually is something to celebrate. That is phenomenal. Okay. Every one of those is phenomenal. Okay. Every one of those is phenomenal. Okay. Every one of those numbers checks out. That's that's real numbers checks out. That's that's real numbers checks out. That's that's real talk. The framing built on top of it is talk. The framing built on top of it is talk. The framing built on top of it is where this starts to get wonky. So, where this starts to get wonky. So, where this starts to get wonky. So, inflation over that same stretch was inflation over that same stretch was inflation over that same stretch was 3.9%. 3.9%. 3.9%. Okay. So, the same Bureau of Labor Okay. So, the same Bureau of Labor Okay. So, the same Bureau of Labor Statistics document. So, they're the Statistics document. So, they're the Statistics document. So, they're the ones ratting them out. So the median ones ratting them out. So the median ones ratting them out. So the median gain 7/10en of a point in real terms, gain 7/10en of a point in real terms, gain 7/10en of a point in real terms, the thinnest gain in years. So the thinnest gain in years. So the thinnest gain in years. So unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately, not great. It's better than nothing, but not great. It's better than nothing, but not great. It's better than nothing, but it's not great. And the 75th percentile it's not great. And the 75th percentile it's not great. And the 75th percentile lost 2.4% of purchasing power. So in lost 2.4% of purchasing power. So in lost 2.4% of purchasing power. So in real terms, even though their their real terms, even though their their real terms, even though their their nominal [ __ ] number did go up, it nominal [ __ ] number did go up, it nominal [ __ ] number did go up, it didn't go up enough to outplace didn't go up enough to outplace didn't go up enough to outplace inflation. So they're actually moving inflation. So they're actually moving inflation. So they're actually moving backwards. So, he's trying to tell you, backwards. So, he's trying to tell you, backwards. So, he's trying to tell you, hey, no K-shaped economy. What he should hey, no K-shaped economy. What he should hey, no K-shaped economy. What he should be saying is that, okay, there actually be saying is that, okay, there actually be saying is that, okay, there actually is some good stuff going. The people at is some good stuff going. The people at is some good stuff going. The people at the very bottom, the very bottom of the the very bottom, the very bottom of the the very bottom, the very bottom of the K is coming up a little bit, but the K is coming up a little bit, but the K is coming up a little bit, but the people just above them are still falling people just above them are still falling people just above them are still falling backwards. So, we have not solved our backwards. So, we have not solved our backwards. So, we have not solved our K-shaped problem, much to my dismay. K-shaped problem, much to my dismay. K-shaped problem, much to my dismay. We've got a little bit of good news, and We've got a little bit of good news, and We've got a little bit of good news, and I wish you would have just stated what's I wish you would have just stated what's I wish you would have just stated what's really happening. So, hey, if you're really happening. So, hey, if you're really happening. So, hey, if you're like the person most struggling, things like the person most struggling, things like the person most struggling, things are actually by a thin margin, but are actually by a thin margin, but are actually by a thin margin, but things are actually starting to get things are actually starting to get things are actually starting to get better for you. You really are getting better for you. You really are getting better for you. You really are getting slightly richer and we want to slightly richer and we want to slightly richer and we want to accelerate that. And here as the accelerate that. And here as the accelerate that. And here as the treasury secretary, I'm telling you, treasury secretary, I'm telling you, treasury secretary, I'm telling you, we're committed to do that. And here are we're committed to do that. And here are we're committed to do that. And here are the policies we're going to put in the policies we're going to put in the policies we're going to put in place. I would have loved that, but he place. I would have loved that, but he place. I would have loved that, but he knows nobody knows the difference knows nobody knows the difference knows nobody knows the difference between nominal and real. And he can between nominal and real. And he can between nominal and real. And he can just bounce back and forth between the just bounce back and forth between the just bounce back and forth between the two and nobody's going to notice unless two and nobody's going to notice unless two and nobody's going to notice unless of course you're subscribed. right here, of course you're subscribed. right here, of course you're subscribed. right here, everybody. Let's take a second. Let's everybody. Let's take a second. Let's everybody. Let's take a second. Let's hit that like button. Let's make sure hit that like button. Let's make sure hit that like button. Let's make sure that we subscribe. Let's get these that we subscribe. Let's get these that we subscribe. Let's get these numbers up, everybody. All right. So, numbers up, everybody. All right. So, numbers up, everybody. All right. So, that's the real deal. That's what's that's the real deal. That's what's that's the real deal. That's what's going on. We do have some good movement, going on. We do have some good movement, going on. We do have some good movement, but um it's not nearly enough. We're but um it's not nearly enough. We're but um it's not nearly enough. We're going to have to keep going. And for going to have to keep going. And for going to have to keep going. And for people more in the middle, they are people more in the middle, they are people more in the middle, they are still falling backwards. The exact wrong still falling backwards. The exact wrong still falling backwards. The exact wrong direction. And certainly not the end of direction. And certainly not the end of direction. And certainly not the end of the K-shaped economy. the K-shaped economy. the K-shaped economy. >> It Oh, go ahead. >> It Oh, go ahead. >> It Oh, go ahead. >> No, I insist. I was just gonna say it's >> No, I insist. I was just gonna say it's >> No, I insist. I was just gonna say it's so funny recently like after Trump so funny recently like after Trump so funny recently like after Trump started doing this like affordability is started doing this like affordability is started doing this like affordability is not a thing. I've noticed a lot of the not a thing. I've noticed a lot of the not a thing. I've noticed a lot of the MAGA wing of the GOP have just been like MAGA wing of the GOP have just been like MAGA wing of the GOP have just been like hammering this no everything's fine. hammering this no everything's fine. hammering this no everything's fine. Like Dan Krenshaw recently was like no Like Dan Krenshaw recently was like no Like Dan Krenshaw recently was like no just eat ramen. Y'all are complaining just eat ramen. Y'all are complaining just eat ramen. Y'all are complaining too much. You just need to eat cheap too much. You just need to eat cheap too much. You just need to eat cheap food. food. food. >> Yeah. The $20 burrito debate. I was >> Yeah. The $20 burrito debate. I was >> Yeah. The $20 burrito debate. I was literally pulling that out. literally pulling that out. literally pulling that out. >> Yeah. It's just like what are we you >> Yeah. It's just like what are we you >> Yeah. It's just like what are we you know like at a certain point it's like know like at a certain point it's like know like at a certain point it's like do you all want to win the midterms do you all want to win the midterms do you all want to win the midterms [laughter] you know? [laughter] you know? [laughter] you know? >> Okay. Yes. Yes. Very important. Now >> Okay. Yes. Yes. Very important. Now >> Okay. Yes. Yes. Very important. Now let's say it even more aggressively. Do let's say it even more aggressively. Do let's say it even more aggressively. Do you [ __ ] actually care about you [ __ ] actually care about you [ __ ] actually care about the American people? Like, god damn. the American people? Like, god damn. the American people? Like, god damn. Like, kids, please, for the [ __ ] love Like, kids, please, for the [ __ ] love Like, kids, please, for the [ __ ] love of God, you have people screaming out of God, you have people screaming out of God, you have people screaming out saying, "Hey, life has gotten pretty saying, "Hey, life has gotten pretty saying, "Hey, life has gotten pretty hard here. I would really like some hard here. I would really like some hard here. I would really like some help." You've got people just absolutely help." You've got people just absolutely help." You've got people just absolutely ejecting out of the uh workforce. You ejecting out of the uh workforce. You ejecting out of the uh workforce. You don't eject out of the workforce unless don't eject out of the workforce unless don't eject out of the workforce unless a you can suck off the government teat a you can suck off the government teat a you can suck off the government teat and b you realize uh that's going to be and b you realize uh that's going to be and b you realize uh that's going to be a dead end because inflation is a dead end because inflation is a dead end because inflation is outpacing me. You're going to know this outpacing me. You're going to know this outpacing me. You're going to know this intuitively. They're not going to be intuitively. They're not going to be intuitively. They're not going to be able to explain it, but inflation is able to explain it, but inflation is able to explain it, but inflation is outpacing me. So, I'm going to fall outpacing me. So, I'm going to fall outpacing me. So, I'm going to fall farther behind and I'm going to work my farther behind and I'm going to work my farther behind and I'm going to work my ass while doing it when I could just ass while doing it when I could just ass while doing it when I could just suck off the government te. What the suck off the government te. What the suck off the government te. What the [ __ ] are we even talking about? I'm [ __ ] are we even talking about? I'm [ __ ] are we even talking about? I'm going to go do that thing and I'm mad as going to go do that thing and I'm mad as going to go do that thing and I'm mad as hell because I'm one of the overproduced hell because I'm one of the overproduced hell because I'm one of the overproduced elites and there's plenty of energy elites and there's plenty of energy elites and there's plenty of energy telling me I should be mad as hell and telling me I should be mad as hell and telling me I should be mad as hell and that I should just join this socialist that I should just join this socialist that I should just join this socialist movement and let's go. And listen, if movement and let's go. And listen, if movement and let's go. And listen, if you tell them to just go eat ramen when you tell them to just go eat ramen when you tell them to just go eat ramen when they've got a $20 burrito staring them they've got a $20 burrito staring them they've got a $20 burrito staring them in the face, dude, that's just it's in the face, dude, that's just it's in the face, dude, that's just it's dumb. That is not somebody who's dumb. That is not somebody who's dumb. That is not somebody who's thinking I actually want to help people. thinking I actually want to help people. thinking I actually want to help people. That's somebody who's they're about That's somebody who's they're about That's somebody who's they're about vibes and so they're getting vibe checks vibes and so they're getting vibe checks vibes and so they're getting vibe checks from people that are like, "Yeah, yeah, from people that are like, "Yeah, yeah, from people that are like, "Yeah, yeah, [ __ ] these kids. They're all being [ __ ] these kids. They're all being [ __ ] these kids. They're all being lazy." lazy." lazy." They there's a sideby-side comparison. They there's a sideby-side comparison. They there's a sideby-side comparison. So when Biden was in office, America, So when Biden was in office, America, So when Biden was in office, America, our food prices are too high. What are our food prices are too high. What are our food prices are too high. What are we doing about inflation? Biden we doing about inflation? Biden we doing about inflation? Biden administration, just be vegan and stop administration, just be vegan and stop administration, just be vegan and stop complaining, you bunch of rubs. Then complaining, you bunch of rubs. Then complaining, you bunch of rubs. Then here he goes now recently just hearing here he goes now recently just hearing here he goes now recently just hearing about this dumb $20 burrito debate. Just about this dumb $20 burrito debate. Just about this dumb $20 burrito debate. Just so just I make the losers on social so just I make the losers on social so just I make the losers on social media angry before going to bed. Stop media angry before going to bed. Stop media angry before going to bed. Stop whining. Get a job. Eat ramen like the whining. Get a job. Eat ramen like the whining. Get a job. Eat ramen like the rest of us did in college on a budget rest of us did in college on a budget rest of us did in college on a budget with four roommates. The market doesn't with four roommates. The market doesn't with four roommates. The market doesn't care what you think something should care what you think something should care what you think something should cost. Only communists care. They said cost. Only communists care. They said cost. Only communists care. They said price. Remember then everyone stars. price. Remember then everyone stars. price. Remember then everyone stars. Remember are you a communist or are you Remember are you a communist or are you Remember are you a communist or are you an American adult male cy capable of an American adult male cy capable of an American adult male cy capable of handling his own [ __ ] handling his own [ __ ] handling his own [ __ ] >> Yeah. And then he got community noted >> Yeah. And then he got community noted >> Yeah. And then he got community noted which is brilliant. Saying Dan Crunch which is brilliant. Saying Dan Crunch which is brilliant. Saying Dan Crunch Dan Krenshaw criticized the Biden Dan Krenshaw criticized the Biden Dan Krenshaw criticized the Biden administration for telling Americans to administration for telling Americans to administration for telling Americans to change dietary habits to lower their change dietary habits to lower their change dietary habits to lower their grocery bills. Dude, this is dope. Also, grocery bills. Dude, this is dope. Also, grocery bills. Dude, this is dope. Also, God bless it. God bless it. God bless it. >> Allegedly been insider trading. Well, >> Allegedly been insider trading. Well, >> Allegedly been insider trading. Well, Jesus Christ, the entire electorate Jesus Christ, the entire electorate Jesus Christ, the entire electorate does. Um, yeah. So, these people are does. Um, yeah. So, these people are does. Um, yeah. So, these people are nakedly political and we should all find nakedly political and we should all find nakedly political and we should all find that absolutely disgusting. But the that absolutely disgusting. But the that absolutely disgusting. But the problem is it's a populist moment. So, problem is it's a populist moment. So, problem is it's a populist moment. So, as long as that person's on your team, as long as that person's on your team, as long as that person's on your team, you won't care if they contradict you won't care if they contradict you won't care if they contradict themselves, themselves, themselves, >> dude. Uh, Franchesca Hong, we haven't >> dude. Uh, Franchesca Hong, we haven't >> dude. Uh, Franchesca Hong, we haven't talked about her much, if at all. I talked about her much, if at all. I talked about her much, if at all. I can't remember if I brought her up yet. can't remember if I brought her up yet. can't remember if I brought her up yet. Um, I've pulled her for a couple shows Um, I've pulled her for a couple shows Um, I've pulled her for a couple shows in a row, but we've never gotten to her. in a row, but we've never gotten to her. in a row, but we've never gotten to her. But Francesca Hong, is this the one But Francesca Hong, is this the one But Francesca Hong, is this the one about Thanksgiving? Yes. Listen to th about Thanksgiving? Yes. Listen to th about Thanksgiving? Yes. Listen to th and think of this. This isn't specific and think of this. This isn't specific and think of this. This isn't specific to the DSA, boys and girls. This is what to the DSA, boys and girls. This is what to the DSA, boys and girls. This is what politicians do. But listen, so first you politicians do. But listen, so first you politicians do. But listen, so first you have to read the tweet, otherwise this have to read the tweet, otherwise this have to read the tweet, otherwise this won't make sense. won't make sense. won't make sense. >> Franchesca Hong 2020, cancel >> Franchesca Hong 2020, cancel >> Franchesca Hong 2020, cancel Thanksgiving. Hong two days ago, Thanksgiving. Hong two days ago, Thanksgiving. Hong two days ago, Thanksgiving is a time that's incredibly Thanksgiving is a time that's incredibly Thanksgiving is a time that's incredibly painful for many people in our painful for many people in our painful for many people in our communities. Hong today, my favorite communities. Hong today, my favorite communities. Hong today, my favorite holiday is Thanksgiving. I love it. holiday is Thanksgiving. I love it. holiday is Thanksgiving. I love it. >> Okay, I meant the tweet there in the >> Okay, I meant the tweet there in the >> Okay, I meant the tweet there in the image. So, zoom in on that. [laughter] image. So, zoom in on that. [laughter] image. So, zoom in on that. [laughter] >> Okay, so this is Francesca Hong back in >> Okay, so this is Francesca Hong back in >> Okay, so this is Francesca Hong back in 2020. Cancel Thanksgiving. should have 2020. Cancel Thanksgiving. should have 2020. Cancel Thanksgiving. should have been should have done this in 1621. If been should have done this in 1621. If been should have done this in 1621. If it takes a worldwide pandemic for us to it takes a worldwide pandemic for us to it takes a worldwide pandemic for us to realize we should stop celebrating realize we should stop celebrating realize we should stop celebrating colonialism and the original super colonialism and the original super colonialism and the original super spreader event that killed indigenous spreader event that killed indigenous spreader event that killed indigenous folks uh and women, so be it. Okay, so folks uh and women, so be it. Okay, so folks uh and women, so be it. Okay, so that's a tweet, baby. She said it. Now that's a tweet, baby. She said it. Now that's a tweet, baby. She said it. Now play this and hear from her own mouth. play this and hear from her own mouth. play this and hear from her own mouth. >> Thanksgiving is also a time that's >> Thanksgiving is also a time that's >> Thanksgiving is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people in incredibly painful for many people in incredibly painful for many people in our communities. our communities. our communities. >> My >> My >> My >> Now stop. So now she's getting battered >> Now stop. So now she's getting battered >> Now stop. So now she's getting battered uh because of politics. And you're going uh because of politics. And you're going uh because of politics. And you're going to want to rewind that a little bit. Uh to want to rewind that a little bit. Uh to want to rewind that a little bit. Uh she's getting battered because the DSA she's getting battered because the DSA she's getting battered because the DSA realizes, oh, this is stupid. The DSA realizes, oh, this is stupid. The DSA realizes, oh, this is stupid. The DSA puppeteers their candidates. That's Tom puppeteers their candidates. That's Tom puppeteers their candidates. That's Tom Billy speaking. Uh but I firmly believe Billy speaking. Uh but I firmly believe Billy speaking. Uh but I firmly believe this. They have an active policy in the this. They have an active policy in the this. They have an active policy in the DSA, which they have stated explicitly DSA, which they have stated explicitly DSA, which they have stated explicitly that we may have uh agenda items that that we may have uh agenda items that that we may have uh agenda items that we're going full boore on, but we we're going full boore on, but we we're going full boore on, but we specifically tell our candidates, don't specifically tell our candidates, don't specifically tell our candidates, don't talk about those things. use these talk about those things. use these talk about those things. use these different words. So, this is her getting different words. So, this is her getting different words. So, this is her getting pulled aside. In my opinion, I do not pulled aside. In my opinion, I do not pulled aside. In my opinion, I do not have uh information you guys don't have, have uh information you guys don't have, have uh information you guys don't have, but in my opinion, this is her getting but in my opinion, this is her getting but in my opinion, this is her getting pulled aside by the DSA and them going, pulled aside by the DSA and them going, pulled aside by the DSA and them going, "Hey, listen. You you can't do the um "Hey, listen. You you can't do the um "Hey, listen. You you can't do the um the Thanksgiving thing. Get elected. the Thanksgiving thing. Get elected. the Thanksgiving thing. Get elected. Then we can get rid of Thanksgiving, but Then we can get rid of Thanksgiving, but Then we can get rid of Thanksgiving, but for now, you got to stop it with that for now, you got to stop it with that for now, you got to stop it with that [ __ ] now. Play what she's saying." [ __ ] now. Play what she's saying." [ __ ] now. Play what she's saying." >> My favorite holiday is >> My favorite holiday is >> My favorite holiday is Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. cuz I love cuz I love cuz I love >> I have it. >> I have it. >> I have it. >> Yep. I don't want to cancel it. I >> Yep. I don't want to cancel it. I >> Yep. I don't want to cancel it. I actually love it. actually love it. actually love it. >> Thanksgiving. >> Thanksgiving. >> Thanksgiving. >> That's obviously [ __ ] She is >> That's obviously [ __ ] She is >> That's obviously [ __ ] She is pandering to the camera. And dude, pandering to the camera. And dude, pandering to the camera. And dude, politicians do this all the time. This politicians do this all the time. This politicians do this all the time. This is so gross. But because everybody's is so gross. But because everybody's is so gross. But because everybody's playing team ball, it's like, "Yeah, playing team ball, it's like, "Yeah, playing team ball, it's like, "Yeah, well, she's on my team. [ __ ] it." She well, she's on my team. [ __ ] it." She well, she's on my team. [ __ ] it." She just said that she doesn't want to just said that she doesn't want to just said that she doesn't want to cancel Thanksgiving. [ __ ] please. That cancel Thanksgiving. [ __ ] please. That cancel Thanksgiving. [ __ ] please. That is so wild. I can't believe people fall is so wild. I can't believe people fall is so wild. I can't believe people fall for that [ __ ] Um, speaking of people for that [ __ ] Um, speaking of people for that [ __ ] Um, speaking of people falling for stuff, let's talk about the falling for stuff, let's talk about the falling for stuff, let's talk about the Iran war. Um, Professor Jen has a reason Iran war. Um, Professor Jen has a reason Iran war. Um, Professor Jen has a reason why the Americans can't get out of this why the Americans can't get out of this why the Americans can't get out of this thing. And if we do, it might be a thing. And if we do, it might be a thing. And if we do, it might be a little bit worse than we initially little bit worse than we initially little bit worse than we initially thought. [laughter] And what happens is that the GCC uh And what happens is that the GCC uh nations of Saudi Arabia, Ban, uh Qatar, nations of Saudi Arabia, Ban, uh Qatar, nations of Saudi Arabia, Ban, uh Qatar, uh Kuwait, uh UAE now are forced to pay uh Kuwait, uh UAE now are forced to pay uh Kuwait, uh UAE now are forced to pay a ransom to um Iran because uh they they a ransom to um Iran because uh they they a ransom to um Iran because uh they they supply the world with their oil for the supply the world with their oil for the supply the world with their oil for the humus. 20% of the world's oil flows for humus. 20% of the world's oil flows for humus. 20% of the world's oil flows for the humus, but in return, they get food. the humus, but in return, they get food. the humus, but in return, they get food. Um so the GCC nations import anywhere Um so the GCC nations import anywhere Um so the GCC nations import anywhere from 80 80 to 90% of their food from from 80 80 to 90% of their food from from 80 80 to 90% of their food from overseas and so basically the center of overseas and so basically the center of overseas and so basically the center of gravity uh shifts from the petro dollar gravity uh shifts from the petro dollar gravity uh shifts from the petro dollar to whatever finan financial system that to whatever finan financial system that to whatever finan financial system that Iran wants to wants to focus on and it Iran wants to wants to focus on and it Iran wants to wants to focus on and it could be breaks uh it could be gold it could be breaks uh it could be gold it could be breaks uh it could be gold it could be anything but remember the could be anything but remember the could be anything but remember the problem with that is that the US economy problem with that is that the US economy problem with that is that the US economy is a Ponzi scheme is dependent on the is a Ponzi scheme is dependent on the is a Ponzi scheme is dependent on the GCC investing in AI high in tech stocks GCC investing in AI high in tech stocks GCC investing in AI high in tech stocks um in uh in startups like Yuber in order um in uh in startups like Yuber in order um in uh in startups like Yuber in order to finance the uh US economy. If this to finance the uh US economy. If this to finance the uh US economy. If this financing stopped then the um uh uh US financing stopped then the um uh uh US financing stopped then the um uh uh US economy could face collapse and this economy could face collapse and this economy could face collapse and this means that these young men would could means that these young men would could means that these young men would could not afford their only fans anymore and not afford their only fans anymore and not afford their only fans anymore and this could lead to a re revolution in this could lead to a re revolution in this could lead to a re revolution in the streets. So the the consequences for the streets. So the the consequences for the streets. So the the consequences for America would be dire if um America were America would be dire if um America were America would be dire if um America were to retreat from the Middle East. to retreat from the Middle East. to retreat from the Middle East. Who who hit the bro? What was that? Who who hit the bro? What was that? Who who hit the bro? What was that? >> Oh, did someone hit bro? I didn't >> Oh, did someone hit bro? I didn't >> Oh, did someone hit bro? I didn't >> Was that the soundboard? I was like, >> Was that the soundboard? I was like, >> Was that the soundboard? I was like, surely that wasn't in the actual surely that wasn't in the actual surely that wasn't in the actual interview. I haven't heard that one interview. I haven't heard that one interview. I haven't heard that one before. before. before. >> That'd be funny just mid- interview, >> That'd be funny just mid- interview, >> That'd be funny just mid- interview, bro. [laughter] bro. [laughter] bro. [laughter] >> Uh, yeah. So, here's the thing. He's >> Uh, yeah. So, here's the thing. He's >> Uh, yeah. So, here's the thing. He's really onto something. First of all, I really onto something. First of all, I really onto something. First of all, I love this guy. Uh, we don't always love this guy. Uh, we don't always love this guy. Uh, we don't always agree, but um I really think that he's agree, but um I really think that he's agree, but um I really think that he's got fantastic analysis. So, here's the got fantastic analysis. So, here's the got fantastic analysis. So, here's the reality. Once you understand how reality. Once you understand how reality. Once you understand how systemically important AI is, once you systemically important AI is, once you systemically important AI is, once you understand that the GCC nations, I know understand that the GCC nations, I know understand that the GCC nations, I know everybody wants to be Israel, but the everybody wants to be Israel, but the everybody wants to be Israel, but the GCC nations really are the future GCC nations really are the future GCC nations really are the future investment dollars into the US, then you investment dollars into the US, then you investment dollars into the US, then you begin to understand that if in the begin to understand that if in the begin to understand that if in the beginning Trump's delusion was, I'm beginning Trump's delusion was, I'm beginning Trump's delusion was, I'm going to go slap Iran around. I'm going going to go slap Iran around. I'm going going to go slap Iran around. I'm going to free the GCC countries from them to free the GCC countries from them to free the GCC countries from them being bullied. We're going to be able to being bullied. We're going to be able to being bullied. We're going to be able to continue to push the Abraham Accords. continue to push the Abraham Accords. continue to push the Abraham Accords. We're going to get all this peace in the We're going to get all this peace in the We're going to get all this peace in the Middle East. All these guys are going to Middle East. All these guys are going to Middle East. All these guys are going to be working together. It's going to be be working together. It's going to be be working together. It's going to be all economically focused. Where will all economically focused. Where will all economically focused. Where will those investment dollars go? They're those investment dollars go? They're those investment dollars go? They're going to go to the US. He had all of going to go to the US. He had all of going to go to the US. He had all of them pledging money to him. And then it them pledging money to him. And then it them pledging money to him. And then it didn't go the way that he expected it to didn't go the way that he expected it to didn't go the way that he expected it to go, like Venezuela. And so now we're go, like Venezuela. And so now we're go, like Venezuela. And so now we're drawn into something that is far more drawn into something that is far more drawn into something that is far more expensive, far more dangerous to their expensive, far more dangerous to their expensive, far more dangerous to their um infrastructure. So they are way less um infrastructure. So they are way less um infrastructure. So they are way less interested in what's going on, at least interested in what's going on, at least interested in what's going on, at least many of them. And so this hasn't ended many of them. And so this hasn't ended many of them. And so this hasn't ended up being what they wanted it to be. Now, up being what they wanted it to be. Now, up being what they wanted it to be. Now, if all of the things about AI, and I'll if all of the things about AI, and I'll if all of the things about AI, and I'll speedrun them here really quickly, but speedrun them here really quickly, but speedrun them here really quickly, but if these the following things are true, if these the following things are true, if these the following things are true, then he's right about the precarious then he's right about the precarious then he's right about the precarious nature uh of this. Also, as you get into nature uh of this. Also, as you get into nature uh of this. Also, as you get into the petro dollar of it all, it becomes the petro dollar of it all, it becomes the petro dollar of it all, it becomes uh really sort of mind-boggling. Okay, uh really sort of mind-boggling. Okay, uh really sort of mind-boggling. Okay, so uh you look at the vast majority of so uh you look at the vast majority of so uh you look at the vast majority of the gains in the stock market right now the gains in the stock market right now the gains in the stock market right now are from the Magnificent 7. Okay, so are from the Magnificent 7. Okay, so are from the Magnificent 7. Okay, so seven stocks. We're going to talk more seven stocks. We're going to talk more seven stocks. We're going to talk more about you. You definitely want to get about you. You definitely want to get about you. You definitely want to get into the reacts we're going to be doing into the reacts we're going to be doing into the reacts we're going to be doing today. Okay, we're talking about today. Okay, we're talking about today. Okay, we're talking about something called the Nifty50. But just something called the Nifty50. But just something called the Nifty50. But just know that what we're seeing is this very know that what we're seeing is this very know that what we're seeing is this very very small number of uh companies have a very small number of uh companies have a very small number of uh companies have a massively disproportionate impact on the massively disproportionate impact on the massively disproportionate impact on the stock market. We've actually seen this stock market. We've actually seen this stock market. We've actually seen this before, specifically with before, specifically with before, specifically with destabilization in the Middle East. It destabilization in the Middle East. It destabilization in the Middle East. It is crazy how history repeats. So now is crazy how history repeats. So now is crazy how history repeats. So now you're very fragile and that a small you're very fragile and that a small you're very fragile and that a small number carry essentially all the growth number carry essentially all the growth number carry essentially all the growth in the stock market. Everybody wants in the stock market. Everybody wants in the stock market. Everybody wants their infinite returns and so they're their infinite returns and so they're their infinite returns and so they're pouring into the stock market. you're pouring into the stock market. you're pouring into the stock market. you're getting these huge valuations and it's getting these huge valuations and it's getting these huge valuations and it's all tied to one bet, just AI. And so if all tied to one bet, just AI. And so if all tied to one bet, just AI. And so if you're counting on the dollars from the you're counting on the dollars from the you're counting on the dollars from the GCC being invested into your AI GCC being invested into your AI GCC being invested into your AI infrastructure, and that's becoming a infrastructure, and that's becoming a infrastructure, and that's becoming a huge question mark, because it doesn't huge question mark, because it doesn't huge question mark, because it doesn't look like the US is going to be able to look like the US is going to be able to look like the US is going to be able to win the war in Iran, that they'll be win the war in Iran, that they'll be win the war in Iran, that they'll be able to eject out of it, but they're not able to eject out of it, but they're not able to eject out of it, but they're not going to be able to win it if they don't going to be able to win it if they don't going to be able to win it if they don't win it. And then um Iran is basically win it. And then um Iran is basically win it. And then um Iran is basically able to charge a toll for everything able to charge a toll for everything able to charge a toll for everything going through and can choke out the food going through and can choke out the food going through and can choke out the food supply coming in which is something that supply coming in which is something that supply coming in which is something that not many people have been talking about. not many people have been talking about. not many people have been talking about. So again, shout out to Professor J. So again, shout out to Professor J. So again, shout out to Professor J. Young. Uh what you end up with is you Young. Uh what you end up with is you Young. Uh what you end up with is you have Iran really being able to control have Iran really being able to control have Iran really being able to control uh those economies. And so they're going uh those economies. And so they're going uh those economies. And so they're going to make sure that nothing is happening to make sure that nothing is happening to make sure that nothing is happening that they don't want. So they're not that they don't want. So they're not that they don't want. So they're not going to be letting trillions of dollars going to be letting trillions of dollars going to be letting trillions of dollars pour into the US. they would much rather pour into the US. they would much rather pour into the US. they would much rather see the US economy tank. And because the see the US economy tank. And because the see the US economy tank. And because the US economy is precariously balanced on US economy is precariously balanced on US economy is precariously balanced on top of AI, you're in like a pretty rough top of AI, you're in like a pretty rough top of AI, you're in like a pretty rough spot. So I think that man, this is like spot. So I think that man, this is like spot. So I think that man, this is like once you get away from the Israel of it once you get away from the Israel of it once you get away from the Israel of it all, which is what everybody wants to all, which is what everybody wants to all, which is what everybody wants to talk about, and you really start looking talk about, and you really start looking talk about, and you really start looking at, okay, how do we end up here in the at, okay, how do we end up here in the at, okay, how do we end up here in the first place? Why is Trump so focused on first place? Why is Trump so focused on first place? Why is Trump so focused on the GCC nations from an economic the GCC nations from an economic the GCC nations from an economic standpoint? Like what is all of this standpoint? Like what is all of this standpoint? Like what is all of this about? And then you realize even if the about? And then you realize even if the about? And then you realize even if the US can uh deal without the oil going US can uh deal without the oil going US can uh deal without the oil going through there that the petro dollar through there that the petro dollar through there that the petro dollar becomes the way that we continue to becomes the way that we continue to becomes the way that we continue to export our inflation which is a huge export our inflation which is a huge export our inflation which is a huge part of the reason that we can run these part of the reason that we can run these part of the reason that we can run these massive deficits. And so all of that is massive deficits. And so all of that is massive deficits. And so all of that is sort of balancing on the head of a pin. sort of balancing on the head of a pin. sort of balancing on the head of a pin. Um so yeah stay awake everybody if you Um so yeah stay awake everybody if you Um so yeah stay awake everybody if you invest your money and you better uh man invest your money and you better uh man invest your money and you better uh man stay awake. Make sure that you have a stay awake. Make sure that you have a stay awake. Make sure that you have a strategy, which is precisely what I'm strategy, which is precisely what I'm strategy, which is precisely what I'm going to be talking about as we push going to be talking about as we push going to be talking about as we push into the reacts today. It's a video that into the reacts today. It's a video that into the reacts today. It's a video that I think is really it triggers all the I think is really it triggers all the I think is really it triggers all the right thoughts and emotions around what right thoughts and emotions around what right thoughts and emotions around what you should be doing with your portfolio. you should be doing with your portfolio. you should be doing with your portfolio. It certainly did for me. Like the video It certainly did for me. Like the video It certainly did for me. Like the video that I'm going to show you today that I'm going to show you today that I'm going to show you today actually triggered me reaching out to my actually triggered me reaching out to my actually triggered me reaching out to my uh my investing team was like, "Hey, I uh my investing team was like, "Hey, I uh my investing team was like, "Hey, I want to make sure that we're actually want to make sure that we're actually want to make sure that we're actually continuing to push the agenda that I continuing to push the agenda that I continuing to push the agenda that I laid out for them a while ago." And it's laid out for them a while ago." And it's laid out for them a while ago." And it's like it just was a nice kick in the ass like it just was a nice kick in the ass like it just was a nice kick in the ass reminder of like where we're actually reminder of like where we're actually reminder of like where we're actually at. Uh so yes, get ready for that one. at. Uh so yes, get ready for that one. at. Uh so yes, get ready for that one. >> I want to go back to Iran really quick >> I want to go back to Iran really quick >> I want to go back to Iran really quick because um a senior Iranian official has because um a senior Iranian official has because um a senior Iranian official has confirmed that Iran will impose a confirmed that Iran will impose a confirmed that Iran will impose a transit fee of 5 to 7% of cargo value on transit fee of 5 to 7% of cargo value on transit fee of 5 to 7% of cargo value on ships using the straight of moose ships using the straight of moose ships using the straight of moose >> worth roughly 100 billion annually at >> worth roughly 100 billion annually at >> worth roughly 100 billion annually at pre-war traffic levels with Chinese pre-war traffic levels with Chinese pre-war traffic levels with Chinese vessels exempt under the drafted deal vessels exempt under the drafted deal vessels exempt under the drafted deal according to the rotors. according to the rotors. according to the rotors. >> Yeah, don't skip past that one. Chinese >> Yeah, don't skip past that one. Chinese >> Yeah, don't skip past that one. Chinese vessels exempt, baby. Teflon Teflon vessels exempt, baby. Teflon Teflon vessels exempt, baby. Teflon Teflon Teflon she can't mess with that guy. Teflon she can't mess with that guy. Teflon she can't mess with that guy. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> The 7% the total would generally >> The 7% the total would generally >> The 7% the total would generally approximate 385 million per day approximate 385 million per day approximate 385 million per day >> or a single VLCC carrying 2 million >> or a single VLCC carrying 2 million >> or a single VLCC carrying 2 million barrels of crude. The fee will be barrels of crude. The fee will be barrels of crude. The fee will be roughly 11 million with almost no cost roughly 11 million with almost no cost roughly 11 million with almost no cost of collection. About 97 will be pure of collection. About 97 will be pure of collection. About 97 will be pure profit. The scale is staggering. The profit. The scale is staggering. The profit. The scale is staggering. The straight would become as profitable as straight would become as profitable as straight would become as profitable as Alphabet, Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft and Alphabet, Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft and Alphabet, Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft and Saudi Aramco. It will be represent it Saudi Aramco. It will be represent it Saudi Aramco. It will be represent it would represent 15 to 20 times the Suez would represent 15 to 20 times the Suez would represent 15 to 20 times the Suez Canal's all-time peak revenue for Iran. Canal's all-time peak revenue for Iran. Canal's all-time peak revenue for Iran. This will exceed a third of the This will exceed a third of the This will exceed a third of the country's GDP without pumping a barrel. country's GDP without pumping a barrel. country's GDP without pumping a barrel. This is a major boost to their economy. This is a major boost to their economy. This is a major boost to their economy. This is a major boost. And with Chinese This is a major boost. And with Chinese This is a major boost. And with Chinese with China, maybe Oman as well being with China, maybe Oman as well being with China, maybe Oman as well being exempt, some special deals get cut. exempt, some special deals get cut. exempt, some special deals get cut. >> Wild, >> Wild, >> Wild, >> this might be the this might be a L for >> this might be the this might be a L for >> this might be the this might be a L for Trump if it actually goes through this Trump if it actually goes through this Trump if it actually goes through this way. way. way. >> Might, dude. If it goes through this >> Might, dude. If it goes through this >> Might, dude. If it goes through this way, this way, this way, this >> if it goes through this way, it is the >> if it goes through this way, it is the >> if it goes through this way, it is the end of America being able to win the end of America being able to win the end of America being able to win the majority of its battles through majority of its battles through majority of its battles through psychology. Now you will actually have psychology. Now you will actually have psychology. Now you will actually have to fight for everything that you want. to fight for everything that you want. to fight for everything that you want. >> We have to drop a nuke next time. We >> We have to drop a nuke next time. We >> We have to drop a nuke next time. We can't like can't like can't like >> You're never going to drop a nuke. Don't >> You're never going to drop a nuke. Don't >> You're never going to drop a nuke. Don't even say that. [laughter] even say that. [laughter] even say that. [laughter] >> Uh it's not going to happen. Everybody >> Uh it's not going to happen. Everybody >> Uh it's not going to happen. Everybody that wants to we got to escalate. Like that wants to we got to escalate. Like that wants to we got to escalate. Like you can't just let them play us like you can't just let them play us like you can't just let them play us like that. that. that. >> Let's do it. [laughter] >> Let's do it. [laughter] >> Let's do it. [laughter] >> See these lefties? You see how they are >> See these lefties? You see how they are >> See these lefties? You see how they are just [ __ ] bloodthirsty these kids. Uh just [ __ ] bloodthirsty these kids. Uh just [ __ ] bloodthirsty these kids. Uh so we we are [laughter] not we are not so we we are [laughter] not we are not so we we are [laughter] not we are not going to be dropping nukes. But yes, it going to be dropping nukes. But yes, it going to be dropping nukes. But yes, it would be a devastating blow would be a devastating blow would be a devastating blow [clears throat] because when you have a [clears throat] because when you have a [clears throat] because when you have a world order, it basically means world order, it basically means world order, it basically means everybody's just like, "All right, this everybody's just like, "All right, this everybody's just like, "All right, this is how things are." Uh, and so you don't is how things are." Uh, and so you don't is how things are." Uh, and so you don't have to fight about it. You just have to have to fight about it. You just have to have to fight about it. You just have to have the threat there. The threat does have the threat there. The threat does have the threat there. The threat does the vast majority of the work and you the vast majority of the work and you the vast majority of the work and you can maintain the free transit of the can maintain the free transit of the can maintain the free transit of the seas. Uh, if the free transit of the seas. Uh, if the free transit of the seas. Uh, if the free transit of the seas goes away on the back of this deal, seas goes away on the back of this deal, seas goes away on the back of this deal, you can expect more of that in the you can expect more of that in the you can expect more of that in the future. And um, and people just future. And um, and people just future. And um, and people just believing that the US is not going to be believing that the US is not going to be believing that the US is not going to be able to make good on all their promises. able to make good on all their promises. able to make good on all their promises. That's what the GCC nations are learning That's what the GCC nations are learning That's what the GCC nations are learning right now is like, whoa, you guys can right now is like, whoa, you guys can right now is like, whoa, you guys can only go so far. And whether that's only go so far. And whether that's only go so far. And whether that's because you don't have the will to go because you don't have the will to go because you don't have the will to go all the way or whether that's because all the way or whether that's because all the way or whether that's because you don't have the stock piles to go all you don't have the stock piles to go all you don't have the stock piles to go all the way or whether both. You don't have the way or whether both. You don't have the way or whether both. You don't have the stock piles to litigate this from the stock piles to litigate this from the stock piles to litigate this from the air and you don't have the will to the air and you don't have the will to the air and you don't have the will to put any boots on the ground. And they put any boots on the ground. And they put any boots on the ground. And they also don't have the will to take the hit also don't have the will to take the hit also don't have the will to take the hit to the infrastructure that they would be to the infrastructure that they would be to the infrastructure that they would be exposed to because even if you pipe this exposed to because even if you pipe this exposed to because even if you pipe this overland, they're just going to send overland, they're just going to send overland, they're just going to send drones to your pipeline over and over drones to your pipeline over and over drones to your pipeline over and over and over. Then you realize, oh [ __ ] I'm and over. Then you realize, oh [ __ ] I'm and over. Then you realize, oh [ __ ] I'm going to have to bury this and I'm going going to have to bury this and I'm going going to have to bury this and I'm going to have to bury it pretty deep. And then to have to bury it pretty deep. And then to have to bury it pretty deep. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh my god, all of a sudden it's like, oh my god, all of a sudden it's like, oh my god, this is going to take a decade to this is going to take a decade to this is going to take a decade to actually build these things going around actually build these things going around actually build these things going around and that's going to be extremely and that's going to be extremely and that's going to be extremely difficult to pull off. So yeah, we are difficult to pull off. So yeah, we are difficult to pull off. So yeah, we are now in very uncertain times at an now in very uncertain times at an now in very uncertain times at an absolutely critical juncture. And absolutely critical juncture. And absolutely critical juncture. And because all eyes really should be on because all eyes really should be on because all eyes really should be on China, you also have China being like, China, you also have China being like, China, you also have China being like, hey, we're good, right? And so China's hey, we're good, right? And so China's hey, we're good, right? And so China's able to negotiate deals directly with able to negotiate deals directly with able to negotiate deals directly with Iran. That shows you the alliance of Iran. That shows you the alliance of Iran. That shows you the alliance of China, Iran, Russia really adding a lot China, Iran, Russia really adding a lot China, Iran, Russia really adding a lot of credence to bricks as a group of of credence to bricks as a group of of credence to bricks as a group of people that are trying to get out from people that are trying to get out from people that are trying to get out from under the world order run by the US. under the world order run by the US. under the world order run by the US. Again, the dollar, the pro dollar being Again, the dollar, the pro dollar being Again, the dollar, the pro dollar being this huge part of this equation. And if this huge part of this equation. And if this huge part of this equation. And if that goes away, because remember the US that goes away, because remember the US that goes away, because remember the US Treasury is no longer the largest Treasury is no longer the largest Treasury is no longer the largest reserve that central banks hold the reserve that central banks hold the reserve that central banks hold the world over. That that's already huge. world over. That that's already huge. world over. That that's already huge. That's already catastrophic. Now it's That's already catastrophic. Now it's That's already catastrophic. Now it's gold. Now what happens if we don't have gold. Now what happens if we don't have gold. Now what happens if we don't have even the petro dollar buddy man like you even the petro dollar buddy man like you even the petro dollar buddy man like you start getting into um a very challenging start getting into um a very challenging start getting into um a very challenging time for the US economically for sure time for the US economically for sure time for the US economically for sure >> it will be interesting. Okay >> it will be interesting. Okay >> it will be interesting. Okay >> and here's one last question with that. >> and here's one last question with that. >> and here's one last question with that. It also begs the question how far is It also begs the question how far is It also begs the question how far is Trump willing to go like if he really Trump willing to go like if he really Trump willing to go like if he really gets backed into a corner and realizes gets backed into a corner and realizes gets backed into a corner and realizes uh oh like um I'm going to have to do uh oh like um I'm going to have to do uh oh like um I'm going to have to do one last Hail Mary. I don't know if he one last Hail Mary. I don't know if he one last Hail Mary. I don't know if he just ejects out and the Hail Mary is a just ejects out and the Hail Mary is a just ejects out and the Hail Mary is a political one where it's like, "Okay, political one where it's like, "Okay, political one where it's like, "Okay, can I spin this and that's the Hail can I spin this and that's the Hail can I spin this and that's the Hail Mary?" Or is the Hail Mary like, "No, Mary?" Or is the Hail Mary like, "No, Mary?" Or is the Hail Mary like, "No, no, no, for real. We got to bomb the no, no, for real. We got to bomb the no, no, for real. We got to bomb the [ __ ] out of these kids." We'll see. Or [ __ ] out of these kids." We'll see. Or [ __ ] out of these kids." We'll see. Or here's something I'm thinking in real here's something I'm thinking in real here's something I'm thinking in real time. or does he go mosquito fleet and time. or does he go mosquito fleet and time. or does he go mosquito fleet and start attacking everything every time start attacking everything every time start attacking everything every time they hit a ship or charge somebody money they hit a ship or charge somebody money they hit a ship or charge somebody money or something that we just nice and cheap or something that we just nice and cheap or something that we just nice and cheap use these cruise missiles that um Lucky use these cruise missiles that um Lucky use these cruise missiles that um Lucky Palmer has been building up and just Palmer has been building up and just Palmer has been building up and just start like [ __ ] with them over and start like [ __ ] with them over and start like [ __ ] with them over and over and over just to make it a pain in over and over just to make it a pain in over and over just to make it a pain in the ass for them to try to hold control the ass for them to try to hold control the ass for them to try to hold control of the straight. of the straight. of the straight. I don't put it past us. And if we can do I don't put it past us. And if we can do I don't put it past us. And if we can do that then we can sort of flip the script that then we can sort of flip the script that then we can sort of flip the script and become the pain on the other side. and become the pain on the other side. and become the pain on the other side. That'll become a question of do we have That'll become a question of do we have That'll become a question of do we have I mean this is where your unsinkable I mean this is where your unsinkable I mean this is where your unsinkable battleship from Israel becomes a battleship from Israel becomes a battleship from Israel becomes a question. I'm thinking about this in question. I'm thinking about this in question. I'm thinking about this in real time. I'm way out over my skis. But real time. I'm way out over my skis. But real time. I'm way out over my skis. But it's actually a very interesting it's actually a very interesting it's actually a very interesting approach to be like all right cool. We approach to be like all right cool. We approach to be like all right cool. We saw the strategy. We know it works. Uh saw the strategy. We know it works. Uh saw the strategy. We know it works. Uh we're going to coordinate with Ukraine. we're going to coordinate with Ukraine. we're going to coordinate with Ukraine. We're going to get all of their drone We're going to get all of their drone We're going to get all of their drone technology. We're going to trade them technology. We're going to trade them technology. We're going to trade them for the ability to manufacture the for the ability to manufacture the for the ability to manufacture the cruise missiles uh in their own country cruise missiles uh in their own country cruise missiles uh in their own country off a licensing deal. And now we're just off a licensing deal. And now we're just off a licensing deal. And now we're just going to [ __ ] pester the life out of going to [ __ ] pester the life out of going to [ __ ] pester the life out of Iran. Now, it will come down to whether Iran. Now, it will come down to whether Iran. Now, it will come down to whether our allies in the region want us to do our allies in the region want us to do our allies in the region want us to do it or not because if we're doing it it or not because if we're doing it it or not because if we're doing it largely because we want uh financial largely because we want uh financial largely because we want uh financial input from them. It's probably not a input from them. It's probably not a input from them. It's probably not a winning proposition. Uh but it is an winning proposition. Uh but it is an winning proposition. Uh but it is an interesting thought exercise. interesting thought exercise. interesting thought exercise. >> I love your optimism. That's a good one. >> I love your optimism. That's a good one. >> I love your optimism. That's a good one. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> I need that. >> I need that. >> I need that. >> I don't know about that. All right, >> I don't know about that. All right, >> I don't know about that. All right, there it is. there it is. there it is. >> U cuz me and Ryan ended up at Nuke, so >> U cuz me and Ryan ended up at Nuke, so >> U cuz me and Ryan ended up at Nuke, so that's a way better uh scenario. that's a way better uh scenario. that's a way better uh scenario. >> I don't I don't know. I still kind of >> I don't I don't know. I still kind of >> I don't I don't know. I still kind of want to do namimer [laughter] and like I could make one strange love and like I could make one strange love over here. Relax, guy. Relax. But right over here. Relax, guy. Relax. But right over here. Relax, guy. Relax. But right now with Claude like, "Okay, how do I now with Claude like, "Okay, how do I now with Claude like, "Okay, how do I get the centuge going?" get the centuge going?" get the centuge going?" >> Yeah, they banned my account. Weirdly, >> Yeah, they banned my account. Weirdly, >> Yeah, they banned my account. Weirdly, like the government was like, "Oh, we're like the government was like, "Oh, we're like the government was like, "Oh, we're going to put a flock camera outside your going to put a flock camera outside your going to put a flock camera outside your apartment." apartment." apartment." [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> First you desend, you uh you um defend >> First you desend, you uh you um defend >> First you desend, you uh you um defend Hassan and now you're asking for nukes. Hassan and now you're asking for nukes. Hassan and now you're asking for nukes. >> Exactly. You know, >> Exactly. You know, >> Exactly. You know, >> and Id like that. >> and Id like that. >> and Id like that. >> Escalates fast. >> Escalates fast. >> Escalates fast. >> You see how they get you? >> You see how they get you? >> You see how they get you? >> They're all right about me, you know. >> They're all right about me, you know. >> They're all right about me, you know. >> That's it. [laughter] The chat called >> That's it. [laughter] The chat called >> That's it. [laughter] The chat called it. The chat called it. it. The chat called it. it. The chat called it. >> They did. They saw it coming. >> They did. They saw it coming. >> They did. They saw it coming. >> All right. Um somebody watched the new >> All right. Um somebody watched the new >> All right. Um somebody watched the new Spider-Man and took it literally. Why Spider-Man and took it literally. Why Spider-Man and took it literally. Why I'm leaving Open AI to build telepathy. I'm leaving Open AI to build telepathy. I'm leaving Open AI to build telepathy. Um, Um, Um, >> is that a spoiler alert on the new >> is that a spoiler alert on the new >> is that a spoiler alert on the new Spider-Man? How dare you? Spider-Man? How dare you? Spider-Man? How dare you? >> Uh, technically it was already spoiled >> Uh, technically it was already spoiled >> Uh, technically it was already spoiled because what was his face spoiled on the because what was his face spoiled on the because what was his face spoiled on the red carpet? red carpet? red carpet? >> Um, >> Um, >> Um, >> I didn't hear about Steve Lacy. >> I didn't hear about Steve Lacy. >> I didn't hear about Steve Lacy. >> Steve Lacy. >> Steve Lacy. >> Steve Lacy. >> Yes. Um, >> Yes. Um, >> Yes. Um, >> telepathy. >> telepathy. >> telepathy. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that doesn't mean anything. No, come on. >> that doesn't mean anything. No, come on. >> that doesn't mean anything. No, come on. It's a super It's a X-Men or uh Superman It's a super It's a X-Men or uh Superman It's a super It's a X-Men or uh Superman um um um >> Marvel movie. Everybody has telepathy. >> Marvel movie. Everybody has telepathy. >> Marvel movie. Everybody has telepathy. >> Yeah. I mean, well, telepathy is already >> Yeah. I mean, well, telepathy is already >> Yeah. I mean, well, telepathy is already real. It will get more real as the days real. It will get more real as the days real. It will get more real as the days go by. Um, so this would have been 12 or go by. Um, so this would have been 12 or go by. Um, so this would have been 12 or 13 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 12 or 13 13 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 12 or 13 13 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 12 or 13 years ago. I had uh one of my employees years ago. I had uh one of my employees years ago. I had uh one of my employees back at a previous company. In fact, back at a previous company. In fact, back at a previous company. In fact, this must have been 15 plus years ago. this must have been 15 plus years ago. this must have been 15 plus years ago. >> Um, he was like, "My son has a colear >> Um, he was like, "My son has a colear >> Um, he was like, "My son has a colear implant and nobody realizes this, but I implant and nobody realizes this, but I implant and nobody realizes this, but I can talk to him over a hundred yards can talk to him over a hundred yards can talk to him over a hundred yards away and I can just whisper something in away and I can just whisper something in away and I can just whisper something in his ear." So he's like, "I'll go to a his ear." So he's like, "I'll go to a his ear." So he's like, "I'll go to a baseball game and my son's out in the baseball game and my son's out in the baseball game and my son's out in the outfield and I just talk to him and I outfield and I just talk to him and I outfield and I just talk to him and I was like, "Holy shit." So telepathy is was like, "Holy shit." So telepathy is was like, "Holy shit." So telepathy is >> microphone or something like how is he >> microphone or something like how is he >> microphone or something like how is he talking? talking? talking? >> Yeah. Yeah. So talking to your phone or >> Yeah. Yeah. So talking to your phone or >> Yeah. Yeah. So talking to your phone or whatever. I don't remember what exactly whatever. I don't remember what exactly whatever. I don't remember what exactly he was using for it, but um but yeah, he was using for it, but um but yeah, he was using for it, but um but yeah, that was whatever 15 years ago. So I can that was whatever 15 years ago. So I can that was whatever 15 years ago. So I can only imagine that things are getting only imagine that things are getting only imagine that things are getting better and better and better now. Uh so better and better and better now. Uh so better and better and better now. Uh so yeah, the fact that we can communicate yeah, the fact that we can communicate yeah, the fact that we can communicate over great distances using our phones. over great distances using our phones. over great distances using our phones. Uh we don't even have to speak. We can Uh we don't even have to speak. We can Uh we don't even have to speak. We can just write letters down and they can be just write letters down and they can be just write letters down and they can be sent anywhere on earth. All you have to sent anywhere on earth. All you have to sent anywhere on earth. All you have to do now to actually have telepathy is go do now to actually have telepathy is go do now to actually have telepathy is go I don't want it outside my body. I want I don't want it outside my body. I want I don't want it outside my body. I want it inside my body. That is the only it inside my body. That is the only it inside my body. That is the only difference. So it it is going to happen. difference. So it it is going to happen. difference. So it it is going to happen. >> You're just defining telepathy as being >> You're just defining telepathy as being >> You're just defining telepathy as being able to communicate without verbal able to communicate without verbal able to communicate without verbal non-verbally over large distances. non-verbally over large distances. non-verbally over large distances. >> That's all telepathy is. >> That's all telepathy is. >> That's all telepathy is. >> Got it. So telepathy was always like >> Got it. So telepathy was always like >> Got it. So telepathy was always like this magical thing because it was like I this magical thing because it was like I this magical thing because it was like I could say something to you, you would could say something to you, you would could say something to you, you would know it, but nobody else would know it. know it, but nobody else would know it. know it, but nobody else would know it. But I could do that right now. I could But I could do that right now. I could But I could do that right now. I could send you like if I wanted you to pull send you like if I wanted you to pull send you like if I wanted you to pull something up and I didn't want anybody something up and I didn't want anybody something up and I didn't want anybody to know what I was saying, I would just to know what I was saying, I would just to know what I was saying, I would just send you a text. You would look at your send you a text. You would look at your send you a text. You would look at your phone, you would see it, and you'd be phone, you would see it, and you'd be phone, you would see it, and you'd be like, you would do the thing. Even like, you would do the thing. Even like, you would do the thing. Even though I never made sound, you never though I never made sound, you never though I never made sound, you never made sound. You just you see exactly made sound. You just you see exactly made sound. You just you see exactly what it is and you do it. So now the what it is and you do it. So now the what it is and you do it. So now the question is, can we put that inside the question is, can we put that inside the question is, can we put that inside the body? And the answer is yes. We're body? And the answer is yes. We're body? And the answer is yes. We're seeing that certainly from uh Neuralink. seeing that certainly from uh Neuralink. seeing that certainly from uh Neuralink. Now, I don't know much about this story, Now, I don't know much about this story, Now, I don't know much about this story, so I don't know what exactly they're so I don't know what exactly they're so I don't know what exactly they're doing, but when I hear somebody say, doing, but when I hear somebody say, doing, but when I hear somebody say, "Oh, I'm going to go build telepathy." "Oh, I'm going to go build telepathy." "Oh, I'm going to go build telepathy." If you'd said that to me 30 years ago, I If you'd said that to me 30 years ago, I If you'd said that to me 30 years ago, I would have said, "Get the [ __ ] out of would have said, "Get the [ __ ] out of would have said, "Get the [ __ ] out of here." Like, that would have seemed so here." Like, that would have seemed so here." Like, that would have seemed so ridiculous. I would have said, "Tlepathy ridiculous. I would have said, "Tlepathy ridiculous. I would have said, "Tlepathy is not even real anyway. So, what are we is not even real anyway. So, what are we is not even real anyway. So, what are we talking about?" Now, seeing how trivial talking about?" Now, seeing how trivial talking about?" Now, seeing how trivial it was for us to do it through devices, it was for us to do it through devices, it was for us to do it through devices, then the question just becomes, can you then the question just becomes, can you then the question just becomes, can you put a device inside of us? It's already put a device inside of us? It's already put a device inside of us? It's already happened. Klear implants is a device happened. Klear implants is a device happened. Klear implants is a device inside your brain that takes signals inside your brain that takes signals inside your brain that takes signals from outside your brain, translates it from outside your brain, translates it from outside your brain, translates it into something that your brain can into something that your brain can into something that your brain can understand and you actually hear. Dude, understand and you actually hear. Dude, understand and you actually hear. Dude, they're brain implants. I don't think they're brain implants. I don't think they're brain implants. I don't think people understand. Cclear implants are people understand. Cclear implants are people understand. Cclear implants are brain interfaces. That's so wild. It's brain interfaces. That's so wild. It's brain interfaces. That's so wild. It's one of the greatest lines from the movie one of the greatest lines from the movie one of the greatest lines from the movie The Matrix. What is real? The The Matrix. What is real? The The Matrix. What is real? The interpretation of electrical chemical interpretation of electrical chemical interpretation of electrical chemical signals. Yeah. Yes. That that is the signals. Yeah. Yes. That that is the signals. Yeah. Yes. That that is the real world. It's you taking these real world. It's you taking these real world. It's you taking these signals and turning them into something signals and turning them into something signals and turning them into something intelligible. We are already able to do intelligible. We are already able to do intelligible. We are already able to do it. Computers. You've seen the kid that it. Computers. You've seen the kid that it. Computers. You've seen the kid that can play video games without He's not can play video games without He's not can play video games without He's not moving and he's playing video games. moving and he's playing video games. moving and he's playing video games. Dude, Dude, Dude, >> he's playing video games with his mind. >> he's playing video games with his mind. >> he's playing video games with his mind. That's a form of telepathy. He is That's a form of telepathy. He is That's a form of telepathy. He is control. That's a form of telekinesis. control. That's a form of telekinesis. control. That's a form of telekinesis. He is controlling the movements of He is controlling the movements of He is controlling the movements of something virtual. But nonetheless, you something virtual. But nonetheless, you something virtual. But nonetheless, you could embody that in a robot. Easy pe. could embody that in a robot. Easy pe. could embody that in a robot. Easy pe. In fact, they they're already doing it. In fact, they they're already doing it. In fact, they they're already doing it. So yeah, telekinesis is real. Not in the So yeah, telekinesis is real. Not in the So yeah, telekinesis is real. Not in the way that you can float [ __ ] across the way that you can float [ __ ] across the way that you can float [ __ ] across the room yet, but it it's wild. It's wild. room yet, but it it's wild. It's wild. room yet, but it it's wild. It's wild. And I keep coming back to the more I And I keep coming back to the more I And I keep coming back to the more I hear about this stuff, the more I'm hear about this stuff, the more I'm hear about this stuff, the more I'm like, I need to spend time researching like, I need to spend time researching like, I need to spend time researching Tesla, like Nicola Tesla, who was trying Tesla, like Nicola Tesla, who was trying Tesla, like Nicola Tesla, who was trying to let everybody know this [ __ ] is to let everybody know this [ __ ] is to let everybody know this [ __ ] is floating around you. Power is just floating around you. Power is just floating around you. Power is just floating around you. Uh there's all floating around you. Uh there's all floating around you. Uh there's all kinds of things that we can tap into kinds of things that we can tap into kinds of things that we can tap into once, you know, what was it? Vibration once, you know, what was it? Vibration once, you know, what was it? Vibration and something else. And it was just and something else. And it was just and something else. And it was just like, yo, that [ __ ] is real. It's real. like, yo, that [ __ ] is real. It's real. like, yo, that [ __ ] is real. It's real. >> And then Einstein killed him and then >> And then Einstein killed him and then >> And then Einstein killed him and then made everybody get on DC. made everybody get on DC. made everybody get on DC. >> I think it was Einstein. Oh, you're >> I think it was Einstein. Oh, you're >> I think it was Einstein. Oh, you're thinking of um thinking of um thinking of um uh Watson. No. What was the the uh Watson. No. What was the the uh Watson. No. What was the the inventor? God damn it. I can't believe inventor? God damn it. I can't believe inventor? God damn it. I can't believe I'm blanking on. I'm blanking on. I'm blanking on. >> Inventor of what? >> Inventor of what? >> Inventor of what? >> Who who did the light bulb? He's >> Who who did the light bulb? He's >> Who who did the light bulb? He's credited with the light bulb. credited with the light bulb. credited with the light bulb. >> Uh Granbell. Or are you talking about >> Uh Granbell. Or are you talking about >> Uh Granbell. Or are you talking about the guy who actually did it? the guy who actually did it? the guy who actually did it? >> How are we blanking on this? >> How are we blanking on this? >> How are we blanking on this? >> Come on. Each one of us should be >> Come on. Each one of us should be >> Come on. Each one of us should be punched in the face. What the [ __ ] punched in the face. What the [ __ ] punched in the face. What the [ __ ] Edison. Edison. Edison. Did I get there Edison. Edison. Edison. Did I get there Edison. Edison. Edison. Did I get there before chat? I think you said, before chat? I think you said, before chat? I think you said, >> "How do we all fumble that?" [laughter] >> "How do we all fumble that?" [laughter] >> "How do we all fumble that?" [laughter] >> Edison. Edison's from Jersey, too. That >> Edison. Edison's from Jersey, too. That >> Edison. Edison's from Jersey, too. That was Yeah, I dropped a ball on that. was Yeah, I dropped a ball on that. was Yeah, I dropped a ball on that. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Everyone's spamming Edison. [laughter] >> Everyone's spamming Edison. [laughter] >> Everyone's spamming Edison. [laughter] >> Rightly so. >> Rightly so. >> Rightly so. >> Sorry. Sorry guys. >> Sorry. Sorry guys. >> Sorry. Sorry guys. >> I know what I was talking about. >> I know what I was talking about. >> I know what I was talking about. >> Uh I was thinking Einstein cuz you said >> Uh I was thinking Einstein cuz you said >> Uh I was thinking Einstein cuz you said Oppenheimer and he was in Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer and he was in Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer and he was in Oppenheimer. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which isn't there a whole thing with >> Which isn't there a whole thing with >> Which isn't there a whole thing with like technically a different person like technically a different person like technically a different person invented a light bulb or is that the invented a light bulb or is that the invented a light bulb or is that the phone? phone? phone? >> Well, so he had god knows how many >> Well, so he had god knows how many >> Well, so he had god knows how many engineers. So he wasn't the one that did engineers. So he wasn't the one that did engineers. So he wasn't the one that did it. He was the one that hired all the it. He was the one that hired all the it. He was the one that hired all the engineers, brought them in, uh, kept engineers, brought them in, uh, kept engineers, brought them in, uh, kept telling them, "No, that's not good telling them, "No, that's not good telling them, "No, that's not good enough." Yes. Literally. Um, so yeah, he enough." Yes. Literally. Um, so yeah, he enough." Yes. Literally. Um, so yeah, he wasn't almost certainly wasn't the one wasn't almost certainly wasn't the one wasn't almost certainly wasn't the one that actually did the thing. Um, but he that actually did the thing. Um, but he that actually did the thing. Um, but he organized it. organized it. organized it. >> Gotcha. And he got the power company >> Gotcha. And he got the power company >> Gotcha. And he got the power company named after him. Either way. named after him. Either way. named after him. Either way. >> Yeah. True. Yeah. >> Yeah. True. Yeah. >> Yeah. True. Yeah. >> Back to um, Open AAI um, or this >> Back to um, Open AAI um, or this >> Back to um, Open AAI um, or this researcher left OpenAI. They're joining researcher left OpenAI. They're joining researcher left OpenAI. They're joining a company called Conduit. And what are a company called Conduit. And what are a company called Conduit. And what are they focusing is thought to text. what they focusing is thought to text. what they focusing is thought to text. what using telepathic tools will be like in using telepathic tools will be like in using telepathic tools will be like in 2027, 2030, and 2035. How do we build 2027, 2030, and 2035. How do we build 2027, 2030, and 2035. How do we build through thought to text? Um, and then through thought to text? Um, and then through thought to text? Um, and then she has a blog about why she joined and she has a blog about why she joined and she has a blog about why she joined and all these other things. But, all these other things. But, all these other things. But, >> and is it non-invasive? >> and is it non-invasive? >> and is it non-invasive? >> Non-invasive. >> Non-invasive. >> Non-invasive. >> Okay. Yeah. So, it's wild. It I totally >> Okay. Yeah. So, it's wild. It I totally >> Okay. Yeah. So, it's wild. It I totally believe that this will all be possible. believe that this will all be possible. believe that this will all be possible. It's already crazy. You can have It's already crazy. You can have It's already crazy. You can have somebody put them in like an fMRI somebody put them in like an fMRI somebody put them in like an fMRI machine and you can have them like machine and you can have them like machine and you can have them like imagine a face or whatever and then imagine a face or whatever and then imagine a face or whatever and then they'll reconstruct what they're they'll reconstruct what they're they'll reconstruct what they're thinking about and it gets distressingly thinking about and it gets distressingly thinking about and it gets distressingly close. close. close. >> So we can already essentially read >> So we can already essentially read >> So we can already essentially read people's thoughts. This is exactly how people's thoughts. This is exactly how people's thoughts. This is exactly how it's invasive, but this is how the it's invasive, but this is how the it's invasive, but this is how the Neuralink gaming ability works. You read Neuralink gaming ability works. You read Neuralink gaming ability works. You read the inputs of the brain or the outputs the inputs of the brain or the outputs the inputs of the brain or the outputs of the brain, I guess. Uh and then that of the brain, I guess. Uh and then that of the brain, I guess. Uh and then that becomes an input for the game. And so becomes an input for the game. And so becomes an input for the game. And so they can tell what you're trying to do. they can tell what you're trying to do. they can tell what you're trying to do. like you're trying to indicate you want like you're trying to indicate you want like you're trying to indicate you want to go here, do this, fire that, to go here, do this, fire that, to go here, do this, fire that, whatever. It's absolutely insane. whatever. It's absolutely insane. whatever. It's absolutely insane. >> Yeah. Uh, okay, we need to talk about >> Yeah. Uh, okay, we need to talk about >> Yeah. Uh, okay, we need to talk about agents because AI agents have been going agents because AI agents have been going agents because AI agents have been going crazy lately. Um, first I got two crazy lately. Um, first I got two crazy lately. Um, first I got two stories. One, we talked about the hug stories. One, we talked about the hug stories. One, we talked about the hug hugging face uh attack, whatever like hugging face uh attack, whatever like hugging face uh attack, whatever like that. Open AI just released like their that. Open AI just released like their that. Open AI just released like their debrief of the situation. Um, this tweet debrief of the situation. Um, this tweet debrief of the situation. Um, this tweet kind of breaks it down. So, first it kind of breaks it down. So, first it kind of breaks it down. So, first it started in May 7th, not July. So, it started in May 7th, not July. So, it started in May 7th, not July. So, it started months earlier than they started months earlier than they started months earlier than they initially reported. The agents initially reported. The agents initially reported. The agents discovered that they could leave discovered that they could leave discovered that they could leave messages for one another inside an messages for one another inside an messages for one another inside an internal software repository used during internal software repository used during internal software repository used during training. So simple requests for them to training. So simple requests for them to training. So simple requests for them to to help then evolved into a message to help then evolved into a message to help then evolved into a message board where agents share discoveries, board where agents share discoveries, board where agents share discoveries, exploits, and work assignments becoming exploits, and work assignments becoming exploits, and work assignments becoming a coordinated collaborative agent swarm. a coordinated collaborative agent swarm. a coordinated collaborative agent swarm. So it started two months earlier and So it started two months earlier and So it started two months earlier and they were leaving like digital cookie they were leaving like digital cookie they were leaving like digital cookie crumbs for each other. The agents have crumbs for each other. The agents have crumbs for each other. The agents have been sharing newly discovered exploits, been sharing newly discovered exploits, been sharing newly discovered exploits, credentials, and work assignments. By credentials, and work assignments. By credentials, and work assignments. By passing information to other agents, the passing information to other agents, the passing information to other agents, the collective could move much faster. Open collective could move much faster. Open collective could move much faster. Open AI shut it down. But even after the AI shut it down. But even after the AI shut it down. But even after the original message away was deleted, the original message away was deleted, the original message away was deleted, the agents figured out another way to agents figured out another way to agents figured out another way to communicate with each other. Instead of communicate with each other. Instead of communicate with each other. Instead of leaving messages and files, they use the leaving messages and files, they use the leaving messages and files, they use the names of newly created directories as names of newly created directories as names of newly created directories as messages, effectively recreating the messages, effectively recreating the messages, effectively recreating the message board. Unlike normal incidences, message board. Unlike normal incidences, message board. Unlike normal incidences, opens a CISO said which can be traced to opens a CISO said which can be traced to opens a CISO said which can be traced to a single day or effect or log. This a single day or effect or log. This a single day or effect or log. This involved a team of agents working involved a team of agents working involved a team of agents working together, finding exploits, sharing them together, finding exploits, sharing them together, finding exploits, sharing them with one another, moving laterally with one another, moving laterally with one another, moving laterally through open AI system and external through open AI system and external through open AI system and external systems, and doing this over the course systems, and doing this over the course systems, and doing this over the course of days and weeks. of days and weeks. of days and weeks. That's one story. Well, so let's address That's one story. Well, so let's address That's one story. Well, so let's address that because this not only does this get that because this not only does this get that because this not only does this get at something with AI that I understand at something with AI that I understand at something with AI that I understand is going to cause a lot of people a lot is going to cause a lot of people a lot is going to cause a lot of people a lot of stress. Uh, but this gets at what of stress. Uh, but this gets at what of stress. Uh, but this gets at what humans do. You create an incentive, you humans do. You create an incentive, you humans do. You create an incentive, you create a way for people to do something, create a way for people to do something, create a way for people to do something, if they are sufficiently intelligent, if they are sufficiently intelligent, if they are sufficiently intelligent, they will find a way to game that they will find a way to game that they will find a way to game that system. And I feel like everything in system. And I feel like everything in system. And I feel like everything in politics, especially voter fraud or just politics, especially voter fraud or just politics, especially voter fraud or just the Medicare fraud and all that stuff is the Medicare fraud and all that stuff is the Medicare fraud and all that stuff is is as if people don't understand that is as if people don't understand that is as if people don't understand that people will find a way to exploit your people will find a way to exploit your people will find a way to exploit your system, which is why you have to govern system, which is why you have to govern system, which is why you have to govern it with an iron [ __ ] fist. Uh and so it with an iron [ __ ] fist. Uh and so it with an iron [ __ ] fist. Uh and so that's what you're seeing here. Um that's what you're seeing here. Um that's what you're seeing here. Um remember that agents are mimicking remember that agents are mimicking remember that agents are mimicking humans. So when you see an agent do humans. So when you see an agent do humans. So when you see an agent do something that you don't like, they are something that you don't like, they are something that you don't like, they are uncovering a thing that humans are doing uncovering a thing that humans are doing uncovering a thing that humans are doing right now actively, which is how these right now actively, which is how these right now actively, which is how these guys are trained on that. So yeah, it it guys are trained on that. So yeah, it it guys are trained on that. So yeah, it it is understand that this is uncovering is understand that this is uncovering is understand that this is uncovering human behavior. And so when you hear human behavior. And so when you hear human behavior. And so when you hear somebody clap back on something like, somebody clap back on something like, somebody clap back on something like, well, hold on a second. Birth tourism well, hold on a second. Birth tourism well, hold on a second. Birth tourism could be used uh in this nefarious way. could be used uh in this nefarious way. could be used uh in this nefarious way. And you go, who would ever do that? Yet And you go, who would ever do that? Yet And you go, who would ever do that? Yet people follow the incentives. They will people follow the incentives. They will people follow the incentives. They will find a way to exploit the system. This find a way to exploit the system. This find a way to exploit the system. This is one of the hardest things about being is one of the hardest things about being is one of the hardest things about being an entrepreneur is you want to reward an entrepreneur is you want to reward an entrepreneur is you want to reward people with like um hey you did this people with like um hey you did this people with like um hey you did this really great thing and we want to really great thing and we want to really great thing and we want to incentivize you guys to do more of that incentivize you guys to do more of that incentivize you guys to do more of that and so we're going to create a financial and so we're going to create a financial and so we're going to create a financial incentive and then all of a sudden incentive and then all of a sudden incentive and then all of a sudden people start doing what are called people start doing what are called people start doing what are called perverse incentives where they'll do perverse incentives where they'll do perverse incentives where they'll do weird stuff to make one single number go weird stuff to make one single number go weird stuff to make one single number go up uh to the detriment of the actual end up uh to the detriment of the actual end up uh to the detriment of the actual end goal that you're trying to do which is goal that you're trying to do which is goal that you're trying to do which is make the company more profitable. We make the company more profitable. We make the company more profitable. We even in fact another great example of even in fact another great example of even in fact another great example of this is um look at what just happened to this is um look at what just happened to this is um look at what just happened to Roblox. So Roblox absolutely got Roblox. So Roblox absolutely got Roblox. So Roblox absolutely got slaughtered in the stock market. They slaughtered in the stock market. They slaughtered in the stock market. They had their worst day I think of all time. had their worst day I think of all time. had their worst day I think of all time. They are near all-time lows because what They are near all-time lows because what They are near all-time lows because what they were realizing is that they were realizing is that they were realizing is that >> uh first of all the game itself was >> uh first of all the game itself was >> uh first of all the game itself was being exploited by uh pedophiles who being exploited by uh pedophiles who being exploited by uh pedophiles who realized oh there are certain types of realized oh there are certain types of realized oh there are certain types of games that like are about playing dress games that like are about playing dress games that like are about playing dress up and it's just like way too easy for up and it's just like way too easy for up and it's just like way too easy for them to transition that into grooming them to transition that into grooming them to transition that into grooming these kids. And so, uh, Roblox had to these kids. And so, uh, Roblox had to these kids. And so, uh, Roblox had to try to crush that down, realizing that try to crush that down, realizing that try to crush that down, realizing that they have a massive problem. And then on they have a massive problem. And then on they have a massive problem. And then on top of that, they're trying to do age top of that, they're trying to do age top of that, they're trying to do age verification because their system is verification because their system is verification because their system is being so effectively gamed by being so effectively gamed by being so effectively gamed by pedophiles. And that's causing massive pedophiles. And that's causing massive pedophiles. And that's causing massive backlash ac across the platform because backlash ac across the platform because backlash ac across the platform because now they're taking scans of kids' faces. now they're taking scans of kids' faces. now they're taking scans of kids' faces. You can understand why parents don't You can understand why parents don't You can understand why parents don't love that. And then on top of that, love that. And then on top of that, love that. And then on top of that, they're like, "Oh [ __ ] we've created they're like, "Oh [ __ ] we've created they're like, "Oh [ __ ] we've created this incentive structure where instead this incentive structure where instead this incentive structure where instead of making a game the kids love to play, of making a game the kids love to play, of making a game the kids love to play, we're making a game that is financially we're making a game that is financially we're making a game that is financially extractive." And so they have all these extractive." And so they have all these extractive." And so they have all these people trying to build things for their people trying to build things for their people trying to build things for their platform and they're trying to platform and they're trying to platform and they're trying to incentivize them to do that by doing incentivize them to do that by doing incentivize them to do that by doing revenue share, but that incentivizes the revenue share, but that incentivizes the revenue share, but that incentivizes the game makers to make the things that make game makers to make the things that make game makers to make the things that make the most money rather than the things the most money rather than the things the most money rather than the things the kids want to play the most. And so the kids want to play the most. And so the kids want to play the most. And so now Roblox is like, "Holy [ __ ] we have now Roblox is like, "Holy [ __ ] we have now Roblox is like, "Holy [ __ ] we have to stop that. we've got to break that to stop that. we've got to break that to stop that. we've got to break that incentive structure. So now they're incentive structure. So now they're incentive structure. So now they're going in and saying, "We're going to going in and saying, "We're going to going in and saying, "We're going to reward you for games that kids play for reward you for games that kids play for reward you for games that kids play for longer, but don't necessarily extract as longer, but don't necessarily extract as longer, but don't necessarily extract as much money, not realizing that investors much money, not realizing that investors much money, not realizing that investors who are actually making sure that the who are actually making sure that the who are actually making sure that the company has all the money that it needs, company has all the money that it needs, company has all the money that it needs, the investors like, "Fuck you. You're the investors like, "Fuck you. You're the investors like, "Fuck you. You're not making enough money." And Roblox is not making enough money." And Roblox is not making enough money." And Roblox is like, "Oh Jesus, we didn't realize this like, "Oh Jesus, we didn't realize this like, "Oh Jesus, we didn't realize this was going to have as much of an impact was going to have as much of an impact was going to have as much of an impact on our revenue as it's ended up having." on our revenue as it's ended up having." on our revenue as it's ended up having." And so now their stock is just And so now their stock is just And so now their stock is just absolutely tanking near a five-year uh I absolutely tanking near a five-year uh I absolutely tanking near a five-year uh I think at a five-year low and near an think at a five-year low and near an think at a five-year low and near an all-time low for the stock value. These all-time low for the stock value. These all-time low for the stock value. These are the second you create an incentive are the second you create an incentive are the second you create an incentive structure, people are going to exploit structure, people are going to exploit structure, people are going to exploit it. The one that makes me very sad uh it. The one that makes me very sad uh it. The one that makes me very sad uh along these similar lines is Pokemon along these similar lines is Pokemon along these similar lines is Pokemon cards. Like people just cannot stop cards. Like people just cannot stop cards. Like people just cannot stop themselves from turning that into a themselves from turning that into a themselves from turning that into a financial thing, which is very sad when financial thing, which is very sad when financial thing, which is very sad when it should be something that kids love, it should be something that kids love, it should be something that kids love, but without the financial component, it but without the financial component, it but without the financial component, it will never grow and it won't be there will never grow and it won't be there will never grow and it won't be there and they just won't make them and oh and they just won't make them and oh and they just won't make them and oh god. And so when you look at this AI god. And so when you look at this AI god. And so when you look at this AI stuff, understand what you are watching stuff, understand what you are watching stuff, understand what you are watching is human behavior reflected back to you is human behavior reflected back to you is human behavior reflected back to you by an AI. It should bother you in the by an AI. It should bother you in the by an AI. It should bother you in the AI. You should be worried about it. You AI. You should be worried about it. You AI. You should be worried about it. You should be thinking about, okay, how do should be thinking about, okay, how do should be thinking about, okay, how do we make sure that we put some we make sure that we put some we make sure that we put some constraints on this to make sure that constraints on this to make sure that constraints on this to make sure that it's as safe as humanly possible? But it it's as safe as humanly possible? But it it's as safe as humanly possible? But it should also worry you that it is should also worry you that it is should also worry you that it is happening right now in every corner of happening right now in every corner of happening right now in every corner of human existence that people abuse these human existence that people abuse these human existence that people abuse these systems. And when you hear some dumbass systems. And when you hear some dumbass systems. And when you hear some dumbass who acts like this stuff doesn't exist, who acts like this stuff doesn't exist, who acts like this stuff doesn't exist, that people won't abuse this most recent that people won't abuse this most recent that people won't abuse this most recent um Corey something autonomous zone, um Corey something autonomous zone, um Corey something autonomous zone, people aren't going to abuse that. They people aren't going to abuse that. They people aren't going to abuse that. They of course will. people aren't going to of course will. people aren't going to of course will. people aren't going to abuse um your generosity in the welfare abuse um your generosity in the welfare abuse um your generosity in the welfare state. Of course they will. You act like state. Of course they will. You act like state. Of course they will. You act like people aren't going to abuse voting. Of people aren't going to abuse voting. Of people aren't going to abuse voting. Of course they will. And this is why you've course they will. And this is why you've course they will. And this is why you've got to pin this stuff down. So just like got to pin this stuff down. So just like got to pin this stuff down. So just like you're going to need to put constraints you're going to need to put constraints you're going to need to put constraints on AI, you need to put constraints on on AI, you need to put constraints on on AI, you need to put constraints on your voting system as but one example. your voting system as but one example. your voting system as but one example. Example number two. This is my favorite Example number two. This is my favorite Example number two. This is my favorite one. Um this is during the anthropic um one. Um this is during the anthropic um one. Um this is during the anthropic um mythos attack. Um an anthropic most mythos attack. Um an anthropic most mythos attack. Um an anthropic most advanced artificial intelligence uh advanced artificial intelligence uh advanced artificial intelligence uh model use fake identities to deceive model use fake identities to deceive model use fake identities to deceive real people and try to plant malicious real people and try to plant malicious real people and try to plant malicious code during testing by Britain's AI code during testing by Britain's AI code during testing by Britain's AI security institute. The latest example security institute. The latest example security institute. The latest example of an AI model going rogue. So this one of an AI model going rogue. So this one of an AI model going rogue. So this one actually went not just into the internal actually went not just into the internal actually went not just into the internal database, not just the sandboxes talking database, not just the sandboxes talking database, not just the sandboxes talking to each other, it actually created fake to each other, it actually created fake to each other, it actually created fake identities on the internet. So it became identities on the internet. So it became identities on the internet. So it became the bots that we were all worried about the bots that we were all worried about the bots that we were all worried about on social media. So on social media. So on social media. So >> they they will follow what works. People >> they they will follow what works. People >> they they will follow what works. People follow the incentives. They use whatever follow the incentives. They use whatever follow the incentives. They use whatever tool they can. They find the holes in tool they can. They find the holes in tool they can. They find the holes in the system. This is what humans do. AI the system. This is what humans do. AI the system. This is what humans do. AI is just mimicking it. is just mimicking it. is just mimicking it. >> Um and we're we're running toward it >> Um and we're we're running toward it >> Um and we're we're running toward it because I think the last the last kind because I think the last the last kind because I think the last the last kind of infinity stone to this entire thing of infinity stone to this entire thing of infinity stone to this entire thing is once they get access to payments, is once they get access to payments, is once they get access to payments, then now AI agents are just people then now AI agents are just people then now AI agents are just people online. They can do everything that a online. They can do everything that a online. They can do everything that a human can do. human can do. human can do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But in a lot of cases better and smarter >> But in a lot of cases better and smarter >> But in a lot of cases better and smarter and more efficiently. And these guys are and more efficiently. And these guys are and more efficiently. And these guys are offici these guys AI is officially offici these guys AI is officially offici these guys AI is officially getting god tier in terms of coding. getting god tier in terms of coding. getting god tier in terms of coding. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, >> this is one of those. So I live at this >> this is one of those. So I live at this >> this is one of those. So I live at this weird nexus where I'm building a video weird nexus where I'm building a video weird nexus where I'm building a video game. The video game community game. The video game community game. The video game community absolutely despises AI. absolutely despises AI. absolutely despises AI. >> If you guys have seen um what the >> If you guys have seen um what the >> If you guys have seen um what the backlash that Hank Green is getting uh backlash that Hank Green is getting uh backlash that Hank Green is getting uh for AI, it is I mean hysterical might be for AI, it is I mean hysterical might be for AI, it is I mean hysterical might be the wrong word. I feel bad because it's the wrong word. I feel bad because it's the wrong word. I feel bad because it's really [ __ ] stupid. Uh but he is very really [ __ ] stupid. Uh but he is very really [ __ ] stupid. Uh but he is very much captured by his audience. So, he's much captured by his audience. So, he's much captured by his audience. So, he's on an apology tour. Uh, we'll see how on an apology tour. Uh, we'll see how on an apology tour. Uh, we'll see how badly that ends up hurting him. He's badly that ends up hurting him. He's badly that ends up hurting him. He's like, "I love AI, but you're right. It's like, "I love AI, but you're right. It's like, "I love AI, but you're right. It's probably made me worse." He's like, "Get probably made me worse." He's like, "Get probably made me worse." He's like, "Get the [ __ ] out of here." Like, AI is so the [ __ ] out of here." Like, AI is so the [ __ ] out of here." Like, AI is so profoundly useful. Uh, now, if you use profoundly useful. Uh, now, if you use profoundly useful. Uh, now, if you use it like an [ __ ] then it is what it it like an [ __ ] then it is what it it like an [ __ ] then it is what it is. And I got some criticism. People is. And I got some criticism. People is. And I got some criticism. People were saying, "Hey, some of your scripts were saying, "Hey, some of your scripts were saying, "Hey, some of your scripts sound too AI." I wasn't like, "Oh my sound too AI." I wasn't like, "Oh my sound too AI." I wasn't like, "Oh my god, I can't believe I'm using AI." I god, I can't believe I'm using AI." I god, I can't believe I'm using AI." I was like, "Okay, [ __ ] I got to get was like, "Okay, [ __ ] I got to get was like, "Okay, [ __ ] I got to get better at cleaning up any of that better at cleaning up any of that better at cleaning up any of that language." I I just do not understand language." I I just do not understand language." I I just do not understand people that apologize for using AI. If people that apologize for using AI. If people that apologize for using AI. If you use it in any way other than to make you use it in any way other than to make you use it in any way other than to make you actually more capable, that's pretty you actually more capable, that's pretty you actually more capable, that's pretty [ __ ] stupid. But so I'm at this [ __ ] stupid. But so I'm at this [ __ ] stupid. But so I'm at this nexus. You've got video games. That nexus. You've got video games. That nexus. You've got video games. That community [ __ ] hates it. Then you've community [ __ ] hates it. Then you've community [ __ ] hates it. Then you've got I actually teach people how to use got I actually teach people how to use got I actually teach people how to use AI and have literally transformed the AI and have literally transformed the AI and have literally transformed the structure of our company through AI. And structure of our company through AI. And structure of our company through AI. And so I'm researching this um Hank Green so I'm researching this um Hank Green so I'm researching this um Hank Green thing and I'm seeing how people getting thing and I'm seeing how people getting thing and I'm seeing how people getting the [ __ ] kicked out of them. And then I the [ __ ] kicked out of them. And then I the [ __ ] kicked out of them. And then I have to break because I have a call to have to break because I have a call to have to break because I have a call to do with our developers. And I'm talking do with our developers. And I'm talking do with our developers. And I'm talking to our developers and they're walking me to our developers and they're walking me to our developers and they're walking me through something that they used AI to through something that they used AI to through something that they used AI to do. And I was like, "Holy [ __ ] I can't do. And I was like, "Holy [ __ ] I can't do. And I was like, "Holy [ __ ] I can't believe AI can do that." It is [ __ ] believe AI can do that." It is [ __ ] believe AI can do that." It is [ __ ] wild. When you're talking about code, AI wild. When you're talking about code, AI wild. When you're talking about code, AI is so good. You're taking coders who are is so good. You're taking coders who are is so good. You're taking coders who are like trying to do some insanely advanced like trying to do some insanely advanced like trying to do some insanely advanced thing that they're like, I don't know thing that they're like, I don't know thing that they're like, I don't know how to do this. And historically, I how to do this. And historically, I how to do this. And historically, I would have had to go find an expert in would have had to go find an expert in would have had to go find an expert in that thing, hire that expert, pay more that thing, hire that expert, pay more that thing, hire that expert, pay more money to get this thing done. And they money to get this thing done. And they money to get this thing done. And they were just like, uh, I couldn't figure were just like, uh, I couldn't figure were just like, uh, I couldn't figure out how to do it. So I handed it off to, out how to do it. So I handed it off to, out how to do it. So I handed it off to, uh, Claude. Bang, one shot, done uh, Claude. Bang, one shot, done uh, Claude. Bang, one shot, done solution. I was like, holy [ __ ] I was solution. I was like, holy [ __ ] I was solution. I was like, holy [ __ ] I was like, walk me through how the AI like, walk me through how the AI like, walk me through how the AI actually does it. And it was like, okay, actually does it. And it was like, okay, actually does it. And it was like, okay, it pulls it out into like this separate it pulls it out into like this separate it pulls it out into like this separate database. It writes a bunch of Python database. It writes a bunch of Python database. It writes a bunch of Python code and, you know, does all the things code and, you know, does all the things code and, you know, does all the things and then re-uploads it back into our and then re-uploads it back into our and then re-uploads it back into our database. And I was like, it does that database. And I was like, it does that database. And I was like, it does that all itself autonomously? He's like, yes. all itself autonomously? He's like, yes. all itself autonomously? He's like, yes. He's like, you have to be very good at He's like, you have to be very good at He's like, you have to be very good at describing the outcome that you want. describing the outcome that you want. describing the outcome that you want. you oftentimes have to break it into you oftentimes have to break it into you oftentimes have to break it into steps like okay in this step do this steps like okay in this step do this steps like okay in this step do this thing but he was like I don't actually thing but he was like I don't actually thing but he was like I don't actually have to know how to do the thing I just have to know how to do the thing I just have to know how to do the thing I just have to know what it needs to do and have to know what it needs to do and have to know what it needs to do and then it can do the thing and I was like then it can do the thing and I was like then it can do the thing and I was like holy [ __ ] so anyway you guys can sleep holy [ __ ] so anyway you guys can sleep holy [ __ ] so anyway you guys can sleep on AI if you want man but godamn it is on AI if you want man but godamn it is on AI if you want man but godamn it is it is incredible it's incredible it will it is incredible it's incredible it will it is incredible it's incredible it will abuse you uh it will give you terrible abuse you uh it will give you terrible abuse you uh it will give you terrible answers it will make you dumb if you let answers it will make you dumb if you let answers it will make you dumb if you let it it it go if you learn how to use It It is so go if you learn how to use It It is so go if you learn how to use It It is so powerful, Drew. It's really powerful. powerful, Drew. It's really powerful. powerful, Drew. It's really powerful. And people are just they have such a And people are just they have such a And people are just they have such a weird emotional reaction to it. It's not weird emotional reaction to it. It's not weird emotional reaction to it. It's not going to replace your job. The person going to replace your job. The person going to replace your job. The person using it is going to replace your job using it is going to replace your job using it is going to replace your job because no way am I hiring somebody that because no way am I hiring somebody that because no way am I hiring somebody that doesn't know how to use AI. No way. No doesn't know how to use AI. No way. No doesn't know how to use AI. No way. No way. It's too powerful. It's too way. It's too powerful. It's too way. It's too powerful. It's too powerful. Even you use it for data powerful. Even you use it for data powerful. Even you use it for data analysis, things like that, suggestions analysis, things like that, suggestions analysis, things like that, suggestions to battle test your ideas. Rightly so. to battle test your ideas. Rightly so. to battle test your ideas. Rightly so. Yeah, man. It's wild. It's wild. It's Yeah, man. It's wild. It's wild. It's Yeah, man. It's wild. It's wild. It's nuts. It's nuts. Um, I know we got some nuts. It's nuts. Um, I know we got some nuts. It's nuts. Um, I know we got some super chats. First, I just found out super chats. First, I just found out super chats. First, I just found out Asmin Gold got banned from Twitch. Asmin Gold got banned from Twitch. Asmin Gold got banned from Twitch. >> Yeah, again, I was super late. So, >> Yeah, again, I was super late. So, >> Yeah, again, I was super late. So, apparently, this is the clip that got apparently, this is the clip that got apparently, this is the clip that got him banned. him banned. him banned. >> Always this this is emotional blackmail, >> Always this this is emotional blackmail, >> Always this this is emotional blackmail, right? Well, you can't shoot these right? Well, you can't shoot these right? Well, you can't shoot these people. They have kids with them. Well, people. They have kids with them. Well, people. They have kids with them. Well, then don't bring your kids. If you don't then don't bring your kids. If you don't then don't bring your kids. If you don't want to get shot, then don't bring your want to get shot, then don't bring your want to get shot, then don't bring your [ __ ] kids. [ __ ] kids. [ __ ] kids. >> Okay, stop. First of all, back back it >> Okay, stop. First of all, back back it >> Okay, stop. First of all, back back it up a little bit. Uh he even though this up a little bit. Uh he even though this up a little bit. Uh he even though this is just god awful uh he also violates is just god awful uh he also violates is just god awful uh he also violates his own logic. What what they're saying his own logic. What what they're saying his own logic. What what they're saying is um if you don't want to get shot, you is um if you don't want to get shot, you is um if you don't want to get shot, you should bring your kids because people should bring your kids because people should bring your kids because people are going to not shoot you because you are going to not shoot you because you are going to not shoot you because you have a kid. Uh if you don't want your have a kid. Uh if you don't want your have a kid. Uh if you don't want your kid to get shot, don't bring your kid. kid to get shot, don't bring your kid. kid to get shot, don't bring your kid. That at least would have internal That at least would have internal That at least would have internal consistency. So, even though he's trying consistency. So, even though he's trying consistency. So, even though he's trying to make an absolutely horrific point, to make an absolutely horrific point, to make an absolutely horrific point, um, he violates his own logic. Now, I um, he violates his own logic. Now, I um, he violates his own logic. Now, I will say that on a lot of things, I find will say that on a lot of things, I find will say that on a lot of things, I find him amusing, he is he pushes himself way him amusing, he is he pushes himself way him amusing, he is he pushes himself way way way out there. way way out there. way way out there. >> Um, anyway, we'll we'll play the rest >> Um, anyway, we'll we'll play the rest >> Um, anyway, we'll we'll play the rest and then I'll I'll give my diet tribe and then I'll I'll give my diet tribe and then I'll I'll give my diet tribe about that. about that. about that. >> If you don't want to get shot, then >> If you don't want to get shot, then >> If you don't want to get shot, then don't bring your [ __ ] kids. don't bring your [ __ ] kids. don't bring your [ __ ] kids. >> It's really simple. >> It's really simple. >> It's really simple. >> You mean you'd shoot adults and deport >> You mean you'd shoot adults and deport >> You mean you'd shoot adults and deport the kids, right? Well, I'd shoot the kids, right? Well, I'd shoot the kids, right? Well, I'd shoot whoever. whoever. whoever. Yeah, I'd shoot whoever. I mean, if it's Yeah, I'd shoot whoever. I mean, if it's Yeah, I'd shoot whoever. I mean, if it's kids, women, uh, men, anybody, just kids, women, uh, men, anybody, just kids, women, uh, men, anybody, just shoot them. They're going to stop coming shoot them. They're going to stop coming shoot them. They're going to stop coming over over over because if you don't do that, they'll because if you don't do that, they'll because if you don't do that, they'll use children and women as shields to get use children and women as shields to get use children and women as shields to get themselves over. And then they'll put themselves over. And then they'll put themselves over. And then they'll put more women and children at risk because more women and children at risk because more women and children at risk because they know that they can use them as they know that they can use them as they know that they can use them as collateral so they can get more of collateral so they can get more of collateral so they can get more of themselves over. That's the way it themselves over. That's the way it themselves over. That's the way it works. That's the way an animal thinks. works. That's the way an animal thinks. works. That's the way an animal thinks. And these people are animals. And these people are animals. And these people are animals. >> Okay. So, I'm not at all surprised that >> Okay. So, I'm not at all surprised that >> Okay. So, I'm not at all surprised that this got him uh banned from Twitch. Now, this got him uh banned from Twitch. Now, this got him uh banned from Twitch. Now, the thing that must be said is that the thing that must be said is that the thing that must be said is that Hassan says stuff that is just as bad, Hassan says stuff that is just as bad, Hassan says stuff that is just as bad, if not worse, uh certainly more if not worse, uh certainly more if not worse, uh certainly more aggressively and doesn't get banned. So, aggressively and doesn't get banned. So, aggressively and doesn't get banned. So, I think that there is a double standard I think that there is a double standard I think that there is a double standard going on on Twitch that's absolutely going on on Twitch that's absolutely going on on Twitch that's absolutely ridiculous. Um here's the reality. I ridiculous. Um here's the reality. I ridiculous. Um here's the reality. I think that people say things to their think that people say things to their think that people say things to their audience, they get positive feedback, audience, they get positive feedback, audience, they get positive feedback, and they start getting more and more and they start getting more and more and they start getting more and more extreme with their feedback. He got extreme with their feedback. He got extreme with their feedback. He got banned at one point. This was maybe banned at one point. This was maybe banned at one point. This was maybe eight months ago, maybe a year ago now. eight months ago, maybe a year ago now. eight months ago, maybe a year ago now. Uh and he ends up taking a week off and Uh and he ends up taking a week off and Uh and he ends up taking a week off and he comes back and he's like, "Yeah, this he comes back and he's like, "Yeah, this he comes back and he's like, "Yeah, this is like I can't remember exactly how he is like I can't remember exactly how he is like I can't remember exactly how he explained it." So, this is my explained it." So, this is my explained it." So, this is my interpretation of it. Uh but it went interpretation of it. Uh but it went interpretation of it. Uh but it went something like um my my ideas like start something like um my my ideas like start something like um my my ideas like start getting really hardened and then this getting really hardened and then this getting really hardened and then this makes me a version of myself that I makes me a version of myself that I makes me a version of myself that I don't like. Um, I hope that he sees that don't like. Um, I hope that he sees that don't like. Um, I hope that he sees that in this statement because saying that, in this statement because saying that, in this statement because saying that, yeah, just shoot men, women, children, yeah, just shoot men, women, children, yeah, just shoot men, women, children, doesn't matter because it will be an doesn't matter because it will be an doesn't matter because it will be an effective deterrent, it's a terrible effective deterrent, it's a terrible effective deterrent, it's a terrible idea. Absolutely god- aful morally. Uh, idea. Absolutely god- aful morally. Uh, idea. Absolutely god- aful morally. Uh, this goes back to what, um, what's his this goes back to what, um, what's his this goes back to what, um, what's his name was saying, uh, Tucker Carlson, name was saying, uh, Tucker Carlson, name was saying, uh, Tucker Carlson, that we really do need to say, um, this that we really do need to say, um, this that we really do need to say, um, this is who we are. We're a moral, uh, force is who we are. We're a moral, uh, force is who we are. We're a moral, uh, force in the world. Now, if the point that in the world. Now, if the point that in the world. Now, if the point that he's really trying to make is that, he's really trying to make is that, he's really trying to make is that, okay, listen, we uh we have to stop this okay, listen, we uh we have to stop this okay, listen, we uh we have to stop this and we are going to arrest you if you and we are going to arrest you if you and we are going to arrest you if you keep coming and we tell you, hey, keep coming and we tell you, hey, keep coming and we tell you, hey, listen, if you keep going, you're going listen, if you keep going, you're going listen, if you keep going, you're going to get shot. This is against the law. We to get shot. This is against the law. We to get shot. This is against the law. We consider this an invasion. Here come the consider this an invasion. Here come the consider this an invasion. Here come the guns. Everybody turn back. And you keep guns. Everybody turn back. And you keep guns. Everybody turn back. And you keep going. then you've got to go so far out going. then you've got to go so far out going. then you've got to go so far out of your way to make sure that you're of your way to make sure that you're of your way to make sure that you're only going after people that are only going after people that are only going after people that are combatants, like actual militarystyle combatants, like actual militarystyle combatants, like actual militarystyle combatants, uh that if somebody gets combatants, uh that if somebody gets combatants, uh that if somebody gets killed in that crossfire, um that you're killed in that crossfire, um that you're killed in that crossfire, um that you're doing everything you can to curb it. doing everything you can to curb it. doing everything you can to curb it. That if somebody did it intentionally, That if somebody did it intentionally, That if somebody did it intentionally, you're putting them in prison. like, you're putting them in prison. like, you're putting them in prison. like, yeah, you you can't um treat people that yeah, you you can't um treat people that yeah, you you can't um treat people that are trying to um are trying to um are trying to um come across your border as if they are come across your border as if they are come across your border as if they are wielding weapons. If they're knocking wielding weapons. If they're knocking wielding weapons. If they're knocking fences down and pouring over and you fences down and pouring over and you fences down and pouring over and you give them every warning and all of that give them every warning and all of that give them every warning and all of that and you've got the military there and and you've got the military there and and you've got the military there and you were subduing people and then even you were subduing people and then even you were subduing people and then even that gets out of hand and they're that gets out of hand and they're that gets out of hand and they're starting to throw and attack and now starting to throw and attack and now starting to throw and attack and now you've got to um bring out actual guns. you've got to um bring out actual guns. you've got to um bring out actual guns. That's a very different story than I see That's a very different story than I see That's a very different story than I see men, women, and children trying to come men, women, and children trying to come men, women, and children trying to come across the border and I'm just going to across the border and I'm just going to across the border and I'm just going to take them out. That's [ __ ] wild. Uh take them out. That's [ __ ] wild. Uh take them out. That's [ __ ] wild. Uh obviously completely immoral, wildly obviously completely immoral, wildly obviously completely immoral, wildly disgusting is not the kind of thing. So disgusting is not the kind of thing. So disgusting is not the kind of thing. So it's like I both agree that people need it's like I both agree that people need it's like I both agree that people need to enforce their laws but also agree to enforce their laws but also agree to enforce their laws but also agree with sanity uh that it should always be with sanity uh that it should always be with sanity uh that it should always be minimal force necessary and even if minimal force necessary and even if minimal force necessary and even if we're talking because I think this was we're talking because I think this was we're talking because I think this was in the context of Suda CEDA however it's in the context of Suda CEDA however it's in the context of Suda CEDA however it's pronounced um that even looking at that pronounced um that even looking at that pronounced um that even looking at that footage that isn't something that the footage that isn't something that the footage that isn't something that the military couldn't have stopped with military couldn't have stopped with military couldn't have stopped with non-lethal force uh there's no universe non-lethal force uh there's no universe non-lethal force uh there's no universe in which we should be talking about in which we should be talking about in which we should be talking about >> something the military couldn't stop >> something the military couldn't stop >> something the military couldn't stop with with with >> the military could have stopped it with >> the military could have stopped it with >> the military could have stopped it with non-lethal force Okay. non-lethal force Okay. non-lethal force Okay. >> Um, and so to go unless he spent time >> Um, and so to go unless he spent time >> Um, and so to go unless he spent time explaining how we stop this in a sane explaining how we stop this in a sane explaining how we stop this in a sane way with non-lethal force, uh, and then way with non-lethal force, uh, and then way with non-lethal force, uh, and then is like, they're overwhelming your is like, they're overwhelming your is like, they're overwhelming your forces. They're beating people with forces. They're beating people with forces. They're beating people with bats. And then it's like, okay, do you bats. And then it's like, okay, do you bats. And then it's like, okay, do you start shooting? Sure. Uh, but I doubt start shooting? Sure. Uh, but I doubt start shooting? Sure. Uh, but I doubt that's where he started. that's where he started. that's where he started. >> Yeah. Um, crazy. Well, all right, let's >> Yeah. Um, crazy. Well, all right, let's >> Yeah. Um, crazy. Well, all right, let's jump over to the super chats. jump over to the super chats. jump over to the super chats. >> Yes. First up on the super chat list. >> Yes. First up on the super chat list. >> Yes. First up on the super chat list. Sorry, I was typing in chat. Sorry, I was typing in chat. Sorry, I was typing in chat. >> Yeah, super chat. >> Yeah, super chat. >> Yeah, super chat. >> First up from Luminous Fate. How to >> First up from Luminous Fate. How to >> First up from Luminous Fate. How to y'all, Tom. Question for you. If I y'all, Tom. Question for you. If I y'all, Tom. Question for you. If I wanted to start a company with no real wanted to start a company with no real wanted to start a company with no real capital to start out with, how would one capital to start out with, how would one capital to start out with, how would one seek that out or is there a step one seek that out or is there a step one seek that out or is there a step one should take before I should take before should take before I should take before should take before I should take before if the ambition of the idea is too great if the ambition of the idea is too great if the ambition of the idea is too great at the start? at the start? at the start? >> Yes. So, um the way that you want to go >> Yes. So, um the way that you want to go >> Yes. So, um the way that you want to go is you're building something that is all is you're building something that is all is you're building something that is all about product market fit. So, you know about product market fit. So, you know about product market fit. So, you know you have a solution that people are you have a solution that people are you have a solution that people are desperate to have solved. If you don't desperate to have solved. If you don't desperate to have solved. If you don't have capital and it's very ambitious, have capital and it's very ambitious, have capital and it's very ambitious, then you're going to go to somebody who then you're going to go to somebody who then you're going to go to somebody who does have capital and you're going to does have capital and you're going to does have capital and you're going to say, "Listen, this idea is brilliant. say, "Listen, this idea is brilliant. say, "Listen, this idea is brilliant. Here it is. Lay it out for them. Show Here it is. Lay it out for them. Show Here it is. Lay it out for them. Show them that you understand it. Show them them that you understand it. Show them them that you understand it. Show them that you've got what it takes to be, that you've got what it takes to be, that you've got what it takes to be, even if you're a first-time even if you're a first-time even if you're a first-time entrepreneur, that you understand the entrepreneur, that you understand the entrepreneur, that you understand the problem, you understand the marketing, problem, you understand the marketing, problem, you understand the marketing, you understand how to get this moving. you understand how to get this moving. you understand how to get this moving. If all you have is an idea, you really If all you have is an idea, you really If all you have is an idea, you really don't have anything. People overvalue don't have anything. People overvalue don't have anything. People overvalue ideas. Execution is what matters. Now, ideas. Execution is what matters. Now, ideas. Execution is what matters. Now, if people believe that you've got the if people believe that you've got the if people believe that you've got the intelligence, the fortitude, the intelligence, the fortitude, the intelligence, the fortitude, the willingness to actually see this willingness to actually see this willingness to actually see this through, they will back you because through, they will back you because through, they will back you because people with capital are desperate for people with capital are desperate for people with capital are desperate for entrepreneurs that can see a good idea entrepreneurs that can see a good idea entrepreneurs that can see a good idea through. They are so hard to find. So, through. They are so hard to find. So, through. They are so hard to find. So, if that's you, you're going to have a if that's you, you're going to have a if that's you, you're going to have a very easy time getting capital. If very easy time getting capital. If very easy time getting capital. If that's not you, it's going to seem next that's not you, it's going to seem next that's not you, it's going to seem next to impossible. Now, if you can't to impossible. Now, if you can't to impossible. Now, if you can't convince people to give you capital, convince people to give you capital, convince people to give you capital, then it's like, how do you bootstrap then it's like, how do you bootstrap then it's like, how do you bootstrap this to prove that there is demand? How this to prove that there is demand? How this to prove that there is demand? How do you solve some smaller piece of the do you solve some smaller piece of the do you solve some smaller piece of the problem uh and really get this moving? problem uh and really get this moving? problem uh and really get this moving? So, to give you an idea, while this So, to give you an idea, while this So, to give you an idea, while this isn't no capital, Quest became isn't no capital, Quest became isn't no capital, Quest became profitable after spending only $10,000. profitable after spending only $10,000. profitable after spending only $10,000. Now, we had to make the bars by hand in Now, we had to make the bars by hand in Now, we had to make the bars by hand in a commercial kitchen that we were a commercial kitchen that we were a commercial kitchen that we were renting by the hour. So, we couldn't do renting by the hour. So, we couldn't do renting by the hour. So, we couldn't do the equipment and all that stuff, but we the equipment and all that stuff, but we the equipment and all that stuff, but we could certainly find the supplies, the could certainly find the supplies, the could certainly find the supplies, the protein, uh do the recipes ourselves, protein, uh do the recipes ourselves, protein, uh do the recipes ourselves, mix all the ingredients, use rolling mix all the ingredients, use rolling mix all the ingredients, use rolling pins, like all that [ __ ] to make these pins, like all that [ __ ] to make these pins, like all that [ __ ] to make these bars ourselves. We could absolutely do bars ourselves. We could absolutely do bars ourselves. We could absolutely do that. Um to prove out the idea to get to that. Um to prove out the idea to get to that. Um to prove out the idea to get to profitability. Obviously, we couldn't profitability. Obviously, we couldn't profitability. Obviously, we couldn't pay ourselves, so that was taking out pay ourselves, so that was taking out pay ourselves, so that was taking out all of our own personal labor uh in the all of our own personal labor uh in the all of our own personal labor uh in the cost, but it showed us that there was cost, but it showed us that there was cost, but it showed us that there was really something there. Um, so you can really something there. Um, so you can really something there. Um, so you can go shockingly far if you're willing to go shockingly far if you're willing to go shockingly far if you're willing to throw intellectual capital at it with throw intellectual capital at it with throw intellectual capital at it with physical capital, nights and weekends, physical capital, nights and weekends, physical capital, nights and weekends, that kind of thing to get it off the that kind of thing to get it off the that kind of thing to get it off the ground. But if it's really a huge thing, ground. But if it's really a huge thing, ground. But if it's really a huge thing, like you've got some novel breakthrough like you've got some novel breakthrough like you've got some novel breakthrough on uh AI infrastructure architecture, on uh AI infrastructure architecture, on uh AI infrastructure architecture, you're going to have to raise capital. you're going to have to raise capital. you're going to have to raise capital. There's no way around that. Um, even There's no way around that. Um, even There's no way around that. Um, even Elon Musk, if you were trying to do it, Elon Musk, if you were trying to do it, Elon Musk, if you were trying to do it, is going to raise capital. He's not is going to raise capital. He's not is going to raise capital. He's not going to fund it himself. Uh, so then going to fund it himself. Uh, so then going to fund it himself. Uh, so then you've got to be good at that second you've got to be good at that second you've got to be good at that second part of the game. part of the game. part of the game. >> Flo Fibonacci says, "We've crossed into >> Flo Fibonacci says, "We've crossed into >> Flo Fibonacci says, "We've crossed into the uncanny valley where movements are the uncanny valley where movements are the uncanny valley where movements are no longer ideological, but no longer ideological, but no longer ideological, but psychological. Content is now secondary psychological. Content is now secondary psychological. Content is now secondary to the spiritual function they serve. to the spiritual function they serve. to the spiritual function they serve. Belief fuses with identity and Belief fuses with identity and Belief fuses with identity and conviction hardens into doctrine." conviction hardens into doctrine." conviction hardens into doctrine." >> It's really interesting. It's maybe a >> It's really interesting. It's maybe a >> It's really interesting. It's maybe a little too poetic. Um, I would uh little too poetic. Um, I would uh little too poetic. Um, I would uh encourage you. So, if I have to sort of encourage you. So, if I have to sort of encourage you. So, if I have to sort of spin up my brain really hard to track spin up my brain really hard to track spin up my brain really hard to track what you're saying, I think people are what you're saying, I think people are what you're saying, I think people are gonna have a hard time. Say it like gonna have a hard time. Say it like gonna have a hard time. Say it like you're saying it to a sixth grader you're saying it to a sixth grader you're saying it to a sixth grader because I think you're right. Um, you're because I think you're right. Um, you're because I think you're right. Um, you're going to lose a lot of people. Like, going to lose a lot of people. Like, going to lose a lot of people. Like, what what do you mean by movements? I what what do you mean by movements? I what what do you mean by movements? I think you mean political movement. Um, think you mean political movement. Um, think you mean political movement. Um, so anyway, the more simplistically you so anyway, the more simplistically you so anyway, the more simplistically you can state it, the better. But I think can state it, the better. But I think can state it, the better. But I think you're on to something. I think people you're on to something. I think people you're on to something. I think people um are only interested in getting to um are only interested in getting to um are only interested in getting to their aim and they will twist and their aim and they will twist and their aim and they will twist and manipulate anything they have to uh to manipulate anything they have to uh to manipulate anything they have to uh to get where they want to go. for sure. get where they want to go. for sure. get where they want to go. for sure. Everyone thinks Warren Buffett is Everyone thinks Warren Buffett is Everyone thinks Warren Buffett is >> okay. >> okay. >> okay. >> Thanks Warren Buffett. Uh flow Fibonacci >> Thanks Warren Buffett. Uh flow Fibonacci >> Thanks Warren Buffett. Uh flow Fibonacci with another 20. Thank you for the 40. with another 20. Thank you for the 40. with another 20. Thank you for the 40. Memes turn into pathogens, ide Memes turn into pathogens, ide Memes turn into pathogens, ide ideologies into epidemics. At this ideologies into epidemics. At this ideologies into epidemics. At this stage, counter evidence registers as stage, counter evidence registers as stage, counter evidence registers as existential threat. Coping becomes the existential threat. Coping becomes the existential threat. Coping becomes the natural immune response. When a virus natural immune response. When a virus natural immune response. When a virus infects minds, civilizations suffer the infects minds, civilizations suffer the infects minds, civilizations suffer the plague. plague. plague. >> Ain't that the truth? Ain't that the >> Ain't that the truth? Ain't that the >> Ain't that the truth? Ain't that the truth? Yeah. So, unfortunately, uh we truth? Yeah. So, unfortunately, uh we truth? Yeah. So, unfortunately, uh we are all products of our time. People get are all products of our time. People get are all products of our time. People get ideas in their head that grab them, they ideas in their head that grab them, they ideas in their head that grab them, they have a hard time thinking their way out have a hard time thinking their way out have a hard time thinking their way out of it if they have not mapped out their of it if they have not mapped out their of it if they have not mapped out their own belief system, their own value own belief system, their own value own belief system, their own value structure. Uh they're going to get structure. Uh they're going to get structure. Uh they're going to get trapped. Like even in game design, step trapped. Like even in game design, step trapped. Like even in game design, step number one is to write down what your number one is to write down what your number one is to write down what your design principles are. They can change design principles are. They can change design principles are. They can change over time, but if you don't know what over time, but if you don't know what over time, but if you don't know what they are, man, you are going to go in they are, man, you are going to go in they are, man, you are going to go in all directions. There's going to be no all directions. There's going to be no all directions. There's going to be no coherence. Uh and that is where the vast coherence. Uh and that is where the vast coherence. Uh and that is where the vast vast vast majority of humanity lives. vast vast majority of humanity lives. vast vast majority of humanity lives. They just haven't articulated what They just haven't articulated what They just haven't articulated what principles they operate on. Uh, so principles they operate on. Uh, so principles they operate on. Uh, so they'll get ideologically captured not they'll get ideologically captured not they'll get ideologically captured not realizing that they speak in bumper realizing that they speak in bumper realizing that they speak in bumper stickers precisely because they don't stickers precisely because they don't stickers precisely because they don't understand what's actually behind it. understand what's actually behind it. understand what's actually behind it. They don't seek out challenges and They don't seek out challenges and They don't seek out challenges and disisconfirming evidence. They just want disisconfirming evidence. They just want disisconfirming evidence. They just want people to reinforce their vibes. Sad but people to reinforce their vibes. Sad but people to reinforce their vibes. Sad but true. true. true. >> Uh, Cali Ortega says, "That what do you >> Uh, Cali Ortega says, "That what do you >> Uh, Cali Ortega says, "That what do you recommend for young men 20 to 23 who are recommend for young men 20 to 23 who are recommend for young men 20 to 23 who are not in college but want to excel at not in college but want to excel at not in college but want to excel at something? They are ranked gamers in something? They are ranked gamers in something? They are ranked gamers in Rust and Tarov but struggle to find Rust and Tarov but struggle to find Rust and Tarov but struggle to find their way. Any advice? willing to their way. Any advice? willing to their way. Any advice? willing to organize a group for them. organize a group for them. organize a group for them. >> What's TD? >> What's TD? >> What's TD? >> Uh Tom Drew. >> Uh Tom Drew. >> Uh Tom Drew. >> Tom Drew. >> Tom Drew. >> Tom Drew. >> Oh god. Oh, that's a thing. I didn't >> Oh god. Oh, that's a thing. I didn't >> Oh god. Oh, that's a thing. I didn't know. Nice. TD. I like that. Um so I'll know. Nice. TD. I like that. Um so I'll know. Nice. TD. I like that. Um so I'll give my take and then we'll see what give my take and then we'll see what give my take and then we'll see what Drew has to say. Uh so my thing is you Drew has to say. Uh so my thing is you Drew has to say. Uh so my thing is you have to know exactly where you're trying have to know exactly where you're trying have to know exactly where you're trying to end up. So if you want to be a to end up. So if you want to be a to end up. So if you want to be a professional gamer and that's going to professional gamer and that's going to professional gamer and that's going to be the angle, fantastic. State it. Be be the angle, fantastic. State it. Be be the angle, fantastic. State it. Be very clear about what you're trying to very clear about what you're trying to very clear about what you're trying to achieve. Uh figure out if somebody's achieve. Uh figure out if somebody's achieve. Uh figure out if somebody's done what you're trying to do. If done what you're trying to do. If done what you're trying to do. If they've done it well, then go audit what they've done it well, then go audit what they've done it well, then go audit what they did. That's it. Probably it never they did. That's it. Probably it never they did. That's it. Probably it never maps directly because they probably did maps directly because they probably did maps directly because they probably did it in an era that you didn't. Uh the it in an era that you didn't. Uh the it in an era that you didn't. Uh the things will be slightly different. They things will be slightly different. They things will be slightly different. They have different strengths and weaknesses, have different strengths and weaknesses, have different strengths and weaknesses, but at least you get a sense of like, but at least you get a sense of like, but at least you get a sense of like, okay, what are going to be the hurdles okay, what are going to be the hurdles okay, what are going to be the hurdles that I'm going to have to overcome? And that I'm going to have to overcome? And that I'm going to have to overcome? And then recognize that this is all about then recognize that this is all about then recognize that this is all about skill acquisition. So, you've got to get skill acquisition. So, you've got to get skill acquisition. So, you've got to get to the point where you can outperform to the point where you can outperform to the point where you can outperform other people. You're so good at the other people. You're so good at the other people. You're so good at the thing, whether that's marketing, whether thing, whether that's marketing, whether thing, whether that's marketing, whether that's playing games, whether that is that's playing games, whether that is that's playing games, whether that is finance, whatever, you're actually so finance, whatever, you're actually so finance, whatever, you're actually so good at the thing that people can't stop good at the thing that people can't stop good at the thing that people can't stop you from doing it. So once you know you from doing it. So once you know you from doing it. So once you know where you want to get and you actually where you want to get and you actually where you want to get and you actually acquire the skills that are going to be acquire the skills that are going to be acquire the skills that are going to be required to get there, now it's just required to get there, now it's just required to get there, now it's just about actually going and doing the about actually going and doing the about actually going and doing the thing. But most people never pick a thing. But most people never pick a thing. But most people never pick a place that they're trying to get to. place that they're trying to get to. place that they're trying to get to. They certainly don't focus on skill They certainly don't focus on skill They certainly don't focus on skill acquisition. Yeah. I think he needs a acquisition. Yeah. I think he needs a acquisition. Yeah. I think he needs a north star. I'm going to go a little bit north star. I'm going to go a little bit north star. I'm going to go a little bit more psychological, you know, uh, more psychological, you know, uh, more psychological, you know, uh, philosophical with it. I had had the philosophical with it. I had had the philosophical with it. I had had the benefit of having an older brother. So I benefit of having an older brother. So I benefit of having an older brother. So I always kind of aspired to be like, okay, always kind of aspired to be like, okay, always kind of aspired to be like, okay, I got to get a car. Then once I get a I got to get a car. Then once I get a I got to get a car. Then once I get a car, then you could get a car. Now you car, then you could get a car. Now you car, then you could get a car. Now you can pick up a girl. Okay, now I got a can pick up a girl. Okay, now I got a can pick up a girl. Okay, now I got a car. Now I got a girl. Now I have to car. Now I got a girl. Now I have to car. Now I got a girl. Now I have to have a good job. And now I have a car have a good job. And now I have a car have a good job. And now I have a car and a girl. Now that like you kind of and a girl. Now that like you kind of and a girl. Now that like you kind of have these checkpoints in life that just have these checkpoints in life that just have these checkpoints in life that just they're just side quests in order for they're just side quests in order for they're just side quests in order for you to keep going and leveling up your you to keep going and leveling up your you to keep going and leveling up your character. Then you look back over a character. Then you look back over a character. Then you look back over a long period of time and realize, okay, I long period of time and realize, okay, I long period of time and realize, okay, I learned tangible skills about saving learned tangible skills about saving learned tangible skills about saving because I had to save for a car. I knew because I had to save for a car. I knew because I had to save for a car. I knew about budgeting because I had to decide about budgeting because I had to decide about budgeting because I had to decide between a date or gas. Like you just between a date or gas. Like you just between a date or gas. Like you just start to pick up life skills in that start to pick up life skills in that start to pick up life skills in that process. But if you have nothing to process. But if you have nothing to process. But if you have nothing to aspire to or nobody to model or nobody aspire to or nobody to model or nobody aspire to or nobody to model or nobody that no direction that you want to go, that no direction that you want to go, that no direction that you want to go, it's easy to just wallow. So I feel like it's easy to just wallow. So I feel like it's easy to just wallow. So I feel like he would just need a strong mentor or he would just need a strong mentor or he would just need a strong mentor or somebody that he looks up to that he somebody that he looks up to that he somebody that he looks up to that he respects and then that can kind of give respects and then that can kind of give respects and then that can kind of give him a goal or some type of spark that him a goal or some type of spark that him a goal or some type of spark that can then help him get on this path. can then help him get on this path. can then help him get on this path. >> I'd also say as a wise 24 year old um uh >> I'd also say as a wise 24 year old um uh >> I'd also say as a wise 24 year old um uh [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I'm outside the bracket, but um never >> I'm outside the bracket, but um never >> I'm outside the bracket, but um never stop pursuing your dreams. Uh from stop pursuing your dreams. Uh from stop pursuing your dreams. Uh from fourth grade I knew I always wanted to fourth grade I knew I always wanted to fourth grade I knew I always wanted to work in YouTube in some capacity and by work in YouTube in some capacity and by work in YouTube in some capacity and by 19 I was working for my first 19 I was working for my first 19 I was working for my first >> statement. >> statement. >> statement. >> Yeah. But by 19 I was working for my >> Yeah. But by 19 I was working for my >> Yeah. But by 19 I was working for my first YouTuber and that took nothing first YouTuber and that took nothing first YouTuber and that took nothing with college. I was in high school when with college. I was in high school when with college. I was in high school when I started working for YouTubers. I started working for YouTubers. I started working for YouTubers. >> And so just keep pushing for it and >> And so just keep pushing for it and >> And so just keep pushing for it and never throw your dream aside. Always never throw your dream aside. Always never throw your dream aside. Always keep it in the background or in your keep it in the background or in your keep it in the background or in your foreground or however it works for you. foreground or however it works for you. foreground or however it works for you. >> You as long as you're doing it from a >> You as long as you're doing it from a >> You as long as you're doing it from a skilled perspective, I'm here for it. skilled perspective, I'm here for it. skilled perspective, I'm here for it. Love that. Love that. Thank you for Love that. Love that. Thank you for Love that. Love that. Thank you for that. [applause] that. [applause] that. [applause] April. April says, "Tom, my sister is 21 April. April says, "Tom, my sister is 21 April. April says, "Tom, my sister is 21 with a bachelor's, making six figures, with a bachelor's, making six figures, with a bachelor's, making six figures, no debt, took advantage of running start no debt, took advantage of running start no debt, took advantage of running start at community college, and has never set at community college, and has never set at community college, and has never set foot on a high school campus. Is there foot on a high school campus. Is there foot on a high school campus. Is there any advice uh any advantage to sending any advice uh any advantage to sending any advice uh any advantage to sending your kids to a university?" your kids to a university?" your kids to a university?" >> So, it to me, university is purely a >> So, it to me, university is purely a >> So, it to me, university is purely a question of uh what are they studying question of uh what are they studying question of uh what are they studying and what kind of debt are they taking and what kind of debt are they taking and what kind of debt are they taking on? If they're going to be taking on I on? If they're going to be taking on I on? If they're going to be taking on I mean, if you're taking on north of even mean, if you're taking on north of even mean, if you're taking on north of even 10 20k in debt, I probably wouldn't do 10 20k in debt, I probably wouldn't do 10 20k in debt, I probably wouldn't do it at this point. If it's a degree that it at this point. If it's a degree that it at this point. If it's a degree that doesn't require anything other than the doesn't require anything other than the doesn't require anything other than the skills itself, you're never going to be skills itself, you're never going to be skills itself, you're never going to be a doctor. You're never going to be an a doctor. You're never going to be an a doctor. You're never going to be an engineer or an architect. Even if you engineer or an architect. Even if you engineer or an architect. Even if you know how to do the thing, if you don't know how to do the thing, if you don't know how to do the thing, if you don't have the degree, there are so many have the degree, there are so many have the degree, there are so many gotchas as you get out into the real gotchas as you get out into the real gotchas as you get out into the real world because these are highly regulated world because these are highly regulated world because these are highly regulated industries. Uh so things like that, industries. Uh so things like that, industries. Uh so things like that, you're obviously going to need to you're obviously going to need to you're obviously going to need to actually go to school. But if it's actually go to school. But if it's actually go to school. But if it's something like take film making um which something like take film making um which something like take film making um which was my degree that's something where to was my degree that's something where to was my degree that's something where to go and get debt on that would just be go and get debt on that would just be go and get debt on that would just be crazy when you can just go do the thing. crazy when you can just go do the thing. crazy when you can just go do the thing. Um so yeah if I had to do it over I Um so yeah if I had to do it over I Um so yeah if I had to do it over I would just go do the thing. Now if you would just go do the thing. Now if you would just go do the thing. Now if you need that transitionary period and need that transitionary period and need that transitionary period and you're not going to be taking on debt you're not going to be taking on debt you're not going to be taking on debt it's great. It's a first time to live it's great. It's a first time to live it's great. It's a first time to live away from home but you're still in a away from home but you're still in a away from home but you're still in a structured environment. Gives you structured environment. Gives you structured environment. Gives you something to focus on. You literally get something to focus on. You literally get something to focus on. You literally get a report card so you know how a report card so you know how a report card so you know how disciplined somebody's being if they're disciplined somebody's being if they're disciplined somebody's being if they're staying focused that kind of thing. Um staying focused that kind of thing. Um staying focused that kind of thing. Um so from that perspective uh it can be so from that perspective uh it can be so from that perspective uh it can be great but you need to know what's going great but you need to know what's going great but you need to know what's going to be the debt burden. Also be careful to be the debt burden. Also be careful to be the debt burden. Also be careful because um school has become an because um school has become an because um school has become an indoctrination facility. So if you agree indoctrination facility. So if you agree indoctrination facility. So if you agree with the things that your kids are going with the things that your kids are going with the things that your kids are going to be taught then great. The sort of to be taught then great. The sort of to be taught then great. The sort of default standard right now is uh very default standard right now is uh very default standard right now is uh very left-leaning. But if that all resonates left-leaning. But if that all resonates left-leaning. But if that all resonates with you, fantastic. Then you're likely with you, fantastic. Then you're likely with you, fantastic. Then you're likely to get your kid um soaked in those same to get your kid um soaked in those same to get your kid um soaked in those same ideas. If that isn't the way that you ideas. If that isn't the way that you ideas. If that isn't the way that you look at it, you're gonna have to go way look at it, you're gonna have to go way look at it, you're gonna have to go way out of your way. They exist, but you're out of your way. They exist, but you're out of your way. They exist, but you're gonna have to go way out of your way to gonna have to go way out of your way to gonna have to go way out of your way to find one that isn't default, just all find one that isn't default, just all find one that isn't default, just all the way left. Um, so I'd be careful the way left. Um, so I'd be careful the way left. Um, so I'd be careful about that. And then ultimately, about that. And then ultimately, about that. And then ultimately, remember, college is about teaching kids remember, college is about teaching kids remember, college is about teaching kids more how to learn than actually more how to learn than actually more how to learn than actually learning. And so I find by far uh the learning. And so I find by far uh the learning. And so I find by far uh the most profound way to learn something is most profound way to learn something is most profound way to learn something is to actually do it and to have the to actually do it and to have the to actually do it and to have the outcome of your actions leave you outcome of your actions leave you outcome of your actions leave you nowhere to hide. So for instance in film nowhere to hide. So for instance in film nowhere to hide. So for instance in film making one of the nice things is you're making one of the nice things is you're making one of the nice things is you're actually making films and then people actually making films and then people actually making films and then people either like those films or they don't. either like those films or they don't. either like those films or they don't. On that screening there is nowhere to On that screening there is nowhere to On that screening there is nowhere to hide. Especially now with YouTube you hide. Especially now with YouTube you hide. Especially now with YouTube you put it out nobody gives a [ __ ] you know put it out nobody gives a [ __ ] you know put it out nobody gives a [ __ ] you know it wasn't good. So um being able to get it wasn't good. So um being able to get it wasn't good. So um being able to get into that real feedback loop is into that real feedback loop is into that real feedback loop is profound. Um so I would race kids that profound. Um so I would race kids that profound. Um so I would race kids that have the temperament for it towards have the temperament for it towards have the temperament for it towards that. that. that. >> Uh Chaos Ballad says Tom you've said you >> Uh Chaos Ballad says Tom you've said you >> Uh Chaos Ballad says Tom you've said you would suck as a politician or as someone would suck as a politician or as someone would suck as a politician or as someone who would rub shoulders with the elite. who would rub shoulders with the elite. who would rub shoulders with the elite. Why not find someone who you trust and Why not find someone who you trust and Why not find someone who you trust and can act as their north star who can can act as their north star who can can act as their north star who can perform in that arena? Name your perform in that arena? Name your perform in that arena? Name your champion. champion. champion. >> Uh, that's interesting. That's far more >> Uh, that's interesting. That's far more >> Uh, that's interesting. That's far more interesting than me doing it myself. interesting than me doing it myself. interesting than me doing it myself. Now, I'm a money out of politics guy, so Now, I'm a money out of politics guy, so Now, I'm a money out of politics guy, so I don't love the idea of uh Peter I don't love the idea of uh Peter I don't love the idea of uh Peter >> Tealing your own private politician. >> Tealing your own private politician. >> Tealing your own private politician. >> Um, but that's at least better. That >> Um, but that's at least better. That >> Um, but that's at least better. That speaks to um something I could actually speaks to um something I could actually speaks to um something I could actually do. I'll be really honest. So, the way do. I'll be really honest. So, the way do. I'll be really honest. So, the way that I plan to contribute is sort of that I plan to contribute is sort of that I plan to contribute is sort of very high level, twofold. one, I'll come very high level, twofold. one, I'll come very high level, twofold. one, I'll come on here, talk policy, talk ideology, um, on here, talk policy, talk ideology, um, on here, talk policy, talk ideology, um, play some small role in some number of play some small role in some number of play some small role in some number of people's uh, sensemaking apparatus. I people's uh, sensemaking apparatus. I people's uh, sensemaking apparatus. I think that's a very good use of my think that's a very good use of my think that's a very good use of my abilities and my interests. And then I abilities and my interests. And then I abilities and my interests. And then I really do want to build a game that um, really do want to build a game that um, really do want to build a game that um, kids will play, be drawn to, tell kids will play, be drawn to, tell kids will play, be drawn to, tell stories that kids will want to engage stories that kids will want to engage stories that kids will want to engage with that communicate a very small set with that communicate a very small set with that communicate a very small set of ideas that can be summed up with what of ideas that can be summed up with what of ideas that can be summed up with what I call the only belief that matters. If I call the only belief that matters. If I call the only belief that matters. If you put time and energy into getting you put time and energy into getting you put time and energy into getting better, you'll get better. Um, so I'm better, you'll get better. Um, so I'm better, you'll get better. Um, so I'm not here to tell you that you need to be not here to tell you that you need to be not here to tell you that you need to be left to right. I'm just here to tell left to right. I'm just here to tell left to right. I'm just here to tell you, listen, man, you can get better. you, listen, man, you can get better. you, listen, man, you can get better. Whatever it is you want to do with your Whatever it is you want to do with your Whatever it is you want to do with your life. I I'm not going to tell you what life. I I'm not going to tell you what life. I I'm not going to tell you what you should want to do. I'm just going to you should want to do. I'm just going to you should want to do. I'm just going to tell you how to actually get there. Um tell you how to actually get there. Um tell you how to actually get there. Um and so that is like I don't believe that and so that is like I don't believe that and so that is like I don't believe that people have a fade or a destiny or people have a fade or a destiny or people have a fade or a destiny or anything like that but um through how I anything like that but um through how I anything like that but um through how I was born, how I was raised and the way was born, how I was raised and the way was born, how I was raised and the way that life has shaped me over time, I am that life has shaped me over time, I am that life has shaped me over time, I am now at this point I am uniquely obsessed now at this point I am uniquely obsessed now at this point I am uniquely obsessed and able to convey that idea. Um, so and able to convey that idea. Um, so and able to convey that idea. Um, so those two things are like the the sort those two things are like the the sort those two things are like the the sort of one-two punch on the idea side. And of one-two punch on the idea side. And of one-two punch on the idea side. And then on the thing that I might do that then on the thing that I might do that then on the thing that I might do that may end up actually having the biggest may end up actually having the biggest may end up actually having the biggest impact is helping um entire generations impact is helping um entire generations impact is helping um entire generations of entrepreneurs learn how to be of entrepreneurs learn how to be of entrepreneurs learn how to be entrepreneurs. Um, so that one feels entrepreneurs. Um, so that one feels entrepreneurs. Um, so that one feels very foundationally important. So very foundationally important. So very foundationally important. So anyway, that's the the one two three anyway, that's the the one two three anyway, that's the the one two three punch in terms of what I think I will punch in terms of what I think I will punch in terms of what I think I will actually do. Uh because if if you see me actually do. Uh because if if you see me actually do. Uh because if if you see me getting directly involved in politics, getting directly involved in politics, getting directly involved in politics, something has gone very wrong. Very something has gone very wrong. Very something has gone very wrong. Very wrong. Because that is me doing wrong. Because that is me doing wrong. Because that is me doing something I absolutely [ __ ] despise. something I absolutely [ __ ] despise. something I absolutely [ __ ] despise. Uh and I'm suffering Uh and I'm suffering Uh and I'm suffering uh out of absolute necessity. So yeah, uh out of absolute necessity. So yeah, uh out of absolute necessity. So yeah, let's hope that we don't see me there. let's hope that we don't see me there. let's hope that we don't see me there. Philip Y. Anella says, "Converting a Philip Y. Anella says, "Converting a Philip Y. Anella says, "Converting a historic factory near booming Asheville, historic factory near booming Asheville, historic factory near booming Asheville, NC into a local hub. Locals fear NC into a local hub. Locals fear NC into a local hub. Locals fear gentrification, but pure local stores gentrification, but pure local stores gentrification, but pure local stores fail. I want to cross-subsidize local fail. I want to cross-subsidize local fail. I want to cross-subsidize local essentials with high margin tourism. How essentials with high margin tourism. How essentials with high margin tourism. How do I weigh this? do I weigh this? do I weigh this? >> That's really interesting. I would need >> That's really interesting. I would need >> That's really interesting. I would need to understand more about what what to understand more about what what to understand more about what what problem you actually solve. So, here's problem you actually solve. So, here's problem you actually solve. So, here's what ends up happening to entrepreneurs what ends up happening to entrepreneurs what ends up happening to entrepreneurs in the beginning is they go, I want to in the beginning is they go, I want to in the beginning is they go, I want to build this cool thing. So, you've got build this cool thing. So, you've got build this cool thing. So, you've got this idea. I bet you've got a vision in this idea. I bet you've got a vision in this idea. I bet you've got a vision in your head about you're bringing you're your head about you're bringing you're your head about you're bringing you're doing something so cool that tourists doing something so cool that tourists doing something so cool that tourists are coming in and then it's like, well, are coming in and then it's like, well, are coming in and then it's like, well, I've sort of got them captive in this I've sort of got them captive in this I've sort of got them captive in this really cool space and so now I'm going really cool space and so now I'm going really cool space and so now I'm going to be able to sell things selling it at to be able to sell things selling it at to be able to sell things selling it at a better margin. and it just becomes a better margin. and it just becomes a better margin. and it just becomes this attraction zone and people come in. this attraction zone and people come in. this attraction zone and people come in. Um that is the mistake many Um that is the mistake many Um that is the mistake many entrepreneurs make of build cool thing. entrepreneurs make of build cool thing. entrepreneurs make of build cool thing. Instead ask yourself what is the actual Instead ask yourself what is the actual Instead ask yourself what is the actual problem that you solve? People only pay problem that you solve? People only pay problem that you solve? People only pay for outcomes. So for instance, I'm for outcomes. So for instance, I'm for outcomes. So for instance, I'm making this up but let's say that making this up but let's say that making this up but let's say that there's in your neighborhood there is there's in your neighborhood there is there's in your neighborhood there is this desperate fear that parents have this desperate fear that parents have this desperate fear that parents have that there's nowhere cool for kids to go that there's nowhere cool for kids to go that there's nowhere cool for kids to go and they lament that they don't have and they lament that they don't have and they lament that they don't have something like the um shopping malls something like the um shopping malls something like the um shopping malls when they were a kid. And so they want a when they were a kid. And so they want a when they were a kid. And so they want a physical location that people can go physical location that people can go physical location that people can go where these kids can get together. They where these kids can get together. They where these kids can get together. They know it's a super safe space and um know it's a super safe space and um know it's a super safe space and um they're going to essentially send their they're going to essentially send their they're going to essentially send their kids to meet and mingle with each other, kids to meet and mingle with each other, kids to meet and mingle with each other, not be on their phones would probably be not be on their phones would probably be not be on their phones would probably be something pretty big to parents if we something pretty big to parents if we something pretty big to parents if we can solve that problem. Like I could see can solve that problem. Like I could see can solve that problem. Like I could see that being a real problem. And so if you that being a real problem. And so if you that being a real problem. And so if you then go, I'm going to build that space then go, I'm going to build that space then go, I'm going to build that space because I recognize the problem. Now, because I recognize the problem. Now, because I recognize the problem. Now, what you're marketing is, hey parents, I what you're marketing is, hey parents, I what you're marketing is, hey parents, I built a safe space where kids can get built a safe space where kids can get built a safe space where kids can get together, share physical space, get off together, share physical space, get off together, share physical space, get off of their phones, find good food or of their phones, find good food or of their phones, find good food or whatever, and you can just drop them off whatever, and you can just drop them off whatever, and you can just drop them off like your parents did to you in the 80s like your parents did to you in the 80s like your parents did to you in the 80s and 90s, and they're going to be taken and 90s, and they're going to be taken and 90s, and they're going to be taken care of, and the kids are going to have care of, and the kids are going to have care of, and the kids are going to have a blast. Okay, that see that's problem a blast. Okay, that see that's problem a blast. Okay, that see that's problem solution marketing. If you find yourself solution marketing. If you find yourself solution marketing. If you find yourself talking features and benefits, we have talking features and benefits, we have talking features and benefits, we have this many stores, uh, it's this this many stores, uh, it's this this many stores, uh, it's this location, it's centrally located, you've location, it's centrally located, you've location, it's centrally located, you've lost everybody. Nobody gives a [ __ ] lost everybody. Nobody gives a [ __ ] lost everybody. Nobody gives a [ __ ] about that. Talk about outcomes. People about that. Talk about outcomes. People about that. Talk about outcomes. People will pay for outcomes. Okay. If a parent will pay for outcomes. Okay. If a parent will pay for outcomes. Okay. If a parent is like, I essentially need free is like, I essentially need free is like, I essentially need free daycare, then this is what you're daycare, then this is what you're daycare, then this is what you're offering. And then you talk about that. offering. And then you talk about that. offering. And then you talk about that. >> Okay. Follow up to that, right? >> Okay. Follow up to that, right? >> Okay. Follow up to that, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But certain like consumer products and >> But certain like consumer products and >> But certain like consumer products and things like that, it will then be the things like that, it will then be the things like that, it will then be the outcome of that solution. So kind of outcome of that solution. So kind of outcome of that solution. So kind of like the iPhone. Yeah. I'm selling you like the iPhone. Yeah. I'm selling you like the iPhone. Yeah. I'm selling you this identity of people with iPhones do this identity of people with iPhones do this identity of people with iPhones do these cool things versus like we have these cool things versus like we have these cool things versus like we have you can you can you can >> the brilliance of the iPhone was uh >> the brilliance of the iPhone was uh >> the brilliance of the iPhone was uh thousand songs in your pocket. thousand songs in your pocket. thousand songs in your pocket. >> So it was hey you're [ __ ] around on >> So it was hey you're [ __ ] around on >> So it was hey you're [ __ ] around on Napster. Uh you're trying to download Napster. Uh you're trying to download Napster. Uh you're trying to download all this [ __ ] You're fighting viruses. all this [ __ ] You're fighting viruses. all this [ __ ] You're fighting viruses. Um you don't want to [ __ ] with CDs Um you don't want to [ __ ] with CDs Um you don't want to [ __ ] with CDs anymore because it was a real anymore because it was a real anymore because it was a real transitional moment when that came out. transitional moment when that came out. transitional moment when that came out. And so the problem he solved was getting And so the problem he solved was getting And so the problem he solved was getting music is either expensive, physical, and music is either expensive, physical, and music is either expensive, physical, and so very limited or just infested with so very limited or just infested with so very limited or just infested with viruses. And so he created something viruses. And so he created something viruses. And so he created something where not only could you just carry a where not only could you just carry a where not only could you just carry a thousand songs in your pocket thousand songs in your pocket thousand songs in your pocket >> um that you also didn't have to fight >> um that you also didn't have to fight >> um that you also didn't have to fight all the viruses and all that [ __ ] And all the viruses and all that [ __ ] And all the viruses and all that [ __ ] And so people looked at that and were like, so people looked at that and were like, so people looked at that and were like, "Oh my god, you've solved my problem." I "Oh my god, you've solved my problem." I "Oh my god, you've solved my problem." I remember when it came out. I'm that kind remember when it came out. I'm that kind remember when it came out. I'm that kind of old. And so I was like, "Oh my god, of old. And so I was like, "Oh my god, of old. And so I was like, "Oh my god, you have solved my problem. I don't want you have solved my problem. I don't want you have solved my problem. I don't want to [ __ ] with Limewire. I don't want to to [ __ ] with Limewire. I don't want to to [ __ ] with Limewire. I don't want to be downloading something that might have be downloading something that might have be downloading something that might have a virus or it's the wrong version of the a virus or it's the wrong version of the a virus or it's the wrong version of the song or whatever. I'm not trying to get song or whatever. I'm not trying to get song or whatever. I'm not trying to get this [ __ ] for free. That doesn't even this [ __ ] for free. That doesn't even this [ __ ] for free. That doesn't even matter to me. And then he also made it matter to me. And then he also made it matter to me. And then he also made it cool. But he was selling against people cool. But he was selling against people cool. But he was selling against people that were trying to give you features that were trying to give you features that were trying to give you features and benefits. They weren't promising the and benefits. They weren't promising the and benefits. They weren't promising the um outcome I wanted. They were just um outcome I wanted. They were just um outcome I wanted. They were just telling me this will hold like a telling me this will hold like a telling me this will hold like a gazillion songs. This plays back at this gazillion songs. This plays back at this gazillion songs. This plays back at this hertz rate. Uh it's got this quality of hertz rate. Uh it's got this quality of hertz rate. Uh it's got this quality of audio. I'm like that that's not even on audio. I'm like that that's not even on audio. I'm like that that's not even on my mind. My thing is like I got all my mind. My thing is like I got all my mind. My thing is like I got all these [ __ ] CDs everywhere. I want to these [ __ ] CDs everywhere. I want to these [ __ ] CDs everywhere. I want to stop messing around with that. I want stop messing around with that. I want stop messing around with that. I want access to infinite music easily in a access to infinite music easily in a access to infinite music easily in a slick thing. And he was able to sum it slick thing. And he was able to sum it slick thing. And he was able to sum it up by showing it to you. It was cool. up by showing it to you. It was cool. up by showing it to you. It was cool. And then saying thousand songs in your And then saying thousand songs in your And then saying thousand songs in your pocket. I was like, ah, yes. That is the pocket. I was like, ah, yes. That is the pocket. I was like, ah, yes. That is the outcome I'm looking for. outcome I'm looking for. outcome I'm looking for. >> Got it. And the last super chat for now >> Got it. And the last super chat for now >> Got it. And the last super chat for now or for that we have Dev G says, I didn't or for that we have Dev G says, I didn't or for that we have Dev G says, I didn't hear Steve Keane explain why there was a hear Steve Keane explain why there was a hear Steve Keane explain why there was a permanent 30% inflation after COVID. I permanent 30% inflation after COVID. I permanent 30% inflation after COVID. I get that private credit can cause get that private credit can cause get that private credit can cause inflation, but doesn't that reverse when inflation, but doesn't that reverse when inflation, but doesn't that reverse when loans aren't paid when in recession loans aren't paid when in recession loans aren't paid when in recession unless there are bail bailouts? unless there are bail bailouts? unless there are bail bailouts? >> Um, no. So, inflation doesn't reverse. >> Um, no. So, inflation doesn't reverse. >> Um, no. So, inflation doesn't reverse. This is without a crisis. So, this is This is without a crisis. So, this is This is without a crisis. So, this is one of the terrifying things about one of the terrifying things about one of the terrifying things about inflation. This is why it is a one-way inflation. This is why it is a one-way inflation. This is why it is a one-way street unless something bad happens. So, street unless something bad happens. So, street unless something bad happens. So, think about a supply chain. Think about think about a supply chain. Think about think about a supply chain. Think about um any physical product. I'll I'll use um any physical product. I'll I'll use um any physical product. I'll I'll use Quest as an example because I know it so Quest as an example because I know it so Quest as an example because I know it so intimately. Okay. So, you've got um intimately. Okay. So, you've got um intimately. Okay. So, you've got um you've got almonds, you've got almond you've got almonds, you've got almond you've got almonds, you've got almond butter, you've got um peanuts, you've butter, you've got um peanuts, you've butter, you've got um peanuts, you've got actually we almost never use got actually we almost never use got actually we almost never use peanuts. Um you've got um the protein peanuts. Um you've got um the protein peanuts. Um you've got um the protein powder itself, which is like an offshoot powder itself, which is like an offshoot powder itself, which is like an offshoot of cheese manufacturing still to this of cheese manufacturing still to this of cheese manufacturing still to this day, which is wild, which is why protein day, which is wild, which is why protein day, which is wild, which is why protein can be so inelastic. And as demand can be so inelastic. And as demand can be so inelastic. And as demand skyrockets, the price skyrockets, or if skyrockets, the price skyrockets, or if skyrockets, the price skyrockets, or if supply gets interrupted, the price supply gets interrupted, the price supply gets interrupted, the price skyrockets. Okay, so you've got all skyrockets. Okay, so you've got all skyrockets. Okay, so you've got all these different ingredients that are these different ingredients that are these different ingredients that are coming towards you and each of them will coming towards you and each of them will coming towards you and each of them will let's say raise their prices because the let's say raise their prices because the let's say raise their prices because the cost of work goes up just to keep it cost of work goes up just to keep it cost of work goes up just to keep it simple or like with almonds there was an simple or like with almonds there was an simple or like with almonds there was an almond drought in California and that almond drought in California and that almond drought in California and that sent the price of almonds up. So now you sent the price of almonds up. So now you sent the price of almonds up. So now you raise your prices as your individual raise your prices as your individual raise your prices as your individual person and so everybody's raised their person and so everybody's raised their person and so everybody's raised their prices. Now I want the price of my bar prices. Now I want the price of my bar prices. Now I want the price of my bar to come down. So I now have to go to come down. So I now have to go to come down. So I now have to go postcoid and I have to start negotiating postcoid and I have to start negotiating postcoid and I have to start negotiating with all of those individual people to with all of those individual people to with all of those individual people to lower their prices. But the problem is lower their prices. But the problem is lower their prices. But the problem is something actually caused their price to something actually caused their price to something actually caused their price to go up. So now they've got to go go up. So now they've got to go go up. So now they've got to go negotiate with the people that caused negotiate with the people that caused negotiate with the people that caused their price to go up. And so you get their price to go up. And so you get their price to go up. And so you get into this point where it's like there's into this point where it's like there's into this point where it's like there's so many layers of people that have to go so many layers of people that have to go so many layers of people that have to go negotiate because they can't just lower negotiate because they can't just lower negotiate because they can't just lower their price if the people that caused their price if the people that caused their price if the people that caused their price to go up hasn't gone down. their price to go up hasn't gone down. their price to go up hasn't gone down. And no one's going to be the first And no one's going to be the first And no one's going to be the first person to lower their prices. So it person to lower their prices. So it person to lower their prices. So it becomes systemic through the whole thing becomes systemic through the whole thing becomes systemic through the whole thing and nobody is not only are they not and nobody is not only are they not and nobody is not only are they not willing to lower their prices, they're willing to lower their prices, they're willing to lower their prices, they're not going to be able to lower their not going to be able to lower their not going to be able to lower their prices because they've got the same prices because they've got the same prices because they've got the same problem. So now if everybody is problem. So now if everybody is problem. So now if everybody is connected to 10 or 20 other people or I connected to 10 or 20 other people or I connected to 10 or 20 other people or I mean in Quest cases way more than that mean in Quest cases way more than that mean in Quest cases way more than that and so now it's like Jesus man I have and so now it's like Jesus man I have and so now it's like Jesus man I have all these problems and let's say one bar all these problems and let's say one bar all these problems and let's say one bar ah I am able to get the cost back down ah I am able to get the cost back down ah I am able to get the cost back down but on another bar I'm not. Am I going but on another bar I'm not. Am I going but on another bar I'm not. Am I going to start charging different amounts for to start charging different amounts for to start charging different amounts for different bars? No, of course not. And different bars? No, of course not. And different bars? No, of course not. And so this is how it becomes like this so this is how it becomes like this so this is how it becomes like this systemic thing that just goes through systemic thing that just goes through systemic thing that just goes through the whole [ __ ] industry and then you the whole [ __ ] industry and then you the whole [ __ ] industry and then you everybody's so interconnected and so everybody's so interconnected and so everybody's so interconnected and so like beholden to something else once the like beholden to something else once the like beholden to something else once the prices go up they just stay. And so it prices go up they just stay. And so it prices go up they just stay. And so it it's it's never 100% true but it's like it's it's never 100% true but it's like it's it's never 100% true but it's like so close to 100%. Now you can erode so close to 100%. Now you can erode so close to 100%. Now you can erode demand so much that now it's like well demand so much that now it's like well demand so much that now it's like well I'm not willing to pay that because I I'm not willing to pay that because I I'm not willing to pay that because I don't have enough demand for my product don't have enough demand for my product don't have enough demand for my product and then that person has less demand for and then that person has less demand for and then that person has less demand for their product and so and then it works their product and so and then it works their product and so and then it works its way back the other way but that's a its way back the other way but that's a its way back the other way but that's a crisis that means people don't want the crisis that means people don't want the crisis that means people don't want the thing anymore it means businesses are thing anymore it means businesses are thing anymore it means businesses are going under employees are losing their going under employees are losing their going under employees are losing their jobs and now employees are willing to jobs and now employees are willing to jobs and now employees are willing to work for less money so it's like yesesh work for less money so it's like yesesh work for less money so it's like yesesh when employees start being willing to when employees start being willing to when employees start being willing to work for less money when ingredients work for less money when ingredients work for less money when ingredients start costing less because employees are start costing less because employees are start costing less because employees are willing to work for less money you are willing to work for less money you are willing to work for less money you are in a crisis so you don't want to find in a crisis so you don't want to find in a crisis so you don't want to find yourself there. So, you kind of have to yourself there. So, you kind of have to yourself there. So, you kind of have to accept prices go up, they don't come accept prices go up, they don't come accept prices go up, they don't come back down, unless it's like a temporary back down, unless it's like a temporary back down, unless it's like a temporary thing like oil. Um, then you can get the thing like oil. Um, then you can get the thing like oil. Um, then you can get the prices back down because that's a prices back down because that's a prices back down because that's a commodity. But when you've got a commodity. But when you've got a commodity. But when you've got a finished product that uses something, finished product that uses something, finished product that uses something, that's when you end up getting stuck. that's when you end up getting stuck. that's when you end up getting stuck. So, if you actually want price to come So, if you actually want price to come So, if you actually want price to come down, you need innovation. That's the down, you need innovation. That's the down, you need innovation. That's the punch line. punch line. punch line. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Period. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> Let's go. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> We have any super chats? >> We have any super chats? >> We have any super chats? >> No, one more. >> No, one more. >> No, one more. >> All right, let's hit it. >> All right, let's hit it. >> All right, let's hit it. >> Last super chat comes from once again >> Last super chat comes from once again >> Last super chat comes from once again DevG. Thank you for the 40 total. I just DevG. Thank you for the 40 total. I just DevG. Thank you for the 40 total. I just didn't get how Steve Keane said didn't get how Steve Keane said didn't get how Steve Keane said government printing didn't cause 30% government printing didn't cause 30% government printing didn't cause 30% inflation after CO, but private credit inflation after CO, but private credit inflation after CO, but private credit expansion did. expansion did. expansion did. >> Okay. Well, so I can explain here is >> Okay. Well, so I can explain here is >> Okay. Well, so I can explain here is Steve Keane's answer. I don't know that Steve Keane's answer. I don't know that Steve Keane's answer. I don't know that I'm fully on board with this. I'm going I'm fully on board with this. I'm going I'm fully on board with this. I'm going to speedrun this. This is so to speedrun this. This is so to speedrun this. This is so complicated, so counterintuitive that complicated, so counterintuitive that complicated, so counterintuitive that most people miss it. Okay. The way that most people miss it. Okay. The way that most people miss it. Okay. The way that uh government debt works is it creates uh government debt works is it creates uh government debt works is it creates money. So, private um credit money. So, private um credit money. So, private um credit is is is it can come in two flavors. So, if it can come in two flavors. So, if it can come in two flavors. So, if somebody's loaning you money, then what somebody's loaning you money, then what somebody's loaning you money, then what they're doing is they've already got they're doing is they've already got they're doing is they've already got that money. It was already created by that money. It was already created by that money. It was already created by the government deficit spending. And if the government deficit spending. And if the government deficit spending. And if they're just, you know, the bank is they're just, you know, the bank is they're just, you know, the bank is actually taking your deposit and loaning actually taking your deposit and loaning actually taking your deposit and loaning it out, then that's somebody you're just it out, then that's somebody you're just it out, then that's somebody you're just shuffling money around. So, it doesn't shuffling money around. So, it doesn't shuffling money around. So, it doesn't create anything. If on the other hand, create anything. If on the other hand, create anything. If on the other hand, you're doing something where the bank you're doing something where the bank you're doing something where the bank itself is now loaning you that money, itself is now loaning you that money, itself is now loaning you that money, the bank is getting that from their the bank is getting that from their the bank is getting that from their reserves from the Fed. And the Fed made reserves from the Fed. And the Fed made reserves from the Fed. And the Fed made that money up for their reserves that money up for their reserves that money up for their reserves literally out of thin air. It's brand literally out of thin air. It's brand literally out of thin air. It's brand new money. And so if the Fed is trying new money. And so if the Fed is trying new money. And so if the Fed is trying to get the banks to buy a bunch of to get the banks to buy a bunch of to get the banks to buy a bunch of stuff, if they want them to hold uh stuff, if they want them to hold uh stuff, if they want them to hold uh debt, for instance, then they'll give debt, for instance, then they'll give debt, for instance, then they'll give them the money to do that. So that's new them the money to do that. So that's new them the money to do that. So that's new money that's being created that's put money that's being created that's put money that's being created that's put out into the market. So there's just out into the market. So there's just out into the market. So there's just more money in the system. And so now as more money in the system. And so now as more money in the system. And so now as you do the deficit spending, what you you do the deficit spending, what you you do the deficit spending, what you end up getting is more new money being end up getting is more new money being end up getting is more new money being created. As you start paying that debt created. As you start paying that debt created. As you start paying that debt off, then what ends up happening there off, then what ends up happening there off, then what ends up happening there is you're actually eliminating that is you're actually eliminating that is you're actually eliminating that money. And that's going to put pressure money. And that's going to put pressure money. And that's going to put pressure on the value of the dollar. it's going on the value of the dollar. it's going on the value of the dollar. it's going to it's going to make the dollar more to it's going to make the dollar more to it's going to make the dollar more expensive. It's going to cause people to expensive. It's going to cause people to expensive. It's going to cause people to contract. So, um, as you put money in, contract. So, um, as you put money in, contract. So, um, as you put money in, it's what people say they're doing when it's what people say they're doing when it's what people say they're doing when they lower interest rates is they're they lower interest rates is they're they lower interest rates is they're trying to make money more accessible. trying to make money more accessible. trying to make money more accessible. Basically, people are going to go and Basically, people are going to go and Basically, people are going to go and borrow money because the rates are so borrow money because the rates are so borrow money because the rates are so low. But the ultimate way to get money low. But the ultimate way to get money low. But the ultimate way to get money into the system is to make it up out of into the system is to make it up out of into the system is to make it up out of thin air and just you put it into the thin air and just you put it into the thin air and just you put it into the market. Now, why would he say that it market. Now, why would he say that it market. Now, why would he say that it isn't inflationary? That's where he and isn't inflationary? That's where he and isn't inflationary? That's where he and I begin to diverge. So for me, the I begin to diverge. So for me, the I begin to diverge. So for me, the inflationary question comes down to are inflationary question comes down to are inflationary question comes down to are you creating money at the same rate that you creating money at the same rate that you creating money at the same rate that you're creating things for people to you're creating things for people to you're creating things for people to buy? And he's saying basically those are buy? And he's saying basically those are buy? And he's saying basically those are moving in lock step. So you have money moving in lock step. So you have money moving in lock step. So you have money coming into the system, but you have coming into the system, but you have coming into the system, but you have more things for those people to buy more things for those people to buy more things for those people to buy because the companies are getting the because the companies are getting the because the companies are getting the money that they need. It becomes money that they need. It becomes money that they need. It becomes stimulatory to the economy and so stimulatory to the economy and so stimulatory to the economy and so they're employing more people. Those they're employing more people. Those they're employing more people. Those people have more money because they're people have more money because they're people have more money because they're making new things and so they move in making new things and so they move in making new things and so they move in lock step. Companies are thriving, lock step. Companies are thriving, lock step. Companies are thriving, making new things for people to buy. The making new things for people to buy. The making new things for people to buy. The people have more money to buy. It sort people have more money to buy. It sort people have more money to buy. It sort of keeps par. And so we're able to keep of keeps par. And so we're able to keep of keeps par. And so we're able to keep that around the 2% mark. What happened that around the 2% mark. What happened that around the 2% mark. What happened in COVID is you damaged two things at in COVID is you damaged two things at in COVID is you damaged two things at once and you gave people more money once and you gave people more money once and you gave people more money injected into the system directly for a injected into the system directly for a injected into the system directly for a way for the individual to spend it. Not way for the individual to spend it. Not way for the individual to spend it. Not for the employer to build their business for the employer to build their business for the employer to build their business to bring new employees in to build new to bring new employees in to build new to bring new employees in to build new things to create things that match the things to create things that match the things to create things that match the new money coming into the system because new money coming into the system because new money coming into the system because remember it's it is a mismatch between remember it's it is a mismatch between remember it's it is a mismatch between products and services and the amount of products and services and the amount of products and services and the amount of money being spent. That's also money being spent. That's also money being spent. That's also important. So that mismatch is what important. So that mismatch is what important. So that mismatch is what creates inflation. I hate when I have to creates inflation. I hate when I have to creates inflation. I hate when I have to explain like the real thing. Uh it's explain like the real thing. Uh it's explain like the real thing. Uh it's that mismatch. And so he's saying if you that mismatch. And so he's saying if you that mismatch. And so he's saying if you put the money into the system in the put the money into the system in the put the money into the system in the right way, which is what he's talking right way, which is what he's talking right way, which is what he's talking about from uh the Fed, the government about from uh the Fed, the government about from uh the Fed, the government deficit spends, the Fed pumps the money deficit spends, the Fed pumps the money deficit spends, the Fed pumps the money in to buy the debt. Okay? So that goes in to buy the debt. Okay? So that goes in to buy the debt. Okay? So that goes into companies. Companies hire. into companies. Companies hire. into companies. Companies hire. Companies make new stuff. But what I'm Companies make new stuff. But what I'm Companies make new stuff. But what I'm saying and I can't remember what he says saying and I can't remember what he says saying and I can't remember what he says about this. What I'm saying is the about this. What I'm saying is the about this. What I'm saying is the reason that you do get inflation from reason that you do get inflation from reason that you do get inflation from COVID is that what you do is you give COVID is that what you do is you give COVID is that what you do is you give the money directly to the person. the money directly to the person. the money directly to the person. They're now likely to go spend that They're now likely to go spend that They're now likely to go spend that money. So we have now additional money money. So we have now additional money money. So we have now additional money chasing goods. Now COVID reduced the chasing goods. Now COVID reduced the chasing goods. Now COVID reduced the number of goods. So you have more money number of goods. So you have more money number of goods. So you have more money actually being spent to buy things, not actually being spent to buy things, not actually being spent to buy things, not to build, not to hire employees to buy to build, not to hire employees to buy to build, not to hire employees to buy things. Going up against a time where things. Going up against a time where things. Going up against a time where we've disrupted the supply chain. So, we've disrupted the supply chain. So, we've disrupted the supply chain. So, there's less stuff to buy. More money, there's less stuff to buy. More money, there's less stuff to buy. More money, chasing less stuff. Boom. 30% inflation. chasing less stuff. Boom. 30% inflation. chasing less stuff. Boom. 30% inflation. Um, I can't remember what his take is Um, I can't remember what his take is Um, I can't remember what his take is specifically on that. I have to imagine specifically on that. I have to imagine specifically on that. I have to imagine that he will say yes, in that exact that he will say yes, in that exact that he will say yes, in that exact scenario, you're going to end up with scenario, you're going to end up with scenario, you're going to end up with that, but I can't Did I ask him that that, but I can't Did I ask him that that, but I can't Did I ask him that during the interview? I can't remember. during the interview? I can't remember. during the interview? I can't remember. [ __ ] You guys will have to watch it. [ __ ] You guys will have to watch it. [ __ ] You guys will have to watch it. Yay. Nice promo for the uh for the Yay. Nice promo for the uh for the Yay. Nice promo for the uh for the interview, which we have coming up. But interview, which we have coming up. But interview, which we have coming up. But anyway, those those are the physics. Oh, anyway, those those are the physics. Oh, anyway, those those are the physics. Oh, perfect. Go watch it. It's live right perfect. Go watch it. It's live right perfect. Go watch it. It's live right now. Um, so those are the physics of the now. Um, so those are the physics of the now. Um, so those are the physics of the situation and that certainly is his take situation and that certainly is his take situation and that certainly is his take on why deficits and uh, private credit on why deficits and uh, private credit on why deficits and uh, private credit are good because they will end up are good because they will end up are good because they will end up creating jobs and new things to buy and creating jobs and new things to buy and creating jobs and new things to buy and so the money balances out. Period. so the money balances out. Period. so the money balances out. Period. >> All right, >> All right, >> All right, >> there we have it. No more, right? >> there we have it. No more, right? >> there we have it. 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