Chris Paul: The Unexpected Truth About Getting Older in the NBA

You have to fall in love with the You have to fall in love with the monotony. When you're really good at monotony. When you're really good at monotony. When you're really good at something, you just think, "I ain't got something, you just think, "I ain't got something, you just think, "I ain't got to change nothing." What you realize and to change nothing." What you realize and to change nothing." What you realize and you learn is that you don't know what you learn is that you don't know what you learn is that you don't know what you don't know. Somewhere, this became a you don't know. Somewhere, this became a you don't know. Somewhere, this became a mindset. Not just in sport, but whatever mindset. Not just in sport, but whatever mindset. Not just in sport, but whatever I do. I do. I do. >> If you have a million dollar raceh >> If you have a million dollar raceh >> If you have a million dollar raceh horse, you're not going to feed at horse, you're not going to feed at horse, you're not going to feed at McDonald's. Inflammation is sort of the McDonald's. Inflammation is sort of the McDonald's. Inflammation is sort of the enemy of the athlete, right? The more enemy of the athlete, right? The more enemy of the athlete, right? The more inflammation you have, it's going to inflammation you have, it's going to inflammation you have, it's going to affect your performance, your recovery, affect your performance, your recovery, affect your performance, your recovery, your longevity, everything. your longevity, everything. your longevity, everything. >> 2019 is when I went plant-based. To see >> 2019 is when I went plant-based. To see >> 2019 is when I went plant-based. To see the way inflammation disappeared for me, the way inflammation disappeared for me, the way inflammation disappeared for me, it was crazy. People don't realize your it was crazy. People don't realize your it was crazy. People don't realize your second brain is your gut. What I learned second brain is your gut. What I learned second brain is your gut. What I learned is that the thing that's passed down is that the thing that's passed down is that the thing that's passed down from generation to generation is recipes from generation to generation is recipes from generation to generation is recipes and habits. The thing that money can't and habits. The thing that money can't and habits. The thing that money can't buy you is health. Today I'm joined by buy you is health. Today I'm joined by buy you is health. Today I'm joined by NBA legend Chris Paul. He is one of the NBA legend Chris Paul. He is one of the NBA legend Chris Paul. He is one of the greatest point guards of all time. At 40 greatest point guards of all time. At 40 greatest point guards of all time. At 40 years old, he is redefining elite years old, he is redefining elite years old, he is redefining elite performance by mastering the data of his performance by mastering the data of his performance by mastering the data of his own health. own health. own health. Hey, it's Dr. Heyman. I'm so excited to Hey, it's Dr. Heyman. I'm so excited to Hey, it's Dr. Heyman. I'm so excited to share this episode with you today. But share this episode with you today. But share this episode with you today. But before we dive in, I want to get your before we dive in, I want to get your before we dive in, I want to get your help. Please take a minute to hit that help. Please take a minute to hit that help. Please take a minute to hit that subscribe button. Whether you're subscribe button. Whether you're subscribe button. 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All right, Chris, welcome to the podcast. welcome to the podcast. welcome to the podcast. >> Yes, sir. Thanks so much for having me. >> Yes, sir. Thanks so much for having me. >> Yes, sir. Thanks so much for having me. >> Yeah, thanks for being here. You know, >> Yeah, thanks for being here. You know, >> Yeah, thanks for being here. You know, people know who you are generally and if people know who you are generally and if people know who you are generally and if they don't, you're a basketball player. they don't, you're a basketball player. they don't, you're a basketball player. If you're somebody listening in health If you're somebody listening in health If you're somebody listening in health and doesn't know anything about and doesn't know anything about and doesn't know anything about basketball, basketball, basketball, >> this guy's one of the OGs. And people >> this guy's one of the OGs. And people >> this guy's one of the OGs. And people think that success like you have is sort think that success like you have is sort think that success like you have is sort of just talent that you're born with or of just talent that you're born with or of just talent that you're born with or that it's just kind of lucky. But you that it's just kind of lucky. But you that it's just kind of lucky. But you know, you talk a lot about how it's just know, you talk a lot about how it's just know, you talk a lot about how it's just a lot of hard work. And we were just a lot of hard work. And we were just a lot of hard work. And we were just chitchatting. You said you were in the chitchatting. You said you were in the chitchatting. You said you were in the gym at 7:00 this morning. You're on the gym at 7:00 this morning. You're on the gym at 7:00 this morning. You're on the court 8:30. You've been working out all court 8:30. You've been working out all court 8:30. You've been working out all morning. You you have to do the hard morning. You you have to do the hard morning. You you have to do the hard work to actually make something yourself work to actually make something yourself work to actually make something yourself in life, right? in life, right? in life, right? >> Absolutely. You know, it's funny having >> Absolutely. You know, it's funny having >> Absolutely. You know, it's funny having kids, right? I have a 16-year-old son, a kids, right? I have a 16-year-old son, a kids, right? I have a 16-year-old son, a 13-year-old daughter. Um, I think people 13-year-old daughter. Um, I think people 13-year-old daughter. Um, I think people see you now a lot of times and don't see you now a lot of times and don't see you now a lot of times and don't realize. I'm sure my kids can't imagine realize. I'm sure my kids can't imagine realize. I'm sure my kids can't imagine me when I was their age, right? I'm sure me when I was their age, right? I'm sure me when I was their age, right? I'm sure it's hard for them or they probably it's hard for them or they probably it's hard for them or they probably don't even want to think about me when don't even want to think about me when don't even want to think about me when when I was their age, but when I was their age, but when I was their age, but you don't always just have it, right? you don't always just have it, right? you don't always just have it, right? Like some people have talent, but I Like some people have talent, but I Like some people have talent, but I think you think you think you >> you have to be coached and you have to >> you have to be coached and you have to >> you have to be coached and you have to be nurtured. And sometimes it comes from be nurtured. And sometimes it comes from be nurtured. And sometimes it comes from loss, comes from defeat, loss, comes from defeat, loss, comes from defeat, >> and you just never know what's going to >> and you just never know what's going to >> and you just never know what's going to happen in your life to make you have happen in your life to make you have happen in your life to make you have that drive and that want to. I knew I that drive and that want to. I knew I that drive and that want to. I knew I wanted to make it to to the NBA when I wanted to make it to to the NBA when I wanted to make it to to the NBA when I was a kid. Didn't know I wanted to play was a kid. Didn't know I wanted to play was a kid. Didn't know I wanted to play >> to a million other kids. >> to a million other kids. >> to a million other kids. >> Exa. Exactly. Exactly. But but once you >> Exa. Exactly. Exactly. But but once you >> Exa. Exactly. Exactly. But but once you get get get >> My son wanted to be one of those guys, >> My son wanted to be one of those guys, >> My son wanted to be one of those guys, >> right? And but once you get there also, >> right? And but once you get there also, >> right? And but once you get there also, I didn't know I wanted to be 21 years. I didn't know I wanted to be 21 years. I didn't know I wanted to be 21 years. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. because there's been a lot of >> Right. because there's been a lot of >> Right. because there's been a lot of heartache along that process, but heartache along that process, but heartache along that process, but somewhere I can't even point out what somewhere I can't even point out what somewhere I can't even point out what year it was. Obviously, there's been a year it was. Obviously, there's been a year it was. Obviously, there's been a lot of setbacks here and there, but lot of setbacks here and there, but lot of setbacks here and there, but somewhere it was just this became a somewhere it was just this became a somewhere it was just this became a mindset. mindset. mindset. >> Yeah. The mindset >> Yeah. The mindset >> Yeah. The mindset >> that not just in sport, but whatever I >> that not just in sport, but whatever I >> that not just in sport, but whatever I do. do. do. >> Yeah. Well, you know, I was so touched >> Yeah. Well, you know, I was so touched >> Yeah. Well, you know, I was so touched by like reading about your story with by like reading about your story with by like reading about your story with your grandfather, Papa Jones, who's it your grandfather, Papa Jones, who's it your grandfather, Papa Jones, who's it was the first uh blackowned service was the first uh blackowned service was the first uh blackowned service station in North Carolina, and uh he station in North Carolina, and uh he station in North Carolina, and uh he worked really hard and he didn't have a worked really hard and he didn't have a worked really hard and he didn't have a lot of employees. He was the guy who ran lot of employees. He was the guy who ran lot of employees. He was the guy who ran the station and you or his employees the station and you or his employees the station and you or his employees probably didn't get, probably didn't get, probably didn't get, >> you know, and you had to show up and >> you know, and you had to show up and >> you know, and you had to show up and change the oil and change the tires and change the oil and change the tires and change the oil and change the tires and do the work. And that ethic, you know, do the work. And that ethic, you know, do the work. And that ethic, you know, of just showing up day after day doing of just showing up day after day doing of just showing up day after day doing the hard things is what actually makes the hard things is what actually makes the hard things is what actually makes people, you know, have a life that that people, you know, have a life that that people, you know, have a life that that it's worth worth living in a way. It's it's worth worth living in a way. It's it's worth worth living in a way. It's the things that you don't think about, the things that you don't think about, the things that you don't think about, right? Like you have to fall in love right? Like you have to fall in love right? Like you have to fall in love with the the monotony and going to that with the the monotony and going to that with the the monotony and going to that service station whether I wanted to or service station whether I wanted to or service station whether I wanted to or not. Um, I had to if if I wanted a new not. Um, I had to if if I wanted a new not. Um, I had to if if I wanted a new pair of shoes, my granddad was like, pair of shoes, my granddad was like, pair of shoes, my granddad was like, "You going to come work for it?" And it "You going to come work for it?" And it "You going to come work for it?" And it just instills something different into just instills something different into just instills something different into you. And as a kid, you don't always you. And as a kid, you don't always you. And as a kid, you don't always understand why you're doing these little understand why you're doing these little understand why you're doing these little tedious things, right? It's almost like tedious things, right? It's almost like tedious things, right? It's almost like that Karate Kid movie where he keeps that Karate Kid movie where he keeps that Karate Kid movie where he keeps making him put his jacket up, keeps making him put his jacket up, keeps making him put his jacket up, keeps making him put his jacket up, making him put his jacket up, making him put his jacket up, >> like the details you talking about, >> like the details you talking about, >> like the details you talking about, >> over and over again. So it's it's if you >> over and over again. So it's it's if you >> over and over again. So it's it's if you have your kids making their bed up every have your kids making their bed up every have your kids making their bed up every day and they get up and they about to day and they get up and they about to day and they get up and they about to run out the house and you like you ain't run out the house and you like you ain't run out the house and you like you ain't made your bed up, right? You don't made your bed up, right? You don't made your bed up, right? You don't appreciate some of those things until appreciate some of those things until appreciate some of those things until you get older. you get older. you get older. >> Maybe you could share the story of when >> Maybe you could share the story of when >> Maybe you could share the story of when your your your grandfather died. He was your your your grandfather died. He was your your your grandfather died. He was 61. He was a big influence on your life 61. He was a big influence on your life 61. He was a big influence on your life and you had to play a game that next and you had to play a game that next and you had to play a game that next day. You know, it just shows sort of day. You know, it just shows sort of day. You know, it just shows sort of like the story of your your mindset. like the story of your your mindset. like the story of your your mindset. >> November 14th, 2002. Um it's crazy it's >> November 14th, 2002. Um it's crazy it's >> November 14th, 2002. Um it's crazy it's been that long. Um, I signed my letter been that long. Um, I signed my letter been that long. Um, I signed my letter of intent to go to Wake Forest. Uh, it of intent to go to Wake Forest. Uh, it of intent to go to Wake Forest. Uh, it was a huge day for me and my family. My was a huge day for me and my family. My was a huge day for me and my family. My granddad was there. Uh, took off a Wake granddad was there. Uh, took off a Wake granddad was there. Uh, took off a Wake Forest hat Forest hat Forest hat >> and gave it to me and put on I put the >> and gave it to me and put on I put the >> and gave it to me and put on I put the hat on and that night me and my granddad hat on and that night me and my granddad hat on and that night me and my granddad went to go see White play. Just me and went to go see White play. Just me and went to go see White play. Just me and him. I always say that I him. I always say that I him. I always say that I >> I knew my brother went back to school. >> I knew my brother went back to school. >> I knew my brother went back to school. My parents were probably at home. Uh, My parents were probably at home. Uh, My parents were probably at home. Uh, but it was just me and my granddad cuz but it was just me and my granddad cuz but it was just me and my granddad cuz >> his wife, my grandmother had passed away >> his wife, my grandmother had passed away >> his wife, my grandmother had passed away when I was seven. And that was on when I was seven. And that was on when I was seven. And that was on November 14th. We go to the game on the November 14th. We go to the game on the November 14th. We go to the game on the 15th. Um I'm at a high school game, a 15th. Um I'm at a high school game, a 15th. Um I'm at a high school game, a Friday night, uh watching a football Friday night, uh watching a football Friday night, uh watching a football team play, and I get a phone call from team play, and I get a phone call from team play, and I get a phone call from my parents. My brother called first to my parents. My brother called first to my parents. My brother called first to tell me that he was coming back home. tell me that he was coming back home. tell me that he was coming back home. And I was like, "What you mean you're And I was like, "What you mean you're And I was like, "What you mean you're coming back home?" And he said my coming back home?" And he said my coming back home?" And he said my granddad was sick. As I was going to the granddad was sick. As I was going to the granddad was sick. As I was going to the car, a cousin stopped me and told me car, a cousin stopped me and told me car, a cousin stopped me and told me that uh they had found and murdered. that uh they had found and murdered. that uh they had found and murdered. And November 19th ended up being the And November 19th ended up being the And November 19th ended up being the funeral. And the 20th was the first game funeral. And the 20th was the first game funeral. And the 20th was the first game of my senior year. of my senior year. of my senior year. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And uh I scored 61 points in that game. >> And uh I scored 61 points in that game. >> And uh I scored 61 points in that game. And my my grandfather was 61 when he And my my grandfather was 61 when he And my my grandfather was 61 when he died. died. died. >> Well, you threw away the last You could >> Well, you threw away the last You could >> Well, you threw away the last You could have got the last shot, but you have got the last shot, but you have got the last shot, but you >> Yeah, I had 59. I had 59. My career high >> Yeah, I had 59. I had 59. My career high >> Yeah, I had 59. I had 59. My career high up to then was like 34. Wow. up to then was like 34. Wow. up to then was like 34. Wow. >> Right. So, it was absolutely a out of >> Right. So, it was absolutely a out of >> Right. So, it was absolutely a out of body experience, but um we were actually body experience, but um we were actually body experience, but um we were actually playing against my mom's old high school playing against my mom's old high school playing against my mom's old high school and all my family was in town for the and all my family was in town for the and all my family was in town for the for the funeral and um yeah, I had 59 for the funeral and um yeah, I had 59 for the funeral and um yeah, I had 59 points. I drove, points. I drove, points. I drove, made a layup and got fouled. Knew I had made a layup and got fouled. Knew I had made a layup and got fouled. Knew I had 61 and I didn't want to score anymore. 61 and I didn't want to score anymore. 61 and I didn't want to score anymore. So, I walked to the free throw line and So, I walked to the free throw line and So, I walked to the free throw line and threw the ball out of bounds. And uh my threw the ball out of bounds. And uh my threw the ball out of bounds. And uh my dad was my assistant coach and I dad was my assistant coach and I dad was my assistant coach and I remember just walking off the court remember just walking off the court remember just walking off the court falling in his arm. So, it's definitely falling in his arm. So, it's definitely falling in his arm. So, it's definitely one of the most memorable experiences one of the most memorable experiences one of the most memorable experiences I've I've ever had in sport. I've I've ever had in sport. I've I've ever had in sport. >> Yeah, I got the chills cuz you know it's >> Yeah, I got the chills cuz you know it's >> Yeah, I got the chills cuz you know it's like you you was playing through you like you you was playing through you like you you was playing through you right then, right? right then, right? right then, right? >> No question. I still have that >> No question. I still have that >> No question. I still have that basketball from that game. Um it's in a basketball from that game. Um it's in a basketball from that game. Um it's in a trophy case at my at my parents house, trophy case at my at my parents house, trophy case at my at my parents house, but my my granddad was was um was was but my my granddad was was um was was but my my granddad was was um was was everything, right? Especially at that everything, right? Especially at that everything, right? Especially at that age for me, right? cuz I lost my age for me, right? cuz I lost my age for me, right? cuz I lost my grandmother when I was seven. And you grandmother when I was seven. And you grandmother when I was seven. And you got kids, anything. You got kids. You got kids, anything. You got kids. You got kids, anything. You got kids. You got grandkids got grandkids got grandkids >> coming up. Coming up July. >> coming up. Coming up July. >> coming up. Coming up July. >> Yeah. Congrats. Congrats. Because to >> Yeah. Congrats. Congrats. Because to >> Yeah. Congrats. Congrats. Because to think of me, right, being seven when I think of me, right, being seven when I think of me, right, being seven when I lost my grandmother and 17 was when my lost my grandmother and 17 was when my lost my grandmother and 17 was when my grandfather was was murdered. My mom grandfather was was murdered. My mom grandfather was was murdered. My mom lost her mom and dad, right? And I'm so lost her mom and dad, right? And I'm so lost her mom and dad, right? And I'm so blessed to still have mom and dad. And blessed to still have mom and dad. And blessed to still have mom and dad. And now uh to see my parents and now uh to see my parents and now uh to see my parents and specifically my dad specifically my dad specifically my dad >> as a grandfather >> as a grandfather >> as a grandfather >> the way he is to my son. I just thought >> the way he is to my son. I just thought >> the way he is to my son. I just thought about this. My son is 16, right around about this. My son is 16, right around about this. My son is 16, right around that age that I was, which is um that age that I was, which is um that age that I was, which is um >> to watch that relationship and that >> to watch that relationship and that >> to watch that relationship and that dynamic dynamic dynamic >> makes me understand how it was with me >> makes me understand how it was with me >> makes me understand how it was with me and uh my granddad. and uh my granddad. and uh my granddad. >> Yeah. They're beautiful. that mindset >> Yeah. They're beautiful. that mindset >> Yeah. They're beautiful. that mindset and that determination, those those and that determination, those those and that determination, those those values that he taught you every day values that he taught you every day values that he taught you every day working in the station and doing things working in the station and doing things working in the station and doing things he did sort of helped you in your he did sort of helped you in your he did sort of helped you in your career. I mean, you you put your head career. I mean, you you put your head career. I mean, you you put your head down, you work hard, and you become who down, you work hard, and you become who down, you work hard, and you become who you become and had an incredible you become and had an incredible you become and had an incredible longevity in the NBA. Most people are longevity in the NBA. Most people are longevity in the NBA. Most people are out by the time they're in their late out by the time they're in their late out by the time they're in their late 20s, early 30s, and you're pushing up on 20s, early 30s, and you're pushing up on 20s, early 30s, and you're pushing up on 40. 40. 40. >> Yeah. I ain't pushing up. I'm there. I'm >> Yeah. I ain't pushing up. I'm there. I'm >> Yeah. I ain't pushing up. I'm there. I'm 40. 40. 40. >> Oh, you're 40. >> Oh, you're 40. >> Oh, you're 40. >> I'm 40. >> I'm 40. >> I'm 40. >> Oh, damn. I thought you were 39. Okay. >> Oh, damn. I thought you were 39. Okay. >> Oh, damn. I thought you were 39. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. >> I'm there. Yeah. >> I'm there. Yeah. >> I'm there. Yeah. >> I'm there. Yeah. So, you're like in the >> I'm there. Yeah. So, you're like in the >> I'm there. Yeah. So, you're like in the Tom Brady zone now. And you know, you Tom Brady zone now. And you know, you Tom Brady zone now. And you know, you you you kind of you you kind of you you kind of >> in the beginning of your career, you >> in the beginning of your career, you >> in the beginning of your career, you kind of had your head down, brought kind of had your head down, brought kind of had your head down, brought talent, worked really hard, but you were talent, worked really hard, but you were talent, worked really hard, but you were eating crap. Like you were sharing with eating crap. Like you were sharing with eating crap. Like you were sharing with me before, you would stop before the the me before, you would stop before the the me before, you would stop before the the games in New Orleans and games in New Orleans and games in New Orleans and >> get a McDonald's meal and then before >> get a McDonald's meal and then before >> get a McDonald's meal and then before your practice and kind of just your practice and kind of just your practice and kind of just >> kind of running on crap, right? And and >> kind of running on crap, right? And and >> kind of running on crap, right? And and you can kind of get away with that for a you can kind of get away with that for a you can kind of get away with that for a bunch of years. Like you can do that. bunch of years. Like you can do that. bunch of years. Like you can do that. And yeah, And yeah, And yeah, >> what what you want to have longevity, >> what what you want to have longevity, >> what what you want to have longevity, you can't really do that as an athlete. you can't really do that as an athlete. you can't really do that as an athlete. You can't fill your body with crap. If You can't fill your body with crap. If You can't fill your body with crap. If you have a million dollar racehorse, you have a million dollar racehorse, you have a million dollar racehorse, you're not going to feed at McDonald's, you're not going to feed at McDonald's, you're not going to feed at McDonald's, right? right? right? >> Yeah. It's it's going to be hard. It's >> Yeah. It's it's going to be hard. It's >> Yeah. It's it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard. going to be hard. going to be hard. >> So, when was it like that kind of moment >> So, when was it like that kind of moment >> So, when was it like that kind of moment where you're like, "Ah, wait. I got to where you're like, "Ah, wait. I got to where you're like, "Ah, wait. I got to if I want to have longevity in my job if I want to have longevity in my job if I want to have longevity in my job that I love." When was the moment you that I love." When was the moment you that I love." When was the moment you realized you had to focus and take care realized you had to focus and take care realized you had to focus and take care of your health? of your health? of your health? >> It's funny because when you're really >> It's funny because when you're really >> It's funny because when you're really good at something, good at something, good at something, >> right? Like when you're really good at >> right? Like when you're really good at >> right? Like when you're really good at something, you just think like, something, you just think like, something, you just think like, >> I ain't got to change nothing, right? I >> I ain't got to change nothing, right? I >> I ain't got to change nothing, right? I can just keep doing what I've been can just keep doing what I've been can just keep doing what I've been doing. And what you what you realize and doing. And what you what you realize and doing. And what you what you realize and you learn is that you don't know what you learn is that you don't know what you learn is that you don't know what you don't know. you don't know. you don't know. >> When I first came into the NBA and we >> When I first came into the NBA and we >> When I first came into the NBA and we practiced in Oklahoma City, practiced in Oklahoma City, practiced in Oklahoma City, >> uh we used to practice um at this uh >> uh we used to practice um at this uh >> uh we used to practice um at this uh junior college, uh I think it was a junior college, uh I think it was a junior college, uh I think it was a junior college. It was called Southern junior college. It was called Southern junior college. It was called Southern Nazarene University because we had got Nazarene University because we had got Nazarene University because we had got displaced because of Hurricane Katrina. displaced because of Hurricane Katrina. displaced because of Hurricane Katrina. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. Right. >> So every day on the way to practice, I >> So every day on the way to practice, I >> So every day on the way to practice, I would stop by McDonald's and I get a would stop by McDonald's and I get a would stop by McDonald's and I get a McGriddle combo. McGriddle combo. McGriddle combo. >> Mayor say I don't know what that is, but >> Mayor say I don't know what that is, but >> Mayor say I don't know what that is, but >> Oh. Mcbrr fire. It's almost like two >> Oh. Mcbrr fire. It's almost like two >> Oh. Mcbrr fire. It's almost like two pancakes. pancakes. pancakes. >> Oh, eggs and pancakes. >> Oh, eggs and pancakes. >> Oh, eggs and pancakes. >> No, no, no, no, no. Griddle combo. >> No, no, no, no, no. Griddle combo. >> No, no, no, no, no. Griddle combo. Right. I get a a sausage McGriddle, Right. I get a a sausage McGriddle, Right. I get a a sausage McGriddle, right? So, it's almost like two pancakes right? So, it's almost like two pancakes right? So, it's almost like two pancakes and then sausage in between. and then sausage in between. and then sausage in between. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Relax. >> Relax. >> Relax. >> I would get a hash. It come with a hash >> I would get a hash. It come with a hash >> I would get a hash. It come with a hash brown and a large orange juice. And I brown and a large orange juice. And I brown and a large orange juice. And I usually get an extra hash brown. And it usually get an extra hash brown. And it usually get an extra hash brown. And it was it was pizza at night. It was all was it was pizza at night. It was all was it was pizza at night. It was all these different things. was me and my these different things. was me and my these different things. was me and my brother living together. brother living together. brother living together. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It worked. >> Yeah. It worked. >> Yeah. It worked. >> Well, you you you think it's working, >> Well, you you you think it's working, >> Well, you you you think it's working, which it is, right? We winning games. which it is, right? We winning games. which it is, right? We winning games. You playing at a high level. I would You playing at a high level. I would You playing at a high level. I would >> Well, you're young, you can get away >> Well, you're young, you can get away >> Well, you're young, you can get away with stuff, but if you want to if you with stuff, but if you want to if you with stuff, but if you want to if you want to keep going for 20 years, you want to keep going for 20 years, you want to keep going for 20 years, you can't do that. can't do that. can't do that. >> I had I had to change. >> I had I had to change. >> I had I had to change. >> I had to change. >> I had to change. >> I had to change. >> So, you you had that that injury. Would >> So, you you had that that injury. Would >> So, you you had that that injury. Would you take us back to that injury that day you take us back to that injury that day you take us back to that injury that day that you kind of had that hamstring that you kind of had that hamstring that you kind of had that hamstring injury? What happened? And how it made injury? What happened? And how it made injury? What happened? And how it made you kind of shift your mindset to you kind of shift your mindset to you kind of shift your mindset to actually focus on your health a little actually focus on your health a little actually focus on your health a little bit? bit? bit? >> Yeah. So, um, I I started doing food >> Yeah. So, um, I I started doing food >> Yeah. So, um, I I started doing food sensitivity back in 2011, right? And so, sensitivity back in 2011, right? And so, sensitivity back in 2011, right? And so, I had some injuries here and there, and I had some injuries here and there, and I had some injuries here and there, and I was like, man, what what is going on? I was like, man, what what is going on? I was like, man, what what is going on? Why why do I keep getting injured? And Why why do I keep getting injured? And Why why do I keep getting injured? And I'm one of those people that I'll I'm one of those people that I'll I'm one of those people that I'll >> try whatever. I was eating right. I felt >> try whatever. I was eating right. I felt >> try whatever. I was eating right. I felt like I was hydrating, all these like I was hydrating, all these like I was hydrating, all these different things. So, I got hurt my different things. So, I got hurt my different things. So, I got hurt my first year in Houston first year in Houston first year in Houston >> uh in a very critical game in game five >> uh in a very critical game in game five >> uh in a very critical game in game five of of of >> the finals, right? Western Conference >> the finals, right? Western Conference >> the finals, right? Western Conference Finals and then I hurt my hamstring Finals and then I hurt my hamstring Finals and then I hurt my hamstring again next year again next year again next year >> and I was like, man, what what what what >> and I was like, man, what what what what >> and I was like, man, what what what what I got to do? What I got to do? I got to I got to do? What I got to do? I got to I got to do? What I got to do? I got to change something. change something. change something. >> And then what did you shift? >> And then what did you shift? >> And then what did you shift? >> Yeah. So that summer 2019 is um when I I >> Yeah. So that summer 2019 is um when I I >> Yeah. So that summer 2019 is um when I I went plant-based. I needed to try and went plant-based. I needed to try and went plant-based. I needed to try and see what that did differently for my see what that did differently for my see what that did differently for my body. And I tell you when I say body. And I tell you when I say body. And I tell you when I say the body is amazing. It's crazy. And the body is amazing. It's crazy. And the body is amazing. It's crazy. And what I've learned is too much of what I've learned is too much of what I've learned is too much of anything can be bad for you, right? But anything can be bad for you, right? But anything can be bad for you, right? But if you can try different things or if you can try different things or if you can try different things or whatnot just so that you can see what whatnot just so that you can see what whatnot just so that you can see what the body is capable of, the body is capable of, the body is capable of, >> right? And what works for you and what >> right? And what works for you and what >> right? And what works for you and what doesn't work for you, you should doesn't work for you, you should doesn't work for you, you should absolutely do that. So on that journey absolutely do that. So on that journey absolutely do that. So on that journey for me, for me, for me, >> uh, and getting a chance to see the way >> uh, and getting a chance to see the way >> uh, and getting a chance to see the way >> inflammation just disappeared for me and >> inflammation just disappeared for me and >> inflammation just disappeared for me and all of that. So it was it was crazy. all of that. So it was it was crazy. all of that. So it was it was crazy. Living a long and healthy life isn't Living a long and healthy life isn't Living a long and healthy life isn't about chasing shortcuts. It's about about chasing shortcuts. It's about about chasing shortcuts. 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So, and most people don't realize the diet that most people don't realize the diet that most people don't realize the diet that most Americans eat is super inflammatory and Americans eat is super inflammatory and Americans eat is super inflammatory and it's driving not just, you know, obesity it's driving not just, you know, obesity it's driving not just, you know, obesity and diabetes and heart disease, but it and diabetes and heart disease, but it and diabetes and heart disease, but it just makes people feel bad and makes just makes people feel bad and makes just makes people feel bad and makes people function less poorly, make people people function less poorly, make people people function less poorly, make people have brain fog and be sore and achy and have brain fog and be sore and achy and have brain fog and be sore and achy and all the things that, you know, sort of all the things that, you know, sort of all the things that, you know, sort of are subtle that people don't really are subtle that people don't really are subtle that people don't really think about are related to food. But think about are related to food. But think about are related to food. But when you change your diet, you notice when you change your diet, you notice when you change your diet, you notice it. But you you you changed your diet in it. But you you you changed your diet in it. But you you you changed your diet in 2011 from the food sensitivities. You 2011 from the food sensitivities. You 2011 from the food sensitivities. You didn't notice a big change then or you didn't notice a big change then or you didn't notice a big change then or you did? did? did? >> I did. I did notice a big change then, >> I did. I did notice a big change then, >> I did. I did notice a big change then, >> but it was more dramatic when you had >> but it was more dramatic when you had >> but it was more dramatic when you had the the the >> Yeah, it was a lot more dramatic. But >> Yeah, it was a lot more dramatic. But >> Yeah, it was a lot more dramatic. But what happened was I did the food what happened was I did the food what happened was I did the food sensitivity year in and year out, but sensitivity year in and year out, but sensitivity year in and year out, but what started changing the very first what started changing the very first what started changing the very first time I did it, I had 27 reds and time I did it, I had 27 reds and time I did it, I had 27 reds and yellows. So, anyone who doesn't know yellows. So, anyone who doesn't know yellows. So, anyone who doesn't know when you do a food sensitivity test, um when you do a food sensitivity test, um when you do a food sensitivity test, um they test they test they test um basically your allergens against like um basically your allergens against like um basically your allergens against like 200 different foods and all this stuff. 200 different foods and all this stuff. 200 different foods and all this stuff. So, you get these red, yellows, and So, you get these red, yellows, and So, you get these red, yellows, and greens back. I had 27 red yellows greens back. I had 27 red yellows greens back. I had 27 red yellows >> and it was the stuff you're eating all >> and it was the stuff you're eating all >> and it was the stuff you're eating all the time. the time. the time. >> Yeah. And we usually do it every six >> Yeah. And we usually do it every six >> Yeah. And we usually do it every six months or not. And so then it changed, months or not. And so then it changed, months or not. And so then it changed, right? Cuz as an athlete, as a as a right? Cuz as an athlete, as a as a right? Cuz as an athlete, as a as a player, everybody on the team's doing player, everybody on the team's doing player, everybody on the team's doing it. So when I when we get ours back, it. So when I when we get ours back, it. So when I when we get ours back, you're hoping you don't have but so many you're hoping you don't have but so many you're hoping you don't have but so many reds and yellows because you want to be reds and yellows because you want to be reds and yellows because you want to be able to able to able to >> eat whatever you want. >> eat whatever you want. >> eat whatever you want. >> Exactly. Yeah. And so what was funny is >> Exactly. Yeah. And so what was funny is >> Exactly. Yeah. And so what was funny is being on a team with DeAndre Jordan and being on a team with DeAndre Jordan and being on a team with DeAndre Jordan and uh Blake Griffin, right? Um it's crazy uh Blake Griffin, right? Um it's crazy uh Blake Griffin, right? Um it's crazy these little snack well cookies that these little snack well cookies that these little snack well cookies that used to be on the plane. used to be on the plane. used to be on the plane. >> Oh man. >> Oh man. >> Oh man. >> Is is sort of just what you eat when we >> Is is sort of just what you eat when we >> Is is sort of just what you eat when we playing flying and playing cards. But I playing flying and playing cards. But I playing flying and playing cards. But I remember one year that was sort of one remember one year that was sort of one remember one year that was sort of one of the ingredients was on all of our of the ingredients was on all of our of the ingredients was on all of our like red and yellows. So we would get on like red and yellows. So we would get on like red and yellows. So we would get on the plane and grab them just throw it to the plane and grab them just throw it to the plane and grab them just throw it to the other guy, right? Just throw just the other guy, right? Just throw just the other guy, right? Just throw just throw them at each other just messing throw them at each other just messing throw them at each other just messing with each other cuz you know you with each other cuz you know you with each other cuz you know you couldn't have them. couldn't have them. couldn't have them. >> Yeah. It's cool when you have >> Yeah. It's cool when you have >> Yeah. It's cool when you have accountability partners too though doing accountability partners too though doing accountability partners too though doing that as a team and sort of knowing what that as a team and sort of knowing what that as a team and sort of knowing what other guys could do or what not. It sort other guys could do or what not. It sort other guys could do or what not. It sort of holds you accountable. So, um I of holds you accountable. So, um I of holds you accountable. So, um I enjoyed it. enjoyed it. enjoyed it. >> Yeah. I mean that's powerful. I think >> Yeah. I mean that's powerful. I think >> Yeah. I mean that's powerful. I think you know what you're talking about is is you know what you're talking about is is you know what you're talking about is is is actually a food sensitivity not true is actually a food sensitivity not true is actually a food sensitivity not true allergy test and what happens is if allergy test and what happens is if allergy test and what happens is if you're eating crap then your gut becomes you're eating crap then your gut becomes you're eating crap then your gut becomes affected and you get what we call leaky affected and you get what we call leaky affected and you get what we call leaky gut and then food proteins leak in. and gut and then food proteins leak in. and gut and then food proteins leak in. and it creates inflammation and it can it creates inflammation and it can it creates inflammation and it can affect, you know, performance, recovery, affect, you know, performance, recovery, affect, you know, performance, recovery, just how you feel. And most people don't just how you feel. And most people don't just how you feel. And most people don't realize that. And so we, I mean, I realize that. And so we, I mean, I realize that. And so we, I mean, I created something called the 10-day created something called the 10-day created something called the 10-day detox diet, which essentially gets rid detox diet, which essentially gets rid detox diet, which essentially gets rid of all the most common allergens and of all the most common allergens and of all the most common allergens and inflammatory foods. inflammatory foods. inflammatory foods. >> And like in 10 days, people get rid of >> And like in 10 days, people get rid of >> And like in 10 days, people get rid of 70% of the symptoms from all kinds of 70% of the symptoms from all kinds of 70% of the symptoms from all kinds of conditions just by a very short window conditions just by a very short window conditions just by a very short window of time. And you were saying like when of time. And you were saying like when of time. And you were saying like when you did this initially, you started you did this initially, you started you did this initially, you started seeing all this sort of mucus come out, seeing all this sort of mucus come out, seeing all this sort of mucus come out, all this stuff happened when you changed all this stuff happened when you changed all this stuff happened when you changed your diet and got healthy. So, when I your diet and got healthy. So, when I your diet and got healthy. So, when I first did it, uh, it's 2019. I say, like first did it, uh, it's 2019. I say, like first did it, uh, it's 2019. I say, like I said, I say I went cold turkey or cold I said, I say I went cold turkey or cold I said, I say I went cold turkey or cold tofu or whatnot to watch my body tofu or whatnot to watch my body tofu or whatnot to watch my body transform. Um, I would sit the first transform. Um, I would sit the first transform. Um, I would sit the first three days or so, I would like literally three days or so, I would like literally three days or so, I would like literally just be sitting there and my nose would just be sitting there and my nose would just be sitting there and my nose would start running. Nose would start running start running. Nose would start running start running. Nose would start running and that was literally like the mucus and that was literally like the mucus and that was literally like the mucus like leaving my body. I think one of the like leaving my body. I think one of the like leaving my body. I think one of the biggest things that I learned what you biggest things that I learned what you biggest things that I learned what you just said was people don't realize your just said was people don't realize your just said was people don't realize your second brain is your gut. second brain is your gut. second brain is your gut. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And when you're growing up and >> Right. And when you're growing up and >> Right. And when you're growing up and especially uh being African-American and especially uh being African-American and especially uh being African-American and you seeing people with um high blood you seeing people with um high blood you seeing people with um high blood pressure um gout, my family's from the pressure um gout, my family's from the pressure um gout, my family's from the south, right? Like I'm from North south, right? Like I'm from North south, right? Like I'm from North Carolina, but my dad was born and raised Carolina, but my dad was born and raised Carolina, but my dad was born and raised in South Carolina. And my parents in South Carolina. And my parents in South Carolina. And my parents noticed. I will never forget going to noticed. I will never forget going to noticed. I will never forget going to visit my family in South Carolina when I visit my family in South Carolina when I visit my family in South Carolina when I was like we would always go every summer was like we would always go every summer was like we would always go every summer but I might have been around like six but I might have been around like six but I might have been around like six seven years old and one of like my great seven years old and one of like my great seven years old and one of like my great uncles you know you know your kids and uncles you know you know your kids and uncles you know you know your kids and you going to see like your grandparent you going to see like your grandparent you going to see like your grandparent grandparents brothers and stuff like grandparents brothers and stuff like grandparents brothers and stuff like that and I'll never forget walking in that and I'll never forget walking in that and I'll never forget walking in and looking down and seeing his foot his and looking down and seeing his foot his and looking down and seeing his foot his foot was huge swollen but as a kid and I foot was huge swollen but as a kid and I foot was huge swollen but as a kid and I got an older brother you know we like got an older brother you know we like got an older brother you know we like what what what what what what you know like your kids, you don't know, you know like your kids, you don't know, you know like your kids, you don't know, >> right? And so then when you get a little >> right? And so then when you get a little >> right? And so then when you get a little older and your parents explain to you older and your parents explain to you older and your parents explain to you what gout is and all this different type what gout is and all this different type what gout is and all this different type stuff stuff stuff >> all diet related, >> all diet related, >> all diet related, >> it is diet related, but it also comes >> it is diet related, but it also comes >> it is diet related, but it also comes from education, right? I think also food from education, right? I think also food from education, right? I think also food deserts, deserts, deserts, >> you know, what people are exposed to and >> you know, what people are exposed to and >> you know, what people are exposed to and not having those different options and not having those different options and not having those different options and all of that and different inner cities all of that and different inner cities all of that and different inner cities and all this stuff. But I think the and all this stuff. But I think the and all this stuff. But I think the thing that I've tried to do and why I've thing that I've tried to do and why I've thing that I've tried to do and why I've been so grateful for function, been so grateful for function, been so grateful for function, especially with my family, is that I'm especially with my family, is that I'm especially with my family, is that I'm 0.00001% 0.00001% 0.00001% of my family that's gotten the of my family that's gotten the of my family that's gotten the opportunity to live the life that I opportunity to live the life that I opportunity to live the life that I live. live. live. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The exposure that I've gotten, the fact >> The exposure that I've gotten, the fact >> The exposure that I've gotten, the fact that I was introduced to the food that I was introduced to the food that I was introduced to the food sensitivity test and to able to learn sensitivity test and to able to learn sensitivity test and to able to learn all this, I try to bring what I get all this, I try to bring what I get all this, I try to bring what I get informed about back to my family. Yeah. informed about back to my family. Yeah. informed about back to my family. Yeah. Because like our culture and everything Because like our culture and everything Because like our culture and everything in our family, we all say, you know, I in our family, we all say, you know, I in our family, we all say, you know, I got this different disease or whatever got this different disease or whatever got this different disease or whatever going on because my mom had it. Yeah. going on because my mom had it. Yeah. going on because my mom had it. Yeah. >> Or because my aunt had it or because >> Or because my aunt had it or because >> Or because my aunt had it or because this person had it. And what I learned this person had it. And what I learned this person had it. And what I learned is that the thing that's passed down is that the thing that's passed down is that the thing that's passed down from generation to generation is from generation to generation is from generation to generation is recipes. recipes. recipes. >> Recipes and habits. >> Recipes and habits. >> Recipes and habits. >> And habits. >> And habits. >> And habits. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Exactly. And it's it's crazy because for >> Exactly. And it's it's crazy because for >> Exactly. And it's it's crazy because for me when I talk about my first six years me when I talk about my first six years me when I talk about my first six years in the NBA, right? Like and nothing in the NBA, right? Like and nothing in the NBA, right? Like and nothing against all of this stuff, right? against all of this stuff, right? against all of this stuff, right? Because you you don't know what you Because you you don't know what you Because you you don't know what you don't know. don't know. don't know. >> But I I didn't even know sweet unsweet >> But I I didn't even know sweet unsweet >> But I I didn't even know sweet unsweet tea existed. I did I didn't even know tea existed. I did I didn't even know tea existed. I did I didn't even know there was a such thing as unsweet tea. there was a such thing as unsweet tea. there was a such thing as unsweet tea. First of all, I don't drink that. But First of all, I don't drink that. But First of all, I don't drink that. But >> like I grew up is sweet tea, right? Give >> like I grew up is sweet tea, right? Give >> like I grew up is sweet tea, right? Give give me sweet tea. Give me like you give me sweet tea. Give me like you give me sweet tea. Give me like you don't understand all the sugar, all don't understand all the sugar, all don't understand all the sugar, all these different things, right? And so these different things, right? And so these different things, right? And so just like with money, what I learned is just like with money, what I learned is just like with money, what I learned is that I have to budget. that I have to budget. that I have to budget. >> I have to budget, right? And food and >> I have to budget, right? And food and >> I have to budget, right? And food and all that should still be fun. all that should still be fun. all that should still be fun. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. Like food should still be an >> Right. Like food should still be an >> Right. Like food should still be an experience. But what I learned is I have experience. But what I learned is I have experience. But what I learned is I have to budget with different things that I to budget with different things that I to budget with different things that I eat or what I may want to eat because eat or what I may want to eat because eat or what I may want to eat because that gut thing when your gut doesn't that gut thing when your gut doesn't that gut thing when your gut doesn't feel wet, well, it'll change your whole feel wet, well, it'll change your whole feel wet, well, it'll change your whole day. It change your whole mood, day. It change your whole mood, day. It change your whole mood, attitude, and everything. It probably attitude, and everything. It probably attitude, and everything. It probably affects your game too. affects your game too. affects your game too. >> Yeah. Yeah. I used to get like bloated >> Yeah. Yeah. I used to get like bloated >> Yeah. Yeah. I used to get like bloated sometimes during games, right? Oh, sometimes during games, right? Oh, sometimes during games, right? Oh, that's just like u like real gassy and that's just like u like real gassy and that's just like u like real gassy and like burping and all this different type like burping and all this different type like burping and all this different type stuff, but you don't realize that's from stuff, but you don't realize that's from stuff, but you don't realize that's from >> a lot of the stuff that you consuming >> a lot of the stuff that you consuming >> a lot of the stuff that you consuming >> and it affects your performance. You >> and it affects your performance. You >> and it affects your performance. You know, I think you mentioned functions know, I think you mentioned functions know, I think you mentioned functions for people listening. You're talking for people listening. You're talking for people listening. You're talking about function health, which is a about function health, which is a about function health, which is a company that help gives you access to company that help gives you access to company that help gives you access to all your personal health data and you're all your personal health data and you're all your personal health data and you're head of the NBA players association for head of the NBA players association for head of the NBA players association for a long time and advocating for players. a long time and advocating for players. a long time and advocating for players. I mean they were in the 60s they were I mean they were in the 60s they were I mean they were in the 60s they were making nothing and they were taken making nothing and they were taken making nothing and they were taken advantage of and so you you know you advantage of and so you you know you advantage of and so you you know you really been one of the leading players really been one of the leading players really been one of the leading players in the last decade taking care of other in the last decade taking care of other in the last decade taking care of other players players players >> and and one of the things you did was >> and and one of the things you did was >> and and one of the things you did was sort of partner with function health to sort of partner with function health to sort of partner with function health to help get access to help get access to help get access to >> data for players so they would know >> data for players so they would know >> data for players so they would know what's going on their body and they what's going on their body and they what's going on their body and they would know what's going on with their would know what's going on with their would know what's going on with their health like and just like you've done health like and just like you've done health like and just like you've done with your your test and your you said with your your test and your you said with your your test and your you said your family's getting to actually your family's getting to actually your family's getting to actually understand this. What what what are you understand this. What what what are you understand this. What what what are you finding out about your family and what finding out about your family and what finding out about your family and what are they kind of learning from the are they kind of learning from the are they kind of learning from the >> man? Um, tell you the truth, it's it's >> man? Um, tell you the truth, it's it's >> man? Um, tell you the truth, it's it's really cool to find out the information really cool to find out the information really cool to find out the information that I'm finding out about function that I'm finding out about function that I'm finding out about function health because I'm one of two boys, health because I'm one of two boys, health because I'm one of two boys, right? I have an older brother. Yeah. right? I have an older brother. Yeah. right? I have an older brother. Yeah. >> Um, having a wife now, having a daughter >> Um, having a wife now, having a daughter >> Um, having a wife now, having a daughter also, right? So, one of the most also, right? So, one of the most also, right? So, one of the most interesting things to me was that the interesting things to me was that the interesting things to me was that the women that do the function health, you women that do the function health, you women that do the function health, you have to do it twice. You have to get have to do it twice. You have to get have to do it twice. You have to get blood work twice. One when you're on blood work twice. One when you're on blood work twice. One when you're on your cycle, one when you're off, right? your cycle, one when you're off, right? your cycle, one when you're off, right? And that's just shows like women dealing And that's just shows like women dealing And that's just shows like women dealing with a whole lot of things, right? Like with a whole lot of things, right? Like with a whole lot of things, right? Like serious like hormones and all these serious like hormones and all these serious like hormones and all these different types of things. So different types of things. So different types of things. So >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> um my wife to find out some of the >> um my wife to find out some of the >> um my wife to find out some of the information that she found out that the information that she found out that the information that she found out that the thing thing thing >> that um I appreciate so much about >> that um I appreciate so much about >> that um I appreciate so much about function health and especially people in function health and especially people in function health and especially people in general, but especially like black men. general, but especially like black men. general, but especially like black men. A lot of times we don't go to the A lot of times we don't go to the A lot of times we don't go to the doctor. doctor. doctor. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Right. Because you don't want to know. >> Right. Because you don't want to know. >> Right. Because you don't want to know. You you don't. It's uh a masculinity You you don't. It's uh a masculinity You you don't. It's uh a masculinity thing. It's a a scary thing. I think for thing. It's a a scary thing. I think for thing. It's a a scary thing. I think for me, um, me, um, me, um, >> a lot of times it's been >> a lot of times it's been >> a lot of times it's been >> like just scared. >> like just scared. >> like just scared. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. Like you don't know. You know >> Right. Like you don't know. You know >> Right. Like you don't know. You know what you're going to find. Right. what you're going to find. Right. what you're going to find. Right. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> But when you find out, you can actually >> But when you find out, you can actually >> But when you find out, you can actually >> do something. >> do something. >> do something. >> Yes. Yes. It's actually a relief when >> Yes. Yes. It's actually a relief when >> Yes. Yes. It's actually a relief when you know and you change something and you know and you change something and you know and you change something and you like, "Oh, this will help me." you like, "Oh, this will help me." you like, "Oh, this will help me." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This will help me. And >> This will help me. And >> This will help me. And >> um I told a story one time before about >> um I told a story one time before about >> um I told a story one time before about my dad. I never forget my dad 60th my dad. I never forget my dad 60th my dad. I never forget my dad 60th birthday. My dad had just turned 60 and birthday. My dad had just turned 60 and birthday. My dad had just turned 60 and um I had uh did a partnership with uh um I had uh did a partnership with uh um I had uh did a partnership with uh Just Egg, right? So my parents um my Just Egg, right? So my parents um my Just Egg, right? So my parents um my family, everybody, you know, eating Just family, everybody, you know, eating Just family, everybody, you know, eating Just Egg and stuff. And so my dad, I don't Egg and stuff. And so my dad, I don't Egg and stuff. And so my dad, I don't think people realize how just subtle think people realize how just subtle think people realize how just subtle changes of not so many juices and all of changes of not so many juices and all of changes of not so many juices and all of that and just consuming water, what that and just consuming water, what that and just consuming water, what that'll change for you. So my dad just that'll change for you. So my dad just that'll change for you. So my dad just being around and all that stuff, he made being around and all that stuff, he made being around and all that stuff, he made a few subtle changes. And my parents are a few subtle changes. And my parents are a few subtle changes. And my parents are sort of at that age and back home where sort of at that age and back home where sort of at that age and back home where unfortunately they're constantly at unfortunately they're constantly at unfortunately they're constantly at funerals. funerals. funerals. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> At funerals or friends are sick and >> At funerals or friends are sick and >> At funerals or friends are sick and diagnosed with this or that. diagnosed with this or that. diagnosed with this or that. >> Um my dad called me uh and I was on the >> Um my dad called me uh and I was on the >> Um my dad called me uh and I was on the 405 driving and my dad was crying. 405 driving and my dad was crying. 405 driving and my dad was crying. >> And so I pulled over. I said, "Dad, >> And so I pulled over. I said, "Dad, >> And so I pulled over. I said, "Dad, what's going on?" This was on FaceTime. what's going on?" This was on FaceTime. what's going on?" This was on FaceTime. And he said, And he said, And he said, >> "You're on FaceTime when you're >> "You're on FaceTime when you're >> "You're on FaceTime when you're driving." driving." driving." >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I answered. I >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I answered. I >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I answered. I answered, right? But now in cars, I got answered, right? But now in cars, I got answered, right? But now in cars, I got the little thing so you can put the the little thing so you can put the the little thing so you can put the >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> phone over there and whatnot. But I >> phone over there and whatnot. But I >> phone over there and whatnot. But I pulled over more so because my dad was pulled over more so because my dad was pulled over more so because my dad was like crying. like crying. like crying. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I called, "Dad, what's what's >> And I called, "Dad, what's what's >> And I called, "Dad, what's what's wrong?" wrong?" wrong?" >> He said he went to the doctor, >> He said he went to the doctor, >> He said he went to the doctor, >> you know, for his checkup cuz it was his >> you know, for his checkup cuz it was his >> you know, for his checkup cuz it was his birthday. And his doctor asked him what birthday. And his doctor asked him what birthday. And his doctor asked him what he was doing differently. he was doing differently. he was doing differently. >> He said, "Your numbers, your vital, all >> He said, "Your numbers, your vital, all >> He said, "Your numbers, your vital, all this stuff looks so much better." this stuff looks so much better." this stuff looks so much better." >> Yeah. And I think my dad was just so >> Yeah. And I think my dad was just so >> Yeah. And I think my dad was just so emotional because like I said for him at emotional because like I said for him at emotional because like I said for him at his age and having a lot of friends that his age and having a lot of friends that his age and having a lot of friends that he's losing and stuff and it just shows he's losing and stuff and it just shows he's losing and stuff and it just shows you you know my my biggest you you know my my biggest you you know my my biggest um maybe flex is that I have my family. um maybe flex is that I have my family. um maybe flex is that I have my family. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And selfishly um >> Right. And selfishly um >> Right. And selfishly um >> want them around. >> want them around. >> want them around. >> What exactly? I want them around even if >> What exactly? I want them around even if >> What exactly? I want them around even if they want to be hard-headed about they want to be hard-headed about they want to be hard-headed about certain things or whatnot. I I've had certain things or whatnot. I I've had certain things or whatnot. I I've had that conversation with them. I said, that conversation with them. I said, that conversation with them. I said, "You know what? At this point, it's not "You know what? At this point, it's not "You know what? At this point, it's not even about you. It's about the fact that even about you. It's about the fact that even about you. It's about the fact that I don't know what I would do without I don't know what I would do without I don't know what I would do without you." you." you." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, um that's why function health >> Right. So, um that's why function health >> Right. So, um that's why function health and making sure that we give everybody and making sure that we give everybody and making sure that we give everybody and anybody opportunity to to be better. and anybody opportunity to to be better. and anybody opportunity to to be better. >> It's true. It's like, you know, it's the >> It's true. It's like, you know, it's the >> It's true. It's like, you know, it's the biggest gift you can give someone is the biggest gift you can give someone is the biggest gift you can give someone is the gift of health. and knowing your gift of health. and knowing your gift of health. and knowing your information. You know, people are scared information. You know, people are scared information. You know, people are scared about it, but people don't realize that about it, but people don't realize that about it, but people don't realize that like over 90% of of your health is like over 90% of of your health is like over 90% of of your health is determined by what you do, your choices determined by what you do, your choices determined by what you do, your choices that you make. Like we talked about that you make. Like we talked about that you make. Like we talked about earlier about your food choices, earlier about your food choices, earlier about your food choices, exercise. You tell your dad, you know, exercise. You tell your dad, you know, exercise. You tell your dad, you know, you want to golf, you got to exercise, you want to golf, you got to exercise, you want to golf, you got to exercise, you know, get moving. you know, get moving. you know, get moving. >> And and people don't realize that you >> And and people don't realize that you >> And and people don't realize that you can modify these things. And these are can modify these things. And these are can modify these things. And these are you find your tests are not fixed. you find your tests are not fixed. you find your tests are not fixed. They're actually changeable. Whether They're actually changeable. Whether They're actually changeable. Whether it's you've got diabetes or whether it's you've got diabetes or whether it's you've got diabetes or whether you've got high blood pressure or you've you've got high blood pressure or you've you've got high blood pressure or you've got low vitamins or you've got hormones got low vitamins or you've got hormones got low vitamins or you've got hormones that are off, you can fix everything. that are off, you can fix everything. that are off, you can fix everything. And that's the thing that you know you And that's the thing that you know you And that's the thing that you know you learn with function is you actually have learn with function is you actually have learn with function is you actually have a road map on what to do. a road map on what to do. a road map on what to do. >> Exactly. And even for me being a >> Exactly. And even for me being a >> Exactly. And even for me being a professional athlete for all these years professional athlete for all these years professional athlete for all these years since I was since I was 19, there's a since I was since I was 19, there's a since I was since I was 19, there's a part of you that feels like uh part of you that feels like uh part of you that feels like uh invincible. invincible. invincible. >> Yeah. Right. Like oh that's what >> Yeah. Right. Like oh that's what >> Yeah. Right. Like oh that's what happened to them. That ain't going to happened to them. That ain't going to happened to them. That ain't going to happen to you. I'm telling you you after happen to you. I'm telling you you after happen to you. I'm telling you you after 35 then especially at 40 at 40 I'm I'm 35 then especially at 40 at 40 I'm I'm 35 then especially at 40 at 40 I'm I'm at the age where I've lost people that I at the age where I've lost people that I at the age where I've lost people that I know or people that have different you know or people that have different you know or people that have different you know sickness disease and all this know sickness disease and all this know sickness disease and all this stuff. So it becomes really real. And stuff. So it becomes really real. And stuff. So it becomes really real. And >> what did you what did you notice um and >> what did you what did you notice um and >> what did you what did you notice um and find out that you didn't know about find out that you didn't know about find out that you didn't know about yourself from from testing? yourself from from testing? yourself from from testing? >> I had really bad gut issues. Right. And >> I had really bad gut issues. Right. And >> I had really bad gut issues. Right. And I think that's from stress. I think that's from stress. I think that's from stress. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And that is the the biggest >> Right. And that is the the biggest >> Right. And that is the the biggest marker. Right. One of the things that's marker. Right. One of the things that's marker. Right. One of the things that's that's a great question you just asked that's a great question you just asked that's a great question you just asked me because when you asked me I'm like me because when you asked me I'm like me because when you asked me I'm like well there's a whole lot of things but well there's a whole lot of things but well there's a whole lot of things but one of the things that I try to play pay one of the things that I try to play pay one of the things that I try to play pay a very close attention to is cortisol. a very close attention to is cortisol. a very close attention to is cortisol. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And that's one of those things that >> And that's one of those things that >> And that's one of those things that >> it's your adrenals. Yeah. >> it's your adrenals. Yeah. >> it's your adrenals. Yeah. >> Like stress levels. You can become >> Like stress levels. You can become >> Like stress levels. You can become stressed thinking about being stressed. stressed thinking about being stressed. stressed thinking about being stressed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like seriously like >> Like seriously like >> Like seriously like >> stress is what happens between your >> stress is what happens between your >> stress is what happens between your ears. Really? Stress is what happens ears. Really? Stress is what happens ears. Really? Stress is what happens between your ears and it registers in between your ears and it registers in between your ears and it registers in your body. your body. your body. >> Yes. you think about your heart and how >> Yes. you think about your heart and how >> Yes. you think about your heart and how all this stuff can be affected. And I all this stuff can be affected. And I all this stuff can be affected. And I think for me, um, knowing the different think for me, um, knowing the different think for me, um, knowing the different gut issues that I've had have been gut issues that I've had have been gut issues that I've had have been somewhat stress related somewhat stress related somewhat stress related >> and it's trying to >> and it's trying to >> and it's trying to simplify things if you can, right? simplify things if you can, right? simplify things if you can, right? Because the hustle and bustle of life, Because the hustle and bustle of life, Because the hustle and bustle of life, y'all want to work, we want to do this, y'all want to work, we want to do this, y'all want to work, we want to do this, you want to do this, you want to do you want to do this, you want to do you want to do this, you want to do this. And so I found that I have to this. And so I found that I have to this. And so I found that I have to sometimes say, "Let's take a break. sometimes say, "Let's take a break. sometimes say, "Let's take a break. >> Slow down. >> Slow down. >> Slow down. >> Slow down. Let's chill. Let's reset. >> Slow down. Let's chill. Let's reset. >> Slow down. Let's chill. Let's reset. Let's make sure I get around my family Let's make sure I get around my family Let's make sure I get around my family >> because trying to be everything for >> because trying to be everything for >> because trying to be everything for everybody. everybody. everybody. It'll It'll It'll >> it'll it'll run you ragged." And what >> it'll it'll run you ragged." And what >> it'll it'll run you ragged." And what you learn too is um everyone thinks that you learn too is um everyone thinks that you learn too is um everyone thinks that money is everything. money is everything. money is everything. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Right. And you and there's a lot of >> Right. And you and there's a lot of >> Right. And you and there's a lot of things that can come with it, but it things that can come with it, but it things that can come with it, but it can't buy you happiness. It can't buy can't buy you happiness. It can't buy can't buy you happiness. It can't buy you peace. It can give you convenience you peace. It can give you convenience you peace. It can give you convenience and all these different things. But the and all these different things. But the and all these different things. But the thing that money can't buy you is thing that money can't buy you is thing that money can't buy you is health. health. health. >> Health. That's right. >> Health. That's right. >> Health. That's right. >> And when you see that, when you see this >> And when you see that, when you see this >> And when you see that, when you see this person that has all this wealth, you person that has all this wealth, you person that has all this wealth, you know, get sick or whatnot, there's know, get sick or whatnot, there's know, get sick or whatnot, there's there's nothing you can pay a doctor or there's nothing you can pay a doctor or there's nothing you can pay a doctor or something like that. There's no uh pill something like that. There's no uh pill something like that. There's no uh pill or anything like that yet that you can or anything like that yet that you can or anything like that yet that you can buy and it says, "Give me a clean bill buy and it says, "Give me a clean bill buy and it says, "Give me a clean bill of health." of health." of health." >> Well, it's mostly what we do to >> Well, it's mostly what we do to >> Well, it's mostly what we do to ourselves. I mean, that's that's what ourselves. I mean, that's that's what ourselves. I mean, that's that's what you've learned for yourself is if you you've learned for yourself is if you you've learned for yourself is if you want to have a long career in want to have a long career in want to have a long career in basketball, you've got to take care of basketball, you've got to take care of basketball, you've got to take care of your health. And it's not just your health. And it's not just your health. And it's not just exercising, it's what you're eating, exercising, it's what you're eating, exercising, it's what you're eating, it's what you're putting in your body, it's what you're putting in your body, it's what you're putting in your body, it's the supplements you're taking. And it's the supplements you're taking. And it's the supplements you're taking. And you you only can know what to do if you you you only can know what to do if you you you only can know what to do if you actually get the data, right? actually get the data, right? actually get the data, right? >> Yeah. And I just thought about something >> Yeah. And I just thought about something >> Yeah. And I just thought about something when you said that too, which what you when you said that too, which what you when you said that too, which what you also realize um is that it's really an also realize um is that it's really an also realize um is that it's really an individual journey, individual journey, individual journey, >> right? as much as like I love being on a >> right? as much as like I love being on a >> right? as much as like I love being on a team and being together, it's it's an team and being together, it's it's an team and being together, it's it's an individual journey because no matter if individual journey because no matter if individual journey because no matter if it's your your spouse, your partner, it's your your spouse, your partner, it's your your spouse, your partner, whatever it is, you can't make that whatever it is, you can't make that whatever it is, you can't make that person get up and exercise, right? You person get up and exercise, right? You person get up and exercise, right? You can't pass like can't pass like can't pass like >> like some of your heart to that person. >> like some of your heart to that person. >> like some of your heart to that person. >> Right? So, >> Right? So, >> Right? So, >> I did lock my mother in my house once >> I did lock my mother in my house once >> I did lock my mother in my house once and for three months and I made her eat and for three months and I made her eat and for three months and I made her eat everything I gave her. She lost like 30 everything I gave her. She lost like 30 everything I gave her. She lost like 30 pounds. She reversed her heart failure. pounds. She reversed her heart failure. pounds. She reversed her heart failure. Her lungs got better. able to get off Her lungs got better. able to get off Her lungs got better. able to get off her oxygen. It was pretty amazing. But her oxygen. It was pretty amazing. But her oxygen. It was pretty amazing. But she I made her go on an exercise bike she I made her go on an exercise bike she I made her go on an exercise bike cuz she never like to exercise. cuz she never like to exercise. cuz she never like to exercise. >> Well, she she couldn't drive. She was >> Well, she she couldn't drive. She was >> Well, she she couldn't drive. She was really sick and she couldn't go really sick and she couldn't go really sick and she couldn't go anywhere. So, she just had to eat what I anywhere. So, she just had to eat what I anywhere. So, she just had to eat what I gave her. gave her. gave her. >> And And how was she like afterwards? Not >> And And how was she like afterwards? Not >> And And how was she like afterwards? Not health, but health, but health, but >> emotionally she was so much happier. She >> emotionally she was so much happier. She >> emotionally she was so much happier. She could live on her own again. She was could live on her own again. She was could live on her own again. She was functioning. Of course, then when she functioning. Of course, then when she functioning. Of course, then when she went to back live on her own, she went to back live on her own, she went to back live on her own, she started bad habits again. She was started bad habits again. She was started bad habits again. She was listening, listening, listening, >> right? But at least that was something >> right? But at least that was something >> right? But at least that was something she got a chance to see. she got a chance to see. she got a chance to see. >> Yeah. I mean, but you know, it's it's >> Yeah. I mean, but you know, it's it's >> Yeah. I mean, but you know, it's it's the thing is you you know, when people the thing is you you know, when people the thing is you you know, when people know the data and information, there's know the data and information, there's know the data and information, there's things that they can do. And so, whether things that they can do. And so, whether things that they can do. And so, whether it's your dad making those changes after it's your dad making those changes after it's your dad making those changes after learning his lab data and getting learning his lab data and getting learning his lab data and getting insights about his health that he insights about his health that he insights about his health that he wouldn't have known or you're making wouldn't have known or you're making wouldn't have known or you're making changes that improve your performance changes that improve your performance changes that improve your performance and health and wellbeing or, you know, and health and wellbeing or, you know, and health and wellbeing or, you know, giving this gift is a is a powerful giving this gift is a is a powerful giving this gift is a is a powerful gift. gift. gift. >> Information is king. >> Information is king. >> Information is king. >> And and you're you're doing this for the >> And and you're you're doing this for the >> And and you're you're doing this for the NBA players, too. So, what how do you NBA players, too. So, what how do you NBA players, too. So, what how do you imagine them using this? And and because imagine them using this? And and because imagine them using this? And and because you mentioned a lot of, you know, guys you mentioned a lot of, you know, guys you mentioned a lot of, you know, guys just don't pay attention to their just don't pay attention to their just don't pay attention to their health, and it's true. health, and it's true. health, and it's true. >> Yeah. So, um, I tell you, um, one of the >> Yeah. So, um, I tell you, um, one of the >> Yeah. So, um, I tell you, um, one of the things that I'm probably most proud of things that I'm probably most proud of things that I'm probably most proud of as president of the union, uh, the time as president of the union, uh, the time as president of the union, uh, the time that I was there was that we're the only that I was there was that we're the only that I was there was that we're the only sports league that has, uh, health sports league that has, uh, health sports league that has, uh, health insurance for retired players. insurance for retired players. insurance for retired players. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Right. Only only sports league that have >> Right. Only only sports league that have >> Right. Only only sports league that have that. And so, retired players, uh, every that. And so, retired players, uh, every that. And so, retired players, uh, every so often in different regions, we have so often in different regions, we have so often in different regions, we have like clinics that, uh, players can show like clinics that, uh, players can show like clinics that, uh, players can show up and go to. And there have been a up and go to. And there have been a up and go to. And there have been a number of players who have been to these number of players who have been to these number of players who have been to these clinics and they found out different clinics and they found out different clinics and they found out different things. Um the legend Tiny Archer Ball things. Um the legend Tiny Archer Ball things. Um the legend Tiny Archer Ball uh I never forget when he went he found uh I never forget when he went he found uh I never forget when he went he found out that he had a heart condition. out that he had a heart condition. out that he had a heart condition. >> Right. And because of that they were >> Right. And because of that they were >> Right. And because of that they were able to save him. able to save him. able to save him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And so for all the different >> Right. And so for all the different >> Right. And so for all the different players in the league to be able to to players in the league to be able to to players in the league to be able to to use function, it is a use function, it is a use function, it is a >> it's a tool, >> it's a tool, >> it's a tool, >> right? It's a it's a >> right? It's a it's a >> right? It's a it's a >> Are you hearing stories from them? >> Are you hearing stories from them? >> Are you hearing stories from them? >> Not yet. A lot of guys are kind of >> Not yet. A lot of guys are kind of >> Not yet. A lot of guys are kind of private with their things, but you you private with their things, but you you private with their things, but you you will you will at some point because will you will at some point because will you will at some point because >> you know the average career for NBA >> you know the average career for NBA >> you know the average career for NBA player player player >> 10 years. >> 10 years. >> 10 years. >> No, not even close. It's like three and >> No, not even close. It's like three and >> No, not even close. It's like three and a half. a half. a half. >> Really? >> Really? >> Really? >> Yeah. Because a lot of times people see >> Yeah. Because a lot of times people see >> Yeah. Because a lot of times people see the stories of you know myself, Kyle the stories of you know myself, Kyle the stories of you know myself, Kyle Lowry, LeBron, all that stuff. Yeah. Lowry, LeBron, all that stuff. Yeah. Lowry, LeBron, all that stuff. Yeah. that you don't see the guys who come in that you don't see the guys who come in that you don't see the guys who come in for a year and then they go overseas for for a year and then they go overseas for for a year and then they go overseas for the time period that guys are in the the time period that guys are in the the time period that guys are in the league. The fact that you get a chance league. The fact that you get a chance league. The fact that you get a chance to get exposed to function health, to get exposed to function health, to get exposed to function health, right? If your career is on the shorter right? If your career is on the shorter right? If your career is on the shorter side, at least you've been exposed to side, at least you've been exposed to side, at least you've been exposed to this, this, this, >> right? Talking about like how I was >> right? Talking about like how I was >> right? Talking about like how I was exposed to um the food sensitivity test. exposed to um the food sensitivity test. exposed to um the food sensitivity test. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Right. Once guys get exposed to it, >> Right. Once guys get exposed to it, >> Right. Once guys get exposed to it, right? And it's something that guys can right? And it's something that guys can right? And it's something that guys can do cuz there's a lot of things that when do cuz there's a lot of things that when do cuz there's a lot of things that when you're in the NBA, you be like, "Oh you're in the NBA, you be like, "Oh you're in the NBA, you be like, "Oh yeah, we just get this cuz we in the yeah, we just get this cuz we in the yeah, we just get this cuz we in the NBA, NBA, NBA, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> You want to find those different things >> You want to find those different things >> You want to find those different things that more of the masses can lean into." that more of the masses can lean into." that more of the masses can lean into." >> Yeah. Yeah. It's only a dollar a day. So >> Yeah. Yeah. It's only a dollar a day. So >> Yeah. Yeah. It's only a dollar a day. So most people, not everybody, most people most people, not everybody, most people most people, not everybody, most people can afford a dollar a day for their can afford a dollar a day for their can afford a dollar a day for their health. health. health. >> And that's what I'm saying. So that's >> And that's what I'm saying. So that's >> And that's what I'm saying. So that's why this is such a game changer because why this is such a game changer because why this is such a game changer because it is for more people. it is for more people. it is for more people. >> Yeah. And it gives you know as we're as >> Yeah. And it gives you know as we're as >> Yeah. And it gives you know as we're as we're function is becoming um you know a we're function is becoming um you know a we're function is becoming um you know a more mature company we're actually more mature company we're actually more mature company we're actually building more intelligence into the building more intelligence into the building more intelligence into the product and so it gets smarter and product and so it gets smarter and product and so it gets smarter and smarter and smarter and we're able to smarter and smarter and we're able to smarter and smarter and we're able to guide people on actually what to do. So guide people on actually what to do. So guide people on actually what to do. So it sort of like you know supports them it sort of like you know supports them it sort of like you know supports them in decision-m about their own healths in decision-m about their own healths in decision-m about their own healths work with their doctor better. It really work with their doctor better. It really work with their doctor better. It really creates an ecosystem where they can creates an ecosystem where they can creates an ecosystem where they can actually change their their health and actually change their their health and actually change their their health and see the changes over time. And I think see the changes over time. And I think see the changes over time. And I think we never had that before. You had to go we never had that before. You had to go we never had that before. You had to go to the doctor you had to get insurance. to the doctor you had to get insurance. to the doctor you had to get insurance. Most people wouldn't go. And it's it's Most people wouldn't go. And it's it's Most people wouldn't go. And it's it's it's empowering people in a way that we it's empowering people in a way that we it's empowering people in a way that we never had before. And you know, like you never had before. And you know, like you never had before. And you know, like you can see this with your own family. Like can see this with your own family. Like can see this with your own family. Like they're probably finding out all kinds they're probably finding out all kinds they're probably finding out all kinds of stuff they didn't know about of stuff they didn't know about of stuff they didn't know about themselves and they're able to say, "Oh, themselves and they're able to say, "Oh, themselves and they're able to say, "Oh, wait a minute. I can do something about wait a minute. I can do something about wait a minute. I can do something about it." it." it." >> And the fact that you get to go to your >> And the fact that you get to go to your >> And the fact that you get to go to your phone and you can look at it and you can phone and you can look at it and you can phone and you can look at it and you can see it and you can check what's going on see it and you can check what's going on see it and you can check what's going on and you don't have to wait a week or two and you don't have to wait a week or two and you don't have to wait a week or two weeks for the doctor to tell you, you weeks for the doctor to tell you, you weeks for the doctor to tell you, you know, this is what's going on with you, know, this is what's going on with you, know, this is what's going on with you, right? And the fact that you can right? And the fact that you can right? And the fact that you can communicate and talk with somebody to communicate and talk with somebody to communicate and talk with somebody to tell you how to get better at it because tell you how to get better at it because tell you how to get better at it because there's a lot of things that the things there's a lot of things that the things there's a lot of things that the things that I learned about food, right, when I that I learned about food, right, when I that I learned about food, right, when I said I went plant-based. Yeah. Right. I said I went plant-based. Yeah. Right. I said I went plant-based. Yeah. Right. I started learning about all types of started learning about all types of started learning about all types of stuff that I had no clue about, right? stuff that I had no clue about, right? stuff that I had no clue about, right? Like I I grew up in North Carolina. Like Like I I grew up in North Carolina. Like Like I I grew up in North Carolina. Like >> my snacks was >> my snacks was >> my snacks was >> Little Debbiey's oatmeal cream pies, >> Little Debbiey's oatmeal cream pies, >> Little Debbiey's oatmeal cream pies, right? And then being out here in right? And then being out here in right? And then being out here in California. California. California. >> Little Debbie. Yep. >> Little Debbie. Yep. >> Little Debbie. Yep. >> Yeah. And then being out here in >> Yeah. And then being out here in >> Yeah. And then being out here in California and my kids growing up asking California and my kids growing up asking California and my kids growing up asking for uh seaweed, for uh seaweed, for uh seaweed, >> asking for seaweed and they coming up to >> asking for seaweed and they coming up to >> asking for seaweed and they coming up to me, me, me, >> they breath smell like the ocean. >> they breath smell like the ocean. >> they breath smell like the ocean. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> It's just it's it's different, but you >> It's just it's it's different, but you >> It's just it's it's different, but you don't know what you don't know. And so, don't know what you don't know. And so, don't know what you don't know. And so, like you said, the information that like you said, the information that like you said, the information that Function is able to give you is amazing. Function is able to give you is amazing. Function is able to give you is amazing. >> Yeah. 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Um was there anything in your results that was there anything in your results that was there anything in your results that were surprised you that you were like, were surprised you that you were like, were surprised you that you were like, "Hey, I didn't know this and I would "Hey, I didn't know this and I would "Hey, I didn't know this and I would never have found this out." I I'll be never have found this out." I I'll be never have found this out." I I'll be very honest with you. When you first get very honest with you. When you first get very honest with you. When you first get your results back, it's it's a lot. your results back, it's it's a lot. your results back, it's it's a lot. >> A lot. >> A lot. >> A lot. >> It's a lot. It's kind of scary, right? >> It's a lot. It's kind of scary, right? >> It's a lot. It's kind of scary, right? Because I'm a self-dagnosed Because I'm a self-dagnosed Because I'm a self-dagnosed hypochondriac, right? So, when I see the hypochondriac, right? So, when I see the hypochondriac, right? So, when I see the different levels or whatnot and they say different levels or whatnot and they say different levels or whatnot and they say this marker right here should be here, I this marker right here should be here, I this marker right here should be here, I be like, "I'm dying." be like, "I'm dying." be like, "I'm dying." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm dying. I'm dying. I already know. >> I'm dying. I'm dying. I already know. >> I'm dying. I'm dying. I already know. I'm dying. You know, but I'm dying. You know, but I'm dying. You know, but >> I just scored 42 points, but I'm dying. >> I just scored 42 points, but I'm dying. >> I just scored 42 points, but I'm dying. >> Right. Right. Right. But to not just get >> Right. Right. Right. But to not just get >> Right. Right. Right. But to not just get the results, right? Because there's the results, right? Because there's the results, right? Because there's sometimes like people will give you sometimes like people will give you sometimes like people will give you results and be like here I go. All results and be like here I go. All results and be like here I go. All right. And then you like what do I do right. And then you like what do I do right. And then you like what do I do with this? What what am I supposed to with this? What what am I supposed to with this? What what am I supposed to do? do? do? >> And so to have someone that can coach >> And so to have someone that can coach >> And so to have someone that can coach you more supportive. Yeah. you more supportive. Yeah. you more supportive. Yeah. >> Yes. The support the support is >> Yes. The support the support is >> Yes. The support the support is necessary to be like this is probably necessary to be like this is probably necessary to be like this is probably just like this because you were doing just like this because you were doing just like this because you were doing this right or have you eaten a lot of this right or have you eaten a lot of this right or have you eaten a lot of this? Yeah. Or have you this? Yeah. Or have you this? Yeah. Or have you >> have too much tuna fish and didn't know >> have too much tuna fish and didn't know >> have too much tuna fish and didn't know sushi or mercury's really high. sushi or mercury's really high. sushi or mercury's really high. >> Mercury really high. You know, I think >> Mercury really high. You know, I think >> Mercury really high. You know, I think you you mentioned people don't have a you you mentioned people don't have a you you mentioned people don't have a dashboard for their health. Like they dashboard for their health. Like they dashboard for their health. Like they they can go on their phone and they can they can go on their phone and they can they can go on their phone and they can look at their bank account. look at their bank account. look at their bank account. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> They can check their stocks or whatever, >> They can check their stocks or whatever, >> They can check their stocks or whatever, but they can't have a dashboard for but they can't have a dashboard for but they can't have a dashboard for their health. But now now people can. their health. But now now people can. their health. But now now people can. And that that's the beauty of this. And And that that's the beauty of this. And And that that's the beauty of this. And it's it's continuous over time. It's it's it's continuous over time. It's it's it's continuous over time. It's just like you don't check your bank just like you don't check your bank just like you don't check your bank account once, I'm good. I don't check it account once, I'm good. I don't check it account once, I'm good. I don't check it the rest of my life. You keep checking the rest of my life. You keep checking the rest of my life. You keep checking make sure you're okay. And it's the same make sure you're okay. And it's the same make sure you're okay. And it's the same thing with your health. You got to keep thing with your health. You got to keep thing with your health. You got to keep keep after it keep after it keep after it >> and to get the information. And even me >> and to get the information. And even me >> and to get the information. And even me being a professional athlete, feeling being a professional athlete, feeling being a professional athlete, feeling like I know so many different things. I like I know so many different things. I like I know so many different things. I have a a nutritionist, her name is Mary, have a a nutritionist, her name is Mary, have a a nutritionist, her name is Mary, who works with me, right, who coaches me who works with me, right, who coaches me who works with me, right, who coaches me on on on >> my results and all these different >> my results and all these different >> my results and all these different things and try to figure out how I can things and try to figure out how I can things and try to figure out how I can make it more performance-based and all make it more performance-based and all make it more performance-based and all this stuff. And it's it's been amazing this stuff. And it's it's been amazing this stuff. And it's it's been amazing for me because, right, like saying I'm for me because, right, like saying I'm for me because, right, like saying I'm 40, at my age at 40, 40, at my age at 40, 40, at my age at 40, >> um, >> um, >> um, >> day over 35. Listen, I need I need every >> day over 35. Listen, I need I need every >> day over 35. Listen, I need I need every every little advantage that I can get, every little advantage that I can get, every little advantage that I can get, every little edge that I can get. And so every little edge that I can get. And so every little edge that I can get. And so >> you're playing against guys 15 years >> you're playing against guys 15 years >> you're playing against guys 15 years younger than you. younger than you. younger than you. >> Exactly. Exactly. I mean, >> Exactly. Exactly. I mean, >> Exactly. Exactly. I mean, >> I'm I'm paying attention to what I eat. >> I'm I'm paying attention to what I eat. >> I'm I'm paying attention to what I eat. So, if game is at 7:00, I know my So, if game is at 7:00, I know my So, if game is at 7:00, I know my pregame is usually 3 hours before, pregame is usually 3 hours before, pregame is usually 3 hours before, >> right? 4:00, I usually eat my pregame >> right? 4:00, I usually eat my pregame >> right? 4:00, I usually eat my pregame meal. Um, then an hour before the game, meal. Um, then an hour before the game, meal. Um, then an hour before the game, I have a snack, right? And so, uh, game I have a snack, right? And so, uh, game I have a snack, right? And so, uh, game will start halftime. I have another will start halftime. I have another will start halftime. I have another snack because people don't realize the snack because people don't realize the snack because people don't realize the game is three hours long. Right. So, one game is three hours long. Right. So, one game is three hours long. Right. So, one of the things that I didn't like to do of the things that I didn't like to do of the things that I didn't like to do early in my career is, and I'm sure early in my career is, and I'm sure early in my career is, and I'm sure there are plenty of people like this in there are plenty of people like this in there are plenty of people like this in the world, like when you're exercising, the world, like when you're exercising, the world, like when you're exercising, you don't like to drink. you don't like to drink. you don't like to drink. >> No. Right. >> No. Right. >> No. Right. >> Right. You don't like to drink. But, uh, >> Right. You don't like to drink. But, uh, >> Right. You don't like to drink. But, uh, I actually in my brain, I've I've blamed I actually in my brain, I've I've blamed I actually in my brain, I've I've blamed a few of my injuries on hydration. a few of my injuries on hydration. a few of my injuries on hydration. Dehydrated. Yeah. Dehydrated. Yeah. Dehydrated. Yeah. >> Yep. On being hydrated. >> Yep. On being hydrated. >> Yep. On being hydrated. >> Dehydrated. >> Dehydrated. >> Dehydrated. had one of my trainers um you know in had one of my trainers um you know in had one of my trainers um you know in the past few years or whatn not whenever the past few years or whatn not whenever the past few years or whatn not whenever I come out the game I'll be like give me I come out the game I'll be like give me I come out the game I'll be like give me my drink even if I don't even ask for my drink even if I don't even ask for my drink even if I don't even ask for it. it. it. >> Yeah >> Yeah >> Yeah >> right because you have to for that >> right because you have to for that >> right because you have to for that amount of time that you're playing and amount of time that you're playing and amount of time that you're playing and all you're all you're all you're >> having electrolytes too. >> having electrolytes too. >> having electrolytes too. >> Exactly. That's the other thing too. I >> Exactly. That's the other thing too. I >> Exactly. That's the other thing too. I think a lot of times people think you're think a lot of times people think you're think a lot of times people think you're just drinking water. No, you need just drinking water. No, you need just drinking water. No, you need electrolytes because you have to electrolytes because you have to electrolytes because you have to >> replenish, right? And so all of that >> replenish, right? And so all of that >> replenish, right? And so all of that stuff when I became a lot more stuff when I became a lot more stuff when I became a lot more intentional and dialed in with that intentional and dialed in with that intentional and dialed in with that changed everything. changed everything. changed everything. >> And you said you noticed when you >> And you said you noticed when you >> And you said you noticed when you mentioned earlier we were chatting you mentioned earlier we were chatting you mentioned earlier we were chatting you said when you change your diet like your said when you change your diet like your said when you change your diet like your face looks different swollen or puffy face looks different swollen or puffy face looks different swollen or puffy and less inflammation your body better and less inflammation your body better and less inflammation your body better recovery less injuries. recovery less injuries. recovery less injuries. >> I'll tell you this talking basketball I >> I'll tell you this talking basketball I >> I'll tell you this talking basketball I was a real live killer when I played in was a real live killer when I played in was a real live killer when I played in New Orleans right like I New Orleans right like I New Orleans right like I downhill. That was before I had knee downhill. That was before I had knee downhill. That was before I had knee surgery and all that stuff. But it's so surgery and all that stuff. But it's so surgery and all that stuff. But it's so funny for me to look at pictures of me funny for me to look at pictures of me funny for me to look at pictures of me back then, right? And in weight, I may back then, right? And in weight, I may back then, right? And in weight, I may have been uh lighter. I think I was, but have been uh lighter. I think I was, but have been uh lighter. I think I was, but I look so much heavier because my face I look so much heavier because my face I look so much heavier because my face is so much fuller. And like you said, is so much fuller. And like you said, is so much fuller. And like you said, like I know now that that's like I know now that that's like I know now that that's inflammation. inflammation. inflammation. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's inflammation. And so >> that's inflammation. And so >> that's inflammation. And so >> that's something you can pick up on the >> that's something you can pick up on the >> that's something you can pick up on the blood test, too. blood test, too. blood test, too. >> You pick that up on the blood test. But >> You pick that up on the blood test. But >> You pick that up on the blood test. But I think what happens and why like I'm I think what happens and why like I'm I think what happens and why like I'm not a hoarder of information. If I learn not a hoarder of information. If I learn not a hoarder of information. If I learn something, I want nothing more than to something, I want nothing more than to something, I want nothing more than to pass it to the next person. But people pass it to the next person. But people pass it to the next person. But people be like, "Yo, man, you don't hurt. You be like, "Yo, man, you don't hurt. You be like, "Yo, man, you don't hurt. You don't ache." Right? Like how how are you don't ache." Right? Like how how are you don't ache." Right? Like how how are you still playing? They'd be like, "Man, if still playing? They'd be like, "Man, if still playing? They'd be like, "Man, if I go out and play right now, I I hurt so I go out and play right now, I I hurt so I go out and play right now, I I hurt so bad." But it's because I found the bad." But it's because I found the bad." But it's because I found the different things for me that different things for me that different things for me that >> recovery. >> recovery. >> recovery. >> Yeah. Recovery. And I eliminated uh as >> Yeah. Recovery. And I eliminated uh as >> Yeah. Recovery. And I eliminated uh as much inflammation as possible. And then much inflammation as possible. And then much inflammation as possible. And then when I make choices, right, that I know when I make choices, right, that I know when I make choices, right, that I know could possibly cause some inflammation, could possibly cause some inflammation, could possibly cause some inflammation, then I try to take the proper steps or then I try to take the proper steps or then I try to take the proper steps or whatnot to address it. whatnot to address it. whatnot to address it. >> Yeah. You know, to adjust it. >> Yeah. You know, to adjust it. >> Yeah. You know, to adjust it. >> So, what's like an average day for you >> So, what's like an average day for you >> So, what's like an average day for you look like when you're playing in terms look like when you're playing in terms look like when you're playing in terms of how you take care of your body, what of how you take care of your body, what of how you take care of your body, what you eat, and how you rest, how you you eat, and how you rest, how you you eat, and how you rest, how you recover from games. I walk walk us recover from games. I walk walk us recover from games. I walk walk us through it cuz, you know, it's unusual. through it cuz, you know, it's unusual. through it cuz, you know, it's unusual. I mean, you know, Tom Brady played, but I mean, you know, Tom Brady played, but I mean, you know, Tom Brady played, but you know, he's quarterback and he's just you know, he's quarterback and he's just you know, he's quarterback and he's just he's he's he does a few seconds of he's he's he does a few seconds of he's he's he does a few seconds of intense. intense. intense. >> Exactly. I'm running up down the floor. >> Exactly. I'm running up down the floor. >> Exactly. I'm running up down the floor. >> You're like going going, right? And I >> You're like going going, right? And I >> You're like going going, right? And I love Tommy. He's a friend, but like love Tommy. He's a friend, but like love Tommy. He's a friend, but like >> and I'm having to guard these point >> and I'm having to guard these point >> and I'm having to guard these point guards, right, who 19, 20 years old and guards, right, who 19, 20 years old and guards, right, who 19, 20 years old and all that stuff like that. That's real all that stuff like that. That's real all that stuff like that. That's real shifty and all this stuff. But um shifty and all this stuff. But um shifty and all this stuff. But um >> real shifty >> real shifty >> real shifty >> and it's that's the competitiveness that >> and it's that's the competitiveness that >> and it's that's the competitiveness that comes in and that's what makes me um comes in and that's what makes me um comes in and that's what makes me um >> so on given days, I mean at one point I >> so on given days, I mean at one point I >> so on given days, I mean at one point I felt like I was having digestion issues. felt like I was having digestion issues. felt like I was having digestion issues. So I wake up in the morning, I have So I wake up in the morning, I have So I wake up in the morning, I have celery juice, right? Like I do that. celery juice, right? Like I do that. celery juice, right? Like I do that. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> And then um you know when I was with the >> And then um you know when I was with the >> And then um you know when I was with the Clippers, what I would do is I would Clippers, what I would do is I would Clippers, what I would do is I would leave. We practiced uh I think at like leave. We practiced uh I think at like leave. We practiced uh I think at like 11:00. So say practice is at 11:00. I 11:00. So say practice is at 11:00. I 11:00. So say practice is at 11:00. I mean I'm out of my house cuz it would mean I'm out of my house cuz it would mean I'm out of my house cuz it would take me 40 minutes to get to the take me 40 minutes to get to the take me 40 minutes to get to the practice facility. I would leave my practice facility. I would leave my practice facility. I would leave my house around 6 6:30. Yeah. I'm I'm up house around 6 6:30. Yeah. I'm I'm up house around 6 6:30. Yeah. I'm I'm up early. I'm up early and I'm I'm I'm early. I'm up early and I'm I'm I'm early. I'm up early and I'm I'm I'm gone. when I get to the uh arena and my gone. when I get to the uh arena and my gone. when I get to the uh arena and my trainer Donnie, we would be in the gym trainer Donnie, we would be in the gym trainer Donnie, we would be in the gym uh and we would lift. Like that's the uh and we would lift. Like that's the uh and we would lift. Like that's the other thing that I other thing that I other thing that I the older I got, the more I lifted. the older I got, the more I lifted. the older I got, the more I lifted. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. Like that's the thing that I'm >> Right. Like that's the thing that I'm >> Right. Like that's the thing that I'm sure you know as far as like muscle mass sure you know as far as like muscle mass sure you know as far as like muscle mass and all that stuff, the older you get, and all that stuff, the older you get, and all that stuff, the older you get, the more days like the days you take off the more days like the days you take off the more days like the days you take off >> the body, you know, you don't use it, >> the body, you know, you don't use it, >> the body, you know, you don't use it, you lose it. you lose it. you lose it. >> Yeah. And when you're younger, you kind >> Yeah. And when you're younger, you kind >> Yeah. And when you're younger, you kind of got a lot of hormones going on. And of got a lot of hormones going on. And of got a lot of hormones going on. And then when you're older, you got to I then when you're older, you got to I then when you're older, you got to I know I'm 66. I get it. know I'm 66. I get it. know I'm 66. I get it. >> Yeah. You got to you got to keep >> Yeah. You got to you got to keep >> Yeah. You got to you got to keep >> I got to get after it every day. >> I got to get after it every day. >> I got to get after it every day. >> Yeah. Exactly. So, I'm at the gym. Uh >> Yeah. Exactly. So, I'm at the gym. Uh >> Yeah. Exactly. So, I'm at the gym. Uh Donnie, me and my trainer, we lifting Donnie, me and my trainer, we lifting Donnie, me and my trainer, we lifting probably like probably like probably like 7:30 to 8:45 or so. And then I would go 7:30 to 8:45 or so. And then I would go 7:30 to 8:45 or so. And then I would go uh eat. I would go make sure I get uh my uh eat. I would go make sure I get uh my uh eat. I would go make sure I get uh my protein and all that stuff in before protein and all that stuff in before protein and all that stuff in before practice cuz practice is at 11:00. And practice cuz practice is at 11:00. And practice cuz practice is at 11:00. And then I would uh I would usually be on then I would uh I would usually be on then I would uh I would usually be on the court maybe like around 9:30. the court maybe like around 9:30. the court maybe like around 9:30. >> So what would be your breakfast like >> So what would be your breakfast like >> So what would be your breakfast like with a protein? Because being vegan, with a protein? Because being vegan, with a protein? Because being vegan, it's a little more challenging to get it's a little more challenging to get it's a little more challenging to get proteins that actually build muscle. You proteins that actually build muscle. You proteins that actually build muscle. You need to come different combinations of need to come different combinations of need to come different combinations of amino acids and things. So how do you amino acids and things. So how do you amino acids and things. So how do you work around that? work around that? work around that? >> I mean when I was fully plant-based, I >> I mean when I was fully plant-based, I >> I mean when I was fully plant-based, I would do that. But because I've started would do that. But because I've started would do that. But because I've started to incorporate like fish and all these to incorporate like fish and all these to incorporate like fish and all these different things, it would vary, you different things, it would vary, you different things, it would vary, you know what I mean, on a given day, like know what I mean, on a given day, like know what I mean, on a given day, like maybe smoked salmon and things like maybe smoked salmon and things like maybe smoked salmon and things like that. So do that in the morning. M that. So do that in the morning. M that. So do that in the morning. M >> um and then after pra well practice >> um and then after pra well practice >> um and then after pra well practice after practice is over uh after practice is over uh after practice is over uh I'm I'm laughing because I've had so I'm I'm laughing because I've had so I'm I'm laughing because I've had so many different stages of my career, many different stages of my career, many different stages of my career, >> right? It was it was when me and my >> right? It was it was when me and my >> right? It was it was when me and my brother just lived together. brother just lived together. brother just lived together. >> Yeah. Eating pizza. >> Yeah. Eating pizza. >> Yeah. Eating pizza. >> It was me and my girlfriend, right? >> It was me and my girlfriend, right? >> It was me and my girlfriend, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Then she became my wife, then we had one >> Then she became my wife, then we had one >> Then she became my wife, then we had one kid, then we had two kids. So now like kid, then we had two kids. So now like kid, then we had two kids. So now like when practice get over, when practice get over, when practice get over, >> dad starts, >> dad starts, >> dad starts, >> right? dad starts. So now it's go home, >> right? dad starts. So now it's go home, >> right? dad starts. So now it's go home, uh, eat lunch. Um, well, after practice, uh, eat lunch. Um, well, after practice, uh, eat lunch. Um, well, after practice, depending on what I have on my schedule depending on what I have on my schedule depending on what I have on my schedule that day. Um, do you like the red light that day. Um, do you like the red light that day. Um, do you like the red light beds, the trifecta beds or whatnot? beds, the trifecta beds or whatnot? beds, the trifecta beds or whatnot? >> Red light beds. Yeah. >> Red light beds. Yeah. >> Red light beds. Yeah. >> Yep. So >> Yep. So >> Yep. So >> I would do that before or after >> I would do that before or after >> I would do that before or after practice. And I usually try to do a practice. And I usually try to do a practice. And I usually try to do a sauna. sauna. sauna. >> Sauna like 20 minutes. Yep. And cold >> Sauna like 20 minutes. Yep. And cold >> Sauna like 20 minutes. Yep. And cold plunge. plunge. plunge. >> You use like hyperbarics, too. >> You use like hyperbarics, too. >> You use like hyperbarics, too. >> Yeah, I've done I've done hyperaric. >> Yeah, I've done I've done hyperaric. >> Yeah, I've done I've done hyperaric. That's crazy. I need to go back. I ain't That's crazy. I need to go back. I ain't That's crazy. I need to go back. I ain't did that probably in the last helps did that probably in the last helps did that probably in the last helps recovery, too. recovery, too. recovery, too. >> Absolutely. I used to have one. I have >> Absolutely. I used to have one. I have >> Absolutely. I used to have one. I have one in my house. Like the one where you one in my house. Like the one where you one in my house. Like the one where you zip up. Yep. The blow up one. They zip up. Yep. The blow up one. They zip up. Yep. The blow up one. They actually got the ones here in Beverly actually got the ones here in Beverly actually got the ones here in Beverly Hills where like two people, three Hills where like two people, three Hills where like two people, three people can go in. people can go in. people can go in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Big hard ones. Yeah. >> Big hard ones. Yeah. >> Big hard ones. Yeah. >> Yeah. You can actually like watch TV in >> Yeah. You can actually like watch TV in >> Yeah. You can actually like watch TV in them and stuff. That's right. them and stuff. That's right. them and stuff. That's right. >> So I'm I'm open to all the different >> So I'm I'm open to all the different >> So I'm I'm open to all the different things, right? But what I what I try to things, right? But what I what I try to things, right? But what I what I try to do is do is do is >> um there's so much monotony in life, >> um there's so much monotony in life, >> um there's so much monotony in life, right? Like with drills and all this right? Like with drills and all this right? Like with drills and all this stuff. So with my recovery, I try to stuff. So with my recovery, I try to stuff. So with my recovery, I try to change things up, right? Like, so some change things up, right? Like, so some change things up, right? Like, so some days I'll do cold tub, some days I'll do days I'll do cold tub, some days I'll do days I'll do cold tub, some days I'll do uh cold tub, hot tub, contrast, right? uh cold tub, hot tub, contrast, right? uh cold tub, hot tub, contrast, right? So someday it'll be massage, right? So So someday it'll be massage, right? So So someday it'll be massage, right? So just depending on how I feel. just depending on how I feel. just depending on how I feel. >> Why why pick? Why don't you do them all >> Why why pick? Why don't you do them all >> Why why pick? Why don't you do them all the same day? the same day? the same day? >> No, that's a long day. >> No, that's a long day. >> No, that's a long day. >> I know >> I know >> I know >> that's a long day. But the the other >> that's a long day. But the the other >> that's a long day. But the the other thing that the days or whatnot, what's thing that the days or whatnot, what's thing that the days or whatnot, what's really nice about the the sauna or the really nice about the the sauna or the really nice about the the sauna or the red light bed, all these different red light bed, all these different red light bed, all these different things, is things, is things, is um um um the time without your phone. the time without your phone. the time without your phone. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Right. The time to connect, the time to >> Right. The time to connect, the time to >> Right. The time to connect, the time to just sort of just sort of just sort of >> be >> be >> be >> be and and daydream. I sort of talk >> be and and daydream. I sort of talk >> be and and daydream. I sort of talk about this all the time as far as like about this all the time as far as like about this all the time as far as like kids with phones or iPads is growing up kids with phones or iPads is growing up kids with phones or iPads is growing up when we were in the car with our parents when we were in the car with our parents when we were in the car with our parents and we would be riding in the back seat and we would be riding in the back seat and we would be riding in the back seat and our parents would be listening to and our parents would be listening to and our parents would be listening to whatever they wanted to listen to. Uh whatever they wanted to listen to. Uh whatever they wanted to listen to. Uh you would catch yourself just looking you would catch yourself just looking you would catch yourself just looking out the back window, right? And the out the back window, right? And the out the back window, right? And the trees just going by and then you just trees just going by and then you just trees just going by and then you just start daydreaming start daydreaming start daydreaming >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> about any and everything >> about any and everything >> about any and everything >> like a meditation almost. >> like a meditation almost. >> like a meditation almost. >> Exactly. And with the speed of life and >> Exactly. And with the speed of life and >> Exactly. And with the speed of life and everything going on in the world now everything going on in the world now everything going on in the world now where there's always a app, there's where there's always a app, there's where there's always a app, there's always a show, there's always something. always a show, there's always something. always a show, there's always something. There's very few time for us to be There's very few time for us to be There's very few time for us to be >> disconnect. Yeah. >> disconnect. Yeah. >> disconnect. Yeah. >> And so I find in those times it gives me >> And so I find in those times it gives me >> And so I find in those times it gives me an opportunity to an opportunity to an opportunity to >> Well, that's how you focus and be so >> Well, that's how you focus and be so >> Well, that's how you focus and be so focused as you are to, you know, succeed focused as you are to, you know, succeed focused as you are to, you know, succeed at something is you can't be on your at something is you can't be on your at something is you can't be on your phone all the time if you want to be an phone all the time if you want to be an phone all the time if you want to be an elite athlete, right? Or you want to be elite athlete, right? Or you want to be elite athlete, right? Or you want to be successful in anything in life. successful in anything in life. successful in anything in life. >> Yeah. Anything in life. But that's what >> Yeah. Anything in life. But that's what >> Yeah. Anything in life. But that's what um what basketball always has been and um what basketball always has been and um what basketball always has been and it's been a safe haven and just sort of it's been a safe haven and just sort of it's been a safe haven and just sort of a happy place. So when you can get out a happy place. So when you can get out a happy place. So when you can get out there on the court, there on the court, there on the court, >> uh a lot of guys probably don't even >> uh a lot of guys probably don't even >> uh a lot of guys probably don't even think about it. Yes. You love playing think about it. Yes. You love playing think about it. Yes. You love playing basketball, but what it is is you love basketball, but what it is is you love basketball, but what it is is you love being and not being on your phone and being and not being on your phone and being and not being on your phone and someone asking you for something or someone asking you for something or someone asking you for something or doing something like that. doing something like that. doing something like that. >> You don't even have your phone on the >> You don't even have your phone on the >> You don't even have your phone on the court. court. court. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> They probably lock it in the locker >> They probably lock it in the locker >> They probably lock it in the locker room, don't they? room, don't they? room, don't they? >> Oh, yeah. It's gone. It's gone. That's >> Oh, yeah. It's gone. It's gone. That's >> Oh, yeah. It's gone. It's gone. That's right. So Chris, I want to ask you also right. So Chris, I want to ask you also right. So Chris, I want to ask you also about sleep because you know you can about sleep because you know you can about sleep because you know you can work out, you can eat well, but you're work out, you can eat well, but you're work out, you can eat well, but you're on the road all the time, different on the road all the time, different on the road all the time, different cities, different time zones, playing at cities, different time zones, playing at cities, different time zones, playing at different times, different times, different times, >> and all the circadian rhythms get >> and all the circadian rhythms get >> and all the circadian rhythms get screwed up. How do you how do you handle screwed up. How do you how do you handle screwed up. How do you how do you handle taking care of your sleep? taking care of your sleep? taking care of your sleep? >> Man, sleep is is is everything. And I >> Man, sleep is is is everything. And I >> Man, sleep is is is everything. And I don't have my aura ring on now, which is don't have my aura ring on now, which is don't have my aura ring on now, which is crazy. But um I um I think about sleep. crazy. But um I um I think about sleep. crazy. But um I um I think about sleep. Um that's just as important as the diet Um that's just as important as the diet Um that's just as important as the diet and the food and everything. And what's and the food and everything. And what's and the food and everything. And what's interesting is that I'm I'm a napper, interesting is that I'm I'm a napper, interesting is that I'm I'm a napper, right? right? right? >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> I'm a napper. And let my family tell >> I'm a napper. And let my family tell >> I'm a napper. And let my family tell you, they probably say I'm narcoleptic, you, they probably say I'm narcoleptic, you, they probably say I'm narcoleptic, right? right? right? >> But but because of the days, right? The >> But but because of the days, right? The >> But but because of the days, right? The days the days are so long and I'm up so days the days are so long and I'm up so days the days are so long and I'm up so early. And early. And early. And >> you know, when you play in the NBA, >> you know, when you play in the NBA, >> you know, when you play in the NBA, you're on these planes and you get out you're on these planes and you get out you're on these planes and you get out of this high intense game and then you of this high intense game and then you of this high intense game and then you fly and land at 2 a.m., then you got fly and land at 2 a.m., then you got fly and land at 2 a.m., then you got practice at 10:00, right? So, um I don't practice at 10:00, right? So, um I don't practice at 10:00, right? So, um I don't get eight hours every night. get eight hours every night. get eight hours every night. >> No, but >> No, but >> No, but >> when I do get home or whatnot and I'm >> when I do get home or whatnot and I'm >> when I do get home or whatnot and I'm I'm sitting there, I will nap. I will I'm sitting there, I will nap. I will I'm sitting there, I will nap. I will fall asleep. I find time to do that fall asleep. I find time to do that fall asleep. I find time to do that because um because um because um >> napping is a very good power skill if >> napping is a very good power skill if >> napping is a very good power skill if you can do it. you can do it. you can do it. >> Yeah, I have to. Especially in season on >> Yeah, I have to. Especially in season on >> Yeah, I have to. Especially in season on a game day. On a game day, I allow a game day. On a game day, I allow a game day. On a game day, I allow myself two hours myself two hours myself two hours >> to nap. >> to nap. >> to nap. >> To nap. >> To nap. >> To nap. >> Amazing. >> Amazing. >> Amazing. >> To nap. Go into a room, phone go on, do >> To nap. Go into a room, phone go on, do >> To nap. Go into a room, phone go on, do not disturb. I want the lights dark, not disturb. I want the lights dark, not disturb. I want the lights dark, right? Like you constantly learning right? Like you constantly learning right? Like you constantly learning stuff. Uh stuff. Uh stuff. Uh >> little tricks. >> little tricks. >> little tricks. >> Yeah, little tricks. But even even my >> Yeah, little tricks. But even even my >> Yeah, little tricks. But even even my wife, right, because I played six years wife, right, because I played six years wife, right, because I played six years away. Like six years I lived away from away. Like six years I lived away from away. Like six years I lived away from my family. my family. my family. one year in Oklahoma City, three years one year in Oklahoma City, three years one year in Oklahoma City, three years in Phoenix, one year in in Phoenix, one year in in Phoenix, one year in Golden State, and then one year in San Golden State, and then one year in San Golden State, and then one year in San Antonio. Antonio. Antonio. >> Right. So my wife now she's like she >> Right. So my wife now she's like she >> Right. So my wife now she's like she would always sleep with the TV on, would always sleep with the TV on, would always sleep with the TV on, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But she would do that because she's home >> But she would do that because she's home >> But she would do that because she's home alone and she said she's hearing things, alone and she said she's hearing things, alone and she said she's hearing things, >> right? Like just the anxiety. Exactly. >> right? Like just the anxiety. Exactly. >> right? Like just the anxiety. Exactly. So she would sleep with the TV on. And So she would sleep with the TV on. And So she would sleep with the TV on. And since this season when I've been back since this season when I've been back since this season when I've been back home, like I'll tell her, I'll be like, home, like I'll tell her, I'll be like, home, like I'll tell her, I'll be like, "Okay, we got to cut that off." Because "Okay, we got to cut that off." Because "Okay, we got to cut that off." Because I heard that like when you're sleeping, I heard that like when you're sleeping, I heard that like when you're sleeping, even if the TV's on, it's like doing even if the TV's on, it's like doing even if the TV's on, it's like doing something to your brain and all that. something to your brain and all that. something to your brain and all that. So, you got to see just last night, I So, you got to see just last night, I So, you got to see just last night, I woke up in the middle of night, like, woke up in the middle of night, like, woke up in the middle of night, like, "Cut that damn TV, right?" But the sleep "Cut that damn TV, right?" But the sleep "Cut that damn TV, right?" But the sleep thing is so important, and I tell you thing is so important, and I tell you thing is so important, and I tell you this, um, with Aura, which has been this, um, with Aura, which has been this, um, with Aura, which has been amazing because amazing because amazing because >> you can see what affects it. >> you can see what affects it. >> you can see what affects it. >> You can see what it affects you. tells >> You can see what it affects you. tells >> You can see what it affects you. tells you your deep sleep, tells you all of you your deep sleep, tells you all of you your deep sleep, tells you all of these different types of things. And so, these different types of things. And so, these different types of things. And so, we had a playoff game 2021, uh we were we had a playoff game 2021, uh we were we had a playoff game 2021, uh we were playing against um the Clippers, playing against um the Clippers, playing against um the Clippers, ironically, when I was with Phoenix, and ironically, when I was with Phoenix, and ironically, when I was with Phoenix, and this was like game six, the game that this was like game six, the game that this was like game six, the game that could take us to the NBA finals. could take us to the NBA finals. could take us to the NBA finals. >> And the funniest thing about Aura is I I >> And the funniest thing about Aura is I I >> And the funniest thing about Aura is I I mean, I would be on the on the bus mean, I would be on the on the bus mean, I would be on the on the bus headed to a game and it'll say like, headed to a game and it'll say like, headed to a game and it'll say like, "You should be winding down right now." "You should be winding down right now." "You should be winding down right now." And I'm like, "Wing down? I'm winding And I'm like, "Wing down? I'm winding And I'm like, "Wing down? I'm winding up. I got to get up. I got 30 points. I up. I got to get up. I got 30 points. I up. I got to get up. I got 30 points. I got I got this game going on. got I got this game going on. got I got this game going on. >> But one of the best games I ever I ever >> But one of the best games I ever I ever >> But one of the best games I ever I ever played in my uh career. played in my uh career. played in my uh career. >> Uh I woke up that morning and you know >> Uh I woke up that morning and you know >> Uh I woke up that morning and you know like when you get a good night's rest, like when you get a good night's rest, like when you get a good night's rest, it'll tell you it'll give you a score it'll tell you it'll give you a score it'll tell you it'll give you a score and it'll usually give you a message. and it'll usually give you a message. and it'll usually give you a message. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Mine that morning said, "Bring it on. >> Mine that morning said, "Bring it on. >> Mine that morning said, "Bring it on. >> Bring it on." >> Bring it on." >> Bring it on." >> I never forget it. It said, "Bring it >> I never forget it. It said, "Bring it >> I never forget it. It said, "Bring it on." My aura ring told me uh that when I on." My aura ring told me uh that when I on." My aura ring told me uh that when I was about to have co was about to have co was about to have co >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I missed I missed two games in the >> Yeah. I missed I missed two games in the >> Yeah. I missed I missed two games in the playoff series because that was the year playoff series because that was the year playoff series because that was the year that COVID was going on. But my oral that COVID was going on. But my oral that COVID was going on. But my oral ring was was telling me that my uh body ring was was telling me that my uh body ring was was telling me that my uh body temperature was elevated and all that. temperature was elevated and all that. temperature was elevated and all that. Sleep Sleep Sleep >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> is is everything. And you >> is is everything. And you >> is is everything. And you >> in my profession, you also have to be >> in my profession, you also have to be >> in my profession, you also have to be able to function on able to function on able to function on >> little sleep. >> little sleep. >> little sleep. >> Little sleep. >> Little sleep. >> Little sleep. >> Kind of like a doctor. >> Kind of like a doctor. >> Kind of like a doctor. >> Exactly. Exact. No, seriously. And I >> Exactly. Exact. No, seriously. And I >> Exactly. Exact. No, seriously. And I know pretty high functioning people that know pretty high functioning people that know pretty high functioning people that don't always get a whole lot of sleep. don't always get a whole lot of sleep. don't always get a whole lot of sleep. And I've never been I don't eight nine And I've never been I don't eight nine And I've never been I don't eight nine hours. Who doing that? I I That's not hours. Who doing that? I I That's not hours. Who doing that? I I That's not me. I'm not going to lie. me. I'm not going to lie. me. I'm not going to lie. >> I try. But you when you do, you you take >> I try. But you when you do, you you take >> I try. But you when you do, you you take the time to really do it. And And you the time to really do it. And And you the time to really do it. And And you see the difference in like when you see the difference in like when you see the difference in like when you bring it on, when you had a good score, bring it on, when you had a good score, bring it on, when you had a good score, you got 41 points. you got 41 points. you got 41 points. >> Yes. And I believe in napping. >> Yes. And I believe in napping. >> Yes. And I believe in napping. >> Napping. All right. That's that's the >> Napping. All right. That's that's the >> Napping. All right. That's that's the trick, folks. Nap if you can, when you trick, folks. Nap if you can, when you trick, folks. Nap if you can, when you can. can. can. >> Yeah. you you do a lot of sort of >> Yeah. you you do a lot of sort of >> Yeah. you you do a lot of sort of nonprofit work too and food access and nonprofit work too and food access and nonprofit work too and food access and try to help people try to help people try to help people >> and maybe share a little bit about that >> and maybe share a little bit about that >> and maybe share a little bit about that cuz I think it's it's you know you cuz I think it's it's you know you cuz I think it's it's you know you you're trying to give back in a way to you're trying to give back in a way to you're trying to give back in a way to help empower people around their health. help empower people around their health. help empower people around their health. always trying to give back to empower always trying to give back to empower always trying to give back to empower people, but also a lot of things that people, but also a lot of things that people, but also a lot of things that our foundation do, we we start with our foundation do, we we start with our foundation do, we we start with kids, right? We start with kids because kids, right? We start with kids because kids, right? We start with kids because um kids um um kids um um kids um they're they're they're very open to learning, very open to learning, very open to learning, >> right? They're very open to learning. If >> right? They're very open to learning. If >> right? They're very open to learning. If you can intr introduce things to kids, you can intr introduce things to kids, you can intr introduce things to kids, sometimes people don't realize, but kids sometimes people don't realize, but kids sometimes people don't realize, but kids are teaching their parents things. Even are teaching their parents things. Even are teaching their parents things. Even think about technology, social media and think about technology, social media and think about technology, social media and all that stuff like kids are teaching all that stuff like kids are teaching all that stuff like kids are teaching their parents. So if you can teach kids their parents. So if you can teach kids their parents. So if you can teach kids different uh eating habits or different different uh eating habits or different different uh eating habits or different things like that which is already things like that which is already things like that which is already changing right as far as like snacks or changing right as far as like snacks or changing right as far as like snacks or whatnot. So uh my snack company good whatnot. So uh my snack company good whatnot. So uh my snack company good eating right like the the whole purpose eating right like the the whole purpose eating right like the the whole purpose of that was to lead with taste and of that was to lead with taste and of that was to lead with taste and obviously but obviously but obviously but >> there are clean ingredients. >> there are clean ingredients. >> there are clean ingredients. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Right. So if you can start with that >> Right. So if you can start with that >> Right. So if you can start with that because obviously food like breakfast, because obviously food like breakfast, because obviously food like breakfast, lunch and dinner or whatever it's hard lunch and dinner or whatever it's hard lunch and dinner or whatever it's hard to change that aspect but people in to change that aspect but people in to change that aspect but people in general like if we were sitting here general like if we were sitting here general like if we were sitting here talking I should have brought the snacks talking I should have brought the snacks talking I should have brought the snacks anyway but people just find themselves anyway but people just find themselves anyway but people just find themselves snacking snacking snacking >> right. So when we talked about budgeting >> right. So when we talked about budgeting >> right. So when we talked about budgeting >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, if you can at least enjoy the >> Right. So, if you can at least enjoy the >> Right. So, if you can at least enjoy the snacks that you eat and know that you snacks that you eat and know that you snacks that you eat and know that you don't have all these different don't have all these different don't have all these different >> crap in them, >> crap in them, >> crap in them, >> crap in them, that was the whole point >> crap in them, that was the whole point >> crap in them, that was the whole point of me starting my snack company because of me starting my snack company because of me starting my snack company because >> like I said, I'm a snacker, right? >> like I said, I'm a snacker, right? >> like I said, I'm a snacker, right? >> I I like food. And so, I wanted to make >> I I like food. And so, I wanted to make >> I I like food. And so, I wanted to make sure that at least when you're doing sure that at least when you're doing sure that at least when you're doing that, you're not feeling guilty and that, you're not feeling guilty and that, you're not feeling guilty and feeling bad that you're putting junk in feeling bad that you're putting junk in feeling bad that you're putting junk in your your your >> Yeah, I saw some of those uh cook >> Yeah, I saw some of those uh cook >> Yeah, I saw some of those uh cook recipes. They were kind of interesting. recipes. They were kind of interesting. recipes. They were kind of interesting. The ingredients were pretty clean, but The ingredients were pretty clean, but The ingredients were pretty clean, but they were like, you'd think they they were like, you'd think they they were like, you'd think they wouldn't be, right? Like ragers or like wouldn't be, right? Like ragers or like wouldn't be, right? Like ragers or like Cookies and cream popcorn. Cookies and cream popcorn. Cookies and cream popcorn. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. And that's because >> Exactly. And that's because >> Exactly. And that's because >> I was like, "Wait a minute, Chris. Wait >> I was like, "Wait a minute, Chris. Wait >> I was like, "Wait a minute, Chris. Wait a minute." And I checked it out. I was a minute." And I checked it out. I was a minute." And I checked it out. I was like, "All right." like, "All right." like, "All right." >> Because, right, like um I mean, if I >> Because, right, like um I mean, if I >> Because, right, like um I mean, if I said like these kids are still eating said like these kids are still eating said like these kids are still eating Doritos and Cheetos and stuff like that Doritos and Cheetos and stuff like that Doritos and Cheetos and stuff like that every day, you know what I mean? Like, every day, you know what I mean? Like, every day, you know what I mean? Like, why not have something that um that that why not have something that um that that why not have something that um that that tastes good but have better ingredients tastes good but have better ingredients tastes good but have better ingredients than that? than that? than that? >> And our kids liking it? >> And our kids liking it? >> And our kids liking it? >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> That's amazing. Well, is coffee good or >> That's amazing. Well, is coffee good or >> That's amazing. Well, is coffee good or bad for me? This is a question I get bad for me? This is a question I get bad for me? This is a question I get asked all the time. And here's the asked all the time. And here's the asked all the time. And here's the truth. Coffee isn't inherently bad. It's truth. Coffee isn't inherently bad. It's truth. Coffee isn't inherently bad. 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Um, but the thing that I'm most excited but the thing that I'm most excited but the thing that I'm most excited about about about >> is being present, >> is being present, >> is being present, >> right, >> right, >> right, >> with your family. >> with your family. >> with your family. >> Exactly. Being present for my family, >> Exactly. Being present for my family, >> Exactly. Being present for my family, even for my friends, even for my friends, even for my friends, >> right? Like I'm so grateful for the life >> right? Like I'm so grateful for the life >> right? Like I'm so grateful for the life that I've been able to enjoy and play that I've been able to enjoy and play that I've been able to enjoy and play for all of these years, but for all of these years, but for all of these years, but >> I haven't been able to show up um for >> I haven't been able to show up um for >> I haven't been able to show up um for friends, for my family, for friends, for my family, for friends, for my family, for >> them for a very very long time. So, I'm >> them for a very very long time. So, I'm >> them for a very very long time. So, I'm I'm really excited about that. I'm really excited about that. I'm really excited about that. >> And that's a hard thing. You know, you >> And that's a hard thing. You know, you >> And that's a hard thing. You know, you you know, success always comes with a you know, success always comes with a you know, success always comes with a price, right? You got you've got to work price, right? You got you've got to work price, right? You got you've got to work hard. You got to do a lot. And you know, hard. You got to do a lot. And you know, hard. You got to do a lot. And you know, your job entails a lot of travel, which your job entails a lot of travel, which your job entails a lot of travel, which means being away from your family. And means being away from your family. And means being away from your family. And that's that's got to be one of the that's that's got to be one of the that's that's got to be one of the hardest parts. and people realize that hardest parts. and people realize that hardest parts. and people realize that but it's so much gratitude. It's been an but it's so much gratitude. It's been an but it's so much gratitude. It's been an unbelievable journey and my family, unbelievable journey and my family, unbelievable journey and my family, everybody's been able to go on this ride everybody's been able to go on this ride everybody's been able to go on this ride with me. But um with me. But um with me. But um >> now uh you know it's time to do >> now uh you know it's time to do >> now uh you know it's time to do something different. something different. something different. >> One of the things I want to touch back >> One of the things I want to touch back >> One of the things I want to touch back on what you said which I think is really on what you said which I think is really on what you said which I think is really important is is the power of community important is is the power of community important is is the power of community and and doing things together whether and and doing things together whether and and doing things together whether it's your teammates, whether it's with it's your teammates, whether it's with it's your teammates, whether it's with your family. you know, you you kind of your family. you know, you you kind of your family. you know, you you kind of were chatting on another podcast about were chatting on another podcast about were chatting on another podcast about this group of friends you had for since this group of friends you had for since this group of friends you had for since you were a kid and you have a group chat you were a kid and you have a group chat you were a kid and you have a group chat and yeah, and they know you not as Chris and yeah, and they know you not as Chris and yeah, and they know you not as Chris Paul the NBA player, but like just this Paul the NBA player, but like just this Paul the NBA player, but like just this dude who's like, dude who's like, dude who's like, >> you know, you know, to to speak on that, >> you know, you know, to to speak on that, >> you know, you know, to to speak on that, my my homies, my fellas group chat back my my homies, my fellas group chat back my my homies, my fellas group chat back home. Uh my boy John, I think it was home. Uh my boy John, I think it was home. Uh my boy John, I think it was John John or Pety probably like a week John John or Pety probably like a week John John or Pety probably like a week ago, which I need to follow up with them ago, which I need to follow up with them ago, which I need to follow up with them because we talked about it, but then because we talked about it, but then because we talked about it, but then nobody put it in motion. We said we was nobody put it in motion. We said we was nobody put it in motion. We said we was going to do something for like a month. going to do something for like a month. going to do something for like a month. We was going to make a month challenge We was going to make a month challenge We was going to make a month challenge of uh but because everybody's body type of uh but because everybody's body type of uh but because everybody's body type is different, we was going to do like a is different, we was going to do like a is different, we was going to do like a body fat loss or something like that, body fat loss or something like that, body fat loss or something like that, right? And right? And right? And >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And we said we was going to do that. Uh >> And we said we was going to do that. Uh >> And we said we was going to do that. Uh but nobody followed up which just I need but nobody followed up which just I need but nobody followed up which just I need to follow up. to follow up. to follow up. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because that's that's fun to do because >> Because that's that's fun to do because >> Because that's that's fun to do because each other accountable. Yeah. each other accountable. Yeah. each other accountable. Yeah. >> It keeps everybody accountable. And my >> It keeps everybody accountable. And my >> It keeps everybody accountable. And my homies, I love y'all to death, but homies, I love y'all to death, but homies, I love y'all to death, but everybody definitely got different body everybody definitely got different body everybody definitely got different body types. Yeah. Well, you know, as you get types. Yeah. Well, you know, as you get types. Yeah. Well, you know, as you get older, it's like you don't pay older, it's like you don't pay older, it's like you don't pay attention. attention. attention. >> No, no, no, no. Very different body >> No, no, no, no. Very different body >> No, no, no, no. Very different body type. And everybody makes sure they tell type. And everybody makes sure they tell type. And everybody makes sure they tell each other in the chat just about every each other in the chat just about every each other in the chat just about every other day. But other day. But other day. But >> we can't just do body fat because a >> we can't just do body fat because a >> we can't just do body fat because a couple of them they got a lot to lose. couple of them they got a lot to lose. couple of them they got a lot to lose. They got a lot to lose. I'm excited They got a lot to lose. I'm excited They got a lot to lose. I'm excited about doing this challenge with them about doing this challenge with them about doing this challenge with them because u we said we was going to do and because u we said we was going to do and because u we said we was going to do and I don't know that you might know how to I don't know that you might know how to I don't know that you might know how to like how do we make it competitive for like how do we make it competitive for like how do we make it competitive for all of us if we all got You just say the all of us if we all got You just say the all of us if we all got You just say the percent like the percent amount of But percent like the percent amount of But percent like the percent amount of But the thing is you're not going to lose a the thing is you're not going to lose a the thing is you're not going to lose a lot cuz you're you're going to win the lot cuz you're you're going to win the lot cuz you're you're going to win the contest cuz you're already got to figure contest cuz you're already got to figure contest cuz you're already got to figure out how to make it competitive now. They out how to make it competitive now. They out how to make it competitive now. They can't just win just cuz they can't just win just cuz they can't just win just cuz they >> No, no, no, no. Uhuh. My cousin Rod, my >> No, no, no, no. Uhuh. My cousin Rod, my >> No, no, no, no. Uhuh. My cousin Rod, my cousin suit well suit and all. But cousin suit well suit and all. But cousin suit well suit and all. But >> yeah, you can figure that out cuz it's >> yeah, you can figure that out cuz it's >> yeah, you can figure that out cuz it's percent, you know, of change, right? percent, you know, of change, right? percent, you know, of change, right? That matters like how where you start That matters like how where you start That matters like how where you start like how much can you improve. like how much can you improve. like how much can you improve. >> Uh but if you're already really good, >> Uh but if you're already really good, >> Uh but if you're already really good, it's hard to get that extra edge, right? it's hard to get that extra edge, right? it's hard to get that extra edge, right? if you like get that extra 0.1 second on if you like get that extra 0.1 second on if you like get that extra 0.1 second on 100 yard dash is not easy. 100 yard dash is not easy. 100 yard dash is not easy. >> Yeah, we going we going to figure it out >> Yeah, we going we going to figure it out >> Yeah, we going we going to figure it out cuz that's going to be a fun competition cuz that's going to be a fun competition cuz that's going to be a fun competition to do with them. to do with them. to do with them. >> Yeah. Well, actually I created a program >> Yeah. Well, actually I created a program >> Yeah. Well, actually I created a program that's we do a group program. We call it that's we do a group program. We call it that's we do a group program. We call it the 10day detox, but you can do it for a the 10day detox, but you can do it for a the 10day detox, but you can do it for a month and it essentially it's it's u month and it essentially it's it's u month and it essentially it's it's u where people eat an anti-inflammatory where people eat an anti-inflammatory where people eat an anti-inflammatory diet for a month. diet for a month. diet for a month. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And they get reset and all their numbers >> And they get reset and all their numbers >> And they get reset and all their numbers get better. You can do function before get better. You can do function before get better. You can do function before and after and you can compete on you can and after and you can compete on you can and after and you can compete on you can even compete on that. even compete on that. even compete on that. >> Well, we I'm going to put that in the >> Well, we I'm going to put that in the >> Well, we I'm going to put that in the chat, dude. I'm going to put that chat, dude. I'm going to put that chat, dude. I'm going to put that function $365. I'm put I'm going to put function $365. I'm put I'm going to put function $365. I'm put I'm going to put it in the chat because that's actually it in the chat because that's actually it in the chat because that's actually been some of the the coolest days for been some of the the coolest days for been some of the the coolest days for me, right? Like my homies that I'm me, right? Like my homies that I'm me, right? Like my homies that I'm talking about, my fellas group chat, I talking about, my fellas group chat, I talking about, my fellas group chat, I never get to see them, never get to see them, never get to see them, >> right? We usually go on a trip once >> right? We usually go on a trip once >> right? We usually go on a trip once every summer, usually every season. I every summer, usually every season. I every summer, usually every season. I try to bring them out to a game, but try to bring them out to a game, but try to bring them out to a game, but they have lives. They have things going they have lives. They have things going they have lives. They have things going on. But it'd be so dope when uh one of on. But it'd be so dope when uh one of on. But it'd be so dope when uh one of the guys or something put in the chat or the guys or something put in the chat or the guys or something put in the chat or we all get on FaceTime and we look at I we all get on FaceTime and we look at I we all get on FaceTime and we look at I remember we looked at my cousin Rod one remember we looked at my cousin Rod one remember we looked at my cousin Rod one time. when we was all on FaceTime and time. when we was all on FaceTime and time. when we was all on FaceTime and his face had just looked so different. his face had just looked so different. his face had just looked so different. We was like, "Yo, what you got going on We was like, "Yo, what you got going on We was like, "Yo, what you got going on over there?" He was like, "Man, I've over there?" He was like, "Man, I've over there?" He was like, "Man, I've been basically doing like a detox or been basically doing like a detox or been basically doing like a detox or something like that." So, something like that." So, something like that." So, >> to have real friends that you can >> to have real friends that you can >> to have real friends that you can encourage to do things like that because encourage to do things like that because encourage to do things like that because >> these are my like real friends since we >> these are my like real friends since we >> these are my like real friends since we were since we were younger and some of were since we were younger and some of were since we were younger and some of them have had different health issues. them have had different health issues. them have had different health issues. And when you find out these guys like And when you find out these guys like And when you find out these guys like they in the hospital, you're like, they in the hospital, you're like, they in the hospital, you're like, "What?" "What?" "What?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, they in the hospital. >> You know, they in the hospital. >> You know, they in the hospital. >> Don't take care of yourself. if it >> Don't take care of yourself. if it >> Don't take care of yourself. if it catches up fast. catches up fast. catches up fast. >> Yeah. So, I'm I'm I'm going to >> Yeah. So, I'm I'm I'm going to >> Yeah. So, I'm I'm I'm going to definitely put that in the group chat. definitely put that in the group chat. definitely put that in the group chat. >> So, just everybody got to remember it's >> So, just everybody got to remember it's >> So, just everybody got to remember it's really about, you know, doing it really about, you know, doing it really about, you know, doing it together, right? together, right? together, right? >> Health and and enjoying life and >> Health and and enjoying life and >> Health and and enjoying life and enjoying experiences. And the only way enjoying experiences. And the only way enjoying experiences. And the only way we get a chance to do that is with our we get a chance to do that is with our we get a chance to do that is with our health. health. health. >> Last question is Chris, you're looking >> Last question is Chris, you're looking >> Last question is Chris, you're looking back to your 22-y old self um and you're back to your 22-y old self um and you're back to your 22-y old self um and you're giving him some advice. What would you giving him some advice. What would you giving him some advice. What would you what would you advise him to do? what would you advise him to do? what would you advise him to do? >> I'm looking back at my 22-year-old self. >> I'm looking back at my 22-year-old self. >> I'm looking back at my 22-year-old self. >> Health advice. >> Health advice. >> Health advice. >> You know what? I honestly I probably >> You know what? I honestly I probably >> You know what? I honestly I probably wouldn't have did anything wouldn't have did anything wouldn't have did anything that different. Right. And I say that that different. Right. And I say that that different. Right. And I say that because I've learned because I've learned because I've learned >> crispy creams and McGriddles. >> crispy creams and McGriddles. >> crispy creams and McGriddles. >> Yeah. Yeah. I had to. I had to. Right. I >> Yeah. Yeah. I had to. I had to. Right. I >> Yeah. Yeah. I had to. I had to. Right. I had to. And had to. And had to. And >> nothing against it or whatnot, but I >> nothing against it or whatnot, but I >> nothing against it or whatnot, but I I've I've met like kids that have never I've I've met like kids that have never I've I've met like kids that have never had a cheeseburger or never had a Well, had a cheeseburger or never had a Well, had a cheeseburger or never had a Well, not a cheeseburger, but hamburger cuz I not a cheeseburger, but hamburger cuz I not a cheeseburger, but hamburger cuz I don't like cheese anyway. but they've don't like cheese anyway. but they've don't like cheese anyway. but they've never even experienced Yeah. any of never even experienced Yeah. any of never even experienced Yeah. any of those things, right? So, the things that those things, right? So, the things that those things, right? So, the things that I've gotten a chance to I've gotten a chance to I've gotten a chance to >> to eat and understand like I learn I >> to eat and understand like I learn I >> to eat and understand like I learn I learned I learned a lot. 22 where was learned I learned a lot. 22 where was learned I learned a lot. 22 where was it? I was still playing in New Orleans it? I was still playing in New Orleans it? I was still playing in New Orleans at the time. at the time. at the time. >> Maybe maybe not as Man, my chef used to >> Maybe maybe not as Man, my chef used to >> Maybe maybe not as Man, my chef used to make this crispy cream bread pudding. make this crispy cream bread pudding. make this crispy cream bread pudding. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. >> Whoa. So, that's why I'm saying I can't say So, that's why I'm saying I can't say So, that's why I'm saying I can't say that I wouldn't that I wouldn't that I wouldn't >> put >> put >> put Definitely on the Dr. Diamond diet. Definitely on the Dr. Diamond diet. Definitely on the Dr. Diamond diet. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But uh probably at >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But uh probably at >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But uh probably at that age what I what I would have done that age what I what I would have done that age what I what I would have done honestly if I could do anything honestly if I could do anything honestly if I could do anything different is not as much sugar. different is not as much sugar. different is not as much sugar. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I didn't know >> Cuz I didn't know >> Cuz I didn't know >> sugar. Yeah. Sugar is most inflammation >> sugar. Yeah. Sugar is most inflammation >> sugar. Yeah. Sugar is most inflammation and and and >> everything that I had then, right? Like >> everything that I had then, right? Like >> everything that I had then, right? Like I I was man to think about what I would I I was man to think about what I would I I was man to think about what I would have like for dinner, right? Like I have like for dinner, right? Like I have like for dinner, right? Like I would have you know like fried chicken, would have you know like fried chicken, would have you know like fried chicken, sweet tea sweet tea sweet tea um finished with that uh crispy cream um finished with that uh crispy cream um finished with that uh crispy cream bread pudding. Wow. bread pudding. Wow. bread pudding. Wow. >> And then while I was chilling, watching >> And then while I was chilling, watching >> And then while I was chilling, watching games at night, I go in there and get me games at night, I go in there and get me games at night, I go in there and get me a honey bun. a honey bun. a honey bun. >> You know what I mean? Probably double >> You know what I mean? Probably double >> You know what I mean? Probably double back, go get me a oatmeal. back, go get me a oatmeal. back, go get me a oatmeal. >> Thank god you were running up and down >> Thank god you were running up and down >> Thank god you were running up and down the court all day. You would have been the court all day. You would have been the court all day. You would have been two 300 lb. two 300 lb. two 300 lb. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Amazing. Well, Chris, thanks for being >> Amazing. Well, Chris, thanks for being >> Amazing. Well, Chris, thanks for being an example for how to take care of an example for how to take care of an example for how to take care of yourself, how to give back to the world, yourself, how to give back to the world, yourself, how to give back to the world, and taking care of the players and, you and taking care of the players and, you and taking care of the players and, you know, telling the world about, you know, know, telling the world about, you know, know, telling the world about, you know, why it's important for everybody to take why it's important for everybody to take why it's important for everybody to take care of their health. So, thank you so care of their health. So, thank you so care of their health. So, thank you so much. much. much. >> Thank you. If you loved that last video, >> Thank you. If you loved that last video, >> Thank you. If you loved that last video, you're going to love the next one. Check you're going to love the next one. 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